[05:45] <adham> i need to know how to watch videos on clipland.com
[05:45] <aleksander> tritium, it was started...:P
[05:45] <steved> thorrn4: open up synaptic and search for sensors - there should be a package called lm-sensors install that then try again
[05:45] <ray_> adham, what do you need help with adham
[05:45] <tritium> aleksander, :)
[05:45] <andersbr> adham:  what format are the videos in?
[05:45] <rgamino> google says ask ubuntu irc's ;)
[05:45] <adham> I dont know im only 13
[05:46] <adham> but i do know they are music videos
[05:46] <ray_> get mozilla-vlc-plugin
[05:46] <ufzobook_> sure bob2, but it is software wich is not in the portage
[05:46] <bob2> rgamino: so, seriously, what does google say about ati's proprietary drivers and randr?
[05:46] <bob2> ufzobook_: this isn't gentoo
[05:46] <ufzobook_> ehm, in the sources of horay, sorry ;)
[05:46] <bob2> ufzobook_: then you email whoever made the packages
[05:46] <cyphase> you know what would be interesting? a debate between Linus Torvalds and Bill Gates :)
[05:46] <adham> lol
[05:46] <tritium> devios, gaim-encryption is already in universe, and might suit your needs
[05:47] <adham> who hates windows?
[05:47] <lynx> i do
[05:47] <aleksander> is #var/www" the apache document folder?
[05:47] <lynx> ehaeha
[05:47] <ray_> adham, get vlc
[05:47] <adham> ok thanx
[05:47] <Thorrn4> steved, I apt-get'd the program...will it be able 2 run now?
[05:47] <Thorrn4> adham, I do
[05:47] <cyphase> adham, just about everybody here
[05:47] <ray_> my parents have windows
[05:47] <rgamino> bob2: i haven't found anything yet... still google'ing
[05:47] <cyphase> including me
[05:47] <cyphase> :)
[05:47] <adham> lol
[05:47] <steved> thorrn4: try it see what it says
[05:47] <bob2> cyphase: linus doesn't care about ms, he just hacks the kernel.
[05:47] <adham> im still getting used to linux
[05:47] <gm78> ray_ : do u need the win32codecs for vlc (i downloaded and installed them from mplayer's website anyways)
[05:47] <gm78> ?
[05:47] <wdh> cyphase, why would that be interesting?
[05:47] <devios> tritium: unless gaim-encryption can chat with trillian encryption, it doesn't suit my needs
[05:47] <cyphase> bob2, yea, i know
[05:47] <honor> hello doesanyone know how to burn dvd-video?
[05:47] <lynx> so am i adham
[05:47] <cyphase> wdh, i just would
[05:48] <cyphase> :)
[05:48] <odie5533> How do I install a boot manager while preforming a low memory install?
[05:48] <ray_> gm78, no it just works for me
[05:48] <aleksander> trituim, are "var/www" the document folder?
[05:48] <adham> iv been a windows user for 9 years
[05:48] <bob2> no one seems to care, except mindless fanboys/girls
[05:48] <wdh> cyphase, we all know what they both will say :P
[05:48] <cyphase> both of tem trying to explain why their OS is better
[05:48] <gm78> honor, What do u mean by dvd-video? like dvd9 to dvd5 or what?
[05:48] <adham> so linux is kindof hard
[05:48] <cyphase> adham, what do you mean?
[05:48] <wdh> cyphase, there is no such thing as a 'better' OS
[05:48] <gm78> adham, different is more like it....i find it easier to fix than windows
[05:48] <lynx> i dont think it hard =]
[05:48] <ray_> adham, yes it is a tad harder than windows but wellworth it
[05:48] <adham> well thats true
[05:49] <cyphase> wdh, stop thinking! just watch them go back and forth
[05:49] <cyphase> ;)
[05:49] <adham> its just that i dont know how to download anything
[05:49] <tritium> devios, I'm not sure if it does
[05:49] <lynx> its harder cause u are used to windows
[05:49] <adham> i know
[05:49] <adham> i just wanted to try something new
[05:49] <cyphase> and not particularly because windows is easier
[05:49] <ray_> the thing that i have found with widows is that it is fast as hell when you first install it and then a week later it is so full of shit it barley works
[05:50] <cyphase> adham, good for you
[05:50] <cyphase> :)
[05:50] <tritium> adham, it's worth the effort in learning
[05:50] <aleksander> tririum, are "var/www" the document folder?
[05:50] <DanielHolmes> Hey, just wanted to drop in and say thank you to whomever wants to listen.  About a week ago, I used nothing but gentoo and loved it.  But, after lusting after your distro for months (used the live cd a couple of times) I finally made the switch.  In fact, I loved it so much that my development machine has been switched over from a 2 year old gentoo install to a fresh, clean ubuntu.  My users may not appreciate my recent 2 day window of non-existent
[05:50] <ray_> I spend more time cleaning my parents xp system that actually using it
[05:50] <adham> thats what happend to me
[05:50] <wdh> ray_, why discuss windows in a linux channel?
[05:50] <tritium> aleksander, by default, yes, /var/www/
[05:50] <cyphase> wdh, because windows is the direct competitor to linux
[05:50] <adham> because its something to talk about
[05:50] <aleksander> tritium, ok, do you know how a get permissions to it?
[05:50] <cyphase> wdh, you think they don't talk about linux at microsoft?
[05:50] <ray_> wdh, fuck off
[05:51] <tritium> ray_, easy
[05:51] <cyphase> wdh = Windows Die Hard
[05:51] <ray_> wdh, its just conversation
[05:51] <wdh> cyphase, they probably do.. but there is no use in you talking about windows here..
[05:51] <cyphase> wdh, why not?
[05:51] <tritium> ray_, don't do that again, please
[05:51] <gm78> wdh, well since ur the authority of this chat room why dont u kick him?? :-P
[05:51] <tritium> aleksander, use sudo
[05:51] <ray_> tritium, didnt think everyone could see that
[05:52] <tritium> ray_, it's not appropriate behavior for #ubuntu.  We have a code of conduct.
[05:52] <Thorrn4> is it wise to update the kernel? because the last time I did...GRUB ran slowly and programs booted slower; I had to reinstall on older version of the kernel and it made it run normally, like it was before
[05:52] <aleksander> tritium, with who command?
[05:52] <wdh> gm78, i am not.. i was just the person being annoyed by hearing about windows in the irc-channel of his beloved distro
[05:52] <bob2> Thorrn4: you're using breezy?
[05:52] <tritium> aleksander, see this for details: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:52] <bob2> anyway
[05:52] <sproingie> uboto, code of conduct?
[05:52] <gm78> Thorrn4, thats odd, never noticed that kind of behaviour
[05:52] <OverDriv3> this is what the synaptic package manager sais: This package contains the source needed to generate the kernel module. You can
[05:52] <OverDriv3> compile it manually or using kernel-package.
[05:52] <OverDriv3> How do i use the kernel-package?
[05:52] <r0bby> ever notice how high traffic the mailing lists are
[05:53] <r0bby> specifically -user?
[05:53] <steved> thorrn4: you got those sensors working ?
[05:53] <r0bby> :P
[05:53] <sproingie> grmbl ... how do i query the damn bot
[05:53] <Thorrn4> bob2, no 5.04...I dont know what is it called
[05:53] <Thorrn4> steved, it said: no sensors found :P
[05:53] <gm78> wdh, i know that was my point. it isnt ur chat room so it isn't really your place to moderate what everyone talks about....thats my opinion anyways
[05:53] <cyphase> wdh, do you care who uses linux and who uses windows? because if you don't, i can understand your position
[05:53] <tritium> OverDriv3, install kernel-package, and then see the docs in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package.  It will involve using make-kpkg with fakeroot.
[05:53] <tiredbones> After I stop the server, /etc/init.s/apache2 stop, I can still get display the placeholder page. If the server is down should I still beable to see this page?
[05:53] <bob2> cyphase: this doesn't sound very "helping people use ubuntu"-related
[05:53] <bob2> try #ubuntu-pfftopic
[05:53] <OverDriv3> tritium: i am a windows user that has no idea about command line stuff : /
[05:54] <ray_> i had to compile alsa 1.0.9 for my sound to work..... if i update the linux-headers and image will that break my sound?
[05:54] <tritium> OverDriv3, do you really need a custom kernel?
[05:54] <bob2> ray_: if it overwrites the .ko for your driver, yes
[05:54] <wdh> gm78, well.. it isnt your place to moderate what i am talking about then :P
[05:54] <steved> thorrn4: try running sensors-detect that should show you what modules need to be installed for the sensors to work
[05:54] <OverDriv3> i need it for something called LUFS
[05:54] <rade> hello everyone
[05:55] <ray_> bob2, can i stop that from happening
[05:55] <wdh> cyphase, i really dont care.. i like it when people use linux.. and i dislike windows marketing strategies/monopoly..
[05:55] <tritium> gm78, wdh please stop
[05:55] <rade> can anyone help me install a wlan usb adapter in ubuntu 5.04?
[05:55] <wdh> cyphase, and thats about it
[05:55] <cyphase> hmm..
[05:55] <ogge> hello. doing the "free -m" in terminal. only got 12mbyte free of 128mbyte! only running gaim and one terminal. isnt this a little bit to much? using ubuntu hoary, xfce4, xorg.
[05:55] <OverDriv3> tritium: some kind of file system enhancement
[05:55] <steved> thorrn4: run it with sudo otherwise it won't work
[05:55] <bob2> ray_: back it up, restore it after installing the kernel image
[05:55] <tritium> OverDriv3, which?
[05:55] <bob2> rade: you need to give a lot more details
[05:55] <bob2> ogge: read the -/+ line instead
[05:55] <OverDriv3> tritium: http://ftpfs.sourceforge.net/
[05:56] <Thorrn4> steved, still didnt work
[05:56] <Thorrn4>  :P
[05:56] <ray_> bob2, good idea thanks man
[05:56] <steved> thorrn4: what did it say this time ?
[05:56] <ogge> bob2, it says used 44 .. free 79.
[05:56] <gm78> ray_, actually....now that i think about it, the new kernel didn't change the abi (which is why it didn't need new headers) so u might be fine
[05:56] <tritium> OverDriv3, what for?
[05:56] <rade> alright, it's a cameo wlb 1403, the output from lsusb is "Bus 001 Device 004: ID 03eb:7613 Atmel Corp."
[05:56] <bob2> ogge: there you go
[05:56] <ogge> cool :)
[05:56] <steved> thornn4: if you run sudo sensors-detect
[05:56] <OverDriv3> so that i can mount a ftp directory and save directly to it from any program
[05:56] <ogge> linux is really freaking resource light.
[05:56] <tritium> OverDriv3, can't gnome-vfs do that?
[05:57] <steved> thorrn4: it should scan your machine and tell you what modules are needed
[05:57] <OverDriv3> tritium: i have tried, but i have no idea on how to do that..
[05:57] <tritium> OverDriv3, further, that projects says it's obsoleted by LUFS
[05:57] <ray_> ogge, yeah all I have running right now is this chat program and my system monitor and i am using 198 megs.. try using icewm
[05:57] <tiredbones> After I stop the server, /etc/init.s/apache2 stop, I can still get the placeholder page. If the server is down should I still beable to see this page?
[05:57] <tritium> OverDriv3, first, I'd suggest sftp over ftp, anyway.
[05:57] <bob2> ray_: presumably 150MB of that is disk cache
[05:57] <OverDriv3> tritium: i managed to connect to ftp and so on, but i cannot change files like i want to. And it is the LUFS i am talking about
[05:58] <bob2> tiredbones: so, why don't you see what's answering you then?
[05:58] <bob2> tiredbones: sudo netstat -plnt|grep 80
[05:58] <Thorrn4> steved, I loaded the sudo sensors-detect and it searched for all of the sensors....but I guess that I dont have any...sudo sensors says: no sensors found!
[05:58] <sproingie> is there some simple memory usage app that doesn't count video memory or buffer cache?
[05:58] <dabaR> hey, for some reason there is a new kernel image in updates for my Hoary. I dont have any extraneous repos  enabled, but I have main multiverse, universe, and restricted. Is this something that everyone got today?
[05:58] <steved> thorrn4: ok your out of luck then ;)
[05:58] <ray_> bob2, yeah i have a gig of ram but ubuntu only sees it as like 850? u know whats up with that?
[05:58] <bob2> sproingie: free -m, the 3 rd line
[05:58] <dabaR> <IP_ADDRESS>.3
[05:58] <bob2> ray_: install the -686 kernel
[05:58] <CarlFK> bob2 - so I should just keep using my Zyxel 14.4?  (really nice modem, most of the use will be fax, so don't really need the speed)
[05:58] <teferi> Does anyone know when linux-restricted-modules for 2.6.12 will be in breezy?
[05:58] <ray_> i got the kernel updates
[05:58] <Thorrn4> steved, i guess so
[05:59] <ogge> icewm is very resourceheavy+
[05:59] <ogge> ?
[05:59] <ray_> bob2, is that easy
[05:59] <bob2> teferi: when 2.6.12 is unscrewed
[05:59] <on> i think i've found a resolution: it's RP-PPPoE. it's a desktop dialer for pppoe adsl connections. am i right? :/ i found it via ubuntuguide.org
[05:59] <ray_> bob2, is it an option at the normal install
[05:59] <bob2> ray_: yes, if you have a 686 cpu
[05:59] <bob2> ray_: no
[05:59] <OverDriv3> tritium: can you help me with gnome-vfs?
[05:59] <gm78> ogge, nope....icewm is actually really lightweight....also light in features tho
[05:59] <tritium> OverDriv3, can you use sftp?
[05:59] <bob2> on: ubuntu includes pppoe tools by default
[05:59] <ogge> ok cool.
[05:59] <ray_> its a p4 so yeah 686
[05:59] <teferi> bob2: it's just that linux-image has apparently been updated to 2.6.12 now, so I was wondering...
[05:59] <teferi> bob2: what's wrong with .12?
[05:59] <OverDriv3> tritium: what is sftp?
[05:59] <OverDriv3> secure?
[05:59] <tritium> yes
[05:59] <gm78> ogge, a cool window manager to try is windowmaker
[06:00] <sproingie> bob2: that still counts video memory, no?  thinking of something for newbs to use
[06:00] <bob2> teferi: lots of regressions, e.g. breaking udev in some circumstances
[06:00] <teferi> oh
[06:00] <teferi> lovely
[06:00] <rade> bob2: my adapter's a cameo wlb 1403, it's on the list for linux-wlan-ng, which i installed over synaptic, but it's still not working, the output from lsusb is "Bus 001 Device 004: ID 03eb:7613 Atmel Corp."... but when i type in iwconfig, i don#t get anything
[06:00] <ogge> gm78, ok. is it nice?
[06:00] <on> no, enlightenment or xfce is way more cool :)
[06:00] <OverDriv3> trit: doesn't matter to me
[06:00] <teferi> i'll stick with .10, i guess
[06:00] <teferi> bob2: are you kernel-team?
[06:00] <bob2> sproingie: "video memory"? you mean memory mapped out to the vide card, or memory used by X?
[06:00] <bob2> teferi: no
[06:00] <tritium> OverDriv3, I'd try: Places->Connect to Server
[06:00] <sproingie> bob2: yes, that
[06:00] <OverDriv3> trit: done that
[06:00] <OverDriv3> trit: i am connected
[06:00] <teferi> okay, never mind, that other question can wait
[06:00] <bob2> rade: no need to /msg me
[06:00] <sproingie> bob2: er, the memory mapped out to the vid card
[06:00] <ogge> I think xfce4 is quite nice.
[06:00] <tritium> OverDriv3, then what's the problem?
[06:00] <OverDriv3> trit: but i can't get apps to write to that directory
[06:00] <ray_> i love how easy it was to set up my video card using ubuntu
[06:00] <gm78> ogge, sort of....it takes getting used to....its free so u may as well go ahead and download it :P
[06:00] <rade> bob2, sorry, i thought you missed my message
[06:00] <OverDriv3> trit: it simply doesnt work.
[06:01] <dabaR> I guess what I am asking is: Is it normal to have a kernel image upgrade available like that? Just by sudo apt-get upgrade.
[06:01] <bob2> rade: iwconfig doesn't work with linux-wlan-ng drivers
[06:01] <ogge> is there anyway to view free available videocard memory?
[06:01] <bob2> rade: you need wlanctl or so
[06:01] <bob2> I forget
[06:01] <teferi> second question: there's a known bug in the madwifi driver regarding WPA not working, upstream is totally mum on it, is anyone in ubuntu working on it?
[06:01] <ray_> dabaR, Yeah i got the same update completely  normnal
[06:01] <tritium> dabaR, yes, the update-manager looks for security updates
[06:01] <rade> bob2, so what do you suggest i do?
[06:01] <bob2> rade: /usr/share/doc/linux-wlan-ng/README or so tells you the 3 commands or so to run to get a wlan-ng usb device working
[06:01] <OverDriv3> trit: any idea?
[06:01] <dabaR> Ok, thank you very much.
[06:02] <bob2> teferi: I'd try looking in bugzilla
[06:02] <rade> bob2: thanks, i'll check right now
[06:02] <bob2> teferi: or the ubuntu-kernel list archives
[06:02] <halbalbal> hi
[06:02] <teferi> bob2: yeah, i was going to head there, but figured i'd ask while i'm here
[06:02] <teferi> okay, thanks anyway
[06:02] <sproingie> i suppose unless psutils and company can detect memory-mapped I/O as opposed to actual system ram usage, the memory usage question is still a bit up in the air
[06:02] <bob2> teferi: afaik none of the kernel team are here
[06:02] <keffo> question, im going to install windows and make a "dual-boot" with grub.. i copied my old config, so after i installed windows.. shall i boot up with a live-cd for example and mount /boot and put the grub there?
[06:02] <bob2> no one I recognise, anyway
[06:02] <sproingie> given that so many onboard vid cards actually use system ram
[06:03] <halbalbal> i upgraded my kernel to 2.6.10-34-3 and now I can't boot. I get "Kernel panic -not syncing: VFS: unable to open root device"
[06:03] <ray_> what happened to  the linux downloads on Americas Army?
[06:03] <OverDriv3> trit: it usually ends at that point.... No one seems to be willing to help me with this. bah!
[06:03] <gm78> ogge, most cheap on board video cards don't have their own RAM
[06:03] <gm78> ray_, they should still be there
[06:03] <ray_> gm78, nope
[06:03] <ogge> gm78. aight.
[06:04] <ray_> gm78, havent been for days
[06:04] <tiredbones> bob2, the reply from netstat -plnt | grep 80 showed nothing listening. So why did the page pop-up/
[06:04] <dabaR> windows has to be first partition, right?
[06:04] <bob2> tiredbones: perhaps your browser is crap and caching it
[06:04] <ogge> Is there any way, if so, how do I put my ubuntu system in some kind of text-based mode only. With all the functions still available.
[06:04] <sproingie> dabaR: it doesn't care
[06:04] <ogge> But no GUI.
[06:04] <bob2> ogge: you'd need to be more specific about what "all the functions still available" means
[06:04] <bob2> ogge: you can certainly stop X starting
[06:05] <gm78> ray_, hmmmm, ur right....thats bright of em "we dont have the new version available yet so we'll just pull down the old one"
[06:05] <halbalbal> hi again, i upgraded my kernel to 2.6.10-34-3 and now I can't boot. I get "Kernel panic -not syncing: VFS: unable to open root device"
[06:05] <ogge> bob2, hrm. If I want to close down the GUI.
[06:05] <dabaR> halbalbal:  nice,...
[06:05] <blasdufnerb> everyone join #naruto-kun
[06:05] <tritium> OverDriv3, I took a look at it myself.  I can't save over gnome-vfs either.  Can you live with drag-n-drop?  Save changes locally, and copy them over with nautilus.
[06:05] <dabaR> tritium: is that gonna happen to me now??:)
[06:05] <tritium> dabaR, when?
[06:05] <halbalbal> dabaR: not really
[06:05] <ray_> gm78, I ended up  getting it from aafiles but u think they are coming out with a new version and it will be back up soon
[06:05] <tritium> what?
[06:05] <dabaR> when I reboot.
[06:06] <zenlunatic> how do you relaunch nautilus desktop?
[06:06] <bob2> RichiH: that guy's spamming
[06:06] <rade> bob2: i don't have a README file, i have a README.Debian, but for configuring usb devices it says "Currently this is not well integrated. See the section starting "FOR USB
[06:06] <rade> USERS" at the end of the README file."
[06:06] <ray_> zenlunatic, log out lol...... i do it the cheesy way
[06:06] <gm78> ray_, it says right on their site they are. they released version 2.4 for windows, linux and mac clients are coming soon
[06:06] <RichiH> bob2: that's what i came to see, yah
[06:06] <bob2> RichiH: hah
[06:06] <RichiH> why do people do that :/
[06:06] <gm78> ray_, aafiles....where is that?
[06:06] <zenlunatic> ray_: id rather not log out
[06:06] <dabaR> halbalbal: I hope not.
[06:06] <zenlunatic> ray_: i have a lot of stuff going here
[06:07] <bob2> RichiH: so they get more people in their channel omg lolz!
[06:07] <murphy> Hi
[06:07] <tritium> OverDriv3, okay, I need to get going.
[06:07] <skel_> hello
[06:07] <ray_> gm78, ahhh thanks.......... if you look under the windows links there is aafiles
[06:07] <OverDriv3> trit: thanks for your help anyway!
[06:07] <ray_> if you  go there u can get the old version
[06:07] <skel_> i having a issue with my gonme
[06:07] <bob2> aleksander: unless you're asking for my address to send bags of money to, please don't /msg me
[06:07] <RichiH> bob2: a whopping two, as we speak
[06:07] <tritium> OverDriv3, sure.  See my last message.  That's the best you can do, I think.
[06:07] <murphy> Kind of a newb question here, but I am trying to permanently mount a drive between both linux and windows
[06:07] <bob2> RichiH: hah
[06:07] <skel_> I can add appz to the gnome menu but i can not open them when i click them they just sit there and nothign starts
[06:08] <tritium> bob2, see you later.  Just a few more weeks, and I'll be back online more often.
[06:08] <aleksander> bob2, why not?
[06:08] <ray_> murphy, look at the ubuntu page
[06:08] <bob2> tritium: ah, cool, adios
[06:08] <bob2> tritium: good luck :)
[06:08] <tritium> bob2, thanks again :)
[06:08] <bob2> rade: do you have linux-wlan-ng-doc installed?
[06:08] <murphy> it's an NTFS data drive, and there is no OS on it, just data.
[06:08] <ray_> skel_, what app did you  try/
[06:08] <skel_> limire
[06:08] <murphy> the Ubuntu page?
[06:08] <OverDriv3> trit: that is the thing : i would very much like to avoid drag and drop
[06:08] <skel_> beep media player
[06:08] <OverDriv3> trit is gone.. ah..
[06:08] <skel_> they wont start recenty installed them...
[06:08] <gm78> ray_, alright, thx too...never knew that
[06:08] <rade> bob2: sorry, i should have guessed, just a sec
[06:08] <ray_> skel_, wouldnt work for me either...but every other app does
[06:08] <ogge> I got win2k installed on the first partition. How do I reach the partition?
[06:08] <aleksander> bob2, do you know how I can get permissions to var/www ???
[06:08] <bob2> rade: (I had to look that up myself)
[06:08] <skel_> hmmmm
[06:08] <skel_> werid
[06:09] <skel_> so how do i start it
[06:09] <skel_> in termial?
[06:09] <ray_> skel_, use the file browser
[06:09] <aleksander> norwegian people here?
[06:09] <ray_> skel_,  if you download the rpm and alien it...that version runs in the panel
[06:09] <murphy> I have acutally mounted it, but I can't figure out how to log in to the root user through the gui so I can change the permissions!?!
[06:10] <ray_> skel_, but that version is slower and buggy
[06:10] <bob2> murphy: you don't change permissions like that
[06:10] <lynx> murphy, i have the same problem
[06:10] <skel_> nah i will amke a laucher...
[06:10] <bob2> murphy: you need to mount it with the option umask=002
[06:10] <skel_> or try to
[06:10] <rade> bob2: i installed linux-wlan-ng- doc but still no README
[06:10] <murphy> do I have to do it through the terminal?
[06:10] <murphy> hmm
[06:10] <bob2> murphy: however you mounted it to begin with
[06:10] <ray_> skel_, i will try right now and let youknow if i can do  it
[06:10] <bob2> rade: ok, I don't know where it is then
[06:10] <skel_> k
[06:11] <ogge> this channel owns.
[06:11] <ogge> really good people! :)
[06:11] <zenlunatic> anyone know how to kill/relaunch nautilus?
[06:11] <murphy> ok, and then if it's in the fstab, how come it doesn't automatically mount on startup?
[06:11] <aleksander> How do i get permissions to var/www???
[06:11] <sanitario> zenlunatic, killall -HUP nautilus
[06:11] <lynx> bob2, where i put "umask=002" in mi fstab?
[06:11] <bob2> rade: what I had to do was: sudo modprobe prism2_usb prism2_doreset=1, sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable,  sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_autojoin ssid="foo" authtype=opensystem
[06:12] <lynx> *my
[06:12] <bob2> lynx: in the options colume
[06:12] <bob2> lynx: e.g. change defaults to defaults,umask=002
[06:12] <lynx> ok, ill try
[06:12] <bob2> rade: you probably don't need to do the module line
[06:12] <bob2> aleksander: just put the files in ~/public_html/, dude
[06:12] <ray_> anyone use rkhunter.... should i?
[06:12] <murphy> hey linx, if you get it to work, could you post up your fstab entry?
[06:13] <aleksander> bob2, it's not an oublic_html filder here
[06:13] <bob2> murphy: if you want help, paste your /etc/fstab to #flood
[06:13] <bob2> aleksander: make it
[06:13] <rade> bob2: yea, i tried that, but after i put in "sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable" i get  "wlanctl-ng: No such device"
[06:13] <murphy> what does that do bob2?
[06:13] <ray_> What did you guys use for an os before Ubuntu?
[06:13] <bob2> rade: guess you need to load the driver manually then
[06:13] <bob2> murphy: let us see it so we can see what's wrong
[06:13] <aleksander> bob2, where?
[06:13] <bob2> ray_: Debian (which I still do use)
[06:13] <rade> bob2: can you tell me how?
[06:14] <Quest-Master> How do I upgrade my kernel?
[06:14] <bob2> rade: I don't know what driver you need
[06:14] <bassMonkey> hi, has anyone here installed mail-notification from scratch? i need the ssl feature so i'm currently trying my best... I get the following when trying to configure "No package "gconf-2.0' found", so what do i need to install?
[06:14] <lynx> bob2, my fstab is like that: /dev/hda1       /mnt/shadow     ntfs        auto,ro,users  0  0    where do i put that?
[06:14] <Choubaka> ray_: Same as bob2
[06:14] <ray_> bob2, I love debian but I just got a new computer and Ubuntu works and deb doesnt :(
[06:14] <bob2> ray_: yeah, X in Debian is a little outdated
[06:15] <rade> bob2: alright, i'm at a loss here, because i've been searching all day, do you know of any good howtos or readmes that might help me?
[06:15] <bob2> bassMonkey: I wouldn't bother compiling it
[06:15] <bob2> rade: no
[06:15] <ray_> bob2, yup ..... xorg works really nice
[06:15] <bob2> rade: searching for your chipset name + the word linux on google will eventually find you the module, tho
[06:15] <bassMonkey> bob2: well, have you got any other suggestions?
[06:15] <murphy> wow, sorry i'm a little confused, do I just type #flood /etc/fstab in my root terminal?
[06:15] <ogge> all the ubuntu swedes, go to #ubuntu.se
[06:15] <bob2> bassMonkey: use the version that's in ubuntu already?
[06:16] <bassMonkey> bob2: ssl isn't included in that one...
[06:16] <aleksander> bob2, where?
[06:16] <bassMonkey> bob2: so it can't access my mailbox =/
[06:16] <rade> bob2: the manufacturer doesn't have any drivers for linux available, is that what you mean? also, how can i find out what my chipset is?
[06:16] <lynx> bob2, /dev/hda5       /mnt/lynx     ntfs        auto,ro,users,umask=002  0  0   is that ok?
[06:16] <bob2> aleksander: where what?
[06:16] <bob2> rade: ignore the manufacturer, even if they made drivers they would be useless
[06:16] <bob2> rade: use lsusb
[06:16] <abeliko> hi any body could helpme with ndiswrapper???
[06:16] <aleksander> bob2, make public_html folder
[06:16] <bob2> lynx: yes
[06:16] <lynx> ok, ty
[06:16] <bob2> aleksander: in your home directory
[06:17] <bob2> bassMonkey: read it's package description
[06:17] <aleksander> bob2, then i must change the config file?
[06:17] <bob2> aleksander: no
[06:17] <aleksander> bob2, not?
[06:18] <aleksander> bob2, can i just make it, and then use with http://loaclhost ?
[06:18] <bob2> aleksander: nope
[06:18] <bob2> aleksander: then you access it as http://localhost/~username/
[06:18] <rade> bob2: i did lsusb, it gave me Bus 001 Device 004: ID 03eb:7613 Atmel Corp., but it's listed under compatible chipsets for linux-wlan-ng.. what i also find confusing is that lsusb says amtel, but my adapter (cameo 1403) is also listed... either way, shouldn#t it work?
[06:19] <bob2> rade: you need to load some atmel driver
[06:19] <bob2> which may or may not work
[06:19] <bob2> I just returned my atmel usb adapter because it was so flakey
[06:19] <GameJunky> is there a way to test a tar archive like you can with Rar? i've made about 10 backup cd's .. and i've put all the files in a rar archive then burned the archive to cd.. when i test the archive i get errors all the time. i dont know if it's Rar's fault, but i'd like to test tar out if i can test the archives after i burn them
[06:20] <rade> bob2: did you have to rebuild your kernel to get your amtel adapter to work?
[06:20] <bob2> rade: don't think so
[06:20] <bob2> rade: try "sudo modprobe atmel"
[06:20] <bob2> I think I tried it before linux-restricted-modules existed
[06:20] <toran> anyone have the 88x31 ubuntu website button? none of the images seem to be present on the websitebutton wiki page
[06:20] <bassMonkey> bob2: "I had to disable SSL because of a license issue. Hopefully, this will be solve soon."
[06:21] <rade> bob2: ok, it didn't give me an error message, how do i load it?
[06:21] <bassMonkey> bob2: SSL/TLS support (disabled, see README.Debian)
[06:21] <bob2> bassMonkey: so, get the source package, edit debian/rules, rebuild
[06:21] <bob2> rade: read the end of dmesg
[06:21] <murphy> ok, thanks bob2, now it mount automatically, but I can't access the data, how do I repair the permissions?
[06:22] <bob2> murphy: I don't see your /etc/fstab in #flood
[06:22] <GameJunky> can anyone answer my question?
[06:22] <rade> bob2: it says "prism2usb_init: prism2_usb.o: 0.2.1-pre25 Loaded
[06:22] <rade> prism2usb_init: dev_info is: prism2_usb
[06:22] <rade> usbcore: registered new driver prism2_usb
[06:22] <rade> usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3
[06:22] <rade> usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4", is that good?
[06:22] <ray_> GameJunky, what was it?
[06:22] <GameJunky> is there a way to test a tar archive like you can with Rar? i've made about 10 backup cd's .. and i've put all the files in a rar archive then burned the archive to cd.. when i test the archive i get errors all the time. i dont know if it's Rar's fault, but i'd like to test tar out if i can test the archives after i burn them
[06:22] <murphy> oh sorry
[06:22] <bob2> GameJunky: no need to repeat
[06:22] <bassMonkey> i'm trying to build it, but I can't because "No package 'gconf-2.0' found"
[06:22] <bob2> GameJunky: use the md5sum command
[06:23] <GameJunky> bob, ray asked :_
[06:23] <ray_> GameJunky, md5sum
[06:23] <GameJunky> :)
[06:23] <bob2> bassMonkey: so, run 'sudo apt-get build-dep mail-notification'
[06:23] <bob2> ray_ can scroll up then
[06:23] <GameJunky> lol
[06:23] <GameJunky> ok i'll try md5sum
[06:23] <xxtreme> gm78
[06:23] <GameJunky> it would suck if i burned all these backup cd's then removed the originals and the cd's didn't work
[06:23] <GameJunky> i think i would give up on computers :-/
[06:24] <bob2> murphy: as I said, umask=002, not umask=0
[06:24] <ray_> unsing tar they shouldnt be corrupt
[06:24] <murphy> it should be 0 0 2, or do the spaces matter,  it's hda5 i'm trying to mount
[06:25] <bob2> what I said is correct, just copy it
[06:25] <sanitario> murphy, the spaces do matter
[06:25] <bassMonkey> bob2: thank you! Didn't know it could be that simple... =)
[06:25] <sanitario> murphy, remove them
[06:25] <Quest-Master> How do I upgrade my kernel?
[06:25] <GameJunky> well thank you for the help, i'll see yall around
[06:25] <bob2> Quest-Master: you generally leave it alone
[06:25] <murphy> ok, so now how do I remount?
[06:25] <Flickie> Hi
[06:25] <ray_> Quest-Master, why do youwant to?
[06:26] <xxtreme> bob2= is there any special commands i need to install a game in ubuntu. the file is linux.run
[06:26] <Quest-Master> bob2: It apparently wasn't upgraded when I moved from Warty to Hoary, so.. yeah, I need to
[06:26] <topyli> Quest-Master: the question is "why"
[06:26] <Flickie> anyone know if buntu supports HT technology?
[06:26] <bob2> xxtreme: read the instructions.  if it doesn't have any, ask the authors.
[06:26] <Quest-Master> topyli: yes, and I have answered it :)
[06:26] <topyli> yes
[06:26] <bob2> Flickie: yes, but it's not that useful
[06:26] <topyli> :)
[06:26] <ray_> xxtreme, just chang the permissions and run it
[06:26] <Flickie> bob2: how do i enable it?
[06:26] <bob2> Quest-Master: so, install ubuntu-desktop
[06:26] <xxtreme> bob2 ok
[06:26] <bob2> Flickie: install a -smp kernel
[06:26] <xxtreme> ray=thanks
[06:26] <Flickie> bob2: cheers :)
[06:26] <bob2> Flickie: e.g. install linux-686-smp
[06:27] <xliu> but install ubuntu-desktop will install apmd,
[06:27] <murphy> Do I have to unmount the drive now?
[06:27] <Flickie> bob2: cheers :D
[06:27] <odie5533> Whats the difference between backports and... main ports?
[06:27] <bob2> murphy: yes
[06:27] <ogge> Why do I have to do the "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade". What does these commands search for, and what does these install?
[06:27] <bob2> odie5533: backports are dodge
[06:28] <murphy> is it jsust : unmount ........?
[06:28] <odie5533> bob2: dodgey?
[06:28] <bob2> ogge: man apt-get
[06:28] <bob2> odie5533: indeed
[06:28] <Quest-Master> bob2: I don't see a 2.6.10-5-686 in there
[06:28] <rade> bob2: the last line from dmesg was "usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4", is that ok? what should i do now? iwconfig still doesn't see the adapter
[06:28] <odie5533> bob2: so I shouldn't use them?
[06:28] <bob2> rade: no idea, you need to go find what driver it uses
[06:28] <bob2> odie5533: correct
[06:28] <bob2> unless you know how to fix it when it breaks
[06:28] <bob2> in which case you'd have better options than them anyway
[06:28] <OverDriv3> i am trying to install LUFS now, and it tells me that "In order to build LUFS you need to have the running kernel's headers installed". It says "Check whether /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include is pointing to the running kernel's include dir". I run that command and is told the directory isnt existing - which it isnt. What do i do?
[06:28] <odie5533> which I certainly don't :D
[06:29] <bob2> OverDriv3: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:29] <odie5533> bob2: why would anyone use them then?
[06:29] <bob2> but you're going to a huge amount of effort to work around a process problem
[06:29] <Flickie> bob2: where do i get this kernal?
[06:29] <gverig> Hi! I am having problems with nvidia driver. It loads and then it says that it was unable to load nvidia kernel module. Any idea? kernel-nvidia-common is installed and there is an nvidia file in the modprobe.d
[06:29] <bob2> odie5533: some people have a desire to run the latest versions of things, but not the skill to use the development version of ubuntu
[06:30] <sly> erm................
[06:30] <bob2> gverig: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:30] <sly> i just killed all my desktop icons n stuff, i assume running nautilus will fix it ? =\
[06:30] <bob2> probably
[06:30] <odie5533> bob2: I want the latest stuff! but I don't have any skill, so what would you suggest? Not backports right?
[06:30] <bob2> Flickie: install that package...
[06:30] <gverig> bob2: thanks
[06:30] <yuacht> hello... sometimes im just not able to login to msn even though msn works for everyone else. usually when the internet has been down for a short time (problems with router). i've tried both amsn and gaim... when using gaim i just get to handshaking then it stops... what should i do? i've tried rebooting
[06:30] <Flickie> bob2: thanks
[06:30] <bob2> odie5533: if you care that much, use gentoo or something
[06:31] <odie5533> :O suggesting a different distro lol
[06:31] <bob2> yuacht: how do you connect to the internet?
[06:31] <OverDriv3> bob2: thanks again, i'll get back to you if anything goes wrong =)
[06:31] <bob2> odie5533: no, I'm more suggesting just realising that you can live with software that's a whole 4 months old
[06:31] <ray_> gentoo is confusing to install
[06:31] <bob2> you = general you, not you in particular
[06:31] <odie5533> bob2: by dev version of ubuntu, you mean breezy right?
[06:32] <bob2> yes
[06:32] <Quest-Master> bob2: So.. the problem is that I have the 4 version of 2.6.10 and I need 5, as it is supposed to be in Hoary, but it was mysteriously not upgraded
[06:32] <bob2> Quest-Master: ok!
[06:32] <bob2> Quest-Master: if you really want to debug it, look at what apt says when you try to install it
[06:33] <OverDriv3> i get this error when i run the ./configure command:
[06:33] <OverDriv3> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:34] <OverDriv3> eh..
[06:34] <OverDriv3> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[06:34] <OverDriv3> that is the message
[06:34] <shawnh> good morning
[06:34] <murphy> ok, so I remounted, but I still don't have permissions from the GUI
[06:34] <bob2> OverDriv3: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[06:34] <ray_> apt-get instal gcc g++
[06:34] <bob2> murphy: so, paste the output of "mount" to #flood
[06:34] <bob2> rade: that won't work either
[06:34] <ray_> OverDriv3, apt-get instal gcc g++
[06:34] <bob2> OverDriv3: but bear in mind how much effort this is for such little gain
[06:34] <murphy> ok, does it print the output in the terminal?
[06:35] <bob2> murphy: indeed...
[06:35] <shawnh>  okay then just do that
[06:35] <shawnh> okay then just do that
[06:36] <OverDriv3> bob2: i really need it! It is crucial for my migration to linux. i am totally tired of minimizing and drag and drop eberytime i change a file
[06:36] <murphy> Bob2: there was no output!
[06:36] <rade> bob2: what won't work either?
[06:36] <bob2> OverDriv3: why are you doing all your development remotely?
[06:37] <bob2> murphy: yes there was
[06:37] <bob2> OverDriv3: run apache on your local machine and test changes there
[06:37] <bob2> rade: er, to ray, not you
[06:37] <ray_> bob2, I would be pulling my hair out if I were you....
[06:37] <OverDriv3> bob2: i usually creates the main stuff local, and then creates preview sites for my clients.
[06:37] <ray_> WHY TO ME
[06:37] <lynx> anyone here knows where i can find traydock plugin for amsn?
[06:38] <sly> lynx.... should already come as standard ?
[06:38] <bob2> OverDriv3: that's awesome, but editing live stuff seems kinda weird
[06:38] <sly> did when i installed from spt-get
[06:38] <mindspin> bob2 except you have a cool cms
[06:38] <OverDriv3> bob2: well, i have gotten used to it in dreamweaver
[06:38] <OverDriv3> and the live stuff are preview sites
[06:38] <bob2> yes, I know
[06:39] <lynx> sly did u have to change any configuration?
[06:39] <bob2> and I'm used to eating babies for dinner
[06:39] <lynx> mine didnt come with the plugin
[06:39] <bob2> we all need to make adjustments!
[06:39] <ray_> i love babies
[06:39] <sly> nope just select 2 things under the tools option
[06:39] <sly> minimize when hit close button ..... and the dicking part
[06:39] <lynx> what?
[06:39] <sly> to kde/gnome
[06:39] <lynx> ok
[06:39] <bob2> murphy: that's not what I said
[06:39] <bob2> murphy: paste the output of the command "mount"
[06:40] <sly> the gnome dock kinda kept crashing amsn for me
[06:40] <CarlFK> bob2 - found an isa/rockwell modem - rockwell is a real com port, right?
[06:40] <sly> but the freedesktop option works the same and no crashs *touch wood*
[06:40] <bob2> CarlFK: I don't know
[06:40] <bob2> if it's isa, it's very likely to not be a winmodem, tho
[06:40] <ray_> all you guys really need to do is read the Ubuntu page
[06:40] <mindspin> ;-)
[06:42] <ray_> silence
[06:42] <bob2> until you broke it!
[06:42] <ray_> oops
[06:43] <mindspin> they're all off reading
[06:43] <ray_> GOOD!
[06:43] <lynx> sly, thank u
[06:43] <lynx> =]
[06:44] <bob2> the docs need a lot of tidying before I'd be comfortable pointing people there to begin with
[06:44] <sly> =)
[06:44] <mindspin> but its not too much to get an general overview first
[06:44] <ray_> i set upmy whole system just by reading the ubuntu website...and there was alot of stuff that didnt work at first
[06:44] <bob2> murphy: so, "sudo umount /otherdrive ; sudo mount /otherdrive"
[06:46] <bob2> murphy: so, when people told you to do that before, you didn't tell them that unmounting failed
[06:46] <bob2> which is the crucial clue to solving your problem
[06:46] <bob2> kill everything accessing that disk and drive again
[06:47] <murphy> well, I think unmounting failed, because after I executed the unmount command, my GUI just showed an empty directory at /otherdrive
[06:47] <murphy> I mean, I don't think it failed
[06:47] <bob2> so
[06:47] <bob2> kill that window
[06:48] <ogge> How can i watch processes running?
[06:48] <sqrt> Does someone in here have a link to a guide for partitioning and dualbooting a windows xp so that it can run also linux?
[06:48] <bob2> ogge: depends what you mean
[06:48] <ogge> processes in ram
[06:48] <bob2> sqrt: install ubuntu.  enjoy!
[06:48] <bob2> ogge: still too vague
[06:48] <sqrt> bob2: I'd like to dual boot, though.
[06:48] <bob2> ogge: do you mean "watch what syscalls they make" or "watch how much cpu they use" or ...
[06:49] <murphy> Was that for me bob2? or someone else?
[06:49] <ogge> processes running, like CTRL + ALT + DEL in WIN XP.
[06:49] <bob2> sqrt: yes, ubuntu will install and configure a bootloader capable of booting either
[06:49] <mindspin> ps aux
[06:49] <bob2> sqrt: it will optionally let you resize existing windows partitions
[06:49] <ogge> bob2, both of em =)
[06:49] <bob2> ogge: maybe "top"
[06:49] <bob2> ogge: strace is you want to watch syscalls
[06:49] <sqrt> really? :O
[06:49] <ogge> bob2. thanks alot.
[06:49] <yuacht> bob2, through a local net with a router
[06:50] <bob2> most things are easy if you define exactly what you want
[06:50] <sqrt> bob2: so my stuff on the windows part won't be smashed?
[06:50] <bob2> murphy: yes...
[06:50] <bob2> sqrt: correct (unless the resizer is buggy, but presumably you have backups, etc, etc)
[06:50] <magnus> ciao tutti me ne vado
[06:51] <murphy> do I wan't do delete the directory /otherdrive?
[06:51] <aimaz> ogge: if you use gnome there is gnome-system-monitor too which is very similar to the win xp ctrl+alt+del thing
[06:51] <bob2> well, you're living on borrowed time, whatever yo udo
[06:51] <sqrt> true.
[06:51] <bob2> murphy: that sentence is unparsable, but "no, you don't want to deleted that directory"
[06:51] <OverDriv3> how come i only get the help schreen of a command when i try to run it?
[06:51] <OverDriv3> here is the command
[06:51] <OverDriv3> mount -t lufs none /mnt/ftp -n -o \
[06:51] <OverDriv3>   nosuid,fs=ftpfs,host=ftp.example.com, \ username=jzawodn,password=mypassword,ftpactive
[06:51] <murphy> ok, so my terminal is closed
[06:52] <murphy> sorry I'm so noobish
[06:52] <murphy> thanks a ton bob2
[06:52] <sobersabre> hi. how can i tune splashy ?
[06:52] <OverDriv3> anyone?
[06:53] <bob2> OverDriv3: when asking things like that, it's a lot easier if you paste the entire output, includign your command to #flood
[06:53] <yuacht> bob2, through a local net with a router
[06:53] <OverDriv3> what sort of channel is that?
[06:53] <bob2> a channel for pasting things...
[06:53] <bob2> yuacht: sounds like your router is being crap
[06:54] <OverDriv3> bob2: pasting things?
[06:54] <OverDriv3> what sort of things?
[06:54] <mindspin> output of commands
[06:54] <bob2> like the thing I just asked you to paste
[06:54] <bob2> but now I'm going to sleep
[06:55] <murphy> bye bob2
[06:55] <bob2> OverDriv3: you're still not doing what I said
[06:55] <bob2> which makes it incredibly frustrating to try to help you
[06:56] <bob2> when someone says "it's a lot easier if you paste the entire output, includign your command to #flood", what they mean is "please paste the entire output, including things you seem to think don't matter, to #flood"
[06:56] <OverDriv3> bob2: what did you say?
[06:56] <Alek> How do I install phpmyadmin ????
[06:56] <OverDriv3> hey, i have no idea what do do. It sound very strange to just paste it in there. Are there some magic guy ho knows my question?
[06:57] <bob2> jesus dude
[06:57] <bob2> it's so we can bloody see what the problem is
[06:57] <murphy> anyone else know how to change the permissions on a mounted drive?
[06:57] <bob2> since you just keep paraphrasing it
[06:57] <Alek> Any one here who have installed mysql ?
[06:57] <bob2> which is useless
[06:57] <OverDriv3> i thought people used to be friendly to noobs... sorry, man!
[06:57] <bob2> it's hard to be friendly when they continue to ignore advice
[06:57] <scarlettecho> Can anyone tell me how to get install Azureus?
[06:57] <mindspin> bob2 is very polite and friendly
[06:57] <bob2> forcing you to give me information so I can help you is more painfule for me than you
[06:58] <OverDriv3> i started writing commands an hour or two ago, i am not familiar at all with how linux works and how to use it
[06:58] <bob2> indeed
[06:58] <bob2> which is why you need to listen to people who try to help you
[06:58] <bob2> when I say  "it's a lot easier if you paste the entire output, includign your command to #flood", you need to do so
[06:58] <bob2> or say "I'm sorry, I don't know what that means"
[06:58] <chillywilly> is ubuntu a good server OS?
[06:58] <Alek> can any one help me with install phpmyadmin?
[06:58] <bob2> yes
[06:58] <chillywilly> :P
[06:59] <bob2> Alek: dude, use some initiative.  did you try installing the package of that name?
[06:59] <DeCaoS> I have ubuntu 4.10, and I installed ipop3 but during some minutes the service get down. :( I don't know why?? Can Anybody help me ? :$
[06:59] <OverDriv3> i run a community myself, a support forum for Mambo Open Source, and are very familiar with the problem that noobs don't give enough info on their questions. But i have no idea what information you need! And when you say the entire output, i am not even shure what that is!
[06:59] <Mondoshawan> Hi all i have a little strange problem with ubuntu can me somebody help who has expirience with enlightenment?
[06:59] <bob2> OverDriv3: dude
[07:00] <bob2> OverDriv3: you typed that mount command into your terminal
[07:00] <bob2> OverDriv3: now show us a) exactly what you typed, including your prompt, and b) the entire output of the command
[07:00] <bob2> no snipping, no "help output", the entire text
[07:00] <Alek> bob2, yeah i tried
[07:00] <xliu> mv and cp will overwrite the destination files withour asking, so how to prevent it?
[07:00] <mindspin> that means everything you see after hitting enter
[07:00] <Choubaka> xliu: mv -i
[07:00] <Choubaka> or cp -i
[07:01] <bob2> Alek: oh, so it worked?
[07:01] <OverDriv3> this is useless..
[07:01] <bob2> Alek: or did you forget to tell us the error?
[07:01] <bob2> wtf
[07:01] <bob2> someone please advise me how I could explain thigns more clearly to "overdrive"
[07:01] <DeCaoS> Where is uw-imap in ubuntu 4.10 ?
[07:01] <pim> je suis franais
[07:01] <sanitario> bob2, I don't think you could
[07:01] <mindspin> no way bob, he-#s lost
[07:01] <bob2> DeCaoS: just use dovecot
[07:01] <mindspin> maybe tomorrow
[07:02] <DeCaoS> :)
[07:02] <mindspin> information overkill
[07:02] <Nikopol_away> bob2: I'll help Alek
[07:02] <xliu> thanks Choubaka
[07:02] <scarlettecho> Would anyone here know how to install Azureus?
[07:02] <Choubaka> xliu: you can use alias too
[07:02] <xliu> alias?
[07:02] <xliu> then how to ?
[07:02] <Choubaka> xliu: add "alias mv='mv -i'" to some startup scripts.
[07:03] <xliu> Choubaka, so which startup files? bash.bashrc?
[07:03] <Choubaka> that makes it ask everytime if you want that.
[07:03] <mindspin> but it can hurt if you on a different machine
[07:03] <Choubaka> xliu: ~/.bash_profile I think. or ~/.bashrc
[07:03] <DeCaoS> bob2: dovecot authenticate by paswd?
[07:04] <lao_v> hiya..can anyone please help me in setting up postfix for my domain www.vmhost.co.uk???
[07:04] <mindspin> I could give you a good manual but its for debian
[07:05] <lao_v> mindspin: sure
[07:05] <mindspin> http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/
[07:05] <lao_v> thanks mindspin
[07:06] <mindspin> but be careful with blanks in configuring courierauth
[07:06] <aimaz> scarlettecho, http://ubuntuguide.org/#azureus
[07:06] <mindspin> its a pain
[07:06] <mindspin> sometimes
[07:06] <scarlettecho> aimaz, I did try that yesterday and it installed without a core component?
[07:06] <sanitario> DeCaoS, yes, you can use /etc/passwd with dovecot (if that is what you are indeed asking)
[07:06] <aimaz> scarlettecho, java did or azureus did?
[07:07] <murphy> uuhg, Is there any way to actually log into the root user??
[07:07] <scarlettecho> aimaz, Azureus did.  It wants to install update, then asked to restart, which I did but then still said it needed to update.
[07:07] <mindspin> lao_v if you need help try #postfix
[07:07] <pipe> murphy: There is the root console in the menu
[07:07] <mindspin> the guy who wrote that manual is there sometimes ;-)
[07:07] <DeCaoS> sanitario: thanks
[07:08] <sanitario> murphy, you could run sudo -s
[07:08] <ogge> How can I browse my win2k partition? Want some music :)
[07:08] <aimaz> scarlettecho, are you sure it was updatng the same thing
[07:08] <sanitario> murphy, or sudo su -
[07:08] <aimaz> scarlettecho, sometimes one update depends on another
[07:09] <murphy> hmm, Yeah, I want to change some permissions and I don't know the code to do that, so I wanted to do it through the GUI
[07:09] <scarlettecho> aimaz, no, I can't be sure.  and i removed Azureus.  so, i should re-install from the ubuntuguide.org site?
[07:09] <lynx> murphy
[07:10] <tonsku> hello world
[07:10] <murphy> hi lynx
[07:10] <lynx> can i see ur fstab configuration?
[07:10] <pipe> hello tonsku
[07:10] <murphy> yeah, one sec
[07:10] <sanitario> ogge, at first you need to mount your w2k partition
[07:10] <lao_v> thanks mindspin..sorry i got busy reading the link u gave :-)
[07:10] <mindspin> no prob
[07:10] <lao_v> i'm gonna get a serious headache very soon!
[07:10] <mindspin> it works fine for me
[07:11] <mindspin> and is probably what you want
[07:11] <lao_v> r u using it as localhost or for a tld?
[07:11] <murphy> lynx, look in #flood
[07:11] <ogge> sanitario. ok. and how do I mount?
[07:11] <mindspin> tld
[07:11] <sanitario> ogge, something like sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/w2k -t ntfs -o user,uid=1000,gid=1000
[07:11] <mindspin> with about 80 users
[07:11] <aimaz> scarlettecho, if you follow those instrcutions then it should install fine, it sounds like it was installed before ok, it just needed some updates specific to azureus, which it installs itself
[07:11] <lao_v> mindspin: cool..i know who to ask if i get stuck :-)
[07:11] <mindspin> smtp authentication is much cooler than popbefore smtp
[07:12] <sanitario> ogge, that is if you run ntfs and your w2k partition is the primary master, first partition
[07:12] <mindspin> yep
[07:12] <scarlettecho> aimaz, thanks. will try again.  i appreciate your help.
[07:12] <aimaz> scarlettecho, also try running azureus from the command line, perhaps when the update is downloaded it cannot be installed because of permission problems or something
[07:12] <murphy> so, no one know how to log into the root user from the GUI?
[07:12] <ogge> sanitario. thanx.
[07:12] <sanitario> ogge, and your userid is 1000
[07:12] <aimaz> if that's the case come here again and let these folks know the error
[07:12] <lao_v> mindspin: i would be happy at this point if i can get it to send something
[07:12] <scarlettecho> aimaz, will do. ty
[07:12] <lynx> murphy, put umask=022 in ur fstab
[07:12] <ogge> userid is 1000, how do I know my userid
[07:12] <murphy> ok
[07:13] <sanitario> ogge, if you're the only user on the machine, it should be 1000
[07:13] <lynx> look mine
[07:13] <sanitario> ogge, you can check by running the command: id
[07:14] <ogge> sanitario. ok, seems like the userid is 1000
[07:14] <ogge> and gid = 1000
[07:15] <ogge> mount point media/w2k doesnt exist.
[07:15] <murphy> Lynx, what did that do for me?
[07:15] <ogge> I got my music on C:/media/musik at my win2k partition.
[07:15] <murphy> AAAAAA!
[07:15] <Alek> Any here who have a "MSN BOT" ?
[07:16] <rade> bob2: do you have a minute? i'm having trouble compiling the driver for atmel
[07:16] <bob2> you don't need to compile it
[07:17] <rade> bob2: well, i really don't know what to do, i've installed everything i think i can install, and it's still not working, their site has newer drivers for download, and i'm afraid i might even need to rebuild my kernel to get this stupid thing working
[07:17] <sanitario> ogge, you need to sudo mkdir /media/w2k ; sudo chown ogge: /media/w2k
[07:17] <rade> bob2: according to their instructions
[07:18] <bob2> rade: just return it and get a neatgear ma-111, version 1
[07:18] <Alek> ANY ONE WHO HAS A MSN BOT?
[07:19] <Davey|Work> Does anyone know if I resize an NTFS partition with the Ubuntu installer, will it format it?
[07:19] <devios> a msn bot?
[07:19] <jbroome> Alek: no response to two inquiries leads me to believe, that no.  no one does
[07:19] <mindspin> Alek you know capital letters are for shouting?
[07:19] <ogge> cool, it does work sanitario. thanx.
[07:19] <rade> bob2: i don't know if i can afford it, i mean, i'm a student, in germany, from serbia, i can't return this one because i bought it over ebay
[07:19] <sanitario> ogge, no problem
[07:20] <bob2> Alek: stop being annoying
[07:20] <lpih> Guys
[07:20] <mindspin> rade sell it again and get anew one (used)
[07:20] <lpih> I've done desktop install for a SMP computer
[07:20] <lpih> it's been used a desktop.. is it stupid to just delete xorg and stuffs from it
[07:20] <murphy> when I try to log in to the root user through the main login screen, it says" The root user can't login here"
[07:20] <bob2> rade: well, good luck
[07:20] <lpih> and continue using it as a server
[07:20] <bob2> murphy: so don't do that
[07:20] <lpih> or should i do a fresh install
[07:20] <Davey|Work> murphy: you use sudo
[07:20] <sjmurdoch> This page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto says: "At this point, you need to change your kernel's configuration to statically include your bus, disk, and filesystem drivers." - do you know why this is the case? I never did this in Debian Woody and didn't have problems.
[07:20] <murphy> so, where am I supposed to login other than the terminal?
[07:21] <bob2> murphy: you dont ever login as root
[07:21] <murphy> I'm just trying to avoid unix commands,
[07:21] <ogge> what mp3 player for ubuntu hoary, xfce4 do you prefer. want a small, fast one.
[07:21] <murphy> ok,
[07:21] <bob2> sjmurdoch: if you didn't do it on woody, you wouldn't have had a bootable kernel
[07:21] <Davey|Work> myosotis: login as your regular user, and type "sudo " before a command to make it run as root
[07:21] <bob2> sjmurdoch: the default woody config included such things statically
[07:21] <murphy> I do on a mac in osX, that's why I'm confused
[07:21] <Davey|Work> myosotis: to login as root, simple login as aanother user and type "sudo passwd root" to set a root password, then type "exit" or "login" and login :)
[07:22] <Choubaka> no :(
[07:22] <murphy> bob2: lynx had me change that thing in my fstab to 022
[07:22] <Choubaka> don't enable the root account for no reason.
[07:22] <Choubaka> if you need a root shell, use sudo -i
[07:22] <murphy> what do I do to gain access to my mounted drive through my admin user?
[07:22] <sjmurdoch> bob2: But not on Hoary? Above that warning it says to copy the .config from /boot to the compile directory and that was sufficient for Woody
[07:22] <murphy> through the gui?
[07:22] <devios> I just installed openssh-server.  when I try to start the service, I get: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
[07:22] <devios> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[07:22] <devios> Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key
[07:22] <devios>  *hd: no hostkeys available -- exiting.                                  [fail]
[07:23] <devios> nm - it was because I was trying to start ssh as a normal user
[07:24] <devios> forgot to sudo
[07:24] <bob2> sjmurdoch: why are you compiling a kernel anyway?
[07:24] <bob2> devios: er, it starts by default...
[07:24] <sjmurdoch> bob2: I am trying to debug a device driver, so want to make some changes to it
[07:24] <devios> bob2: it does.  I had to change the port it listened on, so I stopped it
[07:25] <devios> bob2: and then forgot to sudo when restarting it
[07:25] <ogge> the smallest, lightest mp3 player out there for ubuntu hoary, xfce4 ?
[07:25] <Seveas> beep-media-player
[07:25] <bob2> ogge: you don't want it, but cplay
[07:25] <sjmurdoch> bob2: Ubuntu would appear to be different. The .boot/config... in Hoary has IDE as a module, whereas in Woody it is static
[07:25] <ogge> apt-get insatll cplay ?
[07:26] <bob2> sjmurdoch: yes, woody was from 2002
[07:26] <bob2> sjmurdoch: sarge is the same as hoary
[07:26] <blake__> hey can someone help me please
[07:26] <bob2> sjmurdoch: if you know how to debug a driver, presumably you know how to configure a kernel, so just go from scratch
[07:26] <blake__> i think i did something stupid
[07:27] <blake__> lol
[07:27] <sjmurdoch> bob2: I could, but I haven't compiled one with Ubuntu and just installed it yesterday so am looking for the easiest option
[07:28] <sjmurdoch> I am also interested in finding the differences between Woody and Hoary
[07:28] <Kartagis> hello
[07:28] <bob2> sjmurdoch: it's identical to every other os
[07:28] <SliderMan> how can i check what grafics card has started?
[07:28] <blake__> there was a folder on my desktop that i sisn't want anyone to see so i wen't to prefrances and un checked all the options and now it dissapeered and i need it back!!!! someone plase help
[07:28] <{Seb}> sjmurdoch: hoary has newer packages
[07:29] <bob2> sjmurdoch: this is not between "woody and hoary" it's between "2002 and the modern world".  everyone is doing initrd now
[07:29] <maruchan> hello i was wondering if someone could help me fix my sound
[07:29] <blake__> please someone help i need my porn back
[07:30] <blake__> lmoa
[07:30] <sjmurdoch> bob2: So if I use an initrd, I don't need to compile in bus/disk/filesystem? That howto implies that it does, which confused me
[07:30] <bob2> I don't htink it does imply that, but you are are correct
[07:30] <Seveas> blake__, chmod u+rwx ~/Desktop/NAME_OF_FOLDER
[07:30] <bob2> \however, it's a massive pain in the ass, so avoid it if possible
[07:31] <sjmurdoch> bob2: An initrd is a pain in the ass?
[07:31] <topyli> blake__: change the permissions as root (use sudo)
[07:31] <maruchan> my sound sounds like crap
[07:31] <blake__> ok i'll try that do i need to do it sudo
[07:31] <blake__> ooh ok
[07:31] <jfk303> Hello, how do I give a folder (and ALL its sub folders / files) full rwx permissions to all users?
[07:31] <bob2> sjmurdoch: yes
[07:31] <ogge> wow. beep-media-player is really nice :)
[07:31] <resiak> jfk303: Why are you doing that?
[07:31] <topyli> blake__: in the future, just rename it to .pr0n so it's hidden :)
[07:32] <Seveas> jfk303, chmod -R a+rwX foldername
[07:32] <sjmurdoch> bob2: In what way, I haven't had any problems in the past, and have used it because it was the Woody default
[07:32] <sjmurdoch> ?
[07:32] <jfk303> resaiak, its music everyone needs access to
[07:32] <maruchan> i think the problem with my sound it sounds mono
[07:32] <Kartagis> I have to install nvidia drivers. I apt-get'd nvidia-kernel-source. that required kernel-source. I apt-cache search'd kernel-source but there's only 2-4-27 but my current kernel is 2.6.10. what to do?
[07:32] <blake__> what will that do
[07:32] <blake__> it will hide it??/
[07:32] <blake__> how
[07:32] <topyli> yes
[07:32] <bob2> sjmurdoch: no, initrds are not the default on woody
[07:32] <resiak> jfk303: So make a group and add the appropriate people to that group. Also, why should music be executable?
[07:33] <topyli> blake__: ok, open your home folder in nautilus
[07:33] <SliderMan> how can i check what grafics card has started?
[07:33] <topyli> blake__: then select view -> hidden files and see how much hidden crap you have :)
[07:33] <Seveas> blake__, files and folders of which the name start with a '.' are considered hidden
[07:33] <justin> Kartagis: why do you think that you need to compile the nvidia drivers?
[07:33] <jfk303> resaik, it dosnt really matter - doing a fresh install soon
[07:34] <sjmurdoch> bob2: Isn't kernel-image built with a initrd  - I certainly have an initrd from the default kernel lying around?
[07:34] <selinium> Hi all , for some reason my cdrom drives have stopped working. here is the error message http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/257
[07:34] <resiak> jfk303: All the more reason to mess around now.
[07:34] <bob2> sjmurdoch: kernel-image, yes, but the default kernel is not from a kernel-image package
[07:35] <bob2> anyway, do whatever yo uwant
[07:35] <bob2> have fun
[07:35] <sjmurdoch> bob2: Thanks for your help
[07:36] <SliderMan> failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager: chiled terminated with 1 status WTF?
[07:36] <lilricky> got a question, this is my first time with Ubuntu, I've been weaned on Debian and Mandrake, when I installed Hoary, it didnt ask for a root password, I've tried ubuntu, root, null cant seem to find out what it is.  What is the default root password?
[07:36] <jfk303> resaik, theres loads of different owners / permissions all in there, its a real mess, I just want music now
[07:36] <selinium> lilricky: use sudo it's safer
[07:36] <resiak> jfk303: Meh, whatever :)
[07:37] <mindspin> jfl303 chmod -r * 777
[07:37] <mindspin> jfl303 chmod -R * 777
[07:37] <DeCaoS> I used uw , Now installed dovecot but my user mail no connect :( why
[07:37] <lilricky> ok, but when I run a program from the gui that requires root privileges it asks for it
[07:37] <mindspin> so everybody can enjoy
[07:37] <Kartagis> I have to install nvidia drivers. I apt-get'd nvidia-kernel-source. that required kernel-source. I apt-cache search'd kernel-source but there's only 2-4-27 but my current kernel is 2.6.10. what to do?
[07:38] <pedingto> lilricky: sudo passwd root
[07:38] <fivre> why is it that when I chmod the settings for /dev/dsp they disappear when I reboot?
[07:38] <blaylock> when i install a kernel update, why is it that uname still gives me the same kernel from the installation?
[07:38] <pedingto> then you can set the root password.
[07:38] <jbroome> blaylock: did you reboot?
[07:38] <lilricky> duh, thanks, forgot about that :)
[07:38] <pedingto> :)
[07:38] <blaylock> synaptic even says that the currently installed version is the updated one
[07:38] <blaylock> jbroome, yeah i rebooted
[07:38] <fivre> lilricky, when it asks for your pass in the GUI, it means your password
[07:38] <Kartagis> hello?
[07:38] <fivre> the one you use to sudo
[07:39] <blake__> that didn't work
[07:39] <narkceh> I cannot install mplayer in apt-get install because there isn't any? Should i do something with /etc/apt/sources.list?
[07:39] <blaylock> jbroome, but grub only has one kernel listed to choose from
[07:39] <blake__> it says it can't find the file
[07:39] <lilricky> no fivre its not accepting the user password, it wants the root one
[07:39] <Seveas> fivre, /dev/ is created on boot
[07:39] <pedingto> he hasn't set the root password yet fivre.
[07:39] <Alek> narkceh, yes
[07:40] <SliderMan> failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager: chiled terminated with 1 status WTF?
[07:40] <fivre> hmm
[07:40] <Seveas> SliderMan, what happens if you run sudo update-manager from the terminal?
[07:40] <SliderMan> i dont know :)
[07:40] <SliderMan> sec
[07:40] <fivre> is there anyway to set it to change permissions on startup?
[07:40] <Seveas> SliderMan, then try ;)
[07:40] <narkceh> Alek: any idea what should i do?
[07:40] <maruchan> in alsamixer it has things like sourround off and other crap is their a way to turn it on
[07:41] <Alek> narkceh, you open the file with gedit..., and changes the servers...
[07:41] <Seveas> fivre, why would you want to change it..?
[07:41] <Alek> narkceh, I can send you my file...
[07:41] <narkceh> Alek: sure
[07:41] <SliderMan> filed to run /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator: child terminated with 1 status
[07:41] <SliderMan> :-
[07:41] <fivre> because, every time I true to use xmms or rhythmboxm, it seems to require that file
[07:41] <SliderMan> :(
[07:42] <Seveas> SliderMan, a normal terminal, not the root terminal...
[07:42] <fivre> I guess I could just run it as sudo and go from there
[07:42] <SnowWrite> hi.. I just delivered a server to a local school district with Ubuntu, Zope and Plone installed.. it's a Dell Poweredge.. it keeps locking up..
[07:42] <SliderMan> moshe is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported. WTF?
[07:42] <rezzcobain> Can anyone help me with installing the drivers for my ATI card...im new to linux altogether
[07:43] <fivre|afk> moshe needs to be added to that file
[07:43] <Seveas> SliderMan, well, there ya go, add ypur user to the sudoers file...
[07:43] <SliderMan> how?
[07:43] <Seveas> rezzcobain: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:43] <fivre|afk> sudo visudo with an account that can
[07:43] <Seveas> indeed :)
[07:43] <justin> fivre|afk: don't touch /dev/dsp. add your user accounts to the audio group
[07:44] <mindspin> SnowWrite what do you mean with "locks up"
[07:44] <Alek> narkceh, you got it?
[07:44] <Alek> narkceh, just make a backup file first
[07:44] <SnowWrite> we have to reboot it..
[07:44] <SnowWrite> physically.
[07:44] <maruchan> so can anyone helpo me fix my sound, please
[07:44] <mindspin> you mean it "freezes"
[07:44] <SnowWrite> yes :-)
[07:45] <SnowWrite> it was fine for about a week.. now the technical guy at the district has to drive over to the data center to reboot it
[07:45] <murtun> hey all
[07:45] <Seveas> SliderMan, please *ask* before starting a private chat....
[07:45] <SliderMan> how?
[07:45] <SliderMan> i asked
[07:45] <Seveas> SnowWrite, do you get any info from the logs
[07:45] <murtun> Is Ubuntu ment to come with gcc un installed???
[07:45] <mindspin> have a look at the logs, maybe the harddisk is filled with sensless logfiles
[07:45] <Seveas> SliderMan, fivre|afk answered that...
[07:46] <Seveas> murtun, yes
[07:46] <ogge> how to take screenshot in xfce4?
[07:46] <murtun> Ahh
[07:46] <SliderMan> what?
[07:46] <Seveas> it is available on the CD and from the repositories
 sudo visudo with an account that can
[07:46] <murtun> seveas, what kind of binaries does ubuntu use>
[07:46] <Seveas> murtun, ELF of course...
[07:46] <murtun> what are the endings?
[07:46] <Seveas> endings..?
[07:47] <mindspin> .bgb
[07:47] <murtun> like u have..   .rpm   .tar
[07:47] <murtun> ahh
[07:47] <Seveas> murtun, ah, pachages
[07:47] <Seveas> .deb
[07:47] <mindspin> no its not .bgb
[07:47] <murtun> :)
[07:47] <mindspin> 't was ajoke
[07:47] <SliderMan> what can i do?
[07:47] <Seveas> ubuntu is a debian derivative, so it uses .deb
[07:47] <Seveas> SliderMan, READ WHAT FIVRE SAID!!
[07:47] <SliderMan> sudo visudo with an account that can
[07:47] <mindspin> trust seveas more than me
[07:47] <SliderMan> i dont have some accounts
[07:48] <SliderMan> only moshe
[07:48] <SliderMan> :(
[07:48] <fivre> hmm
[07:48] <SnowWrite> not yet Seveas.. I'm new to this.. I'll take a look at the logs.. thing is it's firewalled and they poked holes for me so I could work on the Plone interface.. and I don't have as much access now as I did when it was in my data center..
[07:48] <Seveas> SliderMan, then how come moshe got deleted..?
[07:48] <CarlFK> what is the resolution of a modified datetime on ext3 fs?
[07:48] <fivre> reboot and go to rescue mode
[07:48] <SliderMan> ?
[07:48] <CarlFK> or any FS other than fat
[07:48] <fivre> Seveas: he probably changed the name
[07:48] <mindspin> SnowWrite ssh access is kinda better
[07:48] <Seveas> SliderMan, moshe did not 'just get deleted' from the sudoers file
[07:48] <SliderMan> :L(
[07:48] <Seveas> you must have done that yourself, or taken yourself out of the admin group
[07:49] <fivre> did you rename it?
[07:49] <murtun> anyone recommend a site for Debian / ubuntu binary's?
[07:49] <Riddell> packages.ubuntu.com
[07:49] <Seveas> murtun, the Ubuntu packages can be installed with the package management system
[07:49] <SnowWrite> have that too.. :-) I just was wondering if there were any issues.. with ubuntu and dell already.. i'll go take a look at the wiki
[07:49] <murtun> nice oen
[07:49] <Seveas> murtun, system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[07:49] <murtun> and what is that seveas
[07:49] <Seveas> ^-- that :)
[07:49] <murtun> Ahh cheers :)
[07:49] <fivre> SliderMan: In any case, reboot, and choose Ubuntu Rescue Mode, which will give you a root terminal
[07:50] <fivre> visudo from there
[07:50] <mindspin> SnowWrite: remember wether you enabled logging for some reasons anywhere, once I set mysql to log everything and got 250 M of logfiles within an hour
[07:50] <fivre> and edit the file
[07:50] <andersbr> I'm trying to back up my mom's Windows laptop onto my computer.  The transfer is going at about 1.5Mbit/sec,  which seems suspiciously slow.  Anyone have any ideas?
[07:51] <SliderMan> thanks i will try it :-
[07:51] <selinium> Hi all , for some reason my cdrom drives have stopped working. here is the error message http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/257 please help! :)
[07:51] <Seveas> selinium, please put a good cd rom in the drive :)
[07:51] <murphy> ok, sorry, I'm still having a big pain with this
[07:52] <murphy> does anyone know how to change disk permissions?
[07:52] <Seveas> murphy, chmod
[07:52] <murphy> ok, thanks
[07:52] <Seveas> murphy, what do you want exactly?
[07:52] <selinium> Seveas: cheers! it creates that error message when a music cd is put in. It works ok for data.
[07:52] <ranek> I had this problem this moring the day after installing a ron of Ubuntu stuff
[07:52] <Seveas> selinium, lol :) music cd's can't be mounted
[07:52] <SnowWrite> good point mindspin.. I think we set that up.. logging.. i know the server was setup to boot up squid, webmin, awstats, zope, cmf, plone.. etc.. but maybe the issue is with Squid.. just waiting for server to reboot so I can troubleshoot
[07:52] <murphy> I just want to be able to access a drive I have mounted.  I want to access the data outside of my root user
[07:53] <Seveas> murphy, is it a windows drive or something..?
[07:53] <Am1t^Z> hey guys
[07:53] <ranek> When I loged in it would get pass the username and pass word then it would show a brown screen with the mouse and nothing would happen
[07:53] <selinium> Seveas: When a music cd is put in I cannot acces it either? (Feeling a little sheepish! :P )
[07:53] <Am1t^Z> is thier any possible way to use an .exe file on ubuntu?
[07:53] <rade> bob2: sorry to bother you again, i'm trying to configure the driver now, before i compile it (i don't see another alternative), but i seem to be missing /include/asm/irq_vectors.h, i don't even have an asm directory in my kernel source, have you had this problem before?
[07:54] <Seveas> selinium, just playing with a music player doesn't work?
[07:54] <Seveas> Am1t^Z, you might have luck with wine...
[07:54] <Am1t^Z> can i get wine from package manager?
[07:54] <Seveas> yes
[07:54] <Am1t^Z> ok
[07:54] <murphy> it's a NTFS formatted data drive
[07:54] <Am1t^Z> im gonna go grab it
[07:54] <Seveas> murphy, did you put it in your /etc/fstab?
[07:54] <murphy> yes
[07:54] <GNULinuxer> murphy, sudo chmod 777 /path/to/your/partition
[07:55] <Seveas> GNULinuxer, that won't work for NTFS...
[07:55] <Seveas> murphy, remove it again from /etc/fstab
[07:55] <Seveas> murphy: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[07:55] <GNULinuxer> Seveas, NTFS ? aah
[07:55] <murphy> chmod: changing permissions of `/otherdrive': Read-only file system
[07:55] <murtun> wow, ubuntu is the best :D
[07:55] <murphy> what does that mean?
[07:56] <fivre> hmmm...
[07:56] <ranek> Were can I get Frivers for my Geforce 4 MX 440 for ubuntu?
[07:56] <Am1t^Z> look on site
[07:56] <Am1t^Z> its thier
[07:56] <ranek> Drivers*
[07:56] <Alek> any one here who can perl?
[07:56] <Am1t^Z> www.ubuntulinux.org
[07:56] <Seveas> ranek: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:56] <ogge> anyone know how to take a screenshot / screendump in xfce4?
[07:56] <Seveas> Alek, #perl
[07:56] <fivre> can ubuntu dist-upgrade from an install cd?
[07:56] <selinium> Seveas: Arrghhh It works.... I have been wasting soooo much time trying to fix something that wasn't broke.. THankyou for showing me the light.
[07:56] <Alek> Seveas, ya
[07:56] <Seveas> fivre, yes
[07:56] <mindspin> Alek what do you wanna know?
[07:56] <fivre> thank god
[07:56] <murtun> Thanks for all your help guys + girls
[07:56] <murtun> :D
[07:56] <murtun> Adios
[07:56] <Seveas> Alek, i meant, try the channel #perl :)
[07:57] <Alek> mindspin, I need help with an bot
[07:57] <Alek> Seveas, ok
[07:57] <rade> does anyone know why i don#t have /include/asm/irq_vectors.h in my kernel source ?
[07:57] <rade> do i need to install another package?
[07:57] <mindspin> try #perl ;-)
[07:57] <Seveas> rade, what did you install?
[07:58] <selinium> Seveas: this all started when i put a data cd in the drive and tried to view the contents. DO i need to mount the cd before I can? Does ubuntu not mount a data cd automatically?
[07:58] <Hudud> do u know if there is a utility that clean the memory ?
[07:58] <moshe> how do i start ubunto in safe mode?
[07:58] <Seveas> selinium, it should automount...
[07:58] <Alek> mindspin, an msn bot who uses perl...
[07:58] <Seveas> moshe, there is no such thing....
[07:58] <moshe> ?
[07:58] <Seveas> moshe, there is however the 'recovery mode'
[07:58] <fivre> moshe: you mean rescue mode?
[07:58] <rade> seveas: well i installed the kernel source initially, which just put an archive containing the source into /usr/src (is that normal).. then i installed the headers for the kernel, but they're in seperate directories in /usr/src
[07:58] <moshe> yes
[07:58] <moshe> :-
[07:58] <mindspin> I have no clue on msn, neither about bots
[07:59] <fivre> it should be in the GRUB menu
[07:59] <moshe> how can i add my self to admin list?
[07:59] <fivre> right below regular ubuntu
[07:59] <moshe> :-
[07:59] <mindspin> I even don't know what msn is
[07:59] <Seveas> rade, did you unpack that tarball?
[08:00] <moshe> how can i add my self to admin list?
[08:00] <fivre> sudo visudo
[08:00] <moshe> but i cant i not admin :-
[08:00] <BockBilbo> hey there
[08:00] <ranek> Can one tell me what i need to do to set up Ubuntu? i really don't know what I am doing.
[08:00] <rade> seveas: yes, i did, but there isn't even an asm directory in include, just asm-*
[08:00] <ranek> anyone*
[08:00] <Seveas> fivre, lol, that will only work if he is admin already ;)
[08:00] <selinium> Seveas:  Any reason i can check why it isn't?
[08:00] <fivre> moshe: In recovery mode, use the visudo command
[08:00] <dbernar1> ranek be more specific
[08:00] <dbernar1> set up what.
[08:00] <murphy> root@linuxman:/home/murphy # sudo chmod 777 /otherdrive
[08:00] <murphy> chmod: changing permissions of `/otherdrive': Read-only file system
[08:00] <Seveas> selinium, check if D-BUS is running...
[08:00] <moshe> thanks!
[08:00] <mindspin> moshe have you tried sudo visudo?
[08:01] <murphy> what od I need to change?
[08:01] <fivre> that will bring you to the sudoers file
[08:01] <moshe> from here yes
[08:01] <moshe> ..
[08:01] <Seveas> murphy, do as I said: remove it from fstab and run that little script...
[08:01] <mindspin> not from recovery mode?
[08:01] <ranek> I dunno I am new to Ubuntu and I don't know how to do most of every thing
[08:01] <ranek> Like getting Drivers for my Graphics card
[08:01] <Am1t^Z> ok
[08:02] <Am1t^Z> i installed libwine
[08:02] <Seveas> ranek: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:02] <Am1t^Z> where would i find it?
[08:02] <Seveas> Am1t^Z, you need to install wine itself
[08:02] <Seveas> and read the manual on winehq.net
[08:02] <Seveas> (or .com)
[08:02] <murphy> wow, sorry I missed that
[08:02] <murphy> which script?
[08:02] <BockBilbo> ive got a wierd problem, i have an iriver mp3 of 40Gb storage with vfat format, which i mount as /dev/sda1, and it has like 6 gigas free, but it happens that when mounting it on linux it doesnt let me write anything cause it says that the disk is full. Ive checked what df -l says, and it says that the use is of 100% and that there is no free space, which isnt true, cause the mp3 itself tells me it has 6 gigas free, and i have also checked that in win and def
[08:02] <BockBilbo> enitively it isnt full.
[08:02] <Seveas> murphy: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[08:02] <murphy> wait
[08:02] <murphy> got it
[08:02] <BockBilbo> what might be happening?
[08:03] <rade> seveas: any ideas on what my problem is?
[08:03] <mindspin> is vfat able to handle that amount of space?
[08:03] <fivre> Is it possible to change which partition Ubuntu is on without losing all settings and whatnot?
[08:03] <murphy> thanks
[08:04] <Seveas> rade, not really...
[08:04] <BockBilbo> mindspin, yes
[08:04] <Seveas> mindspin, it should be :)
[08:04] <SliderMan> moshe@SerVer:~$ sudo visudo moshe
[08:04] <SliderMan> Password:
[08:04] <SliderMan> moshe is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[08:04] <SliderMan> moshe@SerVer:~$
[08:04] <Seveas> fivre, yes, but not too easy
[08:04] <SliderMan> baa
[08:04] <SliderMan> im in recovery mode
[08:04] <SliderMan> :-
[08:04] <Seveas> SliderMan, you should be root in recovery mode
[08:04] <fivre> are you sure?
[08:04] <selinium> Seveas: it appears to be running.
[08:04] <Seveas> you should have hit enter insteald of <ctrl>something...
[08:05] <SliderMan> its asked my user and password
[08:05] <SliderMan> yes
[08:05] <SliderMan> crtl _d
[08:05] <fivre> in GRUB?
[08:05] <SliderMan> +d
[08:05] <SliderMan> yes its ask my user and pass
[08:05] <SliderMan> :-
[08:05] <Seveas> selinium, maybe you disabled it in system -> prefs -> removable media
[08:05] <murphy> silly question, how do I run a script?
[08:05] <jmjones> anyone know if the marillat stuff is down?  I can't get to transcode.....
[08:05] <Seveas> fivre, you might need to reinstall grub
[08:05] <Seveas> and you will need to change its config
[08:05] <fivre> SliderMan: what option are you choosing in GRUB?
[08:06] <BockBilbo> Seveas... dont want to bother you, but any idea of why is this happening?
[08:06] <jmjones> murphy: `chmod +x <scriptname>; ./<scriptname>`
[08:06] <fivre> hmm, well, that's a lot easier than Windows
[08:06] <fivre> at least it's possible
[08:06] <Seveas> BockBilbo, well, it happened to me once after an unclean unmount
[08:06] <Seveas> BockBilbo, try chkdisk on windows
[08:06] <Seveas> murphy, sudo bash windows_fstab
[08:07] <BockBilbo> but, Seveas chkdisk wont format it
[08:07] <BockBilbo> right?
[08:07] <Seveas> no
[08:07] <BockBilbo> oks
[08:07] <BockBilbo> gonna try it
[08:07] <rade> has anyone ever had a problem with a missing irq_vectors.h file in /include/asm under the kernel source directory?
[08:07] <SliderMan> i press ESC and menu apeers with 3 options i choose 2 (recivery) its told me to press crtl+d to continue i preesed its start and ask my user and password :-
[08:07] <biffurt> hey all - I had a question about totem/video playback. Is there any way to optimize playback? It's pretty choppy on my machine.
[08:07] <biffurt> Vague question, I know
[08:08] <biffurt> but I'm pretty new to linux. No idea where to start.
[08:08] <Seveas> SliderMan, it also sait: press enter to login as root
[08:08] <Seveas> SliderMan, you should have done that...
[08:08] <SliderMan> enter
[08:08] <SliderMan> no user?
[08:08] <Am1t^Z> wow
[08:08] <Am1t^Z> those directions on wine make no sense
[08:08] <Seveas> rade, install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:08] <SliderMan> baa
[08:08] <SliderMan> :-
[08:08] <Seveas> it's in the headers package
[08:08] <Alek> any one who know what this error is: ??? #2002 - Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[08:08] <Alek> #2002 - Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[08:09] <ranek> Is there a way to get in to the terminal with out having to be logged in? cause alst time i set the Nvidia drivers it wouldnt let me log in.
[08:09] <murphy> WOW!!!!!
[08:09] <Seveas> Alek, install mysql-server...
[08:09] <murphy> Seveas! Thanks you so much!!!!
[08:09] <murphy> You are amazing!!!!!!!
[08:09] <timtux> Hi, ive got a problem. My installation of ubuntu freez when i comming to "configurating apt". What can the problem be?
[08:09] <gm78> ranek, CTRL+ALT+F2
[08:09] <Seveas> ranek, ALT-F& to return to the GUI
[08:09] <Seveas> F7
[08:10] <Am1t^Z> does anyone wanna step me through installation of wine p[lease
[08:10] <timtux> Read reame
[08:10] <timtux> readme*
[08:10] <Alek> seveas, have done it
[08:10] <Seveas> Am1t^Z, wine is not that easy, please read the documentation...
[08:10] <gm78> Hey all. What does everyone think of this workstation from Sun.  My installation of ubuntu freez when i comming to "configuring apt...". What can the problem be? It have show 25% for about a half hour now.
[08:11] <Seveas> BockBilbo, ENOCLUE :)
[08:11] <BockBilbo> nevermind
[08:11] <BockBilbo> found it
[08:11] <Seveas> rightclick on the drive from explorer did the trick for me...
[08:11] <SliderMan> when i try to login to root with my password its tolde to me that i cant login from this screen :-
[08:11] <gm78> timtux, mine took a while too....not quite that long but still awhile...i was ready to restart and it started working again
[08:11] <SliderMan> :-
[08:11] <gm78> SliderMan, u configured the root password or are you just trying your password from sudo?
[08:12] <Seveas> timtux, what kind of network connection does that machine have..?
[08:12] <timtux> gm78, okej ;)
[08:12] <selinium> Seveas: I have just placed a data disc in to cdrom0, it does not show up in /dev/cdrom0. After manually sudo mounting it the files are shown. Have I lost the rights to access the drives?
[08:12] <SliderMan> root have my password
[08:12] <SliderMan> :-
[08:12] <timtux> 10/10mbit
[08:12] <SliderMan> i tryed null and my pass
[08:12] <Seveas> selinium, hmm, are you running breezy or kernel 2.12 perhaps?
[08:12] <gm78> SliderMan, so u used sudo passwd root from your account at some point?
[08:12] <topyli> gm78: doesn't the workstation come with a perfectly good solaris installation? ;)
[08:12] <timtux> Seveas: 10/10 (100/100 in some networks)
[08:12] <dr_willis> loging directly in as root is disabled SliderMan
[08:12] <SliderMan> its the same pass
[08:13] <Seveas> timtux, so it's wired?
[08:13] <Seveas> SliderMan, did you set a root password?
[08:13] <rade> seveas: thanks a lot! i did install the headers before, but 686, because i have a p4, but uname -r told me i needed 386 and now it works!
[08:13] <andersbr> gm78:  Nice computer.  I'll take three.
[08:13] <selinium> Seveas: No i am running hoary 5.04 I believe. I switched a little while ago to the K7 version.
[08:13] <gm78> topyli, already tried solaris...nice OS but I don't see the point in learning ANOTHER whole new OS when Linux is secure and serves my needs well
[08:13] <SliderMan> mm i dont know how but its have my password
[08:13] <timtux> Seveas, it dosent go up to 100%, have stand at 25% for a half hour now.
[08:13] <Seveas> hmm, odd, did you try restarting selinium ?
[08:13] <topyli> gm78: yep
[08:14] <timtux> Somone from sweden? ;D
[08:14] <Seveas> timtux, I meant "the network connection is wired, right"?
[08:14] <LokeDK> Is there some way to bind "import -window root something.jpg" to the Print scrn button? would be nice to take screenshots while gaming.. without gnome's popup window thingie
[08:14] <gm78> topyli, I'm debating between getting it and throwing Ubuntu on it or CentOS. I heard that yum/rpm systems have better support for multi-arch libs than Debian....is this the same with Ubuntu?
[08:14] <selinium> Seveas: I have yes... It is a bit strange! I have cdrom in my groups! It is not too much of a problem now I know i can still listen to music and get files, but it is just a bit of a pain having to manually mount things... :)
[08:14] <Seveas> LokeDK, sure. Remove it as shortcut for the gnome printscreen, make a custom command and bind prt scr to it
[08:14] <timtux> Seveas, no the network connection is just fine...
[08:15] <topyli> gm78: nothing supports more than debian
[08:15] <biffurt> hey all - I had a question about totem/video playback. Is there any way to optimize or speed up playback? Better programs to use then totem? is xine faster?
[08:15] <Seveas> selinium, plugdev should be there too iirc
[08:15] <Seveas> (in your groups)
[08:15] <andersbr> Question:  Still getting under 2Mb/s transferring files on the local network.  Any ideas on how to look for the bottleneck?
[08:15] <Seveas> gm78, yum/rpm SUCKS compared to apt/deb
[08:15] <topyli> gm78: but perhaps i don't get what you mean with multi-arch libs here
[08:15] <LokeDK> Seveas, how do i bind a command to it?
[08:15] <selinium> Seveas: GOt plugdec as well.   iirc?
[08:16] <timtux> ubuntu is harder then Gentoo to install ;->
[08:16] <Seveas> LokeDK, check the apps/metacity section in gconf-editor
[08:16] <gm78> topyli, no...what i mean is that i heard apt doesn't support say having imlib2-i386 and imlib2-amd64 installed on the same system.....also, ignoring solaris, what do u think of the system overall (the cheaper $875 configuration)
[08:16] <SliderMan> seveas, mm i dont know how but its have my password
[08:16] <LokeDK> Seveas, thx
[08:16] <Seveas> SliderMan, then simply login as root on a different virtual terminal (switch with <ctrl><alt><F3>
[08:16] <SliderMan> ohh fuck the world:-
[08:17] <selinium> SliderMan: watch the potty mouth :)
[08:17] <rade> seveas, i have another question, i now have the problem "X Windows include files missing", but i can't find xorg-dev or something in synaptic, is there another repository i should use or are the headers in some other package?
[08:17] <topyli> gm78: don't know about such library situations
[08:17] <Seveas> xlibs-dev will help
[08:17] <ompaul> random thought, should a user who is having printing problems be able to click on the System ->  Administrating -> Printing and along with being offered the chance to configure printers (after all could be a new one) be offered a system print one page one line test - if test fails and there is a previous known good value that could be offered, with a last option if there is a usb subsystem being used for the printing it could be 'reboot
[08:17] <ompaul> ed'
[08:18] <Alek> how to change mysql password?
[08:18] <Seveas> ompaul, it's not really clear what you mean...
[08:18] <SliderMan> seveas, what i need to wite to add me?
[08:18] <Seveas> Alek, you can do that with phpmyadmin (you had that installed right?)
[08:18] <selinium> Seveas: Thank for all your help. I will be rebuilding the pc soon anyway, I am sure the problems will disappear after a fresh install. Thanks again. :)
[08:18] <Alek> seveas, yes
[08:19] <Alek> seveas, but i cant log in
[08:19] <Seveas> SliderMan, your_login ALL=(ALL) ALL
[08:19] <rade> seveas: thanks again!
[08:19] <SliderMan> seveas, all?
[08:19] <Seveas> Alek, the default mysql login is root without password
[08:19] <Seveas> SliderMan, yes, you need to add only that...
[08:20] <SliderMan> seveas, i loged on to root what next?
[08:20] <timtux> How long "config. apt..." take?
[08:20] <Alek> seveas, i have tryed
[08:20] <Seveas> SliderMan, sudo visodo
[08:20] <Seveas> SliderMan, go to the last line
[08:20] <Alek> seveas, and got an error
[08:20] <Seveas> SliderMan, then hit o
[08:20] <Seveas> and add that line of text
[08:20] <Seveas> then hit ESC
[08:20] <Seveas> and type :wq
[08:21] <Seveas> Alek, 'the unable to connect' means that either mysql-server is not installed or that the server isn't running...
[08:21] <Alek> seveas, ok
[08:21] <ompaul> Seveas, using that system,admin,printing menu option, would users benefit from the following options (A) configure printing (B) being able to try to print test page (C) use last know good value settings for printer {in case something had fallen over} (D) if for the users printer their machine used the USB system be in a position to kill it off and restart it?
[08:21] <Alek> seveas, shall i try to reinstall?
[08:22] <ompaul> s/know/known
[08:22] <Am1t^Z> yo
[08:22] <Seveas> Alek, try to start it ...
[08:22] <Am1t^Z> where would i find wine after i installed it?
[08:22] <Seveas> invoke-rc.d mysql start
[08:22] <Seveas> Am1t^Z, dpkg -L wine
[08:22] <Alek> ok
[08:22] <AndrWs> hi , i have a problem with my sound.. I have found a suggestion of how to fix it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#howtoad but i can`t understand  where i shall put this command or whatever it is . The command " To do this, edit /etc/esound/esd.conf" and change the line that begins with spawn_options to begin with default_options. Finally, change the -as 5 to -as 2.
[08:22] <AndrWs>  Where shall i write the edit /etc/esound/esd.conf ?
[08:22] <Panzerboy> hello everybody
[08:23] <gm78> Is there anyone here using Ubuntu AMD64?
[08:23] <Am1t^Z> wtf
[08:23] <Seveas> AndrWs, in the terminal you type: sudo gedit /etc/esound/esd.conf
[08:23] <Am1t^Z> seveas it just loaded a whole bunch of crap
[08:23] <Am1t^Z> then went back to cmd promt
[08:23] <Alek> seveas, got an error there too...
[08:23] <SliderMan> seveas, thanks working!
[08:23] <mjr> gm78, yes
[08:23] <Seveas> Am1t^Z, well, you asked for where it was installed
[08:23] <Am1t^Z> how do i use an .exe app with it?
[08:23] <Seveas> Am1t^Z, and it's installed on the paths shown...
[08:24] <Seveas> Am1t^Z, wine filename.exex
[08:24] <SliderMan> seveas, can you tell me how to cheke if my grafics card installed?
[08:24] <Seveas> SliderMan, glxinfo | grep -i rendering
[08:25] <Am1t^Z> seveas , its says it cant ifnd the program, its on the desktop right now, where do i put it to load?
[08:25] <Alek> invoke-rc.d mysql start = command not found
[08:25] <gm78> mjr, im not sure if u noticed my question above. Does apt currently support multi-arch libraries being installed on the same computer. (For instance, installing both gtk2-i386 and gtk2-amd64 on the same computer)? Or do you have to set up a chroot 32 bit environment?
[08:25] <Seveas> Am1t^Z, wine ~/Desktop/filename.exe
[08:25] <mjr> gm78, no, you'd have to go chroot
[08:25] <mjr> (That's what I do, with dchroot it's not too bad)
[08:25] <Nikopol>  /etc/init.d/mysql start
[08:26] <Seveas> Alek, try with sudo invoke-rc.d mysql start
[08:26] <SliderMan> seveas, pci devices?
[08:26] <Alek> seveas, ah
[08:26] <lynx> Seveas, i've installed xorg-driver-fglrx package with apt-get, it wasn't suposed to work?
[08:26] <lynx> my ati radeon
[08:26] <Seveas> lynx, unfortunately you need to do even more
[08:26] <Seveas> lynx: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:26] <lynx> can u help me?
[08:27] <lynx> okay
[08:27] <Am1t^Z> wtf
[08:27] <Nikopol> Alek: does sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start do anything for you?
[08:27] <Am1t^Z> it says error inomprt modulke Mfc42.dll is needed
[08:27] <Am1t^Z> and 2 more likke that
[08:28] <Seveas> Am1t^Z, then you're out of luck...
[08:28] <xliu> is wine a commercial software?
[08:28] <Seveas> xliu, no
[08:28] <Am1t^Z> cant i get those dlls?
[08:28] <Alek> seveas, invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/mysql not found.
[08:28] <Seveas> Alek, then you did NOT install mysql-server....
[08:28] <mjr> xliu, no, but there are commercial derivatives (crossover office, cedega)
[08:28] <SliderMan> :-
[08:28] <SliderMan> :-
[08:28] <mjr> xliu, wine itself is free as in speech and beer
[08:28] <xliu> ok, thanks mjr
[08:28] <Alek> Nikopol, command not fount
[08:29] <abeliko> hi
[08:29] <fivre> beer is free?
[08:29] <Alek> nikopol, found*
[08:29] <abeliko> how i can delete modules??
[08:29] <mjr> fivre, yep, just ask your neighbourhood bar
[08:29] <ompaul> fivre, yes, get one receipe and run make on it
[08:29] <Seveas> Alek, sudo aptitude install mysql-server, it is NOT installed yet if the initscript is missing...
[08:30] <abeliko> hi
[08:30] <elio_> ubuntu-it
[08:30] <abeliko> anyone knows how to remove installed modules?
[08:30] <Alek> seveas, tanks
[08:30] <rade> ok, i have another missing file, hub.h, does anyone have any ideas?
[08:31] <|Kabuto|> abeliko: rmmod modulename
[08:31] <Alek> seveas, but i installed it in syntapic for a time ago...
[08:31] <elio_> #ubuntu-it
[08:31] <fivre> Is there a way to make BitchX not autologon with my linux usrname?
[08:31] <ompaul> elio_,  /join #ubuntu-it :)
[08:32] <BoD_SWAT> Does anyone have 'usefull' programs to 'pimp' my desktop?
[08:32] <|Kabuto|> guys, nvidia-kernel-source requires that I have kernel 2.6.10 kernel-source but repositories have 2.4.27 only. any ideas how I apt-get it?
[08:33] <Toba> is there a "master list" of all the programs that are installed on ubuntu?
[08:33] <ompaul> BoD_SWAT, what do you like to do? audio surf mail or something else?
[08:33] <Toba> BoD_SWAT, 'pimp' and 'useful' do not belong in the same sentence
[08:33] <ogge> is there any command to view data transferred via networkcard, some kind of "networkinfo" in ubuntu hoary.
[08:33] <Alek> BYE
[08:34] <BoD_SWAT> ogge, ifconfig
[08:34] <Seveas> BoD_SWAT, gdesklets?
[08:34] <topyli> ogge iptraf is nice
[08:34] <BoD_SWAT> |Kabuto|, Just add the right depository
[08:34] <ogge> iptraf doesnt work.
[08:35] <topyli> really? hmm
[08:35] <BoD_SWAT> Okay, let me refraise that sentence. I want my desktop to look real spiffy. Like Samurize (win32), maybe and integrated terminal on the background etc. ?
[08:35] <ogge> yup. strange. ifconfig does work.
[08:35] <|Kabuto|> BoD_SWAT: how do I know what the 'right depository' is?
[08:35] <fivre> hmm
[08:35] <|Kabuto|> ogge: /sbin/ifconfig
[08:35] <topyli> |Kabuto|: linux-source-2.6.10 is there
[08:36] <ompaul> ogge, I use a little applet called 'network monitor'
[08:36] <fivre> removing the Evolution Suite says it will remove "ubuntu desktop"
[08:36] <fivre> is ubuntu desktop important?
[08:36] <ompaul> fivre, well it is your desktop
[08:36] <ogge> ok thanx guys.
[08:36] <topyli> fivre: not really
[08:36] <BoD_SWAT> |Kabuto|, have a look here http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[08:37] <BoD_SWAT> |Kabuto|, and check if you have the newest kernel (uname -a)
[08:37] <topyli> BoD_SWAT: linux-source-2.6.10 must be in main. what's with the repositories?
[08:38] <AndrWs> is it possible to install and play warcraft 3 in linux?
[08:38] <resiak> Google for Cedega
[08:39] <BoD_SWAT> topyli, I guess if he 'only' has the 2.4.27 repos, that he doesn't have the right ones. Prove me wrong?
[08:39] <topyli> BoD_SWAT: surely he's got main
[08:39] <fivre> is anyone else having trouble connecting to the forums?
[08:40] <|Kabuto|> guys, all this time I've been doing kernel-source
[08:40] <hondje> if this kernel upgrade only affects amd64, why am I being bothered to upgrade my kernel on x86?
[08:40] <|Kabuto|> shame on me
[08:40] <SpecialBuddy> what plugin do I need in order to play wmv on firefox?
[08:40] <topyli> |Kabuto|: debian style :)
[08:40] <|Kabuto|> topyli: ?
[08:40] <AndrWs> is it a command to see your hardware ..and drivers installed?
[08:41] <|Kabuto|> AndrWs: lspci lsusb lsmod
[08:41] <topyli> |Kabuto|: that's how debian names the source. ubuntu uses linux-source
[08:41] <|Kabuto|> or hwinfo
[08:41] <murphy> ok, question, How do I know if Ubuntu is using my Nvidia Geforce4 mx440?
[08:41] <|Kabuto|> topyli: oh, I didn't know that
[08:41] <unome> are the forums down?
[08:41] <|Kabuto|> but why do ubuntu deps have it?
[08:41] <thenuke> murphy: well, if you can see something else than black screen?
[08:42] <murphy> ok thanks
[08:42] <jmjones> unome: i can't get to them, either....
[08:42] <ompaul> unome,  UbuntuForums is 37.56% closer to reaching its goal of prepaying for our servers/bandwidth.
[08:43] <topyli> |Kabuto|: probably so that people don't install debian kernels from universe by mistake :)
[08:43] <ompaul> unome, some upstream is not doing the right thing for you
[08:44] <unome> ompaul: the forums help me learn tons of stuff everyday, and I'll be glad to donate to support the community.
[08:44] <goodi> is the experimental ntfs write kernel driver compiled as module with 5.4?
[08:46] <brade> hello all
[08:46] <IceDC571> wow.. a new kernel is out in the repos, but the version number is the same... only different revision
[08:46] <unome> ompaul: the Ubntu thong is nice too ;-)
[08:47] <brade> yeah i updated this morning and noticed that.
[08:47] <gm78> mjr, sorry left the room for a few minutes....is the chroot hard to set up??? Or does it come already set up for things like OpenOffice?
[08:47] <IceDC571> but if i update, wont my ati drivers screw up and i would have to reconfigure them again?
[08:47] <ompaul> unome, there are some things that no one should ever see and a 19stone man in a thong is one of them (unless shudder)
[08:48] <unome> lol
[08:48] <goodi> is there a buildin cdburn software with the ubuntu std installation?
[08:48] <Tomcat_> goodi: Yes.
[08:48] <IceDC571> goodi: nautilus
[08:48] <dr_willis> yes goodi
[08:48] <goodi> thanks
[08:48] <Tomcat_> goodi: There is a "CD Creator" Thing in Nautilus.
[08:48] <goodi> (no ubuntu here, but a friend got a problem with it) i love this kind of helping
[08:48] <Tomcat_> And you can right-click ISO files.
[08:48] <goodi> it's oki:)
[08:48] <brade> is there any p2p software in the repos that anyone can recommend?
[08:49] <lynx> anyone here uses breezy?
[08:49] <Tomcat_> brade: aMule
[08:49] <dr_willis> brade,  theres a p2p wiki section that details most all of them
[08:49] <gm78> brade : gtk-gnutella, or if u dont mind installing software manually you could install limewire
[08:49] <Tomcat_> brade: Is almost as good as eMule, but lacks the serverless network Kademlia.
[08:49] <SliderMan> how do i run sh file?
[08:50] <metzen> sh file.sh
[08:50] <AndrWs> hmm firefox cant  connect to any pages know.. and I`m almost 100 % sure that im connected to the internet
[08:50] <metzen> or just ./file.sh
[08:50] <goodi> what was the name of the experimental ntfs (write) module? anyone knows that?
[08:50] <gm78> AndrWs, trying pinging google
[08:50] <gm78> AndrWs, *try pinging google i mean
[08:50] <Toba> AndrWs, that should not be an almost
[08:50] <Toba> you're obviously online as you are talking to us
[08:50] <andersbr> AndrWs:  Sounds like a DNS problem.
[08:50] <abeliko> hi
[08:51] <Toba> whether or not dns is up, that's a differnet matter
[08:51] <abeliko> how can i remove a directori from console??
[08:51] <brade> thanks.  this linux thing is so much fun...oh yeah, reason i ask is that the dvd drive in the computer is super old and very slow.  i tried ripping a cd yesterday and it took nearly 40 minutes so i would much rather download my cd's :)
[08:51] <metzen> abeliko: rm -R directoryName
[08:52] <AndrWs> how do i ping google ...sry im a real newbi in ubuintu and linux...ping www.google.com ?
[08:52] <steved> AndrWs: yep that will do it
[08:52] <_simple> type ping
[08:52] <_simple> and ping alone
[08:53] <s_ander> ls
[08:53] <s_ander> damn
[08:53] <s_ander> sorry :)
[08:53] <Davey|Work> Whats the command to reconfigure xorg interactively?
[08:53] <cast> quick question - i take it aptitude is perferable over apt-get in ubuntu to?
[08:54] <dr_willis> aptitude is just a front end to apt-get  isent it?
[08:55] <AndrWs> well i think i get connection  64 packets transmitted, 64 received, 0% packet loss, time 63062ms
[08:55] <cast> well, no, not just a. it provides a few features apt-get doesnt that are significant
[08:55] <ubuntu_demon> hi
[08:55] <dr_willis> how does it compare to synaptic then?
[08:55] <cast> i dont know, is synaptic a drop in replacement for apt-get?
[08:56] <dr_willis> synaptic is the X front end. :P
[08:56] <ompaul> dr_willis, it is a terminal based app as opposed to a gui
[08:56] <cast> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/04/msg11344.html [Nine reasons why you should be using aptitude instead of apt-get or dselect.]
[08:56] <cast> then ill take that as a i no
[08:56] <justin> synaptic doesn't do the nicer dependency tracking and logging that aptitude does
[08:56] <AndrWs> hmm know it works
[08:57] <cast> different question now, is aptitude in the default install?
[08:57] <dr_willis> Hmm.. makes one wonder  why synaptic and aptitude dont do the exact same tracking.
[08:57] <IceDC571> cast: yes
[08:58] <lynx> i prefer synaptic
[08:58] <zenlunatic> so gnome has built in bittorrent?
[08:58] <nalioth> zenlunatic: if you call it that
[08:59] <nalioth> zenlunatic: i prefer to use btdownloadcurses.py from a "gnu screen" session
[08:59] <cast> well, synaptic and aptitude and 2 fairly different things
[08:59] <cast> least in my mind. wouldnt dream of using synaptic on my server
[08:59] <cast> and=are :\
[08:59] <cast> its 430am and i just woke up
[09:00] <IceDC571> talk about timezone difference
[09:00] <IceDC571> is everyone using am and pm now?
[09:00] <IceDC571> i thought most other people are using 24 hour time
[09:00] <nalioth> IceDC571: i prefer military time (don't know how its called outside the US)
[09:00] <cast> what do you mean? in everyday life we use am/pm
[09:01] <nalioth> cast: using 24 hour time, one o'clock in the afternoon is 1300 hours
[09:01] <metzen> abeliko: rm -R directoryName
[09:02] <cast> is 24 hour time always 4 digits?
[09:02] <IceDC571> no
[09:02] <IceDC571> well
[09:02] <dr_willis> 00:00
[09:02] <SliderMan> ML Parsing Error: syntax error
[09:02] <SliderMan> Location: jar:resource:///chrome/toolkit.jar!/content/global/config.xul
[09:02] <SliderMan> Line Number 1, Column 1:Mode != FIND_NORMAL) closeFindBar(); }, gQuickFindTimeoutLength);
[09:02] <SliderMan> ^ WTF?
[09:02] <IceDC571> yes if you want to view the minutes
[09:03] <IceDC571> SliderMan: please paste in an appropriate place
[09:03] <lynx> here its 16:03
[09:03] <SliderMan> what?
[09:03] <SliderMan> to paste where?
[09:03] <IceDC571> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:04] <apollo2011> How do you execute a .sh file?
[09:04] <lynx> hm
[09:04] <IceDC571> apollo2011: sh filename.sh
[09:04] <pipatron> Hm, I want to use my ubuntu machine to compile and make a kernel for a debian sarge machine.. Can I just take the debian kernel source package and then proceed as usual?
[09:04] <Davey|Work> anyone have an S3 (Unichrome?) onboard video card working in Ubuntu?
[09:05] <gorm> hi ! i would like esd not to start when i boot, because i have to kill it manually each time, to have the sound working
[09:05] <Heimdall> hellooo rooom
[09:05] <lynx> hi
[09:05] <gorm> what should i modify ?
[09:05] <MorphDK> Hey.. Anybody got NetworkManager to work in Ubuntu?
[09:05] <pipatron> gorm: If I recall correctly there is a chapter about that on www.ubuntuguide.com
[09:05] <pipatron> gorm: or .org or .net or whatever :)
[09:06] <IceDC571> pipatron is correct, theres a howto on getting your sound to work right
[09:06] <IceDC571> and it has information on killing esd too
[09:06] <biffurt> quick question: how do I determine what version of XFree86 is on here? I'm running Hoary, if that tells you anything.
[09:06] <SliderMan> IceDC571, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/261
[09:06] <Spug> why don't people know military time? it's like, used in every country but usa or something
[09:06] <murphy> ok, how do I stop X?
[09:06] <IceDC571> Spug: thats what i thought
[09:07] <murphy> I mean, exit the X server?
[09:07] <gorm> ok i'll check it ! thanks !
[09:07] <nalioth> Spug: i'm in Texas and i use military time
[09:07] <jgoguen> Spug: more like north america, hardly anyone in Canada has a clue what it is -_-
[09:07] <jgoguen> murphy: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:08] <doonz> huh
[09:08] <IceDC571> SliderMan: do you have java installed?
[09:08] <|Kabuto|> how do I tell nvidia-kernel-source make where my kernel source is? the README doesn't say anything useful
[09:08] <murphy> thanks
[09:08] <doonz> jgoguen speak for yourself
[09:08] <rade> helpers: ok, i finally got my Atmel chipset based usb wlan adapter working, thanks to http://at76c503a.berlios.de/  ... i just wanted to let you know in case you ever need to help anyone out in the future with a similar problem... bob2 and Seveas, thank you very much, bye
[09:08] <som1> for some reason, when i insert the cd to its place (yeah, in the drive) and it doesnt try to install. i know its a bios problem (crashfree 2.0) but i wondered if any of you know a solution to it (other than updating bios)
[09:08] <Spug> nalioth: okay, then even fewer use am/pm
[09:08] <Heimdall> what's not correct in : if [$i == 0.2]
[09:08] <jgoguen> doonz: I use military time personally, it's easier for me to understand
[09:09] <ompaul> Spug, well how about is it now 20:08 according to ntp
[09:09] <biffurt> anyone? how can I find out what version of X is running?
[09:09] <MorphDK> Spug, military time - do you mean committee?
[09:09] <Spug> i mean 24-hour format
[09:09] <jgoguen> biffurt: X -version
[09:09] <pipatron> 8PM -> 20:00
[09:09] <SliderMan> IceDC571, no i havent java
[09:09] <biffurt> thanks
[09:09] <MorphDK> :S
[09:09] <jgoguen> np
[09:10] <IceDC571> SliderMan: try to install java, it might fix the problem
[09:10] <|Kabuto|> guys, how do I tell nvidia-kernel-source make where my kernel source is? the README doesn't say anything useful
[09:10] <MorphDK> Spug, heh, in Denmark we use 24h time all the time :D
[09:10] <som1> |kabuto| use the ubuntu packages
[09:10] <Spug> MorphDK: in norway too ;)
[09:10] <pipatron> That's just not true :P
[09:10] <^rob^> Any suggestions on a web frontend for gstreamer which will let me search my media, downsample it on the fly, and serve it out so I can listen to stuff thats at encode rates that are too high to squeeze across my cable connection?
[09:10] <Rockett17> for most times in UK too :)
[09:10] <som1> whats military about 24h?
[09:10] <Spug> it's used in the us military
[09:10] <|Kabuto|> som1: I apt-get'd the nvidia-kernel-source
[09:10] <SliderMan> :)
[09:10] <c_rodge> how can i watch dvds in ubuntu 4.10
[09:10] <|Kabuto|> it's not tarball
[09:11] <som1> |kabuto| get the nvidia-gkx too
[09:11] <som1> glx*
[09:11] <c_rodge> dvds in ubuntu 4.10
[09:11] <ompaul> som1, military time is really 0100 for 1:00 as we humans call it
[09:11] <SliderMan> IceDC571, rpm or linux?
[09:11] <Rockett17> it's a north american thing (im british and in canada) and had never heard 24hr time referred to as military.. i didnt even know what someone was talking about when they first said it to me
[09:11] <nalioth> som1: it keeps dumb soldiers from showing up to dinner at 5 in the morning
[09:11] <c_rodge> how can i watch dvds in ubuntu 4.10
[09:11] <|Kabuto|> som1: is that a tool to automate things?
[09:11] <pipatron> c_rodge: Eh
[09:11] <pipatron> c_rodge: Stop repeating
[09:11] <som1> |kabuto| well, you still have to edit the X config and modules
[09:11] <pipatron> c_rodge: No one will help you if you annoy them.
[09:11] <ompaul> som1, and 2000 is 20:00 for military
[09:11] <c_rodge> well i wouldnt repeat if someone could helpo me
[09:12] <|Kabuto|> som1: I edited the xorg.conf
[09:12] <som1> oh, so thats why they say our sports teacher is thinks shes still in the army.
[09:12] <jgoguen> c_rodge: do you have libdvdcss installed
[09:12] <IceDC571> SliderMan: sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[09:12] <som1> |kabuto| sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[09:12] <zenlunatic> whats a name of the gnome bittorrent client built in?
[09:12] <c_rodge> im pretty sure i do
[09:12] <nalioth> c_rodge: if anyone knows the answer to your ??, they will speak up
[09:12] <som1> |kabuto| and edit /etc/modules
[09:12] <pipatron> c_rodge: So? If no one can help you the first time no one will help you the second time
[09:12] <som1> |kabuto| its on the nvidia readme too
[09:12] <nalioth> c_rodge: if not, give your question a few minutes 'tween askings
[09:12] <MorphDK> c_rodge, http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#dvdplayback
[09:12] <nalioth> zenlunatic: gnome-bittorrent
[09:12] <som1> for some reason, when i insert the cd to its place (yeah, in the drive) it doesnt try to install. i know its a bios problem (crashfree 2.0) but i wondered if any of you know a solution to it (other than updating bios)
[09:12] <jgoguen> c_rodge: what's your media player, Totem and MPlayer should work fine then
[09:13] <Sodki> hello! anyone from london wants to give me some vacation advice?
[09:13] <c_rodge> its totem
[09:13] <ompaul> Sodki, go to Dublin :)
[09:13] <c_rodge> yeah i have installed that
[09:13] <SliderMan> IceDC571, E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[09:14] <ompaul> Sodki, get a lonely planet guide book and you will get a feel for the place
[09:14] <nalioths_dog> SliderMan: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]
[09:15] <jgoguen> c_rodge: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 mplayer-686
[09:15] <Sodki> ompaul, thanks :-)
[09:15] <zenlunatic> are ubuntu package details available on the net somewhere?
[09:15] <nalioth> zenlunatic: packages.ubuntu.com
[09:15] <ompaul> Sodki, without knowing lots about you I can say that one thing you should to there is catch at least one show in the west end and spend a day hanging around Covent garden some very good street entertainment
[09:15] <jgoguen> c_rodge: once that's done, make sure /dev/dvd exists, symlink to your DVD device if needed, then say mplayer dvd://
[09:16] <biffurt> ok, is there a difference between X and XFree86? I'm trying to find out which driver I need for my S3 savage card
[09:16] <c_rodge> ok
[09:16] <biffurt> And I found a driver for XFree86
[09:16] <jgoguen> c_rodge: if that doesn't work /msg me with the errors and I'll make an attempt from there
[09:17] <biffurt> But I need to know which driver to get - there's different versions for 4.4, 4.3, and 4.2
[09:17] <BoD_SWAT> I need to add a program to my startup programs. Where can I do this?
[09:17] <biffurt> But X -version tells me it's version 6.8.2
[09:17] <Alek> Hi, I have configurated the boot file..., and now is Windows XP not there any more....:(
[09:18] <ompaul> BoD_SWAT,  if they do not add automagically you should consider an application that you can get from sourceforge called smeg
[09:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how to install 3Dwm?
[09:18] <jo> how to instal v4l1 ???????????
[09:18] <jo> in stad of v4l2
[09:19] <BoD_SWAT> ompaul, I'm adding Eterm to have a spiffy desktop. In the howto it says: "Also, you need to add Eterm to your startup programs. It could look something like this:". Is there a config file somewhere?
[09:19] <lsuactiafner> i rock.. my desktop looks cooler than ice ice ice!!
[09:19] <jo> andt wy i doint get xawtv on urbuntu?
[09:19] <lsuactiafner> i have the_white_stripes_-_i_just_dont_know_what_to_do_with_myself.mpeg playin as my desktop 'background' / animated background
[09:20] <BoD_SWAT> lsuactiafner, where can I find the howto?
[09:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> does anyone know how to install the new 3d desktop?
[09:21] <biffurt> is there a difference between X and XFree86? I'm trying to find out which driver I need for my S3 savage card. I've got a driver for XFree86 4.4, 4.3, or 4.2. But X -version tells me I'm running version 6.8.2
 VLC?
[09:21] <biffurt> can anyone give me a hand? I'm clueless with this OS. =/
[09:21] <Alek> Any one who can help me with boot file???
[09:22] <BoD_SWAT> ompaul, It needs to be launched on start or something. Have a look-see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36811&highlight=devilspie
[09:22] <Panzerboy> any idea, are there any issues with the mirrormax repos?
[09:22] <Panzerboy> i just added them to the sources.list
[09:22] <BoD_SWAT> Panzerboy, no issues here
[09:23] <unome> Panzerboy: works fine here. what error you get?
[09:23] <Panzerboy> and now the apt-get update is stalled at Ign http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/restricted Packages
[09:23] <Panzerboy> 99% [Waiting for headers]
[09:23] <Panzerboy> just stalled
[09:23] <|Kabuto|> I downloaded nvidia-glx too. now what?
[09:23] <Panzerboy> stays there
[09:23] <lsuactiafner> BoD_SWAT : no howto, but just run the command nice -n 20 mplayer movie.avi -fs -rootwin -loop 0 -nosound -hardframedrop -lavdopts lowres=1 -vfm ffmpeg <-- command is such that it uses about 1% of my AMD64 3200+ cpu
[09:23] <Panzerboy> and nowthing happens
[09:23] <BoD_SWAT> Alek, what is exactly your program? DId you config your menu.lst correctly?
[09:23] <Alek> BoS_SWAT, it is grub..., i configurated the file: moved xp to the top
[09:24] <Alek> bod_swat, but now is xp gone :(
[09:24] <|Kabuto|> guys, I downloaded nvidia-glx too. now what?
[09:24] <Panzerboy> any idea what can be wrong?
[09:24] <unome> !backports
[09:24] <ubotu> backports is probably http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[09:24] <Rockett17> did someone say XP in a Ubuntu channel... the devilsOS!!! :p only kidding :p
[09:24] <unome> Panzerboy: find another repo
[09:25] <|Kabuto|> M$
[09:25] <Panzerboy> hmm
[09:25] <BoD_SWAT> Alek, gone from the menu you mean? Then you configured something wrong. With me XP is always the second choice, and Ubuntu is the first
[09:25] <BockBilbo> Seveas, u still there?
[09:26] <ompaul> Alek, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ put your /boot/grub/menu.lst in that pastebin
[09:26] <BockBilbo> i have done what u said in win.. and i still cannot write on the hd
[09:26] <BockBilbo> :(
[09:26] <BoD_SWAT> Alek, did you use title, rootnoverify, makeactive and chainloader +1 ?
[09:27] <BoD_SWAT> what's the problem with XP being the 2nd or 3rd choice? ;-)
[09:28] <Alek> bot_swat, I moved the xp thing to the top of file..., it was the 4.choice or somethimg
[09:28] <hugos> Hi! I have Firefox 1.02 installed and I want to upgrade it! How can I do that without installing from the source. It's not on the repositories.. at least I cant find it.
[09:28] <Alek> bot_swar, nothing.., but will has it first so i can turn on pc withous sitting here
[09:29] <i3dmaster> my screen is stuck at 640x480 after I removed libesd0 and installed libesd-alsa0... Anyone knows how to fix it.
[09:29] <jgoguen> hugos: it's in the backports repos, you need to get them first
[09:29] <BoD_SWAT> Alek, XP is 2nd choice at my place, so I can't help you there (works fine here)
[09:29] <|Kabuto|> guys, I'm trying to install nvidia module. I apt-get'd nvidia-kernel-source and nvidia-glx too. now what?
[09:29] <Alek> ompaul, here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/263
[09:30] <justin> |Kabuto|: remove nvidia-kernel-source and install the linux-restricted-modules package for your kernel
[09:30] <Alek> ompaul, it is the file now..., xp is missing
[09:30] <hugos> jgoguen, how can I find the backports? :D
[09:31] <fivre> How do I set GnomeTerminal to load x profile always with a certain window dimension and placement
[09:31] <fivre> ?
[09:31] <BoD_SWAT> Alek, just add Windows XP manually!
[09:31] <Spug> I second fivre's question
[09:31] <nalioth> hugos: only use backports for the specific program you want, then disable them (this prevents future system incompatibliitys)
[09:32] <nalioth> !backports
[09:32] <ubotu> I heard backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[09:32] <Alek> bod_swat, ok but how....?
[09:32] <bluet> Hi all
[09:32] <BoD_SWAT> use gedit?
[09:32] <BoD_SWAT> or vim
[09:33] <Alek> bod_swat, and how can i get it to be there....?
[09:33] <turid> Just installed Ubuntu. How to play MP3?
[09:33] <bluet> My WLAN adapter (an Int
[09:34] <jgoguen> turid: http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:34] <bluet> ...el one) doesn'y fucktion
[09:34] <nalioths_dog> turid: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[09:34] <|Kabuto|> turid: sudo apt-get install gstreamer-0.8-mad
[09:34] <nalioths_dog> jgoguen, please don't recommend ubuntuguide
[09:34] <|Kabuto|> brb
[09:34] <BoD_SWAT> Alek, use your fingers on your keyboard and type the stuff. I'll give you my example.   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/265
[09:35] <BoD_SWAT> Alek, you just need to know what hd and partition is on (the "hd0,0" part of the code)
[09:35] <nalioth> jgoguen: please read number 3 >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[09:35] <topyli> fivre: in edit -> profiles you can choose the default profile
[09:35] <bluet> My WLAN adapter doesn't work
[09:35] <Spug> topyli: but how can you set window placement and dimension in a gnome-terminal profile?
[09:35] <jpaixao> hello
[09:36] <jpaixao> I need some help
[09:36] <Alek> bod_swat, will it be there after? last time did it go away...
[09:36] <topyli> Spug: you don't. you specify the X geometry on the command line
[09:36] <Spug> aha
[09:36] <BoD_SWAT> did you get an kernel update? Just make a menu.lst.backup file or something
[09:36] <jpaixao> i looked in the foruns but i didn-t  found an answer to my problem
[09:36] <fivre> how do you do that, and can it be done automatically?
[09:37] <jpaixao> sometimes,my mouse becomes slow and not very precise
[09:37] <bluet> Okey, GRUB doesn't install _and_ WLAN doesn't work
[09:37] <nalioth> Spug: set the dimensions in your .bashrc
[09:37] <Spug> nalioth: okay, thanks a lot
[09:37] <jpaixao> i'm not the only one with this problem, but no one seems to be able to solve it
[09:38] <jpaixao> i'd apreciated if some one could help me
[09:38] <fivre> where is .bashrc?
[09:38] <jpaixao> tks anyway ;)
[09:38] <nalioth> fivre: in your home directory
[09:38] <nalioth> fivre: it is an 'invisible' file (it has a dot in front of it)
[09:38] <Kyral> jpaixao: Wireless Mouse? Optical Mouse?
[09:39] <jpaixao> wired mouse
[09:39] <jpaixao> optical
[09:39] <jpaixao> i have a laptop and my tochpad mouse works perfectly, even when the wired mouse flips!!
[09:40] <bluet> I have a laptop too, but my problem is that the WLAN adapter doesn't work
[09:40] <Kyral> jpaixao: Try cleaning it?
[09:41] <jpaixao> it's clean
[09:41] <i3dmaster> can anyone help me figure out why my screen is stuck at 640x480? out of mind already...
[09:41] <jpaixao> i use it in another OS and it has no problem
[09:41] <Rockett17> is there any widgets for superkaramba to display a terminal on the desktop?
[09:42] <sascha_> hi, what is the best way to install kmuddy? I can use source, mandrake or Suse rpm. no deb files
[09:42] <lsuactiafner> !resolution
[09:42] <ubotu> it has been said that resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:42] <jpaixao> if i more processes i have running, the slower the mouse gets
[09:42] <lsuactiafner> i3dmaster : <ubotu> it has been said that resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:42] <socomm> sascha_: You can try installing the rpm version via alien.
[09:42] <bluet> !wlan
[09:42] <ubotu> bluet: Wish i knew
[09:42] <bluet> !wifi
[09:42] <ubotu> methinks wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[09:43] <socomm> !alien
[09:43] <kimo> is there a libcompat pkg with old libstdc stuff
[09:43] <ubotu> Wish i knew, socomm
[09:43] <BockBilbo> anyone has an idea of why ubuntu says i dont have space in a external 40GB HD with vfat format, when i really have like 6 Gigas free?
[09:43] <BockBilbo> :S
[09:43] <sascha_> socomm, mandrake or SuSE?
[09:43] <i3dmaster> lsuactiaf: ok I will try to look at it first.
[09:43] <oo> I am having some annoying problems with getting mplayer-586 from nerim.net installed.. backports.ubuntuforums.org won't talk to me either. Any hints?
[09:43] <socomm> sascha_: Either one should be fine, provided you got all the right libs in place.
[09:43] <andre__> do i have to pay for cedega?
[09:43] <oo> It wants another libc6 and some other stuff
[09:43] <sascha_> socomm, thanks...
[09:43] <family> what is a good lightweight file browser that is user friendly for xfce?
[09:43] <lsuactiafner> BockBilbo : mount as vfat32 not just vfat
[09:43] <socomm> ubotu: alien is http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[09:44] <ubotu> socomm: okay
[09:44] <BockBilbo> lsuactiafner, but, until know its been ok using vfat
[09:44] <kimo> family rox
[09:44] <nalioth> oo: remove nerim.net and backports from your sources list
[09:44] <Rockett17> family> i would suggest rox
[09:44] <BockBilbo> perhaps i think that vfat32 doesnt exist
[09:45] <Rockett17> family> it's a bit weird to get used to, but it rocks
[09:45] <socomm> family is gone.
[09:45] <lsuactiafner> checkin quick brb
[09:45] <odie5533> Rockett17 I was family
[09:45] <SleepyEye> Newbie here...whats the difference between "hoary" and "breezy"?  Is it breezy = unstable or testing?
[09:45] <odie5533> this is a family pc ;)
[09:45] <hugos> nalioth, Failed to fetch http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Could not connect to backports.ubuntuforums.org:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[09:45] <odie5533> I need a file browser that is user friendly
[09:45] <BockBilbo> perhaps i think that vfat32 doesnt exist
[09:45] <odie5533> highly
[09:45] <nalioth> SleepyEye: correct, breezy is quite a challengs atm
[09:45] <lsuactiafner> breezy got gass..
[09:45] <cyphase_> what's the best server managing utility, if there is such a thing
[09:45] <cyphase_> :)
[09:45] <BockBilbo> sorry for the double message :S
[09:45] <socomm> Breezy is the development version, not recommended for day to day use.
[09:45] <nalioth> hugos: do not use backports
[09:46] <nalioth> hugos: do not use ubuntuguide
[09:46] <hugos> nalioth, I need to get firefox 1.04
[09:46] <nalioths_dog> hugos: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[09:46] <resiak> hugos: Why?
[09:46] <oo> nalioth, ok  - cool. I am just so used to using nerim.net. But w32codecs ?
[09:46] <socomm> Hoary is the current "stable" incarnation of Ubuntu, alot more suited for end users than breezy.
[09:46] <nalioth> hugos: get it from mozilla.org
[09:46] <lsuactiafner> seems there is only 1 vfat module
[09:46] <nalioth> oo: www.mplayerhq.hu  and download the 'essential package'
[09:47] <lsuactiafner> no idea then..
[09:47] <hugos> nalioth, but why do advice me not to use backports for firefox upgrade?
[09:47] <nalioth> oo: there are instructions there on where to put them
[09:47] <resiak> hugos: Why do you _need_ 1.0.4?
[09:47] <socomm> !rox
[09:47] <ubotu> socomm: I don't know
[09:47] <lsuactiafner> i prefer all- since its only a few mb bigger and you might need it
[09:47] <nalioth> hugos: the firefox available to you now, has the security updates from 1.0.4 in it
[09:47] <hugos> resiak, I want to install some extensions
[09:47] <catch> hi all, I'm trying to install user-mode-linux, it's a virtual package, however a web search of the archive has the .deb file in the universe (I have universe in my sources.list) does any one know why it's virtual not real? (I'm running hoary)
[09:47] <nalioth> hugos: are you having trouble accessing the firefox widget page?
[09:47] <Rockett17>  /usr/lib/win32 is usually where the w32codecs go
[09:47] <resiak> hugos: You can trick them.
[09:47] <lsuactiafner> becuase 1.0.4 allows for new plugins without changing the version in about:config
[09:47] <oo> nalioth, yeah - but as long as my Linux system actually _has_ a package manager i'd rather like to use it...
[09:47] <oo> :)
[09:47] <pinko> I swear, every time I come in here someone is asking about firefox 1.0.4
[09:48] <oo> nalioth, but thanks a lot! :)
[09:48] <goldfish> pinko: indeed
[09:48] <nalioth> oo using unofficial repos WILL lead to system breakage
[09:48] <nalioth> oo: we see it all the time in ehre
[09:48] <hugos> resiak, how?
[09:48] <pinko> If I ever need that knowledge I will be more than ready.
[09:48] <socomm> ubotu: rox is http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/
[09:48] <ubotu> okay, socomm
[09:48] <resiak> hugos: Google it.
[09:48] <hugos> nalioth, yes
[09:48] <resiak> Who owns ubotu?
[09:48] <nalioth> hugos: open your firefox, place "about:config" in the address bar
[09:49] <hugos> resiak, thanks, but I already changed the version string and it doesnt work
[09:49] <nalioth> hugos: search the resulting page for "vendorsub". on the same line, change 1.0.2 to 1.0.4
[09:49] <oo> nalioth, Debian Sid also leads to breakage, but you are of course correct.
[09:49] <Rockett17> nalioth> hahaha
[09:49] <catch> resiak: mark shuttleworth's company
[09:49] <Rockett17> nice :)
[09:49] <nalioth> oo: i dont know anything about sid or nancy
[09:49] <resiak> catch: That's 100% unhelpful, and you don't even know Canonical's name?
[09:50] <timtux> What is wrong?
[09:50] <catch> resiak : not off the top of my head, but you obviously do ;)
[09:50] <nalioth> resiak: i know who owns ubotu, just cant think of the nick atm
[09:50] <odie5533> how do I check hdd usage in a terminal?
[09:50] <resiak> nalioth: bob2?
[09:50] <catch> now does anyone know about the user-mode-linux issue I'm having?
[09:50] <socomm> odie5533: df -h
[09:50] <nalioth> resiak: lets not play 20 ??s right now, but no
[09:50] <resiak> catch: Hell, I saw everyone's favourite spaceman in the flesh two days ago :)
[09:50] <resiak> nalioth: Heh
[09:50] <Rockett17> aight time to go home
[09:51] <Rockett17> enough work
[09:51] <djm62> !owner
[09:51] <ubotu> djm62: I haven't a clue
[09:51] <lsuactiafner> resiak : jetsons?
[09:51] <lsuactiafner> hehehe
[09:51] <resiak> djm62: I've already prodded it extensively in /msg
[09:51] <resiak> lsuactiafner: Heh
[09:51] <hugos> nalioth, thanks, it worked
[09:52] <lsuactiafner> anyone know of a good website where i can look @ home modded pc cases?
[09:52] <nalioth> np
[09:52] <cyphase_> 12:51:35 up 49 days,  7:26,  3 users,  load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00
[09:52] <lsuactiafner> cyphase_ : running fah@home or seti?
[09:52] <unome> lsuactiafner: hardforum
[09:52] <timtux> What the hell is wrong?
[09:52] <timtux> Configuring apt..
[09:52] <timtux> 25%
[09:52] <timtux> Setting up primary installation repository...
[09:52] <timtux> For an hour now! I have tried to restart the installation, but that dosent help.
[09:52] <timtux> What does that stage do? Do i need internet connection while i do it?
[09:52] <timtux> Ive got an 10/10 connection and using a router (dlink 604)
[09:53] <lsuactiafner> thanks unome
[09:53] <unome> np
[09:53] <i3dmaster> I went the wiki and looked the HowTo, and it did not help for my case.
[09:54] <i3dmaster> my xorg.conf should be no problem cause it did not get changed after I installed the libesd-alsa0. I am thinking something broken when I was off loading the libesd pkg but not sure where...
[09:55] <lsuactiafner> i3dmaster : edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf look for a line called modes, edit it, then press  control alt backspace and dont panic
[09:55] <andersbr> Dumb question:  How do I find out what sort of NIC card I have without opening the box?
[09:55] <Nerull> lol
[09:55] <socomm> ...
[09:55] <unome> andersbr: sudo lshw
[09:56] <goldfish> lspci
[09:56] <rezzcobain> Im having trouble with 3d graphics, I thought I installed the drivers for my video card, but im new to linux, can anyone help me out?
[09:56] <nalioth> andersbr: open a terminal and type "lspci"
[09:56] <timtux> Seems like noone can help me, soon i will take out the fucking cd and broke it off.
[09:56] <goldfish> rezzcobain: what card you got?
[09:56] <rezzcobain> Radeon 9800
[09:56] <Nerull> try lspci  m8
[09:57] <nalioth> timtux: someone can help you if they know/experienced what you are referring to
[09:57] <i3dmaster> Isuactiaf: that was as the same as before, and I tried to edit it to some other values but it wouldn't take any changes.
[09:57] <nalioth> timtux: in nobody here knows, do you want them making something up?
[09:57] <i3dmaster> gnome seems only seeing the 640x480@60
[09:57] <BoD_SWAT> how can I use 'ls' and see the dir per 'page' (when I have a small terminal window?)
[09:57] <Nerull> man ls