[08:33] <yashi_> elopio: pushed with --overwrite
[15:13] <DexterF> hi
[15:14] <DexterF> I'd like to have the 4.2 kernel from snappy in ubuntu-mate pi2 edition, is there a deb package I can download and install there?
[17:19] <DexterF> heya
[17:20] <DexterF> does anybody have core 15.04 running right now and could get me the .config file of the latest kernel, or tell me where I can get it?


[05:25] <Kilos> morning all
[06:20] <Kilos> hmm... inetpro  its working now, you left off an s. as in starting-pages not page
[07:08] <Symmetria> morning
[07:08] <Kilos> hi Symmetria
[08:10] <Kilos> hi psyatw
[08:10] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[08:10] <psyatw> is it quiet today?
[08:11] <Kilos> yeah
[08:11] <psyatw> are people off in ZA as well?
[08:11] <Kilos> yes
[08:11] <Kilos> long weekend
[08:11] <psyatw> I'm at the office because here it's not a holiday as far as I know
[08:11] <psyatw> but I will be off on Monday
[08:12] <Kilos> ah
[08:13] <psyatw> or maybe because we work for other countries, where it's not a holiday today
[08:13] <Kilos> ya that could be
[08:49] <Squirm> Morning
[08:56] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[09:48] <inetpro> good morning everyone
[09:48] <inetpro> Kilos: I did it on purpose
[09:48] <Kilos> lol swine
[09:49] <Kilos> good morning to you anyway
[09:49] <inetpro> you should never execute commands blindly without looking what it is
[09:49] <Kilos> im supposed to be able to trust you
[09:50] <Squirm> inetpro: what command is that?
[09:52] <Kilos> go to the folder ~/Projects/ubuntu-africa/starting-pages and then 'nikola build && nikola serve'
[09:52] <Kilos> note s added
[09:56] <Kilos> inetpro  the site looks good to me except for the third thing
[09:56] <Kilos> the join us button
[09:59] <Kilos> i have no idea what to do about a mailing list for the whole of africa and finding clever peeps to help there
[10:01] <Kilos> you been missing all the fun Squirm  with all the site building stuffs
[10:02] <Kilos> and you havent even got involved in our trello
[10:02] <Kilos> getting slack in your old age
[10:10] <Squirm> Kilos: Sorry, It's not that exciting for me :P
[10:10] <Kilos> lol
[10:11] <Kilos> you just scared the pro gives you work to do
[10:11] <Squirm> No
[10:11] <Squirm> Web dev/design is boring ;)
[10:22] <inetpro> Kilos: sorry
[10:22] <Kilos> for what inetpro  ?
[10:22] <inetpro> for missing the s
[10:22] <Kilos> np man
[10:23] <inetpro> :-)
[10:31] <Kilos> i was kinda poegaai last night and didnt battle much today
[10:34] <Squirm> inetpro: what did you do?
[10:43] <inetpro> Squirm: not me, mopkop
[10:44] <inetpro> Squirm: https://code.launchpad.net/~prysdieheer/ubuntu-africa/starting-pages
[10:47] <Kilos> inetpro  http://bin.snyman.info/zpq46
[10:47] <Kilos> should he add what i added there
[10:50] <inetpro> Kilos: if you want to modify anything on top of his project or just add other pages, you can simply create a branch of his project
[10:51] <inetpro> cd ~/Projects/ubuntu-africa && bzr branch starting-pages more-pages
[10:51] <Symmetria> https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/11088980_10153302861140528_534843900691926524_o.jpg
[10:52] <Symmetria> :) I just saved that from my cat
[10:54] <inetpro> Kilos: then just commit your changes and push your branch so others can see it
[11:02] <Kilos> man i asked for you opinion
[11:04] <Kilos> and i asked for what to do about mailing list etc
[11:04] <Kilos> wb pieter2627
[11:05] <pieter2627> ty Kilos
[11:05] <Kilos> when are you getting involved pieter2627  ?
[11:06] <Kilos> inetpro  i dont want to commit stuff and break everything again
[11:06] <pieter2627> actually want to ask about this website you guys are talking about. What is it?
[11:06] <Kilos> its a site for ubuntu-africa
[11:06] <Kilos> do you know bzr and nikola
[11:07] <inetpro> Kilos: just don't modify and commit anything in trunk, then you are safe
[11:07] <Kilos> inetpro  do you have the flys link for the site\
[11:07] <Kilos> the info one so pieter2627  can see
[11:07] <pieter2627> bzr barely (know some git). Will have to research nikola
[11:08] <Kilos> nikola is easy i think, the work gets done in bzr
[11:09] <inetpro> http://ubuntu-africa.snyman.info/
[11:09] <Kilos> but anyway pieter2627  look at https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco
[11:09] <Kilos> ty pro
[11:09] <Kilos> pieter2627  go see the link pro gave and keep refreshing
[11:10] <inetpro> ai!
[11:11] <Kilos> wat ai! jy nou weer
[11:11] <inetpro> not exactly like it's being updated frequently at the moment
[11:11] <Kilos> he can maybe see something he would like to tackle
[11:14] <pieter2627> I see the css is bootstrap. Is there a reason a customizer was used and not the raw less files worked with?
[11:14] <Kilos> inetpro  answer
[11:15] <Kilos> i think the css gets dropped
[11:15] <inetpro> pieter2627: see: https://trello.com/c/hRfmh5Kd
[11:15] <inetpro> we're using nikola as a tool to create static pages
[11:16] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[11:16] <Kilos> no what?
[11:16] <Kilos> or should i saw why?
[11:16] <inetpro> where do you see css getting dropped?
[11:17] <Kilos> did moppie say something about that
[11:17] <Kilos> didnt
[11:17] <inetpro> uh
[11:17] <Kilos> oh maybe rss
[11:19] <pieter2627> inetpro got it, will see what I can do in a bit
[11:20]  * inetpro wbbl
[11:20] <Kilos> ok
[11:20] <Kilos> ty
[11:36] <Squirm> inetpro: what is fun, is getting someone to run this command in their terminal
[11:36] <Squirm> :(){ :|:& };:
[11:37] <Squirm> Yes, it really is a command
[11:37] <Kilos> sjoe what happens
[11:47] <Squirm> Kilos: try it for yourself :)
[11:48] <Kilos> nono pro said dont try untrusted commands
[11:49] <Symmetria> https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xat1/t31.0-8/11109144_10153304127910528_116123116930705200_o.jpg <[11:49] <Symmetria> (look closely and see if you spot the total fail)
[12:58] <inetpro> Kilos: well done
[13:00] <inetpro> Squirm: you naughty boy!
[13:00] <inetpro> have you tried running it?
[13:08] <pieter2627> For the curious minded: http://askubuntu.com/a/159494/164891
[13:19] <Squirm> inetpro: who? me?
[13:19] <Squirm> Yeah
[13:19] <Squirm> The output was interesting
[13:19] <Squirm> Kilos: It doesn't break anything
[13:19] <Squirm> Well... Nothing a reboot wouldn't fix
[13:20] <Kilos> hi Mopkop
[13:21] <Kilos> is the por ignoring you??
[13:21] <Kilos> -pro
[13:21] <inetpro> a very powerful little fork bomb that keeps replicating itself
[13:21] <Kilos> lol
[13:22] <Kilos> inetpro  how come you dont greet peeps when im sleeping
[13:22] <Kilos> mopppiieeeee
[13:23] <inetpro> Kilos: he didn't greet when he stepped in either
[13:24] <Kilos> ai! sies
[13:25] <inetpro> was Squirm's fault
[13:25] <Kilos> lol
[13:25] <Kilos> all i taught him he still knows nothing
[13:25]  * inetpro was preoccupied
[13:25] <Squirm> Only thing I'd have done is made you restart
[13:25] <Squirm> :P
[13:25] <Squirm> inetpro: did you run it?
[13:26] <inetpro> Squirm: no, I've seen it before
[13:26] <Squirm> First time I've seen it is last night
[13:26] <Squirm> that I can recall anyway
[13:26] <Kilos> inetpro  can the site go live like that with the third link opened and under developement there
[13:27] <inetpro> Kilos: you tell me
[13:27] <Kilos> oh my
[13:28] <Kilos> what else is missing
[13:28] <inetpro> ai!
[13:29] <Kilos> ya you right there isnt any ai! there
[13:29] <Kilos> you must have read the chat with Neo31
[13:30] <Kilos> you not supposed to just lurk mentor
[13:31] <Kilos> grrrr
[13:31] <Neo31> back
[13:31] <Kilos> hi back
[13:32] <Neo31> what's up Kilos ?
[13:33] <Kilos> man we have most of the site going locally and inetpro  wont tell me if it can go online like that
[13:33] <Kilos> then hopefully the planet peeps can get involved
[13:36] <Kilos> i go get sheep
[13:51] <inetpro> Kilos: check " build ubuntu-africa site"
[13:52] <Kilos> on trello?
[13:53] <inetpro> ai tog, the link is relevant
[13:54] <Kilos> what link
[13:54] <Kilos> kop seer man
[13:54] <inetpro> ^
[13:54]  * Squirm looks around
[13:55] <Squirm> 2 hours before I need to get to the airport
[13:55] <Squirm> Today is slowly tocking by
[13:55] <Squirm> ticking
[13:55] <Kilos> lol
[13:55] <Kilos> tick tocking
[13:55] <Squirm> Meh, 2 hours before I even need to leave
[13:55] <Squirm> I guess another movie is in order then
[13:56] <Squirm> So I'll be off
[13:56] <Squirm> Probably chat to you all next Sunday
[13:56] <Kilos> go safe Squirm
[13:57] <inetpro> bye Squirm
[13:57] <Kilos> have a great time
[13:57] <Squirm> Indeed
[13:57] <inetpro> have a good flight and enjoy the rest
[13:57] <Squirm> margate - Here I come
[13:58] <Kilos> oh all those top buttons dont work
[13:58] <inetpro> Kilos: did you click the link?
[13:58] <Kilos> what link man?
[13:59] <Kilos> ai!
[13:59] <inetpro> https://trello.com/c/hRfmh5Kd/45-build-ubuntu-africa-site
[13:59] <Kilos> ya i saw that
[13:59] <Kilos> lots of reading
[14:01] <inetpro> after the long description there is a checklist called "Tasks"
[14:01] <Kilos> yes ive been past that
[14:01] <Kilos> content unticked
[14:02] <inetpro> exactly, plus more stuffs
[14:02] <Kilos> so dont just sit there fix it so fly can see
[14:03]  * inetpro thought you and Mopkop worked on that after all my suggestions of text
[14:04] <Kilos> no we both break stuff so put in your safe hands
[14:04] <inetpro> no can do
[14:04] <Kilos> ai!
[14:06] <Kilos> i dont see a get involved page even
[14:06] <inetpro> ah, nou praat ons
[14:07] <inetpro> now you're doing what we pay you for
[14:07] <Kilos> isnt the get involved part for peeps to join the irc channel
[14:08] <Kilos> ai!
[14:08] <Kilos> thats covered in the learn more
[14:10] <Kilos> hi magespawn  rescue me
[14:10] <pieter2627> Has anyone hit the following error in `The Simple Method` for setup in the link inetpro provided: src/lxml/lxml.etree.c:8:22: fatal error: pyconfig.h: No such file or directory
[14:11] <Kilos> nope
[14:11] <inetpro> hmm...
[14:12] <inetpro> superfly: where are you when pieter2627 needs you?
[14:12] <Kilos> and me
[14:13] <Kilos> did you install all the stuffs pieter2627
[14:13] <Kilos> sudo aptitude install bzr qbzr python-virtualenv python-webassets
[14:13] <inetpro> I think there's more needed
[14:13] <magespawn> hi Kilos, from what?
[14:14] <Kilos> from the treble hook the pro is dangling me on
[14:14] <inetpro> I'm not sure whether all these are needed but I did
[14:14] <inetpro> sudo aptitude install bzr git libxml2-dev libxslt1-dev python-dateutil python-dev python-pygments python-virtualenv zlib1g-dev qbzr
[14:15] <Kilos> bet it said you dont have aptitude installed first hey
[14:15] <pieter2627> inetpro, yes and then created the virtualenv. the next command (~/virtualenv/bin/pip install --upgrade nikola) gave that output
[14:15] <inetpro> looks like a missing header file
[14:16] <inetpro> that would be python-dev
[14:16] <inetpro> I think
[14:17] <pieter2627> ok will try python-dev next (just tried libxslt-dev)
[14:18] <inetpro> pieter2627: thanks for the feedback
[14:21] <pieter2627> inetpro waiting for `...pip install --upgrade nikola` to finish, but am wondering whether python 2 or 3 should have been used by virtualenv
[14:24] <Kilos> 3
[14:24] <Kilos> 3+ i think it was
[14:24] <pieter2627> mine used 2?
[14:25]  * inetpro is running 2.7.6
[14:25] <Kilos> ya me too
[14:25] <magespawn> Kilos:  are you rescued?
[14:26] <Kilos> no magespawn  he has me hooked till death do us part i think
[14:26] <inetpro> magespawn: he has to do what he gets paid for :-)
[14:26] <Kilos> and im bleeding
[14:27] <pieter2627> success!!! think python-dev was the missing package
[14:27] <inetpro> magespawn: you are welcome to try and rescue him
[14:27] <Kilos> inetpro  you are the trello man not me
[14:27] <inetpro> pieter2627: thanks
[14:27]  * inetpro will add that
[14:28] <Kilos> i dread trello messages first thing in the morning already
[14:28] <inetpro> done
[14:29] <inetpro> Kilos: I would refrain from marking things as done if it's not merged into trunk
[14:29] <Kilos> inetpro  you know i had some probs as well when doing everything once in bzr stuff
[14:30] <Kilos> then i did those git clones before anything
[14:30] <Kilos> i think thats what i did
[14:31] <inetpro> think?
[14:32] <Kilos> ya that thing i battle with, was months ago remember
[14:32] <inetpro> thinking doesn't help to fix it
[14:32] <Kilos> well i dont keep notes on everything , you are the fixit man
[14:33] <Kilos> i can prove it on our mambers wiki page
[14:33] <Kilos> Mr. fixit
[14:33] <inetpro> ai!
[14:33] <Kilos> by me you see greeter bot
[14:33] <inetpro> pieter2627: are you subscribed on trello yet?
[14:33] <pieter2627> Isn't it safer to add aliases to `.bash_aliases` rather than `.bashrc` - if the former is set in .bashrc
[14:34] <inetpro> magespawn: why you so quiet now?
[14:34] <pieter2627> inetpro: no, not yet
[14:34] <inetpro> ok
[14:34] <Kilos> haha show him moppies command for the bash stuffs
[14:34] <magespawn> still waking up ffrom my afternoon nap
[14:34] <inetpro> pieter2627: be careful with the instructions... not all clear
[14:35] <inetpro> which step are you at now?
[14:35] <inetpro> not all those steps are needed, especially if you went the short route now
[14:36] <inetpro> or rather 'The Simple Method'
[14:36] <pieter2627> inetpro: creating the alias (but will add mine to .bash_aliases)
[14:36] <pieter2627> * the alias in `The Simple Method`
[14:37] <inetpro> ah
[14:37]  * inetpro trying to make sure
[14:38] <inetpro> we need to rewrite the whole thing and put it online somewhere else
[14:39] <inetpro> whether you use .bashrc or .bash_aliases doesn't matter very much... but having said that, aliases logically belong in the alias file
[14:41] <pieter2627> right, just mentioning :)
[14:44] <inetpro> .bashrc sources .bash_aliases
[14:50]  * inetpro move the build instructions to a separate card at https://trello.com/c/tvAtfR4k
[14:50] <inetpro> moved as well
[14:57] <Kilos> moppieeeeee
[14:58] <Kilos> Mopkop
[14:58] <Kilos> sleepig again
[14:58] <Kilos> sleeping too
[14:58] <inetpro> Kilos: he's not allowed her until 17:00
[14:58] <inetpro> here*
[14:58] <Kilos> oh my
[15:00] <Kilos> only one more minute
[15:00] <inetpro> 04/02 18:38:42 <Mopkop> Meer as dit. Die hele aand eintlik! Hulle sê mens moet ten minste 33% van jou dag gee vir werk en studies. Ek doen net studies to 5 uur, so die res van die tyd het ek vir kerk en Ubuntu :)
[15:01] <Kilos> aha
[15:01] <inetpro> Kilos: but maybe he meant 5 uur in the morning?
[15:01] <Kilos> well membered
[15:01] <Kilos> lol
[15:01] <Kilos> no he likes sleeping
[15:01] <inetpro> :-)
[15:02] <inetpro> pieter2627: you getting there?
[15:02] <Kilos> hes afk
[15:02] <Kilos> you frightened him with all the work
[15:03] <Kilos> we need to discuss stuffs with africa site
[15:04] <Kilos> that forums thing at the end of the za site can be copied as is not so?
[15:04] <Kilos> at the top right]
[15:04] <Kilos> but thats a frightening place to go to
[15:05] <Kilos> superfly  oh superfly  wherefore art thou superfly
[15:06] <inetpro> Kilos: the forum link is specific for .za
[15:07] <Kilos> you sure?
[15:07] <inetpro> Kilos: yes, it goes to http://za.ubuntuforums.org/
[15:07] <Kilos> no za there our forum is archived
[15:08] <inetpro> note the za in front
[15:08] <Kilos> ya
[15:08] <Kilos> but nothing za shows in there
[15:08] <Kilos> arent all those the other forums
[15:09] <inetpro> yes they are, I guess, but probably only until someone revives the localised forums for us again
[15:10] <Kilos> we have irc , so much better than a forum imo
[15:10] <Kilos> more personal
[15:11] <inetpro> we need a guy like drubin to drive those
[15:11] <inetpro> he was good at that, serves a different purpose and a different kind of user
[15:12] <Kilos> oh
[15:20] <Kilos> wb pieter2627
[15:21] <pieter2627> ty Kilos
[15:21] <Kilos> thats what greeter bots do
[15:22] <pieter2627> greeter bots?
[15:22] <Kilos> ya man the bot that says hello to newcomers and welcomes back the lost
[15:23] <Kilos> look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/
[15:23] <Kilos> you can join us too
[15:26] <inetpro> Kilos: you mean https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members ?
[15:26] <inetpro> pieter2627: ^^
[15:26] <Kilos> oh
[15:26] <Kilos> oh ya thats what i mean
[15:27] <Kilos> ty inetpro
[15:27] <Kilos> i often dont say what i mean but mean what i say
[15:31] <pieter2627> yea, Kilos' link is a bit confusing for an info page (btw the GLUG link seems to be broken). will check more into that later
[15:36] <Kilos> inetpro  me cries
[15:36] <Kilos> ithink th post office hassles have stolen my membership certificate
[15:38] <inetpro> did they post it Kilos?
[15:38] <Kilos> thats what the request form said
[15:38] <Kilos> wanted postal address
[15:56] <Squirm> Meh
[15:56] <Squirm> I'm an hour early
[16:00] <Symmetria> https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/11088980_10153302861140528_534843900691926524_o.jpg <[16:01] <Squirm> Symmetria: That's quite a chameleon
[16:01] <Symmetria> lol rescued it from my cat ;p
[16:01] <Squirm> lol
[16:02] <Squirm> Poor cat! You took away it's play thing!
[16:02] <Squirm> Animal cruelty :/
[16:02] <Symmetria> hahaha my cat actually growled at me at the time
[16:02]  * Squirm reports you to the KSPCA
[16:03] <Squirm> Symmetria: they do that. Have robbed my cat of many birds
[16:03] <Squirm> They don't seem to like having their posessions taken away
[16:03] <Symmetria> Squirm, I think I'll call it suse ;p
[16:03] <Squirm> Haha, brilliant
[16:04] <Symmetria> actually quite rare to find one of those in this area
[16:04] <Symmetria> they do occasionally show up but you dont see them often
[16:04] <Squirm> Quite rare to find one
[16:04] <Symmetria> (thats actually a really young one, a full adult grows *WAY* bigger)
[16:05] <Squirm> He seems quite the horny fellow
[16:05] <Symmetria> heh the jackson species (which that is) can get to like 30 centimeters long
[16:05] <Squirm> Haven't seen on like that
[16:05] <Symmetria> yeah you wont, they are only found in kenya and tanzania
[16:05] <Squirm> s/on/one
[16:05] <Symmetria> very occasionally in nairobi, but common in the mountains (mount kenya)
[16:05] <Squirm> Interesting
[16:06] <Symmetria> heh, a 30 cm version of that thing can be pretty intimidating
[16:20] <magespawn> might have slowed the cat down abit, if it was that big
[16:27] <pieter2627> inetpro: Just a confirmation about the missing file for future reference http://getnikola.com/handbook.html#python-h-not-found
[16:31]  * Squirm looks around
[16:31] <Squirm> cheers people. Flight time
[16:32] <Kilos> fly safe Squirm
[16:32] <Kilos> catch up on some sleep
[16:40] <Mopkop> Hello everone. Sorry, I was sleeping. What are you talking about?
[16:40] <Kilos> lol
[16:40] <Kilos> hi Mopkop
[16:41] <Kilos> http://bin.snyman.info/w5qp9\
[16:41] <Kilos> http://bin.snyman.info/w5qp9
[16:42] <Kilos> comments?
[16:42] <Mopkop> Kilos: Should that be changed on the website?
[16:43] <Kilos> what do you think of the addon
[16:43] <Kilos> you doing it so im suggesting only
[16:46] <inetpro> pieter2627: ty
[16:46] <Kilos> this looks easier to see
[16:46] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s20AwMi1Mc
[16:47] <Mopkop> Sentences should not start with 'And', but we can make it part of the previous sentance :)
[16:47] <Kilos> thats why you are doing it
[16:47] <Kilos> maybe different wording
[16:48] <Kilos> i type as i think
[16:48] <Mopkop> Kilos: No it's good wording, I'll just change the structure.
[16:49] <Kilos> Mopkop  do you know the whole aim of the project
[16:49] <Kilos> have you looked at #ubuntu-africa
[16:50] <Mopkop> Kilos: To my shame, no. I only imagined it is meant to group African Loco's together.
[16:50] <Kilos> read the links in the topic bar at #ubuntu-africa
[16:51] <inetpro> Kilos, Mopkop: I thought our text on etherpad answers all that
[16:51] <inetpro> https://etherpad.net/p/Ubuntu_Africa
[16:51] <Mopkop> I forgot about that :(
[16:51] <Kilos> lol
[16:52] <Kilos> Mopkop  its a project to revive and unite all africa locos in one place because they were all dying
[16:52] <Mopkop> Oh, wait, that was on Trello too...
[16:52] <Kilos> ya
[16:52] <inetpro> uhuh
[16:53] <Mopkop> Hmmm, I really should have learned that before starting with the project.
[16:53] <inetpro> :-)
[16:53] <Mopkop> Should I do everything over now?
[16:53] <Kilos> nono the site looks good imo
[16:55] <inetpro> just append and amend
[16:57] <Mopkop> Ok, maybe I should add an "About"  page?
[17:02] <Mopkop> No wait, I should put that info on the front page. I was just lazy last night....
[17:06] <inetpro> Mopkop: Get Ubuntu should simply link to http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[17:07] <Mopkop> Aai...
[17:07] <Mopkop> And I did all that work to find out what each flavour does.
[17:08] <Mopkop> But you're right, let's keep it simple.
[17:09] <Kilos> hi captine
[17:09] <Mopkop> Hello captine!
[17:09] <captine> evening Kilos, Mopkop
[17:09] <captine> all
[17:10] <Kilos> Mopkop  rope him in with you
[17:13] <Kilos> inetpro  would you know what kind of maintenance the site could need after it goes online
[17:14] <inetpro> Kilos: uh, what you mean with that?
[17:15] <Kilos> i mean there is nothing that breaks or can be hacked and messed up is there?
[17:16] <inetpro> why you worry about that?
[17:16] <Kilos> not like the flys openlp that needs work all the trime
[17:16] <Kilos> man im asking
[17:16] <inetpro> that's why he chose nikola
[17:17] <inetpro> makes life easier
[17:17] <Kilos> ok
[17:18] <Kilos> so i can get old without you nagging
[17:18] <inetpro> no
[17:18] <Kilos> ai!
[17:18] <Kilos> no more after this one
[17:19] <inetpro> it's your site
[17:19] <Kilos> ya man but if it dont break it will just be there working
[17:20] <inetpro> define working
[17:20] <Kilos> letting peeps see what is there
[17:20] <inetpro> obviously
[17:20] <inetpro> until you decide it's not good enough
[17:20] <Kilos> ai! we in that mood again
[17:21] <Kilos> non it will always be good
[17:22] <Kilos> you must see that it has everything it needs now
[17:22] <Kilos> yes you obviously
[17:22] <captine> I cannot believe Gangnam Style is still in the top pop music on youtube...
[17:23] <inetpro> the word working is as broad as the sky, can mean anything
[17:23] <Kilos> wb magespawn
[17:24] <inetpro> *wide as the skies
[17:24] <Kilos> well mr fixit what word would you use for a site that has no errors and does what it is designed for
[17:25]  * inetpro has not found such a place
[17:25] <Kilos> online and fully operational
[17:26] <inetpro> you can't keep everyone happy all the time
[17:26] <Kilos> i dont worry about everybody
[17:26] <Kilos> only us
[17:27] <inetpro> at least we try to keep some of them happy some of the time :-)
[17:27] <Kilos> oh and some poor korean battling to get a loco going
[17:27] <captine> for me, the best part of the site is the bazaar tutorial.  definitely would never have gotton to learn bazaar without it... although, still lots to learn -- and i need to refer to it every time as I dont use it often enough to make it into my memory... :)
[17:27] <Kilos> got him and cantide linked at last
[17:28] <Kilos> captine  you want to jump in and help Mopkop  ?
[17:28] <captine> help with?  sorry, missed something
[17:28] <captine> whats needed.  will help if i can
[17:28] <Kilos> with my /our africa site
[17:29] <Kilos> inetpro  links please
[17:29] <Kilos> captine  /j #ubuntu-africa and read links in topic bar to get the idea
[17:32] <Kilos> captine  https://code.launchpad.net/~prysdieheer/ubuntu-africa/starting-pages
[17:36] <captine> darn.  my launchpad key is on a different computer... mmmm
[17:38] <Kilos> new one needed
[17:42] <inetpro> captine: https://launchpad.net/~bradputzier/+editsshkeys
[17:42] <Kilos> inetpro  why didnt you tell me that. you made me do it a second time
[17:43] <Kilos> grrr
[17:43] <inetpro> uh
[17:43] <inetpro> Kilos: we've been through that
[17:43] <Kilos> oh we have
[17:51] <Kilos> hmm... i think you said i needed the practise
[17:51] <Kilos> obviously i suppose
[17:54] <captine> inetpro, so the key is linked to the computer?
[17:55] <inetpro> captine: yes
[17:55] <Kilos> i think so thats why at times you must type more
[17:57] <inetpro> captine: more info at https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/CreatingAnSSHKeyPair
[18:03] <Mopkop> Sorry guys got to go, See you tomorrow DV :)
[18:03] <Mopkop> quit Have company
[18:03] <Kilos> ok Mopkop  dankie
[18:04] <inetpro> ai!
[18:04] <Kilos> he should have proposed or something first inetpro  ?
[18:05] <Kilos> patience
[18:05] <inetpro> Kilos: you mean if he changed anything :-)
[18:05] <Kilos> has he proposed what he has done so far?
[18:06] <inetpro> Tree is up to date at revision 3
[18:06] <inetpro> thus, no changes
[18:06] <Kilos> so can we all continue from there or what
[18:06] <Kilos> now we roped captine  and pieter2627  in too
[18:07] <Kilos> ai!
[18:07] <inetpro> you can make a branch based on his work
[18:08] <captine> brb.  dinner time
[18:08] <Kilos> enjoy
[18:09] <inetpro> captine: enjoy your meal
[18:15] <inetpro> wb Neo31
[18:15] <inetpro> Kilos: you asleep?
[18:15] <Kilos> no im watching you
[18:16] <Kilos> hehe
[18:16] <Kilos> you doing a good job
[18:16] <Kilos> Neo31  meet my mentor
[18:18] <Kilos> ai! these tunisians take their time
[18:20] <Neo31> thx inetpro
[18:20] <Neo31> haha Kilos
[18:20] <Neo31> yep I know inetpro :p
[18:31] <inetpro> wb magespawn
[18:31] <Kilos> 8ta rocks
[18:33] <inetpro> superfly: how do I get rid of the jumbotron on sub-pages when creating any new page?
[18:34] <superfly> inetpro: it's a bug I need to fix
[18:34] <inetpro> ah
[18:34] <pieter2627> So future work should be based on the `starting-pages` branch?
[18:35] <inetpro> pieter2627: there's not much there, so you're welcome to start afresh
[18:35] <inetpro> oh and I don't mean to say Mopkop hasn't done much
[18:36] <inetpro> just be open minded and let's look at what you come up with
[18:36] <pieter2627> It has better page links for me to try something
[18:38] <inetpro> pieter2627: you can also look at the ubuntu-za project at https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za-dev/ubuntu-za/website
[18:40] <Kilos> evening superfly  we got a whole squad working now
[18:41] <superfly> Kilos: so I can retire now?
[18:41] <Kilos> nono sir you gotta check them out still
[18:41] <pieter2627> Will do. does it also use nikola?
[18:41] <inetpro> hmm... the word 'working' again?
[18:41] <Kilos> yes
[18:41] <inetpro> pieter2627: yes
[18:41] <Kilos> sigh
[18:42] <Kilos> Maaz  define working
[18:42] <Maaz> Kilos: Work \Work\ (w[^u]rk), v. i. [imp. & p. p. {Worked} (w[^u]rkt), or {Wrought} (r[add]t); p. pr. & vb. n. {Working}.] [AS. wyrcean (imp. worthe, wrohte, p. p. geworht, gewroht); akin to OFries. werka, wirka, OS. wirkian, D. werken, G. wirken, Icel. verka, yrkja, orka, Goth. wa['u]rkjan. [root]145. See {Work}, n.] [1913 Webster] 1. To exert one's self for a
[18:42] <Maaz> purpose; to put forth effort for the attainment of an object; to labor; to be engaged in the…
[18:42] <Kilos> ai!
[18:43] <Kilos> superfly  you in the same boat as i am
[18:44] <Kilos> hooked here for life
[18:54] <Kilos> sjoe magespawn  wb again
[18:54] <Kilos> get 8ta man
[18:59] <inetpro> pieter2627: have you figured it out yet?
[19:00]  * inetpro gives up trying to understand the theming
[19:00] <Kilos> lol
[19:03] <pieter2627> Yea seems so, do you guys care about pretty urls?
[19:03] <Kilos> whats that?
[19:05] <Kilos> inetpro  ^
[19:06] <pieter2627> Kilos: the links don't end with their extensions - generally used in dynamic sites to hide the page indentifier and make the url SEO friendly. Saw how to enable it while going thru the docs
[19:07] <Kilos> superfly  ^
[19:07] <pieter2627> So http://ubuntu-africa.info/join-us.html will be http://ubuntu-africa.info/join-us/
[19:07] <inetpro> pieter2627: we don't plan to have many pages
[19:07] <Kilos> the fly is the judge
[19:07] <superfly> please, for the love of doughnuts, drop the trailing slash!
[19:08] <inetpro> :-)
[19:08] <inetpro> superfly: why?
[19:09] <pieter2627> inetpro: looking in ~/virtualenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/nikola/data/themes/base/ might help with the theming/templating
[19:10] <pieter2627> superfly: wish i could, but nikola needs it to identify the active page
[19:11] <superfly> pieter2627: I've worked with sites for 15 years, you don't need the trailing slash, and there are plenty of ways to skin a cat
[19:14]  * inetpro is perfectly fine with page.html on a small site like this
[19:15] <inetpro> or even this-web-page.html
[19:16] <pieter2627> superfly: yea, with a normal rewrite rule its easy, but i don't know nikola quite enough to see why it adds it
[19:43] <inetpro> pieter2627: what is your LP account?
[19:48] <Kilos> oi you chased him
[19:57] <inetpro> really?
[20:02] <Kilos> lol
[20:17] <magespawn> i am off, good night all
[20:17] <inetpro> good night magespawn
[20:54] <inetpro> everyone sleeping already?
[20:54] <Kilos> looks like
[20:54] <Kilos> night all, sleep tight
[20:54] <inetpro> even superfly?
[20:55] <Kilos> oh the fly still going
[20:55] <Kilos> he is gonna sleep in the grave
[20:55] <Kilos> nou time now
[20:55] <Kilos> no
[20:55] <inetpro> good night oom Kilos
[20:55] <Kilos> night goosie
[21:04] <superfly> inetpro: nope, busy with other stuff
[21:05] <inetpro> superfly: np :-)
[21:05] <inetpro> wb Private_User


[08:18] <tsdgeos> Saviq: are the CI xenial builds failing because libgeonames stuck in proposed or something?
[08:18] <tsdgeos> does this call for a xenial-overlay?
[08:20] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: Saviq: filters landed?
[08:20] <tsdgeos> ah right they were part of the silo
[08:20] <tsdgeos> somehow i forgot :D
[08:20] <tsdgeos> \o/
[08:25] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yeah, -ish
[08:25] <Saviq> they're actually stuck in oblivion atm, trying to find out where
[08:26] <tsdgeos> :D
[08:26] <tsdgeos> yeah can't build now in local machine either
[08:26] <tsdgeos> since geonames is missing
[08:34] <Saviq> tsdgeos, FWIW you can recover the packages from https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-013/+packages?field.status_filter=
[09:01] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, fyi i'm going to abandon silo 54 (the old filters silo)
[09:02] <Saviq> \o/
[09:21] <tsdgeos> Saviq: can you make sure to include https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/gsettings-qt/use_qchar_upper_lower/+merge/289620 in the next silo?
[09:21] <Saviq> tsdgeos, ack
[09:35] <tsdgeos> Saviq: when you find some time could you try to reproduce the problem you had with https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/desktopRotatedCamera/+merge/288772 ? maybe even with make tryOrientedShell?
[09:36] <Saviq> tsdgeos, ack
[09:41] <Saviq> greyback, hey, you using one of the gles-sync branches?
[09:41] <greyback> Saviq: gles-sync1
[09:42] <Saviq> ack
[09:42]  * Saviq looking forward to robru's solution for this
[09:42] <greyback> ditto
[09:44] <Saviq> greyback, about that, I was planning to use diff (maybe quilt to ease it up) instead of two copies of the file, wdyt?
[09:44] <Saviq> could in theory prevent us forgetting to update
[09:44] <Saviq> since the patch will fail
[09:45] <greyback> not a bad idea
[09:45] <Saviq> Unable to obtain lock  held by<EMAIL_ADDRESS>on taotie (process #21821), acquired 11 hours, 6 minutes ago.
[09:45] <Saviq> greyback, can I break ↑?
[09:45] <greyback> yep
[09:47]  * Saviq watching jenkins burn
[09:49]  * Saviq just realized that train itself is responsible for bogus tags
[09:50] <Saviq> at least on the ~ci-train-bot branch
[09:52] <tsdgeos> yep
[09:53] <tsdgeos> we discussed about this already :D
[09:53] <tsdgeos> the force pushes don't clean the tags in there or something
[09:53] <tsdgeos> you said
[09:53] <Saviq> yeah
[09:53] <Saviq> it shouldn't matter for trunk, though
[09:53] <Saviq> anyway /me wants git
[10:13] <pstolowski> cimi, hey, we will need to bump versions and rebuild silo 71 (the other big unity8 silo landed)
[10:19] <pstolowski> cimi, bumping unity-api to 7.109, interface ver 12; unity-scopes-impl-12; can you bump dependencies in your branch accordingly?
[10:53] <Saviq> pstolowski, cimi's away until Thu next week, but you won't be able to land features any more for ota10 anyway
[10:53] <Saviq> tsdgeos, looks like lp:~aacid/unity8/optimize_LVWPH_layout conflicts with lp:~aacid/unity8/sectionDelegateResizes
[10:54] <pstolowski> Saviq, sure I know. i just need to work on this silo
[10:54] <Saviq> ack
[10:54] <tsdgeos> Saviq: probably, awnt me to stack them ?
[10:54] <Saviq> tsdgeos, please do
[10:54] <Saviq> pstolowski, do you need me to resubmit as unity-team to bump or can you work without that for now?
[10:54] <Saviq> it's >= after all :0
[10:57] <pstolowski> Saviq, yeah, but i'd expect it to fail during build (new role added to the model). no worries, i'll do this or prepare another MP
[10:58] <tsdgeos> Saviq: done
[11:13] <Saviq> tsdgeos, tx
[12:52] <mterry> Saviq: u8 being stuck in xenial queues is annoying -- I can neither install packages on my laptop from the archive nor from the silo ppa anymore
[12:53] <Saviq> mterry, yeah, we kind of jumped the gun on merging
[12:53] <Saviq> mterry, sil is resolving this
[12:53] <Saviq> mterry, basically ken force-merged before the packages got copied to proposed (in UNAPPROVED queue), and they were deleted from the silo
[12:54] <Saviq> mterry, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1179 has (most of) the recovered packages
[12:54] <mterry> Saviq: well I liked merging so that my branches can be nicely rebased...  Tough spot
[12:54] <mterry> Saviq: I can just do some quick development on my phone too
[12:54] <Saviq> mterry, you should be able to recover the ones missing still (geonames, indicator-{datetime,session})
[12:54] <Saviq> and we can publish then
[12:54] <Saviq> sil got busy with turbo
[12:58] <dandrader> code landed! \o/
[13:02] <Saviq> yeah, slightly prematurely though ;)
[13:02] <Saviq> @unity missing packages that are not in silo 13 (any more) and not yet in xenial are in https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1179 (silo 57) fornow
[13:04] <dandrader> Saviq, there are not MPs associated with that silo?
[13:04] <dandrader> Saviq, where those diff come from?
[13:04] <Saviq> dandrader, they're copies from silo 13
[13:04] <Saviq> dandrader, so the stuff that landed last night
[13:04] <Saviq> because we messed up publishing a bit
[13:07] <dandrader> Saviq, so if I flash my device right now will it get to a broken state?
[13:09] <Saviq> @unity: clarification: this is only a problem on xenial
[13:10] <mterry> Saviq: I do wonder about the queue bits -- if I dput something from my laptop, it can get stuck in the UNAPPROVED queue.  And it must be held somewhere in LP.  I guess for PPAs it takes a shortcut to save space, assuming the PPA will be around
[13:10] <Saviq> mterry, yeah, I suppose that's the difference between dput and a copy
[13:11] <mterry> dandrader: this is a problem only on xenial.  overlay should be fine
[13:30] <mterry> Saviq: so.  Can I start a last-minute-fixes silo?
[13:31] <Saviq> mterry, I've started https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1180 already
[13:32] <mterry> Saviq: oh wow, that's already a lot of branches.  Nice  :)
[13:32] <Saviq> mterry, depending on how things go we'll land that or a subset
[13:32] <mterry> tsdgeos: I fixed the failing test in set-real-name.    I'm sure those strings came from Design.  But it bugs me that we say "Show less" instead of "Show fewer"  :P
[13:49] <tsdgeos> mterry: ^_^
[13:50] <Saviq> mterry, well now, "show less content", not "show fewer items"
[13:50] <Saviq> fine by me :P
[13:51] <mterry> Saviq: :)  But the scopes always show discrete items
[13:56] <greyback__> Saviq: building unity8 in vivid+overlay chroot working for you? I'm getting this dependency problem: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15487310/
[13:57] <greyback__> E: Package 'account-plugin-tools:armhf' has no installation candidate
[13:57] <Saviq> greyback__, hmm jenkins is happy
[13:57] <Saviq> lemme update my chroots
[13:58] <greyback__> since building works everywhere else, odds are something borked in my chroot
[13:59] <tsdgeos> mterry: have a sec?
[14:00] <mterry> tsdgeos: yeah
[14:01] <tsdgeos> mterry: the Shell::test_superTabToCycleLauncher is unstable, i have been tracking it down and it is because there is a race between the greeter calling "d.login();" in onAuthenticationComplete and the test wanting to show the launcher and since d.login emits sessionStarted that calls launcher.hide() in the shell sometimes it passes and sometimes it does not
[14:02] <tsdgeos> mterry: i've been trying to find a way to wait until the greeter has passed onAuthenticationComplete so the test can start showing the launcher, but can't find a way
[14:02] <tsdgeos> a any idea?
[14:02] <mterry> tsdgeos: could listen for sessionStarted signal?
[14:03] <mterry> tsdgeos: could wait for greeter.locked to be false?
[14:03] <tsdgeos> sessionstarted makes sense i guess
[14:03] <tsdgeos> let me try that
[14:13] <tsdgeos> mterry: not really great but stabilizes the test ... https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/stabilizeSuperTabToCycleLauncher/+merge/290042
[14:14] <mterry> tsdgeos: yeah.  twice because sessionStarted fires when it doesn't need to.  josharenson's split greeter branches fix that up a bit I think.  Might be more future proof to just verify > 1
[14:14] <mterry> Although that might not fix the race
[14:15] <tsdgeos> mterry: i guess it's fine to leave the 2 there, it's a faitly obvious comment that if reworking the greeter or something breaks this check
[14:15] <mterry> I guess we can just fix the "2" check in josharenson's branch
[14:15] <mterry> yeah
[14:15] <tsdgeos> it can be changed to 1 or 3 or whartever
[14:16] <josharenson> tsdgeos: let me know when that branch lands, and ill remove the "2" in mine
[14:17] <tsdgeos> sure
[14:19] <dandrader> Saviq, should I add the unity-api version bumps and dendencies update in qtmir & unity8 for the surface WM branches or do you wanna do that separately?
[14:20] <dandrader> Saviq, like in that last landing I was involved with
[14:20] <Saviq> dandrader, please add, we only manage the changelog bump separately
[14:20] <dandrader> Saviq, ok
[14:20] <Saviq> dandrader, so only unity-api has the separate MP for changelog/version bump
[14:21] <Saviq> since multiple MPs can change the same thing and that's not a conflict
[14:24] <Saviq> greyback__, owait, that's cross-building is it?
[14:24] <Saviq> greyback__, yeah, they broke it
[14:30] <Saviq> greyback__, I blame https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay/+sourcepub/6207532/+listing-archive-extra
[14:33] <greyback__> Saviq: yeah. Ok, just wanted to know if local issue or not.. Thanks!
[14:35]  * Saviq really wants to cross-build in CI asap
[14:36] <greyback__> +1
[14:45] <Saviq> greyback__, shall we abandon https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/953 ?
[14:48] <greyback__> Saviq: yeah. I've pressed the button already
[15:01] <tsdgeos> Saviq: can we get https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/enableDisabledOrientedShellTest/+merge/289336 in the silo too?
[15:02] <tsdgeos> mzanetti cmmented the test at some point because it was failing only on CI
[15:20] <greyback__> Saviq: want to suggest your "diff" idea here: https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/qtmir/inline-gles/+merge/288732
[15:21] <Saviq> greyback__, yeah I did, I'll likely just propose an idea on top
[15:21] <greyback__> Saviq: ok. I'll approve that MP then
[15:23] <Saviq> @unity if we get a chance for a quick-fix silo before ota10, what do you say we need there? (mterry your two that I know)
[15:26] <Saviq> greyback__, Bug #1561028 FWIW
[15:29] <greyback__> Saviq: thanks