[05:06] <mono6> demonspork: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[05:06] <leo_rockw> hello everyone
[05:06] <genii> cishpix: On the server the shared files are specified in the /etc/exports file, then you mount those remotely on the clients with similar method as mounting a drive locally.
[05:06] <nj786> anybody in here know anything abt GTKPOD?
[05:06] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj: ok, what's a filemanager and where do i find?
[05:06] <orbisvicis> :q!
[05:06] <orbisvicis> oops
[05:06] <freckledp> haha, editing a file, orbisvicis
[05:06] <cishpix> genii: can u give me the tutorial link about it??
[05:06] <orbisvicis> freckledp, yep
[05:07] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, are you using xubuntu, right?
[05:07] <kritical> Hi there, I keep hitting Ctrl+S by accident in the GUI Terminal... can anyone tell me why this keeps freezing vim?
[05:07] <freckledp> I can't tell you how many times I've typed that in an email :)
[05:07] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: big ol' list for /dev (dsp, dsp1, rfcomm, xconsole, etc), smaller one for /opt (acrobat reader, azureus, swiftfox, etc)
[05:07] <cishpix> mono6: does ubuntu support like FDC (fedora directory server)??
[05:07] <freckledp> my boss just laughs
[05:07] <genii> cishpix: One minute, I will look for you
[05:07] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj: yes but i just looked through the apps menu and don't see a 'file manager'
[05:07] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, Sorry, typo, I meant /proc
[05:07] <kek> kritical: press ctrl-q to resume
[05:07] <mono6> cishpix: i am not sure, but i just might say: i doubt it.
[05:08] <mjancaiti1> ls /proc gives me nothing
[05:08] <mjancaiti1> Just a new line
[05:08] <orbisvicis> hehe . ah well
[05:08] <mono6> cishpix: i would just to with samba. it's really relatively easy to install and their tutorials are great
[05:08] <ckin2001> you have nothing in proc?
[05:08] <kek> kritical: it's just standard
[05:08] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, Did you do the mount -o bind command for /proc ?
[05:08] <kritical> kek, cheers, looks like thats the XOFF signal?...
[05:08] <leo_rockw> mikubuntu, i believe it is called thunar
[05:08] <mjancaiti1> No
[05:09] <mjancaiti1> Haha, I will
[05:09] <kritical> kek, thanks though, that was doing my head in ;)
[05:09] <mikubuntu> leo_rockw: k, i saw something like that; brb
[05:09] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, so, the only way is to use terminal
[05:09] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: do I need to make those extra directories, or will it take it correctly?
[05:09] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, You will need to do it from another terminal
[05:09] <kek> kritical: yeah i think so
[05:09] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: got it
[05:09] <orbisvicis> anyone know where the user nx should be?
[05:09] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj: i found file manager
[05:10] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, cool
[05:10] <cishpix> mono6: but I know, in linux-linux machine is good to use NFS but in linux-windows machine is good to use samba, isn't it??
[05:10] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, navigate to /etc/X11
[05:10] <Frogzoo> cishpix: nfs > samba = true
[05:10] <mono6> cishpix: correct...NFS is better for linux-linux. you can just use openldap to create a directory server for linux-linux
[05:11] <genii> cishpix: This will get you started: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193408&highlight=file+sharing
[05:11] <cishpix> genii: thanks for the link
[05:11] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: ok, ls /proc gives me a bunch of stuff now: scsi, vmstat, etc
[05:11] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, is there a "file manager open as root" opition?
[05:11] <cishpix> genii: I'll study hard about it
[05:11] <mono6> cishpix: it can provide you with a single-sign-on server (like AD, samba, etc), so you don't have to maintain accounts on every machine
[05:11] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj: i see a folder called etc
[05:11] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, Basically you are making /mnt/root/proc actually go to /proc, which you need to do because otherwise the chroot cannot see anything outside of /mnt/root ( because it thinks that is / and nothing is higher than / :)
[05:12] <cishpix> mono6: do you have a link about the tutorial??
[05:12] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, open it, then open "X11"
[05:12] <Frogzoo> mono6: you mean ldap with kerberos? or something else?
[05:12] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: I see; I'll try running those lines again now
[05:12] <mono6> cishpix, http://www.openldap.org/doc/admin23/
[05:12] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, Which lines?
[05:12] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: the dpkg lines; same thing happened
[05:13] <mono6> cishpix, not really a tutorial, but good info
[05:13] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: do I need to redo my chroot command?
[05:13] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, yes, it won't affect grabbing the list since that doesn't require knowlage of the hardware, you will only need that for when you re-install X and other packages
[05:14] <mono6> cishpix, but keep in mind that openldap and NFS are two seperate things. LDAP is for authentication, NFS is for file sharing
[05:14] <cishpix> brb
[05:14] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj: k, got x11 open
[05:14] <demonspork> mono6, the source code I have already has a debian/ directory?  what do I run in it?
[05:14] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, So now "sudo apt-get remove --reinstall xserver-xorg"
[05:14] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, now find xorg.conf
[05:15] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: I dunno what happened, I'm gonna close this terminal (haven't done anything besides the chroot) and start over
[05:15] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj: k, open?
[05:15] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: that's not going to ruin anything, right?
[05:15] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, yes
[05:15] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, No, it won't hurt anything
[05:15] <mono6> demonspork: good, you probably just need to do a 'debuild -S'
[05:16] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj:  open with mousepad, abiword or other app?
[05:16] <raf256> why installing software is so horribly hard in ubuntu/debian?
[05:16] <demonspork> mono6, in which directory?
[05:16] <mono6> demonspork: after that do a pbuilder and point it to the .dsc file to build the binaries
[05:16] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, abiword
[05:16] <ckin2001> raf256 - have you tried synaptic?
[05:16] <mono6> demonspork: do it in the source directory, not the debian dir
[05:16] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, find Section "Devices"
[05:17] <Jordan_U> raf256, Because it's not?
[05:17] <raf256> ckin2001: yes, it sucks a lot when I need several applications; and one application needs other versions of lib, so it wants to remove the other appl i need, WTF
[05:17] <raf256> Jordan_U: so how to install few applications if each needs other version of libs?
[05:17] <Jordan_U> raf256, What applications?
[05:17] <raf256> On normal systems like windows each program can have own libs as needed
[05:18] <Jordan_U> raf256, That shouldn't happen for the most part
[05:18] <raf256> Jordan_U: take any application A and B where both need lib X but in different ver
[05:18] <mono6> raf256: that's the beauty of linux, you can have more libs than just one
[05:18] <raf256> mono6: so how to solve it?
[05:18] <Jordan_U> raf256, Can you give an example of that happening? You should be able to just have both libs
[05:18] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj: is it 'input devices'?
[05:18] <raf256> system should install both libs (both versions) why it doesnt do so?
[05:18] <mono6> raf256, it really depends on the app(s)
[05:18] <geek> i've got a quick question
[05:19] <Jordan_U> raf256, Again, it should not need to be solved by you, it should be automatic, can you give an example where it is not?
[05:19] <raf256> Jordan_U: actually its about debian, installing gaura removes styplhed-claws email client
[05:19] <geek> whats a good program for burning mp3 cds?
[05:19] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, no scroll down
[05:19] <mono6> raf256: libs are different in linux...different versions have usually a different extension
[05:19] <File13> !seen IntuitiveNipple
[05:19] <Jordan_U> raf256, Debian stable?
[05:19] <raf256> Jordan_U: no, debian stable is acient; debian tewsting
[05:20] <mintee_> is it normal for mythtv to just not work in ubuntu.  I get a seg fault everytime i try and start anything myth related.  I just want a front end.
[05:20] <raf256> Jordan_U: upgrade of GTK seems to be to blame
[05:20] <Jordan_U> raf256, Debian testing is not stable :) There are going to be some packaging problems
[05:20] <mono6> geek, gnome cd master
[05:20] <File13> is anyone familiar with the RTUtility for wireless in ubuntu
[05:20] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj: there a section 'Monitor', and after that a section 'Screen'
[05:20] <Jordan_U> raf256, Though it should still be very rare
[05:20] <raf256> is ubuntu as fucked in this manner as debian? (unstable dependencies, unable to install both appl A and B)
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | raf256
[05:20] <ubotu> raf256: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:21] <mintee_> raf256, i'm thinking so, hehe
[05:21] <raf256> so which distro isnt?
[05:21] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, what's the Identifier on Section "Monitor"?
[05:21] <raf256> gentoo/
[05:21] <denson> apt-get problem here. I am trying to remove ejabberd apt-get remove ejabberd -V , but the remove is failing. I dont really get much of an error. Where can I look to get more details.
[05:21] <mikubuntu> monitor says horizsync 28-51, and vertrefresh 43-60
[05:21] <mikubuntu> Generic Monitor
[05:21] <Jordan_U> raf256, You might like Arch, it keeps up to date but is stable ( no descrete versions )
[05:21] <mjancaiti1> denson: dmesg might be useful
[05:21] <raf256> Jordan_U: hmm ok
[05:21] <ckin2001> @raf - sabayon
[05:22] <mintee_> does anyone have a simple mythfrontend running on ubuntu and stable?
[05:22] <ckin2001> bleeding edge
[05:22] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, What's the device on Section "Screen"?
[05:22] <mono6> Jordan_U: agreed, Arch is awesome, but more technical than Ubuntu
[05:22] <Distro^Junkie> is beryl still supported or is there an alternative ?
[05:22] <mintee_> mono6, i don't really think so, i think arch is pretty damn easy, especially with pacman beign searchable
[05:23] <Jordan_U> Distro^Junkie, Yes and Yes :)
[05:23] <mono6> Distro^Junkie: Compiz-Fusion
[05:23] <Distro^Junkie> is it easy to install ?
[05:23] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj: Screen>Device> 'Neomagic Corp NM2160 magicgraph 128XD
[05:23] <rafaelscj> Distro^Junkie, /join #Ubuntu-effects
[05:23] <MrCollins> hey Jordan_U I got q3 working smooth man
[05:23] <mono6> mintee_: yea, but not really for linux newcomers. it's easy, but the wiki is a bit of a mess.
[05:23] <Jordan_U> Distro^Junkie, There will be no new versions of Beryl but the current version will still be supported until compiz-fusion is finished
[05:24] <MrCollins> all it was, was I needed to take out a 'composite' command and comment it out in the xorg.conf file :)
[05:24] <Tom-Miller> Distro^Junkie: Beryl and Compiz fused back together
[05:24] <mintee_> mono6, name a wiki that isn't a mess. heh
[05:24] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj:  says 'modes 1024 x 768'
[05:24] <Distro^Junkie> ahh ok
[05:24] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, What's the available resolutions on Section "Screen"?
[05:24] <mono6> mintee_: hehe. true. but still, nothing compares to the Ubuntu wiki
[05:25] <aphroguy116> Pelo - Not sure if you're still here or not, but just wanted to let you know it worked like a charm.  Any ideas what would have caused that?
[05:25] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: omg, the dpkg package move worked :D
[05:25] <mintee_> YAY, for apt-get...  /usr/bin/mythfrontend: line 18:  7878 Segmentation fault      (core dumped) /usr/bin/mythfrontend.real "$@"
[05:25] <Jordan_U> Distro^Junkie, But is is not finished yet, if you want stable stick with Beryl or Compiz
[05:25] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, It shouldn't have let you do that
[05:25] <aphroguy116> Pelo, BTW, this is c0mp13371331337
[05:25] <cishpix> mono6: thanks for the link. U mean that, the best way is still use samba like PDC in linux-linux machine, isn't it?
[05:25] <Tom-Miller> mono6: I like ubuntuguide.org or what ever it is
[05:26] <mono6> Compiz-Fusion works great. The have great documentation for Ubuntu. However ATI cards are a pain to configure (XGL)
[05:26] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, Has it actually been removed yet? What is happening?
[05:26] <pvl1> is there a disk defragmenter for ubuntu?
[05:26] <Jordan_U> !defrag | pvl1
[05:26] <ubotu> pvl1: defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[05:26] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: I didn't mean move, my bad: I followed the chroot stuff on the grub pretty much solid and then ran the "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages"
[05:26] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, now you can pastebin your xorg.conf
[05:26] <cishpix> Frogzoo: nfs > samba : true (I don't understand)
[05:26] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: and that was the first time that's worked
[05:26] <mono6> cishpix: linux-windows it is Samba, linux-linux, openldap/NFS
[05:27] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, Good, removing dpkg would be BAD :)
[05:27] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj:  has bunch of subsections, they all have an entry for depth, and modes.  under modes, they all say 1024 x 768
[05:27] <Tom-Miller> man, I am inpressed with Wubi
[05:27] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: so now I have a my-packages in my ~/ directory and I can run the apt-get remove stuff, what exactly am I removing? sudo apt-get remove x* ?
[05:27] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, Oh, it was my mistake I read remove, not move :)
[05:27] <mono6> ubotu: depends on the partitioning..if you partition for seperate /var and /home dirs, defragmentation will be less of an issue
[05:27] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj: no, cantt pastebin from that machine not online
[05:27] <mikubuntu> arrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhh
[05:27] <cishpix> mono6: I've read the tutorial about NFS, but it doesn't support like PDC
[05:28] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, What's the DefautDepth?
[05:28] <Tom-Miller> Jordan_U: when you use use apt-get, never use the '*' in it, its a quick way to break your system
[05:28] <mono6> cishpix: right, because NFS does not do authetication (like a PDC), that is handled by openldap
[05:28] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, First just try apt-get remove --reinstall xserver-xorg ( nothing will actually be removed, but all the packages will have to be downloaded again )
[05:28] <Jordan_U> Tom-Miller, He has a backup package list
[05:28] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj:  default depth 24
[05:28] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: one sec, I'm gonna get me a network cable then
[05:29] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, all appears to be fine...
[05:29] <mattg> how do i get it to read my dvds?
[05:29] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj: then each subsection depth is different
[05:29] <mono6> mattg: what kind of dvds
[05:29] <cishpix> mono6: Can the other user open the another user data in NFS??
[05:29] <mattg> movies, mono6
[05:29] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, yes
[05:29] <mono6> cishpix: it is possible, yes
[05:30] <Tom-Miller> mattg: you need to install dvdcss2 or something like that to be able to read encrypted formats
[05:30] <Optimus55> anyone know a good site dedicated to ubuntu/linux gaming?
[05:30] <mono6> mattg: movies require restricted drivers. hold on for a link.
[05:30] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, can you access a apps menu like "screen resolution"?
[05:30] <cishpix> brb
[05:30] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, The reason that I had you make the backup was more for if you end up having to remove more than just xserver-xorg ( if you remove then re-install it doesn't need to re-download the package, but if the package is what is corrupted that might not help )
[05:30] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj:  but it's not fine, because that machine is not resolving at 1024 x 768, i think it's more like 320 x whatever, i'm telling you is VERY sloppy
[05:30] <mono6> mattg, https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html#video-badformats
[05:31] <mattg> thx
[05:31] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj:  let me look, but it seems like i've been there already
[05:31] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: it's removing now, so I'll let you know what happens
[05:31] <mikubuntu> vague recollection
[05:31] <mono6> mattg, just be careful, some of the restricted codecs might not be legal where you live
[05:31] <mattg> usa, mono6
[05:31] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, I think that your monitor isn't widescreen, right?
[05:31] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: It had "removing" next to all of them, and then gave me the prompt again, doesn't look like it reinstalled them
[05:32] <mono6> mattg, well the libdvdcss2 lib is not legal here, but everyone seems to be using it
[05:32] <mattg> mono6, who would know about the restricted codes?
[05:32] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj: no, don't think so, just normal screen
[05:32] <mono6> mattg, that's the lib to decrypt encrtypted DVDs
[05:32] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: can I just apt-get install xserver and gdm and see what happens?
[05:32] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, Ok, You might want to write down the commands you ran to chroot, you will have to do it again if you want to reboot and test if just re-installing xorg worked and it turns out it didn't, but then again I forgot why we need to do this from a LiveCD anyways :)
[05:32] <mono6> mattg, you'd be surprised... ;)
[05:33] <mattg> i want this on lockdown now!  how do i do it?  i want it so NOBODY can find out what i'm doing!  LMAO
[05:33] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, you have less video memory, but 2Mb supports 1024x768
[05:33] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, You won't be able to test the X server from the chroot ( OK you can but it is not worth the work to do it :)
[05:33] <mattg> mikubuntu: what kinda system u runnin?
[05:33] <mono6> mattg, g'luck. the RIAA just busted 2 student in my college with a $350k fine for file-sharing
[05:34] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj: display prefs: default, 800x600, 640x480, and 320x240
[05:34] <viverant> Hello I am trying to write a bash script to use sudo for multiple commands but when I try and do multiple line commands with a | separator  it doesnt pickup sudo and I cant figure out a way to pass it the sudo password
[05:34] <mattg> ouch, well, 1 of my boss' sisters got that kinda fine, too
[05:34] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: how can I make sure it's installed? Like I said, all it looks like it did was remove everything, and let's not forget I don't have gdm installed at all, I don't think
[05:34] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, did you try 800x600?
[05:34] <mattg> i dont share my files, so i haven't a problem
[05:34] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, Did you run it with --reinstall ?
[05:34] <mono6> mattg, right the codecs are kinda a different legal (grey) issue
[05:34] <rafaelscj> mattg, he's running xubuntu
[05:35] <mattg> ahh, rafaelscj
[05:35] <mikubuntu> mattg: dell laptop rafaelscj: 800x600 doesn't change the res
[05:35] <pvl1> is there a way to find unused files and folders and delete them?
[05:35] <mattg> mono6, can they determine what codecs i am running?
[05:35] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: "apt-get remove --reinstall xserver-xorg"
[05:35] <mono6> mattg, probably not. if you're really paranoid you can encrypt your file system
[05:35] <mattg> what dell laptop model, mikubuntu?
[05:36] <Random832> is there a UI for setting xkb options that's not tied in to gnome?
[05:36] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, Then X should be there, you can install GDM again though before you reboot
[05:36] <rafaelscj> mattg, http://www.baber.com/used/used_laptops/delllatitude-d300xt-2.htm
[05:36] <Tom-Miller> personally, I think if you bought the DVD, you should have all the rights to free codecs to play it without have to worry about anythign legal, your paying for the movie, not the dvd encryption format.
[05:36] <mattg> omg that's a junker, rafaelscj
[05:36] <mikubuntu> mattg: dell cpi d300xt
[05:36] <mono6> Tom-Miller, agreed, but the legislation in the US is (pardon) f'ed up
[05:36] <Kevin`> just ignore the insane rules and get what you need
[05:36] <pvl1> is there an app thatll find unused files and folders and delete them
[05:36] <Kevin`> nobody cares
[05:37] <mattg> wanna see mine, mikubuntu?
[05:37] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: BALLS. "apt-get install gdm" gives me the same frigging "invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed." error again
[05:37] <grandy> hello, an anyone tell me how to add /usr/local/bin to the path for all users?
[05:37] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, OK, we'll hack it to shut it up :)
[05:37] <mono6> grandy: export $PATH:/usr/local/bin
[05:37] <mattg> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?docname=c00847958&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN  mikubuntu rafaelscj
[05:38] <Tom-Miller> mono6: I sometimes wounder, the US government supports freedom, free speach, free press, etc.  But not free software, or open standers?
[05:38] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj:  in that terminal you had me open it says: if you have edited this file but wsould like it to be automatically updated again, run the following command: sudo dpkg- reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:38] <Tom-Miller> mono6: thinking about it makes me puke.
[05:38] <mattg> that's my baby!!!
[05:38] <mono6> oops...export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin
[05:38] <Random832> Tom-Miller: wait - which of those does the US government support?
[05:38] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: I'm game, but this is the same error that seemed to have started this whole thing
[05:38] <Random832> [i know, i know, it was a cheap shot... sorry]
[05:38] <mono6> Tom-Miller: well, i am originally from Europe, but live here and feel the same way
[05:38] <Tom-Miller> Random832: lol. ok "claim" to support
[05:38] <Milk_> hey guys, have you ever heard of a process or command named 'datacenter'
[05:39] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, Yes, but in this case it actually makes sense that it wouldn't work :)
[05:39] <pvl1> US has one of the least democratic forms of democracy
[05:39] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: all right, tell me what to do :D
[05:39] <Jordan_U> pvl1, s/democracy/republic
[05:39] <pvl1> we have 2 main parties to vote on
[05:39] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, you didn't do any change
[05:39] <kanhh> can any1 help ? I have a Packard Bell USB WiPen, it can find the router but it wont connect
[05:40] <atheodo> hi all
[05:40] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj:  i know, but WHY am i getty such a cruddy pic?
[05:40] <mono6> kanhh: have you checked the Ubuntu wiki?
[05:40] <atheodo> just finished installing my ubuntu
[05:40] <grandy> mono6: where should I put that so that it gets run each time a user logs in?
[05:40] <Tom-Miller> lol, sorry, didn't mean to turn the channel into ##politics
[05:40] <atheodo> does anybody know how can I activate the ftp service?
[05:40] <mjancaiti1> !ftp
[05:40] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[05:40] <mono6> grandy, somewhere in your init-scripts...lemme look
[05:40] <atheodo> i want to be able to use ftp to backup some documents on this machines
[05:41] <mjancaiti1> atheodo, check out those clients
[05:41] <mjancaiti1> !Nautilus
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, :(
[05:41] <pvl1> atheodo u need an ftp app
[05:41] <mikubuntu> Tom-Miller: ya, really there's only one viable party for the next election, and its NOT bush's
[05:41] <atheodo> ubotu, these are servers as well?
[05:41] <speaker219> Does anybody know if there's a fix for the Flash Player crashing bug in firefox that happens every so often?
[05:41] <mjancaiti1> ubotu's a bot
[05:41] <rafaelscj> how do i to install a ftp server?
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <mjancaiti1> :D
[05:41] <mono6> grandy: /etc/rc.local would be a good choice
[05:41] <begenxboys> hy
[05:41] <adastra23> :)
[05:41] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj:  thanks for all your help, i know you did every thing you knew
[05:41] <pvl1> atheodo uboto is a robot, but you need to get an ftp application that will manage and offer the service
[05:42] <grandy> mono6: ahh thanks!
[05:42] <speaker219> Does anybody know if there's a fix for the Flash Player crashing bug in firefox that happens every so often?
[05:42] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: should I be rebooting, and into regular mode or recovery?
[05:42] <mikubuntu> and still fell short :)
[05:42] <mikubuntu> lol
[05:42] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, Stay in the chroot for now, I am looking at the script
[05:42] <pvl1> so does anyone know of any application thatll find unused files/folders and delete them?
[05:42] <mjancaiti1> K
[05:42] <atheodo> ok, how do i find the applications? do i have to go to the ubunty website?
[05:42] <Tom-Miller> mikubuntu: I disagree, I think both parties do the same exact same, and the US population keeps jumping back and forth between them, thinking that some how or another, it got better in the last 4 years
[05:42] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, try using k/ubuntu :)
[05:42] <mjancaiti1> atheodo: google's your friend
[05:42] <atheodo> ok i see
[05:43] <chris32680> atheodo: or just add/remove apps seems satisfy most needs
[05:43] <atheodo> thanks, I will google it right now (cannot beleive that google has become a verb !!! these days)
[05:43] <pvl1> Tom-miller we dont give others a chance, thats the main problem
[05:43] <rafaelscj> mikubuntu, or try google
[05:43] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, Ok, first quick fix to try, run "nano  /etc/init.d/gdm"
[05:43] <mono6> Tom-Miller: yea, the 2-party system sucks...i am from Germany and we have 2 major parties and 2-3 smaller one...makes it much more dynamic
[05:43] <mikubuntu> rafaelscj:  this is my taxi partner's laptop, and when she gets it back, she's gonna knock me over the head with it.  she's a republican thru and thru.
[05:44] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: in it now
[05:44] <pvl1> mono6 the us has many more parties we just dont put any focus onto them
[05:44] <Tom-Miller> mono6: we have many smaller parites, more then 2 or 3 smaller ones
[05:44] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, And near the top there should be a line with "set -e", put a "#" at the beginning of that line
[05:44] <mikubuntu> the screen looks like a 2nd grader is drawing it
[05:44] <mono6> pvl1, right, but it won't happen any time soon
[05:44] <Tom-Miller> mono6: just that they normally, all together, make up about 3% of all votes
[05:44] <Frogzoo> speaker219: flash works best on feisty, if you haven't upgraded - also, increase flash's cache to 10M or infinite
[05:44] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: got it
[05:44] <unique> is there a room to go to for noobs?
[05:44] <pvl1> mono6, aye i agree
[05:44] <mono6> unique: here? ;)
[05:44] <speaker219> Frogzoo: i use feisty
[05:44] <pvl1> unique u can just ask ur questions here
[05:45] <mikubuntu> i imagine this is what the 1962 one laptop per child looked like, tho i was not fortunate enough to have one AT THAT TIME
[05:45] <mozart_> Hi
[05:45] <mozart_> I'm new to Linux and Ubuntu, been a windows user and it feels great to finally have rid myself of that trash OS. Feisty Fawn is running smoothly and the compiz/beryl eyecandy is stunning. Now as with all ex window users all my USB external drives are in NTFS, getting the read/write ability with Automatix was easy, but now here is my problem the drives I plug in are recognized but I have no write permission, Feisty re
[05:45] <mozart_> ally should have a right-click option inbuilt for this, well I need something with a gui which allows me to change and set the permissions as I need, the command line usage is still new and daunting to me, also the family members in the house would appreciate that.
[05:45] <mozart_> thanks
[05:45] <unique> ok thanks i just switched from windows today still figuring things out
[05:45] <mozart_> ooops now I screwed it up a bit by right-clicking the desktop icon and changing the "ro" into "rw" and now it won't even mount the USB external disc! throws up this message:
[05:45] <mozart_> --------------------------
[05:45] <Tom-Miller> mono6: infact, some times I think, if all Mac and Linux users voted on a party of then the major two, we would double the number of votes for smaller parties
[05:45] <mozart_> Cannot mount volume
[05:45] <mozart_> invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume "Music"
[05:45] <mozart_> --------------------------
[05:45] <mozart_> Help please
[05:45] <mono6> unique: welcome. don't be afraid to ask!
[05:46] <Tom-Miller> mozart_: what command are you using to mount it?
[05:46] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, set -e tells the script to stop completely the moment any of the commands it runs fails, removing it will hopefully let it continue and although it will still "fail" apt-get / dpkg will think it has installed fine ( which it in fact has anyways :)
[05:46] <mono6> mozart: try chmod ('man chmod')
[05:46] <pvl1> can i remove the files in cache/apt/archives?
[05:46] <mozart_> ok thx i'll try now
[05:46] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: Ok, what else?
[05:46] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, Then quit and save the file and try apt-geting gdm again
[05:47] <varg> hi and how do i install my grafics card?
[05:47] <Tom-Miller> mozart_: wait, you need Linux to change permissions on a NTFS filesystem?  I am confused???
[05:47] <File13> !seen IntuitiveNipple
[05:47] <mono6> varg: you board should install fine on the install. what kind of problem are you having?
[05:47] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: gdm is already the newest version
[05:47] <Jordan_U> varg, System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager most likely
[05:47] <unique> as far as visuals for the desktop what should i use i got compiz installed.... but im not sure if its working
[05:48] <atheodo> ok found it
[05:48] <mono6> Tom-Miller: he might have mounted it ro?
[05:48] <varg> have no problem...kinda wierded out that everything just...works...
[05:48] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, That is where you got that error before isn't it?
[05:48] <Ashfire908> how do i install two ubuntu systems on the same computer so that grub gets updated with both systems (like if the kernel gets upgraded)
[05:48] <atheodo> there are a couple of them, but it's getting late, so I will try them tomorrow or something :-)
[05:48] <mono6> varg, welcome to Linux...it 'just' works
[05:48] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: correct, that's where it kept throwing the invoke-rc.d, went clean this time
[05:49] <mozart_> Sorry i got logged out
[05:49] <mozart_> Now as with all ex window users all my USB external drives are in NTFS, getting the read/write ability with Automatix was easy, but now here is my problem the drives I plug in are recognized but I have no write permission, Feisty really should have a right-click option inbuilt for this, well I need something with a gui which allows me to change and set the permissions as I need, the command line usage is still new an
[05:49] <mozart_> d daunting to me, also the family members in the house would appreciate that.
[05:49] <mozart_> thanks
[05:49] <mozart_> ooops now I screwed it up a bit by right-clicking the desktop icon and changing the "ro" into "rw" and now it won't even mount the USB external disc! throws up this message:
[05:49] <mozart_> --------------------------
[05:49] <varg> so u don't need to install all the diffrent components?...like grafics and mobo components?..
[05:49] <mozart_> Cannot mount volume
[05:49] <mozart_> invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume "Music"
[05:49] <mozart_> --------------------------
[05:49] <preaction> mozart_, do not do that again please
[05:49] <atheodo> by the way i am running ubuntu as a virtual machine under windows vista using vmware desktop
[05:49] <mozart_> Help please
[05:49] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, Ok, delete that "#" again then reboot
[05:49] <snarfer> DCC SEND "HAX" 0 0 0
[05:49] <mono6> Ashfire908, it's a bit tricky...just take the entries from the last-installed OS from 'menu.lst' and copy paste them into your current grub
[05:49] <mozart_> sorry what?
[05:49] <atheodo> that things really rocks, it took care of all the driver installation for me, this is the first linux that I have that has sound and works with my network card right out the box :_)
[05:49] <Ashfire908> mono6 there's no automatic way of doing it?
[05:49] <Jordan_U> !automatix | mozart_
[05:49] <ubotu> mozart_: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[05:49] <atheodo> and it's running pretty fast
[05:50] <rafaelscj> is there a gui ftp server?
[05:50] <atheodo> anybody else using vmware desktop in here?
[05:50] <preaction> mozart_, you spam the channel with your question and it's disruptive. just state your question once. you already did so.
[05:50] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: rebooting into normal install, right?
[05:50] <mozart_> ok so shouls i uninstall Automatix?????
[05:50] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, Yes
[05:50] <mono6> Ashfire908, not that i am aware of, because the install will overwrite your current bootloader. some distros will include older recognized entires
[05:50] <pvl1> rafaelscj yes its called gproftp
[05:50] <atheodo> rafael, from what i can see no, all ftp server are command line, but pretty easy
[05:50] <atheodo> try this one
[05:50] <preaction> mozart_, doesn't matter anymore, it's too late now.
[05:50] <elkbuntu> mozart_, the damage is already done
[05:50] <mozart_> i know
[05:50] <atheodo> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-vsftpd-ftp-service-server/
[05:50] <Jordan_U> mozart_, If it has done any damage then uninstalling won't help, the damage is done
[05:50] <mozart_> i used automatix to install lots of things
[05:50] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: installing
[05:50] <atheodo> it seems pretty straightforward
[05:50] <mono6> mozart_: Automatix is not really something I would recommend
[05:51] <rafaelscj> pvl1, thanks
[05:51] <preaction> !paste | mozart_, paste your /etc/fstab. there's something bad in there that mount doesn't like
[05:51] <ubotu> mozart_, paste your /etc/fstab. there's something bad in there that mount doesn't like: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:51] <pvl1> rafaelscj no problem
[05:51] <mozart_> slowly please
[05:51] <preaction> mozart_, do not paste to the channel, follow the link ubotu told you about
[05:51] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, Installing?
[05:51] <mjancaiti1> Er, booting, Jordan
[05:51] <mozart_> ok
[05:51] <mjancaiti1> My bad
[05:51] <Jordan_U> mjancaiti1, ;)
[05:51] <adastra23> I've got a buddy with a DVD/CD driver issue - I'm stumped - thread here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=536498
[05:51] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: ok, it got to a tty login prompt again, and then brought up the blue "failed to start xserver" message
[05:52] <preaction> mozart_, once i can see your /etc/fstab, i can help you use ntfs-3g to get it to mount correctly
[05:52] <Ashfire908> if automatrix is so bad why do people use it? and what exaclty does it do?
[05:52] <pvl1> is there like a disk cleanup tool in ubuntu?
[05:52] <mozart_> sorry how do i get the info so then i can paste my /etc/fstab as you asked me
[05:52] <Tom-Miller> Ashfire908: it can sometimes help install software that is difficult to install
[05:53] <mono6> Ashfire908, I would consider Automatix to be "beta". it does a lot of automated tasks, like "YasT" in SusE
[05:53] <kazim59> I've a .chm file that does not render correctly.. text is block-block-block-block... but when I copy this text to somewhere else... I can read it ..
[05:53] <Jordan_U> preaction, ntfs-config will set it up automatically
[05:53] <Tom-Miller> Ashfire908: but it also has a high chance of breaking your system
[05:53] <mozart_> ok i have the ntfs-3g
[05:53] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | mozart_
[05:53] <ubotu> mozart_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:53] <mjancaiti1> For what it's worth, automatix has never broken any of my installs
[05:53] <kazim59> the gnochm output in the terminal says PangoWarning: shape engine failure, expect ugly output. the offending font is 'Arial Bold Not-Rotated 6.999023437
[05:53] <preaction> mozart_, there's a file called /etc/fstab, you open it in a text editor, paste it to the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org website, and give me the link
[05:53] <Jordan_U> mozart_, Note that link also covers configuration
[05:53] <mono6> Ashfire908: the beauty of Linux is the transparency and tools like Automatix take some of the control away from you
[05:53] <mjancaiti1> Well, not true; Automatix's VMWare install always screws it up
[05:53] <elkbuntu> mjancaiti1, count yourself lucky then
[05:53] <mozart_> Automatix to me came through MYEASYUBUNTU, somehow so then i just used it
[05:53] <demonspork> how do I install a source package that has a /debian folder in it?
[05:54] <mono6> demonspork, still didn't work, huh?
[05:54] <Jordan_U> Ashfire908, Not to mention Automatix is poorly written, defective by design, and dangerous
[05:54] <preaction> Jordan_U, yes, but if you were following the entire conversation you'd see that won't work here. mount is barfing on a bad option in /etc/fstab on a USB disk that is trying to automount
[05:54] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: do I need to run some nvidia x configuration something or other?
[05:54] <demonspork> mono6, I don't really know what I need to run
[05:54] <Tom-Miller> pvl1: what do you need to clean up?
[05:54] <SunmanXII> hey guys i have a problem - when i plug in my external HD it reads as a read-only for some reason
[05:54] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: or can I just go poke around in it for a minute? (I got pretty good with xorg.conf a while back as a courtesy of stupid laptop displays)
[05:54] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: you made some comments about this screen resolution  prob i'm having earlier ... i think i wore rafaelscj out for the last three hours and we still couldn't fix it, do you have any ideas, or better yet, a QUIK FIX
[05:54] <mono6> demonspork, read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[05:54] <preaction> SunmanXII, NTFS hard drive?
[05:54] <Ashfire908> Jordan_U then why do people use it isn't there a DANGER DO NOT USE message?
[05:55] <pvl1> tom-miller idk like unused files
[05:55] <daytona89> when linux boots, which file does it use to keep track of which drives will be mounted, etc?
[05:55] <unique> whats the best desktop ui to use?
[05:55] <preaction> daytona89, /etc/fstab
[05:55] <mono6> demonspork, a complete walkthrough would be a little bit to extensive in here
[05:55] <demonspork> daytona89, etc/fstab
[05:55] <Jordan_U> Ashfire908, People do a lot of things they shouldn't and there is a lot of ignorance about Automatix
[05:55] <mozart_> i can't get to /etc/fstab it says permission denied even when i did sudo before
[05:55] <Tom-Miller> pvl1: the only files you really need to worry about keeping clean, are files in /home/username
[05:55] <Ashfire908> unique, depends.
[05:55] <mjancaiti1> I think you want to type cat /etc/fstab
[05:55] <SunmanXII> preaction, yes
[05:55] <preaction> mozart_, type this in a terminal: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[05:55] <Ashfire908> unique, there's GNOME, KDE, and Xfce
[05:55] <mjancaiti1> That'll give you output in the terminal
[05:55] <Tom-Miller> pvl1: by installing and uninstalling packages, the system will keep the rest of the file system "clean" for you
[05:56] <preaction> !ntfs-3g | SunmanXII
[05:56] <ubotu> SunmanXII: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:56] <pvl1> tom-miller what about cache/apt/archives, id like to free up some more space
[05:56] <rafaelscj> do you like EnLghtEnMent?
[05:56] <mono6> unique: GNOME, lightweight, powerful; KDE, more powerful, easy; XFCE: VERY lightwieght, not so powerful
[05:56] <mozart_> ok i got it
[05:56] <SunmanXII> thanks preaction ill try
[05:56] <daytona89> in /etc/fstab I have '/dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0' yet my NTFS drive does not mount. How do I fix this?
[05:56] <kazim59> !fonts
[05:56] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:56] <Jordan_U> Ashfire908, And the developers claim that it is perfectly stable and has never caused any problems, which even if it were true would not make it any less of a hack
[05:56] <Tom-Miller> pvl1: sudo apt-get purge     I *THINK* will delete old package files, let me make sure first
[05:56] <mozart_> can i paste it here????
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> !paste | mozart_
[05:57] <rafaelscj> !enlightenment
[05:57] <preaction> mozart_, no. once again. paste it to the paste site
[05:57] <Jordan_U> Ashfire908, By developers I mean Automatix devs, the Ubuntu devs condemn it
[05:57] <mozart_> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[05:57] <mozart_> #
[05:57] <mozart_> #  -- This file has been automaticly generated by ntfs-config --
[05:57] <mozart_> #
[05:57] <mozart_> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[05:57] <mozart_> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
[05:57] <mozart_> # Entry for /dev/sda1 :
[05:57] <Ashfire908> mozart_,  noooo
[05:57] <unique> ok so what is compiz
[05:57] <preaction> oh hell
[05:57] <ubotu> mozart_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:57] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[05:57] <mono6> Jordan_U: yes, just like YasT...I don't like it..Linux is easy enough the way it is AFAIK
[05:57] <Ashfire908> Jordan_U, figured that
[05:57] <preaction> nice catch tonyyarusso
[05:57] <adorablepuppy> What is the package name for ndiswrapper? The suggested ndiswrapper-common didn't work.
[05:57] <mono6> unique: Compiz is a "window manager" add-on....search for "compiz" on youtube.com for a demo
[05:58] <Ashfire908> mono6, could you help me understand https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#head-44a5805eeda20ec1b6bd6c274cbf3a74230675d1
[05:58] <PoofDaddy> I just inherited a new computer and not too familiar with computers and I'm a new Ubuntu user. The computer gives me the following message: http://www.nopaste.com/p/asQKbvLKF
[05:58] <Tom-Miller> pvl1: no, hold on, Ill find it
[05:58] <pvl1> tom-miller ok, ty
[05:58] <mono6> Ashfire908, sure what's your question?
[05:58] <Jordan_U> Ashfire908, And I say defective by design because they admit that they are trying to make a package manager, but they don't have a package format, or dependency handling, automatic updating, version tracking... they basically have nothing that a true package manager would
[05:59] <preaction> PoofDaddy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver i think
[05:59] <preaction> !xorg | PoofDaddy
[05:59] <ubotu> PoofDaddy: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:59] <daytona89> can anyone help me with an NTFS mounting issue?
[05:59] <Jordan_U> !xconfig | PoofDaddy
[05:59] <ubotu> PoofDaddy: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[05:59] <Ashfire908> mono6, it's not worded too well and even though i'm learning alot (like how to use a CLI to do stuff and commands like ifdown) but i just don't understand
[05:59] <Tom-Miller> pvl1: sudo apt-get clean
[05:59] <preaction> daytona89, try to mount the drive in a terminal and tell us what the error is
[05:59] <pvl1> tom-miller ok tyvm
[05:59] <Tom-Miller> pvl1: that will clear your apt's cache
[05:59] <preaction> mozart_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org <- paste your file THERE and give us the link
[06:00] <daytona89> ok, what command do I use?
[06:00] <unique> ok can KDE run on ubuntu?
[06:00] <preaction> daytona89, mount
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> unique: yes
[06:00] <Jordan_U> unique, Yes
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> !kde | unique
[06:00] <ubotu> unique: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[06:00] <mozart_> hey u guys told me paste it here, look its my first time here and first time with ubuntu so go easy on me instead of kicking me out, i'm not here to annoy anyone,
[06:00] <mozart_> thanks
[06:00] <daytona89> the NTFS partition is on the same drive as my Ubuntu partition.
[06:00] <Tom-Miller> Ill brb
[06:00] <Ashfire908> mono6, sorry i'm in the middle of a alternate CLI system install and i'm at the grub part
[06:00] <preaction> mozart_, no. i told you three times to paste it to the website
[06:00] <mono6> unique, yes...'apt-get install kde'
[06:00] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | daytona89
[06:00] <ubotu> daytona89: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:00] <preaction> daytona89, what partition though?
[06:00] <mozart_> ok sorry
[06:00] <mono6> Ashfire908, np
[06:00] <unique> ok thanks
[06:01] <PoofDaddy> preaction Jordan_U	: I can't seem to get to the terminal on that computer.  It looks almost like a BIOS setup window.  I'm using a different computer.
[06:01] <adorablepuppy> ndiswrapper? Anybody know what the package name is, or how I can get it if there is no package?
[06:01] <mozart_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35341/
[06:01] <preaction> PoofDaddy, when grub loads, choose "recovery mode"
[06:01] <mozart_> thx guys
[06:01] <murtadashah> Hi guys: I am wondering how to access myw indows files from UBUNTU... do I install samba on UBUNTU & I'm good to go?
[06:01] <mono6> adorablepuppy: 'sudo apt-get ndiswrapper'
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> murtadashah: On the same computer or a networked one?
[06:02] <leo_rockw> murtadashah, lan? or different partition?
[06:02] <adorablepuppy> mono6: Doesn't work.
[06:02] <Ashfire908> lol who maintains ubotu? !kde is ugly
[06:02] <murtadashah> Ubuntu is on the VM
[06:02] <murtadashah> same computer
[06:02] <preaction> mozart_, there's no entry in here for your USB disk at all, which is a problem
[06:02] <leo_rockw> Ashfire908, that's your opinion
[06:02] <murtadashah> each has its own IP from the router
[06:02] <mono6> adorablepuppy: hold on
[06:02] <mikubuntu> i can't believe i've been trying to get this screen resolution right for 4 and a half hours now .... arrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhhh
[06:02] <adorablepuppy> mono6: Additionally, the terminal suggests I should get ndiswrapper-common, whcih also doesn't work.
[06:02] <Jordan_U> PoofDaddy, You can get a terminal with ctrl+alt+F1
[06:02] <Ashfire908> leo_rockw, no the responce for !kde
[06:02] <murtadashah> tonyyarusso: on VM, same computer
[06:02] <murtadashah> leo_rockw: same computer, on VM
[06:02] <leo_rockw> Ashfire908, oh, ok. sorry
[06:02] <Ashfire908> mono6: you forgot the install part
[06:03] <PoofDaddy> preaction: I don't think that it's an option on that machine cause I tried that and it didn't work.
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> murtadashah: shouldn't need samba for that then.  Should be able to do it by default actually.
[06:03] <mikubuntu> time for cigarette break, whether or not thats politically correct
[06:03] <preaction> does anyone know if lsusb will show the /dev node of a usb disk? or would i have to parse dmsg?
[06:03] <mono6> adorablepuppy: ndiswrapper-utils and ndiswrapper-common
[06:03] <Ashfire908> mono6: you put  apt-get ndiswrapper
[06:03] <preaction> PoofDaddy, are you sure it's an ubuntu machine?
[06:03] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: I reconfigured X again, and did a gdm restart, and I get the same symptoms that started all this: a black screen before the login prompt and a "thinking" cursor, the spinning one; doesn't do anything
[06:03] <unique> whats some favored firewalls?
[06:03] <PoofDaddy> Jordan_U  don't think that it's an option on that machine cause I tried that and it didn't work.
[06:03] <preaction> !firewall | unique
[06:03] <ubotu> unique: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:03] <mjancaiti1> unique: firestarter
[06:03] <daytona89> preaction: hda1
[06:03] <adorablepuppy> mono6, all seem to not work.
[06:03] <PoofDaddy> preaction: yes, but i was directing that to Jordan, not you
[06:03] <eulallia1> >.> how do i install linux on a different partition without it overwriting my current xp boot, and if photoshop is on my 2nd partition, will it be overwritten? >.>
[06:04] <mono6> really? hm...
[06:04] <titancompu> Hey, I have two internet connections available to me. My personal one and my schools. I have two NICs available as well. Is it possible to combine the power of the two internets together?
[06:04] <Kevin`> eulallia1 resize it
[06:04] <adorablepuppy> Gives the E: Couldn't find package ndiswrapper-blah
[06:04] <eulallia1> resize the partition?
[06:04] <preaction> PoofDaddy, then why is my name at the front of it?
[06:04] <eulallia1> >.>
[06:04] <Kevin`> yes
[06:04] <Kevin`> the installer can do this
[06:04] <eulallia1> the partitions are over 50 gb each
[06:04] <PoofDaddy> preaction: I didn't see any line of kernal for recovery mode.  in fact it only loaded Ubuntu up and had no options for anything else as far as I know
[06:04] <Jordan_U> PoofDaddy, If the function keys have alternate uses ( mine control volume / brightness ) you may need to use the fn key to get them to actually act like function keys
[06:04] <mjancaiti1> Jordan_U: I'll be around for a while, but not constantly, so pm me if you have any ideas, and if not, have yourself a good night and I'll tackle it again later :)
[06:04] <murtadashah> tonyyarusso: hmm... is that a VM thing or Ubuntu setup? I click on my places then the windows network is empty
[06:04] <eulallia1> plenty room
[06:04] <eulallia1> i just dont want it to overwrite XD
[06:04] <leo_rockw> do you guys know of any ntfs defrag app for lignux?
[06:04] <preaction> daytona89, mount /dev/hda1 <- since you have an entry in /etc/fstab, that should give you the error message (or just work)
[06:04] <mono6> adorablepuppy: worked for me here, are you using Feisty?
[06:04] <PoofDaddy> preaction: I'm sorry.  My mistake.
[06:04] <adorablepuppy> . . . .  OH! I forgot to set my source list!
[06:04] <preaction> leo_rockw, ntfs doesn't need defrag
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> murtadashah: just mount the partition instead of using the network
[06:05] <adorablepuppy> It's still at default, silly me.
[06:05] <unique> !irc
[06:05] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[06:05] <leo_rockw> preaction, i think xp should be informed of that then
[06:05] <Kevin`> eulallia1 resize one of the partitions
[06:05] <eulallia1> it needs to be?
[06:05] <Ashfire908> mono6: in the grub wiki page, what it talking about symlinks? i know what symbolic links are but i have no clue what that does
[06:05] <eulallia1> theres only like 3 things on it, some sql >.> and my photoshop pics XD
[06:05] <Kevin`> well, unless you have unpartitioned space, which I doubt you do
[06:05] <mono6> Ashfire908: i never used symlinks with grub
[06:05] <eulallia1> and my photoshop will be deleted?
[06:05] <eulallia1> :(
[06:05] <preaction> PoofDaddy, fiesty? when grub boots you should have two seconds to press "esc" to see the full grub menu
[06:06] <Ashfire908> mono6: what they are trying to do
[06:06] <Kevin`> eulallia1 why would it be deleted
[06:06] <eulallia1> its on the partition which linux will be installed
[06:06] <eulallia1> >.>
[06:06] <daytona89> preaction: Unexpected clusters per mft record (-1).
[06:06] <daytona89> Failed to startup volume: Invalid argument
[06:06] <daytona89> Failed to mount '/dev/hda1': Invalid argument
[06:06] <daytona89> The device '/dev/hda1' doesn't have a valid NTFS.
[06:06] <Kevin`> that's why you should resize it
[06:06] <eulallia1> psh how
[06:06] <eulallia1> leel
[06:06] <mozart_> can someone please help me and post a little response to this mail http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3265109#post3265109
[06:06] <Kevin`> the installer can do it
[06:06] <eulallia1> without overwriting either
[06:06] <Kevin`> or use a gparted livecd
[06:06] <Ashfire908> !pastebin | daytona89
[06:06] <ubotu> daytona89: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:06] <mono6> Ashfire908: grub is really pretty simple...you have ONE master grub that you use and you just add entries to menu.lst and that's it
[06:06] <preaction> daytona89, are you sure you have a valid /dev/hda1 partition? is windows still on it? can you boot from it?
[06:06] <PoofDaddy> preaction: I will try that now
[06:06] <eulallia1> wow ubotu should do /noticeses instead of /msg $chan
[06:06] <eulallia1> XD
[06:07] <Kevin`> eulallia1 the resizing is non-destructive. just think with common sense
[06:07] <eulallia1> psh i havent used linux before
[06:07] <eulallia1> dont ask me :P
[06:07] <preaction> eulallia1, most people don't listen to /notice, really
[06:07] <Ashfire908> mono6 i'm not too comfortable messing with it
[06:07] <eulallia1> they would listen to /msg
[06:07] <preaction> !enter @ eulallia1
[06:07] <daytona89> preaction: yes to both. Fdisk -l yeilds: /dev/hda1   *           1       20669   166023711    7  HPFS/NTFS
[06:07] <Jordan_U> !bot > eulallia1
[06:07] <mono6> Ashfire908: after that re-install with grub-install /dev/hda (or wherever you have your bootloade)
[06:07] <eulallia1> -.-?
[06:07] <eulallia1> -.-
[06:07] <mattg> my mouse theme wont change... :(
[06:07] <eulallia1> lol i installed xubuntu on an old laptop, lagged XD
[06:07] <mono6> Ashfire908: you cannot break it, really...if it fails you can use the install disk
[06:07] <eulallia1> 256 ram >.>
[06:08] <Kevin`> did you configure at least 2d accellerated video drivers?
[06:08] <eulallia1> me?
[06:08] <Kevin`> yes
[06:08] <eulallia1> is it already configured on install
[06:08] <eulallia1> >.>
[06:08] <Ashfire908> eulallia1, resizing a ntfs (windows) partition is tricky cause windows lets the files get fragmented
[06:08] <kazim59> Hey ppl.. wish me good luck.. because I'm gonna start reading the book Linux Kernel Dev... lol hehe
[06:08] <Kevin`> the unaccellerated/framebuffer drivers are slow/laggy
[06:08] <mono6> Ashfire908: Boot the Live CD...mount your /boot partition, do a chroot and a grub-install
[06:08] <eulallia1> i have a sata and ntfs
[06:08] <eulallia1> =P
[06:08] <kazim59> the font problem was fixed, thanks
[06:08] <preaction> daytona89, then try specifying the type: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 <mountpoint>
[06:08] <eulallia1> er
[06:08] <leo_rockw> Ashfire908, do you know of any defragmenter that runs on linux?
[06:08] <eulallia1> fat32
[06:08] <unique> Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[06:09] <Kevin`> Ashfire908 it's not tricky at all. the program can handle fragmented files
[06:09] <eulallia1> rofl is there a linux that acts like a mac
[06:09] <eulallia1> :D
[06:09] <mono6> leo_rockw: there is no defrag to my knowledge
[06:09] <Jordan_U> !defrag | leo_rockw
[06:09] <ubotu> leo_rockw: defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[06:09] <Ashfire908> mono6: the system it's on (a server) doesn't like livecds and dumps me onto the command line
[06:09] <daytona89> preaction: what do you put in <mountpoint>?
[06:09] <leo_rockw> not for ext3
[06:09] <leo_rockw> for fat/ntfs
[06:09] <leo_rockw> to defrag a win partition from linux
[06:09] <Kevin`> eulallia1 I hope not =p
[06:09] <mono6> leo_rockw: would not be really wise to do it anyway...you can still boot into Windows after all
[06:09] <preaction> daytona89, the mount point. the directory where the drive should be mounted
[06:09] <unique> installing kde
[06:09] <eulallia1> lol kevin i hope so
[06:09] <eulallia1> :P
[06:09] <eulallia1> <3 mac
[06:09] <Ashfire908> Kevin`, oh. oh! it was really stupid with the space recovered.
[06:09] <leo_rockw> mono6, i don't trust those win apps, lol
[06:10] <unique> whats should i do Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[06:10] <panfist> hey, i have ubuntu installed on my HP laptop and its behaving weird...all i have open is the file browser and a PDF reader, and im not doing anything..yet every 30 secs it reads or writes to the disk. im not sure why, i just want it to stop so i have some longer battery life. how can i find out what is accessing the disk? thanks
[06:10] <Ashfire908> Kevin`, least it was for me
[06:10] <mono6> leo_rockw: then get rid of NTFS....bad, baaaad filesystem
[06:10] <preaction> unique, run sudo apt-get update?
[06:10] <mono6> leo_rockw: ;))))
[06:10] <preaction> !repositories | unique
[06:10] <Jordan_U> unique, Are you connected to the internet?
[06:10] <ubotu> unique: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:10] <leo_rockw> mono6, i will on my laptop. can't do it on the desktop tho, it isn't mine alone
[06:11] <PoofDaddy> preaction: i did it when i saw the option to hit esc, but it just boots to Ubuntu immediately.
[06:11] <Kevin`> Ashfire908 the intent is to move it using the least time, not to make a perfectly defragmented filesystem after the resizing. do that after.
[06:11] <mattg> there i got it figured out.  had to restart x
[06:11] <PoofDaddy> preaction:Doesn't give me an option for the recovery mode. I now what you're talking about though, because I'm using Ubuntu on this machine and I see it everytime I boot.
[06:11] <mono6> leo_rockw: i hear you....well, use Win to defrag... ;)
[06:11] <Ashfire908> leo_rockw, you can't defrag from windows. you can do a safemode boot in windows and defrag. should get most of the files moveable. i screwed up though you DON'T need to defrag it
[06:11] <daytona89> preaction: still same error... I wonder if something about that partition got messed up...?
[06:11] <mignish> Can someone direct me to some documentation or a howto... anything that will help me configure a users write access in proftpd?
[06:11] <preaction> PoofDaddy, looks like someone configured grub to skip that menu. you'll have to use a live CD to recover your X
[06:12] <preaction> daytona89, try with -t ntfs instead
[06:12] <leo_rockw> Ashfire908, ok
[06:12] <panfist> is there a program i can run that lets me monitor hard disk access?
[06:12] <Ashfire908> Kevin`,  no it would fail to resize if there was too much free space after the drive
[06:12] <PoofDaddy> preaction: that I have and that I will do
[06:12] <Ashfire908> panfist gnome-monitor
[06:12] <leo_rockw> mono6, either use win to defrag or make it a tinny partition so there's not enough room for fragmenting anyway :-P
[06:12] <mono6> leo_rockw: correct ;)
[06:12] <Ashfire908> panfist but it just shows how much is being done
[06:12] <Kevin`> not enough room for fragmentation? that's a contradiction
[06:13] <Jordan_U> leo_rockw, Less space means more fragmentation
[06:13] <Ashfire908> leo_rockw: windows is more stupid with fragmentation than you think.
[06:13] <mono6> leo_rockw: well, NTFS will defragment in a heartbeart, because Windows' HDD cache management s***s
[06:13] <panfist> ashfire908 i dont want to just that it is being accessed, but what specific programs are using it, and what they are doing
[06:14] <leo_rockw> Ashfire908, yeah, i just realized that. i'm not the one that will be using the win box anyway. i'm fine w/ my lignux
[06:14] <Ashfire908> panfist do a search in add/remove programs or synaptic
[06:14] <Kevin`> I personally ignore fragmentation, on both linux and windows
[06:14] <mono6> quick poll: what do you feel is missing in Ubuntu?
[06:14] <Kevin`> mono6 arm support? ;)
[06:15] <Jordan_U> !offtopic | mono6
[06:15] <ubotu> mono6: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:15] <Ashfire908> leo_rockw, you will need to have windows check it's ntfs journal cause windows is even more stupid with that.
[06:15] <mono6> oops, wrong channel ;)
[06:15] <daytona89> preaction: still thinks it's not an NTFS vol. Gonna go reboot and make sure I can still boot windows...
[06:15] <Ashfire908> leo_rockw, it will do it automaticly. just boot it aftr you are done partitioning
[06:15] <preaction> daytona89, sounds good. sure it isn't fat32?
[06:16] <Outlander> hi
[06:16] <mono6> time to hit the sack. g'nite.
[06:16] <Outlander> what's the easiest way to rip dvd to xvid?
[06:16] <Ashfire908> does windows even check it's journal? or use it at all?
[06:16] <daytona89> preaction: yes, definitely. I'll bbiab to let you know how it went. Thanks for the help!
[06:16] <whta> idling too long in ubuntu now completely turns off my computer to where I can't turn it back on. I have to flip off the soft switch and turn it back on for it to work again. windows does not do this. what's going on?
[06:16] <kersinc> #ubuntu-es
[06:16] <leo_rockw> Ashfire908, i already installed kubuntu on my lappy a long time ago but it wasn't on a partition. the whole hd is ubuntufied. i'll keep that in mind for the desktop, tho
[06:17] <astro76> Outlander, try dvd::rip
[06:17] <Outlander> cool thanks
[06:17] <Ashfire908> whtm sounds like it's either failing to suspend or hibernate
[06:17] <doug__> can u run nintendo emulators installed on ubuntu to run in xp?
[06:17] <Ashfire908> leo_rockw, you can't NOT have a partition
[06:17] <astro76> doug__, huh?
[06:17] <leo_rockw> Ashfire908, well i meant that i only have an ubuntu partition (and the swap) but no windoze
[06:17] <unique> ok when im done with the kde installation should i reboot?
[06:17] <teKnofreak> whta, check your Power Savings Manager and stop your system from moving to suspend or hibernate when it is idle for N mins
[06:18] <Ashfire908> leo_rockw, that's a ext3 partition
[06:18] <unique> or is there something else ill have to do?
[06:18] <teKnofreak> unique, restart X
[06:18] <doug__> astro76,  if u get a snes emulator install it in ubuntu and thn get on xp can u play it on xp while its installed on ubuntu?
[06:18] <leo_rockw> Ashfire908, yup... but i wasn't thinking about installing lignux on my desktop. i never had to do the whole xp rezising and stuff before.
[06:19] <GmrAddc> can anybody help me install a ati X1650 video card?
[06:19] <reyed> hi
[06:19] <unique> thanks
[06:19] <leo_rockw> Ashfire908, i WAS thinking*
[06:19] <GmrAddc> ?
[06:20] <Ashfire908> GmrAddc, did you try activating the restriced drive?
[06:20] <astro76> doug__, linux and windows run entirely different software. That said, zsnes is available for both windows and linux.
[06:20] <Ashfire908> *driver
[06:20] <teKnofreak> leo_rockw, if you have a free/can be freed E or F drive (extra partition) then use it for installing linux
[06:20] <GmrAddc> yea and next time i restart it jsut stays at a blank screen :(
[06:20] <doug__> astro76,  thanks
[06:20] <Ashfire908> GmrAddc, blank screen? the whole screen?
[06:20] <gortba_> Hi everyone. Can someone give me some guidelines on how much space to allocate the my 250 gig hard drive for /, /home, and /boot partitions?
[06:21] <wolferine> doug__, back for another round of leanin' linux
[06:21] <GmrAddc> yes the entire screen just stays black
[06:21] <leo_rockw> teKnofreak, i'm probly going to do that, thanks
[06:21] <Ashfire908> GmrAddc: oh after you enable desktop effects?
[06:21] <leo_rockw> GmrAddc, i made a post in the ubuntuforums once about an x1400. it may be useful for you. lemme find it
[06:21] <teKnofreak> gord, its your wish, depending upon how much stuffs you want to save, /boot needs to be 512M max IIRC
[06:22] <teKnofreak> errr... gortba_ ^^
[06:22] <GmrAddc> nope just when i enable the restricted drivers, then i reboot, and it goes past the loading screen but never gets to the login screen
[06:22] <GmrAddc> it just stays black
[06:22] <teKnofreak> gortba_, and have something around 15-20 Gig /
[06:22] <astro76> gortba_, I'd make / 15-20 GB and /home the rest
[06:22] <astro76> hehe
[06:22] <teKnofreak> astro76, ;)
[06:22] <Ashfire908> GmrAddc can you get into the computer?
[06:22] <GmrAddc> no not at all
[06:22] <GmrAddc> im reinstalling ubuntu at the moment
[06:23] <gortba_> When I install software, does that use up / space?
[06:23] <WaltzingAlong> ugh. this is not ms windows. a reinstall is not the first option. lol
[06:23] <astro76> gortba_, yes
[06:23] <leo_rockw> GmrAddc, check my post on this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=516835
[06:23] <doug__> wolferine,  lol i been on linux
[06:23] <teKnofreak> gortba_, yes unless you are building from source and do the install in /home
[06:23] <unique> ok i just installed kde how do i know if its running?
[06:24] <leo_rockw> unique, startkde
[06:24] <teKnofreak> unique, in the login screen select Sessions --> KDE
[06:24] <PoofDaddy> preaction: ok I got a live CD running.  What should I do now?  Open a terminal and run some commands, right?  Which ones?
[06:24] <GmrAddc> ashfire any ideas?
[06:24] <gortba_> So, I like to install a lot of software, should I make / bigger that 15-20 GB?
[06:24] <astro76> gortba_, you can fit a metric ton of software in 20GB, linux programs are not as bloated as windows, in large part due to shared libraries
[06:24] <mikubuntu> leo_rockw: i have been having this problem for the last 4 or 5 hours since i did a fresh install of xub 704, cannot get proper screen resolution to render.  we checked the xorg.conf files and everything seems to be correct in there, everything set to 1024, but yet the actual res is nothing close, do you have any ideas?
[06:24] <WaltzingAlong> gortba_: that should be plenty
[06:24] <teKnofreak> gortba_, 20 gig should be ideal
[06:24] <GmrAddc> leo rock thats for a  x1400
[06:24] <gortba_> ahh I see
[06:24] <XdorotaX> how do i log in as root?
[06:25] <astro76> !sudo | XdorotaX
[06:25] <ubotu> XdorotaX: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:25] <teKnofreak> XdorotaX, why you need to ?
[06:25] <preaction> PoofDaddy, the first thing you'll want to do is mount your hard drive with ubuntu on it. then you want to "chroot" to the place you mounted that partition. then you can do :
[06:25] <leo_rockw> GmrAddc, i'm not 100% sure, but i think the drivers are the same
[06:25] <preaction> !fixres | PoofDaddy
[06:25] <ubotu> PoofDaddy: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:25] <GmrAddc> hmmm ok ok
[06:25] <GmrAddc> i will try this
[06:25] <XdorotaX> teKnofreak: to run apache
[06:25] <leo_rockw> if it doesn't work just uninstall the packets and that's it
[06:25] <tondar> hey all
[06:25] <leo_rockw> GmrAddc, make a backup of xorg.conf, tho
[06:25] <teKnofreak> XdorotaX, sudo /etc/init.d/apache or do it from System --> Admin --> services
[06:25] <tondar> is there an app for call waiting in ubuntu?
[06:25] <GmrAddc> how?
[06:26] <GmrAddc> lol im  a newbie, im trying to do this for a friend
[06:26] <GmrAddc> i use nvidia in linux :)
[06:26] <GmrAddc> so much better
[06:26] <teKnofreak> XdorotaX, sudo /etc/init.d/apache start
[06:26] <XdorotaX> ok
[06:26] <XdorotaX> thanx
[06:26] <leo_rockw> GmrAddc, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bkup
[06:26] <tondar> is there an app for call waiting in ubuntu?
[06:26] <GmrAddc> thankyou :)
[06:26] <daytona89> preaction: that partition appears to be broken. What are my options for attempting to fix it?
[06:27] <leo_rockw> mikubuntu, i was going to suggest to go through xorg... other than that idk
[06:27] <gortba_> One last thing. I want to try using logical volumes. Should I not allocate some of my space to allow my partitions to grow, or should I allocate everything as an LVM of some sort?
[06:27] <ome> How do I delete a directory and all the files in it from terminal
[06:27] <teKnofreak> GmrAddc, whenever you want to edit an existing config file, back it up
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> tondar: I'm sure asterisk could do that somehow, but no idea of the details
[06:27] <GmrAddc> i tried editing xorg and it just fucks it up every time
[06:27] <preaction> daytona89, beats me
[06:27] <GmrAddc> ive tried so many different forums and crap
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | GmrAddc
[06:27] <ubotu> GmrAddc: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:27] <GmrAddc> its so annoying
[06:27] <Gaidin> how do i allow rwe access of a folder on an ext fat32 hdd to a windows machine?
[06:27] <GmrAddc> ok im sorry
[06:27] <astro76> gortba_, with just those partitions, you won't really need to do shuffling
[06:28] <daytona89> I have a messed up NTFS partition. Is there any linux software for attempting to diagnose/fix it?
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> Gaidin: I don't remember the syntax offhand, but look into changing the umask in /etc/fstab
[06:28] <leo_rockw> GmrAddc, you should always keep a backup of xorg.conf
[06:28] <mikubuntu> leo_rockw: is it possible or likely that it is a problem related to the install?  if i did a reinstall would that possibly help?  or some kind of upgrade to xorg?
[06:28] <Gaidin> heh? plaease not i am very new to linux
[06:28] <tondar> anyone any idea?
[06:28] <astro76> daytona89, ntfsfix in the ntfsprogs package
[06:28] <GmrAddc> any other ideas lol :P
[06:28] <tondar> call waiting under ubuntu
[06:28] <glguy> would anyone happen to know of a solution to my Dell D630 dropping to a busybox shell when I try to boot the liveCD?
[06:28] <ome> How do you delete a directory and all files in it from terminal?
[06:28] <GmrAddc> from anybody
[06:28] <onats> is anyone encountering problems with the 64 bit version fo ubuntu?
[06:28] <GmrAddc> god linux and ati are like......ewwwwwwwwwwwwww
[06:28] <astro76> ome, rm -r directory/
[06:29] <lgc_> Does anyone know a curve digitizer?
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> Gaidin: Google for "umask /etc/fstab fat32 0000"
[06:29] <teKnofreak> ome, rm -rf dir/
[06:29] <Gaidin> ok
[06:29] <Gaidin> ta
[06:29] <werkkrew> I have just installed Ubuntu on my spare pc for the first time and when I boot into recovery mode I am getting the last line as "v2.6:USB HID core driver" then it dumps me to a shell after about 5 minutes - Any ideas?
[06:29] <daytona89> astro76: I installed ntfsprogs. How do I use it? It's not in the menu.
[06:29] <leo_rockw> mikubuntu, this is not windoze... we usually don't need to reinstall. you can try sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade and see if that solves anything... but idk
[06:29] <swarna> coud anybody tell me how to mount partition in kde desktop
[06:29] <tondar> call waiting app in ubuntu??! any ideas??
[06:29] <PoofDaddy> preaction: that live CD hasn't finished booting.  There seems to be an error.  I'm using Helix, since i lost my Knoppix.  It says HELIX IMAGE is a squashfs compressed image.  Does that mean anything to you?
[06:29] <teKnofreak> daytona89, man ntfsprogs ?
[06:30] <astro76> daytona89, it's command line, you need to unmount the partition then sudo ntfsfix /dev/whatever
[06:30] <GmrAddc> :(
[06:30] <wolferine> swarna, do you know the type of the partition ?
[06:30] <teKnofreak> swarna, sudo mount /source/path dest/path
[06:30] <preaction> PoofDaddy, nothing whatsoever. any problem with getting a new live cd?
[06:30] <GmrAddc> ok bye guyes
[06:30] <lgc_> Curve digitizer, ala WinDig, for Linux? Help?
[06:31] <imbecile> hey all, I was wondering if there were any apps or anything that checks pucntuation.. I'm emailing this girl & I dont want alot of errors
[06:31] <daytona89> ntfsfix advises me to run chkdsk...?
[06:31] <teKnofreak> imbecile, doesn't your email client have a spell check ?
[06:31] <imbecile> teKnofreak:  nope :(
[06:32] <gortba_> astro76: Thanks for your help. Then here's what I gather. 512 mb for /boot ext3, 20 for / as a logical volume and /home the rest as a logical volume with / and /home under the same logical volume group. Lastly, what should be the primary partition?
[06:32] <astro76> daytona89, daytona89 from windows
[06:32] <PoofDaddy> preaction: helix is knoppix-based: http://www.e-fense.com/helix/index.php
[06:32] <teKnofreak> gortba_, the root
[06:32] <imbecile> i was just going to c/p from gedit or something.. does gedit have spell check?
[06:32] <astro76> gortba_, what about swap?
[06:32] <blackest> for some reason one of my ubuntu pc's is acting as a win server any idea what needs altering so it doesnt its creating chaos on my lan ?
[06:32] <unique> ok my mind just went out the window
[06:33] <unique> thanks guys
[06:33] <daytona89> astro76: so... put win on another drive, boot it, and use this one as a slave drive and chkdsk that way?
[06:33] <preaction> imbecile, because hiding your true self and your true inability to spell will really impress her 6 months down the line
[06:33] <astro76> gortba_, AFAIK they all can be logical, someone correct me if I'm wrong
[06:33] <gortba_> astro76: ahh...yes 1 gig for swap under the log vol group
[06:33] <astro76> daytona89, why do you have ntfs with no windows?
[06:33] <imbecile> preaction:  I just want a 1 night or so stand.. I dont want to date her
[06:34] <preaction> imbecile, at least you have an appropriate nickname
[06:34] <imbecile> thx
[06:34] <daytona89> astro76: my windows partition is ntfs, but it's on the same drive as Ubuntu, and it won't boot. Grub says the partition is not recognized (though it worked yesterday before I installed gfxboot)
[06:34] <imbecile> well that does'nt exactly answer my question though
[06:34] <imbecile> doesn't
[06:35] <Tom-Miller> help!
[06:35] <astro76> daytona89, maybe you can do it from the windows cd
[06:35] <gortba_> astro76: and teKnofreak: thanks much for your help. Installing a fresh system is always refreshing.
[06:35] <gortba_> Catch you all later.
[06:35] <teKnofreak> gortba_, you are always welcome :)
[06:35] <Tom-Miller> I tried installing compiz-fusion, and now it says something is wrong, and only lets me run apt-get -f install
[06:36] <Tom-Miller> and when I run it, I keep getting this error: "Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:36] <Tom-Miller>  /var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-gnome_1%3a0.5.5~git20070824+3v1ubuntu0_i386.deb
[06:36] <Tom-Miller> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[06:36] <preaction> Tom-Miller, #ubuntu-effects can help you
[06:36] <daytona89> astro76: I'll give it a shot. Back in a sec.
[06:36] <panfist> hey, i have ubuntu installed on my HP laptop and its behaving weird...all i have open is the file browser and a PDF reader, and im not doing anything..yet every 30 secs it reads or writes to the disk. im not sure why, i just want it to stop so i have some longer battery life. how can i find out what is accessing the disk? thanks
[06:36] <teKnofreak> Tom-Miller, the installation had some problem, remove the package using apt-get and then try to freshly install
[06:37] <lgc_> Flannel, you there?
[06:37] <warbler> !top
[06:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about top - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:37] <tondar> call waiting app in ubuntu??! any ideas??
[06:37] <teKnofreak> panfist, is it slowing down your other things ?
[06:37] <Tom-Miller> teKnofreak: I can't remove, it says please run apt-get -f install
[06:37] <teKnofreak> Tom-Miller, do apt-get -f install.. what happens ?
[06:38] <Tom-Miller> teKnofreak: it gives the error message posted abot
[06:38] <Tom-Miller> above*
[06:38] <panfist> teknofreak: it is not slowing them down, but it is draining the battery. in windows when im reading a pdf the hard disk spins down after 5 minutes and i get at least 30 more minutes out of my battery
[06:38] <lgc_> Jordan_U, you there?
[06:38] <teKnofreak> Tom-Miller, try apt-get remove --force gnome-compiz
[06:38] <Tom-Miller> I tried doing sudo apt-get clean, then update again, but it didn't help
[06:38] <Jordan_U> lgc_, yes
[06:38] <teKnofreak> panfist, there is a possibility that it is running updatedb
[06:38] <Tom-Miller> E: Command line option --force is not understood
[06:38] <leo_rockw> imbecile, did you try the OO spell checker maybe?
[06:39] <teKnofreak> Tom-Miller, ah wait lemme check
[06:39] <leo_rockw> imbecile, i don't know of any app that checks punctuation, tho
[06:39] <imbecile> leo_rockw:  I'll give it a look
[06:39] <imbecile> thanks :)
[06:39] <leo_rockw> imbecile, np
[06:39] <macaco> hello
[06:39] <leo_rockw> hello macaco
[06:40] <panfist> teknofreak i dont see a proc named updatedb in top or the gui monitor
[06:40] <Mr-Snick> ay, 2 questions;   1. anyone know a good firewall for ubuntu? 2. I have icons stuck on my panel, how do i restart just the panel to remove these dead icons?
[06:40] <teKnofreak> panfist, hmm
[06:40] <Kevin`> Mr-Snick the normal linux netfilter works fine..
[06:40] <teKnofreak> panfist, check your services and remove the unwanted ones
[06:41] <astro76> !firestarter | Mr-Snick
[06:41] <ubotu> Mr-Snick: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:41] <Mr-Snick> ah ok, how would i go about accessing that?
[06:41] <Mr-Snick> nvm .. lol
[06:41] <macaco> hey guys how i can install amarok 1.4.7 on my ubuntu 7.04
[06:41] <Mr-Snick> ty
[06:41] <werkkrew> I have just installed Ubuntu on my spare pc for the first time and when I boot into recovery mode I am getting the last line as "v2.6:USB HID core driver" then it dumps me to a shell after about 5 minutes - Any ideas?
[06:41] <leo_rockw> macaco, i think it should be in the repositories
[06:41] <lgc_> Jordan_U, hi! I was wondering if you could help me out with 2 things: Do you happen to know of a Linux curve digitizer? And the other one is: I used the gtik2 applet all the time up to Edgy. And then some smart guy must have decided it was not good enough to include in Feisty, I suppose. Do you know how can I include it so I can place it on the panel?
[06:41] <macaco> i have old version
[06:41] <Tom-Miller> teKnofreak: ?
[06:42] <leo_rockw> macaco, ooo. you want especifically 1.4.7? then you probly need to wait if it is not in the repos already
[06:42] <teKnofreak> Tom-Miller, try to remove the particular package "gnome-compiz" and do an update
[06:42] <leo_rockw> macaco, or compile it yourself.
[06:42] <leo_rockw> macaco, or upgrade to gutsy which i don't recommend if you're a newbie
[06:43] <File13> heres a question....ive seen a torrent for like ubuntu ultimate before with all this stuff preinstalled, etc if i installed all the apps i wanted in ubuntu and got my wireless working by updating my drivers is there a way i could make an archive of that state so if i ever messed up i could just install ubuntu w/ those programs and the wireless configured properly?!
[06:43] <macaco> i no like it that version i use Ubuntu
[06:43] <Jordan_U> lgc_, I don't know anything about gtik2 or curve digitizers, sorry
[06:44] <leo_rockw> macaco, gutsy is ubuntu, tho. but not recommended anyway
[06:44] <lgc_> Jordan_U, perhaps you know something about the functioning of the panel?
[06:44] <bullgard4> What is the function of the file /etc/inputrc? "global inputrc for libreadline" does not make it clear to me.
[06:44] <astro76> File13, I think ubuntu ultimate also uses automatix or envy, so stay away from that
[06:44] <teKnofreak> macaco, go to OO's home site, get the deb package if available and install it with dpkg
[06:44] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[06:44] <tumblewee1> hmmmmmmm
[06:44] <leo_rockw> teKnofreak, i didn't know there was a deb available. thx for helping him
[06:44] <leo_rockw> hello raddy
[06:45] <mikubuntu> leo_rockw: ok, so now i'm having this other problem, can you help me with a wired connection?  automagic dchp din't work.
[06:45] <File13>  well im not saying im gonna use ubuntu ultimate, im just saying can i make my own ultimate distro or whatever, with what a save of my present state in ubuntu so if i messed up or reinstalled on another comp it would come with all the stuff preconfigured
[06:45] <Tom-Miller> teKnofreak: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-gnome_1%3a0.5.5~git20070824+3v1ubuntu0_i386.deb (--unpack):
[06:45] <Tom-Miller>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/compiz/libgconf.so', which is also in package compiz-plugins
[06:45] <Tom-Miller> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:45] <Tom-Miller>  /var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-gnome_1%3a0.5.5~git20070824+3v1ubuntu0_i386.deb
[06:45] <Tom-Miller> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:45] <teKnofreak> leo_rockw, probably there should be a deb
[06:45] <v> Hello -- I am looking for information on how to find the Compiz-Settinsg-Manager in ubuntu 7.04, my compiz is working fine, everything works, I just need to change the colour of the sky.
[06:45] <macaco> what is the addressee web site?
[06:45] <brad016> I try to install the "vmware_server" through "Add/Remove Applications" and it says "Cannot install 'vmware-server'
[06:45] <brad016> This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'vmware-server' the conflicting software must be removed first. Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict."
[06:45] <Frogzoo> Tom-Miller: use pastebin
[06:45] <teKnofreak> Tom-Miller, use a pastebin
[06:45] <raddy> Is there any apt sources out there for latest fglrx for fiesty?
[06:45] <tumblewee1> ok
[06:45] <teKnofreak> !pastebin | Tom-Miller
[06:45] <ubotu> Tom-Miller: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:45] <mikubuntu> leo_rockw: if i can get connected maybe the upgrade will fix my screenres
[06:45] <astro76> File13, you can save a file with your package selections and then restore on another system
[06:45] <Gaidin> hey it ia acting odd i told samba to share one folder but when it is accessed from ther windows machine it accesses my home folder the floder i want shared is on another drive!
[06:45] <tumblewee1> I'm having a weird problem with GRUB, can anyone help me?
[06:45] <Gaidin> *is
[06:46] <Gaidin> *folder
[06:46] <leo_rockw> mikubuntu, well, what i did for not automagical wifi was to set a fixed ip. it will probly work for your case too.
[06:46] <Bo1> i dont know how 2 install my graphic card
[06:46] <Jordan_U> lgc_, I don't even know what package would contain the applet you mentioned
[06:46] <tumblewee1> here's the deal
[06:50] (Jordan_U/#ubuntu) lgc_, Is it now called Invest ?
[06:50] (stewpower/#ubuntu) for nvidia i found it easiest to use the driver package straight from nvidia
[06:50] (WheelDweller/#ubuntu) Bo1: I have an Nvidia too, just older one.
[06:50] (macaco/#ubuntu) ubuntu Media Center RC2 were i can find it? :(
[06:51] (teKnofreak/#ubuntu) macaco, google
[06:51] (Bo1/#ubuntu) wheeldweller:my PCI card crashes my ubuntu if i dont install right way
[06:51] (Bo1/#ubuntu) i crashed it 2 times
[06:51] (tumblewee1/#ubuntu) nobody?
[06:51] <Bo1> leo_rockw:are you going 2 help?
[06:51] <brad016> Can anyone help me? I can not install Vmware server, it tells me I have to use 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict.
[06:52] <leo_rockw> Bo1, read the site ubotu told you about
[06:52] <teKnofreak> tumblewee1, when you connect your external hard disk it is hd0 ?
[06:52] <warbler> tumbleweel: from the live cd run sudo grub then find /boot/grub stage1
[06:52] <tumblewee1> hmmmm
[06:52] <tumblewee1> it's sdb
[06:52] <Bo1> leo_rockw:i dont understand what is saying!
[06:52] <WheelDweller> Bo1: Ah, you might be trying/avoiding the vesa driver.  I'm not an expert, but that's the kind of thing the faq/wiki will have.  There's a procedure for newer nvidia cards, I just don't know it. (Don't have one.)
[06:52] <File13> if i have a wireless usb card how can i tell weather its in spot wlan0 or wlan1
[06:52] <Jordan_U> lgc_, The package gnome-applets ( which is installed by default ) claims to have a stock applet
[06:52] <tumblewee1> I want GRUB installed on my internal hard drive anyways
[06:52] <warbler> tumbleweel; in a terminal
[06:52] <tumblewee1> ok, what command?
[06:52] <lgc_> Jordan_U, no, it should be similar, but the application is broken. There's no way to configure it.
[06:53] <Jordan_U> lgc_, And I see it in the accessories section
[06:53] <teKnofreak> tumblewee1, you can google to find out how to install grub
[06:53] <warbler> tumbleweel: sudo grub
[06:53] <brad016>  Can anyone help me? I can not install Vmware server, it tells me I have to use 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict. Can anyone help me? I can not install Vmware server, it tells me I have to use 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict. Can anyone help me? I can not install Vmware server, it tells me I have to use 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict. Can anyone help me? I can not inst
[06:53] <brad016> all Vmware server, it tells me I have to use 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict. Can anyone help me? I can not install Vmware server, it tells me I have to use 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict. Can anyone help me? I can not install Vmware server, it tells me I have to use 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict. Can anyone help me? I can not install Vmware server, it tells me I ha
[06:53] <brad016> ve to use 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict. Can anyone help me? I can not install Vmware server, it tells me I have to use 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict. Can anyone help me? I can not install Vmware server, it tells me I have to use 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict. Can anyone help me? I can not install Vmware server, it tells me I have to use 'synaptic' package manage
[06:53] <Bo1> wheeldweller:can u just tell me step by step
[06:53] <tumblewee1> well
[06:53] <tumblewee1> GRUB is installed, but I get error 21 when trying to boot
[06:54] <File13> how can i tell what my wireless usb card is, wlan0 or wlan1
[06:54] <Jordan_U> lgc_, That's Gnome for you... they probably don't consider it broken even if it is useless for most ( like screensaver preferences, or the lack thereof )
[06:54] <WheelDweller> Bo1: No, actually I can't...it's involved and I don't have one.  Go to the site; that'll get it for you.
[06:54] <lgc_> Jordan_U, I don't think I have them installed...
[06:54] <Bo1> some1 help me install my graphic card?
[06:54] <Jordan_U> lgc_, You don't see "Invest" as an option to add?
[06:54] <WheelDweller> Bo1: Can you not get graphics right now?
[06:54] <Bo1> step by step
[06:54] <dug> I am trying to get zaptel support in my kernel but I keep getting the error: http://pastebin.ca/673123
[06:54] <lgc_> Jordan_U, yes, I do.
[06:54] <cishpix> ubuntu can run if the spec of computer is Processor VIA C3 Ezra 798 MHz, RAM 256 Mb (Share 32 Mb for VGA).
[06:55] <warbler> tumbleweel: finding grub is a start to fixing it
[06:55] <lgc_> Jordan_U, it even installed itself in place of gtik2.
[06:55] <tumblewee1> ok, I've typed sudo grub
[06:55] <tumblewee1> I'm at the grub prompt right now, what next?
[06:55] <T`> hi.. anyone here has a core duo?
[06:55] <lgc_> Jordan_U, but my question was if 'gnome-applets' was something I should install...
[06:55] <T`> does your top show two CPUs?
[06:55] <warbler> tumbleweel: find /boot/grub/stage1
[06:55] <T`> 'top' that is
[06:56] <Mr-Snick> Thanks Astro76.. i've set the firewall up :)
[06:56] <tumblewee1> it's at hd1,1
[06:56] <Jordan_U> lgc_, Ubuntu-desktop depends on it, so you should have it installed by default
[06:56] <tumblewee1> strange, it was supposed to install to hdo0....
[06:56] <tumblewee1> hd0*
[06:56] <tumblewee1> or is that just the MBR?
[06:56] <warbler> tumbleweel: what device is hd1
[06:57] <mikubuntu> leo, i only have one ethernet wire, the one that's on this computer, i have the network connections window open on the opther machine i'm trying to configure and it asks for ip address, subnet mask, and gateway address, where do i find these?
[06:57] <Jordan_U> tumblewee1, (hd0) would be MBR, (hd0,0) would be a partition
[06:57] <tumblewee1> hd1 is my external drive, sdb
[06:57] <tumblewee1> hd0 is my internal drive, I'm guessing
[06:58] <lgc_> Jordan_U, it doesn't seem to be under Applications->Accesories or anywhere nearby.
[06:58] <mikubuntu> leo_rockw:, i only have one ethernet wire, the one that's on this computer, i have the network connections window open on the opther machine i'm trying to configure and it asks for ip address, subnet mask, and gateway address, where do i find these?
[06:58] <tumblewee1> oh dear
[06:58] <Boones> hd0 is the drive where you're system starts from
[06:58] <tumblewee1> I want this to be able to boot without my external drive plugged in, but GRUB is installed on my external drive
[06:58] <logreeval> Hi, i just built a computer and went to hook up my monitor, but there is no monitor connector thing??, is my monitor like outdated or something??
[06:58] <T`> no one with core duo?
[06:59] <warbler> tumbleweel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/8978 try this
[06:59] <Tom-Miller> teKnofreak: ok seems I got it fixed, thanks for the help
[06:59] <v> Hello, I'd like to know how to change the colour of the cube / access the controls for compiz in Feisty-Fawn. Anyone know the command to access the compiz-settings manager?
[06:59] <Boones> logreeval let me guess.. your monitor is a small connector, but your graphic adapter only have those white big plugs?
[06:59] <teKnofreak> tumblewee1, you can install grub on your internal hard disk and ask it to boot, but if you want it to boot the linux in external hard disk then you have to plugin the ext hdd and configure grub accordingly
[06:59] <leo_> hello again
[06:59] <teKnofreak> Tom-Miller, welcome:)
[07:00] <tumblewee1> I don't use a RAID controller
[07:00] <Jordan_U> lgc_, It shouldn't be, it's they are just applets for the panel
[07:00] <Bo1> can some1 help me step by step how to install my PCI graphic card
[07:01] <tumblewee1> well, here's the deal, my BIOS doesn't support booting from USB, and I'm the only one who likes to use linux, so you have to be able to boot without the external drive plugged in
[07:01] <logreeval> Boones: i guess...the place that i thought was the monitor, doesnt have the receving end, it has the plugs
[07:01] <lgc_> IIRC, you told me it was under "Accesories".
[07:01] <tumblewee1> I don't care if I can't boot linux, because when I want to boot it, the drive will be plugged in
[07:01] <Boones> logreeval, thats the serial port
[07:01] <teKnofreak> tumblewee1, if the OS is in external hard disk you need it to boot into, grub can be locally but the OS is where ?
[07:01] <VICM> Hello -- I am looking for information on how to find the Compiz-Settinsg-Manager in ubuntu 7.04, my compiz is working fine, everything works, I just need to change the colour of the sky.
[07:02] <Jordan_U> lgc_, Accesories in the Add to Panel area
[07:02] <Boones> logreeval your monitor is analogue.. i assume that youre graphic card is dvi-i
[07:02] <Bo1> hello somebody help. me step by step to install my PCI graphic card
[07:02] <tumblewee1> well, I have windows on the internal drive and everyone but me uses that, so I guess I want GRUB on the internal drive
[07:02] <lgc_> Jordan_U, Oh, i see.
[07:02] <Boones> logreeval there should be a adapter in your graphic-card package
[07:03] <logreeval> Boones: so, can i plug this monitor in through and adapter?
[07:03] <logreeval> Boones: ....let me check..
[07:03] <lgc_> Jordan_U, you don't like Gnome, do you?
[07:03] <logreeval> Boones: what would it look like?
[07:03] <Jordan_U> lgc_, Overall I do, they just do some really stupid things sometimes
[07:04] <Bo1> somebody help. me step by step to install my PCI graphic card
[07:04] <tumblewee1> so I guess I just need instructions to install GRUB on my internal disk instead
[07:04] <leo_> !repeat | Bol
[07:04] <ubotu> Bol: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:04] <teKnofreak> tumblewee1, man grub or google for install grub from Live CD
[07:04] <Boones> logreeval one side big, other side small.. something like 2 thumps long and a half thump thick
[07:04] <tumblewee1> ok, I'll try that
[07:04] <warbler> tumbleweel:go here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3217323
[07:04] <arun> what are the keyboard shortcuts to switch between workspaces?
[07:05] <Jordan_U> arun, ctrl+alt+ arrow keys
[07:05] <lgc_> Jordan_U, what's the way to report them a bug or present our beefs?
[07:05] <arun> jordan_U: thanks
[07:05] <Boones> logreeval you should be able to connect your monitor cable on one side :)
[07:05] <Flannel> lgc_: what's up?
[07:05] <Bo1> somebody anybody help. me step by step how to install PCI graphic card
[07:05] <teKnofreak> arun, you can look at preferences --. keyboard shortcuts to know more
[07:05] <logreeval> Boones: i dont think i have it :'-(
[07:06] <logreeval> Boones: >> http://www.outletpc.com/c3515.html
[07:06] <logreeval> Boones: that is what i have
[07:06] <Bo1> come on guys what about me
[07:06] <arun> teKnofreak: alright.. after using kde for so long, i'm used to different keyboard shortcuts :) i'll check out the keyboard shortcuts section though, thanks
[07:06] <Fezzler> writing a script.  If I want to run file ./dd in /home/dad/files/dd can I just use RUN+=~/.dd
[07:06] <leo_> !patience | Bol
[07:06] <ubotu> Bol: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:06] <Jordan_U> lgc_, http://bugzilla.gnome.org/
[07:06] <warbler> bol: what's the card?
[07:06] <Bo1> am a windows user not linux am not good understand!ing ubuntu command
[07:07] <tumblewee1> hmmm
[07:07] <bullgard4> What does 'rc' stand for in /etc/inputrc?
[07:07] <brad016> How do you install the Leopard version of Avant Window Manager
[07:07] <tumblewee1> that doesn't help me much
[07:07] <astro76> logreeval, you don't have a video card?
[07:07] <lgc_> Flannel, I was trying to find out why gtik2 was wiped from the applications of the Gnome panel and some stupid replacement took its place.
[07:07] <Boones> logreeval, okay thats the mainboard
[07:07] <tumblewee1> I can't use the bios boot selection, because my BIOS doesn't support booting from USB
[07:07] <Boones> logreeval, which graphic card?
[07:07] <Flannel> brad016: runtime config
[07:07] <warbler> tumbleweel: which that
[07:07] <astro76> logreeval, that board does not have onboard video
[07:07] <logreeval> Boones: i dont have a graphics card O_o
[07:07] <lgc_> Flannel, but then I sort of remember you favor barebones installs...
[07:07] <Flannel> bullgard4: runtime config, even
[07:07] <tumblewee1> the ubuntuforums link can't help me much
[07:07] <sanzanric> is  it possible to upgrade from 32bit feisty to 64bit gusty
[07:07] <brad016> Flannel, what about it?
[07:07] <Flannel> lgc_: Some stupid replacement?
[07:08] <teKnofreak> tumblewee1, google can :P
[07:08] <dug> why I am I getting this error? http://pastebin.ca/673136
[07:08] <Boones> logreeval, that could explain, why you can't connect a monitor ^^
[07:08] <Flannel> brad016: sorry, miscomplete
[07:08] <Bo1> somebody anybody:how do i install step by step my Graphic card?
[07:08] <warbler> tumbleweel: tells you how to shift grub
[07:08] <tumblewee1> I've tried google a few times
[07:08] <logreeval> Boones: so i guess i have to buy a graphcis card, eh?
[07:08] <tumblewee1> maybe a better idea would be to get NTLDR to load ubuntu?
[07:08] <Jordan_U> Bo1, What Model?
[07:08] <Boones> logreeval :) sure
[07:08] <fulat2k> hi folks, anyone here knows how to get a usb wifi stick working (tagged to rausb1) using (k)networkmanager?  i'm currently hardcoding all entries in interfaces file.
[07:08] <Boones> logreeval for there board a AGP
[07:09] <logreeval> Boones: dang, well, tomorrow i will run over and pick one up.......is there anything special i should look for?
[07:09] <Fezzler> any ever use udev to auto mount usb device?
[07:09] <Bo1> jordan_u:e-GeForce FX5200, PCI
[07:09] <warbler> tumbleweel: let's try something - what is it not doing that is the problem
[07:09] <logreeval> Boones: AGP, what does that mean?
[07:09] <lgc_> Flannel, yes, something that you can't do nothing with, except do away with it. It's called "Invest".
[07:09] <brad016> Flannel, so how do I install it? I've tried everything but there is one broken link on their website
[07:09] <Jordan_U> Bo1, I assume Restricted Manager didn't work?
[07:09] <tumblewee1> true, but I've just now thought that I'll have problems starting up grub every time I start my computer without the hard drive plugged in.
[07:09] <Bo1> jordan_u:right
[07:10] <Boones> logreeval its the slot.. like PCI, your mainoard uses a AGP slot, newer boards are using PCI-Express
[07:10] <astro76> logreeval, the best video card you could get for your board would be like a nvidia 7600 gs, around $120 or so
[07:10] <teKnofreak> dug, the kernel you are trying to install needs a header which is not matching with what you have
[07:10] <Boones> logreeval but you already have RAM and a CPU?
[07:10] <logreeval> Boones and astro76 thanks :)
[07:10] <unique> this may sound stupid but in the kde interface where is my computer
[07:10] <logreeval> Boones: yes, i thought my board had integrated graphics, silly me ;)
[07:10] <leo_> astro76, a nvidia 7600 gs is 120??? omg! i need to get me one now! lol
[07:10] <teKnofreak> dug, check for the header version required for the kernel source you are trying to install
[07:11] <Boones> logreeval okay :) .. so try your graphics adapter and have fun ^^^
[07:11] <teKnofreak> unique, my computer as in / ?
[07:11] <dug> teKnofreak: I am not sure why my kernel is 2.6.20-16-generic and so are my headers
[07:11] <leo_rockw> astro76, i haven't been checking prices lately... last time i saw a card like that was like 250 haha
[07:11] <tumblewee1> so I'm either going to have to find a way to install GRUB to an NTFS partition, or I'm going to have to figure out a way to get NTLDR to load ubuntu
[07:11] <sanzanric> syslinux?
[07:11] <astro76> yeah everythings pci-e
[07:11] <astro76> now
[07:11] <logreeval> Boones: thanks for the help :) i cant wait to get this going
[07:11] <teKnofreak> dug, the error was in wacom-kernel-source not generic kernel
[07:11] <tumblewee1> seeing as windows is the os on my internal drive
[07:11] <Boones> logreeval you're welcome
[07:12] <Flannel> brad016: the leopard version?
[07:12] <logreeval> :)
[07:12] <logreeval> Boones: see ya later
[07:12] <leo_rockw> tumblewee1, i think i'm understanding your problem. one question: would grub on a floppy help there?
[07:12] <brad016> Flannel, yes
[07:12] <unique> to view my drives
[07:12] <teKnofreak> tumblewee1, grub on NTFS pasrtition ? install it on MBR
[07:12] <warbler> tumbleweel: if grub is on the plug in drive then ntldr should load when hd not plugged in
[07:12] <tumblewee1> hmmmm, I'm not sure, I don't really like booting from floppies, but I guess I could
[07:12] <brad016> Flannel, the one that is all Leopard-ish
[07:12] <Flannel> brad016: what is the leopard version?    I have bind9 that resolves my local names.  But nothing else; it can't lookup google.com, for example. "Recursion on" is in there, and it's been restarted.  What am I missing?
[07:14] <foo> Hm, when I try to start nfs-kernel-server... mountd fails to start.. but, I don't see anything in syslog/dmesg/messages about it failing ... any tips? Hm, I could strace it, I suppoe, last resort.
[07:14] <Boones> faileas , yeah a good USB-Stick is my friend ^^
[07:14] <Flannel> brad016: You'll have to check the AWN website.  We don't support it here (and obviously, none of us know the answer).  You might also try the forums
[07:14] <brad016> Flannel, thank\s
[07:14] <murtadashah> Hey guys: I get this annoying loud beep in UBUNTU occasionally (ie. when I hit backspace on terminal and it's at the front) how do I stop this/
[07:14] <WheelDweller> foo: Does IPTables play a role?
[07:14] <Bo1> jordan_u:is a new card i .buy from store
[07:15] <faileas> Boones: i don't use floppies except for bios and mbr repair. I think i got my workplace onto these awesome things called usb keys. FINALLY
[07:15] <tumblewee1> murtadashah: system -> preferences -> sound
[07:15] <Jordan_U> Bo1, Have you tried the nvidia-glx-new package?
[07:15] <tumblewee1> then click the system beep tab
[07:15] <NTTP> I have a really good question here concerning upgrades.
[07:15] <supamatt> mmm
[07:15] <WheelDweller> foo:  I'm running NFS here, too. It's pretty solid...
[07:15] <Bo1> jordan_u:nooo
[07:15] <foo> WheelDweller: I don't think so, how would I know ? What port is mountd on ?
[07:16] <foo> WheelDweller: I have too, for several years, on these same boxes, same setup ...
[07:16] <WheelDweller> foo: Do you have portmap installed?  :)
[07:16] <boola> i just acctidnetly remove my postgress install on /var/lib/postgres/7.4
[07:16] <boola> how can i redo this directory ?
[07:16] <foo> WheelDweller: yes, for years, I have.
[07:16] <WheelDweller> foo: (I had to ask....)
[07:16] <WheelDweller> foo: What's rpcinfo -p tell ya?
[07:16] <foo> WheelDweller: np... I am stumped.
[07:17] <lgc_> Flannel, Jordan_U ,how can I reconfigure my startup at the point where it looks for RAIDs? I remember it was the default option during the Feisty install, but it is the wrong one in my case and it keeps looking for it.
[07:17] <foo> WheelDweller: -su: rcpinfo: command not found
[07:17] <Jordan_U> Bo1, install nvidia-glx-new with synaptic / apt and restart X :) ( make sure your xorg.conf is set to "nvidia" as the driver
[07:17] <tumblewee1> ok, so I should do a fixmbr from the repair console on the windows disk and use a GRUB floppy to boot from my external drive?
[07:17] <Bo1> jordan_u:how i do that
[07:17] <NTTP> Does anyone here have experience with server upgrades?
[07:17] <WheelDweller> foo: It should show something, even as non-root. Program number, version, protocol, port.
[07:18] <Boones> faileas i just use it for files and a repair-system, cause i use linux and windows
[07:18] <warbler> tumbleweel: error 21 is a device not found error - so moving grub to the plug in hd might be the solution
[07:18] <Jordan_U> !boot | lgc_ Hope this helps
[07:18] <ubotu> lgc_ Hope this helps: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[07:18] <foo> NTTP: Just ask your question
[07:18] <WheelDweller> foo: this might be an important part of the problem.
[07:18] <foo> WheelDweller: Program not found...
[07:18] <leo_rockw> tumblewee1, that was my suggestion. it will work. idk if it is the best solution but it works
[07:18] <Gaidin> ok no luck
[07:18] <foo> WheelDweller: I'll use apt-file, see where it's at
[07:18] <NTTP> Right before I went to Ubuntu Live, I decided to upgrade my edgy server to feisty. Yet when I go to log in it still says 6.10 on the screen.
[07:18] <leo_rockw> warbler, tumblewee1 can't boot from a usb device
[07:18] <faileas> Boones: took me 2-3 years to talk the boss into switching over. and it was kinda like... "OOH, FLOPPY DRIVE!"
[07:18] <tumblewee1> warbler: it is on the external HD, it's just installed on the internal drive's MBR
[07:18] <NTTP> and lsb_release -a says I am using Debian.
[07:19] <faileas> erm, "OOH THIS IS BETTER THAN A FLOPPY DRIVE" even ;p
[07:19] <Boones> faileas lol
[07:19] <warbler> bugger
[07:19] <tumblewee1> yeah
[07:19] <Jordan_U> Bo1, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" and choose "nvidia" when asked for the driver to use ( Do you know how to install packages with synaptic ? )
[07:19] <Gaidin> to be precises it is sde1 that i am trying to share a folder on
[07:19] <Gaidin> *precise
[07:19] <sacater> [sacater@neo ~] $ compiz --replace
[07:19] <sacater> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Can't load plugin 'ccp' because it is built for ABI version 20070708 and actual version is 20070824
[07:19] <tumblewee1> I'm not even sure why I'm getting this error, I didn't get any when doing the exact same thing on the exact same HD with my laptop
[07:19] <sacater> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Couldn't activate plugin 'ccp'
[07:19] <sacater> can anyone help me with this
[07:20] <warbler> tumbleweel: oldish comp?- nothing in bios to let you boot from the external
[07:20] <tumblewee1> nope
[07:20] <NTTP> I'm running 2.6.20-16-server
[07:20] <tumblewee1> it's from 2002
[07:20] <andrewfashion> hey everyone!
[07:20] <leo_rockw> hey andrewfashion
[07:20] <Irreducibilis> "Linux and all derivitives are copyright (C) Microsoft"
[07:20] <tumblewee1> no USB boot option
[07:20] <andrewfashion> anyone here have issues getting a higher resolution?
[07:20] <Irreducibilis> Wtf.
[07:20] <andrewfashion> i have a 30" cinema display, and having issues getting the correct resolution, i am trying to install the Nvidia drivers, and keep getting a LIBC header error message
[07:20] <ghosTM55> hello alls
[07:21] <NTTP> Irreducibilis: How many M$ft programmers does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
[07:21] <Irreducibilis> NTTP: ?
[07:21] <tumblewee1> I opened my menu.1st in gedit, nothing seems to be amiss
[07:21] <NTTP> None - they just declare darkness a M$ft standard.
[07:21] <tumblewee1> I don't know what the trouble is
[07:21] <Ashfire908> can multiple ubuntu installations share the same swap partition? (i don't mean at the same time of course)
[07:21] <SeveredHead> andrewfashion: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new?
[07:21] <SeveredHead> (That may or may not be right for your card)
[07:21] <leo_rockw> NTTP, what's the ft in m$ft?
[07:21] <SeveredHead> Ashfire908: Sure as long as you put it in all their fstabs.
[07:22] <Flannel> !offtopic
[07:22] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:22] <Irreducibilis> I was wondering if I could run Ubuntu in 1920x1080
[07:22] <warbler> tumbleweel: & windows won't boot at all? - time to make a boot floppy
[07:22] <Bo1> jordan_u:xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[07:22] <Bo1>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070828132151
[07:22] <andrewfashion> ServeredHead: ill try that, ive been through so many docs, and stuff now
[07:22] <NTTP> m$ft = microsoft.
[07:22] <andrewfashion> lol
[07:22] <tumblewee1> well, I can't boot anything, because GRUB won't start
[07:22] <leo_rockw> NTTP, oh, gotcha, thx
[07:22] <Bo1> jordan_u:i go this message
[07:22] <Ashfire908> SeveredHead, isn't that a given?
[07:22] <Irreducibilis> Microsoft makes office software overly expen$ive
[07:22] <keelvarra> could anyone recomend a good 3d moddelling tool for linux?
[07:22] <tumblewee1> blender.
[07:22] <NTTP> blender
[07:22] <Irreducibilis> keelvarra: Maya
[07:22] <NTTP> Ack - lag
[07:23] <foo> blender
[07:23] <leo_rockw> blender + yafray
[07:23] <Jordan_U> Bo1, That is normal, Have you nvidia-glx-new installed from synaptic?
[07:23] <Sayers> Hello. How do I add my user to group
[07:23] <Bo1> i think how i check]
[07:23] <NTTP> any ideas with my upgrade issue?
[07:23] <Bo1> jordan_u:how i check
[07:23] <Irreducibilis> Possible newb question = Which is better, GRUB or LILO?
[07:23] <keelvarra> i tried blendler, and I really don't like it, I really like maya but I'm looking for a free solution
[07:23] <NTTP> GRUB
[07:23] <Jordan_U> Bo1, If you checked it and hit apply in synaptic then it is installed
[07:23] <Flannel> Irreducibilis: GRUB is more flexible (most of the time)
[07:24] <Irreducibilis> AH.
[07:24] <tumblewee1> my real problem is when I boot my computer, I get grub stage 1.5 loading, Error 21. Then it stalls, I can't load any OS, all of my drives are plugged in and menu.1st seems to be correct
[07:24] <Jordan_U> !better | Irreducibilis
[07:24] <ubotu> Irreducibilis: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[07:24] <leo_rockw> keelvarra, wings 3d? k-3d? but i never tried those
[07:24] <tumblewee1> I'm really not sure what the problem is at all
[07:25] <leo_rockw> keelvarra, i never tried maya. i tried 3dsm and lightwave and imho blender + yafray is as good as those 2
[07:25] <Bo1> jordan_u:i install nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx-legacy-dev
[07:25] <NTTP> tumblewee1: boot a live cd, mont your drive under /mnt , chroot into it and then do "sudo update-grub". Maybe that might help.
[07:25] <leo_rockw> keelvarra, really good fluid animation too
[07:25] <Jordan_U> Bo1, You don't want either of those, remove them both and install nvidia-glx-new
[07:25] <tumblewee1> which drive, the external, or my internal?
[07:25] <tumblewee1> I'm on the live CD right now
[07:25] <warbler> tumbleweel: the problem seems that grub is looking for the ubuntu os but your bios won't boot from usb
[07:25] <NTTP> tumblewee1: Which erver one you are trying to boot from.
[07:26] <tumblewee1> ok
[07:26] <keelvarra> leo_rockw: I just can't get used to the blender interface, i have given it an honest try and find it to be incrediblly hard compared to maya or max3d
[07:26] <warbler> tumbleweel: a boot floppy for windows will let you get into windows
[07:26] <Jordan_U> Bo1, Unless by new you didn't mean new technology but rather a very old card that you just bought?
[07:27] <keelvarra> does anyone know of a good 3d modeller that isn't blender?
[07:27] <tumblewee1> yeah, but I need to be able to get into ubuntu, or maybe both without a floppy
[07:27] <NTTP> Anyone have any luck with the p4m890 video chipset yet?
[07:27] <Jordan_U> !grub | tumblewee1
[07:27] <ubotu> tumblewee1: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:27] <Bo1> jordan_u:am installing  both of nvidia-glx-new
[07:27] <warbler> tumbleweel: has ubuntu ever booted
[07:27] <NTTP> I got OpenChrome to work, no love on opengl though.
[07:27] <leo_rockw> keelvarra, that is true. but i was coming from lightwave, so it felt really easy for me.
[07:27] <Irreducibilis> Is there a way to change the boot sound?
[07:28] <Jordan_U> Bo1, You don't need -dev, it doesn't hurt, but you only need -dev packages when you are compiling something from source
[07:28] <leo_rockw> keelvarra, i have a friend that's into opensource like i am and you can't move him from 3dsm
[07:28] <tumblewee1> no, ubuntu has never booted
[07:28] <Jordan_U> Irreducibilis, There is a way to change *everything*
[07:28] <Irreducibilis> Oh good.
[07:28] <tumblewee1> as soon as I rebooted from the live cd, I got grub error 21
[07:28] <leo_rockw> keelvarra, you can check in winehq.org how maya runs on wine
[07:28] <Irreducibilis> I want to change my friend's ubuntu boot sound to an annoying mp3 that goes on for a few minutes
[07:28] <dug> teKnofreak: how to I tell what kernel version it is looking for (i upgraded to from generic to server and still not working)
[07:28] <tumblewee1> also
[07:29] <phpcurious> hi, how do you do find files containing a specified string in bash?
[07:29] <warbler> tumbleweel: you can't boot from an external drive on your comp - time to find another way to have ubuntu
[07:29] <tumblewee1> hmmm
[07:29] <Jordan_U> NTTP, Don't make "jokes: like that in this channel
[07:29] <tumblewee1> can I use a floppy bootdisk?
[07:29] <NTTP> SORRY!
[07:29] <keelvarra> leo_rockw: maya is suppossed to run fine, I just don't have that kind of money right now
[07:29] <Bo1> jordan_u:when is done installing ill im u.
[07:29] <warbler> !install
[07:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[07:29] <tumblewee1> err, grub on a floppy
[07:29] <tumblewee1> because my internal drive is pretty small
[07:30] <Irreducibilis> That reminds me, can I boot ubuntu from a slave disk, completely separate from my master one with Windoze on it?
[07:30] <Jordan_U> tumblewee1, That is why I directed !grub at you :)
[07:30] <Irreducibilis> So I dont have to fuss with dual booting
[07:30] <tumblewee1> :P
[07:30] <leo_rockw> keelvarra, oh, i thought you already had it. well, i learned the basics of blender in one week. if you follow the wiki it isn't very hard (particularly since you already know a lot of 3d stuff coming from maya)
[07:30] <warbler> tumbleweel: your comp won't find the usb hd - that's not a option
[07:30] <MTecknology> My stylus doesn't work, hibernate doesn't work, and sleep doesn't work. My stylus isn't going to work... can anybody help me with the other part?
[07:30] <tumblewee1> hmmm
[07:31] <warbler> tumbleweel: can you put another hd in the comp?
[07:31] <Jordan_U> !doesn't work | MTecknology
[07:31] <ubotu> MTecknology: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[07:31] <tumblewee1> noe, there isn't another slot
[07:31] <phpcurious> can i install ubuntu using a virtual cd drive software?
[07:31] <keelvarra> leo_rockw: well that gives me some hope, I guess I'll give it another shot, do you know of good resources for it?
[07:31] <warbler> !install
[07:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[07:31] <teKnofreak> dug, check the package info
[07:31] <h> can anyone help me install flash player?
[07:31] <Jordan_U> phpcurious, No, you need to boot from the CD
[07:31] <ari_stress> !virtualbox
[07:31] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[07:31] <warbler> !install|tumbleweel
[07:31] <ubotu> tumbleweel: please see above
[07:31] <NTTP> phpcurious: Wouldn't that mean that  you're mounting the ISO as something? If so wouldn't you need to be running an OS first?
[07:32] <Jordan_U> phpcurious, You can install Ubuntu from windows though if that is what you want to do
[07:32] <leo_rockw> keelvarra, this one is pretty good: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[07:32] <MTecknology> Jordan_U, What I mean is i get just a black screen when it's resuming
[07:32] <tumblewee1> I'm going to the PC shop tommorow, so maybe I can buy a 5.5" to 3.5" drive bay adaptor and buy a 40GB HD to install Ubuntu on
[07:32] <dug> teKnofreak: not sure how to check the pkg info
[07:32] <tumblewee1> seeing as I have a free 5.5" bay
[07:32] <leo_rockw> keelvarra, wiki.blender.org you can check that too
[07:33] <mike__> how do i remove an old kernel?
[07:33] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, try installing uswsusp and then run "sudo s2ram"
[07:33] <mike__> i have .15 and 16 installed
[07:33] <h> how does one get youtube to work/ install flashplayer????
[07:33] <mike__> only need .16
[07:33] <NTTP> why after an upgrade to feisty 7.04 would a system say that it was 6.10?
[07:33] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, That will use a different method to suspend
[07:33] <leo_rockw> keelvarra, unlike lightwave, there are a LOT of tutorials for blender (it being opensource and everything)
[07:33] <tumblewee1> mike_ : first go into a terminal
[07:33] <mike__> there
[07:33] <tumblewee1> ok
[07:33] <tumblewee1> sudo gedit
[07:33] <Flannel> mike__: just remove it in whatever package manager you prefer.
[07:33] <MTecknology> Jordan_U, I'll try that - thanks
[07:33] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, If you want to hybernate then "sudo s2disk"
[07:33] <warbler> tumbleweel: k
[07:33] <Flannel> tumblewee1: no. the kernel will come back.
[07:33] <leo_rockw> keelvarra, i was still on windoze when i switched to blender cuz it has a better community. a lot of tutorials and people to help you
[07:34] <tumblewee1> oh
[07:34] <Flannel> mike__: But, it's a good idea to keep two kernels at least.
[07:34] <tumblewee1> that's what I did
[07:34] <tumblewee1> :/
[07:34] <mike__> so i need both?
[07:34] <Flannel> mike__: One that is 'testing' and one that is known good.
[07:34] <MTecknology> Jordan_U, Will those commands execure the hubernation?
[07:34] <byonix> hi, i succesfully install windows xp in my vmware server,, and it took lots of my space, how do i resize (make larger) my ubuntu partition, i have installed gnome partition editor, but it seems doesn't work
[07:34] <mike__> grub is so ugly like that
[07:34] <Flannel> mike__: need no.
[07:34] <Irreducibilis> I wonder how the average person affords Maya, its $7000...
[07:34] <leo_rockw> keelvarra, just make sure you install yafray. blender is not as powerful without it
[07:34] <Flannel> tumblewee1: next time you upgrade your kernel, you'll have all your old ones
[07:34] <h> does anyone know how i can get professional support /dont mind paying????
[07:34] <tumblewee1> I know
[07:34] <leo_rockw> Irreducibilis, there are reduced prices for students
[07:34] <tumblewee1> but I leave them in case I need them later
[07:34] <NTTP> Irreducibilis: The average person gets it from other places.
[07:34] <tumblewee1> for testing
[07:34] <WheelDweller> FINALLY.    Weird.
[07:34] <Flannel> tumblewee1: remove your old kernel packages, that'll remove them.
[07:34] <tumblewee1> oh, ok
[07:34] <tumblewee1> stupid me
[07:35] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, Yes
[07:35] <unique> i just switched to kde now i cant see my second harddrive what should i do?
[07:35] <tumblewee1> I just removed them from the grub menu
[07:35] <tumblewee1> :P
[07:35] <byonix> hi, i succesfully install windows xp in my vmware server,, and it took lots of my space, how do i resize (make larger) my ubuntu partition, i have installed gnome partition editor, but it seems doesn't work
[07:35] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, Sorry, I should have been more clear about that
[07:35] <NTTP> unique: is it mounted?
[07:35] <dug> teKnofreak: I dont even need the wacom stuff can I just remove it?
[07:35] <NTTP> byonix: How large did you make the virtual drive?
[07:35] <unique> if i mount it will it erase my data?
[07:35] <tumblewee1> alright
[07:35] <WheelDweller> DNS Meta-question: I have a bind9 box that serves internal name lookups fine...but it won't recurse to Google.com and others.  What am I missing?  I have "recursion on" in there...
[07:35] <MTecknology> Jordan_U, if that works how would I modify my system to use that?
[07:35] <dug> teKnofreak: nor do I need the cpad stuff
[07:36] <leo_rockw> unique, mounting is like loading
[07:36] <tumblewee1> thanks guys, I'll buy another internal HD tomorrow and install Ubuntu on that, you guys have been loads of help
[07:36] <Flannel> byonix: you can only change unmounted partitions, so you'll need to boot to a liveCD
[07:36] <NTTP> unique: you can mount it read only if you want to prevent that. What format is it in?
[07:36] <gustavo> i know that its ubuntu related channel, but can someone help me with amavis + spamassasin integration?
[07:36] <byonix> NTTP, just 5 GB, after that i only have 4 GB in ubuntu partition
[07:36] <unique> its ntfs
[07:36] <unique> 320 gig
[07:37] <unique> it worked in the gnome
[07:37] <tumblewee1> I'll just do fixmbr in the windows CD repair console and boot back into windows until I buy my new drive
[07:37] <NTTP> unique: NTFS support under Linux is buggy at best. I would not reccoment using an NTFS drive with Ubintu.
[07:37] <tumblewee1> later
[07:37] <h> do i exist?
[07:37] <byonix> Flannel, i have booted with Kubuntu live cd and use Qtparted, it didn't work either
[07:37] <Flannel> h: you do
[07:37] <lgc_> Jordan_U, thanks, but seemingly, it's not what I'm looking for. I just want to reconfigure the right file so RAIDs are not searched for.
[07:37] <leo_rockw> h, are you asking in a phylosofical level?
[07:37] <NTTP> h: yeah, you're right here on my keyboard.
[07:37] <unique> any idea to get it working to view files?
[07:37] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, http://blog.paulbetts.org/index.php/2007/02/11/fixing-software-suspend-hibernate-with-uswsusp-in-ubuntu-feisty-and-edgy/
[07:37] <Flannel> !flash | h
[07:37] <ubotu> h: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:38] <Irreducibilis> !exist
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <Flannel> h: have you tried the instructions on that page?
[07:38] <h> thanks flannel...believe it or not just that helps
[07:38] <Irreducibilis> ubotu's link is dead
[07:38] <Flannel> h: Your name is hard to search for.  It's impossible (without scrolling and checking manually) to find out what you've been asking.
[07:38] <MTecknology> Jordan_U, thanks much
[07:38] <Flannel> h: I suggest you change it to something more unique
[07:38] <NTTP> h: original - yet not unique.
[07:38] <MTecknology> Jordan_U, that gave me a 500 error
[07:38] <sauvin> Unique, what are you trying to do?
[07:38] <h> ok
[07:39] <Bo1> jordan_u:am done
[07:39] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, np, read the comments, there are other proposed solutions, and some drawbacks to the one given
[07:39] <unique> access the drive
[07:39] <sauvin> Access what drive?
[07:39] <dug> I hate that I have to reinstall ubuntu because I am getting these errors ...  I was hoping ubuntu was better than fedora...
[07:39] <leo_rockw> unique, is it ntfs, ext2, ext3, fat?
[07:39] <MTecknology> Jordan_U, you mean the comments ppl said here?
[07:39] <unique> ntfs
[07:39] <Jordan_U> Bo1, OK, restart X and hopefully it will work
[07:39] <Gaidin> ok i am trying to share a folder on my external hard drive (sde1) to a windows machine but though it shows up the windows computer cannot access it (i want rw) any ideas on how to fix?
[07:39] <unique> im not running the os on it
[07:39] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, Yes
[07:39] <NTTP> unique: do you just need files off it or are you planning on working with the drive under linux?
[07:39] <sauvin> unique, is this drive usb?
[07:39] <shasbot> what would be a simple way for me to fetch the contents of a folder on a windows machine from my ubuntu box?
[07:39] <unique> its secondary
[07:39] <MTecknology> Jordan_U, i suppose i shoulda paid more attention
[07:40] <unique> sata
[07:40] <sauvin> Oh... I don't know jack about sata :(
[07:40] <unique> just get files off it
[07:40] <Flannel> !scp | shasbot
[07:40] <sauvin> Does fdisk -l list it?
[07:40] <ubotu> shasbot: SCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/
[07:40] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, It's not a problem, just that the files might get replaced on a package update
[07:40] <unique> i can see the cd drives
[07:40] <byonix> !vmwareserver
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmwareserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <shasbot> thanks Flannel, i'll check that out
[07:40] <sauvin> unique, does an fdisk -l see your drive?
[07:41] <unique> if i go to the gnome interface i can view the hd
[07:41] <sauvin> Oh?
[07:41] <sauvin> But you can't navigate into it?
[07:41] <Bo1> jordan_u:howi restart x
[07:41] <MTecknology> Jordan_U, aight - i'll try what you said when i go to sleep tonight and if it works I'll come back to finish a solution
[07:41] <MTecknology> thanks
[07:41] <byonix> Flannel, NTTP , anyone about resizing ubuntu partition with Gnome partition editor?
[07:41] <unique>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[07:41] <unique> /dev/sdc1               1       15740     4029424    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[07:41] <Jordan_U> Bo1, Close all important apps and press ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:41] <NTTP> unique: How to mount NTFS partitions with write support ; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14248
[07:42] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, np
[07:42] <leo_rockw> unique, if you can see your partition from gnome it means it is mounted. just use konqueror the way you use nautilus
[07:42] <NTTP> byonix: is that the virtual drive you're running Ubuntu in?
[07:42] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | unique
[07:42] <ubotu> unique: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:42] <scratchii> hey anyone knows of a mediawiki ripper ? i heard there was something like that running under fuse. -and yeah i checked the mediawiki channel, no one is there-
[07:43] <byonix> NTTP, no, i install vmwareserver in ubuntu, then i install xp in my vmwareserver
[07:43] <lildeb> hey any know how to possibly help me with a router problem?
[07:44] <Jordan_U> scratchii, http://wikipediafs.sourceforge.net/
[07:44] <NTTP> byonix: I see, you're running xp as the guest under a host linux.
[07:44] <NTTP> lildeb: What's up?
[07:44] <scratchii> Jordan_U ty :)
[07:44] <lildeb> i just bout a linksys wired router and it comes with a setup wizard disk
[07:44] <NTTP> lildeb: throw it away!
[07:44] <Flannel> byonix: you need to use gparted from a liveCD
[07:44] <Jordan_U> scratchii, np :)
[07:44] <keelvarra> leo_rockw: thanks for the help, about to finish the download
[07:44] <lildeb> haha that bad eh?
[07:45] <NTTP> lildeb: It's useless - even for xp