[02:15] <[_Trimble_] > anyone awake?
[02:16] <laga> maybe
[02:16] <[_Trimble_] > i'm looking to get my hauppage 150 ir blaster to work.  was wondering if anyone has any pointers
[02:20] <[_Trimble_] > guess not
[02:21] <laga> not me, never used them
[02:21] <laga> but i guess the web has it all :)
[02:21] <[_Trimble_] > heheh eok
[02:21] <laga> file a bug if you found how it's done (and how its integrated well into ubuntu)
[02:21] <laga> alright, it's way past bed time for me.
[02:22] <[_Trimble_] > file a bug if it works?
[02:23] <laga> yes
[02:23] <laga> because it's lirc and people are not used if it works
[02:23] <[_Trimble_] > maybe i should do that for ndiswrapper.
[02:23] <laga> we dont wanna scare anyone in our final release
[02:23] <[_Trimble_] > i had to do ndiswrapper this morning and wrote my steps down ;)
[02:24] <laga> heh
[02:24] <laga> i usd ndiswrapper for a bit till i spent $15 on a nice intel minipci abg card
[02:26] <laga> oh, right. bedtime.
[02:56] <vanjuggler> hello all
[02:56] <Tari_> hello
[02:56] <[_Trimble_] > hiya
[02:57] <vanjuggler> I just installed mythbuntu (nuking my knoppmyth install).  the install was beatiful
[02:57] <vanjuggler> beautiful, even
[02:57] <vanjuggler> but moving around the menus is incredibly slow.... any ideas?
[02:57] <[_Trimble_] > yes!
[02:58] <[_Trimble_] > I just nuked my knoppmyth install in favor of mythbuntu also
[02:58] <vanjuggler> cool
[02:58] <[_Trimble_] > i used the alpha ISO - the 7.10 gutsy one.  beautiful install compared to knoppix
[02:58] <vanjuggler> yeah, it's really nice - i was impressed
[02:58] <[_Trimble_] > so, I noticed my menus being really freaking annoyingly slow
[02:58] <Tari_> I also had similar speed problems (with knoppmyth, anyway)
[02:59] <Tari_> getting 3D drivers for my video card (an nVidia 6200) helped a bunch
[02:59] <Tari_> but that probably won't help you, eh?
[02:59] <[_Trimble_] > I used the tool to install the nvidia driver (i have a pci based nvidia card) and the problem went away.  I didn't select the "latest driver" one, but it seems to have done both and my menus are fast and fade beautifully now :)
[03:00] <vanjuggler> cool, i'll give that a go
[03:00] <[_Trimble_] > have you an nvidia card?
[03:00] <[_Trimble_] > if so, definately try the nvidia drivers
[03:01] <neofax> OK, have mythbuntu setup using the round about way.  Have a problem when trying to start watch TV
[03:01] <vanjuggler> [_Trimble_] : yeah an older nvidia card...
[03:01] <neofax> Everytime I press the Watch TV button the screen flashes and goes back to the main menu
[03:02] <Tari_> maybe your remote is mapped incorrectly?
[03:06] <chuk1> restart the backend
[03:07] <tgm4883_laptop> neofax, what tuner?
[03:12] <neofax99> Sorry!  My network went down.  Probably the rain!
[03:13] <vanjuggler> doh, my desktop doesn't come up now
[03:16] <[_Trimble_] > van: yikes
[03:16] <[_Trimble_] > i dont know how to solve from there
[03:17] <tgm4883_laptop> neofax99, what tuner?
[03:17] <Tari_> vanjuggler, what did you do?
[03:17] <tgm4883_laptop> vanjuggler, what did you do
[03:17] <tgm4883_laptop> lol
[03:17] <[_Trimble_] > im guessing he tried to install nvidia driver to fix the slow menus problem
[03:17] <vanjuggler> i switched to the nvidia drivers
[03:17] <vanjuggler> yep
[03:17] <vanjuggler> and rebooted
[03:18] <neofax99> tgm4883_laptop: I have a PVR-500 and a normal WinTV card.  They both work using mplayer.
[03:18] <tgm4883_laptop> how did you install them, and what card?
[03:18] <[_Trimble_] > im trying to figure out where to start to get my ir blaster working on the hauppage pvr-150.  i've read superm1 saying something about it helping to be using gutsy, which i am
[03:18] <tgm4883_laptop> which wintv card?
[03:19] <tgm4883_laptop> Trimble, there is a guide that you could look at for feisty, it may help
[03:19] <neofax99> God I feel like an idiot.  I kept my old partition and forgot to change the ownership to mythtv:video.  It works now!!!
[03:19] <[_Trimble_] > is it in the help.ubuntu.com systel, tgm
[03:20] <[_Trimble_] > ?
[03:20] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[03:20] <tgm4883_laptop> my internet is being slow
[03:22] <tgm4883_laptop> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty
[03:23] <tgm4883_laptop> vanjuggler, which video card and what driver and how did you install it?
[03:23] <[_Trimble_] > heh that's the page i'malraedy looking at, tgm :) thx
[03:33] <tgm4883_laptop> why is my internet so slow
[03:33] <[_Trimble_] > um... cuz i'm downloading *.dat ?
[03:33] <[_Trimble_] > lol j/k
[03:34] <tgm4883_laptop> ssh [_Trimble_]  shutdown -h -P now
[03:34] <tgm4883_laptop> ;)
[03:34] <[_Trimble_] > oh crap, why is everything shutting do
[03:35] <[_Trimble_] > that joke would have been funnier if I had the channel in my favorites so i could get back faster.. lol
[03:35] <tgm4883_laptop> lol
[03:36] <tgm4883_laptop> or if you had done this
[03:36] <[_Trimble_] > yeah
[03:36] <[_Trimble_] > that too
[03:36] <tgm4883_laptop> or if I could spell
[03:36] <tgm4883_laptop> hehe
[03:36] <tgm4883_laptop> I think im going to try rebooting
[03:36] <tgm4883_laptop> stupid router
[03:36] <[_Trimble_] > my router is nasty sometimes
[03:36] <tgm4883_laptop> back in 5, then I will fix MythbuntuGuest54's problem
[03:38] <[_Trimble_] > lol
[03:39] <Aval0n> if you pay for a dish network subscription is there anyway to get mythtv to do the tuning?
[03:39] <Aval0n> I've heard of dvb-s card and stuff
[03:39] <Aval0n> but kinda more in the pirating scene
[03:39] <Aval0n> I'm just looking to keep my subscription but use my mythtv with dish
[03:39] <tgm4883_laptop> back
[03:40] <tgm4883_laptop> what did I miss
[03:40] <MythbuntuGuest54> having a problem with archiving file/dvd.  step through archiving a file and get to the last screen without errors but nothing is happening?  nothing in the logs.? any ideas/
[03:40] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest54, what do you mean nothing is happening?  Does it bring you to a log screen?
[03:41] <tgm4883_laptop> Aval0n, the only way to do that (that I know of) is to get something like a PVR-150 and just have it record via that, and have an ir blaster change the channel
[03:41] <MythbuntuGuest54> it goes to the progress screen with " update, cancel and exit"
[03:41] <MythbuntuGuest54> but no progress
[03:41] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest54, sec
[03:41] <Aval0n> tgm hmmm
[03:42] <Aval0n> I have a pvr-500
[03:42] <tgm4883_laptop> well that would work too
[03:42] <Aval0n> does the ir blaster cause a lot of delay?
[03:43] <tgm4883_laptop> delay when changing the channel?
[03:43] <Aval0n> yes
[03:43] <tgm4883_laptop> depends on a few factors
[03:43] <Aval0n> assuming I have a fast enough PC
[03:43] <Aval0n> 3.4ghz ht p4
[03:44] <Aval0n> 2 gigs of ddr400
[03:44] <tgm4883_laptop> I don't use ir blasting though, I will, as soon as I get an Serial IR Receiver
[03:44] <tgm4883_laptop> well that doesn't really matter
[03:44] <Aval0n> o
[03:44] <Aval0n> so if you do that, do you use myth's program guide or dishs'
[03:45] <tgm4883_laptop> ir blaster is only going to change the channel, and how well it does that depends on the quality of the IR blaster and the how good/fast the receiver changes channels
[03:45] <tgm4883_laptop> you would use mythtv's program guide
[03:45] <Aval0n> excellent
[03:45] <Aval0n> cox analog looks like crap
[03:45] <Aval0n> I much prefer sd on dish network
[03:46] <Aval0n> I didn't know you could do that.
[03:46] <Aval0n> hmm
[03:46] <tgm4883_laptop> yea basically the computer is just recording one channel
[03:46] <tgm4883_laptop> kinda like a vcr hooked up to a tv
[03:46] <Aval0n> if my dish stb has duel tuners
[03:47] <tgm4883_laptop> the tv is on channel 3, but the vcr can be tuned to lots of channels
[03:47] <Aval0n> can I still use both of them
[03:47] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[03:47] <Aval0n> oh
[03:47] <tgm4883_laptop> unless
[03:47] <Aval0n> that's super lame then
[03:47] <Aval0n> for me
[03:47] <tgm4883_laptop> for some crazy reason you can watch 2 shows at the same time
[03:47] <Aval0n> or record 1 and watch the other if they come on at the same time..
[03:48] <Aval0n> or record 2 that come on at the same time if you aren't home.
[03:48] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[03:48] <Aval0n> my dish dvr that I currently have has 2 tuners
[03:48] <Aval0n> bummer that it can't be done like that..
[03:49] <tgm4883_laptop> doesn't matter, unless it can output 2 shows at once, which i seriously doubt
[03:49] <tgm4883_laptop> then you would also have to somehow tune them
[03:49] <Aval0n> it can
[03:49] <tgm4883_laptop> not going to work
[03:49] <tgm4883_laptop> you can output 2 shows at once?
[03:49] <Aval0n> i have a 2nd box in the back that my 2 kids use
[03:49] <Aval0n> goes to 2 tvs
[03:49] <Aval0n> 1 per room
[03:49] <tgm4883_laptop> you can hook 2 tv's up and watch different shows on each of them?
[03:49] <Aval0n> cox out even
[03:50] <tgm4883_laptop> link to your box?
[03:50] <Aval0n> yes
[03:50] <Aval0n> with the tuner in the back
[03:50] <Aval0n> err the stb I mean
[03:50] <Aval0n> each kid can watch a different show
[03:50] <tgm4883_laptop> link, i gotta see what we are talking about
[03:50] <Aval0n> =/
[03:50] <Aval0n> I don't know any links
[03:50] <Aval0n> sec
[03:50] <tgm4883_laptop> name and model number?
[03:51] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest54, you still there?
[03:51] <MythbuntuGuest54> yep
[03:51] <tgm4883_laptop> I haven't forgotten about you, i just found what I was looking for
[03:51] <Aval0n> TU-DP322RU
[03:52] <Aval0n> http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL027194&pathId=85&page=5&archive=true
[03:52] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest54, read this, it sounds like your problem http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythArchive#MythArchive_doesn.27t_work._It_gets_to_the_log_viewer_and_just_sits_there._What.27s_wrong.3F
[03:53] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[03:53] <MythbuntuGuest57> can you resend that link,  session restarted and lost it
[03:53] <tgm4883_laptop> Aval0n, how do both controls work?
[03:53] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest54, read this, it sounds like your problem http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythArchive#MythArchive_doesn.27t_work._It_gets_to_the_log_viewer_and_just_sits_there._What.27s_wrong.3F
[03:53] <Aval0n> seperat eremotes
[03:53] <tgm4883_laptop> right, but they each only control 1 tuner right?
[03:54] <[_Trimble_] > i had to reread everything to catch up.
[03:54] <[_Trimble_] > i'm trying to configure my pvr-150 hauppage to control a dish network receiver righ tnow lol
[03:55] <tgm4883_laptop> [_Trimble_] , you and Aval0n should work on the ir blaster together, although I admit, his is going to be more complicated
[03:56] <[_Trimble_] > lol
[03:57] <[_Trimble_] > it's my understanding that my issue is unique to the pvr-150.. at least until i get it blasting something ;)
[03:57] <tgm4883_laptop> Aval0n, I take it back, I haven't seen anything like that before (I have Cable).  If each remote only controls 1 tuner and not the other (or each tuner has a seperate IR receiver), then it's possible to use both
[03:57] <[_Trimble_] > currently, i'm trying to track down a way to figure out what parts are already installed and what aren't.
[03:58] <Aval0n> nicwe
[03:58] <[_Trimble_] > I read something on Dish's website recently about 1 receiver connecting to two separate TV's to show two separate programs.  it would stand to reason that one could connect one of those outputs to a myth tuner instead ;)
[03:59] <tgm4883_laptop> [_Trimble_]  you mean something like this http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL027194&pathId=85&page=5&archive=true
[03:59] <[_Trimble_] > i also read that each receiver can be set to receive specific remotes and theyc an be numbered from 1 to something like 20 or so
[03:59] <tgm4883_laptop> ^^link borrowed from Aval0n
[03:59] <[_Trimble_] > though, i can't imagine someone with 20 dish receivers lol
[04:00] <[_Trimble_] > yeah, like that, tgm
[04:06] <CBiLL> it's 14
[04:06] <CBiLL> not 20
[04:06] <CBiLL> and it RF remotes
[04:06] <CBiLL> so folks can have different receiver in each room
[04:06] <CBiLL> and RF remote don't try to control other room recievers
[04:17] <MythbuntuGuest70> thanks tgm,  you rock. that fixed it.  got time for one more?
[04:18] <tgm4883_laptop> sure, but the answers may be slow
[04:19] <MythbuntuGuest70> myth game,  set up xmame,  place a rom with the ext .zip in the folder.  I can see it when I browse to it but does nothing when selected
[04:20] <tgm4883_laptop> sorry, I dont know much about mythgame yet
[04:20] <Tari_> sounds like the emulator can't open the archive
[04:33] <MythbuntuGuest70> I tried using some crazy options I found on a config page, removed those from command and it fired up,  cannot find the command for fullscreen.  tried -fullsceen in the command but nothing
[04:37] <CBiLL> Evening tgm4883   were you able to resolve your fading issue yet?
[04:41] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[04:44] <CBiLL> what did you have to do to fix it?
[04:44] <CBiLL> just wanted to know for my future reference
[04:44] <tgm4883_laptop> it was a gnome screen saver issue
[04:45] <CBiLL> ah MythBuntu using Gnmoe?
[04:45] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[04:45] <tgm4883_laptop> but does have some properties
[04:45] <CBiLL> I see
[04:45] <CBiLL> cool glad to hear you fixed it
[04:45] <CBiLL> but I am having an issue myself
[04:46] <CBiLL> can't seem to get Samba to play nice
[04:46] <CBiLL> already edited smb.conf to the correct network name
[04:46] <CBiLL> oh wait
[04:46] <CBiLL> it appears now lol
[04:46] <CBiLL> ha that good =P
[04:46] <CBiLL> alright 8-)
[04:49] <tgm4883_laptop> yea im not a fan of samba
[04:50] <CBiLL> hehehe
[04:50] <CBiLL> I do all my Closed Caption editing on a windows machine since the binary only avaiable for that platform
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #118538 in mythtv (multiverse) "init script unable to "start" after backend crash" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118538
[05:01] <[_Trimble_] > ooOOOoo... toys.. my cellphone arrived in the mail today :)
[05:04] <[_Trimble_] > hi superm1
[05:04] <superm1> hi
[05:05] <[_Trimble_] > what can you tell me about: hauppage pvr150 ir BLASTER on the Gutsy Mythbuntu install?
[05:05] <superm1> well it shouldnt be much different than on feisty
[05:05] <superm1> its a pretty ugly situation getting the thing setup
[05:05] <superm1> only difference is that you have kernel modules already setup on gutsy
[05:05] <[_Trimble_] > i've been reading through the Feisty guide to getting blaster to work...
[05:06] <[_Trimble_] > yeah, i read a post where you told someone that there was something you didn't have to do on gutsy
[05:06] <[_Trimble_] > so i wanted to wait till i could ask you about that ;)
[05:06] <superm1> yeah just dont build the kernel modules again
[05:06] <superm1> getting the rest of it setup to be automatic is a more messy situation
[05:06] <[_Trimble_] > hmm... i saw a post that listed the steps to do on every kernel update..
[05:06] <superm1> because of the license on the blaster firmware
[05:06] <CBiLL> hey superm1 .. mythbuntu looking great!
[05:07] <superm1> hi CBiLL
[05:07] <[_Trimble_] > yeah mythbuntu is freakin awesome ;)
[05:07] <superm1> i'm looking really forward to making the next disk, things are getting very close
[05:07] <CBiLL> superm1 : got a question . I do know the Closed Caption are saved in mpeg file becasue I can extract them into a seperte file
[05:07] <[_Trimble_] > i NEED to get the irblaster working next.  gotta be ready when Heroes starts monday nyuck nyuck nyuck
[05:07] <CBiLL> but is it possible to have the Closed Caption recorded into mpeg as open caption?
[05:07] <superm1> haha
[05:07] <superm1> open caption?
[05:07] <superm1> never heard of such a thing
[05:08] <CBiLL> "imbedded" into the video itself
[05:08] <CBiLL> no decoder needed
[05:08] <CBiLL> ie record what I am seeing
[05:08] <superm1> that i'm not too sure
[05:08] <superm1> you're going to have to check with -users for that
[05:08] <CBiLL> ok thanks
[05:08] <CBiLL> I don't want to have to create a subtitle file for each show I record
[05:08] <superm1> [_Trimble_] , as for that blaster, there should be directions on the gutsy guide still
[05:09] <[_Trimble_] > so, do i still need to do the whole "remove lirc, config lirc-modules-source, remake, and reload" thing in gutsy for lirc?
[05:09] <superm1> No
[05:09] <[_Trimble_] > where is the gutsy guide?
[05:09] <superm1> does the gutsy page still discuss that?
[05:09] <[_Trimble_] > dunno.. where is the gutsy page?  heheh
[05:09] <superm1> it's linked right at the top of all the pages
[05:09] <superm1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Gutsy
[05:10] <superm1> see the "Ubuntu 7.10 Ubuntu 7.04" etc
[05:11] <[_Trimble_] > ok, it's similar to the feisty stuff.  I grabbed and stuck the firmware file int he right spot, and i've messed around with the lircd.conf file, but how do i start testing it?  lol
[05:12] <CBiLL> try mode2 -d /dev/lirc0
[05:12] <CBiLL> and press some remote button
[05:13] <CBiLL> if it detects it . it should spam the screen with some binary code
[05:13] <[_Trimble_] > specifically - how do i get the lirc_pvr150 driver/module/whatever installed, or how do i check if it's already there?
[05:13] <CBiLL> oh my bad then .. thought you wanted to test your setup to make sure you config'ed it all correctly
[05:13] <[_Trimble_] > the hauppage a415 remote already works PERFECTLY.  i know the ir RECEIVER is working already, right "out of the box" with mythbuntu 7.10.  it's the irblaster i need to test
[05:14] <CBiLL> oh I see ..I have not learn the irblaster yet ha!
[05:14] <[_Trimble_] > bah.... time's up.  wife is ready for hot steamy se.... um.. backrub
[05:14] <CBiLL> getting to that part next =P
[05:14] <[_Trimble_] > later all :)  good luck
[05:18] <superm1> night, try tomorrow i guess
[05:21] <CBiLL> nn superm1
[05:21] <superm1> nn
[08:21] <foxxbuntu> superm1_, you there?
[08:21] <superm1_> yeah momentarily
[08:21] <superm1_> i'm exhausted though, i'll be headed to be soon
[08:21] <foxxbuntu> hey...just gonna let you know I just purchased some hosting
[08:21] <foxxbuntu> for bandwitdh for right now
[08:21] <superm1_> okay cool
[08:21] <foxxbuntu> 2.5TB / month
[08:22] <foxxbuntu> and 250GB of storage
[08:22] <superm1_> did you talk to ben dailey already?
[08:22] <superm1_> and get it setup with dns and such
[08:23] <foxxbuntu> no, i just bought it like 10 mins ago
[08:24] <superm1_> ahokay
[08:24] <foxxbuntu> I don't have all my details yet
[08:24] <foxxbuntu> $84 for the year
[08:24] <foxxbuntu> with a domain name
[08:24] <foxxbuntu> and MySQL support ect ect
[08:24] <superm1_> what'd you get another domain name for?
[08:24] <foxxbuntu> it was part of the deal
[08:24] <superm1_> i see
[08:24] <foxxbuntu> I know...I own like 10 now
[08:24] <superm1_> okay well very cool
[08:25] <foxxbuntu> yup
[08:25] <foxxbuntu> should help us stay going
[08:25] <foxxbuntu> well...night
[08:25] <foxxbuntu> talk to later
[08:25] <superm1_> night
[08:45] <CBiLL> can anyone tell me of gossamer just only a mailing list viewer or it will accept posts?
[08:52] <superm1_> CBiLL, it's read only from that website yes
[08:52] <superm1_> to bed for me again though
[08:52] <superm1_> night
[09:20] <frink_> hm
[09:20] <frink_> 07:30 < foxxbuntu> hey...just gonna let you know I just purchased some hosting
[09:20] <frink_> 07:31 < foxxbuntu> for bandwitdh for right now
[09:20] <frink_> like if you guys need hosting, I can do it for free.
[09:20] <frink_> As much disk/bandwidth as you need
[09:42] <Rimers> hey, any of you guys have any experience with Hauppauge WinTV Nova-T 500? i have a problem with it crashing and leaving me unable to tune into any channels
[10:12] <Rimers> hmm think i may have found the problem, there have been installed a new kernel, that could have overwridden the modules for the tuner
[10:15] <directhex|work> Rimers, the nova-t 500 is known for having USB disconnect problems
[10:15] <directhex|work> Rimers, there's a fix suggested on the mythtv wiki
[10:15] <Rimers> im not sure if its disconnect problems, it stopped working overnight
[10:16] <Rimers> i wanted to tune into a channel this morning and it was without signal it said on one tuner and only 71% and no lock on the other tuner
[10:17] <Rimers> ive seen this before on it, and a reload of the driver solves it, but i was wondering if it was due to the new kernel that was installed a few days back
[10:18] <directhex|work> not specifically. it's a general problem with the nova-t 500. apply the fix on the mythtv wiki
[10:19] <Rimers> As an attempt to solve it im installing the latest driver off the linux-tv site
[10:19] <Rimers> ah okay, ill have a look
[11:05] <frink_> Rimers: what kernel u on?
[11:05] <frink_> the nova-t 500 was amost unusable for ages, it's fine now though.
[11:06] <frink_> Linux myth-desktop 2.6.22-10-generic #1 SMP Wed Aug 22 08:11:52 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:06] <Rimers> hmm beleive its the latest gusty kernel
[11:07] <frink_> same as me then, mine has been OK.
[11:08] <frink_> i also tried the new drivers for v4l-dvb but they would not compile as I am missing btis, i'll look into it later today if I have timne.
[11:08] <frink_> Rimers: Are you int he UK?
[11:08] <frink_> ah no, you is .dk
[11:08] <Rimers> okay, when i tried watching tv earlier it didnt work, i was unable to get a lock on the channel
[11:08] <Rimers> :)
[11:10] <Rimers> hmm still not able to get a lock :S on one of the tuners i can get a partial lock with 79% signal, but on the other tuner there is no signal at all
[11:10] <Rimers> Tuner 1 signal 0% :S
[11:11] <frink_> hmm
[11:11] <frink_> do you have the LNA turned on?
[11:14] <Rimers> you mean this ? options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1
[11:21] <Rimers> hmm this is odd, i stopped the myth backend to reload the tv tuner moduels, then restarted the backend, and now i cant connect to it :S
[11:21] <Rimers> the log for the backend looks fine with no error messages or anything
[11:26] <Rimers> http://pastebin.ca/704344 does these log entries mean anything to any of you?
[11:28] <Rimers> looks to me like its getting disconnected
[11:35] <Rimers> is there a way of securing that the things you write in /boot/grub/menu.lst as boot parameters always will stay there even when adding a new kernel or having the system otherwise add stuff?
[11:38] <directhex|work> Rimers, yes
[11:39] <Rimers> sweet, can you tell know how directhex|work?
[11:39] <directhex|work> Rimers, anything you want to apply to all kernels, append to the line "# kopt="
[11:39] <directhex|work> Rimers, anything you want to apply to only non-recovery kernels, append to the line "# defoptions="
[11:39] <directhex|work> Rimers, anything you want to apply to only recovery kernels, append to the line "# altoptions="
[11:39] <directhex|work> NO NOT UNCOMMENT THE LINES!
[11:40] <directhex|work> then run update-grub
[11:40] <Rimers> directhex|work: where do i find those? in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[11:41] <laga> morning
[11:43] <directhex|work> Rimers, aye
[11:43] <Rimers> directhex|work: thanks :)
[11:45] <Rimers> morning laga
[04:19] <superm1_> frink_, you can help with hosting?
[04:23] <laga> morning superm1
[04:23] <superm1> mornin
[04:25] <superm1> laga, overnight, i dist-upgraded a vm from fresh installed feisty->gutsy, installed the control centre, and then tried to change autologin
[04:25] <superm1> didn't run into any issues
[04:25] <laga> ah, right. i was supposed to verify that :/
[04:25] <laga> close the bug then
[04:25] <superm1> well i'm just wondering what the circumstances that you were under that caused it to still happen
[04:26] <superm1> if its a username with a weird character or something
[04:26] <laga> nope
[04:27] <laga> just putting back my pbuilder scripts :/
[04:27] <superm1> what happened?
[04:28] <laga> oh, i switched to amd64 and now it needs some additional magic so i can build i386 and amd64
[04:28] <superm1> oh yeah.
[04:29] <laga> whatever version of falcon i have now, it's lacking documentation for the buildd support which makes me believe that it's not the final beta 3
[04:29] <superm1> did buildd support make it in?
[04:30] <laga> it's there, but i don't know how to configure it right now
[04:30] <laga> not sure if it's complete
[04:30] <superm1> gotta check with Seveas I guess :)
[04:30] <superm1> brb, new kernel
[05:14] <MythbuntuGuest09> anyone know the command for mame to play in fullscreen?
[05:15] <laga> not me, but i bet it's in the documentation
[05:16] <MythbuntuGuest09> I've tried about 2 or 3 of the different commands but they did not work
[05:19] <MythbuntuGuest09> this is what is in the documentation Command: xmame-0.103.x11 -vidmod 1 -fullscreen     (Path and name of binary + any optional parameters)
[05:19] <MythbuntuGuest09> http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-16.html
[05:22] <superm1> laga, any luck with debconf stuff?
[05:23] <laga> havent fiddled with it yet
[05:24] <laga> busy with pbuilder and university :/
[05:24] <superm1> mkay
[05:24] <superm1> well i'm going to try to fix your lirc bug so hopefully this will be the last lirc upload
[05:24] <superm1> could you test it?
[05:24] <laga> sure
[05:24] <superm1> okay i'm just building my own debdiff first and i'll send you it as soon as i do
[05:26] <superm1> is it on amd64 or i386?
[05:26] <superm1> i can just send you a deb if its i386
[05:26] <laga> on amd64
[05:27] <superm1> psh
[05:27] <laga> :/
[05:28] <laga> amd64 is still feeling a bit odd
[05:28] <laga> i have to download zsnes from a odd third-party repo now
[05:28] <laga> at least it's working.
[05:29] <superm1> laga, http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1/lirc-ubuntu6-ubuntu7.debdiff
[05:31] <laga> compiling...
[05:32] <superm1> u know the only file that changed was lirc.postinst, you probably could have dropped it in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[05:32] <superm1> and just dpkg-reconfigure lirc
[05:32] <superm1> and see what happens
[05:35] <laga> nothing. i get to choose a remote, but /etc/modprobe.d/lirc is not updated
[05:35] <superm1> well it only updates when you switch remote types
[05:35] <laga> let me try to choose a different remote and switch back to the correct one
[05:36] <superm1> right
[05:36] <laga> right
[05:36] <laga> blacklist lirc_atiusb
[05:36] <laga> blacklist ati_remote
[05:36] <laga> yay
[05:37] <laga> looks great
[05:37] <laga> you're a star :)
[05:37] <superm1> awesome
[05:37] <superm1> i'll throw that debdiff on LP then
[05:38] <superm1> yeah now we need that debconf support in the control centre so it can properly do this too :)
[05:38] <laga> dont make me feel bad ;)
[05:39] <superm1> haha
[05:39] <laga> btw
[05:39] <tgm4883> superm1, I found the camel color between the login screen and the desktop
[05:39] <tgm4883> well, I didn't find it, just read about it
[05:39] <superm1> caramel you mean?
[05:39] <laga> did you see what i pasted about python bindings for mythtv?
[05:39] <superm1> laga, no my scrollback lost a lot yestrerday
[05:39] <laga> superm1: k
[05:39] <superm1> what'd you post?
[05:39] <superm1> tgm4883, so you know where it needs to be updated to resolve then?
[05:39] <Daviey> superm1: did you hear about the the weekly builds bug in mythmusic, gutsy build - but depending on a fesity deb?
[05:40] <laga> superm1: well, there are now python bindings for libmythui. so you can draw stuff in mythtv using python.
[05:40] <tgm4883> Yea I just tested it in my VM
[05:40] <superm1> Daviey, on trunk only
[05:40] <Daviey> superm1: yup
[05:40] <Daviey> (i guess)
[05:40] <superm1> Daviey, yeah, start throwing things at laga :)
[05:40] <tgm4883> It's described as camel color, #dab082 so whatever color that is
[05:40] <laga> trunk, bug?
[05:40] <laga> assign it to me and i'll take a look
[05:40] <superm1> laga, woah sweet
[05:40] <tgm4883> here, let me send you where I saw it
[05:40] <Daviey> laga is an eager beaver
[05:41] <superm1> that will make for the control centre to have a myth ui frontend possible
[05:41] <laga> beaver?
[05:41] <tgm4883> !bug 132833
[05:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 132833 in gdm "login background color is hardcoded" [Low,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132833
[05:41] <superm1> laga, in trunk only i'm assuming?
[05:41] <laga> superm1: might work with 0.20 but i havent tried it
[05:42] <Daviey> Where did the drupal theme come from?
[05:42] <superm1> laga, well its a bit of work to rewrite a whole new frontend for the control centre this late in the cycle....
[05:42] <superm1> Daviey, i found it and modified it
[05:42] <Daviey> superm1: where
[05:43] <superm1> it's based off of brushedsteel
[05:43] <superm1> the original is really narrow
[05:43] <superm1> and doesn't work well with our buttons
[05:43] <Daviey> I'm looking for a nice drupal theme, and they are all naff
[05:43] <superm1> i really love ubuntu studio's drupal theme
[05:43] <superm1> they did a great job on it
[05:43] <Daviey> They used to be hosted on pegasys right?
[05:44] <Daviey> Do you know why they migrated to dreamhost? :O
[05:44] <Daviey> They have done a spiffing job with that theme
[05:44] <laga> superm1: i downloaded the tarball. some readme stated it's early and has memleaks ec
[05:44] <laga> etc*
[05:45] <Daviey> laga: reckon it'll ever be commited tho?
[05:45] <superm1> Daviey, they used to be host on a pegasus's sister
[05:45] <laga> Daviey: no clue
[05:45] <superm1> laga, okay then it will be something to target for next release then
[05:45] <superm1> that will be very cool though
[05:45] <laga> yes.
[05:46] <Daviey> juski is v. anti that patch
[05:46] <laga> i hope it'll be improved and committed to trunk eventually. there was another guy who tried it and he probably didn't get very far
[05:46] <laga> juski is anti everything
[05:46] <laga> ;)
[05:46] <superm1> why is juski against it?
[05:47] <superm1> tgm4883, good find on that, too bad it probably won't get fixed this cycle
[05:47] <tgm4883> yea
[05:47] <tgm4883> I can fix it on my machine though :)
[05:47] <laga> blacklist lirc_atiusb
[05:47] <laga> blacklist ati_remote
[05:47] <Daviey> 10:56 < juski> I just don't like the idea there's suddenly going to be zillions  of shitty plugins
[05:47] <laga> sorry
[05:48] <superm1> Daviey, why does he seem to think python plugins == shitty plugins?
[05:48] <superm1> it just means easier to write plugins....
[05:48] <Daviey> That was my argument
[05:48] <superm1> you could use the same argument with FF
[05:48] <tgm4883> eh, I can see his argument
[05:48] <Daviey> python can be hacky... but doesn't need to be
[05:48] <superm1> which does have zillions of shitty plugins
[05:48] <superm1> but lots of great ones too
[05:49] <laga> he prolly thinks that ever idiot will make a plugin once python bindings are available
[05:49] <tgm4883> he's afraid that zillions of shitty plugins will water down the product
[05:49] <superm1> well if they are installed by default of course
[05:49] <Daviey> And so what?  If the plugin sux - then don't use it, or rewrite it in C/C++
[05:49] <laga> we simply won't ship bad plugins
[05:49] <superm1> but if there is a nice system to rank plugins on a site somewhere
[05:49] <laga> well, we're already shipping mythstream, OK...
[05:50] <tgm4883> superm1, doesn't that sort of already exist?
[05:50] <superm1> mythstream is pretty cool though
[05:50] <superm1> i like it
[05:50] <superm1> keescook, could you ack Bug #140940 before the beta freeze tomorrow?
[05:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 140940 in lirc "ati_remote.ko not unloaded during configure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/140940
[05:52] <superm1> Daviey, foxbuntu has another mirror he paid for some hosting to add on
[05:52] <superm1> next time he's on, i'll get some more info from him to get things added
[05:52] <superm1> also frink_  offered earlier today bandwidth
[05:52] <Daviey> Oh, just PM or email me url - and I'll add it
[05:52] <keescook> superm1: I'd recommend a few changes to your grep usage.  so we don't match sub-strings, I'd say use    egrep -q '^'"$item"'$' /proc/modules     (and use -q which doesn't need the /dev/null redirect)
[05:53] <keescook> e.g. lirc_ati would match lirc_atiusb
[05:53] <keescook> (with the current test)
[05:53] <superm1> keescook, ah i didn't consider substrings, good point
[05:55] <superm1> well even that won't work appropriately though
[05:56] <superm1> because /proc/modules has additional info after the module name
[05:56] <superm1> it'll have to be egrep -q '^'"$item"'\ ' /proc/modules
[06:00] <superm1> keescook, okay i just tested that with a few other loaded modules, and put the debdiff back up
[06:01] <keescook> superm1: ah, right, good catch with the space.  (shouldn't need the \ when it's in ''
[06:01] <keescook> ) but that's cool, doesn't hurt either
[06:02] <superm1> i've gotten really accustomed to escaping spaces anywhere i go now :)
[06:03] <laga> i get this error with pbuilder:
[06:03] <laga> Command line parameter [myththemes_0.20.99+trunk14511-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1_source.dsc]  is not a valid .dsc file name
[06:03] <laga> can anyone see what's wrong?
[06:04] <superm1> whew that's a long version number
[06:04] <superm1> perhaps you're not properly capturing something in your pbuilder wrapper scripts (if you have them)?
[06:04] <laga> well, *i* as gonna use ~ppa!
[06:04] <laga> hum, true
[06:05] <laga> i'll check
[06:05] <keescook> superm1: hm, seems we are already in beta freeze.  we'll have to wait until the beta is out, I think.
[06:06] <superm1> oh i see.  is it just main, or is it universe/multiverse too then?
[06:06] <keescook> main has a harder freeze than universe at the moment.
[06:07] <keescook> I think universe just needs a manual shove.
[06:07] <superm1> ah alright
[06:22] <laga> duh. filename was indeed incorrect :/
[06:30] <laga> i want my -rt kernel back. compiling mythtv makes this box slow now
[06:33] <hendrixski> what's the -rt kernel?
[06:34] <laga> hendrixski: realtime kernel. it makes desktop usage a bit smoother here, but it's got a few problems
[06:35] <hendrixski> ah,  what kinds of problems?
[06:36] <laga> virtualbox wouldn't work properly and the restricted-modules package did not come with the nvidia driver
[06:36] <laga> or fglrx for that matter
[06:38] <hendrixski> ah, so both driver-level and userspace level problems
[06:38] <laga> virtualbox is a bit kernelspace, too :)
[06:38] <laga> nvidia.ko worked fine after installing it manually, though
[06:39] <hendrixski> good point
[06:39] <laga> oh, and linux-ubuntu-modules was not built properly against the -rt kernel. they had a new upload with the same major version number which changed the ABI but didn't rebuild that package
[06:40] <laga> not a bug in that kernel per se, just "beta" software ;)
[06:40] <hendrixski> is a realtime kernel a package option? I'm not seeing it... or did you compile it yourself?
[06:40] <laga> it's in gutsy
[06:40] <laga> package linux-rt
[06:40] <hendrixski> sweet
[06:40] <hendrixski> I keep hearing more and more good things about gutsy
[06:40] <hendrixski> except... that review they just posted on slashdot... but everything else is positive
[06:41] <laga> i use kde anyways
[06:52] <hendrixski> laga, isn't a realtime kernel supposed to go more towards embedded devices and appliances?
[06:53] <hendrixski> and if so... has mythtv worked well for you on it?
[06:58] <laga> i havent really tried mythtv on it
[06:58] <laga> sound was broken for me, the kernel module needed to be re-linked
[06:59] <hendrixski> oh, but that'll probably be fixed before gutsy ships, right?
[07:04] <laga> of course
[07:04] <laga> well, at least i hope so.
[07:09] <Corvix> does anyone have experience with EIT over DVB-S in Germany? I get a time difference in the EPG
[07:10] <laga> is your time zone set up correctly?
[07:10] <Corvix> runnin 0.20.2, gathering the data seems to work fine
[07:10] <Corvix> hmm ...
[07:10] <Corvix> it was set to Europe/London and I just reset it to Europe/Berlin
[07:10] <laga> Corvix: ls -al /etc/localtime
[07:10] <laga> yes, london is one hour behind us
[07:11] <Corvix> ok, after i set it to berlin, i guess ill change the time settings for xmltv and eit to auto and reboot
[07:12] <Corvix> do you think I'll have to delete existing eit data and repopulate it?
[07:12] <laga> i dunno
[07:12] <laga> :)
[07:12] <Corvix> more /etc/timezone
[07:12] <Corvix> gives Europe/Berlin, that should be ok or?
[07:13] <Corvix> hw clock is set to local time ...
[07:13] <laga> yes
[07:13] <laga> hum
[07:13] <laga> if your hwclock is set to local time, you might have to tell that to your distro
[07:13] <laga> oh, you're using ubuntu i gues
[07:13] <Corvix> jupp ... a commandline feisty with blackbox
[07:14] <laga>  /etc/default/rcS
[07:14] <laga> check that file
[07:14] <laga> ok, i'm afk
[07:15] <Corvix> utc=no
[07:15] <Corvix> that seems allright
[07:16] <Corvix> guess ill reboot and see what happens
[07:16] <Corvix> thatnks anyway so far
[07:26] <Corvix> hmmm ... no success ... still a show that is on at 2000 shows up in the EPG at 1900
[07:27] <Corvix> anyone else? do I have to clean out old EIT data and repopulate it? if so how?
[08:21] <laga> Corvix_: you can empty the DB
[08:21] <laga> using "truncate", AFAIK... i usually use phpmyadmin for such tasks
[08:25] <Rimers> hmm im starting to not like updates.... Sound is gone now :S
[08:25] <laga> on gutsy?
[08:26] <Rimers> yup
[08:27] <laga> using snd-hda-intel?
[08:27] <Rimers> had digital out working on my via ac97
[08:27] <Rimers> and after an update there is no sound, ive been monkeying with the settings for 20 minutes now without luck
[08:27] <laga> is sound still working in other apps?
[08:28] <Rimers> as far as i can find out there is no sound at all
[08:28] <laga> hum
[08:28] <laga> is there anything in dmesg?
[08:28] <Rimers> ive checked that the module is loaded and that the mixer is set correctly
[08:29] <Rimers> as far as i can see there is no errors related to sound in dmesg
[08:29] <laga> and what happens if you use mplayer to play an mp3 file?
[08:30] <Rimers> i have an anoying error though, my dvd drive is spamming me with http://pastebin.ca/704957
[08:33] <superm1> Rimers, either that disk is bad or the drive is dying
[08:34] <Rimers> but imstarting to beleive the dvd error is a cable error
[08:34] <Rimers> its my DVD drive
[08:34] <superm1> well replacing the cable never hurts
[08:35] <laga> 20:16 < laga> and what happens if you use mplayer to play an mp3 file?
[08:36] <superm1> huh?
[08:36] <Rimers> laga, havnt been able to test,, Wife watching tv atm, but been trying to play music and tv from mythtv without luck
[08:36] <tgm4883> superm1, that is simply untrue
[08:36] <Rimers> it all worked before the update
[08:36] <tgm4883> changing cables hurts over 1 american each year
[08:36] <superm1> tgm4883, haha
[08:36] <tgm4883> im starting a foundation dedicated just to that
[08:36] <superm1> where do you gather these statistics
[08:37] <tgm4883> we're going to have a telethon on PBS about it
[08:37] <superm1> well too bad i dont watch PBS
[08:37] <superm1> let me know when to schedule it
[08:37] <superm1> will it be in hd?
[08:37] <tgm4883> of couse :)
[08:38] <tgm4883> for our statistics, we use the datum method
[08:43] <tgm4883> it's a very technical process with a very complex mathmatical equation (A*.1543/(AB)/(3243*2354)245.321^2/(|32465BA|^|324|))^0
[08:43] <superm1> doesn't look very complex.  looks like its just 1
[08:43] <tgm4883> are you questioning the equation?
[08:44] <tgm4883> humph, you must be one of those people then
[08:48] <laga> superm1: did we ever finish talking about the dbg support for the fixes packages?
[08:48] <superm1> well last i remember about it, you were adding a --compile-type=apport
[08:48] <superm1> upstream
[08:48] <superm1> did that ever happen?
[08:49] <laga> it's not committed yet, but danielk liked it.
[08:49] <superm1> can you check with him on it?
[08:49] <superm1> see if he can't get that added
[08:49] <superm1> and then we can just pull a patch for it
[08:49] <laga> it won't get added to -fixes i'
[08:50] <laga> m afraid
[08:50] <superm1> well that's okay, i can always pull a patch from trunk
[08:50] <superm1> no rules against that
[08:50] <laga> tbh, the other guys changes were similar. he just optimized everywhere while keeping dbg symbols
[08:50] <laga> ok
[08:50] <laga> if it applies cleanly :)
[08:50] <laga> good. i'll poke him about it
[08:51] <laga> i can't get the "groovy dancing girl" song out of my head
[08:55] <laga> we gotta drop --enable-proc-opt.
[08:56] <laga> right, since our backtraces are useless anyways we can keep it for a while
[08:56] <superm1> well once you get this --apport thing in
[08:56] <superm1> i'll do a local build
[08:56] <superm1> and test some hd stuff against it
[08:57] <superm1> because that is the only place i forsee suffrage
[08:57] <superm1> i was going to prep another 'mythtv' upload for right after beta
[08:57] <superm1> so once you've got this ready to go, i'll plan to have this in there and be the first build like that
[08:57] <laga> ok.
[09:01] <frink_> hmm, something deletes my botch symlink from /dev/lirc to /dev/lirc0
[09:02] <laga> udev?
[10:07] <hendrixski> there is a mythstream package fr Ubuntu, yes?
[10:24] <tgm4883> yes
[10:29] <hendrixski> tgm4883_laptop, is it on some special repository?
[10:48] <tgm4883_laptop> hendrixski, what version are you using?  Feisty, Gutsy?
[10:52] <hendrixski> tgm4883_laptop, tgm4883  I'm on feisty
[10:52] <hendrixski> oh, is there a gutsy package?  Is it backportable to 7.04
[10:53] <tgm4883> nope, just a gutsy package
[10:54] <tgm4883> I think something changed between gutsy and feisty for things like mythstream
[10:54] <tgm4883> to be easily added
[10:55] <hendrixski> sweet
[10:56] <hendrixski> So I should grab a gutsy repository, take a feisty pbuilder and run the packaging thing on it and it should be all fine, right?
[10:57] <tgm4883> eh
[10:57] <tgm4883> perhaps
[10:57] <tgm4883> you wouldn't want to grab the gutsy repo
[10:57] <tgm4883> unless you were going to update
[10:57] <tgm4883> as it's in universe
[10:58] <hendrixski> ah, Ok
[10:58] <tgm4883> eh, worth a shot I suppose
[10:58] <hendrixski> oh, I misread what you wrote, you said things did change between the two
[10:58] <tgm4883> yea
[10:59] <tgm4883> you can always add it manually
[10:59] <hendrixski> oh?  if I compiled it, wouldn't it go into the wrong directory?
[10:59] <tgm4883> theres 2 things you could try
[11:00] <tgm4883> 1st being just compiling the package from the gutsy repo
[11:00] <tgm4883> the other being installing from source
[11:00] <tgm4883> the change that I was talking about
[11:01] <tgm4883> is that I think in gutsy it is easier for packages to update mythtv menus
[11:01] <tgm4883> but i could be completely wrong about that
[11:02] <hendrixski> tgm4883, ooh, how did they change the menu management... 'cause I was wondering about that
[11:02] <tgm4883> I'd ask superm1 about that, as he would know more than I.
[11:02] <hendrixski> like if I wanted to take one of the unofficial plugins and package, how would I not f*** everything up by having to overwrite the menus
[11:02] <tgm4883> I just take orders from him :)
[11:02] <hendrixski> I C
[11:02] <hendrixski> is that documented anywhere by any chance?
[11:03] <tgm4883> most likely
[11:03] <tgm4883> if your just wanting to package unofficial plugins
[11:03] <tgm4883> have you read the packing doc (or already know how to package?)
[11:04] <hendrixski> tgm4883, I've done a few for myself, but it's not a work of art I'd show to anyone else
[11:05] <tgm4883> well there are a few things that you have to adhere to for it to go into universe
[11:06] <hendrixski> :-) changing files in other packages is one of those things to adhere to...
[11:06] <hendrixski> hence why I was wondering how to add plugins without changing menu files that belong to other packages
[11:06] <hendrixski> if superm1 already solved that one, that's awesome
[11:07] <hendrixski> I guess I'll just make a schroot with gutsy and take a look at the packages... 'cause google isn't looking very promising
[11:15] <MythbuntuGuest04> Hi all!
[11:15] <MythbuntuGuest04> I am having trouble with my PVR 350 getting channels above 12
[11:15] <MythbuntuGuest04> I am wondering where to start
[11:15] <MythbuntuGuest04> any IVTV experts here?
[11:17] <laga> hendrixski: it's called a diversion
[11:17] <laga> hendrixski: mythbuntu-control-centre does it
[11:18] <hendrixski> oh?
[11:18] <laga> ymstart be asking google?
[11:18] <laga> MythbuntuGuest04: start by asking google?
[11:20] <hendrixski> lol, when I google for anything with diversion all these spanish links come up
[11:20] <hendrixski> :-/ and I learned French in school
[11:22] <hendrixski> laga, so if someone wanted to make a package of the hundreds of mythtv plugins that are on sourceforge... they'd have to have it go through mythbuntu-control-centre?
[11:23] <laga> ah, noce.
[11:23] <laga> mythbuntu-control-centre kinda ships with its own version of the settings main menu file
[11:23] <laga> it'll be possible soon (AFAIK) to have xml include sfor themes. if that applies to menu themes as well i dunno
[11:24] <hendrixski> ah
[11:25] <laga> in trunk, that is
[11:27] <hendrixski> hhmm... I'll definately have to take a look at that... when did the control center first start development?
[11:27] <laga> btw,
[11:27] <laga> err
[11:27] <laga> maybe a few months ago
[11:28] <laga> btw,. diversions are not feature of the controlc entre itself but of debian's package management
[11:29] <hendrixski> oh, I didn't catch that part before...
[11:29] <hendrixski> diversions are described in the debian packiging guide?
[11:30] <laga> probably
[11:31] <laga> back to the ps2! :)
[11:31] <hendrixski> k.  well, thanks for the explanation
[11:31] <hendrixski> that gave me a lot of great stuff to start reading about that I wouldn't have got otherwise
[11:31] <hendrixski> thanks laga
[11:45] <frink_> hey all
[11:45] <frink_> hey laga
[12:11] <tgm4883> any know what the status of us getting on ubuntu servers for ISO distrobution is?
[12:18] <superm1> laga, !!!!
[12:18] <superm1> its fixed
[12:19] <superm1> unionfs :)
[12:20] <Daviey> I noticed that bug on boot up, was that causing you issues?
[12:40] <[_Trimble_] > hi all, im back
[12:46] <superm1> Daviey, you mena the unionfs?
[12:46] <superm1> yes
[12:47] <superm1> that was causing more issues than you can shake a stick at
[12:47] <[_Trimble_] > ok, i'm going to try again to attack the pvr-150 blaster on gutsy.
[12:47] <[_Trimble_] > superm1, you said i dont have to redo the kernel module.. but I apparently DO need to re-run the config to get the lirc_pvr150 driver into play
[12:48] <[_Trimble_] > and if I'mreading right, NOT the lirc_i2c module
[12:48] <superm1> well for now, edit the /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[12:48] <superm1> and replace lirc_i2c with lirc_pvr150
[12:49] <[_Trimble_] > just do that?
[12:49] <[_Trimble_] > is lirc_pvr150 even on my machine i wonder?  how do i checkthat it's tehre?
[12:50] <[_Trimble_] > i can never remember stuff.. lemme check my notes before y'all tell me the answer is on google
[12:50] <tgm4883> woohoo home time
[12:51] <tgm4883> back in a bit
[12:51] <tgm4883> back
[12:52] <tgm4883> it's really sweet being able to work from home ;)  Makes that trip home fly by
[12:52] <[_Trimble_] > yeah tellme about it.. i work from home every day now
[12:52] <superm1> yeah it should be there
[12:52] <[_Trimble_] > there are hidden disadvantages though... like "honey, would you empty the dishwasher?"  "I'm in a freakin meeting, dear!"
[12:52] <superm1> all the modules are built
[12:52] <tgm4883> Now I need to get a sprint wireless card and a lockpick set.  Then I could work from other peoples home
[12:53] <tgm4883> so true
[12:53] <[_Trimble_] > need to reboot?  or can I just restart lirc?
[12:53] <laga> superm1: cool.
[12:53] <superm1> just restart lirc
[12:53] <superm1> laga, i'll try a build tonight
[12:53] <laga> that's great
[12:53] <[_Trimble_] > sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart    ?
[12:57] <morphinex> howdy
[12:58] <laga> superm1: i'm building a livedisk with trunk packages right now
[12:59] <tgm4883> hi morphinex
[12:59] <superm1> laga, hopefully the package has cleared the queue
[12:59] <superm1> i just saw the bug report telling me it was cleared
[12:59] <superm1> and that's all i knew
[12:59] <morphinex> I'm just about to replace my FC6 install with mythbuntu this evening
[01:00] <tgm4883> sweet
[01:00] <morphinex> hoping it goes smoothly... will the ubuntu installed be able to deal with my lvm /video partition right?
[01:00] <tgm4883> superm1, comments of lvm and mythbuntu?
[01:01] <morphinex> I obviously want to preserve my recordings
[01:01] <tgm4883> of course
[01:03] <laga> superm1: there's no kernel update on my gutsy box. it'll take some more time i guess
[01:03] <superm1> laga, :(
[01:03] <superm1> well the bug just published like an hour ago
[01:04] <tgm4883> superm1, does lvm work oob?
[01:04] <superm1> well lvm is a funny thing
[01:04] <superm1> because there is no support in ubiquity for it
[01:04] <superm1> but
[01:05] <superm1> but if your extra partition is lvm, you can just format the one partition
[01:05] <superm1> and then leave the other one intact
[01:05] <morphinex> yeah, I guess thaty is what I'll dop
[01:06] <morphinex> does mythbuntu support jfs?
[01:06] <laga> ubuntu: an ancient african word meaning "i can't install debian"
[01:06] <superm1> i'm going to discuss lvm at UDS with the installer guys
[01:06] <superm1> yes
[01:06] <superm1> jfs is supported
[01:07] <morphinex> i know the alternate install iso of 7.04 has some kind of lvm support
[01:07] <superm1> i'm more partial to xfs myself, but you all the common filesystems are doable
[01:07] <superm1> yeah you can do lvm in the alternate only atm
[01:09] <[_Trimble_] > HMM...
[01:09] <[_Trimble_] > irsend: hardware does not support sending
[01:09] <[_Trimble_] > i did something wrong
[01:10] <Mersault> Hello laga, I come for information.
[01:10] <[_Trimble_] > i updated hardware.conf, pushed in my customized lircd.conf that includes blaster codes, and restarted lirc.  tested irw, works fine, but irsend complains :(
[01:11] <Mersault> are the svn trunk packages linked to from the mythbuntu website working yet?
[01:12] <superm1> [_Trimble_] , make sure that lirc_pvr150 is loaded and not lirc_i2c?
[01:12] <[_Trimble_] > how?
[01:12] <superm1> lsmod
[01:12] <[_Trimble_] > oh
[01:12] <superm1> lsmod | grep lirc
[01:12] <[_Trimble_] > gotcha thx
[01:13] <laga> Mersault: yes, they should. you'll probably run into an issue when updating the plugins, so i recomemnd you remove them before installing the trunk versions. a fix will be released later this week
[01:13] <[_Trimble_] > im restarting the box atm, will check in a sec
[01:13] <superm1> laga, okay i just synced weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org since they are working again
[01:13] <Mersault> laga, do I need to do anything special like a --purge, or just remove them without anything special?
[01:14] <laga> Mersault: removing them normally should be fine
[01:14] <Mersault> just the plugins, or the frontend too?
[01:15] <laga> Mersault: just the plugins. mythweather and mythmusic, AFAIK
[01:15] <laga> Mersault: you'll find out :)
[01:17] <Mersault> true dat
[01:17] <[_Trimble_] > does the internal player use .srt files for subtitles?