[00:00] <mnaines> Bof: Thermal throttling changes the CPU core voltage and core clock speed based on core temperature
[00:00] <Bof> mnaines.... seems something crucial can I play with it in the bios?
[00:01] <mnaines> Bof: Yes, but I would not recommend messing with the BIOS unless you know what you are doing
[00:01] <Bof> That's why I'm worried...
[00:01] <mnaines> Bof: If in doubt, don't do it
[00:01] <ikonia> mnaines: or his is newer so has less support than yours
[00:01] <Bof> Ok....
[00:02] <Bof> I guess I can check if throttling is enable without risk?
[00:02] <mnaines> Bof: I would talk you through it, but mine is the previous generation, so I do not know if yours will have toe same BIOS
[00:02] <m0r0n> Is it advised to use terminal to install games?
[00:03] <ikonia> m0r0n: terminal or gui makes no difference
[00:03] <thedude42> m0r0n, doesn't really matter
[00:03] <m0r0n> ikonia: I tried installing a game VIA terminal and it didn't work as it should it gave me an old version
[00:03] <a_> can someone tell me how to change permissions on an external HD, please?
[00:03] <Bof> mnaines : Last question... can I turn on throttling  without risk?
[00:03] <ikonia> m0r0n: it will only install the version that's in the repo
[00:03] <m0r0n> ikonia: How do I update
[00:04] <mnaines> Bof: Again, I would not mess with ANY bios settings unless you know what you are doing
[00:04] <ikonia> m0r0n: update from what to what ?
[00:04] <thedude42> a, your question doesn't make much sense... are you wanting to change permissions on a file in that hard drive?
[00:04] <m0r0n> ikonia: Update the old termlous to the new version
[00:04] <Bof> Ok... I'll try to find more information about it before !
[00:04] <a_> i'm using ubuntu
[00:04] <thedude42> a_, is there a specific file you need to change permissions on?
[00:04] <WanHouse> m0r0n: It fetched and installed the most recent version. If you want a newer version youll have to install from source
[00:04] <ikonia> m0r0n: if it's not in the repo - you can't
[00:05] <a_> I want to use the rename feature on my files in the HD
[00:05] <WanHouse> m0r0n: Its called Tremolous
[00:05] <Bof> Thank you everyone for helping, it was very instructive !!!
[00:06] <thedude42> a_, if you need to change the permissions on all the files, then you need to do somehting like chmod -R XXX /mountpointofthehdd
[00:06] <thedude42> and you probably need to use sudo when you run that command
[00:07] <devdude> Is there any place where I can grab a collection of packages and pop em onto my 4gb usb key?
[00:07] <a_> how do I log in as sudo?
[00:07] <devdude> my ubuntu machine has no internet right now
[00:07] <thedude42> a_: you don't log in as sudo
[00:07] <thedude42> !sudo
[00:07] <a_> sorry, i'm pretty new at this
[00:08] <WanHouse> nw
[00:08] <stebalien> a_:  you probably mean log in as root, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[00:08] <Bof> a_ : just  >sudo "command"
[00:08] <devdude> yeah
[00:08] <ReggyLove> by default no ports are closed in ubuntu right ?
[00:09] <marekw2143> does default installation of postfix on ubuntu server , disallows to send emials throught smpt from other hosts than localhost?
[00:09] <thedude42> ReggyLove, be default, minimum ports are open in ubuntu
[00:09] <foofish> thedude42: minimum = 0
[00:09] <mo0nykit> ReggyLove: I would think that all unused ports in Ubuntu are closed.
[00:09] <devdude> a_: alternatively, you can log in as root alltogether, but by default there is no root password.. You would want to first: sudo passwd (whih will ask you for your current user password, then ask you for a new root password), then do su root, enter the root password
[00:09] <stebalien> ReggyLove:  No, most ports are closed, no ports are stealthed.
[00:09] <WanHouse> ReggyLove: They dont need to be closed if they arent utilized by any listening software
[00:10] <mo0nykit> ReggyLove: IMHO if you install a daemon or server, I think that's when the corresponding port is opened
[00:10] <devdude> a_: unless you had done sudo recently before that.. then it would just ask for a new password
[00:10] <ReggyLove> ok well i have a problem here, it seems like all my ports are closed and i need some for transmission, i had it working fine but all of a sudden they are closed
[00:10] <devdude> so I repeat my question -- is there any way I can download like a collection of recent packages and pop them on my 4gb flash drive so my ubuntu machine can use them?
[00:10] <nibbler> ReggyLove: check with iptables -L
[00:11] <mo0nykit> ReggyLove: How do you know they are closed? It's probably related to port forwarding on your router
[00:11] <devdude> without having to grab 20 debs, like the way it recognizes the desktop cd
[00:11] <WanHouse> ReggyLove: How do you know they are closed ?
[00:12] <WanHouse> Gah!
[00:12] <ReggyLove> nibbler,  http://pastebin.com/f70b0a8ce
[00:12] <ReggyLove> Wanderer, according to online port tester
[00:12] <ReggyLove> they are closed or invincible
[00:12] <WanHouse> Not closed
[00:13] <nibbler> ReggyLove: see? all ports open :p
[00:13] <thedude42> Regel, that shows that you have no rules configured in IPTables
[00:13] <devdude> I want to grab all the ubuntu packages I can get on a usb key, is there any way to do so?
[00:13] <devdude> on a windows pc
[00:13] <mo0nykit> ReggyLove: try running Transmission, then do a "netstat -4" (-4 if you're using ipv4)
[00:14] <thedude42> devdude, you can download any package over http
[00:14] <thedude42> !repository
[00:14] <devdude> thedude42: yeah but can I grab any form of major amounts at once?
[00:14] <diogo_79> hi guys anyone has virtualbox 3.08 install in ubuntu 9.04 64 bits?
[00:14] <mo0nykit> thedude42: devdude probably means he wants to download the packages he wants and automatically take care of dependencies
[00:15] <devdude> mo0nykit; that's important too actually, but what I really mean is I want to grab a LOT of packages (I don't know what I want, or don't want/need, but I want to grab a big glob)
[00:15] <ReggyLove> mo0nykit, http://pastebin.com/db826ba7
[00:16] <thedude42> devdude, my impression is that you would like everything in one big tarball, or you want some kind of batch download script?
[00:16] <mo0nykit> ReggyLove: sorry I forgot "netstat -4n" (-n so that ports will be shown as numbers)
[00:16] <devdude> thedude42: exactly
[00:17] <devdude> my question is does it exist?
[00:17] <devdude> any form*
[00:17] <thedude42> devdude, anything like that I have seen has been something someone whipped up themselves
[00:17] <devdude> I have 4 gigs of space and a pretty fast internet connection
[00:17] <devdude> damn ;(
[00:17] <devdude> alright
[00:17] <ReggyLove> mo0nykit, > http://pastebin.com/d5a7d64ce
[00:17] <seidos> I don't see the point in a firewall now.  If you know what is running on your system that is...
[00:17] <mo0nykit> devdude: that's probably taken care of by several Ubuntu installation dvd's. I used to have 5 CDs of OpenSUSE packages
[00:17] <devdude> thedude42: I have 10mbit internet here, but I can't connect the ubutnu machine.. and where ubuntu machine is, I have to grab at 65kb/s
[00:17] <WanHouse> mo0nykit: -n and -P combined
[00:18] <WanHouse> that is
[00:18] <devdude> mo0nykit: I'll look around
[00:18] <seidos> does a daemon have to be running on a port for the system to be compromised?
[00:18] <paul_s> thanks for trying guys my machine is not good enough for this, i am going  to format and dual boot , no vbox
[00:18] <paul_s> thanks for trying guys my machine is not good enough for this, i am going  to format and dual boot , no vbox
[00:18] <paul_s> l*r
[00:18] <FloodBot1> paul_s: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:19] <mo0nykit> WanHouse: -P isn't recognized ?
[00:19] <thedude42> devdude, the way you would want to do this then is maybe create your own mirror of the repos and put it on a hard drive
[00:20] <mo0nykit> ReggyLove: In your local address column, look for the port number you opened in Transmission. You can do it with "netstat -4n | grep <port number>"
[00:20] <devdude> thedude42, how much space would that take though?
[00:20] <devdude> thedude42: all I've got is my 4gb key.. sounds more like an external hd
[00:20] <WanHouse> mo0nykit: "netstat -np"
[00:20] <devdude> nevermind then
[00:21] <devdude> it'll be faster and easier to just not do that at all
[00:21] <boii> Hey dude
[00:21] <thedude42> devdude, yeah, exactly.... if you really are limited on space then you need to figure out the packages you need, dependencies and all, then grab those specifically
[00:21] <devdude> ill spend like 5 hours working on this
[00:21] <ReggyLove> mo0nykit, no output
[00:21] <devdude> or 5 hours downloading
[00:21] <devdude> obviously the downloading is easier
[00:21] <boii> why my ubuntu have no sound?
[00:21] <mo0nykit> ReggyLove: are you running Transmission already? Like activating a torrent?
[00:21] <devdude> boii: get the driver(s)
[00:21] <ReggyLove> mo0nykit, yes
[00:22] <joebodo> !boil | sound
[00:22] <devdude> okay I'm out, thanks for the help though
[00:22] <joebodo> !sound | boil
[00:22] <mranderson> if something is an svn ....is there a specific install process?
[00:22] <joebodo> mranderson you need an svn client
[00:22] <mranderson> do you know if ubuntu already has one?
[00:23] <mo0nykit> ReggyLove: just to be sure if you followed correctly. If the port you want to open is 12345, your command should look like "netstat -4n | grep 12345"
[00:23] <ReggyLove> mo0nykit, i got it right
[00:23] <diogo_79> when a system freezes (keyboard and mouse stops responding) where can i find the error in witch log in ubuntu 9.04 64bits?
[00:23] <joebodo> mranderson the applications are broken up into many repositories - it depends on what you want the source for
[00:23] <ReggyLove> mo0nykit, netstat -4n | grep 50001
[00:23] <CJ1> Wow I haven't use IRC in a long time =]
[00:24] <mo0nykit> ReggyLove: It could be a firewall problem (iptables, and the like). I'm sorry I couldn't help any further...
[00:24] <Jordan_U> diogo_79: /var/log/syslog likely
[00:24] <thedude42> mranderson, apt-get install subversion
[00:24] <WanHouse> CJ1: Nice though ;)
[00:24] <Jordan_U> Also for future reference...
[00:24] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | diogo_79
[00:24] <CJ1> Yeah, inded WanHouse :)
[00:24] <WanHouse> hehe
[00:24] <diogo_79> thanks jordan_u
[00:24] <ReggyLove> mo0nykit, ok thanks
[00:24] <graelin> can anyone tell me what process monitors/controls usb devices?  I'd like to be able to kill/restart this process
[00:25] <Jordan_U> diogo_79: np
[00:25] <elli222> Hi, im looking for a pong game that can run in a console, anyone know any?
[00:25] <foofish> graelin: i think dbus. but that may be way off
[00:25] <Jordan_U> graelin: udev, to a certain extent
[00:25] <CJ1> Any of you guys familiar with using VMWare in Ubuntu Jaunty?
[00:25] <iceroot> !ask | anyone
[00:25] <iceroot> !anyone | CJ1
[00:25] <Jordan_U> graelin: If the problem has happened recently can you pastebin the output of "dmesg" ?
[00:26] <graelin> basically my mouse will crap out. unplugging/replugging it doesn't fix the problem. If I zap out , system hangs and I have to hard boot it. Very irksome
[00:26] <iceroot> is it possible to install an applicaion with apt-get only for one user? so other users dont see that application in gnome?
[00:26] <diogo_79> what this meaning "HOME /USR/SBIN/CRON[15478]: (root) CMD ([ -x /usr/sbin/update-motd ] && /usr/sbin/update-motd 2>/dev/null)
[00:26] <diogo_79> Oct 10 21:30:01 HOME /USR/SBIN/CRON[15739]: (root) CMD ([ -x /usr/sbin/update-motd ] && /usr/sbin/update-motd 2>/dev/null)"
[00:26] <foofish> iceroot: no, not with apt-get
[00:26] <mo0nykit> ReggyLove: you could also look into AppArmor. I haven't tinkered with that, but it could be related
[00:26] <sebsebseb> CJ1: yes
[00:26] <Jordan_U> iceroot: It's possible to remove it from other user's menus
[00:26] <eL_> hi all
[00:27] <sebsebseb> CJ1: oh  nevermind thought you put Virtualbox, but I have used VMware before
[00:27] <iceroot> Jordan_U: but they still can start it from terminal
[00:27] <CJ1> Does anybody know how to set up a connection with a virtual Windows XP Machine (through VMWare) with Ubuntu Jaunty (as the host)?
[00:27] <sebsebseb> CJ1: #vmware
[00:27] <diogo_79> this was appearing just before i restart the system
[00:27] <CJ1> Thanks sebsebseb
[00:27] <eL_> my ubuntu have no sound,
[00:27] <eL_> can you help me
[00:27] <graelin> Jordan_U: Hasn't happened today... I haven't noticed anything in any of the logs... but that doesn't mean it's not there
[00:27] <diogo_79> in syslog
[00:27] <sebsebseb> CJ1: np
[00:27] <iceroot> !details | eL_
[00:27] <chris_> i have my computer connected to my tv via hdmi cord, and the screen is way to big for the tv, anyone know how i can fix this?
[00:28] <iceroot> chris_: change the resolution
[00:28] <TheFuzzball> Is it possible that the burn speed could affect whether the LiveCD boots?
[00:28] <Jordan_U> iceroot: There is no standard way, you can use unix permissions or a custom apparmor profile to prevent them from running the application
[00:28] <foofish> TheFuzzball: given sufficiently crusty hardware, yes
[00:28] <graelin> TheFuzzball: Yes.. bad burns happen all the time with livecds
[00:28] <joebodo> thefuzzball one of the options upon boot is to verify the C
[00:28] <joebodo> *CD*
[00:28] <iceroot> Jordan_U: hm, ok
[00:29] <TheFuzzball> Funny, cause when I attempt to check the CD the menu freezes :D
[00:29] <chris_> iceroot, yes i realize that but all resolutions never fix the problem in that its still always so big...
[00:29] <TheFuzzball> What is a recommeded speed to burn it at?
[00:29] <foofish> TheFuzzball: that's one for the microwave, then
[00:29] <iceroot> TheFuzzball: the lowest
[00:29] <Life`Is`Peachy> anyone
[00:29] <bonez46> I don't recall what my web server user is named.. I believe it is www-data but am unsure.. how can I find out?
[00:30] <VivaVista> Is there any way to put Ubuntu in a power saving mode, my PC always overheats when I'm playing some games, I was wondering it has a power saving option like Vista or Windows 7
[00:30] <chris_> iceroot, that is to say that the vertical settings never changed
[00:30] <Jordan_U> iceroot: What app / why do you want to prevent other users from running it?
[00:30] <Life`Is`Peachy> -> /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libjspTru64Alpha.so is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start.
[00:30] <Life`Is`Peachy> -> /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libjspTru64Alpha.so is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start.
[00:30] <eL_> iceroot, i have problem with my sound, im running at ubuntu 9 / jaunty. when i try to play mp3, but no sound
[00:30] <iceroot> bonez46: ps aux | grep apache   its www-data
[00:30] <Life`Is`Peachy> -> /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libjspAixPpc.so is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start.
[00:30] <iceroot> !mp3 | eL_
[00:30] <TheFuzzball> Thanks guys, I'll try it with lowest burn speeds
[00:31] <iceroot> Jordan_U: its just a general question after seeing today the (install only for this user at windows xp)
[00:32] <WanHouse> VivaVista: How is microsoft these days *Snickers*
[00:32] <iceroot> Jordan_U: maybe with a specal PATH or chroot
[00:32] <VivaVista> Absolutely amazing. If Grub didn't wreck the MBR I would use it :P
[00:33] <thedude42> WanHouse, you didn't go to a Win7 launch party?!?!?!
[00:33] <iceroot> !ot
[00:33] <Jordan_U> iceroot: A chroot would work but a custom PATH is easy to get around
[00:33] <VivaVista> Speaking of Which, has anyone tried Windows 7?
[00:33] <iceroot> VivaVista: ##windows
[00:33] <WanHouse> thedude42: No, but i guess you can ask that troll of a contant ;)
[00:33] <VivaVista> ugh I was only asking a question, didn't know Windows was a taboo here
[00:34] <Jordan_U> iceroot: You could also compile the app and use a prefix within your home folder
[00:34] <iceroot> VivaVista: this is the ubuntu-support channel
[00:34] <WanHouse> VivaVista: BooHoo :)
[00:34] <thedude42> VivaVista, ignore the zelots, they know not what they do ;)
[00:34] <graelin> Er.. Windows is a taboo EVERYWHERE.. nearly sunk the british navy
[00:34] <iceroot> Jordan_U: others can read the home-dir :)
[00:35] <Jordan_U> iceroot: Only if you let them :)
[00:35] <Life`Is`Peachy> so
[00:35] <foofish> iceroot: not if you don't want them to
[00:35] <Flannel> VivaVista: It's offtopic here, you should try #ubuntu-offtopic (this channel is for support only, not chat)
[00:35] <Life`Is`Peachy> anyine can help with those libjspAixPpc.so
[00:35] <VivaVista> Alright
[00:35] <Life`Is`Peachy> and libjspTru64Alpha.so
[00:35] <VivaVista> #Ubuntu-offtopic
[00:35] <VivaVista> oops
[00:35] <iceroot> foofish: Jordan_U sometims "world/others" need the right to read, so chmod 700 is not working always
[00:36] <foofish> iceroot: use a subdirectory
[00:36] <iceroot> hm, ~/apps/ with chmod 700 should work :)
[00:37] <Jordan_U> iceroot: It's usually not as much an issue of what users should be able to run what as it is what they should be able to change more generally, which policykit lets you choose quite well. That said I think it would probably be good to have a distinction between system packages and user packages which is not currently compatible with the way apt/dpkg work
[00:37] <Pyro_> I want to be able to set up a linux box that can manage internal NAT and DHCP tables for a small business.  connected to the linux routers will be 2 cable modems I want to load balance and at times, give exclusive access to from certian PCs.  what should I be reading to do this?
[00:38] <iceroot> Jordan_U: yes, so ./configure with a home-dir is an option
[00:38] <Pyrophelia> or I guess the most important question, is that even possible?
[00:38] <foofish> iceroot: which, by the way, is probably going to be an option for all of the users on your machine
[00:38] <teknozwizard> ...(sighs)....why is my SPM acting up again.....(sighs)....
[00:39] <WanHouse> Pyrophelia: gadmin-dhcpd (easy to use dhcpd server configuration gui). Firestarter to build the firewall and NAT.
[00:39] <foofish> iceroot: unless you take steps to secure the compiler
[00:39] <iceroot> foofish: that is not the problem what others can install
[00:39] <arleslie> I have accidently basically disabled a user while trying to make it a second root user, and I have no idea what the root password is, anything I can do?
[00:39] <joebodo> Pyro_ not sure you can load balance ...
[00:39] <iceroot> foofish: its more, others should not see all apps by default
[00:39] <Pyrophelia> :(
[00:39] <WanHouse> Pyrophelia ?
[00:39] <Jordan_U> arleslie: What exactly did you do?
[00:39] <graelin> Pyrophelia: Search Linux Router on google... should get a zillion hits
[00:39] <iceroot> foofish: only see what they need
[00:40] <arleslie> Jordan_U, I ran sudo adduser and added to the root group, then I used moduser -g root to make root the default group and removed all the other groups from the user
[00:40] <foofish> iceroot: well, removing them from the gui would probably be enough, then. i'm not sure why you'd want to try to stop them seeing them as tab-completions in the terminal too
[00:40] <Pyrophelia> graelin, i've read quite a bit, but I can't find out how to load balance the cable modems
[00:40] <joebodo> Pryo not sure that is possible
[00:41] <WanHouse> Pyrophelia: Its called bondig
[00:41] <joebodo> Pyro or that you would even want that
[00:41] <WanHouse> Pyrophelia: Its called bonding
[00:41] <iceroot> foofish: i dont want to disable for e.g. evolution on 50 accounts by hand and only 2 users can see it
[00:41] <foofish> iceroot: maybe you want to put your users in a chroot jail :)
[00:41] <Pyrophelia> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/ is pretty nice but it only talks about load balancing between other linux routers
[00:41] <arleslie> Jordan_U, so now I can't run sudo any more, and I don't have root access, so I basically can't do anything
[00:41] <ubuntu> can anyone suggest how to find CPU temp in Ubuntu ?
[00:41] <iceroot> foofish: yes, chroot was my thinking too
[00:41] <m0r0n> How do I install something when I downloaded it and there is no make file
[00:42] <Jordan_U> arleslie: You can start in single user mode
[00:42] <WanHouse> Pyrophelia: Why anyone wouldnt want to utilize full internet speed at all times ill never understand.
[00:42] <foofish> iceroot: i'm pretty sure you could script the gui tweaks
[00:42] <iceroot> m0r0n: what program?
[00:42] <Jordan_U> arleslie: Or chroot from a liveCD
[00:42] <Pyrophelia> WanHouse: i'm pretty sure that's different
[00:42] <m0r0n> iceroot: Nexuiz
[00:42] <WanHouse> Pyrophelia: Why ?
[00:42] <netbook> Anyone know how to install shmfs kernel module?
[00:42] <arleslie> Jordan_U, how would I use chroot? I can't use single user mode as that is started as default - running BackTrack
[00:42] <Jordan_U> arleslie: Note that you probably actually wanted to add the user to the "admin" group so that had privilege to use sudo
[00:43] <graelin> Pyrophelia: Try this yet? http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/how-to-load-balancing-failover-with-dual-multi-wan-adsl-cable-connections-on-linux/
[00:43] <arleslie> Jordan_U, well it was already an admin, I just wanted to have a second root user and well it back fired on me
[00:43] <leo___> I installed apache2 in ubuntu. From a client, I can't open in browser http://<IP_ADDRESS>, but it works in the same machine, i.e the server. Why is this so?
[00:43] <iceroot> m0r0n: sudo apt-get install nexuiz
[00:43] <Jordan_U> arleslie: I don't think having a "second root user" makes much sense
[00:43] <iceroot> m0r0n: its in the repos 8.04 - 9.04
[00:44] <Pyrophelia> WanHouse: I will be binding 2 gigE cards to our switch using LACP (Link Aggregation Control Protocol), but that is only possible because I control the switch.  the cable modems are different because I have no access to the circuit they connect to so I can't use them like T1 circuits
[00:44] <m0r0n> iceroot: It installs a  version that is 334mb, when I got it off the site it's 888mb or something I think that one is outdated
[00:44] <arleslie> Jordan_U, well I never knew the root password, so I was going to make another root user so I wouldn't have to type sudo all the time.
[00:44] <graelin> Pyrophelia: Looks like transparent failover will be less than trivial, but doable
[00:44] <Jordan_U> arleslie: You boot from a LiveCD, mount your /partition, then run "sudo chroot /path/to/mountpoint"
[00:44] <iceroot> m0r0n: apt-cache show nexuiz will tell you the version
[00:44] <Pyrophelia> god if I could etherbond 2 cable modems I'd love it
[00:45] <Jordan_U> arleslie: You could have changed the root password with "sudo passwd" or, even better, just used "sudo -s" to get a root shell
[00:45] <arleslie> Jordan_U, what else do I need to do
[00:45] <arleslie> thanks
[00:45] <Pyrophelia> well that's a lie, i'd rather etherbond to FiOS lines but we can't get FiOS in the office :(
[00:45] <Pyrophelia> s/to/two
[00:45] <infid> i added 'term screen-256color' to my .screenrc in ubuntu but it's still showing TERM=screen. any idea why?
[00:45] <netbook> Anyone know how to install shm filesystem?
[00:46] <m0r0n> iceroot: Ok it's outdated
[00:46] <WanHouse> Pyrophelia: Its like for security ? To be able to remove a line and avoid something else affecting nets ?
[00:46] <Pyrophelia> graelin, i'm reading that post now, ty.
[00:46] <iceroot> m0r0n: then use the install instuctions from the website or look for a *.deb
[00:46] <iceroot> m0r0n: maybe its a binary you download, so no need to install
[00:48] <Royall> Ubuntu should impliment something similar to Google's Product Ideas
[00:48] <Pyrophelia> WanHouse: we don't need redundancy, it's a relatively stable connection.  but it's cable so it gets bogged down pretty quick.  I'd like the router to load balance the cable modems so when 1 modem reaches it's peak bandwidth the router directs traffic at the other modem.  Or when somebody needs to send a critical upload, nobody else can use the modem the uploader needs
[00:48] <Royall> that the developers would actually /review/
[00:48] <foofish> Royall: it exists, i think
[00:48] <dhillon-v10> hi all, I need some help with eclipse and bzr integration I just can't get it working
[00:49] <iceroot> !details | dhillon-v10
[00:49] <foofish> Royall: brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[00:49] <Pyrophelia> WanHouse: we use comcast at our office and the upload service is terrible.  if somebody starts to download anything (www.google.com) when your uploading, the upload stream drops to ~4KBps or less.  and takes a very long time for it to reach a respectable speed again
 hi, I installed the bzr plugin for eclipse I want to use the team features what should I do
[00:50] <Pyrophelia> I want something that will let me set some pretty specific exceptions.  such as mac:00:00:00:00 is uploading to ip:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx route all other traffic to cable modem 2
[00:50] <netbook> I am getting error "Unknown filesystem shmfs"
[00:50] <iceroot> dhillon-v10: ask in #eclipse
[00:50] <yuri__> need some help with chmod. how do i make a read only file writable?
 thanks for help
[00:50] <WanHouse> Pyrophelia: Ouch ;) ... Ok, then bonding (etherbonding) could be neat.
[00:51] <Jordan_U> netbook: What are you trying to do / Where are you seeing that error?
[00:51] <Pyrophelia> WanHouse, I would love to etherbond the modems, but my understanding of the technology means I can't bond cable modems unless I get access to the circuit on comcasts side, which will never happen
[00:51] <Pyrophelia> WanHouse, they're already trying to sell us a fractional T1 for $700/month
[00:51] <Pyrophelia> not even a T3, T1 for gods sake
[00:51] <iceroot> yuri__: r=4,w=2,x=1  so if you want read, write and execute use the 7 (4+2+1), if you want only read use 4 (4+0+0) and that for you,group and others, so chmod 755 would be rwx,r-x,r-x
[00:52] <WanHouse> Pyrophelia: Hefty note. google for the bonding. Its not that hard
[00:52] <NeoCicak> hi.... i'm having problem with rdesktop..... if i tried to scroll down the window (on remote desktop, obviously), the refresh rate is so slow (i.e sluggish). this does not happen on windows, running inside virtual box on the same machine...
[00:52] <Pyrophelia> <insert bad word here> comcast
[00:52] <WanHouse> hehe
[00:52] <yuri__> iceroot: thanks
[00:52] <iceroot> yuri__: so chmod 755 file  will put rwx,r-x,r-x file
[00:52] <Pyrophelia> WanHouse, I know how to etherbond, what I'm saying is I can't do that to cable modems.  that is unless my understanding is radically missinformed
[00:53] <joebodo> Pyro why not use QOS
[00:53] <WanHouse> QOS for Priority, yeah
[00:53] <Pyrophelia> joebodo, a lack of understanding of what it is.
[00:53] <netbook> Joran_U I am trying to get mpd to work... i have shmfs in my fstab but it is an 'unknown parition'
[00:53] <Pyrophelia> i'll read up on it
[00:54] <netbook> Jordan_U do you know the apt-get pkg or kernel module I can download to get it working?
[00:54] <WanHouse> "Quality Of Service"... Degrade for some...
[00:54] <NeoCicak> what do people here use to do remote desktop to windows machine?
[00:54] <Pyrophelia> degrade for some
[00:54] <Pyrophelia> what do you mean by that
[00:54] <iceroot> NeoCicak: vnc
[00:54] <joebodo> PYro AFAIK you can balance traffic between modems - but you can use routing rules
[00:55] <NeoCicak> iceroot...hmm... not rdp? i'm having trouble to get full screen on vnc
[00:55] <joebodo> Pyro but it sounds more like a qos issue
[00:55] <iceroot> NeoCicak: i am using vnc, i dont know rdp, sorry
[00:55] <WanHouse> Pyrophelia: Degrade/Upgrade/etcgrade as it suits your setup.
[00:55] <matelot> hi when I use GnuPG on commandline - how to disable the pop up dialog for passphrase ?
[00:56] <Pyrophelia> joebodo, na, that's just par for the course for comcast around here.  it was same thing when I had it in my home
[00:56] <devdude> can I easily (using cryptsetup) change a volume that uses a password to a keyfile that automounts instead?
[00:56] <devdude> I suppose I'd have to mess with pam a bit, but big deal
[00:56] <Pyrophelia> joebodo, switched to FiOS and have never been happier.
[00:56] <WanHouse> matelot: unsetenv GNOME_SSH_ASKPASS (or something like it)
[00:57] <matelot> ok let me google that thanks wanhouse
[00:57] <WanHouse> matelot: "unset"
[00:57] <WanHouse> np
[00:57] <netbook> NeoCicak rdesktop is used to remote into windows machines
[00:57] <codebrainz> has anyone gotten 3 monitors working with 2 video cards with Compiz?
[00:58] <Pyrophelia> codebrainz, I did awhile ago but it had a bad bug, I had to disable my desktop
[00:58] <codebrainz> Pyrophelia: what bug?
[00:58] <Pyrophelia> I had to disable my desktop meaning no icons
[00:58] <devdude> anyone have experience using cryptsetup?
[00:59] <Pyrophelia> also, you had to create a desktop wall paper that would span the combined resolution of all the monitors
[00:59] <codebrainz> Pyrophelia: so if I disable my desktop, it will let me enable Compiz effects?
[00:59] <Jordan_U> netbook: What are you trying to do?
[00:59] <netbook> Joran_U I am trying to get mpd to work... i have shmfs in my fstab but it is an 'unknown parition'
[00:59] <netbook> Jordan_U do you know the apt-get pkg or kernel module I can download to get it working?
[00:59] <iarp> hey, installed 9.04 server 3 or 4 days ago, all it does is openssh, apache, php,mysql, and a few other programs. Everyday at 08:30:15 the system log reports eth0 goes down and it would seem the computer shutdown as all other logs stop at that exact time and dont continue until i physically turn it back on
[01:00] <codebrainz> Pyrophelia: I'm using Xinerama enabled through the NVidia driver utility
[01:00] <Pyrophelia> codebrainz, your best bet is to ask the guys in the #compiz channel.  it's been awhile since i've used it, infact my linux box has been in run level 3 for almost a year
[01:00] <david__> I will pay someone $50 to help me get synaptics to stop seeing any 'rub' as a double click.
[01:00] <codebrainz> Pyrophelia: hahaha, ok
[01:00] <arielCo> Hello everyone. I installed {totem-xine,w32codecs,gstreamer0.10-pitfdll} so Totem could play WMA9 from a video. (it said "Missing plugin: gstreamer|0.10|totem|Windows Media Audio 9 decoder|decoder-audio/x-wma"). Nothing has improved - same message. What now?
[01:00] <david__> Paypal! I'm on the latest ubuntu
[01:00] <Jordan_U> netbook: How did you install mpd?
[01:00] <mo0nykit> Does OpenBox have virtual desktops?
[01:00] <netbook> Jordan_U apt-get install mpd
[01:00] <Jordan_U> mo0nykit: Yes
[01:01] <Jordan_U> netbook: Strange, it works for me without error in jaunty
[01:01] <netbook> Jordan_U do you know how to install the shm filesystem?
[01:01] <Jimmio> beta support in #ubuntu+1, right?
[01:01] <Flannel> Jimmio: yes
[01:01] <devdude> David__: hehe same issue here I forgot to install the synaptics tool as well
[01:02] <devdude> there is a synaptics package for ubuntu
[01:02] <devdude> I'm gonna try it out myself, maybe it will fix the issue
[01:02] <CarlFK> um... why does my numpad work on ubuntu box A but not B?  numlock light goes on/off, but in either state it ignores those keys (doesn't even arrow)
[01:02] <mo0nykit> Jordan_U: thanks. I'm gonna try it out now
[01:02] <devdude> david__: also, there is a guide on how to disable the touchpad while typing
[01:02] <Jordan_U> netbook: I think that shmfs is not ramfs, though I am not sure. And the mpd package should depend on anything you would need so I don't think installing anything will fix the error you are getting
[01:02] <Jordan_U> netbook: *now
[01:03] <mo0nykit> Does openbox also have the scale (expose in Mac) feature like in compiz?
[01:03] <netbook> Jordan_U ok
[01:03] <sixto> D
[01:04] <david__> devdude: hm! link? Problem is mine totally ignores my Xorg.conf references
[01:04] <devdude> devdude: lemme find you the guide
[01:04] <m0r0n> iceroot:  All the site said was to unzip and run, but whenI click on the exe it just says it can't
[01:04] <devdude> I will try it with you because I have the same annoyances
[01:04] <devdude> oops
[01:04] <devdude> haha
[01:04] <devdude> I meant david__
[01:04] <devdude> ugh
[01:04] <FloodBot1> devdude: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:04] <david__> It's rather annoying to be honest, I'm on the verge of installing windows as a result. I send ~400 emails a day and honestly, it clicks 2-3 times per email
[01:04] <Jordan_U> mo0nykit: No, you need a window manager that uses glx_texture_from_pixmap ( 3D compositing ) to do that. openbox + xcompmgr might let you do it but I doubt it
[01:05] <devdude> david__: its annoying the hell out of me as well.
[01:05] <mo0nykit> Jordan_U: thanks! memo to self: xcompmgr
[01:05] <david__> I fixed it before on my ibm t42
[01:05] <david__> but it won't sort itself on this x301
[01:06] <david__> anywhom, will pay anyone who helps me sort it. paypal! :p
[01:06] <devdude> david__: you have the input device stuff for the touchpad?
[01:06] <KnifeySpooney> I can't boot into Ubuntu and I think it's because I don't have upstart. When I start in an emergency bash shell and run 'ls /sbin', there is not a file named 'upstart'
[01:06] <KnifeySpooney> Is this normal?
[01:06] <sebsebseb> KnifeySpooney: your on 9.10?
[01:06] <david__> no sir. I had this http://paste2.org/p/462530 -- but the new version commented it out
[01:06] <KnifeySpooney> sebsebseb: yes
[01:06] <KnifeySpooney> i'm in ubuntu+1
[01:06] <sebsebseb> KnifeySpooney: ok you want this channel then #ubuntu+1
[01:06] <Jordan_U> KnifeySpooney: Are you sure you are not at a "busybox" shell?
[01:07] <n8tuser> whats the usual key combo to awaken a laptop from hibernation?
[01:07] <jana_> hey
[01:07] <jana_> anyone
[01:07] <jana_> ?,
[01:07] <devdude> david__: hmm that looks right.. and you put it under serverlayout as well?
[01:07] <sebsebseb> jana_: hi
[01:07] <WanHouse> sebsebseb: 3 strike rule
[01:07] <jana_> does anyone know how to use Qcad
[01:07] <jana_> ??
[01:08] <KnifeySpooney> sebsebseb: I added to the end of my kernel command line: 'init=/sbin/sulogin'
[01:08] <sebsebseb> jana_: What's that?
[01:08] <nibbler> jana_: i used it once
[01:08]  * david__ hms.
[01:08] <jana_> its a cad program
[01:08] <jana_> for architecture
[01:08] <sebsebseb> jana_: For Windows?
[01:08] <jana_> no
[01:08] <nibbler> jana_: still, please dont ask metaquestions, just ask what you really want to know
[01:08] <WanHouse> Its OSS
[01:08] <jana_> for linux
[01:08] <jana_> ubuntu
[01:08] <david__> don't have a serverlayout section
[01:08] <kolby> what new is going to be in 9.10?
[01:09] <devdude> david__: sec
[01:09] <sebsebseb> kolby: ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:09] <devdude> david__: first off.. you have a mouse configured in there right?
[01:09] <jana_> i wna know how to mesure a line
[01:09] <NeoCicak> netbook: yes, i'm connecting to windows machine
[01:09] <david__> no sir, no mouse
[01:09] <nibbler> jana_: no idea how this can be done
[01:09] <devdude> david__: is there any mouse or touchpad configured?
[01:09] <jana_> nibbler:thnk u
[01:10] <david__> http://paste2.org/p/462534 is what I've got
[01:10] <david__> pretty much
[01:10] <iceroot> mo0nykit: exe? download a linux-version please
[01:10] <devdude> nada?
[01:10] <Jordan_U> david__: Have you tried "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#Disabling the Touchpad Temporarily While Typing"
[01:10] <mo0nykit> iceroot: uhh.. is that msg for me? i didn't ask anything about exe...
[01:11] <iceroot> m0r0n: exe? download a linux-version please
[01:11] <iceroot> mo0nykit: sorry, to similar (strange) nicks
[01:11] <mo0nykit> iceroot: np :)
[01:11] <shazbotmcnasty> my cd/dvd drive fails to work. It's recognized in the BIOS, but not after the operating system loads.
[01:12]  * david__ hms..
[01:12] <shazbotmcnasty> I tried to load a live disk, and that doesn't work either.
[01:12] <david__> Yeah, never could get the touchpad config working Jordan_U
[01:12] <david__> the 'shmconfig' reference never took effect
[01:12] <david__> probably because I'm missing serverlayout.. /me wonders.
[01:12] <devdude> david__: do you have the driver installed itself?
[01:12] <nibbler> shazbotmcnasty: you sure its not broken?
[01:12] <devdude> david__: under servrelayout, you put every input device basicly
[01:13]  * david__ has xorg-synaptics-driver installed
[01:13] <devdude> k..
[01:13] <shazbotmcnasty> nibbler, it lights up on startup, and is recognized in the BIOS - and when I insert a cd it tried to read it....
[01:14] <kankan_> how to install comipiz?using intel.
[01:14] <IdleOne> !intel | kankan_
[01:15] <Jordan_U> kankan_: Compiz is installed by default, just few effects are enabled.
[01:15] <WanHouse> kankan_: What you really should ask is this: What driver do i need for graphics card X. Compis doesnt care much as long as xorg has an OpenGL driver
[01:15] <kankan_> i have just installed 9.10.want enable desktop cube
[01:16] <Jordan_U> !karmic | kankan_
[01:16] <kankan_> wanhouse:what to do then?i am a beginner.
[01:16] <mo0nykit> Where can I find help on editing ubuntu wikis? I'd like to contribute a solution
[01:16] <canthus13> kankan_: /join #ubuntu+1 and ask in there.
[01:16] <WanHouse> kankan_: http://www.google.se/#hl=sv&source=hp&q=howto+unbuntu+compiz+cube&btnG=Google-s%C3%B6kning&meta=&aq=f&oq=howto+unbuntu+compiz+cube&fp=381c864546feee36
[01:17] <theoo> what permissions should i use for my /var/www and for my moodle directories ???
[01:17] <MenZa> mo0nykit: What do you need help with?
[01:17] <canthus13> kankan_: 9.10 isn't supported in here until october 29th.
[01:17] <olrrai> hi
[01:17] <olrrai> do u know how to auto replacing when emerald die by an error ?
[01:18] <mint> Hello!  I was in the middle of an update when I accidentally knocked the power cord from the back of the computer and it shut down - now cant
[01:18] <unkmar> I am seriously considering a reinstall of my linux.  Like I use to do with my Broken Windows box.
[01:18] <mint> start gdm
[01:18] <MenZa> mo0nykit: You'll need to login to edit - and as far as I cant ell, that requires a !launchpad account these days.
[01:19] <MenZa> mint: Try running an fsck - do 'sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown now' - this'll shut down your computer and force an fsck on startup
[01:19] <WanHouse> mint: reinstall it
[01:19] <MenZa> WanHouse: That's hardly useful.
[01:19] <WanHouse> mint: after doing what MenZa told you
[01:19] <KyleK__> !systemrequirements
[01:20] <theoo> what permissions should i use for my /var/www
[01:20] <MenZa> KyleK__: Keyword: not a whole lot.
[01:20] <mo0nykit> MenZa: I have been able to log to edit a wiki. But I don't know where to type in my solution. I'm looking to contribute something related to the following topics http://paste.ubuntu.com/290415/
[01:20] <MenZa> theoo: Personally, I chmod mine to 755, and make sure it's owned by www-data
[01:20] <Ghone> I'm suddenly having a no audio issue with flash movies under Jaunty.   This is a very recent development.  Both flashplug-installer and gnash fail to produce audio.  What should I be looking for?
[01:20] <WanHouse> MenZa: Installing binaries is just like copying files.
[01:20] <FoolishOwl> mint, aside from that, synaptic should be able to detect broken packages.
[01:20] <mint> so its not a good idea to try to save my install?
[01:20] <RegressLess> why does gnome-panel use half of my cpu most of the time?
[01:21] <WanHouse> MenZa: If you pull the power itll be half done.
[01:21] <dandaman> something odd
[01:21] <dandaman> my speakers arent as loud in ubuntu compared to windows
[01:21] <KyleK__> MenZa: i fired up the 9.04 livecd with only 256mb of ram on a p2, i just looked online and it says 384 :(
[01:21] <Hodapp> how can I figure out what is holding the audio device open?
[01:21] <dandaman> when i have the same volume settings
[01:21] <shazbotmcnasty> Does anyone have any idea on how to mount my cd/dvd drive
[01:21] <MenZa> mo0nykit: Read at the top - it says "Login to Edit" - alternatively "Edit" if you are logged in
[01:21] <Hodapp> this happens too often... sound will work for a few days, then every program will either crash or say it's busy
[01:21] <shazbotmcnasty> it's a GSA-416 LG drive
[01:21] <MenZa> KyleK__: It'll run on that system, but you will probably want the alternate CD instead... and stay away from GNOME - use Xfce instead.
[01:21] <WanHouse> MenZa: /MenZa ;)
[01:21] <MenZa> (or an even lighter DE/WM)
[01:22] <shazbotmcnasty> I checked in /etc/fstab and it's not listed, that file only lists my hdd partitions
[01:22] <KyleK__> does the alternate cd give me a menu to make a raid1?
[01:22] <MenZa> mint: I'm an idiot, I didn't read the upgrade part.
[01:22] <shazbotmcnasty> although I'm not sure if it's suppoed to
[01:22] <MenZa> Also, @WanHouse
[01:22] <KyleK__> I'm just trying to avoid having to set up a software raid myself :)
[01:22] <graelin> shazbotmcnasty: mount /dev/sd0 /media/dvd
[01:22] <WanHouse> np
[01:22] <MenZa> mint: Force an fsck, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f
[01:23] <mo0nykit> MenZa: yes I have already logged in. I need help on where to contribute. It's related to the three topics I listed. There is probably an #ubuntuwiki channel or something. Like #blenderwiki for blender
[01:23] <KyleK__> MenZa: do you know of i can install to a software raid1 with the alternate cd?
[01:23] <mint> can anyone refresh me on CLI network commands in case that doesn't work?
[01:23] <MenZa> mo0nykit: I don't think there is one, no.
[01:23] <MenZa> KyleK__: I'd assume so - the alternate CD is much more flexible than the Desktop CD.
[01:23] <Brando753> is there a way to prevent someone from changing your password in recovery mode?
[01:23] <Flannel> mo0nykit: Try #ubuntu-doc
[01:23] <mint> MenZa: what's the "install -f" part?
[01:24] <MenZa> mo0nykit: What Flannel said.
[01:24] <Flannel> Brando753: Don't let them get to the recovery mode
[01:24] <Hodapp> Anybody ever encountered this? fuser -v /dev/snd/* says nothing's using sound, but all the programs say it's busy.
[01:24] <RegressLess> can I make gnome-panel more efficient?
[01:24] <mo0nykit> Flannel, MenZa: okay thanks :)
[01:24] <MenZa> mint: It force-installs all packages that are on your system, but haven't been installed yet (from update-manager)
[01:24] <Brando753> Flannel: and if this is a public computer how would i acheive this?
[01:24] <shazbotmcnasty> graelin, http://pastebin.com/m9e167f7
[01:24] <MenZa> mint: I like to see of it as checking whether something's broken or not, and if so, fix it.
[01:24] <natestewat> my windows wont minimize to my tool bar how do i change that
[01:25] <KyleK__> hrm or i could do server, too many choices :)
[01:25] <mint> what's the restart networking command please?
[01:25] <Pyrophelia> if en0 down
[01:26] <Pyrophelia> aif en0 up
[01:26] <Pyrophelia> er if en0 up
[01:26] <RegressLess> can I make gnome-panel more efficient?
[01:26] <Pyrophelia> mint, is it wireless or ethernet?
[01:26] <Brando753> Flannel: and if this is a public computer how would i acheive this?
[01:26] <mint> Pyrophelia: wireless -sorry forgot to say that
[01:26] <RegressLess> or can I replace gnome-panel with something more efficient, but also customizable?
[01:27] <Pyrophelia> mint: type ifconfig and see which interface is grabbing the ip
[01:27] <natestewat> i cant minimize my windows without them disappearing how do i fix this?
[01:27] <Pyrophelia> mint: or is the problem that it's not grabbing an ip
[01:27] <Flannel> Brando753: putting a GRUB password on the recovery console entries would be one way, you'll also need ot lock down booting from CDs/USB/etc too
[01:27] <mint> Pyrophelia: it wlan0 - its not grabbing an IP
[01:27] <Brando753> Flannel: so a bios and a grub password?
[01:28] <Pyrophelia> mint: have you configured the ssid and password?
[01:28] <infid> i added 'term screen-256color' to my .screenrc in ubuntu but it's still showing TERM=screen any idea what could be setting TERM to screen, overriding my ~/.screenrc. as far as i can see /etc/profile, .bashrc and /etc/screenrc arent doing it
[01:28] <Flannel> Brando753: If a BIOS password also prevents booting to other media, yeah.  (You can configure it to do so, but Iw on't claim it does by itself)
[01:28] <mint> Pyrophelia: open at moment
[01:29] <graelin> shazbotmcnasty: check /dev and see if its showing up... sd(x), dvd(x) scd(x) cdrw(x) cdrom(x) etc. If it's being seen, these are somethings they could be identified as
[01:29] <Pyrophelia> mint: ok you can try: sudo if wlan0 down
[01:29] <Brando753> Flannel: im not familiar with working on grub, how would i set a password on those entries?
[01:29] <Pyrophelia> sudo if wlan0 up
[01:29] <Pyrophelia> Pyrophelia, but it doesn't see the SSID it's a moot point
[01:30] <mint> okay -- thanks all for the help - crossing my fingers I dont' screw this up :)
[01:30] <[TSK]> Greeting.  Which channel is best to ask questions about 9.10?
[01:30] <gabe__> hello fellows, I just have a quick question. I'm trying to view an online course which tries to use Shockwave web player and since I don't have it, firefox directs me to the adobe web site to download it. Now, I figured there isn't a version for Linux but in firefox under Preferences and the Applications tab, there is a Shockwave file configuration that has Play within Firefox selected, however it does not work
[01:30] <graelin> shazbotmcnasty: This is the entry I have in my fstab: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[01:30] <gabe__> how do I get around this please?
[01:30] <Flannel> Brando753: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#Security will explain a bit, be sure to ask if you have questions
[01:30] <natestewat> i cant minimize my windows without them disappearing can someone help me please
[01:30] <jwfoxjr> 3
[01:30] <Pyrophelia> mint: gl
[01:31] <WanHouse> I passed my UrQuan exams ;)
[01:31] <graelin> shazbotmcnasty: You can try perusing the dmesg output and see if it's choking somewhere
[01:31] <Flannel> infid: Make sure you have ncurses-base installed
[01:31] <shazbotmcnasty> graelin, this is my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m49c59ed5
[01:31] <bubble-red> I need some quick help, I cannot load the Ubuntu live CD. I get a kernel panic error any way to get this working ?
[01:32] <infid> Flannel i do, i can manuall export TERM=screen-256color and it works
[01:32] <[TSK]> Is anyone here using the latest 9.10 betas and having trouble with nvidia mouse pointer being invisible?
[01:32] <shazbotmcnasty> graelin, I would just do that by trying to run a cd and then enter dmesg | tail ?
[01:32] <Flannel> infid: Hmm, Did you restart screen once you changed the rc?
[01:32] <infid> Flannel yes
[01:32] <merlin_> usser, are you there?
[01:32] <Flannel> infid: I... had this problem, let me look back and see what I did to fix it
[01:32] <infid> Flannel k thanks
[01:33] <Flannel> infid: Ah! try ncurses-term
[01:33] <roffe> [TSK], #ubuntu+1 for talk about 9.10
[01:33] <canthus13> bubble-red: Re-burn the CD.
[01:33] <[TSK]> TY, roffe
[01:33] <Comrade-Sergei> How do i get the audio to go to external speakers on a unibody macbook pro?
[01:33] <canthus13> bubble-red: Just re-burn it at the lowest speed you can.
[01:33] <bubble-red> canthus13: I have tried other linux live CD's with the same result but I will try re-burning the CD
[01:34] <infid> Flannel just installed ncurses-term but it didnt change it
[01:34] <canthus13> bubble-red: Just remember to use the absolute lowest speed.
[01:34] <Flannel> infid: and then, I use screen-256color-bce, -bce is probably OK for you too.
[01:34] <infid> flannel i think it might be because of the ~/.screen-profiles/
[01:35] <infid> i'll try -bce first though
[01:35] <Flannel> infid: I've no experience with screen profiles, so sure.
[01:35] <gabe__> hello fellows, I just have a quick question. I'm trying to view an online course which tries to use Shockwave web player and since I don't have it, firefox directs me to the adobe web site to download it. Now, I figured there isn't a version for Linux but in firefox under Preferences and the Applications tab, there is a Shockwave file configuration that has Play within Firefox selected, however it does not work
[01:35] <bubble-red> canthus13: ummm I never thought that was important but thanks for the tip
[01:35] <alexander> hy people
[01:35] <Flannel> infid: I've also got `defbce "on"` in my screenrc too (before the term), not sure if that'd matter.
[01:35] <FoolishOwl> gabe__, there are some free versions of Flash, but they're still in beta, and I'm not sure if they'd work for you.
[01:36] <FoolishOwl> You could install Flash, following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[01:36] <gabe__> FoolishOwl, thanks for your reply but my issue is with shockwave
[01:36] <FoolishOwl> gabe__, I think Shockwave was folding into Flash years ago.
[01:36] <tiger> Hi all
[01:37] <tiger> hello?
[01:37] <FoolishOwl> Er, folded into.
[01:37] <bobbob1016> I'm trying to create a raid with mdadm, but it says two of the devices are being used, and I am sure they aren't being used by me, and sudo lsof /dev/sda1 doesn't show anything using them.
[01:37] <devdude> using the hal .fdi xml files, could I modify the driver of an active piece of harder?
[01:37] <dandaman> how come in ubuntu my speakers are less loud than windows?
[01:38] <tiger> I was wondering if anyone has resolved an issue with the id3 tag demuxer in Jaunty and how they did it
[01:38] <devdude> dandaman: are you sure your volume is not at max?
[01:38] <Comrade-Sergei> How do i get the audio to go to external speakers on a unibody macbook pro?
[01:38] <dandaman> dev dude, when my volume is very low on windows my house shakes(i have klipsch 4.1's)
[01:38] <dandaman> maybe like volume :5 on windows 7
[01:38] <gabe__> foolishOwn: however I've got flash installed and the website asks for shockwave specifically
[01:38] <canthus13> dandaman: go to the command line, run alsamixer.  See if something is turned down there.
[01:38] <dandaman> and on ubuntu my volume is like halfway
[01:38] <dandaman> yeah im on alsamixer
[01:39] <dandaman> pcm is 100%
[01:39] <scunizi> dandaman: klipsch are very efficent.. lots of db per wat
[01:39] <majnoon> i have an intersting question has anyone tried using the ir port on a palm pilot as a lirc device ??
[01:39] <alexander> how i can use usenext on ubuntu
[01:39]  * Hdmandude slaps a large trout around a bit with devdude
[01:39] <FoolishOwl> gabe__, looks like I was wrong. Unfortunately, it seems that Shockwave only works on Windows, at least according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[01:39] <tiger> I've already installed the restricted extras but I can't get rhythmbox to play Mp3s
[01:39] <WanHouse> dandaman: Crank the pulseaudio volme dood
[01:39] <canthus13> tiger: Does it give you an error?
[01:40] <mluser-home> Hello, anyone here have experience with lirc infrared remotes and gnome, I have a working .lircrc file and it works fine with irexec, but is there a gnome daemon that starts when I log in so I dont have to execute the irexec manually each time I log in?
[01:40] <tiger> Yeah it says I'm missing the id3 tag demuxer plugin
[01:40]  * Hdmandude slaps a large trout around a bit with tiger
[01:41] <gabe__> foolishOwn: isn't there a way around it then?
[01:41] <tiagoboldt> hi, karmic + hd radeon cards, how to get hardware acceleration? tried radeon and radeonhd, but none support xv video output
[01:41] <WanHouse> tiger: Install gstreamer-plugins*
[01:41] <tiger> I did
[01:41] <FoolishOwl> gabe__, that page suggests using Wine, and then there's a convuluted process to get it to work in Firefox.
[01:41] <johnsny> when i open my domain.com i want to open this domain.com/folder how to make that?
[01:41] <tiger> The good, bad, and ugly along with the bad and ugly multiverses
[01:42] <canthus13> tiger: According to the post I was reading on the forums, it's a long standing bug that hasn't (And likely won't be_ fixed.
[01:42] <canthus13> tiger: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1217104
[01:42] <tiger> One forum said the guy fixed it but he didn't say how.
[01:42] <WanHouse> tiger: Restarted rhythmbox afterwards ?
[01:43] <mluser-home> Is there an equivalent to kde's irkick for gnome?
[01:43] <bobo123_> why does grep doesn't work
[01:43] <canthus13> bobo123_: What do you mean?
[01:43] <bobo123_> i do cat my_file | grep ???[abc]*, and it shows nothing
[01:43] <WanHouse> johnsny: Whats the servers name serving the folder ?
[01:43] <bobo123_> and my file has line where the fourth character is a or b or c
[01:43] <johnsny> when i open domain.com i want to open this domain.com/folder how to make that?
[01:44] <WanHouse> ^
[01:44] <tiger> no luck.  still the same messages
[01:44] <canthus13> bobo123_: Ah. That's a little beyond me. I suck at regular expressions.
[01:44] <bobo123_> canthus13: ok
[01:44] <WanHouse> tiger: Compression format is ?
[01:44] <bobo123_> tiger: any suggestion about grep?
[01:45] <WanHouse> bobo123_: Bozo ? :)
[01:45] <tiger> sorry those questions are outside my expertise.  Can you guys explain?
[01:45] <WanHouse> tiger: mp3, etc
[01:46] <tiger> oh mp3
[01:46] <bobo123_> WanHouse: what do you mean?
[01:46] <WanHouse> tiger: Can you play anything at all ?
[01:47] <tiger> I can play CD's but not MP3's
[01:47] <WanHouse> bobo123_: "man grep"
[01:47] <WanHouse> tiger: Wav's work but not mp3. Try other music files to pinpoint the failure
[01:48] <dandaman> anyone got any ideas as to why my speakers are weaker on ubuntu?
[01:49] <bobo123_> WanHouse: so ?? is an extended pattern, wow
[01:49] <infid> anyone know a better terminal than gnome-terminal?
[01:49] <tiger> Wanhouse: like what?
[01:49] <infid> this thing i broked
[01:49] <WanHouse> bobo123_: B00rked ;)
[01:50] <devdude> anyone have any experience using FDI files for HAL? I have a touchpad detected as a mouse, and it's overwriting the xorg.conf if it has touchpad info?
[01:50] <Fr4g0u7> I'm running ubuntu 8.04LTS Server and my network does not start on boot but when I do sudo ifup eth0 it starts.  And yes my /etc/network/interfaces is configured correctley.
[01:51] <Fr4g0u7> Anyone know how I can fix it?
[01:52] <thedude42> Fr4g0u7, pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[01:52] <Madcamper> hey, i got my counter-strike source to work in wine, but the resolution is stuck very high, i want it to be either 800x600 or 1440x900, how do i do it?
[01:53] <Jester2> ./
[01:53] <thedude42> Madcamper, do you have wine configured to run in a virtual wine window?
[01:53] <Madcamper> Emulate a virtual desktop?
[01:53] <Madcamper> if so then no
[01:54] <thedude42> try that
[01:54] <Madcamper> kk
[01:54] <Fr4g0u7> metric 20
[01:54] <teknozwizard> if I open up the Update Manager and the Update Manager tells me that my system is up to date, do I need to bother with the synaptic package manager at all?
[01:54] <Fr4g0u7> gay
[01:54] <LjL> Fr4g0u7: yes?
[01:55]  * Hdmandude slaps a large trout around a bit with LjL
[01:55] <Fr4g0u7> iface eth3 inet static
[01:55] <LjL> uh, ok
[01:55] <thedude42> no auto line?
[01:55]  * Hdmandude slaps a large trout around a bit with aegis
[01:55] <Fr4g0u7> no
[01:55] <LjL> Hdmandude: i don't suggest you keep doing that
[01:55]  * Hdmandude slaps a large trout around a bit with ahma
[01:55] <Fr4g0u7> address 192.168.17
[01:55]  * Hdmandude slaps a large trout around a bit with ahma
[01:55] <LjL> Hdmandude: actually, i do suggest you stop that
[01:55] <thedude42> Fr4g0u7, you need auto eth3 for it to come up on boot
[01:55]  * Hdmandude slaps a large trout around a bit with Ljl
[01:55] <Hdmandude> lol
[01:55] <Xcell> slaps ^
[01:55] <LjL> !ops | Hdmandude
[01:56] <Fr4g0u7> so I can't have a static ip come up on boot?
[01:56] <Madcamper> thedude42: its still stuck at the 2468x900 or w/e, when i go into options
[01:56] <Madcamper> inside CSS
[01:56] <thedude42> that's not what I said
[01:56] <arleslie> Jordan_U, well I  tried that and it didn't work, so I just reinstalled it, and now I need to get root able to login
[01:56] <Madcamper> i am dual monitoring btw, could this cause a problem?
[01:56] <thedude42> Fr4g0u7, before you define your eth3 settings you need the line 'auto eth3' to tell the system you want the interface configured at boot time
[01:57] <Jordan_U> Fr4g0u7: Yes you can, System > Preferences > Network. Setup a static ip then set that profile as "available to all users" and "automatically connect"
[01:57] <thedude42> Jordan_U, he's running server
[01:57] <Jordan_U> thedude42: Ahh
[01:57] <arleslie> How do I get root able to login?
[01:57] <William-Gentoo> when can we get ubuntu 9.10?
[01:57] <Fr4g0u7> Jordan_U I'm running server version
[01:57] <Jordan_U> !root | arleslie
[01:57] <devdude> arleslie: first off, does root have a password set?
[01:57] <Fr4g0u7> ok I'll try the auto line in there.
[01:58] <mechdave> William-Gentoo, You can get it now if you want
[01:58] <joebodo> !loala
[01:58] <majnoon> i have an intersting question:: has anyone tried using the ir port on a palm pilot as a lirc device ??
[01:58] <arleslie> devdude, I don't think it does but if it does I know it
[01:58] <joebodo> !koala
[01:58] <Bento2> oi
[01:58] <thedude42> Madcamper, what video card do you have?
[01:58] <William-Gentoo> i mean not bate
[01:59] <Madcamper> nvidia 7150m / nforce 630m
[01:59] <thedude42> Madcamper, did you download and install the nvidia drivers, or are you using ubuntu restricted drivers?
[01:59] <joebodo> !koala | William-Gentoo
[01:59] <Madcamper> using the nvidia 180 ones from ubuntu synaptic install
[01:59] <Bento2> anybody speaks portuguese?
[02:00] <Madcamper> is there another i dont know about?
[02:00] <William-Gentoo> thanks ubottu
[02:00] <devdude> Madcamper: if you have SERIOUS issues with the drivers (like will not work no matter what, which happens every single ubuntu install on this laptop's 8200M, I can explain to you how to do it manually)
[02:00] <thedude42> Madcamper, if you can't change the resolution inside the game, then try uninstalling the ubuntu drivers, and downloading the nvidia ones and install them
[02:00] <robbmunson> !thanks
[02:00] <devdude> oh
[02:00] <devdude> it works
[02:00] <Jordan_U> !pt | Bento2
[02:00] <robbmunson> ;)
[02:00] <devdude> but you can't change the resolution
[02:00] <Madcamper> ok devdude
[02:00] <Madcamper> thedude42 where cna i get the linux nvidia drivers?
[02:01] <William-Gentoo> what does `basename $0` mean in bash shell?
[02:01] <devdude> Madcamper: all half-life 1 & 2 engine games have a command line parameter for resolution
[02:01] <thedude42> www.nividia.com
[02:01] <Bento2> Ok
[02:01] <Madcamper> i used the comand line
[02:01] <Madcamper> env WINEPREFIX="/home/madcamper/.wine" wine "C:\Program Files\Steam\steam.exe" -fullscreen -width 800 -height 600 -heapsize 512000 +map_background none "$@" -dxlevel 80 -applaunch 240
[02:01] <devdude> Madcamper: in other words (for example), hl2 -game css -width -height
[02:01] <devdude> yeah
[02:01] <devdude> and it doesnt work?
[02:01] <Madcamper> doenst change res no
[02:01] <zamba> does anyone know of a suite for automatically starting (WoL) and shutting down (ssh - poweroff) computers in a LAN?
[02:01] <devdude> k
[02:01] <zamba> i'm thinking a web gui
[02:01] <devdude> Madcamper: A) check out wine's config, or B) I'd look up cedega or crossover, those are very good for that
[02:01] <Madcamper> the res in CS Is like 2468x900 lmfao
[02:01] <devdude> lol
[02:02] <Madcamper> but i have to pay for those though
[02:02] <Madcamper> dont i?
[02:02] <devdude> yeah I know :(
[02:02] <devdude> crossover is free
[02:02] <devdude> cedega isn't
[02:02] <Madcamper> crossover is?
[02:02] <devdude> yeah
[02:02] <FloodBot1> devdude: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:02] <devdude> but I don't remember where to get it.
[02:02] <Madcamper> google ftw
[02:02] <eurythmia> if I wanted to go about installing ubuntu from the ubuntu-desktop CD, but using ubuntu-minimal instead of ubuntu-desktop as my base system, how would I go about doing that?
[02:03] <thedude42> eurythmia, alternate install CD
[02:03] <Madcamper> how do i uninstall the ubuntu nvidia drivers?
[02:03] <Jordan_U> eurythmia: Install full Ubuntu, then remove everything but ubuntu-minimal
[02:03] <devdude> eurythmia: hehe, well this is a bug, but if you use unetbootin, and flash alternate on it (
[02:03] <devdude> eurythmia: alternate install cd anyhow will do the trick
[02:03] <mechdave> zamba, have a read of this --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234588
[02:04] <devdude> thedude42 says so, and it forced me to use minimal on my usb install.. so it must hav eit
[02:04] <eurythmia> thedude42: didn't have any luck with that last time I tried. After I have the alternate-cd in, what do I do to get it to install ubuntu-minimal?
[02:04] <thedude42> Madcamper, if you go to the nvidia site they tell you how on the download page, but basically you need to kill X and log in to one of the tty terminals
[02:04] <Madcamper> ok
[02:04] <thedude42> run the script from there
[02:04] <devdude> thedude42: actually there's a trick around that
[02:04] <devdude> you just run it like nvidia-185.14-blahblah.run --no-x-check
[02:04] <Madcamper> crossover chromium is what im looking for?
[02:04] <devdude> well sudo
[02:04] <devdude> Madcamper: I think so.
[02:04] <Madcamper> ok
[02:04] <dermot> Hi. can anyone tell me how to activate my Verizon usb modem in ubuntu
[02:04] <devdude> lemme check it out myself
[02:04] <FloodBot1> devdude: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:04] <Fr4g0u7> thedude42 Thanks alot man been trying to figure this out for a while now!
[02:04] <devdude> no
[02:05] <zamba> mechdave: it's no problem using WoL, it works just perfectly.. what i'm looking for is a suite/system that automates this.. so that non-tech savvy users can schedule up and down for different computers
[02:05] <devdude> web browser hehe
[02:05] <MenZa> dermot: Plug it in - then type 'lsusb' in a terminal. What output do you get - in a terminal?
[02:05] <zamba> mechdave: and a web gui :)
[02:05] <thedude42> eurythmia, did you not get to the package selection screen in the installer?
[02:05] <MenZa> dermot: Err, that second terminal was supposed to be 'a pastebin'
[02:05] <thedude42> Fr4g0u7, no prob
[02:05] <chinos> hola
[02:05] <dermot> ok i will try that
[02:06] <devdude> Madcamper: damn, not free anymore
[02:06] <MenZa> dermot: That should give me a bit more information to work with
[02:06] <mechdave> zamba, that I have never seen, but you can do it all through cron and a master server I spoze
[02:06] <Madcamper> crossover isnt?
[02:06] <devdude> doesn't look like it
[02:06] <Madcamper> cause im dling cxchromium_0.9.0-1_i386.deb lol
[02:06] <eurythmia> thedude42: I think I did, but apparently I made an incorrect assumption about it :/
[02:06] <dermot> is there anyway to activate it graphically though?
[02:06] <devdude> lol
[02:06] <devdude> oh ok
[02:06] <thedude42> afaik crossover was never free
[02:06] <Madcamper> http://www.codeweavers.com/services/ports/chromium/
[02:07] <zamba> mechdave: i'm thinking about starting a project about it myself
[02:07] <MenZa> dermot: Possibly - the lsusb command is going to give me the exact make/model/version of the modem, and I'll have a look around on how to do it
[02:07] <dermot> i can only go online if i have my computer running in windows with the modem first
[02:07] <chinos> where i am?
[02:07] <bobo123_> how to specify local file in rlogin?
[02:07] <zamba> mechdave: has to be some web gui stuff
[02:07] <thedude42> eurythmia, from what I recall you can choose the option 'manual package selection' and that will get you the choice you want
[02:07] <dermot> ok
[02:07] <MenZa> dermot: Oh, well type out the line which deals with the USB modem. It *should* be pretty easy to make out.
[02:07] <devdude> its crossover games
[02:07] <Madcamper> nvidia-185.14-blahblah.run --no-x-check will you said right?
[02:07] <zamba> mechdave: and support for schedules
[02:07] <devdude> not the browser
[02:07] <dermot> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 1410:6000 Novatel Wireless
[02:07] <dermot> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[02:07] <dermot> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:c50e Logitech, Inc. MX-1000 Cordless Mouse Receiver
[02:07] <dermot> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[02:07] <dermot> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[02:07] <FloodBot1> dermot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:07] <dermot> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0781:5406 SanDisk Corp. Cruzer Micro 1/4GB Flash Drive
[02:07] <mechdave> zamba, you could write it using php and maybe some perl to run the system stuff
[02:07] <devdude> Madcamper: yeah but you typically need to uninstall the original driver
[02:08] <phyizal> Ubuntu 9 stopped auto-mounting external usb hard disk, even if you specify it in fstab.
[02:08] <Madcamper> devdude: "its cross over games, not the browser" was that directed to me?
[02:08] <devdude> Madcamper: and if you have a working driver, I assume this is a wine issue
[02:08] <phyizal> any idea?
[02:08] <devdude> It was directed at you, yes
[02:08] <Madcamper> ok
[02:08] <mechdave> zamba, although it could be a pretty big security hole!! :)
[02:08] <Madcamper> so i dled wrong thing? ><
[02:08] <MenZa> dermot: Try ... putting that in a !pastebin instead
[02:08] <devdude> :)
[02:08] <devdude> yup
[02:08] <Madcamper> bah
[02:08] <devdude> it says full compatability with games too
[02:08] <devdude> all staem
[02:08] <devdude> steam
[02:09] <mechdave> !pastebin > dermot
[02:09] <dermot> the top one was for the modem
[02:09] <Madcamper> wait huh?
[02:09] <bobo123_> ubottu: how to specify local file in rsh?
[02:09] <devdude> Madcamper: nevermind
[02:09] <dermot> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 1410:6000 Novatel Wireless (sory for posting all of it
[02:09] <MenZa> I'll have a look around, dermot
[02:09] <Madcamper> k
[02:09] <zamba> mechdave: sure.. so i'll need good authentication mechanisms and make sure that only shutdown is being sent :)
[02:10] <mechdave> zamba, correct, I would use https at the least and maybe even ssh via a web browser
[02:10] <MenZa> http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/blog/archive/2009/02/05/using-a-verizon-wireless-modem-with-ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex.aspx <- dermot, try looking at that.
[02:10] <dermot> thatnks
[02:10] <zamba> mechdave: but for my purposes, it'll be on a server behind NAT, so not that big a concern
[02:10] <Madcamper> "nvidia-185.14-blahblah.run --no-x-check" what do i type in front of it to run it?
[02:10] <bobo123_> MenZa: how to specify local file in rsh?
[02:10] <mechdave> zamba, have you written much php stuff before?
[02:10] <MenZa> bobo123_: I dunno, why don't you ask the channel?
[02:10] <devdude> I have 2 encrypted volumes (in this case /, and /home), I'd like to make it such that I enter the PW for /, and the keyfile for /home is located on /something and its auto decrypted before I log in.. is there any way to do this easily?
[02:11] <zamba> mechdave: quite a bit.. but i loathe it :p
[02:11] <karol_> guys if i upgrade to 9.10 now and its alfa will i get the full final version on 28.10.09 automatically?
[02:11] <zamba> mechdave: no challenge, just typing the same stuff over and over again :p
[02:11] <devdude> Madcamper: this assumes you grabbed it from the nvidia site, and you want to sudo it as well
[02:11] <bobo123_> MenZa:  nobody responds
[02:11] <Madcamper> ya
[02:11] <MenZa> bobo123_: Then wait.
[02:11] <Madcamper> ok
[02:11] <devdude> Madcamper: but if you say you have a working driver, don't mess with it
[02:11] <karol_> guys if i upgrade to 9.10 now and its alfa will i get the full final version on 28.10.09 automatically?
[02:11] <Madcamper> ok, cause i could get into a server, just the resolution is screwed up
[02:12] <sebsebseb> karol_: #ubuntu+1  is currently the 9.10 channel
[02:12] <Madcamper> within CSS, and it doesnt give me other choices in teh CSS options
[02:12] <Flannel> karol_: You will.  It's beta now, not alpha.  And you should ask about it in #ubuntu+1, not here, thanks
[02:12] <Brando753> will my raid controller card work in ubuntu?
[02:12] <dermot> it helps a bit but i dont get the option to connect to verizon unless i use the card with windows first
[02:12] <Madcamper> any kind of libraries i need in the wine config ?
[02:12] <Brando753> or does ubuntu not support raid?
[02:12] <thedude42> Brando753, probably
[02:13] <thedude42> Brando753, typically ubuntu supports most hardware out of the box
[02:13] <Madcamper> devdude: i mine as well try the nvidia driver just to test?
[02:13] <devdude> Madcamper: doubtful that it's the issue
[02:14] <devdude> you may just screw up your install instead
[02:14] <arleslie> Can someone help me with grub, I'm having issues with it trying to load BackTrack on (hd0,2)
[02:14] <devdude> and come back here asking how to get it working properly again
[02:14] <Madcamper> if i cant do that, then what else could i do in the wine config? doesnt look like theres many choices in the wine config
[02:14] <thedude42> the nvidia drivers are usually pretty safe, and easy to remove as well
[02:14] <devdude> I had to uninstall all traces of my previous nvidia
[02:14] <devdude> then manually do it
[02:14] <devdude> after grabbing like
[02:15] <poseidon> Just saw this. --> http://www.hulu.com/labs/hulu-desktop-linux
[02:15] <devdude> build-essential, linux-headers-myver, etc
[02:15] <devdude> its annoying
[02:15] <Madcamper> well its good experience, it may work for me?
[02:15] <devdude> it may
[02:15] <devdude> I doubt it
[02:15] <devdude> but it may :0
[02:15] <Madcamper> dont know till we try
[02:15] <devdude> read a guide on building it
[02:15] <devdude> you need um
[02:16] <devdude> linux-headers-{uname -r}
[02:16] <devdude> I think
[02:16] <devdude> and build-essential
[02:16] <Madcamper> to run the downloaded nvidia driver?
[02:16] <devdude> yeah
[02:16] <Madcamper> kk
[02:16] <devdude> then you need to remove the current driver
[02:16] <thedude42> Madcamper, the reason I was suspecting your drivers was because the driver is the hook that user space processors have access to do things like alter your screen resolution, and since steam should be able to do it, but it's not, indicates to me that the driver isn't presenting the X layer appropriately to the application
[02:17] <Madcamper> makes sense
[02:17] <GSF1200S> can someone explain to me what an incremental backup does that rsync doesnt?
[02:17] <devdude> GSF1200S: well I don't know what either are.. but you don't want something that synchronizes and if a file is gone in what it's synchronizes with, it gets rid of the file from the backup folder
[02:17] <zamba> GSF1200S: rsync just merges, whereas incremental backup generally creates and stores the differences
[02:18] <zamba> GSF1200S: for rollback purposes
[02:18] <devdude> and if rsync does that.. you lose whatever you did
[02:18] <devdude> like lets say I have blah.txt, I acidentally save it empty.. then I synchronize, my backup will be empty
[02:18] <thedude42> GSF1200S, typically when people talk about incremental backup, they are talking about file diff, whereas rsync is looking at the disk blocks
[02:18] <devdude> I dunno if rsync does that
[02:19] <GSF1200S> rsync only deletes the source file if the --delete option is in the command
[02:20] <devdude> does ANYONE here have a good idea about cryptsetup before I go? I've been asking for like 2 hours with no responses
[02:20] <Madcamper> for the linux-headers do i want the "linux-headers-lbm-2.6.28-14-generic" ?
[02:20] <devdude> yes
[02:20] <devdude> err no
[02:20] <devdude> not ibm
[02:20] <devdude> and make sure you're -14
[02:20] <FloodBot1> devdude: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:20] <GSF1200S> zamba: Im trying to understand this. What do you mean by just merges? The backup folder I have has everything verbatim that my /home does? If I lose /home drive, and I put in a new one and rsync the backup, wouldnt that work fine?
[02:20] <Madcamper> oh linux-headers-2.6.28-5-386?
[02:20] <pjustice13> Ubuntu is not recognizing my wireless card. Can someone help please?
[02:20] <devdude> madcamper: uname -r
[02:21] <devdude> madcamper: linux-headers-[whatever uname -r says]
[02:21] <Madcamper> k
[02:21] <KnifeySpooney> What does the 5 mean when the source says something like 'See fstab(5).'? Does this have to do with a man page?
[02:21] <canthus13> KnifeySpooney: Yes.
[02:21] <fax> man 5 fstab
[02:21] <devdude> KnifeySpooney: page 5 I think
[02:21] <fax> they are in different sections
[02:21] <devdude> which is done by what fax just said
[02:21] <thedude42> KnifeySpooney, it means the number of arguments
[02:21] <canthus13> devdude: If only man were so simple.
[02:21] <devdude> heheh :)
[02:21] <fax> e.g. there is printf command as well as printf function
[02:21] <dermot> i have the smae problem pjustice13
[02:21] <fax> so you have to use man 3 printf to read the one about the function
[02:22] <KnifeySpooney> thedude42: number of arguments?
[02:22] <fax> it's just a way to categorize
[02:22] <pjustice13> dermot, what have you tried
[02:22] <fax> I think  man man  will tell you about his
[02:22] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all, does any of you know where I can get some fixes for the Cairo-dock/Intel video issues? (Or just the #room for Cairo?)
[02:22] <devdude> lol
[02:22] <nibbler> KnifeySpooney: its not page 5, its section 5.
[02:22] <pjustice13> Ubuntu is not recognizing my wireless card. Can someone help please?
[02:22] <Madcamper> oh ok so i already have the linux-headers installed it says
[02:22] <canthus13> fax: Only it makes very little sense except to the hippies who wrote it.
[02:22] <KnifeySpooney> Oh
[02:22] <devdude> pjustice13: first I'd do an update
[02:22] <GSF1200S> thedude42: but both backup the file dont they? If I lose the primary, all my info will still be verbatim stored on the backup, wont it?
[02:22] <KnifeySpooney> nibbler: Ok, thanks
[02:22] <devdude> pjustice13: just to get the latest
[02:22] <thedude42> KnifeySpooney, sorry, i was thinking about something else
[02:22] <devdude> assuming you have lan internet?
[02:22] <dermot> i have not tried much i am new to ubinbtu
[02:23] <thedude42> GSF1200S, no, rsync does some trickery with hard linking to the original file disk blocks
[02:23] <KnifeySpooney> ah. Just had to make sure there was a difference between soemthing like fstab(4) and fstab(5). Thanks
[02:23] <pjustice13> devdude, I've already updated. Are you talking about a specific update?
[02:23] <devdude> pjustice13: nope, just to get the latest.. now what I'd try is go to hardware drivers
[02:23] <devdude> I think its preferences->hardware drivers
[02:23] <devdude> might be administration, I forgot
[02:23] <pjustice13> Dermot, so am I
[02:24] <GSF1200S> thedude42: Oh holy crap. So if I lose the primary, nothing on the backup drive will work..
[02:24] <devdude> I'm using linux mint right now, the GUI is odd
[02:24] <mgv2> im getting error message 409: while trying to register jabber with pidgin - what is that?.
[02:24] <pjustice13> Ok what am I looking for in the hardware drivers?
[02:24] <devdude> GSF1200S: if I understand how it works right, htat sounds correct
[02:24] <kevin0091> i promiced never to buy another ATI card again, but I was just given 2 cards (an hd2600 and a x1600xt) by a friend. Which one will give better performance in ubuntu?
[02:24] <thedude42> GSF1200S, that is my understanding, but with incrimentals the same thing applies but in a different way
[02:24] <devdude> pjustice13: it should say your card.. but um
[02:24] <dermot> I can get my usb modem to work with ubuntu no problem its just that i need to use windows to activate it first.
[02:24] <devdude> pjustice13: I haven't had many driver issues actually..ever.
[02:25] <kevin0091> i think either of them will smoke the geforce 6200 that is currently in this machine
[02:25] <GSF1200S> so whats my best option to have a hard backup on my backup drive?
[02:25] <pjustice13> devdude, ok let me look
[02:25] <thedude42> GSF1200S, in incrimentals, you need the originals as a reference, unless you have them 100% backed up elsewhere
[02:25] <GSF1200S> thedude42: oh ok, makes sense
[02:25] <dermot> is there a way to tell ubuntu to detect my usb modem the way windows does
[02:26] <thedude42> dermot, that's kind of a loaded question....
[02:26] <devdude> so nobody knows naything about cryptsetup?
[02:26] <devdude> ugh
[02:26] <Fabrizio> is xubuntu way faster than ubuntu?
[02:26] <devdude> there's a lot of info, but not enough
[02:26] <Madcamper> -l
[02:26] <thedude42> devdude, what's your question?
[02:26] <Madcamper> is that an L?
[02:26] <devdude> Fabrizio: by definition, I think gnome uses the least CPU and memory
[02:26] <Madcamper> oh nvm
[02:26] <Madcamper> im retarded
[02:27] <pjustice13> devdude, I have an alternate atheros madwifi driver and it is activated
[02:27] <devdude> pjustice13: its defective on my ver of ubuntu, after I de-activated it, it wa fine again
[02:27] <Fabrizio> devdude: ok, thingsget bogged down on my 400mgz with ubuntu, what would work better?
[02:27] <thedude42> devdude, i'm somewhat familiar with cryptsetup, i'm using it on a couple of systems
[02:27] <dermot> Ubuntu wont detect my usb modem unless i use the modem on windows first is there any way to tell ubuntu the detect the modem without useing windows
[02:27] <devdude> Fabrizio: gnome is the least footprint
[02:27] <pjustice13> devdude, ok I'll try that, did you have to do a restart for it to start working
[02:27] <devdude> Fabrizio: I read a comparison
[02:28] <Fabrizio> devdude: ok good at least i know i have the fastest lightest one...but runs real slow sometimes
[02:28] <thedude42> dermot, if i understand the issue you're talking about, there's a windows application you need to run in order to get your modem working, correct?
[02:28] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: Is Xubuntu/XFCE way faster than  Ubuntu/Gnome?  Probably not, but it is recommended for older hardware
[02:28] <devdude> thedude42: I have it setup right now to ask for the pw for / on bootup before the login screen, and /home is taken from my user's login password. (using PAM, crypttab, and a whole lot of other stuff I don't recall).. I want to switch it so after / is mounted, it can automount /home from some keyfile on /
[02:29] <dermot> actually just sitting at the login for a few secs will useally do the trick
[02:29] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: why is that
[02:29] <devdude> thedude42: or.. use the same pw on both volumes.. and not bother me
[02:29] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: ,because it uses less resources
[02:29] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: make sure you got  SWAP if you don't have much RAM
[02:29] <pjustice13> devdude, do you have to do a restart before it will work?
[02:29] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: git 768ram
[02:29] <devdude> Fabrizio: sorry, I'm wrong then.. my memory failed me :P
[02:29] <devdude> pjustice13: yes.
[02:30] <pjustice13> devdude, ok thanks!
[02:30] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: what runs best fofr 400mgz and 768ram
[02:30] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: I guess about  1GB or  1.5GB SWAP then, if you did guided install it probably set one up for you  that is about that size
[02:30] <dermot> i dont need to use the internet with windows for it to work i just need to run windows with the card plugged in
[02:30] <thedude42> devdude, you did the /home with the thing where it asks 'do you want to encrypt your home directory?' on install?
[02:30] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: loads out there, Fluxbox, ICEvm etc etc
[02:31] <sebsebseb> lxde
[02:31] <sebsebseb> and so on
[02:31] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: so i should try a smaller one then
[02:31] <devdude> thedude42: I did not use the alternate install disk, I'm running linux mint and I can show you the link to the guide I used.. but basicly, I used cryptsetup, and setup some stuff using PAM, crypttab, and one other file I don't recall
[02:31] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: puppylinux?
[02:31] <devdude> mint is 9.04 with a start menu, but that's it
[02:31] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: Find out if you have SWAP and tell me how big it is,  and  yes you could try  other distros such as puppylinux or damn small linux if you really want to
[02:31] <dermot> i assume all i need to do is to tell ubuntu to look for new hardware and use it for my verizon card to work i just dont know how to do it.
[02:31] <bigdavejoker> I need some pointers troubleshooting a up & down network connection   It randomly drops and will not come back until I shut the interface down and back up or refesh the IP
[02:32] <devdude> bigdavejoker: not wireless right?
[02:32] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: want speed on old hardware no idea about swap and not at home now
[02:32] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: oh
[02:32] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: ok
[02:32] <thedude42> devdude, you should be able to add a new key to your /home cryptvol the same way you add a key to your / cryptvol
[02:32] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: if its part of ubuntu 904 then i got it
[02:32] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: How old is the computer?
[02:32] <bigdavejoker> devdude it is a wireless connection I do not get an indication of lost wireless signal when it happens   I just can't browse or chat
[02:32] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: 1998
[02:32] <Wally> Does this URL crash your Ubuntu from firefox (I am running version 9.0.4 and I have to power off to recover)? http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos7d/downloads/005.jpg
[02:33] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: ok I suggest trying Xubuntu and  I suppouse Lubuntu, and also the other two distros that were just mentioned
[02:33] <devdude> bigdavejoker: that is a common problem with wireless, regardless of operating system.. it could be as dumb as someone walked by the wireless router, or by your computer which screwed up the signal
[02:33] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: so your 1st try is xubuntu
[02:33] <bigdavejoker> devdude even thought I'm not getting a lost signal indication?
[02:34] <devdude> yep
[02:34] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: If you have the correct distro,  Linux breaths a lot of life into old hardware.
[02:34] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: now i can switch to that right in terminal cammand right
[02:34] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: XFCE is a graphical user interface
[02:34] <dermot> Ubuntu will not detect my verizon card unless i run windows with the card plugged in first. Can any one tell me how to get the card to work without using windows
[02:34] <bigdavejoker> devdue hmmm okay well thats better than no answer at all  but I am only like 10 feet from the router   Maybe I'll run some cat5 and see if the problem ever occurs then
[02:34] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: so when i go home i can switch in terminal command right?
[02:34] <devdude> bigdavejoker: a simple solution is use wifi closer to the router at hand.. or perhaps you could get an external wireless card with dramatically better range (I suggest the Alfa 500mW, the G not the N version)
[02:34] <Pilif12p> Hi, whats the apt-get for MySQL ?
[02:35] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: Gnome, KDE, XFCE, and what not, can all be installed in the same Ubuntu install, and then you switch to another session using the log in screen, and pick which one you want to run, when it's installed
[02:35] <devdude> bigdavejoker: its really a general wireless issue that nobody can do anything about
[02:35] <devdude> bigdavejoker: besides say.. move the router higher up
[02:35] <devdude> sometimes does solve the issue
[02:35] <thedude42> dermot, google 'verizon usb modem linux'
[02:35] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: so that means it can be done from terminal command right?
[02:35] <bigdavejoker> It' sitting on top of a desk now less than 10 feet from me
[02:35] <devdude> bigdavejoker: same room?
[02:35] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: You can install XFCE using the terminal yes sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:35] <dermot> i tried and cant find anything helpful
[02:35] <dermot> i will try again
[02:35] <bigdavejoker> devdue yes same room
[02:36] <devdude> bigdavejoker: did you try power cycling the router.. or maybe a firmware update?
[02:36] <GSF1200S> thedude42, devdude: Well, I just killed X logged in as root, unmounted the primary drive completely, and all data was still accessible on the backup drive
[02:36] <joebodo> bigdavejoker do you have the connection set to "auto"
[02:36] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb:is that as effective as a clean install of xubuntu?
[02:36] <thedude42> dermot, top return: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=634706
[02:36] <devdude> bigdavejoker: could solve the issue
[02:36] <devdude> but its a completely different issue if you say you are in the same room
[02:36] <pjustice13> Hello, I am unbale to log into my wireless because ubuntu keeps replacing the password with random numbers and letters
[02:36] <thedude42> GSF1200S, that is because you had aq full copy on the backup drive
[02:37] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: well not exactly, but Ubuntu is your base, the kernel, and all that,  and  then  you do a  desktop envrionment such as Gnome or KDE or windows manager such as XFCE or  LXDE on top of that
[02:37] <vivid> anyone getting blank tty screens under karmic?
[02:37] <devdude> pjustice13: preferences -> mouse, touchpad, enable mouse clicks with touchpad (this usually solves the problem, IF that is what it is)
[02:37] <thedude42> GSF1200S, you misunderstood.... rsync's 'snapshots' rely on the original copy, and if those disk bloks from the original copy are gone, so are the 'snapshots'
[02:37] <Madcamper> devdude: what was that build-essential command you told me?
[02:37] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: hmmm "not exactly he says"?  i have both discs should i clean wipe or do the sudo thing...need speed
[02:37] <devdude> Madcamper: apt-get build-essential
[02:38] <devdude> ?
[02:38] <devdude> well sudo apt-get
[02:38] <GSF1200S> thedude42: right. Is there any issue with that? All im trying to do is have a total backup..
[02:38] <pjustice13> devdude, ok I'll try that
[02:38] <Madcamper> no, to install the driver
[02:38] <Madcamper> without x
[02:38] <sebsebseb> vivid: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic
[02:38] <devdude> blah.run --no-x-check
[02:38] <thedude42> GSF1200S, your original rsync is the 'total backup'
[02:38] <Madcamper> ok
[02:38] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: Does your current install work resonably?
[02:38] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: I'ts Ubuntu/Gnome yes?
[02:38] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: yes usually
[02:38] <Madcamper> brb
[02:38] <GSF1200S> thedude42, ahhh, ok. I wasnt aware thats what you were talking about. So using a full backup, I shouldnt have any issues
[02:39] <stewart> howdy!  recent computer science grad in usa new to irc.  hoping to find a channel where i can get information about comp sci jobs overseas
[02:39] <GHOST_SANGHEILI> the game
[02:39] <bigdavejoker> devdude  sorry dropped connection trying to check for auto
[02:39] <thedude42> GSF1200S, yeah sorry... when you started talking about incrimental vs rsync, I was thinking you meant somehting like dirvish vs veritas
[02:39] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb:the more i update it the slower it gets
[02:39] <devdude> thedude42: my issue isn't changing the key, that's easy.. but how do I make it automount with the key?
[02:39] <devdude> I don't remember exactly how
[02:39] <bigdavejoker> devdue is there a good command line option to check for wireless signal when things stop working since I'm not getting an indication of dropped signal?
[02:39] <joebodo> stewart over which sea ?
[02:39] <stewart> lol.  ANY sea!
[02:39] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb" was faster with 8.04 then did 400 update then 9.04, now seems slow
[02:39] <devdude> bigdavejoker: reboot the router
[02:39] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: ok  run the command for installing xubuntu and give it a try, by selecting it from the log in screen,  if you want to clean install Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu  soon,  then  it may as well be 9.10  with default Ext4 by default, not for Ext3 upgrades.  That's  released on October 29th, with fast boot up, shut down, and disk checking after 23 or so boots.
[02:40] <GSF1200S> thedude42, nah its my bad.. i got confused. I asked some questions in another channel and some dude kept telling me rsync was not good enough and that I needed to look into incremental backups
[02:40] <thedude42> devdude, when you set up root, you know how you had to update the ramfs stuff to include the lvm2 and cryptsetup stuff?
[02:40] <pjustice13> devdude, that didn't work, the wireless still won't log on to my network
[02:40] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: so imay as well wait for the ubuntu upgrade then
[02:40] <devdude> pjustice13: no no I just meant so it doesn't add random characters..
[02:41] <stewart> joebodo any good tips or pointers?
[02:41] <devdude> pjustice13: like you want to put in your password but it adds stuff you didn't type right
[02:41] <GSF1200S> thedude42, hence why I came here and was asking. It didnt make sense to me since I thought I was making a full backup
[02:41] <mgv2> when i move my mouse over the right click menu of the desktop in hebrew system the paste option blinks fastly
[02:41] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: Yep in my opinion it makes a lot of sense for many people to  do a clean install when 9.10 comes out, because of the default Ext4.
[02:41] <thedude42> GSF1200S, i mean, rsync is as good as copying the files from one place to another..... not sure to what he was referring with regard to 'good enough'
[02:41] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: isaw that my ubuntu insatll put itself in mt ext3...now you mention ext4?
[02:42] <Madcamper> devdude: i did NVIDIA-Linux-x86blahversion.pkg1.run --no-x-check but it said command not found?
[02:42] <pjustice13> devdude, no I put in the correct password and it won't log on, so I checked to make sure I typed the password correctly and it showed up as random numbers and letters
[02:42] <devdude> thedude42: vagueely.. going to look up the same guide maybe it'll lead to the same info
[02:42] <Pilif12p> Help please?
[02:42] <joebodo> stewart sorry not really - i usually just get jobs from word of mouth ...
[02:42] <thedude42> Madcamper, try ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86blahversion.pkg1.run --no-x-check
[02:42] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb:is ext4 a better home for it (mine is in ext3)
[02:42] <Madcamper> kk
[02:42] <teknozwizard> The primary Freenode rooms are on this server, right?
[02:42] <GSF1200S> thedude42, yeah man, thats what ran through my head, and I got all confused thinking I was missing something. He got pissed and told me he didnt have time to teach me linux basics. Wtf? So I thought Id ask...
[02:42] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: Yep  Ext4 is quite a lot better, and will replace Ext3 as the default starting with 9.10.   There is a Ext3 to Ext4 conversion, but it probably won't exactly be good enough, and so for full support clean installs.
[02:42] <Madcamper> brb again
[02:42] <stewart> ah.  new to industry at the moment.  not enough contacts, but i'm working on it!
[02:42] <thedude42> devdude, link it too me and maybe i can look at it
[02:43] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: Ext4 will also speed up your old hardware :)
[02:43] <devdude> thedude42: k
[02:43] <GSF1200S> thanks for clearing that up..
[02:43] <devdude> thedude42: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=18743
[02:43] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: great i cant wait, will i go in that ext4 for me or will i need to study how to get it there
[02:43] <devdude> thedude42: I did more or less the same as the guide, but ext4.. heh
[02:44] <thedude42> now someone tell me how to make nagiosgrapher from the ubuntu repositories work with nagios3 from the ubuntu repositories
[02:44] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: either you do a clean install when it's time, and it puts everything into an Ext4  /   or  when your installing you can for example set up a seperate /home as well, which is rather useful,  if you ever have a reason to re install Ubuntu again, or  you want to try out other distros
[02:44] <sebsebseb> !home |  Fabrizio
[02:44] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: no with 10 gig hard rive will be a stand alone clean install
[02:44] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: seperate /home will  be set up on the manual install
[02:44] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: Your hard disk is only 10GB???
[02:45] <Penol> im trying to add a mailaccount with postfix admin and got this error: Oct 11 03:40:44 server1 postfix/smtpd[5387]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from localhost[<IP_ADDRESS>]: 550 5.1.1<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>proto=ESMTP helo=<<IP_ADDRESS>>
[02:45] <devdude> thedude42: ahh I get it, I jsut need to edit crypttab, and change it to the keyfile
[02:45] <devdude> alright
[02:45] <malcolm> Hey
[02:45] <pjustice13> devdude, do you know of a solution to this
[02:45] <Wally> Every time I got this URL in forefox, Ubuntu 9.0.4 crashes, the mouse moves but nothing else responds (keyboard is dead).  http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos7d/downloads/005.jpg anyone else have the same problem?
[02:45] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: yes 10 gig, so do i order a new disc
[02:45] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: The whole of your hard disks is 10GB??  Only 10GB?
[02:46] <Fabrizio> 10 yes
[02:46] <thedude42> devdude, right, but is /home in cryptab too?  does /home just have a different line telling it to look at a PAM module?
[02:46] <Fabrizio> 10 yes
[02:46] <joebodo> Wally don't load that jpg then
[02:46] <Malcolm_09> im trying to create a usb startup disk but i says "Unable to determine the partition number ,"any help?
[02:46] <Fabrizio> 10 10 10  yahoo
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: ah yes old computer
[02:46] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: why does this change yur mind
[02:46] <Wally> joebodo: wondering if it is a bug of some sort
[02:46] <Othman> malcome : mount in terminal
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: now I remember  got this old lap top here where the hard disk is only 6GB
[02:46] <Malcolm_09> hmm
[02:47] <evanescent> are there any digital pens which don't require special paper or a tablet and are known to work well on ubuntu
[02:47] <Malcolm_09> Im new to ubuntu
[02:47] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: sp..get new disc, do clean wipe, and it all ends up in ext4...so will that wipe out the ext3?
[02:47] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: 10GB  is  a lot for Ubuntu,  well unless you start putting loads of data into Home or something
[02:47] <Othman> malcolm  : u can download gparted
[02:47] <Malcolm_09> then do what
[02:47] <nic1> it ttells, The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: linux-headers-2.6.28-11 linux-headers-2.6.28-11-generic Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them
[02:47] <hosk> 9.10b crashes when i try to install
[02:47] <Malcolm_09> Othman what do i do after that?
[02:47] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: when it's time  do a guided install for 9.10  let it take up the whole hard disk,  and use it yeah.  If you really want you can maybe put a bigger hard disk in there
[02:48] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: in the mean time you can install xubuntu into your 9.04 install and try it
[02:48] <Othman> mount list all peripheric mounted
[02:48] <Malcolm_09> ok
[02:48] <kolby> I have an idea that could be used with bash.
[02:48] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: so i get  a new disc and do aclean install and it automatically goes in ext4, and it wipes everything eelse out including  ext3 right?
[02:48] <Live_Android> A little offtopic: When do you think that CAD programs will be fully supported (without WINE)?
[02:48] <pjustice13> I am trying to log on to my wireless, but it keeps replacing the wireless password with other letters
[02:48] <kolby> when a user enters a file name into the shell, bash could call gnome-open to open it instead of returning an error.
[02:49] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: well yes that's the idea,   backup any data,  delete your Ext3 partition,  and  put 9.10 on with Ext4, when it's time :)
[02:49] <kolby> who likes this idea?  Any suggestions?
[02:49] <linux__> anyone has an idea if ubuntu is more stable than latest stable release
[02:49] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: no data to backup dont worry..she is my interent runner thats all!!!
[02:49] <Malcolm_09> how do i format a drive with a terminal ? need help
[02:49] <nic1> hey any one pls tel why i get tat error msg: it ttells, The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: linux-headers-2.6.28-11 linux-headers-2.6.28-11-generic Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them
[02:49] <linux__> anyone has an idea if ubuntu LTS is more stable than latest stable release
[02:49] <linux__> i meant
[02:49] <edbian> Malcolm_09: Hi!
[02:49] <sebsebseb> linux__: that really depends on hardware, which version of Ubuntu is more stable or whatever you want to call it
[02:50] <pjustice13> help I am trying to log on to my wireless, but it keeps replacing the wireless password with other letters
[02:50] <Malcolm_09> edbian : HI
[02:50] <edbian> Malcolm_09: PM me?
[02:50] <sebsebseb> linux__: for example 9.04 sucks  with many Intel graphics cards, but  a lot of ATI graphics cards people get issues with as well,  the Intel graphics card issues will be fixed in 9.10
[02:50] <Live_Android> nic1, it just means that they are orphaned and ubuntu doesn't need them to operate
[02:50] <joebodo> nic1 that's not an error, it's just telling you that there are some unused packages
[02:50] <Othman> malcolm : u can download gparted (sudo apt-get install gparted) to format any partition or usb
[02:50] <Malcolm_09> ok
[02:50] <joebodo> nic1 you can run the suggested command to remove them
[02:50] <linux__> my comp is 2006
[02:50] <Malcolm_09> i treid that
[02:50] <Dr_Masters> gparted is awesome
[02:50] <Malcolm_09> but the format failed
[02:50] <Dr_Masters> mmmmm
[02:50] <linux__> it has ati radeon xpress 200
[02:50] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb: i am hoping that the clean install wipes the ext3 becasue i do not know how, so hopefully it all unfolds before me when i do it...surprised the new ubuntu is faster?
[02:50] <nic1> ok thank you
[02:50] <edbian> He asked for a terminal way
[02:51] <Bilge> What's the best way to execute a command when any user logs on
[02:51] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb gotta run thanks willl order the disk tomorrow thanks
[02:51] <linux__> with ub 8.04 i had google earth flickering together with compiz
[02:51] <coordinador> hello, i want to report a but, i need to know which is the package of gnome main menu in ubuntu
[02:51] <Othman> malcolm : right click on your usb and choose format
[02:51] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: I think  if you do guided install and say use  whole hard disk, it will wipe it out,  if not you can delete it yourself on the Live CD   system > administration > partition editor
[02:51] <linux__> looks like a common prob
[02:51] <pjustice13> help I am trying to log on to my wireless, but it keeps replacing the wireless password with other letters
[02:51] <clearscreen> can I use ls to list files by line, but not include all the info that -l flag provides?
[02:51] <clearscreen> I just want filename on every line
[02:51] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: you can't order those CD's just yet, as far as I know
[02:51] <DigitalKiwi> ls -1
[02:52] <linux__> anyway what i mean is
[02:52] <Fabrizio> sebsebseb ok thank you
[02:52] <Penol> pjustice13: so u cant login ? or is it only changed like in crypted ?
[02:52] <sebsebseb> Fabrizio: 9.10 needs to be out first
[02:52] <sebsebseb> released
[02:52] <linux__> passing to 9.04 is worth
[02:52] <joebodo> clearscreen you can try "man ls" there's about 100 options
[02:52] <linux__> is it much better
[02:52] <linux__> etc
[02:52] <sebsebseb> linux__: oh I see
[02:52] <sebsebseb> linux__: not much point putting 9.04 on   right now if you got an install that works  reasonably, since 9.10 comes out on October 29th
[02:52] <Malcolm_09> i think i fond my own solution
[02:53] <Malcolm_09> in the add/remove thing there is a tool called Gnome Format
[02:53] <pjustice13> penol, no I can't login, when I looked to see if the password was typed correctly under the network settings it was replaced with random letters
[02:53] <Othman> malcolm ??
[02:53] <Malcolm_09> Ima use that
[02:53] <Malcolm_09> Quack?
[02:53] <Othman> ok
[02:53] <Othman> enjoy
[02:54] <sebsebseb> linux__: Which graphics cards?  and some problems work much better when Compiz isn't enabled
[02:54] <N8_> Hi, new Linux user here. whats the quickest way to see what video driver release im currently using?
[02:54] <sebsebseb> some programs above
[02:54] <Penol> pjustice13: check in our network settings, remove the automaticly connect thing, and then type the password, it is kind of buggy to me to :P
[02:54] <linux__> i hope i won-t pass al my lie installing reinstalling and waiting releases :)
[02:54] <linux__> life
[02:54] <Penol> pjustice13: * your
[02:54] <sebsebseb> linux__: yeah I know what you mean
[02:54] <sebsebseb> I think
[02:54] <pjustice13> penol, ok I'll try that
[02:55] <linux__> thanks sebsebseb
[02:55] <Penol> We gonna make a releaseparty in oslo(Norway) the day 9.10 comes out :P, free beer and stuff :D
[02:55] <sebsebseb> linux__:  releases may be April and October, but  there is still quite a wait between releases
[02:55] <joebodo> Penol Im in !
[02:55] <denis__> hy
[02:55] <linux__> cool Penol
[02:55] <colorlessprism> i really enjoy UNR
[02:55] <Malcolm_09> Hey i got a error "/dev/sdb: unrecognised disk label
[02:55] <Malcolm_09> " <--- what this mean?
[02:55] <linux__> may i come?
[02:55] <edbian> linux__: I use debian and I don't get a new release for like 2 or 3 years
[02:55] <MenZa> !offtopic
[02:55] <denis__> what is this?
[02:55] <denis__> joder
[02:56] <denis__> :((((((
[02:56] <colorlessprism> it works without any problems on my Wind U123
[02:56] <edbian> Malcolm_09: PM me!  I know exactly what that means but it's a long story
[02:56] <Penol> linux__ / joebodo: yeah, but if you dont want a long trip, we gonna host a videocam stream :P
[02:56] <MenZa> !pm | Penol
[02:56] <linux__> only prob is from sicily to oslo is a good walk
[02:56] <linux__> i should leave now
[02:56] <subone> Anytime I have one of my media players go full screen, both of my monitors go black for a half a second even if this fullscreen does not change the resolution and is only related to one screen. It also flashes black whenever I am watching fullscreen and I get a notification displayed on the other screen, regardless of the fact that I can see the other screen just fine without need for any resolution change or something. I have the latest ATI
[02:56] <subone>  drivers. Does that make me void for support, or can someone tell me what might be causing this, or at least wwhere I might look.
[02:56] <Penol> MenZa: ?
[02:56] <innociv> After doing update+upgrade I'm having issues.  Is there a way to just revert back? :/
[02:57] <pjustice13> penol, changing the automatic login didn't change anything, instead of my password it shows this: 4242cdc80822d6051223ac2cc0a035c0f30d67bddba8b8cc06ee58ee294662ea
[02:57] <MenZa> Penol: Keeping it in here would allow others to benefit from the solution as well.
[02:57] <linux__> what is update upgrade
[02:57] <Penol> MenZa: im not helping in pm :/ lulz
[02:57] <innociv> apt-get update
[02:57] <joebodo> innociv what issue are you having ?
[02:57] <innociv> apt-get upgrade
[02:57] <innociv> something with memcached Warning: session_write_close() [function.session-write-close]: Failed to write session data (memcache). Please verify that the current setting of session.save_path is correct (tcp://<IP_ADDRESS>:11211?persistent=1&weight=1&timeout=1&retry_interval=15)
[02:58] <Penol> pjustice13_ the 4242cdc80822d6051223ac2cc0a035c0f30d67bddba8b8cc06ee58ee294662ea is your password, its crypted, can u connect ?
[02:58] <evanescent> are there any digital pens which don't require special paper or a tablet and are known to work well on ubuntu
[02:58] <innociv> That no one seems to be able to help with and i can't find anything on google
[02:58] <Jordan_U> subone: Are you using compiz?
[02:58] <MenZa> innociv: update downloads the latest package index, upgrade actually upgrades your packages.
[02:58] <N8_> Whats the best way to check what video drivers im running?
[02:58] <pjustice13> penol, no I can't connect
[02:58] <innociv> menza, yes.  update, then upgrade.  That gets latest then upgrades them.
[02:58] <pjustice13> penol, I will check the password.
[02:58] <MenZa> innociv: correct.
[02:58] <Penol> pjustice13: Ok, is the wlan device installed correctly?
[02:59] <Jordan_U> N8_: Look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see what driver it says was loaded
[02:59] <KoalaJim> meh.
[02:59] <pjustice13> penol, I'm not sure
[02:59] <N8_> Jordan_U: thank you
[02:59] <Penol> pjustice13: What is the device name ?
[02:59] <Jordan_U> N8_: np
[03:00] <pjustice13> The wireless router? Netgear rangemax
[03:00] <Penol> pjustice13: and the device in your pc ?
[03:01] <pjustice13> penol, I think its this Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter
[03:01] <Madcamper> thedude42: can i pm you?
[03:02] <bottiger> If I set a cronjob to run at midnigth and my computer is turned off, will it run when I turn it on in the morning?
[03:02] <linux__> how is weather in oslo right now
[03:02] <Penol> pjustice13: ok, i will google i!
[03:02] <Penol> linux__: cold, and the winter is right around the corner :P
[03:02] <pjustice13> penol, ok
[03:03] <thedude42> Madcamper, go for it
[03:03] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[03:03] <Penol> hi mattwj2002
[03:03] <mattwj2002> I need a jpeg2000 viewer for ubuntu
[03:03] <mattwj2002> that is different than a jpeg :)
[03:04] <Penol> mattwj2002: apt-cache search jpeg2000
[03:04] <denis__> 1380
[03:04] <denis__> where i am?
[03:04] <denis__> u are u people?
[03:04] <denis__> ?
[03:04] <coordinador> *HELLO, i want to report a bug, but I need to know which is the package of gnome main menu , could somebody please tellme which is it?
[03:05] <Penol> denis__: No, we are robots!
[03:05] <zelda> hi guys
[03:05] <mattwj2002> :P
[03:05] <linux__> hi zelda
[03:05] <Pilif12p> Penol: if we are robots we must obey the law of the robots.
[03:06] <fhenning09> netgear drivers for linux possible?
[03:06] <zelda> Is Ubuntu Server Edition easy to manage and setup for a home network?
[03:06]  * mattwj2002 attacks denis__
[03:06] <zelda> x<10 computers
[03:07] <joebodo> zelda server edition is command line only - it would depend upon your linux knowledge
[03:07] <Live_Android> zelda, it is pretty much ubuntu sans GUI
[03:07] <zelda> ah, then nevermind.
[03:07] <zelda> im moderate user.. not a power user
[03:07] <coordinador> zelda, the main difference between ubuntu normal and ubuntu server is only the user interface
[03:07] <Live_Android> I've put xfce on ubuntu server once and when I needed GUI I just ran startx
[03:07] <coordinador> zelda, you can install normal ubuntu and install the services that you want to use later
[03:07] <Live_Android> althoguh for servers you usually don't want GUI
[03:07] <Live_Android> although*
[03:08] <DigitalKiwi> joebodo: darn you, here I saw "zelda server edition" and thought there was a new OS I'd not heard of, but nooo  you were talking to someone :(
[03:08] <zelda> Android.. Looks like thats going to be an awesome os
[03:08] <coordinador> *HELLO, i want to report a bug, but I need to know which is the package of gnome main menu , could somebody please tellme which is it?
[03:08] <joebodo> :/
[03:08] <zelda> meaning for cellular
[03:08] <kristijan> any ideas why a 64 bit ubuntu would be slow, unresponsive and overall of poor performance when compared to a 32 bit one?
[03:08] <MenZa> coordinador: That's an applet for gnome-panel.
[03:08] <coordinador> MenZa, thanks
[03:08] <MenZa> coordinador: welcome.
[03:09] <thedude42> kristijan, that has not been my experience
[03:09] <KnifeySpooney> Can I use a Microsoft VHD created by Disk2vhd ( http://bit.ly/TlQ5b ) inside VirtualBox?
[03:09] <kristijan> thedude42: i have installed 9.04 64bit and it seems a lot slower than 32. i'm using the exact same hardware, so i cannot really figure out why
[03:09] <Live_Android> drivers maybe?
[03:10] <thedude42> kristijan, what video hardware do you have?
[03:10] <kristijan> thedude42: nvidia geforce 6600
[03:10] <kristijan> thedude42: but nevermind that, i'm getting a new pc tomorrow and i'm worried to put 64 bit ubuntu on it if it'll be like this
[03:11] <thedude42> kristijan, very unlikely
[03:11] <DigitalKiwi> how much ram?
[03:11] <kristijan> 1gb
[03:11] <DigitalKiwi> hahahaha
[03:11] <bruenig> DigitalKiwi: 298 bytes
[03:11] <pjustice13> penol, are you still here?
[03:11] <joebodo> kristijan 64 is preferred over 32 -
[03:11] <infid> anyone know a better terminal than gnome-terminal?
[03:11] <bruenig> infid: urxvt
[03:11] <DigitalKiwi> bruenig: nou
[03:11] <MenZa> !best | infid
[03:12] <bruenig> DigitalKiwi: don't you even
[03:12] <kristijan> joebodo: i know, that is why this is bugging me, i expected a faster system, got a slower. the only thing that is faster is full screen flash
[03:12] <joebodo> infid there's a ton of terminals - depends upon what you want different
[03:12] <DigitalKiwi> MenZa: he didn't say best he said better!
[03:12] <infid> i didnt say 'best' i said better
[03:12] <DigitalKiwi> urxvt++
[03:12] <bruenig> urxvt - 2, * - 0
[03:12] <infid> there's no package for urxvt
[03:12] <kristijan> thedude42: i will try then, and see what happens. maybe some of my leftover configuratiion files are messing things up. i'll do a clean install on the new pc and see
[03:12] <bruenig> !info unicode-rxvt
[03:12] <bruenig> wat
[03:12] <MenZa> rxvt-unicode.
[03:12] <bruenig> oh
[03:12] <innociv> Nevermind I got it
[03:12] <bruenig> !info rxvt-unicode
[03:13] <joebodo> kristijan make sure you have the proper proprietary drivers installed and you can check "top" or the system monitor to see if something is using too much processor
[03:13] <WhyUbuntuSucks> Hello.
[03:13] <bruenig> !offtopic | WhyUbuntuSucks
[03:13]  * Pilif12p predicts a troll
[03:13] <infid> bruenig thanks i'll try it
[03:13] <DigitalKiwi> kristijan: ubuntu already uses a lot of ram, 64 bit OSs use more ram than 32 bit equivalent, so you're not getting to see the benefits of 64 bit (in fact you're getting worse performance) if you had more ram you would see the opposite
[03:13] <WhyUbuntuSucks> I recently had the misfortune of installing Debian Linux with the desktop via apt.
[03:13] <bruenig> DigitalKiwi doesn't know what he is talking about
[03:14] <DigitalKiwi> bruenig is a troll
[03:14] <bruenig> that is an offensive charge; you better have evidence
[03:14] <kristijan> DigitalKiwi: so with 4gb i should be all set?
[03:14] <WhyUbuntuSucks> Why does it take two minutes to open "My Computer" in Ubuntu?
[03:14] <DigitalKiwi> yeah
[03:14] <mattwj2002> !jpeg2000
[03:14] <bruenig> no one should ever need more than 512MB of RAM
[03:14] <MenZa> !ops | WhyUbuntuSucks
[03:14] <sebsebseb> kristijan: If you have a 64bit proccessor you could run 64bit Ubuntu on 1GB RAM, you probably won't really notice any advantage though
[03:14] <thedude42> kristijan, did you do an upgrade or something?
[03:14] <MenZa> WhyUbuntuSucks: Don't waste your time.
[03:14] <WhyUbuntuSucks> I have a 500 MHz Compaq PC with 512 MB of RAM.
[03:15] <kristijan> thedude42: no, i installed ubuntu 64 over my 32 bit, but left my home on the other partition
[03:15] <bruenig> WhyUbuntuSucks: use a lighter distro
[03:15] <Malcolm_09> Im goin to buy 4 gigs of ram should i use 64bit ubuntu
[03:15] <quellhorst> bruenig: or get a bigger hammer
[03:15] <WhyUbuntuSucks> Why should I? Isn't Ubuntu a Windows replacement?
[03:15] <kristijan> sebsebseb: well, i'm not getting any advantage, it's more like disadvantage. :D
[03:15] <edbian> WhyUbuntuSucks: Are you here for help?
[03:15] <bruenig> WhyUbuntuSucks: windows is slow too
[03:15] <WhyUbuntuSucks> Yes.
[03:15] <tritium> MenZa: I'm watching.
[03:15] <Pilif12p> WhyUbuntuSucks: try Puppy linux if you want one for that.
[03:15] <Flannel> bruenig: He's not offtopic after saying hello.
[03:15] <bruenig> Flannel: pre-emption!
[03:15] <WhyUbuntuSucks> No, Windows NT 4 and Windows NT 3.51 are fast!
[03:15] <Malcolm_09> I LOVE PUPY LINUX!!!
[03:15] <sebsebseb> kristijan: 32bit is more compatible or whatever with certain things as well
[03:15] <thedude42> kristijan, yeah, it is possible that something in an old file is causing issues, do you see anythign wierd in /var/log/syslog?
[03:16] <Malcolm_09> PUPPYIES ARE AWSOME and so is caps lock
[03:16] <WhyUbuntuSucks> In Windows NT 4, everything is immediately.
[03:16] <joebodo> !offtopic | WhyUbuntuSucks
[03:16] <DigitalKiwi> immediately crashed*
[03:16] <infid> can you run Konsole in ubuntu
[03:16] <crasher> NT 4 and 3.51 have more holes than swiss cheese.
[03:16] <Live_Android> Windows NT4 also doesn't get supported by MS
[03:16] <sebsebseb> infid: yes
[03:16] <MenZa> !offtopic | Everyone
[03:16] <WhyUbuntuSucks> Am I offtopic asking why Ubuntu is so slow?
[03:16] <kristijan> thedude42: no, logs are clear except the usual stuff. nevermind, i'm leaving this pc tomorrow anyway, i just wanted to check are things usually this bad or is it due to this pc so that i know what to do with the new one
[03:17] <sebsebseb> infid: You can run the KDE   terminal  Konsole in Ubuntu
[03:17] <kristijan> sebsebseb: i know, it took some time till flash started working properly. :S
[03:17] <mattwj2002> can anyone help me find a jpeg2000 viewer for ubuntu?
[03:17] <infid> cool i'm in stalling it then
[03:17] <WhyUbuntuSucks> crasher: My Windows NT 3.1 NAT router is rock solid.
[03:17] <joebodo> 32 bit can only address about 3.5 gig of the memory - if you have 4 gig, you may want to use 64 bit
[03:17] <sebsebseb> kristijan: 1GB RAM, 32bit 64bit, I guess it doesn't really matter that much
[03:17] <thedude42> kristijan, yeah, i run 64bit on this machine and my work laptop, no issues
[03:17] <kristijan> sebsebseb: i know, but the new one will have 4gb so, i guess 64 is the way to go?
[03:18] <vecto__> yes, 64 bit
[03:18] <Malcolm_09> ok
[03:18] <sebsebseb> kristijan: well 32bit OS's  can't see all of 4GB RAM,  or whatever they say
[03:18] <Malcolm_09> why is it that 32 bit systems cant see 4 or more gigs of ram
[03:18] <kristijan> thank you all, i'll try with 64 on the new pc and see what happens. i hope it'll be super effective
[03:18] <vecto__> otherwise u can't use all of the memory
[03:18] <thedude42> Malcolm_09, you're misunderstanding
[03:19] <thedude42> that is not true
[03:19] <speculater> please help, what does "find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd" mean?
[03:19] <vecto__> the OS can't adress more.
[03:19] <trism> Malcolm_09: 4gigs is 2^32
[03:19] <speculater> does 'uname -r' mean type the user name and the -r?
[03:19] <vecto__> right :D
[03:19] <thedude42> vecto__, no, that's not what it is
[03:19] <suseflanders> If a script contains the -v (verbose) argument (such as "rsync -av blah/ blah2/), will it affect performance if the script is executed outside of a terminal window, such as through a main menu shortcut?
[03:19] <thedude42> the 32 bit addressability ios PER PROCESS
[03:19] <sebsebseb> speculater: no
[03:19] <sebsebseb> speculater: if you do uname -r in your terminal it will tell you what kernel your running
[03:20] <joebodo> uname -r is the kernel name
[03:20] <sebsebseb> speculater: modules, I assume kernel modules in your case
[03:20] <mattwj2002> jpeg2000 viewers anyone?
[03:20] <mattwj2002> :)
[03:20] <speculater> ah
[03:20] <MenZa> Malcolm_09: They weren't built to use it. They can use 2^32 bytes of ram, which is ~4GB. 64-bit can address 2^64 bytes, which is closer to 16,000,000,000 GB of RAM.
[03:20] <speculater> yes, I have no sound
[03:20] <speculater> and I am trying another.... 16th atempt at fixing it
[03:20] <Malcolm_09> oh
[03:20] <thedude42> NO, THAT IS NOT THE DEAL WITH 32 BIT vs 64 BIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:20] <speculater> I'm ultra new to Linux, and am trying all the forum help I can find
[03:21] <joebodo> mattwj2002 you can find alternative software here: http://www.osalt.com
[03:21] <sebsebseb> speculater: Oh new to Linux,  your on a lap top, and your sound don't work?
[03:21] <bazhang> thedude42, no need for caps
[03:21] <thedude42> THE DEAL IS THAT IN A SINGLE PROCESS, IN A 32 BIT SYSTEM, YOU CAN'T ADDRESS MORE THAN 2^32
[03:21] <Malcolm_09> Irc chat room isthe best way for mean to lern about linux
[03:21] <lstarnes> !caps > thedude42
[03:21] <speculater> yep
[03:21] <Malcolm_09> forums arte slow
[03:21] <shane2peru> speculater: by the time you are done, you will be the Linux Sound king
[03:21] <speculater> exactly that
[03:21] <a_> can someone help me please? I get a "window creation error" when trying to load second life in ubuntu.
[03:21] <speculater> I hope so lol
[03:21] <mattwj2002> I searched for jpeg2000 and nothing came up
[03:21] <mattwj2002> :(
[03:21] <sebsebseb> speculater: well that sounds,  unfortunatlly sound on lap tops and it not working  on Ubuntu is a common issue,  but there are differnet issues, becasue of differnet hardware
[03:21] <mattwj2002> thanks anyways joebodo
[03:21] <mattwj2002> :(
[03:22] <sebsebseb> speculater: that was meant to start with, well that's unforunate, unfortunatlly....
[03:22] <a_> second life worked before, but I may have fooled around with something and ruined it
[03:22] <kristijan> speculater: first you should try typing alsamixer in the terminal and see if anything is muted. that is the first problem i had with linux :D
[03:22] <joebodo> !sound | speculater
[03:22] <vecto__> check if the soundcard is supportet by alsa
[03:23] <infid> flannel  rm'ing ~/.screen_profiles/ fixed it
[03:23] <mattwj2002> I found a program
[03:23] <mattwj2002> :)
[03:23] <shane2peru> speculater: what laptop do you have?  And do you know what the sound card type is?
[03:23] <joebodo> !alternative software
[03:23] <nic1> how can i chek what all tty1 is running?
[03:23] <Flannel> !alternatives | joebodo
[03:23] <Live_Android> laptops usually have integrated sound
[03:24] <a_> does anyone here use second life?
[03:24] <Live_Android> shouldn't that be "play"?
[03:24] <vecto__> a_: no. Why don't play games in your real life?
[03:24] <sebsebseb> mattwj2002: joebodo  there's also http://www.linuxeq.com and remember to install stuff from the Ubuntu repos/resporitories  so that's add/remove, synaptic, or apt-get   and if you want something that isn't in there,  make sure to get it from a trusted source
[03:24] <kristijan> i'm having problems with my first life
[03:25] <a_> lol
[03:25] <MenZa> !anyone | a_
[03:25] <jimmy_82> hey hows it goin
[03:25] <vecto__> kristijan: me too :D
[03:25] <shane2peru> kristijan: you are going to have to be a little more specific to get help. lol :D
[03:25] <soreau> kristijan: You better fix it, I don't think you get any extra lives
[03:25] <kristijan> shane2peru: i got a window opening error, and now it's hot
[03:25] <pjustice13> help, I am having trouble logging on to my wireless
[03:26] <a_> well I get a "window creation error" when I try to open it
[03:26] <Live_Android> is your router broadcasting ssid
[03:26] <vecto__> in your real life there isn't a console for cheats^^
[03:26] <pjustice13> live_android, yes
[03:26] <shane2peru> I replaced all the glass in my Windows with Linux. :)  They are secure now.
[03:26] <Live_Android> pjustice13, also is it it with encryption (WPA/WEP)
[03:26] <joebodo> a_ there's a post in the forums with the same issue : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455791 - no resolution though
[03:27] <mac9416> n #keryx
[03:27] <kristijan> shane2peru: unless someone breaks dash nine your windows :D
[03:27] <pjustice13> LIve_android, yes I believe so
[03:27] <jimmy_82> need help ubuntu just hangs after entering my name and password.
[03:27] <a_> ok thx joe
[03:27] <joebodo> a_ this looks like the resolution: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-10650
[03:27] <Dr_Masters> does anyone know how to kill your network connection with a terminal command?
[03:27] <vecto__> jimmy_82: is the Password correct?
[03:28] <lstarnes> Dr_Masters: maybe sudo invoke-rc.d networking stop
[03:28] <jimmy_82> yea. i have to login using the failsafegnome mode
[03:28] <Pilif12p> ,part
[03:28] <jimmy_82> but regular logon wont load
[03:28] <RegressLess> I have a partition set to automatically mount via Startup Applications. Can I add something to the command to keep it from putting an icon on my desktop?
[03:28] <a_> thanx again joe
[03:28] <Dr_Masters> * Deconfiguring network interfaces...                                          Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[03:28] <Dr_Masters>                                                                          [ OK ]
[03:29] <joebodo> Regressless you can add the mount to your /etc/fstab instead
[03:29] <MenZa> RegressLess: You'll have to disable that in gconf-editor
[03:29] <vecto__> is there anything saying "fail"?
[03:30] <Dr_Masters> Istarnes, that did not work, might you have another idea?
[03:30] <RegressLess> joebodo: yeah, couldn't get that to work so I tried an easy way
[03:30] <lstarnes> Dr_Masters: it should work
[03:30] <pjustice13> live_android, do you know of any solutions
[03:30] <jimmy_82> nope nothing. it just hangs.
[03:30] <joebodo> !fstab
[03:30] <Live_Android> try https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/internet/C/troubleshooting-wireless.html
[03:30] <bastidrazor> RegressLess: mount it to some place other than /media ..or do like MenZa said and disable show_volume in gconf-editor
[03:30] <lstarnes> Dr_Masters: the other way is to shut down each interface individually with sudo ifconfig interface-name down
[03:30] <jimmy_82> happened after a forced shutdown. was asked to ran fsck on bootup, did that restarted then it just hangs
[03:31] <vecto__> jimmy_82: maybe you shot a sector on your hdd
[03:31] <shane2peru> !who jimmy_82
[03:31] <shane2peru> !who | jimmy_82
[03:31] <pjustice13> help, I am having trouble logging on to my wireless
[03:31] <Live_Android> pjustice13, is it your first time ever connecting to this network?
[03:31] <jimmy_82> ah ok sorry first time on here
[03:32] <pjustice13> live_android, yes
[03:32] <RegressLess> MenZa: do you know where that is in gconf-editor?
[03:32] <bottiger> If I set a cronjob to run at midnigth and my computer is turned off, will it run when I turn it on in the morning?
[03:32] <MenZa> RegressLess: Yes, give me a minute
[03:32] <vecto__> jimmy_82, if u have a live-cd u might test your hdd for errors
[03:32] <Live_Android> pjustice13, you're running 9.04 right
[03:32] <MenZa> RegressLess: RegressLess /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible
[03:32] <pjustice13> live_android, yes
[03:33] <Live_Android> you should try the stuff in https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/internet/C/troubleshooting-wireless.html
[03:33] <bastidrazor> RegressLess: notice that unchecking that option will keep sd cards from showing on the desktop too
[03:33] <Live_Android> if it still doesn't work you might need to use terminal
[03:33] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 pjustice13
[03:33] <jimmy_82> vecto, how would i test that
[03:33] <Dr_Masters> Thank you very much, Istarnes "sudo ifconfig interface-name down" worked for me
[03:34] <RegressLess> MenZa: as long as I can still find them under Places, I'm good
[03:34] <MenZa> RegressLess: Oh, you'll be able to.
[03:34] <lstarnes> Dr_Masters: that is a lowercase L, not a capital i
[03:34] <pjustice13> live_android, I will read through this
[03:34] <pjustice13> bazhang, I will try this
[03:35] <RegressLess> MenZa: worked, thanks
[03:35] <cloud125p> can't figure out how to reboot my mini, so that i can reset my password because i forgot it
[03:35] <Dr_Masters> oh, sorry lstarnes
[03:35] <Live_Android> 9.04 has much better network support, but what bazhang posted should work all the way back to version 6 LTS
[03:35] <MenZa> RegressLess: excellent, np. :)
[03:35] <shane2peru> speculater: what Ubuntu did you install?
[03:36] <RegressLess> Is there a way to make window borders easier to grab? They're so tiny that I struggle to get a hold on them to resize windows.
[03:37] <shane2peru> speculater: can you post your sound card here, perhaps someone may know more about that card.
[03:37] <joebodo> regressless you can use a different window border (in appearances)
[03:37] <shane2peru> speculater: also, I have had luck removing pulse audio, because it didn't work well for me, on my intel box
[03:37] <Live_Android> speculater, if it's a laptop it might be better to just post the model #
[03:38] <cloud125p> can't figure out how to reboot my mini, so that i can reset my password because i forgot it
[03:39] <RegressLess> joebodo: I guess I'll just deal with it--I really like this theme.
[03:39] <joebodo> cloud125p have you tried " sudo passwd <username>"
[03:39] <Malcolm_09> wooo
[03:40] <joebodo> RegressLess i have unzipped the theme that i liked and changed the config file to have a wider border - i had the same issue
[03:40] <cloud125p> joebodo, what do you mean?
[03:41] <joebodo> cloud125p are you currently logged in ?
[03:41] <cloud125p> im completely new to ubuntu
[03:41] <cloud125p> yes, but i cant do any administrative things without my password
[03:41] <Fullmetal99012> I cant get the machine to boot off of a live USB drive
[03:42] <durt> cloud125p, hold shift at boot to get a recovery option, no password required.
[03:42] <Live_Android> Fullmetal99012 did you make the USB drive bootable
[03:42] <cloud125p> durt, how to i get to boot
[03:42] <cloud125p> ?
[03:42] <Fullmetal99012> it will satrt to boot, so i know its bootable
[03:42] <carpediem> RegressLess: another option I usually use, Alt - Middle Mouse button to resize windows
[03:43] <Fullmetal99012> but it gives an ata soft reset failure
[03:43] <Live_Android> maybe some of the hardware is not compatible...
[03:43] <RegressLess> carpediem: nice name, nice idea, thanks
[03:43] <Fullmetal99012> oh
[03:43] <Fullmetal99012> i see thanks
[03:43] <Live_Android> I had someone try to install ubuntu on a NT4 machine Pentium II...
[03:44] <durt> !password | cloud125p
[03:44] <timClicks> is there an apt-get/apt-cache command that will tell you which packages you have installed?
[03:44] <Live_Android> timClicks, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366
[03:45] <Live_Android> it makes a list of packages you installed
[03:45] <timClicks> thanks Live_Android, will look into it
[03:45] <ntsasng> help me
[03:45] <ntsasng> i can't upgrade
[03:45] <Live_Android> ntsasng be more specific.
[03:45] <ntsasng> :(
[03:45] <gilch> timClicks: you can use "dpkg --get-selections"
[03:45] <Dr_Masters> lstarnes, would you know how to list the network interface that is currently in use?
[03:46] <gilch> i would pipe it to a file though
[03:46] <thedude42> maybe he's a fly with a human head stuck in the interweb....
[03:46] <shane2peru> ntsasng: what do you have installed and what are you trying to upgrade to?
[03:46] <ntsasng> yes
[03:46] <Moc> anyone recommend me a video editor (h264 hd) that would allow me to do some small tv style recording (adding text bar at the bottoms, stuff like that) ?
[03:47] <ntsasng> here
[03:47] <ntsasng> http://paste.ubuntu.com/290481/
[03:47] <shane2peru> Moc: you can try kdenlive for editing, or Lives or there is another
[03:47] <shane2peru> Moc: you are going to find Video editing in Linux is still being developed.
[03:47] <carpediem> Moc: there's lots of options.  I'm liking OpenShot a lot....rapidly progressing project
[03:47] <shane2peru> carpediem: you got openshot installed?
[03:47] <carpediem> shane2peru: yep, ppa
[03:48] <shane2peru> carpediem: ahh, ok, because I tried their installer, and it really left me a mess
[03:48] <carpediem> shane2peru: http://www.openshotvideo.com/2009/09/openshot-ppa-come-and-get-it.html
[03:48] <ntsasng> No body help me?