[16:56] <jpds> mmiller13: If you're a business, that would be a professional disk forensics service.
[16:56] <Glorfindel> #raid ? I don't know
[16:56] <Glorfindel> nope not #raid
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> Glorfindel  some 40 people in #linux-raid
[16:58] <Glorfindel> ah
[16:58] <Glorfindel> go there then :P. there was nobody in #raid
[16:59] <mmiller13> So if I were a business, I'm in the wrong place?
[17:01] <mmiller13> wtf!!! who the fucktart is in #raid
[17:01] <Pici> mmiller13: Please mind the language and attitude here.
[17:03] <OerHeks> mmiller13, all i find is #linux-raid
[17:03] <zzuegg> if apache returns 403, does that mean i as user have not the neccesary permissions, or could that also mean apache itself does not have the permissions to access that folder?
[17:04] <Pici> zerick: generally that the user running the apache process (www-data) does not have the necessary rights.
[17:07] <zzuegg> alright, that explains a lot
[17:07] <Pici> oops
[17:08] <BradPJ> Hi, quick question, I've removed GRUB as I use Arch to manage my bootloader, however now when upgrading, I get 'The following packages have been kept back: linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic'. Is there anyway to force these packages to upgrade?
[17:08] <DadFoundMy> i am having trouble waking my thinkpad e440 from  hibernation. Anyonr have any idea how to fix?
[17:08] <DadFoundMy> i am having trouble waking my thinkpad e440 from  hibernation. Anyonr have any idea how to fix?
[17:09] <mmiller13> I take that back I was borded...
[17:10] <poseidon132> Hi
[17:10] <arun_> did anyone face the title bar issues with some applications, like thunderbird or shotwell
[17:10] <arun_> ?
[17:10] <arun_> I am using 14.04
[17:11] <BradPJ> arun_ : What title bar issues?
[17:11] <reymax> holaas
[17:11] <reymax> putooosss y putitaaasss
[17:12] <pushpa> Hi, I managed to install postgresql, remove the postgres user and now I cannot remove the package "* Error: The cluster is owned by user id 105 which does not exist any more" while trying autoremove or remove .. Any ideas?
[17:14] <compdoc> recreate the user?
[17:16] <poseidon132> Anyone use aircrack? I need some help
[17:23] <GEEMac> Hi folks, this may be a two fold issue with one result...   After turning the computer on (Trusty 64Bi) things take a while to boot to the main window.  After roughly 3 mins  Trusty shows the log in window (I have it set for auto log in) then the screen resolution changes to 1280x720 by itself.  I have my Xorg.config saet as I did in my 32 bit instal with no issues.   I have to use xrandr --size 1920x1080 to fix.. any ideas what is caus
[17:25] <DarthEaron> hello, i have tried to install the amd ati driver things for my computer, after i did, it asked for a restart and now i cant log in. i get to the login screen and everything, but i log in and the screen goes black and i go back to the log in screen again. im on 14.04 by the way.
[17:26]  * DarthEaron is sad
[17:27] <pallav> How can i make a application that scrape some data from website
[17:27] <DarthEaron> im not a programmer, but i think your in the wrong channel.
[17:27] <goddardlabs> hi
[17:28] <DarthEaron> goddardlabs: Hey!
[17:28] <goddardlabs> how do i install kde in ubuntu?
[17:28] <DarthEaron> goddardlabs: sudo apt-get install kde??
[17:28] <GEEMac> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[17:29] <DarthEaron> goddardlabs: googld it man. it cant be that hard. Does anyone have any comment on my issue? im stuck in tty right now.
[17:29] <DarthEaron> **google it man\
[17:30] <GEEMac> I just placed a link on a how to KDE
[17:30] <bazhang> goddardlabs, the package kubuntu-desktop
[17:30] <bazhang> !google | DarthEaron
[17:31] <goddardlabs> GEEMac, cool thanks bazhang
[17:31] <wget> Hi guys. Do you know if Ubuntu can be installed in CLI mode? Or at least ask Ubiquity to prevent any bootloader to be installed? I don't want to have Grub2 installed. I would prefer to use Gummiboot.
[17:31] <GEEMac> ATI issue Screen Blank.....   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1772710
[17:31] <GEEMac> Google is my friend.
[17:32] <wget> Will installing Gummibbot be a problem when the Ubuntu will be upgraded to a future version?
[17:32] <pallav> can i triple boot ubuntu , gentoo and W8.1 ?
[17:33] <DarthEaron> ubootu: there are times when i would agree with you. but sometimes people will ask a question on here without ever having tried to find it themselves.
[17:33] <code12> cause google sucks
[17:33] <DarthEaron> GEEMac: and yeah, goodle is everyones freind.
[17:33] <FreDings> hi can anyone help me set up a crontab?
[17:34] <FreDings> I'm mostly unsure of how to set my path
[17:34] <GEEMac> Triple boot... >>>   http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-918860-start-0.html
[17:34] <code12> lol
[17:34] <dragonballz> thanks GEEMac
[17:34] <code12> get refit or refind
[17:34] <ki7mt> FreDings, Use absolute paths for crontabs, no ~/././. or the like
[17:34] <code12> and
[17:34] <DarthEaron> FreDings: you mean like wearther to use Music or /home/user/Music?
[17:34] <code12> and be swag
[17:35] <code12> no use ~/Music/sex/cake
[17:35] <DarthEaron> FreDings: yeah, what ki7mt said
[17:35] <FreDings> @DarthEaron yeah like for example where do I set the start of my path
[17:35] <googlesky> hi
[17:35] <dragonballz> also tell me what is the best way to learn linux , ?
[17:36] <code12> install linux
[17:36] <code12> dumbass
[17:36] <code12> and read
[17:36] <code12> read
[17:36] <code12> read
[17:36] <dragonballz> should i learn RHEL ?  i am thinking of applying for RHCE certification program?
[17:36] <ki7mt> FreDings, For example: use /home/<user-name>/myscript.sh  .. rather than .. ~/myscript.sh
[17:36] <googlesky> dragonballz, I think you should google...
[17:36] <GEEMac> OK  I used my resources up googling for some people here.  Any help for my situation of Trusty 14.01 chaging resolution by itself while not touching the system?
[17:36] <DarthEaron> dragonballz: arch linux is the best way to learn linux.
[17:36] <compdoc> dragonballz, install it, use it, sleep with it
[17:36] <DarthEaron> code12: dont be a dick for no reason.
[17:36] <dragonballz> ls
[17:36] <dragonballz> killall IRCmembers
[17:36] <googlesky> !help
[17:37] <code12> dont even bother with archlinux, try linux kernel development
[17:37] <ki7mt> dragonballz, Whay ask about RH in  Ubuntu channel, that's just daft
[17:37] <ki7mt> whoops why ask ..
[17:37] <Beldar> GEEMac, "chaging resolution by itself while not touching the system?" Can you define this?
[17:38] <DarthEaron> code12: now that is something i have  always wanted to get into. never had the time honestly.
[17:38] <GEEMac> I usually spend more then 24 hours looking online for an answer via Google and the forums.  If no answer then I hit the IRCs.  This way I don't wast people's time.
[17:38] <AntelopeSalad> is it necessary to run dpkg-reconfigure after running locale-gen?
[17:38] <FreDings> @DarthEaron for example my php file is located in /var/www/html/thefile.php
[17:39] <tore__> ciao trullo da tore
[17:39] <Beldar> !topic | GEEMac
[17:39] <FreDings> @DarthEaron is it just that path? also how would I set a log to check if it's running correctly, I had that path set last night but it wasn't firing off, I'm not sure though because I don't believe a log was set
[17:39] <reborn> hey
[17:40] <GEEMac> !topic
[17:40] <championofcyrodi> anybody have suggestions on maintaining updates for client PCs?  I have ~60 employees running 14.04 LTS.  I have access to all the PCs via SSH as the admin account, the employees are being authenticated via ldap/sssd....  ksplice looks like a good option, but I have never used it.
[17:40] <ki7mt> FreDings, You should write the logging into the script itself.
[17:40] <tore__> ma...sono connesso?
[17:41] <Beldar> tore__ English here please.
[17:41] <DarthEaron> ... i might be kinda dumb here...is ubottu a human?
[17:41] <ki7mt> No
[17:41] <DarthEaron> LMFAO! i messed up on that one. i was starting to argue with it earlier
[17:42] <tore__> y am very sorry y do not speack english
[17:42] <FreDings> @ki7mt I see thanks, in addition, for pathing, is it safe to say I can start with /var ? I don't believe theres anything before that
[17:42] <ki7mt> It's coded by humans, but would be a rather one sided debate for sure .. lol
[17:42] <Beldar> tore__, What is your closest common language, galacian is a bit unusual.
[17:43] <DarthEaron> ki7mt: hahaha, yeah i guess.
[17:43] <GEEMac> KI7MT..  Greg?  de N2BRG,  Gary
[17:43] <ki7mt> FreDings, Absolute paths are just that, absolute, so if that's the path, that's what you use.
[17:44] <tore__> italian please bye bye
[17:44] <MeXTuX> Created a file called .aliases but it is not working. I rebooted the machine. Do I have to do something else? (using Lubuntu)
[17:44] <Beldar> !pt | tore__
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> !it | tore__
[17:44] <ki7mt> GEEMac, Yes, but that's bit OT here, try in #$hamradio or #ubuntu-hams ok
[17:44] <FreDings> @ki7mt thanks, I'm going to name my unborn son after you
[17:44] <ki7mt> SRI ##linuxham
[17:45] <ki7mt> or ##hamradio
[17:45] <tore__> ok
[17:45] <shutyaev> hi guys. how can i add a keyboard layout indicator to the top panel in ubuntustudio 14.04 ?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> MeXTuX: you can add bash aliases in ~/.bashrc then run: source ~/.bashrc ,to apply
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> shutyaev  there's also #ubuntu-studio
[17:46] <reborn> anyone know AMD Drivers update? if so, please links
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> MeXTuX: you don't have to reboot to apply an alias
[17:46] <championofcyrodi> Anyone?  Looking for an easy way to maintain updated packages remotely on client machines....
[17:46] <championofcyrodi> maybe ksplice?  any other thoughts?
[17:46] <juniour> reborn got amd website you will find the driver
[17:47] <ki7mt> shutyaev, with a good bit of coding, probab best to ask that in #ubuntu-motu or #ubuntu-devel something along those lines.
[17:47] <Beldar> reborn, You would get any through the ubuntu repos, do you have a more actual issue question?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Reborn: if you install them via the packages in the repos they will update like every other package
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> championofcyrodi  start from the beginning, what have you tried so far
[17:47] <shutyaev> MonkeyDust, thanks i'll try there too
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> championofcyrodi: puppet
[17:47] <championofcyrodi> MonkeyDust: I have not tried anything so far.  The only thing I have considered is a bash script to use ssh and execute apt-get upgrade remotely on all PCs in the network.   Or install ksplice
[17:48] <GEEMac> Apparently no one has seen my issue with this fresh install of Trusty 14.01 64Bit.  Seems I get stuck with the od and unexplained issues.  lol
[17:48] <ecdhe> If I know the name of a package in the ubuntu repos, how can I find its post-install script?
[17:48] <Beldar> GEEMac, I addressed you.
[17:48] <championofcyrodi> I was hoping someone here has already solved this problem, and was looking for some lessons learned.
[17:48] <trism> ecdhe: /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.postinst
[17:48] <GEEMac> Beldar  Sorry I missed that
[17:48] <Beldar> Beldar> GEEMac, "chaging resolution by itself while not touching the system?" Can you define this?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> championofcyrodi: if you have lots of Ubuntu systems it may help to run a LAN basef update server rather than every box going online for updates
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> championofcyrodi: a bit like WSUS
[17:48] <ecdhe> thanks trism!
[17:49] <championofcyrodi> ActionParsnip: Nice, I've used WSUS before...
[17:49] <reborn> okay, i got it, thanks.
[17:49] <ActionParsnip>  championofcyrodi you can even do it with ssh if you use SSH keys. Quick and dirty.
[17:49] <championofcyrodi> ActionParsnip: that sounds like what I'm looking for... our 1Gbps LAN will allow updates much faster than everyone hitting the default gateway going outbound...
[17:50] <ki7mt> I use deb-mirror, takes allot of space for the full distro, but, it's fast
[17:50] <reborn> so i need a command for flash plugin.
[17:51] <Beldar> !restricted | reborn
[17:51] <googlesky> some ppa not support 14.04. How I install software in that ppa? thanks :D
[17:51] <djones123> hi, any hints for 'server certificate verification failed' on apt-get update on a brand new 14.04 install?
[17:51] <GEEMac> After the usual boot up to the desktop Things are fine for a bit then all of a sudden the screen flashes to the log in screen which then I have to log in then the screen res changes from 1920x1080 to 1280 x720.  It sometimes does that when opening or closing a program.  xrandr --size 1920x1080 fixes it and all is good after that
[17:52] <Beldar> reborn, The restricted-extras provide flash and other codeces
[17:52] <reborn> thanks.
[17:52] <Beldar> codecs*
[17:52] <ActionParsnip2> championofcyrodi: using SSH you would need to configure sudo to not need password entry for apt-get but you can set it for one account only
[17:52] <Beldar> !ppa > googlesky
[17:52] <ActionParsnip2> GEEMac: test RAM using Memtest86 from Grub as a starting point
[17:52] <GEEMac> Did
[17:53] <ActionParsnip2> Djones123: have you tried a different server?
[17:53] <codephobic> hi
[17:53] <GEEMac> that already as a test for sysytem. This issue only started after I switch
[17:53] <Beldar> GEEMac, Are you setting that resolution permanent with xrandr
[17:53] <championofcyrodi> ActionParsnip2, that sounds reasonable.  I guess I'm going to look into setting up an apt repo on the LAN, then add the repo to the clients... and I guess set the LAN repo as the target for apt-get ??
[17:54] <googlesky> thanks Beldar
[17:54] <ActionParsnip2> GEEMac: if you make a fresh Ubuntu user and log in as that is it ok?
[17:54] <GEEMac> switched ( reinstalled) 14.10 64bit from 32 bit
[17:54] <Beldar> np googlesky
[17:54] <ActionParsnip2> GEEMac: have you tried a different session like XFCE etc?
[17:54] <championofcyrodi> then using ssh private keys, w/ sudoers NOPASSWD apt-get for the admin account, I should be able to kick off updates remotely.
[17:54] <Beldar> !14.10 > GEEMac
[17:54] <ki7mt> championofcyrodi, all ya need is the mirroring script, then simple apache server
[17:54] <GEEMac> This is a new install.
[17:54] <codephobic> having a strange audio problem with a fresh install of ubuntu 14.04 on an intel z97 chipset machine. been googling for a solution, not found anything other than kernel muckery (which I'll probably screw-up)... Anyone help?
[17:55] <Beldar> GEEMac, my bad seems you are on 14.04.
[17:55] <codephobic> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1321421 << potential, kernel modification-based, solution
[17:55] <championofcyrodi> ki7mt, mirroring script?   You can cron a job as root to get the update server to pull down new packages out of hours
[17:55] <championofcyrodi> ActionParsnip2: sounds good.
[17:56] <ki7mt> championofcyrodi, apache serves the data obviously, but you need something to performs the updates from the Ubuntu mirror. for example, I use Debmirror for that.
[17:57] <championofcyrodi> ki7mt: thanks, I'll do some reading on debmirror and see what I can do.
[17:57] <championofcyrodi> ki7mt, ActionParsnip2, thanks for your help.
[17:57] <ki7mt> championofcyrodi, then simple ln -s the mirror folder to /var/www/ubuntu and update my apt-lists to point to the IP address of the mirror server, done.
[17:57] <GEEMac> Beldar can you PM me
[17:57] <googlesky> some ppa not support 14.04. How I install software in ppa don't support 14.04?  thanks :D
[17:57] <codephobic> so, no solutions/workarounds yet?
[17:57] <championofcyrodi> ki7mt, sounds simple ;)
[17:57] <ActionParsnip2> codephobic: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[17:57] <googlesky> that ppa support 13.10 but don't support 14.04
[17:58] <ki7mt> championofcyrodi, It is, very simple, bare in mind, it's about 60GB for each arch on trusty.
[17:58] <ActionParsnip2> googlesky: you'll need a different ppa or contact the maintenaner to see if they will support your release
[17:58] <championofcyrodi> ki7mt: that seems reasonable.  I have ~1 TB available
[17:58] <ActionParsnip2> codephobic: a little patience goes a long way
[17:58] <ki7mt> championofcyrodi, You good to go then
[17:59] <codephobic> ActionParsnip2, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6b9d3d24526efc720ddd6c54f6e3f96130042a3e << just uploaded it
[17:59] <Beldar> GEEMac, I have that off, no PM's here better to use the channel more help.
[17:59] <GEEMac> Beldar: Yep  I'm on 14.04 and this started after a new install of the 64 bit version.  My xorg.conf is the same as my original 32 bit install.
[17:59] <ki7mt> championofcyrodi, More info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror
[17:59] <googlesky> oh. I know. thanks ActionParsnip2 , thank all
[17:59] <codephobic> ActionParsnip2, true
[18:00] <ActionParsnip2> codephobic: are you wanting to use HDMI audio or regular speakers?
[18:00] <codephobic> ActionParsnip2, regular.
[18:00] <ActionParsnip2> codephobic: are you wanting to use HDMI audio?
[18:01] <codephobic> ActionParsnip2, regular audio.
[18:01] <GEEMac> Beldar: NP.   I am going to post this up in the forum.  I Googled for hrs and I'll put a post now.
[18:01] <ActionParsnip2> codephobic: do you get sound if you connect headphones?
[18:01] <codephobic> ActionParsnip2, one mo. will test.
[18:02] <ActionParsnip2> codephobic: didn't think to test that?
[18:02] <tgm4883> So where do you file a bug for Ubuntu forums?
[18:02] <YokoBR> guys, i have a problem with winbind
[18:02] <YokoBR> i can't upgrade
[18:02] <YokoBR> it's a webserver :(
[18:02] <Beldar> GEEMac, You can turn off the join and leave if needed, makes the channel easier to follow, I can't really help you beyond that. ;)
[18:02] <robynata> :-D
[18:02] <YokoBR> invoke-rc.d: initscript winbind, action "start" failed. dpkg: erro processando winbind (--configure):
[18:03] <ActionParsnip2> YokoBR: run: sudo apt-get update;  sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:03] <codephobic> ActionParsnip2, nope, just been trying to install/re-install pulseaudio, etc ... had a variant of this problem a few years ago, was a driver issue then.
[18:03] <ActionParsnip2> YokoBR: pastebin the output please
[18:03] <GEEMac> Beldar:  Thanks anyway.  I'm just going to log into the forum and post there.  It's not a major issue here just another one of those odd ones that can't realy be put into words for a search.
[18:03] <OerHeks> tgm4883, you might want to join #ubuntuforums for reporting an issue
[18:04] <ActionParsnip2> codephobic: if you run alsamixer Are all levels cranked and unmuted? Use cursor keys to select the channel and make changes.  Esc to exit
[18:04] <tgm4883> OerHeks: thanks
[18:04] <codephobic> ActionParsnip2, so far, not getting any sound in the headphones.
[18:05] <ActionParsnip2> codephobic: use F6 to make sure you are editing the right device
[18:07] <GEEMac> Beldar:  was it you or someone else that asked if xrandr is set to a fixed resolution.  If not How do you go about that.  I can google it if you don't have time to answer.  Just thought I would ask while here.
[18:08] <codephobic> have cranked it all up
[18:08] <codephobic> but no sound through headphones
[18:08] <codephobic> and huge - loud - distortions through speakers
[18:08] <pushpa_> Hi, I managed to install postgresql, remove the postgres user and now I cannot remove the package "* Error: The cluster is owned by user id 105 which does not exist any more" while trying autoremove or remove .. Any ideas?  I tried to recreate the user but the new user will not have same id ...
[18:09] <compdoc> pushpa_, you can assign it the same id
[18:10] <compdoc> but it might be messed up by now
[18:10] <codephobic> ActionParsnip2, can't get any sound out of the headphones.
[18:12] <pushpa_> compdoc: by changing it in passwd file?
[18:12] <mmiller13> Does anyone know how to find the /dev/* of an attached usb device?
[18:12] <pushpa_> postgres:x:1001:1001:,,,:/home/postgres:/bin/bash   just replacing 1001?
[18:13] <streamofthot> Hello there! My Samsung Series 3 laptop doesn't wake up from sleep mode when I use fglrx from the repos; I've been googling around but can't find anything useful, can anyone help?
[18:13] <streamofthot> I'm using 14.04
[18:14] <compdoc> pushpa, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-change-rename-user-name-id/
[18:14] <Gabi-> hi guys , its there any tool online to create random words based on my config ( i want it to start with B , then 3 random numbers , then 3 random letters : example : B100DER  or B444FOR or something to be read as a single word )
[18:14] <Beldar> streamofthot, How do you have the wake up set?
[18:14] <streamofthot> well, I'm just using the energy manager from the control center
[18:14] <streamofthot> Set up for suspend
[18:14] <Beldar> streamofthot, Which is set as?
[18:15] <streamofthot> When the lid is closed -> Suspend, both in battery and AC mode
[18:16] <Beldar> streamofthot, The base of my question is to wake up hit a key, hit the power button...etc
[18:17] <ki7mt> Gabi-, there's so many ways to to that its mind boggling, here's a quick script to gen numbers, just Pre-Pend your "B" to it, and maybe add tr [[:lower:]] [[:upper:]] if you want all Upercase VARS's.
[18:17] <streamofthot> Beldar: Ah, sorry, the power button is supposed to wake up from sleep mode
[18:17] <ryan___> I'm trying to install ubuntu 14.04 on my pc but i can't because of the graphics cad is going all funny all over my LCs screen
[18:18] <ryan___> *LCD
[18:18] <Beldar> streamofthot, No biggie just trying to get an outline, not really able to help beyond that.
[18:19] <streamofthot> alright, thanks anyway, Beldar
[18:19] <Beldar> np
[18:19] <streamofthot> I've come to the point of just disabling suspension altogether, but it's aggravating
[18:19] <r3volver> how can I deactivate ~/.bash_history of a user?
[18:20] <ki7mt> r3volver, history -c && UNSET histfile
[18:21] <r3volver> ki7mt: just a sec...
[18:21] <ki7mt> Whoops: unset HISTFILE  .. had that backwards
[18:22] <YokoBR> guysssss
[18:22] <YokoBR> please
[18:22] <YokoBR> bind() to <IP_ADDRESS>:80 failed (98: Address already in use)
[18:22] <YokoBR> what can i do?
[18:22] <SchrodingersScat> YokoBR: you can stop whatever is already using port 80
[18:23] <pushpa_> thank you compdoc
[18:23] <YokoBR> SchrodingersScat: Sorry, i need it on port 20000
[18:23] <YokoBR> how can i see what is using port 20000
[18:24] <fAz4> would someone native with english language tell me what does "notice period" means, i have to answer it on my job offer.
[18:24] <mikeg3> Hi, I am having problems installing Ubuntu alongside Vista.  The install completes 99%, then  grub will quit.  What is the easiest way to troubleshoot this?  I tried (by a Vista install disk) to make the Ubuntu partition active and failed.
[18:24] <SchrodingersScat> YokoBR: then you probably need to set nginx so it uses that port
[18:24] <english_nick> how long you need to be able to quite a job fAz4
[18:24] <english_nick> fAz4, and WHY are you asking that here if i may ask? :)
[18:24] <OerHeks> lsof -i :20000
[18:24] <ki7mt> fAz4, When you leave a position, normally the time you give before doing so, like 2 weeks, 4 weeks etc.
[18:25] <fAz4> english_nick: because we are community :)
[18:25] <english_nick> fair enough :)
[18:25] <english_nick> fAz4, what kind of job are you getting?
[18:25] <Beldar> mikeg3, Grub will quit means?
[18:25] <fAz4> it means the date that i can join them ?
[18:25] <fAz4> english_nick: Java Developer
[18:25] <english_nick> pretty much fAz4
[18:25] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | english_nick, fAz4
[18:25] <english_nick> heh heh i knew it was coming mate. which was why i asked :)
[18:26] <fAz4> english_nick: thank you for your help
[18:26] <mikeg3> GRUB quitting means GRUB has a fatal error
[18:26] <ki7mt> Probably could have gotten away with one question, but 2 or 3 gonna get Dinged :-)
[18:26] <english_nick> yup
[18:26] <Beldar> !bootinfo | mikeg3
[18:26] <english_nick> and for good reason
[18:27] <Beldar> mikeg3, Preface with nicks in answering here, run that script.
[18:27] <Beldar> mikeg3, Assuming you have ubuntu installed but with this error.
[18:29] <ki7mt> Gabi-, post in the channel please
[18:29] <Gabi-> ok
[18:29] <Gabi-> i need for my car number plates suggestions
[18:30] <ki7mt> Gabi-, your probably want #ubuntu-offtopic for that then, this channel is for support.
[18:30] <mikeg3> Beldar, I am a Linux noob.  Run the bootinfo script via the live CD?
[18:30] <Gabi-> like B100OOD or B111ONE or B666SIX sort of suggestions B666XXX
[18:30] <OerHeks> Gabi-, wrong channel dude, read the topic
[18:30] <Beldar> mikeg3, Yes.
[18:31] <majod> is it any way how to disable <super>+number shortcut in unity?
[18:31] <codephobic> anyone got a solution to the sound issue with ALSA and the Intel Z97 chipset?
[18:31] <ki7mt> Gabi-, Or if your writing a Bash script, try in Bash, or Python script #python, but that's not Ubuntu support issues Im affraid.
[18:31] <codephobic> (other than using windows)
[18:31] <Beldar> mikeg3, The link tells you that be sure to read clearly so we are on task. ;)
[18:32] <mikeg3> beldar, ok, problem when running live CD is mouse and video tend to freeze, maybe we should start there.
[18:32] <Beldar> mikeg3, Can't really help on that with any clear answers, I would just be googling.
[18:33] <Daghdha> Hi, i set up one of the NICs in my ubuntu 13.01 LTS as a bridge. It craps out though. The windows machine using it will lose internet untill i reset the NIC in the ubuntu machine as follows: sudo ifdown --exclude=lo -a && sudo ifup --exclude=lo -a
[18:33] <Daghdha> Is there any known issues or pitfalls people need to watch out for?
[18:34] <Beldar> mikeg3, http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ grab supergrub and see if it boots you to the ubuntu desktop we can go from their.
[18:34] <Daghdha> It craps out during my backup, so lotsa data is being pumped, but i don't know if that's exlcusive situation. When i pump lotsa data trough it's pretty fast to fail. under aminute
[18:34] <OerHeks> codephobic, found this tread with an fix > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1321421/comments/28
[18:34] <Beldar> Daghdha, That is eol not supported
[18:35] <Daghdha> bridge?
[18:35] <Beldar> Daghdha, 13.10?
[18:35] <Daghdha> LTS 13.x i dunno the x. 04?
[18:35] <Daghdha> lemme see
[18:35] <codephobic> OerHeks, thanks but I'm pretty much out of my depths when it comes to kernels and patches, any chance you could talk me through the process?
[18:36] <mikeg3> Beldar, on the video freeze, do have suspicions.  Old computer  with NVidia 6150SE video card, needs restricted drivers I would guess.  Is there any way to start Ubuntu in a simpler screen resolution, like 640x480.
[18:36] <OerHeks> codephobic, easy, step 1 > gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[18:37] <Beldar> mikeg3, we are far from where I am trying to help you, I said that is not an area I can help.
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> brb
[18:37] <OerHeks> codephobic, step 2 > paste this at the end of the file >  options snd-hda-intel vid=8086 pid=8ca0 snoop=0
[18:37] <codephobic> OerHeks, just installing gksu (wasn't on my system)
[18:37] <OerHeks> not gksu, gksudo
[18:38] <OerHeks> !sudo
[18:38] <Daghdha> Beldar: it says 12.04 LTS
[18:38] <OerHeks> oh is gksudo depreciated?
[18:38] <Beldar> mikeg3If we can get to the installs desktop than we have a more likely chance of fixing grub, and we will see if this other issue is apparent.
[18:38] <codephobic> OerHeks, done.
[18:39] <Beldar> Daghdha, Cool, just be sure you are correct in this area. ;/
[18:39] <codephobic> OerHeks, not sure whether it's deprecated or not but, just wasn't installed on my system. Could be something I did/didn't do, during my install.
[18:39] <Daghdha> Beldar: There never was a 13.x LTS?
[18:39] <ki7mt> No
[18:39] <OerHeks> codephobic, reboot and sound should workor killall pulseaudio, it should respawn
[18:39] <codephobic> OerHeks, thanks for the help, gonna reboot now ... hope it all works
[18:39] <jeevesmoss> how do I auto login a user on the desktop?
[18:39] <ki7mt> 10.04, 12.04 and 14.04 are the rescent LTS versions
[18:40] <Daghdha> Ok.. :) so support is stil on for 12.04?
[18:40] <ki7mt> Yes
[18:40] <ki7mt> Until Apr-2017
[18:40] <Beldar> Daghdha, Bro this info is on the web you should know this.
[18:40] <Daghdha> Well, i have an adapter bridging and when i have high data troughput it seems to fail.
[18:41] <Daghdha> I need to reset the NIC in the ubuntu machine as follows: sudo ifdown --exclude=lo -a && sudo ifup --exclude=lo -a
[18:41] <Daghdha> Then it is ok again.
[18:42] <Daghdha> Are there any settings i can do to make it mroe stable?
[18:43] <codephobic> OerHeks, just returned to Thank you for the help. It worked! :D
[18:43] <OerHeks> great, codephobic
[18:43] <codephobic> (listening to FatBoy Slim - Right Here, Right Now)
[18:43] <codephobic> cheers
[18:43] <OerHeks> codephobic, maybe you can confirm that fix works
[18:43] <codephobic> OerHeks, do I post on that thread?
[18:43] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1321421/comments/28
[18:43] <OerHeks> jups
[18:44] <codephobic> OerHeks, cool will do.
[18:44] <codephobic> Any data I need to provide?
[18:44] <OerHeks> thanks in advance :-)
[18:44] <codephobic> Thank you for the trouble you went to, to help me :)
[18:44] <OerHeks> no just type that line and say it works for your 14.04
[18:44] <Daghdha> Waiting for  it to die again.. ofcourse when you want to it will not fail :(
[18:46] <jeevesmoss> how do I auto login a user on the desktop?
[18:47] <ki7mt> jeevesmoss, See Info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin
[18:47] <Beldar> jeevesmoss, users has a switch
[18:48] <ki7mt> wow, that's links old, let me look for a newer one.
[18:49] <ki7mt> jeevesmoss, Dash  >> System Settings >> User accounts, click "Unlock" and enter your password, then click the button next to "Automatic login"
[18:50] <jeevesmoss> ki7mt, is there a way to do it from the CLI?  I'm running a beaglebone black, and I don't have a mouse/keyboard here
[18:50] <Daghdha> This is my /etc/network.interfaces http://pastebin.com/3CGn0j6Q  basically 7 lines. Is there anything i can add or change to make it more stable?
[18:51] <jeevesmoss> Daghdha, what are you trying to make it "stable"?
[18:51] <ki7mt> jeevesmoss, is this a desktop or server install?
[18:51] <jeevesmoss> ki7mt, it's a desktop.
[18:51] <Daghdha> I just bridged them i do nothing to make it stable, i jus assumed it would work.
[18:52] <jeevesmoss> Daghdha, ahhhh, sorry, I'm not very good at bridging.
[18:52] <ki7mt> jeevesmoss, Ok, so you want to auto-login to a Desktop, with not KB or Mouse?
[18:52] <jeevesmoss> ki7mt, correct.  there is a 7" LCD touch screen on the unit.  The end goal is to end up with the unit displaying a running "tail -f" full screen
[18:52] <Daghdha> i will begin removing that commented old stuff
[18:53] <ki7mt> jeevesmoss, Just SSH to the box with SSH-Keys then.
[18:54] <jeevesmoss> ki7mt, that kinda kills the point of having the screen on the unit.
[18:54] <jeevesmoss> ki7mt, is there a way to invoike the auto login without a keyboard?
[18:54] <Glorfindel> Yes
[18:54] <Glorfindel> hang on
[18:54] <ki7mt> jeevesmoss, So does running in a full-screen terminal in a tail mode :-)
[18:55] <jeevesmoss> ki7mt, <rolls eyeS>
[18:55] <jeevesmoss> ki7mt, the unit will be running gl_tail as a "demo" to clients.   And if I can get it to work, I'll use the HDMI output to run a 42" LCD T.V. in the front office.
[18:56] <Glorfindel> oh wait, NM
[18:56] <english_nick> anyone use kde-plasma-desktop in 14.04? did it wreak any havoc on your lappy?
[18:56] <Glorfindel> you want to do it from the CLI
[18:56] <litropy> I'm using update-manager to upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04. It is currently downloading packages. I need to stop the download and use my connection for another purpose. When I start the upgrade again, will upddate-manager automatically pick up where it left off, or will the already downloaded packages be removed?
[18:56] <jeevesmoss> ki7mt, I just don't feel like running a full blown desktop
[18:57] <ki7mt> jeevesmoss, While Im sure there are many other ways, like I said, I would use SSH keys to do what yoru after.
[18:57] <YokoBR> guys, please, i have a huge problem after upgrading
[18:57] <ki7mt> jeevesmoss, I belive this will do it, need to verify: sudo gpasswd -d USER nopasswdlogin
[18:58] <jeevesmoss> ki7mt, that dosn't give me local (to the BBB) desktop auto login.  I can get the remote log stuff (gl_tail) working.  I'm just stuck on the auto login
[18:58] <YokoBR> errors found while running dpkg config snort  nova-common
[18:58] <r3volver> ki7mt: about disabling ~/.bash_history
[18:59] <ki7mt> jeevesmoss, Or you could manually edit: /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[18:59] <r3volver> history -c just clears the current history right? should I add this in .bashrc?
[18:59] <r3volver> ki7mt: I wanted to point the .bash_history file to /dev/null or whatever
[19:00] <jeevesmoss> ki7mt, I tried that.  Once this is done updating, I'll pull the config
[19:00] <ki7mt> r3volver, here's other ways of doing the same thing: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/7041/dont-save-commands-in-bash-history-only-for-current-session
[19:00] <mzmz> having great difficulty getting the proprietary Nvidia drivers to work since a recent  apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:00] <ki7mt> r3volver, After that, it's up to you haw you want to spoof commands.
[19:01] <r3volver> ki7mt, thanks for the tip!
[19:01] <jeevesmoss> ki7mt, I don't have a lightdm.conf file.  This is 13.04
[19:02] <mzmz> when I check /var/log/Xorg.0.log  one of the lines says:  [    24.135] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[19:02] <litropy> I'm using update-manager to upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04. It is currently downloading packages. I need to stop the download and use my connection for another purpose. When I start the upgrade again, will upddate-manager automatically pick up where it left off, or will the already downloaded packages be removed?
[19:02] <litropy> Stop the download, meaning, "Click Cancel"
[19:02] <Daghdha> oh wow, ubuntu just went down i think.. i lost connection and heard beeps inda reboot
[19:03] <litropy> I'm on a slow connection, and it would take hours to get back to where I was.
[19:03] <Daghdha> or rather boot.
[19:03] <mzmz> I've already use the "Additional Drivers" from the menu, and after purging done  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[19:03] <ki7mt> jeevesmoss, Ok, well your on your onw with that one, as 13.04 is EOL, asn 13.10 is EOL nect month, may want to consider 12.04 or 14.04.
[19:03] <mzmz> any insight would be helpful, maybe I'm doing something wrong
[19:03] <litropy> jeevesmoss, EOL = End Of Life
[19:05] <jeevesmoss> litropy, thanks, I know what EOL is.
[19:05] <bmurt> hey ya'll quick question regardin ubuntu 12.04 desktop x.64 and virtualization.. im trying to use virtualbox in conjunction with vagrant but the acceleration tab for virtualbox is not enabled
[19:05] <jeevesmoss> ki7mt, I'll see if I can do a dist upgrade with less than 400Mb!
[19:05] <bmurt> vt-x, vt-d, etc. is enabled at the bios level
[19:05] <litropy> jeevesmoss, :)
[19:05] <bmurt> any ideas why that's not enabled in virtualbox?
[19:06] <Daghdha> If ubuntu has a kernel panic log?
[19:06] <ki7mt> jeevesmoss, BB is a custom Re-Master for ARM v6 "I think", you may may run into issues there, but been a while since I did anything with that platform.
[19:07] <jeevesmoss> ki7mt, lol.  everything I've done with this thing has been a mess
[19:07] <CodeGosu> if i move some process in console to background, how do i bring it back?
[19:07] <CodeGosu> ctrl+z
[19:07] <ki7mt> jeevesmoss, and it would not be a dist-upgrade it would be a: do-release-upgrade, but in you case that will only get you to 13.10 then next month, your in the same boat rowing the same ores.
[19:08] <jeevesmoss> lol.  story of my life.
[19:08] <rww`> CodeGosu: the command fg
[19:09] <YokoBR> guys, pleaseeee
[19:09] <ki7mt> jeevesmoss, Long story short, the BB, RaspPI, Cubie gurus need to keep pace with LTS of they expect proper support.
[19:09] <YokoBR> i'm screwd
[19:09] <YokoBR> i'm getting errors while configuring snort and nova-common
[19:09] <jeevesmoss> YokoBR, yep.  now please give us your beer
[19:09] <ki7mt> .. If they expect proper support"
[19:12] <jeevesmoss> ki7mt, lets see what else I can break over here.
[19:12] <ki7mt> jeevesmoss, :-), that shouldnt' be to difficult :-)
[19:13] <jeevesmoss> ki7mt, welcome to my world.  EVERYTHING I touch needs to be fixed.  I could grab a screwdriver, and it'll have a broken tip.    I have a good enough grasp of it that I built an engine.
[19:15] <Sailor7009> anyone can help me, still not able to instal ubuntu in my hp pavilion new model
[19:15] <OerHeks> sim590, ubuntu switched to libav https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FFmpeg
[19:15] <Sailor7009> 2014
[19:16] <Daghdha> are  things i have in /et/cnetowrking.interfaces not also supposed to bein networkmanager in the desktop?
[19:16] <OerHeks> Sailor7009, if that is an windows8 machine, you might need the uefi manual
[19:16] <OerHeks> !uefi
[19:16] <jeevesmoss> ki7mt, can you explain this one to me please?  http://pastebin.com/RcQ64G0G
[19:16] <Sailor7009> i really tried manually with no success
[19:17] <Daghdha> BOOM>
[19:17] <jeevesmoss> ki7mt, I think that'll prove my point.  lol
[19:18] <Sailor7009> i am about to sell this one, I'll try for the very last time
[19:18] <jeevesmoss> Sailor7009, where theres a will there's also an hammer
[19:18] <Glorfindel> lol
[19:18] <jeevesmoss> Sailor7009, and if the hammer won't fix your issue, then you've got an electrical issue
[19:19] <askjl> Hi everyone. Can anyone please tell me where can I get realtek drivers? I am unable to get it from it's official website
[19:19] <askjl> I am having an issue with my ethernet card
[19:19] <sim590> OerHeks: do you mean that they moved ffmpeg in the package named libav ?
[19:19] <jeevesmoss> askjl, hammer time.
[19:20] <OerHeks> sim590, ffmpeg is now just a matapackage to libav
[19:20] <Kanerix> they deprecated ffmpeg, but ffmpeg is still actively developed and still works as a powerful tool
[19:20] <Kanerix> Especially on lower powered embedded systems
[19:21] <jaynext> yup tried to use ffmpeg ... they told me to use another program
[19:21] <Sailor7009_> jeevesmoss, i don't think its a hardware problem, the thing is that when i turn on the pc it's displayed on the screen the dualboot, but it won't accept to go into
[19:21] <Kanerix> I just recompiled it from source
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> jaynext  winff is a nice gui for ffmpeg
[19:21] <Kanerix> which told ubuntu to stfu about it
[19:22] <rsw> can someone tell me off-hand, what differentiates a "research operating system"?  Google only tosses up AROS
[19:22] <jeevesmoss> Sailor7009, that's a the EFUI thing popping up. My netbook does the same thing.  I'm in the process of dual booting that beast.
[19:22] <Kanerix> I'm using it for screen capture on embedded systems. Works really well for it, actually
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> rsw  this channel is ubuntu only
[19:22] <askjl> jeevesmoss: sorry?
[19:23] <sim590> OerHeks: what do you mean by "metapackage" ? I've just apt-file /usr/bin/ffmpeg and I didn't find anything that provides it.
[19:23] <ybit2> issues booting into ubuntu after install ( a grub screen isn't present) here's the paste from boot repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7712446/
[19:23] <rsw> well, i understand this, although unix is considered a research operating system and ubuntu being a descendant of that would certainly populate an irc channel with someone who could briefly describe the concept
[19:23] <ybit2> after running the recommended settings from boot repair, nothing happened, i.e. no boot screen (grub) present
[19:24] <jeevesmoss> askjl, ???
[19:24] <ybit2> anyone willing to help me out?
[19:24] <Sailor7009_> jeevesmoss, i don't think its a hardware problem, the thing is that when i turn on the pc it's displayed on the screen the dualboot, but it won't accept to go into
[19:24] <Sunstream> that UEFI is the reason Win 8 boots in seconds
[19:24] <jeevesmoss> Sailor7009, that's a the EFUI thing popping up. My netbook does the same thing.  I'm in the process of dual booting that beast.
[19:24] <ybit2> anyone ready to take on an adventure? ;D
[19:24] <askjl> jeevesmoss: hammer time?
[19:24] <Beldar> ybit2, Have you tapped shift at powering on?
[19:24] <Sailor7009_> win8 accept
[19:24] <OerHeks> metapackage is an file that points to package(s) with names that might not be the same, or hold a lot of dependencies like 'ubuntu-desktop'
[19:24] <jeevesmoss> askjl, it goes back to the comment of "where there is a will, there is a hammer"
[19:25] <Glorfindel> askjl: time to show your pc who's boss with a hammer
[19:25] <ybit2> Beldar: what do you mean?
[19:25] <askjl> oh I see
[19:25] <ybit2> Beldar: what would that do?
[19:25] <jeevesmoss> askjl, and if that won't work, you have an electrical issue
[19:25] <Beldar> ybit2, Turn on the computer and tap the shift as if shooting at aliens to see if the grub menu appears.
[19:26] <ybit2> Beldar: what happens is that the bios can't find a boot method and skips booting from the hard drive and tries out the last resort: network boot
[19:26] <askjl> jeevesmoss: i am unable to download the  driver off the website
[19:26] <linuxfan> hi everyone is this the irc channel where you can ask questions?
[19:26] <jeevesmoss> askjl, the NIC driver?
[19:26] <jeevesmoss> linuxfan, you just ansked a question.
[19:26] <askjl> jeevesmoss: yeah
[19:26] <ybit2> Beldar: it's not getting stuck on a blank screen or something
[19:27] <jeevesmoss> askjl, link?
[19:27] <ybit2> i wonder if that explains it "no boot loader is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda"
[19:27] <Beldar> ybit2,  Just a check with the info you have given a single install wil skip the grub menu, shift brings it up when all is working correctly.
[19:27] <jeevesmoss> ybit2, toss in a live CD and reinstall the GRUB
[19:28] <askjl> http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/kernel/dists/trunk/firmware-nonfree/realtek/RTL8192SU/rtl8192sfw.bin
[19:28] <askjl> I think this is it
[19:28] <linuxfan> okay... I have a zte mf641 mobile broadband device, and i am wanting to know how to use it wired instead of wireless? i was able to once, but i am not able to anymore after downloading my wifi cards drivers.
[19:28] <YokoBR> :(
[19:28] <YokoBR> omg
[19:28] <jeevesmoss> askjl, how are oyu downloading it?  it works over here.
[19:28] <Beldar> ybit2, You have a uefi install, and boot partition, the mbr is not used.
[19:29] <jeevesmoss> when are they going to fix this bloody issue?
[19:29] <askjl> jeevesmoss: using wget
[19:29] <linuxfan> i was able to set up a connection using the lte option in the network settings, but once i downloaded the wifi drivers for my wifi card i was able to use it via wired anymore. it's really odd.
[19:30] <jeevesmoss> askjl, what's the error when you use wget?
[19:30] <Beldar> ybit2, Actaully hard to tell if a uefi install with lvm not letting the script read.
[19:31] <jeevesmoss> askjl, you're just getting some weird files?
[19:31] <ybit2> adjusting the settings in boot repair
[19:31] <ybit2> it should also reinstall a new version of grub
[19:31] <ybit2> i made the boot menu appear for at least 2 seconds
[19:31] <askjl> jeevesmoss: yeah
[19:31] <jeevesmoss> askjl, run this "mv rtl8192sfw.bin?revision=15684 rtl8192sfw.bin"
[19:32] <askjl> okay, got the bin file, jeevesmoss
[19:32] <Beldar> ybit2, a bit of a strange setup with a ext2 sda2 do you have a clue at all on a uefi bios?
[19:32] <ybit2> Beldar: i don't really know
[19:32] <ybit2> i think it is
[19:32] <ybit2> lenovo thinkpad b570
[19:33] <jeevesmoss> askjl, np.  sourceforge does that crap.  just look for the file name in the long string and MV it
[19:33] <Beldar> ybit2, I would practice with a install with the lvm and get acquainted with the uefi bios and your options, a legacy boot would have a mbr involved.
[19:33] <askjl> thanks
[19:34] <jeevesmoss> askjl, np.  I struggled with that one for a while.
[19:34] <Beldar> 1uefi | ybit2
[19:34] <Beldar> !uefi | ybit2
[19:34] <orbisvicis> can I install a debian package?
[19:35] <Beldar> orbisvicis, In ubuntu at your own risk, not a good idea
[19:35] <Daghdha> Do i understand correct br0: is a firtual device that send/receives over eth1: and eth2: .. AND.. that when network stops working over eth1 and not eth2 the error is probably not in bridging but in the specific eth1:?
[19:35] <Beldar> not supported here
[19:35] <askjl> jeevesmoss: I am getting 2MB/s on my ethernet atm :P
[19:36] <ybit2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7712701/ <-- latest output from boot repair
[19:36] <Daghdha> are you talking to me beldar?
[19:37] <jeevesmoss> askjl, sounds like a duplex issue.  if it's a 100Mb card, you should be getting 10Mb effective
[19:38] <askjl> jeevesmoss: it's 1000Mb
[19:38] <askjl> jeevesmoss: also this r816....bin we have got has error
[19:38] <ybit2> jeevesmoss, Beldar: thanks for your responses, rebooting now
[19:38] <jeevesmoss> askjl, lol, kick it.
[19:39] <askjl> jeevesmoss: haha, that was the only place where I got the file from
[19:40] <askjl> okay, got more
[19:41] <jeevesmoss> askjl, why isn't it precompiled?  some odd ball card?
[19:42] <askjl> yeah
[19:42] <askjl> I think so
[19:44] <ybit2> welp pressing the shift key like a mad man didn't really help :)
[19:45] <Beldar> ybit2, I doubt that install is going to ever work, that has been my point.
[19:45] <convict> Anyone familiar with disabling the discrete gpu in a mid-2012 mbp? Tried using vgaswitcheroo but it gives me client 101 refused switch.
[19:45] <ybit2> Beldar: so your recommendation is to read the uefi documentation?
[19:45] <ybit2> Beldar: what do you think is the issue?
[19:46] <Beldar> ybit2, A good start yes. ;)
[19:46] <ybit2> maybe i should try legacy mode
[19:46] <ybit2> i did get this machine in ~2009
[19:47] <Daghdha> 2009 had no uefi yet did it?
[19:47] <ybit2> or ~2010
[19:47] <ybit2> can't recall
[19:47] <jeevesmoss> lol.  mine was made around that time I think
[19:47] <Beldar> Beldar, Looks like hard to say as you are using lvm like a regular install without the legacy option, uefi is a bit knew for many of us so I can't be exactly sure.
[19:48] <ybit2> no option for efi in the BIOS
[19:48] <ybit2> i'll try to make it a legacy boot
[19:48] <jeevesmoss> ybit2, are you running the latest?
[19:48] <ybit2> jeevesmoss: 14.04
[19:49] <jeevesmoss> ybit2, latest BIOS
[19:49] <Beldar> ybit2, it is already uefi, and a gpt partition table and gpt partitioning, you need to research, not guess.
[19:50] <Beldar> ybit2, This a former apple computer?
[19:50] <ybit2> no
[19:50] <jeevesmoss> ybit2, is it not seeing the disks?  you have to kick the BIOS over to the old SATA version for the inital install
[19:50] <Beldar> ybit2, Hard to tell what is going on there you have a efi partiton sda1.
[19:51] <Beldar> jeevesmoss, you are guessing
[19:51] <ybit2> jeevesmoss: the only options for sata are "compatible" and "ati" or something like that
[19:51] <ybit2> i can't recall the exact second option, it's defaulting to "compatible"
[19:52] <FourFire> Hello!
[19:53] <FourFire> hello hello
[19:53] <Beldar> FourFire, Support issue?
[19:53] <FourFire> is canonical going to sell ubuntu, and what does that actually mean?
[19:53] <Beldar> !ot | FourFire
[19:53] <FourFire> http://itsfoss.com/facebook-to-buy-ubuntu-for-3-billion/
[19:54] <jeevesmoss> ybit2, I went out to the car to get my netbook to have a look
[19:54] <DJones> FourFire: And what was the date on that
[19:54] <FourFire> Beldar, thank you, I have frequented this channel a number of times before, I'm just a little freaked, need to determine whether this is true or not
[19:54] <Beldar> FourFire, April 1, 2014
[19:54] <ybit2> jeevesmoss: you have a b570 as well?
[19:54] <FourFire> ...
[19:54] <Beldar> april fools fool. ;)
[19:54] <Daghdha> ls
[19:54] <jeevesmoss> ybit2, try compatable.
[19:55] <ybit2> jeevesmoss: it is compatible
[19:55] <ybit2> jeevesmoss: by default
[19:55] <jeevesmoss> ybit2, no, I have a transformer pad
[19:55] <Daghdha> Where does one go for support on bridging?
[19:55] <jeevesmoss> Daghdha, your local DOT office
[19:55] <DJones> FourFire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools'_Day
[19:55] <Beldar> bazinga
[19:55] <FourFire> thanks :D
[19:56] <Beldar> FourFire, maybe the onion site is more on your level you would know it's fake, ;)
[19:56] <ybit2> Beldar: is the lvm thing throwing you for a loop
[19:56] <ybit2> i can create a new install without lvm
[19:56] <Daghdha> Beldar: Oeople only don't realise it'
[19:56] <ybit2> i just want a working machine so i can work
[19:56] <Daghdha> s because it's not funny
[19:57] <jeevesmoss> ybit2, I'm going to try installing Ubuntu 14.03 on my netbook (since I killed Windows 8 on it last night)
[19:58] <Daghdha> This bridging is realy beginning to piss me off. I can triggerthe other nic failing by doing an ls on the console. Yes.. an ls.
[19:58] <ikonia> a network card is not impacted by "ls"
[19:58] <Daghdha> one would think so. The Ls is don on remote VNC session though trough the other nic. But even then.
[19:59] <Daghdha> i will switch them see what happens.
[20:00] <cicobarque> ciao
[20:05] <kitkat_> hi
[20:06] <kitkat_> i have a problem anyone out here can help ?
[20:07] <ikonia> kitkat_: people don't know if they can help until you tell them the problem
[20:09] <cicobarque> ciao
[20:09] <uve> how can i change my hotspot security key?
[20:10] <ikonia> uve: what controls your hotspot ?
[20:10] <kitkat_> i have some files when i open it  gives error permission denied , can't red from disk , changed permissions and nothing , and also there a file can't be deleted even with root priv
[20:10] <uve> ikonia:  nevermind, i found it in edit connectiond, thanks anyways
[20:11] <ikonia> kitkat_: are these on your ubuntu disk or a different disk
[20:11] <cicobarque> help
[20:11] <ikonia> cicobarque: nope,
[20:11] <ikonia> cicobarque: if you ask a question though, someone may help, but "help" just gets nothing
[20:11] <kitkat_> different disk
[20:11] <ikonia> kitkat_: a windows disk ?
[20:12] <kitkat_> i was using it on windows NTFS format i switched to Ubuntu and formated windows system disk ,
[20:13] <ikonia> kitkat_: ok, so what file system is on the disk you are trying to access ?
[20:14] <tjj> So I recently rebooted after a bunch of upgrades, and suddenly the special keys on my M$ ergo keyboard aren't being registered anymore. Any thoughts on how to investigate/fix this?
[20:15] <bmurt> stop using a microsoft keyboard?
[20:15] <tjj> Oddly, the numlock and caps lock LEDs aren't working anymore either, although the lock keys give the normal behavior
[20:15] <bmurt> :)
[20:15] <tjj> bmurt: I'd definitely welcome any suggestions on other ergo keyboards with extra keys (e.g., I use the 'favorite' button to launch terminal)
[20:16] <kitkat_> system files work fine , part ion 2 , any files contain Thumb.db all mp3 and jpg files give that error and Thumb files  undelete able :/
[20:16] <ikonia> kitkat_: ok, so what file system is on the disk you are trying to access ?
[20:18] <kitkat_> ikonia  didn't get your question ,
[20:18] <cicobarque> xdcc
[20:18] <cicobarque> xdccmule
[20:18] <ikonia> kitkat_: what file system (ntfs/fat/ext4/etc) is on the disk
[20:19] <kitkat_> ex4
[20:19] <Sunstream>  ?!
[20:19] <ikonia> kitkat_: then you can simpley chage the permissions on those files
[20:19] <kitkat_> ext4
[20:19] <Sunstream> ?!
[20:24] <kitkat_> sys disk ex4 , the problem on ntfs disk , when i change permission it says applying changes and disappear , throw terminal changed it and still can't open mp3 and jpg files on the ntfs disk , and when i open properties of jpg or mp3 it's quit automatically  , that what is confusing me ikonia , so any way to delete thumb.db ?
[20:25] <rootkit_infected> k
[20:25] <rootkit_infected>  i got infected with a tftpd, i have read documentation about it but i cant get rid of it, could anyone help?
[20:26] <bekks> rootkit_infected: you should reinstall your system.
[20:27] <rootkit_infected> bekks this is flashed in the memory
[20:27] <rootkit_infected> im running a lide system, no hard drive
[20:27] <ikonia> rootkit_infected tftpd is not an infection
[20:27] <falafel> Anybody knows how can I remove icons from QT apps in the global appmenu? Found this old question, with no answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/139611/how-can-i-remove-icons-from-menus-of-qt-apps. I notice that Libreoffice has no icons, how's that? I want to remove menu icons from ReText and Scribus QT apps
[20:27] <bekks> rootkit_infected: Which doesnt change that fact. An infected system needs to be reinstalled.
[20:28] <rootkit_infected> ikonia, of course not, but was installed not by me, wthout my knowledge
[20:28]  * Daghdha gives up on the bridge "I am gonna make .. A TUNNEL!!"
[20:28] <Daghdha> cu
[20:28] <ikonia> rootkit_infected: what do you want from this channel to help you ?
[20:29] <rootkit_infected> nice attitude
[20:30] <bekks> rootkit_infected: How did you detect that tftp was installed?
[20:30] <rootkit_infected> i started to see that i was broadcasting in a <IP_ADDRESS> network
[20:30] <bekks> rootkit_infected: How did you see that?
[20:31] <ikonia> rootkit_infected: what do you want from this channel to help you ?
[20:31] <rootkit_infected> ikonia, how could i remove tftpd from memory
[20:31] <bekks> rootkit_infected: Stop the process.
[20:31] <Kb45961> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[20:32] <mal__> hello! I was wondering if there is a place where I can see changes/fixes that are included in sudo apt-get upgraded packages , please? thank you
[20:32] <ikonia> rootkit_infected: what do you mean "from memory"
[20:32] <|inux> I was here yesterday and I asked a question about ubuntu 14.04 freezing up after login... and I did not get a response. However, I found a page that was great in helping me find a fix and I wanted to share in case anyone else had this issue ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/449845/problems-after-upgrading-to-14-04-only-background-and-pointer-after-login
[20:32] <ikonia> rootkit_infected: you need to stop the process and remove the binarys from disk
[20:32] <ikonia> rootkit_infected: however this is moot, as if you believe your system is comrpomised, re-install the whole system
[20:32] <rootkit_infected> i dont use a hard drive, im runing from a pen
[20:33] <ikonia> rootkit_infected: the pen is a hard disk
[20:33] <rootkit_infected> doesnt matter if is this pen or a cdrom or another pen,
[20:33] <ikonia> rootkit_infected: correct, it doesn't matter at all
[20:33] <ikonia> rootkit_infected: if it's not livemedia - re-install the whole os
[20:33] <ikonia> rootkit_infected: if this is a live media - then just reboot the system
[20:34] <rootkit_infected> grat help
[20:34] <ikonia> it is
[20:34] <rootkit_infected> tftpd was flashed
[20:34] <ikonia> "flashed"
[20:34] <ikonia> what are you talking about
[20:34] <rootkit_infected> that means its irrelevant to reboot
[20:34] <ikonia> rootkit_infected: no it doesn't
[20:34] <Pici> rootkit_infected: Are you running Ubuntu?
[20:34] <ikonia> rootkit_infected: what operating system is this ?
[20:34] <rootkit_infected> i give up
[20:34] <ikonia> it's an easy question
[20:34] <ikonia> rootkit_infected: what operating system is this ?
[20:40] <kitkat_> thanks ikonia
[20:41] <gmaf> hey.. could anyone take a look at this? not sure what is causing it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umMYT9U3gWs
[20:43] <gmaf> i'm on 12.04 btw
[20:43] <uve> can somebody help with my wifi hotspot, it connects and then disconnects, this is the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/7712896/
[20:49] <tim23> wat
[20:49] <Darkwell> hey therr
[20:50] <tim23> hey
[20:53] <Darkwell> used ntfsresize to shrink a ntfs partition did work w no errors in that... then fdisk and set the partition slightly bigger than the resize... all seemed 8k until mount attemts.. which failed both in ubuntu and win xp ... what can i do to recover the files on that disk ?
[20:59] <jnoob22> I installed and had a look at kde-plasma-desktop but it screwed up my web fonts ... example: Chrome fonts are now too light. I haven't been able to find a solution by googling, anyone run into this problem before?
[20:59] <Glorfindel> you should be able to change that in chrome, IIRC
[21:01] <jnoob22> Glorfindel, where do you see where you can make it darker?
[21:01] <Glorfindel> I'm not using chrome
[21:02] <jnoob22> I installed the Advanced Font Config plugin but still don't see anything resembling that.
[21:02] <jnoob22> ok np
[21:02] <Glorfindel> so I don't know, but most browsers do
[21:03] <uve> suddenly apt-get install isn't asking me to confirm before downloading... ?
[21:03] <Glorfindel> are you sudo-ing it?
[21:04] <uve> yes, as usual
[21:04] <Glorfindel> well I don't know then
[21:04]  * Glorfindel shrugs
[21:05] <uve> no problem, it's weird though
[21:05] <Glorfindel> are you running the term as root?
[21:05] <uve> nope
[21:08] <Surkow|laptop> hi guys, is libtar 1.2.20-4 supposed to be already backported to 14.04?
[21:09] <tiiuhuun> lol! I'm so lost.  This channel has so many partrons
[21:13] <uve> im so pissed, i punched my keyboard on another laptop cuz it kept making weird noises (it's pretty old) and suddenly ubuntu wont boot, windows is on another partition it seems to have survived but the laptop is really slow now, is this a coincidence or the punch had something to do with it? (on a bright note the weird noises went away)
[21:14] <Emer21>  Here some videos.  You punched thus laptop
[21:14] <uve> i cant even boot a livecd anymore to get into the ubuntu partition
[21:14] <tiiuhuun> My Toshiba's cooling was really solid but it couldn't run 3d stuff worth a damn
[21:16]  * tiiuhuun Goes to play around with nForce RAID options in bios to see if he can getUbuntu
[21:18] <ornj> How/can I instal the zippy module for fortune?
[21:18] <Surkow|laptop> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libtar/+bug/1315742/comments/13
[21:18] <Surkow|laptop> supposedly, an update is available for libtar and released to updates. But after 17 hours it still cannot be downloaded.
[21:18] <Surkow|laptop> any solution for this?
[21:20] <Surkow|laptop> hmm, after forcing updates and reinstalling a program that crashed previously due to libtar the problem seems to have been solved
[21:20] <trism> Surkow|laptop: not -4 it is 1.2.20-3ubuntu0.1
[21:21] <DrGrov> Is it possible to easily get a switch or WM/DE in Xubuntu 14.04 64-bit?
[21:21] <DrGrov> *of
[21:21] <Surkow|laptop> trism, it took me a while - but yeah I noticed it finally
[21:21] <Surkow|laptop> DrGrov, yes
[21:22] <Surkow|laptop> If you don't mind installing all included applications for a specific DE resulting in extra text editors, terminals and so on
[21:22] <DrGrov> Surkow|laptop: I am merely wondering if there is any breakage due to occur if I switch from XFCE to KDE.
[21:22] <Surkow|laptop> no
[21:22] <Beldar> DrGrov, New WM/DE in a switch or reboot, what exactly do you mean, or to just have others of these?
[21:22] <DrGrov> Surkow|laptop: No,  that is completely fine. I love my text editors, especially Leafpad which I always install together with Mousepad.
[21:23]  * Surkow|laptop removed mousepad
[21:23] <DrGrov> Beldar: I mean in XFCE there is the chance to enable KDE or GNOME services at startup. That perhaps is an annoyance if I switch to KDE and have mostly GTK apps and not QT?
[21:23] <Beldar> DrGrov, Ah I see, just both DE having there apps within the other, a overlap.
[21:23] <Beldar> is the result
[21:24] <Surkow|laptop> services like software updates
[21:24] <DrGrov> Beldar: Yes, a overlap is what I mean. You got what I meant :)
[21:24] <Surkow|laptop> you will see two icons in the task bar probably
[21:24] <DrGrov> That is not a big concern, I always completely customize my own task bar and menu after every fresh install.
[21:24] <Beldar> DrGrov, I'm not really up on gtk apps or qt exactly.
[21:24] <Surkow|laptop> I'd vote for a complete reinstall after yous ettled
[21:24] <DrGrov> So the overlapping is not that terribly.
[21:24] <Surkow|laptop> *are settled
[21:25] <DrGrov> Surkow|laptop: I am settled now with XFCE but love to get KDE or something new to fiddle around with.
[21:25] <DrGrov> XFCE is beautiful and lovely but I like the customizations better in KDE to be honest. But still like to have XFCE there on standby since I love it.
[21:25] <Surkow|laptop> I replaced most core applications with gnome3 variants in my setup
[21:25] <Beldar> DrGrov, If you install another DE save all the packages installed to a text doc and you can fully remove with that if needed.
[21:25] <Surkow|laptop> it was a pain, but I only care about the menu and taskbar in xfce
[21:26] <DrGrov> Beldar: Okay, that is one way to go :)
[21:26] <Surkow|laptop> xfce has bad dual head handling. Waking up isn't going well either. Didn't happen to me with the default ubuntu unity environment
[21:26] <DrGrov> But a simple WM is possible to get easily, like Fluxbox?
[21:26] <Beldar> DrGrov, true, the easiest I think the apt-get install lists them at the y/n option
[21:27] <Beldar> DrGrov, Yep all are fairly easy to get.
[21:27] <DrGrov> Beldar: Okay, so I will give Fluxbox a go then since I love the simplicity even though the specs are way overboard for Fluxbox.
[21:28] <DrGrov> Beldar: Any suggestions on what WM I should test out for a new experience?
[21:28] <NGC6205> is there an advantage to passwd -l over passwd -d to disable an account? I notice that all the system accounts are by default locked vs. having no password
[21:29] <Beldar> DrGrov, Not really, fluxbox and a bottom panel, there is one that is nice I forget the name at this point, really your looking for what you want. ;)
[21:29] <DrGrov> Beldar: Okay, I do not want any panels to be honest in Fluxbox :) I love just a custom menu and nothing else :)
[21:30] <Beldar> DrGrov, fkuxbox and tint as the bottom panel is nice
[21:30] <Beldar> tint2*
[21:30] <Beldar> Doh fluxbox tint2
[21:31] <Beldar> DrGrov, Sorry I'm practicing an instrument and sitting sideways to type
[21:32] <DrGrov> Beldar: No worries :) It is fluxbox tint2 you say :)
[21:32] <Beldar> DrGrov, Bingo. ;)
[21:32] <jnoob22> damn.... all the fonts look great except for web fonts :( any idea how to fix those? I've gone into Chrome settings and made changes to the font face and size, still the exact same
[21:32] <cipherson> Wow
[21:32] <jnoob22> any idea how to fix the web fonts so they are darker? it was working great until I installed kde-plasma-desktop .... i uninstalled ALL packages that came with it and it still looks like crap.
[21:34] <joelmo> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/gsNYU5ma
[21:38] <DrGrov> Beldar: Maybe I do not make sense when I say that I love the minimalistic approach like Fluxbox since it makes me a lot more productive as in using Fluxbox instead of XFCE
[21:38] <Elm3rl1ns> a
[21:38] <Elm3rl1ns> a
[21:38] <Elm3rl1ns> a
[21:38] <Elm3rl1ns> a
[21:38] <Elm3rl1ns> a
[21:38] <Elm3rl1ns> a
[21:38] <Elm3rl1ns> a
[21:38] <unopaste> Elm3rl1ns you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:43] <Bionic1> alo
[21:51] <Bionic1> noone speaks in general i guess...
[21:52] <Guest48276> quit
[21:52] <Guest48276> quit
[21:52] <Guest48276> exit
[22:15] <WIlsonTheTallDwa> how do I install flash manually?
[22:18] <xangua> WIlsonTheTallDwa: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[22:18] <OerHeks> WIlsonTheTallDwa, enable partner repo, and open terminal: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[22:18] <xangua> For the partner two repository is adobe-flashplugim
[22:18] <cobracommand> favorite launchpad software?
[22:20] <OerHeks> cobracommand, linux kernel, everyone has got one version
[22:21] <WIlsonTheTallDwa> xangua, OerHeks, yes I have tried sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer before. So I believe I need to enable the partner repo.
[22:22] <xangua> WIlsonTheTallDwa: are you using chromium?
[22:23] <WIlsonTheTallDwa> nop I am using firefox
[22:24] <cobracommand> oerheks nice wise answer...not
[22:25] <OerHeks> xangua, is this correct? "sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install " >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash
[22:25] <WIlsonTheTallDwa> xangua, I enabled the partner repo, but install says unable to locate the package.
[22:26] <NGC3982> !g apache helicopters
[22:26] <NGC3982> Oh wait.
[22:26] <NGC3982> Wrong channel. :D
[22:27] <xangua> OerHeks: no idea, don't use pepper
[22:27] <uve> WIlsonTheTallDwa: run sudo apt-get update
[22:27] <xangua> WIlsonTheTallDwa: what package?
[22:29] <WIlsonTheTallDwa> uve, yeah I forgot about that. thanks
[22:29] <WIlsonTheTallDwa> xangua, unable to locate the package for flashplugin-installer.
[22:29]  * helo wonders why the hell the the ubuntu server page says it is only available for 64-bit
[22:30] <YokoBR_> guys, please, how do i reset mysql password on ubuntu 13.04?
[22:30] <helo> i just did a 64-bit install because of that shit, planning to fumble around with stuff to do 32-bit builds
[22:30] <xangua> YokoBR_: upgrade to a supported Ubuntu release
[22:31] <OerHeks> WIlsonTheTallDwa, ehm, maybe it is in the multiverse repo?
[22:31] <YokoBR_> xangua, it's server edition
[22:32] <average> does Ubuntu come by default with UFW activated ?
[22:32] <average> not that it would be a problem, just asking..
[22:32] <helo> i.e. why does http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server say "64-bit only", but http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ link to ubuntu-14.04-server-i386.iso ?
[22:32] <xangua> YokoBR_: and it's not supported and neither receiving security updates
[22:32] <WIlsonTheTallDwa> I got this message after the update: http://codepad.org/Ot1VRffB
[22:32] <average> does Ubuntu 12.04 LTS come by default with UFW activated ?
[22:32] <OerHeks> YokoBR_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[22:32] <Beldar> average, none do
[22:33] <OerHeks> YokoBR_, but not upgrading is not secure
[22:33] <average> Beldar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UncomplicatedFirewall#UFW_in_Ubuntu
[22:33] <average>  "Ubuntu 8.04 LTS introduced ufw, and it is available by default in all Ubuntu installations after 8.04 LTS. "
[22:33] <average> does that mean it comes with Ubuntu activated by default?
[22:33] <average> or is it just installed by default and de-activated ?
[22:33] <Beldar> average, no, just installed
[22:33] <OerHeks> average, ufw is available, all you need is the gui, gufw and enable it in your systemsettings
[22:34] <average> OerHeks: so is it disabled by default?
[22:34] <Beldar> average, installed not activated, always has been this way.
[22:34] <OerHeks> average, no, enabled, but no rules
[22:34] <average> OerHeks , Beldar <== you two have contradictory points of view
[22:35] <Beldar> average, You get what you pay for. ;)
[22:35] <average> Beldar: I'm sorry? What?
[22:36] <average> Beldar: nobody forced you to talk if you don't know the answer
[22:36] <OerHeks> average, check yourself https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UncomplicatedFirewall  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gufw
[22:36] <average> OerHeks: thank you, I'll have a look
[22:36] <Beldar> average, As far as I know it is installed but not activated.
 does that mean it comes with Ubuntu activated by default? <average> or is it just installed by default and de-activated ? Two contradictory questions back to back kinda hard to answer clearly, any if us may fail here bro.
[22:41] <average> Beldar: Those two questions complement each other. They are not contradictory. AFAIK statements can be contradictory, not questions.
[22:44] <lloowen> Hello all. Trying to free up some harddisk space on my Ubuntu. I see that I have a lot of deb packages in /var/cache/apt/archives Are they necessary? Is it safe to delete them? Thanks
[22:44] <bekks> lloowen: Just run sudo apt-get clean
[22:46] <dave_mwi> hello, had a rough install process...windows 8, gpt partitions, etc. Finally got booted. My computer doesn't 'wake' back up from suspend. I'm probably missing some kernel options, can anyone suggest?
[22:46] <lloowen> bekks: Thanks, that did the trick
[22:47] <YokoBR_> guys, please, i'm trying to use sudo mysqld --skip-grant-tables &
[22:48] <bekks> YokoBR_: And?
[22:51] <Beldar> YokoBR_, Server or not you are eol. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[23:00] <Beldar> dave_mwi, The ubuntu suspend right?
[23:00] <A_Pickle> So, okay, it seems like I have to run "sudo dhclient eth0" every time I reboot.  Is there any way to get the server to do this automatically, or should I use a static address instead?
[23:04] <Daghdha> How can i see what driver version is used for my NIC?
[23:05] <Daghdha> i tried lsmod but i see no network things i think
[23:06] <abdulmalik> anyone know how to tunnel connections through dns servers like yourfreedom?
[23:08] <filiplap> hi, is there a currently blessed way of configuring the X server? I've tried creating HAL .fdi files, but these seem ignored nowadays
[23:08] <Bashing-om> Daghdha: -> sudo lshw -C network <.
[23:10] <neph> where are the logs for the panel indicators stored? (if they are at all)
[23:11] <filiplap> neph: I'd shoot for ~/.xsession-errors with all the other stuff
[23:13] <L0uk3> I have Xserver working on a 14.04 Trusty box. I can launch the applications I need and all is well. I much prefer it to VNC/NX etc... Problem is that I cannot figure out how to launch gnome-sesion to access the desktop environment. Rooted or Windowed does not make a diff. I keep tweaking to no avail. It looks like a bug but the research is not conclusive. Here is the error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7713602/.
[23:13] <L0uk3> Has anyone else seen and resolved this by chance?
[23:14] <neph> filiplap: no dice, it's empty
[23:14] <unkn-error> the new versions (editions) of ubuntu will have systemD?
[23:15] <Daghdha> I think i narrowed down my driver version to: <IP_ADDRESS>-NAPI
[23:16] <filiplap> neph: that would be weird
[23:17] <filiplap> neph: maybe the location chas changed lately...
[23:18] <Bashing-om> unkn-error: So the developers are working to .. join debian .. systemD is already creeping in.
[23:19] <Daghdha> Anyone here upgraded 12.04 desktops to 14.04?
[23:20] <Daghdha> .. successfully :)
[23:20] <unkn-error> what are the differences between debian packages and ubuntu packages, in general, from a "performance" point of view? Are the ubuntu packages imbuned somehow for performance, or what patches dose ussually have (leaving away branding stuff)
[23:21] <unkn-error> or the same software, with the same version will perform the same?
[23:23] <OerHeks> unkn-error, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu/ForDebianDevelopers#Why_does_Ubuntu_need_to_change_my_packages.3F__What_kind_of_changes_are_made.3F
[23:24] <OerHeks> performance should be the same i guess
[23:24] <unkn-error> Thank you, Bashing-om / OerHeks
[23:25] <mikeg3> Hi, if I want to install Ubuntu on a second HDD, can/should I install the GRUB bootloader on the first HDD that has Windows Vista already installed?
[23:25] <skinofstars> yep
[23:26] <skinofstars> mikeg3: stick the mbr and grub on whatever is the primary
[23:26] <L0uk3> mikeg3: If you install Ubuntu it will recognize the Win partition and ask you if you want to dual boot. If you answer yes it will install GRUB for you.
[23:26] <Bashing-om> unkn-error: :-) ....
[23:27] <unkn-error> mikeg3: you can install grub in the partition where ubuntu resides, if it is primary and active
[23:27] <unkn-error> there is no need to install it in the MBR
[23:27] <unkn-error> or to touch first hdd
[23:27] <unkn-error> when you wish to boot the secondary hdd, first
[23:27] <unkn-error> you will have to press F12 or what your bios need to be pressed
[23:28] <unkn-error> for opening the menu of what hdd you wish to boot
[23:28] <skinofstars> unkn-error: yeah, that's why i said stick it on the primary. i guess f12 is less intrusive though
[23:28] <Guest15039> is there an official ubuntu shop that accept bitcoin or paypal?
[23:28] <austin6598> i tried this and now the program is just stuck at loading. is there any way to revert it: http://venture4computing.blogspot.in/2013/12/how-to-root-bluestacks-custom-rooting.html#comment-form
[23:28] <austin6598> i was just trying to run a tablet game on an emulator but it was a galaxy emulator so i couldnt get it without rooting
[23:28] <austin6598> sadly something went wrong
[23:28] <Bashing-om> mikeg3: 'nother take, install ubuntu onto the 2nd hard drive, install grub to sdb, and never even touch Windows. Each can then boot independently.
[23:29] <unkn-error> mikeg3: you can also install / try / play with this: http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/
[23:32] <dundel> whois
[23:36] <WilsonB1> Has anyone  had success using multi-touch with touch screen on Ubuntu/ Kubuntu
[23:38] <OerHeks> WilsonB1, some did, join #ubuntu-touch or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch
[23:41] <WilsonB1> OerHeks thanks
[23:51] <desktop> whazzz up
[23:51] <dundel> Are there any freenode ops here?
[23:52] <desktop> http://postimg.org/image/7116y9sxh/
[23:52] <dundel> stats p seams endless
[23:52] <desktop> can some one have al look at that and tell me how to remove the user menu from menu
[23:53] <desktop> its ubuntu 14.04 using classic menu
[23:54] <desktop> can anyone help ?