[07:18] <Jucato> rouge8: I think that's also affected. But I'm not absolutely sure
[07:19] <Jucato> the partitions are still accessible through /media/<mount_point> though
[07:19] <Jucato> they just don't appear in the media:/ kio slave
[07:19] <rouge8> now if only I could find an SD card to see if that's it >.<
[07:19] <Kiongku> Jucato: btw.. if kde works well with the new startkde.. can i remove the old one?
[07:20] <Jucato> Kiongku: probably. But I'd keep it around for backup. what's a few KB anyway :-D
[07:20] <Kiongku> rouge8: did u do a thorough search on the net about ur sd card with the current kubuntu?
[07:20] <Kiongku> Jucato: hehe.. how much mem u have?
[07:20] <rouge8> unfortunately no, because I have no idea what model the reader is or anything :(
[07:21] <Kiongku> rouge8: connected by usb?
[07:21] <Jucato> btw, Kiongku, the original intent of KPersonalizer was for it to startup when you first log into KDE. Kubuntu devs decided to remove it
[07:21] <rOOb> who has a firewire card that works 100% in linux...im looking to buy one off new egga nd wanna make sure i get one that WILL work
[07:21] <rouge8> internally
[07:21] <rouge8> plugs into JUSB2 on the motherboard
[07:21] <Jucato> my card reader usually does a "trial and error" thing
[07:21] <Jucato> sometimes it reads, sometimes it doesn't
[07:21] <Kiongku> Jucato: I agree with the devs.. it does not have lots of functions that requires it to start each time
[07:22] <Kiongku> JUSB2?
[07:22] <Kiongku> is it USB?
[07:22] <rouge8> aye
[07:22] <rouge8> it's one of the internal connectors
[07:22] <Jucato> Kiongku: it was not supposed to start each time. I said "first time you log into KDE". notice the "first time"?
[07:22] <Kiongku> did u try lsusb in terminal?
[07:22] <rouge8> yup, not there :(
[07:22] <Kiongku> Jucato: well.. mine decided he was a boss and needed to start each time... now i kicked him out of the window
[07:23] <Kiongku> rouge8: hmm.. darn i never used a SD card reader..
[07:23] <Jucato> ehehe.. that's why it's a bug. It's behaving in a way that it shouldn't.
[07:23] <dein_> is anyone having trouble upgrading from ktorrent 2.0rc1 to 2.0
[07:23] <dein_> ?
[07:23] <Kiongku> Jucato: anyway.. as u said.. a few KBs.. is not the end of the world.. prolly i'll keep it around esp. with the many modifications i'm doing
[07:23] <Kiongku> kubuntu might go haywire anytime
[07:23] <rouge8> out of curiosity, are the nForce drivers from nVidia's website necessary for anything?
[07:24] <Kiongku> rouge8: what card u have?
[07:24] <Jucato> dein_: there's no KTorrent 2.0 in the repositories. the current version available in the repositories is 1.2
[07:24] <rouge8> not the graphics card, the motherboard chipset
[07:24] <ballchalk> hello
[07:24] <ballchalk> how do i start a process?
[07:24] <Kiongku> Jucato: hey.. u know the code to show all the mem in konsole?
[07:24] <dein_> this is from the website, a downloaded .deb file
[07:24] <ballchalk> restart*
[07:24] <Kiongku> rouge8: ah lol
[07:24] <dein_> dpkg: error processing ktorrent-2.0-i386.deb (--install):
[07:24] <dein_>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package kdelibs-data
[07:24] <dein_> thats the error
[07:25] <Jucato> dein_: you'd probably want to remove the older KTorrent first
[07:25] <Jucato> Kiongku: by mem, do you mean RAM usage?
[07:25] <Kiongku> dein_: may be uninstall and then install again?
[07:25] <dein_> i uninstalled it, got rid of one of the error messages
[07:25] <Kiongku> Jucato: i mean everything from ram to hdb sda
[07:25] <Kiongku> etc..
[07:25] <dein_> that one still remains though
[07:25] <Kiongku> dein_: hmm
[07:26] <Jucato> Kiongku: hmm...
[07:26] <Kiongku> XD
[07:26] <dein_> its also been purged
[07:26] <Kiongku> dein_ reset all dependencies?
[07:26] <Kiongku> i forgot the code.. i need to look for again
[07:27] <Jucato> Kiongku: for RAM usage, you can look at KInfoCenter, under the Memory options
[07:27] <dein_> did a sudo apt-get check already
[07:27] <Jucato> for a command line version, you could probably use "free"
[07:27] <Kiongku> Jucato: i mean in konsole.. theres a command u can write.. i cant remember it thought
[07:27] <Jucato> free
[07:27] <Kiongku> dein_: its not the command.. wait i thinking
[07:28] <Kiongku> darn i just used the code yesterday i think.. so short memory
[07:29] <Jucato> Kiongku: code for what?
[07:29] <Jucato> (or do you actually mean "command"?)
[07:30] <Kiongku> Jucato: reset the dependencies.. it was dpkg depmod -a or something
[07:30] <Kiongku> or i think it is..
[07:30] <Jucato> "sudo dpkg --configure -a" ??
[07:30] <dein_> kk
[07:30] <Kiongku> yeah may be.
[07:31] <Kiongku> dein_ try
[07:31] <Jucato> brb, gotta check my laundry...
[07:31] <Kiongku> lol ok
[07:31] <dein_> nope
[07:31] <D4rkly> anyone know how i can enable the 2 side buttons on my mouse ?
[07:31] <acad> what permissions should the cd writer have to use it as a user?
[07:32] <Kiongku> dein_: by nope what u mean
[07:32] <dein_> didn't work
[07:32] <unix_infidel> anyone with some insight on my acpi question, i cant seem to get fn+f4 to work on my thinkpad with dapper whereas it worked fine in breezy.
[07:32] <Kiongku> dein_: did the command work?
[07:32] <unix_infidel> this is a clean install and acpid acpi and tpb re installed.
[07:32] <dein_> did dpkg --configure -a and then tried install
[07:33] <Kiongku> hmm
[07:33] <dein_> the command worked but didn't affect the problem
[07:33] <Kiongku> tell me what ur installing again
[07:33] <dein_> ktorrent 2.0 final
[07:33] <dein_> had rc1 on there previously
[07:34] <Kiongku> its not in the repositories?
[07:34] <Jucato> nope
[07:34] <Jucato> KTorrent 1.2 is the one in the repositories
[07:34] <Kiongku> Doh.. trying to install somethign not in rep... >> trouble seeking..
[07:34] <Jucato> dein_: I'm presuming you're trying to install the .deb built specifically for Kubuntu?
[07:34] <Kiongku> well i do that myself XD..
[07:35] <dein_> yes
[07:35] <Jucato> hmm...
[07:35] <dein_> it keeps referring to /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop
[07:35] <unix_infidel> argh, anyone??
[07:35] <Jucato> MIME type problem...???
[07:35] <danish> toliman hy
[07:35] <Kiongku> lol Jucato got a heart attack
[07:35] <dein_> says that it cant overwrite it
[07:35] <danish> i selected the executable thing on firefox it still doesn't work
[07:36] <Jucato> dein_: of course you are installing with "sudo dpkg -i <package_name>" right?
[07:36] <dein_> perhaps because i have konqueror open???
[07:36] <dein_> yes
[07:37] <Kiongku> hey dein_:http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4184&sid=03ecc462ee68374bf329c573c04dfad2 check this man.. may be it'll be of use
[07:37] <Jucato> hm... you could try if closing Konqueror does solve it
[07:38] <dein_> im going to try restarting my x-session brb
[07:38] <Kiongku> dein_: lol ..as u want
[07:39] <dein> didn't work
[07:39] <dein> brb
[07:39] <Jucato> dein:
[07:39] <dein> going to ktorrent forum
[07:39] <Jucato> try the link Kiongku gave
[07:40] <dein> whats that link again :)?
[07:40] <Jucato> http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4184&sid=03ecc462ee68374bf329c573c04dfad2
[07:40] <Jucato> but it has some typos
[07:40] <Kiongku> yah
[07:40] <Kiongku> overwrite not overwritte
[07:41] <Jucato> and it's actually "--force-overwrite"
[07:41] <Kiongku> dein: may be u should thiink trying remove x-torrent.desktop as instructed in the forum
[07:41] <dein> i hadn't checked the forum
[07:42] <dein> i did the force overwrite
[07:42] <dein>  thanks ^^
[07:42] <dein> next time ill rtfm
[07:42] <Jucato> or, RTF (read the forums)
[07:43] <dein> lol
[07:43] <Kiongku> dein: lol
[07:43] <Kiongku> i solved most ppl problem by simply googling it
[07:43] <Kiongku> XDD
[07:43] <Kiongku> its amazing how little ppl think to google 1st before asking
[07:43] <dein> psshhh googling isn't for me
[07:43] <Kiongku> haha
[07:43] <phoenix198> Could anyone help me install ndiswrapper?  I'm running into a couple of issues on the install.  (I have checked the wiki  and didn't see what I needed).
[07:43] <dein> its always better to bother people who are busy
[07:43] <Jucato> lol
[07:44] <Kiongku> dein: lol.. i'll ignore u then :p
[07:44] <Jucato> Google doesn't always bring up the results you want
[07:44] <dein> nooo ; ;
[07:44] <Jucato> I've had experiences of finding the results I need in the 3rd or 4th pages
[07:44] <Kiongku> Jucato: i found the command type df -k in konsole
[07:44] <Kiongku> Jucato: same here.. buts its woth it
[07:44] <Jucato> Kiongku: well, df -h might be better (-h = human-readable)
[07:45] <Kiongku> for e.g Dein's problem was on the 4th page in google
[07:45] <Kiongku> Jucato: sorry i typoed.. yeah df -h
[07:45] <Jucato> df = checking disk space, free = memory usage, top = processes/CPU/memory usage
[07:45] <phoenix198> Anyone know anything about ndiswrapper?
[07:45] <dein> yes
[07:45] <rOOb> phoenix198, whats the prob
[07:46] <maltaethiron> hey, who wants to tell maltaethiron how to rip an ISO from a DVD movie
[07:46] <phoenix198> r00b:  I am getting errors when trying to install (following the wiki's directions)
[07:46] <dein> enable all ubuntu repositories and get ndisgtk
[07:46] <Kiongku> XD
[07:46] <rOOb> phoenix198, have u installed build-essentials?
[07:46] <h3sp4wn> phoenix198: Use the absolute latest version of ndiswrapper and the recommended driver (see the ndiswrapper wiki)
[07:46] <Jucato> "all" repositories?!?!
[07:46] <Kiongku> Jucato: whats ur df -h :P just curious
[07:46] <dein> yes
[07:46] <maltaethiron> kiongku: bro, do you ever sleep? lol
[07:46] <Kiongku> maltaethiron: yeah.. 6 hrs
[07:47] <Jucato> for which /dev/ ??
[07:47] <phoenix198> h3sp4wn:  Can't get it installed, not to that point yet.
[07:47] <maltaethiron> guys, how do i rip an iso from a dvd movie?
[07:47] <Kiongku> maltaethiron: thought the day before it was only 1 hr.. head aches afterwards
[07:47] <rOOb> phoenix198, im betting u need build-essentials
[07:47] <dein> k3b?
[07:47] <maltaethiron> nice kiongku
[07:47] <phoenix198> r00b:  Sorry, was attempting to check -
[07:47] <Kiongku> maltaethiron: lol... need more sleep..zzzz
[07:48] <Jucato> lol
[07:48] <rOOb> maltaethiron, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/where/u/want/the.iso
[07:48] <phoenix198> r00b:  What are build-essentials for it?
[07:48] <maltaethiron> kiongku: its almost 2 in the morning for me right now..im leaving for vacation in 3 hours
[07:48] <Kiongku> Jucato: ur main drives :D
[07:48] <Kiongku> maltaethiron: XD nice.. here its 9:48 am
[07:48] <maltaethiron> kiongku: so i wont be here for a week or so...so dont worry about me or anything =P
[07:48] <rOOb> phoenix198, installed make and other stuff needed to compile things
[07:48] <h3sp4wn> maltaethiro: Its 7am here (maybe I should get a little sleep)
[07:48] <Jucato> Kiongku: I have 2 HDDs, with 7 partitions in total (actually, 8, but an extended partition doesn't show up)
[07:49] <rOOb> *installs
[07:49] <maltaethiron> haha h3sp4wn
[07:49] <Kiongku> maltaethiron: i wunt.. i'll just save up a list of bugs for asking u :P
[07:49] <maltaethiron> please do kiongku, lol
[07:49] <WarOfAttrition> so 15k rpm hard drives are worth it?
[07:49] <phoenix198> r00b:  make is installed - I think everything else is as well - once I run "make" it goes through the install for a while and then comes back with errors.
[07:49] <Kiongku> Jucato: OH O_o.. whats the size of the 2 hdds?
[07:49] <Kiongku> dein: how is the ktorrent2.0beta working?
[07:49] <Jucato> hda is 20GB (old one), hdb is 80GB (slightly newer)
[07:50] <dein> its out of beta
[07:50] <D4rkly> where can i find this /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file ?
[07:50] <Kiongku> Jucato: lol.. why put the old 20gb as master XD?
[07:50] <rOOb> phoenix198, try to install build-essentials
[07:50] <dein> its 2.0 final
[07:50] <Jucato> yeah. it's an official release
[07:50] <Kiongku> dein: ah sorry.. well is it any good?
[07:50] <Jucato> Kiongku: coz it has windows xp...
[07:50] <dein> but rc1 served me well too
[07:50] <dein> yes
[07:50] <phoenix198> r00b:  running through the process once more (3rd time, ran make distclean first).  I'll post to where ever you would prefer my errors to be posted once I get them.
[07:50] <Kiongku> i wonder why the ubuntu repos are not updated yet with the final
[07:50] <dein> upnp works now
[07:51] <dein> and it has basic dht support
[07:51] <Jucato> Kiongku: 2.0 didn't make it to Feature Freeze
[07:51] <Kiongku> Jucato: oh i see. same prob here my master hdd is taken up by win
[07:51] <Kiongku> Jucato: Feature Freeze?
[07:51] <Kiongku> Jucato: u mean its release is to recent?
[07:51] <dein> ya
[07:51] <Jucato> it's a time in the development of a distro where no more new versions/releases of apps are accepted
[07:52] <Jucato> so when Dapper hit Feature Freeze, the latest KTorrent version available was 1.2
[07:52] <dein> there should be an unstable .deb repository though
[07:52] <Jucato> hehehe! we're not Debian :-D
[07:52] <phoenix198> r00b:  Almost 100% certain all build prerequisites are installed.  Where should I post my errors?
[07:52] <dein> so you can download new packages like new xine-lib
[07:52] <rOOb> phoenix198, pastebin
[07:52] <Jucato> before, there were the Backports. but they said it has been non-functional for quite some time
[07:53] <dein> well i likes my bleeding edge
[07:53] <Jucato> dein: ehehe! no one's stopping you. just don't go blaming Kubuntu/Canonical if something goes wrong :-D
[07:54] <h3sp4wn> phoenix198: What card are you using ?
[07:54] <dein> lol i wont
[07:54] <phoenix198> r00b: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20948
[07:54] <Jucato> basically, almost anything in the universe repositories fall out of the "official" support of Canonical/Ubuntu
[07:54] <phoenix198> h3sp4wn: bcm4306 I believe.  (laptop, builtin to the comp - eMachines M6410)
[07:54] <maltaethiron> r00b: oh.my.god
[07:55] <Kiongku> Well my term to try out the new ktorrent
[07:55] <Kiongku> *turn
[07:55] <Jucato> ehehe
[07:55] <Jucato> good luck!
[07:55] <maltaethiron> r00b:i typed what you had put, and nothing happened
[07:55] <D4rkly> :) [07:55] <D4rkly> lots of good tips
[07:55] <Kiongku> I'll be doing through source compile hehe :p
[07:55] <maltaethiron> so THEN r00b, i put in just the first half, and almost woke my entire house with beeps
[07:55] <phoenix198> h3sp4wn:  BCM4306, Broadcom Corp 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller
[07:55] <Jucato> Kiongku<EMAIL_ADDRESS>messy messy...
[07:56] <rOOb> maltaethiron, lol
[07:56] <rOOb> maltaethiron, makde sure u have the 1st device
[07:56] <h3sp4wn> phoenix198: have you tried bcm43xx ?
[07:56] <h3sp4wn> !bcm43xx
[07:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:56] <maltaethiron> r00b: ?
[07:56] <Kiongku> Jucato: thats my life XD..
[07:56] <rOOb> maltaethiron, like yours may be somthing else besides the one i had
[07:56] <maltaethiron> ah
[07:56] <Kiongku> dein: what did u install the normal or rc1?
[07:56] <dein> normal
[07:56] <Jucato> Kiongku:http://ktorrent.org/index.php?page=downloads
[07:56] <Kiongku> ah
[07:57] <phoenix198> h3sp4wn:  event not found - however I have tried the bcm43xx fwcutter...etc..  and got limited results
[07:57] <dein> i upgraded from rc1
[07:57] <Kiongku> yah.. dling source
[07:57] <maltaethiron> !iso
[07:57] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:57] <Jucato> the ones at the top
[07:57] <rOOb> dd if=/dev/yourdevice of=/home/username/folder/the.iso
[07:57] <Kiongku> Jucato: I filled my hdd with devs files.. should be quite ok
[07:57] <h3sp4wn> phoenix198: just use the downloaded http://drinus.net/airport/wl_apsta.o
[07:57] <Jucato> lol
[07:58] <rOOb> maltaethiron, that command will make an exact image....if u are looking to make a dvd-r that will fit on a standard burnable dvd od use somthing else
[07:58] <phoenix198> h3sp4wn:  alright, stupid question (I haven't looked into this for about a week - decided today to try ndiswrapper)  Once downloaded, what do I do with that file?
[07:58] <Kiongku> dein: u mean u did from ktorrent2.0rc1 --> ktorrent2.0 o0?
[07:59] <dein> yep
[07:59] <Kiongku> lol
[07:59] <rOOb> phoenix198, u dl it extract it..cd in in it....type make then sudo make install
[07:59] <h3sp4wn> phoenix198: just copy it to /lib/firmware
[07:59] <Kiongku> starting compile process. wish me luck
[07:59] <dein> ktorrent2.0rc1 didnt give me any trouble
[07:59] <h3sp4wn> phoenix198: then sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[08:00] <Jucato> Kiongku: luck!
[08:00] <maltaethiron> r00b: ok here's the situation: i have eurotrip in my drive.  i have to give it back to my cousin tomorow, and so i want to burn it myself on my mac later on (no dvd burner here)..SO i want to get the iso so i can then send it to my mac...
[08:00] <Kiongku> zzzz..
[08:00] <Kiongku> long process
[08:00] <Jucato> lol
[08:00] <Kiongku> oh one error gmp missing
[08:01] <Jucato> you wanna snooze while compiling? try out Slackware :-D
[08:01] <Kiongku> XD
[08:01] <Kiongku> and here we go.. another dev files to my big list
[08:02] <Kiongku> my hdd is liek 40% dev files and 60% programs
[08:02] <Kiongku> i think o0
[08:02] <maltaethiron> r00b: so what should i do?  any app i should get?
[08:02] <phoenix198> r00b, h3sp4wn:  I have it d/l'ed to a folder (wl) on desktop and directly in the /lib/firmware folder.  In both folders I extracted with "bcm43xx-fwcutter wl_apsta.o" and received no errors.  modprobe bcm43xx shows nothing
[08:02] <Kiongku> no error
[08:03] <rOOb> maltaethiron, k then id use a diff proggie......a exact iso of a dvd9 can be like 8 gigs .....id use somthing else
[08:04] <rOOb> im trying to remeber the name of the app...theres 2 good ones
[08:04] <phoenix198> r00b, h3sp4wn:  If either of you would like to do a remote desktop share, I would gladly provide one of you the IP to connect to - I would really like to get my Wireless working.
[08:04] <rOOb> !dvd
[08:04] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:06] <maltaethiron> alright, well im gonna get some sleep, 12 hour drive comin up tomorow
[08:06] <Kiongku> hehe
[08:06] <maltaethiron> see you in a week kiongku
[08:06] <Kiongku> night
[08:06] <Kiongku> maltaethiron : c ya :P
[08:06] <Kiongku> have fun
[08:06] <Kiongku> and safe trip o0
[08:06] <maltaethiron> thanks
[08:06] <rOOb> maltaethiron, k8copy
[08:06] <rOOb> *k9copy
[08:06] <rOOb> is one of the apps
[08:07] <rOOb> that should make a smaller iso of it
[08:07] <maltaethiron> k9copy is what i want to get that iso then?
[08:07] <maltaethiron> alright thanks a lot man
[08:07] <cozomo> Would anyone know the cause of kubuntu halting suddenly while compiling, or when CPU usage is consistantly high?
[08:07] <cozomo> thats on i386
[08:07] <rOOb> yea that will make a iso from the dvd
[08:07] <rOOb> and np
[08:07] <sizzam> cozomo:  could it be a heat issue
[08:08] <cozomo> I dont think so, I've never had this problem before on windoze
[08:08] <cozomo> if it is, how could I get the fan working
[08:08] <maltaethiron> lol, windoze
[08:09] <cozomo> lol internet
[08:09] <sizzam> cozomo: i had those kinds of problems when i was working the kinks out of my system.  i ended up buying a new heatsync for my processor, one with a copper core
[08:09] <sizzam> havent had any problems since then
[08:09] <unix_infidel> is it possible to change everything in init.d to their default runlevels with dpkg?
[08:12] <newbie263> hi, have just installed kubuntu from the DVD but cant install any other software from the DVD how do i add it to the sources.list file?
[08:13] <StrudelNinja____> could it have to do with me having a 19 day uptime
[08:13] <maltaethiron> alright, im leaving for real now, ill talk to you guys in a week
[08:13] <maltaethiron> later bros
[08:14] <newbie263> hi, have just installed kubuntu from the DVD but cant install any other software from the DVD how do i add it to the sources.list file?
[08:14] <dein> why dont you install off the internet?
[08:15] <Jucato> well, if he/she has the DVD and doesn't have the bandwidth...
[08:15] <newbie263> dein: internet slow, also i had downloaded dvd cause i wanted to pre-install a couple of boxes with a full KDE install
[08:15] <h3sp4wn> newbie263: use apt-cdrom ?
[08:15] <newbie263> dein: wont have an internet connection where i install...
[08:15] <Jucato> isn't it that most installations don't comment out the CD/DVD repos after installation?
[08:16] <newbie263> h3sp4wn: hmm.. thanks, let me try that...
[08:16] <newbie263> Jucato: this one does, not sure why...
[08:17] <Jucato> newbie263: is the cdrom line still there in your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[08:17] <newbie263> Jucato: its gone, no cdrom line, well.. at least i can use apt-cdrom... thnk u
[08:18] <h3sp4wn> sudo apt-cdrom add (if that doesn't work you may need to use -d /dev/dvd or some other switch)
[08:19] <Kiongku> done
[08:19] <Kiongku> compiled and installed
[08:19] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:19] <Kiongku> --force-overwrite is needed by this way too
[08:19] <Kiongku> seems cant access
[08:19] <Kiongku> the x-bittorrent or something
[08:20] <Kiongku> i only need a torrent feeder to check it now :p
[08:23] <Kiongku> damn i want a dual core cpu..
[08:23] <Jucato> hehe!   I just want something fast lol
[08:29] <dein> thinking about it, im satisfied with what ive got right now
[08:29] <dein> thanks to penguin power of course
[08:29] <unix_infidel> Jucato: linux is pretty fast with most anything assuming you're running it with out a lot of bloat.
[08:30] <unix_infidel> the same goes for windows.
[08:30] <vursitis> ?
[08:30] <Jucato> yeah it's fast... but it probably could do a bit faster....
[08:30] <Kiongku> jucato: doh?
[08:30] <unix_infidel> Jucato: if you want kde optimized, compile it for i686
[08:30] <dein> kubuntu with 3.5.3 is noticeably faster than win xp completely stripped down
[08:30] <Jucato> lol
[08:30] <unix_infidel> that's about as fast as your going to get.
[08:30] <danish> hey toliman
[08:31] <Jucato> unix_infidel: as in compile? as in it doesn't matter if I'm using the K7 kernel?
[08:31] <Kiongku> unix_infidel:.. i compiled but really dunno XD
[08:31] <danish> whats the best antivirus for linux
[08:31] <unix_infidel> Jucato: like i said, the kernel is only one layer.
[08:31] <dein> clamav?
[08:32] <unix_infidel> if you want KDE specifically faster.
[08:32] <unix_infidel> try compiling it for i686
[08:32] <Jucato> oh ok
[08:32] <unix_infidel> that's only marginally faster but that's REALLY about as fast as your going to get.
[08:32] <Kiongku> unix_infidel: ehrm u mean recompile kde manually?
[08:32] <_rince_> mrgn
[08:33] <dein> does anyone know if 64 bit wlan drivers have been released for bcmw34xx wlan?
[08:33] <unix_infidel> Kiongku: like i said its pretty asinine to do so.
[08:33] <Jucato> I was just impressed by MEPIS 6's speed, considering it's Ubuntu based and just using a 386 kernel. I was hoping the same could be done with Kubuntu
[08:33] <unix_infidel> but if your a speed junky.
[08:33] <unix_infidel> Jucato: there are probably other things that mepis traded off with for speed vs. ubuntu's functionality
[08:33] <unix_infidel> probably stuff you couldnt see.
[08:33] <Jucato> yeah... probably... that's why I'm investigating...
[08:33] <Hawkwind> Rebuilding KDE for 686 will NOT make it any faster.  Whoever believes that doesn't know much about how KDE is made
[08:34] <dein> kubuntu is pretty fast already
[08:34] <dein> and hawkwind, thems fighting words
[08:34] <Jucato> Hawkwind: he was talking about compiling the kernel, net KDE
[08:34] <unix_infidel> Jucato: nope, i was talking about KDE.
[08:34] <Hawkwind> Jucato: He said compile KDE
[08:34] <Jucato> I also thought Kubuntu was fast. until I installed MEPIS
[08:34] <unix_infidel> some distro's claim i686 optimization.
[08:34] <Jucato> oh... my mistake...
[08:34] <unix_infidel> whether that's founded in anything is really up to benchmarks.
[08:34] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: He doesn't build KDE and doesn't know that building it for 686 gives you absolutely no speed increase
[08:34] <Kiongku> doh ktorrent not good XD
[08:35] <Jucato> Kiongku: how come?
[08:35] <dein> whats wrong kiongky?
[08:35] <vursitis> does anyone know the command to shut down KDE and just run in nano?
[08:35] <dein> erm...
[08:35] <Kiongku> Jucato: the download stays stalled
[08:35] <Hawkwind> vursitis: You do NOT need to stop KDE to use nano
[08:35] <Hawkwind> vursitis: I mentioned that once already
[08:35] <Jucato> Kiongku: and it's KTorrent's fault? @_@
[08:35] <vursitis> i understand that but i dont want the GUI running at the moment
[08:36] <danish> i am trying to install avast antivirus for linux does anybody know which out of the 3 .deb .rpm or .tar.gz which package is better
[08:36] <dein> kiongku, got ports open or upnp?
[08:36] <dein> .deb
[08:36] <dein> or tar
[08:36] <Jucato> vursitis: Ctrl+Alt+F1, then "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[08:36] <Hawkwind> vursitis: killall kdm
[08:36] <h3sp4wn> danish: not necessary (unless its a mail server scanning for windows clients)
[08:36] <vursitis> thankyou much
[08:36] <Kiongku> dein: XD?? i never used ktorrent.. whats upnp
[08:37] <Hawkwind> danish: sudo apt-get install clamav
[08:37] <dein> go into preferences and go to plugins
[08:37] <king4tt4ck> hallo kann ihr wer deutsch? :D
[08:37] <Jucato> KTorrent works well by default... of course, I installed it from the repos :-D
[08:37] <dein> click upnpplugin and hopefully it works with your router
[08:37] <danish> why not avast i use avast on windows
[08:37] <Kiongku> dein: i use a usb modem
[08:37] <dein> otherwise you'll have to forward ports on your own
[08:38] <dein> no hardware firewall?
[08:38] <rredd4>  I get "cpufreq change failed with new_state 1 and result 0"  and  "psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte  1" a lot in dmesg ... can this be fixed?
[08:38] <dein> you need to punch a few holes in any firewall you may have up in order to get any torrent client working well
[08:38] <Snowmadic> anyone know of a good howto for usb keys under linux/kubuntu?
[08:38] <Kiongku> dein: hmm i dunt think so
[08:38] <danish> hawkwind: HOW do i install .deb package
[08:39] <Hawkwind> danish: Give up on the 'Windows junk'  You're using Linux now
[08:39] <dein> hmmmm
[08:39] <Hawkwind> danish: sudo apt-get install <package> or if you downloaded a .deb package for some unknown reason, dpkg -i filename.deb
[08:39] <king4tt4ck> are the kubuntu apt sources.list and the ubuntu sources.list the same?
[08:39] <trpr11> yes
[08:39] <danish> hawkwind: thx
[08:40] <danish> hawkwind: but i'll go with clam if u say
[08:40] <king4tt4ck> but i cant finde some packages for amarok
[08:40] <Hawkwind> danish: What did you download a .deb package of ?
[08:40] <Kiongku> hey guys.. i just realised i dunt have firewall, any suggestion?
[08:40] <dein> try putting <IP_ADDRESS> in konqueror kiongku?
[08:40] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Got a router ?
[08:40] <dein> usb modem
[08:40] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: nope using a usb modem
[08:40] <hsn_> is there RIPv1 (routed) daemon?
[08:40] <Kiongku> dein: cannot connect to host
[08:41] <dein> hmm
[08:41] <trpr11> Kiongku: because there aren't any ports open by default, the firewall isn't setup by default for some stupid reason.. its just iptables though.
[08:41] <danish> hawkwind: avast antivirus
[08:41] <trpr11> Kiongku: so you can create a iptables firewall script or get a frontend for iptables to do it for you
[08:41] <Snowmadic> no?
[08:41] <dein> i didn't think iptables was set up by default on kubuntu
[08:41] <Kiongku> trpr11: so so? what should i install.. from the norma repos
[08:42] <Kiongku> guys.. is shorewall any good?
[08:42] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: No
[08:43] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: But that's a personal opinion
[08:43] <trpr11> Kiongku: maybe someone can recommend a frontend. i have no idea; i usually create a script of iptables commands. iptables should already be installed, but without any rules defined
[08:43] <danish> Reading package lists... Done
[08:43] <danish> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:43] <danish> Package clamav is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:43] <danish> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:43] <danish> is only available from another source
[08:43] <danish> E: Package clamav has no installation candid
[08:43] <Hawkwind> danish: STOP!
[08:43] <Hawkwind> !pastebin
[08:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:43] <Hawkwind> danish: ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[08:43] <trpr11> Kiongku: try sudo iptables -L ... should bring up a blank list of rules
[08:43] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: ok.. normally ur personal opinion are nice.. whats ur opinion for one then :p
[08:43] <danish> hawkwind; thats the messege i got
[08:43] <Kiongku> trpr11: ok i trying
[08:44] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: ipkungfu which is written and coded by trappist here in #Kubuntu
[08:44] <dein> hmm he may need to learn to use iptables though
[08:44] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: It's not graphical at all.  But I set it up all by myself after only using Linux for 10 days at the time
[08:44] <Kiongku> ya iptables not set
[08:44] <Kiongku> hmm ipkungfu.. where the heck is it :p
[08:45] <Kiongku> doh i see it.. ok i give it a try
[08:45] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: sudo apt-get install ipkungfu
[08:45] <dein> btw kiongku, what torrent are you trying to get?
[08:46] <Kiongku> pirates of the caribean XD..
[08:46] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: what is ur version of ipkungfu
[08:46] <dein> you sure the torrent isnt just dead
[08:46] <dein> ?
[08:46] <Kiongku> dein: we'll know soon. setting up iptables
[08:47] <dein> cuz alot of "those" torrents aren't seeded often, and as such are perpetually stalled
[08:47] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: I don't use it anymore.  I have a router and this box has no services/ports open to it.  My outside boxes use 0.60 which isn't in Ubuntu.  0.52 is available in most all distros
[08:47] <Kiongku> dein: yah
[08:47] <Kiongku> ah ok
[08:47] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: I used it for many years though.  I remember back in the 0.10 days when it was just being developed
[08:48] <dein> kiongku: go to ktorrent, click the torrent you're downloading and see if there are any seeds or peers on what you're downloading
[08:48] <dein> its in the status tab under info
[08:48] <Kiongku> i installed it.. so its set now?
[08:48] <danish> hawkwind its not working
[08:49] <Hawkwind> danish: Can you be a bit more specific....It's not working means absolutely nothing
[08:50] <danish> hawkwind: the command u gave me for clamv
[08:50] <Hawkwind> danish: Enable the correct repositories or use apt-cache search clamav to search for the package name
[08:50] <noiesmo> !clamav > danish
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clamav - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: i installed ipkungfu.. what do i do with it now?
[08:51] <danish> hawkwind: nothing happened
[08:51] <Kiongku> dein: send me a torrent thats working so that i can test it
[08:51] <dein> ok
[08:51] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: man ipkungfu and read the docs.  It's probably the best documented app I've ever seen for linux
[08:51] <Hawkwind> !info clamav
[08:51] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 64 kB, installed size 200 kB
[08:52] <Hawkwind> danish: Again, that is a very broad and general statement.  You need to be specific when you are in need of help
[08:52] <dein> Kiongku: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//kubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[08:52] <danish> hawkwind: sorry i am new to all this i typed apt-cache search clamav in the console and nothing happened
[08:53] <noiesmo> danish you need the universe repo's in your sources.list based on the paste you did before
[08:53] <Hawkwind> danish: Then you need to enable all the repos
[08:53] <dein> be sure to delete that torrent and its files btw, its the 600 mb iso for kubuntu
[08:53] <Hawkwind> !repos > danish
[08:53] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: How do i come out of man ipkungfu?
[08:54] <dein> q
[08:54] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: q
[08:54] <Kiongku> dein: ya lol :p
[08:54] <Kiongku> ok
[08:54] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: sudo /etc/init.d/ipkungfu start    It will error with a message.  Read it and do what it says
[08:55] <azmodean> man, I remember being stuck in man and emacs for ages when I was first getting started
[08:55] <Kiongku> sure
[08:55] <Hawkwind> azmodean: Heh.  It's a crappy feeling.  I remember it too
[08:55] <dein> oh ya kiongku, you also wanna throttle your upload speed when using ktorrent, otherwise you risk it eating all your bandwidth and slowing your internet to a crawl
[08:55] <dein> when i first started linux i started on suse 9.3
[08:55] <dein> read nothing about it just installed it
[08:56] <dein> took me 3 weeks to get it working perfectly again (3d acceleration didnt work though)
[08:57] <Snowmadic> I can see something showing up on the usbfs, but can't seem to follow most of the howto's, as they refer to sda1, 2, etc, and I have no /dev/sd entries.
[08:57] <Snowmadic> :|
[08:57] <Kiongku> dein: i know
[08:57] <dein> oh ok
[08:57] <dein> it working?
[08:57] <Snowmadic> anyone know whether or not kubuntu does something differently that would explain the lack of an /dev/sda?  that's where I mount this usb drive on my debian box, wondering why it doesn't work now.
[08:58] <Snowmadic> or rather, why it doesn't work here.
[08:58] <dein> actually, i was wondering why my midi's don't work
[08:58] <dein> if anyone can help with that
[08:58] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: is it safe to run without a firewall?
[08:59] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: If you have a router, sure.  If you don't, then I'd say no
[08:59] <Jucato> i don't have a software firewall
[08:59] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Your system is only as secure as *you* make it
[08:59] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: how i know if it is a router?
[08:59] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: You would know if you own a router or not.  Atleast I would hope you would
[08:59] <dein> well <IP_ADDRESS> usually configures routers
[09:00] <Snowmadic> or .0.1 for netgear
[09:00] <dein> since that didn't work on your system its probably safe to say you dont have one
[09:00] <Snowmadic> actually, both my dlink and my netgear configure on <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:00] <dein> shhh
[09:00] <Kiongku> hmm
[09:01] <Snowmadic> blah.  I sleep now.  to hell with getting this file anywhere.
[09:01] <Kiongku> ~_~..
[09:01] <Kiongku> its a usb modem.. direct connect to net.. so i gues no router
[09:01] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: No, that's a modem
[09:02] <Hawkwind> A router is a router, a modem is a modem
[09:02] <Kiongku> :D
[09:02] <Kiongku> ok
[09:04] <Kiongku> doh
[09:04] <Kiongku> Desktopsecure
[09:04] <Kiongku> panda
[09:04] <unix_infidel> anyone know of a non de specific daemon / app that displays hardware sound volume not pcm or master?
[09:04] <Kiongku> i had a very bad experience with panda in windows.. i wunt touch it again
[09:04] <Jucato> I have an ADSL modem, is that also a router?
[09:05] <Kiongku> nah jacato..
[09:05] <Kiongku> *jucato
[09:05] <Kiongku> hawkwind says modem is modem
[09:05] <unix_infidel> Kiongku: try tab completion its yummy.
[09:05] <unix_infidel> eg type juc and then press [tab]
[09:05] <Jucato> lol!! i've been using it a lot
[09:05] <Jucato> in Konsole, in Konversation... ehehehe
[09:06] <Kiongku> omg..
[09:06] <Kiongku> i was manually typing it XD
[09:06] <Jucato> ehehe
[09:06] <Jucato> something new you learned
[09:06] <unix_infidel> yes you were.
[09:06] <Kiongku> i cant understand anything for firewall in linux.. i dunt even know how to start ipkungfu
[09:06] <Jucato> you could also press Tab multiple times if there are multiple matches
[09:07] <Jucato> Kiongku: neither do I. I won't go in there yet. I'll read about it soon.
[09:07] <Jucato> Right now, I'm just presuming that I'm not important enough to be hacked :-D
[09:07] <Jucato> I'm sure that I don't have anything important anyway :-D
[09:07] <Kiongku> Jucato: k
[09:08] <Kiongku> Jucato: well.. i dutn care.. i toying with the system XD
[09:08] <_bulut> merhaba
[09:08] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: I told you how to start it earlier
[09:08] <Hawkwind> _bulut: English ?
[09:08] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: Sends me to a readme?
[09:08] <_bulut> no
[09:08] <_bulut> turkish
[09:09] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: No, it tells you what file to edit so that ipkungfu will start
[09:09] <Hawkwind> !turkish
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about turkish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <Hawkwind> !tk
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <Hawkwind> Hmmm, not sure what the country code for Turkey is
[09:09] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: doh
[09:09] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: I mentioned that earlier
[09:10] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: IPKF happens to be the best documented app I've ever seen for Linux.  You can't go wrong with it and it's so very easy to get running
[09:10] <Jucato> then there's Guarddog....
[09:10] <Kiongku> ok
[09:10] <Kiongku> lol
[09:11] <Jucato> lol
[09:11] <unix_infidel> http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40639000/jpg/_40639766_baby_afp203body.jpg
[09:11] <unix_infidel> muahaha.
[09:12] <ironfroggy> are there any packages for pyogre?
[09:15] <Kiongku> whem
[09:15] <Kiongku> Hawkwind
[09:15] <Kiongku> i cant run the command u gave me
[09:15] <Kiongku> does not exist
[09:22] <Kiongku> getting errors with ipkungfu o0
[09:23] <Kiongku> whats insmod
[09:24] <trpr11> insmod loads modules into the kernel
[09:25] <Jucato> lsmod displays which ones are loaded?
[09:25] <Jucato> and rmmod reoves them?
[09:25] <trpr11> yup
[09:25] <Jucato> removes*
[09:25] <Dimon08> an what is modprobe?
[09:25] <Jucato> if you removed a module, would they be restarted next time you boot?
[09:26] <trpr11> its like insmod, but it will load a modules dependencies as well
[09:28] <slougi> Jucato: it depends on whether the module was automatically loaded in the first place
[09:28] <Jucato> oh
[09:28] <slougi> if it was, yes, if not, no
[09:29] <slougi> so if when you boot up it was loaded, then it should be loaded again on the next boot
[09:29] <Jucato> oh...
[09:29] <slougi> there's /etc/modules where you can manually add modules to be loaded
[09:29] <trpr11> Jucato: looking in /etc/modules, i see modules that are loaded at boot
[09:29] <slougi> but that's usually not necessary nowadays...
[09:30] <trpr11> its a pretty short list. where is the rest of the behavior defined? modules.d?
[09:30] <Kiongku> whats iptables "mangle"?
[09:30] <Jucato> does lsmod display modules that are loaded on startup? coz l had 164 the last time. but after uninstalling a lot of stuff, it was reduced to 94
[09:30] <slougi> it often is autodetected nowadays, try running pcimodules
[09:30] <trpr11> Jucato: no. lsmod lists what is currently loaded
[09:31] <slougi> Jucato: lsmod lists what is currently loaded. some things require kernel modules to work, it might be that you had something like that installed
[09:31] <slougi> i seems to have 130 modules loaded
[09:31] <Jucato> thanks
[09:31] <slougi> I wouldn't worry about it as long as it works
[09:31] <slougi> :P
[09:32] <Jucato> anyone here who successfully installed/used Splashy?
[09:32] <trpr11> i agree. and i you are gonna worry about it, you might as well build a monolithic kernel.
[09:32] <charles1952> Can anyone tell me how to switch from Grub to Lilo...I hear it is better. Risks, tips, etc. would be appreciated. ????
[09:33] <Jucato> nah. I'm just worried about things that I don't need/use. that and startup seemed faster after I uninstalled some stuff
[09:33] <slougi> charles1952: why exactly do you want to switch? in my experience lilo is a lot more fragile than grub
[09:33] <trpr11> better how? because distributions have been making that switch the other way around. ditching lilo for grub
[09:33] <Phirax_On_Laptop> "charles1952: why exactly do you want to switch? in my experience lilo is a lot more fragile than grub" agreed
[09:34] <charles1952> Well...it's just htat sort of tip ihat is so helpful. I monitored an earlier converation....
[09:34] <slougi> Jucato: startup time is dominated by services loaded for the most part. stuff like mysql, apache, etc. module loading takes a few seconds at most
[09:34] <charles1952> where the two were discussed...someone said Lilo offer better stability.
[09:34] <Jucato> slougi: and ACPI, Powernowd, HP, CUPS, etc... these I didn't need
[09:34] <slougi> lilo is more traditional, yes. but it has to be rerun every time the kernel is upgraded, and it's conf file is a bit more obtuse...
[09:35] <slougi> stay with grub, it's cool ;)
[09:35] <charles1952> Phirax: 'scuse the typos...its late and I'm tired
[09:35] <slougi> Jucato: yeah, stuff like that
[09:36] <charles1952> slougi: thanks...seems to be a concensus to stay with Grub.
[09:36] <Kiongku> hey ppl.. how do i know if a firewall is running in my system?
[09:37] <slougi> charles1952: np
[09:39] <ubuntu> does anyone here know if atheros drivers (madwifi) is removed from 6.06.1? i'm on a 6.06 livecd and it findsmy card, but after i install and update and reboot it doesnt see it
[09:40] <unix_infidel> ubotu: nope, atheros drivers should work fine.
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nope, atheros drivers should work fine. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <Jucato> hehehe
[09:40] <unix_infidel> erm, he left :P
[09:41] <Jucato> no he didn't
[09:41] <Jucato> *** ubuntu is now known as taylor_slc.
[09:41] <taylor_slc> ok, thanks i will look into it more
[09:47] <apexified> whenever I add a to-do entry in kontact it asks which resource (of two choices) to use and then adds two of the same entries. that's not normal... right? :)
[09:48] <redblades> Hey all!
[09:48] <redblades> I use Ubuntu usually, but I thought I'd give KDE a go too.
[09:48] <redblades> (although I was slightly annoyed when konsole crashed the first time I installed it last night)
[09:54] <Jucato> I have a question about KMail. Is there a way to download ALL mail on the server (using Gmail), something like what happens with Outlook?
[09:55] <Kiongku> can a folder deny permission to access?
[09:55] <Jucato> Kiongku: if you set the permissions right
[09:55] <Kiongku> Jucato: .. hmm
[09:55] <Kiongku> Jucato: i want to access it XS...
[09:56] <ubuntu> whats up?
[09:56] <Kiongku> a folder denying me permission to access
[09:56] <Jucato> who is the owner of the folder, and what are the permissions on it?
[09:56] <dawiz> hey now
[09:56] <Kiongku> dunno
[09:56] <slougi> Jucato: you mean removing it from gmail when it's downloaded locally?
[09:56] <Kiongku> it was auto installed
[09:56] <Jucato> slougi: no.just download it all, both read and unread ones
[09:56] <dawiz> can anyone tell me how to edit this file?
[09:57] <Jucato> Kiongku: you can check it in Konqueror or by doing ls -l <directory name>
[09:57] <dawiz> trying to get my broadcom chips working
[09:57] <slougi> Jucato: ah, don't know
[09:57] <farous> Jucato: i think you need to set that on gmail
[09:58] <Jucato> because it seems that KMail only downloads unread mail, and only if it hasn't been fetched by any e-mail client. So if I read the mail in Gmail, or read it in Thunderbird or in XP, KMail won't download it anymore
[09:58] <dawiz> anyone?
[09:59] <slougi> Jucato: well, you can poke around the kmail settings a bit
[09:59] <dawiz> trying to enable universe repository
[09:59] <farous> Jucato: this is a gamail sett i had similar prob with evol
[09:59] <slougi> are you trying to edit /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:59] <tk> dawiz: you can see the owner and permissions for the folder by doing "ls -la" in the directory that its in
[10:00] <dawiz> owner and permissions?
[10:00] <Jucato> farous: when I have fetched the e-mail in Evolution, KMail won't fetch it anymore...
[10:00] <dawiz> im trying to edit a file
[10:00] <Jucato> tk: Kiongku was the one asking about that
[10:00] <tk> woops
[10:00] <Jucato> ^_^
[10:00] <tk> dawiz: sorry, I crossed my eyes again :P
[10:00] <dawiz> sources.list
[10:00] <dawiz> all good
[10:00] <slougi> dawiz: you can edit sources.list directly in adept
[10:01] <dawiz> hmmm
[10:01] <slougi> hold on a sec...
[10:01] <Jucato> and when my sister was using Outlook, she would be able to download all the mail from her Gmail inbox...
[10:01] <dawiz> im not used to everything done in the gui
[10:01] <tk> or if you prefer a text editor, can do kdesu kate etc/apt/sources.list
[10:01] <Jucato> all ofit...
[10:01] <dawiz> coming from slack
[10:01] <slougi> try View | Manage Repositories
[10:01] <dawiz> powerpc
[10:01] <tk> dawiz:  vi familiar to you then?
[10:01] <dawiz> yeah
[10:01] <dawiz> or pico
[10:01] <slougi> dawiz: coming from slack, you should know vi, sudo, and what root is...
[10:02] <tk> sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:02] <dawiz> of course
[10:02] <dawiz> im in sources.list now
[10:02] <Jucato> (Ubuntu has no root, so regular "su" won't work unless you create/enable a root account)
[10:02] <dawiz> im in root already
[10:02] <dawiz> not sure how to script the line tho
[10:03] <tk> doesnt the bot have a trigger for repos?
[10:03] <slougi> Jucato: actually, all *nix systems need a superuser (ie root) account, ubuntu just doesn't set a password for it by default ;)
[10:03] <ubuntu> try sudo passwd
[10:03] <ubuntu> and set the root pass
[10:03] <dawiz> i hate when readme's say "edit this" expecting you to know what to edit
[10:03] <dawiz> lol
[10:03] <ubuntu> sure. hehe
[10:04] <dawiz> anybody running wifi?
[10:04] <Jucato> ok. so I presume that "disabled root account" just means a root account with no password?
[10:04] <ubuntu> me
[10:04] <dawiz> broadcom chipset?
[10:04] <ubuntu> noup
[10:04] <slougi> dawiz: deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse <- something like that
[10:04] <slougi> just choose a local mirror, and drop multiverse if you don't want it
[10:04] <slougi> Jucato: yes
[10:05] <slougi> Jucato: you can do for example `sudo su -` to get a real root shell
[10:05] <Jucato> or "sudo -i"?
[10:05] <tk> slougi: doesnt sudo -s do the same? :P
[10:05] <slougi> yes they do :p
[10:05] <Jucato> sudo -i and sudo -s....
[10:05] <Jucato> argh!
[10:05] <ubuntu> mjm
[10:05] <ubuntu> well see you
[10:05] <slougi> but I am used to typing that back from when I switched to ubuntu and had had only limited exposure to sudo ;)
[10:06] <ubuntu> im going to sleep
[10:06] <Jucato> me too. just a quick one-hour catnap :-D
[10:06] <tk> i think im gonna go back to 64bit this weekend and setup chroot or one of the flash setups and see how well that work
[10:06] <tk> +s
[10:07] <joop> mogguh mensen
[10:08] <joop> hallo?
[10:09] <dawiz> how can i tell if universe repositories is enabled?
[10:09] <joop> weet iemand misschien hoe ik een logitech webcam draaiende krijg in kubuntu linux?
[10:10] <joop> can somebody tell me how i can install a driver for logitech for kubuntu linux?
[10:10] <joop> iemand? anybody?
[10:11] <slougi> a driver for what exactly?
[10:11] <unix_infidel> !info mplayer
[10:11] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[10:11] <joop> for a logitech webcam
[10:11] <slougi> logitech makes lots of stuff, ranging from keyboards and mice to web cameras
[10:11] <slougi> what model?
[10:11] <unix_infidel> wow, vmware-player is in multivers?
[10:12] <joop> quickcam messenger
[10:12] <unix_infidel> but server isnt :P
[10:12] <farous> joop: test it first through camorama
[10:12] <joop> i get only a blue field in the window
[10:12] <joop> no picture
[10:13] <farous> !cam
[10:13] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:14] <joop> tnxs ubotu i go look there
[10:15] <dawiz> can someone tell me what to do here?  you can enable the universe component by editing the file "/etc/apt/sources.list" after installing ubuntu
[10:16] <farous> dawiz: uncomment (remove the #) the lines that have universe in the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:16] <dawiz> ahhh ok
[10:16] <dawiz> thanks
[10:16] <farous> :)
[10:16] <dawiz> couldnt remember
[10:16] <dawiz> osx has kinda dumbed me up
[10:17] <dawiz> havent had to edit anything in a while
[10:17] <dawiz> lol
[10:17] <farous> lol
[10:17] <tk> anyone knwo why I would have to reinstall fuse everytime I reboot to get it to work again?
[10:18] <dawiz> if theirs 2 #'s remove both right?
[10:18] <farous> tk do fuse provide a driver module
[10:18] <tk> farous: not sure
[10:19] <farous> tk yah it do it is the driver that is not loaded that is all
[10:19] <farous> tk: sudo nano /etc/modules and add fuse to the end of it
[10:19] <farous> tk: just for you to be sure lsmod |grep fuse will tell you it is loaded :)
[10:20] <tk> before I add this line to modules?
[10:20] <farous> dawiz: which 2 one for main the other for updates i think
[10:20] <tk> yah it is, I reinstalled it everyreboot to get my drives remounted :P
[10:20] <farous> lol
[10:20] <tk> when you find what works, you run with it ;)
[10:20] <farous> yah
[10:21] <tk> /etc/modules is empty
[10:21] <tk> nm
[10:21] <tk> /et/modules is empty ;)
[10:21] <farous> tk: strange give me a min
[10:21] <farous> might be a spell
[10:22] <dawiz> ##  uncomment  the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' repository
[10:22] <tk> farous: no no, I typod first time, I opened /et/modules ET/ not ETC ;/
[10:22] <farous> tk: nope it is correct i have fuse in it too :)
[10:22] <dawiz> take both off?
[10:22] <tk> maybe i need to add my bluetooth as well so I stop unplugging it everyreboot to get it to recognize my devices?
[10:22] <farous> dawiz: do not take this line off. only the ones that start with deb or deb-src
[10:23] <farous> tk: do you use fuse and sshfs for ntfs?
[10:23] <tk> fuse and ntfs-3g
[10:23] <farous> i use it just for remote ssh heard it might be for ntfs too
[10:24] <farous> ok thanx tk
[10:24] <farous> !repos dawiz
[10:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repos dawiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:24] <dawiz> ok last two lines
[10:24] <dawiz> got em
[10:24] <farous> !repos > dawiz
[10:24] <Kiongku> anyone uses ipkungfu?
[10:24] <tk> ntfs-3g is nice... so far no reported failures since they released this version
[10:25] <farous> tk: have no need for it i nearlhy do not touch ntfs
[10:25] <dawiz> what is repos?
[10:25] <farous> dawiz repositories
[10:25] <tk> yah, my 300gig USB drive is NTFS because I dualboot
[10:25] <dawiz> oh
[10:25] <liku> Hello.
[10:26] <unix_infidel> how do i make it to where in konqueror when i want to enter a folder it have to double click instead of single click
[10:26] <unix_infidel> ?
[10:26] <farous> tk i was lucky i got it fat32 will format it ext3 in the near fut
[10:26] <liku> A quick question: could someone point me to repository, where can I find recent linux kernel sources? (I'm trying to follow some guide on ubuntu page, but I can't find one package)
[10:26] <farous> !repos
[10:26] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:26] <tk> farous: ahh if I oculdnt write to it in unix I'd just make more of my 100gig HD (internal) for kubuntu then ;)
[10:27] <farous> :)
[10:27] <tk> farous: but I had seen some good ntfs r/w systems just before I reinstaled kubuntu so i wasnt too worried
[10:27] <tk> now i just want to get bcak to 64bit and try to get 32bit flash working in it
[10:28] <farous> tk: my main prob is ownership and modes
[10:28] <unix_infidel> anyone?
[10:28] <tk> ownership in ntfs?
[10:28] <tk> unix_infidel: its in the system setting... under uhm
[10:28] <farous> is not supported that is why i do not like it
[10:28] <dawiz> n ow apt-get says it cant find fwcutter
[10:28] <farous> !info fwcutter
[10:28] <ubotu> Package fwcutter does not exist in dapper
[10:29] <farous> !info  bcm43xx-fwcutter
[10:29] <ubotu> bcm43xx-fwcutter: Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In component universe, is optional. Version 20060108-6build1 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 100 kB
[10:29] <dawiz> im reading the dapper how to
[10:29] <farous> there you go
[10:29] <tk> farous: ahh I dont use file ownership on mine anyways... just me and my wife and we each have our own laptops :P
[10:29] <unix_infidel> tk: thanks, now i know where to look.
[10:30] <dawiz> i know what it is
[10:30] <farous> tk: cool :)
[10:30] <dawiz> but where do i get it?
[10:30] <farous> dawiz: read ubotu link it say universe repos
[10:31] <liku> !easysource
[10:31] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:31] <farous> dawiz: did you sudo apt-get update
[10:32] <Kiongku> !netfilter
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netfilter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <Kiongku> !info netfilter
[10:32] <ubotu> Package netfilter does not exist in dapper
[10:33] <tk> unix_infidel: I used to know which panel it was under but now i cant find it... regional and accessibility is what stands out to me though
[10:33] <unix_infidel> tk: nah, its under mouse settings :P
[10:34] <unix_infidel> i wasnt being sarcastic....that was driving me nuts since i started using konq in KUbuntu like 4 months ago.
[10:34] <unix_infidel> LOL
[10:34] <tk> really? I looked there too, geez
[10:34] <tk> duh
[10:34] <unix_infidel> :P
[10:34] <tk> regional is for using a win-enabled keyboard :P
[10:34] <unix_infidel> maybe someone should create a factoid :P
[10:34] <unix_infidel> i bet that bothers a LOT of windows converts.
[10:35] <unix_infidel> maybe i should bring it up in the next #ubuntu-meeting meeting for KUbuntu.
[10:35] <tk> hehe
[10:36] <tk> unix_infidel:  my biggest annoyance is hitting win+r for run and not working :P but I know how to fix it
[10:36] <unix_infidel> tk: i dont have a windows button.
[10:36] <unix_infidel> (a godsend)  i just use control + r
[10:36] <tk> I have logitechs dinova desktop... i have a bunch extra keys ;)
[10:36] <tk> just a matter of getting them all to work...
[10:37] <tk> one I finish this forum update for my buddy, it wont matter, reinstalling 64bit and starting over with all my updates and crap *smirks*
[10:37] <tk> s/one/once
[10:38] <tk> and making a valiant attempt to setup dual monitor (svid + lcvd) so I Can still watch my tv shows on my tv instead of on the laptop with kubuntu
[10:38] <tk> lcd rather
[10:39] <unix_infidel> tk: yea, i have an s510 from logitech.
[10:39] <unix_infidel> wireless, no remote, but its nice, only 20bucks
[10:39] <tk> hehe, I wish mine only cost 20$ :P
[10:40] <tk> I like it though because I can use it as a remote in windows for WMP and Winamp when I'm watching movies on my tv.... so it feels like im watching cable or something back home with that extra over functional remote)
[10:41] <tk> which reminds me, I think im 2 weeks behind now on my tv shows :/
[10:41] <tk> too bad azureus wont boot right for me
[10:41] <unix_infidel> tk: heh, yea i dont have time for TV.
[10:42] <tk> unix_infidel: me either... so I download them and watch at my liesure :P I own a TV solely to hook it to my laptop and watch movies/shows on after work on on the weekend when I'm not working a project for my buddy in England
[10:42] <tk> that and it was $90 verus $200 and my wife wanted another TV for back home anways... so I'll just ship it home when I go back soon
[10:45] <unix_infidel> yea...
[10:46] <unix_infidel> why?
[10:46] <tk> crap... im gonna have to reboot just to do this update... because I cant get a stable ftp client in Kubuntu
[10:46] <tk> I got some friends that used to live there
[10:46] <unix_infidel> gftp is choice.
[10:46] <tk> I grew up a few hours south of there ;)
[10:47] <tk> yah gftp i think is the first i tried
[10:47] <h3sp4wn> tk: ncftp is rock solid
[10:47] <unix_infidel> it works well too.
[10:48] <tk> ok, gonna give it a try
[10:48] <tk> i use wget to download my ftp stuff... but I Dont think it does uploads does it?
[10:48] <h3sp4wn> wput
[10:49] <tk> said unrec command
[10:49] <h3sp4wn> !info wput
[10:49] <ubotu> wput: A tiny wget-like ftp-client for uploading files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5-3 (dapper), package size 46 kB, installed size 152 kB
[10:50] <tk> you would think it would come with wget *grumbles*
[10:53] <tk> h3sp4wn: thanks, didnt think to check repo for it :P uploading in progress
[10:53] <tk> maybe with a lil luck I'll have this crap done before another hour passes
[10:57] <dawiz> dont know how to haNdle .deb files
[10:58] <tk> one sec dawiz
[10:58] <dawiz> i have bcm43xx-fwcutter_20060501-5_powerpc.deb
[11:00] <tk> this is from a differnt package but just change the name
[11:00] <tk> sudo dpkg -i qc-usb-messenger-source_1.1-2_all.deb
[11:00] <dawiz> me?
[11:01] <tk> yes
[11:01] <tk> dawiz: sudo dpkg -i yourdebfilename here
[11:06] <dawiz> dpkg: error processing sudo (--install): cannot access archive: no such file or directory
[11:07] <tk> weird
[11:07] <dawiz> what directory shouild it be in?
[11:07] <tk> shouldnt matter
[11:09] <syntaxx> before i shift to ubuntu im using debian sarge my tvtime sound working fine.. but when i shift to ubuntu my sound have a problem no voice just buzzzzz anyone who can help me?
[11:10] <aliasfred> dpkg: error processing sudo (--install): cannot access archive: no such file or directory
[11:10] <aliasfred> you likely typed the wrong command
[11:10] <aliasfred> dpkg doesnt know about sudo
[11:11] <manu_> if u wanna login via root do #sudo passwd    then u can login as root
[11:12] <Healot> sudo -i
[11:12] <syntaxx> before i shift to ubuntu im using debian sarge my tvtime sound working fine.. but when i shift to ubuntu my sound have a problem no voice just buzzzzz anyone who can help me?
[11:14] <sorush20> the dumbest thing happens during adept package apdate
[11:15] <sorush20> first the logo comes up saying that there are updates then I click on the logo on the  task bar and upcomes the adept updater.. after that I'm asked to fetch updates instead of installing the updates its already detected ..
[11:15] <sorush20> why is that..
[11:16] <sorush20> if apt has already determined there are updates why is it wanting to check for updates again?
[11:19] <tk> sorush20:  i believe "fetching" in this sense, means downloading the files it needs to install them
[11:20] <Healot> tk, where is tl?
[11:20] <Healot> i mean tcl
[11:22] <tk> Healot: why are you asking me? heh
[11:23] <Healot> hehe you're tcl's partner
[11:23] <tk> ohhh I see, a comedian
[11:25] <aliasfred> tk: first time you hear this one i guess :)
[11:26] <tk> first time someone was uhm... yah, to actually say it, yes
[11:26] <Healot> just delivering my geek joke...
[11:26] <tk> references have been made before, but nothing like that
[11:26] <syntaxx> before i shift to ubuntu im using debian sarge my tvtime sound working fine.. but when i shift to ubuntu my sound have a problem no voice just buzzzzz anyone who can help me?
[11:27] <Healot> syntaxx, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base"; next adjust the volume using your favorite mixer
[11:27] <Healot> but to play mp3 or other restrictedformat media
[11:27] <Healot> !restrictedformat
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restrictedformat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <Healot> !mp3
[11:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:28] <Healot> hohoho
[11:28] <syntaxx> ok ill try it
[11:29] <dawiz> frickin sweet
[11:29] <tk> !restricted
[11:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:29] <tk>  thats what you were looking for ;)
[11:29] <Kiongku> bleh
[11:29] <syntaxx> Healot: it still buzzzing no voices
[11:29] <Kiongku> my 3dr kernel compile..
[11:30] <Kiongku> *3rd
[11:30] <vge> can somebody explain how i can do updates with apt-get when program that's beeing updated is running in the same time?
[11:31] <Kiongku> vge: why not close program?
[11:31] <vge> well it seems that i dont need to
[11:31] <vge> i just wanna know why is that
[11:31] <grothesk> How do I start kubuntu without X? Is there a grub command?
[11:32] <tk> vge: because unix isnt as restrictive as windows, you can reinstall an executable and restart it using kill -HUP and not have to shutdown at all
[11:33] <Kiongku> the power of linux XD
[11:33] <vge> tk: i know that in a degree, but how come the old prog still open dont mind that it has been updated, but works as nothing has happened?
[11:34] <vge> untill i restart it
[11:34] <tk> a program is generally loaded into memory... so HD access is minimal if at all if possible
[11:34] <Kiongku> tk: if i miss a module in kernel compile.. have to compile the kernel all over again?
[11:35] <tk> Kiongku: dunno, I dont do custom kernels, I would suspect you could just load the module on boot using /etc/modules though
[11:36] <Kiongku> tk: oh ok nvm.. if u miss the module .. it does not show up in new kernel.. no module to load
[11:36] <aliasfred> Kiongku: the module may be already compiled for you, if not, you would have to compile it yourself but no need to recompile the whole kernel tho
[11:37] <tk> Kiongku: I intsalled fuse w/o recompiling my kernel it still shows up at a module though
[11:37] <Kiongku> aliasfred: can u teach me how to compile the addiontal module or send me a link to HowTO
[11:37] <Kiongku> mine is ip table
[11:37] <Kiongku> iptable_mangle .. i miss that
[11:38] <aliasfred> Kiongku: hmm i dont remember on top of my head but i would say that iptable_mangle is already available, what make you think it is not already compiled ?
[11:39] <Kiongku> aliasfred: it is in normal dapper release.. but its a custom kernel i'm talking about
[11:39] <aliasfred> hmm you did recompile your kernel already ?
[11:39] <aliasfred> so you only want the instruction to build only the module ?
[11:40] <Kiongku> nah its in the process.. such a lenthy process XD... oh well nvm.. if its still not good i'll prolly ask
[11:40] <Kiongku> for now i'll let it compile .. in the background
[11:41] <Kiongku> aliasfred: any experinece with ipkungfu?
[11:41] <aliasfred> http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/Kernel-Build-HOWTO.html#MAKE-MODULES
[11:41] <aliasfred> no experience in ipkungfu
[11:41] <aliasfred> i dont understand where are you
[11:42] <aliasfred> i mean you need to recompile your own kernel, can you explain why ?
[11:44] <Kiongku> aliasfred: well i cant get iptable_mangle to load bcoz its not even presetn in the modules
[11:44] <aliasfred> so you recompile your kernel only to have iptable_mangle ?
[11:45] <aliasfred> other people seems to have it without recompiling http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-185151.html as an example
[11:45] <Kiongku> aliasfred: XD yeah.. it was the easiest solution for me
[11:46] <aliasfred> i think you should try to find it already compiled
[11:47] <Kiongku> aliasfred: modprobe iptable_mangle does not work.. with the limitied knowledge i have... already stuck
[11:47] <aliasfred> locate iptable_mangle ?
[11:48] <Kiongku> aliasfred: how?
[11:48] <aliasfred> just type "locate iptable_mangle" in a terminal and see if you got the module
[11:48] <aliasfred> it will try to find it on your whole disk, assuming locate db is up to date :)
[11:50] <Philip5> if i want to install kubuntu for a 64bit intel cpu should i still use the amd64 version???
[11:50] <Philip5> or is there no intell 64bit kubuntu release?
[11:54] <Kiongku> aliasfred: well anyway nvm.. i'll wait for my new kernel to finish
[11:55] <epitaf> hello. i cant get my sound card working, what should i do? its a audiophile 2496
[11:55] <aliasfred> ok
[11:56] <Kiongku> aliasfred: haha
[11:57] <Kiongku> epitaf: sorry.. no idea with sound.. my sound worked OOTB
[11:57] <epitaf> lspci gives me: 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712 [Envy24]  PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02)
[11:58] <epitaf> Someone told me before the linux install that i should intall something called K7 because i am on a non-64 AMD cpu. could that be a solution?
[11:58] <Kiongku> may be.
[11:58] <Kiongku> u can try
[11:59] <epitaf> i did a search in the package manager for k7, but i dont knwo what to choose
[12:00] <MuJ> linux-image-2.6.???-k7 something.. but it totally depends if you have k7 processor or not =)
[12:00] <epitaf> mr processor is a AMD Athlon XP-A, 1100 MHz (5.5 x 200)
[12:01] <Dimon08> hey I have athlon xp 1600, and my kernel is k7-smp; smp will be desabled by default or i need another kernel?
[12:02] <Kiongku> doh.. my intel processor rocks XD.. no need to look for strange kernel.. and compilingmy own :p
[12:02] <Kiongku> frankly whats k7 anyway o0?
[12:02] <epitaf> MuJ: any idea?
[12:02] <epitaf> i listed my cpu above
[12:03] <MuJ> epitaf: k7 works for you.. if you update your kernel you need to reinstall your graphics drivers too and possibly some other stuff
[12:03] <stray77> epitaf, did you try 'sudo modprobe snd-via82xx'
[12:03] <Dimon08> k7-smp is the only k7 kernel in Dapper?
[12:04] <epitaf> stray77: no, i'll try right away
[12:04] <MuJ> though I'd rather use 686 kernel than k7 :/
[12:04] <Kiongku> stray77: stray.. whats k7?
[12:04] <stray77> amd cpu i assume
[12:04] <epitaf> stray77: i got: FATAL: Module snd_via82xx not found. FATAL: Error running install command for snd_via82xx
[12:05] <stray77> try replacing the xx with actual chipset numbers of your sound chip
[12:05] <Kiongku> hey.. should he not try locate if he has or not that snd_via82xx thingi
[12:05] <epitaf> stray77: would that be "ICE1712"
[12:05] <sorush20> tk: no its not downloading the files in the sense to install its really just doing a sudo apt-get update..
[12:08] <syntaxx> before i shift to ubuntu im using debian sarge my tvtime sound working fine.. but when i shift to ubuntu my sound have a problem no voice just buzzzzz anyone who can help me?
[12:08] <epitaf> stray77 : i got: FATAL: Module snd_via82ICE1712 not found.
[12:10] <Sanne> epitaf: you can do a : modinfo snd_via<tab> to list available modules
[12:10] <Kiongku> yay my new kernel has finished compiling
[12:10] <Kiongku> installing new kernel..
[12:10] <epitaf> Sanne : i dont think it has available modules.. all i get is a pc speaker beep
[12:11] <epitaf> Sanne : I have disabled the onboard AC97 controller though, beucase I only want to use the audiohpile 2496
[12:11] <Sanne> epitaf: hmmm, I get none either. modinfo snd<tab> lists all, but that may not help...
[12:11] <JohnFlux> epitaf: do:   ls /lib/modules/$(uname -4)/kernel/sound/pci
[12:11] <Kiongku> BRB ppl.. moving to new kernel :p
[12:12] <JohnFlux> uh
[12:12] <JohnFlux> epitaf: do:   ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/sound/pci
[12:12] <epitaf> Sanne :  modinfo snd<tab> gives the pc speaker sound too
[12:12] <epitaf> JohnFlux : ls: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/sound/pci: No such file or directory
[12:13] <JohnFlux> epitaf: one sec
[12:14] <JohnFlux> epitaf: this is a normal kernel?  you didn't install your own or anything?
[12:14] <epitaf> JohnFlux : that "sound" catalog does not exist on my computer
[12:14] <JohnFlux> epitaf: do:   ls /lib/modules
[12:14] <JohnFlux> epitaf: what kernels does it list there?
[12:14] <fek_> moin
[12:14] <epitaf> JohnFlux : this is a normal kernel, i did the alternate install
[12:14] <epitaf> JohnFlux : 2.6.15-26-386
[12:14] <Sanne> epitaf: that's weird, the modules should have been installed with the kernel.
[12:15] <epitaf> is it because i disabled the ac97 controller in my BIOS?
[12:15] <stray77> epitaf, when you do an lsmod, do you see soundcore?
[12:16] <epitaf> stray77 : no
[12:16] <stray77> epitaf, if youre tryin to get the onboard sound goin it need to be enabled in bios, if youre trying to install a soundcard, leave onboard  sound disabled
[12:16] <JohnFlux> epitaf: do:   apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.15-26-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386
[12:16] <stray77> you need soundcore
[12:16] <JohnFlux> epitaf: maybe a reinstall will work
[12:16] <JohnFlux> ;)
[12:17] <epitaf> JohnFlux : shouldnt i get the k7 image?
[12:17] <epitaf> i have been told so
[12:17] <stray77> as opposed to what?
[12:17] <JohnFlux> well currently you aren't running the k7 image
[12:17] <epitaf> JohnFlux : no, but my cpu is AMD Athlon XP-A, 1100 MHz (5.5 x 20
[12:17] <JohnFlux> stray77: you are running the generic 386 image
[12:18] <epitaf> and someone told me to get the k7 after i installed
[12:18] <JohnFlux> you can if you want
[12:18] <JohnFlux> you probably won't notice a difference
[12:18] <JohnFlux> up to you
[12:18] <epitaf> ok, then i wont then :)
[12:18] <epitaf> i'll just go with what you said
[12:19] <epitaf> JohnFlux : E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:19] <epitaf> JohnFlux : E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:19] <epitaf> oh
[12:19] <JohnFlux> epitaf: close the ubuntu update program thingy
[12:19] <epitaf> hehe, my bad i think
[12:19] <JohnFlux> you probably have that open
[12:19] <epitaf> the synaptic package manager was running
[12:19] <JohnFlux> yeah
[12:20] <JohnFlux> that's it
[12:20] <JohnFlux> ;)
[12:20] <epitaf> :)
[12:21] <epitaf> JohnFlux : ok, its done. i'll reboot and brb
[12:22] <JohnFlux> epitaf: good luck
[12:22] <JohnFlux> epitaf: if it doesn't work, try a different kernel ;)
[12:22] <epitaf> thanks :)
[12:25] <stray77> epitaf, you sure that card works in a pc as opposed to a mac?
[12:25] <stray77> oops
[12:29] <flaccid> i have problem where i can't sudo
[12:29] <flaccid> i get incorrect passwd
[12:30] <flaccid> yet it works from another account
[12:30] <flaccid> is there a sudo'ers list or something?
[12:30] <flaccid> how can i troubleshoot
[12:32] <Riddell> flaccid: you need to be in the admin group
[12:33] <nagyv> Hello! Yesterday I have installed kubuntu to one of my friends, and the basic settings are so nice, that I would like to reset my whole system. (Includeing the installed applications.) Is there a simple way, but reinstall?
[12:33] <adivoinea> hello. is there a way to install postscript (pfm/pfb) fonts on ubuntu?
[12:34] <epitaf> JohnFlux : what do you know, it works :) thanks a lot!
[12:34] <thoreauputic> nagyv: if you mean the KDE interface, you can get back to defaults by moving ~/.kde I think
[12:34] <flaccid> hehe thanks Riddell just realised that
[12:34] <stray77> epitaf, r u saying your sound works now?
[12:35] <nagyv> thoreauputic: I would like to do more then this, a whole reset including the installed programs, and so
[12:35] <thoreauputic> nagyv: ah, that's a bit more work :)
[12:36] <thoreauputic> nagyv: probably not really worth the time and bother
[12:36] <nagyv> thoreauputic: my idea is to click on purge for the linux kernel (or something similar  core program), and then click on install for kubuntu-desktop
[12:36] <flaccid> Riddell: done, but still not work? anything else i have to do, whats that command to see my groups?
[12:37] <thoreauputic> nagyv: you can probably purge the qt libraries ( that will get rid of pretty much everything in KDE) Riddell might have a better idea as he is a developer for Kubuntu
[12:38] <jott> Riddell: could you please explain why the amarok (k)ubuntu diffs are changing all Makefiles (unlike the debian patches)? is this really needed?
[12:38] <yannoickb44> hello, i have kubuntu dapper on a AMD64 and it worked fine until two days ago. Now i get a black screen just after kdm. Do you know this problem ?
[12:38] <epitaf> stray77 : yes it works :)
[12:39] <Riddell> flaccid: `groups`, you need to log out and in again
[12:39] <nagyv> thoreauputic: I was already messing up so much everything on my laptop, that I think kde won't be enough, this is why I think about purgeing something more important thing :(
[12:39] <thoreauputic> nagyv: or purge  kdelibs*
[12:39] <flaccid> ty
[12:39] <Riddell> jott: that's just autoconf doing it's thing.  debian has debian/patches/buildprep.diff
[12:39] <thoreauputic> nagyv: well if you have gtk stuff you could do something similar with libgtk* I imagine
[12:40] <thoreauputic> nagyv: fairly drastic steps :)
[12:40] <nagyv> thoreauputic: and after if I click on install in the same adept session, then should it be ok? (and as a final step I would delete the .* files from my home dir)
[12:40] <flaccid> Riddell: still didn't work
[12:40] <syntaxx> before i shift to ubuntu im using debian sarge my tvtime sound working fine.. but when i shift to ubuntu my sound have a problem no voice just buzzzzz anyone who can help me?
[12:41] <flaccid> i can su no problem, but sudo don't work after logging back in groups command returns admin
[12:41] <nagyv> thoreauputic: I have already tryed to get rid of everything {ubuntu, but not kubuntu} packages
[12:41] <thoreauputic> nagyv: how re you going to use adept after purging stuff it depends on? Unless it is in RAM it will disappear in a puff of smoke I would think
[12:41] <thoreauputic> nagyv: if you must do this, i would use apt-get and or aptitude from the command line
[12:41] <jott> Riddell: there is no buildprep.diff (at least not in the amarok_1.4.1-3.diff) also they also made ruby as dependency ... so are there other critical issues?
[12:42] <nagyv> thoreauputic: I don't wan't to accept the changes (purging), just get a view of them, and then change back the very basic things to installed
[12:42] <jott> Riddell: (i'm building a svn deb)
[12:42] <thoreauputic> nagyv: try sudo apt-get -s remove < list of things you want to try here >
[12:43] <thoreauputic> -s for "simulate"
[12:44] <sorush20> if there a ubuntu program that  Ican use to unformat
[12:44] <Riddell> jott: actually debian does a tar within .orig for amarok so they don't have buildprep Makefile changes
[12:45] <west-en> best bruning program is ... ?
[12:45] <west-en> what is the best burning program fr kubuntu?
[12:45] <Riddell> but they have DEB_KDE_CVS_MAKE := yes so the result is the same
[12:45] <yannoickb44> hello, i have kubuntu dapper on a AMD64 and it worked fine until two days ago. Now i get a black screen just after kdm. Do you know this problem ?
[12:45] <thoreauputic> west-en: k3b
[12:45] <Riddell> jott: amarok in edgy also has ruby as a dependency
[12:46] <west-en> k3b? but i already have that, and i can't make supervideocds in it
[12:46] <thoreauputic> I don't even know what a "supervideocd" is :)
[12:46] <jott> Riddell: yes.. i looked at this patch as it metioned that this is difference to the debian package ...
[12:47] <MuJ> #kubuntu
[12:47] <MuJ> #kubuntu [13:46]  [MuJ(+i)]  [16:#kubuntu(+cfn #ubuntu-unregged)]
[12:47] <MuJ> [#kubuntu]  #kubuntu
[12:47] <MuJ> aaarhg... stupid putty
[12:47] <west-en> a supervideocd is like a videocd but better queality
[12:47] <jott> Riddell: but as for now it will be fine to use some modified debian patches i guess....
[12:51] <visham> hey can anyone tell me how to change the console colors(no gnome, kde etc ie., when gdm is off)?
[12:51] <without-wires> hello
[12:53] <visham> hey can anyone tell me how to change the console colors(no gnome, kde etc ie., when gdm is off)?
[12:55] <Sanne> nagyv: I have a list of installed packages just after my kubuntu installation, would that somehow help you?
[12:55] <west-en> r det bara jag som hr det i extremt lngsam takt
[12:55] <visham> hey can anyone tell me how to change the console colors(no gnome, kde etc ie., when gdm is off)?
[12:55] <nagyv> Sanne: I think so :)
[12:56] <Sanne> nagyv: ok, wait a sec, I'll upload it somewhere.
[12:57] <Sanne> nagyv: http://sanne.phpnet.us/kubuntu/kubuntu-6.06-packages.txt
[12:58] <nagyv> it's really weird! I started (just to see what should I change) to purge and remove everything. Then I added bakc kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-core, and the Linux kernel is still would not be installed. It seems that they doesn't depend on it.
[12:58] <nagyv> Sanne: thx
[12:59] <nagyv> Sanne: is there a program to have a similar file for my actual installation?
[12:59] <Sanne> nagyv: you're welcome :). Keep in mind that the versions don't reflect the 6.06.1 updates, though.
[12:59] <nagyv> Sanne: of course, the name will be hopefully enough for me
[12:59] <Sanne> nagyv: I'll get you the command I used, just have to verify quickly, sec.
[01:02] <Sanne> nagyv: replace "filename.txt" with a name of your choice: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l > filename.txt
[01:04] <nagyv> Sanne: thx
[01:05] <Sanne> nagyv: yw. Want me to explain the parts of the command so you can adjust if needed?
[01:07] <nagyv> Sanne: thx, what I see: CLOUMNS the width of the table, dpkg the package manager, with option -l (probably list), > put it into filename.txt I am right? I am more-or-less novice, so I understand a lot, but can do little on my own.
[01:07] <Sanne> nagyv: yeah, all correct :)
[01:09] <nagyv> I think I arrived to froze Adept. :( Will the changes be saved? (I hope not!)
[01:10] <Sanne> nagyv: usually if you need kill an app it won't save
[01:20] <jujimufu> ok, so I try to reboot on my PC with my old ubuntu menu.lst file and initrd and all, and while it boots normally, I get to the screen with the blueish kubuntu logo and the loading bar below, and it says the usual stuff like "Starting Network     Ok" etc etc, but then, after all of this finishes, I get to the same screen, with the loading bar empty, and writing nothing below and doing absolutely nothing. It just freezes there., Any ideas?
[01:22] <jujimufu> now ,after waiting for 5 minutes, it says "restarting Common Unix printing system: cupsd                        ok" and it just stays there...
[01:23] <Kiongku> new kernel up and working
[01:23] <Kiongku> aliasfred: yo u here?
[01:24] <Philip5> jujimufu: try to set spash=off when you boot and if the kubuntu splash screen first turn black and then you see the kubuntu logo again then i think it's your xorg.conf that need tweaking
[01:24] <Philip5> splash=off
[01:26] <jujimufu> wait
[01:30] <jujimufu> Philip5: I still get the kubuntu screen
[01:30] <jujimufu> Philip5: I will reboot and chroot to my disk and restore my backed up xorg.conf
[01:31] <Philip5> jujimufu: do you get a splash screen even with splash=off?
[01:31] <jujimufu> yeay
[01:32] <Philip5> try splash=silent then
[01:32] <jujimufu> but that splash screen used to work fine
[01:32] <jujimufu> then I experimented with a new kerne;
[01:32] <jujimufu> the new kernel wouldn't boot, so I restored my menu.lst and tried to reboot
[01:32] <Philip5> but if you don't have the splash screen you will see what happens better
[01:32] <jujimufu> yeah
[01:33] <jujimufu> well, I will restore my xorg.conf and see what happens then
[01:33] <buz> is anyone using google earth linux on dapper?
[01:33] <jujimufu> thanks :)
[01:33] <jujimufu> buz: I've used it, yeah :)
[01:33] <buz> jujimufu: mine is totally buggy
[01:33] <Philip5> jujimufu: have you updated your kernel but use ati or nvidia drivers?
[01:33] <jujimufu> buz: it is? where id you get it from
[01:33] <buz> randomly inserts totally wrong textures
[01:33] <jujimufu> Philip5: I have intel i915
[01:33] <buz> google
[01:33] <jujimufu> buz: I got it from automatix.
[01:33] <jujimufu> buz: getautomatix.org
[01:33] <jujimufu> !automatix
[01:33] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[01:34] <jujimufu> it is a script that automatically installs LOTS of stuff.
[01:34] <buz> could it be that the nvidia drivers are troubling because i use twinview?
[01:34] <buz> i know automatix ;)
[01:34] <jujimufu> I wouldn't know, I have intel i915
[01:34] <buz> is i915 fast enough for google earth?
[01:34] <buz> (that is about the only thing i ever use 3d for anywaY)
[01:34] <jujimufu> google for "google earth"+linux+nvidia+twinview or something
[01:35] <jujimufu> buz: well, it runs xgl just fine on kororaa, so yeah, I think it is :)
[01:35] <buz> i must have another definition of running fine ;)
[01:35] <jujimufu> eh
[01:35] <buz> something that doesnt survive 1 day of work isn't running fine ;)
[01:36] <jujimufu> well..
[01:36] <jujimufu> yeah :)
[01:39] <crazy_penguin> Good afternoon everyone!
[01:41] <jujimufu> ok guys
[01:41] <jujimufu> the link /etc/X11/X , where does it normally link to?
[01:41] <fdoving> jujimufu: /etc/X11/X -> /usr/bin/Xorg
[01:41] <VincentMX> hi
[01:43] <jujimufu> fdoving: do I do something wrong? The command for linking is: ln -s <target directory> <filename>, isn't it?
[01:43] <jujimufu> because I type ls X and it just prints the filename
[01:43] <fdoving> jujimufu: ln -s /usr/bin/Xorg /etc/X11/X
[01:43] <jujimufu> ok thanks
[01:43] <VincentMX> does anybody know why i dont have sound on my laptop? multimedia applications do run, but none of them make any sound
[01:43] <fdoving> jujimufu: ln -s sourcefile newlink
[01:44] <_thumper_> hi all
[01:44] <_thumper_> having issues with ipv6
[01:44] <_thumper_> I have blacklisted it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:44] <_thumper_> rebooted
[01:44] <_thumper_> but#
[01:44] <_thumper_> modprobe -l ipv6 shows it loaded
[01:44] <SleepGoss> blacklist ?
[01:44] <_thumper_> yeah
[01:44] <jujimufu> Philip5: I found what the problem was - I had accidentally removed /etc/X11/X ...
[01:44] <SleepGoss> why u didn't use aliases list ?
[01:45] <jujimufu> fdoving: thanks ;)
[01:45] <z421> hello!
[01:45] <Philip5> jujimufu: then it's not strange it didn't work :)
[01:45] <jujimufu> hey z421
[01:45] <fdoving> _thumper_: did you follow a howto?
[01:45] <jujimufu> Philip5: yeah, but I hadn't noticed :)
[01:46] <z421> yesterday i changed my hostname in the /etc/hostname file, and today (after a reeboot) i can't access sudo, because auf that error: "sudo: unable to lookup winnie via gethostbyname()". what can i do agnainst this problem?
[01:46] <_thumper_> fdoving: not a real howto but one on ubuntuforums
[01:46] <jujimufu> how do I start kdm from console?
[01:46] <fdoving> _thumper_: do you have the link?
[01:46] <jujimufu> meh, nevermind
[01:46] <_thumper_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206692
[01:47] <_thumper_> from gOOn, post #7
[01:47] <z421> can it be, that the problem ist in the /etc/hosts? because <IP_ADDRESS> is linked to z421-desktop.
[01:48] <_thumper_> my apt-get has ip addresses resolved to <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:48] <fdoving> z421: yes, you have to edit /etc/hosts too.
[01:48] <_thumper_> seems to be our router here stuffs up on ipv6
[01:48] <SleepGoss> _thumper_ i followed a howto yesterday, (but don't remember URL) that tell to add 3 lines in aliases list and comment the original one
[01:48] <fdoving> _thumper_: you're just half way there.
[01:48] <z421> fdoving: and how can i do this now?
[01:48] <_thumper_> SleepGoss, I also changed the alias file as well#
[01:49] <_thumper_> but IIRC it was just changing ipv6 to something else
[01:49] <z421> fdoving: but why!? under debian it wasn't nessacery to do this ...
[01:49] <fdoving> z421: depends on the configuration of /etc/host.conf
[01:50] <_thumper_> alias net-pf-10 ipv6 -> alias net-pf-10 off
[01:50] <_thumper_> in aliases
[01:50] <fdoving> z421: i belive debian have the same configuration as we ((k)ubuntu).
[01:50] <fdoving> _thumper_: correct, did you do that too?
[01:50] <_thumper_> yep
[01:51] <z421> fdoving: thanx, i'll use the ubuntu live cd to correct this problem.
[01:51] <fdoving> _thumper_: this is what i do: in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases change: alias net-pf-10 off
[01:51] <fdoving> ehm.. bad paste. anyway..
[01:51] <fdoving> change alias net-pf-10 ipv6 to alias net-pf-10 off
[01:52] <_thumper_> fdoving, yep did that yesterday
[01:52] <fdoving> _thumper_: and at the bottom set: alias ipv6 off
[01:52] <_thumper_> fdoving, ahh, missed that bit
[01:52] <fdoving> that's the missing part then.
[01:52] <_thumper_> fdoving, thanks - rebooting now
[01:55] <demente> hi all!
[01:56] <Kiongku> hey guys.. how do i write a command in autostart to be executed as root?
[01:56] <fdoving> at boot time? or at login time?
[01:57] <demente> Hello? Sorry, I'm not sure If I've logged in yet or not....
[01:57] <Kiongku> fdoving i want sudo ipkungfu to be executed at login time i guess
[01:57] <fdoving> Kiongku: what ipkungfu?
[01:57] <Kiongku> fdoving: its a firewall
[01:57] <fdoving> ok, you want the firewall to be setup before the network interface is brought up, right?
[01:58] <Kiongku> fdoving: nope i rather it runs after that.. it fetch ip from the interface
[01:58] <fdoving> Kiongku: you can put a file in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ make it executable and put your ipkungfu into it.
[01:58] <fdoving> ah, ok.
[01:59] <fdoving> Kiongku: then i'd suggest using /etc/network/if-up.d/ instead
[01:59] <Kiongku> hmm
[02:00] <Kiongku> fdoving: shoudl i put script or ipkungfu itself?
[02:00] <Kiongku> and will it run as root bcoz it need root access otherwise it returns error
[02:00] <fdoving> yes, that's exactly what /etc/network/if-up.d/ is for.
[02:01] <fdoving> _thumper_: did it work for you?
[02:01] <Kiongku> ok.. so i put ipkunfu itself?
[02:01] <_thumper_> fdoving, does "lsmod | grep ipv6" mean that it isn't loaded?
[02:01] <Kiongku> *ipkungfu?
[02:01] <_thumper_> if it returns nothing
[02:01] <Kiongku> ya
[02:01] <z421> re
[02:01] <z421> okay, it's working again.
[02:01] <fdoving> _thumper_: that would mean success, yes :)
[02:01] <_thumper_> fdoving, then it wasn't my problem :(
[02:02] <Kiongku> fdoving: ehrm.. should i pu a script or ipkungfu itself?
[02:02] <fdoving> _thumper_: ok, what is the symptoms of your problem then?
[02:02] <_thumper_> if I do apt-get update, I get names resolved to <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:02] <_thumper_> if I then ping, ping works
[02:02] <fdoving> Kiongku: if ipkungfu is a script, you can safely put it there.
[02:02] <Kiongku> fdoving: i'l give it a try
[02:02] <Jucato> still with the ipkungfu?!?!?!
[02:02] <_thumper_> Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[02:02] <Kiongku> jucato: hehe yeah man
[02:02] <_thumper_> ING archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[02:03] <_thumper_> missing P
[02:03] <Jucato> don't you ever go to sleep? ehehe
[02:03] <fdoving> _thumper_: ok, hang on.
[02:03] <Swatgoss> stupid question ... we use ipv4, ipv6 is configured by default, but where is ipv5 ?
[02:03] <fdoving> _thumper_: try to run 'env|grep -i proxy' from the commandline.
[02:03] <VincentMX> anybody knows how i can set my sound deamon to arts?
[02:03] <Kiongku> Jucato: Lol
[02:04] <fdoving> Swatgoss: doesn't exist :)
[02:04] <Swatgoss> Jucato i just wake up ...
[02:04] <_thumper_> fdoving: nothing
[02:04] <fdoving> _thumper_: ok, do you have any proxy settings anywhere, that you're aware of?
[02:04] <_thumper_> fdoving: it is a fairly new install
[02:04] <_thumper_> none that I'm aware of
[02:04] <Swatgoss> fdoving don't exist like AMD K9 archi or noone never worked on it ?
[02:04] <Jucato> whoa! how many hours of sleep did you get? I just went for a short catnap, and ended up sleeping for 3 hours...
[02:05] <Jucato> err.. now he left :-D
[02:05] <Swatgoss> Jucato me ?
[02:05] <Jucato> no. Kiongku :-D
[02:05] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: I never bothered with sleeping (and its too late now)
[02:05] <fdoving> Swatgoss: never been thought of at all, i guess. :)
[02:05] <Jucato> lol ehehe
[02:05] <fdoving> _thumper_: ok, do you have a /etc/apt/apt.conf file? does it say anything about proxies?
[02:06] <asimon> Swatgoss: ipv5 was an experimental protocol which never got public usage.
[02:06] <Jucato> let's see what Google spits out about ipv5 :-D
[02:06] <Jucato> kool! asimon's here :-D
[02:06] <_thumper_> fdoving: it is commented out with //
[02:06] <asimon> Jucato: :)
[02:06] <Jucato> wb Kiongku
[02:06] <_thumper_> / Acquire::http::Proxy "false";
[02:06] <Kiongku> fdoving: to test out if it works.. should i restart completely or just end session and relog in?
[02:06] <fdoving> Swatgoss: http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2003/06/what_ever_happened_to_ipv5.html
[02:06] <Swatgoss> asimon lol like K9 archi :p would be surprising that it had never been used ...
[02:06] <Jucato> Swatgoss: and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv5
[02:07] <Swatgoss> ty
[02:07] <Jucato> fdoving: that's the first search result in Google, eh? :-D
[02:07] <asimon> Jucato: That is where I have my ipv5 knowledge from. ;-)
[02:07] <fdoving> Kiongku: flush any firewall rules, bring down the network interface, and bring it back up.
[02:07] <fdoving> Jucato: yes.
[02:07] <kai> Hi there!
[02:07] <Jucato> kool
[02:07] <Kiongku> Kiongku: bring it down? and how flush..
[02:07] <Kiongku> oops
[02:07] <Jucato> lol
[02:07] <Kiongku> fdoving:  XD.. bad habti of mine
[02:08] <fdoving> Swatgoss: so it apparently exists :)
[02:08] <kai> My Kubuntu-splash during boot-time is gone. reinstalling the packages doesn't help. Ideas?
[02:08] <Kiongku> Jucato: i still yet to master tab
[02:08] <Jucato> ^_^
[02:08] <Kiongku> fdoving: how flush?..
[02:08] <Jucato> SubNet: what does it show now when you boot?
[02:08] <SubNet> Texct-Bootmessages
[02:09] <Jucato> hmmm...
[02:09] <SubNet> Same thing during shutdown
[02:09] <Jucato> do you remember doing anything before this started happening?
[02:09] <fdoving> Kiongku: download and run this: http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/scripts/rc.flush-iptables.txt
[02:09] <SubNet> I had problems with this before. After an update through adept-updater it happened
[02:09] <fdoving> Kiongku: that will flush all your iptables rules.
[02:10] <SubNet> Maybe grub is the problem?
[02:10] <Swatgoss> as far as i red (sry, don't remember my past time of read) no reason are explained, not fast enough, major incompatibility ... all this kind of thingsenough
[02:10] <Jucato> SubNet: nope. nothing to do with grub. something with USplash
[02:10] <SubNet> kernel-option splash should start the splash, doen'
[02:10] <SubNet> t it
[02:10] <Swatgoss> - enough
[02:10] <Jucato> SubNet: try entering this command in Konsole: "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so"
[02:10] <SubNet> OK.
[02:11] <Jucato> then choose the one labelled "kubuntu-artwork-something..."
[02:11] <fdoving> Kiongku: now you can check that all rules were flushed with 'sudo iptables-save', then bring down the interface 'sudo ifdown eth0' if eth0 is your network interface. and then 'sudo ifup eth0' to bring it back up, to check that the firewall script was executed use 'sudo iptables-save'
[02:11] <asimon> fdoving: Regarding that script: shouldn't the flush commands come before defaulting the policies to accept?
[02:11] <VincentMX> anybody knows how i can set my sound deamon to arts?
[02:11] <Jucato> "kubuntu-splash.so"...
[02:11] <fdoving> asimon: don't think that would matter. would it?
[02:12] <scorpion007> Hi, has anyone got problems running KWord in dapper? It fails to load with the following errors: koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: kwordpart.desktop not found. koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: Run 'kde-config --path services' to see which directories were searched, assuming kde startup had the same environment as your current shell. koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: Check your installation (did you install KOffice in a different
[02:12] <scorpion007>  ?)
[02:12] <Jucato> SubNet: what does it show?
[02:12] <fdoving> asimon: http://www.faqs.org/docs/iptables/rcflush-iptablestxt.html
[02:12] <asimon> fdoving: Well the tiny timeframe between could accept unwanted traffic. Probably not much to do havok, but I think it would be better practive to first flush the talbes and then set the policies to accept.
[02:12] <scorpion007> The funny thing is, I'm able to run it with kdesu
[02:13] <Kiongku_> ehrm..
[02:13] <Jucato> ...
[02:13] <Kiongku_> bringing now interface.. it means cutting the internet conenction right?
[02:13] <Kiongku_> *down
[02:13] <fdoving> kiongku_, correct.
[02:13] <Jucato> cut cut cut...
[02:14] <Kiongku_> fdoving: crap.. not work
[02:14] <fdoving> kiongku_, what didn't work? executing the script? is it executable?
[02:15] <Kiongku_> fdoving: when i do ls it appears as green
[02:15] <fdoving> that's good.
[02:15] <Kiongku_> i suppose its executable?
[02:15] <fdoving> yes.
[02:16] <Kiongku_> doh nvm.. that guy wants me to sudo ipkungfu each time i come in ~_~
[02:16] <scorpion007> Interesting...I ran kbuildsycoca and KWord now loads normally...
[02:16] <asimon> scorpion007: Is this from a new installation or did you updated from an older version?
[02:16] <fdoving> kiongku, ok then you can put it in ~/.kde/Autostart/
[02:17] <Kiongku_> fdoving: ehe if in Autostart.. it does not run as root right?
[02:17] <fdoving> kiongku, i'd suggest adding a wrapper-script to invoke it with 'kdesu ipkungfu'
[02:17] <scorpion007> asimon: well, this was a fresh install, but I've been using it since it was out
[02:17] <Kiongku_> its a script console
[02:18] <fdoving> that would however require you to type your password.
[02:18] <Kiongku_> @_@ ah forget it.. my head.. hurts i had enough for today.. i recompiled my kernel today for the 3rd time
[02:18] <Kiongku_> i forgot iptable_mangle module.. missing item for ipkungfu
[02:19] <syntaxx> i remove alsa-base and i still have sound after reboot how can i fix that? im trying to fix my tvtime
[02:19] <SubNet> Jucato: mom - telephone
[02:20] <asimon> scorpion007: I just see that this bug is already filed into the bug tracking system (Bug #39724)
[02:21] <Jucato> oh
[02:21] <scorpion007> asimon: whats the ling to the bug system?
[02:21] <asimon> scorpion007: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/39724
[02:21] <Jucato> SubNet: so how did it go?
[02:22] <Jucato> 2 months till Edgy...
[02:22] <scorpion007> Well, I googled but couldn't find it...
[02:23] <Kiongku_> Jucato: hey Jucato go to this site and tell me what u get from the scan of ur ports https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
[02:24] <Kiongku_> scorpion007: which program?
[02:24] <Jucato> I don't have a software firewall, btw
[02:24] <Kiongku_> Jucato: i know let me know :P
[02:24] <Jucato> which part should I read?
[02:24] <Kiongku_> Jucato: i just want to know how ur system reacts
[02:25] <Kiongku_> Jucato: Proceed.. and scan for common portsd
[02:25] <Jucato> okie
[02:25] <SubNet> Jucato: No alternatives for kubuntu-aplsh.so
[02:26] <Jucato> SubNet: kubuntu-splash.so ?
[02:26] <SubNet> kubuntu-splash.so ...
[02:26] <Kiongku_> usplash
[02:26] <SubNet> ahh - now i understand :)
[02:26] <SubNet> mom
[02:26] <syntaxx> how can i go back to grub when i installed lilo?
[02:27] <scorpion007> Kiongku_: just KWord wouldn't load but i've fixed it...
[02:27] <Jucato> SubNet: try to check (in Adept) if the package called "kubuntu-artwork-usplash" is installed and that "usplash" is also installed
[02:27] <Jucato> Kiongku: it's done. which part/result are you interested in?
[02:27] <SubNet> The command lets me select between usplash-default and kubuntu-splash.
[02:27] <Jucato> all the ports are closed...
[02:27] <SubNet> kubuntu-splash is default
[02:27] <Jucato> SubNet: yes
[02:28] <Jucato> hmm...
[02:28] <SubNet> Have a look at adept ...
[02:28] <SubNet> mom
[02:28] <Jucato> mom???
[02:28] <SubNet> wait am MOMent
[02:28] <Jucato> aaah
[02:28] <Jucato>  @_@
[02:28] <SubNet> ;)
[02:28] <fdoving> syntaxx: you can try: 'sudo apt-get remove lilo;sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub' if that doesn't do it, you can also try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow grub'
[02:29] <syntaxx> ok thanks
[02:29] <Jucato> Kiongku: I think I failed the tests. coz I got big FAILED stamps
[02:29] <Kiongku_> :p
[02:29] <fdoving> syntaxx: if that also fails, you can use 'grub-install /dev/hda' given /dev/hda is the disk where you want grub to be installed.
[02:29] <waspius> i am trying to make shift+alt to change language in the keyboard...but it is not allowing me..anyone know what i can do?
[02:29] <Kiongku_> Jucato: i got a big green pass ^^
[02:30] <SubNet> Jucato: kubuntu-artwork-usplash and usplash are installed properly
[02:30] <Jucato> hm....
[02:30] <Jucato> now I'm stumped...
[02:30] <fdoving> _thumper_: any news on your problem?
[02:30] <Jucato> SubNet: did you modify your menu.lst before this started happening?
[02:30] <Jucato> Kiongku_: coz you've got a firewall...
[02:30] <Kiongku_> Jucato: :D
[02:30] <Jucato> bleh
[02:30] <SubNet> maybe ... i often modify it
[02:30] <Kiongku_> SubNet: What u want to do?
[02:31] <Jucato> his USplash doesn't show up
[02:31] <SubNet> Want my usplash back, Kiongku_ :)
[02:31] <Kiongku_> SubNet: did u compile a kernel recently?
[02:31] <SubNet> Kiongku_: no
[02:32] <Jucato> I think the kernel line in menu.lst should end in "ro quiet splash". something like "kernel /boot..... root=.... ro quiet splash"
[02:32] <Jucato> for the normal mode. (the recovery mode ends in "ro single" only...)
[02:32] <SubNet> \/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/sda6 ro quiet splash vga=normal
[02:32] <Jucato> SubNet: try removing the vga=normal part
[02:33] <SubNet> mybe vga=normal makes this not work?
[02:33] <SubNet> :)
[02:33] <SubNet> OK
[02:33] <SubNet> Back in 2 Minutes ...
[02:33] <Kiongku> SubNet: hmm check /boot/config-`uname -r` and see if VGA16, VESAFB and Framebuffer console are enabled (Y)
[02:33] <Jucato> cool
[02:33] <_thumper_> fdoving, no, I'm just writing up a fuller description for ubuntuforums
[02:33] <Jucato> Kiongku: nah, I think the vga=normal does it
[02:33] <Jucato> I mean, removing it
[02:33] <fdoving> _thumper_: ok, give me the link to the post when you're done. And i'll take a look at it. :)
[02:33] <SubNet> Kiongku: this worked before and i did not change things manually ...
[02:33] <Kiongku> SubNet: ya.. strange vga=normal.. normally its a number
[02:34] <SubNet> I try without vga=normal ... be back soon
[02:34] <Jucato> or totally absent
[02:34] <_thumper_> fdoving, ta
[02:34] <Jucato> the default menu.lst doesn't have it
[02:34] <Jucato> grr... now I can't get those big FAILED stamps off my mind...
[02:34] <syntaxx> what sound card driver does kubuntu install by default? i remove alsa-base alsa-utils and linux-sound-base but there's still sound
[02:35] <Kiongku> Jucato: heh?
[02:35] <Jucato> the thought of failing will nag me until I setup a firewall... grrrr!
[02:35] <Jucato> syntaxx: arts?
[02:36] <fdoving> _thumper_: you don't have a keyword blocking feature in your router do you?
[02:36] <Kiongku> Jucato: hehe then see u in 4 hrs. i have to go out
[02:36] <Jucato> lol
[02:36] <Jucato> I'll try to fight hard the urge to install a firewall... not yet at least
[02:36] <fdoving> _thumper_: you can also try to delete the proxy line in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[02:36] <Kiongku> Jucato: its easy the ipkungfu.. i'll help u with it later.. when i back
[02:37] <syntaxx> Jucato: hmm if i remove arts it will remove the kubuntu-desktop also
[02:37] <Jucato> IF i'm still here
[02:37] <Sanne> syntaxx: the sound card driver is a kernel module that gets loaded automatically after detecting your hardware. Type "lsmod | grep snd" to see which one is loaded.
[02:37] <Jucato> oooh
[02:37] <Jucato> didn't know that...
[02:37] <fdoving> kdelibs depend on arts. you can't uninstall it.
[02:38] <syntaxx> Sanne: im trying to fix my tvtime no voice only buzzzz sound anyone know how?
[02:38] <fdoving> you can however remove the executable bit on the artsd binary.
[02:38] <fdoving> if you really want to disable it.
[02:38] <Sanne> syntaxx: not really, but checking if the correct driver is loaded would be worth a try.
[02:38] <syntaxx> my tvtime sound works fine before i shift to ubuntu
[02:38] <syntaxx> im using debian before and it works good
[02:38] <syntaxx> now no voice only buzzz sound
[02:39] <ubuntu__> alguem do brazil ae?
[02:39] <asimon> Arts can also be deactivated by System Settings->Sound System, uncheck 'Enable the sound system'. Then it wont be started by KDE.
[02:39] <Sanne> syntaxx: can you find your card with "lspci -vv"?
[02:39] <Jucato> SubNet: did it work?
[02:39] <SubNet> Re
[02:39] <ubuntu__> /linuxajuda
[02:39] <SubNet> jup
[02:39] <SubNet> thx :)
[02:39] <Jucato> kool!
[02:40] <Jucato> glad to hear that. :-D
[02:40] <SubNet> Jucato: where are you from?
[02:40] <syntaxx> Sanne: multimedia audio control intel corporation 82801EB/ER AC'97 Audio Controller
[02:40] <Jucato> Philippines
[02:40] <SubNet> Ahh - OK ... germany ...
[02:40] <ubuntu__> porra
[02:40] <ubuntu__> alguem do brazil ae
[02:40] <ubuntu__> nao?
[02:41] <Jucato> oooh
[02:41] <syntaxx> Sanne: the other one is Subsystem: Pinnacle Systems Inc. PCTV pro <-- my capture card
[02:41] <syntaxx> Jucato: kabayan :D
[02:41] <SubNet> worldwide interoperability :D
[02:41] <Jucato> kool
[02:41] <SubNet> really cool :)
[02:41] <Sanne> syntaxx: let's try to find out which driver module your card needs. Let's go here and search for your card: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/
[02:41] <Jucato> (kool is becoming a favorite word...)
[02:41] <SubNet> Thx guys ... cu
[02:41] <SubNet> seems so
[02:41] <h4_net-deeds> ?
[02:41] <Jucato> ehehehe
[02:41] <waspius>  i am trying to have a shortcut to change keyboard languages back and forth..the default is alt+cntrl+k but it only changes once..plus i would like to make it shift+alt but i cannot
[02:41] <h4_net-deeds> niguem
[02:41] <h4_net-deeds> ahhhh caralho
[02:41] <Sanne> syntaxx: oh, which card is it? Or do you need both?
[02:41] <h4_net-deeds> como faz pra entrar na brasnet
[02:42] <h4_net-deeds> ????
[02:42] <Jucato> !brazil
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brazil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <Jucato> hmm...
[02:42] <syntaxx> Sanne: my pctv capture card connects to my sound card so i think both
[02:43] <Sanne> syntaxx: what does the pctv capture card do?
[02:43] <fdoving> !br
[02:43] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[02:43] <syntaxx> Sanne: my soundcard module is VIA southbridge AC97 audio
[02:43] <asimon> waspius: Shift+Alt is probably not working because they are both modifier keys. You probably need at least one non-modifier key, just a wild guess.
[02:43] <syntaxx> Sanne: watching tv.. recording/capturing from a dvd player/vhs player
[02:44] <Jucato> you could probably try something like Shift+Alt+Space?
[02:44] <Sanne> syntaxx: ah, thanks. So let's focus first on the AC97 sound. Did you find the name of the kernel module?
[02:44] <waspius> asimon: yes but even if i leave it as it is..it will only change once..it does not change back..
[02:44] <Jucato> what's the IRC command to join multiple channels?
[02:45] <syntaxx> Sanne: i lsmod | grep snd and here's what i have snd_intel8x0 snd_ac97_codec
[02:45] <waspius> i can change from english to greek but not back..i have to click on the flag at the bottom
[02:45] <SubNet> Does anybody know what about the port of mozilla to a kpart? Is this work still in progress?
[02:45] <syntaxx> Sanne: and in debian when i run alsaconf it gives me snd_intel8x0
[02:46] <Jucato> SubNet: AFAIK, it's dead
[02:46] <Sanne> syntaxx: hmm, seems that snd_intel8x0 is correct, then
[02:46] <fdoving> Jucato: /join #channel1,#channel2,#channel3
[02:46] <Jucato> fdoving: no spaces in between?
[02:46] <SubNet> Jucato: sad - that would have been a good thing imho
[02:46] <Sanne> syntaxx: does it work in Debian?
[02:46] <fdoving> Jucato: commas.
[02:46] <syntaxx> Sanne: yes it works good
[02:47] <Jucato> fdoving: kool! I've been doing #channel, #channel....
[02:47] <fdoving> :)
[02:47] <syntaxx> Sanne: but now when i shift to ubuntu it has no voice only buzzzz sound
[02:47] <asimon> waspius: Which KDE version do you run? 3.5.4 from kubuntu.org?
[02:47] <Jucato> fdoving: thanks! I hate having to automatically join channels at startup, but I also don't want to join them one by one... :-D
[02:48] <Sanne> syntaxx: bummer, then I'm afraid I'm at the end of my knowledge. I believe there's a wiki page for sound troubleshooting, I'll get it for you, sec.
[02:48] <Jucato> SubNet: probably. but it gives KHTML the chance to grow on its own. And now that there is a project to unify it with WebKit, we might see some improvements soon
[02:48] <syntaxx> Sanne: ok
[02:48] <waspius> asimon: 3.5.2
[02:49] <Jucato> KHTML isn't all that bad. If it was, Apple wouldn't have chosen to use it as a base for Safari...
[02:49] <SubNet> What is WbKit?
[02:49] <SubNet> KHTML is quite good, but imho gecko still is better
[02:50] <Jucato> "WebKit is an open source web browser engine. WebKit is also the name of the Mac OS X system framework version of the engine that's used by Safari, Dashboard, Mail, and many other OS X applications." (http://webkit.opendarwin.org/)
[02:50] <Sanne> syntaxx: better still, I'll try to send you the bot's hints on sound...
[02:50] <SubNet> KHTML is continously improving - tht is nice to see, but it is slower and not that "compatible" as gecko
[02:50] <asimon> waspius: I run KDE 3.5.4 on Edgy and can switch back and forth with ALT+CTRL+k between different key maps. If this is important for you I would recommend to upgrade to KDE 3.5.4 (see http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php)
[02:50] <Sanne> !sound > syntaxx
[02:50] <Jucato> considering how much Gecko has been developed before it was in Firefox, I'm not surprised.
[02:50] <waspius> asimon: thanx
[02:51] <SubNet> Ahh - OK ...
[02:51] <syntaxx> Sanne: ok ill try this one
[02:51] <asimon> waspius: But only the kde version, don't upgrade to Edgy, keymap switching works but it's broken in many other ways. ;-)
[02:51] <SubNet> I#m shure KHTML will come closer to gecko's performance soon
[02:51] <Sanne> syntaxx: can you see the message from ubotu?
[02:51] <syntaxx> yes
[02:51] <Jucato> Remember that Gecko and Mozilla were under Netscape once. KHTML didn't have the luxury of having a company behind it...
[02:52] <Sanne> syntaxx: ah, then I got it correctly :). Good lick.
[02:52] <Sanne> luck
[02:52] <SubNet> That's right, Jucato.
[02:52] <waspius> asimon: which means that i should or should not apgrade?
[02:52] <waspius> upgrade
[02:52] <SubNet> KDE-user, Jucato?
[02:52] <Jucato> SubNet: huh?
[02:52] <SubNet> But KDE is as good as that company driven thing i guess ;)
[02:53] <asimon> waspius: kubuntu.org has KDE packages for Dapper. So you can have the newest shiniest KDE version with dapper.
[02:53] <SubNet> Jucato: sure - thougt I was in #ubuntu ...
[02:53] <Jucato> well, it's not really a company.
[02:53] <Jucato> ehehe
[02:54] <syntaxx> Sanne: now im getting shhhhhhhh
[02:54] <Sanne> syntaxx: hmmm, at least some change... heh
[02:55] <flaccid> i'm getting sorry try again for sudo but i'm in the admin group?
[02:55] <SubNet> Sure Mozilla is no longer company-driven but it profited a lot from that before and from the Win-User-Community - it is simply bigger
[02:55] <JRH3K5> !power management
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power management - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <jollyroger> can someone help me get my atherosWiFi-card working?
[02:56] <Sanne> syntaxx: maybe it is an issue with alsa getting confused about your tv card? Just a wild guess, but that something about this problem on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:56] <Jucato> yeah, that's why projects like Mozilla (Firefox and Thunderbird) and OpenOffice.org will always be at an advantage over the other alternatives (Evolution, Kontact, KOffice) because of the companies behind them
[02:56] <fdoving> flaccid: did you type your password correct? no caps?
[02:57] <flaccid> correct
[02:57] <flaccid> su works, but not sudo
[02:57] <flaccid> and groups return admin
[02:57] <fdoving> how does /etc/sudoers look then?
[02:57] <syntaxx> Sanne: even i put in hardware sound is no audio input/output i still have the buzzzz
[02:57] <fdoving> if you can su you can take a look at it with 'visu'
[02:58] <Sanne> syntaxx: what do you get with: cat /proc/asound/cards
[02:58] <flaccid> Defaults        !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqd root    ALL=(ALL) ALL %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[02:58] <flaccid> line breaks removed
[02:59] <fdoving> jollyroger: i can point you to this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi
[02:59] <syntaxx> Sanne: 0 [ICH5    ] : ICH4 - Intel ICH5 Intel ICH5 with AD1888 at 0xfebff800, irq 201
[02:59] <fdoving> flaccid: ok, looking good. you did type your users password, right? not roots.
[02:59] <jollyroger> gracias!
[02:59] <Sanne> syntaxx: looks correct, yes?
[02:59] <flaccid> ah right
[02:59] <syntaxx> Sanne: yea
[03:00] <flaccid> i'm a dipshit
[03:01] <flaccid> thanks fdoving
[03:01] <syntaxx> Sanne: the only problem is the tvtime i can play movie in totem without problems in sound
[03:01] <Sanne> syntaxx: what I would do if I were in your situation (as I'm at the end of my software troubleshooting abilities), I would pull out the tv card temporarily and see if the sound works without it, to see if it's the tv card giving problems.
[03:01] <fdoving> no problem flaccid :)
[03:01] <Sanne> syntaxx: huh? oh!
[03:02] <Sanne> syntaxx: ok, misunderstanding, might be I didn't catch your initial posting
[03:02] <syntaxx> Sanne: yeah just the tv having problem
[03:02] <Sanne> syntaxx: sorry for pulling you through all this ...
[03:02] <syntaxx> Sanne: in debian it works fine even i play movie and watching tv at the same time
[03:02] <syntaxx> Sanne: thats ok
[03:02] <texjoachim> hi!
[03:03] <larson9999> is there something in kubuntu that cleans out temp on a regular basis?  i put stuff in there that i don't care about but in other distros stuff stays in there until i delete it.  but it seems like kubuntu deletes it
[03:03] <syntaxx> Sanne: i think its conflicting some driver modules
[03:03] <texjoachim> can anyone help me make my parallel zip drive known to ubuntu dapper?
[03:03] <Sanne> syntaxx: might be also because I don't have an idea what tvtime is ;)
[03:03] <syntaxx> Sanne: tvtime.sourceforge.net :D
[03:04] <Sanne> syntaxx: looking. So you have normal sound when listening to music?
[03:04] <syntaxx> Sanne: yes and playing movie in totem
[03:05] <Sanne> syntaxx: ah! So it all comes down to tvtime then. It should direct it's audio to your soundcard, shouldn't it?
[03:06] <syntaxx> Sanne: yes and not just the tvtime.. also the kdetv
[03:08] <fdoving> larson9999: yes,  /etc/init.d/bootclean clears /tmp at every boot.
[03:08] <Sanne> syntaxx: kdetv... another program that gives you bzzzzz?
[03:08] <syntaxx> Sanne: yes
[03:08] <larson9999> fdoving: can i turn that off?
[03:09] <waspius> anyone play counter strike?
[03:09] <Sanne> syntaxx: I assume you have read the help available at the tvtime site?
[03:09] <waspius> or warcraft?
[03:09] <Swatgoss> looool
[03:10] <syntaxx> Sanne: yes but it doesnt says when you have problems in sound bzzz
[03:10] <waspius> anyone know how i can make warcraft and counter strike work??
[03:10] <Swatgoss> waspius wine
[03:10] <Hawkwind> waspius: Join #WineHQ and ask the experts who run wine
[03:11] <waspius> ok thanx
[03:12] <Sanne> syntaxx: heh, yes, I assumed so :). Well, as much as I would like to help further, I'm running out of ideas, since I don't have any experience with video capture. Maybe ask the developers directly?
[03:12] <larson9999> D4rkly_: did you try those wow links i gave you yesterday?
[03:13] <nagyv> is it possible to install ubuntu on a running Linux? I have a 3 partitions: hda2, hda3, hda4. I have 1 ubuntu on hda2 and /home on hda4, and would like to get a frech ubuntu install on hda3 while still working on the hda2 ubuntu. Is it possible?
[03:13] <larson9999> waspius: darrkly(sp) said he got wow to work.  he gave me the links that he said worked for him.
[03:13] <syntaxx> Sanne: well maybe ill post in the bug reports or something they got no forum and in #tvtime no response
[03:13] <waspius> larson9999: can i get them 2:)
[03:14] <Sanne> syntaxx: might be a sensible road to follow, yes
[03:14] <larson9999> speaking of tvtime, this new pc has a tuner card.  think i'll try it out
[03:14] <larson9999> waspius: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50414
[03:15] <waspius> larson9999: thanx
[03:15] <fdoving> larson9999: you can delete /etc/rcS.d/S36mountall-bootclean.sh (that is a link to /etc/init.d/mountall-bootclean.sh).
[03:15] <larson9999> waspius: he said that although this one was for cedaga it worked for him with wine: http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3149&sid=ad258914a9a2c11baf1ab86a0b7abfbe
[03:15] <syntaxx> Sanne: but the problem is i think in ubuntu coz in debian it works just fine
[03:16] <waspius> larson9999: thanx i will check
[03:17] <larson9999> fdoving: between now and then i made a backup of bootclean and then made bootclean a dummy program that doesn't do anything.
[03:17] <Sanne> syntaxx: yes, it seems so. Still, maybe the tvtime devs can best help with that. Of course, you could also file a bug about this in launchpad for Ubuntu.
[03:18] <larson9999> waspius: let me know if it works for you too as i'm putting together a doc for my windows friends on linux.  wow would be nice for hte game section
[03:18] <waspius> larson9999: ok np
[03:19] <mike|shizzle> hi
[03:20] <mike|shizzle> anyone here?
[03:20] <mike|shizzle> need help installing my kubuntu
[03:21] <dhq> i have a portable usb drive i used it well onkubuntu for quite sometime i could delete transfer etc now i cant delete transfer nothing
[03:21] <fdoving> larson9999: ok,that will also do it. :)
[03:21] <kubunturocks> i install and then uninstalled clamav and now I am getting errors when I do an apt-get upgrade.  Can anyone help me?
[03:21] <larson9999> fdoving: i didn't know if something was depending on it to run :)
[03:22] <mike|shizzle> i tried to install kubuntu but when the screen tells me "initializing harddisks"
[03:22] <fdoving> larson9999: mountall-bootclean.sh depends on /etc/init.d/bootclean to run.
[03:22] <waspius> larson9999: do u know if windows cracks will work here?ie no cd crack etc?
[03:22] <mike|shizzle> it freezes
[03:23] <dhq> now it tell me my directory is read only what do i do
[03:23] <kubunturocks> mikeshizz - do you know if your hardware is supported ?  Do you have version <IP_ADDRESS>?
[03:23] <fdoving> waspius: that is waaay off topic in here. cracks and similar that is.
[03:23] <waspius> fdoving: where should i ask?
[03:24] <fdoving> waspius: somewhere else i don't know, i don't do windows nor cracks.
[03:24] <kubunturocks> waspius - maybe #whywindowssux
[03:24] <waspius> ok
[03:24] <larson9999> waspius: i do not.
[03:24] <waspius> thanx
[03:24] <kubunturocks> lol
[03:24] <waspius> and sorry
[03:24] <flaccid> :p
[03:25] <_thumper_> fdoving: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1393584#post1393584
[03:25] <kubunturocks> i install and then uninstalled clamav and now I am getting errors when I do an apt-get upgrade.  Can anyone help me?
[03:26] <fdoving> kubunturocks: please paste the error message you get to http://pastebin.ca/ and post the link here.
[03:26] <fdoving> _thumper_: looking.
[03:26] <_thumper_> fdoving, thanks
[03:26] <larson9999> fdoving: i'll leave it this way and see if it works ok.
[03:26] <kubunturocks> fdoving - http://pastebin.ca/137539
[03:27] <fdoving> _thumper_: ah.. it works after the pings?
[03:27] <kubunturocks> fdoving I tried to dpkg purge but still no dice
[03:27] <mike|shizzle> it's an old computer and its the newest version
[03:27] <_thumper_> fdoving, for a short while
[03:27] <fdoving> _thumper_: sounds to me like a broken firewall/router.
[03:28] <mike|shizzle> just want this computer for internet/samba server
[03:28] <_thumper_> fdoving, frustrating though that everything else works, firefox, konversation, skype, WinXP
[03:29] <_thumper_> fdoving, more likely to be a quirk somewhere
[03:29] <fdoving> _thumper_: indeed. very frustrating. did you try another mirror? like se.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[03:29] <_thumper_> fdoving, yes, initially they were all uk.
[03:29] <kubunturocks> anyone know how to resolve this http://pastebin.ca/137539 error?
[03:29] <_thumper_> fdoving, firefox also used to hurl until I turned off ipv6 in about:config
[03:29] <fdoving> kubunturocks: try 'sudo mkdir -p /var/run/clamav;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[03:30] <fdoving> _thumper_: ok..
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> kubunturocks, i don't
[03:31] <kubunturocks> fdoving - still the same err =(
[03:32] <kubunturocks> fdoving - doesnt apt have MAGIC COW powers. lol =)
[03:32] <Admiral_Chicago> mine does
[03:32] <asimon> kubunturocks: You don't need/want clamav anymore? Just remove clamav-base and clamav-freshclam too.
[03:33] <Admiral_Chicago> asimon, did you read the paste error
[03:33] <pierreth> abattoir: hello
[03:33] <fdoving> kubunturocks: sure it does. did you delete anything manually before using apt-get?
[03:33] <Admiral_Chicago> actully, i didnt
[03:33] <asimon> Admiral_Chicago: Yes, it tries to setup packages which are probably not needed anymore.
[03:33] <Admiral_Chicago> asimon, i take the point back...
[03:34] <pierreth> pierreth:testing
[03:34] <pierreth> is it possible to see the notification area if the kicker is hidden?
[03:35] <kubunturocks> asimon - thanks man.  I didnt see those other packages but I got em outta there in aptitude. =)
[03:35] <fdoving> kubunturocks: ok, this will do it: open konsole, get a root shell with 'sudo -s', then run 'echo "exit 0" > /var/lib/dpkg/info/clamav-base.postinst;dpkg --configure -a'
[03:35] <kubunturocks> fdoving - Its all good now
[03:36] <fdoving> ok, great :)
[03:36] <kubunturocks> thanks to u both. =)  Have a great friday
[03:37] <kubunturocks> Anyone really good with Amarok?
[03:37] <waspius> what does multi-download mean?in valknut
[03:37] <asimon> kubunturocks: what's the problem with amarok?
[03:38] <pierreth> kubunturocks: i am not good with it
[03:38] <kubunturocks> asimon - whenever I open any media file it just says - playlist ended and plays NOTHING
[03:38] <pierreth> kubunturocks: it does not play my iTunes music :-(
[03:38] <kubunturocks> VLC and all others works
[03:39] <kubunturocks> pirreth - it dont work at all for me =(
[03:39] <asimon> kubunturocks: Probably you don't have mp3 support installed. Install libxine-extracodecs
[03:39] <asimon> !restricted
[03:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:39] <pierreth> kubunturocks: well, i was not able to play a sound from it wet
[03:39] <kubunturocks> asimon - I have that installed and it works in VLC
[03:39] <kubunturocks> Video Lan Client
[03:40] <pierreth> ubotu: but i love aac
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about but i love aac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <asimon> kubunturocks: what format are those media files in?
[03:40] <abattoir> hello pierreth :)
[03:40] <pierreth> abattoir: hello!
[03:40] <kubunturocks> aimon - mp3 and ogg
[03:40] <pierreth> abattoir: i am back in kubuntu!
[03:41] <kubunturocks> as I said all other media players work just fine - its just Amarok
[03:41] <asimon> kubunturocks: They should be played with out problems. Did you check that your amarok is configured to use the Xine Engine?
[03:41] <Swatgoss> "con d'or" in french translated in english its "goldendumb" ...
[03:42] <kubunturocks> asimon - yes its set to Xine with output plugin to autodetect
[03:42] <kubunturocks> aimon - it always just says playlist finished and goes to the end of the file.  Nada =(
[03:43] <Swatgoss> u have all codecs ?
[03:43] <Swatgoss> and does it play some mp3 at least ?
[03:43] <kubunturocks> swatgos - nope. but all other players can without any issue
[03:44] <Swatgoss> on my sys amarok don't play all mp3, but before i install codecs it was doing the same thing
[03:44] <Swatgoss> and XMMS work on 100% files
[03:44] <asimon> kubunturocks: And you really have libxine-extracodecs installed (other players may not use the libxine)? Hmm ... I am sorry, in that case I don't know what could be wrong.
[03:46] <Swatgoss> some1 experience FTP transfer stops during transfer ? (with or without ipv6)
[03:47] <Swatgoss> especially on user to user transferts (Kopete and aMSN ...)
[03:48] <redblades> Hi, I just installed kubuntu-desktop today, and for somereason konsole isn't working, and gave this error.
[03:48] <redblades> http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e95/muthamunky/love.jpg
[03:48] <redblades> NO!!!!
[03:48] <redblades> SORRY
[03:48] <Swatgoss> yippi for Klipper :p
[03:48] <Jucato> ...
[03:49] <Jucato> lol
[03:49] <redblades> Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype). It is likely that this is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices.
[03:49] <redblades> Ah that's it.
[03:49] <Admiral_Chicago> thats awful
[03:49] <kubunturocks> asimon - there is no package by that name - libxine-extracodecs
[03:49] <Jucato> don't yopu just love it when Klipper uses the wrong content? :-D
[03:49] <redblades> Yeah, it's lovely.
[03:49] <redblades> Admiral_Chicago: sorry about that..
[03:50] <asimon> kubunturocks: In that case you probably haven't the multiverse repository enabled, the package is in that repo.
[03:50] <Admiral_Chicago> i lol'ed (literally) so its all good
[03:50] <Swatgoss> would prefer a www.minou.com page ... (if i rememberthe URL right)
[03:51] <redblades> So, any ideas why konsole isn't working???
[03:51] <asimon> kubunturocks: Do you know how to add this repo to your sources.list?
[03:52] <kubunturocks> asimon - yes i just don't know which one it is - I do see this one --->
[03:52] <kubunturocks> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[03:52] <kubunturocks> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[03:53] <asimon> redblades: I remember a bug report from a XFCE user who had the same problem with starting konsole. But no fix for it so far.
[03:53] <Jucato> kubunturocks: not those...
[03:53] <kubunturocks> Which ones then?
[03:53] <Jucato> kubunturocks: look for the line with "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe" and add the word "multiverse" at the end
[03:54] <Jucato> so that it will be "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse"
[03:54] <asimon> kubunturocks: and make sure the line jucato pointed out doesn't start with an '#' ;-)
[03:54] <pierreth> abattoir: ?
[03:54] <Jucato> ^_^
[03:54] <redblades> asimon: that.... "5U><0R5"
[03:55] <asimon> redblades: Hu?
[03:55] <Jucato> I think he means "that sucks"
[03:55] <pierreth> thank you for the links about media
[03:55] <asimon> oh, I understand. hehe
[03:56] <kubunturocks> thanks jucato & asimon !!!
[03:56] <Jucato> ^_^
[03:56] <asimon> kubunturocks: After you added it, apt-get update, then you can install this libxine-extracodecs. Then restart amarok and it should work.
[03:56] <Swatgoss> Suxors ?
[03:57] <Jucato> suxx0rz = l33t (leet, elite) speak for "sucks"
[03:57] <kubunturocks> asmov - got it.  =)  Amarok now WORKS!  bRAVO guys!
[03:57] <Swatgoss> 5UC|<5
[03:57] <Jucato> lol
[03:57] <Swatgoss> kubunturocks what do u installed ?
[03:57] <Swatgoss> *did*
[03:57] <Jucato> libxine-extracodecs
[03:58] <Swatgoss> just this one ?
[03:58] <kubunturocks> yes
[03:58] <kubunturocks> apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[03:58] <Jucato> yeah. I'm glad that it covers almost all multimedia codecs
[03:58] <Swatgoss> -_- don't work on all my mp3 ...
[03:58] <dhq> what is the default root password for kubuntu
[03:58] <kubunturocks> dhq you need to use sudo
[03:58] <Jucato> dhq: nothing. root is disabled. your password is the administrator's password
[03:58] <Jucato> !sudo
[03:58] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:59] <asimon> kubunturocks: There is work underway to make this easier for people. Instead of just going to the end of the playlist, amarok will open a dialog, explaining what's wong/missing and give you the option to install the missing package. The current behaviour is really stupid.
[03:59] <redblades> Jucato: It wasn't even worth the time it took me to type that... hehe
[03:59] <dhq> Jucato: sudo user
[03:59] <Jucato> lol
[03:59] <dhq> :p
[03:59] <kubunturocks> asimon - that would be awsome.  the larger issue is the stupid patent issues that keep these things from being included within free and open source software
[03:59] <Jucato> asimon: it should. usability-wise, it should
[04:00] <asimon> kubunturocks: Yes, that's of course the root of the whole issue.
[04:01] <Jucato> I really look forward to the day when OGG really catches up with MP3 in terms of popularity. Quality-wise, it's almost there
[04:01] <kubunturocks> asimon - i am using only open formats in everthing I do.   I can barely tell the difference between MP3, OGG, and WMA, specially if their qualities are almost the same
[04:02] <Jucato> I prefer to use OGG, resorting only to MP3 when necessary...
[04:03] <Swatgoss> Jucato try AAC+v2
[04:03] <Admiral_Chicago> I would use OGG but almost all my music is mp3
[04:03] <kubunturocks> asimon - yeah in general media. Ms/Real/Apple still dominates
[04:03] <Admiral_Chicago> and some AAC
[04:03] <Swatgoss> 64Kpbs = 128Kbps mp3
[04:03] <exceswater> hi people
[04:03] <Jucato> I would probably convert my MP3 files into OGG one of these days, regardless of quality loss
[04:03] <Admiral_Chicago> exceswater, hey
[04:03] <asimon> kubunturocks: Yes, where the money is.
[04:03] <exceswater> who can help me to install something
[04:03] <Admiral_Chicago> exceswater, i'll try
[04:03] <exceswater> it seems like i have a problem ...
[04:03] <exceswater> 10x
[04:03] <exceswater> sometimes
[04:03] <Jucato> btw, Real would probably be making it easier to play Windows Media in the near future, according to the news from LinuxWorld...
[04:04] <kubunturocks> asimov - they all suk - I am opting out =)
[04:04] <exceswater> if i take some sources...
[04:04] <exceswater> i unzip them
[04:04] <exceswater> and when i try : make
[04:04] <exceswater> make install
[04:04] <exceswater> nothing happens
[04:04] <exceswater> why ?
[04:04] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo?
[04:04] <exceswater> i am noob
[04:04] <Hawkwind> exceswater: What are you trying to compile ?
[04:04] <Admiral_Chicago> try make / sudo make install
[04:04] <exceswater> a game
[04:04] <Jucato> err.. Hawkwind beat me to the question
[04:04] <Hawkwind> exceswater: It's possible what you need to compile is already in a deb file
[04:04] <kubunturocks> jucato - real is a pile of stinking dung
[04:04] <Hawkwind> exceswater: Be specific...what game ?
[04:05] <Jucato> kubunturocks: hehehe! I'm actually surprised it has made it this far. :-D