[11:17] <Sonderblade> what do i need to setup to get backports from drapper into ubuntu?
[11:17] <crimsun> Kimppa: did you ''sync''?
[11:17] <Sonderblade> into breezy
[11:17] <ryan_> i think that i know what's happening
[11:17] <intelikey> well i'm not going to install ub again just to see.
[11:17] <oskude> boo, write "fglrx" instead of "ati" in your xorg.conf and reboot xserver
[11:17] <Fujitsu> Sonderblade: Make sure that you have disabled repos visible, and they should be there as options in repo selection
[11:17] <ajmitch> Kimppa: the file was most likely still opened by a program - especially if it was a log file
[11:18] <ryan_> i'm editing it with sudo gedit sources.list
[11:18] <boo> i did
[11:18] <ryan_> and it isn't saving what i am doing
[11:18] <Kimppa> crimsun: nope?
[11:18] <oskude> ryan_, hmm
[11:18] <Seveas> stupid freenode
[11:18] <topyli> intelikey: i used mandrake for years. release after release, i ended up disabling supermount. it's a complete dog
[11:18] <Seveas> bans come back after removing them
[11:18] <Sonderblade> Fujitsu: disabled repos visible? where do i change that?
[11:18] <Kimppa> ajmitch: it was a .zip file, but it shouldn't be opened anywhere...
[11:18] <oskude> boo, so wheres the problem ?
[11:18] <boo> i dont know where to get tv out?
[11:19] <Sonderblade> Fujitsu: and why is backports disabled? sounds strange
[11:19] <eliphas_> well i did cat /etc/resolv.conf and I have only the nameserver 192.168.xx.xx
[11:19] <intelikey> topyli in 10 it works pretty good.
[11:19] <eliphas_> and on ly laptop the same
[11:19] <eliphas_> so well
[11:19] <eliphas_> Y?
[11:19] <intelikey> in eariler releases i agree
[11:19] <oskude> ryan_, try editing with "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" you can paste with shift-ins and alt-x for exit (it asks y for saving)
[11:19] <Seveas> boo, fireglcontrol
[11:19] <ldy> Hi all
[11:19] <topyli> intelikey: oh. i don't think i ever had 10. was with debian by then
[11:19] <Fujitsu> Sonderblade: In Synaptic, Settings->Repositories->Settings->Show Disabled Software Sources.
[11:19] <mcphail> eliphas_: change the address to your _actual_ nameserver rather than your router
[11:19] <james__> hi
[11:20] <ldy> Anyone can tell me a source for mplayer+w32codecs?
[11:20] <Fujitsu> You should then see an entry for breezy-backports.
[11:20] <boo> command not found
[11:20] <oskude> boo, hmm, i had a "ati button" in bottom of "applications" menu on the gnome-panel...
[11:20] <topyli> intelikey: urpmi goodness taught me that the debian way is the easy way for adminning a linux box :)
[11:20] <Sonderblade> Fujitsu: thanks, can you tell me why it is disabled by default?
[11:20] <james__> www.frontlinetech.blogspot.com
[11:20] <boo> im not that lucky :P
[11:20] <mcphail> eliphas_: my belkin router often messes up DNS
[11:20] <Fujitsu> Sonderblade: Not everybody wants the cutting-edge, possibly unstable software!
[11:21] <oskude> boo, but could be that it was on hoary with an older ati driver :)
[11:21] <eliphas_> ok here i have a lynksys
[11:21] <Sonderblade> Fujitsu: i thought backports was only for bugfixes?
[11:21] <oskude> boo, and you didnt find anything on ubuntuforums with ati tv-out, or something like that ?
[11:21] <intelikey> yeah topyli if i had not used 10 i'd totaly agree, but i have 10 and supermount works like an old DOS system.  it doesn't care if floppy is there or not it mounts on each read/write and umounts as soon as it syncs.
[11:21] <Seveas> Sonderblade, no
[11:21] <ryan_> oskuda, it seems like it saved it now let me try apt-get again
[11:21] <boo> nope
[11:21] <Seveas> that's what -updates and -security are for
[11:22] <oskude> boo, hmm
[11:22] <mcphail> eliphas_: yes, but try changing the address in /etc/resolv.conf to your ISP's DNS
[11:22] <ryan_> no luck... strange
[11:23] <oskude> ryan_, if you now open the sources.list, are the changes there ?
[11:23] <eliphas_> ok i will try that thanks
[11:23] <boo> i guess what im looking for is the equivilant of ati control panel (or the advanced tab of displays) in windows
[11:23] <eliphas_> keep you upat eon it
[11:23] <jamyskis> morning everybody
[11:23] <Sonderblade> Seveas: are you sure? Cause there was an extremely important bugfix in -backports that i couldn't find in -updates
[11:23] <ryan_> yes the changes are there
[11:23] <foolswisdom> i am fairly excited I posted my 1st bounty, https://launchpad.net/bounties/all-linux-for-humans
[11:23] <Seveas> Sonderblade, maybe the complete update it was in was not suitable for -updates
[11:24] <oskude> ryan_, post one more time that changed sources.list in pastebin :)
[11:24] <ryan_> ok
[11:24] <Seveas> foolswisdom, do not abuse launchpad for such crap
[11:24] <YukiIkyuta> foolswisdom: x_____x
[11:24] <foolswisdom> how is that abuse or crap
[11:24] <oskude> boo, yould be that the "control panel" is not anymore included in fglrx things...
[11:24] <foolswisdom> my money is good
[11:24] <ryan_> oh wait a sec.....
[11:24] <Seveas> it's abuse because it's crap
[11:24] <ryan_> you told me to change breezy-backports to breezy right?
[11:25] <oskude> boo, but theres a way to edit the xorg.conf to activate tvout... i think...
[11:25] <Seveas> this is not something for a bounty but maybe for discussioin on ubuntu-devel
[11:25] <oskude> ryan_, yup
[11:25] <ryan_> ok that never got saved let me do that
[11:25] <oskude> ryan_, roger
[11:25] <ajmitch> Seveas: mind pasting the bounty details to me in /query ? :)
[11:25] <olicat> hi all. does anyone know if OpenOffice impress can print out 2 slides per page, with the slides below one another?
[11:26] <Sonderblade> Seveas: it was this bug: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17562 it is very strange that you shouldn't be able to get it fixed without having to live on the cutting edge
[11:26] <Seveas> Sonderblade, ah that one :)
[11:26] <topyli> intelikey: that's how supermount was always supposed to work. seems they finally got it working :)
[11:26] <ryan_> oskuda you are my hero
[11:26] <topyli> intelikey: mind you, for some people, on some systems, it always worked well
[11:26] <Seveas> Sonderblade, afaik there were very good reasons not to put it in -updates, but I forgot them :)
[11:27] <intelikey> foolswisdom if i had it right now i'd add another $20 to that :)
[11:27] <ryan_> You have prevented a newbie linux user from throwing his laptop through a window
[11:27] <intelikey> topyli yeah but until 10 it didn't for me.
[11:27] <foolswisdom> it really does almost stop me from using ubunutu, maybe I want pay it any time soon... .but I look forward to paying it
[11:27] <oskude> ryan_, patience is the key to linux ;)
[11:27] <boo> $ sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<your-kernel-version> xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:27] <boo> You probably don't need the control panel unless you are using dual monitors. If you want it add fglrx-control to the above command.    explain?
[11:28] <YukiIkyuta> boo: run that command.
[11:28] <ryan_> oskude, do you get the type to be red by typing name then comma?
[11:28] <Sonderblade> Seveas: the reason sure has to be VERY good, cause that's a freak bug
[11:28] <YukiIkyuta> Replacing <your-kernel-version> with whatever kernel you're using.
[11:28] <oskude> ryan_, yes
[11:28] <boo> i dont know my kernel vers, or where fglrx-control goes
[11:28] <jamyskis> i thought infinite patience was the key to windows :p
[11:28] <boo> when i booted, i chose the -10 instead of -9
[11:28] <YukiIkyuta> boo: okay, one moment; type uname -a
[11:28] <ryan_> oskude, thanks for the help, wish I would've had it when I started 6 hours ago  :)
[11:28] <YukiIkyuta> and show me.
[11:28] <oskude> boo, uname -r = kernel version
[11:28] <oskude> ryan_, :) your welcome
[11:29] <boo> do i need the $
[11:29] <YukiIkyuta> boo: no, that's just showing it's a shell.
[11:29] <YukiIkyuta> boo: type ``uname -r'' and show us
[11:29] <boo> wheres does the fglrx-control go
[11:30] <boo> 2.6.12-10-386
[11:30] <YukiIkyuta> oh.
[11:30] <YukiIkyuta> fglrx-control at the end, so;
[11:30] <boo> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386  thats what i have so far
[11:30] <YukiIkyuta> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386 fglrx-control
[11:30] <YukiIkyuta> and xorg-driver-fglrx!
[11:30] <intelikey> hoary is .10 ?  breezy is .12 ?
[11:30] <YukiIkyuta> intelikey: hoary is .5, breezy .10
[11:30] <oskude> YukiIkyuta, he has the driver allready
[11:31] <YukiIkyuta> oskude: in that case, it won't fail!
[11:31] <intelikey> no YukiIkyuta kernel not month.
[11:31] <boo> oops? lol its running now
[11:31] <oskude> YukiIkyuta, true :)
[11:31] <boo> ok what command do i do now?
[11:31] <boo> to open the cp
[11:31] <YukiIkyuta> boo: try sudo fglrx-control
[11:32] <boo> ah i found it...fireglcontrol
[11:32] <_eliphas> mcphail, THANKS I added then the dns of myisp into my resolv.conf and it works
[11:32] <YukiIkyuta> Ah, it's using fire.
[11:32] <boo> whoa shit
[11:32] <oskude> boo, and after gnome-panel restart its propably in the menus
[11:32] <boo> i clicked tv out and everything went black
[11:32] <boo> doh
[11:32] <mcphail> _eliphas: excellent!
[11:32] <oskude> boo :) mine just changed to 800x600x60hz
[11:32] <_eliphas> :)
[11:32] <_eliphas> mcphail,  top man
[11:33] <boo> OMG it works siiick
[11:33] <boo> now to see if videos work...they didnt as clone on windows unless i made the tv primary
[11:35] <boo> wow
[11:35] <nelposto> hellouu team
[11:35] <boo> linux owns windows so hard
[11:36] <oskude> boo, :)
[11:36] <gsuveg> gnome 2.12.2 come out to breezy ?
[11:36] <nelposto> i'm having trouble with my network DHCP settings.. anyone able to help?
[11:36] <boo> you dont hafta play musical monitors to get tv out!
[11:36] <Fujitsu> nelposto: Fire away!
[11:36] <jamyskis> what exactly is wrong nelposto?
[11:36] <nelposto> ta
[11:36] <nelposto> So, it automagically detects my router as the DNS server
[11:36] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu: fire the main cannon! Emergency at port side! Run to the aft! SOS!
[11:36] <nelposto> which is pretty lame
[11:37] <Fujitsu> nelposto: Your router is obviously telling it to.
[11:37] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: typically that'll be your DHCP server telling ... yes.
[11:37] <boo> Is there winrar for linux
[11:37] <nelposto> because I have to go back and set my normal DNS server every 20 minutes or so, as it re updates it
[11:37] <YukiIkyuta> boo: that would make no sense. `win' rar? There is a rar program.
[11:37] <oskude> boo unrar
[11:37] <boo> :P
[11:37] <nelposto> yuck boo said the 'W' word
[11:37] <topyli> boo: no. there's rar, and the package manager works through it
[11:37] <oskude> boo, apt-cache search unrar
[11:38] <topyli> boo: specifically, you probably want unrar-nonfree from multiverse
[11:38] <boo> whats multiverse
[11:38] <nelposto> well, if I want my router to not tell it the wrong thing.. would that be under the router settings instead?
[11:38] <jamyskis> nelposto: our network does this too - i simply got around it by including our router, server and isp dns servers in the dns list
[11:38] <YukiIkyuta> boo: non-free software.
[11:38] <jamyskis> on the local machine
[11:38] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: typically!
[11:38] <boo> yuck pay?
[11:38] <topyli> boo: it's a ubuntu repository for evil non-free stuff
[11:38] <boo> whats a repository?
[11:38] <oskude> !repos
[11:38] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[11:38] <nelposto> thanks guys, let me have a look
[11:38] <topyli> boo: no. it's just non-free, as in proprietary, not open source
[11:38] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: good luck.
[11:39] <boo> oh
[11:39] <Mabus06> um can someone help me? I have the brightness on doom 3 set very high. I started in non fullscreen mode, and after I closed it my computer retained the high brightness (*is getting blinded right now*) how can I revert this?
[11:39] <boo> so i go to synapse and install unrar?
[11:39] <Sonderblade> i have pmount with the floppy fix 0.9.6-1, but ubuntu still doesn't mount floppies automagically, usb devices and cdroms work though
[11:39] <oskude> boo, repository is a place where you get those  packages to install
[11:39] <jamyskis> mabus06: Options/Brightness in the main menu? :-p
[11:39] <topyli> btw, ubotu doesn't know about easysource
[11:40] <boo> !ubotu learn easysource
[11:40] <ubotu> boo: No idea
[11:40] <oskude> boo, or from console with "sudo apt-get install unrar"
[11:40] <Mabus06> jamyskis, "main menu"?
[11:40] <nelposto> Does 'Static Routing' sound like the right section? I can choose 'new destination IP', 'Mask', 'Gateway', 'Metric' ?
[11:40] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: hmm, not quite. What kind of router do you have?
[11:40] <Zukero> hello
[11:40] <boo> so non free instead of free?
[11:40] <i386> anyone know when Xorg 7.0 is going into dapper?
[11:40] <Zukero> is there a way to have lib-xine 1.1 on ubuntu ?
[11:40] <nelposto> Yuki: Netcomm NB5 Wireless doober.. haven't worked out the wireless yet but that's for another day I think
[11:40] <oskude> boo, dunno, you may choose :)
[11:40] <Mabus06> um can someone help me? I have the brightness on doom 3 set very high. I started in non fullscreen mode, and after I closed it my computer retained the high brightness (*is getting blinded right now*) how can I revert this?
[11:40] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: typically, your router will pass on the DNS settings that it's received from the WAN. Are you sure it's set up correctly, intrinsically?
[11:40] <oskude> boo, i would try free first...
[11:41] <topyli> boo: you could get by with the free version, but some new rar archives may be packaged in an extra-evil new format
[11:41] <Mabus06> If you mean turn down the brightness in doom3... that's not even close to solving the problem if you read what I said.
[11:41] <YukiIkyuta> Zukero: try ``sudo apt-get install libxine1c2'' at a command line.
[11:41] <boo> hmm its unstalled...now what?
[11:41] <nelposto> Yuki.. I don't know much about the setup.. but in Windows it works fine dynamically
[11:41] <nelposto> I tried setting up the Static settings
[11:41] <jamyskis> Mabus06: So the problem is that the brightness stays up when you quit the game?
[11:41] <oskude> boo, unrar <file>
[11:42] <nelposto> (I have a static IP).. but I kept getting a connection refused error, or similar
[11:42] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: hmm, weird. can you show us what's in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:42] <YukiIkyuta> ?*
[11:42] <Mabus06> yes jamyskis ... well only after playing it in non fullscreen mode
[11:42] <boo> is there a shell like thing? double click and it opens a rar window
[11:42] <YukiIkyuta> Should only be 3 lines or so in there.
[11:42] <YukiIkyuta> boo: almost certainly not.
[11:42] <boo> yuck
[11:42] <topyli> boo: you can just click away
[11:42] <nelposto> Just copy/paste?
[11:42] <YukiIkyuta> Learn the command line, come on!
[11:42] <Mabus06> jamyskis, but I tried opening it in fullscreen mode and closing it again but that didn't work (works often in windoze)
[11:42] <topyli> boo: the gnome arcive manager will find unrar and use it
[11:42] <oskude> console rulez :)
[11:42] <Zukero> /topic #
[11:42] <boo> im a cal-i gamer not a typer :)
[11:42] <Zukero> sorry
[11:43] <boo> unless the commands are WASD or R i am not good at typing them
[11:43] <jamyskis> Mabus06: In that case I can't see for the moment as I don't have my Doom 3 in front of me to try and reproduce the problem...sorry
[11:43] <topyli> boo: you *will* learn the command line sooner or later once you find out how powerful the unix shell is
[11:43] <nelposto> lol boo
[11:43] <Mabus06> okay don't tell me in this room of almost 700 ubuntu users nobody knows how to undo the brightness increase doom3 did?
[11:43] <YukiIkyuta> boo: well, you're going to have to learn them some day!
[11:43] <oskude> boo, well, for helping its easier to give console commands, rather than describe mouse paths...
[11:43] <nelposto> Yuki: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:43] <nelposto> Although this gets replaced every so often by the auto detect thing
[11:43] <oskude> boo, meaning helping in text based irc chat...
[11:44] <Zukero> YukiIkyuta, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5260
[11:44] <nelposto> oh, also I'm using the Live cd right now
[11:44] <topyli> yeah, hard to send screenshot instructions of mouse clicks here
[11:44] <boo> i heard ntfs drives are read only...any chance of this changing soon?
[11:44] <YukiIkyuta> Zukero: that makes it sound like everything is fine. Does it specifically request development headers ..?
[11:44] <YukiIkyuta> boo: hopefulyl! At the moment, readonly it is.
[11:44] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: ah, I see.. that may have more limited driver support, I don't know.
[11:44] <Sonderblade> Mabus06: ctrl+alt+backspace should fix it
[11:45] <topyli> besides, finding the stuff to click from the menus and inside apps usually takes more time than writing one-liners
[11:45] <Zukero> yeah, i need version 1.1 mini to build some libs for enlightenment 17
[11:45] <nelposto> le sigh
[11:45] <boo> because counterstrike is a no go because you need to write to clientregistry.blob file :(  there any way to get around that?
[11:45] <oskude> !ntfs
[11:45] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: I doubt that's the problem, however. You could try grabbing the DNS server entries from the router configuration and placing them in resolv.conf yourself?
[11:45] <YukiIkyuta> Zukero: try installing the package libxine-dev ?
[11:45] <nelposto> I agree.. but I don't understand what you're asking me to do next?
[11:45] <Zukero> YukiIkyuta, it is installes allready
[11:46] <YukiIkyuta> Zukero: weird!
[11:46] <nelposto> the 220.233... etc value is the one that I keep putting into the network config.. it's the correct DNS address
[11:46] <Zukero> YukiIkyuta, i even try building xine-lib sources
[11:46] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: peculiar; typically there are two. Still no lookups?
[11:46] <Zukero> the only problem is version number
[11:46] <boo> .....an error occured while extracting files
[11:46] <boo> fvckpassword
[11:46] <oskude> boo, :) try non-free
[11:46] <nelposto> Yuki I don't know how to chec the lookups?
[11:47] <boo> this is nonfree
[11:47] <oskude> hups
[11:47] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: well, a better question is, what problems are you experiencing right now?
[11:47] <boo> ill try console now
[11:47] <_eliphas> what was the command to get back the console on right click in gnome?
[11:47] <topyli> boo: you went straight for non-free! to the stakes, brothers!
[11:47] <YukiIkyuta> You could try ``dig sairyx.org'' and see what it says.
[11:48] <nelposto> Yuki it's fine now, and it'll be fine till the ubuntu updates the DNS settings by taking them from the router
[11:48] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: you should be able to set the DNS server manually!
[11:48] <mcphail> nelposto: use a static address rather than dhcp
[11:48] <nelposto> Yeah.. my problem is when I did this, I got some connection refused error
[11:48] <nelposto> I'll try again just now
[11:48] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: weird; how are you doing that?
[11:49] <nelposto> network settings -> properties of eth0
[11:49] <boo> while im waiting, can someone explain to me what X is?
[11:49] <YukiIkyuta> And you get connection refused ..? Very weird.
[11:49] <musik> i get grub error 18!! plz help.......
[11:49] <YukiIkyuta> boo: X is the graphical interface.
[11:49] <oskude> boo, an upper case character ? ;)
[11:49] <YukiIkyuta> Typically you just get a completely text-only console.
[11:49] <boo> and why is numlock default off :(
[11:49] <YukiIkyuta> oskude :)!
[11:49] <musik> i get grub error 18 when i boot windows! plz help!
[11:50] <oskude> dejavu ?
[11:50] <YukiIkyuta> I think so. oO
[11:50] <YukiIkyuta> musik: more information?
[11:50] <johns^_> no, just someone without google ;)
[11:50] <boo> ok im using unrar, what do i put under <archive>
[11:51] <YukiIkyuta> (more information, eg. why are you trying to boot back into Windows!?)
[11:51] <YukiIkyuta> boo: the name of the archive!
[11:51] <YukiIkyuta> (the RAR file!)
[11:51] <boo> oh lol
[11:51] <topyli> boo: the name of the file
[11:51] <boo> um, what then for <files...>
[11:51] <oskude> boo "." or was it "*"
[11:51] <topyli> you'll get better error messages from console than from the archive manager
[11:51] <Sonderblade> why do i need root privileges for "mount -t /media/floppy" but not for "mount /media/floppy"?
[11:51] <oskude> boo, or try emtpy
[11:51] <boo> :?
[11:51] <YukiIkyuta> Sonderblade: mount -t /media/floppy isn't a valid command?
[11:51] <boo> k
[11:52] <oskude> boo, just "unrar <file>"
[11:52] <YukiIkyuta> boo: <files...> is whatever you're archiving.
[11:52] <Sonderblade> YukiIkyuta: i meant mount -t vfat /media/floppy
[11:52] <YukiIkyuta> Sonderblade: ah.. it's because you're trying to do something which isn't set up as default behaviour.
[11:52] <boo> oh, so im not archiving anything
[11:52] <Fujitsu> Yes
[11:52] <boo> im extacting?
[11:52] <YukiIkyuta> It's a security practice; the superuser can say what can and cannot be done typically, but only he can do things out of the ordinary.
[11:52] <topyli> Sonderblade: perhaps because you're using the full command and it is different from what's in fstab
[11:53] <oskude> boo, didnt "unrar <archive>" work ?
[11:53] <Fujitsu> It won't be allowing you to mount vfat... Only what is in fstab will be allowed, that is auto. You are not allowed to specify it!
[11:53] <Sonderblade> topyli: ok so its a bug?
[11:53] <YukiIkyuta> Sonderblade: no!!!
[11:53] <topyli> Sonderblade: by no means. it's a very good feature
[11:53] <azeem> Sonderblade: it is a limitation of GNU/Linux
[11:53] <topyli> Sonderblade: we don't want users mounting stuff with crazy options by mistake
[11:53] <YukiIkyuta> azeem: not a limitation at all.
[11:54] <pc22> what is the workgroup term in linux?
[11:54] <Sonderblade> but it means i cant automount floppies which are almost always in vfat
[11:54] <azeem> YukiIkyuta: well, the GNU Hurd people seem to think that, at least
[11:54] <boo> whoa console is cool
[11:54] <YukiIkyuta> pc22: there isn't such a close match.
[11:54] <boo> it says the rar text file and what rar is extracting from
[11:54] <nelpost0> reAr
[11:54] <YukiIkyuta> Sonderblade: what's the line fstab for the floppy?
[11:54] <Sonderblade> YukiIkyuta: /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[11:54] <topyli> pc22: workgroup is a windows networking term, and it's called "workgroup" in any context
[11:54] <nelpost0> so the static IP settings didn't work so well
[11:54] <YukiIkyuta> That should work anyways?
[11:54] <Fujitsu> Sonderblade: Yes, auto.
[11:55] <YukiIkyuta> ``auto'' is the filesystem it should be using. Can't you just mount it, and it recognizes it?
[11:55] <YukiIkyuta> nelpost0: oh?
[11:55] <Fujitsu> nelpost0: What was wrong?
[11:55] <boo> fuck password incorrect
[11:55] <Sonderblade> YukiIkyuta: no, mount cannot autodetect the fs
[11:55] <boo> does the pass go in brackets?
[11:55] <nelpost0> well I tried to put in the settings
[11:55] <oskude> boo, dunno, try
[11:55] <Fujitsu> Sonderblade: It certainly should!
[11:56] <nelpost0> is IP address supposed to be my IP on the network... and gateway the address of the DNS ?
[11:56] <boo> how do i stop something from executing in console
[11:56] <topyli> Sonderblade: it's a known bug. fixed only in dapper and backports
[11:56] <boo> i tried STOP but it didnt listen
[11:56] <YukiIkyuta> nelpost0: no! Gateway is the router.
[11:56] <Fujitsu> nelpost0: Gateway is for the router!
[11:56] <Fujitsu> Damn, beat me to it.
[11:56] <Sonderblade> topyli: i have backports
[11:56] <YukiIkyuta> XD
[11:56] <YukiIkyuta> boo: ctrl+c, or open another terminal and kill it.
[11:56] <nelpost0> oh GENIUS
[11:56] <nelpost0> ok.. and IP address is the DNS server then?
[11:56] <nelpost0> or
[11:56] <musik> my bro needs windows and he's shouting at me!
[11:56] <Sonderblade> Fujitsu: i have never ever seen mount be able to autodetect vfat
[11:57] <YukiIkyuta> nelpost0: IP address is *yours*.
[11:57] <Fujitsu> IP address is yours.
[11:57] <nelpost0> I name the DNS in the DNS part... that could make sense
[11:57] <Fujitsu> DNS is DNS.
[11:57] <YukiIkyuta> Sonderblade: perhaps it's umsdos?
[11:57] <musik> what more info shud i give?
[11:57] <YukiIkyuta> nelpost0: XD! ^_^
[11:57] <boo>  unrar e -p[Pirates0020]  /media/0\ GB\ Disk\ \(hdc1\)/Documents\ and\ Settings/Boo/Desktop/moviez/Pirates\ of\ the\ Caribbean\ .The\ Curse\ of\ the\ Black\ Pearl\(2003\)/Pirates\ of\ the\ Caribbean\ .The\ Curse\ of\ the\ Black\ Pearl\(2003\).part01.rar /home/boo/Desktop/
[11:57] <boo>    anyone see any problems?
[11:57] <oskude> musik, shout back :)
[11:57] <nelpost0> god I'm good at this game
[11:57] <Sonderblade> YukiIkyuta: dunno. but mount -t vfat works
[11:57] <Fujitsu> boo, perhaps you shouldn't have so many spaces!
[11:57] <nelpost0> you should've seen me the other day when I tied my own shoelaces.. grand affair.. ok off to try
[11:57] <YukiIkyuta> boo: yes.
[11:57] <oskude> boo, use " in your paths, its way more readable :)
[11:57] <YukiIkyuta> boo: take away that last argument.
[11:58] <YukiIkyuta> nelpost0: haha! ^^
[11:58] <boo> what last argument?
[11:58] <boo> the /home/boo one?
[11:58] <YukiIkyuta> boo: the ``/home/boo/Desktop/'' bit.
[11:58] <topyli> yeah, it will extract to the current directory
[11:58] <YukiIkyuta> Yup.
[11:58] <boo> ok, but i dont know why that would fix the PW problem =/
[11:59] <boo> how do i know the current dir.
[11:59] <T80U> hey
[11:59] <oskude> boo, whereami
[11:59] <nelpost0> zOMG it works.. thanks heaps!
[11:59] <YukiIkyuta> boo: you're in it. ``pwd'' reveals your current directory.
[11:59] <Fujitsu> boo: The prompt will tell you, as will typing pwd.
[11:59] <topyli> boo try "pwd"
[11:59] <YukiIkyuta> `cd' will get you there.
[11:59] <T80U> does anyone know how to copy files into the filesystem?
[11:59] <YukiIkyuta> nelpost0: great!
[11:59] <Fujitsu> T80U: What do you mean?
[11:59] <oskude> OHNO, theres no "whereami" :)
[11:59] <markc> I've managd to install breezy onto an external USB drive but I'm struggling to get it to boot up.. any pointers to docs/howtos available ?
[12:00] <Fujitsu> T80U, what are you wanting to do?
[12:00] <topyli> oskude: no. unix only answers to deeper questions like "whoami"
[12:00] <T80U> i want to copy some files into the var/www/ eg apache so i can access them
[12:00] <YukiIkyuta> markc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootingFromUSB
[12:00] <Fujitsu> T80U: You can use the file manager, or the terminal.
[12:00] <oskude> topyli, aah yeah, that was it, sorry, my memory leaks :)
[12:00] <T80U> okay thanks Fujitsu
[12:00] <topyli> oskude: wherami is a newbie question, whoami shows some sage understanding about STUFF
[12:00] <boo> man im so hungry i havent ate since yesterday morning
[12:01] <YukiIkyuta> boo: what's the time? xP
[12:01] <boo> and zaxbys doesnt open for 3 hours
[12:01] <boo> 501 am
[12:01] <YukiIkyuta> Wah.
[12:01] <T80U> Fujitsu where is file manager?
[12:01] <T80U> im new to Ubuntu sorry
[12:01] <YukiIkyuta> All I've done is ate and toyed about with my computer.
[12:01] <Fujitsu> T80U: If you go Places->Computer->File System
[12:01] <oskude> making a link "whereami" to pwd :P
[12:01] <T80U> yeah
[12:01] <T80U> i cant copy the files across
[12:01] <Fujitsu> It says access denied?
[12:01] <boo> fuck same problem
[12:02] <T80U> i dont have the premissions
[12:02] <T80U> yeah
[12:02] <Fujitsu> OK.
[12:02] <YukiIkyuta> boo: what exactly does it say?
[12:02] <markc> YukiIkyuta> great, thanks, looks like it's not possible
[12:02] <YukiIkyuta> markc: ouch! ><
[12:02] <topyli> oskude: overkill, you're chaniging the system. make an alias whereami="pdw" to ~/.bashrc instead :)
[12:02] <Fujitsu> T80U: Open a terminal, and type 'sudo nautilus'
[12:02] <T80U> k
[12:02] <boo> Encrypted file:  CRC failed in Pirates of the Caribbean(2003).CD3.avi (password incorrect ?)
[12:02] <nelposto> another question.. I'm preparing to partition my harddrive so I can do some dual booting goodness.. My HDD is partitioned into two partitions, both NTFS. I plan to reinstall windows, but there is some amount of data I want to carry over.. short of backing it all up to another source, is it possible for me to convert the hard disk (ie to FAT) and repartition it _without_ destroying the data I want to keep?
[12:03] <oskude> topyli, dont worry, i know what im doing :)
[12:03] <Fujitsu> That will get you into a super-privileged file-manager, but be careful what you do, T80U.
[12:03] <YukiIkyuta> boo: well, then you need to know the password!
[12:03] <_eliphas> what was the command to get back the console on right click in gnome?
[12:03] <boo> i have it lol
[12:03] <topyli> oskude: heh
[12:03] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: tried PartitionMagic?
[12:03] <boo>  password:Pirates0020
[12:03] <T80U> okay thanks
[12:03] <oskude> !pirates
[12:03] <ubotu> oskude: What?
[12:03] <oskude> :)
[12:03] <T80U> cheers Fujitsu
[12:03] <YukiIkyuta> boo: well, I don't need to know that, but unless you're misentering it, there's nothing that can be done.
[12:03] <Fujitsu> OK, T80U.
[12:03] <boo> does the pw go in brackets?
[12:03] <YukiIkyuta> (this isn't a limit of Ubuntu, or Linux; it's just the archive you're using)
[12:03] <nelposto> Yuki that's where i'm about to look ... Just wondering if anyone knew whether it were possible to keep the data and re do partitions
[12:04] <T80U> BTW what are some good ways to secure  Ubuntu:?
[12:04] <YukiIkyuta> boo: how are you specifying the password?
[12:04] <boo> i have -p[pw]
[12:04] <YukiIkyuta> boo: no brackets!
[12:04] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: well, PartitionMagic will keep the data and re do them.
[12:04] <boo> it says brackets in the documentation!
[12:04] <boo> it needs to stop lying
[12:04] <YukiIkyuta> boo: really?!
[12:04] <topyli> T80U: what exactly are you afraid of? ;-)
[12:04] <boo>  p[password]    Set password
[12:04] <lillo> hello
[12:04] <YukiIkyuta> boo: yes, the brackets are to show you that it's optional!
[12:04] <oskude> boo, <> and []  are common, any one got a tutorial ? :)
[12:04] <YukiIkyuta> When those appear, you don't have to specify them.
[12:04] <Fujitsu> Yeah.
 means mandatory.
[12:05] <T80U> lol, i went to Ubuntu cause i thought it would be more secure then windws
[12:05] <YukiIkyuta> and []  optional.
[12:05] <Fujitsu> []  means optional.
[12:05] <boo> lol
[12:05] <boo> oops =/
[12:05] <Fujitsu> T80U, it is!
[12:05] <boo> so i have -pPirates
[12:05] <Ng> Fujitsu: that's a very bold claim ;)
[12:05] <lillo> has anyone experimented with vesafb-tng?
[12:05] <YukiIkyuta> Ng: it's fairly accurate.
[12:05] <Fujitsu> Ng: Not really.
[12:05] <T80U> really?
[12:05] <YukiIkyuta> boo: or just -p, and it'll ask you when you enter the command.
[12:05] <nelposto> ok Yuki thanks
[12:05] <Ng> Fujitsu: really :)
[12:05] <nelposto> and thanks Fuji as well
[12:05] <YukiIkyuta> T80U: a *lot* more secure.
[12:05] <Fujitsu> Ng: Really.
[12:06] <nelposto> Thanks to you all, if you ever in town and need a place to stay ...
[12:06] <Ng> Fujitsu: have you audited all the code? or are you just repeating the age old mantra that it must be more secure because it's not windows? ;)
[12:06] <T80U> i hope so >_>
[12:06] <_eliphas> !wiki
[12:06] <boo> and is there any docking system for linux? can i dock gaim to the right side of a workspace?
[12:06] <nelposto> I'm out to investigate.. cheers again
[12:06] <YukiIkyuta> boo: it depends on your window manager. I'm not sure about GNOME ...
[12:06] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto: good luck.
[12:06] <_eliphas> !wiki gnome console
[12:06] <nelposto> ta
[12:06] <YukiIkyuta> boo: you can make a window always visible (always on top)
[12:06] <Ng> Fujitsu: it *can* be more secure, but poor configuration on any OS will leave you open to attack
[12:06] <T80U> hmmm
[12:06] <lillo> hey, nobody tried vesafb-tng? I can't believe it...
[12:07] <boo> well the reason i want docking is so nothing can go under it
[12:07] <T80U> whats the best way to configure? or to check what services your running?
[12:07] <YukiIkyuta> Ng: naturally your statement is true. Perhaps if we compare the default configurations, however?
[12:07] <boo> and is flash supported w/ linux?
[12:07] <YukiIkyuta> Or the most secure configuration available via the setup process only? (with no additional configuration)
[12:07] <YukiIkyuta> boo: of course.
[12:07] <Ng> T80U: by default ubuntu doesn't have any services running that are accessible remotely, so if you don't install any servers then it is pretty well secured by default
[12:07] <Ng> YukiIkyuta: indeed, in which case Ubuntu does very well :)
[12:07] <Fujitsu> Ng: Pretty much, yes...
[12:07] <oskude> T80U, "ps aux" shows the processes currently running
[12:07] <T80U> cool, thanks oskude
[12:08] <T80U> and ng
[12:08] <YukiIkyuta> Well, yes. It's true that Windows can be configured; it just takes a *lot* of effort, and -maintenance-.
[12:08] <boo> is there an activex control ?
[12:08] <YukiIkyuta> boo: no.
[12:08] <oskude> !activex
[12:08] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, oskude
[12:08] <oskude> :)
[12:08] <T80U> im running Apache and SQL do you folks think that im unsecured?
[12:08] <YukiIkyuta> T80U: no!
[12:08] <oskude> boo, whats activex ? ;)
[12:08] <boo> not cool lol
[12:09] <Ng> T80U: if you have apache and mysql open to the world then yes
[12:09] <boo> firefox didnt have activex in windows so i guess now
[12:09] <YukiIkyuta> boo: ActiveX is one of Microsoft's worst ideas.
[12:09] <Fujitsu> boo: No ActiveX in Linux, fortunately.
[12:09] <T80U> hmmm, how to i lock them down? thanks for answering my questions oskude, fujitsu, YukiIkyuta and ng
[12:09] <Ng> boo: no, you can't run activex components in a browser, unless you run Internet Explorer in wine
[12:09] <oskude> T80U, lock them down ?
[12:10] <topyli> T80U: if you run services, you have to either configure them to listen to localhost only, or use a firewall
[12:10] <Fujitsu> Actually, Firefox can do ActiveX in WIne.
[12:10] <T80U> hmm, okay
[12:10] <topyli> T80U: unless you actually want them visible
[12:10] <YukiIkyuta_> Fujitsu, ouch.
[12:10] <T80U> so how do i get them to be secure i mean
[12:10] <YukiIkyuta_> T80U, configure each one individually!
[12:10] <T80U> i dont want people to be able to see my PHPmyadmin lol (shows my noobyness )
[12:10] <boo> i was running age of empires 2 in wine, and it was running sooooo slow but i have a great gfx card, any reason?
[12:11] <Fujitsu> AOEII does not work well atm.
[12:11] <topyli> T80U: installing and configuring firestarter is a good start
[12:11] <glouph> How comes the gnome desktop gets green sometimes ?
[12:11] <Hobbsee> boo: tried AOE 1?
[12:11] <boo> what about age3?
[12:11] <oskude> T80U, do you have a dsl-router (with firewall) ?
[12:11] <boo> nope hobb
[12:11] <glouph> http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1274/capture2qd.png < like this
[12:11] <T80U> teah
[12:11] <boo> battlefield 2? that work?
[12:11] <T80U> yeah* i dont have firestarter
[12:12] <topyli> T80U: well if you have a hardware firewall that's even better
[12:12] <boo> and WHY ARE MY DESKTOP ICONS HALF OFF THE SCREEN :(
[12:12] <T80U> mmm okay
[12:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> boo: they are scared of you
[12:12] <oskude> T80U, do you connect to the internet with your linux, or does your dsl-router do this for you ?
[12:12] <grunt> does anyone have a repo where I could apt-get the ncftp.. does not seem to be avail from default.
[12:12] <T80U> my router does it for me
[12:13] <Ng> grunt: it's in universe
[12:13] <Fujitsu> Goodnight all.
[12:13] <topyli> boo: dunno, but your all-caps text is half off my sight
[12:13] <YukiIkyuta> grunt, it's in univers.e
[12:13] <YukiIkyuta> universe*
[12:13] <boo> :P
[12:13] <T80U> but if i am running a webserver wont i have to be the gateway out?
[12:13] <oskude> T80U, ok, so i assume your router has a firewall, and if you havent opened any port in there, nobody should be able to visit your pc...
[12:13] <T80U> yeah , im not port forwading till its all setup >: D
[12:13] <topyli> T80U: well, open the port for your web server
[12:14] <Ng> grunt: lftp is available by default and is nicer imho :)
[12:14] <oskude> T80U, ah ok, so you want to server http for the internet, but want all to be secure as possible ?
[12:14] <grunt> but CPAN module for perl requires ncftp...
[12:14] <T80U> yeah
[12:14] <T80U> thats what i wanna do oskude
[12:15] <T80U> BTW, some folders havent appared on my local host (in the browser) even though they are in www?
[12:15] <lillo> maybe now someone has come who can help me... I'm having problems installing vesafb-tng under ubuntu breezy
[12:15] <topyli> T80U: configure apache properly and keep it up to date, open port 80, profit!
[12:15] <oskude> T80U, then (SCNR!) RTFM :) well, the apache is pretty secure by default, and remember to set good passwords
[12:15] <lillo> so has anyone got experience with it so he/she can help me?
[12:15] <T80U> uhh excuse the niave password
[12:15] <T80U> where do i set the password for apache :X
[12:16] <topyli> T80U: you don't
[12:16] <oskude> T80U, well "apache" dont have a password...
[12:16] <YukiIkyuta> lillo, well, what's happening right now?
[12:16] <T80U> what about httpdaccess?
[12:16] <oskude> T80U, but you can set passwords to your folders that are accessable from apache (web browser)
[12:16] <YukiIkyuta> .htaccess file.
[12:16] <lillo> YukiIkyuta, I recompiled the kernel after applying the latest vesafb-tng patch from the author's page
[12:17] <T80U> ahh k cheers
[12:17] <lillo> problem is, to make it compile with the ubuntu kernel (2.6.12 IIRC) I had to modify the patch
[12:17] <lillo> it compiled then
[12:17] <grunt> great.. ncftp now installing.. thx for that universe trick.
[12:17] <T80U> would you fellahs know why some folders arent showing up on local host, yet ive put them there...?
[12:17] <lillo> in the kernel config I removed all fb drivers except vesafb
[12:17] <lillo> to ensure that one was going to be used
[12:18] <lillo> then recompiled the kernel
[12:18] <lillo> now on boot it says it can't load vga16fb
[12:18] <oskude> T80U, rights of the directory, maybe
[12:18] <T80U> hmm, cheers oskude
[12:18] <YukiIkyuta> Hm.
[12:18] <lillo> even if in menu.lst of grub I explicitely put video=vesafb:640x480-32
[12:19] <lillo> dunno what went wrong
[12:19] <T80U> it shows apache and phpmy admin, but not aiml or src?? any ideas oskude?
[12:19] <YukiIkyuta> lillo, ack, I really don't know!
[12:19] <T80U> i checked permissions there okay
[12:20] <oskude> T80U, hmm
[12:20] <lillo> no ideas? Maybe a newer vesafb-tng patch explicitely for ubuntu?
[12:20] <T80U> lol, looks like i "broke" something
[12:20] <oskude> T80U, what did you do ?
[12:20] <YukiIkyuta> Not from what I see..
[12:20] <lillo> isn't there a kernel source package in the ubuntu repository that holds the vesafb-tng patch already applied?
[12:21] <T80U> oskude - i just copied some folders for this PHP chatbot
[12:21] <T80U> and i cant see them when i try to access them in localhost
[12:21] <YukiIkyuta> lillo, it's possible that the latest version has it applied.
[12:21] <oskude> T80U, sec, i do a test..
[12:22] <lillo> I have 2.6.12-9
[12:22] <T80U> cheers champ
[12:22] <YukiIkyuta> Package linux-source-2.6.12 (has patches applied already)
[12:22] <lillo> doesn't seem so... vesafb-tng isn't there
[12:23] <lillo> at least the patch I downloaded partly applied
[12:23] <lillo> so it means it wasn't previously applied
[12:23] <oskude> T80U, i just made a dir "sudo mkdir /var/www/foodir" and i can access it with "http://localhost/foodir/", hmm
[12:23] <T80U> hmm indeed lol
[12:23] <YukiIkyuta> Ah..
[12:23] <T80U> the folders might have been created in windowz?
[12:24] <T80U> would that affect it?
[12:24] <oskude> T80U, does the folders have execute rights ?
[12:24] <YukiIkyuta> lillo, I'm not too sure on that one.
[12:24] <T80U> uhh, ill check
[12:24] <oskude> i just made "sudo chmod -x /var/www/foodir/" and i can see them anymore from browser
[12:24] <oskude> *cant
[12:25] <T80U> for owner
[12:25] <T80U> they have execute
[12:25] <lillo> ok then, I'll reget the whole latest kernel sources and try
[12:25] <T80U> but not for group r others
[12:25] <YukiIkyuta> Good luck.
[12:25] <oskude> T80U, make for all
[12:25] <lillo> tnx :)
[12:25] <oskude> T80U, or
[12:25] <T80U> okay, hmmm i cant seem to i tick the box but it unticks...
[12:25] <oskude> T80U, change owner/group to "www-data"
[12:26] <T80U> cheers
[12:26] <nillas> Hi. I'm trying to get TOR and Privoxy to work, but it seems like I have the same IP as before. I'm not behind any software firewall at the moment but  I have a router.
[12:26] <refnumzx> i'd like to add all the users on my system to a suplimentary group, how can i do this using a script?
[12:26] <T80U> damn - no www data..
[12:26] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, how many do you have?
[12:26] <nillas> I've installed tor and privoxy via this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95527&highlight=tor
[12:26] <refnumzx> 200 or so
[12:26] <T80U> i cant seem to change permissions oskude
[12:27] <nillas> anyone who have the same problem/ a solution?
[12:27] <oskude> T80U, "sudo chown www-data:www-data /path/to/your/dir"
[12:27] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, the only problem is telling the difference between a `user' (human person) and a `user' (according to the system)
[12:27] <T80U> cheers
[12:27] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, do you want all the real human users, or just the ones that exist in the system?
[12:27] <refnumzx> real human users
[12:27] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, in that case, you'll need a list of their user IDs or usernames.
[12:28] <refnumzx> even if i could exclude specific users by just writing those in another listthats fine not that many system accounts
[12:28] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, I'm not aware of any such script which exists, however I could write one.
[12:29] <T80U> well i typed in /var/www
[12:29] <T80U> it told me to enter in my pass which i did
[12:29] <T80U> but its still the same oskude
[12:29] <refnumzx> i was also trying to find a script that would add aysstem and smb acount users from a csv list in a text file, i have tried with awk but have failed
[12:30] <oskude> T80U, you should leave "/var/www" to root user, and only change the directories you cant see in /var/www to user www-data
[12:30] <T80U> oh okay
[12:30] <T80U> thanks oskude
[12:31] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, would you like me to write a script to do this?
[12:31] <refnumzx> that would be really great, if you are willing
[12:31] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, sure. what format should the list of users to exclude be in? (comma separated, newline separated ...)
[12:32] <refnumzx> comma
[12:32] <YukiIkyuta> So just `root,postmaster,' ... etc?
[12:32] <YukiIkyuta> Sure.
[12:33] <T80U> oskude - i changed all the premissions but i still cant see them
[12:34] <T80U> do i need to allow all groups and others to be able to execute?
[12:34] <refnumzx> so if we did username,group,password
[12:34] <oskude> T80U, sec, ill test
[12:34] <T80U> thanks champ
[12:35] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, hang on, what script are you wanting here?
[12:37] <oskude> T80U, hmm, my /var/www/foodir has "drwxr-xr-x  2 www-data www-data" and i can see the file that has "-rw-r--r--  1 root     root        0 2005-12-01 12:22 hello.txt"
[12:37] <T80U> yeah
[12:37] <refnumzx> i guess the more valuable would be the one that adds smb and system accounts using the csv i can use that script and the techniues you use to write the other one. if you don't mind.
[12:37] <T80U> ill give it another go
[12:38] <T80U> oskude - i had to change the read permissions my bad
[12:38] <T80U> thanks for all your help
[12:38] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, ah, okay. I already have a bit of the former one done.
[12:38] <YukiIkyuta> but I can do them both quite quickly.
[12:38] <oskude> T80U, yeah, atleast others should have read right if its not "www-data"
[12:38] <refnumzx> thank you
[12:39] <refnumzx> smbpasswd has this -s switch that i never got to work properly
[12:39] <oskude> T80U, files need read, and directories need read&execute for www-data or "others"
[12:39] <lachesis> hi, I need some serious help to recover from a major system crash : my computer frozed and after i rebooted my file system seems corrupt as it is mounted as read-only... Any idea of what i need to do to fix it ?
[12:39] <YukiIkyuta> Hmm.
[12:39] <T80U> ahh cool okay
[12:39] <conn> hi, when I play a file with mplayer -vo xv, it plays fast but the aspect ratio is messed up, there's a black border at the bottom of the video.. does anyone know how to fix?
[12:40] <refnumzx> because i want to tell smbpasswd to accept passwords from the commandline
[12:40] <T80U> now the phpscript fails - access denied ...
[12:40] <refnumzx> er..the flatflile rather
[12:40] <kvantti> hi! does anyone know of a functional apt-get source for libdvdcss2?
[12:40] <oskude> T80U, script files need execute rightrs for "others" (or www-data)
[12:40] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, it seems to work this way;
[12:41] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, OLDPASS\nNEWPASS\nCONFPASS\n
[12:41] <YukiIkyuta> (ie. smbpasswd -s)
[12:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> kvantti: use seveas's apt repository
[12:42] <lachesis> kvantti, from the wiki : sudo apt-get install libdvdread3;
[12:42] <lachesis> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[12:43] <T80U> okay - ill have to enable write righs and see if that works oskude
[12:43] <refnumzx> i am sure this is simple for you but i tried and you wouldn't believe the results i got hehehh
[12:43] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, oh?
[12:43] <kvantti> Kamping_Kaiser what should i add to sources.list for that repo?
[12:43] <kvantti> lachesis i am unable to play encrypted dvd even with that library installed
[12:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> kvantti deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ Breezy-seveas Breezy-extras
[12:44] <refnumzx> when i tried to add the users using useradd and -g etc, the flatfile gave me the passwords as the usernames and groups as the passwords and all sorts stuff, as well as smbpasswd completely failing to add the user at all
[12:44] <YukiIkyuta> !
[12:44] <ubotu> YukiIkyuta: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[12:44] <YukiIkyuta> Eek!
[12:45] <YukiIkyuta> Oops.
[12:46] <francoisgez2002_> ~vient
[12:47] <kvantti> kamping_kaiser i added exactly that but apt-get update does not comply with that repo..
[12:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> kvantti: what does it say?
[12:47] <lachesis> hmm, is it normal to have an empty /boot directory on breezy ?
[12:47] <kvantti> kamping_kaiser couldn't stat source package
[12:48] <kvantti> kamping_kaiser should the source repo be added too?
[12:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> kvantti: can paste to flood?
[12:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> um. you can, but i donnt think it's required
[12:48] <kvantti> kamping_kaiser running terminal, no way to copy
[12:48] <oskude> T80U, brb. afk 2min...
[12:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> kvantti: ok.
[12:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> so you added the line, ran apt-get update, then it wouldnt download?
[12:49] <kvantti> kamping_kaiser anyway the repo seems to be unfunctional by the looks of the error..will do some more searching
[12:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> kvantti: sounds like it, but it's usualy there :|
[12:49] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, should it be their primary group (for the group adding program), or just an additional group?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> whats the repo ill try it  a few different ways :)
[12:50] <mbn18> hello, just installed ubuntu. very impressing work
[12:50] <refnumzx> additional
[12:50] <YukiIkyuta> Okay.
[12:51] <refnumzx> ubuntu will create that system group or whatever
[12:51] <YukiIkyuta> Hm?
[12:51] <dpupp> will i run into any issues when recormating a drive that had linux and grub to re-install windows XP? my sister wants out of linux... i guess the penguin bit her and shes afraid now.
[12:52] <lillo> YukiIkyuta, just to let you know, ubuntu package for kernel 2.6.12 doesn't contain a kernel with vesafb-tng patch applied :/
[12:52] <kvantti> kamping_kaiser damn, almost all the dvds out there are unfunctional since i cant install that libdvdcss
[12:52] <YukiIkyuta> lillo, ouch ><
[12:52] <mbn18> I was not able to add gnucash in Add Aplication. i had to ad repositories and only then i found it thrught the advance interface.
[12:52] <mbn18> any idea why ?
[12:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> kvantti: look in the quick guide in help, it's explains IIRC
[12:53] <refnumzx> dpupp: if you just tell windows to remove al the parttions and reformat them using the utilties on the cd you should be fine
[12:53] <refnumzx> partitions
[12:53] <oskude> T80U, back
[12:54] <dpupp> ok. thanks. Just planning in advanced. I have two machines that want out :( as far as me, im keeping it. everything is flawless except dvd playback. (random issues)
[12:55] <mbn18> how can i add a button of gnucash to the Applcation drop down menu ?
[12:55] <oskude> mbn18, click right mouse button on "applications" then "edit menus"
[12:58] <gnomefreak> gnucash should be under office apps.
[12:58] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, pretty much done #1!
[12:58] <YukiIkyuta> Sorry it's taking a tad longer than expected..
[12:58] <refnumzx> thank you for doing it at all, i definitely appreciate it
[12:59] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, do you have g++ installed?
[12:59] <mbn18> gnomefreak: its not :(
[12:59] <refnumzx> nope, i was hopeing for a shell script buyt i can install it
[12:59] <nAk|Marek> HELP: Hello, I installed Ubuntu for AMD64, having Nvidia 6600GT on pci-e and OpenGL performance is very bad. What can I do? Thx alot
[12:59] <refnumzx> if that will work
[01:00] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, ah, sorry. I can shell script, but no where near as well >< If you could install it, you could compile it yourself.
[01:00] <gnomefreak> mbn18, if you use smeg it should be
[01:00] <mbn18> smeg ?
[01:00] <kvantti> kamping_kaiser just for the info, there is a script to do it in usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples but it does not seem to work
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> kvantti: what failed?
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> i think that's where mine came from
[01:01] <gnomefreak> applications>systemtools>menu editer
[01:01] <lachesis> kvantti,  i used the script last week and it worked well for me...
[01:01] <refnumzx> as long as it works i have no objections however you can do it
[01:01] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, the source is here: http://sairyx.org/pub/massga.cpp
[01:01] <YukiIkyuta> (MASS Group Add)
[01:02] <kvantti> hey guys it looks like it ran by just chmodding and running with sudo..silly me
[01:02] <YukiIkyuta> And a simple "g++ -ansi -pedantic -o massga massga.cpp" will compile it.
[01:02] <kvantti> lachesis so do you know that it is now ready for example gxine? or what players?
[01:02] <gallonegro__> how do people have those asci things, when they open terminal?
[01:02] <mbn18> gnomefreak: found it thugh gnucash is not listed. I should add it manualy ?
[01:03] <Mabus06> how do you turn down the brightness in ubuntu? it was turned up in the Doom 3 settings, and after it closed it didn't turn back down
[01:03] <gnomefreak> i thought it would be uder office unless that was the debian list im thinking of :(
[01:03] <JugGeLNuT> hello!?
[01:03] <JugGeLNuT> wow, this is so cool!
[01:03] <YukiIkyuta> JugGeLNuT, hiya.
[01:03] <kvantti> lachesis what player do you use succesfully? gxine still wont run this "war of the worlds"
[01:04] <lachesis> kvantti, sorry i dont know i didnt try to play a dvd, just riped vobs with dvdbackup command line utility...
[01:04] <JugGeLNuT> im using the live CD of Ubunto 5.04
[01:04] <JugGeLNuT> hehe
[01:04] <JugGeLNuT> very cool!
[01:04] <YukiIkyuta> JugGeLNuT, neat! ^^
[01:04] <mbn18> gnomefreak < hmmm. im uded to debian too. thugh im quite impressed with unbuto as work station
[01:04] <lachesis> i would try it for you if my system was not totally brocken...
[01:04] <kvantti> ok, well
[01:04] <oskude> JugGeLNuT, is ubunto something else, or was that a typo ?
[01:04] <mbn18> gnomefreak < i assum ill add it manualy
[01:05] <Mabus06> how do you turn down the brightness in ubuntu? it was turned up in the Doom 3 settings, and after it closed it didn't turn back down. Can someone PLEASE help me, I'm going blind here guys.
[01:05] <JugGeLNuT> typo
[01:05] <JugGeLNuT> hehe Ubuntu
[01:05] <gnomefreak> mbn18, ubuntu=best if you ask me :)
[01:05] <JugGeLNuT> i ment
[01:05] <zapata> restart
[01:05] <YukiIkyuta> Mabus06, does logging out and in do it?
[01:05] <Mabus06> we'll see
[01:05] <oskude> JugGeLNuT, ok :) you know 5.10 is allso out
[01:05] <YukiIkyuta> JugGeLNuT, how are you liking it?
[01:05] <JugGeLNuT> ya
[01:05] <gnomefreak> mbn18,  do you know what command starts gnucash?
[01:05] <JugGeLNuT> very neat n cool! =)
[01:05] <JugGeLNuT> im plnning to DL that 1 too
[01:05] <fabiob> Mabus06, xgamma -gamma 1
[01:05] <JugGeLNuT> =)
[01:05] <YukiIkyuta> JugGeLNuT, if you can get it, you'll probably like 5.10 even more!
[01:05] <lachesis> I really cant believe it, i was working normally, the system just froze and now every thing is fucked up...
[01:06] <oskude> :)
[01:06] <lachesis> :(
[01:06] <kvantti> lachesis hey lachesis mplayer finally runs but with no sound :(
[01:06] <JugGeLNuT> cool! =)
[01:06] <JugGeLNuT> the Gaim thing is VERY COOL!
[01:06] <JugGeLNuT> by the way
[01:06] <lachesis> well you prolly need to install AC3 support package for mplayer i guess
[01:06] <gnomefreak> im using gaim right now :(
[01:07] <YukiIkyuta> JugGeLNuT, definitely. A lot of people use it.
[01:07] <YukiIkyuta> I'm using it too. (though not for IRC)
[01:07] <oskude> xchat here :)
[01:07] <gnomefreak> me neither im using it for aim
[01:07] <JugGeLNuT> ya, very neat
[01:07] <JugGeLNuT> =)
[01:07] <YukiIkyuta> Mabus06, just curious, did the xgamma command work for you?
[01:07] <BigKahuna> when enabling multiverse and universe what should you apend "multiverse" to the actual name of the repo?
[01:07] <Mabus06> I was alredy in the process of logging out, YukiIkyuta, which worked.
[01:07] <YukiIkyuta> BigKahuna, no - do it just like universe.
[01:07] <YukiIkyuta> Mabus06, ah, I see. Perhaps next time the xgamma command will work.
[01:09] <refnumzx>  will download that in a sec
[01:09] <refnumzx> thank you
[01:09] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, neat. How do you want the accounts created in the other script?
[01:09] <Mabus06> YukiIkyuta, well I don't *plan* on screwing up my screen again, but we'll see. :D
[01:09] <YukiIkyuta> Mabus06, haha. XD!
[01:09] <oskude> anyone know of a app that enables me to shoot my desktop icons ? (i have "tilda" installed an i get that FPS feeling;)
[01:09] <YukiIkyuta> oskude, boom!
[01:10] <oskude> YukiIkyuta, was that a package name ?
[01:10] <YukiIkyuta> Hah, I wish ><
[01:10] <YukiIkyuta> Actually, tilda is pretty cool!
[01:10] <YukiIkyuta> Thanks.
[01:11] <oskude> ok :)
[01:11] <kvantti> has anyone solved to corrupted audio problem using mplayer with 5.1 sound? i have terratec aureon 5.1 and logitech x530 and i got an encrypted dvd to run, but with no sound, and would like to do it with alsa output
[01:12] <refnumzx> just it'll read from the csv list in usrname,group,password one account per line, and it'll just create a system user with --shell /bin/false and it will ad the same accountname in smbpasswd
[01:12] <YukiIkyuta> Okay, sure.
[01:12] <kvantti> it seems that i need to install the dts codec for mplayer. any help with that one?
[01:13] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, I assume group is an initial group, or ..?
[01:14] <refnumzx> yup
[01:15] <clarkee> kubuntu rape
[01:15] <clarkee> it kicks ass!
[01:16] <oskude> O.o
[01:16] <YukiIkyuta> :P
[01:18] <oskude> this is creepy... :)
[01:18] <YukiIkyuta> How so?
[01:18] <oskude> silence....
[01:18] <YukiIkyuta> Just for a tad. -_-
[01:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> in 20 IRC channels :|
[01:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's feaking *me* out :|
[01:18] <aptiko> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu on a powerpc using xfs.  When it boots for the first time, I get "kernel panic: vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)".
[01:19] <lachesis> well
[01:19] <lachesis> i wish someone would talk about my system recovery actually...
[01:19] <oskude> aptiko, do you know in which partition you installed ubuntu ?
[01:19] <aptiko> Yes, it should be /dev/hda3.
[01:20] <aptiko> (I'm now booting from a live cd to check it.)
[01:21] <oskude> aptiko, ok, then in grub (the start menu at boot) go to the ubuntu entry and press "e", then edit the "hd(0,0)" to "hd(0,2)" and press "b"
[01:21] <lachesis> anybody has any idea about what it means when my file system is mounted read-only after a system crash...
[01:21] <aptiko> oskude: No grub.  I've got yaboot.
[01:21] <oskude> aptiko, doh, forgot that :)
[01:21] <aptiko> oskide: But I'll try to see if I can do it on yaboot.
[01:21] <YukiIkyuta> lachesis, have you tried just rebooting it again after that?
[01:22] <oskude> aptiko, theres allso away booting through "open firmware" (if your mac has it)
[01:22] <[A] ndy80> how can I avoid my ubuntu suspend to ram after x minutes I'm not using the notebook and I'm using battery?
[01:22] <lachesis> of course, several times and in recovery mode...
[01:22] <kvantti> it seems that another library called libdts is required for 5.1 sound in mplayer..this seems to be hard to find, so do you happen to know about it?
[01:23] <YukiIkyuta> kvantti, I just realised now my two rear speakers aren't playing!
[01:23] <lachesis> YukiIkyuta : but anyway my options are rather limited since I cant actually edit anything being in read-only mode...
[01:23] <kvantti> yukiikayta i have the same thing, but i believe the reason is that the rear speakers only function with true 5.1 sound
[01:23] <YukiIkyuta> lachesis, true. You could try to remount. Typically, it just means that it's fixed it, but wants you to reboot anyway.
[01:24] <YukiIkyuta> kvantti, weird.
[01:25] <refnumzx> YukiIkyuta: for the excluse list, what format should that be in, and what filename?
[01:25] <kvantti> yukiikyuta if you need a solve for 5.1 sound, you could check out this site http://developers.videolan.org/libdca.html
[01:25] <oskude> [A] ndy80, have you looken under System>Preferences or >Administration ? (i never had/used suspend, sry)
[01:25] <oskude> *looked
[01:25] <oskude> doh
[01:25] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, just have the list as a comma separated list: "root,postmaster,cupsys,sys,..etc
[01:26] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, it can be whatever name you like, as it'll want it as an argument.
[01:26] <refnumzx> okay
[01:26] <YukiIkyuta> kvantti, I'll look into it ..
[01:26] <refnumzx> thanks a lot for this one, the next one will be much much much morevaluable though ehh
[01:27] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, no problems, and this one is almost done too ^^
[01:27] <YukiIkyuta> You wanted /bin/false shell, right?
[01:27] <Mabus06> When installing quake2 and quake2-data from the repos, I start the game and it gives me this error; ""Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
[01:27] <Mabus06> "... any ideas?
[01:28] <kvantti> yukiikyuta the thing we need is libdts, but synaptic does not hold it thanks to bill gates and friends, ;)
[01:28] <refnumzx> yup
[01:28] <YukiIkyuta> oKtosiTe_, good.
[01:28] <YukiIkyuta> Oops.
[01:28] <YukiIkyuta> oKtosiTe_, good.
[01:28] <YukiIkyuta> !?
[01:28] <ubotu> I don't know, YukiIkyuta
[01:28] <YukiIkyuta> What the..
[01:28] <lachesis> YukiIkyuta, i tried to remount everything, which worked in the way that i didnt get error message but i still get Read-Only File Sytem any time i try to write something...
[01:28] <YukiIkyuta> It keeps expanding it ..
[01:28] <aptiko> oskude: yaboot tells me that I caould specify "device" and "partno" parameters, and that if I don't, the defaults are "device=/pci@f40000000/ata-6@d/disk@0" and "partition=3".  So yaboot must be having the correct information.
[01:28] <YukiIkyuta> lachesis, I've had that problem too.
[01:29] <oskude> aptiko, hmm
[01:29] <lachesis> also I noticed that the /boot directory is empty and i dont think that is normal
[01:29] <aptiko> I think I'd like to have an ext3 root partition of, say 300M,
[01:29] <aptiko> and have all the rest in another partition (I think the problem could be the xfs).
[01:29] <enderson_> eee
[01:30] <aptiko> Is it possible to install ubuntu in such a way that /var, /usr and /home are all in the same partition?
[01:30] <oskude> aptiko, you can have all (except swap) in one partition
[01:30] <YukiIkyuta> aptiko, yes, of course.
[01:30] <oskude> aptiko, if you just define "/" partition at install, all others are in there
[01:31] <potus> ?package kde
[01:31] <potus> !package kde
[01:31] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, potus
[01:31] <oskude> Mabus06, google: http://www.planetquake.com/features/techtips/techtips010303_b.shtml
[01:31] <mjr> aptiko, you might have to do some manual setting up of symlinks and/or bind-mounts for that, but possible? sure
[01:31] <mjr> (I'm not sure if the installer's partitioner supports defining bind mounts)
[01:32] <potus> i installed ubuntu 5.10 server,  just bear console.  im tring to get kde now.  can someone tell me packages?
[01:32] <oskude> potus, try "sudo apt-get install kubuntu" (could someone confirm?)
[01:32] <Nuck> hi
[01:32] <onkarshinde> potus: install kubuntu-desktop and it will install all needed.
[01:34] <oskude> potus, ah, ok "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" (i admit, never installed kde:)
[01:34] <sorush20> guys where can I find information on the ubuntu partitioning software?
[01:34] <onkarshinde> sorush20: DO you mean gparted? It is very easy to use.
[01:35] <sorush20> onkarshinde: I mean the partitioning tool that Kubuntu installation uses.. is there a manual on it..
[01:35] <oskude> Mabus06, found also something in ubuntuforums.org http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75305
[01:36] <lachesis> can someone confirm that /boot is not suposed to be empty on breezy ?
[01:36] <potus> oskude: then i just run startx from console to run it correct?
[01:36] <fred87> hi, non-ubuntu user here, can someone tell me where I can find any source patches used in ubuntu-64?
[01:36] <oskude> potus, in theory, yes :)
[01:36] <djk_> sorush20:  http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/ ?
[01:36] <Nuck> i'm having a problem with hedgehog, I am trying to use dialup. The modem initalises, and dials the number... but firefox won't connect. I can't even ping out
[01:36] <potus> yeah i just dont want that gui login start to xwindows... i want to login to console.. and installing the package shouldnt install gdm correct?
[01:37] <kvantti> yukiikuyta the libdts package can be found at http://debian.unnet.
[01:37] <kvantti> nl/pub/videolan/libdts/0.0.2/ libdts-0.0.2.tar.gz
[01:37] <nAk|Marek> I'am having troubles with nVidia 6600GT PCIx on Ubuntu AMD64 (i have nvidia-glx) - it is slow.. what to do?
[01:37] <onkarshinde> sorush20: you are asking wrong channel. Try in #kubuntu
[01:37] <sorush20> what program can I use to find deleted files on the partition?
[01:37] <oskude> potus, if you installed "kubuntu" i assume it uses "kdm"
[01:37] <tristan> hi all
[01:37] <onkarshinde> lachesis: Yup, it is not supposed to be empty
[01:37] <sorush20> tristan: hi
[01:37] <djk_> onkarshinde: why is he asking in the wrong channel?
[01:38] <aptiko> mjr: So I create the root partition and the second partition, make symlinks from the root partition to the second partition for /usr, /var and /home, then start the ubuntu installer and tell it to mount these partitions and install there while preserving existing data, so it will follow the symlinks?
[01:38] <onkarshinde> djk_: He asked about qtparted that comes with kubuntu, and though people here may be using kubuntu he will get more help in that channel
[01:39] <onkarshinde> aptiko: what do you exactly want to do?
[01:39] <djk_> onkarshinde: aha, and which partitioning program does Ubuntu use my dear friend?
[01:39] <lachesis> onkarshinde, thx but then how the hell can the system even boot ???
[01:39] <potus> onkarshinde:  if i apt-get remove kdm  that should fix that problem correct?
[01:39] <lachesis> i dont get it
[01:39] <aptiko> onkarshinde:  Have two partitions: a root partition, and a usr+var+home.
[01:39] <onkarshinde> djk_: gparted (if installed) or just console based parted
[01:39] <cusco> or fdisk or cfdisk
[01:40] <cusco> or there are so many
[01:40] <Mabus06> Yes thanks oskude but I found that site as well and the file mentioned at the end is not found in mycomputer
[01:40] <cusco> sudo apt-get install qtparted
[01:40] <tristan> I already asked that question yesterday but....
[01:41] <onkarshinde> potus: Sorry, I don't know much about how kdm works. But you can actually install it and still disable it from services so that you login to console on bootup.
[01:41] <djk_> onkarshinde: i know my dear friend, but he was asking about the installation...
[01:41] <nAk|Marek> I'am having troubles with nVidia 6600GT PCIx on Ubuntu AMD64 (i have nvidia-glx) - it is slow.. what to do?
[01:41] <oskude> Mabus06, sorry, never installed quake2...
[01:41] <potus> onkarshinde: initd?
[01:41] <tristan> I have trouble with smeg. It doesn't make the modification I made to my menus even though when I relaunch smeg they appear in the program...
[01:41] <potus> nak: i had troubles too then i just reverted back to winblows on that box.
[01:41] <cusco> tristan: try killall gnome-panel
[01:41] <onkarshinde> potus: perhaps. I am not sure if there is a GUI for that in KUbuntu. There is one in Ubuntu.
[01:42] <tristan> cusco : alreay done
[01:42] <tristan> Even rebooted
[01:42] <Mabus06> oskude, it really should be fixed in the next Ubuntu release... I installed quake2 and quake2-data without messing with anything and it does not work.
[01:42] <onkarshinde> aptiko: DO you mean you already have Ubuntu installed and you want to move data (home+usr+var) to new partitions?
[01:42] <potus> onkarshinde: yeah my main concern is using them gnome printer thing to setup my samba printers because i cant seem to setup cups from console =/
[01:42] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, can you create an account with smbpasswd alone? Or does it rely on the normal passwd file anyway?
[01:42] <nAk|Marek> potus: I dont want to :( -on my previous instalation on athlon xp / nv 5900XT was everything OK..
[01:42] <sorush20> guys what is the java package in the repositories?
[01:42] <aptiko> onkarshinde:  No, I want a new ubuntu installation.
[01:42] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, or do I use -a or something ..
[01:42] <oskude> Mabus06, yeah, quake2 is crusial for ubuntu :)
[01:43] <sorush20> topic
[01:43] <oskude> Mabus06, you could mail the package maintainer and ask for help
[01:43] <potus> nak: u should recompile latest kernel for best compadibility
[01:43] <onkarshinde> aptiko: Then you can make partitions in installation procedure
[01:43] <refnumzx> it relies on the password to be in smbpasswd
[01:43] <refnumzx> er.
[01:43] <oskude> Mabus06, or if its so important for you, i could try to install it too and see...
[01:43] <refnumzx> the account needs toexist according tu the system before smbpasswd will create it
[01:44] <nAk|Marek> potus: well, are you sure that this will help? I dont want to waste even more time..
[01:44] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, ah. I see... okay, simple.
[01:44] <YukiIkyuta> Almost done!!
[01:44] <potus> nak: what exactly is the problem?
[01:45] <aptiko> onkarshinde: I want a small ext3 root partition, and I want /usr+/var+/home be together in another partition, that is the problem.  Can I do this in the installation procedure?  Or do I have to make some preparation with symlinking?
[01:45] <Mabus06> oskude, it's certainly a popular game for linux. And it's on the default ubuntu repos. So yeah, I think anything in there should work as intended.
[01:46] <Killer_Smurf> x
[01:46] <onkarshinde> aptiko: hmm, that sure is problem.
[01:46] <oskude> Mabus06, quake2 is in multiverse (and thats not ubuntu "default")
[01:46] <onkarshinde> aptiko: I use separate /usr and everything else goes under /
[01:46] <slept> aptiko, why do you want to partiton such a strange way you'll have a problem mounting /usr /var
[01:47] <tristan> So, nobody has trouble with smeg?
[01:47] <kvantti> can someone help me out with compiling libdts..what else should i do but ./configure and make? .. doing that does not work
[01:47] <slept> aptiko, maybe you want /boot and the rest with lvm ?
[01:47] <onkarshinde> aptiko: why don't you just create three partitions, /usr, /home, /
[01:47] <Mara007> tristan: did you restarted gnome-panel?
[01:47] <djk_> kvantti: make install perhaps?
[01:47] <onkarshinde> tristan: I used it and no problem.
[01:48] <potus> has anyone got silicon raid image to work with ubuntu 5.10?
[01:48] <tristan> yes. I made killall gnome-panel nautilus. I even reboot the comp. And still when I launch smeg the modification appears in smeg but not in the menus
[01:48] <djk_> silicon raid..mmh sounds like boobies..
[01:48] <slept> kvantti, you can try checkinstall that will make you a removable .deb
[01:48] <Mara007> GF 6600GT sux on Ubuntu for AMD64? Does anyone know how to fix it?
[01:48] <Nuck> i'm having a problem with hedgehog, I am trying to use dialup. The modem initalises, and dials the number... but firefox won't connect. I can't even ping out. Any ideas?
[01:49] <potus> nuck does modem hang up or u still connected?
[01:49] <aptiko> onkarshinde, slept:  1) I want the root partition to be ext3 and the rest to be xfs; I want /var to also be xfs  2) I don't want /var, /home, and /usr to be separate partitions, because I don't want to make decisions how much space to give to each.  I just want a small 300M ext3 root partition for easy booting, and all the rest in another, which will be the rest of the disk.
[01:49] <Nuck> still connected
[01:49] <Mara007> tristan: and whe you run smeg again, does it apear that changes you have made are saved?
[01:50] <ompaul> Nuck, try pinging <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:50] <Mara007> tristan: I didn't have any problems with it at all
[01:50] <onkarshinde> Nuck: Perhaps you need to set ppp0 as default gateway from System->Administration->Networking
[01:50] <potus> aptiko: i just say u use ext3 all the way =P
[01:50] <parker> #ubuntu-es
[01:50] <Mara007> GF 6600GT sux on Ubuntu for AMD64? Does anyone know how to fix it?
[01:50] <enderson_> ol, algum poderia me dizer como fao para acessar o meu hd escravo, acabei de instalar o umbuto e estou tendo dificuldades
[01:50] <tristan> Mara007 : yes it shows every modification I made. But they do not appear in the gnome menu. That's what I don't understant
[01:50] <ompaul> !es
[01:50] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:50] <slept> aptiko, I think it'll give you trouble mounting one partition at 3 dirs
[01:50] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, done!
[01:50] <Nuck> onkarshinde: it is already set as default
[01:51] <onkarshinde> aptiko: See if you can figure out how to use LVM
[01:51] <refnumzx> cool stuff
[01:51] <kvantti> djk slept it seems to run by some parts, but on others it tells me "nothing to be done"
[01:51] <Mabus06> What is the reason one might use older versions of ubuntu? Laziness?
[01:51] <Mara007> tristan: :(( I have no idea.. sory
[01:51] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, http://sairyx.org/pub/massaa.cpp (MASS Account Adder)
[01:51] <ompaul> Mabus06, cos it is all you have and you have dialup
[01:51] <onkarshinde> Nuck: Is it only problem with FF?
[01:51] <refnumzx> url?
[01:51] <kvantti> and i still got corrupted 5.1 sound in mplayer
[01:51] <Mara007> anyway, ubuntu us cool even without it ;-)
[01:51] <YukiIkyuta> Compile with "g++ -wall -lcrypt ansi -pedantic -o massaa massaa.cpp"
[01:51] <aptiko> onkarshinde:  OK, I'll check LVM, thanks is it hard to learn?  I hardly know what it is and I don't want to spend a week.
[01:51] <tristan> Is your smeg can only be run as root. I cannot run smeg as myself
[01:51] <Nuck> onkarshinde: no, i cannot even ping out. it's like there's no connection
[01:51] <potus> djk_: have u done the raid b4?
[01:52] <slept> aptiko, why do you want ext3 ?  for booting you need /boot (50MB)
[01:52] <onkarshinde> Nuck: Maybe this is something related to IPv6. See if you can find anything on wiki
[01:52] <djk_> potus: no :( that's why i use linux
[01:52] <Nuck> onkarshinde: thanks
[01:52] <Mara007> tristan; I was runnint smeg as common user
[01:52] <richard> lo
[01:52] <aptiko> slept:  Mounting shouldn't be a problem;  there will be /secondpartition/usr, /secondpartition/var, and /secondpartition/home, and symlinks pointing there.  So only one directory will be mounted, /secondpartition.
[01:52] <Mara007> GF 6600GT sux on Ubuntu for AMD64? Does anyone know how to fix it?
[01:52] <Mabus06> ompaul, but they send you breezy cds free?
[01:52] <djk_> potus: gives me an excuse you know :)
[01:52] <richard> Im asuming this chat channel is for linux discussion.
[01:52] <tristan> Mara007 : doesn't allow me to run it as myself
[01:52] <potus> djk_: i have 2 sda drives and i want a raid for data recovery: what ar emy options?
[01:53] <Tuntis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=532641#post532641 <- anyone... know a solution?
[01:53] <YukiIkyuta> richard, yep.
[01:53] <ompaul> Nuck, ur in nui in galway - download and grab breezy it will make your life easier
[01:53] <ompaul> Mabus06, you may not know that
[01:53] <Nuck> aye, doing it now :)
[01:53] <Seveas> richard, this channel is for Ubuntu support, not general linux discussion
[01:53] <onkarshinde> richard: This is basically Ubuntu Linux channel and we hope you don't ask RedHat questions here
[01:53] <slept> aptiko, lvm is very easy. you make a physical volume in there a volumegroup ant in there the logicalvolumes(which you can mount)
[01:53] <aptiko> slept:  I can only boot from /boot?  What about the kernel modules? Are they in boot?  Or in /lib?  If they are in /lib I have a problem, as I may need modules to read the other filesystem.
[01:53] <richard> I have justr installed ubuntu
[01:53] <djk_> potus: heh, i thought we were talking about mounting booby raids ?
[01:53] <ompaul> Nuck, also if you really want mail ilug and somone over that way will burn you a cd if you hav not get the resouces
[01:53] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, tell me how it goes! :)
[01:54] <potus> djk_: idk what a
[01:54] <Nuck> ompaul: sound, thanks mate
[01:54] <richard> I am a begginer to linux
[01:54] <ompaul> Nuck, they can hand it to you under the spanish arch :P
[01:54] <potus> 'booby raid' is
[01:54] <richard> I want an SQL database and Client application to work on it.
[01:54] <potus> hehe ..  im jsut tring to get silicon raid image a /dev/something so i can cp my filesystem to it and edit fstab
[01:54] <Nuck> :)
[01:54] <djk_> potus: but seriously, i havent had any use for a raid, so i can't help you. check the wiki.
[01:54] <Mara007> tristan: it looks like there is something wrong, iam running ti like me "marek"
[01:54] <djk_> potus: hehe, you're so innocent ;)
[01:55] <ompaul> Nuck, don't go anywhere til I fon
[01:55] <onkarshinde> richard: then you need mysql
[01:55] <potus> djk_: i got the right idea right?
[01:55] <Nuck> ompaul, !! :O
[01:55] <slept> aptiko, no but if you do a root lvm you need to create a seperate /boot grub  can't handle lvm. the initrd contains the modules for your filesystems
[01:55] <potus> mod kernel get /dev/something... then it should be all set.
[01:55] <ompaul> Nuck, there is a ubuntu-ie
[01:55] <richard> Yes MySql, like in windows XP, with a nice GUI client to adminster it
[01:55] <Nuck> aye, i know :)
[01:55] <djk_> potus: i'd assume so.
[01:55] <Nuck> i'm downloading it now ompaul
[01:55] <richard> the package manager doesnt give me any new icons.
[01:55] <onkarshinde> richard: Do you know how to use apt-get to install packages?
[01:55] <ompaul> okay
[01:56] <potus> damm.. so no one has done anything with raid as the primary file system in here?
[01:56] <onkarshinde> richard: have you enabled repositories?
[01:56] <richard> yeh im working it out,
[01:56] <richard> no I think Il do more reading before anoyying ppl
[01:57] <onkarshinde> richard: one simple command, 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and uncomment repositories
[01:57] <ompaul> richard, I'll get the bot to give you some suggested reading if you want
[01:57] <oskude> Mabus06, did you read "apt-cache show quake2-data" but i admit i dont know how to use that :)
[01:57] <Ng> potus: I installed onto a software raid1 array once
[01:57] <richard> ok cool
[01:57] <A-Go> hello
[01:57] <onkarshinde> !tell richard about synaptic
[01:57] <potus> Ng: how u manage that i tried a software raid1 it wouldnt work during install.
[01:58] <potus> made raid partiton and kept giving me some error.
[01:58] <A-Go> any evolution users there?
[01:58] <A-Go> here?
[01:58] <refnumzx> i will test this later, thanks a lot for al of this
[01:58] <Mabus06> if you don't oskude, then I definately dont
[01:58] <Mabus06> lol
[01:58] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, no problems, and good luck! I hope it works out.
[01:58] <Ng> potus: I think I made a plain /boot and then put a partition on each disk to be the raid'd /
[01:58] <ompaul> richard, that should keep you busy for a few minutes :-)
[01:58] <Mara007> GF 6600GT sux on Ubuntu for AMD64? Does anyone know how to fix it?
[01:59] <YukiIkyuta> Mara007, got the nVidia drivers installed?
[01:59] <Mabus06> Mara007, try #nvidia
[01:59] <Ng> Mara007: search the wiki, there are instructions for installing the nvidia driver
[01:59] <Ng> it's very easy
[01:59] <YukiIkyuta> Mara007, they're here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:00] <Mara007> thanks - ofcourse I have driver installed - but performance is bad - Iam expecting about 90FPS in enemy territory and I gets about 40
[02:00] <A-Go> how can i remove gnome-games while keeping ubuntu-desktop?
[02:00] <YukiIkyuta> Mara007, is it in WINE?
[02:00] <richard> anyone know of a pure java bug tracking system with flat file database ?
[02:00] <iustin> hello everyone, i believe i have a silly question. Everything function at the best, but the single problem is with the codecs - i can`t play mp3 and avi and wmv
[02:00] <YukiIkyuta> A-Go, try apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop +gnome-games
[02:00] <richard> thanks om paul, Ive saved that info to file on my desktop
[02:01] <refnumzx> this is correct compile for mass account add?
[02:01] <refnumzx> "g++ -wall -lcrypt ansi -pedantic -o massaa
[02:01] <alex__> hello, who can tell me where I can find a good program to recover erase data
[02:01] <Siph0n> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/NVIDIA_graphics_drivers#Debian <---- for nvidia drivers
[02:01] <djk_> !restricted
[02:01] <ubotu> methinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:01] <YukiIkyuta> refnumzx, missing the last word: massaa.cpp
[02:01] <potus> Ng: yeah i tried doing that.. wouldnt work for me =/
[02:01] <Siph0n> what i used to get UT2004 to work :)
[02:01] <oskude> Mabus06, try "dpkg-reconfigure quake2-data" :) (i read /usr/share/doc/quake2-data/README.Debian)
[02:01] <Mara007> YukiIkyuta no.. it is linux native binary .x86.. Iam running AMD64 ubuntu
[02:01] <YukiIkyuta> Ah..
[02:01] <YukiIkyuta> That's quite weird.
[02:01] <Siph0n> lol i think
[02:01] <Ng> Mara007: run "glxinfo | grep -i vendor", does it say nvidia three times?
[02:02] <oskude> Mabus06, but sadly it wont find anything on the shareware downloads...
[02:02] <Mara007> Ng dont know exactly (Iam at work now) but probably YES, there is a nv logo when starting xserver
[02:03] <alex__> hello, who can tell me where I can find a good program to recover erase data
[02:03] <Mara007> ..must leave for a while.. thanks anyway
[02:03] <djk_> iustin: did you get what ubotu sent you?
[02:04] <SanderD> "No Firefox 1.5 in Breezy until after it appears in Dapper." -- Why? And when will it appear in Dapper?
[02:04] <refnumzx>      /quit
[02:04] <kvantti> if anyone of you could bother to see http://rpmseek.com/rpm-pl/libdca.html?hl=com&cs=libdca:PN:0:0:0:0                                and help me out with installing this package. the reward is i think functional 5.1 sound in mplayer with encrypted dvd:s
[02:05] <trip|do0b> does anybody knows how you can use multiple buffers in bash?
[02:05] <alex__> hello, who can tell me where I can find a good program to recover erase data
[02:05] <YukiIkyuta> trip|do0b, what do you imply with the word `buffer'?
[02:06] <oskude> Mabus06, i now found a quake2 demo through google, ill try if that works...
[02:06] <oNe^somewhere> can i reinstall windows without messing up grub and my install of ubuntu ?
[02:06] <P0406125> c qui
[02:06] <YukiIkyuta> oNe^somewhere, it's very difficult to not mess up GRUB.
[02:06] <p0505616> dededede
[02:06] <p0505616> cool
[02:06] <p0505616> a marche
[02:06] <P0205021> moi tu me vois?
[02:06] <p0505616> ouai
[02:06] <YukiIkyuta> p0505616, English?
[02:06] <P0406125> ok
[02:07] <oNe^somewhere> can i save the files from grub and reinstall them after ?
[02:07] <oskude> Mabus06, cot a crappy server, capped to 100kb/s... ~5min...
[02:07] <YukiIkyuta> oNe^somewhere, it's not that simple, unfortunately..
[02:07] <McScruff>  does anyone know how to get firefox videos in sync with sound?
[02:07] <YukiIkyuta> Do you have the CD you used to install? Or even the live CD?
[02:07] <P0205021> tu mentend
[02:07] <oNe^somewhere> i have the ubuntu cd not the live 1 tho
[02:07] <YukiIkyuta> P0205021, Anglais?
[02:07] <p0505616> moi ouai
[02:08] <alex__> hello, who can tell me where I can find a good program to recover erase data
[02:08] <oskude> alex__, google ?
[02:08] <YukiIkyuta> p0505616, vous parlez anglais?
[02:08] <oNe^somewhere> i know u can reinstall grub from the cd but u still need to configure it
[02:09] <YukiIkyuta> oNe^somewhere, the configuration is installed on the harddrive.
[02:09] <YukiIkyuta> So you can use that configuration still.
[02:09] <oNe^somewhere> if posible can i save files (and which files do i save ) and put them back after
[02:09] <YukiIkyuta> oNe^somewhere, as I said, you don't do it that way.
[02:09] <YukiIkyuta> There aren't specific files to save.
[02:10] <YukiIkyuta> When Windows is installed, it overwrites something called the Master Boot Record (MBR).
[02:10] <ompaul> !fr
[02:10] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[02:10] <YukiIkyuta> So you must reinstall GRUB to the MBR using the Live CD, typically.
[02:10] <oNe^somewhere> yes .. i found that out
[02:10] <YukiIkyuta> Good.
[02:10] <theD3viL> YukiIkyuta, isnt there command like "lilo" ?
[02:11] <oNe^somewhere> if this ubuntu is as good as it's sposed to be i'm gonna be stuck coz winblows always needs fixin
[02:11] <YukiIkyuta> theD3viL, there is, except we're using GRUB, so one types "grub" instead.
[02:11] <YukiIkyuta> grub-install*, indeed
[02:11] <trip|do0b> exit
[02:12] <oNe^somewhere> let me find somethin for ya YukiIkyuta
[02:12] <oNe^somewhere> a article in the wiki i think
[02:12] <theD3viL> YukiIkyuta, yes..
[02:12] <YukiIkyuta> theD3viL, yes..?
[02:12] <YukiIkyuta> "grub-install /dev/YOURHARDDRIVEDEVICEHERE"
[02:12] <YukiIkyuta> Typically as root.
[02:12] <SanderD> Does anyone know when Firefox 1.5 will be available using apt-get?
[02:13] <theD3viL> YukiIkyuta, you have right :) .. but he can do that even with gentoo installation disc...chmod?
[02:13] <YukiIkyuta> theD3viL, I shoul dthink so.
[02:13] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, as in the channel's topic, not until after it's in Dapper.
[02:13] <SanderD> Yukilkyuta: But when will it be in Dapper?
[02:13] <oskude> Mabus06, are you still there ? my quake2 works :)
[02:13] <YukiIkyuta> After Dapper is released in.. April, or so. o_O
[02:13] <Mabus06> how, oskude ?
[02:14] <Sonderblade> i accidentally removed /var/log/user.log, how do i get it back so that syslogging will work?
[02:14] <oskude> Mabus06, get quake 2 demo somewhere (google) and then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure quake2-data" and read the instructions
[02:14] <oskude> Mabus06, i got mine from here http://www.fileshack.com/file.x?fid=64
[02:14] <YukiIkyuta> Sonderblade, typically syslogging will just work anyway. Restarting may recreate the file.
[02:15] <SanderD> Yukilkyuta: Really? Doesn't it appear in the repositories or something first? It would be strange to let users wait until April for a software update...
[02:15] <Sonderblade> YukiIkyuta: it doesn't
[02:15] <YukiIkyuta> Sonderblade, peculiar!
[02:15] <theD3viL> SanderD, you can always compile i
[02:15] <theD3viL> t
[02:15] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, well, it's quite weird, but I'm taking a look at the channel topic, which appears to be the authoriative!
[02:15] <Sonderblade> YukiIkyuta: i probably have to set the right perms/ownerships
[02:16] <YukiIkyuta> theD3viL, have you seen it?
[02:16] <YukiIkyuta> It's 330MiB extracted, of source.
[02:16] <bachstudies> does anyone know how to cre
[02:16] <theD3viL> YukiIkyuta, what..FF 1.5 ?
[02:16] <YukiIkyuta> Yeah.
[02:16] <theD3viL> nope....no need
[02:16] <YukiIkyuta> ?
[02:16] <theD3viL> no need to see it
[02:16] <bachstudies> sorry....is it possible to mount a writable NTFS windows partition?
[02:16] <YukiIkyuta> Ohmer, well.
[02:16] <YukiIkyuta> No need, but what I mean is, it's quite a beast to compile.
[02:16] <YukiIkyuta> bachstudies, there's no NTFS write support (yet).
[02:16] <theD3viL> bachstudies, yes, www.ubuntuwiki.org
[02:17] <theD3viL> oh...write..sry
[02:17] <william__> hey has an update for Firefox 1.5 been done for Ubuntu?
[02:17] <SanderD> theD3viL: I know, but I chose Ubuntu for it's packaging system.
[02:17] <SanderD> Yukilkyuta: Dappers seems to be available somehow already, so I guess Fx 1.5 will be available sooner too... Well, maybe I just have to compile it myself indeed....
[02:17] <YukiIkyuta> theD3viL, is it just me, or does that site not work.
[02:17] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, Dapper is not ready for quite some time.
[02:17] <bachstudies> YukiIkyuta, is there a way when I copy from NTFS to linux desktop to not have it created as a locked file?
[02:17] <theD3viL> SanderD, then use Debian sid
[02:17] <kvantti> would someone know where to aqcuire the libdca library?
[02:18] <bachstudies> YukiIkyuta, as in not owned by root?
[02:18] <YukiIkyuta> bachstudies, you should set the umask appropriately when you mount it.
[02:18] <bobbyd> hi
[02:18] <SanderD> theD3viL: That's the testing version of Debian? Isn't that what the Drake development version is about too?
[02:18] <YukiIkyuta> bachstudies, just today I had a problem with that, all the directories weren't traversable, so I wrote a script in PHP to fix it.
[02:18] <oNe^somewhere> YukiIkyuta,  will this work .. http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+Win9x+Grub-HOWTO/proc.html#AEN72
[02:18] <bobbyd> what's a good program to use to make webpages for beginners? something like frontpage but not from MS?
[02:19] <oskude> bobbyd, "nvu" (but ive never used it)
[02:19] <YukiIkyuta> oNe^somewhere, unfortunately, not quite.
[02:19] <theD3viL> SanderD, yes...thats debian unstable, but i think in testing (etch) debian is firefox 1.5 too
[02:19] <theD3viL> YukiIkyuta, dont works for me too o.O
[02:19] <bobbyd> can open office save as a web page?
[02:19] <oNe^somewhere> lol ... whats the not quiet bit ?
[02:19] <oskude> bobbyd, yes (i think:)
[02:19] <alex__> how can I see the log file, in the router cisco?
[02:19] <YukiIkyuta> oNe^somewhere, its setup is a bit different to Ubuntu's.
[02:20] <SanderD> theD3viL: ok... Can't I download and install a .deb and file for debian unstable then?
[02:20] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, that's the smart thing to do! xD
[02:20] <kvantti> so, now i just need to get libdca installed so if someone would help it would greatly be appreciated :) the package is at http://pessoal.onda.com.br/rjamorim/libdca.rar                                and it provides functional 5.1 sound with libdvdcss which makes possible to play encrypted dvd's
[02:20] <oNe^somewhere> so i need the live cd to reinstall windows and grub then ?
[02:20] <theD3viL> SanderD, no if you wanna have new packages install debian testing (etch)
[02:20] <mjcg> Hello
[02:21] <mjcg> ;)
[02:21] <mjcg> Bye bye!
[02:21] <YukiIkyuta> oNe^somewhere, or the install CD should work too... I think.
[02:21] <kvantti> about the strange url: the library is extremely rare
[02:21] <SanderD> theD3viL: But then I'd have to reinstall my OS... Well, maybe I should just compile it then. Thanks for the info!
[02:21] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, no!
[02:22] <oNe^somewhere> last time i tried the install cd it had no entries in the grub menu and as i am fairly new to linux (and grub) i wasn't sure how to edit them
[02:22] <theD3viL> If i upgrade debian or ubuntu ... where goes old packages and files??
[02:22] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, you don't have to reinstall the packages.
[02:22] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, I mean, you don't have to reinstall the OS. You can use etch's deb.
[02:22] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, I'll get the address for you..
[02:22] <SanderD> yes? okay :-)
[02:23] <theD3viL> YukiIkyuta, If i upgrade debian or ubuntu ... where goes old packages and files??
[02:23] <Mabus06> Are there official "breezy badger" images anywhere that would be suitable for backgrounds and/or login screen?
[02:23] <kyncani> theD3viL: into oblivion
[02:23] <oNe^somewhere> or is it even possible to make a install cd from my current installation (to save downloading packages again) ?
[02:23] <RustyJames> oNe^somewhere, if you want to save the bootmenu you have to save the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:23] <YukiIkyuta> theD3viL, I'm not quite sure if they go anywhere at all.
[02:23] <theD3viL> kyncani, what is oblivion?
[02:23] <YukiIkyuta> heh!
[02:23] <RustyJames> or whereever your boot partition is
[02:24] <kyncani> theD3viL: they get deleted !
[02:24] <rraajj> How do I take a screenshot in Kubuntu? The print screen button doesn't work, which is weird.
[02:24] <theD3viL> kyncani, sure ?
[02:24] <_jason> rraajj, you could use the gimp, for a button you could try to ask in #kubuntu
[02:24] <YukiIkyuta> Okay..
[02:24] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Ff%2Ffirefox%2Ffirefox_1.4.99%2B1.5rc3.dfsg-2_i386.deb&md5sum=27e677c62e04ca92ec8d40dd15e2c0d3&arch=i386&type=main
[02:24] <kvantti> sorry about that false url http://debian.unnet.nl/pub/videolan/libdts/0.0.2/libdts-0.0.2.tar.gz                    i really need help with installing this, pleease.
[02:24] <YukiIkyuta> What a mouthful.
[02:24] <rraajj> _jason: Okay, thanks!
[02:25] <kyncani> theD3viL: for packages which are upgraded, yes.
[02:25] <kyncani> theD3viL: and you can use debfoster to remove old dependencies.
[02:25] <Mabus06> Are there official "breezy badger" images anywhere that would be suitable for backgrounds and/or login screen?
[02:25] <SanderD> Yukilkyuta: Thanks! Though that's RC3, but I'll look for the final version there (maybe that hasn't been released in Etch yet?)
[02:25] <oNe^somewhere> RustyJames, do u have 5 mins for a pm ?
[02:26] <oNe^somewhere> maybe less
[02:26] <YukiIkyuta> Uh..
[02:26] <YukiIkyuta> Hm.
[02:26] <RustyJames> oNe^somewhere, yes
[02:26] <oNe^somewhere> k
[02:26] <theD3viL> kyncani, eh...that too bad...when will be new version ill format
[02:26] <oNe^somewhere> can u pm me plz
[02:26] <RustyJames> k
[02:26] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, it doesn't look like it's been released here yet, no.
[02:26] <oNe^somewhere> <---not registered (yet)
[02:26] <sorush20> is there a way that I could search a partition for deleted files?
[02:26] <bachstudies> YukiIkyuta, I have successfully changed some of my files and directories to 755 but the subdirectories don't change...is there a quick way to fix this?
[02:27] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, taking a quick look over them all, it doesn't look like it's yet in Etch.
[02:27] <theD3viL> sorush20, i think isnt
[02:27] <kyncani> theD3viL: in ubuntu and debian stable, new versions only fix security fixes. So they (should not) introduce new bugs.
[02:27] <YukiIkyuta> bachstudies, chmod -R 0755 (wherever)
[02:27] <oNe^somewhere> damn ...it dont work
[02:27] <YukiIkyuta> whereever*
[02:27] <sorush20> theD3viL: why?
[02:27] <sorush20>  there must be a way
[02:27] <bachstudies> YukiIkyuta, great thanks
[02:27] <SanderD> Yukilkyuta, I'll just keep watching that page. Thanks for the link!
[02:27] <YukiIkyuta> SanderD, good luck!
[02:27] <oskude> kvantti, i can help you to compile, but i cant say if it will work...
[02:28] <_jason> sorush20, it is complicated, may or may not work and I have never tried it: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Ext2fs-Undeletion.html#s2 and http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Ext2fs-Undeletion-Dir-Struct.html
[02:28] <RustyJames> whats the problrm?
[02:28] <kvantti> oskude thankyou very much. the ./configure just ran with no errors
[02:28] <theD3viL> kyncani, no..example: ooo1.4 > ooo2.0
[02:28] <theD3viL> sorush20, couse ext3 doesnt support that
[02:28] <theD3viL> sorush20, windows does, ntfs does
[02:28] <oskude> kvantti, ok, then do "make"
[02:28] <oNe^somewhere> i dont know
[02:29] <sorush20> theD3viL: damn
[02:29] <RustyJames> oNe^somewhere, join channel  #grubproblem
[02:29] <kyncani> theD3viL: that only happen when you switch from one ubuntu release to another. Not during and apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:29] <kvantti> oskude and make install?
[02:29] <oskude> kvantti, wait a sec
[02:29] <kvantti> oskude i believe it did no run for everything, is this ok?
[02:29] <theD3viL> kyncani, yes when dist-upgrade .. i know...
[02:30] <sorush20> hi
[02:30] <oskude> kvantti, im not a pro, but i would advice to use "sudo checkinstall" instead of "sudo make install"
[02:30] <oskude> kvantti, that way you can uninstall it with "dpkg -r <packagenam>" but
[02:30] <kvantti> oskude the checkinstall command is not found..missing lib?
[02:30] <oskude> kvantti, most sources bring allso "make uninstall" so take what you want :)
[02:31] <sorush20> theD3viL: I partitioned all my data into a smaller partition, then used the free space to create a hda2,
[02:31] <oskude> kvantti, "sudo apt-get install checkinstall"
[02:31] <deltron> apt-get install chckinstall
[02:31] <sorush20> theD3viL: then I copied my files from the hda1 to hda2,
[02:31] <topyli> checkinstall will save the world's children!
[02:32] <deltron> lol
[02:32] <oskude> kvantti, when you use check install, remember to give it a name an a version NUMBER (it will ask for you then)
[02:32] <theD3viL> sorush20, ... what do you want to tell with this ?
[02:32] <oskude> kvantti, eeh, "checkinstall"
[02:33] <sorush20> theD3viL: all my files were about 60gb, when I partitioned my data into smaller 60gb partitions all the root directories were there but the files and other subfolders are missing, this is why I want to be able to find out what has happened to my files?
[02:33] <topyli> sorush20: you didn't copy them
[02:33] <kvantti> oskude thankyou very much i had been wondering about compiling "installation succesfull"
[02:33] <sorush20> topyli: what do you mean?
[02:33] <topyli> sorush20: cp will omit directories unless you use -a
[02:34] <bamboozle> hi
[02:34] <oskude> kvantti, but its not yet quarantieed that it will work on your (ubuntu) system...
[02:34] <YukiIkyuta> topyli, -r is better for that.
[02:34] <kvantti> oskude, yeah i think it did not install in "libavcodec" which is the right one, so i will try some cp
[02:34] <topyli> sorush20: -r like YukiIkyuta says of course
[02:34] <oskude> kvantti, sec
[02:35] <oskude> kvantti, you can give "./configure" some flags to put all in right places try "./configure --help"
[02:36] <topyli> kvantti: if you make packages (with checkinstall), you may want to install the packages in /usr. so, use .configure --prefix=/usr
[02:36] <sorush20> topyli: but I used the partition tool to copy all the data and also initially I chose the option to create a partition from the free space and not the used which meant that my original used space hda1  should have remained intact.
[02:36] <oskude> kvantti, self compiled (generic) sources are mostly "installed" to /usr/local/
[02:36] <sorush20> topyli: theD3viL http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5261
[02:36] <topyli> sorush20: which partition tool? in the installer?
[02:37] <NuK> somebody help me
[02:37] <NuK> ubuntu is setting my clock to GMT in the bios every boot
[02:37] <YukiIkyuta> NuK, sudo tzconfig?
[02:38] <NuK> YukiIkyuta, timezone is set rigtht
[02:38] <topyli> sorush20: oh i dunno, i've never seen a tool like that :)
[02:38] <sorush20> topyli: yes in the installer
[02:38] <NuK> YukiIkyuta, also, ubuntu clock is right
[02:38] <kvantti> oskude so i did sudo ./configure --prefix=/usr/local and sudo checkinstall. correct?
[02:38] <YukiIkyuta> Hmm..
[02:38] <NuK> YukiIkyuta, its just an anoying service that put my bios clock go GMT
[02:38] <sorush20> topyli: but I've now captured this png from the gparted
[02:38] <topyli> sorush20: haven't copied with it either. if it fails it's a bug of course
[02:39] <oskude> kvantti, i heard someone say "--prefix=/usr" is "ubuntu" way
[02:39] <NuK> how do i see the list of services that loads at boot time?
[02:39] <kvantti> oskude ok will try that too if it still wont work. allthough i am beginning to believe that this is "impossible"
[02:39] <lachesis> anyone can tell me how to mount my hard drive using a live cd ? Its a LVM partitions that appear as /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-boot in my fstab.
[02:40] <oskude> kvantti, impossible not, you (we/i) just have to know the right places for right files...
[02:40] <lachesis> /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-*r*oot I meant
[02:41] <kvantti> oskude i wonder what libavcodec is since locate does not give any such objects
[02:41] <oskude> kvantti, dunno, just a package name ?
[02:42] <kvantti> oskude it says "dts" not found in "libavcodec"
[02:42] <kvantti> oskude but it looks by synaptic it really is a codec/package. well, more searching
[02:43] <oskude> kvantti, did you do try with "--prefix=/usr" ?
[02:43] <Murrlin> hello everyone.
[02:43] <Murrlin> fo
[02:44] <Murrlin> oops
[02:44] <oskude> :) hi
[02:44] <Murrlin> I don't have net over LAN at this time. I've done the exact same steps as I have before with every distro I've put on machine #2...
[02:45] <Murrlin> perhaps u 5.10 is a bit different
[02:47] <McScruff> lo, i just installed vmware and the vmware any-any-update96 and got his error when i went to start a virtual machine http://www.geocities.com/respectdoggfather/snapshot1.png
[02:48] <YukiIkyuta> McScruff, it's outdated.
[02:49] <kvantti> oskude yes i give it a go but it might be that the only thing i need is ffmpeg since it contains libavcodec..so i might try to install that first, and then retry with the dts library
[02:49] <McScruff> Yukilkyuta. o you know what the latest one is?
[02:50] <oskude> kvantti, i allso read in the README of that libdts that only VLC uses that library...
[02:50] <iustin> thank you cause i succeded playing mp3 and other formats
[02:50] <kvantti> oskude very nice..well right now i might got good vlc and rotten mplayer which is the one i wanna use =)
[02:50] <YukiIkyuta> McScruff, it's the kernel module that's outdated, that's all.
[02:51] <McScruff> so... how do i fix that then
[02:51] <YukiIkyuta> McScruff, you need to reinstall it! did you install it properly first time around?
[02:51] <McScruff> yes
[02:51] <YukiIkyuta> It looks like the vmmod kernel module is out of date.
[02:51] <YukiIkyuta> (not compatible with the software)
[02:51] <McScruff> i have only just installed it....
[02:51] <McScruff> ffs, time to check forums
[02:51] <YukiIkyuta> McScruff, something's definitely up! what was that any-any-update96 thing you talk about?
[02:51] <deltron> how well does the vmware work on linux?
[02:52] <YukiIkyuta> deltron, as well as it does under Windows.
[02:52] <deltron> cool
[02:52] <McScruff> deltron, it works very well
[02:52] <boo> SEXOTRON
[02:52] <McScruff> Yukilkyuta. i will install without the anyany update
[02:52] <YukiIkyuta> boo, agreeably.
[02:52] <YukiIkyuta> McScruff, good luck.
[02:54] <richard> I can't believe how easy this connected
[02:54] <YukiIkyuta> McScruff, can I ask why you used the update?
[02:54] <McScruff> coz its the only way it worked before
[02:55] <YukiIkyuta> ahoora, I see..
[02:56] <McScruff> wohoo vmware fixed the bug that ment we needed the update
[02:56] <YukiIkyuta> Neat! ^^
[02:56] <McScruff> time to install win98 :)
[02:56] <YukiIkyuta> XD!
[02:56] <K_Dallas> Q: How do i make ubuntu activate my netwrok device on the boot up? Right now i have to open networking and activate eth0 each time i boot up. thanks
[02:56] <YukiIkyuta> Did you actually buy VMware? o.O
[02:57] <McScruff> im using the trial :P
[02:57] <YukiIkyuta> Ah. -_-
[02:57] <McScruff> coz software piracy i wrong!!
[02:57] <YukiIkyuta> Aheh! xP
[02:57] <aptiko> I'm trying install Ubuntu using LVM (first time I try LVM) and there are some things I don't understand.  What kind of partitions do I need to create before selecting "Configure the Logical Volume Manager"?
[02:57] <YukiIkyuta> deltron, it definitely should.
[02:57] <McScruff> deltron, its perfect for the apps wine wont run
[02:57] <YukiIkyuta> aptiko, try going to `Use guided partitioning'
[02:58] <mirak> anyone nkow how to configure lxr ?
[02:58] <YukiIkyuta> aptiko, then `erase harddrive (some harddrive) and use LVM'
[02:58] <deltron> I've never really tried wine
[02:58] <aptiko> YukiIkyuta:  I don't want to erase the hard drive; I want LVM to use a partition of the drive.  Is that possible?
[02:58] <deltron> that reminds me, I wanted to find out what LVM was
[02:59] <YukiIkyuta> deltron, it allows resizing of partitions and such while the harddrive is online, and in use.
[02:59] <iustin> there is something similar to task manager from windows (cause a program crashed and i want to force kill it)
[02:59] <iustin> ?
[02:59] <deltron> oh, that is pretty cool :)
[02:59] <McScruff> iustin open konsole and type kill xxxx
[02:59] <McScruff> xxxx = app
[03:00] <iustin> thanks so much
[03:00] <iustin> app = vlc
[03:00] <McScruff> or press ctrl and esc
[03:00] <iustin> i write vlc?
[03:00] <YukiIkyuta> McScruff, that won't work, typically.
[03:00] <YukiIkyuta> try ``killall vlc''
[03:00] <iustin> thx
[03:00] <McScruff> i use the gui :P
[03:00] <deltron> there's a gui to top
[03:01] <deltron> anyone running ubuntu 64 on a laptop?
[03:01] <YukiIkyuta> deltron, not on a laptop, but yes for ubuntu 64.
[03:01] <YukiIkyuta> I wish I had a 64-bit laptop.
[03:01] <iustin> :(( don`t work to kill it
[03:02] <deltron> I just got a new laptop since Best Buy broke mine :)  (previous one was also a 64 bit laptop though)
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> I got a 64bit laptop - and run 32bit ubuntu on it. :P
[03:02] <YukiIkyuta> iustin, then, try killall -9 vlc
[03:02] <YukiIkyuta> Dr_Willis, why..?
[03:02] <deltron> yeah, why?
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> YukiIkyuta,  too many little annoyances.
[03:03] <YukiIkyuta> Really?
[03:03] <deltron> install 64, then chroot into a 32 when needed
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> cedega, flash, lets see what else...
[03:03] <YukiIkyuta> I've just installed amd64 Ubuntu today, and it's been fine.
[03:03] <YukiIkyuta> Meh~
[03:03] <deltron> yeah, that's true :P
[03:03] <deltron> how well does cedega work?
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> what do you really 'gain' from 64bit is the next question.
[03:03] <YukiIkyuta> Dr_Willis, future-compatibility.
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> Cedega works decently well. but theres a lot of people upset with the latest 5.0
[03:04] <kvantti> ok so the only real solve i found for the rear speakers not functioning (tried out with speaker-test -Dlug:surround51 -c6) too was getting the essential-codec package for mplayer. could some user with 5.1 sound in ubuntu describe, if any, the methods he(she has used
[03:04] <deltron> does world of warcraft work on it?
[03:04] <deltron> hehe
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> YukiIkyuta,  from what i have 'heard' one of the main benifits of 64bit is addressing a large amount or ram.
[03:04] <YukiIkyuta> Dr_Willis, well, yes, that's the primary benefit.
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> deltron,  WoW used to work on 4.X decently well.. but still minor annoyances.
[03:04] <YukiIkyuta> You can also manipulate numbers up to some.. large amount.
[03:04] <YukiIkyuta> 2^64, as primary types.
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> GuildWars also worked 'ok'
[03:04] <psycho666> i can't find a way to restart inetd
[03:05] <K_Dallas> Q: How do i make ubuntu activate my netwrok device on the boot up? Right now i have to open networking and activate eth0 each time i boot up. thanks
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> but all it takes is a few little anoyances to make ya want to boot to windows instead.
[03:05] <deltron> psycho666: /etc/init.d/inetd restart ?
[03:05] <imterro> hi, what plugin do i need to play .rm files?
[03:05] <Hentai^XP> is there a calender for ubuntu?
[03:05] <Hentai^XP> or comes with it?
[03:05] <sorush20> hi
[03:05] <deltron> I'm gonna tri-boot my laptop :P
[03:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hentai^XP: click the calander in the corner
[03:05] <psycho666> Delgul: i didn't find this script on my init.d
[03:05] <K_Dallas> Hentai^Remote, evolution, korganiser, cal
[03:05] <kvantti> so, to install mplayer codecs, do i just cp to lib/codecs?
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> Hentai^XP,  ya can click on the little clock/date and get one.
[03:05] <YukiIkyuta> Dr_Willis,  I don't have Windows on there. xP
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> oops. :P
[03:05] <Hentai^XP> Kamping_Kaiser which corner?
[03:05] <psycho666> deltron : i didn't find this script on my init.d
[03:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hentai^ top right
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> YukiIkyuta,  you aint an MMORPG addict then. :P
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> on a defalut system
[03:06] <ompaul> Dec 01  Ian Jackson became Debian Project Leader, 1997
[03:06] <YukiIkyuta> Definitely not. ^^
[03:06] <imterro> what plugin do i need to play .rm files?
[03:06] <imterro> anyone?
[03:06] <deltron> psycho666: hmm, guess not :P
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> imterro: install realplayer
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> imterro,  real media = real player
[03:06] <kvantti> that would be usr/local/codecs
[03:06] <ompaul> imterro, you need to use realplayer
[03:06] <psycho666> deltron: sorry ?
[03:06] <rohan> hi all
[03:06] <deltron> psycho666: i have no clue :P
[03:07] <rohan> does ubuntu live cd have gparted ?
[03:07] <rohan> if not, know of any live cd which does ?
[03:07] <rohan> not qtparted, gparted
[03:07] <K_Dallas> rohan, systemrescueCD or something like that, it has nice tools for recovery etc including partitioner
[03:07] <kvantti> i got corrupted sound in mplayer with a terratec aureon and logitech x530. any help?
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> logitech x530 ?
[03:08] <rohan> K_Dallas: but ubuntu cd does not have it ? :(
[03:08] <rohan> i was preferably looking for a relatively small live cd
[03:08] <rohan> :(
[03:08] <frogzoo> rohan: dsl mebbe or puppy
[03:09] <rohan> frogzoo: neither. i tried.
[03:09] <frogzoo> or knoppix of course
[03:09] <rohan> K_Dallas: it does not have gparted
[03:09] <rohan> frogzoo: it does not have gparted
[03:09] <rohan> qtparted has trashed my disk twice
[03:09] <frogzoo> rohan: rip has it I think (checks)
[03:09] <rohan> hmm... whats the easiest way to copy partitions ?
[03:09] <rohan> dd ?
[03:10] <rohan> i want to move hdc7 to hdc1
[03:10] <rohan> what should hdc1 be ? free space ? reiser system ?
[03:10] <kyncani> rohan: cp -a is very convenient i think
[03:10] <rohan> whats the optimal use of dd ?
[03:10] <sorush20> any data recovery program for linux ext3
[03:10] <rohan> kyncani: wont dd be safer ?
[03:10] <rohan> kyncani: and faster
[03:11] <frogzoo> rohan: don't trust dd with your data - it's a bad plan - use tar or cpio
[03:11] <kyncani> rohan: cp is very safe, it can transfer data regardless of source and dest partition types. Plus, cp only copy real data, not empty fs blocks.
[03:12] <kyncani> rohan: and it's a simple and effective solution :)
[03:12] <rohan> kyncani: ah, ok.,
[03:12] <K_Dallas> kyncani, isnt there a safer version of CP out there? someone once suggested it to me specially for transferring data between ntfs and linux but cannot remember the name of the command
[03:12] <rohan> kyncani: wow! i can copy reiser stuff to reiser4, that way ?
[03:12] <rohan> K_Dallas: ntfs ?! as in, ntfs write ? great
[03:12] <YukiIkyuta> rohan, it's just the generic copy!
[03:13] <YukiIkyuta> rohan, **no** ntfs write.
[03:13] <K_Dallas> rohan, from ntfs ro etx3
[03:13] <rob^^^> does anyone know what could cause you to get a DHCP_NAK but no lease?
[03:13] <frogzoo> rohan: you were asking earlier - RIP has parted - not sure if this is the same as gparted
[03:13] <kyncani> rohan: like YukiIkyuta said, cp will just copy files, almost as if you copied them from nautilus
[03:13] <rob^^^> It worked fine yesterday and I haven't changed any network settings
[03:13] <YukiIkyuta> rob^^^, a faulty DHCP server? :) i'm kidding.
[03:13] <rob^^^> and it works fine in windows...
[03:13] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I'd like to set an automatic start for a script when I press a specific key. What programs can i use?
[03:13] <rob^^^> and these are the campus-wide dhcp servers which work fine with my breezy and warty machines
[03:14] <rohan> ok, kyncani
[03:15] <rohan> thanks a lot , kyncani frogzoo K_Dallas and YukiIkyuta
[03:15] <rohan> wish ubuntu live includes gparted / qtparted :(
[03:15] <rohan> :P
[03:15] <slept>  Alex_BO, in X  you can use hotkeys and define the key, with xev you can read the number of a key
[03:15] <redguy|work^> anyone know where I can find GATOS km kernel module?
[03:15] <icemilo> where should i put  my html files for apache2?
[03:16] <YukiIkyuta> good luck rohan. ^^
[03:16] <lachesis> I need to find a way to backup my data from ubuntu LVM volume on a broken system, any idea ?
[03:16] <frogzoo> lachesis: dl RIP
[03:16] <redguy|work^> sure, i can compile it, but wanted to know if it prebiuld in some package
[03:16] <redguy|work^> s/prebuld/is prebuilt/
[03:16] <lachesis> the livecd doesnt seem to be able to mount LVM volume...
[03:16] <Alex_BO> slept, hotkeys? System>Keyboard Shortcuts?
[03:17] <lachesis> frogzoo, thx checking it out right now
[03:17] <lachesis> rip recovery is possible
[03:17] <icemilo> can someone please read my message..
[03:17] <lachesis> shit
[03:17] <icemilo> -_-;
[03:17] <slept> Alex_BO, no its a package , never used System>Keyboard Shortcuts, that might work aswell
[03:18] <lachesis> sorry wrong window
[03:18] <Alex_BO> slept, okey.i'm gonna download it.thank you for now.
[03:19] <slept> lachesis, mounting works for me with the live cd . Do you use Knoppix?
[03:19] <frogzoo> icemilo: either /var/www or ~/.something - should be in apache conf
[03:20] <definity> hi
[03:20] <kvantti> i have solved my 5.1 problem for as far as there is no distortion, but right now the problem still is that the "dts" is not found in "libavcodec". a solve plz?
[03:20] <lachesis> slept : no, ubuntu's livecd but can you mount LVM volume ?
[03:20] <slept> yes
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> icemilo: /var/www is root by defalut
[03:21] <thenuke> hmm, is there any good guide for a beginner to install ubuntu?
[03:21] <Alex_BO> slept, hotkeys: You must set the keyboard type, use hotkeys -t <type> to set it.         I know the keycode yet.
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> or ~/public_html for a /~yourusername
[03:21] <thenuke> And yes i know that it is pretty simple for me example because I know something about computers :P but someone who does not know about anything might want to have somekind of guide
[03:22] <lachesis> slept, I can try downloading the lastest livecd then, mine is a bit old now
[03:23] <lachesis> slept : can you also explain me the command i need to type to mount the LVM volume as my understanding if LVM management is near inexistant. Or is it mounted automaticaly ?
[03:23] <slept> lachesis, did you try pvscan
[03:23] <Alex_BO> slept, well i know the keycode yet: e055. i'd like to associate this key to a shell script
[03:24] <dewitte> end
[03:24] <lachesis> nope
[03:24] <Alex_BO> slept, is hotkey the right program?
[03:24] <slept> Alex_BO, you can generate your own keyboardfile, just copy a existing one and fit your needs
[03:25] <icemilo> Kamping_Kaiser: its not in apache.conf;
[03:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> icemilo: apache or apache 2? doesnt matter i suppose, that's where those 2 dirs go
[03:26] <lachesis> slept : my livecd is a hoary, i m booting it up to try but i ll download the new live cd and try again if it does not work
[03:26] <aDre|ita> ulaa
[03:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> the extra modules or whatever is what you have to play with, but i forget what they are
[03:27] <icemilo> Kamping_Kaiser: apache2
[03:27] <theD3viL> Kamping_Kaiser, you must now that :) ..hey btw :) ... where goes OLD packages and files when i upgrade ubuntu?
[03:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> icemilo: i realised i have left my custom server away, so i cant look it up  :(
[03:27] <Toma-> Yo, how do you install gnome icons from tar.gz?
[03:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> theD3viL: hi mate, wtf was your question? ;)
[03:27] <frogzoo> theD3viL: set the option in Synaptic to trash pkgs from cache not in repos
[03:27] <icemilo> ...
[03:27] <slept> Alex_BO, do dpkg -L hotkeys or read the man page to find out where the files are. then copy one that fits best your keyboard and correct the keycodes. you can associate the keycodes with wathever programm or script you like
[03:28] <theD3viL> Kamping_Kaiser, where goes packages when i dist-upgrade system ... old packages ?
[03:28] <Alex_BO> slept, thank you so much.now i'm looking to it
[03:28] <theD3viL> frogzoo, hm..? wait a sec
[03:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> theD3viL: if you upgrade to Breezy, your Hoary packages get delted
[03:28] <frogzoo> theD3viL: it's under "files"
[03:28] <slept> lachesis, do you have a irc connection while doing that ?
[03:29] <frogzoo> theD3viL: settings -> prefs -> files
[03:29] <lachesis> yeah debian on my desktop dont have any problem... its my laptop thats broken.
[03:29] <theD3viL> Kamping_Kaiser, iam not upgraded..will upgraded too daper .. when it will be relased...
[03:29] <_penguin> hello all, I'm getting the double clock speed problem on my laptop (as well as cursor blinking double fast, bouncing busy icon bouncing double speed)..
[03:30] <theD3viL> frogzoo, yes i see...which? 1,2,3 ? :P
[03:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> theD3viL: next year
[03:30] <_penguin> I've tried various things like no_timer_check noapictimer etc to no avail; is there any update on this bug?
[03:30] <frogzoo> theD3viL: if you just upgraded, probably just click "clear cache" and then select 3
[03:30] <theD3viL> frogzoo, ill do that when ill upgraded...
[03:31] <frogzoo> theD3viL: but your hoary pkgs were deleted when you changed repos, so just pick 3
[03:31] <theD3viL> Kamping_Kaiser, frogzoo: what about depencies ?
[03:31] <lachesis> slept, I did pvscan and it worked : i get PV /dev/hda5     VG Ubuntu  lvm2 [37Gb/0 free]
[03:32] <frogzoo> theD3viL: don't sweat it - just upgrade & it all works
[03:32] <slept> lachesis, lvscan
[03:32] <slept> lachesis, mount /dev/mapper/... /mnt
[03:32] <theD3viL> frogzoo, i just asking..
[03:32] <_penguin> um ok....how about any work on when 2.6.13 will be released?
[03:32] <_penguin> s/work/word
[03:33] <lachesis> slept, yeah !!! Well done, i could mount my drive ! thanx so much.
[03:36] <JulienH> Hi all
[03:37] <_penguin> man this comm sucks ass, no wonder I was so quick to pop back in my gentoo cd last time I was here
[03:37] <JulienH> Is there a specific version of Ubuntu for servers ?
[03:37] <definity> lol
[03:38] <slept> JulienH, you can do a server install or use debian
[03:39] <max__> hi
[03:39] <potus> JulienH: u can just boot cd and type command 'server' when u see boot:
[03:39] <potus> that will give u bear console.
[03:39] <potus> having porblems with cups tho so i am installing kde just got the cups gui =/
[03:39] <definity> any good linux hacking tutorials for beginners?
[03:40] <potus> definity: yeah unix bible
[03:40] <potus> start with that
[03:40] <potus> =P
[03:40] <JulienH> potus: ok thanks :)
[03:40] <slept> potus, use http://localhost:631
[03:40] <max__> how can i play mp3 with amarok?
[03:40] <potus> slept: i tried it keeps saying access denied
[03:40] <definity> potus:  thanks :)
[03:40] <slept> :(
[03:41] <max__> ...
[03:41] <max__> ???
[03:41] <kyncani> !tell max__ about mp3
[03:42] <JulienH> But is there any difference during the installation when typing "server" after the boot prompt ?
[03:42] <jbroome> JulienH: it's a minimal install with no GUI
[03:42] <Toma-> definity: http://kernelnewbies.org/ is a good place to get started hacking
[03:42] <MickMcMack> JulienH, that will install no X.
[03:42] <frogzoo> JulienH: all the guid stuff isn't installed
[03:42] <jbroome> apt-get install what you want/need for your server
[03:43] <frogzoo> JulienH: unless you want a hard core server box, just use the standard install & run whatever services
[03:43] <potus> JulienH: the difference is your not gonna have the GUI just the console.. e.g. black and white
[03:43] <NiklasH_1ork> hi, anyone else having problems with mozilla-firefox? It won't start on one of my boxes, and both run an up to date system with linux-686
[03:44] <JulienH> frogzoo: it will be a dedicated server plugged in a datacenter
[03:44] <potus> JulienH: once u get their ur going to want to do apt-get install openssh-server
[03:44] <boo> are there any alternative programs to wine?
[03:44] <potus> that will make it so u can ssh into the box and figure out whatever else u gotta do =)
[03:44] <JulienH> frogzoo: We used to install Debian, I'm just interested about Ubuntu
[03:44] <frogzoo> boo - Crossover Office - it's commercial though
[03:44] <mjr> boo, not really as such (except the derivatives CrossOver Office and Cedega)
[03:44] <mjr> boo, what did you want to do?
[03:44] <boo> play games =/
[03:45] <K_Dallas> cedega should be helpfull then
[03:45] <Murrlin> don't we all? :D
[03:45] <frogzoo> NiklasH_1ork: no probs on ff 1.07 386
[03:45] <max__> umm...
[03:45] <boo> crossover office isnt good for games?
[03:45] <K_Dallas> boo, never tried it but cedega is specialized for game
[03:46] <boo> SWEET it works with bf2 omg
[03:46] <frogzoo> JulienH: in some ways, ubuntu is better for server purposes than debian because of the package stability
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> boo,  compared to cedega, id have to say yes. - Different "focus" on the  development.
[03:46] <holycow> frogzoo, wtf are you smoking
[03:46] <jbroome> frogzoo: yeah, debian sarge is *way* too cutting edge for servers.
[03:46] <holycow> if you think breezy is anything but a disaster for example, then you need to reconsider
[03:46] <boo> haha if they have this, remind me why everyone doesnt use linux?
[03:47] <holycow> also server products cannot be released on a 6 month interval and be considered 'stable'
[03:47] <theD3viL> What you peoples think about next relases of ubuntu...will be corrupted like Fedora, Mandriva etc. or will work that fast right now?
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> boo,  its not 100% working all the time for a start
[03:47] <boo> oh :(
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> boo,  every update of World of Warcraft seems to break somthing else with cedega. :(
[03:47] <RustyJames> !tell
[03:47] <frogzoo> holycow: for just the standard stuff, breezy is very nice
[03:47] <boo> MMOs suck, fps own :)
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> then again every Update of WoW seems to break WoW also.
[03:47] <boo> heh
[03:47] <potus> frogzoo: yeah it is
[03:47] <potus> =)
[03:48] <boo> cal-i bf2 cal-m css :)
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> boo,  I get better looking GFX  in native windows then cedega also. SAdly.
[03:48] <potus> if i installed kubuntu-desktop.  i should have all the gnome printer administration packages via default correct?
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> but that fact that the games are playable is impressive.
[03:48] <theD3viL> Dr_Willis, you always can install win on second partition :)
[03:49] <potus> i already install cups , and samba. via apt before i installed kdesktop
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> theD3viL,  i got it on my SATA Drive #1. :P Linux is on its own IDE drive.
[03:49] <boo> ah graphics quality should be an issue, i have a good card.
[03:49] <boo> how exactly does it work?
[03:49] <theD3viL> Dr_Willis, why you dont play wow in win =?
[03:49] <potus> i got 6600GT it sucks
[03:50] <potus> i wont buy another gfx card.. ill stick to xbox 360 =)
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> theD3viL,  gotten where I dont Play WoW at alll - its gotten to be a Major "annoyance" to play.
[03:50] <Toma-> anyone know how to select a gtk engine?
[03:50] <BigKahuna> !moodin
[03:50] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, BigKahuna
[03:50] <boo> haha potus..dont they overheat?
[03:50] <potus> idk i didnt have a problem with my first one.. i just sold it on ebay to make a few dollars.
[03:50] <potus> but computer games never worked right for me i got a top notch pc and they still look horrible
[03:50] <theD3viL> Dr_Willis, f**k games, you always can help peoples on "ubuntu and www.ubuntuforums.org :P
[03:51] <frogzoo> does ubuntu run on the 360 yet ?
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> theD3viL,  yep. thats about all i do.
[03:51] <potus> amd 64 1.8, 1 gig ram, 74g raptor, 6600gt and battlefield 2 still looks shacky
[03:51] <potus> shakey*
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> theD3viL,  now ya know why i feel that most MMOROGS are treadmill games with a chat room running on top of them.
[03:51] <theD3viL> Dr_Willis, same that me .. :) .. i have gaim too..but ... ;)
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> theD3viL,  IM clients are Evil! Irc is the Truth to chatting nirvana
[03:52] <Toma-> anyone know how to select a gtk engine?
[03:52] <theD3viL> Dr_Willis, tell that to my girlfriend :)
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> theD3viL,  now having HOT webcam "relationships" is ok. ;P
[03:53] <boo> ok, im trying to install cedega, ihave a cedega 5.0 tgz, a tgfontinstall and a tgmozctl install. what do i do (ive never installed anything before)
[03:53] <DrBair> is anyone else out there having issues with clearlooks or human engines crashing evolution calendar?
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> boo,  read the cedega intall docs at the cedega homepage yet?
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> boo, i assume you bought it ?
[03:53] <boo> im at a internet cafe, yes
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> boo,  you just need the cedega   debian package.
[03:53] <boo> ok
[03:54] <theD3viL> Dr_Willis, loool :)
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> if you are using ubuntu that is.
[03:54] <boo> ok what is that
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> what is what? :P
[03:55] <boo> i dont see any .deb files...in the archive there are lots of directories, like usr opt ect
[03:55] <wickedpuppy> boo, eh ah in the tgz there are usr opt etc ?
[03:55] <boo> yes
[03:55] <theD3viL> Dr_Willis, i dont have webcam :PPP
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> they are there somewhere boo - i used them just the other day
[03:55] <Toma-> anyone know how to select a gtk engine?
[03:56] <clarkee> i should get  a webcam for my ubuntu laptop
[03:56] <potus> whats the best way to make a system backup tar or cpio? i cant seem to get the tar command right. can someone help me make a snapshot?
[03:56] <potus> i need premissions and all saved =/
[03:56] <YukiIkyuta> i'm out!
[03:56] <kyncani> potus: hhm, rsync ?
[03:57] <potus> kyncani: never used it =/
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> potus, rsync is just to sync data in two place ... it will not compress
[03:58] <Rawplayer> LA
[03:58] <Seveas> MI
[03:58] <william__> hey has an update for Firefox 1.5 been done for Ubuntu?
[03:58] <Seveas> william__, no
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> william__, topic
[04:00] <theD3viL> william__, no
[04:00] <theD3viL> william__, /topc
[04:00] <theD3viL> william__, /topic
[04:00] <boo> william__, no they havent.
[04:00] <boo> :)
[04:00] <theD3viL> =)
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> boo ya want the .deb packages :P
[04:00] <dpupp> anyone one else here have problems playing backup DVD's? some of mine after playing for 10 min error out saying pissibly encrypted when i know they are not. and i do have libdvdcss...
[04:00] <boo> im "looking" ;)
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> its right there on the download list :P
[04:01] <boo> where?
[04:01] <boo> this torrent is taking forever
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> torrent>?
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> torrent ?
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> eh ah
[04:01] <boo> im downloading a movie and its taking forever
[04:01] <boo> its been 2 days =/
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> at the cedega home page for 'legal' users - theres a cedega_5.0.1_i386.deb
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:02] <wickedpuppy> whats that got to do with the cedega deb file ?
[04:02] <boo> nothing
[04:02] <boo> lol
[04:03] <boo> link dr willis?
[04:04] <william__> can I ask what dapper is.. just for fun
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> boo its on the cedega site under download.  Cedega is a Comercial product. :P
[04:05] <Toma-> cedega cvs is free game tho
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> Cedega CVS is 'free'
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> but from what i hear the CVS is lacking some 'features'
[04:05] <boo> software should be free!
[04:05] <boo> its not realy anyway
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> boo,  http://happypenguin.org/     - all kinds of free games.
[04:06] <rob^^^> Does anyone here have any kind of understanding as to how network manager ties in with the underlying config files and utils?
[04:07] <rob^^^> It always seems that it shows one thing in ifconfig and another in network manager
[04:07] <boo> why is my torrent going backwards :(
[04:08] <mjr> probably it got an invalid block
[04:08] <thegladiator> hi
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> boo,  its the way porn works.
[04:08] <boo> porn doesnt go from 65% to 51!
[04:08] <MickMcMack> \o/
[04:08] <Toma-> boo: probably some bad checksums
[04:08] <boo> porn goes from 8=D to 8[04:08] <thegladiator> i created a shell script , for mounting my hdd , but it always cautions me whether to run in terminal or display it
[04:08] <beelzebub123_> the people want their stuff back lol
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> boo,  it goes In and out.. then repeats. :P
[04:08] <thegladiator> hwo do i get rid of this ?
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> then bac to 8=D
[04:09] <MickMcMack> I once had a torrent that carried on until 150%. :)
[04:09] <boo> lol
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> thegladiator,  right click on its icons and check its settings.
[04:09] <boo> riaa more like assholes amirite
[04:09] <__filip_> i have an problem, i cant log in to ubuntu, i get an messeage,
[04:09] <boo> im going to dissapear tomorrow
[04:09] <Lardarse> hi, i'm following te instructions here: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Uninstall_ATI_driver
[04:09] <boo> :(
[04:09] <benkong2> how can i tell x to allow multiple x sessions on breezy?
[04:09] <boo> OMG STOP NO
[04:09] <__filip_> that tell me i have not been logged in for more then 10 sec
[04:09] <Lardarse> the first command did nothing
[04:09] <boo> it wasat 85 then back to 53
[04:10] <Lardarse> do i need to do the other 2
[04:10] <Lardarse> ?
[04:10] <thegladiator> Dr_Willis, WHAT DO I NEED TO CHECK IN SETTINGS ?
[04:10] <dpupp> boo, what client are you using?
[04:10] <boo> 21.4 of 7.4 mb
[04:10] <boo> the standard one? i dont know what it is
[04:10] <Toma-> thegladiator: why make a script to mount?
[04:10] <boo> i use azeurus on windows, do they have it for lonux?
[04:10] <dpupp> boo, yes azureus works in linux.
[04:11] <thegladiator> Toma-, to mount my hard disk paritions,
[04:11] <dpupp> thats what i use here.
[04:11] <thegladiator> Toma-, it doesnt do that auto,
[04:11] <Toma-> thegladiator: have you got any idea what fstab is?
[04:11] <boo> w to the OOT
[04:11] <dpupp> want a screenshot boo?
[04:11] <thegladiator> i am a newbie
[04:11] <Toma-> !fstab
[04:11] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[04:12] <boo> eh nah im downloading it now
[04:12] <thegladiator> could u temme something on it ?  a brief primer ? like what it does
[04:12] <thegladiator> okay lemme check it
[04:12] <Toma-> thats a pretty silly ubotu entry actaully.....
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> thegladiator,  I seem to recall a "run in terminal" check box.   or similer thing.   depending on exactly what you are trying to do.
[04:12] <thegladiator> i see... yep thanks