[21:27] <ubuntu1> Oh Natesky9, I'm not your guy... I'm new.. This is just a default nick
[21:27] <Natesky9> neersighted, are you using the "additional drivers" in the settings?
[21:27] <neersighted> ATI/AMD propritery FGLRX
[21:28] <neersighted> remove then reoobt?
[21:28] <neersighted> *reboot
[21:28] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, no
[21:28] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, do a sudo aticonfig --initial
[21:28]  * neersighted already tried removeing x, reinstalling it, then dpkg-reconfigureing it
[21:28] <Exxon> neersighted, let me call my friedn its using lubuntu and will transfer his xorg to you 10 min max
[21:28] <neersighted> kk
[21:28] <neersighted> his conf?
[21:28] <Natesky9> neersighted, try to activate one, then see if it makes any difference, then try the other one.
[21:28] <MahaVishnu> Exxon, how is that going to help him ?
[21:29] <neersighted> just ping me when your done
[21:29] <FUN_> ee364a11: quote
[21:29] <neersighted> I get notify-send notifications
[21:29] <neersighted> <3
[21:29] <Exxon> ibm t41 more modifications i will let you know
[21:29] <neersighted> ?
[21:29] <neersighted> Can i use a screenshot manager while im in CLI mode?
[21:29] <neersighted> the ctrl-alt-F1
[21:29] <neersighted> to show you guys the low res?
[21:29] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, do you have a command fglrxinfo
[21:30] <DJAnonimo> why my laptop sometimes stuck to Killing all remaining processes and do not shutdown. I need to force with a button
[21:30] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, and your only problem is low res tty's ?
[21:30] <neersighted> and no boot screen
[21:30] <Natesky9> I need someone to help, I'm trying to access files and folders on another computer, but I'm having trouble. Anybody have any ideas?
[21:30] <neersighted> and memory error on start
[21:30] <MahaVishnu> ubuntu 11.10 ?
[21:30] <neersighted> yep
[21:30] <neersighted> $ neer@sighted (~): fglrxinfo
[21:30] <neersighted> display: :0  screen: 0
[21:30] <neersighted> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[21:30] <neersighted> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 4200
[21:30] <neersighted> OpenGL version string: 3.3.11005 Compatibility Profile Context
[21:30] <FloodBot1> neersighted: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <neersighted> i thought i had the pastie URL T_T
[21:31] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, you didn't paste your /etc/default/grub
[21:31] <neersighted> yeah i did
[21:31]  * neersighted looks in his tabs
[21:31] <neersighted> http://pastie.org/2988010
[21:31] <MahaVishnu> I saw your x.org
[21:31] <neersighted> http://pastie.org/2988010
[21:32] <neersighted> Are there any clipboard managers with nopaste/pastie/pastebin built in?
[21:32] <FUN_> ee364a11: quote
[21:32] <neersighted> dv310p3r: missing a "3" there
[21:32] <FUN_> ee364a11: quote
[21:32] <FUN_> ee364a11: quote
[21:32] <FUN_> ee364a11: quote
[21:32] <neersighted> FUN_: ?
[21:32] <FloodBot1> FUN_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:32] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" put that under the first set of things.
[21:33] <FUN_> ee364a11: quote
[21:33] <neersighted> i did
[21:33] <neersighted> oh
[21:33] <neersighted> oic
[21:33] <MahaVishnu> under GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR
[21:33] <Natesky9> Can someone help me with Sharing Files and Folders??
[21:34] <neersighted> now reboot?
[21:34] <neersighted> I put it under GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="quiet splash"
[21:34] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, #GRUB_GFXMODE=1360x768 see a line like that ? remove the # and select your resolution. after all this. do a sudo update-grub2
[21:34] <MahaVishnu> NO
[21:34] <MahaVishnu> NO
[21:34] <FloodBot1> MahaVishnu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:34] <neersighted> kk
[21:34] <MahaVishnu> stfu floodbot
[21:34] <neersighted> lolololol
[21:34] <neersighted> no what?
[21:34] <pangolin> !language | MahaVishnu
[21:34] <ubuntu1> When you are using ubuntu from a flash drive, when installing applications, which partition on my hard drive does it save them to?
[21:34] <neersighted> lololol
[21:35] <FUN_> ee364a11: quote
[21:35] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, also do a sudo update-initramfs
[21:35] <neersighted> ubuntu1: your boot drive
[21:35] <neersighted> kk
[21:35] <neersighted> MahaVishnu: is it bad if i put GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" under GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="quiet splash"
[21:35] <neersighted> order should not mater?
[21:35] <MahaVishnu> what?
[21:35] <neersighted> And grub is not low res
[21:36] <FUN_> ee364a11: quote
[21:36] <neersighted> its CLI/no boot screen.  I just get the basic with 4 pink dots
[21:36] <neersighted> FUN_: ?
[21:36] <MahaVishnu> !ops FUN_
[21:36] <neersighted> FUN_: y u so spam?
[21:36] <Natesky9> ubuntu1, It doesn't save it on your hard drive, unless you specify something to save there. Instead, if you are connected to the internet, it saves the applications and settings in an online file that is deleted after you log off
[21:36] <ubuntu1> neersighted.. you are kidding me! grrrr noooooo
[21:36] <neersighted> All your data is stored by default on your startup drive
[21:36] <FUN_> no... just making a bot for my project.. sorry.
[21:37] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, also do a sudo update-initramfs -u
[21:37] <neersighted> but you can remap your home to another drive if you wqish
[21:37] <MahaVishnu> forgot the -u
[21:37] <neersighted> *wish
[21:37] <pangolin> FUN_: please test somewhere else
[21:37] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, you alrdy have that quiet splash line? not in the one you pasted
[21:37] <ubuntu1> Natesky9, are you sure?
[21:37] <MahaVishnu> !op FUN_
[21:37] <neersighted> lol yep
[21:37] <neersighted> i already had a quiet line
[21:37] <neersighted> want my grub.cfg
[21:37] <neersighted> i havent updated it yet
[21:37] <ubuntu1> what about when you are not connected to the internet Natesky9, does it save in RAM or where?
[21:38] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, I see that line at like the bottom of the one you pasted now. but it does not belong there remove that
[21:38] <Logan_> MahaVishnu: You need a "|" between the factoid name and the username, for future reference.
[21:38] <MahaVishnu> Logan_, like !ops | FUN_ ?
[21:38] <Logan_> Yes, like that.
[21:38] <sskalnik> yeah
[21:38] <MahaVishnu> kk ty
[21:38] <Logan_> MahaVishnu: No problem.
[21:39] <Natesky9> ubuntu1 Yes, a Live cd or usb does not store programs or Files on your hard drive unless you specify them to. If you have a live usb that you have partitioned with (startup disc creator), it will save them in that directory
[21:39] <neersighted> http://pastie.org/2988088
[21:39] <neersighted> this is what i have
[21:39] <neersighted> what do i need to change?
[21:39] <MahaVishnu> remove those 3 lines at the bottom and paste the one I gave you under GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR on the top portion of the file.
[21:39] <neersighted> ?
[21:40] <neersighted> can you repaste the update file?
[21:40] <eqwd> Does it use more RAM running KDE apps under Gnome? I wanted to use Kate.. but apt would download about 10 million KDE files and i though.. no thanks
[21:40] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, arg. yea
[21:40] <ubuntu1> Natesky9, I'm using a pendrive so does it save installed program on the pendrive?
[21:40] <Natesky9> What have you created it with?
[21:40] <neersighted> and why remove GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="quiet splash"
[21:40] <neersighted> that was always there
[21:40] <MahaVishnu> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="quiet splash" is line 7 neersighted and delete line 49-50
[21:41] <neersighted> ubuntu1: if it's not a live disk, then its saved to the flash drive
[21:41] <Natesky9> ubuntul, how did you install the pendrive?
[21:41] <ubuntu1> Natesky9, with linux pendrive.org I think
[21:41] <neersighted> okay MahaVishnu
[21:41] <neersighted> *pendrivelinux.org
[21:41] <ubuntu1> ah that's good then! neersighted
[21:41] <Natesky9> Then you did it from a windows computer? and are you on an ubuntu computer right now?
[21:41] <neersighted> http://pastie.org/2988105
[21:42] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, when your ubuntu boots, it goes from grub to the login screen or what? you see no logo?
[21:42] <neersighted> ubuntu1: When i Said your bootdrive, i ment the pen drive. You ARE booting off the pen drive?
[21:42] <neersighted> MahaVishnu: No, grub works fine
[21:42] <neersighted> thats a non-issue
[21:42] <neersighted> Plymoth is derped, and so is CLI res
[21:42] <ubuntu1> neersighted: yes I realized that after my first emotional outburst
[21:43] <neersighted> i get the low res, sloid purple with orange dots bootscreen
[21:43] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, sry add _DEFAULT to line 7. yea but you need 'splash' enabled in grub I believe. for a bootup logo someone correct me if i'm wrong !
[21:43] <ubuntu1> I deleted a whole bunch of files by accident on my 'normal' boot drive
[21:43] <neersighted> plus lots of text-spam
[21:43] <neersighted> its enabled
[21:43] <ubuntu1> I deleted a whole bunch of files by accident on my 'normal' boot drive neersighted
[21:43] <neersighted> LINUX_COMMAND_LINE="quiet splash"
[21:43] <neersighted> ubuntu1: oic
[21:43] <Natesky9> Can anyone help me with File Sharing??? Please???
[21:44] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, your grub file is different from mine. ill paste mine for you to see. mine works for the logo + cmd line res
[21:44] <neersighted> http://pastie.org/2988110
[21:44] <neersighted> kk MahaVishnu
[21:44] <neersighted> I'm using burg, but it is functionally the same
[21:44] <neersighted> Natesky9: apt-get install samba
[21:44] <neersighted> or
[21:44] <neersighted> apt-get install openssh
[21:45] <Natesky9> neersighted I've tried samba already. On both computers, and it's given me the same proble,
[21:45] <neersighted> which is?
[21:45] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, http://paste.ubuntu.com/764288/
[21:45] <neersighted> THen use a SSH server for SCP/SFTP
[21:45] <neersighted> kk MahaVishnu
[21:45] <Phillllip> HAI GUISE
[21:45] <ubuntu1> neersighted, I have a tendency to jump to conclusion a lot
[21:45] <neersighted> ubuntu1: :p
[21:45] <Natesky9> It tells me that I cannot mount the drive. I can see the shares, but it loads after 5 minutes and tells me that it cannot moune
[21:46] <neersighted> MahaVishnu: How do i find out my display resolution?
[21:46] <neersighted> Natesky9: Get a SSH server
[21:46] <neersighted> SFTP is the best
[21:46] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, xrandr
[21:46] <Exxon> neersighted, that pig is avalibable rolling some there g-knows
[21:46] <Natesky9> neersighted How do I do that?
[21:46] <neersighted> Exxon: pig?!?!?!?!?
[21:46] <neersighted> Natesky9: I cant remember the package name... openssh?
[21:47] <brightspark> neersighted, sshd is the server
[21:47] <neersighted> oh :p
[21:47] <brightspark> or opensshd depending on context
[21:47] <Exxon> neersighted, i will elobrate i went to fetch the xorg has he using x-ubuntu xorg but it seems..read stated above sorry
[21:47] <neersighted> What res. should i set grub too MahaVishnu
[21:47] <Kashani> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[21:47] <neersighted> lol np Exxon
[21:48] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, whatever you want like 1024x768 or 1280x720
[21:48] <neersighted> trying to rember what my size is
[21:48] <neersighted> 1280 was the smaller one, so what could the width be?
[21:48] <neersighted> xxxx*1280
[21:49] <ubuntu1> I need to find the timestamp of a file of when it was created. stat gives me all dates as of today when I changed it's name. How could I find when the file was created ? Is there a way?
[21:49] <neersighted> oh, 1280X140
[21:49] <jrib> ubuntu1: what filesystem?
[21:49] <ubuntu1> ext4 jrib
[21:50] <jrib> ubuntu1: I think the existing tools do not yet look up creation time... you need to use debugfs.  Google "ext4 creation time debugfs"
[21:50] <Exxon> neersighted, you should really try replacing the xorg without installing you will get back the vesa drivers and certainly no compiz..i think you can manage
[21:50] <neersighted> ?
[21:51] <neersighted> I already removed/reinstalled about 5 times
[21:51] <neersighted> should i disable propritary drives?
[21:51] <neersighted> *drivers
[21:51] <histo> ubuntu1: ubuntu1 I don't think you can find creation time. but try here. http://bloggerdigest.blogspot.com/2006/10/using-ls-command-by-examples.html most people suggest the ls -lc flag but that is wrong.
[21:51] <histo> ubuntu1: it's not stored anywhere that I know of
[21:51] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, sry gotta go. someone will know how to fix it.
[21:52] <jrib> histo: ext4 does
[21:52] <neersighted> kk, trying to reboot now without ATI drivers
[21:52] <neersighted> ima delete teh drives, then reinstall xorg
[21:52] <Exxon> neersighted, we don't stand a change rather that the failed drivers ..
[21:52] <neersighted> ?
[21:52] <Exxon> !blacklist
[21:53] <neersighted> I don;t get your grammer
[21:53] <neersighted> we don;t stand a charge?
[21:53] <imbezol> Exxon is like a random word bot
[21:53] <neersighted> *'
[21:53] <neersighted> lol imbezol
[21:53] <neersighted> *bawt
[21:53] <histo> jrib: Oh yeah where?
[21:53] <neersighted> oh its a known issue lol
[21:54] <neersighted> Propritary drives messing up default res/boot logo
[21:54]  * neersighted facedesks
[21:54] <jrib> histo: in the filesystem :)  It's not exposed by any tools like stat yet though.  You can get at it using debugfs
[21:54] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, really? that sucks
[21:54] <ubuntu1> thanks jrib and histo
[21:54] <neersighted> brb after reboot
[21:54] <MahaVishnu> neersighted, haha !
[21:54] <neersighted> no 3d for me
[21:54] <histo> jrib: ahh crtime
[21:54] <jrib> histo: yes
[21:54] <neersighted> brb!
[21:54] <histo> ubuntu1: debugfs is the way to do it
[21:54] <MahaVishnu> !VBEINFO
[21:55] <MahaVishnu> !vbeinfo
[21:55] <Exxon> simply blacklist the drivers that you installed or remove it i don't care..purge it..simply re-install the xorg without reinstall the whole xubuntu or for time sake backup you files ..get a new install.
[21:55] <histo> ubuntu1: something like debugfs -R 'stat /some/file' /dev/sda#
[21:55] <eqwd> apt-get install kate .. installs a billion files ..  apt-get remove kate .. removes 4 files.. Great
[21:56] <histo> ubuntu1: there are scripts to find it as well.
[21:56] <histo> eqwd: is kate a meta package possibly?
[21:56] <imbezol> eqwd: apt-get autoremove ?
[21:57] <Boreeas> Is there a tool/program to dump the memory of a certain process?
[21:57] <auronandace> eqwd: i suppose when you installed kate you didn't have kde?
[21:57] <resus> hi, i'm having an issue getting vsftp users to authenticate through pam_pwdfile does anyone have any xperience with that?
[21:57] <eqwd> auronandace,  that is correct
[21:57] <monsterwizard> hi I am using pen drive linu
[21:57] <monsterwizard> x
[21:57] <monsterwizard> with ubuntu
[21:58] <auronandace> eqwd: an what does kate do better than any gtk text editor?
[21:58] <monsterwizard> I put persistence to max volume is this a good idea or not ?
[21:58] <histo> !best | monsterwizard
[21:58] <monsterwizard> I'm not talkabout about choosing an application
[21:58] <monsterwizard> f you read what I wrote
[21:58] <eqwd> auronandace, i didn't like that in Gedit you can't customise shortcuts.. just things like that. Kate is more for programming stuff. But i can use Jedit i guess
[21:58] <histo> monsterwizard: You're asking peoples opinions
[21:59] <monsterwizard> not on what software to use
[21:59] <histo> monsterwizard: if you're asking if it will work yes it will.
[21:59] <neersighted> *censored* you ATI graphics
[21:59] <monsterwizard> no
[21:59] <monsterwizard> what are the disadvangages
[21:59] <monsterwizard> ?
[21:59] <neersighted> Thanks guys
[21:59] <histo> monsterwizard: you can't use the thumb drive for anything else would be the disadvantage
[21:59] <monsterwizard> I see
[21:59] <monsterwizard> thank you
[21:59] <neersighted> Now, i just have to fix the "Signal out of range, this may barbecue your screen" errors my display is giving
[21:59] <monsterwizard> how about the the actual ISO?
[21:59] <monsterwizard> nothin
[22:00] <imbezol> lol neersighted
[22:00] <histo> monsterwizard: what about the iso?
[22:00] <monsterwizard> does it effect the actual OS in anyway ?
[22:00] <histo> monsterwizard: I don't understand what you are asking?
[22:00] <monsterwizard> ok
[22:00] <monsterwizard> erm
[22:00] <neersighted> yeah, its really dumb. I'm not sure if removing hte drives, changing burg arround to have _DEFAULT added to it, or removing x and installin git again did it
[22:01] <neersighted> my money is on ATI... Well thats 3 hours wasted
[22:01] <fpu> hello
[22:01] <neersighted> hallo!
[22:01] <histo> !hi
[22:01] <neersighted> !hi | fpu
[22:01] <fpu> I'm looking for image viewer that can launch slideshow with smooth transitions and EXIT after finishing it
[22:01] <histo> neersighted: they removed it
[22:01] <neersighted> awww
[22:02] <neersighted> fpu: Shotwell?
[22:02] <fpu> geeqie works ok except it doesn't exit after it does the job...
[22:02] <fpu> bonus points for being lightweight
[22:02] <neersighted> I think shotwell does that...
[22:02] <fpu> let me see
[22:02] <histo> fpu: geeqie is really lightweight
[22:02] <neersighted> hmmm, i could have sworn i saw a "digital picture frame" app somewhere
[22:02] <Exxon> neersighted, not only yours many are facing such ati is no more ..sry
[22:02] <neersighted> Exxon: np, thanks for trying!
[22:03] <neersighted> It's the thought that counts (I think)
[22:03] <fpu> all has to be done from command line, it's supposed to work in kind of interaction-less photo frame
[22:03] <fpu> shotwell installing, I'll check it out in a sec
[22:03] <neersighted> fpu: from CLI, because then you need X, or just start from a term
[22:03] <fpu> neersighted: I'm not sure what you mean, anyway there is Xorg
[22:03] <neersighted> cli mode
[22:04] <histo> fpu: you might not need X there are image viewers for CLI
[22:04] <neersighted> hi ctrl-alt-f1, or reboot with the "text" paramter passed through grub
[22:04] <fpu> it just has to be started from never-ending forever-looping script
[22:04] <neersighted> a bash script?
[22:04] <fpu> histo: do you mean those sending images directly to framebuffer?
[22:04] <fpu> yes :) it'll be in bash
[22:04] <neersighted> I bet if there was a libray for it, you could bouce them onscreen
[22:04] <eqwd> auronandace, actually i have found a Gedit plugin that seems to do what I want, so that is good I like Gedit
[22:04] <fpu> I don't want to make it too hard, plus it will play videos too
[22:05] <fpu> so full Xorg it is
[22:05] <neersighted> Whats the max icon size for notify-send?
[22:05] <resus> anyone familiar with vsftpd?
[22:05] <auronandace> eqwd: i'm not much of a programmer so mousepad or leafpad is good enough for me :)
[22:05] <resus> having issues using pam authentication
[22:06] <neersighted> Oh, and is there a paste manager that has a webpaster built in? Sorta like how i can hit a shourtcut to upload a screenshot to my site as a example
[22:06] <neersighted> .nicklist screen
[22:06] <neersighted> oops, sorry
[22:06] <histo> resus: there are howto's @ help.ubuntu.com
[22:06] <histo> !ftpd | resus
[22:06] <histo> !vsftpd > resus
[22:07] <fpu> someone mentioned shotwell, how can I start it from cli in slideshow fullscreen mode?
[22:07] <neersighted> !sftpd | resus
[22:07] <fpu> I can't find it...
[22:07] <neersighted> ..
[22:07] <neersighted> !sftpd | resus
[22:07] <resus> huh?
[22:07] <histo> fpu: man shotwell
[22:07] <neersighted> sftp > ftp
[22:07] <histo> fpu: that will give you all the options for starting it
[22:07] <neersighted> !sshd | resus
[22:07] <fpu> I tried, it's empty; and shotwell --help-all doesn't show option I want
[22:08] <neersighted> hmm
[22:08] <neersighted> i could of swron i did it one! TO THE INTERNET!
[22:08] <histo> resus: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[22:08] <fpu> geeqie was perfect, if only there was a way to kill it after slideshow...
[22:08] <histo> fpu: what's empty?
[22:08] <neersighted> resus: Do you want a FTP or SFTP server?
[22:08] <fpu> histo: there is one sentence about application
[22:08] <neersighted> fpu: maybe run it with a bash scrpt?
[22:08] <histo> neersighted: he's trying to get vsftp to work it's an ftp server
[22:09] <neersighted> fpu: if the time is always hte same, then
[22:09] <neersighted> let me make a draft script
[22:09] <neersighted> histo: kk
[22:09] <fpu> neersighted: please tell me exactly what you mean
[22:09] <kimp> I am delighted to advise that my laptop is now back in action, dual boot!  Ubuntu and Win 7 :)
[22:09] <neersighted> ill show you
[22:09] <neersighted> let me write it
[22:09] <fpu> do you want to start geeqie, measure time it takes for slideshow, then kill it?
[22:09] <resus> neersighted ftp
[22:09] <neersighted> Whats the program name fpu?
[22:09] <Exxon> neersighted, there is no need to already answered by you
[22:10] <oCean> neersighted: use less <enter> ok? You're comments are really cluttering the channel. Try to keep your answers/responses in single line
[22:10] <neersighted> fpu: What is the command to start the slideshow? oCean k
[22:10] <fpu> neersighted: geeqie started with -s option will start slideshow
[22:10] <fpu> shotwell doesn't have such option
[22:10] <neersighted> okay
[22:10] <resus> it's funny how a lot of times when a particualr question is asked you get swamped with suggestions to just do something else
[22:11] <Zewolfe> lol
[22:11] <fpu> hehe
[22:11] <Zewolfe> anyone played with mobile broadband? Sierra wireless in particular
[22:11] <brightspark> resus, a lot of questions are asked 'how can I use X to do Y'; experienced users often have a good way to accomplish Y without involving X.
[22:11] <histo> resus: yes
[22:12] <neersighted> fpu: What command reasdthe photos? geequie -s /home/me/mypix/*?
[22:12] <fpu> neersighted: something like that
[22:12] <fpu> but I don't know what you're trying to accomplish
[22:12] <neersighted> specific please? I want to make thsi actually run
[22:12] <neersighted> *this
[22:12] <fpu> I used also -t and -f options
[22:13] <neersighted> can you give me the complete command
[22:14] <fpu> geeqie -s -f -t /home/someone/somewhere/*
[22:14] <fpu> but that doesn't matter
[22:14] <histo> fpu: you could try and grab the status of the window from command line and if the slide show is stopped kill the program
[22:14] <fpu> gthumb seems to do what I want
[22:14] <neersighted> kk
[22:14] <DJAnonimo> how to save permanently LC_ALL? with export LC_ALL is back to default when rebooted
[22:14] <fpu> histo: I didn't find a way to do it
[22:14] <histo> fpu: although I would just find another app
[22:15] <fpu> My first idea would be to check how many files are there to display
[22:16] <fpu> multiply them by time geeqie shows each of it
[22:16] <resus> brightspark i agree with that but you can't assume that the asker is always an inexperienced user
[22:16] <fpu> and after that time just kill it
[22:16] <neersighted> hmm
[22:16] <histo> DJAnonimo: .profile
[22:16]  * neersighted grabs some of his code snippits
[22:16] <fpu> but it would be dirtiest way I acn imagine...too dirty even for me :-)
[22:16] <neersighted> fpu: I'm making a scipt to run it, and then kill it >:)
[22:16] <fpu> neersighted: no need
[22:16] <fpu> however you can show it, I'm curious
[22:16] <neersighted> oh really? I was getting the old regex out
[22:16] <neersighted> kk, let me get my code
[22:16] <fpu> ?
[22:17] <neersighted> regex to get the pid from a grep of ps ax
[22:17] <Boreeas> Is there a tool/program to dump the memory of a certain process?
[22:17] <DJAnonimo> histo: it wont be run just when logging in a terminal like bashrc does?
[22:18] <Exxon> neersighted, simply get the script off the table please..you simply don't know what you are giving and what they will do with it.
[22:18] <neersighted> okay...
[22:18] <histo> Boreeas: cat /proc/<pid>/smaps
[22:18] <dios_mio> how to install pidgin in the new ubuntu?
[22:19] <histo> DJAnonimo: what are you trying to do exactly?
[22:19] <DJAnonimo> permanently set localization to my language
[22:19] <DJAnonimo> on reboot it always get back to en_US
[22:20] <histo> DJAnonimo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[22:20] <histo> DJAnonimo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[22:20] <dios_mio> do we still install stuff with "sudo apt-get install" in the latest ubuntu?
[22:20] <histo> dios_mio: sudo apt-get install pidgin
[22:20] <Boreeas> histo: Thanks
[22:20] <dios_mio> histo, ty
[22:21] <fpu> gthumb on the other hand doesn't do smooth transitions....oh well, we'll see if my client minds lack of them ;)
[22:21] <brightspark> Running Maverick Meerkat, the icons for power and network in the notification array do not change to reflect my current theme (though the icon for Power Management in the System menu does).  How do I fix this?
[22:21] <neersighted> This is what i had... Probaly wont work though http://pastie.org/2988266
[22:21] <histo> DJAnonimo: so basiclaly edit /etc/default/locale or use update-locale LANG=blahblah
[22:21] <Exxon> dios_mio, install it its the latest and even the old will really don't matter it works fine
[22:21] <neersighted> if you get my idea, but dont try it
[22:22] <neersighted> itll probally screw something up
[22:22] <neersighted> fpu: http://pastie.org/2988266 see if you understand what i mean
[22:22] <Akiva> snakes, I was buring an image to my cdrom, and when it was doing its checksum, I cancelled it, and now my cdrom drive will not mount
[22:23] <fpu> neersighted that's more or less what I originally wanted to do
[22:23] <neersighted> :p
[22:23] <neersighted> it wont run XD
[22:23] <fpu> except it gets harder, almost too hard when you add that every image must be shown
[22:23] <Akiva> I did a restart, but the cdrom still won't mount
[22:23] <fpu> before quitting
[22:23] <scwizard> when I try to install dovecot I get:
[22:23] <scwizard> dpkg: error processing dovecot-common (--configure):
[22:23] <scwizard> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[22:23] <fpu> and you don't know how much this "show" will take
[22:23] <Exxon> neersighted, ok.. give him
[22:23] <neersighted> yeah, you kinda have to guess the tim.
[22:23] <OerHeks> Akiva,  the cd is lost, try burn a blanc cd again and never cancel .
[22:24] <histo> Akiva: mount a different disc
[22:24] <neersighted> fpu: OH WAIT! there was a method to ask a process how far along it is. It was in one of those cp progress bar tutorials. *googles*
[22:24] <Exxon> neersighted, have a i5 speed good
[22:24] <neersighted> i5 speed good?
[22:24] <oCean> fpu, neersighted, #bash channel would be more appropriate place
[22:24] <histo> neersighted: the slide show does not end with geeqie
[22:24] <komatose> I need resolving the power management bug that causes my laptop to suspend/shutdown when the AC power is unplugged. I've had this issue with every laptop I've ever installed ubuntu on (at least a dozen?), it's hard to believe this bug still hasn't been fixed.
[22:24] <neersighted> okay!
[22:24] <neersighted> O_o
[22:24] <Akiva> OerHeks: its a rewritable cd, and I want to blank it...
[22:24] <neersighted> histo: what do you mean/
[22:25] <Boreeas> histo: Actually, that isn't exactly what I'm looking for. I want the actual data in memory
[22:25] <histo> komatose: check the power management settings in gnome for on battery and on ac
[22:25] <henk_> hi what was the dutch ubuntu chat?
[22:25] <scwizard> I can purge and reinstall and I still get the same error. I get some other warnings, "adduser: Warning: The home directory `/usr/lib/dovecot' does not belong to the user you are currently creating." and "hostname: Name or service not known", but I can't tell if they're blocking or not
[22:25] <oCean> henk_: #ubuntu-nl
[22:25] <henk_> thnx
[22:25] <histo> Boreeas: I'm pretty sure that's it
[22:25] <fpu> ocean: I think you're right, luckily topic of the script is over :)
[22:25] <neersighted> :p
[22:25] <oCean> :)
[22:25] <Akiva> but it says no disk available when I bring it up in brasero
[22:25] <fpu> I must say I'm pleasantly surprised by how active this channel is
[22:25] <komatose> histo, it's a bug. the settings are fine. ubuntu seems to think that my battery power is low with 1 minute left, even when the battery is adequately charged.
[22:25]  * fpu actually on Debian...
[22:26] <fpu> but #debian sucks
[22:26] <neersighted> Oh yeah, is there a paste manager that can upload to a paste site/ send a POST request
[22:26] <neersighted> lol fpu UBUNTU FTW!
[22:26] <oCean> neersighted: come on ...
[22:27] <Boreeas> histo, it's more looking like that:
[22:27] <Boreeas> Shared_Clean:          4 kB
[22:27] <Boreeas> Shared_Dirty:          0 kB
[22:27] <histo> Boreeas: try looking at /proc/<pid>maps or /proc/<pid>/mem
[22:27] <Boreeas> [...]
[22:27] <neersighted> anyone?
[22:27] <oCean> neersighted: what?
[22:27] <neersighted> A paste manager with uploads to paste sites/POST requests
[22:27] <histo> Boreeas: i'm trying to think of a better way
[22:27] <oCean> !pastebinit | neersighted
[22:28] <neersighted> ohhh
[22:28] <neersighted> shiny
[22:29] <sskalnik> shiny indeed
[22:29] <histo> Boreeas: ptrace could read it if you had an address that you got from map or smaps
[22:29] <DJAnonimo> histo: Thank You for the link!
[22:30] <fpu> I am going, thanks guys
[22:30] <neersighted> it works with xClip! thank you oCean
[22:30] <Boreeas> histo: Thanks, will try
[22:31] <Exxon> lucky guy :) neersighted , oCean
[22:31] <histo> Boreeas: or you can load the fmem kernel module and use dd if=/dev/mem of=/some/desitnation/file
[22:31] <histo> Boreeas: sorry if=/dev/fmem
[22:31] <histo> Boreeas: http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Linux_Memory_Analysis
[22:33] <monsterwizard> while ubunut boots it shows a horrible ubuntu screen
[22:33] <monsterwizard> is there anyway of just seeing the code
[22:34] <auronandace> !text | monsterwizard
[22:34] <monsterwizard> for example, when you press esc it shows the code
[22:34] <monsterwizard> :O
[22:34] <monsterwizard> thanks
[22:35] <neersighted> .msg nickserv ghost derpsighted 4eh@Rt*qes
[22:35] <neersighted> oops...
[22:35] <StepNjump> Could someone please help me to figure out where 53 free GB actually went? http://pastie.org/2988325
[22:35] <oCean> neersighted: yeah, might wanna change the pw now
[22:35] <bpietro> auronandace: where monsterwizard comes from? it's nice :)
[22:35] <neersighted> yep...
[22:36] <monsterwizard> what do you mean?
[22:36] <auronandace> neersighted: you really should do that outside a channel in case of mistakes (just like now)
[22:36] <neersighted> good point
[22:36] <monsterwizard> how about
[22:36] <Cheery> if I'd like to write an opengl application for ubuntu, what could I do?
[22:36] <auronandace> bpietro: sorry?
[22:36] <monsterwizard> before loading the GUI
[22:37] <monsterwizard> when I log in only a xterm loads
[22:37] <bpietro> never mind, bad question
[22:37] <monsterwizard> then I type a command then the gnome environment loads
[22:37] <monsterwizard> is that possible?
[22:38] <StepNjump> Could someone please help me to figure out where 53 free GB actually went? http://pastie.org/2988325 ... please look... Something is wrong!
[22:42] <guntbert> StepNjump: no need to repeat so quickly  - you don't show/say why you think that something is wrong
[22:42] <auronandace> StepNjump: what is the output of df -h?
[22:42] <webnet> what exactly are you asking?
[22:42] <webnet> well, how big was your hdd to start?
[22:43] <guntbert> !who | webnet
[22:44] <StepNjump> cd /media/528fe2d6-ab83-41e9-9c44-faa2f9dd6193
[22:44] <StepNjump> ooops sorry
[22:44] <webnet> !StepNjump: how bid was your hdd to start with?
[22:44] <|Long|> i bought a pci to esata card and it said support linux, but only show suse driver, can i still use it for ubuntu?
[22:45] <guntbert> webnet: without the "!"  :)
[22:45] <StepNjump> auronandace: http://pastie.org/2988375
[22:45] <Cheery> my other information sources stay quiet.. so I guess ubuntu doesn't have any take on development of graphic-heavy applications explicitly to ubuntu..
[22:45] <webnet> |Long|: you should be able to... google the model number and ubuntu after it that is sure to give you at least something
[22:46] <StepNjump> webnet, that partition is 106 GB
[22:47] <webnet> StepNjump: that all adds up to 52 g
[22:47] <Cheery> you think so much of others.. but leave thinking of yourself for others..
[22:48] <StepNjump> Oh I'm confused webnet. If you look at my first pastie.org, the home says 82 G I think and then when you look in the two profiles, it adds up to much less
[22:48] <oCean> StepNjump: especially in /home, there might be (large?) files in hidden directories (starting with a dot, like .VirtualBox)
[22:48] <StepNjump> Yes I know oCean but those should show up on the totals, no?
[22:49] <oCean> StepNjump: not in  du -sk *   but try   du -sk .*
[22:49] <StepNjump> oh really! Ocean.. didnt know that
[22:50] <|Long|> webnet, thanks
[22:50] <guntbert> StepNjump: or    cd ..   and then again    du -sk *
[22:50] <conntrack> That's funny. Each time I download a file the size is different
[22:50] <Johnsons> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[22:50] <webnet> |Long|: did you find what you were looking for?
[22:50] <StepNjump> Ah that's where it is... 54 GB in .encryptfs!
[22:51] <oCean> StepNjump: tadaa
[22:51] <StepNjump> Ah that's where it is... 54 GB in .encryptfs! oCean
[22:51] <imbezol> oCean: du -sk .* includes ..
[22:51] <StepNjump> ahah!!! ok!!!
[22:51] <imbezol> oCean: what you want is du -sk .
[22:51] <oCean> imbezol: no, that's just a total
[22:52] <webnet> WOW cant believe i didnt see that missing .
[22:52] <oCean> StepNjump: imbezol I usually use http://paste.ubuntu.com/764341/
[22:52] <imbezol> oCean: in what scenario do you care about the size of the parent directory?
[22:52] <oCean> imbezol: never
[22:52] <imbezol> oCean: exactly.. so why .*?
[22:53] <StepNjump> ok Ocean... I did that because another guy prefered pastie.org earlier on today
[22:53] <conntrack> I'm using ubuntu 10.04 but cannot view citibank with firefox
[22:53] <oCean> StepNjump: sorry.. did what?
[22:53] <webnet> oCean: Use pastie i think
[22:53] <oCean> imbezol: to find the size of the hidden directories, separately?
[22:54] <oCean> StepNjump: ah well, many pastebins can be used
[22:54] <StepNjump> oCean another guy who helped earlier asked me to use pastie.org so that's why... Ok I might drop off.. I realized that weechat seems to be mounted on the partition I am trying to salvage. I will umount the partition. If I drop, you will know why! (running on a live USB)
[22:55] <imbezol> oCean: guess that works if you want to wait for it to tally ..
[22:55] <oCean> yep
[22:56] <webnet> imbezol: well he was looking for where the memory was going so tallying hidden folders is kinda necessary
[22:56] <BernSamson> if I changed my dual boot ubuntu to the 64bit version, would I need to uninstall the 32bit version?
[22:56] <imbezol> du -sk .[a-zA-Z0-9]*
[22:56] <StepNjump> Ok nevermind, looks like it installed on another partition.. So I just learned that before installing new apps from a live USB or CD, I need to make sure everything is dismounted first!
[22:56] <daz__> hello
[22:56] <oCean> imbezol: well, that too - it was a quick paste :)
[22:56] <webnet> BernSamson: Nope. Install over it. It has its own partition, just write over it
[22:57] <webnet> BernSamson: Unless you are trying to save the 32bit install... that complicates things just a bit...
[22:57] <BernSamson> so just run Wubi again with the 64 bit iso...and nothing will really change ouside having the 64 bit?
[22:57] <webnet> hmmmmm...
[22:58] <guntbert> BernSamson: all data in the ubuntu installation will be lost
[22:58] <webnet> BernSamson: You may want to boot the install cd/dvd... i fear that wubi would resize the windows partion and create ANOTHER ubuntu install so you would have 2 ubuntu installs...
[22:59] <BernSamson> so I'd have to reinstall kvirc, chromium, flash object handler...and other misc updates
[22:59] <StepNjump> oCean, I guess there is no way to find out what's in this .encryptfs unless I find my passphrase eh?
[22:59] <webnet> BernSamson: Yes...
[22:59] <michael_> hi, im on 11.10 and I've installed apache2. I don't want apache to send its signautre so i put "ServerSignature Off" in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf and restarted apache. but it still sends its signature. I also checked if it gets overwritten in some vhost settings, but it does not. what else could be the problem?
[22:59] <webnet> BernSamson: Sadly its not possible (as i know) to change from 32 to 64 without a fresh install...
[23:00] <BernSamson> I could save my /home on ubuntu1, unistall it, and then run wubi with the 64bit iso
[23:00] <imbezol> michael_: did you edit the /etc/apache2/conf.d/security file?
[23:00] <jrib> michael_: did you « grep -R Signature /etc/apache2/ »?
[23:00] <imbezol> michael_: or put it in somewhere else?
[23:01] <michael_> i did not edit anything beside /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[23:01] <webnet> BernSamson: Possibly... depends on how you do it.... Boot to ubuntu and mount the windows file system and move your home folder over... than uninstall and use wubi
[23:01] <imbezol> michael_: like jrib says.. could be elsewhere.. do a 'grep -r -i serversig /etc/apache2/'
[23:01] <jrib> michael_: well you just got two big hints :)
[23:01] <BernSamson> webnet: would I have to worry about grub issues with that?
[23:01] <michael_> yeah indeed, I think I got it, thank you both very much!
[23:02] <osmosis> if I wanted to start making music, are there any good apps for ubuntu?
[23:02] <webnet> BernSamson: Maybe?...not entirely sure... let me find out really quick
[23:02] <conntrack> ha
[23:02] <Cheery> osmosis: what kind of music do you want to do?
[23:02] <webnet> osmosis: ardour is ok...
[23:03] <jmcantrell> network manager shows "device not ready" under wireless, but my wireless seems to be working. anyone know what my problem might be?
[23:03] <simon> jokosher is good for simple tracks
[23:03] <webnet> osmosis: BUT, others you can use are lmms, jokosher, audacity (More of a tweaker)... and a few others)
[23:04] <webnet> jmcantrell: is this a fresh install? or WAS it running fine and then stopped?
[23:04] <jmcantrell> webnet: fresh install
[23:05] <jmcantrell> webnet: my wireless worked fine in earlier versions of ubuntu
[23:05] <webnet> jmcantrell: what version are you?
[23:05] <webnet> 11.10?
[23:05] <jmcantrell> webnet: oneiric
[23:05] <webnet> jmcantrell: ok... by chance do you have an acer?
[23:06] <StepNjump> with an encryptfs, is there a way to get to the data with just the user password from the terminal or I really need the passphrase?
[23:06] <jmcantrell> webnet: it's an asus eee pc 1000he
[23:06] <michael__> !ping
[23:06] <jrib> !encrypt | StepNjump
[23:06] <jrib> StepNjump: I believe that should walk you through the process
[23:07] <webnet> jmcantrell: ok. lol. i have an acer and i had the same problem... mine was an issue with the new kernel 2.6.38, but that was the least of my problems... i had no display on my built in monitor with linux kernel after 2.6.35. lol
[23:08] <jmcantrell> webnet: yikes!
[23:08] <StepNjump> tnx jrib
[23:08] <jmcantrell> i'm surprised. i always thought of this little guy as a solid linux machine until now
[23:08] <webnet> jmcantrell: try googling your model number followed by wilreless driver ubuntu... its possible its some driver that used to be stock that wen proprietary :(
[23:09] <totesmuhgoats> hey guys, i am reading through man adduser and I am wondering. if i create a user with --ingroup someGroupHere will it still create a group for that user of the same name as the user?
[23:09] <jmcantrell> webnet: trust me, i've been googling for hours
[23:09] <webnet> jmcantrell: i was afraid of that... :(
[23:10] <webnet> totesmuhgoats: if you use: adduser [insertusernamehere]
[23:10] <webnet> totesmuhgoats: it SHOULD do what you want by default
[23:11] <osmosis> webnet, interesting. thanks. ill google some of those and take a look.
[23:11] <newstar> hi guys
[23:11] <osmosis> webnet, i want to mix ontop of someone elses tracks..so ill probably use audacity to import their track. Then maybe use one of the other apps to make my own sounds on top of it.
[23:11] <totesmuhgoats> webnet: well i need to create a user just for the purpose of connecting on samba and limiting what that user can access. I want that user to share a group with my normal user and in smb.conf i have placed some restrictions. So I don't need or want the user to have its own group or home directory
[23:12] <rich3> is it normal for right click to open a menu, then a click outside the menu to be ignored?
[23:12] <totesmuhgoats> or should i use the --system option
[23:13] <webnet> osmosis: yeah. thats the way to go if that is wht you are trying to do. Jokosher is good same. its sorta audacity but more of a daw with sound plugins... personally tho, i could never get the jokosher sources to build!
[23:14] <webnet> totesmuhgoats: wait are you trying to make it NOT be in a group of the same name, like add it to an existing group?
[23:14] <totesmuhgoats> webnet: yes
[23:15] <HNMP> Join #rus
[23:15] <webnet> totesmuhgoats: OHHHHHHH! sorry misunderstood you the first time. I do believe  --ingroup should work... let me try it real quick and see cause now im curious.
[23:16] <HNMP> Join #Russia
[23:16] <totesmuhgoats> webnet: no worries, I have a suspicion it will work, but since I don't fully understand users and groups yet I don't want to go around experimenting willy nilly
[23:16] <OerHeks> !ru | HNMP
[23:17] <webnet> BernSamson: you shouldnt have a problem with grub. A new grub file is established after the install by the installer based on the currently installed OSes. if you write over the 32 bit it should make a new bootloader file that has correct info.
[23:18] <neersighted> What was the command to choose your dm?
[23:18] <neersighted> sudo dpkg-reconfigure ???
[23:18] <dios_mio> my apt-get doesnt work.. it says "dpkg is corrupt" and i just installed ubuntu few hours ago.. all i did was probably cancel an installation in the middle.. what do i do?
[23:18] <webnet> BernSamson: In short answer, No you wont(Shouldnt) have problems with grub
[23:18] <neersighted> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm?
[23:19] <neersighted> BernSamson: Grub has a feature called OS-Prober, it should pick-up all your old os's
[23:19] <totesmuhgoats> webnet: i tested it, it was exactly what i was looking for
[23:19] <totesmuhgoats> thanks
[23:19] <kimp> Laptop hangs on boot up.  Last message is "starting save kernel messages".  Any ideas?
[23:20] <dios_mio> will "sudo apt-get clean" solve my problem? (dpkg corrupt)
[23:20] <webnet> totesmuhgoats: Yep mee to :D i was just about to send you the same :P glad it worked for you
[23:21] <totesmuhgoats> brb
[23:21] <webnet> kimp: how long does it hang?
[23:21] <Rushing> how do i page options with --help?
[23:21] <webnet> kimp: does it hang and then finish booting or does it hang and never boot?
[23:21] <kimp> webnet, a couple of minutes, then I turn it off.  Should I wait longer?
[23:21] <webnet> Rushing: Space Bar i think :)
[23:22] <Rushing> no, it just scrolls through them all
[23:22] <Jordan_U> Rushing: command 2>&1 | less
[23:22] <Rushing> so i only see the bottom options...
[23:22] <Rushing> please explain what those params do
[23:23] <Jordan_U> Rushing: Or, often better, man command.
[23:23] <webnet> kimp: idk. i  have had similar errors on several occasions, but i tweak the hell out of my systems to make them awesome and when i screw up, i scrap it and start over :D thank god for ubuntu 1 and all my docs safe :P
[23:24] <kimp> webnet, I can boot in recovery mode to the prompt.  What diagnostics should I be looking for?
[23:24] <webnet> kimp: did you recently install something new? or update?
[23:24] <sfopilot> how do I get the following to sort by the number in the filename,  I have tried to use sort -n with no success http://pastebin.com/DrFCDiHi
[23:24] <kimp> webnet, only just installed Ubuntu today.  Ran OK to start with, then failed driver install for graphics card.  Now problems.
[23:25] <webnet> kimp: OHHHHHH. what version 11.10 oneric?
[23:25] <kimp> webnet, yep, 11.10, 64
[23:26] <webnet> I had a VM image do that, xlet me look to see how i fixed that really quick brb
[23:26] <webnet> kimp: ^^ see my last msg
[23:26] <guilez> hello
[23:27] <kimp> thanks webnet
[23:28] <w30> Can someone help me go backwards? I have a exec file called startfuse and I want the deb package for it. How?
[23:29] <webnet> w30: google startfuse .deb
[23:30] <webnet> kimp: ok you said you can get to a recovery council right?
[23:30] <webnet> *console
[23:30] <kimp> webnet, thats right
[23:30] <webnet> wow that was a dumb typo. :P
[23:30] <kimp> webnet, that was an hiliarous typo
[23:31] <webnet> kimp: :P Its been a long day lmao
[23:31] <webnet> :D
[23:32] <kimp> webnet, I've logged in at the recovery consulate
[23:33] <webnet> kimp: :P LMAO!!! ok try startx and see if gnome runs or if you get the same error
[23:35] <w30> webnet, haha! google says Did you mean to search for: what .dip gives start fuse
[23:35] <webnet> kimp: do you see a login screen gui befor recovery console or do you log into a cli?
[23:35] <webnet> w30: haha WOW
[23:36] <w30> webnet, worse than ubottu
[23:37] <webnet> w30: im telling you go to google and type why do and let it load the suggestions and then delete it and type how to and do the same, people google some crazy stuff :P
[23:37] <kimp> webnet, tried startx.  got a heap of errors, then back to a prompt...  I'll pick through some errors...
[23:37] <w30> webnet, there should be a way for apt-get to find the deb
[23:38] <kimp> webnet, I log in to cli, by the way
[23:38] <webnet> kimp: perhaps there is a problem with X? it seems it isnt starting...
[23:38] <neersighted> Why must there be so many fonts to install with every new desktop? Is there anyway to skip those?
[23:39] <webnet> neersighted: sadly no...
[23:39] <kimp> webnet, could the problem with X be related to the video driver that stuffed up?
[23:39] <webnet> w30: it may be in the repositories? have you tried apt-get install?
[23:39] <neersighted> just like how empathy and gwibber uninstall gnome/lightdm if you remove theme
[23:39] <neersighted> T_T
[23:39] <webnet> ^^ ya! right?!
[23:40] <webnet> kimp. Oh yeah i forgot you said about the bad driver...
[23:40] <webnet> kimp: hmmmm. do you remember wht driver went bad?
[23:40] <Loshki> w30: from the looks of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb, it's in fusesmb (or used to be)...
[23:40] <kimp> webnet, just reading some log files...  It was an ATI driver, I think
[23:40] <neersighted> webnet: I *did* remove theme thought by deleting their indicator/desktop files
[23:41] <osmosis> webnet, whats a good synth or beat program to start with to make my own track?
[23:41] <dell> what ?
[23:41] <webnet> osmosis. haha... fl studio which sadly doesnt work on linux :( forces me to have a dual boot :'(((
[23:41] <webnet> ummmmmmm. ive been lookiing for some as well
[23:42] <webnet> let me send you a link really quick osmosis
[23:42] <osmosis> webnet, fruitty loops. i see.  I suppose I could do VirtualBox. Would be nice to say i did it all in ubuntu though...using ubutu apps
[23:43] <neersighted> Doesn't work in WINE?
[23:43] <webnet> neersighted: sadly no... :(
[23:43] <webnet> the registry entrys break and you are presented with error after error
[23:43] <webnet> :(((
[23:43] <neersighted> awww. i always loved how you could intrigrate windoze apps into ubuntu
[23:43] <webnet> osmosis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList
[23:43] <head_victim> !jrn9524
[23:44] <webnet> check there for native tools. that is ubuntu studio a multimedia studio ubuntu distro, and thats the tool list scroll past all the dependances
[23:44] <webnet> osmosis: ^^
[23:44] <w30> Loshki, ahhh.. thats why I couldn't find it. It's a script. OK, I know what to do now. Thanks for the tip
[23:44] <osmosis> webnet, ok
[23:45] <webnet> neersighted: yeah, i dont have a problem except with IE and fruity loops. i wish i didnt need ie but i do freelance web design and i HAVE to check in ie sins=ce its got such a "Special" rendering enginr :P
[23:46] <webnet> *since
[23:46] <neersighted> "Special Needs"
[23:46] <webnet> *engine
[23:46] <webnet> Hell yes. that goes for most MS products
[23:46] <neersighted> #ie should be forwarded to #specialized
[23:46] <webnet> :D hell yeah1
[23:47] <webnet> ok kimp, sorry to leave you waiting. i have ADD if you didnt notice :P
[23:47] <neersighted> Does Geany haw LaTeX support?
[23:47] <neersighted> *have
[23:47] <webnet> kimp: SHIT! ati is a pain, they are all about proprietary BS and red tape...
[23:47] <Resistance> !language | webnet
[23:47] <neersighted> !language | webnet
[23:47] <neersighted> derp
[23:47] <kimp> webnet, no problems.  Looking at the log files, I have a hunch it is the ATI driver.  what to do?
[23:47] <Resistance> neersighted:  you been ninja'd :P'
[23:48] <neersighted> yes i have
[23:48] <BernSamson> webnet: Thanks! I'm not 100% on how to install over 32bit, but I'm sure I'll figure it out
[23:48] <webnet> sorry sorry. :P i typed it without realizing :P
[23:48] <neersighted> !derp | netmind
[23:48] <neersighted> pp[s
[23:48] <neersighted> !derp | neersighted
[23:48] <neersighted> aww its gone...
[23:48] <webnet> Bernsamson: ok. like i said, use the disc and boot from it instead of wubi
[23:49] <neersighted> Guys, does Geany have LaTeX support?
[23:49] <webnet> neersighted: im not toally sure.. :/  lemme check
[23:49] <neersighted> thx, i need it for school.
[23:50] <MonkeyDust> BernSamson  wubi is not a real installation
[23:50] <enav> hello i need some help... i just tried to change the default msql datadir and the whole thing got screwed, i restored everithing to default but mysql still not working.... some help will be appreciated
[23:50] <datakid> hi, am looking for a pkg of mono 2.x for ubuntu 8.04.4 (Hardy) All my searches point to badgerports, but that doesn't seem to be working for hardy...any tips?
[23:50] <webnet> neersighted: here you go: download.geany.org/contrib/latex_snippets.conf
[23:50] <webnet> that makes it have latex support.
[23:50] <neersighted> oh thanks!
[23:51] <MonkeyDust> datakid  server?
[23:51] <webnet> put that in /home/[YourUser]/.geany
[23:51] <webnet> neersighted: ^^
[23:51] <datakid> MonkeyDust: yes
[23:51] <neersighted> <3
[23:52] <LostyJai> i have an iscsi question
[23:52] <LostyJai> so i run `iscsiadm -m discovery -t st -p xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx` to discover the devices on the server
[23:52] <MonkeyDust> !hardy
[23:52] <LostyJai> do i need to run `iscsiadm -m node` first?
[23:53] <webnet> you will have to restart geany if its already running neersighted
[23:53] <neersighted> kk
[23:53] <neersighted> i already did
[23:53] <datakid> MonkeyDust: so you have confirmed that support continues on the version of Hardy I have installed. Any tips on where to find updated mono packages?
[23:54] <MonkeyDust> datakid  http://badgerports.org/hardy.html
[23:54] <kimp> webnet, I'm going to reinstall ubuntu one last time.  I'll be more careful about installing the graphics driver this time
[23:54] <OerHeks> datakid, maybe this is any help > http://mono-project.com/OldReleases
[23:54] <datakid> MonkeyDust: yes, i've been there already - it doesn't seem to have updated the Mono in my system though...
[23:55] <tractor_> Hi all!
[23:55] <datakid> OerHeks: thanks
[23:56] <BernSamson> I think I'm gettin it
[23:56] <MonkeyDust> datakid  is this useful https://launchpad.net/~mono-ubuntu/+archive/ppa
[23:57] <BernSamson> means I gotta find another blank disc to write the 64 bit install on
[23:59] <datakid> actually, how can I find out which packages on my system are pinned


[07:40] <abhinav_debugger> hi........we just installed xchat..... its working in mine, but not in my friend's vaio laptop.. its not giving the channel selection option.........please help
[07:47] <DJones> abhinav_debugger: You should ask that in #ubuntu ratehr than here, this isn't a support channel, its just for administration of channels
[07:47] <DJones> Never mind, I see you've asked there
[13:37] <LordOfTime> anyone on the IRCC around?
[13:38] <AlanBell> yeah
[13:39] <LordOfTime> AlanBell: regarding the item i brought up which was turned to an action item during the last IRCC meeting, regarding the access lists, found another channel that whomever's working on that needs to fix
[13:39] <AlanBell> cool, which one?
[13:39] <LordOfTime> #ubuntu-server
[13:40] <LordOfTime> for +t
[13:40] <LordOfTime> 09:37] -ChanServ- 9<EMAIL_ADDRESS>+t [modified 1 year, 14 weeks, 2 days, 17:04:03 ago]
[13:40] <AlanBell> I think pici was going to to the ubuntu member mask thing
[13:40] <AlanBell> #ubuntu-meeting too probably
[13:40] <LordOfTime> that i think was fixed
[13:40] <LordOfTime> i checked that day
[13:40] <LordOfTime> -irc was also fixed, so...
[13:40] <LordOfTime> *rechecks*
[13:40] <AlanBell> ok
[13:40] <Pici> I didn't check all the channels.
[13:41] <LordOfTime> -irc: [09:40] -ChanServ- 8<EMAIL_ADDRESS>       +Aiotv [modified 3 days, 18:21:42 ago];  -meeting still needs fixing :)
[13:41]  * LordOfTime realizes he left a script running that is eating up 45% of his site's production server's memory, runs off to fix it
[16:24] <TheLordOfTime> eh?
[16:25] <TheLordOfTime> sorry wrong channel
[17:06] <MohamedAlaa98> Hi :)
[17:08] <iDLEoNE> hello MohamedAlaa98
[17:09] <MohamedAlaa98> hello iDLEoNE
[17:09] <MohamedAlaa98> I've just received ubuntu membership and I want to have the ubuntu cloak, thanks:)
[17:09] <iDLEoNE> MohamedAlaa98: Could you please give us your launchpad url
[17:10] <MohamedAlaa98> https://launchpad.net/~m-alaa8
[17:10] <iDLEoNE> MohamedAlaa98: C ongrats and welcome.
[17:11] <MohamedAlaa98> iDLEoNE: thank you :)
[17:11] <iDLEoNE> IRCC we got a new member wanting a project cloak
[17:11] <iDLEoNE> be patient and someone will get to it soon :)
[17:11]  * FUCHS pokes AlanBell, this time more gentle
[17:11]  * jussi pokes FUCHS.... hard... :P
[17:12]  * iDLEoNE pushes jussi into FUCHS who falls onto AlanBell
[17:12] <MohamedAlaa98> iDLEoNE: ok :)
[17:12]  * jussi signals to his ally Pici
[17:12]  * jussi eyes funkyHat
[17:12] <jussi> and jumps on Tm_T :D
[17:13]  * iDLEoNE takes the beer away from topyli
[17:13]  * Pici oggles
[17:13] <FUCHS> Pici: I'd be here
[17:13] <FUCHS> just as a sidenote.
[17:13] <Pici> FUCHS: helloo
[17:14] <FUCHS> yes, hi
[17:14] <Pici> Just checked stats p actually ;)
[17:14] <FUCHS> good Pici  *gives pony*
[17:14] <Pici> FUCHS: Could you please grant MohamedAlaa98 a cloak: ubuntu/member/mohamedalaa98
[17:14] <iDLEoNE> woohooo
[17:14] <FUCHS> there you go. Congratulations, MohamedAlaa98 :)
[17:14] <iDLEoNE> Congrats again!
[17:14] <Pici> MohamedAlaa98: Congrats :)
[17:15] <MohamedAlaa98> FUCHS: thank you very much :)
[17:15] <MohamedAlaa98> Pici: thank you :)
[17:16] <iDLEoNE> not to be pedantic but I believe that Pici granted the cloak and FUCHS applied it. MohamedAlaa98 you earned it :)
[17:16] <MohamedAlaa98> thank you all :)


[11:56] <head_victim> sagaci: was it the 23/24 of June you were in Sydney?
[11:56] <sagaci> yup
[11:56] <head_victim> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays
[11:56] <head_victim> We could line up the open days with that?
[11:58] <sagaci> yeah I thought about doing the day then but I've just lent my router, (and therefore life away from home), to someone on satellite internet getting an avg of 15kB/sec
[11:58] <sagaci> not that it hinges on having internet access but I'd rather have it for that kind of event
[11:59] <head_victim> We found that no one really needed the internet, most people had their own dongles or paired with their mobiles.
[12:01] <sagaci> yeah well either way, it's the kind of situation where I'm only there for a couple of days and unless someone from around, err, Sydney can secure a venue within the next couple of weeks, I'd rather postpone it until July holidays when I know I'll have more time and the 4G goodness
[12:02] <head_victim> Sounds fair, that June date may be pushing it for time.
[12:02] <head_victim> So when are uni holidays?
[12:02] <sagaci> not sure but school holidays are the very end of June to mid-July
[12:03] <sagaci> that usually syncs with uni timetables
[12:04] <jaddi27> i finish uni around the 24th june
[12:07] <head_victim> jaddi27: cool just looked up qld schools and they finish on the 22nd of June
[12:08] <head_victim> Start back 9th of July
[12:08] <jaddi27> yep, that sounds right
[12:08] <jaddi27> UQ has holidays from then for four weeks, i think it is
[12:09] <sagaci> I'm leaning toward holding a local exhibition/open events on ubuntu rather than a Sydney open day, just because I can secure the event and it's, well, local
[12:09] <head_victim> sagaci: sounds fair, feel free to chime in on the ML so it's not all me talking to myself ;)
[12:09] <head_victim> As much as I like the sound of my own voice :D


[06:40] <dholbach> good morning
[09:05] <Havok_Novak> Français ?
[09:05] <benonsoftware> czajkowski: Hi, I'm sorry but I won't be able to send the email until the weekend
[09:06] <czajkowski> ah ok
[09:06] <czajkowski> well we'll most liekly have taken care of the issue by then
[09:06] <benonsoftware> Sorry about that
[09:06] <benonsoftware> czajkowski: Ah, if not just ping me :D
[09:07] <czajkowski> cheers
[09:11] <dholbach> salut Havok_Novak - on parle Anglais ici, mais en #ubuntu-fr il y a des gens qui peut repondre en Français
[09:26] <Havok_Novak> dholbach : mais comment fait-on pour discuter avec les traducteurs francophones d’Ubuntu ?
[09:26] <YoBoY> Havok_Novak: salut, viens sur #ubuntu-fr-asso je te fais nu topo ;)
[09:26] <Havok_Novak> YoBoY : j’y suis. Merci par avance. ;)
[09:29] <dholbach> YoBoY, merci beaucoup
[09:29] <YoBoY> dholbach: de rien :)
[09:30] <YoBoY> i'm here for that kind of requests ;)
[10:57] <Pendulum> YoBoY: makes me wish I could remember more French :) (I can still read it well, but ask me to write or speak and it's not so good)
[11:05] <Tm_T> czajkowski: hi, you around?
[11:06] <YoBoY> Pendulum: you need to practice. Nothing better than a trip in France for that :)
[11:06] <czajkowski> Tm_T: I am
[11:07] <Pendulum> YoBoY: If someone wants to sponsor me to go to France, I will go. Otherwise I cannot afford. Also, would have to get over my fear of speaking with native speakers.
[11:07] <Tm_T> czajkowski: great, I have forgotten what's the process of renewing approved loco status
[11:07] <Tm_T> ours seems to be expiring very soon http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-fi
[11:09] <czajkowski> Tm_T: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamApprovalGuidelines
[11:09] <Tm_T> thanks
[11:09] <czajkowski> np
[11:10] <Tm_T> so basicly there will be bug report for our team, and for that we will act?
[11:11] <czajkowski> Tm_T: when are you due to expire ?
[11:11] <Tm_T> next sunday
[11:11] <YoBoY> Pendulum: Like I say sometimes, we need an uds in France :p
[11:11] <Tm_T> so 22.4.
[11:11] <Tm_T> I haven't got any alerts myself so forgot this while focusing on organising events
[11:11] <czajkowski> Tm_T: one was created back in november
[11:11] <czajkowski> let me pm you
[11:12] <Tm_T> thanks
[14:58] <benvei> czajkowski, are you here?
[15:03] <czajkowski> benvei: sorry working
[15:03] <benvei> czajkowski, okay, please PM me when you are home ;)
[15:03] <czajkowski> huats: SergioMeneses greg-g itnet7 ping
[15:03] <czajkowski> benvei: there are other members of the loco council about
[15:36] <cprofitt> lunch time... red beans and rice!
[15:36]  * mhall119 is jealous
[15:36] <cprofitt> I am jealous... you got a catoon of yourself :-)
[15:36] <r2d2rogers> I'm in Lousisiana, and I'm having chili and rice for lunch...
[15:37] <cprofitt> r2d2rogers: nice!
[15:37] <mhall119> cprofitt: okay yeah, that is pretty cool, I admit
[15:37] <cprofitt> mhall119: what does he have you holding?
[15:37]  * r2d2rogers isn't from Louisiana, as evinced by my inability to spell the state name corretly ;)
[15:42] <cprofitt> no worries here r2d2rogers
[15:43] <r2d2rogers> you have me watching the clock for lunch time now... I'm glad I define that as anytime after 11am
[15:44] <cprofitt> I usually eat at 11:30 since I start at 7:30
[16:22] <locodir-user> hola
[16:24] <SergioMeneses> locodir-user, hola


[05:45] -queuebot:#edubuntu- New binary: cloud-initramfs-tools [amd64] (xenial-proposed/main) [0.27ubuntu1.5] (edubuntu, ubuntu-server)


[02:16] <ember> hey
[02:16] <ember> why :CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PROCFS was removed on -11?
[03:08] <gmatht> I am trying to package compcache. Control.modules.in does not seem to be used by debuild. Am I correct in assuming that control.modules.in is only used when users compile there own modules using the module assistant?
[04:45] <gmatht> Also, is there a recommended way of overriding "uname -r" in upstream modules?
[04:45] <gmatht> adding a custom path with custom uname binary, or just patch the upstream source?
[07:38] <kraut> moin
[08:07] <Kano> hi, could somebody revert
[08:07] <Kano> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb82da6120f7a08405b314377750b17576802c56
[08:07] <Kano> using sound off is no good
[08:08] <Kano> not only "standard" alsa modules are affected also other modules which rely on alsa as build dep
[08:08] <Kano> like the video ones you see which are removed too
[08:55] <amitk> Kano: that commit will stay, we will move the video ones to LUM.
[08:55] <Kano> but there are other external modules like em8300 which requrie sound
[08:56] <amitk> Kano: rtg just pushed some changes that will build headers for LUM, so you should be able to compile these external modules against those headers
[08:57] <Kano> then you can not simply use m-a a-i em8300?
[08:58] <amitk> the headers will be searched for in order of preference - LBM --> LUM --> Kernel
[08:58] <amitk> I am not an expert on m-a
[09:01] <Kano> well just try it
[09:02] <amitk> Kano: we will, once the move to split headers is complete :)
[13:03] <jakeb_> good morning
[14:16] <BenC> Good morning kernel ppl
[14:16] <Nafallo> good day BenC :-)
[14:17] <Nafallo> BenC: how are things?
[14:17] <smb> Good morning
[14:17] <zul> morning BenC
[14:18]  * BenC is just getting his first coffee down, so other than "good morning", he is not able to communicate
[14:18] <zul> yuck..
[14:19] <Nafallo> lol
[14:23] <BenC> kylem: hey
[14:23] <kylem> aloha.
[14:41] <tseliot> BenC: have you received dholbach's email on EnvyNG?
[14:59] <BenC> tseliot: yeah, but haven't had a chance to review things yet
[15:01] <tseliot> BenC: no problem
[15:11] <kagou> Hi
[15:12] <kagou> trying to finf why my Right CTRL key don't work, i'v rebooted my Hardy system on recovery shell (root) to eliminate xorg problem. And i can say that Right Ctrl+C don't work here too
[15:12] <kagou> i suspect a kernel problem
[15:12] <kagou> any ideas or opinions ?
[15:14] <BenC> kagou: does Left ^C work?
[15:14] <kagou> i'v open Bug #198759 but now i'm going to assign it to kernel
[15:14] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 198759 in xkeyboard-config "Right CTRL don't work" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198759
[15:14] <kagou> BenC, yes
[15:14] <BenC> kagou: I seriously doubt kernel then
[15:16] <BenC> kagou: run showkey...if it notices you pressing right ctrl, then it isn't kernel
[15:17] <kagou> for left ctrl :
[15:17] <kagou> 0x9C
[15:17] <kagou> 0x1d
[15:17] <kagou> pressed and left
[15:17] <kagou> for right ctrl :
[15:17] <kagou> 0x61
[15:17] <BenC> I show 0x9d 0x1d for mine
[15:18] <kagou> 0x61 0x61 0x61 0x61 0x61 0x61 0x61
[15:18] <BenC> For left, I show 0x61 0xe1
[15:18] <kagou> benc same here
[15:19] <BenC> kagou: then something has borked your right ctrl key mapping, if it shows 0x9c and not 0x9d
[15:19] <BenC> kagou: did it ever work right? Does it work right from a livecd?
[15:19] <BenC> err...wait
[15:19] <kagou> right ctrl don't work since ...  a week
[15:19] <BenC> your right ctrl key matches my right ctrl key
[15:20] <kagou> i install fresh daily iso every 2 days
[15:20] <kagou> 0x1d 0xe1 for right ctrl
[15:20] <kagou> but right ctrl+C don't work
[15:21] <BenC> so the key mappings match...which means it isn't the kernel (those are raw key codes from the kernel)
[15:22] <kagou> Ok i understand. As i'am in recovery mode, just a root shell (no xorg etc.)
[15:22] <BenC> kagou: does it work from the livecd (as opposed to your installed system)?
[15:23] <kagou> i''v reboot mu notebook
[15:24] <kagou> i use 20080305.2 daily-live-i386
[15:29] <kagou> BenC, here, under Gutsy i have 0x61 0xe1 for right ctrl
[15:30] <BenC> kagou: is that a gutsy livecd, or gutsy kernel with hardy userspace?
[15:30] <kagou> under gnome-terminal right ctrl+C works :/
[15:30] <kagou> On Hardy live, under gnome-terminal right ctrl+C works :/
[15:31] <BenC> kagou: ok, if it works under livecd, it isn't the kernel
[15:31] <kagou> BenC, indeed
[15:32] <BenC> kagou: try creating a new user, login as them, and see if it works there
[15:32] <BenC> if so, it's some local config in your homedir
[15:32] <kagou> thank you.
[15:32] <BenC> kagou: I assume you keep your homedir on these fresh installs?
[15:33] <kagou> no
[15:33] <BenC> kagou: Ok...the new user thing should help you out in tracking it down
[15:39] <kagou> under Hardy live gnome-terminal Right ctrl+C work, not under hardy installed. Under Gutsy recovery root shell right ctrl+C work, not under hardy recovery root shell
[15:40] <BenC> kagou: hmm...note that in the bug report
[15:40] <BenC> kagou: not sure where to assign it though
[15:40] <kagou> it's noted
[15:42] <kagou> what a strange bug
[15:53] <kagou> thank you BenC. Best regards
[16:15] <hischild> i've been redirected here with a problem. Ubuntu doesn't seem to be able to recognize my second core. cpuinfo returns http://pastebin.com/f510a2e53
[16:17] <tjaalton> hischild: what does 'uname -r' say?
[16:17] <hischild> tjaalton, Linux hc 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[16:17] <hischild> oh wait
[16:17] <hischild> that's -a
[16:17] <tjaalton> nm
[16:18] <tjaalton> it would have revealed if you had -386 kernel
[16:18] <hischild> :-)
[16:18] <tjaalton> I don't know what's wrong then..
[16:19] <hischild> :(
[16:19] <hischild> the wierd thing is that on a previous install of ubuntu it recognized it just fine
[16:19] <hischild> unless ... does acpi=off change anything related to this?
[16:22] <abogani> hischild: What 'cat /proc/cmdline' say?
[16:22] <hischild> abogani,  root=UUID=902c64c2-ffee-4902-a356-e3d705035c10 ro quiet splash acpi=off nmi_watchdog=0
[16:23] <abogani> hischild: What are the reasons for last two options?
[16:24] <hischild> abogani,  nmi_watchdog is because vbox wouldn't load properly without that option (during install i was told to add that option), the acpi=off is because my pc won't boot properly without it. If i leave that off it will reboot or freeze as soon as it hits gdm.
[16:29] <hischild> acpi=off only took about 10 hours to figure out
[16:29] <abogani> hischild: Please try this: reboot and in grub menu cut out "quiet splash acpi=off nmi_watchdog=0". Select recovery mode. When you have in front a prompt execute cat /proc/cpuinfo and report us.
[16:30] <hischild> abogani, isn't that the same as just selecting recovery mode? as that one only has "single" added to it
[16:31] <abogani> hischild: I can't know if you have added these options manually. :-)
[16:32] <abogani> only single is perfect
[16:33] <hischild> alright i'll do that :-) back in a few min
[16:35] <johanbr> cking: About bug 124797 that you said was a HAL bug, I don't think that's right. On recent kernels, at least on my Inspiron 1420, the cpufreq directory for core 1 simply disappears. I don't think that's caused by HAL.
[16:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 124797 in linux-source-2.6.22 "CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor applet on dual-core doesn't work after resume" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124797
[16:36] <gj_schouten> Hey someone knows how to make my hp zd8000 laptop less noisy and less heating using ubuntu hardy???? suggestions for using APM instead of ACPI and maybe powersaved instead of apmd????
[16:38] <cking> johanbr: Hi, I think there are two issues here:
[16:39] <cking> 1. The suspend/resume cycle does not restore the governor values properly,
[16:39] <hischild> abogani, alright i'm back ... yet to no avail, it hasn't changed. Gimme a sec while i pastebin it
[16:39] <cking> 2. The missing cpufreq - which I will investigate further.
[16:39] <hischild> abogani, http://pastebin.com/f447957ee
[16:41] <johanbr> cking: Right. Thank you. Should anything be done launchpad-wise? (more info, file a new bug, reopen the old one, ...)
[16:42] <cking> johanbr: I think open a new one, as it is quite different from the one reported at the start of the bug report.
[16:42] <NthDegree> According to the 8.04a6 announcement the kernel now has a memory protection which randomises PIEs - can someone explain or elaborate on this as to what patching or technology is used for this?
[16:42] <gj_schouten> anyone knows whats better when it comes to cpu overheating fan control using ubuntu on a hp zd8000 notebook??? acpi or apm and which daemons????
[16:42] <Solarion> so I'm rolling my own kernel, and the /lib/modules/<kernel> directory is *huge* (well over several hundred MB) which runs me out of space; any idea why it's so huge?
[16:43] <Solarion> by comparison, 2.6.24-11-generic is 112MB (the self-rolld kernel takes up well over 320MB)
[16:43] <cking> johanbr: ..you can also refer to 124797 as background information.  I also suggest sending the usual dmesg information etc.. as required on bug reports
[16:44] <BenC> NthDegree: it's been in the kernel for awhile, but you need to compile programs with the correct compiler options to make use of it
[16:44] <BenC> Solarion: because you have CONFIG_DEBUG enabled, and we strip our modules after compile
[16:44] <Solarion> ah
[16:44] <Solarion> that might do it.  :)
[16:44] <Solarion> is debug enabled by default?
[16:45] <BenC> Solarion: find -name \*.ko | xargs strip
[16:45] <BenC> do that before make install
[16:45] <BenC> Solarion: we do it by default in our builds so we can get a vmlinux with debug symbols for linux-debug pkgs
[16:45] <Solarion> BenC: I'm using the debian scripts to make this happen; what do I need to poke?
[16:45] <BenC> Solarion: you mean make-kpkg?
[16:45] <Solarion> yes
[16:46] <BenC> can't help ya there...we don't use that for our builds
[16:46] <BenC> maybe make-kpkg build, then the strip command I showed you, then make-kpkg binary
[16:46] <BenC> or something similar
[16:46] <Solarion> how about using debian/rules then?
[16:46] <johanbr> cking: Alright. There's one bug open that already has the necessary information (bug #183033) and seems a better fit for the "cpufreq missing" issue. If you could have a look at that, it'd be much appreciated.
[16:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 183033 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Intel Core 2 Duo - Resume from suspend, CPU Frequency Scaling is gone on CPU1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183033
[16:46]  * Solarion is going off of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[16:46] <BenC> Solarion: wiki page in topic has info on that
[16:47] <Solarion> thanks
[16:47] <Solarion> building a kernel is easy if you blissfully ignore the distro, but I'm trying to do things The Right Way for a change
[16:47] <cking> johnabr: will do - no problem at all
[16:48] <NthDegree> BenC: this question may be OT but what compiler options does Hardy now use?
[16:50] <abogani> hischild: Mmmmm You should check you cpu: 1) It don't have k8 flag 2) It don't have svm flag 3) have up that meaning "SMP kernel over UniProcessor"
[16:51] <hischild> abogani, you're getting a little bit over my head with the technical terms .... what should / can i do?
[16:53] <abogani> hischild:  Seems to me that this cpu isn't cpu the say to be... :-)
[16:53] <BenC> NthDegree: no idea what userspace is doing...#ubuntu-devel might be better to ask
[16:54] <hischild> abogani, i'm sure this is indeed an AMD Athlon 3800+ X2 ... it's always been this one ... it's specifically the one i bought ....
[16:54] <abogani> hischild: Joke apart: try to update BIOS. I don't have other advice. Sorry.
[16:54] <hischild> :P
[16:54] <hischild> abogani, right :(
[16:56] <abogani> hischild: just curious do you already tried with Hardy live?
[16:56] <hischild> abogani, well tbh i'm more likely to go and try hardy then to flash my bios ...
[16:56] <hischild> but ... it used to work well in the past ... that's why i'm wondered
[16:56] <gj_schouten> anyone knows whats better when it comes to cpu overheating fan control using ubuntu on a hp zd8000 notebook??? acpi or apm and which daemons????
[16:57] <abogani> Ok.
[16:57] <abogani> tbh???
[16:57] <abogani> :-?
[16:57] <hischild> abogani, as soon as my laptop is running smoothly (missing a shitload of drivers ... have to use xp on it :( ) i'm goin to try hardy again
[16:57] <hischild> tbh=to be honest
[16:58] <abogani> Thanks. I'm not know IRC slang at all. :)
[16:58] <hischild> abogani, no problem :-)
[17:04] <Solarion> why would debian/rules updateconfigs say 'No rule to make target updateconfigs'?
[17:05] <BenC> Solarion: because you don't have our git tree installed
[17:05] <Solarion> it requires the git tree?
[17:05] <BenC> Solarion: the linux-source pkg doesn't include the build scripts
[17:05] <Solarion> ah
[17:06] <Solarion> that's not at all clear from the wiki page
[17:06] <Solarion> so, I should really be building against the git tree?
[17:10] <soren> I need some help with git. I'm trying to merge some of the virtio stuff from Linus' 2.6.25 tree. The virtio stuff we have in the kernel is based off of 2.6.24 with some changes from another git tree on top of it. To simplify the review for Linus, the patches were redone into more logical hunks, so even cherry-picking won't do. What would you do in such a situation? Rewind the patches we have locally (to get back to a clean 2.6.24) and then cherry-