[12:04] <BlankB> omeow: in Konqueror unser setting -> configure konqueror - behavior. there is a checkbox to add a delete without the trashbin.
[12:04] <fiyawerx_> oh hey, what am i on here twice hehe
[12:05] <gnomefreak> fiyawerx: screen?
[12:05] <omeow> BlankB: Isn't that just for confirmation?
[12:05] <gnomefreak> fiyawerx_: are you using screen?
[12:05] <fiyawerx_> i was, i had forgot about it :)
[12:05] <fiyawerx_> i switched to konversation and forgot about the screen
[12:05] <gnomefreak> ;)
[12:06] <BlankB> omeow: the one for Show 'Delete' context menu...allows a delete on mens that overrides the trashcan. I dont know how to disable the trashcan altogether.
[12:06] <fiyawerx> is there a way to reset your freenode password
[12:06] <omeow> Oh well. I guess I'll just rebind the keys. :) Thanks anyway.
[12:06] <gnomefreak> !freenode > fiyawerx
[12:07] <omeow> Or maybe I can just ask in #kde
[12:07] <gnomefreak> fiyawerx: i think you need a staffer but read the link ubotu sent you to be sure
[12:07] <BlankB> omeow: according to that its shift + delete
[12:07] <fiyawerx> gnomefreak: ty again
[12:07] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:07] <omeow> BlankB: Yes, I know.
[12:12] <ubuntu> hello
[12:13] <ubuntu> i need help getting my sound to work
[12:14] <slow-motion> n8
[12:15] <mr_binary> can sumone tell me how to install programs that r not in adept
[12:16] <omeow> mr_binary: You download the .deb packages and then right-click on them, select Kubuntu package menu and select install package.
[12:17] <bojan> i booted my computer and my resolution is 640x480 @ 60Hz, and I cant change it
[12:17] <mr_binary> cool
[12:17] <mr_binary> tx
[12:17] <bojan> it used to be like 1400xsomething
[12:17] <bojan> @ 70ish
[12:18] <bojan> it used to be 1400x1050
[12:19] <bojan> when I go to display, it doesnt have any other ersolutions or refresh rates now
[12:21] <bojan> anyone have any ideas?
[12:21] <fiyawerx> bojan: i think dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is what you're looking for
[12:21] <bojan> but it worked yesturday fine =[
[12:21] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> but it doesnt work now
[12:23] <fiyawerx> should i be using a 686 kernel?
[12:23] <bojan> is that a command dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[12:24] <fiyawerx> bojan: yep, sudo it from konsole and should ask you questions about how you want your setup
[12:25] <bojan> what kind of questions cuz i am not sure about my settings
[12:25] <bojan> what they were
[12:25] <bojan> i just know what resolution
[12:26] <fiyawerx> I don't remember specifically off the top of my head, I went through it and don't remember anything too hard, most specific info you can get off the back of your monitor
[12:26] <fiyawerx> if you don't want to try it may have to wait for someone with more knowledge to come around
[12:26] <omeow> bojan: When you're doing that setup, you're required to know the horizontal and vertical refresh rate of your monitor.
[12:27] <bojan> would that be in my monitor manual
[12:28] <omeow> bojan: Most certainly.
[12:28] <driz_> hey
[12:28] <bojan> in my xorg.conf it seems to know my monitor ok, but I am not sure if it's complete
[12:28] <omeow> It'll also ask which graphics card you have.
[12:29] <driz_> wiw
[12:33] <Tommy2k4> how do i stop it changing windows when i scroll mousewheel over task bar
[12:41] <zym0tic> hello you all :)
[12:42] <zym0tic> is there someone who can tell me why kaffeine and amarok can't play mp3's via smb://
[12:42] <zym0tic> it worked fine in kubuntu 5.10 but not in 6.06
[12:43] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> because mp3s are evil
[12:43] <edu> hi!
[12:43] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> hi!
[12:44] <zym0tic> gege i know but people are evil to but we need each other
[12:44] <edu> i'm having problems deleting a package... could anyone help me? please
[12:44] <h3sp4wn> which package ?
[12:44] <zym0tic> at least I need a smart one now
[12:45] <edu> xorg-flgrx-driver
[12:45] <h3sp4wn> why ? don't you need it ?
[12:45] <edu> it is about libGL.so.1
[12:45] <edu> yup
[12:45] <h3sp4wn> Did easyubuntu install it when it was not necessary ?
[12:45] <edu> it's bad installed, (an ati driver...)
[12:45] <edu> No, I installed it
[12:45] <edu> following a tutorial
[12:46] <kuzmaster> how can i get kubuntu 6.06 to see a printer on the network?
[12:46] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> do apt-get remove ? maybe?
[12:46] <edu> but i did a bad step, and i selected "Dapper" option, when i had to select "6.06"
[12:46] <edu> I have already done that
[12:46] <fiyawerx> that reminds me need to take a potshot at some nvidia drivers
[12:46] <zym0tic> dapper == 6.06
[12:46] <edu> yup
[12:46] <edu> i know
[12:47] <edu> but it has crashed
[12:47] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ohh , try apt-get -purge
[12:47] <edu> the drivers don't work
[12:47] <h3sp4wn> pastebin: dpkg-divert --list | grep fglrx
[12:47] <edu> ok
[12:47] <edu> i'll try
[12:47] <edu> let me a second
[12:47] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> or is it -remove -purge?
[12:47] <edu> wait
[12:48] <edu> the problem is: when attemping to remove it it says "
[12:48] <edu> dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/lib/libGL.so.1' with
[12:48] <edu>   different file `/usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa', not allowed
[12:48] <edu> the driver previously created a simbolic link to another folder, another lib by ati, i guess
[12:49] <Tommy2k4> how do i stop it changing windows when i scroll mousewheel over task bar
[12:50] <edu> so... does anyone how to force a remove? i do force all but i still blocked...
[12:53] <zym0tic> nobody who can help me with my mp3 smb:// problem?
[12:54] <fiyawerx> hmm, the 686 kernel has support for hyperthreading?
[12:54] <Hawkwind> fiyawerx: Yes
[12:54] <Hawkwind> fiyawerx: I just installed it about 10 minutes ago
[12:55] <SkrotFFS> zym0tic: What's the problem?
[12:55] <fiyawerx> any problems?
[12:55] <Hawkwind> fiyawerx: Well, I just installed Kubuntu on my main box about 20 minutes ago :P
[12:55] <fiyawerx> or notice any difference? oh hehe
[12:55] <Hawkwind> fiyawerx: No problems here so far
[12:55] <fiyawerx> nice, will have to try it when I get home
[12:55] <fiyawerx> afraid to do it and not have my network card come back up
[12:55] <Hawkwind> fiyawerx: Yeah, HT makes a bit of difference, especially when compiling things
[12:55] <fiyawerx> what kind of machine are you on?
[12:56] <Hawkwind> Intel P4 3.2GHz HT
[12:56] <fiyawerx> i think thats similar to mine, on a hp media center pc
[12:56] <zym0tic> SkrotFFS: I can't play mp3's from my server with amarok or kaffeine, playing local mp3's isn't a problem
[12:56] <zym0tic> it worked fine in kubuntu 5.10 but not anymore in 6.06
[12:57] <SkrotFFS> zym0tic: Hm. Weird. But you can access the smb-server with smb:/?
[12:57] <fiyawerx> ah hell i might as well give it a shot
[12:57] <kuzmaster> how can i get kubuntu 6.06 to see a printer on the network?
[12:57] <fiyawerx> bbiab :)
[12:57] <zym0tic> yup and open for example a pdf file
[12:58] <SkrotFFS> zym0tic: Any errors in amaroK?
[12:58] <zym0tic> At first i tried zeroconf and aftther that the lisadaemon, don't really now if that has something to do with that
[12:58] <kuzmaster> is it possible to print across the network with kubuntu 6.06
[12:59] <zym0tic> SkrotFFS: none in amarok it just doesn't plays. kaffeine says that it can't play network files or something like that
[12:59] <SkrotFFS> zym0tic: Okay. No idea to be frank. Try #kde or #amarok
[12:59] <fiyawerx> anyone have a problem with adept not starting soemtimes? the loading icon comes up and it just goes away, i start it again and it runs fine
[12:59] <omeow> How come I get an error when I've inserted a DVD into my drive and double click on the icon that appears on my desktop? The error is "malformed URL"
[12:59] <zym0tic> thanx anyway I will try those channels :)
[12:59] <kuzmaster> fiyawerx, i get that excate same problem
[01:00] <fiyawerx> kuzmaster: wonder what causes it, like it won't even ask for sudo pw
[01:00] <kuzmaster> fiyawerx, and it somtimes happens to other programs and files
[01:00] <kuzmaster> yeah
[01:00] <fiyawerx> weird
[01:01] <kuzmaster> how can i print across the network in kubuntu 6.06?
[01:01] <Hawkwind> Why is it if I run 'glxgears' it doesn't tell me what my FPS's are that I'm getting ?
[01:01] <fiyawerx> is there an easy way to get your cpu stats in here?
[01:01] <Hawkwind> I have my Nvidia drivers installed as I'm using TwinView as well
[01:01] <Hawkwind> fiyawerx: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:02] <fiyawerx> Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
[01:02] <fiyawerx> but i coulda sworn it was HT
[01:02] <fiyawerx> or does it not show because of my kernel
[01:02] <Hawkwind> It probably won't show
[01:03] <kuzmaster> anyone?
[01:03] <Hawkwind> model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
[01:03] <Hawkwind> fiyawerx: Mine doesn't show HT in cpuinfo either
[01:03] <fiyawerx> ah ok :) well gonna give 686 a shot, hopefully my wifi wont crap out again
[01:03] <edu> is there any way to remove an "irremovable" package?
[01:04] <kuzmaster> yes?..no?
[01:07] <kuzmaster> ANYONE?????????????????
[01:08] <revontuli> hi all, does anyone have expirience with kubuntu on siemens/fujitsu "amilo" notebook. I don't get a propper modeline for X. The screen is a widescren supporting 1280x768 but all i get is a 1024x768 screen wich is kind of creepy scretched
[01:11] <greya> hi
[01:12] <greya> izz anybody there
[01:13] <ChefWill> sorry, we only speak english here!
[01:20] <negocio> how do i run foxpro for DOS in kubuntu? please help
[01:20] <negocio> im triyng to use wine
[01:21] <negocio> but it tell me that null point error
[01:22] <mcrandello> if it's for dos wouldn't you be ahead running it in dosemu?
[01:23] <negocio> where i get dosemu please?
[01:23] <mcrandello> sudo apt-get install dosemu
[01:24] <negocio> let me try
[01:24] <mcrandello> you'll probably also need to get dosemu-freedos and xfonts-dosemu
[01:24] <negocio> all from apt-get?
[01:24] <mcrandello> yep
[01:25] <negocio> apt-get cant find the package
[01:26] <mcrandello> ah it's in multiverse
[01:26] <negocio> let me try
[01:26] <negocio> where i get multiserver?
[01:26] <negocio> in adept
[01:26] <negocio> changing source.list
[01:26] <negocio> _
[01:26] <negocio> ?
[01:26] <mcrandello> I think you can do it there
[01:26] <mcrandello> yeah
[01:26] <negocio> backport
[01:26] <negocio> or the other_
[01:26] <negocio> ?
[01:27] <mcrandello> hang on trying to figure out how to do it in adept
[01:27] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> just enable all the servers in the adept
[01:28] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> right click , enable
[01:28] <mcrandello> wow that's easy
[01:28] <negocio> let me try
[01:28] <mcrandello> I was sitting here clicking around in the components section
[01:29] <mcrandello> anyone know how to unbreak drag and drop extraction for rar files in ark?
[01:30] <mcrandello> I keep getting an alert stating "the clipboard is empty"
[01:36] <negocio> mc, i have 18000 package to install
[01:36] <negocio> no one call dos emu
[01:36] <negocio> or dosemu
[01:37] <negocio> i enable all the repositoris
[01:38] <mcrandello> wierd apt-cache showinfo dosemu is showing mine coming from multivers
[01:39] <fiyawerx> every time i hear multiverse i think of chronicles of riddick 'underverse'
[01:39] <negocio> how can i see that
[01:39] <negocio> it tell me that showinfo isnt a command
[01:40] <Tanooki> Hi.  Has Kubuntu dropped support for reiserfs in Dapper Drake?
[01:40] <mcrandello> err showpkg sorry
[01:41] <mcrandello> where it says in there "uncomment the blah blah to enable the universe repository"
[01:41] <mcrandello> I have this : main restricted universe multiverse
[01:42] <negocio> ok i will try later
[01:42] <negocio> thanks
[01:42] <negocio> i have to go now
[01:42] <mcrandello> good luck!
[01:42] <negocio> very thanks
[01:43] <kuzmaster> how do i add a windows network printer in kubuntu 6.06
[01:43] <h3sp4wn> !cups
[01:44] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:46] <kuzmaster> thanx
[01:48] <fiyawerx> do you guys use theme managers?
[01:54] <kuzmaster> !vmware
[01:54] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[01:55] <fiyawerx> !theme
[01:55] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[02:03] <Tommy2k4> how do i stop it changing windows when i scroll mousewheel over task bar
[02:03] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> why do i have 3 different kernells installed? and how do i know which one is used ?  also ,i want to update my kernell with adept , do i have to uninstall the other kernel at the same time as im installing the new one?
[02:05] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Tommy2k4: i dont know , but that feature is awesome , why would u want to turn it off
[02:05] <Tommy2k4> because 99% of the time i do it accidentally
[02:05] <word> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd:  umm...because for safety reasons they aren't removed....largest number by default is used...no
[02:05] <word> lol largest number...i meant newest version
[02:06] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> word: ok , i get the point , so just install the latest one and reboot?
[02:06] <word> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: if you're not on a dual boot yup.
[02:06] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> word: ok , thanks
[02:07] <word> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: np
[02:11] <fiyawerx> hmm in system settings - appearnce , when i install new wallpapers, they show up bot don't work when i select them
[02:11] <mcrandello> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: What I do is after about a dozen or so sessions with the new kernel if nothing is broken I just remove the kernel image+headers packages that I'm not using anymore
[02:11] <mcrandello> oh
[02:11] <fiyawerx> sorry system-settings, desktop
[02:13] <mcrandello> you can also just right click on the desktop and then hit "configure desktop" to get there.
[02:13] <mcrandello> you hit apply and they don't show up at all?
[02:16] <fiyawerx> yeah then they don't show up as thumbnails in the selector either
[02:16] <fiyawerx> and it showed it get downloaded
[02:16] <seyacat> Hi all i have a problemo
[02:16] <mcrandello> can you click on the files in konqueror after you saved them and view them?
[02:18] <mcrandello> seyacat: let's hear it :)
[02:18] <seyacat> i have amd 64
[02:19] <seyacat> first i pur kubuntu 64 V5, and network works fine
[02:19] <seyacat> some day network stop to work
[02:19] <fiyawerx> oh, haha
[02:19] <seyacat> i can see eth0 , i have up all
[02:19] <fiyawerx> it downloaded it as a tgz
[02:19] <fiyawerx> but didn't extract it or give it the name
[02:20] <seyacat> but i cant see network computers even with ping
[02:21] <mcrandello> seyacat: is your connection dhcp?
[02:21] <seyacat> the ethernet is embed in motherboath i think there is the problem
[02:21] <seyacat> no with static ip
[02:23] <seyacat> mcrandelllo: with static ip
[02:23] <mcrandello> did you update or anything before it stopped working?
[02:23] <seyacat> in kubutu 5 ithink i update all
[02:23] <mcrandello> also if you type in "ifconfig" on a console does it show a HWaddr?
[02:23] <seyacat> but i am probing kubuntu and reinstall
[02:23] <seyacat> eth0 dont work
[02:24] <seyacat> i install now kV6 and nothing
[02:24] <seyacat> ethernet works witout problem in windoes
[02:26] <talljon84> I'm trying to get webcam support to work in Kopete. I have upgraded to Kopete 0.12 and installed v4l from dpkg; however, there is no Device in the dropdown. I'm not sure where to start on this one. Can someone lend me a hand?
[02:27] <mcrandello> is kubuntu already reinstalled? Also what ethernet card does Windows say it has?
[02:32] <seyacat> mcrandello: yes ethernet works in windoes, in kubuntu i can see etho
[02:32] <fiyawerx> hmm need to find some good themes
[02:33] <seyacat> but i dont work, i dont know it its driver, bios, or some crazy dhcp
[02:33] <seyacat> in ifconfig i see eth an lo
[02:34] <mcrandello> in ifconfig does it say "UP BROADCAST" and some other stuff on one line?
[02:34] <seyacat> let me see
[02:34] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> what does video overlay or opengl overlay mean?
[02:35] <seyacat> yes UP BROADCAST RUNNING MTU:
[02:35] <mcrandello> does it have your ip after "inet addr:"?
[02:36] <seyacat> yes     ip <IP_ADDRESS> broadcast <IP_ADDRESS> mask <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:37] <seyacat> i can ping <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> locally witout problem
[02:39] <word> well if you can't ping <IP_ADDRESS> something would be seriously wrong lol :P
[02:40] <seyacat> jaja, yes i think so too
[02:44] <word> seyacat: Hmm..
[02:45] <word> seyacat: Is there some sort of security on your network?
[02:45] <seyacat> no, local network is without firewall
[02:45] <seyacat> all computers have windoes
[02:46] <seyacat> when i try to ping it say HOST IS UNREACHEABLE
[02:46] <word> seyacat: Shouldn't be a problem my network is...was.. all windows (switched 2 to kubuntu) and it was working fine with samba
[02:46] <word> seyacat: Open up konqueror and type smb:/ in the address bar
[02:47] <seyacat> wait im staling samba now
[02:48] <word> seyacat: Ok.
[02:49] <seyacat> error
[02:49] <seyacat> wait i try to configure samba
[02:51] <seyacat> Nope
[02:51] <seyacat> smb:/ give me network error
[02:51] <seyacat> i cant ping
[02:53] <word> What's the error exactly?
[02:54] <word> seyacat:
[02:55] <seyacat> jeje, i can see now the network
[02:55] <seyacat> but im alone :(
[02:55] <word> seyacat: What is the name of your Workgroup for the windows computers?
[02:56] <seyacat> i change that now
[02:56] <word> if it's anything other then MSHOME you have to change it.
[02:57] <seyacat> workgroup is HOME
[02:57] <word> seyacat: Although usually you should see all workgroups on the network
[02:57] <seyacat> no
[02:57] <seyacat> i see only the local workgrop
[02:58] <word> seyacat: which is empty correct?
[02:59] <seyacat> i dont understad
[03:03] <seyacat> i thing samba is not the problem
[03:03] <seyacat> mmm i dont know
[03:04] <scast> Anyone knows where can I find kate colorschemes? lol
[03:08] <word> seyacat: uh..hmm....lemme find out how to re-detect network settings..
[03:09] <word> seyacat go to system settings - > Network settings
[03:09] <seyacat> ok
[03:10] <word> then to Domain Name Systems and pastebin the contents of Domain Name Servers and Static Hosts
[03:11] <fiyawerx> hmm, themes are confusing, cus there's like 50 different kind
[03:11] <seyacat> emptyu
[03:12] <word> seyacat: Both boxes are empty?
[03:13] <talljon84> Anyone available to lend a hand with webcam setup? I've got a Logitech webcam which appears to be supported under http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/  but where do I start with v4l? I'm having a difficult time finding a howto/documentation to help.
[03:14] <seyacat> no domain names is empty, and Static hosts have anly locals
[03:15] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> camone know how to make the glxgears show frames/ps?
[03:16] <mcrandello> glxgears -showfps
[03:19] <Hawkwind> Doesn't Kubuntu use Udev ??
[03:21] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: iirc yes all of them do
[03:21] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Well in systemsettings -> System Serives it lists udev as NOT running, and not to start on boot
[03:21] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> mcrandello: that doesnt work , unknown parameter
[03:21] <Hawkwind> So that leads me to believe it's not using it by default ?
[03:22] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: than it might not but i was thinking it did :(
[03:23] <driz_> Hey!!! I need help with flash and Java on Kubuntu 6.06~~> Newb. any truly helpful links because my own searches dont help much
[03:24] <driz_> please and thank you.
[03:24] <Hawkwind> !java
[03:24] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java For the runtime sun java install sun-java5-jre from the multiverse repository
[03:24] <Hawkwind> !flash
[03:24] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[03:24] <Hawkwind> There ya go :P
[03:24] <driz_> thank you
[03:24] <Hawkwind> No problem at all :)
[03:26] <word> seyacat: Still there?
[03:26] <seyacat> yes
[03:26] <seyacat> im trying jeje
[03:26] <mcrandello> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: sorry "printfps"
[03:26] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> mcrandello: yup , just found it , ty
[03:26] <mcrandello> or, hehe, glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[03:26] <mcrandello> no kidding
[03:27] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> well , linux drivers are too bad for any benchmarks
[03:28] <fujiko> buonasera
[03:28] <word> !network
[03:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about network
[03:28] <mcrandello> true
[03:28] <word> !networkconfiguration
[03:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about networkconfiguration
[03:28] <word> !meh
[03:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about meh
[03:28] <word> !anything
[03:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything
[03:28] <word> lol
[03:29] <mcrandello> I can't exactly run glxgears till I get this usb toshiba thing figured out
[03:29] <fujiko> qualcuno mi spiega come funzia
[03:29] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> mcrandello: why do u need usb for the gears?
[03:30] <mcrandello> if I enable the fglrx's 3d modules it completely locks up the usb bus
[03:34] <shadedpast> help
[03:34] <shadedpast> i installed the package kubuntu-desktop but it's still gnome
[03:34] <mcrandello> logout, hit the menu button and select kde
[03:34] <word> err...is there a gnome-desktop?
[03:35] <word> mcrandello: Ah, that makes sense heh
[03:35] <shadedpast> thnx
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> word: it's ubuntu-desktop, but pretty close.
[03:36] <mcrandello> glad to be of help :)
[03:36] <shadedpast> that work thnx
[03:36] <shadedpast> :)
[04:00] <francf> somebody know how to make konqueror (like browser). follow the links, mainly in the downloads pages
[04:01] <ubuntu> hello
[04:02] <ubuntu_> quit
[04:04] <Hawkwind> Why is it if I do something like gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config I get an error saying it can't connect to the X server ??
[04:04] <Hawkwind> Even if I use kwrite or any other GUI editor it tells me that
[04:07] <Blissex> Hawkwind: the 'DISPLAY' environment variable has to be set.
[04:08] <Hawkwind> Blissex: How can I do that ?
[04:09] <Blissex> Hawkwind: ahhh thats a pretty basic issue so you should really read about it, anyhow usually you can write 'export DISPLAY; DISPLAY=:0.0' but I suspect this won't help you a lot.
[04:09] <Hawkwind> Blissex: Ahhh, that's what I was missing.  I assume once you run that command it sets it permanently ?
[04:14] <Blissex> Hawkwind: no, only for that shell and all commands started from it.
[04:15] <Blissex> Hawkwind: however if you do it immediately after login that means everything you use.
[04:16] <fiyawerx> I always see people with screenshots of translucent windows
[04:16] <fiyawerx> is that hard to do?
[04:17] <Blissex> fiyawerx: yes, and pointless, except perhaps in one case.
[04:17] <fiyawerx> oh?
[04:17] <fiyawerx> some of them i just think look really neat hehe
[04:17] <fiyawerx> im just kind of sitting here not knowing what to install next
[04:18] <fiyawerx> guess i'll go look at more themes, can never seem to get them working irght
[04:18] <Blissex> fiyawerx: aKregator?
[04:18] <fiyawerx> not familiar with that
[04:18] <Blissex> fiyawerx: you can spend a lot of time reading blogs...
[04:18] <Blissex> fiyawerx: and aKregator makes that easy :-)
[04:18] <fiyawerx> hehe
[04:19] <fiyawerx> don't mention that program to my gf
[04:19] <fiyawerx> i'll neverg et the pc back
[04:27] <Hawkwind> Blissex: Is there a reason I have to do that at every startup, shouldn't it somehow be default ?
[04:29] <Blissex> Hawkwind: it is the default, probably you somehow are un-setting that variable.
[04:30] <fiyawerx> hm i guess thats a good idea, i might as well go through all the pre-installed kde apps and see what does what hehe
[04:30] <Hawkwind> Blissex: I've just done an install of Kubuntu on this box.  I don't see how or where I would have unset it since I've not unset anything
[04:32] <oomph_> how do i remove amarok from my start-up?
[04:32] <oomph_> it seems to always pop up when i login to kde
[04:32] <Blissex> Hawkwind: thats indeed a bit of a mistery.
[04:33] <Blissex> oomph_: depends, but almost surely you have session preservation on.
[04:33] <oomph_> i must...
[04:33] <oomph_> where do i check that?
[04:34] <Blissex> oomph_: are you sure you want to disable sessions? Anyhow you can disable them just for amaroK.
[04:35] <Blissex> oomph_: anyhow check 'Control Center:Components:Session manager'
[04:35] <oomph_> id like to disable em for amarok mainly
[04:35] <Blissex> oomph_: the other possible is that you got amaroK listed in '$KDEHOME/Autostart'
[04:35] <oomph_> ok, ill check both thank you
[04:37] <fiyawerx> i am so impressed by kubuntu
[04:38] <oomph_> yeah, i really do like it
[04:38] <oomph_> that coming from a guy that didnt like the previous version much
[04:39] <oomph_> anyone got any experience dealing with USB headsets?
[04:39] <oomph_> im trying to get my SIP client to use my Plantronics DSP 400
[04:39] <oomph_> but sound seems to come out of my laptop speakers instead
[04:40] <Blissex> oomph_: ask in #ALSA and/or read the http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html page, in particular the 'Tasks' section, might help.
[04:40] <oomph_> thank you
[04:41] <Ertain> Hello everyone.
[04:42] <oomph_> hello
[04:42] <Ertain> When I start Kopete, it asks for the Kwallet stuff, even though I don't have the Kubuntu pack for Kwallet installed.  Is there a way to get around this, without having to fully fill out Kwallet?
[04:43] <Ertain> Also, a little curious.  Is there a good support for Linux on tablet PCs and touch screen monitors?
[04:45] <pickledbushman> mornign guys
[04:45] <pickledbushman> and girls
[04:45] <Ertain> Hello pickledbushman.
[04:45] <pickledbushman> hey Ertain how goes it?
[04:45] <Hobbsee> Ertain: yeah, you can disable kwallet, but i've currently forgottne how i did it - or just not make it ask for a password for kwallet.
[04:46] <pickledbushman> anyone here use koversation a lot? im a recent convert and im falling in love with it
[04:46] <mcrandello> I'm using it right now
[04:47] <mcrandello> it's about as good as any other irc client I've used, of course I don't do a whole lot other than chat with it
[04:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> pickledbushman: I use it every night. It's good enough for me to not need to search for another one. :)
[04:48] <pickledbushman> does anyone know how to get konversation to run two commands when it starts up? reason for this is i conntect on a bnc through one of my servers for a vanity domain. the bnc requires the command /quote pass password, and /quote conn irc.server.whateva  I can only geti it to run the one
[04:48] <pickledbushman> CheeseBurgerMan, ive just come from 12 years or mirc use
[04:48] <pickledbushman> cant go back
[04:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> pickledbushman: Yeah, I used mIRC on Windows. Its the best one for that OS. :)
[04:49] <pickledbushman> yeah it is., hehe
[04:50] <pickledbushman> i just gotta come right with two more things, and ill be happy as a pig in a mudd puddle. getting dreamweaver working nicely, and getting to play bf2 online again
[04:50] <Ertain> Btw, what's BF2?
[04:51] <mcrandello> battlefield 2
[04:51] <pickledbushman> battlefield 2
[04:51] <pickledbushman> i LAN a lot
[04:51] <pickledbushman> and um
[04:51] <mcrandello> sigh, I miss 3d alot
[04:51] <pickledbushman> i cant live without my battlefield 2
[04:51] <pickledbushman> punkbuster pwns cedega
[04:51] <oomph_> bf2 is a great game
[04:51] <pickledbushman> dammit, dont the linux guys realise, that there are a lot of poor your teenagers who cant afford windows who would convert in an instant if they could game :/
[04:52] <pickledbushman> oomph_: yeah, kidna missing my clan hey
[04:52] <mcrandello> the old VBIED, detpacks on the hummer
[04:52] <pickledbushman> i dig the whole voip thing
[04:52] <Ertain> I'd like to get 3D games working with Wine or Cedega.
[04:52] <mcrandello> pickledbushman: the linux guys realize it but not the game devs
[04:52] <osiris> new games are starting to come with linux installers
[04:52] <osiris> some of them anyhow
[04:52] <pickledbushman> Ertain: you can get bf2 up and running in cedega, no worries. but when connecting to ranked server punkbuster kicks you off
[04:53] <Ertain> That sucks.
[04:53] <pickledbushman> i just want my battlefield 2
[04:53] <pickledbushman> its like the only software ive ever paid for in my life
[04:53] <Ertain> I'd like to get games working with Wine and not with the commercial Cedega.
[04:53] <pickledbushman> yeah that would be cooler
[04:54] <pickledbushman> i dont want to see pripririty software in the OS industry
[04:54] <pickledbushman> but spelt right
[04:54] <mcrandello> pickledbushman: there's a #konversation channel with like 35 ppl in btw they might know how to do startup commands with it there
[04:55] <pickledbushman> at the ISP i work at, over 60% of the staff changed over to kubuntu the same day. xgl sold them
[04:55] <Ertain> Hello WinXpert.
[04:55] <Ertain> Ooh, I'd love to run and use Xgl.
[04:55] <pickledbushman> thank you mcrandello
[04:55] <pickledbushman> i cant stop giggling every now and again at the wobbling
[04:56] <fiyawerx> hmm
[04:56] <fiyawerx> might have to try that out
[04:56] <mcrandello> I happened to have a channel list open :)
[04:56] <pickledbushman> only thing i have issues with xgl, is that terrible shift+backspace bug
[04:56] <pickledbushman> but i have the fix
[04:56] <fiyawerx> what kinda specs do you need to run it?
[04:56] <pickledbushman> hehe, lol, this is only my second time on this server. should do a listing
[04:56] <fiyawerx> and did you follow a specific tutorial or anything to get it working?
[04:57] <pickledbushman> dunno flyawerx
[04:57] <dbglt> that's not a bug
[04:57] <fiyawerx> might be too much for nx to handle too, hehe, ive been doing everything remotely ever since i got tha tinstalled
[04:57] <dbglt> it is to restart xgl
[04:57] <pickledbushman> dbglt: who in their right mind makes X restart with shift and backspace
[04:57] <fiyawerx> man remote desktop FLIES
[04:57] <pickledbushman> restarts x
[04:58] <dbglt> shift/backspace for xgl
[04:58] <dbglt> ctrl/alt/bkspc for x
[04:58] <fiyawerx> well, not remote desktop, but the nomachine client
[04:58] <dbglt> it takes a simple one line xmodmap to 'fix'
[04:58] <pickledbushman> dbglt: well xgl and x on my system need to have a get to gether
[04:58] <pickledbushman> yeah
[04:58] <pickledbushman> ive got that
[04:58] <dbglt> pickledbushman: that is your system then. It is not a bug!
[04:58] <dbglt> (even though I found it rather annoying, also)
[04:58] <Ertain> I wonder if there are built packs of Xgl for Kubuntu.
[04:58] <pickledbushman> xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace Terminate_Server" &
[04:58] <fiyawerx> i think there were more people talking about that on the forums
[04:58] <fiyawerx> might be a bug
[04:59] <Fiya_Afk> have a good weekend guys
[04:59] <Fiya_Afk> works out
[04:59] <pickledbushman> dbglt: could easly be. since im new to the OS, im discovering new and interesting ways to break it every day.
[04:59] <dbglt> "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace", will suffice
[04:59] <dbglt> I have an xmodmap I load on kde autostart anyway (for multimedia keys), so I just added it to that
[05:00] <pickledbushman> i havent found the auto start yet
[05:00] <pickledbushman> one day
[05:00] <pickledbushman> when im big
[05:00] <dbglt> not sure if there is a nice way to do it with the GUI
[05:00] <Hobbsee> pickledbushman: /usr/share/autostart
[05:00] <dbglt> rather simple to do on the cli
[05:00] <dbglt> ~/.kde/Autostart, for your own user
[05:00] <pickledbushman> cool
[05:01] <pickledbushman> let me go look what it looks like inside there
[05:01] <dbglt> pickledbushman: google for it if you are stuck, it's pretty well documented
[05:02] <pickledbushman> oh, another thing that we should consider is man for dummies
[05:03] <Ertain> So... Might anyone know about general Linux support for tablet PCs and touch screen monitors?
[05:03] <mcrandello> I'm no expert but I bet touch screens are painful to set up
[05:04] <word> ok 2 questions..can you have multiple linux distros on the same pc...and can they use the same swap?
[05:04] <pickledbushman> ok, im just checking, is it normal for there to be nothing in the autostart directory when starting off
[05:05] <mcrandello> word: I don't see why not
[05:05] <mcrandello> it'd be about like any multi boot system, and they all use the same filesystem type for swap
[05:06] <dr_willis> word,  yes they can
[05:06] <dr_willis> word,  and live cd's often see and use the swap partitions as well
[05:06] <word> Cool. :D So opensuse and kubuntu should coexist well adding itself to the grubloader etc?
[05:07] <Iam8up> is "Dapper flight 3" 6.06?
[05:07] <word> Iam8up: nope.
[05:07] <Iam8up> what is it then?
[05:07] <dr_willis> Dapper has been released. :P so its Ubuntu #.# that i always froget
[05:09] <word> dapper flight 6 is 6.06 i think o.O  but you want 6.06 LTS
[05:09] <Iam8up> ...say that again?
[05:09] <dr_willis> Desktop Install cd of ubuntu - :)
[05:09] <dr_willis> or Kubuntu
[05:10] <Iam8up> i'm installing kubuntu 6.06 on my laptop atm
[05:10] <Hawkwind> I've just installed Kubuntu on this box and copied over some settings for KDE.  In konqueror all my icons are HUGE and for each and every directory I have to go to View -> Icons -> and click on Small.  Is there a global setting to change this ?
[05:11] <ranjan> hi i just dumped winxp and installed kubuntu, adept is updating. any tips for this noob
[05:11] <dr_willis> read read and read some more
[05:11] <dr_willis> learn the fundamentals.
[05:11] <osiris> ranjan, patience, and google
[05:11] <dr_willis> and then read some more.
[05:11] <dr_willis> :P
[05:11] <osiris> and irc.  that will get you far
[05:11] <ranjan> thanks, there is no firefox?
[05:11] <osiris> sure is
[05:11] <robotgeek> ranjan: wait till it updates. read the desktop guide
[05:11] <dr_willis> and dont expect the os to 'hold your hand and teach you'    its designed with flexability in mind.. not 'tutoring'
[05:11] <ranjan> for kubuntu
[05:12] <dr_willis> there is firefox for kubuntu
[05:12] <robotgeek> ranjan: install it using adept
[05:12] <dr_willis> you can install it easially
[05:12] <ranjan> i see no FF
[05:12] <dr_willis> !apt-get
[05:12] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto - also see !synaptic (gnome) or !adept (kde)
[05:12] <osiris> ranjan, firefox for kubuntu exists
[05:12] <ranjan> ok once upgraded i'll install FF
[05:12] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> how do i find out which ogg encoder kde is using and how can i update it?
[05:12] <ranjan> i am a web developer
[05:12] <ranjan> was into asp.net
[05:13] <ranjan> now looking to switch to PHP
[05:13] <osiris> isnt mondo very similar to .net
[05:13] <ranjan> does apache require a lot of hand configuration in kubuntu
[05:13] <Hawkwind> I've just installed Kubuntu on this box and copied over some settings for KDE.  In konqueror all my icons are HUGE and for each and every directory I have to go to View -> Icons -> and click on Small.  Is there a global setting to change this ?
[05:13] <robotgeek> osiris: mono, you mean?
[05:13] <osiris> thats it
[05:13] <Iam8up> ranjan - for it to work? no...
[05:13] <osiris> mondo is the backup software
[05:14] <ranjan> ok so only new php extensionsneed be installed?
[05:14] <robotgeek> !tell ranjan about lamp
[05:14] <ranjan> thanks robotgeek
[05:15] <ranjan> i got an old cd i tink this is flifht 3 or  something
[05:15] <robotgeek> ranjan: okay, update some more then :)
[05:15] <ranjan> lol taking its time
[05:16] <ranjan> 10% done
[05:16] <ranjan> can't wait so i can explore
[05:16] <ranjan> kid with a new toy woohoo
[05:17] <Hawkwind> Anyone have a clue about my icon issue ?
[05:17] <ranjan>  View -> Icons -> and click on Small
[05:17] <ranjan> in konq
[05:18] <Hawkwind> ranjan: I've done that.  But I have to do that for each and every directory unfortunately
[05:18] <word> Hawkwind: Have you done it in your home dir?
[05:19] <ranjan> no
[05:19] <Hawkwind> It's for other partitions as well though.  Not just stuff in my /home/ directory
[05:19] <ranjan> settings>>save view profile
[05:19] <Hawkwind> I've got 10 partitions on this box all with stuff in them
[05:19] <robotgeek> Hawkwind: save profile
[05:20] <balld> Ok, quick question for all of you IRC wizards.  I'm using Konversation and did a lookup for a 'Java' channel, here on freenode...I found one, name '##Java' but when I click join channel, nothing happens...any suggestions?
[05:20] <robotgeek> balld: /j ##java
[05:20] <osiris> try /j ##java
[05:20] <osiris> doh
[05:20] <Hawkwind> robotgeek: That still doesn't work for the entire system :(
[05:20] <ranjan> another question regaring display
[05:21] <ranjan> i have nvidia 6600
[05:21] <ranjan> and
[05:21] <robotgeek> Hawkwind: oh
[05:21] <ranjan> dell LCD TV not monitor
[05:21] <Hawkwind> It doesn't even cure the problem for all the directories in my ~/ directory either :(
[05:21] <ranjan> my screen res for tv is 1360 x 768
[05:21] <balld> Thank you guys, now I'm getting a "You need to be identified to join that channel"
[05:21] <Hawkwind> robotgeek: Once they are changed they don't go large again.  It's just that since this install the icons are huge in most every directory
[05:21] <ranjan> but kubuntu only configure 1280 x 768
[05:22] <robotgeek> ranjan, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:22] <Hawkwind> robotgeek: It's quite annoying to enter a directory and see HUGE icons and have to click View -> Icons every time
[05:22] <osiris> ranjan, you might have to custom define your monitor in xorg.conf
[05:22] <robotgeek> Hawkwind: yes, i am guessing it must be annoying. i am not sure how to fix it, sorry
[05:23] <ranjan> etc/X11/xorg.conf but what would be those custom settings and where can i find?
[05:23] <Hawkwind> robotgeek: Thanks.  I guess I'll just resize them as I come across them being huge :(
[05:23] <oomph_> if i install a deb package which repository should i use? stable/testing ?
[05:23] <robotgeek> Hawkwind: never had a problem like that though
[05:23] <ranjan> stable
[05:23] <oomph_> for example im trying to follow these directions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlantronicsUSBHeadsetControls
[05:23] <robotgeek> there is not "stable"
[05:23] <oomph_> and it says to install lineakd
[05:23] <Hawkwind> robotgeek: I think it's because I brought over a bunch of settings in ~/.kde from my other OS since this is a new install
[05:24] <robotgeek> Hawkwind: they deleting the ~/.kde/share/apps/konquerrc or so
[05:24] <dr_willis> Using .kde and .gnome settings from other versions/disrtos - can cause proboems
[05:24] <osiris> Hawkwind, just for fun.  back up your ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/faviconrc  file and try deleting the file
[05:24] <dr_willis> thers been a lot of "kde/gnome' settings getting messed up - issues ive seen lately
[05:25] <word> What's the best way to run fsck -c  on your current partition?
[05:25] <ranjan> is it possible to have gnome desktop too on this installation with kde not showing gnome apps and vce versa
[05:25] <dr_willis> ranjan,  the menu system - tends to show them all
[05:26] <osiris> ranjan, both kde and gnome can live on a system together, if thats what yer asking
[05:26] <robotgeek> ranjan: yes, thru some hackery.
[05:26] <farous> ranjan: there was a howto on the forums to do thata
[05:26] <aeon17x> I couldn't get the  symbol to display on kate and kwrite.
[05:26] <word> aeon17x: Does it show up as a box?
[05:26] <Hawkwind> robotgeek: Didn't change anything
[05:26] <Hawkwind> osiris: That didn't change anything either
[05:27] <robotgeek>  Hawkwind hmm, sorry. just guessing
[05:27] <osiris> tried scraping the whole .konq dir
[05:27] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> how do i find out which ogg encoder kde is using and how can i update it?
[05:27] <aeon17x> word: it appears as a question mark within a hexagon
[05:27] <aeon17x> weird, really
[05:27] <ranjan> cool thanks, i'll search
[05:27] <aeon17x> I have to copy paste it from somewhere first
[05:27] <aeon17x> Must be a KDE bug
[05:28] <word> aeon17x: Maybe those programs need spanish enabled or something
[05:31] <ranjan> adept or synaptic?
[05:31] <ranjan> which is preferable?
[05:33] <ranjan> thanks guys... i gotta run....
[05:38] <fiyawerx> anyone know the command to run glxgears with fps display?
[05:41] <oomph_> what is the KDE equivelent to these instructions
[05:41] <oomph_> With Gnome, use System->Preferences->Sessions. Select "Startup Programs" tab. Add "/etc/init.d/lineakd start". I don't know what the KDE equivalent would be.
[05:41] <word> is there a way to set an alert for when a repository server is updated?
[05:42] <fiyawerx> i think kubuntu checks them automatically against your installed programs doesn't it? or is that only for special things
[05:45] <MarcC> can someone tell me how to set the GTK theme in KDE?
[05:46] <mcrandello> kcontrol...
[05:47] <MarcC> I can't find such a setting in kcontrol...is it possible I haven't installed that component?
[05:47] <mcrandello> then under appearance there should be a gtk styles and fonts item
[05:47] <mcrandello> if not there's a package, hang on
[05:48] <MarcC> oh good, I thought maybe I was using Kubuntu, GTK haters version :)
[05:48] <MarcC> if you can tell me the package name, that'd be great
[05:48] <mcrandello> crap what is it
[05:49] <mcrandello> gtk2-engines-gtk-qt I think
[05:49] <MarcC> ok, thanks :)
[05:52] <MarcC> yep, that's what I was looking for!
[05:52] <MarcC> buenos noches
[05:59] <negocio> where i can download or install dosemu
[05:59] <negocio> i search in adept
[06:00] <negocio> i enable all server repositories
[06:00] <negocio> but it can find the package
[06:00] <negocio> help please
[06:01] <lowtech> shows on my search, but i dunno how to tell which repo
[06:01] <osiris> negocio, its in the multiverse repo
[06:01] <negocio> ok
[06:01] <negocio> how can i enble the multiserver
[06:01] <osiris> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse dosemu 1.2.2-3build1 [898kB]
[06:01] <negocio> cause i enable but there is no there
[06:02] <Healot> classic case of dapper-backports
[06:02] <negocio> can you give me the repository address to add to my source.list
[06:02] <Hobbsee> !repos
[06:02] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[06:04] <Melchiorre> or you can always download the package (and all it's depends) separately and install them manually ;) http://packages.Ubuntu.com/dapper/otherosfs/dosemu
[06:06] <word> argh i'm talking to my command line i need sleep..
[06:11] <aeon17x> !compose
[06:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about compose
[06:11] <negocio> sorry
[06:11] <negocio> can you tell me again the pages
[06:12] <negocio> hangup of my pc
[06:12] <Cornellius> mmm, SoundKonverter
[06:12] <negocio> osiris, can you_
[06:12] <negocio> ?
[06:12] <negocio> ok
[06:12] <osiris> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysourc
[06:12] <negocio> i have now
[06:13] <unix_infidel> man this is bad...
[06:14] <unix_infidel> i've been playing pokemon on emulator for about 4 hours straight now.
[06:14] <unix_infidel> lol
[06:14] <Healot> Gold?
[06:14] <unix_infidel> blue
[06:15] <inteliwasp> is robotgeek here?
[06:17] <Healot> damn
[06:19] <inteliwasp> anyone good at compiling drivers?
[06:22] <nixternal> drivers for what inteliwasp?
[06:23] <feistel> hi
[06:23] <inteliwasp> nixternal:  i finaly found the source code for my orinoco card that was previously not compatable with linux
[06:23] <feistel> I have Kubuntu 6 LST
[06:23] <feistel> and I just installed Amarok 1.4
[06:23] <feistel> but I can't find amarok-gstreamer package
[06:23] <feistel> what happend?
[06:23] <feistel> gstreamer is not supported in Kubuntu 6 ?
[06:24] <nixternal> gstreamer .10
[06:24] <nixternal> inteliwasp: orinoco works with every version of linux as it is in the kernel from 2.4 up
[06:24] <feistel> nixternal, how I can install?
[06:24] <oomph_> how do you execute a .sh file?
[06:24] <oomph_> syntax
[06:24] <nixternal> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10 ????
[06:24] <Cornellius> Adept, search for gstreamer, get the .10 files
[06:25] <nixternal> holy cow... feistel check out adept..there are a lot of them
[06:25] <nixternal> i use xine for amarok anyways
[06:25] <Cornellius> Adept, search for gstreamer, get the .10 files
[06:25] <Cornellius> amaroK
[06:25] <nixternal> i heard that with gstreamer you want the good, the bad, and the ugly
[06:25] <inteliwasp> nixternal:  the one i have has the agere chipset... not deteted
[06:25] <nixternal> agere and orinoco are 2 different chipsets
[06:26] <inteliwasp> nixternal:  mine was made by proxim
[06:26] <nixternal> what is the make and model of your wifi card?
[06:26] <inteliwasp> nixternal: basicly thr orinoco name but made by proxim
[06:27] <nixternal> if it was orinoco, you wouldn't have to compile any drivers
[06:27] <inteliwasp> proxim 8420_WD Gold
[06:27] <nixternal> all i use is orinoco and prismIII as they are the best for war
[06:27] <osiris> orinoco silver, with the external antenna jack ftw
[06:28] <nixternal> j00 know it osiris
[06:28] <feistel> ok,
[06:28] <osiris> 9+db omni whip on the roof
[06:28] <feistel> xine support MP3 ???
[06:28] <Melchiorre> oomph_: just type 'bash whatever.sh'
[06:28] <fiyawerx> anyone good at getting sound working?
[06:29] <fiyawerx> amarok will play things, but i can't hear anything no matter what i do
[06:29] <oomph_> mel: i tried
[06:29] <oomph_> something is up, heh
[06:29] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> anyone experienced with swiftfox?
[06:29] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> how do i find out which ogg encoder kde is using and how can i update it?
[06:29] <osiris> proxim makes crap "last mile" wireless broadband gear though
[06:30] <nixternal> feistel: yes..you just have to install libxine-extracodecs
[06:30] <Hobbsee> fiyawerx: crimsun is, but he's at work.  does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav" play?
[06:30] <oomph_> got it
[06:30] <feistel> nixternal, E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[06:30] <Hobbsee> !repos
[06:30] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[06:30] <Hobbsee> feistel: add multiverse
[06:31] <nixternal> !multiverse
[06:31] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[06:31] <fiyawerx> Hobbsee: it says it does, but i don't hear anything
[06:31] <nixternal> Hobbsee: slow down ;)
[06:31] <Hobbsee> fiyawerx: to the aplay command?  darn
[06:31] <Hobbsee> add the libxine-extracodecs from multiverse
[06:32] <inteliwasp> nixternal:  i have my card pluged in, but all i get in dmesg is "[4296884.582000]  cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean."
[06:32] <fiyawerx> hmm might not have that repo
[06:32] <nixternal> inteliwasp: look at http://wiki.splitbrain.org/wlan:orinocosilver
[06:32] <nixternal> is that your card in the picture?
[06:33] <derek_> has anyone tried ubuntu on a hp dv8000t becuz im looking to get one but havnt  been able to find anyone w/ dual core on linux
[06:33] <Hobbsee> fiyawerx: in kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list add " multiverse" to teh end of each line that says "universe"
[06:33] <fiyawerx> Hobbsee: gotcha, one sec
[06:34] <feistel> nixternal, thanks!!!!!!!
[06:34] <nixternal> derek_ check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[06:34] <nixternal> np feistel
[06:34] <nixternal> enjoy the power of amaroK
[06:34] <nixternal> there is a DV4000 in there derek_ and I know HP's are pretty good with Linux
[06:35] <antinobody> kwrite!  That's the editing program for kde.  I feel stupid again.
[06:35] <aeon17x> my compose key doesn't work in kubuntu, even though I set it already in accessibility :(
[06:35] <nixternal> kwrite or kate antinobody
[06:35] <inteliwasp> why did souceforge had to make life dificult...
[06:35] <fiyawerx> Hobbsee: still no actual sound
[06:35] <Hobbsee> fiyawerx: yeah, thought that might be the case.  did you get that package installed?
[06:36] <fiyawerx> yep
[06:36] <inteliwasp> nixternal:  i have the gold
[06:36] <Hobbsee> fiyawerx: cool.  is everything turned up in alsamixer?
[06:36] <fiyawerx> yeah, it sees all my jacks and stuff
[06:37] <aeon17x> ah, finally figured it out
[06:37] <derek_> nixternal so ive heard
[06:37] <aeon17x> you should place the ~ first before the n
[06:37] <aeon17x> to get
[06:37] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> where can i get libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0?
[06:37] <aeon17x> whee
[06:37] <derek_> a bit ago i read something about them working w/ ubuntu or something
[06:38] <derek_> i havnt been in the whole scene for about a month
[06:38] <antinobody> nixternal:  yeah, but kate doesn't work well from the terminal, so it's hard to sudo.  Although, you could gksudo "kate" I suppose
[06:38] <nixternal> lol...ya
[06:38] <nixternal> true
[06:38] <nixternal> nano from the terminal
[06:38] <antinobody> but nano isn't as pretty
[06:38] <antinobody> though that is what I've been doing
[06:38] <Healot> Terminal X?
[06:38] <nixternal> haha...terminal isn't supposed to be pretty ;)
[06:39] <antinobody> no, but life is
[06:39] <fiyawerx> whoa
[06:39] <fiyawerx> Hobbsee: trying all my jacks i found one thats working
[06:39] <fiyawerx> Hobbsee: dunno why this one is tho its not my headphone jack
[06:39] <fiyawerx> but its a start
[06:40] <Hobbsee> fiyawerx: indeed.  try muting the jacks that arent working.
[06:40] <fiyawerx> Hobbsee: wierd, in alsamixer, its my PCM
[06:40] <Hobbsee> yeah, thatd be right
[06:40] <fiyawerx> Hobbsee: oh, multiple lines in alsamixer are affecting it
[06:40] <Hobbsee> PCM must be up for anything to work
[06:41] <inteliwasp> nixternal:  shuld i continue to follow the website you sent me?
[06:41] <fiyawerx> ugh
[06:41] <fiyawerx> its coming out of my front mic jack
[06:41] <fiyawerx> lmao
[06:42] <fiyawerx> altho i think this sound card is wierd too
[06:42] <fiyawerx> in windows when i plug something into oneo f the front jacks
[06:42] <fiyawerx> i can turn it into whatever i want, input or output, in the program
[06:42] <nixternal> inteliwasp: you can try it...did you get your drivers from agere's website?
[06:42] <nixternal> doing the ./configure ./build ./install method?
[06:42] <inteliwasp> yes the .17 will work
[06:42] <Hobbsee> fiyawerx: haha, okay then...
[06:43] <inteliwasp> do i need the pcmcia-cs thing?
[06:43] <Healot> if you have a laptop with PC card slot, yes
[06:43] <Healot> else No
[06:44] <inteliwasp> can i get them tru adept?
[06:47] <Healot> yeah through the repos using your favorite package manager, $0.00 :)
[06:52] <nixternal_> nice power glitch
[06:53] <oomph_> whats a good personal firewall for kubuntu?
[06:53] <dr_willis> linux has firewalling built in.
[06:53] <Hawkwind> IpKungFu
[06:53] <dr_willis> now what to use to configure it. is the question. :P
[06:53] <oomph_> yeah but a gui :)
[06:53] <dr_willis> if you really need to bother  with it - is another question
[06:54] <dr_willis> whats that dog one.. i forget.. messed with it  - but ddent gain anything from using it.
[06:54] <dr_willis> guarddog?
[06:54] <inteliwasp> when i do the ./config ./build and ./install.... do i do sudo?
[06:55] <dr_willis> ./install? thats new to me
[06:55] <dr_willis> what program is doing that
[06:55] <nixternal> i would do sudo on the ./install
[06:55] <MNK2_> Depends where you install to
[06:55] <MNK2_> But usually since it puts it in system folders you need sudo
[06:55] <nixternal> wifi driver binaries from agere
[06:55] <oomph_> ill look around some
[06:56] <oomph_> whats that app running on this dudes desktop on the left? http://www.linuxkungfu.org/images/shots/?image=8
[06:56] <MNK2_> hmm not good, the skype package refuses to startup up my Kubuntu desktop
[06:57] <inteliwasp> um... no configure file...
[06:57] <oomph_> mnk2 how did you install skype?
[06:57] <MNK2_> Looks like a riced up version of gkrellm
[06:57] <oomph_> i added the repository and did an apt-get
[06:57] <oomph_> worked well
[06:57] <nixternal> inteliwasp: if that doesn't work for you...maybe try to use a windows driver and ndiswrapper...check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Ndiswrapper
[06:57] <MNK2_> Hmm something like    add http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian stable non-free
[06:57] <MNK2_> apt-get update; apt-get install skype
[06:58] <MNK2_> Maybe I need to pull from testing or unstable?
[06:58] <inteliwasp> no joy on that, i tried
[06:58] <oomph_> hrm let me check mine
[06:59] <MNK2_> Although I seriously goofed up my Ubuntu install since I tried adding some sorta complex LVM configuration and the desktop installer crashed.. multiple times on me :(
[06:59] <oomph_> http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/
[06:59] <inteliwasp> shall i go on with the install?
[06:59] <oomph_> thats my entry
[06:59] <oomph_> mnkk2 did you restart kde?
[06:59] <oomph_> i think i had to
[07:02] <nixternal> inteliwasp: type>  # cardctl ident
[07:02] <inteliwasp> crud....it's built for 2.4.X kernals.....
[07:02] <nixternal> what does it say
[07:02] <inteliwasp> 1 sec
[07:02] <nixternal> everything on that card seems to be be 2.4 kernels
[07:03] <inteliwasp> product info: "Agere Systems", "Wireless PC Card Model 0111", "", ""       thats one line
[07:05] <inteliwasp> i mean 1 of the lines
[07:05] <nixternal> that is the one i wanted to see
[07:05] <nixternal> lspci
[07:05] <nixternal> what is your output?
[07:05] <nixternal> don't paste it...
[07:05] <inteliwasp> pastebin?
[07:06] <pickledbushman> anyone here know whats going on re linux and gaming? i wanna write a letter to mark shuttleworth
[07:06] <nixternal> sure
[07:07] <pickledbushman> kde is a better desktop than MS options, no doubt about it
[07:07] <Healot> not really
[07:07] <pickledbushman> except in gaming inmho
[07:07] <Healot> both have different learning curves.
[07:08] <pickledbushman> i started with MS with dos3.0, through  win3.0 up till xp and a bit of vista
[07:08] <pickledbushman> ive been kubuntu for about of month
[07:08] <pickledbushman> i can go back
[07:08] <pickledbushman> except for the games
[07:08] <Healot> up to you really which OS you prefer to use
[07:08] <pickledbushman> im going for the free pretty one
[07:08] <oomph_> yeah kde is great
[07:09] <Healot> it's the solution given by the OS is important, not the company -
[07:09] <oomph_> i much prefer it over gnome
[07:09] <pickledbushman> but thats beside the point, linux hasnt had a competible desktop for end users until rently
[07:09] <pickledbushman> this is all facors, including ease of use and support
[07:10] <pickledbushman> if it can get the gaming community it would own vista.
[07:10] <inteliwasp> nixternal:  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/728473
[07:16] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> swiftfox anyone?
[07:17] <inteliwasp> nixternal:  ?
[07:17] <word> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: swift fox o.O
[07:17] <nixternal> inteliwasp: which version of the driver did you dl?
[07:17] <inteliwasp> the .17
[07:17] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> word: i need help for the dependencies
[07:18] <nixternal> why not the .22?
[07:18] <inteliwasp> i read the readme, it was compatable with my card
[07:18] <inteliwasp> .22 was for prizim2 chipsets
[07:18] <nixternal> ahh
[07:18] <nixternal> ok
[07:19] <inteliwasp> i mean hermies
[07:19] <nixternal> 7.18?
[07:19] <nixternal> i don't see .17
[07:19] <inteliwasp> ... 1 sec
[07:19] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> word: have you installed it lately?
[07:19] <inteliwasp> http://www.agere.com/mobility/wireless_lan_drivers.html
[07:20] <inteliwasp> no i have not yet
[07:20] <word> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: No idea what it is what does sudo apt-get -f install want to do?
[07:20] <nixternal> thats where im at
[07:20] <nixternal> i see Linux LKM Wireless Driver Source Code, Version 7.18 and Version 7.22
[07:20] <inteliwasp> nm i thought n0cturnal was speaking to me
[07:20] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> word: its not in repos ,  -f doesnt show any missing packages
[07:21] <inteliwasp> 18 then.... my brain is wasted...
[07:22] <DaSkreech> pickledbushman: Do you have a solution?
[07:23] <pickledbushman> get mark to buy out cedega, and invest a small fortune in developing it
[07:24] <Melchiorre> lol
[07:24] <Melchiorre> I'd support that ;)
[07:24] <nixternal> inteliwasp: have you tried installing the driver via ndiswrapper?
[07:24] <nixternal> the 2.18 is for hte 2.4 kernel only..so that is why you can't build against your setup
[07:24] <jake> im getting an error on one package while trying to dist-upgrade, how can i skip that specific one?
[07:24] <nixternal> 2.22 doesn't support your card
[07:24] <inteliwasp> the windoze drive is fugered beyond all hope by proxim
[07:25] <nixternal> that is retarded..but agere quit supporting that card..that is the reason there is no 2.6 kernel support for it, unless you felt like hacking it in..which all the forums i have read have horrible info
[07:25] <pickledbushman> his got the money, and its in his best interests. he gets the gamers, he will win the desktop war, and not only be knowing for going into space, but for topppling the MS stranglehold
[07:25] <nixternal> how far can you kick that card you think? ;)
[07:25] <inteliwasp> sadly i have no money to buy a new card
[07:26] <nixternal> you and i both
[07:26] <nixternal> do you have any network cards you can use with it?
[07:26] <inteliwasp> nope
[07:26] <nixternal> i found a website forum that tells how they got it to work with the 2.6 kernel supposedly..but that site is no longer active...great
[07:27] <nixternal> you can scour google forever..but i don't know how good your chances will be
[07:27] <inteliwasp> google cache?
[07:28] <jake> can anyone help me find out how to skip a package on dist-upgrade?
[07:28] <jake> 1 package is failin
[07:29] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> upgrade manually skipping the package
[07:30] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> means  , from adept select all the updates besidea tht package
[07:31] <nixternal> proxim 8420 gold linux   << gives you only 4,590 hits ;)
[07:33] <nixternal> rsibreak says it is time for me to take a break
[07:33] <nixternal> bbiaf
[07:33] <jake> anyway to do it via command line?
[07:33] <aeon17x> ooh, kde 3.53 are available a month ago
[07:33] <aeon17x> I didn't notice that... >_>
[07:36] <inteliwasp> any tips on converting the drivers to 2.6?
[07:42] <Healot> cab you make tiramisu, ChefWill?
[07:42] <ChefWill> if i had a desire to
[07:43] <unix_infidel> all the whipping and the sugar...fillup on some damn good pasta and go to bed like a good fatty.
[07:44] <negocio> ok, i have a problem
[07:44] <negocio> let me tell
[07:44] <MNK2_> Restart KDE... that I've not done.  I'll do that in a second.. I'm rebuilding my Gentoo partition right now so can't restart  :(
[07:44] <negocio> i have a prices list make
[07:44] <negocio> in foxpro for DOS
[07:45] <negocio> how can i make running in kubuntu in a easy way
[07:45] <negocio> ?
[07:45] <negocio> please help
[07:46] <MNK2_> You could always install a DOS emulator like dosbox or dosemu and run foxpro inside that emulator
[07:46] <negocio> ok
[07:47] <negocio> i try dosemu
[07:47] <negocio> but i have tons of errors
[07:47] <negocio> im noob
[07:47] <negocio> but i want to use kubuntu
[07:47] <negocio> i like it
[07:47] <MNK2_> Afraid I don't know dosemu well but the general process is
[07:47] <MNK2_> 1. Stare at error message
[07:47] <MNK2_> 2. Think real hard what the error message is supposed to be telling you what to do
[07:47] <MNK2_> 3. Give up, and enter 'error message' in Google
[07:47] <negocio> where do i get dosbox?
[07:47] <jake> lol
[07:48] <MNK2_> 4. Pray it works :0
[07:48] <negocio> i have just five hours to get it work
[07:48] <MNK2_> Try apt-get install dosbox at the command line or search for dosbox in aptitude
[07:48] <MNK2_> or is it synaptic?  I get confused on names
[07:48] <jake> either or
[07:48] <negocio> i have adept
[07:48] <linux_galore> negocio: your not going to learn a whole new OS in a few hours
[07:48] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> anyone experienced with swiftfox?
[07:49] <negocio> i have use kubuntu for a week
[07:49] <linux_galore> negocio: I know people who have used windows for years and still get confused
[07:49] <negocio> now im trinyng getting work the proces list
[07:49] <MNK2_> Oh duh... adept.. try putting in dosbox in the search field
[07:49] <supaaaman> kubuntu roxx0rs
[07:49] <supaaaman> im running it on vmware
[07:49] <negocio> let me try
[07:49] <negocio> how
[07:49] <MNK2_> Sorry, I'm an old time UNIX person so sometimes I ignore GUIs.. often
[07:49] <unix_infidel> MNK2_: anyone good nerd avoids gui's whenever possible.
[07:50] <negocio> can you tell me how to make working the wmplayer_?
[07:50] <MNK2_> unix:  No way, I won't give up multiple xterms.
[07:50] <unix_infidel> it makes the women at starbucks look at you funny when you use lynx for browsing :P
[07:50] <MNK2_> And X11 is a GUI albeit a crappy one.
[07:50] <MNK2_> But you can't read any of the fun sites in Lynx  :(
[07:50] <negocio> please help
[07:50] <linux_galore> negocio: use easyubuntu to install the win32 codecs and flash/java etc
[07:50] <MNK2_> What is mplayer_ ?
[07:50] <unix_infidel> MNK2_: one day someone will make a cli browser that ssl
[07:50] <negocio> sorry
[07:50] <MNK2_> unix:  That would be nice.. very nice
[07:50] <negocio> vmware
[07:51] <unix_infidel> MNK2_: its a multi-purpose media player
[07:51] <MNK2_> unix:  And most likely... I'll never figure out the keybindings unless I write it myself.
[07:51] <MNK2_> ah, I only know mplayer
[07:51] <linux_galore> why would you use mplayer when kaffeine works to well
[07:51] <unix_infidel> MNK2_: here's a tip.  use nick completion. (eg: unix[then presstab] )
[07:51] <negocio> can i run the dos prices list based on foxpro with vmware?
[07:51] <linux_galore> I find the mplayer engine sooooooooooooo slow
[07:52] <linux_galore> kaffeine with xine is just fast
[07:52] <negocio> im noob, can you be more explain
[07:52] <MNK2_> unix: That'd be too convenient  :-P
[07:52] <supaaaman> umm, i used automatix to install w32
[07:52] <supaaaman> dos on vmware?
[07:53] <supaaaman> im sure u can
[07:53] <negocio> ok
[07:53] <supaaaman> but get the paid ver
[07:53] <unix_infidel> you can get freedos.
[07:53] <linux_galore> negocio: you can open "anything" in Linux if you have the right software installed you dont need anything from windows
[07:53] <negocio> can you guide me?
[07:53] <unix_infidel> its much better imho.
[07:53] <supaaaman> the one i have (office gave it to me) has support for win, linux etc
[07:53] <supaaaman> i can even run a non listed OS off it
[07:53] <negocio> i dont need player, sorry i confused with vmware
[07:53] <supaaaman> but performance wouldnt that great
[07:53] <MNK2_> Linux can't play Worlds of Warcraft at acceptable frame rates  :)
[07:53] <linux_galore> negocio: if your trying to use vmware to open a file it means your not looking or asking the right questions
[07:54] <negocio> ok
[07:54] <negocio> lets start for the begining
[07:54] <poningru> negocio: what are you trying to do?
[07:54] <negocio> here is my question and please help me
[07:54] <supaaaman> MNK2_: i think it depends on the fps supported by ur grafx card no?
[07:54] <linux_galore> negocio: let me put it this way, I dont use any windows software at home or work and I open everything, even wma stuff
[07:55] <negocio> i have a prices list that works in DOS based in Foxpro, how can i make working in kubuntu
[07:55] <MNK2_> And if your graphics card is fully supported without getting 'break all other lib'.tar.gz  :)
[07:55] <poningru> foxpro?
[07:55] <poningru> hold on
[07:55] <unix_infidel> negocio: install dos on vmware or use freedos.
[07:55] <negocio> ok thanks
[07:55] <supaaaman> negocio:  u need an emulator for Dos that works on linux
[07:55] <linux_galore> negocio: so you need something that open a foxpro file
[07:55] <negocio> how can i install dos on vmware?
[07:55] <unix_infidel> linux_galore: if i'm assuming correctly, foxpro is the program that runs on DOS.
[07:56] <unix_infidel> negocio: vmware is a program, just like on windows.
[07:56] <negocio> yes foxpro that the one runing in DOS
[07:56] <MNK2_> Last time I tried getting Quicktime streaming media to work properly in Linux that was a pita
[07:56] <supaaaman> negocio: u dont need to install dos on vmware, it supports it by default
[07:56] <negocio> ok
[07:56] <linux_galore> though foxpro was dead lol
[07:56] <negocio> can you guide me
[07:56] <linux_galore> thought
[07:56] <negocio> my job depends on its
[07:56] <supaaaman> negocio:  u just have to create a virtual machine for dos (it can be done with file-->new)
[07:56] <negocio> ok wait me a minute
[07:56] <linux_galore> negocio: so your job deopends on a piece of bad software lol
[07:57] <negocio> yes
[07:57] <supaaaman> lol@ linux_galore
[07:57] <negocio> supaaaaman
[07:57] <supaaaman> yo
[07:57] <negocio> tell me more please
[07:57] <linux_galore> negocio: if my job depended on 1 piece of bad softare i would run for the door so fast because the company is daft and might forget to pay me for 3 weeks
[07:58] <supaaaman> listen, ive not run Vmware on kubuntu. Ive done it on windows , but i suppose the system runs the same way
[07:58] <negocio> its my company
[07:58] <negocio> an small one
[07:58] <supaaaman> you have to create a virtual machine (host)
[07:58] <negocio> how
[07:58] <supaaaman> the virtual machine runs inside a window on ur desktop
[07:58] <negocio> i dont know
[07:58] <supaaaman> it can support any operating syste,
[07:58] <linux_galore> negocio: have you though about using another tool and just moving the data over
[07:58] <linux_galore> thought*
[07:58] <negocio> i have wine
[07:58] <supaaaman> well in windows, u just say file-->new--> virtual machine
[07:59] <negocio> but doesnt work
[07:59] <supaaaman> and then select the OS and set aside how much RAM u want to provide it
[07:59] <linux_galore> negocio: forget foxpro, think "is there a Linux app that does the same job"  your digging a hole
[07:59] <MNK2_> Wine is a Win32 compatibility layer.  If you're Foxpro is running on straight DOS, fat chance that will work with Wine
[07:59] <negocio> supaman
[07:59] <negocio> wait me a minute
[07:59] <supaaaman> sure thing bro
[07:59] <MNK2_> linux_galore: Maybe he needs to get all the data off of there.  Give him a break  :)  Let him get access to his data then bug hiim to migrate  ;)
[08:00] <supaaaman> doesnt adept have a virtual machhine?
[08:00] <negocio> do you speak spnish?
[08:00] <supaaaman> nope
[08:00] <negocio> ok
[08:00] <negocio> wait me please
[08:00] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> anyone experienced with swiftfox?
[08:00] <supaaaman> aight bro
[08:00] <jiger> hello. does anyone know why data dvd is not usable on dapper?
[08:01] <linux_galore> ha ha, just read if you run foxpro your infringing the license
[08:01] <linux_galore> if you try to run it under Linux
[08:02] <jiger> my machine just hangs for eternity
[08:02] <MNK2_> linux_galore: That's bad.
[08:02] <MNK2_> jiger:  Did you see if dmesg or if /var/log/messages said anything useful?
[08:02] <supaaaman> negocio: use DosBox
[08:02] <negocio> i back in a minute
[08:02] <negocio> wait me please
[08:02] <supaaaman> its a dos emulator
[08:02] <supaaaman> tyt
[08:03] <supaaaman> hows everyone else doin today?
[08:03] <MNK2_> Just chilling with my dapper install
[08:03] <MNK2_> And thinking of a chicken and egg situation
[08:03] <supaaaman> wikked
[08:03] <supaaaman> heh
[08:03] <MNK2_> I have a laptop with a 802.11b/g card and that's it's only method to access the Internet
[08:03] <supaaaman> :D
[08:03] <MNK2_> I'm pretty sure I need ndis<mumble> to get it running
[08:04] <jiger> MNK2_: No chance coz I mount the dvd as iso9660 then try to list sometimes the file listing goes thru
[08:04] <MNK2_> But I need the package which is easily available via the 'Net
[08:04] <jiger> MNK2_ but the moment u try to play something say mp3s on it, the machine freezes
[08:04] <MNK2_> Whee I'm back to 1999 Linux fun  :)  To get the info to solve this I need internet access. but the problem is I'm having INternet access issues.
[08:04] <jiger> MNK2_ : only way out it to hot boot
[08:04] <linux_galore> theres actually a howto page on moving your foxpro stuff to Linux -> http://recital.com/index.htm?/articles/cm/foxproMigration/foxpro2linux.htm&mainFrame
[08:04] <supaaaman> negocio isnt around..
[08:05] <MNK2_> Does the GUI freeze or is the CLI available?
[08:05] <Ademan> anyone in here use inkscape?
[08:05] <supaaaman> gotta jump out see yall in a  bit
[08:05] <MNK2_> Hmm if X11 is still responding you can hit something like CTRL-ALT-F2 to get to a console and take a look
[08:05] <linux_galore> yeah i know but it shows you if you "google" it there are native solutions
[08:06] <jiger> MNK2_: Nothing works. simply press the reboot button. thats the only way out
[08:06] <MNK2_> SSH?
[08:06] <MNK2_> Got another machine handy?
[08:06] <jiger> MNK2_: nope
[08:06] <MNK2_> Tricky...   Delete your tracks...   harumph
[08:09] <jiger> MNK2_: These DVDs were working fine in breezy and currently work absolutely fine in Windows
[08:10] <MNK2_> jiger:  I don't know your exact answer to the problem.  Perhaps you're not feeding the proper obscure mount option to the DVD like --dont-screw-me-right-now.  Either way you need to find some way to get some debugging messages to track it down further.
[08:10] <MNK2_> Yeah, tons of crap 'works fine' under Windoze.
[08:10] <jiger> MNK2_: Whats more when I wrote the first dvd after installing dapper, k3b wrote it at 0.5 kb/s that took me 2 hrs to complete writting
[08:10] <MNK2_> That doesn't mean much when you're running Linux  :)   I have piles of Japanese-made devices here that 'work fine' under Windoze.  Fat chance I get them to work under Linux without fidning some driver off of a japanese dev that needs to patch the kernel 7 times over.
[08:11] <MNK2_> Can always try grabbing the Breezy kernel and seeing if it's kernel related.   I really don't have the 'here's the answer' question.   Going to be trial and error debugging (my least favorite)
[08:11] <jiger> MNK2_: THe point is if it runs fine under windows, then hardware is not faulty. It has to be something wrong in dapper. I care less if it is kubuntus problem, ubuntu or linux
[08:11] <MNK2_> Or try another distro and see if it works properly... if you have a breezy box, pop it in there and look at ITS debug messages
[08:12] <MNK2_> I didn't say your hardware is faulty.  I said try to find error messages to find what is going wrong.
[08:13] <jiger> thats the problem. the machine freezees, I doubt anything can work after that. I doubt even logging wud work. lets see
[08:14] <kane_> jiger: during installation ?
[08:14] <jiger> MNK2_: Could it be due to that silly cannot load genrtc.jko module error on boot?
[08:14] <jiger> kane_: No running dapper system
[08:14] <kane_> oh ok
[08:15] <jiger> the kdm, stops @Mounting root filesystem and then proceeds under console mode
[08:17] <unix_infidel> Song of the Hour: Telepopmusik - Hollywood On my Toothpaste
[08:18] <lola> anyone can help me solve xine problems ?
[08:18] <lola> i can play video in xine..but no sound ..
[08:18] <lola> and i already install libmad0
[08:19] <Healot> media typE?
[08:19] <Healot> !mp3
[08:19] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[08:19] <bobstro> hmm. is there something to re-build the menus? i ran kappfinder, but i don't have the debian submenu, or are kmail and knode present.
[08:22] <kane_> lola: this just may help you ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=136306&postcount=2
[08:23] <Bennner> hi everyone, any apache user who could give a little help
[08:23] <oomph_> anyone know if there is a linux client for voipbuster?
[08:26] <Lynoure> Bennner: What kind of help you need?
[08:27] <Lynoure> Bennner: (not saying anything about being able to give it... just boke up, and haven't even had breakfast yet :) )
[08:29] <Bennner> Lynoure: i have installed apache, but unlike windows, there's no gui interface, so i edited the conf.d/default and ports.conf but no way to make it run, is it a command to start it? with the new edited files
[08:30] <Bennner> oups i mean /sites-available instead of conf.d
[08:31] <NKjoep> hi ppl
[08:31] <Melchiorre> hey
[08:31] <NKjoep> hay ;D
[08:32] <Melchiorre> :P
[08:33] <NKjoep> ^_^
[08:33] <NKjoep> what's up?
[08:33] <NKjoep> what's up with your kubuntu?
[08:35] <lola> what player you use for playing dat files ?
[08:35] <lola> xine or mplayer ?
[08:36] <lola> my xine problems with audio codec MPEG LAYER 2/3
[08:36] <Healot> DAT? as in VideoCD MPEG-1 video?
[08:36] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> anyone experienced with swiftfox?
[08:36] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodes
[08:36] <ubotu> Package libxine-extracodes does not exist in dapper
[08:36] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[08:36] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[08:37] <NKjoep> uhm
[08:37] <NKjoep> i have got problems with every video
[08:37] <NKjoep> they go slow
[08:40] <Healot> NKjoep: tell us what media player, what kind of file, pc spec maybe (or maybe not)?
[08:44] <NKjoep> Healot: using kaffeine with xine, any video, athlon 1.2GHZ with 512 ram
[08:45] <NKjoep> video card: voodoo 5
[08:45] <NKjoep> what you want to know more?
[08:50] <|lostbyte|> This is totally weird..
[08:50] <|lostbyte|> I set my ipv6 on and i got my speed back..
[08:50] <NKjoep> _
[08:50] <|lostbyte|> SOme one pls explain ?
[08:52] <|lostbyte|> I knew it.. its dumb.. could some one give me a ipv6 ip to see if my host really supports it ?
[08:52] <|lostbyte|> I have no idea how to find one.
[08:53] <NKjoep> :\
[08:55] <unix_infidel> why is it that dapper doesnt include vim 7?
[08:55] <unix_infidel> well, let me rephrase the asinine question.
[08:56] <unix_infidel> the release date was after the vim7 release by about a week.  Is there a 3rd party source for the vim7 deb or am i gonig to have to compile.
[08:57] <unix_infidel> !vim7
[08:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about vim7
[09:01] <unix_infidel> nvm, i found the backports from debian on freshnet
[09:06] <lola> i'm desperate with my xine..cannot output a sound...
[09:06] <lola> can somebody help me.... plizzz
[09:06] <lola> i already install libmad..
[09:06] <NKjoep> lola i'm a noob... and i'm in pain with xine
[09:06] <NKjoep> :\
[09:07] <NKjoep> i have souds... but video decodificate every 2 sec
[09:07] <lowtech> unix_infidel: what's the 'gotta have' in vim 7?
[09:08] <unix_infidel> lowtech: curiousity.
[09:08] <unix_infidel> any good IT clown has it.
[09:08] <NKjoep> :P
[09:09] <unix_infidel> and if you dont, you're still running 2.4, and trotting around starbucks with your lip ring like a l33tz0r
[09:09] <lowtech> so you have no idea what's new in it?
[09:11] <unix_infidel> vern: i could look at the changelogs BEFORE i had the software installed, but that would be pointless. If i dont find anything interesting in the changelogs / new features list then i wont use it...period :P
[09:12] <bencreekmore> i am trying to use adept, and do not know how to get into "root"
[09:12] <bencreekmore> how do i assign root passwd?
[09:13] <lowtech> lost me on that, but i was just curious. i tend to look at change logs and new features list to see if its even worth the time. poeople are different.
[09:13] <NKjoep> bencreekmore: use your password account
[09:13] <unix_infidel> lowtech: hmm, i understand, that's usually how i roll if its software i need.  But i'm multitasking and i have 15minutes to spare.
[09:14] <bencreekmore> NKjoep, sorry that doesnt make any sense to me
[09:14] <lowtech> unix_infidel: lol, a whole 15 minutes?
[09:14] <bencreekmore> the installer never asked me to designate a root username or password
[09:14] <NKjoep> bencreekmore:  you wrote adept asked you a password...
[09:14] <NKjoep> there isnt a root user :)
[09:14] <bencreekmore> i cant login as root
[09:14] <bencreekmore> dont know the password.
[09:15] <unix_infidel> lowtech: if it takes any longer its not worth using now is it?
[09:15] <bencreekmore> do i have to set one first... directly after install of kubuntu?
[09:15] <NKjoep> uhm no... you have just to remember your password
[09:15] <NKjoep> forget root user
[09:16] <NKjoep> when adept ask you to log as root user... just put your own user name and its password
[09:16] <lowtech> bencreekmore: there is no root passwrd by default, but the original created user has access
[09:16] <bencreekmore> hmm
[09:16] <bencreekmore> ill try
[09:16] <_rince_> mrgn
[09:16] <NKjoep> i agree lowtech :)
[09:16] <[fadli_klate] > root password disabled. ubuntu use sudo to run any commands as root
[09:16] <NKjoep> :P
[09:16] <Hobbsee> !sudo
[09:17] <Hobbsee> ubotu: ping
[09:17] <lowtech> unix_infidel: was thinking if i only have 15 minutes free time i might find something more exciting to do :)
[09:17] <bencreekmore> thank you for the root help everyone
[09:17] <bencreekmore> i appreciate it
[09:17] <[fadli_klate] > u can configure sudo to do not ask for password when use adept
[09:17] <unix_infidel> lowtech: LOL.  i spent most of my day today playing pokemon.
[09:17] <NKjoep> there's a way to set a "desktop" keyboard shortcut ?
[09:18] <bencreekmore> fadli_klate, how do i do that?
[09:18] <[fadli_klate] > if u want more convenience but less secure desktop
[09:18] <[fadli_klate] > in the /etc/sudoers try put this
[09:19] <[fadli_klate] > %admin ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[09:19] <lowtech> exit
[09:20] <[fadli_klate] > it means anybody in admin group can run any command without prompted for passwof
[09:20] <[fadli_klate] > *password*
[09:20] <unix_infidel>  run linspire if you wanna roll like that nonsense.
[09:22] <[fadli_klate] > <bencreekmore> how do i assign root passwd?
[09:23] <[fadli_klate] > in case u want to enable root password run this
[09:23] <[fadli_klate] > # sudo password
[09:23] <[fadli_klate] > u will set the password for root
[09:23] <NKjoep> :)
[09:24] <bencreekmore> thank you:)
[09:25] <NKjoep> do you know any really good ftp client? :D
[09:25] <Andruk> firefox with fireftp
[09:26] <NKjoep> ok i'll try Andruk
[09:26] <NKjoep> ty
[09:26] <Andruk> lol, thats what i use, but i dont know what your trying to do
[09:26] <[fadli_klate] > just use u konqueror
[09:26] <[fadli_klate] > it just works
[09:27] <[fadli_klate] > ** <NKjoep>, just use ur konqueror
[09:28] <NKjoep> uhm
[09:28] <NKjoep> i'd like to have a database with passwords
[09:28] <NKjoep> and hostes
[09:28] <NKjoep> to manage few FTPs
[09:28] <pm> how to set kdm's resolution?
[09:31] <oomph_> how do i get wmv codec?
[09:31] <oomph_> having trouble loading a movie
[09:32] <unix_infidel> oomph_: sudp apt-get install w32codecs after you add certain repos...eg cipherfunk or nerim
[09:32] <unix_infidel> !cipherfunk
[09:34] <Andruk> anybody wanna help me with fstab?
[09:34] <oomph_> unix_infidel: which repos i need?
[09:35] <unix_infidel> !ask
[09:35] <unix_infidel> damn, where's the effing bot.
[09:35] <oomph_> !ask
[09:35] <GullyFoyle> heh, i went to a radio station website in konqueror and clicked "listen live" and it segfaulted. not even an error message like unsupported codec or somehing. just blew up. needs a little work i'd say.
[09:35] <[fadli_klate] > what wrong with the fstab?
[09:36] <Hobbsee> unix_infidel: server crashed.
[09:36] <Andruk> im pasting it on pastebin, gimme a sec
[09:36] <Hobbsee> [17:32]  <-- ubotu has left this server (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).
[09:40] <Andruk> http://pastebin.com/728539  is my fstab
[09:40] <unix_infidel> now time for an actual question.
[09:41] <Andruk> what i am trying to do is be able to access the ntfs partitions (hda1 and hdb1) without logging in as root
[09:41] <unix_infidel> you mean write to them or mount them?
[09:42] <Hobbsee> Andruk: pastebin.com seems to be down
[09:42] <Hobbsee> Andruk: modify this line and stick it in your fstab: "/dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       0"
[09:42] <Andruk> well, if theres a fairly decent (*very* little chance of it harming ntfs partitions) then rw, but if linux can only read, then only read
[09:42] <Hobbsee> based on which drive your ntfs partitions on
[09:42] <Hobbsee> linux can only read
[09:43] <Andruk> do i need to create the /media/windows directory?
[09:43] <[fadli_klate] > yup
[09:46] <Hobbsee> Andruk: yeah, or wherever you wnat to mount them
[09:46] <Hobbsee> !bot
[09:47] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:47] <Hobbsee> yay!
[09:48] <antinobody> !yay
[09:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about yay
[09:48] <antinobody> pssh, you're not so tough
[09:48] <NKjoep> !kde shortcut
[09:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about kde shortcut
[09:48] <NKjoep> :E
[09:49] <Andruk> i apologize, i should know this, what is the command for creating a folder?
[09:49] <antinobody> mkdir Andruk
[09:49] <NKjoep> :)
[09:49] <Andruk> ah, thanks!
[09:51] <Andruk> so, why is there /media/ and /mnt/ for mounting drives?  shouldnt i use /mnt/ with the HDDs, and /media/ for removable media?
[09:53] <unix_infidel> Andruk: its a matter of convention.
[09:54] <Andruk> so it really doesnt matter a wit, its a matter personal preference, and i could probably mount a drive in /home/drew/Desktop/hda1?
[09:54] <Andruk> cuz that would be freaking awesome...
[09:55] <unix_infidel> arafat: not it wouldnt.
[09:55] <Hobbsee> Andruk: yeah
[09:55] <unix_infidel> what you could always do it have the WINDOW MANAGER create a link to it.
[09:55] <unix_infidel> or on a system level create a symlink.
[09:55] <unix_infidel> but creating mountpoints in home directories is possible, but ill advised because of permissions.
[09:56] <Andruk> ah, gotcha
[09:56] <Andruk> damn linux is more secure than wind...
[09:57] <Andruk> *damn, linux
[09:58] <Andruk> okay, another stupid question...
[09:58] <NKjoep> !ping
[09:59] <ubotu> pong
[09:59] <NKjoep> :E
[09:59] <Andruk> so, my fstab was modified as you said, word for word.  i created the /media/windows/ dir, now how do i access the files on hda1?
[09:59] <NKjoep> we all love ubotu!
[09:59] <Andruk> sry...im not really a n00b, i swear i just havent used linux in awhile
[09:59] <[fadli_klate] > run # sudo mount /media/windows
[10:00] <NKjoep> andruk have you already mounted?
[10:00] <NKjoep> :D
[10:00] <NKjoep> [fadli_klate]  you fired me on time :P
[10:02] <[fadli_klate] > :D
[10:03] <Andruk> says it cant find /media/windows in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:03] <Andruk> thats because it didnt save...
[10:06] <Hobbsee> Andruk: use kdesu kwrite /etc/fstab - not just opening with the text edito
[10:06] <Hobbsee> r
[10:08] <Andruk> um, okay, i got it to save this time, dunno why it didnt last time
[10:10] <Andruk> mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/hda1 busy
[10:10] <Andruk> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is already mounted on /media/hda
[10:12] <Andruk> and trying to go into it it still says that i dont have enough permissions
[10:12] <oomph_> unix_infidel:  you still there?
[10:12] <oomph_> i added that one repository but cant seem to get the package you mentioned
[10:13] <oomph_> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:13] <oomph_> i went there to add Cipherfunk multimedia packages
[10:14] <Hobbsee> oomph_: cipherfunk multimedia packages will break your system.
[10:14] <oomph_> bah
[10:14] <oomph_> then how do i install w32 codecs?
[10:15] <Hobbsee> !w32codecs
[10:15] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[10:15] <Andruk> oh, and i was using kwrite to edit it...
[10:15] <linuX|Joeman1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[10:16] <oomph_> k
[10:17] <oomph_> what others break systems?
[10:17] <linuX|Joeman1> Yeah, that should help you on your way :)
[10:18] <oomph_> so add this source deb-src http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas dapper-seveas all
[10:18] <oomph_> ?
[10:19] <Andruk> so, you guys know anything else that deals with fstab?
[10:19] <Andruk> i know that knoppix gets all permissions figured out
[10:19] <Rede> !wireless
[10:20] <ubotu> Documentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[10:20] <Andruk> i can read any drive with knoppix, should i just copy part of that fstab?
[10:30] <oomph_> ok, got the updates done
[10:30] <rockin_stan|lap> can anybody tell me, what I have to do, to make kubuntu search for new network devices and write them to /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:30] <oomph_> is w32codecs the only thing i need? my player still cant play it. It looks kinda scrambled
[10:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how can i use kororaa live with KDE?
[10:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> please.... i have to leave soon :(
[10:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !kororaa
[10:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about kororaa
[10:44] <rob> install it?
[10:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> nope
[10:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i want to try kde
[10:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> not install it
[10:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i want kubuntu xgl
[10:46] <michael> hi
[10:46] <apokryphos> Tallia1Kubuntu: this is Kubuntu, not Kororaa channel.
[10:46] <apokryphos> Tallia1Kubuntu: to get Xgl setup with kubuntu, /msg ubotu xgl
[10:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i got huge troubles :(
[10:49] <rob> actually, the information on the wiki about getting xgl working with Kubuntu sucks, I ended up finding my own way
[10:49] <Nickste> hi all
[10:49] <Travis|linux> xgl = joke
[10:49] <Travis|linux> IMHO
[10:49] <Nickste> I'm having a problem installing kubuntu dapper. It loads up and almost loads the desktop, but then as it is loading icons, it just hangs. Any ideas?
[10:49] <rob> you don't want it on permanently though, its a bit unstable still
[10:51] <michael> i have problems with ati fglrx driver and ubuntu dapper on an amd64 system ... did someone get it running?
[10:52] <michael> had no problems with breezy
[10:57] <apokryphos> rob: the article the factoid links to for kubuntu users seems to have the valid information
[10:57] <apokryphos> though it's not really ideal
[10:58] <omeow> Does anyone know why this happens? http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/brokendisplay.png
[10:58] <apokryphos> setting it on kubuntu, anyhow, should be done in the exact same way as GNOME. The only difference is in making it auto-start
[10:59] <omeow> I think it may be caused because I'm using two displays and wrote my own xorg.conf that worked. I used kguidance, and it set up two displays for me, but they were too big and if my mouse cursor would be near the boundaries of the screen, it would scroll them in the direction of the border.
[11:00] <rob> apokryphos, I followed them step by step about a week ago and it didn't work at all, I ended up having to work it out for myself
[11:00] <rob> which was a bit different to what was listed
[11:00] <apokryphos> rob: which part did you have a problem with?
[11:01] <leira> i've burned an alternate CD, but failed integerity test when install, i have no CD burner here, i have to wait 2 days  to burn a new one. can i just netinstall kubuntu?
[11:01] <rob> well I ended up having to do my own .Xsession file, then killing X then running startx to get it working
[11:01] <rob> not sure which part exactly, it just didn't work at all
[11:01] <apokryphos> odd, you shouldn't have to do any of those really
[11:02] <rob> wouldn't work otherwise
[11:02] <rob> for me at least
[11:02] <apokryphos> hm, maybe I'll try to write a full detailed one on the wiki; little clearer than the instructions in that article
[11:03] <apokryphos> though it seems to have most of the info
[11:03] <rob> I think the Kubuntu specific instructions are too muddled up with the Gnome/Ubuntu instructions currently for xgl
[11:04] <michael> is there anyone who installed fglrx on amd64 without problems?
[11:04] <DrNickRiviera> how do i change what a block device like dvd points at?
[11:05] <DrNickRiviera> got 2 dvd drives and at the moment it is linked to the wrong one
[11:13] <negocio> i have a problem
[11:13] <negocio> how can i run DOS with vmware?
[11:13] <negocio> please help me
[11:13] <negocio> im noob
[11:13] <michael> did u install vmware allready?
[11:14] <negocio> how
[11:14] <negocio> michael, i download and install from adept
[11:14] <psb154_> negocio try #vmware
[11:14] <negocio> the kernel one
[11:14] <negocio> vmware?
[11:14] <michael> read the readme ;)
[11:14] <negocio> were i put #vmware?
[11:14] <Travis|linux> type /join #vmware
[11:15] <negocio> ok, but whre is the readme?
[11:17] <negocio> michael, where is the readme, can you help me please?
[11:17] <michael> hmm, i cannot remember
[11:17] <michael> but i know that u need the kernel-sources
[11:18] <negocio> i have that ones
[11:20] <michael> wait, i take a look
[11:20] <negocio> ok
[11:20] <negocio> very thanks
[11:21] <method|> why the hell cant i find kde 3.5.3 in my repos?
[11:21] <michael> do u see vmware-install.pl?
[11:22] <method|> talking to me?
[11:22] <michael> yes
[11:22] <negocio> give a minute
[11:22] <method|> no
[11:23] <michael> whats your version?
[11:23] <method|> only thing in my repos are kde 3.5.2
[11:25] <jpatrick> method|: did you add the kubuntu.org repos?
[11:25] <negocio> yes
[11:25] <negocio> vmware install was there
[11:25] <negocio> but when i try to install it tell me
[11:25] <michael> u have to run that script
[11:25] <negocio> broken (install)
[11:25] <method|> jp: nope
[11:26] <method|> i figured the new kde would be in the multiverse repos tho
[11:26] <jpatrick> No way
[11:26] <method|> jp: why not?
[11:27] <michael> can u give me more output?
 No way
 jp: why not?
[11:27] <jpatrick> method|: sorry X froze
[11:28] <jpatrick> cos multiverse is for non-free stuff
[11:28] <method|> still, i wouldnt think i should have to add repos just to get an updated version of kde
[11:28] <method|> that's bull
[11:29] <michael> i have a problem with fglrx and dapper. when i installed the latest driver from ati my xserver freeze with a black screen ... was no problem with breezy
[11:29] <jpatrick> method|: open the konsole and do: "sudo -s && echo "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && exit"
[11:29] <RawSewage> I just did a new fresh install of Kubuntu Final
[11:30] <jpatrick> RawSewage: cool
[11:30] <RawSewage> Im a Dapper veteran though
[11:30] <michael> any ideas?
[11:30] <RawSewage> I just messed up my last install
[11:31] <RawSewage> Im going to try to keep this one as clean as possible
[11:32] <method|> sudo -s && echo "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:32] <method|> eer
[11:32] <method|> jpatrick: i just did sudo -s && echo "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list because i didnt want to upgrade my entire distro
[11:32] <method|> now synaptic wont start
[11:33] <jpatrick> method|: it will just upgrade kde
[11:34] <method|> ok
[11:34] <method|> i just pasted the whole thing and it didnt do anything
[11:34] <michael> cool, ill give it a try
[11:34] <method|> just went straight to root
[11:35] <jpatrick> !pastebin
[11:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:36] <Ashex> if I were to install a pci ide controller card, would linux have any trouble detecting the new drives?
[11:37] <method|> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16356
[11:38] <jpatrick> does cat /etc/apt/sources.list show "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main" in it?
[11:38] <method|> nope
[11:39] <jpatrick> ok do: echo "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:41] <method|> done
[11:41] <jpatrick> apt-get update
[11:41] <jpatrick> apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:42] <method|> thanks
[11:46] <method|> hopefully this version of kde is better because the one that comes with kubuntu is a little slower than the one I had when i was using fedora core 5
[11:46] <method|> slower to startup i mean
[11:51] <nico8481> hi
[11:51] <dipoli> who
[11:52] <nico8481> anyone using ktorrent?
[11:53] <omeow> nico8481: The version that comes with Kubuntu Dapper is quite buggy.
[11:54] <nico8481> what is buggy about it?
[11:54] <omeow> Apparently the newest beta is better.
[11:54] <omeow> I've had upload and download problems with it. The newer version I downloaded didn't have this problem anymore.
[11:55] <omeow> What's your question about it? :)
[11:55] <nico8481> here it doesn't work at all... i mean i config'ed my firewall so that it opens the ports 6881-6889 and tried a couple of torrents after that, but they stay in "stalled" status...
[11:55] <omeow> Yeah, that's the same problem I had.
[11:55] <nico8481> hmm ok so i'll try and get the beta then :)
[11:55] <nico8481> thx
[11:55] <omeow> No problem.
[11:56] <omeow> The deb is right there on the site. Download it, right-click, select kubuntu package menu and select install.
[11:57] <nico8481> what version number is dapper? 5.10?
[11:57] <Chozabu> 6.06
[11:57] <omeow> 6.06, but you can just use that version.
[11:57] <nico8481> ok thx
[11:57] <omeow> You may get an error about a .desktop file, in that case, perform the following command via a terminal in the directory where the .deb file resides.
[11:58] <omeow> sudo dpkg --force-overwrite --install thedownloadeddepfile.deb
[11:58] <oomph__> anyone familiar with this samba error ERRnoaccess (Access denied.) SMB connection failed
[11:59] <TakeOut{u}> you haven't got the correct passsword ?
[11:59] <omeow> Perhaps your client is not authorized to connect to it?
[11:59] <oomph__> to be more specific
[11:59] <oomph__> 6745: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[11:59] <oomph__> SMB connection failed
[11:59] <TakeOut{u}> or access rights ?
[11:59] <oomph__> im pretty sure im doing it right
[11:59] <omeow> Is that error straight from the log?
[11:59] <oomph__> i can see the shares but cant mount to them nor see whats inside them
[11:59] <omeow> What's happening on the server?
[12:00] <oomph__> im trying to connect to my windows box
[12:00] <oomph__> shared files
[12:00] <oomph__> local account
[12:00] <oomph__> computername\username
[12:00] <omeow> (also, between the lines, here's the page I wrote yesterday, in case you missed it; http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/Browsers_and_Konversation)
[12:00] <TakeOut{u}> hmmm
[12:00] <TakeOut{u}> have you ticked the allow people to write to this folder
[12:00] <TakeOut{u}> in the windows sharing
[12:01] <oomph__> its got full permissions
[12:01] <oomph__> the account im using to login
[12:02] <omeow> You're right, I cannot login to my brother's share either.
[12:02] <omeow> I get the same message.
[12:02] <omeow> I know for sure the login is correct. And I can connect to it via windows.
[12:02] <omeow> using the same login
[12:02] <oomph__> hrmm
[12:04] <nico8481> omeow: hmm i should have continued to read what you typed :P figured out about the --force-overwrite the hard way in the manpages :P
[12:04] <omeow> hehe, ok. Did you get it installed?
[12:04] <nico8481> yup, on my way to try it...
[12:05] <oomph__> i can authenticate using smbclient and see the shares but cant mount em
[12:05] <omeow> It may be a good idea to enable DHT, eventhough it's still experimental. It seems to help speed things up a bit.
[12:05] <nico8481> what is it?
[12:05] <oomph__> smbclient -U username -L //computername
[12:06] <omeow> It's a sortof auto discovery thing, it finds more seeds.
[12:06] <oomph__> that command works for me but mounting does not
[12:06] <nico8481> what's strange too is the timeit takes when you click on "select none" when it asks you which files you want to download
[12:06] <omeow> nico8481: http://www.answers.com/topic/distributed-hash-table
[12:07] <nico8481> shouldn't be so long to set whatever variables/arrays it uses to store the boolean
[12:08] <RawSewage> !ipv6
[12:08] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[12:08] <RawSewage> dont you believe in UFOs
[12:09] <omeow> Hm, not sure yet what's causing it, oomph__.
[12:10] <nico8481> omeow: still stalled :(
[12:11] <nico8481> although now the tracker status is OK while it was "unreachable" with the previous version of ktorrent
[12:11] <nico8481> oops, it's unreachable too now :)
[12:13] <omeow> Hm, I'll give that a try too then.
[12:13] <omeow> You could also use Opera 9 to download torrents. http://opera.com/ (like a sort of last resort, or to check if you can download torrents with a different client.)
[12:14] <Style_CHM> ktorrent?
[12:14] <Style_CHM> thats what I use on kubuntu anyway
[12:14] <oomph__> ktorrent is great
[12:15] <omeow> When it download stuff, yeah. =P
[12:15] <omeow> I'm tempted to try utorrent via wine.
[12:15] <nico8481> omeow: to you have to share some files or something prior to being able to download?
[12:16] <omeow> I don't know for sure.
[12:16] <omeow> My download just started. :)
[12:16] <omeow> 0.4KB/s though!
[12:16] <WB|Pascal> hallo leute
[12:16] <WB|Pascal> hab n prob mit kubuntu dapper
[12:16] <WB|Pascal> :(
[12:16] <omeow> allo ule
[12:16] <WB|Pascal> is jemand da?
[12:16] <omeow> wie gehts?!
[12:16] <oomph__> do you know how to disable opera from downloading torrents?
[12:17] <WB|Pascal> ?
[12:17] <omeow> oomph__: Yeah, I do. Go into settings => advanced => downloads => uncheck Hide File types opened with Opera and find torrent in that list. Then click Edit.
[12:17] <oomph__> ok
[12:19] <omeow> Hmpf, I thought ktorrent's latest beta worked decently, but even with a file that has loads of seeds, it still only downloads at a rate of something below 1KB/s.
[12:20] <oomph__> hrmm
[12:20] <oomph__> kotorrent was working well for me
[12:21] <simon__> works fine 4 me
[12:24] <omeow> Are you two behind a firewall?
[12:25] <Andruk> Anybody know how to install JRE 1.5 or later?
[12:26] <negocio> how to install dosbox in kubuntu?
[12:26] <oomph__> yes, im behind a firewall
[12:26] <omeow> Did you forward or open any ports to make ktorrent work properly?
[12:26] <tuxrobot> hi eXCeSS
[12:27] <oomph__> nope
[12:28] <_arafat> Andruk: it's in the reps... sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[12:29] <Andruk> thx
[12:30] <Andruk> it says it couldnt find it
[12:31] <Andruk> uh, sry, it says it couldnt find the package
[12:32] <Andruk> is there a repository i should add to my etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:33] <omeow> nico8481: I had to forward a port to make ktorrent download stuff.
[12:34] <squilla> Hi guys. Anyone mind using firefox on www.wulfmorgenthaler.com please? If I try open another site while it's loading firefox hangs or crashes and has to be killed from the command line
[12:36] <Chozabu> squilla: seems ok to me, i dont have flash atm tho
[12:37] <nico8481> omeow: what do you mean by "forward"? open it in your firewall?
[12:37] <nico8481> omeow: oh ok, it just started downloading... so obviously it was a problem of file availability... :)
[12:37] <nico8481> thx for help anyway
[12:38] <omeow> Ok.
[12:38] <nico8481> omeow: was that what you meant by "forward"?
[12:39] <omeow> Nah, I use a router and I had to point the ports towards this client to make it download stuff.
[12:39] <omeow> That's called port forwarding.
[12:39] <Travis|linux> For help in becoming connectable go to http://www.portforward.com/networking/staticip.htm & http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm
[12:39] <nico8481> yup that's what i meant by "open it in the firewall" :-)
[12:40] <nico8481> so... NAT'ing the port :-)
[12:40] <squilla> Chozabu: thanks :-(
[12:40] <nico8481> although it might be PAT rather than NAT
[12:41] <nico8481> never really got which is which
[12:41] <omeow> Not really.
[12:41] <omeow> You translate a specific network address to another one.
[12:42] <nico8481> yup NAT.. the port stays the same so it's not "translated"
[12:44] <gdolf> hi
[12:47] <Chozabu> woah
[12:47] <Chozabu> aptitude is rather cool
[12:47] <Chozabu> it did get rid of a couplea things i wanted, but i reinstalled em, and it removed a goog gig of things i didnt want
[12:48] <RawSewage> !refresh
[12:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about refresh
[12:48] <RawSewage> !refreshrate
[12:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about refreshrate
[12:48] <RawSewage> !monitor
[12:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about monitor
[12:48] <gdolf> !hi
[12:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about hi
[12:48] <RawSewage> !anything
[12:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything
[12:49] <Hobbsee> !msgthebot
[12:49] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[12:49] <RawSewage> what
[12:49] <RawSewage> oh
[12:49] <TakeOut{u}> lol
[12:56] <RawSewage> how do I import book marks from a html file
[12:57] <Hobbsee> RawSewage: which apP?
[12:57] <RawSewage> Konqueror
[12:57] <RawSewage> I exported them to HTML
[12:57] <RawSewage> now theres no IMPORT from HTML
[12:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[12:59] <RawSewage> weird
[01:00] <RawSewage> oh well, no big deal
[01:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Does someone know where the wallpapers are stored?
[01:00] <Lynoure> RawSewage: There are tools to convert html to xbel and viceversa, I'm sure, just cannot remember names
[01:00] <nico8481> RawSewage: bookmarks>edit then File>import
[01:00] <jpatrick>  /usr/share/wallpapers
[01:01] <RawSewage> ok ty
[01:01] <RawSewage> I guess  have to find the tool
[01:01] <nico8481> what tool?
[01:01] <Lynoure> RawSewage: o, nico told you already the solution
[01:01] <RawSewage> No
[01:01] <Lynoure> RawSewage: iirc, netscape bookmarks are in html
[01:01] <RawSewage> I know, but it didnt work
[01:01] <nico8481> just select "import from <whatever browser you used to export the html file>"
[01:02] <RawSewage> I exported with Konq
[01:02] <RawSewage> look at Export
[01:02] <RawSewage> thers Export to HTML
[01:02] <RawSewage> but no IMPORT from HTML
[01:02] <MilhousePunkRock> Thx jpatrick, but the one I added from KDE look isn't there...
[01:03] <Lynoure> RawSewage: the netscape import should work for what you have... but you tried it?
[01:03] <RawSewage> I'll try again
[01:04] <nico8481> RawSewage: what happens if you select "import from mozilla" then select the html file?
[01:04] <jpatrick> MilhousePunkRock: Iy should be somewhere saved (probably in your /home folder)
[01:04] <RawSewage> no, I need the converter tool
[01:04] <RawSewage> it's no big deal
[01:04] <RawSewage> I didnt have that many bookmarks
[01:04] <MilhousePunkRock> ok, I'll look there
[01:04] <Lynoure> nico8481: hmm, seems it does not let one select a file :(
[01:05] <RawSewage> I tried the Mozilla
[01:05] <RawSewage> that one has HTML, but it didnt work
[01:05] <nico8481> Lynoure: yes it does
[01:05] <Lynoure> RawSewage: If you don't have many, you can open a html file in the browser and clikc on Bookmark on each of those.
[01:05] <Lynoure> nico8481: didn't on mine, just now
[01:05] <RawSewage> thats what Im doing
[01:05] <nico8481> RawSewage: then i only see this trick: start firefox, import in it, then re-export to a new html, then "import from mozilla" in konq :o)
[01:06] <nico8481> but well there should be a simpler way :p
[01:06] <Lynoure> nico8481: import Mozilla does ask for file, but import netscape didn't
[01:06] <nico8481> oh
[01:07] <Lynoure> Oh well, I seem to have pretty much abandoned my bookmarks on computer switch... Makes me feel light :)
[01:08] <RawSewage> Im not installing Firefox
[01:08] <RawSewage> I like Konqueror
[01:08] <RawSewage> I like Firefox too
[01:08] <Travis|linux> to each their own
[01:08] <Travis|linux> konqueror doesn't work on some pages
[01:09] <RawSewage> like what
[01:09] <RawSewage> you just have to ID yourself as FF
[01:09] <RawSewage> and it will probably work
[01:09] <|lostbyte|> Travis|linux, Example ?
[01:09] <nico8481> ok so just set the html file as your homepage and open your bookmarks from there ;-)
[01:09] <nico8481> hehe
[01:09] <RawSewage> lol
[01:09] <Travis|linux> well.. totally kill well.. gmail for one
[01:10] <RawSewage> Gmail works
[01:10] <Travis|linux> "For a better Gmail experience, use a fully supported browser."
[01:10] <MilhousePunkRock> jpatrick, it's not there... Does it change the filename maybe?
[01:10] <Travis|linux> thats what I get
[01:10] <RawSewage> you just have to tell Gmail that youre FF
[01:10] <Travis|linux> can I just tell it to lie all the time?
[01:10] <nico8481> my provider's webmail didn't work with konq
[01:11] <nico8481> well it half-worked but i couldn't logout
[01:11] <nico8481> while it works perfectly with firefox
[01:11] <syl> hi
[01:11] <RawSewage> you have to ID yourself as FF at some places
[01:11] <gdolf> hi
[01:11] <g-henna> hi everyone
[01:12] <g-henna> i'm on kubuntu dapper and i want to adjust the keyboard key-pressed-repeat-rate
[01:12] <RawSewage> Travis|linux, yes, go to the Preferesnces
[01:12] <RawSewage> and Browser ID
[01:12] <RawSewage> interesting
[01:12] <nico8481> the logout think called javascript... maybe that's what didn't work with konq...
[01:12] <nico8481> thing
[01:12] <g-henna> it is set to 25 hits/sec in kcontrol, but when i change it, commit changes and reopen the window, it is reset to 25
[01:12] <RawSewage> it looks like Dapper Final already added GMail
[01:13] <g-henna> so where can i adjust this? right now, it's almost faster if i hit the key several times manually than to leave it pressed
[01:14] <chx> how could I make Linux reread the /etc/group while I am logged in? (i changed it via sudo)
[01:15] <nico8481> don't need to reread it
[01:15] <nico8481> if you changed added the user you're logged with to a new group, you just have to logout/logon
[01:16] <chx> that's what I would _really_ like to avoid
[01:16] <nico8481> or start a new term (but the change will only be active in that term)
[01:16] <chx> I tried a new term
[01:16] <nico8481> doesn't work?
[01:16] <chx> and still get permission denied from fusermount:
[01:16] <chx> -rwsr-xr-- 1 root fuse 18328 2006-05-11 19:45 /usr/bin/fusermount
[01:17] <nico8481> does "id" show the new group?
[01:17] <chx> no
[01:18] <Travis|linux> RawSewage: I see nothing to adjust the browser setting for all websites.. I only see stuff to adjust it per page
[01:18] <g-henna> is there any command to set this keyboard-key-pressed-repeat-rate with xset??-commands?
[01:19] <chx> so, I have fuse:x:113:chx , started new term and yet I id -Gn does not list this group
[01:19] <nico8481> chx: if you need to do a "one shot" operation you could hit ctrl+alt+f2 to login again in CLI (then it should re-read it i think) then come back to X with alt-f7
[01:19] <chx> nico8481: i am stupid to not think of that
[01:20] <nico8481> but to be "system-wide" part of the new group i'm afraid you need to restart X at least (or maybe just logout/login from KDE but i'm not sure)
[01:20] <RawSewage> Travis|linux, well, the real  Konqueror settings make it easier.  for some reason , Kubuntu removed a lot of Konqueror features
[01:21] <RawSewage> You can restore the default settings
[01:21] <RawSewage> I dont know if that has a global FF setting though
[01:21] <kristian> Someone from norway here? :)
[01:25] <RawSewage> well, the thing about Kubuntu/Linux is...
[01:26] <RawSewage> thers almost ALWAYS a fix for something you dont like
[01:26] <RawSewage> it's all configurable
[01:26] <MilhousePunkRock> Isn't that _the_ advantage of Linux in general, RawSewage? Freedom of choice...
[01:26] <Hobbsee> kristian: yeah, a few people, i think.  some of the devs are
[01:27] <chx> nico8481: thanks, it worked nice
[01:27] <RawSewage> Freedom from Microsoft
[01:28] <slow-aufr> hallo
[01:29] <MilhousePunkRock> jpatrick: Found it, was in: /home/<myusername>/.kde/share/wallpapers/stormblue--0
[01:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Are folder with a . in front hidden?
[01:34] <kristian> how do i install driver for my graphic card?
[01:36] <noiesmo> ubotu, !tell kristian about nvidia
[01:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about !tell kristian about nvidia
[01:36] <noiesmo> !nvidia
[01:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:36] <noiesmo> !ati
[01:36] <gnomefreak> NoUse: they point to same page
[01:36] <gnomefreak> oops
[01:36] <kristian> i have ati
[01:37] <gnomefreak> !ati > kristian
[01:37] <gnomefreak> read your pl kristian
[01:37] <gnomefreak> s/pl/pm
[01:39] <kristian> thx
[01:40] <kristian> i'll try to fix it now:)
[01:40] <kristian> i m not sure if i have dropper drake.. how can i find out?
[01:41] <diiiego> hi boys, i've problem with xgl (i've kde and nvidia card) when i start xgl session the sistem block during loading.... can you help me??
[01:41] <nico8481> chx: np
[01:45] <Feriaman> hi people, may i ask what kind of graphic news client you are using on Kubuntu ? and why ?
[01:46] <flo> i need some help...when i put in a cd in the cd drive i have the cd icon apear then desapear in about 2 sec. i can't view anithing that's on any cd , what's hapening?
[01:47] <dmarkey> hi, can someone help me getting the nvidia drivers working?
[01:48] <MilhousePunkRock> !nvidia
[01:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:49] <uniq> kristian: in konsole: 'cat /etc/issue', 6.06 is dapper drake.
[01:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Did you look there already, dmarkey?
[01:49] <dmarkey> nope, doing that now, thanks
[01:49] <omeow> Why doesn't /etc/issue say Kubuntu?
[01:50] <davide_> vdv
[01:50] <uniq> omeow: because it's the same. kubuntu is ubuntu with out gnome and with kde.
[01:50] <davide_> ok
[01:51] <omeow> I know that. But if it says ubuntu, people assume I use gnome, and that's not the case. :)
[01:51] <omeow> (assuming that file is used to indicate the distribution in webbrowsers, and which will ultimately show up in webserver logs)
[01:51] <stonedyak> any idea why apt-get can't find linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-k7? i've done apt-get update but it can only find 2.6.15-23. The mirror I'm using has it (http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/)
[01:53] <MilhousePunkRock> What's the command to launch Firefox? I want to bind that to one of my special keys, "firefox %u" from the shortcut does not work
[01:53] <Travis|linux> mozilla-firefox
[01:53] <uniq> stonedyak: i think you might be missing 'restricted' from the dapper-security line in sources.list
[01:53] <kristian> Now i have followed the guide to install ati. i m on the last step, Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0] ", i don't now what to do..
[01:54] <uniq> milhousepunkrock: what about just 'firefox' ?
[01:54] <MilhousePunkRock> What's the %u for anyway?
[01:54] <MilhousePunkRock> mozilla-firefox works for Alt+F2 at least
[01:54] <uniq> it's for arguments, %u will be replaced with 'http://www.ubuntu.com' if you give it as an argument.
[01:55] <stonedyak> uniq: my sources.list is ok. like i said, apt-get can find 2.6.15-23 but not 25? is there any way to force apt-get update to re-download the list?
[01:55] <uniq> stonedyak: can you please check your sources.list, i suspect i'm right :)
[01:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Well, I guess Fx overrides that with the homepage I put in there, unix_infidel
[01:56] <MilhousePunkRock> lol
[01:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Well, I guess Fx overrides that with the homepage I put in there, uniq
[01:56] <uniq> stonedyak: you want: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[01:56] <MilhousePunkRock> that's the right name now... ;-)
[01:56] <uniq> stonedyak: i suspect you have: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main
[01:56] <uniq> milhousepunkrock: yes :)
[01:56] <stonedyak> uniq: deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted is what i have
[01:57] <stonedyak> uniq: nevermind, i see
[01:57] <MilhousePunkRock> How come "mozilla-firefox" works as a command, but not binded to they key, Travis|linux?
[01:57] <stonedyak> thnkas
[01:57] <uniq> stonedyak: no problem :)
[01:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Do I need to specify the path?
[01:57] <Travis|linux> MilhousePunkRock: I don't know.. that is the command to run it thou
[01:58] <Travis|linux> MilhousePunkRock: works in x-chat and everything I've put it in
[01:58] <jpatrick> MilhousePunkRock: folder's with a . are hidden
[01:59] <marine> hello
[01:59] <Travis|linux>  /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox
[01:59] <Travis|linux> that is the full path
[01:59] <dmarkey> hi, thanks got the nvidia driver going, now my resolution is maxed out at 1024x768, my monitor can go high
[02:00] <dmarkey> higher*
[02:00] <Travis|linux> dmarkey: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:00] <MilhousePunkRock> It works with the full path, thanks, Travis|linux
[02:00] <dmarkey> is there no GUI to do it for me?
[02:01] <RawSewage> after you install something and it doesnt appear in the menu, whats the command to restart
[02:01] <uniq> dmarkey: try kmenu - system settings - display
[02:01] <MilhousePunkRock> System settings --> Hardware --> Display dmarkey
[02:01] <uniq> rawsewage: kbuildsycoca
[02:01] <mikearthur> can anyone describe what the "dapper changes" lists has on it?
[02:02] <RawSewage> uniq, dont I just want to restart kicker?
[02:02] <Kizz> How do i config the file on the last step for ati? A program opened, but there is nothing...
[02:02] <uniq> rawsewage: you don't need to. but you can do that too. 'dcop kicker kicker restart'
[02:02] <RawSewage> ok ty
[02:03] <Travis|linux> dmarkey: I had to do mine manually.. 1680 x 1050 wasn't a option.. I had to modify the xorg.conf by hand
[02:04] <uniq> milhousepunkrock: packages beeing accepted into dapper. nothing you would want to subscribe to if you're not specially interessted.
[02:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Hmm? uniq
[02:04] <uniq> milhousepunkrock: oh, wrong name. sorry.
[02:04] <uniq> mikearthur:  packages beeing accepted into dapper. nothing you would want to subscribe to if you're not specially interessted.
[02:05] <mikearthur> cool, just curious
[02:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Is it recommended to upgrade KDE to 3.5.3? Before it's officially in Kubuntu?
[02:05] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: sure, it's safe
[02:05] <Travis|linux> works fine for me
[02:05] <uniq> milhousepunkrock: it won't be official in kubuntu before 6.10
[02:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Is it in the repos already?
[02:05] <mikearthur> its on the kubuntu.org custom ones
[02:05] <uniq> it's kinda semi-official. :)
[02:05] <mikearthur> I'd go for it
[02:05] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: no, it was too late
[02:05] <Kizz> Do i need a specific program to config the file?
[02:06] <dmarkey> hey thanks, one more quick question, how do update the xine engine to playe mp3s?
[02:06] <Hobbsee> uniq: well, it is official.  mostly.  it'll be put into edgy
[02:06] <MilhousePunkRock> I read the changelog, faster booting made me curious...
[02:06] <mikearthur> MilhousePunkRock: go for it
[02:08] <uniq> hobbsee: semi-official. :)
[02:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Quote from kde.org:  KDE 3.5.3 features improvements in startup speed, a significant audit of small bugs, and some well-tested new functionality.
[02:08] <mikearthur> the thing I don't like the the Kubuntu patches in KDE that break functionality
[02:08] <uniq> milhousepunkrock: login is faster in 3.5.3
[02:09] <MilhousePunkRock> That's nice, uniq. I know noone probably wants to hear that, but windows booted a hell of a lot faster
[02:09] <Travis|linux> honestly 3.5.3 seems mostly the same to me
[02:09] <Hobbsee> uniq: official enough :P
[02:09] <MilhousePunkRock> So what's the safest and easiest way to get it?
[02:09] <mikearthur> MilhousePunkRock: did it really though? If you cut back on the services Linux runs and count till the time the hard disk stops having any activity on Windows it takes pretty long
[02:09] <Hobbsee> mikearthur: which in particular?  the konqueror ones?
[02:10] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: see kubuntu.org
[02:10] <mikearthur> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main
[02:10] <mikearthur> to your sources.list
[02:10] <mikearthur> Hobbsee: the Kopete one really pisses me off
[02:10] <mikearthur> you can't disable the tab bar
[02:10] <Hobbsee> mikearthur: which?
[02:10] <uniq> hobbsee: very close to official :)
[02:10] <mikearthur> even when you have one window per tap
[02:10] <Travis|linux> mikearthur: you can fix that
[02:10] <mikearthur> how?
[02:10] <MilhousePunkRock> How do I put it in there via console, mikearthur?
[02:11] <mikearthur> MilhousePunkRock: sudo echo deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:11] <mikearthur> Travis|linux: how?
[02:11] <Hobbsee> !cli > MilhousePunkRock
[02:11] <Travis|linux> looking
[02:11] <mikearthur> cheers, although, I'd be surprised if it can be done
[02:12] <uniq> mikearthur: i don't have tabs in my kopete. at all.
[02:12] <mikearthur> uniq: bizarre, I can't get rid of mine
[02:12] <uniq> hm..
[02:12] <Travis|linux> I'm using the new version thou
[02:12] <Travis|linux> compiled it myself
[02:12] <mikearthur> so am I
[02:12] <RawSewage> how do you increase screen refresh rate  , with  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:12] <mikearthur> I'm using the new version from Riddell
[02:13] <Kizz> uniq: PM me, pls
[02:13] <cox377> whats the apt-get command for the new KDE ?
[02:13] <uniq> kizz: hm?
[02:13] <mikearthur> Riddell: is there any way of removing the Kubuntu patches?
[02:14] <Kizz> i don't now how to config a file..
[02:14] <mikearthur> I've got "Open All Messages in New Chat Window" selected, and they do, but each window has a tab :(
[02:14] <cox377> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:15] <cox377> would that be the command?
[02:15] <uniq> kizz: what file?
[02:15] <Kizz> xorg.conf i think
[02:15] <Kizz> last step in the ati guide... to install driver..
[02:15] <Travis|linux> mikearthur: it was in the kopeterc file (the config file)
[02:16] <Travis|linux> that is where I changed it
[02:16] <mikearthur> Travis|linux: I'll give it a go, what was it called?
[02:16] <mikearthur> can you send me your kopeterc
[02:16] <gnomefreak> cox377: you need to add the repos riddell has for kde3.5.3 than sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:17] <Infecto> hello
[02:17] <Infecto> i`v got problem with opera 9.0
[02:17] <Infecto> it crash on my ubuntu
[02:17] <Infecto> do some one know whats the problem ?
[02:18] <BazziR> it may be a buggy software
[02:18] <Travis|linux> Infecto: thats more than a lil vague
[02:18] <Travis|linux> Infecto: impossible to help with info like that
[02:18] <Infecto> 1 sec
[02:18] <cox377> gnomefreak: so that should update KDE?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> cox377: yep as long as you have the 3.5.3 repos in your sources.list file
[02:19] <cox377> gnomefreak: i added  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main
[02:20] <mikearthur> Travis|linux: could you send your kopeterc to me?
[02:20] <mikearthur> want to diff them
[02:20] <mario__> opera crashes when build-in torrent engine is used
[02:20] <Travis|linux> no.. its got all my buddy list and everything in it
[02:20] <cox377> is there a downloadable sources list that has all these sources already on them?
[02:20] <mario__> for me is working very good, the beta version and the new official release
[02:20] <gnomefreak> cox377: this is the one i have deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main
[02:20] <Kizz> can someone help me? :)
[02:20] <Kizz> pm pls..
[02:21] <mikearthur> Travis|linux: if I pastebin you mine, could you do a diff for me?
[02:21] <gnomefreak> cox377: there were like 5 of them
[02:21] <cox377> gnomefreak: u know what my update manager has started downloading loads and it's all 3.5.3 stuff
[02:21] <cox377> lol
[02:21] <cox377> it would be nice to have a sources list that is downloadable that has everything thats updates like say once a week
[02:22] <Infecto> Travis|linux: http://lcm.pl/oko2.bz2
[02:22] <Infecto> thats the strace
[02:22] <cox377> gnomefreak: i mean i'm trying to install flash player but having hassle, added the suggest repo and still wont do it
[02:22] <Infecto> 8.54 works fine
[02:23] <gnomefreak> cox377: dont add the repos for flash flash is already in the repos its in multiverse repo
[02:23] <cox377> gnomefreak: when i run the command it just says 0 added 0 upgradeable 0 removeable
[02:23] <mikearthur> Travis|linux: can you remember what the variable was?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> cox377: what arch ar eyou on?
[02:24] <cox377> arch?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> i386? ppc? 64bit?
[02:24] <cox377> ahh
[02:24] <cox377> i386
[02:24] <Kizz> if i want to edit a file, do i need a spesific program, app.?
[02:24] <jeff_> can someone tell me or point me to how to add a program to the Kicker menu?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> cox377: enable multiverse and than run sudo apt-get isntall flashplugin-nonfree
[02:25] <Travis|linux> mikearthur: looking for it.. I changed it a while ago.. I got the idea from google.. trying to find that also
[02:25] <mikearthur> Travis|linux: thanks!
[02:25] <cox377> gnomefreak: is there a command for enabling multiverse?
[02:25] <cox377> is there much differences with the new KDE?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> cox377: open your /etc/apt/sources.list and add the word multiverse at the end of each line that ends in universe and take the # away from those lines
[02:26] <cox377> ok cheers
[02:26] <cox377> will try that now
[02:26] <gnomefreak> cox377: or use synaptic
[02:26] <Infecto> Travis|linux: thats inaf ?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> maybe even adept but never tried it that way
[02:27] <uniq> mikearthur: what was the option called? in kopeterc?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> !repos > cox377
[02:27] <mikearthur> don't know
[02:27] <mikearthur> uniq: Chatwindow Policy perhaps, not sure
[02:27] <gnomefreak> cox377: full instructions are in you rpm
[02:27] <xanax`> hello
[02:28] <Infecto> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16365
[02:28] <uniq> mikearthur: ok, i thought you just changed it. :)
[02:28] <Infecto> thats all i can do
[02:28] <Infecto> i think so
[02:29] <slow-aufraeumen> bbl
[02:34] <kristian> OpenGL version string: 2.0.5814 (8.25.18 <---- is that the newest driver for ati?
[02:34] <cox377> do i just restart KDE to get into the new 3.5.3?
[02:34] <gnomefreak> cox377: if already in kde i dont think so
[02:35] <cox377> restart computer?
[02:35] <uniq> logout, and re-login.
[02:35] <gnomefreak> uniq: you have to log in?
[02:35] <cox377> i restarted KDE whichj meant i hjad to re log in so i'm, assuming i'm in the new one
[02:36] <Hobbsee> yeah, you have to restart x to get the new kde, after you've added the repo and upgraded
[02:36] <gnomefreak> cox377: look under help
[02:36] <uniq> gnomefreak: to restart KDE? yes. or you can restart each application with dcop if you want to.
[02:36] <Hobbsee> cox377: check with help, versoin, of any kde app.
[02:36] <gnomefreak> i didnt know you had to restart anything i thought it was fully intergrated
[02:37] <cox377> yeh, just checked under help and it says version 3.5.3
[02:37] <cox377> doesnt look any differnet to me
[02:37] <cox377> lol
[02:37] <gnomefreak> cox377: its really not
[02:37] <cox377> right, i gotta go n fix a damn laptop
[02:37] <cox377> in a bit guys
[02:37] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: well, yeah, but you have to restart the session to go from kde 3.5.2 to kde 3.5.3 - just like you do the gnome releases, and kernel updats
[02:37] <gnomefreak> ah
[02:38] <uniq> gnomefreak: you don't have to restart, but if you want to run the new versions -now- you have to re-login. It won't break if you don't. But only the newly started applications will be new versions. The ones sitting in the background will be old versions.
[02:38] <gnomefreak> got it ty
[02:38] <uniq> :)
[02:42] <kristian> how do i install macromedia flash player?
[02:42] <Hobbsee> !flash
[02:42] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:42] <Hobbsee> kristian: ^
[02:42] <kristian> thx
[02:45] <Style_CHM> try easyubuntu i think its called
[02:47] <uniq> !easyubuntu
[02:47] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:47] <Raito> I just got a new computer, but thing is this one has a NTFS harddrive. Does Kubuntu's Desktop CD's installer partition on an NTFS harddrive too? I have no intention of using windows so I don't need to see the windows partition, it just needs to be there
[02:53] <uniq> raito: resizing ntfs partitions is supported, yes.
[02:53] <h0e> ppl cn y help me
[02:54] <h0e> can u help me
[02:54] <h0e> how do i get java
[02:54] <uniq> !java
[02:54] <h0e> on kubuntu
[02:54] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:54] <h0e> for runescape
[02:54] <gilster> hello
[02:54] <jeff_> can someone tell me or point me to, how to add an install application to the Kicker?
[02:55] <h0e> how do i get java ffor runescape
[02:55] <uniq> !java > h0e
[02:55] <gilster> i need help with my screensavers...i know my onboard card does 3GL but i cant seem to run these screensavers here
[02:56] <gilster> it only runs on the top 1/4 of the screeen
[02:56] <h0e> ty
[02:56] <jeff_> too many people on i;ll try back
[02:56] <uniq> jeff_: you want to add a applet to the kicker?
[02:56] <h0e> ffs isnt there a simpler java to download like windows
[02:57] <uniq> h0e: it is simple.
[02:57] <h0e> how
[02:57] <h0e> i clicked on it and it didnt work
[02:57] <h0e> it came to community
[02:57] <h0e> now im on sum indez
[02:58] <h0e> ?
[02:58] <h0e> !java
[02:58] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:58] <MilhousePunkRock> !kmilo
[02:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about kmilo
[02:59] <uniq> h0e: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-b6030233763f831b1ff3a43e7ee3d804fd879ce5-2
[03:00] <jinho> how can I change the permission to another hard drive I've connected so that I can write to it- right now its permissions are: drwxr-xr-x, and it belongs to root, rather my account
[03:00] <h0e> thank u
[03:00] <uniq> have to go. bye.
[03:00] <MilhousePunkRock> CU uniq
[03:01] <jeff_> jinho I have same prob
[03:01] <jinho> =T
[03:02] <jinho> anyone?
[03:03] <driz_> I tried getting Java using that link but I still get errors on teh command line??
[03:03] <h0e> ffs
[03:04] <h0e> ahh ffs this kubuntis pissin me off
[03:05] <jpatrick> h0e: why?
[03:05] <driz_> same here
[03:05] <driz_> driz@driz-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[03:05] <driz_> Reading package lists... Done