[00:00] <Guest94830> so does this mean that the entire 100G is used up already?
[00:00] <Guest94830> or is it still only using the 4G i partitioned for the os?
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Guest94830: can you give an output of:  sudo fdisk -l; mount; lsb_release -a      please use http://pastie.org (or similar) to host
[00:01] <Guest94830> okay, 1 second
[00:04] <helpme5> is there a program for ubuntu that stores docuements? or notes but with search function ?
[00:05] <helpme5> in a single digital format
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> helpme5: dash does that
[00:05] <Guest94830> http://pastie.org/4386657
[00:07] <hydrox24> romy_420: sorry, I was having breakfast...
[00:07] <hydrox24> romy_420: have you tried with JUST the new card yet?
[00:07] <romy_420> np
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> Guest94830: ok and the output of:  df -h      Thanks
[00:08] <romy_420> hydrox24, i wouldnt like that, because everytime i change the dualhead configuration the ati driver wants a reboot and it took quite long to get it going
[00:09] <romy_420> including intermittent boot failures
[00:09] <_Tristan> Hello. I'm using encfs to encrypt my ~/Private folder, which contains a number of important things (.config, .local, etc) which are symlinked in ~. The issue is that it doesn't automatically mount when I log in.
[00:09] <_Tristan> How can I make an encfs thingy automount?
[00:09] <romy_420> hydrox24, google wasnt too fruitful too, only someone who had a similar issue with an older kernel and said it was due ti bios and power mgmt issues (acpi)
[00:10] <Auditor> _Tristan how do you mount it
[00:10] <hydrox24> similar to your computer (check for BIOS updates maybe?)
[00:10] <hydrox24> ?
[00:10] <_Tristan> Auditor: encfs ~/.private ~/Private, then type the passphrase when prompted
[00:10] <romy_420> hydrox24, i'm also not sure if a too weak psu could lead to this, mine is only 425w
[00:11] <Auditor> _Tristan you can enter that command into the session start up list
[00:11] <Guest94830> http://pastie.org/4386684
[00:12] <_Tristan> Auditor: I could, but I'd have to type my password twice when logging in
[00:13] <Auditor> _tristan check if there is a way to pass the password to the program through the command
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Guest94830: looks like you set the partitions backward at install
[00:13] <Auditor> _tristan check the man for the program and see
[00:13] <Sazpaimon_> am I right to assume you cannot extend your root partition on-line even if it's ext4?
[00:13] <Guest94830> lol
[00:13] <Guest94830> so a reinstall is needed?
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest94830: that, or make a folder in your system partition, chown it to your user then symlink it to your home folder so that data saved to the link is saved on the larger partition
[00:15] <Guest94830> thank you
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest94830: i'd reinstall and set the partitions the right way around :)
[00:16] <Guest94830> okay
[00:16] <Guest94830> have a nice day
[00:17] <bzzzz> .qui
[00:20] <romy_420> hydrox24, there is a newer bios but they only mention that it updates cpu micro code. not sure if it's worth the try to update, but after the logs just filled up all of my / hd ... gonny try with the new one alone. ty
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Sazpaimon_: you'll need to boot to the livecd to resize partitions
[00:23] <helpme5> action parsnip
[00:23] <helpme5> i want a digital docuement with serach function
[00:23] <helpme5> not a program that holds docuements
[00:24] <helpme5> like a personal note program
[00:24] <helpme5> notes
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> helpme5: tried tomboy?
[00:29] <brian__> when i try to log in i get an error
[00:30] <brian__> could not update ICEathority
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> brian__: boot to root recovery mode and run:   sudo chown foo:foo /home/foo/.ICEauthority
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> brian__: cage foo for your username
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> *change
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> brian__: you've been running:  sudo nautilus     haven't you
[00:32] <brian__> alright ill have to write that down,
[00:32] <Chamunks> is there a way to get Wake On Lan over wifi?
[00:32] <brian__> i beleve so
[00:32] <Chamunks> or at least out of stanby on lan lol
[00:32] <brian__> i can use the guest acount, but it wont let me login to my normal acount
[00:32] <Chamunks> I just need a yes or no for now im headed out the door.
[00:32] <escott> brian__, can't use the guest account for that
[00:32] <brian__> yeah no sudo i know
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> brian__: gksudo is to be used with gui apps, not sudo. It causes this issue
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> brian__: you need an account in the admin group
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> brian__: one that can also use sudo, basically
[00:34] <brian__> my mornal acount has all the permissions i need im just useing this account to get the support i need
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> brian__: then use root recovery mode and you won't need sudo
[00:35] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip, you're incredibly knowledgeable do you think wake on lan over wifi is possible? I've got an xbmc i want to run only from my android remote app
[00:35] <brian__> alright so recovory mode, then use  the command  "sudo chown foo:foo /home/foo/.ICEauthority"
[00:36] <Chamunks> i mainly need a yes no answer if its possible or not I'll look into it later i just want to know if you think its possible.
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: not something I've ever used, sorry
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> brian__: change the word foo in each case, for your username
[00:36] <Chamunks> fair thanks ActionParsnip
[00:36] <brian__> yeah i got it, well ill be back
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> brian__: remember to match case
[00:37] <escott> brian__, also check Xauthority
[00:37] <brian__> yup will do
[00:37] <brian__> how do i check that?
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> brian__: use TAB, makes life easier :)
[00:37] <brian__> use tab?
[00:37] <SIFTU>        /buffer 18
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> brian__: yes, the key above capslock...
[00:38] <brian__> i know but for what?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> brian__: it autocompletes filenames and folders after you type a few characters of the file or folder
[00:38] <brian__> ahh okay well ill brb ill let you know how this works out
[00:39] <helpme5> is there something similar to wine ?
[00:39] <helpme5> for windows software
[00:39] <helpme5> not for games
[00:45] <louiemat> how do you install drivers on ubuntu 12.04 64bit install, I have the driver in my home directory but don't know what to do next, help please
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> helpme5: cedega or crossoveroffice, neither are free in any way
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> louiemat: what is the driver for?
[00:47] <louiemat> for a epson prefection v30 scanner
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> louiemat: ok, what filename do you have?
[00:47] <helpme5> ok thanks
[00:48] <louiemat> what do you mean
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> louiemat: what is the filename you downloaded?
[00:49] <louiemat> esci-interpreter-gt-f720_0.0.12
[00:51] <louiemat> I also have iscan_2.22.ltd17.deb
[00:51] <brian__> no luck
[00:51] <brian__> it said that ICEauthority didnt exist
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> louiemat: ok then run:  cd ~/Downloads; sudo dpkg -i ./iscan_2.22.ltd17.deb
[00:53] <brian__> then from thhe root console i typed  lightdm and reloged in as guest
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> brian__: if you run:  ls -la /home/foo/.ICEauthority     is the file owned by you?
[00:56] <brian__> well it said it didnt exist
[00:56] <DracoDanLRPC> I have a need for kernel 3.5 (Fiber channel target) for a home server, it needs to be fairly stable as it acts as the shared storage for a pair of ESXi hosts.  Would I be better off running 12.04 with the 3.5-quantzel kernel (which I'm doing now and it seems stable) or upgrading to 12.10 alpha1 and using the same kernel?
[00:56] <brian__> so i cd to that dir, and didnt see it with ls
[00:57] <L3top> ls -la ~/.ICEauthority          brian__
[00:57] <brian__> can i run that from the guest acount?
[00:57] <L3top> no brian__... sorry.
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> brian__: do it in the root recovery console
[00:58] <L3top> brian__: foo in ActionParsnips example meant your user name
[00:58] <OerHeks> DracoDanLRPC, alfa3, yes i would try that, join #ubuntu+1 for support please
[00:58] <brian__> yeah i did that
[00:59] <Alan502> Hey, I'm trying set the language of a new ubuntu 10.04 fresh install to spanish but it doesn't have an internet connection. How can I do this?
[00:59] <DracoDanLRPC> OerHeks: thanks
[00:59] <ari__> morning
[01:00] <L3top> was all I was trying to convey... just ls -la /home/foo
[01:00] <L3top> brian__: ^
[01:00] <brian__> alright ill try that one and will be back
[01:01] <louiemat> ActionParsnip  I Options marked [*] produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[01:01] <louiemat> louiemat@louis-Ubuntu:~/Downloads$
[01:01] <nick789> hi
[01:02] <blackshirt> hi nick789
[01:02] <Alan502> Can someone help me install the spanish language on ubuntu 10.04
[01:03] <MonkeyDust> Alan502  have you asked in #ubuntu-es?
[01:03] <blackshirt> alan502, was that not installed by default?
[01:04] <Alan502> blackshirt: no! I forgot to
[01:05] <nick789> need suggestion for screen recording, similar to camtasia studio in windows
[01:05] <MonkeyDust> nick789  try kazam
[01:05] <nick789> MonkeyDust thanx, will give it a shot
[01:06] <blackshirt> recordmydesktop
[01:07] <PicCard> Hi Nick789
[01:07] <brian__> i get the same result,  "no such file or directory"
[01:08] <L3top> brian__: foo again, is your username.
[01:08] <brian__> yes sir
[01:08] <L3top> you HAVE to have a /home/userdirectory with a normal install
[01:09] <L3top> if you DELETED that... it is probably why whatever your original problem is, exists brian__
[01:09] <brian__> i dooo, i just dont have the ICEauthoriy
[01:09] <L3top> That would not produce "no such file or directory"
[01:09] <gopikrishnan> how to chat on empathy
[01:09] <brian__> i can try to explain how i set it up if it would help?
[01:09] <L3top> ls -la /home/<brian__'susername
[01:10] <L3top> >
[01:10] <L3top> eg.... in my pretend case... ls -la /home/l3top     would NOT produce ls -la /home/foo
[01:10] <L3top> gr
[01:10] <L3top> would NOT produce no such file or directory
[01:11] <brian__> L3top, i have windows xp on my pc, ok? it consists of 2 partitions that are bolth fat 32
[01:11] <romy_420> hydrox24, i removed the old card, reinstalled fglrx in recovery mode and now it seems fine
[01:12] <L3top> brian__: this is ubuntu support. Can you please restate your original issue?
[01:12] <brian__> L3top, the first one is a system...  the 2nt one is used for documents and music etc.
[01:12] <L3top> brian__: I butted in because I thoughtyou might have actually typed foo.
[01:13] <User_420> brian__, delete them both and install Linux
[01:13] <brian__> L3top, i installed ubuntu
[01:13] <User_420> =)
[01:13] <brian__> L3top, in a 3rd  ext4 partition
[01:13] <L3top> brian__: did you select the default "use the entire disk" option in the ubuntu installer?
[01:13] <User_420> brian__, you need at least 4 partitions
[01:13] <User_420> brian__, for ubuntu
[01:13] <L3top> Ok brian__... just summerize the entire issue you are having on ONE line.
[01:14] <PicCard> /msg nick789 y
[01:14] <J3f> fail xd
[01:14] <User_420> /fail
[01:15] <brian__> L3top, no because i wanted to mount my user partition at  /home/user  so my home dir would be shared in bolth osed
[01:15] <J3f> lawl xd
[01:15] <PicCard> /query
[01:15] <L3top> brian__: windows cannot see your linux partition.
[01:16] <L3top> brian__: are you trying to setup your /home/user partition in fat32?
[01:16] <brian__> L3top, i did
[01:16] <brian__> and it works
[01:17] <L3top> brian__: again... I am not trying to piece together a patchwork problem. Please restate your ISSUE on ONE line.
[01:17] <MonkeyDust> brian__  windows only recognizes windows, what you can do: create a FAT or NTFS partition on which you put the shared files
[01:18] <brian__> L3top, when loging on i get an error that says something like "cant update ICEauthority"
[01:18] <L3top> brian__: you put /home... not /home/user on a fat32 partition... yes?
[01:19] <Alan502> Can someone help me install the spanish language on ubuntu 10.04 offline?
[01:19] <brian__> its its own partition, when i setup ubuntu i had it setup to mount my user partition at /home/user
[01:19] <W4sp> brian__: L3top, is it an NTFS partition w/out rw flag mounted on /home or /home/brian__?
[01:20] <brian__> its fat32
[01:20] <CynepCupon> hello, anyone have any advise about ATI RADEON HD drivers??? fglrx. i'm getting 20fps in half life 2. any help please?
[01:20] <L3top> brian__: it has to be /home      not /home/user   and you must setup fstab to mount it.
[01:21] <CynepCupon> i also have no sound in half life 2
[01:21] <CynepCupon> running Ubuntu 12.04 precise
[01:21] <L3top> your user will exist within this directory... however linux will create /home and if you are trying to mount /home/user it will be screwed.
[01:21] <brian__> alright well with out being able to login, i have  winxp, then ubuntu guest and i got the recovory console, how do i change my fstab
[01:23] <escott> brian__, in recovery console you can use a text editor like nano "nano /etc/fstab"
[01:23] <L3top> brian__: I do not believe you are hearing me. If you have a /home in your linux install and you are trying to mount /home/user on another partition... this cannot work.
[01:23] <L3top> Correct me if I am wrong folks.
[01:23] <brian__> i dose work, i cd to it and it shows my files on my user partition
[01:24] <escott> brian__, reading back through your earlier messages you suggest that /home/user would be on a non-unix partition type. thats a bad idea. its fine to have subdirectories of /home/user on fat or ntfs but you should not have /home/user
[01:24] <morfeu> olá
[01:24] <morfeu> algum brasileiro?
[01:24] <L3top> !br
[01:24] <brian__> it shows my user partition at /home/user
[01:24] <L3top> nm... afk.
[01:24] <morfeu> !br
[01:25] <CynepCupon> anyone know about gaming in ubuntu? is there an alternative to fglrx ATI propriatery drivers?
[01:26] <L3top> CynepCupon: the native radeon driver... what is wrong with fglrx that you do not wish to use it... if you are trying to game?
[01:27] <brian__> i just found a file called .ICEauthority-c in my home/user/ dir
[01:27] <Belial> CynepCupon, you're not going to get anywhere near the performance of the fglrx driver with the opensource driver in intensive games.
[01:27] <CynepCupon> L3top, HL2 is getting 20fps max
[01:28] <Belial> which card is it, CynepCupon ?
[01:28] <CynepCupon> i dunno if fglrx is using the dedicated video card
[01:28] <CynepCupon> AMD 3420, Radeon 6650M
[01:28] <CynepCupon> "dual graphics"
[01:28] <brian__> im just going to figure this one out on my own, thanks any way L3top
[01:28] <Belial> oh, so like nvidia's optimus?
[01:28] <CynepCupon> but it should just be the 1GB dedicated video
[01:29] <CynepCupon> it says i'm running VESA: SUDO
[01:29] <CynepCupon> SUMO***
[01:29] <Belial> i honestly don't know how amd handles switchable graphics or if they even work out of the box in linux.
[01:29] <Belial> but it does sound like it's using your integrated card.
[01:29] <Belial> because hl2 should be getting way higher fps than 20 with that card.
[01:29] <CynepCupon> yes, i think its using the integrated card
[01:30] <CynepCupon> ATI Catalyst says it can switch between them, i have it set for best performance, instead of best battery life.
[01:30] <Belial> hmm
[01:30] <CynepCupon> i only play one video game, Day of Defeat Source
[01:30] <Belial> does it specify switching in linux?
[01:30] <CynepCupon> and i abandoned MacOSX because it only got between 20-30 with integrated 256mb card
[01:30] <Belial> or just in general?
[01:31] <Belial> because if it doesn't specify that it switches in linux, it's probaby just a windows/osx thing.
[01:31] <CynepCupon> its catalyst for linux
[01:31] <Belial> ah, ok.
[01:31] <Belial> something is definitely wrong.
[01:31] <Belial> then again, you're running through wine.
[01:31] <Belial> so it could be something there too.
[01:31] <CynepCupon> can't find the forum i was on a few days ago.. someone said they switched to a different driver and got 140fps+ again
[01:31] <CynepCupon> yes, wine.
[01:31] <CynepCupon> is there something better than wine?
[01:32] <AaronMT> !hoary
[01:32] <Belial> maybe it was a different version of the catalyst driver?
[01:32] <AaronMT> Hi, where to get hoary
[01:32] <CynepCupon> does PlayOnLInux help wine work better?
[01:32] <Belial> honestly, i couldn't tell you. i've only used wine.
[01:32] <CynepCupon> should i try a previous version of catalyst?
[01:32] <Belial> but i get about the same performance as i do in windows with my geforce gt420m
[01:32] <CynepCupon> or a different distro?
[01:32] <Belial> overall performance that is. there's some glitches here and there.
[01:32] <CynepCupon> <--- Luninux 12
[01:32] <CynepCupon> Pinguy OS 12.04 good?
[01:33] <Belial> they're all based on ubuntu.
[01:33] <Belial> so really, i don't see it changing anything for you.
[01:33] <CynepCupon> openSUSE perhaps?
[01:33] <CynepCupon> or even Fedora 17?
[01:33] <SIFTU> CynepCupon: if "lspci|grep -i vga" shows 2 cards (and you are on a laptop) then you have to do some work
[01:33] <Belial> i honestly don't think the answer is to switch distributions.
[01:33] <SIFTU> it used to be something like vgaswitcharoo
[01:33] <CynepCupon> SIFTU, how do i check that?
[01:34] <CynepCupon> type that in terminal?
[01:34] <SIFTU> CynepCupon: yeah
[01:34] <Belial> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18)
[01:34] <Belial> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0df1 (rev ff)
[01:34] <Belial> that's what mine returns. bumblebee works great for turning the nvidia card on/off.
[01:35] <Belial> but i don't think it works for ati.
[01:35] <Belial> or amd now, rather.
[01:35] <CynepCupon> SIFTU: two VGA compatible devices are listed
[01:35] <SIFTU> Belial: yours is optimus, and you would use bumblebee
[01:35] <Belial> right
[01:35] <SIFTU> CynepCupon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[01:35] <CynepCupon> thank you :D
[01:36] <SIFTU> CynepCupon: I dont have amd/ati so I havent used it before
[01:36] <CynepCupon> 0:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 9647
[01:36] <CynepCupon> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Whistler [AMD Radeon HD 6600M Series]
[01:36] <CynepCupon> = hybrid graphics
[01:37] <CynepCupon> ?
[01:37] <L3top> CynepCupon: you are going to have problems. Y
[01:37] <andrewx> apt-get install firefox, says there's no flash included, what should I go to properly install flash, please?
[01:37] <CynepCupon> so i bought a laptop that won't work?
[01:37] <Belial> CynepCupon, check the link SIFTU posted. that's a good starting point. and it seems simple enough.
[01:37] <CynepCupon> will do, thank you.
[01:37] <L3top> CynepCupon: for ati hybrid you need vgaswitcheroo which will not use fglrx.
[01:38] <Belial> oh damn.
[01:38] <SIFTU> yeah I steer away from ati
[01:38] <L3top> CynepCupon: hybrid is the problem. that includes nvidia's optimus SIFTU
[01:38] <SIFTU> they havent supported Linux well period
[01:38] <L3top> at all. Period.
[01:38] <Belial> amd?
[01:39] <Belial> i think amd helps out more than nvidia does on its opensource driver.
[01:39] <SIFTU> L3top: yeah optimus isnt great, but it works with bumbebee, and cuda etc
[01:39] <L3top> 0 linux support. The only options are third party guys trying to make them usable.
[01:39] <L3top> depends on the chipset SIFTU.
[01:39] <L3top> again... not supported by nVidia.
[01:40] <Belial> optimus runs pretty good here. but since it's running virtualgl the performance is down about 10fps average, sometimes more over going native.
[01:40] <SIFTU> no not supported by Nvidia.. but better than ATI
[01:40] <Belial> but it beats using the integrated card.
[01:40] <L3top> At all. Period. "We have no plans to support optimus on linux" -nVidia
[01:40] <Belial> there's a redhat kernel dev that's working on a better solution.
[01:41] <Belial> from what i understand.
[01:41] <SIFTU> L3top: thats true, but the commutity made it work with the nvidia drivers
[01:41] <L3top> Belial: SIFTU... optimus works with bumblebee about 70% of the time. It is totally hit or miss.
[01:41] <SIFTU> L3top: personally I would intel all the way
[01:41] <L3top> SIFTU: long live opensource community.
[01:41] <L3top> SIFTU: 100% agree
[01:42] <pooltable> when i restart my computer my home folder open up and the termimal open up how to stop thanks ??
[01:42] <smokie> anyone know how to echo the system time to a text file using bash by any chance?
[01:42] <escott> smokie, date > file
[01:43] <saustin> so my sound keeps going from normal, to occassionally robotic, to ocassionally not working
[01:43] <smokie> escott, i want it in a middle of a sentence, to say something like this "bash file has been executed last at 18:04:03 04/08/2012" for example
[01:43] <saustin> and I have to get lucky when "resetting" it, I try pulseaudio --kill
[01:44] <saustin> for instance, any ideas on what I can do to get it back?
[01:44] <escott> smokie, echo blah blah blah `date` blah > file
[01:44] <smokie> thanks dude
[01:44] <escott> smokie, or echo -n blah blah blah > file; date >> file; echo blah >> file
[01:44] <smODesigns> im having OD issues with setting up SMTP with comcast
[01:46] <SIFTU> smokie: the easier to read/bash way is echo "blah blah $(date)" > file
[01:47] <smokie> escott, one last thing, how can i make the bash file keep the data it added before and doesnt overwrite the previous data if you get what i mean?
[01:47] <smokie> SIFTU, thanks man, i took that down and will test it too
[01:47] <escott> smokie, >>  appends
[01:47] <SIFTU> smokie: >> will append
[01:48] <SIFTU> smokie: from the #bash bot --> The backquote (`) is used in the old-style command substitution, e.g. foo=`command`. The foo=$(command) syntax is recommended
[01:48] <SIFTU> instead. Backslash handling inside $() is less surprising, and $() is easier to nest. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/082
[01:49] <smokie> ah thanks for the heads up
[01:49] <escott> SIFTU, you are going to have to pry my backticks from my cold dead hands
[01:51] <guybrushsantiago> need help running libreoffice command as www-data (within apache2)
[01:52] <escott> guybrushsantiago, what?? why would you need to do that?
[01:53] <guybrushsantiago> escott: I need to generate a pdf file from a dynamically generated docx file within a Django application (talk about tough requirements)
[01:54] <guybrushsantiago> escott: libreoffice --headles more_stuff seems to do the trick, but I can't run it from my python app since it doesn't seem to have permissions
[01:54] <escott> guybrushsantiago, im sure there are other more appropriate (ie command line) applications that can do docx->pdf conversion
[01:54] <guybrushsantiago> escott: libreoffice is the only one that I've found that does good quality conversions
[01:55] <guybrushsantiago> and I'm using it command line
[01:55] <escott> guybrushsantiago, the permissions really shouldn't matter. unless apparmor or selinux are involved any application can run any binary
[01:55] <AaronMT> !hoary
[01:55] <AaronMT> Hi, where to get hoary
[01:55] <SIFTU> escott: lol I know
[01:55] <owler> Hello, I am trying to update my system and get this error: http://pastebin.com/SGhWb2yP
[01:56] <trism> owler: apt-get dist-upgrade; the vlc packages added a new dependency
[01:56] <guybrushsantiago> escott: it works within my django dev server, but when I try to run it in a real deployment environment (aka in apache) it doesn't work
[01:56] <guybrushsantiago> escott: and there seems to be other people with the same problem
[01:56] <escott> AaronMT, you stopped your time machine too late. hop back in it and move back to 2005
[01:56] <AaronMT> ?
[01:57] <owler> trism, Ahh thanks
[01:57] <escott> AaronMT, 5.04 is no longer supported
[01:57] <AaronMT> It works
[01:59] <escott> guybrushsantiago, can you run other binaries from django?
[01:59] <guybrushsantiago> escott: yes, just not that one
[02:00] <guybrushsantiago> escott:  and it returns ugly exit codes like 19712
[02:00] <escott> guybrushsantiago, does it work if you unset DISPLAY?
[02:00] <escott> guybrushsantiago, in the development environment that is
[02:00] <guybrushsantiago> escott: how do I do that?
[02:01] <CynepCupon> SIFTU: whats the command for checking VGA devices again?
[02:01] <CynepCupon> nevermind
[02:01] <L3top> CynepCupon: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[02:01] <guybrushsantiago> escott: just to clarify, both django server and apache are on the same machine (apache is a replica from my actual deployment server)
[02:01] <escott> guybrushsantiago, i dont know enough about your development environment. im just saying the possibilities are (a) environment is wrong for libre (b) apache is configured not to let you run the application. thats really it
[02:02] <escott> guybrushsantiago, one would think that libreoffice --headless would work even if X variables like $XAUTHORITY and $DISPLAY are unset, but perhaps its buggy
[02:05] <viat0r> got an airlink 101 awll5088
[02:05] <viat0r> iproblem is it sees the ssid
[02:05] <viat0r> but wont connect
[02:06] <viat0r> any ideas
[02:21] <TomM2> My sound on my ubuntu 10.10 system I am thinking this might be the problem but how do I fix it? http://pastie.org/4387213
[02:22] <rdvonz> So I have a user named john that owns a folder called 'movies', I want bob to also have access to these movies. First I run chgrp -R videos movies, then I run chmod g+rwx movies so that anyone in the group has the right to read/write/execute. This isn't working. What am I doing wrong?
[02:23] <rdvonz> *anyone in the videos group
[02:26] <rdvonz> ok wait I think I did it right.
[02:26] <escott> rdvonz, chmod also needs to be recursive. you might want to setgid on the folder
[02:27] <rdvonz> setgid?
[02:27] <kikupotter> z
[02:27] <escott> rdvonz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid
[02:28] <Petit_Dejeuner> Hey, does anyone know hot to turn the bell ('\a') on in ubuntu 12?
[02:28] <SIFTU> rdvonz: also check your "id" command to make sure you are a member of that group
[02:28] <escott> Petit_Dejeuner, its usually in the terminal preferences
[02:29] <SIFTU> Petit_Dejeuner: or "sudo modprobe -r pcspkr"
[02:29] <psychogenik> noob here everytime i reboot ubuntu wont boot unless i use the live usb
[02:29] <Petit_Dejeuner> escott, as in Terminal>Edit>Profile_Preferences>turn on the bell? cuse I did that
[02:29] <Petit_Dejeuner> SIFTU, trying that now
[02:29] <psychogenik> and its installed on my system
[02:30] <TomM2> My sound on my ubuntu 10.10 system I am thinking this might be the problem but how do I fix it? http://pastie.org/4387213
[02:30] <Petit_Dejeuner> SIFTU, no luck
[02:31] <Petit_Dejeuner> I've already removed it from the blacklist. I've checked alsamixer, nothing seams to work.
[02:31] <escott> Petit_Dejeuner, there might be a pulseaudio module for pc speaker emulation
[02:31] <Petit_Dejeuner> I know I have one.
[02:32] <Petit_Dejeuner> escott, will the bell still go off when I hit the \a character?
[02:32] <escott> Petit_Dejeuner, gnome-terminal can do visual bell, so im sure it knows how to talk to pulse and do an emulated bell
[02:33] <psychogenik> anyone know how to boot ubuntu on my system without the live usb?
[02:34] <Petit_Dejeuner> escott, should I restart?
[02:35] <escott> Petit_Dejeuner, i wouldnt think so. if you modprobed pcspkr then maybe jump to tty1 and try echo -e '\a'
[02:35] <Petit_Dejeuner> escott, it says it already has the newest version of the module
[02:35] <SIFTU> Petit_Dejeuner: weird, so "lsmod|grep pcs" doesnt show that module?
[02:35] <Petit_Dejeuner> it doesn't do anything
[02:35] <Petit_Dejeuner> not even with su
[02:36] <kikupotter> hello
[02:37] <johnnyonflame> Is there any way I can give an ad hoc device an IP in my local network?
[02:37] <johnnyonflame> It is connected into my desktop, which is connected by cable to the network
[02:37] <escott> !ics | johnnyonflame
[02:38] <Petit_Dejeuner> So I guess my bell is FUBAR?
[02:39] <roaet_> Using the terminal only, what is the best (read: easiest for a noob) way to connect to a VPN and hold that connection?
[02:40] <SIFTU> Petit_Dejeuner: maybe i mis understood you .. did you want it to work or not work?
[02:40] <Petit_Dejeuner> SIFTU, I want it to work.
[02:40] <SIFTU> Petit_Dejeuner: ahh.. ok well I got you to remove the pcskpr module.. you need that up "sudo modprobe pcspkr"
[02:42] <Petit_Dejeuner> SIFTU, Here's the results, http://pastie.org/4387309, the bell still doesn't work. :/
[02:42] <escott> roaet_, if you set up the connection in the gui you can enable it with nmcli
[02:43] <roaet_> escott: I don't have a gui :(
[02:44] <psychogenik> halp
[02:44] <roaet_> escott: connecting to a VPN without a gui has been a headache. I'm just hoping there is a console solution that isn't ridiculous.
[02:47] <Petit_Dejeuner> SIFTU, I might just install Fedora
[02:47] <Petit_Dejeuner> thanks anyway
[02:51] <YanGM> estou no live do elementary agora
[02:51] <YanGM> oops wrong channel
[02:54] <bonhoeffer> i just booted from a live cd and connected a usb drive, but i can't touch a file on it (say's it is read only)
[02:55] <bonhoeffer> are there any options? i think the usb disk is FAT
[02:56] <Auditor> bonhoeffer hi
[02:56] <bonhoeffer> hi
[02:56] <Auditor> bonhoeffer , try this
[02:56] <Auditor> open terminal
[02:56] <Auditor> and type
[02:57] <Auditor> oops
[02:57] <bonhoeffer> it is fat32 . . . label is efi
[02:57] <Auditor> have you booted from it
[02:57] <bonhoeffer> no -- i booted from a usb
[02:57] <bonhoeffer> i want to image my drive
[02:57] <bonhoeffer> via dd
[02:57] <Auditor> which drive
[02:57] <bonhoeffer> to the external hard drive (usb)
[02:57] <bonhoeffer> i lost a bunch of data -- and want a block level image
[02:58] <bonhoeffer> so i booted my mac from usb
[02:58] <__brian> hey L3top?
[02:58] <bonhoeffer> oh, wait there are two partitions -- 210 mb fat and 1000 GB HFS+
[02:58] <Auditor> Ok, you have a USB, EXTERNAL  and the HARD  disk tell me exactly which contain ubuntu, and what runs
[02:59] <kaushal> Hi
[02:59] <Auditor> bonhoeffer, ?
[02:59] <Auditor> hai kaushal
[02:59] <bonhoeffer> Auditor, usb small drive has ubuntu -- running live version, computer has ata drive (250 GB), and usb drive 1 TB is connected
[02:59] <bonhoeffer> i want to image 250GB ATA drive onto 1TB usb drive via dd
[02:59] <kaushal> Auditor: hi
[02:59] <bonhoeffer> but 1TB (/media/Martin) is read only
[03:00] <Auditor> ok
[03:00] <kaushal> when i put down the laptop running ubuntu 11.10, does it hibernate or suspend by default?
[03:00] <bonhoeffer> so drive A is 4GB usb drive with ubuntu, drive B is system ATA drive with OSX, and drive C is 1TB HFS+ drive
[03:00] <kaushal> meaning put the lid down
[03:00] <bonhoeffer> I want to image B and save it on C
[03:00] <Auditor> in terminal try ,  sudo chmod 777 -R /media/<name of 1Tb>
 ^
[03:01] <bonhoeffer> ok -- seems safe enough
[03:01] <jafer> Guys
[03:01] <jafer> I need help
[03:01] <bonhoeffer> hmm. . . owner is 99
[03:01] <bonhoeffer> for /media/Martin
[03:01] <jafer> I followed the tutorial at http://www.googlehammer.com
[03:01] <jafer> and it isn't working
 Right click the battery icon on top of the screen and take power settings and adjust it there
[03:01] <jafer> I'm running Lubuntu 12.04
[03:01] <jafer> Would appreciate if someone could help :)
 ? what
 tell me
[03:02] <bonhoeffer> how do i find the space on /media/Martin -- i thought du did that
[03:03] <jafer> Auditor
[03:03] <kaushal> Auditor: thanks
[03:03] <jafer> @Auditor:  I followed the tutorial at http://www.googlehammer.com
[03:03] <kaushal> Auditor: which option is better?
[03:03] <jafer> There's only one tutorial
[03:03] <kaushal> suspend or hibernate?
 run  ls -l -a -h   to see size of files and folders in current dir
 when on batry, suspend, when on power DO NOTHING
[03:04] <bonhoeffer> Auditor: even after i did the chmod to 777, i still can't touch test.txt
[03:04] <bonhoeffer> in /media/Martin
[03:04] <kaushal> Auditor: ok
 tell me what its about
[03:05] <kaushal> Auditor: is suspend better than hibernate?
[03:05] <Auditor> ^ yep
[03:05] <jafer> It's not "better"
[03:05] <jafer> Unless by better you mean faster and more compact
[03:05] <kaushal> i know suspend is to RAM and hibernate to DISK
 yes, hibernate only when power very low
[03:06] <kaushal> jafer: am i understanding it correctly?
[03:06] <kaushal> suspend is to ram and hibernate to disk
[03:06] <jafer> Yeah Kaushal
 does it have any data in it 1TB
 please tell me what you are trying to do and what the issue is
[03:07] <kaushal> jafer: so choose suspend?
[03:07] <jafer> Auditor, I solved the problem
[03:07] <jafer> Kaushal, I prefer suspend
[03:07] <Auditor> :)
[03:07] <Auditor> k
[03:07] <jafer> But for longer amounts of times, i use hibernate
[03:07] <kaushal> Auditor: choose suspend or hibernate?
[03:07] <Auditor> Suspend when on batry
[03:07] <Auditor> Do nothing when on AC
[03:08] <Auditor> Hibernate when bat low
[03:08] <bonhoeffer> Auditor -- i think the issue is that this is an HFS+ partition
 if you dont have any data in it, format it
[03:10] <kaushal> so if battery is drained completely, data is intact in suspend or hibernate?
[03:10] <Auditor> Hibernate
[03:10] <Auditor> suspend will still use power, hibernate wont
[03:11] <kaushal> Auditor: ok
[03:13] <kaushal> Auditor: Thanks a lot
[03:13] <kaushal> Auditor: i prefer hibernate over suspend
[03:13] <kaushal> since my data is intact
[03:14] <kaushal> i know hibernate is slow compared to suspend
[03:14] <zykotick9> pm-hibernate ftw, it's an uptime cheat as well - my netbook at 70 days is my only 100% uptime machine ;)
[03:14] <kaushal> since its on DISK and suspend is fast since it is on RAM
[03:14] <kaushal> Auditor: am i understanding it correctly?
[03:14] <Auditor> Hibernate only when bat is too low to go on
[03:15] <Auditor> Suspen when lid closes
[03:15] <kaushal> Auditor: but suspend will use battery power?
[03:15] <Auditor> if u suspend when bat low it will turn off after some time an dyou will loose all data
[03:16] <Auditor> yes as long as you hav bat power when you close lid its fine
[03:16] <kaushal> Auditor: yes
[03:16] <kaushal> Auditor: ok
[03:16] <kaushal> How long does the battery power stays in suspend mode?
[03:16] <kaushal> is there a way to measure?
[03:17] <Auditor> It will stay about 60% longer
[03:17] <Auditor> than the remaining time
[03:17] <Auditor> APROX*
[03:17] <bonhoeffer> anyone know how to install hfsprogs on latest ubuntu
[03:17] <bonhoeffer> sudo apt-get install hfsprogs won't find it
[03:18] <kaushal> Auditor: ok
[03:18] <Auditor> 1hour backup can take you to some 1hr50min
[03:18] <bonhoeffer> 12.04
 yep hfsprogs
[03:20] <zykotick9> !info hfsprogs | bonhoeffer
[03:21] <Auditor> sudo apt-get install hfsprogs
[03:23] <bonhoeffer> zykotick9: do i need to add a special source
[03:23] <bonhoeffer> it is unable to locate the package (off of live cd)
[03:23] <guest-B6grnG> I cant get my speakers to work with ubuntu :(
[03:23] <zykotick9> bonhoeffer: no.  it's in default repo.  something is wrong if you can't install it using regular means.
[03:23] <bonhoeffer> ah . . .
 means, what are you using, laptop, desktop, external ointernal
  make sure you dont have any previous failed installs use apt-get -f install
[03:26] <bonhoeffer> how do i see if that is installed
[03:27] <coon> hello
[03:27] <Auditor> hai coon
[03:27] <coon> thought i was the only one here nothing being typed
 check the software centre, or just check if the respective commands work
 thats coz u just came in
 1467 users here
[03:28] <coon> can you help me with a little thing having trouble with
[03:29] <zykotick9> Auditor: well... logged in... here, probably not really that many ;) </OT>
[03:29] <coon> somewhat of a minor problem
[03:29] <Auditor> :)
[03:29] <zykotick9> coon: describe your issues in 1 line please.
[03:30] <coon> just bought a cannon printer and wont work on ubuntu
[03:30] <zykotick9> !details | coon which model of canon printer?
 you will have to install the driver
[03:30] <IdleOne> coon: return it and get a HP printer is the best advice I can give you.
[03:30] <TomM2> My sound on my ubuntu 10.10 system I am thinking this might be the problem but how do I fix it? http://pastie.org/4387213
[03:31] <TomM2> I have asked the same question 3 times.
[03:31] <IdleOne> coon: Canon printers rarely work on linux.
[03:31] <TomM2> Why am I being ignored?
 you have to upgrade your pulse audio driver,
[03:31] <coon> that is what i have noticed
[03:31] <TomM2> Auditor, I didn't say that?
[03:31] <coon> there is no drivers
[03:31] <TomM2> o.o
[03:31]  * TomM2 scared
[03:32] <zykotick9> !10.10 | TomM2
[03:32] <coon> propietary drivers
 yes buddy tell me
[03:32] <TomM2> Thanks.
[03:32] <coon> none
[03:32] <IdleOne> coon: Seriously, save yourself the time and headache.
 yep its a bit of headache but you can get it working
[03:32] <coon> that would be killer
[03:32] <Auditor> just connect it and then check the restricted drivers in system> administration
[03:33] <coon> tried that
[03:33] <coon> no luck
[03:33] <TomM2> So 10.10 = borked?
[03:34] <zykotick9> TomM2: basically.  upgrade to something supported.  see "/msg ubottu eol" for details how (i've never had to)
[03:34] <IdleOne> coon: I stopped buying Canon printers 6 years ago. Canon does not provide any support for linux.
[03:34] <TomM2> 11.04?
[03:34] <coon> im starting to find that out lol
[03:34] <TomM2> I tried to get to 12.04 but it broken.
[03:34] <coon> tried alot and figured i would try here
[03:34] <TomM2> Like it got stuck on some text on bootup.
[03:35] <coon> it is a good printer and luckily im dual booted
 its still under extream testing
[03:35] <TomM2> What is?
[03:35] <TomM2> 12.04?
[03:35] <coon> got windows (@#$$) on other hd so just a headache switching over
[03:35] <Auditor> yep
[03:35] <IdleOne> Auditor: If you don't know what you are talking about, please don't spread FUD
[03:35] <TomM2> When are we expecting 12.10?
[03:35] <coon> what about setting up a vm
[03:36] <IdleOne> !virtualbox | coon
 what ?
[03:36] <coon> would i be able to use the printer doing that?
[03:36] <IdleOne> Auditor: 12.04 is stable and not "under extreme testing"
[03:37] <TomM2> I'm just going to put this out here, Will 20.04 use unity or some even more stupid gui.
[03:37] <TomM2> <3 Ubuntu Classic
[03:37] <coon> im still running 10.10
[03:37] <TomM2> coon, I am running it atm.
[03:38] <TomM2> But it seems it's dead now.
[03:38] <TomM2> R.I.P 10.10
 its is not stable enough to be compared to 10.04. There are multiple system errors happening continuously
[03:38] <TomM2> I tried Linux Mint today.
[03:38] <TomM2> And.
 the official go is stable i know, but it has to mature a lot again
[03:38] <Costeelation> ?
[03:38] <anonbit> Anybody on here capable of lending a hand with configuring a torrent client to work through vpn?
[03:38] <TomM2> It was the stupidest distro I ever tried.
[03:39] <Costeelation> maybe
[03:39] <TomM2> ubuntu4ever...
[03:39] <TomM2> Ubuntu = meth for me.
[03:40] <anonbit> I was using transmission on 11 and after running updates all trackers were reporting a time out connection error.
[03:40] <TomM2> That meant I'm addicted to Ubuntu to all of the people that want to know.
[03:40] <anonbit> Tried release 12 and tried changing to Deluge, same problem.
[03:40] <TomM2> anonbit, Use private proxy?
[03:46] <bonhoeffer> what can i format on a mac that will be usable by ubuntu
[03:46] <bonhoeffer> fat 32 can't store the file size -- hfs doesn't give me write permissions
[03:46] <bonhoeffer> i have to work with a live cd, that is all i have to boot the drive
[03:48] <Dayofswords> bonhoeffer: doesn't mac have at least ext3 support?
[03:48] <bonhoeffer> yes, but i can't use their disk utility for anything but hfs+ and fat
[03:48] <bonhoeffer> (as far as i can tell)
[03:49] <bharath> I have downloaded wubi.exe and ubuntu-11.10.tar.gz , and now how can I install ubuntu no with this files
[03:49] <bharath> I have downloaded wubi.exe and ubuntu-11.10.tar.gz , and now how can I install ubuntu with this files?
[03:50] <bonhoeffer> i can't format in ubuntu
[03:50] <bonhoeffer> it says the disk is busy
[03:50] <bonhoeffer> but no applications have the disk open
[03:51] <princej88> hey guys, anyone know of a good usenet client to run on ubuntu server?
[03:51] <Dayofswords> bharath: ubuntu-11.10.tar.gz? normally you download the ISO, extract or burn to CD and use wubi.exe from in there
[03:52] <bharath> Dayofswords: I mean ubuntu-11.10-wubi-i386.tar.xz
[03:52] <darkevil011> Hi
[03:52] <zykotick9> !info nn | princej88 if you're use terminal you could try this.  i haven't used usenet in years, and have never used nn - but it sounds promising ;)
[03:53] <darkevil011> Need some help with my pptp server, it connects fine, but after the first user disconnects, it won't reconnect until you reboot…. anywhere I can look for answers? Nothing in logs
[03:53] <Dayofswords> bharath: still wierd way to do it.
[03:53] <princej88> Thanks for the help.
[03:53] <princej88> will try it out
[03:57] <naboo> !xdm
[04:04] <darkevil011> Need some help with my pptp server, it connects fine, but after the first user disconnects, it won't reconnect until you reboot…. anywhere I can look for answers? Nothing in logs
[04:07] <crisconect> hello can someone help me find a channel in Portuguese Brazil
[04:07] <cloudgeek> how we can access the sort cuts above the tray of on the right topmost part of the desktop
[04:08] <Sazpaimon_> crisconect, #ubuntu-br
[04:08] <cloudgeek> like if wanna to connect any network or want ehnace the sound
[04:08] <cloudgeek> or wanna to read any chat msg
[04:09] <bharath> Dayofswords: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1866072
[04:10] <crisconect> obrigado
[04:10] <cloudgeek> can anybody would like tell me any app for grmmaer correction there
[04:10] <cloudgeek> any one command line or Gui based
[04:11] <Dayofswords> bharath: so you figured it out then?
[04:12] <bharath> Dayofswords: yeah I searched now about how to use ubuntu-11.10-wubi.tar.xz
[04:12] <Dacvak> Hi guys
[04:13] <Dacvak> I come to you as a desperate attempt. I don't even have an Ubuntu problem, but a Windows problem. Sadly, no one has been able to help.
[04:13] <Dacvak> Does anyone think they might be able to offer me assistance?
[04:14] <vvpalin> what kind of problem?
[04:14] <Random832> Dacvak: well, regardless, no-one can help if you don't say what your problem _is_
[04:14] <Random832> !ask
[04:15] <Dacvak> I've got some 3rd party Xbox 360 controllers - Madcatz fight pad, Hori Real Arcade Pro EX - these are all listed as plug-and-play devices for Windows 7 64 (Ultimate), which I'm running.
[04:15] <Dacvak> However, they do not automatically install the drivers.
[04:15] <Dacvak> They do on every other Windows 7 computer I've tested, but not on the one I've got right now.
[04:15] <Random832> Dacvak: can you install it manually? what if you plug in a real 360 controller first?
[04:16] <cloudgeek> can anybody help me how to improve communication and english writing skills , i often have a bad over both of these
[04:16] <Dacvak> Real Xbox 360 controllers work fine - they use a different driver.
[04:16] <Dacvak> I'd just use my real 360 controller, but sadly I have leukemia, and after 4 rounds of chemo, I no longer have strong fingernails. They bleed with a normal controller. That means I need something like a fight stick in order to play games without putting stress on my thumbs.
[04:24] <BUSTACAP> Is there a reason why "nc -v -l -p 1337" no longer will work?
[04:24] <coon> later all and thanks for the help
[04:24] <Sinusoidal> Im getting a notification telling me something went wrong and to run PACKAGE MANAGER from the right click menu, Im not sure what its talking about. Can someone help?
[04:24] <Sinusoidal> Is package manager ubuntu software center?
[04:25] <BUSTACAP> Sinusoidal, yes
[04:25] <BUSTACAP> Sinusoidal, I think.
[04:25] <vvpalin> BUSTACAP, nc -lp 9999 works fine
[04:25] <Sinusoidal> is that just a GUI for apt?
[04:26] <BUSTACAP> vvpalin, Not for me.
[04:26] <zasdman> Anyone willing to help me get Ubuntu installed... I have tried every version of Linux I could and nothing wants to install on my computer.... live cd's will not even run :(
[04:27] <BUSTACAP> This is nc from the netcat-openbsd package. An alternative nc is available
[04:27] <BUSTACAP> in the netcat-traditional package.
[04:27] <vvpalin> BUSTACAP, your netpussy is defective then, try another
[04:28] <BUSTACAP> vvpalin, How so?
[04:29] <vvpalin> i dunno but it works fine for me, and its the same on every version ive ever tried so ....
[04:32] <maicod> hi if I check with fdisk that my last partition ends at block 29744. With dd what blocksize and count do I need to backup the sdcard up to that point ?
[04:33] <zasdman> Any help...? Can't get Ubuntu to install on ASRock Fatal1ty 990fx Pro, AMD FX 8150, 16gb ram, 2x 128 SSD in raid 0....
[04:38] <sn131678> what was that
[04:40] <j_ayen_green> I have a 'php' file in /etc/apt/preferences.d (on 10.04) with everything pinned to Karmic, because I was running 5.2.  I want to upgrade to 5.3.  Can I just add an extension to the file name, or do I need to remove it? I'm assuming if it's not found, an apt-get update will replace 5.2 with 5.3
[04:51] <emman> hi anyone can lend a hand with conky
[04:53] <emman> anyone good with conky?
[05:00] <emile_> hi all, I'm getting the same issue that exists in this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1464642
[05:01] <emile_> unfortunately, it's on lubuntu so I do not know if anyone can help out - I have also asked on #lubuntu, but I think people may be asleep
[05:01] <emile_> scratch that, someone seems to be awake
[05:03] <goddard> i just stumbled onto a great email client Sylpheed..has anyone else tried it?
[05:31] <grooves> Hi folks
[05:31] <goddard> its dead in here
[05:31] <goddard> anyone know how I can start chromium on the command line
[05:32] <grooves> how to disabled the hotkey alt + rmb on ubuntu 12.04? alt + rmb = move window
[05:32] <ito> goodard: chromium-browser
[05:32] <ito> goddard: chromium-browser
[05:33] <goddard> actually how do i launch the default browser from the command line
[05:34] <grooves> how to disabled the hotkey alt + rmb on ubuntu 12.04? alt + rmb = move window
[05:34] <CandyRaver> does anyone know where to find the #anonymous channel?
[05:34] <theadmin> Um, I have a problem with the "icedtea-6-plugin" package.  I wonder...
[05:50] <theadmin> Sinusoidal: Run "pgrep Steam", I want to see if the process is still hanging :/
[05:51] <Sinusoidal> pgprep doesnt exist
[05:51] <theadmin> Sinusoidal: You have an extra p :/
[05:52] <Sinusoidal> im pretty sure the process is gone
[05:52] <Sinusoidal> oh ok there we go
[05:52] <Sinusoidal> 16154
[05:52] <Sinusoidal> thats the output
[05:52] <theadmin> Sinusoidal: Cool, so it's still hanging, do a "kill -SEGV 16154"
[05:53] <Sinusoidal> YES
[05:53] <Sinusoidal> thank you!
[05:53] <Sinusoidal> if you dont mind me asking, what does pgrep do
[05:53] <theadmin> Sinusoidal: Search for a process ID by name (or part of name)
[05:54] <Sinusoidal> good to know! thanks again
[05:59] <cors> i get jagged/blocky performance running videos in my tile-based WM, but in GNOME3 the videos are smooth. is there some daemon that i'm not running that GNOME3 runs automatically?
[06:01] <theadmin> cors: GNOME does not run any "daemons", no. Though that doesn't help.
[06:04] <AZkenny> I need help creating a virtual floppy drive in Ubuntu 10.04.
[06:05] <cors> theadmin: any idea why it's better in GNOME?
[06:06] <theadmin> cors: Nope
[06:08] <cors> theadmin: is there any services that are necessary to run for opengl/3d acceleration?
[06:08] <theadmin> cors: Uh, no. Only your video driver, but that's a module.
[06:08] <iToast> Hey I need help with backing up my ubuntu box (its running server 10.4)
[06:08] <iToast> Anyone got a suggestion OTHER then rsync...?
[06:09] <iToast> I'm yet to find any solution that will letme do a full incremental backup, that includes EVERYTHING, like a bootloader...
[06:09] <cors> ah ok, well it's running the same module so it's really quite strange.
[06:09] <iToast> >_<
[06:12] <Maiz_en_Heces> is it okay to talk about diarrhea in here?
[06:12] <Maiz_en_Heces> if it relates to open source ubuntu applications
[06:12] <Maiz_en_Heces> for diarrhea analysis?
[06:12] <theadmin> Maiz_en_Heces: If the app is in the Ubuntu repos, and you need support for that app, I guess yes.
[06:13] <chenhangwei> nick "Budd"
[06:13] <Maiz_en_Heces> theadmin  how do I get diarrhea splash connoisseur into the repository?
[06:13] <Maiz_en_Heces> it is a program that analyzes a pic of the diarrhea
[06:13] <Maiz_en_Heces> and suggests recipes
[06:13] <Maiz_en_Heces> and sexual acts
[06:14] <theadmin> Maiz_en_Heces: Uh, if it's not currently in the official repositories we can't support it. You just said it's not, from what I understand.
[06:14] <Maiz_en_Heces> no... I am the devolper
[06:14] <mi3> hello guys I use rp-pppoe package to connect to the internet, when I start my internet connection, my conky window shows multiple gateways instead of only 1 gateway, I had made /etc/resolv.conf read only, and for connecting to the internet, my ISP requires me to use username, servicename, and password, any clues as to why I might be getting multiple gateways ? and 1 more thing, after a few minutes, the gateway becomes <IP_ADDRESS> and the internet connection dis
[06:14] <mi3> connects.
[06:14] <Maiz_en_Heces> and I want to add it to the repository
[06:14] <Maiz_en_Heces> the app works like this
[06:14] <Maiz_en_Heces> you take a plastic sheet
[06:14] <Maiz_en_Heces> and you spray your diarrhea all over it
[06:14] <Maiz_en_Heces> then you take a pic
[06:14] <Maiz_en_Heces> and then you load it into the program
[06:14] <theadmin> Maiz_en_Heces: Well, we don't care how the app works
[06:15] <Maiz_en_Heces> it then generates ideas on how you can prepare it for human consumption
[06:15] <Maiz_en_Heces> so how do I add it to the repo?
[06:15] <Maiz_en_Heces> or how are apps added to the repo?
[06:16] <theadmin> Maiz_en_Heces: Development questions are for #ubuntu-devel, but generally you can create your own repo (a ppa) at Launchpad
[06:16] <Maiz_en_Heces> now I swear that I am not a pervert or a racist
[06:16] <Maiz_en_Heces> this is an honest question
[06:16] <chenhangwei> ok
[06:16] <Maiz_en_Heces> I mean I would never suggest that this would be cannibalism from melting niggers or anything like that
[06:16] <Maiz_en_Heces> ah okay
[06:16] <Maiz_en_Heces> I will take this diarrheal ap question into #ubuntu-devel
[06:16] <Maiz_en_Heces> thanks
[06:19] <theadmin> mi3: You can (and probably should) use either NetworkManager or the "pppoeconf" utility (both come preinstalled in the default Ubuntu setup) to configure a PPPoE connection.
[06:21] <pragmaticenigma> howdy everyone
[06:23] <pragmaticenigma> Does anyone have a good source for setting up VNCserver to start a user session on boot?
[06:24] <theadmin> pragmaticenigma: Why not configure autologin instead? Always look for simplier solutions ;) Or that won't do?
[06:25] <pragmaticenigma> It won't do in this case... I have MythTV (separate user account) setup to auto login, but I would like my user account to auto start a VNCServer session on boot.
[06:26] <pragmaticenigma> I access my personal user account via my laptop... I already have the configuration setup in my user space for Xvncserver.... now I just need something that will start it on boot, so I don't have to manually start it each time I reboot
[06:27] <theadmin> pragmaticenigma: Hm... add "@reboot your_vnc_command" to your user's crontab?
[06:28] <pragmaticenigma> that might work... will that give a full session? Currently, depending on how I execute my vnc start command, I either get flawless experience, or lots of trouble when it comes to running admin tasks like using synaptic
[06:29] <pragmaticenigma> for instance, if I jump to one of the local VTs and start, leaving the VT logged in, I can launch synaptic without issue and it will auto prompt me for a password... otherwise, I have to launch synaptic from a terminal inside my vnc session and execute the synaptic program with gksudo
[06:29] <theadmin> pragmaticenigma: I have no idea, the only means of remote access I'm really familiar with are TeamViewer and SSH, I'm just talking from the idea of "starting a process at boot" to be honest
[06:33] <pragmaticenigma> yeah, that's essentially what I want to do... if teamviewer was a little more point-to-point I'd use it
[06:33] <pragmaticenigma> but I don't want 3rd party interaction with my machine
[06:35] <pragmaticenigma> perhaps I will need to do some more digging ... I appreciate the help, I like the tip and I'll give it a try theadmin
[06:46] <j2shar> Hi,everybody :) mouse programming in windows  requires <dos.h> what about linux ???
[06:47] <xeneth> in Ubuntu, is the adm group equel to the classic wheel group of unix?
[06:48] <bobbyd> j2shar, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-kernel-70/kernel-beep-manipulation-605355/#post2985230
[06:48] <bobbyd> j2bv16_, what are you trying to do though?
[06:49] <j2shar> I was trying just a paint application in windows
[06:52] <j2shar> it was nice so now trying to make it in linux
[06:52] <douglas> good night
[06:53] <douglas> brazil
[06:54] <chroot_> hi, how can i select the prefer mirror in ubutnu 12.04 server?
[06:55] <chroot_> i found use the standerd ubuntu mirror is a little slow when updating
[06:55] <llutz_> chroot_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and set your prefered mirror
[06:56] <Nicekiwi> anyone know if rekong has a PPA or .deb for its latest stable release?
[06:57] <Nicekiwi> rekonq*
[06:57] <llutz_> Nicekiwi: yoann laissus has one (rekonq-stable)
[06:57] <chroot_> llutz_: i know it is edit the sources.list file, but i want to set the http://ftp.sjtu.edu.cn/ubutnu precise main to be my main mirror
[06:58] <Nicekiwi> llutz_: thats a daily release isent it?
[06:58] <chroot_> llutz_: and there are many lines in that file
[06:58] <llutz_> Nicekiwi: nope he has both, stable  nightly
[06:59] <llutz_> chroot_: so replace all lines containing the slow mirror with your new mirror (sed, perl can do it for you)
[07:00] <Nicekiwi> llutz_: can you link me? all the ppa's form him i can find that have the 1.0 release are daily builds
[07:00] <chroot_> oh, I understand, thank you very much.
[07:02] <llutz_> Nicekiwi: hmm, didnt he update his stable to 1.0? sry i haven't used that for a long time and no www-access now to recheck
[07:02] <Nicekiwi> llutz_: no :( stable PPA is 0.7
[07:02] <llutz_> Nicekiwi: oops, sry then i dont know any ppa
[07:02] <Nicekiwi> llutz_: lame, thanks anyways
[07:09] <helpme5> anyone in here ?
[07:09] <babacool> hi everyone, could anyone help me correctly configure an openvpn server on ubuntu sever installed in amazon ec2? Or maybe refer me to a better channel?
[07:12] <iToast_> hi
[07:14] <engabmc> hl0o0o
[07:15] <nkn_> hai
[07:15] <engabmc> i need help :)
[07:19] <nkn_> hallo
[07:19] <helpme5> i
[07:20] <helpme5> ghi
[07:20] <fairuz_> Hi, I want to change my grub boot order, but I don't have  /boot/grub/menu.lst. Is there any other file?
[07:20] <llutz_> fairuz_: edit /etc/default/grub, set the DEFAULT value and run "sudo update-grub" then.
[07:21] <fairuz_> llutz_ ok thanks
[07:21] <des|2> what command will show info about distro?
[07:21] <llutz_> des|2: lsb_release -a
[07:22] <auronandace> fairuz: menu.lst is from grub legacy, ubuntu has been using grub2 since 2009
[07:22] <des|2> llutz: on LiveCD
[07:22] <fairuz_> llutz_ : umm where I can find the list? To know which number I want to put
[07:22] <fairuz_> I can reboot and found out, but there is surely a file
[07:22] <llutz_> fairuz_: /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:22] <fairuz_> llutz_ thanks
[07:23] <llutz_> fairuz_: grep menuent /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:23] <BUSTACAP> I'm having trouble installing the nessus .deb file I downloaded for the correct version of my ubuntu. The bar gets almost to the end and just randomly stops. Can anyone help get this installed?
[07:23] <des|2> i remember just that there is a short command to show info
[07:23] <des|2> lsb_release don't work
[07:23] <fairuz_> llutz_: I assume the order they come out is the order number?
[07:24] <llutz_> fairuz_: yes, starting with 0
[07:24] <fairuz_> llutz_ ok
[07:24] <auronandace> des|2: uname -a?
[07:25] <fairuz_> auronandace: that's for kernel versin + arch iirc
[07:25] <fairuz_> *version
[07:25] <des|2> auronandace: yes, that's it, thanx!
[07:25] <fairuz_> not distro info
[07:25] <auronandace> fairuz: i know
[07:25] <llutz_> fairuz_: correct answer to wrong question :)
[07:25] <fairuz_> :)
[07:26] <des|2> umm
[07:26] <des|2> it shows only kernel info
[07:26] <fairuz_> Well...
[07:27] <des|2> i can't get info about version of ubuntu on LiveCD
[07:27] <ripps> is it possible to force a package to install even if a dependency is missing?
[07:28] <des|2> oh
[07:28] <des|2> lsb_release worked
[07:28] <chu> Bugger.
[07:29] <llutz_> ripps: there is, but you don't want to break your system that way. "man apt-get" look for "--force-yes"
[07:30] <ripps> llutz_: well, it's because the nvida-driver won't install in quantal, and nouveau doesn't work for my card
[07:31] <llutz_> ripps: quantal support in #ubuntu+1, not here
[07:31] <ripps> llutz_: that'd be great, if someone was there
[07:31] <llutz_> still, not here
[07:37] <dontknow> do flash still need more performance on 64 bit?
[07:38] <szal> more performance than what?
[07:38] <dontknow> i mean does it use more cpu on 64 bit?
[07:39] <dontknow> szal, than 32bit
[07:42] <dontknow> 64 bit ubuntu more secure than 32 bit?
[07:42] <llutz_> dontknow: why should it?
[07:44] <defnordic_> hi, I tried to upgrade a machine (server) from 10.04 to 11.04 via do-release-upgrade as per the ubuntu homepage... but I have unresolved errors in linux-image-2.6.35-32-generic, linux-image-generic and linux-generic ...
[07:44] <nibbler__> dontknow, security should be equal
[07:46] <dontknow> nibbler__, are you sure?
[07:46] <nibbler__> dontknow, yes
[07:46] <dontknow> ok
[07:47] <Qantourisc_remot> Ubuntu connection manager nm-openvpn-service-open-helper fails because "did not receiver a valid IP4 Address from openvpn"
[07:47] <trijntje> defnordic_: do you mean upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 or from 10.04 to 12.04?
[07:48] <nibbler__> dontknow, security depends on methodology and avoiding software bugs, while the software sometimes might have minor tweaks for 32/64 bit stuff its not more likely for those to break than for 32bit, for the methodology the software uses it should be equal
[07:48] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, i doubt its a nm problem, sounds more like openvpn problem, openvpn-server problem even?
[07:49] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, did you try to connect manually, by calling "openvpn foo.conf" in the commandline?
[07:53] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: i'll make a custom config
[07:53] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: but i'd be supporised !
[07:53] <altan> hi
[07:53] <altan> ubuntu people
[07:53] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, if it worked, or if it did not work?
[07:54] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, i guess it won't work, thats why i assume its a server/config error
[07:54] <altan> what are some good stress testers for ubuntu, what im looking for is a good gpu tester
[07:54] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: i'll check, it's a fair thing to ask
[07:58] <tsolox> i'm configuring an ubuntu box..`ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>; route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>`  my usual routine in the past that works.. but this time `ping <IP_ADDRESS>` cannot ping
[08:01] <llutz_> tsolox: try "sudo service network-manager stop; sudo ifconfig eth0 up" before
[08:02] <altan> anyone know any good stress testers?
[08:04] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: i'm sorry it works like a charm ...
[08:04] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: so any idea why gnome screws up ?
[08:05] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: hmmm maybe a timeout ? maybe it's not waiting long enough on the dhcp server ?
[08:06] <KenjaminK> Hi, is there anyone who can help me out with a driver installation? I have a thread on the ubuntu forums, but I haven't gotten a response and I kind of want to get this done tonight.
[08:06] <tsolox> llutz_: 'network manager: unrecg servec"
[08:06] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, strange.... i'd suggest to use gopenvpn as a workaround - it uses the openvpn configuration directly but allows to start this via a click in the gui. its can also handle multiple openvpn connections simultaniously
[08:06] <tsolox> i'm pure commondlani
[08:06] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: hmm thanks for the tim
[08:06] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, besides that, anything more than the missing ip in /var/log/syslog?
[08:06] <Qantourisc_remot> *tip
[08:07] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: i had to run it using --debug from nm-helper
[08:07] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: but other then the hlelper quited with error code 2 no
[08:07] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, /var/log/syslog?
[08:08] <dontknow> considering 64 bit, ASLR, Nxbit, PIC make sense to you?
[08:08] <dontknow> i am asking 64 bit ubuntu is more secure than 32 bit?
[08:08] <linuxuz3r_> hi
[08:09] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__:  let see: a warn on could not determine devide driver, a warn VPL plugin failed 2  mwea tomutch to type, shall i paste the log somwhere ?
[08:13] <dontknow> does anyone really know which one is more secure, 64bit or 32bit?
[08:14] <Qantourisc_remot> dontknow: i'm quessing 32bit, since a lot have been ported to 64bit and potentially introduced bugs
[08:15] <bobbyd> dontknow, nothing is secure. What are you going to be doing with it?
[08:16] <dontknow> dude i want to install more secure one
[08:16] <compdoc> 64bit has been around a while, thanks to AMD. Its faster, and runs perfectly
[08:16] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, or ported fixing bugs...
[08:16] <Qantourisc_remot> dontknow: unless ofcours, your package was written in 64bit :p
[08:17] <bobbyd> dontknow, if your computer is 64bit, install 64bit...
[08:17] <Qantourisc_remot> dontknow: but if you want secure, there are better thing to worry about then 32bit/64bit
[08:17] <nibbler__> dontknow, if security has this high priority, maybe don't go ubuntu at all
[08:17] <Qantourisc_remot> dontknow:  think selinux and alike
[08:17] <bobbyd> dontknow, is this for your own workstation? Or for a server on the internet?
[08:18] <dontknow> bobbyd, for daily use!
[08:18] <dontknow> Qantourisc_remot, not necessary lol
[08:18] <dontknow> i have just read 64 bit has flash performance issues
[08:18] <Qantourisc_remot> dontknow: you want max security, you don't need selinux, but you worry about 64/32 bit ?
[08:19] <subdesign> hey all, i have a windows ntfs partition, i want to resize it so the half of it should be ext4, is it easy to do? and what app recommended?
[08:19] <llutz_> .. and care about flash.... dontknow pls take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:19] <bobbyd> dontknow, install 64bit and then go for a walk.
[08:19] <bobbyd> 64 bit s the most secure by far
[08:20] <compdoc> subdesign, defrag the partition using windows if possible, and use gparted to resize
[08:20] <dontknow> Qantourisc_remot, it is not like worrying about. just want to install more secure architecture
[08:20] <dontknow> bobbyd, why is it more secure?
[08:20] <subdesign> compdoc, thanks , defrag is recommended?
[08:20] <subdesign> or a must?
[08:20] <bobbyd> dontknow, because of the spintronic interfaces between the 64 bits.
[08:20] <compdoc> subdesign, not a must - just seen articles recommending it, and it has worked for me
[08:21] <subdesign> i see
[08:21] <dontknow> bobbyd, you just made it up
[08:21] <subdesign> thank you compdoc
[08:21] <Qantourisc_remot> dontknow: if you don't need selinux: 64 is as secure as 32 bit
[08:21] <compdoc> subdesign, good luck. might want to back it up
[08:21] <hirsty> Hey all im running a new install of ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[08:22] <bekks> hirsty: We dont know? :)
[08:22] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: how is the gnome tool called in CLI ?
[08:22] <bekks> hirsty: Tell us, are you running a new install? :)
[08:22] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: a dound it gadmin
[08:22] <zizoo> Hey, do you guys think there is a netbook out there for ~$300 or less that could perform well with xubuntu or lubuntu (or maybe some other lightweight desktop)? What netbook(s)/distro do you recommend, or where should I search or ask about this? Thinking on maybe asking on a stackexchange, but not sure which one would be best..
[08:22] <Kolusion> Is there an Ubuntu torrent?
[08:22] <hirsty> and i have a weird problem :/ Im running the rt3060 chipset for my wireless on my pc i can connect to my hotspot but cant connect to my wireless router :/
[08:23] <zizoo> Err, desktop, not distro. Though other distro recommendations are welcome too I guess.
[08:23] <Kolusion> see, open source is useless
[08:24] <zizoo> lol Kolusion. And everyone else who waits less than two minutes for an answer on an IRC help channel. xD
[08:25] <cervantez> hi guys
[08:26] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: gadmin-openvpn-client is more of the same GUI problems :( in this case "i have to import something first" but only the sourcecode can help me to get a CLUE where)
[08:26] <cervantez> @zizoo i think most netbooks run ubuntu fast enough
[08:26] <hirsty>                                                i did attempt using a bash script last night to fix it to no avail - its the 64 bit version :)
[08:26] <bobbyd> zizoo, my netbook is running standard ubuntu fine
[08:26] <cervantez> i would not go under 1gb of ram though
[08:26] <bobbyd> I think I upgraded it to 2GB ram, but it was ok before that.
[08:26] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, http://gopenvpn.sourceforge.net/ is what i meant - sadly not in the repos
[08:27] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: ow /me tries
[08:27] <zizoo> I would like to improve speed somewhat though, if possible. Is it typically faster than Windows 7? I remember how well my last (still reasonably good for the price) netbook fared(sp? faired?) with that and was not pleased.
[08:27] <hirsty> any clue anyone? i am on the internet atm because i have tethered my mobile to the usb :D
[08:29] <bobbyd> zizoo, my netbook takes about 5 minutes to boot under windows xp, and about one minute under Ubuntu
[08:29] <bobbyd> zizoo, Win 7 uses more ram than XP in general, so I'd expect it to be worse
[08:29] <bobbyd> zizoo, also, the virus checker kills performance under XP, and I don't need that under Ubuntu.
[08:29] <bobbyd> in general, I think you'll be fine.
[08:30] <zizoo> How about loading a browser with a 4 or 5 tabs?
[08:30] <hydrox24> hirsty: hmmm, seems that it should work perfectly in 12.04, are all updates installed?
[08:30] <bobbyd> hirsty, disable wifi security and try again
[08:30] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, by the way, the old ubuntu packages seem to work fine with later releases aswell
[08:30] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: i was counting on that
[08:30] <bobbyd> zizoo, depends what's on the tabs, but if it's not all Flash and WebGL, then it's fine
[08:30] <zizoo> And hm, that sounds good I guess. Was still wondering though if folks think Xubuntu or Lubuntu might improve performance even more.
[08:31] <bobbyd> number of tabs is usually just related to memory
[08:31] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: I'm used to a cli-based linux ... this gui sucks :)
[08:31] <hirsty> bobby my mobile hotspot uses the same security so it should work in theory?
[08:31] <zizoo> And generally I meant something moderately heavy, but not like Flash or crazy media. Like long Wiki pages.
[08:31] <bobbyd> I think mine boots using around 300Megs of ram
[08:31] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, the gui is a nice terminal multiplexer....
[08:31] <bobbyd> zizoo, oh, those are fine
[08:31] <zizoo> Ok, cool.
[08:31] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: hehe :) well battery is flat, brb
[08:32] <bobbyd> hirsty, yep, it should, but disable it anyway and then you'll know :)
[08:32] <hirsty> i am currently connected it if you want any reports from the terminal?
[08:32] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, http://drop.geekbox.info/gopenvpn_0.6-0sifnt_amd64.deb if you like/trust.
[08:32] <bobbyd> hirsty, you're connected to the router?
[08:32] <hirsty> yes
[08:33] <hirsty> well...it says so anyway
[08:33] <zizoo> hirsty: You're connected but not loading pages or online services...?
[08:34] <zizoo> Or you're getting full internet via the router?
[08:34] <hirsty> correct ive tried specifying a fixed ipv4 aress <IP_ADDRESS> with subnet <IP_ADDRESS> and def gateway <IP_ADDRESS> and using DNS servers provided by openDNS
[08:35] <bobbyd> hirsty, does your router have a web interface?
[08:35] <bobbyd> hirsty, can you check that the router is connected to the internet?
[08:35] <hirsty> yes but i am unable to access it
[08:35] <bobbyd> you'll have to connect with an ethernet cable
[08:36] <hirsty> it is otherwise i wouldnt be here (mobile connected thru wifi and im tethering off of usb)
[08:36] <noobx> hi everyone
[08:36] <nibbler__> hirsty, can you nopaste "tail -n 200 /var/log/syslog; ip a s; ip r s; cat /etc/resolv.conf"
[08:36] <bobbyd> hirsty, oh right
[08:36] <nibbler__> hirsty, executed while connected to/trying to connect to the router
[08:36] <bobbyd> I thought you were connecting through your phone connection
[08:37] <hydrox24> hirsty: do you have a linux laptop that is working with the wifi?
[08:37] <noobx> i have trouble in creating bootable usb for ubuntu can anyone help me with it?
[08:38] <noobx> err that
[08:38] <nibbler__> noobx, burn the image to cd, boot the cd, start the usb creator
[08:38] <noobx> i am using win 7 right now
[08:39] <hirsty> http://pastebin.com/tCNzEnJx
[08:39] <noobx> i tried unetboot and universal usb creator but they didnt work
[08:40] <bekks> noobx: Is your computer able to boot from USB at all?
[08:40] <hirsty> hydrox i am connected via desktop :) my custom built setup :D no laptops
[08:40] <noobx> yep it is able to boot from usb
[08:40] <Slart> I'm looking for a way to shape my torrent-traffic. I'm running deluge and using a pretty simple tc script but since I have encryption enabled in deluge I'm having a hard time deciding what traffic is torrent-traffic. Any hints or helpful thoughts?
[08:40] <silverghost> OI OI, I'am real punx eh?' ' u all r fallowers"
[08:40] <nibbler__> hirsty, looks good, just a nameserver is missing. try "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" please to verify, if this works: echo nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[08:41] <silverghost> ugh, eh  oi punx rulez u all r poserz
[08:41] <hirsty> is it possible to ping specifically on wlan0? otherwise it would ping through my mobile
[08:41] <silverghost>  chat in punk 1 my home
[08:41] <nibbler__> hirsty, or for more debug: sudo dhclient -v wlan0
[08:42] <silverghost> smokes bongs too eh'
[08:42] <Slart> !ops | silverghost
[08:43] <nibbler__> hirsty, oh, even worse, sorry didnt notice before. what is the ip of your router?
[08:44] <nibbler__> hirsty, try: ip r a <IP_ADDRESS>/32 via IP-OF-YOUR-ROUTER (which starts with 192.168.1. hopefully)
[08:44] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: DAM ubuntu software center is a memory hog !
[08:44] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, never use it ;-) dpkg/apt-*
[08:45] <hirsty> result of debug http://pastebin.com/RhUCPC97
[08:45] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: point
[08:45] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: trying to get the "user experience"
[08:46] <nibbler__> hirsty, so it gets all info via dhcp - now manually
[08:46] <noobx> :( i need help
[08:46] <nibbler__> hirsty, so: ip r a <IP_ADDRESS>/32 via <IP_ADDRESS> - then tracepath <IP_ADDRESS> to see if it goes via your router
[08:47] <asp1176> i need help w/ 'backing up' a dvd...
[08:47] <nibbler__> noobx, as i suggested before, boot from a clean ubuntu cd, then try running the usb-creator that ships with ubuntu
[08:48] <hirsty> i get a response file exists?
[08:48] <asp1176> i'm using handbrake, but it only encodes a couple of minutes of a 2 hr movie
[08:48] <noobx> but i want to install ubuntu on usb drive not want to creat live usb
[08:48] <nibbler__> hirsty, the first time already?
[08:48] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: how do i get it to run dhcpclient ? :p
[08:49] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, good question, it should do this automatically.... I'd guess you disabled dhcp for the auto-wlan0 connection, but you get an IP, but i dont see how you get it, is it fixed ip maybe?
[08:49] <hirsty> not getting replies from the tracepath
[08:49] <Guest24872> eric
[08:50] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, sorry, 2 dhcp topic right now, confused it ;-)
[08:50] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, do you have "pull" in your configs?
[08:51] <Qantourisc_remot> error launching openvpn subporeccess grrr
[08:51] <hirsty> well first i got permission denied then sudoed it
[08:51] <hirsty> :P
[08:51] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: what you mean pull in ?
[08:51] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, in your config file, is there a line "pull" - like the word, like the option. see "man openvpn" search for --pull
[08:51] <hirsty> this is on full DHCP atm
[08:52] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: to be fair, my config is probably borked :)
[08:52] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: and no
[08:52] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, hmm, seems only to apply to routes, not to IP :/
[08:52] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: it's tap :)
[08:53] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: but more importantly, the installation is borked atm :)
[08:53] <nibbler__> hirsty, sorry i'm out of ideas, but its quiet clear that it is *not* a wlan problem (layer 2 connection establised perfectly) but more likely a dhcp not willing to run problem, somehow you get an ip but no route via the wlan interface.
[08:53] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, ah okay.... no experience with tap on my side
[08:54] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: aa setuuid is not set
[08:54] <hirsty> driver problem or?
[08:54] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, gopenvpn should query for your sudo password then
[08:54] <nibbler__> hirsty, no, no driver problem imho. well... can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:54] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: euu nvm i'm running it as root i see now :)
[08:55] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: that makes things a lot worse though
[08:55] <nibbler__> hirsty, your latest paste shows successfull datatransfer between the router and your pc, discussing IP addresses with each other, so i'd not set this on layer 2
[08:56] <hirsty> ping result to <IP_ADDRESS> seems to be hanging a bit
[08:56] <zizoo> Oh, and I have one other question. I am also considering getting a tablet instead of a netbook for my $300, but I still want to load Linux on it. Any considerations on what tablet would be ideal for that? I especially like the idea of using and developing multi-touch applications specifically for Linux.
[08:57] <nibbler__> zizoo, all android tablets run on linux.
[08:57] <zizoo> nibbler__: I am aware. I would like Ubuntu.
[08:57] <nibbler__> then you might consider asking that ;-)
[08:58] <hirsty> :/
[08:58] <hirsty> still waiting on ping results...
[08:59] <zizoo> ;P Thanks. Still don't understand the confusion, but thanks for helping me resolve it I guess. xD
[08:59] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: doesn't work as root :)
[08:59] <zizoo> What should I consider in a tablet if I want to put Ubuntu on it?
[08:59] <nibbler__> hirsty, there are no results, ctrl-c it, it runs forever
[09:00] <hirsty> :/ weird lemme unplug my phone and try ping it will brb asap
[09:00] <nibbler__> hirsty, reconnect and reexecute dhclient aswell
[09:01] <hirsty> can u paste me the command line
[09:02] <nibbler__> hirsty, sudo dhclient -v wlan0 (after reconnecting to the router)
[09:02] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: /etc/openvpn/up.sh
[09:04] <hirsty> back
[09:04] <hirsty> i think my subnet may be incorrect?
[09:05] <hirsty> here is the result: http://pastebin.com/n35QjKgC
[09:05] <hirsty> shouldnt my subnet be <IP_ADDRESS>?
[09:06] <nibbler__> hirsty, hard to tell - i'd assume its right, as dhcp hands out <IP_ADDRESS> to you - netmask is not visible there, the 32bits you see is just the broadcast for the request
[09:06] <junctions> hello guys, I just wanted to know if there's a way to use a computer as a secondary monitor. I'm already using x2x through ssh and it's ok but I can't drag windows between monitors (as expected).
[09:06] <bekks> hirsty: That is a broadcast.
[09:06] <bekks> hirsty: Check your settings with "ifconfig -a" now.
[09:06] <nibbler__> hirsty, ip a s <- this shows you the netmask you get
[09:06] <hirsty> disconnecting again brb
[09:06] <chroot> how to create a link between two directories?
[09:07] <nibbler__> hirsty, did you reboot your router? maybe it just hangs partially
[09:07] <nibbler__> chroot, ln -s
[09:07] <chroot> nibbler__: ln -s foo bar , it will link foo to bar
[09:08] <nibbler__> chroot, yes. first argument is target (should be existing) second is link name (will be created)
[09:08] <nibbler__> chroot, mount -obind /foo /bar is another option
[09:08] <hot2trot> is there anyway to route ALL of my internet activity through a proxy, not just ssh or web browser
[09:09] <nibbler__> hot2trot, yes, either using netfilter (iptables) or by configuring the software that way, or by using a soxyfy wrapper
[09:09] <hirsty> ok ran both the above commands
[09:09] <nibbler__> hot2trot, but you might want a socks proxy for that and not a http/ftp[s] one
[09:10] <hot2trot> nibbler__: i'm not really gonna do it right now, but it is possible and reasonably easy to do?
[09:10] <qsuscs> hello
[09:10] <hirsty> here are my results: http://pastebin.com/tRFgjpEb
[09:10] <nibbler__> hot2trot, yes. check out documentation on tor or the like
[09:10] <qsuscs> when i reactivitaded my computer from standby yesterday, i somehow found out that / has been remounted ro due to an error
[09:11] <qsuscs> so today i took any cd with linux (it was kubuntu 10.10) and wanted to run fsck
[09:11] <nibbler__> hirsty, ifconfig is just the old (deprecated) version of the same command, interesting is "ip r s" to see routing, but even without that you should be able to ping your router at <IP_ADDRESS>... did you reboot your router ?
[09:11] <qsuscs> but i got that: fsck.ext4: Device or resource busy beim Versuch, /dev/sda5 zu öffnen (...while trying to open /dev/sda5)
[09:12] <qsuscs> so with lsof i found out that this one is blocking it: root       507  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    08:49   0:00 [jbd2/sda5-8]
[09:12] <nibbler__> qsuscs, does not sound good
[09:12] <hirsty> no i have not as there are 4 people in the house that connect to it :) and do not wish to be a pain in the backside :D
[09:12] <nibbler__> hirsty, ah ok, perfect. so can they ping <IP_ADDRESS>? can you?
[09:12] <qsuscs> how can i run a fsck now?
[09:13] <nibbler__> qsuscs, reboot
[09:13] <hirsty> nope
[09:13] <nibbler__> hirsty, "nope, nope", "yes, nope" or "nope, yes"
[09:15] <junctions> hey, anybody here know how I could set up another computer as a secondary monitor? (all programs should be run in the first computer)
[09:15] <hirsty> can ping from my android terminal but cannot ping from ubuntu
[09:15] <bluezy> Hello everyone, I have a silly auestion;  i haven't used ubuntu in a while, to go from stable to testing release is it still simply changing the sources.list source server from bladiebladiebla main to bladiebladiebla testing?
[09:16] <bluezy> question even
[09:16] <bluezy> junctions run the first as server, log into the first one, it is rather easy, I would use ssh to connect
[09:17] <qsuscs> well, nibbler__, i don't know how this should help, i already tried yesterday, but it didn't work either, but it was late, and i had to go to bed...
[09:17] <hirsty> i run ubuntu side by side on my pc with windows 7 64 bit, which runs fine
[09:17] <Stanley00> bluezy: you mean the next ubuntu release? quantal?
[09:18] <junctions> hey bluezy, thanks. but wait, ssh into the server and then how do I make the other one an extension of the first monitor? I also want to use the keyboard of the server to control both displays
[09:19] <bluezy> oh junctions, sorry that I am unsure off
[09:20] <junctions> ah bluezy, thanks for trying anyways. I'm using x2x through ssh to control both computers from one, but I'd like to be able to drag windows from one to the other
[09:20] <bluezy> stanley00 if I recall correctly, if you instead of using the names use stable testing or unstable, it keeps picking up the latest ones
[09:21] <bluezy> but I may be mistaken with debian
[09:21] <bluezy> I mean, they both use apt, but I know debian has that working, sort off
[09:22] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: the vpn thingy can't do it
[09:23] <bluezy> oh well,I'll just give it a go, and we'll see what happens
[09:23] <bluezy> (I will keep a backup copy of my sources.list
[09:24] <bluezy> thank you for keeping me amused and giving me a little project to try :-)
[09:30] <zizoo> Any tips on what would be a good tablet to load Ubuntu on for $300-ish?
[09:33] <RomeoAva> Please, I installed Ubuntu 12:04 and I have in Home a folder name it Debian. Is no hide. Can I change location? Can delete it? Thanks!
[09:34] <hirsty> back
[09:34] <hirsty> any ideas?
[09:36] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: gnome sucks :§
[09:37] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: gonne jerryrig a script
[09:37] <Lino> ciao
[09:38] <Lino> !list
[09:39] <compdoc> its 3:42am
[09:40] <testi> I have high CPU usage in Ubuntu 12.04 because of ubuntuone-syncd. Is that bug ever going to be fixed or is it irrelevant to Canonical? Does that company still exist?
[09:44] <compdoc> testiI think Ive seen one core have high use because of UbuntuOne as well. went away on its own, so Im not sure why that happened
[09:44] <compdoc> *testi,
[09:48] <n2deep> Hey what was in that last udevd update that was just pushed out to everyone in the last couple days I just installed it and my custom udev rules are choking
[09:48] <n2deep> what gives
[09:48] <testi> compdoc: ah it goes down after a while on my test system too. So I hope that in 2 years I can already upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04.
[09:48] <n2deep> How do I find that in launchpad or anywhere else for that matter
[09:50] <glenn> how can help me with sharing a printer in ubuntu
[09:51] <compdoc> testi, it has never happened with 12.04, and I've installed it on many computers
[09:52] <glenn> who can help me with sharing my brohter-hl-1450 by ubuntu so that i can print by xp and win7
[09:52] <llutz_> glenn: use your browser, open "http://localhost:631" and enable printer sharing
[09:53] <glenn> llutz_: where can i set enable printer sharing in cups
[09:54] <llutz_> glenn: "admin" enable sharing
[09:54] <glenn> llutz_: i did that but i can't print
[09:54] <llutz_> glenn: restart cups
[09:55] <glenn> llutz_:  did that also
[09:55] <glenn> llutz_:  did that also no printing
[09:55] <llutz_> glenn: in windows add a network-printer, point it to "http://cupsmachine:631/printers/queuename"
[09:55] <aethelrick> glenn http://www.owlfish.com/thoughts/winipp-cups-2003-07-20.html
[09:55] <setman> Hi all, I just finished disabling all effects on kde because I removed my video card. I've got additionnal drivers I can install. Should I install one of them ? GPU : GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
[09:55] <llutz_> glenn: you need to install printer-drivers for the printer in windows too
[09:56] <n2deep> hmm, maybe my issue is not related to that udevd update after all. ...I just may be asleep at the wheel.
[09:58] <TrevMyster> Hello
[09:59] <TrevMyster> I'm about to wipe windows and install ubuntu
[09:59] <glenn> aethelrick:  they talking about tho change my host file one xp by the ubuntu gets its ip by my router and it is not static
[09:59] <TrevMyster> Can someone tell me what is better with ubuntu over windows?
[10:00] <n2deep> pretty much everything depending on your point of view and needs
[10:00] <compdoc> TrevMyster, I use it for servers, and win7 for my desktop. Linux is stable and fast and the best part: free
[10:00] <TrevMyster> Can you tell me what I can do in linux that I can't in windows / vise versa.
[10:01] <n2deep> If you want complete control over your systems, Ubuntu / Linux is your best option.
[10:01] <TrevMyster> Can you tell me what you mean by "complete control"?
[10:02] <n2deep> TrevMyster: it's not really about what you can / cant do in one vs the other
[10:02] <n2deep> they are both tools
[10:02] <TrevMyster> Well my windows won't even start.
[10:02] <llutz_> TrevMyster: can you please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, this is a support-channel not for general win-linux discussion
[10:02] <TrevMyster> Is linux a good alternative?
[10:02] <aethelrick> TrevMyster: Ubuntu makes a good desktop operating system that is easy to use and feature complete. I've been exclusively using linux for work for well over ten years now and I have no need for windows at all. That said, if you like to play the latest video games then you may want to hang on to a windows partition for that.
[10:03] <TrevMyster> llutz, I don't see how this is off topic?
[10:04] <n2deep> this is not a Windows support channel :)
[10:04] <gvo> TrevMyster: Because this is a support channel for Ubuntu
[10:04] <TrevMyster> I'm not asking for windows support I'm really needing help with Ubuntu(:
[10:04] <TrevMyster> Cause I've already begun the install.
[10:04] <gvo> "Why" isn't a support question.  How is.
[10:04] <n2deep> good for you!
[10:05] <llutz_> TrevMyster: and your support-question is?
[10:05] <gvo> So you're looking for a reason to install Ubuntu after you've started installing it?  Seems backwards to me.  ;)
[10:05] <TrevMyster> Llutz, seeing how I've never used Ubuntu. I'm going to need help get started(:
[10:05] <llutz_> !manual | TrevMyster
[10:06] <TrevMyster> Ok do I want to "Install this third-party software" when insatlling it?
[10:07] <llutz_> how would we know?
[10:07] <TrevMyster> Idk what it does
[10:07] <n2deep> TrevMyster: just try to remember that it's still a computer and an operating system. You can do what you need to do, just realize that you may need to re-train your mind a little (or a lot)
[10:07] <TrevMyster> Fluendo
[10:08] <n2deep> all that 3rd party software can be installed after the install is finished too
[10:09] <n2deep> TrevMyster: there is thousands of software packages available to you on Ubuntu.
[10:19] <ssh-1138> Greets, I think apt-get is broken.
[10:19] <ssh-1138> the past few times I've tried in GUI and CLI to download skype or wine
[10:19] <ssh-1138> I keep getting a 404 from the repo
[10:19] <ssh-1138> I go to ping the repo, its there.
[10:19] <ssh-1138> I don't understand.
[10:21] <llutz_> ssh-1138: 404 means file not found, not server down
[10:25] <ssh-1138> anyone around?
[10:25] <Controls> maybe
[10:25] <Controls> :)
[10:25] <ssta> ssh-1138: often a 404 from teh repo means you need to do "sudo apt-get update"
[10:25] <freaker> hello
[10:25] <ssh-1138> alright, though I've tried that.
[10:25] <Controls> hi there
[10:25] <ssh-1138> Let me get the error
[10:26] <ssta> ssh-1138: could also be an out of sync mirror, which happens occaasionally...but is usually fixed in a few hours
[10:26] <freaker> total linux noob here just watching and reading  :)
[10:26] <ssh-1138> several errors
[10:26] <ssh-1138> W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[10:26] <ssh-1138> all of them center around no public key
[10:27] <bekks> ssh-1138: Thats a warning "W:" only :)
[10:27] <ssh-1138> ahhhh.
[10:27] <llutz_> and wheres the 404?
[10:27] <glenn> cannot open printer handle for printer \\linux
[10:28] <ssh-1138> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/v/vino/vino_3.4.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[10:28] <ssh-1138> when trying to download wine
[10:29] <subdesign> hi, i just created a new ext4 partition, but i cant make new folder on it. what to do?
[10:29] <llutz_> !permissions | subdesign you need to adjust permissions
[10:29] <ssta> ssh-1138: that's because it's been updated to ...-0ubuntu1.1.  You need to update
[10:30] <chroot_> hi, how can i install gnome3 desktop in ubuntu12.04
[10:31] <chroot_> which package i need to install
[10:31] <llutz_> !info gnome-session     | chroot_
[10:31] <ssta> chroot_: gnome-session (I think)
[10:32] <glenn> ho can help me to share my brother printer 1450 by ubuntu so that i can print form win7
[10:32] <ssh-1138> ssta ... update?
[10:33] <ssh-1138> as in sudo apt-get update?
[10:33] <ssh-1138> or another one entirely?
[10:33] <glenn> how to share a printer on linux
[10:33] <llutz_> glenn: you have been told already
[10:33] <SwashBuckla> hey all, in GRUB2 I have set GRUB_TIMEOUT=0, which means I can't boot into Ubuntu. How do I fix this?
[10:33] <glenn> llutz it 's not working
[10:34] <llutz_> !donotwork
[10:34] <SwashBuckla> !doughnutworks
[10:34] <llutz_> !dontwork
[10:34] <mkktbkkt> hello everyone
[10:34] <freaker> hello
[10:36] <glenn> hi
[10:36] <ssh-1138> ssta ... update?
[10:36] <ssh-1138> as in sudo apt-get update?
[10:36] <ssh-1138> or another one entirely?
[10:36] <SwashBuckla> in GRUB I have set GRUB_TIMEOUT=0, which means I can't boot into Ubuntu (the default OS is Windows)
[10:36] <SwashBuckla> I would like to use my existing Ubuntu installation but I'm trapped!
[10:37] <hydrox24> shinao1: try "sudo apt-get update"
[10:37] <hydrox24> then try reinstalling wine.
[10:37] <hydrox24> I've got to go now though, sorry.
[10:37] <chroot_> SwashBuckla: if you set the timeout to 0, you will bootinto ubuntu imediatly
[10:37] <glenn> how can i share a printer in ubuntu
[10:37] <chroot_> I do that on my machine to save the start up time
[10:38] <bekks> chroot_: How often do you boot during 24h? :)
[10:38] <mkktbkkt> can i use Compiz Fusion on xubuntu?
[10:40] <chroot_> bekks: that depends, two on average.
[10:40] <ssta> wow
[10:40] <llutz_> whow, saves 6 seconds/day...
[10:40] <ssh-1138> hydrox24: u
[10:40] <ssh-1138> * dimitri has quit (Client Quit)
 ssta ... update?
 as in sudo apt-get update?
 or another one entirely?
[10:40] <ssh-1138> * SwashBuckla (daedra@unaffiliated/swashbuckla) has joined #ubuntu
[10:40] <FloodBot1> ssh-1138: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:40] <ssta> I reboot maybe 4 times/year... :)
[10:41] <ssta> ssh-1138: yes, apt-get update
[10:41] <SwashBuckla> chroot_: wrong
[10:42] <ssh-1138> ssta: http://pastebin.com/wdtAJDu0
[10:42] <SwashBuckla> chroot_: i also set the default selection to be 3 (Windows in my menu)
[10:42] <bekks> chroot_: So you will save 20s a day :)
[10:42] <chroot_> SwashBuckla: you mean you install ubuntu along side windows?
[10:42] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: doesnt holding down left-shift at boot force the menu to be shown?
[10:43] <chroot_> SwashBuckla: then the ubuntu will be the default boot os
[10:43] <SwashBuckla> llutz_: no
[10:43] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: then you should get a live-cd and fix this
[10:43] <chroot_> SwashBuckla: normally, unless you configure it to start windows as the default operating system
[10:43] <chroot_> bekks: yes
[10:43] <SwashBuckla> chroot_: I modified menu.lst or whatever it is in grub2 so that Windows is the default
[10:44] <SwashBuckla> llutz_: what do I do in the livecd?
[10:44] <ssta> ssh-1138: perhaps this can help?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/80965/gpg-badsig-error
[10:44] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: change your grub-settings
[10:44] <SwashBuckla> does the livecd need to be 64bit if the OS is 64bit?
[10:44] <chroot_> bekks: oh, i was always wondering could i make some change to let the ubuntu boot faster?
[10:44] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: or just boot into your ubuntu to fix it
[10:44] <SwashBuckla> llutz_: lololol
[10:44] <SwashBuckla> llutz_: if I could do that I wouldn't have a problem
[10:44] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: ^^ using the live-cd
[10:45] <chroot_> SwashBuckla: I see, you prefer windows, but you can also set it back, i mean let the ubuntu be the default os
[10:45] <SwashBuckla> i don't prefer windows
[10:45] <SwashBuckla> but I want timeout to be 1 or something
[10:45] <SwashBuckla> so I get a chance to choose
[10:45] <SwashBuckla> llutz_: so livecd must be 64 bit if OS is 64 bit/
[10:45] <SwashBuckla> ?
[10:45] <bekks> SwashBuckla: Then just set it to 10, e.g.
[10:46] <chroot_> SwashBuckla: if you set the timeout to be 3, then you will got a chance to chose which os to enter!
[10:46] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: to change grub? no any live-cd would do
[10:46] <SwashBuckla> llutz_: wrong
[10:46] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: just set timeout=3 in grub-cfg to boot once
[10:46] <bekks> SwashBuckla: Not wrong. For changing grub any livecd is sufficient.
[10:46] <SwashBuckla> wrong
[10:46] <chroot_> SwashBuckla: and after you change the grub file, you should run update-grub to update it
[10:47] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: don't ask if you don't want an answer
[10:47] <bekks> SwashBuckla: It is working like that here for years. No matter what you like or not.
[10:47] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: you'll need 64bit live-cd if you want to run anything inside a chroot. not for just changing grub-timeout
[10:48] <dontknow> if i use jockey to install driver, will it be install latest ati driver?
[10:49] <dontknow> automated driver installation works on my computer
[10:49] <dontknow> will it install 12.06?
[10:50] <dontknow> 12.6*
[10:50] <bekks> dontknow: No. It will install the latest version available from the Ubuntu repos.
[10:51] <dontknow> bekks, where should i look if it is latest or not?
[10:51] <llutz_> dontknow: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> dontknow  the latest may be unstable and is not always the best
[10:52] <dontknow> MonkeyDust, 12.4 was pain in the ass
[10:53] <SwashBuckla> llutz_: isn't it necessary to run chroot to modify grub2 though?
[10:53] <dontknow> llutz_, i haven't installed ubuntu yet! could you send me a link for that?
[10:53] <SwashBuckla> llutz_: i.e. you do need the same arch for the live-cd
[10:53] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: you don't read what i write. to change grub it is, just to change a textfile to boot once its not
[10:53] <SwashBuckla> but grub2 doesn't use textfiles
[10:53] <SwashBuckla> afaik
[10:53] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: it does /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:54] <SwashBuckla> but then don't you have to run grub-generate (or similar) to build the new grub2 image?
[10:54] <llutz_> SwashBuckla:  grep timeout /boot/grub/grub.cfg   one is set to "-1" and the other to 0 in your case, change the 0 into 5 or whatever
[10:54] <SwashBuckla> based on grub.cfg
[10:55] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: then you can boot into your ubuntu and THEN fix grub the correct way
[10:55] <SwashBuckla> ah yeah, I can do that I guess
[10:55] <bekks> SwashBuckla: For changing the boot behaviour, you never had to build a new boot image.
[10:55] <SwashBuckla> didn't I?
[10:55] <bekks> SwashBuckla: No, using grub, that was never needed.
[10:55] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: once booted into ubuntu, edit /etc/default/grub and run "sudo update-grub" after it
[10:56] <SwashBuckla> I thought I had to do update-grub
[10:56] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: and this can be made from any live-cd you want, it just needs an editor and to be able to read/write your filesystem used for /boot
[10:56] <SwashBuckla> which recreated the GRUB 2 menu file
[10:56] <bekks> SwashBuckla: A menu file isnt a boot image.
[10:57] <llutz_> and could have been done in 10% the time we discuss this...
[10:57] <SwashBuckla> heh
[10:57] <SwashBuckla> I'm downloading a livecd as we speak
[10:58] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: supergrub-cd would be my choice, just to boot directly into your ubuntu
[10:59] <MarKsaitis> is there anything like this open source and free? http://www.dextronet.com/tree-notes this is a wonderful app
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> MarKsaitis  what does it do?
[11:01] <MarKsaitis> MonkeyDust, it lets you organise your information in notes and trees which is wonderful
[11:01] <pmdz> hi @all. I bought Dell XPS 13 few days ago. Installed 64bit version of Ubuntu, and system sees only 3.2GB of RAM instead of 4GB. In bios I can see 4096MB. Any ideas?
[11:02] <MarKsaitis> MonkeyDust, look at that screenshot on the left of the page.
[11:02] <ssta> pmdz: usual suspect is onboard graphics stealing memory...
[11:02] <MarKsaitis> All I want is a window with notes tree structure on the left and notes themselves on the right. Imagine it, you can store all your systems info here ORGANISED relativelly
[11:02] <pmdz> ssta: yes, but not in this case. It's integrated Intel HD3000
[11:03] <MarKsaitis> pmdz, does it run well with ubuntu?
[11:03] <MarKsaitis> like really fast and smooth?
[11:03] <pmdz> yes, It's fantastic machine with good support. With modified kernel ofc
[11:04] <DrZhivago> Good Day All - Anyone out there that could possibly advise me on a Raid issue?
[11:05] <CynepCupon> hello
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> MarKsaitis  try sudo lshw -html > foo.htm
[11:05] <CynepCupon> can someone please help me install the "radeon" / "ati" driver, the open source driver.
[11:06] <CynepCupon> so i can enable vga switcharoo
[11:06] <MarKsaitis> MonkeyDust, why?
[11:10] <Babyieboo> I know this maybe the wrong channel or place and I apologize in advance but I wanna know if ubuntu can be installed on xperia play r800i thanks
[11:16] <zetheroo> what is the best way to install Java in Ubuntu 12.04?
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> !java| zetheroo start here
[11:18] <Kwpolska> What is the default DM of Ubuntu 12.04?  It doesn't look like GDM.
[11:18] <llutz_> Kwpolska: lightdm
[11:19] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: thanks, but I have been there and read that ... however I am wondering if there is a method that people can recommend so I don't have to bloody myself going through what others have already gone through ...
[11:19] <Kwpolska> thanks.
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  that was the recommended way
[11:29] <RomeoAva> I can' see the fonts isn aPowerPoit presentation in Ubuntu 12:04. Any Idea?
[11:29] <RomeoAva> the roouts are roling
[11:29] <RomeoAva> the font is biger
[11:30] <RomeoAva> I tray to instal some windows fonts. any idea?
[11:31] <maj> how can i make flash work on youtube, both versions web and software centre crash on me?
[11:32] <jcklk_> maj: Synaptic?
[11:32] <maj> jcklk_:wich to install from synaptic?
[11:34] <maj> jcklk_:synaptic already says flashplugin-installer 11.2 ...
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> maj  try sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[11:34] <jcklk_> maj: I need to install Flash myself, I'll find it for you.
[11:34] <maj> im on 11.10 lubuntu
[11:36] <maj> MonkeyDust:flashplugin is already latest version it says
[11:37] <maj> wich log can i see if flash crashed?
[11:37] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: there are at least three separate methods on that document ... no!?
[11:39] <jmo1218> hi installed 12.04 on a barebones system and need advice on getting it to boot with display working
[11:40] <jmo1218> i am at the recovery prompt but unsure how to continue...can anyone help?
[11:41] <sajjad1> hi.how can i change status icons and other visual things like this in empathy?
[11:41] <mydogsnameisrudy> jmo1218:  what did you install ubuntu 12.04?
[11:42] <jmo1218> sorry meant precide pangolin
[11:42] <jmo1218> precise
[11:42] <Asad2005> How do i ssh to a VM os with IP of <IP_ADDRESS> from my ubuntu pc with different subnet 192.168.....
[11:43] <maj> anyone can help me fix flashplugin both web and software centre versions crash on me
[11:43] <Asad2005> i can ping my pc address from VM but not the otherwayround
[11:43] <jmo1218> installation is sucessfull but unable to get desktop
[11:43] <mydogsnameisrudy> jmo1218:  do you get to the login screen?
[11:43] <TrevMyster> what is the best torrent downloader for Ubuntu
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  yes, there's more than one method
[11:44] <jmo1218> mydogsnameisrudy: no screen goes black then nothing
[11:44] <jcklk_> maj: Why don't you just install the latest updates for Lubuntu? It will probably sort out all the crashes.
[11:44] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: which method would you recommend?
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset| jmo1218
[11:45] <maj> jcklk_: i just did full upgrade no fixed flash
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  i havent tried them myself
[11:45] <Josh4all> system settings -> additional drivers -> ati/amd proprietary fglrx graphics driver (after installation, reboot) -> details -> graphics -> it says "driver VESA: M92"    but why?
[11:45] <zetheroo> ?MonkeyDust: ok ... do you use Java on your system
[11:45] <jmo1218> MonkeyDust: ok will check it out thanks
[11:46] <jcklk_> maj: Lubuntu 12.4?
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  guess i've never needed it
[11:46] <netforce_> hi
[11:47] <maj> jcklk_: lubuntu 11.10 but on all flash crash
[11:48] <maj> jcklk_:on firefox, chromium, unity, lxde works nowhere..
[11:49] <hirsty> hi all ive found my wireless has come with a dat configyuration file would that be why it cant connect??
[11:50] <jmo1218> MonkeyDust: cheers it worked :)
[11:50] <maj> where can i check if flash crashed
[11:50] <netforce_> hi all
[11:51] <netforce_> i have the fallowing problem with my ubuntu 12.04
[11:51] <netforce_> i try to connect to vpn network
[11:51] <luftikuss> In mc, what is the command to make Panel 2's contents identical to Panel 1?
[11:52] <purplefool> in 'display' my monitor is shown as a laptop.  how do i change this to my gnr widescreen?
[11:52] <W4sp_> W4sp
[11:53] <netforce_> can anyone help my
[11:53] <netforce_> ??
[11:55] <purplefool> in 'display' my monitor is shown as a laptop.  how do i change this to my gnr widescreen?
[11:58] <netforce_> hi all, i have problem with connection to vpn server on ubuntu 12.04 can aneone help my???
[11:59] <Auzy> Need more details netforce_
[11:59] <Auzy> unfortunately with VPN, it isn't always basic
[12:00] <chenhangwei> ok
[12:00] <chenhangwei> ping
[12:01] <irreverant> I have a question about updating my libraries or installing using apt-get install command
[12:02] <Auzy> should ask irreverant ... if someone can help, they will
[12:02] <gry> Hello. After upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04, I have some issues which appear to be related to /usr/local/{bin,sbin} not being in $PATH (http://pastebin.ca/2177247). Should they be there and if so, how do I re-add them and how do I find out why they disappeared? Thanks. :-)
[12:03] <maj> anyone know howto fix adobe flash on 11.10, both version web or software centre crash on me
[12:04] <netforce_> i have vpn gataway, and username and password.I can connect to this gataway on MAC OS  with vpn-1 secure client, but on my ubuntu no.Thanks for the interest Auzy.
[12:04] <maj> i wish someone invent an alternative for adobe flash
[12:04] <gry> maj: Hello. I'll not be necessarily be the one helping you, but please add some details to your question. When do they crash for you and how exactly do they crash? Thanks.
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> maj  it's called gnash
[12:04] <Auzy> maj.. Flash is getting obsoleted anyway..
[12:04] <Odra> Hello
[12:05] <Auzy> Pretty sure adobe is focusing on HTML5 now anyway
[12:05] <Auzy> netforce_, what kind of VPN? You using Networkmanager?
[12:05] <maj> gry: when i open youtube, nothing happens on firefox, chromium says plugin missing, i just installed latest flash from web..
[12:05] <Auzy> Maj.. If you use Chrome, it has flash embedded..
[12:05] <Auzy> Google Chrome
[12:05] <gry> maj: Did you attempt installing flash from the software center? What packages did you try?
[12:06] <maj> Auzy:lemme try that
[12:06] <gry> Auzy: Chromium I imagine :-)
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> maj  i guess upgrading to 12.04 will solve a lot of problems
[12:06] <maj> gry: yes, both same problem..anywhere to see logs what goes wrong?
[12:06] <irreverant> Auzy well i'm trying to use su - then run the command but it doesn't seem to want to accept my password
[12:06] <gry> maj: I'm not aware of 'flash logs' location, but what packages did you try?
[12:06] <maj> MonkeyDust:just upgraded from 10.04 to 11.10, same flash problem
[12:06] <Auzy> but, I had issues in Chrome with the embedded flash.. I had to disable it, and I solved it using the repo one.. But, it could even be buggy video card drivers
[12:07] <Auzy> irreverant, use sudo
[12:07] <netforce_> Auzy: yes, i try to connect with NetworkManager.
[12:07] <gry> !sudo | irreverant
[12:07] <Auzy> Sudo escalates the privileges to admin level
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> maj  you might as well have upgraded to 12.04 then
[12:07] <Auzy> On most distros these days irreverant, Root has a random password.. You can emulate root with sudo bash though
[12:07] <maj> Auzy:whats chrome packagename
[12:08] <Auzy> You need to get it from Google site maj
[12:08] <maj> k
[12:08] <Odra> Do I really, really, need to use mono to develop on .net on linux?
[12:08] <Auzy> If Flash is jumpy, go to about:plugins .. And disable the inbuilt flash to be able to use the external one
[12:09] <Auzy> Odra, Probably?
[12:09] <Odra> :C
[12:09] <Auzy> netforce_, What type of Tunnel?
[12:09] <Auzy> netforce_, Please don't say PPTP...
[12:10] <Odra> But I am barely able to develop on windows. How am I going to develop cross platform
[12:10] <Auzy> Odra, I personally use QT.. try it, you'll like it
[12:10] <Auzy> Odra, and QT is VERY easy to develop for.. it's on par with Cocoa
[12:10] <Auzy> imho
[12:11] <netforce_> Auzy:i m not sure, i think PPTP.
[12:11] <irreverant> Ok. I type sudo -
[12:11] <irreverant> then I get type password for >>>>>>>
[12:11] <irreverant> I do and it says command not found
[12:11] <Auzy> - isn't a command irreverant .. Type sudo bash
[12:12] <irreverant> what is sudo bash?
[12:12] <Auzy> You need a command to be the parameter
[12:12] <Auzy> That thing you are typing commands in.. that is known as bash shell
[12:12] <Odra> Auzy: What is mono?
[12:12] <irreverant> wait why doesn't su - work in ubuntu?
[12:13] <Auzy> So what you are doing, is that sudo is opening a terminal with administrator privileges.. Everything you type in that terminal though, will be root
[12:13] <irreverant> if I want to get super user or root access to install thing?
[12:13] <Auzy> irreverant, Su doesn't work because you don't know the root password..
[12:13] <Auzy> Sudo is a better option
[12:13] <W4sp> irreverant: You would need to type in sudo <command>, such as sudo vi. If you need a shell with root privileges use sudo sh or sudo bash.
[12:14] <purplefool> in 'display' my monitor is shown as a laptop.  how do i change this to my gnr widescreen?
[12:14] <irreverant> so sudo sh or sudo bash emulates/ creates the ability to run things in root/admin mode?
[12:14] <Auzy> Odra, .net thing for linux? But, if you want cross platform apps, I use QT.. It is better imho
[12:14] <Auzy> yes irreverant..
[12:14] <bekks> irreverant: Use sudo -i instead of sudo bash.
[12:14] <Odra> Auzy: But that doesnt make sense
[12:15] <Auzy> Odra.. Why not?
[12:15] <Odra> If its supposed to abstract the .net stuff, why doesnt it work?
[12:15] <Auzy> its a .net development framework..
[12:15] <irreverant> Well, help me understand please why this was changed... cause if I recall su - then password was acceptable for the member / account I was using or even root
[12:16] <Auzy> irreverant, its a security thing.. People shouldn't be hanging out in root account
[12:16] <W4sp> irreverant: IF your require root on command line use sudo sh, once you are authorised use su -. This will give you the environment you may need.
[12:16] <Auzy> irreverant, there is also no point.. With Su exclusively, there is no nice way to give multiple users admin privs..
[12:17] <Odra> I think it should at least do about the same thing. But my menu disappeared. I cant select on my list. And the window wont restore anymore. IMO, that is just not right.
[12:17] <bekks> irreverant: su - never worked, since Ubuntu never had a root password set.
[12:17] <irreverant> Really cause I used it before.
[12:17] <irreverant> I had to enable the root user in user accounts though I think.
[12:17] <bekks> irreverant: Then you set a password for root yourself.
[12:17] <alankila> irreverant: maybe on some other distribution, or perhaps you actually set a root password.
[12:17] <netforce_> Auzy:If type of tunnel is PPTP, can i connect to vpn server under ubuntu.
[12:17] <W4sp> irreverant: if you require to have the ENV of another user use 'su - <username>
[12:17] <scooty_puff2> are all ubuntu packages compatible to run on debian and vise versa?
[12:18] <bekks> scooty_puff2: No.
[12:18] <ssta> scooty_puff2: not really
[12:18] <maj> Auzy:says cant load shockwave flash plugin
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> scooty_puff2  no
[12:18] <Auzy> Yes.. You should be able to netforce_.. But, there are SERIOUS security issues now with PPTP.. ie, PPTP can be cracked within 1 day now..
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> scooty_puff2  if ubuntu were exactly the same as debian, it would be called debian
[12:18] <Auzy> netforce_, PPTP also can have issues due to routers in the path.. Any reason why you are using PPTP?
[12:18] <bekks> Auzy: That was possible 15 years ago.
[12:19] <kora-chan> Hey guys, I'm using 12.04 on a thinkpad x220 (intel hd300). Did a system update yesterday and now my integrated graphics is not recognised anymore. glxgears fails to initialise, glxinfo doesnt find GLX. Any where to start troubleshooting? Thanks!
[12:19] <irreverant> Ok so what's the difference between sudo sh sudo bash sudo vi? I thought VI was an editor? Also if running amok in root was an issue then why offer the ability to use sudo bash if it still gives me the same privileges?
[12:19] <Odra> irreverant: Sudo is sudo.
[12:20] <dwakar> irreverant: bash vi sh are commands
[12:20] <bekks> irreverant: sh is a shell, vi is an editor, and bash is a shell too.
[12:20] <irreverant> bash is bourne again shell right?
[12:20] <irreverant> csh is c shell
[12:20] <maj> Auzy: chrome cant play flash neither, says cant load shockwave flash plugin
[12:20] <dwakar> irreverant: yep
[12:20] <bekks> irreverant: The important thing is, that sudo does not need a root password to be set.
[12:20] <irreverant> and bsh is b something shell
[12:20] <Odra> irreverant: Its like, you have a car, a bike and a jet. Then you add sudo. It becomes awesome car, awesome bike, awesome jet.
[12:21] <Auzy> bekks.. with a supercomputer maybe.. Now, its even easier
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> irreverant  sh means shell, bash means bourne again shell (i forget the history behind 'bourne')
[12:21] <bekks> irreverant: csh is the c shell, bsh is the bourne shell, bash is the bourne again shell and ksh is the korn shell.
[12:21] <ssta> Bourne is the name of the guy who wrote it
[12:21] <W4sp> irreverant: sudo vi is an example to demonstrate how to run vi with root privileges. 'sudo sh' gives you the sh shell with root privileges,
[12:21] <Auzy> bekks, Using Script kiddie tools even..
[12:21] <irreverant> ok then in what order or hierarchy do each run?
[12:21] <bekks> irreverant: That question makes no sense.
[12:21] <Auzy> if you run Sudo Bash, it runs as a program in terminal
[12:21] <ssta> umm, wrote the original shell...
[12:22] <netforce_> Auzy, i do not administer this server, but i need connect with him uneder ubuntu.
[12:22] <ssta> since sh was the Bourne shell;
[12:22] <Odra> irreverant: sudo just makes whatever comes after sudo run on super user mode.
[12:22] <irreverant> Alright then allow me to rephrase. I was giving the example of bike jet and car or were those just a way to illustrate the way each command works?
[12:22] <W4sp> irreverant: as mentioned, run 'sudo sh', after you have authorised run 'su -'. That will give you the ENV of root.
[12:23] <Auzy> netforce.. Could be anything.. My suggestion is to check the  logs.. Tell the Admin to get rid of PPTP though (thats what we have done).. We switched to OpenVPN now, because it works anywhere that allows UDP packets through, and works perfectly behind firewalls
[12:23] <Odra> irreverant: Its like an adjective. Between just command and admin command.
[12:23] <bekks> W4sp: Thats senseless.
[12:23] <bekks> W4sp: sudo -i
[12:23] <Odra> irreverant: When you write sudo you want to run a command on super user mode. Thats all there is to it.
[12:23] <irreverant> alright to make it simple in terms of syntax, sudo apt-get install firefox would be correct?
[12:23] <Odra> irreverant: First it prompts you for a password, then if the password is right it just executes whatever was in front of sudo as a super user.
[12:24] <W4sp> bekks: No, it's not. I did not type sudo -i, I wrote 'sudo sh'
[12:24] <ssta> using sudo is good practice...doesn't quite explain the hostility to other ways we see in here, but just accept that sudo is the Ubuntu way, life will be easier :)
[12:24] <W4sp> irreverant: I don't know anything about bikes.
[12:24] <Odra> sudo apt-get install is just apt-get install on super user mode. Which is needed.
[12:24] <Auzy> irreverant, basically, there is a file, that says what files are administators, just like in Windows.. You know how in windows you get UAC prompts..  It makes very much sense as there is a difference.
[12:26] <netforce_> Auzy, is there a way to understand type of tunnel, only with gataway ip.
[12:26] <bekks> W4sp: su - is senseless using ubuntu, since it requires a root password set, which isnt set by default, for security reasons.
[12:26] <ssta> W4sp: sudo -i does the same thing in a single step
[12:26] <glebihan> W4sp, but that should never be used, precisely it doesn't *correctly* set the environment, "sudo -i" is the command to use
[12:26] <bekks> Andd sudo -i gives you a root shell in the root environment, too.
[12:26] <irreverant> so then ok, sudo sh
[12:26] <irreverant> password
[12:26] <bekks> irreverant: No.
[12:26] <irreverant> apt-get install firefox
[12:26] <bekks> irreverant: sudo -i
[12:26] <Odra> wtf
[12:27] <Auzy> Not really netforce_ .. IF its PPTP though, then, you just use Networkmanager-PPTP.. And, check the logs.. Keep in mind, PPTP never works consistently everywhere
[12:27] <W4sp> bekks: If you try what I wrote you will see 1.) it works, 2.) it is exactly as described by me.
[12:27] <Odra> irreverant: What command you want to execute?
[12:27] <gry> bekks: why not sudo?
[12:27] <ssta> irreverant: if all you want is to install firefox, just do: sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:27] <bekks> irreverant: Or in one step: sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:27] <irreverant> I just want to learn the commands and the reason behind them.
[12:27] <Odra> irreverant: Here I'll divide it in parts.
[12:27] <gry> irreverant: In Ubuntu, Firefox is already installed by default.
[12:27] <bekks> gry: Because for running apt-get, it is unnecessarry to run sudo -i
[12:27] <gry> bekks: that's why one does not use sudo -i, no?
[12:27] <Odra> firefox is what you want to install. install is what you want to do. apt-get is what you need to call. sudo is what you need for it to work. The password comes later.
[12:28] <Auzy> also netforce_  One VERY important thing, PPTP will ONLY work if the target network has a different IP range to the one you are at.. So, if you use 192.168.1.X at work, you can't use that at home.. Because, your computer wont know which network the data should be sent to
[12:28] <irreverant> Odra: thank you. I can understand parts
[12:28] <zorael> Trying to install xtables-addons-dkms but it fails with 'make[1]: *** No rule to make target `am--refresh'.  Stop.'  Ideas?
[12:28] <bekks> gry: For running apt-get, you need sudo apt-get only, not sudo -i; apt-get
[12:28] <irreverant> so there like declarations
[12:28] <Odra> DUDE
[12:28] <gry> bekks: I was just wondering what you recommend to use sudo -i for. :-)
[12:28] <Odra> JUST USE THE SOFTWARE CENTER D:
[12:29] <Auzy> yes.. or that
[12:29] <netforce_> thank you Auzy!
[12:29] <irreverant> Look i'm coming from a windows environment and reading everything I can.
[12:29] <bekks> gry: I just recommend sudo -i instead of sudo sh; su - :)
[12:29] <irreverant> That's no better than just being lazy.
[12:29] <Odra> irreverant: SUDO MAKES YOU ADMIN. There. Said it.
[12:29] <mbutubuntu> hello folks, I'm going crazy to access the "panel" menu to add indicators in ubuntu 12.04... I've tried super+alt+rClick but it doesn't work...
[12:29] <ssta> W4sp: it's not quite the same (very close though).  See: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1128821/
[12:29] <schnuffle> irreverant: the man command gives you all info for a command man sudo
[12:29] <Odra> irreverant: Can you program?
[12:29] <bekks> irreverant: Then use sudo apt-get only, instead of sudo whatever :)
[12:29] <gry> irreverant: welcome. The help.ubuntu.com website should be of great help if you get a bit of time and decide to have a read in non-interactive environment at a point. :-)
[12:30] <mbutubuntu> I've aso tried other keys/click combinations as seen here (http://askubuntu.com/questions/125891/panel-settings-not-appearing-on-right-click-in-gnome) withouth success
[12:30] <mbutubuntu> have you got any idea?!
[12:30] <Odra> It works like this. void sudo (command) { if(password is right) admin.execute(command); else beep; } // Sudo in a nutshell
[12:30] <Derpian> I need to copy a folder to /opt but cannot, I tried sudo su but no luck. any ideas?
[12:30] <Auzy> irreverant, Ignore this discussion then.. there are a hundred different ways to do the same thing.. Just give them a try.. You'll pick it up easy.. But, most things you can do in GUI.. Its worth learning to get around in bash, but, if you can't use bash, it actually makes you more valuable as a feature requester actually
[12:30] <irreverant> Haha! I have read a ish load now I have questions about each argument and how it works.... I even tried building my own distro but what is written in books is different than what is practical knowledge.
[12:30] <gry> mbutubuntu: Alt + click works for me.
[12:31] <gry> mbutubuntu: Alt + right click, that is.
[12:31] <schnuffle> Derpian: paste the command line that failed
[12:31] <Odra> I am not even sure he wants to install anything D:
[12:31] <irreverant> Yes, I used to program.
[12:31] <Auzy> yeah.. then you know..
[12:31] <W4sp> ssta: Thanks for the output on pastebin. Please see what I wrote. I did not write what you typed in, I said 'sudo sh' and after authorisation 'su -'.
[12:32] <Odra> I program too. I just made something that doesnt work on mono.
[12:32] <W4sp> ssta: Just scoll up and review.
[12:32] <irreverant> Well here's the damn thing I programmed learning pascal, cobol, fortran, basic and c
[12:32] <ssta> W4sp: the diff is still the same
[12:33] <Odra> irreverant: I only know C++ and C# and I still know how sudo works.
[12:33] <irreverant> havent done it in a long time that I've forgotten an ish load and find it much more useful just asking the fundamental basics and then expanding on those topics.
[12:33] <Derpian> schnuffle: cp eclipse /opt and I get: cp: omitting directory `eclipse'
[12:33] <irreverant> Haha!
[12:33] <mbutubuntu> gry, it doesn't work... o.0
[12:33] <irreverant> Sorry....
[12:33] <Auzy> Odra, Oh, the missing window thing.. could be a lot of things.. Once in a class, I mixed up my Main function argument parameters, took an entire lesson before we realised the compiler wasn't buggy
[12:33] <irreverant> Apparently doing things in windows has affected me.
[12:34] <Odra> irreverant: Its like a callback method. You send the command to sudo and it makes sure the command runs on admin mode.
[12:34] <ssta> the compiler is almost never buggy :)
[12:34] <Odra> Auzy: But it doesnt make sense.
[12:34] <irreverant> i hope your joking that the compiler is almost never buggy! :)
[12:35] <ssta> irreverant: if you're a programmer and you think you've found a compiler bug, it's almost never true...
[12:35] <Odra> Unless System.Windows.Forms isnt really for "windows" but for "Windows"
[12:35] <Auzy> after 1 hour, having a tutor and 2 other people, we were almost convinced.... But it really isn't
[12:35] <Odra> But if it was a windows only windows, where is System.Linux? Why isnt it on Microsoft.Windows.Forms instead
[12:36] <Auzy> Odra, btw, I think Mono isn't the same as Windows forms .net .. I might be wrong.. Never bothered with Mono personally
[12:36] <Odra> Auzy: But it can run the program. Just terribly.
[12:36] <Auzy> You'll work it out..
[12:36] <Odra> Why would it not be the same windows.forms?
[12:36] <Odra> What is the point of abstracting .net if you arent implementing it D:
[12:37] <Auzy> I'm not sure if it is or not.. If it compiles though, I'm wrong..
[12:37] <Odra> Maybe my ubuntu version and mono versions are out of date.
[12:37] <Odra> Auzy: I didnt compile it on mono-develop
[12:37] <shinao1_> Did someone call?
[12:38] <Odra> Auzy: Maybe thats the problem.
[12:38] <Auzy> just guessing, but, I know there was some talk that only Novell had the patent licenses for some windows stuff (that whole patent sharing debacle).. Are you running it in Terminal?
[12:38] <Auzy> I tried it once, and I needed to use GTK .net
[12:38] <Auzy> or something else..
[12:39] <Odra> I'm running it through the command mono <executable here>
[12:39] <Odra> And its only half-assedly working.
[12:39] <Odra> Everything seems to work fine, except the GUI
[12:39] <Auzy> but, was never sure about the cross platform compatibility. Hence,  why I switched to QT
[12:39] <Odra> Which is 99% of everything btw.
[12:40] <Auzy> apparently, it should support forms.. but better off asking in #mono
[12:41] <neohashi> I did something stupid in an attempt to get my ebanking to work.. installed oracle java7 <- now I can't remove it again :/
[12:41] <Odra> Auzy: Is there a rule where if I compile it using MSVS it doesnt work on mono?
[12:41] <bekks> neohashi: Why not? And how did you install it?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> neohashi:  a great many people use Oracle Java.
[12:42] <october82> hi all
[12:42] <october82> anyone use bumblebee?
[12:42] <Auzy> I dunno Odra.. Don't know enough about it.. Better to ask the guys in #mono.. At the time, there was no windows.forms for Linux (years ago I think I tried last).. But, forums are saying there are now
[12:42] <Odra> october82: I prefer optimus prime
[12:42] <october82> i don't know how to install it correctly
[12:42] <october82> Odra, xD
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/136171/ubuntu-12-04-bumblebee-hdmi Perhaps october82 .
[12:43] <schnuffle> october82: or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> !info bumblebee
[12:43] <october82> yeah, but this wiki don't work for me
[12:44] <october82> schnuffle,
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> and the issue/problem is what exactly october82 ? error messages of any kind?
[12:44] <gry> mbutubuntu: did you figure out the panel properties?
[12:44] <neohashi> I did a apt-get install oracle-java7-installer via some ppa .. now even after removal java -version still tells me it is oracle java.
[12:45] <october82> yes, Dr_Willis error messages, "can't access GPU" like this
[12:45] <neohashi> tried installing openjdk hoping it would overwrite it
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> neohashi:  you should be able to install the other javas and they will set them selves up to be the default java.
[12:45] <OMGUBUNTU> Hello
[12:45] <gry> hi OMGUBUNTU
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> neohashi:  http://suhothayan.blogspot.com/2012/04/change-default-java-installation-used.html
[12:46] <OMGUBUNTU> hey gry
[12:46] <Derpian> got my eclipse IDE working
[12:46] <Auzy> needs more caps..
[12:46] <OMGUBUNTU> CAPS?
[12:46] <Auzy> Your nick.. Nevermind..
[12:46] <OMGUBUNTU> lol
[12:47] <dwakar> what are unity lenses actually? how can i use those?
[12:48] <OMGUBUNTU> in the menu
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> dwakar:  when you click on the Big button at the top left.. at the bottom of that window are the differnt search lenses.
[12:48] <OMGUBUNTU> there the things at the bottom of the menu
[12:48] <OMGUBUNTU> applications, files, music ext lens
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> dwakar:  askubuntu.com as a large list of addational lens not in the default repos.
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> dwakar:  a Must get lens is the 'askubuntu' lens.
[12:49] <dwakar> Dr_Willis: I installed wikipedia lens but cant use it
[12:49] <CynepCupon> anyone know if NVIDIA graphics cards are better than ATI RADEON?
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> dwakar:  wikipedia lens works for me.. or it did the other day.
[12:49] <bonhoeffer> i upgraded to 12.04, but can't boot now -- i'm checking the filesystem now and no errors, i have a unetbootin live cd usb, can i use that to repair things
[12:49] <CynepCupon> basicly trying to game in WINE
[12:49] <october82> http://pastebin.com/e9PcC3wH
[12:49] <dwakar> how do you lanch it
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38772/what-lenses-for-unity-are-available
[12:49] <bonhoeffer> my error on boot is glibc_2.14 not found
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> dwakar:  same as any other lens.. click big button at top left.. click on the lense to use.. type in pattern
[12:50] <bonhoeffer> produces general error mounting filesystems
[12:50] <bonhoeffer> i'm in a maintenance shell now
[12:50] <Auzy> CynepCupon, That's a loaded question.. Most people will say Nvidia is better (including Valve, who are working on Steam).. BUT, Linus hates Nvidia, because they use a closed source driver
[12:50] <treaverhoerig> Can you hear me now?
[12:50] <dwakar> Dr_Willis: where are these lenses at in the dash window
[12:50] <gry> TrevMyster: hi.
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> dwakar:  at the bottom of the window.. a whold row of icons..
[12:51] <CynepCupon> Auzy: they both used closed source drivers
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> dwakar:  perhaps a check of Youtube for 'unity lens' may show
[12:51] <purplefool> how can i make my display not show my screen as a laptop?
[12:51] <Auzy> CynepCupon, Basically, use whatever GPU brand you prefer.. These days, both ATI and Nvidia are making pretty decent hardware.
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> dwakar:  after installing new lens i think you need to log out/back in for them to appear
[12:52] <CynepCupon> Auzy: i can't get my AMD Fusion working properly enough to game in ubuntu, stuck at 20-30fps
[12:52] <CynepCupon> i have "hybrid" ati graphics.
[12:52] <CynepCupon> i'm using fglrx
[12:52] <dwakar> Dr_Willis: no it hasn't only general search, applications, music and videos no wikipedia lens
[12:52] <october82> http://pastebin.com/e9PcC3wH <<--- any help?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> dwakar:  have you logged out since you installed the new lenss?
[12:53] <Auzy> CynepCupon, ATI have an open source driver.. But, depends on the hardware.. I think Fusion support in Linux is recent though, What game?
[12:53] <dwakar> Dr_Willis: I have to?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> dwakar:  after installing new lens i think you need to log out/back in for them to appear  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<  I said i think you do....
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> perhaps some day all this logging out/back in will get 'fixed' :)
[12:54] <CynepCupon> Auzy: just Day of Defeat: Source
[12:54] <CynepCupon> i checked by booting windows and getting 60-90fps
[12:54] <Auzy> CynepCupon, in Wine though ?
[12:55] <CynepCupon> yes, wine using Play On Linux
[12:55] <bonhoeffer> my big question is if i can use the live cd to upgrade, rather than install a whole new os
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer:  the alternative cd - can be used as a upgrade repository
[12:55] <bonhoeffer> because the upgrade online caused this problem
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> the desktop cd. cant.
[12:55] <CynepCupon> i was thinking to return the computer since i kept it new looking
[12:55] <CynepCupon> and get an Nvidia one
[12:55] <Auzy> CynepCupon,  Wine isn't fully optimised (and, some of the API isn't at all).. Good news though, Valve have confirmed they are releasing Steam for Linux, and that they have L4D2 working on Linux well already
[12:55] <CynepCupon> Steam is developing linux native client?