[12:16] <_Daisuke_Ido_> eagles0513875: honestly, i'm not too sure
[12:16] <eagles0513875> anyone know whats so great bout fx processor line
[12:16] <SolidSource> FX line is supposed to be optimized for entertainment
[12:17] <eagles0513875> good for gaming and video rendering
[12:17] <SolidSource> similar to intels VIIV
[12:17] <Cutler_> Hello all
[12:17] <delight> fx is good for burning a bucket of electricity .. thats what i heared of
[12:17] <_Daisuke_Ido_> so the equivalent of a P4?
[12:17] <SolidSource> but just as AMD came out with the first dual core...they already have the first quad core out
[12:17] <delight> on that topic that little Mac mini is running with about 25 Watts (i read that somewhere)
[12:18] <eagles0513875> lol wasnt intel the first with those for servers
[12:18] <_Daisuke_Ido_> dual processors, not dual cores
[12:18] <_Daisuke_Ido_> (i... think.)
[12:18] <eagles0513875> well intel has quad core processors
[12:18] <_Daisuke_Ido_> i know i've seen dual processor setups with xeons
[12:18] <eagles0513875> and i also saw an article where intel developed a processor with 80 cores
[12:18] <eagles0513875> for high end research machines
[12:20] <delight> eagles0513875: big companies are using clusters with opterons mostly right now
[12:20] <eagles0513875> really
[12:20] <delight> all big new installations i heared of are using opterons
[12:20] <eagles0513875> r there any 939 opterons out there
[12:20] <SolidSource> all the same both intel and amd have their benefits...AMD is better on power/performance management, where as intel will maintain performance, but at a high cost in both intial and over time
[12:20] <delight> like for example ebay is big into opteron/solaris/jave ee
[12:21] <delight> or any other new installation on acadamic or so
[12:21] <delight> they all use opterons lately
[12:21] <eagles0513875> solaris though i tried but it way to intensive processor wise and ram wise
[12:21] <eagles0513875> not to mention desktop for solaris suxs
[12:21] <eagles0513875> r there any 939 opterons
[12:22] <SolidSource> what we have to do is wait and see what AMD is going to do with its aquisation of ATI
[12:22] <eagles0513875> ya
[12:23] <SolidSource> though I prefer Nvidia over ATI
[12:23] <eagles0513875> same here
[12:23] <eagles0513875> especially when it comes to linux
[12:23] <eagles0513875> i hope that ati improves their linux support
[12:24] <SolidSource> they will most likely now that AMD has them, since AMD is more the chosen processor for linux
[12:24] <eagles0513875> sweet
[12:25] <eagles0513875> that would make my life so much easier to get this open gl stuff to work right
[12:26] <SolidSource> now software with more features would be nice....cause trying to get thunderbird to shrink to tray is not going well
[12:30] <Alarm>  hello, is there any way to create a bar at the top of my screen , where i can add shortcuts and that will be invisible. of course i want only this one to be invisible. i added a panel, but when i make the transparency, the configuration counts also for the main bar, and i dont want that. is there any way ?
[12:31] <SolidSource> Alarm: you can speciallize each bar separately
[12:31] <muuhBDXi> some one is flooding my modem what can i do about it ?
[12:31] <Alarm> SolidSource,  how ?
[12:31] <Alarm> SolidSource,  if i knew i wouldnt ask :)
[12:32] <SolidSource> Alarm: setting one up now so I can give better directions
[12:33] <Alarm> SolidSource,  i did manage to add a panel, but when making it transparent , the bottom main taskbar becomes also transparent. something that i dont want
[12:33] <Alarm> and cant find a dock bar to work on the upper place
[12:33] <muuhBDXi> (:>	some one is flooding my modem what can i do about it ?
[12:33] <Alarm> muuhBDXi,  install a firewall
[12:34] <muuhBDXi> how do i install a firewall on a modem ?
[12:34] <yettenet> How can I install a .deb package?
[12:34] <Alarm> u install a firewall on ur kubuntu system
[12:34] <muuhBDXi> the modem is getin flooded
[12:34] <yettenet> Ah, I see
[12:34] <muuhBDXi> even with the computer off
[12:34] <jake_> guys ive checked "ubuntu desktop" in synapting knowing hat i can use ubuntu instead of kubuntu. but when i try to boot to genome only the brown background appears
[12:35] <neptunepink> muuhBDXi: if you restart it, will the ip change?
[12:35] <Alarm> yettenet,  dpkg -i <debfile name>
[12:35] <jake_> help guys pleaese
[12:35] <muuhBDXi> it changes some times i guess
[12:35] <muuhBDXi> but the flood keeps going
[12:35] <Alarm> muuhBDXi, if u close ur computer the modem will also close, if its a usb or a pci one .
[12:36] <Alarm> unless u got an old serial usb
[12:36] <muuhBDXi> has soon has i start the modem the led starts to flash
[12:36] <SolidSource> Alarm: hmm I guess I was thinking something else... but I quess you try something like superkaramba
[12:36] <Alarm> SolidSource,  superkaramba doesnt do what i want to
[12:36] <muuhBDXi> it a cable modem
[12:36] <sulaiman> why is "KDevelop" greyd out in the Add/Remove Programs ??
[12:36] <muuhBDXi> uses ethernet
[12:36] <Alarm> router maybe ?
[12:36] <Alarm> modem-router
[12:36] <scribz> how do you get konsole to recognise alt-right for irssi
[12:36] <muuhBDXi> just modem
[12:37] <Alarm> a modem doesnt connect to a computer via ethernet, sorry
[12:37] <Alarm> i dont know what u are talking about
[12:37] <muuhBDXi> the modem lights are always flashing even if everthing else is off
[12:37] <jake_> guys?
[12:37] <Alarm> first i think u must find out what kind of device you got.
[12:37] <igorjr> so, does the connection go down, or are you just worried about the flashing lights?
[12:38] <muuhBDXi> both
[12:38] <SolidSource> Alarm: well you could just hide the program bar...but doesn't seem to do it the way I was thinking
[12:38] <Alarm> muuhBDXi,  install gkrellm , and check the traffic as also the connections opened
[12:38] <muuhBDXi> i worried the modem is being used buy some pedofiles to watch dfirty pics
[12:38] <Alarm> if u dont see any activity, then u shouldnt worry
[12:39] <muuhBDXi> the trafic is only going on in the modem
[12:39] <muuhBDXi> not in the os ethernet card
[12:39] <Alarm> lastly, how do u know u are being attacked with icmps or udps from outside ? flashing lights shows an active modem. it would be bad if they wouldnt flash
[12:39] <Alarm> install a traffic monitor to see what is happening
[12:40] <Alarm> so u will know from which ips u get 'hit' and if you get
[12:40] <muuhBDXi> the trafic isnt coming to the computer
[12:40] <muuhBDXi> its just on the modem and its geting flooded
[12:40] <jake_> bonbonthejon:ive checked "ubuntu desktop" in synapting knowing hat i can use ubuntu instead of kubuntu. but when i try to boot to genome only the brown background appears
[12:40] <Alarm> muuhBDXi,  modem=ur computer
[12:41] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: with modems there is always some traffic coming and going, though yoiu may not see it...
[12:41] <mortici> how do i get udev to set certain perams for a device, like permissions?
[12:41] <Alarm> its not a router that has its own ip.
[12:41] <muuhBDXi> modem isnt on the computer is a stand alone device ataches to the computer thru a ethernet cable
[12:41] <bonbonthejon> jake_: where are you selecting gnome
[12:41] <Alarm> a modem just forwards the packages to ur computer
[12:41] <Alarm> muuhBDXi, what kind of modem is that
[12:41] <Alarm> model , brand
[12:41] <jake_> bonbonthejon: in the boot screen
[12:41] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: modem is a modem, they all work the same no matter how they connect to the computer
[12:42] <Alarm> why not checking the nat configuration ?
[12:42] <bonbonthejon> jake_: boot or kdm/gdm?
[12:42] <muuhBDXi> a cable modem is the same has a dialup modem ?
[12:42] <bonbonthejon> muuhBDXi: no
[12:42] <muuhBDXi> tell that to SolidSource
[12:43] <muuhBDXi> must be some RIAA/NSA atack
[12:43] <Alarm> log into your modem and check the system or secutiry logs
[12:43] <Lord_Maynoth> thanks to everyone who helped me get ktorrent working
[12:43] <jake_> bonbonthejon: no its in the left side of the panel where your user name/ pass apears, "sessione type"
[12:44] <muuhBDXi> how do you login to your modem ?
[12:44] <Alarm> muuhBDXi,  read your manual
[12:44] <Alarm> i am not a wizard
[12:44] <muuhBDXi> theres no manual
[12:44] <Alarm> online manual
[12:44] <igorjr> google
[12:44] <Alarm> thats why u got google
[12:44] <bonbonthejon> muuhBDXi: is this a cable modem?
[12:44] <Alarm> bonbonthejon,  as much i understood yes
[12:45] <muuhBDXi> i said it was a cable modem twice allreddy
[12:45] <bonbonthejon> jake_: ask in #ubuntu for help getting gnome working
[12:45] <bonbonthejon> muuhBDXi: there is no logging in that you need to do
[12:46] <tarnold> so how do i get the libdcss or whats it called to get dvds or vid files....
[12:46] <muuhBDXi> could you rephrase that please ?
[12:46] <tarnold> what ever  you use to get DVD's or video files to work?
[12:47] <bonbonthejon> muuhBDXi: for a cable modem there is no user-name/password logginng in, the modem will get a signal from the ISP
[12:47] <muuhBDXi> this problem started after installing some torrents tool bar on firedox
[12:47] <muuhBDXi> firefox
[12:47] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: thats why...torrent bar is always updating
[12:47] <muuhBDXi> but ive desabled it along time ago
[12:48] <muuhBDXi> its not working anymore
[12:48] <tro> is there any way to get informational messages on all services starting during boot instead of the usplash screen?
[12:48] <tro> i uninstalled usplash 'cause it was causing problems anyway, but now i'm just staring at a dark screen while kubuntu loads
[12:48] <muuhBDXi> must be some RIAA/NSA atack
[12:49] <bonbonthejon> tro: alt-f1?
[12:49] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: you are experiancing a performance drop right?
[12:49] <muuhBDXi> yes
[12:49] <muuhBDXi> lagg
[12:49] <duckdown> Hey all, question here :)  I am connecting a colo box, using ssh -X (X forwarding) from my laptop here in Kubuntu.  I can run things like 'firefox' and other GUI/X11 executables just fine, but when I do a 'startx' and try to get into a WM, it appears to be running and no (EE) errors show up, but my WM window never pops open.  When I CTRL+C it says killing connection to 0:0 so it THINKS its working.  What can I do?
[12:50] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: ok, have you reset the modem yet?
[12:50] <muuhBDXi> sometimes pages dont load at 1st try
[12:50] <tro> bonbonthejon: during boot? must've been too obvious to try :p can i have that tty displayed by default though?
[12:50] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: and are you in the US?
[12:51] <muuhBDXi> i have pressed the rset thing on its back yes
[12:51] <muuhBDXi> no
[12:51] <muuhBDXi> im in the EU
[12:51] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: no, press reset, unplug it while holding reset, and then plugin
[12:51] <bonbonthejon> muuhBDXi: try unplugging the cable modem for 10 sec, then plug back in
[12:52] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: may have to re-insert your login info if its required
[12:52] <bonbonthejon> tro: pressing alt-f1 during boot gets rid of usplash and displays the normal boot up stes
[12:52] <muuhBDXi> ive turned it off for a long time
[12:52] <muuhBDXi> you recon its my ISP flooding me ?
[12:53] <muuhBDXi> how could the bitorrent duds find my modem everytime ?
[12:53] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: because bittorrent publishes your IP
[12:54] <muuhBDXi> the ip has chnaged
[12:54] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: if its cable, it technically shouldn't change
[12:54] <muuhBDXi> why not ?
[12:55] <bonbonthejon> it shouldnt change VERY OFTEN
[12:55] <muuhBDXi> it changes evry once in a wile
[12:55] <bonbonthejon> same idea
[12:55] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: well most cable ISPs use static IPs...that way what ever you do is traced back to you and you alone
[12:56] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: but yes it can change, but rarely...there is one other option though ...change the DNS
[12:56] <muuhBDXi> SolidSource: so is that the way they use to protect my personal data ?
[12:57] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: router and computer firewall....always should have a router, even if you only have 1 computer
[12:57] <neptunepink> muuhBDXi: no, it's so that big brother can watch you easier
[12:58] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: but I'm betting your ISPs DNS is being flooded, when such thing happened to me, I changed DNS and got a boost in speed
[12:58] <muuhBDXi> how do i change it ?
[12:59] <muuhBDXi> isnt the other DNS being flooded too ?
[01:00] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: there are thousands of DNS servers out there...I don't even use my ISPs servers, I use Verizons
[01:00] <muuhBDXi> whats DNS got to do with this problem ?
[01:00] <muuhBDXi> shouldnt you use a DNS near to you ?
[01:01] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: not always
[01:01] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: DNS takes things like "www.google.com" and finds the corresponding IP for it
[01:01] <muuhBDXi> but the modem gets flooded even if the computer is turned off
[01:02] <muuhBDXi> so the modem must be geting the DNS on its owne
[01:02] <jake_> bonbonthejon: no response on #ubuntu :-) what do you think if i reinstall gnome?
[01:02] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: again, the lights should rarely ever stop...cause its keeping its connection
[01:02] <bonbonthejon> jake_: I've gone from ubuntu and added kubuntu, but not the other way around
[01:02] <muuhBDXi> the light used to flash a bit has it was registering and stop soon after
[01:03] <muuhBDXi> but now its alaways flashinf even with the computer off
[01:03] <jake_> bonbonthejon: what did you do?
[01:04] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: which light is it though? should be atleast 1 light for connection and 1 for traffic
[01:04] <muuhBDXi> it flashes the Rx on the cale side and the Tx on the lan side
[01:04] <bonbonthejon> jake_: install kubuntu_desktop, i think is the package, just like ubuntu_desktop, which you tried
[01:04] <Jucato> kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop
[01:04] <muuhBDXi> cale = cable
[01:05] <muuhBDXi> what ever that Rx Tx means !?
[01:05] <bonbonthejon> muuhBDXi: Rx=receive, Tx=transmit
[01:06] <muuhBDXi> how do i fix it ?
[01:06] <jake_> yes but, is ubuntu not compatible with my laptop?
[01:06] <bonbonthejon> jake_: why would it not be
[01:06] <muuhBDXi> so some one is spoofing my modem ?
[01:06] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: possibly
[01:07] <muuhBDXi> how do i fix it ?
[01:07] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: might want to change certian settings on the modem itself
[01:08] <muuhBDXi> should i pick up the soldring iron ?
[01:08] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: should be able to change them by going into firefox and entering your own IP
[01:08] <muuhBDXi> how do i change seting on the modem ?
[01:09] <muuhBDXi> SolidSource: is that a joke ?
[01:09] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: no, but it all depends on how the modem was designed
[01:09] <neptunepink> muuhBDXi: It's probably <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:09] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: yeah if its not your own IP than <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:09] <jake_> bonbonthejon: i dont know, because ive tried it the second time, first on my installation on ubuntu, now here again
[01:10] <muuhBDXi> ive read that you could telenet to the modem
[01:10] <neptunepink> muuhBDXi: use firefox :b
[01:10] <coreymon77> hi guys
[01:11] <coreymon77> my /home directory is on a LVM partition
[01:11] <coreymon77> something messed up
[01:11] <coreymon77> and now i cannot acces
[01:11] <coreymon77> it
[01:11] <muuhBDXi> how do i fix it ?
[01:12] <coreymon77> all i want it to be able to get a few files off of it, then ill reinstall kubuntu
[01:12] <coreymon77> how do i get the files
[01:12] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: are you in your modems settings page?
[01:13] <muuhBDXi> theres no modem seting page
[01:14] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: ok, set the DNS in system settings
[01:14] <muuhBDXi> the only why to connect to the modem is thru telnet and the modem has to be disconnected from the internet
[01:15] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: but before yoiu set the DNS, you need to find an DNS to use
[01:16] <CShadowRun> hmm, im trying to get the drivers for my raid drives
[01:16] <CShadowRun> the options for linux os's are Novell, Red Hat and SuSE
[01:16] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: openDNS.com is a good one
[01:17] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: if you go to that site, you can get the IPs you need
[01:18] <killermach> synaptic isn't finding cinelerra for ubuntu? what am I missing?
[01:19] <neoncode> Does Linux have a driver for the Intel High Definition Audio that's built into the nForce 680i chipset motherboards?
[01:20] <muuhBDXi> openDNS.com ?
[01:21] <muuhBDXi> is that a phising site ?
[01:21] <SolidSource> muuhBDXi: no its a DNS server
[01:21] <doudoo> hello
[01:21] <doudoo> adept dont want to install e17
[01:21] <CShadowRun> come on guys i need help here :P
[01:21] <doudoo> it said break
[01:22] <doudoo> can somedoby help
[01:22] <CShadowRun> trying to get the drivers for my RAID Controller, the only options are Novell, red hat, SuSE turbo and solaris
[01:22] <Lord_Maynoth> Is there a command like sudo that gives my account admin privileges without running the program as root?
[01:22] <CShadowRun> which should i choose?
[01:22] <jarn> How do I check the size of a folder?
[01:22] <BluesKaj> CShadowRun, you logon to a Kubuntu chat and ask about other OS's ... nervy
[01:23] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: sudo (or kdesu for graphical apsps)
[01:23] <muuhBDXi> The straight dope
[01:23] <muuhBDXi> Know what you're doing? Here are the addresses of the OpenDNS nameservers:
[01:23] <muuhBDXi> whats strait dope means ?
[01:23] <Lord_Maynoth> well when I use sudo it installs the application as root
[01:23] <CShadowRun> [BluesKaj-> you obviously failed to read the question, im trying to get my raid controller to work IN KUBUNTU
[01:23] <BluesKaj> no lies
[01:23] <Lord_Maynoth> is their anyway to make it install as my account instead of root?
[01:23] <CShadowRun> but the only driver download options are Novell, red hat, SuSE turbo and solaris (there is no ubuntu\debian download)
[01:24] <doudoo> adept says BREAK wen i wanna install e17... how can I repear plz??
[01:24] <BluesKaj> sorry, guess i should have scrolled up
[01:24] <CShadowRun> lol :P
[01:24] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: installing what exactly? and how?
[01:24] <CShadowRun> so, what should i do?
[01:24] <Lord_Maynoth> ktorrent from source
[01:24] <doudoo> with adept or aptitude
[01:24] <CShadowRun> i mean i need my sata's theres 500gb of drive there, but promise only supplys the drivers i listed above :(
[01:24] <Jucato> doudoo: try installing it using apt-get instead, to get more descriptive error messages
[01:24] <CShadowRun> no sign of a ubuntu\debian installer
[01:25] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: why do you need to install it as your user?
[01:25] <Lord_Maynoth> I don't have to, but having to enter a password each time to run a program is annoying
[01:25] <Jucato> er?
[01:25] <Lord_Maynoth> I was hoping there was a way around this
[01:26] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: just because it was installed w/ sudo doesn't mean you have to run the installed app as root
[01:26] <SolidSource> stupid kopete crashing
[01:26] <Lord_Maynoth> it wont let me run it without sudo
[01:26] <Lord_Maynoth> or gksu in the launcher
[01:26] <doudoo> can somedody test the install of e17 cvs with apt-get to see if depots are broken for you too plz? :p
[01:26] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: (we don't have gksu in kubuntu) your compiled ktorrent?
 doudoo: try installing it using apt-get instead, to get more descriptive error messages
[01:27] <Lord_Maynoth> im in ubuntu :c
[01:27] <doudoo> i did
[01:27] <doudoo> it
[01:27] <Jucato> !pastebin | doudoo
[01:27] <ubotu> doudoo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:27] <Jucato> doudoo: pastebin the error messages
[01:27] <Lord_Maynoth> I just thought there might be a way to give my account admin privileges without sudo
[01:28] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: there's something wrong w/ how you compiled it then
[01:28] <Admiral_Chicago> update to feisty :)
[01:28] <eilker>  button 1 is left click , button 3 is right click. what is button 4 ?
[01:28] <Admiral_Chicago> no don't...yet.
[01:28] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: even if you used "sudo make install", you should be able to run the app as any user
[01:29] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: just curious, did you use "make" or  "sudo make"?
[01:29] <Nontitle> button 4 would be an extra button, if you have a mouse with an extra button
[01:29] <doudoo> Jucato : it's in french... it say it might mis a "paquets"(dont know the name in english) problem
[01:29] <eilker> i see ok, got it
[01:29] <Nontitle> how do i change single-clicking to double-clicking in konqueror?
[01:29] <Jucato> doudoo: oh...
[01:29] <Jucato> Nontitle: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse
[01:29] <Nontitle> ok thanks Jucato
[01:30] <Lord_Maynoth> well i couldn't use make
[01:30] <Jucato> huh?
[01:30] <Lord_Maynoth> so i used unsermake
[01:30] <doudoo> Jucato: thx for your help
[01:30] <Lord_Maynoth> the program required me to use unsermake
[01:30] <doudoo> bye all
[01:30] <Lord_Maynoth> but it was not in sudo
[01:30] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: unsermake is only for programs that use CMake.
[01:30] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: help me now...
[01:30] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: later!!!
[01:30] <Jucato> lol j/k
[01:31] <Jucato> what is it?
[01:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: haha, no just kidding. I'm getting in on the Jucato FAQ sessien
[01:31] <Admiral_Chicago> session*
[01:31] <Lord_Maynoth> me /shrug it wouldn't allow me to use make because it complained saying to use unsermake instead
[01:31] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: which version of KTorrent are you compiling? you might be compiling the one for KDE4
[01:31] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: lol :)
[01:31] <Lord_Maynoth> 2.1.1
[01:31] <Jucato> let me check
[01:31] <Admiral_Chicago> bbiab.
[01:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: 2.1.1 is in Feisty for 3.5.6
[01:32] <Lord_Maynoth> i did sudo apt-get build-dep ktorrent
[01:32] <vbgunz> how do I make a variable system wide? I already put an export VAR=VAL in my .bashrc *but* heard I am supposed to put it somewhere in /etc/local or something similar... anyone know how to make a variable system wide?
[01:32] <Jucato> !info ktorrent feisty
[01:32] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2351 kB, installed size 8860 kB
[01:32] <Admiral_Chicago> oh it is -0
[01:32] <Jucato> ha! ktorrent site seems to be down
[01:33] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: btw, where are you installing it to? are you using a --prefix= option with ./configure?
[01:33] <Lord_Maynoth> I wasn't using a --prefix=
[01:33] <Lord_Maynoth> now
[01:33] <Lord_Maynoth> no
[01:33] <Lord_Maynoth> :c
[01:33] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: this is certainly not normal...
[01:34] <Lord_Maynoth> was i supposed to use the --prefix=
[01:34] <Lord_Maynoth> what does that do?
[01:34] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe
[01:34] <Admiral_Chicago> go for it
[01:34] <Jucato> !compile | Lord_Maynoth
[01:34] <ubotu> Lord_Maynoth: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:36] <Lord_Maynoth> !--prefix=
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prefix= - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:38] <carutsu> hello
[01:38] <carutsu> i'm having problems with my sound... it used to work
[01:40] <carutsu> i'm having problems with my sound... it used to work... it even thinks it's playing music
[01:40] <Lord_Maynoth> ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR would I do that in gnome?
[01:40] <Lord_Maynoth> or would it be ./configure --prefix=$GNOMEDIR
[01:41] <SolidSource> !register > nixhex
[01:43] <carutsu> ...
[01:43] <carutsu> anyone?
[01:43] <posingaspopular> carutsu: whatsthe issue
[01:43] <posingaspopular> specifically?
[01:43] <carutsu> the sound card is detected
[01:43] <carutsu> no sound comes out
[01:44] <carutsu> it used to
[01:44] <posingaspopular> did you check alsa
[01:44] <carutsu> yep and reinstalled them
[01:44] <carutsu> and rebot
[01:45] <carutsu> what's the daemon of the sound?
[01:45] <posingaspopular> !sound
[01:45] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:45] <posingaspopular> i duno actually
[01:46] <carutsu> thanks anyway.
[01:46] <carutsu> Well another thing... everytime i boot it says there are inconcistencies with my disks and no automatically fixing this...
[01:46] <carutsu> how do i fix this manually?
[01:47] <carutsu> posingaspopular?
[01:48] <Admiral_Chicago> http://images.ucomics.com/comics/bo/2007/bo070305.gif
[01:48] <posingaspopular> uhh i duno about the disk inconsistencies
[01:48] <Admiral_Chicago> gah, irssi ftl
[01:49] <posingaspopular> Admiral_Chicago: whats the daemon for sound?
[01:49] <carutsu> i disabled sound then enabled it back and it's looped...
[01:50] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm using artsd
[01:50] <carutsu> is it the default?
[01:50] <posingaspopular> should be
[01:50] <Admiral_Chicago> dunno, try alsamixer in a konsole
[01:50] <posingaspopular> i said alsa already
[01:51] <carutsu> well i have an intel sound card
[01:51] <Admiral_Chicago> dude, alsamixer in a konsole is different
[01:51] <carutsu> and i tiped artds
[01:51] <carutsu> in terminal it told me it was already runing but i dont think so...
[01:51] <posingaspopular> so... kill it and restart
[01:51] <carutsu> thats what im doing
[01:52] <Mr_Sonoma> hi everyone
[01:52] <coreymon77> oh ya!
[01:52] <coreymon77> i did it!
[01:52] <posingaspopular> kay and..
[01:52] <coreymon77> i finally was able to mount that drive in a livecd
[01:53] <carutsu> and it didnt work
[01:53] <carutsu> m...
[01:53] <carutsu> do you know what atd is?
[01:54] <Mr_Sonoma> not to interrupt but could i possibly get someone to answer a few questions?
[01:54] <posingaspopular> !ask
[01:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:54] <Mr_Sonoma> lol ok
[01:54] <Mr_Sonoma> was trying to be polite
[01:55] <Mr_Sonoma> has anyone had any problems getting the resolution right with a savage s3 vid card?
[01:55] <posingaspopular> did you check the documentation?
[01:56] <Mr_Sonoma> dont have doc on the card and their website isnt much help either as its an older card. didnt see anything in the help docs. and ive tried every savage driver listed in the os
[01:57] <Admiral_Chicago> carutsu: did you try alsamixer in a terminal
[01:57] <posingaspopular> !documentation
[01:57] <Mr_Sonoma> i could have over looked...to be honest but dont think i have
[01:57] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[01:57] <posingaspopular> !video
[01:57] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[01:57] <carutsu> alsamixer in terminal no
[01:57] <carutsu> Admiral_Chicago: alsamixer in terminal no
[01:57] <K-Ryan> Hey guys, long time no see
[01:58] <carutsu> Kmix instead
[01:58] <K-Ryan> Anyway, I need some help
[01:58] <K-Ryan> I'm trying to install this game, http://www.sturmbahnfahrer.com/
[01:59] <K-Ryan> They don't have a deb package, and I'm not sure how to compile the source
[01:59] <carutsu> Admiral_Chicago Line is muted there
[01:59] <carutsu> how do i change that?
[01:59] <carutsu> it says Line [off]
[02:00] <bonbonthejon> K-Ryan: download the source, then ./configure, then ./make, then ./make install
[02:00] <K-Ryan> Alright, thanks bonbonbthejon
[02:00] <Admiral_Chicago> carutsu: M
[02:00] <bonbonthejon> !compile
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[02:00] <carutsu> m...
[02:01] <igorjr> hi, am i able to change the mount-points of my harddrives, after i installed kubuntu?
[02:01] <posingaspopular> !mount
[02:01] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:01] <Admiral_Chicago> if it has green 00s it's on
[02:01] <igorjr> thanks
[02:01] <Admiral_Chicago> posingaspopular: do a /msg ubotu to investigate him more
[02:01] <Admiral_Chicago> carutsu: do you understand?
[02:02] <igorjr> !diskmounter
[02:02] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[02:02] <igorjr> !fstab
[02:02] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[02:02] <carutsu> Admiral_Chicago yes, thanks, didnt work
[02:02] <carutsu> its so weird yesterday i was listening to some music
[02:03] <Exal|away> hi, where is the inittab file in kubuntu?
[02:03] <intelikey> Exal|away depends on the version.   what do you want ?
[02:04] <carutsu> Admiral_Chicago how can i rebot totally? i mean, if i turn off and on it saves some info
[02:04] <Exal|away> intelikey: for run some aplications
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> carutsu: look at system settings >> sessions manager
[02:04] <carutsu> how do i make sure it just boot "from scratch"
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> it may be in advanced
[02:04] <intelikey> Exal|away edgy and up ward use "upstart" rather than SysV-init
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> carutsu: gotta run
[02:05] <Hasrat_USA> good evening everyone. I have a problem. When I click on the 'Start' menu equivalent of KDE and go to Multimedia, I don't see anything called Volume Monitor and Recording Monitor, but I badly need them to set up stuffs to use Ekiga.
[02:05] <intelikey> Exal|away but you really shouldn't run applications from inittab    ues  /etc/rc.local
[02:05] <intelikey> use
[02:06] <carutsu> Admiral_Chicago np, tahankyou
[02:06] <posingaspopular> Hasrat_USA: open a konsole
[02:06] <posingaspopular> actually
[02:06] <Hasrat_USA> posingaspopular: done
[02:06] <posingaspopular> your volume should be on the left side
[02:06] <posingaspopular> type alsa mixer
[02:06] <posingaspopular> and play around in there
[02:07] <posingaspopular> i gotta run
[02:08] <Exal|away> intelikey: ok thanks
[02:09] <Hasrat_USA> I know all about alsamixer but i also know that KDE/Gnome comes with two default applications. 1. volume monitor (that lets you monitor in real time the volume) and 2. recording level monitor (that lets you monitor how loudly or quietly you're speaking into the mic)
[02:09] <Hasrat_USA> I need to figure out a way to add these two applications to the 'start' menu
[02:10] <Hasrat_USA> and I don't know how to add items to the start menu in KDE
[02:10] <intelikey> right click it
[02:11] <intelikey> it's kde, if you want to change something; right click it.
[02:11] <Hasrat_USA> intelikey: then?
[02:12] <intelikey> ah does the words kmenu editor   not give you a clue ?
[02:13] <K-Ryan> Alright, this isn't working
[02:13] <K-Ryan> The source came in a tar.gz which i extracted
[02:13] <K-Ryan> Actually...
[02:13] <K-Ryan> !compile
[02:13] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:14] <intelikey> !info build-essential
[02:14] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[02:15] <intelikey> K-Ryan might i ask what you are building ?
[02:17] <cpk1> the world!
[02:17] <cpk1> he is building the world
[02:18] <cpk1> and it will be magnificent!
[02:18] <intelikey> magnificent ?    no just big.
[02:18] <cpk1> no no he is using the -magnificent flag
[02:19] <intelikey> :)
[02:19] <cpk1> =D
[02:21] <intelikey> you gentoo guys crack me up.
[02:26] <hilltop> hello folk, My brother lives 10+ miles to the nearest elextric power, North or South and the same to any phone connection - even no cell. I'm trying to help him with kubuntu.
[02:28] <hilltop> Here is the question. He installed ubuntu 6.06 and has kubuntu CD. I "know" he can add KDE to his existing ubuntu, I did from repos and can log into either.
[02:28] <hilltop> How can he add kubuntu CD to his repo list and have it not be asking for the Internet? Thanks so mush for a great Linux.
[02:29] <voidmage> hilltop: sudo apt-cdrom add
[02:29] <voidmage> at least i think
[02:29] <ubuntu> !mount
[02:29] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:29] <NDPTAL85> Is there an easy way to install Beryl to my Kubuntu install?
[02:30] <voidmage> what version?
[02:30] <hilltop> thank you voidmage. I told him to just put the CD in and it will ask him about adding it with a popup. I htink htis in fact worked. But any attempt to use it keep asking for the Internet.
[02:30] <voidmage> hmm
[02:31] <NDPTAL85> What version?
[02:31] <hilltop> I gave him ubuntu 6.06 and kubuntu 6.06, both the same - should be workable. :)
[02:31] <NDPTAL85> I'm running Edgy if you are asking about Kubuntu.
[02:31] <voidmage> not sure if anyone would know about this
[02:31] <voidmage> but somehow my filesystem is mounted as read only now
[02:33] <hilltop> voidmage, according to search just now on google you are correct. That may be the thing I need. Along with getting ride of the rest of the repos
[02:33] <hilltop> voimage, what file system???
[02:33] <xoss> i'm having problems with my dual boot system.. is there a way to bypass grub and boot the pc using the original boot.ini of winXP?
[02:33] <voidmage> hilltop: ext3
[02:33] <voidmage> the relevant fstab line
[02:33] <voidmage> UUID=0f15f1d0-4789-441a-b748-c3473679809c /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[02:34] <hilltop> is that removable?
[02:34] <voidmage> no, it's root
[02:34] <hilltop> ops
[02:35] <coreymon77> hi guys
[02:36] <coreymon77> what repo contains mondo?
[02:36] <voidmage> coreymon77:  universe
[02:36] <Jucato> !info mondo
[02:36] <ubotu> mondo: powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.08-2-2 (edgy), package size 391 kB, installed size 1128 kB
[02:37] <coreymon77> im on a dapper livecd
[02:37] <coreymon77> do i have that repo?
[02:37] <voidmage> maybe
[02:37] <makuseru> how can i convert a .avi to .mpeg?
[02:37] <voidmage> try it
[02:37] <coreymon77> because i cant find the package in apt
[02:38] <voidmage> actually, i'm not sure if livecd comes with universe
[02:38] <voidmage> probably doesn't to save space, but don't quote me on that
[02:38] <Jucato> coreymon77: you will have to enable (or add) universe
[02:38] <coreymon77> okay
[02:38] <Jucato> !info mondo dapper
[02:38] <ubotu> mondo: powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.06-1 (dapper), package size 462 kB, installed size 1352 kB
[02:41] <makuseru> how can i convert a .avi to .mpeg?
[02:42] <SolidSource> makuseru: theres a kommander script
[02:42] <makuseru> where?
[02:43] <SolidSource> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=53555
[02:44] <SolidSource> theres also http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=53610
[02:45] <SolidSource> and if you want to conver directly to DVD theres: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=36351
[02:46] <makuseru> i couldnt ever get a DVD to butn
[02:46] <makuseru> burn*(
[02:46] <makuseru> so i ended yup wasting like 4 dvds
[02:46] <makuseru> cause i kept getting errors
[02:46] <makuseru> so now im trying video CDs
[02:47] <SolidSource> ok, that might be fixed in the next release of K3B
[02:47] <SolidSource> 1.0 has a lot of hardware support fixes
[02:48] <gili> does anyone here get the s-video to work in 6.10
[02:49] <makuseru> SolidSource: so thats not just a problem for me? its a general problem?
[02:51] <K-Ryan> Okay I'm back, tried to compile it which wasn't working, then went to dinner
[02:51] <SolidSource> makuseru: its a general problem with any DVD software...though I have never had a problem, I know people that have had problems, especially with HP
[02:51] <K-Ryan> Anyway, I'm trying to build this, http://www.sturmbahnfahrer.com/
[02:51] <K-Ryan> Physics based game
[02:53] <K-Ryan> Is there anyone that might be able to help?
[02:53] <makuseru> go figure
[02:53] <makuseru> mine is an HP
[02:54] <SolidSource> k-ryan> I'm giving it a go
[02:54] <K-Ryan> Thanks SolidSource
[02:54] <K-Ryan> In one of the comments I read it didn't have a ./configure, might have been changed since that comment was made, but it's something to note.
[02:55] <SolidSource> thats what I was looking for, but can't find one
[02:55] <Jucato> you might have to generate the configure script first
[02:55] <K-Ryan> Hey Jucato, long time no see =)
[02:56] <Jucato> hi K-Ryan
[02:56] <K-Ryan> =)
[02:56] <Jucato> so you're stuck at configure? because it has no configure?
[02:57] <K-Ryan> I don't know what to do with it
[02:57] <K-Ryan> I clicked the source link and it opened in Konqueror
[02:57] <SolidSource> did you follow the instructions in INSTALL file?
[02:57] <Jucato> hm... you downloaded the .tar.gz ?
[02:57] <K-Ryan> Tried to extract it, and it gave me an error about extracting certain things, but it did extract a bucnh of stuff
[02:57] <K-Ryan> *bunch
[02:58] <SolidSource> k-ryan: extracted with no errors here, might try redownloading
[02:58] <K-Ryan> I'll try again
[02:58] <Jucato> looks like you don't need configure for it
[02:58] <Jucato> the INSTALL file gives instructions :D
[02:58] <SolidSource> yeah
[02:58] <K-Ryan> Oh, I only checked readmes..
[02:58] <Jucato> just make, and make run. no need for make install
[02:59] <Jucato> K-Ryan: when dealing w/ source code, always read INSTALL and README files
[02:59] <K-Ryan> Didn't know that there was more than a readme
[02:59] <K-Ryan> I've been on XP lately, I'm in a gaming mood
[03:00] <Jucato> any good source code tarball will have both INSTALL and README
[03:00] <K-Ryan> Yeah extraction is giving me errors again
[03:00] <Jucato> if it doesn't, then it sucks :)
[03:00] <K-Ryan> A lot of "Not found in archive" stuff
[03:00] <Jucato> O.o
[03:00] <K-Ryan> Mind you this is directly from Konqueror, I haven't figured out how to download the tar.gz
[03:00] <Jucato> K-Ryan: http://www.stolk.org/sturmbahnfahrer/download/sturmbahnfahrer-1.3.tar.gz <---- download that
[03:01] <SolidSource> firefox for the win
[03:01] <Jucato> K-Ryan: in the download page, you can just right-click on the link and select Save target as
[03:01] <K-Ryan> Yeah I clicked that link and it opened in Konqueror for me to browse the files, let's try again...
[03:01] <Jucato> Save Link As
[03:01] <K-Ryan> now it's opening in Ark
[03:01] <K-Ryan> Should I download it?
[03:01] <Jucato> ye
[03:01] <Jucato> yeah
[03:01] <Jucato> unless you don't want to install it :)
[03:02] <K-Ryan> No, I meant should I download the tar.gz
[03:02] <Jucato> btw, it will not really be installed. you will have to use "make run" everytime
[03:02] <Jucato> yes
[03:02] <K-Ryan> That's not a biggie
[03:02] <Jucato> download it somewhere, then extract the contents
[03:02] <Jucato> ok, Jucato-minute over :)
[03:02] <K-Ryan> Thanks Jucato
[03:03] <Jucato> np
[03:03] <NixHex> wonder what I did for kopete to start crashing
[03:04] <K-Ryan> Ark is giving me extraction errors now..
[03:04] <K-Ryan> !pastebin
[03:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:04] <Jucato> K-Ryan: hm... have you finished downloading it?
[03:04] <K-Ryan> Yeah, hold on a second
[03:05] <K-Ryan> Never mind, can't copy and paste it...
[03:05] <NixHex> another reason not to use konqueror...the thing some times hides the download windows and you won't know if it is finished or not
[03:06] <K-Ryan> Here's one line, drwxr-xr-x bram/users 0 2006-09-04 11:50 sturmbahnfahrer-1.3/
[03:06] <Jucato> NixHex: if the download window closes, it's finished
[03:06] <K-Ryan> And when typing ./make sturm.......
[03:06] <NixHex> Jucato: nope, I have had it close the window (basically hid it into the background, nothing in the taskbar) and yet it wasn't finished
[03:06] <Jucato> NixHex: it's actually a Progress Dialog/window. same thing that appears when you are copying/moving files. once the process finishes, it closes. BUt I think that behavior can be changed
[03:06] <K-Ryan> It tells me no such file or directory
[03:07] <Jucato> NixHex: hm... never encounteredt hat before
[03:07] <Jucato> K-Ryan: what are you trying to do? (or how are you doing it?)
[03:07] <killermach_> what app should I use to turn a series of jpegs into a DVD slideshow?
[03:07] <K-Ryan> I had typed ./make <path>
[03:08] <NixHex> Jucato: the download dialog even has crashed leaving a partly downloaded file, and when trying to restart the download it keeps crashing
[03:08] <Jucato> K-Ryan: er no
[03:08] <K-Ryan> Umm, =)
[03:08] <Jucato> K-Ryan: just plain "make"
[03:08] <K-Ryan> Okay, it says nothing to be done
[03:09] <Jucato> K-Ryan: you have to go inside the extracted sturmblablah folder
[03:09] <Jucato> K-Ryan: of course, you have to extract it first...
[03:09] <morphine_> howdy folks, I'm wondering if anyone can offer some advice
[03:09] <K-Ryan> Did
[03:09] <Gh0st75> anyone know how i can restore an ipod in kubuntu?
[03:09] <jack_> hi, i amy trying to fix my mic which doesnt record sound using this post
[03:09] <jack_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255071#10
[03:10] <jack_> but i cannot do this:make sure you turn up the volume using the up arrows.
[03:10] <morphine_> I recently decided to switch from XP to kubuntu, and I also bought a 160gb hard drive for my machine. Kubuntu is currently installed on a 10gb drive... should I make the 160gb /home or just move the whole operation to it?
[03:10] <jack_> how would you do that ?
[03:10] <soulrider> morphine_: maybe you can set fstab to mount ~ on your new drive, but i dunno if that would work
[03:11] <bonbonthejon> morphinex: why not let the installer allocate the space
[03:11] <morphinex> Well, I have the whoile thing on the 10gb now
[03:12] <morphinex> So the question is: will 10g be enough long-term for parts of the system other than /home?
[03:12] <K-Ryan> Alright screw it, I give up
[03:12] <K-Ryan> It's not a big deal, it's a one level game =)
[03:12] <jack_> if you type alsamixer in the konsoler, how do increase the volume in the tabs, e.g. in the capture tab??
[03:12] <morphinex> I'm wishing I had done the whole thing on lvm ;)
[03:12] <bonbonthejon> morphinex: expand the partition to fit the entire drive
[03:13] <NixHex> jack_wyt: is there a little speaker icon in your system tray?
[03:13] <morphinex> The big drive is empty now, not even installed
[03:13] <morphinex> Not in the computer
[03:13] <NixHex> jack_wyt: is there a little speaker icon in your system tray?
[03:13] <bonbonthejon> morphinex: oh, i see the problem
[03:13] <NixHex> whats with the adding wyt on the end
[03:13] <mortici> is there a way to get my computer to boot up with num lock on? like especially KDM/KDE
[03:14] <bonbonthejon> Gh0st75: I dont think so, best off finding a windows box with itunes
[03:14] <morphinex> bonbonthejon: yeah... so the other option is to just use g4l or g4u or whatever
[03:15] <morphinex> Move the 10gb onto the 160 and then resize the filesystem
[03:15] <bonbonthejon> morphinex: I have a similar set up for my server, I have a whole hard drive mounted as /samba, which is shared by samba, ironically :)
[03:15] <jack_> NixHex: yes i did
[03:16] <bonbonthejon> mortici_: this says for gnome, but you could make changes http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_turn_on_Num_Lock_on_GNOME_startup
[03:17] <DRomeo521> Does anyone know why the 'urgent' flashing (ex. receive new instant message in Gaim) in the kicker does not flash while using Beryl?
[03:17] <morphinex> bonbonthejon: I just wonder if 10gb will be enough for the systemn
[03:17] <K-Ryan> What do you want to do with it?
[03:17] <morphinex> bonbonthejon: i'm also tempted to just wait until 7.04 and start over ;)
[03:18] <bonbonthejon> morphinex: as long as you keep most stuff on the bigger partution
[03:18] <jack_> NixHex: sorry i didnt see the question earlier, in the kmix everything is fine: volume turned up, which colour should the red dot have, red or bright red?
[03:18] <K-Ryan> 10GB just for the OS?
[03:18] <K-Ryan> Should be more than enough unless I'm mistaken
[03:18] <Jucato> mortici: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard
[03:18] <morphinex> K-Ryan: yes, and /home would be on another drive
[03:18] <NixHex> jack_wyt: don't think the red one should be selected..but the green one yes
[03:18] <K-Ryan> Yeah that sounds fine
[03:19] <bonbonthejon> morphinex: it is hard to move /home, why not just mount the new drive as a folder in your home folder
[03:19] <morphinex> bonbonthejon: a folder in ~ ?
[03:19] <jack_> NixHex: the red one is for hte mic, but there are switches too, line and mic, which one should i tick?
[03:19] <bonbonthejon> morphinex: like ~/storage
[03:19] <morphinex> what is difficult about moving /home?
[03:20] <NDPTAL85> I feel so proud. I got Beryl installed on my Kubuntu box. This is what Beryl (not my setup) looks like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywo83CB8p68&mode=related&search=
[03:20] <bonbonthejon> morphinex: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[03:20] <K-Ryan> morphinex I have about 12GB for Kubuntu in general, granted I installed a bunch of stuff, but it's only 45% used
[03:20] <jack_> NixHex: still doesnt work, hell
[03:21] <K-Ryan> And that comes to 6.6GB
[03:21] <morphinex> my 10gb is 70% full with ~ accounting for about 3g
[03:21] <K-Ryan> So you could probably get away with 5GB for straight Kubuntu
[03:21] <NixHex> jack_wyt: yeah neither working
[03:22] <morphinex> Yeah, I guess my concern is a more long-term one
[03:22] <NixHex> jack_wyt: ok, go to the switches tab
[03:22] <morphinex> As I accumulate stuff it might fill up
[03:22] <K-Ryan> 10GB should be good for just the OS
[03:22] <morphinex> ok
[03:22] <K-Ryan> And all the bits and pieces you may download for it
[03:23] <bonbonthejon> morphinex: keep music, movies, etc on the other drive
[03:23] <NixHex> jack_wyt: on the input tab you need the green dot selected for mic, and then on the switches tab, you need to select mic as well
[03:23] <morphinex> I guess that worst case I will just buy another drive down the road, but I'm sure you guys are right
[03:23] <morphinex> thanks for the guide
[03:24] <morphinex> I actually have another issue, all this tlak about the sound system reminded me. When I use teamspeak, I can hear myself through my headphones
[03:24] <morphinex> In fact, I can always hear noise from the mic through the sound system
[03:24] <jack_> jucato:Run alsamixer in console.. Go into the playback "tab" and mute mic. Go into the capture tab, I think f4 and hit space on Mic and space on capture until L R Captur is red under both Mic and Capture. make sure you turn up the volume using the up arrows.
[03:24] <Admiral_Chicago> is there a way to show certain files on a desktop. so .odt on one, .ogg on another?
[03:25] <Jucato> jack_: huh?
[03:25] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: nope. you can't have different icons per VD
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: didn't think so
[03:25] <surgy> !share
[03:25] <jack_> jucato: do you have any idea how i can in the konsole increase the mic volume like described here?i cannot get it done
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <Jucato> jack_: sorry, don't know...
[03:26] <Jucato> I'm not a sound person...
[03:26] <surgy> how do i share a folder over my network? both computers are running edgy
[03:26] <jack_> Jucato: ok,thanks though..lol
[03:26] <voidmage> What file is the list of installed packages stored on?
[03:26] <surgy> jack_: use kmix its in your kde menu
[03:26] <bonbonthejon> voidmage: none, you can do "dpkg -l"
[03:26] <Jucato> dpkg --get-selections
[03:27] <jack_> surgy: i am doing that, kmix is fine, mic enabled, volume up
[03:27] <NixHex> jack_wyt: you need to enable the mic in the switches tab as well though
[03:27] <Lord_Maynoth> hello I have a really dumb question
[03:27] <bonbonthejon> !ask
[03:27] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:27] <voidmage> I can't dpkg --get-selectiong
[03:27] <voidmage> i'm on a livecd on a corrupted filesyste
[03:28] <voidmage> any suggestions to extract a list of installed packageS:
[03:28] <voidmage> ?
[03:28] <jack_> NixHex: i did that, still no chance
[03:28] <NixHex> Jucato: how do I get it not to address the person alias, cause it keeps changing jack_ to jack_wyt...?
[03:28] <Lord_Maynoth> I have a launcher that requires me to run gksu <program name>     is there a way to make it so I don't have to type in my password?
[03:28] <xoss> my XP still wont boot with GRUB.. previously i can dual boot XP and kubuntu.. help anyone??
[03:28] <surgy> jucato: can you tell me how to share a folder over my network between two linux computers? i have used samba between linux and windows, but now he switched to kubuntu :)
[03:28] <NixHex> jack_wyt: weird, worked right off
[03:28] <morphinex> voidmage: I have that info, hold on a sec
[03:29] <bonbonthejon> surgy: samba should work, or nfs
[03:29] <voidmage> ljoin #ubuntu+1
[03:29] <bonbonthejon> !grub
[03:29] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:29] <Jucato> NixHex: just type ja[Tab] ?
[03:29] <bonbonthejon> !grub | xoss
[03:29] <ubotu> xoss: please see above
[03:29] <Jucato> surgy: wrong person to ask... :)
[03:29] <NixHex> jucato: its giving me the jack_wyt with that too
[03:30] <surgy> bonbonthejon: samba works for linux? i tried smb:// [ip]  and it says it doesnt exsist..... does that mean he has nothing shared? if so how can he share it?
[03:30] <Jucato> it gives me jack_ at the top of the list... are you using konversation?
[03:30] <jack_> nixhex: did you read the how to i posted above to jucato? it s kind of great, but i cannot increase the volume in the alsamixer in the konsole with the arrow keys
[03:30] <morphinex> voidmage: http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=564
[03:30] <bonbonthejon> Lord_Maynoth: in konsole, run "which PROG" to find where it is, then do "sudo chmod 777 PATH_TO_PROG
[03:31] <NixHex> jack_wyt: yeah that works fine on mine, so I don't know
[03:31] <voidmage> morphinex: i can't dpkg --get-selections, i'm on a livecd and my install is corrupted
[03:31] <voidmage> erm
[03:31] <voidmage> the filesystem is
[03:31] <voidmage> i can read individual files but don't know how to get the list from there
[03:31] <bonbonthejon> surgy: i think you can right click on a folder in konqueror and go to properties, then sharing
[03:31] <Lord_Maynoth> thanks
[03:31] <morphinex> voidmage: ah, sorry, that's all I know
[03:31] <bonbonthejon> Lord_Maynoth: did it work, there should be a way to do it in one line
[03:32] <bonbonthejon> !nfs | surgy
[03:32] <ubotu> surgy: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:32] <surgy> bonbonthejon: no "sharing" when i right click a file in konq
[03:32] <bonbonthejon> !samba | surgy
[03:33] <ubotu> surgy: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:33] <Section32> Is there a "Startup Items" like app for KDE/Kubuntu like there is on Gnome/Ubuntu?
[03:33] <mortici> how do i verify that usplash works on my raid0 setup?
[03:33] <surgy> bonbonthejon: but this is for linux to linux file sharing
[03:33] <bonbonthejon> surgy: samba can work
[03:34] <surgy> bonbonthejon: you prefer nfs?
[03:34] <bonbonthejon> surgy: nfs is a unix way, but samba can work, especially if windows boxes might need to be added later
[03:35] <surgy> bonbonthejon: ok, can you tell me how to share a folder?
[03:36] <Lord_Maynoth> bonbonthejon, well the program still works fine but for some reason when it only works in the system try when I use sudo <program name> or gksu <program name> in the launcher
[03:36] <nixhex> jack_: don't know what could be wrong with yours, I can't even simulate the problem
[03:36] <Lord_Maynoth> ok
[03:36] <Lord_Maynoth> that works
[03:36] <bonbonthejon> Lord_Maynoth: then edit the menu
[03:36] <Lord_Maynoth> wow
[03:36] <Lord_Maynoth> I think that fixed it
[03:37] <nixhex> jucato: I think it was a kopete thing is why it kept changing the name
[03:37] <jack_> nixhex: it doesnt seem to be an uncommon thing, but nothing works from the remedies;-)
[03:37] <bonbonthejon> surgy: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_share_folders_the_easy_way
[03:38] <surgy> thank you
[03:38] <nixhex> jack_: yeah, but if I can't simulate it, I can't troubleshoot it
[03:41] <jack_> nixhex: thank you though, trying a couple of other how tos..
[03:42] <Lord_Maynoth> bonbonthejon, thanks so much! that seems to have done the trick
[03:42] <Lord_Maynoth> I now finished my guide on the forums
[03:42] <nixhex> jack_: have tried reinstalling the ALSA stuff?
[03:42] <bonbonthejon> Lord_Maynoth: its insecure, but it works
[03:42] <Lord_Maynoth> works great!
[03:42] <Lord_Maynoth> hehe
[03:42] <Lord_Maynoth> thanks
[03:43] <jack_> nixhex: via apt-get reinstall alsa-mixer?
[03:45] <nixhex> jack_: thats not a package on my list, but go into adept and search alsa, and you can reinstall from there
[03:46] <jack_> nixhex: ok
[03:47] <nixhex> jack_: if don't have the ALSA-OSS package installed, you should do that too
[03:50] <jack_> nixhex: i have them,(alsabase, alsa-oss,alsa-utils) should i get the firmware loader,-tool, -daemon, -gui too?
[03:50] <duckdown> Hi all.. Is anyone familiar with running X programs on a remote box through ssh? (ssh -X outside.machine.com) I am able to run individual applications like 'firefox' and 'konqueror' and what not, but I can't seem to figure out how to get into my own Window Manager (like GNOME).. I'd rather open a whole desktop rather than running individual X programs by hand every time
[03:51] <nonuda_> !installation
[03:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:52] <abattoir> duckdown: tried 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm(or gdm) start' ?
[03:52] <rustin> hi! anybody knows how to enable the alsa(-)conf(ig) command?
[03:53] <nixhex> jack_: no, I don't have those, I have those 3 and gstreamer0.10-alsa, lib32sound2, libasound2, libesd-alsa0, libpt-plugins-alsa, and linux-sound-base thats all the ALSA stuff I have
[03:55] <nixhex> jack_: but if you just reinstall the base and utils it should work if its going to
[03:56] <nonuda_> need help to install kubuntu without cdrom, i have follow the guide but it didn't work
[03:57] <jack_> nixhex: icannot find lib32sound2 on my system
[03:58] <nixhex> jack_: you don't that one
[03:58] <jack_> nixhex: and synaptic doesnt find it..its somewhere in the reps?
[03:59] <nixhex> jack_: lib32sound2 is for 64bit system...so you don't need
[03:59] <nixhex> jack_: I shouldn't have even mentioned that one
[04:01] <rustin> alsaconfig... anybody knows? :S
[04:02] <fyrmedic> When using lsmod and in the event of sound problems should the entry pcspkr be empty with no user?
[04:02] <jack_> nixhex: i thought this might be the case as i am on the centrino, but there was a 64 edition too, funny that the 32 is for the 64 then any way
[04:03] <nonuda_> anyone?
[04:03] <nixhex> jack_: lib32 is same as ia32....so people know that they are so you can run 32 bit apps
[04:18] <nixhex> jack_: that work?
[04:22] <ghetek> hey guys, i have remote hosting for my website and i use sshfs to mount it to a folder in my media directory. as of now every time that my computer starts up i need to re-enter in the sshfs mount command and put in the directory. I would liket o put it in the auto start applications but then i still need to put in the password. can someone please walk me through how to get ssh-keygen working so that i no longer need a password?
[04:23] <nixhex> !usplash
[04:23] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[04:24] <ghetek> !ubotu
[04:24] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:25] <BluesKaj> !autostart
[04:25] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[04:26] <ghetek> !ssh-keygen
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ssh-keygen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:30] <nonuda_> need help to install kubuntu without cdrom, i have follow the guide but it didn't work
[04:30] <BluesKaj> !ssh
[04:30] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:35] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone know what the terminal command to see where a program is installed to is?
[04:36] <Jucato> how did you install the program?
[04:36] <Lord_Maynoth> from source
[04:36] <firecrotch> Okay, I need a bit of help with sed
[04:36] <Jucato> if you didn't specify the --prefix, it will be in /usr (or /usr/bin to be exact)
[04:36] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth: ^^^
[04:37] <firecrotch> Never used it before, and I need to use it to replace all occurences of a particular phrase with a different phrase
[04:37] <nixhex> !info usplash install
[04:37] <Lord_Maynoth> Jucato, thanks
[04:37] <ubotu> usplash: Userspace bootsplash utility. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4-33 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 564 kB
[04:38] <fyrmedic> I was able to get my onboard wireless card to work the other day. I have since had to re-install. Anybody have a good link for re-installing the wlan0?
[04:40] <Lord_Maynoth> I remember... which thats it
[04:40] <Lord_Maynoth> hhaha
[04:40] <Lord_Maynoth> yay
[04:40] <Lord_Maynoth> I am really beginning to like the CLI
[04:41] <Lord_Maynoth> is that bad
[04:41] <Lord_Maynoth> LOL
[04:41] <Admiral_Chicago> nah, CLI FTW
[04:41] <BluesKaj> anyone know of a utility to burn audio to dvd ?
[04:42] <mortici> if i mount a windows xp drive what is the fs type i should use ie. mount -t ??? /dev/hda /mnt
[04:42] <Admiral_Chicago> mortici: ntfs probably
[04:43] <ira> where is the edgy bug conference?
[04:43] <ira> sorry festy
[04:44] <Jucato> ira: please ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:44] <ira> ty
[04:48] <nixhex> !bootsplash
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <nixhex> can't find any good instructions on shanging usplash
[04:49] <vmmartinezg> hello
[04:49] <nixcamic> hey all
[04:49] <vmmartinezg> how do i do to register my nick?
[04:49] <nixcamic> anyone know what kubuntu uses for automounting of inserted usb drives?
[04:50] <Admiral_Chicago> !register | vmmartinezg
[04:50] <ubotu> vmmartinezg: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:51] <vmmartinezg> how can i run Office in kubuntu?
[04:51] <vmmartinezg> and i mean run it well...
[04:51] <nixcamic> vmmartinezg: openoffice or ms office?
[04:51] <vmmartinezg> ms
[04:52] <vmmartinezg> anyone? any idea?
[04:52] <nixcamic> crossover office?
[04:52] <Crell> wine or crossover could be useful.
[04:52] <Crell> I've never tried it, though.  I prefer OOo.
[04:53] <brother> hello, I am trying to install a brother printer driver, and i get an error from gdebi "unable to copy PPD file" Can anyone help??
[04:53] <vmmartinezg> Me too, but tell that to my colleagues in college :(
[04:54] <Crell> They can read rtf files.
[04:54] <vmmartinezg> you may be right, but if i'm to change some of my docs at college...
[04:54] <nixhex> brother: you got the 2 DEB files and installed the LPR one before the CUPS one?
[04:55] <nixcamic> so i take it noone knows what mounting daemon kubuntu uses?
[04:56] <vmmartinezg> it's natural on kubuntu to mount images
[04:56] <hazard_> magical happy pixie faries.
[04:56] <brother> nixhex, i tried to install the first one first, then saw what you were talking about, then started over
[04:56] <vmmartinezg> but i forgot the command
[04:56] <b0rted> hey there
[04:56] <nixhex> brother: follow the instructions brother provides at http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/index.html
[04:56] <vmmartinezg> check on google.com
[04:56] <b0rted> does any1 know the command "hg clone url" ?
[04:57] <vmmartinezg> anyone knows what is youtube?
[04:57] <coreymon77> guys
[04:57] <coreymon77> problem
[04:57] <brother> nixhex, i did follow that, i accidentally installed them in the wrong order, but then tried over again, is there something i have to undo first?
[04:58] <coreymon77> whenever i type in sudo it gives me this error
[04:58] <coreymon77> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Mar  6 22:19:20 2007
[04:58] <vmmartinezg> hehehe just kiddin'...
[04:58] <b0rted> vmmartinezg: tio
[04:58] <nixhex> brother: don't think so
[04:58] <brother> ok
[04:58] <coreymon77> how do i fic that
[04:58] <brother> thanks
[04:59] <b0rted> im following a how to install my usb tv stick, and ubuntu doesnt recognise "hg" command
[04:59] <brother> nixhex, i dont see cups running in my processes, do i need to enable it somehow?
[04:59] <nixhex> brother: no
[04:59] <brother> k
[04:59] <nixhex> coreymon77: make sure your clock and date are correct
[04:59] <b0rted> vmmartinezg: any help?
[05:00] <coreymon77> nixhex: they are fine
[05:00] <firecrotch> coreymon77: sudo -K
[05:00] <heather> testing
[05:01] <coreymon77> firecrotch: same thing
[05:01] <vmmartinezg> what about
[05:01] <nixhex> coreymon77: bios might have a different time
[05:01] <heather> this just in.....
[05:02] <heather> firecrotch needs a glass of water
[05:02] <firecrotch> coreymon77: Set the date and time to something ahead of what the error says, then sudo -k
[05:02] <firecrotch> lol heather
[05:03] <heather> night all K Ubuntu rocks!
[05:03] <firecrotch> night, heather!
[05:03] <coreymon77> firecrotch: i cant
[05:03] <coreymon77> firecrotch: i can use su
[05:04] <coreymon77> firecrotch: i mean
[05:04] <coreymon77> firecrotch: i cant
[05:04] <coreymon77> firecrotch: i cant change the time
[05:04] <firecrotch> coreymon77:  reboot into single user mode to do that then
[05:04] <coreymon77> how do i do it
[05:04] <makuseru> what would be a good program to split a avi or mpeg into two parts?
[05:04] <coreymon77> firecrotch: whats the command
[05:05] <nixcamic> hate to seem impatient here, but noone knows what's called by hal to mount new media?
[05:06] <orangey> hey all.
[05:06] <Crell> nixcamic: It's changed so many times in the last 2 years I lost track.
[05:06] <orangey> since upgrading to herd 5 (from edgy), my kopete has been very small in the contact list.
[05:06] <orangey> is that something that kubuntu did?
[05:06] <orangey> if so, how can I undo that?
[05:06] <nixcamic> Crell: thats the problem, after an hour of googleing i have 5 different wrong answers
[05:07] <firecrotch> coreymon77: When grub comes up, press `e` and add the word single to the end of the line that you use to boot normally
[05:07] <Crell> I don't know what Edgy in particular does, sorry.
[05:07] <Crell> I'm just amazed it works when it does. :_0
[05:07] <Crell> :-)
[05:07] <firecrotch> coreymon77:  Then press b to boot
[05:07] <nixcamic> yeah, its pretty much the reason i switched to kubuntu
[05:08] <nixcamic> and now i cant configure it, which is making it a lot less usefull to me
[05:08] <coreymon77> firecrotch: no, i meant how do i change the time
[05:08] <orangey> alright..
[05:08] <orangey> it says on the wiki that Kopete's contact list got themed for Feisty.
[05:08] <orangey> but how do I *change* this theme, since I don't like it?
[05:09] <firecrotch> coreymon77:  date -s
[05:09] <coreymon77> firecrotch: that will reset it?
[05:09] <firecrotch> coreymon77: use date -s 23:00 to set it to 23:00
[05:10] <firecrotch> Then you should be able to sudo -k
[05:10] <orangey> My lord, the theme is so small I want to rip my eyes out.
[05:10] <b0rt> please help, why i cant use "hg clone" command?
[05:10] <coreymon77> what about the date
[05:11] <FabioBr> Hello, i have a webcam with mic and i want to grab some frames and audio. Can you give me some suggestions for programs to use?
[05:11] <makuseru> what would be a good program to split a avi or mpeg into two parts?
[05:12] <firecrotch> coreymon77: Not sure, probably something like date -s Mar 5, 2006
[05:12] <brother> nixhex, seems brother was prepared for my problem in there faq
[05:12] <coreymon77> firecrotch: so should i set the date to after the date that the error says?
[05:13] <draik> What do I use to copy a CD?
[05:13] <bonbonthejon> draik: rip to mp3 or copy to iso?
[05:13] <draik> bonbonthejon: ISO
[05:14] <bonbonthejon> draik: i think there is a program mkisofs
[05:15] <Dr_willis> k3b can copy cd's i belive
[05:15] <draik> I will try
[05:15] <Dr_willis> or dd it to an iso file. then use k3b to burn the iso
[05:15] <Dr_willis> 'do not try, do..'
[05:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:15] <sep1318> "do, or do not. there is no try"
[05:16] <alanhaggai> Dr_willis: K3B is excellent in burning CD/DVDs
[05:16] <alanhaggai> Just burnt one now.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> as long as its not an ATHF flashing led sign...
[05:18] <firecrotch> coreymon77: Yes, set it to after the date it says
[05:18] <neoncode> I just saw the new logon screen for Ubuntu Fiesty and damn that looks good, is Kubuntu getting a new good looking one too?
[05:19] <alanhaggai> neoncode: Can you give me a link to the pic?
[05:19] <neoncode> alanhaggai: http://www.masuran.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/artwork2.png
[05:19] <neoncode> It's part of that review that was on Digg.
[05:20] <alanhaggai> neoncode: Looks nice, but not much improvements over Edgy's splash.
[05:21] <makuseru> what would be a good program to split a avi or mpeg into two parts?
[05:21] <neoncode> alanhaggai: I love that new depth feture at the bottom. I'm seriously considering switching to Ubuntu in 7.04 over Kubuntu.
[05:21] <alanhaggai> neoncode: KDE is much better than Gnome I should say.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Gnome makes me feel like i got my hands tied behind my back..
[05:22] <sep1318> hehehe
[05:22] <alanhaggai> Haha Dr_willis
[05:22] <Dr_willis> but my shoes are slip ons.. so i dont need my hands...
[05:22] <neoncode> alanhaggai: I aggree, but KDE is ugly. Also, Gnome works better with Beryl.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Untill i need to go to the bathroom..
[05:23] <Dr_willis> I dont find KDE ugly at all.
[05:23] <alanhaggai> I too.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> and Beryl is such a work in progress - i find THAT ugly.
[05:23] <nixcamic> anyone know the command called by hal to mount new media?
[05:23] <alanhaggai> neoncode: I was an avid Gnome user. But when I switched to KDE, I never looked back.
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Now that Mandriva Live cd with Mettiss (mettis?) metiss? had some neat features that i could see as adding useablity
[05:24] <neoncode> alanhaggai: I have Ubuntu on my laptop and Kubuntu on my desktop. And I plan to build a new PC within a month or so and I'll have a GeForce 8800GTS - so I might as well put it to some use.
[05:24] <alanhaggai> neoncode: Then Beryl will be nice. :)
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Im not sure the 8800 are well supported yet.
[05:25] <Dr_willis> i was thinking one needed the latest nvidia drivers for them.
[05:25] <FabioBr> Anyone can suggest me a program to capture a video (with audio) from my webcam?
[05:25] <alanhaggai> Dr_willis: I use Beryl with my GeForce 6200
[05:25] <neoncode> Yea that's what I was going to ask, what drivers do you need for the 8800?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> alanhaggai,  we are refering to the 8800 however. :)
[05:25] <neoncode> I don't have a moral problem useing binary drivers if nessicary.
[05:25] <alanhaggai> So it will have generic support I think.
[05:25] <Dr_willis> neoncode,  i Seem to recall seeing some discussion about how the newest nvidia drivers were needed for them. THe ones with Edgy are not new enough.
[05:26] <Dr_willis> I belive even the nv drivers may of been having some issues.. but this is just what i gatehred hanging in this channel. I advise checking the wiki/forums first
[05:26] <neoncode> Hmm... As long as I can get text console I'll be able to get newer drivers.
[05:26] <orangey> hey all.
[05:26] <neoncode> orangey: Hey.
[05:26] <Dr_willis> I cant afford a new pc/card at this time. :()
[05:26] <neoncode> Another thing about drivers
[05:27] <orangey> somebody working on kopete for kubuntu has made it such that there's a theme patched into the code that makes the detailed view fundamentally unusable for me on my 1600x1200 - can't be changed; too small, etc.
[05:27] <draik> Dr_willis: Yup. k3b worked nicely
[05:27] <orangey> how do I undo that, or otherwise file my grievance?
[05:27] <makuseru> what would be a good program to split a avi or mpeg into two parts?
[05:27] <neoncode> The nForce 680i chipset motherboards use intel HDA audio. Does Linux support that?
[05:27] <draik> Now if I can get something to do a copy of a DVD that was burned directly from a DVR for me
[05:28] <morphinex> hey folks, seem to be having a grub problem
[05:28] <makuseru> get the super grub disk
[05:29] <morphinex> what is that?
[05:29] <Dr_willis> heh - we could ask what the problem is. with grub first. :)
[05:29] <makuseru> replaces/fixes grubs
[05:30] <draik> !beryl
[05:30] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:30] <morphinex> I have two HD on the secondary ata controller, each with an OS on them - xp and ub. I installed a new hard drive on the primary ata bus, but when grub loads (from the secondary bus) it gives me error 5 when the new HD is plugged in
[05:30] <morphinex> Even though, as far as I know, the primary bus should not be involved at all
[05:31] <makuseru> what would be a good program to split a avi or mpeg into two parts?
[05:31] <bonbonthejon> !grub | morphinex
[05:31] <ubotu> morphinex: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:32] <makuseru> !lilo
[05:32] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[05:33] <nixhex> what is the point of using beryl? all it does is eat up memory and processor...it doesn't keep the system from crashing, make it go faster, or anything useful...so why bother...just to have fancy, useless graphical affect? seems wasteful to me
[05:33] <morphinex> what I don'
[05:33] <morphinex> don't understand is why grub is doing anything with the primary bus
[05:34] <morphinex> that seems to be the problem
[05:34] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  that describes most games as well...
[05:34] <nixcamic> what does kubuntu use to automount usb drives?
[05:34] <nixhex> dr_willis: but games are not a constant
[05:35] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:35] <mortici> lol
[05:35] <mortici> ive been playing EVE online :D
[05:36] <makuseru> can someone please help me split a avi into two parts
[05:37] <bearcdst> umm im new to linux/ kunbuntu and i just updated all the software on my desktop and in the grub boot loader it shows Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-28-386 and 2.6.15-26-386 how do i remove the older one if posable
[05:37] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  a lot will depend on the codec the avi is using is my guess.. ive never had much luck with editing avi's at all.
[05:38] <makuseru> well i can convert to any format, but im mainly working with mpegs and avis
[05:38] <Jucato> bearcdst: you uninstall it with the package manager (Adept). but it's a good idea to keep at least 2 working kernels installed, as backup
[05:38] <bearcdst> ok. thanks
[05:38] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  try loading up kino yet?
[05:38] <makuseru> i could never get kino to open a mpg, mpeg, or avi
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Yep.. neither could i.
[05:39] <makuseru> thought it was just for dv video
[05:39] <Dr_willis> that was a codec issue i think..
[05:39] <Dr_willis> convert the avi to dv video then? :)
[05:39] <Dr_willis> I tend to just watch video...
[05:39] <makuseru> not one of my converters choices
[05:39] <makuseru> i have to burn the video to a cd
[05:39] <makuseru> to watch in school
[05:39] <Dr_willis> DVD? or VCD?
[05:39] <makuseru> VCD
[05:40] <makuseru> K3B dosnt like my dvd burner
[05:40] <makuseru> so it just wastes all my dvds
[05:40] <makuseru> but itll do vcds fine, but i need to split the file
[05:40] <nixcamic> where can i go to get an answer to a question noone on here knows?
[05:41] <makuseru> fourms
[05:41] <nixcamic> k
[05:42] <makuseru> Dr_willis: any ideas?
[05:42] <nonuda_> i have succed booting from hdd, but the ubuntu installer said that it can't find the iso image, infact i already put an iso image in d: partiton, help pleae
[05:42] <Dr_willis> nope. I dont screw with that stuff.
[05:42] <nixcamic> which forums are the offical kubuntu forums?
[05:42] <makuseru> ubuntu
[05:42] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  you are trying to install from a .iso file on a ntfs partition?
[05:42] <nonuda_> from fat32
[05:43] <nonuda_> i create an iso image using nero from kubuntu disc
[05:43] <Dr_willis> dare we ask why you are doing it this way and not using the cdrom?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> im not even sure it Can be installed from a .iso file.
[05:44] <nonuda_> the guide said it can..
[05:44] <Dr_willis> which guide is this?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> you are proberly the first ive ever heard trying it.
[05:44] <mzanfardino> I'm trying to configure my kubuntu edgy with nvidia gfx 5600 video for twinview display.  Can someone provide a link to a good resource?
[05:44] <bobstro> you can mount an iso image, so it *should* work. can't say i've tried it though.
[05:44] <nixhex> but whats the point of doing it that way? that could have some bad repracautions
[05:44] <Dr_willis> mzanfardino,  just a min...
[05:45] <mzanfardino> Dr_willis: thank you (btw, I have already installed the latest nvidia driver and have a dual-desktop configuration working...)
[05:45] <Dr_willis> mzanfardino,  #1 - BACKUP your existing xorg.conf
[05:45] <mzanfardino> Dr_willis: I'm just interested in comparing the dual-desktop to a single, twinview desktop
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Then check out the command..   nvidia-xconfig  -A
[05:46] <Dr_willis> that 'should' be able to set up the various things for you automaticially
[05:46] <Dr_willis> read the help carefully
[05:46] <nonuda_> when the installer mount the hd i seen that it mounting hda1, 2 etc...but i wonder why it can't find the iso file
[05:46] <Dr_willis> also a good example site/docs is       http://gentoo-wiki.com/Twinview_Example
[05:46] <mzanfardino> Dr_willis: sadly I don't have nvidia_xconfig ....
[05:47] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  try cding over to the thing and see what files are there.
[05:47] <mzanfardino> Dr_willis: but I suppose I can apt-get it
[05:47] <Dr_willis> mzanfardino,  install it? :) its in the repos.
[05:47] <Dr_willis> heh
[05:47] <Dr_willis> i though it was included with the nvidia-glx packages
[05:48] <mzanfardino> Dr_willis: guess not.  But as I've said, I've installed the latest driver from nvidia (build it into the kernel) so it might not have come across when I did all that...
[05:48] <Dr_willis> the 2 main options are   -a, --enable-all-gpus, and     --twinview/--no-twinview
[05:48] <milardovich> hi, can sb help me?
[05:49] <nixhex> dr_willis: that might not work install nvidia-xconfig
[05:49] <milardovich> sory for my bad english but in kubuntu-es channel nobody help me
[05:49] <nonuda_> i'm in ubuntu installer main menu, and i want to execute a shell command, how to mount hdd and see its contents?
[05:49] <milardovich> im from argentina
[05:49] <nixhex> dr_willis: it may remove nvidia-glx
[05:49] <Dr_willis> nonuda_, try alt-ctrl-F2 to get to a shell?
[05:50] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  i got them both installed.. i think.. let me see
[05:50] <nixhex> dr_willis: nvidia-settings is what you use
[05:50] <milardovich> well i run dist-upgrade on my dapper today and i wait and wait and when its finish i have the edgy eft version
[05:50] <mzanfardino> well, here goes nothing
[05:50] <nonuda_> ok, now i'm in ~# prompt
[05:50] <milardovich> everything was fine
[05:50] <milardovich> but when i wish go to the desk, there is a black window
[05:51] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Ok.. this is odd.. i dont have the 'nvidia-xconfig' package installed..  You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:01] <nixhex> milardovich: or close to
[06:01] <draik> !food
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about food - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <draik> !eat
[06:01] <milardovich> nixhex argentine
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <draik> !snack
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <draik> !treat
[06:01] <milardovich> mayusculas > capital letters
[06:01] <Jucato> draik: please
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about treat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <draik> Jucato: How do I feed ubotu?
[06:02] <firecrotch> !botsnack
[06:02] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:02] <draik> Thank you Lindsey Lohan
[06:02] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, mount /dev/hda2 /hd-media failed: invalid argument
[06:02] <nixhex> milardovich: oh well then, could try the spanish channel...but is it not recognizing your login?
[06:02] <milardovich> firecrotch mayusculas > capital letters
[06:03] <milardovich> no nixhex i-ve tried with the spanish and the argentinian channel
[06:03] <firecrotch> draik: no no no no no
[06:03] <milardovich> and no one help me
[06:03] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  thses are ntfs or vfat drives ? you may need to tell them the filesystem type
[06:03] <milardovich> !!! 10 hours waiting!!! only listen music, playing my guitar and using firefox
[06:03] <firecrotch> milardovich: Does it say anything after you try to login?
[06:03] <milardovich> for nopthing?
[06:03] <nonuda_> fat32
[06:03] <Dr_willis> lets see aht that url is i have..
[06:03] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[06:03] <nonuda_> ok thakns
[06:04] <Dr_willis> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t vfat -r
[06:04] <milardovich> firecrotch, milardovich login :
[06:04] <milardovich> that
[06:04] <Dr_willis> scratch the -r part. :)
[06:04] <draik> firecrotch: huh?
[06:04] <nixhex> milardovich: ok, but when you try to login, does it give an error?
[06:05] <firecrotch> draik: the Lindsey Lohan comment you made... :(
[06:05] <milardovich> nixhex yes, i cant remeber what
[06:05] <draik> firecrotch: oh... LOL
[06:05] <milardovich> but there is smth like loging error
[06:05] <milardovich> or password wrong
[06:05] <intelikey> scratch the -t part also
[06:05] <milardovich> or milardovich loging error
[06:05] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, No Such file or directory
[06:05] <firecrotch> milardovich: Then your password is wrong
[06:05] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  yes.. the mountpoint MUST exist beforhand....
[06:06] <nixhex> milardovich: try booting into failsafe, through the grub menu
[06:06] <Dr_willis> make the dir if needed. :)
[06:06] <nonuda_> ok, mkdir right?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> Yep.. Linux 101 :)
[06:06] <milardovich> no nixhex xD the boot menu can left me do it
[06:06] <milardovich> oly its boots
[06:06] <milardovich> but wait i triy to prerss scape before the grub loading
[06:06] <milardovich> <(
[06:06] <milardovich> maybe it will work
[06:07] <milardovich> i see you soon only 3 or 5 minutes
[06:07] <milardovich> bye
[06:07] <nonuda_> now it said : No such devices
[06:07] <Mena> Helloooo!
[06:07] <ExpositionOfEvil> HI!
[06:08] <nixhex> ok....well he better know the commands to fix X and change his password or it won't be of any use
[06:08] <intelikey> nonuda_ to discover what device node.    sudo fdisk -l
[06:08] <nonuda_> ok
[06:09] <ExpositionOfEvil> LoL
[06:09] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, /bis/sh: sudo not found
[06:09] <nonuda_> bis=bin
[06:09] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  ok.. what kind of messed up system you got booting anyway? :)
[06:10] <intelikey> prolly ubuntu ////
[06:10] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, i was trying to install kubuntu without cdrom
[06:10] <ExpositionOfEvil> utbunu
[06:10] <ExpositionOfEvil> 7.04!!
[06:10] <ExpositionOfEvil> zmog!
[06:10] <ExpositionOfEvil> me wnat it!
[06:11] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  and what did you 'boot' to do this?
[06:11] <underzr0> Hey
[06:12] <Mena> Dr_Willis, Ubuntu is based on kde and kubuntu based on ubuntu or thw both hey are based on kde i dont know ??? :)
[06:12] <nonuda_> i download the Ubuntu installer
[06:12] <intelikey> neither is "based on kde"
[06:12] <LeeJunFan> Mena: ubuntu = gnome by default, kubuntu = kde by default
[06:12] <Mena> intelikey, ok
[06:13] <nonuda_> inslinuxCDROMUbuntu_6
[06:13] <Mena> leejunFan, ok
[06:13] <makuseru> how can i split an mpeg into two parts?
[06:13] <SkidMark11212121> does anyone know how to get the time back on the panel?
[06:13] <LeeJunFan> !info avidemux | makuseru
[06:13] <ubotu> makuseru: avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2738 kB, installed size 6956 kB
[06:13] <SkidMark11212121> i deleted it and it's starting to be so annoying
[06:13] <Mena> SkidMark112121. is an applet
[06:14] <LeeJunFan> makuseru: should work with mpeg too, I use it for a bunch of video types.
[06:14] <SkidMark11212121> where is it located?
[06:14] <Jucato> SkidMark11212121: right-click on the panel -> Add Applet to Panel -> Clock
[06:14] <Mena> SkidMark112121. if you wont to add do this rightclicl on panle >>>>add applet>>>clock
[06:14] <SkidMark11212121> got it
[06:14] <SkidMark11212121> thanks guys
[06:14] <Mena> panel*
[06:15] <SkidMark11212121> i tried to add the applet but i couldn't find the clock
[06:15] <makuseru> i just downloaded that, but it seems useless, no cut, copy, edit anyting
[06:15] <SkidMark11212121> will kubuntu have any issues with the daylight savings time change?
[06:15] <intelikey> Mena ubuntu is the linux distrobution name.  kubuntu is short for ubuntu + kde   or  package name  kubuntu-desktop added to the ubuntu os.   ubuntu (as an installation) is short for ubuntu + gnome   or  ubuntu-desktop added to the ubuntu os.   if that helps you to understand how it works.
[06:15] <underzr0> hello
[06:15] <LeeJunFan> makuseru: you can probably find packages for cinelerra if you google for it. I don't think it's in the repos, and I don't think there are feisty packages for it yet.
[06:15] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, i got it from http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/instlux
[06:16] <SkidMark11212121> will ubuntu have any issues with the daylight savings time issue
[06:16] <ltdubdeuce> good question
[06:17] <Dr_willis> SkidMark11212121, it shoud NOT have any issues
[06:17] <Dr_willis> SkidMark11212121,  if you are updated
[06:17] <intelikey> Mena as also xubuntu   is xfce4 + ubuntu   or  the xubuntu-desktop package added to the ubuntu os
[06:18] <intelikey> i realize that i'm not being very technical about that, but it's the concept i'm trying to convay, and not the specifics.
[06:18] <Dr_willis> SkidMark11212121,  i saw an artical on it just today. :)
[06:19] <Mena> intelikey, hmmm thanks :)
[06:19] <SkidMark11212121> i wonder why people are spending so much $$ updating ms servers
[06:19] <Dr_willis> SkidMark11212121,  try  zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007
[06:19] <Dr_willis>
[06:19] <intelikey> SkidMark11212121 cause M$ is all they know...
[06:19] <Dr_willis> SkidMark11212121,  because they dident use a flexable system for the timezone files/method.
[06:20] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, i follow the guide from this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[06:21] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  wow :) the first method basicially says.. go get  Instlux i http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/instlux.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> heh heh..
[06:21] <SkidMark11212121> hmm didn't find anything
[06:22] <Mena> intelikey, Do you have any idea why i cant conect to my gmail account with jabber and i set the conection as on the page of Gmail Hlep
[06:22] <Mena> help*
[06:22] <Mena> intelikey, there is no reply on kopete so i asked
[06:22] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, so?
[06:22] <intelikey> Mena no i don't.   sorry not my feild.
[06:22] <root> im in edgy
[06:22] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  some guide. :)
[06:23] <Mena> intelikey, ok no porb
[06:23] <root> i love you firecrotch
[06:23] <root> i love you kubuntu
[06:23] <root> i love you fuking 10 hours lost
[06:23] <Lord_Maynoth> lol
[06:23] <nonuda_> ok then
[06:23] <SkidMark11212121> i love kubuntu because i'm downloading at 952 kb/s right now
[06:23] <firecrotch> You're welcome, root!
[06:23] <SkidMark11212121> and i never get that in windows
[06:24] <root> im milardovich firecrotch
[06:24] <root> fuck im with root excelent
[06:24] <root> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:24] <SkidMark11212121> wow
[06:24] <SkidMark11212121> how did it let u on?
[06:25] <firecrotch> Oh, and here I was thinking that random people were swooning over me
[06:25] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  part of the issue MAY be that that isntaller program is like.. old...    	instluxCDROMUbuntu6_06.exe
[06:25] <Dr_willis> i still like you firecrotch
[06:25] <firecrotch> <3 Dr_willis :)
[06:26] <nixhex> milardovich: did you resetup X? and did you know how to change your password?
[06:26] <nonuda_> Dr_willis, ok, any suggestion how to install kubuntu in my laptop which has no cdrom?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  got a spare pc?
[06:26] <SkidMark11212121> have a usb port?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> and a network.
[06:26] <nonuda_> yup yup and yup
[06:26] <firecrotch> nonuda_: External CD-ROM drive?
[06:26] <nonuda_> no external cdrom drive
[06:26] <Dr_willis> use the netboot method then?
[06:27] <Lord_Maynoth> how do I determine what my kde directory is?
[06:27] <nonuda_> oh sorry no network
[06:27] <SkidMark11212121> uhm
[06:27] <Dr_willis> you do have part of your hd unallocated and ready for linux to install to?
[06:27] <SkidMark11212121> floppy drive?
[06:27] <firecrotch> Lord_Maynoth: it's ~/.kde
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Or just go the 'use vmware' route...
[06:27] <nonuda_> yes i already create a 2 partition for lt
[06:28] <nonuda_> floppy drive yes
[06:28] <SkidMark11212121> make a boot disk
[06:28] <SkidMark11212121> haha i dunno if you can eeven do that
[06:28] <Lord_Maynoth> /home/username/.kde?
[06:28] <milardovich> nixhex im only press scape and choose the recovery mode
[06:28] <milardovich> and im on edgy now
[06:28] <milardovich> :)))
[06:29] <SkidMark11212121> maybe u could    make a boot disk and load the cd files to another partition
[06:29] <nonuda_> lol, but i already can boot from hdd
[06:29] <SkidMark11212121> but u gotta boot the install process
[06:30] <SkidMark11212121> awww now ifeel better just did the timzone update
[06:30] <nonuda_> hmmm...why linux is so hard? huh :(
[06:30] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  i find it rather easy..
[06:31] <Dr_willis> you are blaming linux because you got  aodd hardware setup
[06:31] <nonuda_> yeah if you have it all
[06:31] <intelikey> nonuda_ "hmmm...why linux is so hard? huh :("    heh try installing windows xp on that box with no cdrom   :)
[06:31] <nixhex> anyone know how to setup samba to make it so that anyone on my network that wants to use my internet has to login?
[06:31] <Mena> !ubuto|Mena
[06:31] <Dr_willis> i'd just use it in vmware... :) but i like vmware
[06:31] <nonuda_> its easy,,,i have tried that
[06:32] <Lord_Maynoth> /usr/local/lib/kde3?  is that the correct one or is /home/lordmaynoth/.kde the kde directory
[06:32] <Lord_Maynoth> sorry im a n00b
[06:32] <SkidMark11212121> i did it the other day to a hp pro liant server
[06:32] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  samba dosent share the 'internet'  it has file/folder shares.
[06:32] <nonuda_> use the boot disk from win98
[06:32] <SkidMark11212121> but i had a usb cd rom
[06:32] <SkidMark11212121> and a file server
[06:32] <intelikey> nonuda_ just booting a floppy doesn't get it installed...
[06:33] <nixhex> dr_willis: ok, not samba, I don't care, I just want to make it so that anyone that wants use my internet has to login
[06:33] <nonuda_> ok then i'm out...
[06:33] <nonuda_> thanks guys
[06:34] <intelikey> you had to make a partition then a file system then copy all the files needed over onto that fs "some how" and then run the installer.    the same basic process will work for linux.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  login to like a proxy?
[06:35] <nonuda_> yes i know...but still i find its hard with linux coz i'm new
[06:36] <nixhex> dr_willis: hmmm proxy may work
[06:36] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  transparent proxy perhaos even..
[06:36] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  how 'else' you going to get a login from them. :)
[06:36] <intelikey> nonuda_ you can install minimal  onto another box  and tarball that installation then copy the tarball over and untar it.   edit /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/devices and install grub to the mbr.
[06:37] <intelikey> badabing youre installed.
[06:38] <intelikey> i have used that methood on a lappy with no cdrom and no network.    floppy install of a modern linux system onto an old 486 lappy.
[06:38] <Lord_Maynoth> thanks firecrotch
[06:38] <nonuda_> ok...thanks, even i dunno know how to do what u have told me...but thanks anyway...i'm out
[06:38] <Lord_Maynoth> is there a variable I can use to make it automatically find the default one if giving a friend instructions?
[06:39] <intelikey> nonuda seems to have finally fessed up.  "in over head !"
[06:39] <Dr_willis> heh.
[06:39] <firecrotch> Lord_Maynoth: no problem
[06:39] <Dr_willis> well i i was about to suggest he get an older ubuntu and use that instthang tool..
[06:39] <Dr_willis> but i dont trust a tool that installs linux fromwhithn windows.
[06:39] <Dr_willis> and vmware would of worked fine. :)  heh
[06:40] <intelikey> yeah there are several ways to get there.
[06:40] <Lord_Maynoth> firecrotch: will ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR  automatically pick my kde directory for me?
[06:41] <nixhex> !squib
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about squib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <nixhex> !squid
[06:41] <ubotu> squid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-3ubuntu1.2 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[06:41] <SkidMark11212121> eh if he really wants to install it he will figure it out
[06:42] <Dr_willis> SkidMark11212121,  im not sure he does...
[06:42] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:42] <firecrotch> Lord_Maynoth: I have no clue about any of that
[06:42] <Lord_Maynoth> kk
[06:42] <Lord_Maynoth> thanks
[06:42] <SkidMark11212121> if he wants to install linux cause some hacker book told him thats what u need he''ll never learn
[06:43] <Dr_willis> he could get a usb key and install puppy linux to it. :) or dsl
[06:43] <intelikey> methinks he wants one of those pointy clicky thingies to do it for him
[06:43] <SkidMark11212121> hey i love pointing and clicking
[06:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:44] <SkidMark11212121> haha
[06:44] <nixhex> dr_willis: ok, do know of any how-tos? cause I can't find anything on getting a proxy setup
[06:44] <SkidMark11212121> i dunno as long as u know whats going on behind the pointing and clicking i think it's ok
[06:44] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  should be documents all over
[06:44] <Dr_willis> !proxy
[06:44] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[06:44] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[06:45] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[06:45] <Dr_willis> thats an odd factoid. :)
[06:45] <Dr_willis> !find proxy
[06:45] <ubotu> Found: python-egenix-mxproxy, smproxy, anon-proxy, apt-proxy, connect-proxy (and 20 others)
[06:45] <Dr_willis> !info anon-proxy
[06:45] <ubotu> anon-proxy: Proxy to surf the web anonymously. In component universe, is optional. Version 00.02.39-8.1 (edgy), package size 112 kB, installed size 328 kB
[06:46] <Dr_willis> last proxy i messed with was Privoxy and 'TOR'
[06:46] <Dr_willis> !info privoxy
[06:46] <ubotu> privoxy: Privacy enhancing HTTP Proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.3-2-1 (edgy), package size 830 kB, installed size 2160 kB
[06:46] <nixhex> dr_willis: yes, well, I know of those..just no how-tos to set it up so ppl have to login to use internet
[06:46] <Dr_willis> there may be others
[06:46] <Dr_willis> you set up the proxy settings where they need to login....
[06:46] <Dr_willis> what more is there then that.. :)
[06:47] <SkidMark11212121> !info
[06:47] <ubotu> info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 159 kB, installed size 328 kB
[06:48] <b0rted> hi there
[06:48] <SkidMark11212121> yo
[06:48] <b0rted> how to install the hotplug system?
[06:48] <b0rted> O.o
[06:49] <b0rted> its supposed to have the /lib/hotplug ?
[06:49] <Dr_willis> egads use  apt:\ in konqueror and search for proxy.. thers a LOT of them in there..
[06:49] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:49] <Dr_willis> simpleproxy  Simple TCP proxy
[06:49] <b0rted> please any1 know about hotplug?
[06:49] <intelikey> that's also a wierd page http://tor.unixgu.ru/
[06:50] <seven11> does anyone know how to set up apache on my box so someone can log in and uploade some files on my server
[06:50] <Dr_willis> tor is fun to learn about
[06:50] <Jucato> Dr_willis: apt:/
[06:51] <intelikey> seven11 wouldn't an ftp server be better for that
[06:51] <Jucato> !tor
[06:51] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[06:51] <Jucato> bah...
[06:51] <intelikey> factoid name is  !proxy
[06:51] <seven11> intelikey: vsftp ?
[06:51] <intelikey> yeah or ncftp
[06:52] <intelikey> or any other that you like
[06:52] <Jucato> !proxy
[06:52] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[06:52] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[06:52] <Jucato> oh there
[06:52] <seven11> thanks intelikey
[06:53] <intelikey> don't blame me until you get it all streight,  it was just a question.
[06:53] <nixhex> think apache-ssl would work?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. perhaps i am mistaken.. and you dont login to a proxy server. but some other thing like it.. silly work pc's are always asking for a login to get to 'non-business' sites
[06:54] <intelikey> might.  cgi probably would   php   but still an ftp server was made for     well ftp.
[06:54] <makuseru> how can i split an mpeg into two parts?
[06:55] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  egads :)
[06:55] <intelikey> makuseru define split ?
[06:55] <nixhex> privoxy might work
[06:55] <Lord_Maynoth> hello the guys in the kde channel said that /usr is the default kde directory for (k)ubuntu can anyone verify this?  Thanks in advance
[06:55] <makuseru> i need it in two parts to get on two cds
[06:55] <intelikey> if all you want is to bisection the file for what ever cause   dd
[06:56] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  i dont see where you keep a user/password list for that one.. or for tinyproxy. they can be set to allow netmask/ip-ranges however
[06:56] <Jucato> !register > cj__
[06:56] <nixhex> dr_willis well in the discription apt gives it says "access control"
[06:57] <intelikey> makuseru set the block size and count and dd the first part to a file then with the same settings add a skip of the first number of blocks and dd the last section to another file    man dd
[06:57] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  right.. and from what im checking in the docs it controlsl by ip-range not a login. thats what got me thinking of the socks stuff.
[06:57] <makuseru> intelikey: dd?
[06:57] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  Squid is also a common proxy
[06:57] <intelikey> man dd
[06:57] <makuseru> k
[06:58] <nixhex> dr_willis: hmm...needs to be login
[06:58] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  keep looking then i guess... i dont see the point. :) but whatever.. heh
[06:58] <Dr_willis> im checking each proxy's homepage. to see what features they got
[06:59] <intelikey> apt-cache search proxy | grep login
[06:59] <nixhex> dr_willis: lol the point is so I can know who is using my internet...and also use linux machine as a firewall
[06:59] <intelikey> spikeproxy - Web application security testing proxy
[07:00] <intelikey> that's all that returns.  and i had to invert the search for that.
[07:00] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  you expecting a lot of people sneaking about?
[07:00] <Dr_willis> squid has a snot load of features it seems..   http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/SquidAcl
[07:00] <makuseru> intelikey: how do i find out what blocks are what
[07:01] <Dr_willis> Another option is to use proxy-authentication. In this scheme, you assign usernames and passwords to individuals. When they first use the proxy they are asked to authenticate themselves by entering their username and password.
[07:01] <nixhex> dr_willis: people come and go, also I have wireless
[07:01] <Dr_willis> nixhex,  thats.. scary...
[07:01] <Dr_willis> i rember why i ran wires...
[07:01] <Dr_willis> looks liek the   "proxy-authentication" is a feature you are wanting
[07:02] <intelikey> makuseru you don't you arbitrarrly set the size and count according to the desired output file size.
[07:03] <Dr_willis> squid looks a little over my head for that stuff. :) good luck.
[07:03] <moparisthebest> does anyone have experiance with synaptic touchpads and kubuntu?
[07:03] <makuseru> intelikey: huh?
[07:03] <Dr_willis> its sleepy time for me.
[07:03] <Dr_willis> moparisthebest,  they work fine for me. :)
[07:03] <intelikey> makuseru bs=1024 count=650000    for example.
[07:03] <nixhex> dr_willis: yeah...thanks
[07:03] <moparisthebest> I installed ksynaptics and when I run the configuration I get this windows:
[07:03] <moparisthebest> http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1179/err6rzg6.png
[07:03] <Dr_willis> moparisthebest,  thers that ksynaptic tool. and i think it needed  a edit to the xorg.conf to work properly however
[07:03] <makuseru> how do i caculate all that?
[07:04] <moparisthebest> thats what the error is saying Dr_willis, but I cant find anywhere that tells me what to edit
[07:04] <Dr_willis> moparisthebest,  yes.. thats it.. you got no clue what its saying i bet? :)
[07:04] <intelikey> with a calculator maybe ?
[07:04] <Dr_willis> In the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[07:04] <makuseru> i mean what do i do to caculate
[07:04] <moparisthebest> Ive got that open Dr_willis with root permmission
[07:05] <Dr_willis> there should be a 'touchpad' input device -
[07:05] <Dr_willis> put the  line
[07:05] <Kite_DH> erm
[07:05] <intelikey> bs=1024 means  1k block size  and  count=650000  means 650k of those 1k blocks   ie 650m    should fit on any cd.
[07:05] <Dr_willis> option "SCHMconfig" "on"
[07:05] <Dr_willis> i think in there. This is proberly discussed in detail on the forums/wiki pages..
[07:06] <Dr_willis> not on mylaptop so i cant tell yamuch more
[07:06] <moparisthebest> there is no touchpad section Dr_willis , just a mouse section
[07:06] <makuseru> intelikey: oh, so 1 block = 1 k.....roughly?
[07:06] <moparisthebest> well, 'inputdevice' Dr_willis
[07:06] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/15/fixing-my-alps-touchpad-with-the-synaptics-driver/
[07:06] <Dr_willis> gives an example
[07:07] <intelikey> no you set the block size with the bs=    by default  512 bytes per block.
[07:07] <Dr_willis> you proberly dont need ALL the options they use in the example
[07:07] <moparisthebest> yep, I was actually on that site but didnt know where to put that
[07:07] <moparisthebest> can I just copy and paste it into xorg.conf?
[07:07] <Dr_willis> find the   Section InputDevice
[07:08] <Dr_willis> for your touchpad
[07:08] <moparisthebest> or do I have to remove something I already have
[07:08] <moparisthebest> ok, I assume it is 'mouse'
[07:08] <Dr_willis> Hmmm.. shouldent be..
[07:08] <intelikey> makuseru you could use   bs=681574400 count=1   if you wanted.
[07:08] <Dr_willis> look for the ------> Driver          "synaptics" line
[07:08] <Dr_willis> put  Option "SHMConfig" "true"  rigjht below it
[07:09] <moparisthebest> there is none
[07:09] <moparisthebest> thats the first thing I searched for
[07:09] <intelikey> although i would not recommend bs larger than the fs standard,  for iso9660 i think that's 1k
[07:09] <Dr_willis> make a new input device section for it then i guess.. using that site as an example
[07:09] <intelikey> someone else can correct that.
[07:10] <moparisthebest> http://rafb.net/p/ScFclo87.html that is xorg.conf Dr_willis
[07:10] <Dr_willis> you may need to also edit the serverlayout line.
[07:10] <moparisthebest> ok, Ill give it a try, I made a backup just in case :)
[07:11] <Dr_willis> under serverlayout you WILL need to add a new entry for your newly created touchpad.
[07:11] <Dr_willis> InputDevice	"touchpad"  (or whteger ya call it)
[07:12] <intelikey> makuseru the reason that dd defaults to 512 bytes per block when no bs= is used, is because that's the block size for the ole floppy disk.  and should be the smallest block size used by any modern fs.
[07:12] <makuseru> ok, my file is 1 005 670.4kb, so hald of that is 502835.2kb..... so i could do "bs=502835.2 count=1
[07:12] <makuseru> would that make sence?
[07:12] <makuseru> half*
[07:12] <moparisthebest> ok Dr_willis, Ill try it out, thanks
[07:12] <Dr_willis> moparisthebest,  the 'longer' example on that url. is the one you want to use i guess..    http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/15/fixing-my-alps-touchpad-with-the-synaptics-driver/
[07:13] <moparisthebest> ok
[07:13] <intelikey> makuseru you could but why split it in the middle  the decimal may cause trubble there.
[07:14] <Dr_willis>     and use a                                InputDevice     "Alps Touchpad"  "SendCoreEvents"          line under serverlayout
[07:14] <Dr_willis> night all.
[07:14] <makuseru> im splitting the middle just so its even, cause the movie is 2 hours
[07:14] <makuseru> so one hour each cd
[07:15] <intelikey> makuseru NO !     won't work for that.   you will have to use some other app.
[07:15] <makuseru> aaaaaaaaaah
[07:15] <makuseru> NOW you tell me
[07:15] <makuseru> who wouldnt it
[07:16] <makuseru> why
[07:16] <intelikey> thought you just wanted it on disk.  you want to actually have two independantly usable files.    that's not the same as just spliting a file.    you have to have the header on both copies.
[07:16] <makuseru> any recommendations?
[07:17] <kungfugoat> can anyone tell me why system monitor is showing cpu1 and cpu2 at 100%?
[07:17] <intelikey> something that can play it and record part one and part two from the playing.
[07:17] <makuseru> what does that?
[07:17] <intelikey> makuseru there may be an app.  idk.
[07:18] <makuseru> well thanks anyway
[07:18] <intelikey> makuseru ffr.  when someone asks what you want to do with it.    be specific.  :)
[07:18] <intelikey> saves time.
[07:18] <nixhex> makuseru intelikey Mencoder won't work?
[07:19] <intelikey> nixhex if you can get it to, help makuseru out.
[07:19] <nixhex> intelikey: lol I don't I was just reading a forum and someone said it can
[07:19] <makuseru> i read the manual for ffmpeg but saw nothing about splitting the file up
[07:21] <intelikey> i don't know what mencoder can/can't do.   jsut know why normal spliting of a file wont work on that level.
[07:23] <thomas_> wtf happened to adept? How do I get the old adept back?
[07:24] <nixhex> too bad nero doesn't have all the features it does in windows...cause if it did, it would so simple for makuseru
[07:24] <nixhex> thomas_: what are talking about?
[07:24] <nixhex> thomas_: you want synaptic? then install it
[07:25] <thomas_> nixhex: nah, I liked how adept used to be, with its list interface, etc. Is there a way to view that again? The new version prevents the listing of libraries and stuff
[07:25] <thomas_> at least, at first glance it does
[07:26] <nixhex> thomas_: ah...it does list
[07:26] <nixhex> thomas_: what did you just upgrade from?
[07:27] <intelikey> and to
[07:27] <thomas_> I'm in feisty, just did a dist-upgrade
[07:28] <intelikey> thomas_ that may not be adept  maybe kpackage or something.   check that it's the same app
[07:28] <nixhex> adept hasn't changed much in way of looks for a while
[07:28] <intelikey> kpkg
[07:28] <thomas_> nope, I'm pretty sure. I've always had adept, and what not. It's always had the list on the bottom, etc.
[07:29] <nixhex> thomas_: you are probably not using adept, cause the GUI hasn't changed...I have a feisty machine
[07:29] <thomas_> I must have been on crack ever since I've using kde, then
[07:30] <intelikey> you can ask in #kubuntu+1   i haven't seen feisty.  and probably never will.
[07:30] <thomas_> cool, will do
[07:30] <nixhex> its #ubuntu+1 there isn't a Kubuntu+1...I've tried
[07:30] <intelikey> ok  #ubuntu+1
[07:31] <intelikey> habit adding the k now days
[07:31] <nixhex> yeah
[07:35] <nixhex> ooooohhh how do I change the theme adept uses
[07:36] <nixhex> like the screen shots here: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=44909
[07:37] <nixhex> guess its the system theme
[07:37] <Jucato> nixhex: run System Settings as root (kdesu systemsettings). if you change the Color scheme and Styles in there, it will affect the appearance of apps that will run as root
[07:38] <nixhex> jucato: yeah, just haven't had any luck with all that
[07:38] <posingaspopular> nixhex: whats the problem?
[07:40] <nixhex> it screws up my screen when I do it...doesn't seem like my resolution or something
[07:49] <ForgeAus> is there a way to bypass ntldr and/or Grub (ie put a linux boot string into ntldr's boot.ini or put a more direct load of XP/2k/NT in NTLDR)
[07:50] <ForgeAus> oops in grub should have been on the end
[07:52] <seven11> intelikey: sorry !! how would someone from the internet log on the vsftp?
[07:56] <epimeth> ahoy landlubbers!
[07:56] <epimeth> !he
[07:56] <ubotu>         :
[07:56] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[07:57] <milardovich> somebody knows the gekko cms?
[07:57] <milardovich> write on php?
[07:57] <milardovich> i write a script that make the gekko styles compatibles with kleophatra: my own cms
[07:58] <milardovich> please check www.milardovich.com.ar and left your opinion
[07:58] <milardovich> about my protect
[07:58] <milardovich> kleophatra is writed on kubuntu, with php, apache and mysql
[07:59] <aphroguy> Greetings, testing IRC with GAIM.  How's everyone tonight?
[07:59] <hyper_ch> hiho, how can I find out what users are logged in on my system at the moment?
[08:00] <nino> !mp3
[08:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:00] <nino> !win32 codecs
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <nino> !win32codecs
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <Jucato> !w32codecs > nino
[08:01] <nixhex> now this is pretty picture: http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=12849&file1=12849-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=FreeBSD+Theme
[08:01] <nino> cool! thx man
[08:01] <ForgeAus> yeah PC-BSD's theme is great, so a freebsd theme should be kewl
[08:02] <nixhex> BSD has the best look
[08:02] <aphroguy> Who in here would be the question-answerer?
[08:02] <ForgeAus> aphro there are many
[08:02] <ForgeAus> question answerers here
[08:03] <posingaspopular> !anyone
[08:03] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:03] <ForgeAus> I have even been known to answer a few...
[08:03] <nino> Its been a while since I was on Linux,  had to wait for feisty, my Core2 would not install other distros!
[08:03] <Xerroz> ubotu: People probably feel rude asking outright. Besides that would make life far to easy
[08:03] <ForgeAus> nino thats strange
[08:04] <Jucato> !bot | Xerroz
[08:04] <ubotu> Xerroz: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:04] <nino> yea not even suse 10.1 would work lol
[08:04] <Xerroz> meh
[08:04] <Xerroz> :)
[08:04] <posingaspopular> !botsnack
[08:04] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:04] <ForgeAus> eek Suse! no thanx
[08:04] <Hasrat_USA> if kde 3.5.6 is out, then why am i not getting update notification in my system tray in KDE yet?
[08:04] <Jucato> Hasrat_USA: are you on Dapper or Edgy?
[08:04] <Hasrat_USA> edgy
[08:05] <nino> lol its all good now im back with my fav distro !!
[08:05] <Jucato> Hasrat_USA: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[08:05] <posingaspopular> nino: good stuff
[08:05] <nixhex> !source-o-matic  > hasrat_USA
[08:05] <ForgeAus> !botsnack
[08:05] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:05] <darksider415> !botsnack
[08:05] <ForgeAus> heheh ahh but
[08:05] <ForgeAus> !yum
[08:05] <ubotu> yum: Advanced front-end for rpm. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4.0-3.1 (edgy), package size 197 kB, installed size 960 kB
[08:06] <nixhex> Hasrat_USA: you need to update your sources.list to include the kubuntu repos
[08:06] <ForgeAus> rofl
[08:06] <ray_> What exactly does automatix2 multimedia codecs install? I kinda want to get rid of it but I don't know what codecs it installed so I can't replace it.
[08:06] <aphroguy> Ooookay, well then, ever since I started playing around with Kubuntu (August-ish) I've been looking for a way to implement an "Active Desktop" similar to that of Windoze.  I know that there's the kwebdesktop, which takes a _screenshot_ of an HTML document, but is there a way to get fully-functional HTML?  I've played around with setting a chrome-less Konquerer profile, but there were too many little glitches and idiosyncrasies.  Has anyo
[08:06] <nino> Im conveting my workstations to Linux this year, Vista & Windows had their chance!!
[08:07] <posingaspopular> hahaha windows never had a real chance....
[08:07] <ForgeAus> interesting aphro... I have no idea
[08:07] <nino> People at work are quiet eagar !
[08:07] <nixhex> ray_: it installs w32codecs, gstreamers, and DVD codecs
[08:07] <darksider415> nino: I ran Vista on my notebook for all of six hours before going back to Kubuntu, and it took that long because I had to get home to my Kubuntu disc, first.
[08:07] <ForgeAus> nino imho XP is better than Vista
[08:07] <ray_> ok... thanks
[08:08] <nixhex> ray_: oh and libxine-extracodecs
[08:08] <posingaspopular> nino: check this out. my buddy got a tonload of viruses browsing the net on his windows box. instead of purging the issues, he bought a new vista machine. i got his old computer minus the HD.
[08:08] <posingaspopular> new ubuntu box here we go
[08:08] <Jucato> aphroguy: currently there isn't a way to do that (unless you run a Konqueror window maximized w/ no borders and no menus). but KDE 4 *might* bring in something like that
[08:08] <nino> LOL!!
[08:08] <ray_> ok
[08:08] <nino> dude thats bad!
[08:08] <darksider415> nino: Then again, on my notebook, the standard XP install was never booted...
[08:08] <Jucato> bad for who? :D
[08:08] <ray_> Should I be able to install all of that just from the universe?
[08:09] <Jucato> nixhex: gstreamer will be useless for Kubuntu btw
[08:09] <epimeth> !motorola
[08:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about motorola - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:09] <nino> I run a dual boot, use xp for gaming, and big lans
[08:09] <epimeth> anybody know a program that allows me to sync my v3x with kubuntu?
[08:09] <nino> But im gonna see if i can get wine to run some of my games!!
[08:10] <nixhex> jucato: are sure, then why do so many tutorials call for it?
[08:10] <Jucato> nixhex: most of those tutorials do not consider that Kubuntu uses Xine
[08:10] <epimeth> Jucato: what up?
[08:10] <Jucato> hi epimeth
[08:10] <nino> Its just a matter of time before Linux dominates!!
[08:11] <aphroguy> Jucato: Well then, that's something to look forward to.  How difficult would it be to find the bare HTML parsing engine and set that particular program to display the background.  Do you think any type of hack like that would work?
[08:11] <nixhex> jucato: true, guess I'll remove them and see what happens
[08:11] <darksider415> nino: In which case, I'll have to switch to GNU/Hurd... XP
[08:11] <nino> he he !!
[08:11] <Jucato> aphroguy: how difficult? not difficult. If you know how to program in KDE. the KDE HTML engine is called KHTML
[08:12] <epimeth> anybody know a program i can use to sync my phone (motorola v3x) with Kontact?
[08:12] <cpk1> nino: which games do you want to play?
[08:12] <hyper_ch> hiho, how can I find out what users are logged in on my system at the moment?
[08:12] <nino> Well im a high end gamer, Counter Strike Source, Oblivion, FEAR, TOCA, etc
[08:13] <me2win_> hyper_ch: type in "who" in the command line
[08:13] <me2win_> hyper_ch: or "users"
[08:13] <nino> See windows is built for this type of thing, an nvidia (drivers) are mostly customized for XP
[08:13] <hyper_ch> me2win_: thx :) it say I'm logged in 3 times... twice from home where I am now and once from university... how can I kill those additional logins?
[08:14] <aphroguy> Jucato: Without knowing anything about programming in KDE, my first step would be simply use KHTML as the background display application, and set the preferences to display the desired page.  I'm sure it would be much more complicated than that, however.
[08:14] <cpk1> nino: hrmm I think oblivion can work with much tinkering; there are alot of new games that simply dont run yet on, cedega might have a little more success with newer games but it still is pretty rough
[08:14] <nixhex> jucato: can't remove gstreamer...openoffice seems to use them
[08:14] <epimeth> also, I need to sync my palm with Kontact as well... sooooo what package would that be?
[08:14] <hyper_ch> epimeth: kpilot
[08:14] <Jucato> nixhex: hm... I wonder why. Kubuntu has OO.o installed by default, but not GStreamer :)
[08:15] <cpk1> and not koffice either Jucato? =)
[08:15] <nino> yea, thats why i stick to XP for the games, honestly its not that bad, but VISTA just kills it!!
[08:15] <epimeth> kool... cheers hyper_ch... you wouldn't what what I could use for syncing a motorola v3x, would you?
[08:15] <Jucato> aphroguy: it is more complicated than that, as khtml isn't just a separate standalone program
[08:15] <me2win_> hyper_ch: type who -a and then do a kill on the users pid
[08:15] <Jucato> cpk1: not  *yet* :D
[08:15] <hyper_ch> epimeth: nope, I use kpilot to sync my palm lifedrive with kontact
[08:15] <cpk1> epimeth: is that motorola a cdma phone?
[08:15] <nino> But for my other needs, mutimedia and programming, LINUX rules!!
[08:16] <nixhex> jucato: http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=12849&file1=12849-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=FreeBSD+Theme
[08:16] <aphroguy> Jucato: Figured as much.  Definitely something to start researching though.  I thank you, kind sir, for your helpful words of wisdom. :)
[08:16] <Jucato> nixhex: already saw that
[08:16] <Jucato> :)
[08:16] <epimeth> cpk1: I'm not sure...
[08:17] <posingaspopular> nino: i dont play computer games, never got into it. the only real reason why i still have it on my hd is that windows is holding my music hostage
[08:17] <nixhex> jucato: oops...klipper didn't paste right: http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7756/snapshot1dc6.png
[08:17] <nino> posingaspopular : mp3??
[08:17] <nixhex> jucato: klipper is flakey
[08:18] <posingaspopular> yea
[08:18] <nino> posingaspopular : just copy them over to linux!!
[08:18] <posingaspopular> nino: i did that
[08:18] <Jucato> nixhex: yeah (re klipper)
[08:18] <posingaspopular> i moved them
[08:18] <nino> posingaspopular : and install mp3 support
[08:18] <posingaspopular> my partition wont see the files
[08:18] <posingaspopular> iduno why
[08:18] <nino> permissions!
[08:18] <posingaspopular> ... whatdo you mean
[08:18] <posingaspopular> well specifically
[08:18] <cpk1> I've got a question... in adblock on firefox you can do "overlay flash to block" or somesuch, is there any option like that in konq?
[08:18] <nixhex> jucato: but yeah shows that removing gstreamer wants to remove OO...and some break install
[08:19] <Jucato> nixhex: dunno what's causing that though
[08:19] <posingaspopular> i moved the files from ntfs to ext3 using a windows freeware app called fs-driver
[08:19] <nino> posingaspopular : dit you copy them to a specific folder?
[08:19] <Jucato> nixhex: ah wait
[08:19] <nino> posingaspopular : dit you copy them to a specific folder?
[08:19] <posingaspopular> yea
[08:19] <posingaspopular> what happens is that fs-driver treats the linux partition as a disk drive
[08:20] <Jucato> nixhex: ah. oo.o-core is dependent on libgstreamer0.10-0 only
[08:20] <posingaspopular> soin my case it was e:/
[08:20] <posingaspopular> so i did e:/ music, e:/ documents etc
[08:20] <Jucato> nixhex: doesn't mean, though, that you can use GStreamer for the KDE multimedia apps :)
[08:20] <posingaspopular> and then there was alreayd one called lost and found
[08:20] <cpk1> epimeth: it looks like that phone might work with bitpim (says the motorola v3c works with it) although I am not sure if the version in the repos will come close to supporting it or not
[08:20] <nixhex> jucato: right
[08:20] <posingaspopular> in linux i see /lost and found
[08:20] <posingaspopular> and nothing else
[08:20] <nino> posingaspopular : mabe boot into windows and set the permissions to all, so that a guest can modify the files, and then try to copy them again!
[08:21] <Jucato> nixhex: libgstreamer0.10-0 isn't the same as gstreamer plugins (which those guides tell you to install)
[08:21] <posingaspopular> it didnt ask abotu permissions
[08:21] <posingaspopular> maybe thats the problem
[08:21] <posingaspopular> im just going to wait for my brother to come over and do it forme
[08:21] <nino> yea it copies it with those permissions i think!
[08:21] <nixhex> jucato: now swf-player...
[08:21] <posingaspopular> oh well that will do it
[08:21] <nixhex> jucato: nvm
[08:21] <posingaspopular> i tried doing /mnt and all that in linux but i suck at CLI
[08:22] <nino> posingaspopular : see if it worx!
[08:22] <posingaspopular> so it didnt work
[08:22] <posingaspopular> nino: as of yesterday it didnt work
[08:22] <nino> posingaspopular : oops
[08:22] <posingaspopular> like i said, my brother comes home in a few days, so ill force him to do it
[08:22] <posingaspopular> it's cool
[08:22] <nino> posingaspopular : brb
[08:22] <Jucato> nixhex: yes, swf-player seems to be depending on a gstreamer plugin. but swf-player is not a kde multimedia app, nor is it installed by default :D
[08:23] <nixhex> jucato: yeah its mozilla plugin...not sure if its being used though
[08:23] <cpk1> posingaspopular: what are you trying to do? copy from ntfs to ext3?
[08:23] <aphroguy> And not to mind-dump on the channel here, but another thing I've been unsuccessfully tinkering with is the resolution.  I've got a bottom-of-the-line-four-years-ago HP Pavilion notebook w/integrated video (s3).  The screen is TOTALLY shot, MUST have an external display attached.  I'm not able to boost my resolution above 1024x768, despite the fact that both my GPU and display are capable of handling up to 1280x1024.  Trying to set that d
[08:23] <posingaspopular> cpk1: move permanently between ntfs and ext3
[08:23] <nino> posingaspopular : how much music is it??
[08:24] <posingaspopular> nino: something like 30 gigs
[08:24] <cpk1> posingaspopular: you can read ntfs with no problems
[08:24] <me2win_> hyper_ch: did it work?
[08:24] <nino> posingaspopular : got a dvd writer?
[08:24] <posingaspopular> cpk1: i dont want to read, i want to move permamentky
[08:24] <hyper_ch> me2win_: killing didn't work :(
[08:24] <cpk1> posingaspopular: just boot into linux and move the files from the ntfs partition to the ext3 partition
[08:24] <posingaspopular> nino: nope
[08:24] <hyper_ch> it said no pid like that
[08:24] <hyper_ch> me2win_: but dont' worry... I was worried about someone else in my server :)
[08:24] <posingaspopular> cpk1: i tried that used /dev/mnt/hda1 -ro 0 0 or some other command
[08:25] <hyper_ch> the problem is squid wouldn't want to work anymore as proxy
[08:25] <posingaspopular> and doing anything in CLI is just impossible for me
[08:25] <posingaspopular> im trying todo it with a gui
[08:25] <nino> posingaspopular : use kdesu konqueror and move those files!!
[08:25] <hyper_ch> but now I tested some other sites and it works fine.. it seems that the one site I tried to access had problems :)
[08:25] <hyper_ch> you know, I set konqueror to use proxy only for certain sites
[08:25] <posingaspopular> konqueror is a kde app isn'tit?
[08:25] <posingaspopular>  im trying to move the files into edubuntu
[08:25] <posingaspopular> long storyabout thatone
[08:26] <nino> posingaspopular : r u on kde?
[08:26] <posingaspopular> right now yes
[08:26] <intelikey> konqueror is kde yes
[08:26] <posingaspopular> on the other computer i have edubuntu
[08:26] <cpk1> posingaspopular: no, ubuntu should have put it in the fstab when you installed it, if it didnt then you just need to do 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda# /media/myntfsmount
[08:26] <hyper_ch> posingaspopular: yes it it... but you can also use it in edubutnu or ubuntu or xubuntu
[08:26] <nino> run kdesu konqueror
[08:26] <cpk1> then it will be mounted posingaspopular and you can copy the files over
[08:26] <posingaspopular> well thats the thing
[08:26] <posingaspopular> i dont really have any more space....
[08:26] <cpk1> and umm close those quotes =P
[08:27] <posingaspopular> so i cant copy
[08:27] <nixhex> alright...onto an old time question: why doesn't mplayer (or any other player for that matter) play Windows Media or Realplayer files? I have w32codecs, and all that crap installed...yet they don't play
[08:27] <cpk1> well deleting them from the ntfs partition wont free up space anyways
[08:27] <posingaspopular> if i move anymore files to the partition it will blow up
[08:27] <posingaspopular> the files are already on the partition
[08:27] <posingaspopular> it just wont show
[08:27] <cpk1> posingaspopular: huh?
[08:27] <posingaspopular> im trying to get it to show
[08:27] <posingaspopular> i already moved the files from ntfs to ext3
[08:27] <nino> posingaspopular : DVD Writer + 10 DVD's!!
[08:27] <posingaspopular> it just wont show
[08:27] <cpk1> posingaspopular: so where did you move them to?
[08:28] <posingaspopular> uhhh thats the probelm
[08:28] <posingaspopular> i have to linux partitions
[08:28] <posingaspopular> the edubuntu partition and I think a ubuntu partition
[08:28] <cpk1> so mount them both and look for them
[08:28] <posingaspopular> the edubuntupart is liek 40something gigs and full
[08:28] <posingaspopular> cpk1: thats what i want todo
[08:28] <posingaspopular> but im going to wait for my brother to do it
[08:29] <posingaspopular> just because i dont work well with command line
[08:29] <cpk1> mounting is really easy...
[08:29] <epimeth> in order to mount a ext3 partition for a different machine I have to set up nfs, right?
[08:29] <posingaspopular> cpk1: yea i know.. sad :(
[08:29] <hyper_ch> cpk1: everything is easy when you know how :)
[08:29] <nino> lol
[08:29] <posingaspopular> I just want to get my music on ubuntu
[08:29] <posingaspopular> delete windows
[08:29] <cpk1> you just said the music is already on ubuntu...
[08:30] <epimeth> hyper_ch: lol.. but I didn't know how and it was still east :-
[08:30] <epimeth> :-)
[08:30] <nino> posingaspopular : Cant u get a dvd writer somewhere?
[08:30] <posingaspopular> install kubuntu over the old windows
[08:30] <posingaspopular> edubuntu
[08:30] <posingaspopular> i want it on kubuntu
[08:30] <posingaspopular> GNOME sucks...
[08:30] <cpk1> if its on an ext3 partition then using it isnt a problem
[08:30] <epimeth> if its an ntfs partition its easy too :-)
[08:30] <posingaspopular> my problem is that my computers are CRAZZZY
[08:31] <posingaspopular> and very specific
[08:31] <me2win_> this computer has a bad HD so my linux freezes up like ever 5 mins lol
[08:31] <epimeth> kompletely off topic... my wireless keeps disconnecting... how do I make it stop doing that :-)
[08:32] <aphroguy> Epimeth: How far away are the router and adapter?
[08:32] <intelikey> epimeth there might be something on that on the wiki
[08:32] <posingaspopular> epimeth: thats not off topic at all
[08:32] <intelikey> !wifi | epimeth
[08:32] <ubotu> epimeth: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:32] <epimeth> I read pretty much all the wifidocs wiki
[08:32] <epimeth> nothing about it there