[07:50] <kayde> Froogzoo, what is the code in root terminal to put in to get to that file??
[07:50] <MrFarts> david__, what's the point of spending money on something that doesn't work ?
[07:50] <Orborde> frogzoo: sudo pppoeconf ?
[07:50] <Arie_> Goldfish: I have the driver downloaded. I just can't seem to get ndiswrapper to install it right
[07:50] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: now add to your panel a new applet - keyboard chooser - & you can switch between - works for me for french
[07:50] <david__> well sorry i probley am.it will work just need help setting up
[07:50] <frogzoo> Orborde: yup - if you're on adsl, that's the ticket
[07:51] <Arie_> Wehre do you get keyboard chooser?
[07:51] <Orborde> frogzoo: Excellent. Thanks.
[07:51] <kayde> Froogzoo, what is the code in root terminal to put in to get to that file??
[07:51] <MrFarts> david__, do you even know what type of modem it is ?
[07:51] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: you need to go into layouts to add the danish kb
[07:52] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: system -> prefs -> kb -> layout
[07:52] <Goldfish> Arie_: I read a site that says WPC 11 is a prism2 card. That is chip in my mythtv box, which I had to compile linux-wlan-ng kernel modules and set up a /etc/wlan/wlancfg-<ess> configuration file.
[07:52] <M_Wettendorff> 05 Frogzoo: i will try. even tho i have no idear of what im doing.. if sometings go wrong, well.. i just reinstall again
[07:52] <david__> intel chipset
[07:52] <david__> ???
[07:53] <kayde> Froogzoo, what is the code in root terminal to put in to get to that file??
[07:53] <hajiki> Can someone tell me what packages I can find these libs in? libXm.so.3, libssl.so.2, libstdc++lib6.2-2.so.3, and libcrypto.so.2
[07:53] <MrFarts> dave_, you are beyond help
[07:53] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: this is very straightforward - system -> prefs -> kb -> layout -> add "danish"
[07:53] <crimsun> hajiki: please use http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[07:53] <Arie_> weird because in all the lists it says it's a realtek
[07:53] <MrFarts> hajiki, libXm should be lesstif/motif
[07:53] <Goldfish> Arie_: If you lsmod | grep prism2, do you see any modules? Hopefully, ubuntu loaded them out of the box. You may just need to /etc/wlan/wlancfg file setup.
[07:53] <hajiki> thank you both
[07:53] <M_Wettendorff> brb
[07:54] <david__> i got it from dick smith
[07:54] <david__> o well
[07:54] <Arie_> Goldfish: In English please? LOL
[07:54] <redguy> hajiki: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search <file_name>
[07:54] <Goldfish> Arie_: Vendors are real nasty about making changes under hood between revs and not telling the consumers....
[07:54] <leather_n_luv> how do i make num-lock come on automaticaly?
[07:54] <kayde> What do i type into root terminal to get into Xorg.conf?? please list
[07:55] <Goldfish> Arie_: Type "lsmod | grep prism" -> do you see any kernel modules listed, indicating ubuntu spotted a prism2 chip anywhere?
[07:55] <Arie_> hold on
[07:55] <redguy> kayde: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:56] <kayde> ty
[07:56] <Arie_> Goldfish: No such luck
[07:56] <hajiki> leather_n_luv, probably in your bios?
[07:56] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: then right click task bar - add to panel -> add application -> preferences -> keyboard
[07:57] <kayde> Redguy; i need it open in gedit plz...
[07:57] <Goldfish> Arie_: Of course, take it with a grain of salt. My other box is debian, not ubuntu. However, the kernel modules are independt of the distro so should hold....
[07:57] <Arie_> Ok
[07:57] <frogzoo> kayde: sudo vi /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[07:57] <leather_n_luv> i did, but the kernel (or grub?) turns it off
[07:57] <Arie_> Goldfish: So what do I do now?
[07:57] <redguy> frogzoo: maybe sudo ed /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:57] <hajiki> leather_n_luv, oh sorry
[07:58] <kayde> ty
[07:58] <Goldfish> Arie_: Okay...type "lspci". Do you see anything with Linksys on it?
[07:58] <frogzoo> redguy: ed :p
[07:58] <redguy> frogzoo: try to beat that! :P
[07:58] <leather_n_luv> it must be a default setting with linux, and only on RH did i find a setting for it...
[07:58] <Goldfish> Arie_: P.S. I have been working with debian for 2+ years, but I am 2-hours young in the world of ubuntu. :)
[07:59] <frogzoo> redguy: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sed - but now we're just being silly
[07:59] <HiddenWolf> Goldfish, easer for next time lspci | grep Linksys
[07:59] <Arie_> Goldfish: No but I see Realtek
[07:59] <kayde> Frogzoo: not working, it needs 2 be opend in gedit-GNOME<ACCESORIES<TEXT EDITOR
[07:59] <redguy> kayde: you propably would have to do something like gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf. really not sure about the gksu part
[07:59] <frogzoo> kayde: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:59] <Goldfish> Arie_: Guess that piece of information was out of whack. Is Realtek the broadcom chipset?
[08:00] <Arie_> Goldfish: I'm a Linux virgin LOL broadcom???
[08:00] <Arie_> Goldfish: I have Linksys
[08:01] <Goldfish> Arie_: Ah ha, found some followup emails that indicated that ver. 4 of WPC 11 is realtek instead of the prism chipset. $(@*% I know how to configure a prism chip.
[08:01] <Goldfish> Aries_: http://lists.shmoo.com/pipermail/hostap/2004-January/005354.html
[08:01] <kayde> gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the right 1 ty
[08:01] <leather_n_luv> for my modem, lspci says: 0000:00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801AA AC'97 Modem (rev 02)
[08:02] <leather_n_luv> is there support?
[08:02] <Arie_> why is my internet so slow???
[08:02] <leather_n_luv> arie: firefox?
[08:02] <redguy> kayde: check if you can write to that file...
[08:02] <frogzoo> Arie_: slow, very slow or ridiculous?
[08:02] <Arie_> yeah firefox
[08:02] <kayde> i can, and i just did :-)
[08:03] <leather_n_luv> type in the address bar 'about:config'
[08:03] <leather_n_luv> no quotes
[08:03] <Arie_> like a lot slower than it was on win2k on a pII 300 laptop
[08:03] <kayde> how come ur writing is red?
[08:03] <redguy> !tell kayde about nicktab
[08:03] <frogzoo> Arie_: and what are you on now?
[08:03] <Arie_> pIII 750
[08:03] <Goldfish> Aires_: Found http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?Keyword=8180 This is the Realtek's web site. You may to download some drivers and build a kernel module. Ready for fun?
[08:04] <leather_n_luv> arie_: you done it?
[08:04] <frogzoo> Arie_: you on dsl?
[08:04] <Arie_> Goldfish: Let's do it
[08:04] <Arie_> leather: yes
[08:04] <Arie_> frogzoo: yes
[08:04] <ashley3453> Hi I was hoping to get help about nvidia TV-out, does anyone know how nvtv fits into the picture ?
[08:04] <frogzoo> Arie_: 1 suggestion - set your mtu to 1440 in /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider
[08:05] <Orborde> What's a nice, Linux-compatible brand of Ethernet NIC?
[08:05] <kayde> redguy, sweet :-)
[08:05] <Orborde> I'm trying to build a router.
[08:05] <redguy> kayde: read what uboutu told you. most irc clients make lines containing your nick red. This helps a lot on a noisy channel like this
[08:05] <frogzoo> Orborde: intel rock
[08:05] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: scroll down till you see 'network.dns.disableIPv6'
[08:05] <Urthmover> so I have a wierd problem...for some reason when I use NX client....the taskbar doesn't come through....does anyone have suggestions?
[08:05] <kayde> redguy, is this red?
[08:05] <Goldfish> Aires_: Give me a second. There is a great howto for linux newbies in building kernels. I won't be able to stay up with you, because it is past my bedtime, but I can give you some tips...
[08:05] <redguy> kayde: yup
[08:05] <slew> hi, on my desktop is an icon for hda1, the win nt partition. i dont have read perms, i cant unmount it, and cant put it in the trash. how do i get rid of the thing, or at least give myself read permission?
[08:05] <kayde> sweet!
[08:05] <Orborde> frogzoo: What about this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006IJOR/qid=1133937688/sr=8-4/ref=pd_bbs_4/102-2237029-0621702?n=507846&s=electronics&v=glance
[08:05] <Urthmover> I get desktop and I'm even looking at it now...buy no taskbar or start button or anything
[08:05] <Urthmover> but
[08:06] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: disable by clicking twice, if it is enabled...
[08:06] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: then restart firefox to get the benefit!
[08:06] <ashley3453> if i boot my computer with only a tv plugged in, no monitor, to change the default settings it uses on the tv, do i need to chang my xorg.conf or nvtv settings ?
[08:07] <Arie_> frogzoo i don;t have that
[08:07] <frogzoo> Orborde: you own that? or considering buying? Microsoft Networking 10/100 Ethernet PCI Adapter
[08:07] <ashley3453> at present it boots in black and white, and i use nvtv GUI to alter a resolution setting to make the colour work, is there a way of automating this ?
[08:08] <Arie_> leather: says false
[08:08] <StDellis> what is the difference between the 386 and 686 when you boot up?
[08:08] <StDellis> which should  be using
[08:08] <Orborde> frogzoo: It's called a joke :)
[08:08] <frogzoo> Arie_: start with the basics - try 'ping -s 500 www.yahoo.com'
[08:08] <Orborde> frogzoo: I'm trying to find about 3 NICs so I can make myself a router.
[08:08] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: double click to make it say true
[08:08] <Arie_> ok
[08:09] <kayde> frogzoo, Do i Ctr+alt+backspace after saving new xorg.conf file?
[08:09] <Orborde> frogzoo: Or should I just buy a big ol' switch and play with that?
[08:09] <redguy> ashley3453: since nobody seems to know, how about reading nvtv's documentation? /usr/share/doc/nvtv is a good place to look for it
[08:09] <Arie_> leather: do i have to close extensions too?
[08:09] <ashley3453> redguy, thanks
[08:09] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: extentions?
[08:10] <frogzoo> Orborde: ok - lol - but the chipset on those might work, then again, I wouldn't bet on it
[08:10] <Arie_> of firefox
[08:10] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: like?
[08:10] <kayde> redguy, do i Ctr+alt+backspace when i save xorg.conf file?
[08:10] <frogzoo> Orborde: would 3 x intel pro 10/100 be doable ?
[08:10] <Arie_> like chatzilla which i'm using to chat to u guys
[08:10] <Arie_> lol
[08:10] <Orborde> frogzoo: If I can find them for under about $10 each, maybe.
[08:11] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: IDK, maybe...
[08:11] <Arie_> ok
[08:11] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: firefox has to read the settings
[08:11] <Orborde> frogzoo: Not sure whether I should just buy a plain ol' hardware router/switch, though.
[08:11] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: after the change
[08:11] <Arie_> Goldfish: U there?
[08:12] <Goldfish> Arie_: Had to jump on a another machine to find this link: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.en
[08:12] <frogzoo> Orborde: you can do some funky qos stuff with iptables - it's an option - re: driver support http://www.scyld.com/eepro100.html
[08:12] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: this worked for me... got this tip from the LUG
[08:12] <redguy> kayde: well you should restart X after changing xorg.conf
[08:12] <Orborde> frogzoo: So that would be an option in favor of buying a stack of NICs?
[08:12] <Goldfish> Arie_: That article is a keeper. It gives a detailed description of you custom build kernels and/or third party modules (like Realtek's drivers), into .deb packages
[08:13] <chrismurf> This is not a sane question... How hard is it to recompile nautilus for ubuntu?  Can I just pull the source out of the package, and recompile it or something?  How much pain am I in for?
[08:13] <Arie_> Goldfish: I have to restart this client
[08:13] <Arie_> brb
[08:13] <pundai> hey can anyone tell me how i can downgrade the ipw2200 driver for breezxy
[08:14] <tga> hey.. I'm having some trouble connecting to my bluetooth phone.. anyone played with obexftp and friends lately?
[08:14] <slew> how can i keep hda1 unmounted? it wants to remount at restart.
[08:15] <M_Wettendorff>  frogzoo: i now have a keyboard indicator right next to the workspace selector... and it sais "DnK" but it still has a difrent layout..
[08:15] <leather_n_luv> slew: it is in "/etc/fstab"
[08:15] <mjr> slew, edit /etc/fstab, add "noauto" to options, a # to the beginning of the line, or remove the line altogether
[08:15] <[adw] > to look for atheros chipset from some of my mlinux.org cohorts.
[08:15] <slew> thx
[08:16] <leather_n_luv> slew: in the 'options' portion, put 'noauto'
[08:16] <M_Wettendorff>  frogzoo: normaly i have to press SHIFT 2 to get the " but that is placed on a difrent place with my current settings
[08:16] <Arie_> Goldfish: Can you post that link again?
[08:17] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: you manage to get a kb selector onto your task bar?
[08:17] <Goldfish> http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.en
[08:17] <Orborde> What file do I need to delete to reset my GTK theme switching-tude?
[08:17] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: is it faster at all?
[08:17] <Goldfish> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?Keyword=8180
[08:18] <M_Wettendorff>  I got a Keyboard indicator.. cant finde the selector
[08:18] <Arie_> not that one
[08:18] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: just left click - & you can change installed kbs
[08:18] <Arie_> leather not really so i installed the fasterfox extension
[08:18] <Arie_> much better
[08:18] <Goldfish> Aries_: Have you read this from ubuntu's site on the realtek? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?highlight=%28wireless%29
[08:18] <Goldfish> Aries_: They have some info on it.....
[08:18] <Arie_> ok
[08:19] <Goldfish> Aries_: Custom building kernel modules is what you do when all other options don't work, i.e. try any other thing first!
[08:19] <M_Wettendorff>  No good..  still the same...
[08:19] <slew> leather_n_luv, mjr, thanks =]
[08:19] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: system -> prefs -> kb -> layout - now add danish
[08:20] <Arie_> ok the card is included in my PCI Bridge
[08:20] <Arie_> In Device Manager
[08:20] <slew> leather_n_luv, mjr, if i wanted to make that hda1 readable to a user, how would i do that?
[08:20] <Arie_> It even lists Linksys as the OEM
[08:21] <M_Wettendorff>  i have added that.. but no good
[08:21] <Arie_> Goldfish?
[08:21] <Goldfish> Arie_: I don't care who the company is. The real key is the chipset, in this realtek. Several other rows point out ndiswrapper. The "XP" driver they are referring to is probably firmware for the card, which is the only reason it would work on both windows and ubuntu.
[08:22] <Arie_> Ok
[08:22] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: do you now have a 'US' on your taskbar?
[08:22] <leather_n_luv> slew: "man fstab" has useful info, but not enough sometimes... but in your case, it should answer the questions you have better than i
[08:22] <Arie_> Well I'm telling you the card is in my Device Manager
[08:22] <Arie_> How do I get it to work?
[08:22] <Arie_> :(
[08:23] <slew> leather_n_luv, thanks =]
[08:23] <leather_n_luv> and you're quite welcome.  look for 'options' in man fstab...
[08:23] <Goldfish> Arie_: This is the ubuntu article on ndiswrapper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[08:23] <M_Wettendorff>  nop..
[08:23] <Arie_> Yeah I tried following it
[08:24] <Arie_> It won't install the driver
[08:24] <dookie> can anyone help me get my video card working, just got ubuntu running
[08:25] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: right click task bar -> add to panel -> #### (something) -> kb  {my batteries are flat, so this is from memory}
[08:25] <Arie_> I hate NdisWrapper :P
[08:25] <Goldfish> I'm not really familiar the ubuntu's device manager yet....I see...looks some a slick frontend for lspci.
[08:25] <Arie_> I don;t know how to make it work
[08:26] <Goldfish> Well...basically you can try to download realtek's 2.6.x kernel module, and use the newbies doc to build a module against your current kernel. I can't cover all that in an IRC channel chat.
[08:26] <Goldfish> Sorry!
[08:26] <Arie_> I have no idea what you mean
[08:26] <Arie_> Ok
[08:27] <Arie_> Thanks for your help though
[08:27] <frogzoo> dookie: whats your gfx card?
[08:27] <dookie> it's an ati 9200
[08:27] <M_Wettendorff>  the only keyboard thing i have is "Keyboard Accessibilty status" and 'keyboard indicator"
[08:27] <qt2> gn
[08:27] <qt2> *hm
[08:28] <frogzoo> dookie: synaptic -> add 'fglrx' - reboot :) (maybe need to tweak, but try that 1st)
[08:28] <dookie> when i start up ubuntu using integrated graphics it loads fine, but when i try using my pci card it get stuck before i can log in
[08:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> 'stuck'?
[08:29] <dookie> get stuck on starting hotplug subsystems, no clue what that's all about
[08:29] <frogzoo> dookie: which pci card?
[08:29] <frogzoo> dookie: why do you think it's your gfx card causing the prob?
[08:29] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: keyboard indicator's what you want
[08:29] <tga> Can't connect RFCOMM socket: Device or resource busy
[08:29] <tga> does this ring a bell to anyone?
[08:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> dookie: have you tried a different slot?
[08:30] <dookie> i don't know if it is, it's just when i set my bios to use integrated graphics everything loads correctly, but when i set it to pci ubuntu won't load
[08:30] <frogzoo> tga: suggest google perhaps
[08:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> tga: any more info?
[08:31] <cast> ummm. where are the debootstrap docs? the wiki is empty
[08:31] <tga> thanks frogzoo, I'm googling away already
[08:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> dookie: are your irq's set to auto in bios?
[08:31] <M_Wettendorff> Frog: I have placed that on there.. But no mather what i do, i cant get promicition to chace the layout
[08:31] <tga> Kamping_Kaiser, I'm trying to connect to my bluetooth phone but I keep running into trouble
[08:31] <dookie> no, would a different slot matter, it works fine in windows
[08:31] <tga> Kamping_Kaiser, I didn't get further than getting the first obexftp --list of the phone
[08:31] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: but if you click the "US" can you see a danish option?
[08:32] <Orborde> What files are controlled by GTK2?
[08:32] <tga> heh, keyboards.. I have a Dutch keyboard here that's causing me a ton of trouble
[08:32] <tga> I have no backspace/pipe key atm
[08:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> tga: not sure what your problem is. sounds like you might need to email the devs of whatever app it is
[08:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> ouch!
[08:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> no pipe :(
[08:33] <frogzoo> dookie: I would really suggest you 1st try your luck with the fglrx driver - youl want that for 3d anyhow
[08:33] <cast> ahh nvm. ill use the knoppix docs
[08:33] <tga> Kamping_Kaiser, http://www.mgi.net.au/main/Nokia_6230i this is what I'm trying to do
[08:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> I'll have a look tga
[08:35] <dookie> thought i read in the forums that ubuntu came with that, and that i'd just be re-installing it
[08:35] <dookie> the fglrx driver i mean
[08:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> net is way to slow
[08:36] <frogzoo> dookie: no - the stock driver is 'ATI'
[08:38] <dookie> i'm reading in this forum here that breezy comes with the 8.16.20 driver, is that not true?
[08:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> cant help you tga, bit outside my experiance :(
[08:39] <tga> oh well, thanks for looking
[08:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell dookie about ati
[08:40] <twitch101> how do i compile tar.bz2 files and binarys?
[08:41] <dookie> !tell kamping_kaiser what's that?
[08:41] <cast> twitch101: that doesn't quite might sense. what are you trying to do?
[08:41] <frogzoo> !fglrx
[08:41] <ubotu> I guess fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: a tar is an archive
[08:41] <frogzoo> tar = tape archive
[08:41] <twitch101> i just downloaded kbear from the debian list or whatever and i need to know how to compile so it runs like a .exe
[08:42] <M_Wettendorff> frogzoo: have now delete the danish keyboard..  that chance the indicator to say "USA" then i added the danish layout again (Looks as the right one) but i cant use it..
[08:42] <twitch101> im used to windows....
[08:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: isnt it in the repositories?
[08:42] <M_Wettendorff> you to..
[08:42] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: damn - did you check the box in layout to enable the danish?
[08:43] <twitch101> it might be but im using a live CD and i cant change the install destination to my external HD
[08:43] <leather_n_luv> WTF is 'slamr'?
[08:43] <M_Wettendorff> nop.. but let me try it
[08:44] <twitch101> a link to the repository would at best get me started...
[08:44] <frogzoo> dookie: this is exactly what you need for fglrx https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:44] <chris86wm> could someone help me install zapping on ubuntu. here is the instructions but the make no since to me http://zapping.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/view/Main/CompileAndInstall
[08:44] <M_Wettendorff> yea...  Now it finaly works..
[08:44] <chris86wm> *they
[08:44] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: woot! - whew
[08:45] <keiron> hello
[08:45] <chris86wm> anyone good at compiling?
[08:45] <ashok> hi
[08:45] <twitch101> i need help with compiling too
[08:45] <frogzoo> chris86wm: define 'good'
[08:45] <twitch101> they said its in the repositories
[08:45] <keiron> i would like to be able to send email from my ubuntu installation using thunderbird. in windows i install an SMTP software to do it for me. in ubuntu, should i install sendmail to do this form me?
[08:45] <chris86wm> well i cant get this to work http://zapping.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/view/Main/CompileAndInstall
[08:46] <M_Wettendorff> Thanks for the help.. i proberly need more help, when im going to install more things
[08:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: what version of ubuntu
[08:46] <twitch101> 5.04 hoary hedgehog
[08:46] <frogzoo> keiron: you don't want sendmail - just define an SMTP server for outbound
[08:46] <chris86wm> i would apt-get it but its the older version and the new one has recording
[08:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> chris86wm: got build-essenal installed?
[08:46] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: yw
[08:46] <keiron> frogzoo: i don't have any access to an SMTP server, i need to make my own machine an SMTP server
[08:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: just a tic
[08:47] <dookie> ok frogzoo thanks, so i just installed ubuntu 5.10 and now i need to go get fglrx, everything else in my comp is what came with the dell, anything else i need to go get or should that be good?
[08:47] <twitch101> alright
[08:47] <chris86wm> not sure
[08:47] <chris86wm> let me check
[08:47] <frogzoo> keiron: usually your ISP will let you use their SMTP mail server - usually it just "mail.ISP.NET"
[08:47] <chris86wm> Kamping_Kaiser: its called build-essential right?
[08:48] <frogzoo> keiron: try ping mail.yourisp.net.xxx
[08:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: http://packages.ubuntu.com/Hoary/net/kbear
[08:48] <mebaran151> anyone here have a 5G iPod
[08:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> !build-essential
[08:48] <twitch101> is that already compiled?
[08:48] <ubotu> Kamping_Kaiser: Are you on ritalin?
[08:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> !info build-essential
[08:48] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[08:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: yes
[08:48] <keiron> frogzoo: my isp doesn't :). doesn't matter, i installed sendmail and it worked first time (smtp set to localhost port 25) :)
[08:48] <fr500> hello
[08:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes it is chris86wm (had to check)
[08:48] <twitch101> thanks alot
[08:49] <mebaran151> I would like to sync my iPod with gtkpod
[08:49] <mebaran151> but it does not work....
[08:49] <fr500> does anyone use multisync and a cell phone?
[08:49] <mebaran151> I am sad...
[08:49] <mebaran151> it fails only silently
[08:49] <fr500> mebaran151: tried banshee?
[08:49] <mebaran151> banshee
[08:49] <mebaran151> just freezes
[08:49] <mebaran151> I thought of that :)
[08:49] <frogzoo> keiron: cool
[08:49] <chris86wm> nope, let me install it
[08:49] <mebaran151> when I try to select a menu action it dies
[08:49] <M_Wettendorff> How long time will there go, before the SPM tells that firefox can be upgradet?
[08:49] <fr500> mebaran151: weird
[08:50] <finite0> i just installed breezy on lvm on raid-1, with a separate /boot that is neither raid nor lvm, and everything seemed to go as expected during install. But then, booting hangs after the initrd's splashscreen.
[08:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> mebaran151: if it fails silently, launch it from a terminal
[08:50] <finite0> when i use lvdiskscren while booted from a live cd, it doesn't see my raid and complains about a duplicate pvid on the two raid disks.
[08:50] <twitch101> kamping_kaiser: it said 404 not found
[08:51] <finite0> but then it sees the raid and ignores the disks after i do a lvm pvdisplay /dev/md0
[08:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: hm.
[08:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's up on my screen right now -> http://packages.ubuntu.com/Hoary/net/kbear sure it's not there?
[08:51] <finite0> any suggestions ?
[08:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh
[08:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hoary lowercase
[08:51] <twitch101> maybe my isp blocking it
[08:51] <twitch101> 5.04 Hoary Hedgehog
[08:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: make the H lowercase
[08:52] <twitch101> ok
[08:52] <twitch101> god your genius
[08:52] <finite0> when i try to boot I get the splash screen, loading modules, then back to text... "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel. Loading please wait...." then nothing. just hangs.
[08:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: scroll down to the bottom for the link
[08:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure if those depends are part of the base system or not
[08:53] <twitch101> i found it thanks
[08:53] <finite0> do I need to make a new initrd to boot off lvm on raid? shouldn't the installer have made this work?
[08:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> probably not if it's a kdeapp
[08:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> finite0: how long for?
[08:53] <twitch101> it will open by itself and install by itself right?
[08:53] <twitch101> it still shows as a .deb file and iono what to do with them
[08:53] <frogzoo> finite0: looks like it finds your kernel fine - sometimes defining the path to init as well helps
[08:53] <finite0> Kamping_Kaiser: indefinitely.
[08:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: you install it with 'sudo dpkg -i debname.deb` ina  terminal
[08:54] <finite0> frogzoo: how would i do that?
[08:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> finite0: oh, ok. that's a bit longer then my record 30 seconds ;)
[08:54] <twitch101> oooo ok is there anything i have to change to make it go to my external HD
[08:54] <Zen> How do I get 3D to work in Ubuntu AMD64 w/ an ATI card?
[08:54] <chris86wm> WTF, it wont let me install build-essential because for some crazy reason it doesnt see that my ubuntu cd is in the drive!?
[08:55] <deFrysk> chris86wm, comment your cd entry out in sources.list
[08:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: try to install it on the live cd, and copy the packages out of /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:55] <frogzoo> finite0: add to /boot/grub/menu.lst the line "initrd /boot/migrt24.gz" or similiar
[08:55] <twitch101> k
[08:55] <dookie> well thank you both, we'll see how the new driver works
[08:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> if yhou can install on a live cd, that's the best way  (gets dependainces as well)
[08:56] <chris86wm> there it goes
[08:56] <finite0> frogzoo: but it's booting from the initrd already.
[08:56] <dirkson> Hello all. I'm desparately trying to get wvdial to run at startup. Could anyone help me? >.<
[08:56] <finite0> so grub must know about the initrd, right?
[08:57] <twitch101> Kamping_Kaiser: which .deb file to i use? do i use the archive manager to take the files out of the .tar.gz?
[08:58] <chris86wm> still configuring libc6............
[08:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: have you installed it on the live cd?
[08:58] <twitch101> i dont know what to put for "debname.deb
[08:58] <budai> ison Orby
[08:59] <budai> ison ogra
[08:59] <budai> oh
[08:59] <twitch101> or do i do those exact words?
[08:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: the one you downloaded from packages. ubuntu
[08:59] <frogzoo> finite0: mmm mumble - Id put it in, cos it can't hurt - also, do you have mount points for your various filesystems?
[08:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> no. debname.deb is the paacke name from ubuntu.com
[08:59] <chris86wm> Kamping_Kaiser: ok i got it installed
[09:00] <twitch101>  so i do type that ok i thought you were using it as a variable
[09:00] <finite0> i have only what the installer gave me... my two filesystems are /boot and /, and /boot is /dev/hda1 and / should be /dev/mapper/myvg-root
[09:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> chris86wm: cool
[09:01] <finite0> the only way i have of mounting my filesystem and looking at it is by booting from the live cd, where lvm at first seems to see the raid physical volumes as lvm PVs
[09:01] <twitch101> ok and here is what i got for typing what you typed "dpkg: unknown option -1
[09:01] <Kaiser_Eats> bbl
[09:01] <chris86wm> Kamping_Kaiser: well i got build-essentials installed lol
[09:02] <finite0> ... but lvm then sees the raid as it's PV after lvm pvdisplay /dev/md0
[09:02] <Kaiser_Eats> chris86wm: now you can try and compile :)
[09:02] <Szehne> can someone walk me through the compiling process from C++ source to executable?
[09:02] <brownie17> can anyone tell me, is there a way to load different sessions for different users automatically?
[09:03] <Szehne> please
[09:03] <finite0> this is my first lvm experience and so far I am very unimpressed. From reading the wiki it sounds like LVM was almost default in breezy installer... sure am glad that didn't happen
[09:04] <brownie17> Szehne, it is often difficult to get a response in here, even when you know someone knows the answer to your problem, keep trying
[09:04] <brownie17> Szehne, and don't get told off for repeating, because you weren't answered a reasonably easy question.
[09:04] <twitch101> anybody know where i go from "dpkg: unknown option -1
[09:04] <twitch101> Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*] ;
[09:04] <twitch101> Use dselect for user-friendly package management;
[09:04] <twitch101> Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;
[09:04] <twitch101> Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;
[09:04] <twitch101> Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;
[09:04] <twitch101> Type dpkg --licence for copyright licence and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*] .
[09:04] <twitch101> Options marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[09:04] <frogzoo> Szehne: g++ prog.c -o prog
[09:04] <brownie17> twitch101, pastebin!!!!
[09:04] <twitch101> yes i know srry....
[09:05] <brownie17> that;s ok
[09:05] <frogzoo> twitch101: that should be an 'i' (as in eye) - not '1' as in one
[09:05] <brownie17> you'll be lucky if you don't get banned
[09:05] <Szehne> frogzoo- what's all of this that i hear about make-files and stuff
[09:05] <twitch101> omg.....so tired alright
[09:05] <Pygi> Szehne: your making your own app? any gui? anjuta?
[09:06] <brownie17> who knows where i can find a bigger help site for any linux distro?
[09:06] <Szehne> i was just trying to make helloworld using the gnome builder tool
[09:06] <brownie17> sorry, i mean help channel
[09:06] <frogzoo> Szehne: makefiles are the config files to a tool called make - that takes care of automating the build process - usually just a "make config; make ; make install" is all you need - but always check the docs/readmes
[09:06] <dabaR> brownie17: they are gnu/linux distros mostly, and #linux exists
[09:07] <Szehne> so basically, i just cd into the dir with the makefile and type make... blablabla
[09:08] <frogzoo> Szehne: like I say, that usual - but always read the readme & install files
[09:08] <twitch101> frogzoo do you know if i need to type the whole path to make it find the .deb on my external HD
[09:08] <frogzoo> twitch101: indeed you do
[09:08] <twitch101> ok
[09:08] <Szehne> cool, it's just i'm a c# developer coming over from the darkside... to A unix... not sure which one
[09:08] <frogzoo> twitch101: or just cd to the directory, & 'dpkg -i ./file.deb'
[09:10] <twitch101> its a live cd
[09:10] <frogzoo> twitch101: same deal
[09:11] <twitch101> so far im going to go with kaisers idea and install it default and copy it to my HD fro there
[09:11] <Szehne> i really can't decide- i'd like to go with linux, but i was also told that i could learn a lot more from a BSD...
[09:11] <twitch101> i didnt understand what you told really either....
[09:11] <brownie17> Szehne, um.,.. i think BSD is *nix
[09:12] <[Jonne] > Szehne, are you the guy from ubuntuforums?
[09:12] <Szehne> brownie17-> it is, of course; but things are very different
[09:12] <Szehne> jonne> what meanest thou?
[09:12] <[Jonne] > did you post a thread about that bsd thing in ubuntuforums?
[09:13] <brownie17> who knows anything about sessions and changing desktop managers!?
[09:13] <Szehne> na- the only thing i posted there was for help for my bloody laptop wireless card... which still won't work
[09:13] <Szehne> i try to not play with fire... especially on USENET
[09:13] <[Jonne] > so you're not this guy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99363 ?
[09:13] <mahangu>  brownie17 shoot
[09:14] <twitch101> at least your laptop can take a newer pc card.....unlike my t55C thinkpad AKA"the brick"
[09:14] <david__> ubotu on?
[09:14] <ubotu> I don't know, david__
[09:14] <twitch101> *755C
[09:14] <dabaR> Szehne: you can perhaps learn as much, just about a different thing, and many things on GNU/Linux have been sugar coated, which have not on BSD, that is what they mean perhaps, cause you will have a harder time with some things there(harder meaning more work). Most of us here, I believe, were not really BSD users ever, so can not answer that.
[09:14] <david__> far out that was quick
[09:14] <Szehne> na- if i posted anything, it'd be under the name "Szehne"
[09:14] <lanjelot> hi, is there a way to active the Trash feature when i delete files from a monted partition ?
[09:14] <dabaR> !ubotu
[09:14] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[09:14] <dabaR> oh
[09:15] <david__> ubotu can you help me wit my modem
[09:15] <ubotu> david__: I haven't a clue
[09:15] <dabaR> david__: ubotu is a bot. read the private messages he will send you.
[09:16] <ardchoille> how do I disable the Bluetooth service
[09:16] <Szehne> (please don't flame me): is linux or bsd easier for complete customization and minimalistic design? which is easier to develop on (though, i'm interested in straight X design)
[09:16] <ardchoille> I think it's hcip, but I am not for sure
[09:17] <Glossary> it sais i dont have enough priviliges to access the "home" folder!!! how can i fix it
[09:17] <dabaR> Szehne: I told you most here never used BSD. also, it is GNU/LInux, and we mostly all use Ubuntuof all the different Gnu/LInuxes.
[09:17] <dabaR> which are all different among themselves.
[09:17] <Szehne> gotcha- i'll go elsewhere with that question
[09:17] <twitch101> alright somebody can they write me a terminal command to install kbear that is located here "/media/usbdisk/a"
[09:18] <dabaR> Szehne: or rephrase to make it one about ubuntu.
[09:18] <twitch101> this is in ubuntu
[09:18] <Szehne> i understand
[09:18] <Glossary> PLEASE help.
[09:18] <frogzoo> !tell david__ about modems
[09:18] <Szehne> but sometimes people of wisdom gather in IRC with more than one distribution or OS of experience
[09:19] <dabaR> Glossary: open a terminal, and type ls /home and post the line related to your home folder to this channel, please.
[09:19] <frogzoo> ping
[09:19] <david__> ubotu where can i get drivers for my 536EP data fax modem?
[09:19] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, david__
[09:19] <david__> y not
[09:19] <Glossary> dabaR, root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu/Desktop/Downloads/Data/cpani # ls /home
[09:19] <Glossary> bandmin-install  exim4-install  ftpup-install  hybrid-shells  ubuntu
[09:19] <dabaR> david__: he answers keywords, like...
[09:19] <ardchoille> ubotu: can be hilarious at times :)
[09:19] <ubotu> ardchoille: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:20] <ardchoille> lol
[09:20] <twitch101> ok whatever i give up thanks for tryin to help i guess ill just stick to windows
[09:20] <dabaR> Glossary: sorry, ls -l /home, and only the one line that is for ubuntu
[09:20] <twitch101> laters
[09:20] <dabaR> see ya
[09:20] <david__> sorry
[09:20] <david__> i didnt know it was a bot
[09:21] <Glossary> dabaR,  drwx-----x  47 ubuntu ubuntu 4096 2005-12-07 09:56 ubuntu
[09:21] <mebaran151> yay I got it to work
[09:21] <mebaran151> hal was being mean
[09:21] <Glossary> those other folders other than ubuntu I didnt add them!!!
[09:21] <dabaR> Glossary: if you are the ubuntu user, you have proper permissions.
[09:21] <Glossary> i was installing a huge file.. probably it did that
[09:21] <dabaR> ubotu repos
[09:21] <ubotu> I guess repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[09:21] <Glossary> dabaR, how can i have full access?
[09:21] <ranman> Hello
[09:21] <dabaR> david__: see, that is how he works, only if you have a keyword in mind.
[09:21] <mebaran151> what's a quick way to convert my oggvorbis files to mp3
[09:21] <mebaran151> without losing too much quality
[09:22] <dabaR> Glossary: are you user ubuntu?
[09:22] <mebaran151> 160 ogg to 160 mp3
[09:22] <Glossary> dabaR, yea
[09:22] <dabaR> Glossary: you have full access.
[09:22] <ranman> Hello?
[09:22] <Glossary> dabaR,  how come it sais cant see the folder contents?
[09:22] <dabaR> Glossary: when you install some services, like the ftp you get a folder there.
[09:23] <dabaR> Glossary: show me the error.
[09:23] <Glossary> its when i try to open it with Nautilus
[09:23] <dabaR> ranman: we dont always have time to say hello to everyone that comes in.
[09:23] <dabaR> feel free to ask if you need anything.
[09:23] <ranman> Hi, can you hear me?
[09:24] <dabaR> Glossary: open even just the home dir?
[09:24] <dabaR> ranman: hi,.
[09:24] <dabaR> ^
[09:24] <Glossary> dabaR, wat??
[09:24] <ranman> Oh good I was just confused because of the colors...
[09:24] <dabaR> Glossary: the message about permissions appears when you do what?
[09:24] <ranman> chmod 777 *
[09:25] <ranman> Ha... very funny
[09:25] <Glossary> dabaR, when i double click on "home"
[09:25] <dabaR> Glossary: when logged in as ubuntu?
[09:25] <Glossary> dabaR, yup
[09:26] <Glossary> dabaR, there's a red square with a white X on the folder
[09:26] <dabaR> Glossary: well, it should work, looking at the permissions. did it start after you used chmod 701 /home/ubuntu, like amaranth told you?
[09:26] <Glossary> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "home".
[09:27] <MAPD> hi
[09:28] <ranman> you need to sudo in and type in "chmod 777 /home/*"
[09:28] <yatesy> err
[09:28] <ranman> and whatever the option to make it recusive is
[09:28] <ranman> i think its r
[09:28] <yatesy> yea thats secure =)
[09:28] <ranman> lol
[09:28] <MAPD> help me pls
[09:28] <ranman> Then learn about chmod and fix your permissions how you want them
[09:28] <dabaR> MAPD: state the issue, pls.
[09:29] <MAPD> for example a pc running ubuntu as a server and two connected to them is it possible to set security permissions on the other two?
[09:29] <dabaR> ranman: he is user ubuntu. the owner and group of directory is ubuntu, and permissions are set to 701.
[09:29] <MAPD> the server blocking ports and stuff?
[09:29] <dabaR> MAPD: a server of what?
[09:29] <dabaR> the Internet connnection?
[09:29] <yatesy> goatse
[09:29] <MAPD> dabaR just a server sometimes they call it a router
[09:29] <MAPD> or something
[09:29] <ranman> Hey Glossary don't do anything I tell you
[09:30] <yatesy> laff u don't even know
[09:30] <Glossary> dabaR, you still remember.. yea it started after the chmod + it started after i cancelled some installation in the middle of it
[09:30] <ranman> OH!
[09:30] <Lenny> are you trying to turn it into a firewall for the other pcs?
[09:30] <MAPD> Lenny me? kind of and sharing internet
[09:30] <ranman> You should Re-install thats really easy just delete everything... unless you have good data then you have to be tedious...
[09:31] <ranman> by delete everything I mean like reformat
[09:31] <MAPD> xspades you meant me right?
[09:31] <ranman> and completly reinstall
[09:31] <dabaR> try then what ranman said: "chmod -R 755 /home/ubuntu" this will make all files in your directory readable to all usrs of the system.
[09:31] <Glossary> dabaR, how can i remove the red square with the X off the home folder?
[09:31] <ranman> but make sure your're internet is turned off
[09:31] <ranman> when you do that
[09:31] <brownie17> mahangu_, why did you say shoot?
[09:31] <ranman> ok
[09:31] <xspades> MAPD: yes, it sounded like you want machine 1 to be inbetween the net and your other pcs
[09:32] <ranman> right click on properties on the folder
[09:32] <dabaR> ranman: can you explain as to why that would be a good idea, and to whom you suggested that?
[09:32] <Glossary> ranman, and?
[09:32] <mahangu_> brownie17, i said, ask away.. i use three different WMs
[09:32] <ranman> and goto permissions and tell me what it says
[09:32] <ranman> it should have lots of little check boxes
[09:32] <tux75> hi there i've some troubles in installing ubuntu on my pc! it damage others partitions fs! can anybody there help me?
[09:32] <Glossary> ranman, yea all disabled..
[09:32] <dabaR> Glossary: the "chmod -R 755 /home/ubuntu" message above was for you
[09:33] <ranman> You might have to sudo in first though...
[09:34] <Glossary> dabaR, ranman  didnt work i still cant get into the folder
[09:34] <ranman> only twenty four mins remaning for all of the packages to be downloaded =) no one cares...
[09:34] <dabaR> MAPD: see, how it works is, there are server programs that can run on a computer. a database server, a web server, a code repository server, a internet connection server. a server program offers other machines services. in your case, if you say it givesother computers the Internet connection, and they call it a router, then it is the Internet connection server.
[09:34] <ranman> One bad thing about ubuntuu is there is no root...
[09:34] <dabaR> Glossary: show me the ubuntu line of ls -l /home again, please.
[09:34] <xspades> ranman sudo -s
[09:34] <ranman> I know
[09:34] <ranman> but its still not the same
[09:35] <Glossary> dabaR, oh ok now it worked i just removed the ubuntu from that line y'all gave me
[09:35] <dabaR> its a feature, not a bug.
[09:35] <xspades> shows me hash, i think root
[09:35] <dabaR> so your /home folder itself was locked maybe.
[09:35] <mebaran151> any ogg to mp3 scripts exist
[09:35] <ranman> Lol... maybe but i like being able to type root on the login and impress all of my friends at school
[09:35] <Glossary> ya dunno
[09:35] <ranman> Uh... try google
[09:35] <yatesy> yea thats impressive isn't it
[09:35] <tux75> nobody can help me?
[09:35] <ranman> tux? what do you need?
[09:36] <dabaR> MAPD: what the internet connection(IC) server does is forward packets to computers it allows on its network. It has total control over what packets it forwards.
[09:36] <ranman> Glossary how recently did you install ubuntu on this computer?
[09:36] <yatesy> and iptables is not for beginners ;)
[09:36] <tux75> i need one help: when i install ubuntu 5.10 on my pc it damage the fs of slackware partition.
[09:36] <tux75> why??
[09:36] <Glossary> ranman, two weeks or smth
[09:36] <yatesy> because you told it to?
[09:36] <MAPD> dabaR
[09:36] <MAPD> can you advise me the programs?
[09:37] <ranman> Glossary: ok then never mind...
[09:37] <dabaR> MAPD: well, is the computer running the IC server program an ubuntu computer?
[09:37] <MAPD> yes
[09:37] <ranman> tux75: Did you check the partitions before you installed?
[09:37] <dabaR> MAPD: who set it up?
[09:37] <MAPD> me
[09:37] <MAPD> im trying
[09:37] <MAPD> :P
[09:37] <MiSS_n00b> is there a way i can drag and drop files from the desktop into /usr folder it keeps saying i have to be root how do i do that
[09:37] <tux75> i only say where mount it.
[09:38] <MAPD> but have others in windows and i wanted them to get access too
[09:38] <Glossary> ranman, why what was the q for?
[09:38] <tux75> how can i check this partition?
[09:38] <dabaR> ranman: you can always enable the root account. read more at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:38] <ranman> Glossary: no reason
[09:38] <dabaR> MAPD: is there an Internet connection on the computers after this one?
[09:38] <MAPD> and im going to run squid too
[09:38] <ranman> dabaR: I know thanks dabaR but i barely every use ubuntu anyway
[09:38] <MAPD> no
[09:38] <dabaR> MiSS_n00b: why move files into the /usr folder?
[09:39] <MiSS_n00b> im trying to install gyache
[09:39] <MAPD> dabaR know what
[09:39] <Glossary> okkay
[09:39] <MiSS_n00b> and i unzipped them to the desktop they were sposed to go in the uisr folder
[09:39] <MAPD> i have to go to school now
[09:39] <MAPD> youll explain me later
[09:39] <MAPD> .)
[09:39] <ranman> Are there any good graphing calculators that you guys would suggest?
[09:39] <MAPD> texas instruments
[09:39] <MAPD> or hp
[09:40] <Glossary> how can i be root??
[09:40] <Glossary> and access all the folders?
[09:40] <SCMark> Glossary: with sudo
[09:40] <MAPD> byebye
[09:40] <ranman> Type in sudo -s and then your pass word
[09:40] <dabaR> Glossary: use sudo. and visit the page I referenced above to learn more.
[09:40] <tux75> Glossary, u must to do: "sudo -s"
[09:41] <dabaR> MiSS_n00b: how do you know where they are supposed to go?
[09:41] <NewIRC> i do a sudo apt-get install xboard , when this command finish ?  where i can find the program ?
[09:41] <Glossary> tux75, dont work.
[09:41] <Glossary> dabaR, what page man?
[09:41] <dabaR> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:41] <highvoltage> what's the package name for the linux kernel sources in ubuntu?
[09:41] <ranman> all: well, goodnight... nice meeting you all hope I wasn't to annoying =) and here glossary http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:41] <MiSS_n00b> well because on my desktop they are in folders like usr/lib/win32/
[09:42] <dabaR> ranman: no, just work onn it some more.
[09:42] <tux75> hey there. nobody know an answer to my problem?? :(
[09:42] <dabaR> ranman: like, not giving advice if you are not sure.
[09:42] <highvoltage> ubotu: kernel sources
[09:42] <ubotu> highvoltage: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:42] <MiSS_n00b> etc
[09:42] <ranman> dabar: Ok, lol cya
[09:42] <highvoltage> ubotu: in bits, yes
[09:42] <MiSS_n00b> home/melz/Desktop/usr/local/share/gyach
[09:42] <ubotu> highvoltage: Are you on ritalin?
[09:42] <MiSS_n00b> like that
[09:42] <highvoltage> ubotu: i should be
[09:42] <ubotu> highvoltage: Are you smoking crack?
[09:42] <dabaR> tux75: what would you consider help, as to your install having damaged your other partition?
[09:42] <Madpilot> highvoltage: you can play with the bot via /msg , you know...
[09:43] <highvoltage> Madpilot: yes, sorry.
[09:43] <dabaR> highvoltage: aptitude search source?
[09:43] <highvoltage> dabaR: not much luck there either
[09:43] <Glossary> dabaR, but i need to be root in the graphical thingy.. it sais its impossible
[09:43] <highvoltage> dabaR: sorry, that gives me another result to apt-cache search, somehow
[09:44] <MiSS_n00b> thats what i need glossary:(
[09:44] <dabaR> highvoltage: kernel-source-2.6.10 for example exists, search for kernel-source
[09:44] <highvoltage> hmmm apt-get kernel-source gets a 2.4 kernel. that's weird.
[09:44] <dabaR> Glossary: for what reason do you need to be root?
[09:45] <Glossary> dabaR, i wanna create files and edit them using the Graphical interface
[09:45] <Glossary> MiSS_n00b, :)
[09:45] <Glossary> ubotu, hey
[09:45] <ubotu> hola
[09:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[09:45] <dabaR> MiSS_n00b: did you try running those files while they are where they are?
[09:46] <MiSS_n00b> yes nothing happens
[09:46] <dabaR> MiSS_n00b: nothing never happened, cause its nothing.
[09:46] <MiSS_n00b> if i try moving them like this "mv /home/melz/Desktop/usr/lib/win32/tsd32.dll /usr/lib/win32/tsd32.dll"  it says "mv: cannot move `/home/melz/Desktop/usr/lib/win32/tsd32.dll' to `/usr/lib/win32/tsd32.dll': No such file or directory"
[09:46] <MiSS_n00b> what am i doing wrong?
[09:46] <Razor-X> hy does ndiwrapper refuse to comile on 2.6.12-10-686 ?
[09:46] <Razor-X> *why
[09:46] <Razor-X> *ndiswrapper
[09:47] <Razor-X> *compile
[09:47] <MiSS_n00b> lol
[09:47] <Razor-X> wow, that was a lot of typos
[09:47] <MiSS_n00b> typonese:P
[09:47] <Razor-X> errr, it compiles
[09:47] <dabaR> Razor-X: spam
[09:47] <dabaR> MiSS_n00b: it means the first file name you said does not exist.
[09:47] <Razor-X> but, I try and load it, and it gives me an error of wrong module format
[09:47] <dabaR> MiSS_n00b: what are the files, a program?
[09:48] <Razor-X> dabaR: my thought process isn't efficient enough to catch all my spelling errors in one run-through
[09:48] <MiSS_n00b> yes they are gyach enhanced files
[09:48] <dabaR> MiSS_n00b: so a program?
[09:48] <MiSS_n00b> yes a program
[09:48] <dabaR> and what is the command to run it, gyach?
[09:48] <tux75> dabaR, i reinstalled an image of damages partitions so i need help to install ubuntu without any others troubles.
[09:48] <MiSS_n00b> yep
[09:49] <dabaR> tux75: is it now installed?
[09:49] <MiSS_n00b> command not found
[09:49] <Glossary> lol sweet bot
[09:49] <Glossary> ubotu, how ya doin' ?
[09:49] <Glossary> ubotu, how you doing?
[09:49] <ubotu> Glossary: No idea
[09:49] <ubotu> Glossary: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[09:49] <ubuntu_> yea sorry its Glossary
[09:49] <dabaR> MiSS_n00b: and when you try running it, what exactly happens? remember, nothing can not happen.
[09:49] <ubuntu_> anyway dabaR i said
[09:49] <thoreauputic> ah ubotu is back
[09:49] <MiSS_n00b> root@ubuntu:~ # gyach
[09:49] <MiSS_n00b> -bash: gyach: command not found
[09:50] <MiSS_n00b> sorry
[09:50] <MiSS_n00b> if i try to open it from the gyach icon in the gui it does notrhing:-S
[09:50] <MiSS_n00b> this is so confusing
[09:50] <dabaR> MiSS_n00b: ya, its not in your path at all. but, what exact folder is the gyach executable file in? you can find out by trying to get ls to echo it, or just browse to it using nautilus the file manager window.
[09:51] <Razor-X> or try a ``locate gyach''
[09:51] <tux75> ubuntu is not installed yet. it didn't work
[09:51] <Glossary> dabaR, lossary dabaR, i wanna create files and edit them using the Graphical interface
[09:51] <Glossary> vadimII whats that btw?
[09:51] <MiSS_n00b> home/melz/Desktop/usr/local/bin/gyach is where it is
[09:51] <tux75> so i removed it in the hope of any help from community
[09:52] <Razor-X> MiSS_n00b: then simply ``/home/melz/Desktop/usr/local/bin/gyach'' should work
[09:52] <MiSS_n00b> ooh /home/melz/Desktop/usr/local/bin/gyach: error while loading shared libraries: libltdl.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:52] <MiSS_n00b> ok i need that
[09:52] <Nikusan> What's the difference between restricted copyright and non-free in the repos?
[09:52] <YukiIkyuta> MiSS_n00b, install libltdl3
[09:53] <YukiIkyuta> MiSS_n00b, do you know how to install packages?
[09:53] <thoreauputic> rob1: a member running as root? Strange if so
[09:53] <dabaR> Nikusan: in the repos where? usually restricted and non-free is meant to be same.
[09:53] <MiSS_n00b> sudo apt-get install libltdl3
[09:53] <YukiIkyuta> MiSS_n00b, try a console!
[09:53] <MiSS_n00b> that
[09:53] <MiSS_n00b> is working
[09:53] <MiSS_n00b> ty
[09:53] <thoreauputic> ah he left
[09:54] <MiSS_n00b> a console :O
[09:54] <Glossary> GUYS please help i think ive been HACKED.. whats VadimII !!!!
[09:54] <MiSS_n00b> i'm not called n00b for nothin ;)
[09:54] <rob1> thoreauputic, heck no
[09:54] <rob1> thoreauputic, just messing with #debian
[09:54] <YukiIkyuta> Glossary, no one will listen if you yell!
[09:54] <Durban> hey, can u guys help me, Ive never used Linux, and I just built a 64 bit machine, does anyone know where i can find out if my hardware is compatible
[09:54] <tux75> dabaR, may i hope in your help to understand how intall ubuntu again without any troubles?
[09:54] <thoreauputic> Glossary: what makes you think yoou've been hacked?
[09:54] <thoreauputic> rob1: OK :)
[09:54] <yatesy> Durban: use dmesg and see if its been detected
[09:55] <dabaR> tux75: ask me a specific question, and I will be glad to help. how did the slackware partition get damaged?
[09:55] <MiSS_n00b> well now im getting (gyach:7140): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[09:55] <dabaR> tux75: meaning, in what way?
[09:55] <Glossary> im not yelling dude
[09:55] <liable> rob1: thats a strange thing to say.
[09:55] <MiSS_n00b> i guess i better ask the gyach ppls :-S
[09:55] <Durban> well, My machines not here yet, its shipping from the US, so i was gonna see if i could find any documentation before i downloaded Linux
[09:55] <thoreauputic> MiSS_n00b: don't run it aas root
[09:55] <Nikusan> dabaR, in my sources.list some of the apt lines have restricted, some have both restricted and non-free. So they're the same thing?
[09:55] <thoreauputic> *as
[09:55] <YukiIkyuta> MiSS_n00b, did you install the package?
[09:55] <MiSS_n00b> yeah it installed
[09:55] <YukiIkyuta> Oops, didn't read back ..
[09:56] <YukiIkyuta> Make sure X is open, and make sure you're trying to run gyach as the user logged into X.
[09:56] <tux75> i used simply the installation procedure of ubuntu. about slackware partition i said where mount the partition and not more.
[09:56] <dabaR> Nikusan: you likely have a debian repo, so I suggest you post your sources.list to paste.ubuntulinux.nl, so we can tell you which lines are safe to use.
[09:56] <redguy|work> Glossary: does that mean that you successfully configured apache?
[09:56] <Durban> So does anyone know a good place to find hardware compatability documentation, as well as will this distro work with a 64 bit machine
[09:56] <liable> rob1: well, you just gained the attention of one op...
[09:56] <rob1> liable, no, just checking that they are still running that bot that says "root has landed" when you log in as root (I'm not root btw!)
[09:56] <MiSS_n00b> oh w00t it works tyvm for your help guys:D:D
[09:56] <YukiIkyuta> MiSS_n00b, good job.
[09:56] <rob1> liable, probably
[09:56] <MiSS_n00b> yay
[09:56] <liable> rob1: ok.
[09:56] <tux75> the 1st question maybe: are there installations parameter that i can set to proced "as expert" to have a best control of procedure?
[09:57] <GTroy> Durban: find a local linux group and get a free live cd
[09:57] <chenman> hi
[09:57] <YukiIkyuta> Durban, you bet it'll work with 64-bit.
[09:57] <tux75> the 2nd may be who authorized ubuntu installer to modify slackware filesystem?
[09:57] <dabaR> Nikusan: check out http://gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html for a discussion on categories of software.
[09:58] <Nikusan> thanks dabaR
[09:58] <tux75> 3rd: do you know any step2step installation tutorial, to know how procede surelly?
[09:58] <dabaR> Durban: the wiki.ubuntu.com site.
[09:59] <dabaR> Nikusan: also paste your sources.list to paste.ubuntulinux.nl, cause normally there is no non-free free distinction specifically explicitly mentioned in the ubuntu components.
[09:59] <dabaR> !components
[09:59] <ubotu> components is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[09:59] <YukiIkyuta> tux75, *you* authorised the installer, quite likely.
[09:59] <thoreauputic> tux75: you know about #ubuntu-it , right ?
[10:00] <thoreauputic> !it
[10:00] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:00] <Durban> sweet, i just need to find if my Asrock 939 mobo is supported , im pretty confident my ati card will be supported, my mobo just has shit loads of onboard stuff that i need to be supported
[10:01] <dabaR> tux75: if you dont give it permission, or do it yourself, installer does not change any partition.
[10:01] <infectedfx> Hello ppl
[10:02] <dabaR> tux75: unfort, there is only a step by step tutorial for how to go about the "install-on-my-whole-drive" install, which is self-explanatory anyhow.
[10:02] <topyli> tux75: 1. to do an expert install, press F1 to see the boot options. one should be "server" or "expert" IIRC. 2. the installer doesn't modify any filesystems save those you give it permission to
[10:02] <infectedfx> Quick question I donwload I mean install the Enlightenment on my ubuntu, but now I forgot how can I start from there
[10:02] <dabaR> tux75: if you already screwed up the normal install, the expert one won't be much use.
[10:03] <redguy|work> infectedfx: try a longer question
[10:03] <infectedfx> ok :)
[10:03] <joedj> does ubuntu (kunbutu in fact) install things like the XDamage and Composite extensions by default? how would i tell if i have them?
[10:03] <infectedfx> Longer question I donwload I mean install the Enlightenment on my ubuntu, but now I forgot how can I start from there
[10:04] <ubuntu_> IT has something to do with that chmod thing you gave me man !!!!!
[10:04] <tux75> i know #ubuntu-it but people don't seem able to help me, thoreauputic
[10:04] <tux75> YukiIkyuta, i haven't uathorised nothin, expecially fs modification. by the way i have denied any permissions (if provided by default).
[10:04] <topyli> joedj: it doesn't enable them
[10:04] <redguy|work> infectedfx: no go, still can't understand you
[10:04] <GTroy> infectedfx try the login screen under session
[10:04] <joedj> topyli: so they are installed, but disabled?
[10:04] <ubuntu_> dabaR, man!
[10:04] <dabaR> infectedfx: how do you enter enlightenment, is that it?
[10:04] <topyli> joedj: afaik they are part of x now
[10:04] <GTroy> log out, and then select session
[10:05] <infectedfx> ok well I went into the synaptic and install  Enlightenment, I want to use it instead of gnome, but when I boot up to choose the session is not there.. so how can I use it or start using it
[10:05] <dabaR> tux75: how was the partition modified?
[10:05] <topyli> joedj: you can enable them yourself if you want the eye candy (and your hardware is up to it)
[10:05] <joedj> ah, i do indeed have 'em installed (libxdamage1 and libxcomposite1 packages)
[10:05] <joedj> topyli: know how, offhand?
[10:05] <chito> hey
[10:05] <chito> wazup
[10:06] <dabaR> infectedfx: what I would do, is visit the ubuntuforums.org, and search for enlightenment.
[10:06] <infectedfx> ok do u know the website for the forum by chance?
[10:06] <ubuntu_> could someone help me please??
[10:06] <infectedfx> lol sorry
[10:06] <infectedfx> I gotta :)
[10:06] <topyli> joedj: edit xorg.conf. in section "extensions" add option "composite" "enable"
[10:06] <tux75> dabaR, i have slackware on /dev/hda5. after ubuntu installer works slackware askme for fsck manual start coz fs was damaged!
[10:07] <chito> how can i hack user password from yahoo messenger? pls.help me
[10:07] <dabaR> tux75: that is not common. that is all I can tell you about it.
[10:07] <dabaR> chito: what, sorry?
[10:07] <topyli> joedj: in section "device", add option "RenderAccel" "true" and option "AllowGLXWithComposite"
[10:07] <infectedfx> how can i hack user password from yahoo messenger? pls.help me <-- mm dude I think u r in the wrong place.. lol
[10:07] <ubuntu_> dabaR, please man
[10:07] <dabaR> chito: can you explain, using commmon terms?
[10:08] <dabaR> ubuntu_: what is wrong? explain your issue clearly.
[10:08] <joedj> topyli: hrm, i haven't got an Extensions section, think it's ok just to add it? doh, i was explicitly told to set RenderAccel to false by the ubuntu documentation for the nvidia driver :)
[10:08] <topyli> joedj: with ati cards the RenderAccel option should be replaced with "backiingstore"
[10:08] <chito> i want to get the password of my gf in her ym, can u help me?
[10:08] <tux75> ok, thanks for now. i hope to use well your help. i'll say you all when i did.
[10:08] <brownie17> chito, illegal, don't ask here and don't try
[10:09] <chito> ok.sorry
[10:09] <brownie17> chito, why do you want it,there are less illegal methods, pm me
[10:09] <chito> just want help
[10:09] <topyli> joedj: then you can run "xcompmgr -cfF" for example
[10:09] <infectedfx> chito: first I believe u r in the wrong channel , second, u can ask that in a hack channel or crack channel
[10:10] <chito> sorry guys
[10:10] <ubuntu_> dabaR, something called vadimII keeps opening alone and eating my CPU % each time i kill it with the manager it sais it needs the password i put anything and it gets killed + its getting me disconnected whenever it runs
[10:10] <topyli> joedj: the "Extensions" section goes under "the "module" section. but i don't know what it means that you were explicitly told not to do it...
[10:11] <infectedfx> well dabaR I dont see anything about what I ask.. but anyway can u just give me an idea where am I suppost to go?
[10:11] <topyli> chito: ask her
[10:11] <joedj> topyli: the docs for the nvidia driver say that RenderAccel has a slow memory leak/crashing problem
[10:11] <dabaR> ubuntu_: and you used what exact command?
[10:12] <topyli> joedj: bummer :)
[10:12] <ubuntu_> command? System Monitor man..
[10:12] <joedj> topyli: trying it out anyway. will that also enable the XDamage extension, or just composite?
[10:12] <topyli> joedj: oh i haven't tried xdamage
[10:13] <dabaR> ubuntu_: if you use man less, your sentences will be more pleasant to read, as a side note. What command exactly did you run, you said some chmod I told you? i told you a safe command. what did you run?
[10:13] <topyli> joedj: i had fun with composite for like 10 minutes and disabled it then :)
[10:13] <joedj> topyli: hehe, i see
[10:13] <joedj> topyli: what's that xcompmgr command do? it's being apt-got now
[10:14] <topyli> joedj: that's what actually draws the shadows and fade effects
[10:15] <dabaR> infectedfx: I am having a hard time connecting to the forums for some reason.
[10:15] <Fujitsu> dabaR, what do you mean?
[10:16] <ubuntu_> dabaR, the one you gave me i dont know if it has anything to do with it
[10:16] <ubuntu_> how can i just stop it from running like that?
[10:16] <Durban> you know I just really cant find if my Asrock 939 dual motherboard is supported by any linux distros, I dunno what im doing weong
[10:16] <Durban> weong*
[10:16] <Durban> wrong*
[10:16] <UbuKen> Ubuntu is very impressive. Somehow I acquired a low impression of it from other users, but I like what I see. Very well thought-out!!
[10:16] <UbuKen> Durban, what kind of chipset does your mobo have ?
[10:17] <infectedfx> yes dabaR  its ok.. not another question I jkust realise there is more than one Enlightenment enviroment, like e16 or e17 how can I install the laters one? on synaptic?
[10:17] <Durban> let me find out for you, do you also need to know the onboard components, because i have to have those as well_?
[10:17] <infectedfx> another question
[10:17] <UbuKen> Durban, run the command lspci and see what shows up
[10:17] <Durban> im on windows right now
[10:18] <Durban> i have a very slow connection and dont want to spend the time downloading linux if ic ant use it
[10:18] <infectedfx> order the CD Durban
[10:18] <ompaul> Durban, shipit.ubuntu.com
[10:18] <Durban> im running the ULI M1695 for northbridge, and the ULI M1567 for southbridge, and using a realtek sound and lan card
[10:18] <Durban> will they ship to germany?
[10:18] <Fujitsu> Durban, anywhere!
[10:18] <thoreauputic> Durban: sure
[10:18] <Renski> Durban: ..
[10:18] <Durban> sweet
[10:19] <Renski> err
[10:19] <ompaul> Durban, is Germany on planet earth?
[10:19] <Renski> what ompaul said
[10:19] <Durban> will they ship to baghdad?
[10:19] <thoreauputic> Durban: My Cds came from Switzerland actually :)
[10:19] <Durban> sweet
[10:19] <Fujitsu> Durban, who knows.
[10:19] <Durban> lol
[10:19] <ompaul> Durban, if your there you can order
[10:19] <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, the same here.
[10:19] <Fujitsu> ompaul, you're, not your.
[10:19] <UbuKen> poor iraqis aren't allowed widespread Internet access anyways :(
[10:19] <thoreauputic> ompaul: hey, how are you mate ?
[10:19] <Fujitsu> UbuKen, true.
[10:19] <Renski> Speaking of which, I need to order some breezy packs
[10:20] <ompaul> alive and doing a bit o work
[10:20] <Durban> Thats Part of Americas "Fight against terrorism"
[10:20] <UbuKen> Well, we fight a lot of things, sometimes without even knowing it.
[10:20] <thoreauputic> ompaul: OK better than the opposite I guess :)
[10:20] <ubuntu_> dabaR, still here?
[10:21] <Renski> You mean "fight againist tyrants that won't follow our orders"?
[10:21] <Durban> I know, Im an American
[10:21] <Fujitsu> I will take that as a no...
[10:21] <ulinskie> help! I got this error when I am installing my libmms
[10:21] <ulinskie> checking for              glib-2.0... Package glib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[10:21] <brownie17> Durban, america is fucked
[10:21] <ulinskie> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `glib-2.0.pc'
[10:21] <ulinskie> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[10:21] <ulinskie> No package 'glib-2.0' found
[10:21] <ulinskie> configure: error: Library requirements (                  glib-2.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[10:21] <Fujitsu> Shall we perhaps stay away from such controversial topics, everybody?
[10:21] <Fujitsu> ulinskie, install glib-2.0-dev.
[10:21] <ompaul> ulinskie, paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting data
[10:21] <selvia> ghu
[10:21] <Renski> whoops, sorry
[10:21] <rjordan> GW is currently fighting 'all reason' by refusing to participate in the climate change talks.
[10:21] <Fujitsu> Or something along those lines.
[10:22] <Durban> Americas thign sine the 80#s has been basicly, sell them wepaons when there fighting someone we dont like, when their done, fight them because they have weapons (that we sold them )
[10:22] <ulinskie> Fsorry
[10:22] <ulinskie> Fujitsu: thanks
[10:22] <Renski> Fujitsu has point, this is a place to talk about why GW is an ape.
[10:22] <Renski> *isnt
[10:22] <rjordan> ubuken, where do you think you are #ubuntu?
[10:22] <Fujitsu> GW?
[10:22] <Renski> err
[10:23] <Renski> GB
[10:23] <Renski> sorry, using groupwise
[10:23] <Fujitsu> Renski, OK.
[10:23] <Fujitsu> Anybody have any issues that need solving?
[10:23] <Renski> My brain wired back to front, and upside down.
[10:23] <topyli> ulinskie: wouldn't it be easier just to apt-get install libmms in the first place?
[10:23] <topyli> ulinskie: the package seems to be libmms0
[10:23] <melonipoika> hi all, accidentally i changed the permissons to my whole home directory, and now when i start ubuntu i get an error message saying that the file $/HOME.dmrc doesn't have the right permissions and will be omited. I manually changed then to  have permissions 644, but i still get the same error. Is there any way to change the permissions to the default value?
[10:23] <adiabatic> I have an oldish computer that I'd like to have *an* OS on, but I might be giving it away; is it possible to go through the install without putting a password on the one account on the machine, and will this make it, er, easily owned, assuming I don't put an SSH server on it?
[10:24] <Renski> adiabatic: lol, yes
[10:24] <ulinskie> hey...is this a political channel?
[10:24] <ulinskie> I hate politics
[10:24] <adiabatic> Renski: Yes on both, or just one, and if "just one", which?
[10:24] <yatesy> adiabatic: its easy to change using passwd
[10:24] <ulinskie> topyli: did not find it when I did libmms0\
[10:25] <topyli> melonipoika: -rw-------  1 juha juha 24 2004-09-22 00:26 .dmrc
[10:25] <Renski> on the ssh thing, disable it if you have a weak password. I've never been daft enough to try to set a blank password
[10:25] <topyli> melonipoika: that's what i have
[10:25] <joedj> topyli: by draws the shadows i assume you mean locks up hard such that C-M-F1 and C-M-Backspace don't even work? ;-)
[10:25] <UbuKen> melonipoika, I have permissions 600 on my .dmrc , run "chmod 600 .dmrc" in your home directory
[10:25] <topyli> ulinskie: apt-get install libmms0
[10:25] <Renski> ssh isnt the only security risk
[10:25] <topyli> joedj: precisely ;-)
[10:25] <Fujitsu> Renski, all services are security risks!
[10:26] <melonipoika> ok, thanks...
[10:26] <Renski> by having a user password you prevent an attack from gaining access to root privs if he finds another way in
[10:26] <Renski> Fujitsu: exactly
[10:26] <ulinskie> topyli: it says "E: Couldn't find package libmms0
[10:26] <ulinskie> "
[10:26] <UbuKen> melonipoika, you may need to run "chmod -R 600 .dmrc" to set the perms on that entire tree
[10:26] <adiabatic> Well, what services does the default install run? An sshd ain't one of 'em...
[10:26] <melonipoika> i have now all the permissions in home 777, is this anyway dangerous?
[10:26] <melonipoika> (i'm the only user in this computer)
[10:26] <rob1> just do sudo -s
[10:27] <adiabatic> melonipoika: Bad hygiene, but...
[10:27] <Renski> melonipoika: its not smart, no. Just chmod 700 /home/user -R it, if you must
[10:27] <rob1> less typing ;)
[10:27] <Fujitsu> Or -s, yes.
[10:27] <topyli> ulinskie: well, it's in main so it definitely should be there. perhaps your apt configuration is b0rken
[10:27] <kyncani> melonipoika: 600 for files and 700 for directories is sufficient
[10:28] <melonipoika> ok, thanks
[10:28] <ubuntu_> dabaR, wb man..
[10:28] <ubuntu_> (sorry bout the man :P)
[10:29] <dabaR> its ok, depends on how you use it, too. and its ok anyhow.
[10:29] <Madpilot> oddball question - anyone here run their computer's audio into a stereo amp for better sound? any advice for someone considering it?
[10:29] <melonipoika> ah, i see now... but my problem is that i want to access my home directory from other disto and from windows, so with 700 i think i cannot read the files because i'm not the owner...
[10:29] <topyli> adiabatic: it runs no services visible to the internet
[10:29] <ubuntu_> dabaR, so ... did you get my msgs?
[10:30] <dabaR> ubuntu_: no, I never got a chance to read the answer to what command you ran.
[10:30] <topyli> melonipoika: you need to have identical UIDs on the distributions
[10:30] <UbuKen> melonipoika, if you can change your user-id in /etc/password, and chown the files, you could get by
[10:30] <ubuntu_> dabaR, i used System Monitor
[10:30] <melonipoika> ah
[10:30] <ubuntu_> dabaR, it keeps running!
[10:30] <dabaR> no, you used chmod sometyhing.
[10:31] <melonipoika> what is chown the files?
[10:31] <thefish> melonipoika: (ch)ange (own)er
[10:31] <UbuKen> melonipoika, it changes the numeric user ID for the file's owner
[10:31] <brownie17> melonipoika, change owner
[10:31] <thefish> heh
[10:31] <melonipoika> ah, thanks
[10:31] <ubuntu_> dabaR, oh chmod 777 /home i think
[10:31] <ubuntu_> something like that
[10:31] <topyli> NO!
[10:31] <ubuntu_> anyway i think he got in cause of the apache..
[10:31] <thefish> ^
[10:32] <joedj> topyli: nasty stuff =P
[10:32] <oggah> How to view uptime in Ubuntu
[10:32] <dabaR> ubuntu_: well, good work. you allowed every user on the computer complete access to all files, read, write/delete, and run. All files under /home.
[10:32] <Fujitsu> oggah, uptime.
[10:32] <oggah> k
[10:32] <Madpilot> oggah: in a terminal, type uptime or w
[10:32] <topyli> joedj: i don't know what's wrong. Worked For Me(TM)
[10:32] <ubuntu_> ok how can i undo it?
[10:32] <ubuntu_> and how can i fix it?
[10:33] <dabaR> ubuntu_: yes, even an apache user could do it. so it was likely that ranman retard. I would think.
[10:33] <finite0> my problem was actually unrelated to lvm or raid... it was a fiber channel PCI card that I wasn't even using that caused booting to hang. I didn't see this initially because of the "quit" parameter passed to the kernel by grub.
[10:33] <infectedfx> Hello again.. :)
[10:33] <ubuntu_> dabaR, yea i feel like it was him
[10:33] <joedj> topyli: it's the RenderAccel thing, guess they really aren't joking
[10:33] <Durban> Ok Ordered a 32 bit and a 64 bit cd, I hope that if the 64 bit doesnt work, I can get the 32 bit to work like with windows, but imnot sure
[10:33] <dabaR> ubuntu_: well,, first, chmod 755 instead of 777
[10:33] <fatehaze> why are all the system utilities in the menu if you can't run them as a user anyway?
[10:33] <Fujitsu> Durban, 32-bit will work on 64-bit.
[10:33] <infectedfx> ppl what is the diference between hoary and breezy?
[10:33] <fatehaze> and why ask for a password if it just silently quits afterwards?
[10:33] <finite0> why the card didn't bother the livecd or installer, i don't know
[10:33] <Durban> awsome thnx guys, best support chat ever
[10:33] <ubuntu_> dabaR, done
[10:33] <Fujitsu> fatehaze, that will be fixed in Dapper, I believe.
[10:33] <topyli> joedj: yeah. you need an old matrox card like i always buy :)
[10:33] <Madpilot> infectedfx: Breezy is the latest; Hoary is the previous stable release
[10:33] <Fujitsu> infectedfx, Breezy is the newer version.
[10:34] <joedj> topyli: my GeForce2 isn't that far from it... :)
[10:34] <dabaR> infectedfx: a search for "enlightenment" at the ubuntuforums finds many related articles, on installation, and setup, startup, modifications...
[10:34] <fatehaze> Fixed as in removed, or fixed as in allowing you to run programs as root?
[10:34] <Fujitsu> fatehaze, removed.
[10:34] <ubuntu_> dabaR, there is new files in the /home dir!
[10:34] <fatehaze> Gotcha, thanks
[10:34] <infectedfx> ok so I'm in hoary how can I change to breeze?? can I do it from the source.list?
[10:34] <ubuntu_> i didnt download those.. u think that guy did?
[10:34] <lonewolff> hey, has anyone had any sucess getting fglrx to work on 64bit breezy? I have been following a howto and now X wont starts saying no screens found
[10:34] <infectedfx> I found one dabaR but is for breeze
[10:34] <infectedfx> breezy
[10:35] <lonewolff> (i have an ATI Radeon X550)
[10:35] <Madpilot> !tell infectedfx about upgrade
[10:35] <dabaR> ubuntu_: ya, he was the one that suggested the 777 and you had some servers running(they also have users, more vulnerable to cracking)...
[10:35] <kyncani> infectedfx: upgrade to breezy following the wiki page written for that
[10:35] <infectedfx> ok thx Madpilot
[10:35] <dabaR> ubuntu_: I cant do much about what to do, see what specifically has been done, and so on.
[10:35] <Madpilot> infectedfx: np
[10:35] <infectedfx> but honestly.. horay or breezy or doesn't really matter?
[10:35] <fatehaze> is that new linux driver for airport extreme cards ready yet?
[10:35] <melonipoika> i have some more questions :D i have installed a wireless card using nsdiswrapper. It works well, but i have to activate it manually each time i start the system using kwifimanager, even though i checked the box to start automaticly at strat up... any idea?
[10:36] <topyli> ubuntu_: format your /home partition and restore your data from a known good backup
[10:36] <ubuntu_> topyli, i cant do that.. i dont have partition its one HD and plenty of important stuff on it.. isnt there any other way?
[10:36] <topyli> ubuntu_: if you think you're been cracked, you have to reinstall too
[10:37] <kyncani> infectedfx: breezy is the stable release now. If in doubt, use it.
[10:37] <infectedfx> ok thx kyncani
[10:37] <kyncani> np
[10:37] <ubuntu_> dabaR, the 766 chmod protects a little bit
[10:37] <ubuntu_> ?
[10:37] <UbuKen> Hoary... Hedgehog? Hamster?
[10:37] <sanjay> My backports (mirrormax) repository doen't seem to work. is it down? (im on hoary hedgehog)
[10:38] <dabaR> 755 766 still sucks.
[10:38] <XsXs> how do you figure out what version of ubuntu you have?
[10:38] <Fujitsu> Hedgehog...
[10:38] <Madpilot> sanjay: the mirrormax backports don't exist anymore
[10:38] <Fujitsu> XsXs System->About Ubuntu?
[10:38] <Fujitsu> No, actually.
[10:38] <XsXs> nope
[10:38] <XsXs> i looked there
[10:38] <sanjay> Mad: shux : ) - something else i can use to configure all my codecs, etc?
[10:38] <topyli> XsXs: cat /etc/lsb_release
[10:38] <Fujitsu>
[10:38] <thefish> ubuntu_: 766 will let others write to the files
[10:38] <ludos> can somebody tell me why the regular debian repositories dont work with ubuntu
[10:38] <thefish> ie delete
[10:38] <ubuntu_> dabaR, what can i do other than format??
[10:39] <Nikusan> XsXs, look where Fujitsu says, but look in "core components"
[10:39] <ubuntu_> I cant like.. um, like windows run an antivirus scan or smth i dont know!
[10:39] <tristan> Fujitsu : kanji wo yomu koto ga dekimasen
[10:39] <Fujitsu> I did _not_ change my input method, thankyou very much Uim...
[10:39] <dabaR> ubuntu_: back up your files til you learn how to take care for one. And what, is that vadimII still coming up?
[10:39] <Fujitsu> tristan, I know a little Japanese, but not much. I used to know more.
[10:39] <ubuntu_> dabaR, well it was.. now its not..
[10:39] <infectedfx> hey guys what is the commnad to check which version of ubuntu do I have if is the hoary or breezy?
[10:39] <sanjay> ubuntu_: have u tried fsck ?
[10:39] <dabaR> ubuntu_: well, good.
[10:39] <topyli> ubuntu_: you can try running chkrootkit and rkhunter. of course, you could run a virus scanner as well
[10:40] <ubuntu_> sanjay, whats fsck ?
[10:40] <tristan> Fujitsu : I know a little japanese. I try to learn more ^^
[10:40] <XsXs> thank you for the help
[10:40] <dabaR> sanjay: do you have a clue what the issue is?
[10:40] <ubuntu_> topyli i tried chkrootkit
[10:40] <thefish> hehaha
[10:40] <ubuntu_> gave some things
[10:40] <dabaR> XsXs: cat /etc/issue
[10:40] <Flubby> can anyone tell me the differenses with ubuntu and redhat?
[10:40] <XsXs> sanjay from genmay?
[10:40] <XsXs> :P
[10:40] <topyli> ubuntu_: anyway, since someone has gotten into your system, you should take it offline and reinstall
[10:40] <Fujitsu> tristan, Itry.
[10:40] <sanjay> no sorry daba, ill stay outt've it - just came for help with repositories : ) - na, from India ..
[10:40] <dabaR> topyli: just iinto /home
[10:40] <kyncani> Flubby: yes, distrowatch.com can
[10:40] <Fujitsu> Somebody has gotten in, ubuntu_?
[10:40] <ubuntu_> Fujitsu, yea i think so
[10:40] <tristan> Fujitsu : Nihon anime wo mimasu ka?
[10:40] <Fujitsu> ubuntu_, what has happened?
[10:41] <topyli> ubuntu_: if you think they didn't get to the system itself, it's just your data
[10:41] <Fujitsu> tristan,
[10:41] <ubuntu_> Fujitsu, vadimiII something i googled it sais ive been hacked
[10:41] <ubuntu_> topyli, but how can i know that
[10:41] <dabaR> sanjay: there are official backports, and codecs arent in backports anyhow, what codecs are you looking for specifically?
[10:41] <sanjay> well - mp3, divx, flac, the basics ... just installed system ..
[10:42] <dabaR> ubuntu_: did you only do sudo chmod 777 /home?
[10:42] <ubuntu_> whats that btw.. Checking `aliens'...
[10:42] <Fujitsu> flac is there, divx and mp3 are proprietary so not there by default.
[10:42] <ubuntu_> /dev/shm/.. /psybnc/nlm/psybnc/rk/bin.tgz /dev/shm/.. /psybnc/nlm/psybnc/rk.tar.gz
[10:42] <ubuntu_> dabaR, yeah only that.
[10:42] <topyli> ubuntu_: logs, modification times, dunno, it does seem like it's just your /home
[10:42] <ludos> can somebody tell me why the regular debian repositories dont work with ubuntu
[10:42] <Fujitsu> topyli, what is with his home?
[10:42] <dabaR> sanjay: visit the wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats page, it tells you what codecs you need for most formats. there is also w32codecs for quicktime, wmv...
[10:42] <dabaR> !w32codecs
[10:43] <dabaR> !+w32codecs
[10:43] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba to install
[10:43] <ludos> win32codecs
[10:43] <Fujitsu> ludos, I use my 14 CD Sarge set with Ubuntu with care, but they mostly work.
[10:43] <ubuntu_> topyli, its just that this command ./vadimII keeps running by itself.. thats about it
[10:43] <ubuntu_> and eats my CPU usage.
[10:43] <topyli> Fujitsu: he changed the permissions of /home to 777, and has found strange files in there
[10:43] <tristan> sanjay : dowload Esay Ubuntu : it will install all the codec you need, modify your deposits and so on...
[10:43] <sanjay> ok, thanks daba - was using ubuntuguide.org who's info is not updated ... just a note to ppl. who might be using it as well ...
[10:43] <Fujitsu> topyli, odd.
[10:43] <sanjay> tristan: that's Easy Ubuntu? from ... ?
[10:43] <Fujitsu> topyli, what services were running?
[10:44] <oggah> "sudo apt-get install vlc" the player has all the codecs you need builtin.
[10:44] <ludos> all the python packages are broken on the main one and it gives me errors about being unable to retrieve repository information
[10:44] <rob1> sanjay, try help.ubuntu.com instead
[10:44] <ludos> im still using 5.04
[10:44] <dabaR> ludos: short or long explanation?
[10:44] <ludos> long
[10:44] <topyli> Fujitsu: looks like someone's been there. a strange processs running
[10:44] <ubuntu_> dabaR, if it doesnt run again.. im safe right??
[10:44] <topyli> Fujitsu: that's why i recommended a reinstall
[10:44] <ludos>  definitely long
[10:45] <tristan> sanjay : http://placelibre.ath.cx/keyes/downloads/EasyUbuntu-2.4beta4.tar.bz2
[10:45] <Fujitsu> topyli, probably a good idea to reinstall. Must have been ssh or something.
[10:45] <dabaR> ludos: wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth search for binary compatibility, and read the whole thing, it is general knowledge.
[10:45] <tristan> sanjay : I used that to install my codec, modify my deposits and install the mplayer plug-ins for Mozilla
[10:45] <Fujitsu> topyli, have we checked for odd services that could be used to get in? By using netstat for example?
[10:46] <topyli> Fujitsu: no
[10:46] <dabaR> ubuntu_: you seem safe, but, I am not an expert on what can be done. but it seems you will be fine, if you did only what you said here.
[10:46] <cricek> guys I lost my original sources.list for my ubuntu 64 breezy ....I'M ON DIAL UP HELP !!!
[10:46] <ubuntu_> yup
[10:46] <dabaR> !+sources
[10:46] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:46] <ubuntu_> anyone knows where i can get a good firewall or more security ??
[10:46] <dabaR> ubuntu_: books.
[10:46] <topyli> heh
[10:46] <Flubby> Hi guys i want to instal ubuntu to my computer.. what do i haveto do when i have windows:( allready in it
[10:46] <ubuntu_> books?
[10:46] <dabaR> ubuntu_: heh, no, seriously, man chmod.
[10:47] <dabaR> read the online manual for chmod.
[10:47] <ubuntu_> ok
[10:47] <ubuntu_> :)
[10:47] <ubuntu_> thx
[10:47] <topyli> ubuntu_: just don't run services until you've set them up right. the permission thing can happen to anyone
[10:47] <topyli> ubuntu_: once :)
[10:47] <cricek> I need only cdrom link to install office
[10:47] <Fujitsu> Flubby, the installation will resize partitions for you, if necessary. You don't have to do anything.
[10:47] <Flubby> :)
[10:47] <ubuntu_> topyli, okay man, thanks.
[10:47] <dabaR> cricek: you want to add the cdrom to the sources.list file?
[10:48] <Flubby> so i just put the cd in :)
[10:48] <cricek> yea
[10:48] <dabaR> Flubby: you have to select that option.
[10:48] <Fujitsu> topyli, once is correct. Most things only happen once, that rm -rf .* as root, to remove some . files from /root. That was a bad day, although a good few years ago!
[10:48] <cricek> but sources for original cdrom packages
[10:48] <topyli> ubuntu_: you can test run services locally if you set up a firewall. firestarter is a nice one for that
[10:48] <dabaR> Flubby: dont forget to do that. and it is always a good idea to back up data, you never know.
[10:48] <Fujitsu> Flubby, you have to select the option, yes.
[10:48] <ludos> wow this is aggravating
[10:48] <Fujitsu> ludos, what?
[10:49] <dabaR> cricek: man apt-cdrom
[10:49] <topyli> Fujitsu: i also typed rm -rf * into the wrong terminal once. deleted my home
[10:49] <ubuntu_> okay bro
[10:49] <oggah> what do you prefer, xmms or beep-media-player ?
[10:49] <cricek> dabaR, tnx
[10:49] <Fujitsu> topyli, I deleted the entire filesystem...
[10:49] <dabaR> oggah: we dont really prefer polls here.
[10:49] <ludos> nothing,,, im probly way too tired and just not thinking correctly, but i need to upgrade all the packages.. but... i can't get the ones i want.
[10:49] <topyli> Fujitsu: cleanup day! =)
[10:49] <UbuKen> Fujitsu, please stop. You are bringing up repressed memories!
[10:49] <Fujitsu> Well, most of it. I realised what was happening, and stopped it after a number of gigabytes were gone...
[10:49] <Flubby> how do i then determine at the star wich i want to start windows or ubuntu
[10:49] <Fujitsu> UbuKen, hehe.
[10:50] <dabaR> ludos: have all the proper ubuntu repos enabled?
[10:50] <Fujitsu> Flubby, a menu will appear.
[10:50] <Fujitsu> You can then select which you wish to boot.
[10:50] <Flubby> oh this is a smart program
[10:50] <ludos> well i thought the regular ones would work, but they aren't... so i guess i'll have to find others...gentoo was so much easier
[10:50] <Fujitsu> Flubby, it is designed to be as easy to use as possible. It is designed to Just Work(tm).
[10:51] <Fujitsu> ludos, don't defect, please!
[10:51] <dabaR> ludos: for what you need to do, I guess.
[10:51] <tristan> sanjay : did Esay Ubuntu solved your problem?
[10:51] <dabaR> Flubby: it is a large collection, a distribution, of smart programs.
[10:52] <UbuKen> :)
[10:52] <ludos> defect... i was using gentoo before.. then like i always do.. i screwed it up... so I had to reinstall and this was quicker b/c of school
[10:52] <Fujitsu> dabaR, most of them are smart, although some (ie disks-admin) are dumb...
[10:52] <Fujitsu> ludos, ahh.
[10:52] <UbuKen> hej gustav_!
[10:53] <gustav_> hej UbuKen!
[10:53] <ludos> i just want my original setup to work with ubuntu... so i want amarok, enlightenment, mp3's to play, all that stuff.... but apt isn't listening to me
[10:53] <dabaR> ludos: what is it saying?
[10:53] <some_dude> is ubuntu debain based or what ?
[10:53] <Fujitsu> some_dude, yes.
[10:53] <dabaR> ubotu: tell ludos about mp3
[10:54] <some_dude> so i can use the debian packaages, and add the debian ftp to the apt list ?
[10:54] <UbuKen> if ubuntu is debian based, how come I have a kernel made within the past two years ?
[10:54] <Fujitsu> ludos, amarok, enlightenment and mp3 are in the repositories.
[10:54] <Fujitsu> UbuKen, heh
[10:54] <Fujitsu> some_dude, inadvisable.
[10:54] <some_dude> why ?
[10:54] <dabaR> some_dude: no.
[10:54] <dabaR> can someone repaste the URL I gave to ludos ?
[10:55] <Fujitsu> some_dude, there are compatibility issues, I am not sure of the details. THey often stuff up.
[10:55] <dabaR> I dont have copy paste here.
[10:55] <kyncani> some_dude: because they have been compiled with ubuntu's versions, not debian's version
[10:55] <Fujitsu> dabaR, ubotu told him, not us!
[10:55] <sanjay> was just trying to update repositories -- tristan- can u give me cmd line for Esay Ubuntu install ?
[10:55] <some_dude> i did not see a rdesktop for ubuntu
[10:55] <ludos> which repositories?
[10:56] <Fujitsu> some_dude, there is one build in. Not rdesktop, though.
[10:56] <Fujitsu> Application->Internet->Terminal Service Client.
[10:56] <dabaR> Fujitsu: I told him about the wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth page which talks about why and how come the ubuntu and debian packages often differ.
[10:56] <Fujitsu> Oh.
[10:56] <cricek> dabaR, tnx I guess I'ts working
[10:56] <dabaR> cricek: what is?
[10:56] <kyncani> some_dude: rdesktop is in breezy/main. Where were you looking ?
[10:56] <cricek> apt-cdrom
[10:56] <dabaR> cricek: good work.
[10:57] <cricek> heh just .....I have some problems runing this updates on dial-up
[10:57] <cricek> anyone knows if there is
[10:57] <cricek> some kind of CD update site
[10:58] <cricek> where I could get iso for updates ?
[10:58] <dabaR> ludos, do you run hoary or breezy?
[10:58] <kyncani> cricek: where you could download iso for updates ? ;)
[10:58] <dabaR> cricek: an iso for the system security and such updates?
[10:58] <cricek> yeah
[10:58] <melonipoika> has anyone installed kiax in ubuntu?
[10:58] <cricek> exactly
[10:58] <dabaR> cricek: those usually come through apt-get.
[10:59] <some_dude> is there a netinstall for ubuntu, and is kunbunt the same just with kde, i mean do the have the same package site?
[10:59] <dabaR> I have not once heard of a cd for them.
[10:59] <kyncani> cricek: what would be different from downloading through apt-get ?
[10:59] <cricek> Exactly
[10:59] <dabaR> some_dude: yes, they have same repositories.
[10:59] <cricek> well ....I have to move my machine to my friend
[10:59] <topyli> dabaR: there's no such cd. you could download everything under breeyzy-upates and breezy-security and make a local repository
[10:59] <dabaR> some_dude: and yes, the difference is all the kde programs, vs the gnome programs.
[11:00] <some_dude> so who wins ? gnome or kde ?
[11:00] <dabaR> its not a contest
[11:00] <tristan> sanjay : just extract the archive and double click on the EasyUbuntu inside the Easy Ubuntu directory
[11:00] <kyncani> cricek: so ?
[11:00] <cricek> Ok maybe I'll start making this local repos
[11:00] <Fujitsu> Gnome, in my opinion, but they are not competitive.
[11:00] <frogz00> some_dude: no one wins - it's like meat or fish?
[11:00] <Fujitsu> frogz00, perhaps.
[11:00] <some_dude> meat for sure
[11:00] <ndlovu> I'm struggling to set up samba - any idea why there's no "Windows Networking" section in my network configuration?
[11:01] <frogz00> some_dude: cool - more fish for me
[11:01] <some_dude> ndlovu just edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[11:01] <ndlovu> some_dude: where would I set my netbios name in smb.conf
[11:01] <ndlovu> ?
[11:01] <dabaR> ndlovu: looked at the wiki for samba and smbfs?
[11:01] <topyli> ndlovu: that wouldn't be "struggling", now would it ;-)
[11:01] <cricek> Ok guys tny
[11:01] <cricek> tnx
[11:01] <dabaR> ok
[11:02] <ubuntu_> ok sorry guys
[11:02] <ubuntu_> back
[11:02] <some_dude> ndlovu google a samba 2.x config, they have the netbios name
[11:02] <ubuntu_> :/
[11:02] <Fujitsu> ubuntu_, how goes?
[11:02] <ubuntu_> dabaR, Could not connect to the database server.
[11:02] <ubuntu_>  <- i was installing a client on apache
[11:02] <bob_> hello eveyrbody
[11:02] <ubuntu_> Fujitsu, its all good :)
[11:02] <ndlovu> dabaR: I've checked, but according to the wiki, I should have networking options available that I don't see
[11:02] <bob_> hi
[11:03] <some_dude> ndlovu if you have swat, you can http://localhost:901, but i use vim on the file
[11:03] <bob_> thank you
[11:03] <bob_> i see
[11:03] <ludos> ok how about mplayer...
[11:04] <some_dude> ndlovu i think the netbios name is my default the host name, but you can change it, it's like name=bob
[11:04] <ludos> hmm
[11:04] <topyli> some_dude: it's terrible when you have to look at people's smb.confs after swat has messed around there
[11:04] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell ludos about mplayer
[11:04] <Fujitsu> topyli, I never liked SWAT at all either.
[11:04] <bob_> mplayer is good
[11:04] <some_dude> topyli: swat is sick
[11:04] <bob_> i love mplayer
[11:05] <Fujitsu> mplayer is very good.
[11:05] <oggah> vlc is the shit :)
[11:05] <bob_> yes
[11:06] <ludos> right now im runing hoary
[11:06] <dabaR> it has mplayer
[11:06] <ndlovu> some_dude: thanks, "name = bob" did the trick!
[11:06] <[Jonne] > how do i find out my user's UID?
[11:08] <topyli> [Jonne] : from /etc/passwd
[11:08] <[Jonne] > tnx
[11:08] <Fujitsu> topyli, id will do it!
[11:08] <[Jonne] > was looking in /etc/shadow ... <sighs>
[11:09] <UbuKen> grep `whoami` /etc/passwd | awk -F : '{print $3}' ??
[11:09] <Fujitsu> [Jonne] , you can type 'id' in a console.
[11:09] <topyli> Fujitsu: live and learn! :)
[11:09] <dabaR> id is already there as a program.
[11:09] <UbuKen> ah, thanks Fuji !!
[11:09] <dabaR> live and clog up the space!
[11:09] <ludos> what is 3d desktop?
[11:09] <Fujitsu> Always here for advice, I am.
[11:09] <topyli> heh
[11:09] <Fujitsu> Live, give people advice on Ubuntu, die. Such is life.
[11:09] <dookie> so i've installed the fglrx, but my computer still stalls while trying to boot up ubuntu, it always stops on "starting hotplug subsystem"
[11:09] <[Jonne] > you could've also said it's probably 1000 ;)
[11:10] <dabaR> true
[11:10] <Madpilot> Fujitsu: very deep :P
[11:10] <some_dude> Fujitsu you need advice, don't lick frozen flag poles
[11:10] <_dvm_> hi, can someone help me with a non-repository firefox 1.5 installation and a signed java applet of mine?
[11:10] <BockBilbo> helll
[11:10] <BockBilbo> hello
[11:11] <Fujitsu> BockBilbo, hi.
[11:11] <Fujitsu> [Jonne] , true.
[11:11] <LoPMX> hi
[11:11] <Fujitsu> LoPMX, hi.
[11:11] <LoPMX> what is the name of synaptic manager package?
[11:11] <dookie> i mean it always gets stuck on "starting hotplug subsystem" when i try to get my ati card, whenever i go in using integrated video it just skips that step and says ok to everything else
[11:11] <Fujitsu> LoPMX... synaptic?
[11:11] <LoPMX> i made a server install and would like to add it
[11:11] <_dvm_> The applet needs to install a couple of optional packages (jar files).  I was always a Blackbox person for low resource usage...
[11:13] <LoPMX> anyways, so you know the name of a program for setting font rendering?
[11:13] <ludos> ok well im out... i need sleep.. i'll figur this out in the morning
[11:13] <Madpilot> LoPMX: OK, just thought I'd check! ;)
[11:13] <LoPMX> Fujitsu:  yeah, but xfce is like best of quality and small size
[11:13] <topyli> Fujitsu: X clients may not necessarily depend on a working X. there's remote X too :)
[11:13] <adiabatty> I'm planning on installing on a 500 MHz machine...will my system seem noticeably zippier if I use xfce instead of gnome?
[11:14] <dabaR> LoPMX: you use aptitude for installation at the moment?
[11:14] <LoPMX> dabaR: nope, aptget
[11:14] <Fujitsu> adiabatty, probably.
[11:14] <dabaR> LoPMX: just type apt-cache search synaptic and it will tell you.
[11:14] <LoPMX> oh
[11:14] <LoPMX> cool
[11:15] <Fujitsu> Haha. Another Australian!
[11:15] <LoPMX> so, you know the program name which exists in default ubuntu installation for setting font rendering?
[11:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Fujitsu
[11:16] <LoPMX> you know, i wanna make em os-x like ;P
[11:16] <dabaR> adiabatty: it is more dependent on RAM, and yes, xfce is lighter than gnome.
[11:16] <Fujitsu> Kamping_Kaiser, hi.
[11:17] <Fujitsu> dabaR, I think lighter is a bit of an understatement! Lighter than air compared to Gnome is better, I think.
[11:17] <topyli> adiabatty: how much RAM do you have?
[11:17] <Blaamann> How do I reconfigure X from a terminal (X crashed while updating my system to breezy) ?
[11:18] <adiabatty> 130 MB? That doesn't sound right, does it?
[11:18] <topyli> Blaamann: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:18] <dabaR> not quite. is that what your windows tells you?
[11:18] <topyli> adiabatty: it does sound a bit strange
[11:18] <Fujitsu> adiabatty, 128, I would assume. In that case, xfce is much better.
[11:18] <adiabatty> P3 450, 128 MB RAM.
[11:19] <adiabatty> Final answer.
[11:19] <topyli> heh
[11:19] <Blaamann> topyli: Thanks
[11:19] <Fujitsu> adiabatty, XFCE, definitely.
[11:19] <adiabatty> server install and then install X later, or...?
[11:19] <topyli> adiabatty: gnome will be painful
[11:19] <adiabatty> gnome was sluggish.
[11:19] <ctd> or was sluggish a gnome?
[11:19] <topyli> adiabatty: yeah, server install, then install xubuntu-desktop
[11:20] <frogz00> no gnome slugging here kids - pls play nice
[11:20] <adiabatty> topyli: thanks
[11:20] <dabaR> adiabatty: it will be much faster with xfce(xfce4 is the package) install the server version, then install the xubuntu-desktop after enabling universe(if you are capable of that) I would even consider something like openbox(which I use anyhow on a p4 512 RAM, which is further lightweight.
[11:20] <adiabatty> frogz00: What about darting gnomes to make them sluggish?
[11:21] <Fujitsu> adiabatty, good idea!
[11:21] <yatesy> laff
[11:22] <LoPMX> argh!
[11:22] <topyli> the gnome hits! you are zapped!
[11:23] <brownie17> kde is harder to get used to, but it is better
[11:23] <rowanjl> I'm trying to build an apache2 module, but I have no idea what to point --with-apache-dir=* at, anyone know?
[11:23] <dookie> installed ubuntu this morning and all day it hangs on boot when it gets to "starting hotplug subsystems" at first i thought it was my video card, but all the drivers are up to date so i have no clue. any ideas?
[11:23] <[Jonne] > I have a small question regarding fstab:
[11:23] <frogz00> rowanjl: dunno, /var/www ?
[11:23] <[Jonne] > the following line should mount the pertition with me as owner, right? :
[11:23] <[Jonne] > /dev/sda3		/home/jonne/sda3	vfat			iocharset=utf8,uid=gid=1000,user,umask=000		0	0
[11:24] <dabaR> rowanjl: did you ask this at #apache?
[11:24] <Glossary> why cant i connect to mysql ?
[11:24] <[Jonne] > *partition
[11:24] <Madpilot> Glossary: try sudo mysql
[11:24] <[Jonne] > it doesn't seem to work, it still shows root as owner
[11:24] <frogz00> [Jonne] : mount -a     ?
[11:24] <topyli> [Jonne] : the uid and gid options seem strange. try just uid=1000
[11:25] <adiabatty> "enable universe"...what's in the universe that isn't in the usual sources?
[11:25] <[Jonne] > yes, I do that every time I change the file
[11:25] <rowanjl> dabaR, nope :/
[11:25] <[Jonne] > tried uid=1000, didn't work
[11:25] <Fujitsu> Erm, umask=000?
[11:25] <yatesy> adiabatty: thousands of packages
[11:25] <thoreauputic> adiabatty: about 15 000 packages
[11:25] <Fujitsu> That give no permissions to anybody.
[11:25] <dabaR> Glossary: you should ask at #mysql if you had installed it.
[11:25] <Fujitsu> 15000 packages, yes.
[11:25] <dabaR> rowanjl: feel free to do so if you dont get an answer here
[11:25] <adiabatty> But why are those packages, er, out there and not in the default list?
[11:25] <frogz00> [Jonne] : uid=1000,gid=1000    ?
[11:26] <_max_> does Kubuntu have any tool for using multiple monitors?
[11:26] <_max_> trying to get 3 monitors working =/
[11:26] <thoreauputic> adiabatty: because Canonical can't support all of them
[11:26] <Fujitsu> That is what the MOTU is for...
[11:26] <Fujitsu> *are
[11:26] <thoreauputic> adiabatty: "main" is all supported
[11:26] <yatesy> _max_: use X
[11:26] <_max_> yatsey: i am using x ;p was wondering if there was any gui tool.
[11:26] <[Jonne] > frogz00, the uid=gid=1000 is just a short notation i found in a manpage, or some website
[11:27] <[Jonne] > i tried the long notation, which doesn't change anything
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu:  "main" is singular, old chap
[11:27] <dabaR> [Jonne] : the umask is usually 4 digits, afaik.
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: if you want to be pedantic be accurate :)
[11:27] <thoreauputic> ah you meant the MOTU ?
[11:27] <LoPMX> argh, anyone using gnome here?
[11:27] <topyli> Fujitsu: MOTU is plural
[11:27] <topyli> thoreauputic: ^
[11:27] <topyli> sorry Fujitsu
[11:27] <thoreauputic> topyli: right - I stand corrected :)
[11:28] <Fujitsu> Heh
[11:28] <gustav_> LoPMX: most of us I would think
[11:28] <adiabatty> Is LVM a default setting for servers only, or both servers and the default install?
[11:28] <Fujitsu> gustav_, most, yes.
[11:28] <dabaR> haha
[11:28] <Fujitsu> adiabatty, if you choose it, yes, if not, no!
[11:28] <topyli> heh
[11:28] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: my apologies - one too many beers :)
[11:28] <LoPMX> gustav_: so could u pls check the name of a program for font rendering settings?
[11:28] <[Jonne] > seperated uid & gid, and used an umask with 4 0's, didn't help
[11:28] <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, Heh.
[11:28] <LoPMX> i'd like to install it
[11:29] <Fujitsu> [Jonne] , 4 0s gives no permissions!
[11:29] <rowanjl> Asking for help in #apache is like waiting for it to rain -- in space.
[11:29] <Fujitsu> rowanjl, probably.
[11:29] <dabaR> Fujitsu: in chmod, in umask it gives no restrictions.
[11:29] <topyli> LoPMX: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. or at least gnome-desktop-environment
[11:29] <Fujitsu> dabaR, oops.
[11:29] <[Jonne] > well, what should i use then?
[11:29] <dabaR> rowanjl: you are just used to us.
[11:29] <LoPMX> nah, i don't wanna gnome
[11:29] <adiabatty> Fujitsu: Well, I opted for the server install, and I was guided toward LVM--I wondered if I'd have been guided to it if I were to opt for a default install
[11:30] <Fujitsu> adiabatty, I can't remember now.
[11:30] <rowanjl> dabaR, yeah :P
[11:30] <gustav_> LoPMX: sorry don't know
[11:31] <rowanjl> Still its better than #php: Ask a question and get 20 people telling you that you're an idiot, why are you doing it that way! and then not offer and help at all
[11:31] <LoPMX> gustav_: try Settings -> Font
[11:32] <gustav_> LoPMX: I know but it doesn't say the name of the program
[11:32] <adiabatty> (reading the Wikipedia article) So LVM lets me, say, shrink / and splice in a, er, slice to mount /home on?
[11:32] <LoPMX> try maybe processes?
[11:32] <Fujitsu> adiabatty, along with other cool stuff, yes.
[11:32] <adiabatty> Neato.
[11:33] <frogz00> [Jonne] : uid=gid=1000 is NOT legal syntax for vfat - use uid=1000,gid=1000
[11:33] <[Jonne] > well, I already did that, but it didn't change a thing
[11:33] <gustav_> LoPMX: gnome-font-properties :)
[11:34] <LoPMX> fuck
[11:34] <frogz00> [Jonne] : this works for me "/dev/hda7       /work           vfat    uid=1000,gid=1000,user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 "
[11:34] <LoPMX> so it is probably only gnome stuff?
[11:34] <LoPMX> or gtk generally?
[11:34] <Fujitsu> LoPMX, language please.
[11:34] <rowanjl> Ok, so anyone know what package the apache related bin file 'apu-config' is in?
[11:34] <rowanjl> The module wants that too
[11:34] <LoPMX> sorry
[11:34] <[Jonne] > you don't have the iocharset thing?
[11:35] <frogz00> [Jonne] : I didn't retype that ;)
[11:35] <dabaR> rowanjl: did you install the apache2-dev package yet?
[11:35] <rowanjl> dabaR, yep
[11:35] <rowanjl> Thats the first thing I did
[11:36] <dabaR> is there /usr/local/src/apache2 in your system? or do you know where apache sources were put?
[11:36] <rowanjl> dabaR, that dir is missing :/
[11:36] <Enquest> is there a clipboard programe for gnome?
[11:36] <[Jonne] > meh, i think i fixed it
[11:37] <frogz00> cool
[11:37] <Fujitsu> Good, [Jonne] .
[11:37] <Enquest> Something lik klipper in KDE
[11:37] <[Jonne] > mount -a wasn't enough, apparently, I had to umount sda3 first
[11:37] <[Jonne] > does that make sense?
[11:37] <brosiooz> hi where can i found iso of dapper ?
[11:37] <[Jonne] > brosiooz, i don't think that exists yet
[11:38] <dabaR> libapr0-dev has it, rowanjl that apu-config. find where the apache sources were installed.
[11:38] <brosiooz> exists only repository ?
[11:38] <brosiooz> so if i want to use dapper
[11:38] <Fujitsu> brosiooz, why do you want Dapper?
[11:38] <[Jonne] > you have to install breezy, then change your sources.list to include dapper
[11:38] <crimsun> brosiooz: Flight 1: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2005-November/000009.html
[11:38] <brosiooz> Fujitsu more recents packages
[11:38] <[Jonne] > once it updated to dapper, you'll wonder why it's completely broken
[11:38] <[Jonne] > that is normal
[11:39] <frogz00> [Jonne] : sure - you can't have /dev/sda3 mounted twice
[11:39] <crimsun> brosiooz: I will warn you as someone involved in the development process that Dapper is EXTREMELY fragile at the moment. It won't boot on a lot of hardware.
[11:39] <[Jonne] > well, i thought mount -a just unmounted everything, then mounted it again or something
[11:39] <brosiooz> dapper is like debian(unstable) ?
[11:39] <[Jonne] > oh well, learned a little more
[11:39] <crimsun> brosiooz: no, we break it a lot more.
[11:39] <[Jonne] > no, dapper is like windows
[11:39] <topyli> brosiooz: it's more like experimental
[11:40] <frogz00> [Jonne] : nope - mount -a compares mtab to fstab, and mounts anything not already mounted
[11:40] <topyli> [Jonne] : :D
[11:40] <[Jonne] > ok
[11:40] <[Jonne] > tnx
[11:40] <frogz00> yw :)
[11:40] <brosiooz> topyli more ??? but some packages are more old than unstable i see .\
[11:40] <crimsun> old != bad
[11:40] <crimsun> besides, we still have about 170 packages to finish merging
[11:41] <topyli> brosiooz: yeah. it's not a complete sync. i can still guarantee it will break from time to time
[11:41] <dabaR> brosiooz: wwell, for there to be development on a system of a bunch of packages, not all packages have to be constantly developed.
[11:41] <frogz00> old = more known bugs / new = more unknown bugs :D
[11:41] <rowanjl> dabaR, ok, thats installed thanks
[11:42] <topyli> brosiooz: just use breezy, build your own packages from dapper and debian sources for those packages you really need to upgrade
[11:42] <ndee> hey there, I'm playing again around with the Live CD and somehow, I managed to get SPDIF-out working yesterday but I don't remember where I set that setting.
[11:47] <poningru> nothing
[11:47] <adiabatty> Just that, eh?
[11:47] <poningru> dont mind me
[11:47] <gustav_> adiabatty: or apt get dist-upgrade
[11:47] <adiabatty> What's the difference?
[11:47] <gustav_> *apt-get
[11:48] <Nikusan> I've downloaded and extracted azureus, but I don't want to leave it in my home folder. Where should I put it? /usr/share? /usr/bin?
[11:48] <testmach1ne> apt-get is the future
[11:48] <dragoon> hey guys
[11:48] <dabaR> testmach1ne: in fact, the user front end is aptitude
[11:48] <gustav_> adiabatty: just upgrade won't install new or remove old packages
[11:48] <testmach1ne> dabaR: yes i know
[11:48] <dabaR> Nikusan: /usr/local/bin maybe
[11:48] <dabaR> testmach1ne: so why spread lies?
[11:48] <adiabatty> I'll go with dist-upgrade, then.
[11:49] <testmach1ne> dabaR: what was a lie?
[11:49] <Nikusan> dabaR: sure, why not :)
[11:49] <testmach1ne> dabaR: i just said that the command apt-get the future is
[11:49] <testmach1ne> thats not a lie
[11:49] <dabaR> aptitude is newer, and a user front end replacement for apt-get
[11:50] <testmach1ne> blerghh
[11:50] <testmach1ne> i dont like front ends
[11:50] <testmach1ne> just use commands
[11:50] <testmach1ne> commands
[11:50] <testmach1ne> commands
[11:50] <dabaR> it is a command
[11:50] <testmach1ne> dabaR: then go use synaptic
[11:50] <gustav_> adiabatty: They usually do the same, just be sure to check which packages that will be removed so that notheing important is removed (that should not happen unless you are on Dapper maybe)
[11:50] <dabaR> and what you like != future by some law.
[11:50] <wam> Where does the ubuntu-distribution come from? Who developed it first? Was it "Canonical Ltd." from the Isle of Men?
[11:50] <adiabatty> And dapper's some bleeding-edge something-or-other?
[11:51] <testmach1ne> i tried dapper sunday
[11:51] <testmach1ne> i think
[11:51] <testmach1ne> but it was verry buggy
[11:51] <dabaR> wma: wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[11:51] <testmach1ne> my gnome was like<PHONE_NUMBER>0000 colors
[11:51] <testmach1ne> and i didnt see really anything anymore
[11:51] <theonetwo> I am utterdapper is not ready for anything useful except self developement
[11:51] <theonetwo> and trying of patients
[11:51] <gustav_> adiabatty: it's the development version that will be released in april
[11:52] <frogz00> dabaR: have you tried just ./configure without setting --with-apache ?
[11:52] <dabaR> frogz00: ask rowanjl please
[11:52] <testmach1ne> breezy is new enough adiabatty
[11:52] <[Jonne] > i ran dapper for a while. the only visible change was firefox deer park, instead of 1.0.7
[11:52] <frogz00> rowanjl: have you tried just ./configure without setting --with-apache ?
[11:52] <brosiooz> dapper has security update or not ?
[11:52] <adiabatty> testmach1ne: heh, almost certainly, especially for this clunker
[11:53] <[Jonne] > xorg 7 probably is important too, but i didn't notice anything different about it
[11:53] <julo> hi
[11:53] <[Jonne] > but i gave up when it hosed my system 3 times in a row
[11:53] <rowanjl> frogz00, yeah, that works now that I've managed to install the correct packages :P
[11:53] <julo> Is it possible to synchronise the clock with a time server on the command line ?
[11:53] <SWAT_work> how can I calculate the power usage of my pc? I want to buy a new graphics card, but maybe then my power supply could be too weak.
[11:53] <frogz00> cool
[11:53] <rowanjl> now it only fails on make
[11:53] <testmach1ne> julo: yes that is possible
[11:53] <rowanjl> utility.h:37:20: error: ap_mpm.h: No such file or directory
[11:54] <rowanjl> make[2] : *** [apache_core.lo]  Error 1
[11:54] <sanjay> it gives me error W: Couldn't stat source package list when i try to apt-get update (after installing most repositories) -- can someone help me with this ?
[11:54] <rowanjl> Yay for user understandable make errors
[11:54] <frogz00> SWAT_work: u want a clamp meter methinks
[11:54] <julo> testmach1ne: any idea how to dit it ? :)
[11:54] <Seveas> SWAT_work, how powerful is your power supply?
[11:54] <Seveas> sanjay, put the complete output on the pastebin
[11:54] <testmach1ne> with ntpdate
[11:54] <testmach1ne> maybe?
[11:54] <Seveas> yuo
[11:54] <SWAT_work> Seveas, hi. 400 Watt, 4x512RAM, 3500+AMD64, 4HD's, 2 DVDdrives etc.
[11:55] <Seveas> julo, sudo invoke-rc.d ntpdate start
[11:55] <sanjay> Seveas: url for pastebin, pls ..
[11:55] <Seveas> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:55] <gustav_> julo: sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[11:55] <brosiooz> dapper has security update or not ?
[11:55] <julo> Seveas, testmach1ne : thanks, that did the trick
[11:55] <Seveas> SWAT_work, that'll be a bit tricky
[11:55] <julo> gustav_: thanks too :)
[11:56] <frogz00> SWAT_work: in "theory" you should be ok - but a lot depends on the ps brand
[11:56] <Madpilot> SWAT_work: there are websites that'll at least provide you with an estimate of power usage, if you plug your components in - check Google,
[11:56] <dabaR> rowanjl: you installed apache2-threaded-dev?
[11:57] <SWAT_work> frogz00, Zalman
[11:57] <rowanjl> dabaR, yep
[11:57] <poningru> SWAT_work: yeah dude I would say upgrade atleast to 500 W if not more
[11:57] <rowanjl> but the developer just told me it needs prefork-dev :)
[11:57] <poningru> SWAT_work: all those HDs and all that ram
[11:57] <brosiooz> pff why openoffice2 isn't on repository!!!
[11:57] <sanjay> Seveas: posted .. (i editted my sources.list file as well - i probably messed up something there or some repositories not working -- but i cant figure out which... lemme know if u want me to paste stuff from sources.list)
[11:58] <poningru> brosiooz: it hasnt been backported yet
[11:58] <adiabatty> If I installed server and wanted to install the usual (sluggish for me) GNOME desktop, what would I apt-get install?
[11:58] <SWAT_work> poningru, hmmmm. I thought something like that. Dammit :-/
[11:58] <theonetwo> openoffice2 is backported isn't it?
[11:58] <poningru> adiabatty: ubuntu-desktop
[11:58] <adiabatty> thanks
[11:58] <Seveas> sanjay, that's not the complete output
[11:58] <poningru> theonetwo: could have sworn it hasnt
[11:58] <frogz00> SWAT_work: http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/
[11:58] <poningru> but could be wrong
[11:58] <Seveas> sanjay, apt-get update spits out much more
[11:58] <sanjay> Seveas: ya, thats just the errors ...
[11:59] <Seveas> sanjay, the complete output please
[11:59] <sanjay> is ok if huge? ill paste the entire ... just a sec ...
[11:59] <dabaR> sanjay: also, if you can by the way post the output of cat /etc/issue
[11:59] <contradictoryben> how do i get the ability to scroll (e.g. with shift + page up ) at the terminal (note not the Xterm or Gnome Terminal or whatever)?
[12:00] <theonetwo> what repostory are you looking at?
[12:00] <rowanjl> no good without the --with-apache-dir, but I still don't know where to point it (#apache is silent)
[12:00] <SWAT_work> frogz00, thanks :)
[12:00] <dabaR> contradictoryben: but the console terminal, like, alt+ctrl+f1?
[12:00] <contradictoryben> dabaR: that's the one
[12:02] <frogz00> contradictoryben: dunno if ubuntu enables the screen buffer by default - might have to turn it on first
[12:02] <sanjay> daba, Seveas: done both ...
[12:02] <adiabatty> What file do I need to edit to tell apt-get not to search the CD-ROM drives for installables?
[12:02] <contradictoryben> frogz00: how would i do that?
[12:02] <frogz00> contradictoryben: yes, good question
[12:02] <Xenguy> adiabatty: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:02] <adiabatty> thanks
[12:03] <poningru> adiabatty: dude you could have just asked me in #bs or something :)
[12:03] <Seveas> sanjay, looks like your sources.list contains a few errors, could you paste that file on the bin please
[12:03] <sanjay> Seveas: sure..
[12:04] <frogz00> contradictoryben: shift +pgup & you're good to go
[12:05] <dabaR> contradictoryben: itis on by default. shift+pgup does not work? this is just in normal console use, not in screen, or irssi?
[12:05] <rowanjl> Well, if anyone can tell me where --with-apache-dir attribute should point when building a module, let me know.
[12:05] <rowanjl> Even random guesses are welcome :/
[12:05] <contradictoryben> shift + pg up isn't working for me
[12:05] <contradictoryben> dabaR: yeah this is the standard login console
[12:05] <frogz00> contradictoryben: do you have more than one screenful is the question?
[12:06] <dabaR> heh
[12:06] <contradictoryben> frogz00: if you mean, is there text to be scrolled, then yes
[12:06] <Seveas> sanjay, hmm, that sources.list looks ok
[12:06] <frogz00> contradictoryben: oh i c - doesn't look like the console has a buffer - just terminal sessions by default
[12:07] <contradictoryben> that's what i thought - is there a way to give the console a buffer though?
[12:07] <kyncani> contradictoryben: yes, use "screen"
[12:07] <Seveas> sanjay, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*{P,S,R}*
[12:07] <sanjay> Seveas: i had messed with it earlier -- using the repositories from the ubuntuguide.org which were bad -- i removed the references, but i think that might be the root of the error ..
[12:07] <Seveas> and then retry apt-get update
[12:08] <Flessan> G'day
[12:09] <contradictoryben> * is back
[12:09] <LoPMX> hmm how do i enable shadows and transparency?
[12:09] <sanjay> Seveas: sudo rm /var .... gave me error - pasted in bin ... shud i still retry apt-get update ?
[12:09] <kyncani> contradictoryben: "screen" can provide a scroll buffer
[12:09] <contradictoryben> kyncani: interesting ... i'll investigate screen, thanks
[12:10] <kyncani> contradictoryben: and "screen" gives much much more thant a scroll buffer. You really should use it (imho)
[12:10] <Seveas> sanjay, yes
[12:11] <Swall> hi everybody.i am trying to install azureus but having some problems.could anyone help me please
[12:11] <Swall> i am having the following message
[12:11] <Swall> .jar:swt-mozilla.jar:swt-pi.jar -Djava.library.path=/home/fkacani/documents/program_files/azureus org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main ''
[12:11] <Swall> StartSocket: passing startup args to already-running process.
[12:11] <Swall> Azureus TERMINATED.
[12:11] <Nikusan> Swall, do you have the latest java?
[12:12] <Swall> jre1.5.0_06
[12:12] <Flessan> I would like to update f/fox to 1.5, have dowloaded it, not sure where to extract it to (have just been born into Linux - less than 6hrs old)
[12:12] <adriann> hey people
[12:12] <adriann> good day
[12:12] <Swall> yes nikusan
[12:12] <Nikusan> Swall, all I did was download the archive from the azureus site, extract and run
[12:13] <Nikusan> and it works fine. Do you need to install it?
[12:13] <Swall> yes
[12:13] <frogz00> kyncani: can you run 'screen' on the console though?
[12:13] <kyncani> frogz00: sure
[12:13] <Swall> i want to play
[12:14] <adriann> i just want to ask
[12:14] <kyncani> frogz00: btw, screen is the best console-app ever ! (not kidding)
[12:14] <adriann> why do my mozilla shuts down automatically
[12:14] <Swall> i am new and dont know how it works
[12:14] <frogz00> kyncani: I don't understand how console logging works then - it pipes it to the screen process?
[12:15] <kyncani> frogz00: screen is an app that you start *after* you've logged in, obviously
[12:15] <Swall> changed nikusan u know whats that passing ardsto ..
[12:15] <sanjay> Seveas: gave me pretty much the same errors : (
[12:15] <onkarshinde> Flessan: you can extract it anywhere you want if you want only for your user. If you want for all then preferably /usr/local. But I would suggest to wait untill it is in main repo
[12:15] <sanjay> Seveas: do you want me to re-paste this output ?
[12:16] <confrey> hi everybody
[12:16] <onkarshinde> adriann: Can you explain the problem more?
[12:16] <Flessan> onkarshinde: ok thx
[12:16] <sanjay> Seveas - on the other hand, these errors dont seem to be affecting my ability to install packages too much - shud i just ignore it for now ?
[12:16] <frogz00> kyncani: you know the console msgs on shft + alt + f8 - you can get these to log to the screen process, rather than the console?
[12:16] <confrey> I need some help to compile a pcmcia wifi driver, can anybody help me?
[12:17] <onkarshinde> Flessan: If you want all users to use it then you will have to create a link in /usr/local/bin to the new FF exevutable.
[12:17] <adriann> u see i am opening a website with a media playing (wma) on the background...and then when i try to open it it says totem cannot play it...then my mozilla shuts down
[12:17] <kyncani> frogz00: i don't understand, what do you mean ? are you talking about the "screen" application ?
[12:17] <Flessan> onkarshinde: i was hoping to place it where the current verion is
[12:18] <Swall> adriann same to me
[12:18] <Swall> it needs some plugins
[12:18] <onkarshinde> Flessan: No you can't. Current version is distributed in different directories. So it is not possible to directly replace it unless you compile from source.
[12:19] <onkarshinde> adriann: for wma you will need to install w32codecs
[12:19] <onkarshinde> !tell adriann about w32codecs
[12:19] <frogz00> kyncani: if you hit 'ctrl + alt + F8' you get the console - can you get screen to manage that display? I thought the usual way was to enable a frame buffer
[12:19] <adriann> thanks
[12:19] <adriann> thanks
[12:20] <adriann> one more thing
[12:20] <Flessan> onkarshinde: thx , guess i got a lot to learn :-)
[12:20] <adriann> the vids i have in mpeg format are not playing so well in totem
[12:20] <confrey> I obtain this error while compiling : /usr/local/src/rtl8180-0.21/r8180_core.c:3632: error: structure has no member named `slot_name'
[12:20] <confrey> ; what can I do?
[12:20] <kyncani> frogz00: when you've logged in, if you've installed screen, just type screen to start the app. Screen will give you as many shells as you want in a single console + scrollback history + you can have the same console in X as in a standard text console.
[12:20] <sanjay> adriann -- u can try downloading vlc , i think ..
[12:21] <frogz00> kyncani: cool, thx
[12:21] <adriann> ok
[12:21] <adriann> vlc? in synaptic?
[12:21] <testmach1ne> vlc is nice
[12:21] <onkarshinde> adriann: Install totem-xine package. It will remove totem-gstreamer but playback is far better.
[12:21] <testmach1ne> i think its in synaptic yes
[12:21] <kyncani> frogz00: + if you log in a distant machine in screen, and your local machine or the network link dies, you don't loose the connection :)
[12:21] <adriann> what could be the best then? i tried totem-xine...it's still awful
[12:21] <sanjay> adriann: ya - not sure which repository - but shud exist in synaptic ..
[12:22] <adriann> another thing
[12:22] <kyncani> frogz00: best console app ever :)
[12:22] <adriann> thanks
[12:22] <onkarshinde> adriann: No it is not. Which ubuntu version are you running?
[12:22] <adriann> 5.10
[12:22] <frogz00> ok, I'm sold - :)
[12:23] <kyncani> :)
[12:23] <frogz00> adriann: gxine is pretty good
[12:23] <onkarshinde> adriann: If totem when totem-xine installed gives you problem then the problem is with file. I use totem for playing all sorts of movies. Of course I have w32codecs installed.
[12:23] <sanjay> Seveas: anything to help with the repository issue ? (or should i just wait till i have 5.10 ...) ?
[12:23] <adriann> ok
[12:23] <onkarshinde> sanjay: what issue are you facing?
[12:23] <Fubber> In gFTP how can I access network servers that I have mapped?
[12:24] <sanjay> onkar: i pastebinned the error messg. im getting from sudo apt-get update
[12:24] <Fubber> so from my desktop, tranfer files on a network server to a host?
[12:24] <adriann> how do i tell my lappy to use a default program?
[12:24] <Ce_Dreaku> hello guys can anyone please give me a really quick walkthrough on using WINE?
[12:24] <onkarshinde> sanjay: link to pastebin
[12:24] <adriann> i'll install w32codecs then
[12:24] <onkarshinde> adriann: default program for what?
[12:24] <adriann> like for mp3
[12:25] <adriann> jsut assigning a certain program..just like in windows
[12:25] <sanjay> onkarshinde: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5475
[12:25] <onkarshinde> Ce_Dreaku: Install wine, then run winecfg and you are done.
[12:25] <Fubber> Anyone?
[12:25] <Fubber> In gFTP how can I access network servers that I have mapped?
[12:25] <Fubber> so from my desktop, tranfer files on a network server to a host?
[12:25] <xxMEL0Nxx> hi
[12:25] <Seveas> sanjay, you can safely ignore the errors, maybe it's a problem at the server
[12:25] <xxMEL0Nxx> can anyone help me?
[12:26] <onkarshinde> adriann: System->Preferences->Preferred Applications
[12:26] <Ce_Dreaku> Onkarshinde: I did that and know what should happen, like should a setup program in windows work like a normal one, I mean I want to install and use some programs for windows
[12:26] <xxMEL0Nxx> I can't mount a new hdd with user write permissions
[12:26] <Seveas> !tell xxMEL0Nxx about anyone
[12:26] <sanjay> Seveas: cool : ) - thanks a million, again ....
[12:26] <adriann> ok
[12:26] <adriann> thanks
[12:27] <poningru> xxMEL0Nxx: how did you try to mount it?
[12:27] <sanjay> just one more question -- is there an equivalent file on ubuntu to the ifcfg-eth0 file in RedHat, and where is it located? basically, in which file does the GUI put my IP addr. settings ?
[12:27] <onkarshinde> Ce_Dreaku: It really depends on what program you are installing. Setup may go fine but the program may not run. Go to www.winehq.com and check applications database.
[12:27] <xxMEL0Nxx> poningru: mount -rw /dev/hdb1 /mnt/incoming
[12:27] <adriann> like .. how can i force my pc to open *.pdf files using Acrobat instead of the default of linux?
[12:28] <onkarshinde> !tell adriann about alternatives
[12:28] <onkarshinde> adriann: there is something called setting alternatives. You will have to search it on wiki
[12:29] <poningru> xxMEL0Nxx: mount -o rw /dev/hdb1 /mnt/incoming
[12:29] <poningru> try that
[12:29] <poningru> if you have to do it that way
[12:29] <Fubber> In gFTP how can I access network servers that I have mapped?
[12:29] <Fubber> so from my desktop, tranfer files on a network server to a host?
[12:29] <onkarshinde> Fubber: what do you mean by servers you have mapped? Where have you mapped them?
[12:29] <adriann> hey...i was trying to install w32codecs but i got errors
[12:30] <onkarshinde> adriann: what errors?
[12:30] <xxMEL0Nxx> poningru: same :(
[12:30] <adriann> it said unexpected end of file in version number in w32codecs,,,blah blah
[12:30] <xxMEL0Nxx> poningru: I can write with root, but none of my users can write
[12:30] <onkarshinde> adriann: from where did you download it?
[12:30] <ulinskie> !help
[12:30] <onkarshinde> adriann: Perhaps file didn't download properly.
[12:31] <ulinskie> I cannot find glib-2.0
[12:31] <adriann> should i redownload?
[12:31] <poningru> xxMEL0Nxx: doh sudo mount -w /dev/hdb1 /mnt/incoming
[12:31] <Fubber> onkarshinde, Ive created maps on Desktop : Places -> Connect to server
[12:31] <adriann> ok
[12:31] <Thorondor> does anyone know why the network settings manager keeps forgetting my settings? my new settings always get overwritten by old ones.
[12:31] <adriann> i am redownloading it again
[12:31] <poningru> Thorondor: when you restart?
[12:31] <Thorondor> for example
[12:31] <Thorondor> even after restarting the network manager
[12:32] <onkarshinde> Fubber: then why do you need gftp to recognize it? You can directly transfer files from that mapping. gFtp is a standalone ftp client.
[12:32] <Thorondor> my WEP-key is an old one
[12:32] <onkarshinde> ulinskie: is it related to some compilation?
[12:32] <Thorondor> as soon as i close the network manager, the connection to my wlan-router dies.
[12:32] <rowanjl> ffs, someone must know where --with-apache-dir needs to point
[12:32] <Fubber> onkarshinde, I want to in gFTP, on the left hand side have my network server and on the right have my webhost, you get me?
[12:33] <xxMEL0Nxx> poningru: same
[12:34] <onkarshinde> Fubber: I don't think that is possible. This seems to be remote copying (copying between two machines on network). gFtp is for transferring between your machine and some network machine.
[12:34] <^BoyHenyo> heloo people!!
[12:34] <onkarshinde> Fubber: You can do it this way. Create mappings for both machnes. And then open that mapping and just copy from one thing to another
[12:35] <onkarshinde> ^BoyHenyo: Hello
[12:35] <poningru> xxMEL0Nxx: make sure the folder you are mounting to has write acess for you
[12:36] <gustav_> adriann: just right-click a pdf file and click at the option furthest down (I dont know what's it called since my Ubuntu is in Swedish) and go to the tab called "open with" and add acrobat
[12:37] <Fubber> onkarshinde, true thanks
[12:37] <xxMEL0Nxx> poningru: yes it has
[12:37] <xxMEL0Nxx> poningru: I can mount an external hard drive to it and I can write without problems
[12:38] <MiSS_n00b> how can i delete two folders from my desktop? they are root
[12:38] <gustav_> MiSS_n00b: open at terminal and write:
[12:39] <gustav_> MiSS_n00b: cd Desktop
[12:39] <gustav_> MiSS_n00b: sudo rm -r NAME_OF_THE_FOLDER
[12:39] <MiSS_n00b> thnx
[12:40] <coz> hello all
[12:40] <coz> are there any utilities to clean up the drive from temp files etc?
[12:43] <xxMEL0Nxx> poningru:mxl
[12:43] <MiSS_n00b> oh fudge
[12:44] <MiSS_n00b> dude man i just done something real dumb lol
[12:44] <MiSS_n00b> i accidently deleted the usr folder
[12:44] <MiSS_n00b> can i get it back
[12:44] <_null> no
[12:44] <onkarshinde> MiSS_n00b: Nope.
[12:44] <onkarshinde> MiSS_n00b: You are doomed.
[12:45] <MiSS_n00b> :(
[12:45] <kbrooks> MiSS_n00b, what usr folder
[12:45] <MiSS_n00b> um
[12:45] <gustav_> MiSS_n00b: unless you trew it in the trashbin
[12:45] <MiSS_n00b> u know the main one
[12:45] <MiSS_n00b> lol
[12:45] <MiSS_n00b> i had one on my desktop called usr too
[12:45] <MiSS_n00b> and i thought i was deleting that
[12:45] <adriann> thanks gustav
[12:45] <adriann> brb
[12:46] <kbrooks>  /usr you mean?
[12:46] <MiSS_n00b> so theres no recycle bin or anything?
[12:46] <MiSS_n00b> yes that one
[12:46] <kbrooks> are you sure you deleted that?
[12:46] <MiSS_n00b> YES very sure im getting major errors
[12:46] <Seveas> MiSS_n00b, then you will have to reinstall
[12:46] <MiSS_n00b> ohh buggerr
[12:46] <kbrooks> did u do sudo rm -rf /usr ?
[12:47] <kbrooks> or are you logged in as root?
[12:47] <rowanjl> Don't want to sound like I whining bastard... but thats exactly how I feel... I still have found no clue about --with-apache-dir, and #apache is silent to my question as per bloody usual
[12:47] <MiSS_n00b> root@ubuntu:~ # cd /home/melz/Desktop
[12:47] <MiSS_n00b> root@ubuntu:/home/melz/Desktop # sudo rm -r /usr/
[12:47] <MiSS_n00b> root@ubuntu:/home/melz/Desktop #
[12:47] <MiSS_n00b> sorry
[12:47] <MiSS_n00b> yea
[12:47] <Chousuke> MiSS_n00b: ouch :/
[12:47] <MiSS_n00b> lol
[12:47] <Chousuke> who told you to do that? ;P
[12:47] <kbrooks> DON'T overuse root
[12:47] <onkarshinde> rowanjl: Can you explain your problem more.