[12:13] <Ze_M> how can i install programs?
[12:13] <Minataku> !adeptfix | sam2
[12:13] <ubotu> sam2: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:13] <Minataku> !install
[12:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[12:13] <Minataku> Er
[12:13] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: haha.... brilliant
[12:14] <Minataku> !apt
[12:14] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:14] <sam2> thank
[12:14] <sam2> s
[12:14] <Minataku> !adept | Ze_M
[12:14] <ubotu> Ze_M: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[12:14] <sam2> so it will pick up where it left off?
[12:15] <Minataku> Dunno
[12:16] <Ze_M> Minataku: using cli?
[12:16] <Minataku> Ze_M: Use !apt or !aptitude for CLI, !adept for GUI
[12:17] <sam2> thanks, that worked
[12:17] <Minataku> apt is pure CLI
[12:17] <Minataku> aptitude is TUI
[12:17] <Minataku> GUI style but in text
[12:17] <Minataku> adept is pure GUI
[12:17] <Ze_M> apt firefox will install firefox?
[12:17] <Gerrit> Hmm. I restarted kdm and now neither my keyboard nor my touchpad seem to be working. Only my mouse is. Strange. I have never seen that before. Restarting X made my keyboard working again, fortunately.
[12:17] <Minataku> Ze_M: apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[12:17] <Ze_M> ok
[12:17] <Ze_M> Minataku: and to update the system through cli?
[12:18] <Gerrit> I need to get used to kubuntu after having used Redhat/Fedora based systems since 2001 (and Suse before that)
[12:18] <Minataku> Dunno that, sorry, let's see if ubotu does
[12:18] <Minataku> !update
[12:18] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[12:18] <Minataku> That _might_ have it
[12:18] <Minataku> Worth a shot
[12:18] <Dragnslcr> Depends what you mean by "update the system"
[12:19] <Ze_M> Minataku: im asking about using apt-get
[12:19] <Dragnslcr> I believe it's apt-get upgrade to install the latest versions of all installed packages
[12:19] <Ze_M> Dragnslcr: thanks
[12:19] <Dragnslcr> Why you'd want to, instead of using Adept, I have no idea
[12:20] <Minataku> CLI is faster and easier
[12:20] <Minataku> Which is faster to delete a file:
[12:20] <BluesKaj> ahh there you are Dragnslcr...need some advice on running that IRC Server script you pointed me to...not being familiar with perl , i wasn't sure what to do
[12:20] <Minataku> A. Open xterm, cd to directory, rm file, hit Ctrl+D
[12:21] <Minataku> B. Open Konq, doubleclick to directory, find icon, right-click, select delete, close Konq, empty trash
[12:21] <Minataku> I warn you, if you say B, it's clue-by-four time
[12:21] <nosrednaekim> B seems a whole lot easier
[12:22] <Minataku> You people are gonna break this thing by the end of the day
[12:22] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: Learn Linux, don't use Windows crutches
[12:23] <Minataku> I haven't used a file manager in literally 2 years
[12:23] <Minataku> GUI _or_ TUI
[12:23] <sam2> tui?
[12:23] <Minataku> Text User Interface
[12:23] <Minataku> ncurses and such
[12:23] <sam2> ahh
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> meaning midnight commander
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: I was joking, of course..
[12:24] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: Heh
[12:24] <Minataku> Well, I didn't hit ya either way, so
[12:24] <Minataku> X3
[12:24] <Minataku> The clue-by-four is thankfully around here better used in a menacing but not violent fashion
[12:24] <Minataku> XD
[12:26] <sam2> thanks for the help, i'm out
[12:26] <Minataku> Later
[12:27] <Ze_M> what package do i need to install to have the command ifonfig
[12:27] <Ze_M> what package do i need to install to have the command ifconfig
[12:27] <Minataku> That should be there by default
[12:27] <Minataku> That's a critical networking tool
[12:27] <Minataku> !ifconfig
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:27] <Minataku> !info ifconfig
[12:27] <ubotu> Package ifconfig does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:27] <Minataku> !network
[12:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:27] <Minataku> Yeah, because wireless is the only kind of network
[12:28] <Minataku> This bot is either valuable or complete sh*t
[12:28] <BluesKaj> !cat5
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cat5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <BluesKaj> heh
[12:28] <Minataku> And it keeps flipping back and forth between it with every friggin' !
[12:29] <Gerrit> I followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad and qsynaptics says Synapics Driver 0.14.6 is installed and x shared memory is accesible (it says "good" twice). However, my Synaptics Touchpad is still not doing anything. I read /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/README.Debian and /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/trouble-shooting.txt.gz as well, and in the latter document, I verified that
[12:29] <arkanabar> Will it seriously mess up KDE if I use the GDM as default display manager?
[12:29] <Gerrit> Ah
[12:29] <Minataku> arkanabar: No
[12:29] <Gerrit> I fixed it
[12:29] <Gerrit> I accidantly turned it off when trying to fix my video mode.
[12:29] <Ze_M> how can i know the ip of a machine?
[12:29] <Minataku> Though that's a really bad DM
[12:30] <yanni_> try that
[12:30] <Minataku> Personally, for single WM/DE systems, xdm is the best
[12:30] <Ze_M> nevermind
[12:30] <Minataku> For multiple WM/DE systems, WDM is very nice
[12:30] <Ze_M> already get it
[12:30] <arkanabar> I'm installing the xubuntu desktop.  It's asking me to select a default DM, and my choices are kdm and gdm.
[12:31] <Minataku> Since neither are tied to any specific idiotic toolkits or libraries other than, I believe, the standard X libs
[12:31] <Minataku> arkanabar: In that case, KDM
[12:31] <Ze_M> is there a package named openssh-server?
[12:31] <Gerrit> Out of curiosity: is there a non-graphical multi-user runlevel in Kubuntu desktop installation?
[12:31] <Minataku> Because GNOME is crap
[12:31] <Ze_M> what is the package name to have sshd?
[12:31] <Minataku> Ze_M: Just OpenSSH, I believe
[12:31] <adaptr> openssh
[12:31] <arkanabar> btw, where/how would I get xdm and/or wdm?
[12:31] <adaptr> openssh-server, if you want sshd
[12:31] <Ze_M> apt-get install openssh ?
[12:31] <Minataku> Gerrit: Check the init.d
[12:32] <adaptr> arkanabar xdm comes with xorg-server, wdm is windowmaker ? so get that
[12:32] <Gerrit> Minataku: Okay.
[12:32] <Gerrit> Another question
[12:32] <Minataku> Or if it doesn't use SysV init anymore, figure out what dumbass system it does use instead :P
[12:32] <ender> anyobne has any idea why dhclient cannot assign an IP address to my wifi adhoc network?
[12:32] <adaptr> Gerrit there is not, disable xdm in a runlevel (say 3) to get one
[12:32] <Minataku> Or make your own runlevel
[12:33] <adaptr> ender because there is no dhcp server running ?
[12:33] <Minataku> Copy over everything from 3 except what launches a DM
[12:33] <ender> but i there is
[12:33] <Minataku> There should be a free one, but the way things tend to be in *buntu, who the hell knows
[12:33] <ender> i have a wired interface eth0 and a wifi eth1
[12:33] <ender> the eth0 gets an ip upon booting
[12:34] <ender> i then set an adhoc wifi connection and dhclient fails to give ip to it
[12:34] <ender> dhclient on eth0 runs smoothly though
[12:34] <mtv> i lost my swap, comp is becoming painfully slow with only 512 mb.  Is there suppose to be a mount point for swap?
[12:34] <adaptr> let's get something straight first: dhclient doesn't give anything to anybody
[12:35] <adaptr> mtv no, run swapon -s to see status, swapon -a to enable all swap partitions defined in fstab
[12:35] <Minataku> mtv: No
[12:35] <ender> then how can i assign an ip to eth1?from some howtos dhclient seems to be the command used
[12:35] <Gerrit> Hmm, why did Kubuntu choose to have the cdrom dependency on by default? Isn't it much more practical to get everything off the internet if possible?
[12:35] <Ze_M> cant find any GUI for nfs
[12:35] <adaptr> ender yes, dhclient gets an IP *from a dhcp server* - the server hands out the IP
[12:35] <Ze_M> in mandriva exists draknfs that is a GUI for nfs like for example exists smb4k for samba
[12:36] <adaptr> ender what command did you run ?
[12:36] <ender> sudo dhclient eth1
[12:36] <adaptr> and your *wireless* interface is actually called *eth1* ? are you positively positive about that ?
[12:36] <ender> I set up the Access point with > sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "ender" mode Ad-Hoc channel 2
[12:37] <adaptr> because I'm willing to bet it isna
[12:37] <ender> it is
[12:37] <xerosis> adaptr: mine is eth1 too
[12:37] <adaptr> damn these kernel changes
[12:37] <Ze_M> is there any web interface to see all kubuntu packages?
[12:37] <adaptr> you mean like packages.ubuntu.com
[12:37] <adaptr> ?
[12:38] <ender> so no idea what the problem might be?
[12:39] <adaptr> look at the dhcp server logs - does it get any requests ?
[12:39] <Ze_M> Minataku: like i thought there is the package openssh-server, without it isnt possible to ssh remotly
[12:40] <Minataku> !info openssh
[12:40] <ubotu> Package openssh does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:40] <Minataku> !sshd
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <Minataku> !ssh
[12:40] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:40] <Minataku> Finally
[12:40] <mtv> when i run swapon -s, it displays nothing.  when i run swapon -a i get /dev/disk/by-uuid/cd78c1af-b384-420a-a272-76edd2e82ccb invalid argument
[12:40] <Minataku> This bot is starting to piss me off
[12:40] <Tm_T> Minataku: and why is that?
[12:40] <Minataku> mtv: Your swap probably lost it's UUID
[12:41] <Minataku> Tm_T: Because it's a more convienent target than the entire distribution
[12:41] <mtv> it was probably due to my upgrade from dapper to fiesty i imagine.  Minataki how do i go about getting the UUID?
[12:41] <Minataku> Which is no doubt the true root of all the troubleds
[12:41] <Minataku> :P
[12:42] <Minataku> mtv: Personally, I'd have it in the fstab by device
[12:42] <Minataku> What's that command, sudo fdisk -l I believe
[12:42] <mtv> for example dev/hda5?
[12:42] <Minataku> That should give up the device name of the swap partition
[12:42] <blekos> when i use kernel 2.6.20-16 386 i have wifi but not dual core support, when i use 2.6.20-16 generic,i have dual core support but no wifi
[12:43] <blekos> could u help me?
[12:43] <Minataku> mtv: The swap partition should be labeled as "Linux swap" under type
[12:44] <Minataku> Unless you're like me who somehow screwed it up >.>
[12:44] <Minataku> Apparantly a Linux swap file can be put on ANY partition
[12:44] <Minataku> Be it Type 0x82 or not
[12:44] <Minataku> lol
[12:45] <mtv> Minataku: i have swap under /dev/hda5.  I run swapon -a still get invalid argument
[12:45] <Minataku> mtv: sudo nano -w /etc/fstab
[12:45] <Minataku> Where you see the UUID cd78c1af-b384-420a-a272-76edd2e82ccb, change that whole first part before the whitespace to /dev/hda5
[12:46] <mtv> i did
[12:46] <Minataku> Now save the file
[12:46] <Minataku> And try swapon -a again
[12:46] <mtv> i already did all that
[12:46] <Minataku> In that case
[12:46] <Minataku> swapon /dev/hda5
[12:46] <Minataku> If THAT fails, remake the swap file with mkswap /dev/hda5
[12:47] <Minataku> It's possible it used the swapfile as a temporary partition and never put it back
[12:47] <mtv> right on Minataku
[12:48] <mtv> swap is not working.  Which is great
[12:48] <mtv> now
[12:48] <Minataku> Sweet
[12:49] <mtv> is there a manual anywhere with all the commands?  With a some detail and a guide for trouble shooting
[12:50] <Minataku> man -k blah
[12:50] <Minataku> The manual pages are an incredible resource
[12:50] <mtv> yes, i would just like it in print though.  I do love the man pages though
[12:50] <Minataku> That command will return any manual pages with "blah" in the name or descriptio
[12:50] <Minataku> Heh
[12:50] <Minataku> Like the old Unix Programmers Manual
[12:50] <Minataku> From V7 and such X3
[12:51] <mtv> i will do a search for those
[12:51] <Minataku> No, no
[12:51] <Minataku> That won't help you in Linux
[12:51] <mtv> i see.
[12:51] <wolferine> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[12:51] <Minataku> It'd only help you in Version 7 of AT&T UNIX
[12:51] <Minataku> XD
[12:51] <wolferine> how can I resolve this?
[12:52] <Minataku> mtv: There's no print manual for Linux
[12:52] <mtv> oh, well i guess it wouldnt help me.
[12:52] <Minataku> It'd probably be far too heavy and cumbersome to use
[12:52] <Minataku> Nah, the print manual for V7 Unix wouldn't help ya unless you had a PDP-11 or something
[12:52] <Minataku> X3
[12:52] <mtv> you may be right.    I really want learn what makes linux tick.  That way i can help people a little better.
[12:57] <mtv> my first experience with linux was in college with mandrake 8
[12:57] <Minataku> Heehee
[12:57] <Minataku> Yeah, Gentoo is definitely what you want
[12:57] <Minataku> It doesn't shield you from any of the workings
[12:58] <mtv> that is what i heard
[12:58] <Minataku> *buntu welds the hood shut, Gentoo has the racing-style hood where you open it by pulling out a couple metal clips :3
[12:58] <mtv> that is a nice way of putting it
[12:59] <Minataku> Heehee, thank you ^^
[12:59] <Minataku> Really I've just been playing Forza Motorsport 2 for the last week and a half
[12:59] <Minataku> XD
[12:59] <mtv> nice, yeah i havent played my 360 for two weeks since it got banned
[01:00] <Minataku> Ouch, now why were you chipping it anyway?
[01:00] <mtv> same reason i chipped my original xbox, to have xbmc.
[01:01] <Minataku> Heh
[01:01] <mtv> still waiting for something like that to come out for 360
[01:01] <Minataku> You know the XB360 I believe can link to a Linux box using Samba
[01:01] <Minataku> No mods needed
[01:01] <Minataku> Dunno if it's true, but it sounds feasible
[01:02] <mtv> really? i will look into that.  I am really eager to play my hd h264 encodes.  original xbox chokes on that
[01:02] <Minataku> Heh
[01:02] <Minataku> AFAICT, WMV only
[01:02] <Minataku> According to Free60
[01:02] <mtv> well yep basically
[01:02] <Gerrit> What does it mean if a package is greyed out in Adept Installer? (Sun Java 6 Web Start (32 bit))
[01:02] <mtv> i dont even get near wmv
[01:02] <Minataku> Same here
[01:02] <animimotus> hi
[01:03] <Minataku> I _can_ encode to it with ffmpeg
[01:03] <Minataku> I tested that out to see if I could convert an FLV to watch it on my 360
[01:03] <Minataku> I _can_ but it looks like ass
[01:03] <mtv> haha, yeah i hate re-encoding
[01:03] <mtv> everything looks like crapola
[01:03] <Minataku> Since it enlarges to the size of the screen when it's really low quality because I just grabbed them off of adultswim.com
[01:04] <animimotus> someone know why wildcards doesn't work in tar command ? like: sudo tar xjvf *.tar.bz2
[01:04] <Minataku> animimotus: It should
[01:04] <Minataku> If the FLV loads in, you can pluck it out of /tmp
[01:04] <Minataku> Granted, I've tested this only on ASV
[01:04] <mtv> hmmmm....i have never thought about that.  I just have used firefox plugins to nab flv
[01:05] <animimotus> Minataku: ?
[01:05] <animimotus> sorry I haven't understand
[01:10] <trakinas> hello all
[01:10] <Minataku> animimotus: It should work
[01:10] <Gerrit> Is the list in adept complete, or are there (many) more packages available?
[01:10] <Minataku> !repos
[01:10] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:10] <animimotus> Minataku: sure but it don't :\
[01:10] <Minataku> animimotus: Maybe *buntu compiles theirs some dumbass way
[01:10] <Minataku> What's the error?
[01:10] <Gerrit> Minataku: ok, thanks
[01:10] <Minataku> Gerrit: np
[01:10] <trakinas> i still have problems to acess any dvd data disk on my device. it mounts and list files okay, but when opening a file or coping to the desktop i get i/o errors.
[01:10] <animimotus> Minataku: http://pastebin.com/931001
[01:10] <Minataku> animimotus: Could you translate that? XD
[01:10] <animimotus> Minataku: it gives errors...
[01:10] <Minataku> Yeah, but I don't speak French
[01:10] <animimotus> not in the second complete command...
[01:10] <animimotus> Minataku: it's a bash problem :)
[01:10] <Minataku> I can tell they're errors then it complains about them
[01:10] <Gerrit> Hmm, gnumeric is in "science" and not in "office". Funny.
[01:10] <Minataku> Well, there's only six of 'em
[01:10] <Minataku> Just untar then manually XD
[01:10] <animimotus> Minataku: it's for a script...
[01:11] <Minataku> animimotus: You can have a bash script read in each file name into an array or list and have it work them manually
[01:12] <Minataku> You know, it may very well NOT work when there's multiple files
[01:13] <Minataku> I know wildcards work when there's one
[01:13] <Minataku> You may have to do the list idea
[01:13] <Minataku> As for how to get a list, "ls -1" is a great way to get a machine-usable listing
[01:14] <Minataku> I use it for my... ahem... porn directory, the one with too many files in it to use just an asterisk when I want to view them all in the framebuffer
[01:14] <Minataku> lol
[01:14] <Minataku> If I use *, I get "command line too long" or whatever
[01:14] <wolferine> i am setting up nfs, I have it working from one system, but when I try and access /home/user on my other system. I receive ' mount server:/home/user/ failed, reason given by server: Permission denied'
[01:14] <Gerrit> xargs
[01:14] <animimotus> Minataku: find *.tar.bz2 -exec sudo tar xjvf {} \;
[01:14] <Minataku> So I have to put them all into a list then load the list into fbi
[01:15] <Minataku> animimotus: Sure, that'll work, I guess
[01:15] <animimotus> I guessed me too ^^
[01:15] <Minataku> The find command pisses me off, ever since this idiotic assignment based on using it
[01:15] <animimotus> sorry for the brainstorming
[01:15] <Minataku> animimotus: It's okay
[01:16] <Minataku> Good to flex the headmuscle every once in a while
[01:16] <Minataku> X3
[01:16] <animimotus> thx and have a nice day
[01:16] <Minataku> You too
[01:16] <animimotus> headmuscle, I note ^^
[01:16] <Minataku> Heehee
[01:16] <wolferine> [127223.921131]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known. <-- how do I get rid of these types of lines in dmesg?
[01:17] <Minataku> wolferine: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known.
[01:17] <wolferine> that doesnt work
[01:17] <wolferine> im guessing I need to setup my keyboard keys?
[01:17] <Minataku> Or figure out what key(s) 0xE059 is and stop pressing it (them)
[01:18] <wolferine> Minataku, ill wait for someone who knows a bit about it, but thanks for trying
[01:18] <Minataku> I get that once in a while, it seems to be a completely random event on my system
[01:22] <Minataku> wolferine: Seriously, figure out what key or key combination makes 0xE059
[01:22] <Minataku> It's a keyboard scancode
[01:22] <Minataku> It doesn't map to anything Linux knows
[01:22] <Minataku> You either need to map it to something or stop pressing it
[01:22] <wolferine> Minataku, i thanked you already
[01:22] <Gerrit> How do I find out what package provides /usr/sbin/cupsd ? In other words, what's the equivalent of 'rpm -qf' for debian packages?
[01:22] <Minataku> wolferine: You brushed me off
[01:22] <Minataku> !apt
[01:22] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:22] <Minataku> Try that howto, maybe
[01:22] <Gerrit> dpkg won't do it?
[01:22] <Minataku> It might
[01:22] <Minataku> !dpkg
[01:22] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[01:22] <Gerrit> I didn't find it in http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/12/concise-apt-get-dpkg-primer-for-new.html
[01:22] <Minataku> Just check the manual pages, screw this bot
[01:22] <Minataku> Try "man dpkg"
[01:22] <Minataku> That SHOULD give you a whole synopsis of every option
[01:22] <Gerrit> Yes
[01:22] <Gerrit> -S seems to be the closest equivalent
[01:22] <Minataku> Whether or not it does around here, who know
[01:22] <Minataku> d
[01:22] <Minataku> *s
[01:22] <Minataku> wolferine: You blew me off in a rather rude manner, implying that I knew nothing about it
[01:22] <Gerrit> Ok.
[01:22] <wolferine> Minataku, milk it all you want
[01:22] <wolferine> ill ask someone else
[01:22] <Gerrit> (to have cups is rather silly for me, for I don't have access to a printer)
[01:22] <Minataku> Someone want to remove this troll?
[01:22] <Minataku> Gerrit: Heh
[01:22] <Minataku> It's probably going to be tied into something else
[01:22] <Minataku> What I like to call "dumbass dependencies"
[01:22] <Minataku> You really seem to know what you're doing too, so why Kubuntu, Gerrit?
[01:24] <Minataku> Gerrit? You still there?
[01:25] <vaidas> what the hell: libwine: Depends: wine but it is not installable?
[01:25] <vaidas> how do I install wine on kubuntu then?
[01:25] <Minataku> vaidas: Install the main package and let it pull dependencies
[01:25] <vaidas> how?
[01:25] <Minataku> Or is that what's failing?
[01:25] <Minataku> Hm
[01:25] <Minataku> Try "sudo apt-get install wine"
[01:26] <Gerrit> Minataku: I'm still there
[01:26] <Minataku> You really seem to know what you're doing too, so why Kubuntu, Gerrit?
[01:26] <vaidas> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:26] <vaidas> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:26] <vaidas> is only available from another source
[01:26] <trakinas> I just want to have my device working. =(( ... i pretty sure it is the way kubuntu acess it... which lib is responsible for it?
[01:26] <Gerrit> Because of the hardware detection
[01:26] <Gerrit> I was in a hurry and needed a working system on my notebook
[01:26] <Minataku> Gerrit: Ah
[01:26] <trakinas> vaidas: apt-cache search wine
[01:26] <Minataku> Well, when you have time, definitely look into Gentoo
[01:27] <evsophomore2009> Can someone help me downlaod and install Adobe Flash Player FRoM the website
[01:27] <Gerrit> Fedora Core 7 didn't properly configure my video (notebook Radeon X700 widescreen)
[01:27] <trakinas> Minataku: Im almost going back to gentoo, btw. :/
[01:27] <Minataku> vaidas: Have you enabled all the !repositories ?
[01:27] <evsophomore2009> im not using firefox, mozilla, or seamonkey, im using Konqueoro
[01:27] <Minataku> trakinas: You should, if you know what you're doing
[01:27] <Minataku> evsophomore2009: AFAIK, no Flash in Konq
[01:27] <Gerrit> Minataku: Gentoo is the one where everything is self-compiled, isn't it?
[01:27] <vaidas> I use kubuntu, how do I enable the repositories?
[01:27] <Minataku> Gerrit: Right
[01:27] <wimpies> does anybody know if there is a 2.2.1 package for Openoffice around ?
[01:27] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: they have instructions there.
[01:27] <evsophomore2009> Minataku: ADAIK?
[01:27] <Minataku> !repositories | vaidas
[01:27] <ubotu> vaidas: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:27] <Minataku> evsophomore2009: As Far As I Know
[01:28] <trakinas> Gerrit: yep.
[01:28] <evsophomore2009> oOo i see
[01:28] <Minataku> !openoffice
[01:28] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[01:28] <Minataku> !info openoffice.org
[01:28] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.0-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB
[01:28] <evsophomore2009> Trakinas: they have instrcutions where?
[01:28] <Minataku> Nope, Only a patched 2.2.0-1ubuntu3
[01:28] <Minataku> Whatever the hell the patches do, who knows
[01:28] <wimpies> patched might also do the trick
[01:28] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: in the package you will download. but Im not sure flash will work on konq.
[01:29] <Minataku> wimpies: Try it out, I guess
[01:29] <Minataku> If not, try a better distro :P
[01:29] <evsophomore2009> is it possible to download Internet Explorer?
[01:29] <wimpies> where can I find the patched package ?
[01:29] <Gerrit> What advantage would it have for me to use Gentoo?
[01:29] <Minataku> wimpies: Just install it
[01:29] <Minataku> Gerrit: Everything compiled to your exact system and specifications
[01:30] <Gerrit> Hmm, it must take a week to install then.
[01:30] <vaidas> for some reason I have a much simpler adept than in the page
[01:30] <Minataku> Gerrit: 14hrs on a laptop from 2003
[01:30] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: installing flash on konq is kind of tricky. have you looked on google about flash on konqueror?
[01:30] <Minataku> Your mileage may vary
[01:30] <Minataku> If it's a newer system, expect less time
[01:30] <wimpies> I have 2.2.0-1ubunt3 installed already but have this annoying 'recover' bug which seems to be patched according to the debian bug list but I need to patched packaged version ...
[01:30] <trakinas> Minataku: what mileage means? =P
[01:30] <Gerrit> Ok
[01:30] <wimpies> apt-get does seem to return the one i already have
[01:30] <evsophomore2009> Trakinas: well im not very good with Kubuntu and the command line, im kinda new, so if its not easy i cant do it
[01:30] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: you can.
[01:31] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: just look for it on google first.
[01:31] <Minataku> wimpies: It's possible there is no such patch yet in the *buntu version
[01:31] <revvltn> hi
[01:31] <revvltn> where does Kubuntu keep the packages?
[01:31] <trakinas> youtube works on konq here.
[01:31] <revvltn> and does it remove them afterwards?
[01:31] <revvltn> thanks
[01:31] <wolferine> [127223.921131]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known. <-- how do I get rid of these types of lines in dmesg?
[01:31] <revvltn> I'd appreciate anyone helping me
[01:31] <trakinas> revvltn: yes it does. read about apt-get to find out where it does keep the packages
[01:31] <Minataku> trakinas: It's a saying from American commercials for cars, when they quote the fuel efficiency, they give the most optimal numbers and disclaimer it with "Your mileage may vary"
[01:32] <trakinas> ah
[01:32] <trakinas> danke shoen
[01:32] <evsophomore2009> Trakinas: i installed WINE
[01:32] <wimpies> Minataku : ... sad ... any idea when the upgrade could become available or what should be done to get it
[01:32] <revvltn> trakinas: why should I read, can't you tell me?
[01:32] <Minataku> wolferine: I already told you how, if you don't want to believe me, go away.
[01:32] <evsophomore2009> Trakinas: i want internet explorer, what optiob do i choose to download?
[01:32] <Minataku> revvltn: This is Linux now.
[01:32] <evsophomore2009> it says Windoes XP, Vista
[01:32] <Minataku> You read to learn things
[01:32] <Minataku> People don't do things for you
[01:32] <Gerrit> Two years ago, I spent a week to get everything working on my notebook: Touchpad, ACPI, video, sound and microphone all did not work out-of-the-box with Fedora Core 4. Now, ACPI, video and sound do work out-of-the-box with Kubuntu, touchpad required a few touches and I haven't tested my mic yet. I'm happy that most of it works, and I don't know if it will on Gentoo
[01:33] <wolferine> Minataku, u have been added to my ignore
[01:33] <Minataku> wolferine: As if I care, you were ignoring me before
[01:33] <Minataku> What's different now?
[01:33] <revvltn> Gerrit: before all other distros everything works first on Gentoo
[01:33] <revvltn> so I am afraid you waisted 2 years for nothing
[01:34] <Minataku> With Gentoo you can have absolutely cutting edge
[01:34] <Gerrit> revvltn: What causes that?
[01:34] <Gerrit> Well, cutting edge means unstable too...
[01:34] <Gerrit> or does it?
[01:34] <Minataku> Gerrit: Not at all
[01:34] <Gerrit> Hmm.
[01:34] <Gerrit> I might have a look into it
[01:34] <Minataku> Hardly is there ever a problem in the latest things
[01:34] <revvltn> Gerrit: go to #gentoo, you'll get first hand experience there
[01:34] <Minataku> Typically the latest stuff is very unstable on distros like *buntu because slight changes anywhere cause the whole simplified system to collapse
[01:35] <Minataku> Into a smoldering heap of rubbish
[01:35] <Minataku> Not that it's far from one in the first place
[01:35] <evsophomore2009> !wine
[01:35] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:39] <Minataku> revvltn: The packages, if kept, would probably be in /var somewhere
[01:39] <revvltn> is it this one? /var/cache/apt/archives/
[01:39] <Minataku> !adeptfix
[01:39] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:39] <Minataku> revvltn: That would be a good place to look
[01:39] <Minataku> Possibly /var/lib/dpkg as well
[01:39] <nzk> Which is better: GNOME or KDE?
[01:39] <revvltn> oh man
[01:39] <Minataku> revvltn: They in there?
[01:39] <Minataku> nzk: Neither
[01:39] <Minataku> But of the two, KDE
[01:39] <revvltn> then there's a mismatch between man apt-get and the real dir?
[01:39] <trakinas> Gerrit: my dvd drive works on gentoo but not here
[01:39] <Gerrit> trakinas: Right
[01:39] <vaidas> I do have all the repositories enabled, but I can't find wine, only libwine and libwine-dev
[01:39] <Minataku> revvltn: It could be that the boob in charge of the apt-get manual page goofed up
[01:39] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: download netscape plugin
[01:39] <Minataku> Or it hasn't been updated in ?????
[01:39] <trakinas> DONT USE IE
[01:39] <trakinas> hheuee
[01:39] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: you install netscape/mozilla plugin for linux
[01:39] <trakinas> konqueror use those plugins to work with flash.
[01:39] <Minataku> revvltn: Look where you found them, if they're not where it says they are, then ignore it and keep looking where they are ;3
[01:39] <revvltn> w00t this is confusing
[01:39] <Gerrit> I refrained from updating my FC4 system until now because of the philosophy "If it aint broken, don't fix it". My configuration was working fine, and I didn't see a reason to change. The same could be said now
[01:39] <Minataku> revvltn: If they're in a different place, assume the manual page has an error
[01:39] <Minataku> It's not a mismatch, it's a mistake
[01:39] <Minataku> It happens
[01:39] <Minataku> lol
[01:39] <Minataku> Gerrit: Heh
[01:39] <evsophomore2009> Trakinas: i cant use Mozilla, Firerox, Netscape, Opera, Seamonkey...only Konq
[01:39] <Minataku> Gerrit: I prefer "If it ain't broken, take it apart and fix it"
[01:39] <evsophomore2009> because for some reason they ALL close ever 10 secs basically
[01:39] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: no. you will use the PLUGIN
[01:39] <trakinas> not the browser
[01:39] <revvltn> LMAO@voiding the warranty
[01:39] <Minataku> evsophomore2009: I remember that. You never told me what the error was when it closed.
[01:39] <Minataku> Did you even try?
[01:39] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: you get the plugin for netscape/mozilla.
[01:39] <Minataku> I knew I saw your nick before
[01:39] <francesco_> !it
[01:39] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:40] <revvltn> any cool guy running Ubuntu in LVM ?
[01:40] <Minataku> I just couldn't remember what your problem was
[01:40] <evsophomore2009> Minataku: oh yeah!!! I got the closing error, let me find it
[01:40] <Minataku> Ah, cool
[01:40] <abulo> alguien sabe el canal en espaol?
[01:40] <Minataku> !es | abulo
[01:40] <ubotu> abulo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:40] <vaidas> I do have all the repositories enabled, but I can't find wine, only libwine and libwine-dev
[01:41] <Minataku> vaidas: Weird.
[01:41] <revvltn> what partition are meaningful with Kubuntu? /urs /var /home swap /opt
[01:41] <Minataku> revvltn: I use /boot swap and /
[01:41] <Minataku> Not counting partitions on an external drive
[01:41] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: open Adept (alt+f7 and type adept, then enter)
[01:41] <vaidas> ok then, how do I install the restricted video drivers?
[01:42] <Minataku> !ati
[01:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:42] <trakinas> on search field: flashplugin-nonfree
[01:42] <evsophomore2009> Minataku:
[01:42] <evsophomore2009> The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.
[01:42] <evsophomore2009> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[01:42] <Minataku> Eep
[01:42] <revvltn> Minataku: /boot??? are you kidding me right?
[01:42] <evsophomore2009> The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
[01:42] <evsophomore2009>   (Details: serial 120 error_code 8 request_code 144 minor_code 3)
[01:42] <Minataku> revvltn: I use Gentoo
[01:42] <Minataku> Like hell I'd use *buntu
[01:42] <evsophomore2009>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
[01:42] <evsophomore2009>    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
[01:42] <evsophomore2009>    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
[01:42] <evsophomore2009>    option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
[01:42] <evsophomore2009>    backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.
[01:42] <evsophomore2009> i know i know sorry
[01:42] <revvltn> Minataku: so... still you can't have /boot on LVM
[01:43] <trakinas> Minataku: so, you are kind of saying: broda, come back to gentoo word! emerge moo forever!
[01:43] <Minataku> trakinas: Heh
[01:43] <Minataku> I'm saying I'd be tearing my hair out if I used *buntu
[01:43] <Gerrit> Hmm
[01:43] <Minataku> So much so that I'd be tearing out more than the hair on my head, because I'd rip myself bald
[01:43] <evsophomore2009> Minataku: did you read the problem
[01:43] <trakinas> Minataku: Im almost bold because my drive simple does not work here. :/
[01:44] <Minataku> evsophomore2009: Yeah, something is pretty well screwed
[01:44] <revvltn> trakinas: that's so getting old, nowadays with 2 cores and 4 cores comming, will be the age of Gentoo
[01:44] <evsophomore2009> Minataku: so you cant help?
[01:44] <Minataku> evsophomore2009: No, I can't help with that, I'm sorry
[01:44] <revvltn> Minataku: I am tearing my hair out trying to get / in LVM with Kubuntu
[01:44] <Minataku> That's a pretty bad error situatiob
[01:44] <Minataku> *situation
[01:44] <evsophomore2009> Trakinas: can you help at all?
[01:44] <trakinas> revvltn: yay! so, next week, gentoo will became, again, the main system here. I can live with the loooong emerge waitings...
[01:44] <revvltn> it's being a week and I only found a ufly workaround
[01:44] <Minataku> Something on your system seems screwed up
[01:45] <revvltn> copy and paste / aftwerwards
[01:45] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: try re-installing firefox.
[01:45] <Minataku> trakinas: I can use all my other programs while compiling
[01:45] <evsophomore2009> Trakinas: done that 3 times
[01:45] <mtv> i am trying to get sound.  7.04 recognizes my sound card, as it did with dapper.  I had sound with dapper, no sound with 7.04.  Where should i begin to look.  I already looked and made sure alsa-mixer was setup correctly
[01:45] <Minataku> Very minimal impact
[01:45] <Minataku> And my system is almost 4 years old now
[01:45] <revvltn> trakinas: aren't you listening? with an intel dual core emerge let's say firefox teakes like 3 minutes
[01:45] <trakinas> Minataku: what i meant is: i want to install an app because i need to use it on that momment... buuuuuuuuuuut emerge isnt that quick. :/
[01:46] <draik> How do I change my KDM theme?
[01:46] <Minataku> trakinas: You can find and pop in a binary for temporary use
[01:46] <trakinas> revvltn: ah! but what about tose with 512mb and semprons?
[01:46] <trakinas> ;]
[01:46] <Minataku> There ARE binary repositories for Gentoo, I believe
[01:46] <shatteredskye> hey all- My Western Digital WDG1U2500 external USB hard drive isn't recognizing when i plug it in
[01:46] <shatteredskye> any ideas?
[01:46] <revvltn> trakinas: then it's not Gentoo's fault
[01:46] <trakinas> Minataku: but i never found them. =(
[01:46] <revvltn> ok I am about to bounce
[01:46] <evsophomore2009> So im pretty much screwed out of a good web browser?
[01:46] <trakinas> revvltn: i know. i never complained about gentoo
[01:46] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Does it have power too?
[01:46] <trakinas> i love gentoo.
[01:47] <Minataku> evsophomore2009: It looks like you might be. File a bug on it, though.
[01:47] <Minataku> Or rather, check if one exists first
[01:47] <evsophomore2009> how?
[01:47] <revvltn> and get LVM for once and for ALL!!
[01:47] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Please respond only in channel
[01:47] <revvltn> so what's up with Gentoo users in Kubuntu forums?
[01:47] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: Im kind of busy now and cant help. :/
[01:47] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Check dmesg, "dmesg | tail"
[01:47] <evsophomore2009> Trakinas: okay
[01:47] <trakinas> i have to go, folks.
[01:47] <trakinas> cheers!
[01:48] <Minataku> revvltn: I like to give the advanced Linux edge to the help in here
[01:48] <Minataku> Though Kubuntu's forced simplicity constantly frustrates me
[01:48] <revvltn> mm... I see
[01:48] <shatteredskye> Minataku: sry, i'm a noob, I don't really know what that means
[01:48] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, try this page there a re several here that may work : http://linux.about.com/od/softbrowser/Linux_Software_Web_Browsers.htm
[01:48] <revvltn> Minataku: so far I haven't experience simplicity here at all
[01:48] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Type it into a Konsole session
[01:49] <shatteredskye> Minataku: oh ok
[01:49] <Minataku> revvltn: It "just works", that's the simplicity
[01:49] <draik> How do I remove the usage of GNOME from my session types? I did   'sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove ubuntu-desktop' and it is still there.
[01:49] <revvltn> I'd rather follow cli instructions that work than GUI install the nobody knows how to help
[01:49] <Minataku> Of course, anything beyond using it for everyday tasks is a pain in the ass
[01:49] <Minataku> revvltn: Exactly, because people like us know what we're doing
[01:49] <shatteredskye> Minataku: want me to paste results?
[01:49] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Sure
[01:50] <revvltn> Minataku: I would have to create  an initr image to boot LVM into root
[01:50] <revvltn> Minataku: will that  be hard?
[01:50] <revvltn> Minataku: how does that work in untu?
[01:50] <Minataku> revvltn: I've never used LVM, sorry
[01:50] <Minataku> !lvm
[01:50] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:50] <revvltn> oh man, the you can't call yourself a Gentoo user
[01:50] <revvltn> sorry
[01:50] <Minataku> Try that second one
[01:50] <shatteredskye> Minataku:
[01:50] <Minataku> revvltn: I don't need LVM
[01:50] <shatteredskye> [135827.108000]  sdb: Write Protect is off
[01:50] <Minataku> I have no use for it
[01:50] <shatteredskye> [135827.108000]  sdb: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
[01:50] <shatteredskye> [135827.108000]  sdb: assuming drive cache: write through
[01:51] <revvltn> Minataku: being there, don't help
[01:51] <shatteredskye> [135827.108000]  SCSI device sdb: 488397168 512-byte hdwr sectors (250059 MB)
[01:51] <shatteredskye> [135827.108000]  sdb: Write Protect is off
[01:51] <shatteredskye> [135827.108000]  sdb: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
[01:51] <shatteredskye> [135827.108000]  sdb: assuming drive cache: write through
[01:51] <shatteredskye> [135827.108000]   sdb: sdb1
[01:51] <shatteredskye> [135827.116000]  sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sdb
[01:51] <shatteredskye> [135827.116000]  sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
[01:51] <revvltn> wtf?
[01:51] <Minataku> Aaargh, don't paste in here
[01:51] <evsophomore2009> =/ there ALL Mozilla Based!!!
[01:51] <ICM> Whenever I log out, then log back in, I have no cursor.  I mean, when I hover over something, I can see the light shadow or something, so I know my mouse is being moved around and stuff-- but I canont see the actual pointer/cursor/whatever you call it
[01:51] <Minataku> Anyway, the disk _IS_ recognized
[01:51] <ICM> I had this problem in Gentoo aswell, and never got it resolved
[01:51] <Minataku> So there's no problem there
[01:51] <revvltn> ok, ICM what problem?
[01:51] <shatteredskye> Minataku: sry, I asked, and I thought u said it was ok?
[01:52] <Minataku> shatteredskye: You have to use the pastebin
[01:52] <Minataku> !pastebin
[01:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:52] <Gerrit> My video is working, except during the boot phase.
[01:52] <shatteredskye> Minataku: ok thanks, & sry
[01:52] <ICM> revvltn basically I see no cursor
[01:52] <ICM> I don't see the pointer
[01:52] <Minataku> shatteredskye: It's okay
[01:52] <alex> hi
[01:52] <alex> i am new
[01:53] <revvltn> alex: you mean noob
[01:53] <draik> Hello, alex.
[01:53] <alex> and i dont know how to make install
[01:53] <alex> for exampl flash
[01:53] <Minataku> !adept
[01:53] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[01:53] <Minataku> There ya go, alex
[01:53] <draik> revvltn: Why not just... ehh, nevermind
[01:54] <shatteredskye> Minataku: u said the disk is recognized?
[01:54] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Yeah, the kernel is okay with it
[01:54] <Minataku> It's there and ready
[01:54] <Minataku> Is it using NTFS by chance?
[01:54] <shatteredskye> Minataku: I guess I'm just used to a window popping up when I plugged in USB flash drives, etc.
[01:54] <draik> alex: In the terminal, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[01:54] <ICM> So is there any help for me ever?
[01:54] <Minataku> shatteredskye: I believe KDE puts an icon on the desktop for it
[01:54] <evsophomore2009> Minataku: okay so im on Konq, and when i click on (Settings --> Config. Konq --> Plugings --> Scan For New Plugins (it scanned and worked) --> now under "Plugins" it shows Netscape
[01:55] <Minataku> ICM: That's a pretty weird issue O.o
[01:55] <evsophomore2009> Minataku: how do i enable it?
[01:55] <draik> alex: That will install the flash player for your Mozilla/Firefox browser
[01:55] <Minataku> I'd file a bug with X.org
[01:55] <ICM> Minataku I know... I can't find ANYTHING on it either
[01:55] <ICM> This is the same computer I had Gentoo on
[01:55] <Minataku> ICM: Definitely file a bug
[01:55] <shatteredskye> Minataku: There is no icon, that's why i was confused. it's FAT32
[01:55] <Minataku> If it happened on both distros, it's a bug in X11
[01:55] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Hrm
[01:55] <Minataku> Bizarre
[01:56] <ICM> I haven't messed around enough with X11 or anything so
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: do you have device icons enabled for the desktop?
[01:56] <ICM> it shouldn't be doing that, so I suppose I should be filing a bug
[01:56] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: Thank God you're here
[01:56] <ICM> but then how does one fix it.. u.u
[01:56] <Minataku> ICM: Yeah, that's an X11 issue there, definitely file a bug
[01:56] <yannick_> hello !all how to use skype on kununtu in local my microhone work well but can't make call in skype thanks all
[01:56] <Minataku> Me, I'm going to set myself on fire and run screaming down the street
[01:56] <Minataku> j/k
[01:56] <shatteredskye> Minataku: Yes, because Memory Sticks will show up, as well as CD's
[01:56] <revvltn> ICM: is this on Gentoo or on Ubuntu?
[01:57] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: okay so im on Konq, and when i click on (Settings --> Config. Konq --> Plugings --> Scan For New Plugins (it scanned and worked) --> now under "Plugins" it shows Netscape
[01:57] <Minataku> But all new support tickets go to nosrednaekim
[01:57] <Minataku> XD
[01:57] <ICM> this is on Kubuntu, but I had the same issue in Gentoo
[01:57] <revvltn> ICM are you talking about gpm or X pointer?
[01:57] <Minataku> evsophomore2009: Sorry, I don't use Konq so I don't know
[01:57] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: how do i enable flash?
[01:57] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, yeah that's normal for konq
[01:57] <draik> How do I remove the usage of GNOME from my session types? I did   'sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove ubuntu-desktop' and it is still there.
[01:57] <draik> How do I change my KDM theme?
[01:57] <revvltn> ICM then prolly the problem lies in your computer? Have you tried changing  mouse?
[01:57] <ICM> revvltn, I don't know what either of those are (sorry, I'm still learning, I've only used Linux for servers before)
[01:57] <Minataku> The mouse has nothing to do with the X11 pointer
[01:57] <BluesKaj> did you install flash non free from synaptic
[01:58] <ICM> KDE *and* Gnome now, and its ONLY when I log out and back in
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: little overwhelmed?
[01:58] <Minataku> ICM just go file a bug
[01:58] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: no how do i do that?
[01:58] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: VERY
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> lol
[01:58] <revvltn> ICM otherwise take a look at dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:58] <Minataku> Good, BluesKaj is here to help too
[01:58] <Minataku> Everyone ask them stuff now
[01:58] <draik> !kdm
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <Minataku> My damn wrist hurts X3
[01:59] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, open synaptic and type flash
[01:59] <evsophomore2009> i dont have Synaptic?
[01:59] <Minataku> Heehee, sorry all, just getting a bit overwhelmed here
[01:59] <Jucato> !changethemes | draik
[01:59] <ubotu> draik: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[01:59] <BluesKaj> ok adept
[01:59] <Minataku> I need to relax a bit
[01:59] <darkrift> q: how do i use apt-get to install teh latest beta of firefox? (is it possible?)
[01:59] <Minataku> Jucato! You too! Hooray!
[01:59] <evsophomore2009> oh okay
[01:59] <Jucato> O.o
[01:59] <Minataku> Now other people can answer questions
[01:59] <Minataku> lol
[01:59] <Jucato> just woke up....
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: shatteredskye: so whats the deal? the memory stick mounts but doesn't tell anyone?
[02:00] <revvltn> ok gotta bounce
[02:00] <Minataku> Jucato: I was fielding, like, 5 at once earlier
[02:00] <Jucato> heh
[02:00] <darkrift> ill give you guys props
[02:00] <ICM> revvltn, dmesg says some stuff about
[02:00] <darkrift> you hand out tons of help in here
[02:00] <Minataku> I dunno, it's possible that KDE isn't picking up the insertion
[02:00] <darkrift> i always feel bad asking because you are already answering 10 q's at once
[02:00] <shatteredskye> Minataku: correct, except it's an external hdd, rather than a memory stick
[02:00] <Minataku> Heh
[02:00] <revvltn> ICM: there you go!! keep digging eventually you'll sort it out
[02:00] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, choose flashplayer-nonfree and flashplugin-nonfree and install them
[02:00] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Right, same difference, though
[02:01] <shatteredskye> Minataku: I figured
[02:01] <ICM> er, revvltn, says some stuff about **WARNING* I2C adapter driver [NVIDIA i2c adapter 0 at 0:05.0]  forgot to specify phyiscal device: fix it!'
[02:01] <yannick_> how to make call oin skype in local microphone is working well but c'ant make call in skype!thanks!
[02:01] <Jucato> BluesKaj: there's no flashplayer-nonfree
[02:01] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Try pulling it out, wait, oh, 20 seconds, plug it back in
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: is it listed in your /etc/f...crap whats that name?
[02:01] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: fstab
[02:01] <revvltn> ICM also try other mice and find out if they give the same bahavioir, you know to narrow down the causes
[02:01] <BluesKaj> is there flashplugin-nonfree?
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> yeah... shatteredskye is you HD listed in your /etc/fstab?
[02:01] <Jucato> BluesKaj: yes
[02:01] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: there is only one option "flashplugin-nonfree
[02:02] <Minataku> The mouse has nothing to do with X not displaying a pointer
[02:02] <Jucato> evsophomore2009: yep. that one
[02:02] <ICM> revvltn the problem isn't in the mouse its with X11 I think, I can make the selective box and stuff on the desktop
[02:02] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: umm, I don't know?  srry.. newbie =/
[02:02] <BluesKaj> ok , then install it
[02:02] <Minataku> ICM: It is with X11
[02:02] <revvltn> bye the way please answe me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476871
[02:02] <evsophomore2009> but i dont see flashplayer-nonfree
[02:02] <ICM> its as if its calling for 'blah.cur' as my cursor
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: pastebin your /etc/fstab
[02:02] <evsophomore2009> and its already installed
[02:02] <Minataku> Like I said, ICM, go file a bug, I think Xorg has a Bugzilla
[02:02] <ICM> but everything in blah.cur is transparent
[02:02] <revvltn> ICM then make sure you have the proper mouse driver in Xorg
[02:02] <BluesKaj> doesn't matter evsophomore2009 , the plugin is for the browser anyway
[02:03] <Minataku> As for the reason, it'll probably lie in the Xorg.log
[02:03] <revvltn> ICM is this a laptop or Desktop?
[02:03] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: so since its already installed....
[02:03] <BluesKaj> theo the player is for the desktop
[02:03] <ICM> proper mouse driver... this is as generic of a mouse as you can get
[02:03] <ICM> desktop revvltn
[02:03] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: (blush) umm
[02:03] <revvltn> is it USB mouse or PS/2?
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: yeah?
[02:03] <ICM> its PS/2
[02:03] <revvltn> ICM still you should double check
[02:04] <revvltn> and check gpm
[02:04] <Minataku> ICM: If you're currently missing the cursor, check /var/log/Xorg.log
[02:04] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: I'm sorry I don't know how to do that
[02:04] <alex> if i make right klik on the program and open it with adapter it will start the install?
[02:04] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: I get pastebin
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> hehe
[02:04] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: so i did a "reinstall" so should i re-start my computyer?
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> evsophomore2009: no need
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: "cat /etc/fstab" and paste the output in pastebin
[02:04] <BluesKaj> just relogin, evsophomore2009
[02:04] <ICM> um, /var/log/Xorg.log doesn't exist Minataku
[02:05] <Minataku> ICM: One sec
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> its /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:05] <draik> Thank you, Jucato. As always, you are there when I need answers.
[02:05] <Jucato> draik: you're just lucky :)
[02:05] <ICM> ah, found it Minataku... /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:05] <Minataku> Yeah, sorry
[02:05] <CliffJumper> *dpkg-buildpkg
[02:05] <draik> Jucato: I will BRB. I'm going to check out the new KDM.
[02:05] <Minataku> Like I said, I'm a bit frazzled right now
[02:05] <evsophomore2009> Okay brb
[02:05] <ICM> it has a bucn hf ostuff that I don't understand :)
[02:06] <ICM> Could not init font path element... a few of those.. but thats font
[02:06] <draik> Jucato: Nope. I still have GDM
[02:06] <Minataku> ICM: Yeah, just look in there for things with (EE) or (WW) or whatever
[02:06] <ICM> theres a few things with (EE)
[02:06] <Minataku> There's an explanation of the (xx) codes
[02:06] <Jucato> draik: er... I thought you were asking about KDM themes...
[02:06] <draik> Jucato: I changed from GDM to KDM; sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:06] <ICM> well, its (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/wacom
[02:07] <ICM> I have no serial ports
[02:07] <Minataku> Ignore that
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> draik: and i assume you selected KDM?
[02:07] <draik> I did
[02:07] <Jucato> draik: and? it still uses GDM at login?
[02:07] <Minataku> It's lunacy based on the default *buntu configuration
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> draik: you have to restrt the x sever
[02:07] <draik> Jucato: Yes
[02:07] <draik> nosrednaekim: I did
[02:07] <Minataku> ICM: Look for various (EE) and (WW) lines
[02:07] <ICM> theres a bunch of (II), including XINPUT: Adding extended input device "[blablahblah] " (type: Wacom [blahblahblah]
[02:07] <draik> nosrednaekim: CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[02:07] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: nope didnt work
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> draik: how?
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> draik: oh ok... that does it.
[02:08] <evsophomore2009> blueskaj; heres what it says on myspace " Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Click here to get the latest flash player.:
[02:08] <Jucato> draik: hm...
[02:08] <draik> Jucato: Got me too
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> evsophomore2009: install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:08] <Jucato> evsophomore2009: did you turn on javascript too?
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> draik: try a reboot?
[02:08] <Jucato> draik: hold on a sec..
[02:08] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26057/
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> and please don't use Myspace...that site sucks.. :)
[02:08] <Minataku> Holy crap, I haven't updated X11 in over a year
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> thank you
[02:08] <Jucato> draik: can you check if kdm or gdm is running?
[02:08] <evsophomore2009> Jucato: how do i turn on Javascript/
[02:08] <ICM> Minataku, (WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "256x256"; removing.
[02:08] <yannick_> hello! all !how to record my microphone he work well but can't record it or call with skype thanks !!
[02:08] <ICM> and thats the only WW line in it
[02:08] <Jucato> evsophomore2009: Tools menu -> HTML Settings -> Javascript
[02:08] <draik> Jucato: How do you want me to check
[02:09] <Minataku> ICM: Ignore all those "No valid modes" ones
[02:09] <Minataku> Ah
[02:09] <Jucato> draik: are you in KDE now? Press Ctrl+Esc
[02:09] <Minataku> ICM: Try !!, ?? and NI
[02:09] <draik> Jucato: Also, I did --->  sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove ubuntu-desktop
[02:09] <evsophomore2009> Jucato: yep its enabled
[02:09] <ICM> Minataku, none with !!, ?? or NI
[02:09] <evsophomore2009> Admiral_Chicago: its already installed
[02:09] <Jucato> evsophomore2009: btw, what version of Kubuntu are you on?
[02:09] <draik> Jucato: I pressed CTRL+ESC and got the ProcessTable
[02:09] <revvltn> ICM the mouse driver in /etc/X/xorg.config should be uncommented meaning WITHOUT # symbol in front, check which one is yours
[02:10] <Jucato> draik: yep. now look for kdm or gdm
[02:10] <Admiral_Chicago> evsophomore2009: you need to have Konqueror seach for the plugin
[02:10] <ICM> revvltn the mouse is working fine
[02:10] <ICM> its just not displaying the cursor
[02:10] <draik> Jucato: GDM
[02:10] <evsophomore2009> Jucato: Kubuntu Fiesty Fauwn 7.03 or somthing
[02:10] <evsophomore2009> the new on
[02:10] <evsophomore2009> *one
[02:10] <Minataku> ICM: Huh... you've got a definite X11 bug
[02:10] <Minataku> Submit it
[02:10] <Jucato> draik: hm...
[02:10] <Jucato> evsophomore2009: ah ok...
[02:10] <ICM> gret, why am I the one that has to find the bug :/
[02:10] <Minataku> Haha
[02:10] <Minataku> ICM: It's not that bad
[02:10] <evsophomore2009> Admiral_Chicago: How do i have Konq search for the plugin
[02:11] <Minataku> I've had worse bugs
[02:11] <Minataku> Kernel bugs
[02:11] <Jucato> ICM: did you change mouse cursor themes recently?
[02:11] <Minataku> Well, bug
[02:11] <Gerrit> When I installed kubuntu, I was unable to do so with the graphical installation. After installing about 90% of the packages, the installation just stopped and left an unbootable system (no boot loader). The live CD had become unusable too: every attempt to access the ramdisk resulted in many errors: "SquashFS: unable to read...". It sounds like a hardware problem to me, but I don't understand what kind of hardware problem it can be.
[02:11] <ICM> Jucato no, fresh install today
[02:11] <Minataku> ICM: I believe Xorg is at www.x.org
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: ok, I have no clue.
[02:11] <Jucato> he could also try filing a bug in launchpad
[02:11] <Minataku> Jucato: It's happened on a Gentoo system too
[02:11] <Gerrit> It seems as if the installation procedure was over-writing the ramdisk and over-writing itself, thus making the system unbootable and unusable. The problem did not arise in the text-mode installation (that's how I installed a working copy of Kubuntu)
[02:11] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: oh, it's ok - thank you for trying
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: hey... at least it mounts..lol
[02:11] <Minataku> ICM: Oh, is there no mouse cursor even in the login screen?
[02:11] <Jucato> Minataku: on his system?
[02:12] <Minataku> Jucato: Yeah, on his
[02:12] <Gerrit> I have resolved the problem, so it is not really important anymore, but: does anyone have a clue what might have been going on?
[02:12] <Jucato> hm... ok...
[02:12] <draik> Jucato: Any idea? I thought that by switching from GDM to KDM and uninstalling Ubuntu-desktop it would be resolved
[02:12] <draik> I guess not
[02:12] <Minataku> One system, the bug has manifested in both Gentoo and Kubuntu for him
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: bad CD sounds like
[02:12] <revvltn> omG!!
[02:12] <Jucato> draik: the first one should have worked. uninstalling ubuntu-desktop would have done nothing.
[02:12] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: The media check claimed the CD was okay.
[02:12] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: does that mean I can still access the files?
[02:12] <Admiral_Chicago> open up konqueror. look for tools and find the plugin section
[02:12] <Admiral_Chicago> there is a scan button
[02:12] <Gerrit> Is it possible that the media check claims the CD to be okay, even if it is not?
[02:13] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, on konq /settings /configure konq/plugins/ click on scan for new plugins
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't know where i don't use Konqeror
[02:13] <Gerrit> I suppose it does something like a checksum?
[02:13] <draik> Jucato: It also didn't remove GNOME from my session selection
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: yes, probably, if I remember correctly Minataku said it was mounting
[02:13] <Minataku> Not mounting
[02:13] <Minataku> The kernel was seeing it
[02:13] <Jucato> draik: yes. because GNOME is still installed.
[02:13] <Minataku> And setting up dev entries and such
[02:13] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: i just did that 7 minutes ago
[02:13] <ICM> This happened in Gentoo with Gnome
[02:13] <evsophomore2009> and it found a plugin for Netscape
[02:13] <Minataku> ICM: Oh, is there no mouse cursor even in the login screen?
[02:13] <ICM> and now Kubuntu (with KDE, obviously)
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> but not... mounting...
[02:13] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: In fact, when I first got this problem, I checked the CD and it had errors. I then burned another CD (at lower speed) and checked it. It had no errors. To my surprise, the installation problem remained.
[02:13] <ICM> Minataku, lemme check
[02:13] <draik> Jucato: And how do I remove GNOME?
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: hmm... well did it finally work?
[02:14] <ICM> Minataku, correct, there is none at the login screen
[02:14] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: The kernel will report on device attachment
[02:14] <Minataku> ICM: X11 bug
[02:14] <draik> Jucato: Actually, I think I will reinstall Ubuntu-desktop
[02:14] <Minataku> Period.
[02:14] <Jucato> draik: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[02:14] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: Yes, it did, by using the alternative installation (text mode)
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: but woun't auto mount it.
[02:14] <ICM> BAhhh, I shall report it where I found out how
[02:14] <Gerrit> So it's not really important anymore
[02:14] <Minataku> You'll have to file a bug at www.x.org
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: ok.
[02:14] <Minataku> And keep up with it
[02:14] <Jucato> draik: ok... sorry I forgot how to change from KDM to GDM or vice-versa
[02:14] <Minataku> They'll probably be asking you for info and such
[02:14] <Gerrit> but I'm curious if it is a hardware problem, a software problem, a media problem, or a combination thereof
[02:14] <ICM> my.. info
[02:14] <draik> Jucato: It's ok. You are trying
[02:15] <ICM> I'm not giving them much more than my name :p
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: still sounds like a media problem to me.
[02:15] <Minataku> ICM: About the system and such
[02:15] <Minataku> Just things they need, no personal data
[02:15] <ICM> heh, okay.
[02:15] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: Even though the media check claimed the CD was allright?
[02:15] <Minataku> Debug info and logs and such to help them track the problem
[02:16] <evsophomore2009> forget it, im sick of these stupid codes on Kubutnu, i want windows again
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: maybe. maybe it downloaded wrong.
[02:16] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: It didn't download wrong: I did an md5sum and it was correct.
[02:16] <ICM> Fixing bugs
[02:16] <ICM> Bugs assigned to the pseudo-user<EMAIL_ADDRESS>need someone to take ownership of them. If you feel qualified to fix the bug, feel free to take ownership of the bug by reassigning it to yourself.
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: ok... well then I have no idea
[02:16] <ICM> (from the XOrg site)
[02:16] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: Neither do I.
[02:16] <Minataku> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/
[02:16] <Gerrit> Nor does my father, who is quite knowledgeable also
[02:16] <Minataku> ICM: Section 4
[02:17] <Gerrit> It was just very weird
[02:17] <Minataku> Not Section 5.5
[02:17] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: is there a way to manually mount the ex-hdd?
[02:17] <ICM> okay, now I feel stupid
[02:17] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Yes
[02:17] <Minataku> ICM: Don't
[02:17] <Minataku> I clicked 5.5 first too
[02:17] <Minataku> XD
[02:17] <ICM> hhe :)
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: what's the device called byt the kernel? the /dev/X name
[02:17] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: /dev/sdb1
[02:18] <Minataku> I remember it from earlier
[02:18] <alex> the adapt manager shows me all the time a messege <<The APT Database could not be openedThis may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem.Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.>
[02:18] <Gerrit> md5sum correct, media check correct, no prior hardware problems experiences, and then this. And FC7 installation failed as well. Weird.
[02:18] <shatteredskye> good thing Minataku remembers... =S
[02:18] <alex> what should i do?
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt"
[02:18] <Jucato> !adeptfix | alex
[02:18] <ubotu> alex: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:18] <Minataku> Type what nosrednaekim said
[02:18] <Minataku> Then see all your files in /mnt
[02:18] <yannick_> how to record a microphone is work well but can't record it or make call in skype
[02:19] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: I put the command in, but didn't get any output
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> thats fine
[02:19] <shatteredskye> ok
[02:19] <BluesKaj> wel evsophomore2009 , i still think you need to DL and install the latest flashplayer..I think since it's written for kde then it'll run on Konq
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> now do "cd /mnt"
[02:20] <Jucato> BluesKaj: browser plugins don't have to be written for a specific browser in order to work. they all follow a single common format
[02:20] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: "bash: cd: /mnt: Permission denied"
[02:21] <Minataku> Heh
[02:21] <Gerrit> gn
[02:21] <mordaunt> what's a good newsreader for kde?
[02:21] <Jucato> evsophomore2009: have you tried other Flash sites? like Youtube?
[02:21] <Jucato> mordaunt: knode? (akregator for feeds)
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: errr... do "sudo bash" and then "cd /mnt"
[02:21] <Minataku> Jucato: evsophomore2009 would use other things, but Gecko crashes on him with an X11 error
[02:21] <crdlb> nosrednaekim, sudo -i
[02:21] <Minataku> "BadMatch", specifically
[02:21] <Jucato> Minataku: hmm....
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> whats the i do?
[02:21] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: ok... sorry, i''m trying to pick stuff up as i go
[02:22] <Minataku> shatteredskye: One sec
[02:22] <Minataku> Let me give you a piece from my /etc/fstab
[02:22] <Minataku> Just paste it into yours
[02:22] <crdlb> nosrednaekim, the same as sudo bash without being quite as evil
[02:22] <Jucato> !pastebin | shatteredskye
[02:22] <ubotu> shatteredskye: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> crdlb: heh ev1l h4xx0r is my name
[02:22] <Minataku>   /dev/sdb1              /mnt      auto            noauto,user        0   0
[02:23] <Minataku> Stick that in your fstab
[02:23] <Minataku> Then type "sudo umount /dev/sdb1"
[02:23] <Minataku> Then type "mount /dev/sdb1" WITHOUT SUDO
[02:23] <alex> do you know a easer way?
[02:23] <Jucato> alex: what do you mean?
[02:23] <shatteredskye> Minataku: trying now, thanks, sec
[02:24] <Minataku> After that, type "sudo chown /mnt <your linux username>:users"
[02:24] <alex> i could not aderstend how to solve the problem
[02:24] <Minataku> So if you log in to Linux with the name shatteredskye, it's "sudo chown /mnt shatteredskye:users"
[02:24] <Jucato> alex: just type the commands in Konsole
[02:25] <alex> yes i did that
[02:25] <alex> after that what?
[02:25] <Minataku> This should make the mountpoint yours, and all the files inside yours
[02:25] <Jucato> alex: try running Adept again
[02:25] <Minataku> Hopefully
[02:25] <Minataku> lol
[02:25] <Minataku> If not I've got a fix for that too
[02:25] <ICM> Minataku...
[02:25] <ICM> I think Kubuntu just made a bloody liar out of me
[02:25] <ICM> its working now
[02:26] <Minataku> ICM: Heh
[02:26] <ICM> you know that was going to happen as soon as I ask in #xorg
[02:26] <Minataku> It's still a bug nonetheless, it would seem
[02:26] <Minataku> The fact that it took this long to show up
[02:27] <alex> it didnt start
[02:27] <Jucato> alex: what happened when you ran "sudo dpkg --configure -a"?
[02:27] <Minataku> shatteredskye: If you ever have more things you need to mount, that can be taken care of as well, but for now what we've got set up is fine
[02:27] <shatteredskye> Minataku: theres a bunch of other stuff like [UUID: numbers]  before each device line similar to the one u gave me
[02:28] <alex> a list apears
[02:28] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Don't worry about it
[02:28] <shatteredskye> can I pastebin my fstab, and you can modify it, Minataku?  I'm just not sure, sorry
[02:28] <Minataku> If you want to make it UUID-based, that could be possible, but the device name will do just fine
[02:28] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Just paste in the line I gave you as is
[02:28] <shatteredskye> at the end?
[02:28] <Minataku> Yeah
[02:29] <shatteredskye> k
[02:29] <Jucato> alex: what does the list say? can you use pastebin the output?
[02:29] <Jucato> !pastebin | alex
[02:29] <ubotu> alex: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:29] <Minataku> After that, chown /mnt before mounting it
[02:30] <darkrift> anyone know where windows firefox stores its favorites? i need to import a few (manually)
[02:30] <Minataku> Before should work fine too, though
[02:30] <shatteredskye> Minataku: I opended it in Kate, and can't save the new fstab cuz I asume I'm not logged in as root
[02:30] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Run Kate via kdesu
[02:30] <shatteredskye> ok
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> "kdesu kate /etc/fstab"
[02:31] <shatteredskye> thank you
[02:31] <alex> i think that i past it
[02:31] <Minataku> np
[02:31] <Minataku> Oh
[02:31] <Minataku> Sorry, I've become a bit tired
[02:31] <Minataku> XD
[02:32] <bene> whats the command to list all running jobs?
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> lol... trying to steal my glory?
[02:32] <alex> can anyone plz help me with that problem?
[02:32] <bene> ha sry just came in
[02:32] <Jucato> bene: "top"
[02:32] <bene> thx
[02:32] <Jucato> alex: where did you paste it?
[02:33] <Jucato> !patience | alex
[02:33] <ubotu> alex: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:33] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: Nah, just screwing up like usual XD
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> heh.
[02:33] <lolopop> hi
[02:33] <lolopop> does LVM take an inordinate ammount of time to set it up?
[02:33] <shatteredskye> Minataku: got a bunch of error msgs in konsole when kdesu'ing kate - i assume that's my cd drive that's not plugged in?
[02:34] <alex> sorry but i am tring to aderstend how linux are "thinking"
[02:34] <lolopop> before I tried to set them individually and took a while
[02:34] <Minataku> shatteredskye: As long as it runs, we don't care XD
[02:34] <bene> how do you kill an unresponsive app? i have ClanBomber runner and it just hung.
[02:34] <shatteredskye> Minataku: XD?
[02:34] <lolopop> now I had them ready and made Altenrate CD to activate them and the screen is BLUE
[02:34] <lolopop> BSOD
[02:34] <Jucato> bene: killall <processname>
[02:34] <lolopop> na mean?
[02:34] <Minataku> shatteredskye: As long as Kate launches, who cares about the errors? XD
[02:35] <draik> Jucato: Should I be worried that the ubuntu-desktop install has stopped at "gtkhtml3.8" for about 15 mintues?
[02:35] <draik> Jucato: Not so much stopped as I think "frozen"
[02:35] <Jucato> alex: where did you paste the output of sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[02:35] <shatteredskye> Minataku: XD represents that philosophy? "as long as it runs"?
[02:35] <Jucato> draik: I would be worried.. but I don't know what that is
[02:35] <Minataku> Oh
[02:35] <Minataku> XD is an emoticon
[02:35] <Minataku> Sorry
[02:35] <Minataku> X3
[02:35] <Minataku> That's another emoticon
[02:35] <Jucato> alex, bene: please keep the questions in here. thanks
[02:35] <alex> at a page that ubuto gave me up
[02:36] <shatteredskye> haha it's ok, i'm a dumbass
[02:36] <Minataku> Similar in meaning to XD
[02:36] <Minataku> shatteredskye: We all are sometimes X3
[02:36] <bene> ok
[02:36] <Jucato> alex: ok try pasting in http://rafb.net/paste
[02:36] <bene> i dont know the processname of ClanBomber, so i cant use the kill command
[02:36] <Jucato> bene: press Ctrl+Esc to launch the process table, and look for anything that resembles clan bomber's name
[02:36] <Jucato> select it and click on kill
[02:37] <alex> did you find it
[02:37] <alex> ?
[02:37] <bene> thank you
[02:37] <draik> Jucato: What does "sudo dpkg --configure -a" do?
[02:37] <bene> yea
[02:37] <Jucato> alex: no. you have to give me back the link to what you pasted.
[02:38] <draik> Jucato: Sure could have fooled me some times
[02:38] <Jucato> hehe
[02:38] <alex> http://rafb.net/p/og5JzV17.html
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> thats just his disclaimer
[02:38] <alex> sorry
[02:38] <Jucato> draik: dpkg --configure -a, in plain words, tries to pick up where dpkg/apt left when it crashed or was abruptly stopped
[02:39] <Jucato> alex: just do "sudo dpkg --configure -a" please?
[02:40] <draik> nosrednaekim: I should probably have the same disclaimer when I'm at work doing Tech Support. I get some OVERLY VAGUE and WAAAAAAAAAAAY OBSCURE references to "I am retarded, but I'm sure you know that since I can't spell correctly and much less formulate a statement with inteligence past a sponge"
[02:40] <alex> do i have to make space betwin dpkg and --?
[02:40] <draik> Jucato: I only ask because I was asked to do so when I stopped the install of ubuntu-desktop.
[02:40] <draik> alex: yes
[02:41] <Jucato> alex: type it exactly as I gave it, just without double quotes
[02:41] <ehc> do I need more than the default drivers on kubuntu to run higher resolutions with a Nvidia GeForce Fx card?
[02:41] <draik> alex: sudo SPACE dpkg SPACE --configure SPACE -a
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> ehc: what do you mean by "higher"
[02:42] <alex> stil nothink
[02:42] <darkrift> anyone know where windows firefox stores its favorites? i need to import a few (manually)
[02:42] <shatteredskye> Minataku: upon trying to mount the ex-hdd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26059/
[02:42] <draik> ehc: I have an nVidia GeForce FX 5700LE... VERY happy with the default from Kubuntu. But it doesn't hurt to get the unofficial stuff, too.
[02:43] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Heh
[02:43] <ehc> nosrednaekim, I am only getting up 1024x768 on a monitor that has up 1280x1024
[02:43] <draik> darkrift: Yeah. One sec
[02:43] <Minataku> You just forgot to hit enter at the end of the line
[02:43] <darkrift> cool
[02:43] <darkrift> ive searched google, but not much luck
[02:43] <Minataku> But it's mounted
[02:43] <shatteredskye> oh ok
[02:43] <Minataku> Try ls /mnet
[02:43] <Minataku> Er
[02:43] <Minataku> /mnt
[02:44] <Jucato> alex: no output?
[02:44] <alex> no
[02:44] <bene> how do you check what graphics card you have?
[02:44] <lolopop> OMG!!! 20 mins no kidding reading my LVM set up!!!
[02:45] <ehc> draik, that is the same card I have, but I am not able to change the resolution above 1024x768 with the default drivers in "Monitor & Display"
[02:45] <shatteredskye> Minataku: it's listing some files i recognized from the hdd
[02:45] <Jucato> alex: try this command: "sudo apt-get -f install"
[02:45] <lolopop> I am seriously considering lodging a BUG complain about Alternate CD
[02:45] <Jucato> bene: lspci | grep -i vga
[02:45] <draik> ehc: I have 1280x1024
[02:45] <Minataku> shatteredskye: DING DING DING
[02:45] <Minataku> Enjoy
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: it will automatically try to mount on boot though, Minataku will that make it stall?
[02:46] <Minataku> It shouldn't
[02:46] <alex> http://rafb.net/p/QzgPsP44.html
[02:46] <Minataku> If it's not there on boot, it'll just bitch
[02:47] <Minataku> If it IS there on boot, it'll mount
[02:47] <alex> and stil dont work
[02:47] <Minataku> Actually, no
[02:47] <Minataku> It won't even try to mount it on boot
[02:47] <Minataku> Sorry
[02:47] <Minataku> That's what noauto is for
[02:47] <Minataku> It has to be mounted manually
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> ah ok.
[02:47] <Minataku> And by name
[02:47] <Minataku> mount -a won't do it either
[02:47] <Jucato> alex: at least now I know why
[02:47] <beetle_> #ubuntu-fr
[02:47] <ealtorfer> Hey everyone.
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> hmmm well make sure shatteredskye knows what to do
[02:48] <Minataku> He seems to
[02:48] <shatteredskye> =)
[02:48] <shatteredskye> =(
[02:48] <Minataku> "mount /dev/sdb1" isn't hard to remember, either
[02:48] <Minataku> lol
[02:48] <ealtorfer> Darkrift, did you get an answer to your question about Firefox favorites?
[02:48] <Jucato> alex: "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" <--- that will run Kate with administrator privileges and open the sources.list file
[02:48] <Jucato> alex: then delete the first line, which you shouldn't have added in the first place.
[02:48] <shatteredskye> Minataku, nosrednaekim: ok so what's the scoop?
[02:49] <Minataku> shatteredskye: If you want to mount it
[02:49] <shatteredskye> I need to type that in every time I log in?
[02:49] <Minataku> You have to type "mount /dev/sdb1"
[02:49] <Minataku> shatteredskye: How often do you do that?
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: is it always attached to your computer>
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> *?
[02:49] <shatteredskye> yeah
[02:49] <Minataku> Not log in, just every reboot
[02:49] <shatteredskye> it has al my music, etc. on it
[02:49] <Minataku> It's mounted until you reboot
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> lets make it auto, chall we?
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> *shall
[02:50] <shatteredskye> pleeeaase
[02:50] <shatteredskye> I would appreciate the help
[02:50] <draik> darkrift: Still need the location?
[02:50] <Minataku> I wouldn't make it automatic
[02:50] <shatteredskye> ?
[02:50] <shatteredskye> y nt?
[02:50] <Jucato> alex: that should fix things. ok need to go now
[02:50] <Minataku> The fact that he can use it as not-root is that he mounted it
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: what happens if its not there?
[02:50] <Minataku> Though he does own the directory
[02:50] <Minataku> So I suppose you can try
[02:50] <alex> w8
[02:50] <alex> i cnot aderstend somethinki
[02:50] <Minataku> To make it mount automatically, just remove the "noauto,"
[02:51] <shatteredskye> from, fstab?
[02:51] <Minataku> Yeah
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: yes
[02:51] <shatteredskye> ok
[02:51] <Minataku> While you're there, go to the end of the file and hit enter
[02:51] <alex> i wrote /etc/apt/sources.list and then what?
[02:51] <Minataku> That'll get rid of that warning
[02:52] <shatteredskye> ok, thx
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> Bye all! I really had better go.
[02:52] <Minataku> np
[02:52] <shatteredskye> it's not letting me open fstab now
[02:52] <shatteredskye> gr
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: kdesu?
[02:52] <shatteredskye> yeah
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> "kdesu kate /etc/fstab"?
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> whats the error?
[02:53] <shatteredskye> it's hanging in the konsole after 3 error msgs, which used to pop up 5 times then prompt pswd anyway
[02:53] <Minataku> In that case
[02:53] <shatteredskye> oh wait
[02:53] <Minataku> "sudo nano -w /etc/fstab"
[02:53] <draik> darkrift: C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> I've had kdesu do weird things like that
[02:54] <draik> You can do a search for the bookmarks from there, since it depends if you want the default or those specific to a certain date
[02:54] <shatteredskye> weird
[02:54] <lolopop> should I set the time to UTC? or what?
[02:55] <draik> darkrift: I'm sorry, here is the exact location....
[02:55] <lolopop> yes no
[02:55] <lolopop> UTC ?
[02:55] <NickPresta> lolopop, whichever you prefer. You're the one that has to read it and put up with it :)
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: is kate working now?
[02:56] <shatteredskye> Minataku, nosrednaekim: is it weird that auto and noauto were on the same line in that last line of fstab?
[02:56] <lolopop> hello?
[02:56] <shatteredskye> i'm in nano
[02:56] <draik> darkrift: C:\Documents and Settings/***USER***/Application Data/Mozilla/Firefox/Profiles/***FF_USER***.default/bookmarkbackups
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> make sure you enalrged your terminal all the way... line overflow and such
[02:57] <shatteredskye> I dunno, Minataku did write the line for me
[02:57] <shatteredskye> =)
[02:57] <shatteredskye> hehe
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> heh
[02:57] <Minataku> shatteredskye: It's fine
[02:58] <lolopop> all of a sudden this is silent
[02:58] <Minataku> The "auto" is a different field
[02:58] <psygrass> hi i am new to kde..i am trying to install new style or theme...when i run ./configure i got errors that i don't totally get it (C++ preprocessor) ..what am i missing here?
[02:58] <Minataku> It's the filesystem type
[02:58] <Minataku> Just leave it as auto, easier that way
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> psygrass: you need build-essential
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> psygrass: and what theme are you tring to install? chances are, its already prepackaged
[02:59] <Minataku> You just want to take out the "noauto," part, leave "user"
[02:59] <Minataku> And then save the file
[02:59] <Minataku> nano puts a newline at the end automatically
[02:59] <psygrass> i tried many...domino, kore..
[02:59] <shatteredskye> Minataku: done
[02:59] <lolopop> could anyone help me with Deciding whether to set the time UTC or not?
[02:59] <shatteredskye> Minataku: now what?
[02:59] <Minataku> shatteredskye: That's it
[02:59] <Minataku> Sit back and enjoy
[02:59] <psygrass> sorry noob here......... what is build essential?:)
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> psygrass: source code complilers and such
[03:00] <psygrass> do i get them from synaptic?
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> psygrass: yeah, thtough the meta package "build-essential"
[03:01] <shatteredskye> Minataku: It's Showing "Mydrive(mnt)" icon on the desktop, when I click it it says: Unable to enter file:///mnt. You do not have access rights to this location."
[03:01] <psygrass> k..found them..thanx
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> bye all!
[03:01] <wes> hey good night, somebody knows install the soundboard VIA AC97 on ubuntu gnome?
[03:01] <BluesKaj> I'm having a mountpointy confilict with hda1 and cdrom on /media ..where should I mount the dvdwriter ?
[03:01] <draik> How do I change the font size of my login? The password asterisks are about the size of blood drops
[03:01] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Aaargh
[03:02] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Try "sudo chown shatteredskye:users /mnt"
[03:02] <shatteredskye> k
[03:02] <Minataku> That should make you the owner
[03:03] <darkrift> how do i install windows media player codecs for firefox?
[03:04] <darkrift> and ty by the way draik
[03:04] <shatteredskye> Minataku: maybe I need to restart to get fstab to re-register the device or something? Cuz I entered ur line and got output, but still can't open it
[03:04] <ealtorfer> http://port25.technet.com/pages/windows-media-player-firefox-plugin-download.aspx
[03:05] <ealtorfer> Darkrift, take a look at that link
[03:05] <draik> !restricted | darkrift
[03:05] <ubotu> darkrift: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:05] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Aaargh, I don't think so, but I'm completely out of help juice for the night >.<
[03:05] <Minataku> Sorry, I'm tapped
[03:05] <draik> darkrift: you're welcome. I had an issue with Totem playing my online streams (mms://URL..."
[03:05] <shatteredskye> Minataku: oh, no prob at all, thanks so much for your help- I really appreciate it =)
[03:06] <Minataku> I remember I had to do some fancy bending to get mine working perfectly for my non-root user
[03:06] <draik> I can get you the link to use mozilla-mplayer for your streaming audio/video
[03:06] <shatteredskye> Minataku: ok.  I'll bug the rest of these guys and see what they can do, thanks again
[03:06] <draik> darkrift: http://zerlinna.blogweb.de/archives/73-Watching-Video-streams-mms-and-rtsp-protocol.html
[03:07] <draik> Hope that helps
[03:08] <a-865> how long should hardware detection phase of feisty installation take?
[03:09] <jerkface> no more than an hour
[03:09] <ealtorfer> Wow--an hour?
[03:09] <jerkface> i might have made that up ;)
[03:09] <ealtorfer> Hopefully.
[03:09] <ealtorfer> That would be a long time for hardware detection. ;)
[03:11] <Minataku> shatteredskye: No problem and good luck
[03:11] <Minataku> ^^
[03:11] <shatteredskye> quick bash question: how do i copy myfile.blah from current directory to my home directory?
[03:11] <ealtorfer> cp ______ ______ ?
[03:11] <shatteredskye> Minataku: cheers
[03:11] <shatteredskye> !
[03:11] <ealtorfer> Did that work for you, shatteredsk?
[03:11] <khammlyon> hi
[03:11] <alex> adept always shows a messege http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26060/ what should i do?
[03:11] <khammlyon> holy!!!
[03:12] <khammlyon> I did a command install and it's bare bones!!!
[03:12] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: the ext-hdd thing?
[03:12] <ealtorfer> cp filename /home/username/ ?
[03:12] <khammlyon> what's KDE's package?
[03:12] <ealtorfer> No, shatteredsk, the file copy.
[03:13] <shatteredskye> oh ok, thank you - i thought u were listening in on the long-winded schpiel we had trying to get myexternal HDD to work
[03:13] <draik> khammlyon: That is a bit too vague. What do you mean by "kde's package"?
[03:13] <khammlyon> what's the main KDE desktop package?
[03:13] <ealtorfer> Oh. I was reading about that, too, shatteredsk
[03:13] <khammlyon> draik: I don't even have X
[03:13] <khammlyon> draik: the main Desktop Managere
[03:13] <draik> khammlyon: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:13] <shatteredskye> easltorfer: yeah, frustrating, still haven't got it
[03:13] <khammlyon> oh thanks
[03:13] <shatteredskye> lemme try copy thouh
[03:13] <draik> you're welcome
[03:14] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk: let me know if I can do something to help with the external HD. I wasn't paying close attention though so you'd have to explain.
[03:15] <khammlyon> draik: something is wrong, it wants to install from the CD
[03:15] <khammlyon> I wanna install of the website
[03:15] <draik> khammlyon: It's shouldn't ask for the CD.
[03:15] <khammlyon> draik: well it is
[03:15] <draik> what happens when you do 'apt-cache search kubuntu-desktop'?
[03:16] <khammlyon> how do I configure the mirrors Universe and so on?
[03:16] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: ok thanks, although i think i'm pretty burnt out from it and ready to give up for the nite
[03:16] <shatteredskye> I appreciate the offer though! thanks
[03:16] <draik> khammlyon: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:16] <ealtorfer> No problem shatteredsk
[03:16] <khammlyon> draik: it gives me a description
[03:17] <draik> khammlyon: Good. Then it **should** get it from the net
[03:17] <francesco> !it
[03:17] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:18] <draik> khammlyon: Wait... Did you get Ubuntu from the LiveCD or the Alternative CD?
[03:18] <khammlyon> it says Media change: please insert the disc labeled Kubuntu 7.04 Fiesta Fawn etc...
[03:18] <khammlyon> Alternative CD, and then I did the command line installation
[03:18] <draik> The Alternative CD install may need the CD for installs
[03:19] <draik> I did the Live CD install. You need the CD
[03:19] <khammlyon> w00t
[03:19] <khammlyon> for ALL install?
[03:19] <khammlyon> for ever?
[03:19] <khammlyon> yo this is weird
[03:19] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: I'm denied permission from my /mnt directory
[03:19] <shatteredskye> is that weird?
[03:19] <khammlyon> when will I be able to do off line?
[03:20] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk, did you try chowning the directory?
[03:20] <shatteredskye> don't know how... =/
[03:20] <shatteredskye> sorry, i'm a noob, btw if u haven't discerned haha
[03:20] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk, take a look at http://www.computerhope.com/unix/uchown.htm
[03:20] <rathel> It's kind of wierd on linux when you restart, things can go weird.. My login screen is now huge I have to scroll around to see my login information, but my desktop after login appears just fine, what happened and how do I fix it? lol Thanks!
[03:20] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: thanks
[03:20] <ealtorfer> No worries. I'm not really a daily Linux user...I am a sysadmin though.
[03:21] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: oh ok, cool
[03:21] <khammlyon> oh man I shudva update first!! now I will have old an new packages mixed up
[03:22] <draik> khammlyon: All "apt-get install" are online because it goes to the servers with the packages.
[03:22] <khammlyon> draik: it's odd it needs the CD to access online
[03:22] <khammlyon> weird
[03:23] <khammlyon> anyways it's doin it doint it doin it now
[03:23] <theshado1> is there any way I can fix the problem where when I try to launch and application I get "KLauncher could not be reached via DCOP" w/out restarting?
[03:23] <draik> khammlyon: I agree, but I didn't compile the CD
[03:24] <khammlyon> lol ok
[03:24] <khammlyon> draik: at least I am happy now I am getting this going finnally
[03:25] <draik> khammlyon: But if I did, I would have put some logic into it... "Hmm... I should make 'apt-get' available without the CD for when khammlyon decides he is going to need it..." LOL
[03:25] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26061/
[03:25] <shatteredskye> =(
[03:26] <rathel> Hello.
[03:26] <ealtorfer> Oh
[03:26] <ealtorfer> Wait a second.
[03:26] <shatteredskye> ?
[03:26] <draik> Jucato: Did you scare off alex?
[03:27] <draik> nosrednaekim: Or as Morpheus giving alex the choice between the pills... I guess she decided to return to the life with lies
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> and virus's?
[03:28] <ealtorfer> Shatteredsk: try ls -l /mnt/ ?
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[03:28] <ealtorfer> Can you paste the result of that shatteredsk? I think it's correct syntax.
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: still not working?
[03:28] <shatteredskye> no =(
[03:29] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: "permission denied"
[03:30] <ealtorfer> ls -l /
[03:30] <khammlyon> OMG why do I want gujarati and mlaylam fonts!!!
[03:31] <a-865> how long should hardware detection phase of feisty installation take?
[03:31] <khammlyon> arphic-ukai fonts? WTF??!!
[03:31] <ehc> shatteredskye, try "sudo ls -l /"
[03:31] <ealtorfer> a-865: not very long...less than a half hour
[03:31] <rathel> It's kind of wierd on linux when you restart, things can go weird.. My login screen is now huge I have to scroll around to see my login information, but my desktop after login appears just fine, what happened and how do I fix it? lol Thanks!
[03:31] <khammlyon> devanagari??
[03:31] <khammlyon> oriya?
[03:31] <shatteredskye> ech: the sudo ls worked
[03:31] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: worked
[03:31] <khammlyon> telugu??? WTF??!! I clearly set everything to ENGLISH
[03:31] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk: What were the results? Can you paste the line?
[03:31] <shatteredskye> * ehc: worked
[03:32] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk: I think you need to do a chmod on that directory
[03:32] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk: At least in Windows, you can own a folder but not have access to it until you mod the ACLs
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> rathel: thats why you aren't supposed to restart ;)
[03:32] <rathel> nosrednaekim: Well, to bad.
[03:32] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: sry, u want the output of what?
[03:33] <ealtorfer> of the ls -l
[03:33] <ealtorfer> it should've included permissions to the directories
[03:33] <rathel> Now how do I fix the problem?
[03:33] <shatteredskye> for /
[03:33] <shatteredskye> ?
[03:33] <ealtorfer> Yes please
[03:33] <shatteredskye> k
[03:33] <draik> rathel: I'm on the same boat with you. The asterisks for my password are about the same size as a blood drop
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> rathel: I was kidding.
[03:34] <rathel> draik: lol We have to find away off this boat I say.
[03:34] <draik> rathel: No GUI?
[03:34] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26062/
[03:35] <rathel> draik: I use the GUI login, it's just freaking huge, I have to scroll my mouse to see where I can type in my login information.
[03:35] <draik> rathel: TTY login, gain access and then "startx"
[03:35] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk: sudo chmod o=rwx /mnt should help
[03:35] <ealtorfer> Syntax might be wrong
[03:36] <ealtorfer> but it looks close
[03:36] <draik> I had that issue. It somehow went away. Now, the font size for my password is huge. The username is ok, but the password asterisks are HUGE
[03:36] <shatteredskye> k, sec
[03:36] <a-865> ealtorfer: nothing has happened for over half an hour :(
[03:36] <khammlyon> ok I did it
[03:36] <khammlyon> I am in
[03:36] <khammlyon> in KDE
[03:37] <rathel> draik: TTY?
[03:37] <draik> rathel: I had that issue. It somehow went away. Now, the font size for my password is huge. The username is ok, but the password asterisks are HUGE
[03:37] <khammlyon> what to do from here?
[03:37] <draik> rathel: No. GUI
[03:37] <khammlyon> I guess all the multimedia stuff
[03:37] <khammlyon> by the way I don't have adept
[03:37] <khammlyon> should I sintall it?
[03:37] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: permission still denied to cd to /mnt/
[03:37] <a-865> ealtorfer: tons of hda lost interrupts
[03:38] <rathel> draik: Aw,so your saying I should turn off the GUI login?
[03:38] <khammlyon> my bad I do have it
[03:38] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk: you can try sudo chmod a=rwx /mnt if you want
[03:38] <ealtorfer> It's kind of bad practice...
[03:38] <khammlyon> ok, how do I install all the multimedia stuff?
[03:38] <ealtorfer> a-865: I've seen that before, too, but I don't know what to do about it.
[03:39] <ealtorfer> a-865: Does it move past detection? How long has it been?
[03:39] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: what will that do?
[03:39] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk: It will allow all users read, write, and execute permissions on /mnt
[03:39] <shatteredskye> oh
[03:40] <ealtorfer> and then paste me another ls -l / please.
[03:40] <shatteredskye> ok
[03:40] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk: thanks
[03:40] <shatteredskye> np
[03:40] <a-865> ealtorfer: it finally did an ide0 reset, but now it's doing lost interrupts again
[03:40] <ealtorfer> a-865: Is your hard drive bad?
[03:40] <a-865> ealtorfer: staying blank on the installation screen
[03:41] <ealtorfer> a-865: Try running a diagnostic tool?
[03:41] <a-865> ealtorfer: prolly not - windoz is on hda, breezy working fine on hdc
[03:41] <draik> rathel: No, just an option... with a side of sarcasm
[03:41] <ealtorfer> a-865: Interesting.
[03:42] <rathel> draik: Aw okay, I get confused easily on the IRC..
[03:42] <draik> rathel: Sorry, it comes with the personality
[03:42] <rathel> draik: No prob.
[03:42] <kubu> buenas!
[03:43] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26063/
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: and I assume you still can't cd into it?
[03:43] <shatteredskye> right
[03:43] <shatteredskye> grrr
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> this is bad,,
[03:43] <shatteredskye> =(
[03:43] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk: You aren't getting the permissions changed for some reason
[03:44] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk: You need to perform a chmod. You don't have access to the directory.
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> now... there's a non command line way to do this..
[03:44] <shatteredskye> k
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> "kdesu konqueror"
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> navigate to "/?
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> "/"
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> and then right click on /mnt
[03:45] <ealtorfer> All: I have to go for right now. Good luck shatteredsk.
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> select properties
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> and then permissions
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> ealtorfer: all right, i'll try to handle it
[03:45] <ealtorfer> :)
[03:45] <ealtorfer> Shatteredsk: email me if you need more<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:46] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: did you do all that?
[03:46] <khammlyon> for Konqueror which flash do I need?
[03:46] <khammlyon> nsplugins flash, gnash, or flashplugin-nonfree?
[03:47] <draik> nonfree
[03:47] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: thanks so much! bye bye
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> khammlyon: non free would be best
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: did you do those things?
[03:47] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: yes, and btw- everytime I kdesu, I get these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26064/
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: don't worry about them
[03:47] <estebanbianchi> hello
[03:47] <shatteredskye> k
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: so you're in permissions?
[03:48] <shatteredskye> yes
[03:48] <khammlyon> guys do you use Beagle with KDE, knowing is Gnome base? I mean GTK
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> khammlyon: kerry-beagle
[03:48] <estebanbianchi> i've been trying to install ubuntu from the cannonical live cd
[03:48] <estebanbianchi> but i cant
[03:48] <estebanbianchi> mean kubuntu
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: ok, change "others" to "can view and modify content"
[03:49] <estebanbianchi> it fails in formating part
[03:49] <draik> estebanbianchi: What error message are you getting?
[03:49] <shatteredskye> ok
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> and check the radio button saying apply changes to all subfolders
[03:49] <coreymon77> khammlyon: wh not, just because its kde doesnt mean you cant use gtk programs
[03:49] <estebanbianchi> it starts the procces and it stops in 15%
[03:49] <coreymon77> i use gtk programs quite often
[03:49] <kubu__> alguno sabe si con Eclipse se puede programar en visual???
[03:49] <draik> estebanbianchi: I would suggest formatting the drive first from the live cd as EXT3
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> !es | kubu__
[03:49] <ubotu> kubu__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:49] <estebanbianchi> yes...it is what i do
[03:50] <estebanbianchi> but just dont work
[03:50] <estebanbianchi> when i am fomating it stops
[03:50] <estebanbianchi> english is not my language...yo cans ee
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> no, use qt-parted from the live cd to format the disk before starting the installer
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> estebanbianchi: what is your native language?
[03:50] <estebanbianchi> oh..thats a good idea
[03:51] <estebanbianchi> spanish nosrednaekim
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> !es
[03:51] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:51] <estebanbianchi> thanks ubotu
[03:51] <estebanbianchi> thanks nosrednaekim
[03:51] <khammlyon> I am sorry I am not seeing Sun's java package
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> if there is none there, you can just ask here
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: did that?
[03:51] <khammlyon> I need it for Konquerer and watch youtube
[03:52] <kubu__> anybody know, if whit ECLPSE, i can program in visual language?
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> kubu__: visual basic is not available on linux
[03:52] <kubu__> ohhh bad news!!!
[03:52] <draik> nosrednaekim: It never ceases to amuse me when people thing ubotu is a person.
[03:52] <estebanbianchi> well it seems that the spanish guys are not online
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> !botsnack
[03:52] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:53] <kubu__> hehe no problema, i will find other way to program!!!
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> estebanbianchi: ok no problemo...just ask here
[03:53] <estebanbianchi> i'll try the q t parted
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> kubu__: python
[03:53] <draik> nosrednaekim: Darn you... you beat me to his feeding.
[03:53] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: grrr : "Could not change permissions for /mnt/"
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> did you do "kdesu konqueror"?
[03:53] <shatteredskye> yes
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> umm wow...
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> weird.
[03:54] <kubu__> python was installed in my kubuntu?
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> kubu__: yep
[03:54] <estebanbianchi> in this moment im running an old ubuntu 5.10
[03:54] <estebanbianchi> and i cant mount an hdd
[03:54] <draik> estebanbianchi: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:54] <estebanbianchi> its a fat32 conected as slave
[03:55] <estebanbianchi> thanks, but i will install kubuntu fesity soon
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: trying to think...
[03:55] <kubu__> ohh, ok i will try whit this!!!
[03:55] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: k
[03:56] <kubu__> thanks nosrednaekim!!!
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> kubu__: its  whole new language
[03:56] <draik> shatteredskye: What are you trying to do? Maybe I can help.
[03:56] <estebanbianchi> well,, i'll reboot and try to use the qt parted
[03:56] <Iradigalesc> anyone knows why in kopete we can't see the /msg HELP commands?
[03:56] <estebanbianchi> see in a while
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: "sudo umount /mnt"
[03:56] <shatteredskye> draik: trying to access my Western Digital 250 GB USB drive
[03:56] <darkrift> how do i kill a frozen app
[03:56] <coreymon77> darkrift: xkill in a terminal
[03:56] <draik> shatteredskye: You're using a GUI, right?
[03:56] <coreymon77> and then click on the frozen app
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> draik: it doesn't do it automatically
[03:57] <draik> darkrift: CTRL+ESC
[03:57] <shatteredskye> draink: KDE.
[03:57] <shatteredskye> *draik: KDE.
[03:57] <rathel> My /media folder seems to be broke, when I browse there with Konqueror it comes up with nothing, keeps stalling, and my flash drive doesn't come up when I plug it in..
[03:57] <draik> shatteredskye: You're not too off on the name..  I used the tools in System Settings
[03:58] <coreymon77> darkrift: you have to click on the frozen app
[03:58] <coreymon77> not the taskbar
[03:58] <darkrift> yeah
[03:58] <darkrift> it wasnt open
[03:58] <coreymon77> so open it
[03:58] <draik> shatteredskye: Then I used the filesystem section to automatically mount
[03:58] <darkrift> so i clicked on its button in the task bar
[03:58] <darkrift> and poof
[03:58] <darkrift> how would i go about restarting it
[03:59] <draik> You may have to do the same thing with your USB, but it does it automatically for me.
[03:59] <coreymon77> darkrift: even if its frozen, something will come up
[03:59] <kubu__> ah ok, no problem, thanks for taht!
[03:59] <coreymon77> type kicker
[03:59] <kubu__> see you!
[03:59] <darkrift> k
[03:59] <darkrift> ty
[03:59] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: I unmounted
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> draik: oh NICE! i never saw that!
[03:59] <draik> nosrednaekim: You need fresh eyes. Seems you've been trying to resolve this for quite some time.
[04:00] <draik> I just got involved because I figured I might be able to help.
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: go into system settings, advanced, disk and filesystems
[04:00] <darkrift> seems it killed the firefox window, but not the app
[04:00] <darkrift> firefox wont restart now :(
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> draik: wow... I really never even saw that tool... very nice
[04:00] <shatteredskye> lemme try, draik and nosrednaekim
[04:00] <draik> darkrift: CTRL+ESC and locate the app.
[04:00] <draik> shatteredskye: Let us know what happens.
[04:00] <coreymon77> darkrift: type ksysmanager
[04:00] <shatteredskye> k, sec
[04:01] <coreymon77> no not that
[04:01] <darkrift> ty
[04:01] <darkrift> ctrl esc worked nicely
[04:01] <darkrift> will remember that one
[04:01] <coreymon77> ksysguard
[04:01] <draik> nosrednaekim: shatteredskye: My desktop automatically mounts my USB drives. I don't recall having to change any of those settings, but it might be the answer we need.
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> draik: yeah.
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: when you are there,enter administrator mode
[04:02] <shatteredskye> haha
[04:02] <draik> shatteredskye: ??? haha in a good way or bad way?
[04:02] <khammlyon> what's the Sun Java package called?
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> !java
[04:03] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:03] <shatteredskye> draik: haha to the node crossing
[04:03] <draik> khammlyon: I will give you the steps necessary to choose the correct java for your system
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: there yet?
[04:03] <shatteredskye> draik, nosrednaekim: in admin mode now
[04:03] <draik> shatteredskye: Oh, ok. I thought it was something in your settings that was funny.
[04:03] <khammlyon> thanks
[04:03] <shatteredskye> not yet
[04:03] <shatteredskye> heh
[04:04] <nosrednaekim> ok.do you  see your external HD listed?
[04:04] <biffhero> how do I upgrade to feisty?  I have read the http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading page, and neither the KDE nor the gnome methods work.  (I never get the "upgrade" button lit up)
[04:04] <shatteredskye> yes I do
[04:05] <biffhero> There are dire warnings against editing /etc/apt/sources.list (cat $file | sed -e 's/edgy/feisty'), but that's my first thought, coming from debian.
[04:05] <shatteredskye> draik, nosrednaekim: it's listed as disabled though
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> enable it.
[04:05] <draik> shatteredskye: Admin mode > Modify
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> and do that...
[04:06] <shatteredskye> k
[04:06] <draik> shatteredskye: Make sure that you have it enabled and setup as the correct file system
[04:06] <khammlyon> Sun Java is GPL now, why is saying is restricted?
[04:07] <shatteredskye> I don't see FAT32 listed as an option
[04:07] <draik> khammlyon: Ready to configure Java?
[04:07] <shatteredskye> ?
[04:07] <draik> shatteredskye: Sure?
[04:07] <khammlyon> draik: yeah
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: vfat, and you have to scroll up
[04:07] <shatteredskye> vfat, oh right
[04:08] <khammlyon> well I am about to search for sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre
[04:08] <khammlyon> is that OK?
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> set the mount point to /media/data
[04:08] <draik> khammlyon: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:08] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: ok
[04:08] <khammlyon> draik: that's it?
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> and tell it to let anyone mount it.
[04:09] <jhutchins> !java
[04:09] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:09] <khammlyon> draik: why alternatives? Are the others as good as SUN?
[04:09] <draik> khammlyon: Select the java located under /usr/lib/jvm/java-[version] -sun/jre/bin/java
[04:09] <draik> That is for java
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: and select enable at startup
[04:10] <khammlyon> says nothing to configure
[04:10] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: how do i tell it to let anyone mount it>
[04:10] <draik> nosrednaekim: Thank you for covering that.
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> its under "mount permissions"
[04:10] <khammlyon> only  1 program which provides java /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[04:10] <ehc> I am trying to configure the KDE Panel and I make a change and click Ok, but then it doesn't change. Any Ideas?
[04:11] <tbtroja> ehc: try hitting apply and then OK?
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> ehc: try apply?
[04:11] <draik> khammlyon: Be sure you have sun-java6-bin sun-java6-demo sun-java6-fonts sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-source
[04:11] <tbtroja> Say, is Sun Java FLOSS yet?
[04:11] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: it says media/data doesn't exist, should I create?
[04:11] <khammlyon> draik: damn!! do I need all of that to check out YouTube vids?
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[04:11] <draik> shatteredskye: Yes
[04:12] <shatteredskye> do i need a / after data?
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> no
[04:12] <shatteredskye> ok
[04:12] <shatteredskye> here goes nothing...
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> (her goes everything)
[04:13] <lucas__> hi everyone
[04:13] <draik> khammlyon: That's what I have setup
[04:13] <ehc> nosrednaekim, tbtroja I lclicked apply and then ok and still nothing. It won't stop grouping my apps.
[04:13] <yotux> Is it safe to uninstall ubuntu if I installed kubuntu via apt-get
[04:13] <shatteredskye> fudge...
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> grouping them?
[04:14] <draik> shatteredskye: No luck, huh?
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: it might not mount right away
[04:14] <biffhero> ejc: sometimes I have had to reastart KDE to get it to like my new chnages.
[04:14] <draik> shatteredskye: CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> unplug it and then back in
[04:14] <khammlyon> yotux: that's what I am doint
[04:14] <khammlyon> doig
[04:14] <khammlyon> doing
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> draik: what!?
[04:14] <khammlyon> yotux: so far it's working
[04:14] <draik> khammlyon: 3rd time's the charm!
[04:14] <khammlyon> though I had to start Kubuntu manually with startx
[04:14] <khammlyon> startkde didn't work
[04:14] <coreymon77> yotux: yup
[04:14] <coreymon77> yotux: its fine
[04:15] <yotux> khammlyon -- issue a purge command with apt
[04:15] <draik> nosrednaekim: ??? Restart X so that we can see if it's recognized on startup
[04:15] <shatteredskye> draik: OH CRAP
[04:15] <draik> khammlyon: StartX
[04:15] <draik> shatteredskye: What happened?
[04:15] <shatteredskye> draik: I tried to go back in to modify the ext hdd
[04:15] <darkrift> what would cause movies to play crappily on kubuntu (frequent short pauses and skips)
[04:16] <draik> shatteredskye: Ok...................???
[04:16] <biffhero> dark: not enough ram?
[04:16] <darkrift> ive got the cpu pumped up all teh way to 2000
[04:16] <darkrift> 1g ram
[04:16] <draik> darkrift: codecs missing
[04:16] <darkrift> hrmmmm
[04:16] <darkrift> is there a way to install all of the mainstream codecs at once?
[04:16] <darkrift> codec pack etc?
[04:16] <shatteredskye> draik: but I was on the 1 kb partition #2 on my internal HDD, and saved it with funky settings
[04:16] <darkrift> !codec
[04:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:16] <shatteredskye> i don't know what it used to be
[04:16] <khammlyon> draik: nope startx
[04:16] <biffhero> darkrift: run `free` and see how much RAM is available
[04:16] <darkrift> ive done all the stuff in those tutorials
[04:16] <ehc> nosrednaekim, I am trying to set "group similar tasks" to never
[04:16] <khammlyon> there'snt such a thing as StartX
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: so....
[04:17] <darkrift> Mem:        969784     831108     138676          0       7400     279240
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> ehc: hrm
[04:17] <draik> shatteredskye: You know what you need to do
[04:17] <darkrift> seems really low
[04:17] <darkrift> 128mb out of a gig
[04:17] <biffhero> nah, a lot of it is probably file cache.
[04:17] <shatteredskye> draik: didn't i change the swap partition or something>
[04:17] <draik> darkrift: Here is what I have...
[04:17] <draik> Sysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.17-11-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), HD: 352/692GB, RAM: 2892/3035MB, 115 proc's, 12.0h up
[04:17] <biffhero> if you let it run for a wihle, you will see almost none free.
[04:18] <biffhero> but if you run 'top', and then sort by memory (m key, I think), you will see who is using a lot of the RAM
[04:18] <draik> shatteredskye: You don't need to create a swap for the USB drive unless you're using it to boot.
[04:18] <darkrift> Sysinfo for 'HP': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDTurion64MobileTechnologyMK-36 at 1600 MHz (3217 bogomips), , RAM: 816/947MB, 138 proc's, 2.16d up
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: oh you tried modifying /proc
[04:18] <khammlyon> draik: mmm... showing off to make feel everyone else ashamed of their lil ...?
[04:18] <darkrift> Sysinfo for 'HP': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDTurion64MobileTechnologyMK-36 at 2000 MHz (4021 bogomips), , RAM: 815/947MB, 134 proc's, 2.16d up
[04:18] <darkrift> there
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: great, well, we had better change it back
[04:18] <darkrift> it keeps setting itself back to auto scale
[04:19] <shatteredskye> draik: no, I mean I changed a random 1 kb partition on my SCSI HD (internal) on accident, and i dont know what it used to be
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: I do
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> it was /proc
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> so open it up to edit again.
[04:19] <khammlyon> oh my, now everyone showing off
[04:19] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: ok
[04:19] <draik> shatteredskye: Whoa..... edit the partition as best to your knowledge
[04:20] <draik> khammlyon: Not showing off, just stating that RAM is not the issue and there isn't much of a diff between his system and mine. So I would think its a codec on his player
[04:20] <shatteredskye> draik: I thought I was changing my ext. hdd (I thought I had it selected, but accidentally clicked the proc part.)
[04:20] <khammlyon> WTF??!! libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate??!!!
[04:20] <draik> shatteredskye: One sec. I will try to see what I have on mine.
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: change the Type to proc
[04:21] <tbtroja> Hm, best way to convert MP3s to OGGs on KDE?
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> mount point is /proc
[04:21] <shatteredskye> k
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> options are "defaults"
[04:21] <ehc> nosrednaekim, now it is working. it just suddenly started to work
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> ehc: good
[04:21] <draik> shatteredskye: Yup. nosrednaekim is right.
[04:21] <khammlyon> I need to install MEdibuntu or what?
[04:22] <nosrednaekim> draik: of course I am ;)
[04:22] <shatteredskye> draik, nosrednaekim: k thanks guys
[04:22] <draik> shatteredskye: Don't thank us yet. USB Drive isn't working yet.
[04:22] <Daisuke_Ido> tbtroja: soundkonverter
[04:22] <yotux> does anyone know if thunderbird 2.0 is in backports
[04:23] <tbtroja> Daisuke_Ido: what do I need install to have it recognize the MP3 files?
[04:23] <Daisuke_Ido> libxine-extracodecs
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> draik: so go back and edit the RIGHT partition this time
[04:23] <Daisuke_Ido> however, i STRONGLY recommend against converting mp3 to ogg
[04:23] <tbtroja> Daisuke_Ido: why's that?
[04:23] <draik> nosrednaekim: You're telling me?
[04:24] <Daisuke_Ido> lossy copy to lossy copy = even worse quality
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> heh sorry... shatteredskye
[04:24] <yotux> ogg has better coding and you will have already lost it with mp3
[04:24] <shatteredskye> draik, nosrednaekim: it's not letting me hit OK to change the proc back...
[04:24] <Daisuke_Ido> any lossy format to any other lossy format will make baby jesus cry.
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> are you in admin mode?
[04:25] <draik> shatteredskye: Admin mode?
[04:25] <draik> nosrednaekim: You beat me to it
[04:25] <shatteredskye> yes,
[04:25] <shatteredskye> restarting,
[04:25] <shatteredskye> the program
[04:25] <shatteredskye> and sweating
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> no no.. it does the same for me..
[04:25] <khammlyon> I set up Medibuntu as explained adn still can't find the DVD package
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> can't save that..
[04:25] <khammlyon> that's like the only program I care
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> you don't NEED a whole partition for /proc
[04:26] <draik> shatteredskye: relax... breathe....
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> I don't think it will harm your system
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> draik: shatteredskye: I have to go you can email me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:26] <nosrednaekim> if you have problems
[04:26] <draik> shatteredskye: I don't have a /proc partition. You should be fine.
[04:26] <draik> nosrednaekim: Will do. Thanks.
[04:27] <shatteredskye> ok, thanks nosrednaekim, I will if neeed
[04:27] <tbtroja> Daisuke_Ido: is libkine-extracodecs proprietary?
[04:27] <shatteredskye> draik: what's the proc part do anyway?
[04:27] <tbtroja> Daisuke_Ido: libxine*
[04:27] <khammlyon> I need help getting libdvdcss2 please
[04:27] <khammlyon> and the rest of codecs
[04:27] <ehc> nosrednaekim, it actully didn't work. it was only I didn't have the panel full. it is not working again now.
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> !medibuntu | khammlyon
[04:28] <ubotu> khammlyon: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[04:28] <khammlyon> how do I use Medibuntu?
[04:28] <draik> shatteredskye: /proc is a special dynamic directory that maintains info about your system, including running PROCesses
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> khammlyon, see the link, instructions on the site
[04:29] <shatteredskye> draik: ah, I see
[04:29] <draik> shatteredskye: If you want, use it as swap
[04:29] <khammlyon> OMG so how on earth can I enjoy multimedia?
[04:29] <khammlyon> I did do that
[04:29] <khammlyon> ok amma look again
[04:29] <shatteredskye> draik: it changed back! wooT
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> !dvd | khammlyon
[04:29] <ubotu> khammlyon: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:30] <draik> shatteredskye: YAY
[04:30] <shatteredskye> draik: ok, so now to the ext HDD
[04:30] <draik> shatteredskye: Onto the ext HDD...
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> !mp3 | khammlyon
[04:30] <ubotu> khammlyon: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:31] <khammlyon> what's the package that leads me directly into graphics without dropping to CLI?
[04:32] <khammlyon> when I logg off I am led into CLI
[04:32] <hitmanWilly> khammlyon, gdm, kdm, or xdm
[04:32] <tbtroja> khammlyon: I think you are referring to the KDM program?
[04:33] <khammlyon> I think it's already installed, I rebooted and didn't have to do that
[04:33] <intelikey> "$Q" ;done
[04:35] <intelikey> wonder how long i'll stay on line before that kills something.......
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, ok, granted, my bash isn't that up to speed, but it looks like you just purged everyhting starting with Q
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, or with a Q in it
[04:37] <intelikey> hitmanWilly no not everything starting with Q  but every non-essential
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, ok, just had to man cut again, got it now :P
[04:38] <intelikey> the "for" loop reads in the package list from the command    `dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3`  (you can run that to see the list)   and executes a purge on each one listed
[04:39] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, i would but im on my gentoo box atm (no dpkg)
[04:39] <hitmanWilly> :)
[04:39] <BluesKaj> ok gents , what do I do to prevent hda1 from being superceded by the dvdwriter ...this onlyhappens if there's adisk in the dvdwriter of course cuz somehow bothe the had1 partition and the dvdwriter ended up on the same mountpoint , namely  /media ...any suggestions ?
[04:39] <intelikey> unless a dependancy pulls in pppd pretty soon it will take a little while.....   but i will vanish eventualy
[04:40] <rodrigo> kubuntu espa;ol
[04:40] <BluesKaj> !es | rodrigo
[04:40] <ubotu> rodrigo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:40] <hitmanWilly> BluesKaj, explicitly set a mountpoint for hda1 in fstab, other than the default dvd mountpoint
[04:41] <illmortal_> Can anyone tell me what's the best way to keep my Linux box cooler than average?
[04:41] <intelikey> BluesKaj use something besides /media  for your hda1
[04:41] <hitmanWilly> illmortal_, put it in the frezzer?
[04:41] <intelikey> BluesKaj /media/* is the default for all automatically mounted crap in ubuntu
[04:41] <hitmanWilly> *freezer
[04:41] <illmortal_> hitmanwilly, I mean realistically.
[04:42] <intelikey> illmortal_ power off   ?
[04:42] <intelikey> illmortal_ add a case fan ?
[04:43] <BluesKaj> intelikey, hitmanWilly ...I've been trying to set mountpoints but they either create an access problem or conficts...for some reason prolly fstab is telling both to mount on /media ...not real good at reading the fstab file.
[04:43] <illmortal_> intelikey heh... I mean during use of course, as of now... it's an opened case machine
[04:43] <hitmanWilly> illmortal_, don't put it on the floor, make sure there's a good air flow path through the case (no ribbon cables in front of fans), keep it dusted out
[04:43] <hitmanWilly> illmortal_, do you mean you have the case off?
[04:44] <intelikey> BluesKaj yeah seperate them into subdirs   /media/hda1 /media/dvd   ....
[04:44] <illmortal_> hitmanwily, yeah... it's basically bare metal frame lol i stripped off the casing
[04:44] <BluesKaj> ok intelikey , I'll try that ..thx
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> illmortal_, actually that can hurt cooling...those cases are designed to route airflow a certain way over the hottest components
[04:45] <intelikey> illmortal_ some boxes are actually designed so that the air flow through the case helps cool them.  thus having the cover is counter productive
[04:46] <illmortal_> hitmanwilly... that's another thing i have two case fans... i don't know where exactly to put the second one, it's actually on the bottom of the frame... angled to point upwards
[04:46] <intelikey> illmortal_ unless you set a "fan" to move high volumes of air over them
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> illmortal_, do you have one in the back?
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> illmortal_, as an exhaust fan?
[04:47] <illmortal_> hitmanwilly, not so much where to put it... but there's a spot in the front of the case, but i dunno if that should be an intake or exhaust.
[04:47] <illmortal_> hitmanwilly yeah the one in the rear is an exhaust.
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> illmortal_, front is intake, rear is exhaust
[04:47] <darkrift> intake
[04:47] <darkrift> back is always outtake
[04:47] <illmortal_> and it's ok if the front one is on the bottom of the case?
[04:48] <darkrift> the power supply blows hot air out
[04:48] <darkrift> and brings semi cool air from inside the case
[04:48] <intelikey> hitmanWilly not in all cases   some use multi-exhoust and vents for intake
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> illmortal_, yeah, that's fine, remember hot air rises
[04:48] <darkrift> so if your adding a fan, make it bring cool air from teh front of the case
[04:48] <illmortal_> very tru.
[04:48] <darkrift> and.....
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, but generally speaking, rear is exhaust
[04:48] <illmortal_> alright ill put the case back together... I had a feeling that taking off the case wasn't helping
[04:48] <darkrift> it would be better to have the front one lower then the back one
[04:49] <darkrift> so that the airflow crosses the processor heat sink on its way to the power supply
[04:49] <intelikey> hitmanWilly consenting.
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, and yes im aware of multiple exhaust cases, mine has a massive exhaust fan on top :P
[04:50] <intelikey> not common tho.
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> most common pc cases use the front to back air flow path
[04:51] <darkrift> its not that bad if done properly
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> all it takes is one leak....
[04:52] <darkrift> put it together and let it run for a week with paper towells under it with uv dye in the water
[04:52] <darkrift> any leaks can be seen on teh towells
[04:52] <darkrift> if it runs for a week, it should be fine
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> unless you're using de-ionized water or some other non-corrosive/conductive coolant
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> *non-conductive
[04:53] <illmortal_> brb guys, gonna shut down and put case back together.
[04:53] <darkrift> heh
[04:53] <darkrift> !codecs
[04:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:53] <intelikey> darkrift i have a colling chip that would drop my cpu to any temp from ambiant to -45F at +12V DC i never have worked up the nerve to apply it though.     cause if it failed the cpu would go nuclar in about 3 seconds
[04:54] <khammlyon> guys which one is better TASTY MENU or KICKOFF
[04:54] <darkrift> ahhhh
[04:54] <darkrift> forget what those are called
[04:54] <darkrift> its a heat pump
[04:54] <darkrift> ice cold on one side, hot as hell on the other
[04:54] <darkrift> used to sell those at frys electronics
[04:54] <intelikey> this is one of the climit control chips from a sub
[04:55] <darkrift> what you do is apply it to the SIDE of the cpu heat sink
[04:55] <darkrift> so that it wrks with it, not instead of it
[04:55] <intelikey> and yes di-electric heat transfer
[04:55] <darkrift> wont work as good, but still good enough
[04:55] <darkrift> just make sure you get rid of the output heat fast or it will cause the rest of your components to fry
[04:56] <intelikey> darkrift naw,  between the heatsync and the cpu  :)
[04:56] <darkrift> nah, if it fails, the heat sink cant draw heat off fast enough
[04:56] <darkrift> the side of the heat sink is safest, ive tried it many times
[04:57] <darkrift> back i the 800 duron overclocked to 2200mhz days
[04:57] <intelikey> darkrift that's what i said about 3 seconds grace on failure....
[04:58] <darkrift> another q for you guys
[04:58] <darkrift> when i installed, my networkmgr used to show wifi with a signal meter
[04:58] <Rictoo> what is the font folder on kubuntu?
[04:58] <darkrift> i messed something up and now it constantly shows a cat5 plug (even on wifi)
[04:59] <intelikey> Rictoo which one ?
[04:59] <Rictoo> ...
[04:59] <Rictoo> erm
[04:59] <intelikey> !fonts
[04:59] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[04:59] <Rictoo> the one with the "Monospace" font
[04:59] <Rictoo> intelikey: I need to find the 'Monospace' font
[05:00] <intelikey> Rictoo find / -iname *monospace* 2>/dev/null
[05:00] <Rictoo> what is 2>/dev/null
[05:00] <Rictoo> ?
[05:01] <intelikey> trash error messages
[05:01] <Rictoo> I see
[05:01] <Rictoo> thanks :D
[05:01] <intelikey> you can shorten that by adding /usr/  in place of /   / is the whole box
[05:02] <intelikey> i'm pretty sure you'll find them in /usr/share/  but not positive
[05:03] <darkrift> anyone got any idea what i could do to fix the previously mentioned problem?
[05:04] <intelikey> darkrift i don't recon i've ever seen "knetwork-manager" so i'm useless there.
[05:04] <darkrift> i c
[05:05] <intelikey> it looks like to do this right i'll have to remove the kernel...    "bother says poo"
[05:05] <darkrift> im pissed that the only way i can print is buy paying for turboprint
[05:06] <darkrift> pisses me off to come to linux to avoid that crap and get stuck buying drivers :S
[05:07] <intelikey>             a ^
[05:07] <darkrift> lol
[05:09] <ToddEDM2> anyone here have a pocketPC that syncs with linux?
[05:09] <intelikey> :)
[05:10] <darkrift> ToddEDM2: , good luck
[05:10] <darkrift> i run a pocket pc software channel elsewhere, and have never heard of linux syncing that works
[05:10] <ToddEDM2> damn
[05:11] <ubuntu__> sidnei
[05:11] <intelikey> anyone know off hand howto change priority on a package ?
[05:11] <ubuntu__> ola
[05:12] <intelikey> !es | ubuntu__
[05:12] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:14] <BluesKaj> intelikey, no luck , sys/settings won't allow /media/hda1 or media/dvd ... the dialog asks if i want to create the mount point, but then does nothing after clicking on the create option ..everything works , itjust annoying to have to remove the dvd to access hda1
[05:15] <intelikey> BluesKaj so make them by hand
[05:15] <ToddEDM2> !3d
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <intelikey> sudo mkdir -p /media/whatever
[05:15] <ToddEDM2> !3ddesktop
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3ddesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <ubunturos> !beryl