[12:00] <zeromod> ok im out of here. thanks again for the backup help gentlemen
[12:00] <punkrockguy318> is the sound broken in dapper?
[12:00] <flannel> but i am stuck in the least newb friendly environment ever lol
[12:00] <mwe> flannel: you probably gotta reconfigure xwindows
[12:00] <cafuego> _Saif_: That says: "If pppd is not executable, or if /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot is not a file, then exit".
[12:01] <flannel> how do I do that...  I thought this was supposed to be newb friendly
[12:01] <mwe> flannel: maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and fill in _correct_ info
[12:01] <flannel> yikes...
[12:01] <_Saif_> ok tell me fianlly what command i should try on terminal
[12:01] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: no, it works fine, why?
[12:01] <cafuego> _Saif_: " if /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot is not a file, then exit" -> Delete that file, so the script would exit.
[12:02] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, hmm, it's broken for me.. I installed kubuntu-desktop and removed it, and now my sound is broken
[12:02] <flannel> dont want to really ditch this but I was told by several people that this distro "just works"
[12:02] <_Saif_> Ok
[12:02] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: removing that metapackage wouldn't affect sound at all.
[12:02] <_Saif_> let me check
[12:02] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: cat /proc/asound/cards  --> pastebin
[12:02] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, no, i removed it all togehter
[12:02] <flannel> and it is giving me a headache :(
[12:03] <tech9iner> simple ?buntu taster here matesNlassies..
[12:03] <navarone> flannel what is the problem you are having?
[12:03] <punkrockguy318> 0 [Live           ] : EMU10K1 - SB Live 5.1           SB Live 5.1 (rev.7, serial:0x80641102) at 0xdf80, irq 177
[12:03] <butcherbird> flannel: you can pretty much just enter through defaults during reconfigure
[12:03] <ateves> hi! is there a way to start a normal software as a process?
[12:03] <ateves> via shell
[12:03] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: ``amixer''  --> pastebin
[12:03] <flannel> I have finally managed to get into ubuntu but have no gui at all
[12:03] <mwe> ateves: just run it
[12:03] <_Saif_> theres a file name " pppoe_on_boot
[12:04] <tech9iner> realizing im loading up off ubuntu 5.0.4.. which is default gnome environment..
[12:04] <cafuego> _Saif_: Check if that is referenced anywhere in /etc/init.d/ and then read the script that uses it.
[12:04] <flannel> butcherbird, how do I reconfigure....  mwe said a command but there were blanks :(
[12:04] <nikol> the neccesery utils,libs,etc ???
[12:04] <tech9iner> can one convert ubuntu to kubuntu via synaptic with apropos sources/repositories perchance please?
[12:04] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/498502
[12:04] <brl4n> After booting with the LiveCD version AMD64 my monitor shows nothing.  I'm assuming that it can't display the resolution so I checked off everything but 800x600.    Any suggestions?  I have an ATI All-in-wonder 600x
[12:04] <mwe> flannel: ?
[12:04] <butcherbird> flannel: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[12:05] <cafuego> tech9iner: Normal repos, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.
[12:05] <flannel> maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and fill in _correct_ info
[12:05] <mwe> butcherbird: xserver-xorg, isn't it
[12:05] <flannel> the fill in correct info got me mwe ... sorry :(
[12:05] <navarone> tech9iner, you can install kubuntu-desktop to get kubuntu on ubuntu...then you chose kde at log-in session
[12:05] <sorush20> mwe there is nothin mentioned about a floppy on this page at all .. bad link in ubotu
[12:05] <cafuego> Ooh, new usplash?
[12:05] <butcherbird> mwe: probably not on ubuntu right now
[12:05] <_Saif_> init.d , in this folder theres a file named , PPP
[12:05] <mwe> sorush20: it's the same procudure
[12:05] <Manifold> Ach.
[12:06] <flannel> butcherbird: u sure that'll work if i run it once I log in?
[12:06] <TTilus> I have "johanna     tavi = (mythtv) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/mythfrontend" in sudoers but "sudo -u mythtv /usr/bin/mythfrontend" still asks password for johanna
[12:06] <sorush20> mwe not the same procedure..
[12:06] <mwe> sorush20: sudo mkdir -p /media/floppy && sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy, probably
[12:06] <cafuego> _Saif_: What does /etc/init.d/ppp say about pppoe_on_boot?
[12:06] <mwe> sorush20: indeed
[12:06] <butcherbird> flannel: abolutely 20% sure
[12:06] <_Saif_> so what do you think, should i delete that pppoe boot file or this one
[12:06] <flannel> lmao
[12:06] <Mx16> Ok so sorry, it says "Unable to start X Server (your graphical interface) blah blah and what do I do???
[12:06] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: your PCM is set very slow, and you need to mute 'IEC958 Optical Raw'
[12:06] <flannel> is that a jk or truth
[12:07] <butcherbird> flannel: mostly joke
[12:07] <flannel> hehe
[12:07] <butcherbird> flannel: should work
[12:07] <flannel> will go try now...
[12:07] <brl4n> help! help!
[12:07] <_Saif_> it says about ppoe_on_boot
[12:07] <brl4n> hee
[12:07] <_Saif_> i can show you the script on your private
[12:07] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[12:07] <slew> !java
[12:07] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:07] <Mx16> someone said I need to type "sudo dexconf"??
[12:07] <sorush20> mew there is not need to cread a floppy dr any where since it is alredy there and also there is no need to format your floppy if you are try to view the files on a floppy
[12:07] <cafuego> _Saif_: Use the pastebin
[12:07] <cafuego> !paste
[12:07] <ubotu> methinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:07] <brl4n> !ATI
[12:07] <ubotu> from memory, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[12:07] <wogi> Question: Is there a way to undo your last apt-get install? A package had a lot of dependancies, and didn't install properly anyhow, and it added a bunch of stuff like slapd and mailman and exim, and I just kind of want to go back to the previous state. If I apt-get remove gforge (the package), it doesn't free up nearly as much space as it took, so I guess its not removing all of its dependancies?
[12:08] <_Saif_> cafuego, i'm in flood
[12:08] <thick-glasses> is anyone running the latest ati driver with breezy?
[12:08] <sorush20> mew there is also no mention of vfat
[12:08] <Ng> wogi: unfortunately, not really
[12:08] <mwe> wogi: sudo debfoster. install it if you haven't got it
[12:08] <sorush20> how do I find out what is the file system of a floppy?
[12:08] <bryanf> does anyone know why /dev/rtc would be missing on dapper?
[12:08] <brl4n> sweet
[12:08] <mwe> wogi: it will ask a lot the first time you run it though
[12:09] <wogi> mwe: mkay :)
[12:09] <crimsun> bryanf: because the module isn't loaded?
[12:09] <bryanf> crimsun: what module?
[12:09] <mwe> wogi: go with defaults with anything you're unsure about
[12:09] <crimsun> bryanf: rtc
[12:09] <tech9iner> g r e a t
[12:09] <bryanf> crimsun: sudo modprobe rtc
[12:09] <bryanf> FATAL: Module rtc not found.
[12:10] <crimsun> bryanf: uname -r
[12:10] <Mx16> it says "Unable to start X Server (your graphical interface) blah blah and what do I do
[12:10] <bryanf> crimsun: 2.6.15-11-powerpc
[12:10] <tech9iner> just finished installing off 5.0.4 cd and messed up username / password.. and now realizing wasnt offered opportunity to assign root password was i mates?
[12:10] <mwe> Mx16: yeah reconfigure it
[12:10] <wogi> mwe: uh oh..Now any apt-get install or remove I do gives me a list of errors in regards to gforge related packages, and is returning an error code..
[12:10] <bryanf> tech9iner: no, ubuntu doesn't use root
[12:10] <mwe> Mx16: probably sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and fill in _correct_ info
[12:10] <crimsun> bryanf: you probably don't have a kernel/drivers/char/rtc.ko
[12:10] <tech9iner> at all bryanf ?
[12:10] <cOff3ebuZz> hello. How do you start the networking interface so that eth0 can get an IP from the dhcp server?
[12:10] <KillerKiwi2005> i've installed the simias ifolder server how to i start it as a serivce ?
[12:10] <bryanf> tech9iner: you use sudo to do all root stuff
[12:11] <cOff3ebuZz> /etc/init.d/networking ?
[12:11] <mwe> wogi: pastebin the errors
[12:11] <bryanf> crimsun: nope
[12:11] <Mx16> do i type that when i log in?
[12:11] <wogi> mwe: but its telling me a bunch of stuff, so let me read a bit first..
[12:11] <trappist> bryanf: try genrtc
[12:11] <tech9iner> so any pointers mates on howto fix typo'ed username password on 1st unbuntu install please?
[12:11] <bryanf> trappist: awesome
[12:11] <Mx16> becuase i can't even start it and it;s just my username and password and it says welcome to Ubuntu
[12:12] <wogi> mew: 9 not fully installed or removed.
[12:12] <mwe> Mx16: yeah
[12:12] <wogi> mwe: thats the jist of it.
[12:12] <tech9iner> so way bryanf to use sudo access to users to reset password maybe?.. failsafe ?
[12:12] <mwe> Mx16: type if after login at the console
[12:12] <Mx16> ok thanks I'll try it
[12:12] <bryanf> tech9iner: huh?
[12:12] <brl4n> linux is too much trouble for what it is worth....ugg.
[12:13] <Pygi> brl4n: lol
[12:13] <mwe> wogi: I'd try sudo apt-get -f
[12:13] <Pygi> linux is no trouble at all
[12:13] <Pygi> windows is the trouble
[12:13] <tech9iner> at very 1st ever login upon 1st completed ubuntu install.. i obviously typoed the installs username and/or password during install
[12:13] <brl4n> i've never been able to install a working system.
[12:13] <bryanf> trappist: now, if I can just get X to draw progress bars correctly
[12:13] <brl4n> always graphics problems
[12:13] <Pygi> brl4n: well, get a friend to install it for you at first time
[12:13] <Pygi> then you'll learn
[12:13] <Pygi> brl4n: no graphics problem at all
[12:13] <Pygi> brl4n: you or your friend just needs to know *tm*
[12:14] <brl4n> well I have wireless so I can't get drivers.
[12:14] <Pygi> brl4n: drivers for what? wireless? oh, you surely can
[12:14] <KillerKiwi2005> how do i start something as a service?
[12:14] <mwe> brl4n: ndiswrapper solves that in most cases
[12:14] <nikol> i have p4 2.4 i must download the package for the powerpc or for i386?
[12:14] <Cintia> how to configure the samba as client?
[12:14] <gauros> can i have some help with ubuntu
[12:14] <tech9iner> brl4n: hmm.. sad guv.. i buggered me password during installation's username configs.. but ubuntu 5.0.4 cd installed like a breeze on this antique panasonic toughbook.. Pll 366 w just 128ram..
[12:14] <Aven> how do I open the 113 port?
[12:15] <mwe> nikol: if you don't have a mac don't get the ppc
[12:15] <tech9iner> so mates..
[12:15] <gauros> how do i log in as root
[12:15] <brl4n> yeah but how am I supposed to get the drivers if I can't get on the internet?  The liveCD doesn't work so i'm pretty stuck
[12:15] <Pygi> brl4n: well, make the friend download it for u :P
[12:15] <Aven> ubotu tell gauros about root
[12:15] <Pygi> ubotu tell gauros about root
[12:15] <Pygi> :/
[12:15] <Aven> :P
[12:16] <gauros> well i justed installed ubuntu
[12:16] <gauros> and i am trying to mate a folder /var/bin
[12:16] <Pygi> gauros: ubotu just told u
[12:16] <brl4n> i find it funny that you need another computer to install.
[12:16] <gauros> but it does not let me
[12:16] <Aven> use sudo
[12:16] <mwe> brl4n: of course the live cd works. i'd say this is probably a typical PEBKAC
[12:16] <brl4n> PEBKAC?
[12:16] <Pygi> brl4n: I find it funny that you are even considering linux if you don't want to activate "grey matter" (TM)
[12:16] <Aven> the url that ubotu give ya explains everything :D
[12:16] <Stormx2> What packages do I need for the "svn" command?
[12:16] <TTilus> gauros: why do you want to create that?
[12:16] <tech9iner> any ref url's for fugdeupps like yours truly please.. 1st ubuntu installed with typoed username / password during install.. cant login..
[12:16] <gauros> well i need it for my dreambox
[12:16] <Pygi> brl4n: come out of Windows philosophy....this is Linux :P
[12:16] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, i muted the optical raw and brought up pcm, still no sound.. any ideas?
[12:16] <tech9iner> tiniest of clues appreciated muchly mates.. thanks
[12:17] <navarone> tech9iner, I take it you are not on ubuntu now?
[12:17] <brl4n> pygi:yeah i know.  every time I attempt it doesn't work.  I've given up on it
[12:17] <Stormx2> I've tried installing libsvn0 but that seems to have done absolutely nothing,
[12:17] <gauros> TTilus:how can i do it
[12:17] <mwe> brl4n: just go back to windows then
[12:17] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: mute 'Sigmatel Surround Phase Inversion Playback '
[12:17] <Pygi> brl4n: huh :/
[12:17] <brl4n> mwe:blah
[12:17] <tech9iner> navarone: aye.. spot on chum.. u install is on lappy side my suse10 main workstation.. ;]
[12:17] <mwe> brl4n: you said you've given up
[12:18] <Pygi> mwe: we are here to help, but we can't help someone who doesn't want help :P
[12:18] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: possibly 'Sigmatel Surround', too
[12:18] <TTilus> gauros: have you checked if dreambox is available as .deb package?
[12:18] <Pygi> brl4n: we are here to help, but we can't help someone who doesn't want help :P
[12:18] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: and have you adjusted the Headphones* elements?
[12:18] <TTilus> gauros: always first check that
[12:18] <brl4n> OK.  maybe I'll try on my other system.  thanks
[12:18] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, no, where should they be?
[12:18] <ketaset> launching gnome applications is really slow on a new install - everything else seems fine, just launching new apps - e.g. calculator takes 6 secs to load, anyone know what might cause this?
[12:18] <TTilus> gauros: packages.ubuntu.com, or better yet synaptic, aptitude or like
[12:18] <Pygi> ketaset: how much memory u have? swap?
[12:19] <gauros> TTilus: mate i have a plugin called gbox that will help me connect dreambox with PC, but it need to be on /var/bin to run
[12:19] <IdleOne> !eggdrop
[12:19] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: use any standard mixer
[12:19] <ubotu> IdleOne: Are you smoking crack?
[12:19] <Cintia> pygi, help me then :)
[12:19] <TTilus> ketaset: hd performance, do you have dma enabled, chec hdparm /dev/hd*
[12:19] <ketaset> 1gb mem, 2gb swap - the machine seems responsived except for launching apps from gnome
[12:19] <Pygi> Cintia: what's the problem??
[12:19] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, yeah, i know.. but where should the headphone levels be?
[12:19] <tech9iner> howto reset 1st run username / password please.. thanks
[12:19] <Pygi> ketaset: lol, 2gb swap :P
[12:19] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: what level?
[12:19] <Cintia> Im trying to set my samba as client
[12:19] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: whatever you find comfortable
[12:19] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, yeah, you asked if i had changed them
[12:20] <Pygi> cintia: huh, and why you caught me for that? :P
[12:20] <Cintia> the linux as client and the xp as server
[12:20] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, i've muted the surround and i'm still getting no sound
[12:20] <Cintia> lol
[12:20] <Cintia> cause u r the best
[12:20] <gauros> TTilus:tahts why i need to login as root to make taht folder
[12:20] <moret> hi!
[12:20] <moret> please
[12:20] <brl4n> pygi:i'm confused obviously.  If i can't get my display to work how do I even issue commands?
[12:20] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: so adjust the Headphones* ones
[12:20] <Pygi> cintia: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/ch10_04.html
[12:20] <moret> where is dpkg-reconfigure locales?
[12:20] <ketaset> dma is enabled ttilus
[12:20] <navarone> tech9iner, you can use install cd to do a rescue...boot up and type "rescue" at prompt...perhaps then you will be able to add a  user and NOT fudge the name and passwords
[12:20] <TTilus> !root
[12:20] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:20] <gauros> TTilus:because as member it does not let me either to copy or paste on /var
[12:20] <Pygi> brl4n: well, can you use a shell???
[12:20] <Cintia> Pygi, cheers, I'll try
[12:20] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: oh, and more importantly, the Wave* ones
[12:20] <Stormx2> I have a dependancy problem! libsvn0-dev:
[12:20] <Stormx2>  Depends: libdb4.2-dev but it is not going to be installed
[12:20] <Pygi> cintia: k, say if it doesnt work
[12:20] <wogi> mwe: apt-get -f remove gforge-db-postgresq gives me Removing gforge-db-postgresql ...cp: cannot stat `/etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf': No such file or directory  dpkg: error processing gforge-db-postgresql (--remove): subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1 :/ I think I broke it.. (Thank you for helping me!)
[12:21] <Pygi> !enter
[12:21] <TTilus> gauros: listen to ubotu ...
[12:21] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:21] <brl4n> Pygi:nothing shows up on the display.  not even a shell.
[12:21] <Pygi> wogi, refrain from that :P
[12:21] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: 'Wave' is also muted. Fix that.
[12:21] <wogi> Pygi: Mm?
[12:21] <Pygi> brl4n: hm, u using ubuntu 5.10? and installation passes ok?
[12:21] <Pygi> wogi, read....
[12:21] <Pygi> !enter
[12:21] <mwe> wogi: sudo apt-get -f with no arguement. just sudo apt-get -f
[12:21] <Stormx2> >_< I feel so invisible tonight.
[12:21] <Pygi> !enter
[12:21] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, still no sound :(
[12:21] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:21] <mwe> wogi: that's what I wanted you to try
[12:21] <Pygi> Stormx2: lol :P
[12:21] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: did you unmute and increase Wave*, too?
[12:21] <Pygi> cintia: tell iif it doesnt work
[12:21] <Stormx2> Pygi: Maybe you could help?
[12:22] <nikol> after the installation where i can find and run the app???
[12:22] <Cintia> ok
[12:22] <Pygi> Stormx2: huh, what do you need?
[12:22] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, yes
[12:22] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: _all_ of them?
[12:22] <punkrockguy318> yes
[12:22] <punkrockguy318> and Wave is muted
[12:22] <brl4n> pygi:well the LiveCD.  it seems to boot fine but nothing appears on the display.  I figured it is trying to start X and it is failing.  how can I access just a shell from the LiveCD.  (AMD64 too)
[12:22] <Stormx2> Pygi: I have a dependancy problem.
[12:22] <Pygi> brl4n: please try again, and if you get shell, then everything else is easy :)
[12:22] <cyphase> can someone give me the link to a nytimes.com article that requires a username?
[12:22] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: it's supposed to be _unmuted_
[12:22] <Pygi> stormx: k, please post the problem on a pm, thanks
[12:22] <moret> I run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" and I don't get nothing! I need reconfigure locales
[12:22] <cyphase> i want to try to get past it (not with BugMeNot)
[12:22] <nikol> after the installation where i can find and run the app???
[12:23] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, alright, it's still the same behavior
[12:23] <navarone> tech9iner, I would do a "man adduser" in terminal first to see what parameters are needed. I think "adduser" by itself will mean a prompt for name and password
[12:23] <gauros> ubuntu:what are other wasy of making folders
[12:23] <Pygi> brl4n: huh, live cd :/ u should have said so :P live cd is kinda tricky and doesnt work as it should but still....
[12:23] <Pygi> brl4n: try using CTRL + ALT + F2
[12:23] <Stormx2> Pygi: Check your PM
[12:23] <brl4n> kool thanks
[12:23] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, any other ideas?
[12:23] <mwe> navarone: and probably no homedir created :)
[12:23] <brl4n> bbl
[12:23] <Pygi> stormx2: I am, I am just busy :P
[12:24] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: sigh. sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1
[12:24] <Pygi> stormx2: responded
[12:25] <nikol> after the installation where i can find and run the app???
[12:25] <henrik__> Anybody up for helping me getting my Radeon 9600 TX to work? Tried the how-tos, no cigar...
[12:25] <mwe> nikol: what app?
[12:25] <slew> hi, whats the program that installs icons and themes from art.gnome.org?
[12:25] <Pygi> henrik: I'll help, just a sec :P
[12:25] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, no luck (
[12:25] <henrik__> cool
[12:25] <navarone> mwe...possibly...I never used the command beforebut man adduser says it will create homwe direcvtory subject to DHOME..blah blah...I guess defaults
[12:25] <moret> please, help, I need reconfigure locales, but when I execute sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales happens nothing
[12:25] <mwe> nikol: most programs add a shorcut to the menu, but it wont appear until you log out and back in I think
[12:26] <saif> cafuego, problem remains
[12:26] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: after you reloaded snd-emu10k1, did you unmute anything?
[12:26] <saif> its dial auto
[12:26] <punkrockguy318> no
[12:26] <saif> anyway thx for the help
[12:26] <crimsun> ...
[12:26] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, my mixer is at the same level
[12:26] <saif> i will push out the phone pin while i start ubuntu
[12:26] <Pygi> ubotu tell henrik__ about ati
[12:26] <Pygi> henrik__, tried that??
[12:26] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: amixer output
[12:26] <wogi> mwe: So that gives me a help file, yeah? But I'm not seeing I guess what I need. I'll keep looking. Thanks!
[12:26] <mwe> navarone: yeah. I was thinking of useradd
[12:27] <punkrockguy318> amixer: Unkown command 'output'
[12:27] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: no, I want the amixer output on pastebin
[12:27] <Pygi> cintia: does it work now?
[12:27] <mwe> wogi: or install the broken package then uninstall it to clean it up
[12:27] <Pygi> I am booked for the next 10 years, please call later if u need any help :P
[12:27] <gauros> how to make file with sodu
[12:27] <ompaul> punkrockguy318, >>amixer<< and put it into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:28] <wogi> mwe: ooh clever. :)
[12:28] <Pygi> gauros: what kind of file?
[12:28] <jamie> I installed Enlightenment, and somehow ended up with entranced as my login I would perfer to go back to the default, GDM? How can I do this
[12:28] <Pygi> gauros: sudo vim ja.txt :))))
[12:28] <Pygi> ubotu tell jamie about GDM
[12:28] <mwe> wogi: yeah sometimes windows logic works in linux too
[12:28] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/498530
[12:28] <navarone> mwe...but update is better...<s>
[12:29] <wogi> mwe: heh I think I was mising sudo apt-get -f install (the "install")
[12:29] <gauros> folder i meant
[12:29] <punkrockguy318>  my sound has been working fine until just recently.  I don't know if it was a dapper dist-upgrade, or the kubuntu install
[12:29] <bimberi> jamie: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[12:29] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: amixer sset 'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack' on
[12:29] <jamie> bimberi, tks
[12:29] <mwe> wogi: so it's fixed?
[12:29] <navarone> punkrockguy318, perhaps you'd be better served visiting a dapper support channel...?
[12:29] <mamadragonboy> Is anyone there who can help me with installation?
[12:29] <bimberi> jamie: yw :)
[12:30] <punkrockguy318> navarone, like what?
[12:30] <Pygi> navarone: there is no dapper support channel :/
[12:30] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: ugh, you could have told me it was a dist-upgrade.
[12:30] <navarone> no? oy vey
[12:30] <gauros> how to make a folder
[12:30] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, I thought i mentioned it
[12:30] <gauros> on sudo
[12:30] <Pygi> navarone: except #dapper :PPP
[12:30] <mwe> gauros: sudo mkdir
[12:30] <navarone> carry on punkrockguy318 ...<s>
[12:30] <mamadragonboy> please?
[12:30] <gauros> tahnx
[12:30] <mamadragonboy> or direct me to where I can get help?
[12:30] <Pygi> !patience
[12:30] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[12:30] <wogi> mwe: Not totally no, but I'm getting some slightly different messages :D
[12:30] <mwe> wogi: ok
[12:31] <tech9iner> can one convert ubuntu to kubuntu via synaptic with apropos sources/repositories perchance please?
[12:31] <mamadragonboy> ok
[12:31] <mwe> wogi: what is it complaining about?
[12:31] <Pygi> tech: ofcourse
[12:31] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: not that I see. Anyhow...
[12:31] <sethk> tech9iner, you can, but it is easier to just have both gnome and kde installed
[12:31] <tech9iner> Pygi: thanks
[12:31] <sethk> tech9iner, that's trivial
[12:31] <Pygi> tech: use sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:31] <Stormx2> According to the good folks in #audacious, my SVN is broken. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6856
[12:31] <alekandr> tech9iner: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :]  the rest is the same, apart from kde and gnome :]
[12:31] <tech9iner> comforting indeedy mates..
[12:31] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, any other ideas? i've tried two different pairs of speakers... and it seems to work on my win install
[12:31] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: did you unmute what I siad?
[12:31] <crimsun> said
[12:31] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, yes
[12:32] <bimberi> mamadragonboy: tell us what the problem is, hopefully someone can help
[12:32] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: now unmute 'Wave' and 'Wave Front' and adjust them
[12:32] <wogi> mwe: Well the pkg its having trouble removing (even after reinstalling) is gforge-db-postgresql. And it first said it couldn't find /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf (I guess removed in a previous uninstall attempt?) and died, so I touch /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf, and now its saying cannot open /var/lib/postgres/data/postmaster.pid for reading: no file or directory, so thats where its dying.
[12:33] <gauros> how can my user have full root permisions, copy, paste, delete, new etc
[12:33] <michael__> might flood - sorry, this is the terminal report of my problem
[12:33] <mamadragonboy> When I boot from the cd, it give me this message "isolinux 2.04 2003-04-16 isolinux: loading spec packet failed, trying to wing it... isolinux: failed to locate cd-rom devide; boot failed"  But I know my cd rom is working
[12:33] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: sorry, 'Wave' and 'Front'
[12:33] <mwe> wogi: and you can't remove it either?
[12:33] <kitty_> my ubuntu doesnt recognize music off cd's... its doing my nut in
[12:33] <michael__> nope have to type it
[12:33] <Pygi> dragonboy: media is bad or corupted
[12:33] <wogi> thats what i'm trying to do..
[12:33] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, done, same thing :-\
[12:34] <gauros> how can my user have full root permisions, copy, paste, delete, new etc
[12:34] <mamadragonboy> should I try finding a new driver? or what?
[12:34] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: mute 'External Amplifier'
[12:34] <kitty_> can some on help me... my computer wont make any sound come out...
[12:34] <crimsun> god I hate broken emu10k1 chipsets.
[12:34] <Pygi> dragonboy: no get new media
[12:34] <wogi> mwe: its like -f isn't powerful enough :P
[12:34] <mwe> wogi: but sudo apt-get --purge remove gforge-db-postgresql wont work?
[12:34] <Pygi> crimsun: hehe :)
[12:34] <Pygi> !patience
[12:34] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[12:34] <mamadragonboy> ok, thanks- this was my last attempt to get an old computer to work-
[12:34] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, done, no speaker output :(
[12:35] <wogi> mwe: nope. exactly same thing :/
[12:35] <henrik__> I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but I seem to be missing some of the fonts under the "files"-section (meaning I don't have them on my comp) in my xorg.conf. Where do I go about getting those?
[12:35] <navarone> gaurus why not simply use sudo instead of root account? Or do you enjoy your time here so much you want a reason to copme back?
[12:35] <wogi> hehe
[12:35] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, what do you think the problem could be?
[12:35] <Pygi> !font
[12:35] <ubotu> [font]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[12:35] <henrik__> thanks
[12:35] <Doomhammer> can someone help me out a bit with QEMU? I can't seem to get the network working
[12:36] <gauros> navarone:mate i am new in here, i have no idea about sodu
[12:36] <Pygi> doomhammer: what is ur problem exactly?
[12:36] <kitty_> who runs this thing
[12:36] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: ok, here's what you need to do: unmute anything that has a 'Front', 'Headphone', or 'Wave' in the title, then toggle 'External Amplifier' until you get a combination that works.
[12:36] <Pygi> ubotu tell gauros about sudo
[12:36] <Pygi> ubotu tell gauros about gksudo
[12:36] <Pygi> ubotu tell gauros about kdesu
[12:36] <gauros> navarone:where can i get a list with al the commands
[12:36] <Pygi> there gauros
[12:36] <mwe> wogi: well I'd try sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/gforge-db-post<tab> then sudo dpkg --purge gforge-db-postgresql then
[12:36] <pschulz01> Greetings: I'm getting a 'can't display' error when using 'sftp:' on the desktop.
[12:36] <Doomhammer> Pygi: any OS i install in QEMU (windows xp, ubuntu, whatever) can't access the network
[12:36] <navarone> punkrockguy318, sorry if you've done this but have you looked at the System Multimedia selector in System preferences and seen if it looks ok?
[12:36] <Doomhammer> Pygi: although, qemu can access /dev/net/tun and the kernel module is properly configured
[12:37] <nikol> i run an .deb and i can;t install it, what prog i must select to install it?????
[12:37] <Pygi> dpkg -i package.deb
[12:37] <Pygi> doomhammer: I am guessing that you cant run two instances of a network :/ the host OS is using network, but the guest cant use it
[12:37] <mwe> nikol: installing random debs could break the system though
[12:37] <michael__> E: Cannot get debconf sersion. Is debconf Installed?        debconf: apt-extracttemplates failed: Argument list too long <-- REPEATS        Preconfiguring packages...        dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 2 package `dpkg': error in Version string`': version string is empty
[12:37] <Stormx2> Ack. Reinstalling SVN did not help at all!
[12:37] <Pygi> michael: do not enter
[12:37] <nikol> pygi: in console?
[12:37] <navarone> gaurus, sudo is simply a way to limit the time people spend on their systems with root privileges. Running root all the time is insecure and potentially can make a simple mistake costly
[12:37] <Pygi> !enter
[12:37] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:38] <theine> nikol, or probably rather "sudo dpkg -i package.deb"
[12:38] <punkrockguy318> navarone, there's no such thing in Dapper
[12:38] <nikol> pygi: in console?
[12:38] <wogi> mwe: That <tab> doesn't completefor me.. I don't have that file..
[12:38] <Pygi> nikol: yesh
[12:38] <michael__> -while trying to install debconf
[12:38] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, still no luck
[12:38] <Doomhammer> Pygi: the host OS (ubuntu hoary) shouldn't be using /dev/net/tun, afaik ?
[12:38] <bobby> I need to install via graphics drivers (I believe viafb) ...does any one know the aptitude deb package for it because the precompiled binary doesn't work
[12:38] <Pygi> nikol: but don't try to do that unless u are familiar with all types of things
[12:38] <pschulz01> I have mounted a server system using ssh, and can browse, but get the erro when 'double clicking'. Can copy the file to local filesystem, and view it there though. Any ideas?
[12:38] <wogi> mwe: Let me see what I Do have in there.
[12:38] <bettong_BOFH> ok i had installed kubuntu via apt get later i removed it and i want to get the kubuntu crap outta my menu's?
[12:38] <Pygi> doomhammer: hm.....
[12:38] <gauros> navarone: i just need root for one think, is it possible to get the root pass
[12:38] <bettong_BOFH> is there a menu editor for ubuntu?
[12:38] <Pygi> bettong: #kubuntu
[12:38] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: ok, use the Volume Control (in OSS perspective)
[12:38] <wogi> mwe: aha, one more dir, "archives"
[12:38] <Pygi> gauros: USE SUDO
[12:38] <bettong_BOFH> there no help there
[12:38] <gauros> navarone:i cannot use sudo as i am new with linux
[12:38] <Pygi> NO ROOT
[12:38] <nikol> pygi: it is not neccesery to give the whole path?
[12:38] <Pygi> gauros: ubotu told u
[12:38] <bettong_BOFH> thats why i came here
[12:38] <bettong_BOFH> lol
[12:38] <theine> pschulz01, what error do you get?
[12:38] <Pygi> nikol: no
[12:39] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, okay
[12:39] <Pygi> gauros: ubotu told u about sudo
[12:39] <navarone> gaurus what command are you trying to run that needs root? sudo can be used for it I am sure
[12:39] <theine> pschulz01, and how did you mount it?
[12:39] <phoghawk> Hey guys, I just installed GAIM 2.0 via CVS. I wanna know how to tell apt-get that it's already the newest version and that it doesn't need to be upgraded. Can anyone help me
[12:39] <gauros> Pygi:ubotu told me and u think its so easy to understand
[12:39] <bimberi> bettong_BOFH: Applications -> System Tools -> Applications Menu Editor
[12:39] <Pygi> gauros: well, it is easy :P
[12:39] <Pygi> just type "sudo" :P
[12:39] <Pygi> what is a problem?
[12:39] <bettong_BOFH> bimberi: thank you
[12:39] <bimberi> bettong_BOFH: np :)
[12:39] <theine> nikol, you need to give the whole path to package.deb, yes
[12:40] <gauros> Pygi: ok make a folder, i did, copy a file form external hard driver to theta folder and run that file
[12:40] <bimberi> nikol: you'll also need to use sudo
[12:40] <Pygi> gauros: and whats the problem?
[12:40] <gauros> navarone:thats what i want to do
[12:40] <phoghawk> Hey guys, I just installed GAIM 2.0 via CVS. I wanna know how to tell apt-get that it's already the newest version and that it doesn't need to be upgraded. Can anyone help me
[12:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell phoghawk about pinning
[12:40] <gauros> Pygi: do you think its linux so easy for everyone
[12:40] <moret> please, help, I need reconfigure locales, but when I execute sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales happens nothing
[12:40] <phoghawk> thanks nalioth
[12:40] <moret> please, help, I need reconfigure locales, but when I execute sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales happens nothing, I use Dapper
[12:40] <Pygi> gauros: not actually, but "sudo" shouldnt be a problem :P
[12:41] <Pygi> moret, visit #ubuntu-devel
[12:41] <bimberi> phoghawk: you can use synaptic to lock the version (Package menu)
[12:41] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, what should i do with the oss volume controls?
[12:41] <Pygi> !patience
[12:41] <pschulz01> Couldn't display "sftp://blue/<path-goes-here>/file.PDF" - in a popup box.
[12:41] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[12:41] <navarone> gaurus so in terminal it would be sudo cp /path to file to copy  /folder you made
[12:42] <navarone> gaurus you need to mount external harddrive as well in order to access the file to copy
[12:42] <gauros> thats what i am trying to find
[12:42] <gauros> all the sodu commands
[12:42] <gauros> i have
[12:42] <Pygi> sudo*
[12:42] <gauros> and it works
[12:42] <Pygi> well you can run anything with sudo :/
[12:42] <theine> pschulz01, hmm, and you can view the file locally if you double click it?
[12:42] <Pygi> huh, should I just quit :P
[12:42] <wogi> mwe: Good gravy.From that dpkg --purge /var... one, it tells me /etc/init.d/postgresql was notfound, and just errors out. Ok.. I'll just need to start over maybe.. install the whole thing again and try debfoster again or something *droop* h8 gforge
[12:42] <navarone> gaurus try "man sudo" in terminal or "sudo -help"
[12:42] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: adjust them til you find a combination that works. I'm busy atm.
[12:42] <nekostar> is there a package like cksfv that does md5's of files and saves or something?
[12:42] <pschulz01> theine: I think I've found my problem...
[12:43] <mwe> wogi: did you reinstall it first?
[12:43] <mwe> wogi: with dpkg
[12:44] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, alright. thank you for all your time.. i've adjusted them as much as i could, i really don't think it's a problem with the mixer, it was working fine and I don't see what would have changed the mixer... thanks a lot for your help and if you have any more ideas, let me know
[12:44] <pschulz01> theine: it works on my workstation, not my co-workers.  Problem with subversion and I have no idea what it is.....
[12:44] <wogi> mwe: hmm.. With apt I think. But I've tried what you've said. I was just thinking gforge-db-postgresql is depending on something else that Did get successfully uninstalled..
[12:44] <theine> pschulz01, yes, very
[12:44] <Stormx2> And no-one else has it.
[12:45] <gauros> last question, why couple of manths ago, when i had ubuntu, i could do all these things
[12:45] <mwe> wogi: sudo apt-get -d install --reinstall gforge-db-postgresql should re-download the .deb
[12:45] <nekostar> ah thanx theine
[12:45] <theine> nekostar, welcome
[12:45] <navarone> Stormx2, what is subversion?
[12:45] <tuppa> gah  @ OO.o2 on dapper
[12:45] <pschulz01> theine: How does gnome use the ssh client? Does it use a library and read the 'config' first time?
[12:45] <theine> navarone, it's a revision control system for code management
[12:45] <mwe> wogi: the sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/gforge-db-post<tab> <enter>
[12:45] <Stormx2> navarone: svn, from my understanding its a way of running two versions of a package at the same time.
[12:45] <wogi> mwe: did it put it in that /var/cache dir..?
[12:45] <navarone> ...ahhh...over my head...lol
[12:45] <wogi> mwe: k
[12:46] <mwe> wogi: then sudo dpkg --purge gforge-db-postgresql
[12:46] <theine> pschulz01, it probably reads the config, yes
[12:46] <kairu0> i have an irq sharing problem. my sound and network card want to share the same irq. how can i fix this?
[12:46] <wogi> mwe: The install is failing due to absent /etc/init.d/postgresql
[12:46] <theine> pschulz01, what exactly Gnome it does under the hood I don't know...
[12:47] <mwe> wogi: even with --force-all?
[12:47] <nekostar> gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[12:47] <nekostar> what does that mean theine ?
[12:47] <wogi> mwe: yeah :(
[12:47] <nekostar> i was trying to check manual on it and its fuxaserwerweord
[12:47] <nekostar> i think i messed something up somewhere lol
[12:47] <theine> nekostar, what does what mean?
[12:47] <wogi> mwe: dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/gforge-db-postgresql_3.1-31_all.deb
[12:47] <nekostar> gzip: stdout: No space left on device <<--
[12:47] <wogi> mwe: Its right, isn't it?
[12:48] <nekostar> man: command '/bin/gzip -dc /usr/share/man/man1/md5sum.1.gz' failed with exit status 256
[12:48] <theine> nekostar, that probably means that your hard drive is full...
[12:48] <nekostar> thats the rest of the error
[12:48] <nekostar> nope not at
[12:48] <nekostar> o: the root hdd
[12:48] <mwe> wogi: sudo it
[12:48] <nekostar> yeah
[12:48] <pschulz01> theine: I'm gessing that it would be the 'gnome-volume-manager' that does the 'stuff'
[12:48] <wogi> mwe: well I was naughty and sudo su'd earlier.. But I will.
[12:48] <nekostar> is there a way to increase the size of my root hdd?
[12:48] <theine> nekostar, clear /tmp or something...
[12:49] <mwe> wogi: that's ok
[12:49] <theine> pschulz01, if that's the same as gnome-vfs, then probably yes
[12:49] <nekostar> yeah thats a fix for now./..
[12:50] <pschulz01> theine: I'm looking at the output from 'ps'. What is the ... ah nautilus
[12:50] <theine> pschulz01, yes
[12:50] <wogi> mwe: we're trying all the forceful things aren't we.. :/ Maybe there's some manual way I can remove it..
[12:51] <mwe> wogi: I'd go over man dpkg. there are other options
[12:51] <wogi> mwe: kk
[12:51] <yanis> hello
[12:51] <mwe> wogi: I just told you what usually works for me
[12:51] <yanis> can anybody help me with ssh authentication with rsa keys.......
[12:51] <theine> pschulz01, by the way, you might want to have a look at http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html . That's really cool
[12:51] <tech9iner> navarone rulz ;] ] ..
[12:52] <jp-> is there a meta package that install xorg, all the drivers and libs required to configure and run it? i've tried xorg-common xserver-xorg-core... still i cannot configure the X server, it dies with Missing output drivers
[12:52] <theine> pschulz01, you are then able to access files on a remote server both through nautilus and command line as if they existed on your local system
[12:52] <Pygi> tech: well, you can use root...
[12:52] <bimberi> jp-: xserver-xorg ?
[12:52] <Pygi> but not advisable
[12:52] <jp-> in debian there was an x-window-system meta package that did it.
[12:52] <jp-> no, have that one installed too.
[12:53] <edoardo> hi gals, hi dudes : )
[12:53] <edoardo> you guys
[12:53] <theine> pschulz01, don't know how X forwarding is handled in that case though
[12:53] <mwe> tech9iner: just use sudo -i if you need a root prompt
[12:53] <tech9iner> how does one access root Pygi .. and thanks chap for input fwiw ;] ] .. via konsole/terminal ?..
[12:53] <edoardo> you guys, i'm havin' trouble with gnome-volume-manager, hal, and such. like, when i connect my usb key, ain't scsi.agent supposed to pop up and do somethin'? cause it don't appear in /var/log/messages to me! help! : ) thankyou! : )
[12:53] <navarone> tech9iner, don't applaud ...throw money
[12:53] <tech9iner> mwe: coolness.. thanx
[12:53] <michael__> What do I add to the repository to make it take from the CD as well?
[12:54] <Pygi> tech9iner: well, first set a pass using "sudo root passwd"
[12:54] <pschulz01> theine: Looking in '/proc/<process-id>' for nautilus.. 'cat maps' I can see that the 'libsftp' library is being used...
[12:54] <Pygi> then u can login as root
[12:54] <Pygi> ubotu tell tech9iner about root
[12:54] <mwe> but that not needed when you can just sudo -i to get a root shell
[12:54] <bimberi> jp-: x-window-system-core ?
[12:54] <Pygi> tech: lol :P
[12:55] <theine> pschulz01, I see...
[12:55] <navarone> I hope that's American money...<s>
[12:55] <pschulz01> theine: I don't see why it would need to be used either... unless it is needed for mime-types?
[12:55] <jp-> bimberi: yes, that one too.
[12:55] <pschulz01> theine: X11 that is.
[12:55] <bimberi> jp-: ok, i'll give up now :P
[12:55] <tech9iner> hell.. got me printing overhead down to just .065 per sheet.. wthell i say.. share w the community ;] ] .. livn up to ubuntu is all lol
[12:55] <edoardo> you guys? help with hotplug! : )
[12:56] <Pygi> bye all people
[12:56] <jp-> yeah, i give up too.
[12:56] <CodenameKT> bye
[12:56] <Pygi> see ya
[12:56] <jp-> later on
[12:56] <tech9iner> ciao 4 now Pygi ;]
[12:56] <theine> pschulz01, wait a minute... you're right of course. Why would it need X forwarding? The PDF viewer runs locally after all...
[12:56] <joedj> hi folks, i have what's essentially a KDE question (running kubuntu), but #kde is not helping. attempting to get a borderless window, i set konsole's window type to dock. now konsole can't get the focus at all, so i can't change it back by accessing the Alt+F3 window menu or anything. how can i use konsole again?
[12:57] <duckdown> Are there more current versions of ubuntu than 5.10 ?
[12:57] <phoghawk> duckdown, no
[12:57] <joedj> i have about 10 konsole windows open that i was actively working in, so it would be nice if i can fix this without reinstalling my OS ;-)
[12:57] <bimberi> !dapper
[12:57] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[12:57] <phoghawk> duckdown, not until April
[12:57] <duckdown> phoghawk its not like Debian Stable using really old software is it?
[12:58] <phoghawk> phoghawk, I have no idea. I just know when the next version is coming out
[12:58] <yanis> do I need to use any special option when I run ssh client and I want to authenticate with rsa keys?
[12:58] <theine> pschulz01, it's too late for me thinking properly...
[12:58] <CodenameKT> duckdown: no it will use the latest ver if it can
[12:58] <navarone> hmm...I just found a webpage  entry with someone telling how they got ipod nano working if anyone is interested http://www.ubuntux.org/forums/ubuntu-linux/installation-0    <--- scroll down
[12:58] <pschulz01> theine: Hmmm tricky... Thanks for your thoughts.
[12:58] <duckdown> CodenameKT I hope so.. Debian-STABLE is way too old
[12:58] <mwe> yanis: you need the authorized_keys to contain your public key
[12:59] <duckdown> thanks.
[12:59] <CodenameKT> duckdown: np
[12:59] <pschulz01> theine: Where are you?
[12:59] <yanis> mwe: I have done that.it still askes me for password.
[12:59] <mwe> yanis: and go over /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:59] <boogie> has anybody seen king kong yet?
[12:59] <CodenameKT> yes i dled it
[12:59] <mwe> yanis: because that's the first method it tries I guess
[12:59] <CodenameKT> boogie: nice fx
[01:00] <yanis> mwe: no its the last according to the man ssh
[01:00] <mwe> yanis: I don't know then
[01:00] <viecili> hi all, i just want to enable the latin keyboard behavior. can anyone help me?
[01:00] <boogie> was it as good as they say it is?
[01:00] <yanis> mwe: do I need to change anything in sshd_config?
[01:00] <navarone> CodenameKT, Peter Jackson doesn't look like the same person though...he has lost a lot of weight since LOTR
[01:00] <theine> pschulz01, you mean physically?
[01:00] <CodenameKT> boogie: i don't know what the say it was but i think it was a decent movie to go see it again in theatres
[01:01] <boogie> thanks
[01:01] <CodenameKT> boogie: np
[01:01] <tech9iner> k mates.. riddle me this please
[01:01] <CodenameKT> that was a little off tpic tho
[01:01] <theine> pschulz01, in any case, I would suggest you try sshfs
[01:02] <viecili> hi all, i just want to enable the latin keyboard behavior. can anyone help me? (~a "u 'e `a)
[01:02] <tech9iner> in logged in under new username i created via rescue from install cd since i fckd up my 1st ever username/pw somehow ;[.. but the only sudo approved user is the one lost now..
[01:02] <tech9iner> so..
[01:02] <tech9iner> how doth one work round this bugger please..
[01:02] <tech9iner> thanks
[01:03] <tech9iner> ??? is not in the duoers file. this incident will be reported.... is all im getting mates..
[01:03] <Mace> how come ubuntu installation doesnt let me choose which PARTITION to install in, but only HARD DRIVE?
[01:03] <theine> pschulz01, a simple "apt-get install sshfs" will get you in shape
[01:03] <mwe> Mace: it does. just don't choose default
[01:04] <michael__> what line do I add to sources.list to make it look on the install CD????
[01:04] <pschulz01> theine: On the client or server?
[01:04] <janoli> apt-cdrom add creo pschulz01
[01:04] <janoli> i think
[01:05] <tech9iner> i need root access to reset or edit installation cd's 1st username / pw config i buggered..
[01:05] <pschulz01> janoli: ???
[01:05] <theine> pschulz01, on the client
[01:05] <edoardo> you guys
[01:05] <michael__> E: Type 'apt-cdrom' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:05] <edoardo> do you have a scsi.rc file in your system?
[01:06] <wogi> mwe: do yo uthink the --nocheck option from dpkg-deb might help me?
[01:06] <joanne> having trouble with dual booot of ubuntu and os 9 yaboot configured  to dual boot added the line macos line and ran ybin? hit m in yaboot promt and go to flashing qestion mark.
[01:06] <joanne> anybody know what to do?
[01:07] <michael__> can ne1 help me?
[01:07] <wogi> michael: Uhm. I'm really a bad person to get help from. but can you comment out that line for now?
[01:07] <pschulz01> theine: That works better  :-)
[01:08] <michael__> I need the debconf package - how can i get it installed?
[01:08] <Monk> hi people. Now I know this is a seemingly random question, but... does anyone know anyone in Poland?
[01:08] <crimsun> michael__: install it.
[01:08] <wogi> michael__: Can you do apt-get update, apt-get install debconf?
[01:08] <michael__> http://pastebin.com/498560
[01:09] <theine> pschulz01, yeah, I felt that I was living under rock when I learned that sshfs existed...
[01:09] <mwe> wogi: try it
[01:09] <Monk> preferably linux fans
[01:09] <michael__> there's my problem -^ that link
[01:09] <nalioth> joanne: what line did you add in yaboot.conf for macos ?
[01:09] <joanne> the line that is in the yaboot file suggested with partiton # for os 9 location
[01:10] <edoardo> can anyone help me settin' hotplug up?
[01:10] <Monk> no Polish conections?
[01:10] <nalioth> joanne: can you pastebin your yaboot.conf and the output of "sudo fdisk -l" please
[01:10] <gah000> what is the program for partitioning
[01:10] <joanne> i'll try will take me a bit
[01:10] <nalioth> gah000: you can use gparted
[01:10] <gah000> thanks
[01:11] <LiNoH> does somebody help me please..
[01:11] <mwe> !helpme
[01:11] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[01:11] <michael__> !helpme - question above
[01:11] <ubotu> michael__: I give up, what is it?
[01:11] <LiNoH> if i use hoary, i can upgrade it to breezy only changing repositories?
[01:11] <wogi> michael__: Eep. I wonder what is in that file /var/lib/dpkg/status ?
[01:11] <michael__> hon, i get
[01:11] <hikenboot> is there an environment variable for specifying the python version such as export python=python2.3  ?
[01:12] <mwe> LiNoH: you should be able to
[01:12] <nalioth> hikenboot: there is if you specify one
[01:12] <mwe> LiNoH: it broke for me though
[01:12] <allan_> hey, is there a python IDE preinstalled on Ubuntu?
[01:12] <hikenboot> what do you mean nalioth...?
[01:13] <mwe> allan_: not preinstalled I think
[01:13] <hikenboot> what is the environment variable ????
[01:13] <nalioth> hikenboot: you have a .bashrc in your home directory. you can set any environment variables there that you desire
[01:13] <Cintia> hello: How Can I configure my linux as client??????
[01:13] <allan_> is there one you can download? if so, whats the name?
[01:13] <mwe> Cintia: client for what?
[01:13] <Cintia> network
[01:13] <nalioth> allan_: 'eric' is in the repos
[01:13] <hikenboot> right i realize that but  i am trying to specify one specifically for python...so would the varialble be called python ?
[01:14] <LiNoH> how is the most secure method to upgrade hoary to breezy? if i use only hoary repositories i will de updated? or the breezy has latest packs and hoary not?
[01:14] <Cintia> the pc w winxp will be the server
[01:14] <mwe> Cintia: you want to mount a windows share or what?
[01:14] <nalioth> hikenboot: idk about python stuff, you may google "export python bashrc" or something like that
[01:14] <hikenboot> ok thanks
[01:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell LiNoH about breezy
[01:14] <Cintia> I want to linux x xp in network
[01:14] <wogi> mwe: Ok. I noticed in upper right corner that I had updates. Clicked on it and it told me to update postgres. Exclaimed "Oh i found a broken pkg!" did some stuff, and now the problem is all gone.. I wonder if I dare try uninstalling postgres. . . >:)
[01:14] <Cintia> and share the internet connection
[01:15] <Cintia> but the dsl modem is connected to the xp
[01:15] <LiNoH> nalioth: thakns
[01:15] <LiNoH> thanks*
[01:15] <madewokherd> hikenboot: you can use $PYTHONSTARTUP to specify a file that python executes when it starts
[01:15] <mwe> Cintia: well configure windows and you dhclient from linux I guess
[01:15] <allan_> what exactly are universe and multiverse?
[01:15] <Cintia> should be samba,shouldn't it?
[01:15] <mwe> wogi: oh
[01:15] <nalioth> allan_: repositories holding packages with non free /other patent encumbered pkgs
[01:16] <Cintia> I have another computer w xp conected to the server
[01:16] <mwe> wogi: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade would probably have fixed it then
[01:16] <allan_> when i was looking at installing some things, it said make sure to install universe/multiverse first
[01:16] <Cintia> I just need to set the linux. I was told I had to set the samba
[01:16] <mwe> wogi: I thinks it's safe to sudo apt-get remove postgresql now
[01:16] <allan_> is there a point to that?
[01:17] <wogi> mwe: i So love this distribution.
[01:17] <irvin> allan_, yes there is
[01:17] <cyphase> at the end of an article about Vista at CES
[01:17] <cyphase> "But I think that what most people want from the next Windows isn't more stuff added, but rather stuff to be taken away--like crashes, lockups, viruses, error messages and security holes."
[01:17] <allan_> does it cost money though?
[01:17] <mwe> wogi: did you interupt apt or synaptic at some point since it broke?
[01:17] <nalioth> allan_: yes, you'll need universe and multiverse, they offer over 10,000 more programs for you
[01:17] <nalioth> allan_: no it does not.
[01:17] <irvin> allan_, no it's comes free of charge
[01:17] <navarone> wogi...this beats the socks off any mandrake I have used (dunno if that says much tho...)
[01:18] <wogi> mwe: I don't think so. But I went to apt-get remove postgres I'm back to cannot open somesuch file, it isn't there.  hehe interesting.
[01:18] <allan_> so you guys recommend installing universe and multiverse anyways?
[01:18] <LiNoH> why ubuntu don't create a central repository? like debian (stable/testing/unstable)
[01:18] <Cintia> that is it?
[01:18] <mwe> wogi: annoying
[01:18] <navarone> allan you don't install universe and multiverse...you enable them so that you can install packages that are in those repos
[01:18] <wogi> mwe: so I try to remove it, and now the gforge-db-postgresql errors are back, but in the upper right hand corner is that red icon that I'm sure when I click on is going to tell me to update postgres..
[01:19] <mwe> wogi: and you can't sudo apt-get --reinstall install it?
[01:19] <nalioth> allan_: yes, certainly enable uni and multi
[01:19] <LiNoH> instead of a rep to wwarty, other to hoary, other to breezy..
[01:19] <allan_> ohhhh
[01:19] <allan_> ok
[01:19] <allan_> thanks a lot
[01:19] <nalioth> LiNoH: because we're not debian
[01:19] <navarone> allan multi and uni have a lot of packages that you may find useful or neccessary
[01:19] <mwe> wogi: maybe try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:20] <LiNoH> but i didnt want to say to be a debian..
[01:20] <LiNoH> but to create a central repository with all upgrades
[01:20] <Cintia> somebody here knows how to set a network - linux x windows?
[01:20] <allan_> one question though, why do they call multiverse non free?
[01:20] <michael> sorry, got disconnected
[01:21] <Need_urgent_help> hi, anyone got a sec?
[01:21] <michael> where was i?
[01:21] <michael> heck, i'll find it
[01:21] <gpm> hey folks. i was wondering if i might be able to get a newer version of logjam here on breezy? the one i have doesn't do tags. yes i've updated and dist-upgraded
[01:22] <navarone> allan probably because the licences for the software in multi are not covered under gpl or open source agreements...so they are not technically free
[01:22] <madewokherd> allan_: I would assume they mean it's not free software (which means more than being available free of charge)
[01:22] <mwe> wogi: then sudo apt-get --reinstall install postgresql. did you try that. then sudo apt-get --purge remove postgresql
[01:22] <LiNoH> why i cant change resolution to 1024x768? i edited xorg.conf but it don't supports.. ubuntu was the only that didnt supported.. kubuntu breezy supported too
[01:22] <LiNoH> it was because was ubuntu live?
[01:22] <navarone> madewokherd, your nick is gonna give me nightmares...<s>
[01:22] <mwe> !tell LiNoH about fixres
[01:22] <wogi> mwe: actually the update/dist-upgrade did Not work (just fyi)
[01:22] <Need_urgent_help> what do you do if X wont start, and you cant even login?
[01:22] <madewokherd> what's wrong with woks?
[01:23] <mwe> LiNoH: read /msg from ubotu
[01:23] <mwe> wogi: what failed?
[01:23] <mwe> wogi: pastebin errors
[01:24] <joanne> ## yaboot.conf generated by the Ubuntu installer
[01:24] <joanne> ##
[01:24] <joanne> ## run: "man yaboot.conf" for details. Do not make changes until you have!!
[01:24] <joanne> ## see also: /usr/share/doc/yaboot/examples for example configurations.
[01:24] <joanne> ##
[01:24] <joanne> ## For a dual-boot menu, add one or more of:
[01:24] <joanne> ## bsd=/dev/hdaX, macos=/dev/hdaY, macosx=/dev/hdaZ
[01:24] <joanne> boot=/dev/hda6
[01:24] <joanne> device=/pci@80000000/mac-io@10/ide@20000/disk@0:
[01:24] <joanne> partition=8
[01:24] <wogi> mwe what does that mean, pastebin errors?
[01:24] <mwe> !tell wogi about pastebin
[01:24] <mwe> wogi: read /msg from ubotu
[01:25] <nalioth> Cintia: ask in the channel please, i don't accept PMs
[01:25] <Cintia> I've asked many times
[01:26] <mwe> Cintia: you shouldn't pm without permission no matter what
[01:26] <Cintia> what?
[01:26] <nalioth> Cintia: we are not ignoring you, but if you get no answers, it's highly likely nobody knows atm
[01:26] <damotor> hello
[01:26] <kairu0> i have an irq sharing problem. my sound and network card want to share the same irq. how can i fix this?
[01:26] <gpm> is dapper safe to use? more or less?
[01:27] <Cintia> ok guys, tks anyway
[01:27] <nalioth> gpm: not for your production machine, no
[01:27] <damotor> do u know how can I convert from a firewire video source (/dev/raw1394) to a v4l source (/dev/video0)?
[01:27] <holy_cow> dapper installer is weird, lots of strange errors *hmmm*
[01:27] <gpm> nalioth: so, it's more or less like using sid on debian?
[01:27] <holy_cow> time to help out with some of the bugs
[01:27] <wogi> mwe: I think you want this?: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6859
[01:27] <joanne>         #                    type name                 length   base     ( size )  system
[01:27] <joanne> /dev/hda1     Apple_partition_map Apple                    63 @ 1        ( 31.5k)  Partition map
[01:27] <joanne> /dev/hda2        Apple_Driver_ATA Macintosh                54 @ 64       ( 27.0k)  Unknown
[01:27] <joanne> /dev/hda3        Apple_Driver_ATA Macintosh                74 @ 118      ( 37.0k)  Unknown
[01:27] <joanne> /dev/hda4      Apple_Driver_IOKit Macintosh               512 @ 192      (256.0k)  Unknown
[01:27] <joanne> /dev/hda5           Apple_Patches Patch Partition         512 @ 704      (256.0k)  Unknown
[01:27] <joanne> /dev/hda6         Apple_Bootstrap untitled               1954 @ 1216     (977.0k)  NewWorld bootblock
[01:27] <joanne> /dev/hda7               Apple_HFS untitled 2         30306304 @ 9826189  ( 14.5G)  HFS
[01:28] <mwe> nalioth: thanks
[01:28] <nalioth> joanne: visit paste.ubuntulinux.nl and paste both of those things please
[01:28] <nalioth> ubotu: tell joanne about paste
[01:28] <nalioth> joanne: or the URL ubotu just sent you
[01:29] <MrRio> anyone know how to make java apps take on my gtk theme like they do in fedora?
[01:29] <martin_> Need some help - I messed up: I was trying to make an ext2 volume that I plugged in writable, so I typed "sudo chmod og=rw /mnt/data"...  Now I can only see the top level directory and files but the system does not know what they are, so it seems that I have lost all of the data on that drive.  How can I fix this?
[01:30] <MattwestM> ok, what do I need to put in the grub.conf file to get ubuntu 5.10 to boot. I just installed it and I am using Fedora's grub
[01:30] <mwe> wogi: now that postgresql is installed try apt-get dist-upgrade again
[01:32] <wogi> mwe: It says its up to date. :)
[01:33] <mwe> wogi: so no broken things anymore I guess?
[01:33] <StringBlade> all: a little help with apt-get and python2.4?  I screwed up and got rid of python2.4 and now it says it can't configure it if I try to install again
[01:33] <nalioth> StringBlade: in a terminal, type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[01:33] <wogi> mwe: hehe until I type apt-get remove gforge-db-postgres or apt-get remove postgres i imagine.
[01:33] <mwe> wogi: go ahead and apt-get remove gforge-db-postgresql if you like
[01:34] <mwe> wogi: I doubt it will break now
[01:34] <mwe> wogi: if it does pastebin the errors
[01:34] <StringBlade> nalioth: says 0 packages to upgrade
[01:34] <wogi> mwe: au contraire.
[01:34] <wogi> mwe: mkay.
[01:34] <sexcopter8000m> if i have a mass of files in a hierarchy of folders, is there a means of finding duplicates? i mean like spotting identical md5sums or something?
[01:34] <nalioth> StringBlade: then "sudo apt-get -f install python2.4" or w/e the name of the pkg was
[01:34] <LiNoH> where goes window border themes in home folder?
[01:35] <LiNoH> icons to .icons.. themes to .themes..
[01:35] <StringBlade> > Compiling python modules in /usr/lib/python2.4 ...
[01:35] <StringBlade> > /usr/bin/python2.4: can't open file '/usr/lib/python2.4/compileall.py': [Errno 2]  No such file or directory
[01:35] <wogi> mwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6861
[01:35] <holy_cow> http://www.linuxedge.org/?q=node/40  <-- filezilla on linux?
[01:35] <MattwestM> all: ok, what do I need to put in the grub.conf file to get ubuntu 5.10 to boot. I just installed it and I am using Fedora's grub
[01:35] <holy_cow> oh thats neat, finally a competitor to gftp
[01:35] <nalioth> StringBlade: sudo apt-get install --reinstall python2.4
[01:35] <StringBlade> nalioth: same problem
[01:36] <michael> http://pastebin.com/498560 - http://pastebin.com/498607
[01:36] <StringBlade> nalioth: clearly it's missing something it needs and doesn't know how to install it
[01:36] <nalioth> StringBlade: i'm out of ideas at this point.
[01:36] <michael> adding "1.13.10 (i386)" to version
[01:37] <mwe> wogi: this is getting over my head. maybe nailoth knows. it looks like it expects postgresql to be running I don't know if starting postgresql would help
[01:37] <tonisius> how do i not use sudo?
[01:37] <tonisius> i want to use the real su
[01:37] <StringBlade> nalioth: got it...sudo apt-get --reinstall python2.4-minimal
[01:37] <Seveas> StringBlade, did you install python2.4-dev?
[01:37] <tonisius> and what the hell is the password to get on as root?
[01:38] <athlon> tonisius, sudo su
[01:38] <mwe> wogi: is this breezy?
[01:38] <tonisius> no
[01:38] <tonisius> without using sudo
[01:38] <tonisius> is there a such thing?
[01:38] <athlon> sudo su then passwd
[01:38] <tonisius> no
[01:38] <tonisius> without using sudo
[01:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tonisius about root
[01:38] <wogi> mwe: yes breezy badger.
[01:38] <nalioth> tonisius: read your PM from ubotu
[01:38] <tonisius> nalioth: thank you
[01:38] <Seveas> wogi, is gforge-db-postgresql still running?
[01:38] <Seveas> wogi, if not: start it
[01:39] <Seveas> en then try the removal
[01:39] <wogi> Seveas: Welll.. I'm not really sure how to start it. It was a component of gforge. Which Never installed properly.
[01:39] <Seveas> wogi, ah
[01:39] <wogi> Seveas: I can try starting Postgres tho.
[01:39] <Seveas> wogi, please do
[01:39] <Seveas> I think that's the problem
[01:40] <wogi> seveas: alright its failing to start. Let me check the logs.
[01:40] <zblach> hi. quick question. my keyboard is not listed under keyboard layout options. can I add it somehow?
[01:40] <coz> hey guys
[01:41] <wogi> seveas: hmm.. tcp/ip connections must be enabled for ssl.... I wonder if it wants me to open up my firewall for postgres ports..
[01:41] <MattwestM>  all: ok, what do I need to put in the grub.conf file to get ubuntu 5.10 to boot. I just installed it and I am using Fedora's grub
[01:41] <coz> I have an old hp 820c deskjet printer that is recognized by ubuntu but will not work]
[01:41] <coz> any suggestions
[01:41] <fm-2> Good evening all!
[01:42] <zblach> regardless of what I try, i still have half a dozen dead keys
[01:42] <fm-2> I was wondering if someone could help me with a boot-up script. Mainly, at what S* is the filesystem (/proc/) mounted?
[01:43] <Seveas> fm-2, my guess is mountall.sh in rcS.d
[01:43] <zblach> and the kb is brand new
[01:43] <freak_> anyone know where the ubuntu equivelent of the xinitrc file is?
[01:44] <joanne> i pasted it over where you said nalioth, but i don't know what happens to it or to me then. do i go over there to see a response or hang out here?
[01:44] <nalioth> joanne: bring us the URL to the page you pasted it into
[01:44] <fm-2> Seveas: right, and S7xorg-common is what starts up X, right?
[01:44] <fm-2> (add a 0 after S7)
[01:45] <tonisius> nalioth: thanks for the link, now i can do things as needed
[01:45] <joanne> okay here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6862
[01:45] <freak_> anyone know where xinitrc is? the X11 startup list
[01:45] <theverant> so... ok... I'm trying out this Ubuntu thing... why did install not let me pick what packages I installed?
[01:45] <kameron> xfce is part of what package?
[01:45] <freak_> kameron, xfce4
[01:45] <bimberi> kameron: xfce4
[01:45] <kameron> freak_, thank you muchly
[01:45] <fm-2> theverant: Because Ubuntu only installs a base-system.
[01:46] <Seveas> kameron, xubuntu-desktop
[01:46] <theverant> uhh... how is Gnome games part of a base system though?
[01:46] <fm-2> theverant: You can use Synaptic to change your install (sudo synaptic)
[01:46] <wogi> Seveas: Hmm.. It looks like I need to have some SSH keys configured before it will start..
[01:46] <theverant> is that at install time?
[01:46] <wogi> Seveas: You're pretty sure this might be it?
[01:46] <theverant> or afterwards
[01:46] <fm-2> theverant: Beats me, I guess it's a 'basic operational system' :P
[01:46] <freak_> anyone know where xinitrc is?
[01:46] <kameron> !xubuntu-desktop
[01:46] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, kameron
[01:47] <navarone> joanne you are ona  mac right?
[01:47] <kameron> what's in that package other than just xfce, seveas?
[01:47] <bimberi> theverant: gnome is part of the default desktop install
[01:47] <Seveas> wogi, postgres should not need that...
[01:47] <fm-2> brb, gonna see if this mtrr fix works.
[01:47] <theverant> my other question was - why no root password?
[01:47] <nalioth> joanne: is this a new world mac?
[01:47] <bimberi> theverant: but not the "server" install
[01:47] <joanne> yes imac g3 333 tray loader
[01:47] <bimberi> ubotu tell theverant about root
[01:47] <Seveas> !tell theverant about root
[01:47] <nalioth> theverant: security reason
[01:47] <kameron> theverant, sevurity reasons.
[01:47] <wogi> Seveas: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/interactive/ssl-tcp.html
[01:47] <mwe> wogi: you can't dpkg --force-all --purge gforge-db-postgresql then dpkg --force-all --purge postgresql to get rid of it?
[01:47] <Seveas> theverant, read the wikipage ubotu sends
[01:47] <joanne> yes new world
[01:47] <theverant> ah ok, thanks!
[01:47] <Seveas> ah, ss*L* keys
[01:47] <nalioth> joanne: can you access os9 by holding the alt-option key and selecting the os9 partition?
[01:47] <Seveas> btw, I work with 7.4, not 8 :/
[01:47] <freak_> anyone know where the X11 startup program list is? (xinit)
[01:48] <wogi> Seveas: Thats where I'm getting the idea from, because the only thing in the postgres logs when it failed when I trie dto start it was: /usr/lib/postgresql/7.4/bin/postmaster: TCP/IP connections must be enabled for SSL
[01:48] <theverant> this channel is way more active than #mandriva (the last distro I tested out)
[01:48] <joanne> you mean when i start up?
[01:48] <fm-2> theverant: Welcome to Ubuntu :)
[01:48] <theverant> tanx
[01:48] <theverant> I'm still not %100 sure about linux
[01:49] <theverant> but after a month windows free it's hard to justify going back, despite the quirks I'm finding
[01:49] <grateful> what command do you issue to tell ubuntu where your dvd drive is?
[01:49] <mwe> wogi: you can't dpkg --force-all --purge gforge-db-postgresql then dpkg --force-all --purge postgresql to get rid of it?
[01:49] <fm-2> grateful: sudo mount?
[01:49] <wogi> mwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6863
[01:49] <bimberi> freak_: locate xinit    ?
[01:49] <navarone> thereverant> I still use windows for some things...but I check maila nd do most surfing in ubuntu now...feels safer
[01:49] <CosmoDad> what would I need to do to make another user be capable of shutting down the machine, going into standby, etc. without him being able to sudo to root?
[01:50] <freak_> bimberi, locate is a command?
[01:50] <grateful> but how do you create the link to your DVD
[01:50] <nalioth> joanne: yes, when the chime sounds, hold the alt-option key until you get boot options
[01:50] <bimberi> freak_: yes
[01:50] <theverant> navarone - dual boot is not an option for me
[01:50] <wogi> Seveas: heh ooops. yeah..
[01:50] <fm-2> grateful: It's there... after mount, it'll be in the /media/ folder
[01:50] <theverant> I want something fully functional or not at all
[01:50] <wogi> Seveas: Let me try to figure out how to make these key things, and i'll get back to you..
[01:50] <grateful> k thx
[01:50] <fm-2> grateful: /media/cdrom, I do believe
[01:50] <navarone> thereverant...then you have come to the right place for guidance then should you need it
[01:50] <MrRio> grateful: doesnt it do this 'automagicaly'?
[01:50] <mwe> wogi: what the heck. it's like a virus it wont go away :|
[01:50] <Seveas> wogi, probably not, I'm goging to sleep :)
[01:50] <joanne> okay i'll try that and come back thanks
[01:51] <grateful> checking
[01:51] <bimberi> CosmoDad: you can configure sudo to only work for particular commands - man sudoers (although google will be a better option)
[01:51] <wogi> Seveas: Probably not..?
[01:51] <wogi> Seveas: Oh, and thanks for the help, goodnight!
[01:51] <mwe> wogi: I know you can manually manipulate the apt database but I don't know how or if you dare do it
[01:51] <theverant> Is Dapper Drake stable?  It's what I've installed... I guess I'll find out the hard way :)
[01:52] <CodenameKT> !dapper
[01:52] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[01:52] <bimberi> theverant: no - you are now an alpha tester :)
[01:52] <wogi> mwe: :/ I really love this computer. except for this weird thing.. I could probbbably just live with postgres on there..but..urgh. kinda irritating huh.
[01:52] <theverant> so pretty much like running WinXP, eh
[01:52] <bimberi> lol
[01:52] <nics_> theverant: depends what you use it for, fine for me at present though flashplayer plugin for firefox nows causes it to crash
[01:52] <CosmoDad> bimberi: that wouldn't make the shutdown options show up in KDE's menu, unfortunately
[01:52] <theverant> nics_ - I want to use it for GIMP mostly
[01:53] <wogi> mwe: You mentioned someone you thought might have ideas..? nalioth ?
[01:53] <theverant> I would like to find decent video editing too, which I guess would be Cinelerra
[01:53] <theverant> other than that it's just gravy :)
[01:53] <nalioth> wogi: seveas is more knowledgable than i on this subject, but i agree with him.
[01:53] <nics_> theverant: has been fine for me with gimp, though just down screenshots and a few touchups, the thing to remember is that is is ALPHA, all bets are off :-)
[01:53] <bimberi> CosmoDad: no, it's about access to shell command.  Not sure about how _that's_ done sorry
[01:53] <theverant> nics_ -praps I should go back to last stable
[01:54] <theverant> which uses less resources - Gnome or KDE?
[01:54] <CosmoDad> bimberi: yeah I know, I just wanna restrict root right but enable hibernating. anyways, thx
[01:55] <nics_> theverant: always an option or just make sure you save all work often just in case, filesystems are rock solid but the odd app may suddenly break as things get upgraded, like flash in firefox at present
[01:55] <wogi> nalioth: mkay. But he's sleeping. :)
[01:55] <MrRio> theverant: my opinion is gnome, but the differences in resouces are negligable
[01:55] <bimberi> theverant: another video editor is kino
[01:55] <nalioth> wogi: he answered you with the same things i would have
[01:55] <MrRio> the clearlooks theme engine on gnome (ubuntu default) is lightning fast
[01:55] <theverant> bimberi - I don't think Kino will cut it for my uses :)
[01:56] <theverant> though I heard Cinelerra sux for capture, so I will probably use it for that
[01:56] <freak_> anyone know if you can pass terminal command in the fluxbox init file?
[01:56] <bimberi> theverant: k :)
[01:56] <theverant> bimberi - I like compositing and special effects :)
[01:56] <wogi> nalioth: to get postgres starting properly, and then to try removing it again, right..?
[01:56] <CodenameKT> freak_: i pass some term commands through the style
[01:56] <CodenameKT> freak_: the default style that loads
[01:57] <hikenboot> anyone know what the python-dev package is I did an sudo apt-cache search python  | grep -i dev and dont see one
[01:57] <nalioth> freak_: in your init "bash command_goes_here &"
[01:57] <navarone> theverant, do you have enough free space for that kind of work...for swap I mean?
[01:57] <freak_> CodenameKT, so like "bash pypanel &" ?
[01:58] <CodenameKT> freak_: yes that is what nalioth said
[01:58] <theverant> navarone - I have a WD Raptor for system, a 200GB, and a removable 250GB that I can swap in as many drives as I need for backup purposes... so... yes... I think... :)
[01:58] <bimberi> !info python-dev
[01:58] <ubotu> python-dev: (Header files and a static library for Python (default)), section python, is optional. Version: 2.4.2-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[01:58] <hikenboot> sorry mean glibc-dev what an idiot
[01:58] <CodenameKT> freak_: basically bash is letting it know it is term command and then u have the command plus & to let it know to keep reading rest of file
[01:58] <hikenboot> already found the python ones
[01:58] <freak_> CodenameKT, sorry, all i saw was red from xchat, didn't realize i was getting replies from 2 people
[01:58] <theverant> right now my actual swap size is not huge, but I can fix that if I need to
[01:58] <firebird619> I installed Ubuntu 5.10 about a month or so ago. I installed it over 5.04. Since then it seems that Ubuntu is slower than it was before the upgrade. Would it have been better to do a clean install of 5.10 rather than installing it over 5.04?
[01:59] <navarone> theverant, I'll be waiting to see your first feature...lol
[01:59] <CodenameKT> freak_: My reply sounded rude but yeah I was implying that it wasn't me with the correct answer :o)
[01:59] <freak_> CodenameKT, & really means run as background process :-p, heh
[01:59] <theverant> navarone - I make shorts :) you'll be waiting a while :)
[01:59] <holy_cow> btw dudes, ubuntu breezy is a smash success in our pilot.  just got back our reports, they only complaint at all has been that they arent' familiar with open office
[02:00] <holy_cow> for us we can just upgrade to ubuntu from windows and no ones the wiser essentially
[02:00] <holy_cow> yey for mark and the ubuntu team :)
[02:00] <navarone> theverant, animated or real life?
[02:00] <CodenameKT> freak_: I thought it was a continue or like an and so that it keeps reading the next lines like if I were to have two commands i needed to run
[02:00] <punkrockguy318> How can I change the usplash decoration from kubuntu to ubuntu?
[02:00] <theverant> navarone - real life in the past, but I'm working on a stop motion animation right now
[02:00] <theverant> it's a surreal character sketch
[02:01] <boxy> hey if i compile my own kernel say 2.6.15 i wont have a problem with the modules in the repos such as nvidia will i?
[02:01] <navarone> kinda like wallace and grommit...?
[02:01] <nalioth> firebird619: it really should make no difference (this isnt windows)
[02:01] <nalioth> boxy: you will probably have to recompile all modules
[02:01] <theverant> more like the Quay brothers... not so cutesie
[02:01] <freak_> CodenameKT, nah, its pretty cool, if you have 5 programs on startup, without the "&" with the first 4 it would just hang on each till you closed it, its basically multitasking
[02:02] <firebird619> nalioth: Yes, I know it isn't windows, it's much better than Windows, but I thought I would ask. Thanks
[02:02] <punkrockguy318> Will using a USB hub decrease USB preformance?
[02:02] <theverant> the protagonist sees Uncle Sam cut off Barbies face in a dark alley in one scene... :o !!
[02:02] <nalioth> firebird619: i've been running the same homedir since warty warthog, and havent had any trouble
[02:02] <boxy> nalioth, can i have apt-get do that and btw im trying to build a module and it fails at make before it even starts i take it im misisng some packages?
[02:03] <holy_cow> punkrockguy318, there is very little you can do to saturate a usb 2.0 port ... unless you are streaming video over it you don't have much to worry about
[02:03] <nalioth> boxy: have you gotten "build-essential" ?
[02:03] <joanne> can't get into 9 using alt/opt key at start up, selected the m and still go to folder with question mark. this morning i booted from os 9 cd. i do not have the disk selected as startup disk and in order to see anything on the desktop i had to mount the disk. it is a clean install and i have run the assistant for any apps. and more suggestions?
[02:03] <bimberi> theverant: LOL (but offtopic)
[02:03] <navarone> theverant, going for the heavy symbolism eh?
[02:03] <joanne> correction i have NOT run the assistant
[02:03] <B1zz> hello all i am trying to add a printer to my ubuntu system, how do i get the system to read the printer?
[02:04] <theverant> navarone - very much so.  All the character the protagonist comes across are actually extensions of his own persona
[02:04] <theverant> bimberi - sorry :)
[02:04] <nalioth> joanne: did the OS9 start before you did the yaboot modifications?
[02:05] <bimberi> theverant: np :)
[02:05] <navarone> Okay i am off to play Halo...if I see barbie I'll let her know you need her on set theverant ... : )
[02:05] <navarone> cya folkies take care
[02:06] <B1zz> hello all i am trying to add a printer to my ubuntu system, how do i get the system to read the printer?
[02:06] <joanne> yes, well actually i didn't go back into it after i installed 9. i just went ahead and installed ubuntu.
[02:06] <theverant> ooo it's the leaders debate... time to decide who to vote for in 14 days
[02:06] <bimberi> B1zz: System -> Administration -> Printing
[02:06] <nalioth> joanne: perhaps something went awry during the installation(s) ?
[02:07] <joanne> this is probably my 5th attempt to get both going together. the install of 9 proceed without incident? and so did ubuntu.
[02:07] <bobby> I ned to know how to install via graphics drivers under linux
[02:07] <nalioth> joanne: did you load os9 before you installed ubuntu?
[02:08] <bobby> is there a package for it?
[02:08] <joanne> yes
[02:08] <nalioth> joanne: did you run "sudo ybin" ?
[02:08] <joanne> yes, after i change the yaboot conf
[02:08] <Doomhammer> Why am I getting "Packet filtered" when attempting to ping some sites on the internet?
[02:08] <waxed> anyone here tried salome-platform an sucessfully installed it?...need som help here...
[02:09] <Doomhammer> i can ping www.google.com, but not www.newegg.com for example
[02:09] <nalioth> joanne: then you've puzzled me.
[02:09] <joanne> oh dear
[02:09] <bobby> Doomhammer, because the packet is filtered by a router along the way
[02:09] <joanne> i'm new to mac as well as linux
[02:09] <Doomhammer> bobby: as in my dsl gateway / router ?
[02:09] <nalioth> joanne: if you hold the alt-option key right after the chime, and don't have the option for os9 and linux, then perhaps the os9 partition got borked somehow?
[02:09] <bobby> Doomhammer, that is possible yes
[02:09] <joanne> should i go into 9 and let it be a startup disk?
[02:10] <wogi> Alright, thanks for all your help guys.. For some reason my postgres key and cert aren't really working so I can't start up pg but I need to get going for now. Thanks again!
[02:10] <Doomhammer> bobby: what else could it be ?
[02:10] <boxy> nalioth, yes build-essential is installed
[02:10] <nalioth> boxy: more information is needed (keep pastebin in mind)
[02:10] <bobby> Doomhammer, some isp's do it to avoid DDoS (a type of attack) attacks from happening from within their network
[02:10] <joanne> maybe start over. actually i'm waiting for 10.3 to arrive, and fear that's when trouble really starts
[02:10] <nalioth> joanne: i thought you said you couldnt get into os9?
[02:11] <boxy> oh wait nvm i see the prob sry Nakkel
[02:11] <boxy> nalioth, * sorry autocomplete
[02:11] <bobby> Doomhammer, if you got your dsl router preconfigured from your isp give them a ring and check it isn't a setting they have put in
[02:11] <joanne> i can get in using install disk
[02:11] <boxy> kay maybe i dont
[02:11] <boxy> wait
[02:11] <boxy> yeah
[02:11] <boxy> haha
[02:11] <Doomhammer> bobby: i got it preconfigured, but it's been reset and changed since...
[02:11] <nalioth> joanne: but that doesnt help your apparent yaboot prob
[02:11] <Doomhammer> bobby: i configured it myself, it's no longer using the factory defaults
[02:11] <Doomhammer> bobby: although, it is a piece of crap (actiontec) :O
[02:11] <boxy> hrm maybe not nalioth make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[02:11] <zblach> i know its a msft keyboard, but...
[02:11] <bobby> Doomhammer, then I suggest it isn't your router then - unless this started since you configured it yourself
[02:12] <Doomhammer> bobby: no, it didn't start, i haven't changed the config for months
[02:12] <joanne> i know i wish i could figure out what's going wrong, when it appears to be set up correctly
[02:12] <nalioth> boxy: you'll need linux-source and kernel-headers, moste likely
[02:12] <bobby> though it wouldn't be a linux problem unless you were running smoothwall or some thing... depends on your personal setup
[02:12] <Doomhammer> bobby: i'm thinking it might have something to do with my attempts to get networking running via QEMU
[02:12] <bobby> ask your isp is the easiest solution :)
[02:12] <P-NuT> Hey all can I ask questions about dapper drake here?
[02:12] <boxy> Package linux-source is a virtual package provided by:
[02:12] <boxy>   linux-source-2.6.12 2.6.12-10.25
[02:12] <bobby> Doomhammer, I've never had that problem before...and I've stuffed up networking many a time under qemu :P
[02:13] <boxy> which one i have 2.6.12-10 idk about .25 though?
[02:13] <Doomhammer> bobby: could "/sbin/ifconfig $1 <IP_ADDRESS>" be the culprit ?
[02:13] <robertj> P-NuT: this is _the_ place
[02:13] <P-NuT> LOL
[02:13] <P-NuT> ok
[02:13] <bobby> Doomhammer, does it happen for all things you ping in and outside your network?"
[02:13] <Doomhammer> bobby: no, as far as I can tell only www.newegg.com :S
[02:14] <bobby> Doomhammer, mmm confusing...out of ideas sorry - though I doubt it could be that ifconfig line
[02:14] <P-NuT> kickstart files and ubuntu, I want to make an CD that installs ubuntu and then installs a bunch of stuff via scripts. Can I include the kickstarat file on the CD?
[02:14] <nalioth> boxy: linux-source reflects your current kernel, iirc
[02:14] <boxy> 2.6.12-10-686
[02:14] <P-NuT> instead of using install CD and flopy with kickstart?
[02:14] <Doomhammer> bobby: yeah, it's almost certainly only newegg (<IP_ADDRESS>)... yahoo, google, dogpile, digg, and the verizon dns servers (<IP_ADDRESS> + <IP_ADDRESS>) all work :S
[02:15] <joanne> naioth, thanks for suggestions and letting me know what to do with paste bin etc. tomorrow is another day with new ideas maybe.
[02:15] <Doomhammer> bobby: maybe i'll try resetting eth0... :S
[02:15] <nalioth> joanne: yes it is
[02:15] <joanne> got to go for food, before it's time for indigestion. see again i hope
[02:15] <Doomhammer> bobby: nope, still the same thing
[02:16] <bobby> Doomhammer, just tried from here and I get packet filtered as well...I would suggest it is a routing issue or a anti-DDoS messaure on their end
[02:16] <Doomhammer> bobby: ah, good, so it's not my problem then. thanks :)
[02:16] <bobby> Doomhammer, I don't think it has anything to do with you :)
[02:16] <bobby> any time
[02:18] <p337> So, i got my sound and wireless drivers installed yesterday, they were working great.... i turn on my computer today............ neither works... why would that happen?
[02:19] <drcurl> Hello, I installed Ubuntu today and I'm impressed by the fact that everything works on my laptop :D
[02:19] <duckdown> Hey all.. I need to have /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build, but it doesn't exist on my new install.. what package do I need for those?
[02:19] <drcurl> But i have a few issues
[02:19] <bobby> drcurl, list them and we'll try to help :)
[02:19] <robotgeek> duckdown, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:19] <boxy> nalioth, what should i do about this i guess breezy installs gcc 4.0 by default but these modules want 3.4
[02:19] <duckdown> robotgeek: ahhh linux-headers.. perfect, thanks man
[02:20] <nalioth> boxy: install gcc-3.4
[02:20] <drcurl> Why is it so SLOW! I installed sarge wich have gnome 2.8. Under Deb, it uses about 80 megs of ram and was very fast, now, it's more 170 megs of ram and much slower to start and often slow down
[02:20] <boxy> i can have both and it wont cause a problem
[02:21] <nalioth> boxy: you can have as many versions of gcc as you like
[02:21] <nailbiter> boxy: On Ubuntu, /usr/bin/gcc is a symlink to gcc-4.0; installing gcc-3.4 won't change that at all.
[02:21] <boxy> ah
[02:21] <bobby> oh silly ubuntu...who released it without it having traceroute preinstalled?
[02:21] <nailbiter> boxy: Instead, you may have to set CC (or HOSTCC) to gcc-3.4 to specify a particular version
[02:21] <HaiKarate> boxy : yeah for totally homey! use CC environment variable to determine your preferred version and shizzle
[02:21] <boxy> na it works now
[02:22] <bobby> under debian we just change the gcc symlinks
[02:22] <Xenguy> bobby: I like mtr instead :-)
[02:22] <sambagirl> i am an kubuntu user now since i get the cds in the mail.  It's a wonderful environment.  It has revolutoinized things, but there is just 1 problem with ubuntu, there needs to be a video for to learn how to use things in it.  It's so frustrating to have to type so much in shells when you just dont have permissions on your own computer to move from 1 folder something to the other. So i am going to make available free like ubuntu simple
[02:22] <sambagirl> he end of month.
[02:22] <bobby> mtr? never tried it *does*
[02:22] <bimberi> bobby: there is tracepath
[02:22] <drcurl> In addition, OpenOffice start at least 4 time slower than under slackware :|
[02:22] <bobby> Xenguy, to bulky for the task we use it for
[02:22] <sambagirl> does this sound like a good idea or not?
[02:23] <Xenguy> bobby: heh
[02:23] <boxy> theres finally people in here that have given me intelligent answers <3 lol
[02:23] <Suki`> woah does exist.
[02:23] <bobby> tracepath is good though
[02:23] <adilson> i need some help to set my evolution to use a gmail account, can someone help me?
[02:23] <Suki`> okay, someone mind helping me with a compiling problem?
[02:23] <nailbiter> sambagirl: You want to make a set of training videos for Kubuntu?
[02:23] <bobby> boxy, this is ubuntu...don't expect people here to know much outside the gui lol :P
[02:23] <drcurl> bobby, is it nromal that ubuntu is so slow?
[02:23] <boxy> heh bobby
[02:23] <sambagirl> yes you need smomething this is to nuts otherwise.
[02:23] <bobby> drcurl, not at all...what cpu/ram do you have?
[02:24] <drcurl> centrino 1.4 ghz
[02:24] <drcurl> 256 ram
[02:24] <nailbiter> adilson: gmail provides POP-3 access; just create an Evolution account with that
[02:24] <boxy> speaking of which bobby i've been using the command prompt mostly anywas cause im use to it from gentoo and all this automation isn't helping. lo
[02:24] <sambagirl> needs to be for all parts, setting up samba, apache, how to move a directory, what is a permissoin how does it look what are simple commands. things nobody knows like me.
[02:24] <bobby> drcurl, do you ahve all of the gnome updates installed for ubuntu? and your graphics card setup correctly
[02:24] <zblach> google doesn't seem to have much in the way of help. found a review and some tech. stuff I couldn't understand
[02:25] <robotgeek> adilson: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/t41552-the-complete-guide-to-using-gmail-with-thunderbird-mozilla-mail-evolution-and-kmail.html first link on google
[02:25] <duckdown> Sorry, I'm also missing all of my compilers and such after a brand new install, is there a major apt-get install I have to do?
[02:25] <TokenBad> is it easy to setup vhost on ubuntu?
[02:25] <XIII> hi, how can i use broken filter?
[02:25] <boxy> I dont think ima be staying on ubuntu for much longer
[02:25] <drcurl> bobby, yes, I like the way that ubuntu works perfectly, but it is so much slower than slack or debian, mainly to start app, I can't accept that :|
[02:25] <bobby> boxy, not a fan of a lot of the ubuntu automation (makes it hard for me to help in here cause I do most things from the cli) though it is great for users like my mother and father ^_^ ...though I'm happy sticking with debian
[02:25] <duckdown> I only used the 650MB image
[02:25] <Riddell> sambagirl: you got kubuntu CDs?
[02:25] <nailbiter> duckdown: 'build-essential' is a virtual package that will pull in most of the build tools you need
[02:25] <sambagirl> nobody wants read those crpytic manuals or pdf files. anyway if anyone is interested you can email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:25] <sambagirl> cya
[02:25] <miketech> Hi
[02:25] <robotgeek> duckdown: what are you compiling?
[02:25] <boxy> bobby, heh
[02:25] <duckdown> nailbiter: odd, ive done build-essential..
[02:25] <boxy> bobby, true that
[02:25] <duckdown> robotgeek: ndiswrapper, and its complaining about not finding gcc-3.4 or something
[02:26] <rabidsnail> When I installed mysql I told it to be localhost-only, and now I want to allow all ip-addresses. How do I do this?
[02:26] <adilson> robotgeek,  thank you!
[02:26] <robotgeek> duckdown: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 then
[02:26] <drcurl> join #kubuntu
[02:26] <miketech> Just one question: I'm thinking about installing an ubuntu breezy on an amd 64 server system. Is there a 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[02:26] <nailbiter> duckdown: That's in the 'gcc-3.4' package. 'gcc-4.0' is the default on Ubuntu
[02:26] <drcurl> oups
[02:26] <bobby> drcurl, mmm it shouldn't be laggy, in fact gnome 2.12 should be faster than 2.4
[02:26] <Suki`> anyone know why proftpd won't seem to show up when I try "apt-get install proftpd" ?
[02:26] <boxy> bobby, im thinking about going back to gentoo or maybe trying archlinux or maybe ill take debian for a spin who knows.
[02:26] <duckdown> Ahhh great.  Thanks nailbiter , robotgeek .
[02:26] <duckdown> I better keep this client open :S
[02:26] <boxy> bobby, wanna sell me on debian :P
[02:26] <sambagirl> if nothing else someone needs to explain the wars between gnome and kde so people know what to loook for.
[02:26] <robotgeek> miketech: yes
[02:27] <drcurl> gnome 2.8 under debian bobby, only use 80 megs of ram once loaded and respond faster
[02:27] <bobby> boxy, vector, arch and debian etch/sid are very nice distros...and ubuntu is great for newer users (instead of that rpm mdk/rh/suse rubbish)
[02:27] <HaiKarate> Suki` : uhhh show up where?
[02:27] <Suki`> like
[02:27] <Mazin> How do I get amaroK to play mp3s?
[02:27] <Suki`> HaiKarate, I type apt-get install proftd and it says it couldn't find the package.
[02:27] <TokenBad> anyone know about how to do vhost on ubuntu?
[02:27] <miketech> and what is the difference? is every application working on the 64 bit machine?
[02:27] <p337> no one has a clue as to why my sound/wireless drivers would stop working after reboot?
[02:27] <boxy> thanks bobby, last question why debian over arch?
[02:27] <miketech> is there a different repository for application?
[02:28] <HaiKarate> ubotu: tell Suki` about repos
[02:28] <robotgeek> p337: lsmod and see if the drivers have been loaded
[02:28] <bobby> drcurl, sorry mate I haven't heard or seen anything even similar to your issue....and haven't had it on any of the laptops I've put ubuntu on (some that are lower speced than yours) ...maybe some one else can help
[02:28] <HaiKarate> Suki` : you need to enable additional repositories most likely...werd!
[02:28] <slashx1896> Hey all, how do i change my default web browser?
[02:28] <bobby> boxy, far more packages, erm...arch tends to be 'cleaner' cause it doesn't have years of dev behind it...but debian just feels better, less gritty
[02:28] <XIII> hi, how can i use broken filter?
[02:28] <liable> p337: sudo echo rt2500 >> /etc/modules
[02:28] <Doomhammer> miketech: i tried 64-bit ubuntu for a while, but flash player isn't availible, and the one that is availible to build from source did not work after a successful build
[02:28] <Doomhammer> miketech: plus, no WINE
[02:28] <nailbiter> Mazin: Are you installing KDE piecemeal (instead of a whole Kubuntu installation)?  If so, try the 'kdemultimedia' package; it'll pull in what you need to play MP3 audio and MPEG2 video
[02:28] <p337> robotgeek, ok.... let me boot linux then
[02:28] <miketech> so:
[02:29] <Suki`> HaiKarate, well, its listed as one of the packages on the website.
[02:29] <userasroot> hey when i add a new user it should create a /home/user directory right?
[02:29] <drcurl> bobby, maybe I'm just used to the speed of slack
[02:29] <p337> liable... i thought i was done!
[02:29] <Suki`> Which is why I was wondering
[02:29] <boxy> bobby, thanks i think ima check it out since linux has finally got my wifi down pat
[02:29] <miketech> Doomhammer, is the ubuntu 64 a different repository? all application precompiled for 64 bit?
[02:29] <robotgeek> miketech: apps compiled wirh 64 bit stuff, i presume. the repos are the same, apt handles it for you
[02:29] <bobby> boxy, any good at installing viafb graphics drivers by any chance? lol
[02:29] <Doomhammer> miketech: point is, there are a few apps scattered around that don't quite work... but for the most part, 64-bit is awesome
[02:29] <Doomhammer> miketech: no, same repository, but the applications are native 64-bit
[02:29] <p337> Liable, everything was working so well..... anyways... brb...
[02:29] <miketech> hm?
[02:29] <miketech> same repository?
[02:29] <liable> p337: all you need to do is modprobe it, i thought hotplug would do it for you..
[02:29] <MrPockets> in some of the Ubuntu screen shots ive seen, windows in the bachground appear to be transparent. is this possible in Ubuntu?
[02:29] <boxy> bobby, mmm i havn't used anything but nvidia but i can give it a whirrle where are you stuck at?
[02:29] <bobby> drcurl, debian is comparable to slackware speed wise, ubuntu is a bit slower (not sure why...more eyecandy? :P)
[02:29] <slashx1896> Anyone?? i wanna change my default browser.. i cant use firefox without some box popping up liek a wizard. but when i try to complete it it freazes
[02:29] <miketech> and apt can choose 32 bit or 64 bit?
[02:30] <timfrost> Suki`, add the universe repository
[02:30] <nailbiter> miketech: Yes, Ubuntu breezy has a 64-bit build.
[02:30] <miketech> and what about security updates? debian had some problems with security updates for the 64 bit versions
[02:30] <nailbiter> miketech: But it'll still run 32-bit applications
[02:30] <Suki`> timfrost, alrighty.
[02:30] <bobby> boxy, mmm just trying to use their install script to isntall the viafb.ko binary driver...but their script doesn't work under ubuntu and I can't fix it...I'm used to nvidia as well so I'm stuck
[02:30] <XIII> timfrost how can i use the "broken" filter??
[02:30] <bobby> oh well, 60hz for my eyes!
[02:30] <rabidsnail> How to I change mysql from localhost-only to all ip-addresses allowed
[02:30] <HaiKarate> Suki` : proftpd is in universe homey!
[02:30] <boxy> bobby, try m-a ?
[02:30] <nalioth> XIII: open synaptic and use it
[02:30] <bobby> ma?
[02:30] <slashx1896> ugg guess no 1 knows how
[02:31] <Doomhammer> nailbiter: from my 4 week or so experience with it, it will only if you use the one designed for x86_64... if you use the native k8 64 bit version, 32 bit apps will not run
[02:31] <boxy> bobby, type m-a in the command prompt just like that
[02:31] <XIII> nalioth how??
[02:31] <Suki`> HaiKarate, Thanks, just one more question and im done. How to apply a root password to mysql?
[02:31] <bobby> slashx1896, I've got no idea
[02:31] <miketech> so if i have an application, that does not work with 64 bit i can use the 32 bit version?
[02:31] <boxy> bobby, its a nice little tool for compiling modules
[02:31] <miketech> or doesn't it compile at all?
[02:31] <nalioth> XIII: click alt-f2 > gksudo synaptic
[02:31] <bobby> boxy, thx, I'll try it
[02:31] <nalioth> XIII: synaptic is pretty self-explanatory
[02:31] <bobby> slashx1896, found it
[02:32] <bobby> slashx1896, system -> prefferences -> prefered applications
[02:32] <userasroot> hey when i add a new user it should create a /home/user directory right?
[02:32] <hikenboot> why would i get permission denied when trying to compile with sudo ?
[02:32] <XIII> nalioth it doesn't tell anything
[02:32] <kameron> userasroot, yes, it should be
[02:32] <slashx1896> thanks bobby
[02:33] <wojt> how do you ssh in terminal?
[02:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell XIII about synaptic
[02:33] <wojt> i've used nutty for windows before
[02:33] <XIII> nalioth i mean it dosen't solve the issue
[02:33] <nalioth> XIII: i dont know what issue you have, i was just answering your 'broken packages' question
[02:34] <rabidsnail> wojt, if ssh is installed just type ssh and the url/ip address
[02:34] <bobby> lol boxy found the problem, the install script checks if it is suse, mdk, or fedora and if it isn't any of them exists
[02:34] <bobby> haha
[02:34] <boxy> bobby, haha nice
[02:34] <XIII> nalioth the problem is:
[02:34] <XIII> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/lilypond-data_2.6.3-9~breezy1_all.deb: subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[02:34] <XIII> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/lilypond_2.6.3-9~breezy1_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:34] <bobby> so much for clicking the 'generic linux' box
[02:34] <boxy> bobby, im lookin for my debian cd i thought i had a recent one but i can only find 3.0 r1
[02:34] <HaiKarate> Suki` : sudo mysqladmin -u root password "your_password_for_root"  werd!
[02:34] <XIII> i can't install or remove this songwriter
[02:34] <nalioth> XIII: in a terminal, type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[02:35] <bobby> boxy, even if you had sarge it is still a huge 500meg+ update to etch or sid
[02:35] <XIII> i did nalioth and also it didn't solve it
[02:35] <boxy> bobby, huh?
[02:35] <Suki`> HaiKarate, thanks. Just need to check a few more things to make sure I don't have anymore problems.
[02:35] <boxy> bobby, is sarge their 3.1 release?
[02:35] <bobby> boxy, since sarge was released they have updated a lot of the distro
[02:35] <HaiKarate> Suki` : hain't no thang! tippi tai!
[02:35] <bobby> I think so
[02:36] <userasroot> my install fubared   i can't creat a user that has a /home directory, help me please
[02:36] <bobby> but since then they have moved to x.org and new versions of gnome and most other apps
[02:36] <Suki`> o.O
[02:36] <wojt> Can you change the resolution to higher than 1024x768 although you did not "mark" the higher resolutions when installing?
[02:36] <apokryphos> wojt: yes
[02:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell wojt about fixres
[02:36] <userasroot> my / and /home are on two different dirs
[02:36] <userasroot> rather partitions
[02:36] <bobby> wojt, yes, update the configure file ...though I'm sure ubuntu has a nice gui way to do it
[02:36] <boxy> bobby, eh 5 mb down wouldn't take long to update
[02:36] <apokryphos> userasroot: you can't create a user that has a home directory?
[02:36] <hikenboot> to put it another way i get unable to execute gcc: Permission denied
[02:37] <hikenboot> when executing a script as root
[02:37] <boxy> its just i dont wanna have to take all my hardware downstairs so i can plug into the network cause im on wifi right now
[02:37] <nics_> wojt: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[02:37] <bobby> boxy, 500meg is my guess
[02:37] <hikenboot> is it possible it changes user inside the script
[02:37] <bobby> dist-upgrade
[02:37] <boxy> plus i have no blank cd's
[02:37] <mkyb14> beep don't do it
[02:37] <userasroot> apokryphos, yeah i keep trying to and i can't change the permissions with chmod or chown
[02:37] <mkyb14> is there a media player for mp3s that can play over my lan here at home to stream my mp3s from my windows machine to my linux box...xmms and beep don't do it
[02:37] <boxy> bobby, i could do that but i'd have all this mess from ubuntu on here wouldn't i?
[02:37] <XIII> nalioth it even prevents me from installing/removing any other application
[02:37] <boxy> bobby, is there a way to make this strip back down to the base install then do that/
[02:38] <bobby> boxy, it is probably best to get sarge and then do a fresh install and upgrade to etch or sid
[02:38] <apokryphos> userasroot: you're going to have to describe the exact situation. / and /home are on different partitions, right. Now, what/why are you trying to chmod/chown anything?
[02:38] <bobby> boxy, it wouldn't work to well...
[02:38] <boxy> haha
[02:38] <boxy> thats what i thought
[02:38] <wojt> nics_: "x-org server is not installed"
[02:38] <wojt> :/
[02:38] <boxy> which is stable and unstable for debian bobby?
[02:38] <bobby> though you probably could for a bit of fun :)
[02:38] <powderfinger> mkybl4 xmms will do it if you mount a samba share
[02:38] <mkyb14> i have one mounted
[02:38] <boxy> bobby, fun is trying to fix your system after apt-get dep's screw up.
[02:39] <bobby> boxy, stable = sarge, testing = etch, unstable = sid, experimental = experimental
[02:39] <lws> excuse me, I'm new to ubuntu and i'm trying to setup cups.
[02:39] <Obywans> sal all
[02:39] <Obywans> wenas
[02:39] <rabidsnail> how do I change the allowed ip-addresses in mysql to all ip's
[02:39] <powderfinger> And you're sure it won't play?
[02:39] <p337> Liable, I do not have permissions to enable either network connection
[02:39] <bobby> I run a mixture of sid and experimental...though I recommend others use etch and maybe sid if they are brave :P
[02:39] <mkyb14> i go to places > connect to server > windows share
[02:39] <kameron> why when i 'startx -- :1' from virtual console, it doesn't work, but when i do it from a command line terminal, it works/
[02:39] <boxy> sid is "stable" for the most part for a desktop isn't it?
[02:39] <userasroot> apokryphos, the installation didn't allow me to create a user  some problem with passwords
[02:39] <mkyb14> yea i can drag it to the list but it just won't play
[02:39] <powderfinger> No you probably need to do a proper mount
[02:39] <liable> p337: eh? i dunno how to help you with the gui stuff.
[02:39] <apokryphos> userasroot: huh? :/
[02:39] <mkyb14> proper?
[02:39] <userasroot> so i skipped that and set up the system with root
[02:39] <lws> I'm wondering why I /dev/usb missing
[02:40] <powderfinger> !mount
[02:40] <ubotu> mount is probably the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[02:40] <apokryphos> userasroot: and now you can't add a new user? Why?
[02:40] <lws> and also, why is configuring cups through the web interface disabled?
[02:40] <p337> liable.... how do i enable network connections from console then?
[02:40] <apokryphos> userasroot: sudo adduser username
[02:40] <bobby> boxy, yes, myself and several friends run it as our desktops, haven't had any broken package or dependancy problems for months
[02:40] <liable> p337: did you load the module, or reboot after adding it to the file?
[02:40] <boxy> bobby, that's good
[02:40] <p337> liable, what do you mean load the module?
[02:40] <bobby> boxy, though I'm using experimental for gnome 2.12...but I think that moved to sid last night cause I noticed a bunch of new gnome updates
[02:40] <mkyb14> i'll give that a shot.... i'm doing this over a lan though not a hd in my computer
[02:41] <liable> p337: remember doing modprobe rt2500?
[02:41] <bobby> either way gnome 2.12 will be in sid in the next two weeks or so
[02:41] <boxy> bobby, eh i've about had it with gnome.
[02:41] <powderfinger> That's what samba is for.   :P
[02:43] <powderfinger> Sorry link!
[02:43] <wojt> kb
[02:43] <wojt> that is
[02:43] <userasroot> o i get a chown 1001:1001 opperation not permitted
[02:43] <boxy> bobby, no worries im about to hit up debia anyways lol
[02:43] <boxy> debian*
[02:43] <liable> p337: try dhclient ra0
[02:43] <bobby> :P
[02:43] <lws> Is the cups binary modified on ubuntu?  How do i re-enable the web administration features?
[02:43] <bobby> hope you like it
[02:43] <userasroot> with adduser
[02:43] <p337> liable, whats weird is it doesn't even do my ethernet connection now
[02:43] <apokryphos> userasroot: cat /etc/fstab|grep home    ...gives?
[02:44] <Jason> i have  a odd question for you all linux pros
[02:44] <alphy> anybody know if there is a good chess game for linux somewhere?
[02:44] <tech9iner> 1st ever install not bringing joy here.. messed up damned default non root gibberish and cannot reset root/default sudo user password .. spent last 2 hours googling and trying knoppix resets blah blah.. all to no avail..
[02:44] <boxy> bobby, i think ima just do a network install
[02:44] <bobby> boxy, the debian help channel has a lot of users who are good at troubleshooting advanced problems
[02:44] <apokryphos> alphy: apt-cache search chess
[02:44] <powderfinger> gnuchess?
[02:44] <bobby> boxy, cleanest way
[02:44] <Jason> what is diff between  ubuntu linux and  other linux like mepis
[02:44] <liable> p337: strange. check your router and make sure dhcp server is on.
[02:44] <bobby> gnome
[02:44] <bobby> gone*
[02:44] <bobby> lol
[02:44] <p337> liable  it is, cause i am using it right now
[02:44] <tech9iner> i could have completely reinstalled entire os in less time..
[02:44] <boxy> bobby, im sure couldn't be worst then this ;) heh i made a post on ubuntuforums, that was a joke trying to get a reply
[02:45] <tech9iner> quite the culture shock/learning curve to change from root/user os chums..
[02:45] <powderfinger> mkybl4 You still listening
[02:45] <HaiKarate> Jason : all the other Linux distributions suffer from the gum diseases known as <peter_griffin>GINGIVITIS!</peter_griffin> ;-)
[02:45] <Suki`> o.O;;
[02:45] <boxy> bobby, do you have aim?
[02:45] <userasroot> i get dev blah home VFAT
[02:45] <userasroot> apokryphos,
[02:45] <apokryphos> userasroot: why is your /home on vfat? :/
[02:45] <tech9iner> does any bloke present have a clue.. aside from entire reinstallation for another 2 hours please?
[02:46] <slashx1896> What are .class files?
[02:46] <zblach> HaiKarate, isn't that what the dreated plac users get?
[02:46] <tech9iner> on how to reset sudo password or ?? other work around please .. thanks
[02:46] <boxy> slashx1896, compiled java files
[02:46] <Jason> fact resons or are all linux the same
[02:46] <apokryphos> userasroot: not sure if that's entirely supported. Might well be fine; might not be.
[02:46] <zblach> slashx1896, compiled java files
[02:46] <slashx1896> hmm
[02:46] <apokryphos> userasroot: and the blah blah is important info 8). Always good to paste.
[02:46] <powderfinger> How rude is that?  You ofer someone advice, then he f*cks of without a word.
[02:46] <msh> hu
[02:46] <msh> hi
[02:46] <userasroot> i am trying too set up a dual boot for my buddy but i think i will
[02:46] <HaiKarate> tech9iner : what's a bloke, homey? it sounds like a dirty word! werd!
[02:46] <bimberi> tech9iner: can you log in?
[02:46] <p337> liable i think i am gonna format those partitions and start from the beginning
[02:47] <mkyb14> sayss that it can't resolve mount point
[02:47] <Doomhammer> slashx1896: if you're trying to run them, java <class name without the .class>
[02:47] <liable> p337: err, i dont think thats quite neccesary
[02:47] <powderfinger> Create a directory
[02:47] <apokryphos> userasroot: so why would you want /home as vfat? You can dualboot without that.
[02:47] <boxy> bobby?
[02:47] <slashx1896> i dont want to run 1
[02:47] <slashx1896> i have a folder with a whole bunch of em
[02:47] <powderfinger> eg.  "mkdir /mnt/somedirname"
[02:47] <Doomhammer> slashx: any idea what they're for ? :P
[02:47] <userasroot> yeah it must not be fully supported
[02:47] <tech9iner> bimberi: thanks.. yes i have, on others advice here created a new user to login..
[02:47] <slashx1896> yeah..
[02:47] <slashx1896> a program
[02:47] <slashx1896> lol
[02:47] <slashx1896> a java based program
[02:47] <userasroot> thanks
[02:47] <slashx1896> or something..
[02:47] <bimberi> tech9iner: but no sudo access?
[02:47] <userasroot> i go run fdisk
[02:47] <p337> liable... its just if i cant get it to even connect to ethernet.. i cant even get help
[02:47] <shinu> hey
[02:47] <Doomhammer> slashx1896: well i could've told you that lol
[02:47] <userasroot> thankyou
[02:48] <slashx1896> the readme type file said where the main class folder is, and then said Main-Class will be added automatically by build
[02:48] <slashx1896> lol
[02:48] <liable> p337: is your etherenet called eth0?
[02:48] <zblach> would another channel be better for ubuntu hardware support?
[02:48] <apokryphos> zblach: nope
[02:48] <p337> liable i think so
[02:48] <liable> p337: from a terminal run, sudo ifup eth0
[02:48] <zblach> slashx1896, best bet: try this. javac *.
[02:48] <zblach> well, no .
[02:48] <zblach> but meh
[02:48] <slashx1896> o.O
[02:48] <slashx1896> lol
[02:49] <Wilfred-_-Laurie> when i install something with synaptic packet manager.... should it not create a launcher in my applications shortcuts
[02:49] <michael> Last thing I'll annoy you about
[02:49] <michael> http://pastebin.com/498686
[02:49] <p337> liable.. lol alright let me reboot
[02:49] <liable> p337: if that fails, run , ifconfig eth0 up && dhclient eth0
[02:49] <tech9iner> nay bimberi .. i buggered the password during install of u 5.0.4 ;[.. and since ubuntu decided to not offer root access.. /me bays to the fckg moon..
[02:49] <shinu> for midnight commander, how do i change the default program used for opening say.. a .avi file?
[02:49] <bimberi> tech9iner: try booting into recovery mode - "adduser <user> admin", then that account should have sudo access
[02:49] <zblach> p337, beware that combination!
[02:49] <Doomhammer> wilfred: it does for most apps, but not all the time... if it didn't create one, look in /usr/bin and /usr/sbin
[02:49] <liable> zblach: ??
[02:49] <michael> o, and how do i configure the network interfaces that startup?
[02:49] <timfrost> Wilfred-_-Laurie, only if the application packager included the desktop file that is needed
[02:49] <powderfinger> mk How we doin?
[02:49] <zblach> p337, liable, often when my network dies, i try that combination
[02:49] <slashx1896> doomhammer, what it means the main class will automaticale be added by build?
[02:49] <bimberi> Wilfred-_-Laurie: not for all apps unfortunately, there's always Applications -> System Tools -> Applications Menu Editor
[02:49] <blood_> how can i play me some mp3's
[02:50] <blood_> ?
[02:50] <p337> zblach beware?
[02:50] <zblach> p337, liable, and when I do, 9/10 times, my computer locks up totally
[02:50] <bimberi> ubotu tell blood_ about mp3
[02:50] <powderfinger> blood xmms
[02:50] <ruben> wo bin ich
[02:50] <Doomhammer> slashx: i don't have THAT much experience with java, but I believe it means it will be automatically packaged in a JAR
[02:50] <zblach> so, watchout
[02:50] <p337> zblach well i don't have much to lose
[02:50] <p337> but thanks
[02:50] <liable> zblach: then your computer is stuffed..
[02:50] <slashx1896> well it came with a jar file that i extracted
[02:50] <zblach> p337, kk. i just found it irritation
[02:50] <Doomhammer> slashx: ah the jar was what you were supposed to run
[02:50] <mkyb14> smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[02:50] <mkyb14> smbmnt failed: 1
[02:50] <tech9iner> bimberi .. and thanks muchly guv ;] ] ..
[02:50] <mkyb14> wtf is taht
[02:50] <zblach> liable, what better place to get unstuffed? so i used to think
[02:51] <bimberi> tech9iner: not yet, wait till it works :)
[02:51] <zblach> mkyb14, its cockney english
[02:51] <kestasworkacc> anyone know how you switch chans in irssi?
[02:51] <mkyb14> what
[02:51] <powderfinger> Mount it a s root
[02:51] <slashx1896> anyone here good with java and can help me out?
[02:51] <chihuong> help me
[02:51] <liable> zblach: it is the *only* way i bring up my infaces, and never locks my computer up.
[02:51] <slashx1896> chihuong, what u need?
[02:51] <apokryphos> kestas: alt+1/2/3/4/5 etc etc
[02:51] <kestasworkacc> apokryphos: thanks
[02:51] <zblach> slashx1896, i've got 2 years in java, just HS stuff, but maybe
[02:51] <HaiKarate> mkyb14 : sudo mount -t smbfs ...  werd!
[02:51] <Doomhammer> slashx: the jar is like an exe... it's the executable portion of a java application... e.g. java -jar something.jar
[02:51] <norcen> having a problem booting the ubuntu cd on my hp latop, can anyone offer help?
[02:51] <Jason> well my boss want me to pic a ez to use linux for these older pc so he can sell them
[02:52] <tech9iner> aye that bimberi .. indeed lol
[02:52] <zblach> norcen, not use hp? lol
[02:52] <chihuong> i can't intalls x-unikey on ubuntu
[02:52] <Jason> it came down 3 disros
[02:52] <slashx1896> doomhammer, its meant to be extracted though rite?
[02:52] <lws> I would really appreciate some kind of information about the cups package included with ubuntu.
[02:52] <norcen> zblach: heh
[02:52] <Jason> ubunttu  mepis  and pclinux
[02:52] <_jason> ubotu, tell Jason about enter
[02:52] <Doomhammer> slashx: not normally, unless you have some need to look at the actual binaries
[02:52] <ruben> i seem to have installed breezy correctly :)
[02:52] <Korupt> anybody know if the dapper updates today are safe to run...... ?
[02:52] <Wilfred-_-Laurie> thanks Doomhammer
[02:52] <slashx1896> oh
[02:52] <tech9iner> misfit_toy: whaszzzuuuuuppp ;] ] .. pokey chap
[02:52] <ruben> so
[02:52] <Doomhammer> Wilfred: no problem :)
[02:52] <slashx1896> doomhammer, what do u do with it then?
[02:53] <Doomhammer> slashx: run it ... java -jar the_jar_name.jar
[02:53] <jansel001> hey
[02:53] <michael> !help http://pastebin.com/498686 <- problem listed here
[02:53] <jansel001> Aquien que hable en espa;o
[02:53] <_jason> !es
[02:53] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:53] <HaiKarate> !es
[02:53] <norcen> i'm getting an 'image checksum error' when booting from ubuntu install cd, help anyone?
[02:53] <jansel001> Necesito Ayuda
[02:53] <Doomhammer> slashx: unless it just contains class files that are meant to be imported by another jar program... it can be used similarly to C header files, but i don't think that's what yours is for
[02:53] <ruben> so no questions for you, all :)
[02:53] <Doomhammer> slashx: you're not a java developer, are you ?
[02:53] <mkyb14> to login as root is just su
[02:53] <mkyb14> then password
[02:53] <HaiKarate> blootbot indeed. werd!
[02:54] <somerville32> I'm back
[02:54] <slashx1896> Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from jKaiUI
[02:54] <Doomhammer> jason: i'd try ubuntu, debian, maybe fedora, perhaps mandrake
[02:54] <Doomhammer> jason: if you want an easy linux
[02:54] <ruben> boy o
[02:54] <slashx1896> ahh
[02:54] <slashx1896> forgot to do .jar
[02:54] <slashx1896> ;)
[02:54] <_jason> ubotu, tell mkyb14 about root
[02:54] <powderfinger> I always do "su -" then password
[02:54] <benplaut> if all computers on a network have software firewalls, is it safe to turn off the router DoS firewall? none are servers, and i think it's slowing down the internet
[02:54] <powderfinger> !root
[02:54] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:54] <powderfinger> Aggh, I'm on Debian
[02:54] <apokryphos> powderfinger: of course, however, sudo is the recommended method.
[02:54] <p337> liable: well the ethernet worked this time when i booted
[02:54] <Jason> yes ez linux would be vary nice    doomkaper
[02:55] <mkyb14> ha ok that did it
[02:55] <powderfinger> Mounted?
[02:55] <ruben>  the sound of ubuntu gives trouble
[02:55] <liable> p337: interesting..
[02:55] <slashx1896> doomhammer, ok i did that and a whole bunch of stuff popped up and it loks like 1 error
[02:55] <mkyb14> but its bugg like its cutting in and out
[02:55] <p337> liable: so i can work on the wireles though
[02:55] <powderfinger> Are you wireless?
[02:55] <Doomhammer> slashx: a stack trace ?
[02:55] <mkyb14> yea 54g
[02:55] <slashx1896> whats a stack trace? :P
[02:55] <powderfinger> Signal Strength?
[02:55] <liable> p337: you cant turn it on through the gui?
[02:55] <Doomhammer> slashx: it's java's way of handling errors (exceptions)
[02:55] <Jason> doomhammer   ez disro be good thing
[02:55] <Doomhammer> slashx: do this for me, java --version
[02:56] <p337> liable: it isnt giving me an ip address... but it sees it and has full signal strength
[02:56] <Doomhammer> slashx: if it's the GNU java interpretor, you should get the official JRE from http://java.sun.com
[02:56] <mkyb14> good/exelent.. i'm on a ethernet bridge
[02:56] <liable> p337: paste your /etc/network/interfaces file to a paster
[02:56] <slashx1896> java version "1.4.2"
[02:56] <slashx1896> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[02:56] <p337> liable: ok
[02:56] <mkyb14> wet54g by linksys
[02:56] <jansel001_> HOLA
[02:56] <Doomhammer> jason: look here: www.ubuntulinux.org
[02:56] <jansel001_> que tal
[02:56] <powderfinger> I would suspect you have wireless problems
[02:56] <apokryphos> !es
[02:56] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:56] <jansel001_> Necesito AYuda
[02:56] <jansel001_> PLEASE AYUDA
[02:57] <liable> jansel001_: /join #ubuntu-es
[02:57] <slashx1896> doomhammer, thats what i got.. then somethin about warranty
[02:57] <Doomhammer> slashx: yes, that's the gnu java interpretor... download the JRE from http://java.sun.com
[02:57] <UncleD> Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org (It fails every time on bootup) - anyone have this problem? How can I fix it
[02:57] <jansel001_> ayuda
[02:57] <mkyb14> hm i could do a cross over cable
[02:57] <jansel001_> help
[02:57] <eXSiR> hi may i ask a question, why cant i join #debian
[02:57] <eXSiR> * Cannot join #debian (You are banned).
[02:57] <Doomhammer> slashx: i haven't been able to get java applications compiled with the sun compile to run with the gnu interpretor
[02:57] <eXSiR> it says u are banned
[02:57] <jansel001_> aquien que sepa hablar espanol
[02:57] <jansel001_> necesito ayuda
[02:57] <eXSiR> ??
[02:57] <eXSiR> any idea
[02:57] <apokryphos> jansel001: English only in here
[02:57] <jansel001_> con mi ubuntu
[02:57] <liable> eXSiR: /msg an op and ask
[02:57] <jansel001_> I no can speak in english
[02:57] <jansel001_> Sorry
[02:57] <eXSiR> i dont who are ops
[02:57] <powderfinger> Try that to eliminate potential wireless SNAFUs
[02:57] <norcen> is there an alternate bootable cd image like with suse that i can use? i can't seem to boot to the disk (image checksum error)
[02:57] <apokryphos> jansel001: then join the respective channel
[02:58] <apokryphos> eXSiR: what is the problem?
[02:58] <p337> liable: http://pastebin.com/498699
[02:58] <mkyb14> there shouldn't be any problems with the wireless
[02:58] <p337> doesnt seem to say much
[02:58] <eXSiR> i cant join #debian
[02:58] <jansel001_> help me my ubunto i want account of user my ubuntu 5.10
[02:58] <chihuong> thank you, but i can't do it
[02:58] <mkyb14> hm
[02:58] <liable> eXSiR: try dondelecaro or caphuso (fairly often on channel)
[02:58] <Doomhammer> jansel: No soy seguro all soy un canal espaol.
[02:58] <eXSiR> oke liable
[02:58] <jansel001_> a want root user recovery password
[02:58] <apokryphos> eXSiR: that is off-topic.
[02:58] <michael> what is the lo network interface for??? and can I comment it out of the /etc/network/interfaces
[02:58] <Doomhammer> jansel: Si estoy utilizando espaol incorrecto, apesadumbrado, estoy utilizando Babelfish. :P
[02:59] <jansel001_> jansel
[02:59] <powderfinger> Move closer to the access point and see if things improve
[02:59] <Toma-> !es
[02:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:59] <jansel001_> aquien que hable espanol que pueda ayudarme
[02:59] <jansel001_> mi email es este
[02:59] <liable> p337: is your ap still open?
[02:59] <slashx1896> doomhammer, so what am i looking for at the site
[02:59] <Obywans> !ro
[02:59] <ubotu> Obywans: I haven't a clue
[02:59] <jansel001_><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:59] <p337> liable: ap?
[02:59] <Doomhammer> slashx: here, i'll find you a link
[02:59] <jansel001_> mmgbo
[02:59] <mkyb14> the device says 100%
[02:59] <liable> p337: access point
[02:59] <p337> liable: oh yeah
[02:59] <Obywans> !op
[02:59] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Obywans
[02:59] <Doomhammer> slashx: here's the page: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
[03:00] <Doomhammer> slashx: you want the JRE 5.0 Update 6
[03:00] <UncleD> apokryphos: When I bootup, synchronizing ntpdate to ntp.ubuntulinux.org fails (and it takes 3 minutes to fail at that) - what can i do?
[03:00] <apokryphos> Obywans: ??
[03:00] <Toma-> UncleD, disable it
[03:00] <liable> p337: add these lines to your interfaces file.
[03:00] <scragglybeard> ok, so my homey ubotu no longer recognizes the bang syntx now? werd?
[03:00] <apokryphos> UncleD: or press Ctrl+C to cancel it at the time
[03:00] <liable> p337: actually /j #flood
[03:00] <powderfinger> Well if you're ruling out connectivity I don't know what other probs you migh be having
[03:00] <Doomhammer> UncleD: you could also configure ntpdate to sync with a different server, although I don't know how to do that
[03:01] <userasroot> hey how do i format a partition ext3?
[03:01] <UncleD> Toma-: disable it by removing the file from rcS.d?
[03:01] <Doomhammer> userasroot: mke2fs -j /dev/hda1 (replace /dev/hda1 with the partition you want)
[03:01] <slashx1896> doomhammer, whats the rpm 1?
[03:01] <apokryphos> userasroot: mkfs.ext3 /dev/somepartition
[03:01] <Doomhammer> slashx: get the self extracting one
[03:01] <Toma-> UncleD, Id say use update-rc.d, but alot of people will say to use chmod. so im stayiong out of this.
[03:02] <slashx1896> they both are
[03:02] <slashx1896> except one is a rpm self extracting
[03:02] <Doomhammer> slashx: don't get the RPM, get the .bin
[03:02] <p337> liable: ok... now what?
[03:02] <mkyb14> yea... like most things i'm running into problems with linux
[03:02] <scragglybeard> +1 update-rc.d werd! proper!
[03:02] <slashx1896> there both .bin but i udnerstand lol
[03:02] <p337> liable was #flood a comment
[03:02] <Doomhammer> slashx: okay lol sorry
[03:02] <powderfinger> It's worth persevering, but only U can decide
[03:02] <slashx1896> its ok lol
[03:02] <liable> p337: /j #flood
[03:03] <Doomhammer> slashx: once it's downloaded, move it to /usr/local (or wherever you want to install it)
[03:03] <Doomhammer> slashx: and then do "sudo sh <name of .bin archive>"
[03:03] <Toma-> last time i said to use update-rc.d, about 5 debain users started biting my head off saying chmod is easier
[03:03] <p337> liable: Ok, done
[03:04] <somerville32> Ubuntu didn't detect my sound card by default but modprove sb finds it, what do I have to do to make it detect it everytime I log on?
[03:04] <tech9iner> hmmm... k mates.. bimberi ;] ] .. useradd <username> admin no worky?
[03:04] <Toma-> somerville32, is it an old ISA card?
[03:04] <starscalling> i need an ultralight browser for openbox w/o too many gnome dependancies
[03:04] <somerville32> Toma: I think so
[03:04] <Doomhammer> starscalling: links2 is very light weight... but it's text based :P
[03:04] <scragglybeard> starscalling : lynx! hype!
[03:04] <liable> p337: no, your not there..
[03:04] <UncleD> Toma-: sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove | sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate | cd /etc/rcS.d ; sudo mv S51ntpdate _S51ntpdate | Which one?
[03:05] <tech9iner> sitting at shell prompt via rescue mode on install cd of u 5.0.4..
[03:05] <Toma-> somerville32, yeh i think SB = soundblaster 16 right?
[03:05] <liable> p337: type /j #flood in your irc client
[03:05] <starscalling> yeah i want a gui .. guess ill go with mozilla-browser for that
[03:05] <somerville32> Toma: I'm pretty sure.
[03:05] <p337> liable: haha ohh
[03:05] <tech9iner> twould seem adduser doesnt like admin as command typed please
[03:05] <Doomhammer> starscalling: i like firefox
[03:05] <mkyb14> how do you kill a process
[03:05] <Toma-> UncleD, id like to say "sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove", but ill probably get alot of complains from debain users :)
[03:05] <mkyb14> like xmms
[03:05] <bimberi> tech9iner: adduser (not useradd) - but the intention was to make that account a member of the admin group - you could confirm that by typing "groups" in a terminal
[03:05] <tech9iner> aha.. may be relative eh bimberi ..
[03:05] <Doomhammer> starscalling: there's another tiny gui browser called "ijini", but i belive it's windows only... been so long since i used it, might want to google it
[03:05] <tech9iner> lol
[03:06] <mkrenz> I'm writing an ssh document and I don't have Ubuntu installed anywhere right now.  Can someone tell me if ssh-agent starts automatically when you login to X from gdm?
[03:06] <Toma-> somerville32, ok, well you could add "sb" to your /etc/modules file (let me check a moment)
[03:06] <powderfinger> Just close it
[03:06] <mkyb14> can't
[03:06] <tech9iner> alas.. i look damned good in color 'dumkopf' eh mates.. lol
[03:06] <mkyb14> it's froze
[03:06] <powderfinger> Why?
[03:06] <mkyb14> i dunno
[03:06] <powderfinger> !kill
[03:06] <ubotu> methinks kill is a command for getting rid of unwanted processes, usage: kill [-signal]  PID.  Signals are numbers: -15 is general exit, -9 forces quit.  See manual page for more.
[03:06] <norcen> can anyone offer an alternative to installing ubuntu (other than booting off the CD)
[03:06] <Toma-> somerville32, yeh. add sb to /etc/modules
[03:06] <starscalling> o:
[03:06] <starscalling> thanx Doomhammer
[03:06] <Toma-> mkrenz, nope
[03:06] <starscalling> ill check that out
[03:06] <Doomhammer> starscalling: no problem :)
[03:07] <starscalling> ;)
[03:07] <bimberi> norcen: various methods described at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[03:07] <norcen> ty bimberi
[03:07] <mkyb14> nope
[03:07] <slashx1896> doomhammer, it wont let me move it to /usr/local
[03:07] <bimberi> norcen: np :)
[03:07] <starscalling> how about an ultralight text editor?
[03:07] <starscalling> [gui]
[03:07] <Toma-> vi
[03:07] <starscalling> not vi
[03:07] <starscalling> i dont get along with that one
[03:07] <Toma-> im sure theres a gui vi :/
[03:07] <Toma-> neither
[03:07] <starscalling> there is
[03:07] <_jason> gvim
[03:07] <starscalling> i dont like vi !_!
[03:07] <starscalling> any others?
[03:08] <_jason> starscalling, whats wrong with gedit
[03:08] <mkrenz> Toma-: Really?  I'm surprised.  Especially since Debian does.
[03:08] <starscalling> im trying to stay away from gnome dependancies
[03:08] <powderfinger> What did U type?
[03:08] <_jason> starscalling, oh I see
[03:08] <starscalling> and that has lots
[03:08] <somerville32> !mp3
[03:08] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:08] <starscalling> doing um
[03:08] <Toma-> mkrenz, i didnt know ubuntu WAS debian. i thought it was only based on it?
[03:08] <mkyb14> !samba
[03:08] <tech9iner> well bimberi .. your cli correction seemed to work 'adding user '???' to group 'admin'...' but.. groups returned only root?
[03:08] <Toma-> ;)
[03:08] <ubotu> samba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[03:09] <kameron> !tell Toma- about debian