[02:54] <Jucato> it just freezes my whole system whenever I try to start it
[02:55] <Jucato> sometimes it starts, sometimes it doesn't
[02:55] <thoreauputic> fjellrev1: just choose KDE as session on the login screen
[02:55] <fdoving> oh, interessting.
[02:55] <Jucato> interesting and annoying...
[02:55] <Jucato> maybe some other time... T_T
[02:55] <fdoving> i did some rosegarden packaging a while back.. what version do you use, jucato ?
[02:55] <thoreauputic> Jucato:  strace rosegarden4
[02:55] <Jucato> rosegarden4 from the repositories
[02:55] <Jucato> thoreauputic: will that have a possibility of freezing my system again?
[02:56] <fdoving> Jucato: dapper?
[02:56] <Jucato> yep
[02:56] <thoreauputic> Jucato: probably - but it might give you clues
[02:56] <thoreauputic> Jucato: anyway I'm sure fdoving knows far more than I
[02:56] <Jucato>  @_@
[02:57] <thoreauputic> being a packager etc
[02:57] <Jucato> thanks, but I removed it, for now...
[02:57] <Jucato> some other time perhaps...
[02:57] <thoreauputic> Jucato: you have a short patience span ;)
[02:57] <Jucato> no, I just can't keep on restarting again and again tonight
[02:57] <fdoving> thoreauputic: don't count on it.
[02:58] <fdoving> .. that i know more than you.. that is.
[02:58] <thoreauputic> Jucato: it took me about a week to figure out timidity as server, ports, freepats, config etc etc to get it all working on my rubbish sound card :)
[02:59] <fdoving> Jucato: if you want to, you can get rosegarden4 1.2.3 and dssi from http://ubuntu.lnix.net/dapper/ - unmaintained.
[02:59] <Jucato> thoreauputic: I have spent almost 12 hours doing a server (minimal) install of Kubuntu, installing X and kde-core from the command line, installing every bit and piece of KDE that I needed. I think I have enough patience for this. But just not tonight (it's night time here)
[02:59] <thoreauputic> fdoving: the problem isn't so much rosegarden as midi etc
[02:59] <thoreauputic> Jucato: I was just kidding - I understand
[02:59] <thoreauputic> :)
[03:00] <redblades> Hi!
[03:00] <fdoving> thoreauputic: i know, but 1.2.3 is alot better than 1.0
[03:00] <redblades> I'm back.
[03:00] <fdoving> Jucato: that is 'deb http://ubuntu.lnix.net/dapper/ ./' if you want it in sources.list
[03:00] <javi25> holaaaaaaa
[03:01] <redblades> Well, I still have the same error, although I can't actually recall the exact line so :s
[03:01] <thoreauputic> fdoving: looks like I have 1.0.1-2 or so here according to dpkg
[03:01] <Jucato> fdoving: thanks. I really appreciate it. I hope you don't take offence, but I can't work on it right now :-(
[03:01] <fdoving> thoreauputic: yes, that's the dapper one.
[03:01] <thoreauputic> fdoving: yup
[03:02] <thoreauputic> fdoving: so the newer one is available as a deb that installs on dapper without complaint?
[03:02] <fdoving> thoreauputic: the unofficial one i've packaged, yes.
[03:02] <thoreauputic> ah I see - I might try it then - thank you !
[03:03] <Jucato> thoreauputic: did you see the wikipedia page I linked to? is Rosegarden really something like Finale?
[03:03] <larson9999> think gimpshop will ever make it into the ubuntu repos?
[03:04] <thoreauputic> Jucato: looks similar but I haven't looked closely to be honest - probably not as advanced
[03:04] <thoreauputic> Jucato: I mean not as advanced as finale looks at first glance
[03:05] <Jucato> I see
[03:05] <Jucato> I was just looking for a way to make some music sheets and play them (in any format). But it's not at the top of my list right now. so maybe some other time...
[03:06] <fdoving> thoreauputic: i'd suggest adding 'deb http://ubuntu.lnix.net/dapper/ ./' to sources.list, as it depends on the new dssi which is also in the repo.
[03:06] <thoreauputic> fdoving: ah OK will do - thanks for the tip
[03:09] <thoreauputic> fdoving: it doesn't appear to be installing any dependencies from that repo ?
[03:10] <thoreauputic> fdoving: there are two "recommends"
[03:10] <Jucato> whoa, jpatrick's here ^_^
[03:10] <jpatrick> Jucato: hey man
[03:11] <Jucato> hehe! the youngest Kubuntu dev! ^_^
[03:11] <thoreauputic> fdoving: comments? I don't see dssi
[03:11] <jpatrick> Jucato: I've had a long break...
[03:12] <Jucato> jpatrick: kool! you guys deserve it. :-D
[03:12] <Jucato> now get back to work on Edgy! lol
[03:12] <jpatrick> Jucato: i've hardly done anything for Edgy..
[03:12] <Jucato> hehehe
[03:13] <jpatrick> Jucato: how are you?
[03:13] <Jucato> jpatrick: fine. tweaking things here and there. experimenting with stuff. breaking my system :-D
[03:14] <fdoving> thoreauputic: hm? i was away for a sec.
[03:14] <thoreauputic> fdoving: I'm puzzled - I see two recommends but no dependencies
[03:15] <thoreauputic> and nothing about dssi
[03:15] <fdoving> thoreauputic: ok, my bad then. might be just build-depends. I don't remember.
[03:15] <thoreauputic> and of course an authentiaction warning, but that's expected
[03:16] <thoreauputic> *authentication
[03:16] <Jucato> aunthenti-action does sound good... ^_^
[03:16] <thoreauputic> fdoving: OK well I'll go ahead then :) If it's broken I'll lart you unmercifully *G*
[03:17] <thoreauputic> just kidding..
[03:18] <jpatrick> thoreauputic: s/he hopes
[03:18] <thoreauputic> jpatrick: :)
[03:18] <thoreauputic> unpacking...
[03:18] <anaskius> hello
[03:19] <fdoving> thoreauputic: looking forward to it :)
[03:20] <anaskius> anyone using 64 bit kubuntu?
[03:20] <thoreauputic> fdoving: when did you first become aware of these masochistic tendencies ? *G*
[03:21] <fdoving> thoreauputic: kindergarten :)
[03:21] <thoreauputic> oh a pretty rose.... splash is shorter...
[03:23] <thoreauputic> fdoving: well I have sound - that's a good start :)
[03:23] <fdoving> sounds good :)
[03:23] <thoreauputic> also seems to be using less CPU than before
[03:24] <thoreauputic> playing the demo
[03:25] <fdoving> that's not bad :)
[03:25] <anaskius> anyone know how to get a spdif connection working on my soundcard?
[03:25] <thoreauputic> fdoving: the notation editor pops up faster too - nice
[03:25] <fdoving> anaskius: did you try the switches in kmix?
[03:25] <anaskius> no
[03:26] <anaskius> is there a switch for that?
[03:26] <anaskius> maybe i missed it
[03:26] <fdoving> anaskius: don't know, depends on your soundcard and the driver for it.
[03:27] <anaskius> i have ac97 on asus a8n-e motherboard
[03:27] <waspius> i opened kdiskfree and for some reason i have 3 more dev than what i should..udev,varlock,varrun 220.1mb each..anyone know what they are?
[03:28] <anaskius> would be really nice if i could connect my computer to my amplifier that way
[03:29] <anaskius> dont know where to gety a linux driver for that?
[03:29] <anaskius> -y
[03:29] <thoreauputic> fdoving: well, it seems a bit more responsive and so far everything works well - thank you :) Where should bug reports go if I see any problems ?
[03:30] <fdoving> thoreauputic: heh.. well, you could send them to me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but i doubt anything would happen, as i don't have time to maintain and support the package, and edgy got a 1.2.3 synced from debian. :)
[03:31] <thoreauputic> fdoving: ah OK - well thank you for the package - I'll look forward to edgy :)
[03:33] <Kiongku> dpkg does not like pkg names without numbers XD
[03:33] <anaskius> i think everybody who knows something is sleeping...im not because its afternoon in finland
[03:33] <Kiongku> anaskius prob?
[03:34] <Jucato> Kiongku: not if you're installing
[03:34] <Kiongku> Jucato: hehe yo man... oh well.. just found out
[03:34] <Jucato> ^_^
[03:34] <Kiongku> the default amarok
[03:34] <Kiongku> cannot recognise wma in collection
[03:34] <Kiongku> i'm trying to get the latest one
[03:35] <anaskius> my souncards spdif connection...cant get it working is there some drivers for realtek alc850
[03:35] <Jucato> Kiongku: you don't need a new Amarok
[03:35] <Jucato> Kiongku: you need the w32codecs
[03:35] <Kiongku> anaskius: spdif?
[03:35] <anaskius> amarok is great
[03:35] <anaskius> optical connection
[03:35] <Jucato> !w32codecs
[03:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:35] <redblades> Hi, I'm back, and I can now use Gnome terminal, but Konsole is still b0rked, as is the alt+ctrl+F1/2/3/3/4 thing
[03:35] <anaskius> or digital
[03:35] <Kiongku> Jucato: amarok can play wma.. only the collection refuses to list it
[03:35] <Jucato> oh
[03:35] <Kiongku> anaskius: ah
[03:36] <anaskius> dont really know the proper term for that thing
[03:36] <Kiongku> anaskius: sorry.. really noob in matter of soundcards for linux.. i have an integrated one so i dunt have any prob with it
[03:37] <fdoving> anaskius: no dice with the switches in kmix?
[03:37] <anaskius> so do i
[03:37] <larson9999> any idea why the kde pesonalize wizard starts every time i log in to kde?
[03:37] <Kiongku> anaskius: http://www.opendrivers.com/driver/211089/Realtek-ALC650-ALC655-AC97-Audio.html
[03:37] <anaskius> ill try that..ill have to mount my windows partition first so i can get some music
[03:37] <fdoving> larson9999: you're probably using kde 3.5.4 from kubuntu.org.
[03:38] <anaskius> thanks ill check that out
[03:38] <Kiongku> larson9999: its a known bug.. i had same prob resolved it
[03:38] <larson9999> fdoving: argggh  another known?  i guess i should read the known bug stuff more
[03:38] <larson9999> :)
[03:38] <Jucato> larson9999: try this link: http://www.kde-forum.org/thread.php?threadid=15137&sid=
[03:39] <Kiongku> larson9999: that thing was annoying me yesteday.. kicked it out XD..
[03:40] <Jucato> I think Kiongku has the solution
[03:40] <Kiongku> Jucato: hehe :p
[03:41] <Kiongku> wait i look for it
[03:41] <Jucato> Kiongku: does it have something to do with editing /usr/bin/startkde?
[03:41] <anaskius> im downloading that driver now...but i dont really know how to unzip and install it
[03:41] <Kiongku> Jucato: yap
[03:41] <Kiongku> Jucato: need to comment kpersonalizer to stop it running
[03:42] <Kiongku> anaskius: hmm..
[03:42] <firepol> ho there. i want to upgrade to dapper without download unnecessary files. thus is it possible to install kubuntu-desktop without its dependencies? so then i replace breezy/dapper in the sources.list and run apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:42] <anaskius> do i have to download some program to unzip?
[03:42] <Kiongku> anaskius: nope.. btw whats the prob.. no sound?
[03:42] <anaskius> it was a xip package
[03:43] <Kiongku> linux can take care of zip package
[03:43] <anaskius> i have sound via analog connection but it sounds really bad
[03:43] <Kiongku> anaskius: really no idea ._. first time i hear that prob
[03:44] <anaskius> i think ill try to get the digital one working even if i have to sit on my computer 24/7
[03:44] <anaskius> !mount
[03:44] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[03:45] <waspius> if i use icewm is it possible to run a panel on it?
[03:46] <anaskius> !mount windows
[03:46] <ubotu> mount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 149 kB, installed size 336 kB
[03:46] <anaskius> !mount windows partition
[03:46] <ubotu> mount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 149 kB, installed size 336 kB
[03:48] <redblades> So, I have this issue where if I try to go to a non-X session, I can't get a shell and it says "file bin/bash does not exist" ***note! it says "bin/bash" not /bin/bash
[03:48] <redblades> Is it possible somehow it is looking in the wrong place?
[03:48] <anaskius> so now i have a zip file called linux_v23.zip and now i need to unzip and install it do i need to use console and what do i do
[03:48] <fdoving> redblades: can you get a root-shell somehow from within X?
[03:50] <anaskius> by the way...im a linux noob
[03:50] <fdoving> redblades: can you run 'konsole' from within KDE ?
[03:50] <_david> anyone know if xmms has a plugin for wma files?
[03:50] <larson9999> ok. i'm all ready to create some crazy captorials.  all i need is some questions with easy answers(i don't know any hard answers)
[03:50] <anaskius> this seems to be an good system this kubuntu thing
[03:51] <Kiongku> Jucato: lol some deleted file stayed in desktop..
[03:51] <kbrooks> sO.
[03:51] <larson9999> *buntu isn't so bad i must say
[03:51] <Jucato> ??
[03:51] <anaskius> had an idea to try it and i installed it the other day
[03:52] <anaskius> i really like amarok as a mediaplayer
[03:52] <anaskius> it more versitale than winamp and WMP i think
[03:52] <anaskius> versatile sorry
[03:53] <fdoving> dahump: i think there is something called 'xmms-wma' somewhere.. check xmms.org
[03:53] <anaskius> my english is rusty..dont use it much
[03:53] <dahump> ok then here is a nice common newbie problem that I'm sure most of you have encountered. I have my kubuntu box networked with my Windows machine. I can see my windows machine, but whenever I try to access my home folder on the Windows machine it asks for my password. I enter my password and it just asks for it again and again and again. Please tell me what I am doing wrong/
[03:53] <dahump> thanks fdoving
[03:54] <redblades> fdoving: yes, I can access a root shell, through gnome-terminal, and no, I have an odd crash when I try to tun Knosle.
[03:54] <redblades> fdoving: konsole
[03:54] <anaskius> but now to my problem unzipping a package and installing it
[03:54] <fdoving> redblades: ok, open gnome-terminal. and run 'sudo chsh -s /bin/bash username' where username is your username
[03:55] <anaskius> "so now i have a zip file called linux_v23.zip and now i need to unzip and install it do i need to use console and what do i do" it should be a driver for my soundcard
[03:56] <firepol> why should i install (k)ubuntu-desktop (or edu) before upgrading to dapper ?
[03:56] <Healot> anaskius, read the README file, it is usually in the uncompressed directory
[03:56] <fdoving> anaskius: i'd suggest dropping it, as installing non-supported drivers is a very complicated process.
[03:56] <firepol> i dont want to install unnecessary files but just to upgrade to dapper, actually im using ubuntu with fluxbox, not gnome and not kde
[03:56] <anaskius> okay but its a linux driver?
[03:56] <Mez> firepol, then you dont really need to
[03:56] <anaskius> does that matter
[03:57] <fdoving> firepol: to make sure all new programs are installed, in new versions new features are added, and old features are removed, kubuntu-desktop and the other meta-packages are there to depend on the new and shiny packages, and to conflict with the old and deprecated packages, that way new packages are installed, and old packages are removed, when you install a meta package.
[03:57] <anaskius> if i dont get my soundcards connections working then i yhink i wont be using linux much
[03:58] <anaskius> *think
[03:58] <dahump> ok then here is a nice common newbie problem that I'm sure most of you have encountered. I have my kubuntu box networked with my Windows machine. I can see my windows machine, but whenever I try to access my home folder on the Windows machine it asks for my password. I enter my password and it just asks for it again and again and again. Please tell me what I am doing wrong/
[03:59] <anaskius> if i have to listen that noise that i hear from the analog connection
[03:59] <firepol> fdoving, but if i install kubuntu-desktop now, it will download 200 mb of programs. then afterwards i have to modify sources.list (to dapper) and re-download the dapper versions, thats why im asking
[03:59] <firepol> i prefear to download directly what im already using (dapper version) and then if something doesnt work ill download kubuntu.desktop (when ill be using dapper)
[03:59] <fdoving> firepol: ah, no, that's waste. I'd suggest dist-upgrading to dapper first, without installing kubuntu-desktop.
[04:00] <intelikey> why does kde make a /root dir and add links  "cache-zeos486 -> /var/tmp/kdecache-root    socket-zeos486 -> /tmp/ksocket-root    tmp-zeos486 -> /tmp/kde-root"  ?   isn't that just plain stupid?    sepecally when /root is not anybodies home dir  ???
[04:00] <firepol> so why is it written in the documentation to make sure "kubuntu-desktop" is installed first?
[04:00] <firepol> the guide is guiding to waste downlaod and time
[04:00] <janne> yes
[04:00] <janne> it is..
[04:00] <firepol> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[04:00] <fdoving> firepol: not if you're using a full kubuntu system.
[04:01] <janne> a few days ago i lost my dapper cds.
[04:01] <firepol> ;)
[04:01] <janne> i made a breezy server install
[04:01] <Mez> janne: I've only got 6 kubuntu dapper CDs :P
[04:01] <anaskius> so you are not willing to help me??...thats okay ill try to solve the problem myself then and probably mess my system totally
[04:01] <kbrooks> janne: no need for these dapper cds
[04:01] <Mez> lol - and they were the ones I nicked at the end of LRL
[04:01] <janne> upgraded to dapper an installed gnome
[04:01] <kbrooks> anaskius: ddont
[04:01] <kbrooks> anaskius: jus give up.
[04:01] <max>  ???
[04:01] <anaskius> why should i give up
[04:01] <kbrooks> max: #kubuntu-ru
[04:02] <kbrooks> anaskius: Because its a very complicated process.
[04:02] <firepol> anaskius why dont u buy a new soundcard for a few bucks?
[04:02] <anaskius> if thats a linux driver then i dont understand why you cant install it?
[04:02] <anaskius> dont use bucks
[04:02] <anaskius> lol
[04:02] <firepol> use dolars then ;)
[04:02] <firepol> or euros
[04:03] <Mez> max: try #kubuntu-ru or #ubuntu-ru
[04:03] <anaskius> dont use em neither
[04:03] <kbrooks> anaskius: It is a linux driver, but this is kubuntu
[04:03] <anaskius> euros sound fine
[04:03] <firepol> then use a pistol and steal it ;)
[04:03] <kbrooks> anaskius: What sound card do you have?
[04:03] <anaskius> and kubuntu aint no linux=
[04:03] <intelikey> "<kbrooks> anaskius: It is a linux driver, but this is kubuntu"   say what ?
[04:03] <Mez> kubuntu = a distribution based on GNU/Linux
[04:04] <anaskius> realtek alc850 i think
[04:04] <kbrooks> anaskius: it is based on linux, BUT kubuntu has package management that you want to use.
[04:04] <MitchM> "<kbrooks> anaskius: It is a linux driver, but this is kubuntu"   say what ?
[04:04] <solus_> hey everyone, anyone with a knowledge of 6.06 and monitor problems would be great to talk to at the moment, lol
[04:04] <Mez> kbrooks: you dont always have to use it
[04:04] <kbrooks> anaskius: Does it work? Did you test sound?
[04:04] <jorik> don't you people know nothing ?! dapper uses the OpenBSD kernel instead of Linus'
[04:04] <dahump> anone know aof a linux app that will play wma files?
[04:04] <jorik> ;)
[04:04] <intelikey> mez   errr actually   kubuntu = a distrobution of GNU/linux
[04:04] <Mez> solus_, for monitor problems, you might get a quicker answer in #ubuntu
[04:04] <solus_> thanks so much mez
[04:04] <Mez> jorik: lol - no - that would be incorrect
[04:04] <anaskius> works fine with analog connections but not with digital ones
[04:05] <Mez> solus_, there are more people in there - and monitor problems is a general thing that isnt specific to #kubuntu
[04:05] <kbrooks> anaskius: Why do you want digital connections?
[04:05] <kbrooks> !fixres
[04:05] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:05] <Healot> then, you need the realtek release, anaskius
[04:05] <kbrooks> As well.
[04:05] <anaskius> for better sound
[04:05] <solus_> yeah, but this is the channel i have my irc auto open into, lol
[04:05] <redblades> fdoving: done, sorry, I was helping a windows friend :p
[04:05] <Mez> anaskius, have you checked whether the digital outputs are working,m just dont have the volume turned up on them ?
[04:05] <anaskius> i have it on my compuiter
[04:05] <solus_> and some really ncie people helped my last time
[04:06] <anaskius> never found no switches for em
[04:06] <fdoving> redblades: then try again.
[04:06] <Mez> solus_, if you're using konversaiton, the reason you come here is my fauly
[04:06] <Mez> anaskius, have you tried kmixer ?
[04:06] <anaskius> and my amp dont show that its connected
[04:06] <redblades> fdoving: Okay, I can do the no-X thing now, but konsole still gives an error.
[04:06] <anaskius> no
[04:06] <solus_> i am, and its ok, i like the people who are usually in here
[04:06] <fdoving> redblades: what's the konsole error?
[04:07] <anaskius> never found that neither
[04:07] <redblades> fdoving: depends on how I open it, from within terminal:
[04:07] <anaskius> kmix found it
[04:07] <redblades> fdoving:
[04:07] <redblades> Failed to open device
[04:07] <redblades> ScimInputContextPlugin()
[04:07] <redblades> konsole: WARNING: Unable to open a pseudo teletype!
[04:07] <redblades> Uh oh.. can't get terminal attributes..
[04:07] <redblades> Ect
[04:07] <anaskius> but now i need to mount my windows partition for some music
[04:07] <redblades> etc
[04:07] <Kiongku> zzzzzzzzzz
[04:08] <fdoving> redblades: oh..
[04:08] <redblades> fdoving: the other way, by clciking the icon,
[04:08] <redblades> Failed to open device
[04:08] <redblades> ScimInputContextPlugin()
[04:08] <redblades> konsole: WARNING: Unable to open a pseudo teletype!
[04:08] <redblades> Uh oh.. can't get terminal attributes..
[04:08] <anaskius> klongku dont sleep..am i boring you?
[04:08] <intelikey> redblades you trying to run konsole from console ?
[04:08] <kbrooks> anaskius: Um, hes going to bed
[04:08] <redblades> I tried it, but that wasn't the first thing I di.
[04:08] <redblades> Why?
[04:08] <kbrooks> anaskius: no one is boring him.
[04:09] <intelikey> redblades koncole requires X
[04:09] <redblades> I ahev X
[04:09] <anaskius> is there a guide how to mount windows on kubuntu somewhere?
[04:09] <redblades> have X
[04:09] <redblades> I'm in Konversation...
[04:09] <intelikey> try konsole -display :0
[04:09] <kbrooks> intelikey: no psuedo TTY
[04:09] <anaskius> wont get rid of windows not yet
[04:09] <redblades> konsole: '<displayname>' missing.
[04:10] <kbrooks> anaskius: We dont care about that
[04:10] <kbrooks> the forums do ;)
[04:10] <redblades> I'm very anxious to get konsole working.
[04:10] <anaskius> so do you know how i can mount windows
[04:10] <firepol> anaskous: mount or use windows?
[04:10] <mo> hello
[04:11] <kbrooks> firepol: mount
[04:11] <anaskius> i need a link for some guide that tells me how to do that
[04:11] <firepol> to moutn a partition its quite easy: mount /dev/hdaXX (where xx is the number of the partitino u want to mount) destinationfolder /e.g. /mnt/windows)
[04:11] <redblades> kbrooks, intelikey, fdoving: So, any ideas?
[04:11] <firepol> (u have to create the destinatinfolder first)
[04:11] <kbrooks> firepol: not helpful.
[04:11] <kbrooks> anaskius: #ubuntu-classroom
[04:11] <fdoving> redblades: you can try 'konsole -e /bin/sh'
[04:11] <firepol> in my case, my windows partitino is the first hard drive. so /dev/hda1
[04:12] <anaskius> okay i think i found a guide to do that allready
[04:12] <Kiongku> .. anyone ever tried to compile amarok?
[04:12] <Kiongku> !info ruby1.8
[04:12] <ubotu> ruby1.8: Interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby 1.8. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.4-1ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 183 kB, installed size 268 kB
[04:12] <anaskius> i only have one harddrive
[04:12] <kbrooks> anaskius: FEEL FREE to leave #ubuntu-classroom :-)
[04:12] <anaskius> okay
[04:15] <mo>  hi, i have a question about updated kernels, can i delete theold config, initrd, vmlinuz files from the old kernes?
[04:15] <mo> or are they still nescessary?
[04:15] <fdoving> mo: i suggest removing the old kernels with the package manager.
[04:15] <mo> ok
[04:15] <fdoving> mo: keeping one as a backup might be smart.
[04:15] <pavi> hi how to install gaim in kubuntu
[04:16] <kbrooks> anaskius: hang on
[04:16] <Kiongku> mo: is it an updated official kernel?
[04:16] <ccc_> pavi: sudo apt-get install gaim
[04:16] <fdoving> pavi: open Adept package manager and search for and install gaim.
[04:16] <mo> fdoving: yes your right
[04:16] <mo> Kiongku: yes, from adept
[04:16] <redblades> fdoving: okay, well that works, and even if I try "konsole -e /bin/bash" it works, with the pretty colours, etc, but it actually gives an error anyway!
[04:16] <ccc_> pavi: but i recommend kopete instead :)
[04:17] <pavi> no idont like kopete
[04:17] <Kiongku> mo: well usually the official kernel should be alright.. and can remove older ones. in theory
[04:17] <redblades> I do
[04:17] <mo> Kiongku: ok i use adept for it
[04:17] <redblades> I'm using kopete for MSN. But Konversation for IRC
[04:17] <Kiongku> mo: unless ur like me who tries building custom one.. then :P one as backup is a must
[04:17] <fdoving> redblades: it's because you somehow have messed up your default shell, i think if you logout and log back in. that might help. as you have changed the shell back to /bin/bash with chsh already.
[04:17] <jorik> kopete has [better]  kde integration, but it only supports MSN, i like gaim cuz it does jabber too
[04:17] <ccc_> jorik: kopete does jabber
[04:17] <redblades> Oh... I'll try
[04:17] <redblades> brb all!
[04:17] <mo> Kiongku: ok, i will trie this if i have some years of experience
[04:17] <jorik> FO REAL ?!
[04:17] <ccc_> jorik: of course
[04:17] <kblog> hi
[04:18] <pavi> hey see the result of apt gettin
[04:18] <pavi> http://pastebin.ca/138804
[04:18] <jorik> wow coooooool, brb
[04:18] <Kiongku> mo: hehe
[04:18] <Kiongku> jorik: the new kopete hates msn.. or it keeps crashin when i run the msn protocol XD
[04:18] <kblog> has anybody an idea how to tell thunderbird that he have to use firefox as standard browser instead of konquerror?
[04:19] <pavi> hello
[04:19] <ccc_> Kiongku: works fine here on kopete 0.12.1
[04:19] <pavi> anyone there
[04:19] <pavi> reply
[04:20] <Kiongku> ccc_: too bad for me.
[04:21] <pavi> hello I want solution for gaim and firefox
[04:21] <ccc_> Kiongku: ah there's a 0.12.2, i didn't know
[04:21] <pavi> to b e installed in kubuntu
[04:21] <Mez> pavi: sudo apt-get install gaim firefox
[04:21] <mo> pavi: or use adept
[04:22] <pavi> http://pastebin.ca/138804
[04:22] <pavi> mo and mez
[04:22] <pavi> check that
[04:22] <pavi> and firefox needs damn
[04:22] <pavi> stuff
[04:22] <pavi> like gtk
[04:23] <Mez> yes - but you just install those too
[04:23] <Kiongku> pavi: just install.. its auto
[04:23] <mo> pavi: sorry i have only a 4 ay experience in kubuntu, all the soft i insatalled was thru adept
[04:23] <Mez> ah
[04:23] <larson9999> anyone here know how to install an ati wonder elite in kubuntu?  or if it's supported even.  i can't find anything that tells me one way or another.  then again i'm not the best googler.
[04:23] <Mez> pavi: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:23] <pavi> its not workin booh
[04:23] <pavi> ya sure
[04:23] <jorik> ccc_: big thanks
[04:24] <Phreakys> hello
[04:24] <kbrooks> hello Phreakys
[04:24] <Phreakys> i just installed kubuntu 6.06 on my laptop, now it won't boot up the desktop :/
[04:25] <Phreakys> hello kbrooks
[04:25] <anaskius> thank k
[04:25] <Healot> CCCC :)
[04:25] <anaskius> s
[04:25] <kbrooks> np anaskius
[04:25] <Phreakys> anyone can help me with it?
[04:25] <Mez> Phreakys, I'm guessing it leaves you at a command line ?
[04:25] <Phreakys> maybe standard resolution is no good?
[04:25] <Phreakys> yes
[04:26] <Mez> Phreakys, login and then do this
[04:26] <anaskius> now i must have a smoke..
[04:26] <Mez> sudo killall kdm
[04:26] <Mez> kdm
[04:26] <Phreakys> i booted in the command line now from grub, but im a former windows user and quite new to linux
[04:26] <pavi> http://pastebin.ca/138818
[04:26] <Mez> and that should either give you a nice error message
[04:26] <pavi> is the sources.list
[04:26] <Mez> or boot you into the desktopo
[04:26] <mo> ok, thanx to all of you, cya
[04:26] <Phreakys> ah tnx
[04:26] <Phreakys> ill try
[04:27] <Mez> pavi: edit the file - your line that says "#deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[04:27] <redblades> fdoving: (and all the other people) thanks! it all works now!
[04:27] <Mez> " shouldnt have a "#" at the start
[04:27] <Mez> delete that # then do a sudo apt-get update
[04:27] <Mez> and installing should work
[04:27] <fdoving> redblades: you're welcome. a logout/login did the trick?
[04:29] <Phreakys> hm, i cant login with my standard username /pw i made during the installation :/
[04:29] <Phreakys> do i need to login from root?
[04:29] <Mez> use your username you set up when you installed
[04:29] <kbrooks> Phreakys: You cant.
[04:29] <dahump> can anyone tell me how to upgrade my kubuntu distro using apt?
[04:30] <kbrooks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[04:30] <dahump> gee thanks!!
[04:30] <Mez> !tell dahump about upgrading
[04:30] <Mez> !tell mez about upgrading
[04:30] <fdoving> !upgrading > fdoving
[04:30] <redblades> fdoving: yeah
[04:30] <Mez> ?
[04:31] <fdoving> redblades: great :)
[04:31] <redblades> So, now, I need to know how to remove gnome.
[04:31] <redblades> I can't quite seem to get rid of it properly...
[04:33] <pavi> I did that
[04:33] <pavi> but not workin
[04:33] <_gpg_> from where i can get extra repositories, r from where can i update my /etc/apt/sources.list please
[04:34] <fdoving> !source-o-matic
[04:34] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:34] <fdoving> _gpg_: ^^
[04:34] <kblog> how can i configure thunderbird to open firefox instead of konquerror whenever I klick on a link?
[04:35] <_gpg_> fdoving: i found the file for ubuntu but not for kubuntu, are there same ?
[04:35] <fdoving> _gpg_: yes.
[04:35] <fdoving> redblades: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Uninstall_ubuntu-desktop
[04:37] <anaskius> no signal on the digital connection
[04:38] <Jucato> kblog: try to check this thread in the forums: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194515
[04:38] <fdoving> kblog: one of the first google hits: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Changing_the_web_browser_invoked_by_Thunderbird
[04:39] <Jucato> kblog: and this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[04:39] <redblades> fdoving: but it says about removing firefox... I use firefox, because I prefer the gecko engine (among other reasons)
[04:39] <Rodil> there any way to update the package list without getting online?
[04:39] <fdoving> redblades: then i suggest reinstalling firefox afterwards.
[04:39] <fdoving> redblades: that is, if you have the bandwidth to do that.
[04:40] <Phreakys> hm ok, i made a root password so i can login (forgot my userpw :S )
[04:40] <eguzki> estoy desesperada con los repositoriooooos
[04:40] <Jucato> it's quite funny that some people who come in the IRC aren't aware of the forums, and some people in the forums aren't aware of (or don't care about) the IRC... @_@
[04:40] <kblog> jucato: thanx
[04:40] <Jucato> kblog: no problem. be sure to check the 2 thread and the link fdoving gave
[04:40] <Mez> eguzki - #ubuntu-es
[04:40] <Jucato> threads*
[04:41] <redblades> fdoving: yep. Anyway, it's only about 10MBisn't it?
[04:41] <Phreakys> i typed sudo kdm, anything hangs now
[04:42] <Healot> run the init script isntead
[04:42] <Healot> .. /etc/rc.d/kdm start
[04:42] <fdoving> redblades: yes, + some dependencies you also probably need to re-install. don't know how much that would be, but if you're not on isdn/analogue it's not a problem.
[04:42] <Phreakys> will try, tnx healot
[04:42] <redblades> k
[04:43] <Healot> don't try it, Phreakys , not good for health
[04:43] <Jucato> err.... I have a tooltip that won't go away... @_@
[04:44] <leppards> hi can anyone point me to a repository from where I can install e17. I tried the one from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216 but it doesnt work
[04:44] <_gpg_> Is it possible to change the look of kbuntu when it starts (when it loaeds mondules) ?
[04:44] <Jucato> when I mouse-overed (or is it moused-over) KTorrent in system tray, it displayed a tooltip with information.  To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[04:46] <djclue917> is there any way of integrating KBFX into KXDocker?
[04:46] <Jucato> one of the hardest things to make and change... USplash... T_T
[04:46] <Phreakys> hm, could it be possible that kde's resolution is invalid, so i dont get a screen? and if so, where can i change the default resolution from commandline?
[04:46] <fdoving> !xconf
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <Healot> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:46] <fdoving> !xconfig
[04:46] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:47] <Healot> or call 1-800-ILL-BE-THERE
[04:47] <Phreakys> will try ;)
[04:47] <Jucato> lol
[04:47] <Phreakys> sweet, it detects my x700
[04:48] <_gpg_> Healot: not the splash, but he screen when it kbuntu loads befor displaying the popup "longin passwd"
[04:48] <Phreakys> omg, videocard bus identifier? :/
[04:48] <_gpg_> Healot: when it sais mounting ntfs OK, etc
[04:48] <Healot> _gpg_, checkout kde-looks.org
[04:48] <Jucato> _gpg_: that is USplash
[04:49] <_gpg_> Jucato: we can change it ?
[04:49] <Healot> !usplash
[04:49] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[04:49] <Healot> as follows
[04:49] <Jucato> we can. but from my experience, it isn't that easy
[04:49] <Jucato> there are only 3 USplash themes available from KDE-Look.org, last time I checked
[04:50] <Healot> my one cent, if you have no purpose than rather cosmetics, you don't have to change the splash
[04:50] <Jucato> ehehehe
[04:50] <Jucato> maybe we don't HAVE to, but some would certainly WANT to... :-D
[04:50] <redblades> fdoving: Aghhh!!!! It's removing KDE things too!!
[04:51] <Healot> or you'll get the greatest pain in your behind
[04:51] <Jucato> which shouldn't be, right?
[04:51] <fdoving> redblades: write down the package names, and re-install afterwards.
[04:51] <Phreakys> damn
[04:51] <Phreakys> nothing
[04:51] <Jucato> Splashy is a bootsplash theme, but it's easy to change (and lots of themes too)
[04:51] <redblades> I'll just reinstall kubuntu-desktop again. Bah. I'm annoyed though.
[04:52] <Phreakys> maybe kubuntu-desktop is easier to handle than the alternate version?
[04:52] <redblades> Well, yeah
[04:52] <redblades> What do you mean... ?
[04:53] <Phreakys> hm, i installed the alternate package, but it won't initiate the kdm desktop
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> eye candy...
[04:53] <Phreakys> just a blank screen
[04:54] <redblades> ...
[04:54] <redblades> Why is that hard?
[04:56] <Phreakys> i have no clue. i just followed the installation procedures, and end up with this screen. maybe it's giving problems because im installing on a widescreen laptop
[04:56] <Healot> huh
[04:56] <Phreakys> reloaded the x setup though, and selected the right resolutions :/
[04:56] <Healot> follow exactly as?
[04:57] <Healot> different monitor has different refresh rate, change according to yours, not in the example, for F sake :)
[04:57] <Phreakys> well, did everything according to the normal setup procedure without errors
[04:57] <Phreakys> ok, will retry the setup
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> On one of my laptops - the wide screen did not get seen/set right res untull i installed the ati drivers.
[04:59] <rzei> is anyone here using relakks?
[04:59] <rzei> or using a pptp connection? i could use some routing advice
[04:59] <anaskius> is there such thing as 64 bit java?
[05:00] <anaskius> or should i say java runtime enviroment
[05:00] <pavi> I couldnt install bot firefox or
[05:00] <pavi> gaim
[05:01] <rzei> my problem is that i think i have everything set up correctly, i just am not getting anything back from my ppp0
[05:01] <pavi> I have  given error report
[05:01] <pavi> neither could
[05:01] <pavi> I do
[05:01] <pavi> with sources.list
[05:01] <rzei> you don't happen to be italian?
[05:02] <anaskius> how can i get mp3 codecs?
[05:02] <Jucato> !mp3
[05:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:02] <anaskius> okay
[05:03] <Jucato> anaskius: you can use this guide in adding the Multiverse repository: https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html
[05:05] <drak-angel> hey
[05:05] <drak-angel> sup
[05:05] <MitchM> hi
[05:05] <Phreakys> hm trying to setup horizontal sync range, but i have no clue what it is for this laptop :/
[05:05] <drak-angel> hey
[05:06] <tw|sted> hi, has anyone of you ever installed gyachE on dapper?
[05:06] <_gpg_> from where i can install kdeveloppe?
[05:06] <drak-angel> :\
[05:06] <_gpg_> kdevelop
[05:06] <drak-angel> what do u guys talk bout in here any way
[05:06] <drak-angel>  ?
[05:06] <Jucato> !info kdevelop
[05:06] <ubotu> Package kdevelop does not exist in dapper
[05:07] <Hawkwind> _gpg_: sudo apt-get install kdevelop3
[05:07] <Hawkwind> !info kdevelop3
[05:07] <ubotu> kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB
[05:07] <Jucato> oh
[05:07] <Jucato> lol it's kdevelop3 @_@
[05:07] <drak-angel> &_&
[05:07] <Jucato> drak-angel: support channel for Kubuntu
[05:07] <_gpg_> ty
[05:08] <drak-angel> :\?
[05:08] <waspius> i downloaded and installed a desktop manager but it wount work..i need to put somewhere ~/.xresources...does anyone know where?
[05:08] <_gpg_> i forgot to do sudo apt-get update :))
[05:08] <Hawkwind> waspius: What desktop manager ?
[05:08] <_gpg_> !info svn
[05:08] <ubotu> Package svn does not exist in dapper
[05:08] <waspius> Hawkwind: fvwm crystal
[05:08] <drak-angel> jucato:what
[05:09] <Hawkwind> waspius: Why not just sudo apt-get install fvwm   ?
[05:09] <Hawkwind> drak-angel: This channel is a help/support channel for the Kubuntu Linux distro.  Do you have a question concerning Kubuntu ?
[05:10] <Jucato>  <drak-angel> what do u guys talk bout in here any way <--- this is the Support (IRC) Channel for Kubuntu. we talk about Kubuntu-related support inquiries/questions
[05:10] <tw|sted> ubotu: the package is called subversion i think
[05:10] <drak-angel> o
[05:10] <drak-angel> ok
[05:10] <waspius> Hawkwind: i did not know if it would find it
[05:10] <Jucato> tw|sted: you are right
[05:10] <Jucato> !info subversion
[05:10] <ubotu> subversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.1-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 3016 kB
[05:10] <Pensacola> I'm having trouble configuring my sound card to work with my tv card can anyone help me?
[05:10] <Hawkwind> waspius: You should always check by doing:  apt-cache search package-name
[05:10] <tw|sted> talking to bot how great :/
[05:11] <Jucato> ehehe
[05:11] <waspius> Hawkwind: i did not know that
[05:11] <Hawkwind> waspius: You can find out if a package exists by doing that.  In your case, apt-cache search fvwm  would have answered your question
[05:11] <Jucato> _gpg_: was the one looking for it, btw
[05:11] <anaskius> its a hard job getting everything to work in kubuntu..letd hope its worth it
[05:11] <drak-angel> is that all  talk bout
[05:11] <drak-angel> is that all u talk bout
[05:11] <waspius> Hawkwind: ok i will have that in mind..thank you
[05:11] <Jucato> waspius: you could also try typing in "apt:/" in Konqueror. Nice little GUI for apt-cache
[05:11] <ninHer> hi everybody
[05:11] <Hawkwind> drak-angel: That's what the channel is for
[05:11] <drak-angel> o yea
[05:11] <Jucato> drak-angel: considering that's the purpose of the channel, yes
[05:12] <waspius> Jucato: i will check thanx
[05:12] <drak-angel> lol :) right
[05:12] <Jucato> #kubuntu-offtopic is supposed to be the place for non-support related stuff, whether they be related to Kubuntu or not
[05:12] <anaskius> drak-angel this aint no chat!!
[05:13] <drak-angel> yea i know that ant that dum
[05:13] <anaskius> or your regular irc channel
[05:13] <anaskius> i thought you were
[05:13] <Jucato> easy now...
[05:13] <drak-angel> lol fever funny
[05:13] <Ash-Fox> !ati
[05:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:13] <drak-angel> really i thought i was to
[05:14] <drak-angel> not!!!!!!
[05:14] <anaskius> btw is your nick speeled correctly or dont i know what drak means..probably dont
[05:14] <Jucato> guys, chill!!
[05:14] <anaskius> spelled sorry
[05:14] <_gpg_> !info subversion
[05:14] <ubotu> subversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.1-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 3016 kB
[05:14] <drak-angel> duh i know that to
[05:14] <anaskius> im cool..just asker
[05:15] <anaskius> asked
[05:15] <drak-angel> right
[05:15] <fdoving> drak-angel, anaskius: please take this offtopic conversation to #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:15] <anaskius> aint no topic
[05:16] <anaskius> just kidding
[05:16] <fdoving> that's the point, it certainly has nothing to do with Kubuntu support.
[05:16] <kbrooks> anaskius: "kubuntu support channel"
[05:16] <anaskius> i know
[05:16] <kbrooks> chat != support
[05:16] <drak-angel> really
[05:16] <kbrooks> != = is not
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is not - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <anaskius> he or she doesnt
[05:16] <drak-angel> doesnt what
[05:17] <anaskius> just stop that now please..no need to continue
[05:18] <drak-angel>  alright i guess i could stop was going to leave any way tell u said some thing but me leaving any ways
[05:18] <ubuntu> ? mepis, kubuntu live cd works, ubuntu doesnt in pcs
[05:18] <drak-angel> i need some thing to talk bout so peace out
[05:18] <drak-angel> ttyl
[05:20] <waggle7622frack> Anyone good with networking\samba? My KDE system cant access network shares unless I use sudo smb4k.
[05:22] <__osh__> waggle7622frack: what does the samba-log say?
[05:22] <waggle7622frack> just a sec, lettme check
[05:23] <waggle7622frack> never had a problem in gnome
[05:23] <LeeJunFan> samba works great until you try to use it with windows - ironic.
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> it works great with windows for me..
[05:24] <cozomo> how would I allocate more CPU to a certain process
[05:24] <waggle7622frack> works from xp to kde but not kde to anything
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> the thing to rember is that theres different 'ways' to access the shares.. smb4k scans the network and then mounts the shares with smbmnt,  the kde/gnome de's sort of browse the shares and get the info on the flu.
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> on the fly,  i mean.
[05:25] <LeeJunFan> waggle7622frack: how are you trying to access stuff from kde? using smb://machinename or ip/ ?
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> waggle7622frack,  but you say it works with smb4k - so its working. :P
[05:25] <_gpg_> :info apache2
[05:25] <_gpg_> !info apache2
[05:25] <ubotu> apache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 80 kB
[05:26] <waggle7622frack> but only sudo smb4k not any other way
[05:27] <LeeJunFan> waggle7622frack: you probably have to use sudo so it can call smbmount as root. You can also chmod +s smbmount. Which used to be standard practice to allow users to mount their own samba shares.
[05:27] <tw|sted> apaches package size is impressive ^^
[05:27] <mcmorrod> who wants o see my lesbian cock
[05:27] <mcmorrod> hands up ppl
[05:27] <newtothis> why can i use add/remove programs in ubuntu to update to spanish but in kubuntu no?
[05:27] <_gpg_> how to give to user the priviledge to use sudo ? (sudo adduser toto)
[05:27] <mcmorrod> n cocks too
[05:27] <Hawkwind> !ops
[05:27] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak
[05:28] <__osh__> mcmorrod: If she isn't a cook, don't bother.
[05:28] <waggle7622frack> wow, thats a new one to me i'll try that real quick
[05:28] <Hawkwind> mcmorrod: Please take that junk elsewhere
[05:28] <Hawkwind> fdoving: Ahhh, thanks
[05:28] <fdoving> :)
[05:28] <pavi> unable to install xine codecs
[05:28] <pavi> http://pastebin.ca/138919
[05:29] <fdoving> _gpg_: 'sudo adduser username admin'
[05:29] <fdoving> _gpg_: that will add the user 'username' to the group 'admin'.
[05:29] <_gpg_> ty
[05:29] <pavi> hello
[05:29] <pavi> anyone reply
[05:29] <D4rkly> hi has anyone got wine working with the -opengl switch ? i can get it to work without opengl but not with ??
[05:30] <LeeJunFan> waggle7622frack: That may actually be smbmnt you want to chmod, not smbmount.
[05:30] <newtothis> pavi: hello
[05:31] <LeeJunFan> waggle7622frack: yeah, man smbmnt says: A setuid smbmnt will only allow mounts on directories owned by the user, and that the user has write permission on.
[05:31] <pavi> ya
[05:31] <waggle7622frack> yeah I should of noticed that. thanks.
[05:32] <larson9999> D4rkly: is that a compile open?
[05:32] <LeeJunFan> waggle7622frack: using konqueror I normally get to my shares by entering an smb:// url in the location. ie. smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/  to get to my network printer/scanner
[05:32] <Hawkwind> pavi: sudo apt-get install libxine1-extracodecs
[05:33] <Ace123456> !pastebin
[05:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:33] <pavi>  Couldn't find package libxine1-extracodecs
[05:33] <Hawkwind> pavi: Do you have all the sources enabled like Multiverse and Universe ?
[05:33] <Hawkwind> !info libxine-extracodecs
[05:33] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[05:34] <pavi> check my dources.list file
[05:34] <pavi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21097
[05:35] <Hawkwind> pavi: You need to enable Multiverse
[05:35] <Hawkwind> !repos > pavi
[05:35] <LeeJunFan> pavi: on line 22,23 add the word multiverse after universe
[05:35] <tw|sted> Hawk: i think it is enabled ;)
[05:35] <Hawkwind> tw|sted: No it's not
[05:36] <tw|sted> ah, only for backports
[05:36] <tw|sted> sry
[05:36] <pavi> ok
[05:36] <pavi> doin so
[05:36] <pavi> done
[05:36] <pavi> but
[05:36] <pavi> same error
[05:36] <pavi> not able to install gaim
[05:36] <CVirus> msn is that ?
[05:37] <LeeJunFan> pavi: no run 'sudo apt-get update' then try again.
[05:37] <tw|sted> pav: sudo apt-get update ?
[05:37] <LeeJunFan> pavi: you have to run apt-get update to get it to refetch the available package list now that you've enabled multiverse.
[05:37] <pavi> Y a          done  that
[05:37] <Jucato> er... I never knew uniq was fdoving....
[05:38] <pavi> check
[05:38] <pavi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21100
[05:39] <Hawkwind> pavi: It's just sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:39] <LeeJunFan> pavi: yeah, drop the 1
[05:39] <tw|sted> remove the 1
[05:39] <tw|sted> i'm way too slow ;)
[05:39] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Heh.  I was trying to figure out how he responded so quick when the nick 'fdoving' wasn't on the ops list
[05:40] <pavi> dependencies
[05:40] <fdoving> Jucato: yeah.. trying to convert to fdoving now, as that's what i use on forums and everywhere..
[05:40] <pavi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21101
[05:40] <fdoving> Hawkwind: trying to edit the ops list now.. that's why i change nicks.
[05:41] <waggle7622frack> bummer, gotta try latter, thanks for the help.
[05:41] <D4rkly> if i want to put this in my xorg.conf Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true" do i include the word 'option' ? and where do i put this line ?
[05:41] <Jucato> eheh
[05:42] <Hawkwind> D4rkly: Option         "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
[05:42] <LeeJunFan> !info libmad0
[05:42] <ubotu> libmad0: MPEG audio decoder library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.15.1b-2.1 (dapper), package size 75 kB, installed size 160 kB
[05:42] <Hawkwind> D4rkly: Put it under the 'Screen' section
[05:42] <D4rkly> ok
[05:42] <D4rkly> so i include the word Option ?
[05:42] <Hawkwind> D4rkly: Yes.  Just like you see in your xorg.conf
[05:43] <pavi> ok
[05:43] <LeeJunFan> pavi: you have main turned off - uncomment line 4 from sources.list
[05:43] <LeeJunFan> pavi: then apt-get update again
[05:43] <pavi> ok
[05:43] <pavi> oh
[05:47] <waspius> Hawkwind: i installed fvwm but it wount load..i think i need to remove the fvwm-crystal that i had installed previously or something..
[05:47] <leolinux> oie
[05:48] <Hawkwind> What errors do you get when it tries to start ?
[05:48] <waspius> Hawkwind: know what i might be able to do?
[05:48] <waspius> Hawkwind: i dont get any...it goes to load and it stays stuck
[05:48] <leolinux> im brazilian
[05:48] <leolinux> im testing kubuntu
[05:49] <Hawkwind> waspius: Try removing the other stuff you installed previously then
[05:49] <waspius> Hawkwind: i tried apt-get remove fvwm-crystal but it cannot find it
[05:50] <Hawkwind> waspius: How did you install it ?
[05:50] <Hawkwind> waspius: I thought you said you downloaded it and compiled it
[05:50] <waspius> Hawkwind: yes
[05:51] <Kiongku> hey guys.. how to rename a folder by console?
[05:51] <waspius> Hawkwind: is there any way i can find it?
[05:51] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: mv /old/directory /new/directory
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> Hmm..  time to toy with skype
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> !skype
[05:52] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[05:52] <Hawkwind> waspius: Delete all the files/directories it created
[05:52] <Hawkwind> waspius: Or, go into the directory the .tar file created, and do make uninstall
[05:53] <waspius> Hawkwind: you mean the file created after extract?
[05:53] <Hawkwind> waspius: Yes
[05:53] <Hawkwind> waspius: Try make uninstall or possibly sudo make uninstall
[05:53] <waspius> Hawkwind: ok i will try
[05:56] <CVirus> how can I make kmixer start on KDE launch ?
[05:56] <Jucato> CVirus: go to ~/.kde/Autostart
[05:57] <Jucato> right-click, Create New > Link to URL
[05:57] <Jucato> then in the "Enter link to location", put "/usr/bin/kmix" (without the quotes)
[05:58] <CVirus> Jucato: Thanks alot
[05:58] <Jucato> sure
[05:58] <zippy> hi
[05:58] <zippy> everyone
[05:58] <MitchM> Hello
[05:58] <Jucato> hi
[05:58] <zippy> nice to meet you
[05:59] <CVirus> !
[05:59] <CVirus> asl plz ?
[05:59] <CVirus> :-p
[05:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[05:59] <zippy> someone speak french please ? if it possible
[05:59] <Jucato> !fr
[05:59] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:59] <CVirus> !ar
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <zippy> ok merci beaucoup :)
[06:00] <Jucato> there might be some french people, here, though... ^_^
[06:00] <zippy> yes i think too
[06:00] <BluesKaj> added a new TV tuner card to my pc ...what's the cmd for kubuntu to recognize it so i can install the right drivers etc ?
[06:01] <BluesKaj> ATI TV Wonder Pro
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> well - i hate to tell ya some bad news... :P
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> but that tv tuner may not be very well supported.. if at all.
[06:04] <BluesKaj> ok ...it doesn't show up in the hardware list
[06:06] <BluesKaj> prolly run in wine but I think i'll just use it in windows ...just thought I'd ask
[06:06] <harry> kann mir wer sagen wie ich auf quakenet komme wr ein feiner zug
[06:06] <BluesKaj> !de
[06:06] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:07] <harry> thx
[06:07] <BluesKaj> np
[06:07] <jasondotgnu> When I get to install xgl on kubuntu, I got this:
[06:07] <jasondotgnu> Section "Extensions"
[06:07] <jasondotgnu>  Option "Composite" "Enable"
[06:07] <jasondotgnu>  EndSection
[06:08] <jasondotgnu> sorry, wrong paste
[06:08] <jasondotgnu> compiz-kde: Depends: compiz (= 0.0.2-4ubuntu2) but 0.0.13-0quinn32 is to be in
[06:08] <jasondotgnu> stalled
[06:08] <jasondotgnu> how can this dependency problem fixed?
[06:09] <CVirus> Kweather never works ?
[06:10] <Jucato> CVirus: what do you mean by "never works"?
[06:11] <CVirus> it never worked for me
[06:11] <CVirus> Jucato: neither with KDE installed on my desktop nor my laptop
[06:11] <CVirus> Jucato: it says Unkown station
[06:11] <CVirus> Uknown*
[06:11] <Jucato> CVirus: have you tried changing the station?
[06:11] <CVirus> Jucato: cant find any others
[06:12] <CVirus> Jucato: I tried with a state in the USA and still didnt want to work
[06:12] <Hawkwind> CVirus: Add a second station then check to see if the first one is working
[06:12] <Jucato> CVirus: that's strange, it always works for me. Although I had to manually add my country's airport code
[06:13] <CVirus> Jucato: where are its conf files ?
[06:13] <Jucato> CVirus: it should be in /usr/share/apps/kweatherstation or something like that
[06:13] <CVirus> will see
[06:14] <Jucato> but before you go adding things manually (it can be quite tedious), you might want to check if other stations are working
[06:14] <Jucato> I'm installing KWeather to verify
[06:17] <Jucato> CVirus: what station were you trying?
[06:19] <CVirus> Jucato: there are no stations in the list
[06:20] <CVirus> Jucato: I'm trying Cross City airport station
[06:20] <Jucato> CVirus: no stations when you right-click on KWeather > Configure KWeather > Weather Service options?
[06:21] <CVirus> Jucato: ahh
[06:21] <CVirus> i thought the other one
[06:21] <CVirus> Jucato: well .. I tried Cairo and didnt work
[06:21] <CVirus> Jucato: trying Cross City and didnt work oo
[06:21] <CVirus> tooU
[06:21] <CVirus> too*
[06:21] <Jucato> CVirus: let me try Cairo
[06:22] <CVirus> its under africa .. not middle east
[06:22] <Jucato> CVirus: of course, Cairo is in Egypt :-D
[06:22] <Jucato> Cairo works for me
[06:22] <CVirus> which is weird
[06:23] <Jucato> CVirus: try this:
[06:23] <CVirus> Jucato: Cairo is in africa and its part of the middle east
[06:23] <Jucato> Actually, Africa is a continent of its own
[06:23] <Jucato> "middle east" refers to the Asian countries.
[06:23] <CVirus> i meant cairo is part of the middle east
[06:23] <CVirus> ahh
[06:23] <Jucato> anyway...
[06:23] <willard> Hi guys, could someone help me with a slight problem?
[06:24] <willard> total newb here
[06:24] <Hawkwind> willard: Just ask your question
[06:24] <Jucato> CVirus: pick Cairo, then click on Add.
[06:24] <CVirus> Jucato: okay ?
[06:24] <Jucato> CVirus: then click on Update All, and wait for the question mark to disappear
[06:24] <willard> I'm dual booting xp and ubutu and set up a fat32 partition, but it won't mount as uhbutu boots up
[06:25] <willard> I tried to set it to mount to /share
[06:25] <CVirus> Jucato: as soon as I clicked it disappeared
[06:25] <D4rkly> sudo -t vfat /dev/<drive> /mnt
[06:25] <Jucato> CVirus: ok, now click on OK to close the window, and right-click again on KWeather and choose COnfigure KWeather
[06:25] <D4rkly> lol
[06:25] <willard> will that make it permanent?
[06:25] <D4rkly> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/<drive> /mnt
[06:25] <Hawkwind> Ummmm
[06:26] <willard> sorry, total newb here - installed last night
[06:26] <Jucato> doesn't Ubuntu use /media, not /mnt, by default?
[06:26] <Hawkwind> willard: Not unless you add it to your /etc/fstab
[06:26] <Hawkwind> Jucato: It has both
[06:26] <Hawkwind> Jucato: But when manually mounting something, you can mount wherever you want
[06:26] <willard> yes, it works that way
[06:26] <D4rkly> yeah you can use media
[06:26] <CVirus> Jucato: now ?
[06:26] <D4rkly> create a dir in there first
[06:26] <Jucato> Hawkwind: yeah, I just noticed that the default is /media
[06:27] <Jucato> CVirus: then in the Display options (the one on top of Weather Service), you can choose Cairo Airport from the drop-down list
[06:27] <willard> can someone walk me through editing /etc/fstab?
[06:27] <Hawkwind> willard: sudo mkdir /mnt/windows && sudo mount -t auto /dev/hdx /mnt/windows   Replace 'hdx' with the actual device number
[06:27] <Jucato> CVirus: Location: <drop-down list>
[06:27] <Jucato> CVirus: then click on Apply, then OK. KWeather will be working
[06:27] <Hawkwind> willard: Worry about getting it mounted first, then you can do your fstab
[06:27] <willard> it is mounted at the moment
[06:28] <D4rkly> you need -t vfat for fat32
[06:28] <CVirus> Jucato: I choose cairo airport but when i click ok and open that window again ... it goes back to cross blah airport
[06:28] <CVirus> Jucato: cross cit
[06:28] <CVirus> city*
[06:28] <Jucato> CVirus: did you click on Apply before clicking on OK?
[06:28] <Hawkwind> willard: Is this a windows drive you will be booting to or just have files on ?
[06:28] <Hawkwind> D4rkly: No you don't
[06:28] <willard> it just has some files - music & docs
[06:29] <willard> parted says its partition 4
[06:29] <CVirus> Jucato: lemme try that
[06:29] <Hawkwind> D4rkly: That's for things like usb sticks and such.  -t auto is for actual partitions on a harddrive
[06:29] <CVirus> Jucato: I clicked ok without apply .. let me try
[06:29] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: do u know how often the repos of ubuntu get refreshed?
[06:29] <Hawkwind> willard: Type: mount   and paste the results to pastebin.ca
[06:29] <_gpg_> hi again :)
[06:29] <willard> in the console? ok
[06:29] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Can be several times per day I'm sure
[06:29] <Hawkwind> willard: Yes
[06:30] <_gpg_> i cant run adept installer (it freezes the last run) and i'm having this popup (i rebooted my pc) :
[06:30] <Hawkwind> willard: Then visit http://pastebin.ca and paste the info there and give us the resulting URL
[06:30] <willard> ok
[06:30] <CVirus> Jucato: cross city airport doesnt want to leave the menu .. and cairo airport disappeared
[06:30] <Jucato> Kiongku: the ubuntu servers or our local apt cache?
[06:30] <_gpg_> Annother process is using the packaging system database, please close other appliation before using this one !!
[06:30] <willard> ok
[06:31] <Jucato> CVirus: did you click on Update All after you Added Cairo?
[06:31] <CVirus> yes
[06:31] <Kiongku> Jucato: the servers.. bcoz i wanted a better version of amarok
[06:31] <Jucato> oh
[06:31] <CVirus> Jucato: cairo airport appeared now again :D
[06:31] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: What version do you have currently ?
[06:31] <Jucato> Kiongku: what version are you using now?
[06:31] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: none.. compiling 1.4.2beta1 right now
[06:32] <Jucato> oh
[06:32] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Why ?  What do you need 1.4.2 for ?
[06:32] <Jucato> I guess 1.4.2 is still beta = unstable
[06:32] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: i want to see if collection recognises wma.. by any chance
[06:32] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Wouldn't it say in the changelog if it supports wma yet ?
[06:32] <willard> "/dev/sda4 on /shared type vfat (rw)" is the one I would like to have mounted this way at boot
[06:32] <Kiongku> Jucato: well its not like the kernel :P bad = kicked out
[06:33] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: my bad XD.. i think ur right
[06:33] <Jucato> Kiongku: now, but beta = unstalbe = could crash your system :-D
[06:33] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: it was an experience though.. i went high and low to look for the devel packages
[06:33] <Kiongku> Jucato: bah.. i became so used to rebuild the system.. can come back online in less than 2 hrs XD
[06:34] <Jucato> lol
[06:34] <willard> http://pastebin.ca/139017
[06:34] <Jucato> I get tired of doing that after a while, specially since I have customized a lot on my system
[06:34] <Jucato> CVirus: is it working now?
[06:34] <dr_willis> heck - i got issues with some parts of dapper still. :)
[06:34] <CVirus> Jucato: not yet
[06:34] <Kiongku> Jucato: lol.. i'm on the saem road as u.. well at least u will know if its safe or not :p
[06:34] <Jucato> haha!
[06:35] <Jucato> but I don't compile stuff (yet)
[06:35] <faked_> how do I install a .tar.bz2 file?
[06:35] <faked_> I know it's an archive or something but everything i DL that needs to be installed comes in a .tar.bz2 and I dunno how to install anything
[06:35] <Hawkwind> willard: To add an NTFS Windows partition to your /etc/fstab file it *should* look like this:  /dev/sda4 /media/windows  vfat nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       0
[06:36] <Hawkwind> willard: Try using something like that in your fstab for your drive and see if it will mount on boot or not
[06:36] <willard> this partition is fat32
[06:36] <Jucato> CVirus: I'm stumped...
[06:37] <willard> sda4 is the one I want
[06:37] <Hawkwind> willard: I know.  Hence the line says vfat
[06:37] <willard> ahh, ok, LOL
[06:37] <Hawkwind> willard: I put NTFS in the beginning by accident
[06:37] <Kiongku> hey guys.. whats libfam.la ?
[06:37] <faked_> how do I install a .tar.bz2 file?
[06:37] <dr_willis> !info libfam
[06:37] <ubotu> Package libfam does not exist in dapper
[06:37] <dr_willis> !info libfam-dev
[06:37] <ubotu> libfam-dev: client library to control the FAM daemon - development files. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.0-8ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 36 kB, installed size 148 kB
[06:37] <jpatrick> !compiling
[06:37] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:37] <willard> ok - how do I edit this file now?
[06:38] <jpatrick> ^fak
[06:38] <jpatrick> faked_: ^
[06:38] <Jucato> whoa! jpatrick jumped to life :-D
[06:38] <dr_willis> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[06:38] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: if i try to install libfam.. it wants to remove adep,etc :S
[06:38] <dr_willis> for all your ntfs needs - bookmark that page
[06:38] <jpatrick> Jucato: \o/
[06:38] <Jucato> lol I'm still here!
[06:39] <root__> hello
[06:39] <Hawkwind> willard: kdesu kwrite /etc/fstab
[06:39] <phreakys> hi
[06:39] <Hawkwind> willard: Replace kwrite with your favorite editor of choice
[06:39] <dr_willis> wowsers. :P
[06:39] <phreakys> managed to fix the monitor problem by following the ati instructions on the kubuntu guid
[06:39] <phreakys> e
[06:40] <phreakys> would like to have wireless on my laptop now, using wireless assistant. it connects fine, but i cant ping the computer neither visit any website
[06:41] <dr_willis> cant ping internet sites like www.google.com --> dns server set wrong .. cant ping them by IP --> gateway is set wrong
[06:41] <dr_willis> cant ping machines on the local lan --> network card not set up right. perhaps.
[06:41] <phreakys> yea, probably. it did detect the right type on setup allready though
[06:42] <D4rkly> dr try ifconfig
[06:42] <dr_willis> ive also seen wireless cards show they were connected.. but not actually conneted. :P
[06:42] <phreakys> hm
[06:42] <faked_> I read the page on compiling but I don't understand it
[06:43] <willard> hmm, will not let me save changes to /etc/fstab
[06:44] <dr_willis> faked_,  theres dozens of articals/examples/docs.. it also depends on what you are compiling.. in short.. untar/gz the archive, cd to it.. ./configure, make, make install
[06:44] <D4rkly> willard you need to open it using sudo kate /etc/fstab
[06:44] <willard> ahh, ok
[06:45] <faked_> but when I run "make install"
[06:45] <D4rkly> make sure to press enter after the last line so there is a 1 blank line under the last line
[06:45] <faked_> it returns "make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop."
[06:45] <D4rkly> otherwise fstab wont execute
[06:45] <willard> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[06:45] <dr_willis> faked_,  sounbds like ya need to read the isntall docs for the program then.   - does 'make' work?
[06:46] <faked_> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[06:46] <willard> sudo kate /etc/fstab  does not work
[06:46] <ninHer_> hi all
[06:46] <willard> kate is ?
[06:46] <D4rkly> oh i use kate
[06:46] <Jucato> kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[06:46] <Jucato> !kdesu
[06:46] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:47] <Hawkwind> willard: I did mention kdesu kwrite /etc/fstab and *not* sudo kwrite /etc/fstab for a reason
[06:48] <willard> command not found
[06:49] <dr_willis> pick some OTHER editor then willard
[06:49] <faked_> Goddammit i come here for help and you refer me to the docs don't help so I come back here, and I'm ignored.
[06:49] <Jucato> kate...
[06:49] <willard> gedit?
[06:49] <willard> kdesu gedit /etc/fstab
[06:49] <willard> ?
[06:50] <Jucato> gedit doesn't exist in KDE
[06:50] <dr_willis> faked_,  be clear, and concise. and patient.
[06:50] <faked_> I'm being as clear as I can
[06:50] <dr_willis> its highly possoble you are doing somthing trivialy wrong.. now Exactly WHAT are you trying to compile.
[06:50] <faked_> I told you my problem. I don't know how to install it. The docs don't help.
[06:50] <willard> I'm on gnome I think
[06:50] <faked_> It's a bittorrent client, Ctorrent.
[06:51] <Jucato> willard: oh. the "gksu gedit /etc/fstab" then
[06:51] <coachj> I have an intresting puzzle, I use two superkaramba widgets which I want to start at login so I config session mgr to save the last session. At login the Kmixer window appears on the desktop, even thou it is not running at session end
[06:51] <coachj> This doesn't happen if I dont have superkaramba running the widgets.
[06:51] <draik> faked_, open up your konsole and type 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[06:51] <willard> that worked - thanks
[06:51] <dr_willis> faked_,  so you downloaded and did a   tar xzvf ctorrent-source-file.tar.gz
[06:52] <faked_> I did a tar jxvf ctorrent-1.3.4.tar.bz2
[06:52] <faked_> then I did ./configure
[06:52] <willard> ok - gonna reboot
[06:52] <faked_> exactly like the docs told me to
[06:52] <dr_willis> faked_,  cd INTO the directory where the source is at.
[06:52] <faked_> I'm in it as we speak.
[06:53] <dr_willis> so whats in there? see a makefile? see a configure file?
[06:53] <faked_> there's a configure file.
[06:53] <faked_> and makefile.am, and makefile.in
[06:53] <dr_willis> normally ./configure scans a lot of things, then makes some files, then you use 'make'
[06:54] <faked_> it did scan lots of things
[06:54] <faked_> but make doesn't do anything.
[06:54] <faked_> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[06:54] <dr_willis> let me boot up ubuntu and see. :)
[06:59] <Daillew> hi, anyone here ever use chatzilla?
[07:00] <Daillew> when i connect  i get the message ,[ERROR] 	You need to be an operator in #kubuntu to do that. any idea why?
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> ./configure and make works for me.. I am guessing your ./configure is failing due to some libs being needed - and thus not making the right makefiles.
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> i forget who i was even talking to earlier.
[07:01] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: it was faked_
[07:02] <wallace> Hi Does someone speak frenche ?
[07:02] <abattoir> !fr
[07:02] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:02] <waspius_> i installed fvwm but it does not load..anyone know why?
[07:02] <abattoir> wallace: you can find people there^^^ :)
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> well i got to go mow the yard.. bbl
[07:02] <vanne> can anyone point me to a default sources.list file from 6.06(.1) ?
[07:03] <wallace> thanx
[07:03] <vanne> updating from ubuntu 5.x to kubuntu 6.06
[07:03] <abattoir> vanne source-o-matic is a tool which helps regenerate your sources.list file
[07:03] <abattoir> !source-o-matic
[07:03] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:03] <Daveyboy> despite using kdm and kde, my vncserver conenction uses a gnome desktop, can anybody help to configure to kde?
[07:03] <Daveyboy> despite using kdm and kde, my vncserver conenction uses a gnome desktop, can anybody help to configure to kde?
[07:04] <vanne> merci abattoir
[07:04] <abattoir> vanne: hehe, dont let the name mislead you :P
[07:04] <vanne> :)
[07:05] <Daveyboy> anybody?
[07:06] <Daveyboy> if installing ubuntu then doing an apt-get instal kubuntu-desktop, i sit a "true" kubuntu box?
[07:06] <Admiral_Chicago> Daveyboy, yes
[07:07] <apallo19> why not just install kde?
[07:07] <Daveyboy> so why is vncserver defaulting to gnome
[07:07] <abattoir> Daveyboy: you'd still have gnome installed
[07:07] <Daveyboy> how do i remove gnome?
[07:08] <apallo19> apt-get remove gnome
[07:08] <abattoir> Daveyboy: i guess you'd need to remove 'ubuntu-desktop'
[07:08] <D4rkly> is there a site where i can search for amarok compatable radio stations ?
[07:09] <abattoir> D4rkly: shoutcast.com ??
[07:10] <phreakys_> i have no clue how to get this wireless thing working :/
[07:10] <cilkay> Hello. I have the 6.06 live CD in my ThinkPad. I want to see if it supports the ThinkPad function controls, specifically switching between the LCD panel and the external VGA output for connecting to a projector. Does the default Live CD support that?
[07:10] <abattoir> D4rkly: amarok supports any mp3 station... actually any station for which you have the appropriate codec installed
[07:10] <willard> didn't work guys - I'll do some more reading about mount points I guess
[07:10] <Daillew> D4rkly: try here http://dir.xiph.org/index.php
[07:10] <abattoir> phreakys_: which card(chipset)?
[07:10] <willard> I can access the drive - just won't mount at boot
[07:10] <pihl> I'm trying to get mp3's working in audioplayers like amarok etc, and in the RestrictedFormats wiki on the ubuntu site it tells me to install libxine-extracodecs, but surely, it doesn't exist. (all repositories enabled, of course).
[07:10] <Daveyboy> do i need to reboot after removing gnome?
[07:10] <Daveyboy> ubuntu-desktop
[07:10] <abattoir> cilkay: not sure... you might need to choose the keyboard layout...
[07:11] <pihl> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[07:11] <abattoir> cilkay: kcontrol(or systemsettings)->Regional and Acc.->Keyboard Layout->Keyboard model
[07:12] <Dodger> hia ll
[07:12] <Dodger> hi all even
[07:12] <abattoir> pihl: my guess is you havent enabled the repos properly
[07:12] <phreakys_> its an intell pro wireless 2200 bg
[07:12] <phreakys_> i setup ssid and wep key, but its not working
[07:12] <abattoir> pihl: check if the distribution in the appropriate line(where you added universe/multiverse) is dapper, instead of dapper-backports
[07:12] <pablo7> waspius_ Still want to know about fvwm?
[07:12] <Daillew> pihl try automatix http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
[07:12] <apallo19> ooo, using an ibm lappy eh?
[07:12] <phreakys_> wireless assistant detects the network, and says it connects
[07:13] <OOD> !grub
[07:13] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:13] <pihl> okey, I installed that yesterday, guess I missed the audio codecs part ;)
[07:13] <abattoir> phreakys_: try 'sudo ifup ethX' where ethX is the name of your interface
[07:13] <cilkay> abattoir: thanks. I'm running Kubuntu on this machine, which is not the laptop. The laptop only has the Live CD, which has Gnome. I tried starting /usr/bin/systemsettings from a shell on the laptop but nothing. Most be some Gnome equivalent.
[07:13] <waspius_> pablo7: yes please
[07:13] <phreakys_> will do. tnx abattoir
[07:13] <abattoir> cilkay: i'm not aware of the gnome equivalent :(. but you could ask at #ubuntu
[07:14] <phreakys_> "interface eth0 already configured"
[07:14] <phreakys_> eth0 is my wireless connection
[07:14] <phreakys_> ifconfig
[07:14] <pablo7> waspius_ Do you have a command line?
[07:14] <apallo19> !find smbfs
[07:14] <ubotu> Found: smbfs
[07:14] <phreakys_> oops, wrong box :)
[07:14] <apallo19> oops, wrong channel
[07:14] <cilkay> abattoir: silly me. I thought I was in #ubuntu. Konversation automatically joined this channel. Thanks for the help.
[07:14] <abattoir> phreakys_: do you see your network card in 'iwconfig' of 'ifconfig' ?
[07:15] <abattoir> cilkay: after all konversation is a KDE app :P
[07:15] <waspius_> pablo7: u mean konsole?yes
[07:16] <cilkay> abattoir: you don't have to convince me on the merits of KDE over Gnome. I've been using KDE for years. I'm a fish out of water on the Live CD though since it's Gnome.
[07:16] <tk> !restricted
[07:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:16] <pablo7> waspius_ Okay type "whereis fvwm" at the prompt.
[07:16] <phreakys_> sort of
[07:16] <abattoir> cilkay: hehe, i never try to convince anyone about the merits of KDE over GNOME, its your choice.. :)
[07:16] <Dodger> i've got trouble with my proxy settings in dapper... kdesu doesn't seem to find either the ones i've setup in the control panel or the http_proxy environment variable - i've got to sudo adept to make it able to connect, starting it through KDE will make it error out on download
[07:16] <phreakys_> eth0 had ieee 802.11g
[07:17] <apallo19> !find samba packages
[07:17] <ubotu> Found: dpsyco-samba, python2.4-samba, samba, samba-common, samba-dbg (and 3 others)
[07:17] <waspius_> pablo7: /usr/bin/fvwm /usr/lib/fvwm /usr/bin/X11/fvwm /usr/share/fvwm /usr/share/man/man1/fvwm.1.gz
[07:18] <ep> Should I ask this here? How do you create a symbolic link to file using konqueror?  right click menu gives Create new | Link to application... device...  location...  No menu option seems to work.
[07:19] <abattoir> ep: link to location?
[07:20] <pihl> Daillew, thanks, worked excellent with automatix :)
[07:20] <Daillew> welcome mate
[07:20] <Daveyboy> anyone know where i can set kde as my window manager in a vncserver connection?
[07:21] <ep> link to location (URL) seems to create a  *.desktop file
[07:21] <pablo7> waspius_ The "/usr/bin/fvwm" part is the path you'll need to test it out.   Anyone experience any problems installing Kubuntu from cd boot where the SBM disk won't identify the drive properly? When I try to boot from the CD using SBM i get a Disk Error: 0x0C
[07:22] <abattoir> ep: then i have no idea... sorry
[07:22] <waspius_> pablo7: ok done
[07:22] <abattoir> ep: you could probably download a service menu extension from kde-apps.org, if the feature isnt already present in konq.
[07:23] <ep> I'll continue my google search then
[07:23] <ninHer_> hi all
[07:24] <Phreakys> test
[07:24] <Joseph> Hello all. Anyone experience any problems installing Kubuntu from cd boot where the SBM disk won't identify the drive properly? When I try to boot from the CD using SBM i get a Disk Error: 0x0C Since it is a DVD-Rom drive I wonder if this may be a conflict, the sbm is detecting it as a Cd-Rom drive
[07:24] <Phreakys> how do i change my userpw from root user?
[07:24] <Phreakys> (forgot it)
[07:25] <matrix> hi is there any reason why amarok doesn't play mp3s? engine is set to xine output alsa. flacs are played fine. inet radio to. just mp3 doesnt work
[07:25] <pablo7> waspius_ Alright, if you don't have another user setup, you can do this with sudo.  Login, type sudo -i, & type your password again.
[07:26] <Admiral_Chicago> matrix, libraries?
[07:27] <matrix> Admiral_Chicago: libxine-extracodecs is installed. i restarted amarok after installing it
[07:27] <Hawkwind> Phreakys: passwd <user>
[07:27] <Admiral_Chicago> no idea, perhaps the other libraries?
[07:27] <Phreakys> tnx
[07:27] <matrix> Admiral_Chicago: which else do i need?
[07:28] <Admiral_Chicago> !mp3
[07:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:28] <matrix> i will look there thx
[07:28] <mattis1> apt-get install gobby and join the ting in half an hour http://is-root.de/w/index.php/tingWiki/ting73
[07:28] <mattis1> jam session kinda
[07:29] <mattis1> five participants five cursors, everybody writes everywhere
[07:29] <pussfeller> whats up with youtube in firefox and no dound
[07:29] <pussfeller> no sound
[07:29] <pussfeller> i added that dsp thing to the firefoxrc
[07:29] <pussfeller> aoss
[07:30] <pussfeller> FIREFOX_DSP=aoss
[07:32] <Kiongku> Jucato: yo jucato u here?
[07:32] <waspius_> pablo7:confused
[07:32] <Jucato> Kiongku: just got back
[07:32] <Kiongku> Jucato: do u have wma files?
[07:32] <Jucato> I think I do, let me check
[07:33] <Jucato> Kiongku: I guess not...
[07:34] <pablo7> waspius_  Did you login at the virtual console?  Once you do, type "startx /usr/bin/fvwm -- :1" and let me know how it goes.
[07:34] <Jucato> I thought I did....
[07:34] <Kiongku> Jucato: how did u check?
[07:35] <willard> got it to work guys - thanks!
[07:35] <Jucato> Kiongku: locate:/*.wma
[07:35] <Jucato> Kiongku: still looking
[07:35] <Kiongku> Jucato: ah lol ok
[07:35] <waspius_> pablo7: login as root?
[07:35] <Jucato> Kiongku: I kept one after all. I guess locate:/ doesn't look hard enough :-D
[07:36] <Kiongku> Jucato: hehe.. do u own the default amarok?
[07:36] <Jucato> trying to see if AMarok will detect it
[07:36] <Kiongku> Jucato: yah :p
[07:36] <Jucato> yep it did
[07:36] <Jucato> :-D
[07:36] <Jucato> Amarok 1.4.1
[07:37] <Kiongku> cool its a custom one?
[07:37] <Jucato> no
[07:37] <pablo7> waspius_  Not if you don't want to.  Just type your username at the prompt.  Next enter your password.
[07:37] <Kiongku> Default?
[07:37] <Daveyboy> does ubuntu and kubuntu use the same repo's?
[07:37] <Jucato> special release from Kubuntu
[07:37] <Jucato> something like KDE 3.5.4
[07:37] <Jucato> Daveyboy: yes, except for new releases of KDE, KOffice, and Amarok
[07:38] <Jucato> Kiongku: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[07:38] <Kiongku> Jucato: doh.. well i think bcoz i changed repos
[07:38] <Kiongku> Jucato: cant find it in repos
[07:38] <Jucato> Kiongku: a word of warning though, FLAC doesn't work in Amarok 1.4.1
[07:38] <Kiongku> Jucato: FLAC files?
[07:38] <Jucato> Kiongku: yeh.
[07:38] <Kiongku> Jucato: got 1.4.2
[07:39] <Kiongku> Jucato: and i think no FLAC files to test out  ( '')
[07:39] <Jucato> Kiongku: there are three things that are released separately in Kubuntu: KDE, KOffice, and Amarok
[07:39] <Kiongku> Jucato: i see
[07:39] <Jucato> Kiongku: it's ok. but does Amarok 1.4.2 detect WMA?
[07:39] <Jucato> I mean, does it include WMA's in the collection?
[07:39] <waspius_> pablo7: fatal error server already running
[07:39] <Kiongku> Jucato: yah.. it shows up in collection
[07:40] <Jucato> and that didn't happen in Amarok 1.3.9? (default Kubuntu install)
[07:40] <pussfeller> the prob with flac isnt amarok, its xine
[07:40] <Kiongku> Jucato: yap
[07:40] <Jucato> well, yeah
[07:40] <Jucato> the combination of Amarok and xine...
[07:41] <Jucato> i mean, Amarok 1.4.1 and the current xine version
[07:41] <pussfeller> i have the latest xinelib and use an svn amarok, and its still messed up
[07:41] <pussfeller> so it must be old xinelibs floating around I GUESS
[07:41] <Kiongku> Jucato: now it remains only the scripting part for me to try learn  ._.
[07:41] <pussfeller> so how to fix sound in youtube/flash
[07:41] <pussfeller> annoying me to no end
[07:41] <Jucato> pussfeller: some have patched/compiled the new xine and was able to make FLAC play in Amarok
[07:41] <janne> f
[07:42] <pussfeller> the latest xinelib is supposed to fix the flac issues
[07:42] <Kiongku> Whats FLAC anyway.. can someone send me a link to one?
[07:42] <pussfeller> flac is a free lossless codec
[07:42] <tk> FLAC is Free Lossless Audio Codec
[07:42] <tk> google it
[07:42] <Kiongku> hmm i think i'll search the net for one file to test out
[07:42] <pussfeller> ie, it sounds great and its opensource, larger file size than mp3s ussually
[07:43] <pussfeller> i think its the same as an ogg, but not
[07:43] <pussfeller> heh
[07:43] <Jucato> pussfeller: ogg vorbis is not lossless
[07:43] <Kiongku> Can someone send me a small flac file for me to test my amarok?
[07:43] <tk> there you go Kiongku
[07:43] <Jucato> and OGG covers ogg vorbis, ogg theora, etc...
[07:43] <pablo7> waspius_  It could either be root permissions or that the display is already in use.  Type "sudo -i" and login as root.  Next type "/usr/bin/fvwm -- :2" because chances are that display is free.
[07:43] <tk> its not small but  its all I got :P
[07:44] <tk> well a meg or 2
[07:44] <Kiongku> oh O_o
[07:44] <tk> or 24....
[07:44] <Kiongku> timed out lol
[07:44] <Kiongku> h,,
[07:44] <Kiongku> hmm
[07:44] <Kiongku> i have a rather large dl behind may be its the reason.. dl 2006 live cd for gentoo
[07:45] <tk> heh
[07:45] <tk> let me see if another song is smller
[07:45] <pablo7> waspius_  Sorry it's "startx /usr/bin/fvwm -- :2" that you should type.
[07:46] <Kiongku> tk: i gofire on.. is it bcoz of that?
[07:46] <Kiongku> *got firewall
[07:46] <tk> Kiongku: could be....
[07:46] <Kiongku> strange.. dcc from others bot works
[07:46] <Kiongku> wait i test out
[07:46] <Kiongku> from a bot
[07:47] <tk> k
[07:47] <tk> oh wait. let me reset my eth0
[07:47] <tk> forgot, new install, my ip is DHCP instead of wht it should be
[07:50] <Kiongku> tk: lol
[07:50] <Kiongku> tk: i getting dcc alright with bot
[07:50] <Kiongku> tk: its really ur side then?
[07:51] <pussfeller> dcc send Kiongku /media/sda1/music/Audio_Books/Bibles/NASB - flac/001_Matthew/NASB - 05 - Matthew Chapter 05.flac"
[07:52] <pussfeller> errr
[07:52] <nalioth> pussfeller: be careful with that, please
[07:52] <pussfeller> irssi dont like spaces in file names
[07:52] <Kiongku> yay thx guys ^^ tk dcc is working alright
[07:52] <Kiongku> thx pussfeller
[07:52] <tk> Kiongku: yah it helps when you have the right IP in your eth0 configs ;)
[07:52] <tk> (by you I mean me :P)
[07:53] <Kiongku> tk: hehe i use pp0
[07:53] <Kiongku> *ppp0
[07:53] <tk> ppp0 as in dialup?
[07:53] <Kiongku> tk: nah as in sucking usb adsl modem that took me 1 week before knowing how to get kubuntu online
[07:54] <pussfeller> ach
[07:54] <waspius> pablo7: sorry my mistake..it opens but i think it needs configuration
[07:54] <pussfeller> an acaltel sppedboard or wahtever?
[07:54] <Kiongku> now that made me want to stick to kubuntu for a while.. i'll let my friend try out gentoo XD
[07:54] <Kiongku> sagem fast 800
[07:54] <pussfeller> its best just to make them give you one that plugs into the lan card
[07:55] <pussfeller> if they will
[07:55] <tk> Kiongku: ahhh hehe that sucks :P
[07:55] <Kiongku> pussfeller: not here.. my isp sucks
[07:55] <Kiongku> tk: it took me 1 week to realise i could get build-essential from the cd.. without that tip i would be stuck forever
[07:55] <tk> Kiongku: most of those modems have both ports.... you can plug in if you have the cable :P
[07:55] <Frederick> folks isn't kvim avaliable in the repos?
[07:55] <Kiongku> tk: mine is a sucky modem =))
[07:55] <tk> ohhh build essentials, I need to dl that again :P
[07:56] <Kiongku> tk: lol
[07:56] <tk> just reinstalled to 64bit again...
[07:56] <tk> hoping I can get flash working this time
[07:56] <pussfeller> I have found that local telephone companies that are independent have the best service, so far
[07:56] <pablo7> waspius_  Okay so X is started and you're running fvwm. It's been awhile since I've run it, but I remember that it is one of the most configurable window managers out there.
[07:57] <pussfeller> in terms of speed and whatnot
[07:57] <abattoir> !info kvim
[07:57] <ubotu> Package kvim does not exist in dapper
[07:57] <Kiongku> 1297 packages installed..
[07:57] <tk> pussfeller: not mine back home... they want 65/month for DSL......
[07:57] <abattoir> Frederick: ^^^ apparently not...
[07:57] <tk> and they dont even know what they are doing half the time
[07:57] <Frederick> nor gvim?
[07:57] <Hawkwind> !info gvim
[07:57] <ubotu> Package gvim does not exist in dapper
[07:57] <Hawkwind> !info gvim edgy
[07:57] <ubotu> Package gvim does not exist in edgy
[07:57] <Kiongku> mine is national isp provider
[07:57] <Frederick> =/
[07:57] <Kiongku> so damn small country..
[07:57] <pussfeller> im payin 83 for local phone and dsl, which is high, but OTOH they have great news server and i get like 1000KB+ dls
[07:58] <abattoir> hello Hawkwind :)
[07:58] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Hey there.  How are ya ?
[07:58] <tk> hmm interesting, even with the latest amarok...... mp3s dont want to play
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> i pay that much for DSL + phone
[07:58] <abattoir> Hawkwind: fine... :) you?
[07:58] <Jucato> tk: huh?
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> i get about 3 to 6.0 mb/s
[07:58] <Kiongku> tk: u forgot to install the xine_extracodecs
[07:58] <abattoir> tk: latest meaning?
[07:58] <pussfeller> tk, it might be better just to use the amarok-svn script
[07:58] <tk> abattoir: latest, from the amarok repo
[07:59] <Jucato> even the latest amarok, without libxine-extracodecs, won't play MP3's
[07:59] <pussfeller> instead of a package, they add stuff all the time
[07:59] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Doing well.  Just relaxing, watching a bit of tv
[07:59] <abattoir> tk: 1.4.1 ?
[07:59] <Kiongku> tk: u forgot the xine codecs
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, not true
[07:59] <abattoir> Hawkwind: aah... me too ;)
[07:59] <tk> i think i forgot the extracodecs :P
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm playing an mp3 atm
[07:59] <pablo7> waspius_  You probably will need to do a bit of mouse clicking and menu selecting to figure it out, but let me know if you have any questions.
[07:59] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: without libxine-extracodecs?
[07:59] <Kiongku> Admiral_Chicago: well mine play too.. but i got the extracodecs too :p
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> oh no i got it
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> i thought you meant play mp3s at all
 even the latest amarok, without libxine-extracodecs, won't play MP3's <--- here's what I said
[08:00] <Admiral_Chicago> ah well I don't read well
[08:00] <Jucato> maybe I should rephrase that to: any Amarok version, even the latest, will not play MP3's, without libxine-extracodecs
[08:00] <Kiongku> Admiral_Chicago: hehe
[08:00] <Kiongku> Jucato: enough.. :D
[08:01] <tk> Kiongku: good call, I always forget something :P
[08:01] <Kiongku> tk: heh
[08:01] <tk> now if only I can find a working repo for fuse/ntfs-3g... ill be happy
[08:01] <Kiongku> tk: the only things i forget are the devs files.. and then i just bump into errors XD
[08:02] <tk> !ntfs-3g
[08:02] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[08:02] <tk> maybe that link has one that works
[08:02] <Kiongku> tk: lol.. i rather stay on safe side.. ntfs-3g still better.. and that one can surely corrupt the hdd
[08:02] <tk> Kiongku: ntfs-3g is what I use... I just dont want to install by hand if theres a deb :P
[08:03] <pussfeller> so there is no solution to the flash/sound problems?
[08:03] <Kiongku> tk: lol.. well.. i have some nice stuff i wanna keep in my ntfs .. i'll leave it for my windows to play with :)
[08:03] <Jucato> #ubuntu-classroom Classes are about to start :-D
[08:03] <tk> Kiongku: I've xfered over a gig of data and no failures or corruptions using ntfs-3g
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> pussfeller, ask adobe
[08:03] <Kiongku> tk: nice
[08:04] <abattoir> !classroom
[08:04] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> they won't release a new verison for linux
[08:04] <Hawkwind> Jucato: What's the topic today ?
[08:04] <Kiongku> Oh well.. time to hit the compilers again.. xine not reading the flacs
[08:04] <Jucato> Hawkwind: CLI
[08:04] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Ah
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> when is the class
[08:05] <Jucato> now
[08:05] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: In about 5 minutes
[08:05] <tk> Kiongku: use this...
[08:05] <Hawkwind> Or now
[08:05] <Jucato> starting
[08:05] <Hawkwind> Heh
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> #ubuntu-classroom?
[08:05] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: Yes
[08:05] <Kiongku> tk: ?
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> topic?
[08:05] <Jucato> yep
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> CLI?
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> wtf is that
[08:05] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: Hence what the bot stated above
[08:05] <tk>  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main
[08:05] <Jucato> Command Line basics
[08:05] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: Command Line Interface
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> Ah okay, cool
[08:05] <tk> Kiongku: thats a repo with the latest amarok... the flac bug is fixed in it ;)
[08:06] <Admiral_Chicago> I need to brush up on the command line anyways
[08:06] <Kiongku> tk: doh i just installed 1.4.2 :( after going through hell to compile it
[08:06] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone know when Gaim is going to come out of Beta
[08:06] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm on 2.0 beta 3 but I want the latest stable
[08:06] <tk> well that repo says its 1.4.0... but it plays flc
[08:06] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: After the first of the year
[08:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Hawkwind, no way!
[08:07] <tk> my amarok reports 1.4.0 rather
[08:07] <Admiral_Chicago> that is so long from now
[08:07] <Toran> hey guys, is there a way to get icons on my desktop with no text beneath them?
[08:07] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: 2.0 beta 3 is very stable.  I've been using it for a long time now without any issues
[08:07] <Admiral_Chicago> yea but there are a few GUI issues that need fixes
[08:07] <pussfeller> what about voice and video
[08:07] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: Such as ?
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> in the away message, the big space before you can see your options
[08:08] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: Ummm, use the scroll down option and that space goes away
[08:08] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: Having that space does *not* make the app unstable
[08:08] <abattoir> Toran: try blanking the title...
[08:09] <Toran> It gets mad at you about filename
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> Hawkwind, no i didn't say it was unstable
[08:09] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: Well, you said you wanted the latest stable.  Beta 3 happens to be very stable
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> i just wanted to know when 2.0 came out, i should have left out the stable part i suppose
[08:09] <Hawkwind> Heh
[08:10] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: Yeah 2.0 final isn't due out til after the first of the year according to Sean
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> dang, oh well, Its still better than AIM
[08:19] <Kiongku> !amarok
[08:19] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[08:22] <Kiongku> darn.. adept refuses to let me install the xine engine wihtout the default amarok
[08:24] <jillc> hello
[08:25] <Kiongku> jillc: hi
[08:25] <jillc> hi Kiongku
[08:26] <jillc> what is the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu (i'm just learning this so please be layman)
[08:27] <waspius> kubuntu used kde as default whereas ubuntu gnome
[08:27] <grothesk> jillc: It's just the Desktop.
[08:27] <grothesk> Ubuntu uses gnome as default, kubuntu uses kde.
[08:27] <waspius> so basically kubuntu is the same as ubuntu but with kde
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> Bingo A+!
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> :)
[08:27] <grothesk> But you may add the other one very easily
[08:28] <jillc> so gnome and kde are desktop images
[08:28] <waspius> :)
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> 'desktop enviroments'
[08:28] <jujimufu> jillc: desktop managers, yeah :)
[08:28] <jillc> which is better?
[08:28] <jillc> or are they made for different things?
[08:28] <ccc_> jillc: try both and see which you like better
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> http://www.plig.net/xwinman/
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> read all about the diffrent window managers
[08:29] <ccc_> jillc: not really
[08:29] <grothesk> kde tends more to windows, gnome more to OS X-Style. *duck*
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> None is better.
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> kde makes windows seem like garbate.
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> gnome makes OS-X seem good. :)
[08:29] <jillc> how about apples OP and <k>ubuntos.. are they similar
[08:30] <jujimufu> Dr_Willis: lol :)
[08:30] <jillc> OS. oops
[08:30] <matrix> i realy turn nuts here. amarok refuses to play mp3s. I have set engine to xine. installed all libs I could find related to this and even with xine itself i am able to play them.
[08:30] <jujimufu> matrix: are you sure you have your speakers on?
[08:30] <matrix> jujimufu: yes as xine just played the mp3 and i was listening to flacs with amarok
[08:31] <jujimufu> matrix: so, you've played mp3 files before?
[08:31] <matrix> jujimufu: not with amarok. i played flacs before with amarok
[08:32] <jujimufu> matrix: so, amarok won't play?
[08:32] <tk> jujimufu: you have the xine-extracodecs installed?
[08:32] <matrix> tk: yes they are installed
[08:32] <tk> what version of amarok?
[08:32] <matrix> 1.3.9
[08:32] <jujimufu> my amarok just played mp3s after I installed all the codecs via EasyUbuntu. I just, clicked and played them.
[08:33] <tk> try updating... -> thats a repo with amarok in it ---.>  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main
[08:33] <tk> brb
[08:33] <ccc_> jillc: well you can configure it just the way you like it. kde is generally more configurable compared to gnome
[08:33] <Kiongku> bleh
[08:34] <Kiongku> can i install a newer xine lib even if the older one is still detected?
[08:34] <jillc> i just looked at that website.. i like the kde screenshots better
[08:34] <jillc> it 'really' does look like windows
[08:36] <tk> back
[08:37] <tk> woooo! got ntfs-3g working on boot now :D
[08:37] <Kiongku> tk: good job :p
[08:38] <tk> too bad I still have to unplug my bluetooth before it will recognize any of my devices though :(
[08:38] <Kiongku> tk: lol
[08:38] <rikioh> can someone help me im in windows right now but everytime i try to go into kubuntu now right after i log out the screen goes white and theres like a hampster running around a spinning wheel, after that it goes to my desktop with no toolbars some odd green background and i cant do anything
[08:38] <rikioh> log in*
[08:38] <Hawkwind> That's Xfce
[08:39] <rikioh> whats that
[08:39] <Jucato> I just love that splash screen!
[08:39] <Hawkwind> It's a window manager
[08:39] <Hawkwind> rikioh: Do you boot to a graphical login screen ?
[08:39] <Jucato> err.. Desktop Environment...
[08:39] <rikioh> yes hawkwing
[08:39] <rikioh> wind
[08:40] <Hawkwind> rikioh: Then before you login, go to Session and choose KDE.  Then login just like normal and it will put you into KDE
[08:40] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Xfce is a window manager.  Gnome and KDE are desktop environments
[08:40] <rikioh> ok ty
[08:40] <rikioh> i just didnt know what was going on :)
[08:40] <rikioh> i was like whats this hampster.....
[08:41] <Jucato> Hawkwind: Xfce is a Desktop Environment, Xfwm is it's window manager. http://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=overview&lang=en
[08:41] <Kiongku> i cant talk on ubuntu-classroom
[08:41] <Jucato> Kiongku: you sure can't
[08:41] <Jucato> it's moderated
[08:41] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: You're not supposed to
[08:42] <Kiongku> Jucato: =(? and how can u o0
[08:42] <Jucato> only moderators/ops/voiced people can talk
[08:42] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: When they are giving a class, they don't want people interupting it
[08:42] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: doh..i'll just let it go by
[08:42] <Jucato> Kiongku: you can't. addresss all questions to nalioth by typing '/msg nalioth <message_or_question>'
[08:42] <Kiongku> Jucato: ah lol
[08:43] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: i can find lib-xine in kubuntu o0?
[08:43] <Kiongku> *cant
[08:43] <Jucato> !info libxine
[08:43] <ubotu> Package libxine does not exist in dapper
[08:43] <Jucato> hmm
[08:43] <Jucato> !info xine-lib
[08:43] <ubotu> Package xine-lib does not exist in dapper
[08:44] <Kiongku> !info lib-xine
[08:44] <ubotu> Package lib-xine does not exist in dapper
[08:44] <Kiongku> bleh
[08:44] <Jucato> !info libxine1c2
[08:44] <ubotu> libxine1c2: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 114 kB, installed size 260 kB
[08:44] <Jucato> !info libxine-main
[08:44] <ubotu> Package libxine-main does not exist in dapper
[08:44] <Jucato> !info libxine-main1
[08:44] <ubotu> libxine-main1: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu2-7.2 (dapper), package size 2865 kB, installed size 6632 kB
[08:45] <Kiongku> hmm
[08:45] <Jucato> so it's libxine1c2 or libxine-main1 ??
[08:47] <Kiongku> libxine-main1 i guess but cant remove without deleting the others
[08:47] <jillc> thank you all for explaining the difference.
[08:48] <tk> of course after telling whats his name that repo... I found out I was mising the latest repo :P
[08:48] <TheGateKeeper> I am presently running a livecd, would like the info you get in fstab of the hard disk, anyone know a cli command to do that?
[08:48] <tk> cat /etc/fstab ?
[08:49] <Mick7> hello men
[08:49] <Jucato> err.. that would display the Live CD's fstab..
[08:49] <tk> doesnt the live cd mount the HD though?
[08:49] <tk> nm, it probably wouldnt be in the fstab though...
[08:50] <Jucato> it would probably be in /media/harddisk_mountpoint/etc/fstab
[08:51] <Mick7> I've tried some linux distributions and I always had some problem with my ATI radeon 9200 SE, after the load of live cd the screen remain black and don't happen nothing HELP
[08:53] <tk> !flash
[08:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:53] <tk> hmmm
[08:53] <tk> isnt there a trigger for the 32bit flash in 64bit environment?
[08:54] <TheGateKeeper> the only fstab is in /etc and tells me the swap is /dev/hda2, probable means I want to mount /dev/hda1
[08:54] <jujimufu> TheGateKeeper: lol
[08:56] <TheGateKeeper> what's the command that tells you where you are?
[08:56] <orient2000> Hi! Is there any answering mashine for kubuntu I could use?
[08:56] <Phreakys> hi there
[08:56] <Phreakys> anyone experience installing compiz on kde kubuntu?
[08:57] <jujimufu> !xgl
[08:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:57] <jujimufu> there :)
[08:58] <jujimufu> you're welcome :D
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> dang it - is there a little recorder app - so i can test my mic in.
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> :P not sure what jack/mixer settings i need to use for it and skype
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> !skype
[09:00] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[09:00] <ninHer_> bye the way....anyone using openwengo ?
[09:01] <orient2000> Hi! Is there any answering machine I could use on KDE Kubuntu?
[09:01] <waspius> is the window manager different than the desktop?
[09:01] <Jucato> waspius: in KDE's, GNOME's, and Xfce's cases, yes.
[09:01] <TheGateKeeper> how do you mount your hard disk if you are running from a CD??
[09:02] <Phreakys> tnx
[09:02] <Phreakys> will try
[09:02] <TheGateKeeper> how do you mount your hard disk if you are running from a LiveCD??  (I should have said)
[09:04] <fabian_> Hey. I've got a secondary HDD which I just formated with QTParted and is now XFS. I've changed FSTAB to resemble the change in File System but it still comes up as a VFAT partition when I 'sudo fdisk -l'... Any ideas why?
[09:06] <waspius> i want to install a window manager that is not as heavy as kde and gnome but that i can add panels etc
[09:06] <jujimufu> xfce
[09:06] <jujimufu> !xfce
[09:06] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:07] <jujimufu> !gnome > jujimufu
[09:07] <fabian_> Try XFCE
[09:07] <jujimufu> fabain: also a nice combination is openbox wiith kdesktop and fbpanel :)
[09:08] <utab> keyboard locks in KDE
[09:08] <jujimufu> utab: what do you mean it locks?
[09:08] <utab> any ideas
[09:09] <utab> jujimufu I can not type anything
[09:09] <fabian_> jujimufu: I'm kinda new to linux, but Openbox looks really nice. :) Haven't been able to try it though
[09:10] <utab> jujimufu I am on Gnome now
[09:10] <D4rkly> does anyone know how i can add quicktime support to kaffeine ??
[09:11] <Jucato> D4rkly: you would need to install the w32codecs
[09:11] <jujimufu> D4rkly: try downloading the codecs package from EasyUbuntu
[09:11] <jujimufu> !Easyubuntu
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Easyubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <jujimufu> !easyubuntu
[09:11] <Jucato> !w32codecs
[09:11] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[09:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:11] <tk> !java
[09:11] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:11] <jujimufu> utab: I didn't aks you what you're with now, I asked you what do you mean ti locks...
[09:12] <D4rkly> !mov
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mov - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <fabian_> darkly
[09:12] <fabian_> head over to http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[09:12] <utab> jujimufu I can not type, BTW you are so gentle
[09:12] <D4rkly> !quicktime
[09:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:12] <__mikem> Hey, I have a question, I am trying to get xgl working, but all the instructions I find talk about nvidia or ati, the problem is I am using vmware, and consequentially, the video device ubuntu sees is neither ati or nvidia, therefore I need help setting this up
[09:12] <fabian_> that'll show you how to install all codecs (except wmv)
[09:12] <D4rkly> ok cool :)
[09:12] <jujimufu> utab: I can be gentle if I want to, but you also have to cooperate and give proper information so that we can answer adequately. Thank you :)
[09:13] <fabian_> Hey. I've got a secondary HDD which I just formated with QTParted and is now XFS. I've changed FSTAB to resemble the change in File System but it still comes up as a VFAT partition when I 'sudo fdisk -l'... Any ideas why? --> No ideas, right?
[09:13] <utab> jujimufu , so
[09:13] <Blissex> fabian_: you need to read a bit more about the difference between a filesystem and the partition containing it :-)
[09:14] <__mikem> I hate repeating myself, but aparently thats the only option I have here. Hey, I have a question, I am trying to get xgl working, but all the instructions I find talk about nvidia or ati, the problem is I am using vmware, and consequentially, the video device ubuntu sees is neither ati or nvidia, therefore I need help setting this up
[09:14] <LeeJunFan> fabian_: are you sure you formatted? not just partitioned as xfs?
[09:14] <Blissex> __mikem: thats mad, give up.
[09:14] <D4rkly> do gstreamer codecs work for kaffeine ?
[09:14] <jujimufu> utab: wait wait
[09:15] <Blissex> __mikem: there is a very, very good reason why the instructions mention fast cards with 3D accel.
[09:15] <__mikem> Is there any way to get xgl to work with vmware?
[09:15] <fabian_> LeeJunFan that's probably it. :-$ How can I format it? In QTParted, it shows upas XFS, but I'm unable to actually format it
[09:15] <LeeJunFan> __mikem: no.
[09:15] <__mikem> that sucks
[09:16] <LeeJunFan> fabian_: mkfs.xfs /dev/hdb1 perhaps? depending on whether hdb1 is the correct drive/partition
[09:17] <fabian_> LeeJunFan: Thanks, I'm gonna try that out right now and see what happens
[09:18] <fabian_> LeeJunFan: It seems to have worked, but it's done it extremly quickly... Maybe it's only partitioned it again?
[09:19] <LeeJunFan> fabian_: no, mkfs doesn't partition.
[09:19] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:19] <LeeJunFan> fabian_: try mounting it now.
[09:19] <fabian_> LeeJunFan: Well, when I sudo fdisk -l, it still shows up as FAT
[09:19] <LeeJunFan> fabian_: sounds like qtparted didn't do it's job.
[09:20] <fabian_> LeeJunFan: I'm typing "sudo mkfs.xfs /dev/hdd1 -f" in the cosole
[09:21] <jujimufu> utab: check this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=235405&highlight=kde+lock
[09:21] <jujimufu> utab: and generally, check the forums
[09:21] <D4rkly> does anyone know how i can install the w32codecs ?? tried sudo apt-get install w32codecs but it didnt work ?
[09:22] <jujimufu> D4rkly: download easyubuntu, and check to install the codecs from there. It's the fastest and easiet way. Plus, it installs all codecs alltogether, so you'll most probably never need to download any codecs again
[09:22] <jujimufu> !easyubuntu > D4rkly
[09:22] <utab> jujimufu , before this I have sent there but got no replies
[09:22] <LeeJunFan> fabian_: problem is that if it's not marked as an xfs partition type you're going to have trouble. you need to use fdisk and change the partition type, then mkfs.xfs it again.
[09:24] <fabian_> LeeJunFan: Ah, OK. So I have to partition with Fdisk, then format with Mkfs.xfs
[09:25] <LeeJunFan> fabian_: yeah, according to fdisk -l qtparted didn't change your partition type to xfs.
[09:25] <Kiongku> !amarok
[09:25] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[09:25] <Kiongku> !kaffeine
[09:25] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1.3ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 1528 kB, installed size 3748 kB
[09:26] <fabian_> LeeJunFan: Ok, now I get it. :) Thanks, I'll look into it.
[09:26] <utab> KDE locks keyboard I can type but mouse is OK I can click and select, what might be the problem
[09:27] <utab> I can NOT type
[09:28] <fritsch> utab: usb keyboard?
[09:28] <fritsch> utab: if yes { plug out(); plugin()} else {reboot()}
[09:28] <utab> fritsch both the usb and the built in one
[09:29] <fritsch> utab: plug out the usb one, and plug in
[09:29] <utab> fritsch now I use the built in
[09:29] <fritsch> utab: does this always happen?
[09:29] <fritsch> utab: this one is working?
[09:29] <fritsch> utab: just replug the external usb one
[09:29] <utab> fritsch actually I am typing on Gnome ;)
[09:29] <fritsch> utab: mmmh
[09:30] <utab> fritsch dell laptop
[09:30] <fritsch> utab: sorry, don`t know a kde specific keyboard issue
[09:30] <Kiongku> !koffice
[09:30] <ubotu> Integrated office suite for KDE, including word processing, spreadsheet, flow charting, image manipulation. For more info see: http://koffice.kde.org. Upgraded Kubu packs at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-151.php
[09:30] <utab> fritsch thx
[09:31] <Chris7mas> !nano
[09:31] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[09:32] <Chris7mas> !code
[09:32] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs; KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello; GNOME: gvim, gedit, eclipse, pida
[09:32] <Chris7mas> !html
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[09:32] <OxMoZ|mang> bonjour
[09:32] <Chris7mas> hi
[09:32] <OxMoZ> qq1 veut bien m'aider jarrive pas a me connect a internet j'ai une livebox connect wifi par usb
[09:33] <Freddy2> hi
[09:36] <brnn> Hello. I want to ask a simple question. I have Kubuntu 6.06. I  want to  change keyboard layouts using only two keys.
[09:37] <brnn> but I can't
[09:37] <brnn> because It only allows me 4 key combinations
[09:37] <brnn> How can I make it use two keys only?????
[09:38] <brnn> Will anyone answer ???????????
[09:40] <Blissex> brnn: you cannot use _any_ keys. You can do it with 2, for example if you do something like CTRL+something
[09:40] <osiris> anyone having issues with ctrl+alt+f key terminals not working ?
[09:41] <solus_> my monitor worked fine on high res the last 2 weeks, i turned it on today and it was 640x480 and wont change, and i didnt do anything with the settings of the monitor at all yesterday other than change my backgrund image and screensaver, anyone have any clue about this problem?
[09:41] <Blissex> solus_: look at the contents of '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[09:42] <brnn> YES, blissex
[09:42] <brnn> I try
[09:42] <brnn> ctrl + shift
[09:42] <brnn> or
[09:42] <crazy_penguin> Good evening all!
[09:42] <brnn> ctrl + alt
[09:42] <solus_> Blissex:  i should also mention that i just started using this 2 weeks ago, lol...  i just search for that?
[09:42] <Blissex> brnn: you cannot just use modifiers.
[09:42] <brnn> but it always wants two more keys
[09:43] <solus_> Blissex: ok, its open, what should it look like?
[09:44] <Blissex> solus_: look through it and it should say why the X server chose 640x480...
[09:44] <solus_> ok, thanks
[09:46] <solus_> Blissex: ok, odd, it does recognize the chipset as g force 4
[09:46] <solus_> and the drivers are there, so it knows it should do better
[09:47] <Blissex> solus_: look at the lines about modes...
[09:47] <Blissex> solus_: and about the monitor. The card is almost irrelevant.
[09:48] <solus_> ok, ill copy exactly what it says about the monitor, only 2 likes were found when i searched the doc
[09:48] <solus_> (II) NV(0): Generic Monitor: Using default hsync range of 28.00-33.00 kHz
[09:48] <solus_> II) NV(0): Generic Monitor: Using default vrefresh range of 43.00-72.00 Hz
[09:50] <Blissex> solus_: then obviously it is not a generic monitor. You need to redefine the monitor to inform the X server of its true horizontal and vertical scan rates.
[09:50] <Blissex> solus_: probably you have changed connection or something else and it can no longer read them via EDID/DDC.
[09:50] <solus_> its a laptop, i wouldnt even know how to change the connection on it
[09:51] <solus_> but as long as i know the basic prob, i can check docs, thanks so much
[09:53] <Blissex> solus_: ahhhhhh, is that for the _internal_ screen?
[09:55] <robert_> blah
[09:55] <robert_> I've got kde+gnome, and kubuntu won't progress beyond starting the kernel event manger- wtf
[09:57] <solus_> Blissex: yes, it is an internal
[09:58] <solus_> im trying to chat with the hp rep to see the exact make and model of the monitor now, but no one has been available for hours
[09:58] <Blissex> solus_: then it is strange it worked before but not now. Also check the size in pixels, if it is a bit odd you usually need a special modeline.
[09:58] <solus_> and when i tried ot change it manually to the settings i had before, it told me that my monitor didnt support it, which, it did yesterday, lol
[09:58] <solus_> ok, how does one do that?
[09:58] <Blissex> solus_: to find out type/make just look at the label on the laptop get the model number and do a web search.
[09:59] <solus_> sorry to be a pain, but i have a good memory and will only ever have to ask once
[09:59] <Blissex> solus_: do a nice web search, and I think it is also on the ubuntu Wiki.
[09:59] <solus_> i have the model number, but it isnt giving more than the graphics card/audio and that bs, which is all still ok and recognized
[10:00] <solus_> thats the thing i truly hate about hp, they make it hell for you to find out about their products and fix them yourself
[10:00] <Kiongku> oh darn the kubuntu system for saving amarok ><...
[10:00] <Jucato> huh?
[10:00] <Kiongku> cant compile new amarok..
[10:01] <Jucato> oh
[10:01] <Kiongku> i downgrading back to amarok 1.4.1 of kubuntu
[10:01] <Blissex> solus_: there is something about laptop screen config here: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[10:01] <Jucato> ehehe! what you were looking for in Amarok is already in 1.4.1 anyway
[10:01] <Kiongku> its too much hazzle to get xine engine in the new one bcoz the main libxine in kubuntu cannot be replaced.
[10:01] <Kiongku> if i try raplace it.. kaffeine and Kmplayer goes away too
[10:02] <Kiongku> Jucato: go read the changelog for 1.4.2
[10:02] <Kiongku> quite a few nice features to be tested :D
[10:02] <Blissex> solus_: in particular http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#HP_zt3000_.2F_Compaq_nx7000
[10:02] <Jucato> Kiongku: hehe! keyword "tested"
[10:02] <Jucato> there are only so few things that I dare experiment with. Multimedia is not one of them... yet :-D
[10:03] <Kiongku> Jucato: hehe.. :( and u know the hell i passed through to compile it.. now i dunno what to do with the devs files >>.. i think i'll keep it in case
[10:04] <Jucato> I thought you said "no I dunno what to do with the devs" (developers)
[10:04] <Kiongku> Jucato: XDD.. i know what to do.. i'll close them in a room till they get the kubuntu 1.4.2 out :p
[10:04] <Jucato> lol
[10:05] <Kiongku> O.O
[10:05] <zaq> hello
[10:05] <zaq> is this a help channel?
[10:05] <Kiongku> zaq: might be
[10:05] <zaq> ok
[10:05] <Kiongku> zaq: if the prob can be solved by us :p
[10:05] <Jucato> Kiongku: might be? it is! ^_^
[10:05] <ZaQ> I am new to Ubuntu
[10:06] <ZaQ> just installed it
[10:06] <Jucato> Kubuntu help channel
[10:06] <ZaQ> and i dont know how to install programs that I downloaded from the web
[10:06] <Jucato> ZaQ: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[10:06] <ZaQ> Unbuntu I beleive
[10:06] <Kiongku> ZaQ: yap its kubuntu here.. if u need help for ubuntu go to ubuntu
[10:06] <ZaQ> hmm
[10:06] <Jucato> ZaQ: is your desktop brown?
[10:06] <ZaQ> what is the difference between the two?
[10:06] <Kiongku> ZaQ: or blue :p
[10:06] <ZaQ> yes
[10:06] <ZaQ> brown
[10:06] <Freddy2> xD
[10:06] <Kiongku> ZaQ: they use different desktop environment
[10:06] <Jucato> ZaQ: then you're using Ubuntu
[10:07] <ZaQ> ok
[10:07] <Jucato> #ubuntu might be the best place to be :-D
[10:07] <ZaQ> what is the difference?
[10:07] <Kiongku> ZaQ: ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses kde
[10:07] <ZaQ> haha
[10:07] <Jucato> Ubuntu uses GNOME, while Kubuntu uses KDE
[10:07] <ZaQ> ok
[10:07] <ZaQ> what does that mean? lol
[10:07] <Kiongku> ZaQ: the way we customise our linux =P
[10:07] <Jucato> GNOME and KDE are what we call desktop environments
[10:07] <Jucato> lol
[10:07] <Kiongku> Jucato: XD he went away
[10:08] <Jucato> T_T
[10:08] <Jucato> oh there he is
[10:08] <zaq> k
[10:08] <zaq> sorry
[10:08] <Kiongku> lol.. dunt be sad
[10:08] <Jucato> ehehe
[10:08] <Kiongku> lol?
[10:08] <Kiongku> Jucato was crying right now :p
[10:08] <Jucato> whoa
[10:08] <Freddy2> gnome seems to be easier for default config, but i think you can get better results with kde, if you configure it properly.. you'll need time and practice with it in order to get its best
[10:08] <Kiongku> no worry
[10:08] <Kiongku> he went to the correct channel
[10:09] <Jucato> Kiongku: how did you know? you're on #ubuntu too?
[10:09] <Kiongku>  /whois zaq
[10:09] <Jucato> oh
[10:09] <Jucato> I thought you were sleeping with the enemy
[10:09] <Jucato> j/k
[10:09] <Kiongku> Freddy2: dunt give a damn to gnome.. after kubuntu i'll move to gentoo.. if i ever change :p
[10:09] <Freddy2> hmm he was out? fuck XD
[10:09] <Kiongku> Jucato: loL?
[10:10] <Jucato> ehehe
[10:10] <Riddell> Freddy2: language
[10:10] <jillc> can you have Windows xp and Kubuntu on the same computer?  and can Kubuntu run everything windows runs
[10:10] <Jucato> lol? like an uncertain laugh... ^_^
[10:10] <Freddy2> i'm spanish
[10:10] <Jucato> Freddy2: he meant, watch your language...
[10:10] <Freddy2> wasn't trying to be so "hard"
[10:10] <Kiongku> jillc: nah.. kubuntu cant run all that windows run by default
[10:10] <Kiongku> jillc: and ya u can dual boot
[10:10] <Freddy2> i'm not very good with english, sorrry
[10:10] <OOD> jillc: you can have both on the same computer, and chose to boot either one or the other
[10:11] <Jucato> Freddy2: no, just the F* word...
[10:11] <Kiongku> jillc: got both xp and kubuntu
[10:11] <Freddy2> i know
[10:11] <Jucato> ^_^
[10:11] <Jucato> Kiongku: I've got Kubuntu, XP, and another partition for anything else I might fancy
[10:11] <jillc> which is easier to setup  ubuntu or kubuntu?
[10:11] <Jucato> initial setup? I'd say both
[10:11] <Kiongku> Jucato: fancy gentoo and let me know the results ;)
[10:12] <Hawkwind> jillc: Both the same
[10:12] <Kiongku> jillc: does not matter
[10:12] <Jucato> lol! not Gentoo, not yet...
[10:12] <Kiongku> Jucato: hehe
[10:12] <Jucato> I'll probably try out Arch and Ark one of these days
[10:12] <Kiongku> :D
[10:12] <Jucato> hmph
[10:12] <Kiongku> oh ?
[10:12] <Jucato> yeah, but we're getting out of topic (again)
[10:13] <Kiongku> Jucato: did he needed further help?.. bcoz he stopped asking question
[10:13] <solus_> Blissex: thanks, the monitor is fine again, it was a paint but i found the wiki on a laptop somewhat like mine, lol
[10:13] <Jucato> I dunno.
[10:13] <Blissex> solus_: best way...
[10:13] <Kiongku> bah
[10:13] <MrBallZ> Question:  Why the automount doesn't mount external hdd's that are in NTFS ?
[10:14] <MrBallZ> in kubuntu 6.06 dapper
[10:14] <Blissex> !ntfs
[10:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[10:14] <Kiongku> question solved
[10:14] <MrBallZ> htnx
[10:14] <solus_> Blissex: im just wary at the moment because ive killed my sude twice, etc...  im not catching onto this linux thing very well, if i cant find my exact problem i ask, i guess i had better just get used to it and keep good backups for awhile
[10:15] <solus_> but i do like it much more than windows, even with the problems
[10:15] <Kiongku> MrBallZ: btw u can only read from ntfs
[10:15] <Blissex> solus_: good. You gotta read more. Linux require most sysadm skills but then it is more logical and flexible. Precisely because it gets you to learn those skills...
[10:15] <Jucato> well, if he can't mount it, he wouldn't even be able to read from it :-D
[10:15] <Kiongku> :p
[10:15] <Kiongku> Jucato: hahah
[10:16] <Kiongku> well i can also follow that.. but i have nothign to gain from mounting it
[10:16] <Jucato> Blissex: probably not sysadm skills, but it does require learning a bit more than what you know from Windows (which is almost nothing)
[10:17] <Kiongku> Blissex: i rather say u need to learn to use the terminal more :p
[10:17] <solus_> haha, reading helps to a degree but a lot of even the wiki on ubuntus site assumes you know something about linux, which i didnt other than by repuation...  i did find a good site to walk me through the basic things, like learning exactly what sudo was and how to use it, but anything more comlicated than installing a program isnt in there
[10:17] <Kiongku> in windows rarely touch that cmd
[10:17] <Kiongku> solus_: u started better than me.. i learned from forums and trial and error
[10:18] <Jucato> Kiongku: that really depends on the distro. there are some distros out there that are more CLI oriented, while there are a lot that are more GUI oriented. Ubuntu/Kubuntu is a happy mixture of both
[10:18] <solus_> trial and error i did with suse which was the bane of my existance for about 5 days, then i switched to kubuntu, and i have everything the way i want it now...
[10:18] <Kiongku> lol happy mixture :p
[10:18] <solus_> so now, i have to learn terminal, i try to make about an hour a day to play around and learn things i dont realize ineed to know
[10:18] <Kiongku> solus_: good
[10:18] <Freddy2> (windows) modem problems are very common for people how try linux for the first time.. but when using dsl (or similar) routers is quite simple
[10:19] <Kiongku> i use usb modem.. the bane of the modems for linux
[10:19] <Jucato> not if the DSL/ADSL connection uses PPPoE
[10:19] <Kiongku> nope ppoa
[10:19] <Jucato> I think WiFi's are more of the bane
[10:19] <Kiongku> pppoa
[10:19] <Jucato> Kiongku: most DSL/ADSL ISP providers use PPPoE now more than PPPoA
[10:19] <Freddy2> indeed
[10:20] <Kiongku> Jucato: i come from a stone age country so i use pppoa :p
[10:20] <Jucato> and PPPoE, in the Debian world, has no GUI configuration tool
[10:20] <solus_> alright dinner is here, thanks so much for the help
[10:20] <Kiongku> pppoa got no GUI configuration tool too
[10:20] <Jucato> ok... then both PPPoE and PPPoA :-D
[10:20] <Kiongku> hehe
[10:21] <Jucato> Kiongku: which country would that be? China?
[10:21] <Freddy2> but all the times i've seen it (for dsl) pppoe was managed inside the router, with nat enabled, of course
[10:21] <Kiongku> China is very developed now.. dunt underestimate it :p
[10:21] <Kiongku> nah i'm from mauritius
[10:21] <Jucato> oh
[10:22] <Jucato> I was just presuming from the /whois :-D
[10:22] <Jucato> Freddy2: I had to use pppoeconf to setup my ADSL connection
[10:22] <Kiongku> dang ig only libxine was not so interlaced by kubuntu. i could have upgraded my xine lib without prob :(
[10:23] <Freddy2> Jucato: do you have a public IP directly in your machine with no nat? or you aren't using a router?
[10:23] <Kiongku> i use pon ueagle-atm .. and thats all XD
[10:23] <Jucato> Freddy2: ehehe! would you laugh at me if I told you that I did not understand those terms :-D
[10:24] <Freddy2> hmm you use modem or router?
[10:24] <Jucato> a modem, I think :-D
[10:24] <Jucato> a black box thingy
[10:24] <Freddy2> i see.. ok then
[10:24] <Jucato> btw, how would you know if you were using a modem or a router?
[10:25] <Jucato> oh krap... almost 4:30 am...
[10:25] <Freddy2> common routers have several rj45 connectors (usually 4), and you connnect to it over an ethernet link
[10:25] <Kiongku> !amarok
[10:25] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[10:25] <Freddy2> well, you can also take a look at your ip and also to your gateway
[10:26] <robert_> blah- (k)ubuntu won't progress past starting the kernel event manager - I had a power surge a short while ago, and now it won't start up :/
[10:26] <Jucato> Freddy2: basically, I have an ethernet card (integrated) which connects to a black box, which has 4 slots for what you called an rj45 connector
[10:27] <Heruka> Hi Big problems trying to pair mobile/bluetooth..many hours..no luck..any suggestions
[10:27] <Freddy2> and what about ip/gateway?
[10:27] <Jucato> err...
[10:27] <dr_willis> Heruka,  i  manually edited some pin file - ages ago for mine.
[10:27] <Freddy2> are you using something like 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x?
[10:27] <kevin_> how to setup the gtk2 applications' fonts in kubuntu?
[10:28] <Jucato> kevin_: System Settings > Appearance > GTK Styles and Fonts
[10:28] <Jucato> Freddy2: where should I check? (this is getting embarassing...)
[10:28] <Heruka> thanks Dr.Wilis.. will look at some of them
[10:28] <robert_> do note, that I recently installed/configured my system for use with ldap- if that makes any difference
[10:29] <Freddy2> try "sudo ifconfig", and take a look at ethX entries
[10:29] <kevin_> Jucato, I'll try it, thanks
[10:30] <Jucato> Freddy2: eth0? but nothing resembles and IP/gateway address
[10:30] <Freddy2> second line at eth0.. inet addr: x.x.x.x
[10:31] <Jucato> Freddy2: it's inet6 addr, then some hexadecimal figures
[10:31] <Freddy2> hmm are you connected to an ipv6 provider?
[10:31] <Jucato> I have eth0, lo, and ppp0
[10:31] <Jucato> I don't think so. I didn't really check with our ISP
[10:32] <Freddy2> well, so it seems that your router doesn't manage ppp, so probably we're talking about the ppp0 entry
[10:32] <Jucato> Freddy2: ok, there's inet addr, P-t-P, and Mask
[10:33] <ade> hi can anyone help me, i have just installed linux for the first time, how do i get a media player?? please help
[10:33] <Freddy2> my router for example manages pppoe, so i simply need a private ip for connecting with it, and that's all.. quite simple
[10:34] <Jucato> Freddy2: oh. my inet addr is 210.213.xxx.xxx
[10:34] <dr_willis> ade fire up the adept package manager and look at the stuff you can install, check for vlc, mplayer, xine,
[10:34] <ade> thanx will do
[10:34] <Kiongku> ade: kaffeine and amarok is good
[10:34] <Jucato> ade: you could also try the installed media players mentioned by Kiongku
[10:34] <dr_willis> depeneds on what 'media' you mean. :)
[10:34] <Freddy2> i see with a whois.. juan carlos torres? are you spanish?
[10:35] <Jucato> nope
[10:35] <Jucato> Filipino :-D
[10:35] <Freddy2> saludos xD
[10:35] <Jucato> @_@
[10:36] <Jucato> Freddy2: so I guess I'm using a modem, not a router, right?
[10:36] <Freddy2> i think you're using a router which doesn't manage ppp itself, so your machine has to do the job
[10:36] <Jucato> oh
[10:37] <Jucato> anyway, thanks for the info!
[10:37] <Freddy2> np
[10:37] <Jucato> gotta catch some snooze... even for just 2-3 hours...
[10:37] <Freddy2> cya
[10:37] <Jucato> bye!
[10:39] <ade> what internet security can i get hold of
[10:39] <dr_willis> ade Huh?
[10:40] <ade> firewall, antivirus that sort of thing, what is compatible
[10:40] <Freddy2> firewall (iptables, for example)
[10:41] <dr_willis> Its time to read a few guides on Linux Security I think. :P
[10:42] <Freddy2> sure
[10:42] <robert_> anybody?
[10:42] <robert_> help?
[10:43] <dr_willis> http://www.linuxsecurity.com/docs/colsfaq.html
[10:43] <Kiongku> doh... my amarok refuse to open now