[03:24] <WebLOCH> cafuego, nohup?  wassat boss?
[03:24] <cafuego> man nohup :-)
[03:24] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, got all the others installed i can't seem to find the libfasttrack
[03:24] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, try libfasttrack-gift
[03:24] <M_Cheevy> zblach: quicktime is apples (.mov) video format.... many of the preview clips on the net used it...
[03:24] <ElitePete> k
[03:24] <cafuego> WebLOCH: 'nohup ./myapp &'  'exit'
[03:24] <zblach> M_Cheevy, rightright, which plugins am I needing?
[03:25] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, nope.
[03:25] <paolob> cafuego: I see you are spanish-hablante: could you went to #edubutu-es?
[03:25] <M_Cheevy> zblach: I take it you're on marillat?
[03:25] <WebLOCH> cafuego, sounds cool, cheers :D
[03:25] <zblach> marillat?
[03:25] <cafuego> paolob: You need glasses.
[03:25] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, hmm whats the last entry if you search for "apt-cache search gift"
[03:25] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, when i search for it, my terminal just opens a new line..
[03:25] <M_Cheevy> zblach: do a google search on 'w32codecs' and 'ubuntu' and 'howto'
[03:25] <zblach> got those
[03:25] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, try the above and give me the last line
[03:26] <UbuntuNewbee> mustard5: hi mustard.
[03:26] <ElitePete> pete@LinuxBox:~$ apt-cache search libfasttrack-gift
[03:26] <ElitePete> pete@LinuxBox:~$
[03:26] <john_> Hey WebLOCH should we make fun of UbuntuNewbee, just like you did me?  Wouldn't that be fun.......jackass
[03:26] <paolob> cafuego: well, so I must put CONFIG_HIGHME6M4G=y (with the 6), is it true?
[03:26] <UbuntuNewbee> mustard5: i ended up going to Staples and purchasing a new sound card.
[03:26] <zblach> the new sony bravia ad has me hypnotised
[03:26] <cafuego> paolob: I only speak dutch, english, some german and a bit of french.
[03:26] <M_Cheevy> zblach: and where did you go to get them?
[03:26] <UbuntuNewbee> mustard5: and that didn't work either.
[03:26] <zblach> the ubuntu restricted formats help page link
[03:26] <UbuntuNewbee> mustard5: so i swapped the sound card with my network card.
[03:26] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, libopenft-gift - giFT plugin for the OpenFT network
[03:26] <UbuntuNewbee> mustard5: and both seemed to work.
[03:26] <M_Cheevy> zblach: okay, same place should have the quicktime stuff
[03:26] <cafuego> paolob: No, just check whether that is set. If not, you may need to build a custom kernel with HIGHMEM set to 64G instead of 4G.
[03:26] <UbuntuNewbee> mustard5: is mustard here?
[03:26] <WebLOCH> john_, i didnt make fun of you, I gave you an answer based on the modicum of information you gave me, if you want to avoid prejudice then try harder.
[03:27] <UbuntuNewbee> LOL
[03:27] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, grab that, but thats not the one
[03:27] <uber_spaced> roflmaowtfbbq
[03:27] <ElitePete> kk.
[03:27] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, have you ever used the apt update function?
[03:27] <oxez> anyone have success with kernel 2.6.14-nitro and nvidia drivers?
[03:27] <ElitePete> WebLOCH,  i believe so..?
[03:27] <cafuego> -nitro?
[03:27] <WebLOCH> ElitePete,  apt-get update   will update your repo listings
[03:27] <oxez> cafuego: yea, the nitro patchset for kernel
[03:27] <paolob> cafuego: isn't a HIGHMEM set to 4G enough?
[03:28] <UbuntuNewbee> did i miss something?
[03:28] <UbuntuNewbee> john is pretty mad, huh?
[03:28] <ElitePete> k done
[03:28] <UbuntuNewbee> anyway, i think mustard5 isn't around :(
[03:28] <cafuego> paolob: I'm not sure, so trying would be the first step on the way to a solution.
[03:28] <zblach> another question. what format are the gnome screen savers?
[03:28] <yubimusubi> paolob: 64bit can support a lot of RAM
[03:28] <UbuntuNewbee> can someone help me get my sound card working?
[03:29] <crimsun> UbuntuNewbee: what do you have?
[03:29] <cafuego> paolob: The thing is, setting it to 1G means it can _not_ detect all of 1GB of ram.
[03:29] <Vastrup> hi can anyone help me, i'm a first time ubuntu/linux user and i'm stuck with a possible hardware issue, when trying to install ubuntu my keyboad wount respond...
[03:29] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbee: he's still in channel by my names list
[03:29] <cafuego> paolob: So perhaps the same is true for 4GB.
[03:29] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, ok done.
[03:29] <cafuego> paolob: I can check if you send me 2 sticks iof 2GB DDR400 ram ;-)
[03:29] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbee: let's try that again... mustard5 still shows up in my channel names list
[03:29] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, do the search again and see if the plugin comes up
[03:30] <paolob> cafuego: sorry, it's a ddr2!
[03:30] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, i did what am i looking for again?
[03:30] <nickrud> UbuntuNewbee, by the way, crimsun is the maestro of sound: don't let him get way :)
[03:30] <paolob> cafuego: they are 4 ddr2 1GB
[03:30] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, libfasttrack-gift - giFT plugin for the peer to peer network FastTrack
[03:30] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbee: what's the cardtype?
[03:31] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, this is what i get pete@LinuxBox:~$ apt-cache search libfasttrack-gift
[03:31] <ElitePete> pete@LinuxBox:~$
[03:31] <UbuntuNewbee> Crimsun: Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI CT4810
[03:31] <WebLOCH> okay ElitePete you used pastebin before?
[03:31] <ElitePete> nope.
[03:31] <HymnToLife> !pastebin
[03:31] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:31] <zblach> !screensaver
[03:31] <ubotu> zblach: Not a clue
[03:31] <zblach> !screensavers
[03:31] <ubotu> zblach: I don't know
[03:31] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbee: sorry, I've worked with the earlier and later SB cards, just not that one...
[03:32] <ElitePete> ok, what do i do with pastebin
[03:32] <paolob> cafuego: ok, thank you!"
[03:32] <nutter426> hiya, dunno if anyone is still here from when i was having trouble loading synaptic
[03:32] <yubimusubi> WebLOCH: If you still wanna see my E17 screenshots (sorry it took so long...ubuntu download is hogging my http bandwidth) then here they are http://img205.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=gentoolotsamodules9af.jpg ...BTW, it's a lot prettier when you actually USE it...pictures don't say enough
[03:32] <HymnToLife> I should get going too...
[03:32] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, you know how to update your repositories?
[03:32] <Vastrup> hi can anyone help me, i'm a first time ubuntu/linux user and i'm stuck with a possible hardware issue, when trying to install ubuntu my keyboad wount respond... and after searching on google i didn't find a solution, so if you got time plz pm
[03:32] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, no.
[03:32] <WebLOCH> yubimusubi, cool ty
[03:32] <czr> hmm, when I asked before about getting pdf out of ascii, it was said that gedit has pdf-output (which it has)
[03:32] <UbuntuNewbee> hmm, doing an lsmod shows modules loaded for it
[03:32] <yubimusubi> WebLOCH: Yea
[03:33] <czr> however, it keeps putting out my stuff in Letter-format, not A4, whatever I do
[03:33] <WebLOCH> ElitePete okay, you need to open a terminal and do....  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:33] <yubimusubi> Anyway, I have to waltz on down to the comic book shop...
[03:33] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbee: which module was installed for it? that could be key
[03:33] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, ok.
[03:33] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, this will be a list of your repositories
[03:33] <HymnToLife> Vastrup > which kind of keyboard is it ?
[03:33] <nutter426> my pressed breezy CD arrived today, so i just reinstalled, formatting the root and swap partition, and leaving the /home partition intact, and I still get the child 1 status password error
[03:33] <benplaut> is wireless gamepad support included by default in breezy?
[03:33] <HymnToLife> (USB, PS/2, serial or what ?)
[03:33] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, ok it's open
[03:33] <UbuntuNewbee> and when ubuntu booted, i'm pretty sure i heard a sound.
[03:33] <Vastrup> and m$ series 4000 have tried both usb and ps/2
[03:33] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, comment out (using #) all the lines that do not begin with #
[03:34] <ElitePete> ok..
[03:34] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, then go here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5805 and copy and paste those three lines in
[03:34] <UbuntuNewbee> M_Cheevy:  i think module: snd_ens1371
[03:34] <zaphar_ps> is there a problem with the ubuntu repositories?
[03:34] <nickrud> czr, try setting /etc/papersize to letter if it isn't already.
[03:34] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, remove the 00X at the beginning of each one
[03:34] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, ok.
[03:34] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbee: that looks like the right module... was concerned it might have mis-identified the card...
[03:34] <zaphar_ps> I can't update my package lists or download packages
[03:34] <oxez> anyone have success with kernel 2.6.14-nitro and nvidia drivers? I get an error about it cannot insert the "nvidia.ko" module
[03:34] <czr> nickrud, it's already a4
[03:35] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, at least two of these you already had, the last one I have uncommented because it contains more packages for apt
[03:35] <Vastrup> i have also tried with four different cd's burn with different speed, don't know if it makes any different...
[03:35] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, i can paste anywhere in file?
[03:35] <UbuntuNewbee> M_Cheevy: may it be a gnome thing?
[03:35] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, whenever you edit sources.list you must do an   apt-get update  right after
[03:35] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbee: what exactly is/is not happening?
[03:35] <bulio> how do I enable samba web interface?
[03:35] <Jormundgand> This is really infuriating.
[03:35] <Jormundgand> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=578101&postcount=30
[03:35] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, yes as long as you dont interfere with the commented out lines
[03:35] <bulio> wont let me use admin priveledges
[03:35] <WebLOCH> yubimusubi|away, its quite nice
[03:35] <UbuntuNewbee> the volume control has a red "X" on it.
[03:36] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, ok done. it's updating
[03:36] <Jormundgand> I've fixed my problems with the Sound dialog box by disabling the onboard sound via the BIOS, but Firefox still freezes.
[03:36] <WebLOCH> okay
[03:36] <WebLOCH> Once its updated
[03:36] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, ok it's done.
[03:36] <WebLOCH> apt-cache search gift
[03:36] <UbuntuNewbee> M_Cheevy: the volume control has a red "X" on it.
[03:36] <bulio> anyone?
[03:36] <WebLOCH> and the last line by now, will hopefully be the same as mine
[03:36] <M_Cheevy> Ubuntu: and you're in a "fresh", "straight" install of Ubuntu
[03:36] <emrysk> How does one use a Kodak photo dock under Linux?  I'm just trying to print some JPGs to it.
[03:36] <UbuntuNewbee> M_Cheevy: yes sir.
[03:36] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, i still don't see the fasttrack one :\
[03:36] <WebLOCH> emrysk, if you attach it via USB and turn it on, theres a good chance it will be mounted
[03:37] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, thats odd, those are the only three repos i have enabled
[03:37] <ElitePete> :-(
[03:37] <UbuntuNewbee> M_Cheevy: when i double click on volume control, it says " No volume control elements and/or devices found.
[03:37] <zblach> are mplayer and totem the same thing?
[03:37] <ElitePete> zblach,  no.
[03:37] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbee: (damn, wish I had the desktop up.. but still a few hours to go)... Under the System menu, Preferences, is a sound tool, check there too see if sounds are "enabled"
[03:37] <emrysk> WebLOCH: I'm trying to actually print photos in the home directory to it.
[03:37] <bulio> how do I enable samba web interface?
[03:37] <bulio> wont let me use admin priveledges
[03:37] <zaphar_ps> why can't I update my package lists?
[03:37] <zblach> ElitePete, plugins for firefox, i mean
[03:38] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, dunno what to do :-(
[03:38] <WebLOCH> emrysk, did the dock mount itself ?
[03:38] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, nor do i, lets have a google for a deb
[03:38] <butcherbird> zaphar_ps, 98% chance something is mispelled in sources.list
[03:38] <zaphar_ps> worked yesterday
[03:38] <zaphar_ps> and the day before
[03:38] <UbuntuNewbee> M_Cheevy: where it says "Default Sound Card", it is a drop down, and the drop down is blank.
[03:38] <emrysk> WebLOCH: The camera filesystem mounts when dropped into the dock.
[03:38] <zaphar_ps> haven't changed it at all
[03:39] <emrysk> WebLOCH: This is one of those photo printer/docks.  (I'm playing the remote support game.)
[03:39] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbie: is there an "Administrator Mode" button?
[03:39] <zaphar_ps> butcherbird: is there some reason why the addresses would have changed?
[03:39] <vilefridge> Hi, I'm wondering where the -startup programs- configuration file is located?
[03:39] <WebLOCH> emrysk, ahh dude, the more proprietary it gets the worse it gets
[03:39] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, try adding this to the sources list    deb http://hal.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de/debian/ gift/
[03:39] <emrysk> WebLOCH: The poor woman's screwed?
[03:39] <dooglus> vilefridge: ~/.gnome2/session ?
[03:40] <ElitePete> k web
[03:40] <nutter426> anyone know anything about password errors for system admin?
[03:40] <UbuntuNewbee> M_Cheevy: I don't see anything that says "Administrative Mode" or anything that says administrative.
[03:40] <ElitePete> web whats the cmd to open sources?
[03:40] <WebLOCH> emrysk, maybe not, but put it this way, I wouldnt like to be helping her.  If you move the images to the dock, you should be able to print using the button on the dock itself right?
[03:40] <butcherbird> zaphar_ps, you can ping out to websites on that machine?
[03:40] <UbuntuNewbee> M_Cheevy: there is a "Device Manager" under the Administration Menu.
[03:40] <WebLOCH> ElitePete,   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:40] <zaphar_ps> yes
[03:40] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbee: fraid without the desktop going, I can't remember how I got it working on my system so I can't lead ya... personally, I cheated, I got in as root
[03:40] <ElitePete> WebLOCH,  k sec thx
[03:40] <zaphar_ps> I can even hit the addresses in the browser
[03:41] <emrysk> WebLOCH: Yeah.  I was hoping there was a nicer solution, but I guess she'll be using yet another Linux workaround.
[03:41] <butcherbird> zaphar_ps, unless u have some unusual repo in there..
[03:41] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbee: that being said, doing that might have been why I'm now doing a reinstall ;)
[03:41] <zaphar_ps> just the security and breezy updates repo's
[03:41] <Villa> hi
[03:41] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, no probs, SUDO for Super User DO,   gedit for launch Gnome EDIT, and the  last part is the path to the file that holds the list
[03:41] <PorcupineTree> hi
[03:41] <nutter426> another quick question..... if i do a quick install, which doesn't allow the user to set a root password, is there a way i can set it so i can log in to a terminal as root
[03:41] <nutter426> ?
[03:41] <WebLOCH> emrysk, well mate there might be a proper solution, but i dont know of it
[03:42] <UbuntuNewbee> i can shell to root
[03:42] <nickrud> zaphar_ps, how about posting the errors from apt-get update to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:42] <vilefridge> dooglus: thanks!! :D
[03:42] <xterra99> can anyone else get to www.gnome-look.org??
[03:42] <WebLOCH> emrysk, YAWX!  Yet Another Workaround for Linux
[03:42] <secureboot> is there any sort of debootstrap for ubuntu?
[03:42] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, k done
[03:42] <ElitePete> got it!
[03:42] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, update
[03:42] <emrysk> WebLOCH: hehe.  Thanks, man.  :-)
[03:42] <UbuntuNewbee> M_Cheevy: I can shell to root.
[03:42] <PorcupineTree> Anyone using dapper yet?
[03:42] <WebLOCH> good stuff
[03:42] <dooglus> vilefridge: it's a weird format, that file.  I wouldn't recommend editing it.
[03:43] <ElitePete> k installed.
[03:43] <ElitePete> how do i use this baby now? :-)
[03:43] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbee: yes you can, I just don't know if you should... basically, the approach I'd take is to look at the device manager and see if gnome can see your device, then check the system preferences and settings to see if it's enabled.  One last question, you aren't using a set of digital speakers are you?
[03:43] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, my advice would be to remove that line you added to the repos and update again now, to remove it.  The reason i say this is because its completely separate to the repos maintained by ubuntu folk, so it may end up containing things that will break your install of ubuntu.
[03:43] <zaphar_ps> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5806
[03:43] <vilefridge> dooglus: actually mine turned out to be ~/.fluxbox/startup which seems to make sense.  The ~/.gnome/sessions/ was an excellent hint =)
[03:43] <zaphar_ps> there are the error messages
[03:43] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, ok.
[03:44] <UbuntuNewbee> M_Cheevy: no diggy speakers here
[03:44] <zaphar_ps> I figured maybe something was wrong with the repositories
[03:44] <zaphar_ps> but if no one else is having trouble maybe it's me?
[03:44] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, how do i run this program?
[03:44] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbee: damn, that might have made it easier :)
[03:44] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, for now, you can open two terminals, in one type 'giftd' and it will probably just hold, once thats done ignore it and move to the other terminal, and type 'giFTcurs' remember case sensitivity
[03:44] <dooglus> vilefridge: as I remember it the fluxbox session file is a lot nicer to edit :)
[03:44] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbee: just take that approach and you should be on the right path
[03:45] <vilefridge> dooglus: :) thanks again!
[03:45] <Jormundgand> God. Sound in Linux is still so horrific. Here's my situation: I'm getting no sound from Firefox despite my efforts. I've installed ALSA and turned off ESD, I've installed the package alsa-oss and changed the value of FIREFOX_DSP to both "alsa" and "aoss", neither of which got Firefox to actually play anything.
[03:45] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, says i need to config it
[03:45] <WebLOCH> ahh right
[03:45] <oxez> anyone have success with kernel 2.6.14-nitro and nvidia drivers? I get an error about it cannot insert the "nvidia.ko" module
[03:45] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, did it bring up the config pages?
[03:45] <nickrud> zaphar_ps, remove the slashes between breezy main breezy restricted, etc
[03:45] <UbuntuNewbee> M_Cheevy:  thank you cheevy
[03:46] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, i typed gift-config it's open now, what do i say yes to etc?
[03:46] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbee: when the practice fails, fall back on the theory ;)
[03:46] <WebLOCH> ElitePete I cant remember im going to have to check on google, or I can VNC in and go thru it with you
[03:46] <ElitePete> webloch ok, i have vnc setup
[03:46] <secureboot> i'm trying to debootstrap an ubuntu system on my debian box - is there a debootstrap source for ubuntu i can build and run?
[03:46] <ElitePete> ill msg you my ip
[03:46] <secureboot> i tried to grab one, and it only had debian targets
[03:47] <nickrud> zaphar_ps, arg, put up your sources.list as well
[03:47] <zaphar_ps> nickrud: slashes?
[03:47] <zaphar_ps> gettin it
[03:47] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, what do i need to do anything?
[03:47] <Aphix> if I put a *.php file in say, cron.hourly, will it be run each hour?
[03:47] <nickrud> zaphar_ps, arg :)
[03:47] <M_Cheevy> secureboot: you'll need to change your /etc/apt/sources.list to point at ubuntu repositories
[03:47] <WebLOCH> ElitePete you need to give me your IP address, and a password to connect with, in a private message
[03:48] <Aphix> AHHH!!? KP, whuddu[
[03:48] <Aphix> lawl stoooooop
[03:48] <brenner> secureboot: i can't see anything here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/  so most likely the answer is no.
[03:48] <bluefoxicy> Hey
[03:48] <Aphix> Will the cron folders run php files?
[03:48] <M_Cheevy> secureboot: or "debootstrap breezy <target partition> <ubuntu repository>"
[03:48] <brenner> heh. or maybe not.
[03:48] <bluefoxicy> Canonical, LTD is distributing Ubuntu CDs over ShipIt free right?
[03:48] <bluefoxicy> But they take an ungodly amount of time to get out
[03:48] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, do you see my messages?
[03:48] <nickrud> secureboot, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28debootstrap%29#preview
[03:48] <M_Cheevy> brenner: had to do a debootstrap install myself ;)
[03:49] <Squee-D> is there any way of finding out what module a device is relying on? specifically my wan card
[03:49] <brenner> M_Cheevy: righto.  :)
[03:49] <bluefoxicy> Would it be plausible for Canonical to allow free, 2 week, 1 week, and next day delivery?
[03:49] <Squee-D> sorry wireless card
[03:49] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, nope cant see any
[03:49] <zaphar_ps> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5807
[03:49] <M_Cheevy> brenner: did mine from the livecd though
[03:49] <zaphar_ps> theres my sources list
[03:49] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, i opend the dialogue window
[03:49] <bluefoxicy> i.e. the shipping would be charged for, plus a service fee for letting you get them faster
[03:49] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, yeah that doesnt seem to be working these days :P
[03:49] <bluefoxicy> which becomes profit.
[03:49] <WebLOCH> ElitePete, try /pm
[03:49] <TraceGreen> M_Cheevy, you can use lspci to check the type of your card.
[03:49] <bluefoxicy> It'd be like donatin'
[03:49] <WebLOCH> ElitePete,  /pm WebLOCH message
[03:49] <ElitePete> i need to log in
[03:50] <ElitePete> one moment.
[03:50] <WebLOCH> ahh haha
[03:50] <ElitePete> kk
[03:50] <Aven> LOoooooooooooool
[03:50] <ElitePete> WebLOCH, see the window now?
[03:50] <nickrud> zaphar_ps, remove the slash following ubuntu on each line, like so: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[03:50] <PorcupineTree> Anyone here upgrade to dapper?
[03:51] <M_Cheevy> TraceGreen: I forgot that one, use'd it to get my port address for my xconfig a few days ago... didn't think to use it in the context of sound to help out UbuntuNewbie though
[03:51] <joe_> hello
[03:51] <joe_> can anyone help me
[03:51] <xterra99> can any get to www.gnome-look.org/  is does'nt do anything...no error message nothing
[03:51] <TraceGreen> M_Cheevy,  i don't know what you mean, but if you want to know which module should use to driver your card. you may use lspci
[03:52] <joe_> hello?
[03:52] <aTypical> joe_, ask and if someone knows they'll answer.
[03:52] <joe_> ok
[03:52] <brenner> xterra99: dead for me too
[03:52] <TraceGreen> M_Cheevy, lspci may tell you the type of your card: for example : 0000:02:05.0 Ethernet controller
[03:52] <joe_> i can't edit my repositories in synaptic. i'm using breezy
[03:52] <M_Cheevy> speaking of, TraceGreen, during the X install, the dialogue defaults to PCI:1:5:0, but I thought I read that AGP:1:5:0 was also valid, is there a performance boost to be gained either way?
[03:52] <zaphar_ps> nickrud: still no go
[03:53] <aTypical> joe_, do you receive an error when you try to edit them?
[03:53] <UbuntuNewbee> M_Cheevy: this is so weird.
[03:53] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbee: wassup?
[03:53] <UbuntuNewbee> M_Cheevy: i got a beeping sound in the Multimedia System's Selector when I clicked "Test"
[03:53] <xterra99> brenner, thanks
[03:53] <joe_> typical, no i just ry to edit them but they go back thier defualts
[03:53] <benplaut> where does breezy mount cameras to?
[03:53] <TraceGreen> M_Cheevy, I don't know. sorry.
[03:53] <UbuntuNewbee> M_Cheevy: there is "Default Sink" and "Default Source"
[03:54] <aTypical> joe_, how are you trying to edit them?
[03:54] <nickrud> zaphar_ps, are you behind a proxy or anything like that?
[03:54] <zaphar_ps> DSL router
[03:54] <M_Cheevy> joe_: exit out of synaptic, gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, save, close, open synaptic, update
[03:54] <joe_> i'm folloing the starter guide
[03:54] <phosphoricx> hey guys :-)
[03:55] <zaphar_ps> nickrud: it's always worked before this is the first time Ive had trouble
[03:55] <joe_> doenst give me the backportd or repos
[03:55] <joe_> so i'm just trying to enable my repos thru synaptic
[03:55] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbee: I believe there is... I'm not sure though.  was the beep from the pc speaker or from the sc speakers?
[03:55] <phosphoricx> anybody running moneydance on amd64?
[03:55] <UbuntuNewbee> M_Cheevy: I clicked on test for "Default Sink" and i got a load beeping sound out the speakers. I get nothing on the "Default Source test".
[03:56] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbee: welll... guess which one is the right one ;)
[03:56] <UbuntuNewbee> M_Cheevy: the speakers. I think "sink" = out = speakers  and "source" = in = microphone.
[03:56] <aTypical> joe_, sorry, but I've not seen that error.  I can't see why it wouldn't allow you to edit your sources.  You might try editing them by hand.
[03:56] <joe_> thru gedit?
[03:57] <oxez> anyone have success with kernel 2.6.14-nitro and nvidia drivers? I get an error about it cannot insert the "nvidia.ko" module
[03:57] <M_Cheevy> joe: that's a good choice of the editors you should have
[03:57] <aTypical> joe_, sure.  I don't think the editor matters.
[03:57] <mobus> what's the command for updating to breezy?
[03:57] <joe_> i'll try it
[03:57] <M_Cheevy> joe: I picked that because it's installed by default so everyone should have it
[03:58] <M_Cheevy> mobus: upper right hand corner of your screen should show an "updates available" button if there are any
[03:58] <aTypical> mobus, in a terminal you can try apt-get dist-upgrade after you've pointed your sources to breezy.
[03:58] <M_Cheevy> d'oh... updating FROM hoary
[03:58] <bimberi> !breezy
[03:58] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:58] <aTypical> M_Cheevy, that's only my guess.
[03:58] <UbuntuNewbee> !hoary
[03:58] <ubotu> I heard hoary is a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet
[03:59] <nickrud> zaphar_ps, I'm not sure what is going on. Your sources do look right  (I have the same) dns?
[03:59] <M_Cheevy> aTypical: a better one as you seem to have read it more closely that I did....
[03:59] <zaphar_ps> I can hit it with the webbrowser
[03:59] <zaphar_ps> even download the source.gz file
[03:59] <zaphar_ps> nothing's in the file though
[04:00] <Nytryx> !money
[04:00] <ubotu> Nytryx: Are you smoking crack?
[04:00] <zaphar_ps> how frustrating :-(
[04:00] <Nytryx> lol
[04:00] <Nytryx> !no!
[04:00] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[04:00] <nickrud> zaphar_ps, are you getting anything from your (ugh:) unofficial repos?
[04:00] <Nytryx> !so what are you saying?
[04:00] <ubotu> Nytryx: I think you lost me on that one
[04:00] <zaphar_ps> They are commented out right now I don't know
[04:00] <d03boy> ok dudes
[04:00] <Nytryx> !but it was a simple question
[04:01] <ubotu> Nytryx: Are you smoking crack?
[04:01] <Nytryx> !there you go agian
[04:01] <ubotu> Nytryx: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:01] <UbuntuNewbee> M_Cheevy: is there a command to see what /dev my sound card is on?
[04:01] <Nytryx> !haha
[04:01] <ubotu> Nytryx: Syntax error in line 1
[04:01] <Squee-D> How does the kernel decide to use a module for a device ? i want to try the ndis wrapper instead of ath_pci but the kernel insists on using ath_pci
[04:01] <nickrud> !yourself
[04:01] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[04:01] <proxosi> hey guys
[04:01] <Nytryx> talking to ubotu is fun lol
[04:01] <proxosi> why wouldnt vlc read wmv?
[04:01] <Nytryx> i knew that nickrud
[04:01] <brenner> Nytryx: not for us.  /msg ubotu
[04:01] <nickrud> :)
[04:02] <bimberi> Nytryx: yes, but the last sentence :)
[04:02] <Nytryx> it was amusing ok ill stop
[04:02] <UbuntuNewbee> M_Cheevy: crap....whatever you do, DO NOT do "modprobe snd"
[04:02] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbee:   this udev /dev/fs stuff is kinda new to me... but traditionally /dev/dsp is a symbolic link to the real device
[04:02] <UbuntuNewbee> pc speaker won't stop.
[04:02] <proxosi> actually my vlc player cant display the image of the video only sound... what is wrong?
[04:02] <Nytryx> what? bimberi
[04:02] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbee: only one way to deal with that.. try 'rmmod snd'
[04:02] <M_Cheevy> UbuntuNewbee: okay, two... reboot
[04:03] <UbuntuNewbee> looks like i'm reboooting.
[04:03] <nickrud> proxosi, not all wmv's are equal; some play, some don't in my experience
[04:03] <ejofee> !gpgerr
[04:03] <ubotu> it has been said that gpgerr is a GPG-related error that sometimes occur when accessing the Ubuntu archives; it can usually be solved by typing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" (without the quotes!) in a terminal
[04:03] <bimberi> Nytryx: nvm, i meant the last sentence of the !yourself factoid.
[04:03] <jesse_> wmv is just a file wrapper, not a real "filetype" perse
[04:03] <dooglus> nickrud: I think the DRM'ed ones don't play, and the others do.
[04:03] <M_Cheevy> quick question, is 'Remove modules' enabled in the kernel packages?
[04:03] <proxosi> nikrud: is there any soulution
[04:03] <UbuntuNewbee> okay...everything just froze.
[04:04] <UbuntuNewbee> ARGH!!
[04:04] <nickrud> dooglus, ah, is there an easy check for which is which
[04:04] <dooglus> nickrud: I don't know of one if there is
[04:04] <Nytryx> ahh
[04:04] <brenner> ejofee: you still getting that error hey?
[04:04] <dooglus> nickrud: other than trying to play them...
[04:04] <nickrud> proxosi, I've heard of a thing called crossover, or wine. which allows you to run windows media player
[04:04] <nickrud> dooglus, oh well. worth asking :)
[04:05] <d03boy> anyone knwo where the fix is for when you do a dist-upgrade and the xserver breaks?
[04:05] <taomaster> 4get windows
[04:05] <ejofee> brenner: yes :(
[04:05] <ejofee> brenner: and i get warnings in synaptic
[04:05] <jesse_> proxosi: yes, wine + win media player will solve you problem, as nickrud said
[04:05] <Madpilot> d03boy: you upgraded to Dapper?
[04:05] <proxosi> ok
[04:05] <jesse_> !wine
[04:05] <proxosi> !wine
[04:05] <bur[n] er> anyone know if there's a way to do a "cp -a" type copy via nautilus?
[04:06] <d03boy> Madpilot, no, breezy, did dapper just get released or something?
[04:06] <jroes> yes
[04:06] <jroes> time to start a new X session
[04:06] <jroes> with kdm :)
[04:06] <bur[n] er> d03boy: dapper has a ways to go
[04:06] <proxosi> what should i google for wine
[04:06] <M_Cheevy> proxosi: just search the wiki for it, bound to be a well editted howto
[04:06] <proxosi> o ok
[04:06] <M_Cheevy> wine is common as
[04:06] <dooglus> d03boy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:06] <brenner> ejofee: post both the errors and your sources.list file to a pastebin
[04:06] <d03boy> dooglus, i'll try
[04:07] <ejofee> brenner: any idea what this is ?: "could not download all repository indexes: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)"
[04:07] <nickrud> proxosi, I'd google windows media player wind
[04:07] <nickrud> *wine
[04:07] <ejofee> brenner: ohh, i did it here
[04:07] <M_Cheevy> ejofee: sounds like you have a corupted download... apt-get update
[04:07] <ejofee> brenner, M_Cheevy: i mean, isn't that link necessary?
[04:08] <ejofee> M_Cheevy: and why is it corrupted all the time?
[04:08] <ejofee> M_Cheevy: isn't synaptic's update similar to apt-get update?
[04:08] <M_Cheevy> ejofee: it is... but if the transfer burped, the .gz file is corrupt.. and will stay corrupt until you do an update
[04:08] <ejofee> M_Cheevy: isn't synaptic's RELOAD similar to apt-get update?
[04:08] <nickrud> bur[n] er, yes, you can select by pattern, but don't it's slower than mollasses on that many files
[04:08] <brenner> ejofee: yes, they're equivalent afaik
[04:08] <ejofee> M_Cheevy: oh, i see
[04:08] <M_Cheevy> ejofee: it should be, I'm just more comfortable at the command prompt
[04:09] <d03boy> can someone point me to a working sources.list for breezy that I can just wget in a term?
[04:09] <carthik> Hi, to dual boot windows and Ubuntu - does windows have to be at the primary partition, or is it okay if I have it in hda5 ?
[04:09] <ejofee> carthik: windows is very sensitive as to which partition it is on
[04:10] <nickrud> bur[n] er, that last bit was a bit incoherent, but the point is, nautilus is way slower than the console for that
[04:10] <sethk> carthik, windows versions >= 2000 need to be on a primary
[04:10] <sethk> carthik, and usually you'll have big problems unless it is the first primary
[04:10] <ejofee> carthik: as for ubuntu, it doesn't matter which partition it is on
[04:10] <taomaster> how do i change my root password?
[04:10] <sethk> taomaster, sudo passwd
[04:10] <ejofee> taomaster: sudo passwd
[04:10] <carthik> sethk, any work arounds for when it is not on the primary partition that you could point me to?
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> FAQ #1  :)
[04:10] <ejofee> :)
[04:11] <bur[n] er> nickrud: i just did cp -a... it's always nice to see progress though... constantly doing df -h == my progress bar ;)
[04:11] <WebLOCH> yubimusubi|away, M_Cheevy, cafeugo, it was nice talking to you all, im off to bed, take care
[04:11] <M_Cheevy> sethk: not really, I've had 2k and 2k3 on partitions other than the first primary very successfully
[04:11] <sethk> carthik, I've never seen it work out that way.
[04:11] <carthik> taomaster, i would recommend you dont create the root user without need... :)
[04:11] <taomaster> thanx
[04:11] <sethk> M_Cheevy, depends.
[04:11] <carthik> sethk, thank you
[04:11] <M_Cheevy> WebLOCH: ciao... sleep well
[04:11] <nickrud> bur[n] er, try  watch df -h
[04:11] <that_weasel> anyone care to help me get the following repository setup in apt (http://www.soulmachine.net/breezy/unstable/)?
[04:11] <sethk> M_Cheevy, with some disk geometries it is a big problem, depending of course on the sizes of the earlier partitions
[04:11] <eric_s> Hi, any idea how to read an avi file?
[04:11] <M_Cheevy> sethk: admittedly, I used system commander to multiboot
[04:12] <sethk> M_Cheevy, that doesn't count.  :)
[04:12] <bur[n] er> nickrud: that's rad!!  thanks :)  that's two cool term things I've got from ya today :)
[04:12] <sethk> eric_s, how about rm ?
[04:12] <d03boy> you guys should get an official link to where you can wget a sources.list
[04:12] <M_Cheevy> sethk: sure it does ;)  hooray for the fosi archives ;)  might still be there
[04:12] <La_PaRCa> hey kids
[04:12] <nickrud> bur[n] er, it sorta makes up for my total brain fart on -a for cp :)
[04:12] <R|P2> hey seveas
[04:12] <R|P2> hey M_cheevy
[04:12] <Hobbsee> !tell d03boy about repos
[04:12] <eric_s> rm? what is this?
[04:12] <M_Cheevy> R|P2: heya, have we met? or should I not be embarassed I don't recognise you?
[04:13] <R|P2> yeah we've met
[04:13] <R|P2> :D
[04:13] <M_Cheevy> R|P2: thanks ;)
[04:13] <R|P2> ;)
[04:13] <nickrud> ubotu tell eric_s about restricted
[04:13] <R|P2> m up n runnin on ubuntu
[04:13] <R|P2> the wifi is up too :D
[04:13] <oblib> How do I get nvidia module to suspend?
[04:13] <R|P2> ndiswrapper helped
[04:13] <ejofee> ubotu tell ejofee about restricted
[04:13] <nickrud> eric_s, take a look at the pm you should have just got
[04:13] <R|P2> now m looking for ntfs read support
[04:13] <carthik> d03boy, why dont you just edit your sources.list using info from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SourcesList
[04:13] <R|P2> how do i install it?
[04:14] <M_Cheevy> R|P2: distribution kernel or custom kernel?
[04:14] <eric_s> ok just a minute
[04:14] <R|P2> no idea
[04:14] <R|P2> :P
[04:14] <proxosi> wat is a i386 architecture?
[04:14] <R|P2> to be frank
[04:14] <R|P2> its a distribution kernel i think
[04:14] <Nytryx> !im only doing this because im board and vector linux is taking a while to install i love ubuntu and edubuntu rocks!
[04:14] <ubotu> Nytryx: that's too long
[04:14] <nickrud> proxosi, a winintel box
[04:14] <R|P2> installed it frm CD
[04:15] <sethk> Nytryx, I think you are bored, not board
[04:15] <proxosi> nickrud: emmm me a beginner of linux.. i dont understand those terms :(
[04:15] <sethk> Nytryx, unless you have a reset button
[04:15] <Nytryx> you got the point sethk
[04:15] <M_Cheevy> R|P2: if you have no idea, it's distribution.
[04:15] <Nytryx> i do have a reset button
[04:15] <R|P2> M_Cheevy, yeah! its distribution, i dont yet know how to compile n use a custom kernel
[04:15] <R|P2> :P
[04:15] <sethk> Nytryx, can you recommend a mute button for my ex-wife?
[04:16] <jiangguowei> hello
[04:16] <M_Cheevy> R|P2: all I had to do was to mount the drives, whatever modules needed were loaded, if you must do "modprobe ntfs" and then mount
[04:16] <R|P2> everytime u bood u've to do that?
[04:16] <nickrud> proxosi, there are microprocessor families; i386 came before pentium and athlon. It's a shorthand for computers that use those types of chips
[04:16] <M_Cheevy> sethk: Change your license plate.. mine reads DWIFED ;)
[04:16] <Nytryx> sethk yeah steel reserve 211 "Triple Export"
[04:17] <nickrud> proxosi, wintel (I typed it wrong before) means windows and intel.
[04:17] <proxosi> nickrud: so im amd 64.. so im not using those .. am i m correct
[04:17] <ejofee> brenner: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5808
[04:17] <M_Cheevy> R|P2: nope, you can edit your /etc/fstab to include them.. do a google on "linux fstab ntfs"
[04:17] <taomaster> is there a way to upgrade to the new ubuntu thur the terminakl?
[04:17] <nickrud> proxosi, oh yes, that amd64 is a direct descendant of the i386
[04:17] <Nytryx> http://www.steelbrewing.com/
[04:18] <Nytryx> sethk
[04:18] <brenner> taomaster: what do you mean by new?   breezy or dapper?
[04:18] <proxosi> nickrud: ........ so im i386?
[04:18] <taomaster> dapper
[04:18] <taomaster> i'm in breezy
[04:18] <oblib> How do I get nvidia module to suspend?
[04:18] <brenner> ejofee: sounds like your sources.list file has something wrong.
[04:18] <R|P2> dats very helpful M_Cheevy
[04:18] <R|P2> :)
[04:18] <R|P2> brb
[04:18] <R|P2> need to try it out right away
[04:18] <eric_s> hum I see... can I  burn a CD with an avi file then?
[04:18] <brenner> ejofee: do you have a pastebin link for that?
[04:19] <M_Cheevy> nickrud: by way of the DEC Alpha ;)
[04:19] <ejofee> brenner: this is the content of my sources list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5809
[04:19] <nickrud> proxosi, but, and here's a little catch, it's capable of 64 bit fetching, where the pentium is not. Some advice: use the i386 distro instead of the amd64 one, you won't be sorry. Multimedia, flash, etc don't work well on the amd
[04:19] <M_Cheevy> R|P2: I try ;)
[04:19] <nickrud> M_Cheevy, crossbreeding makes for improved strains
[04:19] <taomaster> brenner- anything new with the new release?
[04:20] <M_Cheevy> nickrud: wasn't critising, just making sure DEC got credit where due ;)
[04:20] <Kuyaedz> if there wasn't anything new, would the version really be 'new'?
[04:20] <westymatt> hey where are the perl modules located?
[04:20] <proxosi> nickrud: ok... so i followed some steps of http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb    but im stuck after the first picture
[04:20] <nickrud> M_Cheevy, never saw it that way.
[04:20] <ejofee> brenner: i just added everything from ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:20] <M_Cheevy> Kuyaedz: ask textbook publishers... the things they do to get a new "edition" ;)
[04:21] <proxosi> nickrud: it told me to search for 'wine'         but there are so many results i dotn know which one to choose
[04:21] <oblib> How do I get nvidia module to suspend?
[04:21] <nickrud> proxosi, I have have never used wine. I don't run windows but for one program.
[04:21] <M_Cheevy> nickrud: wasn't too worried, that's why the ";)"
[04:21] <nickrud> proxosi, sudo apt-get install wine :)
[04:21] <proxosi> o ok
[04:21] <R|P2> ;)
[04:21] <brenner> ejofee: looks like you appended the output to the old one though, instead of *replacing* it.
[04:21] <westymatt> does anyone know where perl modules are located??
[04:21] <brenner> ejofee: you've got multiple entries
[04:22] <nickrud> M_Cheevy, actually, I don't think I ever really knew that about DEC. I stopped paying attention to chip stuff a long time ago.
[04:22] <proxosi> nickrud: i got this " Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:22] <proxosi> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:22] <proxosi> is only available from another source
[04:22] <proxosi> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[04:22] <proxosi> "
[04:22] <ejofee> brenner: yes... i thought this was not a problem. i thought it was actually good, like having more than one mirror (just in case)...
[04:22] <nickrud> ubotu tell proxosi about repos
[04:22] <M_Cheevy> nickrud: yeah, intel stole a lot of it's newer designs from the alpha (they were making them for DEC)
[04:23] <brenner> ejofee: apparently not, because that's one of the errors you're getting
[04:23] <nickrud> proxosi, did you get that pm?
[04:23] <brenner> actually, it's a warning
[04:23] <proxosi> yes
[04:24] <nickrud> proxosi, and one more piece of advice: please don't paste in the channel
[04:24] <ejofee> brenner: actually, if i erase content of the default sources file and replace it with the one from source-o-matic (adding everything!) do ai lose *anything*?
[04:24] <proxosi> nickrud: sorry.. thought it was very short... didnt know it adds up that much line
[04:24] <ejofee> *ai=i
[04:24] <M_Cheevy> ejofee: if in trouble or doubt, run in circles, scream and... but really, instead of deleting it, just mv (rename) it?
[04:25] <nickrud> proxosi, it used to be 4 lines was ok, then 3, now, 1 :)
[04:25] <nickrud> ejofee, that source-o-matic makes just fine sources. Almost as pretty as my handcrafted one :)
[04:26] <ejofee> M_Cheevy: in fact, i wonder why some repos don't work (because this is what the seems the problem is)... and why does seveas not have a gpg key (this also seems to be one of the problems)?
[04:26] <Isilando> hey guys, does anybody know which deamon or what is responsible for the drives? My cdrom not only does not auto-mount, but the console hangs as well when I attempt to mount it manually
[04:26] <ejofee> nickrud: then what do you think the problems are with those sources? did you read my pastebin post?
[04:26] <M_Cheevy> ejofee: you're going to some out of the way places... I tend to limit my source.list to just what I need, when I need it... I try to avoid unofficial stuff if I can.
[04:27] <chad_> asdf
[04:27] <oblib> ghjkl;?
[04:27] <nickrud> ejofee, you have some duplicate lines, I think. I've been told that can be problematic
[04:27] <Isilando> asdf to you too
[04:27] <ejofee> M_Cheevy: i wanted everything just because it seems the official ubuntu sources don't include anything from nomachine nx (like freenx)
[04:28] <M_Cheevy> ejofee: like I said, limit it to what you need... and everyone's saying you have duplicates in there... don't ignore that
[04:28] <ejofee> nickrud: so are you sure it's no problem if i remove all the original file content and replace with the one from source-o-matic? that is, are you sure i lose nothing?
[04:28] <ejofee> M_Cheevy: right
[04:28] <oblib> How do I get nvidia module to suspend?
[04:29] <M_Cheevy> ejofee: if you're worried about losing the current contents of your sources.list do a "mv sources.list sources.back" then do the source-o-matic dealy
[04:29] <ejofee> thank you very much, brenner, M_Cheevy, nickrud
[04:29] <nickrud> ejofee, you've got all the official repos in the sourceomatic: main, restricted, universe and multiverse from breezy, updates, and security. That's it.
[04:29] <Nytryx> b double e double r u n !
[04:30] <Nytryx> whats that spell?
[04:30] <brenner> ejofee: np.  i think M_Cheevy and nickrud finished it off though :)
[04:30] <M_Cheevy> Beer Run? with a missing "R"
[04:30] <Toma-> beerrun
[04:30] <M_Cheevy> whoops, my bad
[04:30] <M_Cheevy> bbiab....
[04:35] <nickrud> !beerrun
[04:35] <ubotu> somebody said beerrun was I'll fly if you buy.
[04:36] <jesse_> !botbeer
[04:36] <ubotu> jesse_: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:36] <jesse_> OH YES
[04:36] <nomin> how do I save a new app in the menu editor?  I've added one to 'internet' but I don't see how to save it.
[04:36] <lando> Can someone assist me in finding the documentation that can *Quickly*  (CUPS) so I can setup a network printer
[04:36] <La_PaRCa> nomin, no need to save
[04:36] <nickrud> nomin, it saves as you type
[04:36] <Toma-> nomin: you need to restart gnome-panel for it to pop up
[04:36] <jesse_> !tell lando about cups
[04:37] <jesse_> oh noes
[04:37] <La_PaRCa> Toma-, not if he used smeg
[04:37] <ejofee> now, beyond the "dirty quick-fix", does anybody have any idea what *causes* the gpgerr to some repos?
[04:37] <nomin> I'm using smeg, and it's not showing the app in the applications internet section
[04:37] <mobus> what is the command for installing a non-apt .deb file?
[04:38] <nomin> Toma, how do I restart gnome-panel?
[04:38] <bimberi> mobus: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[04:38] <jesse_> mobus: dpkg -i <name>.deb
[04:38] <mobus> thanks
[04:38] <nickrud> ejofee, it's because you don't have the key added to the apt-keyring
[04:38] <bimberi> nomin: killall gnome-panel
[04:38] <Toma-> nomin: "killall gnome-panel"
[04:38] <jroes> hmm, my sound suddenly stopped working after I rebooted from an upgrade to breezy and running a kubuntu-desktop install, I saw an error fly by on bootup, but I can't find it in dmesg, is there another place I should look?
[04:38] <Toma-> itll restart by itself
[04:38] <BenUrban> Seveas: around?
[04:38] <ejofee> nickrud: cool...: how do i add it? i thought apt-get should have dealt with it...
[04:38] <jroes> I think it was something like "operation not permitted" when it tried to do some sound setup
[04:39] <nickrud> ejofee, a sec
[04:39] <that_weasel> if I have two repositories that contain a package with the same name how do i differenciate between the two...
[04:39] <nomin> when I exit smeg and re-enter it, I don't see the app that I added
[04:39] <ejofee> nickrud: yes (thanks)
[04:39] <sethk> jroes, /var/log/messages
[04:39] <gpled> is the only way to mount and unmount floppies, through the terminal?
[04:39] <crimsun> that_weasel: you can explicitly pass the version if they differ
[04:39] <nomin> it doesn't appear to be saving anything
[04:39] <crimsun> that_weasel: for instance, apt-get install foo=version
[04:40] <BenUrban> can anyone help with this? http://rafb.net/paste/results/13rRn726.html
[04:40] <BenUrban> (line 1949)
[04:40] <ejofee> nickrud: these are my current gpg warnings: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5810
[04:40] <jroes> sethk: nothing there either
[04:40] <lando> All I need is the guidance to find understandable (CUPS)documentation fro network printing.  Even a lead will be appreciated.
[04:40] <that_weasel> crimsun, I am using Synaptic at the moment...if i search by Maintainer then I get a whole list of packages...but when i check the properties of the one I want, it has the info listed for the conflicting one...
[04:40] <dtrostis> hi guys I have a question.
[04:40] <_jason> dtrostis, ask it :)
[04:40] <Kuyaedz> yes dtrostis
[04:41] <jroes> sethk: is there something simple I could use to restart all the audio-controlling stuff?
[04:41] <BenUrban> dtrostis: is it 42?
[04:41] <crimsun> that_weasel: then use apt-get or aptitude from the command line
[04:41] <Kuyaedz> lol
[04:41] <dtrostis> I installed the Nvidia drivers but it doesn't show in the system tools menu
[04:41] <sethk> BenUrban, you don't have drm support, but there is nothing actually wrong in what you posted
[04:41] <jroes> I think it failed on alsa initialization or something
[04:41] <that_weasel> crimsun, k...thanks
[04:41] <crimsun> jroes: you mean the sound subsystem?
[04:41] <jroes> yeah
[04:41] <crimsun> jroes: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload
[04:41] <BenUrban> sethk: there is an error message in there
[04:41] <wuming> how to install wine in ubuntu
[04:41] <jroes> thanks
[04:41] <jesse_> dtrostis: nvidia-settings
[04:41] <crimsun> wuming: enable the universe repository, then install wine
[04:41] <sethk> BenUrban, I know, but it doesn't indicate a problem.
[04:41] <ejofee> wuming: "sudo apt-get install wine"
[04:41] <nickrud> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5811 <--- ejofee use the NO_PUBKEY string as input
[04:42] <sethk> BenUrban, just that it can't use a particular optimization
[04:42] <dtrostis> I did installed, but it doesn't show anything
[04:42] <BenUrban> sethk: that's a problem for me :P
[04:42] <jesse_> dtrostis: killall gnome-panel
[04:42] <jesse_> dtrostis: then look
[04:42] <sethk> BenUrban, then fix your kernel.  it needs drm support for your graphics hardware
[04:42] <jroes> hmmm, amarok is giving me this weird error from GStreamer
[04:42] <BenUrban> sethk: it had it a few days ago
[04:42] <ejofee> nickrud: thank you. (does this mean those repositories officially lack a gpg key, or is it just a quick fix?)
[04:42] <BenUrban> didn't last long thogh
[04:42] <nomin> I'm still not able to add an app to the applications menu
[04:43] <sethk> BenUrban, that's good, but unless you have a time machine I don't see that it helps much.
[04:43] <jroes> gstmad.c, failed to negotiate 44100khz
[04:43] <jesse_> dtrostis: wait, did you make the desktop config for it?
[04:43] <dtrostis> I tried the killall
[04:43] <BenUrban> sethk: i do but it requires 3d accelerated x
[04:43] <Toothpick> can someone on ubuntu do an apt-cache search xvidcap please.
[04:43] <nickrud> ejofee, no they do have a key, you just have to get it, and add it to apt's key ring.
[04:43] <BenUrban> :P
[04:43] <dtrostis> Yes Jesse, I saved the file as indicated
[04:43] <nomin> when I add limewire to smeg and than exit smeg, limewire is gone - it's not saving it
[04:43] <dtrostis> may be I will have to try again
[04:43] <jroes> Toothpick: nothing
[04:43] <jroes> Toothpick: you can probably google somewhere
[04:43] <sethk> BenUrban, I mean, I don't have any way of knowing what was done to the kernel or the configuration since then
[04:43] <jesse_> dtrostis: worth a shot. did you try killing the panel, then looking?
[04:44] <ejofee> nickrud: your pastebin helps me add it to the apt's keyring?
[04:44] <dtrostis> Yes Jesse, I even restrated the computer and I can see the Nvidia logo
[04:44] <BenUrban> sethk: i added seveas' repository since then
[04:44] <dtrostis> restarted
[04:44] <BenUrban> then updated
[04:44] <BenUrban> he's not around atm though :/
[04:44] <nickrud> ejofee, I just ran it on the first one, it added riddell's key to apt just fine.
[04:44] <jesse_> dtrostis: hmmmm. i would check the .desktop file you created for nvidia-settings
[04:45] <bimberi> BenUrban: didn't someone give you his phone number? :P
[04:45] <BenUrban> lmao
[04:45] <dtrostis> Jesse, I used the one that comes in the Ubuntu starter guide
[04:45] <sethk> BenUrban, if you know specifically what you updated that triggered the problem, then that would help.  Just knowing the repository won't help much, unless you are going to analyze what is in his repository that is missing from (or different than) the others
[04:45] <crimsun> jroes: you didn't create your own ~/.asoundrc, did you?
[04:45] <bullitt> no sound in VLC, tried all the audio options, system sounds work fine
[04:45] <BenUrban> sethk: i suspect it was the fglrx-kernel-drivers
[04:45] <d03boy> can someone guide me in wtf to do after doing a dist-upgrade from Hoary to Breezy only to find out that X wont start?
[04:45] <sethk> BenUrban, that's certainly logical.  that's directly relevant
[04:46] <jesse_> dtrostis: yeah, adn you cant see it under the system, or utilities menus? (im not on ubuntu right now, otherwise id look for certain where it is)
[04:46] <BenUrban> sethk: yeah
[04:46] <ejofee> nickrud: i wonder... how does gpg know, from the two lines you sent me, *which* keys to add to the keyring...?
[04:46] <that_weasel> crimsun, is there an easy way to install all package from a particular repo
[04:46] <crimsun> bullitt: did you install vlc-plugin-alsa ?
[04:46] <sethk> BenUrban, can you remove his repository, and reinstall fglrx?
[04:46] <BenUrban> hmm
[04:46] <crimsun> that_weasel: not really
[04:46] <nomin> I'm gonna put it in a pastebin
[04:46] <bullitt> CrimsonKing,  negative
[04:46] <BenUrban> that's an idea...
[04:46] <CrimsonKing> sups?
[04:46] <bullitt> oops, crimsun
[04:46] <crimsun> bullitt: then do so.
[04:46] <CrimsonKing> ah :}
[04:46] <bullitt> my bad nick completion
[04:46] <d03boy> fuck stats with all your might
[04:46] <CrimsonKing> dude.
[04:46] <nicholaspaul> hey gang
[04:46] <mark105> is there any easy way to change my root password when i dont know it?
[04:46] <BenUrban> d03boy: language
[04:46] <crimsun> CrimsonKing: my nick is often mistaken as an abbreviation of the band, yes.
[04:46] <CrimsonKing> i am getting raped by stats
[04:46] <d03boy> BenUrban, english
[04:47] <nickrud> ejofee, that A506E6D4DD4D5088 is the unique identifier of the key; and it's registered in the pgp.net database
[04:47] <Toothpick> jroes, thanks.
[04:47] <BenUrban> not quite :P
[04:47] <d03boy> hehe
[04:47] <Toothpick> It's in stable debian, just not testing or unstable as far as I can tell.
[04:47] <nicholaspaul> anyone know how to get gdmsetup to see the gdm conf? Its for setting up login screens....??????????????????
[04:47] <cyphase> how do you make Network Manager run at bootup?
[04:47] <CrimsonKing> our finals are evil, its 10 multiple choice questions where none of the answers are right and we have to pick the closest, and we aren't given any forumla sheets
[04:47] <d03boy> what in the eff do I do after dist-upgrading to breezy to find that xorg wont load up
[04:47] <nicholaspaul> cyphase, you can add it to 'sessions'
[04:48] <cyphase> nicholaspaul, i mean the daemon
[04:48] <cyphase> not the applet
[04:48] <cyphase> the applet is already in sessions
[04:48] <crimsun> d03boy: you stash your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf onto paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:48] <nicholaspaul> oh sorry cycom ... dunno
[04:48] <UncleD> I'm interested in making my laptop dual boot (winxp/ubuntu) - what is the best partitioning program and such - is there a tutorial for doing this (so I can do it right the first time?)
[04:48] <cyphase> i want the daemon to run even if no one logs on
[04:48] <nicholaspaul> oh sorry cyphase  dunno
[04:48] <cyphase> lol
[04:48] <nomin> here is the pastebin for me trying to add an app to the applications menu under 'internet' section.  the app is limewire:  http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=5702
[04:48] <dtrostis> Jesse I found the problem, was a period missing from the desktop settings, thanks
[04:48] <cyphase> cycom and i need to talk
[04:48] <cyphase> :P
[04:48] <KiKiD> hi
[04:48] <nicholaspaul> LOL
[04:48] <nicholaspaul> cyphase,  i'm hitting TAB too early..!
[04:48] <cyphase> yea, i know
[04:48] <nicholaspaul> hehe
[04:49] <KiKiD> can I rollback to breezy?
[04:49] <bullitt> crimsun, no suck love
[04:49] <cyphase> cyp TAB
[04:49] <KiKiD> I wanted to give dapper a try
[04:49] <cyphase> :)
[04:49] <bullitt> crimsun, no such love
[04:49] <bullitt> what a typo
[04:49] <nicholaspaul> KiKiD, from what i've heard, that could be tough. Youd be better off making a backup.
[04:49] <BenUrban> cyphase: make a script in /etc/init.d
[04:49] <cyphase> how do you set a program to run at boot?
[04:49] <cyphase> lol
[04:49] <cyphase> thanx
[04:49] <d03boy> crimsun, can I reconfig xorg somehow?
[04:49] <crimsun> bullitt: try choosing the alsa option in the audio preferences (you need to enable advanced options)
[04:49] <ejofee> nickrud: oh, so i save your paste as a script and then just run "script A506E6D4DD4D5088" (or whatever i see in the apt's gpg errors) right?
[04:49] <Enlite> I just added 4 hard drives to my system, and used qtparted to create partitions.. I added them in fstab, and rebooted, but they didn't mount... what do i need to do?
[04:49] <crimsun> d03boy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:50] <bullitt> crimsun, yep, that too
[04:50] <cyphase> BenUrban, can i just have a link to the executable?
[04:50] <nicholaspaul> Q: I want to reinstall gdmsetup but i cant :( Anyone?
[04:50] <BenUrban> cyphase: it needs to take specific parameters
[04:50] <crimsun> bullitt: no sound whatsoever?
[04:50] <UncleD> Any good tutorials on setting up a dual boot (WinXp/Ubuntu?) - inlcuding the partioning?
[04:50] <d03boy> crimsun, thank you kind sir. I will have your children
[04:50] <cyphase> oh, right
[04:50] <BenUrban> cyphase: look at the other scripts in that dir to see how it should look
[04:50] <bullitt> not though vlc
[04:50] <cyphase> start, stop, etc
[04:50] <nicholaspaul> nalioth, Guess who's back :D
[04:50] <crimsun> bullitt: nuke ~/.vlc and try again
[04:51] <nickrud> ejofee, yes
[04:51] <cyphase> BenUrban, so i make the script and that's it? i don't have to include a link to it anywhere..
[04:51] <BenUrban> cyphase: yeah you do
[04:51] <cyphase> where?
[04:51] <BenUrban> cyphase: but i don't remember where...
[04:51] <cyphase> hmm
[04:51] <BenUrban> i think there's a gi for that
[04:51] <BenUrban> *gui
[04:51] <riaabad> uhg anyone here play with video conversion taking existing avis and formatting them for video ipod?
[04:51] <dooglus> cyphase: you can run scripts from the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:51] <cyphase> k
[04:51] <cyphase> thanx
[04:52] <BenUrban> heh, that's easier
[04:52] <cyphase> yea
[04:52] <dooglus> cyphase: it'll run as root, at boot time.  is that what you wanted?
[04:52] <cyphase> yes
[04:52] <BenUrban> but if it's a daemon you might want an init.d script
[04:52] <cyphase> thanx
[04:52] <BenUrban> that would allow you to stop it easily
[04:52] <oblib> How do I get nvidia module to suspend?
[04:52] <R|P2> need a reboot
[04:52] <BenUrban> oblib: try twine
[04:52] <cyphase> BenUrban, it's fine for now at least
[04:52] <R|P2> brb
[04:52] <KiKiD> yeah I upgraded to dapper on my beater pc
[04:52] <cyphase> i can just killall NetworkManager
[04:52] <cyphase> :P
[04:52] <KiKiD> and not x wont boot
[04:53] <KiKiD> x wont start
[04:53] <cyphase> until i have time to make the script
[04:53] <cyphase> or someone does it for me
[04:53] <KiKiD> I was hoping I could rollback
[04:53] <cyphase> ;)
[04:53] <BenUrban> cyphase: fyi System->Administration->Services is the gui i was talking about
[04:53] <BenUrban> KiKiD: if you made a backup you can roll back :P
[04:53] <dooglus> cyphase: you could just make a copy of /etc/init.d/gdm or some such and edit it accordingly
[04:53] <nalioth> nicholaspaul: who's that?
[04:54] <nicholaspaul> nalioth, oh no one important...
[04:54] <cyphase> lol, i didn't think to check there
[04:54] <ejofee> gpg: WARNING: nothing exported
[04:54] <ejofee> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[04:54] <ejofee> nickrud ^
[04:54] <NCLife> ubotu: tell NCLife about cli
[04:54] <cyphase> nope
[04:55] <nicholaspaul> nalioth, just having some fun with ppc dapper
[04:55] <vid21> any idea if dapper will support floppy disks?  :)
[04:55] <jesse_> what am floppy =D
[04:55] <bullitt> crimsun, ripped reinstalled vlc, no dice
[04:56] <nickrud> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5812 <--- ejofee my run with riddell's key
[04:56] <bullitt> too tired thanks for help
[04:56] <oblib> BenUrban, what is twine?
[04:56] <BenUrban> oblib: i was making a joke
[04:57] <BenUrban> actually string would be better :P
[04:57] <jesse_> hahaha!
[04:57] <nomin> now amarok's icon isn't showing up in the tray but it's still playing
[04:57] <Madpilot> vid21: floppies should work already ;)
[04:57] <oblib> hmmm. I give it a 2 at best
[04:57] <BenUrban> oblib: 2 out of what?
[04:57] <oblib> 10
[04:57] <BenUrban> thought so
[04:57] <oblib> besides, that isn't one of the listed uses of twine on wikipedia
[04:58] <leather_n_luv> does ubuntu have support for SATA?
[04:58] <BenUrban> ...
[04:58] <bur[n] er_> ye leather_n_luv
[04:58] <oblib> Maybe we should add it
[04:58] <vid21> Madpilot:  Every machine that I've setup has had problems with mounting...  apparently there's pmount issues?
[04:58] <nickrud> ejofee, I may be making some assumptions here: you need to have your gpg set up first :)
[04:58] <BenUrban> Package fglrx-kernel is a virtual package provided by:
[04:58] <BenUrban>   fglrx-kernel-2.6.12-10-386 8.19.10-1+2.6.12-10.24
[04:58] <BenUrban>   fglrx-kernel-2.6.12-10-686 8.19.10-1+2.6.12-10.24
[04:58] <leather_n_luv> the (hoary hedghog) live cd doesn't boot on a friends e-machine
[04:58] <BenUrban> ^^^ none of those match my kernel...
[04:59] <Madpilot> vid21: no idea; my floppy drive has worked the one time I've bothered using it...
[04:59] <jmhodges> silly question, i've installed a package that had a missing dependency (theres an equivalent one on this system, but the package didnt know that) and now synaptic wont install new pacakges until i fix the "broken" one.. other than uninstalling the package everytime i change my system, what are my options?
[04:59] <ejofee> nickrud: which password was it asking for?!
[04:59] <nickrud> ejofee, mine, for sudo
[05:00] <ejofee> nickrud: ohh
[05:00] <leather_n_luv> does anyone here have an E-MACHINE with SATA?
[05:00] <vid21> Madpilot:  wierdness!  I guess I'll just have to figure out what the issue is...  a lot of people are having issues with it on ubuntuforums from what I gather.
[05:00] <aTypical> How do you know what version of ubuntu you're running?
[05:00] <ejofee> nickrud: i thought ubuntu automatically sets up gpg :(
[05:00] <mark105> how does one config ubuntu from the console?
[05:00] <Isilando> jmhodges, i don't know how you managed to install something with missing dependencies, but i don't think there are any other options that removing the broken package :/
[05:00] <ejofee> nickrud: i have no clue as to how i could set it up
[05:01] <nomin> can someone tell me what I've done wrong while trying to add an app to the applications menu?  Here is the pastebin: http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=5702
[05:01] <Madpilot> mark105: that's going to depend on what you're doing...
[05:01] <bimberi> jmhodges: was it skype perchance?
[05:01] <mark105> Madpilot: network settings
[05:01] <jmhodges> bimberi, nope
[05:01] <sethk> jmhodges, there are some dpkg commands to try to fix a system in a state like the one you describe.
[05:01] <NCLife> um, whenever i open firefox i get an alert saying "the file /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html cannot be found. Please check the location and try again" how can i find the location o quit that messag from apearing?
[05:01] <jmhodges> Isilando, i just did a dpkg -i --force-depends
[05:01] <nickrud> ejofee, and I am not the one to walk you through it. I barely get it to the point where I can verify packages, let alone explain what's going on (one more thing on my to do list in the next month)
[05:02] <jmhodges> sethk, hmm.. ok
[05:02] <leather_n_luv> does any one here have a system without a floppy drive?
[05:02] <sethk> leather_n_luv, I have four of them, yes.
[05:02] <ejofee> nickrud: and why don't i have the ubuntu-get-key command?
[05:02] <dooglus> leather_n_luv: I do
[05:02] <nickrud> ejofee, that's the script I posted, I just liked that name :)
[05:02] <leather_n_luv> does 5.04 live cd boot on them?
[05:03] <Madpilot> mark105: hmm, not something I've had to do from terminal. Sorry
[05:03] <leather_n_luv> dooglus, do you have SATA-hdd's?
[05:03] <dooglus> leather_n_luv: yes
[05:03] <dooglus> leather_n_luv: how can I tell?
[05:03] <Killer_Smurf> is there anything I have to do If I'm going to change the amount of memory o my laptop?
[05:03] <Killer_Smurf> *on
[05:03] <ejofee> nickrud: ohh :)
[05:03] <nickrud> does someone want to help ejofee get gpg set up for getting repository keys?
[05:04] <Isilando> (it is PGP)
[05:04] <leather_n_luv> dooglus, there is a tiny little cable from hda to the mobo
[05:04] <jmhodges> sethk, im not seeing anything in manpage..
[05:04] <ejofee> !gpg
[05:04] <ubotu> it has been said that gpg is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey or http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/8746
[05:04] <dooglus> leather_n_luv: it's a laptop.  I've not opened it.
[05:04] <jmhodges> --hold just makes synaptic yell and refuse to do anythingheh
[05:04] <nickrud> :P that's one dead giveaway I'm not the one for this, lol
[05:04] <leather_n_luv> dooglus: lol, just my luck!
[05:04] <ejofee> nickrud: thank you very much
[05:05] <sethk> jmhodges, it might be another one of the apt family of functions.  Google for it, say debian and package database and corruption
[05:05] <nickrud> ejofee, np, I hope I at least got you onto the right track
[05:05] <Killer_Smurf> is there anything I have to do If I'm going to change the amount of memory on my laptop?
[05:06] <Killer_Smurf> I tried going from 2x256 to 2x512 and no good.  It hangs on acpi
[05:06] <bur[n] er_> Killer_Smurf: just pop it in
[05:06] <carthik> Killer_Smurf, nah, just plug it in, if it is more than 1gig, start using a -686 kernel
[05:07] <carthik> Killer_Smurf, check if they are both "seated" well
[05:07] <BenUrban> dooglus: you do not have a sata hd unless you know you have one
[05:07] <vid21> sounds like the board can't handle 512 chips?
[05:07] <Killer_Smurf> carthik they were..... If I try using 1 256 and 1 512 it's ng either
[05:07] <ejofee> nickrud: you surely did so, since it was working for you... i just have to set up my gpg (i wonder why ubuntu doesn't set it up automatically).
[05:07] <dooglus> BenUrban: OK
[05:08] <bur[n] er_> Killer_Smurf: how about 1 512...  u sure your machine can handle 512 sticks?
[05:08] <BenUrban> sata tends to cost a lot more than pata
[05:08] <ejofee> btw, how do i stop ubuntu loading ntp on startup?
[05:08] <bur[n] er_> www.crucial.com helps Killer_Smurf
[05:08] <dooglus> ejofee: I never had to set up any gpg
[05:08] <BenUrban> what's the package name for the linux kernel?
[05:08] <Killer_Smurf> bur[n] er_ Thanks
[05:08] <dooglus> BenUrban: 'linux'
[05:09] <BenUrban> ejofee: System->Administration->Services
[05:09] <BenUrban> thanks dooglus
[05:09] <dooglus> BenUrban: 'linux' is a meta-package, but it's probably what you want
[05:09] <dooglus> BenUrban: or 'linux-686'
[05:09] <BenUrban> i want to see what kernels are available
[05:09] <BenUrban> since i can't downgrade fglrx
[05:09] <BenUrban> i need to upgrademy kernel
[05:10] <leather_n_luv> dooglus: do you know of any friends with SATA hard drives that have tried the live cd?
[05:10] <nickrud> ejofee, it won't set it up because the config goes in your home dir; if I remember correctly (I've been sorta thinking) I just ran gpg once, then enabled a key server in .gnupg/gnupg.conf
[05:10] <nomin> does anyone know what this means: 'OSError: [Errno 13]  Permission denied:'
[05:10] <dooglus> leather_n_luv: I don't know what a SATA drive is, sorry.
[05:11] <BenUrban> nomin: that's a python exception
[05:11] <leather_n_luv> damn damn damn! bbl...
[05:12] <BenUrban> nomin: what gave you that error?
[05:12] <dtrostis> Hey I came back to ask more questions
[05:13] <ejofee> nickrud: .gnupg/gnupg.conf -- in your home folder, right?
[05:13] <nomin> BenUrban, I'm trying to add an app to the applications menu.  Here's the pastebin: http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=5702
[05:13] <BenUrban> dtrostis: the answer is 42 again
[05:13] <nickrud> BenUrban, aptitude search ^linux-image should give you a list
[05:13] <ejofee> BenUrban: thank you
[05:13] <nickrud> ejofee, yes
[05:13] <dtrostis> wtf is 42?
[05:13] <nickrud> !42
[05:13] <ubotu> Wish i knew, nickrud
[05:13] <_jason> can the evdev driver be used for a mouse connected through the PS/2 port?
[05:13] <aTypical> dtrostis, it's the answer to life, the universe, and everything.
[05:13] <BenUrban> haha
[05:13] <ejofee> dooglus: you never had to setup gpg, but could import keys?
[05:13] <nickrud> ubotu used to know that
[05:13] <ubotu> nickrud: Are you on ritalin?
[05:13] <dtrostis> I want ot sahre my printer connected to linux with my other winxp machine
[05:13] <BenUrban> lmao
[05:14] <jesse_> owned
[05:14] <dooglus> ejofee: I don't think I had to import keys either.  they came pre-installed
[05:14] <BenUrban> dtrostis: i still say the answer is 42 :)
[05:14] <dtrostis> atypical, great! Nice to know there is something like that :)
[05:14] <dtrostis> share
[05:14] <nickrud> dooglus, he's looking for keys for extra repos
[05:14] <BenUrban> and the question is "WHATDOYOUGETWHENYOUMULTIPLYSIXBYNINE"
[05:14] <ejofee> nickrud: ok, then how do i run gpg in such a way that a config file would be created in my home folder (so that i could modify it)?
[05:14] <dtrostis> jesse_ how I share my printer?
[05:14] <dooglus> nickrud: oh, i see.  something other than main, universe, restricted and multiverse?
[05:15] <oxez> when I try to play a moviewith mplayer I get loads of errors like this: No bind found for key JOY_BTN1-JOY_BTN0
[05:15] <oxez> . They make the movie to choke, annoying. Anyone know how to fix it?
[05:15] <_jason> dtrostis, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=the+answer+to+life%2C+the+universe+and+everything&btnG=Google+Search
[05:15] <nickrud> ejofee, make sure it's installed (gnupg) then simply type gpg in a terminal
[05:15] <aTypical> dtrostis, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Answer_to_Life,_the_Universe,_and_Everything
[05:15] <BenUrban> heh
[05:15] <nickrud> dooglus, yeah, like riddell's kde (ugh:) 3.5 repo
[05:15] <ejofee> BenUrban: i have a very stupid k menu... how do i change it (using kde)? my menu is very simple and has only two levels
[05:15] <dtrostis> all right jokers, I need real help here
[05:15] <BenUrban> ejofee: no clue
[05:16] <aTypical> dtrostis, oh.  I missed the original question.
[05:16] <_jason> dtrostis, lol just trying to help you understand 42 :), I'd help you if I knew how
[05:16] <ElitePete> hm
[05:16] <dtrostis> I want to share my printer which is hooked to ubuntu with winxp in my other machine
[05:16] <ejofee> nickrud: now it is saying: "gpg: Go ahead and type your message ..."
[05:16] <bur[n] er_> dtrostis: so do it ;)
[05:17] <nickrud> ejofee, like I said earlier, I barely got it set up that far (I might have used seahorse :)
[05:17] <aTypical> dtrostis, never tried to do that.  Sorry.
[05:17] <ejofee> nickrud: installing seahorse
[05:17] <sethk> dtrostis, sharing the printer isn't difficult
[05:18] <dtrostis> sethk: how you do it. I'm very happy is not dificult
[05:18] <sethk> dtrostis, to make the printer visible to the xp box you set up samba
[05:19] <sethk> dtrostis, webadmin has a nice gui for setting it up.  There are some other admin programs as well.
[05:19] <sethk> dtrostis, you install the printer using CUPS first.
[05:19] <bimberi> dtrostis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[05:19] <sethk> dtrostis, two steps.  Install using CUPS to make the printer available to UNIX boxes, and then install samba support for the printer to make it visible to windows
[05:19] <ejofee> nickrud: i don't understand... what was this item of advice for ?: "use the NO_PUBKEY string as input"
[05:20] <ejofee> nickrud: what did it mean?
[05:20] <sethk> dtrostis, the wiki thing bimberi posted is a good place to start reading
[05:20] <dtrostis> bimberi I need the other way around
[05:20] <nickrud> ejofee, if you look at the warning you posted on the pastebin, it's the text following NO_PUBKEY
[05:21] <dragoon> how can i access a printer on a windows box with ubuntu
[05:21] <bimberi> dtrostis: oh, so your printer is on the XP box?
[05:21] <sethk> dragoon, to do that you also use samba
[05:21] <dragoon> ok
[05:21] <sethk> dragoon, in that case the samba client
[05:21] <dragoon> ok
[05:21] <nickrud> ejofee, I have a habit of learning just what I need to fix my current problem, and then forgetting it. Sometimes, I'll take notes, but usually not. generally, google has much better notes than the ones I'd write.
[05:21] <dragoon> so how would i go about setting it up
[05:22] <dtrostis> no, the printer is in the linux. I think the article you sent to me is when the printer is in the winxp
[05:22] <sethk> nickrud, I _always_ write notes.  Just a few lines of notes and a url or two takes very little time.
[05:22] <nickrud> sethk, then I gotta remember where I put them :)
[05:22] <sethk> dtrostis, you use samba to do it either way.  To make your linux printer available to windows, you set up the samba server
[05:22] <bimberi> dragoon: no, samba isn't needed, only smbclient which is already installed.  System -> Admin -> Printing, New Printer, Network Printer, Windows Printer
[05:22] <dtrostis> sethk: how do I do that?
[05:23] <nickrud> sethk, it usually takes me less time to google than to search a notebook
[05:23] <sethk> nickrud, you're on a computer.  You can search your own documents.  :)
[05:23] <dragoon> ok thans
[05:23] <dragoon> thanks
[05:23] <bimberi> dtrostis: read the page
[05:23] <sethk> dtrostis, have you installed the samba packages yet?
[05:23] <mebsd> there is "printing share for unix" options in windows xp, use that
[05:23] <nickrud> beagle, umm, (backups are nice too, I lost every note I ever had a while back ;(
[05:23] <dtrostis> Bimberi: it says network printing form xp
[05:23] <sethk> dtrostis, I believe the wiki article talks about doing it in both directions
[05:24] <bimberi> dtrostis: it's for printing from XP to an printer attached to ubuntu
[05:24] <dtrostis> I will check the article again
[05:24] <mebsd> you don't need samba to print to a windows printer
[05:24] <sethk> what mebsd  is another option; I've personally had much better success using samba, but that may be because I don't know much about xp (as little as possible).
[05:24] <Kuyaedz> to print to an XP printer just do the printer setup, and you should see the printer
[05:24] <sethk> mebsd, you don't need it, no, but that doesn't mean that it isn't a good way to do it.
[05:24] <dtrostis> I'm stupid enough to not understand, I will check the article and come back if I have questions, thanks
[05:25] <dtrostis> It's late long day @ work
[05:25] <ejofee> nickrud: what is the hkp protocol? then there is ldap... should i change hkp://pgp.mit.edu:11371 to something else?
[05:25] <mebsd> "Print Services for Unix" to be exact.. it's in windows xp components
[05:25] <mebsd> to print from windows to a unix printer.. you use samba
[05:25] <ejofee> nickrud: i guess i have to add a key server, right?
[05:25] <nickrud> ejofee, I use keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net
[05:25] <ejofee> nickrud: which one would you recommend?
[05:26] <sethk> mebsd, you can use samba either way.
[05:26] <dragoon> it doesnt have the driver for my printer there
[05:26] <sethk> mebsd, you have the option of not using samba in one direction, which means also that you have the option of using samba
[05:26] <mebsd> why not do it in a easier way
[05:26] <ejofee> nickrud: and can my machine access a hkp protocol?
[05:26] <sethk> mebsd, I don't find it easier.
[05:26] <nickrud> ejofee, yes
[05:26] <sethk> mebsd, I find samba extremely easy to set up.
[05:26] <mebsd> well, that windows xp combonent exist for a reason
[05:27] <ejofee> nickrud: what port?
[05:27] <sethk> mebsd, and samba exists for a reason
[05:27] <ejofee> nickrud: i *have to* add it
[05:27] <nickrud> ejofee, just that line 'keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net' on a line
[05:27] <sethk> mebsd, there is no overpowering reason to use one method or the other.
[05:27] <ejofee> nickrud: it has "ok" disabled, unless i add a port :(
[05:28] <nickrud> ejofee, that's beyond me. I have no port mentioned anywhere in my config. That wiki page probably knows a lot more than I.
[05:28] <ejofee> nickrud: i added it as custom
[05:29] <ejofee> nickrud: yet, same error
[05:29] <ejofee> nickrud: maybe i should erase the other options
[05:31] <ejofee> nickrud: did your script take long to run? my seahorse is working and working...
[05:31] <Autumn> Hello
[05:31] <nickrud> ejofee, a few seconds
[05:32] <Hobbsee> ejofee: nalioth is good at gpg stuff...
[05:32] <nickrud> ejofee, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5813
[05:32] <nickrud> gotta get with nalioth so he can teach me, and sign my key :)
[05:33] <Hobbsee> nickrud: he's around....
[05:33] <nickrud> Hobbsee, he's always lurking in the undergrowth :)
[05:33] <Hobbsee> lol yeah
[05:34] <nickrud> probably at work at this time of night
[05:34] <ejofee> nickrud: i imported it!!!
[05:34] <ejofee> nickrud: thank you a lot
[05:34] <joe_> i still cant edit my repositories thru synaptic manager. can anyone help me?
[05:34] <zhx> anybody running vlc?
[05:34] <nickrud> ejofee, good. You just needed a little moral support :)
[05:35] <ejofee> Hobbsee: thank you... because i want to know more about gpg anyway
[05:35] <ejofee> nickrud: right :)
[05:35] <Hobbsee> no problems
[05:36] <nickrud> I'm going out for a cigarette.
[05:36] <leather_n_luv> anyone here have a compaq presario?
[05:36] <ejofee> nickrud: does this mean something bad: "gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found"
[05:36] <qt2> leather_n_luv, i have an extremely extremly old one.
[05:37] <nickrud> ejofee, no, that means that the key you imported does not have a trusted trail to you. google pgp web of trust
[05:37] <qt2> err, would anyone bei kind enough to poing me to a guide on how to make ubuntu compatible deb files?
[05:37] <joe_> i still cant edit my repositories thru synaptic manager. can anyone help me?
[05:37] <leather_n_luv> qt2, you have a floppy and regular ATA hda?
[05:37] <ejofee> nickrud: however, the second key didn't produce the same "error" (or whatever)
[05:38] <qt2> leather_n_luv, the other computer does, yes.
[05:38] <ejofee> nickrud: (koti)
[05:38] <burnhamd> im about to buy a new lcd and wanted to know if ubuntu worked well with 1440x900 screen resolution
[05:38] <ejofee> nickrud: it seems... kubuntu is not trustworthy :)
[05:38] <leather_n_luv> qt2: does the one you use now?
[05:38] <qt2> leather_n_luv, no floppy.
[05:38] <bimberi> joe_: what isn't working
[05:38] <leather_n_luv> qt2: do you have SATA or ATA?
[05:38] <bimberi> ?
[05:39] <ejofee> nickrud: seveas is not "trustworthy" either
[05:39] <qt2> leather_n_luv, both computers have ata.
[05:39] <ejofee> nickrud: and neither is cipherfunk
[05:39] <leather_n_luv> qt2: can you boot the live cd?
[05:40] <leather_n_luv> qt2: 5.04?
[05:40] <ejofee> what is koti.mbnet.fi
[05:40] <qt2> leather_n_luv, why would you want to boot the 5.04 livecd?
[05:40] <leather_n_luv> qt2: that's the one i have
[05:40] <qt2> i reccomend getting the 5.10 livecd if it's out.
[05:40] <qt2> before you do anything.
[05:40] <joe_> bimberi, i go to synaptic and try to edit my repoisotries as it says in the starter guide and they always go back to default
[05:41] <carthik> Any xbindkeys users here?
[05:41] <leather_n_luv> qt2: yeah, but i have dial up
[05:41] <qt2> leather_n_luv, i havent tried the livecd's on the presario anyway, but i know both hoary and breezy instlled correctly on it.
[05:41] <zhx> i was curious if anybody has had any problems with audio in vlc
[05:41] <n3v3r49073n> i am
[05:41] <dabaR> joe_: are you trying to add something community supported like universe or multiverse?
[05:41] <ejofee> now another one: "W: Conflicting distribution: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release (expected breezy-seveas but got ubuntu-seveas)"
[05:41] <carthik> joe_, edit the /etc/apt/sources.list manually : $sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list -- and save it later
[05:41] <Villa> hi
[05:42] <ejofee> i am sick of synaptic warnings... i want to feel the... harmony of its working just right
[05:42] <n3v3r49073n> i get no audio in vlc and it just shows the mute icon and can't change it
[05:42] <leather_n_luv> qt2: i will try to dl the 5.10
[05:42] <Villa> MY firefox menubar is unreadable
[05:42] <Villa> IT is all scrambled
[05:42] <Villa> What may this be?
[05:42] <n3v3r49073n> which to Opera ;)
[05:42] <joe_> bimberi, i did but the three i am supposed to edit won't edit
[05:42] <dooglus> ejofee: can't you use the official repositories instead of these 3rd party ones?
[05:42] <dabaR> Villa: take a screenshot, and post to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:42] <n3v3r49073n> switch*
[05:42] <leather_n_luv> qt2: trying to do a favor for a friend on their computer
[05:42] <zhx> n3v3r49073n, but your audio works in other programs?
[05:42] <n3v3r49073n> ya
[05:42] <qt2> leather_n_luv, ah, i see.
[05:42] <qt2> leather_n_luv, you could always order a cd...
[05:42] <leather_n_luv> qt2: (get rid of windoze)
[05:43] <_jason> n3v3r49073n, maybe you can set the output to esd (if you use that)
[05:43] <n3v3r49073n> works in helix player fine
[05:43] <bimberi> joe_: paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:43] <mebsd> opera .. sux
[05:43] <dooglus> leather_n_luv: the live cds can't be used to install anything.
[05:43] <ejofee> dooglus: the official ones don't include seveas... and seveas has something that i need :(
[05:43] <n3v3r49073n> what is "esd" i haven't heard of it
[05:43] <ejofee> n3v3r49073n: a sound system
[05:43] <dooglus> ejofee: ok, if you're sure
[05:43] <leather_n_luv> dooglus, i only have the 5.04 cd's 'cause i got them from the local 'puter store
[05:44] <leather_n_luv> dooglus, but i have the install cd too
[05:44] <dooglus> leather_n_luv: you can download 5.10 cd's - or get them mailed to you for free from shipit
[05:44] <_jason> n3v3r49073n, esd is the default sound daemon for gnome, go to settings -> prefs -> audo ->output modules (also make sure 'enable audo' is checked in the 'audo' parent section
[05:44] <ElitePete> can anyone help me with a small vmware issue?
[05:44] <dooglus> !shipit
[05:44] <ubuntu_> hello...  i am trying to install ubuntu on my friends computer
[05:44] <ubuntu_> its a laptop
[05:44] <nickrud> ejofee, now that we've done all that, I just did the import thing as an exercise; generally I just ignore those sign warnings :)
[05:44] <ubuntu_> im using the live cd right now and its running fine
[05:44] <PorcupineTree> here it is... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i5814
[05:44] <_jason> n3v3r49073n, replace all those audo's with audio's
[05:44] <ubuntu_> but for some reason the install freezes
[05:45] <leather_n_luv> !shipit
[05:45] <zhx> n3v3r49073n, see my volume isnt muted
[05:45] <zhx> but still no audio
[05:45] <ubuntu_> on the part where its trying to detect some APATI Cd something
[05:45] <ubuntu_> it freezes
[05:45] <ubuntu_> anyone know what to do?
[05:45] <_jason> PorcupineTree, wow that's strange, was it always like this?
[05:45] <PorcupineTree> yes
[05:45] <ejofee> nickrud :)
[05:45] <PorcupineTree> I have been using Gallion instead
[05:46] <PorcupineTree> I wanted to go ahead with firefox
[05:46] <PorcupineTree> Galeon
[05:46] <_jason> PorcupineTree, run firefox in a terminal and see if you get any errors
[05:46] <Kuyaedz> anyone suggest an app that monitors network usage (ie; top, but for network)
[05:46] <ejofee> nickrud: i did ignore them, too, but then i thought... "what the hell?!" -- this sounded like a good enough reason for me to try to solve the problem :))
[05:46] <PorcupineTree>  Failed to set up default extensions files probably bec ause you do not have write privileges to this location. While you can run Firefo x like this, it is recommended that you run it at least once with privileges tha t allow it to generate these initial files to improve start performance. Running  from a disk image on MacOS X is not recommended.
[05:46] <nickrud> heh
[05:47] <dabaR> OK, that is a seriously strange firefox instance.
[05:47] <jiangguowei> a
[05:47] <ubotu> shipit is, like, For free ubuntu CDs, visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[05:47] <n3v3r49073n> thanks i'm going to look for that
[05:47] <bshumate> Kuyaedz: ntop ;-)
[05:47] <PorcupineTree> should i sudo firefox?
[05:47] <nickrud> but a big clue: PorcupineTree did you use the ubuntu repos?
[05:47] <ElitePete> can anyone help me with a small vmware issue?
[05:47] <PorcupineTree> I jused a ubuntu breezy cd iso
[05:48] <ejofee> nickrud: anyway, when it says: "http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release (expected breezy-seveas but got ubuntu-seveas)",
[05:48] <Toma-> ElitePete: dunno.
[05:48] <ejofee> nickrud: should i simply replace "breezy-seveas" with "ubuntu-seveas" in my etc/apt sources file?
[05:48] <_jason> PorcupineTree, maybe you can just delete the ~/.mozilla folder and see if it recreates it, close firefox first
[05:49] <Toma-> ejofee: look at the page from that repo. it says it is ubuntu-seveas now
[05:49] <ElitePete> Toma-, when i try to run starcraft on vmware the screen is pushed up making some things not viewable i have tried all the video settings i can find...
[05:50] <Toma-> ElitePete: because vmware isnt for games.
[05:50] <Toma-> you wont get anything that uses directx to run in vmware
[05:50] <mebsd> just run windows, don't be ashame
[05:50] <ElitePete> Toma-, it runs... fine just need to fix the position.
[05:50] <ejofee> Toma-: so i simply do what i said, right? (replace)
[05:51] <mebsd> you know you want it
[05:51] <Toma-> ElitePete: i hear starcraft runs perfect on wine
[05:51] <Toma-> ejofee: looks like it
[05:51] <Toma-> ElitePete: also runs with less resources in wine >_>
[05:51] <ejofee> Toma-: thank you
[05:51] <PorcupineTree> can I reinstrall ubuntu fron the net
[05:51] <PorcupineTree> since I can currently boot it?
[05:51] <_jason> PorcupineTree, didn't work?
[05:52] <PorcupineTree> not
[05:52] <zhx> hmm, anybody got a min or two to help me with this vlc audio issue?
[05:52] <PorcupineTree> no
[05:52] <PorcupineTree> now it is giving me a big xml parsing error window
[05:52] <PorcupineTree> hehe
[05:52] <_jason> PorcupineTree, just reinstall the firefox package
[05:52] <ejofee> Toma-: (btw, i wonder, is "toma" a romanian name only, or is it used in some other countries, too?)
[05:52] <PorcupineTree> ok
[05:52] <Toma-> ejofee: just a nickname a mate gave me :D im australian
[05:52] <ElitePete> Toma-, how do i set it up for wine?
[05:52] <ejofee> Toma-: oh, ok :)
[05:53] <luisito> yellow!!!
[05:53] <dragoon> yay - another aussie
[05:53] <PorcupineTree> can I do a reinstall of firefox?
[05:53] <Toma-> ElitePete: http://koti.mbnet.fi/hoppq/sc-howto.html
[05:53] <PorcupineTree> removing it wants to get rid of all sorts of packages
[05:53] <luisito> it's firefox 1.5 available for ubuntu?
[05:54] <_jason> PorcupineTree, yeah try just reinstalling
[05:54] <Toma-> also ElitePete http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=starcraft
[05:54] <wuming> which software package can tell me the temprature of CPU?
[05:54] <nickrud> PorcupineTree, sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox would work
[05:54] <nickrud> !firefox15
[05:54] <ubotu> it has been said that firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[05:54] <tiglionabbit> What controls CPU throttling on ubuntu?
[05:55] <ejofee> nickrud: how come they changed the name right after i solved the other problem? i think there's some conspiration
[05:55] <ejofee> nickrud: (now everything is ok... no warnings at all)
[05:56] <Plugh> wuming: Not sure but there is a package called lmsensors that may be what you want
[05:56] <nickrud> ejofee, I don't use outside repos, because they are so new (and in flux). They'll settle down soon, I hope.
[05:57] <nickrud> ejofee, I'll wait till all you first adopters have thrashed out the bugs :)
[05:57] <wuming> Plugh: lmsensor seems not in ubuntu
[05:57] <joe_> bimberi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5815
[05:57] <ejofee> which xorg does ubuntu use (or how do i find out)
[05:57] <Toma-> ooo wow... just found out photoshop 7 runs on wine
[05:57] <PorcupineTree> photoshop?
[05:57] <PorcupineTree> use gimp
[05:58] <Plugh> You using it professionally, Toma?
[05:58] <ejofee> nickrud: i have no choice... there are some apps which ubuntu doesn't want to support (like freenx, which is important for me; also silc... which i find nowhere)
[05:58] <Toma-> PorcupineTree: yes yes. gimp isnt like photoshop tho
[05:58] <_jason> Is it possible to use the evdev protocol for a mouse connected through the PS/2 port?  (and will it work the same as if it were attached by usb)
[05:58] <Toma-> Plugh: nah, but some mates were not migrating to linux because he needs photoshop for work
[05:58] <Plugh> wuming: Check the packages in synaptic. It may be listed as lm-sensors
[05:58] <nickrud> ejofee, like I said, first adopters
[05:58] <frogzoo> ejofee: /etc/X11/xorg.config
[05:58] <PorcupineTree> Yes I know it is better
[05:58] <ElitePete> Toma-, installed fine but when i go to play it, it tells me can't find cd..
[05:58] <PorcupineTree> sorry
[05:58] <ejofee> nickrud :)
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> Can samba be used on an ad-hoc wireless network, and if so, is there something special I need to know to do so?
[05:59] <Toma-> ElitePete: have you setup the cdrom path for wine yet?
[05:59] <ejofee> frogzoo: that's where i looked first: no info on the version
[05:59] <ElitePete> Toma-, how do i do that.
[05:59] <RedRose> J/w, is there a program that will allow me to host a chat with-in my website?
[05:59] <RedRose> like flashchat?
[05:59] <oblib> How do I get nvidia module to suspend?
[05:59] <nickrud> ejofee, head /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:00] <Toma-> ElitePete: try looking at ~/.wine/config
[06:00] <ilba7r> just a curious question did mozilla.com discountinue mozilla web suite in favour of firefox or they are still two sepearte products?
[06:00] <Toma-> i havent got wine myself :( never needed it
[06:00] <Plugh> tonyyarusso: Should be possible but could be dangerous
[06:00] <mkyb14_> don't use wine, cedega is better
[06:00] <nickrud> wine belongs in a bottle, or me
[06:00] <cyphase> woohoo!!!
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> ilba7r: I believe they still exist as separate products, but the suite is no longer being developed.
[06:01] <ElitePete> Toma-, it's empty ..?
[06:01] <cyphase> with an nVidia FX 5200
[06:01] <dabaR> Toma-: I got it recently, it runs putty. Hey, I like that picture from your leave message. the haha one:)
[06:01] <Dido-> mk500, where can i find cedega for download
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> Plugh: I only want to do so temporarily, in an environment where I'm not too worried about other people trying anything fishy.
[06:01] <Toma-> ElitePete: have you run it yet? and/or winesetup ?
[06:01] <bimberi> joe_: that looks ok, but just in case it's an issue with the ordering of repositories in the file try changing it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2325
[06:01] <mkyb14_> mininova.org
[06:01] <Toma-> dabaR: hehe :D
[06:01] <ElitePete> i've run wine yea
[06:01] <ejofee> nickrud: thank you (again!) :)
[06:01] <ElitePete> winesetup? no
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> Plugh: I'm trying to transfer files between my computer and my roommate's.
[06:01] <reikon> um...i got a cd stuck in my drive..that won't eject...supposedly it's not mounted either and i can't access it...anyone got any suggestions?
[06:01] <hardbop200> Dido - google "index of" cedega
[06:01] <ilba7r> thanx tonyyarusso
[06:01] <hardbop200> easy
[06:01] <frogzoo> ejofee: /var/log/Xorg.0.log     ?
[06:01] <mkyb14_> use wine for basic apps. cedega for 2-3d apps
[06:02] <Toma-> mkyb14: actually, wine can run alot of games like WoW and such
[06:02] <ejofee> frogzoo: yes, nickrud already pointed it to me
[06:02] <dragoon> how do i extract .debs
[06:02] <ejofee> frogzoo: thanks
[06:02] <ElitePete> Toma-, how do i set the wine cdrom?
[06:02] <nickrud> dragoon, dpkg -x
[06:02] <mkyb14_> yes but it's not as good at rendering as cedega is.  there's a noticable difference between them
[06:02] <Toma-> ElitePete: im not sure :(
[06:02] <dabaR> dragoon: extract them from where?
[06:02] <mkyb14_> the problem is getting them both to run initially
[06:02] <cafuego> dragoon: Normally you don't. What are you wanting to do?
[06:03] <Kuyaedz> ok I got ntop but it wont run.  error here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5816
[06:03] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me how to set wine cd-drive?
[06:03] <dragoon> looking for a driver - i know perfectly what im doing
[06:03] <joe_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5815 anyone?
[06:03] <ElitePete> Toma-, found it winecfg
[06:03] <Toma-> ahh :D
[06:03] <ejofee> nickrud: ohh, i could have taken a look at the package name... i am so crazy sometimes.
[06:04] <Plugh> tonyyarusso: You could also allow file transfers via ftp if you run an ftp server on one of the machines.
[06:04] <nickrud> ejofee, but the xorg log tells you so much more :)
[06:04] <dabaR> joe_: is your issue with those repositories?
[06:04] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, you still working on that samba setup?
[06:04] <mkyb14_> is there a way to reset my network drivers or files... i can't get ubuntu to see my windows network.
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> Plugh: I don't, nor do I know how to.
[06:04] <ejofee> nickrud :))
[06:04] <nickrud> dabaR, sucked in one more time?
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Yes indeed I am.
[06:05] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, any progress....?
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Good to see you again.
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Not really.
[06:05] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, you too.
[06:05] <joe_> yes
[06:05] <Toma-> ElitePete: try using wine for windows stuff. it might be perfect, but vmware is a hell of alot worse. also check out http://appdb.winehq.org/ for more stuff you can run and some howtos on various things
[06:05] <ElitePete> Toma-, i still don't see how to set which drive  wine looks for..
[06:05] <frogzoo> ElitePete: under "drives"
[06:05] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, you want to pm me and try to give Samba a whirl?
[06:05] <ElitePete> Toma-, vmware works fine foreverything but sc
[06:05] <joe_> dabaR, yes
[06:05] <ElitePete> frogzoo, i'm their but i don't see how to make it the default cd-rom
[06:05] <Plugh> tonyyarusso: If you really want to use Samba and are having problems, you can configure Samba using SWAT. You also need to check the firewall settings of the windows machine, your Linux machine, and the router.
[06:05] <dabaR> joe_: it looks like you are trying to get security updates for universe, which I dont think exists. Show us the error in another pastebin.
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Sure.
[06:06] <Toma-> ElitePete: theyll run faster on wine
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> Plugh: I tried getting at SWAT before and got some kind of error.
[06:06] <cafuego> vmware also requires a windows licence. wine does not.
[06:06] <frogzoo> ElitePete: default cd? sounds like an app config setting 2 me...
[06:06] <luisito> I invite anyone to see this Linus Torvalds message: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html
[06:07] <techrush> ok i saw the message now what
[06:07] <luisito> he's against gnome
[06:07] <ejofee> according to which rules (and how do i set it up) does synaptic download more than one package at a time?
[06:07] <techrush> should i switch to kde?
[06:07] <frogzoo> luisito: Linux has his head up his axe - not the first time neither
[06:07] <nickrud> luisito, old news, you can see some responses on planet.gnome.org
[06:07] <_jason> luisito, offtopic
[06:07] <frogzoo> *Linus*
[06:07] <dabaR> luisito: is that the message where he says that gnome devs act like they think their users are stupid?
[06:07] <Toma-> luisito: wow. looks like god.. err linux wants us all to move to kde. looks like im a heathen then! :D~
[06:07] <ejofee> luisito: yes, and he is using stupid arguments, same as the gnome-supporters
[06:08] <cafuego> dabaR: yes, glad that Linux devs never do that - or use say proprietary versioning software...
[06:08] <luisito> I think he's a little crazy
[06:08] <ejofee> luisito: they simply don't know how to put it
[06:08] <dabaR> haha]
[06:08] <ejofee> luisito: i know the best way to put it! ( :) )
[06:08] <Toma-> s/linux/linus
[06:08] <ejofee> luisito: if gnome want to protect new users from clutter, they can simply hide features, not disable them. this is what linus torvalds should have said.
[06:08] <dabaR> cafuego: well, Im reading a book, the moody Rebel Code book, and it seems things are not always as simple as 1-2-3, so pragmatic approaches need to be taken.
[06:09] <mkyb14> ok tough question here.  i need an output plugin for xmms or other that outputs what's playing to a file for the website
[06:09] <ejofee> luisito: but it seems he was a little too personal for being capable for rational arguments
[06:09] <cafuego> ejofee: Users are free to not use Gnome if they find it doesn't suit their needs.
[06:09] <dabaR> joe_: are you gonna post the error?
[06:09] <ElitePete> Toma-, i got sc to run but i had the same problem a black bar at the bottom..
[06:09] <PorcupineTree> FireFox Works Great now
[06:09] <PorcupineTree> thanks guys!!
[06:09] <dabaR> good work.
[06:09] <luisito> that's what I think, cafuego
[06:09] <nickrud> the switch from 1.4 to 2.0 in gnome was drastic, but the end result seems nice, imho
[06:09] <Toma-> ElitePete: sounds like a screen resolution problem?
[06:10] <cafuego> !test
[06:10] <ubotu> Stop poking me!
[06:10] <ElitePete> Toma-, whats the problem then?
[06:10] <luisito> anyone can use what fits best for him/her
[06:10] <Toma-> try setting the starcraft resolution higher?
[06:10] <ElitePete> how do i do that..?
[06:10] <dabaR> ya, and hear what someone else has to say, and think about it, and discuss it with others on #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:11] <techrush> yes and linus can advise people to use what he feels is best also
[06:11] <techrush> its free
[06:11] <Toma-> http://entertainment.tv.yahoo.com/news/wwn/20051209/113414040002.html <<<off-topic, but this is the funniest thing ever :D
[06:11] <ilba7r> tonyyarusso the latest mozilla release is 1.7.12 september 21,2005 i think it is still in production to support netscape
[06:11] <cafuego> techrush: Yes, but he would do well do advise people without resorting to flaming like a 12-year old child.
[06:11] <Toma-> ElitePete: i dunno. Menu > Visuals >Resolution? i dont play the game
[06:11] <nickrud> Toma-, thank you
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> ilba7r: Well then, good to know.  But they're still advocating moving to Firefox and Thunderbird, right?
[06:11] <madmax__> which paquet provides X11 fonts ?
[06:12] <frogzoo> techrush: but when Linus makes silly arguments, it diminishes the reputation of Linux generally
[06:12] <techrush> no it doesnt
[06:12] <ejofee> techrush: i prefer kde, but linus' arguments are idiotic. actually, nobody should be forced to be intelligent, just because linus says so. if he was intelligent enought to get other people work for his glory, let it stay so.
[06:12] <dabaR> tonyyarusso: depending on what you want. If they wanted only fx and tb they would then just make those products, and not develop the mozilla.
[06:12] <M_Cheevy> heya folks.. gotta small problem with the root account..  for a while I had a password set on the thing (stupid I know, old habits die hard)... I've gone into a console mode and done "passwd -d root" and it's cleared, now when I do a console login as root, I'm in no problems, however now as a user, if I try to sudo anything it prompts me for a pw and won't accept a blank pw as valid,  how do I fix this?
[06:13] <Toma-> isnt it just his opinion? who cares? he's just a normal person with a normal opinion on kde vs gnome like everyone else
[06:13] <ilba7r> tonyyarusso yah. I was just checking to see why plugins work much better under mozilla than firefox
[06:13] <dabaR> M_Cheevy: use that user's password, afaik.
[06:13] <cafuego> Toma-: Because of his position, he might be better off pointing that out explicitly then.
[06:13] <ejofee> Toma-: many people care. and i care because many people care. that's the only reason.
[06:13] <madmax__> pliz i'am installing ubuntu for the fist time and throuht PXE lol
[06:13] <M_Cheevy> dabaR: nope, no go
[06:14] <cafuego> dabaR: Go to bed
[06:14] <Toma-> its not like Gates has said he prefers gnome or something :D
[06:14] <ejofee> Toma- :))
[06:14] <ejofee> Toma-: i'd like to hear gates say that
[06:14] <frogzoo> Gates prefers SCO :p
[06:14] <nickrud> linus is still the 800 pound gorilla in this world, look at how we talk about his opinion
[06:14] <cafuego> Toma-: No, but imagine what windows users would say IF he did.
[06:14] <Toma-> frogzoo: hehe
[06:14] <dabaR> M_Cheevy: well, then, try "cat /etc/sudoers" as root.
[06:14] <hardbop200> frogzoo:  lol
[06:14] <ejofee> frogzoo: no, gates prefers wine
[06:15] <ejofee> frogzoo: (especially non-alcoholic wine)
[06:15] <dabaR> M_Cheevy: and then see whether you are in that file as a sudoer.
[06:15] <dabaR> ejofee: funny.
[06:15] <cafuego> I have a word for non-alcoholic wine
[06:15] <Toma-> oh the joy. i wonder if many people use KDE in windows...
[06:15] <M_Cheevy> dabaR: add myself if not...
[06:15] <ejofee> cafuego: what's that word?
[06:15] <`Grue> isn't that grape juice?
[06:15] <frogzoo> ejofee: actually, Gates hates wine - they're doing everything in Vista to make wine 64 bit very difficult I suspect
[06:15] <rabeldable> can you guys take the kde gnome stuff to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[06:15] <cafuego> ejofee: "water"
[06:15] <nickrud> M_Cheevy, are you on breezy or hoary?
[06:15] <ejofee> cafuego :))
[06:15] <_jason> cafuego, wouldn't it be grape juice?
[06:16] <cafuego> _jason: go with the floqw
[06:16] <_jason> cafuego, oh ok
[06:16] <M_Cheevy> nickrud: breezy... via debootstrap... his suggestion worked
[06:17] <nickrud> M_Cheevy, ok, it's just that the admin group should be in sudoers & you in admin (per ubuntu policy, that is)
[06:17] <yubimusubi> Hey, I'm back...
[06:17] <Toma-> oh no
[06:17] <yubimusubi> You remember how I couldn't get ubuntu to recognize my SATA?
[06:17] <M_Cheevy> nickrud: only one in there was root, happy to do it via the group and not the user.... just change username to "admin"?
[06:17] <frogzoo> hot damn qemu's come a long way
[06:17] <M_Cheevy> yubimusubi: yes?
[06:17] <nickrud> M_Cheevy, I'll post the standard sudoers, a sec
[06:18] <yubimusubi> Well it turns out the thing stopping it was my shoddy manual overclocking to my CPU, heheh
[06:18] <M_Cheevy> yubimusubi: "d'oh!"
[06:18] <yubimusubi> I oc'd it 40 MHz more than it can handle...so I have a 1.8 instead of a 1.84, heheh
[06:19] <nickrud> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5818 M_Cheevy , and add yourself to group admin
[06:19] <Toma-> yubimusubi: why so little :D
[06:19] <ElitePete> Toma-, whenever i try to get on battle.net it doesn't work..
[06:19] <yubimusubi> Toma-: Because the mobo I got can't handle oc-ing it to 2.4 :P
[06:19] <yubimusubi> I bought from newegg...
[06:20] <cafuego> 2% just isn't worth it.
[06:20] <Toma-> ElitePete: like is aid, i dont play the game
[06:20] <yubimusubi> Toma-: it's a 64 bit anyway, so 1.8 ain't too shabby
[06:20] <cafuego> Spend your money on a safter cpu and don't half-ass around.
[06:20] <ElitePete> Toma-, yea im giving up
[06:20] <Toma-> :(
[06:20] <ElitePete> Toma-, i can play it in window mode on vmware ok :\
[06:20] <yubimusubi> Of course windoze sees it as just another processor...
[06:20] <yubimusubi> cafuego: It was a budget PC
[06:21] <M_Cheevy> nickrud: much obliged!
[06:21] <yubimusubi> The only thing semi good is the 128 MB gfx card and the 512 RAM
[06:23] <ejofee> according to which rules (and how do i set it up) does synaptic download more than one package at a time?
[06:23] <cafuego> yubimusubi:So is mine. Just buy quality components and stick it together manually.
[06:23] <yubimusubi> cafuego: Yea, I have pretty damn good comp for under $500
[06:24] <yubimusubi> Now if I can convince my dad to move from Quickbooks to, for instance, GNUCash, so he can completely ditch win$uck
[06:24] <frogzoo> yubimusubi: try qemu mebbe...
[06:25] <mneumonic> can someone help me with ubuntu plz
[06:25] <yubimusubi> I get tired of adminestering BSOD's
[06:25] <yubimusubi> frogzoo: qemu? is that like QB?
[06:25] <yubimusubi> mneumonic: what's the prob?
[06:25] <mneumonic> i just installed it on laptop but when i reboot it still goes to win 98
[06:25] <frogzoo> yubimusubi: it's a GPL emulator - same thing as vmware but free
[06:25] <yubimusubi> mneumonic: Did you install grub?
[06:25] <yubimusubi> frogzoo: Well why don't I just use wine? or cxoffice?
[06:26] <rabeldable> mneumonic: are you trying to dual boot?
[06:26] <mneumonic> erm i dont know i just used the install disk and it ran
[06:26] <yubimusubi> Will they not work as well? ...I'll google it
[06:26] <mneumonic> no i dont want dual boot
[06:26] <cafuego> yubimusubi: Quickbooks probably runs fine in crossover office
[06:26] <cafuego> Yep, it says it's supported.
[06:26] <rabeldable> mneumonic: what cd do you have?
[06:26] <frogzoo> yubimusubi: wine compatabilities not perfect - otherwise, I'd run wine too
[06:26] <Siph0n> what program can burn a VIDEO_TS folder?
[06:26] <cafuego> yubimusubi: cxoffice is not free, but will work.
[06:26] <yubimusubi> mneumonic: So you want a pure linux box
[06:26] <mneumonic> version 5.04 live cd
[06:27] <yubimusubi> frogzoo: Heh, tell me about it...wine/cedega can't handle most of the decent games for win
[06:27] <yubimusubi> cafuego: Yea, I'll try the demo first.
[06:27] <nickrud> mneumonic, the live cd doesn't install to the hard disk :)
[06:27] <yubimusubi> mneumonic: Yea, that's old, but it should install
[06:27] <frogzoo> yubimusubi: but for serious gaming, you really need native - no way out if you need performance so dual boot is the way to go
[06:28] <yubimusubi> Hmm...actually I'm installing Hoary cause the Breezy download crapped on me...I can just apt-get dist-upgrade breezy and change hoary to breezy in sources.list, right?
[06:28] <mneumonic> so it wont format the drive ?
[06:28] <yubimusubi> frogzoo: Yea, I wish that was true
[06:28] <nickrud> !breezy
[06:28] <rabeldable> mneumonic: http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[06:28] <abarbaccia_> hey guys - someone is using my nick and its registered to me - how do i kick them off
[06:28] <yubimusubi> mneumonic: yea, you have to use the install cd...where'd ya get the cd?
[06:28] <rabeldable> download that iso and burn it to a cd then install with that
[06:29] <mneumonic> buddy gave it to me
[06:29] <frogzoo> yubimusubi: b4 upgrading to breezy - be absolutely sure to install both 'ubuntu-base' and 'ubuntu-desktop'
[06:29] <mneumonic> 2 discs
[06:29] <yubimusubi> frogzoo: what are those?
[06:29] <rabeldable> mneumonic: live cd is to temporarily boot your system as a linux computer...
[06:29] <nickrud> yubimusubi, there's a few gotchas in the upgrade, there's a wiki page that ubotu doesn't seem to want to tell us about.
[06:29] <Dido-> abarbaccia, try /nickserv ghost nick pass
[06:29] <frogzoo> yubimusubi: read the upgrade guide in wiki
[06:29] <yubimusubi> mneumonic: awesome, use the install disc, not the livecd
[06:29] <frogzoo> !tell yubimusubi about upgrade
[06:29] <mneumonic> lol just notticed that
[06:29] <reikon> um..how do i restart the xserver on ubuntu?
[06:29] <yubimusubi> nickrud and frogzoo okay
[06:29] <rabeldable> hehe
[06:29] <jdmpike> what do people think of Gnomebaker?
[06:29] <mneumonic> k sorry to bother u guys
[06:29] <yubimusubi> reikon: ctrl-alt-backspace
[06:30] <abarbaccia_> !tell abarbaccia_ about upgrade
[06:30] <yubimusubi> mneumonic: no bother
[06:30] <jdmpike> what is the best dvd burning utility for Ubuntu?
[06:30] <reikon> thanks mate
[06:30] <mneumonic> thanx
[06:30] <mneumonic> cyaz
[06:30] <nickrud> mneumonic, this is the support channel
[06:30] <yubimusubi> jdmpike: try K3B if you want intuitive
[06:30] <Dido-> jdmpike, k3b's better
[06:30] <jdmpike> even for gnome?
[06:30] <mkyb14> where would one get the mp3 plugin for beep media player?
[06:30] <mneumonic> so the live just makes it a folder in windows?
[06:30] <reikon> is there a shell command to do it? similar to gentoo's /etc/init.d/xdm restart ?
[06:30] <yubimusubi> Dido-: Heh, I use the disk-writer plug-in for XMMS
[06:30] <nickrud> mneumonic, it does it all in ram
[06:31] <mneumonic> ahh ok
[06:31] <frogzoo> reikon: exactly that ;)
[06:31] <_jason> mneumonic, it doesn't modify anything on your system
[06:31] <leather_n_luv> anyone ehre have a compaq presario sr1603wm
[06:31] <dooglus> reikon: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:31] <reikon> ahh thanks..brb (obviously)
[06:31] <mneumonic> ok ty for your help have good night
[06:31] <yubimusubi> mneumonic: good luck
[06:32] <brownie17> pretty quite in here
[06:32] <nickrud> mkyb14, beep does mp3's without a plugin
[06:32] <yubimusubi> Okay, gotta go check on my installs
[06:32] <leather_n_luv> frogzoo, did that person wondering how to change the mbr code (yesterday) log on today?
[06:32] <mkyb14> arrrr how come i can't play mp3s over my network with either beep or xmms.  i can see the files etc and add them to a playlist
[06:32] <frogzoo> leather_n_luv: just dropped by myself - couldn't say
[06:33] <cafueg1> !test
[06:33] <yubimusubi> nickrud: I like my XMMS...in most distros it COMES with an mpeg plugin
[06:33] <jdmpike> is there anything similar to dvdshrink that runs natively to linux?
[06:33] <nickrud> ah, now network, that's a different kettle of fish
[06:33] <cafueg1> This is getting a little bit tedious
[06:33] <yubimusubi> mkyb14: My friend had the same problem, hold on
[06:33] <mkyb14> well how do i kick this kettles ass
[06:33] <nickrud> yubimusubi, xmms plays mp3's natively in breezy as well
[06:34] <mkyb14> i knoew i just tried both thinking taht xmms was having issues, but both do it
[06:34] <yubimusubi> nickrud: Awesome, dist-upgrade to breezy I guess as soon as I get online
[06:34] <yubimusubi> There's pppoe support in hoary, right?
[06:34] <geneo93> seems as though dapper missed a few hardware items
[06:34] <nickrud> yubimusubi, yes, pppoeconf
[06:35] <mkyb14> i gave myself in windows read write access... thought that would do it, but no
[06:35] <anthony_> cdubya: It seems my internet connection wasn't too happy about changing connections, and got confused, so I'm at this nick now, and it claims the other is still in use.
[06:35] <nickrud> yubimusubi, though, if you can configure your router/modem and connect to it with eth0, you'll like that better.
[06:35] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:35] <ubotu> Failed.
[06:35] <yubimusubi> Ew, that brings me to another sticky question...we have an actiontec usb modem...
[06:35] <frogzoo> !test
[06:35] <ubotflu> Failed.
[06:36] <yubimusubi> Well, it's ethernet/usb...the ethernet hooked up to me and the usb to my 'rents
[06:36] <yubimusubi> And Idunno if it will work...it needed some wierd drivers to work in the first place
[06:36] <cafuego_> ubotu is perhaps a liiiiiiiiiiiiiittle bit lagged
[06:36] <ubotu> cafuego_: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:36] <geneo93> ubotu !fail
[06:36] <ubotu> geneo93: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:36] <cafuego_> oh, you're back now, are you?
[06:36] <geneo93> smart ass
[06:37] <yubimusubi> nickrud: erm...well...
[06:38] <mkyb14> so that was a no on the network thing then??
[06:38] <nickrud> yubimusubi, usb and networking is not in my vocabulary :)
[06:38] <yubimusubi> nickrud: It's an AOL modem...and the router can't exactly...well...it won't work if I plug it in the WAN
[06:38] <yubimusubi> I can use the router as a hub instead, but then there's some lag...
[06:39] <gaby> hey
[06:39] <gaby> are u all adults
[06:39] <nickrud> yubimusubi, I just have this speedtouch modem I configure thru the browser, I've been using one or another of those for a few years.
[06:39] <cafuego> gaby: No, we're not.
[06:39] <yubimusubi> nickrud: well, AOL and networking is just stupid...
[06:39] <gaby> how old are u then
[06:39] <frogzoo> gaby: this is a child friendly channel, just so's you know
[06:39] <cafuego> gaby: About 4 times your age.
[06:40] <anthony_> Okay everybody: I had to disconnect and reconnect, and it thought my registed nick was still in use, and so now I'm stuck with an unregistered one and can't pm.   I'm going to try them on my laptop http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75378&highlight=ati
[06:42] <techrush> yes frogzoo 3 different versions of fglrx
[06:42] <frogzoo> :(
[06:43] <techrush> yah
[06:43] <techrush> its not a big loss i dont use 3d for much
[06:43] <frogzoo> techrush: oh, did you set vert & horiz refresh rates?
[06:43] <geneo93> techrush:  did you try turning off pnp
[06:43] <techrush> no and no
[06:43] <yubimusubi> techrush: Did you enable dri and comment out glx?
[06:44] <techrush> no
[06:44] <aztek> i opened the flood gates
[06:44] <techrush> none of the tutorials said too
[06:44] <benplaut> anyone know how to configure a 5 button mouse?
[06:44] <techrush> im away from my laptop now or id try it
[06:44] <benplaut> err, 4 button
[06:45] <Madpilot> benplaut: there's at least one or two wiki pages about fancy mice
[06:45] <benplaut> k
[06:45] <yubimusubi> benplaut: you have to edit xorg.conf I think
[06:45] <benplaut> yubimusubi: yes, i know
[06:45] <yubimusubi> Hmm...my 7 button mouse worked no prob on most distros I used it with...
[06:46] <mkyb14> yubimusubi, so did your friend ever figure this network mp3 playing out?
[06:46] <frogzoo> so techrush - which vid card is this?
[06:46] <lasindi> How come when you boot into runtime level 1, it doesn't ask for a password (and just gives a root prompt)?
[06:46] <yubimusubi> Oh wait, that's right I had a big problem with it on hoary...
[06:46] <Plugh> 7 button mouse?
[06:46] <Adam_> hey guys
[06:46] <nickrud> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mouse_Scrollwheel#Mouse_Button_Mapping_Modifications <-- benplaut
[06:46] <lasindi> Isn't that a security flaw?
[06:46] <benplaut> thanks
[06:46] <yubimusubi> mkyb14: Yes, I'm trying to contact her
[06:46] <Madpilot> benplaut: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[06:46] <mkyb14> sweet
[06:46] <techrush> frogzoo its a ati radeon 9000 mobile on a 1280x800 display laptop
[06:46] <Adam_> can someone point me to a decent irc channel for fedora?
[06:46] <mkyb14> fedora = poo
[06:46] <Adam_> my 3rd boot part is it
[06:46] <Adam_> i have ubuntu
[06:46] <llamuh> lol
[06:46] <benplaut> thanks
[06:46] <Adam_> on my second
[06:46] <Adam_> learning rpm
[06:46] <frogzoo> techrush: 9700 here - worked with fglrx no probs - 1280x800 also
[06:47] <yubimusubi> Plugh: leftclick, right-click, middle scroll up, middle scroll down, middle click, and two extra buttons on the side for forward/backward on the internet.
[06:47] <techrush> yeah ive  seen a lot of success stories with the 9700 and 9800
[06:47] <Plugh> Adam_: #fedora
[06:47] <maswan> lasindi: not really, you could as well boot init=/bin/bash and get a root prompt with no password
[06:47] <Adam_> i went there... it says i have to log in
[06:47] <yubimusubi> Plugh: I had a friend who had a 12 button mouse...why? don't ask me...
[06:47] <benplaut> i may be the only person on the planet with a 4 button mouse, not 3 or 5 :P
[06:47] <Adam_> garbage
[06:47] <Madpilot> techrush: I've got a 9600XT 256Mb in this desktop, running 3d just fine
[06:47] <frogzoo> techrush: u did try fglrxconfig ?
[06:47] <yubimusubi> benplaut: 4 buttons? heh
[06:47] <techrush> yes frogzoo
[06:47] <maswan> lasindi: which works in pretty much all linux dists
[06:47] <lasindi> maswan: why does linux allow that?
[06:47] <benplaut> yubimusubi: yeah, a nice new MS laser notebook mouse
[06:48] <Adam_> hey, do you guys know if an audigy 4 will work in ubuntu? i havent booted into it with my new sound card
[06:48] <maswan> lasindi: because it is a very useful way of doing recovery, without having to bring a boot cd etc
[06:48] <yubimusubi> benplaut: ooh, notebook mouse...I want one...and onea them detachable number pads
[06:48] <lasindi> maswan: isn't it a security hazard?
[06:48] <Plugh> Adam_: You don't have to log in. If you identified yourself to the nickserv to be on this channel you should be ok there too.
[06:48] <techrush> Adam_ audigy should work fine in linux
[06:49] <benplaut> yubimusubi: aye... get this one- it's sweet! :D
[06:49] <Adam_> Plugh, no, it tells me i have to log in
[06:49] <maswan> lasindi: well, kind of, but not really. if you want to protect against someone with physical access to the machine, you need to do lots of work, including locking down the bios
[06:49] <Adam_> techrush, it doesnt work with a fresh install of fedora...
[06:49] <Plugh> I just went there and didn't get such a message
[06:49] <nickrud> lock it in a cage, more like
[06:49] <llamuh> im a noob, obviously.  can anyone tell me why its saying my GCC is not found when i attempt to use 'make' ?  make -C /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 M=/home/llamuh/hermes/orinoco-0.15.rc2 modules
[06:49] <llamuh> command not found
[06:49] <lasindi> maswan: well, locking down the BIOS isn't hard
[06:49] <techrush> it will work though Adam_ you may just need to mess with it some
[06:49] <yubimusubi> benplaut: can you gimme a link to a pic?
[06:49] <nickrud> llamuh, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:49] <maswan> lasindi: neither is locking down the bootloader to refuse booting anything but the default
[06:50] <Adam_> techrush, its an audigy 4... not 2. brand new card
[06:50] <llamuh> nickrud: ive done that
[06:50] <frogzoo> maswan: physical security can always be circumvented - just steal the box ;)
[06:50] <lasindi> maswan: how do you do that?
[06:50] <maswan> lasindi: by default neither of this is done, since it is very easy to get into a non-recoverable state
[06:50] <benplaut> yubimusubi: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=048
[06:50] <nickrud> ah, I should have read further: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 for the kernel
[06:50] <tritium> llamuh: why are you building orinoco modules, given that they are provided in ubuntu?
[06:50] <cafuego> lasindi: Especially award bioses
[06:50] <HighHopes> Hello! I am trying to install Nvidia for Xorg in my Ubuntu Breezy 5.10 and I couldn't. I have a GeForce2 MX-400... What can I do?
[06:50] <Adam_> Plugh, it is telling me to go register
[06:50] <benplaut> i hope i'm not banned for linking to MS.com -_-
[06:50] <yubimusubi> mkyb14: Try this for mp3s https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=mp3
[06:50] <techrush> it uses a emu10k2 chip Adam_ it will work
[06:50] <tritium> benplaut: would I do such a thing?
[06:50] <lasindi> maswan: how do you lock down the boot loader?
[06:51] <maswan> lasindi: hm. I don't remember now, I've never done it. but setting a password for grub or so, should be the way to go
[06:51] <lasindi> maswan: ok thanks
[06:51] <Adam_> yea, well, it aint working in fedora... so i dont know
[06:51] <techrush> Adam_ http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Creative_Labs#matrix
[06:51] <Adam_> i will boot into it to see
[06:51] <cafuego> You can password the bootloader, but coz most bioses have backdoors, that';s also pointless. AND you can simply remove the hdd and mount it in another machine.
[06:51] <llamuh> tritium: ive been trying to get my promix orinoco gold card to work all day.  it doesnt detect the card and i havent been able to get any help with it so im assuming it is indeed using the hermes/orinoco chipset and not the atheros as some have claimed
[06:51] <benplaut> tritium: would you? :P
[06:51] <nicholasbrennen> ni
[06:51] <Plugh> Adam_: There is at least one other channel I am on which requires users to register their nicks with the nickserver before they can chat on the channel.
[06:51] <llamuh> er promix=proxim
[06:51] <yubimusubi> benplaut: ooh, that's pretty...except...I dun wanna support m$ by buying their products...
[06:51] <tritium> benplaut: of course not
[06:51] <yubimusubi> I've already started a small local boycott of the xbox360
[06:52] <nickrud> like I said, lock it into a cage. At least then they need bolt cutters or a torch.
[06:52] <tritium> llamuh: you don't need to build it, though
[06:52] <Adam_> Plugh, yea, i dont want to copy and paste it....
[06:52] <benplaut> yubimusubi: their keyboards and mice are excellent, and a completely different department than Windows ;)
[06:52] <llamuh> tritium: then what do i do? lol  im lost at this point..
[06:52] <sstchur> Hi all.  Brand new to Ubuntu -- just installed it last night. I see that it has Firefox installed, but it looks to be Deerpark Alpha.  I tried sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox, but it's telling me I already have the latest version
[06:52] <benplaut> it's even mac compatible -_-
[06:52] <frogzoo> techrush: suggest you take a look @ https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.19.10.html#178361
[06:53] <yubimusubi> benplaut: hmm, you put up a good argument...
[06:53] <mkyb14> yubimusubi, did she use this to fix her problem?
[06:53] <techrush> thanks frogzoo
[06:53] <nicholasbrennen> i dont know how to install msn messenger ubuntu pm me if you know how
[06:53] <yubimusubi> but USB mice are usually made for mac
[06:53] <techrush> what ?
[06:53] <nickrud> ubotu tell sstchur about firefox15
[06:53] <yubimusubi> mkyb14: I can't get in touch with her...but when I was talking to her she mentioned apt-getting stuff
[06:53] <tritium> llamuh: first positively find out what chipset it really is
[06:53] <Plugh> Adam_: Just go register your nick with the Nickserv. Its simple to do.
[06:53] <techrush> usb mice are made for mac ??/
[06:53] <Adam_> Plugh, dont know how
[06:53] <tritium> sure, techrush
[06:54] <yubimusubi> mkyb14: I helped her fix it...the best resource for this is the ubuntu wikis
[06:54] <techrush> or laptops
[06:54] <Madpilot> Adam_: /msg nickserv help
[06:54] <sstchur> nickrud, what is ubotu?
[06:54] <mkyb14> k thanks
[06:54] <nickrud> sstchur, it is a broken bot. a sec:
[06:54] <techrush> or plenty of people use usb mice on windows
[06:54] <Plugh> Adam_: Look at the message you get from the Nickserv.
[06:54] <techrush> and pcs
[06:54] <nickrud> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion sstchur
[06:54] <Plugh> Adam_: Type /nickserv help
[06:54] <yubimusubi> mkyb14: And I think you need to restart some services for it to work, so you might want to do a complete reboot...
[06:54] <Adam_> just did that
[06:55] <Seq> Does anybody know how I can specify a static dns search item (for resolv.conf) as resolv.conf seems to be overwritten my NetworkManager automatically?
[06:55] <logical_mark> Is there an EASY way to share folders with linux?
[06:55] <yubimusubi> techrush: Yea, but why a USB mouse on windoze?
[06:55] <mkyb14> oye
[06:55] <yubimusubi> logical_mark: share over a network?
[06:55] <frogzoo> Seq: remove the dns entries in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[06:55] <Adam_> adam is already used
[06:55] <cafuego> You'd be  hard pressed finding a Windows machien being sold without USB mosue, but with PS/2 these days
[06:55] <logical_mark> yushimusubi: yeah over a network
[06:55] <Adam_> have to choose another one
[06:55] <techrush> yubismusubi because your laptop doesnt have any other port for a mouse :)
[06:55] <logical_mark> yubimusubi: yes over a network
[06:56] <cafuego> yubimusubi is perhaps on crack.
[06:56] <jdmpike> does anyone know what software to use with gnome to create a dvd from pictures and stuff?
[06:56] <yubimusubi> logical_mark: pls spell my name right, that's what tab completion is for :P
[06:56] <llamuh> tritium: people on the netstumbler forum claim that there are multiple chipsets for this one card.  most claim that if it does not say "classic" on it then it is not the original hermes card.  though when i check other resources and look up the model # it says wavelan/orinoco.  i did lshw -C network and it came up with "wireless pc card model 0111  vendor: agere systems"
[06:56] <yubimusubi> cafuego: yea, perhaps...
[06:56] <`Grue> I'm a newb, and this seems like a dunb question, but how do ya get to a command line in Ubuntu?
[06:56] <Plugh> Adam_: I had the same problem and had to pick a different nick too
[06:56] <yubimusubi> logical_mark: Did you try samba or nfs?
[06:56] <Seq> frogzoo, the network interfaces are working fine, i just want to add 'local' as a search domain
[06:56] <`Grue> dumb even
[06:56] <logical_mark> yubimusubi, holy crap I never new that exisited (no sarcasim) thanks
[06:56] <cafuego> yubimusubi: PS/2 is also not hot pluggable. (Yes, i know you can 999 times, but on try 10,000 the mobo might blow) whereas USB is.
[06:56] <Adam_> yea
[06:56] <yubimusubi> logical_mark: heh
[06:56] <Adam_> i did link
[06:56] <Adam_> so maybe it changed?
[06:56] <logical_mark> yubimusubi, yeah I went to "Shared Folders" and enabled samba and shared a folder
[06:57] <yubimusubi> cafuego: Hmm...
[06:57] <yubimusubi> logical_mark: Right....and?
[06:57] <nickrud> `Grue, applications->accessories->terminal, or ctl-alt-f1-6
[06:57] <sstchur> nickrud, thanks i'm following it now.  I'm used to Gentoo package system, Portage.  Is there a place where I can see a list of all the apps in the apt-get repository like I could with portage?
[06:57] <llamuh> tritium: as far as i can tell the atheros chipset wasnt introduced until they started using 802.11b/g  mine is just a B card so can only assume that it does use the hermes/orinoco chipset.  some on the netstumbler forum have even gone down to looking up the FCC ID to find the chipset but i havent been able to find any info on my particular card
[06:57] <logical_mark> and on my other computer I don't know how to see the drive onthe other
[06:57] <logical_mark> yubimusubi, I cant see the drive on my other computer
[06:58] <yubimusubi> logical_mark: is your other comp a windows or linux?
[06:58] <cafuego> llamuh: Insert it, type 'cardctl ident'.
[06:58] <logical_mark> yubimusubi, I linux, ubuntu as well
[06:58] <tritium> llamuh: what happens when you modprobe the orinoco module?
[06:58] <llamuh> says no info available
[06:58] <yubimusubi> logical_mark: Either way, it has to be mounted as a networkdrive...and I don't know how to do that on ubuntu, but I have a powerful tool on my side: google
[06:58] <`Grue> thanks nickrud
[06:58] <cafuego> llamuh: Is the socket driver loaded?
[06:58] <llamuh> tritium: what is the module named? lol
[06:58] <logical_mark> yubimusubi, yeah I will check it out thanks
[06:59] <Zen> Yeah, so I installed linux on a friend's computer and his sound would randomly not work after a few weeks.  Any idea?
[06:59] <nickrud> sstchur, I've never looked at portage, so I don't know what the tool looks like. There's about 17000 packages, so aptitude search ^.* | more will work :)
[06:59] <cafuego> !any idea
[06:59] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, cafuego
[06:59] <cafuego> zen; sorry, all out of any ideas.
[06:59] <llamuh> cafuego: i would assume so.  when i check the status of the PCMCIA it shows that one slot is empty and the other slot has an unsupported card
[07:00] <tritium> llamuh: orinoco ;)
[07:00] <cafuego> tritium: orinoco_cs
[07:00] <yubimusubi> logical_mark: try this on your client comp: sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=[network user] ,password=[network pass] ,uid=`whoami`,gid=`whoami`,fmask=000,dmask=000 //[whatever you named the Samba server] /[network user]  /home/`whoami`/Network
[07:00] <Zen> That's ok.  At least I still have my from-scratch IRC client to have fun with.  =)
[07:00] <nickrud> sstchur, and, the firefox thing is a real hack. It'll not be in the package system for a long time.
[07:00] <benplaut> i guess i wasn't clear enough
[07:01] <tritium> cafuego: okay, thanks.  What's the orinoco one?  older?
[07:01] <ejofee> why doesn shfs crash when deleting something (on the mounted share)?
[07:01] <cafuego> tritium: orinoco is for pci, orinoco_cs for pcmcia
[07:01] <benplaut> i don't want to program the button to do any program command, just for it to be middle click, and middle click to EmulateScrollWheel
[07:01] <benplaut> anyone know how to do that?
[07:01] <yubimusubi> cafuego: Ohh...so I don't need both enabled for my pcmcia nic?
[07:01] <tritium> cafuego: ah, but of course...
[07:01] <ejofee> doesn=does
[07:01] <logical_mark> yubimusubi, that is a ton LOL. I need to go to sleep because I have exams tmwo. thanks!
[07:02] <cafuego> benplaut: peterS on #debian is mouse bitch, he might know :-)
[07:02] <benplaut> thanks :)
[07:02] <yubimusubi> Heh, exams...I got a C in trig...
[07:02] <frogzoo> is there anyway to find all pkgs installed from .debs? so I can check for updates on pkgs I've installed manually?
[07:02] <llamuh> so now that weve determined it is indeed orinoco_cs, what do i do to get it working?
[07:02] <yubimusubi> frogzoo: try synaptic?
[07:02] <tritium> llamuh: sudo modprobe orinoco_cs
[07:02] <lasindi> maswan: is it possible to pass the 'init=/bin/bash' parameter in LILO also without root access?
[07:02] <yubimusubi> frogzoo: oh, nvm