[17:38] <IdleOne> fission6: change liblame0 and liblame-dev to libtwolame0 and libtwolame0-dev
[17:38] <coz_> jack5463,  one thing   when addressing someone here type the first 2 or 3 letters of their name and hit tab to complete it...this way they will be allerted
[17:38] <candy> how to extract uif file?
[17:38] <om26er> !who | jack5463
[17:38] <fission6> IdleOne: i will try, and report back thanks!
[17:39] <IdleOne> om26er: he did specify who :)
[17:39] <coz_> jack5463,  ok   right now   go ahead and insert the dvd
[17:39] <coz_> jack5463,  see if totem will play it
[17:39] <om26er> IdleOne, ubottu makes it official
[17:39] <om26er> :)
[17:39] <IdleOne> lol, backward reasoning, gotta love it
[17:39] <okc> nothing, om26er. all types of video and audio files are playing in my system. sound is not there.
[17:40] <AndreasS> okc, type alsamixer in a terminal
[17:41] <AndreasS> okc, see if some channels are muted, unmute them with 'm'
[17:41] <pablito> #ubuntu -it
[17:41] <thefluxster> Work requires Windows machines/apps. I use Ubuntu on my laptop.  I usually RDP to an XP machine but recently tried RDP to a Win 7 machine instead for testing. Responsiveness was VERY slow compared to the XP machine. I was using the same Terminal Server Client settings for both, just a different IP.  Any thoughts or possible solutions?  I'm hoping others have seen/solved this problem...
[17:41] <AndreasS> okc, and maybe increase volume with the up arrow
[17:41] <IdleOne> pablito: /join #ubuntu-it
[17:41] <okc> Andreas
[17:42] <jack5463> coz_, perfect! it's plays... only took two days to work that problem out.
[17:42] <cisco> does anyone know how to get the ipodtouch to work with 9.10 i'm a noob and having problems
[17:42] <coz_> jack5463,  very cool :)
[17:42] <pablito> grazie
[17:42] <IdleOne> prego
[17:42] <okc> AndreasS. i did all but in vain. are there any packages to be installed?
[17:42] <jellow> what i do with a Subversion link?
[17:43] <coz_> jellow,   show me the link
[17:43] <deadrabbit> thefulxster: one problem could be the Win 7 machine running aero, which uses DirectX, could be casuing you problems. Try disabling aero effect on the windows machine and see if it helps
[17:43] <jellow> coz_: svn co https://despotify.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/despotify despotify
[17:43] <coz_> jellow,   ok make sure you have subversion installed   sudo apt-get install subversion
[17:43] <thefluxster> good point. I was hoping the RDP session would turn that stuff down a bit.
[17:43] <S3CURiTy> anyway to change the ubuntu 9.10 login screen ppl ?
[17:43] <thefluxster> guess I can't be so expectant.  :)
[17:44] <coz_> jellow,   then open a terminal ....    cd  Desktop..... then put that link into the terminal and it should download the source package
[17:44] <eventi> How can I find out when php 5.3 will be officially supported
[17:44] <noric> command line question:   > is to 2>  as   |  is to ???    how do I pipe stderr??
[17:45] <suman_> om26er, hey my partition issue and camera issue both solved
[17:45] <cisco> okc i had same prob try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8441713 it worked for me
[17:45] <LuuCiia> Hola!
[17:45] <LuksPartition> LuuCiia: hola
[17:45] <LuuCiia> Algun español?
[17:45] <jellow> coz_: ok thanks
[17:45] <suman_> om26er, but there is something more grave issue''
[17:45] <om26er> suman_, great:)
[17:45] <coz_> jellow,  ok
[17:45] <LuksPartition> LuuCiia: en #ubuntu-es
[17:45] <LuuCiia> Speak spanish?
[17:45] <om26er> suman_, yes state it
[17:45] <Keller> is there x64 lubuntu version?
[17:46] <om26er> !es | LuuCiia
[17:46] <LuksPartition> LuuCiia: si, espanol en #ubuntu-es
[17:46] <deadrabbit> anyone here ever experienced 9.04 locking up randomly, to the point of having to press the restart button on the computer? It is very sporadic sometimes 3-4 a day sometimes nothing for days
[17:46] <candy> how to extract uif file
[17:46] <candy> anybody help???
[17:46] <LuksPartition> deadrabbit: have you tried running memtest ?
[17:46] <eventi> How can I find out when php 5.3 will be officially supported?
[17:47] <noric> command line question:   > is to 2>  as   |  is to ???    how do I pipe stderr??
[17:47] <suman_> my keyboard is typing by itself and it hangs all the program wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[17:47] <om26er> suman_, tried another keyboard?
[17:47] <IdleOne> candy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4608511&postcount=4
[17:48] <suman_> om26er, twhis is my lawptop
[17:48] <eventi> noric: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-06/msg00772.html
[17:48] <cisco> has anyone gotten their ipod touch to work with 9.10
[17:48] <om26er> suman_, when did it started happening?
[17:48] <jMyles> I want to make a LiveCD (or USB) that installs Ubuntu and a bunch of other packages - how can I do this?
[17:48]  * om26er thinks thats a lyrics
[17:48] <thefluxster> suman_ have you tried an external keyboard (USB) to see if that helps?
[17:49] <S3CURiTy> eventi, php 5.3 is officially release
[17:49] <thefluxster> suman: any recent beverage spills?  :)
[17:49] <suman_> om26er,  srry laptop andw it was evwe'ww
[17:49] <noric> eventi: ty
[17:49] <I_Am> hey there is a store that charges 40 bucks for ubuntu, is this ok?
[17:49] <Guest64051> :)
[17:49] <thefluxster> I_Am: for a support contract?
[17:49] <Guest64051> wow i am guest
[17:50] <LuksPartition> I_Am: what are they charging for cd-s ?
[17:50] <j_ack> deadrabbit: laptop,Desktop?
[17:50] <I_Am> no just to install it
[17:50] <llutz> I_Am: why not? if they find people paying it...
[17:50] <LuksPartition> I_Am: yea cause ubuntu is free software and they are charging a fee to install it, its a service,
[17:50] <Guest64051> in my opinion no because they ship ubuntu for free
[17:50] <IdleOne> I_Am: yes.
[17:50] <eventi> S3CURiTy - it's not in 9.10 - is it in the next release?
[17:50] <thefluxster> I_Am: or possibly for support.
[17:50] <I_Am> they just charge for the disk
[17:50] <wildc4rd> evening all
[17:50] <om26er> I_Am, if you have any problem installing ubuntu there are guides all over that internet they are easy and free
[17:51] <suman_> wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwi amw not ablew twow rite
[17:51] <thefluxster> I_Am: so, basically, they can justify charging for one of the following: media, support, or services (install/configure).
[17:51] <nh2> I compiled compat-wireless and it does not fix my problem. How can I check which driver version the system is using?
[17:51] <suman_> wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwplwease help this was fine till evewning
[17:51] <I_Am> 40 bucks is a lot for a cd-r
[17:51] <thefluxster> I_Am: for the OS itself, probably not.
[17:51] <LuksPartition> suman_: try unsticking ur W key buddy
[17:51] <S3CURiTy> eventi, Ubuntu will not officially adopt PHP 5.3 until April,
[17:52] <suman_> what is that?
[17:52] <LuksPartition> nm
[17:52] <deadrabbit> j_ack: it is a desktop, i am running it as a media server. i have been searching the syslog and kern.log but can not find anything
[17:52] <suman_> LuksPartition, what is that
[17:52] <ekim> I_Am, sounds like the 40 bucks is for the cd and to install it..as someone said, it is a service.
[17:52] <spackest> I am using the ubuntu eucalyptus server and am wondering how to go get images through a proxy.  I have looked and can't find the setting anywhere
[17:52] <eventi> thanks S3CURiTy - April, right?
[17:53] <LuksPartition> suman_: looks like you figured it out all by your self :-D
[17:53] <suman_> om26er, this started in eve
[17:53] <IdleOne> suman_: seems like it is resolved now
[17:53] <suman_> wwno this stops and starts by itself
[17:53] <LuksPartition> troll
[17:53] <S3CURiTy> yeah this what i know eventi
[17:53] <eventi> thanks S3CURiTy
[17:53] <S3CURiTy> np
[17:54] <suman_> wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[17:54] <suman_> wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[17:54] <FloodBot4> suman_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:54] <j_ack> deadrabbit: are the hardware clean (no dust on cooler i.E.) Maybe it is a problem with temperture…
[17:54] <om26er> suman_, its your harware problem
[17:54] <FiremanEd> !troll > suman_
[17:54] <candy> IdleOne, thx
[17:54] <nemo> FWIW, I figured out what my weird network connections were
[17:54] <om26er> suman_, try /part
[17:54] <IdleOne> candy: welcome :)
[17:54] <nemo> *after* having gotten curious enough to gdb to gvfsd-http and dump all its memory :)
[17:55] <eventi> how does one /ignore people talking to suman_ ?
[17:55] <deadrabbit> j_ack : everything is clean, I clean out all 3 of my computers weekly.
[17:55] <macman_> guys how do i get a list of command from the ubottu bot ?
[17:55] <nemo> they were to http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/terminal-q/dice.gif and http://school.discoveryeducation.com/clipart/images/gamespinner4c.gif which I had opened in GIMP when doing a quick mockup image
[17:55] <Myrtti> suman_: clean your keyboard?
[17:55] <McL0VIN> 'firefox& will show on my x windows but it hungs as soon as it starts ....any suggestions
[17:55] <macman_> !helpk
[17:55] <bastid_raZor> !factoid > macman_
[17:55] <macman_> err
[17:55] <IdleOne> !bot > macman_
[17:55] <nemo> so. apparently those connections were just left lying around. in case I needed 'em I guess
[17:56] <spackest> anyone using uec?
[17:56] <genii-around> spackest: Perhaps enquire in #ubuntu-server
[17:57] <slickvic171> hey anybody here know a good torrent site
[17:57] <slickvic171> equivalent to demonoid
[17:57] <slickvic171> not mininova or thepiratebay
[17:57] <FiremanEd> !ot
[17:57] <slickvic171> cool
[17:57] <Myrtti> !piracy | slickvic171
[17:57] <slickvic171> ok cool
[17:58] <McL0VIN> 'firefox& will start firefox windows in my x windows, but it hung as soon as it starts ....any suggestions
[17:58] <slickvic171> how do i install adobe flashplayer
[17:59] <slickvic171> i am not too familiar with linux yet...
[17:59] <Myrtti> slickvic171: depends on your architecture
[17:59] <spackest> genii-around: thanks, will do
[17:59] <genii-around> McL0VIN: firefox -safe-mode    will load it minus extensions
[17:59] <McL0VIN> it is veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy slow
[17:59] <sharjeel> whats the difference between +x and +X for chmod?
[17:59] <Myrtti> slickvic171: do you have 64 or 32 bit ubuntu?
[17:59] <om26er> McL0VIN, we can read single 'y'
[17:59] <Craig_Dem> Is there a ppa for just the kernal?
[17:59] <slickvic171> 32
[17:59] <FelipeBHZ> Any GIMP Plugin to open CMYK .psd files?
[17:59] <sayanriju> !flash | slickvic171
[17:59] <slickvic171> question...
[17:59] <Myrtti> slickvic171: that ^ help page ubottu gave works fine in that case
[17:59] <om26er> Craig_Dem, not exactly http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[18:00] <j_ack> deadrabbit: ahh ok, maybe there is a hotspot on youre mainboard. i had a same problem a year ago, so i have optimized the coolers on the board and since that time no problems…
[18:00] <slickvic171> i had ubuntu before, and i installed adobe flash player...but it sucks!!!!
[18:00] <slickvic171> is there a better program?
[18:00] <om26er> slickvic171, no
[18:00] <sayanriju> slickvic171, then tell that to adobe! ;-)
[18:00] <slickvic171> lol
[18:00] <Craig_Dem> om26er: Yeah, I saw that, was wanting to see if it was actually a ppa.
[18:00] <Craig_Dem> Oh well, thanks anyway.
[18:01] <quido> i've installed tomcat6 + jakator with apache2 quite right I think but when I launch a WAR package. I get a HTTP status 500 error with security exceptions. Like org.apache.catalina.security.SecurityUtil.doAsPrivilege(SecurityUtil.java:243)
[18:01] <Myrtti> slickvic171: there are some open source alternatives but they are somewhat restricted in their features
[18:01] <Zerofire> I am trying to install Ubuntu on a Thinkpad T23 and I constantly get bad images for download. Does anyone know how to fix this? I want to be able to furn without errors for once.
[18:01] <slickvic171> o0o 4 real...
[18:02] <slickvic171> my next question...<i have an oqo...anybody here know how to install ubuntu or bt4 on it
[18:02] <slickvic171> via usb? it seems not to work for me
[18:02] <Zerofire> I am trying to install Ubuntu on a Thinkpad T23 and I constantly get bad images for download. Does anyone know how to fix this? I want to be able to furn without errors for once.
[18:02] <jellow> any use despotify?
[18:02] <deadrabbit> j_ack: I thought it could have been a heat issue as well, except that sometimes it will run fine for a couple of days, then others it will lock up within 2-3 hours of being started
[18:03] <McL0VIN> genii-around: clockx works fine and fast but firefox is very slow
[18:03] <om26er> mouting a dvd through archive mounter dont play the media contents. is it a bug?
[18:03] <McL0VIN> i can't even type anything
[18:03] <Zerofire>
[18:03] <Zerofire> I am trying to install Ubuntu on a Thinkpad T23 and I constantly get bad images for download. Does anyone know how to fix this? I want to be able to furn without errors for once.
[18:03] <FloodBot4> Zerofire: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:03] <quido> i've installed tomcat6 + jakator with apache2 quite right I think but when I launch a WAR package. I get a HTTP status 500 error with security exceptions. Like org.apache.catalina.security.SecurityUtil.doAsPrivilege(SecurityUtil.java:243)
[18:04] <macman_> guys .. still can't use the bot well .. i want to find a list of dell compatable laptops
[18:04] <genii-around> Zerofire: The images are bad because they fail their self-check when you select that at boot? Or because the md5sum doesn't match? Or the burner chokes on it?  Nero 8 does a validation and choughs out error after error.
[18:05] <quido> Try a different cd-burner Zerofire or check the iso
[18:06] <quido> some lens-cleaning cd's will help sometimes too
[18:06] <genii-around> !md5sum | Zerofire   Might want to check the Windows link here:
[18:06] <McL0VIN> can someone please tell me what could be the problem here? when i run xclock& it is fast and works good, but firefox& is very very slow
[18:07] <Zerofire> I only have a single burning drive and Nero has been reliable over the years. I see no reason why it should be bad now. I just burned another disk and it was fine.
[18:07] <llutz>  lens-cleaning cd's usually f...up the lense
[18:07] <Roasted> nero. :(
[18:07] <quido> Otherwise try imgburn ZeroFire
[18:07] <Roasted> ** highly recommend imgburn over nero.
[18:07] <sergi> hola me gustaria tunear mi ubuntu para que parezca un mac e intentado varias paginas pero no lo consigo alguien me puede ayudar
[18:07] <Roasted> Zerofire, having issues burning a disc? (sorry I just joined the chat)
[18:07] <Zerofire> I burned other iso and it was fine.
[18:07] <genii-around> I think also there are some images currently which are just over a max CD iso size and require to go to DVD
[18:08] <quido> i've installed tomcat6 + jakator with apache2 quite right I think but when I launch a WAR package. I get a HTTP status 500 error with security exceptions. Like org.apache.catalina.security.SecurityUtil.doAsPrivilege(SecurityUtil.java:243)
[18:08] <Zerofire> I checked it was under 700mb and I use 700mb disks
[18:08] <Roasted> Zerofire, are you burning at slowest speed?
[18:08] <phong_> Roasted duck?
[18:08] <quido> lol
[18:08] <Roasted> phong_, <3
[18:09] <lnx4ver> sergi did you looked  on gnome-look.org?
[18:09] <quido> Roasted chicken :P
[18:09] <Zerofire> I am burning at x16 which is not the slowest but not the fastest either.
[18:09] <candi> i know that on some versions of nero there is an 'enable disk overburn' setting that will help it finish  a disk under some conditions
[18:09] <suman> om26er, i am srry abt the last time can this be some virus as there are other activities
[18:09] <log_in> i recently installed a copy of ubuntu onto my new laptop and it all works fine but if i plug in headphones it plays out of both the speakers and the headphones would this be releated to soemthing bad with my install?
[18:09] <Roasted> Zerofire, always ALWAYS burn at slowest speed.
[18:09] <quido> :p 2x
[18:10] <om26er> suman, ubuntu == no virus
[18:10] <sipior> Roasted: that's nonsense, frankly.
[18:10] <Roasted> Zerofire, When you play a CD or DVD, your player can auto-backtrack to read any sectors it missed. When burning, it only burns in 1 straight line. If it skips, it doesn't go back.
[18:10] <Roasted> sipior, actually, no, it's quite necessary if you want quality burns.
[18:10] <sipior> Roasted: nonsense.
[18:10] <candi> roasted : some disks (especially the cheapest ones) have a thinner film and actually burn better at a faster speed
[18:10] <Roasted> candi, lol
[18:11] <candi> ok, think what you want
[18:11] <Roasted> sipior, if you say so. I've had more failed discs at high speed than low speed. Coincidence? Think not.
[18:11] <macman_> anyone using ubuntu on a dell sutido 17 inch
[18:11] <Roasted> sipior, I encourage you to tell people on forums to burn at high speed.
[18:11] <macman_> s/sutido/studio
[18:11] <om26er> macman_, whats not working?
[18:12] <Zerofire> I will burn a copy at 8x and then tell you guys the result.
[18:12] <Roasted> Zerofire, I suggest you do. I always burn at slowest speed, which oddly enough doesnt take that much longer anyway, but at slowest I ALWAYS get a solid burn. Ive never had a disc fail on slowest speed. Highest its much more common.
[18:12] <deadrabbit> Burning at higher speeds can cause more problems
[18:13] <jolaren> How do I move /usr/ to annother partition? My root partition has almost no space left.
[18:13] <nemo> Roasted: depends on a lot of factors too :)
[18:13] <sipior> Roasted: whilst burning at the very maximum speed may not be wise (depending upon the drive), you certainly don't need to choose the very lowest speed for a quality result. i'm not entirely sure where this sort of magical thinking comes from (the long-lost era of buffer underruns, i suppose).
[18:13] <Roasted> nemo, no doubt.
[18:13] <macman_> om26er: i get my studio 17 coming in like 2 days :P ... i was wondering if hdmi works .. and how good is the battery life ?
[18:14] <nemo> sipior: well. crap drives can still cause underruns.
[18:14] <Zerofire> I know that on the highest sometimes there are problems thats why I default to 16x It is a sweet spot for most disks.
[18:14] <Roasted> sipior, it's really just common logic... slower the speed, higher chance of a quality burn. It's just easier for me to preach running at slowest speed because each drive could have a different set of speeds at which to burn at.
[18:14] <om26er> macman_, for that we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:14] <JKemp> Can anyone tell me what i need to install to get Intel GFX working?
[18:14] <Roasted> sipior, its not that I think 4x is worse than 2x, Im just saying dont burn at 22x
[18:14] <nemo> oh well. I solved my problem. bye guys :)
[18:14] <macman_> om26er: why would that be off-topic ?
[18:14] <Roasted> sipior, so its just easier as somebody trying to help another guy out to say, burn at slowest speed. an extra 20 seconds waiting for it to finish wont hurt. :P
[18:14] <JKemp> I've already installed updates with the Intel Drivers in them. But still can't change resolution or enable effects.
[18:15] <Zerofire> 8x is the slowest Nero will allow for my drive with a CD.
[18:15] <wish^> when i installed ubuntu it didnt ask me to supply a root account.. sudo passowrd
[18:15] <okc> i am not able to open synaptic package manger in ubuntu 9.04. it is showing like this:
[18:15]  * om26er rethinks
[18:15] <jolaren> is it possible to move the /usr/ I'm totally out of ideas now
[18:15] <obaid> wish^, it wont
[18:15] <nytek_> jolaren: you can use the mv command via terminal
[18:16] <wish^> so how do i set this obaid?
[18:16] <jolaren> nytek_; and this will work just fine later on while loading the /usr directory ?
[18:16] <nytek_> jolaren: what do you mean while loading
[18:16] <obaid> sudo passwd root <password>
[18:16] <sayanriju> wish^, ask yourself why you need a root password....
[18:16] <obaid> wish^, becarefull with root
[18:17] <deadrabbit> he just wants to kill his computer faster with root thats all
[18:17] <jolaren> nytek_; the /usr directory is in the "root" partition. If I load it over to let's say /home how would it boot the /usr files?
[18:17] <okc> i am not able to open synaptic package manager in ubuntu 9.04. it is showing like this:                                                 E: Malformed line 57 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[18:17] <Myrtti> wish^: ubuntu isn't designed to *HAVE* root password
[18:17] <wish^> everytime i wanna do something on my system it asks for my root permissions
[18:17] <okc> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[18:17] <okc> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[18:17] <okc> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[18:17] <Myrtti> wish^: please do not set it
[18:17] <wish^> your kidding?
[18:17] <obaid> u can use sudo wish^
[18:17] <sayanriju> !sudo | wish^
[18:17] <Myrtti> wish^: give it the password of the first user
[18:18] <wish^> so it sort of defies the whole purpose and much like windows lets you work with administrative privileges
[18:18] <wish^> awesome
[18:18] <Myrtti> wish^: er, no.
[18:18] <icewaterman> re
[18:18] <deadrabbit> nothing like the windows UAC
[18:18] <ghigo> Buonasera a tutti
[18:18] <wish^> i though because of aptitude that ubuntu was similar to debian but more of a client
[18:18] <wish^> apparently its more like win7?
[18:18] <Myrtti> wish^: first user has admin rights, because someone needs to have them. the following accounts it needs to be set.
[18:18] <nytek_> jolaren: why do you want to move it anyway?
[18:18] <deadrabbit> ubuntu is based off of Debian
[18:19] <obaid> !help
[18:19] <jolaren> nytek_; clogged up space
[18:19] <obaid> !cmd
[18:19] <okc> can you help me to open synaptic package manager in ubuntu 9.04?
[18:19] <wish^> seems to me like a bit of a windows copy
[18:19] <steffan> !synaptic | okc
[18:19] <Myrtti> wish^: don't revert to trolling, it is so boring
[18:19] <wish^> revert to trolling?
[18:19] <Myrtti> wish^: it's a design choice, made with lots of discussion and planning
[18:19] <nytek_> jolaren: isnt your home dir on the same hd?
[18:19] <deadrabbit> okc: any reason you need to use the gui of synaptic and not just apt-get?
[18:20] <wish^> i just installed ubuntu with intentions of using at as a workin environment for my programming needs
[18:20] <Rabbitbunny> deadrabbit: No.
[18:20] <Myrtti> wish^: good! now go ahead and have fun
[18:20] <jolaren> nytek_; on annother partiton
[18:20] <deadrabbit> rabbitbunny: No???? I am so confused now
[18:20] <wish^> Myrtti: is there a problem with me saying im dissapointed in the logic of it.. and that i should have read up more before choosing to use it?
[18:21] <Rabbitbunny> wish^: Accusing the project of copying windows isn't  the best way to get help and could be considered inciteful. Some concessions were made to make it work like you expect it to.
[18:21] <Faint`> Hi. Been Googling around and am at the end of the rope here reading a horribly unhelpful manpage on xorg.conf. I am manually specifying EVERYTHING to get this monitor to work, and need help interpreting some variables that aren't explained.
[18:21] <minimec> wish^: sudo -i will give you a root-console. With that, you don't have to type sudo all the time...
[18:21] <Faint`> "The second section is a list of four numbers specifying the horizontal timings. These numbers are the hdisp, hsyncstart, hsyncend, and htotal values. The third section..."
[18:21] <Faint`> "The third section," they say, as if they've explained a damn thing. FFFFffffff...
[18:21] <okc> even i am using apt-get,it is showing as:                                                                                E: Malformed line 57 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[18:21] <okc> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[18:21] <Faint`> hdisp I'm assuming is resolution, start and end there are the freq range, but what is htotal? Anyone?
[18:22] <wish^> Rabbitbunny: im not accusing it of looking like windows.. im just really suprised that my normal user account has root access..
[18:22] <Rabbitbunny> deadrabbit: Think about gui's as putting together cammand lines for you. Sure, you can click on things and it will work, or you can type thing and control exactly what it does. Different methods, same result.
[18:22] <nytek_> jolaren: i dont know how that would work, sorry. most of the gui aspect of the system is based in usr
[18:22] <sayanriju> okc, post your  /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin so others can look at it
[18:22] <jolaren> nytek_; It's a server thought
[18:22] <Rabbitbunny> wish^: You're a sudoer.   But why are you going through this?  It's usually not necessary
[18:23] <Faint`> jrib: shitty no-name monitor brand Ubuntu doesn't know about
[18:23] <jrib> !fixres > Faint`
[18:23] <om26er> !language | Faint`
[18:23] <jrib> Faint`: have you seen that page?
[18:23] <Myrtti> wish^: of course one has to read up before making big decisions. And while you may not agree with logic, that's how ubuntu has been designed to work. Setting a root account isn't how it's designed to work. If you set it, some consider that you've in a way "voided warranty" ;-) and give no support. There is a chance that enabling root account will break things, although minimal
[18:23] <deadrabbit> Rabbitbunny: i know all that, i was just wondering if he needed the synaptic for something specific. If not he could just use apt-get
[18:23] <Faint`> Okay, alright, sorry, I'm used to the Interwebs being the wild wild west as far as profanity goes.
[18:23] <Faint`> I'll watch it.
[18:23] <minimec> wish^: The first user is considered to be 'sudoer' by default, only the first user.
[18:23] <nytek_> jolaren: hmm, so what we need is to change the systems usr source directory. just to have it point to another source
[18:23] <Faint`> jrib, have I seen what page?
[18:23] <Rabbitbunny> deadrabbit: Nah, you never need synaptic, people just like to click.
[18:23] <jrib> Faint`: check your private message from ubottu
[18:23] <wish^> right ok.. so i will never have to login as root on ubuntu to make any changes?
[18:23] <wish^> the root account is just deactivated?
[18:24] <nytek_> jolaren: sorry for the confusing statement, hopefully you get the gist
[18:24] <jolaren> nytek_; something like that, i only find guides from 2003
[18:24] <sayanriju> wish^, you got it!
[18:24] <deadrabbit> rabbitbunny: you don't need apt-get either, some people just don't like to compile
[18:24] <Rabbitbunny> deadrabbit: Exactly.
[18:24] <Faint`> jrib: I've already worked with that, what I'm trying to do now is set the resolution in xorg.conf and I just need to know what that "htotal" setting means.
[18:24] <jolaren> nytek_; if u could come up with anythin tell me;P
[18:25] <deadrabbit> rabbitbunny: my first distro was gentoo, i have just become lazy
[18:25] <minimec> wish^: root is not used. You can get a console as root when booting in recovery mode. There you get access to the whole computer without a password... Yes that's true ;) ...
[18:25] <Myrtti> minimec: which is normal to almost all distros
[18:25] <wish^> Ok, im sorry if i was a bit harsh on the system.. its just not what im used to from freeBSD
[18:25] <Myrtti> minimec: which can be protected by setting a grub password
[18:25] <sipior> Faint`: might be useful to you: http://howto-pages.org/ModeLines/
[18:26] <Faint`> sipior: Thanks, I'll follow that.
[18:26] <wish^> minimec, booting my computer in recovery mode can grant someone root access to do anything they like?
[18:26] <minimec> Myrtti: No problem with that... ;)
[18:26] <Alberto2> ciao
[18:26] <Myrtti> wish^: and you can set a password to prevent unauthorized access to recovery mode
[18:26] <minimec> wish^: Yes that is true.
[18:26] <wish^> but i thought you just said, dont use root
[18:27] <wish^> and dont set a root password
[18:27] <Alberto2> hello
[18:27] <sayanriju> wish^, root password and bootloader password aren't the same
[18:27] <wish^> ah you mean a grub password
[18:27] <sayanriju> yep
[18:27] <nytek_> jolaren: jolaren im not finding anything. its probably possible. but it would probably be along the lines of installing the entire system onto the server and than changing grub boot manager to that source
[18:28] <berty642> hi all, im gonna ask a real noob question, feel free to laugh. I have 6 gig of ram installed, the bios sees it and when i used windows it seen it as well, but 9.04 only sees 5.7 gig
[18:28] <CAPcap> ive used both Gnome and KDE and im aware of Xfce. what other desktop environments are there for Linux?
[18:28] <minimec> wish^: That is also true... ;) root exists as recovery user in recovery mode without password... ;)
[18:28] <nytek_> jolaren: to boot directly from the server
[18:28] <jolaren> nytek_; what do you think about this ? http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:d-t0UkyQ69sJ:www.khetanna.com/other_it/howtomoveusr.html+how+to+move+/usr&cd=20&hl=sv&ct=clnk&gl=se
[18:28] <wish^> i just dont understand the logic of this, but im sure ill get used to it
[18:28] <Myrtti> berty642: do you have 64-bit, 32-bit or 32-bit PAE?
[18:28] <nytek_> CAPcap: so many, openbox and flux are great for lappy';s
[18:28] <jolaren> nytek_; text is black so you have to mark everything
[18:28] <Zerofire> I am still getting errors on the slowest speed when I burn a disk of Ubuntu.
[18:28] <berty642> 64bit
[18:29] <fccf> Where would I go to ask about Ubuntu run servers? Regarding torrents.ubuntu.com/* ... cannot find torrent for hardy desktop 8.04.4 or 8.04.3
[18:29] <nytek_> jolaren: huh?
[18:29] <Raydiation> is there any alternative to gtk-recordmydesktop
[18:29] <Myrtti> Zerofire: and you have checked the image md5sum before burning, right? just making sure
[18:29] <fccf> Also seeing permission denied
[18:29] <jolaren> nytek_; found of google, some instructions.. probarly old
[18:29] <McL0VIN> how do i close xclock&
[18:29] <nytek_> link me?
[18:29] <Zerofire> I don't have software to check the md5
[18:29] <nytek_> McL0VIN: run top and find the process
[18:29] <Myrtti> Zerofire: if you are on ubuntu, you do.
[18:29] <CAPcap> nyek_ is it possible to use anything other than KDE and GNOME with  Ubuntu?
[18:30] <om26er> CAPcap, lxde, and xfce
[18:30] <McL0VIN> nytek_: so by killing it, no other option
[18:30] <nytek_> CAPcap: you can use any wm on ubuntu
[18:30] <minimec> wish^: In our times, there are thousands of ways to get data... If you want to protect your computer, you would first modify your BIOS and then the boot manager grub. root without password is only third priority ;)
[18:30] <nytek_> CAPcap: and for the matter, on any machine running linux will run any wm
[18:30] <Zerofire> I am burning a disk of Ubuntu. I am using Windows XP Pro to do it.
[18:30] <om26er> !md5 | Zerofire
[18:30] <CAPcap> nytek_,  im not looking for a window manager im looking for a desktop environment
[18:30] <nytek_> McL0VIN: just kill it and restart it
[18:31] <wish^> you could have just told me to write man sudo_root ;D
[18:31] <CAPcap> om26er, thanks
[18:31] <sayanriju> CAPcap, xfce, lxde
[18:31] <wish^> but thanks for the info
[18:31] <nytek_> CAPcap: the desktop environment is the wm
[18:31] <Myrtti> Zerofire: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=B3C93558-31B7-47E2-A663-7365C1686C08&displaylang=en
[18:31] <hardcorE0x1a4> hello all
[18:31] <om26er> CAPcap, :)
[18:31] <om26er> !hi | hardcorE0x1a4
[18:32] <mttr> anyone using zfs
[18:32] <hardcorE0x1a4> I have a Realtek 8172 wireless card aka Realtek 8192se in windows and I cannot for the live of me get it to work with ubuntu 9.10 32 bit or 64 bit: is there anyone that can provide some advice?
[18:32] <actionparsnip> Yo yo yo
[18:32] <CAPcap> om26er,  at one point i had the kde environ installed along side and i could choose at the log in screen. can i do that with the other environs as well?
[18:32] <spwelton> ok, so I've got a quick question: I've developed an app in Quickly, and can't get it to upload to my PPA on Launchpad, it keeps complaining that i don't have a secret key, when I surely do... Any advice?
[18:32] <nytek_> hardcorE0x1a4: have you checked the restricted drivers?
[18:33] <hardcorE0x1a4> I've gone the route of ndiswrapper and I've tried the native driver from the website
[18:33] <om26er> CAPcap, yes sure
[18:33] <sayanriju> CAPcap, for lxde and xfce, you should
[18:33] <Myrtti> !md5sum > Zerofire
[18:33] <slawek> sex
[18:33] <marcuy> when Deluge bittorrent client downloads the iplist, does it automatically start to block those ips or should we have to do it something else?
[18:33] <h0rnman> hardcorE0x1a4, Have you made sure that you are working with the correct chipset for the driver you are trying to use?
[18:33] <slawek> polisz
[18:33] <actionparsnip> hardcorE0x1a4: did you check the realtek site. You may have to compile drivers
[18:34] <CAPcap> sayanriju, om26er, I like Gnome and I didnt like KDE mostly im just new to linux and im exploring to find what i like. what would you recommend?
[18:34] <sayanriju> CAPcap, either
[18:34] <hardcorE0x1a4> Yeah as far as I can tell, Realtek doesn't ack the 8172 on their website :-\
[18:34] <om26er> CAPcap, Gnome
[18:34] <nytek_> CAPcap: try xfce and look for some cool looking themes
[18:34] <nytek_> CAPcap: xfce is my favorite
[18:34] <sayanriju> CAPcap, both can be made to resemble gnome, but my personal prefernces are with lxde
[18:34] <hardcorE0x1a4> but others have successfully gotten it to work with the 8192se drivers
[18:35] <boxfish> Realtek issue ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1367871
[18:35] <CAPcap> sayanriju, well im looking at the sites and lxde looks nice. i cant find full screenshots of xfce
[18:35]  * om26er thinks lxde need a bit more work
[18:35] <hardcorE0x1a4> my system recongizes the card but the netmanager cant get the card to scan
[18:35] <om26er> still its super fast
[18:35] <CAPcap> om26er, what kind of work?
[18:35] <sayanriju> om26er, lxpanle is much easier than before with gui config tools
[18:35] <h0rnman> HA...good eye boxfish :)
[18:35] <nytek_> CAPcap: look on deviantart.com, they have a great variety of xfce screenshots
[18:35] <deadrabbit> hardcore0x1a4 : yeah there are a lot of issues with the realtek 8172 not working, though a lot of people have gotten it to work
[18:36] <actionparsnip> hardcorE0x1a4: then modprobe the module to see if it works. You may have to remove other modules if they are getting in the way
[18:36] <sayanriju> CAPcap, don't worry about looks...you can make them look like anything post install
[18:36] <hardcorE0x1a4> boxfish: yes i lsmod and it's listed
[18:36] <om26er> sayanriju, many papercuts in lxde cause a bit annoyance
[18:36] <hardcorE0x1a4> sry boxfish: I did that page
[18:36] <sayanriju> om26er, true
[18:37] <chun1> Can anyone point me towards a relatively easy way to only allow certain mac addresses to connect to my ad-hoc wireless network? Slightly out of my depth.
[18:37] <hardcorE0x1a4> what might get in the way?
[18:37] <CAPcap> sayanriju, to an extent. KDE was not to my liking at all
[18:37] <actionparsnip> Capcap: lxde is slick but many new users hang with gnome til they get accustomed to the OS
[18:37] <Faint`> Okay, anyone who cares: THIS modeline generator ACTUALLY GIVES THE RIGHT VALUES. Grr.
[18:37] <Faint`> http://www.epanorama.net/faq/vga2rgb/calc.html
[18:37] <sayanriju> om26er, but its very promising (/me is die hard openbox fan)
[18:37] <wish^> thing is i cant get to /root from the command line
[18:37] <Faint`> Think I'm sorted now. Bye all.
[18:37] <hardcorE0x1a4> wlan0 is listed in my network interfaces but the netmanger can't seem to get it to scan or do anything
[18:37] <wish^> without changing all commands to sudo this and sudo tha
[18:37] <deadrabbit> hardcoree0x1a4 : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/401126
[18:37] <sayanriju> CAPcap, i don't like kde that much  myself (/me runs for cover :P)
[18:37] <actionparsnip> Wish^: you can use: sudo -s
[18:38] <deadrabbit> hardcore0x1a4 : are you on a laptop?
[18:38] <om26er> sayanriju, when I change a desktop environment and come back to gnome its the feeling of getting back home after vacations
[18:38] <actionparsnip> Wish^: sudo is to make you run your system more securely
[18:38] <McL0VIN> how can i start firefox& in safe mode from shell
[18:38] <hardcorE0x1a4> yeah
[18:38] <think43> I am downloading Ubuntu, but I cant find it, what desktop comes with the ubuntu cd?
[18:38] <hardcorE0x1a4> deadrabit: yeah
[18:38] <deadrabbit> hardcore0x1a4 : is the wireless turned on?
[18:38] <sayanriju> om26er, same here, and that's why /me made openbox+lxpanel+pcmanfm to clone the gnome look!
[18:38] <actionparsnip> Think43: gnome
[18:39] <hardcorE0x1a4> yeah the light is on
[18:39] <CAPcap> sayanriju, i know some people like it because it "resembles windows" but in my opinion its not like windows. id know i just switched from using windows my whole life. i find gnome easier to navigate
[18:39] <nagylaszlo> hi
[18:39] <_Tristan> where can I download the "human" theme?
[18:39] <d3u5> bye
[18:39] <think43> actionparsnip, thanks, well, what about kubuntu, what version of kde comes with it?
[18:39] <actionparsnip> Think43: kubuntu comes with kde. Xubuntu comes with xfce. Lubuntu comes with lxde
[18:39] <deadrabbit> hardcore0x1a4 : did you add the ndiswrapper to /etc/modules and try a restart?
[18:39] <rug> sayanriju: What do you like about Openbox more then Fluxbox?
[18:39] <sayanriju> _Tristan, tried gnome-look?
[18:39] <think43> actionparsnip, is kubuntu got kde 4 or 3?
[18:39] <nytek_> Rug: flux!
[18:39] <axz> could someone pls explain me this error while installing ATI radeon drivers,,, http://pastebin.com/d2606ccde
[18:40] <hardcorE0x1a4> deadrabbit: I did ndiswrapper with the win2k driver.  I used ndisgtk would that be the same?
[18:40] <sayanriju> rug, the few less calories (megs)! ;-)
[18:40] <Rug> sayanriju: ok
[18:40] <CAPcap> om26er, sayanriju, KDE seems cluttered and disorganized to me... i guess it is like windows. anyways how do i go about installing lxde alongside gnome so i can choose it when i log in. im running karmic
[18:40] <sayanriju> ruffus910,  but seriously, fb is great too , esp. in terms of looks!
[18:40] <actionparsnip> _Tristan: try: apt-cache search human | grep -I theme
[18:40] <holy> Why ubuntu can not work on a computer with limited RAM size where one another popular system works just fine? Should i download and use Ubuintu 6.10 in this case or there's a way to use any modern version of Ubuntu?
[18:40] <think43> oh, yep its kde 4, cool
[18:40] <Rug> sayanriju: does openbox have a good tileing (sp?) manager?
[18:40] <coz_> sayanriju,   sudo apt-get install lxde
[18:40] <hardcorE0x1a4> deadrabbit: and it said hardware present and working but still the same problem as the native driver
[18:40] <coz_> sayanriju,   then log out   and choose the lxde session
[18:41] <sayanriju> Rug, /me don't like tiling
[18:41] <actionparsnip> sayanriju: fluxbox also has killer hotkey support ;)
[18:41] <think43> so why would anyone want any of the others, cause kde is the most latest desktop software available
[18:41] <sayanriju> coz_, redirect your answer to CAPcap :P
[18:41] <deadrabbit> hardcore0x1a4 : ndisgtk is just a gui frontend for ndiswrapper. What laptop do you have and does it have bluetooth?
[18:41] <coz_> sayanriju,  oh   it wasnt you?  sorry
[18:41] <Rug> I wish I could get Flux + OPTIONAL tiling
[18:41] <coz_> CAPcap,   sudo apt-ge
[18:41] <Zerofire> I just did a MD5 checksum comparision and it is a match for the iso.
[18:41] <actionparsnip> Think43: how is it latest? And why does latest determine quality?
[18:41] <coz_> CAPcap,  sudo apt-get install lxde  then log out and choose the lxde session
[18:41] <CAPcap> i saw, thanks coz_
[18:41] <hardcorE0x1a4> deadrabbit: it's Toshiba A505-S6033 and no it doesn't have bluetooth :-(
[18:42] <coz_> :)
[18:42] <sayanriju> actionparsnip, hotkeys? OB has them too! Just edit the rc.xml!
[18:42] <tasslehoff> Nautilus is nice enough to mount my Macintosh HD-partition if I click it, but I want it to happen automatically at login. Does this still mean editing /etc/fstab, or is there another way?
[18:42] <CAPcap> coz_,  that goes beside right? i'll still have gnome yeah?
[18:42] <Slart> tasslehoff: I think you'll have to include it in your fstab
[18:42] <actionparsnip> Sayanriju: virtual F-key ftw
[18:42] <think43> actionparsnip, true, but if you wanted flashy eye candy, then kubuntu is the way to go eh?
[18:42] <coz_> CAPcap,  yep you just choose which session while you are on the login screen
[18:42] <vlady> ciao
[18:42] <actionparsnip> !fstab | tasslehoff
[18:42] <Rug> keystroke saver:  add this to your .bashrc  alias ac='apt cache search' and alias ag='apt-get install'
[18:43] <vlady> !list
[18:43] <coz_> CAPcap,  lxde is very very fast   not quite up to par
[18:43] <coz_> it gnome
[18:43] <think43> gnome, look same since years
[18:43] <CAPcap> coz_, sweet. just like i did with kde. is it possible to uninstall these later?
[18:43] <coz_> CAPcap,  with gnome
[18:43] <sayanriju> Rug, have you tried awesome3?
[18:43] <think43> but kde is changed so much
[18:43] <h0rnman> tasslehoff, fstab would be the way to go
[18:43] <tasslehoff> Slart: ok. is there a way to find out how nautilus has mounted it?
[18:43] <coz_> CAPcap,  yep just sudo apt-get autoremove  lxde
[18:43] <Rug> sayanriju: no, what is it?
[18:43] <actionparsnip> Think43: you can skin gnome so that fact is moot
[18:43] <Zerofire> I am having problems burning a ubuntu disk and the iso MD5 checksum is valid.
[18:43] <Slart> tasslehoff: try having it mounted automagically.. then type this in a terminal "cat /etc/mtab"
[18:43] <actionparsnip> Zerofire: burn it as slowly as possible
[18:44] <Rug> tasslehoff: You must be a DL fan
[18:44] <coz_> CAPcap,  lxde will take a day to get used to ..it is similar to xfce in ways
[18:44] <CAPcap> if i wanted to put kde or xfce id do the same thing but put in one of those instead of lxde right?
[18:44] <deadrabbit> hardcore0x1a4 : have you tried shutting off the wireless then starting it again?
[18:44] <Zerofire> I already burn it at 8x wich is the slowest speed.
[18:44] <Slart> tasslehoff: it should print out the currently mounted filesystems.. hopefully it will be included in that list
[18:44] <actionparsnip> Capcap: yes
[18:44] <sayanriju> Rug, a tiling WM. never used it, but folks at #arch claim its truly awesome.
[18:44] <coz_> CAPcap,  no to get rid of kde    sudo apt-get autoremove kubuntu-desktop
[18:44] <actionparsnip> Zerofire: try a different burning app
[18:44] <think43> actionparsnip, hmmm, I didn't know that, I will play with that as soon as I finish installing kubuntu, and I get a good macosx style dock, Any recommendations, which is bes to use
[18:44] <CAPcap> coz_ i meant for installing
[18:44] <tasslehoff> Rug: not hardcore fan, but read some books a while ago :)
[18:44] <Rug> sayanriju: =)  So Awesome is Awesome?
[18:44] <coz_> CAPcap,  installing kde?
[18:44] <hardcorE0x1a4> deadrabbit: I don't believe so.  I have fn keys that don't seem to work in ubuntu, but I also have a hardware switch for the wireless.  Do you think that may work?
[18:45] <sayanriju> Rug, so they say! :D
[18:45] <coz_> CAPcap,   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:45] <CAPcap> coz_, yes and xfce
[18:45] <actionparsnip> Coz_: that only removes the metapackage dude
[18:45] <coz_> CAPcap,  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[18:45] <actionparsnip> !puregnome | capcap
[18:45] <Zerofire> I already tried a diffrent iso and it worked. I do not see a problem with Nero 8
[18:45] <Rug> I'll hop into #arch and chat
[18:45] <tasslehoff> Slart: thanks. it's in the link you/ubottu gave me as well I see
[18:45] <hardcorE0x1a4> deadrabbit:  When I did the native install I tryed ./wlan0up and down then back up again and that didn't produce any good results
[18:45] <coz_> actionparsnip,  yep sorry about that
[18:45] <Slart> tasslehoff: you're welcome
[18:45] <resno> looking for a bit of help getting wireless nic setup.
[18:46] <actionparsnip> Think43 you can skin both gnome and kde to look like macOs including a dockbar.
[18:46] <coz_> break time be back later
[18:46] <deadrabbit> hardcoree0x1a4 : do an ifconfig real quick it should see a wlan0 on there as well
[18:46] <sayanriju> Rug, the channel is #archlinux, and i was not referring to the currently going chat there
[18:46] <Zerofire> I already tried a diffrent iso and it worked. I do not see a problem with Nero 8
[18:46] <actionparsnip> Coz_: got your back dude ;)
[18:46] <CAPcap> actionparsnip, were his directions correct for installing those though, and for uninstalling lxde?
[18:46] <hardcorE0x1a4> deadrabbit: yes it is
[18:46] <Rug> sayanriju: thanks
[18:47] <think43> actionparsnip, how do I do it, apt-get install skins-what-name?  This is my first ubuntu install in my life
[18:47] <deadrabbit> hardcoree0x1a4 : so the interface is there, just it does not see anything with the network manager?
[18:47] <Zerofire> I already tried a diffrent iso and it worked. I do not see a problem with Nero 8
[18:47] <hardcorE0x1a4> deadrabbit: correct
[18:47] <actionparsnip> Think43: there are guides and projects all over the web. You will find them very easily
[18:47] <deadrabbit> hardcoree0x1a4 : try shutting off the wireless then doing a restart and turn it back on
[18:48] <think43> actionparsnip, what are you running?
[18:48] <actionparsnip> Capcap: if you uninstall the lxde package then run sudo apt-get autoremove
[18:48] <hardcorE0x1a4> ok I'll brb I'm workin on the machine
[18:48] <actionparsnip> Capcap it will remove lxde fully
[18:48] <Zerofire> I already tried a diffrent iso and it worked. I do not see a problem with Nero 8
[18:48] <think43> man sudu, what is this sudu business
[18:48] <CAPcap> and to install kde i sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[18:49] <actionparsnip> Zerofire: I suggest you ask in ##windows if nero is giving you grief
[18:49] <sayanriju> Zerofire, probably the prob was with the 1st iso, which was corrupt? did u md5sum check as suggested?
[18:49] <jolaren> nytek_; I think I've found a solution. If it works this boot will go fine, heh..
[18:49] <Zerofire> yes I did a MD5 checksum and it was a match.
[18:49] <CAPcap> think43, sudo runs things as root
[18:50] <vianocturna85> hello my ubuntu friends, wonder if anyone can shed some light for me...at uni we use EAP-TTLS connection, and when i use any mail client for my gmail imap, it wont connect and hangs...is that imap problem or evolution etc?
[18:50] <think43> so you dont have to su login, you just type sudo, do you ever have to go su then+
[18:50] <actionparsnip> hardcorE0x1a4: does: sudo iwlist scan
[18:50] <actionparsnip> hardcorE0x1a4: show APs?
[18:51] <CAPcap> actionparsnip, to install KDE i put in sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop right?
[18:51] <actionparsnip> Think43: right now. Lxde on my laptop. This is my G1 phone I'm talking to you on
[18:52] <actionparsnip> Think43: it's sudo not sudu
[18:52] <hink> I have a Ubuntu Server virtual machine running on VMWare ESX.... i deleted two NICs and added two additional NICs and now they show as eth2 and eth3 even though eth0 and eth1 do not exist
[18:52] <think43> actionparsnip, what a gi phone
[18:52] <hink> how do i make the two nics show as eth0 and eth1
[18:52] <sburwood> where do I go to get help with a word processor that I can't open?
[18:52] <think43> actionparsnip, do you have any flashy eye candy on lxde?
[18:52] <actionparsnip> Think43: use sudo -s and not su
[18:53] <actionparsnip> Think43: I don't even use desktop wallpaper so no
[18:53] <abx> what is the basic difference between sudo and su?
[18:53] <m3rc> I'm having trouble setting up new pci nic. ubuntu recognizes it but when I run dhclient my sniffer on the router doesn't pick up any packets. What's wrong?
[18:53] <actionparsnip> Think43: googles android phone
[18:53] <m3rc> Ifconfig shows no rx or tx packets for the nic
[18:53] <AndreasS> abx, su makes you root, sudo makes you perform a command as root
[18:53] <think43> actionparsnip, well, I am still waiting for kubuntu download, should be another 30mins, so I will be back here with kubuntu in about an 1.5hrs
[18:53] <abx> thanks!
[18:53] <think43> actionparsnip, I don't think they have that in Canada yet, are you in US?
[18:53] <sayanriju> think43, nothing flashy, but xcompmgr+transset is kewl
[18:53] <Turbolinux> Hello everyone. I need help urgently. Windows got damaged when I was installing an Anti-Virus program. I need to rescue datas from hard disk.
[18:54] <think43> sayanriju, let me google that, brbr
[18:54] <sburwood> where can I find someone to help me open a *.doc file?
[18:54] <actionparsnip> Think43: UK. The phone has been out about a year iirc
[18:54] <xangua> Turbolinux: this is #ubuntu, not #windows
[18:54] <artur__> omfg
[18:54] <actionparsnip> Sburwood: use openoffice
[18:54] <xangua> sburwood: you can open .doc with openoffice writer, abiword, koffice
[18:54] <tony32> it just felt awkward with my sister
[18:54] <AndreasS> Turbolinux, install linux on a partition and rescue the files to the linux partition and then delete the windows partition and use linux :)
[18:55] <tony32> sorry, wrong tab
[18:55] <sburwood> xangua: I've tried openoffice 3.1 and abiword
[18:55] <vianocturna85> anyone know if evolution hangs due to imap or due to connection type when on a TTLS connection?
[18:55] <sburwood> xangua: It tells me that the file is a binary file
[18:55] <tony32> btw, anyone know how to change clipboard options?
[18:55] <sayanriju> tony32, get a clipboard manager
[18:56] <Turbolinux> Sorry, I couldn't finish my sentences. I am trying to rescue data with Ubuntu. What can I do?
[18:56] <think43> The main thing I am lookng for is a macosx style dock that works good, I guess its fine on Lenny, but squeeze isn't acting wierd.  I am gonna give it a try with Kunbunu now
[18:56] <xangua> sburwood: then maybe is a windows virus
[18:56] <sayanriju> Turbolinux, is your window partition intact (as in unformatted)?
[18:56] <sburwood> But my son, who got it from a friend, is able to open it with XP.  I use 9.10.
[18:57] <tony32> sayanriju: ok, got klipper now. i just want it to paste between closed windows. also, paste and go in firefox is one behind when pasting
[18:57] <sburwood> xangua: My son, who got it from a friend, can open it with MS Office
[18:57] <sburwood> in XP
[18:58] <hrdcore0x1a4> deadrabbit: hey man, no luck :(
[18:58] <Turbolinux> No. It's NTFS formatted but GParted and disk properties tool tells me there is no data on hard disk. What must I do for rescue datas.
[18:58] <deadrabbit> hardcore0x1a4 : sudo iwlist scan <-- try that
[18:58] <sburwood> xangua: But I have Windows 7 on another computer, and notepad can open it
[18:59] <CAPcap> T_T KDE install SOOOOOOOOOO slow
[18:59] <hrdcore0x1a4> no scan results was the output
[18:59] <CAPcap> lxde installed in like 30 seconds
[18:59] <sburwood> xangua: of course, there are photos in the word processor document
[18:59] <hrdcore0x1a4> but I know there are atleast 3 networks avail
[19:00] <vincent_> a klkun
[19:00] <CAPcap> sburwood, why not open it on another computer change it to a .rtf and then try it again?
[19:00] <Zerofire> sayanriju check your PM's
[19:00] <hrdcore0x1a4> deadrabbit: wlan0 no scan results
[19:00] <actionparsnip> Yo yo yo
[19:00] <zavulon> ulon
[19:00] <Turbolinux> Help me please. I need to solve this problem now.
[19:01] <h0rnman> hrdcore0x1a4, can you connect wirelessly on another machine?
[19:01] <obaid> what problem
[19:01] <deadrabbit> hardcore0x1a4 : hmmm that should have given you something if it was working
[19:01] <aljoscha> hi, how can i get a boot splash and grub2 configuration like this examples: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot  ... I have karmic and it still starts with the grubmenu -> usplash (glowing ubuntu logo in the middle) -> xsplash (short) -> gdm -> xsplash again -> desktop
[19:01] <actionparsnip> Turbolinux: wassup?
[19:01] <rollover2k> i wanna configure my desktop.. ive seen some awesome desktops, that have bars that show load and disk space and other things.. what do i need to do this?
[19:01] <sayanriju> Turbolinux, you using a live cd?
[19:01] <sburwood> CAPcap: I would like to know if it could be an Apple file that works on an XP computer, but nowhere else?
[19:01] <arand> rollover2k: Likely done using "conky".
[19:01] <Zorael> Is there any way to list what installed packages no longer exist in any enabled repos?
[19:01] <mkanyicy> hi
[19:02] <CAPcap> sburwood, no idea.
[19:02] <sburwood> CAPcap: can I send it to you and ask you to try to change it?
[19:02] <rollover2k> conky you say?
[19:02] <hrdcore0x1a4> deadrabbit: ya I know thats whr I'm stuck lol.  The comp recongizes it but doesn't use it
[19:02] <sayanriju> Turbolinux, have you seen this page:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[19:02] <Turbolinux> Windows got damaged when I was installing an Anti-Virus program. I need to rescue datas from hard disk. Now I must rescue datas from hard disk with Ubuntu.
[19:02] <CAPcap> sburwood, sure i guess
[19:02] <actionparsnip> Zorael: with a very complex script you could. I'd as in #bash
[19:03] <Zorael> actionparsnip: Right, thanks
[19:03] <Turbolinux> Thank you, sayanriju.
[19:03] <mkanyicy> I installed kde to my HP Laptop now the font-size of applications are too big like it has been magnified, this does not happen in gnom, how can i fix this?
[19:03] <nytek_> where would i post a tutorial for my netbook for other people to have some sort of reference to it.
[19:03] <nytek_> ?
[19:03] <CAPcap> sburwood, see pm for email
[19:03] <xangua> mkanyicy: open kde font settings
[19:03] <actionparsnip> Turbolinux: windows partitions are mountable from liveCd under places menu in the top bar
[19:03] <deadrabbit> hrdcore0x1a4 : give a bit of time i wanna google a few options
[19:03] <sayanriju> Turbolinux, testdisk has saved my a*** a few times
[19:03] <snowborder> !lista
[19:03] <actionparsnip> Nytek: ubuntuforums =D
[19:03] <snowborder> !bot
[19:04] <snowborder> !lista
[19:04] <nytek_> actionparsnip: which one, thought?
[19:04] <nytek_> though*
[19:04] <actionparsnip> Nytek: awesome to share dude. I'm sure you'll get a number of users fixed with it which is awesome
[19:04] <actionparsnip> Nytek_: which one what?
[19:04] <hrdcore0x1a4> Anybody know why wlan0 wouldn't be able to scan?
[19:04] <alex_mayorga> hello! Anything I can add to the panel and see how much stuff I've down/uploaded?
[19:04] <nytek_> actionparsnip: which one of the forums?
[19:05] <nytek_> actionparsnip: which part, i guess.
[19:05] <actionparsnip> Nytek_: www.ubuntuforums.org
[19:05] <abx> Is it possible to get a Live CD of Ubunut 9.10 from the official website?
[19:05] <hrdcore0x1a4> Or why USB ports refuse connections in ubuntu?
[19:05] <snowborder> !lista
[19:05] <abx> or is the same ISO installation CD?
[19:05] <actionparsnip> Nytek_: your choice
[19:05] <nytek_> actionparsnip: in hardware and laptops? (for my netbook)
[19:05] <sburwood> CAPcap: Good luck, it's off
[19:05] <mkanyicy> xangua, I cannot even see anything when I open system settings. the word 'configure' fills the whole monitor
[19:05] <brand0n> alex_mayorga, try conky, it wont add it to the task bar but it can easily show you stats like that
[19:05] <rollover2k> is safari not in aptitude?
[19:05] <snowborder> ciao sapete come si fa a scaricare? io metto !lista ma nn mi dice nulla
[19:05] <sburwood> CAPcap: and it's in French
[19:05] <actionparsnip> Nytek_: if you think it is most accurate then yes
[19:06] <sburwood> CAPcap: thx in advance
[19:06] <abx> snowborder, prego in inglese...
[19:06] <nytek_> actionparsnip: or installation and upgrade? im thinking that would be better.
[19:06] <actionparsnip> Rollover2k: safari is a mac program. Not sure if its opensource or not
[19:06] <alex_mayorga> brand0n, thanks! I'll check it out
[19:06] <actionparsnip> Nytek_: you call dude :)
[19:06] <alex_mayorga> !conky
[19:06] <rollover2k> what other web browsers are available?
[19:07] <nytek_> actionparsnip: cool, thanks for the direction
[19:07] <deadrabbit> hrdcore0x1a4 : http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33927923/rtl8192se_linux_2.6.0010.1012.2009.tar.gz, this is a linux driver from realtek
[19:07] <actionparsnip> Abx: the desktop iso is the live iso. The alternate installs in a text environment and has no live desktop option
[19:07] <brand0n> alex_mayorga, sudo apt-get install conky-all
[19:08] <deadrabbit> hrdcore0x1a4 : just do a standard make, make install and it should work after a restart
[19:08] <abx> thanks!
[19:08] <actionparsnip> !browser | rollover2k
[19:08] <hrdcore0x1a4> deadrabbit: I've installed that one and 2 other versions from December of 09
[19:08] <brand0n> ubottu forgot chrome
[19:08] <actionparsnip> Rollover2k: there is also chrome and chromium via ppa
[19:08] <alex_mayorga> brand0n, I "asked" aptitude and it says something about the package being "transitional"
[19:08] <xangua> brand0n: chromium :)
[19:08] <actionparsnip> Brand0n: and chromium ;)
[19:09] <Myrtti> brand0n: which probably hasn't been officially packaged for any versions of Ubuntu
[19:09] <Elena> hELLO
[19:09] <brand0n> idk anything about that, alex_mayorga
[19:09] <Elena> HELLO
[19:09] <Myrtti> brand0n: and as such isn't included
[19:09] <brand0n> but thats what i installed
[19:09] <actionparsnip> Brandon: and arora :)
[19:09] <chun1> How can I view all of the computers connected to an ad-hoc wireless network?
[19:09] <actionparsnip> Chun1: use nmap
[19:10] <deadrabbit> hrdcore0x1a4 : most people have reported that everything worked after using that. so I am not sure what else to do, sorry.
[19:10] <Pici> snowborder: What are you trying to download?
[19:10] <alex_mayorga> brand0n, thanks anyway
[19:10] <deadrabbit> hrdcore0x1a4 : i think your computer just doesn't like you right now
[19:10] <brand0n> thats the right package
[19:10] <brand0n> just install it
[19:10] <brand0n> and do conky in terminal
[19:10] <CAPcap> sburwood, im not having any luck either and ive tried several methods. you say your son can open it in win xp?
[19:10] <brand0n> gives you a generic setup
[19:11] <actionparsnip> hrdcore0x1a4: have you tried using a wired connection to get fully updated. The newer kernel may make the wifi act better
[19:11] <macman_> anyone having issues with ubuntu diming the screen even if you turn off power managemnt stuff
[19:11] <sburwood> CAPcap: yes, he goes to a cybercafe. I am just interested what format this thing is.  Is it something created by Apple?
[19:12] <hrdcore0x1a4> no I can try that tho thx for the tip :-D
[19:12]  * dinis re
[19:12]  * dinis re
[19:12] <deadrabbit> hrdcore0x1a4 : have you tried installing the module manually?
[19:12] <hrdcore0x1a4> deadrabbit: thx for your help too man.  This has been a 2 days long headache and i may end up taking the laptop back
[19:12] <jolaren> I installed a dualboot in my stationary computer, now the ubuntu boot is gone.. only the windows7 is still there.. can I remove ubuntu somhow?
[19:12] <actionparsnip> Macman_: you need to tell the screensaver to not dim the screen maybe.
[19:12] <CAPcap> sburwood, i dont know if its created by apple. why would it be?
[19:12] <hrdcore0x1a4> deadrabbit: What do u mean manually?
[19:13] <actionparsnip> !grub2 | jolaren
[19:13] <hrdcore0x1a4> deadrabbit: is that method 2 in the readme for the linux driver?
[19:13] <actionparsnip> Jolaren: installing ubuntu 2nd is advised
[19:13] <sburwood> CAPcap: I don't know what the friend uses. Does he have a Mac?  I can't tell.  Thx for having tried to open it
[19:13] <webroasters> hi, are there required packages for use with .bin files?
[19:13] <deadrabbit> hrdcore0x1a4 : manually copying the rtl8172se_pci.ko into the /lib/modules/2.6.31-14-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/
[19:14] <jolaren> actionparsnip; windows was installed first.. then ubuntu.. now the grub post for ubuntu has dissapeared. I'd like to remove ubuntu to install mythubunt
[19:14] <actionparsnip> Webroasters: its a program. Mark it as executable and launch it in a terminal
[19:14] <hrdcore0x1a4> deadrabbit:  I'll give it a try.  What do I do after that?
[19:14] <deadrabbit> hrdcore0x1a4 : Copy rtl8192se firmware folder to /lib/firmware/`uname -r`
[19:14] <webroasters> I tried that, but it says this:
[19:14] <webroasters> ./RealPlayer10.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:14] <sburwood> CAPcap: I'm going to watch the TV.  Bye.
[19:14] <actionparsnip> Jolaren: install the mythbuntu packages from the repo then. Its not a seperate OS
[19:15] <macman_> actionparsnip: dim diplay when idle is unchecked
[19:15] <sburwood> CAPcap: and again, thx
[19:15] <eisenheim> ./j  #backtrack-linux
[19:15] <actionparsnip> Webroasters: then you need to satisfy that dependancy.
[19:15] <webroasters> ok thanks
[19:15] <actionparsnip> !realplayer | webroasters
[19:15] <webroasters> i think i understand
[19:16] <jolaren> actionparsnip; I know it isn't but installing the repos gives alot of problems with nvidia drivers.. just installing the live cd with mythbuntu solves that
[19:16] <razertek> why would ubuntu slow down my internet browsing but yet my up and down speeds are normal?
[19:16] <deadrabbit> hrdcore0x1a4 : do a "depmod -a", then "modprobe rtl8192se_pci"
[19:16] <webroasters> thx ubottu, actionparsnip, I dont understand
[19:16] <hrdcore0x1a4> deadrabbit: giveme 1 sec to copy that over
[19:16] <jolaren> So basicly I can't remove the ubuntu partition?
[19:16] <Rorgo> is there any way to use a wildcard in the search order in resolv.conf?
[19:16] <deadrabbit> hrdcore0x1a4 : if it still does not work after that then, realtek sucks
[19:16] <Rorgo> like, *.company.com doesn't seem to work
[19:16] <McL0VIN> My srvr is located at my friend house miles away...i am at work using suck balls (M$ box) that our lovely people blocks everything on the net.....i used hummingbird exceed trying to get firefox windows. using firefox& i get the FF window but it is very slow can someone please suggest what could be wrong!
[19:17] <actionparsnip> Webroaster: if you have libstdc++ of a later version, you can symlink to the file it expects to keep it happy
[19:17] <webroasters> oh ok
[19:17] <webroasters> thanks again guys
[19:17] <razertek> actionparsnip: may i ask what you browse the net with...you said the other day you ditched firefox?
[19:18] <geodesica> my kid hit some keys and now I'm in high contrast, how do i turn off?
[19:18] <actionparsnip> Razertek: try different dns servers, or install a local one like dnsmasq. There are guides for it online
[19:18] <rmt> I seem to be having the same issue as the chap here: http://preview.tinyurl.com/yhamohm  - Something in the GDM process is setting the resolution to be suboptimal.
[19:18] <abx> I have a conf file for a network printer. I added that to the /etc/cups directory. How can I now install it so that the printer is recognized?
[19:18] <andrew_> hello all, im trying to find the location of the images for the different checkbox states. any chance anyone could point me in the right direction?
[19:18] <actionparsnip> Razertek: chromium and arora
[19:18] <evon> hello. how can i get windows to see a ntfs partition mounted in linux?
[19:18] <oLd> :)
[19:18] <l337ingDisorder> Does anyone know how to list all files in a directory that have a CREATION date older than X days? (I know I can use the `find` command to list files with MODIFICATION and ACCESS dates older than X days but I specifically need CREATION date). Thanks if anyone can help :)
[19:19] <antonius> ubuntu one vs dropbox??  is there a REAL difference?
[19:19] <blacktooth> Any one succesful using samsung camcorder on ubuntu?
[19:19] <actionparsnip> Ot | Antonius
[19:19] <xangua> antonius: dropbox works for linux, mac and windows
[19:19] <razertek> actionparsnip: i have a feeling it is ubuntu and not my network setup nor the browsers...
[19:19] <actionparsnip> !ot | antonius
[19:19] <hrdcore0x1a4> deadrabbit:  when i did modprove rtl8192se_pci it said it wasn't found?
[19:20] <Talon_> is there a similar terminal for gnome as konsole? I miss always having that tab bar and one click new tab.
[19:20] <actionparsnip> Razertek: worth a try. Dnsmasq will speed up all webbrowsing
[19:20] <deadrabbit> hrdcore0x1a4 : did you download and unzip that file i linked you?
[19:20] <rmt> With a login script and xrandr, I can change the resolution back to 1920x1080, but I'd love to track down what changes it in the gdm process. X by itself starts up with the correct mode.
[19:20] <actionparsnip> Talon: tilda or guake
[19:20] <antonius> xangua: thx...i'll be sticking to dropbox then....also, actionparsnip...can't imagine how that's off topic, but anyways.  good for you lol
[19:20] <hrdcore0x1a4> deadrabbit:  I used a more recent version but I believe it would be the same?
[19:21] <actionparsnip> Antonius: this is ubuntu support only
[19:21] <hellyeah> what is thesis dedication
[19:21] <razertek> actionparsnip: k i will research dnsmasq..ty
[19:21] <hrdcore0x1a4> deadrabbit: I used rtl8192se_linux_2.6.0010.1211.2009
[19:21] <antonius> and ubuntu one is a default feature of ubuntu..thank you
[19:21] <PauloR> hi people
[19:21] <xangua> antonius: ant ubuntu-one........just for ubuntu :S
[19:21] <midnighthacker> #hvr
[19:21] <nunatak> hello. For a new hardware-configuration I want to use a radeon hd 5450? do it works without problems with ubuntu?
[19:21] <actionparsnip> Antonius; ubuntu related questions not relating to problems with ubuntu are to be discussed in offtopic
[19:21] <midnighthacker> #j #hvr
[19:21] <actionparsnip> Antonius: so good for you....as you say
[19:22] <deadrabbit> hrdcore0x1a4 : did the .ko file and the fireware folder get copied correctly?
[19:22] <evon> hello. how can i get windows to see a ntfs partition mounted in linux?
[19:23] <ithingLinux> is there any way that I can connect trough my mobile broadband connection with 3g / UTMS
[19:23] <usser> rmt, there was a bug in xorg a while ago when gdm picked the first res mode that was specified in xorg.conf, try creating an xorg file with 1920x1080 as the first and only available resolution
[19:23] <chrisloukas> hi
[19:23] <ithingLinux> it connects with GSM
[19:23] <actionparsnip> Nunatak: I suggest you go to www.ati.com and attempt to download the driver. If its there then you will have no issue
[19:23] <macman_> anyone have any other ideas on fixing my dim issue on ubuntu
[19:23] <hanophix33> I cant download and install Samba since its giving me a 404 error via synaptic
[19:24] <Turbolinux> I installed a program which named ''gddrescue''. I am running it on command line client now but what command is needed for rescue data from hard disk?
[19:24] <usser> nunatak, get an nvidia card
[19:24] <usser> hanophix33, run sudo apt-get update
[19:24] <Talon_> hah, guake doesnt work
[19:24] <alfredo_> amule
[19:24] <rmt> usser: Yep - trying all sorts of things with that, PreferredMode etc. It seems to occur after the PreSession scripts are called..
[19:24] <hrdcore0x1a4> deadrabbit: I thought cpying the firmware folder copied the ko file as well.  Thats my fault.  I can't locate that ko file though?
[19:24] <deadrabbit> hrdcore0x1a4 : make sure also that the rtl8192se driver was not blacklisted, check /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[19:25] <actionparsnip> Turbolinux: if the partition and drive show no data then foremost will be a good app too. Why don't you just restore from backups?
[19:25] <actionparsnip> Talon_: run it again. I have to runit twice the first time its ran
[19:25] <pat|nG> system > hardware > Broadcom STA wireless  not activated.....when i try to activate it gives me error.....i already install b43 fwcutter bcmwl-kernel-source
[19:26] <actionparsnip> Talon_: no idea why
[19:26] <nunatak_> actionparsnip: I don't have the card yet, I'll try check the compatibility before I buy it
[19:26] <actionparsnip> Nunatak_: I know but the website is accessible from any pc attatched to the web so you can check
[19:26] <Talon_> oh man, its like spanned across my desktop, i don't like it :/ I just want a tab bar in my gnome-terminal, I'd install Konsole but i really dont want to install all the KDE packages it needs
[19:26] <actionparsnip> Nunatak_: wise for checking compatibility too :)
[19:27] <nunatak_> actionparsnip: ok. I'll see
[19:27] <happyface> what font does the default gnome terminal use?
[19:27] <hrdcore0x1a4> deadrabbit:  Its not listed in the blacklist conf file.  As a side question if I take out usbmouse and usbkeyboard Could that be why my usb ports don't work?
[19:27] <actionparsnip> Talon: you can make it not 100% of the screen width. Terminal supports tabs too you know
[19:28] <webroasters> lol, hey guys, remember me from a few seconds ago. I found a DEB package for RealPlayer 11!! Heres' the link:  http://www.real.com/linux
[19:28] <CAPcap> Is it possible to have applications that install with KDE/GNOME/LXDE only show up in their respective environments with out editing every menu item by hand?
[19:28] <webroasters> I'm an idiot. lol. have a good one guys
[19:28] <Talon_> how do i get the tab bar? I haven't found an option for it to always be there
[19:28] <actionparsnip> hrdcore0x1a4: is the wifi usb attached to a usb hub or direct into your system?
[19:28] <mkny> quick newbie question (I think): I can connect to folders shared from a Win2003 box no problem via the File Browser (Nautilis?) But I don't know how to browse back to them when I'm in something like a dialog box (like attaching something to a gmail message)
[19:28] <happyface> webroasters: why would you want real player?
[19:28] <actionparsnip> Talon_: file -> new tab
[19:28] <hrdcore0x1a4> actionparsnip:  The wifi is pci-e.  But as a side problem my usb ports dont' work either :(
[19:29] <patrick> h
[19:29] <Turbolinux> actionparsnip, I can't do this because I didn't backup datas from my computer's hard disk. I must rescue datas. Do you know needed command for save data with Gddrescue program?
[19:29] <Talon_> yeah, thats dumb, not what im lookin for, i want that tab bar always, and a single click button to lanch a new tab like konsole
[19:29] <Guest69738> b
[19:29] <hrdcore0x1a4> I'm contemplating just trying to get usb to work and maybe buying a usb wireless adapter
[19:29] <actionparsnip> hrdcore0x1a4: gotcha, do you have all latest updates?
[19:29] <hrdcore0x1a4> actionparsnip:  I just updated but I' haven't rebooted yet
[19:29] <actionparsnip> Turbolinux: then the data is disposable
[19:29] <swizzcheez> Grrr -- anyone run into a grub issue where after boot all you get is "GRUB loading." (no stage anything) and the hard drive light goes nuts like it's scanning through something?
[19:30] <hrdcore0x1a4> deadrabbit & actionparsnip:  I'll brb I'm going down for a reboot
[19:30] <swizzcheez> (After boot means after the system gets to GRUB, so H/W seems to be okay)
[19:30] <cHarNe2> hi how to move window up and down in irssi? not using the pgup/pgdn (using mac through shh->screen->isrri)
[19:30] <Turbolinux> So I can't rescue datas isn't it?
[19:30] <CAPcap> Is it possible to have applications that install with KDE/GNOME/LXDE only show up in their respective environments with out editing every menu item by hand?
[19:30] <actionparsnip> Tubolinux: use foremost to get the data off. You may have to use testdisk to create partition flags.
[19:30] <usser> CAPcap, nope
[19:30] <trism> cHarNe2: esc p and esc n
[19:31] <CAPcap> thats lame. well thanks
[19:31] <usser> CAPcap, that's standard compliance kde,gnome,lxde all use freedesktop menu specifications. ie put their programs in the menu in the same manner
[19:31] <actionparsnip> Turbolinux: get a backup system. You have learned the hardest way possible. Imagine if the motor failed and you couldn't even attempt a file restore. Where is your data then?
[19:31] <cHarNe2> trism: THNX xD! :)
[19:32] <gerrin> having problems with mouse working with ubuntu, sometimes the left click stops working
[19:32] <razertek> actionparsnip: how do i run the sh script...(automated install for deps.. for chromium)
[19:32] <happyface> is there a way to quickly switch between single monitors & twinview (nvidia)? (like the win + p in 7)
[19:32] <mkny> any takers? I tried googling it, but the terms are so generic (file, browse, windows share) I couldn't find anything relevant
[19:32] <actionparsnip> Razertek: chmod +x ./script; ./script
[19:33] <actionparsnip> Razertek: just add the chromium daily ppa instead. Easier
[19:33] <CAPcap> usser if i edit them in one environ, is it gonna edit them in all of them?
[19:33] <boxfish> swizzcheez, but it can mean that something has happened to the partitions, or something is getting chewed up. Have you tried the supergrubdisk boot disc. It can be used to boot machines even when grub is screwed
[19:33] <swizzcheez> boxfish: I can see the disks and data using the installer CD, so it looks like the partitions and OS are fine.
[19:33] <usser> CAPcap, in environment? as in right click on the menu -> edit?
[19:34] <swizzcheez> boxfish: It just looks like GRUB can't even get to stage 1.5...
[19:34] <swizzcheez> boxfish: ('cept everything in /boot looks normal)
[19:34] <Turbolinux> I know actionparsnip but I didn't have a free time to do this.
[19:34] <CAPcap> usser i know how to edit. my question is if I take an item off the menu in LXDE or KDE will it also be remove from my GNOME menu?
[19:34] <Sensiva> Is there open source alternative to shoutcast?
[19:35] <boxfish> mkny, you want to mount it on the filesystem
[19:35] <usser> CAPcap, no. i dont know how its done in kde or lxde but when you edit the menu in gnome it doesnt ask for sudo password meaning all the changes that you make only affect your personal account and are not systemwide
[19:35] <loops> Add to Panel / New Panel  no longer work for me in 9.10, any hints?
[19:36] <Issues2315> Hello,  im having some truble with my wireless connection. The problem is that it just disconnects after a while, and it wont connect untill i restart the computer. It's a Acer Aspire One somthing somthing. Anyone had a similar problem?
[19:36] <loops> Issues2315, use to have that problem until installing 9.10
[19:36] <happyface> Issues2315: is it an intel card? are you connected to a 802.11b/g/a/n??
[19:36] <usser> CAPcap, system-wide menu is stored in /usr/share/menu
[19:37] <mkanyicy> is there a pastebin for pictures?
[19:37] <Issues2315> loops, i'm on 9.10 now.        happyface, i do belive its an Intel yes,   Ath5 drivers or somthing.
[19:37] <boxfish> if you use supergrubdisk and it does work, you will then know it grub not something else (and the system will boot) so you can then play with the grub.conf or whatever its called. Last time I had problems it was to do with the new ubuntu using the disks uuid in stead of the old style /dev/sda1 etc
[19:37] <hrdcore0x1a4> deadrabbit:  Alright so I rebooted after updating and when I came into the desktop the wireless was not on and i was like hell ya.  So I cd to the dir of the driver did ./wlan0up and the wireless came up, but still no scan!!!!! ahhhhhhh I'm taking this POS back
[19:38] <mkanyicy> is there a pastebin for pictures?
[19:38] <xangua> mkanyicy: imagebin¿
[19:38] <mkanyicy> is there a pastebin for pictures? i want to paste the screenshot of my problem
[19:38] <swizzcheez> boxfish: Sounds like a plan -- I'll give it a shot.  I'm not learning much more through the live CD anyway... :-/  -- thanks!  :-)
[19:38] <snowborder> hi this my problem,  because when I write !lista or !list does not leave anything? (my English is not one of the best)
[19:38] <mkanyicy> xangua, ok thanks
[19:38] <Trek> mkanyicy: imageshack.com
[19:38] <deadrabbit> hrdcore0x1a4 : i figured that would have worked, maybe realtek did a chipset update on that module of notebook
[19:39] <truthtaco> OkropNick, ive accidentally removed the desktop panel that shows minimized programs (top right, minimized to just the program icon) I cant figure out how to get it back
[19:39] <usser> Sensiva, take a look at icecase
[19:39] <Turbolinux> actionparsnip I ran the program but what must I do now?
[19:39] <usser> Sensiva, err icecast
[19:39] <Sensiva> usser thank you
[19:39] <deadrabbit> hrdcore0x1a4 : what are you using the laptop for?
[19:39] <hrdcore0x1a4> deadrabbit:  Possibly.  After reading all these forums and seeing how many ppl have problems with Realtek I'm disappointed with their products
[19:39] <truthtaco> scratch OkropNick that was a mistake
[19:39] <ta_> I am using evolution, and I would like to delete the files from the server that I delete on evo, but I want to keep a copy of them on server. I was wondering, what effect would the "Disable support for all POP3 extensions" have on my email account
[19:39] <ta_> by files, I meant emails
[19:40] <Liquid-Silence> hi guys
[19:40] <snowborder> hi this my problem,  because when I write !lista or !list does not leave anything? (my English is not one of the best)
[19:40] <OkropNick> truthtaco: no problemo
[19:40] <Liquid-Silence> anyone know why the vpn package is stuffed in karmic?
[19:40] <Liquid-Silence> and is there a fix
[19:40] <hrdcore0x1a4> deadrabbit:  School right now.  I'm a cs major.  Its a fast laptop (i7 with 6mb cache, 4gb of ram)
[19:40] <Nico1985> got a question about a samsung notebook, the function keys dont work (laptop of a friend of mine)
[19:40] <Issues2315> happyface ,  problem seems to accelerate when i'm downloading somthing.
[19:40] <usser> ta_, use imap if your server supports it , it sounds like what you need
[19:41] <ta_> is there any repository app that can help me get my files synchronized?
[19:41] <ska> Can anyone recommend a good groupware application? Need some input. Thanks,
[19:41] <deadrabbit> hrdcore0x1a4 : not sure but check out lenovo, not sure if they have an i7 but i know everything works fine with them
[19:41] <xangua> ta_: ubuntu-one, dropbox¿¿
[19:41] <ska> Well, for Ubuntu yes.
[19:41] <ta_> usser, the problem is that the mail service I have only supports POP3
[19:41] <mkanyicy> hi guys. my kubuntu desktop does not show applications well. here is a screenshot: http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/4710/screenshotxd.png . is there a way to fix this?
[19:41] <Nico1985> does anybody know how to get the function keys going in ubuntu 9.10?
[19:42] <happyface> Nico1985: for your laptop?
[19:42] <Turbolinux> actionparsnip: I ran the program and it's processing with ''stdin'' system message. What I must do now?
[19:42] <usser> ta_, dont think there's an easy way to do it with pop3
[19:42] <Nico1985> happyface, friend of mine
[19:42] <Nico1985> sitting next to me, with his laptop
[19:42] <happyface> Nico1985: it should work with laptop Fn keys automatically
[19:42] <hrdcore0x1a4> deadrabbit:  yeah I'll have to do that.  I appreciate your help man.
[19:42] <Turbolinux> Also thank you for your help.
[19:42] <boxfish> ta_ : have you tried rsync
[19:42] <deadrabbit> hrdcore0x1a4 : sorry couldn't get the wireless working, but i gotta run, time for work. Hope you still stick with linux
[19:43] <Nico1985> really? press FN then use function keys?
[19:43] <happyface> mine works Nico1985
[19:43] <Nico1985> some keys seem to work
[19:43] <Liquid-Silence> fsck the vpn connection in ubuntu sucks
[19:43] <Liquid-Silence> when it works :(
[19:43] <Issues2315> Anyone got a possible solution to my very anoying wifi problem?
[19:43] <Nico1985> but some functions dont work
[19:43] <mkanyicy> hi guys. my kubuntu desktop does not show applications well. here is a screenshot: http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/4710/screenshotxd.png . is there a way to fix this?
[19:44] <Liquid-Silence> ok does ubuntu's vpn actually work?
[19:44] <hrdcore0x1a4> deadrabbit:  4 sho man I've bee using ubuntu for years
[19:44] <guntbert> !list > snowborder
[19:44] <KristianDK> Hello, how do i add multiple ip adresses to my eth1?
[19:45] <KristianDK> i defined one in /etc/interfaces
[19:45] <Nico1985> by the way, i'm pretty impressed by 9.10.. if there are any official ubuntu creaters in here.. i applaud you
[19:45] <maco> Liquid-Silence: er, there are many vpn protocols available. which are you having issues with? vpnc works fine for me
[19:45] <Liquid-Silence> Nico1985: except the vpn package
[19:45] <jophish> If I had a drive, and I used sfdisk to change the partition table, and then I reformatted the new partitions, would this be enough to make them usable?
[19:45] <happyface> echo $UPTIME
[19:45] <happyface> oops
[19:45] <Nico1985> VPN doesnt work yet?
[19:46] <Liquid-Silence> well I setup a connection
[19:46] <Liquid-Silence> and click
[19:46] <Liquid-Silence> nothing
[19:46] <Liquid-Silence> nothing happens
[19:46] <FloodBot4> Liquid-Silence: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:46] <Nico1985> i'm currenltly on OSX, but if my MacBook Pro needs replacing i'm considering either another mac or back to Linux
[19:48] <guntbert> Nico1985: while we are glad that you like what you see please accept that this channel is for ubuntu support only - you might want to talk about your experience in #ubuntu-offtopic though
[19:48] <abx> Does anyone know of any issues on running Ubuntu 9.10 on a Toshiba Satellite A-Series laptop?
[19:48] <Nico1985> oh okay, in that case
[19:48] <Nico1985> i've got another question
[19:49] <Issues2315> Not to be an arse, but i really want an solution to this problem, i dont want to go back to windows because of this.
[19:49] <Lucena> a
[19:49] <Lucena> a
[19:49] <Nico1985> screen brightness keys still dont work
[19:49] <Nico1985> he wants to get some more brightness
[19:50] <Turbolinux> Does anyone know how to rescue data with Foremost program? Thank you.
[19:50] <Nico1985> is there a way to raise the screen brightness other then function keys?
[19:50] <Lucena> hello
[19:50] <Lucena> ola
[19:50] <Lucena> andrea
[19:51] <xangua> !es | Lucena
[19:51] <lysek> hello
[19:51] <Lucena> ola
[19:51] <Lucena> de donde eres
[19:51] <KristianDK> How do i assign multiple static ips to my eth1 from command line?
[19:51] <Lucena> ?¿?¿?¿¿
[19:51] <Plurnay> can someone explain to me how to use my HD without having to authenticate everytime
[19:52] <Lucena> ke?¿?¿
[19:52] <Trek> !spanish | Lucena
[19:52] <xangua> !es > Lucena
[19:52] <lysek> ./tastystatic: error while loading shared libraries: libaudiere-1.9.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:52] <lysek> i have installed that library
[19:52] <Plurnay> can someone explain to me how to use my HD without having to authenticate everytime
[19:52] <erUSUL> !fstab | Plurnay
[19:52] <loris> ciao a tutti
[19:53] <loris> posso fare una domanda
[19:53] <IdleOne> !it | loris
[19:53] <Plurnay> thanks
[19:53] <erUSUL> !it | loris ciao loris wellcome but ...
[19:53] <Nico1985> i'm looking at the power settings, set the brightness to 100%, and unchecked reduce brightness on the battery scheme, i hope that will increase the brightness
[19:53] <Turbolinux> Does anyone know how to use Foremost program? I will be happy if you answer my question. Thank you.
[19:54] <vivekrp__> which is the best Dreamweaver alternative? plz elp me
[19:54] <Trek> !best > vivekrp_
[19:54] <guntbert> Nico1985: that hanges the brightness immediately
[19:54] <Trek> !best > vivekrp__
[19:54] <guntbert> *changes
[19:54] <mkanyicy> my large font problem was due to using gdm instead of kdm, changing that solved it.
[19:54] <Nico1985> hm it didnt change the brightness
[19:55] <lysek> wait, i have a problem that when i installed the libaudiere to be able to play the tastystatic game it does installed the 64 version in lib64, but the game is looking for 32 version in lib 32 , so please help me fix this problem, ok ? :)
[19:55] <guntbert> Nico1985: what notebook is it?
[19:55] <Nico1985> i set the brightness to 100% on AC, and removed all the reduce brightness checks
[19:55] <Nico1985> samsung R530
[19:56] <Nico1985> samsung R530-ja05 to be even more exact
[19:56] <hrdcore0x1a4> Does anybody know why my usb would be reporting it's not accepting address?
[19:56] <Turbolinux> Please help me. I need to receive help.
[19:56] <Trek> !ask | Turbolinux
[19:57] <vivekrp__> i am developing a site using HTML,Javascrip & CSS which editing tool should i use? now i am using KompoZer but it does not support JS. plz help
[19:57] <Trek> Turbolinux, we don't know what your issue is, so be specific
[19:57] <Nico1985> i might look at the reposetories for a application that increases brightness
[19:57] <Trek> vivekrp__, you can write JavaScripts in other programs and import the javascript directly into your site with HTML
[19:58] <vivekrp__> Trek i know that.. i want a tool like dreamweaver.?!
[19:58] <Trek> vivekrp__, you tried installing Dreamweaver onto Wine?
[19:58] <frsoares> hello everyone
[19:58] <Trek> !hi | frsoares
[19:58] <Turbolinux> Windows got damaged when I was installing an Anti-Virus program. I need to rescue datas from hard disk. Now I'm trying to rescue datas from hard disk with Ubuntu.
[19:59] <vivekrp__> trek yeah.. i tried but its not working... :( is there any other tool like that?
[19:59] <frsoares> does anyone know anything that might suddenly make your /etc/init.d directory disappear?
[19:59] <Trek> vivekrp__, I can't think of any that work like Dreamweaver
[19:59] <Turbolinux> Trek, I wrote my problem. Can you help me?
[19:59] <Trek> vivekrp__, if you like, though, I can show you the code to import a javascript file directly into your page
[20:00] <Trek> Turbolinux, hold on a second
[20:00] <vivekrp__> trek ok. how?
[20:00] <tomtom2> does Ubuntu support paravirtulization?
[20:00] <Nico1985> hm, cant find a way yet
[20:00] <Trek> vivekrp__, i'm sending you a PM, so be prepared to look for a new tab or something
[20:00] <guntbert> Nico1985: look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/212800  (last entry #15)
[20:00] <Turbolinux> OK Trek. I will wait.
[20:01] <vivekrp__> trek ok
[20:01] <tomtom2> or is it hardware virtulization only?
[20:01] <frsoares> TurboLinux: have you got Ubuntu installed or are using a Live-CD?
[20:02] <tomtom2> anyone?
[20:03] <Trek> Turbolinux, you'll need to mount the drive in Linux to access the data
[20:03] <selffik> Hello! can somebody help me with routing?
[20:03] <lysek> Do you know any game repository that have all new games updated ? for example alienware, which i cant find in synaptic.
[20:03] <Turbolinux> It's already mounted but it seems there is no data.
[20:03] <xangua> lysek: playdeb
[20:03] <kostkon> lysek, http://www.playdeb.net/
[20:03] <Turbolinux> So I must recover datas from hard disk.
[20:04] <Liquid-Silence> hmmm ok got vpn working
[20:04] <darksea> how can i telnet to yahoomail or gmail
[20:04] <Trek> Turbolinux, then the issue is that the drive got wiped out.  its going to be near impossible to recover your data then
[20:04] <Liquid-Silence> you HAVE to restart the network manager
[20:04] <Trek> darksea: you can't.  yahoomail and gmail are protected from telnet.
[20:04] <tomtom2> dark: why would u want to?
[20:05] <frsoares> Turbolinux, there are some tools that try to recover data from scratch
[20:05] <tomtom2> dark: u may be able to telnet to port 25 and talk smtp
[20:05] <darksea> i working on b.tech project
[20:06] <Turbolinux> Oh no! Is there no solution now Trek? Frsoares can you tell me tools names?
[20:06] <llutz> darksea: telnet pop.mail.yahoo.de 110
[20:06] <Nico1985> hm, there must be some sort of service to use smartdimmer
[20:06] <Liquid-Silence> omg
[20:06] <Nico1985> it's pretty strange
[20:06] <Liquid-Silence> I cant copy and paste between my linux desktop and the vpn
[20:06] <Liquid-Silence> lol
[20:07] <infid> does ubuntu have telenet
[20:07] <Liquid-Silence> infid: client or server?
[20:07] <Myrtti> infid: open a terminal and type telnet
[20:07] <darksea> liutz: -ERR [AUTH] Error logging in. Please visit http://mail.yahoo.com
[20:08] <Liquid-Silence> damn this is annoying
[20:08] <Trek> !language > Liquid-Silence
[20:08] <Turbolinux> Trek don't I have chance for rescue data? I must do something to solve this problem.
[20:09] <Liquid-Silence> sorry Trek
[20:09] <Trek> Turbolinux: there's little chance for data rescue.  However, its possible there are Windows-based recovery programs that might work
[20:09] <infid> Myrtti:  i said telenet
[20:09] <Trek> emphasis on might, Turbolinux
[20:09] <Trek> and no problem, Liquid-Silence, just wanted to remind you
[20:09] <Trek> :)
[20:10] <Liquid-Silence> but why can;t I copy and paste!
[20:10] <Liquid-Silence> lol
[20:10] <Nico1985> hm still no brightness controls here
[20:10] <m_> hi! I can't get my PPTP VPN connection to work. Network Manager is configured correctly but I can't get VPN to work. I get a "can't start service" message. Please HELP!! :-)
[20:10] <jolaren> When trying to login to my server I get this error : init: tty1 main process (924) killed by SEV signal
[20:10] <Turbolinux> With Wine program Trek?
[20:10] <Trek> unsure, Turbolinux.  I'm unsure what program will work, thats a bit outside my experience
[20:11] <vivekrp__> does bluefish supports preview option?
[20:11] <Nico1985> it's asking for DDC/CI support, any idea what that's all about? (increasing screen brightness)
[20:12] <vivekrp__> does bluefish supports preview option?
[20:12] <lwieise87> hello all! I'm having problems with my microphone in ubuntu 9.10. can anyone help me please?
[20:13] <_710m> as in
[20:13] <mescalinum> hi, I just tried the 10.04 update, but on reboot I have a black screen just after "GRUB loading". isn't ESC supposed to bring up a grub menu / grub options for debugging???? [it doesn't work here]
[20:13] <Pici> mescalinum : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.4 support/discussion.
[20:14] <mescalinum> Pici: ok, tnx
[20:14] <vivekrp__> how can i repair my windows?
[20:14] <Nico1985> anyone got any idea how to manage the screen brightness?
[20:14] <lysek2> kostkon:  is it possible to install the game directly from playdeb website?
[20:14] <darksea> hi all  i am trying to develop mail client what needs to be done pls give me any direction
[20:14] <Nico1985> it's not even changing when the adapter is plugged in (it's a notebook off course)
[20:15] <lwieise87> I know the mic is plugged into the right port because it works when I boot into winxp. ubuntu doesn't get any input from it though.
[20:15] <lysek2> kostkon: i tried with opera and konqueror
[20:15] <Callum_> mescalinum: this channel does not provide support for 10.04 at this stage as it is a development version, try #ubuntu+1
[20:15] <kostkon> lysek2, you need to add its repository first. just follow the instructions given on the site
[20:15] <zerozillion> hey ppl, anybody familiar with lm_sensors?
[20:15] <llutz> darksea: why don't you take sources of existing clients as examples?
[20:15] <Callum_> oh, ninja'd damn...
[20:15] <kostkon> lysek2, that is, here: http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/all/#how_to_install
[20:15] <Estrella> Hello
[20:16] <Trek> !hi | Estrella
[20:16] <darksea> llutz : where can i get the source
[20:16] <freeride> guys, how to wget few files?
[20:16] <lysek2> kostkon: i know, i know, i did that, but how it should work, with a plugin or smth?
[20:16] <Estrella> yes
[20:16] <frsoares> hey, does anyone know any current bug that might erase /etc/init.d and only let you use the file system as a Read-only file system?
[20:16] <llutz> darksea: project home, apt
[20:16] <Estrella> hablo español
[20:16] <Estrella> hola
[20:16] <freeride> guys, how to wget few files?
[20:16] <CDrone> hello
[20:16] <Estrella> gente
[20:16] <lysek2> kostkon: i am clicking on install now and it does open a new tab and nothing else
[20:16] <kostkon> lysek2, it works in ubuntu, i don;t know about kubuntu :(
[20:16] <Pici> !es | Estrella
[20:17] <freeride> guys, how to wget few files?
[20:17] <rmt> My issue from before was solved.  gnome-settings-daemon also sets the video mode.. however, for nvidia users with nvidia-settings installed, it asks the user if they want to run that instead to configure video preferences.. most people logically choose to run nvidia-settings.. however, you need to say "no" to set the video mode that you want.
[20:17] <lysek2> kostkon: i have ubuntu
[20:17] <lysek2> kostkon: i have installed kde manually
[20:17] <kostkon> lysek2, hmm
[20:17] <Estrella> bay bay
[20:17] <frsoares> have anyone experienced a sudden deletion of /etc/init.d, as a whole?
[20:17] <llutz> darksea: i.e. apt-get source mutt alpine
[20:17] <CDrone> if i have a USB-run version of ubuntu .. can i get windows installed aswell without booting?
[20:17] <llutz> frsoares: shouldn't happen
[20:18] <kostkon> lysek2, alternatively, you can install them using synaptic now that you have added the playdeb repo
[20:18] <Liquid-Silence> nice vpn works 100%
[20:18] <Liquid-Silence> do people still use emerald?
[20:18] <S3CURiTy> anybody here having problem with ubuntu 9.10 ? i formated my netbook over 5 times in 2 days , after updates reboot and all i got is : no botable partition !!!
[20:18] <darksea> llutz  i am trying
[20:18] <maco> Liquid-Silence: hopefully not
[20:18] <frsoares> llutz: well, it happened to a friend minutes ago
[20:18] <Liquid-Silence> maco:  lol
[20:18] <maco> Liquid-Silence: its not been under development since 2007 or so
[20:18] <Liquid-Silence> the gnome themes are abit crappy
[20:18] <freeride> guys, how to wget few files?
[20:18] <dragon> What's the recommended size for the physical boot partition?
[20:18] <llutz> frsoares: did he play with sudo + rm? :)
[20:19] <dragon> freeride: wget url1 url2...
[20:19] <frsoares> llutz: he said he didn't :)
[20:19] <freeride> dragon thanks a lot, man
[20:19] <llutz> frsoares: disk-/fs-errors?
[20:19] <maco> Liquid-Silence: upstream compiz threw emerald away years ago.  so all those crashes it had (oh goodness did it crash!) aren't likely to ever be fixed
[20:19] <buttons840> what's the best way to go about defining my own tmp directory?  mainly i want to make my Downloads folder cleared every time; i suppose the easiest would just be to use a /tmp/Downloads as my download folder?
[20:19] <Travis-42> when I enable compiz, all program titlebars go missing. is there any way to fix this?
[20:19] <frsoares> llutz: he was powering off his notebook when, suddenly, there was no init.d/rc
[20:20] <dragon> Travis-42: use metacity instead of compiz?
[20:20] <venuziina> :)
[20:20] <CAPcap> KDE is bloated and useless to me. how do i completely remove the kubuntu-desktop?
[20:20] <lolo> ola
[20:20] <m_> how do I debug VPN connection? :-)
[20:20] <Travis-42> dragon: I could, but I really want to use the "put" and a couple other features of compiz to make it easier to place windows across three monitors
[20:20] <lolo> HOLA
[20:20] <darksea> thanks!!!!!!!!!! llutz: may be its working
[20:20] <llutz> !puregnome | CAPcap
[20:20] <lolo> hello
[20:20] <CAPcap> thanks llutz
[20:20] <dragon> !es | lolo
[20:21] <CAPcap> llutz i already have gnome, do i need the last part?
[20:21] <frsoares> llutz: well, i don't know about disk-/fs-errors
[20:21] <llutz> CAPcap: i don't know
[20:21] <dragon> buttons840: yes, and you might want to symlink ~/downloads to your /tmp/downloads
[20:21] <llutz> frsoares: let him do a fsck
[20:21] <Estrella> Hello
[20:21] <lnx4ver> Travis-42 you have ccsm installed?
[20:21] <Nico1985> any idea what DDC/CI support is?
[20:21] <Travis-42> lnx4ver: yes
[20:21] <xangua> !hi | Estrella
[20:21] <lolo> ola
[20:22] <buttons840> dragon, true, thanks
[20:22] <dragon> CAPcap: you still have to do the last part.
[20:22] <xangua> !es > lolo
[20:22] <lolo> hay alguien español?
[20:22] <Estrella> si yo
[20:22] <frsoares> llutz: i'll call him and ask him
[20:22] <lolo> como te llamas
[20:22] <Estrella> yo hablo español
[20:22] <lnx4ver> Travis-42 did you enabled decoration plugin?
[20:22] <CAPcap> ok thanks dragon
[20:22] <Estrella> Estrella
[20:22] <xangua> !es | Estrella lolo
[20:22] <lolo> ok
[20:22] <frsoares> llutz: thanks. :)
[20:22] <Travis-42> lnx4ver: yep, it's enabled.
[20:22] <Estrella> hola
[20:23] <dragon> What's the recommended size for the physical boot partition?
[20:23] <Estrella> hola hablo español
[20:23] <lolo> ok
[20:23] <Myrtti> !english | Estrella, lolo
[20:23] <guntbert> Trek: as an aside from #freenode: there is #xchat too :)
[20:23] <lwieise87> can anyone help me with a microphone problem? ubuntu 9.10 doesn't get any input from it and I know it's in the right port. works fine in winxp. it doesn't show up under "Choose a device for sound input:" in Sound Preferences > Input.
[20:23] <xangua> !es > Estrella
[20:23] <Estrella> what?
[20:24] <lolo> como lo pongo en español'
[20:24] <lolo> ?
[20:24] <Pici> Estrella: This channel is english only. Please use #ubuntu-es for spanish.
[20:24] <dragon> Estrella and lolo are clearly trolling.
[20:24]  * Nico1985 hates beeing ignored
[20:24] <Estrella> hello
[20:24] <frsoares> Estrella: holla
[20:24] <Raydiation> how can i change the filerigths for user apache to read?
[20:24] <Pici> Nico1985: Perhaps no one knows what that is.
[20:24] <Estrella> what time is it?
[20:24] <guntbert> Nico1985: you are not ignored - only it seems no one is able to help
[20:24] <Nico1985> so no one even responds
[20:24] <Nico1985> right...
[20:25] <urthmover> non ubuntu question (because there is nobody in the #damnsmalllinux room)  Will someone tell me how I can boot damnsmalllinux straight to a command prompt...and avoid having to start X/fluxbox?
[20:25] <Estrella> bay bay
[20:26] <Pici> urthmover: We cannot support DSL here.  ##linux would be a more appropriate channel to ask in if their official channel is not being helpful.
[20:26] <urthmover> Pici: good suggestion Pici  thanks  I'll try there
[20:27] <knxville> Anyone know how to use teamspeak 3 in linux, first of all its making my comp using 100%
[20:27] <knxville> second, there is no sound
[20:27] <mattiaceredi> hi
[20:27] <cebo> wenas
[20:27] <xangua> !es > cebo
[20:27] <MissPiggy> can anyone give me some hint how to fix? grub-setup: warn: This GPT partition label has no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible!
[20:28] <dragon> Is a boot partition of 100MB good enough for Ubuntu installation, considering having more than one kernels in /boot during upgrades etc.?
[20:28] <MissPiggy> grub-setup: error: Cannot read `/grub/core.img' correctly
[20:28] <mattiaceredi> w fedora
[20:28] <sahil> any idea why an install hangs at 33% during partitioning-ive tried on multiple computers of the same config
[20:28] <guntbert> mattiaceredi: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[20:29] <mattiaceredi> sorry bad paste
[20:29] <guntbert> sahil: did you !md5sum check the iso?
[20:29] <dragon> sahil: a little more detail would help. What config are you trying?
[20:29] <knxville> Anyone know how to set up teamspeak3 properly? The sound is buggy, and makes my PC run 100%..
[20:29] <sahil> i did an md5, did memtest
[20:29] <speedxxxcore> what size should /tmp be?
[20:30] <abx> what is the swap in system monitor?
[20:30] <erUSUL> !swap | abx
[20:30] <Turbolinux> I'm using Foremost data recovery program for saving my data. How can I configure the program for transferring data to my portable hard disk?
[20:30] <dragon> speedxxxcore: at least 2 GiB, and depending on your typical system uptime.
[20:30] <hrdcore0x1a4> Any ideas: usb not accepting address?
[20:30] <hiexpo> urthmover, - http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/other-distributions/148310-damn-small-linux-boot-issues.html
[20:30] <speedxxxcore> dragon: is /tmp the same as swap area?
[20:30] <bobbytek> Anyone know how to copy a terminal window?
[20:31] <bobbytek> ctrl+a doesn't seem to cut it
[20:31] <urthmover> hiexpo: ok checking there  thx
[20:31] <hiexpo> yep
[20:31] <hiexpo> hello all
[20:31] <speedxxxcore> dragon: should one use ext2 on the /tmp?  What does the /tmp do?
[20:31] <nowy2> Good nights from Europe... i've a 'houston'
[20:31] <grendal_prime_> hey i need to be able to put a dvd into one machine and then play it on another amchine on the network. Do i have to encode it to do that.  Or is there a probram for streeming on the fly for that sort of thing?
[20:32] <guntbert> bobbytek: gnome-terminla has a menu too - the shortcuts are there too
[20:32] <Pici> speedxxxcore: Most users have no need for a separate /tmp partition.
[20:32] <syed> Hello?
[20:32] <speedxxxcore> Pici: what does the /tmp do?
[20:32] <nowy2> where can i get help about problems  with Dell notebooks&Ubuntu ?
[20:32] <xangua> !ask | nowy2
[20:32] <speedxxxcore> Pici: I just want to speed stuff up. if tmp is for temp files. I like to go with ext2 and raid 0
[20:32] <Trek> nowy2: ubuntuforums.org or here
[20:32] <syed> umm i have a problem with installing stuff from ubuntu software center
[20:32] <hiexpo> man gnome-terminal
[20:32] <sahil> dragon: i did all the tests md5 and media check, im now trying 9.04
[20:32] <syed> it says the package as failed or somthing
[20:32] <Pici> speedxxxcore: /tmp is for temporary files.
[20:32] <jimcooncat> I thought /tmp used tempfs
[20:32] <syed> but it always is installed
[20:33] <speedxxxcore> Pici: so then it might just speed stuff up? I plan on 8gb raid 0 ext2
[20:33] <Myrtti> jimcooncat: it's not necessarily or even in most cases a separate partition
[20:33] <boxfish> grendal_prime_ : you shoudl be able to share a mounted dvd across a network and then read it from another machine
[20:33] <hiexpo> syed, why did it say failed what error
[20:33] <nowy2> i've installed Karmic_64 on a dell studio 1557 and i've problems with Wifi adaptor and sound volume special keys :(
[20:33] <MrsApple> does anybody know the az loco channel name?
[20:33] <syed> umm
[20:33] <bobbytek> guntbert, No dice
[20:33] <dragon> speedxxxcore: if you have enough RAM, you can mount /tmp on your /dev/ram0 . I haven't seen real speed improvements doing that though.
[20:34] <dragon> MrsApple: #ubuntu-us-az ?
[20:34] <MrsApple> yes. thx dragon
[20:34] <mechtn> hey
[20:34] <lekefly> How do i get that dock http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=340866
[20:34] <hiexpo> do you have another operation open synaptic?
[20:34] <speedxxxcore> dragon: ah, but is raid0 unessary?
[20:34] <mechtn> what terminal commands can i use to spit out all the settings on my video card?
[20:34] <lekefly> How do i get that dock http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=340866
[20:34] <jrib> mechtn: why?
[20:34] <jief-> hello.i manage a fairly large park of ubuntu servers. i was wondering what people used to patch their systems? i need something central. Please don't mention Landscape as I know already about that tool.
[20:34] <syed> hiexpo, it says package operation failed
[20:34] <mechtn> like i used a cat command to dump abunch of stuff about my codec#0 for sound
[20:34] <guntbert> bobbytek: edit/select all - then <shift><ctrl> c works here
[20:35] <dragon> speedxxxcore: if you use programs that heavily rely on /tmp, then it'd make sense. Otherwise, yes, it's unnecessary.
[20:35] <mechtn> jrib - just wanting to look through it and see what all it says
[20:35] <hiexpo> what package?
[20:35] <guntbert> !who | hiexpo
[20:35] <jrib> mechtn: maybe lshw but I don't really know what you are looking for
[20:35] <syed> whenever i isntall or uninstall
[20:35] <syed> it says it
[20:36] <dragon> !enter | syed
[20:36] <hiexpo> guntbert, sorry i know better
[20:36] <speedxxxcore> dragon: I also run the swap area as raid0, now that will make swapping twice as fast, if memory runs out? Right?
[20:36] <guntbert> hiexpo: np :)
[20:36] <dragon> speedxxxcore: how much memory do you have?
[20:36] <MrsApple> hey, think anyone can help me with a flash issue? im on ubuntu 9.04, and it wont let me go on youtube or anything like that. i just dl the new version of adobe flash player but its STILL not working. any thoughts?
[20:36] <speedxxxcore> dragon: 4gb
[20:36] <bobbytek> guntbert, I don't have a select all :(
[20:36] <jrib> MrsApple: restart your browser
[20:36] <syed> So, is there a way i can fix this problem?
[20:37] <dragon> speedxxxcore: you'd never even use the swap practically, so it doesn't matter even if you don't have a swap.
[20:37] <syed> btw it wont even let me log into facebook anymore too, i tried it on my other computer and it let me on but on this it wouldnt
[20:37] <xangua> MrsApple: install it from repositories
[20:37] <sahil> ok i just tried installing with 9.04 (was using 9.10 earlier), and partitioning still hangs at 33%
[20:37] <hiexpo> syed, have you done system update / upgrade and update?
[20:37] <Turbolinux> How I can configure Foremost program for transferring data to my portable hard disk? I need to backup my data. Please answer question.
[20:38] <MrsApple> i did install it form repositories. ill try restarting the browser. if that doesnt work, any other suggestions?
[20:38] <syed> Hiexpo: yes i have
[20:38] <dragon> speedxxxcore: swap is the amount of memory you wish you had. If you never fill your existing one, you never get to it.
[20:38] <FabioTheApe> hey do you guys know a good place where i can find out more about the cli?
[20:38] <jrib> MrsApple: come back
[20:38] <syed> i tried it a few mins ago and it said i was updated.
[20:38] <mechtn> jrib: settings like the amount of memory it has and things like that..
[20:38] <jrib> mechtn: lshw probably tells you that
[20:38] <knxville> What program do you guys use when gaming and voip?
[20:38] <hiexpo> syed, are all your repositories enabled?
[20:38] <mechtn> jrib - also i want to find out if its speedsteping probably.. or does ubuntu speedstep ?
[20:39] <syed> Hiexpo: i do not no, how can i cheack
[20:39] <Trek> knxville: nothing for Linux (I know, I blasphemed)
[20:39] <wormsik> hello...I have small problem...I have got ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop...my SWAP was 1GB, but when I tried to hibernate my laptop, sometimes it freeze and say: "Not enough swap" ...so I resize my SWAP to 3.7 GB (my RAM is 3GB), but now I can't hibernate anymore...it looks well, but after power on, it won't restore session, but started new...does anyone know somethink?
[20:39] <Pici> Trek: I've heard good things about Mumble
[20:39] <MrsApple> still not working jrib.
[20:39] <FabioTheApe> now where then...
[20:39] <jrib> MrsApple: what ubuntu version?
[20:40] <xangua> MrsApple: do you use a  64 bits OS¿
[20:40] <hiexpo> syed, go to system/adm/system sources and check to see that all are checked
[20:40] <dragon> MrsApple: are you unable to go to youtube.com at all, or is it only the videos that aren't working?
[20:40] <MrsApple> its 9.04
[20:40] <MrsApple> i can go on youtube but it tells me i need to install the newest version of flash player
[20:40] <dragon> !flash | MrsApple
[20:40] <jrib> MrsApple: pastebin: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[20:40] <MrsApple> and no
[20:40] <MrsApple> its 32.
[20:40] <toastedmilk> libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib32/dri/swrast_dri.so failed (/usr/lib32/dri/swrast_dri.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32)
[20:41] <llutz> Turbolinux: cd /path/to/your/external ; foremost -t all -i /path/to/image.dd
[20:41] <skypce> hi , have some like dhcp forge (mac adress scanning) for linux?
[20:41] <syed> hiexpo: nope, source code and cdrom with ubuntu 9.10 arnt cheacked
[20:41] <skypce> hi , have some like dhcp force (mac adress scanning) for linux?
[20:41] <guntbert> bobbytek: thats how it looks here http://imagebin.org/82865
[20:41] <wormsik> hello...I have small problem...I have got ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop...my SWAP was 1GB, but when I tried to hibernate my laptop, sometimes it freeze and say: "Not enough swap" ...so I resize my SWAP to 3.7 GB (my RAM is 3GB), but now I can't hibernate anymore...it looks well, but after power on, it won't restore session, but started new...does anyone know somethink?
[20:41] <StkTrdr-> is there any way to kill a process from the terminal?
[20:42] <llutz> StkTrdr-: kill, killall, pkill
[20:42] <StkTrdr-> thanks :)
[20:42] <erUSUL> StkTrdr-: pkill programname
[20:42] <hiexpo> StkTrdr-, killall
[20:43] <StkTrdr-> man, firefox locked everything up... can;t even open a terminal window
[20:43] <hiexpo> StkTrdr-, what do ya want to stop
[20:43] <kurou> Has anyone out there got the Strata40 theme for Firefox 3.6 working? I may be missing something obvious... all I get is a black background.
[20:43] <syed> hiexpo: can u also help me with my facebook problem
[20:43] <hiexpo> syed, sure
[20:43] <syed> hiexpo: it would load after i had loged in
[20:43] <StkTrdr-> hiexpo..  the firefox process
[20:44] <MrsApple> jrib, what do i do with apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree??
[20:44] <jrib> !pastebin | MrsApple
[20:44] <syed> hiexpo: btw, im still having the pachage error
[20:44] <bobbytek> guntbert, ah, I have Terminal 2.22.1
[20:44] <bobbytek> Thanks for that!
[20:44] <slashroot> I have a WD external drive that comes from windows, but was lent to a MacOS user who apparently accidentally re-partitioned the drive to HFS.  It now will now mount on windows, but the owner brought it to me, and I find that it does mount on ubuntu.  However, I cannot read anything but the new HFS+ partition.  What tool might I use to examine the deleted partition if that's possible?
[20:44] <nowy2> anyone with a Dell Studio 1557 ? I have problems wih WiFi key & Sound keys
[20:45] <hiexpo> StkTrdr-, firefox killall or firefox down
[20:45] <KaiForce> slashroot:  the new partition overwrote the old, correct?
[20:45] <GB00> Can someone give me some advice? I believe my flash player is corrupted, and I can't remove it.
[20:45] <hiexpo> syed, have you tried rebooting since this started ?
[20:45] <slashroot> KaiForce: Yes - the new partition is the entire drive.
[20:45] <syed> hiexpo: several times.
[20:45] <MrsApple> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/367066/
[20:46] <jrib> MrsApple: it's not installed...
[20:46] <KaiForce> slashroot:  i think you are out of luck
[20:46] <hiexpo> syed, what had you done prior to this problem ?
[20:46] <KaiForce> especially if they wrote data to that HFS partition
[20:46] <lysek> well i have such an error when i try to run a game: bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed . can You help?
[20:46] <lolo> donde entro para español
[20:46] <syed> hiexpo, i have deleted my firefox history everytime and i repot the computer tons of times.
[20:46] <usser> slashroot, before you do anything at all. dd the entire drive to a file somewhere
[20:47] <xangua> lolo: /j #ubuntu-es
[20:47] <guntbert> bobbytek: you're welcome :-) but I supposed that was available for a long time
[20:47] <MrsApple> but ive tried installing it like 2 or 3 times and it told me it was sucessfully installed jrib!!
[20:47] <syed> hiexpo, for the installation problem, i tried to install them with terminal
[20:47] <jrib> MrsApple: well it's not installed now
[20:47] <usser> slashroot, i cant suggest any recovery tools but back it up first with dd just in case
[20:47] <saraqual> Ola guys
[20:47] <syed> and terminal would send back errors too
[20:47] <hiexpo> syed, go into synaptic package manager and try installing or uninstalling through it
[20:47] <syed> k
[20:47] <knxville> Do anyone have any experience using teamspeak2 on ubuntu? Mine is totally fucked..
[20:48] <erUSUL> !language | knxville
[20:48] <MrsApple> jrib, how would i go about installing it then?
[20:48] <mattiaceredi> hi
[20:48] <jrib> MrsApple: how did you install it before?
[20:48] <MrsApple> i went to the website. and did the apt install
[20:49] <S3CURiTy> do it again than
[20:49] <MrsApple> ive done it twice
[20:49] <wormsik> hello...I have small problem...I have got ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop...my SWAP was 1GB, but when I tried to hibernate my laptop, sometimes it freeze and say: "Not enough swap" ...so I resize my SWAP to 3.7 GB (my RAM is 3GB), but now I can't hibernate anymore...it looks well, but after power on, it won't restore session, but started new...does anyone know somethink?
[20:50] <bobbytek> is it possible to upgrade gnome-terminal?
[20:50] <jrib> MrsApple: do you know the main way to install software in ubuntu from the repositories?
[20:50] <lwieise87> are there any free/open-source language learning programs/projects?
[20:51] <saraqual> Guys, sorry to bug about this, but where can I find the log file that would tell me why my evolution client is giving me the finger when I try and open it?
[20:51] <MrsApple> jrib, no.... not that i can remember.
[20:51] <jrib> !software | MrsApple
[20:51] <spydon__> my mouses keeps on freezing, I thought it was the bluetooth mouse first but now I tried with a usb mouse and it freezes too! It happens about 5 minutes after startup and the keyboard keeps working just fine...
[20:51] <jrib> MrsApple: well the main way you should be installing software is by using APT.  A good frontend is System -> Administration -> Synaptic (see ubottu)
[20:52] <syed> hiexpo, is there a way i can access my root recycle bin?
[20:52] <olorin__> Hello ! does anybody knows how get since how much time the soft limit is exceeded by a given user while dealing with quota management
[20:53] <MrsApple> how do i enable on the multiverse
[20:53] <hiexpo> syed it should be on the lower right hand corner bar
[20:53] <olorin__> syed: as root, cd /root/.Trash
[20:53] <jrib> MrsApple: it's already enabled
[20:54] <syed> olorin__ it was denied
[20:54] <toastedmilk> libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib32/dri/swrast_dri.so failed (/usr/lib32/dri/swrast_dri.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32)
[20:54] <syed> hiexpo: i ment the root.
[20:54] <saraqual> Evolution Client, need a log file to see why it's not opening, where can I look for the log
[20:54] <olorin__> syed: did you try this with the root account ?
[20:55] <kurou> Has anyone out there got the Strata40 theme for Firefox 3.6 working? I may be missing something obvious... all I get is a black background.
[20:55] <syed> olorin__ i do not no how to acess it
[20:55] <hiexpo> syed, sudo cd/root/Trash
[20:55] <olorin__> syed: try 'sudo -s' ant type your user passwd
[20:55] <syed> hiexpo: command not found
[20:56] <hiexpo> syed, ya mine to one sec
[20:56] <obaid> i check in my pc, /root dir didnt have trash folder
[20:56] <syed> olorin__ directory not found
[20:56] <obaid> syed, if you removed something as root with rm then forget it
[20:57] <knxville> Anyone know how to make teamspeak2 or 3 to work properly under ubuntu?
[20:57] <olorin__> syed: obaid : so you never logged in gnome with the root account (if exists ...)
[20:57] <heauxbag> is there a way to make sure the display is set on reboot even if a monitor is not plugged in?
[20:57] <obaid> no
[20:57] <syed> olorin__ nope
[20:57] <olorin__> syed: so there is no trash ...
[20:57] <militant> hi folks.  quick question.  if i have a core 2 duo, i should get the 64bit installer, yes?  and there's no added complications with flash or other software by using 64bit?
[20:58] <erUSUL> militant: no main problems. what to get depends mainly in you RAM
[20:58] <xover> if i have the kernel <IP_ADDRESS> and the patch <IP_ADDRESS> is that going to work?
[20:58] <obaid> knxville, i search google "teamspeak 2 ubuntu" and got alot of results, can u query google there ?
[20:58] <militant> erUSUL: ok cool.  it's a laptop, 2gb that i don't plan to expand
[20:58] <Chr1z> I am a long time rhel user and am going to try out ubuntu at home... coming from rhel...used to /etc/rc.d/init.d/ etc I'm told some of that is different.. any other major differences as far as managing the system goes?
[20:59] <erUSUL> xover: no; you have to reverse the .6 patch and apply .7 on top of 2.6.32
[20:59] <obaid> rhel ?
[20:59] <olorin__> syed: why do you want to access a sol called root trash ? *-)
[20:59] <e-DIO-t> Chr1z: yum vs apt :P
[20:59] <obaid> redhat ?
[20:59] <e-DIO-t> (Red Hat)
[20:59] <erUSUL> militant: then 32 bit would be enough
[20:59] <Chr1z> e-DIO-t: that about it?
[20:59] <Chr1z> obaid: yes... redhat enterprise (as opposed to fedora) :)
[20:59] <erUSUL> !info ketchup | militant
[20:59] <obaid> different packages only i guess
[21:00] <militant> erUSUL: there's no performance or capability or security differences, with my setup in mind?
[21:00] <e-DIO-t> yep: and...what else...perhaps chkconfig insted of rc.d?
[21:00] <Tyxow> hi all!
[21:00] <obaid> rc.d
[21:00] <erUSUL> militant: no that i know of
[21:00] <xover> erUSUL: ah is the 4th number a release number?
[21:00] <obaid> in kernel version numbering ?
[21:00] <erUSUL> xover: is the estable release number
[21:01] <militant> erUSUL: excellent, thanks for the help.  i'm an on/off linux user, debian and slackware primarily, but ubuntu is better for a 'just works' laptop setup.  i think i'll be good now.  thanks again
[21:01] <Chr1z> e-DIO-t: so for example.. now to start apache I'd do /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd start -- what'd be the way to do that on ubuntu?
[21:01] <Tyxow> i have a problem ... don't find the source of kernel 2.6.31-18
[21:01] <obaid> same
[21:01] <obaid> oops
[21:01] <erUSUL> militant: no problem
[21:01] <obaid> /etc/init.d/apache start
[21:01] <erUSUL> !info linux-source
[21:01] <olorin__> Chr1z: /etc/init.d/apache start
[21:01] <erUSUL> Tyxow: is in /usr/src/ ?
[21:01] <e-DIO-t> cha0s: invoke.rc "apache"
[21:01] <e-DIO-t> guess.
[21:01] <Chr1z> Ok.. so the rc.d just goes away.. other than that it's basically the same?
[21:01] <e-DIO-t> anyway i'm a noob :)
[21:02] <obaid> yep
[21:02] <usser> Chr1z, eh why not service httpd start works both in redhat and ubuntu
[21:02] <olorin__> Chr1z: with 9.10 you can also use 'service apache(2) start'
[21:02] <FabioTheApe> the kernel is only 3 kbs big?
[21:02] <obaid> like in Centos
[21:02] <Chr1z> usser: yes.. but I'm wanting to learn what paths are different between the two..
[21:02] <usser> Chr1z, oh my bad
[21:02] <Tyxow> i have found only version: 2.6.31
[21:02] <Chr1z> usser: no... thanks for the suggestion...
[21:03] <Tyxow> from ubuntu's updates
[21:03] <Andorin> When I try to send email on Evolution, with both gmail and Hotmail, it hangs forever on "sending message 1 of 1" and eventually fails. Why?
[21:03] <e-DIO-t> Chr1z: substantially they follow the same standard for fs folders.
[21:03] <FabioTheApe> Andorin, check your smtp settings
[21:03] <erUSUL> Andorin: bad server settings ? looks like it times out
[21:03] <Chr1z> usser: I'm just trying to figure out what all is going to be different from the rhel systems I use daily...
[21:03] <FabioTheApe> make sure they are correct
[21:03] <obaid> check logs
[21:03] <Tyxow> what's the linux-meta?
[21:03] <MrsApple>  GAAAAH. im so frustrated!! i have installed it 4 times now and if i go on youtube it keeps telling me that i either have java scripting turned off (and we checked its all enabled or whatever) or that we dont have the newest version.
[21:03] <Andorin> FabioTheApe: I'm pretty sure they are... I have it sending to the smtp server smtp.live.com, which apparently is the right server...
[21:03] <MrsApple> jrib
[21:04] <Chr1z> e-DIO-t: Ok... I figured it couldn't be too much difference..
[21:04] <syed> hiexpo, so was there a fix to my facebook problem?
[21:04] <Chr1z> Thanks guys.. I appreciate the info...
[21:04] <usser> Chr1z, not much actually. /etc/network/interfaces in ubuntu controls network settings, not sure of equivalent for RH
[21:04] <jrib> MrsApple: pastebin the same command I asked you about before
[21:04] <FabioTheApe> Andorin, I believe you have to make a few other changes too...
[21:04] <FabioTheApe> like the port...
[21:04] <e-DIO-t> there was some diff in the "PATH"
[21:04] <e-DIO-t> yep: up for usser i agree!
[21:04] <FabioTheApe> but i don't remember exactly, but if you go the gmail help pages there are good directions there
[21:04] <MrsApple> it says the same thing jrib. :(
[21:04] <obaid> gmail pop and smtp requires ssl
[21:05] <jrib> MrsApple: pastebin, I can't see it
[21:05] <Andorin> I've never had to specify a port for Evolution before...
[21:05] <Tyxow> sorry.. what's the "linux-meta" ?
[21:05] <Chr1z> usser: well I could always load rhel at home but for something ar home I believe ubuntu is more up to date :)  some of the rhel packages are a bit old
[21:05] <syed> dam
[21:05] <obaid> ?
[21:05] <MrsApple> http://paste.ubuntu.com/367075/ jrib
[21:05] <obaid> sayed
[21:06] <syed> oh, well im having problems install pograms
[21:06] <usser> Chr1z, im not a big fan of redhat or any rpm distro for that matter. one thing i'm sure you'll come to appreciate on ubuntu is apt-get and aptitude
[21:06] <FabioTheApe> Andorin, I am just asking you to verify that the settings are correct
[21:06] <jrib> MrsApple: it's still not installed.  Did you install the "flashplugin-nonfree" package with synaptic like I said?
[21:06] <syed> when ever i do it says package not found or somthing.
[21:06] <obaid> what problems
[21:06] <FabioTheApe> if you can't do what i ask you to do then I can't help you
[21:06] <Andorin> FabioTheApe: I'm pretty sure they are.
[21:06] <obaid> u do what ?
[21:06] <Andorin> I've, like, quadruple-checked the smtp address.
[21:06] <obaid> syed,
[21:06] <syed> and another problem was firefox wouldnt load facebook after i had put my login information
[21:06] <e-DIO-t> seya
[21:07] <Chr1z> usser: yeah..rpm has major dependency problems... you are definately right about that
[21:07] <FabioTheApe> wait you use gmail?
[21:07] <doolph> hello
[21:07] <Belial`> i never ran into dependency problems with rpm distros as of late.
[21:07] <MrsApple> we tried that one and it didnt work either.
[21:07] <MrsApple> jrib
[21:07] <doolph> I have problem with my microphone
[21:07] <FabioTheApe> and you say the server is smtp.live.com?
[21:07] <doolph> it is not working any advice?
[21:07] <syed> obaid,when i try to download or uninstall somthing, it gets to 75% and says package operation failed.
[21:07] <jrib> MrsApple: not with me.
[21:07] <Belial`> i think that's just a myth that everyone has kind of stuck with.
[21:07] <duffydack> Where would one check to see if any problems detecting and loading modules for audio?  dmesg?
[21:08] <jrib> MrsApple: install the package.  Test.  Pastebin that command.
[21:08] <usser> Belial`, opensuse 10 YAST package manager was a nightmare. at times took up to an hour just to refresh repo list
[21:08] <obaid> syed, how do u install/uninstall ?
[21:08] <FabioTheApe> Andorin, ???
[21:08] <syed> obaid, i use ubuntu software center
[21:08] <doolph> hello
[21:08] <Andorin> FabioTheApe: No, I'm trying to get it working for both Gmail and Hotmail, though Hotmail is more important at the moment.
[21:08] <doolph> anyone can help me with my sound card?
[21:08] <FabioTheApe> Oh...
[21:08] <doolph> my microphone is not working
[21:08] <moejama> I have Pidgin and Xchat set to start on boot, how can I have them start minimized or better yet to the system tray like in windows ?
[21:08] <FabioTheApe> I don't know if hotmail supports pop3
[21:08] <karlzt_> Does this: http://userstyles.org/ exist for chromium?
[21:08] <MrsApple> jrib, erm. ok.
[21:08] <syed> obaid, i try terminal sometimes, but it also comes back with errors.
[21:08] <obaid> syed, probably u have internet problem, that is why your facebook doesn't load well
[21:09] <jrib> MrsApple: this is the only thing I've asked you to do
[21:09] <Chr1z> Belial`: It's not quite as common as it was.. but if you upgrade from one rhel version to the next it happens.... especially on certain hardware...  It also happens if you have a webserver running and need a slightly newer version of something... and the rpm isn't available so you do it from source... then use rpm for something that's required by the package later.. it breaks things...
[21:09] <syed> obaid, but facebook was working on my other computer
[21:09] <Andorin> FabioTheApe: pop3 would be for receiving email, wouldn't it?
[21:09] <KristianDK> how do i make an "ip addr add" stay forever, even after reboot?
[21:09] <FabioTheApe> well if pop3 doesn't work why would smtp>
[21:09] <karlzt_> I mean an alternative for that
[21:09] <obaid> can u tell me about the errors, syed
[21:09] <FabioTheApe> smtp?
[21:09] <xangua> FabioTheApe: hotmail supports pop3 since almost 1 and half years ago
[21:09] <moejama> wow the questions are flying in here
[21:09] <syed> obaid, for facebook or the installation errors.
[21:09] <FabioTheApe> xangua, oh well that was about the last time i used hotmail
[21:10] <Andorin> FabioTheApe: I can receive email just fine. Sending it is what doesn't work.
[21:10] <obaid> nou, ubuntu software center errors, or errors u get during apt-get installations
[21:10] <sharperguy> Anyone know what the name of the feature is where when you switch to a non-widescreen resolution on a widescreen screen, it puts a black border to fix the aspect ratio?
[21:10] <xangua> moejama: enable pidgin and x chat tray icons
[21:10] <Trek> Andorin, are you having issues with hotmail and email clients?
[21:10] <FabioTheApe> ehh... i have to go.
[21:10] <Chr1z> Belial`: rpm works well for the most part.... yum updates usually are flawless for me as well.. just on occasion it screws up.. but when it does it seems to screw up bad...
[21:10] <Andorin> Trek: Yeah. When I try to send email through both Gmail and Hotmail with Evolution, it hangs on "sending message 1 of 1" for a while then fails.
[21:11] <FabioTheApe> i try not to hang out at work naymore then i have too
[21:11] <Trek> AndorinL: when sending through which client?  Gmail, hotmail, or both?
[21:11] <Andorin> Trek: Both.
[21:11] <obaid> Andorin, i am sure it is setting issue, evolution works fine for me @ gmail
[21:11] <syed> obaid, well for the installation, like i said, i get package peration failed or somthing
[21:12] <Trek> Andorin: first, I was unaware that Hotmail lets you use external email clients
[21:12] <obaid> syed, i cant understand that error, in detail plz
[21:12] <Andorin> obaid: Well, it would probably help if I pointed out that I've never found an absolutely definitive guide on setting this sort for thing up.
[21:12] <Andorin> Trek: Yes, it does.
[21:12] <MrsApple> http://paste.ubuntu.com/367083/ jrib
[21:12] <syed> obaid, one sec.
[21:12] <Trek> Andorin: second, are you sure that you're set up correctly with the settings for both?
[21:12] <obaid> there are many guides out there, if you move you search google Andorin
[21:12] <Andorin> Trek: To the extent of my knowledge, yes.
[21:12] <kiwiman> hey it's me !
[21:12] <syed> obaid,will a screenshot do?
[21:12] <jrib> MrsApple: great.  Now restart your browser and pastebin the contents of about:plugins
[21:12] <obaid> nou, paste errors at pastebin
[21:13] <syed> k
[21:13] <syed> obaid, here is what i get
[21:13] <syed> installArchives() failed: (Reading database ...
[21:13] <syed> (Reading database ... 5%
[21:13] <syed> (Reading database ... 10%
[21:13] <syed> (Reading database ... 15%
[21:13] <syed> (Reading database ... 20%
[21:13] <syed> (Reading database ... 25%
[21:13] <syed> (Reading database ... 30%
[21:13] <syed> (Reading database ... 35%
[21:13] <obaid> lol