[02:30] <cafuego> san_diego_guy: If you need something graphical, 'bluefish' is really nice.
[02:30] <sohum> jrib: all i have jrib: and another one that's been brought up from edgy doesn't
[02:30] <AbuSami> Faugn: automake1.4 is
[02:30] <gene6482> wj32 i'm completely stumped, and i've found a lot of people with the same problem, but no answers
[02:30] <san_diego_guy> @cafuego: i'll check out vim
[02:30] <ajehuk> tbuss - so apache2 is working ok now?
[02:30] <Faugn> AbuSami: 1.7 too recent?
[02:30] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: did you mean to use the current Samba share, the "/home/downstairs/Desktop/winxpmtdir" as a 2-way dir? (cause thats the one i cant access)
[02:30] <wj32> vipwoody: whats your actual problem?
[02:30] <Pelo> san_diego_guy,  I beleive you can mount your ftp as a network drive,   gedit will save to that
[02:30] <sohum> jrib: is all of it necessary, or just the preamble?
[02:30] <san_diego_guy> cafuego: i'll check bluefish out to
[02:30] <tbuss> ajehuk: apache2/php4/mysql finally installed as advertised
[02:30] <mina_linux_Tux> does anyone has an idea or experienced with Reconstruction ?
[02:31] <jrib> sohum: just something that gives you the same error
[02:31] <wj32> gene6482: i dont know sorry :(
[02:31] <sohum> vox754: as ubuntu packages, or will I have to compile it?
[02:31] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - I thought you could access it in your ubuntu box...
[02:31] <san_diego_guy> pelo: really?  i can do that?  mount it as a drive?  that would be cool
[02:31] <AbuSami> Faugn:  can I  use 1.7 instead of 1.6 ?
[02:31] <ajehuk> tbuss - well that is good news...
[02:31] <wj32> vipwoody: more detailed.
[02:31] <vipwoody> wj32, I don't know how to install/download the Nvidia Driver
[02:31] <Lilacor> vipwoody: You should be able to run 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common' and then edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file for the driver to work properly.
[02:31] <ajehuk> tbuss - so problems now with gallery itself?
[02:31] <san_diego_guy> evildennis: FTP is unsecure, but i don't think i have much of a choice :-(
[02:31] <Faugn> AbuSami: maybe, might work, why do you need 1.6?
[02:31] <Pelo> san_diego_guy,  places , netowork server , foloow the instructions
[02:31] <wj32> san_diego_guy: bluefish doesnt have multi-syntax hilighting
[02:31] <tbuss> ajehuk: not anymore, config didn't go so well, lots of errors
[02:31] <AbuSami> Faugn:  KDE develop
[02:32] <wj32> vipwoody: have you downloaded the driver yet?
[02:32] <vipwoody> Lilacor, I am new to Linux and Ubuntu.... please be easy with me :D
[02:32] <vipwoody> wj32, no I dont know from where
[02:32] <Lilacor> vipwoody: First open up a terminal
[02:32] <tbuss> ajehuk: never got a chance to see what gallery2 could do
[02:32] <vipwoody> Lilacor, okay
[02:32] <wj32> vipwoody: follow Lilacor
[02:32] <san_diego_guy> pelo: thanks... installed ubuntu last night... like it to far... coming from XP and only dual booting so i can play WoW and run Adobe PhotoShop & Lightroom
[02:32] <vox754> sohum, no, as you should know, Latex is just a few binaries and lots of scripts, definition, classes, packages, files. It installs automatically... I can't quite explain. No compilation required.
[02:32] <Pelo> san_diego_guy,  maybe that wasn'T it, but it can be done,  I did it in dapper,  I just didn,t need it much so I didn''t do it again
[02:32] <AbuSami> Faugn: it works, thanks to you :)
[02:32] <user01> is there beryl for ubuntu?
[02:32] <Faugn> AbuSami: yeah, the site says automake >= 1.6
[02:32] <Lilacor> vipwoody: next, run 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common'
[02:32] <sohum> user01: yes
[02:32] <wj32> user01: yes.
[02:33] <sohum> vox754... ok
[02:33] <wj32> user01: i use the svn resps
[02:33] <bludevil> trying to copy my thunderbird profile /home/user/.mozilla-thunderbird from an old Ubuntu machine to a new one (old drive installed in the new machine) but in trying to open that hidden folder i get You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of ".mozilla-thunderbird".  How do I change permissions to allow me to copy the contents to my new .mozilla-thunderbird folder?
[02:33] <tbuss> ajehuk: I tracked my progress from start to end, I'm looking over the details right now.
[02:33] <mina_linux_Tux> does anyone has an idea or experienced with Reconstruction ?
[02:33] <Pelo> san_diego_guy,   wow will run on wine,  use the gimp  instead of photoshop , but I don'T know what lightthing is
[02:33] <reep> !beryl | user01
[02:33] <ubotu> user01: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:33] <user01> sohum: cant find the package . . .
[02:33] <Lilacor> vipwoody: next, press 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to restart your window server.
[02:33] <san_diego_guy> cool everyone... i will be checking out vim and bluefish and see which one works best for me... really like Ubuntu so far
[02:33] <mina_linux_Tux> may anyone answer me
[02:33] <wj32> bludevil: open up a terminal
[02:33] <eegore> the adi protocol is just not loading
[02:33] <tbuss> ajehuk: I thought I would try from scratch, I removed most of what I installed and reinstalled
[02:33] <Lilacor> vipwoody: You'll know if your drivers are properly installed if you see an Nvidia logo.
[02:33] <ajehuk> tbuss - Im not familiar with gallery2 - but if you get your LAMP rig set up OK that should be your aim, everything else *should* purley related to the php/mysql stuff that is gallery
[02:33] <bludevil> wj32: done
[02:33] <Pelo> mina_linux_Tux,   you only have 3 hrs left  try looking into cloning your hdd
[02:33] <xyz-abc> ajehuk, I can access "/home/downstairs/myxpmtdir" only from my Ubuntu PC
[02:33] <AbuSami> Faugn: thanks so much , every thing is  okay now ..
[02:33] <wj32> bludevil: sudo chown -Rv YOURUSER:YOURUSER ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[02:34] <tbuss> ajehuk: apache2 is working!
[02:34] <mina_linux_Tux> Pelo: i'm asking about this reconstructor
[02:34] <tbuss> ajehuk: I'm having a horrible time with php and mysql
[02:34] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - erm - that is a directory on your (nasty, evil, etc.. ) windows box though isnt it...
[02:34] <mina_linux_Tux> Pelo: it makes a Live CD or an installation CD
[02:34] <CppIsWeird> how do you force remove a directory if there is something in it?
[02:34] <bludevil> wj32:  thx....i'll give it a shot
[02:34] <san_diego_guy> pelo: Lightroom is a digital photo workflow and database... nothing equivalent on linux... as for GIMP, i know it's comparable to PS, but i just like PS better :-(.... as for WoW... it seems such a hassle to get it working with wine and ventrilo at the same time... and i'm too new to ubuntu to have to worry about it when killing horde... LOL
[02:34] <xyz-abc> no....
[02:34] <wj32> CppIsWeird: rm -r mydir
[02:34] <spikeb> rm -r
[02:34] <tbuss> ajehuk: I was almost there to, just right at the end everything went south
[02:34] <glen> where can i download 7.04rc?
[02:34] <ajehuk> tbuss - good job that in addition to being a net admin I do web design then isnt it... :(
[02:34] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: well which one were you talking about?
[02:34] <orac7000> I killed my gnome desktop by resizing my taskbar height, now I can't log into a gnome session, which config file should I be looking at?
[02:35] <user01> wj32: what repository do i have to add for edge to get it?
[02:35] <Pelo> san_diego_guy,  fair enough
[02:35] <mina_linux_Tux> may anyone answer me
[02:35] <reep> user01: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu these guides explains how to install beryl on ubuntu
[02:35] <audiorecord> hello, my wireless is working through this pcmcia card I have. My problem is it connects to any network that is available freely. I do not want thsi to happen. I want it to connect to my network by default
[02:35] <user01> reep: thanks
[02:35] <wj32> user01: http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/dists/edgy/beryl-svn/
[02:35] <xyz-abc> mina_linux_Tux, you silly there is no such a thing as a constructor
[02:36] <san_diego_guy> pelo: ROFL
[02:36] <cyris> anyone know of an application that I could use for my built in isight camera ?
[02:36] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - what you have done so far - I believe is mounted a share (being served by the windows box) onto your ubuntu box.  You have said ( I think ) that the ubuntu box is good, that you can see and use the windows share - if that is correct then you shuold be able to use that share to transfer files in both directions...
[02:36] <tbuss> ajehuk: When I tried to test the link for the php file, instead of opening in the browser, I would get a prompt to save or open the file, not the result I wanted
[02:36] <ajehuk> tbuss - php misconfiguration
[02:36] <mina_linux_Tux> xyz-abc: i'm asking , if it makes an installable or Live CD
[02:37] <xyz-abc> in know mina, im just annoying you
[02:37] <sohum> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15712/
[02:37] <ajehuk> tbuss - the apache server isnt processing the php files, presumably as it doesnt now what to do with them...
[02:37] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - :)
[02:37] <pirothezero> i just want to say that I just plugged in my pos sony camera into usb on my laptop and it auto detected to transfer photos, wtg ubuntu i was planning a struggle over getting that to work
[02:37] <sohum> jrib: that breaks after pdflatex hssac.tex; bibtex hssac, pdflatex hssac.tex
[02:37] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: yes, I can do that, but I just attempted to transfer a huge file and the speed is approximately 1 mb / minute
[02:37] <tbuss> ajehuk: so who configures to whom, php to apache or vice versa
[02:37] <Raubkopierer> Hello...
[02:37] <wj32> pirothezero: whats wtg?
[02:37] <reep> tbuss: there should be some symlinks called php5.load and php5.conf in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ do you have those?
[02:37] <ajehuk> ajehuk - you are probably looking at an issue with apache - we can test that tho
[02:38] <retarded> user01, still there?
[02:38] <Pelo> pirothezero,  sorry to hear that, I guess you'll just have to find a new chanlenge now
[02:38] <audiorecord> can anyone tell me how to specify the default network to be connected on wlassistant?
[02:38] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - that may be a network issue - especially if your router includes a hub not a switch - or one of the connections is wireless...
[02:38] <tbuss> reep: i decided to install php4 last night, it seems gallery works witht hat best?, but yes the files are there
[02:38] <pirothezero> wj32, way to go
[02:38] <pirothezero> pelo: theres always sata hotswap :)
[02:39] <pirothezero> need to update to 2.6.20 for that though =|
[02:39] <wj32> pirothezero: ok
[02:39] <ajehuk> reep - hello again (deja-vu) :)
[02:39] <sohum> pirothezero: wtg is not recognized by wtf, so it is not allowed to be used ;)
[02:39] <tbuss> reep: I had tried to use php5 but apache kept looking for the php4.load even after I deleted it
[02:39] <wj32> pirothezero: the memory stick is just like a usb drive. nothing hard
[02:39] <san_diego_guy> thanks everyone for helping with my question re: a good editor... will try vim and bluefish later tonight.  i'll be in the channel but AFK for a bit.  Thanks again!
[02:40] <sohum> san_diego_guy: vim rocks, btw
[02:40] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: just to clarify: I'm already using Samba, right? just not "fully".. I know I don't have smbclient package installed
[02:40] <pirothezero> no your're right just had a feeling tha tsony was going to screw me over some how
[02:40] <gene6482> hey everyone, i'm having some issues getting my intel 82801g sound card working using alsa snd-hda-intel driver, any help would be greatly appreciated
[02:40] <pirothezero> and put some lame ass block in the way
[02:40] <mina_linux_Tux> may anyone answer me , does this reconstructor make live or installable CD ?
[02:40] <pirothezero> i see threads in the forums about cameras and stuff and it was the first time I even bothered connecting mine
[02:40] <Pelo> mina_linux_Tux,  either I think
[02:40] <ajehuk> xyz-abc... if you have access to the windows shares then you have enough samba installed...
[02:40] <wj32> pirothezero: those users are stupid
[02:40] <pirothezero> :>
[02:40] <reep> ajehuk: hehe, someone should file a bug on php
[02:41] <reep> tbuss: should only have either php5.* or php4.* in the mods-enabled dir
[02:41] <sohum> jrib: you there?
[02:41] <xyz-abc> ajehuk: ok so its a networking issue, i guess i'll play around with my setup
[02:41] <jrib> sohum: yes
[02:41] <MrMakeveli> how big should a partion for /boot be?
[02:41] <ajehuk> reep - bug? what bug - everything works fine for me here - EBCK if ever I saw one.. :)
[02:41] <sohum> jrib: did you have a look?
[02:41] <atselby> faugn?
[02:41] <Lilacor> MrMakeveli: big enough for the images you need to place in there
[02:41] <ajehuk> xyz-abc - it is most likley that that is the case - if you are able to se both, and transfer files then it may well be a network issue...
[02:42] <MrMakeveli> lilacer: what images?
[02:42] <Powerking89670> Hello everyone, im attempting to install Beryl, and I cant seem to get gdm to stop
[02:42] <nraic> How can I add shortcut to my right mouse click?
[02:42] <tbuss> reep: I had both at one time. But was able to correct the problem, something I was installing I think maybe it wanted apache to use php4?
[02:42] <wj32> MrMakeveli: mines 2gb
[02:42] <Pelo> Powerking89670,  ask in #beryl
[02:42] <wj32> MrMakeveli: even 1gb is enough
[02:42] <gnomefreak> Powerking89670: ask in #ubuntu-effecvts
[02:42] <gnomefreak> effects even
[02:43] <wj32> Powerking89670: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:43] <MrMakeveli> wj32: i was thinking it would be about that
[02:43] <MrMakeveli> is there any reason it would need to excede 1-2gb?
[02:43] <jrib> sohum: yes, but I'm getting different errors so I'm reading over them to see what I did wrong
[02:43] <wj32> MrMakeveli: yes, if you have 10000000 kernels in there
[02:43] <Faugn> atselby: did you manage to start X manually?
[02:44] <firefly2442> tbuss, sounds like you need to install apache2 + PHP in the right order again
[02:44] <ajehuk> tbuss - Gallery claims to require php4 - i.e. php4 is a listed dependency - so you are probably going to need php4.  I say probably because some apps written for php4 will be fine with php5 - some wont - it depends on the php
[02:44] <NkZ> Greetings.
[02:44] <sohum> jrib: i get weird errors involving htmladdnormallink
[02:44] <firefly2442> tbuss, got this package? libapache2-mod-php5
[02:44] <MrMakeveli> i just have the kernel involved w/ ubuntu 6.10
[02:44] <atselby> faugn: no.. i just sent a message.. is it not going through?
[02:44] <NkZ> I wanted to know, Is there a way to Format my Flash Drive on Ubuntu?
[02:44] <nraic> How can I add a shortcut to terminal to my right mouse click menu?
[02:44] <MrMakeveli> a better question would be: what all is in the /boot?
[02:44] <Faugn> atselby: nope
[02:44] <firefly2442> NkZ, gparted should work
[02:44] <wj32> MrMakeveli: but as you do more upgrades, your old kernels are still there
[02:44] <atselby> faugn: <atselby> rebooted.... x never came back up
 sessioned into gnome failsafe. didnt get that error message.
 but i also dont have gnome panels... but. i dunno
 as you said my system's kinda f**ed
[02:44] <ajehuk> tbuss - cancel that - it says php4 OR php5 - Remind me to look and think before posting...
[02:44] <gnomefreak> atselby: please use pastebin
[02:44] <wj32> MrMakeveli: in there are kernels and initrds and grub files
[02:44] <Faugn> atselby: you stopped GDM ?
[02:45] <gene6482> what's the program to add terminal as a right click option?
[02:45] <NkZ> Firefly2442: How does that work?
[02:45] <atselby> gnomefreak: sorry .. it was like 3 messages though.
[02:45] <tbuss> firefly2442: /var/cache/apt/archives/libapache2-mod-php5_5.1.6-1ubuntu2.3_i386.deb
[02:45] <atselby> faugn: yes.
[02:45] <MrMakeveli> ok so lets say
[02:45] <atselby> faugn: and then did x
[02:45] <gnomefreak> 4 but using pastebin is safer
[02:45] <atselby> gnomefreak: k.
[02:45] <Faugn> atselby: and typing only 'X' doesn't start X properly?
[02:45] <wj32> gene6482: open up synaptic, the package name starts with "nautilus-"
[02:45] <atselby> faugn: yes.
[02:46] <tbuss> firefly2442: apache then php
[02:46] <MrMakeveli> i'll have at most a large kernel and default grub shiz, plus some extra wiggle room, what should be enough?
[02:46] <MrMakeveli> 1.5 gib?
[02:46] <MrMakeveli> gb*
[02:46] <Faugn> atselby: what do you get? no display?
[02:46] <wj32> MrMakeveli: yes
[02:46] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli 1.5Gb boot partition?
[02:46] <atselby> faugn: it hangs up
[02:46] <Guest96273> Help!  I cannot get XFCE desktop to load after installing
[02:46] <nraic> Can the shortcut in right mouse click be edited?
[02:46] <MrMakeveli> wj32, ajehuk:yes
[02:46] <jin> what use metacity and what uses GTK?
[02:46] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - you dont need anywhere near that much
[02:46] <tbuss> ajehuk: It's detailed but when you get a chance it might help if you intersted http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15713/
[02:46] <jin> I don't really know what metacity is :\
[02:46] <Faugn> atselby: ? you get the pointer and nothing else?
[02:46] <firefly2442> NkZ, are you running edgy right now?
[02:47] <atselby> faugn: yes.
[02:47] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: how big are most peoples boots?
[02:47] <ShiftyPowers> anyone have the easiest way to restore grub if I've booted into a edgy livecd?
[02:47] <wj32> jin: metacity is the window manager. it manages your windows.
[02:47] <Faugn> atselby: so it works, it's just that nothing else is started by default :)
[02:47] <atselby> faugn: when i rebooted back in i did not get that error message this time. to me that sounds good.
[02:47] <sohum> oh, btw, is the f-spot image viewer app supposed to work?
[02:47] <wj32> jin: gtk is the widget toolkit: the buttons, text boxes, combo boxes, scrollbars. so on
[02:47] <jin> and GTK is used to draw the window itself?
[02:47] <atselby> faugn: i cant fathom why it didnt show up but it didnt. now the only thing not working is gnome-panel which i can live without for now.
[02:47] <atselby> faugn: oh.
[02:47] <wj32> jin: the X server draws the window contents
[02:47] <atselby> faugn: well okay. XD
[02:48] <Faugn> atselby: ah, ok
[02:48] <Guest96273> Help!  I cannot get XFCE desktop to load after installing
[02:48] <atselby> faugn: i shoudl be able to get to session manager now right?
[02:48] <jrib> sohum: heh, it's supposed to
[02:48] <firefly2442> tbuss, this might help, make sure you do it in the right order http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Apache_HTTP_Server
[02:48] <tbuss> reep: there is a php4.load but no config
[02:48] <wj32> jin: metacity enables you to move windows, minimize them, bring them to the top, alt+tab so on
[02:48] <atselby> does anyone know the command for the session manager?
[02:48] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - the partition I have set is 100Mb, my kernel is 1.2M, initrd is 4.2 Mb, the rest of the stuff I have inthere (grub etc.. comes to a massive 32mb)
[02:48] <Faugn> atselby: so, just to be clear, you can login with GDM, just no gnome-panel?
[02:48] <thingy> jin, what's jin stand for? your name or initials?
[02:49] <atselby> faugn: yes this time it did that.
[02:49] <atselby> faugn: i tend to leave this computer logged in and just in hibernate over night so i should be safe if its the kernel problem until the update.
[02:49] <sohum> jrib: becasue wheneer I click it, nothing happens. Also, its icon is blank
[02:49] <jin> thingy, just a nick I I use
[02:49] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - give yourself a little space - especially if you are going to play about, but 250Mb should be more than enough, you can probably live with 100Mb, but it does depend on how much you intend to play.
[02:49] <atselby> faugn: would you happen to know the command for session manager?
[02:49] <atselby> its not gnome-session-manager..
[02:49] <jrib> sohum: what happens if you run 'f-spot' in a terminal?
[02:49] <wj32> ajehuk: mines a total of 60mb
[02:49] <sohum> jrib: f-spot photo *manager* works fine
[02:49] <Faugn> atselby: search it right now :)
[02:50] <tbuss> firefly2442: when I test the link on the howto I get the dir I have posted, I even see the testphp.php file I'm supposed to delete
[02:50] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: thats exactly what i was thinking and hoping to know
[02:50] <thingy> jin, ah...i use it to sometimes...first three letters of my name...hence i asked. :-)
[02:50] <sohum> jrib: f-spot photo manager runs
[02:50] <atselby> faugn: k
[02:50] <Faugn> atselby: gnome-session-properties, maybe?
[02:50] <Guest96273> Help!  I cannot get XFCE desktop to load after installing
[02:50] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: 250mb it is
[02:50] <reep> tbuss: try making the conf symlink: ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.conf /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php4.conf
[02:50] <sohum> jrib: but the photo viewer never worked
[02:50] <atselby> gah
[02:50] <ajehuk> wj32 - MrMakeveli (see wj32's comment) yeah - its peanuts, no need to allocate 1.5Gb
[02:50] <wj32> ajehuk: my kernels 1.5M, initrd is 7mb
[02:50] <reep> tbuss: (with sudo)
[02:50] <jin> thingy, lol, it's the first three letters of my name too
[02:50] <jin> :D
[02:50] <Faugn> atselby: use completion in the shell
[02:50] <atselby> faugn: error
[02:50] <Faugn> atselby: gnome-
[02:50] <jrib> sohum: how do you access it?
[02:50] <atselby> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15714/
[02:50] <Raubkopierer> I have a problem with Ndiswrapper... I have no Device wlan0 in ifconfig
[02:50] <Juancab> Please help, I do as it says in this tutorial: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_8.28.8_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[02:50] <Faugn> atselby: and then tab
[02:50] <wj32> atselby: gnome-session
[02:50] <tbuss> reep: okay, will give it a shot
[02:50] <larsbars> hi: i'm running feisty on a core duo laptop and speedstep-centrino fails to load (it worked twice). anybody else experience this problem?
[02:51] <Faugn> wj32: for the properties? not to start?
[02:51] <sohum> jrib: Menu -> Graphics -> F-spot photo viewer
[02:51] <MrMakeveli> wj32: thanks for the help too
[02:51] <atselby> wj32: just opens a session. im trying to get to session manager
[02:51] <atselby> ill mess with this later . ive gotta run
[02:51] <ajehuk> wj32 - Im running etch with a custom kernel, and have the canilla kernel sat as a spare, and I am still only using 30 odd percent of the available space....
[02:51] <sohum> jrib: it's never worked for me, not since dapper
[02:51] <atselby> thanks guys for the help its working to a usable state now
[02:51] <ajehuk> *vanilla
[02:51] <wj32> Faugn: system -> preferences -> sessions
[02:51] <Guest96273> Help!  I cannot get XFCE desktop to load after installing
[02:52] <jrib> sohum: can you check what binary that is running?  I don't have that menu option
[02:52] <Faugn> wj32: atselby has no gnome panel anymore :)
[02:52] <sohum> jrib: ok
[02:52] <ajehuk> Guest96273 - any output as to why it isnt loading? could you describe what is happening?
[02:52] <poningru> Guest96273: are you selecting it from sessions? at login screen?
[02:52] <Faugn> should be gnome-session-properties
[02:52] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: any recommendations for other partitions and their sizes? i am looking at a /boot @ 250mb, /var @ (someones recommendation) and a /home @ (remainder of hd)
[02:52] <dmarkey> how do i change the default x server from xgl to xorg
[02:52] <tbuss> reep: should I test that with localhost  with index.php?
[02:53] <MrMakeveli> or if anyone else can help that'd be appreciated too
[02:53] <Juancab> I've tryied to install ATI drives and now I can't enter ubuntu, please help
[02:53] <gan|y|med> hi
[02:53] <wj32> dmarkey: xgl runs on top of xorg
[02:53] <Guest96273> after I loaded the package I rebooted.  tried the startxfce command but error said it was not found.
[02:53] <firefly2442> MrMakeveli, I usually just have it automatically choose, my boot is about 800MB and that's plenty
[02:53] <reep> tbuss: you'll need to restart apache2 first, then test on a php-file
[02:53] <tbuss> reep: ok
[02:53] <richardsonh> anyone know a good tutorial to for scanning your windows partition with clamav?
[02:53] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - var is the interesting one - it is where you store logs etc, but also where apt keeps its cache and any mail servers etc.. keep mail spools so it does need to be fairly big (1-3Gb) but how big depends on use
[02:53] <compilerwriter> anyone have any luck getting Ubuntu, or for that matter any flavour of linux, to work with and adsl modem via usb interface?
[02:53] <dmarkey> wj32, well xgl become the new x server
[02:53] <MrMakeveli> firefly: do you have any other recommendations?
[02:54] <gan|y|med> pls, does anybody know why the fglrx-driver package does not install fglrx.ko??
[02:54] <lunaz> hi, i'm having trouble ripping my cds to mp3 format. i installed the gstreamer plugins from synaptic, have amarok, have the mp3 profile done on soundjuicer according to the directions. i try to extract, says its successful, then comes up w a 30 mb file that dont play anything but some squeaks from my speakers
[02:54] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: would 3gb keep me in the clear?
[02:54] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - remember to allocate at least 1Gb to / (your root) or you wont have any space to actually isntall anything (i.e. in /bin /usr /lib etc..)
[02:54] <Faugn> richardsonh: there is a clamav frontend: klamav
[02:54] <firefly2442> MrMakeveli, for partition sizes?
[02:54] <sohum> jrib: [Desktop Entry]  Categories=Application;Graphics;Viewer;GNOME;GTK Encoding=UTF-8  Exec=f-spot --view %u
[02:54] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - probably - unless you start running a mail server and have more than 3Gb of mail...
[02:54] <MrMakeveli> firefly: whoops you are right
[02:54] <richardsonh> compilerwriter, I tried at one point and time, but finally just begged my ISP for a ethernet modem.
[02:54] <Pelo> Faugn,  donT' you mean clamtk
[02:55] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - doesnt the installer offer recomendations for a multi partition system?
[02:55] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: i wouldnt mind running a file server, but i dont intend on storing mail. my gmail keeps me safe hahah
[02:55] <jrib> sohum: yeah, you should see what is going on if you try running 'f-spot --view' in a terminal
[02:55] <tbuss> reep: http://localhost/phpmyadmin/ prompts to open of save file  http://localhost/testphp.php Unable to connect
[02:55] <Faugn> Pelo: don't know this one, havn't tried klamav either, but it's here: klamav - KDE frontend for ClamAV
[02:55] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - Oh and remember to create a swap partition too...
[02:55] <Hasrat_USA> folks first of all don't assume that i'm a noob but all i wanna know very quickly is how to download and install some mouse cursor icon themes for my kubuntu that wouldn't break my current configuration. thanks
[02:55] <compilerwriter> I understand the feelikng richardsonh I was just hoping like hell that someone knew somthing I ddidnt.
[02:55] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: not that i have seen. there was online documenation but the page offering help is 404
[02:55] <richardsonh> compilerwriter, I mean if you don't have an option at all, you can share the connection via a windows machine....it's not the best way.
[02:55] <Pelo> Faugn,  ah,  clamtk is for gnome
[02:56] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: yse thats right, i meant to do a swap too, maybe at a gig or two?
[02:56] <firefly2442> MrMakeveli, oh yeah, for the swap partition, I would recommend at lest 2x the size of your RAM
[02:56] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - I meant within the installer itself once you get to the disk partitioning part
[02:56] <misterE``> i'm in a jam, and hope someone can help me...i have an ubuntu fileserver with a data drive mounted to /media/data and access it through samba on the network from my winders box.  I deleted a couple photos from windows explorer and i, of course, need them back.  They aren't in the windows trash or linux trash that i can find
[02:56] <richardsonh> compilerwriter, What modem/isp are you using?
[02:56] <compilerwriter> Pelo Faun I use klamav and it seems to work really well at catching stuff that comes my way.
[02:56] <reep> tbuss: hm... I'm looking at your pastebin, when you removed the php5 packages did you just remove them or also purge them?
[02:56] <misterE``> i tried searching with updatedb/locate, but it isn't finding them
[02:56] <Faugn> Pelo: ok, so not in TK? good!
[02:56] <mina_linux_Tux> i have a ubuntu 6.10 CD is there a way to re-write grub to the MBR
[02:57] <tbuss> reep: i removed those with synaptic
[02:57] <richardsonh> !grub > mina_linux_Tux
[02:57] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: with grub-install
[02:57] <firefly2442> mina_linux_Tux, did Windows overwrite it on you?
[02:57] <reep> tbuss: and libapache2-mod-php5 should also be purged
[02:57] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: im sitting at the disk partitioning part. it says a few small things like "256 for swap" etc
[02:57] <Hasrat_USA> misterE may be you permanently deleted 'em?
[02:57] <MrMakeveli> but iw as hoping to get some peoples opinions
[02:57] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - swap again depends on use, the old rule of thumb was 2xRAM, but in reality for a desktop that has 1Gb + RAM you probaly dont need to go much above 512Mb, - if you find yuo are using it all you can always resize it later..
[02:57] <Juancab> please help, I can't open ubuntu
[02:57] <thingy> misterE``, What's the filesystem on the samba box?
[02:57] <sohum> jrib: apparently it needs a path
[02:57] <reep> tbuss: in synaptic you can also choose to remove and purge
[02:57] <ajehuk> mr
[02:57] <jrib> sohum: right
[02:57] <tbuss> reep: /var/cache/apt/archives/libapache2-mod-php5_5.1.6-1ubuntu2.3_i386.deb is that it
[02:57] <misterE``> thingy: ext3
[02:57] <compilerwriter> richardsonh My brother-in-law has a speedstream through AT&T, he doesn't have a nic card to use the cat5 connection on it.  He is interested in trying linux, and I am just trying to find a way to help him without spending any money.
[02:57] <mina_linux_Tux> firefly2442: i'm trying to restore grub menu after re-ghosting
[02:57] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: good point, i will do 512 then
[02:57] <sohum> jrib: although if the path doesn not contain pictures it'll be just as happy
[02:58] <richardsonh> compilerwriter, no onboard ethernet?
[02:58] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - some people get away with using none...
[02:58] <compilerwriter> Of course the obviouse solution is to just spring $10.00 for a nic card.
[02:58] <reep> tbuss: removing a package only removes the binaries and libraries, the configuration (in /etc/apache2/ for one) remains, purging also removes the config files
[02:58] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: use grub-install
[02:58] <tbuss> reep: I saw an option to remove completely but was afraid other applications might go down withit
[02:58] <sohum> jrib: is this a bug? if so, is this an f-spot bug?
[02:58] <misterE``> i only deleted them through explorer, so i hope they should be in a trash bin somewhere
[02:58] <cyris> mm i feel like some unreal tournament 1999 :D
[02:58] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk, i am trying to do it right though!
[02:58] <tbuss> reep: oh
[02:58] <Hasrat_USA> ajehk i have one gig ddr ram and i mistakenly allocated 3, yes 3 GB of Hard Drive space for GNU/Linux's swap partition. how can i change it back to 512 MB without breaking anything in my current configuration?
[02:58] <MrMakeveli> haha
[02:58] <bulmer> compilerwriter: 10/100M nic cards are dirt cheap
[02:58] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - whilst on my ipaq (PDA) I use 4xmemory so its a variable
[02:58] <sohum> jrib: shouldn't f-spot --view without a path default to the home directory or something?
[02:58] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: grub-install ? from where or how
[02:58] <tbuss> reep: that would explain a lot :)
[02:58] <compilerwriter> nope richardsonh no on board ethernet.  He has a hand me down machine where the person used dialup.
[02:58] <richardsonh> mina_linux_Tux, My boss is trying to figure out the same thing, I haven't sat down with it to help him though.
[02:58] <MrMakeveli> ajehuK: i'll do 512 and i'll do some tests to see what kind of swap is being used. i can adjust later if need be
[02:59] <jrib> sohum: you could argue that, file a wishlist bug in f-spot's bug tracker if you rhink so.
[02:59] <thingy> misterE``, To your knowledge, have you setup samba with recycle bin functionality?
[02:59] <sohum> jrib: ok
[02:59] <Hasrat_USA> MisterE It doesn't matter how you deleted what. the fact is that if you delete something 'permanently', it's just gone but there are some hard and geeky way you can recover 'permanently' deleted files though
[02:59] <ajehuk> reep - tbuss - this is what I was driving at yesterday when I suggested reinstalling apache (which rewrites the configs) and purging php4
[02:59] <Hasrat_USA> *ways
[02:59] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: you boot with the ubuntu CD, then, if you have only one HD, sudo grub-install '(hd0)', should do the trick
[02:59] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: .....?
[02:59] <misterE``> thingy: not that i'm aware of
[02:59] <ajehuk> *can re-write the configs
[03:00] <compilerwriter> I know the nic cards don't cost much, but right now we both are watching every penny.  I am just trying to avoid the expenditure if it can be helped.
[03:00] <richardsonh> compilerwriter, Yeah, a 10/100 pci card is really dirt cheap http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124099
[03:00] <firefly2442> anyone here use bazaar version control?
[03:00] <Juancab> please help, I can't open ubuntu after trying to instal ati drivers
[03:00] <Shaba1> hello
[03:00] <Shaba1> how do I destry a saves seesson
[03:00] <starz> right
[03:00] <Hasrat_USA> juancab you installed the drivers using Envy?
[03:00] <misterE``> Hasrat_USA: when deleting a file in either OS by itself, it moves it to a trash can somewhere usually before actually being removed.  I hope to avoid any nonsense with mc or lsof, but i'll do what i have to
[03:00] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: if, when rebooting, it doesn't find the config file, you can use the command line, with something like: config (hd0)/boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:00] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: boot with the ubuntu 6.10 installation CD and select what from the menu
[03:00] <starz> installed that 2.6.17-50-386 kernel
[03:00] <starz> but i cant seem to get nvidia drivers to work
[03:01] <vio> hey :D
[03:01] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: you start it normaly
[03:01] <tbuss> ajehuk: reep: so I can safetly purge apache2 reinstall, and then cont with the rest of process? everything needs apache to be in place and config properly so it can install and config?
[03:01] <vio> can i switch from feisty 32-bit to 64bit?
[03:01] <thingy> misterE``, ok. you are out of luck in trying to recover the file directly on the samba box. Now is there any chance you opened these photos in something that keeps a cache, like internet explorer/firefox etc?
[03:01] <aA|Frantic> is there an ubuntu equiv to sfc /scannow?
[03:01] <starz> anyone got a good guide i can read in tty-console-browser for instructions on edgy?
[03:01] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: with the live option
[03:01] <mistone> is there a tourtial for installing windows XP AFTER I installed ubuntu ?
[03:01] <dmarkey> its not possible
[03:02] <richardsonh> mistone,  thats easy
[03:02] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: ubuntu alternate CD isn't a live one , it's an installation one , what i have to select
[03:02] <misterE``> no, but the furstrating thing is, they're in Adobe Lightroom (photos) and they keep a 1:1 preview of them available, but i don't see any way to save it from there
[03:02] <Faugn> mistone: usually a very bad idea, installing windows after linux.....
[03:02] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: ha...
[03:02] <Faugn> mmm
[03:02] <firefly2442> mistone, your MBR will get messed up after installing Windows
[03:02] <compilerwriter> mistone it is always better to install ubuntu after windows in my experience.  Windows does not play nicely with other operating systems.
[03:02] <misterE``> thingy: i can't export from lightroom or anything without the orig in place
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[03:02] <Juancab> Hasrat_USA: No, I've followed this guide: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_8.28.8_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[03:02] <MrMakeveli> ok so everyone, the plan so far is: on a 160 gb hd --> /boot @ 250mb, /swap @ 512mb, /var @ 2gb (?), /home @ 120gb, and / @ remainder
[03:02] <firefly2442> mistone, you can do it but it's sorta a pain
[03:02] <ajehuk> tbuss - thats my reading of it - if you are using all apt packages I might go as far as to remove php5/4 and apache2 and then just install gallery - letting gallery take care of its own dependencies and configuration for them - you will *need* to purge when you uninstall apache and php4/5 - and this will get rid of anyexisting bits you have....
[03:02] <reep> tbuss: to get a clean start, I would purge all php4* php5* apache2* and libapache2* packages, then install php4 or php5, which should also install apache2 because they depend on it
[03:03] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: does that sound about right?
[03:03] <ajehuk> reep - tbuss - great minds, and thinking alike - methinks
[03:03] <misterE``> thingy: also, if there's a way to set up recycle functionality with this samba share, it'd certainly save me some time in the future!
[03:03] <firefly2442> MrMakeveli, is there a reason your aren't having it automatically partition it?
[03:03] <vio> can i upgrade from 32-bit ubuntu (feisty) to 64-bit (feisty)?
[03:03] <reep> hihi
[03:03] <jimenycricket> Hello, I want to set up a proxy server on my pc for 1-2 users.  Is squid right for me?
[03:03] <crimsun> vio: not easily nor in-place yet.
[03:03] <compilerwriter> mistone I suggest you not install the virus from Redmond Washington at all.  Your machine and you, ultimately, will be better off.
[03:03] <thingy> misterE``, can you view photos in adobe lightroom software? if so, why can't use use a screenshot application to grab a screenshot when viewing the photo. You could every get away using the windows printscreen feature. If the pciture is too big to fit on one screen....use multiple screenshots and stitch the pictures together
[03:04] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - yeah sounds good except there should be no /swap (as its not mounted as such)
[03:04] <MrMakeveli> firefly: default installation doesnt auto-partition, it just does one partition
[03:04] <Juancab> Hasrat_USA: No, I've followed this guide: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_8.28.8_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[03:04] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: if the installed system is Ubuntu Edgy 6.10 , if i'll use ubuntu 4.10 Live CD to reinstall GRUB, does it works
[03:04] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: whoops forgot the swap
[03:04] <mistone> compilerwriter: shut up. I just want to play some games
[03:04] <MrMakeveli> lemme add that
[03:04] <aA|Frantic> is there a system file checker in ubuntu?!??!!
[03:04] <mistone> I have a vista install
[03:04] <jrib> sohum: ok, I got your thing to compile if I got rid of url and changed it to just "http". Does your error persist when you do that?
[03:04] <tbuss> reep: ajehuk: excellent, that is what I will do, did the pastebin help any with the troubleshootng?
[03:04] <mistone> I cannot boot into my vista install
[03:04] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - it should just be a partition formateed in swapfs and available to the OS for swapping to (its set in fstab) it shuold NOT have a mount point
[03:04] <sohum> jrib: let me check
[03:04] <misterE``> thingy: now that's definitately worth a shot, i could get a usable copy that way
[03:04] <Pelo> aA|Frantic,  fsck I think is what you want
[03:05] <retarded> perhaps i should avoid asking stupid questions during peek times . but . im gona reinstall ubuntu tomorow . i played around with it today . all i am wondering is if the /home/ partition is the remaining disk space, and that for whatever reason i decide to reinstall ubuntu , will i lose the /home/ partitions content ?
[03:05] <ajehuk> mistone - that seems like a good thing <- obligatory
[03:05] <thingy> misterE``, good luck
[03:05] <reep> tbuss: yes, very informative :)
[03:05] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: so what should i do? create the partition but not mount it?
[03:05] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: ... any comment ?
[03:05] <mistone> ajehuk: what that my vista install is fryed?
[03:05] <thingy> aA|Frantic, do want something like this: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/warty/admin/aide ?
[03:05] <compilerwriter> Mistone that changes things.  Are you telling me that you had vista and then installed Ubuntu and now can't get to your Vista partition.
[03:05] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: you should be able to use almost any live sytem
[03:05] <misterE``> thingy: thanks, is there a way to set up the recycle functionality you were talking about with samba? i've never heard anything about it
[03:05] <Juancab> please help, I can't open ubuntu after trying to instal ati drivers
[03:06] <mistone> compilerwriter: however the only way to fix it is by installing XP and using vistabootpro
[03:06] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - when you create the partition you should have the option of setting the file system - you would need to set it to something like swap - not being overly familiar with the ubuntu installer Im not sure what the actual process is...
[03:06] <aib> does anyone know why this happens when I ssh? `connect /tmp/.X11-unix/X0: No such file or directory'. ssh -x fixes it, but it seems like my env is messed up
[03:06] <tbuss> reep: ajehuk: I don't mean to eat and run, but I'm sorta excited about trying this out, thanks for your help again, I'll post back with my results, good or bad :)
[03:06] <thingy> misterE``, there is a patch for samba which setups a recyle bin like functionality. am googling for a link one sec
[03:06] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: then, 2 possibilites: grub-install from the live system, or grub-install after a chroot to your installed system
[03:06] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: there is no GRUB Version differences  between ubuntu 4.10 and ubuntu Edgy ?
[03:06] <vio> Juancab: use "fail-safe-gnome" from the log-in window?
[03:06] <mistone> I have a HP computer so I didn't get my recovery CD
[03:06] <reep> retarded: just make sure you choose to manually partition when you get to the partitioning part of the installation, then tell it to mount your home partition to /home, and NOT to format
[03:06] <compilerwriter> Juancab Do you have the live cd.
[03:06] <aA|Frantic> lol thx guys
[03:06] <sohum> jrib: wait, what do you mean by changed it to jsut http?
[03:06] <reep> retarded: I did that recently, worked fine
[03:06] <Juancab> vio: How can I do that, I can't select the session now
[03:06] <knix_> I have a ati 9250 and on feisty when i click restricted drivers it says "my hardware doesnt need any drivers"  please help
[03:07] <compilerwriter> God mistone I have no help for you there.  I wish you luck.
[03:07] <retarded> ty reep
[03:07] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: if you manage to boot on grub, you should be able to start your system, and reinstall it/fix the config
[03:07] <ajehuk> reep - are you fairly familiar with the more recent ubuntu installers?
[03:07] <jrib> sohum: URL="http"
[03:07] <compilerwriter> I understand that gamers need their games.  I was just never into the games that much.
[03:07] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: i take it its the "linux-swap" filesystem selection?
[03:07] <Juancab> vio: I get a blue text intraface with no other option than accept, and then a black screen
[03:07] <ajehuk> MrMakeveli - I would say yes.
[03:07] <sohum> jrib: oh. that's not very useful, is it?
[03:07] <MrMakeveli> ajehuk: haha
[03:07] <mistone> compilerwriter:  its retarded.
[03:08] <mistone> vista wont boot unless the GUID's are the same...
[03:08] <jrib> we're just trying to figure out the cause of the problem
[03:08] <vio> Juancab: xorg.conf problems (graphics card drivers)
[03:08] <jrib> sohum:
[03:08] <vio> do you have ati or nvida or intel?
[03:08] <Juancab> vio: ATI
[03:08] <reep> ajehuk: I've installed Dapper and Edgy a couple of times... Tried upgrading from dapper to feisty some time ago, but it screwed up beryl, so I just reinstalled edgy
[03:08] <thingy> misterE``, http://www.amherst.edu/~bbstone/howto/samba.html  and ubuntu specific instructions are here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=155763&highlight=samba+recycle+bin
[03:08] <sohum> jrib: yes?
[03:08] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: another way , is there no way to make an installable CD image from my running ubuntu 6.10 system to be installed on other number of machines ?
[03:08] <Juancab> I've followed this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_8.28.8_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[03:08] <jrib> sohum: we're just trying to figure out the cause of the problem
[03:08] <sohum> jrib: ok
[03:08] <Juancab> vio:  I've followed this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_8.28.8_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[03:08] <misterE``> thingy: ty very much, i'll give it a run
[03:09] <ajehuk> reep - what I meant was - formatiing part - is it still the old style (ala debian) front end or is it all fancy pants these days?
[03:09] <compilerwriter> Like I said, mistone, the folks in Redmond don't like to play nicely.  That is why they had such trouble with anti-trust lawyers a while back.
[03:09] <sohum> jrib: nope, my error is still there
[03:10] <reep> ajehuk: don't know what debian uses, but I was a bit annoyed that I only got two options... Let ubuntu repartition the drive, or do it manually (with gparted)
[03:10] <ajehuk> compilerwriter - what do you mean a while back? they are *still* having problems with anti-trust issues...
[03:10] <stephen> hello?
[03:10] <wj32>
[03:10] <stephen> cool
[03:10] <reep> ajehuk: I seem to remember that when I installed dapper, I had more choices
[03:10] <Juancab> please help, I can't open ubuntu after trying to instal ati drivers
[03:10] <vio> Juancab: hold on
[03:10] <stephen> do you know how to get beryl working on an ATI card
[03:10] <stephen> without xgl
[03:11] <vio> stephen: aiglx
[03:11] <stephen> yeah
[03:11] <retarded> juancab im new so ask for confirmation . but today  i tryed to run beryl on a recent ati card. conclusion was. you need to install the 8.35 drivers
[03:11] <jrib> sohum: ok, well going back to your reinstall question, why don't you just unisntall texlive and then install it again?
[03:11] <vio> stephen:  #ubuntu-effects
[03:11] <stephen> how do I use that instead
[03:11] <wj32> stephen: you can't. the ati drivers suck too much.
[03:11] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: could you see my replies on private
[03:11] <sohum> jrib: because that breaks a large number of packages
[03:11] <stephen> crap
[03:11] <ajehuk> reep : that clarifies it for me, - yeah cant reember the last version I used but it *was* the standard debian installer albeit for ubuntu, whith the whole range of options - guided partitionaing manual, auto all in one etc..
[03:11] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: nope...
[03:11] <knix_> when I try to install the ati driver I get this "/ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[03:11] <knix_> Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install
[03:11] <knix_> "
[03:11] <retarded> same symptoms . black screen only mouse pointer.
[03:11] <vio> you can. im using it ATM
[03:11] <reep> !envy | Juancab
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <wj32> stephen: they don't support the composite extension while having 3d acceleration
[03:11] <stephen> is there any better drivers
[03:11] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: i just create a ghost image from a ubuntu running system , and burned it on a cd and i installed it on the other machine the boot hangs at grub level
[03:11] <jrib> sohum: they won't break, they'll just get uninstalled.  Install them back afterwards
[03:11] <vio> thats a personal opinion wj32
[03:11] <jin> what is the software called that makes gimp has similar interface to photoshop
[03:11] <jin> I can't recall its name :(
[03:11] <fin_> hey everyone, was just wondering if the custom dsdt patch has been applied to the feisty fawn beta kernel yet?
[03:11] <wj32> vio: no its not
[03:11] <mukaken> hoo
[03:11] <wj32> vio: its a fact.
[03:11] <nixnoob> how do i remove xdmcp?
[03:12] <compilerwriter> true ajehuk but the big press is over with.
[03:12] <vio> nope
[03:12] <gnomefreak> stephen: please see #ubuntu-effects for beryl related questions
[03:12] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: that's why i'm trying to install GRUB
[03:12] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: ok... and it's the same configuration? like first HD in both case?
[03:12] <reep> Juancab: this installs the ati-driver easily for you http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[03:12] <stephen> alrite
[03:12] <wj32> vio: ati drivers don't support composite with 3d accel. therefore composite would be extremely slow
[03:12] <ajehuk> compilerwriter - its over when I say its over damn it :)
[03:12] <Juancab> reep: I've tried envy, didn't work. But that's not my problem now
[03:12] <wj32> vio: (with aiglx)
[03:12] <MrMakeveli> MiB  ~ mb?
[03:12] <stephen> I'm a noob at IRC
[03:12] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: which configuration ?
[03:12] <vio> wj32: i'm runing compiz +aiglx and its better than with xgl..
[03:12] <stephen> how do i get to #ubuntu effects
[03:12] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: grub is not started at all? or you cannot launch ubuntu after grub appears?
[03:12] <Juancab> reep: I can't even enter ubuntu
[03:12] <wj32> vio: do you use the radeon drivers or the fglrx drivers?
[03:13] <Juancab> I get a black screen
[03:13] <gnomefreak> stephen: /j #ubuntu-effects
[03:13] <vio> what kind of question is that?
[03:13] <stephen> thanx
[03:13] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: i cannot make anything after GRUB appears
[03:13] <wj32> vio: huh?
[03:13] <compilerwriter> It won't be over for decades then.  As long as it takes the EU courts to get things done.
[03:13] <snarfer> Hello, I'm trying to install PHP5. I know it's in the apt repos, but I'd prefer to compile it myself. It requires that I have lex installed. I searched for it on the ubuntu factiods, but I only find screen. Can someone help?
[03:13] <stephen> I downloaded the radean drivers
[03:13] <vio> you can't use non-open source drivers on aiglx
[03:13] <ajehuk> vio a sensible one
[03:13] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: what do you get?
[03:13] <stephen> are you saying use mesa?
[03:13] <jrib> sohum: or you could try to just reinstall everything with "texlive" in the name
[03:13] <wj32> vio: thats what i was saying
[03:13] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: grub
[03:13] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: no entries?
[03:13] <knix_> reep, can I use envy for my ati 9250?
[03:13] <stephen> mesa will work?
[03:13] <synic> snarfer: any reason you'd rather compile it yourself?
[03:13] <sohum> jrib: the uninstall is in progress
[03:13] <thingy> jin, Gimpshop - http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294
[03:14] <reep> Juancab: ah, I guess you should reconfigure your xorg to use the radeon driver till you get the fglrx driver working again
[03:14] <stephen> because I have to load the xgl session in order to use beryl
[03:14] <snarfer> It's a matter of want and need
[03:14] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: nothing , even tried to type anything , nothing appears on the screen
[03:14] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: can you interract with grub? like do you have the command line working?
[03:14] <snarfer> I'd prefer not to get into those details
[03:14] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: ok
[03:14] <synic> snarfer: apt-get install build-essential
[03:14] <snarfer> Did htat
[03:14] <snarfer> that*
[03:14] <Juancab> reep: can you help me with that?
[03:14] <wj32> stephen: does 3d acceleration work with the radeon drivers?
[03:14] <snarfer> That's how I can tell you PHP5 needs lex ;)
[03:14] <mistone> how can I find where grub is installed to now?
[03:14] <vio> wj32: closed-source ATI driver together with XGL which seems to be a bit unstable.
[03:14] <pamela> hola
[03:15] <reep> knix_: if the fglrx drivers support ati9250, I don't know if it does
[03:15] <fin_> mistone - /boot/grub
[03:15] <ajehuk> vio - wj32 - very unstable - Im using a Radeon 9550
[03:15] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: ....?
[03:15] <mistone> no I mean is it installed on one of my partations or my harddrive
[03:15] <reep> Juancab: Ctrl+Alt+F1 should give you a console, log in and run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:15] <spikeb> 3d accell with the OSS drivers works with a 9250
[03:15] <knix_> reep, then how can I get this card 3d enabled?  Im so lost
[03:15] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: look for a tutorial like this one: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialRecoveryAndBootDisk.html, to make a working grub boot floppy
[03:15] <wj32> ajehuk: im using radeon 9550 as well
[03:15] <fin_> partitions are on hardrives.. and files are in partitions
[03:15] <ajehuk> wj32 - any luck with beryl / compiz?
[03:15] <wj32> ajehuk: a long time ago i had dri with the radeon drivers but i cant get it now
[03:15] <snarfer> Anyone?
[03:16] <wj32> ajehuk: i currently use fglrx with xgl
[03:16] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: the machines doesn't have a Floppy driver nor a floppy IDE
[03:16] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: ...
[03:16] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: only a cd drive?
[03:16] <ajehuk> wj32 - Im tri monitor so I dont bother anymore ( the second card is a Matrox with 4Mb videoram)
[03:16] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: yes
[03:16] <wj32> vio: you got dri working with radeon because radeon 9250 is a rv250 chipset
[03:17] <wj32> vio: radeon supports that, but the radeon 9550 is a rv300 or rv350. they dont work
[03:17] <Juancab> vio: what options should I choose?
[03:17] <wj32> ajehuk: cool
[03:17] <Juancab> vio: ATI?
[03:17] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: .............?????
[03:17] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: then go back to trying to boot a live system which has grub installed, or so you can chroot on the partition of the system you can't boot
[03:17] <vio> Juancab: can you enter login screen?
[03:17] <snarfer> I can't seem to apt-get install lex
[03:18] <snarfer> And the ubuntu wiki isn't turning anyting up
[03:18] <wj32> vio: no
[03:18] <Faugn> grub installed = has grub-install
[03:18] <wj32> snarfer: have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[03:18] <vio> Juancab: then you prob don't have the right drivers installed..
[03:18] <ajehuk> wj32 - I actually though dri was possible but that you lost something else (compositing?) when it was enabled so the driver is OK but not there yet.. I may be wrong...
[03:18] <snarfer> multiverse
[03:18] <reep> knix: apparently you use the radeon driver for your card (as spikeb mentioned)
[03:18] <gnychis> Lilacor: that wireless network stuff worked, thank you!!
[03:18] <Faugn> snarfer: install flex
[03:18] <Juancab> vio: Not now. I could before I tried this guide: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_8.28.8_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[03:18] <snarfer> !flex
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn:  i just create a ghost image from a ubuntu running system , and burned it on a cd and i installed it on the other machine the boot hangs at grub level, is it logical or undoable ?
[03:19] <vio> Juancab: that's strange though
[03:19] <wj32> ajehuk: with the radeon drivers dri with composite is possible. with fglrx its not. so, if you want composite with fglrx, its gonna be SLLLOOOWWWWW
[03:19] <pamela> visit www.kpcnet.com.ar
[03:19] <wj32> ajehuk: sadly, radeon dri doesnt work for me. it DID a long time ago.
[03:19] <ajehuk> wj32 - knew it was somethin glike that... ah well who needs 3d anyway,
[03:19] <Juancab> vio: I think that's because I've changed the xorg.conf as it says there
[03:19] <wj32> ajehuk: or maybe that was when i was using geforce4
[03:19] <fin_> hmm, whats the name of the kernel sources package in apt?
[03:19] <pamela> http://juegos.kpcnet.com.ar
[03:20] <vio> Juancab: you gotta install the "standard" ati drivers so that you can use your computer once more
[03:20] <wj32> ajehuk: ati sucks.
[03:20] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: I don't know, grub is fucked, but maybe the system is alright, maybe it's just the fact that the hd configuration is not the same...
[03:20] <thingy> snarfer, are you after a lexical analyser or the lexmark printer driver software?
[03:20] <vio> Juancab: that could also be a solution
[03:20] <wj32> Juancab: ctrl+alt+f1
[03:20] <snarfer> Former
[03:20] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: what do u mean by HD configuration
[03:20] <wj32> Juancab: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:20] <wj32> Juancab: then replace fglrx with radeon
[03:21] <wj32> snarfer: enable universe.
[03:21] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: for example, if on the installed system, the ubuntu partition is on (hd1) (from GRUB perspective) and (hd0) on the new one, grub can't load stage1/2 files to keep booting
[03:21] <snarfer> I got flex installed
[03:21] <snarfer> And PHP is fine with it
[03:22] <wj32> snarfer: ok
[03:22] <vio> Juancab: that should work
[03:22] <snarfer> Now it's complaining about libxml2
[03:22] <snarfer> !libxml
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxml - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <mina_linux_Tux> Faugn: and reinstalling GRUB fix that ?
[03:22] <wj32> !libxml2
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxml2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <reep> fin_: you only need that package if you intend to recompile the kernel, it's called linux-source-`uname -r` though, but you probably just want linux-headers-`uname -r`
[03:23] <fin_> thanks
[03:23] <fin_> and yeah i do intend to recompile the kernel, i need to add the patch that feisty forgot to include
[03:23] <wj32> when i tried to recompile the kernel i got some stupid errors about Qt3
[03:23] <Faugn> mina_linux_Tux: yes, but maybe after grub is working, you'll realize that the ubuntu partition is not right... so if you have nothing to loose, maybe installing from scratch is not a bad idea
[03:24] <wj32> a bloody KERNEL cant rely on a WIDGET TOOLKIT!!!!
[03:24] <wj32> wtf
[03:24] <eck> wj32: it only depends on make and gcc
[03:24] <cafuego> wj32: Don't use `make xconfig' then
[03:24] <wj32> eck: but it said i didnt have the qt3 headers
[03:24] <Faugn> wj32: only make xconfig depends on qt
[03:24] <ajmorris_> what in linux, reads nero's .nrg image files?
[03:24] <Faugn> wj32: use make menuconfig
[03:24] <wj32> eck: which i cant install
[03:24] <Puppy_> how do I chose my default multimedia player?
[03:25] <wj32> Faugn: ok
[03:25] <cafuego> Note that for menuconfig you need libncurses5-dev
[03:25] <mystery_> has any got kxdocker to work
[03:25] <louieb> Hey I want to setup software raid in 6.10 and I cant select flags. someone recommended I make the partition and then use the flags...but it didnt work. any ideas?
[03:25] <snarfer> http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/edgy/libs/libxml2
[03:25] <snarfer> Bah
[03:25] <mphill_> is there a way to get my fonts to look closer to Mac?
[03:25] <snarfer> Where is it?
[03:26] <mystery_> yeah get the mac fonts
[03:26] <Proud_Poppa> hello?
[03:26] <reep> Puppy_: right click a media file, like an .ogg file, select properties, and on the open with tab, select an application, all files of that type will be open with that application by default from then on
[03:26] <eck> mphill_: a lot of them (e.g. helvetica) require licenses
[03:26] <Puppy_> thank you reep!
[03:26] <eck> i.e. $$$
[03:27] <louieb> can anyone help me with gparted?
[03:27] <Juancab> vio: are you there? Thank you, now I can access the login screen but I have this problem: http://pastebin.ca/440092
[03:27] <Pelo> eck  I'm not totaly sure about this but I think the copy right on  Helvetica ran out quite a while ago it if had on e
[03:27] <Kamaria> Hey everyone. I'm running a dual boot of Ubuntu and Windows XP. I can access my Windows partition from Linux, but I can't boot into windows at all, it hangs at the 'Starting Up...' message.
[03:27] <wj32> im building the kernel now. yay.
[03:28] <Proud_Poppa> can anyone tell me if there is a music player that plays MP3's for Linux?
[03:28] <Faugn> Juancab: full HDL
[03:28] <Faugn> *HD?
[03:28] <Kamaria> Does anyone know what I can do to fix my problem?
[03:28] <wj32> Proud_Poppa: quodlibet, banshee, amarok, exile, listen
[03:28] <Pelo> Kamaria,  did you do anyting to your nfts partiton from linux ?
[03:28] <wj32> !mp3 | Proud_Poppa
[03:28] <ubotu> Proud_Poppa: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:29] <louieb> can someone help me access raid flags in gparted?
[03:29] <Juancab> Faugn: yes, is like this problem: http://arun-prabha.com/wdpress/?p=301
[03:29] <Kamaria> Pelo: I resized it to make room for Linux.
[03:29] <mystery_> Kamaria: I think there is a way
[03:29] <Proud_Poppa> wj32...know where I can get any of those?
[03:29] <Kamaria> My NTFS partition took up the whole disk, so I had no choice.
[03:29] <mystery_> Kamaria: Just get rid of windows
[03:30] <Pelo> Kamaria,  that might be part of the issue, have you been able to start windows since finished installing ubuntu ?
[03:30] <Kamaria> Nope.
[03:30] <wj32> Proud_Poppa: enable universe, its in add/remove programs
[03:30] <Kamaria> I haven't been able to start it at all.
[03:30] <Kamaria> But all my files are intact.
[03:30] <Faugn>  Juancab: so, you tried login from the console?
[03:30] <reep> Kamaria: Windows doesn't always like that, you basicly boot from your windows CD and do some fixboot thingy, I read it at the forums somewhere
[03:30] <Pelo> Kamaria,   do you get past the grub menu ?  I mean do you hang just after that or do you get the windows startuf screen ?
[03:30] <vio> Juancab: what graphics card do you have
[03:30] <eck> Pelo: afaik you cannot get helvetica without purchasing a license from linotype, if it was possible to get it for linux i would be very interested
[03:31] <eXcAliBuR> you can only use 1 SSL connection per ip.. so if i want to have 2 SSL connections on the same computer can i use  for example eth0:1 create a fake ip and stick SSL to it?
[03:31] <Juancab> vio: ATI, R300 or something I guess
[03:31] <wj32> eck: copy from your windows install.
[03:31] <Juancab> Faugn: how's that
[03:31] <Kamaria> I tried to boot from it, but my Windows CD hung up as well (although I can try that again.)
[03:31] <wj32> yes, thats another thing. ubuntu needs more fonts
[03:31] <Juancab> Faugn: login in terminal safe mode?, yes
[03:31] <eck> wj32: i don't have windows
[03:31] <Kamaria> Pelo; I can select Windows XP, yes. But the screen clears and goes to 'Starting up...' with a blinking cursor.
[03:31] <vio> Juancab:  type "lspci" in terminal
[03:31] <Kamaria> And never goes past that.
[03:31] <Faugn> Juancab: using Ctrl+Alt+F1, then login, and try to free some space
[03:31] <Pelo> eck,  you could be right for helvetica as a computer font , but I am pretty sure that the typeface itself it copyright free by now
[03:31] <eck> wj32: i think the font format is different anyway
[03:32] <wj32> eck: no, they're mostly ttfs
[03:32] <Pelo> Kamaria,   my guess is that your xp setup is borked and you will need to reinstall,  luckly you have access to your ntfs partition from ubuntu so you'll be able to backup your data
[03:32] <wj32> why does the linux kernel have like 100 copies of B+ tree code
[03:32] <wj32> stupid monolithic
[03:33] <wj32> e.g. in the filesystems
[03:33] <louieb> can someone help me with gparted?
[03:33] <wj32> befs, dlm, efs, xfs, jfs, so on...
[03:33] <Kamaria> Pelo: Would it be a good idea to use the recovery partition on my hard drive? (My PC came with it.)
[03:33] <Kamaria> I don't want to mess up Linux by using it though.
[03:33] <vio> Juancab: this guide should be perfect http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon (graphical guide)
[03:33] <Pelo> Kamaria,  I have never had to use one so I can'T say
[03:33] <wj32> Kamaria: whats wrong?
[03:33] <Juancab> Faugn: if you're going to recommend clean apt-get or something I've gone through that. I have a couple of really big folders in the botting partition that I don't want to errase, and i don't know what to errase
[03:33] <wj32> !ask | louieb
[03:33] <ubotu> louieb: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:34] <Faugn> Juancab: well, you need to make some space!
[03:34] <Pelo> wj32,   kamarina resize the nfts partiton to make room for ubuntu and can'T boot windows anymore ,  hangs right after the grub menu
[03:34] <louieb> ah my apologies. I partitioned my drive with gparted but the flag option is greyed out. I cant select Raid
[03:34] <Juancab> vio: Ok, I did, I get a list, what do you need to know
[03:35] <blues451> Kamaria, the recovery partition begins by completely wiping the drive
[03:35] <wj32> Kamaria: can you still access your files?
[03:35] <Pelo> louieb,   your best bet is to check inthe forum for the info you need, sorry that is the best we seem to be able to provide you with
[03:35] <Kamaria> Yes I can.
[03:35] <vio> Juancab: what graphics card do you have R300?
[03:35] <blues451> try a Windows repair installation first
[03:35] <Faugn> Juancab: maybe remove old kernel images, use apt-get autoremove, remove uneeded packages, make backup and erase some other data...
[03:35] <Kamaria> I don't have a really effective way of backing up...XD.
[03:36] <Juancab> vio: RV370? Radeon X300SE?
[03:36] <louieb> Pelo: yea thanks. I have been looking at forums - in fact I did before I joined here. I am on a system designed to me a server - wonder if there are true raid drivers..
[03:36] <Pelo> Kamaria,  you can copy your data to you /home folder in ubuntu , that should do if you donT' intend to wipe your hdd
[03:36] <vio> Juancab: ok, just follow that step by step guide, and it will be ok (don't miss any steps) http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/upgrade-ubuntu-610-edgy-eft-to-ubuntu.html
[03:36] <Juancab> Faugn: can I backup to the other partition, the one for /home?
[03:37] <vio> Juancab:  wrong link..
[03:37] <Juancab> vio: yes, i don't have feisty faun
[03:37] <vio> Juancab: http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html (this1)
[03:37] <Faugn> Juancab: yes, you can move data to another partition, just make sure not to move anything needed by the ubuntu system
[03:37] <reep> Kamaria: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405715&highlight=fix+windows+boot according to the last post there, supergrub might be the thing for you
[03:37] <vio> Juancab:  you do have enough free space right?
[03:38] <Juancab> Faugn: How do I know, that's why I didn't before
[03:38] <Juancab> The heaviest folders are inside /var and /usr
[03:38] <Faugn> your home is on another partition?
[03:38] <user01> grub question . ..  do i just delete quiet and splash to have a verbose non splash boot up?
[03:38] <eXcAliBuR> you can only use 1 SSL connection per ip.. so if i want to have 2 SSL connections on the same computer can i use  for example eth0:1 create a fake ip and stick SSL to it?
[03:38] <Juancab> vio: not in the partition that it says is full
[03:39] <eck> user01: delete teh quiet and splash options in your menu.lst
[03:39] <Juancab> vio: but I have plenty of space in the /home partition
[03:39] <Kamaria> Pelo: Okay, I'll consider doing that...
[03:39] <Proud_Poppa> wj32.....don't see "Universe" in add/remove programs....
[03:39] <Juancab> vio: I think is a problem with some Backup program
[03:39] <eck> eXcAliBuR: what makes you think you can only have one ssl connection per ip?
[03:39] <Juancab> Faugn: yes, my /home is in another partition
[03:40] <blues451> Kamaria, a Windows repair installation should allow you to boot to XP while preserving your data. Boot from the CD and start the install then choose the "repair an existing installation" option. You may have to repair GRUB when you're done though...
[03:40] <Juancab> Faugn: But I'm worried about some very important files I need to recover from a virtual machine
[03:40] <Proud_Poppa> I have "Music Player", "Totem Movie Player", and "XMMS"
[03:40] <user01> eck: then sudo update-grub ?
[03:40] <eck> user01: no, then you are done :-)
[03:40] <DigitalDeviant> anyone know how to automatically take a screenshot with mplayer? all i could find is the manual way
[03:40] <eXcAliBuR> eck: because i read that somewhere
[03:40] <Faugn> Juancab: what does df -h gives you?
[03:40] <user01> eck: ok then ill test . .. thanks
[03:41] <Kamaria> blues451: How do I repair GRUB?
[03:41] <eck> eXcAliBuR: i'm not sure where you read that, but it is obviously wrong. for example, you can browse to two https sites at once
[03:41] <stephen> where do I go for azureus or java support?
[03:41] <stephen> where do I go for azureus or java support?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!!?
[03:41] <eck> eXcAliBuR: and a web server serves all of its https connections from a single port even
[03:41] <Juancab> vio: I've followed that guide (along a lot more), but it didn't work, and my problem now is that i can't even start ubuntu
[03:42] <eXcAliBuR> eck: maybe u misunderstood the question from a hosting point I want to have for example two website each with it's own ssl cert
[03:42] <blues451> Kamaria, this I'm not sure of but I have seen the process somewhere in the forums. Try to Google the answer
[03:42] <vio> Juancab: 2 sec.. just gonna check 1 thing out
[03:42] <Juancab> Faugn: It gives me that I have the / partition full
[03:42] <Juancab> vio: ok
[03:42] <eck> eXcAliBuR: i think it is fine if you are using virtual hosts and one ip
[03:42] <gnomefreak> stephen: try #azureus or #java?
[03:42] <Faugn> Juancab: can't you apt-get remove some things?
[03:42] <reep> Proud_Poppa: if you have edgy, there's a dropdown box in the topright of add/remove, there you can choose "all available applications" to be able to install from universe and multiverse as well
[03:43] <gnomefreak> stephen: if noone here knows the answer
[03:43] <vio> Faugn: not the right time to do that..
[03:43] <vio> Juancab:  you can try the "open-source" drivers..
[03:43] <Juancab> Faugn: I've tried with open office, without luck, any other suggestion? another software to remove with apt-get?
[03:43] <Pelo> stephen,   #azureus-support
[03:43] <eck> eXcAliBuR: obviously you would need to configure the web server to hand out the right certificate
[03:43] <Faugn> Juancab: anyway, there is no magick solution, delete/move some things, use comon sense.... got to go
[03:43] <juancgt> how can i install the kernel source using apt-get ?
[03:44] <Faugn> Juancab: older kernel images and modules
[03:44] <vio> Juancab: you gotta fix the free space..
[03:44] <eck> juancgt: sudo apt-get source linux-image-generic
[03:44] <Juancab> vio: I don't think is a drivers problem anymore. Can you please see this error: http://pastebin.ca/440092
[03:44] <Mr_Giraffe> !firefox
[03:44] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[03:44] <Faugn> Juancab: only keep the one your runninc
[03:44] <Faugn> *runnir
[03:44] <Mr_Giraffe> agh, that doesn't help.
[03:44] <shooters_> Hi, I have some problems connecting to the freenode IRC networks... it cycles like one billion times and always disconnect with "Connection reset by peer".  I can't even talk with Nickserv... any idea why this is happening?
[03:44] <Faugn> **running
[03:44] <Faugn> :P
[03:44] <Faugn> Juancab: good luck!
[03:44] <Pelo> juancgt, I donT mean to be trite but if you donT' know how you shouldn'T really mess with the kernel
[03:44] <Juancab> Faugn: thanks
[03:45] <asheikh> Hi folks.. How does one go about changing the default applications in gnome -- for example, I wanted to make acroread the default pdf reader -- but I cannot figure out where to set this up
[03:45] <juancgt> Pelo: don't judge. I just don't know how to do it with apt-get and for some reason d/l the bzip didn't seem ubuntu-like
[03:45] <Pelo> asheikh, find a pdf file, right click , properties,  open with ,  select the application
[03:46] <stone-unix> hi, is Feisty RC out??
[03:46] <asheikh> Pelo: I wanted to change the default double-click action
[03:46] <asheikh> There is a pdf I have that I have to use for reference a lot that only works with acroread
[03:46] <Pelo> asheikh,  that will do it
[03:46] <Mr_Giraffe> is there any way to have fonts not anti-aliased and look good?  because turning anti-aliasing off in windows looks good, but it doesn't in ubuntu...
[03:46] <eck> asheikh: you have to change the acroread .desktop file or something like that
[03:47] <Pelo> juancgt,  I am not judging I am advising,
[03:47] <juancgt> Pelo: thanks
[03:47] <NorthWood> Hi all
[03:48] <NorthWood> What about SIMPLE mail 4Ubuntu?
[03:48] <NBrepresen1> hi, which program do i need to open a rar file?
[03:48] <Shaba1> ok folkes how dow I change the screesaver from the command line
[03:48] <asheikh> Pelo: I just tried that -- the first time it works -- but the next time when you double click, it again ends up using evince
[03:48] <eck> Mr_Giraffe: the simple answer is no, see http://www.freetype.org/patents.html
[03:48] <Pelo> NorthWood,  twaht 6
[03:48] <NBrepresen1> file-roller doesn't do it, i guess
[03:48] <dreamcastjack> hey guys
[03:48] <Pelo> NorthWood,  what ?
[03:48] <eck> Mr_Giraffe: the technologies for rendering ttf files properly are patented
[03:48] <Shaba1> the standard xubuntu bricks were fine
[03:48] <NorthWood> Pelo
[03:48] <reep> NBrepresen1: install the unrar package, then you can double click rar files and unpack them
[03:48] <Pelo> asheikh,  try the other advice you ware given ?
[03:48] <nicholim> NBrepresen1: sudo apt-get install unrar
[03:49] <Shaba1> but this bug thing that I was previewing locks the computer up
[03:49] <Pelo> NorthWood, what do you mean by what a bout a simple mail for ubuntu ?
[03:49] <NorthWood> mail without personal information system
[03:49] <NBrepresen1> reep: nicholim, thanks!
[03:49] <Pelo> NorthWood,  you donT' have to put that in
[03:49] <dreamcastjack> here is a possible dumb question.  when I upgrade to 7.04 will It delete my music/Video/Codecs and everything?
[03:49] <asheikh> Pelo: Okay -- looking for a pdf .desktop file.
[03:50] <Pelo> NorthWood,  I just got your meaning,    open up synaptic and search for  mail and see what turns up , one of them might be to your liking
[03:50] <Pathogen246> Anyone know how I can update my video drivers to run WINE and Counterstrike source?
[03:50] <Madpilot> dreamcastjack, not if you upgrade an existing 6.10 install
[03:50] <dreamcastjack> sweet
[03:50] <Madpilot> dreamcastjack, you will probably have to re-enable 3d accel on your vidcard, tho
[03:50] <NorthWood> Pelo thanks
[03:50] <dreamcastjack> will I need to install my Nvidia Driver again?
[03:50] <dreamcastjack> sweet thanks man
[03:50] <cyris> anyone get aoe3 running under wine? im running edgy and the install crashes and it tosses me an exception :S
[03:50] <dreamcastjack> I was worried about it
[03:50] <stephen> Pathogen246: wine doesn't run windows video games or direct3d
[03:51] <stephen> Pathogen246: use vmware with a windows installation
[03:51] <reep> NorthWood: mutt is nice.. has a nice slogan too: "All mail clients suck.
[03:51] <joel> is there a bog that will copy off a dvd /cd/HDD etc and will auto skip over bad sectors?
[03:51] <Madpilot> stephen, lots of Win games run under Wine...
[03:51] <Pathogen246> stephen: I've seen loads of things using wine to istall css
[03:51] <joel> prog*
[03:51] <NorthWood> reep
[03:51] <NorthWood> :)
[03:51] <eck> reep: maybe a long time ago... mutt can't even properly handle nested mail folders though...
[03:52] <eck> reep: or imap mail folders
[03:52] <NorthWood> thunderbird!!!
[03:52] <asheikh> eck: do you which file I have to modify to change the default pdf viewer -- you mentioned a desktop file -- can't find which one
[03:52] <reep> eck: yea I know, but I just enter them manually
[03:52] <NorthWood> it's great :)]
[03:53] <michup> hi, how to setup default mplayer in ff?
[03:53] <Pathogen246> anyone else know what I can do to get CS running in Wine? I have it installed, it just goes black when the menus load up
[03:53] <NorthWood> I use it with windows but don't know that is works with linux too :)
[03:53] <dreamcastjack> alrigth one more question. my system tray has dissapeared..what should I do to get it back?
[03:53] <dreamcastjack> alright^
[03:53] <Shaba1> ok folkes how dow I change the screesaver from the command line
[03:54] <Madpilot> asheikh, just right-click on a PDF, select Open With
[03:54] <reep> Pathogen246: I think #winehq is the place to get help for that
[03:54] <asheikh> Madpilot: I want to permanently set the default pdf viewer
[03:54] <Pathogen246> ok thanks
[03:54] <michup> ive installed mplayer packages but dont know how to setup it to default in ff, when it start loading video its opening via totem
[03:54] <Madpilot> asheikh, same place
[03:55] <asheikh> Madpilot: tried it -- it uses that preference once -- but the next time the default double click action uses evince rather than acroread
[03:55] <RenatoSilva> hi
[03:55] <RenatoSilva> well
[03:55] <reep> dreamcastjack: rightclick an empty spot on the panel and select add to panel
[03:55] <Madpilot> dreamcastjack, right-click on the top bar, select Add To Panel - you probably mean the Notification Area?
[03:55] <RenatoSilva> what about my w300i and ubuntu?????????????????
[03:55] <RenatoSilva> i've connected it to the usb, and my PC does nothing
[03:56] <RenatoSilva> but in Windows it would automatically recognize an USB device
[03:56] <RenatoSilva> what am I supposed to do??
[03:56] <RenatoSilva> help me!
[03:56] <dreamcastjack> yes, like if I close gaim, its usually at the top by the time and it doesnt do taht anymore
[03:56] <NorthWood> what is w300i?
[03:56] <Madpilot> asheikh, right-click on the PDF, go Properties, then Open With - I forgot that to reset the default is in a different place
[03:56] <fiveFS> RenatoSilva: whats a w300i?
[03:56] <NorthWood> sony - ericcson?
[03:56] <RenatoSilva> fiveFS: it's a Sony Ericsson cellphone
[03:57] <asheikh> Madpilot: I have tried that too.
[03:57] <RenatoSilva> NorthWood: yes
[03:57] <fiveFS> did you look at dmesg?
[03:57] <fiveFS> or "tail /var/log/messages"
[03:57] <dreamcastjack> ah okay thanks guys
[03:57] <dreamcastjack> you guys riock
[03:57] <dreamcastjack> rock
[03:57] <asheikh> Madpilot: open with -> other application -> type /usr/bin/acroread.  It uses acroread the first time.  Next time you double click it again uses evince
[03:57] <dreamcastjack> cantw ait til I get in the groove and be able to help people
[03:57] <michup> Totem could not play 'fd://0'.
[03:57] <michup> Video codec 'WVC1' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[03:57] <RenatoSilva> fiveFS: remember me what does this command do?
[03:58] <michup> how to handle this?
[03:58] <kid6> * "tail -f /var/log/messages"
[03:58] <wasyl> what is the command instead of list (like squery alis)?
[03:58] <reep> dreamcastjack: you need to enable a plugin in gaim
[03:58] <fiveFS> RenatoSilva: it will show you the latest system messages, such as where it has detected your usb device at
[03:58] <snarfer> !mysql-dev
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mysql-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <reep> dreamcastjack: for it to show in the system tray
[03:59] <Madpilot> asheikh, works here - not sure what you're doing - sorry...
[03:59] <RenatoSilva> fiveFS: so i grep for usb?
[03:59] <lnx> hi, i have a hp dv8235nr.  I need to find a driver from my nvidia 7400 go gfx card
[03:59] <lnx> can somebody help me out?
[03:59] <dreamcastjack> its cool reep its working now. I must have accidently deleted it from the panel somehow (notificatin)
[03:59] <fiveFS> RenatoSilva: no... just plug in your cell phone and type "tail /var/log/messages"   or even better, type "tail -f /var/log/messages" and then plug in your cell phone
[03:59] <asheikh> Madpilot: The only way I can make it work is if remove evince.  But I don't like that option since it disables pdf previews in nautilus.
[04:00] <wasyl> anyone can help me? just need to find a channel with help or sth, but don't want to use list
[04:00] <dreamcastjack> Thanks alot man
[04:00] <michup> Video codec 'WVC1' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[04:00] <michup> how can i handle this?
[04:00] <asheikh> Madpilot: is there file/directory which maps mimetypes to applications
[04:00] <Madpilot> asheikh, you're right-clicking on a PDF, Properties->Open With->click on Acroread? That works here... I just tested it.
[04:00] <dreamcastjack> i'm enjoying this Amarok Music player. was using XMMS but I dig this much more.
[04:00] <Chadarius> michup: You can try a different video player. I use VLC
[04:00] <NorthWood> wasyl it's help channel i think :)
[04:01] <rancor> amarok is pretty nice
[04:01] <rancor> i like the gui
[04:01] <michup> its actually the film via firefox
[04:01] <Chadarius> yeah amarok is great I use it too
[04:01] <snarfer> I'm trying to install mysql-dev
[04:01] <snarfer> Is there a package?
[04:01] <snarfer> PHP5 has a dependency for it
[04:01] <michup> so i tried to install mplayer mozilla plugin
[04:01] <Chadarius> michup: Install vlc and the vlc plugin
[04:01] <dreamcastjack> i like the notification of what song is coming on.
[04:01] <rancor> have you tried apt-cache search mysql-dev?
[04:01] <michup> vlc plugin for ff?
[04:02] <wasyl> rotfl thx a bit late :P
[04:02] <asheikh> Madpilot: Right click on PDF -> Open with -> "Adobe Reader" .. opens with adobe acrobat reader.  Close, double click on the same pdf, opens with evince.
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> fiveFS: here's the changes
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> fiveFS: Apr 14 23:00:49 renato-desktop kernel: [17210022.716000]  usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[04:02] <Pelo> michup,  you need to remove the totem-mozilla pluggin if hyou want the mplayer one to work
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> Apr 14 23:00:49 renato-desktop kernel: [17210022.724000]  cdc_acm 2-1:1.1: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> Apr 14 23:00:49 renato-desktop kernel: [17210022.732000]  cdc_acm 2-1:1.3: ttyACM1: USB ACM device
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> Apr 14 23:00:57 renato-desktop kernel: [17210031.116000]  usb 2-1: USB disconnect, address 4
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> Apr 14 23:01:17 renato-desktop kernel: [17210050.760000]  usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> Apr 14 23:01:17 renato-desktop kernel: [17210050.940000]  usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> Apr 14 23:01:17 renato-desktop kernel: [17210050.948000]  cdc_acm 2-1:1.1: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> Apr 14 23:01:17 renato-desktop kernel: [17210050.952000]  cdc_acm 2-1:1.3: ttyACM1: USB ACM device
[04:02] <eck> asheikh: http://www.gnome.org/learn/admin-guide/latest/mimetypes-registering.html
[04:02] <zcat[1] > !pastebin > RenatoSilva
[04:02] <asheikh> eck: thanks for the link - i'll check it out
[04:02] <Madpilot> asheikh, no. Go right-click->PROPERTIES
[04:02] <eck> asheikh: i guess you need to create a ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list file
[04:03] <michup> if i try to remove it there are dependencies it will remove ubuntu-desktop
[04:03] <Madpilot> asheikh, then the Open With tab in the Properties window (I'm assuming you're in Gnome, btw)
[04:03] <hackle577> quick question: if i am getting the error "Text file busy" is console, how can I end that process?
[04:03] <michup> im not sure what this package contains
[04:03] <hackle577> *in console
[04:03] <zcat[1] > hackle577, fuser -k filename
[04:03] <michup> and how import it is
[04:04] <Ademan> has anyone used mingw to compile for windows? (from ubuntu)
[04:04] <Madpilot> michup, you can remove ubuntu-desktop - just be sure to reinstall it before you try to upgrade to the next release of Ubuntu.
[04:04] <asheikh> Madpilot: yes, i'm in gnome, right clicking on pdf icon on my desktop
[04:04] <hackle577> zcat[1] : thanks!
[04:05] <Madpilot> asheikh, click Properties, right at the bottom of the right-click menu. use the Open With tab in properties to permanently change what it opens w/
[04:05] <asheikh> eck: thanks for the tip - I think this is what I was looking for
[04:05] <RenatoSilva> hi
[04:05] <RenatoSilva> sorry
[04:05] <hosk> hey
[04:05] <Madpilot> RenatoSilva, next time, use a pastebin.
[04:05] <RenatoSilva> how do i use paste bin???
[04:05] <michup> am i able to remove only totem-mozilla package without removing ubuntu-desktop package
[04:06] <RenatoSilva> Madpilot: bot?
[04:06] <michup> or removing and reinstalling ubuntu-desktop is a properly way
[04:06] <michup> ?
[04:06] <zcat[1] > !pastebin > RenatoSilva
[04:06] <RenatoSilva> Madpilot: are u a bot?
[04:06] <Ax4> anyone know how messages are sent in the terminal?
[04:06] <Madpilot> RenatoSilva, me? No, I'm not.
[04:06] <asheikh> Madpilot: Okay, that was a good tip - that actually worked.
[04:06] <rancor> lol
[04:06] <tbuss> ajehuk: the purge did not seem to work. I still have a lingering .php files in my var/www when I try to test if php4 is installed correctly, the config is is already filled out
[04:06] <RenatoSilva> zcat[1] : i don't understand
[04:06] <hosk> does ubuntu fiesty 7.04 beta come with Qtparted, by any chance? I can't get knoppix to boot
[04:06] <Ax4> would like to begin scripting some ideas, but need a push in the right direction as far as how messages are generated and delivered via BASH
[04:06] <Madpilot> ubotu, pastebin | RenatoSilva
[04:06] <ubotu> RenatoSilva: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:06] <RenatoSilva> zcat[1] : what does it does?
[04:07] <Madpilot> hosk, gparted
[04:07] <asheikh> Madpilot: I just checked -- going to properties and selecting acroread there does work
[04:07] <RenatoSilva> people
[04:07] <RenatoSilva> all people
[04:07] <hosk> er, that's what i meant, 7.04 live comes with that?
[04:07] <RenatoSilva> i jknow what's it
[04:07] <Madpilot> asheikh, yeah, the Open With thing only works for one-offs
[04:07] <zcat[1] > RenatoSilva, click the pastebin link ubotu gave you, and you get a page you can paste stuff into. That page gives you a link to the stuff you pasted, which you can put in here for people to look at.
[04:07] <apolo> hi, anybody knows anything about mysql sever, i got a serious problem
[04:07] <Buckminster> can i do a distro upgrade straight from dapper to feisty?
[04:07] <RenatoSilva> i just want to know how do i do a ctrl + v in that site, get the url and give it back to you
[04:07] <asheikh> Madpilot: thanks, this saves me 100 clicks each day
[04:08] <zcat[1] > .. I didn't explain that too well :)
[04:08] <Madpilot> Buckminster, no. Dapper->Edgy->Feisty
[04:08] <michup> or removing and reinstalling ubuntu-desktop is a properly way
[04:08] <apolo> i have changed my root password in tabale user in mysql database, but i can not connect to mysql by new password
[04:08] <Madpilot> need food. back later.
[04:08] <zcat[1] > so when's 7.04 coming out now? 05?
[04:08] <stephen> Buckminister: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/upgrade-ubuntu-610-edgy-eft-to-ubuntu.html
[04:08] <Buddha|> How do I find out if Ubuntu has support for a particular printer?
[04:08] <stephen> Buckminister: best bet is a clean install... there is less issues
[04:08] <RenatoSilva> zcat[1] : a moment
[04:08] <apolo> if i reinstall the mysql is that work?
[04:08] <Juancab> Please, I have this problem: http://arun-prabha.com/wdpress/?p=301  anybody can help me?
[04:09] <stephen> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20070414/
[04:09] <hendrixski> Buddha|, it probably does.  Just try it first if you can... some don't work too well :-(
[04:09] <nraic> I am getting a Permission denied when try to output terminal commands to files, why is this?
[04:09] <RenatoSilva> zcat[1] : nice!!!!
[04:10] <RenatoSilva> zcat[1] : i'll del.icio.us it!!!
[04:10] <apolo> MySQL ? anybody ?
[04:10] <hendrixski> Buddha|, if you tool around localhost:631 it'll give you an easy install... and somewhere in there is a list of every printer driver known to man
[04:10] <apolo> #mysql
[04:10] <RenatoSilva> zcat[1] : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15725/
[04:10] <zcat[1] > Buddha|, I just go through the add-printer thing and see if the printer's in there. If it's not, I try a similar model and that often works.
[04:10] <RenatoSilva> zcat[1] : the pastes stay there forever??
[04:10] <Buddha|> zcat[1]  - add-printer thing?
[04:10] <Tortel> anyone know what program this is? I had it once but I dont remeber anymore... http://<IP_ADDRESS>/pics/linux2.png
[04:10] <zcat[1] > RenatoSilva, they get recycled after a few days I think
[04:10] <RenatoSilva> so people
[04:10] <RenatoSilva> look at that
[04:10] <RenatoSilva> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15725/
[04:10] <zcat[1] > Buddha|, somewhere in admin, I dunno...
[04:11] <Juancab> I have this problem: http://pastebin.ca/440092, anyone can help?
[04:11] <nraic> ls > new is getting permission denied, why?
[04:11] <theTrav> does acidrip do data cd's as well?
[04:11] <dreamcastjack> i have a quick question
[04:11] <zcat[1] > system > admin > printing > add
[04:11] <RenatoSilva> that's what happened when I've connected my w300i
[04:11] <_bernie> Juancab: you're in a dir where you're not the owner.
[04:11] <RenatoSilva> what does it mean?
[04:11] <hosk> 7.04 uses its own partitioner? does it work as well as Gparted or Qtparted? i need to move some partitions around to get grub in front of windows
[04:11] <RenatoSilva> what should i do?
[04:11] <vio> Tortel: gDesklet?
[04:11] <eck> Juancab: were you able to move /var or /usr?
[04:11] <Juancab> _bernie: How's that?
[04:11] <dreamcastjack> if i switch out a hd for another.. but duel booting w/ both hdds will it mess up my ubuntu partition?
[04:11] <RenatoSilva> hosk: own partitioner?
[04:11] <_bernie> hosk: it's gparted actually
[04:12] <hosk> oh okay
[04:12] <_bernie> Juancab: see: ls -d .
[04:12] <Juancab> eck: no, I didn't try, can you give me a hand now?
[04:12] <RenatoSilva> hosk: where did you listen that?
[04:12] <nraic> _bernie, I doing it with sudo
[04:12] <hosk> i just read an article that said it was like, their own
[04:12] <eck> Juancab: sure
[04:12] <theTrav> arg.  I have a data cd that I want to make an image of (bin), what software package do I need to use?
[04:12] <eck> Juancab: did you create another partition?
[04:12] <RenatoSilva> help me
[04:12] <RenatoSilva> please
[04:12] <RenatoSilva> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15725/
[04:12] <_bernie> Juancab: the redirection happens *before* you become root
[04:13] <hosk> can gparted move partitions?
[04:13] <Tortel> vio: yeah, it is, thanks!
[04:13] <_bernie> hosk: yes... depends on the fs I think
[04:13] <wj32> how long does compiling the kernel usually take?
[04:13] <Chadarius> theTrav: a bin or an ISO?
[04:13] <theTrav> Chadarius, yes
[04:13] <theTrav> I want to create images of my cd's so I don't have to carry a case of external media around with me
[04:13] <hosk> i want to move my ntfs partition unless i had awesome forethought and left like... how much is it for grub? a meg or two?
[04:13] <_bernie> are there any chan ops?
[04:13] <RenatoSilva> _bernie: fs? i don't think so
[04:14] <Juancab> eck: not yet, but are you sure the vmware will not be damaged?
[04:14] <arrenlex> hosk: Your kernels live in /boot so best to leave at least 100MB for it.
[04:14] <Juancab> _bernie: What does "becaming root" means?
[04:14] <arrenlex> !root
[04:14] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:14] <RenatoSilva> _bernie: the filesystem resides into a partition and have nothing about what happen outside
[04:14] <Bales> anyone know if there's a linux gaming channel?
[04:14] <reep> theTrav: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=thecd.iso
[04:14] <_bernie> Juancab: you were using sudo and redirection, yes?
[04:14] <eck> Juancab: ifyou have enough space in /home you can copy it there just to be safe
[04:14] <theTrav> reep, what's dd?
[04:15] <Shaba1> hello
[04:15] <hosk> arrenlex: for dual boots? i thought your HDD went like, grub, then OS1, then OS2, all in their own little partitions
[04:15] <_bernie> Juancab: sudo allows you to execute a command as the superuser (root in unix-ish slang)
[04:15] <Shaba1> can anyone tell me how to change the ubuntu screen saver from the command line
[04:15] <theTrav> ok, man says convert and copy
[04:15] <Bales> anyone know if there's a linux gaming channel?
[04:15] <Shaba1> I have one now that lockes up my laptop
[04:15] <Juancab> _bernie: yes but sudo with what?
[04:15] <Shaba1> every time I even go to the screesaver app
[04:15] <_bernie> RenatoSilva: I thought some filesystems used absolute block numbers internally (absolute = from the start of the disk)
[04:15] <theTrav> so once I've done that I can mount it as a cd with a different command?
[04:15] <reep> theTrav: yes, in this case it will copy the cd to an image
[04:15] <vox754> !repeat > Bales
[04:16] <theTrav> or burn it to another cd?
[04:16] <arrenlex> hosk: The grub configuration lives on /boot, which is usually part of the Linux partition.
[04:16] <RenatoSilva> does anyone know how to JUST connect my cellphone to my PC without having to write a kernel module or something like? kkkk
[04:16] <eck> _bernie: that was a different user, nraic
[04:16] <Bales> sorry about that, my comp locked up and didnt show I had sent the message
[04:16] <_bernie> Juancab: if you do: sudo echo foo > bar, you actually write to foo as yourself, not root.
[04:16] <RenatoSilva> _bernie: underground filesystems? :D
[04:16] <reep> theTrav: to burn, use that dd command, then right click the resulting .iso-file, and select burn to disk
[04:16] <_bernie> eck: oops, sorry
[04:16] <RenatoSilva> _bernie: it's not reiser, ext, fat, ntfs, right? rsss
[04:17] <zcat[1] > theTrav, to mount it locally; mount -o loop thecdimage.iso /media/cdrom
[04:17] <_bernie> eck, Juancab: I closed the channel and opened it back... got the wrong user
[04:17] <RenatoSilva> w300i
[04:17] <RenatoSilva> someone?
[04:17] <RenatoSilva> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15725/
[04:17] <theTrav> ok sweet, thanks reep and zcat
[04:17] <_bernie> RenatoSilva: I think there was a grid somewhere with parted capabilities for each fs. try googling for it
[04:17] <tbuss> reep: tried to purge apache2/php4/libapache2  after the purge I try to install php4 and it tells me the newest version is already installed
[04:17] <_bernie> eck: who was the other guy?
[04:18] <vox754> !repeat > RenatoSilva
[04:18] <vox754> !enter > RenatoSilva
[04:18] <gnufied>  extended attributes are enabled on stock ubuntu dapper kernels?
[04:18] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: Hey is this a problem you are having when you are using bluetooth dialup?
[04:18] <etzerd> Hello all
[04:18] <eck> _bernie: the nick was nraic, i guess they left
[04:18] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: I think I'm having the same issue in Feisty Beta
[04:18] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: no, think simpler
[04:18] <etzerd> can anyone tell me whe the new version 7.04 will be release?
[04:18] <anandanbu> does anyone know about Scribes and how to install it in Ubuntu
[04:18] <_bernie> eck: oh, mean...
[04:19] <reep> tbuss: yet php4 isn't installed?
[04:19] <eck> etzerd: it should be april 19
[04:19] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: it's just that i want to plug my cellphone on PC and transfer files, like the CD software for windows!
[04:19] <etzerd> Thanks eck
[04:19] <_bernie> Anybody from boston here?
[04:19] <Juancab> eck: It's funny this time (with the CD) It seems to recognize my video card, I have a better resolution now
[04:19] <zcat[1] > eck, I read the RC was held back a few days and the final probably will be too....
[04:19] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: OK and....?
[04:20] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: and?
[04:20] <hosk> i think if i'm going to dual boot my computer, i'm going to need another beer.
[04:20] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: and it doesn't work!!
[04:20] <Juancab> eck: that's something I didn't achive with lots of Howtos
[04:20] <tbuss> reep: I purged php4 and I saw a long list of files....
[04:20] <theTrav> hmm, now that's weird
[04:20] <theTrav> my drive wouldn't mount the cd to start with
[04:20] <Juancab> eck: Ironic
[04:20] <etzerd> eck: do you tried the beta version: If you do how safe it is so I can install it instead of the 6.10
[04:20] <tbuss> reep: php4*
[04:20] <theTrav> something about the cd being read only
[04:20] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: what software are you using to try doing it?
[04:20] <reep> tbuss: hm... could you paste: "aptitude search apache2 php" ?
[04:21] <tbuss> reep: sure
[04:21] <zcat[1] > theTrav, usually it mounts it fine, it just -warns- that it will be read-only...
[04:21] <stapolo> oin #hardware
[04:21] <denys> hey, is there some special way to connect to wireless networks that are not broadcasting? (assuming i have the ESSID and the password) Because I just can't seem to connect to my school network if i just put the ESSID and password in the network settings. Yet i can connect easily if i boot from my windows partition.
[04:21] <theTrav> yeah, well I'll come back to that one
[04:21] <theTrav> I moved on to a cd that will be recognised
[04:22] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: I plug my cellphone on USB and the distro aka such a "pitch" (it receivers well almost every such a thing having an USB tail kkkkk) doesn't liked this device this time
[04:22] <eck> etzerd: i have been using feisty for a couple of months without any problems, but as usual ymmv
[04:22] <theTrav> and when I run dd if=/media/cdrom0 of=test.iso I get nothing read
[04:22] <void60606> hello alll
[04:22] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: operating system auto-detection for USB!
[04:22] <tbuss> reep: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15726/
[04:22] <reep> theTrav: you should unmount the cd, then run dd if=/dev/cdrom of=test.iso
[04:22] <|Jason8|> Hello everyone, I just installed a .deb package, how can I uninstall it?
[04:22] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: what phone are you using?
[04:23] <theTrav> oh
[04:23] <theTrav> unmount it first
[04:23] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: like Windows does!
[04:23] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: w300i
[04:23] <zcat[1] > eck, I'm using feisty now... there's a borken-network icon in the system tray though, and obviously my network is working. any ideas?
[04:23] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: sony ericsson
[04:23] <RenatoSilva> does anyone have tested the Feisty's support for soft modems?
[04:23] <etzerd> eck: sorry I'm new to linux, can you tell me which desktop you rather use  Gnome or KDE and Y
[04:23] <RenatoSilva> specifically, Agere modems?
[04:24] <theTrav> unmount is dragging to the trash right?
[04:24] <RenatoSilva> i'm sad
[04:24] <reep> tbuss: the lines starting with c are packages that are uninstalled, but not purged ( c for configfiles)
[04:24] <eck> zcat[1] : there's always somethign wrong with network manager, i wish i could help you
[04:24] <reep> tbuss: the php5 packages are not purged, I would try purging them
[04:24] <RenatoSilva> i love my phone, and my Ubuntu, but they doesn't do each another!! rsss
[04:25] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: So does Windows mount a drive or something when you plug the phone in? If not then you will need some kind of special software to transfer files. Like moto4lin has for the Motorola Razor
[04:25] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: like this http://veinhammer.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/motorola-razr-ubuntu-linux/
[04:25] <eck> zcat[1] : it is working for me right now, but the network manager vpn stuff is broken
[04:25] <zcat[1] > eck, just occured to me. I should just switch off network manager from loading in my session. problem solved :)
[04:25] <RenatoSilva> i guess Windows and w300i would love themselves ! but I don't want give up with "Urubu"
[04:25] <theTrav> hmm, how do I unmount?
[04:25] <tbuss> reep: just to make sure, sudo apt-get --purge remove php5
[04:25] <eck> zcat[1] : are you using a wired connection?
[04:25] <zcat[1] > yeah. NM is for wifi?
[04:26] <reep> tbuss: yes, or sudo aptitude purge php5
[04:26] <eck> zcat[1] : i think i might have turned off my interfaces from doing dhcp so nm could start them up
[04:26] <zcat[1] > anyhow.. gotta go. back some other day
[04:26] <eck> zcat[1] : it works with both, but if you don't need wireless it's sort of pointless
[04:26] <theTrav> ahh it's umount
[04:26] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: actually i don't know if Windows recognizes, at least a manufacture's CD with Windows soft i have
[04:26] <theTrav> I assumed it'd be unmount
[04:26] <theTrav> crazy abbreviations
[04:26] <eck> theTrav: welcome to unix :-)
[04:26] <tbuss> reep: purged says I need to apt-get autoremove some files
[04:27] <eck> theTrav: see also resolv.conf
[04:27] <hosk> oh, i have another question: what are the odds of my 7.04b disc working almost flawlessly if it gets 1 checksum fail after i boot to it and test it
[04:27] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: i've seen some bug related at launchpad, but it's not clear
[04:27] <reep> tbuss: try with aptitude
[04:27] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: he says will add a patch to something and all that technical words
[04:27] <RenatoSilva> w300i please! :D
[04:28] <RenatoSilva> what are your cellphones??? better than mine?  :D
[04:28] <eck> the worst one is creat instead of create
[04:28] <tbuss> reep: used php5 but it looks like mostly php4 files were removed
[04:29] <RenatoSilva> some Brazillian here?
[04:29] <RenatoSilva> we are having the fisl8.0, did you noticed?
[04:29] <reep> tbuss: make sure you get all php5 packages: aptitude search php5 | grep ^c
[04:29] <nayif> !info sa
[04:29] <ubotu> Package sa does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[04:30] <nayif> !sa
[04:30] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: So are those tty devices the only thing that shows up when you plug the phone in?
[04:30] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[04:30] <reep> tbuss: they should come back afterwards when you reinstall php4
[04:30] <wj32> !au
[04:30] <ubotu> au is the Australian LoCo Team has a channel at #ubuntu-au
[04:30] <nayif> wj32: hehe
[04:30] <tbuss> reep: ok, looking
[04:30] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: that were the changes right at connecting the device
[04:31] <c_lisp> how can you stop recent documents from saving in gnome?
[04:31] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: in messages file
[04:31] <wj32> will existing modules work with my custom kernel?
[04:31] <eck> wow, arabic looks really bad in my terminal
[04:31] <wj32> i really dont want to set up fglrx again
[04:31] <wj32> and vmware
[04:32] <tbuss> reep: run sudo aptitude purge on all file listed php5 | grep ^c
[04:32] <RenatoSilva> hey
[04:33] <RenatoSilva> 8th Free Sofware International Forum at Curitiba, Brazi!!!!
[04:33] <reep> tbuss: ok, try reinstalling php4 now
[04:33] <RenatoSilva> Did yopu noticed??? :D
[04:33] <tbuss> reep: hold on, i mistyped a few
[04:34] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: Did you try http://www.kmobiletools.org/?
[04:34] <theTrav> hmm, can I run this dd command in a way that will give me any sort of live progress indication?
[04:34] <denys> how do i connect to a hidden SSID?
[04:34] <wj32> 4 days until feisty!
[04:35] <Dano> I can't wait!
[04:35] <eck> denys: just add the ssid (and possibly ap mac address) in your iwconfig command
[04:35] <RenatoSilva> download kde from dial up it's a kind of impossible!
[04:35] <RenatoSilva> rss
[04:35] <eck> theTrav: watch -n 1 ls -lh the_file_you_are_dding_to
[04:35] <NewbieBaba> hey - Which MP3 Player do u prefer?
[04:36] <Juancab> eck: how do I copy the folder /mnt/sda1/var/vm in /home?
[04:36] <wj32> NewieBaba: you mean on the computer or portable
[04:36] <HelPmEe> need help
[04:36] <NewbieBaba> :) on ubuntu yea
[04:36] <wj32> NewbieBaba: I use iPod. On comp, I use QuodLibet
[04:36] <foxiness> wj32, 0 days for me ;)
[04:36] <stpaols> join #c
[04:36] <eck> Juancab: i would just do: cd ~; tar -cvzf vm.tar.gz -C /mnt/sda1/var vm
[04:36] <kungfugoat> I just finished reading this paper: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/
[04:37] <Falstius> anyone know the kernel switch to disable acpi or force apm?
[04:37] <eck> Juancab: that will create a gzipped tar file of vm
[04:37] <kungfugoat> very nice
[04:37] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: kde + dialup  = bad idea :D, and last update was about 1 year = bad ideia :D
[04:37] <wj32> kungfugoat: great. now read "Free as in Freedom"
[04:37] <eck> Juancab: same thing as for theTrav, you can use watch and ls to see the progress
[04:38] <eck> Juancab: of course, you want to cd to the partition that has the space
[04:38] <HelPmEe> this is probably really basic for some of you but..... if i have a file with adresses , people names,etc  and they are separated by a blank line.... how can I sort the list without these lines?
[04:38] <wj32> (someone give HelPmEe a complicated perl script)
[04:38] <theTrav> thanks eck
[04:39] <Shaba1> folks
[04:39] <wj32> yes?
[04:39] <eck> HelPmEe: if none of the lines are repeated you can just use uniq, but that is of course not the best solution
[04:39] <Shaba1> how do I get gedit to show hiddenfiles
[04:39] <wj32> Shaba1: right-click on the file list, click "Show Hidden Files"
[04:39] <RenatoSilva> kungfugoat: please take care to avoid becoming what we call here in Brazil as "Ubuntonos" and "GNU/Chatos" :D
[04:40] <ravalox> Hey, I'm trying to run Joomla and I can't get apache to handle php in Ubuntu it seems, it keeps trying to hand me a phtml file stream rather than display the content in a page.
[04:40] <tbuss> reep: okay, php4 installed
[04:40] <wj32> the annoying thing is the file list doesn't have actions like new, cut, copy, paste, delete so on
[04:40] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: You seem to be at an impass. Because it does not create a data device and only creates TTY devices you definatly need some specific software to transfer files
[04:40] <ravalox> How can I get apache with working php in ubuntu?
[04:40] <Shaba1> ok that workd
[04:40] <Shaba1> now
[04:40] <wj32> GNU = GNU Needs Users
[04:40] <Shaba1> Options to xscreensaver are stored in one of two places: in a .xscreensaver file in your home directory;
[04:40] <wj32> GNU = Generally Not Used
[04:40] <InnerFIRE_> anyone use democracytv?
[04:40] <reep> tbuss: working any better now?
[04:40] <eck> HelPmEe: got it, grep -v "^$" foo.txt
[04:41] <kungfugoat> wj32: thanks
[04:41] <Shaba1> I do not see an .xscreensaver directory
[04:41] <eck> wj32: no perl :-)
[04:41] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: that is, Ubuntu absolutely don't know what the hell was plugged on into my PC ass? :D
[04:41] <wj32> kungfugoat: thanks for what
[04:41] <wj32> eck: damn. i thought perl was good at text parsing and sorting
[04:41] <HelPmEe> eck: what is the -v standing for?
[04:41] <kungfugoat> wj32: the first page alone is making for interesting reading
[04:41] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: thanks to Sony Ericsson too for don't providing linux software :D
[04:41] <eck> HelPmEe: match lines that _don't_ match the regex
[04:41] <wj32> kungfugoat: I've only read FaiF twice
[04:42] <eck> wj32: it is, but i don't know grep and not perl :-)
[04:42] <dreamcastjack> okay, I'm duel booting Ubuntu 6.10 and Puppy 2.15CE.  I wanna  change out the Puppy HDD for another 40GB Hdd that I Have,  I wanna put Freespire 2.0 on it when its out.  will replaceing a Duel-Booted HDD mess my Edgy install up?  thanks.
[04:42] <kungfugoat> RenatoSilva: I'll take care
[04:42] <RenatoSilva> kungfugoat: :D
[04:42] <wj32> i'm not going to respond to anyone now, me going off to do some work
[04:42] <bluefox83> what module do you need to load to get the installer dvd to be able to see/use fat32?
[04:42] <RenatoSilva> kungfugoat: where are you from?
[04:42] <Juancab> eck: I can't cd ~
[04:42] <tbuss> reep: I noticed during the php4 install that it said forcing reload of apache, I'm going to test the php4 install
[04:43] <eck> Juancab: where do you have /home mounted?
[04:43] <RenatoSilva> Juancab: why?
[04:43] <eck> Juancab: you just need to move to a directory that has space before you execute the command
[04:43] <eck> i.e. on anohter partition
[04:43] <kungfugoat> RenatoSilva: I was born right above you in British Guiana (now Guyana)
[04:43] <Juancab> eck: /mnt/sda2
[04:43] <RenatoSilva> Juancab: the error, pelase?
[04:43] <kungfugoat> I now live in the U.S.
[04:43] <tbuss> reep: to be honest with you I think my head is about to explode
[04:44] <user01> is there a command to see how much physical memory is installed?
[04:44] <RenatoSilva> kungfugoat: wow, nice
[04:44] <eck> Juancab: then cd to /mnt/sda2 and run the tar command with sudo
[04:44] <pyrak> can someone help me print to a network printer?
[04:44] <Juancab> RenatoSilva: command not found
[04:44] <pyrak> im in the wizard on the driver part
[04:44] <Chadarius> RenatoSilva: Actually Ubuntu knows EXACTLY what was plugged in. Its a standard com port
[04:44] <InnerFIRE_> democracyplayer depends on python (<< 2.5); however:
[04:44] <RenatoSilva> kungfugoat: but you don't speark Portuguese, right?
[04:44] <InnerFIRE_>   Version of python on system is 2.5.1~rc1-0ubuntu3.
[04:44] <InnerFIRE_> 2.5 is installed
[04:44] <kungfugoat> RenatoSilva: no
[04:44] <kjared1> Anyone here using Beryl?
[04:44] <kungfugoat> I wish I did
[04:44] <InnerFIRE_> I am
[04:44] <Chadarius> kjared1: Yeah I use it... sometimes
[04:44] <dreamcastjack> i've used beryl
[04:44] <reep> tbuss: remember to breathe
[04:44] <wj32> !ask | EVERYONE
[04:44] <ubotu> EVERYONE: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:44] <reep> tbuss: it didn't work?
[04:44] <kungfugoat> RenatoSilva: blame the British
[04:44] <kjared1> What is the minimum video controller requirements - 128MB Nvidia/ATI?
[04:45] <kungfugoat> :p
[04:45] <tbuss> reep: something is not right.....
[04:45] <RenatoSilva> kungfugoat: what?
[04:45] <InnerFIRE_> where can i find mozilla-psm
[04:45] <reep> tbuss: does a <?=phpinfo()?> work?
[04:45] <kungfugoat> RenatoSilva: I was referring to the British occupation, instead of the portuguese or dutch
[04:45] <kjared1> Chadarius, how much RAM on vid controller do I need to use it?
[04:46] <tbuss> reep: should there be a .php test file in /var/www/ that already has the text <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[04:46] <RenatoSilva> Chadarius: for Ubuntu it's something, the hell anything, with an USB cable, don't? Or EXACTLY: a Sony Ericsson W300i Cellphone??? :D
[04:46] <tbuss> reep: I had to set this up initially last time, why is it still there,  because it doesn't work
[04:47] <RenatoSilva> kungfugoat: bad English, dunno what's 'blame' :D
[04:47] <tbuss> reep: breathing
[04:47] <theTrav> hmm,
[04:47] <CokeNCode> anyone else having a problem with gaim crashing
[04:47] <theTrav> can I mount nrg files same as iso?
[04:47] <CokeNCode> a certain person on my list, whenever i talk to them
[04:47] <RenatoSilva> CokeNCode: version?
[04:47] <CokeNCode> my gaim crashes
[04:47] <theTrav> or does nero use a different format?
[04:47] <kungfugoat> RenatoSilva: to hold responsible
[04:47] <Chadarius> kjared1: I am not totally sure but I have used in with 64, 128 and 256 cards
[04:47] <kjared1> CNC - gaim doesn't kike proxies, is your friend using one?
[04:47] <RenatoSilva> CokeNCode: the existence of such a messenger is by itself a problem! :D
[04:47] <mina_linux_Tux> hey i'm using reconstructor , there is 2 options Alternate install CD and Desktop Live CD , which of them i have to use to make an iso installation image of my current running System , i tried Alternate CD , i were Asked to browse a working directory , what is this working directory or instead there to check create remaster and create initial ramdisk, that's in case i'll not keep my working directory contents , any content ..
[04:47] <mina_linux_Tux> pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[04:47] <kjared1> (like, not kike)
[04:47] <reep> tbuss: it's probably not there from installing, but /var/www doesn't get removed, even when purging...
[04:48] <kungfugoat> RenatoSilva: they're responsible for me speaking only english
[04:48] <CokeNCode> 2.0.0 beta 3.1
[04:48] <RenatoSilva> kungfugoat: are you responsible for England, is that? :D
[04:48] <kungfugoat> RenatoSilva: there are a lot of people that speak english and some dutch there, but no portuguese
[04:48] <tbuss> reep: I just thought since it was a php file that I created from the last php4 install that it would have been removed
[04:48] <reep> tbuss: you still get the dialog to open or save file?
[04:48] <CokeNCode> RenatoSilva, eh ... how so ? it's bugging the hell outo f me
[04:48] <RenatoSilva> kungfugoat: a prince?
[04:48] <CokeNCode> i need to switch over to amsn
[04:48] <CokeNCode> which is always creating a heap of connections
[04:48] <mina_linux_Tux> please any comment ...
[04:48] <kungfugoat> RenatoSilva: it's the other way around
[04:49] <mina_linux_Tux> may any one answer me
[04:49] <InnerFIRE_> wtf does anyone at all have any information into getting democracy player to work
[04:49] <dreamcastjack> okay, I'm duel booting Ubuntu 6.10 and Puppy 2.15CE. I wanna change out the Puppy HDD for another 40GB Hdd that I Have, I wanna put Freespire 2.0 on it when its out. will replacing a Duel-Booted HDD mess my Edgy install up? thanks.
[04:49] <tbuss> reep: no..............I need to take a break :)
[04:49] <RenatoSilva> kungfugoat: definitely i have to train my English :D
[04:49] <mina_linux_Tux> am i talking to myself here or what ?
[04:49] <lnx> hey could somebody find a driver for nvidia 7400Go Graphics card?  im running edgy eft
[04:49] <RenatoSilva> CokeNCode: many, all the time?
[04:49] <mina_linux_Tux> does anyone knows about this Reconstructor ?
[04:49] <eck> dreamcastjack: you can't mess anything up unless you remove the partition with the grub stage 1.5 files
[04:49] <RenatoSilva> CokeNCode: your version?
[04:50] <dreamcastjack> okay thanks.
[04:50] <RenatoSilva> CokeNCode: i'm with 2.0...00006 beta
[04:50] <dreamcastjack> how would I know which has the files?
[04:50] <Falstius> dreamcastjack: to add to what eck said, even if you do remove the drive with grub you can put the HD back and things will be fine.  Grub could then be installed to the other HD.
[04:50] <Juancab> eck: Sorry I don't have it clear, I have the partition for / mounted in /mnt/sda1, and inside it a folder /var/vm/ and you want me to compress it doing cd to /mnt/sda2?
[04:50] <mina_linux_Tux> any comment , ppl ?
[04:50] <eck> dreamcastjack: don't remove the partition that has the distro you used to install grub
[04:50] <lnx> hey could somebody find a driver for nvidia 7400Go Graphics card?  im running edgy eft
[04:50] <CokeNCode> 2.0.0 beta 3.1
[04:50] <CokeNCode> RenatoSilva,
[04:50] <reep> tbuss: I'm thinking you might have saved some time by just reinstalling ubuntu, and then install the gallery package ^^
[04:51] <RenatoSilva> CokeNCode: what?
[04:51] <eck> Juancab: you are going to create a tar.gz file with the contents of /var/vm . but since your / partition is full, you need to create the .tar.gz on a different partition
[04:51] <dreamcastjack> just to be safe how do I make sure my Ubuntu one is the grub holder?
[04:51] <tbuss> reep: I think you are right, but the dialog box is gone now
[04:51] <Chadarius> !nvidia
[04:51] <CokeNCode> RenatoSilva, i just told you the version of gaim i'm using
[04:51] <reep> tbuss: oh well, but do take a break, I think you've been at it for hours, and I just realized it's 5 in the morning and I should be in bed by now :)
[04:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:52] <mina_linux_Tux> any commment ?
[04:52] <eck> Juancab: so it doesn't matter where you create it, but if /home is on another partition then that is as good as any other place
[04:52] <mina_linux_Tux> please it's really urgent , am i off topic ?
[04:52] <tbuss> reep: ok reep, thanks for all you help take it easy
[04:52] <lnx> thanks
[04:52] <RenatoSilva> CokeNCode: no!
[04:52] <RenatoSilva> CokeNCode: you didn't !!!
[04:52] <RenatoSilva> CokeNCode: please!!!
[04:52] <atselby> can anyone help me with this?
[04:53] <atselby> I need to know hte command to edit the sessions for gnome via terminalline
[04:53] <Falstius> dreamcastjack: depending on your system, you may NEED the first drive to be the one with grub (hda or primary master).  You should just make sure grub is installed to that.  Check the boot order of your machine.
[04:53] <HelPmEe> eck: As i told you for the file with blank lines....how would i be able to know the number of people in the file ? ( wc )
[04:54] <Juancab> eck: It says "sudo: cd: command not found"
[04:54] <vox754> mina_linux_Tux, you've asked for over three hours... I guess nobody knows
[04:54] <dreamcastjack> ah okay, Ubuntu is then.
[04:54] <dreamcastjack> thanks again guys
[04:54] <eck> HelPmEe: i would grep for the pattern that shows lines with people (e.g. ^Person: ) and then use wc to count the output of that
[04:54] <InnerFIRE_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:54] <InnerFIRE_>   democracyplayer: Depends: python (< 2.5) but 2.5.1~rc1-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[04:54] <InnerFIRE_>                    Depends: mozilla-dev but it is not installable
[04:54] <InnerFIRE_>                    Depends: mozilla-psm but it is not installable
[04:54] <eck> HelPmEe: or if there is one blank line per entry in the file, you could just grep for blank lines and use wc on that
[04:54] <SpAc> is there some info on how to fix the nasty looking fonts in emacs?
[04:55] <dc> hello all
[04:55] <dc> can someone help me?
[04:55] <dreamcastjack> Ubuntu 7.04 and Freespire 2.0 cant wait to have them both.. damn Linux is liek crack
[04:55] <RenatoSilva> i give up
[04:55] <mina_linux_Tux> vox754: so and no one answered me , i'm now on this Reconstructor , i want to create Customized Install CD from running system
[04:55] <RenatoSilva> will format and install windows
[04:55] <eck> Juancab: that is because cd is a bash built in, you just need to use sudo with the tar command, not with cd
[04:55] <dc> no one is savy enough to help me :(
[04:55] <Avalos> RenatoSilva,  posso ajudar =)
[04:55] <|Jason8|> Hello everyone, I just installed a .deb package, how can I uninstall it?
[04:55] <eck> !ask | dc
[04:55] <ubotu> dc: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:55] <RenatoSilva> Avalos: aeee, brasileiros!!!!
[04:55] <helloyo> has anyone here encoded video for there mobile? could somebody please help me out with it?
[04:56] <gobbles414> need help with special characters please
[04:56] <vox754> mina_linux_Tux, a lot of people answered, but nobody knows...
[04:56] <dc> thanks
[04:56] <Avalos> RenatoSilva,  heheh qq tah pegando ?
[04:56] <RenatoSilva> Avalos: conectar mey sony ericsson w300i no ubuntu
[04:56] <wj32> !ask | EVERYONE
[04:56] <ubotu> EVERYONE: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:56] <RenatoSilva> Avalos: eu plugo e nada acontece
[04:56] <user01> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b when i do glxinfo |grep direct
[04:56] <vox754> wj32, very clever
[04:56] <RenatoSilva> Avalos: suporte nativo nao tem, e alguma app que reconhea o troco
[04:56] <RenatoSilva> Avalos: ?
[04:56] <gobbles414> hi ubotu... I have a question about typing accents
[04:56] <wj32> vox754: :)
[04:57] <dc> I need to rotate the screen on my laptop 180 degrees.  how do i do it?
[04:57] <RenatoSilva> Avalos: apt-get install troo
[04:57] <dc>  I need to rotate the screen on my laptop 180 degrees.  how do i do it?
[04:57] <Avalos> aq quando vc pluga sai alguma mensagem no syslog?
[04:57] <dc> oops
[04:57] <wj32> gobbles414: ubotu is a bot.
[04:57] <eck> dc: it is an option in the gnome screen resolution thing
[04:57] <dreamcastjack> so I wont have to reinstall All the programs I installed with just upgrading, right?
[04:57] <dc> eck: it is greyed out
[04:57] <RenatoSilva> Avalos: inciciar > troo > detectar fone > transf arquivos
[04:57] <RenatoSilva> Avalos: isso q quero
[04:57] <gobbles414> ah... then maybe you can help me wj32?
[04:57] <clever[rev] > dv: man xrandr
[04:57] <eXcAliBuR> if i'm using putty to connect to my ubuntu server and the network goes down and i get cut off.. is there any way to recover the session?
[04:57] <wj32> gobbles414: maybe.
[04:57] <dc> clever: was that to me?
[04:58] <RenatoSilva> Avalos: mas to give upando, vou formatar e vou pro Windows
[04:58] <SpAc> programs like emacs have a nasty non-anti-aliased font... is there a way I can fix that?
[04:58] <clever[rev] > dc: yes
[04:58] <vox754> !br | RenatoSilva Avalos
[04:58] <ubotu> RenatoSilva Avalos: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:58] <eck> SpAc: with emacs you need to grab emacs 22 or something
[04:58] <clever[rev] > dc: open a terminal and run 'man xrandr'
[04:58] <RenatoSilva> ubotu: sorry
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <gobbles414> thanks wj32... I am trying to enable the typing of accents (special characters) in word processor and internet
[04:58] <RenatoSilva> ubotu: ok
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <vox754> !thanks | RenatoSilva Avalos
[04:58] <ubotu> RenatoSilva Avalos: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[04:58] <SpAc> eck, so the one in the repos is a bit old?
[04:58] <eck> SpAc: i am not really sure, my roommate had to grab cvs for emacs. whether an application has nice fonts or not depends on how it is coded
[04:58] <RenatoSilva> it's because he speaks this way, sorry
[04:59] <eck> SpAc: i think the one in feisty might have it
[04:59] <twiztr> Hey, I am trying to remotely access my other box (192.168.1.xxx) from this computer... How do that.
[04:59] <twiztr> they ar both Ubutu 6.10
[04:59] <vox754> !english | RenatoSilva Avalos
[04:59] <ubotu> RenatoSilva Avalos: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[04:59] <RenatoSilva> ubotu: oh bots!!! you're a constant in my life
[04:59] <SpAc> eck: not too worried about 'nice', it's just hard to read!
[04:59] <wj32> gobbles414: you can. but not easily
[04:59] <SpAc> eck: let me see what I've got...
[04:59] <wj32> gobbles414: so..
[04:59] <RenatoSilva> vox754: ok!!!!
[04:59] <wj32> gobbles414: wait
[04:59] <Madsy2> Ok, I just recently had a power faliure here, which proved fatal. Now I can't even boot my filesystem. I've booted up my knoppix CD. Is it possible to fix my ubuntu ext3 partition from there?
[04:59] <Madsy2> http://rafb.net/p/TwuedD99.html
[05:00] <RenatoSilva> well can someone give me tips about other nice channels outthere?
[05:00] <gobbles414> wj32... I can do it if helped step-by-step.  Can you help like that... or do you have a link?
[05:00] <wj32> gobbles414: how did you do it in Windows
[05:00] <RenatoSilva> #ubuntu-political???
[05:00] <|Jason8|> Hello everyone, I just installed a .deb package, how can I uninstall it?
[05:00] <Madsy2> Also, can I run fsck in user mode? And do I have to mount my partition first?
[05:00] <RenatoSilva> #foss?
[05:00] <dreamcastjack> Jason use Synaptic
[05:00] <Juancab> eck: How do I know if it's ready?
[05:01] <vox754> RenatoSilva, stay away from political discussions. You can create your own channel like ##Renato, and speak to people there privately
[05:01] <wj32> hey, whats the compose key for?
[05:01] <gobbles414> ALT + 160
[05:01] <eck> Juancab: when the tar command completes
[05:01] <clever[rev] > Madsy2: fsck runs in usermode and cant run on a mounted partition
[05:01] <RenatoSilva> vox754: aff!!!
[05:01] <eck> Juancab: you can check the file size with ls -lh to see theprogress
[05:01] <RenatoSilva> vox754: tell me nice channels :P
[05:01] <SpAc> is anyone using emacs to code ruby?
[05:01] <RenatoSilva> vox754: i know only this!
[05:02] <RenatoSilva> vox754: i'm asking for political channels cause logically i don't want to do it here! :P
[05:02] <dreamcastjack> is the 7.04 final gonna include CNR service?
[05:02] <eck> SpAc: i guess emacs 22 uses gtk and can use the gnome font settings, or something like that. it is going to be released later this month
[05:02] <gobbles414> oh... ALT + 160 gives a lowercase a with an accent
[05:03] <RenatoSilva> dreamcastjack: CNR = ?
[05:03] <SpAc> eck: looks good!
[05:03] <vox754> RenatoSilva, use #ubuntu-offtopic for random discussion, #politics is VERY controversial
[05:03] <thirst> is there a way to convert a video to its individual jpeg images(frame by frame) in linux
[05:03] <RenatoSilva> vox754: Jesus!! are you a bot?????
[05:03] <RenatoSilva> how do i detect a bot???????????
[05:03] <crdlb> thirst, using mplayer
[05:03] <eck> thirst: mencoder
[05:03] <dreamcastjack> Click N Run service, I heard it would be using it (linspire uses it..since the partnership I think it is gonna ahve it)
[05:03] <user01> i have a radeon 7500 mobility should the driver in xorg be ati or radeon?
[05:04] <wj32> gobbles414: goto System -> Preferences -> Keyboard
[05:04] <thirst> crdlb:  couldnt find the option.. can you plz help.. :)
[05:04] <vox754> !offtopic > RenatoSilva
[05:04] <RenatoSilva> vox754: sorry now i understand
[05:04] <solifugus> Question: why are there so few programs available to install on ubuntu?
[05:04] <eck> mencoder is the encoder, mplayeris the player
[05:04] <crdlb> user01, doesn't matter
[05:04] <crdlb> user01, ati is a wrapper for radeon
[05:04] <RenatoSilva> vox754: what are these "!" and ">" ??
[05:04] <user01> crdlb: oh good to know tanks
[05:04] <vox754> !bot > RenatoSilva
[05:04] <RenatoSilva> wow nice!!!!
[05:04] <mina_linux_Tux> vox754: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[05:04] <RenatoSilva> vox754: wow!!!
[05:05] <gobbles414> I'm there wj32
[05:05] <capgadget> 7.04 beta looks slick via vmware. Release date is 4/19-ish?
[05:05] <mina_linux_Tux> vox754: does this do what i want
[05:05] <solifugus> How can I find more software to install on Ubuntu... like bzFlag and all the normal games and programs every other distro has..
[05:05] <crdlb> thirst, you can use: mplayer -vo jpeg
[05:05] <RenatoSilva> vox754: so, ubuntu+1 and ubuntu-offtopic?? thanks!!!
[05:05] <Dasnipa`> capgadget, ish
[05:05] <wj32> gobbles414: then  click Layout Options, Compose key position
[05:05] <Linuxor> Hi,Please, I want to transform CD to ISO , how to do?
[05:05] <wj32> gobbles414: select Right Win-key is Compose
[05:05] <RenatoSilva> vox754: now, is tehre a way to see a tree of channels around the world???
[05:05] <user01> crdlb: koules isnt working for some reason
[05:05] <Dasnipa`> capgadget, the RC is getting delayed... so _maybe_ the release will be delayed... it depends on the quality of the RC
[05:05] <Sean> eck: Are you there?
[05:06] <wj32> gobbles414: now, press the right windows key once. then a, e, i, o, or u.
[05:06] <crdlb> user01, koules?
[05:06] <eck> RenatoSilva: /msg chanserv list #*searchstring*
[05:06] <vox754> mina_linux_Tux, probably yes... I gave you those links, but I haven't had the need to do that.
[05:06] <eck> Sean: yeah
[05:06] <user01> crdlb: yes crashes