[05:06] <jacktheripper> dn4, http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.php?product=NCR&rid=VWX&loop=yes
[05:06] <Charles_Xavier> /say /sys -name scaling_cur_freq
[05:06] <jacktheripper> Radar under maintenence
[05:06] <dray> keeps coming back as one of those 169.x.x.x addresses
[05:06] <Hazarath> stefg, oi, I know there will be at least 100 or so results, I just hope I get the right one.
[05:06] <Charles_Xavier> i type that right?
[05:06] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> no
[05:06] <iphv37> pike_, i've 80GB of disk space.. some for windows, and a little for crap.. maybe 15GB and 15GB.. will i need more than 50GB for ubuntu? and for what is /var? (i'm new on ubuntu..)
[05:07] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> Charles_Xavier: type "find /sys -name scaling_cur_freq" without quotes
[05:07] <Ayabara> have any of you built the latest vlc source in ubuntu? is it working well?
[05:07] <dn4> jacktheripper, hahaha radar went down LMAO
[05:07] <jacktheripper> they have a nice system
[05:07] <Hazarath> Ah, 21,000 results.
[05:07] <Charles_Xavier> it gives me no reply
[05:07] <Charles_Xavier> it doesnt output anything
[05:07] <ali1234> Teraano: i use those chinese clone mp3 players. they just appear as a usb disk. no messing about.
[05:07] <darnir> #videolan
[05:07] <darnir> oops
[05:07] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> that's odd Charles_Xavier as you have the module running
[05:07] <darnir> ./join #videolan
[05:07] <darnir> omg
[05:08] <Charles_Xavier> linux07@AC2007:~$ find /sys -name scaling_cur_freq
[05:08] <Charles_Xavier> linux07@AC2007:~$ find /sys -name scaling_cur_freq
[05:08] <darnir> i am soo sorry
[05:08] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> ChaosMachine, maybe they call it something else on intel cpus?
[05:08] <Charles_Xavier> nothing happens
[05:08] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> sorry ChaosMachine
[05:08] <ubuntu> hello, im trying to find a solution with  the error /bin/sh: cant access tty;job control turned off with gutsy tribe 2 cd. I get that everytime but when i unplug my hard drive it boots. Im running from cd now
[05:08] <jacktheripper> Charles_Xavier, lsmod, find the module, delete it from /lib/modules/ reboot
[05:08] <Teraano> ali1234: chinese clone mp3?  is the name clone? or is it some replica of.. other brand?
[05:08] <varka> iphv37: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[05:08] <Obfuscator> where do i go with hibernate problems
[05:08] <Charles_Xavier> how
[05:08] <Hazarath> stefg, Ok, so, how will this help me, they seem to use Windows, not ubuntu. x.x
[05:08] <ali1234> Teraano: some of them look like ipod nanos. the generic name is "s1mp3" but they are sold under many names
[05:09] <Obfuscator> that is, hibernate problems after resizing the swap partition
[05:09] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> Obfuscator, is it smaller than your ram?
[05:09] <jacktheripper> Obfuscator, did you run mkswap?
[05:09] <Ancient1> why sudo -s says authentication failed when I try to run a script using the SAME L:P I put in during intsall ?
[05:09] <Charles_Xavier> find /sys -name scaling_cur_freq
[05:09] <Charles_Xavier> its not showing anything
[05:10] <Teraano> ali1234: Okay thank you!  yeah, im thinking of buying some.  And theres such a hype about that ipod nano. And sure, it looks good and all. But i want it to work well under linux. As that is all i use now.
[05:10] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> Charles_Xavier, is cpu power management enabled in bios?
[05:10] <Teraano> ali1234: I saw that there was this iTunes program thingie for those ipods.
[05:10] <osxdude|laptop> dn5: that's hilarious
[05:10] <jacktheripper> nothing from apple will work well under linux
[05:10] <Teraano> jacktheripper: why?
[05:10] <aer> helo
[05:10] <ali1234> Teraano: you have to be careful when buying them especially on ebay, as they are often sold with bad flash chips or hacked to look like they have more space than the chip actually has
[05:10] <aer> helo
[05:10] <jacktheripper> Teraano, there is no itunes for linux
[05:10] <Obfuscator> jacktheripper, nice nick :D i've run mkswap, got a new vol_id (double checked with vol_id), done swappon -va, got the UUID, pasted it in fstab and the resume-file. Also tried with /dev/sda5 directly, bypassing UUIDS. No luck
[05:10] <aer> helo
[05:10] <Charles_Xavier> no its not
[05:10] <Teraano> jacktheripper: ftkpod seamed to work just as well as itunes.
[05:10] <Teraano> jacktheripper: gtkpod*
[05:10] <stefg> Hazarath: i can't really help. The problem is that you'll have to find out what this *.bin format is about if you want to find a trick to get the files in it. *bin can mean anything, but i'm suspecting it's just some M$-format which is unreadable for anything that's not windows
[05:10] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> Charles_Xavier, try enabling it
[05:10] <iphv37> pike_ and varka, thanks!
[05:11] <Charles_Xavier> \x6e\x65\x72\x64 - it showed 3.6 in windows xp, windows 2000, and in slackware
[05:11] <Teraano> ali1234: ah, thank you.
[05:11] <aer> fuck youy
[05:11] <Charles_Xavier> I have a feeling its a driver in ubuntu
[05:11] <aer> yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[05:11] <aer> yyyyyyyyyyy
[05:11] <aer> yyyyyyyyyyy
[05:11] <jacktheripper> Charles_Xavier, why not just use slackware then
[05:11] <aer> yyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[05:11] <aer> yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[05:11] <pike_> Teraano: i dont have an issue with the ipon on linux. mine works well. i have an issue with em in general that they are not drag and drop and you cant just pull your music off of them
[05:11] <aer> yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[05:11] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> Charles_Xavier, have you tried ubuntu with speedstep enabled in bios?
[05:11] <aer> yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[05:11] <aer> yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[05:11] <jacktheripper> Teraano, i wasnt aware of that
[05:11] <stefg> !ops
[05:11] <ubotu> Help!   What software are you using to get your music on there?  That gtkpod program, yes?
[05:12] <jacktheripper> Obfuscator, so like...you rebooted?
[05:12] <Charles_Xavier> \x6e\x65\x72\x64 also, ill try the bios, but another question - i installed wine, and then uninstalled it using apt-get remove, but it still shows signs that its installed, such as there is still c\windows\wine and a lot of files created by wine. Its also listed when I type find
[05:12] <Obfuscator> jacktheripper, yes the swap is double the ram size (4 GB, got 2 GB ram)
[05:12] <Charles_Xavier> is there anyway to completely remove it
[05:13] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> yes Charles_Xavier, reinstall it then type sudo apt-get remove --purge wine
[05:13] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> Charles_Xavier, and then type rm -rf ~/.wine
[05:13] <Charles_Xavier> ty
[05:13] <jacktheripper> Obfuscator, does dmesg give you any hints?
[05:13] <jacktheripper> before or after it screws up...if thats possible to check
[05:14] <Obfuscator> jacktheripper sory, got desynched :D And yes, rebooted, restarted motd etc etc.. I tried to look in dmesg, but dunno what do grep for
[05:14] <ultm8> hi people.... i need your help big time... i have a geforce nvidia gts 8800
[05:14] <ultm8> and for some reason can no longer install the drivers
[05:14] <jacktheripper> Obfuscator, so does it crash when you resume?
[05:14] <pike_> Teraano: gtkpod yeah. only issue is that sometimes i have to go into the ipod directory and cp config.bak config  <- thats not the real filename. also in gtkpod the playlists need to be near the top when you create em or they dont show up on the ipod. those are the only issues i had and i had a hell of a time with the second because i didnt find any documentation on it. it works well now and i prefer gtkpod to itunes soft
[05:14] <ultm8> can any 1 help me?
[05:15] <Charles_Xavier> \x6e\x65\x72\x64 thank you a lot sir, you have been so helpful, I am going to reboot and see if i can change anything in bios, and then i will be back with the update
[05:15] <Charles_Xavier> brb
[05:15] <megasquid> anyone know where i can get a good dedicated ubuntu server?
[05:15] <Hazarath> Oh, just fyi: I've confirmed it, ktorrent is TOTALLY by-passing my ISP's 'traffic shaping' crap, I just hit maximum downloading speed, and it's almost stable. ^^
[05:15] <Obfuscator> jacktheripper, no just boots as if nothing happened. For a while i kept getting corrupt swap, but thats not happening anymore. Don't know if thats good or bad :(
[05:15] <dn4> ultm8, don't ask to ask ever again
[05:15] <ultm8> dn4: ? what?
[05:15] <dn4> ultm8, just ask the question you need help with
[05:15] <stefg> !ask | ultm8
[05:15] <ubotu> ultm8: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:15] <jacktheripper> Obfuscator, do swapoff, try to redo mkswap (with bad block checking), then reboot.... :p
[05:15] <jacktheripper> try one more time
[05:16] <jacktheripper> make sure you dont mkswap an important fs
[05:16] <Obfuscator> jacktheripper ok brb thanks
[05:17] <ultm8> ok... well i installed updated my feisty fawn, and after reboot i was greeted by the xserver crash screen
[05:17] <Teraano> pike_: Thanks a bunch man.  I just might go for it. Size is good, battery hours looks good. And you, have it working quite well gives me more intrest in that one so..  Thanks.
[05:17] <d3v1l88> hi
[05:17] <WauWieLein> hi
[05:17] <ultm8> i tried reinstalling the nvidia drivers from the site
[05:17] <Obfuscator> jacktheripper before I start i wanted to say that the swap is working already, retry anyway?
[05:17] <manitou_> hi ! how to auto mount ata HD ? i have system on sata and 1 extra ATA !
[05:17] <ultm8> xserver crash
[05:17] <pike_> Teraano: np. i hate the proprietary stuff but the ipod interface.. you cant really beat it right now
[05:17] <WauWieLein> Can someone say me, how to restart the Soundserver?Privat please
[05:17] <jacktheripper> Obfuscator, well, it isnt working properly
[05:17] <Teraano> pike_: :) cool
[05:18] <ultm8> so i changed to "nv" in my xorg.conf and it now displays the screen
[05:18] <ultm8> however my resolutions are out of sync
[05:18] <jacktheripper> Obfuscator, the swap partition has to be the problem...do fdisk -l and make sure all the cylinder boundaries look good and what not
[05:18] <ultm8> and my 3d drivers dont work
[05:18] <stefg> !nvidia | ultm8
[05:18] <ubotu> ultm8: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:18] <jacktheripper> either that or having a 4gig swap is too big for suspensin or something
[05:19] <ultm8> is this guide for nvidia gts 8800 cards
[05:19] <jacktheripper> i normally just doe sh ./NVIDIA-blh blah blah.run to install nvidia
[05:19] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> 4gig swap? 1gb ought to be enough for anybody :)
[05:19] <ultm8> yeah tried that jacktheripper
[05:19] <ultm8> and it dont work
[05:19] <SlimG> Is it necessary to install realplayer when I've got w32codecs and libxine-extracodecs? If yes: Is there a way to avoid installing realplayer and be able to play realplayer files?
[05:19] <jacktheripper> ultm8, well of course it doesnt work on ubuntu
[05:19] <paperboyES06> I need some help with my sound on my ubuntu
[05:19] <jacktheripper> thats just for normal distros
[05:19] <ultm8> oh
[05:19] <Obfuscator> jacktheripper, maybe reduce swap again then? I did 2xRAM since i seemed to remember that... maybe it was RAM/2??
[05:19] <ultm8> well it has worked on ubuntu in the past
[05:19] <stefg> SlimG: mplayer with w32codecs plays most realplayer stuff
[05:19] <dray> i fixed the problem, thank you google
[05:19] <ultm8> till distro upgrade
[05:20] <paperboyES06> I am quite a newbie and cannot get any sound to come out at all
[05:20] <SlimeyPete> Obfuscator: 2xRAM is the usual amount
[05:20] <jacktheripper> Obfuscator, well, you have those options
[05:20] <paperboyES06> any suggestions?
[05:20] <jacktheripper> Obfuscator, something went wrong, you should be able to narrow it down
[05:20] <jacktheripper> since you only changed one thing :p
[05:20] <manitou_> hi ! how to auto mount ata HD ? i have system on sata and 1 extra ATA !
[05:20] <SlimG> stefg: Is the realplayer within the w32codecs pack? or in the mplayer package?
[05:20] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> Obfuscator, I read somewhere above 1gb 1xRAM is enough, I use it and it never gets totally filled up
[05:20] <jacktheripper> SlimeyPete, if i had 8gigs of ram, id need a 16gb swap!
[05:21] <dray> interfaces = eth1 lo
[05:21] <dray>     bind interfaces only = yes . This was the only thing that would work in getting samba to recognise eth1
[05:21] <stefg> SlimG: the real 9 codecs come with w32codecs
[05:21] <SlimeyPete> jacktheripper: well, not "need". It's just a rule of thumb.
[05:21] <logreeval> hi, if i close my laptop lid after i start my computer, it just goes blank if i open it up again
[05:21] <jacktheripper> SlimeyPete, thats never been a rule of thumb for me
[05:21] <jacktheripper> its been proven wrong  and bad advaice :p
[05:21] <SlimeyPete> jacktheripper: it has? by who?
[05:21] <Obfuscator> jacktheripper, \x6e, slimeypete ill try to look up if there is a upper limit. I increased swap since it was filling up upon hibernate, but not having hibernate at all is worse :D
[05:21] <jacktheripper> hardocp
[05:22] <ali1234> logreeval: system->preferences->power management
[05:22] <dr_willis> There is some where i heard that if you use 'suspend to disk' you may need a lot of swap for the suspend space.
[05:22] <andrer> i know I can do port forwarding on ssh using the -L directive... but on putty, i can do it dynamically, after the connection is already established... is this possible on shell ssh?
[05:22] <logreeval> i will try ali1234
[05:23] <ali1234> logreeval: set it to something like "blank screen" or "nothing" and try again
[05:23] <F00BaR`> !op
[05:23] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[05:23] <F00BaR`> ops
[05:23] <paperboyES06> Anyone in here good at sound issues?
[05:23] <jrib> F00BaR`: ?
[05:23] <logreeval> it is at blank screen
[05:23] <Hobbsee> F00BaR`: ?
[05:23] <F00BaR`> oh sorry
[05:23] <F00BaR`> nvm
[05:23] <swimmerino88> hello to evrebody in few days i will do an expo with my ubuntu laptop...now i have a problem,when i connect it to a monitor(in the expo i will have a projector) i can't see anythin in my laptop monitor!how can i activate it?PLEASE!
[05:23] <ali1234> logreeval: for both mains and battery?
[05:23] <F00BaR`> sorted it
[05:23] <jacktheripper> andrer, i dont think you can really do that with putty...you have to reconnect for your settings to take effect afaik
[05:23] <logreeval> yes
[05:23] <nixternal> damn you!
[05:23] <ali1234> logreeval: are you using beryl?
[05:24] <logreeval> its if i power the computer up, while it is starting, close the lid, it is blank
[05:24] <logreeval> beryl?
[05:24] <andrer> jacktheripper: i am sure you can add port mappings dinamically... i do it all the time
[05:24] <phantom_> How do i force version (Block it from updating) in Adept Packagemanager???
[05:24] <andrer> jacktheripper: just add then then click " apply"
[05:24] <logreeval> i want to be able to close the lid after i hit the power button, let it start up, and then open up the lid again
[05:25] <jacktheripper> andrer, hmm yeah it updated my putty event log...
[05:25] <jacktheripper> interesting
[05:25] <logreeval> is there a quick keyboard option to turn on your monitor?
[05:25] <tmske> I'm trying to gem install so ruby files on ubuntu, it seems that they install correctly but if I try require 'somefile', ruby doesn't find it
[05:25] <Charles_Xavier> \x6e\x65\x72\x64
[05:26] <Charles_Xavier> are you still here
[05:26] <tmske> s/so/some
[05:26] <Charles_Xavier> My cpu is being underclocked by ubuntu i think, can anyone help
[05:26] <swimmerino88> logreeval please contact me with my name...well yes it is but it doesn't work
[05:26] <Charles_Xavier> is there a setting in bios that will underclock my cpu?
[05:26] <SlimeyPete> Charles_Xavier: ubuntu won't do it
[05:26] <ali1234> logreeval: ah, only while booting? at that point, the bios still controls the power management... so just dont do it
[05:26] <ali1234> logreeval: or perhaps check the bios settings, maybe there is an option in there
[05:26] <SlimeyPete> your bios will, though
[05:26] <Charles_Xavier> i gathered some settings form bios
[05:27] <SlimeyPete> Charles_Xavier: are you sure you aren't using ol-n-quiet or speedstep?
[05:27] <Charles_Xavier> will any of these underclock:
[05:27] <SlimeyPete> *cool
[05:27] <z3r0ph3wl> hej. help! i have AD198x sound chip on my compaq nx6310. and then i play music sound quality is so bad. but in windows its good!wha i should do_
[05:27] <TiagoWW> Hi can anybody help me!??
[05:27] <SlimG> What driver should be chosen for a ATI Mobile 1300 ?
[05:27] <logreeval> ok, thank you
[05:27] <anhdepyeu> Does anyone know why the IDE nodes in feisty are /dev/sd... rather than /dev/hd...?
[05:27] <SlimeyPete> TiagoWW: depends what your problem is
[05:27] <logreeval> i cant contact you swimmerino88 i am not registered
[05:27] <Charles_Xavier> acpi: suspend type is S1, cpu thermal thorrling is 50%, thermal management is thermal monitor #1, apic mode is enabled, vga volt is 1.675v and cpu volt is 1.415v, spread spectrum disabled, and cpu clock is 200mhz
[05:28] <Charles_Xavier> is any of those underclocking
[05:28] <SlimeyPete> anhdepyeu: in the latest kernels, the ide stuff was moved into the scsi subsystem
[05:28] <Vlet> SlimG: The 'restricted drivers' tool should install the right one...
[05:28] <TiagoWW> SlimeyPete, Im trying to install my nvidia driver but i'm havin some troubles
[05:28] <brainiac> !openvpn, brainiac
[05:28] <SlimeyPete> anhdepyeu: so as faras Ubuntu knows, they are scsi/SATA disks
[05:28] <phantom_> How do i force version in KDE (Block it from updating) in Adept Packagemanager??? In Gnome-ppp or Kppp how doo I dial connection with comand???
[05:28] <anhdepyeu> SlimeyPete: thanks
[05:28] <Charles_Xavier> SlimeyPete my bios doesnt have a setting for stepping
[05:28] <Vlet> SlimG: although you won't be able to get hardware acceleration working
[05:28] <swimmerino88> logreeval:do you know hot to resolv the problem with the monitor?
[05:29] <SlimeyPete> Charles_Xavier: what cpu do you have?
[05:29] <logreeval> well, i was going to chck the bios
[05:29] <SlimG> Vlet: X won't start, so I need to know the exact driver, I guess that means I need to use the "ati" driver?
[05:29] <logreeval> but if their is a way to manually get the monitor to start wiht a keyboard shortcut...
[05:29] <gudegnaw> I posted this on the forums and no answer in over a week, In a nutshell, I am running an edgy LAMP desktop and while trying to upgrade to Feisty through the update manager, I see that all the LAMP components are marked for removal and not marked for re-installation... why is that??
[05:29] <stefg> !uuid | anhdepyeu
[05:29] <ubotu> anhdepyeu: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[05:29] <Charles_Xavier> SlimeyPete : Pentium 4 with hyperthreading, lga 775, 3.60ghz
[05:29] <SlimeyPete> TiagoWW: did you use the Restricted Hardware Manager?
[05:29] <z3r0ph3wl> hej. help! i have AD198x sound chip on my compaq nx6310. and then i play music sound quality is so bad. but in windows its good!wha i should do_
[05:29] <TiagoWW> I start to install the driver but return an error message
[05:30] <paperboyES06> who is the usual sound guru? Anyone?
[05:30] <TiagoWW> Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko'.  This happens most
[05:30] <TiagoWW>        frequently when this kernel module was built against the wrong or
[05:30] <TiagoWW>        improperly configured kernel source...
[05:30] <swimmerino88> logreeval:it doesn't work (if you write my name in the string i can see tha you're writing to me)
[05:30] <SlimeyPete> Charles_Xavier: Pentium 4s, especially later ones, often use SpeedStep (which will mean that your cpu slows down when you're not doing much with it)
[05:30] <Charles_Xavier> how come theres no speedstep section in bios to configure it
[05:31] <logreeval> swimmerino88: should i try the bios?
[05:31] <gudegnaw> has anyone had trouble upgrading to Fesity while running LAMP??
[05:31] <Charles_Xavier> my cpu temps are 28C, I have about 10 fans in this monster case
[05:31] <Charles_Xavier> i dont have to worry about underclock
[05:31] <paperboyES06> Who is the usual sound guru? Anyone? I would like to know please.
[05:31] <jacktheripper> z3r0ph3wl, load up alsa-mixer with some music playing and make sure the wave/pcm/master levels are not maxed, and also try muting and unmuting some of the settings further down
[05:31] <brainiac> I'm having trouble following the instructions on wiki.ubuntuusers.de to get openvpn client running... can anyone help?
[05:31] <Charles_Xavier> jack_wyt_,
[05:32] <Charles_Xavier> jacktheripper,
[05:32] <jacktheripper> Charles_Xavier, underclocking saves the planet
[05:32] <Charles_Xavier> what should the settings be
[05:32] <SlimeyPete> Charles_Xavier: dunno. Poor-quality BIOS? What makes you think your cpu is underclocked, btw?
[05:32] <Charles_Xavier> in alsa mixer
[05:32] <TiagoWW>        improperly configured kernel source...
[05:32] <Charles_Xavier> mine are all the way full
[05:32] <SlimeyPete> Charles_Xavier: those settings look ok to me
[05:32] <jacktheripper> well you never want to max out a mixer setting
[05:32] <shrimants> is striker7 here?
[05:32] <Charles_Xavier> SlimeyPete,  when i load up the cpu
[05:32] <TiagoWW> Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko'.  This happens most
[05:32] <rabby> how to downgrade 64 to 32 bit of feisty?
[05:32] <TiagoWW>        frequently when this kernel module was built against the wrong or
[05:32] <TiagoWW>        improperly configured kernel source.. (How can I solve this problem??)
[05:32] <Charles_Xavier> and in cpu monitor it shows 2.8
[05:32] <jacktheripper> it causes interference or static
[05:32] <Charles_Xavier> mine is all the way maxed
[05:32] <Charles_Xavier> in red
[05:32] <swimmerino88> logreeval it isn't a bios problem because when i used windows months ago it worked
[05:32] <Charles_Xavier>  what should i set it as
[05:32] <jacktheripper> i keep mine 90 percent
[05:32] <rabby> all pages tell me to look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74990 but it does no longer exist.
[05:33] <TiagoWW> anybody?
[05:33] <jacktheripper> ideally you should control the volume from the hardware (speakers or reciever) and keep your pc levels at 90%
[05:33] <anhdepyeu> I've connected a new PATA drive on the internal controller (after having previously installed feisty). The BIOS sees it no problem, and the dmesg log shows the SCSI subystem recognizes it fine, but no /dev/sdX node is created for it (I expect /dev/sdd since it is secondary+slave). Any help?  Udev/hotplug?  There does seem to be a /dev/scd0 (major device 11) but I don't know what that is.
[05:33] <Charles_Xavier> jacktheripper what is your PCM setting at and the PC speak??
[05:33] <Obfuscator> ok guys tried mkswap again, no change. What do I grep for in dmesg / kern.log if i want to look for hibernation problems? thanks
[05:33] <brainiac> I'm having trouble following the instructions on wiki.ubuntuusers.de to get openvpn client running... can anyone help?
[05:33] <jacktheripper> Charles_Xavier, i just said, like 90%
[05:33] <logreeval> swimmerino88:  same with me too.......
[05:33] <variant> TiagoWW: you upgrade ubuntu (minor or major upgrade, it doesn't matter) kernel and now you need to reinstall the nvidia drivers
[05:33] <Charles_Xavier> i just checked mine
[05:33] <Charles_Xavier> it was at 32
[05:33] <Charles_Xavier> is that bad
[05:33] <variant> TiagoWW: you should use the recommended nvidia install howto instead to avoid that problem
[05:33] <ramatieg> Anybody know how to get started with 'erc'?
[05:33] <jacktheripper> Obfuscator, there probably isnt anything to look for....
[05:34] <swimmerino88> logreeval does yours works?
[05:34] <TiagoWW> variant, how do I do This..
[05:34] <ramatieg> I don't seem to know how to load it
[05:34] <variant> !nvidia | TiagoWW
[05:34] <ubotu> TiagoWW: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:34] <logreeval> swimmerino88:  what?
[05:34] <jacktheripper> Charles_Xavier, they are just volume levels, im just saying you dont want to MAX them out cuz they introduce noise
[05:34] <brainiac> !vpn, brainiac
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vpn, brainiac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <iratik> sudo: pam_authenticate: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info.
[05:34] <iratik> help!
[05:34] <swimmerino88> logreeval the monitor!
[05:34] <brainiac> I'm having trouble following the instructions on wiki.ubuntuusers.de to get openvpn client running... can anyone help?
[05:34] <logreeval> swimmerino88: yes, im using it right now
[05:35] <logreeval> swimmerino88:  its my laptop monitor
[05:35] <archangelpetro> wtf? There's a version of ubuntu for 'satanists'?
[05:35] <archangelpetro> wtf?
[05:35] <trekkme> i've got an unsecured wlan at home, i can connect to it with my laptop but not with my desktop computer, although it shows the signal quality of the wlan and also tells, tht it is connected, but still i cannot rech internet with the desktop machine
[05:35] <Obfuscator> jacktheripper ok then :( maybe if i try with kernel parameter resume=/dev/sda5?
[05:35] <slimz> hey guys when i open a terminal window on a newly install gutsy, it shows this ; http://pastebin.ca/595476
[05:35] <jacktheripper> archangelpetro, unbuntu christian edition
[05:35] <Obfuscator> brb
[05:35] <Charles_Xavier> i turned it up
[05:35] <Charles_Xavier> to 75
[05:35] <Charles_Xavier> and now it soudns bad
[05:35] <Charles_Xavier> should i turn it lower jack
[05:35] <jacktheripper> archangelpetro, they believe in satan
[05:35] <TiagoWW> ubotu, I've already read all the tutorials that can I read but I cant solve this problema
[05:35] <archangelpetro> jacktheripper, and muslim, and satanist versions.
[05:35] <z3r0ph3wl> jacktheripper> thanks
[05:35] <stefg> !gutsy | slimz
[05:35] <ubotu> slimz: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[05:35] <jacktheripper> Obfuscator, if it was working before....i dont see why you need a parameter now
[05:35] <swimmerino88> logreeval: if you connect you laptop with another monitor does it work?
[05:35] <archangelpetro> http://ubuntusatanic.org/news/screenshots/
[05:35] <variant> Obfuscator: 4gb swap is rediculous amount
[05:35] <shrimants> i cant start the liveCD on my hp dv9500t, it wont boot into linux
[05:36] <logreeval> swimmerino88: i am not sure...i dont have a monitor handy
[05:36] <gharz> guys, is there any software which i could use to connect to microsoft sql? i'm using ubuntu.
[05:36] <variant> Obfuscator: for hibernate you only need at least as much ram..
[05:36] <jacktheripper> im going to make an ubuntu for black people
[05:36] <logreeval> swimmerino88: what does that have to do with this?....just curious
[05:36] <shrimants> it only boots into BusyBox v1.1.3
[05:36] <paperboyES06> CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH A SOUND ISSUE! No one will answer me!
[05:36] <variant> !shout | paperboyES06
[05:36] <ubotu> paperboyES06: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:36] <jacktheripper> Ubuntu - African American Edition
[05:36] <gharz> paperboyES06, google it. or use ubuntuguide.org
[05:36] <brainiac> paperboyES06, whats the problem?
[05:36] <paperboyES06> no sound at all
[05:36] <PriceChild> !offtopic | jacktheripper
[05:36] <ubotu> jacktheripper: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:36] <dr_willis> how specific....
[05:36] <PriceChild> !sound > paperboyES06 (see pm from ubotu)
[05:36] <shrimants> it says /bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned off
[05:37] <slimz> stefg : i dont get it
[05:37] <paperboyES06> okay finnaly thanks!
[05:37] <swimmerino88> logreeval:  ihave said to you!!!i have to do a presentation
[05:37] <Charles_Xavier> hi, question: I heard theres a ubuntu christian edition, I was wondering if someone could provide me with a ubuntu islamic edition please. Thank you
[05:37] <slimz> stefg : i know im using gutsy
[05:37] <shrimants> and then thers (initramfs) and a blinking cursor
[05:37] <jacktheripper> !offtopic | archangelpetro
[05:37] <ubotu> archangelpetro: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:37] <archangelpetro> yea yea.
[05:37] <gharz> paperboyES06, google it. or use ubuntuguide.org
[05:37] <gharz> guys, is there any software which i could use to connect to microsoft sql? i'm using ubuntu.
[05:37] <Obfuscator> variant ok i'll try to reduce the swap soon, just want to try the other stuff first, since i just resized the partitions anyway...
[05:37] <gudegnaw> has anyone had trouble upgrading to Fesity while running LAMP??
[05:37] <variant> Charles_Xavier: christian edition is some unoficial version.. not made by canonical. if you want an islam, jewis, hindu or whatever version then make it your self
[05:38] <logreeval> swimmerino88: ok
[05:38] <paperboyES06> I have googled it and looking in the wiki and flollowd the alsa tutorial and it didn't helpl
[05:38] <anhdepyeu> No help on getting a udev node created for a new IDE drive?
[05:38] <Charles_Xavier> variant how
[05:38] <variant> gharz: http://www.google.com/search?q=mssql+linux+client&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[05:38] <jacktheripper> anhdepyeu, mknod?
[05:38] <stefg> slimz: Gutsy is in alpha state. this means: a.) There are bugs b.) these are not going to be supported in here. c.) file a bug if you feel you should do so. d.) /j #ubuntu+1 e.) use fesity
[05:38] <variant> Charles_Xavier: take ubuntu, configure it how you like and release it as "islam edition"
[05:39] <paperboyES06> I will do some more searching on the sound issue
[05:39] <Jammer> Charles_Xavier, http://www.ubuntume.com/
[05:39] <anhdepyeu> jacktheripper: could do.  Seems a bit primitive in this day and age.
[05:39] <brainiac> paperboyES06, lspci | grep -i audio then modprobe -l | grep snd | grep pci then find your card and test it with sudo modprobe snd-via82xx onece found do this to test cat /proc/asound/cards
[05:39] <Charles_Xavier> variant can i sell my edition
[05:39] <variant> Charles_Xavier: yes
[05:39] <Charles_Xavier> to become rich like bill gates
[05:39] <Charles_Xavier> nice
[05:39] <jacktheripper> anhdepyeu, whatever works
[05:39] <variant> Charles_Xavier: unlikly, and that is offtopic
[05:39] <Charles_Xavier> lol
[05:39] <Charles_Xavier> sorry
[05:39] <brainiac> I'm having trouble following the instructions on wiki.ubuntuusers.de to get openvpn client running... can anyone help?
[05:39] <anhdepyeu> jacktheripper: fair enough! :-)
[05:40] <jacktheripper> anhdepyeu, now you just need to figure out which minor and major numbers it gets :)
[05:41] <anhdepyeu> jacktheripper: yeah, I reckon I can just extrapolate from existing nodes.  Something seems really wrong about this though... must be a udev/hotplug config file somewhere that needs fixin'
[05:42] <jacktheripper> anhdepyeu, maybe there is  away to scan for hardware changes
[05:42] <Charles_Xavier> does anyone listen to blink 182
[05:42] <brainiac> I'm having trouble following the instructions on wiki.ubuntuusers.de to get openvpn client running... can anyone help?
[05:42] <jacktheripper> !offtopic | Charles_Xavier
[05:42] <ubotu> Charles_Xavier: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:43] <nerdygirl_ellie> hi.
[05:44] <Chads> Has anyone information on how to repair an ubuntu installation it just seems to freeze at boot.
[05:44] <nerdygirl_ellie> Yes.
[05:44] <brainiac> reinst ^^
[05:44] <ankur> is there a way to mount partions automaticaly on startup only on specific accounts
[05:44] <wastro> what should I use for wmvs and mozilla support
[05:44] <nerdygirl_ellie> Chads: How broken is your install?
[05:45] <wastro> mplayer?
[05:45] <dfr> Chads: run it in non-splash mode and find error.
[05:45] <PriceChild> Chads, could you give everyone information on where it freezes, whilst donig what, what is frozen on screen?
[05:45] <PriceChild> !mp3 | wastro
[05:45] <ubotu> wastro: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:45] <brainiac> vpn?
[05:45] <nerdygirl_ellie> Chads:  Press ctrl-alt-f1 and see if there are any errors.
[05:45] <Chads> well it boots and then on the ubuntu flash screen the bar moves to about the middle and then stalls.
[05:45] <brainiac> Chads, Ctrg+Alt+F
[05:45] <brainiac> 1
[05:45] <nerdygirl_ellie> Chads: ok.  press ctrl-alt-f1 or ctrl-alt-f2 and see what it says.
[05:45] <Chads> I think the error is ndiswrapper loading a 64bit driver for my wlan card.
[05:46] <brainiac> I'm having trouble following the instructions on wiki.ubuntuusers.de to get openvpn client running... can anyone help?
[05:46] <Chads> just trying that now
[05:46] <ankur>  is there a way to mount partions automaticaly on startup only on specific accounts
[05:46] <ali1234> brainiac: maybe, what exactly is wrong?
[05:46] <brainiac> ankur, I know there is, but dunno how
[05:46] <kupesoft> I want to uninstall avahi (so those stupid ethX:avah interfaces don't show up) but it's asking for me to remove ubuntu-desktop. Can I do that?
[05:47] <nerdygirl_ellie> ankur:  you could put it in their session startup file.
[05:47] <ankur> thank you brainiac
[05:47] <alesan> kupesoft, what is avahi?
[05:47] <ankur> heee
[05:47] <ankur> i know about fstab
[05:47] <kupesoft> alesan: Google.
[05:47] <afx> i have a question regarding hot laptop CPUs and Unbuntu. Anybody good on that here?
[05:47] <alesan> kupesoft, can't you tell me in few words?
[05:47] <ankur> but i want on specific acounts
[05:47] <kupesoft> alesan: Implements zeroconf,
[05:47] <alesan> kupesoft, thanks.
[05:48] <kupesoft> alesan: Sure (;
[05:48] <Chads> none of those work. ctrl alt f1 or f2
[05:48] <akari> ankur: Put it in the accounts session startup file
[05:48] <brainiac> ali1234, oops... just got it working... had a typo... sry
[05:48] <iratik> help... can't sudo from any account -- still have a root account terminal open to fix it ...  sudo: pam_authenticate: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info.
[05:48] <Chest> Does anyone know of a program that can read/manipulate Dreamweaver templates?
[05:49] <CVD_> i put a scrip "open in terminal"in the /home/.gnome2/scripts   ,but hot to activate the script?
[05:49] <ankur>  is there a way to mount partions automaticaly on startup only on specific accounts
[05:49] <treefingers> Hi, I am looking for a way to change the resolution of several jpg files. Is there any program out there that does this?
[05:49] <nerdygirl_ellie> chest: screem looks like it will do it, but I couldn't figure it out.
[05:49] <nerdygirl_ellie> treefingers: imagemagick can do it from the command line.
[05:49] <killown> I have set gusty repository in sources.list does it repository to let my system  instable though?
[05:49] <ankur>  is there a way to mount partions automaticaly on startup only on specific accounts with read write support
[05:49] <nerdygirl_ellie> treefingers: gimp can do it gui onoe at a time.
[05:49] <Chads> ok ubuntu has frozen. tried ctrl alt f1 and f2 and nothing.
[05:50] <dr_willis> treefingers,  gimp, imagemagik, (oir whatever its called)
[05:50] <Chads> any other things i can try.
[05:50] <dr_willis> Chads,  ssh into the box?
[05:50] <Chest> nerdygirl_ellie: thanks, i'll check it out.
[05:50] <kupesoft> Can I remove ubuntu-desktop?
[05:50] <ankur> ne1 help me
[05:50] <treefingers> nerdygirlgirl_ellie: i have many photos so I don't want to do them one at a time, but load the entire folder and resize them all
[05:50] <SlimG> Does rhytmbox take advantage of the w32codecs when they exist on the system?
[05:50] <ankur>  is there a way to mount partions automaticaly on startup only on specific accounts with read write support
[05:50] <Chads> bloody hell only installed ubuntu yesterday. what the hell is ssh,.
[05:50] <dr_willis> kupesoft,  you can.. but it wont do much.
[05:50] <kupesoft> dr_willis: What are the disadvantages of doing so?
[05:50] <dr_willis> Chads,  a way to get a remote shell on one machine, from antoehr.
[05:50] <ludwig> Hello @ all! I just have a short question. I wonder whether I should activate the "feisty-backports" for updates in Synaptic. What advantages or disadvantages does that bring to me? I am a "repository newbie", so help would be great! :-)
[05:50] <toryl__> Chest: http://www.colorstudy.com/software/dwt/
[05:51] <dr_willis> kupesoft,  it may cause failed 'upgrade' to the next release.
[05:51] <killown> anyone use gusty repositories?
[05:51] <Charles_Xavier> hi guys i have a process called
[05:51] <CVD_> scripts?
[05:51] <dr_willis> kupesoft,  why are you even worried about this?
[05:51] <PriceChild> killown, #ubuntu+1
[05:51] <nerdygirl_ellie> !backports
[05:51] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[05:51] <Chest> toryl__: cool.  thanks.
[05:51] <Charles_Xavier> hi guys i have a process called "ssh-agent" enabled in process list. should i shut this off, or is this a safe process to have on
[05:52] <ludwig> ahhh thanks ubotu :-) so they ARE quite useful heh?
[05:52] <PriceChild> Charles_Xavier, do you have seahorse installed...?
[05:52] <treefingers> nerdgirl_ellie & dr_willis: thanks, I found this site which helps me out a bunch ( http://www.imagemagick.org/script/mogrify.php )
[05:52] <killown> but is recomended use feisty or gusty ?
[05:52] <nerdygirl_ellie> treefingers: yep, you found it. :)
[05:52] <SlimG> Does rhytmbox take advantage of the w32codecs when they exist on the system?
[05:52] <kupesoft> dr_willis: I need to remove a package and that will also remove ubuntu-desktop
[05:53] <nerdygirl_ellie> kupesoft: no you don't.  find another way. ;)
[05:53] <kupesoft> nerdygirl_ellie: Yes, I do (;
[05:53] <killown> hey please
[05:53] <CVD_> any here know about scripts?
[05:53] <killown> gusty or feisty?
[05:53] <nerdygirl_ellie> CVD_: what do you want to know?
[05:53] <nerdygirl_ellie> killown: Do not use gutsy yet unless you know dpkg.
[05:54] <nerdygirl_ellie> killown: wait for at least tribe 3.
[05:54] <john`> I accidently turn chmod -x /etc/init.d/rc script off and now my system won't boot up right, how do I activate it again in boot mode? can someone help me please
[05:54] <stevej> stevej
[05:54] <PriceChild> nerdygirl_ellie, killown wait until release
[05:54] <osxdude|palmTX> I cannot shut down my Ubuntu desktop. Help pls?
[05:54] <PriceChild> osxdude|palmTX, when does it stop?
[05:54] <nerdygirl_ellie> john`: boot from the cd and navigate to it and fix it.
[05:55] <ShackJack> Hi guys - trying to decide between getting a Core 2 Duo or AMD 64 X2 for an Ubuntu setup for my Dad... It should "just work" for him.. Anyone have any impressions on Ubuntu's 64-bit vs. 32 bit performance with day-to day tasks (email, wb, gnucash)... If it's much faster using one vs. the other, etc...
[05:55] <john`> nerdygirl_ellie: I have a live cd.
[05:55] <john`> how do I do that?
[05:55] <nerdygirl_ellie> osxdude|palmTX: you can try ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:55] <osxdude|palmTX> After my last hibernation
[05:55] <nerdygirl_ellie> john` boot from it and ....
[05:55] <nerdygirl_ellie> ShackJack: 64 bit is really hit-or-miss.  stick with the intel.
[05:55] <dr_willis> kupesoft,  removeing ubuntu-desktop wont affect much of anything.
[05:55] <SlimG> Does rhytmbox take advantage of the w32codecs when they exist on the system?
[05:55] <kupesoft> dr_willis: Thanks (;
[05:56] <kupesoft> dr_willis: I found the docs already
[05:56] <nerdygirl_ellie> john`: you should be able to reach your desktop under the places menu.
[05:56] <Chads> is there anyway I can get ubuntu to stop loading ndiswrapper at boot. I think that is causing the problem.
[05:56] <ShackJack> nerdygirl_ellie: Thanks... Can anyone tell me if there's a huge performance difference with day-today stuff, between the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Ubuntu...
[05:56] <jacktheripper> less than 10%
[05:57] <jacktheripper> ShackJack, stick with 32-bit in my opinion
[05:57] <john`> nerdygirl_ellie: which menu are you talking about ?
[05:57] <dr_willis> ShackJack,  most likely.. Not noticeable..
[05:57] <dr_willis> ShackJack,  specific Number crunching tasks... perhaps..
[05:57] <CVD_> its there a way ti know hwy the hell feisty freeze everytime. alot
[05:57] <CVD_> ?
[05:57] <ShackJack> jacktheripper: THanks - are you saying because no huge performance difference, or because 32 bit easier to run/deal with most programs...
[05:58] <nerdygirl_ellie> Chads: if you can get to the filesystem, you can blacklist it
[05:58] <ShackJack> dr_willis: Thanks ;)
[05:58] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> Charles_Xavier, I'm back
[05:58] <jacktheripper> ShackJack, both
[05:58] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> how is it now?
[05:58] <ShackJack> jacktheripper: K - thanx...
[05:58] <jacktheripper> ShackJack, definately both
[05:59] <Chads> I can use the ubuntu live cd will that help?
[05:59] <ShackJack> jacktheripper: dr_willis nerdygirl_ellie - Thanks all - the system is for my Dad (he want's to buy from Dell) so it should just work... I think I;ll go with their Ubuntu only 32-bit offering...
[06:00] <Charles_Xavier> \x6e\x65\x72\x64,
[06:00] <Charles_Xavier> are u here
[06:00] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> Charles_Xavier, yeah
[06:01] <reed026> how do I remove grub from my system?
[06:02] <jacktheripper> ShackJack, i hope you are familiar with ubuntu
[06:02] <reed026> like I'm trying to remove all of Ubuntu server, I cleared my partitions, however the grub loader is coming up
[06:02] <PriceChild> reed026, install a new boot loader
[06:02] <hylje> reed026: removing grub removes the ability to boot from your machine. you want to replace it
[06:02] <Charles_Xavier> \x6e\x65\x72\x64,
[06:03] <Charles_Xavier> i retrived some information from my bios
[06:03] <Charles_Xavier> are you here?
[06:03] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> what did you get Charles_Xavier ?
[06:03] <ShackJack> jacktheripper: Yes, I am, but why do you say that?
[06:03] <centaur5> I installed the newest alsa drivers and followed the community doc on sound problems and it now detects a new alsa device but there is still only sound from the headphone jack and not the speakers on an acer 3050. Any ideas?
[06:03] <reed026> I don't know how to replace it
[06:03] <Charles_Xavier> acpi: suspend type is S1, cpu thermal thorrling is 50%, thermal management is thermal monitor #1, apic mode is enabled, vga volt is 1.675v and cpu volt is 1.415v, spread spectrum disabled, and cpu clock is 200mhz
[06:03] <Charles_Xavier> my bios doesnt have a speedspte section
[06:04] <reed026> I'm just trying to install WinNT so I can download the newest bios updates because I'm having A LOT of problems installing Ubuntu server.
[06:04] <Charles_Xavier> something is lowered my multiplier
[06:04] <Charles_Xavier> i dont know what
[06:04] <Chads> Can I just install Ubuntu again? Its a dual boot with vista.
[06:04] <reed026> I can't even boot into Ubuntu.
[06:04] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> Charles_Xavier, sorry can't help you then, I don't have a C2D
[06:04] <Charles_Xavier> no its not
[06:04] <Charles_Xavier> its a p4
[06:05] <jacktheripper> Charles_Xavier, just install slackware again when 12.0 comes out
[06:05] <jacktheripper> then it wont underclock
[06:05] <Charles_Xavier> i plan on it, but a dual boot
[06:05] <Charles_Xavier> with ubuntu
[06:05] <sn-> reed026 yoou can use a freedos bootable cd with your bios bin file included
[06:05] <Charles_Xavier> whcih will really fuck it u
[06:06] <Charles_Xavier> sorry for language
[06:06] <sn-> if you have access to another computer
[06:06] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Charles_Xavier
[06:06] <ubotu> Charles_Xavier: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:06] <Charles_Xavier> bad habbit
[06:06] <Chads> Anyone help on repairing Ubuntu?
[06:06] <Charles_Xavier> wont happen again
[06:06] <PriceChild> Chads, repairing what problem?
[06:06] <treefingers> I need to grab some files off of Ubuntu and copy them to a windows computer over my home network, I have the packages installed I am just wondering how I navigate to my Ubuntu computer on the Windows one
[06:06] <reed026> I don't know how to make one. Already tried
[06:06] <ShackJack> !ask | Chads
[06:06] <ubotu> Chads: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:06] <Chads> It wont boot Price
[06:07] <PriceChild> Chads, more detail... where does it stop
[06:07] <Chads> hangs halfway through the bootup process
[06:07] <Chads> sorry
[06:07] <Chads> asking away....
[06:07] <PriceChild> how long have you left it?
[06:07] <dr_willis> treefingers,  simple way is isntall winscp on windows, and ssh on ubuntu, and use winscp to copy/move things.
[06:07] <jacktheripper> winscp is butsekz
[06:07] <dr_willis> treefingers,  if you want a 'shared' home dir, or folders - you need to set up samba.
[06:07] <PriceChild> !ohmy | jacktheripper
[06:07] <ubotu> jacktheripper: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:08] <jacktheripper> filezilla works too
[06:08] <dr_willis> jacktheripper,  thank you for that useless comment. that made no sence anyway..
[06:08] <treefingers> So I will need to set up Samba on my windows computer also?
[06:08] <PriceChild> !netsplit
[06:08] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[06:08] <dr_willis> treefingers,  samba is Linuxs version of the 'network neighborhood' stuff. :)
[06:08] <jacktheripper> dr_willis, winscp is butsekz
[06:08] <Toma-> hehe enjoy the show..
[06:08] <CVD__> hot to avtivate a script?
[06:08] <ShackJack> !language | jacktheripper
[06:08] <ubotu> jacktheripper: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:08] <treefingers> Well I have samba installed and my folder is being shared but I am wondering how I will navigate to it on the windows computer?
[06:08] <jacktheripper> !language | jacktheripper
[06:08] <dr_willis> treefingers,  being shared 'how' ?
[06:09] <Obfuscator> ok reduced swap to 2 gb, no luck giving up
[06:09] <john`> how can you list the device that you can see in ubuntu?
[06:09] <treefingers> I right clicked the folder and went to Sharing and installed the packages
[06:09] <dr_willis> treefingers,  check the windows network neighboorhood stuff?
[06:09] <PriceChild> !botabuse > jacktheripper (see the pm from ubotu)
[06:09] <jacktheripper> ??
[06:09] <dr_willis> treefingers,  you may need to manually configure the samba stuff. By default its very locked down.
[06:09] <jacktheripper> i block pms
[06:09] <treefingers> well if I was sharing these files on my windows partition I would just go on the other computer and go to explorer and type //computername
[06:10] <ali1234> john`: lspci; lsusb
[06:10] <dr_willis> treefingers,  right.. but theres no default shares  on the ubuntu box. :) its locked down.
[06:10] <ali1234> john`: or system->preferences->hardware
[06:10] <john`> I just want to see hardrive, cdrom and usb stuff
[06:10] <dr_willis> treefingers,  thats why i suggesting using winscp or similer tools to get the files.. unless you want a perment 'shared folder/network' to get to.
[06:10] <john`> not all device
[06:10] <CVD__> zzz
[06:11] <dr_willis> john`,  you mean in the file manager/load dialog?
[06:11] <ali1234> john`: then you want places->computer
[06:11] <kdubois> Obfuscator: what are you trying to do?
[06:11] <john`> well, I'm trying to mount something and I don't know the name of that hardrive like /dev/sda1 or something
[06:11] <jacktheripper> ln -s ../ a; cd a/a/a/a/a/a/a/a/a/a/a/a/a
[06:11] <jacktheripper> silly
[06:12] <treefingers> dr_willis: I am just going to end up sending the files over AIM :/
[06:13] <kdubois> john`, if its a serial drive, it will start with sd. if its a IDE drive, it will start with hd. The first physical drive is called "a" and the number after that is the partition number
[06:13] <kdubois> hope that helps....
[06:14] <Chadders> so how can I tell why ubuntu is hanging during the boot process. tried ctrl alt f1 & f2 nothing. Its just stuck on the bar halfway through.
[06:14] <Hazarath> Okes, on a ThinkPad R31 2656, and my mouse is anything but... stable. It likes to go totally heywire. Any advice/help?
[06:14] <jacktheripper> Chadders, ctrl alt f1 and f2 before it locks up and see where it is stopping
[06:14] <dr_willis> treefingers,  whatever.. ya could of had the stuff done by now. :)
[06:14] <Chadders> ahh ok before it looks up
[06:15] <OmegaCenti> Anything good to read about upstart?
[06:15] <jacktheripper> Chadders, whichever button lets you see the processes its performing
[06:15] <jacktheripper> one of them replaces bootsplat
[06:15] <dr_willis> OmegaCenti,  there was a Upstart wiki page. i recall.. aint checkd it out in ages.
[06:15] <OmegaCenti> dr_willis: That would help. know what wiki its attached to?
[06:15] <centaur5> I have an atheros wireless card in an Acer that says it's using the restricted modules but it doesn't show in ifconfig as a device.
[06:15] <dr_willis> OmegaCenti,  nope. :) id have to google.
[06:16] <Chadders> it says kernel panic not syncing.
[06:16] <Chadders> aiee killing interupt handler
[06:16] <okhere> can anyone help me with a boot problem please ?? i had windows and ubuntu in dual boot in 2 separated partitions but when i deleted the windows partition and merged it with the linux partition now i get "grub error 22"
[06:16] <OmegaCenti> dr_willis: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/ look familiar?
[06:16] <jacktheripper> Chadders, wait btw, what did you do before it stopped working?  any updatse?
[06:16] <HymnToLife> okhere, define "merged"
[06:16] <dr_willis> OmegaCenti,  does it matter? :) looks like the ofofical ubuntuwiki page to me
[06:17] <OmegaCenti> dr_willis: oy, looks to be a bit out of my scope
[06:17] <Chadders> well i tried to change an ndiswrapper device driver to a 64 bit version
[06:17] <OmegaCenti> I need a beginners guide about runleves and init.d or upstart
[06:17] <Chadders> it seems thats causing it to hang.
[06:17] <djdarkman> Hy can someone help me set up pulseaudio?
[06:17] <jacktheripper> Chadders, you really should read like 5 lines from the bottom
[06:17] <Flannel> !bum | OmegaCenti
[06:17] <ubotu> OmegaCenti: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[06:17] <jacktheripper> Chadders, those are what cause the final 2 messages :P
[06:18] <OmegaCenti> thought you called me a bum lol
[06:18] <OmegaCenti> Flannel: I checked out screen, pretty interesting.
[06:18] <Chadders> Jack: thats all in hex code
[06:18] <jacktheripper> !nerd | OmegaCenti
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nerd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <jacktheripper> :)
[06:18] <jacktheripper> Chadders, ewww
[06:18] <dr_willis> OmegaCenti,  thing about upstart.. is that it works great so far.. not had to mess with it :)
[06:18] <OmegaCenti> Flannel: I am really still having problems with the console fonts/resolutions... I hate having nonstandard resolutions
[06:18] <click__> !kubuntu
[06:18] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[06:19] <budmang> Fix my Firefox :)
[06:19] <Chadders> a few RIP, RSP and CR2 and then kernel panic.
[06:19] <OmegaCenti> dr_willis: I am trying to understand it so that I may understand what the system does at startup, the sequence of events, and how I might modify it
[06:19] <budmang> My friends never crashes and mine does.
[06:19] <jacktheripper> Chadders, yes...that is a complete kernel crash :/  so you just want to fix your system?  boot an ubuntu cd, mount your root partition, delete the new module from /var/lib/modules *somewhere in there)
[06:20] <click__> what is kubuntu ?
[06:20] <OmegaCenti> Flannel: Did you like TLD?
[06:20] <Flannel> !kubuntu | click__
[06:20] <ubotu> click__: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[06:20] <dr_willis> OmegaCenti,  :) fun.
[06:20] <jacktheripper> click__, for ku klux klan members
[06:20] <jacktheripper> err kde
[06:20] <Chadders> do you mean boot from a live cd?
[06:20] <nny> de
[06:20] <jacktheripper> users
[06:20] <asaup> what can i do to resolve grub error 22
[06:20] <treefingers> What does the red, horizontal line that sometimes comes up on XChat mean?
[06:20] <OmegaCenti> dr_willis: meh, I am trying to understand ALL these messages coming across whenever ubuntu comes out of the gate, I turned off quiet so I could learn more
[06:20] <jacktheripper> Chadders, yeah just boot a live cd and mount your root partition somewhere
[06:20] <dr_willis> treefingers,  perhaps lag?
[06:20] <Flannel> treefingers: when you look away, that marks the last line you saw beforehand
[06:20] <OmegaCenti> And whenever I look at init.d, all I see is a bunch of executables and I have no idea what calls them
[06:20] <Flannel> treefingers: so if you come back, you see what you've missed
[06:21] <jacktheripper> optionally you can actually use the kernel on the disk to actually boot your system
[06:21] <Hazarath> Hmm... ok, found something, but... I don't know how to apply this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/21558
[06:21] <dr_willis> treefingers,  or ya mean in the chat? thats when you last  had xchat lose focus.
[06:21] <nny> Hi, does anyone knwo the name of the software that remasters an ubuntu live cd, used it a month or two ago, worked great and was very easy, now I can't remember the name :\
[06:21] <Chadders> will you walk me through it if i go ahead bit new here.
[06:21] <OmegaCenti> Is there something like registry run - runonce in windows registry?
[06:21] <centaur5> how can I find out what version of the madwifi drivers are installed?
[06:21] <dr_willis> treefingers,  that wayyou can see where you left off.
[06:21] <treefingers> Ohhh ok it must be when I click on another application
[06:21] <treefingers> haha, nifty thanks.
[06:21] <jacktheripper> OmegaCenti, gnome/kde have options to launch any programs at login
[06:21] <jacktheripper> but there is no run-once unless you make a script that deletes itself
[06:22] <john`> how come when I boot into cd and use sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/rc and then I see the file is execute and then when I reboot it still say that the file is not booting up and I can't boot up the machine?
[06:22] <OmegaCenti> jacktheripper: I understand that and use it to its fullest.
[06:22] <Chadders> So what would i be deleting?
[06:22] <OmegaCenti> jacktheripper: However, the parts that show up before gnome even comes around is what interests me.
[06:22] <CVD__> any here know about scripts
[06:22] <jacktheripper> john`, cds are read only
[06:22] <jacktheripper> OmegaCenti, .xinitrc ?
[06:22] <john`> so what do I need to do jacktheripper?
[06:22] <OmegaCenti> jacktheripper: I have no idea. maybe thats what I am looking to understand
[06:23] <jacktheripper> john`, run it manually, chmod +x it and then do /etc/init.d/blah start
[06:23] <OmegaCenti> jacktheripper: is that part of upstart?
[06:23] <nny> is there an ubuntu developer or other channel I could ask questions of a different nature
[06:23] <dr_willis> .xinitrc really isent used much under ubuntu. :)
[06:23] <OmegaCenti> !xinitrc
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinitrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <jacktheripper> john`, you hae to redo it every time you reboot...cuz the cd is read only :)
[06:23] <OmegaCenti> !ini
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ini - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <OmegaCenti> !init
[06:23] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[06:23] <dr_willis> OmegaCenti,  and its NOT part of upstart
[06:23] <OmegaCenti> Then what is upstart
[06:23] <OmegaCenti> !upstart
[06:23] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[06:23] <jacktheripper> i dont know what upstart is
[06:23] <dr_willis> upstart is the replacemebnt for the 'sysv' init system.
[06:23] <dr_willis> that ubuntu developed.
[06:23] <OmegaCenti> What is sysv init system.
[06:23] <killown> Errors were encountered while processing:     /var/cache/apt/archives/nautilus-data_1%3a2.18.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb   "I am upgrade system edgy for feisty and I get it problem I cannot upgrade system because it error
[06:23] <jacktheripper> upstart isnt related to your question then omega
[06:23] <Hazarath> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=464682&highlight=ThinkPad+R31 I see how to fix my problem, but I donno how to apply the changes it specifies... help?
[06:23] <killown> anyone can help me;?
[06:24] <john`> jacktheripper: what do you mean by run it manually?
[06:24] <Hazarath> !ask killtown
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask killtown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <dr_willis> OmegaCenti,  sounds like a term you need to google for. :) thats one of the main "init systems" used bylinux and other os's - its been around for ages.
[06:24] <Lunar_Lamp> Why is there no linux-restricted-modules package for server kernels? :-(
[06:24] <Hazarath> Opps. heh.
[06:24] <OmegaCenti> when my computer shutsdown and starts up and does things, thats what interests me. What is the correct place to look for?
[06:24] <jacktheripper> john`, just do /blah/blah/blah/thefileyouchmoded and that will execute it
[06:24] <dr_willis> OmegaCenti,  its documented all over the place. Theres where all the rc.d and rc2.d stuff comes from
[06:24] <OmegaCenti> dr_willis: I have been googling since 3am this morning :) (its 11 now)
[06:24] <dr_willis> OmegaCenti,  each runlevel has a set of scripts - that get ran
[06:24] <jacktheripper> john`, you run it yourself after making it executable vs rebooting
[06:24] <jos> Hi all, I tried to configure Evolution to connect to MSExchange but it tells me that the connector is only compatible w/Exchange 2000 and 2003 and that the server I'm trying to connect is 5.5. the server is actually Echange2003. Any ideas? Thanks
[06:24] <nny> is there an ubuntu developer or other channel I could ask questions of a different nature
[06:24] <dr_willis> OmegaCenti,  look in /etc/init.d for the scripts.
[06:25] <OmegaCenti> dr_willis: see I didn't even know about rc.d and rc2.d
[06:25] <ahmed> hi
[06:25] <HyperDevil> what is the difference between the desktop and the server ubuntu 7.04??
[06:25] <dr_willis> OmegaCenti,  you got a lot of reading to do then. :)
[06:25] <Flannel> Lunar_Lamp: just use the generic kernel if you need restricted modules
[06:25] <OmegaCenti> dr_willis: I enjoy reading, just need to find the right question so I can find the right manual
[06:25] <john`> so in boot mode I can press e to edit and type in /etc/init.d/rc
[06:25] <john`> ?
[06:25] <Flannel> HyperDevil: the programs installed by default
[06:25] <CVD__> helloo
[06:25] <john`> or is this in a cd?
[06:25] <jacktheripper> john`, lol no
[06:25] <CppIsWeird> anyone know of any program to design ERD's for sql databases?
[06:25] <HyperDevil> Flannel, what programs?
[06:25] <OmegaCenti> dr_willis: Sometimes thats the most important part.. Knowing the question
[06:25] <dr_willis> OmegaCenti,  more /etc/init.d/README  for a start. :)
[06:25] <Flannel> HyperDevil: server has no GUI by default
[06:26] <ewook> HyperDevil: more or less with or without a gui.
[06:26] <OmegaCenti> dr_willis: That, my friend. is EVEN better. ;)
[06:26] <HyperDevil> thanks :)
[06:26] <jacktheripper> john`, just boot the cd like normal, then when you get in and after you chmod the file you can manually execute the file to start whatever service you were trying to start
[06:26] <john`> jacktheripper: can you give me step by step, I am kind of new, sorry =(
[06:26] <Lunar_Lamp> Flannel, that works I guess, alas, it draws in the generic kernel, so doesn't use the server kernel.  I'm converting this to a desktop system anyway, so don't mind, but otheres might.
[06:26] <dr_willis> OmegaCenti,  "sysv" is the init system. upstartis a replacement for that system. that isbackwards copatiable.
[06:26] <jacktheripper> john`, you havent even told us what you are trying to do
[06:26] <tolremedios> terra.es
[06:26] <dr_willis> its actually spelt SysV i think.  :)
[06:26] <tolremedios> terra.es
[06:26] <OmegaCenti> dr_willis: is init system the startup portion?
[06:26] <Hazarath> How do I edit my settings as specified in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=464682&highlight=ThinkPad+R31 ?
[06:26] <yurri> hey
[06:27] <john`> I accidently deactivate chmod -x /etc/init.d/rc in ubuntu now I can't boot up anymore
[06:27] <yurri> i am having truoble
[06:27] <jacktheripper> john`, ohhh :)
[06:27] <Flannel> Lunar_Lamp: If it's a desktop, you're going to want the generic kernel anyway, because you want PREEMPT.
[06:27] <nny> hey i had found a great piece of software for remastering debian install cds (ala ubuntu) but the name escapes me. Anyone have a lead?
[06:27] <dr_willis> john`,  yep. that will do it. :)
[06:27] <sn-> make-live nny ?
[06:27] <jacktheripper> john`, ok so boot the cd, mount your root partition mount /dev/??? /mnt/blah;  and then chmod +x /mnt/blah/etc/init.d/rc
[06:27] <Lunar_Lamp> Flannel, hmm, not sure what PREEMPT is - what's that?
[06:27] <john`> so can you give me instruction step by step how to do it?
[06:27] <jacktheripper> john`, done :)
[06:27] <john`> ahh
[06:27] <yurri> how do i sli in ubuntu?
[06:28] <john`> do I have to create a folder for that?
[06:28] <dr_willis> john`,  boot a live cd.  get a root shell, cd over to the dir, and chmod +x it.
[06:28] <jacktheripper> ya create the blah folder
[06:28] <Flannel> Lunar_Lamp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization ?
[06:28] <sn-> nny i believe its make-live, to make your own livecd etc
[06:28] <jacktheripper> in /mnt/
[06:28] <nny> sn mayhaps.. met me google.. all i remember is that it was intuitive, had a gui, and did an excellent job. I just built an asterisk system in ubuntu, and i want to back it up
[06:28] <Flannel> er, sorry.  nny, that was for you.
[06:28] <sn-> from the package live-helper
[06:29] <bronze> What do I have to install to get mplayer support for 0x162 . I got the error when watching a windows media h264 videl.
[06:29] <bronze> video*
[06:29] <OmegaCenti> !init
[06:29] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[06:29] <john`> how can I check all my device hardrive in console?
[06:29] <nny> Flannel, sn i think make-live was it on the nose, let me try, ty ty
[06:29] <Hazarath> Ok, let's they this another way... how do I open/edit '/boot/grub/menu.lst'?
[06:29] <jacktheripper> john`, fdisk -l
[06:29] <yurri> how do i sli in ubuntu?
[06:29] <Hazarath> ^try
[06:29] <dr_willis> Hazarath,  sudo gedit /path/to/the/thing
[06:29] <john`> thanks
[06:30] <chadeldridge> hazarath:  sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:30] <yurri> =P
[06:30] <dr_willis> Hazarath,  or use some other editor.
[06:30] <jclark4> hey
[06:30] <ndee> hello there, I try to mount a NFS share, here is my /etc/exports file: /media/BACKUP/d <IP_ADDRESS>(rw) then, I try to mount that from the client with mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/media/BACKUP/d /var/mnt/nfs but I get a "Permission denied", What could be wrong?
[06:30] <Flannel> Lunar_Lamp: basically the desktop kernel has stuff (like PREEMPT) which allows hardware interrupts (like the mouse, etc) to interrupt already running processes, makes it more responsive.  Wikipedia covers it well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preemption_%28computing%29
[06:30] <jclark4> I have an external usb dvd-rw drive. can ne1 help ?
[06:30] <Chadders> so ok I am into a live Ubuntu cd. what do I need to delete to restore the kernel?
[06:30] <yurri> looking for help with sli
[06:30] <Lunar_Lamp> Flannel, thanks :-)
[06:30] <jacktheripper> Chadders, delete the 64-bit module you added or whatever id assume
[06:31] <Chadders> ahhh ok sounds go
[06:31] <jacktheripper> Chadders, find -name ??? /var/lib/modules/`uname -a`
[06:31] <Chadders> ok mate i'm looking now.
[06:31] <jclark4> I have an external usb dvd-rw drive. can ne1 help ?
[06:31] <chadeldridge> jclark4: what is your question ?
[06:31] <jclark4> well
[06:31] <jacktheripper> Chadders, i dont know if thats how ndis wrapper works...but if it borked your kernel it must :)  its probably in /var/lib/modules/`uname -a`/drivers/ iirc
[06:31] <jclark4> trying to mount it, so that I can burn an .iso image with it. I connected it to a running 7.04 desktop that I have
[06:32] <jacktheripper> err not /var
[06:32] <ndee> re
[06:32] <jacktheripper> Chadders, no /var/ just /lib/modules :/
[06:32] <GhostFreeman> Has anyone here had any success running Photoshop CS in Feisty
[06:32] <chadeldridge> jclark4:  once you plug the device in it should automount in ubuntu desktop
[06:32] <jacktheripper> how come everytime i remove a package it removes ubuntu-desktop?  is ubuntu-desktop safe to remove
[06:32] <aubade> How do you build up a neat deb package after building from source?
[06:33] <jclark4> how can i verify?
[06:33] <jclark4> lsusb ?
[06:33] <aubade> jacktheripper: ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package for making upgrades easier, it's safe to remove.
[06:33] <Niklas-> What can be the reason for a computer not being able to ping itself? Not even <IP_ADDRESS>?
[06:33] <chadeldridge> jclark4:  or just put a blank disk in it ... you will get a menu
[06:33] <sn-> aubade depending how you compiled, part of the compiling process is creating a .deb automatically
[06:33] <jacktheripper> Niklas-, what does ifconfig -a say
[06:33] <PriceChild> aubade, you might want to search for the debian new maintainers guide
[06:33] <yurri> hey can anyone help me with sli nvidiaS?
[06:33] <chadeldridge> yurri: what is your question ?
[06:33] <sn-> something like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[06:33] <jacktheripper> yurri, you want my xp cd key?
[06:33] <PriceChild> jacktheripper, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage _REQUIRED_ for upgrades
[06:34] <jclark4> chadeldridge: no dice
[06:34] <Niklas-> jacktheripper: the computer is running fine over the network, and other machines can ping it - it just cant ping itself
[06:34] <yurri> i can get sli working
[06:34] <jacktheripper> Niklas-, are you root user?
[06:34] <Niklas-> yes
[06:34] <chadeldridge> jclark4:  does lsusb see the device ?
[06:34] <yurri> i have used envy
[06:34] <aubade> PriceChild: shivy, documentation is always welcome. X)
[06:34] <jclark4> chadeldridge: checking.....
[06:34] <jacktheripper> Niklas-, hmm,,,,,, something dumb with icmp packets
[06:34] <OmegaCenti> Is it of use to a normal user of Linux to read the Advanced bash scripting guide/
[06:34] <OmegaCenti> ?
[06:34] <jacktheripper> Niklas-, are you running a firewall
[06:34] <PriceChild> aubade, documentation is the only way when packaging ;)
[06:34] <yurri> jacktheripper sure
[06:34] <magnet> Niklas-: no loopback interface
[06:35] <jacktheripper> yurri, lolol
[06:35] <Niklas-> jacktheripper: no, it's not only icmp, is everything (web, irc server), i cannot connect to anything locally
[06:35] <PriceChild> !envy | yurri
[06:35] <ubotu> yurri: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[06:35] <OmegaCenti> I'm trying to go further in my understanding of linux, but I seem to be at a crossroads as to what to do. I want to learn more, but I feel I am jumping in too far.
[06:35] <jacktheripper> ahh magnet is right
[06:35] <Niklas-> No, i have my lo interface
[06:35] <jacktheripper> :/
[06:35] <Niklas-> http://www.pastebin.ca/595637
[06:35] <rambo3> Niklas-, any proxy ?
[06:35] <jclark4> chadeldridge: no....the usb light on the drive blinks for awhile....then it goes out.
[06:35] <Jammer> OmegaCenti, you can do many useful things with little scripting :-)
[06:35] <yurri> hmmmm ubotu dont use envy/?
[06:36] <jclark4> chadeldridge: nothing listed in lsusb for it either
[06:36] <chadeldridge> jclark4:  but the device is not showing in lsusb ?
[06:36] <magnet> Niklas-: what you pasted doesn't say so
[06:36] <OmegaCenti> Jammer: don't.. know where to start though :(
[06:36] <jclark4> chadeldridge: not that i can see
[06:36] <Chadders> ok i can see the ubuntu install on the harddrive where would the ndiswrapper drivers be?
[06:36] <yurri> so which nvidia drivers should i install?
[06:36] <chadeldridge> jclark4:  check dmesg when you plug it in .. are you getting something there ?
[06:36] <yurri> i hav 2 x 8800GTX
[06:36] <Niklas-> magnet: because i did a `ifconfig eth1`..
[06:36] <jacktheripper> Chadders, didnt i say probably in /lib/modules/`uname -a`/drivers or something
[06:36] <chadeldridge> !nvidia | yurri
[06:36] <ubotu> yurri: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:36] <magnet> Niklas-: doing so doesn't imply having a loopback interface
[06:37] <Niklas-> i *know*
[06:37] <magnet> ok
[06:37] <Niklas-> look at the routing table instead, you will see the route for lo interface
[06:37] <Chadders> i looked there mate but my name isnt there nor are the drivers
[06:37] <bronze> What do I have to install to get mplayer support for 0x162 . I got the error when watching a windows media h264 videl.
[06:37] <yurri> chadeldridge you want me to type !nvidia
[06:37] <jclark4> chadeldridge: checking.....
[06:37] <yurri> or use the nvidia website chadeldridge???
[06:37] <magnet> indeed
[06:37] <chadeldridge> use the site the bot gave out
[06:38] <Niklas-> no idea whats going on :/
[06:38] <Jammer> OmegaCenti, well start from basics and move your way up... Scripting itself doesn't teach you much about your system but it can make your life easier
[06:38] <jclark4> chadeldridge: yes
[06:38] <jclark4> chadeldridge: seeing some stuff in there
[06:39] <chadeldridge> jclark4:  would you mind pastebin ing it .. so i can see it
[06:39] <OmegaCenti> # To enable the settings / commands in this file for login shells as well,
[06:39] <OmegaCenti> # this file has to be sourced in /etc/profile.
[06:39] <OmegaCenti> What does that mean?
[06:39] <jacktheripper> Chadders, do you haev another kernel in grub that you can boot?
[06:39] <yurri> ?
[06:39] <chadeldridge> !paste | jclark4
[06:39] <ubotu> jclark4: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:39] <yurri> what driver do i use
[06:39] <yurri> '?
[06:39] <susz> can anyone help me with a dist upgrade crash?
[06:39] <jacktheripper> Chadders, i dont know anything about ndis wrapper or how it modified and borked your kerenl
[06:39] <chadeldridge> yurri:  just get the newest driver from nvidia and install it using the directions .. should work out of the box for you
[06:40] <Chadders> I installed ubuntu as it said out of the cd as it were. not sure on the other kernel?
[06:40] <Jammer> OmegaCenti, I think it means it isn't automatically executed after you login unless so specified in /etc/profile
[06:40] <yurri> and the sli?
[06:40] <Chadders> i also changed the graphics i beleive to support something else.
[06:40] <chadeldridge> nothing special about sli .. the driver should take care of it
[06:40] <Chadders> i wouldnt mind just installing the whole thing again but i dont want to ruin my dual boot.
[06:40] <level1> my compy hasn't been suspending correctly.  Most of the time it works beautifully, but sometimes it does kinda a failed suspend, where the fans and usb devices turn off, but the processor is still running... I'm worried that its going to damage my processor (overheating)
[06:41] <sebrock> Anyone knows why my portmap starts twice during boot?
[06:41] <jacktheripper> Chadders, im sorry, but maybe someone else can help you fix it....sounds like you just want to put a new kernel on it
[06:41] <yurri> chadeldridge and sli will be working?
[06:41] <newtubuntu> wondering why I lose my panels (top and bottom) in workspaces I create ?
[06:41] <chadeldridge> yurri: should be yes
[06:42] <jclark4> chadeldridge: brain fart.....copying from xterm? ctrl-c ????
[06:42] <Chadders> anyone got any ideas on repairing ubuntu?
[06:42] <chadeldridge> jclark4:  yeah  ... mouse highlight and ctrl x
[06:42] <chadeldridge> c
[06:42] <chadeldridge> i mean
[06:43] <john`> jacktheripper: yay thanks, it works =) but I have a question, how come I don't see the /mnt folder in ubuntu cd even after I show all hidden files, is it just there?
[06:43] <newtubuntu> how much RAM is required/recommended to run Beryl smoothly ? (without getting black/white windows)
[06:43] <chadeldridge> jclark4:  forgive me ... its shift ctrl c
[06:43] <Scunizi> Chadders, what's up .. or broke I should say.
[06:43] <jacktheripper> john`, i have no idea...they must be protecting people from discovering /mnt
[06:44] <john`> weird..
[06:44] <john`> is there a way you know how to see it?
[06:44] <john`> beside the console
[06:44] <chadeldridge> newtubuntu:  ram is not as much of an issue as the video card ... some nvidea cards cause the black screens ... try running beryl using aiglx and it will fix that issue
[06:44] <john`> er terminal
[06:44] <ahmed> i need to play EA sports on ubuntu
[06:44] <jacktheripper> john`, i only use the console for my file management...so no
[06:44] <ahmed> any one can help me
[06:44] <jclark4> chadeldridge: done
[06:44] <john`> how do you make a folder in terminal?
[06:44] <john`> mkdir?
[06:44] <chadeldridge> jclark4:  toss me the link
[06:44] <jclark4> chadeldridge: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27795/
[06:44] <jacktheripper> ahmed, do you have a day to waste?
[06:44] <chadeldridge> john:  mkdir
[06:45] <john`> thanks
[06:45] <ahmed> no
[06:45] <newtubuntu> john: sudo mkdir
[06:45] <ahmed> but is it impossible
[06:45] <rambo3> anyone | ahmed
[06:45] <jacktheripper> ahmed, i doubt you could get it running well
[06:45] <rambo3> !anyone | ahmed
[06:45] <ubotu> ahmed: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:45] <malk> hi, i need help
[06:45] <Scunizi> john: sudo mkdir if the folder is below your home directory.. just mkdir if it's in your home directory.
[06:45] <susz> please can someone help?  My laptop crashed during upgrade to feisty
[06:46] <jacktheripper> ahmed, if it runs at all (wine/winex) then it would probably run badly...and you wuoldnt like the result
[06:46] <jacktheripper> just guessing
[06:46] <chadeldridge> jclark4:  are you connecting this device to a usb hub?  if so can you try to connect it directly to the pc instead ?
[06:46] <El_Burro> evening all
[06:46] <Scunizi> Chadders, you around.. you asked.. I just logged on.. didn't see any previously posted message.
[06:46] <ahmed> iam  succeeded  in runing quack4 and doom 3 and World of war craft
[06:46] <El_Burro> bravo
[06:46] <jclark4> chadeldridge: im plugging it into the back of the box itself
[06:46] <ahmed> and soldier of fortune
[06:46] <jacktheripper> ahmed, quake4 and doom3 have native linux binaries
[06:47] <jacktheripper> which means they will run better than on windows
[06:47] <an1> hi all, i'm new to ubuntu, just installed a 6.10 on an ppc ibook, and a friend told me with a simple line in the console i can activace airport, anybody who knows that?
[06:47] <yurri> hey
[06:47] <jacktheripper> if you used wine for thsoe games lolol
[06:47] <yurri> so how do i fix the xorg.confg
[06:47] <ahmed> but wat about cedega
[06:47] <la_wapilla> ola
[06:47] <malk> can anybody help me
[06:47] <jacktheripper> xorg-setup? xorg-cfg?  xorg-config etc
[06:47] <la_wapilla> ola
[06:47] <Charles_Xavier> I put my hand up on your hip! When I dip, you dip, we dip!
[06:48] <jacktheripper> ahmed, cedega is winex....  get the native linux binaries for quake4 and doom3 if you want good performance :)   otherwise /j #cedega for support
[06:48] <rambo3> !wifi | an1
[06:48] <ubotu> an1: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:48] <la_wapilla> komo va sto'
[06:48] <Scunizi> !ask | malk-brasil
[06:48] <ubotu> malk-brasil: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:48] <la_wapilla> ske es la primeras vez ke me meto
[06:48] <bronze> What do I have to install to get mplayer support for 0x162 . I got the error when watching a windows media h264 videl.
[06:48] <malk-brasil> hi
[06:48] <an1> thx, i'll check out
[06:48] <bronze> video*
[06:48] <chadeldridge> jclark4:  i am not actually seeing the usb drive on your dmesg .. just the hub itself so I am a bit lost
[06:48] <malk-brasil> a have a problem with my keyboard and mouse wifi
[06:49] <Scunizi> !restricted | bronze
[06:49] <ubotu> bronze: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:49] <arcad3> yurri: in /etc/X11 u have a xorg.conf bacup. Delete xorg.conf then rename the backup as xorg.conf
[06:49] <jclark4> chadeldridge: yeah makes no sense to me either
[06:49] <m1r> how can i set a program to start right after gnome-splash and before gnome desktop taskbar loads ?
[06:49] <jacktheripper> ahmed, http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4  http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/
[06:49] <malk-brasil> work in boot, work in grub...but dont work in grub !!!  why ???
[06:49] <rambo3> malk-brasil, batteries ?
[06:49] <yurri> ...
[06:49] <arcad3> m1r:System>Preferances>Sessions
[06:49] <yurri> arcad3 that doesnt make sense
[06:50] <malk-brasil> rambo3: no no no
[06:50] <m1r> tnx arcad3 i check
[06:50] <ahmed> if i can play games on ubuntu i can make 60% windows users use ubuntu i n egypt
[06:50] <jacktheripper> malk-brasil,  work in boot, work in grub...but dont work in grub !!!  why ???
[06:50] <ahmed> within 2 month
[06:50] <chadeldridge> jclark4:  i have read a ton of issues with usb devices not working in ubuntu, but i have never actually found 1 myself that didnt work.  Hate to say it, but it seems there is just something about that device that isnt playing nice.  Maybe someone else can figure it out
[06:50] <arcad3> ahmed u can paly windows games on ubuntu
[06:50] <ahmed> how ?
[06:50] <arcad3> with wine
[06:50] <raf256>  sudo echo "<IP_ADDRESS> limcore.etudeng.ee" >>  /etc/hosts    says /etc/hosts permission dany, wtf, why?
[06:50] <susz> is there a way to recover if feisty upgrade crashes.  I can log in to edgy still via grub but no network.  please help!
[06:50] <chadeldridge> arcad3:  poorly
[06:50] <arcad3> !wine
[06:50] <kdubois> or cedega
[06:50] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:50] <jclark4> chadeldridge: so on the back of my machine there's a bunch of usb ports.  possibly those ports are seen as a hub.  so, is there a way to see if the hub itself is enabled/disabled
[06:50] <jacktheripper> ....
[06:51] <ahmed> but transforming isnot good
[06:51] <jacktheripper> raf256, its trying to execute the hosts file
[06:51] <bronze> Can anyone tell me how to get a terminal in my background? I've tried the devilspie thingy but it gave me an error.
[06:51] <chadeldridge> jclark4:  your ports are all listed ... can you try another one for giggles ?
[06:51] <HymnToLife> raf256,     echo "<IP_ADDRESS> limcore.etudeng.ee" | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts
[06:51] <raf256> oh damn indeed htanks
[06:51] <m1r> arcad3 can i PM you ?
[06:51] <arcad3> yes
[06:51] <HymnToLife> jacktheripper, no, it's not, it's trying to write to it but does not have the permission
[06:51] <jacktheripper> !ohmy | raf256
[06:51] <ubotu> raf256: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:52] <raf256> oh dear!
[06:52] <malk-brasil> anybody ?
[06:52] <jacktheripper> HymnToLife, its trying to execute it
[06:52] <jacktheripper> i know this for a fact
[06:52] <troy> Linux newbie, I'm trying to make real player my plugin for mozilla, how do I do this
[06:53] <Praboy> In google there are many tutorials
[06:53] <HymnToLife> jacktheripper, no, it is not
[06:53] <jacktheripper> HymnToLife, fine then
[06:53] <malk-brasil> my mouse and keyboard work in boot, work in grub...but dont work in grub !!!  why ???
[06:53] <malk-brasil> my mouse and keyboard work in boot, work in grub...but dont work in gdm !!!  why ???
[06:53] <malk-brasil> GDM
[06:53] <ndee> in which package is "exportfs"?
[06:53] <jacktheripper> malk-brasil, /j #ubuntu-es
[06:54] <cor_> malk-brasil: the drivers for wireless keyb and mouse are not loaded in grub
[06:54] <jclark4> chadeldridge: same thing.
[06:54] <malk-brasil> no no no, not grub...GDM !
[06:54] <jacktheripper> malk-brasil, oh you fixed it... GDM huh, well thats your xorg.conf
[06:54] <chadeldridge> jclark4:  right after pluggin that device in can you pastebin me the dmesg | tail ?
[06:54] <ptr1234> I'd like to be able to do things like reinstall grub after a windows install, but I don't want to use the ubuntu live cd. What could I do?
[06:54] <cor_> ah yes
[06:54] <jacktheripper> change the mouse device do /dev/input/mice probably
[06:55] <jacktheripper> i dont know about the keyboard device or whatever
[06:55] <chadeldridge> ptr1234:  you could use the gparted live cd if you have some hatred of the ubuntu live cd ... otherwise any partition utility that can set a part active will work
[06:55] <QwertyM> will a 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' give me the exact KDE desktop like the Kubuntu CD will ?
[06:55] <Scunizi> ptr1234, why don't you want to use the live cd?  That's usually the best way. Instructions can be found at http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[06:55] <QwertyM> like, an exact replica ?
[06:56] <ahmed> i have download and install wine from synaptic packages manager
[06:56] <HymnToLife> chadeldridge, the GParted Live CD cannot reinstall Grub
[06:56] <yurri> ummmm
[06:56] <aroo> QwertyM: It should, yes
[06:56] <chadeldridge> HymmToLife:  I am assuming he means to fix grub after a windows install
[06:56] <ahmed> but ididnot find it on applications
[06:56] <m1r> arcad3 , PM
[06:56] <chadeldridge> windows replaces the mbr
[06:56] <QwertyM> aroo, ok thank you
[06:56] <yurri> i just check the nvidia website and it says 8800GTX not supported
[06:56] <HymnToLife> chadeldridge, yes, meaning that Grub needs to be reinstalled onto the MBR
[06:56] <QwertyM> aroo, cause it just asked for some 500~ MB free space
[06:56] <ptr1234> Scunizi, takes to long hehe
[06:57] <aroo> QwertyM: Installing kubuntu desktop will have tons of dependencies
[06:57] <iphv37> people! i'm in a live session trying to format and set the new partitions.. but when i set the first new partition, it appears like /dev/hda5 !! if i create a primary partition, it appears the same and i can not create any other!!!
[06:57] <ahmed> i have installed wine
[06:57] <aroo> QwertyM: It's the entire KDE desktop + lots more
[06:57] <ahmed> on ubuntu
[06:57] <chadeldridge> HymmToLife:  true sorry, 20 questions later and my brain is gettin thin
[06:57] <ahmed> by synaptic packages manager
[06:57] <HymnToLife> iphv37, do you have a question ?
[06:57] <ahmed> but ididnot find it
[06:57] <QwertyM> aroo, yeah, I want the KDE and its software to work fine along with my gnome
[06:57] <bluefox83> iphv37, don't worry, so long as your boot loader knows where your primary partition is, it will still work
[06:57] <Scunizi> ptr1234, maybe.. but you have to get to a terminal prompt somehow in linux to do it.  If you can't boot into the installed sys, you're left with a live cd.
[06:57] <Praboy> praboy
[06:58] <ahmed> any one know how can setup wine
[06:58] <chapium> QwertyM: kdebase and kdelibs will probably be installed
[06:58] <chadeldridge> ahmed:  sudo apt-get install wine
[06:59] <QwertyM> chapium, um, I want to use KDE as well actually :-)
[06:59] <jclark4> chadeldridge: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27798/
[06:59] <QwertyM> chapium, so a kubuntu-desktop installation should do me good I guess?
[06:59] <susz> help!  I need to get my machine working, if only on edgy but feisty upgrade broke both
[06:59] <aroo> QwertyM: I have read of weirdnesses caused by kde/gnome together such as broken shortcuts, etc
[06:59] <iphv37> bluefox83, but how do i format the entire disk to then, while installing, make the partitions starting in /dev/hda1 ??
[06:59] <ptr1234> chadeldridge, Scunizi isn't there a way to burn a bootable cd which has that interpreter and all the programs needed to install grub to the boot sector?
[06:59] <ahmed> wine is already exist
[06:59] <ferronica>  there is new version of Nicotine available how to upgrade my old nicotine or ubuntu will update it ???
[06:59] <ahmed> but i canot find it
[06:59] <QwertyM> aroo, chapium, or do you suggest a different installation?
[06:59] <bluefox83> iphv37, tell it to use entire disk
[06:59] <chadeldridge> ahmed:  type winefile
[07:00] <ahmed> in terminal
[07:00] <QwertyM> aroo, yeah it happens a few times, back when I used them both on Fedora
[07:00] <aroo> QwertyM: I've never actually had both installed at the same time so I can't suggest anything
[07:00] <Scunizi> ptr1234, maybe, but you'll spend much more time trying to figure that one out than just booting to a live cd.
[07:00] <chadeldridge> ptr1234:  i am sure there is .. but the live cd will take you 5 mins to book
[07:00] <ahmed> ine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\file.exe": Module not found
[07:00] <chadeldridge> boot
[07:00] <iphv37> but using the entire disk, may i set the partitions as i want?
[07:00] <chadeldridge> ahmed no spaces ... just  winefile
[07:00] <QwertyM> aroo, okay, I'll just try it out then, I can remove it afterall, if something goes wrong, its Linux :)
[07:01] <chadeldridge> ahmed:  to start an exe application just type wine name_of_file
[07:01] <iphv37> bluefox83: but using the entire disk, may i set the partitions as i want?
[07:01] <yurri> how do  i get sli WORKING?
[07:01] <ahmed> many thanks
[07:01] <ahmed> chadeldridge
[07:02] <bluefox83> iphv37, uhm..i don't really remember...if you want to set your own, you might want to chose custom, and then slide the bars where you want them...
[07:02] <toed> I'm using ubuntu feisty and I used to have a fancy osd whenever I used the keyboard to change the brightness on my thinkpad, but I don't seem to get it anymore, although the keys to change brightness still work
[07:02] <ahmed> if i need to learn terminale
[07:02] <chadeldridge> yurri:  what card do you have again ?
[07:02] <bluefox83> net split D:
[07:02] <toed> and I still get the osd for volume
[07:02] <yurri> 2x8800gtx
[07:02] <ahmed> i just start with linux 2 day ago
[07:02] <chadeldridge> yurri:  google is your friend --- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=484283
[07:02] <ahmed> and i need to learn it
[07:02] <ahmed> how can i
[07:02] <bronze> ahmed, welcome then :)
[07:02] <bluefox83> ahmed, welcome to linux!
[07:02] <bronze> !terminal | ahmed
[07:02] <ubotu> ahmed: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:03] <iphv37> bluefox83: there's the problem! when i set the partitions, it starts in /dev/hda5 !!
[07:03] <DrkCodeman> ahmed, learn the command: man
[07:03] <DrkCodeman> learn it well
[07:03] <kinections> how do I update Ubuntu 6.06 to 7.04 ?
[07:03] <yurri> chadeldridge that doesnt fix my problem
[07:03] <bluefox83> iphv37, i think that's swap partition...
[07:03] <aroo> kinections: by installing fresh
[07:03] <pramz> ahmed, what exactly do you want to learn ?
[07:03] <kinections> aroo: there is no way to update from 6.06->6.10->7.04?
[07:04] <ferronica>  there is new version of Nicotine available how to upgrade my old nicotine or ubuntu will update it ???
[07:04] <iphv37> bluefox83: ?!?
[07:04] <ahmed> i need to learn how to configure network with linux
[07:04] <Scunizi> kinections, move /home to its own partition then reinstall fresh
[07:04] <sebrock> which log will show me why portmap is trying to load two times upon boot?
[07:04] <ahmed> iam working in ISP co
[07:04] <aroo> kinections: I have no idea since I've never done it, but I'm sure it would be infinitely easier to keep /home on its own partition and install fresh
[07:04] <aroo> kinections: at least that's what I do
[07:04] <ahmed> but all my life i was dealing with windows
[07:04] <ahmed> but now i need to prepare my self
[07:04] <bluefox83> iphv37, /dev/hda5 is usually the swap partition...
[07:04] <kinections> aroo: well this was a fresh install so there's no need to back up home there's nothing in it
[07:04] <ahmed> so iam thinking in linux
[07:05] <pramz> ahmed, i would recommend buying a good book about managing linux machines. I recommend Running Linux by O'Reilly to get you started.
[07:05] <aroo> kinections: I am not talking about backing up /home
[07:05] <aroo> kinections: I'm talking about permanently keeping /home on its own partition
[07:05] <jacktheripper> pranz, s/managing/mangling/
[07:05] <ahmed> i need box to read
[07:05] <jacktheripper> ahmed, just install slackware
[07:05] <aroo> kinections: but if you're saying /home is empty, then I guess it woudl be useless for you
[07:05] <ahmed> i have install ubuntu
[07:05] <ahmed> with beryl
[07:05] <kinections> aroo: ah, does ubuntu do that by default? i'm helping someone over MSN on installing ubuntu, i don't want to explain to him how to partition
[07:05] <jacktheripper> you will learn linux faster :p  you will learn ubuntu on ubuntu...not linux ;o
[07:05] <ahmed> and really it's fantastic
[07:05] <iphv37> bluefox83: in this case, any kind of first partition created starts in /dev/hda5 .. then, /dev/hda6 and so on!
[07:06] <lmc_phx1> jacktheripper, tell me about slackware plz
[07:06] <mirak> hi
[07:06] <pramz> ahmed, it really depends on what aspects of Linux you want to learn
[07:06] <Pici> !offtopic
[07:06] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:06] <bluefox83> iphv37, are you using something on another partition?
[07:06] <pramz> if you are managing linux servers in your job, then I recommend taking an actual course
[07:06] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, its the most unixlike distro
[07:06] <aroo> kinections: you can do it with GParted on the LiveCD but only if you're comfortable with allocating disk space to certain partitions
[07:06] <aroo> kinections: if you don't want to explain partitions then it wouldn't help I guess :(
[07:06] <mirak> I have a problem with firestarter, after booting I need to restart it to have the routing occuring on the devices
[07:06] <mirak> for client pc
[07:06] <ahmed> any one tell me about which distribution is better to cybers and net cafe
[07:06] <aroo> kinections: I would sincerely suggest a fresh install though when it's a jump in 2 distribution versions like that
[07:07] <bluefox83> iphv37, i'm thinking the best idea would be to tell it to use the entire hard drive, let it format and partition, then go back and re-do the partitioning yourself
[07:07] <pramz> ahmed, it does not matter about the distribution, but you need sometjhing to calculate time used
[07:07] <newtubuntu> someone knows why I lose my top and bottom panels in workspaces I create ?
[07:07] <pramz> ahmed, and you can find some software options for that on freshmeat
[07:07] <kinections> aroo: yea, that's what i wanted to confirm, thanks.
[07:07] <Athanasius> is there a way to make ubuntu use more physical memory so that things load faster?  I have 3gb of memory
[07:07] <jacktheripper> can you typically compile things from freshmeat on ubuntu
[07:07] <vadroca> uu
[07:08] <vadroca> list
[07:08] <vadroca> !list
[07:08] <lmc_phx1> jacktheripper, on a day to day basis, what does that do for a guy? My only true unix experience is AIX from the way back machine and I find ubuntu much more useful, easy etc.
[07:08] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:08] <sebrock> which log shows the boot process?
[07:08] <aroo> Athanasius: processes only use as much as they need
[07:08] <pramz> jacktheripper, yea you can compile it but you might need to know how to make packages
[07:08] <aroo> Athanasius: allocating extra to a process that doesn't require it will do nothing
[07:08] <pramz> jacktheripper, debian-administration.net has a great howto on that
[07:08] <ahmed> all what i need
[07:08] <Athanasius> oh, ok
[07:08] <pramz> .org i mean
[07:08] <iphv37> bluefox83: ok! i thought it was an easy way to do that.. because if i continue with "using entire disk" it will make all the installation....
[07:08] <ahmed> playing interesting games
[07:08] <pramz> jacktheripper, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/337
[07:08] <ahmed> and networking
[07:08] <iphv37> bluefox83: anyway, thanks!
[07:08] <ahmed> calculate time
[07:09] <ahmed> video and sound is no problem
[07:09] <bluefox83> iphv37, there is an option to stop after it's done formatting and pertitioning..
[07:09] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, it just works, stays out of your way, is stable, isnt dumbed down, simple config files control everything, /etc/rc.d/ simple bsd init scripts, doesnt have a dependency resolving package manager (which actually simplifies things)
[07:09] <pramz> ahmed, you will have to search for cybercafe software to manage the machines and calculate time+billing. We cannot help you with that here
[07:09] <ferronica>  there is new version of Nicotine available how to upgrade my old nicotine or ubuntu will update it ???
[07:09] <sebrock> which log shows the boot process?
[07:09] <ahmed> umm
[07:09] <iphv37> hmm.. ok! i'll see!! ty!
[07:09] <ahmed> ok thanks pramz
[07:09] <pramz> ahmed, you need to buy a book on Linux to learn linux faster.
[07:09] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, simplicity simplicity simplicity
[07:10] <iphv37> c ya'll later!
[07:10] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, did i mention its fast and stable
[07:10] <bluefox83> ferronica, if it's available in the repos, just  update in synaptic, and upgrade it..
[07:10] <ahmed> okey is no way to get online
[07:10] <ahmed> free pdf
[07:10] <ikonia> ahmed: this is ubuntu support
[07:10] <aroo> ahmed what is your native language
[07:10] <ahmed> arabic
[07:10] <ahmed> iam from egypt
[07:10] <jacktheripper> ferronica, you have to wait for some random guy to update the nicotine files on the repository....you may be waiting a few months
[07:10] <pramz> ahmed, you might be able to find torrents on it, but I don't really recommend copyright violations of any sort
[07:11] <ahmed> umm
[07:11] <aroo> ahmed: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[07:11] <pramz> ahmed, since it is something which will benefit you, its wise to buy it :)
[07:11] <lmc_phx1> jacktheripper, I certainly agree with that from a server perspective. I cant find a linux distro I am truly comfortable with from a security perspective. Seems like the automated installs add so much more than you need
[07:11] <jacktheripper> ferronica, you can try to install it yourself, with nicotine i believe all you do is ./nicotine or python ./nicotine
[07:11] <susz> is there a way to ensure that edgy -> feisty upgrade doesn't fail?
[07:11] <treyesh> hi
[07:11] <lmc_phx1> jacktheripper, but I have been loading different flavors for about 5 years waiting for one that would make a decent desktop and I finally found it!
[07:12] <mrfeetio> can rhythmbox get music of an i-pod?
[07:12] <treyesh> i need help with sound drivers
[07:12] <PriceChild> mrfeetio, can play it but not copy from afaik
[07:12] <chadeldridge> treyesh:  what is your question ?
[07:12] <susz> I have egdy cd but not feisty, and currently can't burn cd
[07:12] <mrfeetio> how can i copy it?
[07:12] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, security after full install:  chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.(things you dont like);  and then pico -w /etc/inetd.conf; (comment things out) killall -hup inetd
[07:12] <treyesh> i need help with sound drivers
[07:12] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, look further :p
[07:12] <ahmed> umm i mean opensource books
[07:12] <arcad3> mee too treyesh
[07:12] <ahmed> like wikipedia but more professional
[07:12] <bluefox83> susz, if you're 'going to upgrade, i would recommend letting the update manager handle the upgrade...
[07:12] <chadeldridge> that is not a question ...
[07:13] <susz> bluefox83: I did.  It crashed and now neither edgy or feisty will boot
[07:13] <asaup> how can i find my UUID ????????
[07:13] <treyesh> How  do I fix That
[07:13] <arcad3> !alsa
[07:13] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:13] <sebrock> can not anybody tell me why portmap is trying to start twice=???
[07:13] <iratik> help... can't sudo from any account -- still have a root account terminal open to fix it ...  sudo: pam_authenticate: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. - -- please help me!!
[07:13] <bluefox83> susz, what the heck, that sucks....
[07:13] <reverseblade> treyesh, also #alsa
[07:13] <susz> bluefox83: yup ;)
[07:13] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, with your background, you should probably download it :0
[07:14] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, 12.0 will be out in a month or so
[07:14] <susz> I want to try again, but think only chance atm is reinstalling from scratch
[07:14] <lmc_phx1> jacktheripper, of course. in my production boxes, I've done as much as I know how. I guess its a little fear factor. Do I really need nm-applet running? know what I mean
[07:15] <jacktheripper> nm-applet?
[07:15] <natbet> network-manager
[07:15] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, yuo wont find any of that
[07:15] <WIdea> susz: that is what I always do, backup home, fresh install and restore home again
[07:15] <treyesh> still need help
[07:15] <Scunizi> mrfeetio, try amorak.. after backing up your songs and playlists with gtkpod
[07:15] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, it only does what you tell it
[07:15] <natbet> no, only if you want to connect to wireless networks using wpa, and even then I wouldn't use it, I'd use wicd
[07:15] <susz> WIdea: problem is I can't but a feisty cd
[07:15] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, if you tell it to run kde, well somethign like nm-applet might pop up, i dont know
[07:15] <jacktheripper> i only use xfce4
[07:15] <natbet> the computer is a stupid machine, does exactly what it's told
[07:16] <treyesh> im still having problems
[07:16] <jacktheripper> matbet: not really true anymore
[07:16] <treyesh> with audio drivers
[07:16] <natbet> that's true, it's getting smarter
[07:16] <lmc_phx1> jacktheripper, I like that.
[07:16] <WIdea> susz: can't buy or boot?
[07:16] <jacktheripper> package managers can do things you dont want them tto do sometimes
[07:16] <susz> WIdea: sorry, burn.
[07:16] <mike24> I installed Ubuntu and now I can not get into windows. When I select it from Grub it just goes to windows splash screen then reboots. I have searched online and can not find a solution, any help would be appreciated
[07:17] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, oh and... ./configure; make; make install will work 90% of the time out of the box
[07:17] <jacktheripper> as opposed to....ubuntus 3% of the time
[07:17] <natbet> yeah
[07:17] <cute_bettong> crimsun: are you there?
[07:17] <treyesh> i need help getting sound on my toshiba
[07:17] <susz> I have an edgy cd tho
[07:17] <WIdea> susz: no solution yet
[07:17] <jacktheripper> its nice having headers for all your libs by default :)
[07:17] <newtubuntu> someone knows why I lose my top and bottom panels in workspaces I create ?
[07:17] <natbet> there is always some odd dependency issue trying ./configure, make, make install in ubuntu
[07:18] <susz> WIdea: thanks.  that is actually useful.  I can stop wasting time trying :)
[07:18] <treyesh> wat should i do
[07:18] <lmc_phx1> jacktheripper, yeah I was configuring ffmpeg for flv encoding, holy hell, that was a mess!
[07:18] <jacktheripper> matbet: always
[07:18] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1 want me to try over here and give you the results :p
[07:18] <RonzO> hello fellow ubuntu users. =)
[07:18] <treyesh> help pls
[07:18] <iratik> help... can't sudo from any account -- still have a root account terminal open to fix it ...  sudo: pam_authenticate: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. - -- please help me!!
[07:18] <jacktheripper> im that bored
[07:18] <arcad3> Error "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found" the Driver is installed everithing is ok with the sound card some help?
[07:19] <natbet> lmc_phx1: actually I got ffmpeg to install just fine, I convert between flv and mp3 all the time now
[07:19] <treyesh> HELP i need help with sound
[07:19] <chadeldridge> treyesh:  if you would actually ask a quest people might be able to help you ...
[07:19] <jacktheripper> thats why i hate pam
[07:19] <RonzO> iratik, try to install sudo package
[07:19] <treyesh> I dont have any Sound coming out from my speakers what should i do?
[07:19] <iratik> RonzO : could that mess the whole system up?
[07:20] <iratik> treyesh: turn them on, plug them in
[07:20] <treyesh> its a laptop computer
[07:20] <iratik> lousy integrated sound hardware
[07:20] <chadeldridge> treyesh:  system / pref / sounds ... which sound driver are you using ?
[07:20] <lmc_phx1> jacktheripper, Oh, I got it working. I never give up, but it probably would have been easier on centos or even fedora
[07:20] <treyesh> asif
[07:20] <treyesh> srry
[07:20] <treyesh> asla
[07:20] <RonzO> iratik, should be fine if you just reinstall the package
[07:20] <treyesh> alsa
[07:20] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, you call that easier?  lol
[07:20] <NET||abuse> hmm, how can i add a directory as the wallpaper list source, so that anything i put in there will automatically be added to the wallpaper list?
[07:20] <chadeldridge> and your sure you are not muted or turned down ?
[07:21] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, id pull my hair out
[07:21] <jacktheripper> before id attempt that
[07:21] <treyesh> yup
[07:21] <iratik> sudo is already the newest version.
[07:21] <iratik> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded.
[07:21] <level1> hi, my computer hasn't been suspend correctly... sometimes it does a partial suspend where the cpu is still running but the fans, monitor and usb devices are off... I can't bring it out of this so I have to force reboot, and if I don't realize its done this, my processor can overheat
[07:21] <chadeldridge> treyesh:  change to OSS and click the test button .. what happens ?
[07:21] <lmc_phx1> I have a cool perl script that encodes, captures a thumbnail and gets metadata! woot. I rule. (:
[07:21] <jada420> hey whats up guys
[07:22] <jacktheripper> perl is good
[07:22] <lmc_phx1> jacktheripper, I really like centos, I have several in different roles at the colo. Its been good for us.
[07:22] <treyesh> Resource busy or not avaiable
[07:22] <chadeldridge> does anyone have a program for changing the exif data on digital pics ?
[07:22] <chadeldridge> treyesh:  back to alsa and click test again
[07:23] <level1> I don't like perl much...
[07:23] <jada420> anyone kno any way to get on yahoo with voive with ubuntu
[07:23] <treyesh> on playback
[07:23] <natbet> lmc_phx1: how do you install things in centos from command line, like apt-get in ubuntu. Is it up2date or is it something else?
[07:23] <chadeldridge> treyesh: all of them
[07:23] <treyesh> its only 2 bars
[07:24] <iratik> RonzO: already the newest version
[07:24] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, still....i dont agree with some philosophies that are rampant in distros today
[07:24] <RonzO> iratik, can you reinstall the package?
[07:24] <lmc_phx1> natbet, cent uses rpm but I always ditch that for apt
[07:24] <RonzO> iratik, also checking google for ya. =)
[07:24] <chadeldridge> treyesh:   under the devices tab you have (Sound events, Music and Movies, Audio Conf, and Default mixer) ?
[07:24] <mike24> I installed Ubuntu and now I can not get into windows. When I select it from Grub it just goes to windows splash screen then reboots. I have searched online and can not find a solution, any help would be appreciated
[07:24] <iratik> i ran apt-get install sudo -- says its already the newest version
[07:24] <iratik> i did cehck google - it was insane -- pulled up all sorts of debian bugs
[07:24] <lmc_phx1> cent is just fedora without the logos
[07:25] <natbet> ok, I thought it was just red hat without the support
[07:25] <lmc_phx1> jacktheripper, like what?
[07:25] <Anubis_> anyone use a bnc with ubuntu, i type eveything in correctly and it says wrong password even tho its the right password
[07:25] <Anubis_> bnc with xchat
[07:25] <chadeldridge> treyesh:  make sure the device dropdown is set to (Alsa Mixer)
[07:26] <yurri> SLI isnt working ARGH
[07:26] <mike24> hello....
[07:26] <bluefox83> where is the info that tells you what processor a machine is running?
[07:26] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, using guis for everything, and using package managers for everything, and using sysv init scripts, and making custom distro specific tools for every little task
[07:26] <fsdfdsd> Anubis
[07:27] <fsdfdsd> sunt arcad3 de pe forum
[07:27] <toryl__> mike24: I'm poking around for you
[07:27] <lmc_phx1> jacktheripper, I know this about opensource in general, I love it. I am amazed at how many talented people are out there building great things all day long so we can apt-get install thegreatestsoftwareever
[07:27] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, i also dont like waiting for new programs to show up in repositories
[07:27] <iratik> RonzO: how do i force reinstall of sudo ?
[07:27] <Zodiac4> when I try to install ubuntu, I start the CD.. then it says after ive pressed "start or install ubuntu"; Mounting root file system, and then it stops.. It wont go further..
[07:27] <Arcad3> Anubis te pot ajuta eu
[07:28] <iratik> is that portuguese?
[07:28] <Anubis_> i only speak english
[07:28] <iratik> voces portuguese ?
[07:28] <RonzO> iratik, in synaptic, you can right click the sudo package and force a reinstall like that
[07:28] <mike24> tory1__ thanks
[07:28] <Arcad3> use Mirc with wine
[07:28] <Zodiac4> anyone?
[07:28] <Arcad3> i have the same problem
[07:28] <Anubis_> lol ok
[07:28] <iratik> RonzO: running ubuntu-server 6.10 dapper drake
[07:28] <Anubis_> thanks for the info
[07:28] <yurri> can someone plz just run me through installing nvidia driver????
[07:28] <yurri> plz
[07:28] <graft> anyone know an easy way to capture alsa speaker audio into a sound file?
[07:28] <iratik> yurri: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:29] <lmc_phx1> jacktheripper, I see, well it sounds like your main uses are server based, I agree that small, light and simple is best, but seriously, I'd put ubuntu on my employees desktops now.
[07:29] <Zodiac4> when I try to install ubuntu, I start the CD.. then it says after ive pressed "start or install ubuntu"; Mounting root file system, and then it stops.. It wont go further..
[07:29] <iratik> graft: you can use jack to reroute stereo mix into audacity
[07:29] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, i used it for desktop and server :P
[07:29] <RonzO> iratik, apt-get install sudo --reinstall
[07:29] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, its a great desktop btw
[07:29] <graft> iratik: jack?
[07:29] <bluefox83> what command can i use to get  system to give me it's processor info?
[07:29] <Anubis_> where is the wine folder located
[07:29] <iratik> jack is an audio routing application
[07:29] <RonzO> bluefox83, lspci
[07:29] <CppIsWeird> i did an apt-cache search for vmware and  noticed there are kernel modules. Do these need to be installed for vmware to run? (or run efficently)? And what is vmware server?
[07:29] <Anubis_> i isntalled no name script and it doesnt like it
[07:30] <Zodiac4> noone can help me? =(
[07:30] <lmc_phx1> I know what you mean about having to wait. I hate when you know that the latest package is two revs behind!
[07:30] <graft> iratik: you mean jackd?
[07:30] <bluefox83> RonzO, that doesn't tell me which processor it's running or how fast it is..just says it's amd
[07:30] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, besides that yuo need to spend 3 minutes setting up xorg.conf, 1 second changing init tab to run level 4 (x mode)
[07:30] <mike24> any help.. I installed Ubuntu and now I can not get into windows. When I select it from Grub it just goes to windows splash screen then reboots. I have searched online and can not find a solution, any help would be appreciated
[07:30] <Arcad3>   ___/home/$USER/.wine
[07:30] <iratik> RonzO: same error!
[07:30] <bluefox83> i need to know which proc it's running and how fast it is...
[07:30] <Zodiac4> when I try to install ubuntu, I start the CD.. then it says after ive pressed "start or install ubuntu"; Mounting root file system, and then it stops.. It wont go further..
[07:30] <lmc_phx1> jacktheripper, do you use x on your desktop/workstation?
[07:31] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, of course
[07:31] <jacktheripper> but i start it with startx
[07:31] <sess> What would be the best method of tracking down the cause of my Suspend and hibernation lockups?  My laptop doesn't sleep or hibernate when I use gnome, and I tried installing uswsusp and executing s2ram and s2disk from teh console, but using either command the laptop locks up instead of turning off
[07:31] <iratik> root account unaffected - the other terminals logged into the server as other accounts unable to sudo  saying after entering the password  sudo: pam_authenticate: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info.
[07:31] <jacktheripper> i hate gdm/kdm
[07:31] <lmc_phx1> jacktheripper, I know, dumb question. but you never know - some people are super-hard-core
[07:31] <RonzO> hmmz
[07:31] <graft> not using x is not super-hard-core, it's luddite
[07:32] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, i dont think you understand :)
[07:32] <John`> whats the command to look at your computer stats in terminal?
[07:32] <toryl__> mike24: did you have to repartition an existing drive or did you use another drive for your ubuntu install?
[07:32] <jacktheripper> i use the terminal when its easier
[07:32] <iratik> RonzO: happened after a corruption in /etc/passwd
[07:32] <graft> John`: what stats?
[07:32] <lmc_phx1> oh, hell, me too
[07:32] <mike24> tory1__ i have 1 hard drive
[07:32] <jacktheripper> if there was ever a filemanager better than mc or mv/cp/rm for linux, id use it
[07:32] <yurri> why is envy not good for installing Nvidia drivers?
[07:32] <mike24> so i repartitioned it
[07:32] <John`> er cpu/ram hd
[07:32] <John`> etc.
[07:32] <live_anika> hola
[07:32] <graft> John`: um... well top will do some of that
[07:32] <RonzO> iratik, can you reinstall the passwd package? =)
[07:33] <graft> John`: df for disk usage
[07:33] <Arcad3> !lm_sensors
[07:33] <bluefox83> yurri, it tends to break things...
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lm_sensors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <yurri> EVryone
[07:33] <yurri> why is envy not good for installing Nvidia drivers?
[07:33] <Zodiac4> any ubuntu pro's here I can query?
[07:33] <yurri> o ok
[07:33] <iratik> Everyone: is that a good idea on a production system?
[07:33] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, you should give it a chance :)
[07:33] <hjmills> hi - is it possible for me to connect my pc to my server using a second nic in each machine so I can benefit from the gigabit they both have even though they are on the same LAN at the moment (router slowing it to 100mbit)?
[07:33] <graft> iratik: is what a good idea?
[07:33] <yurri> then how do i install it bluefox83
[07:33] <X337> Hi guys, do someone know, how I am making some bash profil for my account in ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn?
[07:33] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, the only bad thing is...wheny ou dont have to constantly baby sit your distro...you might stop learning because you already know everythign you need to know
[07:33] <iratik> graft: reinstall the passwd package?
[07:33] <iratik> there are 15 domains running on this system
[07:34] <graft> iratik: sure, why not? gets upgraded from time to time, so reinstalling should be okay
[07:34] <bluefox83> yurri, consult the forums...i haven't had to install drivers in a while so i don't remember
[07:34] <graft> iratik: if it's not okay, it'll complain
[07:34] <graft> iratik: just keep a root shell open so you can trouble shoot
[07:34] <RonzO> iratik, and you will be given the ubuntu e-finger
[07:34] <iratik> i've only got one root-shell left open
[07:34] <jacktheripper> lmc_phx1, know what i mean?
[07:35] <Zodiac4> when I try to install ubuntu, I start the CD.. then it says after ive pressed "start or install ubuntu"; Mounting root file system, and then it stops.. It wont go further..
[07:35] <tont>
[07:35] <tont> I have a problem with the net between kubuntu and winxp if I write from konqueror smb://<IP_ADDRESS> says time to me expired on the server <IP_ADDRESS> ..help me
[07:35] <toryl__> mike24: can you get to safe mode or the recovery console, or is it bombing out right away?
[07:36] <iratik> reinstalled -- same error
[07:36] <toryl__> mike24:  and did you put the new partition before your windows partition?
[07:36] <RonzO> tont, is filesharing on the xp machines?
[07:36] <lmc_phx1> jacktheripper, yeah, thats me. I've forgotten a ton of stuff I used to know, I just do the routine stuff anymore, check logs, diskspace etc.
[07:36] <iratik> did dpkg -l grep pam  ..... reinstall libpam-foreground, libpam-modules, libpam-runtime ?
[07:36] <mike24> tory_ i can not get in safe mode, it does same thing
[07:36] <mike24> tory_ i put new partition after windows
[07:37] <graft> argh... why, after eight years, is ALSA still such a crappy hack job?
[07:37] <tont> Ronzo: yes
[07:37] <yurri> .
[07:37] <yurri> .
[07:37] <yurri> .
[07:37] <yurri> .
[07:38] <RonzO> tont, the problem i always had was that i had to was set the files explicitly to be shared. also, make sure simple file sharing is turned on
[07:38] <toryl__> mike24:  listen, I had a similar problem with my install, and it was because of the repartitioning.  Boot.ini gets hosed up, did you check that?
[07:39] <iratik> hey RonzO: looked inside auth.log for errors from sudo ..   http://attachr.com/8440
[07:39] <mike24> tory1_ how do i check
[07:39] <mike24> it may be
[07:39] <chadeldridge> graft:  i totally agree with ya
[07:39] <mike24> tory1_ from ubuntu it says the file is read only so i cant modify it
[07:39] <RonzO> iratik, the only things that i have found thus far are to reinstall /etc/passwd
[07:39] <graft> also, why the hell do random things keep starting artsd, even when i tell them not to?
[07:40] <iratik> RonzO: improperly configured home account for the system
[07:40] <iratik> ?
[07:40] <graft> linux really sucks sometimes
[07:40] <iratik> because i had to reconstruct my /etc/passwd file from scratch
[07:40] <nny> ok so reconstructor wasn't it.. and I can't find any packages for make-live.. this is killing me, I used a program that repackaged all the installed stuff on my laptop and recreated an install cd, does anyone know what it is? I can't remember the name :(
[07:40] <RonzO> iratik, are there any user accounts working on the server, or are they not working, due to the corrupted passwd file?
[07:40] <toryl__> mike24: try installing Automatix and using it to install whatever NTFS driver it's got, that got me on the Windows partition in r/w mode.
[07:41] <sebrock> which init is ubuntu starting in?
[07:41] <graft> iratik: why reconstruct it from scratch? do you have a root shell open?
[07:41] <iratik> Yeah
[07:41] <graft> yeah what?
[07:41] <iratik> i have a root shell open it
[07:41] <graft> do you know what users are supposed to be on the system?
[07:41] <sebrock> which runlevel does ubuntu start in?=
[07:41] <mike24> tory1_ is automatix a ubuntu program? what do i need to do to boot.ini
[07:41] <graft> do you have any working copy of your passwd file?
[07:42] <iratik> graft: yeah... i have an /etc/passwd file - i've put together
[07:42] <graft> iratik: and are you using shadow passwords?
[07:42] <iratik> i dont know what that means
[07:42] <iratik> but there is an /etc/shadow
[07:42] <graft> iratik: does it have x instead of passwords in /etc/passwd
[07:42] <iratik> yes
[07:42] <iratik> i reconstructed /etc/passwd - but not /etc/shadow
[07:43] <graft> iratik: well /etc/shadow is easy - most of them shouhld be *... you just need real passwords for some
[07:43] <ahmed> any one know how to run sites uses activex in ubuntu
[07:43] <iratik> hmmm........
[07:43] <iratik> can i show you my /etc/shadow ?
[07:43] <graft> iratik: so make /etc/shadow with * for all of your users, then use your root shell & passwd to restore passwords
[07:43] <iratik> or would that breach the security ?
[07:43] <graft> iratik: i wouldn't
[07:43] <SlimeyPete> ahmed: use Internet Explorer via Wine
[07:43] <GuGa_Garcez> oi
[07:43] <chadeldridge> ahmed:  www.ies4linux.com
[07:44] <graft> iratik: since you have a root shell, you can use passwd <user> to recreate their password
[07:44] <SlimeyPete> ahmed: there's no other way to do it, as far as I know - ActiveX is a Microsoft technology.
[07:44] <ahmed> did you try it
[07:44] <toryl__> mike24: http://vlaurie.com/computers2/Articles/bootini.htm  might help re: boot.ini
[07:44] <SlimeyPete> ahmed: yeah, I've done it before. It works.
[07:44] <ahmed> which version
[07:44] <toryl__> mike24: http://www.getautomatix.com/ re: automatix
[07:44] <chadeldridge> ahmed:  im using 6 and it works fine
[07:44] <SlimeyPete> ahmed: IE6 works well
[07:44] <toryl__> mike24: it might not be boot.ini anyway but it's twitchy and might be a good place to start.
[07:44] <ewook> !automatix
[07:44] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:45] <Arcad3> whats the point of using iexplore on linux?
[07:45] <toryl__> bah I love it.
[07:45] <ahmed> chadeldridge : ok thanks that sound good
[07:45] <chadeldridge> arcad3:  activex
[07:45] <SlimeyPete> Arcad3: as ahmed said... activex, if you need it
[07:45] <chadeldridge> my company has 3 sites that require it ... so im screwed without it
[07:45] <Arcad3> i dont need it
[07:45] <mike24> tory1_ ya i have seen this probekm and no solution
[07:45] <Arcad3> if i need it i run windows
[07:45] <SlimeyPete> Arcad3: good for you. Neither do I, but some people do.
[07:46] <chadeldridge> i hear they are handing out cookies down the hall .. lokl
[07:46] <mike24> tory1, when i put in the windows install disk it doesnt even recognize the drive. but it is all there
[07:46] <Arcad3> i use only open source ..
[07:46] <pupi120290> i have ripped some music from a internetradio. in all mp3-files artistname and title of the song are saved. how can i automatically add to the mp3-file the albumname etc.
[07:46] <ahmed> Just one more thing for programers : what is the best editor for c,c++,java,php,etc
[07:46] <nny> Flannel, hey I am still having no luck here. Tried reconstructor.. it is only for creating cds with new packages, not the ones installed already. Couldn't find a good way to install make-live. I had a program that worked great, and automagically made an exact install cd from my current ubuntu install. any advice?
[07:47] <SlimeyPete> ahmed: eclipse has lots of features but is big and buggy. Otherwise there's kdvelop, vim, emacs...
[07:47] <Pelo> pupi120290, easytag
[07:47] <SlimeyPete> ahmed: personally, I use Quanta for PHP/HTML
[07:47] <pupi120290> ok ill check easytag out
[07:48] <toryl__> mike24:  how do you know it is still there?
[07:48] <sess> how is quanta
[07:48] <ahmed> Quanta is good but not the best i need one with much features like zend
[07:49] <sess> I think I heard quanta is the best web authoring app with wysiwyg + code editing features
[07:49] <sebrock> omg...
[07:49] <SlimeyPete> quanta's not really wysiwyg
[07:49] <sess> I used to use NVU way back when I first started making websites, but that blew
[07:49] <treyesh> i need help with my sound card i cant hear anything
[07:49] <SlimeyPete> it's mostly for editing code
[07:50] <sess> well, if I ever get this stupid suspend working right, Ill check it out
[07:50] <jacktheripper> treyesh, alsa-mixer press m to unmute some channels like master and pcm
[07:50] <Pelo> !sound | treyesh  start with this
[07:50] <ubotu> treyesh  start with this: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:50] <jacktheripper> and keep them at a max of like 90%
[07:50] <Arcad3> treyesh: try this --System>Administration>Users and groups> Click your user > Properties >USer Privileges   CHECK ALL Then restart X server with  CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[07:50] <sess> I've been using notepad to work on my latest php site and was going to use vim, but if there's a php ide available, Im all oever it
[07:50] <mike24> tory_ i see all the files in ubuntu
[07:50] <adx> can anyone help me with this strange Error? (Kernel compiling)
[07:50] <adx> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27807/
[07:51] <ahmed> quanta only color the tages and functions and any other editor even gedit but it provide much more than gedit with alittle
[07:51] <toryl__> mike24: you might also be able to get an error message from  Windows if you tell the BIOS not to reboot after it gets an error.  Worth checking.
[07:51] <treyesh> didnt help
[07:51] <jacktheripper> adx, are you new to ubuntu?
[07:51] <lmc_phx1> can you make internet exploder, uh explorer work in wine?
[07:51] <adx> No , i was using ubuntu 4 in past
[07:51] <adx> but now i see its have 7 , so i downloaded it
[07:51] <chadeldridge> lmc_phx1:  www.ies4linux.com
[07:51] <adx> (many things changed since 4)
[07:52] <ahmed> It seems that there's big good community in ubuntu , I didn't think that it's so wonderfull much more debian it self
[07:52] <jacktheripper> adx, well you dont have any of the headers needed
[07:52] <treyesh> i stell need help
[07:52] <adx> i know , but where i can download it from?
[07:52] <adx> apt-get what?
[07:52] <jacktheripper> adx, someone can tell you what packages yuo have to apt-get, but i wouldnt know
[07:52] <ublender> Does anyone know of a single good PSP video encoder that works in Ubuntu (including via wine)
[07:52] <RonzO> iratik, sorry, in and out of the house. did you get it fixed or any more ideas?
[07:52] <adx> OK , do you know if the source code of these headers avilable?
[07:52] <jacktheripper> adx, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:53] <adx> OK , btw did you like my pw? ;)
[07:53] <adx> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27807/
[07:53] <treyesh> i need help with my soundcard?
[07:53] <mike24> tory1_ how do i do that
[07:53] <mike24> make the bios not reboot
[07:53] <iratik> RonzO: nope
[07:53] <jacktheripper> adx, have fun with that...seems like compiling custom kernels on ubuntu is a wack process
[07:53] <Pelo> !sound | treyesh  start with this
[07:53] <ubotu> treyesh  start with this: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:53] <iratik> even redid the line in /etc/shadow, and ran passwd for that accoutn
[07:53] <andreas6575987> Can someone plase tell me how to use tcpdump to save this mp3 file? http://www.mobiles24.com/downloads/s/14298-3-animal-blackbird
[07:53] <adx> eh , should i get back to LFS then? ;)
[07:53] <iratik> Jun 29 12:39:30 www sudo:    admin : pam_authenticate: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. ; TTY=pts/1 ; PWD=/home/ctatechs ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/vim /var/www/web2/web/pagefunctions/coldcallh.php
[07:53] <mike24> pelo: did you ever get that output i sent
[07:53] <lmc_phx1> chadeldridge, Its not jumping out at me. What am I looking for there?
[07:53] <treyesh> nope
[07:54] <lely63> hola
[07:54] <adx> hola sinurita
[07:54] <Pelo> mike24,  what output ? when ? why ?
[07:54] <mike24> pelo ,yesterday i spoke to you
[07:54] <Arcad3> treyesh:did u try what i pasted for ya?
[07:54] <mike24> pelo, about my computer rebooting when i try to enter windoes
[07:54] <Arcad3> worked for me
[07:54] <treyesh> yes
[07:54] <Arcad3> and?
[07:55] <treyesh> didnt work