[02:16] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[05:40] <ducasse> good morning
[07:44] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:25] <Deano59> good morning.
[13:20] <Psi-Jack> Heh, so, anyone notice recent Firefox updates enabling TRR by default, causing local DNS resolution to just fail?
[13:21] <joelcrump> if that's the thing i'm thinking of it asked me and i declined, i believe
[13:21] <Psi-Jack> It doesn't ask, it just enables it, DNS over HTTPS, basically.
[13:22] <joelcrump> i may be thinking of something else, not sure
[13:23] <Psi-Jack> Heh.
[13:24] <Psi-Jack> Yeah. This was something that, for me, which I have local DNS, made looking up local DNS versus remote DNS, completely broken, and all because Firefox decided to silently enable DNS over HTTPS.
[13:24] <Psi-Jack> Which is going to piss off a lot of people I imagine, especially in similar split-horizon DNS situations.
[13:42] <tds> Psi-Jack: out of interest, where are you?
[13:43] <Psi-Jack> I'm... At home?
[13:43] <tds> I think firefox were planning to only enable it in certain countries
[13:43] <Psi-Jack> Ah, Florida, USA.
[13:43] <tds> ah, that would line up
[13:46] <tds> but this kind of thing is often discussed in #dns, may be worth grumbling there if you like :)
[13:46] <Psi-Jack> Yeah, I had to specifically go and disable that. :/
[13:47] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm.. #dns wouldn't be the right place. More like Mozila's IRC channels, directly.
[13:47] <Psi-Jack> I already personally hate that their browser does its own DNS resolving and caching.
[13:52] <Talikka> Are there "universal" Ubuntu guide books that are translated into several languages? How is the translation process managed if e.g. the original (English?) version is changed?
[16:36] <GR1M0R4CL3> hello
[16:37] <joelcrump> hello
[17:52] <GR1M0R4CL3> i feel stupid
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> why's that
[17:52] <GR1M0R4CL3> in the settings, power options. there are 2 buttons for wifi and bluetooth
[17:53] <GR1M0R4CL3> i thought those, when ON, would allow Gnome to "turn off wifi or bluetooth" to save power
[17:53] <GR1M0R4CL3> so i turned them off to avoid losing wifi and of course, those buttons DO turn off wifi when clicked
[17:53] <GR1M0R4CL3> took me 3 disconnect in a row to realize I was the one disconnecting myself
[17:53] <GR1M0R4CL3> ><
[17:54] <joelcrump> i did the same thing not long after installing 20.04, i misunderstood what it meant in the settings
[18:00] <sarnold> oh jeeeze
[18:01] <sarnold> I've heard apple switches have the same feeling, and heard much grumbling that we'd followed their mistakes on that one. or they followed our mistakes. I'm not sure which :)
[18:02] <joelcrump> well i mean i figured it out once i did it
[18:03] <joelcrump> it didn't take away from my appreciation of ubuntu's excellent setup of linux
[18:35] <lordcirth> Anyone got a link to good docs on tuning LVM for NVMe?
[18:47] <daftykins> can't see the advice being any different than SSDs in general, be they SATA or PCIe - NVMe is just a protocol and a misused one at that, we didn't call SSDs or HDDs 'AHCI'. though i don't touch LVM -
[18:58] <lordcirth> daftykins, I meant more for NVMe speeds rather than the protocol. A coworker has benched LVM as being 2x slower than raw on Optane, and I'm curious to know hy
[18:59] <daftykins> PCIe speeds ;)
[19:00] <lordcirth> Sure
[22:53] <oerheks> just a notice; https://blogs.oracle.com/java-platform-group/java-client-roadmap-updates


[09:22] <LittleFireCracke> BHSPitLappy, I have two soundcards on a my pc and an usb mic (actually a logitech webcam with build in mic)
[09:22] <THX-1138> atlef - i still admire you for speaking english, arabic and german.
[09:22] <atlef> THX-1138 : i've noticed :-) , but there are exceptions
[09:23] <BHSPitLappy> LittleFireCracke, I think your usb mic has its own sound card, that's what I'm saying
[09:23] <atlef> what made you think I speak arabic, I thought you said you do.
[09:23] <LittleFireCracke> everything works fine, just ubuntu, doesn't have the windows like settings in sounds. Use this device for playback or use this device for recording. BHSPitLappy
[09:23] <BHSPitLappy> play around and see if you can get anything to happen in the volume manager
[09:24] <LittleFireCracke> BHSPitLappy, its in the volumeicon listing. But soundrecoder, does nothing with it.
[09:24] <freakabcd> atlef, THX-1138 , so you guys use/have_used logitech quickcam under linux?
[09:24] <THX-1138> "atlef"? - nvm
[09:24] <BHSPitLappy> LittleFireCracke, sounds like a very eligible bug report / feature request.
[09:24] <kane77> hi all!
[09:24] <BHSPitLappy> yo
[09:24] <freakabcd> i dunno how to get it working, or more precisely: what the heck to do. cos theres a few differene drivers and some of their websites don;t work at all :(
[09:25] <atlef> i tried a long time ago, but never got it to work.
[09:25] <atlef> THX-1138 : nvm?
[09:26] <freakabcd> LittleFireCracke, click on the volume control to bring out the dialog. then Edit-Preferences. in the resulting dialog make sure there is a check box next to 'Mic Select'
[09:26] <THX-1138> nvm "never mind" Are you Norwegian?
[09:27] <atlef> yes
[09:27] <freakabcd> LittleFireCracke, then once you close this small dialog window, you should have an 'Options' tab in the volume control. in there check if it shoes 2 options for you. try with both options
[09:27] <wims> heia norge
[09:27] <atlef> heilt regtigt
[09:27] <THX-1138> ah. - Thats neat. - i love the 'net where else can you meet so many different people.
[09:28] <atlef> it's like....huge man
[09:28] <R3linquish3r> I'm having trouble getting Teamspeak to run on x64 Edgy. Can anyone help?
[09:28] <THX-1138> Rofl - Yes, i am from San Diego. U.S.
[09:29] <pmjdebruijn> R3linquish3r, teamspeak = 32bit
[09:29] <atlef> the world gets smaller every day
[09:29] <train2> R3linquish3r, runs here... probably just missing some 32-bit libs
[09:29] <freakabcd> atlef, grr.. i had another noname crappy cam work without me doing anything on dapper.. so i'm pissed with logitech
[09:29] <R3linquish3r> pmjdebruijn, is there a way to get it to run on 64/ is there an alternative?
[09:29] <HumanPrototype> R3linquish3r, if its 32bit you will need a 32bit chroot
[09:29] <pmjdebruijn> R3linquish3r, you probably need some libs
[09:30] <pmjdebruijn> R3linquish3r, what HumanPrototype says...
[09:30] <THX-1138> Teamspeak is a challenge on it's own add the secondary app/game and it gets really erm interesting to bind keys
[09:30] <R3linquish3r> alright ill try that then
[09:30] <R3linquish3r> THX-1138 i never had any problem with it on 32 bit
[09:30] <atlef> i try to check now if it's compatible.
[09:30] <train2> R3linquish3r, try ldd ./Teamspeak and see what it's missing
[09:30] <LittleFireCracke> freakabcd, I don't see the options dialog.
[09:31] <freakabcd> atlef, you talking to me?
[09:31] <freakabcd> LittleFireCracke, huh? did you open up the volume control?
[09:31] <atlef> freakabcd : sorry, yes
[09:31] <freakabcd> LittleFireCracke, then, did you cick on Edit->Preferences?
[09:31] <LittleFireCracke> yes
[09:31] <freakabcd> atlef, thanks
[09:31] <R3linquish3r> train2: the install i downloaded is missing the setup.sh file its suposed to have. at least i have it in 32
[09:32] <freakabcd> LittleFireCracke, now, in there, did you scroll down and put a tick in the checkbox next to 'Mic Select' ?
[09:32] <LittleFireCracke> yes, freakabcd , then made sure checkbox was enabled.
[09:32] <LittleFireCracke> freakabcd, the usb-device had only one option, microphone.
[09:32] <Rapidwolve> Is it possible to install Ubuntu on a partition throught a LiveCD?
[09:32] <freakabcd> ok good. now there should be an extra tab in the volume control: 'Playback, 'Capture' etc.
[09:33] <LittleFireCracke> freakabcd, there is just capture, but ok.
[09:33] <Rapidwolve> Please PM me with an answer
[09:33] <drivera> Hey, folks. Let's say I've got the ubuntu CD in my hands. I'm on WinXP. I format c:. What do I do now? Does it partition itself and all that jazz?
[09:33] <Rapidwolve> I really need help with this
[09:33] <ReinH> guys, noob question. I've sudo chmod -R 006 a_directory   now when I cd a_directory it tells me Permission denied
[09:33] <LittleFireCracke> with the two taps, you meant the two buttons? freakabcd ?
[09:33] <freakabcd> there should ne a 'Playback' tab for sure!
[09:33] <ReinH> but the permissions look fine in nautilus :/
[09:33] <ReinH> * mean 0666
[09:34] <freakabcd> LittleFireCracke, i will post a screenshot
[09:34] <LittleFireCracke> freakabcd, no, its a webcam with build in mic.
[09:34] <freakabcd> uh. webcam with built in mic..
[09:34] <freakabcd> now thats different..
[09:34] <ArrenLex> drivera: you want to replace XP with Ubuntu? Why not dual boot?
[09:34] <drivera> Because that sounds harder.
[09:34] <LittleFireCracke> drivera, its not
[09:34] <freakabcd> sorry man. i'm having no idea about where to start for my webcam.. :(
[09:35] <ArrenLex> drivera: it's not. Ubuntu sets it all up for you.
[09:35] <ReinH> drivera: not at all. It's quite easy
[09:35] <drivera> (Is it much harder?
[09:35] <drivera> )
[09:35] <LittleFireCracke> freakabcd, you where the person asking about logitech cam?
[09:35] <ArrenLex> It's not harder.
[09:35] <ArrenLex> At all.
[09:36] <ReinH> I actually created a Gparted live cd before I realized that the ubuntu install process would handle partitioning on its own
[09:36] <drivera> Alright, so what do I do?
[09:36] <freakabcd> LittleFireCracke, indeed i am the person asking about the Logitech cam
[09:36] <drivera> I have both a WinXP install CD and an Ubuntu install CD. I'm currently backing up everything on an iPod.
[09:36] <ArrenLex> drivera: you don't have to remove XP!
[09:36] <THX-1138> drivera:The Live CD will let you try things out. (Though to be honest it is more difficult for laptops hardware is less documented)
[09:36] <LittleFireCracke> freakabcd, my cam with mic, is also a logitech cam, a logitech pro 3000 cam or something like that.
[09:36] <ArrenLex> drivera: although a backup is a good idea in case something goes wrong.
[09:36] <ReinH> drivera: defrag your HD, start the ubuntu install, set up a partition as it directs you, let it install ubuntu into that partition, boot into ubuntu
[09:37] <drivera> I kind of broke my XP, I'm trying to get a fresh start.
[09:37] <ArrenLex> Oh.
[09:37] <freakabcd> LittleFireCracke, and it works by just plugging it in ?
[09:37] <ReinH> Ah
[09:37] <ReinH> lol
[09:37] <ArrenLex> drivera: you'll need to install XP first and Ubuntu second.
[09:37] <drivera> Ok, do I need to partition stuff?
[09:37] <LittleFireCracke> freakabcd, I didn't try the cam, but the mic does show up.
[09:37] <THX-1138> drivera - lol XP ill break or be broken simply by attaching it to a network.
[09:38] <ReinH> Guys, my chmod question? I've sudo chmod -R 0666 directory ... when I cd directory it tells me Permission denied... what did I do wrong?
[09:38] <drivera> It broke really bad. As in, I stopped trying to describe the symptoms and just refer to it as "broken"
[09:38] <ArrenLex> drivera: yes. If you'll need three partitions to make it work, but you can have as many as you like. You'll need an NTFS partition for XP, an ext3 partition for ubuntu, and a swap partition for ubuntu.
[09:38] <atlef> THX-1138 : oh, come now, it isn't that bad
[09:38] <atlef> :-)
[09:38] <Xk2c> ReinH: der directory itself must have 7
[09:38] <ArrenLex> ReinH: can you paste the "ls -l" for that folder?
[09:38] <freakabcd> LittleFireCracke, the thing is: withried a few days back, a no-name usb webcam it worked perfectly and /vsr/log/messages showed it as a webcam.
[09:38] <ReinH> ArrenLex: one sec :)
[09:38] <nolimitsoya> the swappartition is not realy needed if you got enough ram
[09:39] <freakabcd> now this logitech cam i plug in it shows nothing in the messages.
[09:39] <drivera> How big should each partition be?
[09:39] <nolimitsoya> and id realy recommend a /home-partition
[09:39] <freakabcd> other than som generic usb high speed device message
[09:39] <nolimitsoya> about 5gb for /, and the rest for /home
[09:39] <THX-1138> XP
[09:39] <ArrenLex> drivera: it depends on how big your drive is, how much RAM you have, and how much space you think you'll need.
[09:39] <freakabcd> THX-1138, please let it be OS-X
[09:39] <atlef> THX-1138 : hehe
[09:39] <freakabcd> damn you
[09:39] <freakabcd> XP deserves better
[09:39] <freakabcd> :p
[09:40] <ReinH> that's not good...
[09:40] <drivera> I've got 80GB hdd, 512MB RAM, and I won't be using XP for much other than games now and then, I guess.
[09:40] <ReinH> drivera: you want a 1GB swap
[09:40] <freakabcd> its just that i'm sick and tired of the 'mac noobs'
[09:40] <ArrenLex> drivera: I suggest a 1-2GB swap, then.
[09:41] <drivera> Alright. And how big should the other two be?
[09:41] <ReinH> maybe 1.5 :)
[09:41] <nolimitsoya> drivera, use 25gb for xp the, 5gb for /, and 50gb for /home (49, if you want a swap, and the last gb for that swap)
[09:41] <crazy_penguin> Good night to all!
[09:41] <ReinH> what nolimitsoya said
[09:41] <nolimitsoya> 25gb should be more than enough for games
[09:41] <drivera> What is /, and what is /home?
[09:41] <ReinH> and you can access your ext3 partition from winXP
[09:41] <ArrenLex> drivera: at 80GB, you won't run into space problems. Give yourself however much you think you'll need.
[09:41] <nolimitsoya>  / is you "C:"
[09:42] <ArrenLex> drivera: /home is the directory where you store a user's files and data. / is like C:
[09:42] <nolimitsoya>  /home is your personal directory, that you will use for all files and configurationsfiles
[09:42] <ReinH> !pastebin
[09:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:43] <drivera> Ok. So how do I partition, and where do I make stuff ext3/NTFS?
[09:43] <codecaine> I get this when trying to access my shares on ubuntu
[09:43] <codecaine> session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[09:43] <codecaine> whys that?
[09:43] <nolimitsoya> drivera, the ntfspartitions will be made during the winxp installation
[09:44] <nolimitsoya> the ext3-partitions (though i suggest jfs) will be made using gparted during the ubuntuinstallation
[09:44] <willys_fueguino> Hi!! I have a question: If I install a fimware on /lib/firmware, how can I load it without rebooting??
[09:44] <nolimitsoya> just remember to select 'manualy edit partition table', during the installation
[09:44] <drivera> Are /, /home and swap all ext3?
[09:44] <bthornton> I'm trying to install a package in dapper, but it fails with "nxclient depends on libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2".... any ideas how I can go about finding "libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2"?
[09:44] <ReinH> This is not good: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26791/
[09:44] <freakabcd> atlef, did you find anything about the logitech quickcams ?
[09:44] <ReinH> ArrenLex: ^^
[09:45] <nolimitsoya> drivera,  swap is a special type of filesystem
[09:45] <ArrenLex> .....
[09:45] <drivera> Ah.
[09:45] <ReinH> ArrenLex: yeah... wtf?
[09:45] <nolimitsoya> and as i said, id recommend jfs instead of ext3
[09:45] <freakabcd> drivera, all of them are ext3 and swap is of type swap :)
[09:45] <ArrenLex> ReinH: try running that same command with sudo.
[09:45] <atlef> freakabcd : haven't looked
[09:45] <ReinH> ArrenLex: I did
[09:45] <stefg> willys_fueguino:it might work to  rmmod the corresponding module and modprobe it again
[09:45] <scott_> bthornton: I just installed that package yesterday for nxclient using dpkg -i ... googled for the debian package
[09:45] <elriah> Is there a faq somewhere how to get nvidia drivers installed in dapper?
[09:45] <ArrenLex> Then I would say something in your box is majorly screwed up o_O
[09:45] <ArrenLex> !nvidia
[09:45] <ReinH> $ sudo chmod -R 0666 mephisto-0.7
[09:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:45] <ArrenLex> No, ReinH, sudo ls -l
[09:46] <ReinH> ah
[09:46] <drivera> So my current course of action is, back up, format C:, install WinXP, boot from the ubuntu CD, install ubuntu, and it should have all the partitioning stuff there?
[09:46] <willys_fueguino> stefg: how?
[09:46] <dozyarmadillo> i just installed Ubuntu - works great, loving it - created a 2nd user, switched to it but X apps (e.g. xclock) don't work - I get a "Can't open display" error - any suggestions?
[09:46] <ReinH> ArrenLex: woops :/
[09:46] <bthornton> scott_: so did you have to manually download a *.deb file containing the missing dependency?  Or did it turn out to be a package already in the Ubuntu repos?
[09:46] <nolimitsoya> drivera, correct
[09:46] <freakabcd> ReinH, what directory is this?
[09:46] <stefg> elriah: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[09:46] <willys_fueguino> stefg: Its to have internet on dapper live, with a Thompson speedtouch 330 adsl modem
[09:46] <ReinH> ArrenLex: drw-rw-rw as expected
[09:46] <ArrenLex> dozyarmadillo: I assume you're trying to run them in X and not the terminal? And as normal user, not sudo?
[09:46] <freakabcd> ReinH, does it occur in every directoy path?
[09:46] <nolimitsoya> drivera,
[09:46] <freakabcd> you don;t have permissions, thats why
[09:46] <ReinH> freakabcd: yes
[09:47] <dozyarmadillo> arrenlex - you are correct
[09:47] <nolimitsoya> just make sure to not use the entire space for winxpinstallation
[09:47] <freakabcd> ReinH, every directory?
[09:47] <ArrenLex> ReinH: what would happen if you sudo chmod -R 777 that directory? Just to see?
[09:47] <drivera> How do I do that? Is there some sort of option in the WinXP install?
[09:47] <freakabcd> ReinH, just type mount, and show us the output (pastebin ofcourse)
[09:47] <scott_> bthornton: I manually downloaded the .deb package
[09:47] <stefg> willys_fueguino: will be hard, the device is prolly looking for its firmware at boottime... so you've got to reboot
[09:47] <nolimitsoya> make a 25gb partition with winxp:s partitioning and formattingtool during installation, and install to that. leave the rest of the space unconfigured
[09:47] <elriah> Thanks!
[09:48] <ReinH> ArrenLex: it changes the permissions as expected
[09:48] <ReinH> freakabcd: one sec
[09:48] <willys_fueguino> stefg: but its a live cd, Could it work??
[09:48] <stefg> willys_fueguino: no
[09:48] <freakabcd> ReinH, and after chaging this permissions like ArrenLex suggested still the sam output ?
[09:48] <willys_fueguino> mm.... Thats what I taught...
[09:48] <drivera> Alright, nolimitsoya, sounds easy enough. Thanks.
[09:48] <nolimitsoya> np
[09:49] <willys_fueguino> stefg: Then how to load the firmware without rebooting?
[09:49] <drivera> I'll try that and see what gives, when I'm done backing up.
[09:49] <ReinH> freakabcd: no, drwxrwxrwx
[09:49] <stefg> willys_fueguino: probably not possible
[09:49] <ReinH> but I can cd the directory now
[09:49] <dozyarmadillo> arrenlex - do i have to configure x for the new user or should it "just work"?
[09:49] <freakabcd> ReinH, and after a reboot, it reverts back to this thing again?
[09:50] <ArrenLex> dozyarmadillo: if you've managed to start X, then it's configured enough to start xclock.
[09:50] <ReinH> freakabcd: can you not cd directories that you don't have execute rights to?
[09:50] <dozyarmadillo> yeah - tis strange - when i switch back to my primary user all the x apps wrork fine
[09:50] <ReinH> I thought you only needed read rights
[09:50] <Xk2c> yes ReinH
[09:50] <freakabcd> nope
[09:50] <atlef> freakabcd : have a look at http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/devices.php
[09:50] <freakabcd> you need x to go into the dir
[09:50] <ReinH> freakabcd: ah...
[09:50] <ReinH> :/
[09:50] <Xk2c> without execution right no access to dirs ReinH
[09:50] <nolimitsoya> drivera, if you run into any problems or have any quiestions during the ubntu install, remember that you can get into irc from there. just ask for help if you need it :)
[09:51] <freakabcd> and r to read its contents
[09:51] <eztk> any experts here with regards to burning .iso's on to DVD?
[09:51] <ReinH> Then I'm sorry for wasting your time
[09:51] <codecaine> anybody any good with smb
[09:51] <ReinH> I'm still a linux noob :)
[09:51] <eztk> the built in burner on dapper keeps throwing up "there was an error writing to the disc: the recorder could not be accessed"
[09:51] <eztk> but it works fine - especially with tovid :s
[09:51] <freakabcd> atlef, loading the page now
[09:51] <HumanPrototype> eztk try k3b
[09:51] <eztk> ok. should be ok in Gnome?
[09:51] <drivera> Hm, question, nolimitsoya, after I finish installing ubuntu on the remaining partitions, is there some nice and pretty boot loader thing that lets me choose which OS to boot into?
[09:52] <eztk> humanprototype:
[09:52] <nolimitsoya> drivera, exactly :)
[09:52] <drivera> Marvelous.
[09:52] <YoG> hi, anyone here using lirc?
[09:52] <Tamed_G> hello all
[09:52] <HumanPrototype> eztk, if you want gnome only then bonfire of whatever its now called should work
[09:52] <eztk> lol humanprototype
[09:53] <eztk> thanks humanprototype
[09:53] <ReinH> I appreciate your help, folks
[09:53] <eztk> :)
[09:53] <Linuturk> I need a usenet reader for gnome
[09:53] <scott_> what's that package in the repos that makes the gnome panel prettier or more advanced? I swear I remember reading that somewhere
[09:53] <eztk> linuturk: i like pan
[09:53] <freakabcd> Linuturk, pan
[09:53] <eztk> anymore for pan? lol
[09:53] <freakabcd> haha
[09:53] <Linuturk> lol
[09:53] <Linuturk> thanks, I'll look into it
[09:53] <Linuturk> repos?
[09:53] <freakabcd> repos?
[09:53] <scott_> repository
[09:53] <freakabcd> must be in universe or multiverse
[09:53] <freakabcd> surely
[09:53] <Tamed_G> is there anyone who would be able to spare some time helping me with these nasty ATi drivers on an x64 system?
[09:53] <Linuturk> yes, it is in the repository?
[09:54] <freakabcd> theres no need to have a special repo for pan
[09:54] <Tampler> scott_   try gdesklet
[09:54] <LittleFireCracke> alsa is multithreaded right?
[09:54] <scott_> Tampler: thanks! I think that might be it
[09:54] <eztk> im gonna try and burn the vista RC1 disk and try to install it as a virtual machine in ubuntu
[09:54] <HumanPrototype> Tamed_G, try automatix
[09:54] <eztk> tip for all you new Ubuntu users - go and get EasyUbuntu !!
[09:54] <eztk> add codecs and other missing bits for you
[09:55] <freakabcd> Linuturk, ubotu says Version <IP_ADDRESS>-4ubuntu6 is in repos
[09:55] <YoG> hi, can someone help me setup lirc? please?
[09:55] <Linuturk> thanks everyone
[09:55] <Linuturk> :)
[09:55] <eztk> humanprototype - cant find bonfire in synaptic software manager
[09:55] <atlef> so far automatix is better
[09:55] <THX-1138> !easyubuntu
[09:55] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[09:55] <atlef> !automatix
[09:55] <Tamed_G> what is automatix - sorry my virgin voyage into linux
[09:55] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[09:55] <eztk> !bonfire
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bonfire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <Tamed_G> ahh
[09:55] <chuckyp> Anyone know how to control which modules start on boot?
[09:55] <eztk> !iso
[09:55] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[09:55] <Tamed_G> ok I'll give it a shot
[09:55] <freakabcd> Tamed_G, damn. you're virgin no more ;)
[09:56] <Tamed_G> lol
[09:56] <Tamed_G> yeah my head hurts already
[09:56] <freakabcd> haha
[09:56] <bushblows> what is error 18 on grub loader
[09:56] <HumanPrototype> chuckyp, try looking at /etc/modules
[09:56] <eztk> !beryl
[09:56] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[09:56] <eztk> beryl rocks :)
[09:57] <chuckyp> HumanPrototype: yeah its not in there.  I'm trying to stop the nvidia module from loading
[09:57] <freakabcd> eztk, i agree
[09:57] <freakabcd> it even works great on my crappy i810 on the laptop!
[09:57] <eztk> freakabcd: we agree on two things already :)
[09:57] <HumanPrototype> chuckyp, oh just go into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the Driver "nvidia" bit to Driver "nv" to use the open source nvidia driver
[09:57] <eztk> freakabcd: what do you use to burn .iso's on to dvd / cd ?
[09:57] <HumanPrototype> chuckyp, why dont you want nvidia?
[09:57] <freakabcd> k3b
[09:58] <eztk> freakabcd: does that work ok on gnome?
[09:58] <freakabcd> hell yeah. works great
[09:58] <freakabcd> i haven't seen a cd/dvd burning app as good as k3b on linux
[09:58] <HumanPrototype> eztk yes it should, if u dont like the theme then install the qt control center
[09:58] <daverab> Hey everyone, I'm having an issue with audio preview. I have vorbis-tools and mpg123 installed, but it isn't currently working.
[09:58] <eztk> cool, thanks freakabcd
[09:59] <freakabcd> the built-in one in nautilus or whatever is ok i guess. but is the more familiar interface to people coming from windows land
[10:02] <Tamed_G> hrmmm doesn't seem to be an option for ati drivers in automatix
[10:02] <HumanPrototype> eztk, http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bonfire/
[10:03] <bishopek> DOes ubuntu have an netinstall iso?
[10:03] <daverab> anyone have an idea what would cause issues with audio preview?
[10:03] <HumanPrototype> eztk, thats the bonfire/brasero website
[10:03] <HumanPrototype> eztk, but it looks like its down so go for kde instead
[10:03] <bushblows> bishopek, the link is on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot
[10:03] <freakabcd> HumanPrototype, is hat the built-in burner thing in nautilus ?
[10:03] <bishopek> bushblows: Thank You
[10:03] <bishopek> :-)
[10:04] <bushblows> np
[10:04] <freakabcd> eztk, apt-get install k3b
[10:04] <atlef> Tamed_G : automatix bleeder installs ati
[10:04] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd, no - its a burning program that is designed for gnome as a k3b replacement
[10:04] <SonicvanaJr> !ati
[10:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:04] <Tamed_G> oh ok thanks
[10:05] <Tamed_G> yeah I've been through that wiki about 5 times but still getting an error
[10:05] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd + eztk, its also on sourceforge if you are interested http://sourceforge.net/projects/bonfire/
[10:05] <freakabcd> HumanPrototype, sourceforget.net/projects/bonfire
[10:06] <bishopek> bushblows: But that's not it. I'm looking for a netinstall .iso - just something smaller than ~670MB that I could download, burn, and start the installation process from
[10:06] <freakabcd> bah
[10:06] <freakabcd> its hosted on sf.net
[10:06] <freakabcd> only the home page is n that .fr domain
[10:06] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd, whats wrong with sf.net?
[10:06] <Tamed_G> hrm bleeder no good for amd64
[10:06] <freakabcd> nothing wrong with sf.net
[10:06] <daverab> I don't even have the musical note icon on hover....
[10:07] <freakabcd> i meant its much nicer if the homepage is hosted on sf as well
[10:07] <freakabcd> cos then you don't have this kind of thing happening: i.e home page not available but everything else is: screenshots, downloads, cvs, etc.
[10:08] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd, ah ok, well i guess we cant have everything (otherwise linux would be the os of choice and would have great gaing support)
[10:08] <Karol84PL> Hello, does anyone know any application for reading .lit (Microsoft Reader Ebooks) files on Linux?
[10:08] <freakabcd> microsoft Reader ?
[10:08] <freakabcd> what the heck is that?
[10:08] <davvs> is there any way to move the cursor position from the commandline?
[10:08] <bishopek> bushblows: Any ideas?
[10:08] <freakabcd> some kind of anti-acrobat reader for anti-pdf ?
[10:08] <THX-1138> Books with DRM - interesting
[10:09] <whyso> hi, im trying to install, but when i get the initial install menu i hit install or start ubuntu and it just says "loading" but it doesnt read from the CD, whats the problem? thanks
[10:09] <HumanPrototype> davvs, use the arrow keys
[10:09] <davvs> HumanPrototype, how?
[10:09] <davvs> HumanPrototype, i mean move the mousecursor :P
[10:09] <freakabcd> hah mouse cursor
[10:09] <HumanPrototype> davvs, use the mouse?
[10:10] <freakabcd> on a console or inside the X graphical inerface?
[10:10] <HumanPrototype> davvs why do you need to move it?
[10:10] <freakabcd> HumanPrototype, err.. ever heard of accessibility?
[10:10] <Karol84PL> freakabcd: http://www.microsoft.com/reader/ - look at this
[10:10] <whyso> plz a lil help :( do i have a bad cd?
[10:10] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd, i was asking why he wanted to type commands to move the mouse cursor
[10:10] <freakabcd> type commands?
[10:10] <davvs> HumanPrototype,  i need to move it to another dispaly which is 5000 pixels to the right, i cant move it to that display just by moving the mouse, i need to send it to some coodrinates
[10:11] <freakabcd> he never said 'what commands to use to move the cursor', did he?
[10:11] <davvs> yes freakabcd i need to be able to move the mousecursor i mean
[10:12] <THX-1138> davvs - use xev to find coordinates - not sure how to set up your program
[10:12] <freakabcd> and why couldn;t you move the mouse?
[10:12] <RawSushi> What would be the best thing to start out with for Linux development?
[10:12] <codecaine> thers a usb hd thats not letting me do smb share when I take it off I can what could cause this problem its the only portable hd thats doing it
[10:12] <VViki> im running the live CD with 512MB RAM, will I be able to download ubuntu ISO?
[10:12] <RawSushi> for X
[10:12] <whyso>  hi, im trying to install, but when i get the initial install menu i hit install or start ubuntu and it just says "loading" but it doesnt read from the CD, whats the problem? thanks
[10:12] <clearzen> does anyone know how I would go about routing all local traffic on my network through a specific interface?
[10:12] <davvs> i have two monitors and i want to move it to the other one, but it is "too far away" to just drag it there
[10:13] <XiXaQ> clearzen, are you talking about Network Address Translation, NAT?
[10:13] <freakabcd> davvs, and what will you do once your mouse cursor is over this window on the 'unconnected' monitor ?
[10:13] <HumanPrototype> davvs, i dont know any cursor commands but couldnt you just boost the mouse speed loads and move it normally?
[10:13] <RawSushi> I found Lazarus and I like that alright, but is there anything better, less buggy, easier?
[10:13] <eztk> thanks humanprototype
[10:13] <davvs> HumanPrototype, yea i guess that would work but... :P
[10:14] <freakabcd> HumanPrototype, yeah.. 5000 pixels is nothing. its not going to take him minutes
[10:14] <Aphex_Twin> what's the difference between generational and non-generational garbage collection?
[10:14] <davvs> freakabcd, i want to click on some menu. im playing a dvd movie on the other monitor
[10:14] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd, i can move over 1000 in under a second so i make that about 5 seconds max
[10:14] <dmb> is there a way i can reinstall all packages that are in ubuntu-base?
[10:14] <clearzen>  XiXaQ: no, I have NAT enabled and I am routing all outside traffic through one interface. However the internal netwok uses it as well and I don't want it to.
[10:15] <freakabcd> davvs, huh? you're playing a dvd movie ononnected on an unconnected monitor?
[10:15] <atlef> whyso : have you checked the cd for errors
[10:15] <THX-1138> synaptic can generate a package donload script for you.
[10:15] <freakabcd> who is watching? your friendly ghost ?
[10:15] <whyso> same thing : loading... forever
[10:15] <blu3fir3> hey someone can tell me if DivX 5 codec is comewhere for ubuntu 6.06 ? only got divx 4
[10:15] <HumanPrototype> dmb remove and reinstall it?
[10:15] <LittleFireCracke> freakabcd, I found a possible solutions to my problem http://audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=USB_mic_on_Linux
[10:15] <atlef> whyso : then it's most likely a bad burn
[10:16] <dmb> HumanPrototype: well, i guess that would work
[10:16] <atlef> whyso : where did you downloadP?
[10:16] <davvs> freakabcd, yes, i dont want to accedently move the cursor to the monitor so that the menus will pop up. the other display is a tv:-)
[10:16] <HumanPrototype> dmb, what have you uninstalled?
[10:16] <whyso> from the official site
[10:16] <dmb> HumanPrototype: no, i want reinstall every package thats in ubuntu-base metapackage
[10:16] <whyso> just reburn it?
[10:16] <freakabcd> davvs, wait. its a tv. so you can 'see' where the heck the cursor is, right?
[10:16] <atlef> whyso : torrent or ?
[10:16] <HumanPrototype> dmb to get them to reconfigure?
[10:17] <freakabcd> why not move the mouse while watching the tv ?
[10:17] <whyso> ubuntu.com/download
[10:17] <dmb> HumanPrototype: im having some bigtime problems with problems on this box right now
[10:17] <freakabcd> i don;t understand what you're trying to do.
[10:17] <fdoving> dmb: apt-cache depends ubuntu-standard|grep Depends|sed s/Depends://g|xargs apt-get -s install --reinstall
[10:17] <freakabcd> and why will the 'menus' popup as soon as the mouse is over the app?
[10:17] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd, he wants to restrict his mouse to the normal monitor so he doesnt slip on to the tv when he moves to the edge of the screen
[10:17] <freakabcd> is this some weird app where the menu shows up as soon as there is mouse move-ment?
[10:17] <fdoving> dmb: run that in a root-shell, and remove the -s after apt-get when you really want to do it. '-s' is for simulate.
[10:17] <dmb> oh
[10:17] <freakabcd> HumanPrototype, no he doesn't
[10:18] <atlef> whyso : the iso file could be corrupted, or the media you burn to is bad
[10:18] <freakabcd> he wants to move it to the tv so he can click something
[10:18] <dmb> HumanPrototype: anyway, these are the problems im having: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=277345
[10:18] <whyso> ah ok thanks, ill try a diff burn program
[10:18] <freakabcd> but while doing so he wants to position the cursor absolutely on some position on the tv without any movement inbetween
[10:18] <davvs> freakabcd, if i have two monitors side-by-side, when im watching a movie on one of them on fullscreen and then accedently moves the mouse to it some menus will pop up ruining the fullscreen
[10:18] <whyso> is the default windows burner ok?
[10:18] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd, so the console command lets him use the mouse on the tv when he needs to change video or summat
[10:19] <freakabcd> davvs, what lame ass applition do you use for playing the movie?
[10:19] <davvs> yes in a dvd movie, there's menus in the begninning
[10:19] <Jay2> I'm new to Ubuntu, so far so good but I'm at a lose to network it to my windows computer
[10:19] <davvs> freakabcd, totem, mplayer, they all shows the menu in the beginning to choose from subs/language/chapters and such
[10:19] <Jay2> any suggestions
[10:20] <HumanPrototype> davvs,  could you get it set so u could only trave l through a corner rather than a side
[10:20] <freakabcd> davvs, you using the dvd-menu patch for mplayer?
[10:20] <dmb> fdoving: sorry, but what would i do to have it do that to ubuntu-desktop?
[10:20] <fdoving> dmb: can you open a terminal and check your /etc/hosts file? is your hostname listed there?
[10:20] <freakabcd> davvs, even so why the heck would mplayer show some pop-up when you move the mouse over the video?
[10:20] <fdoving> dmb: change 'ubuntu-standard' to 'ubuntu-desktop'
[10:20] <freakabcd> iknow for certain that is not the case
[10:20] <atlef> whyso : cdburnerxp, nero ,alcohol120. don't think default windows program burns iso files
[10:20] <dmb> fdoving: yep, <IP_ADDRESS> localhost localhost.localdomain laptux
[10:21] <HumanPrototype> Jay2, what do you want to do on the win xp machine? file sharing, print sharing or just internet connection sharing?
[10:21] <fdoving> dmb: laptux is the name of your machine?
[10:21] <dmb> fdoving: yes
[10:21] <fdoving> dmb: 'cat /etc/hostname' what does it say?
[10:21] <Jay2> file sharing and print sharing\
[10:21] <dmb> laptux
[10:21] <kane77> hi, is there some app or something to show programs in various desktops?
[10:21] <fdoving> dmb: ok, good, what does 'hostname' say?
[10:21] <almimoni> hi, after i connect to msn, gaim close him self, how can i fix it?
[10:21] <freakabcd> davvs, i will believe that 'mplayer shows some popup crap the moment it see the mouse cursor moving over he video' only if you post that statement to #mplayer and they agree\
[10:22] <dmb> laptux
[10:22] <dmb> fdoving: says the same for both
[10:22] <ssdd534> hi... ive recently tried to install ubuntu back onto my server... but near the end of the installation i get an error "Installer Crashed" I retryed and got the same thing... what may be the cause of this?
[10:22] <fdoving> dmb: ok, good, now check that the 'lo' network interface is up. with 'ifconfig' is there a section for 'lo' ?
[10:22] <whyso> k used acohol 120 wish me luck :)
[10:22] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd, open totem, set it to full screen, then move the mouse and watch that bar at the bottom appear
[10:22] <freakabcd> HumanPrototype, we are speaking of mplayer
[10:23] <atlef> whyso : good luck
[10:23] <freakabcd> not some crappy player like totem
[10:23] <whyso> ty :)
[10:23] <almimoni> hi, after i connect to msn, gaim close him self, how can i fix it?
[10:23] <dmb> fdoving: there is not
[10:23] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd, does that do the same?
[10:23] <davvs> HumanPrototype, yes i can, but if i do, i might accedently go into that corner :P
[10:23] <HumanPrototype> freakabcd, i cant test that one
[10:23] <freakabcd> HumanPrototype, mplayer has no menus
[10:23] <Weber> How do I change permissions on a file in terminal?
[10:23] <fdoving> dmb: ah, ok. try to run 'sudo ifup lo'
[10:23] <freakabcd> and if you want to get the osd menu, you have to bind some key to it
[10:23] <cmiller> I ejected my usb hard drive and now its not showing up when i plug it in? How do I fix this?
[10:23] <freakabcd> and theres no dvd-menus at present
[10:23] <Jay2> human, I have internet on both machines - cable connection to a router
[10:24] <freakabcd> theres a patch for that though. its still not in svn though cos some work needs to be done in refactoring
[10:24] <finalbeta> !webcam
[10:24] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:24] <dmb> fdoving: /etc/network/interfaces:86: too few parameters for iface line
[10:24] <dmb> ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces"
[10:24] <fdoving> dmb: ah.. explains alot.
[10:24] <Refrozen> So, I'm working on an update to the Edgy beta, because I'm getting impatient.
[10:24] <freakabcd> finalbeta, should i thank you?
[10:24] <Refrozen> Any major issues I'm likely to run in to when I reboot here?
[10:24] <fdoving> dmb: 'sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces'
[10:24] <freakabcd> i'm not sure. if that page talks about logitech quickcam, i surely will :)
[10:25] <finalbeta> freakabcd, You may, but I have no idea why? :p
[10:25] <finalbeta> ah,
[10:25] <dmb> fdoving: ok, want me to pastebin it?
[10:25] <freakabcd> cos i've been searching for many hours how the heck to get my logitech quickcam working
[10:25] <finalbeta> it does.
[10:25] <fdoving> dmb: yes please.
[10:25] <davvs> freakabcd, i didn't manage to start the dvd in mplayer
[10:25] <ssdd534> What would cause the installer to crash during an install? (2 times this happened)
[10:25] <finalbeta> But my trust 300 spacecam is unsupported :/
[10:25] <freakabcd> davvs, mplayer dvd://
[10:25] <davvs> freakabcd, then what?
[10:25] <ricky> hey everyone
[10:25] <freakabcd> what do you mean?
[10:26] <HumanPrototype> davvs, could you run a seperate x server on it then use mplayer and pipe commands to it by running it from a term on your main desktop
[10:26] <davvs> freakabcd, will that command start it?
[10:26] <Hazuki> hai people
[10:26] <freakabcd> if you use mplayer dvd:// it will start with the first chapter and continue untill there are no more chapters
[10:26] <freakabcd> it will start playing the dvd
[10:26] <dmb> fdoving: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26801/
[10:26] <davvs> HumanPrototype, how do i pipe commands between mplayer(s)?
[10:26] <SAM_theman> brb
[10:26] <HumanPrototype> davvs, i dont think you would need to
[10:26] <freakabcd> davvs, pipe commands between mplayers?
[10:27] <freakabcd> you mean an mplayer instance and some console or app ?
[10:27] <SurfnKid> is there a usb-ide driver for linux that i can use when connecting a usb-ide cable ?
[10:27] <davvs> freakabcd, ok, thanks. but on this particular movie, it said something about encryption and patent and the picture was all messed up
[10:27] <freakabcd> davvs, this discussion is really for #mplayer and use us mplayer in slave mode for your information
[10:27] <freakabcd> davvs, yes. again a topic for #mplayer.
[10:27] <davvs> ah ok- yes i guess mplayer is better than totem
[10:27] <davvs> okok freakabcd
[10:28] <freakabcd> my god, you just discovered that :)
[10:28] <davvs> but hey, totem is more simple
[10:28] <HumanPrototype> davvs, im just testing something but i think you can run mplayer from a console on a second x server (on the second tv) and control it in that term
[10:28] <fdoving> dmb: try to add on separate lines, just below 'iface lo inet loopback', 'address <IP_ADDRESS>' \n 'netmask <IP_ADDRESS>' where \n is next line.
[10:28] <freakabcd> man, i used to use mplayer back in the old days when the project started. it was fun
[10:28] <freakabcd> HumanPrototype, davvs ofcourse you can do that
[10:29] <freakabcd> thats easy as pie: mplayer dvd:// -xineramascreen 1
[10:29] <HumanPrototype> davvs, run mplayer in the term and it tells you what it will do
[10:29] <freakabcd> then use the console for forward back, etc.
[10:29] <davvs> aha
[10:29] <davvs> but will i need to boot up 2 xservers?
[10:29] <freakabcd> if its using xinerama ofcrouse. otherwise just use -screen
[10:29] <davvs> or can i just use one with 2 displays?
[10:30] <freakabcd> davvs, how do you have your X configured at the moment?
[10:30] <cmiller> I ejected my usb hard drive and now its not showing up when i plug it in? How do I fix this?
[10:30] <davvs> i have one xserver with 2 dispalys and they are far away from each others
[10:30] <davvs> and the mouse can never go to the tv-display
[10:30] <freakabcd> ok,  so you have 2 screens ?
[10:30] <davvs> yes
[10:31] <davvs> 0.1 and 0.2
[10:31] <freakabcd> screen as in 'Screen in terms of xorg.conf'
[10:31] <VViki> do you know an linux ISO that is under 400mb????????????
[10:31] <dmb> fdoving: this is the new file:
[10:31] <dmb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26802/
[10:31] <Kyral> VViki: Damn Small Linux
[10:31] <HumanPrototype> VViki, google for damn small linux
[10:31] <ruzgar> if there is a ubuntu developer in channel pls look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270826&highlight=turkish+f
[10:31] <davvs> yes there's 2 of them freakabcd
[10:31] <HumanPrototype> VViki, or some of the net install cds like the one for debian
[10:32] <fdoving> dmb: correct. now save and exit nano. and paste the output of 'stat -c %a /etc/network/interfaces'
[10:33] <rmd_> is there anything in the standard Ubuntu repositories that will lock the terminal after a certain amount of time for a certain amount of time, thereby forcing a break from typing?
[10:33] <HumanPrototype> rmd_ are you using gnome?
[10:33] <freakabcd> davvs, oh man. its so o easy
[10:33] <rmd_> i am using gnome, yes.
[10:33] <dmb> fdoving: 644 was the output
[10:34] <HumanPrototype> rmd_, then just use keyboard in preferences under system
[10:34] <freakabcd> davvs, mplayer dvd:// -fs -screen :0.2
[10:34] <fdoving> dmb: ok, that's good. now try 'sudo ifup lo' again.
[10:34] <rmd_> wow.
[10:34] <rmd_> i did not know that was there.
[10:34] <rmd_> thank you very much.
[10:34] <dmb> /etc/network/interfaces:88: too few parameters for iface line
[10:34] <dmb> ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces"
[10:34] <dmb> still
[10:34] <davvs> yes it works now, thanks freakabcd
[10:34] <rmd_> does the clock for that run while there is no typing?
[10:34] <freakabcd> davvs, and you can control everything from that term which started mplayer
[10:35] <reccan> Will Edgy have Subversion 1.4?
[10:35] <davvs> do you think there's a way to control it from a gui?
[10:35] <freakabcd> reccan, question for #ubuntu+1
[10:35] <reccan> ah, ok
[10:35] <freakabcd> davvs, what gui?
[10:35] <freakabcd> theres gmplayer and theres a kmplayer. but i dunno if they are any good
[10:35] <VViki> is DSL updateable like ubuntu? click update and your are set?
[10:35] <SurfnKid> um
[10:35] <SurfnKid> guys how do i mount a usb disk?
[10:35] <freakabcd> gmplayer comes along with the mplayer source.
[10:36] <HumanPrototype> VViki, why do you need such a small iso?
[10:36] <freakabcd> so it might be already installed
[10:36] <davvs> any gui, we're many ppl sharing the computer and some of us doesnt like using terminals and remembering commands
[10:36] <freakabcd> kmplaye is a seperate project
[10:36] <SurfnKid> it shows in my usb list  /proc/dev/usb/*
[10:36] <Kyral> VViki: DSL is a very lightweight distro designed to work with low power machines
[10:36] <VViki> because i need whatever linux can be burned in a CD and downloaded ver very fast
[10:36] <freakabcd> gmplayer should be ok i think (still has problems though)
[10:36] <bran> is there a PPC specific Ubuntu channel?
[10:36] <Kyral> you sacrafice  some user friendlyness for this
[10:36] <Centaur5> Does anyone know if gaim will let you add an aol user on your yahoo account since they joined forces?
[10:37] <HumanPrototype> VViki, a live cd or installable distro?
[10:37] <davvs> freakabcd,  so, its possible to start the contol gui on one display and the movie window on another?
[10:37] <Kyral> (Granted it installs as Debian so..)
[10:37] <antigroove> is there a better irc client than xchat?
[10:37] <freakabcd> thats what i'm not sure of
[10:37] <VViki> I have the bandwdith to download ISOs, but I cant download any. I need a download manager capable of multiple parts download, otherwise the download goes at 6kbs
[10:37] <bran> antigroove: IRSSI
[10:37] <antigroove> lol
[10:37] <freakabcd> actually gmplayer is built that way.
[10:37] <HumanPrototype> antigroove, some people like the terminal chat clients
[10:37] <Kyral> Konversation :P
[10:37] <freakabcd> cos the control stuff and the video window are 2 windows
[10:37] <freakabcd> so i guess it could work.
[10:37] <antigroove> i'll check those two out.  thanks much.
[10:37] <HumanPrototype> VViki, kget?
[10:38] <Kyral> (Granted thats on my desktop, on my laptop its Irssi FTW)
[10:38] <VViki> with 512MB ppl said that I wont be able to download any ISO while running a live distro
[10:38] <Kyral> Irssi + Screen == Awesomeness
[10:38] <bran> Kyral: exactly
[10:38] <freakabcd> davvs, depends on the skin i think. and probably more on the gmplayer architecturereally
[10:38] <fdoving> dmb: strange. very strange. try 'sudo ifconfig lo <IP_ADDRESS>'
[10:38] <VViki> kget?
[10:38] <Kyral> VViki: 512 MB of what?
[10:38] <antigroove> kyral: what do you mean screen?
[10:38] <VViki> ram
[10:38] <Kyral> VViki: They are talking out of their asses
[10:38] <freakabcd> davvs, cos sometimes these crappy grouped windows tend to move together between screens(etc.)
[10:38] <dmb> fdoving: that worked
[10:39] <rmd_> is there no HTML editor in the standard Ubuntu repositories?
[10:39] <freakabcd> for example xchat and its d/l dialog
[10:39] <Kyral> (This is what swap partitions are for)
[10:39] <HumanPrototype> VViki, kget is a download manager for kde
[10:39] <davvs> ok... but cant it be done some way with pipes?
[10:39] <jrib> rmd_: gedit?
[10:39] <truiu> rmd_:  try bluefish
[10:39] <freakabcd> davvs, what pipes?
[10:39] <Kyral> rmd_: Vim?
[10:39] <davvs> you know "|"
[10:39] <fdoving> dmb: is your computer behaving correctly now?
[10:39] <dmb> fdoving: whats weird is it doesn't seem to start any of my other interfaces either
[10:39] <zool2005> rmd_: gedit
[10:39] <rmd_> i didn't find bluefish in a search
[10:39] <dmb> i have to start them manuelly
[10:39] <rmd_> neither did it find NVU
[10:39] <freakabcd> davvs, i meant what do you mean by pipesfor gui
[10:39] <davvs> like ls -l | grep .txt
[10:39] <dmb> fdoving: testing right now
[10:39] <jrib> rmd_: have you enabled universe?
[10:39] <timruff> voila ca recomance
[10:40] <jrib> !fr
[10:40] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:40] <Kyral> !info bluefish
[10:40] <ubotu> bluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.4-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1483 kB, installed size 6488 kB
[10:40] <rmd_> no.  i was asking about standard repositories.
[10:40] <rmd_> !info nvu
[10:40] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[10:40] <Kyral> Universe is standard...
[10:40] <freakabcd> davvs, there is an mplayer 'slave' mode. which is very useful to control the mplayer instance from an external app.
[10:40] <timruff> c'ets bizard mon ordi tlcharge quelque chose  3170 ko/s
[10:40] <davvs> i dont know really, but there should be some program that just sends out info for mplayer to take in via a pipe
[10:40] <Kyral> Main is just like is what is needed on the Install CD
[10:40] <HumanPrototype> rmd_, add universe and multiverse then use bluefish - its great for webdesign
[10:40] <davvs> aha
[10:40] <jrib> timruff: #ubuntu-fr for french please
[10:40] <freakabcd> but the thing is i don;t think gmplayer uses slave mode mplayer. its a bi more integrated
[10:40] <VVIki> damn
[10:40] <VVIki> xwindow crashed
[10:40] <rmd_> Kyral: Universe is not standard.
[10:40] <VVIki> it logged me off and then logged me in
[10:41] <freakabcd> davvs, uh. i thought you wanted a gui
[10:41] <davvs> so how can slave mode be used then?
[10:41] <timruff> escuse me
[10:41] <rmd_> It does not come selected after a fresh install.
[10:41] <Kyral> rmd_: Tell that to the MOTUs :P
[10:41] <jrib> depends on your definition of "standard"
[10:41] <VVIki> kget?
[10:41] <HumanPrototype> rmd_, if you want wysiwyg then nvu is probably your best bet
[10:41] <VVIki> is kget able to split multi part downloads?
[10:41] <whyso> hi, it says loading forever when i do anything past the origional CD menu
[10:41] <davvs> yea, i did. but why cant gui apps be used in pipes?
[10:41] <rmd_> "Standard" meaning selected after a fresh install without having to edit the repositories on your own.
[10:41] <dmb> fdoving: yep, everything works now, but i still have to figure out the story with the interfaces file
[10:41] <whyso> any ideas to help?
[10:41] <Kyral> davvs: because they don't use STDIN and STDOUT
[10:41] <dmb> fdoving: can you paste yours?
[10:42] <davvs> sure the do Kyral for debug messages and such
[10:42] <profoX`> can you see what device my dvdrom device is in the live cd ? can i just see that in fstab ?
[10:42] <Kyral> davvs: what are you trying to do anyway
[10:42] <HumanPrototype> rmd_, whats wrong with universe?
[10:42] <freakabcd> davvs, say you write your program in C: you open a child process 'mplayer -slave' then you can send commands to this mplayer procvess from your program
[10:42] <fdoving> dmb: yours looks just fine, i think it might be something else. can you paste the output of 'stat -c %a /etc/' and 'stat -c %a /etc/network/' ?
[10:42] <freakabcd> davvs, your idea of pipes is wrong
[10:42] <Kyral> rmd_: Universe is very much standard
[10:42] <freakabcd> for gui apps they need to use sockets or some other form of ipc
[10:43] <davvs> hmm.. yes maybe :P im new to the idea
[10:43] <rmd_> HumanPrototype, Kyral: I'm sorry you think I am implying that something is "wrong" with the Universe repository.
[10:43] <dmb>  /etc is 755
[10:43] <davvs> like semaphores
[10:43] <Kyral> rmd_: No, I just think your notion of what Universe is is skewed :P
[10:43] <dmb> same with /etc/network
[10:43] <bran> this channel is too big for ease-of-use sakes lol
[10:43] <HumanPrototype> rmd_, no, im just wondering why you cant use it
[10:43] <almimoni> hi, after i connect to msn, gaim close him self, how do i fix it?
[10:43] <Kyral> rmd_: Main is the stuff like mission critical to the system
[10:43] <rmd_> Kyral: Universe is not standard in that it is not searched automatically.  A user has to select it manually in order to search it.
[10:43] <freakabcd> davvs, semaphores are _not_ a communication medium.
[10:43] <freakabcd> they are a synchronisation tool
[10:43] <VVIki> help me? Ive mounted my HD and placed a mouting point folder on my desktop, but that folder is read only, what do I do?
[10:43] <fdoving> dmb: really strange. can you hold on for 3 mins? I have to make some food for my kid.
[10:44] <Kyral> rmd_: You can find on any installed CD (Correct me if I am wrong) the entire Main repo
[10:44] <HumanPrototype> VVIki, is that a windows partition?
[10:44] <davvs> ok, but they can be used with shared memory
[10:44] <freakabcd> fdoving, can i have some too? i;m hungry :)
[10:44] <VVIki> ext3 partition
[10:44] <rmd_> Kyral: which is why you keep saying ignorant things.  You have no idea what my notion of "Universe" is.  You know only that I have stated the obvious, that it is not selected after a fresh install, that the user must tell Synaptic to search it.
[10:44] <Kyral> Universe is WAAY too big to fit on the Install CD
[10:44] <whyso> could anyone help me?
[10:44] <dmb> fdoving: sure
[10:44] <fdoving> freakabcd: sure, just come over :)
[10:44] <Kyral> rmd_: I apologize then
[10:44] <Kyral> I'm very opinionated :P
[10:44] <freakabcd> but you're probably thousands of miles away
[10:44] <freakabcd> :(
[10:45] <remu> im in need of some dire help, i am a new linux user, and i tried to install xgl, as well as ntfs-3g, to no luck, ive tried to install this stuff using a few different turoials, but i seem to keep having problems, any help would be greatly appreciated
[10:45] <davvs> hehe.. well well i must go to the tv, ive missed half the film by now
[10:45] <HumanPrototype> VVIki, sudo chmod a+rwx -R /path/to/mountpoint
[10:45] <davvs> cye, cheers
[10:45] <dmb> fdoving: im going to do reboot for a sec, non-related to this problem
[10:45] <rmd_> No apology needed.  I'm just saying it is not standard because it isn't, widely used and useful as it is.
[10:45] <freakabcd> davvs, just rewind
[10:45] <freakabcd> keep pressing downarrow key
[10:45] <remu> can someone help out?
[10:45] <davvs> i dont think the ppl watching the movie will agree :P
[10:45] <freakabcd> it will seek to the the start
[10:45] <freakabcd> haha
[10:45] <freakabcd> ok
[10:45] <davvs> thanks anyway bye
[10:45] <freakabcd> no worries
[10:45] <VVIki> HumanPrototype, im downloading kget
[10:46] <freakabcd> davvs, if you have any more queries about mplayer. best to ask in #mplayer
[10:46] <pingswept> remu: I think you'll have more luck if you ask a more specific question.
[10:46] <HumanPrototype> VVIki, that should let u download faster i hope
[10:46] <SurfnKid> what tha hell
[10:47] <VVIki> does it support multiple sources?
[10:47] <freakabcd> SurfnKid, what hell are we talking about?
[10:47] <SurfnKid> when i invoke /proc/dev/usb/*  the devices come up, and then i check lsusb and the device shows up. but after 3 seconds,  lsusb doesnt show the device anymore
[10:47] <Jay2> I'm new to Ubuntu, so far so good but I'm lost when I try to network my Ubuntu computer to my windows computer. Both computers are currently connected to cable via a router. I wish to be able to work on openoffice files and use a single printer. Can anyone tell me how to set this up
[10:47] <gre1> how do i get a linksys WMP54g adaptor to work on ubuntu?
[10:48] <HumanPrototype> Jay2, to share files you need to use samba
[10:48] <SurfnKid> i have to invoke /proc/dev/usb/* once again for lsusb to show it, what thaaa
[10:48] <freakabcd> SurfnKid, and /var/log/messages shows that the devices were disconnected or some such after this3 second period?
[10:48] <HumanPrototype> J2 to share a printer you can use cups
[10:48] <SurfnKid> let me check
[10:48] <erUSUL> !samba > Jay2
[10:48] <Zaggynl> Filemon > lsof
[10:48] <erUSUL> !cups > Jay2
[10:48] <freakabcd> uh, whats with all the redirection? :)
[10:48] <DigitalNinja> I'm running samba ( binary version ) and need to switch to the source version. How do I do this?
[10:48] <gre1> how do i get a linksys WMP54g adaptor to work on ubuntu?
[10:49] <HumanPrototype> gre1, try looking at the guide in the wiki
[10:49] <SurfnKid> freakabcd, ohh a bunch of stuff came up.  How can i read /var/log/messages real time
[10:49] <Aileran> Beer > Aileran
[10:49] <freakabcd> SurfnKid, tail -f /var/log/messages
[10:49] <Zaggynl> whoa
[10:50] <Samuli^> DigitalNinja, I don't understand why you need to, but remove samba and then install new via apt-get source something.
[10:50] <HumanPrototype> gre1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[10:50] <reztho> hi
[10:50] <Zaggynl> 'strace lsof -r 5' == filemon
[10:51] <SurfnKid> freakabcd, ok cool, so far it shows me the device comes up but its offlined not ready after error recovery
[10:51] <DigitalNinja> Samuli^: I need to compile a module for samba. That's why I need to do this. Now, once I install the source package do I need to compile or build it?
[10:51] <ezsquirt> could i make aptitude say which package has (auto)installed XYZ package ?
[10:51] <exarkun> Loading powernow-k8 fails and adds these lines to `dmesg' output:
[10:51] <remu> how do i add the multiverse and universe repositories? as well as any aditional repositories
[10:51] <exarkun> [19051610.664000]  powernow_k8: disagrees about version of symbol cpu_data
[10:51] <exarkun> [19051610.664000]  powernow_k8: Unknown symbol cpu_data
[10:51] <Jay2> many thanks HumanPrototype and erUSUL
[10:51] <exarkun> Where's the cpu_data symbol?
[10:52] <freakabcd> SurfnKid, unfortunately i cannot help you further. i'm almost dying of hunger and sleep :(
[10:52] <SurfnKid> well get to sleep, and take some munchies with ya
[10:52] <HumanPrototype> remu, take a look at http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:52] <SurfnKid> =]
[10:52] <SurfnKid> brb, switchin to winblowz
[10:52] <freakabcd> yeah, i think i'll go offline now
[10:52] <freakabcd> goodmirning all
[10:52] <SurfnKid> thx for the help
[10:52] <atlef> or night
[10:53] <freakabcd> but its morning here ;)
[10:53] <atlef> hehe
[10:53] <freakabcd> anyway, i'm out
[10:53] <hackel_> Anyone know how I can tell dhclient to force release/renew of an IP address?  Often with my wireless connection, I discover I've lost my IP and end up having to ifdown/up'ing to get it back.
[10:53] <MAPD> http://krunch.servebeer.com/~krunch/vrac/pics/ubuntu-logo.jpg -> OWNS
[10:53] <CharonX> Can anyone think of a simple solution for this ? I have a friend with a .zip file that is a few gig's in size on a windows computer. They are not very strong with computers. Can anyone think of something that would make it easy for them to send me the file and continue sending the file later if it dissconnects ? Instead of starting over ? I would set it up as a bittorrent but there is no way I can explain that to them.  Any ideas ?
[10:54] <hackel_> CharonX:  um...use the File-Transfer-Protocol perhaps?
[10:54] <gansinho> does anyone knows something about kiba dock and could help me?
[10:54] <CharonX> hackel_, good luck even explaining that to them
[10:54] <jordan> gansinho, I do / can.
[10:55] <CharonX> I have that setup but, once it dissconnects they are just starting over
[10:55] <hackel_> CharonX:  Uploading a file via FTP is very easy.  IE even has a built-in FTP client if they don't want to download FileZilla.
[10:55] <freakabcd> hackel_, reading the man page doesn;t help?
[10:55] <VVIki> HumanPrototype, I executed chmod, but the folder icon is still "locked"
[10:55] <{ergo}Proxy> hello there
[10:55] <CharonX> hackel_, how can I get them to resume the file after the connection goes down ?
[10:55] <freakabcd> hackel_, dhclient -r ;: The  -r  flag explicitly releases the current lease, and once the leasehas been released, the client exits.
[10:55] <hackel_> freakabcd:  not much, since it seemed to indicate using "omshell" which I haven't figured out yet.
[10:55] <jordan> gansinho, Do you already have beryl installed?
[10:55] <gansinho> jordan: I done the make/make install but now when I execute "kiba-dock" nothing happens ... =/
[10:55] <DigitalNinja> When I install a source package do I need to compile it?
[10:55] <gansinho> jordan:  yes beryl is perfect
[10:56] <hackel_> CharonX:  They would have to use a real FTP client.  I'm pretty sure FileZilla will do this automatically by default.  Or there is an easy firefox extension they can use.
[10:56] <Crippy-Boy> DigitalNinja, Yes
[10:56] <freakabcd> hackel_, why exactly would you want to do this in omshell?
[10:56] <freakabcd> why not just use dhclient?
[10:56] <jordan> gansinho, There is actually a .deb for ubuntu, you don't need to compile it yourself.
[10:56] <CharonX> hackel_, ok, ill look into that
[10:56] <gansinho> jordan:  where?
[10:57] <u4a> hello all
[10:57] <hackel_> freakabcd:  I have no idea, I was just reading trying to figure it out.  So I just have to release and then start dhclient again?  No way to make the running process do both?
[10:57] <DigitalNinja> Crippy-Boy: is that "make && make install" or is there an Ubuntu command that does it for me?
[10:57] <jordan> gansinho, I'm looking for the link...
[10:57] <fdoving> dmb: can you take a look at /etc/network/interfaces again. i think it contains more that the part you pasted to me, in a terminal use 'less /etc/network/interfaces' scroll down with space or the arrow keys. can you paste everything below 'auto wlan0' ?
[10:57] <freakabcd> jordan, more like the main devs _use_ ubuntu and the fastest and initial release packages _are_ for ubuntu
[10:57] <Aileran> VVIki: try refreshing your desktop, if that's where you mounted it
[10:57] <gansinho> jordan: thank you very much
[10:57] <SVG> is there anybody that can help me get my audio card working? I have a 5.1 surround card, and the Device Manager recognizes it, but I'm getting no sound
[10:57] <freakabcd> hackel_, sounds like it from the description of -r. dhclient -r && dhclient
[10:57] <erUSUL> !sound
[10:57] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:57] <Crippy-Boy> DigitalNinja, No, you need to do the usual ./configure, make && make install
[10:57] <u4a> does anyone knows how to play realplayer streaming in ubuntu powerpc?
[10:58] <dmb> fdoving: the last thing is auto wlan0
[10:58] <dmb> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[10:58] <freakabcd> u4a, tried mplayer?
[10:58] <hackel_> freakabcd:  Yeah that would work.  I'm sure there's a way to do it with OMAPI/omshell but I don't really feel like figuring it out!
[10:58] <fdoving> dmb: are you sure?
[10:58] <freakabcd> surely it streams fine
[10:58] <dmb> fdoving: yes
[10:59] <SVG> thanks ubotu
[10:59] <{ergo}Proxy> anyone can help me ? i have a problem with vpn cisco, after i installed it and connected to the internet, like said in the ubuntu forum, when i try to update or download smth. my computer hangs
[10:59] <freakabcd> hackel_, and i ask again. why would you want to do it with omshell when you know how to do it with dhclient and it is painless
[10:59] <DigitalNinja> Crippy-Boy: I'm about to do this with samba. Do I need to know all the options for "./configure" or are they in there? I'm just looking fore the default settings. Smae ones in the binary version.
[10:59] <dmb> fdoving: theres a lot of whitespace on the bottom though
[10:59] <mlask> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[10:59] <hackel_> freakabcd:  Because it is the "right" way to do it, I don't have to kill the running process, and it maintains my existing lease files, etc. and ifdown will still know the pid to kill it.
[10:59] <dmb> fdoving: um, some really weird stuff is going on
[11:00] <dmb> i just opened it in nano, and theres more
[11:00] <fdoving> dmb: ok, re-open it with nano: 'sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces' and delete every thing, including white spaces, below the iface wlan0 line.
[11:00] <dmb> but it doesn't show this in less
[11:00] <freakabcd> if its the right way, then you find out more :) i cannot help you. i just found out what you wanted to do with dhclient
[11:00] <Crippy-Boy> DigitalNinja, Im not sure if theres any flags you can use, but im sure you could find that info or you'll probably be ok just doing ./configure
[11:00] <u4a> freakabcd: thanks i think that i don't have installed the codec
[11:00] <jordan> gansinho, I found this but it is not the one I am using, I am still searching for that link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268645
[11:00] <dmb> theres a bynch of these: iface  inet static
[11:00] <dmb> iface
[11:00] <Crippy-Boy> DigitalNinja, Is samba not in the repo's
[11:01] <freakabcd> u4a, no worries. mplayer should be able to play the stream fine.
[11:01] <fdoving> dmb: those are the ones making problems for you. delete everything below 'iface wlan0 inet dhcp'
[11:01] <{ergo}Proxy> guys can u help me please
[11:01] <gansinho> jordan: thanks for being so helpfull
[11:01] <dmb> fdoving: actually your were right, i just never scrolled down far enough
[11:01] <dmb> its over 100 lines below that
[11:01] <DigitalNinja> Crippy-Boy: It's in there but I need the source version. I need to compile a module for samba.
[11:01] <Jay2> adios, amigos
[11:01] <freakabcd> {ergo}Proxy / Vincento : unless you ask a question, no one can help you!
[11:02] <Crippy-Boy> DigitalNinja, Ahh fair enough, Ive never needed samba :-)
[11:02] <{ergo}Proxy> i have a problem with vpn cisco, after i installed it and connected to the internet, like said in the ubuntu forum, when i try to update or download smth. my computer hangs
[11:02] <jordan> gansinho, No problem, I had to spend about 30 min. trying to compile frome source before I found a .deb :)
[11:02] <{ergo}Proxy> http://www.popey.com/node/62
[11:02] <dmb> fdoving: why would there ever be that anyway in that file
[11:02] <freakabcd> uh, i can;t help.
[11:02] <freakabcd> guys, this time i'm really going to sleep
[11:02] <DigitalNinja> Crippy-Boy: I don't need it either but I have others that use %$^&% and they need to store files on the server
[11:02] <fdoving> dmb: don't know. let's just hope it doesn't come back.
[11:03] <dmb> ifup lo works now
[11:03] <{ergo}Proxy> anyone ?
[11:03] <fdoving> dmb: good, then it'll work on boot too.
[11:03] <dmb> nice
[11:03] <dmb> thanks
[11:03] <{ergo}Proxy> freakabcd thanks anyway :)
[11:03] <fdoving> dmb: and with the 'lo' interface up, your machine will behave nice.
[11:03] <dmb> i should of noticed that there was something 100 lines below everything else
[11:03] <Crippy-Boy> DigitalNinja, sftp :-D
[11:04] <eztk> hmmm.something strange going on. still having problems trying to burn an iso on to DVD. k3b cant even detect the dvd drive
[11:04] <eztk> this is wierd
[11:04] <drivera> Stop Fluttering Through Pants?
[11:04] <eztk> maybe the rights have changed
[11:04] <gansinho> jordan:  I miss a dependency =/
[11:04] <dmb> for the longest time i was wondering why my dns server wasn't working(that was the main issue), and lo not being up was the reason
[11:04] <eztk> the dvd drive is definately fine. can see it in device manager
[11:04] <DigitalNinja> Crippy-Boy: Won't work. Nice idea though
[11:04] <Crippy-Boy> Fair enough :-)
[11:05] <gansinho> jordan:  I miss libatk1.0-0
[11:05] <fdoving> dmb: lo is important for the whole system. :)
[11:05] <eztk> hmm
[11:05] <dmb> fdoving: for some reason, gnome-networking would just randmely start working, which is what i didn't get
[11:06] <dmb> i'm asumming its gnome-networking that messed up the config file in the first place
[11:06] <fdoving> dmb: i don't know anything about gnome-networking, i just know the terminal stuff, and kde-things :)
[11:06] <dmb> oh
[11:06] <dmb> anyway, thanks a lot
[11:06] <fdoving> dmb: you're welcome :)
[11:07] <Rapidwolve> Help!
[11:07] <Rapidwolve> When I boot ubuntu from my hard disk it reboots my computer
[11:07] <Rapidwolve> here is my boot.ini
[11:07] <Rapidwolve> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\
[11:08] <Rapidwolve> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\="Ubuntu"
[11:08] <rawler> heya-ppl!
[11:08] <rawler> just wrote my first Spec for Ubuntu! :)
[11:08] <Rapidwolve> Whats wrong with it
[11:09] <{ergo}Proxy> i have a problem with vpn cisco, after i installed it and connected to the internet, like said in the ubuntu forum, when i try to update or download smth. my computer hangs
[11:09] <{ergo}Proxy> can anyone help me please
[11:09] <eztk> can anyone recommend a good virtual machine system for ubuntu? want to play around with vista rc1 within a virtual machine. or would VMWare server be a better choice?
[11:09] <jordan> gansinho, I am still looking for the one that worked for me, are you using Dapper or Edgy?
[11:09] <rawler> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XlessLoginSpec <- please check it out, and tell me what you think.. :)
[11:09] <dmb> fdoving: i think the same thing happened in my hosts file a couple days ago also, there was like a million linebreaks and some uneeded random stuff on the bottom
[11:09] <johnniewalker> anyone know a GOOD amount of memory to allocate for the GM 855 video chipset?
[11:09] <dmb> fdoving: it could be a filesystem problem, although i ran fsck and there was no problems
[11:09] <gansinho> jordan: dapper
[11:09] <johnniewalker> have it set to the 16MB in the faq but still seems slow
[11:10] <gansinho> jordan: It's strange, I have libatk - dev but when I try that package it does not install because I miss libatk ... =/
[11:10] <fdoving> dmb: i have never, during my ~6 years with linux,  experienced anything like that.
[11:11] <dmb> fdoving: i have expereinced a filesystem problem where much of my file in /etc were combined, i opened them and i would see like 1 file then some junk and then start of another file
[11:11] <dmb> that was in the older days when i was using gentoo
[11:12] <harisund> Hello! Can somebody quickly give me a run down of what the framebuffer is and what it does? And why is it that disabling it has so much of an effect while installing from the terminal?
[11:12] <fdoving> dmb: sounds strange.
[11:13] <fdoving> harisund: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framebuffer
[11:13] <remu> when using the command "sudo vi" how do i save and exit this editor?
[11:13] <dmb> fdoving: i don't think i had a journal in the fs back then, so problems probably started happening after power outages and non-synced disks or kernel crashes
[11:13] <fdoving> harisund: it's painfully slow compared to the 'real' console.
[11:13] <jrib> remu: :wq     run 'vimtutor' for a quick lesson
[11:13] <harisund> fdoving, that was the first page I read anyway. I was wondering if somebody here could give me a better explanation than the highly scientific jargon in the Wikipedia
[11:13] <THX-1138> fdoving - I liked your use of sed do you have a link?
[11:13] <jrib> remu: let me correct that to:   ESC :wq
[11:14] <THX-1138> nvm
[11:14] <LjL> remu: and "nano" is a more limited, but also more intuitive text-mode editor
[11:14] <RazvanS> when release ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft ??
[11:14] <jrib> ubotu: tell RazvanS about schedule
[11:14] <LjL> !schedule > RazvanS
[11:14] <fdoving> THX-1138: what use of sed?
[11:15] <remu> well im using a tutorial for installing xgl, and its somewhat confusing me, haha, it switches me back and forth between gedit and vi
[11:15] <yancm> I just installed 6.06-1 alternate using the light installfor low memory systems. I tried fluxbox and icewm, but I can only launch firefox. I cannot launch a shell, telnet or synaptic, or anything other than firefox - even though they show up on hte menu. Any advice?
[11:15] <Justy-> Hello
[11:15] <Justy-> !xchat
[11:15] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[11:15] <THX-1138> apt-cache depends ubuntu-standard|grep Depends|sed s/Depends://g|xargs apt-get -s install --reinstall
[11:15] <jrib> remu: just stick with gedit, or use nano like LjL suggested, if you want a cli editor
[11:15] <nicholaspaul> Q: do i need to keep /var/cache/apt/archives ??
[11:15] <drezha> hi all
[11:15] <drezha> I've mounted a network share on my Ubuntu rig but restarted the other PC...now Ubuntu wont let me do anything to the mount file system
[11:16] <nicholaspaul> Can i just delete them?
[11:16] <remu> i have been using gedit, however, for some reason, when it asks me to chmod it....once i hit enter, nothing really happens
[11:16] <Justy-> Could anyone please inform me about the name of the package "xchat", **not** "xchat-gnome" ?
[11:16] <jrib> nicholaspaul: no, use apt-get clean
[11:16] <LjL> remu, maybe it tells you to use vi in the parts (if any) where you're supposed to have no working X server. however, nano will do
[11:16] <nicholaspaul> jrib: whats that?
[11:16] <LjL> remu: chmod... what?
[11:16] <jrib> nicholaspaul: man apt-get :)
[11:16] <remu> http://www.biodesign.com.ar/blog/?p=16
[11:16] <nicholaspaul> jrib: oh alright!! ;)
[11:17] <clyrrad> Hello room - can someone please tell me how to change the Icon name for mounted shares?  By default it Puts "Remote Share (//blah blah) - I would like to rename it to say something like ShareFolder
[11:17] <jordan> gansinho, This is the one that worked for me on Edgy, it is supposed to work on Dapper also ttp://forum.beryl-project.org/attachment.php?item=2548
[11:17] <nicholaspaul> jrib: thx 4 the tip
[11:17] <remu> for xgl, to chmod the startxgl.sh
[11:17] <grndslm> jrib, isn't aptitude better than apt-get???
[11:17] <jrib> nicholaspaul: it basically deletes everything like you wanted to do, but the man page also tells you about 'autoclean' which you might want instead
[11:17] <LjL> remu: sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/startxgl.sh? what does that have to do with using gedit as opposed to vi as opposed to whatever editor?
[11:17] <jrib> grndslm: sometimes
[11:17] <gansinho> jordan: thanks a lot!
[11:17] <LjL> remu: and what does "nothing really happens" mean?
[11:17] <remu> it doesnt, im sorry, i should have been more clear
[11:18] <jordan> gansinho, Did it work?
[11:18] <clyrrad> does anyone know how to rename the ICONF mounted shares that gets automatically placed on the desktop?
[11:18] <peter77> Hi when I run my laptop from battery the display doesn't adjust the brightness
[11:18] <gansinho> just a sec
[11:18] <remu> the chmod is a seperate issue, when i type that command in, it just goes onto the next line
[11:18] <clyrrad> ICON*
[11:18] <LjL> remu: nothing is *supposed* to happen. when a command succeeds, it usually tells you nothing. it's when it fails that informs you of an error.
[11:18] <remu> it doesnt seem to give me a prompt
[11:18] <remu> aha, fair enough, thats what i needed to know
[11:18] <remu> thanks
[11:18] <elriah> Hi all.  With the ubuntu 6.06 server, is the kernel (labeled ending in -server) SMP capable or do I need to install an smp kernel?
[11:18] <Justy-> Can I learn name of the xchat package, not the gnome-xchat
[11:18] <drezha> I've mounted a network share on my Ubuntu rig but restarted the other PC...now Ubuntu wont let me do anything to the mounted file system. How can I stop this? A restart works but I don't want to restart
[11:19] <Justy-> please
[11:19] <jordan> elriah, You need to install an SMP kernel.
[11:19] <jrib> !info xchat2
[11:19] <ubotu> Package xchat2 does not exist in any distro I know
[11:19] <LjL> !xchat
[11:19] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[11:19] <elriah> Thanks.
[11:19] <nicholaspaul> jrib: ok, i installed clean. how do i use it?theres no man and no --help
[11:19] <jrib> nicholaspaul: no, not install clean, just 'sudo apt-get clean'  That deletes the archives
[11:19] <jordan> elriah, Actually I am not 100% sure.
[11:19] <LjL> Justy: weird that the package name for xchat is xchat, isn't it ;)
[11:20] <nicholaspaul> jrib: ohise.. yea thats what i did, i thot it was installing a prog:)
[11:20] <Justy> LjL: It can't find xchat, is there a problem with my repositories?
[11:20] <LjL> Justy: suppose so. do you have universe enabled?
[11:20] <X-Hacker> yo
[11:20] <Pntkl> hey
[11:20] <gansinho> jordan:  I still have the error: dependency is not satisfiable: libatk1.0-0 =(
[11:21] <yancm> 2nd call: I just installed 6.06-1 alternate using the light installfor low memory systems. I tried fluxbox and icewm, but I can only launch firefox. I cannot launch a shell, telnet or synaptic, or anything other than firefox - even though they show up on hte menu. Any advice?
[11:21] <Justy> LjL: @sudo gedit /etc/sources.list, is the only thing i should do uncommenting the universe?
[11:21] <Justy> LjL: sorry /etc/apt
[11:21] <LjL> Justy: yes (perhaps also add "multiverse" after "universe" if you want -- multiverse contains "non-free" stuff), and then run "sudo apt-get update"
[11:22] <gansinho> jordan: but now the one that I've compiled is working... but I don't have the icon in the tray... how to configure it ?
[11:22] <jhasse> Why isn`t jvm 1.5 in the repros of ubuntu??
[11:22] <Justy> LjL: thanks
[11:22] <X-Hacker> I'll think about it
[11:22] <LjL> !repos > justy
[11:22] <Pntkl> ?
[11:23] <jordan> gansinho, Use ale-carte menue editor.
[11:23] <jrib> jhasse: it's in multiverse
[11:23] <jrib> ubotu: tell jhasse about java
[11:23] <adrian_> !java
[11:23] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:24] <yancm> helpanewb? 8-)
[11:24] <stefg> !info sun-java5-jdk
[11:24] <ubotu> sun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 4868 kB, installed size 11548 kB
[11:24] <RazvanS> playing: "Miruna Oprea - Nu mi-e frica de Bau-Bau" [320kbps] [44kHz] [Stereo]
[11:24] <gansinho> jordan: nope, the icon in the tray, not the launcher... I should have a icon near the beryl's one? to configure kiba-dock?
[11:25] <LjL> RazvanS: please don't do that
[11:25] <JohnWang> ive got a small problem, I started gparted to resize my windows partition like I normally do, I unmouted it but it does not give me the option to resize
[11:25] <RazvanS> sorry
[11:25] <stefg> JohnWang: run a chkdsk in windows on it
[11:26] <adrian_> jrib, I am new but ubotu is a bot, an automated response system. If there is something in particular you want a quick info on put a ! in front and it may well reply with an appropriate answer
[11:26] <[GuS] > Rez are you there? i want to setup a cloak for me
[11:26] <peter77> how come sceen brightness isn't chnaging when running off battery?
[11:26] <klonoa> i want to get partition my harddrive so there is ubuntu partition / windows xp partition and a 3rd partition for files that i can access files from boths OS's is this possible?
[11:26] <Fibbs> hi folks
[11:26] <jrib> ubotu: tell adrian_ about yourself
[11:26] <jordan> gansinho, I don't kow, I don't have an icon in the tray, I just right click on the dock and go to kiba-utils -> gset-kiba.
[11:26] <jrib> adrian_: that syntax lets you send info to users, see? :)
[11:26] <peter77> I get the message saying Battery saving now active
[11:26] <Fibbs> i would like to know if there is a howto to get suspend2 running in ubuntu
[11:26] <gansinho> jordan: thanks... I'm getting used to it now...
[11:27] <eztk> any VMWare server experts in here? having some trouble installing it on Ubuntu / dapper
[11:27] <gansinho> jordan:  thanks a lot for the help!
[11:27] <yancm> helpanewb please? %-)
[11:27] <jordan> gansinho, No problem :)
[11:27] <eztk> keep getting "A previous installation of VMware software has been detected."
[11:27] <eztk> and i already removed vmware-player
[11:27] <eztk> :s
[11:27] <adrian_> Nice one jrib :D
[11:27] <whyso> hi, ive burned the CD, but when i get to the installation menu and do anything (hit instal/start, or check CD for errors) it says loading forever. what could be my problem
[11:28] <Nihil85> hi, i have a problem: ubuntu dapper doesn't works, it crashes at startup when it's mounting local filesystem. I tried to run the live cd but also the live cd crashes at the same point. How can i solve this?
[11:28] <whyso> ive used multiple cd burners
[11:28] <jhasse> ok i have installed sun-java5-jdk but when i type java -version it says 1.4
[11:28] <JohnWang> stefg, I have only ever resised fat32 windows partitions, this one is ntfs, would that make a difference?
[11:28] <jhasse> any ideas?
[11:29] <stefg> JohnWang: if gparted detects a possibly unclean filesystem it won't touch it
[11:29] <whyso> try a 1.5 feature, see if it works
[11:29] <yancm> I just installed 6.06-1 alternate using the light installfor low memory systems. I tried fluxbox and icewm, but I can only launch firefox. I cannot launch a shell,
[11:29] <yancm>  telnet or synaptic, or anything other than firefox - even though they show up on hte menu. Any advice?
[11:29] <JohnWang> ok
[11:29] <JohnWang> thank you
[11:29] <whyso> hi, ive burned the CD, but when i get to the installation menu and do anything (hit instal/start, or check CD for errors) it says loading forever. what could be my problem
[11:30] <jrib> ubotu: tell jhasse about multijava
[11:30] <panagos> what is the default password for the ubuntu 5.04 live CD (both root and ubuntu)?
[11:30] <stefg> whyso: Desktop-CD? How much Ram?
[11:30] <atlef> whyso : tried redownloading
[11:30] <Crippy-Boy> panagos, There isnt one, you must set one
[11:30] <whyso> 4 gigs
[11:31] <whyso> yeah desktop
[11:31] <jrib> panagos: root is locked, the user's password is blank I think, user is ubuntu
[11:31] <stefg> ok, that's definitely enough
[11:31] <whyso> not tried redling tho
[11:31] <jrib> ubotu: tell panagos about sudo
[11:31] <atlef> whyso : other hardware
[11:31] <peter77> Hi, I'm running ubuntu edgy and I have power saving enabled, when I run my laptop off the battery though it doesn't dim the display
[11:31] <panagos> root is locked o_O ?
[11:32] <whyso> intel EE 3.2 MHZ, 2 raided sata drives 500 each
[11:32] <LjL> ubotu tell panagos about root
[11:32] <Crippy-Boy> panagos, use sudo, or enable the root account(sudo passwd root)
[11:32] <jrib> panagos: read the private message from ubotu
[11:32] <whyso> radeon (cant remember # video card)
[11:32] <atlef> whyso : had any other distro booted on the system?
[11:32] <whyso> no, ubuntu first to try
[11:32] <LjL> panagos you're aware that 5.04 is quite outdated i suppose?
[11:32] <jhasse> jrib, thx
[11:33] <panagos> how do i mount my hard disk on ubuntu?
[11:33] <panagos> yeah, i am aware
[11:33] <stefg> !mount
[11:33] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[11:33] <adrian_> !<sudo> > <adrian_>
[11:33] <ubotu> sudo: Provide limited super user privileges to specific users. In component main, is important. Version 1.6.8p12-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 158 kB, installed size 376 kB
[11:33] <atlef> try f6 on the ubuntu bootscreen an add noapic to the end of that line
[11:33] <atlef> *and
[11:34] <jordan> jhasse, What is the output of `update-java-alternatives -l`?
[11:34] <atlef> !noapic
[11:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about noapic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <whyso> you think my hardware not work with ubuntu or something?
[11:35] <atlef> whyso : i had some of the same problems, and it worked with noapic
[11:36] <jordan> jhasse, Never mind, jrib already covered it.
[11:36] <whyso> ah ok thanks
[11:36] <whyso> whats noapic
[11:36] <whyso> another distro?
[11:36] <atlef> no
[11:36] <LjL> ...
[11:37] <whyso> what is it ?
[11:37] <LjL> whyso: [23:33]  <atlef> try f6 on the ubuntu bootscreen an add noapic to the end of that line
[11:38] <Nihil85> hi, i have a problem: ubuntu dapper doesn't works, it crashes at startup when it's mounting local filesystem. I tried to run the live cd but also the live cd crashes at the same point. How can i solve this?
[11:38] <multi> hi
[11:38] <jordan> whyso, It is an option passed to the kernel at boot.
[11:38] <multi> hi people
[11:38] <whyso> ah ok thanks
[11:38] <atlef> whyso : at the first screen when booting ubuntu, where you choose to install, check cd etc. hit f6 and add noapic and hit enter
[11:38] <LjL> ... add a space, add "noapic" and hit enter
[11:39] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[11:39] <bran> how can i make "apt-get update" look for "binary-ppc" instead of "binary-powerpc" ??
[11:40] <LjL> !it > tuxtux
[11:40] <THX-1138>  With Twinview there are two windows and the cursor can pass between them. What can be changed to enable an application to pass across two screens?
[11:40] <multi>
[11:41] <multi> ))
[11:41] <multi>
[11:41] <multi> ???
[11:41] <LjL> !ru
[11:41] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[11:41] <tuxtux> LjL: thanke
[11:41] <Rapidwolve> Help! How do I boot Ubuntu from my Hard Disk
[11:41] <DigitalNinja> How do I setup framebuffer?
[11:41] <whyso> thanks
[11:41] <darkanyel> how can i use ascii in ubuntu?
[11:42] <LjL> darkanyel: you mean as opposed to UTF-8?
[11:42] <multi> komu pomoch?
[11:43] <LjL> multi: we only speak english here
[11:43] <darkanyel> LjL, not sure, i just wanna use some letters, like  and other simblos
[11:43] <darkanyel> simbols
[11:43] <LjL> darkanyel: that has nothing to do with ASCII...
[11:43] <Justy-> question: Is there  a package for windows fonts?
[11:43] <Hitch> darkanyel, try to find the symbols in the charachter map
[11:43] <darkanyel> wll, in windows is "ALT + 164"
[11:43] <darkanyel> in ubuntu, i dont know...
[11:44] <stefg> !msttcorefonts
[11:44] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[11:44] <clyrrad> how can i rename mounted media is this possible?
[11:44] <LjL> darkanyel: use a character map program. in KDE it's kcharselect. yeah, there is also a way to type numbers directly, but i don't remember it, and anyway i'm afraid those would have to be Unicode numbers and not ascii
[11:45] <Hitch> LjL, there is a character map in the accessories in gnome2
[11:45] <Justy-> stefg, does msttcorefonts include the font named "Verdana" ?
[11:45] <LjL> thanks, darkanyel, look at what Hitch said
[11:46] <stefg> Justy-: I think so
[11:46] <LjL> darkanyel, i know Gnome also has an applet that can be added to the panel (right click on the panel, add applet) that allows you to easily select various accented characters
[11:47] <darkanyel> whats the meanin of "U+0241" ???
[11:47] <Seeking1> hi
[11:47] <Seeking1> whats the latest offical version of root kit hunter?  one 1 webpage it says 1.2.8 and another 1.2.9. Any ideas?
[11:48] <ladydoor> does anybody know what "HDs which have an md superblock from an earlier install in a different RAID array" *means* and how i can tell if i have it/them?
[11:49] <Justy-> stefg, it outputted me : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26804/
[11:49] <crazdiam> trying to playback from my input device live, i must be missing something because my line in bar in th emixer is all the way up and i still cant get anything, anyone have any ideas?
[11:49] <stefg> Justy-: you need universe enabled
[11:49] <stefg> !repos
[11:49] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:50] <Justy-> stefg, i think it is enabled, i just did enabled it and installed xchat
[11:50] <stefg> Justy-: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[11:51] <DigitalNinja> Is there a source package for samba? I can't find one
[11:51] <stefg> Justy-: it's _multiverse_ which is different from universe
[11:51] <Justy-> stefg, i have multiverse enabled too...
[11:52] <Seeking1> whats the latest offical version of root kit hunter?  one 1 webpage it says 1.2.8 and another 1.2.9. Any ideas?
[11:52] <stefg> then it should work
[11:52] <Justy-> stefg, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26807/
[11:52] <m0> !xorg-air
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg-air - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <m0> What is Xorg Air?
[11:53] <m0> Xorg-air is using 60% of my CPU
[11:53] <stefg> Justy-: you don't have multiverse enabled, see !easysource
[11:53] <anon32> help!
[11:53] <Tamed_G> back back...back from my magical journey!!
[11:53] <Justy-> hmm
[11:53] <Justy-> !easysource > Justy
[11:53] <Justy-> !easysource > Justy-
[11:53] <anon32> how can I replace the crappy icons and logos in firefox with the normal ones?
[11:54] <Tamed_G> hrm well it seems that ATi x64 drivers are as sucky in Linux as they are in Windows
[11:54] <Justy-> stefg, i dont have multiverse in the list or i have it commented ?
[11:54] <anon32> how can I replace the crappy icons and logos in firefox with the normal ones?
[11:54] <ladydoor> !repeat
[11:54] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:55] <Tamed_G> anyone have any tips on playing video files stored on a Windows/M$oft netwrok?
[11:55] <bran> how can i make "apt-get update" look for "binary-ppc" instead of   "binary-powerpc" ??
[11:55] <anon32> !firefox
[11:55] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:56] <anon32> !firefoxicons
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firefoxicons - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <stefg> Justy-: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26808/
[11:56] <m0> Xorg-air is using 60% of my CPU, can someone  please tell me why
[11:57] <difeta> how can I setup a software raid setup? I want my two sata disks to mirror each other
[11:57] <sureshot> jack_sparrow are you on my friend
[11:57] <stefg> !raid
[11:57] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:57] <ladydoor> does anybody know what "HDs which have an md superblock from an earlier install in a different RAID array" means and how to tell if i have one?
[11:57] <Megaqwerty> Do you ever need to run a defragmenter on linux?
[11:57] <Renan_s2> !samba
[11:57] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:57] <Renan_s2> Megaqwerty, not at all
[11:57] <Tamed_G> !network drives
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network drives - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <m0>  !xorg
[11:58] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:58] <Megaqwerty> Renan_s2: sweet, does ubotu have some sort of explanation as to why?
[11:58] <Renan_s2> Megaqwerty, no
[11:58] <Renan_s2> but unless you work with a lot of large files, don't worry
[11:58] <m0> !xorg-air
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg-air - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <stefg> ladydoor: that means that the drives carry a raid signature already. you'll notice if you run mdadm
[11:58] <Megaqwerty> ok, thanks
[11:58] <ladydoor> stefg: so if i run mdadm, it'll tell me (safely)?
[11:58] <Crippy-Boy> Megaqwerty, No, The joys of having a half decent file system :-)
[11:59] <Justy-> stefg,  thanks =)
[11:59] <XiXaQ> how can I allow a user to run wine mirc.exe but disallow wine anythingElse.exe?
[11:59] <stefg> ladydoor: yup, because anyway you'll have to make an fs on a newly created raid
[11:59] <sureshot> ware can i get a list of ubunto shell command are they on my system or is there a wiki page i would really like to not to have to ask so many question. i need to learn
[11:59] <Crippy-Boy> XiXaQ, Use a different irc client?
[12:00] <johnny__> hiya all
[12:00] <ladydoor> stefg: errr...i'm just trying to dist-upgrade
[12:00] <sureshot> hey Crippy-Boy how are you
[12:00] <XiXaQ> Crippy-Boy, that's not the point. That was only an example. I want the user to be able to run one windows program under wine, but not just any program.
[12:00] <johnsan> #kernelnewbies-es
[12:00] <stefg> ladydoor: so how does this affect your raid arrays ???
[12:01] <ladydoor> i got a message from dpkg saying it (or technically root did)
[12:01] <johnny__> i would like to add a program to my startup sessions but it ask for me to browse to the program... where are the programs located on ubuntu?


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[00:29] <atari2600a> y'all better do a rush job of upstreaming mesa or SOMETHING cause this OS STINKS
[00:29] <atari2600a> seriously look at me, I'm using IRSSI
[00:30] <atari2600a> how could you have done this, seriously?
[00:35] <Maik> atari2600a: first of all for once, try to be nice. CoC applies in all these channels and there are the guidelines to follow. Calling people here names and what not is NOT appreciated at all. Second we are all volunteers here and don't get payed for this. Third, there's not much activity here in the channel. If you think you found bugs just report them on launchpad.
[00:35] <Maik> thanks in advance
[00:35] <guiverc> atari2600a, didn't your mum tell you you'll get better responses with honey & not vinegar
[00:37] <Maik> also, this isn't the ubuntu-arm channel
[00:40] <Maik> guiverc: he's been acting like this from the start, probably frustrated that no one here answers at all
[00:41] <guiverc> yeah I've seen the name lots recently... many channels too
[00:41] <Maik> this is the third time he showed this behaviour, the ops have been informed since the last time
[00:44] <atari2600a> lol OPS?
[00:44] <atari2600a> also, anything prerelease is your responsibility
[00:44] <atari2600a> I'm not looking for support for a proper product
[00:45] <Maik> nothing is my responsibility because i don't develop
[00:45] <Maik> atari2600a: just stop and change your attitude
[00:45] <guiverc> I'm not a developer either, but pre-release aren't supported products, thus the waiver on all annoucenments telling users they should expect problems and be capable of dealing with them. Users are requested to log problems so they can get fixed (ie. bug reporting)
[00:46] <guiverc> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[00:47] <guiverc> there is so bug reporting; right now I'm updating the QA-tracker for hirsute, plus launchpad on bug testing performed making sure they are in sync.
[00:48]  * guiverc was responding to PMs I won't reply except in the open
[00:51] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu ! No secrets :P
[00:55] <guiverc> atari2600a, if unsure and you have a launchpad account, a simple `ubuntu-bug linux` is probably a good fallback (linux being the kernel); a bug triager will adjust the package to whatever is appropriate.   More clues are found on the ISO tracker http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/419/builds
[00:55] <guiverc> but note I'm not really taking much notice of PMs, I'm busy in launchpad updating hirsute bug reports
[01:00] <atari2600a> thanks, that's all I needed
[22:23] <luna> i wanna die
[22:31] <Maik> luna: could you please stop it and not post this in every channel you're in?
[22:31] <Maik> thanks in advance
[22:31] <luna> sure i should stop being suicidal