[07:00] <agc93> no idea how to fix it unfortunately. Thats also as close as I got to making it work.
[07:01] <agc93> I even tried GNOME's IRC but nobody really knew for mine, which was a slightly different problem. You can try #gnome-shell on irc.gnome.org
[07:02] <r0b-> why would 10.04.4LTS kernel panic about Linksys WMP54G WIFI?
[07:02] <chintanparikh> agc93: I see, thanks a lot. I'll let you know if I do get it fixed.  I basically need to choose between dual displays + lag, or a single display
[07:03] <linuxuz3r_> chintanparikh, i wish i can help
[07:03] <agc93> At least you've got the option :P I'm now at the stage of needing Unity if I want two displays
[07:03] <linuxuz3r_> i got dual display working on 10.04 but not 12.04
[07:04] <agc93> yeah 10.04 was pretty simple by comparison
[07:04] <rodrigo> hello, I'm trying to set mupen64plus as the default program for .v64 files, but mupen64plus when i try to choose mupen64plus, it is not listed anywhere
[07:04] <agc93> I've actually found NVIDIA's slightly easier to work with than their ATI counterparts
[07:04] <chintanparikh> Agreed
[07:04] <rodrigo> I use ubuntu 12.04 btw
[07:05] <agc93> rodrigo: When you right click on the file and choose Open with Other Applications what do you get?
[07:06] <linuxuz3r_> he needs to find mupen64plus
[07:06] <linuxuz3r_> try whereis mupen64plus
[07:06] <agc93> yeah, but if its in the list, that would be easier
[07:06] <rodrigo> No applications found to open "007.v64"
[07:06] <linuxuz3r_> what is mupen64plus
[07:07] <dfcnvt> Did anybody figured out the solution for Flash(adobe) issues?
[07:07] <rodrigo> linuxuz3r_: It's a n64 emulator
[07:07] <linuxuz3r_> ok
[07:07] <agc93> When you right click on the file and say Open with Other Applications you get No Applications found??
[07:08] <rodrigo> I am not sure it is exactly that in English, but yes. maybe it's because I don't use the ubuntu repository version that is a little outdated
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> id just run the emulator.. and  load the file from it. ;)
[07:11] <rodrigo> this version has no gui, everytime i have to run it from the terminal
[07:11] <Zally666> So tuner mess this weekend dr?
[07:11] <agc93> thats probably your problem rodrigo
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> many emulators have alterantive gui front ends.
[07:12] <damagednoob> i'm running Ubuntu 11.10 and I just got a new router but I can't seem to connect to it consistently. I've run several commands and the output can be seen here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1040384/.
[07:12] <damagednoob> On failures, I seem to be getting a 'Reason 2' error in dmesg which seems to mean 'Previous authentications no longer valid'
[07:14] <jagginess> damagednoob, you mean your "wifi" and your AP(access point).
[07:14] <ak5> My ssh session was killed during installing a pkg and now dpkg is complaining: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[07:15] <jagginess> ak5, LOL
[07:15] <jagginess> ak5, next time use "screen -RR"
[07:15] <rodrigo> ok, i think i saw something that should solve my problem, thx
[07:15] <damagednoob> jagginess, well i don't think there's anything wrong with my laptop's wifi or my AP, I dual boot win7 and it connects without a problem everytime
[07:16] <Cottus> damagednoob, is it possiible that two network managers are working at the same time?
[07:16] <damagednoob> Cottus, not sure, how do i tell?
[07:17] <jagginess> damagednoob, says the ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:17] <jagginess> damagednoob, can you do ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[07:17] <liviu> ddsa
[07:17] <damagednoob> jagginess, nope, but the gateway is set to <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:17] <jagginess> damagednoob, and your ap is "MyWifiNetwork" ?
[07:18] <damagednoob> jagginess, yes
[07:18] <ak5> jagginess: yeah, I wasn't expecting tht shit
[07:19] <jagginess> damagednoob, um.. so what about pinging to .254 then?
[07:19] <damagednoob> jagginess, that works, i get a response
[07:19] <jagginess> ak5, not sure how to figure that lock unfortunately.. see if anything is being processed using ps or lsof
[07:20] <jagginess> damagednoob, oh it does.. then what "does" not work?
[07:20] <Abhijit> hi. i got missing plugni error while trying to open .xls file in chromium, nothing happends in firefox and opera for same file. help plesae
[07:20] <jagginess> ak5, but once its completed, try --> apt-get -f install, and dpkg -C"
[07:21] <jagginess> ak5, and "dpkg -C"
[07:21] <jagginess> damagednoob, maybe you mean the dns isnt working?
[07:21] <blendedbychris> if i have an interface that is using NAT to end up with a public ip address do i need to/can i declare the public ip as an alias? ie eth0:1
[07:21] <damagednoob> jagginess, it takes a long time to connect to a wifi network, today, 3 and a half minutes
[07:21] <jalal> hi guys i am facing a problem in ubuntu
[07:21] <Cottus> damagednoob, maybe two configurations overlap
[07:22] <jagginess> damagednoob, what does the wired ethernet get as it's ip?
[07:22] <jalal> i need to solve it
[07:22] <jalal> i do not know if it is bug or what
[07:22] <damagednoob> jagginess, when I look at the output from dmesg, i see a 'Reason 2' error right before it connects to the same network
[07:22] <jagginess> damagednoob, the wired shouldn't get a similar ip in the same subnet (eg: it shouldnt get an ip from the same AP router)
[07:22] <Cottus> jalal, first ask
[07:22] <jagginess> damagednoob, disconnect the ethernet?
[07:23] <jalal> when i use ubuntu software center and i try to install software nothing happend
[07:23] <XiRoN> Hi, I have a problem where 'socat' keeps closing when nothing is connected to it, Is there any way to keep socat's connection alive under any circumstance?
[07:23] <damagednoob> jagginess, i'm not connected via cable, i only connect via wifi
[07:23] <testet> moooeh
[07:23] <jalal> anyone one alive?
[07:23] <XiRoN> me
[07:23] <dontknow> how can i learn my monitor's current refresh rate? using open source driver
[07:23] <damagednoob> Cottus, how do i tell if two configurations overlap?
[07:23] <XiRoN> I'm alive but my socat isnt
[07:24] <XiRoN> Hi, I have a problem where 'socat' keeps closing when nothing is connected to it, Is there any way to keep socat's connection alive under any circumstance?
[07:24] <jalal> ur socket wil be soon
[07:24] <jalal> plz help me for ubuntu soft center
[07:25] <Cottus> damagednoob, i messed some time my network , /etc/network/interfaces/, wpa_supplicant, network-manager, wicd
[07:25] <XiRoN> I'm gonna cry if someone doesn't help me
[07:25] <Cottus> Cottus, i don't know how to tell
[07:25] <jalal> i guess i need to go
[07:25] <Cottus> Cottus, but you can close all of them and open only the default
[07:25] <jalal> no one will help here
[07:26] <testet> hi Cottus :)
[07:26] <Cottus> jalal, try running software-center from the console
[07:26] <Cottus> hi testet
[07:26] <jalal> center is running
[07:26] <jalal> but when i click on install nothing happend
[07:26] <xuzizzz> How do I closed 3 D hardware acceleration in ubuntu
[07:26] <jalal> after clicking on install nothing happend
[07:27] <Cottus> jalal, open a terminal> type> ubuntu-software-center ithinks
[07:28] <Cottus> damagednoob, how is it going?
[07:28] <jalal> does not working form conole too
[07:28] <wubino> I want to start a LAN in my home.  I have a netgear gs105 gigabit switch is this enough to get started?
[07:28] <damagednoob> Cottus, i have both wpa_supplicant and network-manager installed, but not wicd
[07:28] <jalal> install button doesn' works
[07:29] <Cottus> the only thing i know is network-manager uses wpa_supplicant , but you can you wpa_supplicant as a standallone i guess you don't so no worry
[07:30] <agc93> wubino: at a bare-bones level, yes. But that also depends on how you currently connect to the Internet?
[07:31] <wubino> agc93: The internet is connected into the netgear switch and a laptop and desktop get the internet from there
[07:31] <artyu> hi
[07:32] <Cottus> damagednoob, i have similar problems all the time , code 11 , code ? , code ? about 3 codes i have seen, no idea
[07:32] <artyu> i would like to trun off 5 pc in sametime how to ?
[07:32] <wubino> agc93:  I cannot find any good ref on setting the ipv settings manually, the docs just mention it in passing and say check manufacture docs
[07:32] <damagednoob> Cottus, i did find this site: http://etutorials.org/Networking/Wireless+lan+security/Chapter+4.+WLAN+Fundamentals/Basic+Choreography/
[07:32] <wubino> agc93:  manufacturer docs say nothing of the sort
[07:32] <Cottus> thxn
[07:32] <agc93> What device are you trying to set the IP address for?
[07:32] <damagednoob> Cottus, it has a list of the reason numbers and what they mean
[07:33] <Cottus> that would be helpfull
[07:34] <sacarlson> wubino: I think there is a command that lists the ipv setting available on the device as each device has different ipv's
[07:37] <wubino> outdated but it just might work: http://linhost.info/2008/11/how-to-set-a-static-ip-on-ubuntu-810/
[07:38] <sacarlson> wubino: see  sudo iwpriv interface --all  to list all ipriv of your device  man iwpriv
[07:40] <agc93> if you're just trying to set a static interface you can just edit the connections from the network icon and say static instead of automatic
[07:41] <testet> :D
[07:41] <Volis> Hi guys,
[07:42] <Volis> I have a dell laptop and they have these two exe files filed under BIOS on their product support page, since my BIOS is giving me a few problems. Is there a way to install them?
[07:43] <Volis> Wine will do?
[07:44] <fidel> Volis: what kind of problems do you have?
[07:44] <Volis> (My main trouble is that the computer won't recognize any bootable media)
[07:44] <Volis> fidel, ^
[07:44] <Volis> (Yes, I have set the boot priority menu correctly)
[07:44] <fidel> regarding your question: we cant tell you if a random exe file you dont link might be a flash-util, or the bios as archive or whatever else
[07:45] <fidel> so - we cant really answer if you can use wine or not - as bios-flashing from within winie/linux is most likely not a good idea ;)
[07:45] <Volis> The USB has 1st priority then CD and last is HDD. I plug in Bootable USB, it loads up from HDD anyway, I load up bootable CD, still boots from HDD anyway.
[07:45] <fidel> depends on what exe & functionality you are talking about in the first place - basically
[07:46] <Volis> I get your point.
[07:46] <Volis> I guess I am not really left with any option other than to contact customer support.
[07:47] <ciampix> hello list, I think I found a (IMHO important) bug
[07:47] <fidel> have you checked your bootable CD on another machine?
[07:47] <fidel> is the CD working on this other pc?
[07:47] <Volis> fidel, Yes it works. I have also checked the USB, it works there too.
[07:47] <agc93> ciampixk in that case you might be better off on Launchpad rather than here
[07:48] <fidel> ciampix: or maybe using ubuntu-bug cmd in cli which submits all relevant data to the related launchpad project
[07:48] <ciampix> agc93:  I would like to report it the best way ... I'm here to ask some questions about lauchpad...
[07:48] <fidel> ciampix: personaly i just do: ubuntu-bug PACKAGENAME
[07:49] <fidel> as a result it collects some sys-info - and opens up your browser & launchdpad-page to finish the report
[07:49] <fidel> this needs an launchpad account afaik to be able to edit the report
[07:49] <ciampix> fidel: thanks !
[07:50] <KuRA> when I uninstall application via software center, is it the same as using apt-get purge or apt-get remove?
[07:50] <fidel> this will result in status mails - unless you change it - everytime someone adds something to this specific bug
[07:51] <ciampix> If you are curious I finally found a way to make suspend work reliably again from transition from 10.04 to 12.04: adding at boot nomodeset
[07:51] <fidel> ciampix: what kind of bug is that?
[07:51] <ciampix> I have a very common portable: Acer Extensa 5220...
[07:54] <ciampix> fidel: suspend works reliably only with nomodeset, if I do not append that command at boot I can suspend just 3 or 4 times before freezing the PC, I think this is a BIG and potentially dangerous bug!
[07:56] <fidel> ciampix: just not sure how easy it is to reproduce that without your device ;)
[07:56] <fidel> but good luck
[07:58] <ciampix> fidel: my pc is _really_ common and the fact that with a so common PC suspend does not work is not a good thing at all....
[07:59] <kokozedman> hey guys...
[07:59] <kokozedman> can anyone tell, if the "TCP Proportional Rate Reduction" feature is on Ubuntu Server 12.04?
[07:59] <ciampix> I thing that is to blame is the video card driver (Intel integrated GM965)...
[07:59] <kokozedman> is there anything to activate it? is active by default?
[08:01] <ciampix> btw how can I stop all these messages warning me that that use is entered and that other user is leaving the chat (I'm using empathy...)?
[08:01] <Abhijit> hi. i got missing plugni error while trying to open .xls file in chromium, nothing happends in firefox and opera for same file. help plesae
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> check its settings/plugins  ti  hide parts/joins
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> or use a better irc client.  empathy is better fir im, then irc
[08:04] <ciampix> Dr_Willis: there is no settings in Empathy, which client irc do you use?
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> ciampix:  check itd plugins. i belive  they  are in there. i use weechat
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> weechat has 'smart' filters feature to hide part/joins of people that have idled for so  long.. someonewho just talked. i do see them leave
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> some who just enters then leaves.. i dont  even see it...
[08:05] <ciampix> Dr_willis: you are right ...
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> most IM clients dont really work well with chat rooms that can  have 2000+ people in them. :)
[08:07] <dsk_> quit
[08:07] <dsk_> exit
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> dsk_:  put a/ befor commands
[08:08] <ciampix> Dr_willys: ...I was looking in the chat window, in the other (main) there are some setting ... I try fiddling with options...
[08:12] <blackshirt> Hello
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> hi
[08:16] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, i will create a ad-hoc on my system but first i want to known if i can use WPA2 and if is possible to monitor failed attempts to my network...
[08:18] <CrazyGangster> any1?
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> you using a wireless router?
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> cat sayive ever gotten ad-hoc to work in any os.. ;)
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> but i imagine threds some logs somewhere about it
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> you can hide your ssid if you realy want to be extra secure i guess
[08:26] <jagginess> Dr_Willis, nope
[08:26] <jagginess> Dr_Willis, that doesnt add any more security..
[08:26] <llutz> it adds more problems
[08:27] <jagginess> also ad-hoc is plain stupid..
[08:27] <l0lcat> jagginess: I dont like ad-homniem either
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> as i said.. ive never gotten ad-hoc to work on any os or machines ive ever tried it on
[08:28] <l0lcat> Dr_Willis: Layer 8 probably
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> they do make these battery powered portable routers.. ;)
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> friend had one that worked well for our 'frag fest' one sat night at work..
[08:30] <l0lcat> Dr_Willis: frag fest?
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> yep. good old quake fragging each other..
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> actually it was RTCW:et  an oldie..
[08:31] <l0lcat> Okay
[08:32] <Zally666> Et
[08:33] <Zally666> Et on console
[08:33] <kanha> I have plugged in my USB pendrive, but it is not mounting automatically. I want to mount it manually. Where do I view the logs and how do I troubleshoot this issue?
[08:34] <Zally666> Bin2o makes objects but howto object to source?
[08:34] <Zally666> Bin2o makes objects but howto object to source?
[08:34] <user> hi people, i wanted to boot xubuntu on a machine and it didnt detect the HD. but when i want to install xubuntu it detects the harddrive when it comes to partitioning it. can someone tell me y?
[08:34] <ikonia> user: using raid ?
[08:35] <user> because i have some data that i would like to recover before formatting it.
[08:35] <user> ikonia: no it is an ide
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[08:35] <l0lcat> user: bye
[08:35] <ikonia> user: what is the error when you try to boot
[08:35] <ful-jonas> Doe canonical post a yearly budget review anywhere? Or does anyone know how large canonicals loss (or profit) where last year?
[08:35] <ikonia> l0lcat: why bye ?
[08:35] <l0lcat> ikonia: He left?
[08:35] <ikonia> l0lcat: so he did
[08:35] <ikonia> ful-jonas: it's a public company
[08:35] <kanha> thanks ubottu :)
[08:35] <l0lcat> It is customary to say bye when someone leave
[08:36] <Zally666> Can i do the opposite of gcc ? O to c
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> a decompiler?
[08:37] <Zally666> I can with gdb but manually
[08:38] <Zally666> Dr yes revers
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> been years since ive seen a decompiler.
[08:38] <Guest48301> sry got dc somehow, i was the user called user
[08:39] <Guest48301> ikonia: no i dont use raid, it is a ide dh
[08:39] <Guest48301> hd
[08:39] <Zally666> And witch one did u see?
[08:39] <Zally666> And witch one did u see?
[08:39] <ful-jonas> ikonia: I really can not find anything. But then again I'm not sure what the word for the final budget review is in English..
[08:40] <AdvoWork> is there anything out there that will report disk usage on /  thats not slow? im doing du -csh /  but it takes forever!! and doesn't report anything for ags
[08:40] <AdvoWork> *ages
[08:40] <Zally666> Dr most emu use one
[08:44] <terminhell> hi
[08:47] <eFfeM> puzzled with 12.04 & wireshark, somehow it persists that I give root access, can't get it to run from a regular user (it will immediately prompt for passwd)
[08:47] <eFfeM> that is when launched from unity, when launched from cmd line it is ok
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> persists?  you mean it insists? ie: demands?
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> the unity launcher may be using 'gksudo wireshark' as its coimmand
[08:48] <fishcooker> due to green computing .. i've forced to manage the power of my cluster @lab,, anyone with Wakeup On LAN
[08:48] <ikonia> it will need root access to run in promisious mode
[08:49] <eFfeM> Dr_Willis: indeed insists, sorry english is not my native language
[08:49] <eFfeM> will check the cmd
[08:49] <JohnnyricoMC> [10:48:42] <fishcooker> due to green computing .. i've forced to manage the power of my cluster @lab,, anyone with Wakeup On LAN
[08:49] <JohnnyricoMC> anyone with wake-on-lan what?
[08:49] <ikonia> wake on lan depends on the hardware and bios
[08:50] <JohnnyricoMC> uhu
[08:50] <eFfeM> hm any idea where I can configure the unity cmd for wireshark ?
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> WakeOnLan - seems to be very picky also. ;)
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> eFfeM:  look for its .desktop file
[08:50] <JohnnyricoMC> most modern NICs support WoL, try sudo ethtool <NIC>
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> or make a custom launcher for it
[08:50] <ikonia> wake on lan is probably inappropriate for a cluster
[08:50] <JohnnyricoMC> to see whether your nic supports magic packet
[08:51] <JohnnyricoMC> If it outputs "Supports Wake-on: <letters>" and letters contains a g, your NIC supports magic pcket
[08:52] <JohnnyricoMC> If it contains a d as well, it does support magic packet but it's not currently enabled
[08:52] <JohnnyricoMC> so you'll need to do "sudo ethtool -s <NIC> wol g"
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> I got 'wake on: g' :)
[08:53] <JohnnyricoMC> Or make it persistent by editing /etc/network/interfaces with "up ethtool -s <NIC> wol g" under "iface <NIC> ..."
[08:53] <fishcooker> How to know that my board support wake on lan without turnoff n get bios up, ikonia JohnnyricoMC?
[08:53] <llutz> fishcooker: you just have been told
[08:54] <JohnnyricoMC> Fishcooker, I just told how to
[08:54] <BlouBlou> What's the web in which is explained how to move from kubuntu to ubuntu by using a command? (remvoing and reinstalling applications)
[08:54] <eFfeM> Dr_Willis: no gksudo or sudo or related in /home/usr/share/applications/wireshark.desktop :-(
[08:54] <JohnnyricoMC> [10:50:39] <JohnnyricoMC> most modern NICs support WoL, try sudo ethtool <NIC>
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> !puregnome
[08:54] <JohnnyricoMC> [10:51:42] <JohnnyricoMC> If it outputs "Supports Wake-on: <letters>" and letters contains a g, your NIC supports magic pcke
[08:54] <JohnnyricoMC> [10:52:12] <JohnnyricoMC> If it contains a d as well, it does support magic packet but it's not currently enabled
[08:54] <JohnnyricoMC> [10:52:35] <JohnnyricoMC> so you'll need to do "sudo ethtool -s <NIC> wol g"
[08:54] <JohnnyricoMC> [10:53:33] <JohnnyricoMC> Or make it persistent by editing /etc/network/interfaces with "up ethtool -s <NIC> wol g" under "iface <NIC> ..."
[08:55] <JohnnyricoMC> There
[08:55] <BlouBlou> there's not for 12.04
[08:55] <fishcooker> sorry my bad llutz JohnnyricoMC
[08:55] <JohnnyricoMC> np
[08:55] <BlouBlou> Dr_Willis: isn't there another web? since it doesn't supoort 12.04
[08:55] <BlouBlou> support
[08:55] <fishcooker> JohnnyricoMC: what is <NIC>
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> BlouBlou:  no idea.i rarely ininstall stuff.
[08:55] <fishcooker> just like ip_address?
[08:55] <JohnnyricoMC> Network Interface Controller
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> rarely Uninstall ;)
[08:55] <JohnnyricoMC> aka eth0
[08:56] <JohnnyricoMC> or eth1,eth2,...
[08:56] <fishcooker> ic
[08:56] <JohnnyricoMC> To actually boot a WOL-enabled computer, there are several tools
[08:56] <AdvoWork> is there anything out there that will report disk usage on /  thats not slow? im doing du -csh /  but it takes forever!! and doesn't report anything for ages, and massively slows my system down
[08:57] <JohnnyricoMC> Personally, I use wakelan: "wakelan -b <IP_ADDRESS> -m xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx"
[08:57] <JohnnyricoMC> This sends a magic packet to the subnet's broadcast address. The x-es need to be replaced with the MAC-address of your NIC
[08:57] <BlouBlou> Dr_Willis: see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[08:57] <fidel> AdvoWork: would 'df' be enough?
[08:58] <fidel> maybe combine it with 'watch'
[08:58] <llutz> JohnnyricoMC: "wakeonlan -b ..." you mean?
[08:58] <BlouBlou> Dr_Willis: a last question, shall I use "purge" instead of remove?
[08:58] <JohnnyricoMC> nope, wakelan
[08:58] <JohnnyricoMC> there's a frakton of WOL-programs out there llutz
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> BlouBlou:  purge removes system configs.
[08:59] <BlouBlou> yeah
[08:59] <VectorX> hi, i am connecting to a win machine via rdesktop -f, once its full screen i cant get back to ubuntu unless i close it, whats the method to also use ubuntu at the same time ?
[08:59] <BlouBlou> Dr_Willis: so it would remove kde configs
[08:59] <llutz> JohnnyricoMC: yes, and wakelan is NOT in debian/ubuntu
[08:59] <JohnnyricoMC> I just use wakelan in a little script on my NAS to boot my desktop when I'm not at home
[08:59] <JohnnyricoMC> so that explains things :)
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> BlouBlou:  if you wan tto remove the system configs yes.. None will touch stuff in thee users home dir
[08:59] <llutz> so better to stick with stuff from repos like wakeonlan, etherwake
[08:59] <JohnnyricoMC> hmmm
[09:00] <poldinho92> salve
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> so i can set an alarm on m y android phone to wake up my pc at 9:00 ;)
[09:00] <JohnnyricoMC> it's just an example. Essentially, it boils down to the same with each one: send a magic packet to the broadcast address, containing the MAC-address :)
[09:00] <BlouBlou> Dr_Willis: okay, thank you, doing that command now!!! :)
[09:00] <poldinho92> !bot
[09:01] <poldinho92> !list
[09:01] <AdvoWork> fidel, not really, i need to know whats taking up all the space on my drive, ie which folder(s)
[09:03] <lonely_leaf> hello ,everyone
[09:03] <llutz> AdvoWork: since any reporting tool has to read and calculate the filesizes, the speed only depends on your hdd-speed
[09:04] <fidel> yep - i doubt you can heavily speed that up
[09:04] <llutz> you can, using ssd :)
[09:04] <fidel> there might be small diffs depending who the tool checks it ...but basically it should be hw-limited - not sw-wise
[09:04] <fidel> llutz: good point hehe
[09:04] <tjadc> Hi, I'm using chrome and and would like to use the flash debug player. I have downloaded and copied files to their relative locations, however the plugin is not listed in chrome. I have even placed the replaced the normal flash player .so file with the debug player .so file, then both plugins are not listed
[09:13] <AdvoWork> hmm, can I run du -sh /var/www/test/whatever/test/* and either order by file size descending or ignore individual files?
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> pipe it through sort perhaps?
[09:14] <llutz> AdvoWork: "man du" --exclude=....
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> ive seen awk scripts that can parse the output also to donicer reports
[09:18] <DarwinSurvivor> tjadc: chrome uses a built-in flash player, not a plugin. I'm not sure if it's even *capable* of using the plugin version.
[09:20] <tjadc> DarwinSurvivor: Thanks. Yes, supposedly 2 versions of the plugin will be listed in the plugins list, where you should disable the built in flash player
[09:20] <AdvoWork> llutz, i can and saw --exclude but thats for specific files according to the docs, all the files are different, unless * would exclude files, but i would assume it would exclude folders too?
[09:20] <tjadc> Can't get the 2nd plugin to be listed
[09:21] <llutz> AdvoWork: it takes a pattern and will exclude any file/dir matching it (iirc)
[09:23] <mi3> Hello, I use ubuntu 12.04 LTS, I use a DSL connection for connecting to the internet, a few minutes ago, the dsl connection disconnected all of a sudden, I tried to reconnect it by clicking on the nm-applet, but it did not have an option at the time, so, I restarted my computer, and then only it got connected, can someone suggest whether its a fault from the ISP's side or my network manager ?
[09:24] <DarwinSurvivor> tjadc: you might have more luck in the chromium or google channels
[09:25] <DarwinSurvivor> mi3: when was the last time you updated the system?
[09:26] <tjadc> DarwinSurvivor: Alright, thanks
[09:26] <mi3> DarwinSurvivor, about 4 hours ago, sir
[09:26] <DarwinSurvivor> mi3: sometimes when a service or driver get updated, it can a little buggy until the service is restarted or driver is reloaded (which happens when you reboot). This is a common issue with video drivers as well
[09:28] <mi3> DarwinSurvivor, I upgraded the computer, which also included the kernel update, and it had asked me for a reboot, which I did, after the updates installation was complete, and it ran for 2 hours or so without any problems , sir
[09:29] <DarwinSurvivor> mi3: was that reboot before or after you had the "disconnect" problem?
[09:30] <mi3> DarwinSurvivor, before .
[09:30] <winlintech> Hello I`ve done changes in httpd that has cpanel on it
[09:30] <XiRoN> I just finished updating my Interfaces file, how to I reload the network?
[09:30] <winlintech> You will also need to add an A record mapped to * (asterisk) for the subdomain.  >> unable to understand meaning of this line
[09:31] <Viking667> winlintech: you're pretty new to setting up dns.
[09:31] <DarwinSurvivor> mi3: ok, then that's probably not what caused it. unfortunately I don't think network manager logs stuff like that, so unless it is *still* hapenning, there's not much troubleshooting that can be done.
[09:31] <Jonii_> Hello
[09:31] <DarwinSurvivor> mi3: if it happens again, come back while it is still having issues and we'll be able to run some tests to see if something is mis-configured
[09:31] <Jonii_> I was told by a html-document that in order to cron to work, process named crond must be running
[09:31] <winlintech> @viking667: yes
[09:32] <Jonii_> is process named cron enough, or does it have to be crond?
[09:32] <mi3> DarwinSurvivor, sure, I will be happen to inform you or someone else about this problem. Now, the connection is working normally, thanks for your time.
[09:32] <sacarlson> winlintech: I think it means like *.surething.biz  ?  I wouldn't worry about it if your sites are hit ok
[09:32] <DarwinSurvivor> mi3: no problem
[09:32] <llutz> Jonii_: cron  should be fine too, just different implementation
[09:32] <mi3> *happy
[09:33] <winlintech> no m proxying traffic from 8080 to 80
[09:33] <winlintech> using mod_proxy
[09:33] <Jonii_> llutz: next, i want to make sure my revision control system days relatively up to date, does it make sense to use cron for the job?
[09:34] <llutz> Jonii_: i'd say yes
[09:34] <Jonii_> that is, i'd use cron to set git commit to happen daily
[09:34] <mi3> DarwinSurvivor, one more problem, I removed unity and installed cairo-dock session, I can use the cairo-dock with gnome effects without any problems, but when I use the cairo-dock WITHOUT gnome effects, and try to remove any launcher, the cairo-dock hangs, is it a bug in cairo-dock ? suggestions please.
[09:34] <Jonii_> Next, what if the computer is not running if cron is scheduled to happen?
[09:35] <llutz> Jonii_: make sure you have anacron installed, it handles that situation
[09:36] <winlintech> @sacarlson: if i need to do it, how would i do?
[09:36] <sacarlson> winlintech: I'm not reading enuf between the lines sorry
[09:36] <sacarlson> winlintech: If I had some clues as to what file you might be editing?
[09:36] <winlintech> sacarlson: how to refer you directly? using @ ?
[09:37] <sacarlson> winlintech: bind9 config files?
[09:37] <winlintech> sacarlson: exactly
[09:37] <Jonii_> llutz: next, do you happen to know where to look for really really simple documentation about how to do this specific task. man cron contained lots of stuff I had difficulty understanding
[09:37] <mi3> I removed unity and installed cairo-dock session, I can use the cairo-dock with gnome effects without any problems, but when I use the cairo-dock WITHOUT gnome effects, and try to remove any launcher, the cairo-dock hangs, is it a bug in cairo-dock ? suggestions please.
[09:37] <llutz> Jonii_: man 5 crontab
[09:38] <Malsasa> Are there any download manager which can used behind a proxy server included handling proxy account (userpass)?
[09:38] <mi3> Malsasa, try wget
[09:38] <mi3> Malsasa, its terminal based.
[09:39] <Malsasa> mi3: but i want a download manager which can do splitting and has a GUI...
[09:39] <llutz> Jonii_: example: use "crontab -e"  add a job "@daily git commit ....someoptions..." and save it.  different aproach would be to write your commands into a script and just putting it into /etc/cron.daily
[09:39] <Malsasa> mi3: anything else wget?
[09:39] <mi3> Malsasa, try axel download manager
[09:40] <dariushall21> Hey guys, can someone link me on how to get official oracle/sun java for ubuntu 12.04? OpenJDK won't work for MC
[09:40] <llutz> Jonii_: 1st example would run it as your user, /etc/cron.daily is run as root. you have to decide which is better for your task
[09:40] <Malsasa> mi3: Axel?
[09:41] <sacarlson> winlintech: you should do some reading about it if you've not done before http://linux.justinhartman.com/DNS_Installation_and_Setup_using_BIND9
[09:41] <mi3> Malsasa, Axel is a download manager. and so is Steadyflow.
[09:41] <winlintech> sacarlson: its all pinging,getting correct hits.
[09:41] <Malsasa>  mi3: i know but as short as I know, Axel cant handle userpass in proxy
[09:42] <sacarlson> winlintech: tools like dig come in handy
[09:42] <winlintech> sacarlson: was making some changes so that traffic of 8080 port is proxied to 80 port
[09:42] <mi3> Malsasa, sudo apt-get install axel, if you want to install axel, and sudo apt-get install steadyflow, if you want to install steadyflow download manager
[09:42] <sacarlson> winlintech: that's not bind9 that's apache2
[09:42] <winlintech> sacarlson: yeah it is
[09:42] <mi3> Malsasa, I know very little about downloading through proxies, but I guess you can give those two a try :D
[09:42] <sacarlson> winlintech: again I can't read your mind
[09:43] <winlintech> sacarlson: yeah ,after doing with apache2 when i moved to bind i got problem
[09:43] <phanindraramesh> hai all,is there any graphical xml parser in ubuntu?
[09:43] <Malsasa> mi3: i have tried for many times and so long. I failed. And in the end, i ask you here :)
[09:44] <mi3> Malsasa, did you configure the settings properly ?
[09:44] <winlintech> sacarlson: i`ll cm up with specific error
[09:44] <sacarlson> winlintech: more reading then http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_proxy.html
[09:44] <DarwinSurvivor> mi3: sorry, I don't know much about cairo-dock. I used it a long time ago for a week in openbox, so I have no idea how it would interract in a gnome environment
[09:44] <winlintech> sacarlson: ok
[09:44] <Malsasa> mie: what settings? All setting i can, i have done them :)
[09:44] <mi3> DarwinSurvivor, err ok, sir, thanks for the suggestion, again :D
[09:45] <Malsasa> mi3: and they still cant work behind proxy (proxy which use userpass)
[09:45] <Nom-> Hey guys, I've followed the community docs on remastering a CD and i'm running into an error where the Signature verification for Release.gpg is failing... consequently it's not finding any kernels... any idea where i might have gone wrong?
[09:45] <mi3> Malsasa, use wget, it has plenty of documentation regarding how to use it with proxies.
[09:46] <Malsasa> mi3: but i dont wanna use it because it cant do splitting
[09:46] <Malsasa> mi3: that is my own reason :)
[09:46] <Malsasa> mi3: but thank you
[09:46] <mi3> Malsasa, I prefer wget, now its upto you, sir/ma'am :D
[09:46] <mi3> Malsasa, you are welcome.
[09:46] <Malsasa> mi3: i am man :)
[09:46] <mi3> Malsasa, LOL
[09:47] <mi3> Malsasa, wget is cool, its terminal based, but the best one .
[09:47] <Malsasa> mi3: so there is no download manager which can work behind passworded proxy in Linux?
[09:47] <Malsasa> mi3: yes i agree  if wget is good, but it is not pass my qualification
[09:47] <longbi> i have prob with apache2/mysql -- error is given below
[09:47] <longbi> Warning: mysql_connect(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[09:48] <mi3> Malsasa, I feel you should give wget a try, sir, it also has plenty of docs online
[09:48] <mi3> !paste | longbi
[09:48] <fishcooker> i hope rite now im rite due to green computing i want to give my cluster command $ 'pm-suspend' $ sudo apt-get install 'what'?
[09:48] <mi3> fishcooker, *right
[09:48] <serverboy> hello everyone
[09:48] <fishcooker> *right
[09:48] <sacarlson> longbi: sound like the mysql server isn't running or listening on that address
[09:49] <fishcooker> mi3:
[09:49] <llutz> fishcooker: pm-utils
[09:49] <fishcooker> what package i need?
[09:49] <mi3> fishcooker, yes ?
[09:49] <fishcooker> i've got it
 cannot occur within <VirtualHost> section
[09:49] <winlintech> Syntax error on line 1 of /usr/local/apache/conf/userdata/std/2
 alert, why or why does unity want to hide the applications menu from me, having to look for it drives me nuts! :) </rant>
[09:50] <mi3> fishcooker, can you elaborate a little more? your question is too insufficient to help me in solving your problem.
[09:50] <longbi> @sacarson: how do i start/rrestart mysql server?
[09:51] <sacarlson> winlintech: that's closer but you should just pastebin.ubuntu.com the file, also a strange location for it to be
[09:51] <winlintech> sacarlson: ohk
[09:51] <DarwinSurvivor> longbi: "sudo service mysqld restart" should do it
[09:51] <Malsasa> Haha. I have tried wget and it is slow...
[09:51] <Malsasa> mi3: Haha. I have tried wget and it is slow...
[09:52] <fishcooker> ok mi3 i've got pm-utils installed as llutz said
[09:52] <mi3> Malsasa, umm probably.
[09:52] <sacarlson> longbi: do you have phpmyadmin installed?  with that you can test conectivity
[09:52] <mi3> fishcooker, what package are you asking about ?
[09:52] <longbi> @DarwinSurvivor: mysqld: unrecognized service
[09:53] <fishcooker> then i'll wakeonlan it after pm-suspend it, will that happening llutz
[09:53] <fishcooker> pm-utils : for suspend my box
[09:53] <DarwinSurvivor> longbi: oh sorry "mysql" not "mysqld" :P
[09:53] <sacarlson> longbi: so guess mysql isn't installed then
[09:53] <fishcooker> mi3:
[09:53] <mi3> fishcooker, sorry, cant help :(
[09:53] <longbi> @sacarlson: phpmyadmin is installed. but i cannot login with it.
[09:53] <fishcooker> np
[09:53] <llutz> fishcooker: if your machine support suspending, yes
[09:54] <fishcooker> how to know it llutz.. john*mc tell me that it will be good for green computing
[09:54] <sacarlson> longbi: on my system to restart mysql  sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[09:55] <DarwinSurvivor> longbi: in case you missed my above comment, you need to use "mysql" not "mysqld" (I got confused since I use other distros as well that use mysqld instead)
[09:56] <longbi> @DarwinSurvivor: thanks alot man. its working again. was thinking of reinstall, now not needed. thanks to you.
[09:56] <Papa-Smurf> Hi guys
[09:57] <rigved> hi eveyone. how do i enable the terminal bell in ubuntu 12.04? I have enabled the check mark for Terminal Bell in Edit > Profile Preferences, but it does not work.
[09:57] <llutz> fishcooker: that thing you have to test. suspend your machine, power it on again and look if everything works again
[09:57] <Papa-Smurf> i'm trying to run Xorg -conf in my computer after stoping the gdm server and i get "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. Configuraion Failed"
[09:57] <Papa-Smurf> does anyone knows why this happens?
[09:58] <llutz> fishcooker: if it does, be happy. if it doesn't, forget it. the time to track down suspend/resume issues is wasted time. easier to poweroff/poweron
[09:58] <fishcooker> ok
[09:58] <Malsasa> mi3: thank you... i wanna go home... :)
[09:58] <longbi> @sacarlson: thank you. hope your help will be usefull in the future. thank again.
[09:58] <Jonii_> Weird, I'm starting to see why people like this command line interface so much
[09:59] <mi3> Malsasa, are you taking me with you ?
[09:59] <mi3> Malsasa, LOL
[09:59] <DarwinSurvivor> rigved: it should be enabled by default, can you verify that the cli application you are using is sending a bell signal?
[09:59] <llutz> Jonii_: it makes lots of things easier, just needs some time to get used to it
[10:00] <Jonii_> I always thought command line was sorta ritualistic way of signaling to other nerds that you are so hardcore that you can use this bare and confusing interface and still get some stuff done
[10:01] <DarwinSurvivor> Jonii_: well, there's that too! :D
[10:01] <Jonne_> anyone know how i can check when the locatedb was last updated?
[10:01] <Jonii_> But to think that it actually makes lots of stuff actually easier and faster
[10:01] <rigved> DarwinSurvivor: i am using irssi. i have enable beep in the config. but no beep sounds.
[10:01] <DarwinSurvivor> rigved: can you open sound settings (advanced volume adjustment window) and make sure "beep" is turned up?
[10:02] <Jonii_> is beep nowdays done using that legacy sound hardware, or is it soft-beep?
[10:02] <Jonne_> i guess just looking at when /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db is enough
[10:02] <DarwinSurvivor> Jonii_: soft-beeps. in fact you can even chose visual beeps (flashing) or a different sound for the beep.
[10:03] <kanupatar> how can I use dd command to dump the contents of a cd?
[10:03] <DarwinSurvivor> Jonii_: typically the only time you'll hear a hardware beep is if the *motherboard* generates it
[10:03] <rigved> DarwinSurvivor: i do not see "beep" in any of the tabs in Sound Settings...
[10:03] <Jonii_> i think there was a funny story behind the way legacy-beep remained on desktop computers for so long
[10:03] <DarwinSurvivor> kanupatar: "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path_to_image_file" should do it. You may need sudo
[10:03] <Papa-Smurf> How to reconfigure my Xorg.conf ???? Any clues?
[10:04] <kanupatar> DarwinSurvivor: ok, how can I specify any blockwsie read?
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> !xorg| Papa-Smurf
[10:05] <DarwinSurvivor> rigved: oh, they renamed it to "sound effects"
[10:05] <DarwinSurvivor> kanupatar: dd is a blockwise reader/writer, you shouldn't need any other settings.
[10:05] <Papa-Smurf> !xorgconf
[10:05] <rigved> DarwinSurvivor: In Sound Effects, Alert Volume is on full and the alert sound type is default.
[10:06] <DarwinSurvivor> kanupatar: but it can't hurt to make sure by adding "bs=64k" at the end
[10:06] <kanupatar> DarwinSurvivor: I mean , how can I read from sector 0 to sector 10 ?
[10:06] <Papa-Smurf> if X11 is deprecated what is then in use??
[10:06] <kanupatar> DarwinSurvivor: "dd bs=64k if=/dev/cdrom of=/path_to_image_file " ?
[10:07] <kanupatar> ?
[10:07] <rigved> DarwinSurvivor: i was searching online and there was mention of enabling pcspkr kernel module. it in my /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf. so, do i need to whitelist it?
[10:07] <DarwinSurvivor> kanupatar: that sounds like a strange thing to do, what are you actually trying to do....?
[10:07] <DarwinSurvivor> rigved: when you adjust the "alert volume" slider, do you hear a "popping bubble" sound when you let go of the slider?
[10:07] <kanupatar> DarwinSurvivor: I just want to read the sector header of sector 0 in the cd
[10:07] <kanupatar> cd ==  data cd , mode 1
[10:08] <Papa-Smurf> Have somebody run two graphics cards with Ubuntu?
[10:08] <DarwinSurvivor> kanupatar: in that case, use count= "sudo dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/kanupatar/some_path.iso bs=64K count=10" assuming the sectors are 64K each (you'd have to check that)
[10:09] <DarwinSurvivor> kanupatar: if you want to know what else dd can do, run "man dd" for a list of options and switches
[10:09] <kanupatar> DarwinSurvivor: ohh okay...great info and great thanks....
[10:10] <MonkeyDust> Papa-Smurf  ati, intel, nvidia?
[10:10] <kanupatar> DarwinSurvivor: why it is of *.iso at output folder?
[10:10] <kanupatar> DarwinSurvivor: it is just a hex dump right?
[10:10] <DarwinSurvivor> kanupatar: .iso is the standard filename extension for disk images, though if its only a header it's probably not appropriate anyways.
[10:11] <DarwinSurvivor> kanupatar: it is a 1:1 direct copy of the bits on the disk
[10:11] <Papa-Smurf> MonkeyDust, Nvidia + Intel
[10:11] <Papa-Smurf> :)
[10:11] <kanupatar> DarwinSurvivor: yes, so just any name will satisfy the need
[10:12] <DarwinSurvivor> rigved: I am running gnome-terminal on my ubuntu system right now and every time my name gets called I hear the beep. This system was fresh-installed 2 weeks ago, so it should be enabled by default
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> Papa-Smurf  there's this https://supersmasters.appspot.com/post/81981
[10:12] <DarwinSurvivor> kanupatar: you can put what-ever filepath you want after "of="
[10:12] <Papa-Smurf> MonkeyDust, thanks i will have a look
[10:12] <kanupatar> DarwinSurvivor: thanks
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> Papa-Smurf  http://askubuntu.com/questions/21455/how-to-manage-two-video-cards-on-a-laptop-ati-and-intel
[10:13] <SDX> I just installed Firefox 13 in /opt, but I can't find where I'm supposed to put any plugin files.  Plugins in ~/.mozilla/plugins aren't recognized.
[10:14] <SDX> Does anyone here know where they should go?
[10:15] <ikonia> SDX: you'll ned to look at where that package reads from, it's not an ubuntu package so whoever configured/build the package will know where it reads
[10:16] <DarwinSurvivor> SDX: you do know Firefox 13 is already in the repos right?
[10:16] <SDX> No, I didn't know that.
[10:17] <DarwinSurvivor> SDX: ubuntu usually has the latest firefox version within a week, so unless you are a beta tester, there's not much point in installing it manually anymore
[10:18] <SDX> Okay.
[10:18] <k1l_> SDX: take a look at the changelog: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/13.0+build1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:19] <Northwoods> how can i increase font of terminal on ubuntu ?
[10:20] <DarwinSurvivor> Northwoods: edit -> profile preferences -> general -> font (uncheck "use the system fixed width font)
[10:21] <whud> This question proved hard to Google: I have a laptop+docking with 2 external monitors. This setup works fine as long as im logged in to Ubuntu 12.04. If I reboot\logout the monitors will to black when I hit the login-screen and I have to login "blind" to get everything working again.. Anyone experienced this or know of a fix? its kinda annoying...
[10:26] <sacarlson> whud: autologin maybe?
[10:28] <abhilash> ucspi-tcp-0.88]# make
[10:28] <abhilash> ./load tcpserver rules.o remoteinfo.o timeoutconn.o cdb.a \
[10:28] <abhilash> 	dns.a time.a unix.a byte.a  `cat socket.lib`
[10:28] <abhilash> /usr/bin/ld: errno: TLS definition in /lib64/libc.so.6 section .tbss mismatches non-TLS reference in tcpserver.o
[10:28] <abhilash> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[10:28] <abhilash> make: *** [tcpserver] Error 1
[10:28] <FloodBot1> abhilash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:28] <abhilash> please help me out the above error
[10:29] <abhilash> make: *** [tcpserver] Error 1
[10:29] <abhilash> Does anybody know the above error
[10:29] <abhilash> ??
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> abhilash  put it in a pastebin
[10:30] <Ben64> and give more details
[10:30] <adamk> And be patient.
[10:30] <linuxuz3r_> and breathe
[10:30] <linuxuz3r_> and be happy
[10:30] <linuxuz3r_> and smile
[10:30] <linuxuz3r_> and be sad
[10:30] <linuxuz3r_> and frown
[10:30] <FloodBot1> linuxuz3r_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:31] <fishcooker> on which port dhcpd-server running?
[10:31] <jita> why is source command used ?
[10:31] <abhilash> Hunk #1 FAILED at 1.
[10:31] <abhilash> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file /usr/include/errno.h.rej
[10:31] <fishcooker> for load the file config jita
[10:32] <whud> maybe sacarlson.. but that would be giving up! was hoping someone else had seen it so i could fix it permanently.
[10:32] <jita> fishcooker, like source ~/.zshrc if i run this, what would happen ?
[10:32] <whud> i was checking and while the external monitors are black, i can open the laptop and get picture there
[10:32] <fishcooker> that will execute the file
[10:33] <fishcooker> just open your .zch* file
[10:33] <fishcooker> you will look many bashscript there jita
[10:34] <sacarlson> abhilash: is there a reason you need to compile this rather than sudo apt-get install ucspi-tcp ; ?
[10:34] <WeissLehrer> for some reason the dhclient is not asking for a new ip after lease... any idea?
[10:35] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: what does it do loose your ip address then?
[10:36] <WeissLehrer> sacarlson: my isp
[10:36] <elijah> Is there an indicator to display what workspace I am on?
[10:36] <WeissLehrer> im not sure I understand the question
[10:37] <elijah> Everything I search for says I need to install from a PPA, I was hoping there would be something stock.
[10:37] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: you say it doesn't ask for a new IP so after the lease expires what does it do?
[10:37] <WeissLehrer> sacarlson: it keeps the old ip losing connection to internet eventually
[10:38] <tuk> hi
[10:38] <WeissLehrer> I think
[10:40] <VictorCL> hi
[10:40] <WeissLehrer> sacarlson: I don't really know how to analize it
[10:40] <VictorCL> how can I make the command :  du  -ch   to skip showing me the list of files and folders , I just want the result
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> VictorCL  from the man pages      -s, --summarize display only a total for each argument
[10:43] <gewor> tes
[10:43] <VictorCL> and how can I list folders that are bigger than a x amount of MB for example?
[10:43] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: and when this happens you can still see dhclient running?   sudo ps -A | grep dhc ;
[10:44] <rigved> DarwinSurvivor: yes. i hear a pop bubble when i move the slider to the max.
[10:44] <BlouBlou> hi, I'm using pidgin, when I minimize a conversation, how can I restore it?
[10:44] <BlouBlou> for example an IRC chat
[10:44] <DarwinSurvivor> rigved: can you confirm that irssi is sending the beep sound? Usually you have to install and load a script to do that
[10:44] <gewor> hi, am new using xchat and irc actualy, anyone can see my type ??
[10:45] <BlouBlou> gewor: yes
[10:45] <rigved> DarwinSurvivor: if i just enable beep in config file, then it should work, right?
[10:45] <quixotedon> gewor: yes
[10:45] <gewor> oke, thanks
[10:45] <WeissLehrer> sacarlson: it is weird that there are 3 dhclients... two dhclient3 and one dhclient
[10:45] <BlouBlou> well, so does anyone know how to maximize again a pidgin conversation in Unity?
[10:45] <DarwinSurvivor> rigved: not sure, I've had my irssi customized for quite a while, so I'm not sure what it does by default anymore.
[10:45] <rigved> DarwinSurvivor: no, i do not hear a beep when my name is mentioned in irssi
[10:46] <DarwinSurvivor> rigved: if you run it in tmux, the title at the bottom of the screen should invert when a beep is sent (you have to be looking at a different tmux screen at the time though)
[10:46] <rigved> DarwinSurvivor: ok. can you confirm that you have some irssi script which does the sound part?
[10:46] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: that shouldn't be,  how did you make that happen?
[10:46] <inferno> bonjour je suis un p'tit noob ;) et ma commande et pas bonne.. pourrier vous m'aider svp find -name *.jpg -exec -mv Images *jpg\;
[10:46] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: did you compile one and have the original one installed?
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> inferno  et c'est n00b et non pas noob
[10:47] <DarwinSurvivor> rigved: I have "hilightwin" installed, but I'm not positive which script (if any) is responsible for sending the beep. I do know you have to tell irssi what your username is so it knows what text to watch for.
[10:47] <WeissLehrer> sacarlson: actually I think I got it from a previous version, I did some release-update in the past
[10:47] <WeissLehrer> sacarlson: but this is the first time I use the dhclient in the machine
[10:47] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: well kill all of them and restart one
[10:48] <elijah> Is there an indicator to display what workspace I am on? Everything I search for says I need to install from a PPA, I was hoping there would be something stock. I would think that this would be a standard option for those who use workspaces. "Indicator Workspaces" appears to only be supported for Oneiric --> https://code.launchpad.net/indicator-workspaces. Any guidance would be appreciated. Sometimes Ubuntu pops my windows to another work
[10:48] <rigved> DarwinSurvivor: ah. i have not done that. not told irssi what my name is...
[10:48] <DarwinSurvivor> rigved: the #irssi channel has a lot of people in it, one of them can probably more easily help you make sure irssi is sending the beep
[10:48] <SkippersBoss> BlouBlou: your window should be available via "window Buttons"... Oops you are using Unity.
[10:48] <rigved> DarwinSurvivor: ok. thanks! will look into it in a some time.
[10:48] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: I think upstart will detect that dhclient that it want is not running and restart one, so make sure you restart with upstart
[10:49] <DarwinSurvivor> rigved: are you running it directly or inside screen/tmux?
[10:49] <rigved> DarwinSurvivor: directly
[10:50] <DarwinSurvivor> rigved: "/hilight -mask yournick" might do it. but that will be undone each time you restart irssi (there is a setting in the config file for it as well)
[10:50] <quixotedon> BlouBlou: the windows button is somehow called Super, :d
[10:50] <DarwinSurvivor> rigved: run the /hilight command and see if it fixes it, if so then it's an irssi config issue
[10:50] <WeissLehrer> sacarlson: upstart you mean init.d?
[10:51] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: no the new version upstart I'm not too up on it
[10:51] <BlouBlou> alt + masculine ? what's that?
[10:51] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: http://geeknme.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/getting-started-with-upstart-in-ubuntu/
[10:52] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: so it should be like sudo restart dhclient
[10:52] <Papa-Smurf> !X
[10:52] <dsirijus> anyone had issues with ubuntu running under virtualbox? i.e. completely missing top panel? it does show shadow though
[10:52] <Papa-Smurf> !ligthdm
[10:52] <Papa-Smurf> !lighthdm
[10:52] <dsirijus> i've installed -ose guest additions, though, x11, dkms, guest
[10:52] <Papa-Smurf> !lightdm
[10:52] <Papa-Smurf> !gdm
[10:53] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: I assume you run ubuntu 12.04 that is moving into upstart,  I still run 10.04 so still work mostly the old way
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> Papa-Smurf  use /msg ubottu for factoids to self
[10:53] <pengw> !gdm
[10:53] <dsirijus> (i'm a little cross-poster, here's my snout, oink, oink...)
[10:53] <Papa-Smurf> ok
[10:53] <pengw> !fedora
[10:53] <WeissLehrer> sacarlson: Im running 11.10
[10:54] <dsirijus> this issue is what i have - http://askubuntu.com/questions/126673/black-line-across-top-of-display-in-virtualbox-guest
[10:54] <dsirijus> though, no solution there
[10:54] <DigitalFlux> Hi There
[10:54] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: even in 10.04 there are parts already starting in upstart
[10:54] <Papa-Smurf> !xrandr
[10:54] <DigitalFlux> Can i have multiple instances of runcmd in my cloudinit bootstrap file ?
[10:54] <Papa-Smurf> well
[10:55] <WeissLehrer> start: Unknown job: dhclient
[10:56] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: ya I note the same as it's in something else like networking or ??
[10:57] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: so I'm not sure
[10:57] <Papa-Smurf> Is there any problem for running dual monitors to run different drivers in each card
[10:57] <gewor> may i ask some qoestions ??
[10:57] <WeissLehrer> sacarlson: if I restart networking I will be unable to connect until a classmate tell me the ip cause I'm not in the same network as the server
[10:58] <MasterOfDisaster> gewor: don't ask to ask, fire away.
[10:58] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: well don't do that then
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> Papa-Smurf:  did that with intel and nvidia once..
[10:59] <Papa-Smurf> Papa-Smurf, thanks good to know
[10:59] <gewor> oke, i just installed lubuntu 12.04 in my pc, dual boot with windows 7, everythin' after install.
[10:59] <VictorCL> I just deleted a 12G file and df  -h still shows the same empty space
[10:59] <WeissLehrer> sacarlson: well, gtg, I
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> deleted how VictorCL
[11:00] <WeissLehrer> I'll try to solve this later
[11:00] <VictorCL> rm file
[11:00] <gewor> problem is, after i type sudo apt-get purge lubuntu* and when i restart i can boot to windows, img brocken or somethin'
[11:00] <gewor> how can i fix it ??
[11:00] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: so I guess just try kill the dhclients and see if on will apear later?  I'm just guessing
[11:01] <balduin> hy, it is possible to run a real graphics card with virtualbox or qemu-kvm?
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> gewor:  why would you remove lubuntu*
[11:01] <Papa-Smurf> Whats happen if a i get the error "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility"
[11:01] <gewor> i just want to using openbox
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> gewor:  you mean you 'cant' get to windows?
[11:01] <gewor> yap
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> gewor  then just install it and select it in the login menu, no need to uninstall anything
[11:02] <gewor> and i can mouth windows partision
[11:02] <gewor> i cant
[11:02] <gewor> i mean
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> i dont see how removeing the lubuntu package is related to the windows boot issue.
[11:02] <NotSrijan> Is it a really bad idea to use chmod to gain write privilege on an ntfs partition?
[11:02] <gewor> i cant boot to windows and i cant mouth windows partision
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> what does grub/windows do when you boot windowxs
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> NotSrijan:  you cant chmod on ntfs or vfat
[11:03] <NotSrijan> Okay.
[11:04] <gewor> default grub from lubuntu
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> gewor:  check sudo blkid, and sudo fdisk -l output. see what windows partitions exist
[11:05] <gewor> so what package i must install, to make i can log/boot to windows, cz my brother is still strange to linux
[11:05] <gewor> sory for my english
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> gewor:  nothing.. the 2 are not related
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> unless you removed grub files..
[11:06] <gewor> no
[11:06] <gewor> i not remove grub
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> then nothing would boot i imagine
[11:07] <gewor> i still can log to ubuntu and my openbox
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> gewor  what's your native language?
[11:07] <gewor> i was update-grub but its dont work
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> try the commandds above.. see what windows partitions you have
[11:07] <gewor> indonesian
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> then see if you can mount them by hand
[11:08] <gewor> oke, i try latter, cz i use my netbook now
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> !id
[11:08] <maria_zk> noob here, I am trying to rsync files of a folder. all files have  nobody nogroup and I get rsync: send_files failed to open "Permission denied (13)
[11:08] <maria_zk> could someone please advise?
[11:08] <gewor> ohh
[11:09] <gewor> sory i new using this :)
[11:09] <sacarlson> maria_zk: show us the line you used to rsync with
[11:10] <gewor> no people on there
[11:11] <maria_zk> sacarlson: thank you for your reply, rsync --rsh='ssh -p204' -arv /backup auser@<myIp>:/home/auser/backups
[11:12] <WiW> How would you change a url without changing the destination?
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> WiW: like the tiny url services?
[11:13] <angs> I am using windows 7 and installed ubuntu 12.04 by wubi. however my pc works too slow since 32 bit ubuntu was installed and there were not option in wubi to select 64bit OS. So, how can I install 64 bit ubuntu addition to windows 7?
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> WiW  the l in url means location, what is it you want to do?
[11:13] <sacarlson> maria_zk: I may not be reading this correct but I see a source but no destination path
[11:13] <WiW> Isn't there some thing where only the last "http://*" is considered when a browser tries to resolve the url? So, like, yahoo.com/http://google.com will resolve to google.com?
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> angs:  whats your ram size
[11:13] <angs> 4 GB
[11:14] <angs> is there any option in wubi to select 64 bit ubuntu to install?
[11:14] <fidel> angs: i doubt running a 64bit wubi ubuntu makes it that much faster then a 32bit wubi ubuntu
[11:14] <WiW> I have a url, and I want to add characters to make a new url, but I want it to mean the same thing
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> angs you wont see much gain by 64bit. doing a full normal install would help more
[11:14] <fidel> angs: 32 vs 64bit isnt about speed in general
[11:14] <Papa-Smurf> MonkeyDust, I've got both cards working
[11:15] <Papa-Smurf> but know i get this message when doing login ""Stopping System V runlevel compatibility""
[11:15] <fidel> angs: while i never used wubi myself - i assume using wubi MAY cause more performance issues then 32 vs 64 bit - just as example
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> Papa-Smurf  great, for future reference, share with the channel how you did it
[11:15] <WiW> Dr_Willis: I want to run the same url to the tiny url service multiple times (until I get a good simple one)
[11:15] <Papa-Smurf> MonkeyDust, i think i'm now in the last step
[11:15] <maria_zk> sacarlson: ?
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> Papa-Smurf  i guess ubuntu no longer uses system V
[11:16] <angs> I mean when I use several firefox and couple terminal pages, my pc works too loud whereas, I use many programs like matlab, chrome, etc. at the same time and it works fine
[11:16] <Papa-Smurf> MonkeyDust, it does not led me to move forward
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> MonkeyDust:  its handled by a upstart scripts. i belive that sort of emulates sysv
[11:16] <fidel> angs: and why do you mix up speed, loudness and 32 vs 64bit?
[11:16] <Papa-Smurf> i did install gdm before could it be the problem?
[11:16] <angs> loudness, freezing, etc
[11:17] <angs> I should have used different word for it
[11:17] <fidel> angs: and why do you think that is a 32bit issue?
[11:17] <sacarlson> maria_zk: example just one file but need a path on both sides rsync ./bitcoin.conf.mm3TEST sacarlson@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/sacarlson/bitcoin.conf.mm3TEST
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> angs:  you want better performance - do a full normal install
[11:17] <angs> fidel: I checked it before somehow. then I saw that it is 32 bit issue
[11:17] <fidel> angs: what?
[11:18] <fidel> angs: i HEAVILY doubt being slow is a 32bit wubi effect
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> angs:  i find that doubtfull
[11:18] <fidel> its most likely a wubi effect ;)
[11:18] <sacarlson> marrusl: just like cp /from/path/  /to/path;  same for rsync /from/path/ /to/path
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> there is no 64bit wubi that i know of.
[11:18] <fidel> as wubi needs some specific settings to work - which may be far away from perfect
[11:18] <angs> my question is that is there any option to select 64 bit installation in wubi
[11:19] <fidel> angs: this will NOT solve your issue - but i give up now
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> angs there is no 64bit wubi that i know of.
[11:19] <adamk_> I just downloaded the wubi installer, went with the default options, and it's now downloading ubuntu-12.04-wubi-amd64.tar.xz
[11:19] <sacarlson> maria_zk: rsync is just like cp:  cp /from/path/  /to/path;  same for rsync /from/path/ /to/path
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> wubi :(
[11:20] <WiW> seems I can simply add as many spaces as I want before the http
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> adamk_:  could it be you are on windows 64?
[11:20] <maria_zk> sacarlson: all files have nouser and nogroup
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> wubi is worth... avoiding
[11:20] <maria_zk> should that cause problems?
[11:20] <adamk_> Dr_Willis, The machine is 64-bit but Vista on this machine is 32-bit.
[11:20] <zezom> Hi, I seem to have had a hard drive corruption where my partition /dev/sdc1 is no longer there. This is a lvm2 disk and I would like to restore the partition so that I can start to repair the lvm. If I use gparted's Create partition table feature with gpt will this erase the lvm data? I don't think it will but I don't have a back up so I only have one shot at this.
[11:21] <sacarlson> maria_zk: your user on the account must also have priv to write on the /to/path
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> adamk_:  that may get interesting...
[11:22] <sacarlson> maria_zk:  oh and your user must also have priv to read from the /from/path
[11:23] <maria_zk> sacarlson: so I guess that my user does not have read permissions on the from path
[11:23] <maria_zk> i know the other user has write permissions on the to path
[11:23] <maria_zk> can I assign read permissions to the from folder to the from user?
[11:24] <Macready> Hi. Anyone know if there's a way to view all previously purchase software in Ubuntu Software Centre?
[11:24] <sacarlson> maria_zk:  no I think you have NO /to/path to send to look at your line where is the /to/path ?
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> Macready  the software in the software centre is free
[11:25] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: not all of it!  :(
[11:25]  * MonkeyDust opens software centre
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> ...and learned something new :)
[11:26] <Macready> MonkeyDust - no, so today I bought the Humble Bundle for about $8.50 (£6 ish). 8 cool games - but would like to verify that they are all purchased properly.
[11:26] <maria_zk> sacarlson: if possible, can we assume that the rsync command has correct syntax. i know it is a very noob question, how can i have read permissions to files owned by nouser ?
[11:26] <maria_zk> also, thank you very much for your help, I really appreciate it.
[11:27] <sacarlson> maria_zk: ls -l  will show the details of ownership and read write perms
[11:28] <maria_zk> ok that's -rw-------  which means that only user nobody has read permissions.
[11:28] <maria_zk> but files are generated from a script
[11:28] <sacarlson> maria_zk: depending on the mask you might have to be a member or the nouser group
[11:29] <maria_zk> i also added the user to the nogroup
[11:29] <maria_zk> but didn;t help, since there are no group read permissions according to -rw-------  correct?
[11:29] <zykotick9> maria_zk: group has NO permission, only user has read/write
[11:29] <zykotick9> s/user/owner/
[11:29] <maria_zk> ok, this is what I thought. so how to handle that?
[11:30] <maria_zk> should I maybe create a sxript to sudo the from user then run rsync?
[11:30] <SDX> I can't seem to get the Java plugin for Firefox to work.
[11:30] <sacarlson> maria_zk: I might be wrong but that would be -rw------ that only root can read right
[11:30] <SDX> Creating a symlink to libnpjp2.so in ~/.mozilla/plugins did nothing.
[11:31] <maria_zk> well I don;t know but zykotick9 says that only nouser does
[11:31] <sacarlson> maria_zk: ya I think he's correct I'm wrong
[11:31] <maria_zk> so...
[11:31] <maria_zk> this means that only nouser and root can read this?
[11:31] <Macready> so no-one knows if it's possible to view purchase software on USC?
[11:32] <sacarlson> maria_zk: yes and since there is no nouser I guess only root can read or write it
[11:32] <maria_zk> aha
[11:33] <maria_zk> any ideas how to handle that then?
[11:35] <sacarlson> maria_zk: try add sudo to the front of your line if you have sudo privs in your account
[11:36] <sacarlson> maria_zk: note you will need sudo rights on both the source and destination path
[11:36] <zykotick9> maria_zk: is this an EXT filesystem or FAT/NTFS?
[11:37] <MasterOfDisaster> maria_zk: run chmod o+r file or use acls specific to your user. Only the superuser (root) may access all files.
[11:37] <sacarlson> maria_zk: zykotick9: has a good question
[11:38] <maria_zk> i don'k now...
[11:38] <maria_zk> acls?
[11:39] <zykotick9> maria_zk: acls = action control lists
[11:39] <MasterOfDisaster> maria_zk: run 'mount' and look at the output, what's after 'type' on the line with the FS in question?
[11:39] <zykotick9> maria_zk: i wouldn't worry about that... probably doesn't apply
[11:40] <tol> hey guys, is it possible to wake up a server behind router/NAT with wakeonlan and port forwarding?
[11:40] <Gl1d3_> Okay this question is for anyone, where would you store MAME roms? I would like for this location to be consistent with Ubuntu 12.04's filesystem and the way it is logically organized. A short rationalization would be appreciated.
[11:40] <aaa> while playing Battle For Wesnoth in fullscreen, the bar at the top of ubuntu hides part of the game. how can o hide it while playing (ubuntu 12.04, BfW 1.10.2)
[11:40] <maria_zk> ext
[11:41] <aaa> while playing Battle For Wesnoth in fullscreen, the bar at the top of ubuntu hides part of the game. how can o hide it while playing (ubuntu 12.04, BfW 1.10.2)?
[11:41] <zykotick9> Gl1d3_: a subdirectory under /srv would makes sense as far as file system hierarchy is conserned... or home directory (if only one user will use them)
[11:42] <maria_zk> should I write a script that first changes all files to o+x then rsync?
[11:42] <maria_zk> does this make sense?
[11:42] <railsraider> any one know how to fix this error: "net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_udp_timeout" is an unknown key , how do i add this module? I am running off of rackspace
[11:43] <MasterOfDisaster> Gl1d3_: I'd pick a location where apt would steer clear of - what about /opt/mame-roms?
[11:44] <zykotick9> Gl1d3_: nothing wrong with what MasterOfDisaster just suggested, but /opt is "typically" used for programs, not files/libraries
[11:44] <sacarlson> maria_zk: can you locally copy any files in that directory  like cp ./thisfile  ./thatfile ?  maybe you have read priv for nouser
[11:44] <railsraider> do i need to install contrack_tools?
[11:45] <aaa> while playing Battle For Wesnoth in fullscreen, the bar at the top of ubuntu hides part of the game. how can i hide it while playing? (ubuntu 12.04, BfW 1.10.2)
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> !patience| aaa
[11:45] <sacarlson> maria_zk: but your chmod idea might be a solution
[11:45] <PriceChild> Are there any known gotchas with Ubuntu 12.04 and dual booting? I cannot prevent myself getting dumped to 'grub rescue>' on a dual boot setup. The alternate installed guides me into / on a logical ext4 partition. Is that an issue?
[11:46] <PriceChild> *installer
[11:46] <maria_zk> sacarlson: i created a file and cp it in the backup folder
[11:46] <maria_zk> yes, i can do that
[11:46] <maria_zk> -rw-r--r--  1 nobody nogroup         2 Jun 14 13:45 tmp.txt
[11:47] <zykotick9> maria_zk: notice that the tmp.txt has read for owner/group/other, very different from -rw---------
[11:47] <maria_zk> yes
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> PriceChild: thats typical setup
[11:48] <sacarlson> maria_zk: so you must have created the file you didn't copy it
[11:48] <PriceChild> Dr_Willis: arg so why is this not working :p
[11:48] <maria_zk> yes
[11:48] <PriceChild> The error is 'cannot read filesystem' iirc.
[11:48] <PriceChild> ls (hd0,msdos5) etc. fail
[11:48] <sacarlson> maria_zk: copy a file that already exist that you plan to rsync to another file name
[11:49] <sacarlson> maria_zk: or just open one in an editor to prove you have read priv
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> yry the boot repair tool yet PriceChild  hmm
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> try
[11:50] <sear> Has anyone else noticed us.archive.ubuntu.com being really flaky the last couple days?
[11:50] <PriceChild> Dr_Willis: no luck
[11:51] <Gl1d3_> zykotick9: I'm looking at putting it under /srv. I'm going to read quickly about the file system hierarchy as well.
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> been flakey for a week or so sear
[11:51] <Gl1d3_> MasterOfDisaster, Thanks for your answer as well.
[11:51] <maria_zk> sacarlson: ok i copied a file, and changed it too
[11:51] <sear> Dr_Willis: Hm.  I didn't notice until yesterday.  It was fine for me up until then.  Guess I got lucky.
[11:52] <sacarlson> maria_zk: so it's not a problem with read priv it's the original fact you have No /to/path in your rsync line
[11:52] <MasterOfDisaster> Gl1d3_: you're welcome.  How can I verify this?
[11:54] <sacarlson> maria_zk: oh I'm wrong the destination is optional in rsync so it defaults to your pwd
[11:54] <railsraider> anyone knows how to add nf_conntrack_udp ?
[11:55] <railsraider> to ubuntu 10.04?
[11:55] <zykotick9> kanha: "lsof | grep ^2290" might show you.
[11:55] <maria_zk> sacarlson: does it make sense to make a script that changes the permissions, then rsync?
[11:55] <aaa> while playing Battle For Wesnoth in fullscreen, the bar at the top of ubuntu hides part of the game. how can i hide it while playing? (ubuntu 12.04, BfW 1.10.2)
[11:55] <sacarlson> maria_zk: well if your rsync like you do what directory are you now in that you plan to rync to?
[11:56] <kanha> zykotick9: does netstat -an | grep "2290" is good choice ?
[11:56] <maria_zk> I am in backup directory and the destination is 777 backup folder
[11:56] <Shizuooo> How can I connect to Wifi Via Terminal CAuse i just upgrad from 11.10 -> 12.04 and can't find the shortcut in buttom of the screen
[11:56] <zykotick9> kanha: i don't use netstat very often (read, almost never) - but ya, that should probably work
[11:57] <kanha> zykotick9: thanks
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> Shizuooo  explore iwlist, iwconfig and wpa_supplicant
[11:57] <sacarlson> maria_zk: ok in your pwd you can touch test.txt then?
[11:58] <maria_zk> yes
[11:58] <sacarlson> maria_zk: ok and you can ssh into that source directory and read those files?
[11:58] <Shizuooo> MonkeyDust: Well already Checked iwconfig  but what is the command to connect to any acc point
[11:58] <maria_zk> those files?
[11:58] <maria_zk> i am in the source directory and I cannot read the files
[11:59] <sacarlson> maria_zk: you remote shell with rsync to another location do you have priv there?
[11:59] <maria_zk> this is the problem.
[11:59] <maria_zk> yes, I do.
[11:59] <Shizuooo> MonkeyDust: Well already Checked iwconfig  but what is the command to connect to any acc point
[11:59] <maria_zk> see, the problem is that I cannot read the files in the source directory
[11:59] <maria_zk> because of -rw------  1 nobody nogroup
[12:00] <Shizuooo> MonkeyDust: and how can i use search
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> Shizuooo  i'm not too familiar with wifi myself
[12:00] <sacarlson> maria_zk: that's what I was expecting you were doing you should have performed those test by ssh into the remote and seen if you have priv on those files with thows owners not on the local side
[12:01] <kanha>  I want to connect three computers (named A, B, C) , as if they were in an internal network, I want all of them to access the internet, via a single ethernet cable which can assign only a single ip address to one computer only.can anyone help me wid this?
[12:01] <maria_zk> sacarlson: so ssh to remote and try to read the file son the source?
[12:02] <Ashael> hi
[12:02] <sacarlson> kanha: sounds like a vpn question  openvpn
[12:02] <Shizuooo> How can i connect to wifi via termian ... Anyone ?!
[12:02] <Shizuooo> MonkeyDust: THANKS ANwat :D
[12:02] <sacarlson> maria_zk: yes that apears to be your problem on the source as you note
[12:03] <kanha> can you explain how please?
[12:03] <Shizuooo> How can i connect to wifi via termianl neeeeeeeed help
[12:03] <Ashael> i installed Gnome shell 3.4 and shell extentions tweak tool, but i can't see any of the extentions in the tweak tool shell tab. any idea?
[12:03] <sacarlson> maria_zk: same as I said copy ON THE SOURCE SIDE an already there file to another temp name just as a test
[12:04] <agc93> Ashael: what tool are you using? gnome-tweak-tool?
[12:04] <Ashael> yes
[12:04] <agc93> and have you installed any extensions yet?
[12:04] <Ashael> yes.
[12:05] <sacarlson> kanha: another posible solution is virtual lan
[12:05] <Ashael> i want to enable theme selection, but the shell tab is completely blank.
[12:05] <agc93> and when you go the to the Shell Extensions tab in Gnome Tweak Tool what do you see?
[12:05] <SkippersBoss> Shizuoo: U have read this ? www.ghacks.net/2009/04/14/connect-to-a-wireless-network-via-command-line/
[12:05] <Ashael> absolutely nothing.
[12:05] <Ashael> trying to install the extentions again i get a "already installed" message.
[12:05] <agc93> and you're sure you're logged into a GNOME 3.4 session, not a fallback or anything?
[12:05] <ventrone24> ciao
[12:05] <Ashael> hmm no. how do i check?
[12:05] <maria_zk> sacarlson: I am on the source side. and if I understand correctly, i cp <existingfile> <othername>
[12:06] <ventrone24> !list
[12:06] <kanha> sacarlson: can you please explain a little about virtual lan?
[12:06] <agc93> what does the desktop look like? what happens when you press Start?
[12:06] <maria_zk> I get permission denied
[12:06] <maria_zk> is this what you are saying, or?
[12:06] <sacarlson> kanha: as you didn't tell us what there real positions of the three systems A B C , are they on totaly different nets on wan someplace?
[12:06] <Ashael> the dash opens
[12:06] <agc93> Unity Dash or Gnome Dash?
[12:06] <Ashael> hmm how can i tell?
[12:07] <agc93> is there a vertical launcher down the left of your screen normally?
[12:07] <Ashael> yes
[12:07] <sacarlson> kanha: virtual lan would be more like they are already on the same network now but we can make them route as if they are not over virtual networks
[12:07] <Ashael> i think it's unity.
[12:07] <edgy> Hi, when I update my kernel or grub I get lots of: error: physical volume pv0 not found.
[12:07] <agc93> Yeah, it is
[12:07] <Ashael> how do i change to G3.4?
[12:07] <agc93> You need to log out, then choose GNOME from the menu, then log back in again
[12:07] <Ashael> hmm ok\
[12:08] <kanha> sacarlson: they are using same cable so they will be on same net
[12:08] <agc93> then you'll log in to GNOME instead of Unity
[12:08] <sacarlson> maria_zk: yes you don't have priv on your source
[12:08] <Ashael> i'll try that\
[12:08] <Ashael> thatnks!
[12:08] <Ashael> brb
[12:08] <sacarlson> maria_zk: maybe you can chmod on the source side?
[12:08] <mi3> hello, I installed setpppoe application so that I could manage my dsl connections, however the application turned out to be buggy, so I reverted back to the old network manager, but now it says "device not managed", and there are now 2 nm-applets instead of one, any suggestions ?
[12:09] <sacarlson> kanha: oh ok then they are now on the same net but you want the to think they are not,  that would be virtual lan then for you
[12:10] <maria_zk> sacarlson: not without sudo
[12:10] <sheena_29> hi at all
[12:10] <sacarlson> maria_zk: so you don't have sudo rights on that system?
[12:10] <sheena_29> anybody knows how can i see the output text of an /dev/pts please???
[12:10] <maria_zk> i do
[12:10] <kanha> I also want to know how to start and stop applications from running on a port?
[12:10] <sacarlson> kanha: there is tons of docs on virtual lan on linux http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-virtual-networking/index.html
[12:10] <eutheria> does anyone know if it is yet possible to force the global menu to always show?
[12:11] <maria_zk> sacarlson: those files are generated automatically. the idea is to rsync to another server on cron.
[12:11] <sacarlson> kanha: that link I gave might not be the best one
[12:11] <sacarlson> maria_zk: then have the auto script chmod them?
[12:11] <kanha> sacarlson: thanks :)
[12:12] <sheena_29> anybody knows how can i see the output text of an /dev/pts please???
[12:12] <agc93> sheena_29: where is the /dev/pts? what's being output onto it?
[12:12] <maria_zk> sacarlson: should I write a script to chmod them first then rsync?
[12:12] <sacarlson> maria_zk: note it might be that the source is not on an ext partition check if it's not ntfs with mount
[12:13] <sheena_29> agc93 i have an application running in background, writing in /dev/pts/3
[12:14] <sheena_29> and, i´m unable to access this
[12:14] <maria_zk> sacarlson: you are right, it is nfs
[12:14] <sheena_29> :(
[12:14] <maria_zk> so what changes?
[12:14] <zykotick9> maria_zk: nfs or ntfs?  very different.
[12:14] <sacarlson> maria_zk: you must mean ntfs not nfs so you can't change users on ntfs
[12:15] <sacarlson> maria_zk: and you can't change permisions
[12:15] <sacarlson> maria_zk: you can force what they are set to at mount time of the ntfs partition
[12:15] <maria_zk> <IP_ADDRESS>:/export/user/www on /var/www type nfs (rw,hard,intr,addr=<IP_ADDRESS>)
[12:15] <sheena_29> agc93: i have an application running in background, writing in /dev/pts/3
[12:15] <sheena_29> agc93: and, i´m unable to access this
[12:16] <agc93> sheena_29: okay, thats odd. I'm not too sure. Gimme a sec, Ill see what mine does
[12:16] <sacarlson> maria_zk: oh ok nfs should still be changeable but I guess that also depends on what it remotely connects to as nfs is a remote connection to another system
[12:16] <sheena_29> agc93: thank u very much
[12:17] <agc93> sheena_29: what happens when you try from a terminal: cat < /dev/pts/3
[12:17] <Ashael> hmf
[12:17] <agc93> you may need to sudo
[12:17] <sheena_29> agc93: nothing... : (
[12:17] <Ashael> agc93: i logged back in and now i see no menu...
[12:17] <maria_zk> sacarlson: my head will explode :D
[12:17] <sacarlson> maria_zk: instead of guessing I guess you will just have to try to change something chmod or chown on that
[12:18] <agc93> Ashael: what do you mean no menu?
[12:18] <agc93> sheena_29: then I'm honestly not sure. Either try here again later or see what Google can tell you?
[12:18] <sheena_29> agc93: ok, thank u anyway
[12:19] <Ashael> agc93: all i see is the icons on the desktop.
[12:19] <agc93> Ashael: and is there a black bar across the top of the screen with icons on it?
[12:19] <Ashael> no.
[12:19] <kanha> I am using a system running Ubuntu 11.10. I have a C program's executable, but I want it to execute automatically during startup and also in the background. How do I do this?
[12:19] <agc93> Ashael: and when you press the Super/Windows key?
[12:20] <Ashael> i may have logged back in wrong. how do i log off again without the top bar?
[12:20] <Ashael> nothing.
[12:20] <agc93> Try Alt-F2
[12:20] <kanha> Ashael: try ctrl+alt+L
[12:20] <agc93> kanha: won't that lock the session?
[12:20] <sacarlson> kanha: you could start it from cron with @reboot  or setup a upstart
[12:22] <danileigh79> Is anyone else having trouble with update manager right now?
[12:22] <Ashael> alt+f2 didn't work, ctrl+alt+l locked the session but didn't give a log-off option, or at least when i switched users nothing changed.
[12:22] <kanha> agc93: it will provide an option to switch between users
[12:22] <agc93> Ashael: how did you install GNOME?
[12:23] <Ashael> agc93: from the terminal
[12:23] <agc93> Ashael: I mean, with what commands?
[12:23] <Ashael> sudo apt-get
[12:24] <Ashael> install
[12:24] <agc93> Ashael: what came after apt-get?
[12:24] <agc93> after install
[12:24] <Ashael> one moment
[12:24] <agc93> did you just do sudo apt-get install gnome-shell?
[12:24] <Ashael> yes.
[12:24] <agc93> Ashael: try this. Press Ctrl-Alt-F1. This should kick you back to a terminal screen. Now type sudo service lightdm stop
[12:25] <agc93> then sudo service lightdm start
[12:25] <agc93> and then it should take you back to the GUI
[12:25] <agc93> if not, try pressing Ctrl-Alt-F7, or just reboot it (last resort)
[12:28] <Ashael> oops
[12:28] <Ashael> agc93: care to repeat those commands? i thought it would open a terminal, it kicked me completely off and i wasn't prepared
[12:34] <zykotick9> agc93: just an FYI, but ctrl+alt+FKEY is only required in Xorg, just alt+FKEY or alt+LorR-ARROW in VTs is required
[12:35] <sulaiman> Hi
[12:38] <sulaiman> apt-get tells me that imagemagick is already installed, but when I try to execute it my system tells me it wasn't found
[12:39] <Ashael> agc93: success!
[12:39] <adamk> sulaiman: Exactly what command are you running?
[12:39] <sulaiman> adamk, imagemagick
[12:39] <adamk> dpkg -L imagemagick | grep bin
[12:40] <Tux> sulaiman, the command is "convert"
[12:40] <adamk> That will list all binaries.  As you can see, imagemagick is not a binary.  It's just the name of the program.
[12:40] <adamk> There are various binaries in the imagemagick package.
[12:40] <agc93> Ashael: good to know!
[12:40] <sulaiman> Thanks Tux, adamk!
[12:41] <Ashael> agc93: now, how do i install a theme from a tar.gz?
[12:41] <Ashael> wb
[12:41] <agc93> just had my own laptop problems. :P
[12:41] <sulaiman> I didn't know about dpgk -L, really useful
[12:41] <Ashael> agc93: you're awesome and thank you.
[12:42] <agc93> Ashael: no problem. Happy to help!
[12:42] <Ashael> so, um, how do i install a theme from a tar.gz?
[12:42] <Dj_FlyBy> is there a way to disable the FGLRX driver from the livecd???  I enabled it on a fresh install of 10.04 and now Ubuntu won't start (Hangs on loading). System worked perfectly fine before I enabled the driver.
[12:43] <Zally666> Recovery console?
[12:44] <agc93> Recovery console should work if you go in and change/create /etc/X11/xorg.conf on the actual install to be a different driver like glx or something
[12:44] <serverboy> is ther anyone figured out how to install gtranslate on ubuntu 12?
[12:45] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, i will create a ad-hoc on my system but first i want to known if i can use WPA2 and if is possible to monitor failed attempts to my network...
[12:47] <Zally666> Wireshark?
[12:48] <Ashael> agc93: how do i install a theme from a tar.gz?
[12:49] <conley> What causes the colors in Ubuntu's vim to look different than other distros? Vim is using the default theme
[12:49] <tiredofthis> someone plz help me
[12:49] <tiredofthis> my ubuntu 12.04 can't seem to find anything
[12:49] <alankila> conley: the terminal emulator most likely
[12:50] <conley> alankila: Right, so where would the config files be for the terminal? I don't have an .Xresources file or anything of that sort
[12:50] <alankila> conley: vim uses the 16 xterm colors available to it, but doesn't actually specify how they appear.  Isn't linux supposed to know where the file is, or do I have to point it to the exact place of the file?
[12:50] <alankila> conley: you're on the wrong channel then
[12:51] <bieb> jrib: you here?
[12:51] <conley> alankila: No, they use .Xresources :) I'm on Ubuntu trying to extract the colors :)
[12:51] <adamk> tiredofthis: If you are trying to run a program, it either needs to be in your users $PATH or you need to specify the full path to the program.
[12:51] <tiredofthis> I downloaded iron-linux.tar.gz, it's sitting on the desktop of ubuntu but sudo mv iron-linux.tar.gz /opt/ doesn't give me anything
[12:51] <alankila> conley: you sure they use xresources? I mean, you practically have to be using xterm for your terminal emulator in that case, but most people don't use it because it uses those pixel fonts instead of truetype ones
[12:52] <tiredofthis> how do i specify the full path?
[12:52] <tiredofthis> isn't it something like desktop/iron folder/
[12:52] <adamk> tiredofthis: "doesn't give me anything"?  If that command succeeds, it shouldn't print out anything.
[12:53] <tiredofthis> it tells me no such file or directory
[12:53] <zykotick9> tiredofthis: try "sudo cp /home/tiredofthis/Desktop/iron-linux.tar.gz /opt"
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> tiredofthis  what's iron-linux?
[12:53] <tiredofthis> ok is the desktop inside my user?
[12:53] <tiredofthis> its a browser derived from chromium with privacy features
[12:53] <zykotick9> lol
[12:55] <tiredofthis> zykotic i get missing destination file operand after your suggestion
[12:55] <SDX> How would I go about replacing PulseAudio with ALSA in Xubuntu?
[12:56] <zykotick9> SDX: pulse requires alsa - they aren't the same thing at all.  pulse replaces esd
[12:56] <SDX> Oh.
[12:56] <nannes> !broadcom
[12:56] <SDX> That would explain the lack of Google results.
[12:56] <kanha>  Does apache always runs as root user; if so how to set it to run as user “xyz”?
[12:57] <Dj_FlyBy> Zally666, it doesn't seem to want to load the menu so I can boot into recovery.
[12:57] <ikonia> kanha: it never runs as root
[12:57] <ikonia> kanha: not in a default ubuntu setup
[12:57] <Dj_FlyBy> no matter what I push it just goes straight to loading Ubuntu
[12:57] <llutz_> kanha: it starts as root, forks to www-data then after binding to port 80
[12:58] <llutz_> kanha: and it has an config option to define as which user/group it runs in apache-config
[12:58] <kanha> where can i find this apache-config?
[12:59] <llutz_> kanha: /etc/apache2/....
[12:59] <tiredofthis> zychotic why do u think i get missing operand after your sggestion?
[12:59] <kanha> thanks llutz_
[12:59] <Chuck_Norris> aloha all :D
[12:59] <Chuck_Norris> *sounds of cricket*
[12:59] <tiredofthis> where can i go hurl abuse at ubuntu?
[12:59] <zykotick9> !tab > tiredofthis
[13:00] <zykotick9> tiredofthis: are there any spaces in the path names?
[13:00] <tiredofthis> what is autocompletion of nicks?
[13:01] <tiredofthis> You mean spaces in between the words of each folder?
[13:01] <zykotick9> tiredofthis: ya, have any?
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> tiredofthis  so you don't have to type them completely, some nicks are really difficult to type, like 'zykotick9' or so ;)
[13:01] <tiredofthis> at least not in theory no
[13:01] <ajones_> morning all
[13:02] <tiredofthis> but i'm not actually sure i have my path right, as there's nowhere in ubuntu i can actually see the path unlike in windows
[13:02] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: ;)  even z-y-k requires x2 tabs
[13:02] <tiredofthis> oh cool thanks MonkeyDust
[13:03] <tiredofthis> I'm pretty sure the name of my username is ubuntu32
[13:03] <tiredofthis> But I don't know where to see the full path that leads to my desktop
[13:04] <zykotick9> tiredofthis: try "cd ~/Desktop" then "pwd"
[13:06] <tiredofthis> how can i get that squiggly line before desktop?!
[13:06] <fidel> tiredofthis: that what?
[13:06] <zykotick9> tiredofthis: check top left side of keyboard, beside 1
[13:07] <fidel> oh tilde ;)
[13:07] <tiredofthis> ok i get /home/ubuntu32/Desktop
[13:07] <zykotick9> tiredofthis: and if you "ls" do you see your iron-linux thing?
[13:08] <tiredofthis> if i now type in ls
[13:08] <tiredofthis> i get a blue iron-linux a red tar.gz
[13:09] <tiredofthis> ah yes i see yes i do
[13:09] <amanthakur> hi guys
[13:09] <zykotick9> tiredofthis: try "sudo cp iron<TAB> /opt"
[13:10] <amanthakur> can anyone tell me how can i get the boot screen in ubuntu to edit the kernel parameters? i mean i want the shortcut key to pull up the menu
[13:10] <fidel> amanthakur: its E to edit on grub stage
[13:10] <llutz_> amanthakur: holding left-shift at boot, then "e"
[13:10] <fidel> if i understood you right
[13:10] <tiredofthis> it tells me ommitting directory is that good?
[13:11] <agc93> try the cp again with -r this time
[13:11] <tiredofthis> ok i think its working thanks
[13:11] <zykotick9> tiredofthis: AHH.  it's a directory.  "sudo cp -r ..."
[13:11] <agc93> that will recurse through the folders
[13:11] <tiredofthis> well im trying sudo mv following this guide now
[13:11] <tiredofthis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8511682&postcount=2
[13:11] <tiredofthis> nope still no luck
[13:12] <tiredofthis> my tar xvf iron-linux.tar.gz gives me no such file, i'll try your cp with -r
[13:12] <tiredofthis> where do i put the -r ?
[13:12] <tiredofthis> should i escape the desktop folder i seem to be in at the mo?
[13:13] <zykotick9> tiredofthis: is this a file or directory?  "ls -l"
[13:13] <tiredofthis> desktop is a directory
[13:13] <tiredofthis> oh ok one secon
[13:13] <zykotick9> tiredofthis: sorry -- continued: does it say d or - on far left.  for the file iron-linux...
[13:13] <tiredofthis> ls -1 gives me a blue line
[13:14] <tiredofthis> which means its giving me a directory i think
[13:14] <tiredofthis> that weird i seem to have erased the tar
[13:14] <amanthakur> llutz, thanks
[13:15] <zykotick9> tiredofthis: 1 != l
[13:15] <ghoti> Can anyone recommend a solid VPS provider in .au?
[13:15] <tiredofthis> anyway at the beginning I used to have both the directory and the tar, as I had extracted the tar into the desktop
[13:15] <tiredofthis> now I think I may have unpacked the tar and evaporated it
[13:15] <tiredofthis> well no, what i've done is i've sudo'd it
[13:16] <chturne> I'm looking to buy a new laptop, I don't want Windows installed (I get it for free at my uni anyway), can anyone help me find such a laptop in the UK that works well with GNU/Linux?
[13:16] <tiredofthis> but when I tried to unpack with the tar command I was told no such file or directory
[13:16] <tiredofthis> no wait, thats wrong, oh i dunno what i've done i'm useless
[13:16] <quixotedon> chturne: actually most laptop works well with Linux
[13:17] <DJones> chturne: It might be worth you join #ubuntu-uk (UK local channel) to ask that
[13:17] <tiredofthis> ghoti vps providers in australia are very expensive
[13:17] <chturne> DJones, oops. Thanks!
[13:17] <tiredofthis> try lowendbox for cheap SSH
[13:17] <SDX> How can I use Xfce's Mixer to adjust my volume instead of PulseAudio's volume control in Xubuntu?
[13:18] <dontknow> why linux is more safe? explain it with two sentences!
[13:18] <SDX> I tried #xubuntu.  No response yet.
[13:18] <tiredofthis> zykotick9 to answer you whether it says - or d, it says neither
[13:19] <agc93> dontknow: you might get a better response in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:19] <ghoti> tiredofthis: yes, but I need to find a place to host content to clients in Sydney that isn't going to get pulled across oceans.  thanks for the lowendbox pointer, I'll do some research there.
[13:19] <tiredofthis> it just gives me a blue 'iron-linux'
[13:19] <zykotick9> tiredofthis: you need to use "ls -l" to see permissions that's a lowercase L
[13:20] <tiredofthis> linux isn't more safe, i'm just being paranoid
[13:20] <tiredofthis> I mean paranoid by setting up ubuntu just because of security
[13:20] <dontknow> agc93, it looks like abandoned
[13:20] <ghoti> paranoid is good.  they really are out to get us.
[13:20] <fasta> What is the maximum possible value of fs.inotify.max_user_watches?
[13:20] <tiredofthis> ok so its lowercase ls-1 while i'm the desktop folder? that just gives me the folders and the files in the desktop
[13:21] <dontknow> ghoti, did you set selinux?
[13:21] <fasta> And what does it mean for a watch to be created? I.e. how much memory/CPU does it use?
[13:21] <ghoti> dontknow: er, no...
[13:21] <dontknow> tiredofthis, did you set selinux
[13:21] <dontknow> ghoti, i asked mistakenly
[13:24] <dontknow> silence
[13:24] <ghoti> fasta: i=`sysctl fs.inotify.max_user_watches`; i=${i##* }; while sysctl fs.inotify.max_user_watches=$i; do printf "\r%s " $i; ((i++)); done; echo ""
[13:25] <fasta> ghoti: that could take a month to run.
[13:25] <ghoti> you didn't give me a time limit.
[13:25] <fasta> ghoti: you can better binary search then.
[13:26] <fasta> ghoti: even then, it doesn't answer the question.
[13:26] <fasta> ghoti: because I asked for two functions from N, the number of watches to the amount of memory and CPU required.
[13:26] <hayden_ru> Anyone playing Humble Bundle games on Intel HD3000 on Ubuntu? How is performance?
[13:27] <sacarlson> SDX: I'm sure alsamixer would work
[13:28] <dr--willis> hayden_ru:  depends on the game I imagine.
[13:28] <ghoti> fasta: I've seen systems using fs.inotify.max_user_watches > 200000, but I don't know if there's an upper limit hard-coded.  And if there isn't one hard-coded, then the limit is flexible, and your question can't be answered here.
[13:28] <hayden_ru> dr--willis: interested in Bastion and Psychonauts :)
[13:29] <ghoti> s/flexible/soft/
[13:29] <fasta> ghoti: the default is already 2.5 times what you claim to have seen.
[13:29] <katherinem13_> Hi, I'd like to change my unity settings so that I can move windows upwards past the top bar (I have a small screen and need to do this to see the bottom of some windows).
[13:29] <katherinem13_> How can I do this?
[13:29] <fidel> hayden_ru: and those 2 dont mention hardware-requirements?
[13:29] <ghoti> fasta: what I "claim" to have seen?  gfy.
[13:29] <fidel> on the related project pages?
[13:29] <fasta> ghoti: gfy?
[13:29] <Dj_FlyBy> how does one get to the grub menu to choose the recovery options in 10.04 (I thought it was the ESC key, but that is nto working)
[13:29] <fasta> ghoti: I was just pointing out that your knowledge is out of date.
[13:29] <fasta> ghoti: no need to feel bad for being ignorant.
[13:29] <zykotick9> katherinem13_: see if holding ALT while dragging the window will allow moving past top - compiz might prevent this...
[13:29] <dr--willis> Dj_FlyBy:  try shift
[13:29] <agc93> katherinem13_ I don't think thats possible. What you can try is holding down the Alt key, then clicking and dragging on a window
[13:30] <ghoti> yet, to express that, you used words that implied that I was lying to you.  Great choice.
[13:30] <SDX> sacarlson: Thank you, sacarlson.  alsamixer worked for my purpose of muting sound from certoin speakers.
[13:30] <SDX> *certain
[13:30] <katherinem13_> zykotick9: Oh, great! That does work. Thanks.
[13:30] <fasta> ghoti: yeah, I suppose in this case the doubt expressed by the word claim was not needed.
[13:31] <fasta> ghoti: still, I wasn't there with you when you saw it :)
[13:31] <dr--willis> Katherine2046:  try alt-click and moveing it up? that used to wirk
[13:31] <tiredofthis> what is selinux?
[13:31] <ghoti> fasta: I certainly don't feel bad for ignorance.  we all have that, or we wouldn't ask question.  I feel bad about wasting time trying to help you.
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> tiredofthis  security enhanced linux
[13:31] <tiredofthis> i hate ubuntu
[13:31] <backbox> hello guys
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> tiredofthis  then dont use it
[13:31] <backbox> i love ubntu
[13:31] <tiredofthis> i'm not sure, i do know i ran all the updates
[13:32] <SDX> That's generally not a good idea in Ubuntu.
[13:32] <tiredofthis> MonkeyDust should i install selinux
[13:32] <backbox> what is you problem?
[13:32] <dr--willis> tiredofthis:   and the issue is?
[13:32] <SDX> Updates break things sometimes.
[13:32] <fasta> tiredofthis: if you want to secure your box, yes.
[13:32] <backbox> btw guys
[13:32] <tiredofthis> are the updates the reason its not working for me?
[13:32] <fasta> tiredofthis: if you want a usable system without advanced administration skills, no.
[13:32] <SDX> They could be.
[13:33] <SDX> What isn't working exactly?
[13:33] <tiredofthis> so all i should have done is install selinux, encrypt the ubuntu and thats it?
[13:33] <sacarlson> tiredofthis: simple secreet is if it works don't fix it.  don't upgrade unless you have to
[13:33] <backbox> me adn my brother were arguing about Windows vs Lunix password file security
[13:33] <fasta> tiredofthis: encryption and selinux are unrelated.
[13:33] <fasta> tiredofthis: disk encryption in this case.
[13:33] <backbox> i mean ntvlm and the free bsd md5 hashing
[13:34] <tiredofthis> well if i'm going into this much trouble installing iron i can only imagine the issues i'll run into when i try to install bitcoin and bitcoin armoury
[13:34] <fasta> tiredofthis: iron?
[13:34] <fasta> tiredofthis: the browser?
[13:34] <tiredofthis> actually i also failed at trying to install bitcoin the other day on this ubuntu i'm a TOTAL failure at ubuntu
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> tiredofthis  use chromium, it's in the repos
[13:34] <dantix1> hi all
[13:34] <tiredofthis> but its also because ubuntu isnt friendly AT ALL
[13:34] <fasta> tiredofthis: iron is a broken browser.
[13:34] <tiredofthis> yes iron the browser
[13:34] <agc93> MonkeyDust: he apparently needs the security of Iron
[13:34] <tiredofthis> that bad?
[13:34] <tiredofthis> i'd heard good things
[13:34] <fasta> tiredofthis: it's insecure out of the box.
[13:34] <sacarlson> tiredofthis: wow bitcoin I wrote multicoin a branch of bitcoin
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> tiredofthis  it's friendly to me
[13:35] <tiredofthis> so what browser is secure
[13:35] <darkblue_b> hi all - I just created a new Ubuntu-Server 12.4 VM. I wanted to look at nginx, so I instaled nginx, then I wanted to get rid of nginx, so I did apt-get remove nginx; guess what ? it is still there, still running
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> tiredofthis  internet is not secure
[13:35] <agc93> any browser on a sufficiently secure system :P
[13:35] <fasta> tiredofthis: only latest chrome for the chrome family.
[13:35] <tiredofthis> it treats me badly doesnt even let me see where the directories are
[13:35] <tiredofthis> all the commands take days to learn
[13:35] <tiredofthis> when i'm not in a chatroom i'm waiting for answers in forums
[13:35] <fasta> tiredofthis: read a book.
[13:35] <OerHeks> tiredofthis bla bla bla
[13:35] <agc93> tiredofthis: anything new takes time to learn
[13:35] <darkblue_b> so I installed aptitiude, installed again with apttude and then purged, and guess what - nginx is si still there and *still runing* after a erboot too ?!!?
[13:35] <fasta> tiredofthis: then you aren't dependent on lesser beings.
[13:35] <dr--willis> books are good.
[13:36] <tiredofthis> why ubuntu isn't gui installer friendly beats me
[13:36] <backbox> so guys
[13:36] <dantix1> I have a netbook running lucid and at the skype's camera test the image is head down, say flip vertically
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> tiredofthis  please take that discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:36] <backbox> the shadow file encryption
[13:36] <agc93> tiredofthis: it is a gui installer. It works fine for me
[13:36] <dr--willis> vague ramblings are vague
[13:36] <backbox> is there any way to make more secure
[13:36] <pandu> ini budi, budi bermain bola
[13:36] <pandu> :3
[13:37] <SDX> Firefox with NoScript, FlashBlock, and Ghostery is quite secure.
[13:37] <tiredofthis> yeah but im a disaster at it, although its also the fault of linux, i remember earlier this year breaking my centos server half a dozen times
[13:37] <dantix1> anybody faced with this problem?
[13:37] <dr--willis> dantix1:  I use webcamstudio for effects like that
[13:37] <angs> I use ubuntu 12.04 and get the following error for the code that I am executing in here http://pastebin.com/aMBL0pd0 what is wrong with it? I already installed linaro-image-tools and live-build by apt-get install ...
[13:37] <darkblue_b> aside from being in incredulous, how do I get rid of nginx now?
[13:38] <SDX> Granted you don't add every website you've ever heard of to to your whitelist, of course.
[13:38] <dantix1> dr--willis: but my problem is that skype filps the image.
[13:38] <pandu> saya pikir skype itu bagus
[13:38] <pandu> :3
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> well, that's lame, windows doesnt read .ogg
[13:39] <dr--willis> dantix1:  could use webcam studio to flip it back. ;)
[13:39] <morsnowski> pandu, do you have a support question?
[13:39] <pandu> yes I do
[13:39] <katherinem13_> Next question: How can I make xterm always start maximized when launched from the Unity launcher? This is a netbook, so actually it would be nice if I could have all windows maximize automatically.
[13:39] <backbox> not that kind of security i need
[13:39] <dustinspringman> anyone know of a viewer for MS visio?
[13:39] <pandu> kamu tau ini apa morsnowski ?
[13:39] <backbox> i need to improve local passwd and shadow security
[13:40] <dantix1> dr--willis: understood...thanks
[13:40] <despoena> hi guys im getting an error on ubuntu 12.04 that says Home Directory /home/dottie not ours how can i fix this
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> dustinspringman  what's ms visio?
[13:40] <fidel> pandu: this channel is english - what language are you looking for?
[13:40] <compdoc> dustinspringman, not for linux
[13:41] <dustinspringman> compdoc: lame..
[13:41] <dustinspringman> thnx
[13:42] <despoena> my audio isnt working and when searching for a solution i found that pulseaudio requires access to the home directory something obviously changed my permissions and it could be the main factor in my audio problems
[13:42] <despoena> i read that i just need to change owner and group id on the home folder but dont know how to do so
[13:42] <compdoc> dustinspringman, have you tried Firefox Visio Viewer?
[13:43] <dustinspringman> ooh, good idea
[13:44] <jawal> salut
[13:44] <backbox> alsamixr
[13:44] <angs> how can I install .deb file?
[13:44] <tol> despoena: chown -R owner:group, but be careful with it
[13:44] <despoena> tol, careful ?
[13:44] <tol> angs: dpkg -i file
[13:44] <dr--willis> !permissions
[13:45] <WeissLehrer> there is something wrong with my dhclient, /var/lib/dhcp3/ does not exist tought it seems to be using that path to the leases file
[13:45] <tol> despoena: -R means recursive for all files/folders
[13:45] <WeissLehrer> there is something wrong with my dhclient, /var/lib/dhcp3/ does not exist tought it seems to be using that path to the leases file, sacarlson
[13:45] <despoena> tol, ok do i need to change owner:group to anything or keep it as is
[13:45] <WeissLehrer> ops
[13:45] <dustinspringman> compdoc: looks like that will do it, thanks!
[13:45] <compdoc> cool
[13:46] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: I thought that dir was only needed if you run the dhcpd  the dhcp server
[13:46] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: oh and in 12.04 the path has changed to /etc/dhcp
[13:46] <angs> tol: thank you
[13:46] <despoena> tol, getting chown: missing operand after `owner:group'
[13:47] <WeissLehrer> sacarlson: I use 11.10
[13:48] <WeissLehrer> but the lease file exist in /var/lib/dhcp/
[13:48] <WeissLehrer> but the client is looking for /var/lib/dhcp3
[13:49] <WeissLehrer> maybe I could symlink dhcp3 to dhcp ?
[13:49] <katherinem13_> So... can I make xterm start maximized when launched from the Unity launcher?
[13:51] <dr--willis> Katherine2046:  give xterm a size argument us one way. or use compiz window rules plugin. or try devilspie
[13:51] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: yes so is my other server and it has changed the path name to /etc/dhcp and the restart name also to isc-dhcp or something
[13:51] <tomastein> can someone help me with geoip on ubuntu? the package was installed correctly but I can't make it work
[13:51] <tomastein> is it the correct place?
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> !find geoip
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> tomastein  seems to be apache/php, their channels may be more suited
[13:53] <backbox> tomastin
[13:53] <katherinem13_> dr--willis: What to I have to do to get a control panel for the windows rules plugin? I didn't see it in the system settings by default.
[13:54] <backbox> wipe hard drive then re-install
[13:54] <tomastein> all these are different geoip channels?
[13:54] <blake> hellow everyone. im currently having an issue on shutting down my laptop when its running on the battery everytime when i go to shut down it just restarts my laptop, but when my laptop is plugged in it shuts down fine
[13:54] <dr--willis> Katherine2046:  its a ccsm setting I recall. nit on a ubuntu box to look right now
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> tomastein  better ask in #apache
[13:55] <katherinem13_> dr--willis, okay, I'll try installing ccsm.
[13:55] <dr--willis> a ccsm plugin setting. in the rules plugin
[13:55] <backbox> install pwnOS
[13:55] <backbox> bypas
[13:55] <backbox> th passwd
[13:56] <dr--willis> backbox:  huh?
[13:56] <bazhang> backbox, pardon?
[13:57] <Nytelife> konboot would work for pw bypass
[13:57] <Nytelife> nm im stoopid
[13:57] <dlopez98> ola
[13:57] <WeissLehrer> sacarlson: so would it be creating a symlink a possible workaround?
[13:57] <dlopez98> okei
[13:58] <Guest86925> Hello, I have a little question (i'm not english, sorry for the stranges sentences)
[13:58] <blake> hellow everyone. im currently having an issue on shutting down my laptop when its running on the battery everytime when i go to shut down it just restarts my laptop, but when my laptop is plugged in it shuts down fine
[13:58] <dlopez98> fandango
[13:58] <WeissLehrer> !question Guest86925
[13:58] <Guest86925> I want to format de windows partition on the dual boot, how I can prepare to it before format?
[13:59] <WeissLehrer> !ask Guest86925
[13:59] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: what app is looking there?  maybe the upgrade messed up and still looks in the wrong place
[13:59] <dr--willis> aezaerth:  gparted tool is handy
[13:59] <Nytelife> •blake• try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/144559/my-notebook-cant-poweroff-normally-on-battery
[13:59] <WeissLehrer> sacarlson: dhclient3
[13:59] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: do you see the directory that I spoke of?
[14:00] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: look at the path to that file dhclient3 where is it from
[14:00] <aesmile> Fiouuu, all nickname is registered ^^
[14:00] <WeissLehrer> sacarlson: /var/lib/dhcp/ exist but the data from 'htop' makes me belive it is searching for the unexistent /var/lib/dhcp3/
[14:00] <aesmile> gparted, in RIP or Knoppix you think?
[14:00] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dhcp3/+bug/38140
[14:01] <aesmile> Because, if I format, I don't have an access at my ubuntu partition
[14:01] <dr--willis> aesmile:  any gparted.
[14:01] <aesmile> But for the grub, sorry I don't precise
[14:01] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: oh this is back in 2006 didn't they fix this?
[14:01] <dr--willis> aesmile: your details are lacking. :)
[14:01] <Fawzib> anyone works with ZFS here? have a question
[14:02] <WeissLehrer> dhclient3 -e IF_METRIC=100 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases -1 eth0
[14:02] <aesmile> For find again a menu on the boot. :/
[14:02] <WeissLehrer> sacarlson: the thing is it get an IP when the system start
[14:02] <WeissLehrer> on boot
[14:02] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: ya it shows it's still here in 11.10
[14:03] <aesmile> Besause in the "manual" I do it this the liveCD
[14:03] <Fawzib> question: i have a zfs pool (media) that cant import (-f does not work), so I just want to get rid of it and recreate it. how can i do that?
[14:03] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: I didn't read the whole bug report not sure there is a work around for it
[14:03] <aesmile> But I never see that on the LiveCD 11.04 :'(
[14:04] <tomwolber> evolution keeps hanging trying to receive messages...how can I quit it from CLI?
[14:05] <Meridious> tomwolber: open system monitor, and kill the process from there
[14:06] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: sounds like an if-down problem, you should be able to modify the script for if-down to be sure all dhclients are killed
[14:06] <Meridious> tomwolber: look under the processes tab, and find something that looks like evolution
[14:06] <tomwolber> Meridious: worked...thanks!
[14:06] <Meridious> tomwolber: Not a problem!
[14:07] <SkippersBoss> aesmile: something is lost in translation may ubuntu-fr could help ??
[14:07] <blake> Nyrelife  i wana say thank you for that post ive been looking for an answer to this for weeks i appreciate your help
[14:08] <__Xav92__> hi all :D
[14:08] <__Xav92__> my first words on mIRC !! :D
[14:08] <__Xav92__> :]
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> mIRC is windows
[14:08] <OerHeks> :-)
[14:08] <__Xav92__> :|
[14:08] <backbox> first words on mIC or IRC ?
[14:08] <washuu_de> Hi, are there another channel for another languages?
[14:08] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: is sounds like it's also a part of the /etc/init.d/networking script that will always keep running from upstart so seems a work around would be to disable network-manager and just run a single dhclient in your own start script
[14:08] <__Xav92__> IRC :o
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> !de
[14:09] <Myrtti> __Xav92__: did you have Ubuntu related question or problem?
[14:09] <OerHeks> washuu_de, sure
[14:09] <__Xav92__> no :[
[14:09] <__Xav92__> no :[
[14:09] <__Xav92__> oops x]
[14:09] <__Xav92__> bye all
[14:09] <backbox> does
[14:09] <washuu_de> Yep, and tnx. -de und -at
[14:11] <washuu_de> I just thought that "Hinweis" is  good.
[14:12] <washuu_de> A note to non-english speakers
[14:12] <aqert> hi over there
[14:13] <C0D3> hi
[14:15] <met12327> Greetings all! Ran a fresh install of 11.10, attempted to update security, and dpkg promptly threw a fit - just froze; followed internet-based advice (now vaued at what I paid for same) and forced kpkg to reconfig. No success. Any thoughts?
[14:15] <met12327> Should note in passing, the reconfigure did nit to improve the situation.
[14:16] <WeissLehrer> sacarlson: but the dhclient should be closed after the connection is done?
[14:16] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: did you not read the bug report
[14:17] <mi3> hello, I would like to download movies from spike.com using wget, any suggestions ?
[14:17] <Meridious> mi3 find the filepath of the movie you want
[14:17] <Meridious> and wget it
[14:17] <mi3> Meridious, and ?
[14:18] <WeissLehrer> sacarlson: the reason there was more than one dhclient is because I typed 'dhclient eth0' in the shell to see what happened, I already killed them
[14:18] <Meridious> mi3: that is basically it. What format is the movie in?
[14:18] <mi3> Meridious, I dont know, I want to grab that movie somehow
[14:18] <met12327> mi3: use firefox wi/ downloadhelper plug-in
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> mi3  are they free?
[14:18] <end_guy> mi3: type in terminal man wget
[14:19] <mi3> MonkeyDust, yes they are free, you can watch them online for free
[14:19] <mi3> MonkeyDust, but it does not open in my location :(
[14:19] <Meridious> mi3: use met12327's suggestion. Using wget for that is just more hassle than it is worth
[14:19] <mi3> met12327, will it work ?
[14:20] <Meridious> mi3: you tell us ;-)
[14:20] <mi3> Meridious, ok :D
[14:20] <met12327> mi3, I use it on youtube; never tried on spike; also run throughy avidemux to convert for dvd, then build dvd w/dvdstyler - nice litttle toolchain there
[14:22] <gsr> "aptitude why blcr-dkms" : libcr0 -> "aptitude why libcr0": blcr-util -> "aptitude why blcr-util" : blcr-dkms  ... How do I find out what installed these packages?
[14:22] <SkippersBoss> mi3: you probably need to go through a proxy in the reqion as access could be barred
[14:23] <SkippersBoss> mi3: have you got access normally to the sites videos ??
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> mi3  just checked, the films are not available in every or any country
[14:24] <mi3> SkippersBoss, I cant watch the video, since I am from India,
[14:24] <mi3> MonkeyDust, err any way to bypass that ?
[14:24] <one_men> hello everybody
[14:24] <SkippersBoss> so wget won't do you any good either
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> mi3  same here, guess not, legal policy issues
[14:25] <mi3> hmmmmmmmm
[14:25] <mi3> I really need those videos, they are nice ones
[14:26] <sourcooki> Hi this may be more of a hardware problem, but I cannot use my keyboard on my computer to select bios or in grub. It only works when I get to Windows that have on this computer as well. This is a laptop btw.
[14:26] <bazhang> mi3, thats not an ubuntu support issue
[14:26] <LordOfTime> mi3: this isnt the place to explain how to bypass policies and firewall regulations by either  corporate or ISP
[14:26] <mi3> umm ok
[14:26] <mi3> fine
[14:26] <LordOfTime> mi3: as well, its not an Ubuntu issue
[14:26] <dshoe> morning guys
[14:26] <dshoe> anyway I can change my default torrent app without having a .torrent file?
[14:26] <sourcooki> googling only really gives me a legacy usb error, that is not related to me as i dont have a usb keyboard
[14:26] <dshoe> stupid magnet links
[14:27] <met12327> sourcooki, what flavor of lappy (brand, not model)
[14:27] <sourcooki> lenovo
[14:27] <LmAt> http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/kbd/font-formats-1.html , section 1.3.  Can anyone help me decode this text?
[14:28] <LmAt> I'm having some trouble understanding it :(
[14:28] <sourcooki> it was working before, untill i just updated ubuntu
[14:28] <met12327> it's hardware, as in, there is no firmware bios; lenovo puts it on a hidden partition
[14:28] <n1kn0k> hello.
[14:28] <sourcooki> well met, it was working for about a year now untill i installed updates and went to reboot
[14:29] <Mandrillone86> ciao
[14:29] <Mandrillone86> !lista
[14:29] <met12327> sorry, sourcooki, my bad
[14:29] <n1kn0k> can someone tell me how to organize the clipart gallery in libreoffice? I can see it sorted by artist instead of theme or content ... it's so hard to search for the clipart you want to use ..
[14:30] <sourcooki> met, do you know any other channels that i can try to get some help in?
[14:30] <tiredofthis> hey guys how can i find user groups gui in unity?
[14:31] <met12327> not on irc much; sorry couldn't help more
[14:31] <bcuraboy> how can i get guayadeque integration with pidgin on my ubuntu 12.04?
[14:31] <sourcooki> it is fine, thanks
[14:32] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer: oh you didn't tell me you manualy ran dhclient to cause the problem
[14:32] <n1kn0k> anyone who can answer about libreoffice
[14:32] <WeissLehrer> sacarlson: I created another problem trying to find out what was happening
[14:33] <WeissLehrer> the problem is the leases file it looks for does not exist
[14:33] <WeissLehrer> it exist in /var/lib/dhcp/
[14:33] <WeissLehrer> but not in /var/lib/dhcp3/
[14:34] <eightiesk> hello
[14:34] <Chuck_Norris> aloha
[14:34] <eightiesk> I updated from 10.04 to 11.04 last night
[14:35] <eightiesk> I ran an update on ubuntu 10.04 to 11.04 and now i don't have a login screen what can I do on a live cd to fix this issue?
[14:35] <eightiesk> it loads to the login screen but then doesn't fully load the login screen
[14:35] <bazhang> eightiesk, to 10.10 first?
[14:35] <eightiesk> bazhang, it did auto updates
[14:36] <eightiesk> I work at a hosting company and all the workstations are running ubunut
[14:36] <eightiesk> ubuntu
[14:36] <bazhang> eightiesk, there is no one step upgrade path like that
[14:36] <paanii> hi
[14:36] <bazhang> eightiesk, unless you mean 12.04
[14:36] <paanii> i need to choose between ubuntu 12.04 and windows 7
[14:36] <LordOfTime> paanii: Ubuntu
[14:36] <LordOfTime> (we're biased that way)
[14:37] <LordOfTime> paanii: but realy, its up to your use case
[14:37] <eightiesk> how do i tell what it updated to
[14:37] <LordOfTime> what're you preferring/wanting?
[14:37] <paanii> am a graphic designer by profession
[14:37] <Chuck_Norris> paanii: ubuntu \m/-_-\m/
[14:37] <eightiesk> if i can't get into it
[14:37] <roasted> paanii: if you can't make a decision, dual boot. I've ran Ubuntu exclusively for the last 7 years nad haven't really cared to ever touch Windows again.
[14:38] <paanii> i have the dual boot but i dont want to see that boot loader screen anymore
[14:38] <Gierus> Gierus
[14:38] <paanii> just want to load one good OS
[14:38] <Chuck_Norris> paanii: what programs do you use?
[14:38] <bazhang> !version | eightiesk
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> paanii  and I guess photoshop runs well in Wine
[14:38] <eightiesk> i'm running a 10.04 live cd atm
[14:38] <Chuck_Norris> i meant for your desings
[14:38] <eightiesk> !version
[14:38] <paanii> the Adobe suite
[14:39] <bazhang> lsb_release -a  eightiesk
[14:39] <paanii> Photoshop, indesign illustrator and dreamweaver
[14:39] <roasted> Question - I know there's a few display managers out there, but I forget their names. Can anybody fire out alternatives to display managers like ARandR? I'm looking for a small, easy to use display manager to use on our work systems for users who have a laptop and hook up to a projector (just in case the hardware fn keys ever fail)
[14:39] <Chuck_Norris> MonkeyDust: ye, that's truth: http://i.imgur.com/vGHAE.png  http://i.imgur.com/uduWQ.png
[14:39] <eightiesk> brb
[14:40] <bazhang> Chuck_Norris, what is that
[14:40] <Chuck_Norris> mmm... photshop
[14:40] <diluted> oO
[14:41] <tomystein> does anyone knows about geoip and can help?
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> tomystein  have you asked in #apache or in #php ?
[14:42] <SkippersBoss> paanii: what about running a host on ubuntu and using a VM to run your adobe specific suite
[14:42] <tomystein> yep but didn't get an answer yet
[14:42] <lilred> your opinion about jQuery Mobile?
[14:43] <sacarlson> WeissLehrer:  I think that's were is should be for your version am I wrong?
[14:43] <paanii> exactly or i am thinking of even using virtualbox
[14:43] <mneptok> unless you are doing color separations for pre-press, the GIMP does everything Photoshop does. and does not require stealing or spending the cost of a heart transplant.
[14:44] <mneptok> paanii: what OS are you using now?
[14:45] <paanii> ubuntu12.04
[14:46] <mneptok> paanii: have you tried spending real time with the GIMP to see if it suits your needs?
[14:46] <paanii> not really
[14:46]  * SkippersBoss prefers Gimp
[14:46] <Pici> tomystein: What is your question about it?
[14:47] <paanii> Gimp, i only use it for file conversion like from .png to .ico
[14:47] <mneptok> paanii: an OS is just a vehicle to get you the computing tools you need. start with the question "Photoshop or the GIMP?" and move from there.
[14:47] <paanii> cos i cant get that in photoshop
[14:48] <derek_ealy_R7> Yesterday Ubuntu on my notebook prompted me to do an update, after it completed, gnome exits immediately after login and I'm returned to the login screen. I need help troubleshooting this problem, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[14:48] <mneptok> derek_ealy_R7: can you login from a TTY?
[14:48] <paanii> does the GIMP has a steep learning curve? because i have been using photoshop for like 4years now
[14:48] <agc93> check /var/log/syslog for any weird messages, perhaps?
[14:49] <agc93> Yes, GIMP has a learning curve, but shoudn't this really be in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[14:49] <derek_ealy_R7> yes, pressing ctrl+alt+f1 gets me to command line mode, where I can login
[14:49] <mneptok> paanii: it's certainly less steep if you understand image editing principles, which after 4 years i hope you do ;)
[14:49] <agc93> can you see anything odd if you run tail -n 40 /var/log/syslog ?
[14:50] <mneptok> paanii: http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-GIMP-From-Novice-Professional/dp/1430210702
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> paanii  and it depends on how skilled / smart you are
[14:50] <paanii> thanks mneptok for the link
[14:50] <derek_ealy_R7> nothing obvious in the syslog other than a warning about unable to load /etc/gdm/custom.conf
[14:50] <paanii> am fast in learnign
[14:50] <mneptok> derek_ealy_R7: if you can login via TTY, then the issue is something with X or GNOME setup. try creating a new account, and see if that account can login to the GUI.
[14:50] <paanii> learning
[14:51] <mneptok> paanii: spend 24-48 hours playing with the GIMP, and then report back here?
[14:52] <linuxnewb2> Okay i need some help.
[14:52] <mneptok> paanii: if the GIMP can replace Photoshop in your workflow, then a migration to Linux is a fairly easy decision and chore.
[14:52] <linuxnewb2> Trying to install "GPA", Can't find a source with it i guess is my issue.
[14:52] <linuxnewb2> "sudo apt-get install gpa"
[14:52] <mneptok> !info gpa
[14:52] <mneptok> linuxnewb2: there's your problem
[14:53] <linuxnewb2> Hmmm....
[14:53] <eein_> anyone know of a linux wav editor that opens files directly in their original format rather than importing them?
[14:53] <mneptok> linuxnewb2: what is "GPA?"
[14:53] <linuxnewb2> So i would need to downgrade.
[14:53] <mneptok> eein_: Audacity does not do that?
[14:53] <linuxnewb2> mneptok: from what i know it's a gui inferace for pgp
[14:54] <mneptok> linuxnewb2: "seahorse" is what you are after.
[14:54] <eein_> mneptok: no its imports it as an audacity project so it can support multitrack etc things that dont exist in mp3 flac world
[14:54] <linuxnewb2> I can use kleopatra on windoze, but jeebus.
[14:54] <linuxnewb2> mneptok: Ty.
[14:54] <ikonia> linuxnewb2: it's called "windows"
[14:54] <linuxnewb2> :P
[14:54] <mneptok> eein_: when you save in Audacity, you should be able to save as a WAV, and stuff gets muxed appropriate to the format.
[14:55] <derek_ealy_R7> well, after creating a new user it didn't exit immediately after login, however I'm stuck at a blank screen with just the desktop background image
[14:55] <eein_> mneptok: yeah too many steps, basically i need to reverse swears in music to make them radio versions.  exporting is just another step and slows things down when doing tons of songs
[14:55] <eein_> i just want to open a song reverse swears ctrl+s and be done
[14:56] <eein_> not setup a keybinding for eport then pick format yes overwrite etc
[14:56] <mneptok> eein_: maybe it's easier to hope FCC control isn't scanning you when those songs air ;)
[14:56] <roasted> Question - I want to set a keyboard shortcut to open terminal + run a command. What features do I need to cause terminal to open and then execute the command in question?
[14:56] <paanii> sure> means i have to re-fromat my HDD and do a new install of ubuntu 12.04
[14:56] <ikonia> roasted: -e
[14:57] <ikonia> roasted: it will execute what you put after -e
[14:57] <eein_> mneptok: :-) its for dj house parties its more the people im concernerd about
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> roasted  create a launcher and select "open in terminal", then assign a hotkey to it
[14:57] <ikonia> roasted: (check the flag for the syntax for your specific terminal, but most respond to -e)
[14:57] <roasted> ikonia: so if I want to run a bash script called "weather", is that to say "-e weather" is what I want?
[14:57] <mneptok> eein_: ah, the life of a private DJ. good luck. i have only ever used Audacity. sorry.
[14:57] <ikonia> roasted: if it's in the default path of the shell you launch sure, however you can do -e /usr/share/bin/weather.sh too
[14:57] <roasted> MonkeyDust: where's that at? In keyboard shortcuts?
[14:57] <roasted> ikonia: ah, gotcha. Let me try that.
[14:58] <roasted> ikonia: eh, that didn't fly. I'll read through the flags though.
[14:58] <eein_> yeah its annoying all the steps after you do a hundred or so and finding edited tracks isnt always an option
[14:58] <ikonia> roasted: what terminal are you launching ?
[14:59] <roasted> ikonia: whatever is in ubuntu *shrug*
[14:59] <ikonia> roasted: how are you launcing a terminal, you need a command, eg: xterm -e "ls"
[14:59] <roasted> ikonia: I just found a script on the forums that brings weather info through terminal. I was trying to assign it to a hot key so I can hit that, term launches, and brings up the feed instantly.
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> roasted  yes, in system settings, keyboard, shortcuts, custom
[14:59] <ikonia> roasted: yeah, you'll need to launch a terminal for it to run in though
[15:00] <roasted> MonkeyDust: there is no run in terminal function though. just name and command. Are you sure you don't mean "run in terminal" thats under a custom startup application?
[15:00] <ikonia> roasted: just tested it with xterm
[15:00] <ikonia> roasted: xterm -e top
[15:01] <ikonia> roasted: launched an xterm running top
[15:01] <agc93> so you could use gnome-terminal -e <a command here> to launch a normal terminal with a command
[15:01] <agc93> if you dont like xterm
[15:02] <roasted> ikonia: I don't believe I'm using xterm. Do you know the name for the default terminal?
[15:02] <ikonia> roasted: try uxterm -e top
[15:02] <agc93> gnome-terminal
[15:02] <ikonia> roasted: you need to know the name of the terminal you are launching, how are you lauching a terminal from the command line
[15:02] <agc93> Assuming you use GNOME and not KDE
[15:02] <roasted> agc93: well, I'm on Unity, so I would assume gnome-terminal.
[15:02] <ikonia> roasted: gnome-terminal -e top
[15:02] <roasted> gnome-terminal -e top isn't doing anything though
[15:02] <ikonia> roasted: also works
[15:02] <tanveer> QUICk question guys
[15:03] <tanveer> anyone here
[15:03] <roasted> ikonia: are you setting up a keyboard shortcut when you test these?
[15:03] <ikonia> roasted: just tested it
[15:03] <ikonia> roasted: no, just from the command line
[15:03] <polygons> agc93, hey, you were helping me last night to reinstall mysql-server.  when i reinstall, it says, can't set root password for the server, maybe one already exists.  i guess that means there's some old config files laying around?  maybe i find those and kill them, then it will work?
[15:03] <agc93> roasted: worked for me
[15:03] <roasted> ikonia: gotcha. I'm in keyboard shortcuts. Probably why we're seeing different things.
[15:03] <tanveer> Guys will Rasberry Pi get ubuntu
[15:03] <ikonia> roasted: test it on the command line, comfirm it works.....then move forward
[15:03] <roasted> but yeaht hat works fine for me if I launch in terminal
[15:03] <agc93> tanveer: eventually, probably
[15:03] <k1l_> tanveer: try #ubuntu-arm
[15:03] <tanveer> ok
[15:04] <roasted> ikonia: maybe I need to incorporate that in the script instead of in keyboard shortcuts
[15:04] <agc93> polygons: if you can find it, then that should work
[15:04] <ikonia> roasted: I'm on a modified desktop here, so I can't really test the shortcut function
[15:04] <polygons> agc93, any idea where to look?
[15:04] <agc93> sorry, nope. Never done MySQL on Ubuntu :(
[15:05] <agc93> usual places are ~/.config /usr/share /usr/local/ /etc/ and occasionally in /var/ somewhere
[15:06] <polygons> agc93, thanks!
[15:06] <roasted> ikonia: side FYI, I did a 2 part youtube screencast on Motion... posted it on the forums last night... just an FYI since we had touched base on Motion before.
[15:06] <ikonia> roasted: I'll take a look at it
[15:06] <roasted> ikonia: still pending approval last I saw, but figured I'd mention it.
[15:06] <ikonia> roasted: let me know when it's there
[15:07] <roasted> ikonia: will do
[15:08] <roasted> if I run gnome-terminal -e weather, it crashes immediately. terminal opens, but then it disappears.
[15:08] <roasted> hmm
[15:08] <ikonia> roasted: open a terminal and run terminal
[15:08] <agc93> but running weather from a newly created gnome terminal window doesn't?
[15:08] <ikonia> roasted: does it work
[15:08] <ikonia> roasted: is it something that runs then exits
[15:09] <angs> how can I create an executable shell script? create a file with nano/vi then paste the code then chmod +x the file?
[15:09] <ikonia> or something that runs and stays active (like top)
[15:09] <ikonia> angs: that's it
[15:09] <roasted> ikonia: I had a terminal open when I ran gnome-terminal -e weather
[15:09] <angs> ikonia: thank you
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> strangely, my local pc sees my remotely mounted usb disk, when I use sftp, but not when I use nfs
[15:09] <agc93> roasted: if you open a terminal window at / and then run weather, does it work?
[15:09] <roasted> yes
[15:10] <agc93> is weather a one-time command or a recurring screen?
[15:10] <WeissLehrer> sacarlson: I'm not sure
[15:10] <roasted> agc93: it's a long command I found on forums.      curl -s "http://api.wunderground.com/auto/wui/geo/ForecastXML/index.xml?query=${@:-?????}"|perl -ne '/<title>([^<]+)/&&printf "%s: ",$1;/<fcttext>([^<]+)/&&print $1,"\n " ' | fmt -t;
[15:10] <roasted> agc93: with the ????? being where you put the zip code