[00:07] <blackboxsw> sarnold thanks. johnsonshi yes that is correct, you can run DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck make deb  to avoid running tests on deb creation in cloud-init
[07:39] <ethi1ca4l> hello
[07:40] <ethi1ca4l> please, I need help with cloud-init
[07:43] <ethi1ca4l> I want to create image for DigitalOcean with debian 8 but If I install cloud-init in debian 8 so I don`t see DigitalOcean in config....I work long time with this but no successful


[00:03] <RAOF> cskmax: There's a list of mirrors and their freshness on launchpad, I know.
[00:04] <RAOF> cskmax: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors , for example :)
[00:13] <cskmax> great, got one in my state - that's the sort of list I couldn't find through Google, thanks again
[03:15] <scyrma> kde 4.1, nvidia driver, new xorg.conf ... I think I'll like this new kde :)
[03:41] <DanaG> Heh, just came back from OS X.  It's a great feeling booting back into Linux, for me.
[03:41] <DanaG> s/it's/it gives/
[03:41] <LSD|Ninja> lol
[03:42] <DanaG> Heh, try to find an app like Amarok or QuodLibet, that can play music by folders..........
[03:42] <DanaG> It simply doesn't exist.  Not a one!
[03:42] <Hobbsee> exaile?
[03:42] <DanaG> Don't think that's available for OS X, is it?
[03:43] <DanaG> The only thing remotely close is the thing formerly known as xbox media center.
[03:44] <Hobbsee> oh, osx.  right.
[03:44] <DanaG> ... and using a media center app for music playback does not cut it.
[03:44] <DanaG> Therefore, I shall never be able to use OS X as a main OS; in fact, you couldn't pay me to do so.
[03:44] <pwnguin> wait what?
[03:44] <pwnguin> itunes?
[03:44] <DanaG> Nope, that does tags only.
[03:45] <LSD|Ninja> DanaG: I feel that same way about Linux :P
[03:45] <pwnguin> ah, music by folder
[03:45] <pwnguin> not music IN folder
[03:45] <DanaG> ... and then you have the Verizon music phones, which can't comprehend folders.
[03:45] <DanaG> I don't mean they don't do by folders (yeah, they do tags instead)...
[03:45] <DanaG> I mean they open the MyMusic folder... and use all the files in that one folder.  Non-recursively@!
[03:46] <DanaG> My portable media player: Cowon iAudio6.
[03:49] <DanaG> wtf... somehow my PCM volume got set to zero.
[03:50] <DanaG> How do you set the default application for certain filetypes?
[03:50] <DanaG> I want to use gmplayer for mkv and ogm, but it insists on using Totem.
[03:50] <RAOF> It's under "nautilus preferences"
[03:51] <DanaG> Oh yeah, setting it in Gnome doesn't set what xdg-mime uses.
[03:51] <RAOF> Sorry, that's a barefaced lie.
[03:51] <RAOF> I was thinking of removable media.
[03:51] <DanaG> Odd... I open "downloads/" in alt-f2, and it pops open my quodlibet window?  That's just bizarre.
[03:51] <RAOF> xdg-mime is likely broken right now, given that xdg-open can't detect GNOME at the moment, and so falls back on crapness.
[03:52] <DanaG> downloads is a folder.
[03:52] <DanaG> Even in Hardy, I had issues with not being able to set some things.
[03:52] <DanaG> that's screwy.
[03:52] <DanaG> It even LAUNCHES quodlibet for it.
[03:53] <DanaG> Opening from Nautilus uses the Gnome setting, but opening from Azureus does not.
[03:55] <DanaG> Aah, quodlibet was set as the default for folders.
[04:10] <yellowz> hi
[04:10] <yellowz> just installed intrepid and xserver doesnt want to load
[04:11] <yellowz> is this a common issue in this alpha release?
[04:11] <Hobbsee> boot without splash?
[04:11] <Hobbsee> does it still happen then?
[04:11] <hwilde> doest thou havest an error perchance
[04:11] <yellowz> it boots but it sends me to the console mode
[04:11] <yellowz> no errors just sais xservers failed
[04:11] <yellowz> and system clock failed
[04:12] <hwilde> /var/logl/Xorg.0.log
[04:12] <yellowz> cec
[04:12] <yellowz> sec*
[04:13] <yellowz> i cant paste it, so what do u want me to do ?
[04:14] <RAOF> Pastebin it.
[04:14] <yellowz> didnt i justsay i can't?
[04:14] <RAOF> The package "pastebinit" may be useful for you :)
[04:14] <yellowz> i have no gui
[04:14] <yellowz> all just console
[04:14] <RAOF> You don't need one.
[04:14] <RAOF> Install pastebinit, and run "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[04:14] <yellowz> k let me install that package...how do i exit vim?
[04:15] <RAOF> :q
[04:15] <RAOF> Possibly with an <esc> at the start.
[04:16] <yellowz> i always have a xorg.o.log.old
[04:16] <RAOF> That's the previous Xorg.0.log, yes.
[04:16] <yellowz> http://pastebin.com/fea86a9d
[04:17] <hwilde> umm line 172  #
[04:17] <hwilde> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
[04:18] <yellowz> that means a need a new nvidia kernel? which i dont know how to get..
[04:18] <RAOF> yellowz: Have you manually installed the nvidia driver?
[04:18] <hwilde> !nvidia | yellowz
[04:19] <yellowz> RAOF: no i used the update manager
[04:19] <RAOF> hwilde: How sure are you that that's relevent for Intrepid?
[04:19] <hwilde> the bot knows all
[04:19] <Jordan_U> It seems that my madwifi modules aren't being unloaded like they should be before suspend
[04:19] <LSD|Ninja> madwifi is back?!?!
[04:19] <RAOF> hwilde: It does, but I don't think that the page it links to is relevant :)
[04:19] <DanaG> dkms somedimes doesn
[04:19] <DanaG> er
[04:19] <DanaG> dkms sometimes doesn't run in time, for me.
[04:19] <RAOF> yellowz: I'd suggest running "sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-177".
[04:20] <DanaG> Depends on the video ard.
[04:20] <DanaG> card.
[04:20] <DanaG> Is there any reason to have both 173 and 177
[04:20] <DanaG> >
[04:20] <RAOF> He's got a nv5x, you can tell from the log :)
[04:20] <yellowz> i have 8800 gtx 640mb
[04:20] <Jordan_U> LSD|Ninja: What do you mean "back" ?
[04:20] <RAOF> DanaG: Yes.  177 supports more cards, I believe.
[04:20] <yellowz> RAOF: so u want me to use that?
[04:20] <DanaG> Does it not supersede 173?
[04:21] <RAOF> yellowz: Yes.  You should run "sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-177".
[04:21] <yellowz> k 1 sec
[04:21] <LSD|Ninja> Jordan_U: It wasn't in Intrepid to begin with, ath5k was inflicted on us instead
[04:21] <RAOF> DanaG: Perhaps, I forget.
[04:21] <Jordan_U> LSD|Ninja: The only reason it wasn't working before ( AFIK ) was bug 254034
[04:22] <yellowz> installing
[04:22] <Jordan_U> LSD|Ninja: ath5k wasn't working for me, so I ran "sudo lrm-manager" and boom, working wireless :)
[04:22] <DanaG> Aah, that'd be it.
[04:22] <DanaG> The 'volatile' issue.
[04:22] <yellowz> iys telling me that i had 173
[04:22] <DanaG> Oh yeah, /me wonders: how does a Radeon HD3650 compare to a GeForce Go 7600?
[04:23] <hwilde> depends if you like ati or nvidia
[04:23] <yellowz> RAOF: restart?
[04:23] <DanaG> I just mean in terms of performance.
[04:23] <RAOF> yellowz: Actually, shouldn't be necessary.
[04:23] <yellowz> im still in the console mode
[04:23] <yellowz> do i need to run a command maybe?
[04:24] <DanaG> sudo invoke-rc.d dkms_autoinstaller stop
[04:24] <yellowz> w\e im restarting
[04:24] <DanaG> sudo invoke-rc.d dkms_autoinstaller start
[04:25] <yellowz> well hig-five for RAOF ;]
[04:26] <yellowz> high* lol
[04:26] <yellowz> well is there any other bugs in this alpha release?
[04:26] <DanaG> Well, my gnome-session breaks if I update to a newer version, for some reason.
[04:26] <DanaG> s/ a / the /
[04:27] <yellowz> well im not actually using the normal ubuntu distor, im trying out ubuntustudio
[04:27] <yellowz> already sent my first crash error
 well is there any other bugs in this alpha release?
[04:34] <hwilde> lol
[04:34] <hwilde> !topic
[04:34] <yellowz> lol well i found a good bug...banshee sources are in universe!
[04:34] <yellowz> that is good rite?
[04:35] <Hobbsee> no
[04:36] <RAOF> They're meant to be in Universe.
[04:36] <RAOF> You might notice that the binaries are there, too :)
[04:36] <yellowz> well no sound though
[04:36]  * DanaG is irked at the broken uvesafb.
[04:37] <yellowz> hm well alsamixer has the wrong card set-up...how come asoundconfg doesnt work?
[04:38] <yellowz> i need to change the default card..i remember it was 'asoundconfg set-default-card blah' in hardy
[04:38] <yellowz> what has it been changed to?
[04:39] <yellowz> maybe not..lol im so stupid
[04:39] <Hobbsee> yellowz: are you *sure* you want to run a development release?
[04:39] <yellowz> very
[04:40]  * Hobbsee notes that hand-holding help usually isn't given for development releases, as people are actually busy testing and fixing things.
[04:40] <DanaG> That reminds me... I need to file a bug on something (in Hardy, actually).
[04:46] <hwilde> yellowz, man asoundconf
[04:46] <DanaG> argh, how do you find bugs with specified package?
[04:46] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[04:48] <hwilde> DanaG, google     <packagename>  site:bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[04:48] <hwilde> !google
[04:48] <hwilde> lol
[04:48] <DanaG> It turns out you have to go through https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[04:48] <DanaG> .... you can't get to packages specifically from "bugs.launchpad.net"
[04:49] <hwilde> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/
[04:49] <hwilde> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/packagenamehere/
[04:50] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/guidance-backends/
[04:50] <DanaG> !info guidance-backends
[04:50] <DanaG> odd that it's installed on non-kde.
[05:26] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/257809
[05:51] <DanaG> Isn't that a lovely feature?
[05:54] <DanaG> Agh, I wish the new laptops would be available NOW (or at least some time this month).... or at the very least, I wish I knew when (to the week) they'll be available.
[05:54] <scyrma> new laptops?
[05:54] <yuriy> DanaG: guidance-backends is used for displayconfig-gtk
[05:56] <DanaG> er, "the" would be definitive ... but I typed it in the wrong channel.
[05:57] <DanaG> New HP EliteBook models.  The 15" ones.
[05:57] <DanaG> If there's one thing more annoying than waiting a month for a product release date.... it is this: waiting for a product release MONTH.
[05:59] <DanaG> as in, "Available in September"
[06:09] <scyrma> nice one..
[06:10] <scyrma> suse certified, will run ubuntu, eh.. :)
[06:20] <DanaG> Plus, with the whole shpiel of defective nvidia chips (along with all the issues I've had with nvidia), I'll be glad to go to ATI.
[06:22] <DanaG> s/shpiel/snafu/  (or debacle.  or whatever you want to call it.)
[06:30] <DanaG> HP also likes giving kernel.org new servers.  Look at the news on kernel.org home page.
[06:35] <Fredd> is this just happening to me or does the ¨shut down¨ and the ¨restart¨ buttons dont work?
[06:35] <LSD|Ninja> That functionality was still broken last I checked
[06:36] <Fredd> so i need to use ¨shutdown¨ and  ¨reboot¨ as root to do does things?
[06:36] <LSD|Ninja> They work from GDM, just not from within gnome (they just log you out back to GDM)
[06:37] <Fredd> hm i have also got another problem while trying to write ´ ¨ and ^
[06:37] <Fredd> i have to press the keys twice to get those working for some reason
[06:50] <Fredd> anybody?
[06:52] <Fredd> its so annoying i could like write ⁶
[06:52] <Fredd> wtf is that
[06:53] <Fredd> u guys do see that rite?
[06:53] <RAOF> That appears to be a superscript 6
[06:53] <RAOF> Cool.
[06:53] <RAOF> ⁶
[06:53] <RAOF> ¹
[06:53] <RAOF> Wicked.
[06:53] <Fredd> when i press ctrl+6 lol
[06:53] <Fredd> but my problem is when pressing shift and 6,´ or just ´
[06:54] <Fredd> i have to press the buttons twice to get them working...is this keyboard layout issue or interpid?
[06:54] <RAOF> I suspect that your compose key is somewhere unexpected.
[06:54] <Fredd> how do i fix this then?
[06:55] <RAOF> You sæ, hitting the ménü button eats the néxt keypress.
[06:55] <RAOF> Alløwing people to do çrazy things with punctuation.
[06:56] <RAOF> You probably want to look in System->Preferences->Keyboard
[06:56] <Fredd> i been looking in there for a while
[06:56] <Fredd> cant find anything related i guess
[06:56] <Fredd> other than layouts -> layout options
[06:56] <Fredd> which i just dont understand
[06:56] <RAOF> Layouts->Layout options->Compose key position?
[06:57] <Fredd> and then what? everything is un-selected in there fort me
[06:57] <Fredd> for*
[06:57] <RAOF> Then perhaps file a bug :)
[06:58] <RAOF> So, pressing shift+6 doesn't get you ^?
[06:58] <Fredd> no it doesnt but pressing shit-6-6 gets me ^
[06:58] <Fredd> shift*
[06:58] <Fredd> oops lol sry
[06:59] <Fredd> and pressing ´ twice gets me ´ and pressing shift-´-´ gets me ¨
[07:04] <RAOF> It seems that shift may be playing 'compose' for you.  Alternatively, you may be using a keyboard layout with deadkeys, but I don't think that'll be happening in Intrepid now.
[07:05] <Fredd> so what would u do if u were me...
[07:06] <Fredd> wait my layout that is selected has (dead keys) in it
[07:06] <Fredd> which is USA international (with dead keys)
[07:06] <Fredd> could that be the problem?
[07:06] <RAOF> Yes.
[07:07] <RAOF> That is the problem.
[07:07] <RAOF> If you're running a current Intrepid system, you probably want the "evdev" thingy
[07:07] <Fredd> what layout should i be oooon then?
[07:07] <RAOF> "Evdev-managed keyboard" is what I'm using, and I believe that's what should be used.  As long as you're up-to-date.
[07:07] <Fredd> i dont see it under us
[07:08] <RAOF> It isn't
[07:08] <Fredd> where at?
[07:08] <RAOF> Sorry.  That should be the keyboard _model_.
[07:08] <Fredd> oh mine is on my actual model
[07:08] <Fredd> is that a problem too?
[07:09] <RAOF> Gah, sorry.  I'm confusing you and myself :)
[07:09] <Fredd> ok i restore everything to defaults
[07:09] <RAOF> You won't need to change the model (although I'm not sure why it's not evdev).
[07:09] <Fredd> and my keyboard is on the evdev thingy
[07:10] <RAOF> Selecting any keyboard layout variant that _doesn't_ contain "dead keys" should work.
[07:10]  * RAOF suggests dvorak!
[07:10] <Fredd> wow im so stupid
[07:10] <Fredd> now it works lol
[07:11] <Fredd> man this is too good to be true....i could play mkv files, play flash and my keyboard is working so as my video card...i just hope this lasts for more than a week
[07:24] <Fredd> nvm lol audio is flash just stopped working
[07:38] <DanaG> Oh yeah, how do you use Compose?
[07:38] <DanaG> I've used AltGr, but never Compose.
[07:39] <RAOF> You go <menu>"o to type ö
[07:43] <Fredd> RAOF: lol i got the mkv to work but now the audio in firefox flash videos stopped working? could it be one of the gstreamer packages i installed is causing the problems? or is there anything better than "flashplugin-nonfree"
[07:43] <DanaG> I do that with AltGr.
[07:46] <RAOF> DanaG: THen AltGr is probably your compose key.
[07:46] <DanaG> Not quite.
[07:46] <DanaG> AltGr does these directly: äéëéþëðüfúíüþgëe
[07:46] <DanaG> and 'þ'
[07:46] <RAOF> Cool.
[07:47] <RAOF> It'd be your 3rd level chooser then?
[07:47] <RAOF> Fredd: The audio is probably flash and pulseaudio fighting over your ALSA device.
[07:47] <Fredd> how do i fix it?
[07:47] <Fredd> remove pulseaudio?
[07:48] <crdlb> remove flash
[07:48] <RAOF> Probably not a winner there :)
[07:48] <RAOF> Install libflashsupport.
[07:48]  * crdlb runs
[07:48] <RAOF> And watch flash crash!
[07:48] <Fredd> wait why did he say remove flash?
[07:48] <RAOF> The take-home message here: Flash sucks.
[07:48] <RAOF> You could install either swfdec-mozilla or gnash; they'll play nicely with pulseaudio.
[07:49] <Fredd> im using alsa though
[07:49] <RAOF> None of your gnome apps are, I'll wager.
[07:49] <Fredd> and i dont want pulseaudio but if i try to remove it it will like remove alot of other packages
[07:49] <RAOF> At least, not directly.
[07:55] <DanaG> There's only one thing I hate worse than the nvidia (windows and linux, both!) drivers:
[07:55] <DanaG> Flash.
[07:55] <DanaG> Crashitty crash crash..... crash.....
[07:55] <DanaG> ... and crash again.
[07:55] <Fredd> well u should tell that to everybody who uses
[07:55] <DanaG> And oh, apparently 10 < 8.
[07:58] <Fredd> so there is no way to make the flashplugin-nonfree to work with alsa?
[07:59] <DanaG> Argh, compose does not work for me.
[07:59] <DanaG> asoundconf set-pulseaudio
[07:59] <DanaG> but be prepared for Flash to crash, crash, crash, crash, crash, crash, crash, crash, crash, crash, crash, crash, crash, crash, crash, crash, crash, crash, crash, crash, crash, crash,
[07:59] <Fredd> that will?
[07:59] <DanaG> Oh wait, it does that already in Flash 10 anyway.
[08:00] <DanaG> bug 192888
[08:00] <DanaG> Read from the bottom upwards, perhaps.
[08:00] <DanaG> Anyway, I'm going off to bed now.  Good night.
[08:00] <DanaG> Thu Aug 14 00:00:23 PDT 2008
[08:00] <Fredd> libflashsupport is for pulseaudio and im using A L S A
[08:00] <DanaG> Well, Flash opens the device in blocking mode.
[08:00] <DanaG> .. or so it seems.
[08:01] <Fredd> you talk too much.
[08:01] <Fredd> could of just gave me an answer and thats it.
[08:08] <gnomefreak> Fredd: libflashsupport has nothing to do with pulse audio
[08:08] <Fredd> still no audio with flash
[08:09] <Fredd> thats what the package describtion says..
[08:09] <gnomefreak> Fredd: make sure you are using pulse audio
[08:09] <Fredd> im not using pulseaudio though
[08:09] <Fredd> because im using alsa which works fine for me.
[08:09] <gnomefreak> Fredd: pa uses alsa
[08:09] <Fredd> ...
[08:10] <Fredd> if pulseaudio is freaking amazing then why does the ubuntu team leave alsa?
[08:10] <gnomefreak> pulse audio uses alsa
[08:10] <RAOF> Fredd: "Alsa works fine for me" is a fine sentiment.  On the other hand, it _doesn't_ work for you, since you haven't got sound in flash :)
[08:10] <Fredd> fine fine fine
[08:10] <Fredd> i will use pulseadio
[08:11] <RAOF> I, personally, haven't had any problems with sound in flash.  So it's harder to help others :)
[08:11]  * gnomefreak doesnt care either way what you use but the sound problem was fixed in pulse audio. libflash support causes crashes and we are thinking of removing it from intrepid
[08:12] <Fredd> because u r using pulseaudio?
[08:12] <gnomefreak> Fredd: you should be using pulse audio by default in INtrepid
[08:12] <gnomefreak> but only for ubuntu not kubuntu or xubuntu
[08:14] <Fredd> ok just changed to pulseaudio in "system -> prefs -> sound" and now i cant hear anything in banshee
[08:14] <gnomefreak> Fredd: here is info on PA and how to set it or check if you are using it.
[08:14] <gnomefreak> !pulseaudio
[08:17] <Fredd> well i cant seem to change my own privileges
[08:31] <Fredd> well i followed the instructions and everything..now i have the system sound working with pulseaudio but not  a single application is giving me sound
[08:31] <Fredd> totem, banshee, and flash it self is not working neither
[08:32] <Fredd> or do i need a restart? because i followed the instructions and it said i need to restart the session
[08:32] <Fredd> nothing about restarting the machine
[08:33] <Fredd> RAOF: ?
[08:40] <Fredd> im going to avoide seeing a big red screen with blue dots everywhere on start up but yeah sound is still not working
[08:40] <BUGabundo_work> humm
[08:40] <BUGabundo_work> on ibex Fredd
[08:41] <Fredd> yezir
[08:41] <Fredd> and current getting the hell rid of pulseaudio configs
[08:41] <BUGabundo_work> have all those strange kernel modules instaled?
[08:41] <BUGabundo_work> yeah, PA still sucks
[08:41] <Fredd> i believe so
[08:42] <BUGabundo_work> did It work on hardy?
[08:44] <Fredd> neva
[08:44] <Fredd> alsa worked fine on hardy but even better because i was able to hear flash videos
[08:50] <Fredd> i just love how ubuntu is so freaking random
[08:50] <Fredd> i removed most of the pulseaudio packages and now flahs is working
[08:52] <Fredd> wow and mkv 5.1 channels are all working
[08:52] <Fredd> gotta write this down 1:52:14 everythign is working
[10:11] <DanaG> Ugh, I hate nvidia.
[10:12] <DanaG> I switched to metacity to save power while leaving the laptop on overnight, and then I tried to start compiz again.
[10:12] <DanaG> .... and X crashed.
[10:13] <RAOF> Wooo!
[10:13]  * RAOF hands DanaG !nouveau
[10:17] <DanaG> Can't do compiz with it.
[10:17] <DanaG> And I'm going to be going ATI... as soon as that damn laptop is released.
[10:18] <DanaG> Oh yeah, and if you're wondering why "overnight" was so short... it's because I couldn't fall asleep.  I'll try again a bit later.
[10:21] <DanaG> Oh yeah, why does Intrepid support ext4?  If I try to mount as ext4, I get "unknown filesystem type" (not the exact string).
[10:21] <DanaG> same for ext4dev.
[10:22] <RAOF> No, we don't currently build ext4.
[10:22] <RAOF> You can see the mailinglist for details; basically, still unstable, and upstream recommends applying patches if you're going to run it.
[10:23] <DanaG> Aah.
[10:23] <DanaG> Well, I'm fine with "deciding not to use it" -- if it were just "ignoring" it, I'd be peeved.
[10:47] <gnumm> can i upgrade from kubuntu hardy kde3 to kubuntu intrepid kde4 in oktober? or should i reinstall?
[11:23] <duncan_busy> hiredgoon, I just wanted to make sure you're aware that (at least until my last update yesterday) OpenOffice.org is still on version 2.4. Shouldn't 3.0 get some testing soon? Anyway, that was just an observation, no reply needed.
[11:53] <joaopinto> will Intrepid ship OO 3 ?
[11:53] <RAOF> As yet undecided.
[11:54] <joaopinto> isn't a bit late for such decisions :P ?
[11:54] <RAOF> Not really.
[11:55] <joaopinto> 2 months from the release date, I don't see how those will be sufficient to test OO3
[11:55] <RAOF> Well, it wouldn't be, if OOo 3 wasn't already being tested.
[11:56] <joaopinto> I mean by Ubuntu Dev users :P
[11:57] <RAOF> Most testing is done in Beta, anyway.
[12:38] <duncan_busy> OOo 3.0 has worked fine for me so far in Hardy. But I haven't used it as default.
[13:46] <Hondo_Kitsune> Hello, I'd like to upgrade my 8.04 to 8.10 alpha, how can I go about this and what is guarenteed to stop working?
[13:47] <ikonia> Hondo_Kitsune: nothing is guarenteed
[13:47] <ikonia> Hondo_Kitsune: it's a development release
[13:47] <Hondo_Kitsune> ikonia: true, with it being an alpha
[13:47] <ikonia> Hondo_Kitsune: things will break all the time while it's in development
[13:47] <Hondo_Kitsune> ikonia: I would still like to upgrade to it.
[13:47] <ikonia> ok, go for it
[13:47] <virtualroadside> Hondo_Kitsune: you're guaranteed to catch a cold unless you hold your nose while upgrading
[13:47] <Hondo_Kitsune> ikonia: How do i go about it?
[13:48] <Hondo_Kitsune> virtualroadside: so the upgrader is broken then?
[13:48] <virtualroadside> :p
[13:48] <virtualroadside> no, it works
[13:48] <Hondo_Kitsune> :P
[13:48] <ikonia> Hondo_Kitsune: you upgrade the same as any other upgrade
[13:48] <ikonia> !upgrade > Hondo_Kitsune
[13:49] <Hondo_Kitsune> I mean to the alpha, the site does not reference it.
[13:49] <Hondo_Kitsune> I think I'd need a new repository.
[13:50]  * Hobbsee notes that if you have to ask, you probably shouldn't be running it...
[13:51] <Hondo_Kitsune> Hobbsee: Point taken
[13:51] <Hondo_Kitsune> gotta go, thanks anyway
[13:51] <virtualroadside> heh
[15:16] <rbrunhuber> My update always hangs on "generating Initramfs". Anyone else seeing this behaviour?
[15:16] <IdleOne> rbrunhuber, hangs for how long?
[15:17] <rbrunhuber> IdleOne: A few minutes now.
[15:18] <IdleOne> I usually get a 3 to 5 seconds
[15:18] <rbrunhuber> IdleOne: I know thats taking some time, I've seen this often before, but it took never this long. And I'm on a quite fast machine C2D 7600
[15:24] <rbrunhuber> Ok still hanging on initramfs. So I will kill it.
[17:34] <Ziroday> In intrepid does the desktop installer do encrypted partitions or still only the alternate installer?
[17:50] <lavish> hi all
[17:51] <lavish> - I have a backup - anyway, is it possible to downgrade from 8.10 to 8.04?
[18:48] <s0u][ight> alpha 4 is out?
[18:48] <geser> according to the topic in #ubuntu-devel, yes
[18:48] <s0u][ight> !download
[18:49] <s0u][ight> !i need the link to alpha4
[18:49] <s0u][ight> !why did your developers not give you some ai
[18:49] <s0u][ight> !alpha
[18:50] <s0u][ight> where can i obtain the live cd of alpha 4
[18:51] <Flannel> s0u][ight: The future
[18:51] <s0u][ight> oops meaning the iso image
[18:52] <Flannel> s0u][ight: Yes, I know.  Its not out.
[18:53] <s0u][ight> ... http://tinyshell.be/aircrackng/forum/index.php?topic=3954.45 the last but one post check it
[18:55] <Flannel> s0u][ight: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/alpha-4/
[18:56] <s0u][ight> Flannel: why did you not give me the link in the first place :P
[18:56] <Flannel> s0u][ight: Because all of the other information indicates it not out yet
[18:57] <s0u][ight> its funny: i know it is out but dunno the link
[18:57] <s0u][ight> you dunno if it is out but know the link :D
[18:57] <s0u][ight> brb
[19:24] <becky> upgraded my t61p to the alpha and my video driver got hosed. if I do dpkg-reconfigure -a when I get to the video driver part it doesn't display right and I can select the nvidia driver and it works and my screen resolution display's properly but when i click to keep the settings they go right back... :(
[19:26] <johninlex> hello all
[19:27] <becky> what do I do to reconfigure the video drivers only?
[19:34] <becky> anyone?
[19:39] <igormorgado> hi there.. is there any know bugs in intrepid about X wrong key mappings? because after upgrade to intrepid my numeric keyboard, arrow keys and control keys (home. end. del, up, down) stopped to work properly. xev do not return the right mappings to these keys (example when I press arrow up it returns prt scr ). any tips?
[19:40] <igormorgado> if you need more info just ask me.
[19:50] <johninlex>  does anyone know what Ubuntu uses for a trivial file transfer protocol???
[19:51] <becky> upgraded my t61p to the alpha and my video driver got hosed. if I do dpkg-reconfigure -a when I get to the video driver part it doesn't display right and I can select the nvidia driver and it works and my screen resolution display's properly but when i click to keep the settings they go right back... :(
[19:51] <Unksi> johninlex: i use gftp
[19:52] <johninlex> ok sudo apt-get install gftp
[19:52] <becky> johninlex: wrong channel anyway stick to the ubuntu channel
[19:52] <johninlex> I am using Ibex
[19:53] <johninlex> that is the only reason I am in here.
[19:53] <becky> but it's not an ibex question
[19:53] <becky> sudo apt-cache search tftp you'll find a lot
[19:53] <johninlex> Thank you Becky and Unksi
[19:53] <Unksi> yw
[19:54] <becky> np\
[19:54] <Blinkiz> Can't get nvidia drivers to work with intrepid. They simply don't load. I have a geforce FX 5200 AGP card. It should be the nvidia-gtx-173 driver
[19:55] <becky> Blinkiz: join the club
[19:56] <becky> i'm sitting without video right now :(
[19:56] <becky> t61p with 8 series card
[19:56] <becky> Blinkiz: I installed envyng and it said it wasn't compatible
[19:57] <Blinkiz> becky: yeah, I also installed directly from repository.
[19:57] <zniavre> you should try the .run of nvidia
[19:57] <Blinkiz> becky: And I tried to install driver from nvidias homepage.
[19:57] <becky> Blinkiz: this sucks I kind of need my laptop back :(
[19:58] <Blinkiz> becky: Well, you running intrepid alpha so... :P
[19:59] <becky> Blinkiz: yeah I know i installed it on my other lapton (intel) and no issue so I stupidly made the leap on my main laptop...
[20:04] <s0u][ight> what are the changes between alpha 3 and 4?
[20:05] <Blinkiz> s0u][ight: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/alpha4
[20:06] <Blinkiz> s0u][ight: I guess...
[20:06] <s0u][ight> ty :D
[20:06] <becky> Blinkiz: let me know if you figure it out will ya?
[20:07] <Blinkiz> becky: k
[20:11] <s0u][ight> hmmm some of the known bugs are easily fixed
[20:12] <s0u][ight> why didnt they got fixed?
[20:12] <becky> Blinkiz: what version of the drivers are you using?
[20:13] <Blinkiz> Tried 173.14.12
[20:16] <joaopinto> gnome-terminal is crashing when selecting a section is of text, is anyone aware of a record for this bug ?
[20:16] <joaopinto> erm, a section of text
[20:22] <jpds> !bugs | joaopinto - try searching Launchpad for one.
[20:23] <becky> woot! fixed it Blinkiz
[20:23] <becky> !
[20:23] <joaopinto> jpds, erm, I was hoping someone else experienced it and report :P
[20:23] <joaopinto> it's not reported, it's time to gdb
[20:32] <svu> anyone having trouble with libtool on intrepid?
[20:32] <svu> (a lot of "command not found" errors)
[20:33] <G_009> apport is useless, if every time one needs to send the report from /var/crash manually for a more complete bug report
[20:35] <G_009> am tired of getting "where is the stacktrace?"
[20:35] <Blinkiz> becky: what? Are you using nvidia now? Have tried half hour now to get it to work...
[20:36] <becky> Blinkiz: no temporary fix was to change to "nv" driver... but I can atleast see something now!
[20:38] <Blinkiz> becky: oh, that simple. Gonna try it
[20:47] <becky> Blinkiz: got it using nvidia again. I got back in after installing nvidia-glx-173 then downloaded driver from nvidia website and compiled and then works :) :) good luck
[20:47] <Blinkiz> oki
[20:55] <doggymenz> fix so you can shutdown and restart ubuntu, it no work
[20:55] <doggymenz> also fix so audio works in rhythmbox, i have to kill pulseaudio to get it work
[20:57] <komputes> Anyone know how to fix audio On Intrpid when using a Intel 82801H Audio Controller?
[20:58] <doggymenz> yeah, "killall pulseaudio"
[20:58] <doggymenz> works for me
[21:06] <DanaG> Need a USB 2.0+Firewire+GbE card all in one?  That's a big funny.
[21:06] <DanaG> http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.system-talks.co.jp/product/sgc-52ufg2.htm&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DSGC-52UFG2%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial%26hs%3Dzp3
[21:08] <doggymenz> GIGAbit respond! Network is fast!
[21:08] <doggymenz> :D
[21:08] <doggymenz> nice charts too "FAST!!"
[21:09] <doggymenz> "In order to suppress fever, heat sink was implemented."
[21:13] <DanaG> I just got a random shutoff... due to empty battery.
[21:13] <DanaG> ... and Ubuntu seemed to think I was on AC, so I didn't know I was on battery.
[21:25] <doggymenz> :(
[21:25] <Fredd> libflashsupport does have issues but no crashes so far..but im getting random blank windows poped up while playing any flash video
[21:25] <Fredd> !bugs
[21:25] <doggymenz> i've noticed my flash sometimes have white pixels on em
[21:26] <Fredd> well i has seen that too but only when i fast forward
[21:27] <G_009> seen it too while video is playing
[21:32] <Fredd> what is the applet name to show the desktops in the gnome panel?
[21:32] <doggymenz> sometimes when i skip in the video, then flash get laggy or wont resume immediatly
[21:32] <G_009> even though i got the nvidia drivers in use they are not enabled. i guess that means am using vesa
[21:32] <doggymenz> Fredd, "Show Desktop"
[21:32] <Fredd> not that...the ones that lets u switch between desktops
[21:33] <Fredd> like desktop 1, 2, 3..etc
[21:33] <Fredd> because i dont have it for some reason
[21:33] <G_009> try desktop switcher
[21:34] <Fredd> well its not in the list of "add to panel"
[21:42] <slavecoder250> linux is broken!
[21:50] <cskmax> Fredd: "Workspace Switcher"
[21:50] <DanaG> Ooh: USB 2.0 and GbE in one Cardbus card.
[21:50] <DanaG> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.system-talks.co.jp/product/sgc-x2ug.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3DSGC-52UFG2%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial%26hs%3Dzp3&usg=ALkJrhigu-EJ1MVcaLIMNHrehFqnDhGX2A
[22:20] <Oli```> Okay I'm bored of life and I'm considering moving from Hardy to Intrepid. How broken is it?
[22:24] <DistroJockey> Oli```, doesn't sound that broken to me.


[10:59] <leopartux> where is the folder of screensaver files
[10:59] <johny> but my ATi card is really difficult to install
[10:59] <johny> leopartux: KDE or GNOME?
[10:59] <BluesKaj> Eruantalon, smb4k and komba2 , will setup samba
[11:00] <leopartux> kde
[11:00] <OlgaB> back
[11:00] <leopartux> i am using kubuntu
[11:01] <johny> leopartux: try /usr/share/appInk/System/ScreenSavers
[11:03] <manu_> hi
[11:03] <Eruantalon> BluesKaj: smb4k seems to only be an smb browser. There is nothing for setting up the serve
[11:03] <alex_> so did anyone have any luck compiling the ipw3945 drivers?
[11:03] <manu_> someone can help me with this simple script?  it doesnt work -> bad substitution
[11:03] <manu_> im creating a superkaramba theme
[11:03] <manu_> http://paste.debian.net/21381
[11:04] <manu_> i'm a very noob in shell scripting
[11:04] <manu_> :/
[11:04] <OlgaB> brb
[11:09] <leopartux> johny thanks  i have just read your message. i was trying to find it.
[11:09] <manu_> leopartux: can you help me plz?
[11:11] <leopartux> i dont think so because i have just installed kubuntu
[11:11] <leopartux> i am trying to learn
[11:13] <alex_> so no one with intel pro 3945 here?
[11:13] <manu_> alex_: can you help plz?
[11:13] <manu_> dont know aht in the script is wrong
[11:13] <manu_> its in the line with echo
[11:13] <manu_> :(
[11:14] <underdog5004> alex_, hey, sorry about bailing...
[11:14] <underdog5004> alex_, no joy?
[11:14] <alex_> underdog5004: well, it didn't work
[11:14] <underdog5004> bummer.
[11:14] <alex_> underdog5004: the network manager didn't solve that
[11:15] <underdog5004> alex_, bummer...I'm out of ideas...sorry
[11:15] <alex_> manu_: sorry, I don't know what's wrong with that script
[11:15] <alex_> underdog5004: I wish the drivers would just compile :(
[11:15] <alex_> :'(
[11:15] <underdog5004> lol, are you getting errors?
[11:16] <manu_> alex_ if you copy the lines and create a .sh file my bash says bad substitution in the echo line
[11:16] <manu_> if i put the first line into console and press enter and then echo and press enter it works
[11:16] <manu_> there should be 1:2 in the output
[11:16] <alex_> manu_: I am not too good with scripting, so I can't help sorry
[11:16] <manu_> and other people sayed it works manually
[11:16] <manu_> but that damn script not
[11:17] <underdog5004> manu_, did you prefix the .sh with #!/bin/bash
[11:17] <underdog5004> or is it the other way around?
[11:17] <leopartux> there are only 2 languages how can i add more languages
[11:18] <underdog5004> manu_, in the beginning of the script, first line, it should say, #!/bin/bash
[11:18] <underdog5004> manchicken|away, or !#/bin/bash...can't remember
[11:19] <manu_> underdog5004: http://paste.debian.net/21381
[11:19] <manu_> like this
[11:19] <underdog5004> manu_, , or !#/bin/bash...can't remember
[11:19] <underdog5004> uh...h/o
[11:19] <manu_> :/ error in the echo line
[11:20] <underdog5004> manu
[11:20] <manu_> underdog5004:
[11:20] <underdog5004> uh...I don't know much about bash scripting...sorry...can't help you...
[11:21] <manu_> underdog5004: do you know someone
[11:21] <underdog5004> manu_, maybe genii, but he's not here...
[11:21] <manu_> in germany its 11:21pm i want to go to bed but i want to finish this script and its only an error beetween this two lines
[11:22] <underdog5004> manu_, maybe the semi-colon after the http:// line
[11:22] <manu_> underdog5004: m
[11:22] <underdog5004> that's all I can see...seems like
[11:23] <underdog5004> ; is only for C and C++...I'm probably wrong, though
[11:23] <dwidmann> You're wrong
[11:23] <underdog5004> I knew it...darn!
[11:23] <manu_> dwidmann:  me?
[11:23] <dwidmann> No, underdog5004
[11:23] <manu_> can you help? :)
[11:23] <manu_> it would be great
[11:24] <Red_Herring> go bears.
[11:24] <dwidmann> perhaps, I'm looking at it, the whole german thing is throwing me off a bit though
[11:24] <underdog5004> manu_, what's the script supposed to do?
[11:24] <dwidmann> the only thing I'm wondering about at the moment, is the colons in the echo line
[11:25] <manu_> underdog5004: you know perhaps the live ticker of your favorite soccer team
[11:25] <underdog5004> gotcha
[11:25] <manu_> the script gets the html file of my favorite team where the current goals are shown and ctaches it
[11:26] <manu_> my aim is to biuld it in a superkaramba theme
[11:26] <manu_> dwidmann: why?
[11:26] <dwidmann> manu_ try this: http://paste.debian.net/21383
[11:26] <manu_> i found this commands in the net and changed them to match my wishes
[11:27] <narcosis> hey, how do i install drivers for my soundblaster x-fi sound card?
[11:27] <dwidmann> narcosis: short story is, you don't, IIRC
[11:27] <crimsun> and you won't.
[11:27] <crimsun> not for a good. long. while.
[11:27] <narcosis> oh.
[11:27] <narcosis> so uh
[11:28] <narcosis> do i have to use onboard sound?
[11:28] <johny> narcosis: try to go on the producer's webpage and find some info there
[11:28] <dwidmann> narcosis: that or buy yourself a supported sound card
[11:29] <narcosis> k thanks
[11:29] <manu_> dwidmann: now does it work but 33:3 says that i only want to geht the letters between letter 33 and letter 36
[11:29] <manu_> and that would be 2:1
[11:29] <narcosis> oh and also, i tried installing nvidia linux display drivers but it told me to turn off X
[11:29] <manu_> so i get 2:1
[11:29] <manu_> of the html file
[11:29] <narcosis> so i ran it in CLI
[11:29] <dwidmann> manu: hmmmmm
[11:30] <narcosis> and it says something about having no kernel
[11:30] <manu_> and this html tags dont look nice in superkaramba
[11:30] <manu_> manually it works
[11:30] <dwidmann> manu_: try tacking it on the 33:36 onto what I pasted a few minutes ago
[11:30] <manu_> dwidmann try this 2 lines manually and with shell script you see manually it works in script not
[11:30] <dwidmann> will it work?
[11:30] <manu_> only without 33:3
[11:31] <dwidmann> Hmm
[11:31] <manu_> dwidmann:  2:1	:33:3
[11:31] <manu_> no it adds it only
[11:32] <alex_> underdog5004: LOL, dude
[11:32] <underdog5004> alex_, huh?
[11:32] <alex_> underdog5004: the drivers come pre-installed with edgy.... ahahahahaahah
[11:32] <underdog5004> alex_, omfg!
[11:32] <alex_> underdog5004: wireless intel pro 3945abg
[11:32] <anonymeeee> !azureus
[11:32] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[11:32] <alex_> underdog5004: I can't beleive this, I couldn't find that info even in google
[11:32] <alex_> underdog5004: lol, all that was missing was the daemon... and that's all
[11:33] <alex_> underdog5004: sweet, wireless works now... woohoo
[11:33] <underdog5004> alex_, so it's working now!
[11:33] <underdog5004> yay!
[11:33] <underdog5004> alex_, doesn't it feel good knowing you _made_ your computer work the way you want it to?
[11:33] <alex_> haha, for future adventurers, let them know that the drivers are preinstalled on edgy
[11:33] <alex_> underdog5004: ohhh yeaaaaa
[11:33] <cgreer> Hello everyone!
[11:33] <alex_> underdog5004: especially in linux
[11:33] <alex_> :D
[11:33] <cgreer> yeah for ubuntu
[11:34] <dwidmann> I think I've figured it out .... hmm, one sec manu_
[11:34] <manu_> dwidmann: wow cool :)
[11:34] <JRH3K5> I've just done cp -R ~/* /media/hda4/.  Within ~/ are symbolic links to /media/hdc1 - is there a way to confirm that the contents of /media/hdc1 were copied to /media/hda4, and not just a symbolic link to /media/hdc1?
[11:35] <dwidmann> figured something out anyway
[11:35] <ssmasud__> any NS2 experts over here?
[11:36] <manu_> dwidmann: i'm excited
[11:36] <dwidmann> manu_: if only this would work better .. I'm failing at testing because it's failing to fetch the file
[11:37] <alex_> test
[11:37] <alex_> w00t
[11:37] <alex_> :(
[11:37] <alex_> test
[11:38] <manu_> dwidmann: which file?
[11:38] <underdog5004> yay
[11:38] <underdog5004> alex_ made it!
[11:38] <alex_> yep
[11:38] <dwidmann> manu_: the one it fetches with wget ... it's just sitting here on "connecting"
[11:38] <manu_> dwidmann: here it works
[11:38] <dwidmann> come to think of it manu_, I probably have that port blocked or something
[11:39] <alex_> underdog5004: haha, now I just need to write a program that takes over the world, and I am all set
[11:39] <manu_> dwidmann: hm... its just a internetsite
[11:39] <dwidmann> yep, that was it
[11:39] <manu_> put it in your browser and get it manually
[11:39] <underdog5004> step 1: get wireless working
[11:39] <underdog5004> step 2: ???
[11:39] <underdog5004> step 3: Profit!
[11:39] <ootinyoo> I downloaded ubuntu 6.10 and can't get my comp to boot it....any ideas
[11:40] <alex_> step 4: take over the world
[11:40] <jarn> I heard that amarok 1.4.5 is coming out today, does anyone know if that's true?
[11:40] <underdog5004> ootinyoo, did you burn the iso as an iso and not as a file?
[11:40] <dwidmann> manu: in the script, the port is specified, note the :81 in the URL
[11:40] <dwidmann> jarn: I don't know, why not check amarok.kde.org?
[11:41] <ootinyoo> not sure underdog...will have to look....but pretty sure as an iso
[11:41] <jarn> dwidmann: I did, it doesn't say anything.
[11:41] <underdog5004> ootinyoo, what did you use to burn it?
[11:41] <manu_> dwidmann: hm so you cant help me?
[11:41] <manu_> because of the port
[11:42] <manu_> i upload you the source of the site? so you can delete the part with wget?
[11:42] <alex_> how do I add the knetworkmanager to startup programs?
[11:42] <manu_> dwidmann: http://paste.debian.net/21385
[11:42] <alex_> where is it located?
[11:43] <dwidmann> manu: I'll be a few minutes
[11:43] <ootinyoo> under dog....you mean what kind of disk?  or program?
[11:43] <dwidmann> jarn: well, not like it'll hurt to wait, I'll check something for you though
[11:43] <alex_> ln -s knetworkmanager ~/.kde/Autostart/knetworkmanager.... let me guess that's not going to work is it?
[11:43] <alex_> I need the full path right?
[11:43] <narcosis> how do i use ./configure to install?
[11:44] <manu_> dwidmann: okay i will be only till 12 o clock, but then i have to get a bit of slepp
[11:44] <manu_> *sleep
[11:44] <manu_> its nice that you help me
[11:44] <alex_> ahhh, I think I foudn it, /usr/bin/knetworkmanager
[11:44] <underdog5004> ootinyoo, I prefer Alex Fienmans Isorecorder (google for it) to burn isos. If you are sure you burnt it correctly, go into your bios (you'll need to hit a certain key on boot, like F1, tab, delete) and make sure the boot order is correct. You want IDE/ATAPI cdrom drive to be ahead of Hard drive
[11:45] <dwidmann> manu_: and when will 12 be? It's only 5:46 here
[11:46] <dwidmann> manu_I've found the problem
[11:46] <underdog5004> randomly, kaffeine will refuse to play files that I access remotely from my server.
[11:46] <underdog5004> It says that xiine doesn't have the right plugin.
[11:46] <underdog5004> weird...
[11:46] <dwidmann> change 33:3 to 29:3
[11:47] <underdog5004> or rather, No plugin found to handle this resources
[11:47] <dwidmann> wait, that's not right either :\
[11:47] <dominic_> virtualbox anyone?
[11:47] <dwidmann> gah
[11:48] <dwidmann> and now it has the nerve to work
[11:48] <underdog5004> ride the split
[11:48] <dwidmann> manu_: KSC_TICKER="$(wget -A 'html' -O 'ksc_ticker.txt' http://ticker.ksc.de:81/ticker.html; cat ksc_ticker.txt | sed -n '14p')"  && echo ${KSC_TICKER:33:3}
[11:49] <dwidmann> exactly as is seems to work .... that was frustrating
[11:51] <manu_> dwidmann: here it doesnt work
[11:52] <manu_> what have you changed also? i try it in a *.sh data
[11:52] <manu_> dwidmann: in console it dows work
[11:52] <manu_> *does
[11:52] <dwidmann> I'm just running it in the shell for now ... or is this wrong .... oh, it is :\
[11:52] <dwidmann> one sec while I turn it into a script and try again
[11:53] <manu_> dwidmann: in my shell it runs also perfectly but not in a *.sh file
[11:53] <manu_> :/
[11:53] <tanlaan> hello everyone
[11:53] <dominic_> hallo tanlan
[11:54] <underdog5004> randomly, kaffeine will refuse to play files that I access remotely from my server.
[11:54] <underdog5004> or rather, No plugin found to handle this resources
[11:54] <ootinyoo> not sure underdog...will have to look....but pretty sure as an iso
[11:54] <underdog5004> It says that xiine doesn't have the right plugin.
[11:55] <johann> you have to mount your "remote files"
[11:55] <underdog5004> johann, they are mounted...
[11:55] <dwidmann> manu_: it seems to be working here, though i would like to quiet down wget, and it just doesn't seem to want to listen
[11:56] <gaytan> hola
[11:56] <LjL> !es
[11:56] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:56] <manu_> dows it really worh as abash script file?
[11:56] <tanlaan> I've just made my computer resemble windows vista, which makes it look pretty slick, but I was wondering if anyone knew of ways to change the splash screen, the shutdown splash screen *i think they are the same*, and if there is any way to change it, right after the log on screen there is a pop up showing that things like nautilus and etc. are loading
[11:56] <johann> underdog5004
[11:56] <ootinyoo> I put the DVD+RW  in and it says it is an ISO Image file
[11:56] <johann> underdog5004
[11:56] <johann> ?samba
[11:57] <dwidmann> manu_: I've got it
[11:57] <underdog5004> johann, yes?
[11:57] <underdog5004> They are mounted on my server
[11:57] <kelevra> hola
[11:57] <ootinyoo> The error says ----> Disk failure.
[11:58] <johann> ok, but you have to mount it on you computer where you want to play them
[11:58] <manu_> dwidmann: 8-) show me! :)
[11:58] <underdog5004> johann, but I've been able to listen to them w/o anything special...I just type in ftp://<IP_ADDRESS>/rtorrent/downloads in the playlist field in Kaffeine
[11:59] <dwidmann> manu_: http://paste.debian.net/21388
[11:59] <underdog5004> johann, then I'm able to browse my music and pull it over song by song
[12:00] <kelevra> hola hay alguien en casa
[12:00] <leopartux> i can not connect internet from konqueror bu i can connect from this program
[12:00] <underdog5004> !es
[12:00] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:00] <johann> hmm
[12:00] <johann> does kaffeine work with local files
[12:00] <K`zan> Hi folks, trying to copy a document with xsane, it apparently wants lpr but I have cups, anyone know how I can get this to print to cups?
[12:01] <underdog5004> leopartux, puedes ir al canal de #kubuntu-es como esta: /join #kubuntu-es
[12:01] <leopartux> i can not speak spanish
[12:01] <manu_> dwidmann: also get substition bug
[12:02] <kelevra> saoy nuevo
[12:02] <manu_> i go now
[12:02] <stdin> K`zan: lpr uses cups
[12:02] <manu_> but thank you very much
[12:02] <kelevra> soy nuevo
[12:02] <LjL> kelevra: escrive /join #ubuntu-es
[12:02] <dwidmann> manu_: that's weird, it worked flawlessly for me ...
[12:02] <h3sp4wn> lpr uses lpd (at least here)
[12:02] <h3sp4wn> nothing to do with cups
[12:02] <manu_> i come perhaps tomorrow
[12:02] <underdog5004> kele, puedes ir al canal de #kubuntu-es como esta: /join #kubuntu-es
[12:02] <manu_> bye
[12:02] <underdog5004> kelevra, , puedes ir al canal de #kubuntu-es como esta: /join #kubuntu-es
[12:02] <underdog5004> sorry about all that
[12:02] <stdin> mine prints to cups printer (remote)
[12:02] <dwidmann> bye manu_
[12:02] <K`zan> stdin: Hummm, I keep getting messages about "broken pipes" and as near as I can tell I have no lpr on the system ?!?
[12:04] <hatta> K`zan, use papers?
[12:04] <K`zan> LOL, Would be simpler to just drive down to kinkos :-).
[12:05] <Gunrun> aha
[12:05] <Gunrun> guys, I am having problems installing ubuntu on my G4 powerpc, is kubuntu likely to be any different?
[12:06] <Gunrun> this is the screen that greets me when I start ubuntu: http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8308/p1010507lz1.jpg
[12:06] <kirke> Hello, I have a question, how can I program C in linux?
[12:07] <underdog5004> !C++
[12:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <tanlaan> kirke: do you know how to program C on any other machine?
[12:07] <underdog5004> !C
[12:07] <Gunrun> http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Programming/Building_C_programs_on_Linux
[12:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <Gunrun> used google
[12:07] <wardemir> hi
[12:07] <Gunrun> now can you help with my question? lol
[12:07] <kirke> yes, in windows is just donwloading an IDE
[12:07] <kirke> an everything functions ok.
[12:08] <underdog5004> kirke, there are ides for linux as well
[12:08] <kirke> I download the KDevelop but does not works.
[12:08] <stdin> !C#
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c# - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <stdin> !code
[12:08] <underdog5004> !Anjuta
[12:08] <tanlaan> kirke: download essential-utils *is that right?*
[12:08] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[12:08] <ubotu> anjuta: A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3760 kB
[12:09] <stdin> ahh, that's the one
[12:09] <underdog5004> yay, I win!
[12:09] <Gunrun> :(
[12:09] <plugs> how do i access a shared windows folder on my network?
[12:09] <tanlaan> Gunrun: im sorry, but I can't help you with your problem
[12:09] <juano_> plugs: samba
[12:09] <tanlaan> Can anyone else help Gunrun?
[12:10] <underdog5004> Gunrun, sorry, but I've had no experience w/ Macs
[12:10] <juano_> plugs: check out /etc/samba/smb.conf
[12:10] <plugs> okay i'll look
[12:10] <tanlaan> Gunrun: had any luck in the #ubuntu channel?
[12:10] <Gunrun> well, does it look like (from my screenshot: http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8308/p1010507lz1.jpg ) it is a problem with GNOME or the *buntu kernel
[12:10] <Gunrun> been in there a while
[12:10] <juano_> plugs: you can change security = user to security = share  , or establish users with security = user , with username and pass
[12:11] <Gunrun> crap sorry, no idea what happened with that gap
[12:11] <plugs> once i've done that, how do i get there in konqueror?
[12:11] <underdog5004> Gunrun, whoa...that looks serious...
[12:11] <underdog5004> maybe kubuntu will be better...couldn't tell you why...
[12:11] <juano_> plugs: smb://winmachine
[12:11] <Gunrun> it looks like every module is failing
[12:12] <Gunrun> and if I run the install it basically goes aaaaa and references stuff in ect/usr or something
[12:12] <tanlaan> Gunrun: you may want to go download another ISO
[12:12] <plugs> yes!
[12:12] <Gunrun> ok
[12:12] <juano_> plugs: where winmachine is pc name, or you can do smb://pcsipnumber
[12:12] <Gunrun> I will get kubuntu anyway, because I like kde, and dislike brown
[12:12] <underdog5004> Gunrun, did you d/l it direct, or use bittorrent?
[12:12] <Gunrun> downloaded it direct
[12:12] <Gunrun> from the first eu mirror
[12:13] <tanlaan> Gunrun: haha ok, sounds good, it shouldnt take that long to download
[12:13] <devilsadvocate> Gunrun, thats the live cd?
[12:13] <Gunrun> yes
[12:13] <underdog5004> Gunrun, use bittorrent, automatic error checking
[12:13] <Gunrun> ah ok
[12:13] <Gunrun> bit torrent is slow thogh
[12:13] <Gunrun> my ISP caps it at 50kbps
[12:13] <plugs> i got it, thanks juano_ but now i tried copying things and i got access denied, time to sudo around till i get it
[12:13] <underdog5004> or, just get the md5 sum...
[12:13] <Gunrun> well, using the check on the CD it passes it
[12:13] <underdog5004> Gunrun, that sucks...is that just for BT?
[12:13] <Gunrun> yeah
[12:13] <juano_> plugs: u copying from ubuntu to winmachine ?
[12:13] <Gunrun> oh, and scanning for servers in Steam
[12:14] <underdog5004> Gunrun, might want to check out BT encryption...
[12:14] <plugs> yes
[12:14] <Gunrun> its not that, it is when I make lots of connections to lots of different IPs
[12:14] <juano_> plugs: and getting that error ?
[12:14] <underdog5004> ah
[12:14] <juano_> plugs: or from win to ubuntu ?
[12:14] <plugs> right.
[12:14] <Gunrun> how fast is shipit?
[12:14] <plugs> Ubuntu to windows, error.
[12:14] <underdog5004> Gunrun, month and a half to the US...
[12:14] <Gunrun> damn
[12:15] <devilsadvocate> does anyone here know anything about getting a program that can tunnel socks requests through a http proxy?
[12:15] <Gunrun> would be faster to grab it on dialup
[12:15] <juano_> plugs: in windows check that the permissions on folder are good
[12:15] <underdog5004> Gunrun, yep
[12:15] <juano_> plugs: right click the folder, sharing --> share on network , etc
[12:15] <Gunrun> what is the difference between the DVD of kubuntu and the CD?
[12:15] <plugs> ah i think youre right
[12:15] <plugs> i dont think it's allowed to change files.
[12:15] <Gunrun> I can only see torrents for the DVD
[12:15] <plugs> i'll try that