[06:18] <nickgaw> what is talked about on the #ubuntuofftopic channel?
[06:18] <szal> nickgaw: everything and nothing..  and it's #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:19] <nickgaw> do you think someone would know there more about my accessibility question about how on the live disk to start speech?
[06:20] <szal> probably not at this time of day ;)
[06:23] <Babin> can i use windows exe files in ubuntu
[06:24] <szal> can't have been important ;)
[06:26] <parshotam> hy
[06:27] <parshotam> h r u?????
[06:29] <Metroshica> test
[06:29] <Metroshica> is the chat room really that dead right now?
[06:29] <Kull> test failed
[06:29] <Kull> test failed again
[06:33] <szal> kennethr_: any reason for double-join?
[06:35] <kennethr_> szal:what?
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[06:36] <szal> [07:31:02] --> kennethreitz has joined this channel (~kennethre@c-24-127-96-129.hsd1.va.comcast.net). <- that
[06:37] <kennethreitz> szal: sorry to offend
[06:39] <iToast> Asperger's syndrome rofl.
[06:40] <dannel> you mean assburgers?
[06:40] <szal> !language | dannel
[06:40] <hullo>  2.6.31-20-generic DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.10 DISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric is that the right kernel?
[06:40] <iToast> LOL
[06:40] <iToast> szal: Thats the name of it.
[06:41] <szal> hullo: that doesn't even look like a *buntu kernel
[06:41] <iToast> Lol
[06:41] <szal> hullo: Lucid has 2.6.32, everything older than that is out of support
[06:41] <hullo> i think there's something wrong with my grub
[06:42] <iToast> hullo: Damn thats old.
[06:42] <iToast> Get 3.0
[06:42] <iToast> Nah, I JK, wait for ubuntu 12.0
[06:42] <ssfdre38> quick question if i have another HDD with ubuntu install on it, can i still boot from that HDD to that os
[06:42] <szal> iToast: there is and will be no 12.0
[06:42] <iToast> Its 10.4 10.10 or 11.4 11.10
[06:42] <ssfdre38> it would be 12.04LTS
[06:42] <iToast> Stick to those for now... while we wait for 12.0
[06:43] <hullo> i think i have the kernel package installed but update-grub isnt working
[06:43] <szal> hullo: define 'isn't working'
[06:43] <hullo> isnt it supposed to make the newest kernel installed show up in the grub list?
[06:44] <hullo> how do i identify available kernels and then set it so i can set it in boot args?
[06:44] <fishcooker> how to upgrade from lucid to maverick on command line
[06:45] <fishcooker> i don't want any interactive
[06:45] <Blue1> fishcooker: it is better NOT to upgrade, but to backup /home/ and /etc/ and do a fresh install
[06:45] <fishcooker> why
[06:45] <fishcooker> blue1
[06:46] <fishcooker> is there any problem with grub
[06:46] <dannel> doing a fresh install every 6 months seems impractical
[06:46] <Blue1> fishcooker: because upgrades are problematic - things get broken -- like grub, or video
[06:46] <Blue1> dannel: yes, but less problems in the long run.
[06:46] <szal> hullo: the kernel install should do that automagically..  where did you get that kernel from?
[06:47] <Blue1> dannel: I have root (/) and /home/ on seperate partitions
[06:48] <fishcooker> how to override the grub problem
[06:48] <fishcooker> video problem omitted because im on cli
[06:48] <hullo> sza1 what should i run to fix this?
[06:48] <Blue1> fishcooker: what is the grub issue?  what version ?
[06:48] <szal> Blue1: to be precise, upgrades of *buntu tend do be problematic, no idea why they don't seem to get it right, like e.g. openSUSE ^^
[06:48] <szal> !tab | hullo
[06:48] <Blue1> szal: yes, why I suggested fresh install.
[06:48] <szal> hullo: you might first want to answer my question
[06:49] <dannel> Blue1, I prefer to break things and then fix them :D although recently I upgraded from 10.10>11.04>11.10 and was surprised how perfect it was after upgrade.. even graphics still worked
[06:49] <fishcooker> blue1, http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-10.04-lucid-lynx-to-10.10-maverick-meerkat-desktop-and-server
[06:49] <hullo> where is the kernel from? idk
[06:49] <Blue1> YMMV applies
[06:50] <szal> hullo: I'd suggest uninstalling it
[06:50] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/778329/
[06:50] <hullo> szal: my question this whole time is how
[06:51] <Blue1> old grub and new ubuntu = problems -- well problems any way you go, less problems with newer grub
[06:51] <hullo> apt-get install grub?
[06:51] <Blue1> hullo: depends on why you are doing that?  old one called grub new one grub2 iirc
[06:52] <szal> hullo: e.g. 'sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.31-20-generic'
[06:52] <hullo> grub (GNU GRUB 0.97)
[06:52] <LasNote> anyone know of a force gauge that would work at all with Ubuntu?
[06:52] <LasNote> it's not exactly something on the supported hardware list, heh
[06:52] <Blue1> force gauge? what is that?
[06:52] <szal> hullo: Grub1?  *buntu has been shipping Grub2 for 2.5 years now
[06:52] <hullo> theres the problem
[06:53] <hullo> i probably did that manually some time ago
[06:53] <fishcooker> how to override the grub problem when i do update from lucid to maverick
[06:53] <fishcooker> ?
[06:53] <fishcooker> if i do uninteractive update
[06:53] <szal> hullo: there's your problem then, Grub1 doesn't work w/ update-grub
[06:53] <fishcooker> many servers here
[06:53] <hullo> uninstalled grub2, replaced with grub thinking gthat was the package to use and grub (1) just dutifully did its job the best it could hahahah
[06:54] <hullo> thank you #ubuntu   Isn't it funny how stating a problem out loud can help you solve it?
[06:54] <makara> hi. DNS settings in /etc/resolv.conf are overwritten. Which conf must I add these to?
[06:55] <Blue1> hullo: this may/may not help -- and as always YMMV applies
[06:55] <hullo> yeah understood... i have a boot disc handy and a few other running pc's here
[06:56] <DeltaEpsilon> hi
[06:56] <DeltaEpsilon> when do I get the firefox 9 update form Ubuntu?
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[06:56] <Blue1> makara: stop
[06:56] <Prodego> ahhhh
[06:56] <Blue1> spamming
[06:56] <DeltaEpsilon> when do I get the firefox 9 update form Ubuntu?
[06:57] <Blue1> DeltaEpsilon: I had to get that from the mozilla site
[06:57] <szal> !paste | hullo
[06:58] <DeltaEpsilon> Blue1, how
[06:58] <Blue1> the guy with the /etc/resolv.conf problem -- see step 8:  http://pkill-9.com/making-ubuntudebian-linux-do-its-own-dns-domain-name-service/
[06:59] <Blue1> DeltaEpsilon: download the tar, and install the tar
[07:00] <robertzaccour> What parental control software would be good in Ubuntu? Something in the repos please. Thanks in advance.
[07:00] <szal> Blue1: please refrain from recommending unsupported ways of installing software
[07:00] <DeltaEpsilon> Blue1, will I get the update from ubuntu without upgrading my ubuntu?
[07:00] <szal> DeltaEpsilon: what *buntu version?
[07:00] <Blue1> DeltaEpsilon: affirm
[07:00] <DeltaEpsilon> 11.10
[07:00] <somsip_> DeltaEpsilon: the last FF upgrade took about 2 weeks form the first announcement to when it was in main repos
[07:00] <emartin> hi, i tried to get webgl working as per the instructions of this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10482298&postcount=4 , but the drivers messed up other things and now i'm rying to remove them with ppa-purge. ppa-purge wants me to remove all of this stuff: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/524372/ is this normal?
[07:00] <emartin> *trying
[07:00] <szal> DeltaEpsilon: wait for the update to appear
[07:00] <Blue1> you can't get it from ubuntu no
[07:00] <Blue1> you have to get from the site
[07:01] <somsip_> DeltaEpsilon: in the meantime you will need to manually upgrae (not recommended) or use a PPA (not particularly recommended)
[07:01] <vouth> DeltaEpsilon: there's a ppa
[07:01] <szal> Blue1: yes, you do..  FF5, 6, 7, and 8 also came by way of updates
[07:01] <DeltaEpsilon> vouth, url?
[07:01] <vouth> DeltaEpsilon: I uess that's not recommended though.
[07:01] <somsip_> !ppa
[07:01] <vouth> DeltaEpsilon, just a minute…
[07:01] <Blue1> szal: could be I am on 64 bit ubuntu 10.10 and that;'s what I had to do
[07:01] <DeltaEpsilon> vouth, for me ppa is good enough
[07:01] <szal> vouth: no need for a PPA on Oneiric
[07:02] <szal> vouth: just some time to wait
[07:02] <OvermindDL1> So, randomly, sometime not for 10 minutes, something not for 10 days, X seems to freeze, even caplock does not toggle the light, screen freezes solid, sound still plays, etc...  I can ssh in, but if I kill X the screen does not vanish, if I kill gdm the screen does not vanish, I have tried using unity (which is broken for some reason), unit2d, kde, xfce, all with the same issue, what should I be looking for and how
[07:02] <OvermindDL1> to go about doing it?
[07:02] <emartin> anyone see my post? getting all of this when trying to purge a ppa: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/524372/
[07:02] <vouth> DeltaEpsilon: http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu
[07:03] <Blue1> OvermindDL1: I am slowly migrating from ubuntu to debian -- do not like unity, but that is a personal thang
[07:03] <vouth> szal: hmm. I wouldn't know; I'm on 10.10 :-D
[07:03] <OvermindDL1> Blue1: I primarily use KDE, so no worry for me, just testing all sorts of window managers though
[07:03] <OvermindDL1> Blue1: All lock up randomly...
[07:04] <pAt__> Blue1 just use LMDE for that.
[07:04] <DeltaEpsilon> vouth, Oneiric is not in there
[07:04] <Blue1> OvermindDL1: roger that
[07:04] <szal> OvermindDL1: probably a KDE problem; I had that occasionally too (2 or 3 times, nothing to worry about imho)
[07:04] <szal> OvermindDL1: what KDE version, btw?
[07:04] <vouth> DeltaEpsilon: hmm, ok. sorry about that
[07:04] <OvermindDL1> szal: Except I have also tried unity2d and xfce too
[07:04] <vouth> DeltaEpsilon: it worked for me
[07:04] <Blue1> for some reason kde won't run on this system
[07:04] <Blue1> nor xfce
[07:04] <OvermindDL1> szal: 4.7, but as stated...
[07:04] <bodoh> guys .. what's the best app for Nikon RAW photo?
[07:05] <szal> OvermindDL1: 4.7.what?
[07:05] <OvermindDL1> szal: I was running unity2d last time it locked up
[07:05] <OvermindDL1> szal: kde
[07:05] <bodoh> photoshop of course
[07:05] <szal> OvermindDL1: I'm asking for the 3rd digit
[07:05] <pAt__> bodoh it is Bibble5
[07:05] <OvermindDL1> szal: no clue what patch version, not running it up right now, can check apt if you want
[07:05] <OvermindDL1> szal: sec...
[07:06] <bodoh> is that an app pAt__ ?
[07:06] <bodoh> let me google it
[07:06] <OvermindDL1> szal: 4.7.3, but this locking up has been happening since I ran 4.4.x
[07:06] <pAt__> Nah. A real.program for real computers :)
[07:07] <bodoh> looks good pAt__
[07:07] <OvermindDL1> szal: and I have ran various other window managers too, X locks up in all cases, leaving no log either
[07:07] <bodoh> do you use it too?
[07:07] <pAt__> Yes
[07:07] <szal> OvermindDL1: but if it's also w/ other GUIs, then it's probably not KDE-related..  I only had it occasionally w/ Oneiric (and I use exclusively KDE); if it has a history of freezing, it's probably hardware-related
[07:07] <OvermindDL1> szal: Been happening to me since I installed 9.10 on this system
[07:07] <OvermindDL1> szal: Er, 9.04 I think I started with...
[07:07] <szal> OvermindDL1: but nonetheless you might want to update to KDE 4.7.4, it fixes a lot of Plasma crashing woes
[07:08] <OvermindDL1> szal: KDE has been quite solid for me, only seen the KDE Plasma Crash Dump window about twice the whole time I have ran it
[07:08] <bodoh> you pay or just download it pAt__ ?
[07:08] <OvermindDL1> szal: That is over a multi-year period obviously
[07:08] <OvermindDL1> szal: unity on the other hand, sorely broken
[07:08] <szal> OvermindDL1: 4.7.3 is crash-happy, hence the hint
[07:08] <OvermindDL1> szal: I have even ripped out ubuntu-desktop and all parts and reinstalled to no avail
[07:09] <OvermindDL1> szal: unity never seems to load, never get anything but a blank desktop
[07:09] <szal> OvermindDL1: Oneiric's original 4.7.2 isn't, and 4.7.4 isn't either, so you definitely don't want to stick w/ 4.7.3
[07:09] <OvermindDL1> szal: unit2d works though
[07:09] <pAt__> You have to pay for it bodoh. It is a professional raw converter
[07:09] <bodoh> ok
[07:10] <OvermindDL1> szal: is 4.7.4 not in the repositories yet?  Not even a full-upgrade wants to pull it
[07:10] <szal> OvermindDL1: it's been out for a week and a half or so
[07:10] <OvermindDL1> szal: Do you have a ppa for it?  Since it is apparently not in official channels yet?
[07:10] <bodoh> I'm downloading it pAt__ ... let me see it now
[07:10] <szal> OvermindDL1: and be sure to reboot after installing it
[07:11] <OvermindDL1> szal: Oh the lockup will force a reboot soon in any case...
[07:11] <szal> OvermindDL1: yes, it's a PPA, 4.7.3 isn't official either
[07:11] <bodoh> btw .. how about gimp? .. does it support nikon's raw shots too?
[07:11] <OvermindDL1> szal: No clue how I have 4.7.3 then, I *just* upgraded to 11.10 a few days ago
[07:11] <OvermindDL1> szal: Regarldess, crashing, been happening for years, just getting worse the past few months...
[07:11] <OvermindDL1> szal: Locking up*
[07:12] <szal> OvermindDL1: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa
[07:12] <OvermindDL1> szal: Any idea why killing gpm or X or anything does not clear my screen of the frozen interface?
[07:12] <OvermindDL1> szal: gdm*
[07:12] <robertzaccour> anyone recommend a good parental control software?
[07:12] <robertzaccour> for the internet
[07:12] <szal> OvermindDL1: no
[07:14] <OvermindDL1> szal: Oh, and for note, the alt+prtscn rseinub never clears the screen when hitting any of the letters, not until I hit b and the system reboots...
[07:14] <szal> rseinub?
[07:14] <OvermindDL1> szal: I thought that, being a kernel level kill command, would do it for sure
[07:15] <OvermindDL1> szal:  r resets the keyboard into ascii mode, s syncs the disks or something, etc...
[07:15] <OvermindDL1> szal: One of the keys kills *every* process but init, and my screen is *still* frozen though...
[07:16] <dr_willis> ati video?
[07:16] <OvermindDL1> Yes, an older 3870
[07:16] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: I have tried ubuntu drivers, foss drivers, amd drivers, all make no change in the locking up
[07:17] <lahwran> df -h shows my root partition as having 199MB of space free, but gparted shows it as having 2.03GB free. anyone have any thoughts on what might cause such a large discrepancy?
[07:17] <dr_willis> the card is showing the memory if its last image buffer. seen ut befor.. ages ago
[07:17] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: And nothing ever clears it?
[07:18] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: I have a 5850 laying about, do you think that would make a difference or not?
[07:18] <dr_willis> OvermindDL1:  nwver really tried. thus was 6+ yrs ago
[07:18] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: I am quite certain the 3870 is fine as it ran other OS's fine...
[07:18] <dr_willis> i dont use ati any mire
[07:19] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: Not my option unfortunetly...
[07:19] <dr_willis> also seen framebyffers mess with ati. perhaps disable the db.
[07:19] <dr_willis> fb
[07:20] <OvermindDL1> fb?  framebuffer?  You can do that?
[07:20] <dr_willis> nofb option for grub
[07:21] <OvermindDL1> Hmm, what are the side effects of setting that?
[07:21] <szal> other than no shiny splash screen, I can't think of anything
[07:21] <szal> perhaps no MPlayer playback on the CLI
[07:21] <dr_willis> noquiet nosplash nofb      in etc/default/grub
[07:22] <dr_willis> may as well set grub to text mode also. :-)
[07:22] <dr_willis> old skool
[07:23] <OvermindDL1> Heh
[07:23] <OvermindDL1> I think I might still be using grub1 at that, had it here for a long long while
[07:23] <dr_willis> may be time for a clean install
[07:24] <OvermindDL1> Yeah, it has been, but this hard drive is tiny, been needing to replace it at that, and I *really* hate reinstalling everything...
[07:24] <dr_willis> reinstalling what wxactly
[07:24] <dr_willis> !clone
[07:25] <OvermindDL1> This computer is my 'play' computer, I have a few hundred to a thousand extra packages from apt, to about 100 server programs installed from source, to about 30 sites being hosted on this now to serve various interfaces for said servers...
[07:25] <dr_willis> i make a script to reinstall what i need
[07:26] <OvermindDL1> I have a couple of headless server that I run my real things on, but migrating this thing would be such a pain...
[07:26] <dr_willis> and how many do you use daily :-)
[07:27] <OvermindDL1> More then you would think...
[07:27] <dr_willis> copy hd to a vbox image. set it up in vbox..
[07:27] <dr_willis> then start on it fresh ;)
[07:27] <OvermindDL1> Been thinking of just buying yet another hard drive (already up to 7 in this thing) and install a new OS on it, keep my old one around to copy things and settings off of...
[07:28] <dr_willis> vbox nethod you could jyst have it running as normal
[07:29] <OvermindDL1> Heh, true, just have virtualbox use the physical hard drive...
[07:29] <dr_willis> no.. clone the hd to a image. safer
[07:30] <dr_willis> then move it to a different server
[07:30] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: Kind of out of hard drives space, hence my really wanting a new hd....
[07:30] <ZiRiu> Hello. I come from #rmlp bearing gifts. If you do not have Samorost2 on steam add me and it's yours. http://steamcommunity.com/id/ZiRiu
[07:30] <ikonia> ZiRiu: please don't spam with offtopic nonsense
[07:30] <ikonia> ZiRiu: this channel is for ubuntu support, not steam friends
[07:30] <ZiRiu> NO ONE WILL TAKE MY DAMN GAME
[07:31] <ZiRiu> Been trying to give it away for days
[07:31] <ikonia> ZiRiu: enough - in this channel.
[07:31] <elky> because nobody trusts spammers
[07:31] <TeslaTony> Does it run on Ubuntu?
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> im trying to delete xvidcap config file to repair/reinstall, but cant find the file...any clue?
[07:32] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  checkd man xvidcap ?
[07:32] <ZiRiu> Who ever Catharsis is got it.
[07:32] <bodoh> pAt__: I've even got the torrent
[07:33] <bodoh> not bad ;0
[07:33] <DeltaEpsilon> my mouse is too sensitive
[07:33] <suigeneris> I'm on LiveCD now. the harddisk won't mount when I click on it in nautilus. does that mean it's dead?
[07:33] <makara> Blue1: This tutorial says I should remove the network manager. It seems like a risky and way complicated method of setting DNS dont you think?
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: i tryed almost everything to find it /etc, /home
[07:33] <harsh343> how to set environment variable in ubuntu 11.10 ? dr_willis ???
[07:33] <suigeneris> oh, it mounted
[07:33] <dr_willis> harsh343:  export foo=bar
[07:34] <szal> suigeneris: does it show up?  does it throw an error on trying to mount?  does it mount from the terminal?
[07:34] <harsh343> dr_willis, any link for study ?
[07:34] <dr_willis> harsh343:  1000+ bash tutorials and guides online
[07:35] <dr_willis> maby even over 9000..... ;)
[07:35] <dr_willis> !bash
[07:35] <suigeneris> szal: when I attempt to boot normally from harddisk, I end up with "Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery
[07:35] <dr_willis> harsh343:  perhaps delicious.com/dr_willis  in my bash tags
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: maybe xvidcap saves config in another sort of file?
[07:36] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  no idea. never used it. you did look in 'man xvidcap' ?
[07:37] <szal> suigeneris: then do NOT mount the HDD on the live CD & run 'fsck -Cf /dev/sdXY' (replace X and Y w/ the correct letter and number)
[07:37] <Gorilla_No_Baka> hello there... ! good morning from UK .. quick question lads..  what the heck am i doing wrong?  i can't write to /etc/X11/xorg.conf  it says permision denied.. look here at the script i am working on  http://pastebin.com/Tjy6AKnY
[07:37] <szal> suigeneris: for each partition
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: yes i did but can't find it, xvidcap is best screenrecorder ever for ubuntu (specific area recording to mpeg4)
[07:37] <naked89tt> How let laptop become wifi AP?
[07:38] <suigeneris> szal: I did. it said "No corruptions"
[07:38] <robertzaccour> anyone recommend a good internet parental control software for ubuntu?
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: seems like the bug for xvidcap (32 bit depth error) not solved yet neither
[07:39] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  no idea.. ive never heard of the app util today..
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> robertzaccour: maybe firefox addons exist to parent control?
[07:39] <Indiana> Hostapd for wireles ap
[07:39] <robertzaccour> lotuspsychje: I don't think they do
[07:40] <naked89tt> Indiana, yes  But how .I googled some,but cant work
[07:40] <dr_willis> robertzaccour:  they do exist
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> robertzaccour: did you check software centre?
[07:40] <robertzaccour> dr_willis: I'll look into it tomorrow. thanks dr_willis and lotuspsychje
[07:40] <dr_willis> and the opendns service has blocking at the dns level also
[07:40] <Gorilla_No_Baka> hello there... ! good morning from UK .. quick question lads..  what the heck am i doing wrong?  i can't write to /etc/X11/xorg.conf  it says permision denied.. look here at the script i am working on  http://pastebin.com/Tjy6AKnY
[07:41] <robertzaccour> lotuspsychje: I have windows on my computer. someone I know with Linux has issues with her 12 year old
[07:41] <dr_willis> 12 yr olds gong to naughty sites?
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:41] <Indiana> Uv got to check if ur wifi device supports master mode
[07:41] <robertzaccour> lotuspsychje: I bought her and her family a used netbook and windows 7 starter was slow so I installed Linux on it and she told me about her 12 year old's bad surfing habits lately
[07:41] <makara> and Im not spamming, Im just trying to install this system but there so many issues
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> robertzaccour: im not sure forbidding stuff is the right way on a free operating system :p
[07:42] <naked89tt> Indiana, I can do it with win7.
[07:43] <robertzaccour> lotuspsychje: well with kids involved porn prevention on a computer is necessary
[07:43] <dr_willis> naked89tt:  some wireless cards/drivers in linux might not have all the same features
[07:44] <suigeneris> robertzaccour: the other day I read about a solution. in /etc/hosts, <IP_ADDRESS> www.example.com
[07:44] <dr_willis> robertzaccour:  best tip. move the pc to a public area of the house.
[07:44] <naked89tt> dr_willis, so how can I konw it supports.
[07:44] <robertzaccour> dr_willis: its a netbook
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> robertzaccour: kids on linux and forbidding is a bad idea, next time they try paswword cracking software lol
[07:44] <OvermindDL1> Could always install a logger for the parents?
[07:44] <dr_willis> naked89tt:  no idea. but i have some similer issues iwth a few laptops
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> robertzaccour: best way is to talk and explain the kid...
[07:45] <naked89tt> dr_willis, thanks anyway
[07:45] <Your_Dog> Agreed on your adied, lotuspsychje.
[07:45] <Your_Dog> idea
[07:45] <Blue1> lotuspsychje: you just need a great password like:  MyBolognahasaf1stname,1tsH0mer
[07:45] <robertzaccour> lotuspsychje: she already tried that. I don't wanna try to coach her on parenting, I was just wanting to help her set up the security
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> Your_Dog: tnx :p
[07:46] <OvermindDL1> robertzaccour: Could set it up to log everything and forward the logs to the parents?  People tend to be a *lot* more careful when they know they are being watched...
[07:46] <dr_willis> robertzaccour:  ff extensions, opendns, perhaps that peerguard blocking  proxy
[07:47] <OvermindDL1> Could even screenshot every minute or so
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> robertzaccour: i would give a shot with firefox addons or software center
[07:47] <robertzaccour> ok thanks dr_willis lotuspsychje
[07:47] <Blue1> ScrambledGr33n3ggsandHam
[07:47] <dr_willis> point a wireless webcam at  his pc....  big brother is watchig
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> lol blue1
[07:48] <Your_Dog> blue1, that reminds me of xkcd's password entropy joke. http://xkcd.com/936/
[07:48] <Blue1> lotuspsychje: i use a some I don't like with a singer I don't like.  makes great passwords
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> !nanny
[07:49] <Blue1> lotuspsychje: like K00lJ3rkB13b3r
[07:49] <DeltaEpsilon> hi
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> robertzaccour: software center: nanny 2.31.1-0ubuntu4
[07:49] <szal> Blue1: what's a fist name? ;)
[07:49] <ciocc> Hi Why do the min/max buttons move from the right side to the left when the browser is maximuised
[07:49] <DeltaEpsilon> are there native gtk3 Banshee alternative for ubuntu?
[07:49] <dr_willis> !info nany
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> robertzaccour: http://projects.gnome.org/nanny
[07:50] <dr_willis> !info nanny
[07:50] <szal> dr_willis: typing skill fail ;)
[07:50] <dr_willis> n keybord worn out
[07:50] <suigeneris> Comparing bitmaps..vpf-10630: The on-disk and the correct bitmaps differs. Will be fixed later. <--- when is this "later"?
[07:50] <harmandeep> hi guys
[07:51] <OvermindDL1> While I am here, next question.  Unity, why does it not load, I get the background but no bar at top, none at left, nothing anywhere, stays like that until I kill gdm or so.  Unity2d works fine, but not Unity
[07:51] <robertzaccour> lotuspsychje: it says for gnome 2.28. would it work for 3.2?
[07:51] <harmandeep> can we install ubuntu on a USB key ? ( not by using LiveUSBV creator)
[07:51] <Blue1> szal: yes
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> oh tnx dr_willis
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> cool trigger
[07:51] <dr_willis> OvermindDL1:  unity wants 3d video support. and your setup is somehow not doing it right
[07:51] <Blue1> harmandeep: yes dd
[07:51] <harmandeep> dd what ?
[07:51] <DeltaEpsilon> are there native gtk3 Banshee alternative for ubuntu?
[07:51] <szal> Blue1: a fist name is yes?
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> robertzaccour: it should
[07:52] <dr_willis> harmandeep:  full install to a usb flash is also possible
[07:52] <robertzaccour> lotuspsychje: ok thanks
[07:52] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: I definitely have 3d, games run just fine and very fast for example...
[07:52] <harmandeep> dd mine existing ubuntu installation to usb key ?
[07:52] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: Does it make a log anywhere?
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> !info xvidcap
[07:52] <Blue1> harmandeep: recipe here:  http://pkill-9.com/creating-a-usb-flash-drive-for-a-debian-install/
[07:52] <dr_willis> OvermindDL1:  not sure.  unity 2d works on my netbook. but not unity.
[07:53] <Scott_S> harmandeep: You wish to move your current install to a USB Flash Drive>
[07:53] <almoxarife> OvermindDL1: xorg.log
[07:53] <dr_willis> harmandeep:  what do you want to do exactly?
[07:53] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: No netbook here, 6 physical cores, 16 gigs ram, radeon 3870 video card, and get well over 100fps in minecraft, orcs must die, etc...
[07:53] <bodoh> bing is a nice search-engine
[07:53] <OvermindDL1> almoxarife: Xorg.log is, unrevealing...
[07:53] <bodoh> especially for porn
[07:53] <bodoh> try it
[07:53] <bodoh> look for image
[07:54] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: you can do it for different versions too
[07:54] <dr_willis> OvermindDL1:  see if it works on a live cd?
[07:54] <bodoh> so much better results than google
[07:54] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: No cd drive, removed it to add more hard drives...
[07:54] <auronandace> !info xvidcap lucid | lotuspsychje
[07:54] <becker_11> the window buttons are switching from the right side when in windowed mode to the left side when the window is maximised how can I change this???
[07:54] <dr_willis> OvermindDL1:  so make a live flash
[07:54] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: And no, no usb drives, I need to get some...
[07:54] <dr_willis> make grub boot the iso
[07:55] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: It can do that?!
[07:55] <harmandeep> i wanna run Ubuntu from mine USB key (Persistent way) , actually i will be using Ubuntu via USB KEY on mine Old Desktop , replacing USB key with its HDD
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> tnx auronandace
[07:55] <dr_willis> becker_11:  because uity moves them to the panel.  never seen a way to move them (yet)
[07:55] <Blue1> dr_willis: you can just dd the iso to the usb drive - no need for makeing it bootable
[07:56] <dr_willis> OvermindDL1:  grub2 can boot  ubuntu iso files.. yes
[07:56] <almoxarife> OvermindDL1: can you pastebin xorg.log?
[07:56] <dr_willis> Blue1:  he has no usb...
[07:56] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: Pretty sure I am still using grub1...
[07:56] <Blue1> dr_willis: skip that.
[07:56] <Scott_S> Harmandeep: You would have to install Ubutu to a USB Flash Drive, which can be done by simply selecting it as the install device.
[07:56] <becker_11> dr_willis, crap I'm setting up ubuntu 11.10 for my aunty & I'm trying to make the differences as minimal as possible
[07:56] <harmandeep> currently i am having an Ubuntu Lucid installation going on to sdb (USB key)
[07:56] <dr_willis> OvermindDL1:  so we are back to.... time to reinstall.. that may fix it all
[07:56] <OvermindDL1> almoxarife: Have no recent unity attempt, would need to leave and come back with it
[07:56] <Scott_S> Harmandeep: although, I'm unsure if the Ubuntu installer will list USB FDs as installable.
[07:56] <harmandeep> Scott_S: Same is going FTW
[07:57] <OvermindDL1> dr_willis: Yeah, leaning ever more that way...
[07:57] <dr_willis> becker_11:  try lubuntu perhaps
[07:57] <becker_11> Is it possible to hide the grub menu on boot so it just autoboots ubuntu?
[07:57] <szal> becker_11: differences to what?
[07:57] <becker_11> szal, windows
[07:57] <suigeneris> Comparing bitmaps..vpf-10630: The on-disk and the correct bitmaps differs. Will be fixed later. <--- when is this "later"?
[07:57] <dr_willis> becker_11:  yes. but it can cause other annoyances
[07:57] <Scott_S> Harmandeep: Keep in mind that flash drives are not designed for constant read/write and using it as the main drive will severely decrease its lifespan.
[07:57] <becker_11> dr_willis, no time she's picking it up later today
[07:58] <Tanthrix> Anyone know how to permanently rotate xorg screen 180 degrees? "Option" "Rotate" "right" gets me portrait, but I need full 180. Nvidia card if it makes any difference.
[07:58] <dr_willis> becker_11:  put some unity guide/links on her desktop
[07:58] <harmandeep> no worries
[07:58] <becker_11> dr_willis, oh well it's not a major issue I'll just leave it
[07:58] <harmandeep> formatted it as / with ext2
[07:58] <dr_willis> becker_11:  or install lubuntu-desktop and let her try them both
[07:58] <harmandeep> with no swap
[07:58] <Scott_S> Tanthrix: I believe when you select the option in the Screen Options, it remains as such until you select otherwise,
[07:59] <Tanthrix> Scott_S: Indeed, and it does stick in portrait mode when I have it set to "right".  IMHO
[08:00] <OvermindDL1> My hitachi drives have been solid for near a decade now, all western digital drives are long since dead though...
[08:00] <harmandeep> bodoh: very much indeed
[08:00] <bodoh> I said 'linux' though .. not necessarily 'ubuntu'
[08:00] <suigeneris> Tanthrix: hmm
[08:00] <bodoh> people who use linux like kinky sex
[08:01] <harmandeep> we get deeper and deeper and enjoy
[08:01] <suigeneris> bodoh: because they both end in x?
[08:01] <harmandeep> :P
[08:01] <Scott_S> Bodoh: Please refrain from speaking about such topics here. This channel is for Ubuntu support only, for other topics, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:02] <opticlove> what filetype are theme packages for gnome?
[08:02] <bodoh> just like they like kinky OS
[08:02] <bodoh> but then .. ubuntu sanitizes it
[08:02] <bodoh> so, think of ubuntu as the feminine pad .. when you do it raw way during her period
[08:02] <ikonia> tar
[08:02] <suigeneris> !ot | bodoh
[08:02] <ikonia> bodoh: stop talking nonsense now -
[08:03] <Tanthrix> Man, there is just nothing on google about this. Surely I can't be the only nut job with a monitor mounted upside down with a need to rotate 180 degrees.
[08:03] <Scott_S> Tanthrix: Go to "Displays" then choose "Rotation: 180 degrees"
[08:04] <becker_11> whats the recommended way to install googles chrome? via google or the software centre?
[08:04] <suigeneris> Tanthrix: out of curiosity. why do you have it upside down?
[08:04] <Scott_S> becker_11: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[08:04] <bodoh> it's Tanthrix fault ;(
[08:04] <bodoh> for being so suggestive
[08:04] <Tanthrix> Scott_S: Is that a gnome thing? I'm afraid I'm using fluxbox.
[08:04] <becker_11> Scott_S, chromium isn't chrome though
[08:04] <Tanthrix> suigeneris: I've got the screen mounted up high on a wall for a mythtv machine. The viewing angle is terrible when you're down below it. (ie, blacks look terrible)
[08:04] <bodoh> see .... Tanthrix uses that raw fluxbox ... Sx is related to Lx
[08:04] <szal> bodoh: yeah sure, blame your lack of discipline on others..
[08:05] <Scott_S> Tanthrix: It is part of the Ubuntu Settings. I am unsure whether it'll do it automatically for Fluxbox.
[08:05] <bodoh> Fx .. should I say ;)
[08:05] <Tanthrix> Found it!
[08:05] <bodoh> I use Fx too actually ... it's the best in many way
[08:05] <Tanthrix> Option Inverted did the trick
[08:05] <Scott_S> Tanthrix: Good to hear you got it working.
[08:05] <Tanthrix> Now the next step is to see if vdpau, v-sync, and all that good stuff work when the screen is inverted...
[08:06] <bodoh> when someone from Greece uses Linux ... why I'm not that surprised .. eh?
[08:06] <bodoh> free stuff?
[08:06] <suigeneris> brb. got to re-install
[08:06] <sandra> Hello my fellow Ubuntu inmates :-)
[08:07] <opticlove> ok so if i go to system -> preferences - appearance, what is that?
[08:07] <suigeneris> !ot | bodoh (for the second time)
[08:07] <sandra> I trust you all find yourselves well .
[08:07] <Tanthrix> .....and the answer is "nope." Shoot, looks like there is no acceleration of any kind in rotated mode.
[08:07] <opticlove> gtk 2.x? gnome shell?
[08:07] <Tanthrix> MythTV won't even open, since it's GL.
[08:07] <EvilResistance> sandra:  indeed.  do you have a support question?
[08:07] <sandra> I do indeed :-)
[08:08] <EvilResistance> sandra:  feel free to ask the channel then :)
[08:08] <sandra> I'd like to know if by some miracle is there a way to bring back the classic desktop to Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[08:09] <EvilResistance> sandra:  define "classic desktop"
[08:09] <qiyong> dns works well though
[08:09] <qiyong> w and who displays hostname as IP, how to let it display hostname?
[08:10] <sandra> I am currently using Ubuntu 11.04 w/out Unity and well I find the older classic desktop to be more efficient  and particle for day to day use.
[08:10] <EvilResistance> sandra:  the older gnome-without-unity in 11.04 is gnome-shell / "Ubuntu Classic"
[08:10] <szal> !notunity | sandra
[08:10] <EvilResistance> in 11.10 i dont think they have gnome 2's desktop
[08:10] <EvilResistance> but read ubottu there
[08:11] <Scott_S> sandra: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop gnome-tweak-tool
[08:11] <Scott_S> ... woops.
[08:11] <sandra> I find that I'm hampered by quiet a few glitches on the Unity desktop found on 11.10.
[08:11] <EvilResistance> sandra:  well 11.10 uses GNOME 3, not GNOME 2.  11.04 iirc uses GNOME 2
[08:11] <dr_willis> unity is a work in progress
[08:11] <Scott_S> sandra: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell gnome-tweak-tool (That should work)
[08:12] <Scott_S> sandra: Then select "Gnome" when logging in as the Desktop environment.
[08:12] <dr_willis> gnome-shell and uity both are getting  better all the time
[08:13] <sandra> I appreciate the thoughtful responses. Please forgive my ignorance my son the HP software engineer put Ubuntu 11.04 on my desktop and well truth be told I have found it be a wonderful alternative to windows.
[08:14] <au_fait> ?
[08:14] <Scott_S> sandra: It definitely is a very useful and user-friendly version of Linux.
[08:17] <sandra> I will look into these alternatives and tools for Unity and Gnome 3. I did  try Ubuntu 11.10 but noticed I had problems with my nvidia drivers both the default and current 290 driver and then Skype also malfunctioned on me, and Skype is a essential application for me both personally and professionally .
[08:18] <stevejb> anyone have a moment to help diagnose a gnome-shell issue I am seeing on 11.10?
[08:18] <sandra> I'm just at a loss as to why my video drivers work flawlessly under Ubuntu 11.04 as well as Skype. And yet does not under Ubuntu 11.10
[08:18] <ok_wait> does anybody know anything about plasma-desktop leaving behind artifacts like this http://picpaste.com/Workspace_1_024-3ie5JKam.jpeg even after plasma-desktop has been killed?
[08:18] <ikonia> sandra: because it's a different version
[08:18] <ikonia> sandra: both are closed sourced product, so not under the control of ubuntu
[08:18] <Scott_S> Heyyy ikonia is back.
[08:18] <ok_wait> i can click through that menu in red
[08:19] <sandra> ikonia: I appreciate that but I do believe Skype is a customized version made for Ubuntu 11.10
[08:19] <becker_11> Am going to have to install Ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop later haven't used it since 9.04 prefering my custom debian install instead but need to familarise myself with the changes
[08:19] <ikonia> sandra: you are wrong
[08:20] <jubei> hello. I am trying to setup vnc server on my box but I"ve found a bunch of different guides each of them proposes a different way
[08:20] <jubei> anybody with a sure-fire way to get vnc server on my currently running gnome desktop?
[08:20] <ikonia> jubei: there are many ways
[08:21] <jubei> ikonia, well.. ideally one that doesn't require lots of time to set up:)
[08:21] <ikonia> jubei: all require effort to do it well, how long that effort takes depends on your abilities
[08:21] <lotrpy> hello, apt-get remove fping will remove fping and zabbix-server-mysql, why it will remove zabbix-server-mysql?
[08:21] <jubei> ikonia, any suggestions?
[08:21] <ikonia> jubei: no
[08:21] <Tanthrix> So, I'm reading the nvidia forums, and I haven't seen a single mention of acceleration not working when rotating. Anyone know if that is the case?
[08:22] <sandra> ikonia: I suggest you look at the source package and where it comes from and well on Ubuntu forums and website it states that the skype package is customized for use by the Ubuntu team.
[08:22] <ikonia> sandra: you can't look at the source package - it's closed source
[08:22] <ikonia> sandra: please show me on the ubuntu website where it says skype is a custom version for ubuntu ?
[08:23] <lotrpy> hello, when I apt-get remove fping will remove fping and zabbix-server-mysql, why it will remove zabbix-server-mysql? it's ubuntu 11.10
[08:23] <ikonia> lotrpy: does zabbix-server-mysql depend on that package ?
[08:23] <dr_willis> jubei:  it depends on your needs and how you will use vnc also
[08:23] <dr_willis> !info fping
[08:23] <jubei> dr_willis, I just want to see my desktop and click around, nothing fancy like file transfers etc
[08:24] <dr_willis> jubei:  over local lan? you mean current visible desktop? or hidden remote desktop...
[08:25] <jubei> dr_willis, currently logged-in desktop, over the internet, no hidden stuff
[08:25] <dr_willis> jubei:  try teamviewer
[08:25] <jubei> dr_willis, kk, thanks.
[08:27] <Scott_S> jubei: Ubuntu has a VNC server installed by default.
[08:27] <dr_willis> Scott_S:  but over the internet. i dont think that works.
[08:27] <dr_willis> at least not securely
[08:27] <jubei> Scott_S, doesn't work unfortunately. I tried the "remote desktop" thingie
[08:27] <dr_willis> !vnc
[08:28] <Scott_S> dr_willis: It does. You simply need to open the required port on your router to your local IP address.
[08:28] <jubei> Scott_S, for some reason it does't work on my box
[08:28] <dr_willis> jubei:  ive had issues with it i the past also.
[08:29] <dr_willis> jubei:  depeding on what you are doing, you could just use ssh and x forwarding
[08:31] <sandra> ikonia: Skype is customized for use on Oneiric and comes via oneiric channel . In any case my point was and is that Skype works flawlessly for me on Ubuntu 11.04 and that it doesn't on Ubuntu 11.10 because of a implementation of "Arch i386 file system that is suppose to enhance the use of 32 bit code on a 64 bit operating system which in my novice opinion remains to be seen.
[08:32] <Guest8134> witm
[08:35] <lyrae> how do i findout if an unmounted drive is hda1 or hdb1, etc
[08:36] <dr_willis> lyrae:  'sudo fdisk -l' msy give some info, sudo blkid, perhaps other ways
[08:36] <lyrae> dr_willis, fdisk didi t. ty
[08:36] <wawrek> what is the best command line based package manager for ubuntu?
[08:37] <dr_willis> wawrek:  i just use apt-get as needed
[08:37] <dr_willis> !apt
[08:37] <wawrek> one thing i realy liked about gentoo is portage
[08:38] <wawrek> i use it, I also found aptitude
[08:38] <dr_willis> apt-get or aptitude are the 2 options.
[08:38] <wawrek> thanks
[08:39] <dr_willis> it    pays to get your apt fu skills up.
[08:42] <xtgyal> Hello, I cannot get Unicode to display in Ubuntu 10.04 Firefox 3.6.  Spanish-language text displays as: colecciÃ³n de pelÃculas y programas de televisiÃ³n
[08:42] <becker_11> I've just been reading a ubuntu documentation article for the ati radeion free driver but it doesn't mention how to install it Any ideas/suggests pls?
[08:45] <xtgyal> never mind, I forgot <meta charset="utf-8"> it works now
[08:51] <becker_11> I've checked the software centre and it only lists the propriety driver for ati radeon cards how can I install the free drier mentioned here
[08:51] <becker_11> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[08:54] <Henric_> Hello. I was hoping someone could help me with a problem I have. My system is dual booted with XP and oneric ocelot. When I select ubuntu from the chainloader it drops me to a black grub screen that recognizes almost no commands. Can't do sudo or anything. Something is broken. Please help.
[08:55] <urlin2u> Henric_, is this a fresh install of oneiric?
[08:55] <Henric_> urlin2u_, no I've run it for a while.
[08:56] <Henric_> I suspect it's something in the MBR or swap file that's messing with me.
[08:56] <urlin2u> Henric_, so when you say chainloader you mean the grub menu right?
[08:58] <urlin2u> Henric_ the mbr can be reloaded, the swap shouldn't be making any diffrence here.
[08:58] <Henric_> urlin2u_, no, sorry, it's XPs dual boot option. Normally when selcting ubuntu I would get the grub loader (normal, recovery, etc.), the purple screen. But now it's just a black screen that gives me a command prompt.
[08:58] <sweb> can in completly reinstall my os just with ssh access ?
[08:59] <sweb> repartitioning and etc ...
[08:59] <urlin2u> Henric_, is this a wubi install?
[08:59] <Henric_> urlin2u_, yes.
[09:00] <dr_willis> sweb:  i dont think so.
[09:00] <Henric_> urlin2u_, I also have a live CD which I made in an attempt to fix all this.
[09:00] <urlin2u> Henric_, have you considered a real dual boot you can get into the ubuntu to save what you need from XP.
[09:00] <urlin2u> media etc
[09:00] <sweb> dr_willis: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13106/how-can-i-install-ubuntu-on-a-headless-machine. it will just replace it ?
[09:01] <dr_willis> sweb:  not without some extra work at least
[09:01] <Henric_> urlin2u_, that would be perfect. I have no problem reinstalling the system, but I have some files I'd like to get off it first.
[09:01] <urlin2u> Henric_, basically wubi was not designed for long term use,
[09:01] <sweb> dr_willis: which is exactly require for this ?
[09:01] <dr_willis> sweb:  ive not seen an installer that has ssh on it.
[09:01] <sweb> dr_willis: which is required ? kvm ?
[09:02] <Henric_> urlin2u_, so I'm better off installing it from the live CD?
[09:02] <becker_11> I give up the colours are crap on this monitor so I'll just install the proprietary drivers
[09:02] <dr_willis> sweb:  i just dd a image from flash drive normally.
[09:02] <urlin2u> Henric_, I believe you can get your stuff out through the ubuntu file in XP, I haven't done it myself though. If I had a fix for the ubuntu i would suggest it but I'm not sure there myself.
[09:03] <Henric_> How do I get the stuff through the ubuntu file in XP?
[09:04] <urlin2u> Henric_, you will have to look in the ubuntu file there are a couple of users on the ubuntu forums who are probably your best bet as far as any recovery.
[09:05] <urlin2u> maybe a fix as well hard to say
[09:06] <Henric_> urlin2u_, I can do a proper install (which I thought this was), especially if I can get the files off.
[09:06] <urlin2u> Henric_, not a lot of wubi users in this channel, it is much busier during the day US tiome here.
[09:07] <Henric_> urlin2u_, no sweat. I'll bite the bullet and reinstall. Are you saying that wubi basically let's me run ubuntu within XP? I always thought that it was just one of the ways of installing it ubuntu?
[09:08] <dr_willis> you can mount the wubi file from a live cd..andcopy stuff from it. or backup the whole wubi dir smewhere
[09:08] <dr_willis> Henric_:  it boots linux frm the files
[09:09] <dr_willis> xp isnot loaded
[09:09] <dr_willis> !wubi
[09:11] <mang0> Is there any way I can get more than 4 workspaces?
[09:11] <urlin2u> Henric_, here is the wubi wiki it does mention running a chkdsk /r if the XP has had some bad shutdowns and the ubuntu wont boot your choce here.
[09:12] <urlin2u> Henric_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#Cannot_boot_into_Ubuntu
[09:12] <Henric_> Great. I'm starting to get what you're all saying here. If I understand you correctly, I can run ubuntu from the live CD, mount the wubi file as a volume, grab what I need and put it somewhere safe, and then do a fresh install of ubuntu. Sound about right? And thanks for the wiki.
[09:12] <dr_willis> Henric_: you got it
[09:13] <Worldwider> hello people
[09:13] <urlin2u> mang0, what release and what desktop?
[09:14] <Worldwider> good morning
[09:14] <Henric_> Awesome. That's what I'll do. Thanks for all the help!
[09:14] <mang0> urlin2u: gnome2, 11.04, 32 bit.
[09:14] <Worldwider> i want help to install tar.gz files in ubuntu 11.10
[09:15] <urlin2u> mang0, unity? have you set up the cube?
[09:15] <urlin2u> mang0, or the fallback desktop?
[09:15] <mang0> urlin2u: I said gnome :P
[09:15] <mang0> Not unity
[09:15] <llutz_> Worldwider: "tar xjf foo.tar.gz"
[09:15] <llutz_> Worldwider: "tar xzf foo.tar.gz"    sry
[09:16] <Worldwider>  i want help to install tar.gz files in ubuntu 11.10
[09:16] <mang0> urlin2u: I tried unity, the launch bar dock thing didn't work, so I went back to gnome.
[09:16] <DarsVaeda> Hi, I copy files from one to another folder in nautilus, but it does not copy all files ?!?
[09:16] <llutz_> Worldwider: command shown above will extract it. read README or whatever comes with the tarball, how to proceed
[09:16] <Janith> Worldwider: read the INSTALL file
[09:17] <Worldwider> hey can somebody help me?
[09:17] <llutz_> Worldwider: can you read?
[09:18] <ssisc> hii i am having some issues in ubuntu 9.04
[09:18] <ikonia> ssisc: sure, whats up, keep in mind that 9.04 is dead, end of life
[09:18] <ssisc> plz check this link
[09:18] <ssisc> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11542005
[09:18] <urlin2u> mang0, probably with compiz not sure really with the cube I can add extra.
[09:18] <urlin2u> mang0, I don't know if conpiz is the default manager in the fallback.
[09:18] <mang0> Worldwider: A tar.gz file is like a .zip file. It's not runnable, it's only a compressed group of files/folders. Use the command llutz_ said to extract the files, and then view the Readme file.
[09:19] <ikonia> ssisc: never used that software, so I can't help.
[09:19] <mang0> urlin2u: How do I find out what window manager I'm using?
[09:19] <ssisc> Hangul and Hanja keys are not working (Korean/English toggle key)
[09:20] <Worldwider> urlin2u  i want help to install tar.gz files in ubuntu 11.10?
[09:20] <ikonia> Worldwider: what software do you want to install ?
[09:20] <ssisc> anyone came across this issue before
[09:20] <ssisc> ??
[09:21] <Janith> Ssisc: no me
[09:21] <sweb> how can i upgrade my ubuntu to new version via ssh
[09:21] <ssisc> ohk
[09:21] <urlin2u> mang0, somebody here knows they will help you out as far as more desktops justa bit slow right now.
[09:21] <ikonia> sweb: it's not something that's advised for a desktop install
[09:21] <ikonia> !upgrade | sweb
[09:21] <ikonia> the processes is listed ther
[09:21] <ikonia> there
[09:22] <mang0> urlin2u: Ah, okay. Thanks!
[09:22] <urlin2u> mang0, better somebody who knows rather then me guessing.
[09:22] <mang0> urlin2u: Sure, np.
[09:23] <ikonia> Worldwider: what software do you want to install ?
[09:24] <Worldwider> ikonia it's fgrun
[09:24] <Worldwider> it's a flightgear assistant
[09:24] <ikonia> !find fgrun
[09:25] <dirtydaw1> .
[09:25] <ikonia> interesting, there is an interesting package for MOTU
[09:25] <ikonia> Worldwider: ok, what's the issue ?
[09:25] <somsip> Worldwider: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:26] <DirtyDawg> .
[09:26] <ikonia> DirtyDawg: please stop that
[09:27] <DirtyDawg> k, just setting up my irssi, couldnt see what my nickname was
[09:27] <llutz_> DirtyDawg: /nick    tells you, no need to spam
[09:27] <SunTsu> DirtyDawg: irssi normally shows that in your status line, right before your user modes
[09:27] <DirtyDawg> ahh
[09:28] <DirtyDawg> i removed the status line
[09:28] <SunTsu> DirtyDawg: then see above what llutz_ just wrote. Anyway, this is getting more spam than the initial deed ;)
[09:28] <DirtyDawg> lol, k mate, sorry again
[09:30] <Worldwider> somsip it's 11.10
[09:31] <Worldwider> somsip?
[09:31] <somsip> Worldwider: wait
[09:31] <Worldwider> ok :-)
[09:31] <Guest40999> [B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B
[09:31] <Guest40999> hi all
[09:32] <somsip> Worldwider: this page refers to "brisa's script" and someone who had success using it to install on 11.10
[09:32] <somsip> http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14630&p=144589
[09:32] <somsip> Worldwider: this page seems to have "brisa's script" http://wiki.flightgear.org/Scripted_Compilation_on_Linux_Debian/Ubuntu
[09:34] <Henric_> OK, so I ran into a small problem... Where is the wubi file located?
[09:35] <Humbedooh> wubi.exe?
[09:35] <Janith> Worldwider: why don't you use software centre?
[09:35] <Guest40999> hi all , ive got a rtl8187 usb adapter, it worked fine until a couple days ago, on 2 systems it doesnt associate with any AP, not with wpa_supplicant nor with wicd, or nm-applet, ive user rmmod , rfkill , replugging it, different usb ports, different antenna , open networks.
[09:35] <kltrg> My /boot partition is nearly full and I get a warning every time I reboot my system. I already deleted old kernel packages (linux-headers...), actually I did that to install a newer kernel version that came with the automatic updates. After installing that new version, the partition is nearly full again. So what else can I delete? Are there some other files associated to the old kernel images?#
[09:36] <Worldwider> janith it has not fgrun
[09:36] <Worldwider> fgrun is only a assistant
[09:37] <Janith> Worldwider: oh!
[09:37] <Henric_> Humbedooh_, no, the wubi file that can be mounted once you're running from the live CD. My original wubi install is shot and I'm trying to recover some files before I do a clean reinstall.
[09:37] <Worldwider> software center has only flightgear
[09:39] <Henric_> Snille_, svensk?
[09:39] <Humbedooh> uhm, /path/to/install/disks/root.disk ?
[09:40] <Janith> Guys, I want to resiz my partitions without damaging files. Is there any software like partition magic?
[09:40] <somsip> !parted | Janith
[09:40] <somsip> !gparted
[09:41] <Gorilla_No_Baka> guys ... what am i doing wrong? anybody>?  I am trying to run a script i made ( here is the script   http://pastebin.com/gD9mtMAj  ) and   here is a screenshot http://i40.tinypic.com/1z3bic8.png   any ideas?
[09:42] <Henric_> Humbedooh_, no, I was thinking this would have to be somewhere in my windows folders (I'm dual booted with XP), wouldn't it?
[09:42] <Janith> Somsip: can it resize the ubuntu installed partition?
[09:43] <somsip> Gorilla_No_Baka: xorg.conf probably needs sudo access to write
[09:43] <somsip> Janith: what sort of partitions - all linux, or mix of windows and linux, or wubi and windows?
[09:43] <dagerik> Gorilla_No_Baka: set the permission bit, and run the script like this: $ sudo ./script.sh
[09:44] <Humbedooh> it is, henric
[09:44] <Janith> Somsip: mix of win. and linux
[09:44] <Gorilla_No_Baka> dagerik:  set the permision bit as in?  i am only a biginer whe it comes to scripts
[09:44] <happy20> hi
[09:44] <dagerik> dagerik: You use chmod for this. Look it up in the shell: man chmod
[09:44] <Humbedooh> in c:\whatever\disks\root.disk
[09:44] <Humbedooh> where you installed wubi
[09:44] <happy20> i am using ubuntu lts as a guest using virtualbox how do i set the screen resolution there, its very small
[09:45] <somsip> Janith: it'll be fine with win and linux. Well..there are no guarantees with changes to partitions so make sure you are backed up, but I've used gparted a few times to resize live partitions without data loss
[09:45] <llutz_> happy20: install guest-additions
[09:45] <happy20> i installed
[09:45] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: that screenshot is strange. you run bash script and get a sudo password prompt although all sudo calls in that script are commented away?
[09:45] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: Looks like it's telling only half the story
[09:45] <happy20> liutz_ i have installed but that's not doing anything, should i mount it? if yes, how do i do that?
[09:46] <happy20> i in fact installed the guest addition in ubuntu lts after starting it in virtual box
[09:46] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu:  that was before ... small mistake typing sudo in front of cd
[09:46] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[09:46] <Henric_> Humbedooh, OK, I see what you mean. But does that hold all the data? It's not just the wubi.exe, right?
[09:47] <Gorilla_No_Baka> as you can see is removed from the script now
[09:47] <dagerik> Gorilla_No_Baka: Have you looked up the chmod program?
[09:47] <Humbedooh> it's an image of your ubuntu disk
[09:47] <Humbedooh> so it should be something like 16GB in size or such
[09:47] <happy20> ok
[09:47] <happy20> not
[09:47] <biopyte> hi. i have a problem the terminal bell not ringing  .... echo -e '\a'  and stuff ... no sound .... any idea?
[09:48] <Gorilla_No_Baka> dagerik:   yeah no probs.. what i am trying to understand is what file to you wht me to chmode?
[09:48] <llutz_> happy20: sudo mount /dev/sr0 /mnt   then run the installerscript, sudo /mnt/.....
[09:48] <happy20> i installed the guest addition from ubuntu software center
[09:48] <happy20> llutz_: after i start the ubuntu machine?
[09:48] <llutz_> happy20: did you restart after installation?
[09:48] <Humbedooh> biopyte, do you have any sound at all? ;>
[09:48] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: yes, and a big mistake in not using sudo for that touch, you don't have permissions to create/change that file. I'd copy it to your directory anyway, append stuff, copy it back using sudo and chmod/chown it there using sudo
[09:48] <happy20> yes
[09:48] <happy20> yes i did restart
[09:49] <happy20> after installing guest addition in the guest ubuntu lts
[09:49] <biopyte> Humbedooh, yes ... mp3, movies ... sound is fine
[09:49] <Gorilla_No_Baka> ok.. lemme try again
[09:49] <Henric_> Humbedooh, OK, now I just have to remember where I installed it...
[09:49] <dagerik> Gorilla_No_Baka: To be able to run a file, it must be executable. Then you caan go $ ./script     This was semirelated to your problem.
[09:49] <Humbedooh> is it a terminal client window on the desktop/
[09:49] <Humbedooh> ?
[09:50] <Gorilla_No_Baka> dagerik:  the script is already set as executable..
[09:50] <biopyte> Humbedooh, internal speaker, of course
[09:50] <Gorilla_No_Baka> otherwise i would not have been able to call it from  te terminal using bash
[09:50] <biopyte> Humbedooh, good question ... i have to find out exactly what kind of terminal it is
[09:50] <biopyte> one moment
[09:51] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: the way you do, using "bash $script" there's no need for execution rights, because you don't execute the script but the interpreter
[09:51] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: if you'd call it ./script _then_ you would need +x on it
[09:52] <biopyte> Humbedooh, its a gnome-terminal and i activated Terminal Bell in the settings
[09:52] <biopyte> no beep
[09:52] <Humbedooh> have you tried "xset b on"?
[09:52] <biopyte> no, one moment
[09:53] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu:  i'm losing you... are you sugesting to modifiy the name of the file to  something else?
[09:53] <Janith> Somsip: Thank you. It seems working.
[09:53] <somsip> Janith: cool
[09:54] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: no, I was just disagreeing with you telling us that you couldn't do "bash script" the way you do without execution permissions on that script file
[09:54] <biopyte> Humbedooh, still no beep after "xset b on"
[09:54] <biopyte> echo -e '\a'
[09:55] <Gorilla_No_Baka> so should i chmode x the touchpad file before calling it from ther termnal again
[09:55] <Gorilla_No_Baka> ?
[09:55] <biopyte> standard ubuntu install 11.04
[09:55] <biopyte> i check .bashrc
[09:55] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: basically it doesn't matter. I actually would matter if you wanted to execute that script directly, unlike what you are doing
[09:56] <SunTsu> It*
[09:56] <Humbedooh> biopyte, try running "xrdb -query" and see if the config might tell you something
[09:56] <biopyte> ok
[09:56] <Humbedooh> other than that, I don't think I have that many solutions
[09:57] <biopyte> xrdb output gives me no clue .... dpi, antialias and stuff
[09:58] <Gorilla_No_Baka> dagerik:  the script is already set as executable.. automizing the touchpart support make it automatic..  i could use some hand helding here...
[09:58] <Gorilla_No_Baka> boolck]
[09:58] <Gorilla_No_Baka> \damt
[09:58] <Gorilla_No_Baka> stupid
[09:59] <dagerik> Gorilla_No_Baka: Go ahead ask your questions.
[09:59] <biopyte> Humbedooh, "speaker" in alsamixer is set to "0"
[09:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu: .. i am speaking in a foreign language.. been away all night long working on a script that with only one click will set all the desired gsettings and gconf preferences , download desired apps installs them  removes undeded stuff and now this is the only part where i am stuck a ... as i was saying before i deleted by mistake the other line i wrote... i could use some hand helding here
[09:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> dagerik:  SunTsu  cheers guys
[10:00] <Humbedooh> well that might explain something I guess :>
[10:00] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu:  is trying to tell me something.. i m  afraid it foes right over my head
[10:00] <Gorilla_No_Baka> goes
[10:00] <biopyte> Humbedooh, i guess ... but i cant change the value .... where can i change it?
[10:01] <Humbedooh> tried sudo alsamixer? :<
[10:01] <biopyte> again, sound is working listenig to mp3 and stuff
[10:01] <dagerik> Gorilla_No_Baka: I suggest you go and google "bash tutorial". Can be very educational.
[10:01] <biopyte> sudo ... ok
[10:02] <llutz_> biopyte: sudo modprobe pcspkr
[10:02] <Gorilla_No_Baka> dagerik:  been doing that for the last 2 days mate.. chhers.. however i could not find an answer to what i am not able to create a file in /etc and write to it.. I understand is because of teh permision .. but i tought the touchpad script was already set as executable.. both from terminal and from the GUI
[10:03] <biopyte> llutz, i tried that already ... one moment i have to figure out how to change the alsamixer setting
[10:03] <dagerik> Gorilla_No_Baka: If you read a tutorial, you would see that you can use echo and > to write data to files. Or you could use the >> to append to files.
[10:03] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: my version would be http://pastebin.com/NPCSbZeR - but attention, this is untested, better double-check it
[10:04] <SunTsu> dagerik: which he already did, see his previous pastey
[10:04] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu:  dagerik  cheers guys!
[10:05] <Stanley00> SunTsu: I think you should "escape" the quote (")
[10:05] <Gorilla_No_Baka> guys.. thanks again..
[10:06] <SunTsu> Stanley00: yeah, you're right, I only copied that part from Gorilla_No_Baka's script
[10:07] <Gorilla_No_Baka> hey what qute do i need to lose ? the one after echo?
[10:07] <mang0> Ohgod
[10:07] <mang0> I've got a bsod on a certain workspace O.O
[10:08] <mang0> fixed *phew*
[10:08] <freedom7> mang0, you close the jpg screenshot of a windows pc?
[10:09] <mang0> teehee freedom7, no chrome crashed blue
[10:09] <Stanley00> Gorilla_No_Baka: do you want all line from section to endsection goes into xorg.conf?
[10:09] <Gorilla_No_Baka> Stanley00:  err (faceslap) that was the original idea
[10:09] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[10:10] <Stanley00> Gorilla_No_Baka: did you hear about the "HERE document" ?
[10:10] <Humbedooh> mang0, pfft - I've had a worse day :p
[10:10] <biopyte> Humbedooh, in alsamixer i unmuted 'Beep' and raised the dB ... 'Speaker' dB cant be changed .... still no BEEP after all
[10:10] <Randolph> hi all
[10:10] <Gorilla_No_Baka> the quotes.. would have prevented the lines to be written even if i had permissions..  the her edocument  nice when you have to deal with lots of text...
[10:10] <Gorilla_No_Baka>  but for few lines i thought it should not be neded
[10:10] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: http://pastebin.com/VFbJ50Sc might be a better version
[10:11] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu:  checking it now
[10:11] <biopyte> Humbedooh, maybe a BIOS setting?
[10:11] <Humbedooh> spent yesterday sifting through 1k lines of code with valgrind, trying to find a memory bug...only to discover this morning, that it was a good old case of writing "==" instead of "=" :<
[10:11] <Humbedooh> biopyte, if you are running it on xterm, shouldn't it use your audio device for playing the beep though?
[10:12] <biopyte> i dont know
[10:12] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: I turned your series of echos into a single here document which bypassed the shell, therefore making quoting easier
[10:12] <Humbedooh> or in other words, if you do ctrl+alt=f1, does it make a beep in the real terminal?
[10:12] <biopyte> echo -e '\a' .... no beep
[10:12] <SunTsu> Humbedooh: old case of "if you have a hammer everything starts looking like a nail"? :>
[10:13] <Humbedooh> exactly :<
[10:14] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu:  thanks man.. i am reading your versions now.. trying to understand them.. this is a lot better than what i came up with... :)
[10:14]  * Gorilla_No_Baka coffe break
[10:14] <biopyte> Humbedooh, good point ... it beeps like a charme on the real terminal Ctrl-alt-F1
[10:14] <proxx8187> i really hope someone can give me some support ,  i have an alfa card with a 8187 chipset, the point is that i cannot authenticate to any network, open or with encr. ive used wpa_supplicant, WICD, nm-applet. ive un/reloaded the modules, tried couple of usb ports, different antennas..different PC's, it all worked fine couple of days ago.im afraid the card is dead  man iam lost,  owyeah, and different drivers, the funny thing is i c
[10:14]  * Humbedooh throws in an 'e' for Gorilla_No_Baka's break
[10:14] <Stanley00> Gorilla_No_Baka: here is mine, just for the write task http://paste.ubuntu.com/778452/
[10:15] <biopyte> Humbedooh, so .. this tells me ... what?
[10:15] <Humbedooh> proxx8187, does dmesg tell you if it's working?
[10:15] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: I did overlook one redirection, though, the ">> /etc/X11/xorg.conf" after Section... needs to be gone
[10:15] <biopyte> echo -e 'a' on tty1 ... beeps
[10:15] <Gorilla_No_Baka> Stanley00:  i am copying youras as well to read them over the coffe
[10:16] <biopyte> '\a'
 ill check
[10:16] <biopyte> but no beep using xterm
[10:16] <Humbedooh> biopyte, did you check the mixer control on the desktop? maybe xterm isn't set to use any sound card
[10:17] <biopyte> Humbedooh, where do i find this setting ... is it in the preferences?
[10:17] <wunnle> hey all.
 its scanning , and finds the AP, tries to authenticate
[10:17] <proxx8187> then times out
[10:17] <wunnle> is there a way to make menu bar transparent only on desktop?
[10:18] <Humbedooh> biopyte, I'm using xfce myself, so I wouldn't know exactly where on regular ubuntu :<
[10:18] <Humbedooh> proxx8187, have you tried rebooting the end point? :>
[10:18] <biopyte> ok
[10:18] <biopyte> gnome here
 end point ?
[10:19] <mang0> Humbedooh: :(
[10:19] <Humbedooh> well you're connecting to something, yes?
[10:19] <Humbedooh> there, there, mang0...it's just on my server, I use real ubuntu at home!
[10:19] <Humbedooh> with bells and whistles and moomins
 lol yes , multiple AP's couple of open ones as well , my other cards do connect
[10:20] <mang0> Humbedooh: \o/
[10:20] <mang0> Lol
[10:21] <Humbedooh> have you tried using a different auth type, proxx8187?
[10:21] <Humbedooh> like PKE or whatever
 so far ive tried ccsm,tkip and open
[10:22] <AceKing> SunTsu, are you here?
[10:22] <SunTsu> AceKing: with a single eye, yes
[10:22] <Humbedooh> suntsu is killing people in another channel :<
 mostly use wpa_supplicant from the command line, gives me time out
[10:23] <SunTsu> only the kenny equivalent
[10:23] <AceKing> SunTsu, OK, do you remember the Internet connection problem that you were helping me with yesterday?
one 3 different machines(VM, ubuntu and backtr.  thats whats scares me.
[10:24] <AceKing> SunTsu, I found a page online with a solution that worked. http://www.rvdavid.net/how-to-get-gigabit-speeds-from-rtl81118168b-pci-express-gigabit-ethernet-controller-on-ubuntu-linux/
[10:25] <Humbedooh> proxx8187, maybe google "ubuntu wifi 8187 timeout"? :>
[10:25] <AceKing> SunTsu, I figured I'd pass that along to you in case you ever had anyone else with the same problem. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction
[10:25] <SunTsu> AceKing: good to know, looks like I was on the wrong track, then
[10:26] <proxx8187> humbedooh, thnx
[10:26] <vsync_> why is it hip to read the art of war
[10:26] <SunTsu> vsync_: is it?
[10:26] <Humbedooh> also, try getting the latest development version of the wifi driver and compile it yourself
[10:26] <vsync_> whenever you open up itunes it's there on top. But maybe it's just iDevice hipsters
[10:27] <Humbedooh> well the Art of War is a good book
[10:27] <Fudge> hi does anyone know i think its sysctl that can tell you the date of when your system was started
, yeah ill grab it from the site and compile , iam afraid that the adapter is a dead fish :S:S:S
[10:27] <vsync_> Humbedooh it's merely a compilation of obvious things
[10:27] <SunTsu> vsync_: well, this nick dates back to er year 2k, I read the book way earlier the first time, maybe back in '94 or such
[10:28] <is_null> hi all, any idea how can i figure why my mobile broadland connection fails ?
[10:28] <is_null> it starts the connection procedure, then aborts silently and it's as if nothing had happened
[10:28] <Humbedooh> it's only obvious once you've realized it
[10:29] <is_null> althought i'm using ubuntu 11.10 with ubuntu 11.10 certified device (413c:818d http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/make/usb%3A413C/index.html?start=50&batch=50)
[10:29] <vsync_> well, anyone could write stuff like "rather pillage conquered villages than send supplies from homefront"... d'oh?
[10:29] <proxx8187> offtopic......................
[10:29] <SunTsu> vsync_: btw. offtopic
[10:29] <Scott_S> !ot
[10:29] <vsync_> yeah soz
[10:30] <proxx8187> anyone need some support then.... bring it on :P
[10:30] <is_null> nothing is logged apparently
[10:30] <is_null> so i guess only the package maintainer is able to debug it, that's fantastic news
[10:30] <Humbedooh> Fudge, dumpe2fs /tmp ?
[10:32] <Fudge> i checked tail dmesg.0 and it said april 11
[10:33] <Fudge> Humbedooh  if thats about 170 dayss iguess it would be right
[10:33] <Humbedooh> or you could use uptime and then calculate it
[10:35] <osmosis> how do I fix the behavior of alt-tab  so that instead of the pop-up box, I get immediate cycling through the windows?
[10:36] <Humbedooh> osmosis, try ctrl tab?
[10:36] <Humbedooh> or alt gr tab
[10:37] <osmosis> Humbedooh, whats gr ?
 btw , i checked my card  from my xp box , and still nothing, its going back to the store :)
[10:41] <Humbedooh> osmosis, alt ground or some such
[10:41] <insectatorious> guys, 'buntu 10.04 - any way to set the Terminal Title to the last executed command?
[10:41] <Humbedooh> the button that says "Alt Gr"
[10:41] <Humbedooh> or if you have a windows button, that plus tab usually does fancy stuff
[10:45] <SunTsu> insectatorious: depends on your terminal and your shell, you better search for that
[10:46] <insectatorious> SunTsu: using gnome-terminal and bash
[10:48] <insectatorious> SunTsu: I'm guessing setting the profile of the terminal will be the simplest method?
[10:49] <Scott_S> Got an issue for you guys: Known to not be an ISP issue, no bandwidth issues on other devices, but this computer is experiencing ~500Kbps download speeds but 2.2Mbps upload speeds.
[10:50] <Scott_S> No downloads are running, there is no significant bandwidth being used, and the computer is connected via 100Mbps ethernet.
[10:51] <SunTsu> insectatorious: I don't know how to do that with gnome-terminal but good old aunt google might
[10:52] <nvz> you have an aunt named google?
[10:53] <SunTsu> nvz: it's everybody's aunt - and their cats', too
[10:53] <Jackneill> hi, can you help me?
[10:53] <insectatorious> SunTsu: The problem is, people on the WWW (accrd. to Google) simply want to set the title once and leave it at that. I need it to constantly reflect the last cmd
[10:53] <Stanley00> !ask | Jackneill
[10:54] <Jackneill> my ubuntu 11.10 automatically installed updates, after i restarted, but it wont start
[10:54] <SunTsu> insectatorious: then why did I get this as the first hit? http://serverfault.com/questions/69312/automatically-change-the-gnome-terminal-title-for-the-window
[10:54] <Jackneill> i got only the login screen, after i fill my password, enter, i got blank screen, after again the login screen
 did you check the md5sum before burning the image ?
[10:56] <Jackneill> proxx8187: i updated to 11.10 from 11.04, and the problem is with an update. After i installed the updates, i got the problem.
[10:56] <proxx8187> oke
[10:56] <SunTsu> insectatorious: actually _this_ shows how to do it automatically for every given shell: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Xterm-Title-4.html
 and can you use other session except 4 default ?
[10:57] <dr_willis> tldp.org  is so handy ;) even if a lot of the stuff is very old skoop
[10:57] <dr_willis> skool
[10:58] <Jackneill> proxx8187: i have many sessions, xfce, and default, but all buggy, for all i got blank screen after login, after again the login screen
 sounds like x server is a bitch, did you check graphic drivers ?
[10:59] <Jackneill> not yet, i dont know how to, and it was good before the update.
[10:59] <dr_willis> Jackneill:  as a test you could stop the login manager, and try 'startx' from the console and look for errors. also you could try making a new user see if they work for the new user
[10:59] <Jackneill> not to update to 11.10, just an update for some programs with the update manager
[10:59] <Stanley00> Jackneill: look likes some misconfig from old version had make that,you can try recovery mode, backup your home, clear youe config, and reboot again, then copy some config back
[10:59] <insectatorious> SunTsu: Thanks...need to improve my Google-Fu it appears....
[10:59] <Jackneill> dr_willis: ok
[11:00] <Jackneill> stanley00: how to do? :/
[11:00] <proxx8187> drop back to cli
[11:00] <Stanley00> Jackneill: just follow dr_willis first :D
[11:00] <Jackneill> ok
[11:00] <Jackneill> drop back to cli how to?
[11:00] <dr_willis> if it works for a new user. that shows its a user config issue
[11:00] <proxx8187> crtl-alt f1
[11:01] <proxx8187> or 2 ,3 ,4 etc
[11:01] <SunTsu> insectatorious: all I did was searching for "gnome-terminal set changing xterm title" - not too far-fetched, right?
[11:01] <Jackneill> thanks, i reboot now and i do it.
[11:01] <dr_willis>   sudo service lightdm stop        to close out x also
[11:01] <Jackneill> ok
[11:01] <dr_willis> you can irc from the console. ;0  irssi, or weechat
[11:02] <Jackneill> ok, thanks :)
[11:02] <Jackneill> can i switch on the cli ? more cli?
[11:02] <Jackneill> so f1, f2..and start irssi on f2
[11:02] <dr_willis> huh?
[11:02] <Stanley00> Jackneill: yes, you can
[11:02] <dr_willis> yes. you have 6 consoles
[11:02] <Jackneill> ok thx
[11:02] <dr_willis> or use screen
[11:05] <mischat> hi all, /me isn't an ubuntu user but someone who is is having problems using software I have written
[11:05] <mischat> what is the difference between zlibc and zlibg1
[11:05] <mischat> ?
[11:06] <iceroot> mischat: the difference is that zlibg1 is not in the repos
[11:06] <mischat> as in apt-get
[11:06] <mischat> ?
[11:07] <iceroot> mischat: apt-cache search
[11:07] <iceroot> !info zlibg1
[11:07] <mischat> sorry i am a centos/fedora user, and haven't played with ubuntu for a few years
[11:07] <iceroot> !info zlibc
[11:07] <mischat> i see
[11:07] <mischat> ah
[11:07] <mischat> zlib1g
[11:07] <mischat> sorry
[11:07] <mischat> !info zlib1g
[11:08] <mischat> that one
[11:08] <mischat> !info 4store
[11:08] <mischat> that is my software :) ^^
[11:08] <dr_willis> so.. the problem is?
[11:09] <mischat> !dep 4store
[11:09] <mischat> um
[11:09] <mischat> some ubuntu users it trying to install a newer version of 4store
[11:09] <mischat> from git
[11:09] <mischat> and is having problems with zlib
[11:09] <mischat> and they told me they are using zlib1g
[11:09] <mischat> am guessing that they should be using zlibc
[11:10] <dr_willis> he may need the -dev packages also
[11:10] <mischat> yeah
[11:10] <mischat> so would zlib1g-dev be the same as zlibc ?
[11:10] <mischat> !info zlibc-dev
[11:10] <mischat> so am guessing that zlibc has the header files
[11:10] <birdman_> I have a git hook that checks out the master branch to a www/ folder. How can I make sure all the files are of the www-data group?
[11:10] <dr_willis> mischat:  the 2 seem totally different from what the bot just said
[11:10] <mischat> yeah they do
[11:11] <mischat> thanks guys, i will ask the chappy to remove the zlib1g* stuff and to try with zlibc
[11:11] <dr_willis> so install both. install the dev packages for both.. ;)
[11:11] <mischat> ah yeah, good point
[11:11] <mischat> :)
[11:11] <mischat> is there a way to see what the apt dependencies for 4store in ubuntu are ?
[11:11] <mischat> on the web on using a bot in this room?
[11:12] <jackneill> hi from irssi
[11:12] <dr_willis> he could also use    sudo apt-get build-deps 4store          i think
[11:12] <jackneill> dr_willis: could not update iceauthority
[11:12] <dr_willis> or is it  sudo apt-get build-dep 4store          i think
[11:13] <dr_willis> jackneill:  seen others with that issue befor. never noticed a fix.
[11:13] <dr_willis> waset paying attention to them. ;)
[11:13] <jackneill> sorry:)
[11:13] <joancito> Hi all, sorry for the interruption. But in my office we have several computers with ubuntu 11.10 that since yesterday the wifi stopped to work and the compyter freeze. I need to disable the wireless interface to make the computer work again. Anyone is having the same issue?
[11:13] <jackneill> can i notice him then?
[11:13] <dr_willis> i ber the forums and askubuntu.com got  info on it
[11:14] <jackneill> ok
[11:14] <dr_willis> joancito:  identical computers? what wireless?
[11:14] <mischat> anyways thanks guys dr_willis and iceroot
[11:15]  * mischat will try and figure out what the problem is …
[11:15] <dr_willis> mischat:  that build-dep option should pull in needed stuff
[11:15]  * mischat waves happy holidays and stuff to all the ubuntu folk!
[11:17] <joancito> All of them are HP Probook 5330m, the wireless interface is broadcom 4313.
[11:17] <ribot> hey, how can i make the shel program screen display window information in the bottom of the display?
[11:17] <mischat> yeah was more thinking if i could see them on the web
[11:17] <mischat> again thanks all /me will lurk here for a bit
[11:18] <dr_willis> ribot:  use byobu, or a fancy bash prompt.
[11:18] <jackneill> how can i install the nv module for xorg?
[11:18] <dr_willis> gotta run. bbl
[11:19] <almoxarife> jackneill: assuming 'nv' is nvidia, install nvidia-current
[11:20] <jackneill> ok
[11:20] <jackneill> but got: it's already the newest version
[11:21] <jackneill> but xorg fails to load cause nv is doesnt exist
[11:22] <almoxarife> jackneill: lost you, is nvidia-current installed?
[11:22] <jackneill> almoxarife: already.
[11:22] <mischat> as per http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/4store <-- it seems to depend on the zlib1g and not zlibc
[11:22] <jackneill> but xorg fails to load, cause nv is doesnt exist
[11:22] <almoxarife> jackneill: and configured?
[11:22] <mischat> will have to find the dude which packaged up the ubuntu-ness
[11:23] <jackneill> almoxarife: it was already configured, i am using 11.10 and just update some things with update manager, and after restart the xorg fails to load: "could not update iceauthority file..." and from the console i got nv doesnt exist
[11:30] <insectatorious> SunTsu: you're right....
[11:32] <lotrpy> ikonia, i don't know , how to check if zabbix-mysql-server depends on fping or not. I already apt-get install zabbix-mysql-server before I apt-get install fping.
[11:32] <ikonia> lotrpy: let it remove it, then re-install zabbix-mysql-server see if it pulls it back in, easy / quick way to test
[11:36] <lotrpy> ikonia, thanks, and it remove it and ask if I want to remove the mysql table of zabbix, i choose no, and reinstall zabbix_server_mysql, it looks fine at the moment. but i thinks maybe it's too aggresive to remove zabbix_mysql_server, when one just remove fping(fping's function is only a tiny part of zabbix server, and it's optional)
[11:37] <xjiujiu> My ubuntu become very slow,recently.I just mount some NTFS part of another disk on the system start.
[11:39] <Guest67112> Hi all
[11:39] <Malamen> someone knos a x.400 mail client to download messages from a x.400 server ?
[11:40] <DOP__> Hi guys. Is there a way of installing ubuntu using sysv instead of upstart?
[11:42] <pzn> where can I find a deb file from older ubuntu karmic?
[11:42] <Gorilla_No_Baka> ubuntu packages  pzn
[11:42] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[11:43] <pzn> Gorilla_No_Baka, didn't receive any message from bot
[11:43] <Gorilla_No_Baka> pzn:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/  here's your packages
[11:44] <aldin> hi, is it possible to set title bar close, min, max buttons always visible - not hoverable on ubuntu 11.10?
[11:44] <conntrack> You can tell it is Christmas
[11:45] <Gorilla_No_Baka> aldin:  yeah .. apt-get install gnome-shell and set the fallback
[11:45] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[11:45] <DOP__> ununtu could be a more sensible alternative to debian... if only it could be possible to install it without upstart :(
[11:45] <DOP__> shame
[11:45] <Gorilla_No_Baka> them button will be always visible
[11:45] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[11:46] <ManUb> hi guys, how to make file like ./run? I want this file to be running some.sh file
[11:46] <aldin> Gorilla_No_Baka: :) i liked unity on 11.04 which has always has it visible
[11:46] <Malamen> Please. someone know a x.400 mail client to download messages from a x.400 server?
[11:47] <aldin> ManUb: put it in /usr/bin foder and mak it executable
[11:47] <Gorilla_No_Baka> aldin:  well good luck with your unity... unless you run ubuntu on a tablet unity is useless.. a cheap knock off copy of  gnome 3
[11:47] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[11:48] <ManUb> aldin : o ic. Thanks. I'll try it :D
[11:48] <aldin> Gorilla_No_Baka: cant make gnome3 menu always visible? it is annoying all the time move cursor left up corner
[11:48] <Gorilla_No_Baka> yes .. fallback mode
[11:49] <Gorilla_No_Baka> that's what i am running now
[11:49] <aldin> Gorilla_No_Baka: in fallback mode i dont have snap mode which i use very often
[11:49] <Gorilla_No_Baka> well, i personally can live without it..  unfortunately there are people that can not
[11:50] <aldin> Gorilla_No_Baka: yap :)
[11:50] <Gorilla_No_Baka>  if you ask me .. instead of completly change gnome 3 they should have spent some time to fix EACH AND EVERY  bug gnome 2 had.. y'know..?!
[11:51] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: sometimes a rewrite is faster than fixing bugs
[11:51] <pzn> Gorilla_No_Baka, ubuntu karmic is not available on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:51] <Gorilla_No_Baka> that's true SunTsu ..
[11:51] <Gorilla_No_Baka> pzn:  stand by
[11:51] <Humbedooh> yay, managed to screw up networking service so I couldn't use my server :<
[11:52] <Gorilla_No_Baka> pzn:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/allpackages
[11:53] <Malamen> Please. someone know a x.400 mail client to download messages from a x.400 server?
[11:53] <Malamen> anyone?
[11:53] <Humbedooh> x.400 o.O
[11:53] <Humbedooh> old stuff :>
[11:53] <Malamen> I know its very old
[11:54] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu:  looks like the here document had a problem with the eof white space.. it took me a while to figure it out.. However it will still not write to /etc/x11  .. i will enable root login  and i will try to run it from root.. to see if it makes any change
[11:54] <Malamen> we have this here at work and i need to replace the window client for a linux client the x.400 messages
[11:55] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: it should write to a temporary file and copy that over your existing file, replacing it
[11:55] <nitiab> i am having trouble connecting to freenode using all my irc clients, from kvirc or irssi to pidgin, seems like they are unable to resolve even the name, plus i am getting absolutely no output at all if i try to ping the irc servers. any ideas ? using the webchat now
[11:55] <itsmorefun> Entrez le texte ici...
[11:56] <dr_willis> nitiab:  try connecting via the ip of the server? if that works. that would point to a dns issue.
[11:56] <pzn> Gorilla_No_Baka, the page exists, however when I click over a link, it opens nothing :-(
[11:56] <Gorilla_No_Baka> i know.. i read your stuff trough... i looked some more on internet..  the script works.. however .. when it comes to writting to /etc/X11 it's a stubborn bastard
[11:56] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[11:56] <Gorilla_No_Baka> pzn:  wow...
[11:57] <pzn> Gorilla_No_Baka, I'll try to download deb package from lucid instead of karmic... let's see if it works :-)
[11:57] <Gorilla_No_Baka> than you ARE  screwed
[11:57] <Gorilla_No_Baka> you will run  into dependecyes hell
[11:57] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :(
[11:58] <pzn> Gorilla_No_Baka, archive.debian.org keeps a copy of all debian released (it looks like a museum). why ubuntu doesn't do that?
[11:58] <freko28> hi all, can someone help me with gparted? I want to separate my /dev/sda1 partition (370Go) to add a second partition (10Go of DATA). Anyone can give my the parted cmd line for my problem?
[11:58] <Gorilla_No_Baka> well.. first of all because they want you to use the latest anf the greatest.. :)
[11:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> second.. because they can't be bovvered
[11:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[11:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> third... and the list goes on and on. :)
[11:59] <SunTsu> pzn: prolly because people would expect to have support on those. And probably because you really don't want to spread stuff that has lots of potential security holes
[11:59] <Gorilla_No_Baka> forth.. SunTsu  got it right
[11:59] <conntrack> haha
[12:00] <dr_willis> I thought there was some 'archive' ubuntu server that had all the old releases
[12:00] <dr_willis> !eol
[12:00] <dr_willis> normally people need it when trying to upgrade EOL releases
[12:00] <Gorilla_No_Baka> but the question is.. : WHY WOUld they create packages with lots of potential security risks in the first place?
[12:01] <nitiab> thanks dr_willis , that did it , but now how do i get about fixing up this ? use a third party dns server like the google's?
[12:01] <dr_willis> nitiab:  i normally use googles dns, and opendns (one of each) :)
[12:01] <dr_willis> nitiab:  could be a temp issue with your isp's servers
[12:01] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: uhm, because software has bugs, and stuff gets fixed in newer releases - which go into newer ubuntu releases and are not backported to eol ones
[12:02] <pzn> Gorilla_No_Baka, SunTsu: I "shrinked" a ubuntu karmic to fit into a 32Mb compact flash card, for using it in a i386 compatible hardware... now I want to add a new package and I'm screwed :-)
[12:02] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu:  that's a nice dipomatic answer..
[12:02] <Humbedooh> pzn: that's just...silly
[12:02] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: it's the utter truth. People make mistakes, and code tends to be more buggy the more complex it gets
[12:02] <Gorilla_No_Baka> pzn.. consider upgrading.. ... it is well worth it..
[12:02] <ssspark> Hi guys! I just installed 11.10, it looks pretty great. Now I'm trying to redirect my sound output to a network pulseaudio-server. However, nothing is showing up.. what is the way to make ubuntu scan the network for sound devices?
[12:02] <nitiab> i don't know dr_willis its been this way for days, some irc servers are working just fine ... like icq, but irc.ubuntu.com and irc.freenode.net are blacklisted ? :O
[12:03] <Humbedooh> SunTsu, that should be in the revised edition of the Art of War...
[12:03] <freko28> plz I want to separate my /dev/sda1 partition (370Go) to add a partition (10Go of DATA). Anyone can give my the parted cmd line for my problem?
[12:03] <fj5> hello, everyone
[12:03] <fj5> xubuntu now
[12:03] <Humbedooh> freko28, you want to first shrink the original partition?
[12:04] <freko28> yes Humbedooh
[12:04] <Humbedooh> well then rtfm :) section 2.4.13 of the parted manual
[12:04] <Humbedooh> should tell you what to do
[12:04] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu: true.. so why can they let it be..  I mean.. i personally love icewm and open box.. but my first love is icewm.. I actually run my ubuntu on icewm and gnome3 fallback... you can not beat icewm.. you wanna modd something.. no probs.. it 's all there .. in plain .txt files /.xml files.. no need to go mental trying to figure out which is what
[12:05] <pzn> Gorilla_No_Baka, well... it is a hard work to "upgrade", since my shrinked ubuntu does not have space for dpkg, apt... just 32Mb of harddrive :-) I'll try to compile what I need from sources and put it there.
[12:05] <Gorilla_No_Baka> gnome 2 was nice
[12:05] <Gorilla_No_Baka>  they had to muck it up
[12:05] <dr_willis> gnome 2 had issues... but this is not really related to 'ubuntu support questions'
[12:05] <SunTsu> Gorilla_No_Baka: we're running in circles and getting more and more offtopic
[12:05] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu:  :))
[12:05] <Humbedooh> gnomes are cute
[12:06] <dr_willis> I will say that Lubuntu 11.10 has gotten very very good.
[12:06] <Humbedooh> it's gotten better at least ;)
[12:07]  * Gorilla_No_Baka agrees with Humbedooh
[12:07] <evalentin> Hi there, I had a dual boot system with other OS in the first partition and a ubuntu 11.10 on the remaining of the disk. the ubuntu installation was done with lvm ontop of luks. now I want to get rid of the other OS from the beggining of the harddrive and make it part of the existing lvm. what is the safest way of doing it? I though of just going ahead and setupping the luks on the first partition, then creating the pv and adding the pv to th
[12:07] <freko28> Humbedooh, but I can't work on the 1 partition when it's mounting?
[12:07] <loljban> what is the command to find out the directory I am in on Ubuntu?
[12:08] <loljban> Like the path i mean
[12:08] <dr_willis> loljban:  'pwd'
[12:08] <dr_willis> print working directory
[12:08] <Humbedooh> freko28, did you try a rescue boot?
[12:08] <freko28> no
[12:08] <loljban> dr_willis, thanks
[12:08] <Humbedooh> otherwise you should probably try making a live CD and then do the resizing from that
[12:08] <krey_> hello, apt-get and aptitude install don't work anymore (11.10), when I try to install package it crashes, help please
[12:08]  * Humbedooh has new ink, shall be away
[12:08] <freko28> I've Installed Ubuntu on all my disk and now I wan't to add a second partition
[12:09] <Malamen>  X.400 messages. Anyone know a client ?
[12:09] <dr_willis> freko28:  if you used up all your disk.. you mean you want to resize the existing partions, shrink one. and create a new partiion?
[12:10] <freko28> yes but how can I do this? with a live cd?
[12:10] <dr_willis> freko28:  live cd and gparted. would be the easy way.
[12:10] <Humbedooh> burn a live cd and boot on it
[12:10] <dr_willis> freko28:  make backups of anything imporntant first in any case.
[12:11] <freko28> ok thx
[12:11] <gribouille> hi
[12:11] <dr_willis> there is a specific 'gparted live cd' you can get if you  just want a cd specifically for resizeing, and other tasks. it will be smaller and boot faster then a ubuntu live cd.
[12:11] <gribouille> is firefox 9 available for oneiric?
[12:11] <dr_willis> but you most likely allready have a ubuntu live cd laying about. :)
[12:11] <dr_willis> gribouille:  heard its comming.. not noticed it yet.
[12:12] <gribouille> ok
[12:12]  * dr_willis updates and upgrades and looks
[12:12] <krey_> also, I cleaned my cache just before it broke, might be related
[12:12] <dr_willis> dont see it today.. unless its allready there.
[12:12] <dr_willis> krey_:  cleaned how?
[12:13] <gribouille> dr_willis, whicj repository will provide firefox 9?
[12:13] <krey_> dr_willis: sudo apt-get clean
[12:13] <gribouille> dr_willis, which repository will provide firefox 9?
[12:13] <krey_> dr_willis: upgrade doesn't work either :S
[12:13] <dr_willis> !info firefox
[12:13] <krey_> dr_willis: all I get is "Reading package list... Done" then it returns
[12:13] <dr_willis> gribouille:  ive heard its to be in the standard repos.
[12:14] <SunTsu> I wonder why it's not in there yet, it's a security fix
[12:14] <gribouille> dr_willis, where did you hear this?
[12:14] <dr_willis> gribouille:  various ubuntu blog sites. webupd8 and omgubuntu most likely
[12:14] <dr_willis> those are about the only 2 i read.
[12:15] <Humbedooh> gribouille, you could always check out the aurora branch :)
[12:15] <iceroot> SunTsu: its not only a security-update, its also a major update so it needs some testing
[12:15] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/firefox-9-released-with-improved.html
[12:15] <dr_willis> Firefox 9 will be available as a security update via the official repositories for Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot and 11.04 Natty Narwhal users,
[12:15] <SunTsu> iceroot: yeah, only that ff doesn't do minor upgrades anymore
[12:15] <fj5> is xfce or gnome 2 better
[12:15] <dr_willis> fj5:  depends on your needs.
[12:16] <SunTsu> fj5: with gnome2 gone...
[12:16] <gribouille> Humbedooh, no, thanks
[12:16] <dr_willis> fj5:  given that gnome2 is basically dead..
[12:16] <fj5> really
[12:16] <dr_willis> fj5:  lxde may also be worth looking at.
[12:16] <fj5> thanks
[12:16] <SunTsu> yup, quite for a while now
[12:16] <krey_> sudo aptitude does "Ouch! Got SIGSEGV, dying.."
[12:17] <fj5> I use my old IBM X32, seem a little slow.
[12:17] <iceroot> SunTsu: i know but that is not a reason to put major updates directly in the repos
[12:17] <CaT_MaN> is it possible when use NFS to define event on requested file that is not found
[12:17] <SunTsu> iceroot: I know, I mostly frown at ff for it's stupid versioning policy
[12:17] <krey_> dr_willis: solved, cache got corrupted (dunno how) manual removal fixed it
[12:17] <dr_willis> fj5:  lubuntu is about the lightest desktop  these days without giving up normally wanted functions.
[12:18] <gribouille> is the repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable available for oneiric?
[12:18] <fj5> I don't know which one I should choose for my old IBM X32.
[12:18] <iceroot> fj5: lxde/lubuntu-desktop
[12:18] <dr_willis> gribouille:  add it and see? it should work i imagine
[12:19] <fj5> maybe xubuntu or lubuntu, or just the latest ubuntu.
[12:19] <fj5> lubuntu? thanks iceroot.
[12:19] <dr_willis> gribouille:  site says it should work...
[12:19] <gribouille> dr_willis, I did it, but //ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu/dists/oneiric doesn't exists
[12:19] <dr_willis> fj5:  whats the specs of the machine?
[12:19] <iceroot> fj5: lubuntu-desktop is the metapackage to install lxde (which is imo the only usable desktop for linux at the momemt)
[12:20] <txomon> hi, any screen recorder for ubuntu (11.10)
[12:20] <gribouille> dr_willis, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/firefox-9-released-with-improved.html says it exixts for lucid and mverick
[12:20] <dr_willis> txomon:  several in the repos.. recordmydesktop is a popular one.
[12:20] <dr_willis> Firefox 9 will be available as a security update via the official repositories for Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot and 11.04 Natty Narwhal users, but if you don't want to wait, you can already install it by using the Ubuntu Mozilla Security PPA:
[12:20] <txomon> dr_willis, not working well enough, gets blocked
[12:20] <fj5> dr_willis, CPU: 2.0GHz, 2G ram
[12:21] <fj5> no, 1G ram
[12:21] <dr_willis> fj5:  depending on your video card. that should handle ubuntu/unity decently. but lubuntu is more lighter, and old-skool :)
[12:22] <fj5> dr_willis, the video card is just 16M, so it's really old.
[12:22] <dr_willis> fj5:  egads...
[12:22] <dr_willis> ;)
[12:22] <dr_willis> time to learn the console!
[12:22] <fj5> haha
[12:22] <dr_willis> Lubuntu would what i would try.
[12:23] <dr_willis> what brand video card/chipset is it?
[12:23] <fj5> let me have a think
[12:23] <fj5> ATI M6
[12:23]  * dr_willis hopes its not a SiS
[12:23] <dr_willis> ;)
[12:24] <fj5> ATI Mobility Radeon M6 LY
[12:24] <dr_willis> give lubuntu a shot and see.. thats about all we can say.
[12:24] <fj5> OKAY
[12:24] <fj5> lubuntu, I'll try it.
[12:24] <txomon> dr_willis, any working screen recorder? I mean, under active development etc.
[12:25] <dr_willis> txomon:  ive only used recordmydesktop, and someone mentioned xvidcapture (i think) today
[12:26] <fj5> dr_willis, which one u use now, pl.
[12:27] <dr_willis> fj5:  neither..
[12:27] <dr_willis> I found a little hardware gizmo for $20 that recoreds video out straight to sd card. :)
[12:28] <Guest2947> Hi guys, I need to clone Ubuntu server 8.10, running SVN and Redmine, to be put offline for testing the backup integrity
[12:28] <Guest2947> Can anyone help?
[12:28] <eutheria> when i login using gnome session classic i end up with a broken session, i have to restart lightdm to get back to a working classic session and login again
[12:28] <iceroot> Guest2947: so you needa complete dump of the system?
[12:30] <dr_willis> Guest2947:  how are you going to be testing it?
[12:30] <Guest2947> iceroot: That's right, I will not need them to be online on the same network in the same time. But the gotcha here is that the new machine is different, hardware wise
[12:30] <Gorilla_No_Baka> SunTsu:  it's working .. but only from the root account!  I though you might wanna know
[12:31] <vip_> hi.can someone help me please?how to display at terminal or conky avialable packages or updates?
[12:31] <Guest2947> dr_willis: on a different network
[12:31] <dr_willis> vip_:  like the # avail? like a console login does?
[12:31] <Gorilla_No_Baka> i enabled root login and i ran the script from there and it's worked
[12:31] <vip_> yes please
[12:31] <dr_willis> Guest2947:  you could test it in a virtualbox setup.
[12:31] <iceroot> Guest2947: different hardware = different hdd-size?
[12:32] <Guest2947> iceroot: Yes, but bigger
[12:32] <dr_willis> vip_:  theres some command/service/script that puts that info in the motd. I looked into it once ages ago.  you ran the command it would print 'x# of packages to update' and so forth. but i cent recall the command or service name.,
[12:32] <iceroot> vip_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -s  to see available updates
[12:32] <dr_willis> vip_:  it was part of the MOTD package/scripts i recall
[12:34] <Guest2947> dr_willis: How do I clone it to VitualBox? Is there a p2v for VirtualBox?
[12:34] <tp43> who needs swap, it never gets used
[12:34] <dr_willis> vip_:  perhaps --> $ /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available
[12:34] <dr_willis> Guest2947:  the vbox docs mention how to convert a real hd to a virtual hd. been ages sinve ive done it
[12:34] <iceroot> tp43: tell that to suspend-to-ram
[12:35] <tp43> iceroot, how much memory does suspend to ram take? How can you check, is there way to save your swap usage history?
[12:35] <Guest2947> dr_willis: will check, 10x a lot
[12:36] <keda87> what is the best editor for python for maverick?
[12:36] <iceroot> !best | keda87
[12:36] <dr_willis> keda87:  geany is a popular 'programers' text editor
[12:36] <vip_> I have that code in conky but this not working properly:${execi 1800 apt-get upgrade "~U" | wc -l | tail}
[12:36] <iceroot> keda87: and of course the answer is vim
[12:37] <Guest2947> dr_willis: but if they will insist on doing it with the new computer, without virtualization, what are the other choices?
[12:37] <dr_willis> Guest2947:  you can clone one hd to the other systems via creative use of dd, or other ways.
[12:37] <keda87> i want editor like netbeans any simply run and compile quicly
[12:38] <ubuntu> can anyone help me with repairing GRUB?
[12:38] <dr_willis> keda87:  try geany perhaps.
[12:38] <dr_willis> !ide
[12:38] <keda87> oke thanks for advice
[12:38] <dr_willis> !ide
[12:38] <tp43> ubuntu, I think you can use the debian install disk to re-install grub
[12:38] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[12:38] <tp43> ubuntu, sorry the ubuntu install disk
[12:39] <arthurscience> I have ubuntu live on usb stick
[12:39] <arthurscience> that's what I'm running right now
[12:40] <dr_willis> theres some repair-grub tool you can install.
[12:40] <dr_willis> depends on how you broke it also. :)
[12:40] <arthurscience> I've tried installing the boot-repair gui and it fails to unpack
[12:40] <Guest2947> dr_willis: but will it work with the new hardware?
[12:40] <arthurscience> stops at about 35%
[12:41] <arthurscience> so I tried to reinstall grub manually through the terminal
[12:41] <dr_willis> Guest2947:  ive moved ubuntu installs  across a wide range of hardware, and have had very few issues.
[12:41] <dr_willis> Guest2947:  try it and see.. is the bottom line.
[12:42] <dr_willis> Guest2947:  had issues with for example moving  from pc 1 to pc2 both using nvidia video cards.. BUT the cards differning in what version of the drivers they needed.. thats about the biggest issue ive had.
[12:42] <dr_willis> Guest2947:  also the uuid's in /etc/fstab may need to be corrected.
[12:42] <chroot> hi, i installed goldendict , and how can i add a dictionary to goldendict?
[12:42] <arthurscience> I've tried following this ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1690964
[12:42] <chroot> i want to look up words offline.
[12:43] <Guest2947> dr_willis: thank you, will try.
[12:44] <arthurscience> also ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:45] <arthurscience> all to no avail
[12:46] <dr_willis> any error messages or details you care to give?
[12:46] <dr_willis> about all ive ever needed to do was       sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/InstalledSystemMointPoint /dev/sda --recheck
[12:49] <psychognite> /dev/sda is disk contains our OS..??
[12:49] <DeltaEpsilon> are there native gtk3 Banshee alternative for ubuntu?
[12:50] <DeltaEpsilon> Psychobudgie, /dev/sda is your first hdd and is not necessary containing your OS. Most of the time it does
[12:50] <arthurscience> dr_willis: sure, I just don't want to overload you and I'm not always sure how to filter what is relevant
[12:50] <Stanley00> DeltaEpsilon: did you try rhythmbox? it will be default in 12.04
[12:51] <arthurscience> dr_willis: I tried using sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt && sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[12:52] <arthurscience> hm
[12:52] <arthurscience> I may have gotten it to work
[12:53] <dr_willis> arunce:  your boot directory is tehn in  /mnt/boot correct?
[12:53] <arthurscience> I ran sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[12:54] <arthurscience> I may have accidentally said sda5 before and that's why it didn't work...also, instead of going straight to live environment this time I went to installation and canceled...not sure if that makes a diffence but the environment is a bit different
[12:55] <yusak> hy
[12:55] <Starcraftmazter> is there any guide yet on how to make 11.10 look like 11.04?
[12:55] <Starcraftmazter> while using gnome
[12:56] <deej1976> !notunity | Starcraftmazter
[12:58] <Starcraftmazter> cheers
[13:01] <dr_willis> Starcraftmazter:  some info on tweaking it at the webupd8 and omgubuntu sites also.
[13:07] <chroot> hi, how to add a dict to goldendict ,
[13:09] <Marezz> hey folks, whats the name of gui tool for switching keyboard layout?
[13:10] <ahmad> a
[13:10] <ahmad> a
[13:10] <ahmad> hai ada orang indonesia disini??
[13:11] <ultrixx> what?
[13:11] <mang0> Anyone here with experiance with ffscreencast? https://launchpad.net/ffscreencast I can't get it to work. Look at the most recent bug report for my problem....I submitted it.
[13:23] <cablop> i got an annoying problem
[13:23] <cablop> my keyboard in ubuntu has an INSANE annoying delay
[13:24] <TheHackOps> sup i can't roll back to an old kernal version
[13:24] <TheHackOps> sup i can't roll back to an old kernal version no matter what i do
[13:25] <sattu94> How can I import a Vcard, .vcf file into abook?
[13:26] <cablop> it seems today people is asking and no one answering xD
[13:27] <Tech-1> its the holidays, people are out and about
[13:27] <Malamen>  X.400 messages. Anyone knows a client. please ?
[13:27] <TheHackOps> It's getting so anoying i have a graphics problem and i need to roll back before the update but i can't get the grub menu to show no matter what i do
[13:29] <evalentin> anyone knows how to deploy a new encrypted disk / partition on existing lvm?
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:31] <cablop> evalentin, willing to clone the / partition on the same or in a different lvm?
[13:31] <leo2007> Can someone paste me the contents of the pdb script?
[13:32] <leo2007> TIA
[13:32] <cablop> i need to replace that bad jokes that are gnome and unity
[13:32] <jason> hello?
[13:32] <cablop> can kde deal ok with lightdm?
[13:34] <Guest51833> any1?
[13:35] <evalentin> cablop: actually, I am stuck will simple thing. I have an existing lvm on top of luks. / runs on a lv from that lvm on the entire disk. works fine. now I have an extra disk. want it encrypted. this part is ok. have added even the pv to the vg. but now, I don't know to make the proper boot setup. I am afraid of resizing the root file system and getting a farty failure after 1st reboot.
[13:35] <cablop> evalentin: firt thing, don't do it on hot
[13:35] <cablop> hehe
[13:36] <cablop> i crashed my system that way
[13:36] <DeltaEpsilon> why is thunderbird the default email client instead of Evolution?
[13:36] <evalentin> :-)
[13:36] <cablop> afaik, you can resizze the filesystem, i used the visual lvm tools on ubuntu for that, but i suggest you to ise them from another linux or a live cd
[13:37] <P> hi
[13:38] <abstrus> Hi everyone !  I bought a USB wifi device from netgear (wna3100v1).  I managed to install the XP driver through ndiswrapper fine.  I now can see my router, etc.  My problem is when I try to connect to it, it hangs during "configuring interface" and fail with "awaiting for authorisation".  Any idea ?
[13:40] <evalentin> cablop: ok. but before the resize step, I believe I am failing at an early step: getting the new enc. disk setup properly during boot. Because I want it to participate on the lvm of where the / resides, I believe it must be setup in the initramfs. Using /etc/crypttab seams not the right way, because it asks for the passphrase way late, when the system is already running (a part from the bug of asking it and not waiting for me to type it, and
[13:40] <evalentin> that I dunno how to do it
[13:40] <DeltaEpsilon> why is thunderbird the default email client instead of Evolution?
[13:41] <Tech-1> you can change it
[13:41] <evalentin> cablop: any hint?
[13:42] <Shalabayzer> Hi everybody
[13:42] <j111> Hi
[13:42] <Shalabayzer> Has anyone deployed irc server on Ub?
[13:43] <Shalabayzer> j111: Hi
[13:43] <evalentin> cablop: one easy way out would be to mount the new disk and make it available somewhere at /media/ but that breaks the whole idea of lvm :-)
[13:44] <yacc> What's the correct way to remove a kernel module from the initramfs?
[13:45] <Shalabayzer> yacc: Gentoo?
[13:46] <d8bhatta> When I leave ubuntu for 10  minutes, display goes off but computer seems running. Then if I move mouse or press keyboad, the display doesn't resume. Can somebody  suggest me what should I do to keep display even I am  not using computer for 1 hours or so. Note: I have set display option, I have set do nothng 'when display is closed' and ' suspend when inactive for '.
[13:47] <yacc> Shalabayzer, lol, issue being that I want to try a different ATA driver, ahci.ko seems to corrupt data from time to time, ...
[13:49] <Shalabayzer> yacc: I don't have a clue actually but you probably already browsed this http://wiki.debian.org/InitramfsDebug
[13:53] <ivanbajr> bom dia
[13:53] <ajen010> I'm trying to get postfix working but I get errors as at http://pastebin.com/rnk2dmeC. The postfix chat room said I should lookup apparmor and come here. I ran apparmor_status as root and got a bash: apparmor_status: command not found. I'm running 11.04.
[13:53] <yacc> Shalabayzer, well, I've got two solutions, although both are a little bit, well, how say, hardcore. Manually patching by unpacking, rm, repacking the initrd, and later on one can easily enough add a custom script to initramfs tools, but I'd guess there should be a way to manage that without that kind of surgery.
[13:54] <Shalabayzer> yacc: That's way too complicated...there has to be a simple solution ;)
[13:59] <Shalabayzer> yacc: Is this the procedure you want to do? http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/Initramfs
[14:01] <Diego> Oi
[14:02] <Diego> Alguém do BR aí !!
[14:02] <kvarley> Does anybody know of an application that would let me have window snapping when using OpenBox?
[14:05] <Guest23998> ciao
[14:07] <Shalabayzer> ALOHA
[14:07] <M1> is it safe to remove the "Update manager" from ubuntu?
[14:07] <TiMiDo> ALOHA Shalabayzer
[14:07] <iceroot> M1: why you want that?
[14:07] <Shalabayzer> TiMiDo: wazzup?
[14:08] <ubuntu-for-me> i want to ask a qustion that if there's any channel that could improve my english and funny?
[14:09] <M1> iceroot: I don't need it, it's sort of an embedded system that I update with aptitide over ssh anyway
[14:09] <TiMiDo> nothing much here programming on Python
[14:09] <TiMiDo> and your self Shalabayzer
[14:09] <TheHackOps> Anyone here that knows about rolling back to an old kernal version/update ??
[14:09] <ikonia> TheHackOps: the old kernel should still be on your system, just select it from the grub menu
[14:09] <ikonia> ubuntu-for-me: ##english
[14:10] <Shalabayzer> TiMiDo: wasting my time 'till it's 4 pm and time to go home for holidays :D
[14:10] <ubuntu-for-me> ikonia, thank you
[14:10] <TheHackOps> ikonia, I can't force the grub menu to show no matter what i do...
[14:10] <TheHackOps> ikonia, Tried alot of stuff
[14:10] <ikonia> TheHackOps: "force the grub menu"? ?
[14:11] <TheHackOps> ikonia, i have changed the /boot/grub/menu.lst to show grub menu at boot
[14:11] <TheHackOps> nothing at all
[14:11] <ikonia> TheHackOps: what version of ubuntu are you using
[14:11] <TheHackOps> ikonia, 10.10
[14:12] <ikonia> is ubuntu 10.10 grub1 or grub2....
[14:12] <TheHackOps> Uhh Grub2 i think
[14:12] <ikonia> TheHackOps: that's why menu.lst isn't working,
[14:12] <ikonia> TheHackOps: that's no longer a valid file in grub2
[14:12] <TheHackOps> ikonia, where is the file i change?
[14:12] <ikonia> TheHackOps: boot the machine, select the right kernel from the grub menu, that will boot what you want
[14:13] <TheHackOps> ikonia, Menu = NO SHOW
[14:13] <ikonia> TheHackOps: hold down escape
[14:13] <TheHackOps> ikonia, Can't will enter boot menu then when i continue with boot it just shows like E^
[14:13] <TheHackOps> if i hold it down
[14:13] <ikonia> TheHackOps: what?
[14:14] <TheHackOps> Ill try ur idea but i think i have many times
[14:14] <ikonia> TheHackOps: if you hold down escape it shows the grub menu
[14:14] <TheHackOps> brb
[14:14] <TheHackOps> let me try
[14:14] <jutnux> ikonia: Do you run Ubuntu or some other derivative?
[14:15] <IngoPaN> http://amzn.to/AmznCyberMonday  Amazon Gutschein 10 Eur : AMZNXMAS2011
[14:15] <jutnux> Or an entirely different OS?
[14:15] <ikonia> jutnux: what does it matter
[14:15] <ikonia> IngoPaN: please don't spam
[14:15] <IngoPaN> no spam. sorry
[14:15] <ikonia> TheHackOps: it's shift, not escape
[14:15] <ikonia> TheHackOps: sorry, shift key
[14:16] <jutnux> ikonia: Was just wondering.
[14:16] <tj2> does anybody have experience getting a touch screen to work under ubuntu 10.10?
[14:16] <ikonia> TheHackOps: sorry, it is the shift key, not the escape key you need
[14:16] <TheHackOps> Didn't work at all
[14:17] <TheHackOps> Cheers
[14:17] <TheHackOps> Be back again Hehehehehe
[14:17] <ikonia> TheHackOps: I told you the wrong key, my mistake
[14:17] <TheHackOps> ikonia, LUV U man its all good
[14:17] <ikonia> TheHackOps: great,
[14:17] <TheHackOps> :)
[14:17] <TheHackOps> brb
[14:18] <omid> i'm downloading ubuntu 10.04 cause ubuntu 11.10 sucked on my machine
[14:18] <Wolfsherz> omid: why did it suck?
[14:18] <ikonia> omid: why are you telling us this ?
[14:18] <ikonia> omid: it's up to you what you use, we don't care
[14:18] <omid> i had unusual bugs with it
[14:19] <omid> ikonia, i wanna tell the developers that unity has unusual problems on some hardware
[14:19] <ikonia> omid: log a bug on launchpad.net then
[14:19] <omid> i reported some bugs and posted on forums
[14:19] <ikonia> omid: ok, then they know
[14:19] <ikonia> omid: if you reported bugs on launchpad.net - they are informed
[14:19] <omid> i believe 10.04 is better for me
[14:19] <ikonia> omid: ok, use what you want, it doesn't matter to us
[14:20] <omid> i wanted to ask some questions . dont shot at me .
[14:20] <ikonia> omid: then ask them,
[14:20] <omid> first of all . as you know ubuntu 10.04 is 2 years old. does it means i have to download lots of updates ?
[14:20] <Tzunamii> haha
[14:20] <ikonia> omid: you will have updates available to you, you don't have to download them
[14:21] <TheHackOps> Yay Fixed my le problemo
[14:21] <TheHackOps> High five :_)
[14:21] <lenzi> where can i get the ppd file for HP-LaserJet-100-colorMFP-M175a model?
[14:21] <Pici> omid: And keep in mind that they will be security updates, you won't be seeing the same program versions that you did in 11.10
[14:21] <omid> another one is that can i install the newest software using ubuntu software center?for example i know that ubuntu 10.04 comes with openoffice.org . is the latest libreoffice version available in ubuntu software center for 10.04 ?
[14:22] <Pici> omid: no
[14:22] <Pici> !latest | omid
[14:22] <omid> so i'm forced to use old software ?
[14:22] <TheHackOps> The guy that was helping me Cheers man ur da bomb
[14:22] <ikonia> TheHackOps: no problem
[14:22] <Wolfsherz> omid: you are not forced to use anything at all.
[14:22] <Pici> omid: You're not forced to do anything. You are using an older release which has older packages.
[14:23] <lenzi> where can i get the ppd file for HP-LaserJet-100-colorMFP-M175a model?
[14:23] <TheHackOps> ikonia, Never updated without something breaking this time is was a screen lag problem so i think ill never update again
[14:23] <ikonia> ok
[14:24] <omid> i had lots of problems with 11.10 . some of them were really unusual. when i touched my laptop's full plastik palmrest my windows moved between virtual desktops for no appearant reason while the mouse and touchpad sensitivity was on its lowest .
[14:24] <TheHackOps> ikonia, Can i remove the newest version or at least set this kernal version to the default
[14:24] <Wolfsherz> lenzi: have you tried hp.com already?
[14:24] <Pici> omid: Unless you are asking a support question, we don't need a detailed rundown of what issues you had.
[14:26] <lenzi> Wolfshenz: Its not that easy
[14:26] <omid> sorry i didnt know that reporting problems here resaults the attack of ubuntu fan boys .
[14:26] <tj2> can anybody help me with my touchscreen problem? my touchscreen is being picked up as a mouse and its preventing my mouse from working correctly
[14:27] <lenzi> I am looking for it here: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting
[14:27] <Pici> omid: This channel is not a place to just report bugs. Thats what launchpad is for. As you can see this channel is very busy, thats why we ask that people keep stay on-topic.
[14:29] <TheHackOps> ikonia, Can i remove the newest version or at least set this kernal version to the default
[14:30] <omid> Pici, thankyou . i understand . i was saying that people can mention such things in a friendlier manner.
[14:34] <dp> is there a reason that the empathy package depends on libebook1.2-12, but that package is no longer available?
[14:35] <Pici> dp: That package should be available.  What release of Ubuntu are you using?
[14:36] <Dynamit> I have compile Xbmc and use Ubuntu 11.10 with unity but when i search for it i get no match, but before i did a clean install of my computer i did get a match when i had compile xbmc and yes i have run the  command sudo install make
[14:36] <Daxter> Im trying to set multiple monitors on ubuntu 11.10 but ti doesnt seem to see other monitor
[14:37] <Dynamit> have you push detect monitor
[14:38] <loljban> Daxter, I have the same problem with Ubuntu 10.10
[14:39] <Daxter> 10.10? even without unity crap you have that wow
[14:39] <Dynamit> have you try using your grafic cards screen controll?
[14:39] <dp> Pici: oneiric
[14:39] <Daxter> Dynamit tried that already... the nvidia settings about froze up the machine when i set it like i set it in 10.04
[14:39] <Dynamit> I have no problem whit setup multi screen whit nvidia
[14:40] <onizu> hi
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> low
[14:40] <deej1976> dp, try running sudo apt-get update first in a termina;
[14:40] <usr13>   Daxter: Desktop or laptop?
[14:40] <Dynamit> so that's wierd Daxter
[14:40] <deej1976> *terminal
[14:40] <Daxter> desktop
[14:40] <dp> deej1976: I did.
[14:40] <dp> but, I'll do it once more
[14:40] <Dynamit> i use laptop whit no problem
[14:41] <usr13> Daxter: What is the video card?
[14:41] <Dynamit> whit multi screen
[14:41] <Daxter> usr13: Geforce GT 240
[14:41] <dp> Reinstallation of libebook1.2-12 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[14:41] <usr13> Daxter: And you get a total frozen system?
[14:42] <deej1976> dp: "apt-cache search libebook"  finds libebook1.2-12
[14:42] <Daxter> not totoally..for a few seconds it tired to turn 2nd monitor on..then gave it no singal...and unity (everything except mouse) disappeard from 1st monitor..then after a few seocnd i get settings successfull press ok or reverting in 3....2.....1
[14:43] <dp> deej1976: I understand that
[14:43] <usr13> Daxter: Is the fan working properly?
[14:43] <Daxter> yeah.. i have 10.04 on same machine..runs games on both monitors perfectly
[14:43] <dp> deej1976: but I cannot install it
[14:44] <Dynamit> have you try other screen driver's?
[14:44] <Daxter> Dynamit: the nvidia driver is the only one that prviodes 3D accelration.. which is a must for me
[14:44] <deej1976> dp: can you pastebin the complete errro
[14:44] <deej1976> *error
[14:44] <usr13> Daxter: Well, I dono then.... not sure what could be ding it.  DO you have your 11.10 system fully updated?
[14:44] <Dynamit> when i check i have 2 nvidia driver's
[14:45] <dp> deej1976: I pasted it here: Reinstallation of libebook1.2-12 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[14:45] <Daxter> i tried the driver form nividoas site..boot into recovery mode->root prompt->telinit 3 at driver install request->login username (ubunut) ubuntu: commadn not found password (password) password: command not found->login incorrect->me rage
[14:46] <Daxter> 11.10 is updated
[14:46] <Daxter> not that i care too much just installed it to see how bad the unituy sht is..and i find that not only is unity shit, but the whole distro went shit too.. cane even login from recovery mode
[14:46] <omid> can someone explain me the diffrences in ubuntu LTS releases's point releases ? for example what's the diffrence between ubuntu 10.04.1 and ubuntu 10.04.3 ? what packages and things are updated ?
[14:47] <szal> !language | Daxter
[14:47] <ikonia> omid: updates pre-applied
[14:47] <Daxter> i know that you bot... just ubuntu is shit now...
[14:48] <Dynamit> I have no problem whit Unity
[14:48] <Dynamit> or Ubuntu and i run 11.10
[14:48] <Daxter> omid: 10.04.1 means 10.04 update #1
[14:49] <Daxter> they just re did iso to inculde updates a few moths after release
[14:49] <Daxter> right now 10.04 is t 10.04.3
[14:50] <omid> thankyou guys
[14:50] <Daxter> np
[14:51] <Daxter> is ikonia a bot?
[14:51] <ikonia> no
[14:51] <six7> is there a way to remove the 'blinking dots' loading screen for ubuntu 11.04 entirely?
[14:51] <dr_willis> Turing Test Passed. :)
[14:51] <theadmin> Daxter: The only bots around here are Floodbot1-3 and ubottu
[14:51] <six7> if I want a pure text-based boot [i.e. see everything that the computer is doing] ?
[14:51] <deej1976> dp: have you run a "sudo apt-get upgrade" ?
[14:52] <dr_willis> six7:  disable plymouth.  that can be done in /etc/default/grub by adding the 'nosplash' option i think
[14:52] <theadmin> six7: Append "noquiet nosplash" to your kernel line
[14:52] <dr_willis> six7:  for JUST text.. use the text option. that disables the login manager also
[14:52] <dr_willis> !text
[14:52] <dr_willis> six7:  you might want to disable the framebuffer also 'nofb' :)
[14:52] <Daxter> six7: the loading screen is not showing up right (aka plymouth).. sudo gedit /etc/conf.d/initramfs-tools/splash andd line FRAMEBUFFER=y
[14:52] <Daxter> iirc i think thtas what helped me
[14:53] <dp> deej1976: yes. that's actually what uninstalled empathy in the first place
[14:53] <dr_willis> I t3end to just disable plymouth. It just seems to cause more issues then its worth.
[14:53] <chasmo> Has anyone had success installing Word Perfect on Ubuntu 11.10?
[14:53] <dr_willis> word perfect.. now thats old skool. :)
[14:53] <Daxter> ^yes
[14:53] <dr_willis> it has a linux port?
[14:54] <deej1976> dp: What did you install to cause empathy to uninstall ? have you added an empathy PPA
[14:54] <chasmo> There's a debian package
[14:54] <six7> dr_willis: that !text link doesn't point to any section of that article
[14:55] <chasmo> I have a coworker who I do Linux support for who is trying to revive it.
[14:55] <dr_willis> six7:  not my fault.
[14:55] <six7> just pointing it out
[14:55] <six7> didn't know if you ran the bot or not
[14:55] <dr_willis> you apppend text tot eh end of the noquiet nosplash stuff.
[14:55] <dp> deej1976: I did an upgrade. AFAIK, I have no empathy PPAs
[14:56] <dr_willis> chasmo:  so its now open sourced?
[14:56] <chasmo> He's tried using ldd, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, LD_DEBUG, etc but no joy
[14:56] <six7> dr_willis: and that disables the login manager?  does that matter with what is essentially a LiveCD?
[14:56] <chasmo> dr_willis: good question, I don't know
[14:56] <dr_willis> six7:  not sure what it would do on a live cd.
[14:56] <dr_willis> chasmo:  if its just an old binary .deb package. its very likjely the libs it needs are not  the right versions any more.
[14:57] <chasmo> It's the last week of school, haven't had time to peek at his output or delve deeply myself
[14:57] <six7> dr_willis: we have a net install of Ubuntu for testing purpose in my shop; about 10% of computers fail to boot at all, they just get stuck on the 'blinking dots' screen, so I was wnting to see where they're actually failing
[14:57] <dr_willis> six7:  try the nomodeset option,  space when you see the little keybord=man icons, under F5 or F6 i think
[14:57] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[14:58] <Daxter> six7: did you update the bios on the computers? i klnow my old machine kept failing with hdds till i upgraded bios
[14:58] <deej1976> dp: Sorry, if you've not got any extra ppa's enabled, and it was removed with an upgrade, it's past my experiences
[14:58] <dr_willis> You could set nomodeset as the default also i guess.
[14:58] <chasmo> dr_willis, thanks
[14:58] <six7> Daxter: yeh, BIOSes are all up to date; it seems to me more of a latency thing, but not 100%
[14:58] <dr_willis> actually if you hit esc on the blinking dots. (plymouth)  i though you could see the messages.
[14:58] <dr_willis> i may be wrong. :)
[14:59] <six7> it'd be nice to streamline it for my coworkers
[14:59] <six7> they like the tools that Ubuntu gives, but most don't know how to use it outside of specific applications
[15:00] <travisHAZE> Off topic, but off-topic is always dead, and I'm making a presumption that math majors are present: If someone got a B in College Algebra (doesn't really remember logs), could they handle pre-calc w/ trig?
[15:00] <chasmo> six7: does any given box that fails _always_ fail, or is it intermittant?
[15:00] <pangolin> !ot
[15:01]  * chasmo suspects there are math-related IRC channels
[15:02]  * travisHAZE suspects they're dead like almost every other IRC server ever listed in history of interwebz
[15:02] <Malamen>  X.400 messages. Anyone knows a client. please ?
[15:03] <spyvsspy> anyone have any idea, why I cant view a SWF file, when I call chromium from a shell script
[15:03] <spyvsspy> but if I run it normally its fine?
[15:03] <six7> chasmo: it's intermittent, which is one of the reasons I think it's a latency thing
[15:04] <spyvsspy> nm
[15:04] <spyvsspy> profiles
[15:05] <chasmo> six7, you may be able to dig up info if you search for 'chain loader', the first and second stages of which are actually printing the dots. IIRC, there's a missing dot (a space) that indicates when the first stage hands off control to the 2nd.
[15:06] <chasmo> BBL, chow
[15:07] <BluesKaj> BBL, errands ...
[15:07] <ghen> pantek
[15:08] <ghen> mana orang nieh.............
[15:08] <ghen> pada kemana sich....
[15:11] <six7> on booting some of these machines, there's a large delay between initializing the ethernet connection and registering the UDP and TCP transport modules, does that mean anything to you guys?
[15:12] <six7> delay being about 60 seconds or so
[15:13] <progre55> hi guys. I'm using "select into outfile", and when the outfile is pointed to /tmp/file, it works fine, and the file is owned by mysql:mysql but when I create a separate directory on a different location and chown to mysql:mysql, it says "Can't create/write to file"
[15:13] <progre55> I was told it was apparmor
[15:13] <progre55> how do you disable it, or what's the preferred way of doing this?
[15:13] <insectatorious> I  have two files in different paths, one is a symlink of the other. Both have the same name. How do I know which is the symlink and which is the main file?
[15:13] <progre55> using ubuntu
[15:13] <x3k4p> hi i have a problem in my source liste in ubuntu 11.10
[15:14] <Gentoo64> progre55, you can disable the profiles
[15:14] <Gentoo64> !apparmor
[15:14] <Gentoo64> i cant remembet the way to use it
[15:14] <six7> insectatorious: you can use ls -l to show what type of file each one is
[15:14] <progre55> Gentoo64: thanks, let me read the manual =)
[15:15] <Gentoo64> progre55, i think by default only a few thigns are enabled
[15:15] <six7> insectatorious: the link will show like lrwxrwxrwx or so, depending on your permissions, the regular file will show as -rwxrwxrwx
[15:15] <x3k4p> hi i have a problem in my source liste in ubuntu 11.10 i want liste clean
[15:16] <theadmin> x3k4p: Speak English please... Or go to the corresponding support channel for your native language. What you just said made almost no sense, especially what came after "11.10"
[15:17] <x3k4p> i want my source liste to be as default
[15:18] <erespond> hai guyy, am need fine .db file on my system and del it, how i can do it on terminal
[15:18] <llutz> erespond: find path/ -iname filename.db -delete
[15:18] <erespond> any body know that step..
[15:19] <erespond> llutz, am need delet all .db file on mysystem
[15:19] <januari> iy
[15:19] <theadmin> x3k4p: This is the default sources.list if I recall right: http://pzt.me/7m18
[15:20] <llutz> erespond: find path/ -type f -iname "*.db" -delete         but be careful, it won't ask. better to make a list of these and check before deleteing
[15:20] <sipke> #Exiled-Destiny
[15:20] <erespond> llutz, but if am need recovery back can i get the step
[15:21] <theadmin> sipke: You don't need to spam the channel. If you want to join a channel instead of posting the name, use /join #test (replace "test" with channel's name)
[15:22] <erespond> llutz, you step work well thanks
[15:23] <x3k4p> i have yhis problem ::Failed to download repository information
[15:24] <theadmin> [19:19:44] <theadmin> x3k4p: This is the default sources.list if I recall right: http://pzt.me/7m18
[15:24] <theadmin> x3k4p: Also, sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[15:27] <ashish> bhjbj
[15:28] <x3k4p> worked
[15:32] <funkss> :)/
[15:32] <funkss> ada orang indon ngga ya?
[15:32] <funkss> :|
[15:32] <insectatorious> six7: thanks
[15:33] <genii-around> !id | funkss
[15:33] <funkss> thanks mr :D
[15:34] <funkss> kok sepi :|
[15:39] <tyler_d> when I ssh somewhere my titles don't update?
[15:43] <andy_wfc> anyone know much about vino-server? it's running and i can connect to port 5900, but it doesn't actually respond sensibly (i.e., state an RFB version). i have ssh access but no physical access. i've rebooted the machine a couple times and that doesn't help. vino's enabled via gnome
[15:46] <mang0> If I run sudo apt-get update, it won't update me to 11.10 will it?
[15:47] <auronandace> mang0: no
[15:48] <auronandace> mang0: update refreshes the package repositories, apt-get upgrade gets you the latest updates for your version
[15:48] <mang0> auronandace: Thanks :)