[16:10] <shivek> is there any way to permanentely mount hard drives
[16:10] <Bookman> edbian: no worries, I seem to be running just fine now.
[16:10] <maxagaz> edbian, i have  friend who doesn't know a lot about computer, he had a lot of datas in his windows, and someone reinstalled windows on his system, without saving his datas, he is now looking for a way to restore it. That's why i'm wondering, if he comes with his hard drive to my home, his there a way for me to help him to restore his datas from my ubuntu ?
[16:11] <edbian> maxagaz: (plural of data is data) :)
[16:11] <brunis> magnetron: funny versioning scheme or silly assumptions on my part i guess :)
[16:11] <arand> david__: so the livecd hangs before it comes to the desktop? (That might mean issues later on when you've installed as well...)
[16:11] <kevix> shivek: you add info to /etc/fstab ?
[16:12] <david__> i know...
[16:12] <shivek> kevix: thanks
[16:12] <poopuser> jesus this community is useless.
[16:12] <david__> i get to the select a language, than i click install...a get fuzzy lines...
[16:12] <unixcruiser> why?
[16:12] <Laibsch> funkyHat: googling for that error suggests to me there is something wrong with the Debian/Ubuntu packages
[16:12] <unixcruiser> poopuser?
[16:12] <edbian> maxagaz: Well re-formatting / reinstalling the OS is a re-write.  Usually when a file or "data" is deleted from the drive it is simply marked as deleted instead of actually changing the data to 0's.  When you re-write you do change the data.  To the new data, and no record of the old is kept.  Unfortunately there is no way that I know of to recover from a re-write loss of data :(.
[16:12] <david__> the thing is when i pop in ubuntu 8.04 loader has no problems
[16:12] <Laibsch> funkyHat: relative/absolute path problems
[16:13] <david__> should i install 8.04 and upgrade?
[16:13] <Kangarooo> ohletmeinnowjesu: and before http://pastebin.com/m3ed9e12f sound was working yes? did you tryd also flash? youtube? maybe sound is not only in one programm?
[16:13] <Kangarooo> anyone who knows about sound can help? is in this log http://pastebin.com/m3ed9e12f some soundriver nesecery for sound?
[16:13] <unixcruiser> i think you would better
[16:13] <arand> david__: And you've searched for your computer model and seen if some boot parameters might help you (acpi=off or similar)
[16:13] <shivek> kevix: I'm a newbie! Please give me complete instructions.
[16:13] <funkyHat> Laibsch: oh ok. are you on Jaunty as well? I've not had any problems as far as I can remember (apart from having to force it to recompile a couple of times)
[16:13] <david__> i tired that...
[16:13] <laeg> does anyone know why i'm not being prompted for my sshkey? i 'chmod 700 ~/.ssh', then 'ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 4096' but when i ssh in i'm not prompted for the key, just my user pass. PubkeyAuthentication and RSAAuthenticatio are uncommented in sshd_config?
[16:13] <unixcruiser> shivek what you have problem
[16:13] <unixcruiser> ?
[16:13] <arand> david__: that is always a solution
[16:14] <funkyHat> maxagaz: something here might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[16:14] <david__> i read that fd=false might help
[16:14] <david__> but don't know how to call it
[16:14] <jrib> laeg: you added the key to authorized_keys on the server?
[16:14] <shivek> unixcruiser:I want to permanently mount hard drives
[16:14] <ohletmeinnowjesu> Kangarooo: yeah it was youtube that gave it away
[16:14] <david__> arand thanks for the help...
[16:14] <david__> i will be back in a few
[16:14] <david__> thanks
[16:15] <Laibsch> funkyHat: yes, I'm on Jaunty.  Jaunty has version 2.1.4 and according to Debian's bugtracker, this problem was fixed only in 2.2.2: http://bugs.debian.org/526322
[16:15] <unixcruiser> maybe you need modify /etc/fstab
[16:15] <ohletmeinnowjesu> Kangarooo: it was then that i checked rythmbox
[16:15] <etwt2261> laeg: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[16:15] <unixcruiser> open /etc/fstab with vim
[16:15] <unixcruiser> and
[16:15] <kevix> shivek: the file /etc/fstab lists the hard drive partitions that you want 'mount'ed when you start your operating system (ubuntu)
[16:15] <unixcruiser> modify like this
[16:15] <laeg> jrib: if it's in the guide i did? i'm on the server now - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[16:15] <Laibsch> funkyHat: Probably we need a backport of the fix.  Strange that apparently not many other people are affected (or they gave up)
[16:15] <edbian> shivek: You could make an fstab entry
[16:15] <laeg> etwt2261: tried already, no change
[16:16]  * Mnky mutters about the auto-join on whatever irc program this is
[16:16] <shivek> how can i make fstab entry?
[16:16] <jrib> laeg: you used ssh-copy-id?
[16:16] <etwt2261> laeg: maybe the permissions of the key are too open
[16:16] <funkyHat> Laibsch: ah, I'm not using the version from the repositories, I'm using a deb downloaded from the vbox site
[16:16] <MrStein> Where should I ask about file sharing ? I shared a file and the (WinXP) client prompts for user/pass and does not accept it...
[16:16] <kevix> shivek: so you use a text editor and add 'entries' to enable a new partion to be added when you reboot or restart your system
[16:16] <laeg> jrib: nope
[16:16] <Laibsch> funkyHat: yes, you're lucky ;-)
[16:16]  * Dekko wonders if there's a way to make Ubuntu boot in text mode with the Tux Penguin logo on the top left - like Knoppix does? ;-)
[16:16] <unixcruiser> i will give you some example
[16:16] <jrib> laeg: it's in the guide...
[16:16] <laeg> jrib: because i'm just server side, won't have access to the remote until tomorrow
[16:16] <oskar-> shivek:  "sudoedit /etc/fstab"   but: read documentation before and be very careful
[16:17] <marco_> One thing I really like about ubuntu is that everything runs so fast. And tvtime is fantastic
[16:17] <edbian> shivek: Would you like me to walk you through it?  I think also unixcruiser is talking to you :)
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> Dekko:  thats just the 'framebuffer' being enabled.
[16:17] <MrStein> Dekko: you need framebuffer for that IIRC
[16:17] <kevix> shivek: to see what is currently in the file 'less /etc/fstab' would show you something
[16:17] <ohletmeinnowjesu> Kangarooo: ive updated the pastebin with my alsa info http://pastebin.com/m56b02eed
[16:17] <jrib> laeg: server is where you ssh to, that needs your public key there
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> Dekko:  different disrtos have different logos for that normally
[16:17] <funkyHat> Laibsch: is the bug reported in Launchpad too?
[16:17] <ohletmeinnowjesu> Kangarooo:  noticed the following --->Driver version:     1.0.20 Library version:    1.0.17a Utilities version:  1.0.17
[16:17] <shivek> kevix;when i type it in terminal it says permission denied
[16:17] <laeg> jrib: ok so on the server i'm going to do a ssh-copy-id laeg@ - is it hostname or ip?
[16:17] <ohletmeinnowjesu> Kangarooo: shouldnt they all be the same version?
[16:18] <Laibsch> funkyHat: I'm checking at the moment and inspecting the ChangeLogs, but haven't found anything definitive, et
[16:18] <Laibsch> yet
[16:18] <Dekko> Dr_Willis: Can you tell me more on if I can get Ubuntu to do that somehow (don't care if its the tux or if its a Ubuntu logo or whatever, just no usplash but hires with a small logo - looks VERY cool to me - like old school DOS or something but nicer :D )
[16:18] <shivek> edbian:yes
[16:18] <Kangarooo> ohletmeinnowjesu: are you trying commands like * find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd * from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting ? in log I coulnd recognize any sounddriver in that log. who can join this problem?
[16:18] <kevix> shivek: you need to be root/superuser, so do 'sudo less /etc/fstab' and type your password
[16:18] <edbian> shivek: Alrighty.  Do you know the /dev name of the harddrive?
[16:18] <edbian> shivek: And the partition?
[16:18] <jrib> laeg: no.  You can run ssh-copy-id on the client computer to copy the public key to the server automagically (using password auth presumably).  Or you can just add your pubkey to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server yourself manually
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> Dekko:  dos never did that... :)  theres guides on using the framebuffer in the console out.. I alwyas disable the framebuffer. it just slows down the console.. and can cause other issues.. Unless i do a console-only system
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> !framebuffer | Dekko
[16:19] <IHK> omg.. what are my possibilities if 2 of my buttons doesn't show up in "xev" nor in acpi_listen?
[16:19] <guestadmin> "printer_hostname" how do I find it (installing driver) instructions say "replace 'printer_hostname' with the printer's hostname or IP Address."
[16:19] <IHK> anyone?
[16:19] <funkyHat> kevix: why do you need root to read fstab?
[16:19] <MrStein> msg me if someone knows file sharing and has time ..
[16:19] <edbian> shivek: Here is a great guide if you have any questions along the way / in the future :)
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> IHK:  depends on the mouse..  check dmesg - see if  shows the mouse clicks.. you may need to remap the buttons somehow.
[16:19] <skas_> how do i start an ad-hoc wireless network that people can connect to?
[16:19] <edbian> funkyHat: You need root to edit fstab :)
[16:20] <kevix> funkyHat: on my system I do not.
[16:20] <funkyHat> edbian: I didn't say edit :)
[16:20] <IHK> it's two keyboard key's
[16:20] <jrib> IHK: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> IHK:  google for the exact mouse/linux and see if other disrto sites/wiki pages also discuss it. I have found some very good info on the gentoo wiki pages that helped me getting weird things toing in ubuntu :)
[16:20]  * Dekko Thanks Dr_willis
[16:20] <edbian> funkyHat: To answer your question more directly then: You don't need root to view fstab
[16:20] <Kangarooo> ohletmeinnowjesu: did you checked also sound properties? witch card and driver is put to work?
[16:20] <IHK> ok, i'll try those things
[16:21] <laeg> jrib: the public key right now is server side. why do i need to copy something from the client to the server?
[16:21] <funkyHat> edbian: I was just questioning kevix's advice, but apparently the person he was helping has some weird permissions :P
[16:21] <edbian> funkyHat: Oh, odd.  Nevermind then :)
[16:21] <aboSamoor> I installed 9.04 and the vfat partitions are mounted under /windows and /data I can not find them under places--> computer !
[16:21] <ohletmeinnowjesu> Kangarooo: LOL i just skipped to the last command in the link that you sent me ; the re-load ALSA command...and its working now!
[16:21] <kevix> funkyHat: technically using sudo to less a file is not a problem
[16:21] <laeg> jrib: can't i just do it all server side and take the key on a memory stick?
[16:21] <ohletmeinnowjesu> Kangarooo: lolz
[16:21] <funkyHat> aboSamoor: they are in "filesystem"
[16:21] <jrib> laeg: please call server the computer running sshd that you are connecting to and client for the computer you are using the ssh client to connect to the server.    Can you rephrase your question now?
[16:22] <laeg> jrib: that's what i've done
[16:22] <Zorael^2> How do I change keyboard language from a cli?
[16:22] <laeg> i'm on my ubuntu box at home which is the server
[16:22] <jrib> laeg: sure.  You can do that.  Take your private key on your memory stick
[16:22] <Kangarooo> ohletmeinnowjesu: witch command ? reinstalling?
[16:22]  * Dekko also wonders - and I know this may be a noob question, but is there A) A way to make XChat automagically connect to this server and channel on startp (without going through Network List, and B) is there a better IRC client than XChat for Ubuntu/Linux?
[16:22] <guestadmin> "lpadmin -p queue_name -v socket://printer_hostname:9100 \" Anyone know How do I find my "printer_hostname"
[16:22] <ohletmeinnowjesu> Kangarooo: ""And finally: sudo alsa force-reload
[16:22] <laeg> jrib: ok so do i need to undo ssh-copy-id laeg@skyrocket
[16:22] <laeg> jrib: i entered it into term
[16:23] <dejuren> Seveas: ping
[16:23] <aboSamoor> funkyHat, I want to get the icons in computer and the desktop , how can I do that ?
[16:23] <edbian> Kangarooo: Right click the server in the menu and check "auto-connect" right click this channel and click "auto-join"
[16:23] <jrib> laeg: is skyrocket the server?
[16:23] <arand> What is the name of the installer program used on the alternate install CD, ubiquity is the live one, but I can figure out the other...
[16:23] <mobi-sheep> Dekko: Use Network List and fill in the spot.  Nickserv, etc.  And XChat is the decent IRC client but I'm learning irssi (terminal client).
[16:23] <ohletmeinnowjesu> Kangarooo: i think it was the libsmpeg0 package that i reinstalled needed ALSA to be restarted
[16:23] <Kangarooo> aha ohletmeinnowjesu I wanted to say to try that also but wasn't sure and its not last command in that link :)
[16:23] <jrib> laeg: ssh-copy-id just copies your pubkey to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[16:23] <kevix> Dekko: better is a subjective thing. I use 'finch' (a console version of pidgin) to connect to irc.
[16:24] <funkyHat> Dekko: in the network list go to edit network and you can tell it to connect automatically, you can also choose channels you want to automatically join as well
[16:24] <Kangarooo> edbian: but all is ok.. why you said that? :)
[16:24] <ohletmeinnowjesu> Kangarooo: oh lol well it was the last that i got too before i was gonna call it a night and go to bed; WELL THANKS ANYWAYS, I APPRECIATE IT , you guys are awesome
[16:24] <ohletmeinnowjesu> night guys
[16:24] <funkyHat> Dekko: there are other irc clients, I use irssi. x-chat is possibly the best GUI-based (rather than terminal based) irc client
[16:24] <laeg> jrib: ok. so why when i ssh to myself from term or in putty under wine doesn't it say anything about the key? it just asks for and accepts my user pass?
[16:25] <jrib> laeg: pastebin commands that show what you just said
[16:25] <Dekko> FunkyHat: Okay coming from Windows and mIRC with nnScript I don't know much what is available.... :)
[16:25] <laeg> jrib: it looks like this
[16:25] <guestadmin> instructions:"lpadmin -p queue_name -v socket://printer_hostname:9100 \" Is this asking fo the URI?
[16:25] <laeg> login as: laeg
[16:26] <jrib> laeg: *pastebin*
[16:26] <kevix> Dekko: I like pidgin or finch because it can connect to different chats(facebook, icq, irc, msn,...)
[16:26] <laeg> there is nothing to pastebin
[16:26] <laeg> it just asks for a username
[16:26] <jrib> laeg: include your authorized_keys, etc...
[16:26] <jrib> laeg: good luck with your issue
[16:26] <coffeej> My usb mic isn't picking up any sound in jaunty.  where do i start?
[16:26] <laeg> is there anyone here who knows about sshkeys?
[16:26] <funkyHat> laeg: putty will always ask for a username
[16:27] <drone> Could someone give me a little advice on what to do if I keep downloading the same iso file over and over and never have the md5 checksum match ?
[16:27] <funkyHat> laeg: the username isn't included in the key
[16:27] <laeg> funkyHat: but the password it takes and accepts is just my user pass which is different than the keys
[16:27] <laeg> funkyHat: so it means they key isn't setup correctly, correct?
[16:27] <Kangarooo> drone: its different file you are checking for md5sum
[16:27] <guestadmin> drone: could try downloading from a different source
[16:27] <kevix> coffeej: sometimes the issue is that it assigns the device (mic) to the second device, when you are setup for the first device.
[16:27] <laeg> jrib: i appreciate your effort.
[16:27] <funkyHat> laeg: did you append your public key to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys? and did you add your private key to putty properly?
[16:28] <coffeej> kevix: how do i find out if that's the case?
[16:28] <Laibsch> funkyHat: Do you have a file /etc/init.d/vboxdrv?  If so, can you please tell me what package is returned from "dpkg -S /etc/init.d/vboxdrv"?
[16:28] <laeg> funkyHat: i'm going to pastebin all i've done
[16:28] <Dekko> Kevix: Thanks for the suggestion but isn't a real IRC software more feature rich?'
[16:29] <knorrman> nick
[16:29] <knorrman> nick Dekko_2
[16:29] <funkyHat> Laibsch: virtualbox-2.2
[16:29] <drone> I just starting making a lot of coasters the past couple days trying to get some sort of linux to work on my new ideapad y530 (even ubuntu didn't work well), and I was starting to wonder why and sure enough, every time I download an iso no matter which one, they checksum comes out wrong.
[16:29] <knorrman> nick
[16:29] <Zorael^2> Where can I persistently change the keyboard locale from a console? Not just for X, but for console sessions too
[16:29] <kevix> Dekko: my suggestion was for features that I like :) you have differnt feature needs.
[16:29] <guestadmin> Can anyone explain what this mens "lpadmin -p queue_name -v socket://printer_hostname:9100 \" on the commnd line?
[16:29] <edbian> drone: Odd, where are you getting your distros from?  Different sources?
[16:29] <funkyHat> drone: try using a torrent download rather than a regular one. bittorrent has built in error checking
[16:29] <drone> edbian: yes
[16:30] <drone> about half of them are torrents
[16:30] <kevix> coffeej: you can check the last 200 lines of '/var/log/messages to see if anything registers for your usb sound device'
[16:30] <edbian> drone: Torrents from the distro's site?  Or torrents from torrent sites?
[16:30] <drone> distro site
[16:31] <hemanth> need help to convert html to pdf from cli
[16:31] <drone> ubuntu is the only image that installs fine, but the main issue with it is that practically nothing works correctly
[16:31] <Dekko2> exit
[16:31] <edbian> drone: How many things exactly (and what are they) don't work??
[16:31] <ptheabstract> hey, just wondering if it will be possible to make a crossplatform livecd ... i know that you can make a ppc/intel livecd using the leopard install disks..
[16:31] <Dekko> Question: is it hard to upgrade kernel to the latest build for Ubuntu 9.04?
[16:32] <edbian> ptheabstract: You'd have to have a linux kernel compiled for each architecture.
[16:32] <Xanthomryr> Zorael^2, sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[16:32] <kevix> Dekko: I use aptitude and look for the latest 'linux-image'
[16:32] <Dekko> edbian: The latest one is I think 2.6.30-1?
[16:32] <Laibsch> funkyHat: thanks.  I can only assume then that /etc/init.d/virtualbox-ose is the equivalent
[16:33] <oskar-> Dekko:  not very... but i would recommend to stay at the distribution kernel
[16:33] <Dekko> Right now I am on 2.6.28-13 generic i686
[16:33] <drone> well, first of all, I can set and reset the screen resolution and upon rebooting, it will be back to 1024x768 no matter what. Also, touching the screen brightness keys makes the screen go dark and I can't get it back to the original brightness, only 2 out of 4 speakers work (and they are terribly quiet no matter what the mixer settings), Network manager forgets wireless settings upon reboot
[16:33] <oskar-> Dekko:  do you need the newest version because of changes, new drivers etc?
[16:33] <drone> those are the main issues
[16:33] <edbian> Dekko: I don't know I never try and get to newer kernels (lot so f bugs)
[16:33] <Dekko> oskar: okay because I've been trying to upgrade ALSA to 1.0.20 but did NOT work due to too old kernel(?)
[16:33] <oskar-> bugs??
[16:33] <ptheabstract> but then how can i get the right kernel to load at boot?
[16:33] <drone> I've never had a lenovo laptop of any kind have so much trouble with linux before
[16:33] <Zorael^2> Xanthomryr: thanks
[16:34] <Albertus> hello. who speak Polish?
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> !pl | Albertus
[16:34] <Dekko> oskar: Also I am trying all these things to LEARN, because I do feel a desire to move away from Windows - more and more the more I use Ubuntu.
[16:34] <edbian> drone: For the monitor problems it's your driver (I wouldn't hold my breath for the darkness brightness settings) but the resolution problem will almost certainly be fixed by switching drivers.  What kind of card do you have?
[16:35] <Dekko> And now I am using it on a crappy AthlonXP 2400+ with 2 GB RAM, Geforce 6600 graphics and 1x 80 and 1x120 GB harddrive
[16:35] <drone> edbian: its an intel integrated x4500hd
[16:35] <guestadmin> Anyone know how to find my "printer_hostname"?
[16:35] <drone> usually those work perfectly
[16:35] <SiggyF>  /join #wow
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> guestadmin:  you have a networked printer or somthing?
[16:36] <guestadmin> DR_Willis: no, just a regular USB laser printer, the instructions to install driver ask me for it
[16:36] <edbian> drone: Are you able to use compiz?
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> Intel drivers had some quirks with the lastet release of ubuntu and the x drivers/compiz i recall.. i hhad to update my drivers on my netbook
[16:36] <kevix> Dekko: there are 2 kinds of software on distos like ubuntu: mananged and unmanaged. if you keep with the managed(deb) then you life is easy. if you install you own things, it can mess with your system, if you install something in the wrong place or with the wrong version
[16:36] <drone> edbian: yes
[16:36] <guestadmin> Dr_Willis: From readme: lpadmin -p queue_name -v socket://printer_hostname:9100 \
[16:36] <oskar-> guestadmin:  man lp_admin
[16:37] <guestadmin> oskar, ah ok
[16:37] <drone> Dr_Willis: did you just go to the intel site and get the newest ones ?
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> guestadmin:    thats for a networked printer,  the socket: thing would be different for a local printer
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> drone:  no - i used the ubutnu ppa stuff. to upgrade a few things
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> guestadmin:  you may want to try the cups web interface to configure the printer
[16:37] <drone> I see
[16:38] <Jassi> join #ubuntu-de
[16:38] <edbian> drone: Check this out! http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_GMA_X4500HD
[16:38] <coffeej> kevix: I see a line that reads: "usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio", but that seems to be all referencing mic, usb, or the model
[16:38] <guestadmin> It stiDr_Willis: lt asks for a URI which I don't know either
[16:38] <david__> arand you here?
[16:38] <Dekko> kevix: Thank you very much for the suggestion. I know that if you go it with Linux without a safety net you can screw up bad. However I REALLY want to learn to do all these things so I feel like I have control over the system. I want to be able to customize it and do what I want with it. Not just use it :)
[16:38] <arand> david__: yup.
[16:39] <david__> i am back...
[16:39] <guestadmin> DR_Willis: ^ In the interface (tho Im much more comfortable in terminal, I COULD try ;)
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> guestadmin:   try the cups web interface.  but let me guess..you are on a server install? or are you using the normal ubuntu desktop?
[16:39] <david__> so do you think i should install 8.04 than upgrade?
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> guestadmin:  the cup web interface is the best way to configure cups.
[16:39] <drone> I was using Fedora 10 and also opensuse 11.1 on it, but both of them had awful annoyances that I knew I just couldn't live with. The package manager in fedora was pathetically slow for some reason, I took me 3 hours to run some updates whereas ubuntu would only take about 15 min
[16:39] <guestadmin> Dr_Willis: normal ubuntu desktop
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> guestadmin:  there are the gnome cups config tools also..
[16:39] <Laibsch> funkyHat: I have concluded that the jaunty package has many issues.  Rather than fixing them, I will recompile the karmic version and use that.  2.2.x seems to be a major leap in stability.
[16:39] <kevix> coffeej: that is a good sign that something was recognized. I usually unplug it and then plug it in and then check the last 30 lines to see if anything was added new.
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> guestadmin:  my local printer just worked with no messing on my part in ubuntu. HP laserjet 6l :)
[16:40] <guestadmin> DR_Willis: ugh, I hate graphical, but will try if necessary
[16:40] <guestadmin> DR_Willis: nice ;)
[16:40] <coffeej> kevix, will I need to reload 'messages' to see a change?
[16:40] <arand> david__: That is probably the simplest way, but the alternate is always an option.
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> guestadmin:  oh the huge manatee! having to click on a few buttons to get stuff working... :)
[16:40] <bin1010> I am trying to get zend debugger to work with eclipse on ubuntu 9.04, I think I have to make a virtual directory (which I've done), but since www-data can't read my user directories, I guess I need to add www-data to my group, but I can't find it in the user list within the gnome User and Group interface.  Should I change apache to run with my user?  weird making the index.html file chmod 777 did not work either, wonder why?
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> guestadmin:  or to read up on the cups commands more i guess.. and perhaps figuure out what one scans/shows attatched printers..
[16:41] <david__> do i start in guided partitioning?
[16:41] <david__> i just entered it...
[16:41] <kevix> coffeej: you can use 'tail -f /var/log/messages' to 'actively monitor the file' (use cntl-c to quit)
[16:41] <DVA5912> Ubuntu 9.04 isnt in beta stage is it? Because for some reason It seems to be well Slow. I dont know what it is but every couple of minutes when it feels like it it becomes slow and wont respond fast
[16:41] <david__> should i do it manually or guided-resize?
[16:42] <Xanthomryr> guestadmin, my printer work out of the box too via System > Administration > Printing
[16:42] <arand> david__: This is in the alternate installer?
[16:42] <david__> yes
[16:42] <david__> 9.04
[16:42] <Xanthomryr> Printer is a Samsung  ML 1710
[16:42] <kevix> Dekko: that is a good way to learn (by experimenting) just as long as you dont mind reinstalling a few times (dont use the tests with any live/good data)
[16:43] <guestadmin> DR_Willis:OK, Ill check out the other methods
[16:43] <david__> i am trying manual...
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> guestadmin:  im suprised you dident get some dialog popped up when you pliugged in the printer.. it is turned ON and plugged in right?
[16:43] <DVA5912> 2GB ram and a 1.73 ghz processor are enough to run ubuntu 9.04 correct?
[16:43] <Dekko> kevix: In the past I have been weary of Linux, because it hasn't felt very "good" - more like a hobby project thing, but since 9.04 its kicked _ass_.... :D also probably could be that I have been running and using a hackintosh for a while, which has made the transition over to Linux - easier.... and now its just darn fun.
 absolutely enough
[16:44] <guestadmin> Xanthomryr: would I lose any functionality that way, the "booklet" say to install drivers before connecting the USB, like  the windows lexmarks that have a program that runs?'
[16:44] <laeg> funkyHat: it works now, i hadn't regular username and pass auth disabled and i was expecting it to ask for the key instead. Authenticating with public key "imported-openssh-key" - if i edit the key and change that from imported-openssh-key will it affect it?
[16:44] <funkyHat> Laibsch: sounds sensible :)
[16:44] <laeg> funkyHat: just to change the anme
[16:44] <laeg> name
[16:44] <DVA5912> vitovt: would a low end ATI cause things to run slow?
[16:44] <arand> david__: ok, I'm guessing the guided will do an automatic rezise, I think it would grab 12GB on the end of sda2, if that's fine go ahead with it (afaik the installer will confirm the choices)
[16:44] <Zane> http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=214831
[16:45] <kevix> Dekko: hmm. I've use linux since redhat 6.2. Jaunty is over-the-top-kick-ass compared to that :)
[16:45] <Zane> I don't know why....
[16:45] <guestadmin> Dr_Willis: was hesitant, because the booklet said to install driver befor connecting USB, maybe thats just Dell "jibberish"
[16:45] <funkyHat> laeg: should be fine. I don't really use putty but sounds alright.
[16:45] <vitovt> DVA5912: yes. Ati without native drivers works very slow
[16:45] <vitovt> especially in video and games.
[16:45] <Phrogz> I have 9.04 server installed on a machine I don't know the specs of anymore. Is there a way from ubuntu to find out the specs of the RAM sufficient for me to buy more? Or do I need to go to the box and open it up?
[16:45] <kevix> DVA5912: I am using jaunty with 800mhz and 512 MB.
[16:45] <laeg> funkyHat: ty
[16:45] <DVA5912> vitovt: Then i guess that would explain the prblem then :\
[16:45] <Xanthomryr> guestadmin, no i think not but i don't need much functionality because my printer is only a b/w laser
[16:46] <Xanthomryr> guestadmin, just give it a try :-)
[16:46]  * DVA5912 goes to install ati drivers
[16:46] <guestadmin> Xanthomryr:same, b/w laser I guess I coud just go for it, and plug it in, see what happens
[16:46] <ggg> is it possible to install firefox 3.5 ?
 http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide
[16:46] <Xanthomryr> yeah ist is
[16:47] <Xanthomryr> ah firefox 3.5 I mean
[16:47] <Dekko> Kevix: I've tried Mandriva and various Ubuntu versions, but never liked it (because I couldn't see or understand how it worked very well and also it felt frustrating being a noob again, having quite extensive knowledge of Micro$oft stuff.... but now since making the transition from hackintosh to Linux.... it just feels like I am gaining more and more knowledge :) And its fun ..... LOTS of fun. And now I am using it on an old machine.
[16:47] <scunizi> Xanthomryr: guestadmin what kind of B&W laser printer?
[16:47] <funkyHat> !ff35 | ggg
[16:47] <kevix> ggg: I am using 3.5 on jaunty (it is part of the options if you search for it in aptitude)
[16:47] <guestadmin> scunizi: Dell 2330d
[16:47] <Xanthomryr> scunizi, Samsung ML-1710
[16:47] <laeg> funkyHat: i had successfully ssh from my ubuntu server to my ubuntu server and it asked for the ssh key pass phrase and i connected which is great - now when i do it i'm not asked for the pass - have i been added to some trusted list?
[16:48] <oskar-> Dekko:  maybe this helps http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/ (?)
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> guestadmin:  you are reading/thinking in windows terms again
[16:48] <funkyHat> laeg: no, the ssh key agent remembers that you've unlocked the key, so you don't have to unlock it every time (this is client side)
[16:48] <kevix> Dekko: well Mac OS X is built on bsd with is close to linux. so that is a good start.
[16:48] <oskar-> Dekko:  i don't know what it is meant for, i only found it recently
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> guestadmin:  lets just say.. i attatched a canon ip1600 just now.. and it dident even pop up a dialog.. it was allready configured and ready to print to.
[16:49] <coffeej> kevix: it detects it.  output is: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/215561/
[16:49] <Xanthomryr> yeah, I was very surprised how flawless my printer was installed
[16:49] <DVA5912> omg i never realized how much my little gphx card sucks
[16:49] <Dekko> oskar: Thank you for the link :) I want to use only stable kernels no beta or alpha or pre-release.... :)
[16:49] <scunizi> Xanthomryr: you won't have any issues.. cups might have the driver already.. on my 2010 I use samsun's linux driver.... guestadmin yours is more tough..if they don't directly support it check the lexmark site and see if you can see a model that is the same.. dell obviously rebrands somebodies. if you can discover what it is that's 1/2 the battle
[16:49] <kevix> coffeej: cool. will check.
[16:49] <guestadmin> DR_Willis: darn you are correct, old habits, went for it, plugged it in, immediately worked, now THERES 6 hours of wasted time I wont get back reading th manuals
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> guestadmin:  i find this whole windows idea of 'install out stuff BEFOR you even attacth the thing.. illoggical'
[16:49] <DVA5912> Mobile Intel®  915PM  Express Chipset w/ ATI
[16:49] <DVA5912> MOBILITYTM RADEON®  X300 with 64MB DDR video memory
[16:49] <DVA5912> Video type: 128-bit hardware accelerated
[16:49] <Kangarooo> what command put output of command to clipbord?
[16:49] <DVA5912> sucks right?
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> guestadmin:  amazing eh. :)  and people say windows is user friendly!
[16:49] <oskar-> Dekko:  <IP_ADDRESS> is stable ;-)  depends on who you ask ;)
[16:50] <ggg> doing firefox --version "Mozilla Firefox 3.0.11, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2009 mozilla.org" why ? i also did this sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 it installed shiretoko .
[16:50] <laeg> funkyHat: cool. but with putty i do need too, is that okay? i mean would it indicate a problem
[16:50] <laeg> it wants the ssh passphrase on each connect
[16:50] <laeg> ssh key
[16:50] <ggg> ubottu, doing firefox --version "Mozilla Firefox 3.0.11, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2009 mozilla.org" why ? i also did this sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 it installed shiretoko .
[16:50] <Dekko> Kevix: Yes I know its BSD-style so to speak, but it just feels so good to use Linux, lots more work to get it to do things (like mounting internal harddrives getting permission to write to them etc.) but when you succeed it feels good. Also do you know if you can play games on Linux (with a DuoCore 2.4 Ghz, Geforce 9600GT graphics card)?
[16:50]  * Dekko is thinking of kicking Windows XP.
[16:50] <andre_pl> Where are the file-extension associations for bash's tab-completion stored? can I edit them?
[16:51] <funkyHat> laeg: no that's fine. just means that putty doesn't remember passphrases or keep your key unlocked for you
[16:51] <guestadmin> Xanthomryr: Amazing after 6 hoyrs of reading, I just plugged it in, and voila, detected and test page :)
[16:51] <coffeej> kevix: it works "out of the box" if I plug it into my ubuntu laptop...
[16:51] <Xanthomryr> scunizi, I have no problem with my printer :-)
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> guestadmin:  honestly  however... what were you expecting the command line tools to do - without the printer even being plugged in?  :)
[16:51] <arand> david__: otherwise, in advanced/manual partitioning choose edit sda2 (that's the main big one with w7 yes?) and then enter the new size for the win7 partion, leaving enough for the ubuntu partition (more than 7GB is what I'd go for) Then set up the ubu partitions in that space ( / swap (/home if you want))...
[16:51] <guestadmin> scunizi: worked, just plugged it in :)
[16:51] <Xanthomryr> guestadmin,  haha
[16:51] <ggg> ubottu, shiretoko and firefox are different. is it possible to have firefox version 3.5 in the older firefox ?
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> guestadmin:  windows does it that way because their isntaller - installs the drivers for the thing to find  WHEN it gets plugged in
[16:51] <scunizi> Xanthomryr: you got lucky!  but I'm glad it works..
[16:51] <kevix> Dekko: there is a commercial version of WINE that supports many windows games
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> :)
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> Cups printing in ubuntu = A++ :)
[16:52] <scunizi> guestadmin: they're getting better and better at detection..
[16:52] <skas_> eth1 is showing up at inet6, how do i change this to inet4
[16:52] <ggg> kevix, doing firefox --version "Mozilla Firefox 3.0.11, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2009 mozilla.org" why ? i also did this sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 it installed shiretoko .
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> This canon printer is such a pain to get going in windows..
[16:52] <ggg> kevix, shiretoko and firefox are different. is it possible to have firefox version 3.5 in the older firefox ?
[16:52] <kevix> ggg: I just use 'firefox-3.5' to start it on the command line
[16:52] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: I get the impression that you and I don't seem to sleep much
[16:52] <rocky> ohai youseenothing
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> !ff35 | ggg
[16:53] <guestadmin> Dr_Willis: Dell should be ashamed, using windows tactics on a specific  "Ubuntu Driver CD", they need some counseling on linux
[16:53] <LeoPinguim> guys, how can I see my Video Card Driver?
[16:53] <laeg> funkyHat: ty. changing the name of the putty key seemed to break it
[16:53] <rocky> ohbai
[16:53] <Dr_Willis> guestadmin:  write them a silly letter.. makes ya wonder whats on their 'driver' cd anyway...
[16:53] <kevix> ggg: shiretoko is the 'code name' for firefox 3.5
[16:53] <ggg> kevix, can you please check the version of firefox ? firefox --version
[16:53] <david__> yo...i got 9.04 to load with out the alternative...
[16:53] <david__> yeah....
[16:53] <Dr_Willis> I have FF 3.5 (shrinto) and 3.0.11 both installed...
[16:53] <david__> i jusdt did fd=false...and it worked
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> the default firfox binary runs 3.0.11
[16:54] <rogst> Hi I got a Intel GM45 graphicscard in my laptop and when I connect an external monitor with my docking station I cant choose any higher resolution then 1280x1024 but the minitor supports 1600x1200, I use ubuntu 9.04, anyone got any ideas why ?
[16:54] <guestadmin> Dr_Willis: Thanks, guess I can now print something quick and just enjoy my day
[16:54] <ggg> kevix, so the older firefox is not update to firefox 3.5 ?
[16:54] <kevix> ggg: on jaunty, 'firefox' is 3.0 but 'firefox-3.5' is Mozilla Firefox-3.5 3.5, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2009 mozilla.org
[16:54] <arand> david__: nice, so then you'll get through the live installer then?
[16:54] <kevdog> wazzz up
[16:54] <minimec> ggg: shiretoko and firefox install in parallel. You could apt-get remove firefox, and then set a link called firefox in /usr/bin that links to /usr/lib/firefox-3.5/firefox.sh
[16:54] <guestadmin> Dr_Willis: I wonder too now
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> ggg:  3.5 does not replace the default 3.0.11
[16:54] <tonii> rogst: does the GM45 support 1600x1200 resolution?
[16:54] <david__> yeap...
[16:54] <Dekko> how can I install Firefox 3.5 INSTEAD of 3.0.11? and not as Shiretoko?? :D
[16:54] <david__> and it so much easier that way
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> firefox 3.5 is still a work in progress  it seems in some ways
[16:55] <LeoPinguim> guys, how can I see my Video Card Driver?
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> Dekko:  rename the icon.. there ya go.. you most likely domnt want to remove 3.0.11
[16:55] <iamslango> after waking up from hibernating... bluetooth is sort of... a PITA
[16:55] <david__> i just select the amount of space for the new partition...
[16:55] <iamslango> does anyone have any thoughts on that?
[16:55] <rogst> tonii: Hmm i dont know I think it should since it kinda new.. on my laptop screen I use 1440x900
[16:55] <arand> Dekko: Don't think you can do it properly without some hacking...
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> I dont see why everyone is going all berzerk and rabbid to get 3.5 this INSTANT
[16:55] <ggg> kevix, how can i remove the older firefox 3.0.11 ?
[16:55] <minimec> Dekko: Same thing. shiretoko and firefox install in parallel. You could apt-get remove firefox, and then set a link called firefox in /usr/bin that links to /usr/lib/firefox-3.5/firefox.sh
[16:55] <kevdog> LeoPinguim: lshw
[16:56] <Dekko> minimec: Why is it called Shiretoko? ;-)
[16:56] <Dr_Willis> ggg:  i advice to NOT remove the old firefox
[16:56] <Dr_Willis> Dekko:  that was covered a few moments ago.. thats the codename for it.
[16:56] <minimec> Dekko: Internal developper codename for firefox 3.5
[16:56] <kevix> ggg: i dont know the best way. there are 2 setting that I need to check.
[16:56] <ggg> Dr_Willis, why ?
[16:56] <Dr_Willis> ggg:  3.5 still has issues.
[16:56] <kevdog> How hard is it to compile 3.5 from source?
[16:56] <kevdog> or is this not advised?
[16:57] <DVA5912> in 9.04 how do i change what workgroup im on? I cant see my other windows client
[16:57] <Dr_Willis> kevdog:  go for it.. :) if you want.. good luck.
[16:57] <arand> Dr_Willis: I can see the point though, apart from extension confilcts it's waay neat. The little I tried it...
[16:57] <CyberNeT> hey is this the ubuntu help channel?
[16:57] <Dr_Willis> DVA5912:  thats defined in the /etc/samba/smb.conf near the top  - i recall
[16:57] <benste> where can I find my touchscreen attached through serial if there is no /dev/ttyS0 ?
[16:57] <Dr_Willis> arand:  theres also supposed to be some 64bit issues with 3.5 i hear.
[16:57] <kevdog> Dr_Willis:  I tried a long time ago and I couldn't do it.  It was difficult b/c there were no instructions.  I would if I could find all the libs and such
[16:57] <Dekko> Kevix: Commercial WINE? which one are you referring to? Cedega?
[16:58] <benste> !samba | benste
[16:58] <alejandro> k
[16:58] <kevdog> !samba
[16:58] <ggg> kevix, but in fedora 11 i think there is nothing like shiretoko ,there it is firefox 3.5 version with the older icon . why  is it shiretoko in ubuntu 9.04 ?
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> kevdog:  now ya know why the package manager system is so handy.
[16:58] <tonii> rogst: hm. Maybe the vga-out on your laptop or dockingstation don't support higher resolution then 1280x1024.
[16:58] <dAnon> how do I install gnome themes
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> ggg:  because the devs decided to keep the shrinto name to  make it easier to tell the 2 apart
[16:58] <DVA5912> Dr_Willis: ok its changed. Do i have to restart now?
[16:59] <kevdog> Dr_Willis: I like compiling from source, but even the mozilla developer pages were somewhat sketchy
[16:59] <JoeM> dr_willis no go on disabling xinerama... just won't work without it
[16:59] <kevix> Dekko: yeah. I think its calld Cedega
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> dAnon:  open the appearance config tool.. and drag/drop the theme downloads to it. for the most part.
[16:59] <minimec> kevdog: on the download page of mozilla 'getmozilla', they provide some static builds, that you don't even need to install. You can launch it within your /home directory. I see no reason to build a version, unless you wanna be a gentoo kid ;)
[16:59] <kevdog> or an arch kid?
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> DVA5912:  restart the samba service.. sudo samba restart  (should do it)
[16:59] <CyberNeT> basically im booting the latest ubuntu 9.04 image and i get the error: Error reading boot cd. Anyone help with that one?
[16:59] <kevix> ggg: it is just a decison by the ubuntu firefox folks. its about 'stable support' and released version of ubuntu
[17:00] <DVA5912> Dr_Willis: clint@clint-laptop:~$ sudo samba restart
[17:00] <DVA5912> sudo: samba: command not found
[17:00] <ggg> Dr_Willis,in windows there is nothing like shiretoko as well , it is firefox 3.5 with the older icon . am i correct ?
[17:00] <moymoy> i thought arch was a binary distro?
[17:00] <LeoPinguim> kevdog: thx man, but how can I see the driver controller installed?
[17:00] <minimec> kevdog: ... or an arch kid.
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> DVA5912:  sudo service samba restart
[17:00] <kevdog> CyberNeT:  did you verify the md5 prior to burning the disc?
[17:00] <DVA5912> clint@clint-laptop:~$ sudo samba restart
[17:00] <DVA5912> sudo: samba: command not found
[17:00] <CyberNeT> no but ive downloaded it twice
[17:00] <DVA5912> oops hold on
[17:00] <kevix> ggg: the next version (karmic) will install firefox 3.5 as 'firefox'
[17:00] <kevdog> LeoPingium: what vid card do you have
[17:00] <DVA5912> clint@clint-laptop:~$ sudo service samba restart
[17:00] <DVA5912> $samba: unrecognized service
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> willis@cow:~$ sudo service samba  restart
[17:00] <iamslango> archlinux does rock
[17:01] <LeoPinguim> kevdog: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AS [Radeon 9550] // 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AS [Radeon 9550] (Secondary)
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> you dont have the full samba installed then.. so thers no samba service. :)
[17:01] <iamslango> ubuntu is cool also... for different reasons
[17:01] <laeg> if it's a good idea to change your ssh server from port 22 for security reasons, what's a good port?
[17:01] <ggg> Dr_Willis, kevix will the shiretoko and firefox 3.0.11 be merged later ? is there any possibility to be merged in future ?
[17:01] <DVA5912> Dr_Willis: same thing
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> laeg:  i doubt if it makes it that much secure
[17:01] <kevdog> laeg:  anyport you want -- but skip many common ports to cut down on traffic
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> DVA5912:  you dont have samba service installed... see if the change has happened perhaps?
[17:01] <iamslango> laeg, if there was one tried and true port to switch to, it would defeat the purpose
[17:02] <kevdog> LeoPinguim: lshw -C video doesn't work?
[17:02] <nsahoo> hi
[17:02] <puchacz> hello, where can I manage apache, postgres and other services in 9.04? there used to be a traffic light icon in system settings before.
[17:02] <Dr_Willis> laeg:  thats sort of like locking the Screen door.. and then the Front door to the house. :)
[17:02] <Trijntje> When I run firestarter it knows the total SENT and RECEIVED network traffic for each interface since boot. I want that information in a text only environment. Where can I get that?
[17:02] <kevix> ggg: shiretoko is firefox version 3.5. the current  'firefox' on jaunty is version 3.0.
[17:02] <iamslango> laeg, Dr_Willis is probably right though
[17:02] <rogst> tonii: I guess I should have tried the vga-out in windows before I installed Ubuntu :D to bad windows dont have any liveCD so I can try it out if the gfx card support higher resolutions
[17:02] <benste> !firefox > benste
[17:02] <nikos> help! i've lost all of my data on my /home partition (ext4)
[17:03] <Evert> Hi, how can i get Adobe Flash running on Ubuntu 9.04?
[17:03] <nikos> what can i do?
[17:03] <nsahoo> hi, can i transfer my user customization from office computer to home laptop running ubuntu?
[17:03] <JoeM> could someone remind me what the work around in 8.10 was for the startup sessions not working?  I have just a couple things I'd like to have start up when I login (position doesn't matter)
[17:03] <oskar-> nikos:  photorec (part of package testdisk)
[17:03] <kevix> nikos: how did it happen?
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  copy all the settings from your home dir to a flash drive.. take it home.. copy them to your users home. :)
[17:03] <nikos> first i've had some crashes
[17:03] <kevdog> since when was it sudo service <name> start?
[17:03] <ggg> kevix, yes  i mean as the shiretoko and the older firefox 3.0 have different icons ,blue and red , is there any possiblity to be eliminated one in future ?
[17:03] <nikos> and some kernel panics
[17:03] <tonii> rogst: heh. the gfx most likely support higher resolution. try connecting the monitor directly to the vga-out on the laptop and see if it changes anything. :)
[17:04] <nsahoo> Dr_Willis: you mean the entire .* directory in the home directory?
[17:04] <kevix> nikos: as oskar- says, photorec will try to find lost image files on a erased partition.
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> kevdog:  the service commabnd has been in existance for a long time.. :)
[17:04] <kevdog> I always thought it was sudo /etc/init.d samba restart?
[17:04] <rgnr> hey
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  well most of them.. depends on the programs/settings
[17:04] <oskar-> kevix:  not only image files, many types more
[17:04] <rgnr> i cannot create darabase in myphpadmin
[17:04] <kevdog> Dr_Willis -> I must be living in the stone age!
[17:04] <rgnr> says no privileges
[17:04] <Evert> Does Flash even work on Linux?
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> kevdog:   service command has been here.. people just never notice it. :P
[17:04] <minimec> Dr_Willis: By the way: Do you know why there is no new chapter from 'The Book of Mozilla' in about:mozilla?
[17:04] <kevix> oskar-: ok. thanks, I forgot all the suported types.
[17:04] <rgnr> !myphpadmin
[17:04] <Dr_Willis>  service - run a System V init script
[17:04] <nsahoo> Dr_Willis: well if I have to go through each of the .* files and select, it'll be a lot easier to redo it on the laptop
[17:04] <nikos> i cant boot ubuntu.. is there a way with the lice cd?
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  yep.. proberly right
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  and safer also
[17:05] <scunizi> !phpadmin > rgnr
[17:05] <nsahoo> Dr_Willis: hoping for a shortcut to copy UI customization
[17:05] <puchacz> basically, how do I edit runlevels in GUI in 9.04? there used to be traffic lights icon for it, but it is gone.
[17:05] <nikos> or with the root console (it only boots untill there)\
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  if you mean your .gnome theme settings.. those are in .gnome* i recall
[17:05] <laeg> Dr_Willis, kevdog, iamslango: ok ty. i have an ssh key setup anyway and i'm about to disable regular username and pass login
[17:05] <kevdog> Why do people tout bsd init style scripts to be better -- such as used in bsd or arch?
[17:05] <mikey_likesit> hey, i'm just about to go crazy with this, i've just switched from XP to ubuntu and trying to find my 2 networked harddrives so I can mount them. anybody know how I can find their names / addresses?
[17:05] <kevix> ggg: the different icons are a choice the ubuntu folks made. to make it good for ever jaunty user, they are seperate. when you upgrade to karmic, firefox will be version 3.5.
[17:05] <unixcruiser> it's so hard to help someone?
[17:06] <kevdog> laeg:  Use both for testing in case something goes wrong?
[17:06] <unixcruiser> don't you agree?
[17:06] <kevix> Evert: yes. I run version 10.
[17:06] <rogst> tonii: I just did connect it directly this time to my monitor at home which is a wide screen and now I at least could choose 1440x900 which is the same as I use on the laptop, but the monitor support more and I still didn't got pass 1280 for non wide screen resolutions
[17:06] <benste> where can I find my devices attached on serial port?
[17:06] <ggg> kevix, so in karmic there is nothing like shiretoko with blue icon ?
[17:06] <benste> I!firefox-3.5 | ggg
[17:06]  * Dr_Willis finds peole are worrying way way way too much about Firefox 3.5
[17:07]  * scunizi agrees.. it's only a beta afterall
[17:07] <kevdog> Dr_Wills:  Shoot me, but I find the 3.5 on my Winblows box is actually quite good!
[17:07] <rogst> tonii: when I search on dr. google I read something about the Intel driver for linux not yet supporting my intel 4500mhd card fully yet :(
[17:07] <Dr_Willis> ggg:  i hear it will be a Hot Pink and lilac icon with the icon name "IE"
[17:07] <mikey_likesit> can anybody help with with a noob networking question?
[17:07] <coffeej> kevix: anything abnormal?
[17:07] <Dr_Willis> kevdog:  i dont have windows to test it with :)
[17:08] <kevdog> Dr.Willis: You're missing out :p
[17:08] <benste> mikey_likesit: depends on what it is about :-)
[17:08] <tonii> rogst: ahh, that could be it. to bad though :|
[17:08] <oskar-> mikey_likesit:  just ask it...
[17:08] <erikk71> Im surprised ubuntu can be installed onto a pc then take hard drive put it into different machine an it works fine
[17:08] <kevix> ggg: shiretoko is not some strange program, it is simply a way to refer to a REAL beta version of firefox. in karmic, they will use the official version of 3.5 and it will be ´firefox'
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> erikk71:  its worked fine like that for ages. :)
[17:08] <mikey_likesit> benste: I  don't know the names of my networked harddrives... do you know how I can search?
[17:08] <laeg> kevdog: i've already tested, i'm able to ssh to myself in term with the key, and i've open putty in WINE and can do the same. afaik all i need do is bring id_rsa.ppk with me to work tomorrow
[17:09] <mikey_likesit> i've tried using smb4k but no luck...
[17:09] <Evert> kevix: Should i install Flash by just visiting get.adobe.com/flashplayer and install the .deb package? I did that and it doesn't work..
[17:09] <scunizi> erikk71: did you miss the "Please call Ubuntu to register" messsage? :)
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> mikey_likesit:  they are on  a windows machine being shared?
[17:09] <Jeruvy> Dr_Willis: two of the 'hot' features of 3.5 is html5 support and 'private browsing mode'.
[17:09] <kevdog> One thing I don't like about 3.5 is that you miss the circle spinning in the upper right corner to tell you if the browser is "thinking"
[17:09] <benste> mikey_likesit: first of all it would be nice if you'd describe your problem :-)
[17:09] <tonii> rogst: anywho... hope you can find a solution for it. I got to go :)
[17:09] <erikk71> ya
[17:09] <rogst> tonii: Ok, thanks for the help
[17:09] <kevix> Evert: you have to restart your browser after you install flash
[17:09] <mikey_likesit> ok, have 2 NTFS disks connected to a router (one is a landisk, the other is chained thru it), so no windows connection
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> mikey_likesit:  you could try the 'findsmb' command from the terminal. if you have it  installed...
[17:09] <nikos> where can i find photorec and is there a way to use it with a live ubuntu cd?
[17:10] <kevix> coffeej: does 'asoundconf list' show anything interesting?
[17:10] <kevdog> laeg:  Ok bring the key -- make sure you can do it from work -- then go home and deactivate the password -- something always messes up in my opinion
[17:10] <erikk71> why should i register
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> mikey_likesit:   chained throguh it? these are usb external hard drives hooked to a router?
[17:10] <mikey_likesit> Dr_willis, ok, will try that. I've tried smb4k but it didn't do me any good.
[17:10] <laeg> kevdog :)
[17:10] <mikey_likesit> 1 usb external drive connected to a landisk
[17:10] <mikey_likesit> the landisk is connected to the router
[17:11] <scunizi> erikk71: there isn't a registration process like windows.. you can register on freenode (here) so you can pm when needed..
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> mikey_likesit:  some of those router-fileserver thigns.. are.. flakey.   so you are saying teh hard drive itself has a 'network connection/server' built in?
[17:11] <kevdog> laeg:  I prefer cygwin to the putty version of ssh -- unless you are running a strictly portable app on the client machine!
[17:11] <coffeej> kevix: Riptide and default both show up
[17:11] <kevix> nikos: you probably can install 'photorec' from the live cd session. but you need to have another partition to SAVE the recovered files.
[17:11] <mikey_likesit> that's right, worked just fine with windows...
[17:11] <\\`oot> Hey, Dr_Willis .... is there a work-around for the "giving up waiting on root" error message?  If I "exit" out of the ram shell it puts me in, Ubuntu boots up just fine!
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> mikey_likesit:  are they 'shares' in windoiws" did you have to install exttra software? My NDAS disk - is a pain to get going.  i just use it as a usb disk now.
[17:12] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: sounds like mikey_likesit has a nas
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> \\`oot:  no idea. check the forums perhaps.
[17:12] <benste> how can I get input from Serial devices?
[17:12] <kevdog> æ/☼
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> scunizi:  yep. my NDAS using ntfs - i never got linux to see  right.. ext3 worked
[17:12] <mikey_likesit> Dr_willis: I just tried findsmb but came up empty. just got ip address, netbios name, workgroup headers
[17:12] <mikey_likesit> no data in the columns though
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> mikey_likesit:  sounds like its not being shared va samba then
[17:13] <laeg> kevdog: it's mainly just for tunneling http and im traffic, but i only got that started yesterday so who knows what more i can do with it
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> network disks dont have to use samba.  my Ndas uses its own driver/modules
[17:13] <\\`oot> Dr_Willis: Thanks... this makes no sense... it's a SINGLE disk... if it finds boot sector WHY would it fail to find root on first try!?
[17:13] <laeg> kevdog: i won't need to connect to my ubuntu box by username and pass first to preapprove the work pc right? i mean if i have the id_rsa.ppk loaded in putty it should just connect, right?
[17:14] <kevdog> laeg:  Tunneling is a great exercise.  http traffic is good.  https doesnt need tunneling.  T
[17:14] <DVA5912> Anyway that i can add more locations to the weather thing. The closest one it has (richmod va) is 50 miles away. And there is no way it will give accurate results
[17:14] <scunizi> DVA5912: you in williamburg?
[17:14] <kevdog> laeg: That's right however you will need your username -- your key can be thought of as your password!
[17:14] <laeg> kevdog: kevdog only really exeprience i have with https is my bank's website and using a webmin tunnel which i've now uninstalled
[17:14] <mikey_likesit> Dr_Willis: i tried pinging the whole 192.168 IP range, but no luck there either....
[17:14] <DVA5912> scunizi: Fredericks
[17:15] <laeg> kevdog: yup have my username, have my key, and have the passphrase i set upon it
[17:15] <scunizi> DVA5912:ah
[17:15] <kevdog> laeg:  You've done the putty key to openssh key conversion?
[17:15] <laeg> yup
[17:15] <laeg> sure i was able to connect to myself with putty loaded in wine
[17:15] <laeg> it works
[17:15] <os11> hi how to convert pdf file to jpg?
[17:16] <kevdog> laeg:  You should be good.  The only problem is if your work or wherever doesnt allow out going connections to port 22 or whatever port you are running your openssh server on!
[17:16] <oskar-> os11:  gimp can do it easily, but also "convert" from imagemagick
[17:16] <scunizi> os11: sudo apt-get install imagemagick .... convert <in-file.pdf> <out-file.jpg>  ..
[17:16] <laeg> kevdog: i was able to connect yesterday for the first time as normal with username and pass :)
[17:16] <laeg> it's great, no more blocked websites, im access, no record of browsing history
[17:16] <kevdog> os11: I prefer imagemagick however its command line based -- but much quicker
[17:16] <kevix> benste: there is a program called 'minicom' in linux. google about using it.
[17:16] <DVA5912> scunizi: Do you know how to add them?
[17:17] <scunizi> DVA5912: which weather appelate is it?  the one on the clock?
[17:17] <kevdog> laeg:  You should be good to go -- however a few things -- run ssh on a different port like 222 if possible.  You may want to make use of iptables rate-limit command to cut down on the number of false log in attempts, and if you want to get real fancy -- use a port knocker!
[17:17] <DVA5912> scunizi: yes.
[17:18] <ggg> is it possible to have the option "show from the las tabs" in Epiphany Web browser ?
[17:19] <kevdog> laeg: others prefer the use of denyhosts or actual modifications of the sshd_conf script itself to specify exact users who can log it.  If you are not explicily listed then you can't log in
[17:19] <nikos> why can't i use fsck for my corrupted ext4 /home partition?
[17:19] <scunizi> DVA5912: instead right mouse click the top bar in an open area and choose "add to panel" .. you'll get a list.. pic the weather one.. it should have more cities associated with it. Also if setup right will display the latest weather map of your area.
[17:19] <DVA5912> My network admin is going to kill me i just started a transfer of 3.5 GB to my pc from the external HD
[17:19] <artur__> witam was,jest tu może ktos z poland? :)
[17:19] <nikos> i haven't any other partition to save my recovered files//
[17:20] <drone> I'm getting repeated hash sum mismatch errors when trying to install anything via apt-get. Anyone else having this issue or did I break something?
[17:20] <JediMaster> I've got an ubuntu server that acts as a router, with internal network on eth0, and 2 adsl routers on different networks on eth1 and eth2. eth2 is the default route, with a -A POSTROUTING -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -o eth2 -j MASQUERADE rule for the interal network to NAT via eth2. How do I get one IP (<IP_ADDRESS>) to be routed/NATed through eth1 instead?
[17:20] <DVA5912> scunizi: Well, still the only thing it has is the Fredericksburg in Texas
[17:20] <DVA5912> Thats a LONG way away
[17:21] <laeg> kevdog: the port knockings something i've already on my list. you mean explicitly listed by username?
[17:21] <kevdog> JediMaster: your knowledge of iptables forwarding capabilities are far greater than mine  Sorry I cant help :(
[17:22] <kevdog> laeg:  Yes, or by group
[17:22] <JediMaster> kevdog: heh, thanks anyhow
[17:22] <scunizi> DVA5912: I see Fredericksburg in VA .. but that's not Fredericks unless you ment the former
[17:23] <kevdog> laeg:  Port knocking is great -- but some consider it heresy -- fwknop is the port knocking utility you want to try however -- its the most advanced and currently is in very active development
[17:23] <JediMaster> I tried -A POSTROUTING -s <IP_ADDRESS>/32 -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE before the other iptables masquerade line, but I presume that because it's post routing, that the default route still forces it down eth2?
[17:23] <kevdog> laeg: www.cipherdyne.org
[17:23] <DVA5912> Hey linux fixed that humming in the head phones!!!! that was a major problem with these laptops and linux fixed it. (Dell D610)
[17:23] <creature> Hello. The comments in my xorg.conf say that HAL deals with selecting the keyboard layout. Where can I edit the keyboard layout it's chosen?
[17:23] <DVA5912> scunizi: I dont see. Il keep looking
[17:24] <Sava> Hi
[17:24] <pireTTo> ciao
[17:24] <ggg> is there any other tool to compress file except gzip,bzip2 ?
[17:24] <DVA5912> scunizi: well there is a stafford. Im close enough to that
[17:24] <kevdog> ggg: 7zip
[17:24] <wnstn> when I go to log out a window pops up saying an unknown program is still running. How can I figure out what program this is? See screenshot here: http://imgur.com/b44cg.png
[17:24] <scunizi> DVA5912: k
[17:24] <coleys> DVA5912: Woo ==)
[17:24] <kevdog> ggg: What format do you want?
[17:25] <Sava> What's people?
[17:25] <lavida> can someone help me to write startup script for changing color profile with xcalib
[17:25] <ggg> kevdog, got nothing with man 7zip
[17:25] <lavida> i already wrote something but it doesnt work ;(
[17:25] <coleys> wnstn: type: top in terminal
[17:25]  * DVA5912 wonders what coleys is going nuts about
[17:25] <unixcruiser> ggg on windows?
[17:25] <coleys> wnstn: Look at running proccess's.
[17:25] <wnstn> coleys tried that but nothing strange is running
[17:25] <ggg> unixcruiser, ubuntu 9.04
[17:25] <unixcruiser> you can use zip file...
[17:25] <unixcruiser> that I know
[17:26] <Ctrl-Alt-Del> what is the best driver for intel gma 950?
[17:26] <PeskyJ> you know how alt+F1 opens the applications menu, well how do you open the "user" menu (with the shutdown options in it) with the keyboard?
[17:27] <lavida> can someone help me to write startup script for changing color profile with xcalib?
[17:27] <unixcruiser> ggg use archive manager
[17:27] <JoeM> ok, this old Logitech Quickcam Pro 5000 isn't working out so well... any suggestions on a replacement (Logitech is easy for me to find here), I also need it to be able to be shared via Virtualbox
[17:27] <coffeej> kevix: any more ideas?
[17:27] <kevdog> ggg: the linux command line app is p7zip
[17:27] <Zencyde> The Quickcam Pro did not work for me, either.
[17:28] <coleys> PeskyJ: Control Alt Delete?
[17:28] <oskar-> JediMaster:  search for policy routing (http://linux-ip.net/html/routing-selection.html)
[17:28] <kevix> coffeej: I use kde(kubutu), it has a 'system setting' gui. and that has something for multimedia/sound settings?
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> webcams seem to either work with no problems - or are totally unsupported.. for me. :)
[17:28] <wnstn> coleys: I have tried opening top and killing anything using cpu (except for xorg) no luck. Then I treid opening lsof but I can't figure out which process it is. Any ideas?
[17:28] <ggg> man p7zip got nothing
[17:28] <ggg> kevdog, man p7zip got nothing
[17:28] <coleys> wnstn: Man im not really sure, i have never seen this issue before. =o
[17:28] <moymoy> anyone else's videos choppy/rough-edged with compiz enabled?
[17:28] <coleys> wnstn: Have you tried a google search?
[17:28] <Zencyde> Actually, I have this one webcam that only pulls the information from two color channels.
[17:28] <unixcruiser> ggg install p7zip
[17:29] <thekiddd> I need some help
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> moymoy:  you are refering to videos in totem/gmplayer/vlc? or other videos?
[17:29] <PeskyJ> coleys: um, that doesn't seem to do it
[17:29] <wnstn> coleys: yeah but I haven't had much luck
[17:29] <kuppy> hey i had a problem with an xp boot cd after installing linux and wiping it could it be that ubuntu did something to the drive to make it unrecognizable to xp
[17:29] <thekiddd> I have recently installed Kiwi Linux (part of Ubuntu). It asked me for a username and password when I've installed, i've entered 'roster' and my password
[17:29] <kevdog> ggg: You need to install the program
[17:29] <unixcruiser> ggg// 'sudo apt-get install p7zip'
[17:29] <thekiddd> What is the root password??!
[17:29] <coleys> wnstn: Always had the problem, or... Just recently started getting it?
[17:29] <kevix> thekiddd: emotional, financial, ..... please be more specific ;)
[17:29] <thekiddd> It never asked me for the root password
[17:29] <moymoy> Dr_Willis: in all the players, though i mostly use mplayer, it isn't choppy after killing compiz.real though
[17:29] <coleys> !root
[17:29] <scunizi> thekiddd: there isn't one
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> kuppy:  windows will ignore linxu parittions.. you may need to delete the linux partitions some how and leave that part of the drive unallocated.
[17:29] <thekiddd> then how do I root?
[17:30] <unixcruiser> thekiddd// you don't need to use root password
[17:30] <kuppy> how do i do that
[17:30] <thekiddd> :|
[17:30] <bazhang> thekiddd, kiwi linux? ubuntu-based?
[17:30] <coleys> thekiddd: (Although you can change the root password, with sudo passwd root) But use sudo =)
[17:30] <scunizi> thekiddd: use sudo before a command that needs root
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> moymoy:   with compiz it depends on teh video card/drivers it seems. :)
[17:30] <kuppy> can i format it to nfts or ntfs
[17:30] <unixcruiser> use sudo before type your command
[17:30] <unixcruiser> like this
[17:30] <kevix> thekiddd: on default ubuntu systems, the password for 'sudo' is your password. the 'root' password should never be needed.
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> moymoy:  i have no issues on my nvidia 8800 and compiz+videos.
[17:30] <unixcruiser> 'sudo yourcommand'
[17:30] <ggg> unixcruiser, kevdog in archiver manager i got the option to compress with .7z but why can't i get nothing with man p7zip ?
[17:30] <minimec> thekiddd: you can do sudo -i That grants you sudo rights for the whole terminal window you are in.
[17:30] <moymoy> Dr_Willis: hmm =\ darn.. compiz, can't live with it, can't live WITHOUT it.. =[
[17:31] <unixcruiser> ggg 'p7zip --help'
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> 'man p7zip' --> gives me a rather minimal man page.
[17:31] <moymoy> Dr_Willis: i have a pretty DECENT video card.. nvidia 6 series
[17:31] <thekiddd> sudo -i worked perfectly
[17:31] <thekiddd> thanks everyone
[17:31] <thekiddd> !
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> moymoy:  check the ccsm config. thers some settings/video tweaks there perhaps
[17:32] <unixcruiser> moymoy// I think you need to install propriety driver
[17:32] <moymoy> Dr_Willis: i shall! :)
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> p7zip has 2  options.. -d to decompress :) and -h for help. heh...
[17:32] <moymoy> unixcruiser: i have proprietary drivers installed.. otherwise i wouldn't have compiz enabled
[17:32] <ggg> unixcruiser, kevdog installed p7zip ,now man p7zip and p7zip --help work
[17:33] <kevdog> ggg:  Good work :)
[17:33] <atharh> Hey everyone. I am trying to delete entries from arp cache but they just won't go away. I am doing this as root: arp -d <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:33] <unixcruiser> enter the appearance configuration
[17:33] <scunizi> moymoy: so you have a 6 series nvidia and the drivers activated, ccsm is installed .. what isn't working? I must have missed it.
[17:33] <ggg> kevdog, unixcruiser but man 7zip and 7zip --help don't work
[17:33] <ggg> kevdog, unixcruiser i think there is nothing like 7zip ,
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> there is no 7zip command
[17:34] <kevdog> p7zip is what it is called in linux -- see the 7zip web page!!!
[17:34] <nsadmin> atharh: is there a machine with that IP on your net?
[17:34] <laeg> kevdog: ty, i'll have a look]#
[17:34] <oskar-> ggg:  "7z"?
[17:34] <ggg> Dr_Willis, but why can't i get anything with man 7zip ?
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> z
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> 7z   7za  7zr
[17:34] <scunizi> ggg: how bout man p7zip
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> ggg:  because theres no command called '7zip' thus no man page for it....
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> hit 7<tab> and see wht commands exist
[17:35] <kevdog> laeg:  Ive also written a tutorial on how to set it up on the linux server -- its slightly out of date however it will get you up in running  Its missing a section for the new feature -- however the new featrues are rarely used IMO
[17:35] <lavida> can someone help me to write startup script for changing color profile with xcalib
[17:36] <atharh> nsadmin: yes, the machine is there. My other machine has got the wrong MAC address against that IP so things are not working.
[17:36] <ggg> kevdog unixcruiser they are 7z , 7zr ,7za
[17:36] <kevdog> Dr_Willis -- I can confirm those command
[17:36]  * Dr_Willis has now totally frogotten ggg 's original question...
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> what was the problem again?
[17:36] <kevdog> ggg: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/59888  -- this gives you some background
[17:36] <ggg> Dr_Willis, what question ?
[17:37] <mc_> Ok I just install wubi on a laptop for a friend, I'm a full time linux user on all my boxes, but I don't see how to pass files from Ubuntu into windows or visaversa?
[17:37] <nsadmin> he forgot it too!
[17:37] <atharh> nsadmin: So I can ping <IP_ADDRESS> from <IP_ADDRESS>, but not the other way around. Similarly, I can ping <IP_ADDRESS> from any other machine
[17:37] <ggg> Dr_Willis, is it possible to have the option "open from the last tab" in Epiphany Web browser ?
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> mc_:  wubi makes it a pain to get files to/from the windows drive that wubi is installed on.
[17:37] <scunizi> mc_: I think on wubi, ubuntu is totally isolated.. as an alternative use virtualbox on the win machine and install ubuntu there.
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> ggg:  i never use that brower.. so no idea.
[17:38] <oskar-> atharh:  then a filter rule eats the packets
[17:38] <Zencyde> atharh: Can you ping anything else from *.100?
[17:38] <ggg> Dr_Willis, ok
[17:38] <atharh> oskar: nopes, the mac address mapping is wrong.
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> mc_:  i would also reccomdne using virtualbox instead of Wubi. I would take wubi out in the back yard and burry it in a deep deep hole.
[17:38] <YBH___3> ?
[17:38] <atharh> Zencyde: yes, i can ping other machines too
[17:38] <ggg> kevdog, thanks
[17:38] <Zencyde> D: That's weird.
[17:38] <mc_> Dr_Willis, That's a shame, it's such a painless way for newbies to install Linux.
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> mc_:  its not painess to actually USE
[17:39] <kevdog> mc_? What?
[17:39] <mc_> Dr_Willis, No I think I'll tell him to just save to a thumb drive to transfer to windows
[17:39] <ggg> is it possible to have indication for a reply from irc when i use pidgin  ?
[17:39] <Zencyde> mc_: Wubi made a number of mistakes when I last used it for my friend. He's ended up making the switch and we went ahead and installed from disc. No problems after that.
[17:40] <Dr_Willis> mc_:  thats one way. - I would much perfer the cd include virtualbox instead of wubi.
[17:40] <Zencyde> ggg: I got notifications whenever my name pops up in IRC. Is that not the same for you?
[17:40] <mc_> Zedde, So far it's working fine except for the isolation issue.
[17:40] <S-P> hello
[17:40] <moymoy> scunizi: my problem wasn't that compiz wasn't working.. it just wasn't working well with video... choppy video playback (only with compiz enabled) =[
[17:40] <Dr_Willis> mc_:  untill it breaks.. :)  then  no one kows how to fix wubi breakage.. :) and that 'issue' is a safty feature.. i belive.
[17:41] <ggg> Zencyde, are you using pidgin or xchat ?
[17:41] <mc_> Yea me too but this friend is rather ignorant to computor issues.
[17:41] <Zencyde> ggg: I am most certainly using Pidgin.
[17:41] <kevdog> ggg: dont use pidgin for irc -- well you can -- but its painful.  At the least use chatzilla
[17:41] <scunizi> moymoy: ah.. and what driver is installed ?? 180.xx or 185.xx
[17:41] <mc_> Thanks anyway just thought I'd ask
[17:41] <scunizi> moymoy: or perhaps the 177?
[17:41] <moymoy> scunizi: 185.18.14 or something
[17:41] <ggg> Zencyde, how do you get notifications in pidgin ?
[17:42] <moymoy> scunizi: downloaded from nvidia's website
[17:42] <Zencyde> mc_: Then it might be better to wait until Wubi is perfected, no? I had to work past the problems for my friend. Seems smarter to run your friend through a proper installation and to get GRUB and NTLDR to play  nice.
[17:42] <kevdog> ggg:  Purple plugin pack!
[17:42] <S-P> bob marley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:42] <Zencyde> ggg: I'm not sure. Let me see if I can find a plugin.
[17:42] <kevdog> ggg:  There is also a notification plugin from the purple plugin pack website!
[17:43] <hittt> I think i have a problem with ath5k
[17:43] <Zencyde> ggg: libnottify popups.
[17:43] <ggg> kevdog, what is purple plugin pack ? how can i enable it in pidgin ?
[17:43] <Zencyde> ggg: libnotify*
[17:43] <scunizi> moymoy: ah.. ok.. I occationally have issues with that driver as well.  your 6 series card would have worked fine on the 177 driver and if available 174.. You'll have to watch nvidia's page for the next version (they come quickly) and install that.
[17:43] <mc_> Zencyde, I'm working on him, I have removed all his propority software including IE and install gimp, inkscape, firefox, and Open office on all his windows machines
[17:44] <Zencyde> mc_: Just show him what repositories and package managers are and how to use them. That is easily the biggest plus to FOSS.
[17:44] <os11> scunizi, thx :)
[17:44] <Pernicious> hey guys, can you please tell me how to install tcl?
[17:44] <failers> anyone using karmic and do you recommed using it? or is it too bugged
[17:44] <moymoy> scunizi: bleh.. i installed this one because the previous ones were having problems with gnome-do(cky)! .. darn nvidia! but at least they code UNIX/Linux drivers.. good for them =]
[17:44] <nsadmin> apt-get install tcl?
[17:44] <kevdog> ggg:  Let me find the web site -- hold old
[17:45] <mc_> Does anybody know if Ubuntu supports Sprint air cards, I know they support verizon.
[17:45] <scunizi> os11: np :)
[17:45] <Zencyde> moymoy: I'm impressed by nVidia's binary drivers. Wish they'd open their specs but AMD doesn't seem to be doing that, either.
[17:45] <ggg> Zencyde, do you get notification when someone reply to your question or do you get notification when someone send message in the irc ?
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> he program 'tcl' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install tclx8.3
[17:45] <Pepsi> Hey :)
[17:45] <Pernicious> but the latest version is 8.5.7
[17:45] <Zencyde> ggg: I'd imagine it would work with messages. It notifies me whenever my name pops up in IRC. Which is why I hate myself when I forget to add the nick. :P
[17:46] <kevdog> ggg: http://plugins.guifications.org/trac/wiki/PluginPack
[17:46] <YBH___3> pdfgdl;
[17:46] <nsadmin> you want the latest?
[17:46] <hittt> I think i have a problem with ath5k
[17:46] <Dreki> my xserver crashed a min ago and i had to hard restart to fix it, if that ever happens again, is there anything i can try to get xserver back?
[17:46] <scunizi> moymoy: it's one of those things that when you find a driver that functions well, no issues, you stick with it.  Keep the binary because with every kernel upgrade you have to reinstall.
[17:46] <nsadmin> hittt: you said that already :P
[17:46] <Pepsi> Does ubuntu support NTFS?
[17:46] <scunizi> yes
[17:46] <kevix> Pepsi: yes.
[17:46] <Dreki> pepsi: yes
[17:46] <Pepsi> What is the best file format for Ubuntu
[17:46] <Pepsi> ?
[17:47] <hittt> nsadmin: ye but the channel is busy enough to hide it in moments
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> Pepsi:  you mean FILESYSTEM ?
[17:47] <enoch> hi all
[17:47] <Dreki> pepsi im useing ext4
[17:47] <Pepsi> Yeah, for memorysticks and suc
[17:47] <kevix> Pepsi: when I mount my NTFS partitons, it uses a FUSE modules to load the ntfs-3 stuff
[17:47] <Pepsi> such**
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> Pepsi:  depends on the exact needs.
[17:47] <hittt> Pepsi: EXT4 for 9.04
[17:47] <minimec> Pepsi: fat32
[17:47] <Zencyde> Man, options in Linux are pretty sweet. I've had a misbehaving application take away user input before and have SSHed into my box while sitting at it on my phone so that I could kill the offending process without bringing down my system. I am lost as to why people use Windows. :(
[17:47] <ggg> kevdog, checking this thanks
[17:47] <os11> whats diff between ext3 and ext4?
[17:47] <nsadmin> hittt: if you don't provide information, nothing will happen
[17:47] <Pepsi> Can't it support FAT64 which I can assume it is better?
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> os11:  ext4 is supposed to be faster.
[17:47] <Pepsi> But that is for windows
[17:47] <enoch> i'm trying the via drivers on a unichrome9 chipset, but when i start xorg it says that the "via" module does not exist, but if i type modprobe via it loads the module without problems... what can i dow?
[17:47] <kevix> Zencyde: heh
[17:47] <Pepsi> I mean Fat64
[17:47] <minimec> Pepsi: I would use fat32 for usb sticks.
[17:48] <Pepsi> But not under 2 gbyte
[17:48] <kevdog> ggg:  Do this at the command line  sudo apt-cache search purple
[17:48] <Dreki> pepsi id say for somthing u want other computers to be able to read, including windows computers NTFS or fat-32
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> Pepsi:  'better' depends on your needs. - use fat filesytems on external flash drives.
[17:48] <moymoy> Pepsi: i use ext4 on my computer.. and for ntfs, as far as i know .. ubuntu can READ and WRITE from ntfs.. but probably not a good idea to install onto an ntfs partition ... 1: file permissions  2: NTFS drivers are loaded as modules by default
[17:48] <hittt> nsadmin: It randomly hangs, killing the internet access
[17:48] <kevdog> ggg: Does anything come up
[17:48] <os11> i am using ext2 here for my netbook
[17:48] <kevix> os11: ext3 is tested, ext4 is very,very new and not tested.
[17:48] <os11> maybe ssd
[17:48] <Pepsi> Cool, so ext4 then
[17:48] <ggg> kevdog: sudo apt-get install purple  ??
[17:48] <Pepsi> And how much can it support
[17:48] <Pepsi> A terabyte
[17:48] <Pepsi> ?
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> Pepsi:  ext4 for external flash drive is not a good idea
[17:48] <hittt> nonon
[17:48] <hittt> Exabytes
[17:49] <Pernicious> Dr_Willis: it says E: Couldn't find package tclx3
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> Pernicious:  the command was
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install tclx8.3
[17:49] <kevdog> or aptitude!
[17:49] <Zencyde> Man, you guys are crazy. It's all about the ReiserFS.
[17:49] <Pepsi> Okay guys thnx for all the information
[17:49] <Pepsi> Bye
[17:49] <ftab> How do I apply a filter in evolution so that emails from specific user should automatically go to that ?
[17:49] <hittt> Pepsi: it supports up to 1 terabyte for 1 file. thousounds of terabytes for harddisk
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> thats what running 'tcl' command said.
[17:49] <om26er1> plz tell me can i use gnome themes on xubuntu
[17:49] <nsadmin> Pernicious if you want the latest, you could build it
[17:49] <kevdog> ggg:  sudo apt-cache search purple
[17:49] <moymoy> how do you ssh from a windows machine?
[17:50] <kevix> Zencyde: you do know about Hans ;)
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> om26er1:   for some parts you can.. since you are not using metacity..
[17:50] <Pepsi> Pepsi: it supports up to 1 terabyte for 1 file. (oh my god
[17:50] <nsadmin> moymoy you need an ssh client
[17:50] <kevdog> moymoy:  Through use of putty or use of cygwin openssh implementation
[17:50] <Zencyde> kevix: Isn't that the reason to use it? It's not being maintained, from my understanding.
[17:50] <scunizi> Zencyde: I like ReiserFS too.. but can't be read by the win side of the box (needed) and development is slow or nonexistant
[17:50] <ggg> kevdog: i got some list of packages
[17:50] <Zencyde> kevix: I mean, all the cool admins are doing it.
[17:50] <om26er1> Dr_Willis: what that mean can u plz clear me
[17:50] <Pernicious> Dr_Willis and how do i install tcl dev package?
[17:50] <ggg> kevdog: which should i install ? i am confused
[17:51] <kevix> Zencyde: with linux, there is choice.
[17:51] <ftab>  How do I apply a filter in evolution so that emails from specific user should automatically go to that ?
[17:51] <Pepsi> How can I edit the registry through Ubuntu?
[17:51] <moymoy> kevdog: nsadmin, so there's no other way but to download a client (onto someone else's) windows computer for my own benefit?
[17:51] <kevdog> ggg:  Your output should be a bunch of packages -- do you see purple plugin pack listed
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> om26er1:  Metacity is the gnome window maanger.. XFCE uses its own window manager.. so you can use some parts of the gnome 'themes' like  widgits/icons/colors/ but not the metacity theme parts.
[17:51] <ftab> Pepse there is no Registry concept in Ubuntu
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> om26er1:  theres also  xfce themes out..
[17:51] <kevix> Pepsi: I think you mean the 'sources.list'
[17:51] <Zencyde> XFCE?
[17:51] <nasrullah> my pidgin crashed on jaunty...segmentation error how to fix it???????
[17:51] <Zencyde> Should be using BlackBox.
[17:51] <kevdog> moymoy: or download a portable client and run from USB stick -- and yes you need a cliet app
[17:51] <realitytvkills> hi
[17:51] <Dreki> my xserver crashed a min ago and i had to hard restart to fix it, if that ever happens again, is there anything i can try to get xserver back?
[17:52] <Pepsi> YES
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> !xfce
[17:52] <om26er1> ok
[17:52] <moymoy> Pepsi: there's the gconfeditor which is sorta like registry editing.. probably what you're looking for
[17:52] <scunizi> kevix: ftab maybe he means editing the win. registry from ubuntu
[17:52] <realitytvkills> my HD only mounts as read-only
[17:52] <realitytvkills> it says it remounts as RO on errors, any advice?
[17:52] <kevix> scunizi: yikes!
[17:52] <ggg> kevdog: yes purple plugin is there
[17:52] <Pepsi> Thanks moymoy, googling now
[17:52] <Pepsi> :)
[17:52] <realitytvkills> oh, and my text doesn't show up when I type it
[17:52] <Zencyde> Dr_Willis: Thank you. That wasn't an inquisitive question, though. :)
[17:52] <ftab> hmm
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> its great when someone asks  a question.. then we have to guess what hes really asking.. :)
[17:52] <realitytvkills> but that;'s Freenode's fault
[17:52] <ggg> kevdog: so i am running sudo apt-get install purple-plugin
[17:52] <Pepsi> Lol
[17:52] <realitytvkills> advice?
[17:52] <scunizi> kevix: I know .. I shuddered with the thought as wel.
[17:52] <nasrullah> your help please..thank you
[17:53] <lavida> can someone help me to write startup script for changing color profile with xcalib
[17:53] <kevix> nasrullah: to fix a segmenation fault, you would need to debug the program and find the source code error.
[17:53] <kevdog> ggg:  do you see the specific name of the package??  If you do then its sudo apt-get (or aptitude) install <name of package>
[17:53] <Pepsi> nasrullah kefak
[17:53] <ggg> kevdog: sorry there is nothing like purple
[17:53] <ggg> kevdog: it is pidgin-plugin-pack - 30 useful plugins for pidgin
[17:53] <Zencyde> Man, why is #ubuntu so much fun right now? Must be all the ganj.
[17:53] <kevix> nasrullah: most folks just rerun the program and hope it doesnt happen again.
[17:53] <realitytvkills> anyone?
[17:53] <Pepsi> Guys do you get payed for helping us?
[17:54] <ggg> kevdog: are you using pidgin ? I think yes
[17:54] <om26er1> Dr_Willis: where can i get good themes
[17:54] <Zencyde> Pepsi: Haha, no.
[17:54] <ftab> realitytvkills all are here :-)
[17:54] <d_b> Hi, I'm looking for a program to download podcasts. It has to be in the repositories and I prefer command line, but it doesn't *have to* be if it's good enough. Right now I'm using gpodder but I don't like how all the files downloaded end up with a weird filename and how it temporarily hangs when starting a download
[17:54] <kevix> Zencyde: is the interweb full of weeds?
[17:54] <Pepsi> Then why?
[17:54] <Zencyde> kevix: Oh God, I hope so.
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> om26er1:  check the package manager. and the various theme web sites. like gome-look.org
[17:54] <kevdog> ggg: sudo aptitude install pidgin-plugin-pack
[17:54] <Zencyde> Pepsi: Why not? Some people like to help. :)
[17:54] <kevdog> Pepsi: send me my check!!!!
[17:54] <soultail> j ubuntu-ko
[17:54] <Pepsi> Yeah like me, but on the psp platform.
[17:54] <kevix> Pepsi: free software is about 'karma'. but if you like, send us some (beer, soda, a nice book,...)
[17:55] <nasrullah> pepsi alhamdollilah
[17:55] <Pepsi> How about a free megaupload premium :)
[17:55] <Zencyde> Ordering surprise pizza is an amazing gesture, if a little weird.
[17:55] <kevix> Pepsi: or you can find Ubuntu folks in your community/state and say hi to them.
[17:55] <ggg> kevdog: are you using pidgin now ?
[17:55] <kevdog> ggg: No!!!
[17:55] <ftab> Pepsi better you contribute your knowledge here ;)
[17:55] <ggg> kevdog: which software ?
[17:56] <Pepsi> You mean on PSPs :-)
[17:56] <kevix> Pepsi: Ubutnu calls then local ubutu groups (loco groups) there are many around the us and europe
[17:56] <kevdog> ggg: Chatzilla right now!
[17:56] <ftab>  How do I apply a filter in evolution so that emails from specific user should automatically go to that ?
[17:56] <Zencyde> Pepsi: See if you can get Ubuntu running on the PSP. Don't they use a RISC processor?
[17:56] <kevdog> Pepsi:  do you have any knowledge?
[17:56] <Pepsi> hahaha
[17:56] <Pepsi> Yes
[17:56] <Pepsi> But on what do you mean
[17:56] <Pepsi> ?
[17:56] <ggg> kevdog: i did this " sudo aptitude install pidgin-plugin-pack "
[17:56] <kevix> ftab: have you tried useing evoltion? It has a nice interface to add mail filters
[17:57] <om26er1> Dr_Willis: how to get transparency
[17:57] <Zencyde> So, I still giggle when I type "man woman" into terminal. :( Is that bad?
[17:57] <kevdog> ggg: Ok and what be happenin?
[17:57] <ftab> I am already using that, need to know how to apply filter and the one I specified, kevix :)
[17:57] <kevdog> man cow
[17:57] <ftab> om263rl Compiz should give you that
[17:57] <Zencyde> kevdog: Ew. :(
[17:57] <nasrullah> even after closing and re-start pidgin it crashes ...
[17:57] <Pepsi> nasrullah da5lak men wen 2enta
[17:58] <Pepsi> 2aw shoo bte2rabo lal sayyed hassan
 what kind of transperancy you need?
[17:58] <Zencyde> nasrullah: Pidgin? Real men use Finch.
[17:58] <ggg> kevdog: i am restarting pidgin and will let you know later
[17:58] <nasrullah> pepsi min mauritius akhri
[17:58] <om26er1> panels and windows
[17:58] <gartral> what does it mean when a package has the Install button greyed out, but doesn't mention a dependency?
[17:58] <ftab> are you using Gnome?
[17:58] <om26er1> ftab: panels and windows
[17:58] <kevdog> How do I use Finch?
[17:58] <kevix> Zencyde: I use finch!
[17:58] <ftab> then use compiz
 use compiz for that,
[17:58] <Pepsi> nasrullah, hal 2anta shee3e?
[17:58] <kevdog> I want my finch on a plate
[17:58] <Zencyde> kevdog: alt+f2 > terminal > finch
[17:59] <om26er1> ftab how to install compiz
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> om26er1:  no idea. check the xfce docs/homepages
 for that you need to have Nvidia or ATI or 3D graphics card
[17:59] <ggg> kevdog: seems nothing happens
[17:59] <gartral> kevdog open a Terminal and type finch
[17:59] <nasrullah> naam ana shia
[17:59] <Pepsi> 2alal ma3o
[17:59] <ggg> kevdog: have a reply !
[17:59] <Pepsi> 2alla*8
[17:59] <bazhang> nasrullah, english Pepsi you too
 do you have any?
[17:59] <om26er1> ok
[17:59] <om26er1> no
[17:59] <Pepsi> Okay :-P
[17:59] <Pepsi> Sorry
[17:59] <gartral> what does it mean when a package has the Install button greyed out, but doesn't mention a dependency?
[17:59] <Pepsi> I have to go now
[17:59] <Pepsi> bye
[17:59] <FloodBot3> Pepsi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:59] <gnubie> ftab in evolution you right click on the email you want a rule for and choose make a rule from the popup menu
[17:59] <ggg> kevdog: what is finch ?
[17:59] <revkevkev> hello
[18:00] <kevdog> finch -- terminal based pidgin?
[18:00] <DVA5912> I need a C++ IDe that supports 3d graphics.  Hes got to die again>!
[18:00] <bazhang> Pepsi, take chat elsewhere
[18:00] <nasrullah> pepsi from where?
[18:00] <mankash> how to set another ssid if the wireless card is acting as access point
[18:01] <om26er1> ftab: then i should just install simple themes
[18:01] <Pepsi> nasrullah on pm
[18:01] <Zencyde> dva5912: You're sick. :( What'd he do to you?
[18:01] <enoch> can someone help me with an unichrome vga card?
[18:01] <bazhang> !ot
[18:01] <gartral> !bots | pepsi
[18:01] <Shortguy109> Does anyone know how I can make my USB headphones work?
[18:01] <kevdog> ggg: Did you activate the plugin?
[18:01] <kevix> Pepsi: if you tell me what state you live in, I could find an Ubuntu LoCo team where you could meet other folks like us :)
[18:01] <DVA5912> Zencyde: Nothing. He just fell off the side of the cliff. My controller jamed. :D
[18:01] <kevdog> ggg: I think there are checkboxes and stuff
[18:01] <nasrullah> pepsi which country are you rom?
[18:01] <Zencyde> DVA5912: Are you playing Halo in Wine? :P
[18:01] <Pepsi> Are you kidding me?
[18:01] <kevdog> Pepsi: you are being asked out!
[18:02] <bazhang> nasrullah, pepsi Zencyde DVA5912 take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:02] <Pepsi> Or ban/
[18:02] <ggg> kevdog: how would i activate it ?
[18:02] <kevdog> 3 way!!!
[18:02] <DVA5912> bazhang, for your information i waiting on some one to reply to my problem
[18:02] <Ecsi> hi all
[18:02] <kevdog> I dont recall right now
[18:02] <phpgunner> :) back with ubuntu finally :P
[18:02] <Ecsi> pls help me !
[18:02] <revkevkev> what is the proper syntax when dialing someones sip address?
[18:02] <ggg> kevdog: tools >plugin
[18:02] <kevix> ggg: I dong think you need to do anything to activate plugins.
[18:02] <ggg> kevdog: then which to check ?
[18:02] <nasrullah> pepsi  wher you now
[18:02] <Pepsi> Nasrullah check you pm man, we can't talk here
[18:03] <kevix> ggg: or I should say, nothing beyond 'enableing' them in the preferences.
[18:03] <Ecsi> not shutdown ... (screenshot) http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/090711/ubuntu_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg
[18:03] <ggg> kevix: why no need to activate anything ?
[18:03] <DVA5912> I need a C++ IDe that supports 3d graphics. Ideas?
[18:03] <kevix> ggg: you need to 'enable' them, but not 'restart' pidgin.
[18:03] <phpgunner> .
[18:04] <Shortguy109> Does anyone know how I can make my USB headphones work?
[18:04] <ggg> kevix: are you using pidgin now ?
[18:04] <moymoy> Pepsi: thanks? thanks for what?
[18:04] <phpgunner> didn't know pidgin had irc until now :P
 thanks I did and it worked thank you very much
[18:04] <Ecsi> :( pls help for me !
[18:04] <ftab> :)
[18:04] <kevix> ggg: I am using 'finch' which is the console version of pidgin.
[18:04] <kevix> phpgunner: pidgin (and finch) have msn, irc, facebook chat, and more
[18:04] <kevdog> ggg:  Pidgin guifications is not part of the plugin pack:  http://plugins.guifications.org/trac/wiki/Guifications
[18:04] <ggg> kevix: how can i install finch ?
[18:05] <gnubie> ftab;  yw
[18:05] <phpgunner> kevix: knew it had a bunch, but didn't know it had irc
[18:05] <phpgunner> which is pretty nice :P
[18:05] <phpgunner> like it better than xchat
[18:05] <kevix> ggg: 'sudo aptitude install finch'
[18:05] <DVA5912> Why doesnt my wifi LED work? It works with windows... not ubuntu?
[18:06] <kevdog> who cares -- although it is annoying
[18:06] <th0r> DVA5912: you need to write a better driver
[18:06] <phpgunner> DVA5912: my wifi led doesn't work right either, but wifi works fine
[18:06] <DVA5912> phpgunner: same deal here
[18:06] <Ecsi> PLS HELP dont shutdown my cp... (screenshot) http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/090711/ubuntu_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg
[18:06]  * kevdog after learning about finch I dont want it
[18:06] <phpgunner> i wouldn;t worry about it, as long as it works ;)
[18:06] <DVA5912> th0r: you think i wrote a driver?! LOLOLOLOL
[18:07] <th0r> DVA5912: I think the guy who wrote the driver he shared with you didn't place much value on an led
[18:07] <kevdog> ggg: is pidgin guifications contained in the repository?
[18:07] <kevix> th0r: maybe it save energy ;)
[18:07] <kevdog> sudo apt-cache search guification
[18:07] <th0r> kevix: extends battery life
[18:08]  * kevdog says that I personally hate irc through pidgin -- but thats me
[18:08] <ggg> kevdog: how can i use finch , i typed finch in terminal
[18:08] <DVA5912> kevix: a 2.5 volt led...... sure k
[18:08] <lavida> can someone help me to write startup script for changing color profile with xcalib
[18:08] <th0r> DVA5912: It isn't important like the power led...I mean, without that how would we know the computer was on?
[18:08] <ggg> kevix: how can i use finch , i install finch
[18:08] <kevdog> ggg: Ive never used finch.  If you want CLI chat -- what not irssi?
[18:08] <ggg> kevdog: ok
[18:08] <DVA5912> th0r: move the mouse maby?
[18:08] <kevix> ggg: type 'finch' on the command line
[18:08] <hittt> th0r: the HD always makes a sound, i check it from that xD
[18:09] <Starchaser> Hello.
[18:09] <gartral> th0r: fan?
[18:09] <kevdog> ggg: Nothing is wrong with the GUI pidgin BTW
[18:09] <minimec> Ecsi: You are logged in with more then one session. Go toj'Ubuntu User' on the upper right of you image and change to that second uder and logout that user.
[18:09] <ggg> kevdog: i'm getting notification in pidgin now
[18:09] <kevdog> ggg:  Ok -- wonder what plugin it was!
[18:09] <phpgunner> gui pidgin fine here
[18:09] <DVA5912>
[18:09] <hittt> gartral: fans can shut down too!
[18:09] <leagris> hello, my wireless connection using WG111v3 802.11g Adapter was plagged with Roamed from BSSID none every 2 minutes. NetworkManager cause the plague and I had to configure it the hard way in /etc/network/interfaces. By the way networkmanager still show on desktop and says it is not connected but it is realy connected. Are there fixes for NetworkManager regarder poor flakey wireless support?
[18:09]  * kevdog says maybe ill play around with finch -- very nooooobie on that
[18:09] <iamslango> where can I find details on how a particular package is built?
[18:10] <dethray> when I stop gdm to get into the console my system freezes with a black screen. I'm using gdm stop
[18:10] <kevdog> leagris -- wicd
[18:10] <kevdog> !wicd
[18:10] <ggg> kevdog: i'm not sure exactly, the notification is nothing but a smile icon at the top righe corner
[18:10] <Ecsi> minimec : Thx
[18:10] <kevdog> ggg:  Look at the pidgin guifications plugin
[18:10] <minimec> Ecsi: np
[18:10] <kevdog> ggg: I gave you the website
[18:11] <th0r> dethray: don't stop gdm...use 'init 2'
[18:11] <ggg> kevdog: i get the notification as a "smile icon" at the top right corner where the pidgin icon is
[18:11] <kevdog> init 6 will reboot
[18:11] <hittt> ggg: notify-send maybe?
[18:11] <leagris> kevdog fine, have you experienced with the Roaming to none every 2 minuts and is it solved with wicd?
[18:11] <th0r> dethray: but you can get into a console by pressing Alt-Ctl-F2 and you can get back into x again wwiht Alt-F7
[18:12] <kevdog> http://plugins.guifications.org/trac/wiki/Guifications will explain a toaster popup!
[18:12] <ggg> kevdog: i get the notification when i open and work in another window or in another program/application
[18:12] <Starchaser> hello, can i upgrade direct from 7.10 to 9.04 without step-by-step updating?
[18:12] <dethray> Still getting a blank screen, th0r... :)
[18:12] <kevdog> leagris: I dont have your problem but unless you need gui VPN support -- I would use WICD IMO!
[18:12] <bazhang> Starchaser, no
[18:13] <moymoy> Starchaser: it's not a good idea to skip so many versions.. lots of things will be broken, but you can upgrade to an LTS version like 8.10 and go on to 9.04
[18:13] <kevdog> Starchaser -- Burn a new cd and install from scatch
[18:13] <th0r> dethray: a blank screen with what? init 2?
[18:13] <Shortguy109> Does anyone know how I can make my USB headphones work?
[18:13] <bazhang> moymoy, 8.10 is not lts
[18:13] <r696> How do I find out what version of a package is available in Ubunut 9.04's repo? I need to know what version of Erlang, 9.04 (Jaunty) has in it's repos.
[18:13] <ggg> kevdog: did you mean "sudo aptitude install pidgin-guifications
[18:13] <ggg> "
[18:13] <hittt> 8.04 is LTS
[18:13] <dethray> Correct, th0r
[18:13] <moymoy> bazhang: huh? 8.04 then?
[18:13] <bazhang> moymoy, yes
[18:13] <forrest> is it at all possible to downgrade the xserver to 1.5 from 1.6?
[18:13] <dethray> ctrl-alt-f2 gives me a blank screen
[18:14] <kevdog> ggg:  Yes try that but then get back to me -- you will need a theme file in addition to the plugin
[18:14] <Ecsi> ha rootal lepek be az gnomeba
[18:14] <forrest> (this is in jaunty)
[18:14] <th0r> dethray: init 2 should force a reboot into a command line login prompt
[18:14] <bazhang> Ecsi, english here please
[18:14] <leagris> thanks kevdog
[18:14] <th0r> dethray: does it reboot or just lock up?
[18:14] <Ecsi> sorry ... another chanel write
[18:14] <dethray> Lets see
[18:15] <kevdog> leagris: I usually connect via the command line but imdano the WICD developer is really good with help and is alot of times in this channel.
[18:15] <dethray> Hmm
[18:15] <kevdog> ggg: http://plugins.guifications.org/trac/wiki/Guifications#HowdoIinstallatheme
[18:15] <dethray> sudo init 2
[18:15] <dethray> ??
[18:15] <Starchaser> bazhang, moymoy kevdog : thanks
[18:16] <th0r> dethray: right...you'll need sudo
[18:16] <dethray> Noting happens :)
[18:16] <kevdog> ▬♂,J
[18:16] <ggg> kevdog: i install pidgin-guifications
[18:17] <kevdog> ggg: Now you need to install a theme and you'll be good to go!
[18:17] <th0r> dethray: oops...too many years in suse....you need init 1 and it will force single user mode. In ubuntu there is no non-X multiuser mode
[18:17] <drone> I'm getting bzip2 sub process errors whenever I try to update, no matter what servers I use, could someone help me set it straight?
[18:17] <th0r> dethray: but if you want such a login why not use Alt-Ctl-F2-F6....you can have five command prompts plus X running at once
[18:18] <ggg> kevdog: which theme ?
[18:18] <drone> I've already looked all over forums and various other sites, but no fix helped
[18:18] <kevdog> ggg:  The theme tar.gz files are located here: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=browse&group_id=92888&atid=676821   Download one of the files..  Then read the wiki instruction page on how to install the theme
[18:18] <drone> I'm also getting badsig errors as well
[18:18] <kevdog> ggg:  Whatever them you want!!!
[18:18] <archman> Hello, guys is it possible to boot 32bit ubuntu, and wipe the partition where the 64bit is and reinstall with 32bit? i also have some other partition with vista, and grub is controlling all now. is this possible?
[18:18] <Shortguy109> Does anyone know how I can make my USB headphones work?
[18:18] <archman> to boot live cd 32bit****+
[18:18] <kevdog> ggg: Ubuntu Human?
[18:19] <th0r> archman: should work...but I never guarantee anything in that arean
[18:19] <cano> hola!
[18:19] <th0r> (arena)
[18:19] <kevdog> ggg: MSN Messenger?
[18:19] <ggg> kevdog: what do you mean by ubuntu human ?
[18:19] <th0r> archman: make sure you choose a custom partition and don't nuke the windows area
[18:19] <kevdog> ggg: Pidgin Guification Human Theme?
[18:19] <cano> estoy buscando un canal de ubuntu en castellano,
[18:19] <viginbala> hi thr?
[18:19] <archman> th0r, thanks
[18:19] <kevdog> ggg: Go to the website and download one of the theme files!!!
[18:19] <bazhang> cano, /join #ubuntu-es
[18:20] <cano> ok, gracias!
[18:20] <moymoy> archman: you WILL be able to boot into 32-bit OS and a 32-bit ISOLINUX .. and it will function, you'll be able to wipe your drive and use ubuntu normally
[18:20] <ggg> kevdog: hundreds of theme here http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?limit=100&func=&group_id=92888&atid=676821&assignee=&status=&category=&artgroup=&keyword=&submitter=&artifact_id=&assignee=&status=&category=&artgroup=&submitter=&keyword=&artifact_id=&submit=Filter
[18:20] <JoeM> anyone use virtualbox?
[18:20] <moymoy> archman: but ubuntu will probably only recognize 3.7GB of RAM max if you have 4 or more GB
[18:21] <drone> JoeM: I do, its great!
[18:21] <moymoy> JoeM: i have a virtual box
[18:21] <viginbala> ubottu i need to install webcam on my pc give me command
[18:21] <MetaMorfoziS> Hi all! Can anybody tell me why netcat dies with "invalid connection to xxx" while i try to make a simple tcp connection between them? (shell1: netcat -l localhost -p 6000 shell2: netcat localhost 6000) ?
[18:21] <th0r> JoeM: if we do we are going to wait until you ask a question about it
[18:21] <daedalus_> Hi
[18:21] <ggg> kevdog: cofused which should i install and how to install one ?
[18:21] <big-G-upstairs> thanks ggg , but who needs hundreds of themes for just one desktop ? :P
[18:21] <archman> moymoy, i only have 64 ubuntu and vista, and i want to replace 64bit ubuntu with 32bit ubuntu
[18:21] <dethray> Well, ended up freezing the system, th0r
[18:21] <ggg> kevdog: how to install a theme ?
[18:21] <th0r> dethray: what...init 2?
[18:21] <dethray> init 1
[18:21] <leebert64> Got a Dell Latitude, it has an S-Video port, I'm unable to get a display from.  Is there a key stroke needed to enable it?
[18:21] <scunizi> moymoy: archman any 32 bit os will only recognize 3.2+ but less then 4gigs of ram..
[18:21] <moymoy> archman: it's possible..
[18:21] <th0r> dethray: did it start a reboot or freeze before loading grub to restart?
[18:22] <minimec> viginbala: If your webcam is supported by the kernel, you don't have to install anything.
[18:22] <JoeM> good, maybe one of you know what is a good webcam (Logitech is easy for me to find) that I can share with virtualbox is... I asked earlier but I guess no one used it at all
[18:22] <dethray> froze with a blank screen
[18:22] <archman> thanks moymoy!
[18:22]  * kevdog says
[18:22] <minimec> viginbala: What kind of device is that?
[18:22] <viginbala> minimec how to check that
[18:22] <kevdog> ggg: what?  I lost connection for a minute
[18:22] <moymoy> scunizi: not if he enables PAE! ;) ... never tried it though.. only have 2 GB of RAM anyway
[18:22] <th0r> dethray: sounds like a problem with shutdown. If you try to shutdown the computer from X does it shut down OK?
[18:22] <viginbala> minimec that webcam name is zippys indian company
[18:22] <Shortguy109> Does anyone know how I can make my USB headphones work?
[18:22] <minimec> viginbala: plug in the device if it is usb.
[18:22] <dethray> Yes it does just fine
[18:23] <viginbala> minimec plugged
[18:23] <kevdog> ggg: You there -- You drag and drop the theme.tar.gz file
[18:23] <minimec> viginbala: Open a terminal <alt>F2 gnome-terminal
[18:23] <dethray> I think it has to do with a mode change.  xorg and nvidia driver only see one resolution.
[18:23] <th0r> dethray: from the desktop, if you press Alt-Ctl-F2 do you get to a command prompt?
[18:23] <viginbala> minimec i did aftr that
[18:23] <dethray> I also get a blank screen, th0r
[18:23] <ggg> kevdog: which should i download from http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?limit=100&func=&group_id=92888&atid=676821&assignee=&status=&category=&artgroup=&keyword=&submitter=&artifact_id=&assignee=&status=&category=&artgroup=&submitter=&keyword=&artifact_id=&submit=Filter
[18:24] <minimec> viginbala: type dmesg in it. The last lines indivate if the device was recognized by the system.
[18:24] <kevdog> ggg: Download whatever tar.gz file you want
[18:24] <th0r> dethray: hmmm....might be an issue with the framebuffer driver for non-X video...haven't messed with Framebuffer in years
[18:24] <minimec> viginbala: If it is recognized you will probably have a new /dev/video0 device.
[18:24] <dethray> Thanks for the help, th0r :)
[18:24] <dethray> I'll keep hacking away
[18:25] <th0r> dethray: sounds like graphic (X) video works OK, but not the text mode...just the opposite of what everyone else complains about <smile>
[18:25] <kevdog> ggg: I think I use Pidgin Guification Human Theme -- I think -- I don't remember
[18:25] <viginbala> minimec wait i'll give d link see that
[18:25] <minimec> viginbala: now open gstreamer-properties. <alt>F2 gstreamer-properties.
[18:25] <JoeM> drone, moymoy: you have any experience with sharing USB webcams into virtualbox?
[18:25] <dethray> haha so true
[18:25] <moymoy> dethray: do you have usplash enabled at boot?
[18:25] <ggg> kevdog: vista light can't download from http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2803627&group_id=92888&atid=676821
[18:25] <moymoy> JoeM: VirtualboxOSE doesn't support USB's
[18:25] <kevdog> ggg: Try another theme then
[18:26] <JoeM> moymoy I know that, I installed the one from sun
[18:26] <weranse> hello
[18:26] <kevdog> ggg: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=92888&atid=676821&file_id=263816&aid=1880191
[18:26] <mikebeecham> is there any way of repositioning or customising the notification panel that arrived with Jaunty?
[18:26] <dethray> Uhm let me check the grub.conf moymoy
[18:26] <JoeM> moymoy I currently have a quickcam pro 5000, but having a hard time getting it to work with Ubuntu in general (read it's not that well supported), so I was going to get another one... just want to make sure it'll work with virtualbox as well as Ubuntu
[18:26] <kevdog> ♂▬♂☼
[18:27] <minimec> JoeM: There was(maybe still is) a problem with Logitech cams. You have to remove the linux EHCI driver, if you wanna use the cam in Virtualbox. 'sudo rmmod ehci'. Warnig: You loose USB 2.0 support in ubuntu until the next boot.
[18:27] <viginbala> minimec opened that one
[18:27] <moymoy> JoeM: sorry .. i've never worked with webcams myself
[18:27] <moymoy> dethray: should be in menu.lst
[18:27] <minimec> viginbala: Go to the video tab and try to find a webcam there.
[18:27] <kevdog> any webcams work in ubuntu
[18:27] <JoeM> minimec but USB 2.0 support comes back after reboot, and the cams still works?
[18:28] <ggg> kevdog: downloaded it now how to install it ?
[18:28] <moymoy> he wants it to work in a virtual box too.. but vboxOSE doesn't support usb i don't think.
[18:28] <cjae> !ipod
[18:28] <JoeM> moymoy np, maybe you can help me figure out why virtualbox keeps losing internet connection randomly (and for short bursts), I have the network interface set up as NAT
[18:28] <th0r> moymoy: correct...ose doesn't...he needs 3.0
[18:28] <PeskyJ> how do I see the gateway address on a network adapter? I thought it was displayed in ifconfig but it's not
[18:28] <minimec> JoeM: USB 2.0 comes back, but you have to remove it again before you start the Virtualbox, if you want to use it in Virtualbox ;)
[18:28] <kevdog> ggg; http://plugins.guifications.org/trac/wiki/Guifications#HowdoIinstallatheme
[18:29] <PhantomSV> a good ftp server program for ubuntu?
[18:29] <dethray> moymoy, there is a "splash" in there but no usplash.
[18:29] <JoeM> minimec well that's just plain irritating
[18:29] <th0r> JoeM: try switching the network device for the guest to Intel Pro
[18:29] <viginbala> minimec: video plugin? video for linux 2(v4l2)
[18:29] <jrib> !ftpd | PhantomSV
[18:29] <minimec> viginbala: I guess yes.
[18:29] <kevdog> ggg:  Do the first bullet point -- its the easiest.  Bullet Point #2 also works however its a little bit more advanced method
[18:29] <Flannel> PhantomSV: What are you going to use it for?  just personal use?
[18:30] <PhantomSV> Flannel, yea i want to allow my frinds to download some stuff
[18:30] <kevdog> proftpd
[18:30] <viginbala> minimec: but dmesg msg not shown like this /dev/video0 device.
[18:30] <christina> hi
[18:30] <minimec> JoeM: Seems to be a major problem, as that bug exists quiet a long time.
[18:30] <PhantomSV> kevdog, but i tried that and i was lost, how could i add users?
[18:30] <Flannel> PhantomSV: You'd be better off going with sftp.  It's more secure, and easier to set up
[18:30] <moymoy> dethray: okay... that just means it shows the little ubuntu logo and a progress bar when you turn on your computer.. i was just wondering why you got a blank screen when you CTRL+ALT+F2'd ..
[18:30] <kevdog> Flannel:  Thanks for mentioning that == I did not know that!
[18:31] <JoeM> minimec no way to get USB 2.0 back besides reboot?  I only need support for the cam for an online class (classroom uses windows only software, wine and all other attemps to make it work failed) for a couple hours 2-3 days a week
[18:31] <moymoy> dethray: if you had other options in there, disabling splash and changing the resolution..
[18:31] <dethray> Me too :P
[18:31] <kevdog> Hold on -- sftp uses ssh
[18:31] <minimec> viginbala: So use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and copy/paste the dmesg results.
[18:31] <Bullaro> Anyone knows what this means? Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":1002.0".
[18:31] <JoeM> thor switched it, now I have no connection
[18:31] <viginbala> minimec: oh sure
[18:31] <PhantomSV> Flannel, to install search for sftp in synaptic?
[18:31] <kevdog> so sorry I did now that!!
[18:31] <volk> how come when i type : mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>< data.txt , it doesn't arrive at the the myemail mailbox?  is it only for internal email?
[18:31] <ggg> kevdog: thanks
[18:31] <kevdog> ggg:  Does it work now!
[18:31] <kevdog> ?
[18:31] <Flannel> PhantomSV: just install openssh-server, and then port forward your ssh port (22)
[18:31] <minimec> JoeM: You could try to modprobe ehci afterwards. Don't know if it works.
[18:31] <kevdog> Flannel:  You need an openssh server
[18:32] <th0r> JoeM: I had the same intermittent problem with the default device....once I switched to the INtelPro nic everything settled down. Run 7 different OSs with no issues
[18:32] <PhantomSV> Flannel, now u confused me, sftp now openssh-server?
[18:32] <Bullaro> Anyone knows what this means? Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":1002.0". Its the error I got while installing mysql-server5.1. This error appears like 10 times when the server is starting
[18:32] <kevdog> Is there a way to only allow sftp access and not shell access with openssh -- or do you need a jail?
[18:32] <PeskyJ> how do I get the gateway IP address as sent by the DHCP server?
[18:32] <dethray> can I make a grub entry that will boot me into the console?
[18:32] <kevdog> ggg:  Results?
[18:32] <Flannel> PhantomSV: sftp uses ssh, so yes.
[18:32] <PeskyJ> ifconfig doesn't display it
[18:32] <viginbala> minimec: http://paste.ubuntu.com/215605/ see this
[18:33] <PeskyJ> any other programs that might?
[18:33] <kevdog> Flannel: But what if you don't want to give shell or console access?
[18:33] <th0r> dethray: I think you just need to type 'single' into the grub options line when it appears
[18:33] <Shortguy109> Does anyone know how I can make my USB headphones work?
[18:33] <ggg> kevdog: yes it works,but the problem is the guification notifies too much, if someone replies me or if someone asks something to everybody the notification pops up
[18:33] <Flannel> kevdog: He's just doing it for friends, etc, so that's not an issue.
[18:33] <PokerFacePenguin> volk: this might help you some http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/sendmail-from-the-command-line-288920/
[18:33] <dethray> Thanx th0r
[18:33] <minimec> viginbala: Could you do the same with lsusb? thx ;)
[18:33] <th0r> dethray: but that I think forces a boot into runlevel 1 just like init 1 does...so will probably lock your system up
[18:33] <kevdog> Flannel:  Yea but one friend tells another friend ... and so on
[18:33] <dethray> hehe
[18:34] <PhantomSV> exactly
[18:34] <ggg> kevdog: is it possible to restict those notification when someone does not reply me
[18:34] <nmatrix9> Hey guys I'm in a real bind here, I tried to update my raid driver to the latest centos kernel did a reboot and I'm getting kernel panics, when I try to boot to my previous working kernel I get Error 15: file not found
[18:34] <rebel> Here is a quick question for anyone. I just did a software raid 5 using mdadm. When mounting the /dev/md0 to a folder such as /var/media it doesn't give me an error.. but I don't know how to check to make sure that it did mount ok because when I see the properties of the folder it only shows 155GB instead of the 6.7TB volume I mounted..
[18:34] <viginbala> minimec: wait again give u that one
[18:34] <abhilash1> how to crack .rar passwaords, i downloaded a video from rapidshare, now its asking password when i opened through archieve manager??please help
[18:34] <PhantomSV> !sftp
[18:34] <nightrid3r> nmatrix9: #centos
[18:35] <Flannel> kevdog: You can restrict them down, there is rssh, which is a shell that only allows the sftp/etc stuff to happen
[18:35] <kevdog> ggg:  I have no idea on that one -- that is why I don't use pidgin with irc.
[18:35] <JoeM> thor yeah... can't get a connection with the Intel Pro desktop one
[18:35] <Bullaro> Anyone knows what this means? Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":1002.0". Its the error I got while installing mysql-server5.1. This error appears like 10 times when the server is starting
[18:35] <viginbala> minimec; http://paste.ubuntu.com/215607/ see this
[18:35] <th0r> JoeM: sorry...was worth a shot
[18:35] <kevdog> Flannel -- thats a jailing variant.
[18:35] <th0r> JoeM: are you using the OSE version of vb or V3.0?
[18:35] <JoeM> th0r 3.0
[18:36] <kevdog> ggg: chatzilla!!
[18:36] <kelli> any way to check what video format i can whatch?
[18:36] <kevdog> kelli:  vlc = any format
[18:36] <dethray> ok made some changes to the menu.lst see if that'll work.
[18:36] <abhilash1> how to crack .rar passwaords, i downloaded a video from rapidshare, now its asking password when i opened through archieve manager??please help
[18:36] <Bullaro> !msql
[18:36] <Bullaro> !mysql
[18:36] <SNAX> vlc ftw! WOOT WOOT
[18:36] <th0r> dethray: what is your screen resolution?
[18:36] <JoeM> th0r I tried the MT Server one, it wanted to connect to the internet to install drivers, heh
[18:37] <Daremo> help i manaded to screw up my x server januty64x
[18:37] <sebsebseb> hi
[18:37] <Daremo> manged
[18:37] <minimec> viginbala: ok. Let's search the net togehter. Let's start with this. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=586593
[18:37] <Flannel> !illegal | abhilash1
[18:37] <PhantomSV> kevdog, help me?
[18:37] <dethray> 1680x1050...it is the only availible resolution
[18:37] <ggg> kevdog: i'm testing the guification configuration ,can you just say some word with me ? just for testing
[18:37] <kelli> i'm unable to watch some video's on some web sits
[18:37] <PhantomSV> kevdog, i want to install a ftp program and be able to add users via graphical interface
[18:37] <dethray> BRB
[18:38] <abhilash1>  < ubottu> oh i'm extremely sorry, this was some old video, sorry again:)
[18:38] <th0r> dethray: next time it boots, type 'vga=792' on the grub options line and then see if Alt-Ctl-F2 works
[18:38] <dethray> ok
[18:38] <Flannel> PhantomSV: sftp will allow you to do so, adding users via users/groups
[18:38] <th0r> dethray: that will force 1024x768 for text mode
[18:38] <Daremo> machine boots up only in terminal and i get axuth: error in locking authority file /home/rob/.Xauthority when i try StartX
[18:38] <PhantomSV> Flannel, i have no clue how to use that
[18:38] <dethray> I'll give it a shot
[18:38] <dethray> thanx
[18:38] <JoeM> th0r oh well... I'll deal with this for now
[18:39] <Daremo> already have tried sudo dpgk-reconfigure-phigh xserver.org also
[18:40] <Flannel> PhantomSV: It's pretty easy, just as easy (if not easier) than any other config thing.
[18:40] <OpensourceFTW> hello, i was wondering if someone could help me with a triple monitor problem?
[18:40] <ggg> hello ,how to use finch ?
[18:40] <th0r> ggg: man finch
[18:40] <PhantomSV> so how i install sftp?
[18:40] <mobi-sheep> ggg: http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using%20Finch
[18:40] <Flannel> PhantomSV: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[18:41] <Daremo> anyone any good with xserver?
[18:41] <geld> what are you trying to do?
[18:41] <JoeM> th0r, minimec: When I click Devices -> Install Guest Additions... nothing happens (Guest is windows xp)
[18:41] <ted_> I installed Ubuntu server; now how can I put the desktop's pretty face and usability on it?
[18:41] <th0r> JoeM: did you mount the Guest Additions iso?
[18:41] <Flannel> ted_: install ubuntu-desktop
[18:41] <mobi-sheep> JoeM: Check 'My Computer' and look at CD/DVD device.
[18:42] <Ironhide> can you save files to casper-rw loop files or just settings and stuff? for persistent portable installs
[18:42] <ted_> apt-get?
[18:42] <PhantomSV> Flannel, installed already
[18:42] <minimec> JoeM: see thor message
[18:42] <PhantomSV> Flannel, whats next? :)
[18:42] <Daremo> stuck in terminal mode, cant get startX to run
[18:42] <geld> ubuntu server doesn't come with x installed...I suppose you could get it but you might just consider installing the desktop version
[18:42] <OpensourceFTW> need help with a triple monitor setup
[18:42] <th0r> JoeM: mount the iso in /usr/share/virtualbox, then look in XP in the CD and you should see a Guest Additions .exe file...run that
[18:42] <Flannel> PhantomSV: Then you don't need to isntall anything else.  Set up your users with the users and groups thing, you'll just type their username and password and hit add (don't make them admin users)
[18:42] <Bullaro> what was the command to set the root pwd again?
[18:42] <Flannel> Bullaro: You don't want to set the root password.
[18:43] <geld> use sudo
[18:43] <Bullaro> flannel: why not?
[18:43] <geld> security
[18:43] <JoeM> th0r, mobi-sheep: yeah, I saw it in my computer... was just expecting some kind of message. thanks.
[18:43] <ted_> Flannel: it's working!  Thanks so much.
[18:43] <Daremo> anyone able to help me get xserver to start?
[18:44] <kelli> should flash videos work in here?
[18:44] <th0r> JoeM: once you have them installed, it might be necessary to restart xp, then you should see the Guest options in the XPs window menu
[18:44] <Bullaro> For some reason I cant connect to the my shared folder... :S. I shared a folder on my ubuntu machine and want to get access to it from my windows machine.. but I need a login and pass. And It doesnt let me access it with my ubuntu account
[18:44] <mobi-sheep> kelli: You installed flash yet?
[18:44] <kelli> how do i do that?
[18:44] <Flannel> Bullaro: samba accounts are separate from regular login accounts, you'll need to set it up
[18:44] <Flannel> !samba | Bullaro
[18:45] <mobi-sheep> kelli: You're using 32bit or 64bit?
[18:45] <kelli> 32
[18:45] <dethray> th0r, its gotta be these nvidia ddrivers.  the framebuffer worked fine at boot...
[18:45] <Daremo> need some help fixing xserver, stuck in terminal mode currently
[18:45] <JoeM> th0r yup, got it!
[18:45] <geld> I have an installation problem with Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop.  I can boot from the cd and I get to the menu with the installation options. My options are "Try Ubuntu without any..." and "live-inwall".  Selecting either one simply pops up a message box and then nothing happens.
[18:46] <mobi-sheep> kelli: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-installer
[18:46] <th0r> dethray: forcing 1024x768 didn't help?
[18:46] <Sweet-P> hello all, is it possible to use apt sources that are 32-bit in 64-bit jaunty?  I keep getting errors about how the "amd64" dirs can't be found
[18:47] <Daremo> sigh
[18:47] <geld> The message box simply says, "+casper/vmlinuz" and there's an OK button.
[18:47] <dethray> It worked during boot after I turned off the splash screen, once gdm starts it doesn't go to text mode via ctrl-alt-f2
[18:47] <nasrullah> hi
[18:47] <Daremo> need some help fixing xserver, stuck in terminal mode currently
[18:47] <Bullaro> do I need mysql to use samba?
[18:48] <Sweet-P> Bullaro: no, they're independent of each other
[18:48] <geld> Daremo: what error message do you get when you type "startx" ?
[18:48]  * __d3f0__ is away: Ausente por ahora
[18:48] <Flannel> !away > __d3f0__
[18:48] <Daremo> geld,  machine boots up only in terminal and i get axuth: error in locking authority file /home/rob/.Xauthority when i try StartX
[18:49] <fosa> isn't there supposed to be a way to get ubuntu to remember all the open windows and programs and open them on restart?
[18:49] <Sweet-P> here's part of the error I get "...binary-amd64/Packages  404 Not Found"
[18:49] <Sweet-P> the source is 32-bit only
[18:49] <minimec> viginbala: After doing som research, I have to tell you, that your webcam is not supported right now, but it could be supported with the uvc webcam driver. Looks that the cam doesn't apply 100% uvc standard.
[18:49] <Daremo> geld, plus usr/bin/x11/x: error while loading shared librariest: libcryypto.so.0.9.8
[18:49] <EDinNY> Just installed 9.04.  How do I update kernel?
[18:49] <darlykaiser> good afternoon
[18:50] <viginbala> minimec: how to apply that?
[18:50] <Flannel> EDinNY: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:50] <mobi-sheep> Sweet-P: What package?
[18:50] <Sweet-P> Flannel beat me to it
[18:50] <darlykaiser> i have a problem with ubuntu 9.04
[18:50] <darlykaiser> and firefox
[18:50] <geld> Daremo: is this a server installation? did something happen to your system that started this?
[18:50] <nztal> Flannel, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, if that person is running jaunty already ?
[18:50] <viginbala> darlyaiser: what problem on firefox ?
[18:50] <EDinNY> Flannel: every time there is a kernel or restricted module update it is a dist-upgrade?
[18:50] <darlykaiser> while I was using firefox, the whole system gets frozen
[18:51] <Flannel> nztal: dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade from one version of Ubuntu to another
[18:51] <nztal> Flannel, ooh ok.  what does it do ?
[18:51] <nsahoo> I installed ubuntu on my laptop, I was getting sound, but, after I updated with software update I am not getting any  audio
[18:51] <EDinNY> thanks
[18:51] <Sweet-P> mobi-sheep: i'm trying to add the BackTrack4 tools to ubuntu 9 x64
[18:51] <minimec> viginbala: Well you can always use the bleeding edge dev snapshots of the uvc driver, but you have to compile that one yourself. You could also try to contact the uvc devs to ask them for support of your cam. MAybe future Ubuntu versions support your cam.
[18:51] <snarkster> wow my amd-64 version is acting really wierd.
[18:51] <myself> hey I tried to install firefox 3.5 by doing this method https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5/+question/76437 and i restarted firefox and it still says I have  version 3.0.12
[18:51] <Daremo> geld, no 9.04 desktop, was playing with google earth this morning, installed the newest one and foud a thread saying to change libcrypto.so.0.9.8  to .bak at the end
[18:51] <Flannel> nztal: It's like upgrade, but it will pull in new dependencies (the kernel metapackage depends on different versions of linux-image-*)
[18:52] <nztal> Flannel, is that the same thing as sudo aptitude safe-upgrade ?
[18:52] <Daremo> geld, after rebooting, x server wont start
[18:52] <nztal> Flannel, thank you
[18:52] <mobi-sheep> Sweet-P: You could just download an ISO or use !chroot to chroot 32bit in 64bit.
[18:52] <snarkster> I try to watch movies in full screen and it gets a kernel panic, taking forever to copy files to the server
[18:52] <darlykaiser> since I write the URL or after using firefox the system got frozen and I had to kill the computer for many times
[18:52] <Sweet-P> that's a helluva idea...i'll try it now
[18:52] <viginbala> minimec:  hw do i do compile?
[18:52] <Sweet-P> thanks!
[18:52] <nsahoo> I am getting bells, but, when I play video with flash or a video with the media player I get no audio, only static
[18:52] <coffeej> how do i share files between 2 linux boxes?
[18:53] <mobi-sheep> coffeej: sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[18:53] <geld> Daremo, is libcrypto.so.0.9.8 still named .bak?  can you change it back to what it was?
[18:53] <darlykaiser> cofeej: use giver
[18:53] <snarkster> coffeej: nfs is pretty easy to setup
[18:53] <Flannel> nztal: No, I don't believe they're identical.  Similar though, I imagine.
[18:54] <darlykaiser> some one can help me with the crash of ubuntu 9.04 and firefox?
[18:54] <viginbala> minimec: that's cool.. i've another major problem on gnome-ppp have any idea?
[18:54] <nztal> Flannel, actually dist-upgrade picked up some packages that safe-upgrade didn't get.  so, thanks for telling me that.
[18:54] <Daremo> geld,  still fairly new to this, how do i do it purely from terminal mode, nautilus wont even run
[18:54] <minimec> !compile | viginbala
[18:54] <viginbala> darlyaiser: restart ur pc and try recovery mode
[18:55] <nocturn00> Anyone know how to set the channel/room topic with Empathy?
[18:55] <mobi-sheep> nztal: You use safe-upgrade?
[18:55] <minimec> viginbala: Can't even remeber when I used gnome-ppp the last time. Cannot help you.
[18:55] <viginbala> ubottu: thanks
[18:55] <mobi-sheep> nztal: You might want to try full-upgrade.
[18:55] <Flannel> nocturn00: I'd try /topic
[18:55] <geld> Daremo, you can use the commands "cd" and "ls" to navigate and list directory contents respectively
[18:55] <viginbala> ubottu: do u know how to gnome-ppp problems?
[18:56] <geld> Daremo, you will need to navigate to where that libcrypto.so.0.9.8 file is located
[18:56] <myself> can someone please help me install firefox 3.5 for ubuntu
[18:56] <mobi-sheep> !ff35 | myself
[18:56] <geld> you might try "whereis libcrypto.so.0.9.8" and see if the shell can find it for you
[18:56] <myself> haha
[18:56] <viginbala> myself: is that deb packages?
[18:56] <myself> no it is shiretoko or whatever the heck that is is guess
[18:57] <Flannel> myself: Yes, that's firefox 3.5
[18:57] <viginbala> ubottu: i need to resolve gnome-ppp problem will u?
[18:57] <dwarder_1> when i plug in my headphon to my notebook i still hear sound from notebook speakers, is there any way i can switch them off?
[18:57] <geld> Anyone here get the ok message box, "+casper/vmlinuz" when selecting an installation option for Ubuntu 9.04? Hitting return simply closes the message box and nothing happens.
[18:57] <minimec> myself: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 in a terminal
[18:58] <nocturn00> Flannel, that doesn't seem to work in Empathy, neither for IRC nor jabber
[18:58] <myself> yeah i got it
[18:58] <myself> so do i uninstall the older 3.0.12 version?
[18:58] <catharcyst> check volume properties  dwarder_1
[18:58] <dwarder_1> minimec: i thought you talk to yourself ;)
[18:58] <snarkster> can anyone help me get my microphone to work?
[18:58] <Flannel> myself: You don't want to, that'll cause problems with the rest of Ubuntu (that uses firefox for stuff)
[18:58] <Daremo> geld,  ok im there
[18:58] <snarkster> team speak doesnt work so well without a mic
[18:58] <viginbala> gnome-ppp can't detect modem port /dev/ttyUSB0 any idea to resolve?
[18:59] <minimec> !ppp | viginbala
[18:59] <Plimsol> hehe snarkster
[18:59] <myself> Flannel
[18:59] <mobi-sheep> myself: You can use two browsers.  I like having it because I open too many tabs all times.  50 tabs on Firefox + 50 tabs on Shiro. :)
[18:59] <myself> but why do i have to keep the old version if i have the new one installed
[18:59] <viginbala> minimec: yeah ppp
[18:59] <dwarder_1> how can i switch off notebook speakers?
[18:59] <dwarder_1> when i plug in my headphones
[18:59] <n00b81> Hello all. Two years ago, I installed Ubuntu using the Wubi installer, which gave me 13 gigabytes of space. Today I made the mistake of trying to compile pspsdk with less than 500 mb of space. Now, I can't copy/save files because the system monitor says I have 533 mb free, but 0 available. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
[18:59] <myself> i can open as many windows for shiro as i want
[19:00] <geld> Daremo:  first copy the file so you have a backup then (use cp) then rename the file to what it was using the mv command
[19:00] <seeds> switch them off in volume properties
[19:00] <minimec> viginbala: You can talk to the bot by typing /msg ubottu keyword (keyword like firefox). Ubottu will send you a private message with the results ;)
[19:01] <Daremo> geld,  it doesnt say .bak at the end of the file...
[19:01] <volk> Emacs or Vim ? hmm
[19:01] <Daremo> geld, shouldnt it? or do names get cut off in terminal?
[19:01] <snarkster> VIM FTW
[19:01] <Flannel> n00b81: Well, your best bet is to clear up some space, apt-get clean will do that (apt-get autoclean will remove less), remove old kernels, etc.