[01:42] <ttaulman> lionelp, was gone for a while picking up my daughter, wondered if you had any thoughts on that 2 minute login?
[08:28] <ubijtsa> moin moin
[04:13] <Micksa> hah
[04:13] <Micksa> maybe this'll work
[04:13] <Micksa> anyone here manage to get imap over ssl working with uw-imapd?
[04:13] <ubijtsa> no, but dovecot works..
[04:13] <Micksa> dovecot eh
[04:13] <Micksa> hmmm
[04:14] <spike> hey ubijtsa
[04:14] <ubijtsa> lo spike
[04:14] <Micksa> I'm going to have issues
[04:14] <Micksa> I just know it
[04:14] <spike> courier-imaps works too
[04:14] <spike> do does cyrus for what it matters :)
[04:15] <ubijtsa> and since dovecot was available in ubuntu....
[04:16] <ubijtsa> when I migrated to breezy, I kept using it :)
[04:18] <Xoritor> spike, as to my questions... you were right there are no tools for lvm on the "install" cd
[04:18] <Xoritor> spike, i dont know how the vg's and lv's are created without them though
[04:18] <Xoritor> spike, but the "live" cd has them... so everthing is golden between the 2
[04:19] <ubijtsa> surely the lvm tools are in the install system..
[04:19] <Xoritor> ubijtsa, nope
[04:19] <spike> oh, hello Xoritor
[04:19] <Xoritor> ubijtsa, you drop to a shell and it says no lvm
[04:19] <Xoritor> lol
[04:19] <Xoritor> but it does create and use them
[04:19] <Xoritor> i really liked the installer
[04:19] <ubijtsa> hmm. maybe it pulls in a udeb if you say you want to setup lvm
[04:19] <Xoritor> i dunno
[04:20] <ubijtsa> what command did you try?
[04:20] <Xoritor> ubijtsa, but the live cd has everything
[04:20] <Xoritor> lvm
[04:20] <Xoritor> lv
[04:20] <Xoritor> vg
[04:20] <Xoritor> pv
[04:20] <Xoritor> first
[04:20] <Xoritor> vgscan
[04:20] <Xoritor> not found
[04:20] <Xoritor> ok, vgchange -ay
[04:20] <Xoritor> nope
[04:20] <Xoritor> lvm vgscan
[04:20] <Xoritor> nope
[04:20] <Xoritor> lvm vgchange -ay
[04:20] <Xoritor> nope again
[04:20] <Xoritor> none of them were there that i saw
[04:20] <ubijtsa> uhm, could be that it uses the lvm shell, so you may have to run /sbin/lvm2 or summat
[04:21] <Xoritor> i did not try lvm2
[04:21] <Xoritor> hmmm
[04:21] <Xoritor> interesting
[04:21] <Xoritor> im used to RHEL and FC systems where its named lvm not lvm2
[04:21] <ubijtsa> do an ls in /{,s}bin and see if there is any lvm tools there :)
[04:21] <Xoritor> and its named lvm in the distor also
[04:22] <Xoritor> on the install cd
[04:22] <spike> lvm2 binary I mean
[04:22] <ubijtsa> to create the lvm pv/vg/lv's you more or less need the lvm tools..
[04:23] <ubijtsa> unless there is some super-script twiddling device-mapper at a *low* level
[04:23] <Xoritor> ubijtsa, thats what i said!
[04:23] <Xoritor> heh
[04:23] <Xoritor> ubijtsa, i was thinking that same thing
[04:23] <Xoritor> i dunno though
[04:24] <ubijtsa> evms can twiddle lvm2 as well, but I doubt the install cd uses that
[04:24] <Xoritor> im not too worried about it
[04:24] <Xoritor> i got it done with 0 data loss
[04:24] <ubijtsa> good stuff :)
[04:24] <Xoritor> kept all my stuff in tact
[04:24] <Xoritor> yea it was really freakin cool
[04:24] <Xoritor> and very little time
[04:24] <Xoritor> one issue i did have was the disk ordering
[04:25] <Xoritor> my normal sda drive became sdc
[04:25] <Xoritor> i have 3 sata drives in this machine
[04:25] <Xoritor> and the raptor usually is on sda... but ubuntu sees it as sdc
[04:26] <Xoritor> not a big deal, but it caused a headache between grub and the bios and ubuntu booting ;-)
[04:27] <Xoritor> i want a multi channel pci express scsi ultra 320 setup on a 4-8 way opteron doing software raid
[04:27] <Xoritor> heh
[04:27] <Xoritor> so i would get full speed to each channel for each part of the raid
[04:28] <Xoritor> no pci bottle necks
[04:28] <Xoritor> not that they are that bad mind you... just im a freak
[04:28] <ubijtsa> get a fastt600 ;)
[04:29] <Xoritor> fastt600?
[04:29] <Xoritor> i am thinking of getting one of those "ram drives" from gigabyte
[04:29] <ubijtsa> ibm storage array, fibre channel
[04:29] <Xoritor> aah
[04:29] <Xoritor> well... there is that
[04:29] <ubijtsa> 50MB/s sustained xfer rate
[04:29] <Xoritor> one of my friends works at netapp
[04:29] <Xoritor> ;-)
[04:30] <Xoritor> i am trying to get her to send me a filer for "testing" ;-)
[04:30] <Xoritor> ahahahahaha
[04:30] <Xoritor> but i dont wanna pay the power bill
[04:30] <maswan> Xoritor: You'd probably be better off on a 2-way opteron, IIRC. Not as much locking overhead in various linux io layers.
[04:31] <Xoritor> maswan, hmm you think so? i have a 2 way.. (well when i buy the second 246 i will) ;-)
[04:31] <maswan> Xoritor: I think so, but I'm not sure. Also, for just pushing bits, that's plenty of overkill cpu-wise
[04:36] <Xoritor> heh
[04:36] <Xoritor> trying to figure out if i want to upgrade to dapper
[04:36] <Xoritor> any of you running it?
[04:37] <Xoritor> of course this is for my workstation not my main server
[04:37] <maswan> tried it out at flight-2, reported a half-dozen bugs, now running breezy with custom kernel
[04:37] <Xoritor> maswan, hmm
[04:38] <maswan> Xoritor: nothing really serious, but kind of annoying. and mostly quickly fixed
[04:39] <Xoritor> still dunno what i want to do
[04:39] <Xoritor> i think ill stick with this for a while
[04:39] <Xoritor> learn more
[04:39] <Xoritor> im not new to linux by any means
[04:39] <Xoritor> but new to ubuntu
[04:40] <Xoritor> so im not 100% sure where everything is, and how it all plays together
[04:43] <beanz> Hello. Does gfs in Breezy US contain the DLM?
[09:34] <GheRivero> his!


[03:11] <jjesse> evening whoever is hanging out at the keys :)
[03:23] <jjesse> looks like i'm the only one
[03:23] <HrdwrBob> yo
[03:24] <jjesse> hello HrdwrBob
[07:40] <Burgundavia> salut jsgotangco
[07:40] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco, I may have to hand off the quicktour for dapper
[07:41] <jsgotangco> Burgundavia, oh any reason why?
[07:42] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco, basically I my new job at Userful and Ubuntu stuff might collide
[07:42] <Burgundavia> currently I am doing no doc work
[07:42] <jsgotangco> ahh understood
[07:42] <Burgundavia> until I get something in writing from Userful about copyright, etc.
[07:42] <jsgotangco> what needs to be done on the quicktour now?
[07:42] <Burgundavia> just screenshots
[07:43] <jsgotangco> hrmmmm
[07:43] <jsgotangco> i guess its pretty safe to do screenshots now
[07:43] <Burgundavia> yes
[07:43] <jsgotangco> since we're already locked for RC
[07:43] <Burgundavia> I have started on my laptop, but didn't get them done by Sunday
[07:43] <Burgundavia> I might be being paranoid, but I would rather be sure
[07:44] <jsgotangco> sure corey don't worry about it too much
[07:44] <jsgotangco> im sure we'll come up with something good during UBZ
[07:44] <robitaille> I know the feeling...everything I do during the day at work is technically owned by the Queen of England...
[07:44] <Burgundavia> I am already cleared to go to UBZ, which is good
[07:45] <jsgotangco> robitaille, but the queen of england is also the queen of canada...
[07:45] <MadpilotPPC> robitaille, no, copyright is owned by the Queen of Canada, who happens also to be the Queen of various smaller places too... ;)
[07:46] <robitaille> MadpilotPPC,  I know.  Actually we just say it is owned by the crown.
[07:46] <Burgundavia> robitaille, the Queen of Canada is a seperate legal entity to the Queen of England
[07:47] <robitaille> at the end of the day it doesn't matter: I don't own the stuff
[07:47] <jsgotangco> if i move to victoria i need to have a picture of the queen in my house?
[07:47] <robitaille> jsgotangco,  no!
[07:47] <jsgotangco> ahh goodie
[07:48] <robitaille> a statue will be enough :)
[07:48] <jsgotangco> gyahhh
[07:48] <MadpilotPPC> jsgotangco, yes. And newcomers to victoria are also required to go to High Tea at the Empress at least once ;)
[07:48] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco, 5' minimum, in the front lawn
[07:49] <MadpilotPPC> you can install a statue of Queen Victoria if the current model doesn't suit you, though
[07:51] <robitaille> wow...all my recent documents are gone from gnome-panel after tonight's updates.  I wonder if that's a bug
[07:51] <Burgundavia> robitaille, hmm, open another doc, they reappear
[07:52] <robitaille> Burgundavia,  yep; they did.  confused me for a second there
[07:53] <robitaille> hummm 11pm...and still many slides to prepare for my ubuntu/foss talk on Thursday.
[07:53] <robitaille> another long evening coming up...
[07:54] <jsgotangco> robitaille, where you speaking?
[07:56] <robitaille> jsgotangco,  at work. We have an internal seminars series every week, and I try to give a 1-hour talk every year.   this time around, I decided to sell foss and ubuntu to my coworkers :)
[08:35] <mdke> morning
[08:35] <jsgotangco> hey mdke
[08:37] <mdke> jsgotangco, you never answered my /query yesterday :/
[08:37] <jsgotangco> mdke, of?
[08:38] <jsgotangco> i didnt see any PM
[08:38] <mdke> hmm
[08:39] <mdke> oh well, i'll try again then
[09:57] <jsgotangco> mdke, where do you suggest to put the doc bug in then?
[10:02] <jsgotangco> hi enrico =)
[10:03] <enrico> jsgotangco: hi
[10:10] <jsgotangco> how's life treating you? good i hope
[11:09] <ompaul> Hi, this falls somewhere between devs and docs, so I'll throw it in here for what its worth, I upgraded the two machines in the house around the start of colony 4,  The file /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html cannot be found/ Please check the location and try again. my wife brought this to my attention, it did not bother me, but the date we now have does :)   The file /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html cannot be found/ Please check the loc
[11:09] <ompaul> ation and try again.
[11:09] <ompaul> this happened a couple of weeks ago
[11:10] <ompaul> I did report it but had forgotten about it :)
[11:12] <rob^> its working for me
[11:12] <ompaul> rob^, hoary / breezy?
[11:12] <rob^> breezy
[11:12] <ompaul> hmm
[11:12] <ompaul> so it never fixed on my box :)
[11:13] <rob^> is your system up to date?
[11:13] <rob^> some of those files only got added in a recent update
[11:13] <ompaul> up to yesterday - currently downloading
[11:13] <jsgotangco> mmm?
[11:13] <ompaul> actually ubuntu-docs is held back according to my machine
[11:13] <rob^> what happens when you type the following into firefox? file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[11:14] <jsgotangco> ompaul, force it
[11:14] <rob^> ompaul, thats probably the problem
[11:14] <rob^> I thought jbailey was gonna fix that?
[11:14] <ompaul> it is the same :)
[11:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> just a tic. ill open firefox as ewll :/ mine was broken yesterday
[11:14] <jsgotangco> same => the ugly white page?
[11:14] <rob^> yep
[11:14] <ompaul> well yeah
[11:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> i have a plain white page
[11:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh
[11:15] <jsgotangco> Kamping_Kaiser, no text?
[11:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> got text, yeh
[11:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> i was agreeing with ugly white page bit
[11:15] <jsgotangco> yes
[11:15] <ompaul> it is in bugzilla but under ff as ff was having all sorts of issues - it was the time when 1.0.7 came out and all the clever backports broke :)
[11:16] <jsgotangco> we're still thinking of vodoo css for it
[11:16] <ompaul> jsgotangco, any css will do :)
[11:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. yeh
[11:16] <jsgotangco> ompaul, vodoo is being considered though
[11:16] <jsgotangco> heh
[11:16] <ompaul> okay so it is in your sights, that is all I wanted to know
[11:18] <rob^> grr I need access to faqguide bugs in bugzilla
[11:18] <jsgotangco> edit bug?
[11:19] <rob^> yes
[11:19] <ompaul> the reason I am saying this today is that it is my intention to wipe the machine in the next couple of days, and install the colony 6, so I wanted to make sure that it has gone away :)
[11:19] <rob^> and I need to be able to have them assigned to me too
[11:19] <jsgotangco> give me the bug# and your bugzilla email
[11:20] <rob^> 15475
[11:20] <rob^><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:20] <rob^> hmm I love old but still working email addresses :)
[11:21] <rob^> yeah I just thought that
[11:22] <rob^> they suck alright
[11:23] <jsgotangco> rob^, is this really fixed?
[11:23] <jsgotangco> i can close this
[11:23] <rob^> yes
[11:24] <rob^> I'm looking at the branch, its been fixed for at least a week or two now
[11:24] <rob^> its fixed in the ubuntu-docs package too
[11:25] <jsgotangco> rob^, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=specific&order=bugs.resolution%2C+relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&product=Documentation&content=
[11:25] <jsgotangco> squash em!
[11:25] <jsgotangco> eheh
[11:26] <rob^> heh, 15013
[11:30] <rob^> are problems with upstream docs our problem?
[11:30] <ompaul> amazing hu? no audio, killall esd results in no process killed, audio works
[11:30] <ompaul> ahh wrong channel :)
[11:34] <rob^> jsgotangco, bug 15673, isn't this a yelp issue, not a docs issue?
[02:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> ping?
[02:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> are people still working on teh 'unoficial ubuntu FAQ guide' in the help ? bits are missing :/, i was wondering if they were perminant bits
[03:26] <mdke> yo
[03:26] <mdke> Kamping_Kaiser, have you got the latest version?
[03:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> mdke: i thought so, but i could be 2 days out of date ( now i think about it), because i used my isps mirror
[03:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> ill try updating the docs from the master mirrors and see then
[03:27] <mdke> Kamping_Kaiser, well that is up to date enough
[03:27] <mdke> Kamping_Kaiser, the answer is:
[03:27] <mdke> 1) yes we work on that document
[03:27] <mdke> 2) we can't change it now because it is frozen
[03:27] <mdke> 3) file any bugs and we can fix them for the next version
[03:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. thanks. ill (hopefully) be helping for the next version... it may end up being my problem :|
[03:28] <mdke> Kamping_Kaiser, by the way, are you talking about errors in the document, or missing links?
[03:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> mdke: example text missing. its in the "windows partitions" bit, all the example code (how to add blah line to fstab for example) is missing on my system
[03:29] <mdke> Kamping_Kaiser, is there a link to the code?
[03:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> i havent gone beond browsing the pages in help, so what sort of link?
[03:30] <mdke> like "see this example" in blue, which you can click on
[03:31] <mdke> or there is literally a bit missing?
[03:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, there is literaly a bit missing
[03:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> *adds to 'bugs to file' list.
[03:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> is this launchpad or bugzilla?
[03:32] <mdke> bugzilla
[03:32] <mdke> i'm not sure if that will get fixed actually
[03:32] <mdke> maybe it will be
[03:32] <mdke> if it isn't fixed in breezy, pls file the bug
[03:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. i have a list i need to add when i work out my bugzilla ccount again, so ill add it tothat
[03:33] <mdke> great thanks
[03:34] <mdke> jbailey, awake?
[03:35] <jbailey> mdke: Sortof.
[03:35] <mdke> lol
[03:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh
[03:35] <mdke> jbailey, i have got a bit of free time, shall I make that string change?
[03:37] <jbailey> mdke: Sure.  It seems we're in RC freeze now. =(  I thought I still had today.
[03:37] <jbailey> Ah well.
[03:37] <jbailey> It'll go in post RC.
[03:37] <mdke> cool
[03:37] <mdke> jbailey, for the localised omf files, shall i delete them and rerun the script? that should regenerate them right?
[03:38] <jbailey> That's the theory. =)
[03:38] <mdke> jbailey, or is it better to do it by hand so that the localised xml files don't get touched
[03:38] <jbailey> If you're feeling particularily brave (since we have an extra day) we could run the poxml against the OMF files for the aboutubuntu and get that entry translated for the menu
[03:39] <mdke> i wouldn't know how to do that
[03:39] <mdke> it might require regenerating the pot template and merging the translation po files...
[03:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> im going to (gasp shock horror) try and read through ubuntus (not unoffical) guide... see if i spot anything else obvious.
[03:47] <mdke> jbailey, string changed and committed
[03:47] <jbailey> Tx
[03:48] <mdke> we should update the translations too... but I guess that would be against the rules
[03:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry about not doing this look at help before, im noticing a lot  (some of which probably has bugs against it already, but ill look when i have my list) :(
[04:00] <mdke> np
[04:00] <mdke> you can fix em for next release
[04:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool.
[04:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> btw. i have a wiki account, what else do i need to do? (join the team in a formal way i asume?)
[04:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, im on the mail list
[04:02] <mdke> nope
[04:02] <mdke> when work is going on for dapper properly, just start submitting patches
[04:02] <mdke> but there is likely to be a bit of confusion until then while we work out our goals and working methods
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. well ill be around here, and im on the list, so when i can start being usefull i want to try :|
[04:03] <mdke> yep that would be good
[04:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks.
[04:25] <Riddell> who is Greg Taylor and Troy Williams?
[04:28] <mdke> Riddell, they are people who have worked on docs
[04:33] <Riddell> ok cool, just checking they weren't made up :)
[06:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> for the record, i made it to 'hardware', but i stoped to go to bed. soi ll see you all tomorrow i hope :)
[06:25] <mdke> night
[06:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> nigh :)
[06:30] <Riddell> mdke: could you apply this patch to branches/breezy/kde http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/docs2.diff
[06:32] <mdke> Riddell, lemme try
[06:33] <mdke> Riddell, what command am I using?
[06:33] <mdke> (sorry)
[06:34] <Riddell> mdke: don't worry, jjesse is back from lunch
[06:35] <mdke> Riddell, ok
[07:02] <jjesse> hey Riddell thanks for applying the style sheet that looks a heck of a lot better then what i did
[07:02] <jjesse> everyone else should check out the new kreleasenotes
[07:03] <Riddell> jjesse: they'll need to install kdelibs to do so :)
[07:03] <Kinnison> ciao all
[07:03] <jjesse> Riddell: or just svn up and build krn
[07:03] <jjesse> right?
[07:03] <Riddell> well it needs a stylesheet from kdelibs
[07:03] <jjesse> ah
[07:03] <Riddell> if they want to see the HTML
[07:55] <ompaul> that docs error I was talking about several hours ago :"The file /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html cannot be found. Please check the location and try again." the message coming from a browser.  I have paid more attention getting the last batch of updates and Update Mangler suggests that I use Synaptic Smart Upgrade or Distupgrade for ubuntu-docs, your opinion on if this is of value or just do the upgrade like the nice soft
[07:55] <ompaul> ware is telling me :)
[08:25] <jjesse> ompaul sorry i think i'm the only one at the keys and i use kubuntu
[08:26] <ompaul> jjesse, np, I have hours :)
[08:26] <ompaul> jjesse, its not really the kind of question I expected an answer in #ubuntu about ;-)
[08:29] <mdke> ompaul, that bug is fixed in the last ubuntu-docs
[08:30] <ompaul> mdke, so I should ignore the ubuntu-docs is held back and install it
[08:31] <mdke> ompaul, up to you
[08:35] <ompaul> mdke, done :)
[08:35] <ompaul> test in a min when it gets downloaded
[08:36] <mdke> i can guarantee that the file is there
[08:36] <mdke> it was fixed a couple of days ago
[08:37] <ompaul> Unpacking replacement ubuntu-docs ..
[08:38] <ompaul> mdke, what was getting me was it was telling me distupgrade / smart upgrade I would have thought that it should not have said that, but I don't know enough about apt
[08:38] <mdke> me neither
[08:39] <mdke> you'll need to dist-upgrade a few times while running the development release though
[08:39] <ompaul> :)
[08:39] <mdke> after release, it will be ok
[09:00] <jjesse> mdke is jbailey making the doc packages for kubuntu?
[09:01] <mdke> dunno
[09:01] <mdke> i think Riddell is doing it
[09:01] <jjesse> probablly
[09:01] <jjesse> i know jbailey mentioned something aobut it yesterday
[09:10] <jjesse> are we going to create a wiki page that is kubuntu release notes? we already have a breezy release notes
[09:10] <jjesse> but was just wondering about kubuntu release notes page
[09:28] <ompaul> mdke, okay that worked, all I need to do now is get the artwork for said page, but I guess that is not out until the badger gets released
[09:47] <jbailey> jjesse: It wasn't clear to me who was doing it.
[10:06] <jjesse> jbailey: me either that's why i was asking


[02:21] <czajkowski> mhall119: I am indeed
[02:21] <czajkowski> thanks ;)
[02:21] <czajkowski> been a busy year
[02:25] <czajkowski> Peanutbutter M&Ms and a diet coke
[02:25] <czajkowski> nice end to a busy day
[02:25] <czajkowski> just in from the Intrepid carrier- AMAZING
[07:00] <dholbach> good morning
[08:46] <nigelb> dholbach: I haz visa. I'll arrive in Berlin on July 10th and leave on 20th.
[08:46] <nigelb> We should grab a drink somewhere in between! :)
[08:47] <dholbach> nigelb, hum... that doesn't look good - I'll be gone from Berlin during the time :-(
[08:48] <nigelb> dang
[08:48] <nigelb> timing :(
[08:49] <dholbach> yeah - my girlfriend's dad married again, so we'll be at her home place for a longer time, then get back for a few hours, then head off to a festival
[08:49] <nigelb> heh, another time!
[08:50] <dholbach> yeah *crossing fingers!*
[09:01] <popey> dholbach: joined hangout.. just grabbing coffee, brb
[09:49] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:00] <dpm> popey, might be a couple of mins late for the call, just finishing off an e-mail
[10:00] <dpm> (same excuse jono tended to use :)
[10:02] <popey> k
[16:17] <dholbach> all rightie - see you tomorrow! bye!
[16:17] <belkinsa> Slaapwel, dholbach.
[16:17] <dholbach> :)
[22:59] <czajkowski> marcoceppi: cheers :)
[23:00] <marcoceppi> O/ czajkowski
[23:02] <czajkowski> what a day
[23:02] <czajkowski> 1700 very happy people
[23:02] <czajkowski> \o/
[23:02] <belkinsa> \o/
[23:04] <czajkowski> I am on the other hand a very happy but sleepy person!
[23:07] <czajkowski> oh just heard we were trending on twitter since tuesday
[23:07] <czajkowski> :o
[23:14] <belkinsa> mhall119, can you do me a favor?  I have a team meeting (in #ubuntu-meeting-2) on Friday the 27th of this month at 6 PM UTC but I will not be there.  Can you help the chair of the meeting if he needs help?
[23:32] <popey> #~/118
[23:32] <popey> bah
[23:35] <czajkowski> if you have 118 windows popey no idea how you get stuff done :p
[23:44] <popey> 144 ☻
[23:44] <jose> belkinsa: why use -meeting-2 is -meeting is available?
[23:45] <belkinsa> jose, because there is a bot there
[23:45] <belkinsa> the meeting one
[23:45] <jose> belkinsa: -meeting is the home of meetingology, just so you know
[23:45] <belkinsa> I know but it's not there
[23:46] <jose> then you can ask AlanBell to put it back there or restart the service so it can give me admin access :)
[23:46] <jose> s/ask/blame/
[23:46] <belkinsa> Done
[23:47] <jose> \o/


[08:33] <Odd_Bloke> simar: By default, modules will only run once per instance (i.e. on first boot), so it may be that whatever updates the hostname is configured to only run once.
[16:32] <simar> Odd_Bloke: I see, so defining a cloud-init module within cloud.cfg.d wouldn't have any effect if the hostname was previously configured by something else?
[16:33] <simar> The reason I asked is because me doing so didn't result in any changes. I'm not sure if the naming of the config matters, I made sure it came in order after all other configs before that.
[16:47] <harlowja> @smoser did we start getting CI???
[16:47] <harlowja> automatic CI
[16:48]  * harlowja just got message from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>:-P
[16:48] <nacc> heh, that should get renamed :)
[16:49] <nacc> powersj: --^
[16:49] <harlowja> :-P
[16:49] <nacc> harlowja: that was the server team's old QA person
[16:49] <harlowja> ah
[16:49] <powersj> haha
[16:49] <harlowja> nice, ha
[16:49] <nacc> harlowja: powersj is the new one
[16:49] <powersj> and yes.. CI is going
[16:49] <harlowja> woah
[16:49] <nacc> harlowja: nad i think powersj resurrected CI
[16:49] <nacc> *and
[16:49] <harlowja> is there any way to get the URLs accessible outside of canonical :)
[16:49] <nacc> heh, probably a good thing to do :)
[16:49] <harlowja> don't think i can view them (firewall...?)
[16:49] <powersj> It just got through all the existing merge requests and is now on 5min cron to review
[16:49] <nacc> and/or don't send internal URLs to an external list
[16:50] <powersj> Yeah the CI jobs are internally ran
[16:50] <harlowja> ya, internally ran is fine, having the output vieweable would be nice
[16:50] <nacc> right
[16:50] <harlowja> (otherwise hard to know what broke)
[16:51] <harlowja> that'd be sweet
[16:52] <harlowja> cool they are running though :)
[16:52] <powersj> ok let me talk to smoser and rharper about it
[16:54] <harlowja> cool, thx powersj and nacc :)
[16:54] <harlowja> cool to see progress here
[16:54] <harlowja> smoser where is git now ;)
[16:59] <smoser> powersj, yeah, we want urls that are available...
[17:00] <smoser> curtin too
[17:00] <powersj> figured :) this would mean a new jenkins instance
[17:05] <Odd_Bloke> simar: cloud-init will already have run when you launched the instance; it will have done hostname stuff and marked that as "done".  When you reboot, it will consider whether or not it needs to do it, see that it has already been done and skip doing it again.
[17:05] <Odd_Bloke> simar: (This is so that, for example, if you change your hostname away from what your cloud provider sets it to by default, it won't get reset every boot)
[18:21] <powersj> CI email address should be updated (at least my inbox says it is... holy cow)


[22:47] <ghantoos> marahib
[22:47] <ghantoos> (from lebanon)
[22:53] <youssefchaker> marahib
[22:53] <youssefchaker> (from VA)
[22:53] <youssefchaker> :P
[23:10] <Armageddon> ghantoos, you in leb ? :/
[23:12] <Armageddon> ghantoos, don't tell anyone that you are coming ! thanks a lot !
[23:13] <youssefchaker> Armageddon: didn't he send an email??
[23:13] <youssefchaker> i thought i saw one to the mailing list
[23:38] <Armageddon> wasn't him :/
[23:38] <Armageddon> that was daniel holbach
[23:38] <Armageddon> his name is dani sufi !
[23:39] <Armageddon> oh
[23:39] <Armageddon> that ghantoos' name is not dani :/
[23:39] <Armageddon> besides if he did I didn't get it


[00:24] <lfaraone> dfarning: sugar-firefox-activity is in Ubuntu.
[00:25] <lfaraone> dfarning: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/sugar-firefox-activity/6+dfsg-0ubuntu2
[00:26] <dfarning> lfaraone, I'll add it to the seed file this evening thanks.
[16:40]  * ishan is away for dinner
[16:40]  * ishan is away for dinner
[21:34] <manusheel> alsroot: Hi Aleksey.
[21:34] <manusheel> Around?
[21:35] <alsroot> manusheel: hi
[21:35] <manusheel> alsroot: How are you doing today?
[21:36] <alsroot> manusheel: fine, thanks
[21:37] <manusheel> alsroot: Glad to hear. Aleksey, Ishan and Anubhav were working on introducing an alert check to validate whether an activity should be downgraded or not. Wish to ask you which component/API of sugar looks after this aspect.
[21:40] <alsroot> manusheel: I think in journal code
[21:40] <manusheel> alsroot: Thank you.
[21:41] <alsroot> manusheel: misc.resume() restore journal objects


[00:32] <etneg> exit
[07:53] <dholbach> good morning
[18:55] <mainerror> o/
[18:55] <mainerror> http://meta.askubuntu.com/a/2633/2732
[18:55] <mainerror> What do you guys think?
[18:56] <mainerror> The mission was to design a Google Plus logo for Ask Ubuntu.
[18:56] <mainerror> It should somehow have Ask Ubuntu elements and Google Plus elements.
[20:12] <mainerror> https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/397723
[20:12] <cwt-bugs> Launchpad bug 397723 in Inkscape "Draw a chessboard in the background to know when alpha < 100%" (affected: 3, heat: 20) [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[20:13] <mainerror> Nice feature request.
[20:35] <mainerror> If I have an idea for an Ubuntu accessory, against which project would I file that bug?
[20:36] <mainerror> sladen: -^
[20:48] <sladen> mainerror: http://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branding/+filebug?field.title=Idea+for+Ubuntu+accessory
[20:49] <sladen> mainerror: no guarantee that Canonical would be able to help, but I we can at least make sure that it's saved somewhere for discussion
[20:51] <mainerror> Someone pointed out that it might not be a bug but an idea which should be posted on Ubuntu Brainstorm.
[20:51] <mainerror> It would be nice to have an Ubuntu Frisbee. :)
[20:52] <mainerror> That is the idea basically. :)
[20:52] <mainerror> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/29255/
[20:56] <sladen> mainerror: you should also put on there what you might be prepared to pay for it
[20:57] <sladen> mainerror: the design work should be easy (it's just the logo/circle of friends probably), but for turning it into a physical product you'll have to work out costings
[20:57] <sladen> and the business case
[20:58] <mainerror> The truth is, that I have no idea how much a Frisbee actually costs but because it would be an Ubuntu Frisbee I'd definitely pay more than for other Frisbees.
[20:59] <sladen> getting an orange frisbee of the correct colour will be hard;  so it might be easier to do orange ink silkscreened onto a white substrate
[20:59] <sladen> mainerror: well, would you pay $25 ?
[20:59] <mainerror> No no, that is why I proposed a white base with an orange CoF printed on it.
[20:59] <mainerror> I guess I'd do.
[21:01] <mainerror> Sure orange plastic with a white circle of friends would be amazing as well but just very expensive in production.
[21:18] <mainerror> Here are some mockups.
[21:18] <mainerror> http://i.imgur.com/0UuAm.jpg
[21:18] <mainerror> http://i.imgur.com/EmqRt.jpg
[21:18] <mainerror> http://i.imgur.com/xbfml.jpg
[21:18] <mainerror> I like the second one.
[21:37] <mainerror> This is how it could look like on an orange substrate.
[21:37] <mainerror> http://i.imgur.com/dfp03.jpg
[21:37] <mainerror> http://imgur.com/dfp03,i4vpa#1
[21:37] <mainerror> http://i.imgur.com/i4vpa.jpg
[21:46] <etneg> brb
[21:49] <MrChrisDruif> sys
[22:14] <sladen> mainerror: probably better to individually attach them to the bug report so that they don't get lost
[22:14] <sladen> mainerror: they did look good though
[22:18] <mainerror> So you think I should file a bug report?
[22:20] <sladen> mainerror: I think you should file *something* more concrete than just raising it on ITC
[22:20] <sladen> IRC
[22:20] <sladen> mainerror: somewhere where it can be discussed, and found via Google
[22:22] <mainerror> I did on Brainstorm. http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/29255/
[22:22] <mainerror> Just not sure if that is the right place.


[07:00] <gpunk> hi after this morning update , plasma is very slow, cpu at 100%
[09:42] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[21:35] <ant_feeder> Hi.. I am happily running Kubuntu 17.10 so far so good. Can someone tell me the implications of adding ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports and upgrading to plasma 5.12.2
[21:36] <ant_feeder> im currently on 5.10.5
[21:46] <mparillo> 99% will be happy adding backports. If this is your only production machine, and your data is not backed up, I would do so. Not just in case you are in the 1%, but as a good practice.
[21:47] <ant_feeder> thanks and will do on the back ups first
[21:50] <mparillo> And the smart money is you will be happy and will not need your backup. But you never know ...
[23:03] <ubunturox32> Hi can i get tech support here? I am having a problem with my dell inspiron 7559.. after installing kubuntu I can no longer access the boot menu. I've tried boot-repair, but it doesn't work. it gives me a error.
[23:05] <ubuntuguy32> Here's my error pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Z7dbYQfmbz/
[23:58] <Roey> hi
[23:58] <Roey> anyone here?


[01:55] <trippeh> [7341824.537568] ifquery[183]: segfault at 1 ip<PHONE_NUMBER>4031c8 sp 00007ffc76037c10 error 4 in ifup[400000+d000]
[01:55] <trippeh> oops ? :-)
[01:55] <trippeh> every boot. interesting.
[09:28] <apw> trippeh, looks like a bug in ifquery/ifup to me worth a bug i am sure
[09:31]  * ogra_ sighs ... when did we silently switch to intel_pstate ?
[09:32] <ogra_> totally trashed my update to vivid (cores switching to 133 MHz while the system is under full load, core temps constantly between 85 and 90°C )
[10:10]  * ogra_ files bug 1460399
[11:49] <apw> ogra_, do you have thermald installed as i believe that is meant to be programming those behaviours
[11:51] <ogra_> apw, dumping to 166 ot 133MHz is a thermald thing ?
[11:51] <ogra_> *or
[11:51] <ogra_> (under full load)
[11:52] <ogra_> it stopped doing that when i switched back to ondemand ...
[11:52] <trippeh> probably pstate enables the turbo states, making it run too hot for your cooling and crashing into thermal throttling
[11:54] <ogra_> well, the point is that it didnt manage to get the heat low enough and the BIOS emergency shutdown kicked in every 10-15min
[11:55] <ogra_> the system behaves properly after switching back to cpufreq
[11:55] <ogra_> (without making any other changes)
[11:56] <apw> trippeh, thermald does indeed allow turbo and other things, it should of course also not make your machine explode too
[11:56] <apw> ogra_, using pstat_idle is the recommneded option on these pieces of h/w so i am supprised of your experience
[11:56] <apw> ogra_, anyhow i've added cking to the thing becuase he did all the work on that back in the day
[11:57] <apw> (recommended by Intel, ...)
[11:57] <trippeh> inte_pstate has been working fine on my hardware, fwiw :)
[11:57] <ogra_> well, it diidnt help that i wasted 3h into trying to find out why X was so slow ... debugging graphics stuff :P the system really felt like i'm running something even sub-vesa ...
[11:57] <trippeh> even the tiny cooling challenged ultrabooks
[11:58] <ogra_> currently i'm fine ... once someone wants to debug it during the week i'm happy to collect data
[11:59] <ogra_> after all it got me to clean up 100 of my 150 constantly open firefox tabs ... so it had it's good sides ;)
[12:02] <apw> ogra_, yeah i'll poke cking monday and see what he thinks
[12:03] <ogra_> i only found an older bug from infinity who seemed to have the same issue but in another release
[12:03] <apw> trippeh, yeah same here, i have a shitey ulrabook [sic] and it is also fine
[12:03] <ogra_> bug 1188647
[12:03] <apw> ogra_, yeah and that was before we had thermald paired with it, the kernel bits are useless without hte daemon, and it wasnt packaged then
[12:04] <ogra_> ah
[12:04] <ogra_> thermald is quite noisy in syslog btw
[12:04] <apw> which is why i was trying to find out if you have thermald installed and if when in pstate it was running because that is mean to be "the way it works"
[12:04] <apw> yeah we ought to look at that, much of that thermal stuff is whiney
[12:04] <ogra_> yeah, i noticed :)
[12:05] <apw> if you could add your thermald logs for the bad period (if you cna identify them) they may be valuable
[12:05] <ogra_> i'll look them up
[12:18] <apw> thanks
[17:53] <bigdissaved>  Morning, I am wondering what how I can recomend a kernel driver be added to the dist? It is for the rtl8812AU AC 1200 wireless chip. I have it working on my system, but it is very anoying that I have to recompile and install it every kernel/system update. It is in my garage, and wifi is the only connection that it has.
[17:53] <bigdissaved> https://github.com/abperiasamy/rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux  this is the source code tree that I am using, and it works flawlesly for my self with 15.04 and 14.04.2


[02:55] <ScottK> debfx: Can you go through and very the fixes you included with 4.8.5 for library file overwrite issues over the weekend, so 4.8.5 can go to -updates on Monday?
[06:48] <mah454> Hello
[06:48] <mah454> I want to change default clock format to jalali calendar .
[06:48] <mah454> How can do this ?
[07:37] <debfx> ScottK: I don't think I can verify bugs when I'm the uploader
[08:07] <apachelogger> mah454: iff one installs with a language/locale that is supposed to happen automatically
[08:08] <apachelogger> if this is not the case the setting would be in systemsettings' locale configuration
[08:16]  * shadeslayer tickles apachelogger
[08:17]  * apachelogger leaves :P
[08:18] <shadeslayer> aw, don't be like that now
[08:22] <mah454> apachelogger: i need change it for all new users
[08:23] <mah454> chnage default calendar format to jalali for all new users
[08:23] <mah454> how can do this ?
[09:34] <mah454> this script is true ? clock.calendarType("jalali");
[09:35] <mah454> I want add this to DefaultLayout.js in KDE templates ...
[09:37] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1051194] package libqtcore4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: nicht vollständig gelesen ... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1051194 (by bssmusic)
[10:14] <shadeslayer> mah454: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps/plasma-desktop/init/00-defaultLayout.js
[10:14] <shadeslayer> read that
[10:14] <mah454> shadeslayer: I want change default calendar for all users to Jalali
[10:15] <mah454> How can do this ?
[10:15] <shadeslayer> should be doable using plasma desktop scripting
[10:15] <shadeslayer> read the file I just pointed out
[10:15] <shadeslayer> then create something like 01-my-defaults.js
[10:20] <shadeslayer> KDE 4.9.1 packages in staging : https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging
[10:20] <shadeslayer> My upgrade from ninjas went fine last night, so let me know if you have issues
[10:22] <mah454> KDE 4.9 stored in kubuntu-update repository ?
[10:23] <shadeslayer> nope, I've put it in staging atm
[10:24] <shadeslayer> I'll copy it this evening
[10:24] <shadeslayer> ( to kubuntu backports )
[11:13] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: calendar has nothing to do with plasma
[11:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I thought he was talking about the plasma widget calendar
[11:14] <apachelogger> that also obeys klocale I should hope
[11:15] <apachelogger> mah454: echo $LANG
[11:15] <mah454> apachelogger: en_US.UTF-8
[11:16] <apachelogger> is that intended?
[11:25] <apachelogger> great, now I don't see the painting delay from yesterday in ubiquity anymore
[11:25] <apachelogger> hooray -.-
[11:29] <shadeslayer> dpkg-source: info: applying bypass-braindead-buildsystem
[11:29] <shadeslayer> rofl
[11:31] <mparillo> shadeslayer: When you wrote that the KDE SC 4.9.1 packages are in staging, does that mean you would like somebody to test applying them? I just installed a 10.4.1 virtualized image just in case.
[11:31] <shadeslayer> mparillo: yus :)
[11:31] <shadeslayer> mparillo: see https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging
[11:33] <mparillo> so I need to add a new repository to Muon?
[11:33] <shadeslayer> temporarily, yes
[11:36] <mparillo> I was going to add under Other Software ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging
[11:36] <mparillo> But it asks for something like deb http://...
[11:37] <shadeslayer> mparillo: use : deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging/ubuntu precise main
[11:37] <mparillo> So, I use:
[11:37] <mparillo> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging/ubuntu precise main
[11:37] <mparillo> ?
[11:37] <shadeslayer> yep
[11:37] <shadeslayer> I just do add-apt-repository via command line
[11:37] <shadeslayer> that's the easiest way
[11:39] <mparillo> So, now I have done it, and Muon shows a TON of Not Installed packages.
[11:39] <shadeslayer> aye, mark all of them for a upgrade
[11:39] <yofel> hm, software-properties *should* support ppa: syntax - or that simply isn't implemented in the KDE one (which sounds likely)
[11:39] <yofel> also, please make sure you disable the PPA again after installing the packages
[11:40] <shadeslayer> ^ that's why I said temporarily ;)
[11:40] <yofel> ah right :)
[11:40] <mparillo> Hmm, there is not the normal mark for upgrades checkbox.
[11:40] <yofel> check for updates first
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:41] <yofel> hi BluesKaj
[11:41] <BluesKaj> hey yofel
[11:43] <shadeslayer> mparillo: yofel ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa worked for me
[11:45] <yofel> hm, someone forgot to take calligra out of the ISO's - with wallpapers and libreoffice added we've hit the size limit
[12:01] <mparillo> Shadeslayer: Hmmm, it did not say re-start required, but I will try anyway.
[12:05] <shadeslayer> wut
[12:05] <shadeslayer> why would you restart :P
[12:10] <apachelogger> no xnox :(
[12:12] <mparillo> shadeslayer: After a re-bot of my VM, opening Dolphin, about KDE, I get: KDE - Be Free!
[12:12] <mparillo> Platform Version 4.9.1
[12:12] <mparillo> I call that a successful test case execution!
[12:13] <mparillo> s /re-bot/re-boot/
[12:14] <shadeslayer> :D
[12:14] <shadeslayer> alright then, I'll copy it to backports
[12:15] <shadeslayer> mparillo: fwiw you can just relogin to get the new KDE
[12:15] <shadeslayer> no need to reboot
[12:16] <shadeslayer> mparillo: I believe you have a release announcement ready somewhere?
[12:20] <shadeslayer> alrighty, debs copied
[12:26] <shadeslayer> !find stylerc
[12:34] <mparillo> shadeslayer: I do. It is written, but not published. I do not know if Riddell has reviewed it yet.
[12:35] <shadeslayer> mparillo: please add the information about backported packages as wel
[12:35] <shadeslayer> *well
[12:45] <mparillo> shadeslayer: I published the news item. It is the lead news item on http://www.kubuntu.org/
[12:46] <shadeslayer> awesome :D
[13:09] <tsimpson> anyone can update a news item: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-plasma-workspaces-applications-and-platform-491 <- the link to "KDE SC 4.9.1" has an extraneous double-quote one the end of the link
[13:25] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: sec
[13:25] <ScottK> debfx: You can.
[13:25] <ScottK> The only thing you can't do if you're the uploader is approve/accept the upload.
[13:26] <ScottK> (which only affects SRU team members)
[13:27] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: fixed
[13:28] <tsimpson> thanks
[13:35] <debfx> ScottK: that seems a bit pointless to me since uploading should already imply that it's tested by the one who prepared the package
[13:36] <ScottK> Right, but you would have tested before the upload.  The goal is to test the actual packages in the archive in case something went astray.
[13:36] <ScottK> We're relying on the fact that the SRU team reviews the diff for each upload.
[13:37] <ScottK> For hardware specific stuff we might want more testing, but for something simple like thses, I think it's fine.
[13:39] <ScottK> It would be nice if someone could verify the fixes for phonon-backend-gstreamer too.
[13:48] <debfx> ok, I hope I got all file overwrite bugs
[13:56] <BluesKaj> ScottK, which fixes for phonon-backend-gstreamer ...I've been using the vlc backend
[13:58] <apachelogger> oh actually
[13:59] <apachelogger> tsdgeos may want to verify one of them
[13:59] <apachelogger> BluesKaj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon-backend-gstreamer/+bug/1028903/comments/1
[14:02] <BluesKaj> ok , thanks apachelogger
[14:23] <Sentynel> hi folks, looks like there's a minor packaging error with today's 12.04 kubuntu-backports kde update - the kopete package refuses to install due to a conflict with kopete-gcall over /usr/bin/googletalk-call. removing the kopete-gcall package and reinstalling kopete seems to fix things
[14:27] <mparillo> tsimpson shadeslayer sorry about that extra double quote. Innacuarate copying and pasting, I bet.
[14:28] <shadeslayer> mparillo: np
[16:18] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Is the kopete-gcall issue Sentynel mentioned from your update?
[16:18] <ScottK> debfx: Thanks.
[16:18] <shadeslayer> huh? where?
[16:19] <shadeslayer> hm
[16:19]  * shadeslayer looks
[16:20] <Sentynel> kopete-gcall is a really old package apparently, and should have been long gone
[16:20] <shadeslayer> aye
[16:21] <shadeslayer> I can't find it in precise :)
[16:21] <Sentynel> http://pastebin.com/AHgzTaRK here's the exact error
[16:21] <shadeslayer> I did a clean install on my system and ugprade from whaterver was on 12.04.1 to 4.9.1 .. no issues
[16:21] <shadeslayer> 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu1
[16:21] <shadeslayer> gosh
[16:22] <Sentynel> yeah, I dunno how the heck that was still there
[16:22] <ScottK> shadeslayer: If it's an old package, just add conflicts/breaks.
[16:22] <shadeslayer> ScottK: yeah, that's what I was thinking
[16:22] <ScottK> Obviously if you don't have the old package installed, you won't get the error.
[16:22] <shadeslayer> yep ...
[16:24] <shadeslayer> ScottK: should I also add it to quantal packages?
[16:24] <ScottK> It went away after 4.6.
[16:24] <ScottK> So we should add it in precise and leave quantal alone.
[16:24] <shadeslayer> alright
[16:24] <ScottK> Sentynel: Would you please file a bug.
[16:25] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Would you please prepare an update to the pending 4.8.5 SRU for kdenetworking that fixes it and upload it.  I can accept it then.
[16:25] <shadeslayer> ScottK: sure
[16:25] <shadeslayer> give me a couple of minutes ....
[16:25] <ScottK> Thanks.  Ping me when it's uploaded.
[16:29] <Sentynel> ScottK: sure, where?
[16:29] <ScottK> bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetworking
[16:30] <ScottK> Or not
[16:31] <Sentynel> it's kdenetwork
[16:32] <ScottK> Yeah
[16:32] <ScottK> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork
[16:33] <Sentynel> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/1051333
[16:39] <ScottK> shadeslayer: ^^^
[16:39] <shadeslayer> aye, I'll get to it right after dinner
[16:42] <ScottK> I updated where it was targeted and assigned it to you.
[16:42] <ScottK> Thanks.
[16:59] <shadeslayer> ScottK: uploaded
[16:59] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Thanks.
[17:01] <shadeslayer> Sentynel: thanks for pointing that out :)
[17:03] <Sentynel> no worries
[17:53] <bambee> Hi, is it possible to disable the check "scanning for Btrfs filesystems" at bootup ? it's very slow and I have not btrfs partitions...
[17:54] <yofel> bambee: set check pass to 0 in fstab
[17:54] <yofel> as of quantal fsck.btrfs is a noop at boot
[17:55] <bambee> strange :\
[17:55] <yofel> which release are you on?
[17:55] <bambee> I use the development branch
[17:55] <bambee> so quantal
[17:55] <bambee> and it's up to date
[17:55] <yofel> hm... it shouldn't be slow there...
[17:56] <yofel> use the fstab setting then
[17:57] <bambee> yofel: the boot takes... 45s - 1 min... and "scanning for btrfs filesystems" takes... 30s...
[17:58] <yofel> hm
[17:58] <yofel> wait
[17:58] <bambee> on precise the boot was really fast
[17:58] <yofel> not sure why the *scan* would take so long unless you have a weird disk setup. #btrfs might know something
[17:59] <yofel> sorry, have to go now, bbl
[18:01] <bambee> np
[18:01] <bambee> thanks for your help
[18:20] <ScottK> shadeslayer: The last version of kopete-gcall in the archive was  4:4.6.2-0ubuntu1, so your versioning is incorrect.  Since we want the package removed, just drop the version and re-upload.
[18:21] <shadeslayer> k
[18:32] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Thanks.
[18:32] <ScottK> Looking
[18:34] <ScottK> Shouldn't that be Conflicts/Replaces?
[18:35] <shadeslayer> you said Conflicts/Breaks earlier ;)
[18:37] <shadeslayer> Though since we declare Conflicts, I believe dpkg will first remove kopete-gcall
[18:37] <shadeslayer> which in turn will allow kopete to be unpacked without issues
[18:37] <ScottK> Please don't assume I know what I'm talking about.
[18:37] <ScottK> In the good old days (pre-Breaks) it would have been Conflicts/Replaces.
[18:38] <shadeslayer> :)
[18:38] <ScottK> I think this is one of the situations where you still want Conflicts.
[18:38] <ScottK> Since you want the package to go away entirely.
[18:38] <shadeslayer> Aye
[18:39] <shadeslayer> ScottK: long day ? :P
[18:39] <ScottK> Sorry for the confusion.
[18:39] <ScottK> Long week.  Day will be a lot longer before it's done.
[18:39] <shadeslayer> ah .. :)
[18:43] <shadeslayer> ScottK: uh, rejected again?
[18:43] <ScottK> Didn't we decide it was wrong?
[18:44] <ScottK> Because you made the mistake of listening to me.
[18:44] <shadeslayer> wait, I believe Conflicts removes kopete-gcall, so why the need to add Replaces?
[18:45] <shadeslayer> since the package will have been already removed, there's no file that kopete will be conflicting with
[18:45] <ScottK> No.
[18:46] <ScottK> Conflicts just says they can't both be installed at the same time.
[18:46] <ScottK> It's the Replaces that tells dpkg to resolve the conflict by removing kopete-gcall.
[18:46] <shadeslayer> ahhhh
[18:46] <ScottK> A bare conflicts will just cause one package to fail to install/upgrade.
[18:46]  * shadeslayer read the docs incorrectly
[18:48] <shadeslayer> gosh :P
[18:49] <shadeslayer> uploaded again
[18:51]  * ScottK looks again.
[18:54] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Accepted.  Thanks.
[18:54] <shadeslayer> wohoo
[18:54] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Don't forget to fix your PPA packages too.
[18:54]  * shadeslayer goes back to splitting his sources
[18:54] <shadeslayer> ScottK: already uploading
[18:54] <ScottK> Great.
[18:59] <Riddell> bonsoir
[19:00] <shadeslayer> ohai Riddell
[19:00] <Riddell> what's new?
[19:01] <ScottK> Riddell: The fixed LibreOffice is building, so I went ahead and uploaded the new kubuntu-meta that reflects the seed changes from the KC meeting.
[19:01] <ScottK> Last night's images were insanely large because (I think) they had both LO and all of Calligra on them.
[19:02] <ScottK> I may have powerpc hardware soon, so I might be able to start testing that.  Not sure for Beta 2, but almost certainly before release.
[19:06] <shadeslayer> trying to figure out why plasma doesn't read the proper configs that I set :P
[19:07] <Riddell> ScottK: you're getting an old mac?  or some obscure new thing?
[19:07] <ScottK> Old Mac.
[19:08] <ScottK> Circa 2005.
[19:59] <mparillo> shadeslayer: The KDE SCE 4.9.1 PPA for 10.4.x does *NOT* upgrade rekonq, right? I am still at rekonq
[19:59] <mparillo> Version 0.9.1. That is working as designed?
[19:59] <shadeslayer> yep
[19:59] <mparillo> s/10.4/12.04/
[19:59] <kubotu> mparillo: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[19:59] <shadeslayer> should not upgrade rekonq
[19:59] <shadeslayer> however I see 1.0 in backports
[20:00] <mparillo> but that is a separate additon, right?
[20:00] <shadeslayer> mparillo: http://paste.kde.org/549614/
[20:00] <shadeslayer> nope
[20:05] <Riddell> mparillo: rekonq isn't part of KDE SC
[20:05] <Riddell> it's released separately
[20:10] <mparillo> TY both. I seem to have lost muon entirely.
[20:21] <mparillo> I re-installed muon, and added ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports to my Software Sources > Other Software, but it says rekonq is installed, and no change is requested. I added Pre-Released updates to Kubuntu Updates tab, but it still said no change is requested.
[20:29] <Riddell> mparillo: what makes you think it's not installed?
[20:31] <mparillo> Oh, rekonq is installed, but I am wondering how to upgrade it.
[20:31] <yofel> to which version? precise has 1.0 in backports from what I see
[20:34] <apachelogger> mercy I say
[20:34] <mparillo> Exactly. I have gotten used to the new version in the 12.10 beta and was wondering how to get it on 12.04.
[20:35] <yofel> ah, that'll need a backport first
[20:36] <mparillo> So I added ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports to my muon.
[20:41] <Riddell> mparillo: nobody has done a backport
[20:41] <Riddell> oh
[20:44] <Riddell> mparillo: nobody has done a backport
[20:47] <mparillo> Fine by me. I was getting ready to go back to the daily 12.10 build anyway. I just loaded 12.04.1 because I thought shadeslayer might have liked a quick test of KDE SC 4.9.1 on 12.04.1
[20:55] <mparillo> Wow, the daily images is over a GB. Does it have both LO and Calligra? I saw something about LO menus
[21:03] <Riddell> mparillo: yes I think that'll be why
[22:02] <shadeslayer> night


[15:08] <ikonia> topic
[15:08] <ikonia> I'm trying to do a bullet list and a numbered list in the wiki
[15:08] <ikonia> I'm using 1*; as suggested by the help pages, but that doesn't appear to be the correct syntax
[15:08] <ikonia> what is the correct lists for numbered/bullet syntax
[15:57] <ikonia> sorry, correct synatax that should rad
[15:57] <ikonia> read
[20:04] <mdke> ikonia: i don't understand the question - you want numbers and bullets together in the same list?
[20:04] <mdke> if so, this works:
[20:04] <mdke>  1. test
[20:04] <mdke>   * test
[20:04] <mdke>   * test
[20:04] <mdke>  1. test
[20:05] <jjesse_> test
[20:05] <mdke> you need a space before your "1." in each case.
[20:53] <ikonia> mdke: thank you, I'll try that now, i think I may have missunderstood the guide
[20:53] <ikonia> mdke: I wanted to lists, 1 was a numbered list, theother was a bullet
[22:12] <mdke> ikonia: the same principle should apply. if you still haven't got it, maybe show me the page and I'll see if it can be fixed
[22:15] <ikonia> alredy got it
[22:16] <mdke> ok
[22:16] <ikonia> after you showed me the number list, I worked out how I'd miss-understood it
[22:16] <ikonia> applied it to the bullet, works fine
[22:16] <ikonia> thank you for that
[22:16] <mdke> np
[22:16] <ikonia> I'd completly miss-understood the example
[23:03] <vadi2> Is it possible to create an apt: link in the wiki?
[23:05] <dsas> vadi2: Try the preview.
[23:05] <dsas> vadi2: I think there is a bug for it though
[23:05] <dsas> Not sure if it's for w.u.c or h.u.c
[23:05] <vadi2> I don't know the proper syntax for it
[23:05] <vadi2> At least, syntax for html ones isn't working
[23:06] <dsas> apt:packagename
[23:06] <dsas> or [[apt:packagename Install packagename]] I think.
[23:07] <vadi2> Not workin'


[01:15] <dg_> Hello, I wondered if the 3.3 kernel (with the power usage fixes) will be backported to Ubuntu 12.04 (LTS)
[01:23] <bryce> dg_, debs of 3.3-rc1 @ http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.3-rc1-precise/
[04:13] <Gerald> hi
[04:19] <Gerald> hm what is causing this issue? http://codepad.org/SAeKiFJr
[05:55] <dg_> hi bryce, does that mean that 12.04 will ship with the 3.3 kernel instead of 3.2?
[06:34] <bryce> dg_, it does not mean that
[15:52] <hallyn> am i the only one for whom the new 3.2.0-10-generic kernel won't boot?
[15:53] <hallyn> i'll have to get a screenshot of the msg i get, it's one i've notseen before
[18:16] <Gerald_> why is the module not correctly removed from the kernel? http://codepad.org/zClCoi4t
[22:28] <vanhoof> cnd: have you seen any bugs filed lately where the window sizing handles have dissapeared on precise?
[22:28] <vanhoof> cnd: three finger tap on a magic trackpad
[22:39] <cnd> vanhoof, utouch is going to be broken for a while on precise until we finish some work on utouch-geis
[22:39] <cnd> though it should still be working if you don't have any ppas installed
[22:40] <vanhoof> cnd: nah, no PPAs here, just an upgrade from Oneiric
[22:40] <cnd> but as soon as we upload the new X bits, which probably will happen monday, utouch-based gestures will disappear for a bit
[22:40] <vanhoof> cnd: four finger tap still works, as does three, just lost the window handles
[22:40] <cnd> there may be changes in the latest unity too, which I don't really know about
[22:40] <vanhoof> cnd: gotcha
[22:40] <vanhoof> cnd: yeah, just curious if you'd come across any bugs that might match up


[00:01] <RoadRunner> how to stop the "Incomplete Language Support" box from appearing at start up every time?
[01:24] <RoadRunner> is anybody out there?
[01:53] <xangua> We're all fundamentally lonely
[01:56] <RoadRunner> lonely but helpfull right? :)


 Moved the db yesterday.
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> database broken?
[06:29] <lordievader> No seems more like the client is using privacy extensions while it shouldn't.
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> ah
[06:30] <lordievader> The connection came from an ip which did not resolve back to an allowed host.
[06:30] <lordievader> Stupid networkd.
[06:38] <ducasse> the good thing about networkd is that finally there's a way to configure networking that works across distributions
[06:40] <lordievader> It might not be networkd... the mac changed in the reboot somehow...
[06:41] <ducasse> are you trying to disable ipv6 privacy extensions?
[06:41] <lordievader> It already is.
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> can lynis help lordievader for a full overview?
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> !info lynis
[06:43] <lordievader> I fixed the dns. Now the reverse point to the correct name. Still the db won't let me access.
[06:43] <jink> DNS lookups are cached, usually.
[06:44] <lordievader> Indeed it seemed like mysql cached the answer.
[06:45] <jink> Which makes sense, considering it's supposed to be performant.
[06:46] <lordievader> True
[06:46] <lordievader> But for these cases it is annoying ;)
[06:46] <lordievader> Thanks for thinking along with me :)
[07:03] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: what do you think of ubports so far?
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: to me it looks like an improved ubuntu touch
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: aka, they took up where UT left it, and progress it
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> bbl breakfast :p
[07:23] <ducasse> enjoy :)
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[07:25] <ducasse> ttyl
[07:29] <EriC^^> pizza is rising
[07:29] <EriC^^> i tried a different recipe this time, involved garlic powder in the dough and italian seasonings, hmm
[07:30] <EriC^^> hey ducasse lordievader
[07:45] <lordievader> Hey EriC^^
[07:58] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[08:00] <EriC^^> good thanks, you?
[08:19] <lordievader> Doing good here :)
[08:20] <EriC^^> :)
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> back
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> how was the pizza EriC^^
[09:20] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: not bad, it was pretty fluffy, i couldn't get the edges to get brown, it's been a problem
[09:20] <EriC^^> this time i did it according to another video, 180'c for 20mins
[09:21] <EriC^^> last time it was 260'c for 7mins
[09:21] <EriC^^> also the edges weren't brown, but sometimes they were, hmm
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> mmm
[09:22] <EriC^^> maybe at a lower degree 220'c it would still give some time before the cheese went bad and the edges got brown
[09:23] <EriC^^> so like 220 for 10-12mins
[09:26] <EriC^^> for some reason i didnt like this pizza that much, usually i'm more excited to eat it and stuff and eat the whole thing almost
[09:27] <EriC^^> must be the garlic in the dough and italian seasoning, plus the video said to use more oil than the other (2 tablespoon's vs 1)
[09:27] <EriC^^> i'm sticking with the other one
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> carlic is so nice
[09:33] <EriC^^> yeah i liked it in the mozarella sticks a lot, i dont think i like it on bread or pizza though
[09:33] <EriC^^> i got the italian seasoning stuff for the mozarella sticks mainly, cant wait to try those again
[10:12] <oerheks> What does 'iOT' actually stand for?
[10:12] <oerheks> .. idiots own technology ?
[10:12] <oerheks> http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/parrot-manages-fool-amazons-alexa-11207953
[12:11] <lordievader> IOT can be fun ;)
[12:13] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:21] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj '
[12:21] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[13:04] <oerheks> yay, http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-linux-love-deepens-its-now-one-of-open-source-initiatives-big-backers/
[15:02] <nicomachus> oerheks: and bill gates switched to Android!
[15:04] <oerheks> Yes, he wrote that on his ipad
[15:04] <oerheks> grinn
[15:05] <oerheks> i still have mixed feelings about bash-on-windows..
[15:06] <leftyfb> it's better than not
[15:31] <nicomachus> I haven't been able to try it because I don't have any windows machines left except my work desktop...
[15:32] <nicomachus> And I installed Ubuntu in a VM on there, so what do I need BoW for?
[15:32] <nicomachus> (sidenote: Someone was dumb enough to give me admin credentials on the work network)
[15:34] <oerheks> stuxnet 3.0 .. the show must go on :-D
[16:38] <nacc> lol https://imgur.com/a/n4EIw
[16:56] <oerheks> an amazon update, love it, it is going to be great!
[16:57] <oerheks> ah, update is because that amazon thingy does not play youtube anymore?
[17:52] <nacc> oerheks: i have no idea
[17:52] <nacc> oerheks: i think it's a bug, as the nested update is for apt itself
[17:55] <oerheks> on what ubuntu was this?
[18:01] <nacc> 17.10
[18:01] <nacc> wonder if i need a reboot :)
[18:02] <oerheks> amazon .. yes :-F
[18:29] <immu> BluesKaj, ducasse lordievader hi all ?
[20:36] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Pardon my poor memory, but, are you working the Danish translations ?


 :P :)
[07:27] <svij> tsimonq2: nope, that means I destroyed the one before^^
[07:28] <dpm> ouch :/
[07:29] <svij> I was lying in my bed with my pixel c (tablet) which I was holding over my head … which I then dropped. It fell directly onto my incisor and broke it. The aluminium frame was too hard for my tooth :/
[07:29]  * svij should have used an ubuntu tablet…
[07:30] <tsimonq2> svij: ow, well that sucks :(
[07:33] <svij> tsimonq2: yep. :/
[07:33] <svij> destroying the tablet would have been cheaper…
[08:54] <tsimonq2> dholbach: just out of curiosity, who's doing the Q&A today?
[08:54] <dholbach> tsimonq2, we haven't decided yet
[08:54] <tsimonq2> dholbach: alright :)
[10:14] <Mister_Q> dpm_ ping
[10:27] <dpm> Hi Mister_Q, sorry, I was on the phone
[10:27] <Mister_Q> Hey :)
[10:28] <Mister_Q> I'm in a different time zone today and some parts of my calendar are not aware of that. So when is our ubucon meeting again?
[10:28] <dpm> Mister_Q, in 3 hours time
[10:29] <Mister_Q> thanks :)
[13:15]  * popey waves the "Q&A" flag
[13:15]  * popey pokes mhall119 ^
[13:17] <mhall119> I'm game
[13:17] <popey> I can't unfortunately.
[13:17] <dpm> ha, I was just going to ping mhall119 and davidcalle about it
[13:17] <popey> worth setting up before the next meeting though IMO
[13:18] <dpm> yep, I was just on it
[13:32]  * svij pokes dpm
[13:32] <dpm> svij, omw
[13:32] <svij> trello is down \o/
[13:32] <dpm> as soon as the browser is responsive, that is
[13:32] <dpm> oh
[13:32] <svij> oh it's back
[13:33] <dpm> svij, please go ahead without me, I think I'll need to restart, I'll be back in 2 minutes
[13:56] <svij> orr, chromium crashed
[14:03] <mhall119> dpm: joining us?
[14:05] <dpm> mhall119, omw, svij was keeping me!
[14:08] <svij> mhall119: he's lying he left 5min ago :P
[14:25] <svij> dpm: you told us last time that someone asked for hotel information. Do you remember who that was? We added it to the page: http://ubucon.org/en/events/ubucon-europe/travel-and-accommodation/ not many infomation though.
[14:56] <dpm> svij, that was tsimonq2, and czajkowski, I think. Thanks for adding the info!
[15:01] <tsimonq2> dpm: no problem :)
[15:05] <svij> ok, so I don't need to ping them anymore :)
[15:07] <czajkowski> eh?
[15:07] <svij> czajkowski: did you ask for hotels for ubucon europe?
[15:09] <czajkowski> I did yes
[15:09] <czajkowski> sorry multitasking and only saw the name ighlight
[15:09] <czajkowski> :)
[15:09] <svij> ah, see link above, it's not a huge list, though.
[15:14] <czajkowski> cheers
[16:23] <dholbach> all right my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow again! :-)


[16:32] <bhechinger> Got a link to the message?  I wasn't having it.
[18:00] <bhechinger> Yeah, that was not how you deal with things. Some people.
[18:02] <Eickmeyer> What I don't get is why he had the audacity to personally email me about something that was clearly happening Ubuntu-wide.
[19:05] <bhechinger> Because for whatever reason people do that. I'm on a ton of Slack servers for stuff like go, kubernetes, etc and people DM questions to me all the time.


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[00:58] <rickyrayjay> how do i make desktop icons not become widgits? i would like the ability to arrange them as i like
[04:07] <xtriz> anyone can guide me in about rebranding kubuntu ? I have done almost everything, only left is the name of kubuntu that comes on the kde menu and in the muon software centre ?
[04:10] <valorie> what do you mean, rebranding?
[04:16] <xtriz> valorie, i am creating custom distro based on kubuntu so i need to remove the kubuntu logos and name.
[04:17] <valorie> huh
[04:17] <xtriz> valorie, what happened ?
[04:18] <valorie> I have no clue, but you might see how other custom distros do it
[04:18] <valorie> I assume they create their own logos and sub them
[04:18] <xtriz> valorie, are their any kubuntu derivatives ?
[04:19] <valorie> have you looked at sites like http://www.howtoforge.com/creating-a-kde-live-cd-dvd-using-kubuntu ?
[04:19] <valorie> sure, I know netrunner is one
[04:20] <valorie> and I guess Mint
[04:20] <valorie> this is the official guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeDistroHowto
[04:21] <xtriz> valorie, that link will be useful, i can check netrunner and how they have done.
[04:21] <valorie> why do you want a completely custom distro?
[04:23] <xtriz> valorie, i want to  make my own distro will customized settings.
[04:30] <yofel> xtriz: most of the branding is done by kubuntu-settings, so you'll want to replace that with a copy of your defaults
[04:30] <xtriz> yofel, great checking that out
[04:32] <xtriz> yofel, all the kubuntu related branding are in this packaged ?
[04:35] <yofel> not sure if it's all, but most of the desktop stuff is in there (like the menu logo etc.)
[04:36] <xtriz> yofel, cool :)
[04:56] <xtriz> yofel, figured everything out, now only one thing left is that, in muon software center do i have to modify the package so as to remove the provided by Kubuntu ?
[05:32] <xtriz> yofel, prob solved :)
[05:48] <xtriz> for gnome their is dconf editor , for kde is their something similar to it ?
[05:53] <valorie> xtriz: it looks like gnome's is actuall gconf editor
[05:54] <valorie> and dconf is more generic
[05:54] <xtriz> valorie, ok
[05:55] <valorie> although a lot of that is set in systemsettings
[05:55] <xtriz> to cuztomize kde themes is a prob know as it doesn't have dconf or gconf editor.
[05:56] <valorie> did you see this? http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma/Theme
[05:57] <tsimpson> there is also kreadconfig and kwriteconfig, but those are not as advanced as gconf or dconf
[05:58] <xtriz> valorie, that is quite useful, i can directly place the themes under the respective folders and tada it's done :D
[05:59] <xtriz> tsimpson, checking those out.
[05:59] <valorie> KDE is created to be customizeable
[06:02] <xtriz> valorie, in a similar way i can customize application appearance and workspace appearance too right ?
[06:03] <valorie> yes
[06:03] <valorie> most apps use the themes you choose
[06:03] <valorie> some might have their own theming, but that is usually independent stuff
[06:04] <xtriz> valorie, what is the general directory under which all this options are stored ?
[06:04] <valorie> I don't know; isn't it covered in the theming tut?
[06:04] <xtriz> /usr/share /
[06:06] <xtriz> got the directory /share/app/desktoptheme
[06:07] <valorie> I've never done what you are attempting
[06:07]  * valorie is pretty satisfied with the presets
[06:07] <xtriz> valorie, ok :)
[06:07] <valorie> except desktop photos
[06:08] <xtriz> :)
[09:20] <infrid> hi
[09:21] <lordievader> Hey infrid
[10:03] <frosted> Hey guys, what is the command , if I want to say have when I press the windows key it opens the kick off apllication launcher ?
[10:03] <frosted>
[10:04] <lordievader> frosted: The windows key (super key) is a modifier like shift or ctrl, so the keyboard shortcut won't be the windows key alone (unless you apply hacks).
[10:04] <lordievader> a modifier key*
[10:05] <frosted> lordievar okay thats fine but if I want a keyboard shortcut to open the kickoff aplication launcher, what is the command I need to enter to open the menu ?
[10:06] <frosted> lordievader okay thats fine but if I want a keyboard shortcut to open the kickoff aplication launcher, what is the command I need to enter to open the menu ?
[10:07] <lordievader> frosted: Thought there was a preset for it but I cannot find it, let me look through qdbus.
[10:08] <frosted> I thought there was one as well. but after I installed I have nothing on my panel had to add everything manually. usually things like system status is atleast there
[10:14] <lordievader> frosted: Ah, found it, when you right click the menu and hit Application Launcher Settings -> Keyboard shortcut, you can set the keyboard shortcut.
[10:27] <BluesKaj_> Hi folks
[10:35] <frosted_> Hi
[10:42] <Papa_> Hello everyone.
[10:43] <Papa_> I'm having a problem with the mouse arrow.
[10:43] <Papa_> I select the dimensions but after a few minutes, it gets bigger
[10:43] <Papa_> And I'm not my grandpa!
[10:43] <Papa_> Any ideas?
[10:48] <Papa_> I'm making a screenshot
[10:52] <Papa_> Please check → http://uploadpie.com/KQsp7
[10:52] <Papa_> Look at the right
[10:52] <Papa_> In theory I use 24
[10:52] <Papa_> But it looks bigger
[10:52] <FloodBotK1> Papa_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:52] <Papa_> Sorry.
[11:30] <anonymous> hey guys
[11:30] <raspberryberet> hi. how do i make ctrl-alt L working again? upgrading to kde 4.11 broke this.
[11:31] <Soru_> Yea me too
[11:31] <Soru_> It doesn't work
[11:31] <raspberryberet> also screensaver cannot be disabled when watching film on any player.
[11:31] <Guest58442> trying to play sam3 on steam with bumblebee and i got pretty poor performance on 1080p and my Geforce 650M ... can someone help me ?  already tried to  set primusrun %command%   ...
[11:31] <raspberryberet> Soru_: that feel bro :/
[11:32] <micha_> Hi, my copy and paste does not work anymore in any application for my main user account. Which programms/settings influence it?
[11:32] <micha_> I tried to stop klipper, but to no avail
[11:33] <Soru_> raspberryberet: It's a pain in the ass becaue I use it at class and sometimes I do ctrl-alt L but I don't remember that it does not work and I leave my computer unblocked! damnit haha
[11:34] <micha_> one exception is dolphin, when copying files, they are copied as text, i.e. when I copy-paste a file, dolphin asks me for a filename to store the text (which consists of the original filename)
[11:34] <raspberryberet> Soru_: same to me here brother
[11:37]  * Soru_ restarts
[11:38] <micha_> It must be some settings in .kde/share/config. Any idea which influences the copy/paste behaviour?
[11:40] <siragius> !list
[11:40] <siragius> ciao
[11:52] <siragius> rld
[12:10] <micha_> Does it make any sense that kdeconnectrc (the kde side of the android plugin) breaks copy-paste?
[13:27] <frosted> Hi all, I've googled my problem with libre writer spell checker not working. Thus I am here to ask for some help. I have hunspell checker installed and set to the correct language but it still doesn't work I can type kdkdkdkdkdkdkdkd and libre will accept that as correct.
[13:38] <BluesKaj_> frosted. ask in #LibreOffice , maybe
[13:39] <frosted> There is a channel for that? awesome i will thank you ^^
[13:39] <BluesKaj_> np
[14:12] <frosted> The chanel is dead BluesKaj
[14:30] <sunny_le> is it possible to run graphical applications like firefox from chroot ?
[14:33] <sunny_le> wow i just run whole kde from chroot, but it crashed after 5 sec
[15:08] <frosted_> Does anyone know if its possible to combine two connections ? Like use two dsl line and use both's speed as one in linux ?
[16:13] <dany> hey
[16:13] <dany> I have problem with lighdm
[16:13] <dany> can anyone help?
[16:17] <dany> any one?
[16:18] <frosted_> dany the channel is pretty death atm. and I can't help you sorry
[16:18] <dany> why dead
[16:18] <dany> ?
[16:18] <frosted_> I dno not much activity
[16:18] <dany> ok
[16:19] <lordievader> dany: What is your problem with lighdm?
[16:19] <dany> I have no kde entry
[16:19] <dany> for all users
[16:19] <dany> only xbmc entry
[16:19] <frosted_> Awh you are in luck dany
[16:19] <lordievader> Many idlers, perhaps they will respond when they see the problem.
[16:20] <dany> I have fresh install od newest kubuntu
[16:20] <dany> I've installed few apps and xbmc
[16:20] <dany> no I cant only log in to xbmc
[16:20] <dany> no kde session :(
[16:21] <lordievader> dany: Can you start kde with "startkde"?
[16:21] <dany> I have lighdm running
[16:21] <dany> init 4
[16:21] <dany> should start it in terminal ctrl+alt+F1
[16:21] <dany> ?
[16:22] <dany> I dont have such command
[16:22] <dany> only start-pulseaudio-kde
[16:22] <dany> and startx
[16:22] <lordievader> dany: That is odd..
[16:22] <dany> i know
[16:23] <lordievader> dany: How did you install Kubuntu?
[16:23] <dany> from thumstick
[16:24] <lordievader> Ok, using a Kubuntu image I presume? Not by installing Ubuntu and then installing the kubuntu-desktop package or something.
[16:24] <dany> no
[16:24] <dany> kubuntu iso
[16:24] <lordievader> What version?
[16:24] <dany> from offical page
[16:24] <dany> newest
[16:24] <dany> upgradet
[16:25] <dany> maybe should reinstall kde
[16:25] <dany> ?
[16:25] <lordievader> dany: Yes you could try reinstalling the kubuntu-desktop package (don't think it will help much, but worth a shot).
[16:27] <dany> i put system to install kubuntu-desktop
[16:28] <dany> will see
[16:28] <dany> what about light entry list
[16:28] <dany> where can find configuration file?
[16:29] <dany> done already
[16:29] <dany> now restarting
[16:29] <lordievader> dany: Not sure how he generates that, I think he gets it from XSession.
[16:29] <dany> ok
[16:30] <dany> it works
[16:30] <dany> kde splash screen
[16:30] <dany> and kde desktop :D
[16:30] <lordievader> dany: Good to hear ;)
[16:31] <dany> but now I have ugly unity lightmdm screen
[16:32] <lordievader> dany: Check if greeter-session= in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf is set to lightdm-kde-greeter.
[16:32] <dany> its not
[16:32] <dany> its unity
[16:33] <dany> changed
[16:33] <lordievader> dany: Then change it ;) "sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf"
[16:33] <dany> lets
[16:33] <dany> see
[16:33] <dany> thanks man for y help
[16:33] <lordievader> dany: No problem ;)
[16:34] <dany> how could that happen :P
[16:34] <dany> kde get uninstalled ?
[16:34] <dany> wird think, never happened to me before
[16:35] <lordievader> dany: That is a very good question. Did you clean out packages or something?
[16:35] <dany> not
[16:35] <dany> only installed few thinks
[16:35] <dany> thanks guys
[16:40] <xtriz> why is that some services get started as a root and some do not ?
[16:40] <xtriz> any specific reasons ?
[16:41] <lordievader> xtriz: Probably permission.
[16:41] <xtriz> lordievader, but i am already doing it as a root
[16:41] <lordievader> xtriz: What do you mean?
[16:41] <xtriz> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[16:41] <xtriz> Upstart job, you may also use the status(8) utility, e.g. status cups
[16:41] <xtriz> when i am doing /etc/init.d/cups start i am getting the above error.
[16:42] <xtriz> i am doing this as a root
[16:42] <lordievader> xtriz: sudo service cups start
[16:42] <xtriz> lordievader, i am customizing kubuntu, so i am doing all this things under chroot.
[16:43] <xtriz> creating custom live cd
[16:43] <lordievader> xtriz: Ok, then why would you need to start the cups service?
[16:44] <xtriz> lordievader, i has to start ssh to transfer certain files, so i was just curious whether i can start cups or not.
[16:44] <xtriz> now this error has made me curious to know what goes under the hood such that cups service don't get started as a root.
[16:44] <lordievader> xtriz: What does "service cups status" say?
[16:45] <xtriz> lordievader, nothing
[16:45] <xtriz> and service cups starts also states nothing, just returns the prompt back.
[16:45] <lordievader> I believe that it should still start even if you use /etc/init.d/<something>, it just says that Ubuntu uses upstart.
[16:45] <xtriz> lordievader, hope so, let me check that out.
[16:46] <lordievader> xtriz: Well it might be the chroot thingie that upstart isn't running or something. Never tried to start a service from within a chroot.
[16:46] <xtriz> lordievader, if i just copy paste the various config files ( themes ) of my current kubuntu install will that work ?
[16:47] <lordievader> xtriz: Themes of what?
[16:47] <xtriz> i have customized panels and window decorations
[16:48] <lordievader> They will probably work, just that you need to figure out how to modify the config files.
[16:49] <kaddi> what is a good place to upload screenshots for illustration?
[16:49] <xtriz> lordievader, to be more precise , the stuff under i.e. application appearance and workspace appearance
[16:49] <lordievader> !paste | kaddi
[16:49] <kaddi> ty
[16:50] <lordievader> xtriz: Same thing, find out how to modify the config files.
[16:51] <xtriz> lordievader, where can i find the config files of those ?
[16:52] <xtriz> googling for each options.
[16:52] <lordievader> xtriz: That is the tricky part, the default user doesn't exist (yet). It is made by casper during the boot process. So what I think you should do, is make a new user, hack the part where the default user is made. And then change the config files.
[16:53] <lordievader> xtriz: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization#Removing_the_.28Casper.29_Autologin
[16:54] <xtriz> lordievader, it works :) super awesome :)
[16:54] <xtriz> the cups job did work on the complete build.
[16:54] <xtriz> it got started but it was not showing.
[16:58] <xtriz> lordievader, you meant to say is that remove the auto login and add a user, and under it i copy all the config files ?
[16:59] <lordievader> xtriz: Something like that yes.
[17:04] <xtriz> lordievader, is that possible to create a setup such that the config files are applied automatically to the new user created ?
[17:05] <xtriz> can i do that i can copy the complete config files with my desired files ?
[17:05] <xtriz> s/copy/replace ?
[17:05] <lordievader> xtriz: Possibly, not a way I know of though...
[17:07] <xtriz> lordievader, or can i do that in chroot , get the GUI run and then select the appropriate options ?
[17:09] <lordievader> Don't think that last one is a very plausible one.
[17:10] <xtriz> :9
[17:10] <xtriz> :(
[17:10] <xtriz> then how can i customized themes ?
[17:11] <xtriz> kdereadconfig or kdewriteconfig ?  i am losing now , tried everything i knew.
[17:13] <lordievader> xtriz: Read from setp 7: http://www.howtoforge.com/creating-a-kde-live-cd-dvd-using-kubuntu-p2
[17:14] <blurb> Hi, I'm trying install kubuntu 13.04 with uefi. It boots into grub2 but only drops into a shell instead of detecting an OS (no error messages what so ever).
[17:18] <xtriz> lordievader, thank you so much it will be really helpful :)
[17:20] <lordievader> xtriz: No problem, good luck.
[17:21] <xtriz> lordievader, thank you sir :)
[17:28] <DrowKiroth> Hey everyone question for you guys does anyone know what the development package for pthreads is called
[17:41] <DrowKiroth>  are the development library's for pthreads installed by default
[17:59] <Hackbinary> hello
[17:59] <lordievader> Hey Hackbinary
[18:32] <Addle> Well, getting this laptop working has been a trial. I do hate SecureBoot. Things work now, but I have a screensaver/screen blank/DPMS issue.
[18:32] <Addle> No screensaver or screen blanking works. It flickers and then doesn't go into it.
[18:33] <Addle> acpid is running and testing the screen saver works. It just never comes on. I just see a flicker when it should activate, then nothing. Any troubleshooting hints?
[18:33] <Addle> (Screen dim also doesn't work)
[18:53] <Gnjurac> hi
[18:53] <Gnjurac> does anyone use XIAOPAN or does anyone know their IRC?
[22:20] <tapout> anyone know of a way to scan/search all apps for use of QQuickImageProvider?  I want to see how these wizards coded around that object/user
[22:20] <tapout> use
[22:27] <valorie> tapout: #kde-devel , perhaps?
[23:08] <miractopal> kjk