[05:49] <nelo> flash no audio. anyone help? i tried changin the "aoss" in firefoxrc and still does not work..
[05:49] <MonkeyMagic> what do you mean by that?
[05:49] <Secion8> Anyone want
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> that is a weird one to troubleshoot for sure
[05:50] <yellowdart> MonkeyMagic, are you running a server on your machine?  ...or are you just trying to browse?
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> sound with mp3 files?
[05:50] <devilsadvocate> MonkeyMagic, the problem is likely with your isp.. nothing special is need ed on ubuntu afaik. can you open gmail or any other google servifce?
[05:50] <MonkeyMagic> no i only installed it a couple of days ago
[05:50] <nelo> yeah, sound with mp3 works
[05:50] <MonkeyMagic> devilsadvocate:no i can't open gmail (or hotmail or anything protected)
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> ah, then look into about:plugins (command run from firefox address bar)
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> search for sound
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> or flash
[05:51] <TuTUx> i have installed the mplayer/totem plugins (and codec) but firefox doesn't play avi files on my edgy, any help?
[05:51] <Lurker> wait
[05:51] <Lurker> is there a command to tell terminal not to exit?
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> TuTUx, i always... always use Mplayer-plugin
[05:51] <Lurker> i think its running the command then closing terminal down
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> for those... even in Feisty
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> Lurker, you on edgy?
[05:52] <Lurker> yes
[05:52] <yellowdart> MonkeyMagic, that sounds like a browser specific problem, not ubuntu.. i'm not sure I know what your problem is.. sorry
[05:52] <MonkeyMagic> about the https: I know it is not my isp as i have anyother computer which works well
[05:52] <cchance> What would be a command for sharing ppp0? On my network? Ive got the initial network setup i just got to make pp0 accessibal to the clients
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> ah, ok ... Lurker let me try something
[05:53] <nelo> nomasteryoda it shows Shockwave Flash 9.0 r31
[05:53] <Lurker> ok
[05:53] <holycow> TuTUx, try w32codecs and if you are using gstreamer install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll so gstreamer uses the codecs
[05:53] <MonkeyMagic> ive tried firefox and links but neither work
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:53] <nelo> i am removing flash altogether and see what happens
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> that is ok nelo...
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> nelo, i have seen issues with plugins not symlinked correctly...
[05:53] <TuTUx> holycow, ok thanks i will try that
[05:53] <yellowdart> MonkeyMagic, have you tried any other browsers?
[05:53] <MonkeyMagic> yep: a text only links one
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> on other distros ... and flash has been at fault before
[05:54] <MonkeyMagic> "ELinks"
[05:54] <mneptok> MonkeyMagic: w3m is installed by default
[05:54] <coffee-mug> night everyone
[05:55] <yellowdart> MonkeyMagic, how about galeon? (apt-get install galeon)
[05:55] <MonkeyMagic> ill try that
[05:55] <yellowdart> MonkeyMagic, it's based on mozilla as well
[05:55] <fotoflo> hey all
[05:55] <cchance> What would be a command for sharing ppp0? On my network? Ive got the initial network setup i just got to make pp0 accessibal to the clients
[05:55] <fotoflo> does ubuntu have anything like YaST? to configure apache and samba and bind and an MTA?
[05:56] <cafuego_> cchance: 2 things.
[05:56] <kitche> yellow: actually galeon is based on gecko not mozilla
[05:56] <yellow> ? kitche
[05:56] <cafuego_> cchance: 1) Tell the ekrnel to enable forwarding. 'sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip-forward=1'
[05:56] <RyanTMulligan> Is anyone having problems with pdflatex?
[05:56] <kitche> yellow: that was for yellowdart lol tab completion
[05:56] <xelados> kitche: Mozilla (and Firefox) use the Gecko engine, so it's basically the same thing.
[05:56] <mneptok> Galeon? people still use that?
[05:56] <yellow> =)
[05:56] <xelados> Minus extensions, most likely.
[05:56] <Ayanami> kitche: Any idea about my little sound issue?
[05:56] <RyanTMulligan> I keep receiving "[PDFLaTeX]  finished with exit status 255"
[05:56] <kbrosnan> yellow: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecko_%28layout_engine%29
[05:56] <cafuego_> cchance: 2) A firewall rule to mask LAN traffic. 'sudo iptables -t nat -a POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE'
[05:57] <cchance> cafuego, error: "net.ipv4.ip-forward" is an unknown key
[05:57] <cafuego_> cchance: ip_forward, sorry
[05:57] <yellow> argghhh, i think i'm going to register all *yellow* nicks
[05:57] <yellow> lol
[05:57] <cchance> cafuego, net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1
[05:58] <cchance> cafuego, iptables v1.3.3: Unknown arg `-a'
[05:58] <cchance> Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information.
[05:58] <FragUPlenty> hopin I could get help on enabling universal
[05:58] <FragUPlenty> dont know what it is
[05:58] <yellowdart> kitche, you're right.. maybe i've had one too many drinks ...or one too few ;)
[05:59] <FragUPlenty> and I need to know how to enable it
[05:59] <nomasteryoda> Lurker, does the command work fine in normal terminal?
[05:59] <Lurker> yes
[05:59] <Ayanami> !universal | FragUPlenty
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about universal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <yellowdart> yellow, stay away from my yellowdart.. ;)
[05:59] <Ayanami> Of course you don't, little bot. That would make sense if you did.
[05:59] <cchance> !easysource |yellowdart
[05:59] <ubotu> yellowdart: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:00] <IcemanV9> !repo | FragUPlenty
[06:00] <ubotu> FragUPlenty: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:00] <Flannel> !universe | Ayanami
[06:00] <ubotu> Ayanami: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:00] <yellow> yellowdart, i'm going to register all *yellow*, then i'm gonna ghost any ass that starts with yellow
[06:00] <yellow> hehe
[06:00] <yellowdart> yellow, hehe
[06:01] <yellow> :P
[06:01] <yellowdart> yellow, i'm already registered.. so, anything BUT yellowdart.. alright
[06:01] <cchance> cafuego_ iptables v1.3.3: Unknown arg `-a'
[06:01] <cchance> Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information.
[06:01] <cafuego_> cchance: -A, sorry
[06:01] <nomasteryoda> Lurker, here's the deal
[06:01] <cchance> I think it works time to test
[06:02] <yellowdart> yellow, you've already got #1 billing on "yellow" tab-complete
[06:02] <Lurker> eh?
[06:02] <mhiku> how to test the speed of the processor?
[06:03] <yellow> :)
[06:03] <nomasteryoda> gnome-terminal cd '/home/thule' && wine '/home/.wine/drive_c/thule.exe' should work
[06:03] <bulmer> ..downloading ubuntu iso and burning it to a cd is so frustrating, there seems to be error lurking just around the corner always..
[06:03] <nomasteryoda> Lurker, just make sure you put in the whole path to the exe
[06:03] <FragUPlenty> ok now that universe is enabled how do I get the openal library
[06:03] <nomasteryoda> in single quotes
[06:03] <yellowdart> MonkeyMagic, any luck?
[06:03] <nomasteryoda> i just started Putty that way
[06:03] <Lurker> ok lemme try that
[06:04] <adammck> hello again. i have an ubuntu server which is acting very strangely. i've dumped the output of some commands here [ http://rafb.net/p/15EbEC94.txt ]  if anyone could be kind enough to take a look. the problem is kind of self-explanitory...
[06:04] <MonkeyMagic> yellowdart: its finished downloadining and now installing
[06:04] <MonkeyMagic> i have slow internet :(
[06:04] <Steil> Hello, was just wondering if anyone is using ubuntu on a blade 100 or 150 system?
[06:04] <IcemanV9> bulmer: even @ 2x??
[06:04] <adammck> i have lots of daemons running, that don't exist in the filesystem. even after reboot :|
[06:04] <mhiku> how to know the processor speed? its not displayed
[06:04] <bulmer> IcemanV9: no just 4x so far..that may be the only resolution i may have
[06:05] <Steil> i can't get output for X higher than 640x480, though it'll go up to 1024x768 on my pc
[06:05] <bulmer> adammck: how did you find that out?
[06:05] <IcemanV9> bulmer: if that is your lowest speed, then you should be alright .. however, did u md5sum the image??
[06:06] <bulmer> IcemanV9: yes i have md5sum just the iso, there are several md5sum on subdirs too, which i have not done
[06:06] <adammck> bulmer: i ssh'd in, and ran 'ps'. things like courier, qmail, and clam are in the list - but they're not installed!
[06:06] <MonkeyMagic> galeon didn't work either
[06:06] <Flannel> adammck: not installed?  you sure?
[06:06] <yellow> adammck, that's freaky
[06:06] <yellow> lol
[06:06] <MonkeyMagic> I think my https problem is through the whole computer
[06:07] <jdhoreotg> when i update my GRUB menu.lst, do i have to somehow resync Grub or something or am i done?
[06:07] <yellowdart> MonkeyMagic, what is the error you get??
[06:07] <MonkeyMagic> The server may be busy or you may have a network connection problem. Try again later.
[06:07] <adammck> seriously, i have no idea what's going on. i run two other ubuntu servers which are just dandy.  but this thing is crazy
[06:07] <Lurker> nomasteryoda, will i need to change the second part of that for my system the home/.wine/c_drive/thule.exe part
[06:07] <nomasteryoda> ya
[06:07] <adammck> none of these programs exist, but they're all running, complete with open ports which i can connect to with telnet
[06:07] <nomasteryoda> to what you have
[06:07] <MonkeyMagic> its very strange :-/
[06:07] <Lurker> how do i know what to change it to
[06:08] <Flannel> adammck: `dpkg -l | grep courier` doesn't return anything?
[06:08] <Lurker> or is that for the direct path to my exe?
[06:08] <nomasteryoda> Lurker, cd to ~/.wine
[06:08] <nomasteryoda> look for your files
[06:08] <FragUPlenty> does anyone know how to get openal lib
[06:08] <FragUPlenty> I need it to play Quake 3
[06:08] <bulmer> adammck: are you sure you're ssh'ed in the correct box?
[06:08] <adammck> Flannel: no, nothing
[06:08] <nomasteryoda> kinda like in windows... it must be in the path or you link directly to it
[06:08] <Lurker> k one sec
[06:09] <Flannel> adammck: and, usr/sbin/ doesn't have any courier files in it?  (might be unreadable by normal users)
[06:09] <yellowdart> MonkeyMagic, i dont know what is happening then..gmail is working here.. so unless you have some sort of firewall or proxy blocking you i dont know
[06:09] <adammck> bulmer: sure as i can be :)
[06:09] <LinuxNIT> how do i change the login splash screen?
[06:09] <LinuxNIT> (gnome)
[06:09] <adammck> Flannel: i'm logged in as root
[06:09] <Flannel> FragUPlenty: You install it.  Whichever one you might need.
[06:09] <mhiku> ive installed lame using make and make install, how to make it update in the environment? like i can see its installed in the whereis command?
[06:09] <MonkeyMagic> yellowdart: could the problem be hardware based?
[06:10] <FragUPlenty> ok like how
[06:10] <FragUPlenty> though
[06:10] <FragUPlenty> sorry Im new to ubuntu
[06:10] <yellowdart> MonkeyMagic, i doubt it..never heard of a hardware problem like that
[06:10] <FragUPlenty> like what do I type into the console
[06:10] <bulmer> adammck: you have verified that these processes are there? how?
[06:10] <Flannel> FragUPlenty: normal installation methods?  Oh.  Ok.  Open up Synaptic Package Manager (System... uh, administration > SPM) search, then install
[06:11] <FragUPlenty> k thanks
[06:11] <MonkeyMagic> in windows there is a command called ipconfig /renew that rebuilds the network connection. Is there something similar in ubuntu?
[06:11] <yellowdart> MonkeyMagic, are you on a different network than your other computers (such as you're on wifi and the others are on lan)
[06:11] <adammck> bulmer: i see them in the 'ps aux' list, and i can connect to them using telnet. they're really there
[06:11] <MonkeyMagic> no both computers go through the same router
[06:11] <jason__> can anyone help me troubleshoot a sound card issue?  im getting no sound with dvd or mp3 playback
[06:12] <yellowdart> MonkeyMagic, yeah.. sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:12] <bulmer> adammck you have their pid's right? verify them if they do exist under /proc
[06:12] <FragUPlenty> thank you soooo much
[06:12] <devilsadvocate> MonkeyMagic, "ifdown eth0" and "ifup eth0"
[06:12] <Lurker> grr i can't figure out what to make the second part
[06:12] <devilsadvocate> and yeah, networking restart will do too
[06:12] <MonkeyMagic> ok ill give those a go
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> Lurker, if you open your Places, homefolder
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> then Ctrl+H to unhide
[06:13] <Lurker> k
[06:13] <adammck> bulmer: yeah, they exist in /proc
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> find the .wine folder
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> cd to Program Files/.. your file
[06:13] <jason__> can anybody point me in the direction to troubleshoot no sounds on my system?
[06:14] <Lurker> oooooh
[06:14] <Lurker> ok thanks
[06:14] <LinX> Hey guys if this channel is to crowded for you and you need some help come to $ubuntu-basic  for some  basic newbie help
[06:14] <zoexii> hello, I am having a terrible problem, every time I log in, I am forced to change my password, it says: you are required to change your password immediately (root enforced)   If it keeps doing this, I am totally going to forget my password.  How can I make it stop?
[06:14] <Lurker> i didn't know about the unhide =/
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> =D
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> np
[06:14] <LinX> Hey guys if this channel is to crowded for you and you need some help come to $ubuntu-basic  for some  basic newbie help
[06:15] <mneptok> LinX: please do not advertise other channels
[06:15] <MonkeyMagic> Resetting the network didn't help
[06:15] <LinX> sorry im only helping ppl
[06:16] <nomasteryoda> MonkeyMagic, did you look at .. route -n ?
[06:16] <nomasteryoda> wait, thats not  your problem is it
[06:16] <yellowdart> MonkeyMagic, and every other website (non-https) works?
[06:16] <MonkeyMagic> i got heaps of numbers
[06:17] <nomasteryoda> MonkeyMagic, did you look at your about:config in firefox?
[06:17] <MonkeyMagic> yellowdart: yes
[06:17] <mneptok> zoexii: run "passwd" from a termdnal and see if that stops it
[06:17] <mneptok> *terminal
[06:17] <bulmer> MonkeyMagic: whats the problem again?
[06:17] <Lurker> nomasteryoda, how do u do spaces in terminal?
[06:17] <Lurker> if its program files what do i type in
[06:17] <MonkeyMagic> bulmer: i cannot open https pages
[06:17] <nomasteryoda> 'file name'
[06:17] <nomasteryoda> quotes
[06:17] <Lurker> oooh
[06:17] <Lurker> lol k
[06:17] <nomasteryoda> or '\ '
[06:17] <mneptok> LinX: no need to apologize. just stopping the advertising is apology enough.
[06:17] <nomasteryoda> escape them with the \
[06:17] <kbrosnan> MonkeyMagic: it is a little rough but try http://kb.mozillazine.org/SSL_is_disabled
[06:18] <lunasea13> how do I join ubuntu basic?
[06:18] <zoexii> mneptok, cool, will try
[06:18] <MonkeyMagic> yellowdart: i did about:config, where should i go from there?
[06:18] <nomasteryoda> MonkeyMagic, looking for ssl
[06:18] <nomasteryoda> see if its disabled and change to enabled
[06:18] <MonkeyMagic> nomasteryoda ok
[06:19] <nomasteryoda> worth a try MonkeyMagic
[06:20] <MonkeyMagic> okay there wasn't one called ssl but there was many with the same name
[06:20] <Hmmmm> hey guys, i have a Samsung Syncmaster 740N monitor. the display is rather quirky
[06:20] <MonkeyMagic> *many with ssl in the names
[06:20] <lunasea13_> how do I join Ubuntu-basic?
[06:21] <damian> Hi guys, How can you know if the update tool is working fine in your panel?
[06:21] <nomasteryoda> ya
[06:21] <Polygon89> Hello, does anyone know how to reset your gnome configuration? a couple of my applets and stuff are misbehaving, like when i click the "quit" button it just logs me out without giving me a choice, and im pretty sure its just my config files messing up as other accounts dont have the same problem. Suggestions?
[06:21] <mneptok> lunasea13_: with what do you need help?
[06:21] <cavediver> Hello ther. My wireless card in my Thinkpad X60 is suddenly not found in Ubuntu anymore. Anyone else have this problem?
[06:21] <curtHendzell> I've been pulling my hair out at this, but I can't get my ATI IXP sound card to work correctly.  It will work sometimes, but after restarting, shutting down, etc. my system will come back with no sound
[06:21] <Lurker> ...
[06:21] <Lurker> nomasteryoda, if i type the command in reg terminal it works perfectly
[06:21] <holycow> Polygon89, delete your .gnome preferences from your home folder logout and log back in
[06:21] <poolboy> guys is there any way to report when a part of the wiki needs to be updated?
[06:22] <nomasteryoda> damian, run this command in the terminal.. .   cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "status installed" | grep "`date +%F`"
[06:22] <MonkeyMagic> also, accessories/dictionary doesn't work
[06:22] <mneptok> cavediver: check the physical "wireless on/off" switch on the X60
[06:22] <Polygon89> holycow, ok i shall try that. thanks.
[06:22] <nomasteryoda> will list all packages installed as of today
[06:22] <emilia> anyone want to help me with my screensaver? i can see them load fine in the screensaver wndow, and i can even preview them full screen, but when theyre supposed to load, my screen turns black and thats all.
[06:22] <poolboy> guys is there any way to report when a part of the wiki needs to be updated?
[06:22] <lunasea13_> how to join ubuntu basic
[06:22] <cavediver> mneptok: I didn't even now such a button exist. Where can I find that ?
[06:23] <mneptok> poolboy: go update it. it's a wiki. ;)
[06:23] <MonkeyMagic> emilia: check that system/power management doesn't turn your screen off just before your screensaver should start
[06:23] <mneptok> cavediver: no idea on the X60. on my T60 it's above the keyboard.
[06:23] <emilia> MonkeyMagic, yeah i've checked that
[06:23] <cavediver> I don't think mine have such a button...
[06:23] <cavediver> but i will doublecheck
[06:24] <emilia> MonkeyMagic, my lcd light stays green, the screen is getting a signal, after 15 mins it turns off like in power management settings
[06:24] <poolboy> mneptok: true but I don't know the content I'm reading on it because I want to learn about that specific info and if its guides are out of date and the links are broken i'm not going to have much luck
[06:24] <nomasteryoda> Lurker, try this site... for an idea of what to do ... you can do all this using gedit
[06:24] <Polygon89> poolboy, i think there is a tag like "needs cleanup" or something
[06:24] <Lurker> ok
[06:24] <nomasteryoda> http://www.arcknowledge.com/gmane.comp.gnome.os.redhat/2004-01/msg00017.html
[06:25] <nomasteryoda> just leave out what you don't understand
[06:25] <Lurker> ok
[06:25] <Lurker> thanks
[06:25] <Lurker> i'll come back if i get to confused lol
[06:25] <poolboy> thanks
[06:25] <Lurker> thanks for all your help nomasteryoda
[06:25] <nomasteryoda> but Exec=/usr/local/foo should be /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
[06:25] <nomasteryoda> np
[06:25] <Polygon89> poolboy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CategoryCleanup
[06:25] <Lurker> ok
[06:26] <Flannel> poolboy: you'd probably add it to a category, maybe NeedsExpansion, or Cleanup
[06:26] <sarracenia88> how do i do advanced administration on ubuntu?
[06:26] <cavediver> mneptok: now I found it, it was very well hidden. Have had the laptop 6 month and didnt even know it was there
[06:26] <jackson3246> Hello! I've just installed (after much toil) Ubuntu on a friend's computer. I set up a dual-boot for him on two partitions (the other is Windows XP Home). The only problem I had with installing was that the keyboard, regardless of what I did, would not work while using the Edgy i386 LiveCD. I got around that obstacle by copy/pasting information and changing stuff later via the mouse, but now that it's installed the keyboard on
[06:26] <Polygon89> poolboy, there are most likely other categories, try searching the category list and there should be  something like "needs work" or something
[06:27] <nomasteryoda> Lurker, just drag'n'drop the one you made earlier into a gedit window
[06:27] <MonkeyMagic> nomasteryoda: I enabled security.enable_ssl2 but it didn't help
[06:27] <nomasteryoda> it will open fine
[06:27] <nomasteryoda> MonkeyMagic, you have no proxy setup?
[06:27] <MonkeyMagic> no
[06:27] <Flannel> poolboy: as you add it, your comment might include what needs updating/changing/etc
[06:27] <nomasteryoda> well, you seem to have stumped me brains here
[06:27] <nomasteryoda> looking
[06:27] <Lurker> ok thanks noomaster
[06:28] <smuttyz> Yo, i installed snoopy on my linux server to monitor user commands and my log file for snoopy is spammed full of this Jan 31 23:17:01 laptop CRON[4012] : (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0) wonder what could be wrong?
[06:29] <sarracenia88> could someone help me with an admin question
[06:29] <Ayanami> Ok! :) I have sound, just not in mplayer.
[06:29] <cstextiles> There was a page http://ljl.byethost14.com/apt But now it is offline. Can someone help with me?
[06:29] <MonkeyMagic> nomasteryoda: is there anywhere else i could go to get help with this? ive tried the forums but they didn't know either
[06:29] <nomasteryoda> Lurker, this is it... so simple
[06:29] <Beverage> hey folks whats more "eye-candyish" gnome or KDE?
[06:29] <Ayanami> KDE.
[06:29] <sarracenia88> depends
[06:30] <Beverage> one what?
[06:30] <yellowdart> MonkeyMagic, all i can think of... does it allow you to login if you boot from the livecd??
[06:30] <xelados> Beverage: Beryl, I presume.
[06:30] <MonkeyMagic> no
[06:30] <josys36> Depends.
[06:30] <MonkeyMagic> it has never worked
[06:30] <Beverage> hm
[06:30] <sarracenia88> isn't beryl going to be in feisty?
[06:30] <cafuego_> no
[06:30] <cafuego_> feisty uses compiz
[06:31] <sarracenia88> why not?
[06:31] <josys36> I thought it was.
[06:31] <Ayanami> Considering xgl kills my drm, I hope not.
[06:31] <nomasteryoda> glad i upgraded then ...cause i use beryl... so nice
[06:31] <cafuego_> The config UI is too ugly to be allowed in.
[06:31] <sarracenia88> beryl runs great on my computer
[06:31] <jackson3246> Hello! I've just installed (after much toil) Ubuntu on a friend's computer. I set up a dual-boot for him on two partitions (the other is Windows XP Home). The only problem I had with installing was that the keyboard, regardless of what I did, would not work while using the Edgy i386 LiveCD. I got around that obstacle by copy/pasting information and changing stuff later via the mouse, but now that it's installed the keyboard on
[06:31] <xelados> Does anyone know where I could go to find a decent list of distros? I'm using (x)ubuntu now, but I'd like to explore my options with other distros.
[06:31] <josys36> Where on the ubuntu site does it say that compiz is going to be used?
[06:31] <cchance> I have installed every plugin and all the programs for a dvd but none will work. Xine will quit after the first 9 seconds. any help?
[06:32] <yellowdart> MonkeyMagic, it has always worked "out of the box" every ubuntu (or any distro) installation i've ever done.. so i don't know what to suggest
[06:32] <mneptok> xelados: Distrowatch
[06:32] <ardchoille> xelados, http://distrowatch.com
[06:32] <cafuego_> josys36: I doubt it says that anywhere.
[06:32] <cafuego_> josys36: it's *in* there now though.
[06:32] <xelados> Thanks a lot. I didn't know about that site. :)
[06:32] <sarracenia88> administration question
[06:32] <Ayanami> Ask your question?
[06:32] <MonkeyMagic> yellowdart:could using a proxy help?
[06:32] <sarracenia88> does anyone know how to lock a person to what you can do in the menu bar
[06:32] <nomasteryoda> Lurker, check your other tab
[06:32] <cafuego_> josys36: In that when you install 'desktop-effects', it pulls in compiz.
[06:32] <xelados> jackson3246: could you complete your question/issue?
[06:33] <sarracenia88> this is for a school
[06:33] <josys36> Hua, I was hoping for Beryl.
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> josys36, its easy to install
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> i'm using it now on feisty
[06:33] <cafuego_> josys36: Too many features and no stability.
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> and its very good ...
[06:33] <jackson3246> xelados: how?
[06:33] <cstextiles> There was a PHP based web application which would tell me the list of packages required to be installed given the metapackage and the package to install http://ljl.byethost14.com/apt But now it does not works can anuone help me with that?
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> and great features.... yes too many, but fun nontheless
[06:33] <yellowdart> MonkeyMagic, if you cant connect on the network you have, then a proxy wont help.. really a proxy would be to limit what can pass through
[06:33] <kitche> hmm no stability sounds liek compiz and xgl to me :)
[06:33] <cchance>  I have installed every plugin and all the programs for a dvd but none will work. Xine will quit after the first 9 seconds. any help?
[06:34] <MonkeyMagic> yellowdart: oh okay.
[06:34] <xelados> jackson3246: It seemed to cut off your chat line, so I don't know what the problem is that you're having with the keyboard.
[06:34] <cafuego_> cstextiles: packages.ubuntu.com should do that too, as well as 'apt-cache show'
[06:34] <MonkeyMagic> ive run out of ideas too
[06:34] <jackson3246> xelados: ohh sory. the keyboard doesn't work often (roughly 12.5% of the time) and the system sometimes restarts when I select Ubuntu in GRUB
[06:34] <MonkeyMagic> *sigh* back to windows i go :(
[06:34] <sarracenia88> no
[06:35] <jackson3246> xelados: and the keyboard didn't work at all in the LiveCD
[06:35] <MonkeyMagic> thanks for the help anyway
[06:35] <xelados> Is the keyboard wireless?
[06:35] <jackson3246> xelados: no. it's PS/2
[06:35] <yellowdart> nomasteryoda, beryl is awesome.. i have it on this laptop (ati radeon mobility 9000) and my tower (nvidia 6600gt twinview)
[06:35] <nomasteryoda> yellowdart, nice
[06:35] <Lurker> grrr
[06:35] <nomasteryoda> Lurker, using xchat?
[06:35] <xelados> jackson3246: That's odd. I can't think of any reason for a PS/2 keyboard to stop working.
[06:35] <Ayanami> I take it that mplayer doesn't use gstreamer.
[06:35] <cstextiles> cafuego_: Yes but that tool would also display the packages which the dependent packages dependent on and also hide the package which is already available in the ubuntu metapackage
[06:35] <yellowdart> MonkeyMagic, sorry i couldnt help further.. if i run across anything i'll let you know
[06:36] <Lurker> lost irc
[06:36] <MonkeyMagic> thanks
[06:36] <nomasteryoda> ah
[06:36] <jackson3246> xelados: I would suspect it to be a hardware problem, but it works fine and consistently in windows. could it be a problem with how the kernel is interfacing with the (apparently at least a little bit broken) hardware?
[06:36] <xelados> jackson3246: How old is the computer? Has it had hardware problems in the past? Are other keyboards (USB or such) installed?
[06:36] <cafuego_> cstextiles: I'm having trouble parsing that
[06:36] <Lurker> i can't send u messages but i got it
[06:36] <Lurker> lemme try one sec
[06:36] <ReKlipz> hey guys, how do i play .mpgs in firefox? i downloaded the mplayer plugin for firefox, but it says i need a decoder, where do i get that?
[06:36] <Moxxon> Hey
[06:36] <Moxxon> Im having trouble with getting sound
[06:37] <cchance>  I have installed every plugin and all the programs for a dvd but none will work. Xine will quit after the first 9 seconds. any help?3
[06:37] <Moxxon> I have a soundblaster soundcard
[06:37] <Moxxon> could that be a problem?
[06:37] <jackson3246> xelados: it's about three years old. I'm not sure if you got this part of my message: "The only semi-relevant problem I know of is that his BIOS thinks there's something wrong with his CPU and he has to press F1 every time he boots to get past a weird diagnostic screen."
[06:37] <ardchoille> cchance, Have you installed libdvdcss2 ?
[06:37] <cchance> How do i check
[06:37] <jackson3246> xelados: oh and it's a pentium 4 so nothing strange there. he's not sure what's wrong with it or when the error started occurring
[06:37] <xelados> jackson3246: That could be it.. I dunno. Have you tried other keyboards with it? The problem with the CPU sounds odd, too.
[06:38] <ReKlipz> hey guys, how do i play .mpgs in firefox? i downloaded the mplayer plugin for firefox, but it says i need a decoder, where do i get that?
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> Lurker, right.. i'm registered on freenode... hence the pm to you worked...
[06:38] <xelados> jackson3246: I wouldn't be surprised if the CPU error is related to the keyboard error.
[06:38] <ardchoille> cchance, If it's installed at all, you had to install it. It doesn't come with Ubuntu.
[06:38] <cchance> Im installing libdvdcss2 now
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> ReK_, install w32codecs
[06:38] <xelados> ReKlipz: A decoder? Maybe you just need the codecs.
[06:38] <ardchoille> cchance, Have you installed libdvdread ?
[06:38] <Moxxon> !sound
[06:38] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> er, ReKlipz
[06:38] <jackson3246> xelados: really? I was thinking that but I'm not extremely good with hardware problems so I wasn't really sure. I might just try it out with a new processor, then. thanks!
[06:39] <Lurker> oh
[06:39] <Lurker> there we go =D
[06:39] <Secion8> can someone explain how to get sudo modprobe ndiswrapper to run automatcally at bootup?
[06:39] <xelados> jackson3246: I'm no expert on hardware. Have you tried posting on the forums?
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> Lurker, have fun with it....
[06:39] <ReKlipz> w32codecs?
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> yup
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> !codecs
[06:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:39] <Secion8> I added ndiswrapper to /etc/modules/ But that does not want to work
[06:39] <slipslide> anyone willing to help a noob out with something that went wrong while trying to install ubuntu on a macbook?
[06:39] <ReKlipz> are there any better?
[06:39] <slipslide> made a mistake, wondering if there is a fix
[06:39] <jackson3246> xelados: yeah. nobody's responded
[06:39] <Lurker> wait a sec
[06:39] <Lurker> the cd part messes it up
[06:39] <cstextiles> cafuego_:  eg. Package a depend on B and B on C. then this tool would display all the list i.e. for A it would list B and C
[06:39] <cchance> Yes
[06:40] <cchance> YeS!!!! Its working now Thanks
[06:40] <ardchoille> cchance, :)
[06:40] <Pelo> slipslide,  what is the mistake ?
[06:40] <xelados> jackson3246: Sounds like a pretty unique problem, then. More than likely something somewhere is damaged. But it's not good to have a less-than-perfectly operating CPU. I think most people would agree. :P
[06:40] <cchance> Star Wars Episode Three
[06:40] <sarracenia88> administration support
[06:40] <slipslide> i kept getting a parted error saying that it could not do anything because the drive name was not recognized or somesuch
[06:40] <jackson3246> xelados: yeah. haha. oh well. I think I have an old P4 lying around that I can loan him for experimentation. if not, I think they're pretty cheap nowadays anyway.
[06:41] <sarracenia88> fine i won't ask my question
[06:41] <AzMoo> Where are the default wallpapers kept?
[06:41] <slipslide> so, i looked it up like a good little noob and found a fix (supposedly) that said try to rename /dev/sda
[06:41] <xelados> AzMoo: /usr/share/wallpapers I think
[06:41] <slipslide> so i did do that
[06:41] <slipslide> and disaster strikes
[06:41] <Pelo> slipslide,  was it a  sata drive ?
[06:41] <xelados> Let me go check.
[06:41] <AzMoo> xelados, negative.
[06:41] <slipslide> now the drive simply says unallocated space for everything
[06:41] <slipslide> no, it wasnt
[06:41] <ardchoille> AzMoo, /usr/share/backgrounds
[06:42] <slipslide> macbook
[06:42] <slipslide> so...fairly certain it wasnt
[06:42] <xelados> Ah, I was close. >_>
[06:42] <slipslide> these things are pretty cheap
[06:42] <AzMoo> ardchoille, that makes sense. Cheers.
[06:42] <Pelo> slipslide,  then it shouldn'T have been  sda
[06:42] <nomasteryoda> an external drive will be /dev/sda
[06:42] <slipslide> perhaps it was for some reason? because its a laptop?
[06:42] <slipslide> hmm
[06:42] <nomasteryoda> sata or otherwise...
[06:42] <Lurker> hey nomasteryoda
[06:43] <slipslide> just checked again
[06:43] <slipslide> definetly says /dev/sda, maybe it has to do with the funky efi stuff this computer does?
[06:43] <Lurker> woops
[06:43] <Lurker> accidently closed down gdm
[06:43] <slipslide> anyways, my question is...there any way to recover those partitions lost?
[06:43] <IPKnightly> hello@
[06:43] <IPKnightly> hello!*
[06:43] <nomasteryoda> slipslide, yes
[06:43] <tonyyarusso> nomasteryoda: (unless your regular drive is sda :) )
[06:43] <nomasteryoda> just second
[06:44] <nomasteryoda> tonyyarusso, true
[06:44] <nomasteryoda> some laptops do have sata drives
[06:44] <Lurker> well the command works fine to open the program but i need to be in /home/name/thule for hte program to run
[06:44] <Secion8> What file is read at boot time? I need get ndiswrapper to run when the system starts!
[06:44] <nomasteryoda> newer ones in fact
[06:44] <IPKnightly> ah yes, I see
[06:44] <tonyyarusso> nomasteryoda: Also, heads up, Feisty on everything will be named sd(something) I believe, due to a change in lower level structure.
[06:45] <nomasteryoda> Lurker, so you sudo cp file over to your /usr/local/bin/ then make sure it is +x... if this is a script...
[06:45] <slipslide> hey, i appreciate this help guys...hesitant to bother the people who actually know what they are doing
[06:45] <pppoe_dude> Secion8, you're probably thinking of /etc/rc.local
[06:45] <josys36> Hua?
[06:45] <josys36> Where did that come from?
[06:46] <cstextiles> cafuego_: Does anyone knows about this link http://ljl.byethost14.com/apt
[06:46] <burner> tonyyarusso: after upgrading to feisty, my stuff remains as hda
[06:46] <pppoe_dude> Secion8, i am not familiar with ndiswrapper, but is it a kernel module?
[06:46] <burner> !ndiswrapper | pppoe_dude
[06:46] <ubotu> pppoe_dude: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> burner: I think we might still be waiting on that change.  I heard some folks talking about it this weekend
[06:46] <Pelo> slipslide,  would you prefer to bother ppl who don't know what they are doing ?
[06:46] <slipslide> heh, prefer not to bother at all
[06:47] <holycow> !seveas
[06:47] <yellowdart> tonyyarusso, anything that is a serial connection (sata or scsi) will always be names /dev/sdX
[06:47] <slipslide> i usually just give up at this point
[06:47] <slipslide> reinstall
[06:47] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages.  I am a linux newbie
[06:48] <Secion8> So please go easy on me
[06:48] <pppoe_dude> Secion8, im not familiar with the workings of ndiswrapper
[06:48] <burner> slipslide: you renamed a /dev?  uh oh... you can prolly boot the cd, chroot and make the change back
[06:48] <pppoe_dude> Secion8, but you can write bash commands in /etc/rc.local that will start with any runlevel
[06:48] <slipslide> i am running the cd right now
[06:49] <Secion8> ok thanx, Perhaps you know how to make commands fire at run time?
[06:49] <slipslide> command it said to use was to make a new label for the drive
[06:49] <Pelo> Secion8,  how about making your command into a small bash file and then putting that in the session manager so it launches at boot ?
[06:49] <burner> slipslide: so you can prolly just chroot and copy the livecd's working /dev to the installation's /dev
[06:49] <pppoe_dude> Secion8, ya... just add them to rc.local before the exit line
[06:49] <burner> slipslide: oh... use gparted to do so?
[06:49] <slipslide> no, terminal
[06:49] <aalhamad> what is the deveopment package fro mysql??
[06:49] <slipslide> i can try to find it again
[06:50] <slipslide> may be difficult
[06:50] <slipslide> mailing list
[06:50] <FragUPlenty> yay
[06:50] <yellowdart> Secion8, sudo ndiswrapper -m
[06:50] <FragUPlenty> I got quake 3 working
[06:50] <burner> nexuiz > quake 3 :)
[06:50] <FragUPlenty> anyone know why though the videos wont play
[06:50] <Secion8> Pelo, Do you know a how to on making bash files? That would be useful to know in my linux life.
[06:51] <nomasteryoda> codecs i would guess FragUPlenty
[06:51] <nomasteryoda> missing codecs
[06:51] <Pelo> Secion8,  hold on
[06:51] <FragUPlenty> yea I guessed that
[06:51] <nomasteryoda> tonyyarusso, thanks for that heads up
[06:51] <FragUPlenty> anyone know what codec it uses to play th videos
[06:51] <aalhamad> can anybody help me plz.
[06:51] <slipslide> alright, so there was a mac partition, efi partition, 500mb swap, and a reiserfs partition
[06:51] <slipslide> that one command turned the entire drive to unallocated space
[06:51] <Pelo> Secion8,   http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84
[06:51] <nomasteryoda> on sd(something)
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> !bash | Secion8
[06:51] <ubotu> Secion8: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:52] <Secion8> Yellowdart, Thank you I will see if that works
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> FragUPlenty: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:52] <Secion8> Pelo, Thank you
[06:53] <Lurker> hey
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> aalhamad: What is the message you're getting that makes you think you need a dev pkg for mysql?
[06:53] <Lurker> how do you copy a folder?
[06:53] <Lurker> using terminal
[06:53] <Lurker> so i can sudo
[06:53] <slipslide> cp
[06:53] <Lurker> it says omitting directory
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> Lurker: cp -R
[06:53] <Lurker> kk
[06:53] <Lurker> thanks
[06:53] <quaal> has anyone ever dealt with mounting a raid-0 array with an ntfs partition on it? i ahve a sil3112a raid controller. i'm trying to use this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2557
[06:54] <FragUPlenty> just got the video working
[06:54] <FragUPlenty> ok
[06:54] <FragUPlenty> so it was the mpeg lib it needed
[06:55] <Secion8> ubotu, I am familiar with the terminal and use it quite a bit.
[06:55] <pppoe_dude> Secion8, ubotu doesn't understand humans
[06:55] <Pelo> Secion8,  ubot8 is a bot
[06:55] <Pelo> ubotu
[06:55] <slipslide> heh
[06:55] <aalhamad> what really i dont know.. a friend of mine is using cgi (perl ) to do proc. he said you have to install the develop pakcges .. so i want to install it until he comes back
[06:56] <FragUPlenty> now I want to get rid of this annoying window that opens that prompts me what to do with a binary file
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> Secion8: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/
[06:56] <Pelo> !ubotu | Secion8
[06:56] <ubotu> Secion8: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:56] <pppoe_dude> aalhamad, i would guess mysql-dev
[06:56] <brum_> i do not have a CD to write the ubuntu ISO to, can i get the installer on a bootable USB or something?
[06:56] <witless> i have some Hi-8 analog video/audio that i'd like to convert to high-quality digital.  is there anything that works particularly well with ubuntu?
[06:56] <pppoe_dude> brum_, there is a way to do it
[06:56] <pppoe_dude> brum_, but you need google to help you with that... not straightforward
[06:57] <brum_> i have been googling for the last while
[06:57] <Secion8> Pelo, tons at revision3 site, That will keep me going for a while, Thanx, Secion8 goes off to study :)
[06:57] <FragUPlenty> there must be a way to turn that damn window off
[06:57] <brum_> any search pointers?
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> !install | brum
[06:57] <ubotu> brum: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> brum: maybe
[06:57] <gansinho> hello, please, how do I create a new entry in gconf-editor?
[06:57] <pppoe_dude> brum_, i did it once with debian netinst
[06:57] <AzMoo> brum_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[06:57] <FragUPlenty> it prompts me if I want to run, run in terminal, display or close
[06:58] <Secion8> oh, Dont talk to the bot. hehe
[06:58] <mhiku> how can i add /foo/bar in the search folder for whereis? so i can run command locally?
[06:58] <pppoe_dude> brum, try also searching for guides to other distros
[06:59] <brum> thanks all - i will check out suggestions
[07:00] <Hitheck> Anyone remember what file determines the number of ttys?
[07:00] <Pelo> brum,  do a search on digg, there was an article last week about linux on usb drives, that might help
[07:01] <slipslide> ok, im looking at the GNU Storage Guide and it says label recovery is possible with the command "parted rescue"
[07:01] <slipslide> however
[07:01] <slipslide> tried that, get the error
[07:01] <slipslide> Error: Could not stat device rescue - No such file or directory.
[07:01] <slipslide> anyone have ideas?
[07:02] <bytee_> Hi. With an Intel Core 2 Duo laptop, would I be installing the 64-bit version of Edgy or the PC install?
[07:02] <Pelo> slipslide,  boot from the live cd,  in the menu in system admin you will find gparted,  launch it and it will give you the names of the drive it sees, that might help you
[07:02] <slipslide> yep, i have that
[07:02] <slipslide> been using it the whole time...trying to recover from changing the label
[07:02] <slipslide> not quite sure what you mean?
[07:02] <Hitheck> bytee: You're probably better off with x86 for compatibility sake (in terms of software, not actual hardware).
[07:03] <dougb> can i upgrade to feisty by changing the repos?
[07:03] <Pelo> slipslide,  I thought you needed thenames of the partitions
[07:03] <slipslide> they were lost because i changed the label
[07:03] <slipslide> any way to recover from that?
[07:03] <slipslide> i did it from the command line, just saw the option in gpart with the warning about not doing that or you erase everything
[07:04] <slipslide> bit late however
[07:04] <Pelo> slipslide,  I don't know, I have never had that problem,  maybe the ppl at ##linux can help
[07:04] <Hitheck> dougb: Pretty much, might run into dependency hell over all the upgraded packages though. Probably best to just do a clean install.
[07:04] <slipslide> thanks
[07:04] <dougb> ok thanks Hitheck
[07:05] <Lurker> well
[07:05] <Lurker> im out
[07:05] <Lurker> thanks for the help yoda
[07:05] <Lurker> though i still haven't got it to work =/
[07:05] <Lurker> good night *wave*
[07:05] <bulmer> i've attempting to install unbuntu on a slave drive, I didnt get very far, and it messed up my primary drive, now I cant boot..it clobbered MBR on the primary?
[07:06] <Pelo> gtg, g'night folks
[07:06] <frogzoo> wowa weewa - using ramdisk as swap is hard core
[07:07] <anthonyj> so this is the support channel?  are there any kind of rules of engagment?
[07:08] <bytee_> Hitheck: ok, thanks
[07:08] <frogzoo> anthonyj: language & OT - that's about it
[07:09] <Gosha> what kind program would i use if i wanted to replace text in a file by using regex?
[07:09] <bulmer> Gosch like sed and awk
[07:09] <mhiku> how to set path?
[07:09] <unop> Gosha,  a scripting/programming language perhaps
[07:10] <anthonyj> ok, so i've notived a good amount of question about slow internet.  But I have yet to find anything that applies to me.  I am running Edgy w/ Firefox amd64 and when I browse internet sites they load slow.  Just looking for a pointer here
[07:10] <unop> anthonyj,  look at disabling IPv6 in the kernel and firefox name lookups
[07:10] <bulmer> anthonyj: for one, diable ipv6
[07:10] <Gosha> oh, geez
[07:10] <bulmer> disable*
[07:11] <cafuego_> Just disable it in firefox, leave the kernel.
[07:11] <bushblows> when i try to do "mysqladmin -h local-machine-name -u root -p password your-new-password" it says "mysqladmin: connect to server at 'nongle' failed
[07:11] <mhiku> how to add a path in PATH variable in set command?
[07:12] <bushblows> error: 'Lost connection to MySQL server during query'
[07:12] <bushblows> any ideas
[07:12] <Gosha> unop, thanks anyway .. i guess i'll try with perl or python or something
[07:12] <bulmer> Gosha: or sed and awk  :)
[07:13] <Explosif> !flash
[07:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:13] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[07:13] <unop> Gosha, i'd say experiment and go with what you felt is easiest/best for your job
[07:13] <Wilbert> Hello
[07:13] <Gosha> what is sed and awk then?
[07:13] <Wilbert> anyone could help me around
[07:13] <navreet> anyone here played with mono under ubuntu?
[07:13] <Wilbert> Good Night
[07:13] <unop> Gosha,  the predecessors to perl :)
[07:13] <navreet> does system.windows.forms work?
[07:13] <Gosha> :O
[07:13] <bulmer> Gosha: sed is stream editor
[07:14] <Wilbert> May I ask a question
[07:14] <Gosha> which one would be the easiest?
[07:14] <navreet> Wilbert, yes
[07:14] <unop> !ask | Wilbert
[07:14] <ubotu> Wilbert: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:14] <Wilbert> sorry if i disturb you
[07:14] <Wilbert> thanks
[07:14] <bulmer> Gosha: nothing is easy with regexp :)
[07:14] <Gosha> well, i managed to make the right regex thing
[07:14] <Gosha> it's just the replacing left
[07:14] <unop> Gosha,  errm, thats a hard one to answer -- depends on your background (in programming/scripting)
[07:15] <Gosha> .. uhm ...
[07:15] <Gosha> like ..
[07:15] <Wilbert> well i Just installed the ubuntu 7.04  but i Cannot install or find the way to get automatix running
[07:15] <Gosha> did hello world in perl python c++ and some others ..
[07:15] <Wilbert> how do i do it, if it is possible?
[07:15] <Explosif> hey all, If i need to get the flash plugin, and im downloading Gnash, is there a specific plugin that i need for firefox?
[07:15] <unop> Gosha,  well, in perl you can simply do -- perl -i -pe ' /regex/ and do { $_="replacement text"}' file
[07:15] <ardchoille> !automatix | Wilbert
[07:15] <ubotu> Wilbert: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:16] <sivik> ok, i have a program that runs from /opt and i want to be able to run that application from the run command on the menu, i have already made a link, but that isn't working, what else could i try
[07:16] <Gosha> "  perl -i -pe ' /regex/ and do { $_="replacement text"}'file'    " ?
[07:16] <bulmer> sivik run command on the menu? this is not microsoft noh?
[07:17] <Wilbert> ok i just need to install some more programs I used automatix for instaling and these programas are: win32codecs, libdvdcss, drivers for Nvidia and that all
[07:17] <unop> Gosha, replace the contents of a line in a file if a line matches a regex
[07:17] <Wilbert> how do I do that?
[07:17] <ardchoille> !nvidia | Wilbert
[07:17] <ubotu> Wilbert: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:18] <ardchoille> wilbert, to get libdvdcss2, install libdvdread and then go to /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3 and run the script in the examples directory.
[07:18] <Gosha> of a whole line?
[07:18] <Wilbert> thanks about Nvdia and what about the lindvdcss and win32 codecs
[07:18] <EchoBinary> hodwy all :)
[07:18] <Gosha> O_O
[07:18] <ardchoille> Wilbert, To get w32codes, see the Seveas repo
[07:18] <ardchoille> !seveas | Wilbert
[07:18] <ubotu> Wilbert: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:18] <unop> Gosha,  yea -- this replaces the whole line
[07:18] <Wilbert> thanks alot
[07:19] <EchoBinary> anyone have any idea how to get an Atheros wifi card up and running under Edgy Eft?  (Lenovo x60)
[07:19] <Wilbert> you have been very helpful
[07:19] <fokuslee> is lsb-release nolonger packaged with ubuntu?
[07:19] <Gosha> ... O_o
[07:19] <ardchoille> Wilbert, As you can see, automatix is not needed :)
[07:19] <sivik> bulmer, what ever its called
[07:19] <sivik> bulmer, i think its called the menu on the gui that i'm running
[07:19] <Wilbert> yes but i am a newbie at linux
[07:19] <Flannel> fokuslee: it's lsb_release, not lsb-release
[07:19] <nomasteryoda> EchoBinary, you need madwifi
[07:19] <Wilbert> mainly at ubuntu
[07:19] <nomasteryoda> !madwifi
[07:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:19] <fokuslee> oh ok
[07:20] <fokuslee> thx
[07:20] <shdwghst457> can anyone here help me with getting the live cd to boot the gui on an eMac?
[07:20] <unop> Gosha, yea, you're probably thinking "what the hell .. i dont understand how it works" .. but that's idiomatic perl and the shortcuts (and ease) it provides
[07:20] <Wilbert> but i Liked this 7.04 alpha version
[07:20] <ardchoille> Wilbert, Well, you're in the best chanel for learning Ubuntu
[07:20] <Wilbert> thanks
[07:20] <ardchoille> Wilbert, If you're on Fesity, you might also wanna /join #ubuntu+1
[07:20] <nomasteryoda> EchoBinary, and network-manager
[07:20] <bulmer> sivik: you want to click an icon ?
[07:20] <nomasteryoda> or nm-applet
[07:20] <nomasteryoda> nn
[07:20] <sivik> bulmer, no i want to run it from the run command
[07:20] <Flannel> Wilbert: er... feisty is probably a bad place to start, you probably want to learn on a stable distro, not one riddled with bugs and instability
[07:20] <shdwghst457> eMac help please!!
[07:20] <Wilbert> sorry if i have mispelled words, english is not my native language
[07:21] <EchoBinary> hmmm
[07:21] <unop> Gosha,  but then, if you think about it .. it's the shortness/brevity of a language like perl or sed that allows someone to come up with a powerful command in a couple of seconds -- but at a price, you really need to know and understand the languages
[07:21] <EchoBinary> it appears that Atheros does not appear on the list of supported wifi cards?
[07:21] <fokuslee> !feisty
[07:21] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:21] <bulmer> sivik: i have not seen that run command, under which menu is that?
[07:21] <Gosha> unop: i get it ... it's that i'm lazy ... :(
[07:21] <Gosha> which is not good
[07:22] <ardchoille> Can't wait to see what the Ubuntu devs choose as a name when they get to the X's lol
[07:22] <Wilbert> I am trying the 7.04 because of the multimedia programs, I am a musician and i like the programs it includes in ti
[07:22] <sivik> bulmer: i'm in e17
[07:22] <Wilbert> in it, sorry
[07:22] <unop> Gosha,  well, perl was invented by a lazy (and very smart man) for lazy men -- but there's an initial learning phase you have to get through
[07:22] <Flannel> Wilbert: What does Feisty include that Edgy doesnt?
[07:22] <jaleskov> YO!!!!
[07:23] <fokuslee> Flannel Beryl
[07:23] <adortok> anyone in CS457
[07:23] <sivik> Flannel, and a newer kernel native
[07:23] <ppcguy> hey all.. Getting ready to take a class for .NET. I know I know.. any open source editors avail I can use? I have a copy of wincrap but don't want to install if I don't have too
[07:23] <shdwghst457> my eMac wont start GNOME because of the odd built in display, just gives errors please help!
[07:23] <sivik> ppcguy: have you tried monodevelop
[07:23] <adortok> anyone go to university of waterloo?
[07:23] <jaleskov> I do
[07:23] <unop> Gosha, do you have any programming experience? maybe i could suggest something else?
[07:23] <adortok> i program
[07:23] <Wilbert> I dont really know, I used to have Kubuntu and some of my hardware didn not worked fine, but un 7.04 they are working great
[07:23] <jaleskov> me too
[07:23] <Gosha> not much programming experience
[07:23] <adortok> i have a lot
[07:23] <adortok> senior level programmer
[07:24] <detectivebob> How do you do security updates via terminal (using ubuntu server 6.06)
[07:24] <unop> Gosha,  what languages?
[07:24] <Gosha> a lil' bit of many .. kind of
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> detectivebob: enable the security repo, and use apt w/ upgrade
[07:24] <adortok> java, c++, j#, pascal, COBAL
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> !offtopic
[07:24] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:24] <Gosha> tried .. let's see here ..python, perl, visual, basic .. c++, c# and java.. i think
[07:24] <unop> Gosha,  well, do tell, as i cant suggest something without knowing where you come from, can i?
[07:25] <Gosha> but i read pretty much about perl
[07:25] <Gosha> visual basic**
[07:25] <Gosha> ..
[07:25] <knoppix> #debian-es
[07:25] <Gosha> perl*
[07:25] <detectivebob> "upgrade"? doesn't that just update every package to the newest one?
[07:25] <Gosha> :P
[07:25] <unop> Gosha,  well, sounds like perl is suited for you then
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> detectivebob: Yes.  Which is what you would want for just security updates.
[07:25] <Gosha> yes, i know .. but i stopped learning because of the regex XD
[07:26] <SoundGuy29> hey .
[07:26] <unop> Gosha, but regexes are easy if you have the right resources
[07:26] <fokuslee> how many programming courses generally for a CS major?
[07:26] <Gosha> yeah, i know
[07:26] <SoundGuy29> anyone can help me figure out why i can' tget putty to work with public key auth ?
[07:26] <Gosha> .. but in this perl book i read the half book ( it felt like ) was about regex
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> Programming course chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please...it's not a support issue.
[07:26] <SoundGuy29> i get "server refused our key"
[07:26] <Gosha> .. and i understood the first part ... and slightly stopped to get it
[07:27] <Flannel> sivik, fokuslee, neither of which are reasons for a newbie to be learning on Feisty.
[07:27] <SoundGuy29> i put the public ket in .ssh/authorized_keys
[07:27] <SoundGuy29> what am i doing wrong ?
[07:27] <Explosif> hmm, after my updates my flash in mozilla doesnt work anymore, any ideas?
[07:27] <SoundGuy29> is there anyway to debug it ?
[07:28] <unop> Gosha, you can always seek guidance and help in #perl
[07:28] <shdwghst457> who here has an eMac?
[07:28] <fokuslee> yep something more stable is nice 6.06 then
[07:28] <Gosha> that's a good idea XD
[07:28] <fokuslee> !dapper
[07:28] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[07:28] <Gosha> .. btw, what is the new ubuntu release called?
[07:28] <SoundGuy29> anyone can help me figure out why i can't get putty to work with public key auth when connecting to my Ubuntu 6.06 ??
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> Gosha: Edgy Eft 6.10 is current
[07:29] <unop> Gosha, feisty fawn
[07:29] <Flannel> Gosha: 7.04 is the next one. (codename Feisty Fawn)
[07:29] <Gosha> kay
[07:29] <Gosha> well, thanks for the help O/
[07:30] <SoundGuy29> anyone can help me figure out why i can't get putty to work with public key auth when connecting to my Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[07:30] <bonesaw> can anyone that can help me setup vsftp please /msg me got a couple quick ?'s
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> !pm | bonesaw
[07:30] <ubotu> bonesaw: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> bonesaw: just ask
[07:31] <unop> SoundGuy29,  well, you can enabled debugging in the sshd_config file for the server to log to syslog .. and also using the -d and -v flags to the ssh client
[07:31] <fokuslee> Flannel when i do lsb_release i get no LSB module found but cat /etc/lsb-release show the info
[07:31] <unop> s/enabled/enable/
[07:31] <bonesaw> i thought i did ask in the channel
[07:31] <SoundGuy29> i'll try unop
[07:31] <fokuslee> Flannel also u were talking about u can't learn 'linux' wut does that mean?
[07:31] <unop> fokuslee,  you need to install the lsb modules :)
[07:31] <SoundGuy29> where in ssh_config ?
[07:32] <tonyyarusso> bonesaw: You only said you had questions, not what they are :)
[07:32] <bonesaw> oh
[07:32] <fokuslee> unop in 6.06 they were installed by default rite? but not in edgy?
[07:32] <rcrook>  /etc/ssh
[07:32] <unop> fokuslee,  can you learn how to live a lifestyle? no, you just go with it, each day presents its own hurdles, you seem to learn .. but everyone at a differrent pace and different things
[07:32] <rcrook>  /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[07:32] <SoundGuy29> no where in the file ? what fild IN the file
[07:32] <unop> SoundGuy29,  man sshd_config
[07:32] <Perryman> could anyone recommend a codec pack?
[07:32] <bonesaw> i need to setup vsftp, setup a user, and a folder to transfer web content to
[07:33] <unop> bonesaw,  man vsftpd :)
[07:33] <fokuslee> unop oh lol thats wut flannel meant its more philosophical i was talking about wut i should get first mcse cert or linux cert
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> bonesaw: The user will just be a regular system user; you don't need to add them to vsftpd explicitly like you would with mysql, unless you're restricting access to certain users, in which case it's a line in the config file.
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> bonesaw: As far as "set up", just install the package, then think about what your exact reqs are.
[07:34] <fokuslee> unop im trying to get an IT job
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> bonesaw: There are options in the config file to chroot certain users to their home directory, which is probably what you want for that third part.
[07:34] <unop> fokuslee,  well, if you want my honest opinion .. the world of computing is dominated by microsoft, so its definitely worth getting an MCSE (or a couple of MCPs)
[07:35] <bonesaw> ok
[07:35] <fokuslee> unop yeah ur soo rite even in my workplace which is OEM for riverbed still 99 percent M$ and the IT admin barely knows linux
[07:35] <fokuslee> unop but linux is more interesting to learn
[07:36] <daev> just tried to use bc43xx-fwcutter on the wl_apsta.o driver and got an error... part of it tells me that i should use a newer driver.
[07:36] <fokuslee> msdos copied linux anywayz
[07:36] <daev> i can paste, but i will refrain from taking up 8 lines in here
[07:36] <unop> fokuslee,  but again, linux is emerging at a fast pace .. so a couple of linux certs will help , especially now that companies are trying to interoperate microsoft and *nix ..
[07:37] <daev> anyone know a good amount about the Broadcom wireless and firmware cutter?
[07:37] <fokuslee> unop kk thx abunch mate oh does vista still use 3 letter extensiton?
[07:37] <unop> fokuslee,  linux came along a long time after msdos was being phased out -- msdos is derived from cp/m (which is derived from unix tho)
[07:37] <fokuslee> unop yeah ur rite linux is 1991 i meant unix
[07:38] <unop> fokuslee,  most definitely -- its how windows identifies files/formats -- an .exe or .dll cannot be so without the extentions
[07:38] <sivik> Flannel: i know, but he asked what the difference was
[07:38] <deke> has anyone successfully gotten Xen running on Ubuntu 6.10 amd 64
[07:39] <fokuslee> unop ok thx for all ur help time for bed
[07:39] <Phuzion> Anyone here want to take a shot in the dark why I can't ping anything with my headless machine here?
[07:40] <unop> Phuzion,  can you ping the interface's own ip address?
[07:40] <threeseas> how do you fix a blank screen after login?
[07:41] <Phuzion> unop, yes
[07:41] <unop> Phuzion,  can you ping that interface's default gateway?
[07:41] <Phuzion> nope
[07:41] <unop> Phuzion,  well, there's your problem then :) is it a wired or wireless link?
[07:41] <Phuzion> Wired
[07:42] <unop> Phuzion,  how is the interface getting an IP address?? DHCP or static?
[07:42] <Phuzion> static
[07:42] <Phuzion> self-set DNS as well
[07:43] <unop> Phuzion,  well, double check the IP addressing scheme you are using then -- verify that the IP address and subnet mask ensure that that interface is in the same subnet as other machines on the network
[07:43] <unop> Phuzion,  and make sure that the default gateway corresponds to a router (that exists)
[07:43] <yellowdart> threeseas, are you logging into X?
[07:44] <Phuzion> unop: the machine had the exact same IP address 5 minutes before I took it down to upgrade a RAM module
[07:44] <Phuzion> it was running fine for 56 days
[07:44] <unop> Phuzion, and were you able to ping then?
[07:44] <Phuzion> i was able to do lots of things
[07:44] <Phuzion> pinging was definitely one of them
[07:45] <meshyf> anyone know how to change a theme via the terminal?
[07:45] <unop> Phuzion, ok, check the output of ifconfig to see if the link is up and working
[07:45] <Phuzion> seems like it should work
[07:46] <unop> Phuzion, can you !pastebin the output of ifconfig ?
[07:46] <Phuzion> unfortunately, no
[07:46] <Phuzion> it's a headless machine, and I have no network connection to it
[07:46] <Phuzion> and I do not feel like typing this out
[07:47] <unop> Phuzion,  copy and paste to http://pastebin.ca
[07:47] <Phuzion> unop:  are you reading what I'm saying?
[07:47] <AzMoo> unop, he can't copy and paste it.
[07:47] <Phuzion> its a headless machine with no network connection
[07:47] <Phuzion> well, not headless right now
[07:47] <unop> Phuzion,  ahh, sorry, wasnt paying good attention
[07:47] <Phuzion> alright
[07:48] <Phuzion> anything specific you're looking for?
[07:48] <AzMoo> Phuzion, don't mean to state the obvious, but have you tested the cable?
[07:48] <Phuzion> AzMoo: the machine was up and running 5 minutes ago, the cable got moved maybe 5 inches
[07:48] <threeseas> how what when where who... do you do to fit a blank screen after login....?
[07:48] <meshyf> anyone know how to change a theme via the terminal?
[07:49] <unop> Phuzion,  just that ifconfig indicates that the link is up .. you have the right ip address
[07:49] <AzMoo> Phuzion, yeah, I've seen cables die like that.
[07:49] <unop> Phuzion,  well, the cable just has to be dislodged by a couple of millimetres for the link to come down -- ensure that the cable is locked in tight (and that LEDs indicate the physical link is up)
[07:50] <meshyf> !theme
[07:50] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:50] <Phuzion> cable checks out
[07:51] <ardchoille> mesha, Which theme? Icon theme? GTK2 theme? Metacity theme?
[07:51] <unop> Phuzion,  what does the cable plug into at the other end?
[07:51] <Phuzion> dumb switch
[07:51] <Phuzion> which is fine
[07:51] <unop> Phuzion,  does that end indicate the link is up?
[07:51] <Phuzion> yes
[07:51] <Phuzion> the other machine on that switch can also ping to google
[07:52] <threeseas> nothing like losing your scren when trying to get wireless to work
[07:52] <unop> Phuzion, what happens when you try and ping the default gateway then? exact error message
[07:52] <Phuzion> destination host unreachable
[07:53] <Phuzion> 15 packets xmitted, 0 recieved, 9+ errors
[07:53] <threeseas> there are a ton of people here... I guess most all are parking
[07:53] <beoba> stop, hammertime?
[07:53] <Phuzion> no, it's
[07:53] <Phuzion> stop, collaborate and listen
[07:53] <unop> Phuzion,  ok, the following questions are going to be really painful, bear with me ... are you 100% sure that the default gateway exists?
[07:53] <Phuzion> unop yes
[07:53] <Phuzion> it responds to ping too
[07:54] <ardchoille> mesha, To change themes via the terminal, use the gconftool-2. But, the command you use depends on which theme you want to change. Here is how you change the GTK2 theme via terminal:  gconftool-2 --type string --set /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_theme "themenamehere"
[07:54] <unop> Phuzion, eh? you said "destination host unreachable", no?
[07:54] <Phuzion> Correct
[07:54] <AzMoo> Phuzion, then it didn't respond to ping.
[07:54] <unop> Phuzion,  so the pings arent working then
[07:54] <Phuzion> AzMoo: From a different pc it responds to ping
[07:55] <unop> Phuzion,  are you sure the IP addressing you are using here is comparable to another machine on the network?
[07:55] <Phuzion> <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> should be comparable, right?
[07:55] <unop> Phuzion,  well, the subnet masks and default gateways could be differrent and that changes the dynamics totally
[07:55] <AzMoo> Phuzion, depending on your subnet, but usually yes.
[07:55] <gmcinnes_> Hi all:  When I'm booting off the install cd for 6.10 the cd reaches a point where the graphics go crazy.  I get a mess of stuff on the screen.
[07:56] <Phuzion> The subnets are the same
[07:56] <joshwa> download the alternate iso, gmcinnes.
[07:56] <ardchoille> meshyf,  Which theme? Icon theme? GTK2 theme? Metacity theme?
[07:56] <gmcinnes_> where's that?
[07:57] <joshwa> livecd gives me nightmares.
[07:57] <AzMoo> Phuzion, you can ping localhost and the ip address assigned to the interface?
[07:57] <ardchoille> meshyf, To change themes via the terminal, use the gconftool-2. But, the command you use depends on which theme you want to change. Here is how you change the GTK2 theme via terminal:  gconftool-2 --type string --set /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_theme "themenamehere"
[07:57] <ardchoille> mesha, Sorry, tab completion bit me, lol
[07:57] <Phuzion> AzMoo, yes
[07:57] <meshyf> And that should change everything back to the original setting?
[07:57] <joshwa> you can download it from the homepage.
[07:57] <meshyf>  The problem is that I tried installing a new cursor pack and I guess I botched it.
[07:57] <gmcinnes_> joshwa: is it called 'alternate iso' ?
[07:58] <gmcinnes_> I don't really want a live cd.  I want to install.
[07:58] <AzMoo> gmcinnes_, yes, the alternate iso is an install cd
[07:58] <unop> Phuzion,  if you issue a 'route -n' .. does the default route (<IP_ADDRESS>) have a destination/next hop of your default gateway? also, do you have multiple default routes?
[07:58] <pavs> I am king of the world!!! I have succesfully installed wireless card (I had to buy a wireless USB card for 50 bucks) after three days to grueling googling and installing and uninstalling and compiliting and editing configuration files and finishing two cases of redbull I finally installed wireless in my ubuntu :)
[07:59] <joshwa> the alternate iso lets you install in a text based mode.
[07:59] <Wilbert> Hello, is Seveas around?
[07:59] <Phuzion> unop, explain more please, I'm a little confused
[07:59] <Phuzion> Wilbert, I haven't seen him around today
[07:59] <unop> Phuzion,  ok, first off, does the machine have multiple NICs?
[07:59] <Phuzion> No
[08:00] <Wilbert> I tried to download from his page the repositori  but it gives me error
[08:00] <Wilbert>  that i cannot download the file i needed
[08:00] <unop> Phuzion,  issue a `route -n` command -- what is the destination of the <IP_ADDRESS> route?
[08:00] <meshyf> Could anyone give me the name of a theme that comes with ubuntu?
[08:00] <AzMoo> meshyf, human
[08:00] <meshyf> Thanks :3
[08:01] <Phuzion> unop, you mean the one where <IP_ADDRESS> is in the first column or the second?
[08:01] <unop> Phuzion,  errm, in the first
[08:02] <Phuzion> "<IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> U 0 0 0 eth0" is the whole column, separated by spaces
[08:02] <threeseas> man, woireless is such a pain
[08:02] <meshyf> !gconfigtool
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gconfigtool - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <Wilbert> anyine could help me?
[08:02] <Phuzion> !anyone
[08:02] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:03] <Wilbert> this is the error i got at my terminal after i added the repositories from seveas page
[08:03] <Wilbert> Err http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl edgy-seveas/all libdvdcss2 1.2.9-0.0ubuntu4
[08:03] <Wilbert>   403 Forbidden
[08:03] <pavs> how can I bridge two wireless connection?
[08:03] <meshyf> Anyone know how I can revert to a defult theme? The one I tried useing broke my top tray
[08:03] <gmcinnes_> "The alternate install CD allows you to perform certain specialist installations of Ubuntu. It provides for the following situations:
[08:03] <gmcinnes_>     * creating pre-configured OEM systems;
[08:03] <gmcinnes_>     * setting up automated deployments; "
[08:03] <gmcinnes_> perfect!
[08:04] <gmcinnes_> sorry for the flood!
[08:04] <Phuzion> unop: any ideas here?
[08:04] <unop> Phuzion, do you have a DHCP server on the network?
[08:04] <Phuzion> Yes, I do
[08:04] <daev> wilbert: looks like his page has the issue not you
[08:04] <unop> Phuzion,  for the sakes of troubleshooting -- set the interface to recieve a DHCP lease and see if that improves the situation
[08:04] <threeseas> how do you uninstall someting from the command line?
[08:05] <unop> threeseas,  sudo aptitude remove package
[08:05] <Phuzion> unop: how should I do that? dhclient?
[08:05] <Wilbert> what do you mean, daev? that the page is worng?
[08:05] <AzMoo> Wilbert, the page is saying that you don't have the access to the file you want. There's nothing you can do about that.
[08:06] <unop> Phuzion,  I tend to edit the /etc/network/interfaces file and set the link to "auto" .. pretty much like lo0 .. and comment the rest out -- so that you can come back later and reenable the old config
[08:06] <Phuzion> ok
[08:06] <unop> Phuzion,  after editing the file -- you need to restart networking -- sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:07] <AzMoo> Wilbert, actually, it looks like your repo line is wrong.
[08:07] <Wilbert> ok, thnaks
[08:07] <Wilbert> i did all what tha page indicate me,
[08:07] <Wilbert> so i am still looking for libdvdcss and win32codecs
[08:07] <AzMoo> Wilbert, it should be: deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl edgy-seveas all
[08:09] <Phuzion> umm, unop, it failed to restart networking
[08:09] <threeseas> is there a way to get a list of the most recent packages installed?
[08:09] <Phuzion> grep: /etc/network/options: No such file or directory (3x)
[08:12] <imbecile> ok you guys.. i just installed asterisk where can i find it? its not in applications/internet
[08:12] <Phuzion> man, I'm tired, I'll fix this tomorrow
[08:12] <Phuzion> thanks for the help
[08:12] <Phuzion> /etc/asterisk maybe?
[08:13] <imbecile> i dont mean in command line i meant in my applications menu
[08:13] <AzMoo> imbecile, right-click on your ubuntu menu, select edit menus and add it in.
[08:13] <imbecile> AzMoo, thanks :)
[08:14] <Meshyf> I tried to change my theme as well as cursors and after restarting ubuntu the load back (after the login screen) the splash screen just hangs there never loading anything. Any ideas on what I could do?
[08:16] <Wilbert> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nlhttp://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:16] <Wilbert> Hello AzMoo,
[08:16] <Wilbert> look this is what I did
[08:16] <Wilbert> 1. i open the /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:17] <AzMoo> Wilbert, can you browse to the file you need in a web browser?
[08:17] <mhiku> how can i get out a variable in the environment? i set something there, and i want to delete it
[08:17] <Wilbert> 2. I added the lines from Seveas:
[08:17] <Wilbert> deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl edgy-seveas all
[08:17] <Wilbert> deb-src http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl edgy-seveas all
[08:18] <Wilbert> then i saved the changes at sources list
[08:18] <AzMoo> Wilbert, can you browse to the file you need in a web browser?
[08:18] <Wilbert> after that i wrote in a terminal the gpg key provided at the page
[08:19] <Wilbert> then i wrote sudo apt-get update
[08:19] <chavo> mhiku, unset $VARIABLE
[08:19] <KanRiNiN> Has anyone else had a lot of trouble installing mythtv in edgy?  I can't seem to do it and I'm not familiar with mysql but I followed the guide and get syntax errors
[08:22] <unop> Phuzion,  i'm back--- is that the error you get trying to restart networking?
[08:23] <laberrabarber> hi
[08:23] <unop> !hi
[08:23] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:23] <laberrabarber> simple question...
[08:23] <imbecile> whats the terminal command to run asterisk? is it "asterisk"?
[08:23] <rly> !hello
[08:23] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[08:23] <Wilbert> sorry AzMoo
[08:23] <Wilbert> i Just saw your message
[08:24] <unop> imbecile,  probably -- try it out
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> imbecile: most likely
[08:24] <Meshyf> Just so everyone knows. I love you Ubuntu community. <3
[08:24] <Wilbert> i tried to browse to the file but it says it is forbidden
[08:24] <imbecile> dang i had no luck with it :(
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> imbecile: One good way to find out commands is to do 'dpgk -L <packagename> | grep bin'
[08:24] <AzMoo> Wilbert, then it really is forbidden. You'll need to contact seveas to get that fixed.
[08:24] <imbecile> tonyyarusso,  thanks
[08:24] <unop> Meshyf,  we ubuntYOU :)
[08:24] <laberrabarber> got the LIVE Cd edubuntu, check t out and be impressed, but ss t possible to save personal konfguraton?
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> Wilbert: You trying to download the Larts database?
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> Wilbert: Oh, no - the repo.  Use a mirror.  :)
[08:26] <laberrabarber> hello?!?!
[08:27] <clearzen> I am trying to create a database using phpmyadmin but it keeps saying  Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost'  I have set a root pass already. What am I doing wrong??
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> !persistence | laberrabarber
[08:27] <ubotu> laberrabarber: To have some persistent storage when using a Live CD, follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence
[08:27] <AzMoo> clearzen, can you log in to phpmyadmin?
[08:27] <laberrabarber> thx
[08:27] <clearzen> no
[08:28] <AzMoo> clearzen, can you log in from the terminal mysql client?
[08:28] <unop> clearzen,  can you log into mysql from the command line?
[08:28] <clearzen> AzMoo: also a no go. But I am trying over ssh
[08:28] <clearzen> AzMoo: will that make a difference?
[08:28] <AzMoo> clearzen, no. How did you set the root password?
[08:29] <iter> mysql -u root password "yournewpassword"
[08:29] <iter> from shell prompt
[08:29] <clearzen> like this mysql -u root
[08:29] <clearzen> mysql> USE mysql;
[08:29] <clearzen> mysql> UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('new-password') WHERE user='root';
[08:29] <clearzen> mysql> FLUSH PRIVILEGES;
[08:29] <clearzen> sorry
[08:29] <laberrabarber> thats great...some german ***** told me that it is not!!! possible to save pers.conf.....thx!
[08:29] <clearzen> should've used pastebin
[08:29] <AzMoo> clearzen, yeah, you shouldn't do it like that.
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> laberrabarber: it wasn't until relatively recentlyish
[08:29] <pppoe_dude> !language | laberrabarber
[08:29] <ubotu> laberrabarber: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:30] <AzMoo> clearzen, you should use mysqladmin. > mysqladmin -u root password yournewpassword
[08:30] <laberrabarber> sorry
[08:31] <iter> whoops yep
[08:31] <Irc`Helper> !help meeeeeeeeee
[08:31] <clearzen> AzMoo:  Can I save my current install?
[08:31] <iter> got the binary wrong there
[08:31] <iter> clearzen: backup /var/lib/mysql
[08:31] <AzMoo> clearzen, have you got any data there?
[08:32] <clearzen>  AzMoo: not yet so it doesn't matter really
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> !helpme | Irc`Helper
[08:32] <ubotu> Irc`Helper: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:32] <clearzen> AzMoo: I just wanted to know for future referance
[08:32] <imbecile> tonyyarusso, dpgk -L asterisk | grep bin ?
[08:32] <iter> clearzen: use mysqldump to make backups
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> imbecile: if the package is asterisk, which I think is right
[08:33] <iter> you can also backup that directory but dumping tables is better
[08:33] <tanlaan> hey everyone
[08:33] <Meshyf> !smb
[08:33] <clearzen> iter: thanks for the tip
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <tanlaan> has anyone heard of linspire?
[08:33] <iter> #linspire?
[08:33] <clearzen> iter: I haven't done anything with mysql before
[08:33] <imbecile> its said "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `|' "
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> tanlaan: yes, but haven't used.  #linspire does exist for more :)
[08:33] <AzMoo> clearzen, I'm not 100% sure how ubuntu's done it. If I'd compiled it myself I would delete the data directory and run mysql_install_db, but I don't know if that'll work here.
[08:34] <Irc`Helper> fuck you
[08:34] <tanlaan> tonyyarusso: well i was gonna make fun of it, i dont think it would go over that well :D
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> tanlaan: Not in the support channel anyway :)
[08:34] <clearzen> AzMoo: It's actually on a debian server but I thought someone could help me in this channel
[08:34] <iter> clearzen: if you have no data in the db just apt-get remove mysql-server && apt-get install mysql-server && dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server
[08:34] <imbecile> cant say i didnt see that coming ;P
[08:34] <tanlaan> tonyyarusso: okk fine :D
[08:34] <Meshyf> Can ubuntu connect to a windows shared network? I.e. grabbing files off my XP machine using my Ubuntu Laptop
[08:35] <anthonyj_> Hello everyone,I was just following the instructions to disable ipv6 since I was experincing slow internet,  I ran across this issue where the bad_list file under /etc/modprobe.d did not exist until I created it.  I'm running Edgy amd64.  Is this normal, or is something missing?
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> imbecile: a sec...
[08:35] <iter> Meshyf: yes, no proble
[08:35] <iter> Meshyf: places menu, connect to server
[08:35] <iter> (iirc)
[08:35] <clearzen> iter: thanks again I'll do that and set up the root password the right way this time
[08:36] <AzMoo> clearzen, basically, don't work on the mysql database manually
[08:36] <Meshyf> iter: Thanks. I just managed to ocnnect to a diffrent computer, it must be something with this PC :P
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> imbecile: that should work....  dpkg -L asterisk | grep bin should take the output of dpkg -L asterisk, pipe it to grep, which will return any results with bin in the path
[08:36] <AzMoo> clearzen, everything you need can be done with specialized programs and queries.
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> !samba | Meshyf
[08:36] <ubotu> Meshyf: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:36] <Meshyf> THanks Tony
[08:36] <clearzen> AzMoo: So you want to use phpmyadmin and such to create users and databases then
[08:37] <AzMoo> clearzen, yep. Set your root password using mysqladmin and use phpmyadmin for the rest, if you don't want to learn the queries.
[08:38] <anon__> is there any way to force a debian package to install, ignoring dependencies?
[08:38] <imbecile> tonyyarusso,  maybe i didnt install it correctly :(
[08:39] <imbecile> tonyyarusso,  ahhh you typoed the first time
[08:39] <pppoe_dude> anon__, yes
[08:39] <iter> anon__: yes, man dpkg
[08:39] <anon__> a package I have isn't reading libpango1.0-0 correctly
[08:39] <iter> basically you use -force-something
[08:39] <tonyyarusso> imbecile: ohp, whoops
[08:39] <pppoe_dude> anon__, dpkg --force-all -i <package>
[08:39] <pppoe_dude> anon__, you need to specify the path for the package tho
[08:40] <iter> I think it's dpkg -force-depends -i libpango1.0-0
[08:40] <iter> ooh there's an --ignore-depends too
[08:41] <adamonline45> !gtk
[08:41] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[08:41] <imbecile> imbecile@DEXTER:~$ dpkg -L asterisk | grep bin imbecile@DEXTER:~$
[08:41] <adamonline45> !GIMP
[08:41] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[08:41] <imbecile> still no luck for me :(
[08:41] <ldy>  I have a question about block No. and file name. If I have a broken disk and I get the block No. by badblocks commands. How can I know which file are using this block?
[08:41] <Steil> is there anyway to get ntfs support on the sparc release?
[08:41] <threeseas> oh well.... the blank screen problem is a death blow to new users - isn't there a way to just reinstall without losing ones files?
[08:42] <adamonline45> Gimp, the graphics program, forms gnome?
[08:42] <pppoe_dude> adamonline45, no
[08:43] <AzMoo> adamonline45, gtk forms gnome
[08:43] <pppoe_dude> AzMoo, no
[08:43] <Flannel> Steil: you already have it, don't you?
[08:43] <laberrabarber> hhh....http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6331959.stm
[08:43] <imbecile> is linux+ test a good way to learn linux?
[08:43] <pppoe_dude> AzMoo, gtk is the application widgets part of gnome
[08:43] <matey> I'm looking for a way to sort of secure standard NFS. Is there any way to find, say with nmap, which folders you can mount with NFS on my machine?
[08:43] <pppoe_dude> AzMoo, :)
[08:43] <Steil> Flannel, when i try to mount a ntfs partition it says that ntfs is an unknown fs
[08:44] <clearzen> AzMoo: It is still telling me Access denied for user 'root' @ 'local host' could I use mysql -u root -p password to gain access?
[08:44] <adamonline45> AzMoo: Okay, that makes sense, thanks.  can I integrate someting made on GTK with a bash script?
[08:44] <AzMoo> clearzen, did you set the password using mysqladmin ?
[08:44] <iter> clearzen: is mysql running ?
[08:45] <AzMoo> iter, yes, it is, otherwise it would return a can't connect to socket error.
[08:45] <clearzen> iter: yes it is...I started it. I tried to set the pass with mysqladmin but it denied me access.
[08:45] <yellowdart> clearzen, did you type 'localhost' or 'local host'
[08:45] <Flannel> Steil: what command are you using?
[08:45] <clearzen> yellowdart: good question
[08:45] <KenSentMe> clearzen: default the root user has no password in mysql
[08:45] <Steil> mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 --o umask=000
[08:45] <Steil> er wait
[08:45] <AzMoo> clearzen, it probably didn't remove the data directories when you uninstalled it.
[08:45] <Steil> no -o
[08:46] <Steil> i'm diong it optionless
[08:46] <clearzen> I should use --purge I guess
[08:46] <Flannel> Steil: try giving it a -t ntfs
[08:46] <Steil> well it told me that ntfs wasn't a known filesystem type or something
[08:47] <Flannel> Steil: and actually, ntfs uses dmask and fmask
[08:47] <Flannel> Steil: er... no it doesn't.  b
[08:50] <Steil> anyways yeah it keeps throwing me "mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs'"
[08:50] <Flannel> Steil: What version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:50] <Steil> 6.04
[08:50] <mistform> ay
[08:50] <Steil> er 6.06 i guess it'd be
[08:50] <unop> !ntfs-3g | Steil
[08:50] <ubotu> Steil: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:51] <Steil> unop, isn't that only for 32bit i386?
[08:52] <Flannel> Steil: I guess yeah, for some reason your kernel doesn't have ntfs support built in, you'll have to look towards the other stuff, find an open source one (not a wrapper of XP libraries)
[08:52] <unop> Steil,  ohh errm, to be honest, i dont really know
[08:52] <OMERSIAR> i want to install my on board graphic card that is via unichromo
[08:52] <OMERSIAR> how can i install
[08:52] <Steil> heh
[08:53] <KenSentMe> OMERSIAR: doesn't it work out of the box? You have no desktop?
[08:53] <mistform> herro
[08:53] <OMERSIAR> i want 3d support
[08:53] <unop> Steil,  yep, it looks like the ntfs support is exclusive to 32 bit systems for the moment
[08:53] <mistform> I'm using dapper, and my wireless card keeps disabling itself whenever I try to connect to my network with wifi-radar
[08:53] <Steil> ahh
[08:54] <Steil> i need something for sparc
[08:54] <imbecile> is linux+ test a good way to learn linux?
[08:54] <gmcinnes_> what's the best way to automate an ubuntu install.  I want to install very few packages.
[08:55] <unop> Steil,  heh, now you're asking for more than is allowed :) have a look here http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html#endian64
[08:55] <OMERSIAR> i found this http://www.openchrome.org/
[08:55] <OMERSIAR> but i can not install the correct one
[08:55] <mistform> imbecile, linux+ is very basic, but you would most definately learn alot from it
[08:55] <OMERSIAR> please help me
[08:55] <mistform> the majority of linux users learn from experience using and toruble shooting their linux boxes
[08:56] <unop> imbecile,  yes and no .. linux+ is focused on installing and administering for the use in business networks -- but linux on the otherhand doesnt cover a niche, it's just not confined that way
[08:56] <KenSentMe> OMERSIAR: maybe you could search the forums at http://ubuntuforums.org. I see there are some people that have the same card
[08:57] <OMERSIAR> okey i will try
[08:57] <Steil> Anyone in here manage to get feisty running on a Blade 100/150?
[08:57] <unop> imbecile,  there are some ubuntu certifications that probably hold more credibility than the linux+, you probably also learn more (about ubuntu)
[08:58] <iter> personally I wouldn't be too happy hiring someone who says they have an "ubuntu cert"
[08:58] <iter> don't get me wrong, I love ubuntu and debian though
[08:59] <unop> iter,  personally i dont think a cert should have any bearing on whether a person gets a job -- I was answering the question of "what would be worthwhile attempting to _learn_ about linux"
[09:00] <iter> no cert is worthwhile if you just want to learn
[09:00] <iter> they cost $
[09:00] <ardchoille> I'd rather hire someone who can do the job rather than someone who has a "cert". I've seen a few RHCE's that can't even set up squid.
[09:00] <iter> just get a book if you don't want to teach yourself
[09:00] <AzMoo> ardchoille, how do you know if they can do the job?
[09:01] <iter> but if you aren't interested in learning about it boy is it going to be a tough row to hoe
[09:01] <mistform> never heard that one, before, iter
[09:01] <mistform> "tough row to hoe"
[09:01] <unop> ardchoille,  well, i've seen veterans with 20+ years experience behind them and get stuck with something as simple as setting up samba .. but thats the world of open-source, no one can be profecient in absolutely anything and everything
[09:01] <iter> haha "simple as setting up samba"
[09:01] <mistform> yes, very true
[09:02] <mhiku> LD_LIBRARY_PATH, where is it?
[09:02] <mistform> it really depends on what you have personally experienced
[09:02] <iter> samba is a well known biyatch
[09:02] <AzMoo> mhiku, not set by default.
[09:02] <AzMoo> mhiku, if you want to set it put it in /etc/environment
[09:02] <iter> mhiku: set it (in bash) with export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=blah
[09:02] <unop> !language | iter .. kids do walk in the room
[09:02] <ubotu> iter .. kids do walk in the room: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:03] <iter> well, that's why I used the too short spelling
[09:03] <iter> to keep it family friendly ;)
[09:03] <imbecile> ubuntu
[09:03] <imbecile> oops
[09:03] <unop> iter,  come on, thats not addressing the real issue :)
[09:04] <iter> what, that samba is tehsuck
[09:04] <iter> a necessary evil I suppose
[09:04] <imbecile> unop, do you know the names of any ubuntu certs?
[09:05] <unop> imbecile,  have a read here http://lwn.net/Articles/178373/
[09:05] <imbecile> thanks
[09:05] <unop> imbecile,  or http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntucert
 got a question
[09:05] <_rawr> * lotek has quit (Remote closed the connection)
 I have windows on one HDD & kubuntu on the other HDD & both in the same comp, took the kubuntu HDD out, & got a grub boot error, WHY?
 should it have copied any files to the windows
 HDD
 while I was installing kubuntu on the other?
[09:06] <_rawr> anwer plz
[09:06] <_rawr> answer*
[09:06] <KenSentMe> imbecile: i know there are some poeple gathered in Geneva right now to make the tests etc.
[09:06] <iter> nice maybe I can get work to pay for a trip to joburg
[09:06] <iter> _rawr: boot to recovery mode w/windows cd and run fixmbr
[09:06] <_rawr> what does that do?
[09:07] <iter> fixes the mbr
[09:07] <unop> _rawr,  errm, how do you expect grub to behave if you remove the disk that contains the OS? :)
[09:07] <iter> which was overwritten by grub
[09:07] <_rawr> I hear ya.
[09:07] <_rawr> & thank you iter
[09:07] <iter> sho
[09:08] <b0c1> hi
[09:08] <AzMoo> hi b0c1
[09:08] <_rawr> thanks again
[09:08] <_rawr> ill be back if I have trouble. =(
[09:08] <_rawr> =)*
[09:08] <_rawr> night
[09:08] <iter> 99
[09:08] <b0c1> anybody can install libapache2-mod-mono in edgy?
[09:09] <KenSentMe> b0c1: why can't you? Do you get an error?
[09:10] <b0c1> Yepp
[09:10] <KenSentMe> b0c1: maybe it's a good idea to share that error
[09:10] <adamonline45> !perl
[09:10] <b0c1> KenSentMe: copy here or nopaste?
[09:10] <ubotu> perl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is important. Version 5.8.8-6 (edgy), package size 3287 kB, installed size 11436 kB
[09:11] <adamonline45> !python
[09:11] <mistform> what is the bash command for enabling/disabling network devices?
[09:11] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 208 kB
[09:11] <unop> mistform,  ifup and ifdown or ifupdown
[09:11] <iter> mistform: ifconfig ethX down
[09:11] <b0c1> KenSentMe: http://rafb.net/p/YCsJ7L61.html
[09:11] <KenSentMe> b0c1: use the pastebin at paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:11] <b0c1> :)
[09:11] <meshyf> !.rar
[09:11] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:12] <meshyf> !info unrar-free
[09:12] <mistform> down disables?
[09:12] <meshyf> !unrar-free
[09:12] <mistform> or enables?
[09:12] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[09:12] <unop> mistform, yes, quite naturally :)
[09:12] <mistform> ........
[09:12] <unop> mistform,  it takes a link "down"
[09:12] <b0c1> mistform: down is shutdown the device :D
[09:12] <mistform> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device
[09:13] <KenSentMe> b0c1: have you got mono-apache-server(2) installed?
[09:13] <b0c1> yepp
[09:13] <unop> mistform, you need to sudo that command -- it requires superuser privs
[09:13] <mistform> I did
[09:13] <unop> mistform,  did you specify a device to bring down? sudo ifdown eth0
[09:13] <b0c1> ii  mono-apache-server2               <IP_ADDRESS>-2                        backend for mod_mono2 Apache module
[09:13] <b0c1> KenSentMe: this is the problem ;)
[09:14] <b0c1> I think it's can't decide which installed, so I install one...
[09:14] <b0c1> but nothing happened... it's difficult solve this?
[09:15] <KenSentMe> b0c1: i wouldn't know. Maybe you should ask in general in this channel (so not only ask me), and someone can help you. I don't know how to solve this
[09:16] <_3uG_> hi.. quick question: a friend is trying to install ubuntu on a system where the first hd port is sata instead of ide. the installer claimed to have written to the mbr, but he is unable to get into his installation. what should he do? i suggested using a livecd to run grub-install to fix it.
[09:16] <b0c1> KenSentMe: can you tell me another package which can't decide between two or more package?
[09:16] <mistform> unop, pastebin is being slow right now
[09:16] <_3uG_> he's also running a dualboot system and the install seems to have corrupted his xp installation
[09:16] <unop> mistform,  use http://pastebin.ca
[09:16] <iter> _3uG_: does he get an error?
[09:16] <mistform> unop, http://pastebin.com/876497
[09:16] <b0c1> I think this is the problem: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4-1), apache2 (>= 2.0.50), mono-jit (>= 1.0.1), mono-apache-server (>= 1.1.13) | mono-apache-server2 (>= 1.1.13), mono-apache-server (<< 1.1.14) | mono-apache-server2 (<< 1.1.14)
[09:16] <KenSentMe> b0c1: i wouldn't know any
[09:17] <b0c1> :|
[09:17] <_3uG_> iter, yes.. something to the extent of "invalid partition" (sorry to not have specifics... i'm many miles away)
[09:17] <b0c1> maybe it's required less than 1.1.14 version of mono-apache-server...
[09:17] <llama32> automount died in the ass, any suggestions? i screwed up my group/user stuff a while ago [ie i had to add myself to some groups again] , so im guessing it's due to this
[09:17] <KenSentMe> b0c1: just ask again in this channel, but then with a complete layout of your problem
[09:18] <mistform> unop, http://pastebin.ca/342395 << that's the whole message it gave me
[09:18] <mhiku> LD_LIBRARY_PATH, where to point it?
[09:18] <meshyf> !unrar-free
[09:18] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[09:18] <b0c1> KenSentMe: I reported this bug, and it's confirmed, so I wait....
[09:18] <iter> _3uG_: well, he can at least boot from a dos disk and run fdisk /mbr or boot from windows cd into recovery mode and run fixmbr to restore windows
[09:18] <iter> _3uG_: but I would bet a couple changes to grub would sort it right out
[09:19] <b0c1> KenSentMe: I only asked , maybe somebody can another way to solve this...
[09:19] <b0c1> KenSentMe: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mod-mono/+bug/82934
[09:19] <b0c1> ;)
[09:19] <iter> _3uG_: /boot/grub/menu.lst is the file
[09:20] <KenSentMe> b0c1: then you have to wait indeed. Have you searched the forums at http://ubuntuforums.org?
[09:20] <iter> _3uG_: I'm just guessing but probably just need to change (hd0,0) to something like (hd1,0)
[09:20] <_3uG_> iter, he tried to windows cd recovery mode to replace the files that were supposedly corrupted, but it just made his computer hang. i don't know if he's tried the fdisk /mbr trick yet (i told him to try that). 10 to 1 it is just somethign that needs a quick grub-install (and possible menu.lst manipulation). i think that the ubuntu installer may not like systems with sata first
[09:20] <unop> mistform,  errm, is eth1 the interface you want bringing up? are you sure?
[09:20] <b0c1> KenSentMe: nope... thnx the idea...
[09:20] <mistform> unop, I have eth1 and eth0.  eth1 is my wireless adapter and eth0 what i'm wired to right now
[09:21] <_3uG_> iter, when i talk to him tomorrow, i'll see if he can get in to change it to (hd0,1) (b/c it's the first hd but the second partition on it)
[09:21] <b0c1> ehhehhh
[09:21] <b0c1> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=325576&highlight=libapache2-mod-mono
[09:21] <_3uG_> iter, oh.. by the way: does it does it matter that xp is first and /boot is well after the 8gb mark?
[09:21] <mhiku> LD_LIBRARY_PATH, where to point it?
[09:21] <unop> mistform, errm, you might need to use iwconfig to bring up a wireless link instead .. i'm not too sure
[09:21] <tanlaan> !ipod
[09:21] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[09:21] <iter> _3uG_: not to my knowledge
[09:22] <_3uG_> iter, i didn't think so.. as long as you write grub to the mbr. but who knows, i've been linux-only for well over a year. maybe two
[09:23] <iter> right if grub is in the mbr you can pretty much boot from wherever
[09:23] <iter> afaik
[09:23] <iter> he could also try hitting e to edit when he sees the grub booting prompt
[09:24] <iter> try changing that (hd0,0) to (hd0,1) and then hitting b to boot
[09:24] <iter> sucks about the corrupt files though, does windows start to boot and then barf?
[09:25] <_3uG_> iter, yeah, it gets to the splash screen and then complains
[09:25] <_3uG_> iter, i wish that i could somehow do remote control, but i don't know how possible that would be with the ubuntu live cd
[09:25] <iter> well if he can get into the livecd you can ssh in probably
[09:26] <iter> depending on his router/network etc
[09:26] <iter> acutally, crud, does the livecd have openssh-server even
[09:26] <_3uG_> iter, we've setup his router to work.. maybe i'll have him configure ssh so that i can get it.. if it does have openssh-server
[09:26] <iter> I seem to remember it not and being a huge PITA because of that
[09:27] <mhiku> ive installed manually checking for ogg >= 1.0... checking for Ogg... no, but ive installed it compiling libtheora
[09:27] <_3uG_> iter, but if it has vino, i can vnc in
[09:27] <iter> yep
[09:27] <_3uG_> iter, which i'm *pretty sure* is installed by default in gnome.. i think.
[09:27] <_3uG_> iter, thanks for your help. it gives me some ideas to try...
[09:27] <macd> when I use windows to browse to a samba shared dir on ubuntu it asks for a user/pass this is not my linux user/pass what would I login with?
[09:28] <_3uG_> iter, once he can get ubuntu up and running, xp should be simple to fix
[09:28] <iter> np
[09:28] <iter> yep
[09:28] <iter> macd: can you do Guest w/no password?
[09:29] <macd> no
[09:29] <_3uG_> have fun, everyone
[09:29] <macd> this is windows ---> ubuntu (samba) shares
[09:29] <_rawr> lul
[09:29] <iter> macd: ah you'll need to set it up w/smbpasswd
[09:30] <macd> k
[09:30] <mneptok> macd: it wants your Ubuntu login info.
[09:30] <macd> mneptok, no it doesnt ;)
[09:30] <mneptok> macd: you need to set a Samba password on the Ubuntu machine with smbpasswd
[09:30] <mneptok> macd: yes, it does.
[09:31] <macd> well ubuntu login/pass dont work, using smbpasswd to change results in the following error:
[09:31] <macd> Could not connect to machine <IP_ADDRESS>: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[09:31] <iter> ah the dreaded NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[09:31] <LoHung> use swat to create samba user/pass
[09:31] <iter> there you go
[09:32] <mneptok> sudo ugh
[09:32] <mneptok> ;)
[09:32] <macd> swat is gui?
[09:32] <mneptok> please don't use SWAT
[09:32] <mneptok> it's pretty deprecated.
[09:32] <iter> it has a lot to go wrong w/it
[09:32] <iter> is there a better tool though ?
[09:32] <SWAT> macd, Samba Web Administration Tool is pure evil, don't use it
[09:33] <mneptok> and if you want to use Samba, the best idea is to (*gasp*) learn to use Samba.
[09:33] <iter> I just edit smb.conf
[09:33] <iter> but that's pretty BS, frankly
[09:33] <LoHung> there is nothing wrong with swat
[09:33] <mneptok> why?
[09:33] <macd> I want to use individual user mapping as later it will join an domain
[09:33] <LoHung> esp. for new users its fine
[09:33] <AzMoo> LoHung, yes there is. It's horrible.
[09:33] <macd> and finction as a NFS--> samba head.
[09:33] <LoHung> i disagree
[09:33] <macd> Im not a new user.
[09:33] <macd> I just dont do samba.
[09:34] <mneptok> LoHung: "new users" shouldn't be running around networks playing sysadmin.
[09:34] <LoHung> on their home network they can
[09:35] <iter> macd: check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280702
[09:35] <mneptok> LoHung: GUIs like SWAT are basically like a simple interface to a 747's controls. and dude, i don't want to fly on any plane with a pilot taht doesn't know what they're doing. ;)
[09:35] <thill2708> what program should I use to extract img files?
[09:35] <iter> good info on joining a domain w/ubuntu
[09:35] <tim167> how can I send a mail via the commandline ?
[09:35] <macd> I know howto to make linux join a domain.
[09:35] <iter> tim167: mailx
[09:35] <macd> I have several working in a large forrest right now.
[09:35] <tim167> iter thanx :)
[09:36] <LoHung> mneptok, i agree with that statement
[09:36] <tim167> iter: i get command not found, i have to install mailx , right ?
[09:36] <iter> tim167: yes apt-get install mailx
[09:36] <cmt^^> How do I download pine? sudo apt-get install pine doesn't find any packages
[09:36] <JHSands> do I need the " additional Windows codecs" in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats to play .wmv and .avi files?
[09:37] <iter> wow I can't believe no pine
[09:37] <thill2708> anyone? anyone know how to extract img files?
[09:37] <mneptok> cmt^^: use Mutt. it's there by default.
[09:37] <Tomcat_> JHSands: Only if they contain a special codec.
[09:38] <macd> smbpasswd -a myuserhere solved the problem
[09:38] <macd> man pages ftw.
[09:38] <ftopz> what's the system requirements to install xgl desktop?
[09:38] <Tomcat_> JHSands: Some AVI files will work, and maybe also some WMVs.
[09:38] <pavs> get vlc player to play any formats
[09:38] <tim167> iter: what's this postfix configuration? i have to do it ?
[09:38] <iter> thill2708: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=276743
[09:38] <Tomcat_> JHSands: But for most files, yes. Or get vlc, as pavs says.
[09:38] <iter> tim167: choose internet host
[09:38] <Dh3Y0> !libsndfile
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libsndfile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <ftopz> !beryl
[09:39] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:39] <tanlaan> hey everyone, this was pretty funny but i just plugged in my ipod and opened up the music player and played a song off of my ipod *played more than one* and it was sped up at like 2x speed, so everything was high pitched lol. well i opened up gaim to get on here, and it decided it was gonna play at normal speed again. So i guess its fixed but i just thought it was interesting :P
[09:39] <thill2708> iter : thanks but I would rather just extact files from them, instead of the whole mounting business
[09:39] <tim167> iter: 'internet site' or 'internet with smart host' ?
[09:39] <iter> internt site
[09:40] <JHSands> pavs: where do I get such... the vlc player
[09:40] <Tomcat_> JHSands: sudo apt-get install vlc
[09:40] <JHSands> thanks :)
[09:41] <pavs> use synaptic to look for vlc player
[09:41] <PORDO> anyone here have a sip phone?
[09:42] <pavs> apt-get install vlc
[09:42] <pavs> oops
[09:42] <pavs> late
[09:42] <dougb> i have my home directory installed on another partition, and after reformatting, the permissions are still set for my old linux setup to own the folder and the contents.  is there a command to run to change the permissions of all of the folders and files to become mine?
[09:42] <yommb> enjoys himself messing with Metisse :)
[09:43] <bXi> dougb: chmod and chown
[09:43] <iter> chown -R user /home/user
[09:43] <unop> or better - chown -Rv $USER /home/$USER
[09:43] <dougb> bXi: i tried that, it is what gave me permissions to own the /home/doug folder, but the files all still have little locks over them saying that i'm not the owner
[09:44] <chavo> might want to check the gid too
[09:44] <iter> unop snazzy :)
[09:44] <dougb> unop: that would give me permission to all of the contents?
[09:44] <unop> chavo,  good point
[09:44] <brosio> how can i identify to the serveer ?
[09:44] <JHSands> I would like to thank all of you for making such an easy linux distro to use. Plug in your usb key and it works without any problems... much easier than redhat 6 lol and windows networking is also a breeze. Thank you!
[09:44] <unop> or better - chown -Rv $USER.$USER /home/$USER
[09:44] <chavo> some distros start at 500
[09:44] <chavo> ubuntu starts at 1000
[09:44] <unop> dougb,  you probably need to sudo that command tho
[09:45] <unop> dougb,  yea, it should give you ownership of your homedir
[09:45] <brosio> how can i identify to the freenode serveer ?
[09:45] <dougb> i think it's working
[09:45] <dougb> thanks unop!
[09:45] <Juhaz> brosio, /msg nickserv help
[09:46] <brosioz> thx
[09:47] <tanlaan> my computer has finally crapped out *the one i share with my brothers and sister*. It had windows xp, and that is all they are used to. Do you think I might be able to switch over to ubuntu/kubuntu without confusing them TOO much, haha. Basically I want to know if anyone else has had a family computer that they switched to ubuntu/kubuntu and how their family reacted
[09:47] <medfly> how do i check if i have a package installed?
[09:47] <tim167> so, iter, how do i specifie my mail adress / password / pop3 / smtp for mailx ?
[09:47] <AzMoo> tanlaan, what do they do with it?
[09:48] <macd> tanlaan, I suppose that depends on what they use it for.
[09:48] <iter> tanlaan: they will freak out due to lack of smiley toolbars
[09:48] <macd> offt gaim has em ;P
[09:48] <iter> tim167: mailx I just use to send mail
[09:48] <valehru> Hey guys, I need an opinion for an ftp client, sick of gftp, I find it very buggy.  Any good alternatives out there besides the console?
[09:48] <macd> but there is no globalsearch bar! or zango!
[09:48] <iter> valehru: lftp ftw
[09:49] <iter> valehru: it's console though
[09:49] <__sha__> medfly: launch synaptic, search for your software, the icons tell you clearly if some software is installed or not
[09:49] <AzMoo> valehru, nautilus?
[09:49] <__sha__> valehru: konqueror is great
[09:49] <unop> tanlaan,  well, as long as your family was open to exploring and were a little patient at first .. the transition should be quite smooth, a lot of the interface and applications are made to bear a resemlance .. you might be stuck with a few things like games and hardware tho
[09:49] <JHSands> so many games for KDE in the synaptics package manager
[09:49] <patbam> hi folks
[09:49] <tim167> iter so: mailx somefile.txt<EMAIL_ADDRESS>  ?? something like that ?  <  iter
[09:49] <valehru> I need it to support fxp though...not sure if nautilus or konqueror do either of those
[09:49] <tanlaan>  well, mostly for music and internet. My brother has an ipod and so do i. Umm, dvd playablility, burning cds audio, files, and iso's.
[09:50] <__sha__> valehru: no idea what is fxp, but konqueror has broad support of plenty of protocols
[09:50] <macd> tanlaan, most people do all those things, out of the box.
[09:50] <tanlaan> I am the only person who really plays games on it *the video was messed up before the computer died*
[09:50] <burepe> Anyone know anything about azureus updates not taking? Says it can't write to the directory? Everything works it is just that the updates keep displaying because I can't finish them
[09:50] <iter> tim167: I dunno that you can attach files w/mailx either
[09:50] <thill2708> tanlaan - you might want to worry about the ipod thing a little bit. I know that the ipod libraries for linux don't connect to certain ipods.
[09:51] <iter> tim167: I just use it for quick and dirty fire off an email type mails
[09:51] <iter> tim167: if you want a full featured mail client for the console, try mutt
[09:51] <tanlaan> thill2708: hmm, i mean i have my ipod connected right now. i just havent tried syncing.
[09:51] <valehru> tanlaan, I find banshee and gtkpod work perfectly for the ipod...
[09:51] <iter> tanlaan: I heard good things about amarok
[09:51] <patbam> tanlaan: i've not really figured ouyt how to write to my ipod, it seems to read out of the box
[09:52] <tanlaan> patbam: yea i know
[09:52] <burepe> patbam what are you connecting the ipod with?
[09:52] <iter> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod
[09:52] <patbam> amarok struck me as kind of complex. all i want out of an ipod app is something that looks like a folder with a "save" button :)
[09:52] <burepe> patbam what program
[09:53] <tanlaan> hmm, i guess ill actually have to consult with them. Although if I do get the computer to work again, im gonna keep an install of ubuntu on the hard drive *save myself around 20 gigs for it :D*
[09:53] <burepe> patbam try floola. It runs from inside the ipod
[09:53] <patbam> burepe: rhythmbox saw my ipod
[09:53] <patbam> burepe: thanks, i will check it out
[09:53] <tim167> iter: no i want also it for quickly sending some small text mails, its just strange that i didnt specify anything, my address and such...
[09:53] <tanlaan> hmm well its like 1 am and i have school tomorrow
[09:53] <burepe> patbam  there are windows and mac versions too so you can listen to your ipod on anycomputer
[09:54] <tanlaan> so i should be getting off, ill probly wander back here sometime in the near future :D
[09:54] <tanlaan> bye
[09:54] <iter> tim167: the "from" address will be the account and account name that you're sending from
[09:54] <patbam> burepe: is it compatible with rockbox? i've been thinking about trying that.
[09:54] <tim167> iter, typing mailx brings me into some interactive mode ? i have an &-prompt, do i type 'send' now ?
[09:55] <iter> tim167: mailx<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:55] <iter> enter subject
[09:55] <Tehlak> brb
[09:55] <iter> type letter
[09:56] <iter> finish with a period (.) on a line by itself
[09:56] <patbam> burepe: can you install floola from linux?
[09:56] <JHSands> pavs: that sudo command does not work and VLC is not  under multimedia in the synaptics package manager
[09:56] <yommb> !rockbox
[09:56] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[09:56] <yommb> JHSands : eenable all your repos
[09:57] <mohooo> Is it possible to remove the borders compleatly from aterm?
[09:57] <burepe> patbam it doesn't install. It runs from the ipod
[09:57] <mohooo> just a black backgrund witht the contens? :)
[09:58] <burepe> patbam it is like a portable itunes that allows you to add and take out music
[09:59] <burepe> patbam banshee is also good for the ipod. There is an itunes music store plug in
[09:59] <fatbrain> very annoying, my sound-card gets enumerated as audio-device #1 sometimes and #2 other times when I boot my system, and my audio output only seems to work when it's #1..... How can I solve that!?
[09:59] <yommb> fatbtain : specify the correct modules to load using modprobe & modules.conf or modprobe.conf
[10:00] <unop> fatbrain,  probably use asoundconf to set the default sound device for your session
[10:00] <patbam> burepe: hmm. i never use itunes tho :)
[10:00] <medfly> is anyone else having problems with silky on i386
[10:00] <tim167> iter: ok tried mailx<EMAIL_ADDRESS>then typed testmail, ended with dot (.) on one line, it seemed to go ok, but the mail didnt arrive, it didnt ask me 'From' either...
[10:00] <burepe> patbam:  I am just saying it works good with the ipod like itunes.
[10:00] <yommb> anyone using Metisse here ?
[10:01] <fatbrain> yommb, unop: hrm, dont see how I would go about fixing that, but I'll give google try, thanks
[10:01] <unop> tim167,  errm, make sure the mail hasnt been filtered out by a spam filter -- check the trash/bulk/spam folders
[10:01] <unop> fatbrain,  man asoundconf or asoundconf --help
[10:02] <fatbrain> unop: Yes, I got that much. I already tried set-default-card and reset-default-card with no success
[10:02] <fatbrain> unop: do I need to reset alsa somehow?
[10:02] <unop> fatbrain,  are you using the device names suggested by asoundconf list with the set-default-card ?
[10:02] <fatbrain> unop: yes.
[10:03] <tim167> unop,  no its not in my junk mail either
[10:03] <patbam> burepe: yeah, thanks. i'm trying it, it looks pretty nice
[10:04] <unop> fatbrain,  well, did the command return an error?
[10:04] <yommb> fatbrain : example : my tuner from my tv card cot recoggnized uncorrectly all the time , so I added this to the bttv mudule.conf : modprobe bttv  card=100 tuner=38  .. and now it loads the correct tuner everytime I boot !
[10:04] <unop> tim167,  check your local MTA's log file to see if the mail was delivered
[10:05] <yommb> fatbrain : so maybe u have to do something similar with your soundcard  ( may be .. it's just a possibilty :) )
[10:05] <fatbrain> yommb: yea, I had to add that crap for my tv-card as well
[10:05] <tim167> unop, where / what's my local MTA's log file ?
[10:05] <fatbrain> unop, no, no errors
[10:05] <fatbrain> unop, I'll tweak and test some more, thanks
[10:05] <unop> tim167,  what is your MTA ? sendmail, postfix. etc?
[10:06] <fatbrain> (probably messed something up when I installed pulse-audio)
[10:06] <patbam> is there any way to get my laptop & my desktop to either a) use the same 192.168.1.XXX value every time i boot them or, b) associate whatever value they get assigned with a host name, so i can book mark them in my Places menu?
[10:06] <unop> fatbrain,  if no errors were returned, success is to be assumed .. try restarting alsa
[10:06] <fatbrain> using /etc/init.d/alsa-utils ?
[10:06] <fatbrain> if so, done that already.
[10:06] <tim167> unop saw something about postfix when installing mailx, what's an MTA ?
[10:07] <fatbrain> btw, my pulse-audio works perfect, just alsa / oss / esd apps that don't know how to use it :''(
[10:07] <unop> tim167,  Mail Transfer Agent -- something like the mail service -- postfix is one example
[10:07] <unop> fatbrain,  you could also try playing around in gnome-sound-properties
[10:08] <tim167> unop: in thunderbird i have pop3 for recieving / smtp for sending
[10:08] <fatbrain> unop: will do
[10:08] <fatbrain> unop: think it's pulse-audio crap that's messing with the other crap
[10:08] <unop> tim167,  but that configuration is likely to bypass the local MTA totally and use an external mail server instead
[10:08] <yommb> fatbrain : which leads to mrore crap :)
[10:09] <fatbrain> indeed
[10:09] <yommb> lol
[10:09] <fatbrain> if only they could release feisty sooner than asap
[10:09] <fatbrain> audio-crap in ubuntu is a bunch of crap... </end-of-nag>
[10:09] <tim167> unop if i simply do mailx then i get undelivered mail messages
[10:10] <yommb> fatbrain : did u try the alpha3 ..I'm running it & it's very nice & stable I must say
[10:10] <unop> tim167, you could try sending a mail with sendmail and your smtp server you use in tbird
[10:10] <fatbrain> yommb: no, hanv't tried the alpha3
[10:10] <gunavara> guys pls help me, how can i make the nicknames in xchat-gnome visible on my right side, not down as a button :( ? ??
[10:10] <tim167> unop is senmail another program ?
[10:10] <yommb> running Feisty with beryl & Metisse & all multimedia & nvidia
[10:10] <silya> Hi all! Why swap do not 'on' if swap partition presents during installation process?
[10:10] <unop> tim167,  yea, like mailx but "better" :)
[10:10] <yommb> nnnnnnnnnnnice ...
[10:11] <unop> silya,  how do you know that swap is not "on" ?
[10:11] <fatbrain> yommb: PulseAudio?
[10:11] <silya> in console i run `top` and see it
[10:12] <yommb> !pulseaudio
[10:12] <silya> in ubuntu and kubuntu
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pulseaudio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <yommb> fat : nope , what's that ?
[10:12] <fatbrain> the new sound daemon in feisty that's suppose to render alsa / oss / esd crap obsolete
[10:12] <yommb> aah i have to check that
[10:12] <fatbrain> btw, what's Metisse?
[10:12] <unop> silya, top is unlikely to show you swap usage that way -- it's handled by the kernel almost behind the scenes
[10:12] <yommb> !metisse
[10:12] <battlesqu1d> i've messed up my /etc/group file, and now sudo doesn't work
[10:12] <ubotu> Metisse is Mandriva's composite window manager. For more information, see http://www.mandriva.com/projects/metisse
[10:13] <fatbrain> why run both beryl & metisse?
[10:13] <yommb> fat :but you can compile source 4 every distro .there's even debian packages out there
[10:13] <unop> battlesqu1d,  how did you mess it up?
[10:13] <yommb> fat : just testing that's all :)
[10:14] <yommb> fat : metisse is quite different then beryl
[10:14] <silya> unop, I have 384 Mbytes of RAM and without swapon everything works so slow :(
[10:14] <silya> during install
[10:14] <unop> silya,  well, what does the mount command tell you? is swap mounted ?
[10:15] <silya> :) of course not!
[10:15] <unop> silya,  that more RAM than i use -- and i rarely find the system using more than 2% swap
[10:15] <silya> proc: 950MHz
[10:15] <yommb> fat : but i'm not running them at the same time ( though it is possible , but buggy (what'ya expect ??? )
[10:16] <tim167> unop i cant figure out how to set the correct smtp for sendmail :/
[10:16] <unop> silya,  you sound too sure for me to be unsure -- ubuntu would have complained to you if a swap partition wasnt created and mounted
[10:16] <silya> On startup memory usage : 380 from 384
[10:17] <lmsgruppe> how can i restore this file, now that noone on the system is in sudo group?
[10:17] <lmsgruppe> /etc/groups
[10:17] <tim167> i just want to be able to send a little mail without having to open thunderbird for that
[10:17] <unop> lmsgruppe,  the ability to sudo depends on the /etc/sudoers file -- just ensure your user is listed in there
[10:18] <silya> unop, I have already installed another distro and try install (k,x)ubuntu. And it is very interesting for me why swap do not on automatically?
[10:18] <silya> bug?
[10:18] <lmsgruppe> unop, but i can't even look at that file now as sudo doesn't work and the file is owned by root
[10:19] <unop> silya,  it is "on" automatically
[10:19] <unop> silya,  i just think you dont notice it
[10:19] <yommb> silya , did u install using manual partioning ?
[10:19] <vegiVamp> lmsgruppe: if you've got no way to become root anymore, you'll need to reboot, append "init=/bin/bash" to the boot parameters
[10:19] <fatbrain> yommb: mm, I tried running wow.exe on beryl, that was fun ^^
[10:19] <yommb> what is wow.exe ?
[10:20] <unop> lmsgruppe,  or log in single user mode and edit those files
[10:20] <vegiVamp> lmsgruppe: when it booted, you'll need to "remount / -oremount,rw", and then you'll have write access to the entire filesystem
[10:20] <fatbrain> World of Warcraft, win32 executable
[10:20] <yommb> and ?
[10:20] <fatbrain> ran it through wine
[10:20] <fatbrain> got the rotating cube with my fullscreen opengl game
[10:20] <fatbrain> *joy*
[10:20] <LoHung> fatbrain, thats badass
[10:21] <LoHung> fatbrain, how does wow run in linux....nice or shitty
[10:21] <yommb> I succesfully ran Tactical Ops , Quake III & Unreal Tournament on Ubntu/Nvidia/Beryl ...
[10:21] <lmsgruppe> unop, how would i enter single user mode?
[10:21] <fatbrain> LoHung, nice
[10:21] <fatbrain> LoHung, only problem I had was that I was unable to use the key left to backslash ingame
[10:21] <LoHung> fatbrain, was it a pain to get working
[10:21] <unop> lmsgruppe,  errm, usually you have an option in the grub menu that points to "recovery", "repair" or "single user" mode
[10:21] <yommb> Lohung , install wine & click the executable :)
[10:22] <LoHung> yommb, thats insane
[10:22] <fatbrain> LoHung, it was a few versions ago (wine-wise) but now it's a piece of cake
[10:22] <yommb> yeah ; I was surprised too the first time
[10:22] <yommb> fat : I bought wow yesterday :)
[10:22] <lmsgruppe> unop, ok so all i need to do is boot that entry and i will have root access?
[10:22] <unop> lmsgruppe,  but beware that you are not presented with any graphical interfaces there -- and i'm not sure how ubuntu handles it as you need the root password to enter it -- worth a try -- if you can't, you can try repairing via a liveCD
[10:22] <LoHung> hrmm i might try that right now considering windows decided it wasnt going to boot this evening
[10:23] <yommb> mind you , Lohung not all games work
[10:23] <fatbrain> LoHung, hehe
[10:23] <yommb> under wine
[10:23] <LoHung> yommb, wow is the only game i play
[10:23] <fatbrain> not all?! only matters if that one game works :P
[10:23] <unop> lmsgruppe,  well, try it out -- i've never encountered a situation where i need to boot into single-user mode in ubuntu (yet)
[10:23] <LoHung> fatbrain, haha
[10:23] <yommb> :)
[10:24] <LoHung> did you use automatix to install wine or synaptic
[10:24] <lmsgruppe> unop, a problem is the root password is scrambled by default (i know this) so i cant log in as root
[10:24] <lmsgruppe> i think i have to reinstall
[10:24] <yommb> fat : I need my occasional mega bombastic UT2004 fragging :)
[10:24] <fatbrain> LoHung, apt-get
[10:24] <JHSands> i enabled universe and multiverse and still no VLC
[10:25] <unop> lmsgruppe,  i recall reading something about the root password being "enabled" and different in the single user/recovery mode
[10:25] <fatbrain> yommb: yeah, ut2k4 is heaps of fun also, havn't played it in a while tho
[10:25] <fatbrain> yommb: I'm waiting for ut2k7
[10:25] <fatbrain> that will be sweet.
[10:25] <yommb> JHSands : what ubuntu r u using ,
[10:25] <yommb> fat : me tooooooooo
[10:25] <fatbrain> JHSands, strange.
[10:25] <LoHung> that game is gonna be nuts
[10:25] <lmsgruppe> unop, thanks, but i just installed so i might as well reinstall :)
[10:25] <fatbrain> JHSands, did you do a apt-get update?
[10:26] <Exabyte> Hello everyone - i'm tryin to make a partition on my laptop that has 2x100gb RAID 0 configuration, it currently has windows which i need to keep and i want to make a partition for ubuntu but linux doesn't seem to recognize the RAID configuration, anyone know what i can do?
[10:26] <unop> Exabyte,  are you using the liveCD ?
[10:26] <yommb> Exabyte laptop onboard raid ?
[10:26] <fatbrain> Exabyte, try install lvm2 (<- that's me guessing)
[10:27] <fatbrain> I <3 lvm2
[10:27] <Exabyte> unop i was using the livecd
[10:27] <fatbrain> reboot, updated my alsa-driver
[10:28] <Exabyte> yommb yeah it's a laptop and it's onboard
[10:28] <unop> Exabyte,  well, i've found that using the alternate CD works best when you do something non-standard like RAID, etc
[10:28] <yommb> Exabyte : Ubuntu didn't recognize my onboard raid either
[10:28] <Exabyte> yommb it's configured with Intel Matrix Storage Manager
[10:28] <yommb> Exabyte : on both my laptop and my amd system ...
[10:29] <JHSands> yommb: 6.1 i believe
[10:29] <yommb> jhSands then is HAS to be in the repo ...
[10:29] <JHSands> fatbrain: no
[10:29] <yommb> unless you changed them
[10:29] <yommb> *deleted the defaults
[10:29] <Exabyte> unop if i boot up with the alternate cd should it detect it automatically?
[10:29] <JHSands> vlc... right
[10:30] <JHSands> well I searched and found it
[10:30] <JHSands> but it was not under multimedia...
[10:30] <yommb> Exabyty ; when u installed windows u needed to prive a driver disk ; right ?
[10:30] <yommb> Exabyte : *provide
[10:30] <Exabyte> yommb i got the computer with windows installed
[10:31] <imbecile> hey guys.. just wanted to let ou know this channel is in an oreilly book.. thought some of you may find that interesting
[10:31] <JHSands> is there a wireless card that supports wpa/wpa2 that works with linux "out of the box"
[10:32] <yommb> Exabyte : It's probably the case of Ubuntu not having the right driver .. U can look for one ( if there exists one 4 linux for your model ... )
[10:32] <JHSands> imbecile: oreilly auto parts?
[10:32] <Exabyte> yommb ok i'm kind of new to this, what kind of driver would i look for, something to do with the RAID?
[10:32] <imbecile> JHSands,  no oreilly publishing
[10:33] <silya> unop, where I can read about optimizing ubuntu speed? Why so large memory use by default without any user apps running?
[10:34] <DraxNS> hello.. fglrx anyone?
[10:35] <yommb> Exabyte ; I'm not well aware of linux hardware raid compatability , but i'm guessing you need to find out the name or your raid-controller ( check manual & bios ) & then search some ubuntu/debian forums
[10:35] <silya> And... about ubuntu-server: nude ubuntu :( without any grands :/
[10:35] <Madpilot> silya, Linux will use all the memory it can find, and it's very, very good at swapping stuff in and out of memory. Don't worry about memory usage.
[10:36] <Exabyte> yommb alright i'll try it out, how would i go about installing that driver when using the linux install disc
[10:37] <JHSands> is there a wireless card that supports wpa/wpa2 that works with ubuntu "out of the box"
[10:37] <mneptok> JHSands: PCI? PCMCIA?
[10:37] <DraxNS> any prism/orinoco/atheros wifi would work
[10:37] <yommb> Exabyte , If you DO find a driver ( which ,I think is the main issue here ,whether one exist .. ) , there will be instructions provided most likely !
[10:37] <mneptok> DraxNS: MadWiFi does not work "out of the box"
[10:37] <Exabyte> yommb alright great, thanks
[10:38] <DraxNS> ahhh sorry.. I have overlooked
[10:38] <DraxNS> I thought it is just card q.
[10:38] <yommb> Exabyte : but as I said ? i'm not a hw raid expert , so pls keep in mind this advice is not absolute :)
[10:39] <DraxNS> anyway ... how can I force fglrx to load at boot? It works only afer I do ctrl+alt+backpace
[10:39] <Exabyte> yommb lol np, i'm trying anything that I can
[10:39] <rellik> anyone here use ruby on rails?  I'm having trouble getting it installed
[10:40] <DraxNS> I used driver from repository
[10:40] <mneptok> DraxNS: is the fglrx driver specified explicitly in xorg.conf?
[10:40] <DraxNS> yes
[10:40] <DraxNS> glxgears work
[10:40] <mneptok> have you restarted X?
[10:40] <mneptok> (i.e. reboot)
[10:40] <DraxNS> it says ATI not MESA
[10:40] <DraxNS> etc
[10:41] <DraxNS> yes.. if I just rastart X it works
[10:41] <DraxNS> but if I reboot.. it does not work
[10:41] <DraxNS> until I restart X again
[10:41] <yommb> !raid
[10:41] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:41] <JHSands> mneptok: PCI
[10:41] <yommb> !raid | Exabyte
[10:41] <ubotu> Exabyte: please see above
[10:42] <mneptok> JHSands: mini or regular?
[10:42] <JHSands> mneptok: regular
[10:42] <mneptok> DraxNS: the 'ati' driver in xorg.conf is the open source driver.
[10:43] <DraxNS> instead of ati in xorg.. I have fglrx.. as I have installed fglrx from repository
[10:43] <mneptok> JHSands: "out of the box" will be difficult. a card that relies on the linux-restricted-modules package far less so.
[10:43] <DraxNS> as well as restricted modules
[10:43] <mneptok> DraxNS: pastebin the xorg.conf
[10:44] <DraxNS> agh.. it is on my laptop.. at home... :-(
[10:44] <mneptok> DraxNS: and ensure you fossow this to the lenner - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:44] <mneptok> *follow
[10:45] <DraxNS> I think I used it.. wait
[10:45] <DraxNS> yes.. I used it
[10:45] <hagabaka> hmm
[10:45] <Dh3Y0> how do i stop "make"