[00:00] <LogicFan> Rioting_Pacifist, command not found.  and I checked in gparted and the lvm flag is not set for /
[00:00] <Rioting_Pacifist> DD: install something over that
[00:00] <LogicFan> Rioting_Pacifist, the Vista partition is set with the boot flag though
[00:01] <Rioting_Pacifist> LogicFan: ok well then you need to do all the partition editing from a liveCD, if you boot through grub it doesn't matter.
[00:01] <wilson> #LISP
[00:01] <LogicFan> Rioting_Pacifist, thanks, will i still need to edit the grub menu after formating and merging the partitions?
[00:01] <wilson> #lisp
[00:03] <Rioting_Pacifist> LogicFan: you will need to remove vista so it doesn't show in the menu, but the system will still boot fine if you dont edit grub (aslong as the partition number doesn't change)
[00:03] <wilson> #ubuntu-es
[00:03] <daevski> I just installed rtorrent with Package Manager and it won't launch (Alt+F2 'rtorrent) -- any thoughts?
[00:03] <prince_jammys> wilson: /join #channel
[00:04] <Rioting_Pacifist> daevski: its a cli app launch it in the terminal not via alt+f2
[00:05] <wilson> prince_jammys: gracias
[00:05] <prince_jammys> wilson: de nada.
[00:06] <mroc> n8tuser: could you be specific about what module i need to load and how?
[00:06] <daevski> Rioting_Pacifist, Thank you. I thought rtorrent was gui app -- what can I use that is gui-based?
[00:07] <prince_jammys> !torrent
[00:07] <Haegin> ok, grub2 is awesome and I'm happy.
[00:07] <Haegin> night
[00:08] <thiblHET> Hi, I can't refresh ppa, is the server down?
[00:09] <jeisma> anyone familiar with the command 'dig'?
[00:09] <demonspork> jeisma, I use it all the time on my venezuelan slave laborers
[00:10] <fbianconi> jeisma: kinda is it for dns lookups?
[00:10] <jeisma> fbianconi: yes, i want to use the +trace query option
[00:10] <jeisma> fbianconi: but when i do, the answer is very brief and not wha tit should be
[00:11] <jeisma> fbianconi: instead of displaying the root, tld, etc. it just says "Received 17 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>#53(<IP_ADDRESS>) in 2 ms"
[00:11] <jeisma> fbianconi: after its standard initial message
[00:11] <jeisma> fbianconi: http://outsourcedclue.com/2009/04/13/supporting-dig-trace-using-an-unbound-recursive-dns-server/
[00:12] <jeisma> should look like that
[00:12] <jeisma> but instead its not
[00:12] <shawn_> linuxguy could you open a chat with me
[00:12] <eyalw> how do I close an app using the command line? (nicely closing, no forcing it)
[00:13] <fbianconi> jeisma: demonspork might know better than I
[00:13] <kevin|demarest> eyalw: kill pid
[00:13] <wANd> Hey all, what package do I install to get those fancy "themes" for screen?
[00:13] <wANd> Like trheres a dark profile, light profile
[00:13] <thiblHET> eyalw or killall programName
[00:13] <thiblHET> Does the ppa website woorks for you?
[00:13] <jeisma> demonspork: could you help me with my dig problem?
[00:13] <eyalw> kevin|demarest: but that's forcing it, not the same as the program Quit option
[00:14] <thiblHET> I can't update and
[00:14] <kevin|demarest> eyalw: you said via the command line.  What is the difference between the quit option and using kill?
[00:15] <demonspork> jeisma, I was making a joke, sorry, don't know anything about dig
[00:15] <genii> !info dig
[00:15] <genii> Hm
[00:15] <demonspork> !dig
[00:15] <Rioting_Pacifist> kevin|demarest: kill forces the app to exit, quit lets the app do user interactive cleanup 1st
[00:15] <eyalw> kevin|demarest: well, if I kill a text editor, it won't ask me to save
[00:15] <jeisma> Alright, wellt thanks anyway.
[00:15] <Alex``> Oo
[00:16] <t0s> any idea why my volume controls only work half way and up? its like if i turn the volume half way and down i dont get any sound its like there is so low sound levels
[00:16] <revenge_> Zykotic-K9: are you there?
[00:16] <kevin|demarest> Rioting_Pacifist: like asking a user to save before closing?
[00:16] <eyalw> so, is there a way to nicely ask an application to quit using the command line
[00:16] <Mike_lifeguard> Hello, I notice that gparted reports the wrong HDD capacity - it is reporting ~300GB but the drive is 350GB.   It has about 4 hours of battery, but it shuts off at ~"50%" battery according to sensors
[00:27] <thiblHET> How can I make karmic to use grub2 instead of grub1.5 (I updated from jaunty).
[00:28] <thiblHET> ???
[00:28] <prince_jammys> thiblHET: try at #ubuntu+1 , the channel for karmic.
[00:28] <jdahm> has anyone had similar experiences?
[00:28] <jdahm> is there some way to "reset this" so that the battery dies at "0%" not "50%"?
[00:29] <kbp> does anyone use Ubuntu 9.04? if yes please help me, go to firefox -> edit -> preference -> content and tell me the settings for default fonts. My one messed up after the routine hard drive check something. :(
[00:29] <thiblHET> prince_jammys, oops, I should have thought about that before! Sorry
[00:29] <norstrom> thiblHET: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Grub2Testing - instructions for installing Grub2
[00:29] <test_> I'm about to fully re-install ubuntu on my main PC and wonder what the 'optimum' swap space I should allocate, I'm on a 32bit machine with 2gb ram(intel)
[00:30] <norstrom> usually 2x your physical ram
[00:30] <legend2440> kbp: serif  size  16
[00:30] <test_> norstrom, thanks
[00:31] <test_> i'll make it 4 then ta
[00:31] <kbp> legend2440: thank you, how about settings when you click advanced?
[00:31] <norstrom> test_: np, but thats just the sort of rule of thumb, you may find more usefull depending on the apps you use
[00:32] <thiblHET> norstrom: Does it work for you, I get "unvailable page" as for all wiki pages.
[00:32] <thiblHET> ?
[00:32] <sagaci> test_: how big is your harddrive
[00:32] <ramvi> When I try to log in on my Ubuntu machine nothing happens. The wallpaper is there and I'm able to move the mouse around. But there's no gnome-panel etc. What do I do?
[00:32] <test_> I'll reserve 8 then, so I can make it larger later (I will make it 4 for now)
[00:32] <norstrom> thiblHET: yes that link works fine for me
[00:33] <test_> sagaci it's 1tb, i will be slotting a windows drive back in when complete so might move swap to that anyway
[00:33] <Cerrdor> I need some help with remote desktop
[00:33] <test_> I'm thinking through every step of this install carefully
[00:33] <Cerrdor> How do I allow someone outside my LAN to access my desktop?
[00:34] <thiblHET> norstrom: I don't understand what is wrong here.
[00:34] <sagaci> Cerrdor: is the remote cpu linux or windows
[00:34] <legend2440> kbp:  starting from top to bottom     Fonts for: Western     Serif size 16     serif   sans-serif   monospace  size 12
[00:34] <coz_> thiblHET,  try  killall gnome-panel
[00:34] <Cerrdor> Ubuntu 9.04
[00:34] <linxeh> sagaci: cpus are not linux or windows
[00:34] <coz_> thiblHET,  tell if the panels start
[00:34] <norstrom> thiblHET: yeah, not sure why you would not be able to view that page
[00:34] <DD> I need to unintall ubuntu so I can install windows as a dual boot.  how do I wipe ubuntu
[00:34] <coz_> thiblHET,  do that with  alt+F2
[00:34] <sagaci> linxeh: "has the remote computer got linux or windows installed?"
[00:34] <queso_> I would like to encode an audio CD in MP3 format with Rhythmbox, but MP3 doesn't show up in the "Preferred format" dropdown under the "Music" tab in "Preferences." But it IS listed under the Edit... area.  How can I pick MP3 so I can encode in that format in Rhythmbox?  Thanks.
[00:35] <coz_> DD,   no you dont have to althought it is easier to install windows first
[00:35] <kbp> legend2440: thank you very much for your time :)
[00:35] <sebsebseb> DD: Why do you want to use Windows?
[00:35] <Josh__> Would it be regarded as completely insane to have both QT3 and QT4 installed on a system?
[00:35] <legend2440> kbp: your welcome
[00:35] <linxeh> sagaci: totally different question. OK, I'm a pedant, but such artistic licence causes much confusion at times :P
[00:35] <coz_> DD,   you would have to reinstall grub  I believe to pick up the ubuntu/windows install
[00:35] <sebsebseb> Josh__: not sure if you can just do that
[00:36] <sebsebseb> Josh__: you can have KDE 3  installed as well as KDE 4 though
[00:36] <Cerrdor> sagaci Ubuntu 9.04
[00:36] <Josh__> sebsebseb, Do you know if QT4 is backward compatible with QT3 apps?
[00:36] <DD> coz, I my ubuntu is a little messed up and I am new to linux, I dont want to go throught the steps to fix my ubuntu, then fix grub.  I jsut want to wipe ubuntu, install windows and then install ubuntu again.
[00:36] <coz_> DD,   go here and scroll down to   "Installing windows after https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[00:37] <DD> coz I NEED to reinstall ubuntu anyway.  going to do it no matter what.
[00:37] <ctmjr> ramvi: can you get to a terminal ctrl + alt + f2
[00:37] <ramvi> ctmjr: OK. what now?
[00:38] <sebsebseb> DD: ok well  depending on what Windows programs you want to run, you can use Wine :)  also with enough RAM  you can virtual machine most Windows programs rather nicely inside Ubuntu in a Windows virtual machine
[00:38] <DD> seb, will i have to load windows everytime I do a virtual machine?
[00:38] <sebsebseb> DD: not if you leave your computer on
[00:38] <norstrom> queso_: tried here and same thing, looking into it
[00:39] <sebsebseb> DD: you switch between the host Ubuntu, and the guest Windows,  and   right ctrl by default to get back to  Ubuntu,  this is with Virtualbox
[00:39] <DD> seb, I have been here before.  I must have windows, the ONLY solution is dual boot.
[00:39] <DD> how do I wipe ubuntu
[00:39] <DD> can I just format the partition?
[00:39] <coz_> DD,  no need to wipe it
[00:39] <sebsebseb> DD: depends on  what  Windows programs you  want to run, and you never answered that
[00:39] <coz_> DD,  did you get that link I gave you?
[00:40] <ctmjr> ramvi: run this then reboot see if it fixes it rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity what it does is remove the configure files for gnome but when you restart they will be replaced with the default configurations
[00:40] <coz_> DD,   ok then just  download   Dban and wipe the drive
[00:40] <DD> I NEED TO REINSTALL MINT
[00:40] <zruty> Hey....
[00:40] <LjL> !mint | dd
[00:40] <ramvi> ctmjr: cool thanks
[00:40] <coz_> DD,   burn Dban to a cd  boot into it and follow the instructions ...depending on the size of the hard drive  it can take all night to wip[e
[00:40] <coz_> DD,  I meant wipe
[00:41] <sebsebseb> coz_: Dban isn't needed by the average  computer user
[00:41] <coz_> sebsebseb,  I disagree  but   however you use it :)
[00:41] <zruty> Pardon me my previous remark, I was inadvertentlyt being a bit too iberal with the CoC here
[00:41] <DD> thanks coz I did that before I setup this system.  I think just a format will work.
[00:41] <johny-b-goode> Hello People.
[00:41] <coz_> DD,   thats fine also
[00:41] <johny-b-goode> guys, what's a good plugin for flash in firefox?
[00:41] <sebsebseb> coz_: if he was going to sell his  computer to someone,  well  then it  might be  a good idea to use that program first
[00:41] <coz_> DD,  I prefer wiping  but since this is not  problem install  a  format should do it
[00:41] <jgarbers> just got 9.04 up and running. is there a good reason to try to use the ATI-specific drivers for my Radeon-9800-based video board, or is it best to just stick with the stock drivers?
[00:42] <johny-b-goode> I installed gnash but FF is still not showing the flash applets?
[00:42] <teen_quiet> DD: use the Ubuntu livecd, and save your hot data... Erase all partitions, reinstall, first Windows (it's easyer), then Ubuntu... cos' Ubuntu will know howto handle Windows, but Windows won't...
[00:42] <Cerrdor> anyone know how I can allow my office PC to connect remotely to my home Linux via remote desktop?
[00:42] <coz_> sebsebseb,  I build  repair  etc etc  computers for residential and corporate clients  I never allow a system out of the workshop without having been wiped and reinstalled first
[00:42] <Rioting_Pacifist> jgarbers: if you want to do stuff like compiz/3d gaming then you'll need the ATI drivers otherwise stick with radeon as they are more stable
[00:42] <DD> I have a live cd, will that have a format option.  so I can format the swap partition and the mint partition?
[00:43] <sebsebseb> coz_: good, but  he isn't giving his computer to someone else I think?
[00:43] <coz_> sebsebseb,  I do it on all my own systems as well
[00:43] <jgarbers> Rioting_Pacifist: thanks. I like "stable". But from what little I've heard of compiz I'd like to try that too...
[00:43] <revenge_> can someone help me with sound configuration for epsxe?
[00:43] <coz_> sebsebseb,  OS's  run much smoother after a wipe
[00:43] <revenge_> I am trying to install Eternal SPU plugin 1.41
[00:44] <johny-b-goode> anyone?
[00:44] <DD> Is there a way to format a single partition using a live cd?
[00:44] <sebsebseb> coz_: a format is  all that is needed usuaully unless...   we have already done the unless
[00:44] <jgarbers> okay, dumb one... what's the easiest way to get and install the ATI drivers? Google's giving me a bunch of forum posts that are out of date...
[00:44] <coz_> sebsebseb,  as I said I disagree :)
[00:44] <prince_jammys> !ati | jgarbers
[00:44] <DD> When I say format I mean format not low level format
[00:44] <marcosRz> Hi I'm running arch here and I'm wanting something more stable and integrated for my research... and the suggestion of my teacher was Ubuntu. My question is, I remeber that adding ppas in Ubuntu would make the upgrade a lot harder/break is that still true?
[00:45] <Rioting_Pacifist> jgarbers: not on ubuntu atm but there should be a program called hardware drivers just open that
[00:45] <Cerrdor> DD: yeah its in the system tab on the Ubuntu desktop
[00:45] <DD> thanks cerrdor, will check it out.
[00:45] <koganei> okay, so I made a USB boot disk for 9.04 using USB creator disk. When I try and boot it, it crashes on VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unkown-block(104,1)
[00:45] <koganei> and it just stays there, forever.
[00:45] <jgarbers> Rioting_Pacifist: thanks - I found "Hardware Drivers" but it tells me there are none in use, and the "Enable" button is grayed...
[00:46] <sebsebseb> !info DD
[00:46] <kejava> johny-b-goode: i'm using the adobe-flashplugin that i got from the adobe site
[00:46] <Cerrdor> anyone know how I can allow my office PC to connect remotely to my home Linux via remote desktop?
[00:46] <sebsebseb> !vnc > Cerrdor
[00:47] <queso_> norstrom: I'm trying to install lame, see if that fixes it, as per this thread: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/rhythmbox-preferred-format-problem.-580494/
[00:47] <DasEi> DD: you install gparted, then go with that
[00:47] <norstrom> queso_: yes I have lame already too
[00:47] <Cerrdor> I have VNC installed
[00:47] <Cerrdor> now how do I connect
[00:47] <Rioting_Pacifist> jgarbers: ATI drivers may not be avalible yet or you need to run the program differently as im not using ubuntu i can't really help
[00:48] <DD> dasei, are you saying I should install gparted?
[00:48] <Cerrdor> I cant put in <IP_ADDRESS> :5000 in my browser at work its off the lan
[00:48] <jgarbers> ah. so the lack of an entry here doesn't mean there are no drivers *installed*, it means there aren't any *to* install?
[00:48] <DasEi> DD: for partitoning on live, why not
[00:48] <koganei> so, can anyone help me out? the live USB disk is just not booting, gets stuck on 'Kernel Panic- not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(104,1)
[00:49] <DD> ok, dasei, If I need to partition I will do that, I'm looking for the software that will let me format a single partition.
[00:49] <koganei> I have a disk in there I'm trying to fix, which is why I'm booting the live USB on the first place
[00:49] <RegressLess> Can someone tell me what this means?
[00:49] <RegressLess> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/oss-compat, it will be ignored in a future release.
[00:49] <sebsebseb> DD: gparted
[00:49] <sebsebseb> DD: are you on the Live CD right now?
[00:50] <DasEi> DD:gparted lets you do that in an easy manner, else have to look more carefull (fdisk, mkfs)
[00:50] <queso_> norstrom: seems a bit silly to have it list an option it doesn't support, lol
[00:51] <norstrom> queso_: ok install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse and it works now
[00:51] <norstrom> queso_: make sure libmp3lame0 is installed to, I already had that
[00:52] <IdleOne> !numlock
[00:53] <jgarbers> hm. it appears that ATI doesn't support the 9800 in its driver any more. lovely.
[00:53] <jgarbers> perhaps that's why it wasn't in the list. oh well.
[00:53] <RegressLess> Can someone tell me what this means? "WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/oss-compat, it will be ignored in a future release."
[00:53] <JeoTheLeo> HELP!
[00:53] <trism> RegressLess: that's just the new format for names in /etc/modprobe.d
[00:54] <queso_> norstrom: great, thx, I'll give that a try ;)
[00:54] <norstrom> queso_: no problem
[00:54] <trism> RegressLess: for some reason, certain packages haven't updated yet, you can remove the message by sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/oss-compat /etc/modprobe.d/oss-compat.conf
[00:54] <kevin|demarest> there's no man page for make?
[00:54] <RegressLess> trism: so if I'm trying to access modprobe, I should type modprobe.d instead of modprobe?
[00:54] <Cerrdor> anyone know how I can allow my office PC to connect remotely to my home Linux via remote desktop?
[00:54] <mattgirv> Cerrdor: VNC?
[00:54] <trism> RegressLess: no, that is just for the config files in modprobe.d
[00:54] <johny-b-goode> kejava: thanks. installing the adobe version....
[00:55] <RegressLess> Can someone help me set up my gamepad?
[00:55] <Mike_lifeguard> What would cause gparted & System Monitor to both report the size of my HDD as being 50GB smaller than it really is?
[00:55] <seisei> hello every 1!!
[00:55] <Cerrdor> mattgriv: I have VC on the remote Linux but I need to access it from my work PC how do I allow IPs outside my lan to access remotely to my laptop
[00:55] <seisei> help to install vmware on ubuntu ??
[00:55] <RegressLess> trism: so why do I get this message every time I try to access something in modprobe?
[00:56] <Mike_lifeguard> !ask | seisei
[00:56] <trism> RegressLess: because modprobe is reading the configuration files files from /etc/modprobe.d when it runs
[00:56] <seisei> some body help: help to install vmware on ubuntu ??
[00:56] <JeoTheLeo> how may I restore my kernel?
[00:57] <Mike_lifeguard> seisei: Please report error messages and any attempts you've already made to resolve the issue. Then someone may have enough information to help you.
[00:57] <RegressLess> trism: know of a good way to set up a gamepad?
[00:57] <Mike_lifeguard> JeoTheLeo: What does "restore" mean?
[00:57] <JeoTheLeo> and how can I connect to the internet through the CLI
[00:57] <mattgirv> Cerrdor: You'll have to forward the ports, are you behind a firewall or just a router?
[00:57] <Cerrdor> just a router
[00:57] <johny-b-goode> kejava: thanks. it worked.
[00:58] <legend2440> !vmware | seisei
[00:58] <kejava> johny-b-goode: cool :)
[00:58] <mattgirv> Cerrdor: Your work network would have to allow connections through the ports you are using for VNC too, they might be funny about client software for it though you could always set up a web server on your home PC (might not be feasible if your connection isn't too great)
[00:58] <RegressLess> trism: I'm trying to set up a gamepad and I can't figure out the instructions I've found. The modprobe is the most recent stumbling block.
[00:58] <JeoTheLeo> well, I tried building a new kernel for the intel graphics, now I can only enter through my old kernel and only to the CLI
[00:58] <trism> RegressLess: well the warning doesn't matter, it will still start the module you're trying to modprobe
[00:58] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: ping www.yahoo.com?
[00:59] <mattgirv> Cerrdor: As long as your ports are forwarded, and you have your IP you shouldn't have a problem connecting. You could always set up dyndns so you don't have to flaff around with your IP too
[00:59] <JeoTheLeo> I'm on liveCD, but from the CLI I can't ping....not connected
[00:59] <jini> hi
[00:59] <RegressLess> trism: there's no indication that it's doing anything
[00:59] <sebsebseb> seisei: Virtualbox can also use VMDK files :)
[00:59] <kevin|demarest> :/
[00:59] <sebsebseb> !welcome | jini
[00:59] <trism> RegressLess: you could do an lsmod | grep module_name_here to see if it got loaded
[00:59] <jini> hi girls
[00:59] <Cerrdor> yeah
[01:00] <claude> hey this is spikestar i hate it that u band me guys just un band me im sorry for what i said
[01:00] <trism> RegressLess: last time I used a gamepad I used jscalibrator to set it up after that, it was a while ago though
[01:00] <jini> ho want to sex white me
[01:00] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: I don't know all the component that are necessary for networking.  I know ifconfig is a part of it.
[01:00] <sebsebseb> !ops | jini
[01:00] <dartagnon> I'm using a Radeon 9800, and I've downgraded my Xserver so that I can use the older video drivers.  Everything outputs fine from my VGA port, but if I plug into my DVI, my screen messes up and becomes unreadable.   I'm trying to make it work.
[01:02] <RegressLess> :P
[01:02] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: is there a way to fix it using the liveCD perhaps?
[01:02] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: you didn't back up?
[01:02] <JeoTheLeo> I have all my files and installations
[01:02] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: not sure.
[01:03] <dartagnon> Does anyone have experience with Radeon 9800 DVI troubles?
[01:03] <norstrom> RegressLess: ok but work how? what app are you trying to use it with?
[01:03] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: the fastest thing would be to reinstall, in my opinion, but if you want to learn you can play around with it
[01:03] <JeoTheLeo> yes, I want to learn and at the same time not lose so much time running around myself
[01:04] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: I can't help you not lose time.  I'd have to search the web to find any answers to what you want to do
[01:04] <RegressLess> norstrom: eventually, I'd like to get it working with qjoypad so I can use it in place of my keyboard/mouse for gaming
[01:04] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: should I search for how to rebuild gnome perhaps?
[01:04] <movela> hi, please help! i want o reformat my usb stick. gparted doesn't want me to...
[01:05] <movela> it is on sdb
[01:05] <prince_jammys> JeoTheLeo: have you tried: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?
[01:05] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: no
[01:05] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: are you serious?
[01:05] <norstrom> RegressLess: when you plug it in and run dmesg do you see something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/275571/
[01:06] <JeoTheLeo> prince_jammys: I can't connect to the internet from the CLI
[01:06] <JeoTheLeo> prince_jammys: do you know how to connect from there?
[01:06] <agliodbs> how stable is xfs on ubuntu these days?
[01:07] <sebsebseb> agliodbs: it's not  that  used,  and it will be ok with a seperate /boot in  Ext3
[01:07] <Biovore> agliodbs: I never had any problems I couldn't fix...
[01:07] <prince_jammys> JeoTheLeo: try a cli browser:  www-browser http://google.com
[01:07] <sebsebseb> agliodbs: Ext4  is optional in 9.04 :)   and default in 9.10
[01:07] <jrib> JeoTheLeo: why aren't you just booting into the old kernel from the grub menu...?
[01:07] <RegressLess> norstrom: much more than that, but yes, that is also there
[01:07] <jrivera> hello, when i start dhcp3-server and check status it says it is running but after a while when i check the stats it says it is not running but PID exists.. anyone have any idea???
[01:07] <sebsebseb> agliodbs: might have an issue  or two for some though, but  most it's fine
[01:08] <kevin|demarest> prince_jammys: JeoTheLeo said earlier that he wasn't able to ping
[01:08] <JeoTheLeo> jrib: that's what I'm booting into...the new one gives me a PCI error I suppose
[01:08] <agliodbs> sebsebseb: would you use ext4 for a boot device at this point?
[01:08] <norstrom> RegressLess: yeah theres a bunch of stuff before that, but at least we know the system sees the pad
[01:08] <jrib> JeoTheLeo: ok, so X wasn't working before then?
[01:08] <mattgirv> agliodbs: Avoid it if you need to access your drive from Windows
[01:09] <RegressLess> norstrom: zsnes lets me set the controls, but only start works, none of the other buttons work
[01:09] <jrivera> hello, when i start dhcp3-server and check status it says it is running but after a while when i check the stats it says it is not running but PID exists.. anyone have any idea???
[01:09] <mattgirv> agliodbs: It isn't backwards compatible
[01:09] <agliodbs> mattgirv: windows can access ext3?
[01:09] <sebsebseb> agliodbs: I have used  9.04 for  / and  /home in 9.04,  and so on.   Really nice fast boot up, disck checking after 23 or so boots, and shut down.   Thing is  if big files are deleted from it, there might be a kernel lock up issue,  but other then that it's  pretty much fine really in 9.04.
[01:09] <agliodbs> anyway, this is for a server
[01:09] <RegressLess> norstrom: I probably have something conflicting--I've tried several things thus far
[01:09] <mattgirv> agliodbs: Well it is, but not strictly in the driver sense. Yes it can (not natively)
[01:09] <sebsebseb> agliodbs: for a proper server say a commerical one or something like that you should be using 8.04
[01:10] <sebsebseb> !8.04 | agliodbs
[01:10] <agliodbs> sebsebseb: nah, this is just a server for my own use
[01:10] <norstrom> RegressLess: I'm not familliar with the nes emu's, my pad does work fine with mame though
[01:10] <JeoTheLeo> jrib: it was...then I tried upgrading my kernel...here are the commands I was following:http://wiki.x.org/wiki/Development/git
[01:10] <sebsebseb> agliodbs: well  servers don't get  booted up usaully, so Ext3 should be rather fine for one
[01:11] <mattgirv> agliodbs:
[01:11] <mattgirv> errk
[01:11] <doubletwist> So on the newer Ubuntus [Karmic Koala in this case], now that there's no xorg.conf, what's the preferred method of setting parameters. Specifically I need to set synclient TapButton2 = 2 somewhere so that my two-finger click works as a middle-click since that seems to have been changed in KK
[01:11] <ccfontes> hi
[01:11] <avielfox> i have a question, this probably isnt the best place to ask it. but its as close as i can get
[01:11] <JeoTheLeo> jrib: after that, the new versions didn't work...and when I tried my old one, it sent me to the CLI
[01:11] <jrib> JeoTheLeo: you're building more than a new kernel there...
[01:11] <mattgirv> agliodbs: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[01:11] <avielfox> anyone know anything about android?
[01:11] <sebsebseb> mattgirv: uhmm  that's not what he wants
[01:11] <JeoTheLeo> jrib: I didn't go past the kernel part
[01:11] <doubletwist> I know I could set it as a script that runs at login ,but I'd prefer that it be the default and work for any users who log in
[01:11] <sebsebseb> !9.10 |  doubletwist
[01:11] <mattgyver> avielfox, what do you need to find out?
[01:11] <jrib> JeoTheLeo: then none of that would affect X at all
[01:12] <avielfox> im planning on buying an archos 5 internet tablet
[01:12] <mattgirv> sebsebseb: No, he seemed surprised that Windows could access Ext2/3 filesystems though so I thought I'd send that to him for personal reference
[01:12] <doubletwist> kthx
[01:12] <norstrom> RegressLess: have you checked the zsnes forums? theres a whole section on controllers there
[01:12] <avielfox> just would like to know if it is stable
[01:12] <mattgyver> avielfox, yeah its very stable.
[01:12] <JeoTheLeo> jrib, so where did I go wrong?
[01:12] <sebsebseb> mattgirv: oh ok,  and  it's better really to keep Windows away from Linux partitions :)  unless it's a data only partition, but even then hmm.   yes I am thinking about for example nasty viruses that can delete everything on a Windows install
[01:13] <avielfox> thankyou mattgyver
[01:13] <mattgyver> avielfox, its really only for mobile devices though, and.. thats about all its good for currently
[01:13] <sebsebseb> mattgyver: and if Linux partitions are mounted in Windows, well  they will do those as well probably
[01:13] <jrib> JeoTheLeo: no idea.  But if all you did was compile that new kernel and now you have booted into the old kernel it is impossible for it to be the cause of your current woes
[01:13] <JeoTheLeo> jrib: menuconfig perhaps?
[01:13] <mattgirv> sebsebseb: Sure, I wouldn't recommend continual usage, its handy for sharing/retrieving documents though
[01:13] <agliodbs> ok, thanks for advice
[01:13] <avielfox> well it is a mobile devide
[01:13] <avielfox> device
[01:13] <ccfontes> after installing kernel 2.6.29 with apt in jaunty, the kernel fails to boot. it tries to load devide by-uuid, and succeeds, but then tries to mount several stuff in a different uuid. i checked that uuid, it corresponds to swap device. what may I do to prevent this?
[01:13] <sebsebseb> mattgirv: also  Ubuntu and other distros, can read and write to NTFS no problem, as long as Windows shut it down properly
[01:13] <agliodbs> fwiw, ubuntu server install is much better than the last time I used it (2006)
[01:14] <mattgirv> sebsebseb: Yes, its handy to have it work both ways. I sadly get stuck in Windows from time to time
[01:14] <mattgyver> avielfox, i have an android g1 and i love it
[01:14] <sebsebseb> mattgyver: Why?
[01:14] <comfnumb> I was able to somehow install and run bitchx last night, though i closed the terminal and. How do I get it back up and running?
[01:14] <jrib> JeoTheLeo: maybe you overwrote some modules, idk
[01:14] <mattgyver> sebsebseb, ?
[01:14] <avielfox> nice
[01:14] <JeoTheLeo> jrib: so how do I restore them?
[01:14] <avielfox> ever heard of the archos 5?
[01:14] <jrib> JeoTheLeo: reinstall from the repository
[01:14] <avielfox> or archos in general?
[01:14] <sebsebseb> mattgyver: Wine or  VM of Windows, depending on the apps?
[01:14] <sebsebseb> mattgyver: and RAM if you don't have enough for a VM
[01:15] <JeoTheLeo> jrib: liveCD then?
[01:15] <snail> can someone please point me to a url about which ubuntu releases are the long-term ones, and whether the upcoming koala one will be?
[01:15] <RegressLess> norstrom: most refer to windows :P
[01:15] <jrib> JeoTheLeo: sure
[01:15] <prince_jammys> !lts | snail
[01:15] <jrivera> hello, when i start dhcp3-server and check status it says it is running but after a while when i check the stats it says it is not running but PID exists.. anyone have any idea???
[01:15] <t0s> for some reason im not able to change my volume levels in ubuntu, only in programs and like youtube
[01:15] <JeoTheLeo> jrib: how do I install from liveCD onto my partition though?
[01:15] <snail> prince_jammys: thanks
[01:15] <test_> avielfox, avoid teh archos, terrible customer service for a device like anyother pda
[01:15] <t0s> my volume can be muted in ubuntu and i still hear sounds
[01:15] <prince_jammys> snail: welcome
[01:16] <jrib> JeoTheLeo: get the debs for what you want to install on your partition then use dpkg
[01:16] <mattgyver> sebsebseb, !=mattgirv
[01:16] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: why were you rebuilding your kernel for intel?
[01:16] <JeoTheLeo> ok, can you please supply the commands?
[01:16] <RegressLess> norstrom: want to help me make sense of these instructions? http://ubuntu.bryanludvigsen.com/?p=41
[01:16] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: I wanted to enable 3D graphics acceleration for games
[01:17] <hackeron> avielfox: test_: yes - terrible devices. I still have the older gen and they charge more for plugins like ability to play aac sound more than the player itself. Also terrible battery life, no charger, terrible contacts everywhere, fragile screen, horrible, horrible french garbage
[01:17] <sebsebseb> mattgyver: oh I see I messaged you when meant to of messaged  mattgirv
[01:17] <jrib> JeoTheLeo: I really doubt this is the case though.  No I cannot supply the commands.  You're compiling kernels, you need to be willing to read and learn
[01:17] <mattgyver> sebsebseb, its no problem i just want to make sure he sees your response :D
[01:17] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: what games?
[01:17] <sebsebseb> mattgyver: ok :)
[01:17] <jrib> JeoTheLeo: if this is too difficult, just reinstall, come back here, and ask for help with your issue before compiling your own kernel
[01:18] <agliodbs> craparooni
[01:18] <JeoTheLeo> yofrankie...ufo alien invasion....etc.
[01:18] <agliodbs> bad burn of the ubuntu disk
[01:18] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: are those FOSS?
[01:18] <JeoTheLeo> jrib, I'll give it my best shot, I just don't want to mess things further
[01:18] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | agliodbs
[01:18] <agliodbs> yeah, I did the on-boot check
[01:18] <agliodbs> failed
[01:18] <agliodbs> burning again
[01:18] <sebsebseb> agliodbs: ok check your ISO as well
[01:19] <mattgirv> sebsebseb: Visual Studio doesn't run too great under Wine :p And a VM is alright now and then but sometimes its easier to just boot into Windows if I'm stuck with it all day :(
[01:19] <JeoTheLeo> I do believe so kevin|demarest
[01:19] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: if you're data is backed up and you have a live cd...it shouldn't be that big a problem
[01:19] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: interesting
[01:19]  * kevin|demarest rubs his chin
[01:19] <sebsebseb> mattgirv: I see,  why you doing that anyway?  Python and stuff like that would be better to learn :)
[01:19] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: want a nice linux-games link?
[01:19] <mattgirv> sebsebseb: Its not out of choice, well it is.. but I get paid alright :)
[01:20] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: did you try the intel graphics drivers ppa before you tried building a new kernel?
[01:20] <sebsebseb> mattgirv: I see, and I guess the apps your making are closed source hmm
[01:20] <sebsebseb> !freedom |  mattgirv
[01:20] <mattgirv> Aye :(
[01:20] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: I want you to have a system that is functioning
[01:20] <sebsebseb> mattgirv: as in yes?
[01:20] <RegressLess> can someone help me with these instructions: http://ubuntu.bryanludvigsen.com/?p=41 or help me set up a dev with these source files: http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/#download brb
[01:20] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: ppa?
[01:20] <mattgirv> sebsebseb: Fortunately the programs I make that happen to be closed source aren't too interesting anyway
[01:21] <RegressLess> back
[01:21] <mattgirv> sebsebseb: Mostly database related apps for a prison I work at :p
[01:21] <sebsebseb> mattgirv: ah ok
[01:21] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: personal packages archive
[01:21] <kevin|demarest> !ppa
[01:21] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: are you a developer?
[01:21] <mattgirv> sebsebseb: Open Source all the way if it ain't going to get my ass sued by someone with lots of money :)
[01:21] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: no
[01:22] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: I'd like to be one in the not-so-far future though
[01:22] <Teckniel> Hello
[01:22] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: likewise
[01:22] <Teckniel> dos anyone know if you can run ispconfig with iredmail?
[01:22] <norstrom> RegressLess: I tried to install/build zsnes but it does not seem to like my 64bit proc
[01:22] <sebsebseb> mattgirv: yep probably not
[01:23] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: ifconfig doesn't show any network devices?
[01:23] <JeoTheLeo> I could reboot from the HDD and try...
[01:24] <Teckniel> dos anyone know if you can run ispconfig with iredmail?
[01:24] <JeoTheLeo> but I want to have more commands up my sleeve before rebooting again
[01:24] <CppIsWeird> i have ubuntu on 3 different machines with openssl server. how come on some the login responds instantly and some it pauses for about 15 seconds before asking for the password?
[01:25] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: ifconfig, startx
[01:25] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: lynx
[01:25] <koganei> CppIsWeird, yeah that happens to me too, not sure why
[01:25] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: sudo apt-get lynx
[01:25] <RegressLess> norstrom: did you try through add/remove?
[01:26] <linuxguy2009> I tried
[01:26] <CppIsWeird> koganei, heh, glad im not crazy then. :P
[01:26] <RegressLess> norstrom: haven't tried 64 bit in a loooong time, but I've got the pc for it
[01:27] <norstrom> RegressLess: no actuall, I was try'n to do a build but I'll grab from repos
[01:28] <JeoTheLeo> sudo apt-get lynx? or install lynx?
[01:28] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: sudo apt-get install lynx
[01:28] <JeoTheLeo> ok
[01:28] <JeoTheLeo> but that's when I connect
[01:28] <ccfontes> can someone that has 2.6.29 kernel do a: cat /boot/config-2.6.28-1-netbook|grep CONFIG_REISERFS_FS ? and tell me if it is supported there?
[01:28] <ccfontes> oops, wrong kernel.. just a second
[01:28] <norstrom> RegressLess: BOOO! No 64bit support or option for zsnes
[01:28] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: yeah.  ifconfig lists networking hardware.  I don't remember the command for restarting networking
[01:29] <ccfontes> replace that config, with the appropriate for a 2.6.29 kernel that may be installed
[01:29] <mnemonic76> Is there any way to continue an incomplete installation of Jaunty? I thought the laptop was plugged in and went to bed... apparently the battery died before grub got installed. No /boot/grub directory and I get an 'error 17'
[01:29] <ccfontes> for some reason, mine doesnt have reiserfs support
[01:29] <CppIsWeird> mnemonic76, why not just start over? it would be much easier
[01:29] <mattgyver> JeoTheLeo, kevin|demarest ; to restart network should be, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:29] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest:  net join?
[01:30] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: I was thinking /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:30] <DD> Dasei, I see. OK, I can use the life cd, unmount all my drives and then format the specific partition.  Thanks!
[01:30] <mnemonic76> The laptop cant boot to cd, I have to set up a PXE server and let it download EVERYTHING! It would suck...
[01:30] <RegressLess> norstrom: lame! sorry, I'm in and out as it's time for the kids to go to bed
[01:30] <norstrom> RegressLess: no worries
[01:31] <DasEi> DD:np
[01:31] <JeoTheLeo> aha, so the init.d directory isn't loading?
[01:31] <mnemonic76> CppIsWeird: I guess that is what I will do if need be... I am booted into sysrescuecd right now (chatting) and have the hd for the laptop mounted... is there some way to fix?
[01:32] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: beats me
[01:32] <treyh> anyone have any experience modifying a LTSP installation to have the LTSP Clients connect to a random RDP_REMOTE IP Address
[01:32] <JeoTheLeo> I'll install irssi if I was able to connect to the internet from there
[01:32] <DD> sorry about the delay... My five year old decided to paint the dog.  Hard to get mad... its water based.    LOL
[01:32] <mattgyver> JeoTheLeo, im trying to follow what your doing, mind explaining again?
[01:32] <JeoTheLeo> ttyl and thanks
[01:32] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: vi /etc/init.d/networking
[01:32] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: good luck
[01:33] <JeoTheLeo> mattgyver: I tried this http://wiki.x.org/wiki/Development/git
[01:33] <abcdefg> DD: you maybe missed me with some person whom cares with it
[01:33] <barnburner> hey irc...i have a file in the trash and I try to restore it and it says that there is an error and that items in the trash cant be modifeid...is this a permissions issue?
[01:33] <mattgyver> JeoTheLeo, oh wow, thats nothing I have any idea about :(
[01:33] <abcdefg> us*
[01:33] <mattgyver> JeoTheLeo, Ill let you know when im as cool as you
[01:33] <JeoTheLeo> mattgyver: after that I tried doing the sudo gnome-update.....there wasn't such command.....so I switched onto update-gnome
[01:34]  * JeoTheLeo rethinks
[01:34]  * JeoTheLeo reconsiders what he did
[01:34] <ubuntu> hi.. i have a problem... how fix my usuntu session if my login time is less 10 seconds__
[01:34] <DD> abcdeft... if you are going to insult someone... learn to speak the language
[01:34] <mattgyver> JeoTheLeo, I didnt even know there was either gnome-update or update-gnome until you just said that
[01:34] <kevin|demarest> ubuntu: I don't understand your question
[01:34] <peeps_> what do people use to mount iso files?
[01:35] <DD> Dasei, later and thanks again.
[01:35] <ccfontes> peeps_: mount program
[01:35] <JeoTheLeo> mattgyver: I play a lot without reading instructions properly...:S
[01:35] <mattgyver> peeps_, sudo mount -o loop /path/to/isofile.iso i think
[01:35] <Biovore> peeps_: you can loop mount them..  mount -o file.so /path
[01:35] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo, mattgyver:  gnome-update or update-gnome isn't in http://wiki.x.org/wiki/Development/git
[01:35] <ccfontes> peeps_: I mean mount command
[01:35] <peeps_> i thought there used to be a nautilus right click option, but i don't see it anymore
[01:35] <Biovore> (mount -o loop file.so /path)
[01:35] <JeoTheLeo> woah
[01:35] <JeoTheLeo> one sec
[01:35] <peeps_> i can use archive mounter, but that doesn't seem to be the same
[01:36] <prince_jammys> ubuntu: sometimes that error springs up with bad .ICEauthority file permissions. Did you change the permissions of files inside your home directory?
[01:36] <JeoTheLeo> yeah sorry, update-grub
[01:36] <JeoTheLeo> :S
[01:36] <mattgyver> peeps, make a directory and mount to that directory, mkdir /media/isodir && mount -o loop ~/path/to/iso /media/isodir
[01:36] <mattgyver> peeps_,  is my cats name ';)
[01:36] <JeoTheLeo> sorry, my head's thinking gnome's busted
[01:37] <peeps_> mattgyver, :-D
[01:37] <mattgyver> JeoTheLeo, The purpose of the gnome-update your talking about, is it just to update gnome ??
[01:37] <mycomputer> how to make voice call in ubuntu
[01:37] <kevin|demarest> mattgyver: it's update grub
[01:37] <JeoTheLeo> grub-update and update-grub...not gnome...sorry
[01:37] <mattgyver> kevin|demarest, aha!
[01:37] <zealiod> how can the total bytes be so much higher than the accumulation of the bytes in the table? can some one please explain this iptables issue? http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=29060
[01:38] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: why did you think following http://wiki.x.org/wiki/Development/git would work?
[01:38] <mattgyver> mycomputer, if voip, there are a few skype apps, but look at ekiga its already included in ubuntu, if not skyp look into asterix
[01:38] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: I actually followed intellinuxgraphics.org and they lead me there
[01:38] <barnburner> hey irc...i have a file in the trash and I try to restore it and it says that there is an error and that items in the trash cant be modifeid...is this a permissions issue?
[01:39] <mattgyver> barnburner, probably not it could be corrupt, but you could try to do a ls -l, i dont have a clue what the trash directory is though ;l
[01:39] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: I'll check it out
[01:39] <mycomputer> how to execute c program in ubuntu
[01:39] <Biovore> mycomputer: try compiling it..
[01:40] <theunixgeek> Are there any compatibility issues with the Dell Mini 10?
[01:40] <mattgyver> mycomputer, you have to compile the program with make, but you need to make sure you have gcc and build essentials.. probably easier to goggle it.
[01:40] <epaphus> How do I enable people to ssh in my box..? i think by default it is closed or not active?
[01:40] <mycomputer> Biovore:how i cant understand?
[01:40] <theunixgeek> Are there any compatibility issues with the Dell Mini 10?
[01:40] <JeoTheLeo> mycomputer: use gcc or g++
[01:40] <weslson> /etc/init.d/ssh start
[01:40] <weslson> if that doesn't work
[01:40] <weslson> install openssh
[01:40] <mycomputer> thans
[01:40] <weslson> apt-get install openssh
[01:40] <agliodbs> feh, bad download
[01:41] <agliodbs> re-downloading
[01:41] <mattgyver> epaphus, you have to install openSSH and then ensure that port 22 is forwarded to the machine you want to set as a gateway.  Also make sure they have logins...
[01:41] <mycomputer> thanks
[01:41] <JeoTheLeo> mycomputer: also codeblocks and netbeans work nicely
[01:41] <JeoTheLeo> mycomputer: you can get them from the repositories
[01:42] <mycomputer> JeoTheLeo: repositories means?
[01:42] <mattgyver> hey, anyone know if you can access a smb share over the internet??
[01:42] <Out_Cold> !repo
[01:42] <JeoTheLeo> !gcc
[01:43] <epaphus>  mattgirv, if  its openssh, when i do apt-get install openssh it says couldnt find any packages
[01:43] <mattgyver> epaphus, Hmm... lemme look real quick, it should be openssh, or maybe openssh-server
[01:43] <mattgyver> epaphus, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:44] <mattgyver> ';)
[01:44] <Piranah> Is there a program like Virtual Trace Route for linux ?
[01:44] <JeoTheLeo> mycomputer: the ADD/Remove program uses the repositories....so you can just type netbeans or codeblocks
[01:44] <epaphus> mattgyver, thanks server.
[01:44] <Piranah> *visual trace route
[01:44] <Piranah> dam typo's
[01:44] <mattgyver> epaphus, just a suggestion, i would disable root from being able to ssh in, that can be set in the /etc/ssh/sshd.conf i think.
[01:44] <mattgyver> if you need root you can still use sudo, or do a sudo -i
[01:45] <N30n> Help Please. I am trying to do a usbcore kernel fix for virtual box using this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=970628 BUT the thread is for 2.6.27 and I have 2.6.28-15 and its not working. help please??
[01:45] <JeoTheLeo> Piranah: errrm, you can use the network tools...
[01:45] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: how do you check what version of the intel driver is installed?
[01:45] <epaphus> mattgyver, thanks
[01:46] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: BIOS?
[01:46] <Out_Cold> i found that if someone is going to ssh your system using brute force, then denying ssh root login is kinda useless since they can just log in as a normal user and then sudo -i
[01:46] <ubuntuaddict> hello.. one simple question..what is the alternate to babylon?
[01:46] <mattgyver> epaphus, np, let me know if you need anything else related to that ill be glad to help
[01:46] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: in Ubuntu
[01:46] <epaphus> I just enabled the magnify option on my screen... how do I take it off?... :/
[01:46] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: I know lshw -C display
[01:46] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: but it doesn't show anything about versions or file names
[01:46] <jimbeam12> hey all
[01:46] <kevin|demarest> hmmm
[01:47] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: the BIOS is OS independant...
[01:47] <Piranah> Is there anything avail for linux like Visual Trace Route ?
[01:47] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: the BIOS is OS independent...
[01:47] <jimbeam12> anyone now how to write a script for nvclock
[01:47] <Piranah> not network tools
[01:47] <Piranah> lol
[01:47] <N30n> Help Please. I am trying to do a usbcore kernel fix for virtual box using this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=970628 BUT the thread is for 2.6.27 and I have 2.6.28-15 and its not working. help please??
[01:47] <Piranah> I want to see the lines on a map
[01:47] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: yes it is.  I don't have the password for my bios.  I set it and forget it :/.  I meant what driver (module?) linux is using
[01:47] <mattgyver> !babylon
[01:48] <epaphus> anybody..?
[01:48] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: @ http://intellinuxgraphics.org 2.8.1 is the newest driver
[01:49] <jsubl2> looking for pointers on getting gyachi to connect to yahoo
[01:49] <N30n> Help Please. I am trying to do a usbcore kernel fix for virtual box using this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=970628 BUT the thread is for 2.6.27 and I have 2.6.28-15 and its not working. help please??
[01:49] <epaphus> anybody know how to return the screen to normal after I hit some hotkey to enlarge it..?
[01:49] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: you mean graphics driver
[01:50] <mezquitale> epaphus, you tried rebootin or restartin your xserver?
[01:50] <ubuntuaddict> LATER
[01:50] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: btw, you can flash your BIOS...or are you using a laptop?
[01:50] <Out_Cold> epaphus, was the hot key ctrl + 1 or something??
[01:50] <kevin|demarest> interesting
[01:50] <epaphus> mezquitale, no.. but its a hotkey that provokes that...
[01:50] <epaphus> i dont remember ive seen other ubuntu users recreate it hmm
[01:50] <mattgyver> epaphus, are you using compiz?
[01:50] <epaphus> Out_Cold, i think it was
[01:51] <epaphus> mattgyver, this is  brand new instakk
[01:51] <deamonunix> help
[01:51] <mattgyver> oh..
[01:51] <Out_Cold> epaphus, try another number with your hot keys..
[01:51] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: I'm using a laptop.  I haven't flash a bios using gnu/linux
[01:51] <juancarlos> Hi, Whats up?, como andan?
[01:51] <Out_Cold> ctrl + 2 or something
[01:51] <kevin|demarest> *flashed
[01:52] <epaphus> Out_Cold, no luck :/
[01:52] <Out_Cold> can you get back into compizconfig settings manager?
[01:52] <juancarlos> !foo
[01:52] <kevin|demarest> how can I find out what version of snd_hda_intel is installed?
[01:52] <epaphus> Out_Cold, where is that?
[01:53] <Out_Cold> should be in system>admin>compiz
[01:53] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-028686.htm
[01:53] <mattgyver> epaphus, not sure if this will work but from terminal you could try this... xrandr -s <size in px(1024x768)> ??
[01:53] <deamonunix> how to setup my own website
[01:53] <kevin|demarest> can a BIOS be seen as a miniature operating system?
[01:53] <deamonunix> how to setup my own website using ubuntu server?
[01:53] <N30n> Help Please. I am trying to do a usbcore kernel fix for virtual box using this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=970628 BUT the thread is for 2.6.27 and I have 2.6.28-15 and its not working. help please??
[01:54] <epaphus> mattgyver, the resolution is already set to 1024x768...
[01:54] <mattgyver> epaphus, doh
[01:55] <Veder_> buenas
[01:55] <kevin|demarest> N30n: how can I help?
[01:55] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: reading
[01:55] <epaphus> ive seen other users magnify their screen.. its a hot key but i dont know which one it is
[01:55] <shawn_> Could anyone help me figure out why this brand new high-ish end graphics card I bought isnt displaying very well?
[01:56] <devnull_> zoom desktop
[01:56] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: that link doesn't have information for GNU/Linux
[01:56] <mattgyver> deamonunix, its gonna require that you setup apache, after that you pretty much put the files in /var/www and make sure you chgrp www-data /var/www/sitefolder
[01:56] <juancarlos> CTRL + scroll = magnify
[01:56] <kevin|demarest> :(
[01:56] <epaphus> devnull_, yes,,, how do i manipulate that?
[01:56] <devnull_> i have mine at META + scroll
[01:57] <devnull_> epaphus, compiz ?
[01:57] <juancarlos> yes, depends on keyboard layout
[01:57] <devnull_> yes it does
[01:57] <barnburner> hey how do i change the label of a hard drive...like it says music right now...i want to change it to something different
[01:57] <chrome> hey guys, I've got some issues with the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver that look like they are fixed in Karmic. I don't want to go to Karmic yet, so is there a way I can get that package built for Jaunty without too much hassle?
[01:57] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-010512.htm
[01:57] <devnull_> i hate having a windows key on my linux machine ... meta is much more politicaly correct :)
[01:57] <deamonunix> but im using dynamic IP
[01:57] <ooze> hi!  whats the ubuntu website where people can vote on new features/vote them up or down?
[01:57] <deamonunix> how to fixed that?
[01:58] <deamonunix> so have a stable connection?
[01:58] <juancarlos> Meta or Super ?
[01:58] <ooze> ahh nvm
[01:58] <ooze> brainstorm
[01:58] <mattgyver> deamonunix, setup a DDNS service and install the IP updater from a provider like Dyndns, or no-ip.com
[01:58] <devnull_> juancarlos, yea ... much more os independant
[01:58] <Veder> #amistad
[01:58] <Veder> buenas
[01:58] <juancarlos> conecction floood spam
[01:59] <juancarlos> hola
[01:59] <mattgyver> barnburner, the drives volume name is normally that of the folder it is mounted in
[01:59] <devnull_> wow ... net split ?
[01:59] <Veder> alguien sabe como instalar el pluging java para firefox?
[01:59] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: back at http://intellinuxdrivers.org
[01:59] <mattgyver> barnburner, you might have to do a umount on the folder, rename the directory and then remount the drive.
[01:59] <juancarlos> si
[01:59] <Veder> me lo podrias explicar?
[01:59] <mattgyver> o man, it just netshit
[01:59] <kevin|demarest> !es
[01:59] <ctmjr> !netsplit
[01:59] <Veder> gracias
[02:00] <Veder> #ubuntu-es
[02:00] <kevin|demarest> Veder: you're welcome
[02:00] <kevin|demarest> Veder: /j #ubuntu-es
[02:00] <juancarlos> Veder: pone en la barra de direciones de firefox:   apt:flashplugin-nonfree
[02:01] <deamonunix> it is okey to setup using my existing ubuntu 9.04 desktop?
[02:01] <innomen> so i just installed an app in synaptic and the name of the app in terminal does nothing and there are no decernable start menu changes how do i find out where it went and how to start it?
[02:01] <innomen> UniversalIndentGui is the app
[02:01] <juancarlos>  /j #ubuntu-es
[02:01] <mattgyver> deamonunix, its okay to set it up that way but you really need to make sure your system is pretty tight from a security standpoint
[02:01] <mattgyver> deamonunix, i would look into setting up fail2ban before you even think about going live with it
[02:02] <RegressLess> cans someone help me create a deb from source files?
[02:02] <mattgyver> RegressLess, why not just install from source?
[02:02] <CppIsWeird> i have ubuntu on 3 different machines with openssl server. how come on some the login responds instantly and some it pauses for about 15 seconds before asking for the password?
[02:02] <deamonunix> ok
[02:02] <RegressLess> mattgyver: you wanna walk me through it?
[02:02] <innomen> mattgyver, why not run mac?
[02:02] <deamonunix> so ineed to setup ubuntu server ed?
[02:02] <mattgyver> innomen, i dont follow.
[02:03] <yZor> hiya
[02:03] <innomen> mattgyver, pet peeve, ignore me, cant stand the "want something else" type answers
[02:03] <Flannel> deamonunix: You can use your current system
[02:03] <mattgyver> oh oh, ok, i wont ignore you though :)
[02:03] <deamonunix> my ubuntu 9.04 desktop?
[02:04] <innomen> mattgyver, running from source is a halfway, like a tutorial, its not a solution
[02:04] <Flannel> deamonunix: Correct
[02:04] <mattgyver> innomen, thats why im helping him in pm :D
[02:04] <innomen> deb are better, repo is best
[02:04] <innomen> mattgyver, thats because you're awesome :)
[02:04] <deamonunix> what is the additional config to run my web?
[02:04] <barnburner> does ubuntu have an onscreen keyboard or something...shift and cap locks dont seem to work over vnc....
[02:05] <mattgyver> innomen, oh please! ill probably screw the hole thing up and he will be asking agin in 10 minutes
[02:05] <jmoraes> eai galera
[02:05] <innomen> mattgyver, thought that counts, and either way someone will learn something, mission accomplished
[02:06] <innomen> anyone have a clue how i find out where ubuntu hid this application?
[02:06] <Flannel> CppIsWeird: It's because it's trying to do reverse DNS during that time, and won't ask for your password until it gets one (or doesn't)
[02:06] <ctmjr> innomen: how did you try to start it UniversalIndentGui
[02:06] <innomen> synaptic should tell you upon ciompletetion of install "to start this app" like it does in add remove
[02:06] <jrib> innomen: dpkg -L PACKAGE | grep bin
[02:07] <innomen> ctmjr, i looked for a menu entry, and then i tried typeing UniversalIndentGui in the terminal
[02:07] <innomen> jrib, will do
[02:07] <CppIsWeird> Flannel, why does one server respond immidately while the other two do not? Why would they not all be affected by this?
[02:07] <ctmjr> innomen: am not sure but believe it is UniversalIndentGUI the gui in caps
[02:07] <innomen> jrib, is that the install location?
[02:07] <Flannel> CppIsWeird: Because some servers find your reverseDNS quickly, and the others dont.
[02:08] <norstrom> whats the sudo type command to run that brings up the gui sudo box?
[02:08] <innomen> ctmjr, bash: UniversalIndentGUI: command not found
[02:08] <Epoxy_> Is there a "printer" that will generate a .pdf and send it to an email recipient in one step? I'm trying to make sending invoices from GNUCash more efficient.
[02:08] <Flannel> norstrom: gksu
[02:09] <norstrom> Flannel: thanks! I was try'n everything...
[02:09] <innomen> ctmjr, jrib, it was UniversalIndentGUi all lower case
[02:10] <innomen> new error: universalindentgui: error while loading shared libraries: libqscintilla2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:11] <Biovore> innomen: sounds like you need some QT stuff
[02:12] <innomen> Biovore, suggestion?
[02:12] <innomen> whats QT, for starters
[02:12] <innomen> !QT
[02:13] <coilette> somethings wrong with my sound, If im watching a movie. Kopetes notification sounds do not play at all
[02:14] <axisys> anyone here also having issue with ipw2200 on ubuntu 9.04 ?
[02:14] <axisys> my whole laptop stops responding when load ipw2200 modules
[02:15] <axisys> it was giving tons of parity errors.
[02:15] <N30n> Help please. Ubuntu 9.04. Installed virtualbox and it broke my wifi driver (atheros), how do I reinstall the wifi driver?
[02:15] <axisys> only way to make laptop functioning is unloaidng ipw2200
[02:15] <norstrom> Is there a list of recommended reading for linux commands? The main stuff is easy to google as you need it for tasks like ls, cp, mv, rm), but as I go I find lil gems like cat, grep, dd, dmesg. Is there a list of the 'main set' of commands?
[02:15] <axisys> looks like other people also having similar issue
[02:16] <axisys> http://forum.aircrack-ng.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=677fd561077b0eb6da53e2d1cd59ae4f&topic=5910.0
[02:16] <dtcrshr> anyone /j #freenode
[02:16] <haris> What is a very light weight window manager that has a system tray option (for Pidgin, wicd etc)
[02:16] <dtcrshr> whops
[02:16] <kevin|demarest> how can I find out what video driver I have installed?
[02:16] <kevin|demarest> what version?
[02:16] <coilette> somethings wrong with my sound, If im watching a movie. Kopetes notification sounds do not play at all
[02:16] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: I tried startx and networking restart
[02:17] <DarhHost> hola
[02:17] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: any luck?
[02:18] <JeoTheLeo> nope
[02:18] <kevin|demarest> !es | DarhHost
[02:18] <DarhHost> !es
[02:18] <DarhHost> ?
[02:18] <mattgyver> kevin|demarest, not the best suggestion but try a lsmod and then try to see if you can determine anything from that.  Sometimes you get lucky.
[02:18] <Flannel> DarhHost: /join #ubuntu-es
[02:18] <DarhHost> thanks
[02:18] <JeoTheLeo> failed to initialise for startx....and networking restart didn't connect though it didn't give an error either
[02:18] <yZor> legen....wait for it....---->
[02:18] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: I'm still trying to figure out what video driver version I have installed
[02:19] <yZor> DARY
[02:19] <kevin|demarest> mattgyver: suggested lsmod
[02:19] <mattgyver> oh n/m
[02:19] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: I think linux installs i915 by default
[02:19] <coilette> somethings wrong with my sound, If im watching a movie. Kopetes notification sounds do not play at all
[02:19] <DasEi> kevin|demarest: or dpkg -l > pakets.txt,  then look up in this file
[02:20] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: I have headers in /usr/src/ that are named "intel"
[02:20] <kevin|demarest> DasEi: bash: pakets.txt: No such file or directory
[02:21] <wulfen> Can Jackalope be upgraded directly to Koala?
[02:21] <N30n> Help please. Ubuntu 9.04. Installed virtualbox and it broke my wifi driver (atheros), how do I reinstall the wifi driver?
[02:21] <N30n> Help please. Ubuntu 9.04. Installed virtualbox and it broke my wifi driver (atheros), how do I reinstall the wifi driver? I want the ath5k driver.
[02:21] <N30n> or whichever is defualt in 9.04
[02:21] <JeoTheLeo> N30n, you want it on the virtualbox?
[02:21] <kevin|demarest> DasEi: nevermind
[02:22] <innomen> Biovore, i have qt 4 installed... i dont know what to do from here, i just want a gui for tidy heheh
[02:22] <N30n> JeoTheLeo, i need help reinstalling the driver. when I installed virtualbox it broke my original driver (something I remember from past expirience) how do I reinsatll the ath5k?
[02:23] <accol> noob question: trying to clean up some software i accidentally deleted the log out thing (the thing on the upper right that lets you logout/shut down) does anyone know where i can go to reinstall it?
[02:23] <barnburner> mattgyver: i change the folders that the hds are mounted in and also changed the fstab but the label of the hds on the desktop didnt change
[02:23] <DasEi> kevin|demarest:  dpkg -l > pakets.txt                               ,  then look up in this file
[02:23] <kevin|demarest> DasEi: I needed to be in a folder I had permissions in.  I was in /usr/src
[02:23] <DasEi> kevin|demarest:  see or use sudo
[02:24] <kevin|demarest> DasEi: I changed directories
[02:24] <JeoTheLeo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1065880
[02:24] <JeoTheLeo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=987955
[02:24] <JeoTheLeo> N30n/\
[02:24] <N30n> ok
[02:24] <mattgyver> barnburner, see PM
[02:24] <deamonunix> tnx u smch
[02:25] <deamonunix> g2g
[02:25] <DasEi> kevin|demarest:  I'm not sure if the used driver is found there, but detailed info about x you get from /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:25] <accol> noob question: trying to clean up some software i accidentally deleted the log out thing (the thing on the upper right that lets you logout/shut down) does anyone know where i can go to reinstall it?
[02:25] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: lsmod lists i915
[02:25] <JeoTheLeo> yeah
[02:25] <coilette> how do i get my sound device configured correctly to play sounds from multiple applications
[02:25] <coilette> somethings wrong with my sound, If im watching a movie. Kopetes notification sounds do not play at all
[02:26] <DasEi> accol: right click upper panel > add > ...
[02:26] <borek_> anyone kere, knows stuff about crytpology?
[02:26] <kevin|demarest> ah "module version = 2.8.99" compiled for 1.6.3
[02:26] <DasEi> borek_: details ?
[02:26] <JeoTheLeo> where from?
[02:26] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: did you look at your Xorg.0.log file then decide to recompile your kernel?
[02:27] <JeoTheLeo> nope
[02:27] <kevin|demarest> it says "compiled for 1.6.3"
[02:27] <borek_> a very general, drunken questtion. Can I PM you?
[02:27] <DasEi> borek_: go ahead
[02:27] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//intel_drv.so
[02:28] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: want me to paste my Xorg.0.log to pastebin?
[02:28] <rashed2020> Is there a list of netbooks that ubuntu works on perfectly?
[02:28] <JeoTheLeo> if you'd like
[02:28] <rashed2020> I would
[02:29] <ctmjr> accol: right click the panel add to panel see if it's in there
[02:29] <JeoTheLeo> I mean if it's ok with you
[02:29] <rashed2020> It totally is
[02:29] <kevin|demarest> !who JeoTheLeo
[02:29] <kevin|demarest> crud
[02:30] <rashed2020> What does !who do?
[02:30] <kevin|demarest> rashed2020: JeoTheLeo was talking to me
[02:30] <rashed2020> Yeah I know. I was kidding.
[02:30] <kevin|demarest> rashed2020: oh.
[02:30] <kevin|demarest> rashed2020: are you serious about !who?
[02:30] <rashed2020> Yeah.
[02:30] <rashed2020> !who rashed2020
[02:30] <kevin|demarest> you have to put a | between !who and rashed2020
[02:30] <coilette> !cookies
[02:31] <rashed2020> !who | kevin|demarest
[02:31] <ewp> !bitches
[02:31]  * kevin|demarest eats !cookies like a cookie monster
[02:31] <rashed2020> Ohh
[02:31] <ewp> yerp
[02:31] <kevin|demarest> ubottu: I already do this
[02:31] <Cpudan80> dont play with the bot
[02:31] <Cpudan80> !play
[02:31] <Cpudan80> :-(
[02:31] <ewp> !bacon
[02:31] <ewp> !ubuntu
[02:31] <ubuntuaddict> i need help installing qstardict on ubuntu 9.04.i installed it..but i dont see it running..ubuntu says it is RUNNIN??
[02:32] <ctmjr> !msgthebot
[02:32]  * kevin|demarest sighs
[02:32]  * ewp likes bacon
[02:33] <rashed2020> Boooooo ubuntu+2 is invite only
[02:34] <N30n> JeoTheLeo, im still having trouble. Heres the deal, isntalling Virtualbox changes the kernel which effectivly breaks the ath5k driver, I need to recompile and install ath5k, I cant figure out how to do that.
[02:34] <cristian_> cual es el canal de ubuntu en español
[02:34] <ubuntuaddict> this bot is messed up lo;l
[02:34] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/275598/
[02:35] <coilette> !gender
[02:35] <coilette> woot i knew it
[02:36] <mow> !status
[02:38] <rjune> I'm using Evolution with google as the data store for my contacts and calendar. is there anyway to tell it to manually sync?
[02:38] <cristian_> cual es el canal de ubuntu en español
[02:39] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 0.1.0
[02:40] <JeoTheLeo> oh wait
[02:40] <JeoTheLeo> compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 2.6.3
[02:41] <kevin|demarest> yeah
[02:42] <DasEi> !es | cristian_
[02:42] <mercutio22> I have a partition with another O.S. in an external HD. Is it possible to somehow set it to not be automounted?
[02:42] <ouija_> livecd is a joke with an external drive
[02:42] <ouija_> :(
[02:42] <JeoTheLeo> should I just re-install ubuntu? :S
[02:42] <jimbeam12> can someone help..
[02:42] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: how much time do you have?  I think I'd like to try recompiling, but I need to set up pxe for when it almost certainly doesn't work :\
[02:42] <mattgyver> mercutio22, you can remove it from your /etc/fstab file
[02:43] <jimbeam12> cant find the menu tabs for logs or restart..
[02:43] <DasEi> mercutio22: you can disable polling on the usb, but other usb won't automount then, too
[02:43] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: I have all the time in the world....but I'm not making progress...
[02:43] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: are you running on a laptop?
[02:44] <JeoTheLeo> nope, I hate laptops....since frying my own :D
[02:44] <timClicks> histo, is the keyserver operating?
[02:44] <timClicks> histo, is the keyserver operating?
[02:44] <JeoTheLeo> couldn't flash the BIOS...had an unallocated space...
[02:44] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: how did you get the system to boot?
[02:44] <mercutio22> DasEi, mattgyver: my windows partition is never automounted. I just want to do the same: to be able to mount it by will, not automatically. Should I proceed editing the /etc/fstab file?
[02:44] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: I read you don't need to flash the bios on one of the links you sent me
[02:45] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: did you get any errors when you compiled?
[02:45] <mattgyver> mercutio22, yes edit fstab and you want to make sure your removing the line which locates that HDD that its installed on
[02:45] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: oh, no that's something else....was telling you what I did to destroy my laptop....now I'm booting from liveCD
[02:45] <mattgyver> mercutio22, if you need help pastebin your fstab file
[02:46] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: multiple missing libraries....but I apt-get them all then it worked
[02:46] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: oh, flashing from a boot disk or from ubuntu?
[02:46] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: did you try a different kernel from the grub menu?
[02:46] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: currently, no flashing at all....just booting from an ubuntu liveCD
[02:47] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: what about grub menu?  did you try that?
[02:47] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: tried the new ones I made....they had a PCI error and a couldn't find root file in 0,0 error
[02:47] <DasEi> mercutio22: sudo fdisk -l            << name of the usb device ?
[02:47] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: there was no backup kernel?
[02:47] <JeoTheLeo> kevin|demarest: the backup kernel now boots to a command-line interface
[02:48] <rogerrabbitdidit> hello, i've just used mdadm to create a RAID 1 pair of two drives.  i now have /dev/md0, consisting of sdb and sdd.  I already had an LVM on sda and sdc.  How can I move my LVM to md0?
[02:48] <mercutio22> mattgyver, ok. Note that I want the other partition to keep being automounted... http://paste.ubuntu.com/275602/
[02:48] <kevin|demarest> I had a problem kind of like this...when I upgraded to Ibex from Heron
[02:49] <kevin|demarest> I ended up just reinstalling, I tried grub menu to select different kernel but it wouldn't boot up
[02:49] <shawn_> What is the command to restart X
[02:49] <kevin|demarest> shawn_: startx
[02:49] <kevin|demarest> shawn_: oh, sorry, cntrl-alt-backspace
[02:49] <rogerrabbitdidit> shawn_: i think it's sudo /etc/init.d/xserver-xorg restart
[02:49] <JeoTheLeo> I had a similar thing when I updated to Jaunty from Intrepid
[02:49] <kevin|demarest> hehe
[02:49] <mercutio22> DasEi: /dev/sdb5
[02:49] <rogerrabbitdidit> 9.04 doesn't have ctrl alt bcksp
[02:49] <DJBilly> Escriba el texto aqufffd....hola
[02:50] <JohnRobert> anyone know when ubuntu 9.10 is out?
[02:50] <nicklas_> if i have added a ppa repos from launchpad, is it possible to remove that and go back to the package versions you had before updating?
[02:50] <DJBilly> alguien habla español?
[02:50] <DasEi> mercutio22: sudo hal-disable polling /dev/sdb5
[02:50] <danbhfive> shawn_: in 9.04 it is SysRq+k
[02:50] <kevin|demarest> !es | DJBilly
[02:50] <DasEi> !karmic | JohnRobert
[02:50] <DJBilly> thank you
[02:50] <kevin|demarest> danbhfive: I didn't know that.  I think I reenabled cntrl-alt-backspace
[02:50] <JohnRobert> will break?
[02:51] <Nerve> hey
[02:51] <mercutio22> DasEi: hal-disable  command not found
[02:51] <DasEi>  JohnRobert : betas have bugs
[02:51]  * JeoTheLeo considers giving up and re-installing
[02:51] <danbhfive> JeoTheLeo: whats the problem?
[02:52] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: can you find anyone else that tried what you did?
[02:52] <DasEi> mercutio22: sudo hal-disable-polling /dev/sdb5                    typo "-"
[02:53] <kevin|demarest> JeoTheLeo: what error messages do you get?  did you check your system log?
[02:54] <Tulaneadam21> Full screen flash works poorly on my 6 year old hp desktop running ubuntu 9.04, anyone know how to fix it (I already tried turning off hardware acceleration which did not fix the problem)
[02:54] <devnull_> Tulaneadam21, ati or nvidia
[02:54] <JeoTheLeo> danbhfive...I tried: http://wiki.x.org/wiki/Development/git until the reboot part....but didn't actually change the grub on the update-grub command...kept it to default...then after rebooting I did make install again and then update-grub....on rebooting the new kernels didn't work and the old one now boots to a CLI
[02:54] <Tulaneadam21> I'm not sure
[02:54] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21: hardwarespecs ?
[02:54] <shawn_> That command to restart X didnt work
[02:55] <Tulaneadam21> 6 year old hp a465w desktop
[02:55] <kevin|demarest> shawn_: which one?
[02:55] <ubuntuaddict> any startdict users???
[02:55] <Tulaneadam21> Is there any way to check if I have ati or nvidia, because it just says "standard vga" when I looked in my system properties
[02:56] <devnull_> search the web for the specs on your computer
[02:56] <shawn_> Kevin|demarest All of the commands people said dint work
[02:56] <devnull_> that is what i would do
[02:56] <ubuntuaddict> ANY STARDICT USERS..I NEED HELP...mine is translatign into one language
[02:56] <danbhfive> JeoTheLeo: yeah, I think you should just reinstall.  It's the easiest for serious errors IHO
[02:56] <Cyrano_De> Tulaneadam21: lspci |grep vga
[02:57] <ctmjr> Tulaneadam21: run this i a terminal lspci | grep -i vga
[02:57] <JeoTheLeo> ok, what's the best way to reinstall and lose as little files and configurations as possible
[02:57] <kevin|demarest> shawn_: did you type /etc/init.d/xserver-xorg restart in a terminal with sudo priviledges?
[02:57] <mercutio22> DasEi: it seems I must insert UDI instead of /dev/sdb5, how do I find it?
[02:57] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21: few factors can cause this, weak hardware, slow connection, bad dispalydriver; to much refresh of ff in background, wrong codecs
[02:58] <shawn_> It says command not found
[02:58] <DasEi> mercutio22: udi ? uuid : sudo blkid
[02:58] <kevin|demarest> shawn_: dunno
[02:58] <Tulaneadam21> will do
[02:58] <Tulaneadam21> will do
[02:58] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:58] <shawn_> WOuld logging in and out be the equivelant of restarting X?
[02:59] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21: when done ..
[02:59] <Tulaneadam21> will do
[02:59] <ctmjr> shawn_: you have to use sudo too do that
[02:59] <mercutio22> DasEi: Yeah... thats what I meant to say =] thanks
[02:59] <kevin|demarest> shawn_: yes.  if you want, you can search for "cntrl-alt-backspace ubuntu enable" to find a guide to reenable this shortcut.
[02:59] <JeoTheLeo> sudo pseudo
[02:59] <devnull_> via
[03:00] <kevin|demarest> sudo quasi
[03:00] <ctmjr> !dontzap | shawn_
[03:01] <JeoTheLeo> quasi is better :P
[03:01] <DasEi> modo?
[03:02] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21: just call back when ready, ff can also be modified
[03:02] <JeoTheLeo> ok, what's the best way to reinstall and lose as little files and configurations as possible
[03:02] <arooni> can someone help me get alsa working on ubuntu jaunty?  i have a nvidia mobo with onboard sound (enabled) and i cant for the life of me get it working;  http://pastie.org/624253 ; also i verified sound works *great* when i boot from ubuntu live cd; so it sounds to me my alsa config is messed up
[03:02] <Tulaneadam21> running lspci I grep -i vga in terminal did not do anything
[03:02] <abcdefg> WHY IS UBUNTU BETTER THAN DEBIAN?
[03:03] <rogerrabbitdidit> abcdefg: you're hurting my ears
[03:03] <mercutio22> DasEi: usage recommends: hal-disable-polling [--udi <udi> | --device <device-file>] what is the device-file thing?
[03:03] <sebsebseb> !caps |  abcdefg
[03:03] <N30n> Anyone know how to recompile the ath5k driver?
[03:03] <sebsebseb> !ot | abcdefg
[03:04] <Piranah> arooni, im new but fif ya check that yer onboard was set in side gnome ? by default mine was set to NVidia HDMI off my vid card in place of the onboard nvidia sound
[03:04] <ctmjr> Tulaneadam21: it is not an I it is | the key above the enter key on qwerty keyboard
[03:04] <urthmover> What is the PPA address for the new evolution 2.28?
[03:04] <devnull_> Tulaneadam21, i would be looking on the web for the specs for your computer
[03:04] <abcdefg> WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THAT UPPERCASE IS SHOUTING, I DONT THINK SO.
[03:04] <JeoTheLeo> ok, what's the best way to reinstall and lose as little files and configurations as possible
[03:04] <sebsebseb> !troll | abcdefg
[03:04] <Piranah> abcdefg, basic email / im etiquette RTFM
[03:04] <arooni> Piranah, where do u set that
[03:05] <DasEi> arooni: sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel  && sudo apt-get install alsamixergui
[03:05] <candie_> francais
[03:05] <sebsebseb> !fr |  candie_
[03:05] <Piranah> arooni, system prefeneces sound
[03:06] <abcdefg> OMG THIS ISN'T A CONCERN IN THE WEB THAT UPPERCASE IS SHOUTING
[03:06] <KB1JWQ> !ot abcdefg!ot | abcdefg
[03:06] <rogerrabbitdidit> ignore abcdefg
[03:06] <Madpilot> abcdefg, quit the all CAPS, right now
[03:06] <Tulaneadam21> running "lspci | grep -i vga" in terminal returns "error, no file in directory"
[03:06] <Piranah> abcdefg, omfg you must be 12
[03:06] <arooni> DasEi, i see:  "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such device"
[03:06] <devnull_> abcdefg, yea your hitting your limit on trying to be humorous
[03:07] <KB1JWQ> Let us be civil.
[03:07] <DasEi> mercutio22: sudo hal-disable-polling  --udi  "uuid"  --device   /dev/sdb5                    no quotes for uuid
[03:07] <devnull_> Tulaneadam21, find your specs on the internet
[03:07] <ctmjr> !feedthetroll
[03:07] <abcdefg> serious, this shouting thing is non-sense
[03:07] <DasEi> arooni: so still wrong driver
[03:07] <sebsebseb> ctmjr: no he is still here
[03:07] <abcdefg> but if hurt you people I stop
[03:07] <KB1JWQ> !ot | abcdefg
[03:08] <arooni> DasEi, yes appears so; how can i fix?
[03:08] <arooni> DasEi, in sound control panel i can still hear sound when i "Test" it
[03:08] <abcdefg> what is better in ubuntu rather than debian
[03:08] <ctmjr> sebsebseb: yea wrong factoid my mistake
[03:08] <sebsebseb> !best | abcdefg
[03:09] <sebsebseb> ctmjr: np
[03:09] <urthmover> evolution 2.28   Is my only option to compile/build it myself?
[03:09] <shawn_> How do I get two monitors going with seperate X servers... I have it set that way and it says I have to restart X but save the configuration to my X file first so I hit the save button and it says it couldnt remove old backup or something
[03:09] <shawn_> What should I do?
[03:09] <DasEi> arooni: http://paste.ubuntu.com/275612/
[03:10] <Tulaneadam21> The computer specs don't specify ati or nvidia online, but the computer comes with an ati multimedia cd, so ATI I guess but I'm not sure
[03:10] <mercutio22> DasEi: weird..  invalid udi: f5fe24bf-3bf2-4c65-b6e7-f7f2006c0376  Should I omit the dashes?
[03:10] <mercutio22> nope...
[03:10] <abcdefg> there is any difference regarding hardware compability between linux distros?
[03:10] <ctmjr> shawn_: are you using the nvidia gui tool to set it?
[03:10] <mercutio22> hmmm
[03:10] <shawn_> ctmjr Yes
[03:11] <Madpilot> urthmover, if 2.28 is the current stable, and it was released before 9.10 feature freeze, it'll be in next month's Ubuntu release
[03:11] <tonsofpcs> so I have a machine on my desk that doessn't function properly
[03:11] <tonsofpcs> X is very very very sluggish, the WM isn't drawing titlebars properly, and when i move the mouse around, i see blocks around it that don't draw right....
[03:11] <innomen> how can i pipe all the file and folder names of a given directory to a file?
[03:11] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21: sudo apt-get install hwinfo && sudo hwinfo                         << for detailed hw-info
[03:11] <innomen> in windows it was dir *.* /s > list.txt
[03:11] <vigo>  Tulaneadam21: Have you looked in BIOS at boot?
[03:12] <rogerrabbitdidit> innomen: ls * -R > list.txt
[03:12] <MrFSL> innomen: ls > list.txt
[03:12] <rogerrabbitdidit> capital R, not lowercase
[03:12] <DasEi> mercutio22: no quotes, or try without udi-option
[03:12] <rogerrabbitdidit> MrFSL: he's looking for recursive (/s switch)
[03:12] <innomen> rogerrabbitdidit, thanky
[03:12] <MrFSL> find works too
[03:12] <MrFSL> find ./
[03:13] <ctmjr> shawn_: you need to run it as root sudo nvidia-settings then it will save it to xorg
[03:13] <urthmover> having to run nvidia-settings from a sudo is so lame....there should be a save as root button or something
[03:14] <DasEi> mercutio22: just tried myself (diff. devicename) hal-disable-polling --device /dev/sdd
[03:14] <DasEi> sudo *
[03:14] <urthmover> or nvidia-settings could ask if you want to run in superuser mode when it starts
[03:14] <rogerrabbitdidit> urthmover: if they had such a button, it would be called the VFV (vector-for-virus) button :)
[03:14] <nicklas_> http://pastebin.com/d42aab18
[03:14] <DasEi> mercutio22: sudo hal-disable-polling    --device   /dev/sdb                    for your case
[03:15] <urthmover> rogerrabbitdidit: thats  true...but having it ask to run in superuser mode on startup might work
[03:15] <migg137> easy question... how do i make my screen resolution bigger?
[03:15] <migg137> thanks
[03:15] <urthmover> rogerrabbitdidit: then prompt for user/pass
[03:15] <DasEi> !resolution | migg137
[03:16] <migg137> DasEi.. i dont want to restart... just make it different
[03:16] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21: through so far ?
[03:16] <matthew1> is there away to open terminal using a keystroke
[03:16] <MrFSL> migg137: you have a nvidia? intel? what?
[03:16] <Tulaneadam21> dasei, sudo hwinfo does a scan but does not display the results
[03:16] <migg137> matthew... yes there is
[03:17] <vigo> matthew1: Yes
[03:17] <migg137> MrFSL, i have intel chipset family
[03:17] <arooni> i can now hear audio output through rhytembox; but i cant hear any audio out on flash videos on youtube via firefox .  runnning jaunty and have the latest flash player (from adobe) installed.
[03:17] <MrFSL> then system > preferences > display
[03:17] <matthew1> migg137, vigo, lol sorry for not being more specific, allow me to continue; ...if so, how? Thank you :-)
[03:17] <mercutio22> DasEi: weird: The given drive don't use removable media so it's not polled anyway.
[03:17] <migg137> matthew1... sysptems preferences keyboard shortcuts
[03:18] <vigo> matthew1: Depends on the system, usually in Preferences;Keyboard Shortcuts.
[03:18] <Tulaneadam21> Ubuntu did not prompt me to install either an ati or nvidia driver upon installation, which leads me to believe the computer might have some standard vga graphics card, and not be ati or nvidia based, but i know knothing about computer hardware
[03:18] <platius> =1
[03:18] <matthew1> vigo, migg137, ha ha, that was too easy I guess I should have looked harder. thank you!
[03:19] <vigo> np
[03:19] <MrFSL> Tulaneadam21: lspci | grep -i vga
[03:19] <DasEi> mercutio22: so you had the wrong device,  carefully (size) look up sudo fdisk -l again
[03:19] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21: sudo hwinfo > hwi.txt   for a comfortable file,  sudo hwinfo | grep vga
[03:19] <migg137> matthew1.. no prob i mad emine be ctrl shift t
[03:19] <migg137> its easy to remeber because t for terminal
[03:20] <vigo> or K
[03:20] <Tulaneadam21> lspci | grep -i vga does nothing in terminal
[03:20] <MrFSL> lspci | grep -i vid
[03:21] <Tulaneadam21> lspci | grep -i vid does not display any output in terminal either unless I'm mistyping it
[03:21] <Guest93254> what are the software we can use to develop web pages on ubuntu
[03:22] <MrFSL> sudo hwinfo --gfxcard
[03:22] <mattgyver> Guest93254, use nvu, i think its called komposer now
[03:22] <mattgyver> Guest93254, theres also bluefish
[03:22] <mattgyver> Guest93254, then you can make pages for the internets
[03:23] <O__o> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQekFkgpFJs funny news
[03:23] <MrFSL> Tulaneadam21: one of these three should display your graphics info
[03:24] <urthmover> I have somehow lost copy/paste into a gnome-terminal  it used to be Ctrl+Shift+V    how do I troubleshoot this?
[03:24] <thiebaude> O__o, i remember that
[03:24] <mattgyver> O__o, paid for by m$
[03:24] <O__o> really?
[03:24] <mattgyver> no
[03:25] <O__o> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI this was the first news
[03:25] <thiebaude> O__o, he said it looks alot like windows
[03:25] <thiebaude> ha
[03:25] <AfC> urthmover: Crtl+Shift+V still works here.
[03:25] <O__o> those idiots cant even pronounce the word ubuntu right
[03:25] <urthmover> yeah it works sporadically for me....very very odd
[03:25] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21:unbelieveable ..   sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:25] <urthmover> thanks for the feedback AfC
[03:26] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21: sudo hwinfo | pastebinit                                           << give url from terminal here
[03:26] <Tulaneadam21> via unichrome graphics card
[03:26] <binMonkey> hi, guys.  can i ask about trouble installing epiphany-webkit here?
[03:27] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:27] <Tulaneadam21> ?
[03:27] <mattgyver> dude, you got a dell
[03:27] <thiebaude> haha
[03:28] <MrFSL> Tulaneadam21: that is an old one yes?
[03:28] <urthmover> I would love some guidance on upgrading my evolution to 2.28   it seems that I must compile/build my own...yet when I do apt-get build-dep there are about 10 dependencies that are still needed.....Does anyone know of a PPA with the latest evolution 2.28 on it?
[03:28] <mattgyver> O__o, thats almost as exciting news as apple dropping the mac guy from the commercials cuz a poll shows people like the pc character
[03:28] <O__o> they still have those commercial on tv
[03:28] <O__o> ?
[03:29] <mattgyver> yeah, apparently they are old, there filming new ones
[03:29] <shawn_> How do I remove my Nvidia driver?
[03:29] <urthmover> I've seen new mac guy commercials about every month
[03:29] <mattgyver> shawn_, i think you can remove it from restricted drivers
[03:29] <Tulaneadam21> MrFSL, yes, it is a 6 year old hp desktop
[03:29] <Pici> !offtopic
[03:30] <binMonkey> i'm trying to install epiphany-webkit using aptitude.  i keep getting this error message:  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/HighContrastLargePrint/48x48/apps/gnome-web-browser.png'.  i've removed that file  and i stil can't get it to install.  i keep getting the same error message.
[03:30] <dragonlyre> Hi, I have a question about wireless cards. I can connect on my network as the admin but not under my user name. Is there a something I need to do?
[03:30] <shawn_> mattgyver hwhat do you mean from restricted drivers? In Synaptic?
[03:30] <Ben64> binMonkey: another package has that installed, and is causing a conflict
[03:31] <mattgyver> shawn_, Administration > Hardware Drivers
[03:31] <demonspork> Can someone name the application to get the bar of information on the left side of this picture? http://failreactor.com/images/desktop_09_september2.png
[03:31] <shawn_> mattgyver I didnt install it through there I installed it with a .run
[03:31] <binMonkey> Ben64: i've tried to remove the package that has that and aptitude wants to remove a bunch of dbg files for other programs.  is that ok to do?
[03:31] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21: sudo hwinfo | pastebinit                                           << give url from terminal here
[03:31] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:31] <mattgyver> demonspork, its conky
[03:32] <MrFSL> Tulaneadam21: so what is wrong... no graphics?
[03:32] <Ben64> binMonkey: what package has it?
[03:32] <demonspork> mattgyver, thank you very much
[03:32] <Tulaneadam21> Dasei, do I run that cmd in terminal?
[03:32] <mattgyver> demonspork, np, you will have to look around cuz there are 'themes' and things that you setup.. it doesnt come looking like that
[03:32] <mattgyver> shawn_, im not too sure :(
[03:32] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21: yes please :-D
[03:32] <binMonkey> Ben64: epiphany-webroser-data.  removing that leads to removing others including gnome-dbg.
[03:32] <webbb82> when i log out so i change change sessions insted of taking me to the login screen it logs me out into command line so i have to type start x to get back inn   why would i take me there insted of the login screen gui
[03:33] <demonspork> mattgyver, can you name the one in that picture? or am I just going to have to look for it?
[03:33] <shawn_> How do I set up dual screens on Ubuntu without Nvidia Driver but with an ATI
[03:33] <demonspork> mattgyver, because at the moment I just keep a few terminal windows stuck in the background with devilspie, and that would be a lot cleaner looking
[03:34] <mattgyver> demonspork, your gonna have to look around unfortunatly, and its probably custom.  You edit a .conkyrc file and put in the commands the way you want it laid out, there are certain plugins like weather you have to setup too
[03:34] <adante> any easy way to get irssi installed on 8.10?
[03:34] <webbb82> is grub ubuntus version of dos
[03:34] <DasEi> adante: sudo apt-get install irssi  ?!
[03:34] <binMonkey> adante: isn't it in the repos?
[03:34] <mattgyver> demonspork, conky can be from very easy to setup, all the way to very complicated depending on what you want on there.
[03:34] <adante> DasEi: oop, irssi 0.8.14 on ubuntu 8.10 i mean
[03:34] <jazzzz> hello
[03:35] <DasEi> !info irssi
[03:35] <jazzzz> i want to change my public ip adress
[03:35] <jazzzz> adress
[03:35] <jazzzz> how can i do it?
[03:35] <Biovore> jazzzz: talk to your ISP..
[03:35] <Tulaneadam21> pastebinit/var/log/Xorg.0.log "no such file or directoryZ"
[03:35] <jazzzz> if i reboot my freebox i keep always the same ip adress
[03:36] <Biovore> jazzzz: nothing really.. maybe unplug your cable modem for a bit..  and hope your ISP assigns you a new IP..
[03:36] <webbb82> anyone know why when i log out it drops me into "dos" insted of the gui logi n screen
[03:36] <mattgyver> demonspork, http://imagebin.org/64767 if you want you can see the code to mine to get an idea
[03:36] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21: 0=zero, case sensitive
[03:36] <jazzzz> no it don't in france with a freebox
[03:36] <c0l2e> brasero doesn't seems to burn VCD or DVD movies.. why?
[03:36] <jazzzz> always keeping the same
[03:36] <adante> so i guess that's a no :]
[03:37] <mattgyver> demonspork, sorry, that one was cut off, check this http://imagebin.org/64768
[03:37] <DasEi> c0l2e: hard to stay, start it from terminal to see error output or try k3b
[03:37] <DasEi> say*
[03:37] <Tulaneadam21> yeah, it still says no such file or directory
[03:38] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21: sudo hwinfo | pastebinit                                           << give url from terminal here
[03:38] <demonspork> mattgyver, I that would be amazing, but I am surprised you set that up but didn't find an icon set you like better than the default
[03:38] <mattgyver> :D i know im such a bum
[03:38] <ekontsevoy> How do I get the keycode (Gnome) for a certain key? My old xmodmap script doesn't work under Carmic becausse Apple keyboard's "Command" key has a different code now...
[03:38] <Tulaneadam21> http://pastebin.com/f959fcb1
[03:38] <Pici> ekontsevoy: use xev
[03:38] <shawn_> How do I load my backup xorg config
[03:38] <demonspork> Mattgyver, I have a matrix iconset that I am building
[03:38] <mattgyver> cool
[03:39] <demonspork> mattgyver, the one that I could get online wasn't complete enough
[03:39] <jazzzz> so nobody know how to change a public ip adress?
[03:39] <ekontsevoy> Pici: awesome! Thanks! It's #133 now :)
[03:39] <demonspork> jazzzz, that can only be changed by talking to your ISP
[03:39] <Steve132> hi, I was just wondering...I've got a vista partition
[03:39] <Steve132> and I'm about to reinstall my ubuntu partition
[03:39] <rwlove> I've got a sound problem on mythbuntu 9.04, I have no sound after an upgrade (I think this is the culprit)
[03:39] <binMonkey> adante: i think you'll have to compile it.
[03:39] <Tulaneadam21> http://pastebin.com/f959fcb1
[03:39] <jazzzz> no they never change it
[03:39] <Steve132> I've got plenty of HDD space
[03:39] <shawn_> How do I load my backup xorg config
[03:39] <demonspork> jazzzz, if you have a DSL, you can just reset your modem, just turn it off for a minute and then turn it back on
[03:40] <mattgyver> demonspork, http://pastebin.com/m20be962a  theres the code, save to /etc/conky/.conkyrc
 no they don't change it here in france
[03:40] <Steve132> I remember back in the day it was recomended to format shared data drives as FAT32 because both ubuntu and XP could read/write
[03:40] <jazzzz> it's always the same
[03:40] <Steve132> that filesystem
[03:40] <jazzzz> i can pass by a proxy?
[03:40] <Steve132> Im wondering if that recommendation has changed for ubuntu/vista
[03:40] <adante> binMonkey: heh was afraid of that
[03:40] <mattgyver> demonspork, setup conky in your startup applications with the following command to apply the file, conky -c /etc/conky/.conkyrc
[03:40] <nguyen> hi
[03:40] <edbian> I'm trying to get scribblenauts running on desmume but the touch screen is just all blue or green depending on the screen.  Any ideas?
[03:41] <nguyen> hello
[03:41] <demonspork> mattgyver, thank you very much
[03:41] <binMonkey> adante: it should be pretty simple.
[03:41] <nguyen> yes
[03:41] <shane2peru> Steve132: I think it is till the same
[03:41] <mattgyver> demonspork, another thing thats kinda neat is the screenlets package, its more graphical but i dont use it much.. conky is faster
[03:41] <nguyen> no
[03:41] <mattgyver> np
[03:41] <shane2peru> !who
[03:41] <adante> binMonkey: well i got up to the point where it said /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl :]
[03:41] <nguyen> fuck
[03:41] <nguyen> fuck you
[03:41] <Steve132> shane2peru: so vista still supports fAT32
[03:41] <Tulaneadam21> Alright, thanks anyway guys
[03:41] <shane2peru> !language | nguyen
[03:42] <nguyen> cai dis
[03:42] <Steve132> and its still the best windows-compatible  filesystem ubuntu supports?
[03:42] <shane2peru> Steve132: ohh, that I'm not sure of, sorry
[03:42] <ekontsevoy> Pici: do you know how to reset xmodmap to original map?
[03:42] <MrFSL> Steve123: Windows drivers for ext2 and ext3 are available for free
[03:42] <shane2peru> Steve132: I know that Ubuntu can access and write to ntfs, but I don't know how much it has improved, I haven't used it for a while
[03:42] <Pici> ekontsevoy: Sorry, I don't know :/
[03:42] <nguyen> hello
[03:43] <nguyen> scortt
[03:43] <nguyen> scott
[03:43] <demonspork> mattgyver, you could just put the .conkyrc in your home directory....
[03:43] <jazzzz> so nobody can help me with public ip adress and proxy?
[03:43] <nguyen> cp4mx
[03:43] <MrFSL> Steve132: ntfs support has only improved in later versions of Ubuntu
[03:43] <nguyen> cp4mx?
[03:43] <shane2peru> MrFSL: Steve132 have the ext3 drivers improved for Windows?  it was kind of hokey about two years ago.
[03:43] <Steve132> shane2peru: they are unusable
[03:43] <binMonkey> adante:  try installing libperl.
[03:43] <bastid_raZor> jazzzz: public ip's are provided by your ISP. you personally can't change it
[03:44] <Steve132> MrFSL: so you would recommend using ntfs?
[03:44] <MrFSL> shane2peru: I have used windows ext2/3 drivers in Windows in professional environments for at least the last two years without issue
[03:44] <shane2peru> Steve132: don't work with vista?
[03:44] <Ben64> Steve132: ext3 works perfectly in windows
[03:44] <MrFSL> Steve132: depends on your application
[03:44] <Ben64> ext3 on windows works better than ntfs on linux
[03:44] <shane2peru> MrFSL: yes, they work ok, but for me it was a pain, and had to always re-set it up every time I wanted to use it, sorry looking interface too.
[03:45] <MrFSL> Steve132: are you just interested in sharing between Linux and Windows?
[03:45] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21: ok, apart from that little stiffy graphics specs are alright,  3one athlon, 1.5 ram see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[03:45] <webbb82>  gnome-do runs very slow with my intel mobile 943 grafix card and the way to fix it is to add this command in the xorg.config file  but karmic doesnt have a xorg.config file what can i do
[03:45] <Ben64> on windows, you just install the ext3 driver, and forget about it
[03:45] <Ben64> ext3 drives come up native afterwards
[03:45] <shane2peru> !karmic | webbb82
[03:45] <adante> binMonkey: should have thought of that - thanks.
[03:45] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21:before you loos more hair, a quick setting for ff now :
[03:46] <MrFSL> shane2peru: if you are choosing aesthetics over function... you might be in the wrong channel ;)
 can't i use a proxy?
[03:46] <binMonkey> adante: did it work?
[03:46] <jthunder> can someone check and see if ftp.rsasecurity.com is working for them.... I am getting no response
[03:46] <webbb82> ya but no one ever help in there
[03:46] <adante> binMonkey: yep!
[03:46] <Steve132> MrFSL: Yes, I'm interested in having my music/movies partition as a shared partition between both
[03:46] <nguyen_> where are you ?
[03:46] <demonspork> shane2peru, ext3 actually works great in all versions of windows with ext2ifs drivers.  every once and a while you will have fsck complain while you are booting Linux after being in windows, but I have never had any problems with data or partitions while using the windows drivers
[03:46] <shane2peru> MrFSL: well, I was a windows user then. :)
[03:46] <Steve132> Ben64: I haven't been able to get ex2ifs to work ever.  I've tried it 4 times on 3 different computers each
[03:46] <MrFSL> Steve132: I have used NTFS for this without issue. I don't recommend FAT32 due to file size limitations
[03:47] <Ben64> well you're doing it wrong
[03:47] <shane2peru> demonspork: I'm not into windows now days, all my computers are filled with Linux. :)  and virus free, I was just curious to the discussion
[03:47] <Ben64> i've never had it not work
[03:47] <jthunder> trying to get to the pkcs headers and can't
[03:47] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21:open ff-browser
[03:47] <Steve132> Ben64: ok, then how should I do it?  It seemed pretty straightforward
[03:47] <Ben64> it is straightforward : /
[03:48] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21: choose new tab, put in adressbar : about:config
[03:48] <nguyen_> xc
[03:48] <Ben64> 1. download and run http://www.fs-driver.org/download/Ext2IFS_1_11a.exe; 2. done
[03:48] <shane2peru> demonspork: I thought they were ugly and difficult to get to work they r/w-ed fine, just not a very good interface - that was then this is now. :)
[03:48] <Steve132> yeah, I did the instructions, installed the installer, etc.  Never works.  We can go back and forth about how awesome it is in your reality, but unless there is like some sort of commonly made error I made, it doesn't work for me
[03:48] <MrFSL> Ben64: hold up one second. Accessing ntfs is already built in to both O/Ss. can you give a reason why to use the ext2/3 drivers for this applicaiton?
[03:48] <arooni> hi folks. i  can hear audio via flash in firefox and via rythembox; but i cant hear audio via xmms2 or aplay.  error here:  http://pastie.org/625458  ... ideas?  (jaunty with nvidia mobo with intel-hda sound)
[03:49] <Ben64> MrFSL: because linux doesn't support ntfs as well as the ifs driver supports ext3
[03:49] <Steve132> MrFSL:  In the past, NTFS support was a bit flaky with creating new files
[03:49] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21: in field filter,  search for : browser.sessionstore.interval
[03:49] <henryhenryhenry> hi
[03:49] <Ben64> plus, ext3 is a better filesystem format
[03:49] <Steve132> MrFSL: but a google search reveals that there is a new ntfs-3g driver that was made in 2006
[03:49] <shane2peru> !hello | henryhenryhenry
[03:49] <henryhenryhenry> how can I run lighthttpd on my xubuntu? please help
[03:49] <Ben64> !lucid
[03:49] <Guest93254> i installed bluefish but its not listed in preferences or
[03:50] <Steve132> has that been integrated into jaunty or karmic?
[03:50] <MrFSL> Steve132: it is this ntfs-3g / fuse driver that is installed by default in Ubuntu
[03:50] <Cyrano_De> MrFSL: ntfs has some VERY serious performance issues when you need to do a fair amount of IO.
[03:50] <henryhenryhenry> how can I run lighthttpd on my xubuntu? please help
[03:50] <bastid_raZor> jazzzz: yes.
[03:50] <Stormx2> !repeat | henryhenryhenry
[03:50] <shane2peru> Steve132: I'm pretty sure that vista supports fat32, because most usb sticks are fat32
[03:50] <DasEi> Tulaneadam21: did you find it ??
[03:50] <henryhenryhenry> how can I run lighthttpd on my xubuntu? please help
[03:50] <henryhenryhenry> how can I run lighthttpd on my xubuntu? please help
[03:50] <henryhenryhenry> how can I run lighthttpd on my xubuntu? please help
[03:50] <FloodBot3> henryhenryhenry: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:50] <Ben64> fat32 sucks, ext3 is better
[03:50] <MrFSL> IO or no... in practical application of music/video share on same system I have never had issue with ntfs via linux
 but rapidshare refuse  the download when i use a free proxy. how can i do?
[03:51] <henryhenryhenry> a
[03:51] <henryhenryhenry> hello
[03:51] <bastid_raZor> jazzzz: rapidshare is not ubuntu related problem.
[03:51] <Stormx2> henryhenryhenry, http://tinyurl.com/lz3drd
[03:51] <MrFSL> I do suggest ext2/ext3 drivers via windows (which was my original suggestion) but if the user has had issues with installing...?
[03:51] <henryhenryhenry> thanks stormx
 can we talk in private?
[03:52] <bastid_raZor> jazzzz: i don't know anything about proxy's.
[03:52] <ammadeusy> hello. good evening. does anybody know a channel where I can ask questions about mIRC?
[03:52] <szczym> helo in bin/sh value=`ls -1 $dump/*`  gives me files names with path, how i could only get filename ?
[03:52] <nguyen_> jijl.
[03:53] <bastid_raZor> jazzzz: you could try #ubuntu-offtopic  ..sometimes constructive things are discussed there.
[03:53] <henryhenryhenry> I'm a newbie here in linux can somebody help me? How to install tar.gz
[03:53] <jazzzz> ok thank you
[03:53] <Stormx2> henryhenryhenry, a .tar.gz of what, exactly?
[03:53] <Ben64> henryhenryhenry: dude. open synaptic. search for lighttpd, install, done
[03:53] <Ben64> synaptic is your friend. if you want to install a program.. use synaptic
[03:53] <konbon> henryhenryhenry: what are you try to install, maybe theres a deb that can make it easier for you
[03:53] <MrFSL> Ben64: New users ... remember?
[03:54] <Stormx2> henryhenryhenry: If it's lighttpd you're after, just follow the link I gave you.
[03:54] <henryhenryhenry> I mean tar.gz is compiled ?
[03:54] <Ben64> Stormx2: no
[03:54] <ctmjr> !tar | henryhenryhenry
[03:54] <Ben64> henryhenryhenry: open synaptic
[03:54] <Ben64> ignore Stormx2
[03:54] <IdleOne> !compile | henryhenryhenry
[03:54] <LucidGuy> Correct me if Im wrong .. but 32bit Linux systems are also limited to under 4gb of ram right?  To increase limit one has to either upgrade to a 64bit version or update the kernel with a PAE aware kernel.  Would you all agree?
[03:54] <Stormx2> No, ignore Ben64!
[03:54] <Ben64> ignore everyone except for me
[03:54] <Ben64> synaptic has lighttpd, install it there for great justice
[03:54] <jimbeam12> hey all
[03:55] <konbon> hi jimbeam12
[03:55] <henryhenryhenry> so I musty get a tar.gz after that? what is the next thing to do?
[03:55] <jimbeam12> hye need help pls
[03:55] <innomen> its not letting me format my usb stick with gnome partition, what am i doing wrong?
[03:55] <Stormx2> Ben64: Aye. That's what the link I gave him tells him to do, and plus it helps with PHP and MySQL installation. Why are you so opposed to it?
[03:55] <Ben64> holy damn, henry, henry, henry, henry.
[03:55] <scar3crow> whats the command to tell if im using i386 or x64 version please
[03:55] <jimbeam12> how do i swtich from kde desktop to gnome
[03:55] <Stormx2> henryhenryhenry: No .tar.gz is required
[03:55] <LucidGuy> uname -a
[03:55] <ammadeusy> does anybody knw how to save a conversation in mIrc? kinda hard to select all the text in a pvt
[03:55] <Ben64> henryhenryhenry: synaptic
[03:55] <Stormx2> !apt | henryhenryhenry
[03:55] <DasEi> !compile | henryhenryhenry
[03:55] <Ben64> Stormx2: because apparently your link told him to get tar.gz
[03:55] <Stormx2> ammadeusy: try #mirc
[03:55] <jimbeam12> is there a swtich command "switchdesk"
[03:56] <ammadeusy> tks
[03:56] <Stormx2> Ben64: Quoth my link: "Lighttpd is available as a Ubuntu package, therefore we can install it like this: sudo apt-get install lighttpd"
[03:56] <henryhenryhenry> so what is the command to compile? tar.gz?
[03:56] <Guest93254> i install bluefish but its not in under system or application tabs
[03:56] <henryhenryhenry> i'm so confused
[03:56] <IdleOne> henryhenryhenry: the next thing to do is read the links that were sent to you by ubottu but to install software the easiest way would be to use the Synaptic package Manger that can be found under System > Administration
[03:56] <Ben64> henryhenryhenry: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!synaptic!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:56] <innomen> hwo do i get rights to delete partiions on my usb stick?
[03:56] <Stormx2> henryhenryhenry, stop right there. You don't need to do anything with the .tar.gz
[03:56] <Stormx2> henryhenryhenry, you don't NEED a .tar.gz
[03:56] <Ben64> you don't WANT a .tar.gz
[03:56] <Stormx2> The .tar.gz doesn't want you.
[03:56] <DasEi> innomen: by gparteds pw-authenification
[03:57] <konbon> :P
[03:57] <Ben64> There is no .tar.gz
[03:57] <DasEi> he
[03:57] <Stormx2> The .tar.gz is a lie.
[03:57] <jimbeam12> anyone know how to switch from kde to gnome desktop
[03:57] <shane2peru> jimbeam12: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:57] <innomen> DasEi, i had to give it my password on startup
[03:57] <Stormx2> jimbeam12, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. Log out, select "GNOME" as your session, log in.
[03:57] <DasEi> jimbeam12: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:57] <bastid_raZor> jimbeam12: if you have them both installed you'll need to log out and choose one or the other at the login menu
[03:57] <konbon> jimbeam12: i know of gnome to xfce
[03:57] <IdleOne> Stormx2: please stick to the topic no need to add more unneeded information that will confuse him more
[03:57] <konbon> but not kde to gnome
[03:58] <konbon> :\
[03:58] <DasEi> innomen: so you can, but think of unmounting before altering partis
[03:58] <IdleOne> !puregnome | jimbeam12
[03:58] <Stormx2> IdleOne, it's frustrating when people ask for help but don't actually pay attention to your answers :(
[03:58] <Psylon> how do I replace the gnome DE in ubuntu with openbox and tint2?
[03:58] <jimbeam12> i want to use both desktops..
[03:59] <innomen> DasEi, wont let me unmount says the enclosing drive for the volume is locked
[03:59] <Stormx2> jimbeam12, then follow the original advice that myself, shane2peru and DasEi
[03:59] <IdleOne> Stormx2: We have to remember IRC is frustrating unto itself adding the fact that he wants to install a program and does not know how and trying to follow 4 people giving advice :)
[03:59] <DasEi> Stormx2: yep, or leave 2 mins before eta
[03:59] <ammadeusy> hi... nobody answers on #mirc :(
[03:59] <henryhenryhenry> stormx
[03:59] <shane2peru> jimbeam12: in that case just: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:59] <jimbeam12> sorry missed that what advice??
[03:59] <Stormx2> Yep?
[03:59] <konbon> ammadeusy: what did you need?
[03:59] <henryhenryhenry> help me on compiling
[03:59] <innomen> DasEi, i got it
[03:59] <ammadeusy> save a pvt conversation. hard to select all the text in one time.
[03:59] <innomen> DasEi, thank you :)
[03:59] <DasEi> Stormx2: yes
[03:59] <jimbeam12> i have sudo deskotp already installed
[03:59] <DasEi> innomen: np
[03:59] <Stormx2> henryhenryhenry, no. You don't need to compile anything to install lighttpd.
[03:59] <IdleOne> !compile > henryhenryhenry
[04:00] <konbon> ammadeusy: what client are you using ?
[04:00] <Ben64> IdleOne: dude quit it
[04:00] <Stormx2> IdleOne, man, what were you just telling me? xD
[04:00] <ammadeusy> mirc 6.35 retail.
[04:00] <jimbeam12> its telling me gnome display manager is not running..
[04:00] <Hansard> hello, does anyone know any gui frontends for the ExactImage scan to search/selectable pdf library?
[04:00] <konbon> Oh, right click on the Tab and select "Log / On"
[04:00] <konbon> "Logging / On"
[04:00] <ammadeusy> konbon: does that works always, or everytime i run mirc i will need to do that?
[04:01] <IdleOne> Stormx2: he wants help on compiling, I understand we gave him the help to install with apt/synaptic now he also has the info for compiling, if henryhenryhenry wants to go the hard route then it is his choice
[04:01] <jimbeam12> if you wish to use this feature then your system will need to be configured to use gdm instead
[04:01] <konbon> ammadeusy: once you do it, it stays. As long as you properly shut down mirc
[04:01] <Ben64> IdleOne: he doesn't want the hard route, he's being confused by stuff that's telling him to compile
[04:01] <ammadeusy> konbon: where the log is put?
[04:01] <DasEi> IdleOne: he had various advices, compiling included but just kept on asking
[04:02] <IdleOne> Ben64: I nominate you to help henryhenryhenry . Please follow henryhenryhenry directions and you will get the result you want :)
[04:02] <ammadeusy> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\mIRC\logs
[04:02] <ammadeusy> ok
[04:02] <konbon> Tools / Log Files
[04:02] <ammadeusy> thanks
[04:02] <konbon> no prob
[04:02] <ammadeusy> sorry my confusion.
[04:02] <konbon> its ok
[04:02] <ammadeusy> good night
[04:02] <jimbeam12> Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:03] <konbon> Oof, i should have mentioned that the previous info would not be logged because she JUST now set the logs on.
[04:03] <konbon> hehe
[04:03] <cmdbbq> so i feel foolish, but i am locked out of my main machine and need to reset the password, i do not know the root password or my account password and i do not have a live cd handy. any ideas?
[04:04] <Brian___> i need to del a file from terminal i need to del xorg.conf how do i do this from the terminal
[04:04] <MrFSL> jimbeam12: YOu want to use both Gnome and KDE?
[04:04] <Ben64> cmdbbq: you can enter runlevel 1 from grub
[04:04] <cmdbbq> runlevel1?
[04:05] <Ben64> yeah, single user mode = gives you root without password
[04:05] <cmdbbq> i have attempted recovery mode from grub but it prompts for root password
[04:05] <Ben64> http://fedoranews.org/ghenry/grub/
[04:05] <cmdbbq> is this different?
[04:05] <nicklas_> ( . Y . )
[04:05] <MrFSL> jimbeam12: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop
[04:05] <Ben64> basically, edit the grub section for ubuntu, add 1 to the end of the kernel line
[04:05] <bastid_raZor> Brian___: sudo rm -f /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:06] <Guest96476> some jack audio driver or application cant start some server  any way i cant record my guitar please help
[04:06] <Ben64> Brian___: deleting xorg.conf will likely leave you without any graphics
[04:06] <bastid_raZor> Ben64: no, it will be regenerated. it will reset the defualt options.
[04:07] <Brian___> im in karmic i guese it does it differant
[04:07] <Hansard> Ok so nobody knows any gui for ExactImage hocr2pdf
[04:07] <bastid_raZor> Brian___: please join #ubuntu+1 for karmic issues.
[04:07] <Guest96476>  some jack audio driver or application cant start some server  any way i cant record my guitar please help
[04:07] <vigo> Brian__: Try #ubuntu+1 for Karmic yet?
[04:07] <SlickMcRunFast> hello, Is there a quick way to see all the updates I just installed?
[04:07] <Hansard> does anyone know any simple gui pdf scanners that are like Archivista that aren't 930mb? Doesn't have to be web based.
[04:07] <SlickMcRunFast> like a log file
[04:07] <SlickMcRunFast> or something
[04:08] <ewp> Ben64, funny you say that becuase my xorg.conf has nothing but pretty much a blank configuration and i have compiz enabled with 3d (using radeon) ever since a fresh install
[04:08] <MrFSL> Hansard: not sure of your application but gscan2pdf has some nice pdf/OCR capabilities
[04:08] <Guest96476>  some jack audio driver or application cant start some server  any way i cant record my guitar please help
[04:08] <Ben64> did ubuntu kill xorg.conf in a recent release or something? where i come from, deleting that means console-only
[04:09] <MrFSL> Ben64, yes latest versions of Xorg don't require the same xorg.conf
[04:09] <Hansard> MrFSL: yes, I've tried it.. it embeds the OCR text with the pdf but it adds it like a note (the image of the text is still not selectable).
[04:09] <bastid_raZor> Ben64: in 9.04 xorg.conf is not needed but can be used if written by the user.
[04:09] <Ben64> then how does it work
[04:09] <Cyrano_De> SlickMcRunFast: /var/lib/apt
[04:09] <Tykanire> hi, my name is Tykanire, and i just switched from windows to Linux, i have questions, like how to install a sound driver? can any one help me?
[04:09] <Ben64> it being X
[04:09] <SlickMcRunFast> Guest96476, maybe try #ubuntustudio
[04:09] <SlickMcRunFast> Cyrano_De, thanks
[04:10] <steven_> Noone is answering me in the Kubuntu channel! How do I set up a wireless connection with Kubuntu? It is not detecting the wireless network...someone help me please? That channel is dead.
[04:10] <DasEi> Ben64: thats ageneral fact with newer distros, that they do more in kernel then per modules, slightly faster, harder to configure sometimes
[04:10] <vigo> SlickMcRunFast, here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Audio
[04:10] <Stormx2> Ben64, I've finally got henry to understand apt. Here's his response: <henryhenryhenry> WOW!
[04:10] <MrFSL> Hansard, sorry... that's all I got ;)
[04:10] <Hansard> MrFSL: I'm actually looking for an easy way to implement http://www.exactcode.de/site/open_source/exactimage/hocr2pdf/
[04:10] <darch> My sound stopped working with aplay but totem is working
[04:10] <DasEi> !wireless | steven_  (and I'm not good at that, too)
[04:11] <SlickMcRunFast> Guest96476, (08:10:10 PM) vigo: SlickMcRunFast, here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Audio
[04:11] <Ben64> Stormx2: good work
[04:11] <shawn_> Does anyone know a place to get ATI drivers for Linux?
[04:12] <Cyrano_De> shawn_: ati.com
[04:12] <vigo> !ATI
[04:12] <coaxmt> well, older ones are packaged and in the repos, newer ones from ati
[04:12] <MrFSL> Hansard: looks like a cool ap. Perhaps you can build a good script fontend in bash or perl... but I don't know of GUIs
[04:12] <Tykanire> does anyone know where i can get help with a sound driver? i've never used Linux before
[04:12] <DasEi> shawn_: ati has probs with xorg > 7.3 , the propitarys won't work no more with new xorg
[04:12] <ewp> Ben64, check out my xorg.conf (http://pastebin.com/d442395c) i have compiz working great, glxinfo|grep direct show's a yes and lsmod shows that i have radeon loaded ... i'm confused
[04:13] <SnakDoc> ubuntuzilla create issues when doing system upgrade in other words make issues with ubuntu 9.10
[04:13] <shawn_> DasEi Since when?
[04:13] <Ben64> weird
[04:13] <DasEi> shawn_: hardy
[04:13] <ewp> yea haha
[04:13] <ewp> ubuntu is weird
[04:13] <shawn_> DasEi I had my ATI Graphics card working the other day
[04:14] <ewp> i'd rather have fglrx running but i'm afraid i'll break it :-P
[04:14] <DasEi> shawn_: with an open driver, but not with the firmware under ibex or jaunty, nor ?
[04:14] <barqs> hello, i was using firefox on ubuntu 9.04, however, whenever i go into hotmail and try and download an attachment, it doesn't let me?
[04:14] <vigo> ewp: words to live by, Make a Backup.
[04:14] <vigo> !backup
[04:15] <Hansard> MrFSL: I haven't programmed in about 6 years. I've sent a message to gscan2pdf, see if they want to add the exactimage library to their project. If not then I suppose I'm going to have to stop wasting time on wow and refresh my programming skills.
[04:15] <ewp> vigo, yea i may just backup my xorg.conf and blacklist radeon for the time being just in case
[04:15] <Xodiac13> ewp: hey whats up man
[04:15] <vigo> ewp: That is making sense.
[04:15] <DasEi> shawn_: ati can still be used, but you won't get their real power without suitable drivers
[04:15] <ewp> i like fglrx cus it shows ATI rather than Mesa crap
[04:15] <ewp> hey Xodiac13
[04:16] <ewp> plus it's faster
[04:16] <shawn_> DasEi is there a driver that I can use just to get it to work?
[04:16] <ewp> Xodiac13 knows
[04:16] <ewp> :-)
[04:16] <MrFSL> Hansard, lol... best of luck
[04:16] <Xodiac13> ewp: whats that
[04:16] <ewp> Xodiac13, that fglrx is fuggin awesome
[04:16] <DasEi> shawn_: which ati ? just reconfigure : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:16] <Xodiac13> ewp: hell yeah lol i messed up my ubuntu by trying to install something and now i had to go to the hardware devices again :(
[04:17] <LinuxRox_> i have a firefox question...never been here b4..my master password for web sites seems to have been ganked...since i updated... i cant get to the normal ubuntu forums...i didnt write them down...yeah i know my bad... has any one else found this problem.?
[04:17] <Xodiac13> ewp: i had to do another clean install
[04:17] <ewp> Xodiac13, http://pastebin.com/d442395c that's my xorg.conf and yet i have compiz/3d enabled using the open source mesa libs with radeon module
[04:17] <glick> does anyone know any good portable software build systems? anyone try SCONS or MPC?
[04:17] <DasEi> LinuxRox_: nope, get a new one
[04:17] <shawn_> My ATI card is ATI Radeon X1950 Pro
[04:17] <ewp> Xodiac13, lol need help again?
[04:18] <DasEi> shawn_: same here
[04:18] <LinuxRox_> how do i reset i tried to enter old.. and then a new.. it didnt like it
[04:18] <Xodiac13> ewp: heck yeah so compiz works for you and other programs that work with 3d right hell yeah i want to do it again lol
[04:18] <shawn_> DasEi how did you get yours working
[04:18] <ewp> i run a ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X1400
[04:18] <Xodiac13> ewp: lol please help me
[04:18] <SnakDoc> ubuntuzilla create issues when doing system upgrade in other words make issues with ubuntu 9.10
[04:18] <konbon> Hello everyone. I have an odd question to ask. Is it possible to make a ext3 partition from a ntfs hdd? I have like 100GB's free on a 500GB hdd and want to install ubuntu in it with out having to whipe the whole drive. Is this even possible?
[04:18] <ewp> it's a pos imho
[04:18] <barqs> Does anyone know why this is?
[04:19] <DasEi> shawn_: http://pastebin.com/f40ceba21
[04:19] <LinuxRox_> i dont think u can resize ntfs drives
[04:19] <DasEi> konbon: sure
[04:19] <shawn_> What do I do with that DasEi
[04:19] <Ben64> i thought gparted can now resize ntfs
[04:19] <LinuxRox_> unless there special software out there
[04:19] <MrFSL> konbon: you running vista or xp?
[04:20] <konbon> xp 32 w/ sp3
[04:20] <MrFSL> vista resizes ntfs partitions natively now
[04:20] <Cyrano_De> LinuxRox_: You can resize ntfs drives.  gparted works quite well
[04:20] <MrFSL> gparted does resize ntfs partiitons
[04:20] <DasEi> shawn_: looking up working drivers
[04:20] <LinuxRox_> is there a default password...on firefox master password?
[04:20] <MrFSL> I have resized on Win2003 and XP without issue
[04:20] <shawn_> DasEi what is the thing in pastebin you gave me
[04:20] <konbon> MrFSL: would i be able to do this with an Ubuntu live cd?
[04:20] <Cyrano_De> LinuxRox_: I used it go increase the size of my WinXP virtual machine just last week.
[04:21] <MrFSL> konbon:yes
[04:21] <konbon> or is gparted a windows app?
[04:21] <LinuxRox_> good to know
[04:21] <MrFSL> konbon: from the live CD system > administratrion > partition editor
[04:21] <DasEi> shawn_: a pastebin of the logfile of a 1950 running x fine
[04:21] <MrFSL> backup first as always
[04:21] <Cyrano_De> konbon: gparted is a linux app.  apt-cache search gparted
[04:21] <shawn_> DasEi how can I get mine set up like yours?
[04:21] <konbon> Oh ok
[04:21] <konbon> thats the thing, i dont have another hdd to back up on
[04:21] <n-iCe> is there any way to change the ubuntu menu font colors?
[04:22] <konbon> so, its either make it or break it
[04:22] <MrFSL> konbon: gparted is pretty easy to use - graphical with sliders
[04:22] <konbon> Oh nice
[04:22] <alexnet> Does Ubuntu come with unixODBC?
[04:22] <MrFSL> konbon: burn to DVD?
[04:22] <konbon> so, it will just resize the ntfs and then uppon install, it will show and empty partition that i can make into a ext3?
[04:22] <konbon> i have ubuntu 32 on a cd
[04:23] <Cyrano_De> konbon: always run a filesystem check before and after any resizing operations.
[04:23] <konbon> MrFSL: Oh, i see what you mean.
[04:23] <Ben64> if you try to install ubuntu, it should offer to resize during install process
[04:23] <jazzzz> jDownloader
[04:23] <Ben64> but yeah, what Cyrano_De said, run chkdsk before resizing
[04:23] <konbon> what should i be looking for?
[04:23] <konbon> any type of error ?
[04:24] <Ben64> maybe even a defrag if you really want to be super sure
[04:24] <Cyrano_De> That goes for ANY filesystem resizing.  Ext3, ntfs, xfs....
[04:24] <konbon> i did the defrag yesterday
[04:24] <konbon> Cyrano_De: good idea
[04:24] <konbon> i'll do that now
[04:24] <Cyrano_De> konbon: No you just want to make sure you start with a good clean filesystem.
[04:24] <konbon> and defrag again
[04:24] <LinuxRox_> hmmm since i updated fire fox to 3.0.14 it killed my master password    to my master password proteced sites....none of them like my main  " master password any more... most of them i have wrote down but some i didnt have wrote down... how do i get them back? did it reset the password to a generic password?
[04:24] <Cyrano_De> konbon: GIGO(Garbage in Garbage out)
[04:24] <konbon> Cyrano_De: sounds good
[04:25] <Zykotic-K9> george
[04:25] <konbon> Thanks for the help fellas, really appreciated.
[04:25] <DasEi> shawn_: err, off
[04:26] <konbon> Donated $100 last month to several open source apps like gimp, ardour and cinelerra. This help just motivated me to donate another $100 :)
[04:26] <abunader> hello
[04:26] <konbon> i wish i could give more, but times are rough right now. :)
[04:26] <MrFSL> Cyrano_De: I noticed with Jaunty that windows check disk is automatically called after resize operation
[04:27] <abunader> I want to install Ubuntu for general use on a church computer
[04:27] <abunader> what y'all think?
[04:27] <abunader> its a brand new computer
[04:27] <abunader> an HP
[04:27] <innomen> hey all, anyone happen to know how to make open office or abiword save as xhtml?
[04:27] <MrFSL> abunader: go for it
[04:27] <Ben64> konbon: well that's awesome, tell your friends about Linux too :D
[04:27] <Cyrano_De> abunader: Sounds like a great idea
[04:27] <abunader> comes with windows vista with free upgrade to windows 7
[04:27] <abunader> but they don't have anyone tech savvy except me
[04:27] <abunader> so i want to set it up as a no hassle thing
[04:27] <stephenL89> j dk
[04:27] <MrFSL> abunader: install what the users are used to and can get support on
[04:27] <Ben64> abunader: they might be able to get a refund for the windows license
[04:27] <stephenL89> hello room
[04:28] <MrFSL> install Ubuntu if you plan on supporting it
[04:28] <Ben64> save some money, put ubuntu on it, save time
[04:28] <abunader> and with windows that isnt possible
[04:28] <Cyrano_De> innomen: OOwriter File/export
[04:28] <LinuxRox_> ask the church lady...
[04:28] <abunader> mrfsl what do you mean?
[04:28] <DasEi> !hi | stephenL89
[04:28] <abunader> the thing with windows is, there are these constant upgrades and fixes
[04:28] <MrFSL> abunader: I mean if the Church users are used to Windows ... give them users. If they aren't used to Ubuntu they will need support
[04:28] <abunader> not that ubuntu doesnt have them
[04:28] <Ben64> well there's lots of updates on ubuntu
[04:28] <stephenL89> Im looking to find the love of my life in this room
[04:29] <innomen> Cyrano_De, xhtml is not among the options
[04:29] <stephenL89> lets get cracking
[04:29] <foobiebletch> exorcise windows
[04:29] <Cyrano_De> abunader: There should be constant upgrades on Linux as well.
[04:29] <abunader> i'll give them support but won't be here all the time
[04:29] <MrFSL> abunader: take a poll
[04:29] <abunader> windows has spyware/malware issues
[04:29] <abunader> we need to constantly be updating definitions
[04:29] <abunader> for viruses
[04:29] <abunader> etc..
[04:29] <LinuxRox_> stephenL89> you fix my fire fox master password problem... we can talk
[04:29] <Cyrano_De> innomen: Which version of OO?  On 3.0.1 it is the first export option.
[04:29] <abunader> you know what I mean?
[04:29] <MrFSL> abunader: if anyone cared about spyware or viruses no one would run Windows
[04:29] <stephenL89> lol
[04:29] <stephenL89> alright talk to me.describe your issue
[04:29] <abunader> good one MrFSL
[04:30] <Ben64> MrFSL: they just don't know any better
[04:30] <LinuxRox_> hmmm since i updated fire fox to 3.0.14 it killed my master password    to my master password proteced sites....none of them like my main  " master password any more... most of them i have wrote down but some i didnt have wrote down... how do i get them back? did it reset the password to a generic password?
[04:30] <innomen> Cyrano_De, for me pdf is the first option... same version... this is odd
[04:30] <abunader> The last computer they had
[04:30] <abunader> when I came in
[04:30] <Cyrano_De> abunader: Linux has vulnerabilities as well.  They may not be as easy to expliot, but they should be patched just as much as Windows.
[04:30] <abunader> it was in terrible shape
[04:30] <MrFSL> Ben64, your right but if you want to teach them then you have to support them as well
[04:30] <abunader> they could hardly use it because of all the junk on it
[04:30] <MrFSL> just giving advise
[04:30] <abunader> I want to make it real simple
[04:30] <abunader> they'll use it only for documents/spreadsheets and internet
[04:30] <MrFSL> abunader: sounds like you already have your answer
[04:30] <innomen> Cyrano_De, i think i have it
[04:31] <abunader> so really can't go wrong can we?
[04:31] <innomen> one moment
[04:31] <Cyrano_De> innomen: File/export not File/export as pdf
[04:31] <abunader> Some people were expressing reservations
[04:31] <baba_b00ie> stephenL89, first off irc doesn't have 'rooms' thats an aol thing.. irc has channels, and sorry no love of your life here lol
[04:31] <stephenL89> yes.when you update Firefox all the internal components and settings get reset as well.which taking into hindsight really sucks but can be fixed:]
[04:31] <abunader> just wanted to know what you thought
[04:31] <abunader> in terms of at least problems that would later crop up
[04:31] <MrFSL> abunader: I think that you can't force Linux on folks. WHy not demonstrate from the live cd
[04:31] <Cyrano_De> abunader: You might want to look into kiosk mode
[04:31] <abunader> not the users, but ubuntu itself
[04:32] <beans43> is there a good pdf reader that can export a single page out as a jpeg?
[04:32] <Ben64> abunader: what is the computer for?
[04:32] <abunader> just an office computer
[04:32] <DasEi> abunader: for that, stability, user management, crap-free internet ubu sure is fine
[04:32] <MrFSL> beans43, pdfsam
[04:32] <abunader> the church has an executive board
[04:32] <Ben64> abunader: like what programs though?
[04:32] <LinuxRox_> abunader> free computer support hasa cost.. time and effort..if u feel the time and effort are being fixed..in other ways.. then help out... but i can tell u my sad story... i do free pc work at my job..and they dont care...its become part of my job... sucks some times ..they dont want to hear why its bad...cuz im not the pc guy
[04:32] <abunader> and they get elected every other year
[04:32] <abunader> so the people are constantly changing
[04:32] <abunader> the comptuer gets in for some abuse
[04:33] <stephenL89> to get back to where you were the simplest solution for you would be to downgrade back to your original version or else ask the friendly folks working on the tech staff to help you.Trust me their great
[04:33] <abunader> ben64, they use ms office and firefox now
[04:33] <abunader> mostly
[04:33] <beans43> MrFSL, ok. i apt get it now...
[04:33] <MrFSL> its not in the repos
[04:33] <innomen> Cyrano_De, it wont export from an htm, just fyi.
[04:33] <MrFSL> its a free java download
[04:33] <MrFSL> google pdfsam
[04:33] <abunader> I've installed a bunch of other program just to have windows working right
[04:33] <bucky> MrFSL, pdfsam will make a pdf into a jpeg?
[04:33] <F3d0rA> Is there a Ubuntu 9.04 Live CD KDE or only the desktop for download at this time?
[04:33] <abunader> adaware, avg, pen ninja, etc.
[04:34] <MrFSL> to make into jpeg there are command tools
[04:34] <Cyrano_De> innomen: Interesting.  Maybe save as odf first then export?
[04:34] <MrFSL> gscan2pdf might work for jpeg
[04:34] <Cyrano_De> F3d0rA: kubuntu
[04:34] <beans43> MrFSL, unable to apt-get, broken package , dependencies
[04:35] <F3d0rA> thanks so much.  Can the desktop CD be as live?
[04:35] <innomen> Cyrano_De, copy pasted to a new file, now i'm having problems with the export function itself, first jre whining now cant save to file, i'm tinkiering
[04:35] <MrFSL> beans43, not in the repos google pdfsam
[04:35] <Cyrano_De> F3d0rA: Yes, most of the desktop CDs are live CDs as well.
[04:35] <F3d0rA> thanks again!!
[04:36] <MrFSL> beans43: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfsam/files/pdfsam/1.2.0/pdfsam-1.2.0-out.zip/download
[04:36] <innomen> i hate opemn office
[04:36] <MrFSL> sorry
[04:36] <innomen> Cyrano_De, "file could not be written"
[04:36] <Cyrano_De> innomen: I have not used the xhtml export myself.
[04:36] <MrFSL> I meant: https://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfsam/files/pdfsam/2.0.0/pdfsam-2.0.0-out.zip/download
[04:36] <innomen> open office never works for me under any circumstances
[04:36] <innomen> it always looks like its going to work, and then dosent
[04:36] <beans43> MrFSL, thx
[04:36] <innomen> i think microsoft has spys in there