[12:09] <guillem> Shorty`, no, I'm just gessing that since customers tend to buy TFT monitors lately, the old CRT outputs might have been lowered their quality checks. This would make sense if TFT monitors do not use the old VGA outputs....
[12:11] <discord_> spiral thats a guess
[12:13] <tiglionabbit> say guys, I just noticed that Edubuntu is looking for breezy badger animations.  What software should I use?L
[12:14] <OculusAquilae> tiglionabbit: wat kind of animations?
[12:15] <tiglionabbit> they put a link on the ubuntu main page, check it out.  I'm wondering what animation program I should use though...
[12:17] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: isn't there something called 'cinepaint' -- some sort of gimp thing?
[12:17] <tiglionabbit> hmm
[12:17] <tiglionabbit> are there any good SVG Animation programs yet?
[12:17] <guillem> Well, at the end I'm pretty happy with my new machine. I finally decided to upgrade my old AMDk6-2+ to this AMD64 thing... with sata disk which has not given any problem at ubuntu install... amazing, ubuntu has set up the network and sound cards embedded into the main card, and it has not given me any trouble at all.
[12:17] <blacksky> anybody know why I'm getting "MD5Sum mismatch" on some packages errors when trying to dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[12:18] <tiglionabbit> blacksky, are you sure you want to do that?
[12:18] <guillem> blacksky, read the Topic...
[12:18] <blacksky> ah, ok!
[12:18] <tiglionabbit> anyway, I need to sleep, I'll explore the internet for good animation programs later
[12:19] <blacksky> breezy is obviously a bit more bleeding edge than I was hoping for :)
[12:20] <aeho> I'm trying to play CodeRED: Alien arena, and I'm having some serious problems: http://pastebin.com/314401
[12:21] <aeho> Could something be wrong with my drivers?
[12:21] <tiglionabbit> blacksky, not as bleeding as Grumpy Groundhog
[12:22] <guillem> tiglionabbit, I think that latests openoffice releases can export things to flash... I don't know.
[12:23] <tiglionabbit> hm really
[12:23] <blacksky> tiglionabbit: ooo, not even heard of that one yet. I'm a recent convert from debian - is there somewhere that explains how the different ubuntu releases work?
[12:23] <ltk1608> hellp
[12:23] <ltk1608> hellp
[12:23] <ltk1608> hello
[12:24] <tiglionabbit> blacksky, they release a new stable distro every 6 months and call it an animal and an adjective with the same beginning letter.  Grumpy Groundhog however is the developers version that is meant to easily synchronize CVS builds of things in the ubuntu project
[12:25] <blacksky> ta for the info tiglionabbit
[12:25] <Heimdall> Seveas, (hello) could you remember me what is the latex package you told me about ?
[12:26] <tiglionabbit> goodnight everyone
[12:27] <tiglionabbit> if you find a program you think I could animate with, mail me<EMAIL_ADDRESS>)
[12:27] <newbie> heimdall what do you want latex to do for you?
[12:27] <HappyFool> blacksky: take a look on the website -- www.ubuntulinux.org and wiki.ubuntu.com -- you'll probably find some info on the release policy there
[12:28] <Heimdall> newbie, I'm just looking for the name of the latex package I have installed
[12:28] <HappyFool> Heimdall: tetex ?
[12:28] <newbie> try tetex
[12:28] <Heimdall> ah yes HappyFool  :)
[12:28] <Heimdall> this is it
[12:28] <Heimdall> well, now I can ask my question lol
[12:28] <newbie> lol
[12:29] <Heimdall> do you know if in tetex it is possible to convert dvi or tex file in html ?
[12:29] <newbie> tex2html
[12:29] <Heimdall> thing like latex2html
[12:29] <Heimdall> ah
[12:29] <newbie> yah it is called latex2html
[12:30] <newbie> but sometimes the translation is not soo good
[12:30] <HappyFool> Heimdall: there are some others, whose names escape me
[12:30] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i think there's also 'tth'
[12:30] <Heimdall> I don't have latex2html
[12:30] <newbie> i tried it with elsavier and did not work well
[12:30] <Heimdall> it would be good if I could create a little "web site" with a tex document I made
[12:31] <newbie> try installing latex2html
[12:31] <newbie> it might work for standard classes. But sometimes tables are not translated
[12:32] <newbie> heimdall you know the ctan site right search for a package there
[12:32] <cion> hey all newbie here: how come no multimedia file works on my ubuntu?
[12:33] <onkarshinde> cion:what do you want to play?
[12:33] <Heimdall> newbie, synaptic's running...
[12:33] <cion> mp3, divx, dvd, .mov.mpg
[12:33] <cion> nothing works
[12:34] <onkarshinde> cion: either install totem & totem-xine packages or install vlc
[12:34] <OculusAquilae> cion: try to look at ubuntuguide.org/
[12:34] <OculusAquilae> cion http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[12:34] <cion> whats vlc?
[12:34] <cion> Oculus: ok got that, I'll check it, thx
[12:35] <newbie> heimdall what front end for latex you use (kile or acutex)
[12:35] <OculusAquilae> cion: vlc is a media player, very good
[12:35] <djp> cion: try and use ogg vorbis instead of mp3 and theora instad of divx, mov and mpg. if you really need to use the other impeded formats then install g-streamer-plugins and gstreamer-ffmpeg
[12:35] <Heimdall> newbie, what ??
[12:35] <bassembg> hi room
[12:36] <OculusAquilae> djp: I think its not acceptable for a newbie to convert all files :-)
[12:36] <newbie> heimdall you said you use latex i was asking what front end you used
[12:36] <blacksky> when i do an "apt-get update" its Ign:(oring) the backport sources I've got listed. Anybody know why?
[12:36] <djp> OculusAquilae: sure. i wouldn't advise converting mp3 to ogg anyway.
[12:37] <Heimdall> newbie, sorry I don't understand 'front end'
[12:37] <bassembg> any one good in linux
[12:37] <cion> Ok thx to all, you guys rock!
[12:37] <newbie> heimdall what program you use to write latex files
[12:37] <cion> c'ya
[12:37] <onkarshinde> bassembg: Just ask your question.
[12:37] <bassembg> i need to adjust my screen resolution
[12:38] <mircea> System>Preferences>Screen Resolution
[12:38] <bassembg> it dosen't work
[12:38] <Heimdall> newbie, emacs
[12:38] <mircea> How exactly does it fail?
[12:39] <bassembg> its fixed on 640*480 and no other obtions
[12:39] <onkarshinde> bassembg: What is your graphic card?
[12:39] <mircea> I'm not sure which configuration file you need to edit then. Give me a second.
[12:40] <bassembg> ok
[12:41] <jasmuz> bye ya'll
[12:44] <bassembg> mircea still there
[12:44] <mircea> So my next question is, what does it say in your xorg.conf file. It's in /etc/X11.
[12:44] <mircea> Yeah, I was just checking some stuff on google and my computer.
[12:44] <frodo24> hello
[12:45] <bassembg> ok let me c
[12:45] <MeltedDuron> hi
[12:45] <Heimdall> newbie, do you know about latex2html ?
[12:45] <newbie> i have it installed here
[12:45] <frodo24> i still have problems with pon and i get disconnected after a minute or few seconds of net
[12:45] <newbie> and i ran it from lyx
[12:46] <newbie> never new how to work under emacs though
[12:46] <MeltedDuron> i swapped gfx cards, and i can't get the xserver to start, what do i do?
[12:46] <frodo24> i'm starting to think ubuntu sucks since i can't get it online
[12:46] <Heimdall> it does not make good pictures for my formulae :-/
[12:46] <HappyFool> frodo24: you've look in /var/log/messages for clues ?
[12:46] <frodo24> yes
[12:46] <HappyFool> MeltedDuron: try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org'
[12:46] <frodo24> but i don't know
[12:46] <frodo24> why
[12:46] <Heimdall> latex2html filename.tex [12:46] <newbie> told you it has some problems
[12:47] <MeltedDuron> ok thnx will do
[12:47] <bassembg> mircea still there
[12:47] <mircea> HappyFool; that's a new one, what exactly does it do?
[12:47] <mircea> yeah
[12:47] <Heimdall> newbie, http://nico.aunai.free.fr/man/node11.html see yourself.... here it should be a formula :-/
[12:47] <bassembg> it says Graphics Device"
[12:47] <bassembg> 	Monitor		"E71fSB-2"
[12:47] <bassembg> 	DefaultDepth	24
[12:47] <bassembg> 	SubSection "Display"
[12:47] <bassembg> 		Depth		1
[12:47] <bassembg> 		Modes		"1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
[12:47] <frodo24> i'm thinking to get kppp for ubutu
[12:47] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i'd recommend generating pdf instead -- most people can read it
[12:47] <HappyFool> mircea: runs xorgconfig, or an ubuntu/debian equivalent, afaik
[12:48] <mircea> Are there any entries under Depth 24 ?
[12:48] <newbie> there is no formula at all
[12:48] <newbie> no i had the formulas working not the tables though
[12:48] <Heimdall> HappyFool, yeah I'm making pdf too...
[12:48] <mircea> HappyFool; thanks, I think I understand now
[12:48] <bassembg> yae theres depth 4 , 8 , 16
[12:48] <ice_1963> i jest installed icewm it's good
[12:48] <Heimdall> HappyFool, but I thought html version could be nice too
[12:49] <frodo24> heimdall is that name after the game heimdall?
[12:49] <MeltedDuron> happyfool: it says xserver-org isn't installed :-/
[12:49] <HappyFool> Heimdall: fair enough. i'd worry less about that, and get on with writing the article/thesis whatever ;)
[12:49] <HappyFool> MeltedDuron: hmm. Are you running ubuntu 4.10 ?
[12:49] <mircea> bassembg: What does it say under Depth 16?
[12:49] <HappyFool> MeltedDuron: aka 'warty warthog' or older ubuntu release
[12:49] <Heimdall> HappyFool, yeah you're rigth :)
[12:49] <ice_1963> yup
[12:49] <Heimdall> right
[12:50] <Heimdall> frodo24,  ?
[12:50] <bassembg> SubSection "Display"
[12:50] <bassembg> 		Depth		16
[12:50] <bassembg> 		Modes		"1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
[12:50] <bassembg> 	EndSubSection
[12:50] <bassembg> 	SubSection "Display"
[12:50] <MeltedDuron> nope 5.04 hoary hedgehog
[12:50] <frodo24> if i copy and paste my log/messages next time will i get better tech support?
[12:50] <HappyFool> MeltedDuron: maybe i got the name wrong -- please stand by
[12:50] <MeltedDuron> okies thnx
[12:50] <HappyFool> bassembg: please don't paste here -- use a pastebin, or #flood
[12:50] <mircea> bassembg: strange
[12:51] <newbie> i use to run hyperlatex too
[12:51] <newbie> you can try that
[12:51] <bassembg> ok , sorry but still new
[12:51] <bassembg> so mircea what to do
[12:51] <HappyFool> MeltedDuron: no, xserver-xorg is correct
[12:51] <bassembg> it supports other resolutiom but i can't change it
[12:51] <mircea> How do you arrange some sort of direct chat?
[12:51] <qt2-2> mwahahaha
[12:51] <HappyFool> MeltedDuron: X did work previously?
[12:52] <bassembg> should i be root to change resolution
[12:52] <HappyFool> mircea: try '/query bassembg'
[12:52] <qt2-2> i know what was locking up my system \o/
[12:52] <MeltedDuron> okie yeh
[12:52] <ice_1963> you need to run icewm lol
[12:52] <MeltedDuron> i swapped gfx cards tho
[12:52] <frodo24> anyone has any idea why i get disconnected after?
[12:52] <mircea> thanks
[12:52] <qt2-2> frodo24, after what?
[12:52] <HappyFool> MeltedDuron: that certainly shouldn't cause an uninstall of xserver-xorg
[12:52] <frodo24> connection to isp
[12:53] <MeltedDuron> yaay it r workeh now thnx HappyFool
[12:53] <qt2-2> what are you using to connect?
[12:53] <HappyFool> frodo24: can you paste the output of 'grep pppd /var/log/messages' to a pastebin?
[12:53] <HappyFool> MeltedDuron: ok, cool
[12:53] <HappyFool> frodo24: i have to go soon, so I may not be able to fully debug your problem
[12:53] <frodo24> no now as i'm in windows but later yes
[12:54] <evader> I love it when the topic answers my question
[12:54] <frodo24> ok someone will is ok happyfool
[12:54] <HappyFool> frodo24: you can read linux filesystems with explore2fs
[12:54] <MeltedDuron> can someone with a calculator help me find out what 128mb is in kb pleese?
[12:54] <frodo24> ok i will go and  download it and paste it
[12:54] <HappyFool> frodo24: maybe you can use a windows text editor (notepad, whatever) to manually find pppd related lines and put them up there -- no need to boot into linux
[12:55] <frodo24> i use scite on win
[12:55] <HappyFool> MeltedDuron: 134217728
[12:55] <mircea> 131072KB
[12:55] <MeltedDuron> thanx :)
[12:55] <frodo24> ok i go now to download
[12:55] <frodo24> so can't read chats
[12:57] <frodo24> downloading
[12:57] <mircea> yeah?
[12:57] <frodo24> why is so popular ubuntu?
[12:57] <action09> because it kicks ass
[12:58] <frodo24> i know why linux is popular but not ubuntu
[12:58] <Chipparn> ubuntu rocks
[12:58] <mircea> Because it's easy to use and well integrated.
[12:58] <HappyFool> frodo24: regular release cycle, post-release support of 18 months (up to now) and emphasis on ease of use
[12:58] <frodo24> mandrake also is easy
[12:58] <action09> frodo24 install in 20 minutes and has a Debian style (best linux cos of apt..and free software) desktop oriented , and Desktop is for 90% of users...
[12:59] <MeltedDuron> Happyfool: have configed x, now what?
[12:59] <MeltedDuron> reebootz0r?
[12:59] <HappyFool> MeltedDuron: no
[12:59] <HappyFool> MeltedDuron: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[12:59] <frodo24> i c
[12:59] <MeltedDuron> ok thx
[12:59] <frodo24> is fast in booting
[12:59] <frodo24> i noticed
[01:00] <frodo24> cool i c my linux system
[01:01] <MeltedDuron> HappyFool: it don'twork
[01:01] <HappyFool> MeltedDuron: unfortunately i must go now. Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for some clues as to what is breaking, or ask someone else for help. My apologies.
[01:03] <frodo24> Jul 16 01:30:12 localhost pppd[23075] : Using interface ppp0
[01:03] <frodo24> Jul 16 01:30:12 localhost pppd[23075] : Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
[01:03] <frodo24> Jul 16 01:30:40 localhost pppd[19147] : Device ttyS1 is locked by pid 23075
[01:03] <frodo24> Jul 16 01:30:41 localhost pppd[23075] : PAP authentication succeeded
[01:03] <frodo24> Jul 16 01:30:49 localhost pppd[23075] : local  IP address <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:03] <frodo24> Jul 16 01:30:49 localhost pppd[23075] : remote IP address <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:03] <frodo24> Jul 16 01:30:49 localhost pppd[23075] : primary   DNS address <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:03] <frodo24> Jul 16 01:30:49 localhost pppd[23075] : secondary DNS address <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:04] <frodo24> sorry
[01:04] <frodo24> i knew it whould happen
[01:04] <cat> stop flooding,
[01:04] <frodo24> sorry
[01:05] <frodo24> i had to paste a problem
[01:05] <frodo24> anyone read it and tell me
[01:06] <Bubbling_Zombie> frodo24, use the pastbin (check /topic)
[01:06] <cat> well, don't pasted you'r problem gives us, information about the issue,
[01:06] <cat> pasting doesn't meing anything
[01:07] <frodo24> i can't
[01:07] <cat> well then we can't help you, simple as that
[01:07] <frodo24> listen i have to go to shower after tell me a solution
[01:08] <frodo24> how u pastbin?
[01:08] <cat> well when you come back explain the issue, and we will do our best to help you,
[01:08] <frodo24> ok cat
[01:09] <kevin> I am proud of myself, the true Linux newby got his wireless working with no help and no cheasing people off, it was easy thanx to the awsome documentation of the Ubuntu forums
[01:09] <frodo24> is cool when a newbiew does it by himself i also agree
[01:09] <cat> well what can we say kevin there's some people that love to read and others, lazy that don't really read much
[01:10] <kevin> now all I have to do is get icewm installed and setup
[01:10] <kevin> I am normally the latter
[01:10] <frodo24> i'm not a lazzy person just i can't fix the damn modem
[01:11] <cat> frodo24: www.google.com/linux
[01:12] <kevin> cat: it is awsome, the firsat try and my wireless works! I am using it now to be in here
[01:12] <cat> that's awsome
[01:12] <kevin> yup
[01:13] <bassembg> hi room
[01:13] <kevin> I normally won't spend $35.00 to play but I had to
[01:13] <bassembg> i need to change my screen resolution
[01:13] <bassembg> any help
[01:13] <kevin> hi bassemg
[01:14] <sheeparegreat> does anyone know where I can find some nice themes for Gnome?
[01:14] <cat> sheeparegreat: art.gnome.org
[01:14] <zerok> hi :-)
[01:14] <cat> hiya zerok
[01:15] <bimberi> bassembg: something here may help you ...
[01:15] <bimberi> !resolution
[01:15] <ubotu> methinks resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:15] <kevin> bassemg: mine is under Computer then system config
[01:15] <kevin> sorry I will hush lol
[01:16] <bassembg> ok thanks
[01:16] <bimberi> bassembg: yw - hope it helps :)
[01:21] <tanki> good morning all
[01:22] <bassembg> i used the reconfigure command and every thing get mixed up and i renstall linux again
[01:22] <kevin> tanki: morning
[01:22] <bassembg> i edite the xorg.conf and it seems to support all resolutins
[01:23] <bassembg> why then i cant change it
[01:23] <djp> morning tanki
[01:23] <tanki> I know this is a help channel but it would be nice once in a while if someone came in here and said something like "Hello! All is well!"
[01:23] <tanki> lol
[01:23] <tanki> mornin' kevin, djp
[01:23] <evillight> GOOD MORNING! =D
[01:23] <evillight> lol
[01:23] <kevin> tanki: I did this am ;)
[01:24] <tanki> yes kevin I remember :)
[01:24] <kevin> lol
[01:24] <bassembg> tanki u seems to be abou tanki (in arabic)
[01:25] <tanki> interesting, what's tanki in arabic?
[01:25] <tanki> I mean what's it translate to in englishh
[01:25] <bassembg> it means metalic tank
[01:25] <tanki> lol
[01:26] <bassembg> and when u say about some one that he is abou tanki it means he is old stuff
[01:26] <tanki> hah
[01:26] <tanki> cool
[01:26] <lesshaste> how do I make dev/mapper/control ?
[01:26] <tanki> i'm 27 so in some circles i'm old
[01:27] <bassembg> well i'm 30 ;)
[01:27] <bassembg> too old
[01:27] <tanki> when i started to hide linsey lohan movies under my bed, i knew i was old
[01:27] <bassembg> lol
[01:30] <kevin> well, I shall return tonight. Time for me to go and start seeing Windows customers
[01:30] <Funraiser> it would be nice if there was this feature: after reaching a folder with Nautilus, select a file, right click an choose: type a command line that will apply to this file on this folder (see what I mean?)
[01:31] <fonsken> anyone knows how i can extract a .CAB-file?
[01:31] <nightswim> cabextract
[01:31] <Chipparn> anyone have a tip on another cool and easy use windowmanager?
[01:31] <frodo24> OK I'M BACK
[01:31] <frodo24> sorry
[01:31] <fonsken> thx nightswim :)
[01:31] <nightswim> :)
[01:31] <frodo24> cap where on
[01:32] <mactiny> does anyone here know what is currently the best gfx card for laptops
[01:32] <mactiny> speed wize
[01:32] <frodo24> so know do i paste my log?
[01:32] <xxenon> mactiny - I have a geforce 6200, not bad.
[01:33] <mactiny> what 3dmark scores do you get roughly
[01:33] <xxenon> mactiny - no idea.
[01:33] <zwnj> how i can get GLX without NVIDIAs module (i mean Mesa-GLX)?
[01:33] <tanki> mactiny, If you can afford it, try to find a laptop that allows interchanging of gfx cards. More and more manufacter's are doing this and it's a great idea if you get a laptop as a desktop replacement (ala. gaming). DELL XPS is one I know of that does this.
[01:33] <mactiny> areu able to play most of the current games
[01:33] <frodo24> how do i paste
[01:34] <mactiny> oh ok, thanks
[01:34] <xxenon> mactiny - I play HL2 1280x800 very smoothly
[01:34] <mactiny> good to know
[01:34] <mactiny> ive been away from the gaming scene for awhile, i must say, im quite amazed that the gfx are that fast
[01:35] <mactiny> how would you compare mobile gfx to desktop
[01:35] <zwnj> anyone would help me please?
[01:35] <mactiny> at the mo
[01:35] <xxenon> mactiny - laptop's are still a lot slower. Just check the size of a 6800Ultra..with the fans and all...and the power comsuption
[01:35] <xxenon> you cantz  bring that to a laptop
[01:36] <tanki> mactiny, they've come a long way but in general the desktop beats them out because traditionally you're stuck with the gfx card you have in your laptop for the life of the laptop
[01:36] <xxenon> but my VAIO with that geforce has decent performance, I think.
[01:36] <mactiny> i get that
[01:36] <mactiny> im thinking of getting a new laptop, ill have a look at the dell xps
[01:37] <tanki> my laptop was able to play most games on the market at a great fps but now i don't dare try to play battlfield 2 on it for example
[01:37] <tanki> and i can't really do anything about that
[01:37] <mactiny> what laptop you got
[01:37] <mactiny> tanki
[01:39] <tanki> mactiny, just remember the two things you can't replace on a laptop is the lcd and the keyboard so make sure whichever laptop you choose, you like both those components
[01:40] <tanki> so it doesn't matter if your laptop can power a rocket shuttle, if the keyboard doesn't feel right, then your experience with it will suck
[01:40] <jacob__> external keyboard
[01:40] <jacob__> external display screen
[01:41] <tanki> in that case you might as well just build a pc
[01:41] <jacob__> well a laptop you bring home
[01:41] <jacob__> if you are a student
[01:41] <mactiny> tanki ..thanks, ill keep that in mind
[01:41] <silverphoenix> Ubuntu is beadth of which debian?
[01:41] <jacob__> and I always though that replacing parts in a laptop is rather expensive
[01:41] <Nitrous> hey need help, when you boot up ubuntu and it comes to the boot screen what do you type to start the gnome desktop environment
[01:42] <tanki> if you buy an external monitor and keyboard for your laptop because you don't like the laptop's keyboard and lcd, then you bought the wrong laptop imho
[01:42] <ben_underscore> Nitrous, it should just start when you log in
[01:42] <jacob__> laptop keyboards are mostly not very nice
[01:42] <Nitrous> well its probably because im not using a physical hdd
[01:42] <Nitrous> i was using vmware
[01:42] <jacob__> and external keyboards are not expensive
[01:43] <ben_underscore> Nitrous, did it give you a gdm login screen with the ubuntu logo, etc?
[01:43] <silverphoenix> Ubuntu is beadth of which debian?
[01:43] <Nitrous> yer it did
[01:43] <Nitrous> but it wasnt really a login prompt
[01:43] <frodo24> i can't get online without falling after a second or minute of net
[01:43] <jacob__> sid
[01:43] <Nitrous> it had boot:
[01:43] <silverphoenix> Ubuntu is beadth of which debian(woody,sarge,sid)?
[01:44] <Raptoid> turkish support channel
[01:44] <Raptoid> #ubuntu.tr
[01:44] <Raptoid> opened..
[01:44] <Nitrous> well ill create a partition and try it on a physical hdd
[01:44] <ben_underscore> silverphoenix, sarge i think
[01:44] <jacob__> sid
[01:44] <Nitrous> if not ill come back
[01:44] <tanki> if you select a laptop that has a keyboard you're comfortable with, then you don't need an external keyboard
[01:44] <jacob__> they synchronize with sid for every new version
[01:44] <ben_underscore> jacob__, well there you go
[01:44] <gjc> "xbase-clients: Depends: xdpyinfo but it is not installable"
[01:45] <gjc> :P
[01:45] <gjc> this is known problem?
[01:45] <jacob__> what do you mean ben_underscore
[01:46] <ben_underscore> jacob__, i had it wrong on the debian version ubuntu uses!
[01:46] <jacob__> oh ok
[01:47] <el_kato> is there an command to "fix" broken package. I have a package libstdc++5 thats broken!
[01:47] <jacob__> silverphoenix, this url explains it: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/relationship/document_view
[01:48] <frodo24> anyone wants to help me or do i have to talk bad about ubuntu?
[01:48] <Dalkus> hi, where's grub.conf by default?
[01:48] <el_kato> frodo24: do you have an firewall installed?
[01:49] <silverphoenix> jacob__,thx
[01:49] <frodo24> no i don't think so , i don'y know
[01:49] <frodo24> i just installed it from cd
[01:49] <uniq> dalkus: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:50] <frodo24> and it installed alot of crap without asking if i want xya package
[01:50] <Dalkus> thats the conf?
[01:50] <Dalkus> I thought there was a grub.conf too?
[01:50] <ben_underscore> frodo24, what sort of network connection do you have
[01:50] <sJaM> dalkus you are a gentoo user
[01:50] <el_kato> frodo24: have you set your host name, some isp demands it
[01:50] <sJaM> I think
[01:50] <sJaM> it is
[01:50] <Dalkus> no, just ubuntu
[01:50] <sJaM> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:50] <sJaM> well on gentoo I had a symbolic link grub.conf to menu.lst
[01:51] <frodo24> i can surf but just if i'm fast and click a link after logging in the net
[01:51] <Dalkus> mm ok
[01:51] <Smof> hey all
[01:51] <frodo24> i only know my isp need dns and user and password
[01:52] <frodo24> but after 1 click of a url i get cut off
[01:52] <frodo24> i had this problem with mdk but kppp now doesn't do it on mdk
[01:54] <frodo24> kdialer
[01:54] <Dalkus> when I run grub-install, I get alot of errors saying command not found
[01:54] <Dalkus> but its in my /sbin
[01:55] <ben_underscore> frodo24, same machine?
[01:56] <frodo24> yes
[01:56] <frodo24> now i don't have mdk anymore but i have the dvd still
[01:57] <sJaM> grub-install isn't the recommend way of installing grub
[01:57] <sJaM> actually
[01:57] <Dalkus> what
[01:57] <eromb> why does ubuntu use the perl rename (with regexps) instead of the normal one?
[01:57] <Dalkus>  *what would you suggest?
[01:57] <sJaM> the grub shell
[01:57] <frodo24> i change to ubuntu to try and to get my damn 3d card working so i can't some games on linux when i'm bored
[01:57] <sJaM> but if you install ubuntu, grub is installed by default
[01:57] <Smof> anyone here able to help me find out how to get my scanner working? I've tried using google and came up with nothing, and I'm too much of an ubuntu newbie to guess my way through it
[01:58] <ben_underscore> frodo24, all i can possibly suggest is that there is some weirdness happening with your modem under linux.
[01:58] <frodo24> but i workd with mdk kdialer
[01:59] <frodo24> is not a winmodem
[01:59] <ben_underscore> frodo24, ok.
[01:59] <sJaM> dalkus it is quite easy
[01:59] <frodo24> can i get kdialer for ubuntu?
[01:59] <sJaM> to do it with the shell
[01:59] <sJaM> type: sudo grub
[02:00] <sJaM> root (hd0, 0) if that is the location where you /boot resides
[02:00] <sJaM> setup (hd0) if you want it in your mbr
[02:00] <Dalkus> yeah just managed, gonna reboot in a sec
[02:00] <ben_underscore> frodo24, perhaps do a google for the hardware type and the pppd version on ubuntu?
[02:00] <sJaM> it is also wise to make a floppy
[02:01] <sJaM> with grub on it
[02:01] <frodo24> i have the ppp of 5.04 ubuntu
[02:01] <naliothatwrk> grub-floppy
[02:02] <klaym> hello! does anyone know of a gnu-licensed, simple 3d modeling program? (I'd do fine with as simple as Valve Hammer)
[02:02] <frodo24> yes
[02:02] <frodo24> i know
[02:02] <sJaM> same procedure only then with your floppy
[02:02] <frodo24> well i don't know valve hammer
[02:03] <klaym> it's the tool for making maps for HL/CS :P
[02:03] <frodo24> but i know 2 good gnu 3d modelrs
[02:03] <koan> Hi.
[02:03] <klaym> ok. can they be found on apt?
[02:03] <visor> klaym: Kpovray maybe
[02:03] <klaym> visor: thanks I'll check
[02:03] <sJaM> root (fd0)
[02:04] <sJaM> setup (fd0)
[02:04] <chrissturm> klaym, blender is good
[02:04] <sJaM> although you have to copy your /boot to the floppy first
[02:04] <Ephyon> hello
[02:04] <frodo24> there is 3dmax for gamers, and blender
[02:05] <frodo24> 3dmax is not the comercial one i mean the free download version use for makin games
[02:05] <Ephyon> oh yeah? sound interesting
[02:06] <chrissturm> frodo24, and that 3dmax runs on linux?
[02:06] <klaym> I've been using 3dsmax and it's very good. but I have a very limited computer capacity on my use now
[02:06] <frodo24> i use povray but not for making maps i stop making maps
[02:06] <chrissturm> klaym, use blender, its very nice
[02:06] <Ephyon> hey? what are you talking about?
[02:07] <klaym> chrissturm: I'll check that
[02:07] <chrissturm> there's also maya for linux but its expensive
[02:07] <Ephyon> can i join?
[02:07] <bassembg> hi
[02:07] <Ephyon> hi too
[02:07] <bassembg> i'm editing my xconfig file using vi
[02:07] <bassembg> how to save changes
[02:07] <spo0nman> is there a meta package to installing gnome?
[02:07] <frodo24> i can't help more is long time i don't go around to the world of making maps for games
[02:08] <bimberi> bassembg: :wq <- saves and quits
[02:08] <frodo24> but there has to be something out there
[02:08] <bassembg> how to do this
[02:08] <bassembg> press w and q at the same time
[02:08] <sam_> what was the command for checking free space on a disk again?
[02:09] <bassembg> press w and q at the same time?
[02:09] <bimberi> bassembg: no - colon ":", then "w", then "q"
[02:09] <weiers> Hi ... I think I need to configure ESD to release the soundcard when it is not using it in order for me to be able to listen to music etc.  Unfortuanately the wiki seems to be broken at that point. It give me the entries, but it does not say where I can find the esd configuratrion file. Can somebody give me advice?
[02:09] <bimberi> sam_: df -h
[02:09] <sam_> bimberi, thanks
[02:09] <bimberi> sam_: yw :)
[02:10] <bassembg> i'll be back , i hope
[02:11] <Gato26_asturias> Alguien q hable espaol?
[02:11] <frodo24> where can i get dedicated software for ubuntu?
[02:11] <frodo24> si yo
[02:11] <frodo24> hola, eres asturiano?
[02:11] <hmrocha> What happened to ubuntuguide.org?
[02:11] <weiers> Any pointers to where I can find the ESD configuration file?
[02:12] <frodo24> Gato26 que quieres?
[02:12] <kevin> tanki: I am using the xfc4 desktop and want to add the button to get to my programs, any ideas?
[02:12] <bimberi> weiers: I have a /etc/esound/esd.conf - perhaps that's it
[02:13] <asdasd> dude does ubuntu have a cyber cafe software ?
[02:13] <Gato26_asturias> hola frodo pues ponerme al dia en linux
[02:13] <bassembg> hi again
[02:13] <weiers> thanks bimberi ... will go look
[02:13] <bassembg> i did it , i change my screen resolution
[02:14] <asdasd> hi
[02:14] <bimberi> weiers: yw :)
[02:14] <asdasd> anyone know ?
[02:14] <bassembg> bimber , do u want to know how
[02:14] <bimberi> bassembg: yes pls :)
[02:14] <frodo24> no puedo connectar me con el modem me caigo despues de connectar me con timofonica
[02:14] <asdasd> bassembg does ubuntu have a cyber cafe software ?
[02:15] <weiers> bimberi, that seems to be it. I'll edit it and see waht I can do.
[02:15] <bimberi> weiers: k - good luck :)
[02:15] <frodo24> demomento no puedo hacer mucho con ubuntu
[02:15] <asdasd> !cyber cafe
[02:15] <ubotu> asdasd: I don't know
[02:15] <bassembg> ok i edit my xorg.config file
[02:15] <frodo24> yes i have asdasd
[02:15] <bimberi> hmrocha: ubuntuguide.org loads for me
[02:16] <frodo24> something of kde for ciber
[02:16] <bassembg> it seems to know the vga but not the moniter
[02:16] <asdasd> frodo24 do you have it ?
[02:16] <asdasd> yes i need it for my cafe
[02:16] <frodo24> on dvd
[02:16] <asdasd> oh
[02:16] <frodo24> ok i tell u the name
[02:16] <asdasd> can send to my email pls
[02:16] <bassembg> so i entered the vertical and horizental frequenceys of my monitor and it works
[02:17] <frodo24> may be
[02:17] <ordi666> I'd like some help about forcing my computer tu use some drivers instead of the one that ubuntu load automaticaly for my wifi card, please ;)
[02:17] <frodo24> kde kiosk
[02:17] <bimberi> bassembg: ah ok.  Glad that worked for you.
[02:18] <asdasd> i must pay for it or not ?
[02:18] <frodo24> no is gnu
[02:18] <bassembg> hope it will work for u too
[02:18] <asdasd> it working on gnome too frodo ?
[02:19] <GNULinuxer> ordi666: unload those drivers ... load your own drivers
[02:19] <frodo24> don't know let me read the review
[02:19] <kevin> ordi666: I am using the d-link dwl-g650 and the base driver worked for me
[02:19] <cion> hey all, I'm using totem-xine and i can't play .wmv file what do I have to do?
[02:19] <to0om> cion, install w32codecs
[02:19] <GNULinuxer> cion: apt-get install w32codecs
[02:19] <frodo24> is very big revie
[02:19] <frodo24> w
[02:20] <frodo24> look at web
[02:20] <frodo24> is better u check the program site
[02:20] <asdasd> ok btw thks frodo i will googling for it
[02:20] <cion> that's after adding extra reps right?
[02:21] <frodo24> good luck
[02:21] <to0om> yes cion
[02:21] <cion> ok thx all
[02:22] <PiTiLeZarD> me revoila avec xChat c'est dja mieux
[02:22] <PiTiLeZarD> lol
[02:22] <Heimdall> hey
[02:22] <Heimdall> what are the port TCP and UDP that I need to open for azureus ?
[02:23] <kevin> ordi666: have you looked for the wiki on your make and model card?
[02:23] <ordi666> GNULinuxer, I can't unload orinoco_cs module till the card is plugged in, and when it's unpluged it's unloaded automaticaly, but as soon as it's pluged back they load :S
[02:23] <GNULinuxer> ordi666: modprobe -r -f orinoco_cs
[02:24] <frodo24> how can i desable the pc speaker everytime i use tab in bash
[02:24] <sJaM> you can define them yourself Heimdall
[02:24] <frodo24> '
[02:24] <sJaM> in the config somewhere
[02:24] <GNULinuxer> ordi666: edit /etc/modules and remove orinoco_cs if it's there
[02:25] <sJaM> you only have to open 1 tcp port and an optional udp port
[02:25] <Heimdall> sJaM, I know but maybe it is better to put default ones
[02:25] <Heimdall> 6889 is good then ?
[02:25] <sJaM> yes
[02:25] <sJaM> default ports for bittorrent are a lot
[02:25] <sJaM> since it used to have for each torrent a port
[02:25] <Heimdall> ok
[02:25] <sJaM> but clients are dropping that policy
[02:25] <ordi666> GNULinuxer, nop they arent there
[02:25] <to0om> a general question: is it recommended to install packages from the backports servers, or is it better i leave my fingers from them?
[02:26] <ordi666> modprobe -r -f orinoco_cs          FATAL: Module orinoco_cs is in use.
[02:26] <Dalkus> thanks sJaM, fixed it.
[02:26] <Heimdall> sJaM, but in the options it is written 6889 TCP, I just oppened it but it does not download (red head)
[02:26] <sJaM> I never understood why they have a grub-install actually ?
[02:27] <sJaM> I have my second hd on hdd and with lilo and grub-install I have to manual change that
[02:27] <kevin> what is a good and lite web browser?
[02:27] <sJaM> but with using grub it works right out of the box
[02:27] <sJaM> lynx kevin
[02:27] <kevin> thanx
[02:27] <GNULinuxer> ordi666: well, it seems forced module unloading is not allowed in the default kernel
[02:27] <sJaM> it is a terminal one ;)
[02:28] <frodo24> where can i get software for ubuntu
[02:28] <sJaM> Heimdall, you can use https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 (Shields Up) to check if your ports are not stealth (open or close)
[02:28] <kevin> okay I want one that I will be able to check email with
[02:29] <el_kato> frodo24:    apt-get install "program"
[02:29] <sJaM> you could try Epiphany kevin
[02:29] <bimberi> frodo24: Synaptic
[02:29] <kevin> I may thanx again
[02:29] <frodo24> i can't as i have no net
[02:29] <frodo24> working
[02:29] <sJaM> but it uses the gecko engine
[02:29] <sJaM> so I don't know if it is light enough for you
[02:30] <kevin> I am using a p1 233 with 48 mb ram
[02:30] <sJaM> are you using gnome ?
[02:30] <ordi666> GNULinuxer, I supose that there is a file that say that if my card is present it have to load orinoco_cs , if I change it to load hostap instead that should work no ?
[02:30] <el_kato>  frodo24: if the software is on the ubuntu cd it will tell you
[02:30] <kevin> right now no, using the xfce4
[02:30] <sJaM> ok
[02:30] <sJaM> you could check freshmeat.net
[02:30] <kevin> that improved the speed a lot
[02:31] <kingruedi> hi
[02:31] <GNULinuxer> ordi666: that's done via hotplug
[02:31] <kevin> I will soon, just thinking about what all I have to do today.......... yukkk laundry and more customers lol
[02:31] <kingruedi> I removed ubuntu-desktop and now I'm missing the Administration tools
[02:32] <kingruedi> which package must be installed for the administration tools?
[02:32] <Heimdall> sJaM,
[02:32] <Heimdall> 6889
[02:32] <Heimdall> OPEN! 	Unknown Protocol for this port
[02:32] <Heimdall> Unknown Application for this port
[02:33] <kevin> sjam: is Heimdall using a router?
[02:33] <Heimdall> kevin, yes
[02:34] <Heimdall> but I openned the port 6889 both udp and tcp
[02:34] <Heimdall> it should works
[02:34] <sJaM> kevin, that doesn't matter
[02:34] <kevin> sjam: okidoki
[02:34] <sJaM> shields up checks it finds something behind the port
[02:34] <sJaM> Heimdall, open that means there is nothing wrong with your ports settings (firewall/router)
[02:34] <sJaM> something is wrong with the tracker perhaps ?
[02:35] <Heimdall> sJaM, hum no...
[02:35] <siimo> how to check the memory usage program by program in commandline? like task manager on windows?
[02:35] <othernoob> siimo: top
[02:35] <action09> siimo  sudo  top   and sort it by memory doing  shift + M   or CPU Usage doing  shift + P
[02:35] <sJaM> red means that it is not started
[02:35] <sJaM> if you view the details of the torrent
[02:35] <sJaM> there is perhaps a error msg
[02:36] <siimo> top is not showing all programs :-/ >
[02:36] <red_flower> guy's what shutdown command to shutdown my pc
[02:36] <othernoob> action09: what do you need sudo for top?
[02:36] <red_flower> on shell prompt
[02:36] <Heimdall> sJaM, at centraltracker.org:81 I have : d14:failure reason56:unsupported tracker protocol, please upgrade your cliente
[02:36] <bimberi> red_flower: shutdown -h now
[02:36] <to0om> would you recommend putting the backports into the sources.list or not??
[02:36] <red_flower> oh thanks
[02:36] <red_flower> c u
[02:36] <red_flower> night
[02:37] <othernoob> to0om: only the hoary-backports
[02:37] <action09> othernoob  yes you're right.. cos i was using iftop and it was mandatory in this case  :)
[02:37] <bimberi> to0om: I do - but only for installing something I need.  For (dist-)upgrades I edit the backports lines out
[02:37] <othernoob> action09: :)
[02:38] <kingruedi> which package includes the administration tools?
[02:38] <action09> siimo  don't need to do   'sudo'  so  :)
[02:38] <siimo> yes but not all programs are showing up in top
[02:38] <siimo> can i scroll down somehow?
[02:39] <Heimdall> sJaM, where could be the error ?
[02:39] <sJaM> "d14:failure reason56:unsupported tracker protocol, please upgrade your cliente"
[02:39] <Heimdall> yeah but I don't understand it...
[02:40] <Heimdall> my azureus is not old
[02:40] <Benji> ubuntuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[02:40] <highvolt1ge> ruuuuuuuules
[02:40] <Benji> but i'm here with debian :)
[02:40] <highvolt1ge> debian is cool too.
[02:41] <sJaM> perhaps it is the trackers fault
[02:41] <kingruedi> where are the administration tools?
[02:42] <Heimdall> sJaM, I have doubts, there are thousands of downloaders for this file... it has to work
[02:43] <liable> Benji: wtf was that all abot?
[02:43] <sJaM> could you dcc me the torrent
[02:44] <to0om> kingruedi, look what ubuntu-desktop depends on, and install those packages
[02:45] <to0om> then your administration tools should be there again
[02:45] <Wimpie>  does anybody know what is goin on with prism54.org website ?
[02:45] <Heimdall> sJaM, 14:44:25]  Not monitoring 'filename': tracker available (announce: http://centraltracker.org:81/announce)
[02:46] <sJaM> well it certainly doesn't have anything todo with azureus or ubuntu
[02:46] <Wimpie> well, I try to install a SMC wlan card in ubuntu and it failed
[02:47] <Wimpie> so I wanted to check that site to see what is going on
[02:47] <Sheng> Hello.
[02:47] <Heimdall> sJaM, I don't know really...
[02:47] <Sheng> Does Ubuntu support the Ralink RT2500 out of the box?
[02:47] <Sheng> WEP
[02:48] <Fraeon> There is no box
[02:48] <othernoob> Fraeon: are you sure?
[02:48] <Pro_Newbie> How to add cyrilic encoding in Kopete? There plenty of ISO, CP and so on that i don understand.  :D
[02:55] <sJaM> yip Heimdall
[02:55] <sJaM> working for me
[02:55] <sJaM> using the original bittorrent client
[02:56] <A[D] minS> whats is da last kernel ?
[02:56] <nightswim> www.kernel.org
[02:56] <A[D] minS> apt-get install kernel-2.6..12 ?
[02:56] <A[D] minS> nightswim, i mean from packages?
[02:56] <Heimdall> I don't understand.....................
[02:57] <vertex> whereami is a auto-network configurtion util at boot time
[02:57] <Virtuall> wow :)
[02:58] <Smof> Hi guys. Does anyone know if the standard Ubuntu kernel supports scanners?
[02:58] <GNULinuxer> Smof: it does
[02:58] <Smof> So no module required then?
[02:59] <Pro_Newbie> Anyone can helpp me? ? :(
[02:59] <qt2> o.O steange
[02:59] <Sheng> thanks for that link
[02:59] <Sheng> at least now, i can configure it
[02:59] <bimberi> Sheng: yw - hope it works for you :)
[03:00] <Smof> Presumably, if you plug in a USB device, it should show up when you type lsusb, right?
[03:01] <dylan_> I get the message that my iPod File Structure is missing while in GTKPod.  How do  I fix this?
[03:01] <Pro_Newbie> Ah Come one
[03:01] <Pro_Newbie> :(
[03:02] <dylan_> What?
[03:02] <seeker> All questions and no answers?
[03:03] <dylan_> I know nothing.
[03:03] <dylan_> Do you advise that I switch back to Windows?
[03:03] <sJaM> I am now checking bittornado
[03:05] <seeker> Heheheh same here. Ubuntu was doing pretty good with few issues until I got greedy and added Kubuntu then limewired til I filled up my hard drive now I can't keep up with all the bugs showing up.
[03:05] <sJaM> btw Heimdall bittorrent uses default ports between 6881 and 6999
[03:07] <Heimdall> sJaM, hum.. so I should open all of them ??  noo ??
[03:07] <othernoob> sJaM: are you sure about 6999 :p
[03:08] <othernoob> sJaM: didn't you mean to say 6889?
[03:09] <ordi666> I'd like some help, I installed (no error) Hostap driver, but when I plugg the card the stupid orinoco_cs module load instead, please I'd like some help
[03:09] <AlexBO> hello world!I've just installed Grip, but the ripping of the cd-rom is very slowly.can i set the CD-ROM reading speed?
[03:10] <othernoob> AlexBO: enable DMA
[03:10] <action09> yep
[03:10] <action09> AlexBO  on wiki index search DMA
[03:10] <m0biu5> hi everyone =), how are we today?
[03:10] <AlexBO> othernoob:where?
[03:10] <AlexBO> action09:wiki of ubuntu or wikipedia?
[03:10] <m0biu5> former
[03:11] <dylan_> So does anybody know how I can fix my iPod?
[03:11] <othernoob> AlexBO: in a terminal. sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hd*  *=> for example c, if your cdrom drive is hdc
[03:11] <dylan_> Screw this....switching back to Windows in 5 minutes.
[03:11] <othernoob> AlexBO: sudo hdparm -v /dev/hd* to check whether DMA is enabled or not
[03:12] <m0biu5> anyone know why thunderbird isnt packaged with ubuntu?
[03:12] <dj28> it uses evolution by default i think
[03:12] <dj28> you can apt-get it
[03:12] <m0biu5> i know, im just curious dj28
[03:13] <dj28> i guess someone had a preference for evolution ;)
[03:13] <martigan> thunderbird keeps hanging here.. got 53000 new emails but it's to much to handle i think on a 1.8 with 1 gb ram :P
[03:13] <m0biu5> guess so =P
[03:13] <m0biu5> 53K?
[03:13] <m0biu5> holy smack..
[03:13] <sJaM> no othernoob according to bittorrent it uses default from 6881 to 6999
[03:13] <othernoob> martigan: 53000 new emails= and you actually want them??
[03:13] <sJaM> but azureus only uses 1 port Heimdall so just choose a port and opne that one
[03:13] <martigan> hehe not checked that box for a long time ;)
[03:14] <othernoob> a very long time indeed
[03:14] <m0biu5> is that your ISP email?
[03:14] <martigan> no
[03:14] <martigan> company one hehe
[03:14] <m0biu5> ouch.
[03:14] <Heimdall> othernoob, you know something about azureus ports ?
[03:14] <AlexBO> othernoob: why are you used the '1' option?
[03:15] <othernoob> AlexBO: what?
[03:15] <martigan> ill try to remove most of the spam trough webmail now ;)
[03:15] <othernoob> Heimdall: not that much
[03:15] <m0biu5> Before - 53K, after, 42.
[03:15] <martigan> proberly yes
[03:15] <AlexBO> othernoob:sorry. why have you used -d1 (one) and not only -d?
[03:16] <Jonex> How do I remove all files ending with .html in a folder and it's subfolders?
[03:16] <m0biu5> my problem with thunderbird is that it wont let me change any of the settings for the default account - it quietly crashes.. I tried to export my stuff from windows a few months ago when I switched..
[03:16] <m0biu5> it didnt go so well =/
[03:16] <othernoob> AlexBO: because you have to set DMA to 1
[03:16] <martigan> but still a bad thing it lets thunderbird crash :P
[03:16] <othernoob> AlexBO: 1= on, 0=off
[03:16] <Heimdall> othernoob, this is odd, I have openned all ports both tcp and udp between 6881 and 6889, but it is still not downloading
[03:16] <martigan> it can poll the mail but you cant select the folder incoming afte rthat ;)
[03:16] <othernoob> Heimdall: have you tried a different torrent?
[03:17] <Heimdall> othernoob, sJaM has tried the torrent, it works
[03:17] <sJaM> nothing wrong with the torrent
[03:17] <sJaM> I can download on with bittorrent
[03:17] <AlexBO> othernoob: okey. in the manual it wasn't so clear. thank you
[03:17] <sJaM> something that has todo with azureus
[03:17] <othernoob> AlexBO: you're welcome
[03:17] <sJaM> because shields up shows that port as open
[03:17] <Heimdall> yes, azureus too
[03:18] <othernoob> sJaM: i use Azureus and have yet to encounter a problem.
[03:18] <Heimdall> no pb for the ports...
[03:18] <sJaM> well here you have
[03:18] <sJaM> I using bittorrent
[03:18] <Heimdall> othernoob, so, a torrent is not downloading, red head, what would you do ?
[03:18] <othernoob> Heimdall: so you're not connecting to any peers/seeds?
[03:19] <AlexBO> othernoob: have i to modificate hdparm.conf?
[03:19] <Heimdall> othernoob, indeed
[03:19] <othernoob> Heimdall: first i'd check whether this is the only torrent with that problem
[03:19] <othernoob> AlexBO: it wouldn't hurt
[03:19] <vertex> remember that bittornado conflicts with bittorrent and therefore both of them should *not* be installed at the same time
[03:20] <AlexBO> othernoob:okey.thanks
[03:20] <Heimdall> othernoob, it is not... same pb with another torrent
[03:20] <Heimdall> othernoob, and sJaM  has no pb with the torrent, must be something else
[03:20] <othernoob> Heimdall: then i'd assume that it's a problem with your settings
[03:20] <othernoob> and/or connection
[03:20] <bigfoot1> hello, where can i get more fonts for ubuntu, for use in word processing?
[03:20] <Heimdall> othernoob, possible but I don't know then
[03:21] <Heimdall> othernoob, the port in option/connection is set to 6889
[03:21] <Heimdall> and this one is openned.. so... probably not that too
[03:21] <othernoob> Heimdall: weird..tried a diff port?
[03:21] <Heimdall> yes
[03:21] <othernoob> weird indeed
[03:22] <Heimdall> .. :'(
[03:22] <othernoob> Heimdall: does your ISP block these ports?
[03:22] <blacksky> has anyone got Flash working? The hoary-extra source in my sources.list, is being ignored.
[03:22] <sJaM> no
[03:22] <sJaM> Shields up display them as open
[03:22] <sJaM> Jul 16 14:32:44 Heimdall        6889
[03:22] <sJaM> Jul 16 14:32:44 Heimdall        OPEN!   Unknown Protocol for this port
[03:22] <othernoob> mmh..
[03:23] <Proteque> is the ppc-installer capable of resizing partitions like the x86-install?
[03:23] <Heimdall> [15:14:11]  Not monitoring 'filename': tracker available (announce: http://centraltracker.org:81/announce)
[03:23] <Heimdall> what does it mean ???
[03:24] <Raptoid> d14:failure reason56:unsupported tracker protocol, please upgrade your cliente
[03:24] <Heimdall> yes I know
[03:24] <Heimdall> but what does it mean too ??
[03:25] <othernoob> Heimdall: well, have you updated your client?
[03:25] <Heimdall> you mean azureus?
[03:25] <othernoob> yes
[03:25] <Heimdall> in the help menu there is check for update ok ?
[03:26] <Heimdall> i click on it but nothing appears... I assume this means there is no update
[03:26] <othernoob> what version do you have
[03:26] <Heimdall> <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:26] <nagual> Hello. I have hoary main in sources.list, i have a p 4 (3 gig) with two satas, 512 meg ram, an ati radeon 9800 se with 256 megs of ram, and when i install either linux-image-2.6.11-1-686 or linux-image-2.6.11-1-686-smp my computer hangs just when my machine is about to finnish loading gnome (i have logged in to user account, and its just about to populate the buttons in the wm)
[03:26] <to|m> someone an idea why my rythmbox don't have mp3 suppoert. NO mp3 plugin installed? Where to get it?
[03:26] <othernoob> <IP_ADDRESS> is the latest.
[03:27] <nagual> maybe i should try linux-image-2.6.11-1-386
[03:27] <Proteque> noone tested the ppc-installer?
[03:27] <othernoob> Heimdall: tried a different torrent-client?
[03:28] <Heimdall> othernoob, this is not a solution, I won't try a different client each time I have a pb ... :-/
[03:28] <othernoob> Heimdall: sure, but it'd eliminate the possible causes ;)
[03:29] <Heimdall> what other good client to you suggest me ?
[03:29] <onkarshinde> I have some custom keys on my keyboard (Compaq). How do I make them usable in Ubuntu?
[03:29] <othernoob> what's sJaM using Heimdall ?
[03:29] <Heimdall> original bittorent client
[03:29] <Heimdall> http://www.bittorrent.com/  <<[03:30] <sJaM> don't know
[03:30] <sJaM> the one from Bram
[03:30] <sJaM> apt-get install bittorrent bittorrent-gui
[03:31] <othernoob> well, that or bittornado then..both available in the repos
[03:31] <qt2> Heimdall, that only shows up when the tracker isnt available...
[03:31] <Heimdall> qt2,  ?
[03:31] <Heimdall> what is 'that' ?
[03:31] <qt2> that errror...
[03:32] <Heimdall> but it tells it is available
[03:32] <Heimdall> and sJaM can dl it
[03:32] <othernoob> qt2: if the tracker wasn't available it'd at least go to dht and most likely find someone
[03:33] <onkarshinde> I have some custom keys on my keyboard (Compaq). How do I make them usable in Ubuntu?
[03:33] <seeker> Is there something in Kubuntu that overides the bios? I'm wanting to start over and reload ubuntu but now my computer won't boot from cd anymore.
[03:33] <scanwinder> on my old 166 laptop, i have ubuntu installed and im using fluxbox, it takes forever to open up fluxbox, is there anything i can do to speed it up?
[03:33] <qt2> othernoob, http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:KqZ-WFdo6jkJ:sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php%3Fforum_id%3D40629%26style%3Dflat%26viewday%3D6%26viewmonth%3D200503+%22Not+monitoring%22+%22tracker+available%22&hl=en&client=firefox
[03:33] <AlexBO> othernoob: it doesn't work.it's slow
[03:34] <A[D] minS> AlexBO, same with me :) .... slooooooooooow
[03:34] <onkarshinde> I have some custom keys on my keyboard (Compaq). How do I make them usable in Ubuntu?
[03:34] <A[D] minS> but kde much better
[03:34] <Heimdall> sJaM, your bittorent software works
[03:35] <AlexBO> A[D] minS:i hate kde.sloooooow
[03:35] <Heimdall> download is active :/
[03:35] <Heimdall> i don't understand
[03:36] <A[D] minS> looooool
[03:36] <ara> Hi.. Does anyone know anything about having problems burning CDs in Hoary?
[03:36] <qt2> othernoob, read the code ;)
[03:36] <qt2> ara, what sort of problem?
[03:36] <AlexBO> othernoob: i understand. it extract and decodified at the same time.that's why.bye
[03:36] <othernoob> qt2: heh, a bit too much to read ;)
[03:36] <onkarshinde> I have some custom keys on my keyboard (Compaq). How do I make them usable in Ubuntu?
[03:36] <othernoob> AlexBO: okay i guess
[03:36] <Garrison> Anyone have an nForce2 kernel-config I could have?
[03:36] <qt2> othernoob, heh, the parts that pertain to the problem are highlighted thanks to google... ;)
[03:36] <ara> Trying to burn from Nautilus gives an error asking for a blank CD to be inserted, even when the CD is blank. Tried lots of different disks.
[03:37] <qt2> othernoob, a bit more than halfway down the webpage. ;)
[03:38] <Heimdall> sJaM, your client is a little obscure :)
[03:38] <dmk> okeanos, have you tried selecting the compaq keyboards from System - Preferences - Keyboards
[03:38] <onkarshinde> Will seamonkey (new unofficial mozilla suite) ever make to Hoary repositories?
[03:39] <sJaM> no it isn't
[03:39] <yuacht> where can i get cool fonts for ubuntu?
[03:39] <sJaM> depends on what your using
[03:39] <sJaM> I always use
[03:39] <dmk> sorry okeanos, I meant onkarshinde ;-)
[03:39] <Heimdall> sJaM, where are parameters options ?
[03:39] <sJaM> btdownloadcurses
[03:39] <sJaM> look mom, without x hehe
[03:40] <sJaM> just run without any arguments
[03:40] <Heimdall> hum... :)
[03:40] <Heimdall> it has shown that my pb came from azureus, certainly a configuration pb... :-/
[03:40] <sJaM> not many options
[03:41] <sJaM> that's why bittornado has his existense right
[03:41] <ara> qt2, any ideas?
[03:41] <qt2> ara, not really.
[03:41] <qt2> ara, although, i'm a bit sidetracked.
[03:41] <Heimdall> bittornado, another client ??
[03:41] <ara> That makes two of us then ;)
[03:41] <sJaM> forked from bittorrent
[03:42] <sJaM> with more options
[03:42] <Heimdall> I heard that azureus was the best to have .?
[03:42] <sJaM> yes
[03:42] <sJaM> it is one (if it isn't the best) of the best bt clients
[03:42] <sJaM> BitComet seems to gain popularity though
[03:42] <sJaM> but I only use it once in a while
[03:43] <sJaM> and java and linux doesn't play well together
[03:43] <Heimdall> hum, well it would be cool if it could work :)
[03:43] <sJaM> idd
[03:44] <other|study> sJaM: why doesn't java and linux play well together?
[03:44] <sJaM> don't know
[03:45] <sJaM> you think they are ?
[03:45] <lsuactiafner>  CTCP PING reply from lsuactiafner: 577.568 seconds
[03:45] <lsuactiafner> heh that rocked
[03:46] <other|study> sJaM: linux has little to do with java.
[03:46] <qt2> Heimdall, perhaps you should try #azureus to solve your azureus issue?
[03:46] <frodo2441> i'm back i gone to ubuntu and now i have a short log of what i get with pon
[03:46] <sJaM> and tell that your port is open
[03:46] <qt2> Bitcomet sucks majorly by the way, and java and linux play fine together.
[03:46] <sJaM> and that you can download with bittorrent
[03:46] <lsuactiafner> sJaM : linux + java does play well?
[03:46] <Heimdall> qt2, oh i didn't know it exist
[03:46] <Heimdall> :)
[03:46] <qt2> Heimdall, ;)
[03:46] <lsuactiafner> never had problems with java in linux
[03:47] <sJaM> I had
[03:47] <onkarshinde> Which java is best for linuz? Sun, IBM or the one that is in repos?
[03:47] <Heimdall> qt2, #azureus-users is better I think
[03:47] <dj28> java works great in linux. i do a lot of development with it
[03:47] <to0om> me too
[03:47] <lsuactiafner> onkarshinde : sun
[03:47] <sJaM> well if you compare with python
[03:47] <other|study> java works "great" on any system..
[03:48] <lsuactiafner> sun made java. i will trust the offical keepers of java to develop java
[03:48] <Sean___> hey
[03:48] <dj28> onkarshinde: ibm's version isn't fully compliant
[03:48] <sJaM> I don't like java very much :D
[03:48] <dj28> it will not work with a lot of apps
[03:48] <dj28> use sun's
[03:48] <other|study> sJaM: java is the same on every machine..you can't compare it to another language that easily. and if you do, why not compare it with ruby instead :p
[03:48] <blacksky> arggh, this is driving me nuts. Why are some of the sources in my /etc/apt/sources.list getting ignored (Ign:)?
[03:48] <hume> hi...i am trying to make a pxe installation of ubuntu, but cannot get the pxe boot to work - anyone knows how the tftpboot folder are to look like?
[03:49] <sJaM> well because bittorrent is made in python and azureus in java
[03:49] <onkarshinde> Hey anybody of you have tried project looking glass?
[03:49] <Sean___> are there any tweaks for ubuntu/gnome that lets you make a window "Always on top"?
[03:49] <bigfoot1> I found some great .ttf fonts on the internet. In what folder should I put them, in order for my PC (and openoffice) to recognize these new fonts?
[03:49] <sJaM> you can do it with every window onkarshinde
[03:49] <sJaM> sorry
[03:49] <sJaM> you can do it with every window Sean___
[03:49] <sJaM> just click on the icon
[03:49] <other|study> sJaM: well, java is a shitty language. but that has absolutely nothing to do with linux
[03:49] <Sean___> oh :P
[03:49] <linukso> bigfoot1: ~/.fonts
[03:49] <anto9us> Sean___: just right click the title bar and select on top
[03:50] <Sean___> ok
[03:50] <Sean___> thanks :P
[03:50] <bigfoot1> linukso, i'm afraid i don't have that folder. I can't find it in nautilus (file explorer)... 8-(
[03:50] <martigan> hi
[03:50] <onkarshinde> other|study: What maked you think java is shit?
[03:50] <sJaM> othernoob, well perhaps it is just my linux that doesn't work nice with java
[03:50] <linukso> bigfoot1: create it
[03:50] <sJaM> because everythings has to be OOP
[03:51] <bigfoot1> linukso, you mean these new fonts will not be in the folder that has all the old/pre-installed fonts?
[03:51] <martigan> someone could help me? gnome isnt starting up anymore it hangs right after login, i removed some sound modules and added some, has to do with it :S?
[03:51] <other|study> onkarshinde: google for "why i hate java" and you'll find the answers ;)
[03:51] <lsuactiafner> martigan : my guess is you removed the video driver module lol
[03:51] <anto9us> I hate java
[03:51] <linukso> bigfoot1: if you put the fonts in there, they should show up everywhere
[03:52] <martigan> nah dont think the video drivers :P
[03:52] <onkarshinde> IMHO java has made lot of contribution to internet
[03:52] <dj28> they've made a lot of contributions to linux by merely porting it..
[03:52] <other|study> sJaM: ruby is OOP as well and better at it than java :p
[03:52] <Discipulus> Java? Yea.
[03:52] <bigfoot1> linukso, As a newbie, i'm just wondering: is this the usual way of installing new fonts? Don't new fonts belong in the same folder as old fonts?
[03:52] <sJaM> well I like python
[03:52] <sJaM> because you can go either way
[03:52] <martigan> how do i start the gnome sound server i think that is what missing
[03:52] <Discipulus> Java, IMHO, is the only TRULY portable programming language
[03:53] <sJaM> no
[03:53] <Discipulus> I'm not saying it's a good language or a bad language, but it does what it was meant to do
[03:53] <linukso> bigfoot1: fonts available to all users are in /usr/share/fonts/
[03:53] <sJaM> it was ment for multimedia on the internet
[03:53] <linukso> bigfoot1: but you can add personal fonts by putting them in ~/.fonts
[03:53] <linukso> bigfoot1: ~ == you home folder
[03:54] <bigfoot1> linukso, I'm the only user on my computer. No one else uses my computer.
[03:54] <linukso> bigfoot1: then just put them in you personal font folder. If you open fonts:/// in nautilus, they should show up.
[03:54] <sJaM> java isn't very portable because it is not nice to install java on linux
[03:55] <bigfoot1> linukso, do i have to run a command in terminal afterwards?
[03:55] <dj28> sJaM: what in the world are you talking about? it installs on linux just as easily as windows
[03:55] <sJaM> I think C is also very portable
[03:55] <other|study> sJaM: what are you talking about? java is easily installed.
[03:55] <sJaM> just compile it on the os itself
[03:55] <anto9us> you can't get more portable than an application server
[03:55] <linukso> bigfoot1: nope
[03:55] <sJaM> on linux things can be easier installed than on windows
[03:55] <sJaM> imho
[03:55] <sJaM> if atp provides is
[03:55] <thenuke_> sJaM: depends on a thing :)
[03:55] <djp> Discipulus: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html
[03:55] <sJaM> apt
[03:56] <bigfoot1> linukso, if i have a visitor to my home, coming for a vacation, and i create a user account for him, will he be able to use these fonts, too?
[03:56] <lsuactiafner> yeh
[03:56] <thenuke_> sJaM: right
[03:56] <other|study> sJaM: and yet you have problems with java?
[03:56] <sJaM> yes, finding the wiki
[03:56] <lsuactiafner> installin java on windows took me weeks to fing the line to allow java to be run from anywhere
[03:56] <sJaM> clicking on the link
[03:56] <leroj> what do i need to play .wmv?
[03:56] <sJaM> following instructions
[03:56] <dj28> ah yes, the windows path file
[03:56] <other|study> leroj: w32codecs
[03:56] <dj28> worst idea ever
[03:56] <leroj> thanks
[03:56] <sJaM> spoiled ?
[03:56] <sJaM> don't know
[03:56] <anto9us> I abondoned java and decided to go with postgresql and zope, much better solution, java is a nightmare in comparison
[03:56] <linukso> bigfoot1: nope, then you should put in /usr/share/fonts/
[03:56] <sJaM> zope is python
[03:57] <dj28> anto9us: no complaints here. zope is one of the best frameworks ever
[03:57] <dj28> but i like both python and java ;)
[03:57] <sJaM> jython
[03:57] <Bramme> can someone give me the name of a nice RSS reader for gnome with an intergrated browser?
[03:57] <naliothatwrk> bigfoot1 re your earlier question, you can use ANY truetype fonts.  they go on ~/.fonts
[03:57] <dj28> Bramme: firefox ;)
[03:57] <linukso> Bramme: blam or straw
[03:58] <Bramme> thx
[03:58] <bigfoot1> linukso,  so if i understand well, there's no good reason to selfishly put these new fonts in /fonts, correct? Or maybe you can tell me if there is a reason why one should choose to put fonts in /fonts, rather than in /usr/share/fonts, please.
[03:58] <Bramme> dj28, that's a brower with an rss reader intergrated
[03:58] <dj28> ah
[03:59] <onkarshinde> Do I have to restart X after changing keyboard type?
[03:59] <linukso> bigfoot1: the reason for putting them in ~/.fonts/ is that you might want extra fonts on a computer which you don't have root access on.
[04:00] <bigfoot1> linukso, but in my case, since i have sudo access, i should just put new fonts into usr/share/fonts, correct?
[04:00] <naliothatwrk> bigfoot1 if you put them in ~/.fonts, only YOU will have access, in /usr/share/fonts, everyone who uses the puter has access
[04:01] <anto9us> speaking of portability, you guys, xul looks very interesting
[04:01] <onkarshinde> What is exactly different in Ubuntu custom CD for HP laptop?
[04:01] <bigfoot1> linukso, I'm at /usr/share/fonts, i see three sub-folders (truetype; type1; wine) and one file (fonts.cache-1). Do i put the new fonts in this folder, or in one of the 3 sub-folders?
[04:01] <leroj> i am trying to insattl Mplayer, but i get this error: E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?. I tried apt-get update the the problem is still there
[04:01] <Discipulus> djp, very interesting read, thank you
[04:01] <linukso> bigfoot1: truetype
[04:02] <bigfoot1> linukso, what's type1?
[04:02] <linukso> bigfoot1: you might want to create a subfolder in truetype
[04:02] <naliothatwrk> bigfoot1 there are many types of fonts, type1 are adobe style, i believe
[04:02] <bigfoot1> linukso, what name should i give to this new subfolder i will create in truetype?
[04:03] <leroj> i am trying to insattl Mplayer, but i get this error: E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?. I tried apt-get update the the problem is still there
[04:03] <GHt> What do you think about Russia, friends?!
[04:03] <lsuactiafner> ccache stats : cache hit 19618 : cache size 425.1 Mbytes : files in cache 24070 (:
[04:03] <linukso> bigfoot1: type1 = postscript
[04:03] <bigfoot1> naliothatwrk, i see.
[04:03] <linukso> bigfoot1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_1_font
[04:03] <linukso> bigfoot1: whateveryouwant :)
[04:03] <scarlettecho> hi.  I'm trying to install the Opera browser but so far no luck.  Anyone here know how to do this successfully?
[04:04] <bigfoot1> linukso, and i can put more than one font in this new folder? Or should i make a new subfolder for every new font i add?
[04:04] <GHt> What do you think about Russia, my young friends?!
[04:04] <anto9us> GHt: I've never been there but, in my experience, people are the same wherever you go
[04:04] <bigfoot1> GHt, i think they are tall.
[04:04] <linukso> bigfoot1: no no, just put all you own fonts in that folder
[04:04] <bigfoot1> linukso, okie-dokie. 8-)
[04:04] <GHt> anto9us it is interesting opinion
[04:04] <other|study> scarlettecho: just download the .deb from opera.com and then sudo dpkg -i nameof.deb
[04:05] <GHt> bigfoot1 but why do you think so???
[04:05] <naliothatwrk> bigfoot1 linukso was suggesting some order to your font collection, you can have fonts directly under /truetype/ or in folders of descriptive names
[04:05] <bigfoot1> GHt, i just heard that russion people are comparitively tall.
[04:05] <leroj> i am trying to insattl Mplayer, but i get this error: E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?. I tried apt-get update the the problem is still there
[04:06] <scarlettecho> otherstudy, the Opera website link won't work for me.  it says i have something set wrong in my cookies?  I'm using Firefox....
[04:06] <bigfoot1> naliothatwrk, should one care about organizing their new fonts? is there a mess if we just put all new fonts into one folder?
[04:06] <DaZjorz> heya
[04:06] <bigfoot1> 8-)
[04:06] <GHt> bigfoot1 but it's wrong because they are the same tall as other
[04:06] <DaZjorz> I have a partitioning problem...
[04:06] <kbrooks> ask
[04:06] <leroj> i want some help :(
[04:06] <other|study> leroj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories
[04:06] <DaZjorz> how do I make /dev/hde1 my root, but still be able to boot
[04:06] <leroj> i did that
[04:07] <DaZjorz> I also have a /dev/hda btw
[04:07] <anto9us> bigfoot1: I think that's true in comparison to Japanese people, not to Europeans though
[04:07] <GHt> anto9us bingo!
[04:07] <other|study> scarlettecho: then fix what's wrong with your cookies?
[04:07] <bigfoot1> anto9us, i see. 8-)
[04:08] <naliothatwrk> bigfoot1 some users like to keep the fonts they collect in some type of order (by d/l site, by style of font, etc) it is all up to you
[04:08] <DaZjorz> someone who can help me with partitioning ?
[04:08] <bigfoot1> naliothatwrk, i understand. 8-)
[04:08] <GHt> anto9us and what do you think about threre communistic past??
[04:08] <bigfoot1> i'm in the truetype folder, but i can't create a new folder. what's up?
[04:09] <DaZjorz> yes i do
[04:09] <yuacht> DaZjorz, what's the problem
[04:09] <DaZjorz> partitioning
[04:09] <DaZjorz> erm how do i make /dev/hde1 my root
[04:09] <naliothatwrk> bigfoot1 any time you are not in your ~/  folder, you need root permission to write things
[04:09] <DaZjorz> but still be able to boot ?
[04:09] <anto9us> GHt: I don't think it was the communism that Marx and Engels wrote about
[04:09] <linukso> bigfoot1: you need more power! sudo mkdir uber_fonts
[04:09] <bigfoot1> naliothatwrk, how do i give myself permission?
[04:09] <anto9us> GHt: it was elitist
[04:09] <GHt> anto9us you are the smart man!!!!!! respect!
[04:10] <bigfoot1> linukso, uber_fonts?
[04:10] <naliothatwrk> bigfoot1 you can name it what you like, just use "sudo"
[04:10] <linukso> bigfoot1: or whatever you want to name you fontfolder
[04:10] <anto9us> GHt: well, thank you, I'm not as smart as I like to think I am though :)
[04:10] <bigfoot1> can i work through nautilus (gui) rather than terminal to "powerfully" create a subfolder?
[04:11] <troglodyt> DaZjorz , are you doing a fresh install?
[04:11] <DaZjorz> yes
[04:11] <linukso> bigfoot1: you can... but then you would have to start nautilus from a terminal with sudo.
[04:11] <sJaM> yes you can bigfoot1
[04:11] <DaZjorz> i dont need to save anything so partitioning is no problem
[04:11] <naliothatwrk> bigfoot1 it is NOT advised you let nautilus have root priveleges (it can really mess up your user space)
[04:11] <GHt> anto9us and can i dare to ask you where are you from??? and what do you think about Lenin???
[04:12] <troglodyt> ok when you get to the partioning section, you just select hde and format it to ext3 and mount it as /
[04:12] <bigfoot1> naliothatwrk, can it? in that case, i'll do the "sudo mkdir" method ,then.
[04:12] <DaZjorz> no
[04:12] <DaZjorz> if I make a partition on hde and mount it as
[04:12] <DaZjorz> as /
[04:12] <naliothatwrk> bigfoot1 learning the terminal is a good investment in time
[04:12] <DaZjorz> then Linux won't boot
[04:13] <Discipulus> DaZjorz, do you already have Linux installed?
[04:13] <troglodyt> make a small /boot partiontion on hda then
[04:13] <linukso> bigfoot1: terminal is a might friend not to be afraid of :)
[04:14] <DaZjorz> Doscipulus: At the moment, yes, but I am gonna reinstall it cuz it doesnt work this way again
[04:14] <bigfoot1> okay, i've made a subfolder. but now i can't paste the .ttf (true type font) into this new subfolder. Let me guess: i need more power again.?.?  What sudo command do i do?
[04:14] <DaZjorz> Troglodyt: Won't work. It'll boot and say "Waiting for device /dev/hde1 to appear... Not Found"
[04:14] <Discipulus> DaZjorz, you have to set the root partition at install time, you can't change it
[04:15] <DaZjorz> Discipulus: I know, thats why i'm gonna reinstall
[04:15] <troglodyt> what it hde1?  usb drive?
[04:15] <anto9us> GHt: I'm from England, now living in Wales. A working class man working in IT. I think Lenin believed in democracy, I respect anyone who believes in that.
[04:15] <DaZjorz> Everyone: I know how to do partitioning :\ i'm a noob but not such a big noob...
[04:15] <Discipulus> DaZjorz, then reinstall and everything will be fine :-P
[04:15] <DaZjorz> Everyone: Its just that if I make /dev/hde1 my root, then it won't boot anymore.
[04:15] <linux-frodo24> i get disconnnected after connection
[04:15] <Frafra> hi all
[04:15] <DaZjorz> Discipulus: I tried that 3 times. Each a different way. Didn't work.
[04:15] <DaZjorz> Frafra: Hi
[04:15] <linux-frodo24> Jul 16 15:22:12 localhost pppd[15895] : No response to 4 echo-requests
[04:15] <bigfoot1> linukso, naliothatwrk okay, i've made a subfolder. but now i can't paste the .ttf (true type font) into this new subfolder. Let me guess: i need more power again.?.?  What sudo command do i do?
[04:15] <linux-frodo24> Jul 16 15:22:12 localhost pppd[15895] : Serial link appears to be disconnected.
[04:15] <linux-frodo24> Jul 16 15:22:12 localhost pppd[15895] : Connect time 1.5 minutes.
[04:15] <linux-frodo24> Jul 16 15:22:12 localhost pppd[15895] : Sent 4368 bytes, received 4804 bytes.
[04:15] <linux-frodo24> Jul 16 15:22:12 localhost pppd[15895] : Connection terminated.
[04:15] <linux-frodo24> Jul 16 15:22:13 localhost pppd[15895] : Hangup (SIGHUP)
[04:15] <Frafra> i've 20 *.wav
[04:16] <kbrooks> linux-frodo24, HEY!
[04:16] <Discipulus> linukso, paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:16] <Discipulus> er
[04:16] <linux-frodo24> yes?
[04:16] <Frafra> i must write they in a audio cd using shell
[04:16] <DaZjorz> Linux-frodo24: isn't there some paste channel for that
[04:16] <naliothatwrk> bigfoot1 use the "cp" command with sudo  (in a terminal, type "man cp" for basic usage)
[04:16] <kbrooks> don't flood the channel please. linux-frodo24
[04:16] <Discipulus> linux-frodo24, , paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:16] <linux-frodo24> what is that?
[04:16] <kbrooks> pastebin
[04:17] <Discipulus> linux-frodo24, problem with the phoneline, there's either static on the line or the phone company terminated it
[04:17] <linux-frodo24> how i use?
[04:17] <bigfoot1> naliothatwrk, is there a way to give my new subfolder write/copy permission? and is it safe?
[04:17] <Discipulus> linux-frodo24, but I'll bet on the first one ;-)
[04:17] <linukso> bigfoot1: sudo mv ~/folderwhereyoudownloadedthefont/*.ttf /usr/share/fonts/truetype/fontfolder
[04:17] <lsuactiafner> linux-frodo24 : or a network specific modem
[04:17] <DaZjorz> Everyone: If I just set my /dev/hde1 to format and mount it to /, then Linux won't boot
[04:17] <kbrooks> why?
[04:17] <tzafrir_home> I'm testing ubuntu 5.04 . I've added universe through the graphical sources list management.
[04:17] <Discipulus> lsuactiafner, out of the 7 years I've had dial-up I've seen that problem many times, and it's never been my modem.
[04:17] <kbrooks> tzafrir_home, and?
[04:17] <DaZjorz> kbrooks: why was to me ?
[04:17] <linux-frodo24> but windows works and mdk
[04:18] <tzafrir_home> An update went well, but now I have tons of unmet dependencies (apt-cache -i unmet)
[04:18] <kbrooks> DaZjorz, yes
[04:18] <Discipulus> linux-frodo24, it isn't the OS or the modem, it's the phone line, there's nothing you can do
[04:18] <troglodyt> DaZjorz is hde a IDE drive?  where aer you putting grub?
[04:18] <tzafrir_home> e.g: Package python-imdbpy version 1.8-0.1 has an unmet dep:
[04:18] <tzafrir_home>  Depends: python (< 2.4)
[04:18] <tzafrir_home> P
[04:18] <Discipulus> linux-frodo24, is it a recurring error or is this the first time?
[04:18] <linux-frodo24> but wht works for win and mdk?
[04:18] <naliothatwrk> bigfoot1 the permissions are the filesystem the way they are for security reasons (malicious code, malicious people, etc)
[04:18] <linux-frodo24> if is phoneline?
[04:18] <Proteque> Does the ppc-install support resize of partitions?
[04:19] <DaZjorz> Troglodyt: /dev/hde is an IDE drive behind a controller. GRUB is in /dev/hda (MBR) but I don't know how to set up it to boot /dev/hde1
[04:19] <Discipulus> linux-frodo24, there is static on your phone line!!!
[04:19] <naliothatwrk> Proteque it should, yes
[04:19] <Proteque> naliothatwrk: thanx :)
[04:19] <Discipulus> linux-frodo24, doesn't mean there's static on it 24/7, maybe when you connect from windows the phone line's clear?
[04:19] <Discipulus> linux-frodo24, my suggetsion: get DSL or Cable :-P
[04:19] <kbrooks> Discipulus, no no no
[04:19] <Psystorm> I'm a total noob to Linux and can't figure out how to view my NTFS-filesystem partitions with ubuntu.
[04:19] <kbrooks> NO
[04:19] <tzafrir_home> where should I find the package "python" (version < 2.4) ?
[04:20] <Discipulus> kbrooks, are you telling me I'm wrong?
[04:20] <sJaM> it is simple DaZjorz
[04:20] <kbrooks> Discipulus, yes.
[04:20] <pw2subz> hi
[04:20] <sJaM> instead of setup (hd0)
[04:20] <naliothatwrk> !info python2.4
[04:20] <lsuactiafner> tzafrir_home : apt-cache search python
[04:20] <ubotu> python2.4: (An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.4)), section python, is optional. Version: 2.4.1-0 (hoary), Packaged size: 2716 kB, Installed size: 9116 kB
[04:20] <DaZjorz> sJaM: how ?
[04:20] <sJaM> you use setup (hd4,1)
[04:20] <Psystorm> Can anyone help me?
[04:20] <sJaM> if you install via grub shell
[04:20] <Discipulus> kbrooks, umm, I work for a dial-up ISP, I know what I'm talking about....
[04:20] <tzafrir_home> lsuactiafner, apt here reports broken dependencies
[04:20] <lsuactiafner> !info bitchx
[04:20] <ubotu> bitchx: (Advanced Internet Relay Chat client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1:1.0-0c19.20030512-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1352 kB, Installed size: 6232 kB
[04:20] <naliothatwrk> !ntfs
[04:20] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[04:20] <DaZjorz> sJaM: so I just type setup (hd4,1) ?
[04:20] <sJaM> well
[04:20] <DaZjorz> sJaM: i'll try now
[04:20] <sJaM> no
[04:21] <naliothatwrk> Psystorm read what ubotu said re ntfs
[04:21] <sJaM> hehe
[04:21] <DaZjorz> k
[04:21] <sJaM> first you do
[04:21] <frodo2441> damn net
[04:21] <sJaM> a root
[04:21] <Psystorm> ?
[04:21] <DaZjorz> sJaM: i'm in the grub shell.
[04:21] <sJaM> wait a sec
[04:21] <tzafrir_home> lsuactiafner, I originally simply wanted to install icewm. I added the universe soruces for that.
[04:21] <Psystorm> I didn't want to resize my NTFS partition, I wanted to view it.
[04:21] <bigfoot1> linux-frodo24, thank you!
[04:21] <sJaM> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[04:21] <leroj> i still can't get Mplayer to work
[04:21] <DaZjorz> sJaM: Private conversation please? I can't see anything.
[04:21] <bigfoot1> naliothatwrk, thank you/ arigato
[04:21] <sJaM> ok
[04:22] <linukso> Psystorm: did you search for ntfs in synaptic? There are tools there...
[04:22] <naliothatwrk> Psystorm if you d/l that script, it'll mount your nfts read-only
[04:22] <bigfoot1> maggotbrain, why that nickname? 8-)
[04:22] <lsuactiafner> apt-get instal icewm shoudl work..
[04:22] <Psystorm> Aha, doesn't tell me much, I'm a total beginner.
[04:22] <pink_maggit> hehe
[04:22] <pink_maggit> my other irc nickname
[04:22] <Discipulus> linux-frodo24, it's the phone line, I'll bet a million dollars on it, I'll guarantee it.
[04:23] <linukso> Psystorm: synaptic is in the System-> Admin menu in the top left corner.
[04:23] <pink_maggit> i think its a network specific modem now authentication properly against the isp...
[04:23] <Psystorm> Yeah, I searched it.
[04:23] <bigfoot1> linukso, naliothatwrk i don't see these new fonts in openoffice version 1. Do i have to restart openoffice?
[04:23] <Psystorm> I think I need libntfs5, right?
[04:24] <linukso> bigfoot1: hm, try to log in and out...
[04:24] <frodo2441> so i call my isp since nobody call help me?
[04:24] <frodo2441> or i go back to mdk ?
[04:24] <frodo2441> anyone reads me?
[04:24] <kbrooks> frodo2441, yesq i read u
[04:24] <kbrooks> frodo2441, call your isp
[04:25] <frodo2441> ok
[04:25] <kbrooks> frodo2441, say that the phone line is going static
[04:26] <wise> anyone has ubm?
[04:26] <tzafrir_home> my sources.list is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/621 .  apt-cache -i unmet produces 130 lines
[04:26] <lsuactiafner> tzafrir_home : have you run apt-get update recently?
[04:26] <tzafrir_home> lsuactiafner, yup. verified it
[04:27] <tzafrir_home> lsuactiafner, this is a fresh install, BTW
[04:28] <bigfoot1> how can i see all the characters/symbols that a truetypefont file offers?
[04:28] <Psystorm> I now executed the script and installed libntfs5, so where can I find my ntfs partitions?
[04:28] <lsuactiafner> tzafrir_home : apt-get check
[04:29] <dam> ubuntu guide?
[04:29] <tzafrir_home> lsuactiafner, returned no error. Problem persists
[04:29] <Discipulus> dam, don't use ubuntu guide
[04:29] <dam> where is wiki?
[04:29] <Discipulus> dam, wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:29] <dam> what ver should firefox be?
[04:30] <lsuactiafner> hmm
[04:30] <Discipulus> 1.0.4
[04:30] <dam> mine is 1.0.2
[04:30] <tzafrir_home> hmmm... not exactly. Still tons of unmet dependencies. but I seem to be able to install icewm
[04:30] <dam> synatptic didnt update it
[04:30] <Discipulus> !firefox
[04:30] <ubotu> firefox is probably version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[04:30] <Discipulus> backported = binary patch
[04:30] <Discipulus> it says 1.0.2, but it's 1.0.4
[04:31] <dam> im getting errors when i try to bookmark pages in firefpx
[04:31] <lsuactiafner> tzafrir_home : run synaptic see if it helps in anyway
[04:31] <Discipulus> what error?
[04:31] <lsuactiafner> tho i'm just guessin now, dont know much about apt-get since i compile from source
[04:32] <dam> na its working now, reboot musta fixed it
[04:32] <lsuactiafner> apt-get build-dep icewm but thats not really what you are supposed to run
[04:32] <dam> got error on openoffice
[04:32] <Discipulus> lsuactiafner, compile from source and use checkinstall ?
[04:32] <Discipulus> dam, what error?
[04:33] <dam> couldnt copy it. im doing it again. 12 minutes remainging
[04:33] <lsuactiafner> Discipulus : scripts i have to automate cvs + installation
[04:33] <bigfoot1> a website offers a font in three formats: mac ttf; mac ps1; pc ttf. Which one should i get?
[04:33] <dam> skype can run on ubuntu?
[04:33] <Discipulus> lsuactiafner, ah, alright
[04:34] <Discipulus> dam, yes
[04:34] <Discipulus> dam, is the error something about an md5sum mismatch?
[04:34] <Bols> Discipulus, and what about firefox 1.0.5? it has been released 3 days ago...
[04:34] <dam> yer. dats it
[04:35] <Discipulus> Bols, Ubuntu Hoary Repos are only updated on security fixes
[04:35] <Discipulus> !usrepos
[04:35] <ubotu> methinks usrepos is if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror.  Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:35] <Discipulus> dam, ubotu methinks usrepos is if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror.  Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:35] <Bols> Discipulus, 1.0.5 version is a security fixes version...
[04:36] <linux-frodo24> my isp has no support for linux
[04:36] <dam> not many in .au do.
[04:37] <bigfoot1> naliothatwrk, linukso: a website offers a font in three formats: mac ttf; mac ps1; pc ttf. Which one should i get?
[04:38] <Garrison> bigfoot1; pc ttf
[04:38] <bigfoot1> Garrison, thanks. just wondering. mac fonts won't work?
[04:38] <dam> Discipulus, http://au.archive.ubuntu.com is what i have. should i still change it?
[04:40] <Garrison> Id' just think PC fonts would be better. You know.. PC .. MAC? lol, I'd go PC just to be safe.
[04:40] <psybafire> is it possible to play games that usually run in windows, on ubantu?
[04:40] <kbrooks> !firefox
[04:40] <ubotu> well, firefox is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[04:41] <Garrison> !tell psybafire about wine
[04:41] <kbrooks> !firefox =~ s/4/5
[04:41] <ubotu> kbrooks: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:41] <kbrooks> firefox =~ s/4/5
[04:41] <kbrooks> ubotu, firefox =~ s/4/5
[04:41] <kbrooks> ubotu, firefox =~ s/4/5/
[04:41] <ubotu> OK, kbrooks
[04:41] <Garrison> psybafire; google for wine and cedega
[04:41] <kbrooks> ubotu, firefox
[04:41] <ubotu> rumour has it, firefox is version 1.0.5 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[04:41] <psybafire> thanks, ill do that now.
[04:41] <kbrooks> ubotu, firefox =~ s/5/4/
[04:41] <ubotu> kbrooks: OK
[04:42] <Garrison> someone knows perl substitution
[04:43] <ramblingturtle23> I cant'
[04:43] <kbrooks> Garrison, s/// is not specific to perl.
[04:44] <Garrison> =~ s/Garrison/The.Craz3d(.*)/ig
[04:44] <ramblingturtle23> i cant get firefox extensions to install and the work around doesn't seem to work at all. Anybody with any suggestions on how to get extensions working
[04:44] <sls> does any on know how to get swedish support in evloution?
[04:44] <kbrooks> ramblingturtle23,
[04:44] <kbrooks> !firefox
[04:44] <ubotu> it has been said that firefox is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[04:44] <kbrooks> ^^^^ this?
[04:45] <dam> my general.useragent.vendorSub had value of 1.0
[04:45] <ramblingturtle23> ubotu- i did that but had to change it to what is now version 1.0.5 and that work around is not working
[04:46] <kbrooks> ramblingturtle23, 1.0.4
[04:46] <kbrooks> ramblingturtle23, he is a BOT!
[04:47] <Discipulus> ramblingturtle23, he's a bot dude
[04:47] <AlexBO> Hello!I've just downloaded with synaptic an issue of linux gazzette.how can i see it?
[04:47] <ramblingturtle23> kbrooks, a bot dude? what does that mean
[04:47] <Discipulus> AlexBO, /usr/share/doc if I believe
[04:48] <Discipulus> ramblingturtle23, a bot as in a robot
[04:48] <kbrooks> ramblingturtle23, i didnt say that!
[04:48] <Garrison> "he ert a program"
[04:48] <ramblingturtle23> kbrooks. sorry this is still all a little new to me
[04:49] <Chrischan> whos a bot? :o)
[04:49] <ramblingturtle23> ok if there is no work around to make version 1.0.4 seem like 1.0.5 then how would i install a tar in ubuntu?
[04:50] <Chrischan> ramblingturtle23, first, i would extract it and watch out for a INSTALL.TXT or README.TXT
[04:50] <lsuactiafner> !firefox
[04:50] <ubotu> methinks firefox is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[04:50] <lsuactiafner> !info firefox
[04:51] <lsuactiafner> ramblingturtle23 : you can create a chroot of another idstribution iwth a more recent versin of glibc to run 1.0.5 from mozilla
[04:52] <AlexBO> Discipulus: for the next time, where i can find informations like this of an installed programs?
[04:52] <kbrooks> lsuactiafner!
[04:52] <Discipulus> AlexBO, Not really sure, hold on, I'll figure it out
[04:52] <kbrooks> don't give confusing advice!
[04:52] <lsuactiafner> thats not confusing..
[04:53] <ramblingturtle23> ubotu, i have tried this but now the newest version is 1.0.5 and it seems if you don't have this version installed you cant download extensions. That work around dosn't work for me right now because i have 1.0.4 installed already
[04:53] <ubotu> ramblingturtle23: what are you talking about?
[04:53] <lsuactiafner> "1.0.2" to "1.0.5" aint confusing.. and the chroot is a very good idea for a more experienced user..
[04:53] <kbrooks> lsuactiafner, not for a newb!
[04:53] <lsuactiafner> ramblingturtle23 : type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.5"
[04:53] <lsuactiafner> he might not be a n00b
[04:54] <AlexBO> Discipulus:ok
[04:55] <Discipulus> hmm
[04:55] <Discipulus> I'm not entirely sure
[04:55] <Discipulus> someone else in here might know though
[04:55] <ramblingturtle23> Ok my general.useragent.vendorcommet is changed from version 1.0.4 to 1.0.5 but i can still not download extensions
[04:55] <chrissturm> hey, how can i override my nickname for some networks in x-chat?
[04:55] <Discipulus> ramblingturtle23,  you don't need the latest versions
[04:55] <Discipulus> ramblingturtle23, if you wanted the latest of everything then I'd say use Breezy, but that isn't a good suggestion for a n00b
[04:56] <kbrooks> ramblingturtle23, vendorSun
[04:56] <kbrooks> sub
[04:56] <Discipulus> !firefox
[04:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, firefox is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[04:56] <kbrooks> Sub
[04:56] <troglodyt> general.useragent.vendorSub not .vendorcomment
[04:56] <kbrooks> not comment
[04:56] <Discipulus> heh
[04:57] <Discipulus> ramblingturtle23, download extensions or install extensions?
[04:57] <kbrooks> ubotu, firefox =~ s/firefox/firefox on warty/
[04:57] <ubotu> kbrooks: that doesn't contain 'firefox'
[04:57] <Discipulus> ramblingturtle23, because if you can't download them then the problem isn't firefox
[04:57] <kbrooks> ubotu, !firefox =~ s/firefox/firefox on warty/
[04:57] <ubotu> i didn't have anything called '!firefox', kbrooks
[04:57] <kbrooks> ubotu, firefox =~ s/firefox is/firefox on warty is/
[04:57] <ubotu> kbrooks: that doesn't contain 'firefox is'
[04:57] <kbrooks> !firefox
[04:57] <ubotu> firefox is, like, version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[04:57] <kbrooks> lol.
[04:58] <Discipulus> !firefox
[04:58] <kbrooks> ubotu, forget firefox
[04:58] <ubotu> kbrooks: i forgot firefox
[04:58] <Discipulus> ubotu, tell me about ubuntuguide
[04:58] <ramblingturtle23> kbrooks, THANK YOU! that was the hole problem right there i will make a note of that for future reference. Extension can now be installed
[04:58] <kbrooks> ubotu, firefox is <reply> Firefox on warty is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[04:58] <ubotu> kbrooks: okay
[04:59] <Discipulus> !firefox
[04:59] <ubotu> Firefox on warty is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[04:59] <kbrooks> Changed.
[04:59] <troglodyt> make it to 1.0,.5 now
[04:59] <chrissturm> what software does ubotu run?
[04:59] <Discipulus> what lang is ubotu in?
[05:00] <lsuactiafner> ubotu is a chinese kid working for us
[05:00] <ubotu> I don't know, lsuactiafner
[05:00] <lsuactiafner> yes you do ubotu think back deep inside you know its true..
[05:02] <sls> does anyone know how to enable multilanguage support in gnome?
[05:02] <sls> e.g. Frenc, Swedish?
[05:02] <sls> French that was...
[05:02] <lsuactiafner> ubuntu-fr or something
[05:03] <ramblingturtle23> anybody know if ubuntu is working on a control center for the next release?
[05:04] <Kyral> GNOME Control Center
[05:04] <Kyral> already there :P
[05:05] <Raptoid> whats uninstall *.deb files ?
[05:05] <lsuactiafner> dpkg -r
[05:05] <sls> Raptoid: apt-get remove "packagename"
[05:06] <lsuactiafner> or that..
[05:06] <chrissturm> is there another option to refresh the menus after installing an app than killall gnome-panel?
[05:07] <dam> Discipulus, now up to date.
[05:08] <dam> cann anyone recommend some good fax software for ubuntu? external modem. tested and worked on knoppix
[05:08] <nightswim> hylafax?
[05:12] <AlexBO> hello!i've just downloaded the package "lg-all" for all issues of linux gazette, but it lacks of the last nine! the most up2date lg that i've got is the 107, but the last is the 116!how can it be?
[05:12] <_one_> jst is
[05:12] <_one_> i gues
[05:13] <mjkelly93> anyone have a sec to help me get fglrx working, i have it installed and everything but when i set it as a driver and restart, X hangs?
[05:14] <_one_> maybe i used to do alot of fglrx driver compiles/installs
[05:14] <mjkelly93> thatd be great
[05:14] <_one_> pm me
[05:14] <gigaclon> I keep getting MD5 mismatch when downloading some packages
[05:14] <mjkelly93> in ur sources.list      remove the "us." from all the archives
[05:15] <gigaclon> ok
[05:15] <leroj> i have removed us. from all archives, now i can't get any updates :S
[05:15] <delire> mjkelly93: i built the latest fglrx against a 2.6.12 kernel i compiled and it also hangs. 2.6.10 is fine. i haven't had time to look into it.
[05:15] <kbrooks> apt-get update
[05:16] <kbrooks> !usarchive
[05:16] <ubotu> I don't know, kbrooks
[05:16] <mjkelly93> really delire?
[05:16] <leroj> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:16] <leroj> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:16] <delire> mjkelly93: what kernel are you?
[05:16] <mjkelly93> im runni 2.6.10-5-386 tho, just the default kernel
[05:17] <delire> leroj: are you root? and or are you running an apt-get process elsewhere?
[05:17] <leroj> hmm
[05:17] <delire> leroj: sudo apt-get update
[05:17] <qt2> <.<;
[05:17] <kbrooks> ubotu, usarchive is <reply> us.archive is broken. Edit your sources.list and remove the "us."  Then YOU MUST sudo apt-get update, and everything will work.
[05:17] <ubotu> okay, kbrooks
[05:17] <lsuactiafner>    <pairo> you know you're doomed when you have to whois your domain registrar ID to find out your own phone number
[05:17] <lsuactiafner> lol
[05:17] <AlexBO> hello!i've just downloaded the package "lg-all" for all issues of linux gazette, but it lacks of the last nine! the most up2date lg that i've got is the 107, but the last is the 116!how can it be?
[05:18] <kbrooks> !usarchive
[05:18] <ubotu> us.archive is broken. Edit your sources.list and remove the "us."   Edit your sources.list and remove the "us."   Edit your sources.list and remove the "us."  Then YOU MUST sudo apt-get update, and everything will work as normal with no md5sum errors.
[05:19] <kbrooks> okay.
[05:19] <kbrooks> brb
[05:20] <ed1t> ubotu, usarchive
[05:20] <delire> kbrooks: hehe
[05:20] <AlexBO> delire: well...so how can i downloaded them with synaptic?
[05:21] <delire> AlexBO: i doubt you can, as i said it's more likely the package maintainer hasn't added recent issues.
[05:22] <AlexBO> delire: he forgot ONE YEAR!!!
[05:22] <delire> AlexBO: think of it in the context of seoftware, he's a version or two behind ;)
[05:22] <delire> s/seoftware/software
[05:22] <Novice> HEY can ANYONE help me with this installation issue
[05:22] <delire> AlexBO: yes, it's not good, send him an email.
[05:23] <delire> Novice: so you just installed it fine and then on reboot you receive this error?
[05:23] <AlexBO> delire: well, who is him?
[05:23] <Novice> yes
[05:23] <lsuactiafner> Novice : means the kernel ubuntu installed by default doesnt recognise your hard disk..
[05:23] <lsuactiafner> i had the same problem and i had to make my own kernel..
[05:23] <delire> Novice: sometimes you have to be patient to receive help - especially while others are being helped.
[05:23] <Novice> ok
[05:23] <delire> lsuactiafner: ouch!
[05:23] <delire> Novice: what architecture? is it a SATA disk?
[05:23] <Novice> but i think its grub error, kernel is not in picture yet
[05:24] <Novice> pc pentium 3 IDE
[05:24] <lsuactiafner> delire : had to find a gentoo 64bit box on the net, make a kernel, install the kernel from a slackware disk (:
[05:24] <delire> Novice: right. i would use the LiveCD, if you have it handy.
[05:24] <AlexBO> delire: i've found his e-mail.thanks
[05:24] <delire> lsuactiafner: jesus..
[05:24] <delire> AlexBO: no problem
[05:25] <lsuactiafner> another reason why i make my own kernels..
[05:25] <delire> AlexBO: this sort of thing is rare.
[05:25] <Novice> i got its iso image with some magzine, thought of giving it a try, really dont have anything apart from tht iso image
[05:25] <delire> lsuactiafner: yes but for new users ... ouch
[05:25] <mjkelly93> Guys where should the driver fglrx.ko be located in my file tree to determine that its installed right?
[05:25] <delire> Novice: it's a shame this has happened. do you have any other Linux LiveCD around?
[05:26] <Novice> yes LFS
[05:26] <delire> mjkelly93: if you can modprobe -l | grep fglrx.ko then it's in the right place. the next question is whether it's the version you want to be running  - have you install an fglrx driver before?
[05:26] <delire> s/install/installed.
[05:27] <jkka> I got my 20 Hoary CD's today
[05:27] <jkka> gotta go spread em around
[05:27] <jkka> 10 wartys were gone in couple of days
[05:27] <delire> mjkelly93: FYI mine is in lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko
[05:27] <mjkelly93> ok i found it in about 7 places
[05:27] <mjkelly93> no i havent
[05:27] <kritty> hello all.... anyone want to kelp with a wireless setup?
[05:27] <mjkelly93> so is mine
[05:28] <mjkelly93> cept the kernel number is diff
[05:28] <delire> mjkelly93: if there is any fglrx in your module path (see above) then there's a problem.
[05:28] <delire> mjkelly93: your module path begins here /lib/modules/$(uname -r)
[05:28] <mjkelly93> hmm   my module path....
[05:28] <mjkelly93> ok hehe
[05:28] <jcfreak> kritty: what part are you having a prob with?
[05:29] <mjkelly93> yeah all of them are
[05:29] <delire> where 'uname -r' outputs the current running kernel version.
[05:29] <mjkelly93> yes yes   they all are
[05:29] <Novice> ok i try with LFS LCD
[05:29] <mjkelly93> theres 7 different copies in those /lib/modules/2.6.-10-5/kernel/drivers/videofglrx./ko
[05:29] <kritty> jcfreak... I have no wep on and I want to use WPA
[05:29] <_one_> K
[05:29] <mjkelly93> theres 6 others     i'd cp and paste but it says not to
[05:30] <delire> mjkelly93: all of them? paste the output of 'updatedb && locate fglrx | grep $(uname -r)' into a pastebin.
[05:30] <LinuxJones> kritty, have you seen the howto on the wiki ? >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:30] <DaZjorz> HELP!!
[05:30] <_one_> dont let newbs help newbs
[05:30] <delire> mjkelly93: it will take a while.
[05:30] <delire> mjkelly93: i want to be sure..
[05:30] <LinuxJones> _one_, that's how you learn :)
[05:30] <kritty> LInux Jones... thanks.... My husband did this install last night
[05:30] <_one_> thats how u ruin things
[05:30] <DaZjorz> ...
[05:30] <DaZjorz> please
[05:30] <mjkelly93> ok
[05:30] <kbrooks> DaZjorz, ask
[05:30] <kbrooks> DaZjorz, ask
[05:30] <mjkelly93> its taking a while
[05:30] <DaZjorz> kbrooks
[05:30] <DaZjorz> look up
[05:30] <DaZjorz> BOOTSTRAP EROR
[05:31] <DaZjorz> Invalid release file
[05:31] <DaZjorz> No entry for Main/binary~/Packages
[05:31] <mjkelly93> /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko
[05:31] <delire> DaZjorz: this happens when you do what?
[05:31] <LinuxJones> kritty, don't get discouraged if your new to Linux wifi can be problimatic for many folks :)
[05:31] <kbrooks> DaZjorz, breezy?
[05:31] <mjkelly93> /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/misc/video/fglrx.ko
[05:31] <ACSpike> Are there non-free (possibly legally encumbered) packages in the universe repository?
[05:31] <delire> kritty: congratulations!
[05:31] <mjkelly93> theres alot more of them too
[05:31] <DaZjorz> Delire: When I install
[05:31] <DaZjorz> KBrooks: Breezy ?
[05:31] <DaZjorz> ..?
[05:31] <sJaM> gtg cu guys
[05:31] <kbrooks> ACSpike, multiverse?
[05:32] <delire> mjkelly93: paste the output of that command into a pastebin.
[05:32] <DaZjorz> cu sJa<
[05:32] <DaZjorz> M*
[05:32] <delire> mjkelly93: pastebin.com
[05:32] <mjkelly93> a pastebin..... hmm
[05:32] <DaZjorz> Delire: it happens when I install.
[05:32] <delire> DaZjorz: what were you doing before this error occurred?
[05:32] <delire> DaZjorz: be honest ;)
[05:32] <leroj> yay
[05:33] <leroj> finally i have Mplayer
[05:33] <DaZjorz> Erm, well, it was setupping, and it failed installing the kernel, but that happened before
[05:33] <delire> leroj: ;)
[05:33] <DaZjorz> so I did partitioning again and then setup
[05:33] <DaZjorz> and this error appeared
[05:33] <mjkelly93> ok all done
[05:33] <delire> DaZjorz: hoary?
[05:33] <DaZjorz> normally when I try to install base
[05:33] <delire> mjkelly93: send me the URL
[05:33] <DaZjorz> delire: no idea. i just ordered some cd's
[05:33] <delire> DaZjorz: but you have been compiling a custom kernel.
[05:33] <DaZjorz> delire: i think so though
[05:34] <mjkelly93> http://pastebin.com/314476
[05:34] <DaZjorz> delire: No I haven't.
[05:34] <DaZjorz> Delire: I just inserted the CD.
[05:34] <DaZjorz> and then installed
[05:34] <kritty> THANKS!   My husband has been using ubuntu for 6 wks and I liked what i saw.  Just this wireless config is left.
[05:34] <ACSpike> kbrooks: I'm asking about universe. I want to avoid installing patent encumbered software but some of the apps I need (tv card) are in universe.
[05:34] <DaZjorz> and as normal, at 71%, it stops installing cuz kernel failed
[05:34] <delire> DaZjorz: what architecture?
[05:34] <DaZjorz> i386
[05:35] <delire> kritty: yes, with certain cards it can be a pain. most work well however.
[05:35] <mjkelly93> did that work delire ?
[05:35] <DaZjorz> Delire: i386
[05:36] <kritty> delire ... well it's working but I just want to secure it a little more and fine tune the flow
[05:36] <SAM_theman> how do i change my resolution
[05:36] <SAM_theman> Srry forgot to say hi
[05:36] <DaZjorz> Delire: I'll reset the PC and run setup again.
[05:36] <delire> kritty: ahah
[05:36] <delire> DaZjorz: ok.. luck
[05:36] <DaZjorz> ty
[05:36] <SAM_theman> hmmm
[05:36] <delire> mjkelly93: how did you install this fglrx?
[05:37] <anto9us> SAM_theman: Hi, System | Preferences | Screen Resolution
[05:37] <delire> mjkelly93: from the install method provided by the ATI site or the ubuntu package?
[05:37] <SAM_theman> yeah i know
[05:37] <mjkelly93> first i tried downloading the rpm version and using alien to change it to a deb from ati
[05:37] <SAM_theman> it just gives me 640*800
[05:37] <mjkelly93> then i tried ubuntu
[05:37] <mjkelly93> uninstaleld ubuntu cuz it did nothing
[05:37] <mjkelly93> then ran the SH script from ati
[05:37] <dmoney> ok how do i play mp3s it says i need a plugin
[05:37] <mjkelly93> and that one instaleld correctly
[05:38] <dmoney> nforce 2 mobo
[05:38] <anto9us> SAM_theman: then you need to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[05:38] <delire> mjkelly93: when did you install it? '/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko'
[05:38] <mjkelly93> yesterday
[05:38] <SAM_theman> hmmm my dad is using a ati card
[05:38] <jcfreak> dmoney: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[05:38] <delire> mjkelly93: sorry 'ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko'
[05:39] <dmoney> someone pm i need some serious help
[05:39] <delire> mjkelly93: is the date returned yesterday?
[05:39] <mjkelly93> -rw-r--r--  1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-07-16 00:35 /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko
[05:39] <mjkelly93> actually early this morning hehe
[05:39] <kritty> ath0 is my wireless card ... right?
[05:39] <delire> mjkelly93: you have fglrx.ko files in misc/. i would delete all these and reinstall using the ATI method. you have duplicate drivers from a previous install
[05:40] <ACSpike> kbrooks: I'm asking about universe. I want to avoid installing patent encumbered software (like mp3) but some of the apps I need (tv card) are in universe.
[05:40] <delire> kritty: or eth0..
[05:40] <anto9us> SAM_theman: look for the default screen and depth and add the required modes beneath it
[05:40] <mjkelly93> ok which ati method?   the run script or the rpm and alien?
[05:40] <delire> kritty: or eth1, or wlan0 (depending on the hardware
[05:41] <kbrooks> ACSpike, i dont know.
[05:41] <dmoney> any help here
[05:41] <jcfreak> dmoney: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[05:41] <dmoney> i've had same problem with every llinux install
[05:41] <mjkelly93> what command should i run to delete all those fglrx's
[05:41] <mjkelly93> ?
[05:41] <dmoney> ok i'll rey
[05:41] <delire> mjkelly93: i use alien to convert the rpm, then i install the deb, then in 'cd /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod && sh make.sh && cd .. && sh make_install.sh'
[05:41] <dmoney> *try
[05:42] <delire> mjkelly93: manually delete them
[05:42] <mjkelly93> ok
[05:42] <mjkelly93> yes thats the way i built mine
[05:42] <ACSpike> kbrooks: thanks, with further reading I get the impression it doesn't.
[05:43] <delire> mjkelly93: once done, make sure 'fglrx' is in the file /etc/modules, reboot and 'glxinfo | grep direct' to check whether you have hardware accelleration.
[05:43] <delire> mjkelly93: one should only ever use *one* method for installing fglrx ;)
[05:43] <mjkelly93> hehe ic ic
[05:44] <delire> mjkelly93: you (and fair enough) have tried two methods, which conflict.
[05:45] <A[D] minS> checking tcl build dir... configure: error: Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev
[05:45] <delire> A[D] minS: what are you compiling?
[05:45] <A[D] minS> delire: cause i want to install amsn CVS
[05:45] <A[D] minS> so i have to compile :)
[05:46] <delire> A[D] minS: ok, is there a 'INSTALL' file in the source package with the list of dependencies required to build said software?
[05:46] <A[D] minS> just wana know what da  name package =  tcl-dev
[05:46] <delire> A[D] minS: apt-cache seach libtcl | grep dev
[05:46] <delire> sorry..
[05:46] <delire> A[D] minS: apt-cache seach tcl | grep dev
[05:47] <warty> help
[05:47] <delire> A[D] minS: here, this returns a likely candidate: tcl8.4-dev
[05:47] <warty> i cant work on ubuntu
[05:48] <delire> A[D] minS: apt-cache search|show is your friend
[05:48] <delire> warty: what's up?
[05:48] <flodine> whats up with k3b and ubuntu
[05:48] <LinuxJones> flodine, is there a problem ?
[05:48] <flodine> k3b and ubuntu ERROR ERROR ERROR
[05:48] <warty> after loading ubuntu i have no panel no right click.....i cant do anything
[05:48] <delire> A[D] minS: either that or use synaptic, and search for it.
[05:49] <linux-frodo24> i hate ubuntu or it hates me
[05:49] <warty> i have gettys but i dont know what to do
[05:49] <flodine> Linuxjone when i burn a cd i get errors
[05:49] <delire> linux-frodo24: what are you trying to do?
[05:49] <delire> flodine: does it work using nautilus?
[05:49] <A[D] minS> thx delire
[05:50] <delire> A[D] minS: anytime, good luck with compiling that program.
[05:50] <flodine> Linuxjone when i burn at a slower speed it burns but nothing on cd after done
[05:50] <linux-frodo24> stay online connected
[05:50] <linux-frodo24> i get cut after 1.9 minutes
[05:50] <mjkelly93> ok delire, all done.   i removed all those fglrx files, then went and ran both scripts successfully
[05:51] <other|study> any set release date for breezy yet?
[05:51] <warty> HELP HELP HELP
[05:51] <leroj> bye
[05:51] <LinuxJones> flodine, you don't have the simulate checkbox or whatever it's called ticked off ?
[05:51] <flodine> no
[05:51] <delire> linux-frodo24: 'sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog' and look for a possible cause.
[05:52] <linux-frodo24> i did and i have same log problem
[05:52] <delire> linux-frodo24: nearly everything on a linux system is logged.
[05:52] <delire> linux-frodo24: what is
[05:52] <A[D] minS> delire: compiled :)
[05:52] <delire> "same log program"
[05:52] <delire> A[D] minS: congrats ;)
[05:52] <linux-frodo24> i know want me to paste ?
[05:52] <warty> CAN ANYBODY HELP ME TO FIX MY HOARY?
[05:52] <delire> warty: don't shout, be patient. not many people here right now
[05:52] <warty> ok
[05:52] <DaZjorz> not many people who can answer questions xP
[05:53] <delire> warty: i am helping others right now..
[05:53] <DaZjorz> but much people who HAVE questions
[05:53] <delire> DaZjorz: perhaps, it's saturday ;)
[05:53] <linux-frodo24> how i paste without flooding ?
[05:53] <DaZjorz> Delire, you help him, my first error will appear in minimally 5 minutes
[05:53] <DaZjorz> and I gtg now
[05:53] <DaZjorz> cu in 5 mins
[05:53] <delire> linux-frodo24: please use pastebin.com
[05:53] <delire> ok by DaZjorz
[05:53] <flodine> LinuxJone if i use nautilus will it burn it as and iso
[05:53] <delire> warty: what's up?
[05:53] <linux-frodo24> what is that a web?
[05:53] <warty> after loading hoary
[05:53] <delire> warty: explain in detail the boot error.
[05:54] <warty> after log in
[05:54] <linux-frodo24> or an irc command?
[05:54] <warty> apears only the wallpaper of hoary
[05:54] <warty> no panel
[05:54] <delire> warty: linux-frodo24: yes
[05:54] <delire> warty: hmm..
[05:54] <warty> no right click.........
[05:55] <warty> nothing
[05:55] <linux-frodo24> how i use it?
[05:55] <delire> warty: odd. sadly i am not a gnome expert, as i don't run gnome here.
[05:55] <delire> linux-frodo24: try
[05:55] <warty> what do i have to do.........?
[05:55] <Zerboxx> If I'm running ubuntu on a 500mhx, 196mb computer, what would "you" recommend to speed things up???
[05:55] <delire> warty: that must be frustrating. is this a *fresh* install?
[05:55] <chrissturm> Zerboxx, run xfce
[05:55] <HappyFool> gdm has logs in /var/log/gdm/, with names like ':0.log'
[05:55] <linux-frodo24> who /pastebin doesn't work
[05:55] <chrissturm> Zerboxx, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[05:55] <warty> no
[05:55] <delire> Zerboxx: use a lighter window manager. i reccommend openbox.
[05:55] <warty> is an old one
[05:56] <linux-frodo24> im new to irc as i hate irc
[05:56] <chrissturm> linux-frodo24, use http://rafb.net/paste
[05:56] <delire> warty: be honest, what were you doing *before* this first happened?
[05:56] <Zerboxx> chrissturm: delire: I've never used another window manager (as my main box is more then powerful enough) what does it change?
[05:56] <warty> try do reinstall the applets
[05:56] <mjkelly93> delire, i rebooted and i needa get that command off u again to check and see about installation.
[05:57] <martigan> is there an app like kweather for gnome?
[05:57] <delire> linux-frodo24: go to the website http://pastebin.com and paste in the text you wish to show me and then give me the URL to the pastebin.com page you created.
[05:57] <warty> delire?
[05:57] <chrissturm> Zerboxx, you can then select it in gdm
[05:57] <delire> warty: ok, did you edit a file to do this?
[05:57] <mwe> fluxbox
[05:57] <warty> nope
[05:57] <warty> from synaptic
[05:57] <slept> exit
[05:57] <delire> warty: which applets? gdesklets?
[05:57] <linux-frodo24> where nick i put urs?
[05:57] <thoreauputic> martigan: right click the panel and look for the weather applet
[05:57] <warty> capplets
[05:58] <HappyFool> martigan: i don't know kweather; try right clicking on the panel, and choose 'add to panel', and look for 'Weather report'
[05:58] <delire> warty: i would go to another console <CTRL-ALT-F1> and login and 'sudo dpkg -P the package.
[05:58] <warty> after that i tried the recovery mode and nothing
[05:58] <delire> warty: these X applets are conflicting with gnome session i think.
[05:59] <linux-frodo24> now what i clicked paste
[06:00] <HappyFool> linux-frodo24: tell us the URL that appears in the address bar
[06:00] <linux-frodo24> copy and paste from the web?
[06:00] <linux-frodo24> ok
[06:00] <delire> HappyFool: thx, i need a hand here. a bit busy ;)
[06:00] <mjkelly93> hehe sorry
[06:00] <linux-frodo24> http://rafb.net/paste/results/zrriBJ45.html
[06:01] <JavaOnLinux> hello, any of u r using Dell D800 series? any idea of getting the wireless to work?
[06:01] <mjkelly93> i rebooted and all after installed, can u cp and paste me that command u wanted me to run delire ?
[06:01] <SAM_theman> IS Gdesklets site down????????????????
[06:01] <SAM_theman> IS Gdesklets site down????????????????
[06:01] <delire> mjkelly93: glxinfo | grep direct
[06:01] <mjkelly93> ok
[06:01] <HappyFool> delire: cool :)
[06:01] <HappyFool> linux-frodo24: that's your pppd errors?
[06:02] <mjkelly93> direct rendering: No
[06:02] <mjkelly93> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:02] <HappyFool> linux-frodo24: do you know what modem you have?
[06:02] <flodine> can you update k3b to 11.24
[06:02] <delire> mjkelly93: how did that turn out?
[06:02] <mjkelly93> good
[06:02] <mjkelly93> everything went well
[06:02] <linux-frodo24> i have that problem too mjkelly
[06:02] <delire> mjkelly93: a 'yes'? from that command?
[06:02] <mjkelly93> nice im not the only one
[06:03] <mjkelly93> well i ran the command and thats what i got
[06:03] <mjkelly93> there was no question
[06:03] <linux-frodo24> i give up mdk to use 3d card on ubutu
[06:03] <delire> mjkelly93: hehe great, you have fglrx setup now.
[06:03] <delire> mjkelly93: test the frame rate with 'glxgears'
[06:03] <mjkelly93> same as before   ~200
[06:03] <HappyFool> linux-frodo24: do you know what modem you have?
[06:04] <linux-frodo24> yes
[06:04] <mjkelly93> my fglrxinfo says im using Mesa 3d
[06:04] <linux-frodo24> genius 56k external
[06:04] <HappyFool> linux-frodo24: ok, what is it?
[06:04] <HappyFool> external? hmm
[06:04] <HappyFool> i thought those worked without problems, usually
[06:04] <delire> mjkelly93: so 'glxinfo | grep direct' returned a "direct rendering: YES" and you have that frame rate?
[06:04] <mjkelly93> no it said no
[06:04] <mjkelly93> look
[06:05] <mwe> heh
[06:05] <mjkelly93> mjkelly93 direct rendering: No
[06:05] <mjkelly93> mjkelly93 OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:05] <delire> mjkelly93: ok, not setup yet then. there are other files we need to remove.
[06:06] <mjkelly93> should i reformat delire ?     i havent installed anything yet
[06:06] <HappyFool> linux-frodo24: how did you setup your dial-up connection?
[06:06] <rook5> hello how do i view C: drive from live cd??
[06:06] <delire> mjkelly93: no, it's fine. can you 'ls -l ls /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so' and paste the output in a pastebin?
[06:06] <linux-frodo24> well with sudo pppconfig
[06:07] <mjkelly93> sure
[06:07] <HappyFool> linux-frodo24: ok
[06:07] <linux-frodo24> and then also with pppgnome
[06:07] <delire> mjkelly93: sorry, make that 'ls -l ls /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so*' and paste the output in a pastebin?
[06:07] <HappyFool> !windows
[06:07] <ubotu> I guess windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[06:07] <linux-frodo24> now i tryed with manualy scripts
[06:07] <HappyFool> !ntfs
[06:07] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ntfs is the filesystem used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[06:07] <HappyFool> rook5: read that last link (winmac_fstab)
[06:08] <HappyFool> linux-frodo24: and they all give the same error?
[06:08] <mjkelly93> http://pastebin.com/314497   delire
[06:08] <linux-frodo24> yes
[06:09] <rook5> HappyFool: look for it on the wiki?
[06:09] <linux-frodo24> in mdk i think i also have that problem but  kdialer works fine in mdk
[06:09] <linux-frodo24> is the only dialer good to me
[06:09] <quique> #ubuntu-es
[06:10] <linux-frodo24> cool ubuntu espaol
[06:10] <HappyFool> rook5: there's some stuff there; i was referring to this http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[06:10] <mjkelly93> brb delire
[06:10] <blacksky> what does it mean when an "apt-get update" ignores certain sources, like this: "Ign http://public.planetmirror.com hoary-backports Release"
[06:11] <flodine> flux and ubuntu work so good together
[06:13] <blacksky> the full output is here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/622
[06:13] <delire> i have to go..
[06:13] <HappyFool> linux-frodo24: i'm running short on ideas
[06:13] <Winux> Gnome-Baker sucks
[06:13] <delire> sorry anyone not helped thoroughly yet.
[06:14] <linux-frodo24> i have one but only if someone tell me how to get on rendering 3d on X on mdk
[06:15] <HappyFool> linux-frodo24: typically ati/nvidia make drivers available for download on their sites
[06:15] <linux-frodo24> if i had render on in mdk i whould go to ubuntu
[06:15] <mjkelly93> ok im back delire       any more advice for this fglrx?
[06:16] <Winux> Does anybody know how to change prepag preferences in Gnome-Baker?
[06:16] <HappyFool> linux-frodo24: you should be able to get them to work with mandrake
[06:16] <linux-frodo24> yes but i c that is not easy u have to compile some kernel in mdk
[06:16] <Winux> How delete pause between songtracks?
[06:16] <linux-frodo24> i can't find any easy good tutorial
[06:16] <{Phoinix}> Hello everyone from Greece. Where can i find repositories for ubuntu 5.04. In google i'm finding only Debain repositories. The only repostiories tha i've found  for ubuntu is from ubuntuguide.org But when i use them i get crc errors :-(
[06:16] <linux-frodo24> for mdk
[06:17] <HappyFool> {Phoinix}: try archive.ubuntu.com
[06:17] <{Phoinix}> HappyFool, thanks :-)
[06:17] <HappyFool> linux-frodo24: ask in #mandriva (for mandrake)
[06:17] <DekaPink> That's odd... I just booted into my ubuntu partition and it has an icon on the desktop for the mounted windows system which has never been there before. :3
[06:17] <linux-frodo24> ok
[06:18] <HappyFool> linux-frodo24: i'm sorry, but i don't have any more ideas for your dial-up problem
[06:18] <linux-frodo24> do u hate windows unable to copy like in x11?
[06:18] <linux-frodo24> thx anyways
[06:18] <Garrison> Anyone want to test out a little utility I just wrote? It's like 'cp' but easier to use (uses an X file dialog for file selection) and gives a terminal progress-bar
[06:18] <linux-frodo24> c u
[06:19] <marcus> how do i download msn messenger on ubuntu?
[06:19] <Garrison> marcus; use Gaim?
[06:19] <{Phoinix}> marcus, apt-get install gaim
[06:19] <Garrison> marcus; alt+F2 and type 'gaim' press enter (without quotes)
[06:20] <marcus> i have gaim already
[06:20] <marcus> but i dont now how to use it
[06:20] <Garrison> marcus; tools > accounts
[06:20] <Garrison> marcus; pretty easy
[06:20] <ScOrpion-boy> hi anyone can help me?
[06:21] <mjkelly93> anyone know anythng about this fglrx or why it installed right and wont render 3d?
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> ati can be a pain in the backside
[06:21] <marcus> im not sure how its used how do i create an account?
[06:21] <mjkelly93> ur tellin me its about a week now of trying this
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> but it was a fairly easy setup on the last ubuntu box i made. :P
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> took all of 60 sec. On my ati9700
[06:22] <mjkelly93> it was fairly easy on FC4, ubuntu is hell
[06:22] <FUSiONX> what is a good cd burning app?
[06:22] <dj28> marcus: go to Tools -> Accounts
[06:22] <mjkelly93> 9250 here
[06:22] <dj28> marcus: then press Add
[06:22] <mjkelly93> i like k3b
[06:22] <dj28> at the bottom
[06:22] <dj28> marcus: then select the Protocol, which is AIM, MSN, etc
[06:22] <ScOrpion-boy> this is the matter.. I'm trying to intstall NVIDIA driversI managed get as root in consolke but when I start it says "it appears you running a X server" what is that and how can I solve it? please
[06:22] <dj28> marcus: and then enter the rest of the info
[06:23] <dj28> and repeat for any accounts you have
[06:23] <FUSiONX> if I want to install xmms I just type in the console -i whateverxmms.deb
[06:23] <FUSiONX> right?
[06:23] <mjkelly93> i wish i was having problems installing a nvidia driver =(
[06:23] <lsuactiafner> anyone know of a rar cracker?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> ScOrpion-boy,  check the binary driver wiki/docs page at ubuntu's page. you  may be going about it the wrong way.
[06:23] <rook5> i mounted windows partition, but when i try to display it 'sudo cd /mnt/windows' it gives me sudo: cd: command not found??
[06:23] <ScOrpion-boy> Dr_Willis ?
[06:23] <mjkelly93> u cant sude a cd command
[06:24] <FUSiONX> There are rar password crackers out there but most likely it will not work
[06:24] <mjkelly93> sudo
[06:24] <mjkelly93> try just cd /mnt/windows
[06:24] <mjkelly93> anyone have extensive knowledge about FGLRX or shitty ATI?
[06:24] <FUSiONX> mjkelly93, If I wanted to install xmms I just type -i whateverxmms.deb in the konsole right
[06:25] <mjkelly93> try    sudo apt-get install xmms
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> ScOrpion-boy,  the procedure is very well documented when i did it a month ago.. tookl me just a min. dident have to do anything in the console if i recall.
[06:25] <FUSiONX> what ius apt?
[06:25] <mjkelly93> or try    system > administration > synaptic   and search for XMMS
[06:25] <ScOrpion-boy> so you sayin I'm the wring file?
[06:25] <highvoltage> FUSiONX: Advanced Package Management
[06:25] <marcus> yo tanks guys
[06:25] <mjkelly93> apt is the debian based program and dependency fetcher
[06:25] <highvoltage> with super cow powers
[06:26] <FUSiONX> where is that at?
[06:26] <marcus> i owe u guys lunch
[06:26] <Madpilot> morning, all.
[06:26] <mjkelly93> FUSiONX, just open a console,   right click on desktop and choose open console,    then copy and paste or type in there        sudo apt-get install xmms
[06:26] <mjkelly93> that should work
[06:26] <highvoltage> FUSiONX: you use apt-get
[06:26] <highvoltage> ie, apt-get install apache2
[06:26] <FUSiONX> alright thanks, will that also download it too?
[06:26] <marcus> tanks loads guys
[06:26] <mjkelly93> yes
[06:26] <highvoltage> or apt-get install tuxracer
[06:26] <mjkelly93> and install it
[06:26] <highvoltage> FUSiONX: yes
[06:26] <FUSiONX> holy ubuntu!
[06:26] <dj28> marcus: np
[06:27] <mjkelly93> its a little tricky to get it to play mp3s tho
[06:27] <FUSiONX> because it doesn't have a codec?
[06:27] <Madpilot> last night I installed the Rute Linux Book from Synaptic - rutebook - but I can't find where it installs itself! Find Files hasn't been any use - anyone know where it hides?
[06:27] <mjkelly93> yeah or something to do with licensing and that nonsense
[06:27] <FUSiONX> Then what is a good MP3 player for Linux?
[06:28] <FUSiONX> Jukbox?
[06:28] <mjkelly93> check out   ubuntuguide.org   and scroll down for the xmms section
[06:28] <mjkelly93> or search the page for xmms
[06:28] <kbrooks> Madpilot,
[06:28] <Madpilot> ack, nevermind... /usr/share/doc/rutebook - just had to ask Synaptic where it put it...
[06:28] <mjkelly93> then copy and paste those commands in a console, u can copy and paste them all at once
[06:28] <FUSiONX> thanks
[06:29] <mjkelly93> yup
[06:29] <rook5> mjkelly93: when i just cd /mnt/windows its says bash: cd: windows: Permission denied
[06:29] <mjkelly93> is it mounted?
[06:29] <Madpilot> rook5: who owns that directory?
[06:30] <rook5> Madpilot: dunno.. i probably didnt mount it with user priviliges?? i did mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows
[06:31] <egg> .... just a option
[06:31] <egg> aye
[06:31] <Mobius> anyone have some out-of-the-ordinary program suggestions I could check out?
[06:31] <Madpilot> rook5: check in Nautilus for ownership? (I can't remember the command line for checking ownership right now...
[06:31] <Madpilot> Mobius: Wanda the Fish
[06:32] <Madpilot> :)
[06:32] <mwe> ls -l
[06:32] <psystorm_> Need help installing php5 on ubuntu
[06:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how to tell how much room is on yer hard drive in human speak?
[06:32] <mbirkis> ChurcH_of_FoamY: df -h
[06:32] <kbrooks> disk free -human
[06:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thanx
[06:32] <marcus> need help again
[06:32] <Mobius> lol Madpilot..
[06:32] <marcus> what do i use to download stuff?
[06:32] <Madpilot> ChurcH_of_FoamY: or the bottom-left corner of Nautilus
[06:32] <mleaste> for some reason I cannot install Java... can anyone help really quick
[06:33] <punkrockguy318> How can I install ubuntu with netboot?
[06:33] <raven3x7> hello
[06:33] <^DodGeR^> df -h
[06:33] <djp> marcus: synaptic
[06:33] <mwe> you need mount -o umask 0222
[06:33] <raven3x7> marcuss stuff?
[06:34] <Mobius> anyone here have suggestions for web development tools?
[06:34] <HappyFool> punkrockguy318: take a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetbootInstallHowto
[06:34] <mleaste> could anyone help me with installing sun's java on ubuntu?
[06:34] <HappyFool> !java
[06:34] <ubotu> from memory, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:34] <kbrooks> brb
[06:34] <HappyFool> mleaste: that page has several options
[06:34] <Madpilot> Mobius: Screem or Bluefish. both in repos, I prefer Screem slightly
[06:34] <mleaste> thank you
[06:35] <raven3x7> whats a working option for dc++ under ubuntu/linux. what i found on websites is rather confusing. any suggestions?
[06:35] <djp> Mobius: i use emacs, however if you want a simple dreamweaver alternative, try nvu
[06:35] <punkrockguy318> Hackmo, can you do a net install with the install CD?
[06:35] <Ju1ce> why doesn't sudo work for me? I always get authentication failure even though the password is alright
[06:35] <Mobius> what about for FTP guys? I gues I could get used to gFTP
[06:36] <HappyFool> punkrockguy318: (i assume that's for me) i don't know -- that is the only resource i can direct you to
[06:36] <HappyFool> Ju1ce: what error do you get?
[06:36] <punkrockguy318> HappyFool, alright, thank you!
[06:36] <Madpilot> Mobius: in Nautilus, you can "mount" other sites directly. no need for a seperate FTP program. good thing, becuase gFTP is pretty awful...
[06:37] <Mobius> Madpilot: I agree, it isnt too impressive. Do you suggest mounting over using gFTP or somesuch?
[06:37] <Ju1ce> it just asks the password over and over again
[06:37] <Ju1ce> su works
[06:37] <jcfreak> anyone know a repository for mono 1.1.8?
[06:38] <HappyFool> Ju1ce: did you enter a root password during ubuntu install?
[06:38] <Madpilot> Mobius: I prefer it for the three sites I run! makes FTPing just a matter of copy-n-paste in Nautilus
[06:38] <mwe> Ju1ce, you need to type your own password, not the root, you know?
[06:38] <Mobius> Is there any speed difference Madpilot?
[06:38] <Mobius> I remember my windows days, doing it thru IE was crap...
[06:38] <Madpilot> Mobius: File --> Connect to Server in Naut...
[06:38] <Ju1ce> well, that was something too unlogic :D
[06:39] <Madpilot> Mobius: can't say WRT speed difference
[06:39] <raven3x7> anyone using dc++ here? is dcgui or dcgui-qt better?
[06:39] <Madpilot> sorry, I've got to go. workign Saturdays bites
[06:39] <JDahl> Mobius, if you have ssh on the machines, rsync is easier than ftp
[06:40] <Mobius> thanks JDahl, ill take a look into it
[06:40] <Ju1ce> well, now I added myself to the sudoers list
[06:41] <Ju1ce> thanks for the answer for my stupid question.
[06:41] <marcus> can i use bitcommet on ubuntu?
[06:42] <other|study> marcus: afaik, bitcomet is only available for windows
[06:42] <lesshaste> any mencoder experts here?
[06:42] <JDahl> Mobius, I couldnt live without rsync... from reading the man page it might not look that great, but it actually is
[06:42] <marcus> so wat would u suggest i use?
[06:42] <raven3x7> marcus there's still azureus available
[06:42] <lesshaste> got a tricky problem
[06:42] <Mobius> What do you use it for JDahl?
[06:43] <lesshaste> JDahl, try zsync
[06:43] <mbirkis> marcus: why not use bittornado?
[06:43] <Wimpie> anybody around that knows apache a bit ?
[06:43] <FUSiONX> I only messed with it with win32
[06:44] <FUSiONX> and one some webhosting accounts
[06:44] <Mobius> anyone else use brightside?
[06:44] <Wimpie> hmm.  I have a FollowSymLink problem.  Does not seem to work
[06:44] <marcus> ic
[06:44] <marcus> tanks
[06:45] <JDahl> Mobius, it lets you synchronize directories between computers, and only updates changed files which saves alot of bandwidth
[06:45] <raven3x7> so noone uses dc++? wow
[06:45] <FUSiONX> My internet is REALLY slow with Ubuntu
[06:45] <darkwise> Ya wow.
[06:45] <DaZjorz> ERROR: Unable to install the selected kernel: linux-386
[06:45] <FUSiONX> almost not usable
[06:45] <darkwise> Who wants to use shit with spyware?
[06:45] <DaZjorz> ???
[06:45] <darkwise> moron
[06:46] <FUSiONX> any else experince this?
[06:46] <keikoz> DaZjorz installing with a cd-rom or synaptic ?
[06:46] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: what does 'uname -r' say?
[06:46] <ompaul> fuisiox what kind of a conneciton have you got?
[06:46] <kyle_> hello.. supernoob here.. need help on a few things anyone like to help out for a few minutes?
[06:46] <FUSiONX> DSl
[06:46] <lsuactiafner> DaZjorz : why kernel 386?
[06:46] <FUSiONX> DSL*
[06:46] <DaZjorz> errm i'll try HappyFool
[06:46] <FUSiONX> 3/384
[06:46] <dani> skype doesn't work
[06:46] <FUSiONX> fast in windows
[06:47] <FUSiONX> but in Ubuntu is s l o w
[06:47] <DaZjorz> HAppyFool: 2.10.6-5-386
[06:47] <^DodGeR^> kyle_, can u be a bit more specific ?
[06:47] <keikoz> FUSiONX probably bad driver/configuration
[06:47] <DaZjorz> 2.6.10 i mean
[06:47] <lsuactiafner> DaZjorz : 386 is for very slow pcs... look for 586 or something
[06:47] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: 2.6.10-5-386
[06:47] <FUSiONX> its onbard
[06:47] <FUSiONX> baord*
[06:47] <FUSiONX> board* there lol
[06:47] <lsuactiafner> someone help him, i dont use ubuntu kernels.
[06:47] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: ok, what are you trying to do?
[06:47] <DaZjorz> lsuactiafner: i'm installing the normal
[06:47] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: i'm trying to install Ubuntu ^^
[06:47] <FUSiONX> I'll install a Linksys card
[06:47] <FUSiONX> thanks
[06:48] <DaZjorz> server installation so minimum
[06:48] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: ... ok. what are you running at the moment?
[06:48] <kyle_> i've just got ubuntu running, i'm trying now to get bittorrent to work.
[06:48] <lsuactiafner> DaZjorz : yeh, 2.6.10 is new enough, but its compiled for a pc thats 10yrs old..
[06:48] <DaZjorz> WHo says my server isn't 10 yrs old xP
[06:48] <keikoz> DaZjorz i had same pbl once, the cd was bad in fact
[06:48] <FUSiONX> is there a good newsreader for download from newsgroups?
[06:48] <lsuactiafner> get 2.6.10 compiled for a i586 pc
[06:48] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: where did you run that command? the live cd ?
[06:48] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: No, it just installed
[06:48] <keikoz> i had to burn it another time and it worked
[06:48] <marcus> how do u install azureus on linux which version of linux do i chose?
[06:48] <djp> kyle_: it is installed by default under hoary
[06:48] <DaZjorz> I ran the command you gave
[06:48] <DaZjorz> on console 2
[06:48] <DaZjorz> (ALT+F2)
[06:48] <FUSiONX> i'll install it on my xbox
[06:48] <FUSiONX> lol
[06:49] <djp> just follow the torrent link and it should prompt you from there on...
[06:49] <DaZjorz> Marcus: what versions are available
[06:49] <raven3x7> DaZjorz, pan maybe?
[06:49] <DaZjorz> i386 ?
[06:49] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: it sounds like things are ok -- what generated the previous error?
[06:49] <DaZjorz> raven: Pan? whats that
[06:49] <ompaul> FUSiONX, cap your upstream to 85% of the cap using a traffic shaper like http://lartc.org/wondershaper/ sorry I only know of this - I guess if all you were doing was web it would be fast but if you are uploading it will kill your download connection
[06:49] <HappyFool> DaZjorz: the error regarding 'not able to install linux-386'
[06:49] <DaZjorz> HappyFool: Previous error ?