[09:52] <delire> itz: my device files are /dev/ub* out of interest.
[09:52] <J_P> Seveas: ubunt use sources.list from debian or ubuntu create all your packages ?
[09:53] <Seveas> J_P, not if you are already on a recent sarge
[09:53] <Seveas> then you will need to pin hoary to 1001 and sarge to 50
[09:53] <HumanPrototype> why cant i open /dev/hda?
[09:53] <nalioth> J_P: ubuntu packages
[09:53] <Seveas> HumanPrototype, only root can do that
[09:53] <mihai_> is there a official upgrade for firefox 1.04 for ubuntu?
[09:53] <Seveas> J_P, maybe I misubderstood that last question
[09:53] <Seveas> mihai_, yes
[09:54] <Seveas> sort of
[09:54] <J_P> Seveas: nalioth i use debian stable since 2001, and I like much.. but have many old packages..
[09:54] <nalioth> J_P: debian packages may break ubuntu
[09:54] <J_P> and sid is very unstable..
[09:54] <Seveas> FF in ubuntu is 1.0.2 by name abut it has all 1.0.4 security patches
[09:54] <itz> delire, if u did follow my questions all way u find out that it wont show up ANYTHING new in /dev
[09:54] <nalioth> J_P: they are all available here for your use, in some form or other
[09:54] <Seveas> J_P, ubuntu is very stable, if you are still using woody, you can easily updgrade
[09:54] <m4x> what is the mysql package called in synaptic?
[09:54] <mihai_> Seveas, is it avalaible througth package manager?
[09:54] <Seveas> m4x, mysql for what..?
[09:55] <nalioth> mihai_: yes it is
[09:55] <Seveas> mihai_, yes, in the hoary-security archive
[09:55] <Seveas> m4x, the mysql server..?
[09:55] <mihai_> ok
[09:55] <delire> itz: right then i would definitely watch the log when you plug it in to be sure that the kernel even understands the device.
[09:55] <m4x> i want to install mysql on my ubuntu box, i have added the repo listed above
[09:55] <mihai_> thanks
[09:55] <m4x> yes, mysql server
[09:55] <nalioth> mihai_: when you get it, come back for the 'fix' (to fool people)
[09:55] <Seveas> m4x, mysql-server
[09:55] <HumanPrototype> Seveas, I'm already using sudo
[09:55] <SynapticHat> Hello world
[09:55] <itz> delire,  i can primess
[09:55] <m4x> thanks!
[09:55] <djp> delire: yes, that is the page that shows me the washed out colours
[09:55] <delire> itz: sure..
[09:56] <J_P> Seveas: i use sarge..
[09:56] <delire> djp: i would google around. quite an obscure problem..
[09:56] <Hanna_> i think i should replace my younger brother with a very small shell script.
[09:56] <m4x> mysql-server-4.1?
[09:56] <Seveas> HumanPrototype, what are you doing?
[09:56] <LokeDK> about the md5 mismatch. can I force it? and would anything happen if I do that
[09:56] <J_P> Seveas: then ubuntu get packages from sid and do it stable ?
[09:56] <Seveas> m4x, no, just mysql-server
[09:56] <Seveas> J_P, indeed
[09:56] <delire> Hanna_: wise
[09:56] <nalioth> J_P: then a source.list transplant probably would NOT be a good idea
[09:56] <Seveas> m4x: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[09:56] <djp> delire: if i use the recommneded stcolor driver, the colors are fine, however i always lose a small part of my print at the bottom of the page.
[09:57] <m4x> Seveas, yup, got that
[09:57] <delire> djp: odd..
[09:57] <djp> delire: i have tried without success unfortunately for me
[09:57] <Seveas> m4x, and do an apt-get update :)
[09:57] <delire> itz: can you 'locate old_scheme_first' for me?
[09:57] <m4x> yup yup, done did it
[09:57] <SynapticHat> I'm currently on windows, and ubuntu won't display in the resolutions box any resolution higher than 640*480... : /
[09:57] <Hanna_> of course it is. i just cannot believe such a little--- thing can be so annoying.
[09:57] <Seveas> SynapticHat: To find out how you can change your display resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:57] <itz> delire, privmess plzz?
[09:57] <nalioth> SynapticHat: watch ubotu
[09:57] <m4x> i see mysql-server and mysql-server-4.1 in synaptic
[09:57] <nalioth> !resolution
[09:57] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:57] <J_P> nalioth my idea is reinstall, get out debian and put ubuntu
[09:57] <delire> Hanna_: as technology progresses, the annoying things will become smaller and smaller.
[09:57] <twb_> should i save the mbr AND the  partition table to a file?
[09:57] <HumanPrototype> Sevas, I cant boot into ubuntu as it just halts at grub with no menu wanting commands so I'm trying to use the ubuntu live cd to get access and grab my old files off my pc onto either a flash disk or another pc over the network
[09:58] <nalioth> J_P: that would present the least problems
[09:58] <SynapticHat> Thanks all!
[09:58] <Seveas> m4x, the -4.1 is not the most stable,..
[09:58] <nalioth> HumanPrototype: why not use the livecd to repair grub?
[09:58] <m4x> kk
[09:58] <J_P> nalioth least  problems ? why, Have I anyone problem about stability from ubuntu ?
[09:58] <Hanna_> well yes, i suppose 2 lines of code would easily perform whatever that brat is doing at the moment.
[09:58] <Seveas> m4x, use mysql-server if you don't have a very good reason to go for 4.1
[09:59] <J_P> nalioth i have many many servers in debian stable running for years withou tproblem..
[09:59] <HumanPrototype> Sevas, how do i do that?
[09:59] <Seveas> J_P, up/down/sidegrading from sarge to ubuntu is tricky
[09:59] <nalioth> HumanPrototype: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:59] <J_P> my question about ubuntu is, is really stable as debian stable ?
[09:59] <J_P> becouse i not use linux for desktop, i use only for servers..
[09:59] <Seveas> HumanPrototype, sounds like your harddisk is broken
[09:59] <nalioth> J_P: not at all, but it is possible to cleanly upgrade from woody, but not from sarge, sid or etch
[10:00] <Seveas> J_P, ubuntu is as stable as debian
[10:00] <J_P> naliothi go install from clear hd, not upgrade..
[10:00] <J_P> Seveas: ohh ok!! thank you!
[10:00] <Seveas> J_P, imho even more stable sometimes
[10:00] <nalioth> J_P: that is the best way
[10:00] <wolverian> J_P: the ubuntu releases are stable in the respect that they only get bugfixes, just like debian stable. they shouldn't crash, either. :)
[10:00] <munki^> How can I program my buttons on my Logitech MX516 mouse ?
[10:00] <HumanPrototype> Sevas, 2 hard drives in a week! my sisters only went a few days back!!!
[10:01] <Hanna_> while(brother == awake)
[10:01] <Hanna_> cout << "whinewhinewhine" << endl;
[10:01] <Seveas> HumanPrototype, sounds like bad karma in your house
[10:01] <Seveas> HumanPrototype, that happened to me 3 months ago: server, laptop and desktop all broke within 2 weeks
[10:01] <nalioth> i feel like writing a wiki
[10:01] <Hanna_> anyway, i'll go get coffee and stop whining now.
[10:01] <Moppin> Seveas, sounds like my cars :(
[10:01] <itz> Seveas, what mailing list did u refere to?
[10:01] <J_P> Seveas: exist one determinate time for new releases of ubuntu ?
[10:01] <Hanna_> i usually feel like coffee.
[10:02] <HumanPrototype> nalioth thanks but how i cant read the output from fdisk -l /dev/hda - im root but it cant open disk.
[10:02] <Seveas> itz<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:02] <nalioth> J_P: every 6 months
[10:02] <nalioth> HumanPrototype: install smartmontools
[10:02] <Seveas> J_P, yes, every april and every october there is a release
[10:02] <itz> k thx
[10:02] <J_P> good
[10:02] <Seveas> J_P, and every release is supported for 18 months with security updates
[10:02] <nalioth> HumanPrototype: and then run "smartctl"
[10:02] <J_P> Seveas: and for actualize need only apt-get update; apt-get -f dist-upgrade as in debian ?
[10:02] <J_P> for upgrade
[10:03] <nalioth> J_P: apt is apt
[10:03] <Seveas> J_P, correct
[10:03] <nalioth> J_P: the world over
[10:03] <J_P> ok
[10:03] <chillywilly> apt-get into it
[10:03] <J_P> then ubuntu is onde debian SID stable ?
[10:03] <J_P> auehuaeh
[10:03] <nalioth> J_P: this IS debian in a kinder gentler wrapper
[10:03] <Seveas> J_P, yes, Ubuntu can be considered a stable sid
[10:04] <mrpickles> what is the apt get for w32codecs ? i think im doing somethign wrong
[10:04] <itz> delire, did u die on me?
[10:04] <Seveas> mrpickles, backports hase them, you can also download them manually from mplayerhq.hu
[10:04] <BlueSummer_id> lo all
[10:04] <nalioth> think i'll write a alias pointing to w32codecs
[10:04] <mrpickles> Seveas, what the heck is backports ?
[10:04] <BlueSummer_id> what was the name of the guy i was just speaking to lol
[10:04] <tiglionabbit> !w32codecs
[10:04] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a set of codecs needed to play many common audio and video formats, such as WMV. You can install w32codecs from the Backports repositories (see: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org).
[10:04] <nalioth> !backports
[10:04] <ubotu> well, backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[10:04] <delire> itz: i asked you to find a file for me so i could continue helping..
[10:05] <Seveas> mrpickles, an attempt to mix the stability of Ubuntu with bleeding-edge new packages
[10:05] <nalioth> tiglionabbit is here, no need to !ask !anything !else
[10:05] <twb_> ummm, hate me if you must, but i need help again
[10:05] <HumanPrototype> nalioth, it failed
[10:05] <tiglionabbit> yay, all me ubotu entries are still there and useful
[10:05] <HumanPrototype> no such file or directory apparently
[10:05] <nalioth> HumanPrototype: the download failed? the test failed? what?
[10:06] <itz> delire,  i dont got any file called "old_scheme" or similiar
[10:06] <nalioth> HumanPrototype: use apt-get or synaptic to  install "smartmontools"
[10:06] <J_P> Seveas: thank you.. i am doing download of ubuntu...
[10:07] <mrpickles> Seveas, I'm seriously tired of the lack of support for ANY kind of media in ubuntu.  Is there a distro that is as easy to isntall as ubuntu but has basic things like mp3 support ?
[10:07] <Seveas> mrpickles, it's not Ubuntus fault that media support is lacking
[10:08] <Seveas> Ubuntu backports actually makes it quite easy to add mp3 support...
[10:08] <HumanPrototype> nalioth, sorry, i didnt explain - thats the message smartctl gives when i run "smartctl /dev/hda"
[10:08] <demirg> burda turk var mi?
[10:08] <nalioth> mrpickles: dunno, but you can try mepis
[10:08] <searcher`> isn't mp3 support in universe since hoary?
[10:08] <Seveas> demirg, we speak english in here...
[10:08] <itz> delire, u cant help now then or what?  i dont have any file called that
[10:08] <nalioth> HumanPrototype: as Seveas said, your HD is officially dead
[10:08] <delire> itz: right, i recognise that error. just a moment.
[10:08] <searcher`> mrpickles: www.ubuntuguide.org
[10:08] <Seveas> HumanPrototype, maybe you hae SCSI or SATA disks?
[10:08] <Seveas> searcher`: Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[10:08] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: When I'm initially installing ubuntu (repartitioning and all that), how do I select the most minimal installation/
[10:09] <itz> k
[10:09] <searcher`> Seveas: looking, sorry
[10:09] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: choose the server install
[10:09] <HaroldJohnson> Seveas: When I'm initially installing ubuntu (repartitioning and all that), how do I select the most minimal installation?
[10:09] <HumanPrototype> Seveas, nope, all gd old ide, must be a dead disk then
[10:09] <HumanPrototype> cow turds
[10:09] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: Which is the server install?
[10:09] <Seveas> HaroldJohnson, boot the install cd with the server boot parameter
[10:09] <HaroldJohnson> Seveas: What is that?
[10:09] <Seveas> that will install only ubuntu-base
[10:10] <mrpickles> Seveas, the problem i had with mepis was for some reason it was not working well with my sound/not mixing it or something and I had absolutely no clue how to fix it.  Mepis is a good distro however:P
[10:10] <HumanPrototype> which is better, kubuntu or ubuntu?
[10:10] <Seveas> which means: kernel, basic tools
[10:10] <tiglionabbit> HaroldJohnson: what he means is, put in the CD, and type "server" at the prompt
[10:10] <Seveas> HumanPrototype, they are the same, just a different set of packages installed by default
[10:10] <HaroldJohnson> tiglionabbit: Thank you
[10:10] <tiglionabbit> HaroldJohnson: if you get the server install, it doesn't matter whether you have ubuntu or kubuntu
[10:10] <jeroen_> HaroldJohnson, depends whether you like kde or gnome
[10:10] <WarriorSlayer> hey guys there's any way that i can make a bootdisk to my ubuntu partition soh i dont have to instalar lilo or grub in mbr?
[10:10] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, you're mixing up 2 people :)
[10:10] <digitalfox> the CD ordering... are they sending LiveCD's or install CD's?
[10:10] <Seveas> digitalfox, both
[10:11] <tiglionabbit> oops
[10:11] <nalioth> HumanPrototype: which is better? ford or chevy? bacardi or captain morgan?
[10:11] <digitalfox> ooh.
[10:11] <HaroldJohnson> tiglionabbit and jeroen: Thank you.
[10:11] <demirg> i cannot upon my firefox at hoary, it prints an error like : title="&mainWindow.title;" Can anyone help me???
[10:11] <HaroldJohnson> I'm off to do this.
[10:11] <nalioth> digitalfox: they send a fancy envelope with BOTH
[10:11] <twb_> so, when duplicating partitions, the source and destnation have to be exactly the same size
[10:11] <Hanna_> chevy, captain morgan.
[10:11] <Seveas> twb_, yes
[10:11] <WarriorSlayer> hey guys there's any way that i can make a bootdisk to my ubuntu partition soh i dont have to instalar lilo or grub in mbr?
[10:11] <Hanna_> although the question was not for me and so on.
[10:11] <HumanPrototype> Seveas, with ubuntu i noticed that kde apps didnt work properly, in kubuntu will gnome and gtk apps be ok?
[10:11] <Seveas> WarriorSlayer, yes
[10:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> stoopid cd rom won't give me back my disk
[10:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[10:11] <Seveas> WarriorSlayer, grub-floppy can do that
[10:12] <WarriorSlayer> Seveas how i make it?
[10:12] <nalioth> HumanPrototype: they work fine
[10:12] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: EJECT it.
[10:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it won't
[10:12] <Seveas> HumanPrototype, sure, they are the same applications...
[10:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it says it's busy but it's not doin nothin
[10:12] <digitalfox> so... if I ordered 8 x86 and 2 PPC, that will be 8 x86-install, 8 x86-live, 2 PPC-install, and 2 PPC-live?
[10:12] <twb_> well, what if my source is 40gb and my destnation is 80 gb, is there a way to make a partition to make iit 4gb?
[10:12] <delire> itz: can you paste the whole error to a pastebin for me?
[10:12] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: not using the button.  Right-click on its icon and select eject, or type eject at the terminal
[10:12] <Seveas> WarriorSlayer, with the grub-floppy command :)
[10:12] <HumanPrototype> nalioth, thanks
[10:12] <HumanPrototype> Seveas, thanks
[10:12] <twb_> 40 gb*
[10:12] <HumanPrototype> bye all
[10:12] <Seveas> digitalfox, correct
[10:12] <nalioth> digitalfox: yes
[10:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[10:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[10:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> eject: unmount of `/dev/hdc' failed
[10:12] <WarriorSlayer> Seveas but i can make this command in the install cd boot?
[10:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's not doin nothin
[10:12] <xophEr> hm, when I try to unrar an archive, my computer gets really slow, but the rar-program still uses only about 20% of my CPU and it's also very slow. Anyone know of a solution?
[10:12] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, lsof | grep cdrom0
[10:13] <WarriorSlayer> i instaled the ubuntu in /dev/hda2 and don't make any tipe of boot
[10:13] <WarriorSlayer> now i can't boot the partition
[10:13] <delire> ChurcH_of_FoamY: umount -l /media/cdrom0
[10:13] <Seveas> WarriorSlayer, should be possible..
[10:13] <nalioth> WarriorSlayer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:13] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: Can I install server using BootX/
[10:13] <HaroldJohnson> ?
[10:13] <WarriorSlayer> nalioth thanks :]
[10:13] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: should be just like the warty
[10:13] <J_P> what is oficial page of ubuntu ?
[10:13] <jacky^> hi all
[10:13] <J_P> ubuntu.org ?
[10:14] <Burgundavia> J_P, ubuntu.com ubuntlinux.org
[10:14] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: all the things you did with warty will need to be done here
[10:14] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: I don't understand where I'm supposed to enter "server"
[10:14] <HaroldJohnson> Which prompt?
[10:14] <Burgundavia> J_P, not ubuntu.org
[10:14] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: at the boot, it should say "press f1 for help or <enter> to boot"
[10:14] <tiglionabbit> HaroldJohnson: when you put in the CD and boot from it, at the very beginning, it will say "Hit enter or type linux to continue" or something of the sort
[10:14] <jacky^> can't find mpg321 using apt-cache search, anyone can help me please ?
[10:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm unmounted now but still won't spit it out
[10:14] <lumberjack> whats the proper usage of umask?
[10:14] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: press f1 and look for what to type for a server install
[10:14] <lumberjack> i know what it does how would i go about using it
[10:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> looks for paper clip
[10:15] <nalioth> jacky^: do you have all your repos installed?
[10:15] <rz> hello, has anyone successfully installed cocoon (from apache) in ubuntu?
[10:15] <HaroldJohnson> tiglionabbit and nalioth: Will do, thank you
[10:15] <mrpickles> what program can i use to  burn an ISO in ubuntu ?
[10:15] <jacky^> nalioth I'm not sure
[10:15] <Seveas> mrpickles, gnomebaker
[10:15] <cmatheson> mrpickles: k3b
[10:15] <tiglionabbit> mrpickles: k3b?
[10:15] <mrpickles> aye
[10:16] <tiglionabbit> hehe gnomebaker, that's the funniest software name I've heard in a while
[10:16] <tiglionabbit> I think I'll go bake some gnomes right now
[10:16] <Seveas> :o)
[10:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> gotta love the paper clip trick ^_^
[10:16] <Seveas> bon appetit!
[10:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> cd-roms don't though i suppose
[10:16] <nalioths_dog> jacky^: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[10:16] <nalioths_dog> jacky^: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:16] <Stan_> Ubuntu is taking quite a while to install
[10:17] <tiglionabbit> Stan_: that so?  It was the fastest install of an OS I've ever had
[10:17] <rade> hello, has anyone successfully installed cocoon in ubuntu?
[10:17] <Seveas> Stan_, on a reasonably modern PC not more than 30 minutes
[10:17] <Seveas> rade: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[10:17] <Hanna_> ditto that, tiglionabbit.
[10:17] <tiglionabbit> Stan_: try installing windows XP.  Now that takes some waiting...
[10:17] <Stan_> k its been about 30 mins and this is a old PC
[10:17] <jacky^> nalioth ok, thanks a lot
[10:17] <tiglionabbit> Stan_: Except don't
[10:17] <rade> seveas, sorry i got disconnected
[10:18] <Stan_> lol, I won't
[10:18] <Seveas> Stan_, how old..?
[10:18] <Hanna_> or gentoo. takes some time too.
[10:18] <Seveas> Hanna_, lol :)
[10:18] <delire> itz: use pastebin.com to paste the error output
[10:18] <PDani> hi
[10:18] <PDani> how can i turn on the numlock on X startup? is it possible from xorg.conf? or i should do it with numlockx? is there a script that runs at every X startup?
[10:19] <Stan_> Seveas Im not sure, but pre-XP times
[10:19] <delire> itz: i seem to remember i fixed this issue with something like 'echo Y > /etc/modutils/usbcore/parameters/use_old_scheme_first'
[10:19] <Seveas> PDani, look at numlockX
[10:19] <delire> itz: but i need to see that error to be sure
[10:19] <PDani> Seveas: is there a script that runs at every X startup?
[10:19] <rade> seveas: is this the right channel for my question or should i check somewhere else?
[10:19] <delire> PDani: ~/.xinitrc
[10:19] <Seveas> delire, please document that on the wiki :)
[10:19] <nalioth> rade: what question is that?
[10:19] <PDani> delire: not userspecific, i need a global one
[10:19] <Seveas> PDani, yes, in /etc/gdm/
[10:20] <delire> Seveas: i will if i know it's Ubuntu compatible ;)
[10:20] <rade> nalioth: whether anyone has successfuly installed cocoon in ubuntu
[10:20] <cavediver> How do I install mplayer on hoary ? I have both universe and multiverse, buit i can't find the package
[10:20] <Seveas> rade it is, but apparently no one in here knows/has
[10:20] <nalioth> rade, if nobody answers, nobody (here and now) knows
[10:20] <PDani> Seveas: this is a directory. every scripts in it will run at startup?
[10:20] <jacky^> nalioth that's ok, but wich url I need to get mpg321 work ?
[10:20] <qpid> PDani: http://ubuntuguide.org/#numlockx
[10:20] <nalioth> rade: try again in half an hour or later
[10:20] <Seveas> PDani, no, browse throug it :)
[10:20] <delire> PDani: create a script in /etc/rc2.d/ or at the desired runlevel
[10:20] <nalioth> jacky^: if you are in the US, the repos have been wonky today
[10:20] <PDani> thx
[10:20] <Seveas> PDani, if it is just for your account, use the system->prefs->sessions menu entry
[10:21] <Seveas> delire, bad idea
[10:21] <delire> PDani: Seveas is right, if you use gdm
[10:21] <Seveas> NEVER create scripts in /etc/rc*
[10:21] <jacky^> nalioth, no, I'm in IT
[10:21] <Stan_> yay! its installed!
[10:21] <delire> Seveas: i do often
[10:21] <Seveas> delire, very bad idea
[10:21] <PDani> thx, bye
[10:21] <Seveas> always use init.d
[10:21] <rade> nalioth, seveas, ok, thanks
[10:21] <delire> Seveas: why so? i've been doing that for years
[10:21] <Seveas> and update-rc.d to enable it
[10:21] <Stan_> I'm so happy now :-)
[10:22] <nalioth> jacky^: then if you've enabled all those repos the dog sent, and updated your apt-get, you should see mpg321
[10:22] <Seveas> delire, read the debian standards :)
[10:22] <delire> Seveas: sure or init.d and then update-rc.d defaults 80
[10:22] <delire> Seveas: hehe yeah i know the 'standards'.
[10:22] <ztonzy> hi delire
[10:22] <nalioth> delire: you are a professor if *nix, and know what you are doing
[10:22] <delire> ztonzy: hi there
[10:22] <benplaut> has anyone here successfully compiled a recent version of wireless-tools?
[10:22] <ztonzy> delire: full on for support ;) ?
[10:23] <delire> nalioth: Seveas is right, init.d is cleaner
[10:23] <Hanna_> i wish my mood was as easy to enlighten as Stan_'s. but then again, i've also forgotten my pills today, that might be it, yes.
[10:23] <Stan_> thank you... i guess
[10:23] <nalioth> delire: my machine is full of evil tricks that i will never share in this channel
[10:23] <jacky^> nalioth it's strange, but I can't see mpg321, i used apt-get update
[10:23] <Seveas> Hanna_, who are you talking to...?
[10:23] <delire> ztonzy: no.. too tired to be very useful today.
[10:23] <Hanna_> myself, i guess.
[10:23] <delire> Seveas: hehe i was about to ask the same
[10:23] <nalioth> jacky^: do an "apt-cache search 321"
[10:23] <Seveas> Hanna_, heh :)
[10:24] <ztonzy> delire: ah
[10:24] <Seveas> nalioth, ant then an apt-cache search liftoff!
[10:24] <Hanna_> meaning, i must definitely find my pills.
[10:24] <FancyPantsSCS> hey
[10:24] <ztonzy> delire: soon 2 weeks vacation, take each day as it come
[10:24] <Seveas> hi
[10:24] <FancyPantsSCS> im a noob
[10:24] <delire> nalioth: my issue is i started out before alot of these standards were 'standard' ;)
[10:24] <jacky^> nalioth ok
[10:24] <nalioth> Seveas: not a "apt-cache search 6"?
[10:24] <delire> ztonzy: great!.. i'm off to barcelon tomorrow also
[10:24] <FancyPantsSCS> i just installed ubuntu
[10:24] <Seveas> FancyPantsSCS, we all were once :)
[10:24] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: There is no server option that I can find
[10:24] <FancyPantsSCS> just instakked ubuntu and i need some jelp lol
[10:24] <ztonzy> delire: aaah...no DK then?
[10:24] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: i'm very unfamiliar with the boot sequence
[10:25] <jacky^> nalioth nothing :\ #
[10:25] <delire> ztonzy: yep still working in denmark. just off for my girlfriends festival
[10:25] <Seveas> FancyPantsSCS, well, you've come to the right place :)
[10:25] <HaroldJohnson> naglioth: That's okay
[10:25] <FancyPantsSCS> well i want to get half life/steam running on ubuntu
[10:25] <delire> ztonzy: 1 week
[10:25] <Hanna_> and i just re-realized that a female nick is not a very good idea. and i'm off to find my pills. i shall trouble you no more with my mindless blabber. :)
[10:25] <FancyPantsSCS> and i need help getting cedega running
[10:25] <nalioth> !info mpg321
[10:25] <ubotu> mpg321: (A Free command-line mp3 player, compatible with mpg123), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: <IP_ADDRESS> (hoary), Packaged size: 33 kB, Installed size: 128 kB
[10:25] <HaroldJohnson> tiglionabbit: Are you familiar with booting from a Mac using BootX?
[10:25] <Seveas> FancyPantsSCS, go bug BlueSummer_id, he know how to install cedega and steam :)
[10:25] <ztonzy> delire: I heard spain is really hot now
[10:25] <nalioth> jacky^: are you using hoary?
[10:25] <tiglionabbit> nope
[10:25] <HaroldJohnson> tiglionabbit: Okay.
[10:25] <FancyPantsSCS> ok
[10:25] <FancyPantsSCS> ty
[10:25] <delire> ztonzy: barcelona will be crazy yes
[10:26] <FancyPantsSCS> how do i pm in this thing/?/
[10:26] <HaroldJohnson> Doesn anyone know the approximate size of a base install?
[10:26] <ztonzy> delire: O_o
[10:26] <katzor> FancyPantsSCS, with /msg username message
[10:26] <nalioth> FancyPantsSCS: you tpe /msg <whoever you want to talk to>
[10:26] <katzor> lol
[10:27] <FancyPantsSCS> ok
[10:27] <FancyPantsSCS> ty
[10:27] <Hanna_> HaroldJohnson, about 350 MB?
[10:27] <Hanna_> the minimal install, i mean.
[10:27] <lsuactiafner>  /msg ubotu asl?
[10:27] <lsuactiafner> hehe
[10:27] <Seveas> rofl
[10:27] <HaroldJohnson> Hanna: How do you do a minimal install/
[10:27] <HaroldJohnson> ?
[10:27] <lumberjack> whats the proper usage of umask?
[10:28] <Hanna_> didn't they just explain that to you earlier?
[10:28] <tiglionabbit> HaroldJohnson: I believe Hanna_ means a server install by that.
[10:28] <nalioth> lumberjack: have you seen the man page for umask?
[10:28] <lumberjack> really?
[10:28] <lumberjack> lol sorry
[10:28] <lumberjack> no i tried man umask
[10:28] <lumberjack> and it didnt work
[10:28] <znh> Is there a filebrowser in gnome?
[10:28] <delire> nalioth the man page is fairly slim ;)
[10:28] <nalioth> znh: nautilus
[10:28] <znh> nalioth: thanks
[10:28] <nalioth> lumberjack: have you asked dear old uncle google?
[10:28] <Aragorn_Guardian> ubuntu has support for bluetooth
[10:29] <lumberjack> WHATS GOGLE>?
[10:29] <Stan_> Anyone know where to get driver for USB Linksys Receiver for Ubuntu?
[10:29] <lumberjack> jk
[10:29] <HaroldJohnson> tiglionabbit: I can't seem to access the server installation, as I'm booting from an Old World Mac using BootX; is there a way to avoid installing packages during the installation process?
[10:29] <Aragorn_Guardian> people here is coming exigent...
[10:29] <lumberjack> yeah sorry ill go search google
[10:29] <Aragorn_Guardian> eheheh
[10:29] <nalioth> lumberjack: perhaps you should peruse the manpage for fstab
[10:29] <Seveas> znh, places->computer
[10:29] <lumberjack> nalioth, oh cool thanks didnt think about that
[10:29] <Mez> hmm
[10:30] <Mez> amyone have much experience with swsusp?
[10:30] <husher> Mez: enough experience to have given up on it
[10:30] <BeatYOu> is there a way to ignore crc errors when using synaptic
[10:30] <tiglionabbit> HaroldJohnson: um, how is that different?
[10:30] <Tomcat_> Mez: Yeah... using it pretty much.
[10:30] <Mez> how do i get it to work.
[10:30] <Seveas> Mez, only the experience that ATI and ndiswrapper f*ck it up
[10:30] <Mez> I've no idea :D
[10:30] <jacky^> nalioth nothing to do, can't find mpg321 :(
[10:30] <Seveas> Mez, system -> logout
[10:30] <Seveas> choose hibernate
[10:30] <Mez> yeah
[10:30] <Aragorn_Guardian> ubuntu has support for keyboard and mouse  bluetooth? sorry, was a question..
[10:31] <Tomcat_> Mez: Worked out of the box for me... no idea what you can do when it doesn't. :)
[10:31] <Mez> Seveas, I dont hve hibernate
[10:31] <nalioth> jacky^: pastebin your sources.list, please
[10:31] <Seveas> Mez, upgrade to hoary ;)
[10:31] <jacky^> nalioth ok..
[10:31] <tiglionabbit> Mez: are you using gnome and gdm on hoary?
[10:31] <Mez> KDE :D
[10:31] <Seveas> ah
[10:31] <nalioth> BeatYOu: the repos are wonky today
[10:31] <Seveas> well, there ya go :)
[10:31] <Moppin> Aragorn_Guardian, haven't tried keyboard but I have a BT mouse working.
[10:31] <tiglionabbit> Mez: sorries, it wont work with kde
[10:31] <Seveas> kde kant do it
[10:31] <tiglionabbit> Mez: you can probably call it from commandline though
[10:31] <Aragorn_Guardian> Moppin, thanks...
[10:31] <delire> Mez: i turfed it due to poor resume performance when collaborating with my ATI card
[10:31] <BeatYOu> nalioth: so this is a temporary thing? cause i was receiving alot of borked crc's last night and today
[10:31] <BeatYOu> thats good to know though
[10:32] <Seveas> Mez, call the correct script from /etc/acpi
[10:32] <HaroldJohnson> tiglionabbit: Here's another approach, the one I came in here first asking: which are the large packages I can remove using apt-get (after a standard installation)?
[10:32] <NoHope> hy all
[10:32] <nalioth> BeatYOu: yes, temporary, you can remove the us. from in front of archive.blah , if you wish
[10:32] <Seveas> HaroldJohnson, openoffice
[10:32] <HaroldJohnson> tiglionabbit: Hope that didn't sound bad; thanks for all your help
[10:32] <BeatYOu> nalioth: thanks
[10:32] <Mez> defire, I dont use fglrx - as when I switch tty it freezes my comp
[10:32] <husher> ok, anyone know why horay doesn't play wav files out of the box?  or how to fix it?
[10:33] <twb_> would a second patition be hda2?
[10:33] <HaroldJohnson> Seveas: Okay, I'll remove OpenOffice using apt-get.  Any other large packages I can remove?
[10:33] <husher> twb_: yes
[10:33] <twb_> ty
[10:33] <delire> Mez: right..
[10:33] <Seveas> HaroldJohnson, the complete gui :)
[10:34] <jacky^> nalioth http://rafb.net/paste/results/t2eg2i38.html
[10:34] <HaroldJohnson> Seveas: I have yet to run the GUI on this system; which packages should I be looking for to remove?
[10:34] <cmatheson> HaroldJohnson: are you talking about X windows?
[10:34] <cmatheson> HaroldJohnson: if you want to get rid of all of it you could probably just remove ubuntu-desktop and all of it's dependancies
[10:35] <HaroldJohnson> cmatheson: I suppose; I'm trying to remove as many packages from my Warty installation so I can upgrade to Hoary via apt-get.  (I don't have enough space on my hard disk to currently do so.)
[10:35] <jacky^> nalioth that's my sources.list
[10:36] <tiglionabbit> HaroldJohnson: I hear Debian makes a stabler server distro than Ubuntu.  Ubuntu is much more suited to a desktop distro with new blingy packages available.   I don't have X installed
[10:37] <HaroldJohnson> tiglionabbit: I want a desktop distro
[10:37] <tiglionabbit> lumberjack: no, this is about Ubuntu: Linux for Human Beings
[10:37] <NoHope> hey, I'm using Slack. I used Gentoo but I didn't like that. I'd like to ask you two things: About package management and development softwares. What do you can talk me about that?
[10:37] <tiglionabbit> HaroldJohnson: really?  Then why do you want to uninstall the gui exactly?
[10:37] <lumberjack> oh ok
[10:37] <lumberjack> my mistake
[10:37] <jacky^> nalioth thanks :)
[10:37] <HaroldJohnson> tiglionabbit: To clear space so I can perform an apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:37] <BeatYOu> nalioth: thanks, checksum errors gone
[10:37] <Seveas> NoHope, package management is absolutely fabulous
[10:37] <lumberjack> sorry dumb girl talking not me
[10:37] <HaroldJohnson> tiglionabbit: Currently my Warty installation hasn't eaten up all my HD space
[10:37] <tiglionabbit> HaroldJohnson: why don't you just get the upgraded dist in the first place then?
[10:37] <searcher`> does anyone know how to extract .cbr files (if it's an archive anyways). All i can seem to find is either MP3 related settings stuff, bandwidth throttling and C++ builder stuff. Any help would be appreciated
[10:37] <NoHope> Seveas, how does it work?
[10:38] <HaroldJohnson> tiglionabbit: Sorry, *has* eaten up my HD space
[10:38] <Seveas> NoHope, and partly due to that and partly due to great availability, software development is great too
[10:38] <TheOneEye> i need help with my ubuntu...who was i talking to again?
[10:38] <Seveas> NoHope, do you know the debian system?
[10:38] <nalioth> searcher`: .cbr and .cbz are rars and zips used for comic books
[10:38] <NoHope> Seveas, so-so... apt-get?
[10:38] <HaroldJohnson> tiglionabbit: Haven't had any success using the Hoary CD to install; special circumstances as I'm installing to an Old World Mac PowerBook G3
[10:38] <Seveas> NoHope, indeed, but there are other interfaces too
[10:38] <searcher`> nalioth: so any idea on how to read those?
[10:38] <nalioth> searcher`: see jomic.sourceforge.net for a reader
[10:38] <delire> NoHope: dpkg (via apt) arguably offers the best method for installing, maintaining and managing installations of software on computers altogether. it's suited me well for many many years.
[10:38] <TheOneEye> who can help me with my ubuntu?
[10:39] <HaroldJohnson> tiglionabbit: It's going to be easier for me to simply upgrade from my Warty install.
[10:39] <searcher`> nalioth: thank you, i'm looking
[10:39] <NoHope> Seveas, Ah... I know just two... pkgtool, from Slack and portage, from Gentoo.
[10:39] <Seveas> NoHope, apt beats these
[10:39] <Seveas> easily :)
[10:39] <nalioth> searcher`: you can also search using synaptic for "cbr cbz" in 'pkg contents'
[10:39] <TheOneEye> any1?
[10:39] <Moppin> TheOneEye, you can just ask your question in the channel.  Somebody may be able to help you.
[10:39] <tiglionabbit> and and, we've got synaptic, which is friendly too
[10:39] <Seveas> but portage comes close
[10:39] <TheOneEye> well my problem repost is long :P
[10:39] <TheOneEye> report*
[10:40] <HaroldJohnson> tiglionabbit: *And* I don't have a proper CD-ROM drive attached to my PowerBook, either...so apt-get it is!
[10:40] <NoHope> Seveas, ah... but the downloaded packages are binary or source?
[10:40] <delire> NoHope: development software depends on what you are developing. are you talking IDE's or development libraries, headers et al?
[10:40] <nalioth> TheOneEye: be succinct
[10:40] <Seveas> NoHope, binary
[10:40] <nalioth> NoHope: binary by default
[10:40] <delire> NoHope: either, tough binary by default.
[10:40] <Seveas> but source downloads are also easy
[10:40] <delire> s/tough/though
[10:40] <NoHope> Seveas, delire, Better. I had a lot of problems compiling gentoo sources.
[10:40] <tiglionabbit> HaroldJohnson: I don't see why you need to do a new install then.   I think today I will download Ubuntu to test.
[10:41] <Seveas> NoHope, try a liveCD if you're not sure :)
[10:41] <tiglionabbit> NoHope:  =}  I hope you love it
[10:41] <NoHope> Seveas, delire, tiglionabbit, thx! Bye!!!!
[10:41] <twb_> i have tried everything
[10:42] <delire> NoHope: i surveyed gentoo and found it pretty unsatisfactory really. in my benchmarks i see little different between native compiles and binaries. even with X there is little improvement. for mission critical applications (like apache) i would compile it anyway, so why use USE_FLAGS and compiling et al as a default paradigm.
[10:42] <BlueSummer_id> anyone know if it's dpkg or dkpg? and is it dpkg -I install or dkpg -I <program>
[10:42] <delire> dpkg
[10:42] <delire> dpkg -i program.deb
[10:42] <BlueSummer_id> ty
[10:42] <BlueSummer_id> :D
[10:42] <twb_> damn it damn it damn it damn it
[10:42] <HaroldJohnson> tiglionabbit: To make a long story short, I've already repartitioned and all that, and the new Warty install is currently going on.
[10:42] <Seveas> BlueSummer_id, dpkg -iinstall filename.deb
[10:43] <Seveas> BlueSummer_id, dpkg --install filename.deb
[10:43] <TheOneEye> here are the errors i get from the x diagnosis when i install my ubutu:  ati: pci mach64 in slot 5:0:0 could not be detected; ati: pci mach64 in slot 5:0:1 will not be enabled becouse it conflicts with another pci device; fatal server error: no screens found
[10:43] <Seveas> twb_, watch your language please...
[10:43] <^thehatsrule^> or just dpkg -i file.deb
[10:43] <twb_> seveas plz help
[10:43] <TheOneEye> i can only be in "text mode"
[10:43] <delire> itz: i'm sorry, you've lost me. i asked you to paste the error to a pastebin so i can continue to help you, but as you haven't yet, we can't proceed. also, no need to pm me right now. we'll get there if you are fast in delivering me the error.
[10:43] <BeatYOu> does anyone know the config option/file to overrule the access denied to many auth failures
[10:43] <BeatYOu> in webmin
[10:44] <Davey> btw, if you haven't yet installed it, Beagle ROCKS
[10:44] <SysFail> what beagle?
[10:44] <BlueSummer_id> Seveas,  ty
[10:44] <Davey> SysFail: you know Spotlight for OSX Tiger?
[10:44] <Davey> SysFail: kinda like that :)
[10:44] <SysFail> nope
[10:44] <SysFail> heh
[10:44] <mez__> grr
[10:44] <delire> Davey: hah great! very keen to know more.
[10:44] <twb_> i've partitioned my new HDD to exactly the same size as my current one, but still i can't find success
[10:44] <Davey> delire: if you have backports, apt-get install beagle :)
[10:45] <delire> Davey: i will, cheers
[10:45] <Davey> delire: right :)
[10:45] <BlueSummer_id> Davey,  what is beagle?
[10:45] <Davey> BlueSummer_id: see what I said to SysFail
[10:45] <action09> hi i've problems with Marillat depository .. what's exactly the right one please to put on Hoary ?
[10:45] <action09> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat stable main
[10:45] <action09> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main
[10:45] <action09> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main
[10:45] <delire> BlueSummer_id: or see the demos on the homepage
[10:45] <BlueSummer_id> Davey,  sorry loll, is it a desktop?
[10:45] <action09> oups not the 3 ? :-' sorry
[10:46] <mez__> hmm
[10:46] <tiglionabbit> action09: you should probably use backports instead.  Debian isn't technically compatible
[10:46] <HaroldJohnson> tiglionabbit: Once Warty is fully installed, I know I can get root access.  From there I plan to dist-upgrade to Hoary.  It seems the easiest way at this point.  I just want to get going!  Been working on this for the past week, every day and all day long.  I just want to get on with it and using Ubuntu desktop, you know what I'm saying?
[10:46] <tiglionabbit> !backports
[10:46] <ubotu> [backports]  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[10:46] <BlueSummer_id> Davey,  sorry lol, is it a desktop ?
[10:46] <Nebular> ok I got the cups admin page working, but only on localhost. I'd like to be able to access it over my network (I'm running headless)
[10:46] <action09> ok thx
[10:46] <mez__> who runs ubotu?
[10:46] <tiglionabbit> mez__: we all do
[10:46] <mjr> probably most here, why?
[10:46] <BeatYOu> UBOTU he says
[10:46] <ubotu> BeatYOu: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:46] <Nebular> I've added Allow From <IP_ADDRESS>/24, but I still can't access it outside of localhost
[10:47] <mjr> 'cause, you know, this is #ubuntu, not #windows
[10:47] <Nebular> any ideas as it what I"m missing?
[10:47] <mez__> ah,,, cause it';s gt a couple of things on it
[10:47] <delire> mez__ ubotu is an Ancient African God.
[10:47] <mez__> no who has control over it?
[10:47] <BeatYOu> read harder
[10:47] <HaroldJohnson> tiglionabbit: I'm exhausted from this installation process (on my Old World PowerBook 233GHz).  I'm ready to use the system to do what I want to do with her, which is write, surf the web, learn more about Linux/Unix, and continue to learn programming.
[10:47] <tiglionabbit> HaroldJohnson: yep.  I'm sorry, I haven't installed linux on old macs before, so I wish you good luck
[10:48] <HaroldJohnson> tiglionabbit: Don't be sorry; I thank you heartily.
[10:48] <delire> HaroldJohnson: diskspace is at a premium so you cannot upgrade?
[10:48] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: i wish i had a mac i could boot up with the disk to walk you through
[10:48] <Mez> grr@ swsusp being a PITA
[10:48] <HaroldJohnson> delire: Yes; I have 2GB and cannot perform a server installation (it appears).
[10:49] <delire> itz: talk to me here and don't pm me. "come up with any?" what? paste the error to a pastebin
[10:49] <nalioth> delire: do you know what button to push for "more options" at the installer boot menu?
[10:49] <delire> nalioth: sorry know, it's been a few months since my last ubuntu install. debian here btw.
[10:49] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: Thanks.  I have a number of obstacles, but I have faith, with the help of this helpful support crew here, that I'll get this system up and running the way I want it.
[10:49] <delire> s/know/no
[10:49] <Davey> BlueSummer_id: its a search tool, for your local machine
[10:50] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: in a couple of days, i can walk you through the procedure (i'm fixin to get new mac, and will be installing ubuntu on it)
[10:50] <Stan_> Can anyone help me with connecting to a wireless network on Ubuntu
[10:50] <delire> HaroldJohnson: i think nalioth has the right approach. a clean minimal install from the boot prompt.
[10:50] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: I'm using a very old Mac, so I don't know if you'll encounter the same issues.
[10:51] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: have faith, i know much voodoo (just cant remember which button to push at the boot prompt)
[10:51] <Mez> godamn swsusp :D
[10:51] <tritium> nalioth, the hoary liveCD doesn't work on the newer iMac
[10:51] <delire> nalioth: hah you're buying a mac. cool. after reading scathing reviews about the performance of Darwin vs Linux, i am considering a minimac and whacking ubuntu on it.
[10:51] <HaroldJohnson> delire: I just tried doing that, but the boot prompt doesn't seem to be accessible here.  It's ash, right?  I'm able to get into ash, but when I typed "server" at the prompt nothing happened.
[10:51] <nalioth> tritium: i wont be using it, i'm installing right out of the box
[10:52] <nalioth> delire: you'll love it
[10:52] <delire> HaroldJohnson: hmm.. there must be material online about this.
[10:52] <tritium> nalioth, let me know if it works.
[10:52] <mjr> delire, Shuttles are nice enough; I've got a spiffy SN95G5 amd64 box
[10:52] <nalioth> delire: the mini consumes very little power, doesnt get hot, etc etc
[10:52] <HaroldJohnson> delire: There is, but not for a server install on an Old World PowerBook.
[10:52] <nalioth> tritium: oh you all will know the results, heh heh
[10:52] <delire> nalioth: i really do hate the 'culture' of apple, i also simply cannot stand using OSX (i have to at work often). however the silence of the minimacs appeals.
[10:52] <mjr> though with two hard drives it's needing a bit of extra fanning through the gap between the HDs
[10:52] <tritium> nalioth, :)
[10:53] <delire> mjr: oolah now you're talking
[10:53] <nalioth> delire: the PPC is powerful bang for the buck, if your apps are altivec aware
[10:53] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: No worries, I'll get this up and running with yours (and others) help.  I have a feeling this next method is going to work, apt-get upgrade-dist from Warty to Hoary.
[10:53] <delire> nalioth: the same company, Asustek, that makes my laptop makes the Apple iBooks, Minimacs and iPods.
[10:53] <Mez> does anyone have a link for good resource for ACPI on hoary ?
[10:54] <nalioth> delire: yes, but the intel stuff runs up the a/c bills
[10:54] <HaroldJohnson> nalitoth: I'm simply going to clear up my disk of all the packages I can can before doing the upgrade.
[10:54] <delire> nalioth: though i've been reading that the SSE advantage is really overlooked by gcc these days. Altivec is used well albeit.
[10:54] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: you can dump the xserver and all the gui packages
[10:54] <redtech> best way to backup evolution is to tar the .evolution dir?
[10:54] <monteiro> my mouse stops for example when i open limewire :( anyone know what is the problem ?
[10:54] <HaroldJohnson> delire: When are you going to start placing those Intel chips in the Apple Powerbooks?
[10:54] <FancyPantsSCS> tell me this!!!     The PowerBook G3 series had good ergo.
[10:58] <WarriorSlayer> well i think i gonna install in the mbr
[10:58] <nalioth> WarriorSlayer: same parameters from the walkthrough should work on the floppy
[10:58] <delire> nalioth: ahah.. good to know. that plastic is kind of rugged.
[10:58] <WarriorSlayer> nalioth u mean grub-install /dev/fd0?
[10:58] <Josip> Can anyone point me to a good news (usenet) agent for Linux ?
[10:58] <FancyPantsSCS> ok
[10:58] <FancyPantsSCS> im sorry
[10:58] <nalioth> delire: yes, its lexan (stuff in bulletproof glass)
[10:58] <FancyPantsSCS> im a dumbass
[10:58] <delire> HaroldJohnson: nalioth: the next generation iBooks and PB's will continue to be made by this company Asustek, and will probably looks similar to this (i predict): http://store.agearnotebooks.com/asusw5aphotos.html
[10:58] <nalioth> Josip: pan
[10:58] <FancyPantsSCS> plz forgive me im an uber noob
[10:58] <tritium> nalioth, I don't know the power consumption of a 2 GHz intel processor, but if Apple chose intel for lower Watts/GHz, then I presume it's less...
[10:59] <WarriorSlayer> nalioth what is the default location of the floppy device?
[10:59] <WarriorSlayer> i can do grub-install floppydevlocation?
[10:59] <Josip> nalioth, thanks
[10:59] <nalioth> tritium: they chose intel because their 64-big G5s sucked power, not hte G4s we're discussing (in the mini, and 'books)
[10:59] <nalioth> WarriorSlayer: /dev/fd0 should be
[11:00] <WarriorSlayer> nalioth and it'll work with grub-install or only works making with grub-floppy?
[11:00] <stephank> I have a problem. I have four partitions, in order: win, /boot, /, and swap. I want to downsize the root partition and increase the size of the windows partition. I tried to use parted, managed to disable extended attributes, but parted still complains about a strange layout. I managed to downsize the root partition but now I need to move it. Any other way to do it?
[11:00] <HaroldJohnson> delire: Those are a bit thinner than the older Powerbooks, aren't they?
[11:00] <nalioth> WarriorSlayer: i run an ibook and am unfamiliar with the fine points of grub
[11:00] <WarriorSlayer> humm
[11:00] <WarriorSlayer> k
[11:00] <monteiro> anyone knows any tips for ubuntu to be faster ?
[11:00] <HaroldJohnson> delire: Oops, i mean the current Powerbooks.
[11:00] <WarriorSlayer> nalioth if i install in mbr there's a way to unninstall grub in the mbr?
[11:00] <twb_> ok, forget about copying a partition, is there a way to copy an entire HDD through terminal
[11:00] <twb_> ?
[11:01] <nalioth> WarriorSlayer: yes there is
[11:01] <WarriorSlayer> nalioth thanks :]
[11:01] <delire> nalioth: my m6n is carbon fibre: http://store.agearnotebooks.com/asusm6nphotos.html
[11:01] <delire> HaroldJohnson: yes..
[11:01] <tiglionabbit> monteiro: get the proper kernel image, and make sure your video acceleration is working.  Then go look in ubuntuforums.org
[11:01] <mjr> twb_, dd if=source of=destination
[11:01] <nalioth> delire: yes, i've seen them
[11:01] <mjr> twb_, that copies the partition table and all, so it's most useful on identical disks
[11:01] <delire> nalioth: the Pentium M is a great chip btw. my gf's little Asus has 5 hours battery life, 4.2 with a DVD. it's so quiet.
[11:01] <twb_> well, the sizes wont be the same
[11:01] <HaroldJohnson> delire: Thinner would make sense for Apple, and a change in color scheme to match the iPod lineup.
[11:02] <twb_> wait, they can be
[11:02] <nalioth> delire: yup, and thats what i see apple using. dual-core pentium-Ms
[11:02] <HaroldJohnson> delire: Change in color, as in something neutral, yet matching iPods.
[11:02] <nalioth> delire: in the portables, anyway
[11:02] <delire> HaroldJohnson: i agree.. i'm not sure about the company really and where it's going albeit.
[11:02] <mjr> twb_, assuming, of course, that you use whole disk devices for source and destination
[11:02] <delire> nalioth: precis.
[11:02] <delire> nalioth: and not a bad move at all.
[11:02] <twb_> they only have to be identical in size right
[11:03] <HaroldJohnson> delire and nalioth: I think Apple is also looking to lower their prices a bit, *perhaps*.  Reach more of the Mac mini market.
[11:03] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: they don't have to
[11:03] <mjr> twb_, well, they don't strictly have to be identical in size either, but then you might want to edit the partitions later...
[11:03] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: a BRAND new ibook can be had for $999
[11:03] <HaroldJohnson> delire and nalioth: No, but they *could* lower their prices, probably, once the Intel Mac hit the market.
[11:04] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: and refurbished (with full factory warranty) ibooks can be had for $799
[11:04] <Groverman> does anyone know the status of DRI support for epia main boards (M10k for example)?
[11:04] <twb_> so, there deffinitly is a way to make an exact copy of this HDD onto a brand new HDD?
[11:04] <mjr> twb_, yes
[11:04] <twb_> perfect
[11:04] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: I just bought a PowerBook for $60 (as you know) - oh yeah, and a sh*tload of hassle!
[11:04] <delire> nalioth: hehe no, though i am tempted to take up the pipe. it is a lovely smell.
[11:04] <Stan__> Still need help on connecting my ubuntu system to wireless internet.
[11:04] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: no hassle at all...CHALLENGE
[11:05] <twb_> sudo dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb ?
[11:05] <mjr> twb_, though I might opt for making new partitions there and copying the stuff over as files (cp -a will do that), you'll get a free defragment for the same price ;)
[11:05] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: Right, right, *challenge*, sure, sure.
[11:05] <mjr> twb_, yah, for example
[11:05] <pipatron> HaroldJohnson: That's a damn good price :)
[11:05] <twb_> well, im not too familiar with how to use cp
[11:05] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: makes you a better person, AND think of what you'll be able to pass on in here
[11:05] <HaroldJohnson> pipatron: Yes; shop Goodwill.  Literally: shopgoodwill.com.  I didn't get it online, though.
[11:05] <monteiro> tiglionabbit : I'VE it all good ;) 686 kernel for my pentium 4 and video accelration from nvidia-glx :)
[11:06] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: Yes, when I get her runnin' properly.
[11:06] <nalioth> y'all be good
[11:06] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: I have faith.
[11:06] <nalioth> gotta go to work
[11:06] <delire> me too
[11:06] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: Take it easy
[11:06] <Groverman> has anyone had any success with DRI in Xorg for via epia boards?
[11:06] <twb_> q!
[11:06] <HaroldJohnson> delire: Take it easy
[11:07] <HaroldJohnson> tiglionabbit: Take it easy
[11:07] <delire> you too. luck with it all.
[11:07] <HaroldJohnson> Everyone: (well, you know - take it easy)
[11:07] <mjr> twb_, by the way, linux probably won't see the partitions on the raw copy until you eg. reboot or go to fdisk and rewrite the partition table (thus telling also the kernel that the partition table should be reread)
[11:07] <HaroldJohnson> Everyone: And don't drink and install!
[11:07] <delire> ok out
[11:07] <FancyPantsSCS> anyone know of any good tuts about the file system of ubuntu
[11:07] <action09> in French ubuntu guide there are Marillat depository and sources are different in other languages :(
[11:07] <action09> damn
[11:07] <Chipmunk> What can I use to play DivX encoded AVIs? Totem Player refuses to play them.
[11:07] <Groverman> HaroldJohnson, it is quicker that way :-)
[11:08] <HaroldJohnson> Groverman: LOL.  Okay, I'm out
[11:08] <twb_> theres a problem, this HDD is larger than my destination
[11:08] <nalioth_wrkn> HaroldJohnson: when you're drunk, thats when things happen!
[11:08] <twb_> b 2 gigs
[11:08] <FancyPantsSCS> can somone give ma link to a good ubuntu tut?
[11:08] <tiglionabbit> Chipmunk: VLC plays them by default.  You can get also read restricted formats for info on that
[11:08] <twb_> bby
[11:08] <twb_> by*
[11:08] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[11:08] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:09] <FancyPantsSCS> hey im really confuysed with this filysystem can somone help?
[11:09] <Chipmunk> tiglionabbit: Great I used VLC on Windows. How do I install it? The Web site doesn't have a Ubuntu install.
[11:09] <Groverman> FancyPantsSCS, what are you thinking of?
[11:09] <lsuactiafner> FancyPantsSCS : what dont you understand?
[11:09] <tiglionabbit> Chipmunk: you should be able to get it using synaptic
[11:09] <FancyPantsSCS> lol everyhitn
[11:09] <FancyPantsSCS> g
[11:09] <Moppin> Chipmunk, apt-get intstall vlc
[11:09] <FancyPantsSCS> i just installed ubuntu a fewm inutes
[11:09] <mjr> twb_, well, then I'd recommend just partitioning it (with fdisk, cfdisk, gparted, parted, something), mke2fs -j'ing the relevant partition(s) and copying stuff over (for example, mount the new disk on /mnt, and for copying the root filesystem on it, cp -ax / /mnt
[11:09] <Groverman> FancyPantsSCS, the filestructure itself or...?
[11:09] <FancyPantsSCS> and i need to learn how to use
[11:09] <FancyPantsSCS> it
[11:10] <Groverman> oh
[11:10] <FancyPantsSCS> yeah the filestructure and everything
[11:10] <Groverman> should have a guide somewhere. hang on
[11:10] <FancyPantsSCS> i just need like agood tut for noobs
[11:10] <lsuactiafner> FancyPantsSCS : whats there to understand? /home is where your data is /etc is configurations and anything else you dont need to know about.
[11:10] <Nebular> I am unable to load the cups web page on a remote machine on my lan. I have added Allow From 192.168.1.* to my cupsd.conf and restarted cups, but I still cannot load it from my remote machine
[11:10] <FancyPantsSCS> like
[11:10] <Nebular> anyone have and idea as to why, I"m running breezy
[11:10] <FancyPantsSCS> i dont know the tree of the files
[11:10] <Groverman> lsuactiafner, i saw such a good beginnersguide when i started with linux... i wonder where i saw it
[11:10] <FancyPantsSCS> like
[11:10] <twb_> cp -ax/mnt will put windows on it?
[11:11] <Chipmunk> Moppin: Couldn't find package vlc
[11:11] <tiglionabbit> Chipmunk: you may need to add repositories
[11:12] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[11:12] <ubotu> I heard repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:12] <tiglionabbit> !sources
[11:12] <ubotu> sources is probably http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[11:12] <twb_> i tried partitioning it then writing it bt everytime it said 'not enough space' or some garbage, and i put the 2 sizes EXACTLY the same
[11:12] <bimberi> Groverman: http://tuxfiles.org ?
[11:12] <Groverman> FancyPantsSCS, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/
[11:12] <FancyPantsSCS> ty very much
[11:12] <Groverman> FancyPantsSCS, it is basic
[11:13] <Groverman> bimberi, that is good as well, yes
[11:13] <Chipmunk> tiglionabbit: Okay, I'll try that. Thanks.
[11:13] <Groverman> FancyPantsSCS, the rest you will learn by using it. at least you have an overview
[11:14] <itz> http://pastebin.com/309131    plzz help
[11:14] <Groverman> FancyPantsSCS, it is generally for Linux. not all directories exist in Ubuntu
[11:15] <aurax> hello,
[11:15] <fonsken> yo
[11:15] <aurax> can anyone tell me why on default there are iptables rules and how can i change them
[11:15] <Groverman> FancyPantsSCS, and as bimberi suggested: http://tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxdir.html gives you a very compact explanation
[11:15] <aurax> i have to clear them if i want to do some stuff on each login
[11:16] <n6mod> Anyone know what's up with the repository? lots of md5sum errors.
[11:16] <aurax> replace the us.archive to something else
[11:16] <aurax> i changed it to il.archive works perfect
[11:16] <Groverman> aurax, to make it simple, you can install firestarter and make the rules in that program instead?
[11:16] <n6mod> Ahh, thanks.
[11:16] <aurax> done it
[11:16] <aurax> no worky
[11:17] <Groverman> aurax, what did not work?
[11:17] <aurax> its not maintaine the existed rules
[11:17] <abbot45> do any of you guys use Greasemonkey in Firefox?  im having a problem.
[11:17] <apollo2011> I can't Smeg to run.  I have run it but when I click on it in the menu, a taskbar entry comes up as "Starting Smeg Menu Editor" and then goes away
[11:17] <aurax> sec i tell you what
[11:17] <aurax> failed to start the firewall
[11:17] <tiglionabbit> apollo2011: when something wont start, it's best to try running it from the terminal and see what output it gives
[11:17] <bimberi> apollo2011: Try running it from a terminal to see if there are any messages
[11:17] <aurax> an unknown error occured
[11:17] <aurax> :P
[11:18] <Groverman> aurax, "unknown"
[11:18] <tiglionabbit> aurax: I don't know
[11:18] <apollo2011> tiglionabbit, bimberi: will do
[11:18] <tiglionabbit> sorry
[11:18] <Groverman> aurax, wierd
[11:18] <aurax> totaly
[11:18] <itz> http://pastebin.com/309131  usb lacie disc problem
[11:18] <aurax> ill remove firestarter
[11:18] <aurax> its gay anyone
[11:18] <hajiki> Firefox always crashes on me on the same website ( I have 0 plugins installed ) How can I start capturing core dumps or something to submit usefully information for a bug report?
[11:18] <aurax> good ips tho
[11:18] <Groverman> aurax, you run firestarter as root?
[11:19] <aurax> yea
[11:19] <tiglionabbit> aurax: that is generally known as a "bad idea"
[11:20] <aurax> hmm
[11:20] <Groverman> aurax, try to remove it and re-install then. maybe some permissions are wrong
[11:20] <tiglionabbit> o whoops I thought you said firefox
[11:20] <aurax> tihnk i should do su aurax, apt-get install firestarter and it will load in the desktop ok ?
[11:20] <tiglionabbit> thought you said you ran firefox as root
[11:20] <itz> aurax, when i installed firefox i had to disable netcards eth0 and 1 and enable them and try different orders etc and suddenly it worked and firestarter worked like charm
[11:20] <twb_> dd is not working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:20] <apollo2011> tiglionabbit, bimberi: How do edit the menu manually? Smeg is unhappy because the last entry I added with it I put in an apostrophe (') So I can't start it until I fix that
[11:21] <Jedi> can someone send me mplayer config ./mplayer/gui.conf please?
[11:21] <aurax> how's guidedog
[11:21] <Groverman> aurax, yes. but try apt-get remove firestarter first
[11:21] <aurax> (doh) :p
[11:21] <Groverman> never tried
[11:21] <flogiston> Hi all.
[11:21] <aurax> anyone tried to install kolab on ubuntu ?
[11:21] <itz> well dont listen to me i just hade the same fault :P
[11:21] <bimberi> apollo2011: Have a look in /usr/share/applications for the file that has the bad entry
[11:21] <flogiston> Anyone who has time to help me with xorg.
[11:22] <flogiston> I use a ATI card.
[11:22] <apollo2011> bimberi: thx
[11:22] <bimberi> apollo2011: yw :)
[11:22] <Groverman> itz, aurax good idea. if you have several eth devices try to disable the ones you are not using. maybe firestarter tries to configure the wrong one
[11:23] <kzx> Not used to Gnome - is it really one common background on all workspaces???
[11:23] <Groverman> kzx, yes
[11:23] <kzx> Holy com :-|
[11:23] <apollo2011> bimberi: no its not in there.  It looks like none of the ones I added with Smeg are in that folder
[11:23] <JDahl> flogiston, you need to be specific to get help
[11:23] <kzx> cow...
[11:23] <flogiston> I get to low results in glxgears
[11:24] <Jedi> any one, help me, send me ./mplayer/gui.conf
[11:24] <Jedi> please!
[11:24] <aurax> is there a place i can see all the default iptables rules ?
[11:24] <Groverman> Jedi, i'm not using mplayer
[11:24] <itz> last chance helping me with usb then del ubuntu http://pastebin.com/309131
[11:24] <flogiston> Im using a 9600se. And I think that my xorg hasent been properly writen.
[11:25] <flogiston> JDahl where are you from?
[11:25] <Groverman> itz, what is wrong with the usb?
[11:25] <JDahl> flogiston, what does glxinfo tell you? I am no export but I think you should be looking whether DRI is setup
[11:25] <kzx> Backgrounds are how I tell the difference between my 8 desktops in KDE - I'll see if I can add some points to a feature req somewhere
[11:25] <bimberi> apollo2011: Hmm.  You could search for it using find ...
[11:25] <twb_> everytime i try dd it  says : No Space Left On DEvice...why?
[11:25] <JDahl> flogiston, living in CA - USA, but from Denmark
[11:25] <apollo2011> bimberi: tried that :-s
[11:26] <Groverman> itz, is it a camera, mp3 what?
[11:26] <flogiston> JDahl, Jag r svensk. gr det bra med privat chatt?
[11:26] <bimberi> apollo2011: k. I'm starting to struggle now.  I thought smeg managed entries in that dir
[11:27] <twb_> someone please help me with dd copyingg partitions
[11:27] <apollo2011> bimberi: ok.  I don't even know why Smeg would allow you to create an invalid entry that then would cause it to not start
[11:27] <itz> Groverman,  usb disc.. lacie
[11:27] <JDahl> flogiston, I cant help you more than I already did - I dont have hardware accelaration
[11:27] <tsw> Im having slow dns queries, what was the way to disable ipv6? (I seem to remember it was somekind of a solution)
[11:27] <flogiston> Okej
[11:27] <itz> Groverman,  lacie usb 1.1 250gb ntfs
[11:27] <flogiston> Cant find any DRI
[11:27] <ateves> is it possible to shorten folder names on the GNOME desktop? like Foobar..., so that the whole name is displayed after focussing?
[11:27] <bimberi> apollo2011: Ooh - have a look in ~/.local/share/applications/
[11:27] <itz> Groverman,  i got mp3 player on flash and that works perfect in ubuntu... jos
[11:28] <Groverman> itz, maybe it is the ntfs that is the problem then. have you set up a rule in fstab for it?
[11:28] <apollo2011> bimberi: yay! its in there. let's see if when I delete it, it gets fixed....
[11:28] <delltony> hi can someone please point me to a working solution to making xvids from dvds? I have tried to installed dvd::rip but transcode will not compile due to numerous dependency issues. i have ran dwn the list of trying to install the dependencies one by one but i can't seem to get passed libavcsscodec or something that nature. any help would be great for id lie to make xvids
[11:28] <bimberi> apollo2011: You're right - it's a bug I'd say - smeg is fairly new
[11:29] <itz> Groverman,  nope its not the fault sinec it wont show even in /dev
[11:29] <apollo2011> bimberi: it must be saved in an smeg file somewhere because not it complains about it being in a file...
[11:29] <itz> Groverman, even though its problem with ntfs it should say 250gb media something u know
[11:29] <apollo2011> bimberi:   File "<string>", line 6
[11:29] <apollo2011>     elif menuentry.DesktopFileID == 'America's Army-1.desktop':
[11:29] <apollo2011>                                              ^
[11:29] <apollo2011> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
[11:29] <twb_> dd is crap
[11:29] <delltony> hi can someone please point me to a working solution to making xvids from dvds? I have tried to installed dvd::rip but transcode will not compile due to numerous dependency issues. i have ran dwn the list of trying to install the dependencies one by one but i can't seem to get passed libavcsscodec or something that nature. any help would be great for id lie to make xvids
[11:30] <apollo2011> bimberi: that didn't print well.  the caret goes under the s in America's.  So presumably, its the apostrophe messing it up
[11:31] <daaku> any ppc users here? i cant get the live cd to boot, even after holding down the C key. i used disk utility to burn the live cd.
[11:32] <jasoncohen> anyone know of a way to download a changelog through apt-get. i know synaptic does it.
[11:32] <ateves> is it possible to shorten folder names on the GNOME desktop? like Foobar..., so that the whole name is displayed after focussing?
[11:33] <bimberi> apollo2011: You could try searching for the file with "grep -r America *" in ~/.local
[11:34] <bimberi> apollo2011: failing that - in the whole filesystem
[11:34] <apollo2011> bimberi: will do
[11:35] <Morbo> tsw - is this that you're thinking of? http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#loadwebsitefasterfirefox
[11:36] <pluffsy> but as far as I know that is something you shouldn't do since you help overload webservers and act like a jackass to other internet users
[11:36] <pluffsy> as far as I know...
[11:37] <apollo2011> Anyone using Anjuta?
[11:38] <apollo2011> Can someone plz tell me the linker and compiler paths for the includes etc.
[11:38] <tsw> Morbo: actually it was a foulty dns server that my dhcp server gave me :)
[11:38] <tsw> Morbo: but thanks
[11:39] <twb_> why does it keep saying theres no space left on it theres pleny of space i just set up the partitions!!
[11:40] <gnat_x> when i boot my install of ubuntu, i get an error about the ubuntu.png file being bad or corrupted. if i restart X a few times it works, but if i don't the login field doesn't respnd.
[11:40] <gnat_x> i was thinking replacing it might help, so was wondering if anyone could give me a tar ball of /usr/share/gdm/themes/Human/
[11:41] <gnat_x> i didn't see it when i looked in aptitude.
[11:41] <Miks> does anybody know how can i put  page "horizontal" in a open office word document? i cant find that option anywhere
[11:41] <apollo2011> Can someone plz tell me the linker and compiler paths for the includes etc.
[11:42] <inemo> Miks: File -> Print Setup
[11:42] <inemo> uh
[11:42] <inemo> s/print/page
[11:43] <inemo> then change the orientation
[11:43] <gnat_x> ww
[11:46] <apollo2011> Why isn't there a way to completely uninstall an app and delete all the files and configurations for it????!!!!!
[11:46] <cmatheson> there is
[11:46] <Stan__> Why isn't there a way to connect to the internet using Linksys?
[11:46] <asdx> How can I add support for vfat on the kernel?
[11:47] <JDahl> apollo2011, do a "purge" with dpkg
[11:47] <cmatheson> asdx: it already has it
[11:47] <cmatheson> asdx: you may need to run 'modprobe vfat'
[11:47] <asdx> ok
[11:47] <asdx> How can I add modprobe vfat every time that Ubuntu boots?
[11:47] <cmatheson> asdx: add it to /etc/modules
[11:48] <asdx> just modprobe vfat?
[11:48] <WarriorSlayer> hey guys
[11:48] <cmatheson> asdx: no, if you want to add it to that file, just 'vfat' will do
[11:48] <asdx> ok
[11:48] <asdx> thx
[11:48] <nnacht> Hi, everybody
[11:48] <WarriorSlayer> my ubuntu is 4.10 warty and it don't start X saying that could not find some modules and device not found
[11:48] <WarriorSlayer> i need to do a xf86config?
[11:49] <nnacht> i was trying to compile a qt-programm for source. but the configure says that  Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (library qt-mt) not found. what should I install?
[11:49] <twb_> i need help
[11:49] <twb_> seriouslt
[11:49] <twb_> seriously
[11:49] <x_or> I am trying to remove a user from the admin group, but usermod -G "other,groups" username doesn't seem to take, even when I log out and back in.
[11:50] <twb_> someone, anyone, help me
[11:50] <twb_> please
[11:50] <Burgundavia> twb_, what is your question?
[11:50] <nnacht> does anyone know how to do it?
[11:51] <twb_> i have tried for 5 hrs now to copy a partition onto a new HDD, but it will not work
[11:51] <cmatheson> nnacht: you'll need the -dev library
[11:51] <twb_> what can be done here
[11:51] <nnacht> cmatheson: apt-get install ????
[11:51] <cmatheson> nnacht: sure (use aptitude not apt-get though)
[11:51] <W0nk0> Eyoh Ubuntu'ians
[11:51] <nnacht> let me try
[11:52] <pipatron> twb_: You can start by trying to understand what are trying to do
[11:52] <jaross> hey
[11:52] <jaross> I need help
[11:52] <cmatheson> jaross: just ask the question
[11:52] <pipatron> jaross: Yes
[11:53] <jaross> my wep key keeps expireing on my linux mechine
[11:53] <jaross> only on my linux computer
[11:53] <jaross> I type in the same one and the internet starts working again
[11:53] <pipatron> jaross: Also your 'a' key has expired
[11:53] <nnacht> has aptitude the same syntax like apt-get, or it has only the dialog?
[11:53] <twb_> i know exactly what i am trying to do, i am using dd but it keeps saying :Not enough space, when i know damn well theres enough
[11:53] <apollo2011> Can someone plz tell me the linker and compiler paths for the includes etc.
[11:53] <EvilEye-Spinning> lol
[11:54] <cmatheson> twb_: probably not, how big is the partition you're trying to copy?
[11:54] <pipatron> twb_: YOu are using dd to copy files from a partition to another=
[11:54] <pipatron> ?
[11:54] <twb_> 40GB
[11:54] <twb_> yes i am
[11:54] <cmatheson> twb_: and how big is the partition you're trying to copy it to?
[11:54] <W0nk0> *ominous silence*
[11:55] <asdx> I can mount a floppy as root, but how can I mount as user???
[11:55] <twb_> 80 GB HDD, i made an exact partition of the source 41940.71 mb
[11:55] <asdx> and umount as well
[11:55] <cmatheson> asdx: add yourself to the floppy group i think
[11:55] <asdx> how
[11:55] <twb_> and its saying theres not enough space
[11:55] <signbarn> How do i set an environment variable such as JAVA_HOME ?
[11:55] <twb_> thats impossible
[11:55] <cmatheson> asdx: read the adduser manpage, or edit the /etc/group file (`adduser blah floppy`)
[11:56] <twb_> they're exactly the same size
[11:56] <cyphase> hey everyone
[11:56] <W0nk0> Whoops, pwned
[11:56] <kbrooks> how different is breezy from hoary atm (minus X problems)?
[11:57] <W0nk0> I have to ask, if I hook up to this channel with an old ass version of Ubuntu, will I be disconnected witha 104 error?
[11:57] <^thehatsrule^> newer...
[11:57] <cmatheson> W0nk0: no
[11:57] <twb_> cmatheson: any ideaS?
[11:58] <signbarn> Does anyone know how to set an environment variable in Ubuntu -- such as JAVA_HOME ?
[11:58] <cmatheson> twb_: i don't know, what is the command you are running exactly?
[11:58] <din> signbarn, export JAVA_HOME="varhere"
[11:58] <signbarn> thanks :-)
[11:59] <din> np
[11:59] <nybble> hey, i'm having trouble getting apache to process php files
[11:59] <nybble> anyone?
[11:59] <twb_> sudo dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb2
[11:59] <mti> anny germans?
[11:59] <asdx> I can't mount the floppy with the GNOME GUI utility... because it says that it can't specify the vfat filesystem, but I can mount using the mount utility... WTF
[11:59] <W0nk0> cmatheson - what earns the 104 error, then?
[11:59] <Stan__> My ethernet cable does not plug in to my old Win98 PC (now running ubuntu)... does anyone know how I can connect to the internet on this old PC?
[11:59] <BjoernVDM> Yes, mti.
[11:59] <cmatheson> twb_: and are they about the same size, or are they exactly the same size (the byte-count has to be exactly the same)
[11:59] <din> Stan__, get an ethernet card?
[11:59] <W0nk0> Perhaps the addition of an Ethernet card would assist, Stan__
[12:00] <asdx> What whould I do???
[12:00] <cmatheson> W0nk0: bad network settings