[12:30] <marcin> hi all
[12:30] <marcin> anyone?
[12:30] <crimsun> hi
[12:30] <marcin> I need some help with emacs packages
[12:30] <marcin> crimsun: hi
[12:30] <crimsun> I think I'll run away screaming now.
[12:31] <marcin> crimsun: hehe :)
[12:31] <marcin> crimsun: you don't like emacs? why oh why ;)
[12:33] <marcin> heh and he propably is far far away now... no way to ask
[01:03] <crimsun> wtf, did I add gstreamer0.8-plugins as a B-D?
[01:03] <crimsun> duh!
[02:35] <bmonty> good evening everyone
[02:44] <rbelem> bmonty, good evening ,-)
[02:45] <bmonty> seems pretty quiet in here :)
[02:53] <rbelem> today is friday... i think the people are a bit tired... hehehe
[08:44] <pef> hello
[08:47] <pef> where can I find the official documentation about the path of desktop files ? (/usr/share/applications instead of /usr/share/applnk)
[08:54] <\sh> morning
[08:58] <pef> \sh: morning
[09:07] <siretart> morning
[10:40] <crimsun> hmm.
[10:40] <crimsun> ?? -> mozilla-dev: Depends: mozilla-browser (= 2:1.7.11-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[11:08] <siretart> yay!
[11:08] <siretart> finally a working lyx!
[11:09] <siretart> bob2 promised to upload a new lyx version to sid today, I'm using a package from Georg Baum, lyx upstream
[11:31] <Yagisan> siretart: ping
[11:34] <pef> siretart: have you check kile ? ;)
[11:39] <siretart> pef: I had a short look at kile, I prefer lyx
[11:39] <siretart> pef: in my department, a lot of ppl are using lyx
[11:39] <siretart> Yagisan: pong
[11:41] <Yagisan> siretart: did one of my uploads get nuked ?
[11:41] <Yagisan> siretart: according to dput, it went up yesterday, but I don't see it tooday
[11:42] <Yagisan> siretart: package was deng-jheretic-tp
[11:42] <siretart> I have deng-jheretic-tp in rejected queue
[11:43] <siretart> because it was signed with a key not in revu keyring
[11:43] <Yagisan> should I reupload ?
[11:43] <Yagisan> that's funny, my key is there
[11:43] <siretart> did you use a different key?
[11:43] <siretart> shall I add 4B6E7209, too?
[11:43] <Yagisan> no
[11:43] <siretart> strange..
[11:44] <Yagisan> that's my number
[11:44] <siretart> strange..
[11:44] <Yagisan> I had an old key, but that sadly is no longer with us
[11:45] <siretart> I requeued your upload
[11:45] <siretart> ok, your upload is now in revu
[11:45] <Yagisan> thank you. There should only be one or two more new uploads to go
[11:46] <Yagisan> then I'm finished with what I am sending to revu
[11:46] <Yagisan> It's odd my key was rejected
[11:46] <siretart> I think they are very similar to packages you already uploaded, yes?
[11:47] <Yagisan> basicall a hexen version of whats been uploaded
[11:47] <Yagisan> upstream did a new release yesterday
[11:47] <Yagisan> so I need to test, and adjust as required
[11:47] <Yagisan> mayby delete obsolete packages
[11:49] <Yagisan> I feel silly, but when I try to login to revu, it says invalid password
[11:49] <siretart> Yagisan: try the recover password link\
[11:49] <Yagisan> I did
[11:49] <siretart> still bad?
[11:49] <Yagisan> decrypted fine
[11:49] <Yagisan> yes
[11:49] <Yagisan> Do I need to be a reviewer to comment on my packages
[11:49] <Yagisan> ?
[11:52] <siretart> Yagisan: you need reviewer status for commenting other packages
[11:52] <siretart> whats your email again?
[11:52] <Yagisan><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:53] <siretart> argl
[11:53] <siretart> it's because of the '_' in your email, wait. I'll fix that
[11:54] <Yagisan> :)
[11:55] <siretart> Yagisan: now your password works. was a bug in revu
[11:56] <Yagisan> thanks siretart.
[12:17] <n> I've just tried the latest opensuse beta and I'm very impressed with its 'Suspend to disk' shutdown/boot feature which has halved my boot time. Will breezy implement this too?
[12:19] <tseng> it already does.
[12:19] <n> tseng: colony 3 does that?
[12:19] <tseng> yes.
[12:20] <n> Last breezy beta I tried was very unstable- whats c3 like? Useable?
[12:20] <tseng> works for me, your mileage may vary, etc
[12:20] <tseng> its much improved
[12:21] <n> Does suspend to disk work under KDE, GNOME or both?
[12:21] <tseng> suspend to disk is in the kernel
[12:21] <n> (under colony 3)
[12:21] <\sh> n: both
[12:21] <\sh> n: it worked as well on hoary on some laptops
[12:22] <n> right, I'll have to give it a go then!
[12:59] <ivoks> hi
[01:01] <\sh> hey ivoks
[01:01] <ivoks> what's up?
[01:02] <\sh> how's life?
[01:02] <ivoks> heh... great :)
[01:02] <Nafallo> I got stuck with my head in the rabbitcage :-/
[01:03] <ivoks> i met one girl while on vacation :)
[01:03] <\sh> ivoks: only one?
[01:03] <ivoks> ok, i met couple of them...
[01:03] <ivoks> but this one... huh... i'm in love :)
[01:03] <\sh> hehe
[01:03] <ivoks> but she's 400km from me :(
[01:04] <\sh> ivoks: east or west?
[01:04] <ivoks> southwest :)
[01:04] <\sh> italy?
[01:04] <\sh> turkey?
[01:04] <\sh> come on...tell us...
[01:04] <ivoks> croatia, you silly boy
[01:04] <ivoks> there is no girl like croatian girl :)
[01:05] <\sh> that I said to my ZA-indian girl as well
[01:05] <ivoks> i see you never were in croatia :)
[01:06] <Treenaks> ivoks: I see you've never been to Scandinavia :P
[01:06] <ivoks> Treenaks: :)) i have expirience with them :)
[01:06] <ivoks> Treenaks: i don't prefere blond girls :)
[01:07] <ivoks> lot's of swedes were in croatia this summer
[01:07] <ivoks> and they brought their kids... female kids :)
[01:08] <Treenaks> dudes, this is #ubuntu-motu, not #ubuntu-mate
[01:08] <\sh> ahhaha
[01:08] <ivoks> :)
[01:08] <Treenaks> (in the non-Australian sense of that word :))
[01:08] <Nafallo> those are Swedes to ;-)
[01:08] <ivoks> Nafallo: yeah :)
[01:08] <\sh> we have a discussion about logging of the #ubuntu-de channel...because some people doesn't like the way, the logfiles are published via web
[01:08] <Nafallo> http://www.magicalforest.se/tmp/mys.jpg is picture proof of that ;-)
[01:09] <Nafallo> \sh: we have that issue on #ubuntu.se to.
[01:09] <\sh> they're frightend that anybody can read their words...and this is sometimes ah well...not positive for them ,-)
[01:09] <Nafallo> \sh: we just tell them to add it to the agenda for next meeting ;-)
[01:10] <Treenaks> ok.. expect no more useful work from ivoks until breezy+1 release at least ;)
[01:10] <Nafallo> hehe :-)
[01:10] <\sh> hahaha
[01:11] <ivoks> and there is no ADSL :)
[01:11] <\sh> oh sh*t i have to hang my clothes
[01:12] <Nafallo> ivoks: then it's dep-wait: adsl :-)
[01:12] <Nafallo> ivoks: tell the girl that to ;-)
[01:13] <ivoks> Nafallo: who is this? :)
[01:13] <ivoks> ok, i see i have to show you pictures of croatian girls :)
[01:13] <Nafallo> ivoks: on the picture? :-)
[01:13] <ivoks> Nafallo: yeah :)
[01:13] <Treenaks> Nafallo: your link is slow btw (re: your picture :)
[01:14] <Nafallo> ivoks: me and my girlfriend since soon three years :-)
[01:14] <Nafallo> ivoks: re: swedish girls ;-)
[01:14] <Nafallo> Treenaks: no shit :-P 430kbit in/out :-)
[01:14] <ivoks> lol non-blond scandinavian
[01:14] <Treenaks> Nafallo: I thought Sweden was Bandwidth Paradise
[01:15] <Nafallo> Treenaks: not for everyone :-/
[01:15] <Nafallo> Treenaks: my KC can do 8Mbit with best effort, they only sell 2Mbit max for it.
[01:15] <Treenaks> Nafallo: I can get 20mbit/1mbit ADSL2+ if I want
[01:16] <Nafallo> Treenaks: baah :-P
[01:16] <Treenaks> (I'll probably get 10/1, but whatever)
[01:16] <Treenaks> Nafallo: I'm now on 2/1 though
[01:16] <Nafallo> I usually prefer symmetric ADSL though ;-)
[01:17] <Nafallo> and this ISP is great, like: do what you want, we won't block no ports.
[01:17] <Treenaks> Nafallo: SDSL, they only sell up to 2.3/2.3mbit here
[01:17] <Treenaks> for massive amounts of money/month
[01:17] <Nafallo> Treenaks: it is ADSL, but shaped to 512/512kbit by them and 430/430kbit by me ;-).
[01:17] <Treenaks> why 430 by you?
[01:18] <Treenaks> so you always have 82kbit spare/
[01:18] <Treenaks> ?
[01:18] <Nafallo> the damn PPPoE will drop on >= 440kbit
[01:18] <Nafallo> :-)
[01:18] <Treenaks> Nafallo: ah, then I have a better deal :)
[01:18] <Nafallo> hehe
[01:18] <Treenaks> Nafallo: I get pure ethernet (DHCP)
[01:18] <Treenaks> no additional wrapping
[01:19] <Treenaks> and soon I'll even get native ipv6 \o/
[01:20] <ivoks> ok, i'll upload some photos for you :)
[01:20] <Nafallo> only one ISP in Sweden does that to my knowledge, and that's the one that belonged to the state earlier. they really, really, really, really does suck a lot :-). my father had them when I lived at my parents.
[01:20] <Treenaks> Nafallo: www.xs4all.nl :)
[01:20] <Treenaks> Nafallo: should be understandable for Swedes :)
[01:20] <Nafallo> baah, I need .se ;-)
[01:20] <Nafallo> atleast to change to them ;-)
[01:21] <Treenaks> Nafallo: they offer dialup accounts
[01:21] <Treenaks> Nafallo: ;)
[01:21] <Nafallo> baah
[01:22] <Nafallo> hmm, maybe the eight torrents I have running explains why it's a bit slow atm ;-)
[01:22] <Treenaks> :P
[01:24] <Nafallo> btw, I have a project from someone ;-)
[01:24] <Nafallo> convert torrentflux from php to python ;-)
[01:36] <ivoks> Nafallo: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/summer2005/img009.jpeg
[01:36] <Nafallo> I prefer bigger boobs ;-)
[01:37] <ivoks> :)
[01:37] <ivoks> i'm still uploading photos :)
[01:38] <ivoks> http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/summer2005/img001.jpeg.html - mom from chezh :)
[01:40] <Lathiat> haha ivoks
[01:42] <\sh> ivoks: damnit...u r making me horny ,-)
[01:42] <ivoks> :)
[01:42] <\sh> em...your pictures
[01:42] <\sh> lol
[01:42] <ivoks> i? :))
[01:42] <\sh> ivoks: the girls
[01:42] <ivoks> hehe
[01:42] <\sh> damn..I should write
[01:43] <ivoks> best photos are still to be uploaded :)
[01:44] <ivoks> those from night life :)
[01:44] <Nafallo> hehe
[01:44] <pef> I have a problem with the path of a desktop file
[01:44] <Nafallo> ivoks: cute cats :-)
[01:45] <ivoks> yeah...
[01:45] <pef> what's the status of /usr/share/applnk ? is it needed by something ?
[01:45] <\sh> sometimes from kde
[01:46] <ivoks> gthumb is great app :)
[01:46] <Lathiat> wtf i just X forwarded soemthing off another box
[01:46] <Nafallo> indeed
[01:46] <Lathiat> and all the pixmaps are messed up
[01:46] <Lathiat> anyway that could be breezys fault?
[01:47] <Lathiat> hrm worked for the gimp, eog must be broken
[01:53] <ivoks> Nafallo: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/summer2005/img056.jpeg.html
[01:55] <ivoks> \sh: check out that girl with black hair :) http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/summer2005/img065.jpeg.html
[01:56] <\sh> ivoks: go away ,-)
[01:56] <Nafallo> looks Swedish ;-)
[01:56] <ivoks> lol
[01:56] <sistpoty> hi folks
[01:56] <\sh> hey sistpoty
[01:56] <ivoks> hello
[01:56] <Nafallo> morning sistpoty :-)
[01:56] <ivoks> Nafallo: there is nothing swedish in her :)
[01:57] <Nafallo> ivoks: except the looks ;-)
[01:57] <ivoks> hm, i'll upload them again, but without resizing :)
[01:57] <ivoks> Nafallo: nope :)
[01:57] <ivoks> this blond one... she's obviusly from chech republic or poland :)
[02:01] <Nafallo> to me, any of those girls could have been from Sweden ;-)
[02:01] <ivoks> :))
[02:01] <Nafallo> hmm, maybe I should make \sh drool ;-)
[02:01] <Nafallo> \sh: http://www.heartland.nu/~nafallo/elin/
[02:01] <Nafallo> :-)
[02:02] <\sh> did I say, I'm single?
[02:02] <\sh> and did I say, that I had no *** for over 1 year now?
[02:03] <ivoks> :))
[02:03] <Nafallo> \sh: nope ;-) (some of this I knew anyway)
[02:03] <\sh> I think I have to catch one of those brasilian chicks walking on the streets in kerpen now
[02:03] <ivoks> \sh: go on vacation :)
[02:03] <\sh> and give them the spirit of god ,-)
[02:03] <\sh> lol
[02:03] <ivoks> i'm sure you'll get laid in croatia :)
[02:03] <\sh> Nafallo: nice one...:) btw.
[02:04] <Nafallo> \sh: one of my best friends :-)
[02:04] <\sh> ivoks: I don't want :)
[02:04] <ivoks> :>
[02:04] <\sh> ivoks: I'm waiting for my girl :) u see..I'm older and I don't want to do mistakes anymore :)
[02:05] <ivoks> \sh: listen...
[02:05] <ivoks> i didn't want anything seriuos this summer
[02:05] <\sh> so..no *** without a marriage
[02:06] <ivoks> but after 2-3 days haning out with this girl, i realized she's great :)
[02:06] <ivoks> and we started with a "hi" "hi" "let's have ***"
[02:06] <ivoks> so... you never know...
[02:07] <\sh> oh well...I'm refusing to think about those actions..;)
[02:07] <ivoks> Nafallo: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/summer2005/img095.jpeg.small.jpeg
[02:07] <ivoks> well, guys... this is me :)
[02:07] <ivoks> http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/summer2005/img089.jpeg.html
[02:07] <ivoks> the one in the shirt :)
[02:08] <\sh> both are nice ;)
[02:08] <ivoks> lol
[02:08] <siretart> hehe
[02:08] <siretart> hi ivoks!
[02:08] <ivoks> both are straight :)
[02:08] <ivoks> siretart: hi
[02:09] <\sh> ivoks: u should think about going both ways *rotfl*
[02:09] <ivoks> :))
[02:09] <ivoks> no, i'm fine with 3vs1 (where 1 is one man) :)
[02:09] <\sh> now we're completly OT
[02:09] <ivoks> \sh: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/summer2005/img096.jpeg.html - drool :)
[02:10] <\sh> ah come one
[02:10] <ivoks> we aren't offtopic
[02:10] <Nafallo> http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/summer2005/img102.jpeg.html :-)
[02:11] <ivoks> this pictures are uploaded with ubuntu, and web album is created with gthumb :)
[02:11] <Nafallo> ivoks: is there another way to do it? :-)
[02:11] <sistpoty> cya later
[02:12] <ivoks> finally my modem works too :)
[02:12] <ivoks> lspci told me it's smartlink, so i got my self smartlink drivers
[02:12] <ivoks> and, as i said, everything worked, but ATDT and ATDP
[02:12] <ivoks> now... i tried lspci -vvv
[02:13] <ivoks> and check out that crap - it's conexant :)
[02:13] <Nafallo> ivoks: you can package those i386/amd64 drivers for us :-)
[02:13] <ivoks> Nafallo: i use conexant drivers now
[02:14] <Nafallo> hmm, oki
[02:14] <ivoks> acctually, i install them when i need, and deinstall them after - i get kernel panic with that module loaded
[02:15] <\sh> it's bad, that my quickcam is not working on linux
[02:16] <ivoks> Nafallo: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/summer2005/img114.jpeg.html
[02:25] <siretart> Mez: ping
[02:27] <siretart> Mez: if you are at it, can you please make proftpd backported?
[02:27] <siretart> Mez: there are some security issues fixed in the version in breezy, we had yesterday someone concerned about this
[02:27] <siretart> ok, now back to prepare-party-mode..
[02:48] <\sh> going to sleep at least 2 hours more...laters
[02:48] <Treenaks> I have a much beetter pic of Andrew! http://foodfight.org/fotos/2004/12-08%20Ubuntu%20Conference/?img_0001.jpg ;)
[02:48] <Treenaks> (re: planet ubuntu)
[03:43] <tseng> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=414&slide=8
[03:43] <tseng> im reminded of how ugly this start page is
[03:43] <tseng> is someone hacking a new one?
[03:57] <sedak> hello motus !
[03:57] <sedak> anyone interested in reviewing my package ?
[03:57] <sedak> it'll be much fun ...
[03:57] <sedak> http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=441
[03:58] <dsas> can someone let me know the approximate final date for having a package included in breezy?
[03:58] <sedak> it's a kernel driver, so it'll be better if you had the device
[03:58] <sedak> no idea
[07:25] <alisher> hallo, I have a question, is there any possibility to get Gajim jabber client into Universe?
[07:25] <alisher> there is already the package in the debian repositories
[07:25] <alisher> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/gajim
[07:29] <\sh> alisher: did u read the debian bts?
[07:29] <\sh> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=gajim
[07:33] <hubW> perhaps someone should volunteer to fix it
[07:33] <hubW> like alisher :-)
[07:34] <tseng> it looks pretty nice
[07:34] <\sh> yes..
[07:34] <\sh> I tried it the last time.
[07:34] <\sh> it build nicely...but running no
[07:35] <\sh> tseng: u fixed the amd64/ppc ftbfs  as well for mythtv? ,-)
[07:35] <tseng> no
[07:35] <tseng> i have no ppc nor amd64
[07:36] <\sh> tseng: i tried 0.18.1 it ftbfs at the same line on amd64
[07:36] <\sh> tseng: but mdz told me, that upstream has a amd64 now, and the issues will go in a while ,-)
[07:37] <tseng> ok
[07:37] <tseng> i wonder if mdz will work on the plugins
[07:37] <\sh> why? we will do it ,-)
[07:37] <\sh> it's universe ,-)
[07:37] <tseng> its a new upstream release
[07:37] <tseng> and needs to be completely repackaged
[07:38] <tseng> he is the maintainer
[07:38] <\sh> tseng: not now...for breezy+1 eventually
[07:38] <tseng> well then the plugins wont work
[07:38] <tseng> in breezy
[07:38] <\sh> for i386?
[07:38] <tseng> for anyone
[07:38] <tseng> they are for 0.17
[07:38] <\sh> i386 mythtv wrks
[07:38] <\sh> args
[07:39] <tseng> 0.18 makes all the plugins one source package
[07:39] <tseng> needs to be repacked
[07:39] <tseng> and remove all the old sources
[07:40] <tseng> the ppc log is nice
[07:40] <tseng> {standard input}:3378: Error: Unrecognized opcode: `emms'
[07:40] <tseng> i wonder how it managed that
[07:40] <\sh> yeah...and amd64 is much nicer
[07:41] <tseng> oh its using ccache still too
[07:41] <\sh> it's correct
[07:41] <\sh> and it's ok
[07:41] <tseng> {standard input}:15149: Error: bad register name `%'
[07:41] <tseng> ooh.
[07:41] <tseng> shiny.
[07:42] <\sh> and for 0.18.1 the same error
[07:42] <tseng> so this thing is full of x86 assembly?
[07:42] <tseng> or something
[07:43] <\sh> sure
[07:43] <\sh> libavcodec
[08:39] <\sh> Nafallo: pingeling
[08:41] <\sh> hmmm..does anybody has problems with firefox after libcairo2 update?
[08:41] <\sh> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13881
[08:47] <\sh> gajim is running on breezy
[09:07] <sedak> no problem with firefox+new libcairo2
[09:07] <\sh> hmmm
[09:08] <\sh> which version? i have 1.0.6-1ubuntu7
[09:08] <Nafallo> \sh: yes honey? :-)
[09:09] <\sh> Nafallo: do some mockups for a good shtoom gnome frontend pls ,-)
[09:09] <Nafallo> \sh: dude. feature freeze ;-)
[09:09] <sedak> 1.0.6-1ubuntu7 too
[09:11] <\sh> Nafallo: for breezy+
[09:11] <\sh> 1
[09:12] <Nafallo> sure, but not now :-). have to clean up in here + rabbit's cage
[09:12] <Nafallo> and that probably means bbl as well ;-)
[09:13] <\sh> Nafallo: and join #shtoom :) lowtraffic, but quit interessting ,-)
[09:14] <\sh> Nafallo: we will rock
[09:46] <comadreja> hey \sh
[10:13] <JanC> \sh, when is gajim going to be available in breezy?
[10:15] <\sh> I just repackaged 0.8 and have to adjust some things
[10:15] <\sh> debian has 0.7*
[10:15] <\sh> and 0.8 is much better
[10:17] <\sh> and it's a good start for a combination of jabber and SIP
[10:18] <JanC> how does it use SIP ?
[10:19] <\sh> JanC: via shtoom integration...
[10:19] <\sh> I  want to have a client which is capable of sharing the roster
[10:19] <\sh> SIP Express Router can handle this as well...
[10:19] <JanC> oh, nice, even if I don't have a headset or microphone  :)
[10:20] <\sh> JanC: SER has a jabber module..so u can use the SIP contact as jabber contact
[10:20] <\sh> (the SIP server needs to have a jabber installed as well)
[10:25] <JanC> uhu, I read "SIMPLE2Jabber gateway" on their homepage
[10:25] <\sh> yepp
[10:25] <JanC> SIMPLE is the SIP based IM protocol IBM uses IIRC ?
[10:25] <\sh> no
[10:26] <\sh> SIMPLE is the standard of aim/irc
[10:26] <\sh> s/irc/icq/
[10:26] <JanC> I thought that was "OSCAR" ?
[10:26] <\sh> it's also called simple ;)
[10:26] <\sh> or yahoo or whatever
[10:26] <\sh> doesn't interessed me ;)
[10:29] <\sh> http://www.acmqueue.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=93&page=2
[10:29] <\sh> 3
[10:29] <\sh> grmpf
[10:30] <JanC> so Microsoft is going to use SIMPLE ?
[10:30] <\sh> something like this
[10:31] <\sh> and SIP is using it
[10:31] <JanC> ah, and like I thought: IBM Lotus Sametime supports SIMPLE  :)
[10:34] <\sh> but IBM supports as well jabber
[10:40] <JanC> typical for IBM  :)
[10:41] <JanC> they also support Windows & Linux & AIX & ...
[10:56] <hub> JanC: they don't support linux. you can't buy a laptop without Windows
[10:56] <hub> JanC: so that's bullshit they support linux
[10:56] <JanC> ibm doesn't sell laptops...
[10:56] <JanC> (anymore)
[10:56] <hub> they do
[10:56] <hub> they still do
[10:56] <hub> they also sell Notes
[10:56] <hub> it does not have a Linux client
[10:57] <hub> whatever quality or lack thereof the product has
[10:57] <JanC> and they don't have a windows version of "ibm web server"
[10:57] <hub> http://www-131.ibm.com/content/home/store_LNV_PublicUSA/en_US/ad.html
[10:57] <JanC> (which is based on apache btw)
[10:57] <hub> and they don't sell laptops ?
[10:58] <JanC> ibm laptops are now sold by lenovo, who can use the ibm brand name for some years...
[11:13] <Yagisan> G'day All


[01:31] <jared> jea: apparently a lot of others noticed as well, every page is is currently taking at least 2 refreshes due to time outs :/
[01:32] <jea> that site does go a lot slower recently
[01:32] <jared> I assume it is all the setup for the next version
[01:32] <jea> New launchpad?
[01:33] <jared> Nah trusty
[01:46] <jared> Well that's the first page done.


[01:45] <mdeslaur> micahg: no, I'm not doing the rhythmbox-radio-plugin update...you can have it if you want
[01:54] <micahg> mdeslaur: k, thanks
[13:30] <jdstrand> micahg: re mountinfo> it seemed firefox 4.0 specific. is it affecting 3.6?
[13:43] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, what's this?
[13:43] <chrisccoulson> (your last comment)
[14:00] <fta> dpm, hi. http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/translations/
[14:01] <fta> dpm, to illustrate what i said yesterday, compare the html output for trunk and stable
[14:01] <dpm> hi fta, looking...
[14:04] <dpm> fta, what should I see there? I see that stable has gotten many string fixes from Launchpad translators, coming from trunk. Is that what you wanted to illustrate, or am I missing any bits?
[14:05] <fta> dpm, that's it.
[14:05] <dpm> ok, cool :)
[14:07] <dpm> wow, we've got lots of languages working on them already, even before any announcement :)
[14:08] <fta> just 5
[14:09] <fta> de es et fi pt_BR
[14:10] <fta> now that lp got the fix, i need the next export and see if it helped
[14:24] <dpm> I could see others, though: te, ar, sr, zh-CN, el, hu...
[14:27] <dpm> (I meant working on the chromium translations in LP)
[15:39] <chrisccoulson> does anybody actually maintain mozvoikko upstream?
[15:40] <chrisccoulson> it's getting more and more of a pain for us to keep it working
[18:26] <micahg> jdstrand: well, we have an apparmor profile for 4.0 as well, also 4.1 will probably end up in Maverick and Lucid, so we should probably keep the apparmor profiles up to date for them as well
[18:35] <micahg> chrisccoulson: for mozjs build deps, we still need xulrunner-dev, right?
[19:09] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, we do. i didn't see the point in splitting that for now
[19:10] <micahg> chrisccoulson: the only point I can see if a provildes libmozjs-dev on xulrunner-2.0-mozjs-dev if we create it
[19:10] <micahg> s/if/is/g
[19:33] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, i've got no idea if mozvoikko is working or not
[19:33] <chrisccoulson> it loads, and firefox doesn't crash, which is a good sign
[19:33] <chrisccoulson> but i've got no idea how to test it
[19:34] <micahg> chrisccoulson: maybe ask the Debian maintainer
[19:46]  * gnomefreak crosses fingers
[19:47] <gnomefreak> yay!!!! its fixed, thanks
[19:47] <gnomefreak> although software-center is still borked
[20:29] <gnomefreak> ok xulrunner20 is still not configureing please see bug 671394 for more info
[20:29] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 671394 in xulrunner-2.0 (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Xulrunner-1.9.2 and xulrunner-2.0 stall out on configuring (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/671394
[21:19] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur, we're updating lucid to thunderbird 3.1 on december 9th, i'm not sure if you want to help out testing that :)
[21:20] <gnomefreak> i know it is a holiday in USA but fta, you gave me a command a while ago to build a playlist. any chance you can give it to me again
[21:20] <chrisccoulson> the lucid update (along with language pack etc) is already in the ubuntu-mozilla-security PPA
[21:20] <gnomefreak> i think xulrunner just got fixed
[21:20] <fta> gnomefreak, i'm not in the US ;) i'm french
[21:20] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: I won't have time this week, but I can give a hand with testing next week
[21:21] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur, thanks, that would be great
[21:21] <gnomefreak> ah
[21:21] <fta> gnomefreak, playlist for what?
[21:21] <gnomefreak> fta: music
[21:21] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur, we especially need to test the hardy -> lucid upgrade case
[21:21] <chrisccoulson> i shall hopefully set aside some time to test that next week too
[21:21] <fta> gnomefreak, it's usually as simple as "ls *.mp3 > playlist.m3u"
[21:22] <fta> gnomefreak, but depends on what you need
[21:22] <gnomefreak> playlist.m3u is the name?
[21:22] <gnomefreak> it seems it is ls
[21:22] <gnomefreak> opps
[21:23] <gnomefreak> i will try it, thanks
[21:23] <gnomefreak> m3u is weird to me
[21:25] <gnomefreak> fta: gnomefreak@Development:~$ ls *.mp3 > master-playlist.m3u
[21:25] <gnomefreak> ls: cannot access *.mp3: No such file or directory
[21:27] <fta> gnomefreak, as i said, it's specific to your file hierarchy. "find . -name \*.mp3 -print > master-playlist.m3u" should work, but could be huge if you have a lot of files
[21:28] <gnomefreak> there are alot of files
[21:28] <fta> gnomefreak, why do you need that? most players don't need a playlist, they have their own database
[21:29] <gnomefreak> fta: to add all music instead of adding per file/dir
[21:29] <fta> gnomefreak, add to what?
[21:29] <gnomefreak> fta: music player
[21:30] <fta> gnomefreak, which one? most have a way to track a music folder automatically
[21:30] <fta> so you never need to do that manually, just put your files in that dir
[21:30] <gnomefreak> oh


[03:41] <micahg> Rhonda: feel free to request a backport from trusty to precise to update precise-backports, I can process it once it's tested
[03:41] <micahg> for wesnoth-1.10
[05:25] <Rhonda> micahg: For those I'll have to check the font package renaming thing, but yeah.
[05:26] <Rhonda> Wait.
[05:27] <Rhonda> micahg: No need, there is the fixed version which went in through SRU?
[05:27] <Rhonda> Or do you mean 1.12?
[05:29] <micahg> 1.10.5 is in backports
[05:30] <micahg> if someone does the run tests, I can backport 1.10.7 from trusty-updates with the patches
[05:30] <Rhonda> Hmm. Why don't I see it on packages.ubuntu.com/wesnoth-1.10?
[05:30] <micahg> does that have backports?
[05:31] <Rhonda> See packages.ubuntu.com/wesnoth-1.12
[05:31] <Rhonda> Maybe I fumbled and don't display precise-backports …  >.>
[05:31] <Rhonda> I'll check later then.
[05:31] <micahg> oh, haha, source only, weird
[05:32] <Rhonda> uh?
[05:32] <micahg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wesnoth-1.10/1:1.10.5-1~ubuntu12.04.1
[05:32] <micahg> I'm at a loss, haven't seen that
[05:33] <micahg> *before
[05:33] <Rhonda> Do we have a new codename now?
[05:35] <micahg> I haven't seen one yet
[05:37] <Unit193> Nope.
[07:11] <dholbach> good morning


[00:03] <mikubuntu> knome, my sis did sudo apt-get install openssh-server in the terminal does she need to restart or anything
[00:08] <mikubuntu> knome must be busy, is anyone else avail to help me access my sister's computer?  she installed openssh-server from terminal just now.
[00:08] <mikubuntu> hola, cody-somerville
[00:19] <mikubuntu> knome, you there?
[00:19] <knome> yup
[00:23] <mikubuntu> knome, oops, din't see you  .. ok i installed the openssh-server on her computer and my computer, what do i do next to connect
[00:23] <knome> mikubuntu, 'ssh her_username@her_ip' on terminal
[00:24] <mikubuntu> i tried that and i got 'bash: no such command' or something similar
[00:24] <knome> without the quotes?
[00:25] <mikubuntu> yes like    sshmikubuntu@http://44.394.283  except i used her username and ip address
[00:25] <knome> no
[00:26] <mikubuntu> what'd i do wrong
[00:26] <knome> ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:26] <knome> no http
[00:26] <mikubuntu> aaaaaaaahhhhh .. ok, but that will just give me terminal access?
[00:26] <knome> yes
[00:26] <mikubuntu> how was it you said to get to gui view?
[00:27] <knome> when you get the terminal access, you can type a command to get gui access
[00:29] <mikubuntu> knome, i get     ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection timed out
[00:33] <mikubuntu> dang.  just got a call have to run out.  gnna leave this open, if you have any pointers i'll come back an look soon as i get home .. thank for all your help so far
[00:33] <knome> change <IP_ADDRESS> with her ip
[01:04] <fvs> hi - trying to install VBoxLinuxAdditions but getting a "your system does not seem to be set up to build kernel modules" Any quick fix?
[01:07] <fvs> Found fix: sudo apt-get install build-essential  linux-headers-generic
[02:11] <alesio> i'm new with xubuntu and i can't connect neither to hotmail or msn. i've tried with amsn and pidgin to acces my msn account, and firefox and chromium for hotmail, none of them worked. could anyone help me, please?
[02:17] <alesio> i think it has to do with the connection to the server. i need help, please
[02:30] <ochosi> alesio: not sure anyone will be able to help you with that
[02:30] <ochosi> if your internet is working i don't see any reason why firefox wouldn't display hotmail
[03:43] <Keith> wondering if someone can help me?
[05:35] <lake> I'm experiencing a slightly annoying problem. I have a panel with a launcher for terminal. When the launcher is clicked, terminal opens. However, terminal does not have focus, meaning when I type, text does not show up in terminal.
[05:35] <lake> This happens with firefox as well
[05:41] <lake> Ah, there's a "Focus and Raise" behavior setting in Compiz Config
[05:41] <lake> Woot
[06:15] <mad_ady> hello campers :)
[06:16] <mad_ady> got a problem with nm-applet which doesn't show in my notification area
[06:16] <mad_ady> but the applet itself is running, just not displaying anything anywhere on the screen
[06:16] <mad_ady> any tips on how to start debugging?
[09:34] <tetek> hello everyone, i have got a problem with booting. I see a "starting up..." and than acer-wmi : no or not supported, how can I hide this message because all acer api works fine for me. Next how can i choose te booting image, is it xsplash or usplash in xubuntu? As far as I remember it is not working on my laptop because I wasn't using 'quiet' in grub. Can someone help me?
[09:43] <tetek> anybody?
[10:33] <pteague> i love amarok2, it's just the awesomest dude... can we take it out back & shoot it to put it out of my misery?
[10:39] <xubuntu685> jkjkjkjk
[10:40] <xubuntu685> ololo blya
[17:31] <xubuntu566> why don't my serial mouse work? :(
[17:41] <siddhion> is anyone available?
[17:45] <charlie-tca> xubuntu566: did you set up the serial port?
[17:45] <charlie-tca> siddhion: yes,
[17:45] <charlie-tca> !anyone | siddhion
[17:47] <xubuntu566> no, i have not set it up. how do i do that?
[17:48] <charlie-tca> !serial
[17:49] <charlie-tca> xubuntu566: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[17:51] <xubuntu566> thank you, i will look at that :)
[17:55] <mikubuntu> knome, any chance you have some time to take me to the next level on the remote access issue?  i installed open ssh-server on my sis computer, but when i tried the command you gave me yestereday, ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>i couldn not gain access
[17:56] <mikubuntu> got a 'connection timed out port:20' or similar
[18:00] <mikubuntu> ochosi, you seemd to know about this ssh stuff, could you possibly help me?
[18:01] <knome> mikubuntu, switch <IP_ADDRESS> with her username
[18:01] <knome> i mean
[18:01] <knome> her ip
[18:01] <knome> mikubuntu, and "her_username" with her user name
[18:03] <mikubuntu> knome, yes i did that
[18:03] <mikubuntu> but i got the connection timed out port:20
[18:04] <ochosi> isn't ssh usually using port 22ß
[18:04] <ochosi> ?
[18:04] <ochosi> or did you manually set it to port 20
[18:05] <mikubuntu> oops, just tried again, yes its 22, sry
[18:06] <mikubuntu> still timing out, not connecting
[18:07] <mikubuntu> i don't understand how it would connect without a password?
[18:07] <mikubuntu> i can't believe it would be that easy to access someones computer
[18:10] <mikubuntu> yesterday, you mentioned this command, which i never used, cause i din't know if it was for my computer or my sisters (the remote) computer  x11vnc -safer -accept -once -display :0
[18:11] <ochosi> without a password you can never connect to any remote computer
[18:11] <ochosi> that would be madness
[18:12] <ochosi> mikubuntu: have you set up the ssh server on your sisters computer correctly?
[18:12] <mikubuntu> but that connection command doesn't have any password
[18:12] <mikubuntu> i think so i installed via terminal with sudo yesterday
[18:13] <ochosi> you will be asked for the password as soon as your computer establishes the ssh-connection
[18:14] <mikubuntu> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[18:14] <mikubuntu> ok, so it is still not connecting
[18:14] <mikubuntu> cause it never prompts for pwrd
[18:14] <ochosi> exactly
[18:15] <mikubuntu> it goes about 17 blinks of the cursor, and times out
[18:15] <ochosi> is your sister behind a router?
[18:16] <mikubuntu> you mean as opposed to just a modem?  i can't remember.
[18:16] <ochosi> if so: have you set up port forwarding in the router's setup?
[18:16] <ochosi> yes, as opposed to just a modem
[18:16] <ochosi> that's crucial
[18:16] <mikubuntu> what do i need to know about the router
[18:16] <ochosi> the login :)
[18:16] <ochosi> i assume you can't remotely access it
[18:17] <mikubuntu> i can call her
[18:17] <ochosi> unless that feature has been turned on (which i don't strongly advise you to)
[18:17] <ochosi> and then you have to change the port-forwarding settings
[18:17] <ochosi> add a service that forwards all calls on port 22 to her lan-ip
[18:17] <mikubuntu> your next to last statement not clear to me .. ?
[18:17] <ochosi> but anyways, i would strongly advise you to pick a different port
[18:18] <ochosi> changing the port-forwarding settings?
[18:18] <ochosi> what exactly isn't clear?
[18:18] <mikubuntu> ya, you said 'i don't strongly advise you to'
[18:18] <ochosi> yes, remote access to a router is not as safe as ssh
[18:19] <ochosi> it's better if you configure the router from the lan
[18:19] <mikubuntu> have her config the router on her end, you mean
[18:19] <ochosi> if you want to change the ssh port, look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html
[18:19] <ochosi> exactly
[18:20] <mikubuntu> i've got about 11 mins till she can get on the computer
[18:20] <ochosi> mikubuntu: sry, g2g now, but i would assume that you know all the hints now, the web can help you with the rest ;)
[18:20] <mikubuntu> thanks ochosi
[18:20] <ochosi> np, yw
[18:20] <mikubuntu> don't overestimate my skills
[18:20] <mikubuntu> haha
[18:25] <mikubuntu> omg.  i knew i couldn't fly solo on this ... i installed open ssh-server on mine, and the target remote computer, but i din't install     sudo apt-get install openssh-client    which is shown on the  page https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html
[18:28] <mikubuntu> but i really need help doing this i think, it's kind of over my head
[18:29] <mikubuntu> gnna take a smoke break
[20:09] <mikubuntu> knome, or anyone have some time to help me setting up an ssh connection to my sister's computer?  i'm in over my head.
[20:10] <knome> mikubuntu, i'm here
[20:10] <mikubuntu> i have installed ssh-server on both mine and her computer, but when i try to access it times out b4 ever connecting
[20:10] <knome> mikubuntu, what's her username?
[20:10] <mikubuntu> knome, hey whatup
[20:10] <mikubuntu> dacheli
[20:10] <knome> okay
[20:11] <knome> then what's her ip's first number?
[20:13] <mikubuntu> 7, sorry my firefox running real slow had to check my email again for her ip
[20:13] <knome> okay, so then type in the terminal "ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>rest of the ip]'
[20:14] <mikubuntu> i did that many times but i get a connection timed out message, and it never asks me for password so i guess its not connecting
[20:15] <knome> then i suppose there is a firewall between you two
[20:15] <Sysi> you're connecting over internet?
[20:16] <mikubuntu> thats where i think i am prolly having the problem, but i not sure of steps to fix i looking at this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC but i just more confused
[20:17] <charlie-tca> try pinging the ip address and see what you get
[20:17] <Sysi> i wonder if you have NAT also somewhere
[20:18] <mikubuntu> charlie-tca: ok, how :) ?
[20:18] <charlie-tca> in terminal, ping 7.?????
[20:18] <charlie-tca> Use CTRL+C to stop it
[20:18] <mikubuntu> ok, just ping and the address (without http://)
[20:19] <charlie-tca> right, or you can use ping -c 4 7.?.?.?
[20:19] <charlie-tca> and it will ping 4 times
[20:20] <charlie-tca> That will tell if the address is even valid
[20:21] <mikubuntu> 25 packets transmitted, 25 received, 0% packet loss, time 24030ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 36.447/46.948/216.067/34.542 ms
[20:21] <charlie-tca> okay, that's a start
[20:21] <knome> charlie-tca, i'm suspecting a firewll blocking the ssh port
[20:21] <mikubuntu> does that indicate if firewall or not?
[20:21] <charlie-tca> Now the big question
[20:22] <charlie-tca> does she have a /etc/hosts, /etc/hosts.deny, or /etc/hosts.allow files blocking anything?
[20:23] <charlie-tca> Most of the firewall setups automatically block pings now
[20:24] <mikubuntu> omg.  she's more of a dummy than i,  so asking that question of her won't get me anywhere .. if anything i can instruct her to do some copy/pasting into a terminal
[20:24] <charlie-tca> hmmm, well, I am out of ideas
[20:24] <mikubuntu> thats why i need access to the machine, to manage her updates, software installs etc
[20:25] <mikubuntu> you suggest that there is no firewall charlie-tca ?
[20:25] <charlie-tca> I am thinking the router setup
[20:26] <charlie-tca> ochosi mentioned it earlier
[20:26] <mikubuntu> is that something you guys can help me with, i can get her on the phone
[20:26] <mikubuntu> yes, he did
[20:26] <charlie-tca> I can't help with it
[20:27] <mikubuntu> so i googled :: http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ubuntu+configure+router+for+ssh&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[20:27] <charlie-tca> maybe if ochosi is still around?
[20:27] <mikubuntu> and the more i read, the less i know
[20:27] <charlie-tca> heh
[20:27] <charlie-tca> me too! what a deal, huh?
[20:27] <mikubuntu> hahaha
[20:28] <charlie-tca> knome: how to test for the firewall vs router settings?
[20:29] <Sysi> traceroute for ping or something?
[20:29] <charlie-tca> I don't how to do it
[20:31] <mikubuntu> it's such a powerful tool, it would be great if it was more plug and play .. but i guess it has a lot of negative potential also
[20:31] <mikubuntu> altho we don't keep too many national security issues on our home computers
[20:32] <mikubuntu> not *that* concerned about security really
[20:32] <charlie-tca> unfortunately, there is also the home user bank accounts
[20:33] <mikubuntu> well, yeah
[20:33] <mikubuntu> forgot about that
[20:33] <mikubuntu> haha
[20:34] <mikubuntu> some bad guy could clean out my bank account, and i'd be out $2.
[20:34] <charlie-tca> and anything else you ever deposit
[20:36] <charlie-tca> knome, Sysi : does the /etc/sshd_config file need to have the ip address in ListenAddress?
[20:37] <Sysi> no?
[20:45] <knome> charlie-tca, no
[20:45]  * charlie-tca glad he did not suggest that, then
[20:54] <siddhion> hello. i was wondering if anyone ever experienced extremely slow (or broken) connection only with browsers such as Chrome and Firefox but healthy connection speeds with apps like Xchat, Transmission and Update Manager...and if you were able to solve that issue.
[21:10] <siddhion> does anyone know about the slow browser problem in Xubuntu 10.04?
[21:33] <TheSheep> siddhion: I'd check if you use the right dns server
[21:33] <TheSheep> siddhion: maybe that is slow
[21:36] <Ritchie_1> hello
[21:37] <Ritchie_1> anyone here?
[21:37] <Sysi> !ask | Ritchie_1
[21:37] <Ritchie_1> ok then :)
[21:38] <Ritchie_1> so is it very difficult to build a driver from source code under xubuntu for wireless card?
[21:38] <TheSheep> usually it's not needed
[21:39] <Ritchie_1> I don't know why but driver support for my wifi card ceased from one of the kernels
[21:39] <S0210> I can't remove my pendrive since I have xubuntu 10.04. :-( It is being written all the time according to the info box. Can I check somehow what application is gripping the pendrive?
[21:39] <TheSheep> S0210: yes, with the 'lsof | grep /media'
[21:40] <Ritchie_1> why do they take drivers out from the kernel? I can't understand why does it have any sense
[21:40] <TheSheep> S0210: in terminal
[21:40] <Ritchie_1> except from annoying me
[21:40] <TheSheep> Ritchie_1: are you sure they have been removed? maybe they just have different defaults and changing some module loading options would fix it?
[21:40] <TheSheep> Ritchie_1: I would search the forums for your wifi model name
[21:40] <Ritchie_1> how do I do it?
[21:41] <Ritchie_1> all the forums are about a sourceforge driver
[21:41] <Ritchie_1> that is quite old
[21:41] <Ritchie_1> and I have no clue how to install it
[21:41] <Ritchie_1> to tell you the truth I would not really waste my time with that as wel
[21:42] <TheSheep> most of the time somebody already found the solution and described it
[21:42] <TheSheep> you may also check on #ubuntu, it's the same driver-wise
[21:42] <Ritchie_1> it has some atmel chipset
[21:43] <Ritchie_1> isn't really important right now, but..
[21:43] <Ritchie_1> I was just wondering if you knew something about the basis, on which they decide that drivers shouldn't be included in the new kernels
[21:44] <S0210> TheSheep: it says Thunar is responsible for it. And it's true: after killing the not-seeable-but-running Thunar I can remove the pendrive easily. Might be a bug to be reported? {:-.
[21:45] <Ritchie_1> it is also interesting by the way, that the first time I installed ubuntu, there was also a problem with not recognising the devie, but then I had to install it again and the device worked fine..
[21:46] <TheSheep> S0210: yeah, it may be some stuck thumbnailer or somehting
[21:47] <siddhion> TheSheep: sorry i was not here. how to check my DNS server?
[21:47] <TheSheep> Ritchie_1: did you try to run system->hardware drivers?
[21:47] <S0210> TheSheep: thank you!
[21:47] <TheSheep> siddhion: it's configured, usually automatically from dhcp, in /etc/resolv.conf
[21:48] <siddhion> TheSheep: i am a newbeginner so I dont know how to do that. can you guide me?
[21:49] <Ritchie_1> TheSheep: 'no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[21:49] <Ritchie_1> is the message I get in Hardware Drivers
[21:50] <Ritchie_1> annoying indeed
[21:52] <TheSheep> siddhion: you can just navigate to that file with thunar and open it as text file, or you can open the terminal and type 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'
[22:01] <siddhion> TheSheep: it says "bash: cat/etc/resolve.conf: No such file or directory"
[22:05] <Ritchie_1> in the ubuntu room people are not really helpful
[22:05] <siddhion> TheSheep: never mind I added a space between cat and /
[22:07] <siddhion> Ritchie_1: sometimes they are, sometimes not....earlier I got no help but now I am getting some.
[22:08] <Ritchie_1> should I start watching a film then and post my question later? :D
[22:09] <Ritchie_1> at least this function was not removed from xubuntu
[22:09] <Ritchie_1> yet
[22:38] <FotherMucker> Hello anyone?
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[22:45] <MalkavianManiac> !hi FotherMucker
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[22:46] <FotherMucker> !hi MalkavianManiac
[22:46] <FotherMucker> :|
[22:46] <MalkavianManiac> dont worry about it
[22:46] <FotherMucker> This is a weird bot
[22:46] <FotherMucker> But hi anyway x]
[22:46] <MalkavianManiac> are you in need of any assistance?
[22:47] <FotherMucker> Not really, I just thought I was just looking for a channel where I could hang with fellow xubuntu users :)
[22:47] <MalkavianManiac> well, feel free to hang here
[22:48] <FotherMucker> Thank you :)
[22:48] <MalkavianManiac> you may also hang in #xubuntu-offtopic
[22:51] <FotherMucker> Sounds like a better room for me :P
[22:51] <MalkavianManiac> good morning gnomefreak
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[23:06] <gnomefreak> n/win 1


[07:57] <Laney> SWEETSHARK!
[11:59] <larsu> mitya57: not sure I like your new-gnome-terminal branch - that would be the 4th tab style in ubuntu
[11:59] <larsu> firefox, chromium, gtk apps all look different
[12:00] <larsu> I'd be fine with having a style for all notebooks that looks like the one firefox has
[12:00] <larsu> dark inactive tabs and light active ones, but that's not possible right now because of some gtk bugs
[14:25] <alf_> desrt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1323317
[14:26] <desrt> alf_: thx :D
[15:59] <Laney>    2   + May 26 Launchpad Build (0.8K) [Build #6042579] i386 build of libreoffice 1:4.2.3~rc3-0ubuntu4 in ubuntu utopic PROPOSED
[16:00] <Laney> sad trombone
[23:48] <YokoZar> If I'm getting 3 login prompts every time I come back from a lock screen, is that a problem in unity, unity-greeter, or lightdm?


[12:54] <red98> Today, I solved the problem of broadcom bluetooth hardware(I am able to listen to music by bluetooth connectivity now) by copying a file to /lib/firmware/brcm. I am confused by what actually happened. I read on the internet that firmware is a software that usually ships with the device itself stored in the ROM. So, what actually happened when I
[12:54] <red98> copied the file to a certain location in harddisk?


[01:19] <grilled-cheese> If I’ve got a 12.10 box I need to run up to the latest LTS, is do-release-upgrade going to go straight to 14.04 or through all the in between releases one at a time
[01:25] <grilled-cheese> it looks like from /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades it will be on the normal path instead of lts
[01:26] <grilled-cheese> I assume if I change that to lts, it will stop at 14.04 instead of running all the way to 15.10
[01:42] <bradm> grilled-cheese: pretty sure you'll have to do it release by release.
[08:46] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:12] <jamespage> rbasak, morning - can I bring https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1517258 to your attention?
[10:12] <jamespage> rbasak, I think its something todo with the lxc version in the cloud-tools pocket for the cloud-archive
[10:14] <jamespage> cloud-tools is quite out-of-date - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/1.0.7-0ubuntu0.9 is the latest trusty version afaict
[10:18] <toMeloos> jamespage: could you tell me when the first maintenance release will happen for openstack liberty packages in the UCA?
[10:19] <toMeloos> Trying to get liberty running and there are some important bugfixes in the stable/liberty branches (mostly neutron and nova) that we really need!
[10:22] <jamespage> toMeloos, the plan was to track any point releases issued by the individual projects - I see neutron popped a 7.0.1 in the last 24 hrs, I'll findout what nova are going todo
[10:23] <jamespage> toMeloos, we might be able to squeeze an stable update in pre-christmas but given that mitaka b1 is also in progress right now, the packaging team might be streched to make that
[10:23] <jamespage> so most likely early Jan
[10:23] <jamespage> but I need to checkin with them first
[10:25] <toMeloos> that's too bad. nova for example has a serious regression which means ceph and libvirt won't work together. bugfix is merged, but waiting to be packaged...
[10:27] <toMeloos> and neutron seems to have a lot of L3 DVR and HA fixes as well
[10:28] <toMeloos> jamespage: can't building packages from point releases be automated by the way?
[10:29] <jamespage> toMeloos, well we can pick and high priority bugs earlier if need be
[10:29] <jamespage> toMeloos, like I said I need to catchup with coreycb and see what they have capacity for
[10:29] <jamespage> toMeloos, can you point me at what is hurting you?
[10:31] <toMeloos> jamespage: this one right now: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1508230
[10:33] <toMeloos> and as I'm sure you can understand getting liberty working is a work in progress, so I can't guarantee nothing else will pop up after getting past this hurdle...
[10:34] <jamespage> toMeloos, ack
[10:34] <jamespage> coreycb will be around in ~3 hrs or so
[10:44] <toMeloos> jamespage: I see about half a dozen bugfixes each for cinder, glance, nova and neutron. Slightly less for ceilometer, horizon and keystone. Haven't tested heat yet, but worried seeing that this list of merged patches contains a lot of bugfixes... https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+project:openstack/heat+branch:stable/liberty,n,z
[10:45] <toMeloos> I'll be around in ~ 3 hrs :-)
[10:54] <Voyage> in usually daemon configs, can I use more than one bind address to allow access to servers? e.g redid server?
[12:06] <rbasak> jamespage: for bug 1517258, what's enabling the cloud tools pocket on the Juju bootstrap node? Is that Juju itself doing it? It's been a while since I've had to care about that pocket!
[12:06] <jamespage> rbasak, I think its juju on 12.04 installs
[12:06] <jamespage> only...
[12:06] <jamespage> I think
[12:08] <rbasak> OK, so I think the bugfix is in precise-updates but agree it's missing from the precise/cloud-tools CA pocket if that's what you're saying?
[12:08] <rbasak> So we should push Trusty'x lxc back into precise/cloud-tools?
[13:31] <coreycb> toMeloos, jamespage, ceilometer and neutron are the only projects that have tagged point releases for liberty at this point.  nova doesn't have a point release out so the best we can do at this point is cherry pick patch(es).
[14:08] <rbasak> cpaelzer: do dpdk consumers currently have to specify which split DPDK libraries they should link with?
[14:30] <cpaelzer> rbasak: they can but don't have to IIRC
[14:30] <rbasak> What happens if they don't?
[14:31] <cpaelzer> rbasak: they can link against the linker script, the combined library, individual libraires or static build
[14:31] <cpaelzer> rbasak: depending which way they choose they have to specify subibs or not
[14:31] <cpaelzer> rbasak: static also being available as split or combined
[14:33] <rbasak> Let's ignore static, since the end result will be the same I think? I presume it's easiest for static to just follow what happens with shared.
[14:33] <cpaelzer> rbasak: yes
[14:33] <rbasak> Red Hat want the combined library out, right?
[14:34] <rbasak> Are they saying that the linker script should become unnecessary, or that the linker script should be used to end up with shared library dependencies on the split libraries?
[14:35] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I understood it as "linker script replaces combined library"
[14:35] <cpaelzer> rbasak: the linker script auto-refers to the individual libraries then
[14:35] <cpaelzer> rbasak: so the second part of your question IMO
[14:35] <cpaelzer> rbasak: "he linker script should be used to end up with shared library dependencies on the split libraries"
[14:36] <rbasak> If a library consumer uses the linker script to end up with shared library dependencies on the split libraries, will it end up with dependencies on just the set of libraries required or all of them?
[14:37] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I understood the mail discussion that he will only end up with those needed, btu I never seen it in action
[14:39] <toMeloos> coreycb: I can live with that, but is there any chance of a maintenance release in the very short term?
[14:40] <toMeloos> coreycb: recommend having a look at heat too. lot of bugfix commits merged in stable/liberty for it!
[14:40] <rbasak> cpaelzer: OK, thanks.
[14:40] <rbasak> cpaelzer: I'm drafting a reply, I'll ask for a review from you before sending.
[14:40] <cpaelzer> rbasak: sure
[14:40] <coreycb> toMeloos, those are questions for upstream. they are the ones deciding on when to cut point releases.
[14:42] <coreycb> toMeloos, as for the existing point releases for ceilometer and neutron, we'll do our best to get those into the proposed pocket of the liberty cloud archive before the holidays
[14:49] <toMeloos> coreycb: thanks! that would be a great start
[14:50] <coreycb> toMeloos, ok good. and I just poked into #openstack-nova to ask if they have a point release coming soon.  if not I'll try to sru a fix for the but you mentioned earlier.
[14:50] <coreycb> s/but/bug
[14:52] <toMeloos> coreycb, jamespage: by the way, are there any plans for packaging Octavia? We need it to deploy Neutron LBaaS V2 and it should be declared stable with Liberty but it's not in the liberty cloud archive
[15:04] <jamespage> toMeloos, no immediate plans
[15:35] <grilled-cheese> thanks bradm
[15:55] <rbasak> cpaelzer: first draft: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13826699/
[16:07] <rbasak> cpaelzer: toned down a bit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13826999/
[16:07] <rbasak> (interesting URL diff)
[16:13] <cpaelzer> rbasak: hehe, reading the new one
[18:19] <davidic657> Hi, 14.04 proftpd has a major flaw
[18:20] <davidic657> critical
[18:21] <davidic657> you must be aware of it
[18:22] <davidic657> ProFTPD Version 1.3.5rc3
[18:22] <Sling> davidic657: http://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2015-3306/ ?
[18:22] <sarnold> davidic657: can you prepare a debdiff for us to sponsor? there's a few bugs that need fixing, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/proftpd-dfsg.html
[18:22] <davidic657> just get on with it
[18:22] <Sling> lol
[18:22] <davidic657> fix the darn thing
[18:23] <sarnold> davidic657: protftp is community maintained; I think no one actually uses it, since no one has prepared updates yet.
[18:23] <davidic657> your supposed to be the top notch distro
[18:23] <davidic657> its a major exploit
[18:23] <Sling> proftpd has nothing to do with the ubuntu server
[18:23] <sarnold> davidic657: more information on how to prepare an update is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation
[18:24] <Sling> unless you mean this has been fixed upstream and the package needs updating
[18:24] <davidic657> Sling: yeah
[18:24] <sarnold> Sling: that's probably the case; see the people.canonical.com url I pasted earlier for details
[18:25] <Sling> ok, then I said nothing
[18:25] <sarnold> davidic657: feel free to run vsftpd, which is in main and supported by the ubuntu security team
[18:25] <davidic657> sarnold: proftpd is built into my CP
[18:25] <davidic657> hate taking anything off default :)
[18:25] <sarnold> davidic657: what's that?
[18:26] <davidic657> Virtualmin
[18:29] <sarnold> yikes, I hope you've got _that_ firewalled off to just your home IP too...
[18:29] <davidic657> sarnold: that to me :)
[18:29] <davidic657> I guess not
[20:40] <plm> hi all. i'm trying install ubuntu server on a ts140 (2 disks, 3 tb each one). i installed the system and i configured the raid, but now i've problem with grub. seems i cannot install it (fatal error).
[20:40] <plm> anybody can help me?
[20:43] <plm> bios configured as: quick start disabled. secure boot disabled. boot mode legacy first. disks AHCI (i used the software raid during the installation).
[20:48] <plm> the image i used is: ubuntu-14.04.3-server-i386
[20:48] <sarnold> plm: what error do you get? irc works best with specifics..
[20:50] <plm> the exectuion of "grub-install /dev/sda /dev/sdb" failed. this is a fatal error.
[20:50] <sarnold> dang that's it? how about log files?
[20:51] <plm> i'm in the installer. how can i access the log file?
[20:52] <sarnold> maybe alt-f2 or control-alt-f2?
[20:52] <plm> .
[20:55] <plm> ok.
[20:57] <plm> grub-install: warning : this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible. /// grub-installer: grub-instal: error: embedding is not possible, but this is required forRAID and LVM install.  /// grub-installer: error: running 'grub-install --force "/dev/sda/"' failed.
[20:57] <quantic> plm: You need to fix partitioning. You need a small partition of GPT type ef02 (I think) at the start of each disk.
[20:58] <plm> md: delaying resync of md2 until md1 has finished (they share one or more physical units).
[20:58] <plm> what's ef02?
[20:59] <quantic> plm: The GPT partition type ID for "reserved BIOS boot partition."
[20:59] <quantic> plm: When installing a BIOS GRUB loader (not UEFI) on a GPT-partitioned disk, which yours are because they're >2TB, you require that partition in order for GRUB to have somewhere to embed itself.
[21:00] <plm> but now, after did raid i cannot edit partitions. how can i do? have i rewrite the partition table?
[21:00] <quantic> plm: Reinstall would be the easiest way.
[21:01] <plm> ok, i'm rebooting the server.
[21:05] <plm> ok, now i'm in the partitioning step. how should i proceed?
[21:06] <quantic> plm: Create a small (1MB is fine) partition at the start of both disks. Set the type to "reserved BIOS boot partition."
[21:06] <quantic> Then partition the disks normally other than that.
[21:08] <plm> the partition tool shows me the raid
[21:08] <plm> i need to delete it... before.
[21:09] <ponyofdeath> trying to create a deb of nodejs 4.3.2 and running debuild after having this rules file seems to not include usr/bin/nodejs in the deb only the doc's any idea what is going on? https://bpaste.net/show/3a9c2cf852c7
[21:12] <plm> quantic, i removed the previous partitions. but when i tryed to create a 1 Mb partition it says it's too small
[21:13] <quantic> What did you enter at the size prompt, specifically?
[21:13] <patdk-wk> I normally do 8mb
[21:13] <patdk-wk> I think 1mb is just enough these days
[21:14] <quantic> 1M is quite massive for a GRUB partition.
[21:14] <quantic> On my servers, it's exactly 1MB.
[21:16] <plm> but the partition tool don't allow to use a so small partition. while, if i ask to the partition tool to autocreate a partition table, it creates 1mb (free space) ; 1mb biosgrub ; 3tb / ; 17mb swap. can it be a solution?
[21:16] <plm> or the 1mb empty space is a problem?
[21:17] <quantic> plm: The 1mb biosgrub is what I'm talking about creating. o.o
[21:18] <plm> of course, i understand. but it's not at the begin. there is 1mb free space before.
[21:19] <plm> is it a problem?
[21:21] <plm> quantic, have i create a md for biosgrub also?
[21:30] <quantic> plm: No, it won't work. Just leave it as a bare partition.
[21:30] <patdk-wk> no
[21:30] <patdk-wk> it can be anywhere
[21:30] <patdk-wk> ideally it should be within the first 500megs of the disk, or 8gigs or whatever bios limit you have :)
[21:31] <patdk-wk> but otherwise it could be at the end of the disk
[21:34] <plm> quantic, so i've to partition the two disks in the same way, and i'll obtain something like: so the partition table would be something like: 1MB free; 1MB biosgrub; 3TB RAID; 17GB RAID & 1MB free; 1MB biosgrub(?); 3TB RAID; 17GB RAID
[21:35] <plm> but the 1Mb of biosgrub i've in the sda, what it would be in sdb?
[21:36] <patdk-wk> a mirror image
[21:37] <patdk-wk> if you expect to boot from it
[21:38] <plm> so, patdk-wk i've to select also in the second disk biosgrub?
[21:38] <patdk-wk> yes
[21:38] <plm> however i cannot flag this partition as bootble.
[21:38] <plm> is it normal?
[21:38] <patdk-wk> and in your grub config, select it also
[21:38] <patdk-wk> heh?
[21:38] <patdk-wk> it should be flaggable as bootable
[21:39] <quantic> GPT doesn't have a bootable/active flag.
[21:39] <quantic> So, no, you shouldn't be able to flag it as bootable.
[21:40] <plm> so, it's normal. ok. cool :D
[21:47] <plm> so at the end i've sda1 and sdb1 biosgrub (1mb each one); MD0 3TB for Root; MD1 17GB for Swap. right?
[21:50] <plm> quantic, patdk-wk  i'm going to arrive to the grub installer.. pls don't leave me now. :/
[21:56] <quantic> plm: Sounds about right.
[22:09] <Logos01> So. This is a real shot in the dark here, but is there any chance anyone here has written a CIS-benchmark compliant preseed for 14.04 ?
[22:18] <plm> ok, finally i'm at the grub installer tool. it asks me to install it on mbr. but if i right understood, maybye i've install it on sda1 and sdb1 right?
[22:21] <quantic> No.
[22:21] <quantic> Install to MBR.
[22:25] <plm> ok, finally it was succesfully installed thank you very much
[22:27] <quantic> Cheers. :)
[22:28] <genii> sda1 and sdb1 are partitions, sda and sdb are where you can install bootloaders