[15:59] <mdeslaur> \o
[16:00] <pitti> o/
[16:01] <infinity> o/
[16:01]  * stgraber waves
[16:01]  * slangasek waves
[16:01] <slangasek> I think we said it was my turn to chair?
[16:01] <infinity> Did we?
[16:01] <stgraber> we didn't
[16:02] <infinity> I think it's mine, but I'm happy to pass. :P
[16:02] <stgraber> we said that if LP's sorting algorithm was more clever about unicode, it'd be slangasek's turn but instead it's infinity's
[16:02] <slangasek> oh
[16:02] <infinity> #startmeeting Ubuntu Technical Board Meeting
[16:02] <slangasek> ok then :)
[16:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar 31 16:02:30 2015 UTC.  The chair is infinity. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:02] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:02] <infinity> We seem to all be here, even if we're not all paying attention, so that's a plus.
[16:03] <infinity> And a very empty agenda...
[16:03] <infinity> [TOPIC] Review the mailing list
[16:04] <infinity> Which looks rather not interesting since the last meeting.
[16:04]  * pitti wonders if the "Not paying attention" is some kind of "ping again every 2 mins" hint :)
[16:04] <pitti> yeah, no recent green mails in my list folder (green == TB)
[16:04] <infinity> [TOPIC] Community Bugs
[16:04] <infinity> None.
[16:04] <mdeslaur> where's the tech board love? :)
[16:05] <infinity> [TOPIC] AOB
[16:05] <infinity> So, before I go and pick a new chair and close the meeting after two minutes, anything anyone wants to discuss?
[16:05] <infinity> Any forward-thinking stuff we should be proactive about for upcoming months/years that we're always too busy to bother with?
[16:06] <infinity> *crickets*
[16:06] <mdeslaur> zzzzz
[16:07] <infinity> Aaaaaalrighty, then.
[16:07] <stgraber> :)
[16:07] <infinity> [TOPIC] Next Chair
[16:07] <slangasek> nothing that I think currently needs TBing
[16:07] <infinity> Next chair is kees, with a fallback to mdeslaur if kees is a slacker.
[16:07] <mdeslaur> ack
[16:07] <pitti> well, I can think of several things in Ubuntu that I consider broken and needing some love, but I guess those need some time to prepare a proper discussion
[16:07] <infinity> [TOPIC] APB
[16:07] <infinity> pitti: I'm all ears.
[16:08] <pitti> (or are rather political)
[16:09] <infinity> pitti: I think the political/emotional topics are ones we probably need to wade into, though ideally not with the insanity of the systemd/ctte business.
[16:09] <mdeslaur> heh
[16:10] <infinity> pitti: But, yeah, gather your thoughts, lob something at the list (or if it's WAY too political in its current form in your head, to a CC list of TB members for discussion), and let's talk.  These meetings are dull, and we could (and should) be doing more.
[16:10] <infinity> If no one has anything else, then.
[16:10] <infinity> 5
[16:10] <infinity> 4
[16:10] <infinity> 3
[16:10] <infinity> 2
[16:10] <infinity> 1
[16:10] <infinity> #endmeeting
[16:10] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Mar 31 16:10:28 2015 UTC.
[16:10] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting-2/2015/ubuntu-meeting-2.2015-03-31-16.02.moin.txt
[16:10] <pitti> cheers
[16:10] <slangasek> thanks!
[16:10] <mdeslaur> thanks!


[11:17] <Technophil1> Hi, can anyone suggest for me trying to install 10.10 mythbuntu 64 bit onto a working PC but onto a Kingston SATA 16G SSD  that was a frontend  running with a CF / IDE and 9.10 (I think it is)
[11:18] <Technophil1> The install CD runs, display adjusts to 1920x1080 and then hangs
[11:18] <Technophil1> I thought it may be a BIOS issue however various SATA / IDE drive variations make little difference.
[11:19] <Technophil1> I can still run off the IDE / CF card if I can install onto the SSD itself via an older version?
[11:19] <Technophil1> The SSD seems correctly detected.
[11:21] <Technophil1> In anticipation why not install 11.04 - because the server is still running 0.23.1 fine.
[11:24] <Technophil1> An alternative might be to install into the SSD using a Dell D830 which seems to work fine and transfer the SSD across however would some files be missing for the quite different hardware config?
[23:45] <Technophil1> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20077979-94/oracle-and-microsoft-could-cash-in-big-on-android/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20
[23:45] <Zinn> [news.cnet.com] Oracle and Microsoft could cash in big on Android | Wireless - CNET News
[23:45] <Technophil1> Sorry wrong tab...


[04:04] <mlankhorst> morning
[06:03] <tjaalton> yeah
[13:28] <aissen> what you guys are doing with LTS HWE is crazy. Crazy and awesome
[13:29] <aissen> was everything done by hand, or did you have scripts automating the creation of those packages: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-quantal ?
[13:29] <mlankhorst> nope, I'm fairly sure it's just crazy
[13:29] <mlankhorst> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/xorg-server/xorg-pkg-tools/files lts-stack and lts-pkg-rename
[13:30] <aissen> mlankhorst: thanks.
[13:32] <aissen> it seems libxrandr has a different naming scheme: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/libxrandr-ltsq2. Is to have it parallel installable ?
[13:32] <aissen> Is it*
[13:33] <mlankhorst> yeah
[13:33] <mlankhorst> source package still follows same


[00:11]  * sladen drums fingers
[00:15] <sladen> sinzui: could you advise what summary title should be used for bug #449092 such that it can be progressed?
[00:15] <elmo> james_w: hmm, unfortunately, I can't see any obvious problems this time round
[00:17] <james_w> elmo: seems to have fixed itself in the meantime, thanks for looking
[00:20] <elmo> I think it may be LP buildbot DOS-ing the ssh service.  but I may just want it to be that because of the irony.  I'll keep an eye on it for a while anyway
[01:09] <sinzui> sladen: it is not a bug, it is a question. I will use the Convert to question link to ask a LOSA to add an alias for the old project name. I image a Question was used the first time to rename the project
[01:20] <sladen> sinzui: questions have a '?' question mark.  Why does this (bug report) not have a question mark?
[01:21] <sladen> sinzui: how does "ask[ing] a LOSA to add an alias" fix the Launchpad codebase?
[01:23] <sladen> sinzui: if you let me the know the magic phrase that covers the root cause, I can (re-)file a bug report covering that
[01:23] <sinzui> sladen: There is nothing wrong in the code, because in many operations we do not want an alias. We only want an alias if the project asks for one
[01:25] <sladen> sinzui: what phrase succinctly identifies that such an offer should be automatic and by default
[01:28] <sinzui> sladen: we do not support user renaming projects because it is very danger. The screen that allows an admin to rename a project also has a alias field. The admin uses it when someone asks a question
[01:28] <sinzui> sladen: So we are discussing a process where two people must engage each other and talk
[01:31] <sladen> sinzui: is the alias pre-filled with the previous proejct name.  If not, how do I phrase that it should be pre-filled by default in order to prevent previously published URLs rotting
[01:32] <sinzui> It is not, because that is NOT the default behaviour. Most cases to reanme a project is because someone want the name being given up.
[01:33] <sladen> sinzui: how do I phrase that the default behaviour (link breakage) is non-ideal?
[01:37] <sinzui> sladen: I do not see how you. can There is no right answer. We favour this approach because of the most common use case. The example we are using in the bug/question is still one of user communication
[01:40] <sladen> sinzui: so to confirm.  During a rename, the requestee is not explicitly asked if a redirect is required.  Because few requestees explicitly ask for a redirect, the common-case is not to provide one; and therefore the common-case is set as the default?
[01:41] <sinzui> sladen: and the admin did not confirm that an alias was not wanted
[01:42]  * sladen staggers in belief.
[01:42] <sladen> diselief
[01:42] <sinzui> The common case is someone is squating on a name or the name is given to a project group!
[01:43] <sinzui> Renaming a project for other reason is rare and is the reason launchpad supports aliases. gaim's rename to pidgin was the driving need as I recall
[01:44] <sinzui> The problem with automatically aliasing is that the squating is still happening, so the admin has more work to fix the issue
[01:48] <sladen> sinzui: sounds like two separate use-cases.  (a) Projects changing name.  (b) Tackling squatters/vandalism. ; the difference being whether the $old_name is cause of the admin actions, or whether $new_name is the initiator
[01:48] <sinzui> It's the same screen
[01:49] <sinzui> And I do not think malicious is the drive for squating. There is a tremendous amount of ignorance in the pool of launchpad registrants
[01:50] <sinzui> giving users a test to verify they are qualified to be a project maintain seem to be out the question though :(
[01:50] <sladen> so the problem is one of overloading.  A low-impact action performed frequently is masking a high-impact action performed infrequently (Quantity masking Quality)
[01:51] <sinzui> Do you want to fix this? I can review a code change. We do not have much code for workflows so we resort to simple screens
[01:52] <sinzui> This issue is not a priority because we are not inundated with reports of the problem
[01:53] <sladen> sinzui: so, can be agree upon  Confirmed,Wishlist (and a summary of your choosing) over Invalid?
[01:55] <sinzui> I will move the bug launchpad-registry. it will be Triaged,Low We do not used wishlist because that does not indicate when and how it will be fixed
[01:55] <sladen> sinzui: Low would be even better
[01:56] <sinzui> I will report a new bug actually because there is a question tied to the old one
[01:56] <sinzui> Low is just clear. It will be fix opportunistically when an engineer volunteers to work on it
[07:53] <highvoltage> hi launchpadders!
[07:53] <highvoltage> I have a list problem, when I visit https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ngo/+mailinglist-moderate there are 5 messages for moderation
[07:54] <highvoltage> when I click on Moderate, I get a message that says "Unexpected form data"
[07:54] <wgrant> highvoltage: Are you using Chromium?
[07:54] <highvoltage> wgrant: I am indeed, is it a browser issue?
[07:55] <highvoltage> wgrant: well, it worked fine in firefox. thanks
[07:58] <wgrant> highvoltage: It's fixed in recent Chromiums, apparently.
[08:22] <Peng> bazzar.launchpad.net is read-only right now. Trying to take out a right-lock fails, saying it's a read-only transport.
[08:22] <spiv> Any losa around?  There are some reports on #bzr of users getting readonly errors when they try to push to their own branches via bzr+ssh
[08:22] <Peng> Hehe.
[08:22] <Peng> Err, write-lock*
[08:45] <Peng> I just realized I screwed up my test: I tried to lock a mirrored branch. I just tried a normal branch, and it worked.
[08:45] <Peng> So, it looks like this might be luks-only.
[08:46] <Peng> Same with the branch the other user was having a problem with.
[08:46] <Peng> So, no disaster. :D
[08:48] <spiv> For losas checking backlog: false alarm.  phew.  thanks.
[11:55] <szpuni> hi
[11:56] <szpuni> did anybody had any problem with karmic hanging when typing in shell??
[11:57] <spiv> szpuni: #launchpad isn't really the place to ask that.  At a guess #ubuntu is a better venue.
[12:42] <slytherin> Can anyone who is not on vacation help with porting bugs from sourceforge.net to launchpad.net?
[13:12] <slytherin> jamesh: Around? Can you help with bug migration from sourceforge?
[13:46] <sladen> sinzui: do you have the new bug# for "<sinzui> I will report a new bug actually because there is a question tied to the old one"
[14:41] <sinzui> sladen: bug 501525
[15:26] <RenatoSilva> someone please expire bug 452034
[15:26] <RenatoSilva> sorry, not this, but bug 452069
[15:27] <sinzui> RenatoSilva: Auto expiration is not turned on. When bugs reach 60 days on incomplete, I change the bug to invalid myself
[15:28] <RenatoSilva> is just that what the expiration job does?
[15:28] <sinzui> Yes
[15:28] <RenatoSilva> oh
[15:36] <RenatoSilva> thanks, happy new year
[17:33] <ripps> Hello, the developer of a set of programs I supply daily packages for in the gmpc-trunk ppa's wants to know If it's possible to build arm packages in the ppa?
[17:41] <elmo> ripps: unfortunately it's not, no.  (PPAs require virtualization support for security reasons that arm's don't have)
[17:41] <ripps> elmo: I know that some ppa's have an exemption from that rule
[17:42] <elmo> ripps: only internal Canonical ones, AFAIK
[18:24] <EagleScreen> hello
[18:24] <EagleScreen> i try to push/upload a project code to bazaar in my Launchpad account
[18:25] <EagleScreen> i obtain this warning, is it safe to continue? -> http://pastebin.com/d5055968d
[18:25] <EagleScreen> why this warning?
[18:34] <sinzui> EagleScreen: Have you ever connected to bazaar.launchpad.net before. That is the message commonly shown when you first try to connect to an unknown host.
[18:49] <frangor> hi
[18:52] <EagleScreen> thanks sinzui, it was the first time


[00:00] <brandonj> anybody around?
[00:00] <dutchie> brandonj: for a bit, why?
[00:01] <nisshh> im here as well
[00:01] <nisshh> but only for a little whil;e
[00:01] <nisshh> while*
[00:02] <brandonj> just thinking that the meeting scheduled for monday is right in the middle of the work day in many places.  it probably won't be a problem for me, but it might be for others
[00:03] <nisshh> brandonj: thats what i said in my reply
[00:03] <nisshh> brandonj: but its not for me, thats 9pm at night
[00:03] <brandonj> yes, I just saw that
[00:03] <nisshh> yep
[00:03] <nisshh> he is right though
[00:03] <nisshh> we need a meeting REALLY SOON
[00:04] <brandonj> yeah
[00:04] <brandonj> I agree
[00:04] <nisshh> i think alot of us have been REALLY busy lately though
[00:04] <nisshh> not unmotivated
[00:04] <dutchie> nisshh: did you read the ML
[00:04] <dutchie> oh, sorry
[00:04] <dutchie> i had the scrollback covered by supertuxkart
[00:04] <brandonj> hahaha
[00:05] <dutchie> brandonj: well, so far, no-one's responded with any problems
[00:05] <nisshh> hehe
[00:05] <dutchie> and, to be honest, as long as the core 5-6 can make it, i'm not so bothered about the others
[00:06] <nisshh> dutchie: well, im sure the "others" will appreciate that :)
[00:06] <nisshh> to be honest
[00:06] <dutchie> times are tough
[00:06] <nisshh> i miss benjamins frequent motivational speeches
[00:06] <dutchie> 2 months to do lucid-e2 and maverick
[00:06] <dutchie> yeah, me too nisshh
[00:07] <nisshh> dutchie: yea, about that, i think we should shove e2 aside and go straight to e2
[00:07] <nisshh> oops
[00:07] <nisshh> i mean
[00:07] <dutchie> nisshh: i agree
[00:07] <nisshh> straight to maverick
[00:07] <dutchie> but that's to be discussed in the meeting
[00:07] <nisshh> dutchie: yea, because by the time we finish e2, then it needs translating, etc
[00:07] <nisshh> editing
[00:07] <dutchie> yep
[00:08] <nisshh> dutchie: yea
[00:08]  * dutchie does a little research
[00:08] <dutchie> one moment
[00:08] <nisshh> ok
[00:08] <brandonj> for my part that seems like the most sensible thing
[00:09] <dutchie> last ML post longer than a sentence from hbc: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/msg01949.html on thursday 10th of june
[00:11] <nisshh> wow, that was AGES ago
[00:12]  * dutchie is currently grepping IRC logs
[00:12] <nisshh> dutchie: damn, you just made me feel really motivated, now i have to go do something :)
[00:13] <dutchie> nisshh: erm, yay
[00:13] <nisshh> heh
[00:13] <dutchie> wasn't quite my intention
[00:14] <nisshh> dutchie: i easily get motivated, its a curse :)
[00:14] <nisshh> dutchie: nah, i HAVE been doing work, all night infact
[00:14] <dutchie> i've been working hard on my solitaire solver
[00:15] <dutchie> utterly useless, but quite interesting
[00:15] <nisshh> heh
[00:16] <nisshh> dutchie: are you one of those "dammit this game is too hard *starts writing code to skip to the "you won" screen*"
[00:17] <dutchie> no, it's for statistical analsis
[00:17] <dutchie> <-- mathematician
[00:17] <nisshh> hahaha
[00:17] <nisshh> oh, ok, you were serious
[00:17] <nisshh> :)
[00:17] <nisshh> i though that was a joke born from a joke
[00:18] <dutchie> i'm even going to write a very serious blog post when it's done
[00:19] <nisshh> oh ok
[00:19]  * nisshh trys to look sheepish
[01:47] <nisshh> thishumphreybc: whats with your nick?
[01:47] <thishumphreybc> i'm on my netbook :)
[01:48] <thishumphreybc> I saw that email for re-igniting the project / staging a coup
[01:48] <nisshh> thishumphreybc: ah, good was hoping you would before monday
[01:48]  * nisshh was the one planning the takeover
[01:48] <thishumphreybc> I can't come to the meeting though, it's at 3am my time
[01:48] <nisshh> *evil laugh*
[01:49] <thishumphreybc> lol
[01:49] <nisshh> thishumphreybc: how can it be?
[01:49] <nisshh> thishumphreybc: oh
[01:49] <thishumphreybc> it's at 3pm UTC time right?
[01:49] <thishumphreybc> 1500 ?
[01:49]  * nisshh just figured it out with a calc
[01:49] <nisshh> duh
[01:49] <nisshh> yea
[01:50] <nisshh> thishumphreybc: well, since you cant come to the meeting, what do you think we should do about e2 not finished and maverick coming up?
[01:51] <thishumphreybc> well, I think e2 isn't that bad, we fixed a few hundred bugs
[01:51] <thishumphreybc> and unfortunately we can't do much about maverick yet because there's not much to write about
[01:51] <thishumphreybc> hardly anything has changed
[01:52] <nisshh> alot of UI has changed
[01:52] <thishumphreybc> most of it has been under the surface
[01:52] <nisshh> sound menu
[01:52] <thishumphreybc> well a couple of indicator applets
[01:52] <nisshh> memenu
[01:52] <thishumphreybc> and then a new theme eventually
[01:52] <nisshh> software centre
[01:52] <thishumphreybc> sure so we can just edit those sections
[01:52] <nisshh> yea
[01:52] <thishumphreybc> that will maybe take a week
[01:52] <nisshh> but what about removing the last 4 chapters
[01:52] <nisshh> true
[01:52] <thishumphreybc> oh yeah, forgot about htat
[01:52] <thishumphreybc> a meeting would be good
[01:53] <nisshh> read: necessary
[01:53] <thishumphreybc> maybe we should invite some of my haters along too
[01:53] <nisshh> your haters?
[01:53] <brandonj> haters gonna hate
[01:53] <thishumphreybc> yup!
[01:53] <thishumphreybc> i have many of them
[01:53] <thishumphreybc> they're cool
[01:53] <nisshh> who are these haters?
[01:55] <nisshh> thishumphreybc: the big decision we need to make is whether we release e2 then maverick as planned, or we skip e2 and modify it for maverick instead
[01:55] <daker> thishumphreybc, \o/
[01:55] <wastrel> what's e2
[01:55] <thishumphreybc> nisshh: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/dude-youre-35-year-old-with-neck-beard.html
[01:55] <brandonj> lucid edition 2
[01:55] <nisshh> wastrel: edition 2 :)
[01:56] <thishumphreybc> I think we can stick with the plan quite comfortably
[01:56] <nisshh> thishumphreybc: saw that thismorning
[01:56] <daker> IMHO we should skip e2
[01:56] <nisshh> :)
[01:56] <thishumphreybc> anyway, I know i've been a bit absent
[01:56] <thishumphreybc> my own fault
[01:56] <nisshh> yea
[01:56] <nisshh> we have all been busy
[01:56] <thishumphreybc> I don't think the team is at stake though
[01:56] <thishumphreybc> we're still doing fine
[01:56] <nisshh> yea
[01:56] <thishumphreybc> better than the docs team at least :P
[01:56] <nisshh> i agree
[01:57]  * nisshh hopes no one from the docs team reads the logs :)
[01:57] <daker> \o/
[01:57] <brandonj> I think you'll be safe. nisshh
[01:58] <nisshh> brandonj: im more worried about thishumphreybc :)
[01:58] <wastrel> i think i read that same article 10 years ago
[01:58] <brandonj> he's used to haters by now though
[01:58] <brandonj> =P
[01:58] <nisshh> brandonj: yea
[01:59] <thishumphreybc> I have developed a thick skin
[01:59] <nisshh> heh
[02:00] <thishumphreybc> partly due to the cold New Zealand winters
[02:03]  * nisshh watched the new tekken movie thismorning
[06:50] <zkriesse> So meeting in nine hours?
[06:50] <zkriesse> 15:00 UTC right?
[06:50] <zkriesse> Well in a day
[09:11] <thorwil> good morning!
[09:15] <popey> lo
[10:52] <trijntje> Hi all, is anyone present who knows about the problems with the translations of the manual on LP?
[11:14] <thorwil> dutchie, godbyk: would it make sense to write a report of the shortcomings of LP translations, as a kind of master bug report? or do you think the LP team is aware of those issues?
[12:22] <dutchie> thorwil: not sure if a bug report would be the right place
[12:23] <thorwil> dutchie: didn't mean a ticket. but the report should have a similar mindset in being all about getting it fixed
[12:23] <dutchie> yeah, might be handy
[12:24] <thorwil> should be a mail to the LP list (there is a general one?), doubled as blog post
[12:25] <thorwil> dutchie: i can't write the report, as i havn't dealed with that piece of infrastructure at all. but i could bring it to the planet
[12:28] <dutchie> wiki page? etherpad document?
[12:28] <thorwil> etherpad
[12:31] <thorwil> one aspect would be a list of problems, ideally with proposed solutions
[12:32] <thorwil> another aspect, however, is whether LP does what it should and our problems come from using the wrong tool
[12:34] <thorwil> it has to be made clear if improving LP is a valid option, if there is a better (ready) alternative, or if we absolutely need a custom solution
[13:03] <dutchie> thorwil: i think we can/should stick with LP
[13:03] <dutchie> though i think we should persist with these new settings and see if anything breaks
[13:06] <thorwil> dutchie: i have not much of a base for an own opinion there, i just see that there is lots of friction, apparently
[13:08] <dutchie> hopefully the new settings will help
[16:27] <nisshh> hehe
[16:28] <nisshh> a whole bunch of my LoCo friends are offended at benjamins blog post on OMG!, lol
[17:14] <jenkins> there is a thunder bug in my lcd display :/
[20:42] <ChrisWoollard> Hello all
[21:50] <c7p> hello all
[21:51] <jenkins> hey c7p
[21:51] <c7p> so the meeting is tomorrow, right ?
[21:53] <jenkins> yep
[21:54] <c7p> will godbyk make it at that time ?
[21:54] <jenkins> i *think* its about 7am for him
[21:54] <c7p> that's fine
[21:56] <c7p> If the meeting is scheduled for tomorrow, I think there should be a meeting notification/reminder or something on the ML
[21:57] <jenkins> feel free to send one :)
[21:57] <c7p> ok :)
[22:00] <c7p> jenkins: how do you get the link of a ML's mail ?
[22:01] <jenkins> go to the lauchpad team and look through the archives launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual
[22:02] <jenkins> click view archive down the bottom left direction
[22:03] <c7p> jenkins: ty
[22:03] <jenkins> np
[22:13] <godbyk> 1500 UTC is 1000 for me, so I should be able to attend (assuming no one at work calls a more important meeting).
[22:14] <jenkins> anyone got a good suggestion for thunder bugs inside lcd screens?
[22:14] <godbyk> thunder bugs?
[22:14] <jenkins> yea small black bugs
[22:15] <godbyk> isn't it just a dead pixel?
[22:15] <jenkins> no they are moving
[22:15] <jenkins> there is three of them
[22:16] <godbyk> interesting. never heard of 'em.
[22:18] <jenkins> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrips thrip is their proper name aparently
[22:20] <godbyk> dare I ask how they managed to get into your lcd screen?
[22:21] <c7p> mail's subject : "Very important meeting on Monday 9th of August" , is it ok ?
[22:21] <jenkins> yep
[22:22] <jenkins> godbyk: they flew/walked in i guess
[22:22] <jenkins> they get in the pictures in the house in the summer its very anoying
[22:23]  * c7p brb
[22:24] <godbyk> jenkins: how strange. I figured the lcd screens were sealed.
[22:25] <jenkins>  godbyk not well enough apparently
[22:28] <infosoft> jenkins: Maybe it's new Compiz effect? :D
[22:28] <jenkins> infosoft: i could file a bug about it :P
[22:29] <infosoft> Wobbly windows + thunder bugs :)
[22:29] <infosoft> There was one effect in E17 with bugs eating the desktop :D
[22:30] <jenkins> lol
[22:31] <infosoft> But they were only making black holes on the desktop. The effect should be improved so that they would eat icons and etc. :)
[22:32] <jenkins> I am hoping mine will go away tonight and not spend their time eating icons
[22:34] <infosoft> These aren't software bugs, these are computer bugs! LOL :D
[22:34] <jenkins> right I am off to bed as I have to get into the right sleeping pattern ready for placement.
[22:34] <jenkins> lol infosoft
[22:34] <jenkins> night all
[22:34] <c7p> night jenkins
[22:34] <infosoft> You should write bug report to computer manufacturer :D
[22:49] <ChrisWoollard> evening all. How's life.
[22:59] <wastrel> :[