[01:58] <puff> I'm not sure what the heck is going on, but this is crazy-making.
[01:59] <puff> The universal advice about "The installer encountered an error copying files to the hard disk:  [Errno 5] Input/output error." is to burn a new disk, preferably at the slowest possible speed.
[01:59] <puff> Which I'm trying, but so far I've gone through about 5 CDs, every one of whci got me some sort of "an error occurred message.    I don't remember seeing that option...
[02:13] <superm1> most boxes manufacturered in the last few years can
[02:14] <puff> Yeah, but it's a coupel years old... right at that in-between point.
[02:14] <puff> I have a handful of 4B USB keys here.
[02:15] <puff> I had to fiddle the boot order on the myth-box-to-be several times, and it didn't list USB boot as an option, I'm pretty sure.
[02:15] <puff> Asus p4p800s-x motherboard.
[02:16] <puff> Hm, proving hard to find a clear answer on google.
[02:17] <puff> Damn, I hate search engine spam.
[02:17] <Zinn> puff: Please watch your language.
[02:19] <puff> Hm, found a forum post that sort of implies it's a default behavior:
[02:19] <puff> http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20080117231949171&board_id=1&model=P4P800S-X&page=1&SLanguage=en-us
[02:19] <puff> Okay, so I'll give it a shot... hm.
[02:20] <puff> Hm, so how do you make a mythbuntu bootable USB installer?
[02:21] <puff> E.g. if oyu just want to make a bootable ubuntu thumbdrive, you just install to the USB device.
[02:21] <puff> Ah, there's a section in the manual about it.
[02:21] <superm1> use usb-creator
[02:26] <puff> Ah, that's only for making a client thumbdrive, not an installer.
[02:28] <superm1> nope, that's for making an installer
[02:28] <superm1> https://edge.launchpad.net/usb-creator
[02:29] <puff> superm1: No, I meant the manual section about thumb drives.
[02:29] <superm1> oh
[02:32] <puff> REading up on usb-creator now...
[03:34] <puff> Yay, it works.
[03:34] <puff> Now  I just need to put some media on that bio.
[03:34] <puff> Dang dog
[03:34] <puff> Sorry, dog decided to come put his head on my keyboard.
[03:37] <puff> Anyway, now I just need to stick a few of my larger media-containing drives onto that machine.
[03:37] <puff> And also look into getting a cable card or somethign.
[05:09] <MarcT> hello
[05:10] <MarcT> I was told I might be able to find an ubuntu myth maintainer in here.
[05:20] <puff> Dunno.
[05:20] <puff> a
[05:21] <puff> This is something of a slow motion channel... MarcT: The folks here have ben very slow to respond, but helpful when they do.
[05:21] <puff> MarcT:  So, ask your question and hang around to wait for the answer :-).
[05:22] <MarcT> I was told that the ubuntu maintainers might be able to assist with inserting the svn revision into the version.cpp.
[05:23] <MarcT> I'm using gentoo which has a method that is supposed to do it, but that method is broken. And that finding out how it is done in ubuntu might help me resolve that issue.
[13:17] <oobe> MarcT, wow this was ages ago but i think if you need help you will need to be more specific about the source and package you are refering to
[13:28] <MarcT> mythtv
[13:29] <MarcT> I found a dirty fix, copy the .svn in to the working folder.
[23:29] <Technophil> Can someone advise me on fixing "broken apt package cache" when trying to re-enable mythtv on mythbuntu 9.04 that I think was originally 8.10?
[23:37] <Technophil> Seems to me there has become version conflict between 8.10 and 9.04


[09:46] <blatyo> I'm having trouble getting direct rendering to run
[09:46] <cables> bouter, I think your card is covered there.
[09:46] <Dallur> LjL: thanks, I will try to figure it out later
[09:46] <maimster> Hopposai: I have a graphical running....  I still like my irc running via terminal.
[09:46] <adaptr> maimster: I did not claim anything one way or the other, merely corrected you in stating that bitchx is not in any way dependent on X
[09:46] <pbureau> bouter, come to #ubuntu-wifi Ill help you
[09:47] <maimster> adaptr: I know. i thought you were stating that fact that BitchX was a commandline base client is all.  No biggie though.
[09:47] <dc2447> is there anything in ubuntu I have to enable in order to get scripts in /etc/cron.daily to execute?
[09:47] <adaptr> maimster: yes, I was
[09:47] <pestilence> dc2447: shouldn't be.
[09:47] <suzylee> pestilence: I posted you the output
[09:47] <maimster> adaptr: Then I agree.  What client are you running, (just being nosey now).
[09:48] <adaptr> dc2447: copy the syntax from another one; they don't even have to be executable
[09:48] <adaptr> maimster: this is K
[09:48] <pestilence> suzylee: i don't see it.
[09:48] <dc2447> I'm nort even seeing the the script getting invoked in cron.log (I updated the default syslog settings)
[09:48] <maimster> adaptr: Ahh cool.  I have never used K.
[09:48] <UberPsyX> help, getting error when trying to install a deb file, dependency is not satisfiable: python. wtf?
[09:48] <LjL> UberPsyX: which deb file?
[09:49] <Hopposai> n
[09:49] <suzylee> pestilence: 22354  0.0  0.3   2888   812 pts/0    S+   07:50   0:00 grep updatedb
[09:49] <pestilence> suzylee: oh, so it's not running
[09:49] <adaptr> maimster: it's pretty near perfect, execpt for advanced stuff like  selecting out different users to a virtual channel to keep the clutter down (bitchx can do this)
[09:49] <pestilence> suzylee: is your hard drive still churning?
[09:49] <suzylee> pestilence: the HDD just stopped anyway
[09:50] <UberPsyX> LjL, gnomeboyadvance, a front end for visualboyadvance
[09:50] <maimster> adaptr: I do that also with irssi.
[09:50] <Spino_> hi, a quick question, how do i switch the startup splash screen (and see dmesg on boot?)
[09:50] <LjL> UberPsyX: link please - i don't see it in the repos
[09:50] <pestilence> suzylee: problem solved then :)
[09:50] <reap> how hard is it to set up a raid array on ubuntu?
[09:50] <HymnToLife> Spino_, remove the splash from your kernel line in gub
[09:50] <LjL> Spino_: remove "quiet splash" from the kernel command line
[09:50] <HymnToLife> grub, even
[09:50] <adaptr> reap: 3 minutes
[09:50] <reap> using an onboard promise ATA100 controller
[09:50] <Spino_> tnx
[09:51] <Spino_> there's no way to do it on the fly (say, manu linuxes would do it with esc)
[09:51] <Spino_> ?
[09:51] <Julien_> hi
[09:51] <adaptr> reap: use soft raid (aka linux kernel raid) , and shove the onboard crap down the drain...
[09:51] <blatyo> I'm trying to enable direct rendering, I have an ati card using fglrx driver, how can I do it?
[09:51] <LjL> Spino_: no, not on Edgy
[09:51] <Spino_> LjL: ok, thanks. thats kinda strange though :)
[09:51] <UberPsyX> LjL, http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/GnomeBoyAdvance-Download-3467.html
[09:51] <saras> saras@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -i skype_debian-<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[09:51] <LjL> Spino_: you can probably make the splash screen go away (with Alt+Fsomething rather than just Esc, i think), but you still won't see the messages
[09:51] <saras> (Reading database ... 58821 files and directories currently installed.)
[09:51] <saras> Preparing to replace skype <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (using skype_debian-<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb) ...
[09:51] <saras> Unpacking replacement skype ...
[09:51] <saras> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype:
[09:51] <saras>  skype depends on libqt3-mt | libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:<IP_ADDRESS>); however:
[09:51] <saras>   Package libqt3-mt is not installed.
[09:51] <saras>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[09:51] <reap> adaptr: thanks, is it just as efficient as the onboard?
[09:52] <Julien_> i have a laptop pc, and i want to download ubuntu 6.10 with torrent file, so i use this file: ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent ?
[09:52] <Spino_> LjL: do you know if it's the same in kubuntu by any chance?
[09:52] <LjL> Julien_: i'd say so
[09:52] <HymnToLife> Julien_, you can use it if you want
[09:52] <cables> Julien_, that should work.
[09:52] <LjL> Spino_: i'm running kubuntu. yes.
[09:52] <Julien_> there is another one: ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[09:52] <adaptr> reap: it is a. 100% supported, b. 100% safe, and c. doesn't suck , like every single on-board fake-raid solution ever devised.
[09:52] <cables> Julien_, use the desktop cd
[09:52] <HymnToLife> Alternate ftw.
[09:52] <reap> lol
[09:52] <cables> Julien_, alternate is text-based.
[09:52] <Spino_> LjL: allright, thanks again
[09:53] <Julien_> ok thank you
[09:53] <reap> adaptr: i have a Promise PCI raid card...how will that work...any idea if the 2 raid setups will be an issue?
[09:53] <UberPsyX> LjL, http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/GnomeBoyAdvance-Download-3467.html
[09:53] <adaptr> reap: just FYI, every. single. so-called on-board raid "solution" is in fact fake.. there is nothing hardware-based about it
[09:53] <adaptr> reap: 2 raid "setups " ?
[09:53] <reap> so its just a softbios onboard?
[09:54] <reap> ya
[09:54] <adaptr> reap: it's properly called "host-based raid", which is the correct term for any system that does not present the raid set to the BIOS as if it were one drive
[09:54] <adaptr> reap: true hardware RAID makes the individual drives invisible to the PC
[09:55] <adaptr> reap: but if you want to mess around with the Promise "solution" be my guest... I'd just ditch it and go for kernel raid
[09:55] <reap> adaptr: thanks for your help...i am gonna be using ubuntu to slap together a low end server to play with later today...just wanted to know what i was in for
[09:56] <saras> who can tell me something about installing programs on ubuntu, i have a problem...  in private chat, please :(
[09:56] <quintin> reap: debian + sw raid = happiness
[09:56] <Hopposai> you forget how much you depend on the WM
[09:56] <adaptr> reap: install server 6.06 LTS, it will be supported until 2009 or something, takes about 30 mijnutes including disks
[09:56] <reap> adaptr: i dont care of teh onboard stuff...but i do have a PCI Promise Card that i bought that i would like to use in addition
[09:56] <adaptr> reap: just hang single drives off it then, not more than 1 per cable (or you performance will magically disappear)
[09:56] <Hopposai> reap: i have used 6.06 as well as 6.10 for servers
[09:57] <Hopposai> reap: either server version of ubuntu will serve you well
[09:57] <quintin> reap: lies. use debian!
[09:57] <adaptr> Hopposai: don't spread the noise please
[09:57] <rattlerviper> I used easy ubuntu and now ubuntu crashes all the time :(
[09:57] <rattlerviper> how do I fix it?
[09:57] <Zarathustra> Heya. I get a "The X11 driver is missing.  Check your build!" when trying to run wine. Any ideas on how to correct this? I tried reinstalling my ati-drivers to no avail, got the idea that it's something basic I'm missing here...
[09:58] <reap> quintin: thanks, but i like all that ubuntu offers...its just too well done for me to piss around with debian...but thanks for your input, its much appreciated
[09:58] <Hopposai> rattlerviper: do you have a crash message?
[09:58] <rattlerviper> No...Gaim just crashes now when I connect
[09:58] <saras> can someone help me in private? :(
[09:58] <quintin> rattlerviper: what about typing 'gaim' in a terminal?
[09:58] <reap> hopposai: btw...thats a good anime series 2 thumbs up
[09:59] <quintin> reap: ubuntu is debian.. :p
[09:59] <rattlerviper> Hopposai, yeah I tried the terminal I don't get a error message
[09:59] <Cheetah> are there many people using ubuntu dapper?
[09:59] <Hopposai> saras: well depends on if you're cute and female 8-)
[09:59] <rattlerviper> Hopposai, it's only when I connect to jabber
[09:59] <reap> quintin: im a nub...forgive me...i havent touched a linux installation since the turn of the century
[09:59] <Jac1> ok, two questions. ONE) I unplugged my Hard Drive to try and boot ubuntu from the CD but now all i get is a loud beeping that won't stop (even when i plug it back in) and nothing appears on screen, How can i fix this? TWO) Does anyone know of any NES/SNES/GBA Emulators for linux?
[09:59] <Cheetah> or did most of them upgrade?
[09:59] <adaptr> it rocks for servers, so yes
[10:00] <ompaul> Cheetah, I use it for work desktops for people
[10:00] <adaptr> Jac1: ONE: you screwed up something on your mainboard, possible the video card, possibly something else
[10:00] <ompaul> Cheetah, where users want stability
[10:00] <quintin> saras: I've sent you *two* PMs.
[10:00] <ian|> Hi! I'm trying to compile alsa-sources with 2.6.19 kernel, but I get the error that "linux/config.h" cannot be found? Does anybody have some hints, what could be the problem?
[10:00] <Cheetah> ompaul: I have to put together some kind of system that I install by default on Point Of Sale PCs, so dapper is the way to go, right?
[10:01] <Hopposai> rattlerviper: only jabber? in that case see if you have all the files installed.. last time that happened to me i had to install nss and nspr
[10:01] <ian|> I use the debian/rules script to start compilation (target binary_modules)
[10:01] <ompaul> Cheetah, I would if that is what I was doing
[10:01] <Zarathustra> Heya. I get a "The X11 driver is missing.  Check your build!" when trying to run wine. Any ideas on how to correct this? I tried reinstalling my ati-drivers to no avail, got the idea that it's something basic I'm missing here...
[10:01] <quintin> reap: ubuntu is built on debian unstable/testing.  I use debian for all my servers.  my personal desktop is ubuntu
[10:01] <quintin> Zarathustra: /join #winehq
[10:01] <Cheetah> ompaul: alright. are there any drawbacks I might have compared to the latest ubuntu?
[10:01] <rattlerviper> Hopposai, thank you I'll go check now
[10:01] <LjL> UberPsyX: that package requires a version of Python less than 2.4, and Ubuntu comes with 2.4. i guess it was made for an older Debian (remember anyway that, in general, packages made for Debian are far from guaranteed to work with Ubuntu)
[10:01] <Jac1> adaptr: how do i fix that? just poke around at stuff till it works? :P
[10:01] <saras> :(
[10:02] <Zarathustra> quintin: k thanks
[10:02] <Hopposai> jacl: you have a hardware problem as far as i can see.. tighten all the cards, maybe clean the cobwebs and the rat turds out of the casing..
[10:02] <saras> where is it?
[10:02] <adaptr> Jac1: that depends on how rich you are, I guess
[10:02] <ompaul> Cheetah, none for what you want to do - just make sure you got hardware that you can work with - i.e. straight off the shelf - nothing too fancy run of the mill and it should all be great
[10:02] <saras> i dont understand anything there
[10:02] <quintin> saras: ...
[10:03] <Jac1> adaptr: lol it doesn't really matter if everything goes caput, old machine
[10:03] <Jac1> Hopposai: kk, will try
[10:03] <Hopposai> saras: neither do we, we're just making it up as we go along
[10:03] <adaptr> Jac1: re-seat the video card, yes
[10:03] <Cheetah> ompaul: the hardware will be all standard, not even a fancy graphics card. alright. I'll go with dapper then.  :)
[10:03] <suzylee> does gparted support ntfs resizing?
[10:03] <adaptr> Jac1: also make SURE you do a complete cold boot
[10:03] <Hopposai> suzylee: the latest one on the livecd does
[10:04] <reap> whats the easiest windows file sharing program?
[10:04] <reap> somba?
[10:04] <Hopposai> suzylee: make sure you defrag and check the ntfs partition for errors BEFORE you resize
[10:04] <ompaul> Cheetah, there is only one thing you will want to consider in the future that is this new init script but wait for the next lts for it - parallel init scripts but not on a short term one
[10:04] <suzylee> Hopposai: is that version <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[10:04] <quintin> reap: samba
[10:04] <Jac1> adaptr: ahem, cold boot?
[10:04] <adaptr> Jac1: unplug power, wait 1 minute, plug i power
[10:04] <suzylee> Hopposai: I want to create a separate partition on my notebook 120gig HDD so I can install Edgy.  Will  gparted liveCD help me do that without losing MS Windows which is already on the HDD?
[10:05] <Jac1> adaptr: ok, thanks
[10:05] <Jac1> adaptr: so unplug power, poke around a bit, tighten cards etc. then wait 1 minute?
[10:05] <x2mjokada> hey guys, i'm trying to set up my network printer, and i'm running 'sudo hp-setup' but it gives me this error: error: No devices found.
[10:05] <x2mjokada> error: Error occured during interactive mode. Exiting.
[10:05] <x2mjokada> any help?
[10:05] <dyrne> suzylee: yes but back up anything you cant afford to lose first. there are occationally problems
[10:05] <adaptr> Jac1: you should unplug the power before you touch anything inside, yes
[10:05] <Lunar_Lamp> !adventure
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adventure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <suzylee> dyrne: ok
[10:06] <Lunar_Lamp> Hmm, are there any other text-based games like "adventure" in the ubuntu repositories?
[10:06] <suzylee> dyrne: will partition magic be better to use for that?
[10:06] <adaptr> Jac1:  if you did not unplug the power before yanking out the HD, you may very well have fscked your computer
[10:06] <adaptr> !Nethack | Lunar_Lamp
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nethack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <adaptr> stupid friggin bot flying piece of shite!
[10:07] <Lunar_Lamp> adaptr, nethack isn't the same kind of text based game.
[10:07] <adaptr> BLASPHEMY
[10:07] <Lunar_Lamp> It's nothing like the same kind of game!
[10:07] <adaptr> sure, but fuckbot not knowing about it is INEXCUSABLE
[10:07] <Lunar_Lamp> Hehe, true :-)
[10:08] <Lunar_Lamp> Does anyone know of a game similar to Adventure then?
[10:08] <NetCruZa> Any memory editors for linux, that works like TSearch?
[10:08] <dyrne> suzylee: i used to be wary of parted but it seems pretty robust now and to be honest im more worried about norton these days so either or i guess
[10:09] <yaman> any one can help me to get the asus laptop drivers for ubuntu (wifi or camera or modem or even vga)
[10:09] <patrick_> could someone PM me with the text of /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf and /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[10:10] <Dybber> How do i change the default browser? Links opened from xchat and gaim will open in lynx :s
[10:10] <NetCruZa> patrick_: i will
[10:10] <patrick_> thanks NetCruZa
[10:11] <sebrock> lasse__, I worked it out, it was gateway that needed to be specified
[10:12] <shawn> hrm nvidia drivers says  i need binutils, whats that about?
[10:13] <billybob> any rsync pros around ?
[10:13] <yaman> any tutorial for how to install hardware drivers ?
[10:13] <tim167> doe these work for anyone ? : http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9631/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run
[10:13] <alicen68> why is it when i type the cd command in terminal it tells me "rbash: cd: restricted"?
[10:13] <NetCruZa> patrick_: have you recieved it?
[10:14] <kcinna> hey all
[10:15] <alicen68> why is it when i type the cd command in terminal it tells me "rbash: cd: restricted"?
[10:15] <kcinna> ubuntu wont recognize my ipod, dmesg indicates that it's at /dev/sde, but it says sde2 doesnt exist
[10:15] <LesterGreen> anyone have a guide to learn linux quickly... a good overall primer. command line stuff and filesystem stuff really?
[10:15] <fiberchunks> kcinna, wouldn't it be /dev/sde1 ?
[10:16] <patrick_> no i didnt NetCruZa
[10:16] <comradeC> is there any kind of task viewer like the one in vista for linux?
[10:16] <NetCruZa> patrick_: well, the first file is empty, and I posted the other one here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5610/
[10:16] <erf> ~
[10:16] <erf> ~\\
[10:16] <patrick_> thank you!
[10:16] <LesterGreen> /server irc.gamesurge.net
[10:16] <LesterGreen> oops
[10:16] <erf><PHONE_NUMBER>000000001020000000000.
[10:17] <erf> 3.
[10:17] <erf><PHONE_NUMBER>5120.*/89523
[10:17] <erf> 0.-*+96
[10:17] <erf> 3.*/20.
[10:17] <erf> ouch sorry cleaning the keyboard
[10:17] <erf> :/
[10:17] <erf> havent been on this box for a while
[10:17] <kcinna> fiberchunks: i read a guide saying it would be 2 since one is for the firmware partition, but that doesnt work either
[10:17] <erf> Hostname: stagma.ath.cx - OS: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE/i386 - CPU: 2 x Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (367.50-MHz 686-class CPU) - Processes: 29 - Uptime: 258d 16h 20m - Load Average: 0.00 - Memory Usage: 36.58MB/115.46MB (31.68%) - Disk Usage: 6.28GB/35.88GB (17.52%)
[10:17] <alicen68> why is it when i type the cd command in terminal it tells me "rbash: cd: restricted"?
[10:17] <adaptr> comradeC: "vista for Linux" :)
[10:17] <fiberchunks> kcinna, ah, hrm
[10:18] <Spee_Der> comradeC: I use system monitor.
[10:18] <icheyne> how come when I install a package using the NO RECOMMENDS flag, it tries to uninstall other unrelated stuff?
[10:18] <comradeC> sorry maybe I said something wrong
[10:18] <icheyne> sorry I was using aptitude!
[10:18] <comradeC> I mean the task manager thats 3d that shows all your windows
[10:18] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68, you're using the rbash envirconment which is really strict security-wise on what you can and can't do.  cd is something you aren't allowed to do evidently (or at least, not to that dir)
[10:19] <adaptr> comradeC: that would be a task *switcher*, and yes - beryl does that 3d
[10:19] <alicen68> Lunar_Lamp: how do i get rid of rbash and just go back to bash?
[10:19] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68, are you an administrator on your box?
[10:20] <fiberchunks> kcinna, kinda convoluted, but you could try using a partitioning tool to look at what partitions actually exist on /dev/sde (and then try to mount them) -- does the ipod use the vfat or fat filesystem? (I don't have one personally)
[10:20] <alicen68> Lunar_Lamp: through sudo, yes
[10:20] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68, hmm, did you set rbash up yourself?
[10:20] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68, does it happen every time you open up a terminal, or just this one time?
[10:20] <niko_> was there a bad update? after restarting x won't start
[10:21] <reap> probably a dumb question
[10:21] <reap> but if i wanna get somba
[10:21] <alicen68> Lunar_Lamp: i'm a friend of this user trying to figure out what's wrong with this pc, i had never even heard of rbash
[10:21] <reap> samba
[10:21] <reap> i need the debian one yes?
[10:21] <alicen68> Lunar_Lamp: it's every time i load up terminal
[10:21] <linxeh> reap: why not use the ubuntu one ?
[10:21] <reap> where is it?
[10:21] <erf> ~+/--+
[10:21] <linxeh> "samba"
[10:21] <cheeseboy16> whats the code to make a shortcut
[10:21] <linxeh> sudo apt-get install samba
[10:21] <HymnToLife> ubotu, tell reap about samba | reap, see the private message from ubotu.
[10:21] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68, ok, then the default shell is probably set to rbash in /etc/passwd - you can edit that file for the user to set it as bash.
[10:22] <HymnToLife> cheeseboy16, define "shortcut"
[10:22] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68, however, if you don't know the file, it can be dangerous to edit.
[10:22] <reap> thank you
[10:22] <cheeseboy16> link to another file]
[10:22] <erf> alrighty
[10:22] <erf> working
[10:22] <cikas> i dont know how to make my tvtuner work
[10:22] <linxeh> cheeseboy16: if you mean a windows shortcut, then it isnt a link to another file
[10:22] <Lunar_Lamp> cheeseboy16, you mean how to symlink to another file?
[10:22] <cikas> in xp on the same pc is working
[10:22] <erf> is it possible to install beryl on freebsd?
[10:23] <cheeseboy16> i mean like windows shortcut
[10:23] <linxeh> cheeseboy16: the closest thing in linux is a browser bookmark, or a symbolic link (symlink)
[10:23] <dyrne> alicen68: "sudo sed -i 's/rbash/bash/g' /etc/passwd "   would be safe enough id think
[10:23] <cikas> doaes anybody knows about tvtuner?
[10:23] <alicen68> Lunar_Lamp: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash
[10:23] <linxeh> generally linux doesnt have a concept the same as "shortcut" in windows
[10:23] <NetCruZa> Any memory editors for linux, that works like TSearch?
[10:24] <cheeseboy16> k.. how do i do it?
[10:24] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68, the root user there has their default shell set as bash.  Try pasting the whole contents of the file to pastebin
[10:24] <Lunar_Lamp> !pastebin | alicen68
[10:24] <ubotu> alicen68: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:24] <linxeh> cheeseboy16: http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/ or something
[10:24] <linxeh> cheeseboy16: hundreds of tutorials came up when i googled for "linux symlink tutorial"
[10:25] <cbx33> is it easy for us to remaster an ubuntu live cd now?
[10:25] <alicen68> Lunar_Lamp: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5613/
[10:25] <maxamillion> how long should it take the installer to change the size of an 80gb partition to a 60gb partition?
[10:25] <cikas> doaes anybody have tvtuner on pc?
[10:26] <jk> Hi! I'm running ubuntu on a small webserver. Is it normal that there are like 9 apache processes and 18 mysql daemon processes runing (when checking with pstree) ?
[10:26] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68:x:1000:0:Alice Snyder,,,:/home/alicen68:/bin/rbash <== that line there [28]  change the very last bit from "/bin/rbash" to "/bin/bash".
[10:27] <cheeseboy16> cikas:, yes
[10:27] <alicen68> Lunar_Lamp: still saying restricted
[10:27] <AndrewWilliams> is there any way to force gnome sensors applet to detect a item under libsensors as a temp and not a voltage? the "sensors" command line shows it correctly but the applet doesnt
[10:28] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68, hmm, the user may need to login and logout - at the very least start a new session.
[10:28] <linxeh> cikas: yes, I have 2
[10:28] <suzylee> if I install Xbuntu 6.10 on my notebook, should it automatically install the Nivda 7300 graphic card drivers for me?
[10:28] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68, did the file save correctly? You will need to use "sudo" to edit the file.
[10:28] <htaccess> hi my sshagent seems to have died and now i have to type my passphrase every time i ssh anywhere, how do i restart the agent so it works properly on ubuntu?
[10:28] <linxeh> jk: yes that is normal
[10:28] <cikas> and how can i do mine working?
[10:28] <jk> linxeh: ok good to hear that :)
[10:28] <AndrewWilliams> suzylee, it should pick it up and use the NV driver for X, but for 3d acceleration you may need to download the nvidia drivers
[10:28] <alicen68> Lunar_Lamp: let me double-check the file, but it should work
[10:29] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68, it's also possible that the bashrc file also is wanting to load up as rbash rather than normal bash :-)
[10:29] <linxeh> cikas: read the wiki / forums. there are lots of tutorials on getting "video4linux" and "mythtv" working
[10:29] <cypherdelic> so
[10:29] <suzylee> AndrewWilliams: download the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website?
[10:29] <linxeh> cikas: it's not particularly easy for some cards, and some are impossible
[10:29] <linxeh> cikas: : which card do you have ?
[10:29] <visik7> which memory subdivision use ubuntu kernel generic 1/3 3/1 2/2 or 4/4 ?
[10:29] <linxeh> suzylee: no, from the ubuntu repositories
[10:30] <cikas> how can i find what card i have?
[10:30] <linxeh> cikas: :well, you bought it surely ?
[10:30] <dyrne> cikas: lspci -v  or sudo lshw maybe
[10:30] <suzylee> linxeh: how do I do that please?
[10:30] <linxeh> suzylee: if you tell synaptic to use the universe and multiverse, you can install "nvidia-kernel-common" and "nvidia-glx" etc
[10:30] <AndrewWilliams> suzylee, nvidia-glx - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver
[10:30] <linxeh> suzylee: the ubuntu wiki has several guides on getting it to work
[10:31] <cypherdelic> i reinstalled ubuntu edgy server now and installed cryptsetup. i got everything working as long as i use root=/dev/sda2 for kernel-line (menu.lst) . but i need to use root=/dev/mapper/root, if i do so, startup hangs
[10:31] <cikas> bt878
[10:31] <cypherdelic> please help
[10:31] <_3oo3> howdy
[10:31] <cypherdelic> how to make /dev/mapper/root an early cryptdisk
[10:31] <_3oo3> someone told me that ubuntu was african for 'I cant figure out Debian'.....is this true?
[10:31] <cikas> dyrne:bt878
[10:32] <ubuntujoop> can opera be installed in kubuntu ?
[10:32] <linxeh> cikas: that chipset is well supported - there are guides for setting it up
[10:32] <cypherdelic> i think it needs to be loaded before the main cryptdisks, because its the root
[10:32] <cypherdelic> but iot doesnt
[10:32] <suzylee> linxeh: can you give me a link to this guide you speak about?
[10:32] <cikas> give me a link pls
[10:32] <linxeh> suzylee: its in the topic
[10:32] <linxeh> cikas: use the links in the topic
[10:32] <NetCruZa> Any memory editors for linux, that works like TSearch?
[10:32] <NickGarvey> what command will tell me how much RAM I have?
[10:32] <linxeh> NickGarvey: "free"
[10:32] <erUSUL> NickGarvey: free
[10:32] <boom> Help me please ... I want to play a game ... windows game ...
[10:32] <suzylee> linxeh: which link?
[10:32] <NickGarvey> hah, thanks
[10:32] <boom> what I need
[10:32] <boom> ?
[10:32] <NickGarvey> I know that actually
[10:33] <NickGarvey> knew*
[10:33] <NickGarvey> hm, question 2 then
[10:33] <_3oo3> someone told me that ubuntu was african for 'I cant figure out Debian'.....is this true?
[10:33] <NickGarvey> it is not detecting both sticks..
[10:33] <NickGarvey> let me see if the bios.. sees it..
[10:33] <linxeh> suzylee: www.ubuntu.com/support I guess ?
[10:33] <cypherdelic> i reinstalled ubuntu edgy server now and installed cryptsetup. i got everything working as long as i use root=/dev/sda2 for kernel-line (menu.lst) . but i need to use root=/dev/mapper/root, if i do so, startup hangs
[10:33] <UrteTe> hi. is it possible to make a symlink to a remote server using ftp?
[10:33] <suzylee> linxeh: you guess?  you not sure either?
[10:33] <bogus> Kopete
[10:34] <linxeh> suzylee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[10:34] <xavier___> hi. how do i disable gdm boot .. keeping only console login?
[10:34] <linxeh> suzylee: it really isnt hard to find the wiki link from www.ubuntu.com...
[10:34] <bogus> Witam
[10:34] <boom> What I need to play an exe game ??
[10:34] <dyrne> UrteTe: you could use sshfs i guess but im not sure of solution for ftp..
[10:35] <Hopposai> hmm sound STILL doesn't work
[10:35] <linxeh> boom: wine, or if you want an easy life, cedega (www.cedega.com) or crossover office - www.codeweavers.com
[10:35] <drake> boom: WINE
[10:35] <Hopposai> uninstalled alsa, and had to reinstall a whole BUNCH of software.
[10:36] <boom> were can i get wine ?
[10:36] <dyrne> boom: wine or cedega. cedega might be easier to configure but it has a minimal fee. /join cedega for info maybe
[10:36] <Hopposai> boom: a liquor shop?
[10:36] <UrteTe> dyrne: thanks
[10:36] <cypherdelic> Help, im trying to encrypt my root, i got "no cryptroot configured,skipping". Works fine if I use old Root for startup and mount the encrypted partitions as additional encryptioned disks
[10:36] <linxeh> boom: sudo apt-get install wine
[10:36] <Hopposai> boom: wine can be got by enabling the multiverse on your sources.list file and then using apt-get
[10:37] <boom> linxeh doesn`t find ... wine:(
[10:37] <linxeh> boom: you need to enable multiverse
[10:37] <boom> how?
[10:37] <linxeh> Hopposai just told you...
[10:37] <Hopposai> boom: can you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[10:38] <sidny4> does anyone know the directory to put themes in (manual install)
[10:38] <boom> i don`t know how :(
[10:38] <Hopposai> boom: distro and version please?
[10:38] <tretle> can anyone tell me if ntfs writing has been added to the feisty fawn herd 3 release?
[10:38] <dan_> sidny4 it's just your .themes folder
[10:38] <Hopposai> boom: can you use a command line?
[10:39] <sidny4> haha, the one place I didn't think of, thanks dan_
[10:39] <Hopposai> tretle: i think its in ntfs-3g mackage in multiverse
[10:39] <dan_> lol
[10:39] <boom> ubuntu 5.10
[10:39] <dan_> it's in your home folder
[10:39] <tretle> hopposai, Its not added as default?
[10:39] <Hopposai> boom: do you know how to use a command line/command line editor
[10:40] <boom> no
[10:40] <Hopposai> tretle: not sure on that, it may not be. depends on how the community reacts to it. enabling ntfsread-write by default can have SERIOUS consequences
[10:40] <dyrne> tretle: im not seeing ntfs-3g on my machine
[10:40] <Hopposai> boom: ok, lets start simple then
[10:41] <dyrne> tretle: herd 3
[10:41] <tretle> its in early stages of developement then? yes?
[10:41] <Hopposai> boom: apt-get install synaptic
[10:41] <huXfluX> hello all! i have a laptop with a touchpad and a mouse attached on usb. If i go to control panel > periph > mouse and lower the acceleration, it lowers it for touchpad ONLY. How can i modify the acceleration of the MOUSE?
[10:41] <Hopposai> tretle: ntfs-3g is pretty mature, but anything that touches NTFS is bound to be unstable.
[10:41] <andrea> hola alguien que hable espaol
[10:41] <bcardarella> I'm getting a 'make not found' error for a program I am trying to install... I user apt-get to install gcc, is there anything else that needs installation for make?
[10:41] <boom> i have it
[10:42] <BrendanM> huXflux, how is your xorg.conf setup
[10:42] <BrendanM> andrea, hablo un poco espanol
[10:42] <xavier___> hi. it seems my hard disk is full ... and now i gdm cannot write its configuration file in the /etc ... wht should i do? i deleted lots of stuff .. how much free space is reqd for login?
[10:42] <cikas> i type sudo gedit.etc/modules  and the answer was command not found
[10:42] <BrendanM> !es | andrea
[10:42] <ubotu> andrea: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:42] <boom> Hopposai what i do now
[10:42] <tretle> and dosn anyone know of any open source software comparable to dreamweaver suit?
[10:42] <dan_> hey guys, im trying to compile the mesa dri source from cvs in order to enable dri on the r300 chipset of radeon cards, but it keeps crashing out with a compile error
[10:42] <cikas> i type sudo gedit/etc/modules  and the answer was command not found
[10:42] <JoachimLM> hello people :)
[10:42] <andrea> Gracias!
[10:42] <Hopposai> boom: ok go to settings > repositories and enable all four repos
[10:42] <JoachimLM> I have a problem with k8n-4e motherboard and ubuntu
[10:43] <huXfluX> BrendanM: well, there's only one inputdevice > the touchpad
[10:43] <huXfluX> and one for keyboard
[10:43] <Hopposai> boom: universe mail multiverse and restricted
[10:43] <JoachimLM> The NIC won't work, and there's a MIIO resource problem, it says
[10:43] <JoachimLM> any clue ?
[10:43] <cypherdelic> Howto mount encrypted / as early cryptdisk, so i can startup?
[10:43] <CupCakeMaster> i need help burning iso's whats a good program i can use?
[10:43] <JoachimLM> there's k3b CupCakeMaster
[10:43] <dan_> however the mesa source compiled fine when i got it out of the git repo
[10:43] <JoachimLM> it's easy to use
[10:43] <BrendanM> huXfluX? So your USB mouse isn't represented in xorg.conf?
[10:43] <dan_> does that mean that current mesa cvs is broken?
[10:43] <huXfluX> nope
[10:44] <huXfluX> and i don't know the driver
[10:44] <huXfluX> and the /dev/ thing
[10:44] <BrendanM> that's probably the root of your problem
[10:44] <crazy_penguin> Good night
[10:44] <JoachimLM> whatever NIC is used, it will fail
[10:45] <nochance> is there a german channel for ubuntu help too ?
[10:45] <BrendanM> huXfluX, I'm not an expert on xorg.conf, but I can show you my file if you want. I also have a laptop with a touchpad + usb mouse (I also have a pointstick)
[10:45] <JoachimLM> the forcedeth driver fails with errorcode -22, etc.
[10:45] <UrteTe> dyrne: works like a charm
[10:45] <BrendanM> !de | nochance
[10:45] <ubotu> nochance: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:45] <nochance> !de
[10:45] <huXfluX> BrendanM: show me the part with the usbmouse please;)
[10:46] <jexdawg> can i change the font color on my ubuntu panels? for instance, change the font to white and the panel background to black? the bg is easy to change but i don't see an option for the font
[10:46] <cypherdelic> Howto mount encrypted / (root) as "early cryptdisk", so i can startup? root=/dev/mapper/root cryptoroot=/dev/sda4 does not work, help please.
[10:47] <BrendanM> huXfluX, here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5622/
[10:48] <dan_> also, my glxgears also seems broken
[10:48] <dan_> i keep getting glxgears: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: drmOpenOnce
[10:48] <BrendanM> I think the trick is to have one thing configured as "CorePointer" and then the other devices have "SendCoreEvents" turned on, so they pass all their input through that core device
[10:49] <elias_> Could anyone tell me how to install .sh files?
[10:49] <boom> Hopposai: i`m redy now ?
[10:49] <NetCruZa> Any memory editors for linux, that works like TSearch?
[10:49] <BrendanM> elias_, set their permissions to make them executable, then run them with ./ <filename>
[10:50] <elias_> BrendanM, im pretty new, so what do you mean by set their permissions to make them executable?
[10:51] <entel> which matrix printer is good?
[10:51] <squeaks> hey guys, i can use all my internet applications, but in gnome-terminal i have 100% packet loss on pings anywhere farther but not including my router, what can i do?
[10:51] <mojo_> !botsnack
[10:51] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:51] <entel> squeaks,  see u /etc/resolv.conf
[10:52] <elias_> !java
[10:52] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:52] <cypherdelic> Howto mount encrypted / (root) as "early cryptdisk", so i can startup? root=/dev/mapper/root cryptoroot=/dev/sda4 does not work, help please.
[10:52] <squeaks> entel, search resnet.cornell.edu \n nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:52] <squeaks> that nameserver is my router's ip
[10:53] <squeaks> the name server should be my isp's right?
[10:53] <entel> squeaks, do you know the DNS of ur company?
[10:53] <entel> yep..
[10:53] <squeaks> i don't, but should this be automatic with dhcp?
[10:53] <BrendanM> elias_, in Linux, files have specific permissions specifying what different users are allowed to do with them (read, write, run as an executable), you can change the permissions with the chmod command.  Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[10:57] <Seveas> Apparently it's peanutbutter-jelly time again on irc
[10:57] <Seveas> RichiH, thanks!
[10:57] <RichiH> did i miss any bot?
[10:57] <RichiH> Seveas: de nada
[10:58] <Seveas> let's see if you missed any
[10:58] <adaptr> peanutbutter jel-LY ! peanutbutter jel-LY!
[10:58] <BrendanM> So when I bring my machine back from hibernate, there are some error messages that flash by really quickly before the X server comes back up. Does anyone know how I can see those messages?
[10:58] <Seveas> BrendanM, try dmesg
[10:58] <dan_> so uh, anyone know what my prob is?
[10:59] <dyrne> dan_: what was your question?
[10:59] <dan_> hey guys, im trying to compile the mesa dri source from cvs in order to enable dri on the r300 chipset of radeon cards, but it keeps crashing out with a compile error
[10:59] <entel> m
[11:00] <dan_> it seems to be an issue with includes but i'm not really sure what i'm doing wrong
[11:00] <Seveas> !compiling | dan_
[11:00] <ubotu> dan_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:00] <RaptorJesus> so has eny 1 ever get an disk is confused error when trying to load the boot CD??
[11:00] <Seveas> dan_, read that wikipage and look for 'build-depends'
[11:00] <mojo_> what is so funny that i missed?  hey man, can i get in on that rotation?  <//////////# ~ ~  ;)
[11:01] <fiberchunks> you folks know if there's a way to load a kernel module on the liveCD at install time
[11:01] <Seveas> more bots coming in
[11:03] <Seveas> dan_, you need lbc6-dev, just install build-essential
[11:03] <Seveas> cables, the freenode staff is clever :)
[11:04] <Seveas> (and they have detailed logs)
[11:04] <cikas> i followed all the steps from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153935 and nothing(in xp tvtuner is running)
[11:04] <cikas> pls help
[11:04] <dan_> Seveas: actually that's already installed =/
[11:04] <Seveas> tidiman07, jellobean: you'll need to repeat your qustion, noone saw it
[11:05] <jellobean> Seveas: I am installing ubuntu for the first time, and I get the error cannot access tty; job control turned off
[11:06] <Seveas> jellobean, is that when booting from the cd or booting from harddisk?
[11:06] <jellobean> booting from the cd
[11:06] <cypherdelic> Howto mount encrypted / (root) as "early cryptdisk", so i can startup? root=/dev/mapper/root cryptoroot=/dev/sda4 does not work, help please.
[11:06] <toM|vendettA_> hi i was wondering if it was possible to run open gl games in like... a seperate xserver so that i could get a better framerate, i know there was a tutorial on how to do it but i dont know what to search for
[11:06] <Seveas> jellobean, your cd may be broken, it has a self-test option. Please try it
[11:06] <agliv_> Greetings all :) is ubuntu available for 64-bit Intel Core 2 Duo ?
[11:06] <Seveas> RichiH, ?
[11:06] <RichiH> argh, fuck
[11:07] <RichiH> sorry
[11:07] <Seveas> heh
[11:07] <Seveas> I'll find the old topic :)
[11:07] <cables> Spambot control channel?
[11:07] <Music_Shuffle> agliv_, yeh
[11:07] <Hopposai> agliv: i believe so
[11:07] <RichiH> Seveas: i did /topic #ubuntu spambot control channel in the runner channel
[11:07] <Seveas> RichiH, LOL :)
[11:07] <RichiH> Seveas: but irssi is too illigent to let me do that
[11:07] <fiberchunks> Seveas, any idea about my earlier question (is there a way to load a specific kernel module via boot: line on liveCD?)
[11:08] <MetaBookfoziS> !nvidia
[11:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:08] <Seveas> ompaul, thanks
[11:08] <ompaul> Seveas, np
[11:08] <ompaul> RichiH, your still great :)
[11:08] <Seveas> fiberchunks, there may be one but such things are very underdocumented
[11:08] <livingdaylight> unop, ping
[11:08] <RichiH> ompaul: heh, thanks ;)
[11:08] <fiberchunks> whom or where should I ask?
[11:08] <livingdaylight> unop, hey amigo
[11:08] <pbureau> !llibdvdcss
[11:08] <pbureau> !libdvdcss
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about llibdvdcss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:08] <fiberchunks> perhaps #ubuntu-devel?
[11:09] <Seveas> fiberchunks, that channel is not for support
[11:09] <fiberchunks> ahhh
[11:09] <marwan> hello guys
[11:09] <jellobean> seveas: i tested the cd and i get the same error "cannot access tty; job control turned off"
[11:09] <CupCakeMaster> i need help
[11:10] <Seveas> fiberchunks, try 'grep /proc/cmdline /etc/init.d/*
[11:10] <dyrne> marwan: hey
[11:10] <Seveas> jellobean, cd test was succesful?
[11:10] <linxeh> CupCakeMaster: go see a shrink
[11:10] <jellobean> seveas: nope...gives me the same error message
[11:10] <CupCakeMaster> im trying to instal wine but i get this error 'wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\run.exe": Module not found
[11:10] <CupCakeMaster> "
[11:10] <Seveas> jellobean, then the cd is definitely broken
[11:10] <agliv_> Music_Shuffle, but on ubuntu.com it says that the 64-bit-version is for AMD systems... not intel...
[11:10] <cypherdelic> Howto mount encrypted / (root) as "early cryptdisk", so i can startup? root=/dev/mapper/root cryptoroot=/dev/sda4 does not work, help please.
[11:10] <marwan> !dvd
[11:10] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:10] <linxeh> agliv_: the 64bit version works on intel and amd 64 bit
[11:10] <marwan> !nvidia
[11:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:11] <marwan> !i915
[11:11] <linxeh> agliv_: AMD created the 64bit extensions for the opteron. Intel then copied them to stay in the game
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i915 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <marwan> !intel
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <jellobean> seveas: should i burn a new cd using the same .iso image?
[11:11] <Seveas> jellobean, check the md5sum of the iso
[11:11] <Seveas> !md5 | jellobean
[11:11] <bimberi> !msgthebot > marwan
[11:11] <ubotu> jellobean: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[11:11] <marwan> hey guys, Can someone point me to a good information site on how to setup my graphics driver for i915
[11:12] <Seveas> marwan, sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[11:12] <jellobean> !md5
[11:12] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[11:12] <marwan> Seveas thanks
[11:13] <Seveas> marwan, also make sure to use i810 as driver in xorg.conf
[11:13] <cables> marwan, hold on
[11:13] <agliv_> linxeh, so the 64-bit PC version is also for Intel Core 2 Duo processors?  Why doesn't it say that on Ubuntu.com?
[11:13] <cables> marwan, Seveas, what about xserver-xorg-video-intel ?
[11:14] <Seveas> cables, that should be installed by default
[11:14] <Seveas> agliv_, not al core 2 duo machines are 64bit
[11:14] <marwan> cables: what do you mean?
[11:14] <cables> Seveas, not on my system... does it automatically install it if you have an intel graphics chip?
[11:14] <zackglennie> quick question: what does it mean to compile an application under a directory?  I have a source .tar.gz which I presume I can install, I just don't know how to install it "under /usr/local/sbin"
[11:14] <Seveas> cables, you probably have upgraded from breezy or an early dapper
[11:15] <cables> Seveas, installed from scratch. marwan should at least make sure it's installed before he changes the driver.
[11:15] <dyrne> zackglennie: ./configure --prefix=/home/username/local/     or whatever then just make or make install
[11:15] <zackglennie> thx
[11:15] <Seveas> cables, definitely but it's really installed by default on an edgy ubuntu-desktop machine
[11:16] <Seveas> maybe ubiquity does funky hardware detection, but I doubt that :)
[11:16] <cables> marwan, run this command please: "aptitude show xserver-xorg-video-intel | grep State"
[11:16] <linxeh> agliv_: dunno; generally the EM64_T extensions are refered to as amd64 I guess
[11:16] <khermans__> does the Ubiquity installer support software RAID?
[11:16] <cables> marwan, that will make sure you have the right driver installed
[11:17] <jman_> does anybody know any good tutorials or guides for setting up Samba as a PDC?
[11:17] <bcardarella> What is the username that Apache uses for permissions?
[11:17] <Seveas> jman_, is an example config good enough?
[11:17] <Seveas> bcardarella, www-data
[11:17] <jman_> yes Seveas
[11:18] <Seveas> jman_, ok, hang on
[11:18] <khermans__> jman_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSambaPDC
[11:18] <Seveas> khermans__, ah, nice! Didn't know that existed :)
[11:18] <cwatt> ? some one help me  in one issues in windows
[11:19] <cables> cwatt, there's a #windows channel
[11:19] <Seveas> !windows | cwatt
[11:19] <ubotu> cwatt: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[11:19] <cwatt> In my company has a w23 with AD but all the machine has a Ubuntu
[11:19] <cwatt> how autentifi with active directory
[11:19] <cables> cwatt, what is a w23 with AD, and what's the ubuntu-relaed problem?
[11:19] <jman_> what is a w23?
[11:20] <cwatt> w2k3
[11:20] <Seveas> cables, windows 2003 with active directory I assume :)
[11:20] <cwatt> sorry
[11:20] <cwatt> yes
[11:20] <cwatt> so sorry
[11:20] <Seveas> cwatt, do you want a dmoain logon or just browsing the shares?
[11:21] <cwatt> yes my boss need that but all the team :$
[11:21] <marwan> cables: Thank you vey much I will try that
[11:21] <khermans__> if the GUI installer on the LiveCD does not support RAID config + install, can i use the text mode installer from the GUI in a shell?  what is the text mode installer binary to launch?
[11:21] <Seveas> cwatt, you may want to look into winbind and some weird pam stuff
[11:21] <cables> marwan, that won't fix anything, just check if the driver's installed. If it's not, you'll have to install it.
[11:21] <cables> Damn, marwan left
[11:21] <agliv_> Seveas, you wouldn't happen to know if the E6400 is 64-bit or not, having trouble finding good results with google...
[11:21] <compengi> can i monitor on my box the number of processes that are connected to the internet?
[11:22] <cwatt> I will try to install that with LDAP
[11:22] <Seveas> cwatt, there is pam_ldap, not sure if that does AD to
[11:22] <khermans__> compengi, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:22] <jellobean> agliv_ im trying to find out the same thing
[11:23] <khermans__> compengi, oh i thought you asked a really dumb question, processors
[11:23] <barbarella> Seveas:no, that is not the way
[11:23] <cwatt> seveas what system are better
[11:23] <khermans__> compengi, netstat -an
[11:23] <agliv_> jellobean, Seveas according to http://www.intel.com/products/services/emea/deu/sitelets/viiv_features.htm the E6400 is 64-Bit
[11:23] <cwatt> to authentication
[11:23] <cwatt> ubuntu with AD
[11:24] <agliv_> Seveas, according to http://www.intel.com/products/services/emea/deu/sitelets/viiv_features.htm the E6400 is 64-bit...
[11:24] <chorse> perhaps  "netstat -an | grep -v unix" to get rid of the unix sockets
[11:24] <linxeh> cwatt: PAM i guess
[11:24] <Seveas> cwatt, I don't really know, never used Ubuntu with AD, only windows with samba on ubuntu :)
[11:24] <linxeh> PAM_LDAP should work with AD
[11:24] <linxeh> I've used LDAP to authenticate against an AD before
[11:24] <bfdhud> How can I completely remove all traces of Java, I didn't accept the EULA and now it wont work and add/remove cant get rid of it
[11:24] <Seveas> linxeh, good to know :)
[11:24] <cwatt> PAM
[11:24] <jellobean> agliv_ according to http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2768780 it is 64-bit
[11:24] <MurderousHobo> If I have a ubuntu server here, not connected to eth0, but eth0 has my router in
[11:24] <MurderousHobo> How do I conenct it
[11:24] <cwatt> ok tks
[11:24] <linxeh> hang on, I've got an example search string for AD here
[11:25] <hairulfr> Hello
[11:25] <jellobean> agliv_ i ran the regular ubuntu live cd on my e6400 and it hadn
[11:25] <jellobean> agliv_ i ran the regular ubuntu live cd on my e6400 and it hasn't worked yet..im thinking i might need the 64=bit
[11:25] <shatrat> bfdhud, you read the eula? I think youre the first person in the history of software to do that.
[11:25] <bfdhud> no
[11:25] <pic_> heya
[11:25] <bfdhud> shatrat, I was quick clicking and didnt check the box
[11:25] <Music_Shuffle> jellobean, you can run regular LiveCD's on dual-cores, or 64 bits, or any mix therein.
[11:26] <cafuego_> agliv_: Just becase a cpu is an x86_64 doesn't mean it would be best to run a 64bit Linux on it. Certainly not if you're going to use it for the desktop.
[11:26] <MurderousHobo> !network
[11:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:26] <bfdhud> shatrat any idea's how to get it off my computer so i can reinstall
[11:26] <MurderousHobo> !ethernet
[11:26] <shatrat> bfdhud, How did you try to install it?  Im not really familiar with it since I havent had any problems but maybe I can help
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ethernet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <technomancy> if i ever try to get a windows refund it's helpful to be able to say you read it and disagreed with it
[11:26] <cables> bfdhud, do you know the name of the java package you installed?
[11:26] <jellobean> music_shuffle...thanks for the info
[11:26] <Music_Shuffle> :)
[11:26] <cables> bfdhud, was it Sun Java 5 or 6?
[11:26] <MurderousHobo> Does anyone know how to connect to an ethernet device
[11:26] <MurderousHobo> i.e. router
[11:26] <bfdhud> Cables it was java 5
[11:26] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, usually you just plug in and it works.
[11:26] <bfdhud> cables from the add/remove menu
[11:26] <cables> bfdhud, hold on a sec
[11:27] <cables> bfdhud, open a terminal
[11:27] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, I need a console command, im on server
[11:27] <linxeh> cwatt, Seveas: this is what I use with JBoss to use AD as an LDAP auth source- http://rafb.net/p/XzEhaa14.html
[11:27] <bfdhud> cables ok
[11:27] <joe-cot> :(
[11:27] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, oh I see.  Well are you plugged in? Does it at least physically look like it should work? Theres probably a green light that comes on at both ends to show connected.
[11:27] <linxeh> cwatt: the important bits are the uidAttributeID I guess
[11:27] <MurderousHobo> Yes
[11:27] <MurderousHobo> It is plugged in
[11:27] <MurderousHobo> But the router doesnt show it in devices
[11:27] <cables> bfdhud, run this command: sudo aptitude remove sun-java5-plugin
[11:28] <cables> bfdhud, if it asks you anything, ask me before answering.
[11:28] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, ok, what does "ifconfig" say for eth0, eth1, etc.  Do they have IP addresses? not ipv6 btw
[11:28] <cables> bfdhud, you can paste into the terminal with ctrl-shift-v
[11:28] <MurderousHobo> shatrat I dunno
[11:28] <Seveas> linxeh, interesting!
[11:28] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, Im kinda doing this without a monitor
[11:28] <MurderousHobo> Heh
[11:28] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, yeah, you have a command line? type ifconfig
[11:29] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, Let me go get a monitor
[11:29] <bfdhud> cables it seemed to work fine
[11:29] <jellobean> If my hard drive is new and has never been partitioned will that cause problems in boot up on a live cd of ubuntu?
[11:29] <agliv_> cafuego, please explain...
[11:29] <Music_Shuffle> jellobean, no.
[11:29] <joe-cot> i updated to feisty, because i wanted to use kvm .... and then found out it works based on hardware virtualization, and my chip doesn't support it >_<
[11:29] <khermans__> Does anyone know the command to run the text mode installer?
[11:29] <cables> bfdhud, didn't ask you anything?
[11:29] <shatrat> jellobean, you could boot the liveCD even with no HD at all
[11:30] <joe-cot> does anyone know about kqemu? does that also only work on dual-cores?
[11:30] <bfdhud> no
[11:30] <fiberchunks> shatrat, assuming that the liveCD will recognize your cdrom drive :)  which is my problem
[11:30] <khermans__> joe-cot, check out virtualbox
[11:30] <cables> bfdhud, if you're back at the terminal (you see a $), you can run "sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin" to install it. Make sure you do it right this time :)
[11:30] <joe-cot> khermans__ : i'm on 64 bit
[11:30] <bfdhud> cables it's fixed
[11:30] <fiberchunks> sorry, assuming the liveCD _kernel_ has the proper module loaded for the cdrom drive
[11:30] <bfdhud> cables thanks, I'll actually check the box this time :)
[11:30] <cables> bfdhud, didn't you want to install java?
[11:31] <cables> bfdhud, ok... don't run the second command i sent
[11:31] <shatrat> fiberchunks, well, the liveCD is often more trouble than it's worth imo.
[11:31] <cables> bfdhud, you can do it again from add/remove
[11:31] <khermans__> joe-cot, do you need 64-bit gusts?
[11:31] <bfdhud> cables i'll install from the add /remove window, I didnt check the accept EULA button on accident last time
[11:31] <joe-cot> khermans__ no, i just want windows 2000
[11:31] <fiberchunks> shatrat, perhaps you might know -- is there a way to tell the installer kernel -- hey, use _this_ kernel module for the IDE controller?
[11:31] <khermans__> joe-cot, then it will work, so will vmware server
[11:32] <joe-cot> khermans__ i've tried both. vmware server dies. I have a thread about it on their site, and they have no idea what the problem is
[11:32] <Lenaud01-Coding> I have Ubuntu laptop version installed trying to get Broadcom Wireless going I have ndiswrapper going and drivers loaded and it says Hardware present Yes yet I cant get wireless ? I noticed the radio is off and I cant get it turned on this worked another distro any ideas?
[11:32] <khermans__> joe-cot, last hope is Xen with VT CPU extensions
[11:33] <joe-cot> khermans_ but i don't have VT cpu extensions. that's the problem
[11:33] <shatrat> fiberchunks, Probably but I dont know it.  You might try the options "irqpoll" and "pci=noacpi" though if you havent yet, those sometimes clear up problems
[11:34] <Err_> i'm trying to use vmware player to run windows through ubuntu, but when i click on the .vbx file it tells me that it is unable to access /dev/vmmon, that the file does not exist, and that my monitor is not supported
[11:34] <khermans__> joe-cot, well virtualbox should work then
[11:34] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, I have a monitor now
[11:34] <barbarella> Lenaud01-Coding:has your laptop got a name, like hp....etc.
[11:34] <fiberchunks> shatrat, indeed, I've gone through the regular motions -- I've pretty much determined that it's the controller driver (due to some forum posts), and I just really, really don't want to get all into the usb stick install, or other foolishness - I will if I have to though
[11:34] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, sweet, "ifconfig" will list your adapters
[11:35] <MurderousHobo> lo
[11:35] <Lenaud01-Coding> @ barbarella its a Gateway 7422GX
[11:35] <agliv_> jellobean, just go to http://support.intel.com/products/viiv/requirements.htm <- if Intel doesn't know, who would?
[11:35] <MurderousHobo> it says lo
[11:35] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, thats the only one?
[11:35] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, try scrolling up
[11:35] <Lenaud01-Coding> I think the issue might be that I am running 32 bit ubuntu and the broadcom drivers are 64bit
[11:35] <MurderousHobo> No its the only one
[11:35] <MurderousHobo> but ifconfig eth0 does stuff though
[11:35] <Lenaud01-Coding> but I cant find 32 anywhere
[11:35] <knyt> Anyone got a fix for the recent feisty update that makes the gui hang on the transition to gnome?
[11:39] <MurderousHobo> I also have ra0 wireless
[11:39] <mecfs4_> Does anyone know why k3b won't eject a DVD disk when you want to make a copy?
[11:39] <Lenaud01-Coding> iwconfig I can see Broadcom 4306
[11:39] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, ok in your eth0 is there an "inet addr:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" on the second line?
[11:39] <Lenaud01-Coding> almost seems like radio is off
[11:39] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, No
[11:39] <Lenaud01-Coding> but normally I turn that on with FN+Wireless and thats worked in gentoo but now
[11:39] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, does the machine have multiple interfaces? if so you might have to check eth1, eth2, etcetera
[11:39] <ghostdog> !pastebin
[11:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:39] <MurderousHobo> It has ra0 and eth0
[11:39] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, ok.  well if eth0 doesnt have an IP then you are in fact not connected.  Is your router set up to use DHCP?
[11:39] <barbarella> Lenaud01-Coding:strange, should work out of the box.
[11:39] <agliv_> cafuego, why would I not want to install 64-Bit Ubuntu?
[11:39] <jellobean> checked my md5sum on my iso and it the sums match up correctly, what can cause my cd to be malfunctioning?
[11:39] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, Ys
[11:39] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, well, something is gone wrong there.  Perhaps if you set a static IP you will be ok, thats assuming that the problem is just the DHCP
[11:39] <grodius> hey I need help installing a .jar file on my computer
[11:39] <MurderousHobo> It wouldnt connect in the setup
[11:39] <rexsum> how is snort configured by default on ubuntu?
[11:39] <kitche> MurderousHobo: java -jar <file>.jar or do you want to put it someplace?
[11:39] <erUSUL> grodius: java -jar file.jar
[11:39] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, I dont know or have a clue about static ips
[11:39] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, well, you can change the config for your interface by editing the text file /etc/network/interfaces
[11:39] <kitche> MurderousHobo: sorry about that that was for grodius :)
[11:40] <negen> what is the best webcam program for ubuntu?
[11:40] <frogzoo> rexsum: -> snort.conf
[11:40] <MurderousHobo> kitche, Okay
[11:40] <bruenig> !webam | negen
[11:40] <cables> !webcam | negen
[11:40] <bruenig> !webcam | negen
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <ubotu> negen: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:40] <thor> hi. i have problem setting the password for remote desktop connection. Does anyone know what is the configuration file for this service ?
[11:40] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, Only lo is there, should eth0 be?
[11:40] <rexsum> frogzoo, i just want it to log to /var/log/snort
[11:40] <rexsum> but doesnt even take the -l <directory> override
[11:40] <rexsum> (keeps logging to tty)
[11:41] <elyon225> What can I do to increase my internet speed?  For some reason, all websites are now loading VERY slowly...
[11:41] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, I dont think kitche meant to say that to you, thats for installing java programs.  I think eth0 should be there...maybe there is a driver problem.  Do you know what chipset the ethernet adapter uses?
[11:41] <frogzoo> rexsum: it logs through syslog
[11:42] <knyt> The virtual consoles also lack gettys after the update, so the only way to command is through the 'failsafe terminal'
[11:42] <frogzoo> !ipv6 | elyon225
[11:42] <ubotu> elyon225: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[11:42] <agnostic> any actual laptop works with ubuntu?
[11:42] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, I have used ubuntu desktop before and it worked out of the box
[11:42] <frogzoo> agnostic: what kind of a question is that?
[11:42] <frogzoo> !hardware | agnostic
[11:42] <ubotu> agnostic: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:42] <joe-cot> khermans_ was there something you saw that led you to believe virtualbox worked on 64? everything i'm seeing says it doesn't
[11:42] <negen> the drivers for the webcam already come  installed with ubuntu which is nice the cam works right after install too bad flash dosnt have color correction
[11:42] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, in that case I dont really understand it.  try "lspci | grep controller" and look for your ethernet controller
[11:43] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, Ethernet controller: nVidia Corp. nForce Ethernet Controller (rev c2)
[11:43] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, same thing I have, mine worked as well, although ive never tried the server install.
[11:43] <lwizardl> hi
[11:43] <negen> I think that GyachI must be the better progam to use
[11:43] <rexsum> nvm
[11:43] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, Does the desktop cd have ubuntu-desktop on
[11:44] <MurderousHobo> well obviously it does
[11:44] <lwizardl> anyone setup ubuntu as a storage server ?
[11:44] <MurderousHobo> or should
[11:44] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, yeah.
[11:44] <rexsum> i just needed coffee, tail -f /var/log/snort/alert &... , whoopsie :D
[11:44] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, How would I install desktop if I have it here
[11:45] <cables> MurderousHobo, you mean you want to install Ubuntu on your computer?
[11:45] <adaptr> lwizardl: easy, use 6.06 lTS, it has very good LVM support to span your storage across mutltiple drives
[11:45] <sleepy723> anyone using irssi?..
[11:45] <lwizardl> adaptr, what about 6.10?
[11:45] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, well, you could just go through the installer.  There are ways to install packages through apt from a CD but if you just now installed the server edition it would probably be just as fast and easier to just go through the installer.
[11:45] <adaptr> lwizardl: 6.10 is not LTS
[11:45] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, The desktop installer didnt work
[11:46] <cables> sleepy723, there's an #irssi channel if you want help with it
[11:46] <adaptr> lwizardl: for a storage box, you install it once then don't bother anymore... you want LTS
[11:46] <|rt|> lwizardl: I haven't had any problems with LVM on 6.10
[11:46] <barbarella> shatrat:what module is loaded, so you can help MurderousHobo
[11:46] <MurderousHobo> I have the desktop install mounted
[11:46] <cables> MurderousHobo, is there a problem with it?
[11:46] <Onore_e_Gloria> hi
[11:46] <stylus> Hey
[11:46] <sleepy723> cables, no one is responding in there
[11:47] <erUSUL> sleepy723: me
[11:47] <sleepy723> I tried that channe
[11:47] <MurderousHobo> cables, I have a ubuntu server install here, and a ubuntu desktop. I want to install the desktop
[11:47] <sleepy723> erUSUL, should I use screen or fifo for irssi
[11:47] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, could you run lsmod |  grep forcedeth? Id still like to figure out how to get your ethernet working
[11:47] <MurderousHobo> Specifically the ubuntu-desktop package
[11:47] <cypherdelic> How to configure cryptroot??
[11:47] <MurderousHobo> Sure
[11:48] <Chicory> ... Question.
[11:48] <MurderousHobo> forcedeth 32780 0
[11:48] <Chicory> Why is, uh, ...
[11:48] <erUSUL> sleepy723: i use it with screen donno what fifo is. anyway irssi only needs a terminal
[11:48] <Chicory> Why is Ubuntu claiming that home/yamathan is NOT my home directory?  :P
[11:48] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, well...youve got the driver running.  Now im more confused.
[11:48] <Chicory> My username IS yamathan.
[11:48] <Chicory> So ...
[11:49] <Chicory> Why does Ubuntu think that my home directory doesn't belong to me?
[11:49] <cypherdelic> ALERT! /dev/mapper/root does not exist. Dropping the shell!
[11:49] <cables> Chicory, did you just create that user?
[11:49] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, When I originally installed this, the ethernet wasnt connected
[11:49] <frogzoo> !anyone | Chicory
[11:49] <ubotu> Chicory: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:49] <Chicory> Nope.
[11:49] <Chicory> I created it at installation.
[11:49] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, hmm, maybe if you add an entry for it to your /etc/network/interfaces it will work.
[11:49] <thor> where ubuntu stores vnc password? Or another worlds where ubuntu stores password that you enter to connect via remote desktop?
[11:49] <SeanTater> I want to be able to ude mailx to send an e-mail to an e-mail server I have set up. What options in exim4 do I need to change for it to mail to remote domains?
[11:49] <frogzoo> Chicory: finger yamathan
[11:49] <fiberchunks> http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/solutions/en/winvista?c=us&l=en&s=gen#faq11  look down the page under the "Windows Vista Capable" part of the chart
[11:50] <Chicory> Hmm?
[11:50] <Chicory> Frog, what of it?
[11:50] <Chicory> The input just describes how long I've been on.
[11:50] <coreymon77> hi everyon
[11:50] <coreymon77> e
[11:50] <MurderousHobo> Ifconfig just decided to start listing eth0
[11:50] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, add 2 lines to your /etc/network/interfaces that look like "auto eth0" and below that "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[11:50] <Chicory> Which is actually one minute as of "finger".
[11:50] <Nergar> !wmv
[11:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:50] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, we're dealing with a very devious computer, its thinking ahead of me.
[11:51] <MurderousHobo> those lines arnt there yet
[11:51] <frogzoo> Chicory: should show your homedir, or grep yamathan /etc/passwd
[11:51] <MurderousHobo> so should i add them?
[11:51] <coreymon77> i was wondering about the -11 kernel update
[11:51] <coreymon77> have the nvidia and wifi bugs been fixed
[11:51] <coreymon77> ?
[11:51] <Chicory> frogzoo:  Nope.  :P
[11:51] <MurderousHobo> Added
[11:51] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, yes, thts how mine is set up.
[11:51] <cables> coreymon77, probably not.
[11:52] <MurderousHobo> Still not connected
[11:52] <coreymon77> should i just not bother and just wait until the next kernel update to upgrade my system
[11:52] <coreymon77> ?
[11:52] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, now use the command "ifup" to load them
[11:52] <grodius> Can someone help me? IM trying to install an IDE for Java and I cant find where my java tools.jar file is located
[11:52] <cables> coreymon77, you might want to wait.
[11:52] <frogzoo> Chicory: so where did they go?
[11:52] <MurderousHobo> Connected.
[11:52] <Chicory> ...
[11:52] <frogzoo> coreymon77: if you're up & running atm, that might be best
[11:53] <Chicory> Frog, I sudo'ed it.
[11:53] <Chicory> It SAYS my directyory is /home/yamathan!
[11:53] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, Thanks for staying with me :)
[11:53] <erUSUL> grayscale: maybe you instaled the jre but you need the sdk ??
[11:53] <Chicory> *directory, rather
[11:53] <frogzoo> Chicory: define "I sudoed it"
[11:53] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, everythings working? Great
[11:53] <Chicory> sudo finger yamathan.
[11:53] <erUSUL> grodius: maybe you instaled the jre but you need the sdk ??
[11:53] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, Yeah, now I can install vnc and get rid of this monitor
[11:53] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, you could installed ubuntu-destktop with apt-get now if you still want to.
[11:53] <Chicory> for that matter ...
[11:53] <erUSUL> grayscale: sorry was a bad tab completion ;P
[11:53] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, ssh imo ;)
[11:53] <Chicory> "finger yamathan" did the same trick.
[11:53] <Chicory> Damn.
[11:53] <Chicory> That was :F
[11:54] <frogzoo> Chicory: grep yamathan /etc/passwd
[11:54] <sroske> Hi, just installed edubuntu 6.10 on a pII 200mhz, "unable to locate RDSP" on boot, keeps rebooting ????
[11:54] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, Thats what im doing
[11:54] <MurderousHobo> This is gunna be a server
[11:54] <MurderousHobo> But I like fancy stuff
[11:54] <MurderousHobo> I guess
[11:54] <Chicory> Frog:  yamathan:x:1000:1000:Yamathan Contril,,,:/home/yamathan:/bin/bash
[11:54] <MurderousHobo> !vnc
[11:54] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[11:54] <MurderousHobo> :)
[11:54] <grodius> erUSUL, I have the SDK downloaded. its a .bin file, but i guess i need to install it
[11:54] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, even when im sitting down at a computer, I still prefer commandline most of the time, so im def. not a VNC oriented person.  ymmv :D
[11:54] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, I use a Mac
[11:55] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, What do you expect
[11:55] <erUSUL> ubotu tell grodius about java | grodius see priv msg from ubotu
[11:55] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, shh, youll be lynched round these parts
[11:55] <MurderousHobo> Heh
[11:55] <MurderousHobo> I used to use ubuntu
[11:55] <MurderousHobo> At least im using something which is atleast unix based
[11:55] <MurderousHobo> Unlike SOME things
[11:55] <grodius> erUSUL, is java6 not out for linux?
[11:55] <erUSUL> grodius: java is in the repos see priv msg of ubotu
[11:55] <Seveas> grodius, it is, in feisty
[11:55] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, yeah if I could afford it I would have a macbook.  instead I have a spiral notebook.
[11:55] <MurderousHobo> Heh
[11:55] <erUSUL> grodius: yes it is i installed the jre from repos
[11:55] <Chicory> frogzoo: This is very, VERY odd.
[11:55] <MurderousHobo> I have had two macbooks
[11:56] <MurderousHobo> They both broke within 3 days
[11:56] <MurderousHobo> I got an iMac now
[11:56] <frogzoo> Chicory: ls -ld /home/yamathan
[11:56] <MurderousHobo> Hardware broke
[11:56] <Seveas> !offtopic | MurderousHobo
[11:56] <ubotu> MurderousHobo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:56] <sroske> excuse me, but is there any information on "unable to locate RDSP" google and unbuntu forums were unhelpful.
[11:56] <grodius> erUSUL, ok well i already had java5
[11:56] <MurderousHobo> Sorry
[11:56] <erUSUL> grodius: is in multiverse
[11:56] <frogzoo> Chicory: assuming you know what you're doing & haven't been playing, yes, very odd
[11:56] <Chicory> Frog, to be honest I haven't had enough time to play.
[11:56] <grodius> erUSUL, i need to point my IDE to where its installed, how do i find it
[11:57] <Chicory> Stupid storm sort of screwed up my plans to.
[11:57] <kameron> can someone help me mount an ntfs drive?
[11:57] <Seveas> !ntfs | kameron
[11:57] <ubotu> kameron: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:57] <frogzoo> Chicory: ls -ld /home/yamathan
[11:57] <erUSUL> grodius: dpkg -L sun-java5-jdk (or 6)
[11:57] <Chicory> ...
[11:57] <michaelpo> i've installed a few packages... now i can play dvd... but not vcd... did i miss out any packages?
[11:57] <Chicory> drwxrwxrwx 48 yamathan yamathan 4096 2007-02-13 16:56 /home/yamathan
[11:57] <sleepy723> which is better for scripts, xchat or irssi?
[11:57] <Chicory> It all SEEMS to be in order.
[11:57] <barbarella> sroske:you can start with what mainbord you have.
[11:58] <rockPod_MAN> hey is there a way to have ubuntu boot from the cd drive first becaus eI went into bios and changed the disc order but that did nothing. I can't access anything after the grub menu and a terminal, so could someone tell me what to do to get the cd(desktop live disc) to boot so I can reinstall?
[11:58] <Seveas> irssi if you like perl, xchat if you like python
[11:58] <Chicory> ...
[11:58] <Chicory> Waaaait, waaaait ...
[11:58] <kameron> i have 1 ntfs drive that mounts fine, another one is having problems.
[11:58] <frogzoo> Chicory: world writable homedir - nice
[11:58] <kameron> i cant read anything from the disk.
[11:58] <kameron> but in windows i can.
[11:58] <MystaMax> !restricted > Chicory
[11:58] <sroske> barbarella: I would have to crack open the case for that. It's an old machine. Does it come to that?
[11:58] <Chicory> frogzoo: Hmm?
[11:59] <kameron> Seveas, ?
[11:59] <frogzoo> Chicory: dude, did you make your homedir world writable?
[11:59] <Seveas> kameron, look at what ubotu said
[11:59] <fiberchunks> it sure is
[11:59] <kameron> Seveas, i saw that. but it's not working.
[11:59] <frogzoo> Chicory: what services do you run on the box & does the box have an internet IP?
[12:00] <barbarella> shatrat:it's a start
[12:00] <Chicory> ...
[12:00] <Chicory> Not that I KNOW of, no.
[12:00] <grodius> Hey im trying to install a .bin file, can someone help me
[12:00] <hairulfr> Happy valentines day all.... http://www.fat-pie.com/love.htm
[12:00] <mathrick> hey, is there an equivalent of dpkg --get-selection, but for aptitude?
[12:00] <fiberchunks> others == write with those permissions chicory
[12:00] <Chicory> I've given read access to the group and I SHOULD take it down to "none" for others, but I don't screw with the defaults ...
[12:00] <harisund> Does anybody know how I can resize my NTFS partition (of 60 GB) to create a 30 GB seperate partition to install Ubuntu in? I have only 8 GB of data in the 60 GB NTFS partitoin.
[12:00] <frogzoo> Chicory: what services do you run on the box & does the box have an internet IP?
[12:01] <mathrick> I want to carry over the installed packages, but I don't want aptitude to think everything was installed manually


[08:10] <dholbach> good morning
[15:57] <elopio> barry: do you have some time to help me preparing a package to be installed for py2 and py3?
[16:00] <barry> elopio: i'm pretty slammed today but i can try to help briefly
[16:01] <elopio> barry: I can wait for next week. But if you have some time, this is the MP: https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/uci-tests/py3-packaging/+merge/243758
[16:01] <barry> elopio: next week will be *much* better ;)
[16:01] <elopio> so far I've only ported things to py3, so I'm not sure if I'm following the correct style here.
[16:02] <elopio> and I have a big problem with making the entry_point available in both.
[16:02] <elopio> barry: I'll ping you on monday.
[16:02] <barry> elopio: +1


[14:02] <wgrant> noodles775: Thanks.
[14:02] <noodles775> Always a pleasure wgrant :)
[16:41] <abentley> rockstar, thanks!
[16:41] <rockstar> abentley, no problem sir.
[17:01] <mars> rockstar, ping, have room for a quick review?  a dozen new lines of code, some refactoring of the windmill test layer setup: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mars/launchpad/turn-on-windmill-debug-logging/+merge/24839
[17:01] <rockstar> mars, please add yourself to the queue.
[17:02] <mars> !take_ticket
[17:02] <mars> ;)
[17:03] <rockstar> mars, every time I'm on call reviewer, I always think that we need a bot to handle the queue...  I just never actually get around to making one.
[17:03] <mars> likewise
[17:21] <mars> rockstar, I'm off to lunch, back in an hour and a bit.
[17:36] <rockstar> abentley, the UI looks good for the SPRB.  Is there a way I can walk through actually building a source package recipe, or do I just have to mess with the database?
[17:36] <abentley> rockstar, you just have to mess with the db.
[17:37] <rockstar> abentley, okay.
[17:37] <rockstar> abentley, So I guess that means that I won't have a build log I can access from +files then?
[17:38] <abentley> rockstar, I just create an LFA manually.
[18:07] <rockstar> abentley, your indentation on lines 428-431 of the diff is wonky.
[18:53] <rockstar> mars, does reset_logging undo all of this logger buggery you're doing here?
[18:59] <mars> rockstar, it does
[19:00] <mars> rockstar, BaseLayer calls it as well, but I did this because it is more visible and explicit
[19:00] <rockstar> mars, what does safe_hasattr do?
[19:01] <mars> rockstar, doesn't eat exceptions.  Builtin hasattr does (fun fun!)
[19:02] <rockstar> mars, why not just use getattr?
[19:02] <mars> rockstar, what line?
[19:02] <mars> 96
[19:03] <rockstar> mars, yes.
[19:04] <mars> rockstar, it might be because hasattr will tell you that an attribute exists.  getattr may return None, but you can't tell if that is the attribute's value, or the default argument.
[19:04] <mars> or the default argument to getattr()
[19:06] <rockstar> mars, okay.  As long as you feel you're using the right call here, I'm happy with that.
[19:06] <bac> rockstar: can i add one to your queue?
[19:06] <rockstar> bac, absolutely.
[19:06] <bac> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bac/launchpad/bug-574493/+merge/24853
[19:08] <mars> rockstar, not my code, so it should work :)
[19:09] <mars> rockstar, that is one of the code blocks I extracted into its own method
[19:09] <mars> personal choice: I dislike 300 and 400 line method definitions, even if they are linear.
[19:10] <mars> if there are comments that say "# now we do this" followed by "# then we do that", then it is pretty good sign that you can extract a method
[19:11] <mars> but, like I said, that's personal preference
[19:12] <rockstar> mars, I think you've made the code clearer by breaking it up.
[19:12] <mars> cool, thanks :)
[19:16] <rockstar> mars, I'd like to do your review and then move on to bac's, but launchpad is apparently down right now.
[19:17] <mars> :(
[19:29] <mars> rockstar, page is back up.  Do I have r=rockstar?
[19:29] <rockstar> mars, indeed you did as of a few minutes ago.
[19:30] <mars> rockstar, cool, thank you
[19:31] <rockstar> bac, is this a private branch?
[19:31] <bac> rockstar: it is
[19:32] <abentley> rockstar, could you please review https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~abentley/launchpad/no-default-powerpc/+merge/24855 ?
[19:32] <rockstar> abentley, sure.
[19:47] <rockstar> abentley, I'm going to eat lunch, then I'll get to your branch immediately following.
[19:48] <abentley> rockstar, sure, no rush.  Thanks for your other review.
[20:01] <mars> rockstar, dumb question: ec2 land does run the test suite before submitting to PQM, right?
[20:03] <mars> bac, ^ ?
[20:03] <bac> yes
[20:03] <mars> bac, ok, thanks.  Updating the docs: if you can believe it, no one actually bothered to mention that fact, anywhere.
[20:04] <bac> really?  since it evolved out of 'ec2 test' i guess it was just assumed
[20:05] <mars> 'ec2 help land' doesn't mention it.  I just updated LandingChanges so it does say that.
[20:57] <abentley> mars, however, if you want to land without testing, "bzr lp-land" from the bzr-pqm plugin will do that for you.
[20:58] <mars> abentley, yep, thanks.  I've used that before, and it is very convenient.
[20:59] <abentley> mars, cool.  It's basically the same code.
[21:14] <rockstar> abentley, had I known it was that small, I would have done that before lunch!  :)
[21:14] <abentley> rockstar, :-)
[21:15] <abentley> I prefer my rockstars happy and well-fed.
[21:16] <abentley> rockstar, chat soon?
[21:16] <rockstar> abentley, well-fed == sleepy  :)
[21:16] <rockstar> abentley, sure, lemme send this email or thumper will lynch me.
[21:16] <abentley> rockstar, okie.
[22:11] <jtv> barry: see the update for the lazr.batchnavigator review?  https://code.launchpad.net/~jtv/lazr.batchnavigator/bug-574159/+merge/24577


[00:00] <hads> hah, I am.
[02:55] <ibeardslee> cor looking quite damp down dunners way
[02:56] <ajmitch_> ibeardslee: just a little
[02:56] <mwhudson> ajmitch_: dunners is still there at least then?
[02:56] <ajmitch_> yeah, sadly
[02:57] <ajmitch_> there might be a few damp backyards around south dunedin, but most of the city is on hills anyway
[03:01] <hads> The people down the bottom of the hills may be a bit damp.
[04:12] <thumper> it is damp in our back yard
[04:12] <thumper> squelchy when walking to get wood
[19:30] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:30] <chilts> morning
[20:43] <ajmitch_> morning
[21:13] <thumper> morning
[21:14] <mwhudson> morning
[21:15] <mwhudson> thumper: i guess your house isn't under water :)
[21:15] <thumper> mwhudson: nah, top of the hill remember?
[21:15] <mwhudson> quite
[21:15] <thumper> we thought about this in advance
[21:15] <thumper> :)
[21:39] <G> morning


[09:30] <rmg51> Morning
[12:12] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
[12:43] <lazyPower> o/