[06:51] <bharani>  hi agent
[06:51] <bharani> I am new to this place
[06:51] <Scorpaen> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31877/
[06:52] <Scorpaen> there's the lspci, Agent_bob
[06:52] <Scorpaen> brb for the .config
[06:52] <bharani> would u give me quick tips
[06:52] <bharani> for  ajump start
[06:52] <Agent_bob> !msgthebot
[06:52] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:52] <bharani> !msgthebot ..?
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msgthebot ..? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <Agent_bob> !ubotu
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[06:53] <lorolol> i has a prublm!! halp pluz!!
[06:53] <bharani> agent?
[06:53] <Agent_bob> bharani that's a tip.  use /msg and ask ubotu things.
[06:55] <Lynoure> lorolol: If you really have a problem, and want help for it, please describe it.
[06:55] <Hobbsee> ice9: did you find that knm updated with it?
[06:55] <Hobbsee> heya Lynoure
[06:55] <Lynoure> hi Hobbsee
[06:56] <ice9> no I got a wifi-radar that does it
[06:56] <ice9> however, I'm not getting an IP from my wireless network, any ideas for that?
[06:56] <Agent_bob> bharani here's another nugget,  you didn't learn windows in a day don't expect to learn linux in an hour.     one kinda has to unlearn M$ to learn linux
[06:57] <lorolol> lol, learn m$$?
[06:57] <lorolol> learn m$$? More like m$ brainwashed
[06:57] <lorolol> I don't think m$$ is learning, is more like indoctrination
[06:57] <Agent_bob> lorolol yeah,  you'd be surprised that the people that can't do anything in a windows system so i suppose it requires some learning
[06:58] <lorolol> Lynoure: I am doing several installation at the same time and I'd like to set up VNC
[06:58] <lorolol> I've got the client what part do I need to set on the remote Linux?
[06:58] <lorolol> in fact Kubuntu
[06:59] <se7en^Of^9> i want to cp all folder and subfolder but not the mp3 inside any idea
[06:59] <lorolol> se7en^Of^9: man cp
[06:59] <Agent_bob> in M$ im like "ok i dl'd this program, now what's the name of the packagemanager/installer so i can install winrar.exe?"   heh.
[07:00] <ice9> anybody know why I can't get an IP on my wireless network?
[07:00] <pacman> hmm
[07:00] <Lynoure> lorolol: Kubuntu comes with VNC installed. See Krfb in the menu, but I'm not sure if there is any non-graphical way to start it
[07:01] <lorolol> Lynoure: graphical is aight
[07:01] <nicolas> lorolol: you can start a vnc server from commandline with x11vnc
[07:01] <Agent_bob> se7en^Of^9 find
[07:01] <lorolol> wait so on the remote Kubuntu what do I start?
[07:01] <Lynoure> nicolas: after installing it, sure.
[07:02] <nicolas> Lynoure: of course, but im not speaking to a beginner so he already knows
[07:02] <vbhide> do i need to install all the available updates?
[07:02] <vbhide> its like 200mb of downloas
[07:03] <Agent_bob> se7en^Of^9 just in case that was too vague...       find /base/dir/ -type d -exec mkdir -p /new/base/dir/'{}' \;
[07:03] <Lynoure> nicolas: want to take it from this on? :)
[07:04] <nicolas> :P
[07:04] <se7en^Of^9> Agent_bob: thanks yes it was kind of vague
[07:04] <Lynoure> I have not had breakfast yet, and he does not need two people to help him
[07:05] <nicolas> lorolol: you can use Krfb in the K menu
[07:05] <nicolas> Lynoure: go eat
[07:06] <nicolas> lorolol: under the Internet submenu
[07:06] <Agent_bob> Hobbsee hmmm  an offender ?
[07:06] <Hobbsee> Agent_bob: yeah.  bot goiing around running exploits, then parting
[07:06] <Scorpaen> hey Agent_bob here's my current .config : http://training.ctchosting.com/pcampbell/config
[07:06] <Agent_bob> ah ok.
[07:07] <lorolol> nicolas: ok thanks, I will try right now. For real I've having to install several installations simultaneously and is just a pain in the neck. Also the other shitty part about Ub/Ku is that you can't SSH install!!!
[07:07] <se7en^Of^9> Agent_bob: that would cp only the folder and subfolder but i need the .jpg and plain text files inside but not the mp3
[07:07] <dsmith_> Agent_bob: your name reminds me of Microsoft Bob
[07:07] <Agent_bob> se7en^Of^9 now you are changing the criteria
[07:07] <lorolol> I mean cmon
[07:07] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: 01:0a.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. PCI0680 Ultra ATA-133 Host Controller (rev 02)
[07:07] <Scorpaen> i'm using that plus hte nforce2 onboard controller
[07:07] <Agent_bob> but same app can do it  jsut needs more switches
[07:07] <Agent_bob> se7en^Of^9 ^
[07:08] <nicolas> lorolol: i guess you could if you really wanted
[07:08] <Agent_bob> Scorpaen ok i'm looking now.
[07:08] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: i appreciate it man. i'm tired. not thinking clearly. and i need to get this back up and runing
[07:08] <Scorpaen> heh
[07:09] <lorolol> nicolas: not having the ability of ssh install is not being serious
[07:09] <lorolol> a serious distro.
[07:09] <nicolas> lorolol: such as ?
[07:09] <se7en^Of^9> sorry i did ask more detailed before but got no responce Agent_bob
[07:09] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: as long as i have it compiled in the kernel, not in the init image, should work too right??
[07:10] <Scorpaen> i mean a kernel is a kernel.... i hope
[07:10] <Scorpaen> :s
[07:10] <lorolol> nicolas: Gentoo, BSD, Debian, etc..
[07:10] <lorolol> they all offer ssh install
[07:10] <lorolol> also I complain that there isn't a completely CLI way of installing Ub/Ku
[07:10] <Agent_bob> Scorpaen yeah   but i think i found what you overlooked   "# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set "
[07:10] <Scorpaen> lorolol: i use gentoo for servers, kubuntu for desktops
[07:10] <lorolol> I don't want stinky text dialogs
[07:10] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: where is that in make menuconfig?
[07:11] <Scorpaen> under ATA ATAPI?
[07:11] <nicolas> lorolol: dunno, i use the same install since 1990
[07:11] <vbhide> do i have to install all the available updates on adept?
[07:11] <nicolas> :)
[07:11] <Agent_bob> Scorpaen set that to =y     i'm not sure where   block device support i assume
[07:12] <Agent_bob> Scorpaen i just greped it out of your config file   i'd just sed edit the config and go.
[07:12] <nicolas> lorolol: you got it with krfb ?
[07:13] <Agent_bob> but probably safer to use the configuration process
[07:13] <lorolol> nicolas: now, setting the invitation. Now on the one that  I am making the connection
[07:13] <lorolol> I have vnx
[07:14] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: i'm going to do it now. thanks
[07:14] <Scorpaen> brb
[07:14] <lorolol> one thing that Kub beats Gentoo is the tab comletion. It's awsome
[07:14] <vbhide> all the updates add to around 200 mb.... hope its not necessary
[07:14] <lorolol> you can even tab complete each commands options!!!
[07:15] <pacman> <[07:15] <Agent_bob> ok se7en^Of^9 something like and you'll have to test this.       find /blah/ ! -iname *.mp3 -exec cp '{}' /new/dir \;       cause i'm not sure it will preserve sub dirs...  in fact i doubt it.
[07:15] <hitmanWilly> pacman: still? did you try configuring the layout?
[07:16] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: i just aborted an upgrade now the db for adept is locked. how to clear th elock?
[07:16] <pacman> yeah, I tried all the options
[07:16] <pacman> even switched keyboards and did the same, still nothing
[07:16] <Agent_bob> se7en^Of^9 ask in #bash   be exact and be patient.
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> pacman: did you try disabling the keyboard layout altogether?
[07:16] <pacman> yes
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> hmmm
[07:16] <Agent_bob> !adaptcrashfix | Scorpaen
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adaptcrashfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:17] <Agent_bob> !adeptcrashfix | Scorpaen
[07:17] <ubotu> Scorpaen: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:17] <hitmanWilly> pacman: lemme think for a minute...
[07:18] <pacman> how can I access the setup menu (the one from when I installed) from Console
[07:18] <arunkale> why wont katapult launch evolution for me
[07:18] <lorolol> it half gets there
[07:18] <lorolol> I get authentication error
[07:18] <se7en^Of^9> thanks Agent_bob
[07:18] <hitmanWilly> pacman: you could try reconfiguring X, it sounds like that's where the problem may be...
[07:19] <Lynoure> arunkale: knowing you, you do have evolution installed. What does it do instead?
[07:19] <lorolol> but I am putting the proper password
[07:19] <Agent_bob> se7en^Of^9 heh heck, what i'd do is a simple hack    cp -R /blah /new/blah ;find /new/blah -iname *.mp3 -exec rm '{}' \;     hehhe
[07:19] <lorolol> dammit!!
[07:19] <pacman> how do I get in to reconfigure X?
[07:19] <Agent_bob> se7en^Of^9 unless bandwidth was a factor of course
[07:19] <lorolol> do I have to copy the - symbol?
[07:19] <arunkale> Lynoure: ha, yeah I just installed Evolution and I love it. Works and looks great. It doesn't launch evolution, doesn't really do anything instead
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> pacman: sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg if im not mistaken
[07:20] <arunkale> Lynoure: do i need to restart x for katapult to add evolution to its catalog?
[07:20] <Lynoure> arunkale: if you just installed it now, I guess it is possible katapult goes through the catalogs only at its startup
[07:20] <lorolol> WOAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:20] <lorolol> WTF??!!
[07:20] <Lynoure> arunkale: not sure, that's what I try, before or after strace.
[07:20] <pacman> lemme try it, I'll be back
[07:21] <Scorpaen> oh wow... i think i just found out how to restore my generic kernel. i had nuked boot from the ramfs on the livecd and mounted my real boot into it, the apt upgrade system just copied the kernel and initramfs to the real /boot
[07:21] <Scorpaen> lol
[07:21] <arunkale> Lynoure: alright
[07:21] <arunkale> Scorpaen: good for you
[07:21] <lorolol> yo this is kewl!!
[07:21] <lorolol> how come is so simple and fast?
[07:22] <lorolol> I thought it was gonna be mad hard
[07:22] <arunkale> lorolol: what is simple and fast?
[07:22] <Agent_bob> Scorpaen more than one way to pull the hide off a felion
[07:22] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: lol
[07:22] <lorolol> arunkale: VNC
[07:22] <lorolol> this is insane
[07:22] <lorolol> but too slow
[07:23] <lorolol> why is too slow?
[07:23] <lorolol> is laggy as  hell
[07:23] <arunkale> what's VNC
[07:23] <Lynoure> you just said it was fast... make up your mind or provide some context
[07:23] <Agent_bob> !info vnc
[07:23] <ubotu> Package vnc does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:23] <ice9> any wireless network experts in here? I can't seem to get an IP
[07:23] <Agent_bob> !info tightvnc
[07:23] <ubotu> Package tightvnc does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:24] <crimsun> ice9: associated with the AP?
[07:24] <Agent_bob> well poo
[07:24] <ardchoille> !search vnc
[07:24] <ubotu> Found: screencast, vnc, vncfix
[07:24] <lorolol> Agent_bob: tightvnc is faster?
[07:24] <crimsun> it's tightvncviewer
[07:24] <ice9> I'm not sure about that Crimsun, how can I find out?
[07:24] <Lynoure> arunkale: "virtual network console", a way to use remote desktop like it was it's own.
[07:24] <ardchoille> !vnc
[07:24] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[07:24] <lorolol> I am using VNC on the Gentoo end
[07:24] <crimsun> !info tightvncviewer
[07:24] <Agent_bob> !info vnc-common
[07:24] <lorolol> and Kubs stock VNC server
[07:24] <ubotu> Package tightvncviewer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:24] <ubotu> vnc-common: Virtual network computing server software. In component main, is optional. Version 3.3.7-13ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 59 kB, installed size 184 kB
[07:24] <Lynoure> VNC is a slow protocol
[07:24] <lorolol> and is slowz as a fat ...
[07:25] <crimsun> prepend x, sorry
[07:25] <pacman> still nothing.
[07:25] <crimsun> ice9: look at iwconfig
[07:25] <lorolol> w00t@VNCoverSSH
[07:25] <arunkale> evolution won't send my emails
[07:25] <arunkale> i'm sure my smtp config is correct
[07:25] <lorolol> wait a minute are you telling me that Kubs is not over SSH?'
[07:25] <Agent_bob> crimsun where you been hiden' ?
[07:25] <ice9> !paste
[07:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:25] <crimsun> Agent_bob: ?
[07:26] <ice9> Crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31879/
[07:26] <Agent_bob> hadn't been seeing you around
[07:26] <Lynoure> arunkale: and the smtp server allows you to send?
[07:26] <crimsun> Agent_bob: career change involving much more travel
[07:27] <Lynoure> arunkale: if you contact it manually, can you get a mail through?
[07:27] <hitmanWilly> pacman: hmmmm
[07:27] <arunkale> Lynoure: contact what?
[07:27] <Lynoure> arunkale: the smtp server.
[07:27] <crimsun> ice9: good, and now `sudo dhclient ath0'
[07:28] <hitmanWilly> pacman: so nothing works in KDE at all, but you can login through kdm?
[07:28] <intelikey> crimsun i C++    you like ?    glad for you if so.
[07:28] <crimsun> intelikey: definitely a positive change.
[07:28] <arunkale> Lynoure: what do you mean by manually?
[07:28] <intelikey> k good    i'll get back on topic now.   just wanted to say howdy.
[07:28] <Lynoure> arunkale: quite often at least corporate smtp servers simply do not accept you to send anything unless you are in their network. (or authenticate, in some cases)
[07:29] <Scorpaen> hey bob here i go
[07:29] <Scorpaen> bbiab!
[07:29] <intelikey> Scorpaen k
[07:29] <arunkale> Lynoure: it was just working a minute ago, now i cant send or receive emails after i restarted the client
[07:29] <ice9> Crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31880/
[07:29] <Lynoure> arunkale: here is a step-by-step for you: http://www.rdpslides.com/webresources/FAQ00035.htm
[07:29] <Lynoure> arunkale: oh, so it worked before? Totally different situation, then.
[07:30] <arunkale> Lynoure: yeah, it worked before
[07:30] <crimsun> ice9: 7.04 or 7.10?
[07:30] <intelikey> arunkale firewall change ?
[07:30] <jimishol> hi all. one little help with kontact. it is few days that takes several minutes to start and it seems to use too much system source. Vmsize is 1409320 is it normal?
[07:30] <ice9> Crimsun 7.04
[07:30] <crimsun> ice9: tried the 7.10 tribe 3 live cd?
[07:31] <ice9> no, think I'll have better luck with it?
[07:31] <intelikey> jimishol long startup no size yeah about that
[07:31] <crimsun> ice9: newer mac layer, so yeah
[07:31] <ice9> Crimsun will I be able to upgrade to it? Without losing everything
[07:32] <arunkale> works now, i just restarted evolution
[07:32] <arunkale> weird
[07:32] <crimsun> ice9: just try the live cd; you don't need to install it
[07:33] <ice9> but I mean if it does work and I do decide to install it
[07:33] <intelikey> ice test first if you have good results then in a month or two you can install the newer release....
[07:34] <ice9> and where do I obtain it? I don't see it on the site
[07:35] <crimsun> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-July/000319.html
[07:35] <se7en^Of^9> intelikey: rsync does the trick thanks anyway
[07:35] <intelikey> arunkale kinda sounds a little like some gtk something not starting correctly     hit and miss kinda thing      but i'm no expert there.    if you can reproduce the condition on successive restarts then file a bug on it
[07:36] <intelikey> se7en^Of^9 hmmm ok.    don't know why i didn't think of using rsync locally....
[07:36] <intelikey> se7en^Of^9 who put you on to that ?
[07:36] <ice9> oh, one more question, how can I browse to the router settings? In windows I was able to just type the IP in a folder or web browser, but not the case here
[07:36] <jimishol> can anyone check with ksysguard the VMsize of kontact?
[07:37] <se7en^Of^9> #bash and i use rsync anyway
[07:37] <se7en^Of^9> #bash and i use rsync anyway intelikey
[07:37] <intelikey> se7en^Of^9 well there ya go then   :)
[07:37] <miles> !iptables
[07:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:38] <yurimxpxman> is there any way to increase the desktop icon size without changing the icons in the file browser?
[07:39] <intelikey> s/.*or GUIapplications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE)/$*which are just frontends to iptables anyway/
[07:39] <arunkale> i think i'll stick with kmail
[07:39] <arunkale> how do i add an 'account' to an 'identity' in kmail?
[07:40] <intelikey> in it's menu configure it
[07:40] <arunkale> alright
[07:40] <intelikey> err actually i never found a way to add smtp's but adding other fetches is easy
[07:42] <arunkale> it doesn't seem to be downloading any old email from my server.. i want it to download all the emails that are currently on my server
[07:42] <pacman> *sighs*
[07:42] <intelikey> don't have "leave a copy on the server" ticked do you ?
[07:43] <pacman> who's been helping me with my keyboard issue?  all that showed on bitchx was <       >
[07:43] <arunkale> intelikey: i do
[07:44] <intelikey> arunkale well the old emails are probably marked as already dl'd on the server...  you can use a web browser and mark them as unseen   might do the trick
[07:44] <arunkale> alright, will try
[07:44] <intelikey> close kmail first or you may confuse something
[07:45] <intelikey> monkey C monkey do,  except in #kubuntu where monkey C monkey get confused and ask stupid questions....
[07:45] <pacman> heh
[07:46] <intelikey> i should have quoted that,  i think someone in here said that one time
[07:48] <intelikey> pacman maybe   "<hitmanWilly> pacman: you could try reconfiguring X,..."
[07:48] <miles> um
[07:48] <intelikey> sorry i was slow on seeing what you were asking
[07:48] <arunkale> intelikey: damn. looks like evolution downloaded all the email from my server and deleted everything on there, even though i had enabled the option of leaving everything on the server
[07:48] <arunkale> aaaaa
[07:49] <arunkale> i'll just move the mbox file from evolution, i guess
[07:49] <hii> <3
[07:49] <intelikey> arunkale and you don't have the ~/.evolution/   mail dir ....        "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!"
[08:39] <lorolol> that's weird
[08:39] <lorolol> shouldn't they be authenticated?
[08:40] <intelikey> lorolol gnupg not installed or the key not downloaded from the server
[08:40] <intelikey> ubuntu-keyring  is a metapackage that should fix that,    do and update afterwards
[08:43] <lorolol> intelikey: gnupg IS installed
[08:43] <milanorex> anyone else using compiz? it kills my window manager when loading. it works fine on xubuntu though
[08:43] <sbucat> =) i use beryl
[08:44] <lorolol> how do I /wi6
[08:45] <holycow> speaking of beryl, i just installed it and using beryl window manager means i can't get window decorations drawn
[08:45] <holycow> is this common?
[08:45] <milanorex> same problem i'm having with compiz
[08:46] <intelikey> #ubuntu-effects
[08:46] <holycow> shouldnt that be kubuntu-effects?
[08:46] <holycow> kde and gnome aren't exactly the same
[08:46] <intelikey> !beryl
[08:46] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:46] <intelikey>                    ^
[08:47] <holycow> i know what beryl is

[08:47] <holycow> lol
[08:47] <intelikey> holycow read the infonode.
[08:47] <holycow> oh jesus stop, just go away
[08:47] <holycow> i really hate people giving me ridiculous information
[08:47] <intelikey> help is in #ubuntu-effects
[08:48] <holycow> yeh congratulations
[08:48] <holycow> can you type that again please?
[08:48] <holycow> i didn't get it
[08:48] <intelikey> i don't need this.
[08:48] <milanorex> !ubuntu-effects
[08:48] <ubotu> For help with 3d desktop effects applications or drivers please join #ubuntu-effects, someone there will be glad to help you. You can read http://forum.beryl-project.org/ for most common problems or questions.
[08:49] <holycow> lol
[08:49] <holycow> oh man
[08:49] <holycow> amazing
[08:51] <combo> - where i can edit kubuntu start-up programs? i mean the programs that will be launched just after logging in ? :)
[08:52] <holycow> thats in the session manager
[08:52] <holycow> i just don't know where that is in kde
[08:52] <arunkale> combo: kmenu > system settings > advanced > session manager
[08:52] <combo> but i cannot find it
[08:53] <combo> arunkale: yes, yes , iknow
[08:53] <combo> arunkale: but i can't find this option there :/
[08:53] <arunkale> combo: check in system services
[08:54] <combo> checking out....
[08:55] <dromer> aarg, my system just recovered from a kernel panic (getting these more often lately) .. any ideas on how to find out what happened and how te prevent it?
[08:55] <holycow> my kde just remembers what was running if if i shut it down and starts it up
[08:55] <holycow> heh
[08:55] <holycow> i gotta figure out how to configure kde properly there are A LOT of settings everywhere
[08:55] <combo> arunkale: ok, found that - thanks a lot ;)
[08:55] <Gun_Monkey> crap, just forgot where the ftp program is
[08:55] <holycow> Gun_Monkey: konqueror
[08:55] <Gun_Monkey> hmm, tried that, but I didn't see an FTP connect option
[08:55] <Gun_Monkey> let me look again
[08:56] <holycow> ftp://user@ip.add.re.ss:port
[08:56] <arunkale> combo: no problem
[08:56] <arunkale> brb
[08:56] <chx> hi i have a<PHONE_NUMBER> file which i need to write on a data dvd. please advice. k3b complains about that it can't add bigger than 4.0G
[08:57] <Gun_Monkey> if its windows, you have to download a shell script
[08:57] <holycow> well that file is 4.6 gig
[08:57] <holycow> so yes
[08:57] <holycow> you need to get a bigger dvd
[08:58] <chx> no, no, it does not add to the data dvd project
[08:58] <holycow> well that still makes sense
[08:59] <chx> i guess it does
[08:59] <chx> ancient standards
[08:59] <chx> but i have Linux
[08:59] <holycow> so do all ofus
[08:59] <Gun_Monkey> hmm, still not finding the ftp option
[08:59] <holycow> :)
[08:59] <chx> I would guess it can overcome this
[08:59] <holycow> i haven't used k3bb in like years so can't suggest an alternative except gnome baker
[09:00] <chx> let me ask another way
[09:00] <chx> how can i put UDF on a dvd?
[09:02] <chx> udftools ah
[09:02] <chx> how lovely everything is an apt-get away :)
[09:02] <holycow> life is easy on the dark side eh?
[09:03] <holycow> whats with allthe people joining and leaving?
[09:04] <dolemite01> Anyone awake atm?
[09:05] <holycow> dolemite!
[09:05] <holycow> heh cool nick
[09:05] <dolemite01> thanks
[09:05] <Gun_Monkey> I am
[09:06] <dolemite01> im installing kubuntu feisty 7.04 from the livecd, i have windowsxp on there now, in the step where it wants to parition, so im going to do manual
[09:06] <Gun_Monkey> but I'm trying to get ftp working
[09:06] <dolemite01> i can't find a wiki on this tho
[09:06] <Gun_Monkey> funny I've seen it a hundred times when I didn't need it
[09:06] <Gun_Monkey> now that I do, I can't remember how to get to it
[09:08] <holycow> brother its just konqueror
[09:08] <holycow> ftp://user@ip:port
[09:08] <holycow> what part of that doesn't work for you?
[09:08] <holycow> i just did ftp://ftp.debian.org to test and works great
[09:08] <Gun_Monkey> the finding it part
[09:08] <Gun_Monkey> heh
[09:08] <holycow> finding what?
[09:08] <holycow> konqueror?
[09:08] <Gun_Monkey> there is no standalone ftp client?
[09:08] <holycow> hit alt / f2
[09:08] <holycow> typ-e in konqueror
[09:09] <holycow> jesuse stop already!
[09:09] <holycow> stop the ftp client windows nonsense
[09:09] <holycow> konqueror does ftp, ssh and pretty much everything under the sun
[09:09] <Gun_Monkey> considering I just started using linux, I could use a little slack
[09:09] <holycow> ctrl / l to split the konq window into two vertically to get the standard client layout
[09:09] <holycow> Gun_Monkey: okay sorry :)
[09:10] <holycow> lets try this again, you can't find  konqueror?
[09:10] <dolemite01> any ideas on the dual booting question?
[09:10] <dolemite01> http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=feistydual06rw5.png
[09:10] <dolemite01> i dont have those options
[09:10] <Gun_Monkey> I have konqueror open
[09:10] <dolemite01> Mine are : Guided - use entire disk, guided -use the largets amount of free space, or manual
[09:11] <holycow>  just type in ftp://ftp.debian.org in the address bar to test
[09:11] <holycow> it should connect you right away
[09:11] <chx>  sudo mkudffs /dev/pktcdvd/dvd
[09:11] <chx> Segmentation fault
[09:11] <chx> i got this far
[09:11] <chx> now I am out of ideas.
[09:11] <holycow> you can press ctrl / l to get standard ftp left/right layout
[09:11] <holycow> sorry
[09:11] <holycow> its ctrl / shift / l
[09:12] <holycow> dolemite01: you might take automatic setup instead of manual because your primary partition probably needs resizing
[09:13] <holycow> dolemite01: however question for you, have you backed up all your windows stuff?
[09:13] <dolemite01> yes
[09:13] <holycow> this is the part where people erase their windows partitions because they aren't sure of the consequences of the choices they make
[09:13] <holycow> okay
[09:13] <holycow> :)
[09:13] <holycow> just checking
[09:13] <dolemite01> whenever i choose guided - continous space
[09:13] <holycow> chx: i don't know what udf is or what to do with it, sorry
[09:14] <dolemite01> i get an error: Failed to partition the selected disk
[09:14] <Gun_Monkey> bingo, got it working with my ftp server
[09:14] <Gun_Monkey> thanks holycow
[09:14] <holycow> dolemite01: it looks like its not seeing your windows partitions maybe ... i don't know
[09:14] <holycow> Gun_Monkey: no problem dude, remember in kde every single app has access to every single network connection type through kparts
[09:15] <holycow> Gun_Monkey: so on kde, there is no need for an ftp client
[09:15] <Gun_Monkey> I shall do that
[09:15] <Gun_Monkey> I honestly like kubuntu far more than windows
[09:15] <holycow> konqueror can ftp back and forth all you want
[09:15] <holycow> infact
[09:15] <kraut> moin
[09:15] <holycow> let me give you a hing
[09:15] <holycow> ctrl / shift / l  and ctrl / shift / t
[09:15] <holycow> you can use those to split up konquereor windows
[09:16] <holycow> in each window you can connect to a different network space
[09:16] <holycow> in one you can do ftp for example
[09:16] <holycow> in another you can connect to an ssh account
[09:16] <holycow> in andother you can connect to a samba share
[09:16] <holycow> and you can move files back and forth however you want between those
[09:16] <holycow> welcome to the dark side
[09:16] <holycow> you have great power at your fingertips
[09:17] <Gun_Monkey> heh
[09:17] <Gun_Monkey> thanks
[09:17] <Gun_Monkey> does ctl-shift-t close the extra windows?
[09:17] <holycow> no
[09:17] <holycow> it splits the window horizontally
[09:17] <holycow> while the other one splits it vertically
[09:18] <Gun_Monkey> ah, I see
[09:18] <holycow> the point of that tutorial was to get you to think about universal access to any random network component
[09:18] <holycow> instead of the garbage windows idea that you need an ftp client and you cant move files between ftp and ssh for example
[09:18] <Gun_Monkey> hmm
[09:19] <adenicio> why do adept crash everytime when it's about to instal paque?
[09:19] <Gun_Monkey> I need to spend a lot more time with this
[09:20] <holycow> adenicio: kde apps are VERY VERY crashy
[09:20] <holycow> all of them
[09:20] <holycow> i would recommend installing and upgrading via command line if your is that unstable
[09:21] <adenicio> holycow: so how do i know if it install or not.it makin me wast time installin things for nothing
[09:21] <holycow> if it crashes you don't know
[09:21] <holycow> install via command line
[09:22] <pag> adenicio, apt-cache policy packagename  tells if the package is installed or not
[09:22] <holycow> pag: ah good point forgot about that
[09:25] <holycow> Gun_Monkey: also, konqueror happens to be a web  browser
[09:25] <holycow> lol
[09:25] <holycow> its really a swiss army knife
[09:26] <holycow> its one of the most amazing tools i've run into
[09:30] <celeste> anyone awake?
[09:32] <holycow> lots of people entering and leaving
[09:32] <celeste> I'm trrying to dl amsn any ideas on how i would go about installing the tar.gz?
[09:32] <celeste> I'm newber that n00b
[09:32] <holycow> this is the most bizarre channel traffic i've ever seen
[09:32] <holycow> celeste: why download it?
[09:32] <holycow> kubuntu and ubuntu have all the software you will need in a central repository
[09:33] <holycow> kill your download and delete that file
[09:34] <holycow> celeste looking for rest of information
[09:35] <pag> !info amsn
[09:35] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96+dfsg1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2488 kB, installed size 9108 kB
[09:35] <holycow> celeste: you probably don't want to use amsn
[09:35] <holycow> its not a very good client
[09:35] <pag> celeste, enable universe (if it isn't already enabled) and type " sudo apt-get install amsn " into the konsole
[09:35] <holycow> you should try installing gaim, it does gtalk, msn, aim and lots of other networks
[09:36] <holycow> i would instead try using adept package manager instead and install gaim, much much better client
[09:36] <pag> holycow, you're right, but it's one of the very few in which ie. file transfer work
[09:36] <holycow> *nod*
[09:36] <pag> holycow, Kopete rocks \,,/  ;)
[09:37] <holycow> oh haven't tried that yet, yes try kopete as well too
[09:37] <holycow> pag: good point :)
[09:37] <holycow> sorry i come from gnome very recently i haven't learned all th ekde apps
[09:37] <holycow> :)
[09:38] <pag> celeste, I'd personally reccomend you KMess if you need only msn, KMess has pretty much everything needed for average user, and it's a KDE app, so it also looks far nicer than amsn
[09:38] <lorolol> hi
[09:38] <lorolol> why XINE konqueror plug-in isn't working?
[09:38] <lorolol> just axing
[09:38] <lorolol> mplayer works fine
[09:39] <lorolol> I'd like EVERYTHING to work flawlessly
[09:39] <holycow> axing?
[09:39] <holycow> you mean asking
[09:39] <combo> - if i made something wrong in xorg.conf (i wanted to install AIGLX) and i backed it up how can i restore it ? kubuntu doesn't work - there is only black screen ... ?
[09:39] <holycow> i don't think anyone here knows what axing is
[09:39] <lorolol> ax is ghetto style
[09:39] <pag> combo, ctrl+alt+f1  gets you to a console
[09:39] <lorolol> or aks
[09:39] <lorolol> aksing
[09:39] <holycow> combo: there is some odd stuff happening with kdm, i had to switch to gdm to resolve those issues
[09:40] <holycow> combo: not sure what that is.  with kdm still installed i had to reboot to get the login form once again
[09:40] <lorolol> so anybody know why Xine isn't working as a plugin?
[09:40] <lorolol> why is then listed in Konqueror if isn't working?
[09:40] <holycow> lorolol: flawlessly is a mighty high standard
[09:40] <combo> ok, i think i'm gonna make it ;) thanks a lot ^^
[09:40] <lorolol> that makes no sense
[09:41] <holycow> lorolol: why don't you ask the xine plugin developers instead of bothering us with esoteric nonsense?
[09:41] <lorolol> holycow: mplayer works
[09:41] <holycow> why are you using xine anyway?
[09:41] <holycow> mplayer is better
[09:41] <pag> combo, log in from there, type  "sudo apt-get install irssi" and come that way to chat with us  or if you know exact locations, then  sudo cp /path/to/backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf  should also work
[09:41] <lorolol> why shan't Xine?
[09:41] <holycow> because we don't support xine, kapish?
[09:42] <holycow> we support installing ubuntu and minor user issues
[09:42] <holycow> that is a question for the xine developers
[09:42] <holycow> ask them
[09:42] <holycow> i appreciate you want perfection, that would be great, you are just asking the wrong people, thats all
[09:42] <combo> pag, oh no, no! i've just modded xorg.conf, and i'm doing startX now. but last time when i made it i had to have a format of hdd :D
[09:42] <combo> pag, so i'm asking you guys for the future what to do, how to fix it :D
[09:43] <holycow> combo: well i removed kdm and installed gdm
[09:43] <pag> combo, oh.. so as I said.. copy the backup over the original, and you'll be fine :)
[09:43] <combo> and the future is just now :) see ya soon  - CTRL+ALT+BCKSPC :)
[09:43] <holycow> i haven't had time to look into a kdm specific fix
[09:43] <george2002> http://www.fotozone.es/foto/31,2007/fotozone_103074.jpg venezuela
[09:43] <combo> pag, i 've just coppied :)
[09:43] <pag> holycow, why? :O  KDM works just fine  (in fact, better than GDM)
[09:44] <holycow> pag: you can't restart it
[09:44] <holycow> it just hangs and does some absolutely bizarre stuff
[09:45] <holycow> i was actually dissapointed, i haven't been happy with gdm at all
[09:45] <lorolol> holycow: that's a not a preofessionl attitude. Should be, "we apologize for the incovenince and thanks for bring that up we will forward the issue with Xine as soon as possble to the proper department and ensure that WILL WORK FLAWLESSLY with the fine Kubuntu distro. We will notify you of the progress." Your answer sounds of a mediocre person that's content with a borken system, just like m$$$
[09:46] <holycow> lorolol: you are welcome to ask for a refund
[09:46] <holycow> this is a community not a business
[09:46] <holycow> no one here gets paid
[09:46] <holycow> thus its much more productive to expect speaking to a human than a customer service robot monkey
[09:46] <holycow> and frankly i owe you nothing
[09:46] <lorolol> holycow: that doesn't mean stuff should be borked. The community should strife for the best
[09:47] <holycow> lorolol: what do you expect me to do about it?
[09:47] <holycow> if you want to pay me, i would be happy to put on the happy customer service monkey face that peretends to care
[09:47] <holycow> however this is a community, you are right it should work
[09:47] <lorolol> don't know
[09:48] <holycow> as part of the community it is now part of your responsibility to track down the dev team and use their communication protocol to let them know there is an issue
[09:48] <Gun_Monkey> internet radio isn't as good as it used to be
[09:48] <holycow> lorolol: i only sound like a jerk because windows users are trained that 'customers are always right'
[09:48] <lorolol> true
[09:48] <holycow> even when they didn't pay for anything
[09:48] <holycow> it just rubs me the wrong way thats all, my appologies
[09:49] <holycow> i really should of just said this is the wrong channel for that issue, while it should be taken care of and i agree
[09:49] <pag> holycow, no one expects *you* to do anything about it - you still shouldn't say "we don't support $unworkingThing"  since we support pretty much everything related to (k)ubuntu...
[09:49] <dolemite01> well on one hand ubuntu/kubuntu attempts to tout itself as the david against the MS Goliath, so when people find its flaws it merely allows them to back the Goliath who almost always wins, otherwise when it didn't, why would they have put it in the bible?
[09:49] <holycow> pag: i will deffer to that, i'm learning the protocols
[09:49] <holycow> lorolol: i stand corrected
[09:49] <lorolol> isn't Xine Amaroks main engine?
[09:50] <Gun_Monkey> gotta restart
[09:50] <lorolol> xine=Amarok=qt=kde=xine=Kaffeine=k3b
[09:50] <lorolol> mm... is not that they are completely DETACHED thigns
[09:50] <lorolol> things
[09:50] <holycow> dolemite01: i really don't think we should position our self as alternative to ms
[09:50] <pag> lorolol, amarok uses xine - yes.
[09:50] <dolemite01> lorolol might i suggest $ sudo apt-get install vista thx
[09:50] <lorolol> that's mainly WHY I found it strange
[09:50] <lorolol> that's all
[09:50] <holycow> i think we  have our own strengths and weaknesses
[09:51] <lorolol> didn't mean to bitch
[09:51] <holycow> our greatest strength is FREEDOM and i thin kthat is what we should be selling
[09:52] <lorolol> actually what I do, whenever someone comes to me for assitance. The first thing I do is wipe out m$$ XP without axing.
[09:52] <lorolol> That's my policy
[09:52] <holycow> lorolol: no problem :) you mean well
[09:52] <holycow> lorolol: do me a favour hawever, stop typing axing
[09:52] <lorolol> if they don't like it go to Best Buy pay $300 for configuring your shitty McAffe firewall
[09:52] <holycow> do you reinstall winxp or install linux?
[09:53] <lorolol> linux
[09:53] <holycow> lorolol: actually you are correct about that
[09:53] <lorolol> I wipe out XP and put linux
[09:53] <holycow> its cheaper to buy a new win box at wallmart than to have it professionally reinstalled
[09:53] <lorolol> although recalcitrant in the beggining they actually end up liking it
[09:53] <holycow> to do it right takes about 4 hours if you are lucky in terms of transferring all their data and have all the software cds to install
[09:54] <dolemite01> whats that supposed to say reluctant?
[09:54] <dolemite01> if so you f'd that word up all to hell
[09:55] <lorolol> dolemite01: actually recalcitrant cause they m$$ XP attachment/brainwashing annoys me the hell out of me
[09:55] <holycow> lorolol: although its probably a bit rude to wipe out their xp and install linux
[09:55] <lorolol> although I don't start ranting about, I remain pretty calm
[09:55] <dolemite01> new rule: you can't use big words then mispell a small word next to it
[09:55] <holycow> lol
[09:55] <combo> pag, thanks the Lord that u told me to use CTRL+ALT+F1... else i had to have a HDD format again :]
[09:55] <lorolol> I know is rude, too bad :-D
[09:55] <holycow> dolemite01: haha
[09:56] <posingaspopular> how do i get the sound/volume icon back to where it was before
[09:56] <dolemite01> i suppose if you were a mechanic and one had a person who forgot to change their oil in the BMW, you'd force them to drive away in a taurus?
[09:56] <lorolol> holycow: besides believe it or not many if not all EXPECT YOU to find a freaking pirated copy of XP
[09:56] <lorolol> that's what gets me
[09:56] <posingaspopular> ? in kubuntu fesity, there used to be a volume knob next to the clock, and now i can't find it or figureout how to put it back
[09:56] <holycow> add the system tray to your panel, or move system tray to right position
[09:56] <lorolol> and I am supposed to brake a leg find all the drivers, locate a pirated copy and so and so?
[09:57] <pag> posingaspopular, add applet to the panel -> sound mixer (or something like that)
[09:57] <holycow> lorolol: ah if its pirated yeah, there mgiht be something to that idea
[09:57] <holycow> you don't have a choice then
[09:57] <holycow> you haveto refuse to install even if they provide the cd
[09:57] <pag> !offtopic | holycow, lorolol
[09:57] <ubotu> holycow, lorolol: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:57] <holycow> true true sorry
[09:58] <lorolol> by the way I have no qualms about using pirated m$$ XP :-DDD. In fact is the only way I would use XP at all
[09:58] <holycow> i refuse to pay them a dime my self but i don't use their stuff
[09:58] <posingaspopular> whoa that messed up somehow
[09:58] <lorolol> I APOLOGIZE!!! PLEASE DON'T KICKE ME!!
[09:58] <holycow> oh wait offtopic haha got me
[09:58] <combo> pag, can u examine what is wrong with my XORG.xonf ?! (ATI Radeon 9600)   http://wklej.org/id/19b1899847   i had to restored my previous file... r u acquainted with xy ? :)
[09:58] <dolemite01> so if the Kubuntu doesnt find the windows install during the guided setup, what are my options
[09:59] <dolemite01> QTParedit finds it, i might just resize windows partition with that and let kubuntu find the free space, see what happens
[09:59] <dolemite01> would that be best case?
[09:59] <lorolol> dolemite01: forget about XP??
[09:59] <holycow> yes it would dolemite01
[09:59] <pag> combo, sorry... could you rephrase the last part of your sentece, I didn't understand it
[09:59] <posingaspopular> that's the right one, but it looks horrible
[09:59] <lorolol> any tricks that I am forgetting about full fledge K installation?
[09:59] <dolemite01> dude seriously, its ok to not like xp, but trying to make ppl converts isnt cool either
[09:59] <lorolol> oh I know I have a problem with audacity
[10:00] <dolemite01> i have to use XP for school, OneNote has no equivalent in linux, and some testing software is windows only, just how it is
[10:00] <lorolol> it says that it doesn't have an output device
[10:00] <lorolol> dolemite01: I enjoy it
[10:00] <combo> pag, it meaned something like 'do you know how to change xorg.conf so it can works' ? :)
[10:01] <pag> combo, umm... Does ati support aixgl?  I've heard their closed driver doesn't, do you happen to know about OS?
[10:01] <combo> pag, - and also AIGLX work
[10:01] <pag> combo, so now X doesn't launch at all?
[10:01] <combo> last month when i had Ubuntu AIGLX (with Beryl) works very well
[10:02] <combo> pag, yes
[10:02] <combo> pag, now i changed OS on Kubuntu, and i can't fix it
[10:02] <pag> combo, does it give any errors?
[10:02] <posingaspopular> got it. thanks pag
[10:03] <dolemite01> qtparted is saying drive has one bad sector, so it wont resize :/ any idea what else i could use to resize it
[10:03] <combo> pag, nope, only black screen and text cursor blinkink in the left corner
[10:03] <pag> combo, ok.. and does it start with "startx" command?
[10:03] <combo> i didn't tried
[10:03] <lorolol> audacity isn't working
[10:03] <combo> pag, i just pushed CTRL+ALT+F1 (as u told me) and restored backup file
[10:03] <pag> combo, try, since it should give some errors
[10:04] <lorolol> any ideas?
[10:04] <pag> lorolol, disable arts
[10:04] <combo> pag, ok... brb
[10:04] <combo> pag, oh... one more when i'm pushing CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE it doesn't work... :]  i have to reboot all the system
[10:05] <combo> pag, it shows black screen with this text cursor and nothing works
[10:05] <pag> combo, even after backspace ctrl+alt+f1 should work..
[10:05] <holycow> combo: try reinstalling kd maybe?
[10:05] <combo> pag, after launchong console this way (CTRL+ALT+F1) ... let's see
[10:05] <holycow> kdm even
[10:06] <lorolol> pag: where
[10:06] <lorolol> so /dev/dsp output in audacity is ok?
[10:06] <lorolol> where do I disable arts GLOBALLY?
[10:06] <lorolol> is a poain the... to go app by app
[10:06] <pag> lorolol, somewhere in the kcontrol
[10:07] <pag> sound & multimedia -> sound system -> take the tick from the box "enable Sound Sys."
[10:08] <pag> lorolol, remember, that you have to re-enable it after you're done with adacity
[10:10] <lorolol> pag: are you talking about Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[10:10] <lorolol> pag: I don't see Sound and Multimedia
[10:11] <pag> lorolol, Kubuntu...
[10:11] <pag> lorolol, alt+f2 and type kcontrol
[10:18] <combo> pag: after STARTX in console it gives some text... a lot of text and the last 2 lines (i notified) is:   http://wklej.org/id/b3e0cf60a5   -it doens't work at all :/
[10:20] <frySt> kcontrol ownz, very good control centre... only thing that makes me sad that i wont recognise my gameport/sidewinder
[10:20] <Simon_Lost> hi peeps
[10:21] <frySt> hi
[10:21] <pag> combo, sorry, I don't know what might be causing that problem
[10:21] <Gun_Monkey> anyone know a good streaming music station?>
[10:21] <Simon_Lost> talking about problems, I can't get feasty fawn to completely shut down a pc
[10:22] <frySt> Gun_Monkey  i recommend u to try streamtuner
[10:22] <Simon_Lost> and not even login as root
[10:22] <frySt> nice tool and you can even record
[10:22] <combo> pag, ok... but thanks anyway u were trying :)
[10:22] <frySt> Simon_Lost  that souns really weird, maybe try magicSysRQ?
[10:23] <pag> Simon_Lost, whenb you press the shutdown it gives you the black screen?
[10:23] <Simon_Lost> when I ask for a shutdown, I get to the Kubuntu screen with the empty bar
[10:23] <Simon_Lost> and stays there
[10:24] <pag> Simon_Lost, hmm... might be the same issue - try adding force=acpi  to kernel bootline and see if that helps
[10:24] <Simon_Lost> ah yes about this
[10:24] <Simon_Lost> I would gladly do it
[10:24] <lorolol> hi
[10:25] <Simon_Lost> but I could not access to root  accreditation
[10:25] <lorolol> Firefox says NO-VIDEO when playing stream online!!! Both Konqueror and Opera work fine!!
[10:25] <pag> Simon_Lost, sudo ;)
[10:25] <waylandbill> !root
[10:25] <Simon_Lost> I confess my noobness
[10:25] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:25] <pag> Simon_Lost, so you'll need  kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:26] <frySt> ..and if it still wont shutdown try alt+print+O
[10:26] <Simon_Lost> I will try it right away
[10:26] <dogg> what is a program i can get to convert wma's to mp3
[10:27] <Simon_Lost> funny thing is mylaptop does great, I am on it right now on kubuntu
[10:27] <pag> Simon_Lost, and btw; that you'll have to reboot before that 'fix' will take effect, so don't expact it to work as soon as you've added it
[10:27] <Simon_Lost> it's a customers' pc which gives me issues
[10:27] <pag> dogg, sounkonverter
[10:27] <Simon_Lost> okidokes
[10:28] <pag> dogg, you'll also need lame and maybe w32codecs
[10:29] <dogg> where do i get those? synaptic?
[10:29] <Gun_Monkey> heh, still practicing installations on linux
[10:29] <pag> dogg, synaptic / adpet/ apt-get  you choose :)
[10:30] <pag> adept even
[10:30] <dak> hrm
[10:30] <yotux> is there any way to fix this "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[10:32] <holycow> hahahaha
[10:32] <holycow> you assholes
[10:32] <holycow> you got me with the ctrl / print / o
[10:32] <holycow> hehehe
[10:32] <holycow> :)
[10:32] <holycow> v v good
[10:32] <holycow> i dind't know about that
[10:35] <Simon_Lost> mmm
[10:35] <arun_> i removed the taskbar from the panel, how do i add it back
[10:36] <Simon_Lost> my kernel line already has acpi=off do I replace this or simply add at the end of the ine
[10:36] <lorolol> mplayer Apple streams says (NO VIDEO) then it crashes
[10:36] <lorolol> any ideas?
[10:36] <Simon_Lost> line
[10:36] <pag> arun_, right click on panel -> add applet -> taskbar
[10:37] <arun_> excellent, thanks pag
[10:37] <pag> Simon_Lost, I don't know.. you'll have to try.. start with removing that line and see if it works then - if it doesn't try forcing acpi etc..
[10:38] <lorolol> the same with OPERA only konqueror works with Apple Trailers
[10:38] <lorolol> is this some sort of sabotage?
[10:39] <frySt> holycow  u arent ment to tryout everything :p
[10:39] <holycow> that was trully funny, i completely wasn't expecting it to do that
[10:39] <frySt> magic sys rq is great if system hangs and wont let it shut down or smth .. send commands directly to the kernel
[10:39] <arun_> wow my entire panel looks sexy now
[10:40] <bjwebb> hi where is the home icon located
[10:40] <arun_> with transparency and everything
[10:40] <holycow> frySt: is that what it does?
[10:40] <bjwebb> the actual picture
[10:40] <lorolol> oddly enough now mplayer internet plugin now is working with Xine instead of Mplayer
[10:40] <holycow> its such a bloody strange shortcut
[10:40] <arun_> but it seems to be pseudo-transparency.. which sucks.. any ideas?
[10:40] <frySt> afaik, im not an expert but i think i read this on wikipedia :>
[10:40] <holycow> frySt: so if your system completely hangs that should get it
[10:40] <frySt> u can do alt+print+h and look in console to see what other options are avail.
[10:40] <holycow> i doubt it will work if the kernel has oopsed, kb won't be getting any input to the kernel
[10:41] <dogg> im trying to use my bluetooth file transfer program on my friends cell phone but it wont locate his phone
[10:42] <frySt> still i want to play sonic with my gamepad but it wont work :(
[10:42] <lorolol> ok it's working now!!!
[10:42] <lorolol> kewl
[10:42] <lorolol> :-)
[10:42] <lorolol> HOTT!
[10:43] <holycow> frySt: i orderdere one of these --> http://www.geekstuff4u.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=521
[10:43] <holycow> i'll be playing all of those on emulators
[10:44] <frySt> unfortunately i dont got that kind of money :( poor student
[10:45] <frySt> i dont even have TV set so i made roms from my old sega genesis games and now want to play them on linux
[10:45] <frySt> everything worked fine, except for the freaking gamepad
[10:45] <frySt> neither original genesis pad nor my old MS sidewinder
[10:46] <arun_> how do i remove the frame around the kpf icon on the panel?
[10:46] <frySt> and I did everything i could think of and read every how-to that i found
[10:49] <arun_> can i have the taskbar separate from the panel?
[10:54] <frySt> arun_  u can and its not that hard to find
[10:55] <frySt> add to panel.... external taskbar
[10:55] <arun_> frySt: i dont see an external taskbar
[10:55] <arun_> option
[10:56] <arun_> ahh add new panel, you mean
[10:56] <arun_> nice
[10:56] <frySt> jeah i ment :o
[10:57] <arun_> i wish the panel had real transparency and not just pseudo transparency
[10:58] <holycow> kde4 should change a lot of that
[10:58] <holycow> kwin is supposed to have built in everything  beryl is going for
[10:58] <arun_> kde4 will have real transparency?
[10:58] <holycow> well kwin is recreating beryl/compiz
[10:58] <holycow> thus everything will inherit whatever it has
[10:59] <arun_> and that will be without bugs? native effects and transparency?
[10:59] <holycow> when is kde ever without bugs?
[10:59] <holycow> if you have few hundred million lying around feel to donate to properly fund dev teams tho
[11:00] <arun_> i don't have any bugs right now
[11:00] <arun_> everything works nicely
[11:01] <arun_> brb
[11:02] <holycow> dumbass
[11:03] <frySt> :>
[11:03] <frySt> most important think how the panel looks
[11:03] <frySt> -k+g
[11:04] <celeste> Thanks you people are AWESOME
[11:04] <frySt> ^^
[11:05] <celeste> now,  does anyone know of a messenger program for linux
[11:05] <dogg> my Ktorrent crashed due to Signal 11, how do i fix that? i went to bugs.kde.org but it isn't helping me
[11:05] <celeste> that allows you to video chat?
[11:07] <frySt> i think kopete is able to do this but im not 100% sure :>
[11:07] <frySt> newer owned a webcam :<
[11:09] <arun> when i apply shadows to windows, the shadows apply to the bouncing icons as well (the ones that appear when you launch a program)
[11:09] <arun> is there anyway to disable the shadows for just the icons?
[11:10] <grizm> dogg, here are the newest ktorrent packages; http://ktorrent.org/index.php?page=downloads
[11:11] <celeste> how do i add terminal to my open with drop down menu in mozilla?
[11:11] <celeste> sorry "open with"
[11:13] <frySt> hm
[11:13] <frySt> what you mean by that?
[11:13] <dogg> grizm> can i use apt-get to install that
[11:14] <frySt> on the site, it says so
[11:14] <celeste> i mean
[11:15] <celeste> how do I source terminal so it shows up where "archive manager" does?
[11:15] <grizm> dogg> no, you download the package, opena terminal and type; sudo dpkg -i ktorrent****
[11:15] <celeste> in the drop down menu
[11:16] <frySt> i still dont get you, maybe its me, im a bit stupid sometimes hehehehe :(
[11:16] <frySt> what drop down menu exactly?
[11:17] <jerware> hi
[11:17] <jerware> i have a problem with vlc.  it play all wmv files except for the cbt nuggets.
[11:17] <frySt> hi there
[11:17] <frySt> i dont know what cbt nuggets are, but have you tried mplayer?
[11:17] <lorolol> hi
[11:18] <dogg> grizm> it said "dpkg: error processing ktorrent (--install)"
[11:18] <lorolol> in genereal for instance digikam-doc <--- are these docs for developers or for user as a manual?
[11:18] <lorolol> thanks
[11:18] <lorolol> I see that a lot
[11:18] <frySt> doc for users, -dev-doc and -dbg-doc is there too
[11:18] <grizm> dogg, did you download the correct package?
[11:19] <dogg> maybe not let me check
[11:20] <lorolol> can someone answer my question pelase?
[11:20] <lorolol> I'd appreciate it
[11:20] <frySt> i tried to, maybe u overlooked it
[11:20] <Simon_Lost> it's getting worse iiiiirk
[11:20] <lorolol> frySt: oh my bad
[11:20] <lorolol> ok thanks
[11:21] <lorolol> frySt:  so are those helpuful for n00b ppl?
[11:21] <Simon_Lost> if I change the "acpi=off" in the kernel line then I get a double blinking on my keyb at bootup and kubuntu won't load
[11:21] <lorolol> wine is there more like for placebo effect right?
[11:21] <frySt> :>
[11:21] <dogg> grizm> ok i got it installed thanks
[11:21] <frySt> depends, I personally almost never install them :>
[11:21] <lorolol> since everytime I ax here for help in installing those I am scared away about catching viruses and so on
[11:22] <grizm> no prob
[11:22] <frySt> but most of the time they contain usefull info
[11:22] <lorolol> besides everything that wine runs is mad old
[11:22] <frySt> depends on the software in question too
[11:22] <frySt> not each piece is selfexplanatory..
[11:22] <lorolol> frySt: I don't no stinky docs, prolly man pages sometimes
[11:23] <frySt> :>
[11:23] <lorolol> *need
[11:23] <frySt> right.. who needs help for gui tools
[11:23] <frySt> "apply: this button appies the current settings"
[11:24] <frySt> "close: this button terminates the application"
[11:24] <frySt> i say: "OH, REALLY?!"
[11:25] <lorolol> I made a rather stupid mistake I made a separate partition 1G for /var and 500MB for / . Now /tmp is inside / and I realize a lot multimedia apps use /tmp for processing HUGE amounts of data
[11:25] <lorolol> and I only got free for /tmp like 200MB
[11:25] <lorolol> how can I mount /tmp inside /var?
[11:25] <lorolol> something like this /var/tmp
[11:25] <lorolol> thanks
[11:26] <lorolol> even /var with 1G doesn't look very good for like Video and Music processing
[11:26] <grizm> lorolol, many apps let you specify a tmp file
[11:28] <arun> where can i install the tango icon set from
[11:28] <adydas> quick question, am i right in reading online you can get 2 x ide drives and use mdadm to do raid?
[11:28] <lorolol> grizm: ok
[11:28] <lorolol> why audacity keeps complaining about no audio device found even though I set kcontrol to use ALSA?
[11:28] <lorolol> please help
[11:28] <holycow> adydas: yes
[11:28] <lorolol> I am sick of this
[11:29] <grizm> lorolol, you have to stop the artsd server for audacity
[11:29] <lorolol> lorolol: but I don't have that as default
[11:29] <grizm> it probably stiull runs as a daemon
[11:30] <jerware> mplayer gives an error saying "Error selecting video output device"
[11:30] <jerware> doesent it work out of the box?
[11:31] <grizm> lorolol, first try "killall artsd" in a terminal before starting audacity
[11:31] <Mouseball> Anyone have an article on how to install winrar? i can't find it in the lists on adept
[11:31] <arun> anyone here using the tango icon theme?
[11:31] <Ace2016> HI all
[11:32] <arun> Hey Ace2016
[11:32] <Simon_Lost> dang it, this is not working
[11:32] <Ace2016> how do i read from a UDF disk?
[11:32] <lorolol> grizm: ok I did it. But how do I remove farts for good?
[11:33] <lorolol> grizm: still same error
[11:34] <grizm> lorolol, http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~raa110/audacity/linux.html#alsa
[11:35] <lorolol> grizm: thanks
[11:37] <grizm> lorolol, some more tips; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Audacity
[11:37] <combo> how can i install JRE on firefox ?  i downloaded *.bin file extracted it and what now? how can i do 'ln -s'? (i have Kubuntu 7.04 amd64)
[11:38] <lorolol> fusking retarded, how the hell is audacity still using OSS. I mean cmon is not that there is shortage of ALSA coding out there
[11:39] <grizm> :-)
[11:44] <lorolol> !fonts
[11:44] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[11:46] <Mouseball> !winrar
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winrar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <lorolol> Mouseball: it's unrar
[11:47] <arun> where will the icon themes i've installed be located?
[11:48] <lorolol> !restricted
[11:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:48] <frySt> /usr/share/icons/ or /pixmaps
[11:53] <Novell> anyone know how I can limit what commands a user can run with kdesu ? It doesn't honor the ones defined in /etc/sudoers, had to add kdesu_stub for it to even work at all
[11:53] <Gun_Monkey> time for sleep
[11:55] <Simon_Lost> hmmm question
[11:56] <Simon_Lost> are mkv and ogm vids functionning on kubuntu
[11:56] <dvm> i have download the dsl-n. How can i install it on USB drive? Please refer me some URLs
[11:58] <frySt> prolly the dsl-n homepage?
[11:58] <Mouseball> sorry if someone answered already, got disconnected. Is there an equivalent to windows process explorer?
[11:58] <frySt> and if it works the way dsl does its more than easy.. just boot the live cd and use the install to usb stick option
[11:59] <lorolol> there is a package that isn't xine-extracodecs but under another name... I forgot, can someone help me out here?
[12:01] <lorolol> got it
[12:01] <lorolol> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:03] <lorolol> ok am I forgetgin anything else in terms of codecs and restricted formats?
[12:03] <lorolol> what are quicktime codecs?
[12:04] <frySt> apple quicktime .mov
[12:04] <frySt> almost as stupid as /wmv or .rm
[12:05] <lorolol> I know that, I mean what package has them
[12:05] <frySt> mplayer plays them for me
[12:06] <Simon_Lost> ok I'll have to try
[12:06] <lemacs> Any ZFS filesystem user here?
[12:07] <frySt> ah
[12:07] <frySt> the package u need is w32codecs
[12:08] <frySt> but be aware that it is not legal everywhere to install it
[12:08] <frySt> thats also why they are not installed out of the box
[12:15] <Scorpaen> i need help with GRUB install, please
[12:15] <Scorpaen> my root drive is on a promise ultra133tx2 so it shows up as /dev/sda3
[12:16] <Scorpaen> i need some advice
[12:16] <Scorpaen> i am using a custom built kernel, stripped down for size
[12:16] <Scorpaen> on GG a3
[12:17] <Scorpaen> anyone awake?
[12:20] <jtrz> sda3
[12:20] <jtrz> and grub
[12:24] <NiceGuyUK> anyone know the correct mount comand line to mount my ntfs drive as RW ?
[12:30] <NiceGuyUK> !ntfs
[12:30] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:34] <marckie> !envy
[12:34] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[12:35] <arun> what's wrong with audacity
[12:35] <pag> arun, it's ugly.. no other problems I can recall
[12:36] <marckie> has anybody installed envy?
[12:36] <marckie> i wanna install nvidia driver but am hesitant with envy
[12:36] <marckie> it says here that it crashes pc
[12:36] <marckie> !envy
[12:36] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[12:37] <pag> marckie, install the driver official way?
[12:38] <arun> pag: yeah, it's ugly :)
[12:38] <arun> would anyone be able to tell me that when you right click a .deb file and select install package, which font appears in the resulting installer window
[12:38] <arun> i love it
[12:41] <incorrect> is there a qt based ldap browser?
[12:41] <Lynoure> arun: there was some font site that would detect the font based on a screenshot...
[12:46] <arun> doesnt seem to be installed on my computer
[12:47] <nicolai_> marckie: If you need an easy way to install the nvidia driver I suggest using KDE's own method
[12:48] <arun> frostwire doesnt run for me.. any suggestions?
[12:48] <marckie> nicolai: well I guess you're right
[12:48] <pag> arun, you have java?
[12:48] <arun> pag: i'm assuming i do, since i can run azureus
[12:48] <marckie> no one else knows Kubuntu but Kubuntu... right?
[12:48] <pag> !frostwire | arun
[12:48] <ubotu> arun: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[12:49] <nicolas_> Hi, I've got a Davicom Semiconductor 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet pci card but it doesn't work. I've googled and all I found was old info about the tulip and dmfe modules (they all said to unload tulip and load dmfe, but that was fixed in dapper).
[12:49] <nicolas_> How do I get it to work?
[12:50] <nicolai_> marckie: First install nvidia-glx, then go to system settings -> monitor and display -> hardware -> admin -> configure -> proprietary
[12:50] <arun> pag: i tried the solution mentioned there, but i dont get any alternatives with 'sun' in them
[12:52] <pag> nicolas_, hmm maybe " sudo modprobe -r tulip && sudo modprobe dmfe "
[12:52] <pag> arun, so install sun-java6-jre
[12:52] <nicolas_> pag tulip isn't loaded, dmfe is
[12:52] <arun> pag: i tried, it says doesnt exist
[12:52] <arun> i have multiverse enabled
[12:52] <pag> nicolas_, oh.. hmm... try the other way around? :P
[12:53] <pag> arun, are you running 64bit?
[12:53] <arun> 32bit
[12:53] <nicolas_> pag: already did, it's worse, it doesn't even detect there's a net card
[12:53] <pag> arun, does " apt-cache searct sun-java " output anything?
[12:54] <arun>  it says 'frostwire - a truly free and open source...'
[12:55] <pag> nicolas_, ok.. so doesn't it work at all, or just some specific programm (ie. konq. has caused problems due the knetworkmanager)
[12:55] <nicolas_> pag: doesn
[12:55] <nicolas_> pag: doesn't work at all
[12:55] <nicolai_> marckie: did it work?
[12:57] <arun> is frostwire worth downloading? as in, does it work well?
[12:59] <pag> nicolas_, ok.. try; " sudo rmmod tulip; sudo rmmod dmfe; sudo modprobe dmfe; sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart "
[01:01] <marckie> nicolai: sorry for the delayed reply... well im still configuring everything
[01:01] <marckie> I will be posting updates if all will be good...
[01:01] <marckie> thanks!
[01:01] <nicolas_> pag: it doesn't an IP
[01:02] <nicolas_> pag: I know the rest of the network is okay because in win dhcp worked
[01:02] <nicolas_> pag: and the other pc has linux and runs okay, so the router is okay
[01:04] <nicolas_> pag: it doesn't get an IP
[01:04] <pag> nicolas_, ok.. sorry, but I'm out of ideas.
[01:05] <nicolas_> pag: thanks for your help
[01:07] <nicolas_> pag: I found out... the network admin had a MAC filter...Sorry for all the trouble. Gonna kill him >(
[01:08] <pag> nicolas_, np :)
[01:08] <Nahi> hello
[01:08] <Nahi> can someone help me in a laptop battery monitoring problem ?
[01:09] <frySt> hi, i wonder if its possible to check wheter my soundcards gameport is broken
[01:09] <maverick_> anyone knows about this issue, how can i disable fsck 1.40-wip from starting on boot?!
[01:09] <arun> Hey Nahi
[01:09] <Nahi> hello arun
[01:09] <arun> Nahi: what laptop battery monitoring problem
[01:10] <Nahi> i have a problem when i unplug my laptop my battery monitor keeps showing its charging and when its not doing that its take a lot of time to tell me switching to battery mode or to ac mode like 3 -6 mins
[01:10] <pag> maverick_, you want to disable it totally or just not to check your HDs?
[01:10] <arun> which laptop do you have?
[01:10] <Nahi> i have hp compaq nx9000
[01:12] <Nahi> i've unplug it for 5 mins now and it still showing its plugged in
[01:12] <maverick_> pag: not to check my HDs
[01:12] <pag> maverick_, iirc you can disable it in fstab...
[01:13] <pag> maverick_, probably the last number of the line should be changed to 0
[01:14] <maverick_> pag: any idea how to edit the fstab file?!\
[01:14] <pag> maverick_, kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[01:14] <maverick_> thank you
[01:14] <maverick_> pag: thank you
[01:14] <Gentine> Shit, jews.
[01:14] <pag> maverick_, I'm not sure it it works, so don't thank me before it does ;)
[01:15] <arun> For some reason i can't type anything into the frostwire search boxes
[01:15] <pag> !language | Gentine
[01:15] <ubotu> Gentine: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:15] <arun> if i type something it doesnt show
[01:15] <arun> but the cursor blinks
[01:15] <arun> why is that
[01:15] <Nahi> hello:  i have a problem when i unplug my laptop my battery monitor keeps showing its charging and when its not doing that its take a lot of time to tell me switching to battery mode or to ac mode like 3 -6 mins
[01:15] <maverick_> pag: i'll restart now and see...brb
[01:16] <Gentine> ubuntu.
[01:16] <Gentine> Ubun2
[01:20] <maverick_> pag: thx, it worked.
[01:23] <Nahi> hello:  i have a problem when i unplug my laptop my battery monitor keeps showing its charging and when its not doing that its take a lot of time to tell me switching to battery mode or to ac mode like 3 -6 mins
[01:28] <icefox> Would it be possible to get the iceweasle packages in kubuntu?
[01:28] <Ragol> has anyone else tried burning cds/dvds with current lenovo desktop models?
[01:29] <Ragol> I can't use their internal drive, but an external usb-burner works fine
[01:29] <icefox> I mean do I just have to find a dev to maintain the package or is does kubuntu not allow some packages?
[01:29] <arun> Nahi: the power monitor seems to be a bit faulty in some laptops
[01:29] <pag> icefox, you can always start maintaining them yourself - they might even be accepted to Universe :)
[01:30] <Nahi> arun; but when i reboot its runs okay for the next few days then this starts to happen
[01:30] <icefox> Universe?
[01:30] <pag> icefox, community OS repo
[01:30] <icefox> debian already has the packages so it might be as simple as pulling it down to kubuntu
[01:30] <Ragol> I think it's somehow related to the fact, the the cd/dvd-burner is not a ide model anymore, it's using sata...
[01:30] <Ragol> any ideas?
[01:31] <Ragol> or should I just file a bug report with enough information?
[01:31] <Nahi> !seen<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:31] <pag> icefox, true... you can discuss packaging and related stuff on #ubuntu-motu
[01:31] <icefox> ok, thanks
[01:34] <Nahi> would anyone offer me some information please
[01:34] <Nahi> i cant find anything on the forum about this issue
[01:36] <pag> Nahi, I'd love to, but unfortunatly I have no experience in laptops what-so-ever. try asking again in a few hours and maybe someone knows the answer :)
[01:36] <Nahi> okay thank you:>
[01:37] <Nahi> i dont want to reboot when i do it will be fixed but still it will be the same after few days
[01:37] <Nahi> ;p
[01:38] <Nahi> box's uptime is:  06:37:23 up 7 days,  5:44,  1 user,  load average: 0.37, 0.67, 0.92
[01:38] <Nahi> last time it crashed cause of amarok :@
[01:40] <Ragol> so, no one has any info about k3b with sata dvd/cd-burners?
[01:40] <Daller> Can anyone help me setting up a local printer?
[01:41] <Tursi> je tu nejaky cech co se vyzna ?
[01:41] <Daller> My problem is that the "local printer" in system settings is greyed out... how can that be?
[01:42] <pag> !cz | Tursi
[01:42] <ubotu> Tursi: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz.  I'd like to remind you that this channel should be kept family fiendly - so watch your language please.
[02:06] <Nahi> yes
[02:06] <jerry> oke sorry
[02:06] <Nahi> jerry; yeh no swearing dude
[02:06] <dthacker> ! language | jerry
[02:06] <ubotu> jerry: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:06] <jerry> blame me
[02:06] <Nahi> anyways bill gates sux and microsoft does too ;p
[02:07] <jerry> the package managment is  more powerfull than linux exe files
[02:07] <[ifroog] > Nahi, could you explain :D sounds interesting ..!!
[02:07] <Nahi> after i saw vista im never using windows ever again
[02:08] <jerry> me 2 ;-)
[02:08] <Nahi> first its a copy paste of mac and *nix
[02:08] <Nahi> then it took me 10 mins to connect to wireless network
[02:08] <jerry> i tought no vista for jerry,
[02:08] <jerry> pff
[02:08] <jerry> crappy
[02:08] <Nahi> would not lie and tell u its ugly the graphics are amazing but its all stolen and not originally invented
[02:08] <jerry> the soundblaster live 5.1 is not support anymore
[02:09] <jerry> in linux it works great and it is a good audioplate :P
[02:09] <Nahi> yeh a lot of stuff isn't compatible
[02:09] <frySt> now just tell me how to get gamepad going on oldass sb live! player 1024
[02:09] <frySt> :)
[02:09] <frySt> loaded all modules with sudo modprobe like the how-to said
[02:10] <frySt> but nothing worked.. there simply are no /dev/js or /dev/input/js nodes createda
[02:10] <jerry> i dont use the gameport
[02:10] <frySt> and if i try to make them myself it says no device found
[02:10] <frySt> i have to use it
[02:10] <jerry> do you game in linux?
[02:10] <frySt> yeah :>
[02:10] <runlevelten> God yeah
[02:10] <jerry> i game Ut2004
[02:11] <frySt> me quakeworld and q3a
[02:11] <jerry> nice
[02:11] <frySt> and oldass sega roms
[02:11] <frySt> but it sux without the gamepad
[02:11] <jerry> my feeling in linux is that everything is smoother
[02:11] <jerry> windows lags verry much when you install crappy software
[02:11] <frySt> .i.e. ms updates
[02:12] <jerry> hehe al the articles on internet sometimes, windows crashes by microsoft updater ***lollll
[02:12] <frySt> update should be renamed into spyware-installer
[02:12] <frySt> :>
[02:13] <jerry> microsoft-lag-installer
[02:13] <Nahi> lol
[02:13] <frySt> hehe ure dutch, with that @home cable
[02:13] <runlevelten> arrrrrrgggg.
[02:13] <jerry> payed-crap-installer
[02:13] <frySt> used to have that too, until recently when i moved to aachen
[02:13] <jerry> how do you mean @home cable? no problem with that
[02:13] <runlevelten> Anyone found pylint+eric3 broken in feisty?
[02:13] <frySt> me neither
[02:14] <pag> !offtopic | jerry, frySt
[02:14] <ubotu> jerry, frySt: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:14] <frySt> rox, very fast but u can see user-id in ip
[02:14] <frySt> that sux.
[02:14] <frySt> but i dont have it anymore because i moved to germany
[02:14] <frySt> hee
[02:15] <marckie> whats up?
[02:15] <marckie> what's better?
[02:15] <marckie> synaptic or adept?
[02:15] <marckie> i like both...
[02:15] <frySt> 6 hours solid waste in trying to fix that gamepad/joystick under linux, THATS up
[02:15] <jerry> im off, bye people
[02:15] <frySt> goede middach
[02:15] <jerry> some 2 you
[02:16] <marckie> haha...
[02:16] <runlevelten> !better | marckie
[02:16] <ubotu> marckie: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:16] <pag> marckie, synaptic has more options than adept iirc... apt is best (imho) :)
[02:16] <marckie> yeah i guess so...
[02:16] <runlevelten> I think synaptic is a lot better than adept - nicer interface, more stable.
[02:16] <marckie> i also use apt when im in a hurry..
[02:17] <runlevelten> I also think it should be standard in kubuntu.
[02:17] <marckie> mmmm...
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> no, Adept IS better.
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> but synaptic is a little easier to sue
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> *use
[02:18] <frySt> apt-get moo
[02:18] <frySt> ;)
[02:19] <marckie> does anybody used the compiz fusion with the aquarium thinggy?
[02:19] <marckie> haha...
[02:19] <pag> aptitude moo  is funnier :)
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> marckie: haha heard about that.... i'm waiting until compiz fusion is stable...
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> did you see the paper airplane plugin?
[02:21] <Daller> How do I move kmails accounts to a new computer?
[02:22] <nick_>
[02:22] <marckie> nosrednaekim: well i really wanted to try it out...
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> kmail's settings and mail is stored in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail
[02:23] <Daller> I moved the entire directory to the new computer, but the passwords seems to be lost!
[02:23] <marckie> Linux is so... great i cant wait...
[02:23] <frySt> '>
[02:23] <Daller> The passwords are NOT saved in kwallet, by the way!
[02:23] <frySt> it can be a pita too
[02:23] <frySt> but its certainly fun
[02:24] <pag> Daller, ~/kde/share/config/kmailrc  maybe?
[02:25] <marckie> Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.
[02:25] <marckie> I have that error in Firefox
[02:25] <marckie> I already installed the swf (flash player)
[02:25] <pag> !flash | marckie
[02:25] <marckie> Cant watch flash in web
[02:25] <ubotu> marckie: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:26] <Daller> pag> thank you! - you just saved my day!
[02:26] <pag> np :)
[02:27] <yotux> can anyone offer some help with this: bin/sh: Can't access tty;
[02:30] <Daller> Is anyone familiar with the "greyed out"-issue in creating a printer in system settings?
[02:36] <Daller> When I start the printer-wizard from system settings, I can't select "local printer" because it's greyed out...
[02:36] <Daller> ...The printer is supported! (It runs fine on my old computer)
[02:36] <Daller> Any ideas?
[02:37] <pag> Daller, not sure... maybe it requiers root-priveledges
[02:38] <Daller> I've tried that also... not any better... Weird issue...
[02:39] <Daller> But what may be that cause for this behaviour?
[02:39] <Daller> ...could it be that it doesn't recognize any printer on my usb/parallel ports?
[02:40] <Simon_Templar> hi again
[02:40] <Simon_Templar> not like I enjoy it but I need to open two ports
[02:40] <Daller> The printer is connected with a USB-Parallel converter (which I also checked on another machine!)
[02:41] <Simon_Templar> how would I tell ubuntu to do this ?
[02:41] <tfreire> I was able to build fop without hassle on my system. Now, I would liek to make a .deb package, and possibly contribute it to the ubuntu repositories. Can anyone point me on the right directions?
[02:42] <pag> !packaging | tfreire
[02:42] <ubotu> tfreire: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[02:44] <tfreire> thx
[02:48] <nhoca> hi
[02:48] <Daller> Problem adding printer: When I start the printer-wizard from system settings, I can't select "local printer" because it's greyed out...
[02:48] <pag> hello nhoca :)
[02:49] <hatter> i have an icon on the desktop that i cant delete, if i right click on it it says ~/home/user/Desktop/tsclient.desktop has an invalid menu entry    full.
[02:49] <pag> hatter, try selecting it and pressing shift+del
[02:50] <hatter> pag, that did it , thx
[02:50] <hatter> do u know why that error ?
[02:50] <pag> hatter, I have no idea :D it was just a lucky guess
[02:53] <Nahi> hello:  i have a problem when i unplug my laptop my battery monitor keeps showing its charging
[02:54] <nhoca> Nahi, try to wait a little bit. In my laptop sometimes it takes a bit to realise the battery has been unplugged
[02:54] <Nahi> nhoca; i wanted for 30 mins
[02:54] <Nahi> usually it shows directly
[02:54] <Nahi> but now its not
[02:55] <nhoca> oh...ok
[02:55] <nhoca> try to reinstall the power manager
[02:55] <Daller> Nahi: Is your battery recognized?
[02:55] <Nahi> yes
[02:55] <Nahi> it was working last night
[02:55] <Nahi> now its not
[02:56] <Daller> Hmm... did you upgrade?
[02:56] <Nahi> yes
[02:56] <Nahi> full upgrades
[02:56] <genii> Aaah upgrades
[02:56] <Daller> Well, and what version of *ubuntu?
[02:57] <Daller> Nahi: 6.06, 7.04 or 7.10 ?
[02:58] <Nahi> 7.04 i guess
[02:58] <Roey> whoah, weird
[02:58] <Roey> I just read
[02:58] <Nahi> yes 7.04
[02:58] <Nahi> ;p
 full upgrades
 Aaah upgrades
[02:58] <Roey> *<Nahi>
[02:58] <Roey> as
[02:59] <Nahi> root@sanctuary:~# lsb_release -a
[02:59] <Nahi> No LSB modules are available.
[02:59] <Nahi> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[02:59] <Nahi> Description:    Ubuntu 7.04
[02:59] <Nahi> Release:        7.04
[02:59] <Nahi> Codename:       feisty
 allah upgrades
[02:59] <Roey> weird.
[02:59] <Nahi> didn't know the have a new release thow
[02:59] <Daller> Nahi: 7.04 upgrades are supposed to be stable... That's weird!
[02:59] <Roey> b/c genii comes from djinn in arabic
[02:59] <Nahi> Daller; well if i reboot it will work
[02:59] <Roey> and full + aah  sort of sounds like allah.
[02:59] <genii> Roey :)
[02:59] <Nahi> then after few days same problem
[02:59] <Daller> New release every 6 months (if done)
[03:00] <Daller> Nahi: Was that a question?
[03:00] <Roey> genii:  There should be a word for interesting misreadings from two or more independent chatters
[03:00] <genii> dist upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 is mostly painless but when from an earlier version if you try to shortcut it, causes some grief
[03:00] <Roey> genii:  will the upgrade to gutsy gibbon be seamless?
[03:00] <Nahi> my battery monitor keeps showing 100% even when unplugged
[03:01] <Daller> So it's periodic... Damn... It seems like a battery recognition issue...
[03:01] <genii> Roey: Since 6.10 there is an upgrade manager so if not seamless then at least not excruciating
[03:02] <Nahi> Daller; no it was working for yesterday
[03:02] <Daller> genii: apt-get dist-upgrade is the only way! - The GUI's are really buggy!
[03:02] <Nahi> now its not
[03:02] <Daller> Nahi: But rebooting helped?
[03:02] <Nahi> yes
[03:02] <Daller> Nahi: I have no idea...
[03:02] <Nahi> which i will not do cause i really want some background processes to stay running
[03:03] <Daller> Nahi: please run "cat /proc/battery" (I'm not at a laptop, so I might be wrong!)
[03:03] <Nahi> root@sanctuary:~# cat /proc/battery
[03:03] <Nahi> cat: /proc/battery: No such file or directory
[03:04] <Daller> Hmm... can you autocomplete?
[03:04] <Nahi> sorry ?
[03:04] <Daller> When you write it, you can press "Tab" several times, to make it autocomplete...
[03:05] <Daller> Try autocompleting with "cat /proc/"
[03:05] <Nahi> nothing related to battery
[03:05] <Daller> christen@christen-desktop:~$ cat /proc/Display all 162 possibilities? (y or n)
[03:05] <Daller> ...and press "y" and post the output! (a lot)
[03:05] <Nahi> yes
[03:06] <Nahi> i did that
[03:06] <Nahi> nothing related to battery
[03:06] <llutz> Nahi: /proc/acpi/battery
[03:06] <Nahi> root@sanctuary:~# cat /proc/acpi/battery
[03:06] <Nahi> cat: /proc/acpi/battery: Is a directory
[03:06] <Daller> Ilutz: Thank you!
[03:06] <Daller> Nahi: Autocomplete...
[03:07] <Nahi> okay
[03:07] <Nahi> info alarm state
[03:07] <Daller> Nahi: state
[03:07] <Daller> Nahi: or info...
[03:08] <Daller> Nahi: If this says 100% and "plugged in" the ACPI itself is bugged
[03:08] <Nahi> present:                 yes
[03:08] <Nahi> design capacity:         4400 mAh
[03:08] <Nahi> last full capacity:      2016 mAh
[03:08] <Nahi> battery technology:      rechargeable
[03:08] <Nahi> design voltage:          14800 mV
[03:08] <Nahi> design capacity warning: 300 mAh
[03:08] <Nahi> design capacity low:     200 mAh
[03:08] <Nahi> capacity granularity 1:  32 mAh
[03:08] <runlevelten> !pastebin
[03:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:08] <Nahi> capacity granularity 2:  32 mAh
[03:08] <Nahi> model number:            01KT
[03:08] <Nahi> serial number:           7
[03:08] <Nahi> battery type:            LION
[03:09] <Nahi> OEM info:                SMP-PA
[03:09] <Nahi> oh sorry
[03:09] <Nahi> lol
[03:09] <Daller> Nahi: Pretty old laptop?
[03:09] <hatter> how do i make sure beryl starts on reboot ?
[03:09] <Nahi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31904/
[03:10] <Nahi> Daller; no
[03:10] <Nahi> its hp compaq nx9000
[03:10] <Daller> Nahi: Your battery is less that 50% efficient!
[03:10] <Nahi> its 2.0M intel
[03:10] <pag> hatter, ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart  ?
[03:10] <Daller> Nahi: Was that the output from both /info and /state?
[03:10] <stdin> Nahi: check if /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ADP0/state exists
[03:11] <Nahi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31904/
[03:11] <Nahi> check
[03:11] <Nahi> the first one i pased here was info
[03:11] <Nahi> that one on pastebin is state
[03:11] <Nahi> oc/acpi/ac_adapter/ADP0/state: No such file or directory
[03:12] <Daller> And it's plugged in?
[03:12] <stdin> Nahi: anything in /proc/acpi/ac_adapter ?
[03:12] <hatter> pag, ah cool, i didnt know about the kde autostart
[03:12] <Nahi> root@sanctuary:~# /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ACAD/
[03:12] <Nahi> bash: /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ACAD/: is a directory
[03:12] <hatter> pag, thx
[03:12] <pag> hatter, np :)
[03:13] <stdin> Nahi: put "ls /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ADP0/state"
[03:13] <Nahi> root@sanctuary:~# ls /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ADP0/state
[03:13] <Nahi> ls: /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ADP0/state: No such file or directory
 Roey: Since 6.10 there is an upgrade manager so if not seamless then at least not excruciating
[03:13] <Roey> oh good
[03:14] <Roey> There is something that bothers me, though
[03:14] <Daller> Problem adding printer: When I start the printer-wizard from system settings, I can't select "local printer" because it's greyed out...
[03:14] <stdin> Nahi: ok, "ls /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/" ?
[03:14] <Roey> The Qt-KDE style really clobbers xchat's tab highlighting
[03:14] <Nahi> root@sanctuary:~# ls /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/
[03:14] <Nahi> ACAD
[03:14] <Roey> AscendedDaniel:  interesting nick
[03:14] <Roey> AscendedDaniel:  New to GNU/Linux?
[03:15] <stdin> Nahi: ok, what about "cat /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ACAD/state" ?
[03:15] <Nahi> root@sanctuary:~# cat /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ACAD/state
[03:15] <Nahi> state:                   on-line
[03:15] <stdin> Nahi: is the AC plugged in?
[03:15] <Nahi> yes
[03:15] <Nahi> i'll plug it out
[03:16] <stdin> Nahi: see if the state changes after
[03:16] <Nahi> still showing on-line
[03:16] <stdin> wait a sec, and try again
[03:16] <Nahi> even the icon keeps showing its plugged
[03:16] <stdin> still saying "on-line" ?
[03:17] <Nahi> yes
[03:17] <stdin> hmm, seem that ACPI isn't working properly then
[03:17] <Nahi> can i kill it and restart it ?
[03:18] <stdin> no, it's not a service it's built in to the BIOS
[03:18] <Nahi> oh
[03:18] <Nahi> i dont want to reboot
[03:18] <Nahi> :(
[03:18] <stdin> I doubt you could fix it
[03:19] <Nahi> but it was working before i dunno why its not now
[03:19] <stdin> have you recently updated the kernel?
[03:19] <Nahi> no
[03:19] <Nahi> no kernel updates for 7.04
[03:19] <Nahi> i updated iptables
[03:19] <Nahi> few days ago
[03:19] <Nahi> i did full upgrades when i installed it
[03:20] <Nahi> and no kernel upgrades since then
[03:20] <Daller> Nahi: Did you reboot at all since upgrade?
[03:20] <Nahi> yes i did
[03:20] <Nahi> only when i do kernel upgrades
[03:21] <Simon_LOst> awright
[03:22] <evandrocg> ceara
[03:22] <Simon_LOst> <i installed firestarted and specified it to let things thru  the 2 ports I want to use
[03:22] <Simon_LOst> but still filetopia says no network
[03:22] <Simon_LOst> suggestions very welcome x___x
[03:23] <stdin> Simon_LOst: behind a router?
[03:24] <Simon_LOst> yes but both ports open on that router too, I made sure about it
[03:24] <Simon_LOst> bothudp and tcp, on the router
[03:24] <stdin> you forwarded the ports to your internal IP?
[03:25] <Simon_LOst> to the machine's IP? yes
[03:25] <Simon_LOst> but in kubuntu how to set it so tcp and undp are opened on these ports I found no way
[03:25] <stdin> and firestarter will just confuse you, it's not really needed when you have a router
[03:26] <Simon_LOst> what would you suggest to me ? :)
[03:27] <stdin> make sure you have set the right ports to be forwarded, you don't have to do anything to "open" a port on kubuntu, it will open what ever ports it needs
[03:28] <Simon_LOst> well... in my router they sure are forwarded
[03:28] <Simon_LOst> but still I get told no network
[03:29] <Simon_LOst> only with this app
[03:29] <Simon_LOst> Filetopia
[03:29] <stdin> it's something to do with that app then, see if it has a FAQ or forum
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> Did an install on this box and am getting an error 21 with grub.. How annoying.
[03:46] <rouzic> Hi
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> got an ide drive and a sata drive. Im thinking that the OS has them in one order,. and grub sees them in the other order.
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> Howdy
[03:46] <rouzic> Does someone know which is the license of Kubuntu's logo?
[03:47] <pag> rouzic, http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[03:47] <rouzic> thanks pag :)
[03:49] <ninHer> hi all
[03:50] <pag> hi :)
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> amazing how fast one can install Linux to a box. :)
[03:57] <cloakable> Yus
[03:58] <genii> Dr_Willis: Too bad about the grub thing. I had lately to set the bios in compatability modse for the sata so it looks like an IDE tot he OS
[03:58] <genii> bleh typos
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> genii: yea - not sure if its a grub config issue.. or if its a bios/pc issue. this is an older machine. one of the first that came out with IDE and sata. I cant recall ever hav ing it boot any os off the sata disk
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> i added a 250gb ide drive to it. :) got it booting from there. will use the 500gb sata as home i guess. :)
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> .75TB of storage . weee...
[04:01] <genii> Dr_Willis: Even terabytes of space get chewed up fast nowadats, storing video etc etc ...
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> Yep.
[04:01] <genii> *nowadays*
[04:02] <guybrush> hi
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> picked up  500gb hd's for $100 - that will keep me for a while
[04:02] <genii> I need more coffee :)
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> My / was a 30gb hd!
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> now its a 250 :) plus added 500gb for /home
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> i can replace my huge stack of hd's for $100 which is nice.
[04:02] <genii> Yup
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> now it will take me a week to move all the stuff over to the 500gb hd.
[04:03] <llutz> are the 500s that slow? ;)
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> the other drives are now on the network box. via USB
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> plus i need to take the time to sort all the junk and remove the duplicate stuff
[04:04] <cloakable> Dr_Willis: What are you going to use a 250GB / for? My / is 20GB of a 40GB disk.
[04:04] <guybrush> i've got a problem with my msi us54se usb wlan stick. it should have a zd1211b chipset, which supposedly works without tinkering. however I can't cennct to my AP (with WPA2). I tried to configure wpa_supplicant, but it does work right
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> it really sucks space whenyou accidently have 2  whole copies of a 60 eposide tv series.
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> cloakable:
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> Mythtv :)
[04:04] <guybrush> *doesn't*
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> my 40gb was full.. - the storage drive for mythtv was almost full
[04:05] <llutz> if i remove all junk/duplicates i don't need even a 20gb hdd ...
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> Now the 40gb is going into an ide enclosure - for 'special' video storage. :)
[04:06] <knowledge25k> hello everibody
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> hi
[04:07] <knowledge25k> can anybody help me with some problem im having ?
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> depends on the problem. :)
[04:10] <knowledge25k> i keep reciving & error message,every time i try to download something
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> download with what.. and whats the message (or summary of them)
[04:12] <trakinas> !es
[04:12] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:13] <knowledge25k> like synaptic  temminal
[04:14] <knowledge25k> r u still here
[04:14] <cloakable> Dr_Willis: Ahhh XD
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> Im right here.. you are not being very clear...
[04:15] <pag> knowledge25k, what kind of errors?
[04:15] <trakinas> does anyone here speak spanish? I just need help translating a song, not with ubuntu. :P
[04:16] <knowledge25k> anything that i try to download i recive & error from synaptic
[04:16] <NightBird> knowledge25k: what is the error?
[04:17] <genii> trakina Why not just use something like babelfish online translator?
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> so lets calrify this. 'you are trying to install new packages from synaptic, and you are unable to download the packages' ?
[04:17] <knowledge25k> like a sudo error
[04:17] <trakinas> genii: because I need it precisely. i know what the song means, but i need a good tanslation.
[04:18] <pag> knowledge25k, 'like a'? incorrect password or what?
[04:18] <trakinas> part of the song makes no sense at all translated by those online tools and also it does not translate some words
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> knowledge25k:  you did run synaptic with 'sudo' or ksudo, or whatever its called.. 'gksu' ?
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> !kdesu
[04:18] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> kdesu synaptic    - is the proper way to run synaptic
[04:18] <pag> knowledge25k, or something related to /var/lock ?
[04:19] <pawan> hi
[04:20] <pag> !hi | pawan
[04:20] <ubotu> pawan: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:20] <knowledge25k> i try tat everytihing. everything i try i recive & error message
[04:21] <pag> knowledge25k, what does the error say?
[04:22] <s0nix> it's funny. "Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application>" ...... but 50% of time i want tu use kdesu...... the dialog for asking password did never show ..
[04:23] <pag> s0nix, well that's a bug (pretty wellknown too iirc)
[04:23] <knowledge25k> hello
[04:24] <[ifr0g] > Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-386/build;
[04:24] <s0nix> is it that hard to fix ? ;P
[04:24] <[ifr0g] > what am i missing ??
[04:25] <wilman> hey guys, i have a quickcam communicate but it is not detected bij my ubuntu edgy, i have installed the drivers etc but it just does'nt detect it, what to do?
[04:25] <spawn57> is that a really really really new webcam?
[04:26] <knowledge25k> hi;
[04:26] <knowledge25k> i need help
[04:27] <BluesKaj> !ask
[04:27] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:28] <BlindSide> s0nix: gksu never fails ;)
[04:28] <Daller> Problem setting up a printer: Local printer greyed out in printer-wizard!
[04:30] <s0nix> BlindSide: ohh i know that :) ...... is this ok if i use gksudo under kde?
[04:30] <BlindSide> no idea
[04:30] <BlindSide> haha
[04:30] <BlindSide> (ubuntu user)
[04:30] <s0nix> :P
[04:30] <s0nix> so, what r u doing here !!
[04:30] <BlindSide> im sure it will run if u install it however
[04:30] <s0nix> hehe, just kidding
[04:30] <trakinas> s0nix: guess there isnt
[04:30] <BluesKaj> use kdesu in the command box
[04:30] <BlindSide> since i am uisng konversation right now
[04:31] <Daller> s0nix: gksudo runs well under KDE
[04:31] <BlindSide> yeah i wud think so
[04:31] <trakinas> i use a lot of gtk based softwares.
[04:31] <s0nix> perfect
[04:31] <trakinas> not a loooooooot, but many of my fav are gtk... hehe
[04:31] <s0nix> like?
[04:31] <s0nix> im curious
[04:32] <Daller> Is there a printer-guru present?
[04:32] <batchaas> bonsoir a tous
[04:32] <Daller> ...I'm setting up a Dell Dimension C521, and the only issued remaining, is installing the printer...
[04:32] <BluesKaj> well, if you want to edit files such as sourceslist etc kdesu kate in the run command dialog box is thew way to go
[04:32] <pag> !fr | batchaas
[04:32] <ubotu> batchaas: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:32] <s0nix> batchaas: #kubuntu-fr
[04:33] <batchaas> ok
[04:33] <CaptainApathy> hm..
[04:33] <knowledge25k> any body know what that mean?Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1
[04:34] <trakinas> !pastebin | knowledge25k
[04:34] <ubotu> knowledge25k: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:35] <BluesKaj> knowledge25k:  what were you trying to install ?
[04:35] <genii> Daller Exactly what make/model is the printer. Also does it do other things like scan, fax etc
[04:36] <Daller> It's a HP Deskjet 5550 - and it runs flawlessly on another kubuntu machine... (same version)
[04:36] <Daller> genii: The option "local printer" is greyed out in the printer-wizard! - what can that mean?
[04:36] <genii> Daller TCP type?
[04:37] <Daller> genii: TCP type? - huh? - It's local parallel
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> I got a little parralel port printer->network gizmo the other day. Turned my 10 yr old laser into a network laser! ;) handy
[04:40] <Daller> genii: I'm replacing an older pc with a Dell Dimension C521, and need to setup the printer on the new pc...
[04:40] <Daller> genii: ...but it seems weird that it worked on the other pc, but not this...
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> perhaps an ecp/parallel port setting in the biox.
[04:41] <Daller> genii: But is the "greyed out"-issue due to no printers recognized, or what may cause this behaviour?
[04:41] <llutz> Daller: check if cups is running
[04:41] <Daller> llutz: it is!
[04:42] <llutz> Daller: have you tried to add the printer in the cups-webfrontend?
[04:42] <Daller> It's running through a USB-parallel converter, which is also working (tested on the other machine)
[04:43] <Daller> llutz: I can't select "local" there either...
[04:43] <s0nix> the "Open with" with the checkbox REMEMBER application association is supposed to work? (video file)
[04:44] <Daller> I can select these device-types:
[04:44] <Daller> <SELECT NAME="DEVICE_URI"><OPTION VALUE="socket" >AppSocket/HP JetDirect </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="beh" >Backend Error Handler </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="bluetooth" >Bluetooth printer </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="hpfax" >HP Fax (HPLIP) </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="hp" >HP Printer (HPLIP) </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="http" >Internet Printing Protocol (http) </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="ipp" >Internet Printing Protocol (ipp) </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="lpd" >LPD/LPR Hos
[04:44] <Daller> Printer </OPTION><OPTION VALUE="smb" >Windows Printer via SAMBA </OPTION></SELECT>
[04:45] <trakinas> !pastebin | Daller
[04:45] <ubotu> Daller: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:45] <BluesKaj> Daller:  are you networked with the other pc ?
[04:46] <genii> sorry for lag, work AFK
[04:46] <Daller> BluesKaj: No, and the other PC is about to be disconnected and removed from the house...
[04:46] <Daller> Here's the choices from cups: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31918/
[04:50] <awi> hi, all
[04:51] <awi> please, help me with via 6410 raid
[04:54] <Daller> http://localhost:631 is inaccessible on the old machine... Can I check if cupsys is running?
[04:54] <jhutchins> Daller: Need to modprobe the parallel port driver.
[04:55] <Daller> jhutchins: Any ideas what module?
[04:55] <knowledge25k> anybody know what that is?Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1
[04:56] <Daller> knowledge25k: can we have the rest of the error message?
[04:57] <BluesKaj> Daller , since there no linux drivers available for the printer , using cups is the way to go ...it emulates the windows drivers and makes the printer work ASFAIK . I'm using an HP Deskjet 3520 on wife'w windows pc , as a networked printer thru cups
[04:57] <knowledge25k> i'm sorry.
[04:57] <knowledge25k> dpkg: error processing texlive-lang-spanish (--configure):
[04:57] <knowledge25k>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:57] <knowledge25k> Setting up clvm (2.02.06-2ubuntu9) ...
[04:57] <knowledge25k> Starting Cluster LVM Daemon clvmd could not connect to cluster manager
[04:57] <knowledge25k> Consult syslog for more information
[04:57] <knowledge25k> invoke-rc.d: initscript clvm, action "start" failed.
[04:57] <knowledge25k> dpkg: error processing clvm (--configure):
[04:57] <knowledge25k>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3
[04:57] <knowledge25k> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:57] <knowledge25k>  texlive-lang-spanish
[04:57] <knowledge25k>  clvm
[04:57] <knowledge25k> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:58] <jhutchins> Daller: parport_pc on this one (not ubuntu).
[04:58] <BluesKaj> knowledge25k:  next time use pastebin
[04:58] <jhutchins> !pastebin | knowledge25k
[04:58] <ubotu> knowledge25k: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:59] <Daller> jhutchins: Still greyed out...
[04:59] <jhutchins> Daller: restart cups
[05:01] <Daller> jhutchins: How? - i forgot the command!
[05:01] <jhutchins> /etc/init.d/cupsd restart
[05:02] <Daller> christen@christen-desktop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/cupsd restartsudo: /etc/init.d/cupsd: command not found
[05:02] <knowledge25k> i keep reciving & error message every time i try to download from synaptic or the root terminal?can anibody help me?
[05:03] <Daller> knowledge25k: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=513230
[05:04] <BluesKaj> knowledge25k:  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:04] <jhutchins> Daller: just cups then, not cupsd.  Use tab completion.
[05:05] <Daller> jhutchins: Still no local printer option!
[05:06] <knowledge25k> i ready have adept manager.i sill recive error message from that to
[05:06] <jhutchins> Daller: So is this thing a usb printer connected via a parallel port adapter, or a parallel port printer connected via a USB adapter?
[05:06] <Daller> jhutchins: To start at the beginning, can I test if the virtual parallel-port has been setup correctly?
[05:06] <BluesKaj> knowledge25k:  is adept open open ?
[05:07] <knowledge25k> what do you mean
[05:07] <Daller> jhutchins: Parallel-printer connected to a usb-port (dimension c521 has no parallel port)
[05:07] <BluesKaj> knowledge25k:  if it is open close it ..then run in the konsole : sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:09] <knowledge25k> i still recive & error
[05:10] <Daller> knowledge25k: have you ran: "sudo apt-get -f install" ???
[05:11] <jhutchins> Daller: Ok, you're going to have to figure out what the USB subsystem should load when the adapter is connected and get that working then.
[05:11] <BluesKaj> ok, knowledge25k ,try this, : sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a , then relogin to the desktop
[05:11] <knowledge25k> yes it say command-not-found: error: no such option: -f
[05:11] <miles> wamp wamp
[05:11] <Daller> The weird thing is that I have a similar setup running on another dimension c521 at work... 7.04, same adapter, etc...
[05:12] <BluesKaj> I suspect that damn adept notifier is doing it's damage again
[05:12] <miles> synaptic > adept
[05:12] <Daller> knowledge25k: Try "sudo aptitude -f install"
[05:12] <knowledge25k> produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more'
[05:13] <BluesKaj> knowledge25k:  do you have synaptic ?
[05:13] <Daller> jhutchins: [20605.704000]  drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 18 if 0 alt 1 proto 2 vid 0x067B pid 0x2305
[05:13] <knowledge25k> yes
[05:14] <BluesKaj> open synaptic, edit/fix broken packages/apply
[05:14] <Daller> knowledge25k: Is it working now?
[05:15] <Daller> jhutchins_lt: [20605.704000]  drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 18 if 0 alt 1 proto 2 vid 0x067B pid 0x2305
[05:16] <Daller> jhutchins_lt: ...from dmesg, and lsusb: Bus 002 Device 018: ID 067b:2305 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port ... everything seems to work...
[05:17] <jhutchins_lt> Daller: Except cups.
[05:17] <jhutchins_lt> Try just setting it up as an lp.
[05:17] <knowledge25k> how do i know if it work or not?
[05:18] <Daller> knowledge25k: try installing something!
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> :0
[05:18] <Daller> jhutchins_lt: Wow... how do I do that?
[05:19] <Daller> jhutchins_lt: "LPD/LPR Host or Printer" ?
[05:20] <knowledge25k> texlive-lang-spanish: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:21] <pag> knowledge25k, that package is causing problems - I'd remove it.
[05:25] <Daller> jhutchins_lt: /dev/lp0 doesn't exist... isn't that bad?
[05:26] <knowledge25k> how do i rmove it
[05:27] <knowledge25k> i'm having problem removing it
[05:27] <PhinnFort> wtf isn't KDM configured properly by default in Kubuntu?
[05:27] <miles> I am running xubuntu, i just apt-got konqueror, does anyone know where it is located under the application window?
[05:27] <wilman> i have a quickcam communicate installed the drivers and some webcam programs but my computer just does'nt detect the webcam
[05:27] <pag> knowledge25k, try: sudo dpkg -R texlive-lang-spanish
[05:27] <wilman> what to do?
[05:27] <PhinnFort> if you set the right boot manager in KControl, KDM can enable you to select which OS to boot on next reboot
[05:28] <pag> PhinnFort, good point - I think #kubuntu-devel is better place to ask though
[05:28] <Daller> jhutchins_lt: /dev/usblp0 is present! - should i create a symlink? sudo ln -s /dev/usblp0 /dev/lp0
[05:30] <knowledge25k> i recive this. produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !ecive
[05:33] <knowledge25k> i Receive:Options marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[05:33] <Daller> jhutchins_lt: If you have any input, please post at the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512628
[05:34] <lewix> hi
[05:34] <BluesKaj> PhinnFort: it should be in the kicker/internet
[05:34] <pag> knowledge25k, ok... try sudo dpkg -r texlive-lang-spanish   instead
[05:34] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: ?
[05:35] <BluesKaj> NM PhinnFort , i misinterpreted
[05:35] <PhinnFort> ah, ok;)
[05:36] <genii> Back
[05:36] <genii> Did Daller get anywhere with the HP printer?
[05:36] <knowledge25k> nothing
[05:37] <boris_> where can i set that 2 click are required to start application ?
[05:37] <boris_> clicks*
[05:37] <pag> boris_, kcontrol -> peripherals -> mouse
[05:37] <_4str1> hi : i have GPG error: http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com feisty Release ...
[05:37] <BluesKaj> genii: no he left this message: If you have any input, please post at the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512628
[05:37] <_4str1> where can i find tghis key ?
[05:38] <boris_> aha thank you
[05:38] <genii> BluesKaj: OK, thx
[05:38] <boris_> its little different because im using dapper but i found it
[05:39] <knowledge25k> how do i know if it is remove or not
[05:40] <BluesKaj> genii:  strange prob, i couldn't find any linux drivers at HP , but he had it working on a different kubuntu 7.04 box.
[05:40] <pag> knowledge25k, apt-cache policy texlive-lang-spanish
[05:40] <genii> BluesKaj: Almost all HP will work with just a generic Postscript driver
[05:41] <BluesKaj> yeah, mine does , but it's behind cups so , it's getting windows type messages
[05:41] <miles> bill gates is teh uber no0b hax0r
[05:42] <BluesKaj> genii:  or at least that's the way i unerstand cups works
[05:42] <boris_> how can i stop konqueror showing those yellow squares when i press ctrl ?
[05:42] <BluesKaj> my HP printer is hooked to windows pc on our lil network
[05:43] <knowledge25k> texlive-lang-spanish:
[05:43] <knowledge25k>   Installed: (none)
[05:43] <knowledge25k>   Candidate: 2005.dfsg.2-5
[05:43] <knowledge25k>   Version table:
[05:43] <knowledge25k>      2005.dfsg.2-5 0
[05:43] <knowledge25k>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages
[05:43] <knowledge25k>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[05:43] <runlevelten> !pastebin
[05:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:43] <pag> knowledge25k, ok.. now everything should work
[05:43] <boris_> how can i stop konqueror showing those yellow squares when i press ctrl ?
[05:44] <genii> BluesKaj: Mostly I have TCP type HP printers so I just tell cups IPP printing, raw Postscript
[05:44] <knowledge25k> now wat should i try
[05:45] <knowledge25k> to see if it is working
[05:45] <philo23> hey guys, i'm trying to access CUPS, i try to click on add new printer, and it simply says i'm not authorised, no login dialog pops up. any ideas?
[05:45] <BluesKaj> genii:  wonder if he has the TCP option ..keeps talking parallel thru USB converter
[05:46] <pag> boris_, it might be in accesibility options, I'm not sure though
[05:47] <genii> BluesKaj: I actually have one of those, it lets you plug in a parallel-port printer to a USB port
[05:47] <boris_> there is one command i have to type in Run Command
[05:47] <knowledge25k> my beryl won't work
[05:47] <boris_> some1 told me what i have to type in before but i had to reinstall system and i forgot it
[05:47] <estoesderisa> !sound
[05:47] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:48] <boris_> !kde commands
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde commands - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <boris_> !konqueror
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <pag> boris_, kwriteconfig --file khtmlrc --group "Access Keys" --key Enabled --type bool false
[05:48] <boris_> ????
[05:48] <boris_> i got dapper
[05:49] <BluesKaj> genii:  my HP 3520 runs off a USB hub on wife's pc ...wonder if Daller has the USB direct option
[05:49] <knowledge25k> can anybody tell me why my beryl won't work?
[05:50] <pag> boris_, well that's the command they tell to do @ http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hidden%20configuration#_Disable_the_accessibil
[05:50] <BluesKaj> !beryl | knowledge25k
[05:50] <ubotu> knowledge25k: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:51] <genii> BluesKaj: It occurs to me that perhaps he has the same printer plugged in by usb-usb to one computer then by usb-parallel adapter on the second computer
[05:51] <knowledge25k> what is that mean for me
[05:52] <BluesKaj> genii: he has hooked up directly to his new pc , the old one is being taken out
[05:52] <BluesKaj> yes knowledge25k
[05:54] <boris_> ty pag i did it
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Dang it. My Nero 7 quit working on my windows box.. Anyone know a easy/fast way to convert a .avi to a dvd with linux? :)
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> got a single avi file the wife wants on a dvd.  and of course she wants it NOW....
[05:56] <grizm> sudo set volume wife 0
[05:57] <BluesKaj> Dr_Willis:  fast ? aint no such animal , devede might..prefer tovid tho
[05:57] <llutz> Dr_Willis: avidemux
[05:57] <BluesKaj> or ya could do nerolinux
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> i dident think nerolinux did the dvd/video conversions yet.
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> one of these days i got to get a dvd player for the wife that can play avi/divx files
[05:59] <genii> Dr_Willis: I'm still waiting for the standalone that can do OGG
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> avidemux can convert from avi to 'dvd''s  disk filelayout?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> Hmmm...
[05:59] <genii> I dunno if mediacoder come for linux
[06:00] <knowledge25k> yes what
[06:00] <me_> hi can anyone help me pls. got everytimes the same error if i try to mount my dvd device: mount: special device /dev/hda does not exist
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> me_:  you srure the dvd  is /dev/hda ?
[06:01] <Ace2016> it won't be hda will it?
[06:01] <Ace2016> ls /dev/hd*
[06:01] <me_> dr_willis: no i am not but in windows its the first ide slot
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> If he has his dvd disk in the first ide cable. first slot..it could be.
[06:01] <Ace2016> and see what drives that shows
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> i normally  use /dev/dvd  :)
[06:01] <Dr_Willis>  ls -l /dev/dvd
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> see whats there
[06:01] <me_> ls: /dev/hd*: No such file or directory
[06:02] <me_> ls: /dev/dvd: No such file or directory
[06:02] <Zee1ot> hi, can someone help me with using my canon powershot sd1000 camera on feisty? it doesnt seem to detect anything
[06:02] <philo23> hey guys, my CUPS seems to acting badly, any one got any ideas, it doesnt prompt me for a login when i try to administer it online then failing saying i need to login. thanks
[06:02] <genii> must be more like /dev/sdX then
[06:02] <Ace2016> would an sata cdrom drive show up as sd
[06:02] <Ace2016> ls /dev/sd*
[06:03] <morphir> devel?
[06:03] <llutz> Ace2016: cdrom would be /dev/scdX
[06:03] <me_>  /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sda5
[06:03] <morphir> is this the devel channel for kubuntu?
[06:03] <me_> but thats my harddisk
[06:04] <Ace2016> ls /dev/scd* ??
[06:04] <genii> morphir: No, it's the general channel
[06:04] <aaron_> does anyone know where I coudl find some drivers for an Arheros AT5007EG network card
[06:04] <morphir> #kubuntu-devel
[06:04] <morphir> genii :)
[06:04] <Linux_Noob> I am facing problem with system>pref>desktop effectrs there seem one massage that says composite extension is not available
[06:05] <knowledge25k> i'm still receive error
[06:05] <me_> aaron_: i got the same prob. let me know if u've fixed it
[06:05] <me_> ls: /dev/scd*: No such file or directory
[06:05] <aaron_> i have searched for few days now with little to no luck
[06:05] <Linux_Noob> well I tried everything in the forum and I have downloded Envy but nothing happened
[06:06] <arun> Hey everyone
[06:06] <Ace2016> Linux_Noob: are you trying to install the nvidia driver?
[06:06] <Linux_Noob> no I own an Ati x1600 card
[06:06] <Linux_Noob> any idea
[06:06] <me_> aaron_: i have to fix some other probs. try it later again. have u got a icq number or something like that. maybe we can tell each other if something solved the prob.
[06:07] <arun> people still use ICQ?
[06:07] <cloakable> Yes
[06:07] <me_> ^^ i also have jabber
[06:07] <Linux_Noob> well I have not got an icq but give me yours and I am going to add your number
[06:07] <aaron_> hmm i dont
[06:07] <Ace2016> Linux_Noob: well: Alt+F2 > kdesu kwrite, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if this is there
[06:07] <Ace2016> Section "Extensions"
[06:07] <Ace2016>         Option "Composite" "Enable"
[06:07] <Ace2016> EndSection
[06:08] <Linux_Noob> ok lets try this
[06:08] <aaron_> does beryl work woth a ati x1200?
[06:09] <me_> ace2016:  ls: /dev/scd*: No such file or directory
[06:09] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Anyone know how to add Yahoo to your Konqueror search box?
[06:09] <Ace2016> me_: strange, does /media/ show it?
[06:09] <arun> I have four logical drives on my computer. One contains my Windows installation (40 GB, I run a dual boot), one NTFS formatted partition (40 GB), one FAT32 formatted partition (30 GB), and my Kubuntu partition (51 GB)
[06:09] <me_> ace2016: just the empty folder
[06:10] <acemo> in what place does kubuntu installs the php executable?
[06:10] <arun> If I want to remove the NTFS partition and extend my Kubuntu partition to 90GB, how do i do that?
[06:10] <pag> WhtWolfTeraDyne, the same way you add any other search?
[06:10] <arun> acemo: what php executable
[06:10] <Ace2016> acemo: in konqueror type apt:/ search for php and look at the file lyst
[06:10] <acemo> arun: trying to get ktorrents webgui to work and it says this "Php executable isn't in default path, please enter the path manually"
[06:10] <vge> or "which php" in command line
[06:10] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> pag: Ok. Now if I can figure out how to add to it...
[06:11] <Ace2016> oh didn't someone ask about php and ktorrent yesterday?
[06:11] <BluesKaj> llutz:  I never had much luck with avidemux, have you?
[06:11] <llutz> BluesKaj: sure
[06:11] <knowledge25k> i need help whit my error message
[06:11] <pag> WhtWolfTeraDyne, you have a link to that search? (I'm too lazy to google it up)
[06:11] <BluesKaj> avi to dvd/
[06:12] <acemo> Ace2016: wasnt me.. do u perhaps know how he solved it, or does this channel gets logged somewhere? =)
[06:12] <llutz> BluesKaj: converting avi to mpeg2, then giving them to dvdauthor and burn with growisofs
[06:12] <pag> WhtWolfTeraDyne, http://search.yahoo.com/web <- that one?
[06:12] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> yeah. I think so.
[06:12] <knowledge25k> help me whit my tv card
[06:13] <me_> ace2016: so u havent any more ideas to help me?
[06:13] <angasule> hello, is there an alternative KDE package manager? Adept is a bit too buggy for us, and we're giving a linux course in mid-august, synaptic has too many extra deps
[06:13] <BluesKaj> llutz:  interesting , that's sort of like tovid in the cli version
[06:13] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Ah, found something in the docs. http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/konqueror/enhanced-browsing.html
[06:13] <aaron_> anyone get an atheros AT5007EG network card to work wireless yet?
[06:14] <knowledge25k> my tv time won't work
[06:14] <pag> WhtWolfTeraDyne, yup. thats the one. 7th paragraph is what you need
[06:14] <dec_> hello i am trying to add packages using adept and when it opens it tells me i don'
[06:14] <Ace2016> http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9778&sid=8eea2218edc1f6c3ea05f1904d061602
[06:14] <seth> angasule: kpackage
[06:14] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> thanks pag.
[06:14] <dec_> sorry don't have privileges to add packages
[06:14] <Ace2016> angasule: try synaptic, but its gtk based, but its very good, run it with kdesu synaptic
[06:14] <acemo> Ace2016: thanks
[06:15] <arun> can anyone help with my partitioning questions?
[06:15] <dec_> hello i am trying to add packages using adept and when it opens it tells me i don't have root privileges
[06:15] <pag> dec_, kdesu adept_manager  <- try typing that in run dialog ( alt+f2 )
[06:15] <angasule> Ace2016: I said a *kde* package manager and specifically mentioned why synaptic is *not* an option
[06:15] <angasule> seth: thanks, downloading it now :)
[06:16] <BluesKaj> dec use the password you used to loginto kubuntu
[06:17] <aaron_> anyone get an atheros AT5007EG network card to work wireless yet?
[06:17] <knowledge25k> cccan somebody help me with my tv time
[06:17] <dec_> i just tried it and it works thank you
[06:18] <knowledge25k> my tv time won't work .help me please
[06:18] <seth> knowledge25k, please stop spamming the channel. You have asked 4 times in the last 6 minutes... that's too often
[06:18] <seth> if someone knows, they'll help you
[06:19] <knowledge25k> sorry
[06:19] <Ace2016> me_: no idea, it should show up in /dev/ somewhere as dvd* or  hd* scd* or something like that
[06:21] <aaron_> is it possible to use slingbox with ubuntu?
[06:21] <BluesKaj> knowledge25k:  you really should do some research by yourself ..tvtime works with different graphics cards ..we don't know what your problem is until you tell us what it won't do...not just that it doesn't work'
[06:21] <me_> ace2016: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/13269/
[06:22] <knowledge25k> it won't let me view my chanel
[06:22] <arun> I have four logical drives on my computer. One contains my Windows installation (40 GB, I run a dual boot), one NTFS formatted partition (40 GB), one FAT32 formatted partition (30 GB), and my Kubuntu partition (51 GB). If I want to delete the NTFS partition and extend my existing Kubuntu partition to 90 GB how do I go about it? How risky is it?
[06:23] <BluesKaj> arun: use GParted Live CD ..it works well ..a bit slow but it does the job
[06:24] <BluesKaj> bnearun be prepared to be without your pc for about 3-4 hrs
[06:24] <arun> BluesKaj: why Live CD?
[06:24] <seth> arun, because you can't modify partitions while you're using them ;)
[06:24] <arun> ahh
[06:24] <BluesKaj> kinda hard to partition when yer running on it
[06:24] <vge> arun: pmagic is so magic that it does it if i dont remember it wrong :)
[06:25] <under2x> the kubuntu cd has gparted, no?
[06:25] <arun> will GParted Live CD work well? is it very risky?
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> vge:  last i used PartionMagic. it was a lve cd also..
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> vge:  or it rebooted to dosmode and ran. :)
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> but that was YEARS ago
[06:25] <seth> PMagic can do some operations live if you're using NTFS
[06:25] <BluesKaj> arun: it's the best there is
[06:25] <under2x> arun: its pretty stable these days
[06:25] <seth> but for some, it still reboots to DOS mode
[06:25] <vge> Dr_Willis: ow? ye, i used it years ago also ^
[06:25] <aaron_> i think anytime you mess with partitions its riskey
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> Now a days I use qt/gparted :)
[06:25] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> arun: I like the GParted liveCD. Very useful part of my toolbox.
[06:26] <BluesKaj> seth partiton magic is dangerous and unstable
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> There is athat Systemrescue live cd - that has the parted tools + other cool tools for ya rescue needs.
[06:26] <seth> BluesKaj, no more than any partition editor is eh
[06:26] <arun> aaron_: will the data on my kubuntu partition be deleted? as in, are there chances of that happening? i don't know how ext3 works, because with ntfs, you need to defrag the drive before you partition to make sure the data is safe
[06:27] <BluesKaj> no seth, it's worse
[06:27] <seth> used it and gparted for years, never had any issues with either
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> it really SUCKS when you are resizeing a disk and the power goes out. :)
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> thats teh only time i had issues.
[06:27] <under2x> arun: you don't need to defrag anymore with parted
[06:27] <arun> under2x: alright, thanks
[06:27] <BluesKaj> a lotta ppl are very sorry they ever heard of partition magic, seth , beleive me
[06:28] <seth> ymmv I guess, BluesKaj
[06:28] <BluesKaj> err believe
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> gotta love giving a user that cant understand that C: and D: are 2 parttions on the hard drive.. (vs 2 drives) a  Powerfull tool..  that they just dont understand..
[06:28] <BluesKaj> including me , seth
[06:29] <genii> Dr_Willis: or that hda2 hda3   etc are all the same hd as well :)
[06:29] <arun> is GParted Live CD a GUI?
[06:29] <arun> does it have a gui i mean
[06:29] <jhutchins_lt> arun: Can you not work without a GUI?
[06:29] <Ace2016> isn't it qtparted?
[06:30] <under2x> arun: gparted is on the ubuntu cd
[06:30] <pag> arun, iirc it runs fluxbox ?
[06:30] <arun> cool
[06:30] <vge> jhutchins_lt: muahah, somehow i saw that coming :)
[06:30] <Ace2016> on the kubuntu cd its qtparted
[06:30] <under2x> arun: just make sure you backup any important data, :)
[06:30] <arun> just found the gparted livecd site.. looking at screenshots
[06:30] <arun> under2x: can i just move the data to a partition i'm not planning to touch?
[06:31] <jhutchins_lt> It is nice to at least have a menu instead of having to guess commands.
[06:31] <under2x> arun: backups are serious business http://backups.ytmnd.com/
[06:32] <Ace2016> copy don't move
[06:32] <arun> under2x: if i copy the data to the fat32 partition (that i'm not planning to modify), then it should be safe, right?
[06:33] <under2x> arun: as long as you don't blow away that partition< :)
[06:33] <jhutchins_lt> arun: As long as nothing goes wrong.
[06:33] <arun> under2x: well, i'm not planning to modify it in any way
[06:33] <Ace2016> arun: it will be safe if its on another disk which is unplugged :D
[06:34] <llutz> arun: unplanned things may happen
[06:34] <jhutchins_lt> arun: You are modifying the partition table for that disk.
[06:34] <Ace2016> otherwise if the entire parition table gets messed up its going to be hard to fix
[06:34] <arun> now i'm scared
[06:34] <llutz> you should be :)
[06:34] <jhutchins_lt> arun: Good.  Make backups.
[06:34] <arun> i was planning to get a external hard drive for backups, but it's going to have to wait for a month
[06:34] <under2x> yeah do you have a cd burner?
[06:34] <under2x> burn some cd backups
[06:35] <jhutchins_lt> arun: You don't have to backup software you have sources for, just your own data.
[06:36] <arun> jhutchins_It: i have a lot of data :)
[06:36] <Ace2016> raid1 ftw
[06:36] <llutz> arun: if you don't have a backup, your data isn't important
[06:37] <Ace2016> why would anyone keep data if its not important, just delete it
[06:37] <llutz> that's a modern miracle
[06:38] <vge> i tought everyone had cron jobs to delete unused files after 2 days?
[06:38] <cloakable> Heh
[06:38] <Ace2016> its all about running out of space and getting a bigger drive, no one ever thinks about just deleting junk
[06:38] <arun> yeah, i know.. i should back up. i used to have cds of backups lying all over the place, back when i had a 40gb hard drive. i recently got a new computer a few months ago, so i moved all my data to this hard drive. been planning to get an external drive to store stuff i dont use on a daily basis and to back up important stuff, but it will have to wait for another month. i guess i'll repartition then.
[06:39] <arun> thanks for the help, people. i'll give gparted a shot, and try not to hose anything
[06:39] <genii> Ace2016: There are some ppl today that collect and store all their old data no matter how useless like how some others are obsessive collectors of things like string or rubber bands.
[06:39] <jhutchins_lt> arun: Seriously, not a bad idea to burn stuff to CD or DVD.
[06:39] <jhutchins_lt> arun: I'd make a DVD burner higher priority than that external drive.
[06:40] <arun> i have a dvd burner already
[06:40] <llutz> jhutchins_lt: ^^ only if you're sure about the quality of media/burner/burn which is in most cases poor
[06:40] <arun> but i figure if i'm going to get an external drive anyway, why burn on dvd and then copy to the external drive again?
[06:41] <Ace2016> i have a collection of anime, all 220 episodes of naruto :D thats important
[06:41] <Daisuke_Ido> "most"?  some peer-reviewed research on that please?
[06:41] <Daisuke_Ido> even mid-grade media will last a long time if properly stored
[06:41] <jhutchins_lt> llutz: It's possible for something to go wrong with any medium, but DVD is at least a passive medium - unlikely to have a total failure.
[06:41] <arun> Ace2016: I have all the episodes of He-Man and the Masters of the Universe :)
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> arun: you're proud of that? :)
[06:42] <jhutchins_lt> llutz: You can be fairly certain that if a DVD is good immediately after it's burned it will still be good for several years.
[06:42] <arun> yup, i love heman
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> i can't say anything, full saved by the bell collection -_-
[06:42] <arun> i used to watch it religiously on tv when i was a kid
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> and transformers (original series, thankyouverymuch)
[06:42] <llutz> Daisuke_Ido: german magazine "c't" makes continous test about burner/media-combinations and the results are awfull. if you see people going to a shop, buying the cheapest media they can get and have those tests in mind, you won#t trust their data
[06:43] <Ace2016> arun: how many episodes s that?
[06:43] <arun> 23 GB worth
[06:43] <jhutchins_lt> arun: So 5 - 10 DVD's.
[06:44] <arun> haha yeah
[06:44] <arun> It's 130 episodes + extras
[06:44] <Daisuke_Ido> llutz: that's not peer-reviewed, it's likely paid for by the distributors of high dollar media - the simple fact is that there aren't THAT many media manufacturers, and besides, i don't need to trust THEIR data, i need to trust MY data.
[06:44] <Ace2016> oh mine are only 16GB all the anime is about 40GB
[06:45] <BluesKaj> cartoons ....geez
[06:45] <Daisuke_Ido> i know i've never lost data from a successful burn, going back to 2000
[06:46] <Ace2016> cartoons are great
[06:46] <arun> according to wikipedia, generally, cds and dvds are reliable for only upto two years
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> now, i DO see what you're saying.  there's extra-cheap media that's prone to peeling, and that's a problem :)
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> arun: according to wikipedia, living people are dead.
[06:46] <arun> haha
[06:46] <jhutchins_lt> I have seen burners that routinely made CD's that couldn't be read by other drives, but you can test that, if you know it's happening you know to replace the burner.
[06:47] <BluesKaj> hmmm, interesting ...I have cds burned in 1998 that are still sounding fine
[06:47] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: Yeah, if they're good, they're good, usually for a long time.
[06:47] <BluesKaj> and they've been in my car in the heat and cold
[06:48] <Silent_G> hello, which is the microphone? /dev/dsp or /dev/audio? cause Amsn told me to choose from those 2
[06:48] <Silent_G> :S
[06:48] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: There is a limit to their theoretical stability, but you aren't necessarily going to see that.
[06:48] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: That said, I'd make copies of anything approaching 10 years old.
[06:48] <Daisuke_Ido> Silent_G: try em both :D
[06:48] <MarcC> how do I mount a samba share?
[06:48] <Silent_G> i made Audo: /dev/dsp and Microphone: /dev/dsp
[06:49] <Silent_G> is it still good like that?
[06:49] <BluesKaj> yeah , I have "house" copies of my fav stuff , for sure :)
[06:49] <Silent_G> or audio and microphone must have a different device?
[06:49] <Silent_G> O_o
[06:50] <pag> Silent_G, why? they're connected to same device (sound card)
[06:50] <Daisuke_Ido> Silent_G: experiment :)
[06:50] <Silent_G> oh ok i understan
[06:50] <jhutchins_lt> MarcC: sudo mount -t smbfs //server/share /mount/point -o username=<user>,password=<password>,fmask=777,dmask=777
[06:50] <Silent_G> both /dev/dsp and /dev/audio worked good so i chose /dev/dsp
[06:50] <Silent_G> :S
[06:51] <jhutchins_lt> Silent_G: Yeah, try one, if it doesn't work, try the other.
[06:51] <MarcC> thanks jhutchins_lt - is that permanent, or do I need to make an fstab entry?
[06:51] <Silent_G> aight
[06:51] <Silent_G> :p
[06:51] <aaron_> anyone get an atheros AT5007EG network card to work wireless yet?
[06:51] <jhutchins_lt> MarcC: That's temporary, you can create an fstab entry.
[06:51] <MarcC> thanks jhutchins_lt
[06:52] <jhutchins_lt> !samba | MarcC
[06:52] <ubotu> MarcC: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:52] <angasule> !aptitude
[06:52] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[06:53] <genii> bah, work. AFK
[06:58] <fyrmedic> How do I get apt-get to stop holding back packages?
[06:58] <pag> fyrmedic, be more specific