[02:00] <xubuntu566> installing xubuntu now.
[02:02] <GridCube> :D
[04:03] <Commonwealth> Can anyone tell me what a helper application is?
[04:15] <xubuntu287> Thought I'd mention that the 12.04 amd64 alternate cd seems to have a corrupt ATI driver package (ie I checked the md5 sum of the iso, and hit the failure twice on that package)
[04:16] <Unit193> Really? How did yu download?
[04:17] <xubuntu287> Direct from ubuntu mirror http
[04:17] <xubuntu287> Thought it was a bad download, but the md5 sums match
[04:18] <xubuntu287> I can try opening up the iso and looking for the package itself
[04:18] <Unit193> Alright, well you say the ISO md5 is good, but the package itself fails in the live/install? (To clearify)
[04:19] <Unit193> (I'd like to blame comcast, but.... ;) )
[04:19] <xubuntu287> ISO md5 is good
[04:19] <xubuntu287> unet boot in to usb, (two separate times)
[04:19] <Unit193> knome: Can you take a peek at that when you get back?  You said you have the disk.
[04:19] <xubuntu287> Install fails when installing packages, used the integrity checker and reports driver as bad
[04:20] <xubuntu287> (sorry reports a package that looked to be ati package as bad)
[04:20] <Unit193> xubuntu287: Well, I'd almost say reporting a bug would be a good idea, but not sure exactly what agenst.
[04:20] <Unit193> (I personally can't check this one)
[04:22] <xubuntu287> After I get my machine back up and running I'll run the integrity check again and write down the package name
[04:22] <xubuntu287> though if someone else has a VM handy it'd be good to get another check on it
[04:24] <xubuntu287> 19092536f4a74f1c260e8aabc90cdf0e f:\isos\xubuntu-12.04-alternate-amd64.iso
[04:24] <xubuntu287> 19092536f4a74f1c260e8aabc90cdf0e *xubuntu-12.04-alternate-amd64.iso
[04:25] <xubuntu287> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/12.04/release/xubuntu-12.04-alternate-amd64.iso
[04:28] <Unit193> Yep, and double checked from the mirror.
[04:31] <xubuntu287> ok I think the package was xserver-xorg-ati_6.14.99~git2011219.aacbd629-0ubuntu2_.deb
[04:33] <Unit193> You may be able to check with "debsums"
[04:33] <Unit193> !info debsums
[04:33] <Unit193> ubottu: Wake up
[04:34] <xubuntu287> ah http://markmail.org/thread/oubopssmrzo7icg2
[04:35] <xubuntu287> great it looks as though all the alternate isos are hosed
[04:36] <Unit193> First comment says it all ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pkgsel/+bug/995140/comments/1 )
[04:36] <Unit193> RIghto....
[04:40] <xubuntu287> ok I'll go in and edit launchpad and increase the severity and distributions affected
[04:41] <xubuntu287> (Having one of the supported install methods guaranteed to fail on all machines is really a pretty critical bug [not to mention embarassing])]
[04:42] <Unit193> But, the mini install should work, since it shouldn't have X+friends.
[04:50] <cacsar> Actually if someone has the authority to change bug importance on launch pad, I'd appreciate it if they could go in and change it for 995140
[04:55] <Unit193> It takes a launchpad account.
[04:58] <cacsar> It takes a project maintainer or bug supervisor
[05:05] <Unit193> !away | usa_today
[08:40] <sankey> will xfce 4.10 ever make it to xubuntu 12.04, or does it have to wait until 12.11?
[08:40] <sankey> i mean 12.10
[08:49] <knome> until 12.10
[08:55] <Sysi> there's ppa but won't be in official repositories
[09:02] <malv> year of the linux is coming up
[09:06] <Marzata> malv: the polar year?
[09:07] <knome> malv, Marzata: #xubuntu-offtopic
[10:41] <G__81> hi i am trying to upgrade from xfce 4.8 to 4.10. I am using 12.04. I tried the steps mentioned in the link http://www.tuxgarage.com/2012/05/xfce-4-10-available-for-precise.html but i am not able to get the updates. can someone help me out  ?
[11:16] <Marzata> how to remove the keyring popup in xubuntu?
[11:32] <judgen> is it possible to set the desktop icons to launch another file manager instead of thunar? like konqueror or any such thing
[11:33] <Artemis3> preferred apps in settings manager?
[11:52] <judgen> that does work on everything except the desktop
[11:54] <judgen> do not get me wrong, i really like thunar.. but i like to play with this kind of stuff
[11:58] <Marzata> what do you like it really?
[12:48] <csioktel> hi, i'm new to ufw, i added some rules with ufw, after reboot, those rules still here, i want to know, where is the ufw save rules path?
[12:49] <csioktel> is it ufw will automatic save the rules to somewhere?
[13:04] <recon69_lap> hi, how to you adjust the screen brightness?
[13:05] <recon69_lap> before i go blind
[13:13] <recon69_lap> never mind, found it. good to be able to see screen without squinting
[13:19] <Adriannom> hi.  just installed xubuntu 12.04 and after i suspend, the screen is very dark, even at the prompt to log back in.  changing brightness has some effect, but even full brightness is very dark.  any ideas what could be going on?
[13:20] <Adriannom> the mouse pointer is actually the only thing that is at full brightness
[13:21] <recon69_lap> Adriannom: try right click the desktop and select desktop settings , some sliders in there
[13:22] <Adriannom> recon69_lap, yup, that is how i tried to change the brightness.  it has some effect, but the darkness pervades all
[13:23] <recon69_lap> and you got the brightness slider applet ?
[13:23] <Adriannom> what's that?
[13:24] <Adriannom> this is a fresh install.  do i need to install it?
[13:24] <recon69_lap> install xfce4-power-manager-plugins
[13:24] <Adriannom> ok
[13:24] <recon69_lap> and add it to a pannel
[13:26] <Adriannom> ok added, but it has a white sun filled with red, and an exclamation mark in the middle
[13:26] <Adriannom> when i click on it nothing happens
[13:26] <Adriannom> ah, hovering over it says "no device found"
[13:26] <recon69_lap> Adriannom: whats the make and model of computer
[13:26] <Adriannom> can't find any settings for it
[13:27] <Adriannom> it's just a home build pc, maybe 4 years old at a guess
[13:28] <recon69_lap> Adriannom: guess it's not playing nice with your video driver/card.
[13:28] <recon69_lap> Adriannom: I had the same dark screen , but the applet works for me
[13:28] <Adriannom> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV670PRO [Radeon HD 3850]
[13:29] <Adriannom> hm, i tried to install the proprietary drivers, but it failed for some reason.  i just gave up but maybe it's worth persisting
[13:30] <Adriannom> thanks a lot recon69_lap
[13:30] <recon69_lap> Adriannom: I'm tring to find the command to start the power management app, might be somthing in there
[13:31] <Adriannom> you mean like in settings->power management?
[13:32] <Adriannom> settings->settings manager->power management even
[13:33] <recon69_lap> Adriannom: yep, thats the one, on AC tab , is it reducing brightness ?
[13:34] <Adriannom> i see no such option
[13:34] <Adriannom> are you on 12.04?
[13:35] <recon69_lap> power manager -> on Ac -> Monitor -> brightness
[13:36] <recon69_lap> Adriannom: and did you upgrade or install 12.04?
[13:37] <Adriannom> recon69_lap, install, then update fully
[13:37] <Adriannom> first thing i did was experiment with suspend
[13:38] <recon69_lap> Adriannom: Had the same problems as you, but my brightness applet works. Dont really know enough about it to help you more.
[13:39] <Adriannom> no worries.  what video card did you have?
[13:40] <recon69_lap> Adriannom: this night help https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/power-brighter.html
[13:41] <Adriannom> not sure, i don't think it's an ordinary brightness problem because the mouse pointer is super bright
[13:41] <recon69_lap> Adriannom: nvida 9600 somthing
[13:42] <Adriannom> does turning brightness down normally leave the mouse unaffected?
[13:42] <P-Chan> Hello guys! I need help! In ubuntu 10.04 my video card  runs at 1200x800. In 12.04 in earlier too but now the maximum is 1024x768. I tried xrandr, graphical interface and not works
[13:42] <Adriannom> aha, managed to install an alternate proprietary driver
[13:42] <recon69_lap> Adriannom: well, maybe change you UI setttings in Setting manager -> Apparance
[13:43] <Adriannom> brb
[13:43] <P-Chan> -PCI Devices- Host bridge		: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ/P/PL Memory Controller Hub (rev 02) VGA compatible controller		: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Audio device		: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01) PCI bridge		: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) USB controller		:
[13:44] <recon69_lap> aggh, P-Chan, use pastebin
[13:44] <P-Chan> recon69_lap: sorry I am n00b
[13:46] <P-Chan> recon69_lap: dude and I can't install this window border: http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Windows+7+B%C3%A1sic?content=148698
[13:46] <P-Chan> I put in the .theme folder but not runs and other programs like  ubuntu update software not themed.
[13:46] <Adriannom> recon69_lap, the restricted driver fixed it.  thanks for putting me onto that lead :)
[13:47] <recon69_lap> Adriannom: no problem, appreciate the thank you
[13:47] <Adriannom> :)
[13:48] <recon69_lap> P-Chan: what video driver are you using?
[13:48] <P-Chan> To discover it i type lspc ?
[13:49] <aguitel> lspci
[13:49] <P-Chan> aguitel: I want secure mode. I don't want show the mac adress and other things
[13:49] <recon69_lap> P-Chan: in setting -> additional drivers
[13:50] <Sysi> P-Chan: that theme probably doesn't have gtk3 part, find one that has
[13:50] <Sysi> for changing window borders, see window manager settings
[13:50] <xubuntu999> hi
[13:51] <P-Chan> recon69_lap: I not have property drivers in my XUBUNTU rox a lot
[13:51] <xubuntu999> i have problem i cant install grub to my mbr
[13:51] <P-Chan> xubuntu999: try super grub disk
[13:52] <P-Chan> xubuntu999: is this safe?
[13:52] <P-Chan> http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Xfce-Theme-Manager?content=149647
[13:53] <P-Chan> recon69_lap: I don't see drivers
[13:53] <P-Chan> recon69_lap: in the  setting -> additional drivers
[13:54] <aguitel> xubuntu999, what problem
[13:54] <xubuntu999> grub install fails
[13:54] <xubuntu999> fatal error
[13:55] <aguitel> what error
[13:55] <P-Chan> xubuntu999: wHY you don't try super grub disk?
[13:55] <xubuntu999> i don't have a cd rom
[13:55] <xubuntu999> ^^
[13:56] <martinphone> help to manually configure a proxy with chromium, must be done via terminal: is it enough with "man chromium-browser --proxy-server="foopy:99"? do I have to cd somewhere?
[13:56] <P-Chan> xubuntu999: buy one. is very very cheap
[13:56] <recon69_lap>  P-Chan: bit slow, well out of practice dealing with issues in ubuntu
[13:56] <aguitel> P-Chan, go home please
[13:57] <xubuntu999> Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed.
[13:57] <aguitel> with sudo
[13:57] <xubuntu999> its installation error
[13:58] <P-Chan> recon69_lap: my lspci http://pastebin.com/fcsBAt4W
[13:59] <P-Chan> I hate lobbysts
[13:59] <recon69_lap> P-Chan: you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , but I'm just taking wild stabs in the dark, you could cause more problems
[14:00] <P-Chan> recon69_lap: I don't understand
[14:00] <aguitel> xubuntu999, try :sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[14:01] <P-Chan> recon69_lap: not happening
[14:01] <recon69_lap> P-Chan: I mean randomly changing display settings can easy lead to total loss of display
[14:04] <P-Chan> recon69_lap: ok
[14:04] <P-Chan> recon69_lap: Does Xubuntu 4.8 uses gtk3?
[14:06] <xubuntu258> hello. I am having problems formatting a sd card using xubuntu. anyone know an easy way to do this?
[14:07] <P-Chan> xubuntu258: me too. I can't format my mp4 in xubuntu. Only in ubuntu
[14:07] <P-Chan> Gparted not works. Only in b stick
[14:07] <P-Chan> usb stick
[14:07] <xubuntu258> so its not possible, then?
[14:08] <recon69_lap> P-Chan:  gir1.2gtk 2 and 3 are installed, not sure which is actually used by xubuntu
[14:09] <P-Chan> recon69_lap: thanks.
[14:10] <recon69_lap> P-Chan: don't mean I know what I'm talking about though. think you want a gtk3 compatible skin
[14:11] <P-Chan> recon69_lap:  I want this http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Windows+7+B%C3%A1sic?content=148698 but xubuntu doesn't see
[14:11] <P-Chan> And my monitor before the resolution problem wad daewoo, now is monitor only O_O
[14:11] <P-Chan> was
[14:13] <xubuntu977> can somebody tell me how to install SGD2 on pendrive and how to use it?
[14:13] <recon69_lap> xubuntu977: was going to suggest using disk utility, but i get an error when i try to open it
[14:14] <xubuntu977> u mean gparted?
[14:15] <recon69_lap> xubuntu977:  dont know, only upgraded to xubuntu yesterday, thats why i'm here
[14:34] <P-Chan> Hello guys my monitor is 1024x768 I want 1200x800
[14:45] <martinphone> buy one
[14:47] <aguitel> buy 2 ,one for me
[14:49] <astraljava> Really, guys? That's good support?
[14:49] <astraljava> P-Chan: Do you know if your monitor is capable of such a resolution?
[14:50] <P-Chan> astraljava: Yes because It was worked in ubuntu 10.04
[14:50] <astraljava> P-Chan: You could install arandr, and see what it tells you about it.
[14:50] <P-Chan> astraljava: wait a moment I have installed it
[14:51] <P-Chan> astraljava:  What you want know in arandr?
[14:52] <astraljava> P-Chan: I can't say, as I haven't used it myself, but there should be an equivalent for querying the monitor capabilities, like `xrandr -q` (if my memory serves correctly, I'm not on a linux box ATM)
[14:58] <P-Chan> astraljava: How output the message in english? I am not NORTH AMERICAN
[14:59] <astraljava> P-Chan: You could try starting arandr from terminal, like this: `LANG=en_US arandr`
[14:59] <P-Chan> ok man
[14:59] <astraljava> P-Chan: Not sure if it works.
[15:01] <P-Chan> astraljava: http://pastebin.com/2z2x7Cwu do you have msn, facebook or anything?
[15:01] <astraljava> P-Chan: No, and support issues are best kept in the channel anyway.
[15:02] <astraljava> P-Chan: What is your native language? Maybe try that channel if you're not comfortable in here?
[15:04] <P-Chan> astraljava: sorry, portuguese channel for xubuntu don't exists
[15:04] <astraljava> P-Chan: That listing doesn't seem to support higher resolutions, so maybe there's something wrong with the drivers. What graphics card do you use?
[15:04] <Adam313> Hi, I was wondering does anyone know an easy way to delete a parition on windows xp
[15:04] <astraljava> P-Chan: Yeah, but you could ask on #ubuntu-pt, I'm sure they will help even when you're using Xubuntu.
[15:04] <P-Chan> ubuntu br
[15:04] <Adam313> I had linux mint 12 but I want to uninstall it and delete the parition
[15:04] <P-Chan> i am brazilian brazil il il
[15:05] <Adam313> or If I install xubuntu can I just use that empty parition?
[15:05] <Adam313> can anyone help me out?
[15:06] <astraljava> Adam313: Yes, you can install Xubuntu on an empty partition. In fact, that's the most usual thing to do.
[15:06] <P-Chan> astraljava: my lspci http://pastebin.com/fcsBAt4W
[15:06] <Adam313> astraljava, Thank you
[15:06] <Adam313> but can you tell me a quick an easy way
[15:06] <Adam313> to delete linux mint12
[15:07] <P-Chan> Adam313: use gparted
[15:07] <Adam313> P-Chan, Thanks I'l look into it
[15:08] <astraljava> Adam313: You don't necessary need to delete the partition either, the installer is capable of installing on a partition you don't need anymore. It will re-format it if that's what you want.
[15:08] <Adam313> I wont delete that parition if you told me I don't need to :p
[15:08] <Adam313> I was just wondering where can I download this, can I download it for windows xp?
[15:09] <Adam313> My desktop is rigt beside me and I'm ready to go
[15:09]  * astraljava points at the topic
[15:09] <Adam313> aha
[15:09] <recon69_lap> Adam313: it's a good idea to get the partition info before you install as it can be hard to know what partition is which with just device names
[15:09] <Adam313> recon69_lap, It's a small parition, 60gb's
[15:09] <Adam313> I know which one I'm using because I only have two
[15:10] <Adam313> So is there any other networks on freenods that I would enjoy lol
[15:10] <Adam313> I have never been on freenods for a long time before.
[15:10] <astraljava> Adam313: No idea, but please use -offtopic for other chitchat, this is a support channel only.
[15:11] <Adam313> okay
[15:11] <Adam313> one more question: is gparted for windows ?
[15:12] <P-Chan> Adam313: no but live cd is avaiable
[15:13] <Adam313> P-Chan, What is live cd because I have no cd's to burn anything to, I was thinking of using a usb drive by using linux live usb
[15:13] <Adam313> P-Chan, I need a parition editor so I can delete the files of that parition safely first of all
[15:14] <P-Chan> use mint live usb to delete mint installed
[15:14] <astraljava> Adam313: You can use the live image from USB stick as well, don't be fooled by the name.
[15:14] <P-Chan> Adam313:
[15:14] <recon69_lap> Adam313: the installer allows you to delete/create/format partitions
[15:15] <Adam313> recon69_lap, the xubuntu installer??
[15:15] <Adam313> Wow, that solves a lot of things.
[15:15] <Adam313> I have another thing: is the newest xubuntu better or 10.4
[15:16] <Adam313> Because I want to use the windows ubuntu installer, is there a list of what version I can pick on it? not just ubuntu, like kubuntu or xubuntu
[15:16] <recon69_lap> Adam313: just select advance or other when installing
[15:17] <Adam313> recon69_lap, okay
[15:17] <Adam313> thank you very much, i appreciate it,
[15:17] <recon69_lap> Adam313: what is this windows installer you talk about, sounds bad
[15:17] <Adam313> Uhm, It's on the ubuntu site.
[15:18] <recon69_lap> Adam313: you are setting up a duel boot system?
[15:18] <astraljava> wubi, and it's really only supposed to be used for checking out how Ubuntu works and looks like. Not a long-term solution by any means.
[15:18] <Adam313> recon69_lap, Yes.
[15:18] <astraljava> Adam313: Then that's not a windows installer you're looking for
[15:18] <Adam313> astraljava, I was thinking of using wubi
[15:18] <astraljava> Adam313: Right. Well, be aware that it'll be fairly limited.
[15:19] <Adam313> astraljava, What will be limited? wubi
[15:19] <Adam313> ?
[15:19] <recon69_lap> Adam313: thats not a duel boot system
[15:19] <astraljava> Adam313: Yes.
[15:19] <Adam313> recon69_lap, okay
[15:19] <Adam313> I'm dual booting
[15:19] <Adam313> so I can't use wubi
[15:19] <Adam313> linux live usb sounds good :p
[15:20] <P-Chan> Adam313: Yes. I have various isos
[15:20] <Adam313> is 10.4 better for xubuntu or the newst one?
[15:20] <recon69_lap> Adam313: boot to the live usb, install to the empty partition and keep the usb for emergences
[15:20] <P-Chan> Unetbootin only create a Image in USB
[15:20] <P-Chan> USB CREator create a EXT2 partition
[15:21] <recon69_lap> Adam313: I'd go with 12.04, it's got two more years support as well as being 2 years newer
[15:21] <astraljava> Adam313: 10.04 will only receive support for less than a year anymore.
[15:21] <Adam313> P-Chan, Using http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[15:21] <Adam313> can i edit paritions and delete paritions using that
[15:21] <P-Chan> Adam313: 10.04 is supported for more 2 years for server
[15:21] <milen_> hi all I have a problem whit flash player  anyone can help? Videos in internet does not start at all I have installed the adobe flash player and xubuntu restricted extras but still nothing, any one can help?
[15:21] <Adam313> I really need to delete that parition first
[15:22] <recon69_lap> Adam313: just make sure you pick the right options as you install, you should get to a screen listing partitions .
[15:22] <P-Chan> Adam313: mint himself has gparted in live USB
[15:22] <P-Chan> i use mint in my live usb because has codecs
[15:23] <mlsmith> Ew...Bug #775117 is still affecting me too. Comment #13 fixed my issue though.
[15:23] <recon69_lap> Adam313: formating the partition will delete everything on that partition
[15:24] <Adam313> recon69_lap, okay
[15:24] <Adam313> so on the xubuntu install
[15:24] <Adam313> is there a way I can format the partition when im doing this?
[15:24] <Adam313> :p
[15:25] <recon69_lap> Adam313: yes, just make sure you do not pick any of the automated options, you need to pick the partition before anything gets deleted
[15:26] <Adam313> recon69_lap, okay
[15:26] <Adam313> so i dont choose the automated options
[15:27] <Adam313> Is it hard?
[15:27] <recon69_lap> Adam313: yep, advanced the whole way :)
[15:28] <recon69_lap> Adam313: no, you just have to be careful , you select the wrong option and click "are you sure" a partition disappears
[15:28] <Adam313> okay recon69_lap
[15:29] <Adam313> After I formatt that parition
[15:29] <Adam313> can I go back to the automated way
[15:29] <Adam313> ?
[15:29] <recon69_lap> Adam313: dont bother , select the partition and set it to "/" , then install
[15:29] <Adam313> I'm going to be on my laptop so can I ask you questions along the way when I am doing this?
[15:29] <Adam313> oh yes
[15:30] <Adam313> So I installed linux live usb
[15:30] <Adam313> I hate how in windows xp I can't see the other partition
[15:30] <Adam313> I now have to go on linux again
[15:30] <Adam313> just to friggin get that .iso file
[15:30] <recon69_lap> Adam313: no, you will have installed xubuntu using a xubuntu live usb
[15:30] <P-Chan> Adam313: Windows i made by lobbysts
[15:31] <P-Chan> But Badindows is necessary to me
[15:31] <recon69_lap> Adam313: iso??? what do you need that for?
[15:31] <Adam313> recon69_lap, the xubuntu file
[15:31] <Adam313> that I have to put into the usb????
[15:31] <Adam313> I have it downloaded
[15:31] <recon69_lap> Adam313: the live usb stick is you install file
[15:31] <Adam313> wait
[15:32] <Adam313> can you explain was a "live usb" is
[15:32] <Adam313> ?
[15:32] <Adam313> Are you saying I won't be using a real usb
[15:33] <recon69_lap> Adam313: god, you write the .ISO to a usb stick, then boot your computer using the stick, then you select install and install xubuntu onto your empty partition, why what where you planning to do?
[15:33] <Adam313> recon69_lap, That is what I'm talking about
[15:33] <Adam313> :s
[15:33] <Adam313> lol
[15:33] <Adam313> I'm going to use linux live usb to write the iso file onto my usb
[15:33] <recon69_lap> Adam313: do you know what a .iso file is?
[15:33] <Adam313> it is the file that holds the install for the distro
[15:35] <Adam313> ?
[15:35] <recon69_lap> Adam313: what i dont get is you going to use a live usb to make another live usb?
[15:35] <Adam313> recon69_lap, Isn't linux live usb (this is a program) to write the .ISO file onto a usb
[15:36] <Adam313> its the name of the program
[15:36] <P-Chan> Adam313: does xfce forum support xubuntu?
[15:36] <Adam313> P-Chan, I don't know
[15:36] <Adam313> why
[15:36] <P-Chan> Adam313: why my problem isn't solved here :(
[15:36] <P-Chan> I wanna cry :'(
[15:36] <Adam313> P-Chan, I'm new to linux so I would not know
[15:36] <Adam313> :S sorry mate
[15:37] <Adam313> recon69_lap, do you get it  now?
[15:37] <recon69_lap> P-Chan: have you tried asking main ubuntu channel
[15:37] <P-Chan> recon69_lap: Ubuntu is for ubuntu, xubuntu is for xubuntu
[15:37] <P-Chan> :'(
[15:37] <recon69_lap> P-Chan: not really a xfce issue, more of a xorg issue
[15:38] <milen8204> recon69_lap, I can not run Video in internet sites
[15:38] <recon69_lap> milen8204: do you have flash installed?
[15:38] <milen8204> yes
[15:38] <milen8204> recon69_lap,  but the video do not run at all
[15:39] <Adam313> recon69_lap, I have a 700mb cd
[15:39] <Adam313> and the .iso file 7.13.3mb
[15:39] <Adam313> will I be fine
[15:39] <Adam313> Or should I use my usb
[15:39] <P-Chan> recon69_lap: the problem is only xubuntu has this problem, Kubuntu haven't it but i prefer xubuntu super mega power light weight
[15:40] <recon69_lap> Adam313: just make sure you do not just copy the file, you need to burn it as a .iso
[15:40] <Adam313> recon69_lap, what do you mean
[15:41] <recon69_lap> P-Chan: your issue is at a lower level that the UI, issue is with your monitor or video not being correctly setup/detected.
[15:41] <Adam313> the program I am goingto use will be the usb program " linux live usb" I'm not going to use the cd
[15:43] <recon69_lap> Adam313: well i used usb-creator-gtk , but not sure if you on windows
[15:43] <Adam313> I am on windows
[15:43] <Adam313> is that for windows
[15:43] <Adam313> ?
[15:43] <Adam313> I might use it if you claim its good
[15:44] <P-Chan> off topic: I like this music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eC0VfQMRdc
[15:44] <pleia2> unetbootin exists for windows too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From_Windows
[15:44] <P-Chan> pleia2: I use UNETBOOT
[15:44] <pleia2> P-Chan: use #xubuntu-offtopic
[15:44] <pleia2> P-Chan: please don't post links like that here
[15:44] <recon69_lap> Adam313: no, you'll have to find whatever MS windows uses. 3 years since I used windows, like a foreign country now
[15:44] <P-Chan> pleia2: ok
[15:45] <Adam313> pleia2, what is unetbooting
[15:45] <Adam313> is it a usb creator for iso files
[15:45] <pleia2> Adam313: the link I gave explains
[15:45] <pleia2> (I don't use windows either, so I'm not really sure about the process)
[15:46] <recon69_lap> I like the way a USB install remembers everything so you dont have to do anything twice :)
[15:47] <Adam313> recon69_lap, okay
[15:47] <Adam313> its putting the .ISO onto my drive
[15:49] <recon69_lap> anyone know why i get "Failed to execute child process "palimpsest" (No such file or directory)" when i select application->system->disk utility ?
[15:49] <Adam313> also recon69_lap : can I delete the iso of the drive after?
[15:51] <recon69_lap> Adam313: what???
[15:51] <recon69_lap> Adam313: remember that a .iso is a copy of a drive, so can be confusing if you are not really clear
[15:52] <Adam313> recon69_lap, Oh, I meant can I delte the .iso off the USB drive :P
[15:53] <recon69_lap> Adam313: the iso should not be on the USB drive? did you copy it there?
[15:53] <Adam313> I'm writing it there recon69_lap
[15:53] <Adam313> using linux live usb creator.
[15:53] <Adam313> It writes it there and makes the usb bootable
[15:53] <Adam313> so I can use it for install just like a cd
[15:53] <Adam313> :s
[15:53] <recon69_lap> Adam313: yes, and after you write it the USB will contain a linux operating system
[15:54] <Adam313> I know, but can I delete it off the usb after
[15:54] <Adam313> I know you think that may be silly but I might need to if my mum needs it (she does not use  google drive, dropbox, etc)
[15:54] <Adam313> I don't have a USB drive and I am using hers
[15:54] <Adam313> :p
[15:54] <recon69_lap> Adam313: agggh, the ISO will not be on the USB, a linux operation system will be,
[15:54] <Adam313> okay
[15:55] <Adam313> well you know what I mean, can i delete the linux os off of it after? :P
[15:55] <Adam313> ah it recognized the linux distro, xubuntu 12.04 :)
[15:56] <recon69_lap> Adam313: sure, but create a live CD so you have a backup for system rescue
[15:56] <Adam313> obv :p
[15:56] <Adam313> okay thats good that I can delete it after
[15:56] <Adam313> thanks for all your help recon69_lap
[15:56] <recon69_lap> you have not used computers long, nothing is obv :)
[15:56] <Adam313> but I hope if I have any questions while I'm installing it you will give me some tips
[15:56] <Adam313> recon69_lap, What do you mean? I have never used Linux before
[15:56] <Adam313> I love computing, irc, gaming, etc
[15:56] <Adam313> I program a bit to
[15:57] <Adam313> well I used to
[15:57] <Adam313> I have been slacking for a year atleast
[15:58] <recon69_lap> I mean that it's the obvious that you over look that wastes weeks and weeks before you realize.
[15:58] <Adam313> my god
[15:58] <Adam313> I think this is a vm box
[15:58] <Adam313> fuck my life
[16:00] <milen8204> any one had a problem whit flash player ?
[16:00] <recon69_lap> milen8204: no, don't think it's flash, maybe if you described in detail whats going wrong
[16:01] <milen8204> the clip does not start in youtube site in other sites that needs flash player to be installed
[16:02] <recon69_lap> milen8204: have you tried clicking on the clip?
[16:02] <milen8204> i have installed all add-ons
[16:02] <milen8204> recon69_lap, yes :D
[16:03] <milen8204> could my problem be of my video card ?
[16:03] <recon69_lap> milen8204: you just installed? can you play normal video using m-player?
[16:04] <Adam313> recon69_lap, Okay I think it is working
[16:04] <Adam313> can you help me out in insall
[16:04] <Adam313> install
[16:04] <milen8204> recon69_lap,  I will try and tell
[16:04] <recon69_lap> Adam313: Only from memory, so any f'k up's are not my fault
[16:05] <Adam313> my god
[16:05] <Adam313> its not fucking loading
[16:05] <astraljava> Adam313: Please refrain from cursing in here.
[16:05] <recon69_lap> sry
[16:05] <Adam313> astraljava, okay lol
[16:05] <astraljava> Adam313: You should read the Code of Conduct before spending much time on ubuntu channels.
[16:05] <Adam313> astraljava, maybe later I'm very busy
[16:06] <Adam313> I wont cuss though
[16:06] <recon69_lap> Adam313: and please be descriptive, did the usb write, did it boot computer ?
[16:06] <Adam313> recon69_lap, It did not boot at all
[16:06] <Adam313> it is a empty usb
[16:06] <Adam313> but it shows
[16:06] <astraljava> Adam313: Okay, but please, whenever you have time.  In fact, just faster.
[16:07] <astraljava> Adam313: How did you prepare the stick?
[16:07] <milen8204> recon69_lap, I have no m-player installed
[16:08] <Adam313> brb
[16:08] <astraljava> milen8204: Without the dash (so, mplayer)
[16:08] <Adam313> oh jeez
[16:09] <Adam313> how do I formatt my usb drive
[16:09] <Adam313> D:
[16:09] <Adam313> It has 900mb full and I don't the files are hidden
[16:09] <Adam313> I dont know what to do :|
[16:09] <milen8204> i have no video player in Multimedia except Parole
[16:10] <recon69_lap> milen8204: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[16:11] <milen8204> ok :D
[16:11] <GridCube> mplayer is terminal based
[16:11] <GridCube> you need a front end
[16:11] <GridCube> like smplayer
[16:11] <recon69_lap> thx GridCube :)
[16:12] <Adam313> recon69_lap, How do I format my usb drive
[16:12] <Adam313> I need those hidden files gone
[16:12] <GridCube> Adam313, install gparted
[16:12] <Adam313> GridCube, okay
[16:12] <recon69_lap> Adam313: your using windows, open the disk manager and format the drive
[16:13] <vitald> hello, i have a problem. When I try to record a sound on my PC I got a noise also. Xubuntu 12.04, sound card is 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA).
[16:13] <recon69_lap> Adam313: right clicking the icon give options too
[16:13] <GridCube> Adam313, oh... you are using windows?
[16:14] <Adam313> GridCube, Yes, I was installing xubuntu
[16:14] <Adam313> I have linux mint 23
[16:14] <Adam313> i mean
[16:14] <Adam313> 12
[16:14] <Adam313> loooooooool
[16:14] <GridCube> :P
[16:14] <recon69_lap> lol, have not idea what Adam313 has
[16:14] <Adam313> Wait it seems to be working, the xubuntu install
[16:14] <Adam313> so GridCube
[16:14] <Adam313> how do I fix this :p
[16:14] <Adam313> on linux can I format it
[16:14] <GridCube> using gparted yes
[16:15] <Adam313> is it easy to install :s
[16:15] <Adam313> ?
[16:15] <GridCube> sudo apt-get install gparted
[16:15] <Adam313> okay
[16:15] <GridCube> but ifyou use the live cd its pre-installed
[16:16] <Adam313> its installing
[16:16] <recon69_lap> Adam313: or "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[16:16] <GridCube> as... i just said
[16:16] <Adam313> thats what he said lol
[16:16] <Adam313> haha
[16:16] <Adam313> its installing
[16:16] <Adam313> okay the install is done
[16:16] <Adam313> now what
[16:16] <GridCube> open gparted
[16:17] <GridCube> alt-f2> gparted
[16:17] <recon69_lap> gparted
[16:17] <milen8204> recon69_lap, I can run video whit mplayer, ho is still not noticed in my Multimedia
[16:17] <GridCube> milen8204, mplayer has no front end
[16:17] <GridCube> so no entry on the menus
[16:17] <Adam313> GridCube, how do I login to root
[16:17] <Adam313> ?
[16:17] <GridCube> you need a front edn for it
[16:17] <GridCube> Adam313, why?
[16:17] <GridCube> o
[16:17] <GridCube> no no
[16:17] <milen8204> but i started it whit terminal
[16:17] <recon69_lap> Adam313: there is no root :)
[16:17] <Adam313> It says I need root privalidges
[16:17] <GridCube> alt-f2 > gksu gparted
[16:18] <Adam313> k
[16:18] <GridCube> Adam313, ^
[16:18] <milen8204> GridCube, I can run videos in Internet Do you have any ideas ?
[16:18] <Adam313> did it
[16:18] <Adam313> im on gparted
[16:18] <Adam313> this is cool
[16:18] <Adam313> okay
[16:18] <GridCube> milen8204, mplayer can
[16:18] <recon69_lap> danm, keep forgetting gksu
[16:18] <GridCube> milen8204, but you need flash
[16:18] <Adam313> where do i find my usb drive on it :p
[16:18] <Adam313> found it
[16:18] <GridCube> milen8204, have you installed the xubuntu-restricted-extras?
[16:19] <Adam313> GridCube, How do I delete the files on my usb
[16:19] <milen8204> GridCube, yes
[16:19] <Adam313> I did unmount
[16:19] <milen8204> GridCube, I have google it the problem
[16:20] <Adam313> right click and delete
[16:20] <Adam313> do I click delete
[16:20] <GridCube> no
[16:20] <GridCube> no
[16:20] <GridCube> format it
[16:20] <GridCube> you will delete the partitions
[16:20] <Adam313> okay
[16:20] <Adam313> GridCube, into what type
[16:20] <GridCube> if you hit delete
[16:20] <GridCube> Adam313, will you use it only with linux?
[16:20] <Adam313> I hit delete but undid it, it almost ruined the usb lol
[16:20] <Adam313> GridCube, nope
[16:20] <Adam313> both
[16:21] <Adam313> windblows and linux
[16:21] <GridCube> then you can format it to ntfs or fat32
[16:21] <Adam313> okay
[16:21] <GridCube> i recommend ntfs
[16:21] <Adam313> why ntfs
[16:21] <Adam313> ?
[16:22] <GridCube> fat32 its safer yes, but i have find that ntfs its less pron to incredible cases of file corruption
[16:22] <recon69_lap> this probably worth reading for new linux users http://www.unixmen.com/201204-top-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-2/
[16:22] <GridCube> and for usbs like 16gb its better
[16:22] <Adam313> GridCube, mums only going to be using it for ms word (ew)
[16:22] <Adam313> GridCube, Its 1gb
[16:22] <GridCube> Adam313, then fat32
[16:22] <Adam313> this is just old :p
[16:23] <GridCube> milen8204, sorry, can you explain your problem to me please?
[16:23] <recon69_lap> actually i take that back, it's full of unity stuff
[16:23] <GridCube> vitald, what program are you using to record sound?
[16:23] <milen8204> GridCube, I can run any videos in Internet sites
[16:23] <GridCube> good :D
, Audacity
[16:24] <milen8204> I mean I can not run any videos in Internet sites
[16:24] <Adam313> GridCube, I can't find it anymore D:
[16:24] <recon69_lap> milen8204:  try sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[16:24] <GridCube> Adam313, unplug it and plug it back again
[16:24] <Adam313> I did
[16:24] <Adam313> but I dont know which one it is on gparted
[16:24] <Adam313> and it does not seem to open on linux anymore
[16:24] <Adam313> I shall check with my laptop
[16:25] <GridCube> Adam313, its the one 1gb big
[16:25] <GridCube> you need to reopen gparted
[16:25] <Adam313> kk
[16:25] <Adam313> GridCube, uhm its still using the same amount of space
[16:25] <Adam313> D:
[16:25] <GridCube> Adam313, can i see a screenshot please?
[16:26] <Adam313> uhm sure
[16:26] <recon69_lap> milen8204: did that work?
[16:26] <milen8204> recon69_lap, I will try
[16:26] <recon69_lap> milen8204: do this instead http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_install_Adobe_Flash_Player_in_Xubuntu
[16:27] <GridCube> milen8204, if you use firefox you can try the flash-aid add-on
[16:27] <Adam313> GridCube, do you mind if i send via irc
[16:27] <vitald> GridCube, what can to do with it?
[16:27] <GridCube> !imagebing | Adam313
[16:27] <GridCube> !imagebin | Adam313
[16:28] <GridCube> vitald im investigating
[16:29] <Adam313> GridCube, http://imagebin.org/213131
[16:29] <vitald> GridCube, thanks, i'm waiting
[16:29] <recon69_lap> does "applications->system->disk utility" give a error when starting to anyone else?
[16:30] <GridCube> Adam313, in windows install http://www.partitionwizard.com/download.html
[16:30] <GridCube> its a free partition manager
[16:31] <Adam313> GridCube, I don't know why but this is seriously messed up :/
[16:31] <Adam313> GridCube, what irc client do you use?
[16:31] <GridCube> vitald, http://wiki.audacityteam.org/index.php?title=Noise_Removal
[16:31] <GridCube> xchat
[16:32] <recon69_lap> milen8204: also just found For Ubuntu 32 bit & 64 bit : To be able to watch some videos and see  flash website in your browser (firefox/ Chrome..), you need to install  flash plugin, go to  ubuntu software center and search  word “flash” and install it.
[16:32] <Adam313> GridCube, Thanks
[16:32] <Adam313> I see all the files
[16:32] <Adam313> this is great
[16:32] <recon69_lap> damn, all these different instructions for different UI's , becoming a mess
[16:32] <milen8204> recon69_lap, I have been installed flash plug-in
[16:33] <Adam313> recon69_lap, I see the linux os on the usb drive
[16:33] <Adam313> but why is it not booting
[16:33] <GridCube> :)
[16:33] <Adam313> Is it because I am using a partition
[16:33] <Adam313> ?
[16:33] <recon69_lap> Adam313: is your bios set to boot from usb?
[16:33] <Adam313> recon69_lap, I don't know
[16:33] <GridCube> i see 2reasons: 1) it wasnt marked as booteable, b) your computer can't boot into usbs
[16:33] <Adam313> How would I do that
[16:34] <recon69_lap> milen8204: well, does it work now after installing the flash plugin?
[16:34] <GridCube> Adam313, usually, modern bios have an F11 function that lets you choose the booting media
[16:34] <milen8204> recon69_lap,  the adobe flash pug in have been installed whit xubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:35] <GridCube> mmhm
[16:35] <GridCube> thats correct
[16:35] <Adam313> okay I'm sure it wont work for this
[16:35] <Adam313> so I shall just delete it
[16:35] <recon69_lap> Adam313: somthing like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8VZ95_XFA8
[16:35] <milen8204> but still no video
[16:35] <GridCube> Adam313, as you please
[16:35] <GridCube> milen8204, http://get.adobe.com/es/flashplayer/
[16:35] <vitald> GridCube, it didn't solve my problem. This noise is in any programs and I think that problem is in PulseAudio or somewhere more.
[16:36] <GridCube> vitald, sadly, my experience with audiorecording says that hardware noise its pretty common
[16:36] <recon69_lap> vitald: opening alsa-mixer can be helpful with soud issues
[16:36] <Adam313> GridCube, I don't know what ahppend
[16:37] <Adam313> now its just not even opening
[16:37] <Adam313> D:
[16:37] <GridCube> Adam313, usb keys die all the time
[16:37] <Adam313> GridCube, :/
[16:37] <Adam313> okay
[16:38] <Adam313> well
[16:38] <GridCube> vitald, http://wiki.audacityteam.org/index.php?title=Improving_Recording_Quality
[16:38] <Adam313> brb
[16:38] <recon69_lap> lol, I normally lose them long before that, and had one that made it through the wash several times :)
[16:38] <milen8204> I have chrash-report
[16:39] <milen8204> crash-report*
[16:39] <GridCube> milen8204, does the get.adobe page said you are running  Versión de Adobe Flash Player <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:39] <GridCube> ¿?
[16:39] <vitald> recon69_lap: I tried to make something in alsa-mixer early, microphone was working perfect in Ubuntu 11.04 and 11.10...
[16:39] <milen8204> GridCube, no it says the package was not found
[16:39] <vitald> GridCube, thanks for link but I think that problem isn't in Audacity
[16:40] <recon69_lap> vitald: probably some setting, only recently on xubuntu myself
[16:40] <GridCube> vitald, :/
[16:40] <GridCube> ok
[16:40] <GridCube> vitald, what does pavucontrol settings are?
[16:40] <GridCube> maybe you upped the volume a itch too much?
[16:41] <GridCube> recon69_lap, http://get.adobe.com/es/flashplayer/
[16:41] <GridCube> this site correct?
[16:41] <GridCube> it says you have no flash
[16:41] <recon69_lap> vitald: and you have checked out sound setting in the volume control ?
[16:42] <GridCube> recon69_lap, thats pavucontrol :)
[16:42] <Adam313> GridCube, I fixed it.
[16:42] <Adam313> lol.
[16:42] <Adam313> not going to get xubuntu yet
[16:42] <GridCube> :D
[16:42] <Adam313> gotta get a cd because bios wont work
[16:42] <Adam313> GridCube, It was quite easy, Linux is very advanced though
[16:42] <GridCube> :P
[16:42] <Adam313> I had to go through hell and back to get wee chat for irc
[16:42] <Adam313> yesterday
[16:43] <Adam313> I'm switching to Xubuntu because of the horribad repos on min12
[16:43] <GridCube> sudo apt-get install weechat
[16:43] <Adam313> GridCube, Obviously
[16:43] <Adam313> but I had to install
[16:43] <Adam313> extra stuffa
[16:43] <Adam313> and extra stuff
[16:43] <Adam313> and fix errors
[16:43] <recon69_lap> Adam313: you just have beginners problems, you'll be apt-getting like the best of us in a week
[16:43] <GridCube> lol
[16:43] <vitald> GridCube, recon69_lap:  volume is normal, I tried different levels, I set 4.0 sound output and stereo input and 6 ch sound in alsamixer. Maybe it connected with my problem?
[16:43] <GridCube> Adam313, the livecd has xchat preinstalled
[16:44] <Adam313> GridCube, XChat is not always the best
[16:44] <GridCube> dunno vitald thats way too much to my experience level
[16:44] <Adam313> I like WEEChat because it is very Lightweight
[16:44] <GridCube> Adam313, but its preinstalled
[16:44] <Adam313> so?
[16:44] <recon69_lap> does the disk manager fail for anyone else or just me?
[16:44] <Adam313> irssi is light weight
[16:44] <Adam313> easy to install
[16:44] <Adam313> wee chat is like irssi
[16:44] <Adam313> but with more stuff and basicly better all in all
[16:44] <GridCube> how "fail"
[16:44] <recon69_lap> "system->disk utility" i mean
[16:45] <Adam313> arch is the best lolololollol
[16:45] <GridCube> i dont have that recon69_lap
[16:45] <recon69_lap> GridCube: Failed to execute child process "palimpsest" (No such file or directory)
[16:45] <Unit193> Weechat is different than irssi, and clearly you use weechat.  They exist for different people.
[16:45] <vitald> GridCube, recon69_lap: 4.0 output is working just if i set 6ch in alsamixer. If I set a 4ch pavucontrol is make a fictive output and I have no sound.
[16:46] <GridCube> vitald, sorry i dont know :(
[16:46] <GridCube> maybe the people on #medibuntu can help you?
[16:46] <GridCube> they use xfce now
[16:46] <GridCube> so :/ dunno
[16:46] <GridCube> sorry
[16:46] <vitald> GridCube, sadly but thanks for trying
[16:46] <Unit193> GridCube: #ubuntustudio?
[16:47] <GridCube> that
[16:47] <recon69_lap> vitald: same here, dont know, just pointed out the sound controls I know of. there was a hardware test app that might be worth looking for
[16:47] <GridCube> that one
[16:47] <Adam313> Do any of you use arch?
[16:47] <GridCube> :/ why did i say medibuntu?
[16:47] <GridCube> vitald, ask on #ubuntustudio
[16:48] <vitald> GridCube, thanks a lot
[16:48] <Adam313> you know guys
[16:48] <Adam313> win7 is not bad
[16:48] <Adam313> its good for compatibility
[16:49] <pleia2> Adam313: please take non-support discussion to #xubuntu-offtopic
[16:49] <Unit193> Adam313: You may be better off in #xubuntu-offtopic (Or #ubuntu-offtopic if traffic is low)
[16:49] <Adam313> strict.
[16:50] <vitald> recon69_lap: thanks I'll searching something
[16:50] <recon69_lap> they'll be checking spelling next, and first time i ever heard MS described as being compatible
[16:57] <recon69_lap> so no ideas regarding Failed to execute child process "palimpsest" (No such file or directory)
[16:59] <laite> recon69_lap: try reinstalling gnome-disk-utility, it should provide /usr/bin/palimpsest
[17:01] <recon69_lap> laite: that fixed it, odd that it was missing, a installer bug?
[17:02] <recon69_lap> also getting "The 'Manual' browser command has been chosen, but no command has been set." when i click links in pidgin
[17:03] <laite> recon69_lap: Check pidgin preferences->Browser, select something else from dropdown-menu (firefox etc. should be an option)
[17:03] <laite> Tools->preferences, that is :)
[17:04] <recon69_lap> laite: thx, forgot to look for preferences in the panel icon
[17:14] <milen8204> I have installed all thinks  in Ubuntu Software center that have flash in it but videos in Internet do not start at all
[17:18] <recon69_lap> milen8204: have you opened firefox , gone to tools -> add-ons , and added shockwave flash ?
[17:21] <recon69_lap> got a buzz in my mic recoding too :(
[17:22] <milen8204> recon69_lap, yes I have it
[17:24] <milen8204> http://imageshack.us/f/209/shokable.png/
[17:24] <milen8204> you can see it
[17:26] <recon69_lap> hmm, I'll suggest a couple more plugins, DivX web Player , quicktime plugin, vlc multimedia plugin, windows media player plugin
[17:27] <recon69_lap> and finally is "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer" installed?
[17:28] <GridCube> milen8204, have you tried the flash-aid addon¿
[17:28] <milen8204> GridCube, yes :D
[17:29] <milen8204> i had installed it
[17:29] <GridCube> it works?
[17:29] <classic> GridCube, lolol
[17:29] <milen8204> no
[17:29] <classic> virtual box xubuntu
[17:29] <classic> ?
[17:29] <GridCube> :/
[17:29] <GridCube> classic, what with that?
[17:29] <Marzata> milen8204: have you installed xubuntu-restricted-extras?
[17:29] <classic> GridCube, Should I do it
[17:29] <classic> :p
[17:29] <GridCube> if you want
[17:30] <milen8204> Marzata, yes,
[17:30] <GridCube> milen8204, XD theres just a set of options one can guess
[17:30] <milen8204> My video is Radeon could be problem
[17:30] <GridCube> oh. ATI.
[17:30]  * GridCube doesnt like ati, not a bit
[17:30] <milen8204> me too
[17:30] <Marzata> milen8204: in my case youtube videos work even without flash, it's html5
[17:31] <GridCube> milen8204, press alt-f2 and write: gksu jockey-gtk
[17:31] <GridCube> Marzata, not all
[17:31] <Marzata> GridCube: most
[17:31] <milen8204> GridCube, there is no additional drivers
[17:32] <recon69_lap> what is the file browser called in xfce?
[17:32] <GridCube> :/
[17:32] <GridCube> milen8204, do this, on a terminal write: lspci | grep "VGA"
[17:33] <milen8204> enica@Xubuntu:~$ lspci | grep "VGA"
[17:33] <milen8204> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] (rev 01)
[17:34] <milen8204> whi ctrl+alt+T do not start a terminal ?
[17:34] <milen8204> why*
[17:35] <GridCube> milen8204, http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.7&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.3.3.1&lang=English
[17:35] <GridCube> milen8204, its a presetted shortcut :)
[17:36] <milen8204> it is the driver ?
[17:36] <GridCube> yes
[17:39] <milen8204> ok thanks a lot
[17:41] <milen8204> how to install it ?
[17:42] <milen8204> GridCube, how can I install that driver ?
[17:42] <GridCube> milen8204, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[17:42] <GridCube> :)
[17:42] <milen8204> ok thanks
[17:42] <milen8204> :D
[17:43]  * GridCube thinks ati is very very very troublesome
[17:43]  * milen8204 too
[17:44] <milen8204> how can I make Ctrl+Alt+T to start a terminal in Xubuntu ?
[17:44] <pleia2> milen8204: go to Settings > Settings Manager > Keyboard
[17:45] <pleia2> and select the "Application Shortcuts" tab
[17:45] <milen8204> pleia2, thansk
[17:45] <pleia2> there you can add shortcuts
[17:46] <milen8204> gnome-terminal ?
[17:47] <GridCube> xfce4-terminal
[17:47] <GridCube> gnome-terminal is for gnome
[17:48] <Marzata> xterm is for?
[17:48] <GridCube> X
[17:48] <Marzata> X marks the spot?
[17:49] <GridCube> nope, X is for X
[17:50] <milen8204> ok thanks
[17:51] <milen8204> ok how can I edit the shorcut ?
[17:51] <GridCube> add one
[17:51] <pleia2> double click on it
[17:51] <GridCube> that too
[17:51] <pleia2> when the box pops up you type the command you want to use for it
[17:53] <milen8204> pleia2, when I double-clicked the shortcut is just written I cant edit it
[17:54] <GridCube> milen8204, add a new one
[17:54] <pleia2> milen8204: you don't type it in, you actually use the command
[17:54] <pleia2> so doubleclick, then ctrl alt t
[17:54] <pleia2> it'll show up
[17:54] <Marzata> pleia2: sometimes they are missing
[17:54] <classic> god
[17:55] <classic> when you buy a new computer
[17:55] <classic> shit ton bloat
[17:55] <classic> fuckckckcckckckcc
[17:55] <milen8204> pleia2, ok I will try thanks
[17:55] <pleia2> classic: do not use that kind of language in here
[17:55] <GridCube> !language | classic
[17:55] <classic> oops
[17:55] <classic> sorry wrong channel
[17:55] <classic> wrong channel
[17:55] <classic> wrong channel
[17:55] <classic> do you people have bots installed on your irc client
[17:55] <classic> to automaticly type that
[17:55] <pleia2> classic: please stop
[17:55] <classic> It was an accident
[17:55] <classic> wrong channel..
[17:56] <Marzata> is there something like Disk Usage Analyzer for Xfce?
[17:57] <Unit193> Well, I personaly like ncdu...
[17:57] <recon69_lap> Marzata: does Disk Usage Analyzer not work in xfce?
[17:58] <Marzata> recon69_lap: I hope it works, but is for Gnome.
[17:58] <milen8204> I can do it :D, I will use super+t, When I pres CTRL + ALT + T  the shortcut made was <Primary>+Alt+t
[17:58] <baizon> Marzata: baobab, gdmap
[17:59] <baizon> yeah or ncdu
[18:01] <pleia2> milen8204: Primary and Ctrl are the same thing, so that's correct
[18:02] <recon69_lap> anyone know the cmd for extracting a .zip file?
[18:03] <pleia2> unzip file.zip
[18:03] <milen8204> pleia2, but do not work :D
[18:04] <pleia2> milen8204: strange, works fine for me :(
[18:04] <milen8204> ohhh
[18:05] <milen8204> i was  written in Bulgarian language, thats why the shortcut is unexecutable
[18:05] <milen8204> :D
[18:06] <milen8204> now works :D
[18:06] <milen8204> thansk pleia2
[18:06] <milen8204> thanks*
[18:06] <pleia2> great :)
[18:11] <bril> Hi
[18:12] <bril> Just installed Xubuntu on a eee pc with 4 gb. I choose the alternate cd because I have only 4 gb on that laptop
[18:12] <bril> But I get online a terminal after installing
[18:12] <bril> alternate is also with a gui I thought?
[18:13] <recon69_lap> maybe startx
[18:13] <classic> oh wow
[18:13] <classic> GridCube,
[18:13] <classic> you here
[18:14] <classic> wait nvm
[18:14] <bril> I now try to install the desktop, but that wont work because I have no 4.4 gb
[18:15] <recon69_lap> bril: the UI fits on a CD ??
[18:16] <bril> Only have usb
[18:16] <bril> I set up a bootable usb disk
[18:16] <bril> I am now very technical, and my English is also not that good
[18:16] <bril> :)
[18:17] <bril> But i made a bootable usb disk with the alternate iso and after installing I only had a terminal.
[18:17] <GridCube> bril, no, the alternate has not gui
[18:18] <bril> hm
[18:18] <bril> then we have a problem :)
[18:18] <GridCube> bril, what you need?
[18:19] <recon69_lap> sound like he wants a xubuntu desktop in under 4gb
[18:19] <bril> Well, it is an old laptop with only 4 gb disk. Very small so usefull for places where i wanna have a laptop but not my normal one. On holidays and things like that
[18:20] <bril> but all the linux distro's want 4 gb or more
[18:20] <GridCube> bril, try tinycore or slax
[18:21] <GridCube> tinycore does the work, i like it
[18:21] <GridCube> you need like 100mb for a whole desktop with it
[18:21] <bril> lets google it
[18:21] <bril> it for my girlfriend actually.
[18:22] <bril> so things like a brower, a chatprogramma must be availbe.
[18:22] <Unit193> AntiX, SliTaz, Puppy(-lucid)....... :P
[18:22] <GridCube> oh, puppy is nice too
[18:23] <GridCube> and slitaz
[18:23] <GridCube> thats good too
[18:23]  * GridCube thinks this is #xubuntu-offtopic material
[18:24] <Unit193> It really is.
[18:24] <bril> well, I got my answer: Xubuntu doesnt work for that laptop anymore
[18:24] <bril> no gui = no option so i gonna test slitaz
[18:25] <bril> thanks you guys
[18:25] <GridCube> bril, the alternate disk has no gui, the installation do
[18:25] <Unit193> Also, you could go from the mini and just install what you need (openbox, fluxbox)
[18:26] <bril> GridCube, i am very new. So correct me if I am wrong, but the gui is that use can use your mouse and see graphics. Not only a terminal
[18:26] <bril> it that right?
[18:27] <GridCube> yes
[18:27] <GridCube> graphic user interface = gui
[18:27] <bril> yes ok, then I understand it.
[18:28] <bril> install what i need is no option, i dont wanna spend to much time on it
[18:28] <bril> I looking for a complete solutions
[18:28] <bril> for a normale user
[18:29] <GridCube> bril, slitaz or tinycore
[18:29] <GridCube> or puppy
[18:29] <recon69_lap> bril: you mean gf user
[18:30] <bril> :)
[18:30] <bril> I like to figure out some new things in Linux, she dont
[18:30] <bril> but i am gonna try slitaz now, and if that doesnt work i gonna buy a budget laptop
[18:31] <bril> this 2004 crap is old
[18:31] <recon69_lap> bril: or buy a 32mb flash drive :)
[18:31] <recon69_lap> gb opps
[18:31] <Adam313> 32mb?
[18:32] <bril> Well, that is no option, she need the flash drive because on holdidays you make pictures and wanne email them direct to your friends.
[18:32] <bril> women...
[18:32] <bril> sd i mean
[18:32] <pleia2> bril: please don't be like that
[18:35] <milen8204> GridCube, Should I type Xubuntu except Ubuntu in that command: sudo sh amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/precise
[18:44] <GridCube> milen8204, i dont know
[18:45] <astraljava> bril: Yeah, please learn to control yourself in here. Code of Conduct helps you if you don't know what it means.
[18:46] <milen8204> GridCube, I am in deep sh*t whit that driver installation :D
[18:46] <GridCube> milen8204, :)
[18:46] <pleia2> !language | milen8204
[18:46] <GridCube> well, sorry about that milen8204
[18:47] <milen8204> GridCube, not a problem.
[18:47] <GridCube> milen8204, maybe you can get better help at #ati ?
[18:47] <milen8204> GridCube, ok thanks
[18:47] <milen8204> I will try
[19:07] <recon69_lap> hmm, still having issues with urban terror
[19:25] <recon69_lap> urban terror working :)
[19:46] <Ocelot92> Hi
[19:52] <crond> Anyone know how to get steam+optirun to play nice and launch apps running on the nvidia card?
[20:36] <cymbalkid> ello mates
[20:36] <cymbalkid> anywho their?
[20:37] <Unit193> Yep.
[20:37] <Unit193> !anyone
[20:38] <cymbalkid> i didnt know it was such a sin to say "anywho their?"
[20:38] <cymbalkid> lol
[20:39] <Ocelot92> quote...
[20:40] <Unit193> " <--- There you go!
[20:41] <Ocelot92> has someone problem with something?
[20:41] <Ocelot92> *anyone
[20:43] <astraljava> Just good fun, but maybe a tad in the wrong channel. :) cymbalkid, the thing is, this is not a place for general chat, so Unit193 was trying to educate you via the factoids.
[21:00] <xubuntu521> unetbootin dd winimage? witch
[21:00] <xubuntu521> ?
[21:00] <xubuntu521> best?
[21:01] <xubuntu521> for installing xubuntu form usb memory
[21:04] <Unit193> unetbootin is the one generically used.
[21:05] <Marzata> xubuntu521: use Startup Disk Creator
[21:47] <martinphone> does any of you use chromium with a proxy?
[21:51] <Unit193> I do not like that browser, but you can open a terminal and type   http_proxy="<IP_ADDRESS>:8123" chromium-browser to get it.
[21:51]  * Unit193 gone
[22:09] <sankey> will xfce 4.10 have to wait until xubuntu 12.10 to hit official repos?
[22:16] <crond> sankey, I believe so, since 12.04 is an LTS, I don't think they tend to update major package versions, but I could be wrong.  However, there is a ppa for 4.10.
[22:17] <sankey> crond: okay, but for sure we'll never see 4.10 in the 12.04 liveCD, right?
[22:17] <pleia2> that's right (and the ppa isn't officially supported, may not work as expected sometimes)
[22:17] <pleia2> sankey: right
[22:17]  * crond decides to try the 4.10 PPA and see if everything will die horribly.
[22:18] <sankey> i hope it works, i'm trying to get a friend to use linux, and xubuntu is looking like a good option
[22:19] <sankey> and he like the half-screen window tiling/snap in windows
[22:19] <sankey> i suppose unity is a good option too
[22:25] <crond> seems functional.  so far.
[22:27] <crond> o_O
[22:27] <sankey> eh?
[22:27] <crond> power manager says I have 10 hours of battery
[22:27] <crond> that can't be right.
[22:28] <sankey> how does that work, takes the average consumption over time?
[22:28] <sankey> maybe it needs more samples
[22:28] <crond> I'm guessing so
[22:28] <crond> ahh, adjusting my screen brightness also makes a major difference.
[22:30] <sankey> according to this PDF i found on google, the difference between high and low screen brightness is 3.5 -> 0.5 watts
[22:30] <sankey> on a particular laptop from like 5 years ago
[22:31] <sankey> if your laptop idles at 10 watts, then 3 watts *does* make a big difference
[22:36] <sankey> http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=<IP_ADDRESS>.5604&rep=rep1&type=pdf
[23:20] <arulphiuser> how can i install startupmanager to xubuntu 12.04


[01:36] <qengho> Hi hi hi.
[05:01] <hikiko> hi
[05:52] <pitti> Bonjour tout le monde !
[07:18] <desrt> bonjour, pitti!
[07:18] <desrt> ça va?
[07:19] <pitti> desrt: ça va bien, merci ! et  toi ? es-tu dans l'Europe ?
[07:20] <desrt> oui.  dans la «Basque Country»
[07:21] <pitti> dos cervezas, por favor !
[07:21] <desrt> le lol
[07:21] <desrt> it seems the local awesomeness here is pintxos... i have to say, i quite like the system
[07:22] <pitti> or "favor" (no space), I think
[07:22] <desrt> they take practically anything at all and put it on top of a piece of bread and put a bunch of them out at the bar.  if you want one, you just point at it and the bartender gives it to you... and it's like 1-2€... sometimes like 2€ for a pintxo and coffee, etc.
[07:23] <desrt> some of them can get pretty fancy
[07:31]  * desrt spends today in a hotel with surprisingly good wifi sitting beside an open window with rain in the trees outside and a perfect cool breeze
[07:31] <desrt> ...the world always looks awesome when i'm just finishing my first cup of coffee for the day =)
[07:41] <RAOF> Sounds nice!
[08:04] <willcooke> morning all
[08:11] <qengho> Hi hi
[08:11] <willcooke> evening qengho
[08:21] <Laney> fake hi
[08:22] <willcooke> o/ laney - good flight?
[08:24] <seb128> hey desktopers, Laney, willcooke
[08:25] <Laney> willcooke: I forked out to upgrade to premium economy, so it was acceptable
[08:25] <Laney> slept for like *3* hours!
[08:25] <willcooke> o/ seb128 - bad luck in the sportsball.
[08:25] <davmor2> seb128: congrats on making ogra_ cry
[08:25] <Laney> hi seb128
[08:25] <willcooke> Laney, nice!
[08:26] <seb128> willcooke, yeah, they didn't play the same game than in previous rounds...
[08:26] <willcooke> Laney, did you get a good deal?
[08:26] <Laney> like 180
[08:26] <willcooke> woot
[08:26] <seb128> is that mostly more leg room?
[08:27] <Laney> and the seats go back further
[08:27] <willcooke> and they dont spit on you
[08:27] <Laney> and a separate cabin
[08:27] <Laney> that's the main thing
[08:27] <pitti> hey Laney, bonjour seb128 !
[08:27] <Laney> and it so happened that it was only about 50% full in there this time
[08:27] <Laney> nobody climbing over me
[08:27] <Laney> hey pitti!
[08:27] <seb128> salut pitti, ça va ? t'as passé un bon w.e ?
[08:28] <pitti> seb128: oui, mais il faisait trop chaud :) donc nous n'avons pas faire beaucoup hier
[08:28] <seb128> c'était pareil ici
[08:28] <seb128> better today
[08:28] <seb128> going to too cold tomorrow
[08:29] <seb128> 34°->19°C
[08:29] <pitti> seb128: et toi ? as-tu terminé de pleurer ? *accolade*
[08:29] <alexarnaud> hello seb128, willcooke, Trevinho and all :) !
[08:29] <seb128> hey alexarnaud
[08:29] <pitti> seb128: oui, il va pleuvoir demain ici aussi
[08:29] <seb128> pitti, c'est que du sport
[08:29] <seb128> shame that they didn't play like in previous rounds though
[08:30]  * seb128 hugs pitti back
[08:30] <pitti> yeah, they seemed a bit tired
[08:30] <pitti> but understandable for a final, and an even bigger tournament than usual
[08:30] <pitti> not sure I like 16 → 24 participants
[08:32] <seb128> yeah, that was a bit weird
[08:44] <seb128> hum, is anybody here using gdm?
[08:44]  * seb128 is lazy to install it and restart his session to do testing
[08:45] <pitti> seb128: I can test in a VM
[08:46] <seb128> pitti, if you have one handy, robert_ancell was asking for output of "w" on a gdm system for https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm/+bug/1380364/comments/7
[08:47] <seb128> yeah for old world unspecified behaviours
[08:49] <pitti> gdm doesn't seem to start, I just see a black screen
[08:50] <pitti> well, it does start, but maybe it needs fancy 3D graphics or so
[08:50] <seb128> robert_ancell said he had the same issue which is why he asked if somebody else could test
[08:50] <seb128> :-/
[08:50] <seb128> pitti, thanks for trying
[08:50] <seb128> going to try to see if one of the Ubuntu GNOME guys are around later
[08:50] <pitti> seb128: if it helps, I can test under debian sid with lxdm
[08:51] <seb128> I guess that would give some data points
[08:52] <pitti> heh, it doesn't show any session at all under lxdm..
[08:53] <pitti> I'll try to install gdm in sd
[08:53] <pitti> sid
[08:56] <andyrock> seb128: Olá, como você está?  :-P
[09:02] <seb128> w.e was relaxing/good
[09:02] <seb128> it was warm and sunny
[09:02] <seb128> enjoyed the weather, had some bbqs, played some tennis
[09:03] <Trevinho> Good
[09:11]  * desrt solves her google language annoyance once and for all
[09:11] <seb128> hey desrt, are you in Europe?
[09:12] <desrt> custom search engine in chromium: copy the google URL from the standard one and add to it ?hl=en&
[09:12] <desrt> yup
[09:12] <seb128> can you tell google to always serve your a specific country version?
[09:12] <seb128> I guess what you just wrote :p
[09:12] <desrt> i want the local google (since it makes sense to have local results)
[09:12] <desrt> but i want it always in english
[09:12] <desrt> ^^ that works for this purpose
[09:13] <seb128> I don't
[09:15] <seb128> the ?hl= gives you results in that language as well?
[09:15] <seb128> or just the google ui
[09:16] <desrt> results and UI
[09:17] <desrt> but you get local results
[09:17] <seb128> cool, maybe I should use that
[09:17] <desrt> for example, looking for 'vodafone' gives me vodafone.es here
[09:17] <seb128> I wish google would be smart enough to do that automatically for you
[09:17] <desrt> if i did the google.com/ncr thing i'd get vodafone global corporate group
[09:18] <seb128> does that still work? that gives me google.fr here
[09:18] <desrt> i have google.es here, in english
[09:19] <desrt> i guess it might be a bit more complicated for you since you probably want french results sometimes and english others
[09:19] <desrt> or dutch :)
[09:19] <seb128> yeah
[09:19] <desrt> how's your dutch, btw? :)
[09:19] <seb128> what I really want is google to stop redirecting me to .nl when i'm there
[09:19] <seb128> or giving me dutch results
[09:20] <desrt> you want .nl, but in french
[09:20] <seb128> no
[09:20] <seb128> I want .fr
[09:20] <seb128> well depends :p
[09:20] <desrt> you don't want to look for anything in the netherlands?
[09:20] <seb128> depends
[09:20] <desrt> i look for two things, generally:
[09:20] <seb128> sometime I just want to order things in France and get them delivered to my place for next time I'm there
[09:20] <desrt>  1) international information "in the interwebs" (like work stuff)
[09:21] <desrt>  2) local places, info, etc.
[09:21] <desrt> i almost never look for toronto stuff when i travel... and if i do, i can add "toronto" or so
[09:22] <seb128> I guess I'm getting tired that 1) gives me dutch results
[09:22] <desrt> dutch the place or dutch the language?
[09:22] <seb128> the language
[09:22] <desrt> so hl=fr
[09:22] <seb128> right, it's just annoying to have to change bookmark, quick search
[09:22] <seb128> not even sure I can do that on my android phone
[09:23] <desrt> interesting question
[09:23] <desrt> do you use chrome there?
[09:23] <seb128> yes
[09:23] <desrt> hmm
[09:23] <desrt> the lack of adblock in chrome is really starting to become a problem for me
[09:23] <desrt> also: no good cookie control
[09:23] <seb128> true, I was thinking that as well
[09:25] <hikiko> Trevinho willcooke hello! https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity/unity.launcher-icon-anim/+merge/299664 I reduced the durations of the icon quirks here (launcher icon animation when a program starts etc) and it doesn't look bad imho, do you think we should merge it? I didn't set everything to 0, maybe I should, but I thought we might want some animation when a program starts for example...
[09:27] <hikiko> I could certainly set the urgent animation durations to 0 now I look at it
[09:33] <Sweet5hark> hmmmm. so the good news is: the snap l10n build is still running and it is not running in circles ...
[09:34] <Sweet5hark> the bad new is: it is touching files ... at a rate of ~204 files per minute. And it has to touch 79000 files.
[09:34] <Sweet5hark> thus it will bumble around for 7 hours doing this. meh.
[09:36] <seb128> hey Sweet5hark
[09:36] <seb128> urg
[09:36] <seb128> is there anything snap specific in that?
[09:36] <seb128> or just normal i10n build?
[09:37] <Sweet5hark> not really something snap specific in there. We do all l10ns at once, which should work perfectly fine but apparently is awefully slow for us.
[09:38] <willcooke> could it be a h/w issue?  Like a disk playing up?
[09:38] <willcooke> or that's just how it is and deal with it?
[09:39] <Sweet5hark> I assume that this a recent regression from some fix in GNU make causing make to touch one file and then restarting itself (and thus reparsing a bazillion lines of makefiles). I assume upstream doesnt see this as they are using an older GNU make.
[09:40] <Sweet5hark> so GNU make did a fix causing it to do more restarts, because it was looping in some cornercase before and that causes us to be hit by it.
[09:42] <Sweet5hark> When we build dpkgs we are hit by this too, but not as hard as we are building one l10n at a time there IIRC. Thus the dependency tree isnt that huge ...
[09:43] <Sweet5hark> And for the record: Yes I wrote the upstream build system. But for my defense, I didnt write the part that is slow now ...
[09:45] <Sweet5hark> s/reparsing a bazillion lines of makefiles/reparsing a bazillion lines of makefiles and then restating a few 10.000 files/
[09:49] <Sweet5hark> There are a few hacks to work around this like stopping the build "at the right time" and doing a "find  ... -exec touch" on the relevant subtree. But like anything containing handwaving words like "the right time", that would be extremely fragile.
[09:51] <seb128> well if there is a make regression that should at least be filed upstream/to whoever maintains make for debian/ubuntu
[09:53] <seb128> willcooke, unsure what changes we want in the LTS .1 which are not in proposed yet but we should probably engage with the release team about those because they are not communicating much atm but they might just say it's late and that we missed the boat then
[10:04] <Sweet5hark> seb128: well, "performance regression" aka you made my cornercase slow by fixing someone else breaking hard on a cornercase.
[10:05] <seb128> could be...
[10:05]  * Sweet5hark looks if this can be solved by some good old dependency breaking.
[10:05] <Trevinho> hikiko: I was thinking about that, but I thought that icon animations was fine as it was... Maybe it could have been reduced, but not removed. As it indicates also the state in some cases
[10:05] <Trevinho> while redraws because of it aren't that big
[10:06] <willcooke> seb128, the only things on my radar are the NM fixes and the low gfx mode, so I think generally we're ok.  My comment in the email was just a reminder
[10:07] <seb128> willcooke, k, well my concern is that the lowgfx might not get in, unsure how much of an issue that would be, I would suggest we are more pro-active if we want to make sure it's in
[10:07] <hikiko> Trevinho, maybe I could set them all to 1 or to SHORT_SHORT
[10:08] <hikiko> the starting animation for example where the duration is multiplied with other nums
[10:08] <Trevinho> hikiko: mh, maybe setting them all to the half is better, since they've have have different durations
[10:08] <hikiko> looks quite good (imo) with the 1
[10:08] <Trevinho> but really I think the way we've right now is fine
[10:08] <hikiko> Trevinho, I was thinking that we should reduce the starting animations at least
[10:09] <Trevinho> I'll do some tests
[10:09] <hikiko> because people complain that "the programs start slowly"
[10:09] <willcooke> hikiko, Trevinho - did anyone get to the bottom of that session startup problem yet?
[10:09] <hikiko> try the 1
[10:09] <hikiko> willcooke, Trevinho said that there were missing files from compiz in that daily build
[10:09] <hikiko> that would explain why we can start unity manually
[10:10] <Trevinho> willcooke: mh, not sure... I didn't test the daily
[10:10] <willcooke> hikiko, Trevinho  - ah yes, I remember.  Please can someone look in to that?
[10:10] <hikiko> willcooke, Trevinho, I am going to dist-upgrade and check if it's fixed in that vm (I don't have the problem in X)
[10:11] <Trevinho> hikiko: thanks
[10:11] <hikiko> Trevinho, if you could check the starting animation in my branch, I think it's quite faster and we still see animation, maybe I should change this only and leave the rest as it was
[10:11] <hikiko> I don't know :)
[10:12] <willcooke> thanks guys
[10:33] <hikiko> willcooke, Trevinho the update didn't have any desktop packages and I still have the same issues
[10:37] <willcooke> hikiko,  thanks for checking.  Could you and Trevinho try and get to the bottom of it please?
[10:40] <hikiko> sure, willcooke, well, I'll copy Trevinho's files manually to the vm to see if it starts, then we can make sure that it's because of the missing files, if it does we can only wait for the next release, if it doesn't we'll debug it further
[10:41] <willcooke> thanks!
[10:41] <hikiko> pff I forgot to delete a part of the sentence :p but you made sense of it :p
[10:41] <Trevinho> hikiko: dpkg -L compiz-gnome and unity too
[10:43] <hikiko> Trevinho, there's a /etc/compizconfig/unity-lowgfx.ini
[10:43] <hikiko> is this the file that was missing the other time?
[10:44] <Trevinho> hikiko: as for the /etc/compizconfig/config content?
[10:44] <Trevinho> hikiko:  and /usr/share/upstart/sessions/unity7.conf
[10:44] <Trevinho> hikiko: also, if you can try with a new yakkety daily from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[10:44] <Trevinho> would be nice
[10:44] <hikiko> sure Trevinho give me a minute
[10:44] <Trevinho> more than trying the distrupgrade that could be wrong
[10:44] <Trevinho> hikiko: thanks
[10:46] <hikiko>  the /etc/compizconfig/config is missing
[10:46] <hikiko> sorry
[10:47] <hikiko> it is there and contains the low gfx setting
[10:47] <hikiko> same for unity7.conf Trevinho
[10:47] <hikiko> those files are installed and have the new settings
[10:48] <Trevinho> hikiko: so... I don't see why things shouldn't work
[10:48] <Trevinho> hikiko: do you have ~/.cache/upstart/unity7.log handy?
[10:48] <hikiko> so.. debug :)
[10:48] <hikiko> Trevinho, it's empty
[10:49] <hikiko> Trevinho, the weird thing is you can start u7 manually
[10:49] <hikiko> lightdm can't start it
[10:51] <hikiko> there's an error in .xsession-errors but I am not sure it's relevant:
[10:52] <hikiko> upstart: upstart-event-bridge main process (<pid>) terminated with status 1
[10:52] <hikiko> upstart: upstart-event-bridge respawning too fast, stopped
[11:01] <ogra_> davmor2, the only thing that seb128 made me cry with is beating the world champion but then not managing portugal :P
[11:01] <ogra_> (without ronaldo !)
[11:04] <davmor2> ogra_: hahahahahahaha
[11:05] <davmor2> ogra_: could be worse you could be English :D
[11:05] <ogra_> lol
[11:26] <hikiko> willcooke, the new daily build (fresh installation) starts u7 in lowgfx, it just takes a while the 1st time
[11:29] <willcooke> hikiko, ah, so fixed?
[11:29] <willcooke> well, more fixed than it was anyway]
[11:29] <hikiko> willcooke, so it wasn't a bug :) it was just the package
[11:29] <willcooke> cool!
[12:40]  * qengho Zzz
[12:41] <seb128> night qengho
[12:42] <qengho> bon nuit, seb128
[12:42] <qengho> bonne? Argh.
[12:44] <seb128> bonne ;-)
[13:27] <seb128> sil2100, the data/device-configs files are copyright android and under apache license, that should be mentioned in the debian/copyright ... otherwise it looks fine I think
[13:28] <seb128> oh, that was a reply for the repowerd NEW review you asked early about on ci-eng, wrong channel though
[19:54] <willcooke> morning robert_ancell
[19:54] <robert_ancell> willcooke, hu
[19:54] <robert_ancell> hi
[20:23] <willcooke> right, gotta go and sort errant children out
[20:23] <willcooke> gnight all
[22:18] <robert_ancell> desrt, around?
[23:48] <jbicha> popey: I opened bug 1602035


[12:04] <mhz> pitux: congratulations!
[12:04] <pitux> yes windoze recognized
[12:05] <mhz> hehhehe
[12:06] <pitux> the system file i think is ntfs
[12:07] <mhz> hmmm, no idea :)
[12:07] <mhz> This is the 1st time I am glad I have no idea about something :D
[12:09] <pitux> ok
[12:09] <pitux> thanks
[12:27] <mhz_BackIn2hrs> JaneW: happy new year!
[03:02] <Lord_Athur> hi all
[07:12] <JaneW> hi mhz. Thanks and to you and yours too!
[07:12] <mhz> JaneW: LOL!
[07:13] <mhz> a bit late but thx
[07:15] <JaneW> hope it's a good one
[07:17] <mhz> JaneW: we'll see
[07:17] <mhz> I hope your kids are healthy enough
[07:18] <JaneW> mine are very well atm
[07:18] <mhz> one can't work at same speed
[07:18] <JaneW> thyey are still on holiday thogough
[07:18] <mhz> will we see eachother on Wed?
[07:18] <JaneW> yes
[07:19] <mhz> all Chilean kids are off school until March
[07:19] <JaneW> march!?
[07:19] <mhz> JaneW: yup
[07:19] <mhz> from December until March
[07:19] <mhz> :D
[07:19] <JaneW> wow
[07:20] <mhz> indeed
[07:20] <mhz> big wow!
[07:20] <JaneW> they get a month here
[07:20] <JaneW> university students get 2 months
[07:21] <mhz> JaneW: I almost forget... 2 and 1/2 pages for Edubuntu in a Magazine article written by me and being delivered to 350 schools now
[07:21] <JaneW> excellent!
[07:21] <JaneW> do you havce an electronic version?
[07:21] <JaneW> s/v
[07:21] <mhz> JaneW: nope but I am trying to get a scanner to wiki it
[07:21] <JaneW> put it in the edubuntu in the press section!
[07:21] <JaneW> cool, thanks :)
[07:21] <mhz> at least the article
[07:22] <JaneW> else take a photo of each page at least...
[07:22] <mhz> JaneW: yeah, I can do that
[07:25] <mhz> JaneW: next week I'll have lots of info I need to start Edbuntu Tour in Chile this year. We'd love to have Ubuntu and Edubuntu on same 'scenario'. And I was wondering if there's any big chance we can count with Edubuntu/Ubuntu people to visit us (and Colombia and Brazil, maybe)
[07:26] <mhz> This week I am designing a draft of Edubuntu Training courses (20 hrs each) for Teachers
[07:26] <mhz> and in the Tour, we'll be using these courses too
[07:27] <mhz> but having the prescence of Canonical hired people would be just perfect to show this is not only a kind LoCo team effort but something bigger and more motivating so others can join too
[07:35] <JaneW> mhz: Unfortunately I can't commit atm, but I do belive in your cause...
[07:36] <mhz> hehehe
[07:36] <mhz> okis
[07:36] <JaneW> I think the best thing to do to get noticed by Canonical and get more 'official' involvement is to
[07:36] <JaneW> keep documenting everything you do and keep copies of all the successes and press mentions etc
[07:36] <mhz> okis, I can do that
[07:37] <JaneW> the more noise and activity happeneing there, the more chance of there being a decision to go there...
[07:37] <mhz> thx for the honesty
[07:37] <JaneW> I know Mark was thinking of doing an Ubuntu Summit somewhere in South America in the next year or so.
[07:38] <JaneW> We could very possibly influence that to be Chile, if we can show that you have an active and organised community there.
[07:38] <mhz> well, i'll see what i can do
[07:38] <JaneW> and South America seems to have taken to the FOSS idea very strongly, from what I can telll
[07:38] <mhz> and start making lots of noise
[07:38] <mhz> indeed
[07:39] <JaneW> so the market is strong and willing there
[07:39] <mhz> Colombia, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, etc
[07:39] <JaneW> and is being helped by the fact that it's being legislated by governments such as that of Brazil etc
[07:39] <mhz> yup
[07:40] <mhz> BUT actually, companies and some schools dont belive in Tecnocimiento because we're more like a community
[07:40] <mhz> of volunteers only
[07:40] <mhz> so, it's very likely
[07:40] <mhz> we'll start some processes to become NGO
[07:41] <mhz> and maybe get some money and support
[07:41] <mhz> (last 3 months were a disaster in terms of income)
[08:45] <JaneW> mhz: understood
[08:49] <jsgotangco> JaneW, Fishnet stockings!
[08:49] <JaneW> jsgotangco: blush!!
[08:52] <Burgundavia> JaneW, do teel
[08:52] <Burgundavia> tell, even
[08:52] <JaneW> nevar! :P
[08:57] <jsgotangco> JaneW, I shall await when the circus comes to town
[09:14] <JaneW> jsgotangco: the circus has come and gone I am afraid ;)
[09:14] <jsgotangco> gahhh
[09:16] <JaneW> Burgundavia: oi!
[09:17] <Burgundavia> ;)
[09:18] <guim> http://www.claroline.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4756
[09:18] <guim> oups sorry guys
[09:18] <guim> wrong channel :-) ...
[09:18] <johnjohn> is edubuntu written in spanish?
[09:19] <johnjohn> or available in?
[09:19] <johnjohn> i gave a cd to a lady today who is flying to san miguel
[09:19] <johnjohn> hoping she would pass it on to someone at the bibliotech
[09:20] <Burgundavia> johnjohn, yes, and there is a very active spanish community
[09:24] <JaneW> johnjohn: speak to mhz, he runs the edubuntu Chile community.
[09:27] <jsgotangco> JaneW, fishnet stockings and pirate knife throwers ahrrrr blimey
[09:28] <JaneW> jsgotangco: did you see the tea bags?
[09:28] <jsgotangco> yeah
[09:28] <jsgotangco> heh
[11:05] <spacey_ki> morning
[12:15] <juliux> ogra_ibook, the rangee thinclient are here
[12:26] <ogra_ibook> cool !
[12:30] <juliux> later i will upload same pictures
[12:36] <juliux> ogra_ibook, do you know how to get into bios from thinclients?
[12:37] <ogra_ibook> nope
[12:37] <juliux> hm i think i will call rangee
[12:37] <juliux> because on the clients is little linux
[12:38] <juliux> but no boot menu
[12:39] <juliux> shit i have to go to uni
[02:31] <spacey_ki> ogra, hey
[02:32] <spacey_ki> correct that ldm still gives a problem in dapper
[02:32] <spacey_ki> did an upgrade from breezy to dapper and still had to apt-get -f install
[02:32] <spacey_ki> ?
[02:33] <spacey_ki> still got problems them ldm doesn't want to log in btw. BRB, i'll copy the logs from the thinclient
[02:46] <spacey> nfs timing out is also still common
[02:46] <spacey> at least the bootchart works again
[03:47] <mhz> ogra: hi, ping
[03:48] <ogra_ibook> hey mhz
[03:49] <mhz> ogra: i wont be able to get to CC today :(
[03:50] <ogra_ibook> its in 10 mins ..
[03:50] <mhz> jsgotangco and Yagisan already know
[03:50] <ogra_ibook> oki
[03:50] <mhz> yup
[03:50] <mhz> i'll hurry my butt up as much as possible to get back ASAP
[03:50] <mhz> bytes
[03:52] <ogra_ibook> bye
[03:54] <jsgotangco> ogra_ibook, hi, you've been loving ppc lately =)
[03:54] <ogra_ibook> yes, multiarch support and ppc install/live testing were necessary :)
[04:50] <mhz> ogra_ibook: so what happened to Madpilot? is he in?
[04:52] <ogra_ibook> yup
[04:53] <mhz> duh! I never saw that part
[05:05] <AngryAngryHippos> hey, anyone around?
[05:05] <mhz> yup
[05:06] <AngryAngryHippos> know anything about thin client?
[05:07] <AngryAngryHippos> Im wondering if it's possible to set up a tuxlab-style thin client system using regular ubuntu
[05:07] <mhz> Edubuntu does that
[05:08] <mhz> and even Edubuntu CookBook is based on TuxLab Cookbook
[05:08] <mhz> working very close
[05:09] <AngryAngryHippos> yeah Im wondering if it's possible to set up the same system in regular ubuntu
[05:09] <AngryAngryHippos> is it just a matter of installing the right packages?
[05:09] <AngryAngryHippos> or is there something fundamentally missing
[05:09] <mhz> be more specific please?
[05:09] <AngryAngryHippos> I've been having a lot of trouble with it
[05:09] <AngryAngryHippos> ok one sec, let me pull up my stuff
[05:10] <mhz> edubuntu-server will install LTSP (modified and improved) and the environment 99% ready to just start booting clients, while edubuntu-desktop will provide apps and Look&Feel
[05:10] <mhz> AngryAngryHippos: and the best tip I can give is read InstallNotes
[05:10] <AngryAngryHippos> ok
[05:10] <AngryAngryHippos> wheres that
[05:10] <mhz> just go throught the steps
[05:11] <mhz> and only set you network (if needed) and thats it
[05:11] <mhz> http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes
[05:11] <ogra_ibook> (or /topic ;) )
[05:11] <AngryAngryHippos> this will work in plain ubuntu?
[05:12] <AngryAngryHippos> I was on the ubuntu forums thin client howto and I had a ton of problems... lol dont even want to start listing them
[05:12] <ogra_ibook> the wiki ThinClientHowto should be fine
[05:13] <spacey_ki> hey ogra
[05:13] <ogra_ibook> hi
[05:13] <spacey_ki> read my previous messages?
[05:13] <AngryAngryHippos> anyway thx mhz, I'll try that out
[05:13] <ogra_ibook> spacey_ki, ldm ?
[05:13] <mhz> AngryAngryHippos: okis, good luck
[05:14] <ogra_ibook> AngryAngryHippos, the InstallNotes are rather for a plain edubuntu install
[05:14] <ogra_ibook> AngryAngryHippos, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto
[05:15] <ogra_ibook> thats for a normal ubuntu
[05:15] <spacey_ki> ogra, yeah
[05:15] <spacey_ki> and got something wierd atm
[05:15] <ogra_ibook> spacey_ki, i didnt fix it yet
[05:15] <spacey_ki> can't login with the thin clients
[05:15] <spacey_ki> ok
[05:16] <spacey_ki> i'll paste the message
[05:16] <ogra_ibook> did you run ltsp-update-sshkeys ?
[05:17] <spacey_ki> Connection to <IP_ADDRESS> closed by remote host.
[05:17] <spacey_ki> debug1: Transferred: stdin 0, stdout 0, stderr 50 bytes in 0.3 seconds
[05:17] <spacey_ki> debug1: Bytes per second: stdin 0.0, stdout 0.0, stderr 153.2
[05:17] <spacey_ki> debug1: Exit status -1
[05:17] <spacey_ki> yup
[05:17] <spacey_ki> thats not the problem
[05:17] <ogra_ibook> hmm
[05:18] <ogra_ibook> looks weird
[05:18] <spacey_ki> debug1: Host '<IP_ADDRESS>' is known and matches the RSA host key.
[05:18] <spacey_ki> so that works
[05:18] <spacey_ki> oh
[05:18] <spacey_ki> maybe another key
[05:18] <spacey_ki> anyway that part is right
[05:19] <ogra_ibook> the session on the server works locally ?
[05:19] <ogra_ibook> s/session/gnome-session
[05:19] <spacey_ki> I can log in with NX
[05:20] <ogra_ibook> can you log in directly in gdm ?
[05:21] <spacey_ki> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6894
[05:21] <spacey_ki> box is not hooked up to any keyboard/monitor atm
[05:21] <spacey_ki> i could try that tomorrow
[05:22] <spacey_ki> see the paste url
[05:22] <spacey_ki> for the ldm.log
[05:23] <ogra_ibook> looks like your X session is broken
[05:23] <ogra_ibook> or X11 itself
[05:24] <spacey_ki> hhmm
[05:24] <ogra_ibook> the user exists etc ? (has a /home etc ?)
[05:25] <spacey_ki> Xsession: X session started for herman at di jan 10 14:44:01 CET 2006
[05:25] <spacey_ki> No profile for user 'herman' found
[05:25] <spacey_ki> is in .xsession-errors
[05:25] <ogra_ibook> hmm
[05:25] <spacey_ki> ogra, yes, else NX wouldn't work either?
[05:26] <ogra_ibook> i have not the slightest idea about the NX package you use
[05:26] <ogra_ibook> and i dont know if NX even remotely uses any of the system defaults ...
[05:26] <ogra_ibook> i guess it just calls gnome-session or whatever you choose
[05:27] <ogra_ibook> so NX wont be giving me any valid info ... a local login would though
[05:29] <spacey_ki> i'll try that tomorrow
[05:29] <spacey_ki> i'm not on location now
[05:30] <ogra_ibook> oki
[07:35] <juliux> ogra_ibook, there are the pictures of the thinclients  http://www.juliux.de/linux/thinall.JPG  http://www.juliux.de/linux/thininnen.JPG  http://www.juliux.de/linux/thinunten.JPG  http://www.juliux.de/linux/thinvorne.JPG
[07:43] <mhz> juliux: hi
[07:44] <juliux> hi mhz
[07:45] <juliux> mhz, but i think i will send you a wyse thinclient if the work
[07:45] <mhz> wyse?
[07:45] <juliux> one moment
[07:46] <juliux> mhz, wyse is also fujitsu
[07:46] <juliux> i think
[07:47] <mhz> I really like the idea, it will very useful for both testing and demoing in public
[07:48] <juliux> mhz, but it is a thinclient from 2000
[07:48] <mhz> but? no but, it's good
[07:48] <mhz> ;)
[07:49] <juliux> mhz, ok
[07:49] <juliux> but at first i have to get it running with linux;=
[07:49] <mhz> hahahaha
[07:50] <mhz> I have made my 'thin-laptop' (no CD nor floppy) boot from M$ into Linux netboot
[07:50] <juliux> mhz, at the moment is a windows ce
[07:50] <mhz> puaj!!!
[07:50] <mhz> CE sucks!
[07:50] <juliux> jup
[07:51] <mhz> even M$ for Pocket PC work better :D
[07:52] <mhz> wow! Gnash
[07:54] <Burgwork> mhz, sadly that means there are now three free flash players
[07:54] <Burgwork> GPL: Gnash and GPLflash and LGPL:swfdec
[07:54] <mhz> booo
[07:54] <mhz> didnt know
[07:55] <Burgwork> mostly people assumed that gnash == gplflash
[07:55] <mhz> i try to avoid Flash sites and I even send letter requesting site versions with HTML
[07:56] <writer> Escuse me. What is "Gnash"?
[07:56] <mhz> writer:  a flash player and firefox plugin ( http://tinyurl.com/a6mev ).... it's one of the FSF's priority projects ( http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority.html ) and a real FOSS milestone
[07:59] <writer> Now I need see FSF and FOSS. Ok. Thank mhz
[08:01] <mhz> FreeSoftwareFoundation and Free Open Source Software
[08:01] <mhz> writer: was that it?
[08:02] <writer> I look on the site FSF and understand
[08:04] <writer> I'm not programmer:-(
[08:06] <mhz> writer: me neither
[08:06] <mhz> ;)
[08:07] <mhz> so dont worry
[08:07] <mhz> we all learn new stuff on daily basis :D
[08:11] <writer> I only studied Logo Turtle when I was the teacher and very glad to meet Turtles in Edubuntu
[08:12] <writer> I hope in the next issue Edubuntu I will see StarLogo or NetLogo
[08:12] <mhz> writer: have you proposed it? do you have arguments?
[08:13] <lucasvo> cool, mac book pro
[08:14] <mhz> ?
[08:14] <juliux> has somebody the edubuntu flight2 cd image on a faster server?
[08:15] <writer> mhz: StarLogo & NetLogo for student, not for school.
[08:18] <writer> look http://education.mit.edu/starlogo      http://ccl.northwestern.edu/netlogo
[08:19] <ogra_ibook> writer, we wont put any duplicates of software into the desktop ... we already have logo... if one of the others is packaged and proven to be better, we can replace kturtle ...
[08:19] <lucasvo> mhz: the new apple notebook
[08:20] <mhz> wow! pictures?
[08:21] <lucasvo> mhz: www.apple.com
[08:21] <lucasvo> 4x a fast
[08:21] <lucasvo> intel duo core
[08:21] <lucasvo> http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/
[08:22] <writer> ogra_ibook: No, kturtle for Junior very nice for first steps in programming
[08:23] <lucasvo> writer: yes, but it uses kde :P
[08:23] <lucasvo> a malus
[08:24] <writer> let be K or library from K
[08:24] <writer> I dream only about next Edubuntu
[08:24] <lucasvo> library from K
[08:24] <lucasvo> writer: your dream is 4 months away
[08:24] <lucasvo> from reality
[08:25] <ogra_ibook> in fact the last changes are 4 weeks away
[08:25] <lucasvo> ogra_ibook: in edubuntu?
[08:25] <ogra_ibook> after that only bugfixes will be allowed
[08:25] <lucasvo> hm, ok
[08:25] <ogra_ibook> feature freeze is the deadline for all new stuff
[08:26] <lucasvo> ogra_ibook: I wish a powerbutton in ldm!
[08:26] <ogra_ibook> send me a patch
[08:26] <lucasvo> ogra_ibook: I don't know how, but you could do it?
[08:26] <ogra_ibook> if i had the time, yes
[08:28] <lucasvo> is there some bot here?
[08:28] <lucasvo> !seen der_paul
[08:28] <lucasvo> does anybody know him? I think I already knew him
[08:31] <mhz> lucasvo: I could not see it
[08:32] <lucasvo> mhz: what?
[08:32] <lucasvo> http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/whatsinside.html ??
[08:32] <mhz> apple store nor macbook
[08:32] <lucasvo> without flash
[08:32] <lucasvo> maybe proxy?
[08:34] <mhz> lucasvo: the only thing i liked was "Backlit keyboard with ambient light sensors for automatic adjustment of keyboard illumination and screen brightness"
[08:34] <mhz> for me it's too heavy and big
[08:35] <lucasvo> it is not small yes
[08:36] <lucasvo> but if I have to carry my schololbag all the way around these few pounds more wont hurt
[08:36] <mhz> hhhehehehe
[08:36] <mhz> indeed
[08:36] <mhz> that's a reason why I stay with 10 inches Fujitsu
[08:42] <writer> good by all
[08:42] <juliux> cu writer
[10:17] <juliux> ogra_ibook, can you help me with edubuntu dapper?
[10:18] <ogra> whats the prob
[10:18] <juliux> i get an locale error
[10:18] <juliux> i have installed the base system
[10:19] <juliux> but after the reboot i get an error about locale
[10:19] <juliux> and the ubuntu configuration hangs up
[10:19] <juliux> bzw it freez
[10:19] <ogra> but you did select english locales as advised ?
[10:19] <juliux> i select no locales
[10:20] <juliux> at the bootmenu i select deutsch
[10:20] <ogra> yes, thats wrong
[10:20] <juliux> oh
[10:20] <juliux> ok
[10:20] <ogra> read the flight2 release notes
[10:20] <juliux> hm
[10:20] <juliux> on my notebook i installed dapper with german
[10:20] <juliux> ok so i have to install it new right?
[10:20] <ogra> from the edubuntu flight2 cd ?
[10:21] <juliux> no from the ubuntu flight2 cd
[10:21] <juliux> so it is a edubuntu bug?
[10:21] <ogra> nope, its a locales bug that doesnt show up unless you try to install postgresql :)
[10:21] <juliux> ah
[10:21] <juliux> ok i will install it again
[10:23] <juliux> can i select in the install prozess german?
[10:23] <juliux> or must i select english?
[10:24] <ogra> as the notes tell you ...
[10:25] <juliux> hm and where are the notes?
[10:25] <ogra> google for release announcement flight2
[10:25] <ogra> sorry i'm very busy
[10:26] <juliux> ok
[11:16] <Lord_Athur> hi all
[11:16] <Lord_Athur> mhz, hi, i've installed the ubuntu server... can I change the color of the virtual terminals (tty)? from
[11:18] <Lord_Athur> mhz, nobody know it in other channels of ubuntu, bu you're an official user of ubuntu, you must know...
[11:21] <Lord_Athur> :S
[11:28] <Lord_Athur> ogra,  hi, i've installed the edubuntu server... can I change the color of the virtual terminals (tty)? from
[11:41] <spacey_ki> you can at least set colours of the "herman@ki:~$" in your terminal
[11:42] <spacey_ki> its the $PS1 var i think
[11:42] <spacey_ki> in bashrc
[11:42] <spacey_ki> don't know about the rest