[09:36] <computer> mneptok lol a lil afraid to go feisty, is it at any rate error prone?
[09:36] <mneptok> computer: no more so than Edgy
[09:37] <Hobbsee> it's less buggy than edgy
[09:37] <Hobbsee> and you can actually get the latest kde releases for it, as shown in the topic
[09:37] <fdoving> computer: i always install: screen, kismet, netwox, netcat, lft, nmap, mailody, dolphin and kuickshow among otherthings.
[09:37] <computer> hmm tempted
[09:37] <computer> fdoving cool thx, copy pasting that list as of now =)
[09:37] <ritalin> which one is the install cd for?
[09:37] <titanix88> Darkkish: insted of upgrading this way tell him to get a non live feisty cd & then burn the .iso & add it to repository. then dist upgrade. it will upgrade directly (not sure though)
[09:37] <ritalin> cause thats hwat im on
[09:38] <computer> fdoving btw how do i uninstall what i installed using dpkg
[09:38] <fdoving> computer: i guess you won't need kismet netwox netcat lft nor nmap. if you don't do network and security things.
[09:38] <AutoMatriX> Hi folks .... problem : dell latitude ls400 wher can I find the refresh rate of the monitor ?
[09:38] <ritalin> this great site i heard about
[09:38] <ritalin> www.google.com
[09:38] <ritalin> ;)
[09:38] <computer> fdoving i don't lol, *deleting* list as we speak =)
[09:38] <fdoving> computer: i use aptitude from the commandline, like 'sudo aptitude install list of packages separated by spaces'
[09:38] <titanix88> computer: "sudo dpkg -r packagename"
[09:38] <computer> titanix88 ah cool thx
[09:39] <computer> fdoving and thx for earlier tips as well =)
[09:39] <fdoving> computer: dolphin, kuickshow and mailody are still nice :)
[09:39] <AutoMatriX> Hi folks .... problem : dell latitude ls400 wher can I find the refresh rate of the monitor ?
[09:39] <titanix88> computer np :)
[09:40] <titanix88> while a lot of people ask h to use command line i may ask anyone ever read GNU/linux cmd line interface intro "man 1 intro"?
[09:41] <Andrew``> I dont have a SYSTEM>ADMINISTRATION> icon either on desktop or in main menu.. is this a problem.. and if so How do I rectify it?
[09:42] <Hobbsee> Andrew``: it's not.  it was a gnome thing
[09:42] <mike> does someone of you have a rt2500 wireless chipset up and running with networkmanager?
[09:42] <computer> off topic: i installed edgy on hp recovery disk's partition (8.5g), i have windows on the rest of the harddrive, is there someway (without erasing files from windows) that i can repartition the windows partition (ntfs) to give more space to edgy?
[09:42] <titanix88> Andrew``: using both gnome & kde?
[09:42] <fdoving> mike: no, that didn't work at all for me. i ended up using kwlan.
[09:42] <computer> i tried partition magic and boot magic (which i spent 3  hrs deleting... lol), and that didn't work out well
[09:43] <Andrew``> titanix88: no KDE alone
[09:43] <computer> i couldn't split window partition with partition magic, i suppose it's cuz it's ntfs not fat?
[09:43] <Andrew``> I am still having trouble installing nvidia
[09:43] <Andrew``> bugger it
[09:43] <titanix88> while a lot of people ask h to use command line i may ask anyone ever read GNU/linux cmd line interface intro "man 1 intro"?
[09:43] <titanix88> Andrew``: what problem?
[09:43] <fdoving> titanix88: yes, why do you ask about man intro?
[09:44] <Andrew``> says no libc header files
[09:45] <titanix88> fdoving: it's should be the start page of command linerers,that;s why.
[09:45] <titanix88> Andrew``: tried from repos?
[09:45] <Andrew``> dont know how to
[09:45] <fdoving> titanix88: have you seen "/msg ubotu cli" ?
[09:46] <titanix88> fdoving: what does it say?
[09:46] <computer> fdoving : srry, but same question with earlier, i pasted error in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23844/, i tried to use adept to get module-assistant but it's not in adept =(
[09:46] <fdoving> Andrew``: get the package linux-libc-dev
[09:46] <fdoving> computer: you need to enable the universe repository.
[09:46] <titanix88> Andrew`` what graphics card?
[09:47] <computer> fdoving ah cool thx, by uncommenting it right
[09:47] <Andrew``> FX5200
[09:47] <fdoving> computer: 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' uncomment.. yes.
[09:47] <computer> fdoving thx =)
[09:47] <fdoving> computer: then run 'sudo aptitude update' and then 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[09:48] <computer> fdoving thx, especially for typing out the path to sources list, i woulda had to google for that hehe
[09:49] <computer> fdoving should i get the backport repo uncommented as well
[09:49] <Andrew``> titanix88: I have a fx5200
[09:49] <fdoving> computer: don't need that.
[09:49] <computer> k thx
[09:49] <computer> any harm to uncommment those
[09:50] <computer> can i just uncomment every repo
[09:50] <fdoving> yes. you can.
[09:50] <computer> srry for the string of pretty much retarded questions lol
[09:50] <computer> cool
[09:51] <netdaemon> no games included on the install =(
[09:52] <computer> well guess i've reached a conclusion not to use the "envy" program
[09:52] <computer> so many people said not to use it too lol, plus i can't get it to install har har
[09:53] <computer> is there a repo for the latest ndiswrapper?
[09:53] <titanix88_> Andrews'': u should try"sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[09:54] <titanix88_> then "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[09:54] <Andrew``> ok thanks... also.. I dont have a "my computer" so I cant browse my puter.. any help on this?
[09:55] <Andrew``> titanix88 can I paste 2 lines?
[09:56] <titanix88_> Andrew``: kcontrol center-> appearence->icons->devices(maybe)->show removable drives,home on Desktop etc.
[09:56] <titanix88_> Andrew``:what lines??!!
[09:57] <Andrew``> after trying sudo apt-get....
[09:57] <Andrew``> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:57] <Andrew``> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:58] <smithw> Hello everyone... I'm having some troubles with the wifi configuration. My Kubuntu box connects through wifi to a "router" computer. Everything is fine, except when I have to reboot that computer; Kubuntu reconnects to the local network, but it loses all routing and dns configuration. Using "route" on CLI doesn't seem to help either, so maybe I'm wrong about the problem. What procedure can I try to "restart" the wifi connection?
[09:58] <titanix88_> Andrew``:ohh!they were commands!
[09:58] <Andrew``> yes I know.. typed them in a konsole
[09:58] <smithw> Andrew``, is Adept or another package manager running?
[09:59] <Andrew``> ahh ok.. yes it was..now closed
[09:59] <Andrew``> will try agan
[09:59] <titanix88_> Andrew``: anyother package managerlike Adept running?then close it.Or just install nvidia-glx from ADEEPT:)
[09:59] <computer> hm kubuntu just informed me that a newer version of kubuntu is available and asked whether i want to install it, is this feisty or an update from 2.6.17 kernet to like a 2.6.20 one
[10:00] <titanix88_> computer: what disto (Dapper/Edgy)?
[10:01] <computer> titanix88 right now using edgy
[10:01] <titanix88_> Andrew``: installed it?
[10:02] <titanix88_> computer: then it's feisty.
[10:02] <computer> titanix88 cool thx
[10:02] <computer> does feisty have a new look?
[10:02] <computer> new desktop look
[10:02] <rdallarmi> Hi, I am setting up a mailserver based on feisty. I want to give imap access, but I find this error on the log: server imapd: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/fam-- enybody knows what this is about?
[10:02] <titanix88_> computer :maybe.
[10:03] <computer> ok =)
[10:03] <arunkale> I know this is a bit off topic, but anyone know php here? i need help with a simple script...
[10:03] <fdoving> rdallarmi: what kind of imap server?
[10:03] <Andrew``> titanix88 yes its installed.. now do I need to reboot?
[10:03] <rdallarmi> courier imap
[10:04] <titanix88_> computer: i don't use feisty(me good old upgraded dapper) but every ubuntu comes with some new look! :)
[10:04] <rdallarmi> imap works it is just damn slow
[10:05] <titanix88_> Andrew``: no.just "sudo nvidia-xconfig" & ctrl+Alt+backspace to restart Xserver .No restart.
[10:05] <computer> titanix88_ yeah i didn't mean ok in any sarcastic way at all =), there's much reason behind any thoughtful maybies =)
[10:06] <titanix88_> computer : u got it =)
[10:06] <Darkkish> Can I use an RPM file?
[10:06] <smithw> Darkkish, if you convert it to deb first with alien, yes.
[10:07] <titanix88_> Darkkish: u can convert it to .deb with alien.
[10:07] <smithw> Darkkish, although it might have some compatibility issues.
[10:07] <Darkkish> oh
[10:07] <titanix88_> Andrew'' : working?
[10:08] <Andrew``> ok.. now where do I configure my card
[10:08] <Darkkish> what about sudo apt-get install rpm
[10:08] <Andrew``> nvidia splash screen came up
[10:08] <titanix88_> "nvidia-settings" though it is not permanent by default.
[10:09] <smithw> Darkkish, I never tried that, but I'd be afraid of messing with the system. If you're a skilled sysadmin, go ahead, though.
[10:09] <mo0osah> I just got everything working exactly the way I like it.  What are some good alternatives to back everything up
[10:10] <titanix88_> Darkkish: installing alien will also install rpm. but never install with rpm. it will create extra independent packaging system
[10:10] <smithw> titanix88_, Darkkish, it also may result on a "dependence nightmare".
[10:11] <titanix88_> Andrew``: u can stop the splash showing up everytime by"sudo nvidia-xconfig --no-logo"
[10:11] <makuseru> !fglrx
[10:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:12] <titanix88_> smithw: i find sometimes packages don't convert wll without --scripts flag
[10:13] <titanix88_> Andrew``: satisfied?
[10:13] <smithw> titanix88_, I've never seen that... in fact, I avoid alien as much as possible. After all, there's not much you can't find in deb, source or binary tarball form these days...
[10:14] <Andrew``> ok now i have 1280x1024 coooool!!!
[10:14] <Darkkish> lol mine was running that when i started... idk why
[10:15] <titanix88_> Darkkish: i don't get it 0_.
[10:15] <smithw> titanix88_, and it's nothing I can reason about, but I seem to think all RPM's are somewhat flawed. Probably bad memories from my Red Hat days...
[10:15] <Darkkish> nvm
[10:15] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[10:16] <titanix88_> bye everyone it's lunchtime.
[10:16] <MilhousePunkRock> I want to "pimp" my Konqueror a little so I can forget about Firefox... 1. How do I enable "Opera-style" mouse gestures? They seem to be activated in KControl, but don't work... :-/
[10:16] <titanix88_> Ofcourse in mytimeZone!(2.15pm)
[10:17] <Darkkish> MilhousePunkRock: why do you want to "forget about firefox"
[10:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Darkkish: Even with Gtk-Qt-theme (or whatever that was called), it does not integrate properly into my KDE enviroment. And lately I had the feeling it gets awfully slow with more than 5 tabs open...
[10:20] <smithw> any thoughts on my previous wifi question, anyone?
[10:20] <MilhousePunkRock> smithw: Can you ask again, I wasn't there when you first asked...
[10:20] <premier_> smithw: whats the problem?
[10:21] <smithw> Wifi connects ok to a router computer, but when that computer has to be restarted, I can't bring up the connection back. Also, route tables go bye bye...
[10:22] <smithw> I have to restart Kubuntu also to make it connect again.
[10:22] <smithw> also = too
[10:23] <smithw> I can detail the situation further, if needed.
[10:24] <MilhousePunkRock> smithw: Are you using DHCP?
[10:24] <smithw> MilhousePunkRock, nope, static IP.
[10:24] <MilhousePunkRock> smithw: Because in that case, you get a new IP from the router when you restart it. But your client doesn't notice
[10:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Oh, too bad. Sounded just like it...
[10:25] <smithw> :(
[10:26] <MilhousePunkRock> I never restart my router, since it is a real router, so I can't say much about it..
[10:26] <khkhdfjald> Is this tech support 101
[10:26] <thirdy> wat the most complete dvd codec package?
[10:26] <thirdy> can't play my dvd
[10:27] <MilhousePunkRock> !multimedia > thirdy
[10:27] <smithw> MilhousePunkRock, in fact, I don't have a router, I just have two computers and a DSL modem. So one of them has to route for the other, and I chose the MacMini to do that just because it's more silent, haha.
[10:27] <khkhdfjald> ls
[10:27] <khkhdfjald> Im getting a mac mini in two weeks
[10:28] <thirdy> No plugin found to handle this resource
[10:29] <thirdy> xine: couldn't find demux for>dvd:///dev/hdb
[10:29] <smithw> khkhdfjald, in my personal experience, it was totally worth it. Though I haven't had the nerve to try and install any linux distro on it yet.
[10:29] <thirdy> !demux
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about demux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <khkhdfjald> I want to run OSX natively
[10:30] <smithw> thirdy, to play dvd's on *ubuntu, I think you only choice is libdvdcss. Although it may be illegal on your country, you should check it first.
[10:30] <tmbg> !codecs | thirdy
[10:30] <ubotu> thirdy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:31] <khkhdfjald> as long as I have bash. I'm totally happy
[10:31] <smithw> khkhdfjald, I spent a whole weekend on that, but I managed to compile KDE to run on Apple's X server, haha...
[10:33] <khkhdfjald> smith, humm that sounds painfull. I still haven't recovered from when I complied Fluxbox from source
[10:35] <Tony_B> indeed
[10:36] <smithw> khkhdfjald, compiling itself wasn't that painful, was just time-consuming. The real problem was that macports (third-party *nix tools packaging system that compiles everything from source) had some tarballs' addresses that didn't work. so everytime I had to stop the downloading, download it myself, put it in the right place and restart everything again. when it came to the compilation, it was just the wait.
[10:36] <smithw> also, on that time my broadband was just 512k.
[10:37] <Tony_B> ls
[10:41] <makuseru> ation
[10:43] <thirdy_> ok, this is getting annoying, I'll just get vcl
[10:47] <tmbg> thirdy_, vlc is nice, you'll like it
[10:47] <staniol> ciao
[10:50] <muesli> hey guys
[10:50] <muesli> is mouse support in kde broken since 3.5.4 or so?
[10:50] <muesli> it's getting pretty annoying recently, upto 3.5.7 where it's pretty unusable
[10:50] <muesli> clicking a link in konqueror starts a drag operation, e.g.
[10:50] <Lynoure> muesli: broken it what way? I have not noticed anything on 3.5.6
[10:50] <muesli> middle click doesn't work to open a tab anymore
[10:50] <pawitp> Mouse support!?
[10:51] <muesli> middle click doesn't copy / paste anymore
[10:51] <muesli> http://www.chris.de/drag.png
[10:51] <muesli> that's what happens when i click a link in konqui and move the mouse
[10:51] <muesli> note: konqui ain't frozen, i just need to press escape now
[10:51] <muesli> yet, not being able to click links / middle links anymore is pretty annoying obviously
[10:52] <zach> Greets, everyone...
[10:52] <muesli> s/middle links/middle click
[10:52] <muesli> zach: greets
[10:52] <pawitp> Try reverting your mouse settings to default
[10:53] <muesli> funny thing so: it's only in kde apps
[10:53] <muesli> firefox works fine
[10:53] <muesli> could also be qt then, of course
[10:53] <pawitp> Could be KDE's mouse setting
[10:53] <muesli> also, all drag operations have to be finished by pressing escape
[10:53] <muesli> even if they were successful
[10:53] <muesli> otherwise i can't click or type anything anymore
[10:53] <Tony_B> ls
[10:54] <muesli> pawitp: i reverted that stuff to default a million times by now, yeah :( didn't help
[10:54] <thirdy__> Wats next to VLC?
[10:54] <blekos> hi, is there any tool for linux to surf anonymously?
[10:54] <muesli> pawitp: i even wiped my entire .kde a few times just to find a solution
[10:54] <pawitp> muesli boot the live cd and see if it works
[10:54] <zach> I'm having some trouble playing an .ogg file I recorded with gtk-recordMyDesktop. I already checked the file on another computer and it plays fine; compared the installed packages on both machines and I'm pretty sure all the relevant ones are installed on each one. Any ideas?
[10:55] <pawitp> zach what error?
[10:55] <tmbg> blekos, privoxy/tor
[10:55] <zach> The video "plays" in Kaffeine, but it's 100% blue.
[10:55] <zach> It shows up perfectly fine on my other machine
[10:56] <pawitp> try running kaffeine from the commandline and open the video, and paste the output
[10:56] <blekos> i'll google both thnx
[10:56] <pawitp> !paste|zach
[10:56] <ubotu> zach: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:56] <huashuai> is there any good newsgroup client in kubuntu?
[10:57] <pawitp> !find nttp
[10:57] <ubotu> Package/file nttp does not exist in feisty
[10:57] <pawitp> !find nntp
[10:57] <ubotu> Found: cyrus-nntpd-2.2, libnews-nntpclient-perl, nntp, openntpd, phpgroupware-nntp
[10:57] <zach> pawitp: Thanks, one sec...
[10:57] <pawitp> not so helpful
[10:58] <zach> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23851/
[10:58] <zach> It repeats that several times/second until the video stops.
[10:59] <tmbg> huashuai, I haven't found any I like, but Xnews works in WINE
[10:59] <zach> Shoot, sorry, missed one line that shows once at the beginning: "QLayout "unnamed" added to QWidget "unnamed", which already has a layout"
[11:00] <pawitp> zach: That line always show
[11:00] <zach> The one I just said, or the ones in the pastebin?
[11:00] <pawitp> zach: Can you give me your system spec?
[11:01] <pawitp> and the output of 'free'
[11:01] <zach> 512MB/1.4 Celeron M/Intel 915GM onboard video
[11:01] <pawitp> 512MB should be enough ram
[11:02] <pawitp> zach: And the spec of the other system?
[11:02] <zach> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23852/
[11:02] <zach> The other one has the same amount of RAM, a 2.0 P4, and onboard ATI
[11:03] <pawitp> 915M onboard video doesn't has enough memory then, paste your xorg.conf please
[11:04] <zach> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23854/
[11:04] <pawitp> I'll post a correction to that
[11:05] <zach> The fact that Beryl performs 10x better on this one (the one with the problem) than on the ATI one (which plays it fine) would be irrelevant, I assume?
[11:05] <zach> I'm just wondering since we're guessing it's a VRAM issue.
[11:06] <pawitp> zach: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23855/
[11:06] <pawitp> zach: linux doesn't play well with ati anyway
[11:07] <zach> I know. That's why I'm confused. -_~
[11:07] <pawitp> Zach: try the xorg.conf I posted
[11:07] <zach> So that's giving what, 64MB of system RAM exclusively to the video card?
[11:08] <pawitp> You have to give ram to the video card
[11:08] <zach> I know pretty much nothing about how system RAM gets divided up between the card and other applications?
[11:08] <zach> That's cool, I'll try it. BRB
[11:08] <flowingfire> Recompile your freetype library with the patented stuff enabled
[11:08] <flowingfire> Is there a way to do it?
[11:09] <zach> Those two lines under device are all that changed?
[11:09] <flowingfire> Hello everybody.  I was told that you can recompile your freetype library with patented stuff enabled so your text rendering looks just as good as Mac or Windows.  Does anybody know how to do this?
[11:10] <pawitp> zach: Yes
[11:10] <smithw> flowingfire: I know nothing about recompiling freetype library, but I've seen a tutorial on the internet that gives the same effect without compiling anything.
[11:10] <zach> BRB
[11:10] <smithw> Although it was meand for edgy...
[11:11] <smithw> I have it bookmarked on my work computer, but not here...
[11:11] <flowingfire> Smithw: Really?  I've followed all sorts of guides and taken their advice... I still think my text rendering is lousy lol... freetype must be updated!
[11:11] <smithw> I'll see if I can find it again.
[11:11] <flowingfire> kewl
[11:12] <smithw> flowingfire: http://jaganath.wordpress.com/2006/07/16/ubuntu-install-log-6-finally-os-x-like-font-rendering-in-linux/
[11:12] <flowingfire> thanks smithw
[11:12] <flowingfire> ... checking
[11:13] <smithw> ... but nothing for feisty there. and there's some ubuntu-only instructions also...
[11:13] <zach> pawitp: That got it. Thanks a lot! :D
[11:14] <zach> <Feels stupid for not looking for running from the terminal first>
[11:14] <flowingfire> suppose the same directions will work for Feisty?
[11:16] <smithw> flowingfire: probably. but on the part you have to install some binaries, take a look at this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343670
[11:16] <flowingfire> k
[11:16] <zach> pawitp: Giving that 64MB to the videocard should theoretically have a positive impact on Beryl's performance as well, right?
[11:16] <titanix88> smithw:what about?
[11:16] <pawitp> zach: I don't use Beryl unfortunately
[11:17] <pawitp> zach: But hardware accelerated stuff rely more on CPU and not ram
[11:17] <zach> Ohh ok. That answers it. Thanks.
[11:17] <flowingfire> zach: How are you giving RAM to video card? What exactly are you doing? (because I want to do it, lol)
[11:18] <zach> flowingfire: What kind of card do you have?
[11:18] <flowingfire> Zach: Nvidia, and it poops out and gives me black boxes instead of windows after a while...  I assume it's just out of ram and the driver is badly written or something.
[11:18] <zach> Because you should only do that if it's an onboard card, right, pawitp?
[11:18] <flowingfire> so more ram to the card might solve it
[11:19] <pawitp> zach: and I never used(read: own) an onboard card before
[11:19] <flowingfire> zach: It's a PCI card, not a motherboard thing I think...
[11:19] <smithw> titanix88: non-native English speaker here, what does "what about" mean?
[11:20] <pawitp> zach: But using that on a non-onboard card actually specifies how much memory it has.
[11:20] <zach> Oh ok. Well, I remember when doing "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", when it gave the option to give a certain amount of RAM to the card, it said you should only do so if your card doesn't have any dedicated memory of its own. Is it safe to ignore that in the case of having a PCI card?
[11:20] <pawitp> zach: Yes
[11:21] <flowingfire> that's good enws
[11:21] <pawitp> zach: and it's probably a PCI-E card
[11:21] <flowingfire> news
[11:21] <titanix88> smithw: what r u talking about.Never mind , yesterday i got flamed by a pure british.
[11:22] <flowingfire> so wait--- you have to do a xorg reconfiguration to give your card more ram?  uggh.  i have my xorg set up so nicely though! lol
[11:23] <zach> pawitp: So, assuming the card has memory of its own, placing those lines you added to my xorg.conf will just add to that memory, right? As opposed to limit its total memory to that?
[11:23] <zach> flowingfire: It's as simple as adding two lines to the device section. ;-)
[11:24] <flowingfire> Oh wow... Can u paste-bin for me?
[11:24] <zach> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23855/
[11:24] <flowingfire> thx. :)
[11:24] <zach> flowingfire: But I'd wait for pawitp's answer to my last question before trying anything.
[11:24] <smithw> titanix88: ah... thanks! that was about improving font rendering on linux. and I think in international channels like this people should be more understanding of language errors... it's not like we're on #shakespeare or anything...
[11:24] <pawitp> zach: I'm not sure, but PCI-E card should not use system memory
[11:25] <toolej> oh hey
[11:25] <toolej> wait, never mind, it loaded
[11:26] <zach> pawitp: Sorry, stupid question, I guess, given you already said you never used an onboard card.
[11:26] <titanix88> smithw : i didn't know there is such(i should have asumed though). Err, someone will tell both of us to go offtopic...
[11:27] <pawitp> zach: I always use low-end graphic cards and see that it always has enough memory
[11:27] <titanix88> pawitp: graphics engine is more important than memory. I bet.
[11:28] <pawitp> titanix88: It is more important, but it is also important to have enough memory to use
[11:28] <bleepbloop> I am using i810 drivers currently but my device is 915GM. Intellinuxgraphics.com states that the "i810" name is deprecated and should be replaced with "intel" however this prevents x11 from starting. Is there another name for this driver?
[11:29] <zach> On a completely different subject, does anyone know of a good, easy-to-install macro program that has a GUI? My cousin's just starting out on Linux-- I showed him xmacro but I don't think he's ready for a command line-only program like that quite yet. :-\
[11:29] <smithw> titanix88: yeah, probably... anyway, take a look at this http://jaganath.wordpress.com/2006/07/16/ubuntu-install-log-6-finally-os-x-like-font-rendering-in-linux/ and this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343670, if you're interested.
[11:29] <flowingfire> If I add those lines you guys were talking about and I want to give my card 400 MB of ram, would I just change the value of that line-- "VideoRam" "400000"... Do anything to cachelines?
[11:29] <toolej> Issue: A couple months back, I couldn't get XGL working because I couldn't get anything other than the mesa openGL driver working despite installing the ati package
[11:29] <smithw> It worked for me on edgy (which I have on my work), and the thread at ubuntu forums provides the binaries for feisty.
[11:29] <zach> flowingfire: Is your card PCI-Express?
[11:30] <toolej> apparently this was because my graphics card (x1650pro) was unsupported
[11:30] <flowingfire> How can I find out, Zach?
[11:30] <titanix88> flowingfire : don't be crazy to do that :)
[11:31] <zach> Umm... Does "lspci" indicate whether something's PCI-Express or not?
[11:31] <flowingfire> I have the ram to spare lol
[11:32] <zach> flowingfire: How much RAM do you have? You might want to check the output of "free" and/or "top" before going and relegating chunk that huge exclusively to video.
[11:33] <flowingfire> Well, I have 2 gigs right now only, but I plan on putting 2 more in
[11:33] <flowingfire> and i never use it all
[11:33] <titanix88> flowingfire: gift me someof that i got only 256. lol
[11:33] <zach> lol
[11:34] <flowingfire> hehe... titanix88, try sudo apt-get install more damn ram
[11:34] <flowingfire> j/k
[11:34] <pawitp> zach: linux always try to use ram, so free doesn't give the minimal amout of ram linux have to use
[11:34] <zach> Right. I just learned about that today.
[11:34] <zach> RAM not in use is RAM wasted.
[11:35] <pawitp> flowingfire: What card/driver are you using?
[11:35] <flowingfire> nvidia Geforce 6150 LE... and it really sucks on linux.
[11:35] <flowingfire> bad drivers I think
[11:36] <zach> So no one knows of a decent macro program for Linux (i.e., something that can automate a recorded set of mouseclicks and keyboard strokes)?
[11:36] <oliver_> hi, i need help fixing a boot problem (Feisty Final), can someone help please ?
[11:36] <zach> flowingfire: Which driver are you using?
[11:36] <smithw> flowingfire: I might be wrong, but theoretically nvidia's proprietary drivers are the best ones for linux...
[11:36] <muesli> Riddell: Bug #118470 it is
[11:36] <titanix88> flowingfire: r u crazy to share ur ram with a non integreted graphics board ???!!!
[11:36] <zach> smithw: From everything I've experienced/read, that's accurate.
[11:37] <titanix88> flowingfire : installed nvidia-glx?
[11:37] <zach> flowingfire: Try nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-new, and nvidia-glx-legacy.
[11:37] <pawitp> I don't actually thinks that sharing ram to non-integrated card is possible
[11:37] <flowingfire> Everybody-- I actually have the proprietary nvidia-glx-new driver because it is the only one that works correctly
[11:37] <zach> Ohh ok.
[11:37] <titanix88> zach: it should be in nvidia-glx only.
[11:38] <zach> flowingfire: How often do you get the black window bug?
[11:38] <flowingfire> Every time I'm on my computer for more the ten minutes and have several windows open
[11:38] <titanix88> flowingfire: did u configure it properly?
[11:38] <zach> titanix88: Oh alright. I assumed that was what he was using and figured he might have better luck with one of the others. My mistake.
[11:38] <flowingfire> I can fix the problem by changing to xgl rendering and piximap crap.
[11:38] <flowingfire> but that's not a great solution, imho
[11:39] <zach> flowingfire: How much VRAM does the card have, and what are you doing when you start getting black windows?
[11:39] <njt88> hello everyone
[11:39] <zach> njt88: Greets
[11:40] <flowingfire> Mostly firefox gets black-windowed, but no application is exempt... It's when I surf the web, and open too many browser windows or tabs...
[11:40] <njt88> on every boot i need to sudo iwconfig wlan0 key open  --->  sudo dhclient   otherwise my wifi doesnt connect
[11:40] <flowingfire> How do I check vram... I think it might be 128 or something..
[11:40] <njt88> also, it doesnt show up in knetwork manager even when i have a good connection
[11:40] <zach> Hmm
[11:40] <njt88> odd hey?
[11:40] <computer> is there (and what is) the command to see what version of nvidia driver i'm using?
[11:41] <pawitp> computer: glxinfo
[11:41] <pawitp> compute: ignore that
[11:41] <smithw> njt88: having had wifi problems myself, I just gave up knetworkmanager and wrote a startup bash script to handle wifi connection...
[11:41] <computer> ok hehe
[11:41] <njt88> yet if i go to system settings > netowrking  it is there
[11:41] <njt88> smithw: yeah, i think its a bit unreliable atm isnt it...
[11:41] <computer> also is there a command to get the nvidia gear running
[11:42] <computer> !pastebin
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[11:42] <zach> Well, I'm running on an nVidia 7600GS 256MB, and I've only seen the black window bug twice in over 5 months of heavy use (e.g., multiple GIMP projects open at once, along with Firefox, Konqueror, etc.).
[11:42] <njt88> whats the easiest way to add startup progs in kubuntu btw?
[11:42] <flowingfire> zach: You're lucky.  The black window bug is completely unavoidable on a use-by-use basis for me.
[11:42] <titanix88>  flowingfire "nvidia-settings" first tab
[11:42] <zach> njt88: Drag and drop the shortcut to the program from the KMenu to ~/.kde/Autostart
[11:42] <smithw> njt88: I just put them in /etc/init.d and link to them on /etc/rcX.d...
[11:43] <pawitp> What is the black windows bug anyway?
[11:43] <njt88> cool ok
[11:43] <flowingfire> titanix88: thx-- I just opened nvidia-settings
[11:43] <smithw> njt88: or you can do as zach said, but that's only executed when you log in.
[11:43] <zach> smithw: Is there any benefit to doing it that way over the Autostart folder?
[11:43] <zach> Oh ok
[11:44] <flowingfire> pawitp: The black windows bug causes windows not to render, but just to display a big black box where the window should be.  It usually happens with Beryl installed and on low-RAM video cards.
[11:44] <smithw> zach: but you can put it on /usr/share/autostart either. however I don't know if it get's started only when some user log in or when the X server get started.
[11:44] <titanix88> flowingfire: np :)
[11:44] <computer> wow since we talking bout beryl here, hehe, i had these error msgs at start up, any fix come to mind? : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23859/
[11:44] <smithw> zach, njt88: but if you want something to start independently from the x server, rc2.d is your way to go.
[11:44] <zach> smithw: Say I have a script I want to execute and stay running regardless of whether I'm logged in or if I restart X (i.e., the script that serves MP3's to an XBox 360 on the network). Would placing a link to it in /etc/init.d do the job?
[11:45] <zach> smithw: They only start upon logging in with the method I suggested.
[11:45] <njt88> zach: so if i want to sudo iwconfig wlan0 key open  and then  sudo dhclient  on every boot without needing to put in the password, how can i do that?
[11:45] <pawitp> flowingfire I don't know about 6150 LE, but 6150 is an integrated chip
[11:45] <zach> njt88: Sorry, not sure. smithw seems more knowledgable on that than myself. ;-)
[11:45] <smithw> zach: not exactly... you would put the script itself on /etc/init.d (convention) and a link to it on /etc/rc2.d (runlevel 2)
[11:45] <flowingfire> Hmm... Maybe it is integrated... bhel
[11:46] <flowingfire> I know I have a video card installed in the PCI slot, but the way it was built is confusing.. maybe that's the TV tuner .. ?
[11:46] <zach> smithw: And as for having to enter the password for stuff that requires root permissions?
[11:46] <njt88> ummmm    heh - smithw:  sorta following that...
[11:46] <zach> flowingfire: do "lspci" from a terminal. Have a look at the output. If you're still not sure, pastebin it. :-)
[11:47] <smithw> zach: you can only write to rcX.d and init.d if you are root, since everything there is executed with root permissions
[11:47] <zach> smithw: Ohh ok. Got it.
[11:47] <zach> njt88: Get all that?
[11:47] <njt88> its a pain in the but but the device seems to default to restricted mode and wont allow for a connection
[11:47] <njt88> so no need for sudo in the there then smithw?
[11:47] <blekos> is there any amarok alternative?
[11:47] <smithw> njt88: in short: put your script into /etc/init.d with no sudos and a link to it on /etc/rc2.d
[11:47] <zach> njt88: What's it doing, exactly? Does it try to connect and hang at 28%? (That's the problem I keep running into with wireless.)
[11:48] <njt88> zach: it doesnt show on knetwork manager at all
[11:48] <zach> blekos: Why would you want an alternative to the best MP3 player known to man? :-P
[11:49] <zach> blekos: I've heard good things about Banshee, although I never could get it to run. Exaile's trying to do for GNOME what Amarok does for KDE, although I haven't checked it out.
[11:49] <njt88> zach: well, it did.  but it didnt work.  so i used ndiswrapper, and now it shows up in iwconfig and ifconfig -a  but not in the knetwork manager.  also shows up as wlan0 in network under system settings
[11:49] <blekos> :) 1. it is a bit slow when i search for a song in my question and 2. smg wrong with keep my collection k
[11:49] <flowingfire> Heh-- just checked 256 ram on the card... I don't know what to make of this output though: see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23860/
[11:49] <fdoving> blekos: there are audacious and beep-media-player if you want winamp 2.x like alternatives.
[11:49] <smithw> njt88: also, do a ls -lah on /etc/rc2.d before naming the link. the scripts on this directory are executed on alphabetical order, so there's a SXX naming convention to specify the order of execution.
[11:49] <njt88> zach: but yes, it was hanging at 28% b4 ndiswrapper
[11:51] <zach> njt88: How hard was it to set up the driver in ndiswrapper? It looks like that might be the route I have to take.
[11:51] <njt88> zach dead easy
[11:51] <zach> njt88: Did you use the GTK frontend, or just do everything from the terminal?
[11:51] <njt88> i just installed ndiswrapper and did it all cli
[11:52] <njt88> zach: the front end did *not* work
[11:52] <zach> flowingfire: Sorry, not quite sure what to make of that, aside from that your card is indeed PCI-Express.
[11:52] <blekos> for some reason not all my mp3s are in the database
[11:52] <smithw> I wonder what's it with frontends in linux that almost always have trouble to work...
[11:52] <pawitp> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge
[11:52] <blekos> i did update & rescan but no luck
[11:52] <zach> flowingfire: ...which, based on what everyone in here is saying, means you don't want to try giving system memory to it.
[11:53] <pawitp> flowingfire: What's your mainboard?
[11:53] <flowingfire> pawitp: I'm not expert enough to be able to tell ya
[11:53] <pawitp> flowingfire: I suggest that it's an onboard
[11:54] <zach> Well, I'm heading off. njt88 and pawitp, thanks a lot for the info. Good night/good luck, everyone.
[11:54] <pawitp> C51 is an integrated chipset
[11:54] <njt88> zach: cya and thx!
[11:54] <flowingfire> ohhh ok
[11:54] <flowingfire> grrr lol
[11:55] <pawitp> flowingfire: The best way is too set the AGP Aperture in the BIOS
[11:56] <flowingfire> Hmm . . . Ok
[11:56] <flowingfire> Gawd I love Kubuntu hehe
[11:56] <pawitp> flowingfire: But that's AGP
[11:56] <pawitp> flowingfire: I'm not sure, but try that first
[11:57] <flowingfire> that might solve the black-box bug?
[11:57] <pawitp> flowingfire: Yes, or configure X
[11:57] <pawitp> Set VideoRAM to 262144
[11:58] <flowingfire> Ok... I'll reboot and be back in a minute.... thanks.
[12:04] <computer> my cpu is supposed to be 3ghz, but on cat /proc/cpuinfo, it shows as two 1ghz cpu, is that normal?
[12:04] <pawitp> computer: What's your cpu?
[12:04] <crimsun> that's likely its base cpufreq
[12:04] <sebbar_> hi, are the specs for gutsy already out?
[12:05] <pawitp> computer: What's the model?
[12:05] <njt88> smithw: I cant seem to be able to figure out how to make the link :s this is what i tried
[12:05] <njt88> sudo ln -T /etc/init.d/wifiOpen /etc/rc2.d/S40wifiOpen
[12:05] <njt88> but it is different from the rest
[12:05] <smithw> ln -s
[12:06] <njt88> urffff
[12:06] <computer> pawitp finding out those info, 1 sec
[12:06] <njt88> smithw: sorry.... my bad  :P
[12:06] <njt88> got it.
[12:06] <smithw> I always forget the order of ln, if it's link name or target first. every single time I have to make a link I must do a man ln, haha...
[12:06] <njt88> now for a reboot to see how things go
[12:06] <njt88> brb#
[12:07] <computer> pawitp cpu family: 6, model: 14, model name: genuine intel cpu... if these help
[12:07] <flowingfire> Hi. :) I actually didn't see an AGP aperture setting anywhere in the bios... But I did find a setting that showed my primary video card as PCI, and I switched it to onboard... no noticable result though....
[12:07] <pawitp> computer: That doesn't help
[12:08] <pawitp> flowingfire: It's probably not AGP Aperture setting but something that allows you to set 32, 64 ,128, 256MB or something
[12:08] <flowingfire> didn't see anything like that either... sorry :(
[12:08] <pawitp> flowingfire: Try editing xorg.conf then
[12:08] <llutz> computer: sudo dmidecode |grep -i cpu
[12:09] <flowingfire> good ol xorg.conf... how many times have I screwed with thee and had to dpkg reconfigure thee!
[12:09] <flowingfire> i have a love/hate relationship with xorg, ya know... kinda like with Ubotu...
[12:10] <flowingfire> Hey UBOTU!!! Your fly is showing!
[12:10] <njt88> smithw: cool.  100%  :D:D
[12:10] <njt88> smithw: thx for that dude
[12:10] <flowingfire> !life
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <smithw> smithw: you're welcome...
[12:10] <flowingfire> !hygiene
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hygiene - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <smithw> hahaha
[12:11] <smithw> sorry.
[12:11] <njt88> :P
[12:12] <njt88> !ubuntueffects
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntueffects - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <njt88> !ubuntu-effects
[12:12] <ubotu> For help with 3d desktop effects applications or drivers please join #ubuntu-effects, someone there will be glad to help you. You can read http://forum.beryl-project.org/ for most common problems or questions.
[12:13] <computer> pawitp srry had closed irc accidentally earlier, did the cpu info help? (was asking about whether it's normal to have two 1 ghz processors when my cpu is supposed to be 3ghz)
[12:14] <pawitp> computer: You're telling me some generic stuff
[12:14] <computer> pawitp yeah that's what i was afraid of lol
[12:14] <pawitp> computer: I need the model
[12:15] <computer> pawitp is there some command that shows my cpu model, i'm on kubuntu edgy, i used cat /proc/cpuinfo but that didn't give me anything useful, all generic info with that
[12:15] <flowingfire> Okay... I just edited xorg.conf and will ctrl-alt-backspace the x-server... wish me luck.....
[12:15] <flowingfire> or a few minutes of retrieving a backup with ensue
[12:15] <computer> !pastebin
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[12:15] <smithw> njt88: http://www.nongnu.org/lpi-manuals/lpi-102/html/ch02s02.html <- according to this, both you and me should put the wireless startup script on rc3.d, and not on rc2.d...
[12:15] <flowingfire> GERANAMOO!!!!!!
[12:16] <pawitp> computer: Sorry, you may try to ask someone else
[12:17] <Andrew``> what do I type to get to the root dir in Konsole?
[12:17] <pawitp> Andrew``: cd /
[12:17] <computer> pawitp yeah thx alot for trying tho, that was a pretty generic question i asked =)
[12:18] <llutz> computer: sudo dmidecode |grep -A 18 "Processor Information"
[12:19] <flowingfire> Well, on a bright note, my xorg.conf and my x-server are working properly.  On a sore note, I just tested it and the black box bug is STILL HAPPENING.... lol and argh.
[12:19] <computer> llutz thx, trying that out
[12:19] <computer> testing something else
[12:19] <computer> !baddevice
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[12:19] <flowingfire> !black boxes
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about black boxes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <virusavirusa> can u help me with hacking?
[12:20] <pawitp> !blackbox
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blackbox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <pawitp> On a very different thing
[12:21] <pawitp> !info blackbox
[12:21] <ubotu> blackbox: Window manager for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.70.1-1.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 251 kB, installed size 768 kB
[12:21] <computer> !pastebin
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[12:22] <computer> thx llutz, that worked =)
[12:22] <Andrew``> why does a folder show up in konqueror, but not via konsole?
[12:23] <smithw> Andrew``: are these folder which name starts with a dot?
[12:23] <computer> pawitp there's a bit more info provided in: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23865/, not sure if this is enough, but much better than b4
[12:23] <Andrew``> smithw: nope
[12:23] <computer> thx for looking it over
[12:23] <Andrew``> it has a dot IN it
[12:23] <Andrew``> but not beginnjing with
[12:24] <smithw> Andrew``: which folder specifically are you talking about?
[12:24] <flowingfire> thanks for all the help everyone... gnite for now. :)
[12:27] <smithw> computer: I'm not exactly following you conversation, but I recall your CPU should be 3.0GHz... I don't think there even is a Core 2 Duo with 3.0Ghz...
[12:27] <pawitp> That's why I need the model
[12:27] <computer> ah yeah cool
[12:28] <smithw> pawitp: he just pasted, it's intel t2400, which (I guess) is core 2 duo meron.
[12:28] <computer> okies, srry for the random question, i'm pretty sure everythings in order, i was mildy curious =) srry for the trouble
[12:28] <computer> thx smithw too =)
[12:28] <llutz> t2400 is core-duo with 1.8GHz
[12:29] <smithw> it's conroe, sorry.
[12:29] <computer> ic, so everything's normal right
[12:31] <Andrew``> smithw: the tcl1.50 folder in amsn
[12:31] <Andrew``> oops
[12:32] <Andrew``> in usr/lib
[12:32] <njt88> smithw: hmmmm... well, it is now not broke.... should i fix it???
[12:33] <smithw> Andrew``: I don't think it's going to help, but try ls -lah tcl*. I'd usually trust more ls than Konqueror, though.
[12:33] <smithw> njt88: it broke when you put it into rc3.d?
[12:34] <smithw> njt88: or did it "just don't work(c)"?
[12:34] <hyuma> hello
[12:35] <jeanvargant> ciao a tutti!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:37] <smithw> njt88: sorry, I misread your question... don't bother fixing it. weirdly, when I type runlevel on konsole it reports runlevel 2 (?!?! should be 5!)... so, don't run the risk.
[12:40] <pawitp> smithw: Ubuntu does not run on runlevel 5
[12:41] <smithw> pawitp: any specific reason why?
[12:42] <smithw> or are just those old runlevel specifications deprecated?
[12:45] <makuseru> !ati
[12:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:49] <Andrew``> ok how do I use kate or kwite without root password access???
[12:49] <Andrew``> I amuse do having root password
[12:50] <Andrew``> I am used to having root passwords
[12:51] <smithw> Andrew``: don't use root password unless specifically needed and you know what you're doing. you can open a root kate/kwrite on kde by typing alt+f2 and then typing kdesu kate (or kwrite)
[12:55] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[12:56] <virusavirusa> hydraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:59] <jf_> newbie i can't see videos cause flash install fails
[01:00] <BluesKaj> jf_: on feisty ? how are you installing it ?
[01:02] <jf_> well when i try to play the video appears the warning you do not have the plug in i click on it to aotomatic install but it says install fails then i try manually i download but when i click open file to install nothing happen
[01:04] <adi> hi guys can someone tell me how to mount a usb device so i can wr it on windows i mean  on windows the file system is FAT but if i mount the device with the -t vfat filesystem all files that i copy to that udb device cannot be seen in windows any suggestions?
[01:04] <jf_> now is working i got :)
[01:04] <cox377> can anyone recommend a terminal based bandwidth monitor that will show week / month stats?
[01:05] <tahsin> how do i stop amarok from starting whenever i start linux ?
[01:06] <cox377> tahsin: look under sessions and it should be in start up,
[01:06] <adi> hi guys can someone tell me how to mount a usb device so i can wr it on windows i mean  on windows the file system is FAT but if i mount the device with the -t vfat filesystem all files that i copy to that udb device cannot be seen in windows any suggestions?
[01:06] <tahsin> cox3777: how do i look under session ?
[01:08] <tahsin> cox377: how do i look under session ?
[01:08] <BluesKaj> adi, boot into windows and check there
[01:09] <adi> i did its fat
[01:09] <BluesKaj> tahsin:  at the login scrn
[01:09] <tahsin> ok
[01:09] <BluesKaj> and the files are readable , adi ?
[01:12] <tahsin> i couldnt find anything more than KDE,Default,Failsafe under session
[01:12] <adi> if i mount the usb device with the -t vfat copy a file then boot into windows i cnnot see the file i copied from linux
[01:13] <BluesKaj> tahsin:  check the kmenu , lock session
[01:14] <BluesKaj> adi , maybe you should have the vfat app on the usb device as well
[01:14] <adi> what do you mean by the vfat app?
[01:14] <tahsin> BluesKaj: My problem is ...amarok always start whenever i start kubuntu...i want to stop it ...so how ?
[01:15] <smithw> tahsin: are you familiar with the terminal?
[01:15] <jf_> my password do not work in terminal
[01:15] <BluesKaj> the app that enables to read write to a fat32 fs
[01:15] <smithw> jf_: tty or konsole?
[01:16] <tahsin> smithw: i always try to avoid terminal
[01:16] <tahsin> smithw: still im familiar
[01:16] <hyper_ch> anyone uses truecrypt here?
[01:17] <smithw> tahsin: terminal solution is quicker, gui solution is easier (if what I assume to be happening is what is actually happening). which do you prefer?
[01:18] <tahsin> smithw: gui
[01:18] <smithw> tahsin: fair enough. first, when you log out kde, do you always close amarok? (I mean by clicking with the right button on its tray icon and selecting quit)?
[01:19] <kristina> hi, when I try to launch gnome-hearts I get: **Error**: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file '/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-games-common/cards/bonded.svg'
[01:19] <tahsin> smithw: hey im sorry ill be back in 5 min
[01:20] <BluesKaj> kristina, are you using a cd ?
[01:21] <tahsin_> im back
[01:22] <tahsin_> smithw: yes i always close amarok
[01:23] <smithw> tahsin_: open konqueror, click view/show hidden files, and navigate to ~/.kde/Autostart. which files are there?
[01:23] <kristina> BluesKaj: nope, kubuntu feisty... maybe I'm missing a gnome library? or is there a hearts equivalent for kde?
[01:23] <Pensacola> is there a way to disable smooth scrolling in konqueror?
[01:24] <tahsin_> smithw: its empty !
[01:24] <tahsin_> smithw: a .directory file is there
[01:24] <smithw> tahsin_: then try /usr/share/autostart
[01:25] <BluesKaj> kristina, not that I'm aware
[01:25] <tahsin_> smithw: yup found many files
[01:25] <tahsin_> smithw: but cant see amarok
[01:26] <BluesKaj> it should run in kde tho, that's strange, kristina
[01:27] <BluesKaj> the idea of a missing lib is very possible
[01:27] <smithw> tahsin_: hmm... try this, then. k menu, system settings, advanced, session manager. tell me which option is marked under the box "On Login".
[01:27] <_4strO> yop
[01:28] <tahsin_> smithw: restore previous session
[01:30] <smithw> tahsin_: this means that, when you log in, any applications you had running the last time you logged out will be opened again. perhaps amarok is not being properly close. try switching to "start with an empty session" and see if that works.
[01:30] <tahsin_> smithw: yeah you mayb right ...mayb i didnt close amarok before i logged off
[01:31] <tahsin_> smithw: why does my pc get very slow when i use some desktop widget with superkaramba ?
[01:32] <smithw> tahsin_: remember that, if you just click on the X button on amarok's window, it will continue running on the system tray. to fully close amarok, you have to click with the right button on its system tray icon and select quit.
[01:32] <_4strO> tahsin_: ctrl + esc
[01:32] <tahsin_> smithw: thanks for da info
[01:33] <tahsin_> _4str0: then ?
[01:33] <_4strO> and then order by %user
[01:33] <_4strO> or %system
[01:33] <smithw> tahsin_: that depends on your cpu, video card, x settings, amount of ram... there's just too many variables.
[01:33] <tahsin_> _4str0: then?
[01:33] <_4strO> you will have an idea on what is working on your session
[01:34] <tahsin_> smithw: _4str0: is it beacuse i didnt intall my graphics driver?
[01:34] <_4strO> as smithw said it's depend on many factor
[01:35] <smithw> tahsin_: possibly, but not necessarily.
[01:36] <tahsin_> smithw: so how do i get my graphics card working ...i have nvdia riva tnt2
[01:37] <smithw> tahsin_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto <- this will walk you through the whole process.
[01:37] <tahsin_> smithw: thnx
[01:38] <tahsin_> smithw: how do i make firefox my default browser instead of konqueror ?
[01:39] <smithw> I'm not quite sure, as I haven't done that myself... Perhaps within Firefox's Edit/Preferences dialog.
[01:39] <_4strO> tahsin_: K / system settings / default application
[01:39] <tahsin_> _4str0: thnx
[01:40] <BluesKaj> tahsin_, in the konsole : "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser ", then make your choice
[01:41] <tahsin_> BluesKaj: i did it with K/system setting/default application
[01:42] <tahsin_> can you guys teach me how to install bootsplash theme ?
[01:42] <BluesKaj> well, i doubt it will stick , tahsin_ the cmnd i gave is permanent
[01:42] <tahsin_> BluesKaj: okay let me try it
[01:43] <tahsin_> BluesKaj: thnx its done
[01:43] <tahsin_> So how do install bootsplash themes?
[01:43] <BluesKaj> good
[01:45] <tahsin_> bootsplash themes?
[01:45] <tahsin_> BluesKaj: bootsplash
[01:46] <BluesKaj> tahsin_, you have to use sys/settings/appearnce/import themes...if you know where it is
[01:47] <tahsin_> BluesKaj: i want to change the kubuntu loading screen
[01:47] <BluesKaj> splashscreen
[01:48] <BluesKaj> in system settings
[01:48] <tahsin_> BluesKaj: that doesnt work
[01:48] <tahsin_> BluesKaj: thats just normal splash screen
[01:49] <tahsin_> BluesKaj: im talking about boot splash
[01:49] <tahsin_> BluesKaj: let me give u a link
[01:49] <BluesKaj> did you ;ool at the optins
[01:49] <BluesKaj> look at the options
[01:49] <tahsin_> BluesKaj: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Fingerprint+Bootsplash+1024x768?content=29662
[01:50] <BluesKaj> well if you have a link then import it to a file , and use import themes to retreive and install i t
[01:50] <tahsin_> BluesKaj: i wana use that file
[01:50] <zach> Greets, everyone...
[01:50] <tahsin_> BluesKaj: so what do i have to do ?
[01:50] <BluesKaj> download the file first
[01:51] <_4strO> no need
[01:51] <tahsin_> BluesKaj: then
[01:52] <BluesKaj> in system settings /appearance /import themes/ ...navigate to the file
[01:52] <westis> hi there. I just installed kubuntu-desktop from my original Ubuntu Feisty Fawn installation. But I have two issues: 1) I can't access my external hard drives (NTFS formatted), which I could in Gnome and 2) I can't change the language to Swedish in System Settings/Regional and language. Only US English is available, although Swedish is set as the system language...
[01:52] <zach> Can someone tell me how to find the PCI ID # of my wireless card? I've been looking through KControl, lspci, and KinfoCenter for over an hour and am starting to pull my hair out.
[01:52] <tahsin_> BluesKaj: that file isnt a .kcsrc file
[01:53] <tahsin_> BluesKaj: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/ThinkLinux?content=26495
[01:55] <zach> Does anyone here know how to found out the PCI ID of a wireless card?
[01:55] <tahsin_> anyways gotta go
[01:56] <smithw> how nice, hard drive failed on me.
[01:57] <BluesKaj> !wireless | zach
[01:57] <ubotu> zach: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:58] <zach> Ok, thanks, BluesKaj.
[01:58] <BluesKaj> westis, do you have ntfs-3g and ntfs-config installed
[01:59] <zach> I hate to be one of those people just asking for an easy answer (I'm usually not, but I'm at the end of my wits with this), but do you know how to find out the the PCI ID of a device? I've ransacked KInfoCenter and KControl, and I'm coming up with nothing.
[02:00] <tapas> any hint on where to start looking for the slution to this bugreport?
[02:00] <tapas> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/118402
[02:01] <westis> BluesKaj: no, I hadn't, installed them now. But I still can't access the external drives... They don't appear under /media/ as they did in Gnome and when I choose Open in New Window when I turn it on, nothing  happens...
[02:02] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[02:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:02] <BluesKaj> zach , run a lspci and paste it
[02:02] <zach> BluesKaj: I'm already looking through a very specific step-by-step how-to on how to get everything up and running, and it looks rather promising, but I'm stuck on the step of finding out the PCI ID of the wireless card because it only shows how to find it using the GNOME utility, not the one for KDE
[02:02] <zach> K, one sec...
[02:03] <BluesKaj> westis, sys/settings/advanced/disc&filesystems/...check if they're listed
[02:03] <zach> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23876/
[02:05] <westis> BluesKaj: yeah, they are listed there, as /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdg1
[02:06] <westis> but no mount point
[02:06] <BluesKaj> zach , either one of these : Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5005G 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)...or : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[02:07] <wildchild_> ;-D
[02:08] <BluesKaj> westis, try admin mode , then modify and the dialog will give you mount options ...but that as far as my knowledge takes me on external drives :(
[02:08] <zach> BluesKaj: Right, it's the Atheros one, but any ideas on where I might find the 8-character PCI ID # for it?
[02:09] <westis> BluesKaj: yeah, I'm trying that now and have given it a moont point, but I have no permission to access it,... But I'll play around. Thanks! Any idea about the language setting btw?
[02:09] <BluesKaj> zach, granpa
[02:09] <zach> ?
[02:10] <BluesKaj> I;m old and a bit slow :)
[02:10] <zach> Ohh, hehe. No worries. The smallest bit of help is appreciated. :D
[02:10] <llutz> zach: "lspci -x"
[02:11] <BluesKaj> I'm looking for an editable file that might have the pci info ...hang on
[02:11] <llutz> zach the "00:"-line shows the id in reverted order
[02:12] <BluesKaj> zach, i think llutz , has your answer
[02:12] <jf_> firefox shut down when i try to open preference,
[02:13] <llutz> zach: paste the 5 lines, beginning with the one containing "atheros" to pastebin plz
[02:14] <zach> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23878/
[02:14] <BluesKaj> westis, to make major changes in system settings using admin mode (root) is the way to go ...check regional & language .
[02:14] <jf_> any hints?
[02:14] <llutz> zach: should be: 168C:001A
[02:14] <zach> llutz: I already have 00:16:ce:0e:37:63, but that's just the MAC address, right? Nothing to do with the PCI ID?
[02:15] <llutz> zach: yep
[02:15] <westis> BluesKaj: using admin mode?
[02:15] <zach> Awesome. Thanks a mil, llutz
[02:15] <BluesKaj> yes westis
[02:15] <zach> *and BluesKaj
[02:15] <llutz> zach: np
[02:16] <zach> Peace out
[02:16] <BluesKaj> I'm glad llutz came along
[02:16] <westis> BluesKaj: well, if I go to System Settings/Regional & Language and Install New Language, Swedish is greyed out. I have selected is as system language, but still everything is in English and I can only select US English in the Add Language list
[02:17] <llutz> westis: you'll need "language-pack-kde-sv"
[02:19] <westis> llutz: thanks!!
[02:20] <llutz> westis: and maybe "kde-i18n-sv", "apt-cache search kde swedish" helps you
[02:20] <BluesKaj> ok westis , try a relogin
[02:20] <westis> BluesKaj: for the ext drive?
[02:21] <BluesKaj> for kubuntu
[02:22] <westis> yeah, but I thought you meant to get the ext drive changes working. But suppose you meant the language :) It's working now, just a few system settings still in English, I'll relogin in a moment
[02:22] <BluesKaj> llutz seems to know what to do with your probs ...I'm going to sit and learn :)
[02:22] <westis> I wonder if he'd know about the external drive issue too.... :)
[02:23] <BluesKaj> llutz ?
[02:23] <llutz> <- scrolling back....
[02:24] <BluesKaj> kde-sv ...hmmm svenska ?
[02:24] <westis> BluesKaj: yep
[02:24] <llutz> BluesKaj: i think so, thought it was -sw :)
[02:24] <llutz> westis: sorry no idea about you external drive
[02:24] <westis> strange that it worked out of the box in Ubuntu....
[02:25] <BluesKaj> parents were suomi/svensk...stoll speak abit
[02:25] <BluesKaj> I still speak a bit
[02:25] <westis> and the internal drives work just fine. Well, will Google around
[02:25] <westis> BluesKaj: cool! :) Kaj sounds Swedish :)
[02:25] <BluesKaj> it is :)
[02:25] <pawitp> !google
[02:25] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[02:26] <llutz> BluesKaj: hehe, i'm going to visit sweden next month. parents in law live there but fortunately they're german too :)
[02:28] <BluesKaj> llutz, westis...I've been in Canada since 1947 , when i was 4 yrs old so my swedish is pretty rusty and limited
[02:28] <llutz> BluesKaj: but still better than mine :)
[02:28] <westis> :)
[02:29] <BluesKaj> I appreciate you knowledge of English , to be able to help out here :)
[02:29] <BluesKaj> your
[02:30] <llutz> unfortunately it's also very limited :(
[02:31] <BluesKaj> most europeans with any education and /or intelligence seem to speak English very well , in my experience
[02:32] <smithw> BluesKaj, llutz: I found out that reading conversations here and on another channels, reading English documents etc. is the best way for any non-native English speaker to learn the language. Better than any English schools...
[02:32] <llutz> BluesKaj: except the poms we have to learn a foreign language if we don't want to be limited to our own country
[02:32] <llutz> smithw: that's true
[02:32] <smithw> it's only worse than actually living in English speaking country.
[02:32] <smithw> *an
[02:34] <BluesKaj> It's good to have the chance to exercise ones language skills on the interent/irc etc
[02:35] <BluesKaj> my spelling suffers from lack of keyboard skills :)
[02:35] <llutz> BluesKaj: don't try to learn germann in german irc-chans :)
[02:35] <llutz> -n
[02:35] <BluesKaj> I can't speak german anyway ...i lil french and swedish is abou tit
[02:35] <jacques> someone can tell me how I can st up my router
[02:36] <smithw> !router
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <llutz> jacques: set-up what?
[02:36] <BluesKaj> jacques, wireless ?
[02:36] <jacques> I bought a wireless router and I am not able to connect my computer
[02:41] <BluesKaj> brb ...system settings crash
[02:47] <cox377> does anyone know of a terminal based IP bandwidth monitor that would show total usage month etc?
[02:48] <aldin> anyone knows IRC for kommander program or anyone here to help me with that app
[02:51] <BluesKaj> aldin, look in synaptic or adept for kommander or in the terminal , type ;  'sudo apt-get install kommander '
[02:55] <BluesKaj> cox377, check this site : http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Monitoring/Network/
[02:56] <aldin> BluesKaj: i installed it, but thought for help with some widgets...
[03:03] <westis> BluesKaj & llutz: I found help in another channel about mounting external drives. For the user to have permission to access it it needs to be mounted with mount -o uid=1000 (or whatever the password of the user is in /etc/passwd
[03:03] <just-this-time> cable internet connects thru script I need to avoid end user messsing with command line
[03:04] <just-this-time> how do I make it work from clickin icon. the cable internet dialer I mean
[03:05] <smithw> just-this-time: you can make a .desktop file and put it on the user's desktop.
[03:05] <ReMiiRuru> How do I fix: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23881/
[03:05] <just-this-time> smithw: and ask it to run a script ?
[03:05] <smithw> take a look at /etc/share/autorun desktop files and you'll get a better understanding of what I'm talking about
[03:06] <smithw> just-this-time: precisely. just name it on the Exec= directive.
[03:07] <just-this-time> other issue
[03:07] <just-this-time> sorry
[03:07] <just-this-time> clamav depends on clamav-freshclam | clamav-data; however:
[03:07] <just-this-time>   Package clamav-freshclam is not configured yet.
[03:08] <smithw> sorry, I know nothing about clamav or any other antiviruses for linux. my network has just one linux box and one mac, so I don't use any antivirus at all.
[03:15] <Jose> i have linux and windows on my pc, uninstalling linux to reinstall will afect my data on windows?
[03:16] <ReMiiRuru> Jose: No. Unless you format windows partitions or something silly like that.
[03:17] <Jose> how do i uninstall linux
[03:18] <ReMiiRuru> Jose: But... why do you want to reinstall linux in first place? Usually it shouldn't be necessary.
[03:19] <Jose> is showing to many problems i have been for month trying to solve and i can not
[03:20] <llutz> Jose: just delete the linux-partition and create a new one (when in win)
[03:22] <Jose> i guess i have to to that from linux itself and not from windows right?
[03:23] <llutz> Jose: nope, you can do it from win
[03:24] <llutz> Jose: xp shows you "unknown partition", just delete it
[03:24] <Jose> no ia have try so many times without succes do i need special softwrae to do that or is in windows something to delete partitions
[03:25] <llutz> Jose: that was in w98/95/me/3.1 times
[03:26] <Jose> could you tell me what are the steps to delete it
[03:27] <llutz> Jose: ask in a win-channel
[03:27] <Jose> OK
[03:28] <ReMiiRuru> Can't he use partition manager from linux installer, if it's in his distro installer? He wants to reinstall it anyway after all.
[03:30] <ubuntu_> jhjhghj
[03:32] <acemo> could anyone see if they can unpack this? it seems to not be working for me atm.. :/
[03:32] <acemo> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kate+Project+Manager+Plugin+(KPMP)?content=42653
[03:36] <bomber> anyone here use nvivia drivers
[03:36] <ReMiiRuru> bomber: I do.
[03:36] <bomber> do you run feisty?
[03:36] <ReMiiRuru> Yup. 64bit
[03:37] <bomber> i been trying to get other than the nv drivers to work with no luck
[03:37] <bomber> which ones do you use?
[03:38] <fuel> I have installed apache on kubuntu. where is the server directory ?
[03:38] <fuel> on suse it used to be in /srv
[03:38] <ReMiiRuru> bomber: First, what happens when you install nvidia drivers and then _reboot_?
[03:38] <wsjunior> hi guys. i have slow tranfers using usb2 is there any way to solve this? it just happens with large files
[03:39] <wsjunior> it seems its a know problem, anybody know a solution?
[03:39] <wsjunior> something related to sync and async
[03:39] <fuel> probably your drive has slow read and write rate
[03:39] <bomber> well looking through the repositorys i only find the nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new and i tried both but didnt reboot ... i just restarted x
[03:39] <bomber> and it wouldnt start...
[03:40] <wsjunior> fuel: no, in windows its much quicker
[03:40] <ReMiiRuru> bomber: Well, did you get any errors? Or freeze+black screen?
[03:40] <bomber> i had to go back and edit the xorg.conf file manually and turn it back to "nv" for the drivers
[03:40] <bomber> i believe it was screen 0 not found
[03:41] <bomber> which ones do you recommend?
[03:41] <bomber> i'll try it again and write down the errors
[03:41] <ReMiiRuru> wait
[03:41] <dragon> please i need help
[03:41] <fuel> wsjunior: hmmm...... I am not sure.
[03:41] <fuel> wsjunior: or better i dont know
[03:41] <fuel> !apache
[03:41] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:42] <dragon> it's very important , i done something wrong :(
[03:42] <ReMiiRuru> bomber: when it fails run just type 'sudo nvidia-bug-report.sh' and it will create file with aaall logs. Very helpful.
[03:42] <wsjunior> fuel: http://kerneltrap.org/node/6933
[03:42] <wsjunior> something like this
[03:42] <dragon> i have done rm -r on a samba devile
[03:42] <dragon> device
[03:43] <wsjunior> does anybody else noticed slow transfer rates using usb 2?
[03:43] <dragon> pls somebody can tell me how can i recover data in samba disk ?
[03:43] <fuel> wsjunior: well I did have the same problem on suse 10
[03:43] <dragon> please
[03:43] <bomber> ReMiiRuru:  ok i'll try now and do that... wher does it store the file?
[03:43] <fuel> dragon : did you use rm ?
[03:43] <ReMiiRuru> in your home directory
[03:43] <bomber> ok thanks
[03:43] <wsjunior> "Maybe your distribution mounts you USB hard disk with the "sync" mount option enabled?"
[03:44] <fuel> on linux its not possible to recover data once its deleted. (by software atleast)
[03:44] <wsjunior> does kubuntu does that for usb 2 devices?
[03:44] <fuel> no kubuntu does not use sync
[03:44] <dragon> i have done rm -r on the samba mount point
[03:44] <fuel> check out the mstab
[03:44] <fuel> dragon: no, I dont want to sound negative, but its not possible to recover on linux
[03:45] <bomber> should i try the nvidia-glx or the nvidia-glx-new?
[03:46] <bomber> brb
[03:50] <bomber> boo yea
[03:50] <bomber> thanks a lot.... i for some reason never tried rebooting
[03:51] <bomber> all set now
[03:52] <ReMiiRuru> bomber: oh, that's great :)
[03:53] <bomber> yea... make a huge difference
[03:54] <bomber> whats the reboot do? activate the drivers in the kernel?  I figured it was x only... so i restarted x
[03:55] <ReMiiRuru> bomber: there's some difference in what nvidia drivers do and nv ones on startup, I don't remember what it was, but someone explained it to me before.
[03:55] <bomber> no biigie at least they are going now
[03:56] <bomber> thanks again
[03:57] <ReMiiRuru> Lol, no problems and thanks for trout :3
[03:57] <acemo> could anyone see if they can unpack this? it seems to not be working for me atm.. :/
[03:58] <acemo> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kate+Project+Manager+Plugin+(KPMP)?content=42653
[04:02] <neoj> acemo: i made a deb of it yesturday
[04:03] <acemo> neoj: where could i find that .deb? =)
[04:04] <Andrew``> can I ask you guys what JDK file I need to download? .rpm.bin or just .bin?
[04:04] <neoj> acemo: i made it for my own use, its a simple checkinstall: http://joen.infa.fi/projectmanager_0.1-1_i386.deb
[04:05] <neoj> no fancy description etc ;)
[04:05] <acemo> neoj: as long as it works with default kubuntu installation im happy ^^
[04:05] <neoj> acemo: worked for me :) kubuntu feisty
[04:06] <acemo> Andrew``: pick the .bin
[04:07] <acemo> neoj: works here too =) thanks alot
[04:07] <neoj> acemo: yay, np :)
[04:07] <^RiaN^> hiii everyone
[04:17] <dominik_> Hello world!!1
[04:21] <Andrew``> how do I go one level up in a directory in Konsole??
[04:21] <GrueTamer> cd ..
[04:21] <llutz> Andrew``: cd ..
[04:29] <soulrider_> Andrew``: cd ..
[04:29] <soulrider_> mind the space between cd and ..
[04:33] <ReMiiRuru> Does anyone know how to fix errors like this? -> 'Fontconfig warning: no <cachedir> elements found. Check configuration.' whenever I try to start many applications?
[04:33] <gthor> test
[04:35] <soulrider_> ReMiiRuru: KDE applications ?
[04:35] <soulrider> or applications in a console ?
[04:35] <hatta> so I upgraded to feisty and it left me in xfce
[04:36] <olexander> anybody from russia or ukraine?
[04:36] <hatta> I tried installing xubuntu-desktop again but it didn't change anything
[04:36] <ReMiiRuru> soulrider: KDE applications, for example 'kate'
[04:36] <hatta> startkde is still in my ~/.xinitrc
[04:36] <soulrider> !ru | olexander
[04:36] <ubotu> olexander:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[04:36] <hatta> how do I get back to kde?
[04:36] <soulrider> hatta: log out and clickt he session button, then choose XFCE
[04:37] <olexander> thanks
[04:37] <soulrider> ReMiiRuru: no idea =/ try restarting x
[04:37] <ReMiiRuru> Hmm, I just found out they are harmless and are caused by having old fonts.conf without <cachedir> entries.
[04:37] <ReMiiRuru> now, what do I do to get new fonts.conf with <cachedir> entries?
[04:37] <soulrider> ReMiiRuru: can you update the font.conf ?
[04:38] <ReMiiRuru> soulrider: how? T_T
[04:38] <soulrider> ReMiiRuru: i could pastebin mine, but i dont know if it can break anything
[04:38] <soulrider> did you install any fonts or something? or did it allways do that
[04:39] <ReMiiRuru> I did install some asian fonts, I think it was what borked things.
[04:39] <soulrider> uh, do you *need* them ?
[04:40] <ReMiiRuru> soulrider: nah, I might try uninstalling them, I'll just get their names first.
[04:40] <soulrider> didnt you use a deb package ?
[04:41] <hatta> thank soulrider that worked
[04:41] <mado> oy guys ... hello ...
[04:41] <ReMiiRuru> I apt-getted them...
[04:41] <soulrider> hatta:  :)
[04:41] <soulrider> ReMiiRuru: then you can uninstallt hem easily
[04:41] <soulrider> hi mado
[04:41] <mado> english isn't my mother-tongue but i hope you can help me ... hello soulrider
[04:41] <mado> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1161
[04:42] <soulrider> !de
[04:42] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:42] <soulrider> maybe that helps
[04:42] <mado> i already showed this in an kubuntu-channel in which my mother-tongue is spoken
[04:42] <ReMiiRuru> hmm, that error appears even during removal of those fonts. neat.
[04:42] <soulrider> lol ReMiiRuru
[04:42] <mado> but i wanted to know what you guys think ... more heads are better than less heads
[04:42] <soulrider> mado: i have never seen that before
[04:43] <soulrider> allt he pros seem to be asleep now, try in #debian or #ubuntu too
[04:43] <mado> well ... i get this error message when i want to start the kubuntu installation on my father's pc
[04:43] <soulrider> oh
[04:43] <soulrider> so its not isntalled yet
[04:43] <soulrider> uhm
[04:43] <soulrider> have you tried the safe graphics mode ?
[04:44] <mado> no
[04:44] <soulrider> try it and see what happens
[04:44] <mado> ok
[04:44] <mado> i will come back here when i know what happened
[04:45] <ReMiiRuru> Oh, I got it fixed, I know what borked things now.
[04:45] <PhinnFort> how can I copy&paste while keeping the formatting?
[04:45] <soulrider> ReMiiRuru: yeah
[04:45] <soulrider> PhinnFort: where? into here ?
[04:45] <PhinnFort> kword, or openoffice?
[04:46] <lunixman> hello
[04:46] <ReMiiRuru> soulrider: those weren't fonts that I just uninstalled... I realized one of operations I did 5 days ago changed my fonts.conf >_>
[04:46] <lunixman> i have one physical harddrive with multiple partitions
[04:46] <ReMiiRuru> but I had backup~
[04:46] <lunixman> unfortunately ubuntu didnt automatically detect them, what should i do?
[04:46] <soulrider> hello lunixman
[04:46] <lunixman> i know theres a proggie that helps detect mountable devices
[04:46] <soulrider> lunixman: do you know the numbers? and do you know where you wanna mount them ?
[04:46] <lunixman> just forgot what it iis
[04:46] <lunixman> yes
[04:46] <lunixman> hda5
[04:46] <soulrider> uhm, no idea
[04:47] <soulrider> ok, good
[04:47] <soulrider> have you ever edited fstab ?
[04:47] <lunixman> last time i remember i typed in a command that automatically detects extra partitions
[04:47] <lunixman> yep
[04:47] <llutz> lunixman: sudo fdisk -l
[04:47] <PhinnFort> soulrider: how about that copying and pasting?
[04:47] <soulrider> lunixman: youre gonna have to edit fstab and add that partition
[04:47] <ReMiiRuru> Oh, fixened it even better.~
[04:47] <soulrider> PhinnFort: im not sure, AFAIK they keep the formatting, but im really not sure
[04:48] <lunixman> ok thanks ill try that out
[04:48] <PhinnFort> soulrider: well, it keeps some formatting, but only the useless one
[04:48] <PhinnFort> soulrider: I have some super/subscript, and that it doesn't keep, but text size it keeps
[04:48] <soulrider> oh
[04:49] <soulrider> no idea then
[04:49] <soulrider> i rarely use office actually
[04:49] <PhinnFort> well, it's a PITA, and it doesn't even keep it when I move it around inside the document
[04:50] <soulrider> can you save the document adn open it with the program youre copying to ?
[04:50] <PhinnFort> soulrider: doesn't help, since I need to move it around
[04:50] <soulrider> oh
[04:50] <PhinnFort> it's chemical formulas from several documents, that I need to merge
[04:50] <soulrider> oh
[04:50] <lunixman> ok
[04:50] <lunixman> i did the sudo fdisk -l command
[04:51] <soulrider> i hanvt sued those in a while :P
[04:51] <lunixman> it only detected my hda5
[04:51] <PhinnFort> :P
[04:51] <lunixman> but its still not in my media folder
[04:51] <soulrider> lunixman: i suggest you edit fstab yourself, its quite easy actually
[04:52] <dr_willis> lunixman,  try 'sudo fdisk -l' ?
[04:53] <dr_willis> learning the ins and outs of the fstab file - is a very handy skill to learn
[04:53] <lunixman> yeah i tried it
[04:53] <lunixman> it only detected my hda5
[04:53] <lunixman> weird though, it detected it
[04:53] <lunixman> but i cant access it
[04:55] <dr_willis> you mean your 'user' cant access it?
[04:55] <ReMiiRuru> When I apt-get things, are install packages that were downloaded kept on hard drive or deleted?
[04:55] <PhinnFort> ReMiiRuru: kept
[04:55] <dr_willis> ReMiiRuru,  they are kept in /var/cache/apt for a while.
[04:55] <dr_willis> i think thats the roght place.
[04:55] <lunixman> yeah
[04:55] <PhinnFort> until you delete them
[04:55] <lunixman> even as root its not there
[04:56] <PhinnFort> lunixman: have you rebooted after editing fstab?
[04:56] <lunixman> not yet
[04:56] <ReMiiRuru> PhinnFort: dr_willis: Thanks for info~
[04:56] <lunixman> should i just type in the device name and mount point?
[04:56] <lunixman> is that all i need to do
[04:56] <PhinnFort> yw
[04:56] <lunixman> for example
[04:57] <lunixman> /dev/hda5 /media/hda5?
[04:57] <dr_willis> there more to the fstab then that
[04:57] <soulrider> yeah lunixman, you need some more stuff
[04:57] <dr_willis> the allredy existing lines in fstab can serve as an examplke.
[04:57] <soulrider> what you can do is copy one of the entries
[04:57] <dr_willis> then of course theres 'man fstab' :)
[04:57] <soulrider> of another partition youre using
[04:58] <benjamin> hi, how do I search and delete with the command line? find . -name 'searchstring' <delete the result>
[04:59] <benjamin> I tryed something like > rm $1 and the like, buth nothing worked
[04:59] <llutz> benjamin: find... -exec rm {} \;
[05:00] <benjamin> llutz: cool thanks
[05:00] <llutz> benjamin: or: find . -name foo  -print | xargs rm
[05:01] <dr_willis> theres lots of find examples out
[05:01] <dr_willis> watch out for files with spaces in their names
[05:03] <llutz> benjamin: filenames with spaces: find . -name foo  -print0 | xargs -0 rm
[05:03] <llutz> ^^ gnu-find/xargs
[05:07] <DJServers> hey ik have downloaded a .iso file but i have no cd burner what to do now?
[05:07] <dr_willis> depends on what you are trying to do. :)
[05:07] <llutz> DJServers: delete the iso
[05:08] <DJServers> i want to install it
[05:08] <dr_willis> llutz,  heh - i was being nice.
[05:08] <dr_willis> DJServers,  and what is 'it' exactly you are trying to install and to what are you trying to install it to?
[05:08] <llutz> DJServers: afaik ubuntu doen't support "fromiso"
[05:08] <llutz> doesn't
[05:09] <DJServers> well does it matter what it is?
[05:09] <dr_willis> all things might matter.
[05:10] <dr_willis> you want to some how boot an arbitary iso image file = Not going to happen
[05:10] <DJServers> no not boot
[05:10] <DJServers> just open it now and install
[05:10] <dr_willis> Now ya could perhaps use vmware and some how get around it.
[05:10] <dr_willis> DJServers,  booting the cd is normally how the installer works
[05:10] <llutz> DJServers: sudo mount -o loop /your/file.iso /mnt
[05:10] <DJServers> no this one is insert when you pc is started up and install
[05:11] <dr_willis> DJServers,  now ya know why we asked WHAT the specific iso file is..
[05:11] <DJServers> what does sudo mount -o loop /your/file.iso /mnt do?
[05:11] <dr_willis> ubuntu, kubuntu, puppylinux, some game?
[05:11] <dr_willis> !iso
[05:11] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:12] <llutz> DJServers: so forget above, remove .iso if you can't burn it on cd/dvd.
[05:12] <DJServers> no
[05:13] <llutz> DJServers: you have to burn it on cd/dvd to start your PC from it
[05:14] <DJServers> but i dont have to start my pc from it!
[05:15] <dr_willis> if its a simple game/program that normally ya just run its isntaller.. then mount the .iso and  access it as normal
[05:15] <llutz> DJServers: the mount-command mounts that iso, you can access data in directory /mnt then
[05:16] <PhinnFort> use acetoneiso
[05:16] <PhinnFort> DJServers: search on kde-apps.org for acetoneiso, download the ubuntu package, and install it
[05:16] <PhinnFort> it should help you
[05:18] <DJServers> what is that?
[05:19] <olexander> how can I download firefox via IRC
[05:20] <DJServers> when i click on the download it loads in kate?
[05:21] <manton> I'm having trouble with my dsl internet connection. It isn't automatically starting when I boot up kubuntu. I have to go into network and turn it off, then back on again for it to work. Anyone help?
[05:21] <dr_willis> olexander,  not very easially. cant use the package manager>
[05:21] <dr_willis> ?
[05:22] <dr_willis> manton,  if ya can do that from the shell.  ya could put the commands in rc.local
[05:22] <manton> dr_will, how do I do that?
[05:23] <PhinnFort> DJServers: right click and select save to
[05:23] <dr_willis> /etc/init.d/networking restart      'might kick it in the head' if so. then add that command to the rc.local file in /etc
[05:23] <DJServers> ehm...
[05:23] <DJServers> okay
[05:24] <manton> dr_willis, how do I do that? And have you heard of this problem before?
[05:24] <DJServers> i never download packs :p just sudo apt-get install AcetoneISO-6.7.tar.gz
[05:24] <DJServers> ?/
[05:24] <PhinnFort> DJServers: isn't there a .deb there?
[05:24] <DJServers> o wait a sec
[05:25] <rollerskatejamms> I'm not saying this to be a troll, but why does it seem like Kubuntu is ten times more buggy then Ubuntu?
[05:25] <manton> dr_willis, I typed that in the terminal, but it said "fail"
[05:25] <PhinnFort> rollerskatejamms: well, you awfully seem like a troll coming with such unsubstantiated claims that have absolutely no use
[05:26] <DJServers> there is  on that site but when i click on it it directly opens it in kate
[05:26] <rollerskatejamms> PhinnFort: well i may seem like one. but the fact is when i run kubuntu i have all kinds of issues. it crahses. adept doesnt properly rectify dependencies, etc.
[05:26] <PhinnFort> DJServers: you must right click on the link and save as
[05:26] <rollerskatejamms> ubuntu works just fine.
[05:26] <PhinnFort> rollerskatejamms: Adept is a buggy POS, imho, but KDE owns
[05:26] <rollerskatejamms> PhinnFort: Oh I'm not saying KDE doesn't own. I love KDE.
[05:26] <PhinnFort> rollerskatejamms: don't confuse one program with the entire desktop
[05:27] <rollerskatejamms> but i find  that lots of apps randomly crash
[05:27] <mendred> hi when i run openoffice in kde.. it doesn't obey fontconfig settings..i need to do an export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome (to trigger the gtk wrapper) to get sane fonts
[05:27] <rollerskatejamms> when im using kubuntu
[05:27] <PhinnFort> rollerskatejamms: checked your RAM?
[05:27] <rollerskatejamms> not kde in general
[05:27] <DJServers> i cant when i right click on it the stands no save as or save
[05:27] <rollerskatejamms> PhinnFort: No I haven't but if it were bad RAM, why wouldn't it also happen under Ubuntu?
[05:27] <mendred> is there any way to force it to use fontconfig with the kde wrapper?
[05:27] <PhinnFort> rollerskatejamms: well, how often does it crash?
[05:28] <DJServers> PhinnFort: There doens't stand a save as or save when i right klik on it
[05:29] <PhinnFort> save link as?
[05:29] <DJServers> yeah
[05:29] <DJServers> and thats an download.php
[05:29] <PhinnFort> DJServers: give it a new name
[05:30] <DJServers> what name?
[05:30] <DJServers> download.deb /
[05:30] <DJServers> ?
[05:30] <PhinnFort> yeah
[05:30] <PhinnFort> or acetone.deb, or anything that tickles your funny
[05:30] <DJServers> ok it now opens whit ark
[05:31] <DJServers> when i click on it
[05:31] <PhinnFort> DJServers: right click, and install it
[05:31] <alexalux> #ubuntu-ru
[05:32] <PhinnFort> alexalux: you can just type "/j #channelname" to join a channel
[05:32] <DJServers> PhinnFort: what program?
[05:32] <PhinnFort> DJServers: not open with
[05:32] <PhinnFort> DJServers: it should be a separate submenu, KUbuntu install or something
[05:32] <DJServers> o got it
[05:34] <PhinnFort> it should be in your k-menu afterwards
[05:34] <zblach> has anyone else had problems with cups?
[05:34] <DJServers> it doenst work
[05:34] <DJServers> it gets an error
[05:34] <PhinnFort> DJServers: you maybe need to install kommander
[05:34] <PhinnFort> !find kommander
[05:34] <ubotu> Found: kommander, kommander-dev
[05:34] <PhinnFort> !info kommander
[05:34] <ubotu> kommander: visual dialog builder and executor tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3800 kB
[05:35] <DJServers> how to install
[05:36] <PhinnFort> DJServers: install it via apt
[05:36] <PhinnFort> DJServers: *adept
[05:36] <DJServers> ok
[05:36] <DJServers> search for kommander and install
[05:36] <DJServers> simple
[05:37] <PhinnFort> yeah
[05:37] <PhinnFort> meh... OpenOffice's formula editing is fugly
[05:38] <PhinnFort> and doesn't import formulas from .doc very well
[05:38] <DJServers> ok its loading
[05:39] <yuriy> PhinnFort: what's wrong with OO.o's formula editing?
[05:39] <PhinnFort> yuriy: I'm trying to edit a .doc document, I've saved as a .odt, but still it doesn't allow me to resize the formulas
[05:39] <PhinnFort> and if I try to edit them, most of the numbers are replaced with ?'s
[05:40] <yuriy> oh i guess working with ms word formula's might be problematic
[05:40] <yuriy> from scratch i think it's quite a bit better than the MS editor
[05:40] <PhinnFort> well, but you have that addin that everyone who's serious about formulas use
[05:40] <PhinnFort> mathml or whatever
[05:41] <PhinnFort> yuriy: look at this crap...: http://phinnfort.phil0d0x.com/stuff/screenshots/skjermbilde6.png
[05:42] <PhinnFort> meh
[05:44] <DJFrankie> DJServers here my konversation crashed now my real name DJServers is still here :P
[05:44] <PhinnFort> argh... also if I try to move them, they start jumping all over the place
[05:48] <DJFrankie> PhinnFort: Now it says Kommander is not yet configurated when i try to install donwload.dev
[05:48] <PhinnFort> did you install kommander
[05:48] <PhinnFort> DJFrankie: also, check in your k-menu
[05:49] <DJFrankie> o well i have to go eating now have a look at it when i am done
[05:49] <PhinnFort> ok
[05:49] <PhinnFort> good eating
[05:52] <sercik> Hi
[05:53] <sercik> after all i have returned to kubuntu
[05:53] <titanix88> hendaus: there?
[05:54] <lunixman> why is it that in ubuntu there's no Open Terminal Here option when i rightclick?
[05:54] <dr_willis> guess it got removed.
[05:54] <llutz> lunixman: in konqueror?
[05:56] <steve_> ur gay
[05:57] <titanix88> steve_: !!!?!!
[05:57] <PhinnFort> he left
[05:57] <dr_willis> Cat on the Keyboard again! :0
[05:57] <PhinnFort> :P
[05:57] <dr_willis> or Younger Brother.
[05:57] <dr_willis> :)
[05:57] <PhinnFort> :D
[05:58] <lunixman> llutz,: no in gnome
[05:58] <MementoMori> hi all
[05:58] <llutz> gnome is ugly ;)
[05:58] <PhinnFort> fugly
[05:58] <titanix88> llutz: kde sucks!!!
[05:58] <PhinnFort> gnome is stupid
[05:59] <MementoMori> where can I find an online free lpic 101 test simulator?
[05:59] <dr_willis> Windowmaker pwns  you!
[05:59] <dr_willis> :)
[05:59] <PhinnFort> ratpoison owns all
[05:59] <llutz> ion rulez
[05:59] <dr_willis> twn !
[05:59] <llutz> bla bla fishcake
[05:59] <PhinnFort> llutz: what has ion that I need?
[05:59] <PhinnFort> TWM
[05:59] <dr_willis> wmx !
[05:59] <dr_willis> :)
[05:59] <PhinnFort> ratpoison is actually usefull
[05:59] <dr_willis> 'Matchbox' is an interesting window manager
[05:59] <llutz> PhinnFort: whe tf needs a gui/wm?
[06:00] <PhinnFort> llutz: to have several terminals in view at once?
[06:00] <llutz> o
[06:00] <PhinnFort> :P
[06:00] <dr_willis> real men use screen :)
[06:00] <llutz> PhinnFort: "screen" helps
[06:00] <PhinnFort> llutz: ratpoison is screen for X
[06:00] <PhinnFort> :)
[06:00] <PhinnFort> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratpoison
[06:02] <dr_willis> every once in a while i get bored and try those alternatives..
[06:02] <dr_willis> they always seem to have some really 'odd' features  in one way or another.
[06:02] <PhinnFort> how about a browser war?
[06:02] <dr_willis> What was the one that all the settings were like in a 'database file' ?
[06:03] <titanix88> PhinnFort: w3m rocks!!
[06:03] <llutz> oh i forgor that. opera sux
[06:03] <PhinnFort> lynx pwns ye all
[06:03] <PhinnFort> links is for sissies
[06:03] <PhinnFort> or skipstone
[06:03] <dr_willis> dillo - because the name is amost dirty!
[06:03] <PhinnFort> (which is kind of neat, actually)
[06:03] <llutz> "telnet bar.foo 80" rulez
[06:03] <PhinnFort> dillo doesn't support CSS, otherwise it's very nice
[06:03] <PhinnFort> nc ftw
[06:04] <dr_willis> Now we can rant about how CSS sucks!
[06:04] <PhinnFort> yeah!
[06:04] <dr_willis> pure html!!
[06:04] <PhinnFort> purity, endurance and pwnage!
[06:04] <dr_willis> Ive noticed that recently web sites may look better.. but are less useable  way too muchof the time.
[06:04] <dr_willis> a few i visit - cant even be printed right any more.
[06:04] <PhinnFort> that sucks
[06:05] <PhinnFort> can we have a shellfight now?
[06:05] <PhinnFort> asmsh ftw!
[06:05] <dr_willis> dash vs bash!
[06:05] <dr_willis> :)
[06:05] <llutz> zsh
[06:05] <PhinnFort> heh
[06:06] <PhinnFort> http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/asmsh/
[06:06] <yeniklasor> araknofobia :S
[06:06] <PhinnFort> you even have to finish the sourcecode yourself!
[06:06] <llutz> coool, easier than "cat >/vmlinuz" all the time :)
[06:07] <dr_willis> hmm.. firefox wants me to get this plyugin for a site.. and its "(Unknown Plugin) (Application X-OLE Object)
[06:07] <yeniklasor> what is /vmlinuz ?
[06:07] <dr_willis> heh and the site works fine.. in IE. the same site looks identical.. and works.. so not sure what the plugin is even for
[06:07] <llutz> yeniklasor: usually a link to your actual kernel
[06:07] <titanix88> hendaus:
[06:08] <PhinnFort>  /boot/vmlinuz on modern distros
[06:09] <sercik> someone have install synaptic under kubuntu feisty??
[06:09] <sercik> there is a bug and i can't see shich packages installed ior not
[06:09] <dr_willis> sercik,  yes. works fine
[06:09] <dr_willis> for me.
[06:09] <dr_willis> i tend to install ubuntu-desktop
[06:09] <sercik> i don't see the square
[06:10] <sercik> before the name that indicates if packages in installed upfdated or uninstalled
[06:11] <dr_willis> cant say that ive ever noticed those.
[06:12] <dr_willis> under the "S" colum first colum ya mean?
[06:12] <sercik> i think the problem is that feisty use kde style also on gtk applications
[06:12] <dr_willis> I got green box's with stars on some packages
[06:12] <kamp382> hola
[06:12] <yeniklasor> is I delete vmlinuz and initrd.img my kubuntu won't boot up?
[06:12] <dr_willis> i do install that kde-gtk theme tool
[06:12] <sercik> stars are for upgradable
[06:12] <kamp382> soy de colombia
[06:12] <yeniklasor> if I delete vmlinuz and initrd.img my kubuntu won't boot up?
[06:12] <dr_willis> yeniklasor,  if you delete them - yep. i bet they wont boot.
[06:12] <sercik> dr_willis: can you explain better?
[06:12] <kamp382> colombia
[06:13] <kamp382> colombia
[06:13] <kamp382> colombia
[06:13] <kamp382> colombia
[06:13] <kamp382> colombia
[06:13] <kamp382> colombia
[06:13] <PhinnFort> shaddap
[06:13] <greg_g> kamp382: espanol en #ubuntu-es
[06:13] <dr_willis> sercik,  i got green box icons and empty box's and.. other icons in the S colum , theres a package that lets your gtk apps use  the proper kde theme/icons/decorations also.
[06:13] <sercik> i want to know about that package!
[06:14] <sercik> tell me please and i will install it
[06:14] <yeniklasor> dr_willis: Somehow my pc's boot is deleting or something (there is also windows) How can I restore my boot, if there is an error occur?
[06:14] <guillermo> alguien habla espaol?
[06:14] <PhinnFort> !es | guillermo
[06:14] <ubotu> guillermo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:14] <dr_willis> if i knew the exact name i would of said it. :)  search the package manager I gues.s i cant rember what its calle
[06:14] <dr_willis> !theme
[06:14] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:14] <guillermo> gracias
[06:15] <PhinnFort> how can I move a friggin table from one page to another in OO Writer?
[06:15] <klobster> !la foo
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about la foo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <sercik> dr_willis: you was speaking about a package... not a website
[06:15] <klobster> !ru foo
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ru foo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <klobster> !ru | foo
[06:15] <ubotu> foo:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:16] <klobster> doh!, forgot the pipe
[06:17] <dr_willis> The GTK-Qt Theme Engine (also known as gtk-qt-engine)
[06:17] <klobster> !la | foo
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about la - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <dr_willis> !info gtk-qt-engine
[06:17] <ubotu> gtk-qt-engine: theme engine using Qt for GTK+ 2.x. In component main, is optional. Version 0.71~svn20070224-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 98 kB, installed size 460 kB
[06:18] <os2mac> I have a shell question.
[06:19] <dr_willis> oh
[06:19] <klobster> !foo > klobster
[06:19] <os2mac>  I want to start that application from a command prompt and then free the shell so that you can continue to use it.
[06:19] <DJFrankie> PhinnFort: i am back
[06:20] <dr_willis> os2mac,  bash fundamentals job control
[06:20] <dr_willis>  command &
[06:20] <DJServers> !phpmtadmin
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phpmtadmin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <dr_willis> do NOT use the 'close' button on the terminal window. use the exit command if you wish to close it
[06:20] <DJServers> !phpmyadmin
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phpmyadmin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <os2mac> dr_willis: tried that it didn't spawn the app.
[06:20] <DJServers> !dev
[06:20] <ubotu> Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[06:21] <sercik> i can't see boxes :(
[06:21] <PhinnFort> anyone tried Microsoft Office in Wine here?
[06:21] <sercik> i don't like adept.. i want to use synaptic .
[06:21] <sercik> i have tried office 2003
[06:21] <dr_willis> os2mac,  then ya need to clarify what exactly you are trying to do.
[06:21] <PhinnFort> did it work?
[06:21] <dr_willis> & runs a command in the background.
[06:22] <sercik> i don't see boxes in synaptic under kubuntu
[06:22] <dr_willis> sercik,  you may want to post a screen shot
[06:23] <os2mac> dr_willis: let's say I am in a shell and want to run a windowed app (adept_manager) but don't want to loose the usage of the shell window... how does one do that?
[06:23] <sercik> there is nothing to see however :)
[06:23] <DJServers> PhinnFort: ehm.. the install says kommander is not right configured
[06:23] <dr_willis> os2mac,    with xterm for example. ya would do 'xterm &'
[06:23] <PhinnFort> DJServers: have you tried running AcetoneISO?
[06:24] <dr_willis> specific error messages may still appear in the original shell  however.
[06:24] <DJServers> hoe/
[06:24] <DJServers> how?
[06:24] <os2mac> dr_willis:  what about in an instance where I have to run a sudo?
[06:24] <dr_willis> try it and see.
[06:25] <sercik> http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=schermata1ve2.png
[06:25] <dr_willis> for a gui app you proberly want to use that ksudo (or whatever its called) not 'sudo'
[06:26] <sercik> i need help with synaptic
[06:26] <DJServers> ho nows a good phpmyadmin download?
[06:27] <os2mac> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23909/
[06:27] <titanix88> hendaus: there?
[06:28] <titanix88> sercik: what help?
[06:28] <llutz> os2mac: kdesu <app-name> &
[06:28] <DJServers> what de uninstall command again?
[06:28] <DJServers> apt-get remove?
[06:28] <sercik> Hi titanix88 i can't see the boxes in synaptic in kubutu feisty
[06:29] <sercik> so i'm not able to understand which packages are installed or not
[06:29] <titanix88> sercik: boxes?
[06:29] <sercik> see here:  http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=schermata1ve2.png
[06:29] <DJServers> !apache
[06:29] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:30] <sercik> the green or empty square
[06:30] <dr_willis> Usage: kdesu [Qt-options]  [KDE-options]  command    Runs a program with elevated privileges.
[06:30] <dr_willis> os2mac,  for a GUI app use kdesu
[06:30] <os2mac> tried that and got similiar results
[06:30] <dr_willis> sercik,  check the synaptic settings - be sur that colum is enabled to be shown
[06:31] <dr_willis> os2mac,  you aint ssh'd or telneted in are you?
[06:31] <dr_willis> os2mac,  or doimg somthing else odd?
[06:31] <sercik> yes is enabled and is visible but without square
[06:32] <os2mac> no I am not in ssh or telnet but it's possible that adept_mangler just doesn't like being called from a command prompt.
[06:32] <dr_willis> os2mac,  i rarely use adept_manager
[06:32] <dr_willis> !adept
[06:32] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[06:32] <dr_willis> sudo synaptic    does work fine for me.
[06:33] <dr_willis> aint that great!
[06:33] <dr_willis> :)
[06:33] <sercik> i do kdesu synaptic
[06:33] <sercik> can i try to do gksu synaptic?
[06:33] <frojnd> hello there
[06:33] <dr_willis> kdesu synaptic woks for me also.
[06:34] <frojnd> how can I set konquror so everytime I would start it thhere would be tree view and not icon tree as it is by default ??
[06:34] <sercik> i have loaded synaptic from konsole and i can see a list of error that probably explain the lacks of boxes:
[06:34] <sercik> Warning, failed to load: package-installIcon 'package-install' not present in theme
[06:34] <sercik> Warning, failed to load: package-reinstallIcon 'package-reinstall' not present in theme
[06:34] <dr_willis> gksu synaptic  - also work for me
[06:35] <sercik> i try to search on google
[06:35] <dr_willis> i always install ubuntu-desktop so it probelry grabbed those
[06:36] <sercik> but with edgy there wasn't this problem
[06:36] <sercik> i need to install hundreds of megabytes only to have green boxes??
[06:37] <dr_willis> you expect us to actually kniow the answer to that...
[06:37] <titanix88> sercik: kcontrol->GTK styles-> Select another theme : Human
[06:37] <dr_willis> proberly not.. ya proberly just need to find the right package to install
[06:37] <dr_willis> titanix88,  oh yea - there IS that check box to enable the gtk-qt themes..
[06:37] <sercik> dr_willis: i try to install some gnome related package
[06:38] <sercik> titanix88: i have already see there but thereisn't human theme
[06:38] <sercik> Thereis QT and Raleigh
[06:38] <dr_willis> hmm - human is the default theme i thought
[06:39] <sercik> for gnome!
[06:39] <titanix88> sercik: use another style -> human doesn't work??
[06:39] <sercik> human is not present is list
[06:39] <sercik> Thereis inly  QT and Raleigh
[06:39] <titanix88> sercik: install ubuntu-artworks
[06:39] <sercik> ok thaks!
[06:39] <sercik> after adept finish to upgrade...
[06:42] <DJServers> !find xampp
[06:43] <ubotu> Package/file xampp does not exist in feisty
[06:43] <DJServers> !find phpmyadmin
[06:43] <ubotu> Found: phpmyadmin
[06:43] <DJServers> !info phpmyadmin
[06:43] <ubotu> phpmyadmin: Administrate MySQL over the WWW. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:<IP_ADDRESS>-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3506 kB, installed size 13752 kB
[06:43] <Panda200x> Hey, how do I upgrade to Feisty in Adept (On Dapper) :P
[06:43] <DJServers> !phpmyadmin
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phpmyadmin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <DJServers> !xampp
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <DJServers> what map sould i mount a .iso file??? to play it?
[06:49] <DJServers> in cdrom ?
[06:50] <binks> DJServers: what you stuck on with phpmyadmin
[06:50] <DJServers> o have fix that already
[06:50] <DJServers> but what map sould i mount a .iso file?
[06:51] <DJServers> mayby /media/cdrom0
[06:51] <binks> how do you mean what mapyou lost me
[06:51] <binks> or path sorry
[06:51] <DJServers> no in what map sould i mount a .iso file to play it like a cd ?
[06:52] <binks> !iso
[06:52] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:52] <binks> mount it where you like
[06:53] <DJServers> ok
[06:54] <przemek_> hello
[06:54] <binks> przemek_: hi m8
[06:56] <incorrect> what do i need to install to watch movies from apple?
[06:57] <sercik> !multimedia
[06:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:57] <DJServers> !lampp
[06:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:57] <DJServers> !lamp
[06:57] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:58] <DJServers> !.tar.gz
[06:58] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:59] <binks> DJServers: stop flooding pls goto faq to serach howtos
[06:59] <DJServers> srry
[06:59] <DJServers> but i cant find the right thing
[06:59] <binks> what do you want to acheive
[07:00] <binks> you in dapper or edgy or fiesty
[07:00] <binks> or warty maybe
[07:00] <DJServers> well i need to unpack xampp and then install but i dont now what to inster
[07:01] <yeniklasor> How can I kill "amsn"? It is not giving response now :S
[07:01] <yeniklasor> killall is not working
[07:01] <DJServers> xampp is a webhosting program and i want to install it but i dont now how :P
[07:01] <binks> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223410
[07:02] <franco> hiall
[07:03] <binks> DJServers: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223410
[07:03] <DJServers> lookin
[07:04] <binks> ok :)
[07:04] <franco> how can I uninstall a driver via ndiswrapper? I tried "ndiswrapper -r nameofdriver" but it gave me this error: "couldn't delete nameofdriver; Inappropriate ioctl for device"
[07:14] <jonathan__> holas
[07:14] <Kr4t05> Hrm.
[07:14] <Kr4t05> Any shell-scripters in here?
[07:16] <sercik> ok!! i have solved with synaptic
[07:16] <sercik> i have installed gksu that install others dependencies!
[07:17] <kidizzle> @yeniklasor: ps -A
[07:17] <franco> [REPOST]  how can I uninstall a driver via ndiswrapper? I tried "ndiswrapper -r nameofdriver" but it gave me this error: "couldn't delete nameofdriver; Inappropriate ioctl for device"
[07:17] <kidizzle> get the proc id
[07:18] <kidizzle> kill -9 <proc id>
[07:18] <franco> how could i get the proc id?
[07:19] <DJServers> kmenu -> system -> kInfo Center
[07:19] <vbgunz> Kopete in Feisty still has the Format Toolbar bug where if you hide it, it still shows up :( Is there a fix for this anywhere?
[07:19] <sercik> also ps -ax from konsole
[07:19] <soulrider> franco: try with ksysguard, its a great program, similar tot he widnows task manager (but better)
[07:20] <yeniklasor> kidizzle: thanks
[07:20] <franco> thanks, I'm switching to Linux on my laptop, and these are my first steps
[07:20] <sercik> ps -ax or top from konsole
[07:20] <sercik> or you can do killall apps
[07:20] <kidizzle> franco: i was talking to yenklasor about the proc id
[07:21] <kidizzle> not about ndisdrivers
[07:21] <kidizzle> sry
[07:21] <franco> ah ok, thanks... and sorry :D
[07:22] <franco> so... no idea about how to solve my problem with "unappropriate ioctl for device", uh? :D
[07:24] <kidizzle> not from me, id rather pay $50 and throw intel card in then deal with ndiswrapper
[07:25] <franco> I can understand. On the how-to page, it seems so easy.
[07:25] <franco> (But it's not)
[07:25] <DJServers> lol
[07:25] <kidizzle> sometimes it is
[07:25] <DJServers> reading is the easy part
[07:25] <DJServers> doing it is then hard part
[07:26] <franco> DJServers: agree.
[07:26] <franco> Making a wi-fi usb adapter work on linux, is harder.
[07:27] <Tets> franco: What's the output of "ndiswrapper -l"? "Nameofdriver Invalid Driver!"?
[07:27] <franco> Tets: yeppa.
[07:27] <franco> that's why I tried to uninstall it.
[07:28] <dr_willis> Then it starts going backwards!
[07:28] <dr_willis> :)
[07:28] <dr_willis> saw that on a cartoon the other day
[07:28] <DJServers> lol
[07:28] <Tets> franco: I did some Google search about it, but nothing. Maybe try different version of ndiswrapper.
[07:29] <DJServers> -78 % :P
[07:29] <franco> Tets: it was the last one.
[07:29] <DJServers> o its now on 83% :P almost there! :P
[07:29] <Tets> franco: So try older version ;-) It helps sometimes.
[07:30] <franco> :D
[07:31] <franco> ah, btw. Let's try to solve _another_ problem. My cd-reader doesn't work well. And this is a big problem for installing other apps of kubuntu.Any idea?
[07:31] <DJServers> but you can download the apps
[07:32] <DJServers> or you mean buyt apps ? prof apps? :P
[07:32] <franco> right. But I would like to have all automagic with apt-get :
[07:32] <franco> :p
[07:32] <cpace> hey there everybody
[07:32] <DJServers> ey
[07:32] <Chakersito> hi
[07:32] <franco> You know: you open apt-get, say "install this", and it installs it.
[07:33] <cpace> I have a problem I'm hoping someone has the answer to
[07:33] <DJServers> that be nice you
[07:33] <DJServers> !ask cpace
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask cpace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <DJServers> to lol
[07:33] <DJServers> !ask | cpace
[07:33] <ubotu> cpace: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:33] <cpace> my bad
[07:33] <fogwar> franco: hey im having trouble partitioning my HD.. when i run QTParted it doesn't let me do anything, and I was wondering if hte XP disk will allow me to partition the HD as I need to install XP on it
[07:33] <DJServers> ;)
[07:33] <cpace> I just installed feisty on a system with a wireless adapter
[07:33] <cpace> I know that I need ndiswrapper but it is not installed by default
[07:34] <ian_> y does my konqueror
[07:34] <ian_> An error occurred while loading http://www.yahoo.com:
[07:34] <ian_> Could not connect to host http://www.yahoo.com/.
[07:34] <cpace> I don't have an internet connection to grab it because my wireless device isn't working yet
[07:34] <ian_> help me on thin
[07:34] <ian_> help me on this
[07:34] <ian_> y does my konqueror won't work n says
[07:34] <ian_> An error occurred while loading http://www.yahoo.com:
[07:34] <ian_> Could not connect to host http://www.yahoo.com/.
[07:35] <cpace> ian: can you get to any other webpage?
[07:35] <cpace> like http://www.google.com ?
[07:35] <ian_> no i can't
[07:35] <kraut> moin
[07:35] <DJServers> franco: this  pc is a pentium 2 and whit windows it crashes al the time and whit linux it is sppr fast :P
[07:35] <cpace> can you with firefox?
[07:35] <ian_> i tried but it wont open
[07:35] <ian_> my connection works with other programs
[07:35] <cpace> sounds like you may have something blocking port 80
[07:36] <cpace> like a firewall or something
[07:36] <ian_> just with konquerer
[07:36] <cpace> go to terminal (konsole on kde)
[07:36] <ian_> my kubuntu is just a fresh install from cd just a minute a go
[07:36] <cpace> and type    "telnet www.yahoo.com 80"
[07:36] <cpace> minus the quotes
[07:36] <vonkrolok> hi guys, I would like to know how do I run a script with administrator priviledges
[07:37] <cpace> see if you get a response
[07:37] <vonkrolok> I'm trying to install tex live 2007
[07:37] <blizzzek> Mathe
[07:37] <blizzzek> Mathe
[07:37] <cpace> if you don't get a response then something is probably blocking port 80
[07:37] <cpace> on your system or network
[07:38] <ian_> nothing
[07:38] <vonkrolok> hi guys, I would like to know how do I run a script with administrator priviledges
[07:38] <vonkrolok> I tried 'sudo sh ...' but it doesn't seem to work as expected
[07:39] <GrueTamer> do sudo su - first
[07:39] <cpace> ian:  so it seems you may have something blocking you
[07:39] <GrueTamer> and run the script normally
[07:39] <Chakersito> hi friends, i would like if anybody have or know ow to make a script to change the mac of the eths...
[07:40] <cpace> ian: what distro/version are you running (ex: kubuntu/7.04)
[07:40] <ian_> it just says trying (ip add) then connected to www.yahoo-ht3.akadns.net. then escape character is '^] '.
[07:40] <vonkrolok> thanks
[07:40] <ian_> yup 7.04
[07:41] <cpace> did you install automatix yet?
[07:41] <ian_> nope
[07:41] <ian_> wat is it for
[07:41] <ian_> im new here
[07:41] <dr_willis> hmm - i just got a call from my isp  "Sir weve noticed your system has been doing a lot of Uploading over the last few days"
[07:42] <dr_willis> "would you please double check your wireles router settings and so forth to insure you are not infected by anything you dont intend to run, and if uploading for a long time, throttle the upload speeds"
[07:42] <dr_willis> heh heh..
[07:42] <dr_willis> Busted for Seeding a Linux Iso Torrent!
[07:43] <cpace> automatix gives you some extra packages not included in (k/x)ubuntu
[07:43] <apokryphos> !automatix
[07:43] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:43] <BluesKaj> !automatix
[07:43] <BluesKaj> hehe
[07:43] <cpace> sorry
[07:43] <ian_> hehehe
[07:43] <cpace> guess automatix is a bad word around here
[07:43] <ian_> its ok
[07:43] <cpace> <--- new to this channel
[07:44] <apokryphos> cpace: it is
[07:44] <dr_willis> untill it trashes your system
[07:44] <dr_willis> and it HAS been known to do that
[07:44] <soulrider> join #kopete
[07:44] <soulrider> oops
[07:44] <DexterF> is the 7.04 kernel the same used in the live system?
[07:44] <cpace> I haven't experienced it trashing it yet, I guess I'm lucky
[07:44] <dr_willis> it also has a rather - interesting and flame filled  thread on some of the forums.
[07:44] <dr_willis> cpace,  you are very lucky then
[07:44] <dr_willis> then again with the newer releases of ubuntu the need for automatix is getting less and less
[07:44] <azzco> Hi I've got two soundcards and I want to select one of them... where do I do that?
[07:45] <ian_> i installed ubuntu yesterday n konqueror works fine
[07:45] <cpace> I play with my system a lot though, and don't use it as a primary server or anything
[07:45] <ian_> i installed ubuntu yesterday n konqueror works fine
[07:45] <vonkrolok> dolphin is much better
[07:45] <vonkrolok> hope kde4 will come up soon
[07:45] <dr_willis> i perfer 'mc' :)
[07:45] <cpace> ian: do you know if yout setup a firewall program?
[07:46] <Jack3> how come i cant rip to mp3 in k3b
[07:46] <Jack3> i have libmad0 and libk3b2-mp3 install
[07:46] <Jack3> ed
[07:46] <ian_> i just tried to erase n installed it again today but unfortunately this tym konqueror wont work fine using the net
[07:46] <dr_willis> Jack3,  ya restart k3b after installing those?
[07:46] <Jack3> yes
[07:46] <Jack3> well, unless k3b doesnt restart if i hit the x
[07:46] <ian_> no i dont
[07:46] <Jack3> but it showed the contents of the cd as .ogg
[07:47] <ian_> how do i check if i got one
[07:47] <dr_willis> Jack3, k3b shoed the contents? or konqueror?
[07:47] <Jack3> k3b
[07:47] <ian_> sori new on this environment
[07:47] <vonkrolok> dr_willis: what is mc?
[07:47] <soulrider> is anyone having issues connecting to msn with kopete ?
[07:47] <soulrider> i ahvnt been able to log in for a day now
[07:47] <dr_willis> ~info mc
[07:47] <azzco> Where do I select soundcard to use in kubuntu?
[07:47] <dr_willis> ~info mc
[07:48] <dr_willis> !info mc
[07:48] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-7ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[07:48] <soulrider> lol dr_willis
[07:48] <azzco> soulrider: I'm on MSN now, no problem here (Sweden)
[07:48] <^Rich^> how do i get wireless working? using inspiron 1501
[07:48] <soulrider> =/
[07:48] <soulrider> i casn log in with meebo\
[07:48] <soulrider> but not kopete
[07:48] <DJServers> where can i stop prossesings?
[07:48] <azzco> Hmm... I thought it could be a server that's down or something
[07:48] <DJServers> prosses?
[07:49] <BluesKaj> !wireless | ^Rich^
[07:49] <ubotu> ^Rich^: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:49] <soulrider> DJServers: ksysguard
[07:49] <azzco> DJServers: Kubuntu?
[07:49] <DJServers> yeah
[07:49] <soulrider> DJServers: you can also use killall <name>
[07:49] <azzco> Ctrl+Esc
[07:49] <^Rich^> !wireless | ^Rich^
[07:50] <^Rich^> i know before i did it it. it was just a simple couple of commands
[07:50] <^Rich^> but ill be darned if i can  reember what they were
[07:50] <cpace> sorry...was afk for a few
[07:50] <azzco> I really need help fixing my soundcard...
[07:51] <thirdy> how do get to the performance optimization dialog again?
[07:51] <thirdy> the one wen I installed kunbuntu-desktop
[07:51] <thirdy> kubuntu
[07:51] <^Rich^> is there a step by step on how to do it?
[07:52] <dr_willis> azzco,  and what brand is this sound card?
[07:52] <franco> [REPOST (third and maybe last time, I hope)]  how can I uninstall a driver via ndiswrapper? I tried "ndiswrapper -r nameofdriver" but it gave me this error: "couldn't delete nameofdriver; Inappropriate ioctl for device"
[07:53] <azzco> dr_willis: It's a sweex, I've also got an onbrad HDA Intel which I do not intend to use
[07:53] <dr_willis> azzco,  it would of been best to disable the onboard in bios. befor installing
[07:53] <^Rich^> is there a step by step on how to do it?? please noob here
[07:53] <azzco> dr_willis: I can't really find where to disable it I'm afraid..
[07:53] <dr_willis> never heard of a sweex - so cant help ya much more then suggest check ing the ubuntu forums for that speciifc brand/chipset of sound card
[07:54] <azzco> I've had sound from the sweex soundcard before but is there someway to save the settings from kmix?
[07:54] <dr_willis> im glad under Feisty i can get wirelesing going :)
[07:54] <dr_willis> azzco,  under some other disrto?
[07:54] <franco> dr_willis: you lucky
[07:54] <dr_willis> kmix just sets the volumes.
[07:54] <franco> :D
[07:55] <Weejewel|AFK> "Checking File Systems", how can I disable this? :-)
[07:55] <dr_willis> franco,  yep - intalling fwcutter downloads/installs all the stuff i need.
[07:55] <franco> fwcutter?
[07:55] <dr_willis> Weejewel|AFK,  trust me you dont. :) ya can set the count on the filesystems tobe very high befor a check is forced however.
[07:55] <azzco> Oh... is there some graphical way to switch sound settings?
[07:55] <dr_willis> !info fwcutter
[07:55] <ubotu> Package fwcutter does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:55] <dr_willis> !find fwcutter
[07:55] <ubotu> Found: bcm43xx-fwcutter
[07:55] <dr_willis> !alsa
[07:55] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:55] <Weejewel|AFK> dr_willis, it takes about 30 minutes..
[07:56] <dr_willis> Weejewel|AFK,  you imply you are seeing that on every boot up?
[07:56] <Weejewel|AFK> ya
[07:56] <dr_willis> :)
[07:56] <jf_> i need to uninstall kubuntu what must i do
[07:56] <^Rich^> ok, i have a dell 1501, and CANNOT get wireless working, last time i had this problem, it was a simple command to fix it, i found it on a kubuntu blog, which i cannot remember now.. i have since reinstalled kubuntu and cannot remember how to do it
[07:56] <dr_willis> your drives are either not unmounting properly, or are really munged up.. You are not using XP and that IFS tool to access the linux drives are you?
[07:57] <dr_willis> jf_,  use the Xp install cd's recovery mode and the 'fixmbr' command to remove grub. then repartition/format the linux partitions.
[07:57] <Weejewel|AFK> dr_willis- eh? ;P
[07:57] <dr_willis> !ifs
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <dr_willis> !ext3
[07:57] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[07:57] <dr_willis> Weejewel|AFK,  may want to boot a live cd and use fsck on the partitions.
[07:58] <Weejewel|AFK> it does every time and they are correct
[07:58] <thirdy> how do I reduce eye candy in kubuntu, the one with slide meter
[07:58] <angasule> !DVD
[07:58] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:58] <jf_> all of i windows
[07:59] <dr_willis> Weejewel|AFK,  you got somting goofing up then - or it wouldent be doing that.
[07:59] <^Rich^> you guys arntof any help
[07:59] <Weejewel|AFK> well, it works fine, so cant i disable it?
[07:59] <BluesKaj> thirdy, what eye candy ?
[07:59] <dr_willis> ^Rich^,  wireless is a HUGE topic
[07:59] <soulrider> jf_: why do you wanna remove kubuntu ?
[07:59] <franco> I'm just crazy: I've installed fwcutter without knowing what it is :p
[07:59] <dr_willis> Weejewel|AFK,  i disagree with it 'working fine'  if its checking on my 200+gb drives it only takes a few secs.
[08:00] <Weejewel|AFK> HeHe
[08:00] <Weejewel|AFK> well whatever, it never says something is wrong
[08:00] <Weejewel|AFK> but cant i simply disable it? :-)
[08:00] <dr_willis> Weejewel|AFK,  the system is set to  auto fsck every so many mounts - like 30, that # is changeable.
[08:00] <dr_willis> just boot once and leave it on for days on end. :)
[08:00] <Weejewel|AFK> where is the config file located?
[08:01] <Weejewel|AFK> hmm
[08:01] <Weejewel|AFK> i dont get that part lol =P
[08:01] <dr_willis> its a core part of the boot scripts its not some little trivial setting
[08:01] <Dragnslcr> On the Disk & Filesystem Settings, how can I make a mounted disk readable by a normal user (it's mounting as root:root with 500 permissions)
[08:01] <thirdy> BluesKaj, wen I installed kubuntu-desktop, I got a dialog to optimize KDE
[08:01] <Weejewel|AFK> damn..
[08:01] <thirdy> how do I get to that again?
[08:02] <soulrider> thirdy: i wizard to setup KDE? like, you can select tons of settings aga in?
[08:03] <dr_willis> I ermber that wizard - its not enabled by default in kubuntu
[08:03] <thirdy> aga in?
[08:03] <dr_willis> what was it called...
[08:03] <thirdy> how do I get to that?
[08:03] <dr_willis> id say ask in #kde
[08:03] <thirdy> ok
[08:04] <dr_willis> I find that wizard rather useless.. You can set everything in it from the other theme/settings control panel
[08:04] <dr_willis> so it dosent really do much then give ya a place to set a few settings in one tight area
[08:04] <ferox> does anyone know how to enable/disable systray icons on kde?
[08:05] <stefano_> Hello all, I have an Acer Aspire 5102WLMI notebook and I'm having some problems with my USB mouse. I've searched some info on Google about it and tried the options it gave to me, but unfortunately none worked... did anybody have the same problem with USB devices?
[08:07] <BluesKaj> ferox, right click in the panel.../help/kde handbook
[08:07] <angasule> what's a good DVD authoring program?
[08:08] <BluesKaj> tovid, dvedede
[08:08] <BluesKaj> err devede
[08:08] <titanix88> sercik: solved?
[08:08] <angasule> thanks :)
[08:09] <BluesKaj> someone mentioned avidemux , but Ihaven't tried it
[08:09] <dr_willis> i use that all the time BluesKaj
[08:09] <dr_willis> ti convert videos to play on my gp2x
[08:09] <BluesKaj> my fav is tovid ...comes in both gui and cli versions
[08:10] <angasule> tovid doesn't show up in the search, though
[08:10] <angasule> and devede is gtk2 :/
[08:10] <titanix88> hendaus: wb.
[08:11] <Minataku> Heya, dr_willis
[08:11] <franco> [Simplified repost]  I installed a driver for my wi-fi adapter via ndiswrapper, but I had this message: "Invalid driver". How can I solve this problem and use my wi-fi adapter?
[08:12] <BluesKaj> angasule, http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Tovid_changelog
[08:12] <dr_willis> Minataku,  i just got a call from my ISP.. aparently i was 'uploading a lot  of data' over the last few days. :)
[08:13] <dr_willis> Told them it was a Linux ISO torrent. (which it was) well part of it was.. :)
[08:13] <titanix88> BluesKaj: hey :0
[08:13] <angasule> dr_willis: I would have been much less polite...
[08:13] <angasule> but then, my ISP is borderline criminal
[08:13] <dr_willis> angasule,  but that was the truth.. oddly enough. :) LinuxMint3.0 came out..
[08:14] <pincker> helo everybody
[08:14] <dr_willis> they asked me to throttle down the uploads if they will be going on for a long time.  heh
[08:14] <angasule> dr_willis: but it's none of their business
[08:14] <titanix88> dr_willis : why they care about what u dload or not? isn't that pishing?
[08:14] <Minataku> dr_willis: Heh
[08:14] <pincker> i have a question
[08:14] <Minataku> I've never had an issue like that with mine
[08:14] <dr_willis> titanix88,  aparently it was the Upload that triggered it.
[08:14] <angasule> seriously, if they don't want you to use the bandwidth, why do they sell it?
[08:14] <BluesKaj> hey titanix88
[08:14] <pincker> could you tel me how started nvida configuration panel ?
[08:15] <payam> #ubuntu-se
[08:15] <payam> #ubuntu-ir
[08:15] <llutz> payam: alt-f2: nvidia-settings
[08:15] <titanix88> pincker: "nvidia-settings"
[08:15] <Minataku> dr_willis: I guess they just want you to throttle back, at least they're not threatening you
[08:15] <pincker> ok, i try it
[08:15] <dr_willis> Minataku,  yea - thats what the guy impled. :)
[08:15] <Minataku> ^^
[08:16] <pincker> it works, thanks :)
[08:16] <dr_willis> but i allredy got my iso now..  and some other things as well. heh
[08:16] <Minataku> dr_willis: Find a box and wrap or too busy finding incredibly obscure crap for your wife?
[08:16] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, got a big server ?
[08:16] <payam> llutz:what are you talking about?
[08:16] <thedeviantone> Can anyone assist me with compiling a kernel for SCSI controller support?
[08:16] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  no really. Just  been torenting a linux iso and 2 other torrents this weekend.
[08:16] <llutz> ups, payam sry, was for pincker
[08:17] <dr_willis> Minataku,  got a box. need some bubble wrap.. cleaning up the basement also. looking for any other parts.
[08:17] <BluesKaj> oh really dr_willis, and they chastized you for that ...wow
[08:17] <dr_willis> Minataku,  where are you anyway?
[08:17] <titanix88> isp's are damned in bangladesh to even restrict users from using specific sites.
[08:17] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  yea - i 'think' they might of been thinking  i had a unsecured wireless router. that was their first question.
[08:18] <BluesKaj> ok, shared network
[08:18] <dr_willis> I do have a new laptop with wireless.. that actually COULD of been infected or somthing.
[08:18] <titanix88> dAmned isps >(
[08:18] <dr_willis> wife had turned on her wirleess on it. even tho she is wired
[08:18] <Minataku> dr_willis: Eastern Virginia
[08:18] <BluesKaj> worried about neighbours piggybacking
[08:19] <startswithz_> I recently installed a windows system onto a second harddrive on my kubuntu machine
[08:19] <startswithz_> I was able to successfully boot into both a couple of times
[08:19] <startswithz_> but then the kubuntu system broke
[08:19] <startswithz_> I can't even open the filesystem in knoppix
[08:19] <dr_willis> Minataku,  ok :) at least its not Outer-Mongolia!
[08:19] <dr_willis> Minataku,  just close! :)
[08:19] <Minataku> dr_willis: If you have any other interesting systems that you don't want, rattle them off in PM ;3
[08:19] <dr_willis> Rocky Mountians.. and so on. :)
[08:20] <Minataku> Cool
[08:20] <dr_willis> Minataku,  just an apple 2c, that semi-portable one. and a macSE. and a few C64s
[08:20] <Minataku> Shouldn't cost me too much then
[08:20] <Minataku> SE/30?
[08:20] <dr_willis> got rid of the Ti's  at a rummage sale
[08:20] <dr_willis> Hmm.. Not sure what SE it is.. small screen b/w  external 5mb hd.
[08:20] <dr_willis> 2 floppy drives
[08:21] <Minataku> Hm
[08:21] <dr_willis> it does work :)
[08:21] <dr_willis> wife wanted me to set it up for her.. then she saw the screen
[08:21] <Minataku> Hm... kinda heavy, though, I bet
[08:21] <Minataku> Heh
[08:21] <Minataku> I have a Mac Classic here
[08:21] <Yatsu> Im so glad I made the switch to linux
[08:21] <dr_willis> even got some games on it. Yea its a bit heavy. about  as heavy as a small tv.
[08:21] <Minataku> Hm
[08:22] <Minataku> I'll think over that
[08:22] <dr_willis> since its a monitor built in..
[08:22] <Minataku> I definitely want the HDD at least, though ;3
[08:22] <dr_willis> I got an iMACDV also. :)
[08:22] <dr_willis> hehheh..
[08:22] <titanix88> Yatsu: :)
[08:22] <Minataku> iMACDV?
[08:22] <dr_willis> scsi  5mb :)
[08:22] <dr_willis> Minataku,  one of their Purty "grey" imacs shen they had all the colors a few years back
[08:22] <Minataku> dr_willis: Can always open it up and replace it with a larger one
[08:22] <Minataku> dr_willis: Coo
[08:22] <titanix88> dr_willis : it's a kubuntu support channel! REmember?
[08:23] <dr_willis> ppc 500mhz DVD drive.  my mom may want it however for her email/web surfing. it aint much of an imac - but it does have osx on it.
[08:23] <dr_willis> Kubuntu PPC runs on it. :)
[08:23] <Minataku> dr_willis: Heehee
[08:23] <dr_willis> ppc support got dropped dident it?
[08:23] <Minataku> Thankfully there are other distros still with PPC support
[08:23] <titanix88> dr_willis: bebebe...>(
[08:23] <dr_willis> I SO should of put Kubuntu on the wifes new laptop and told her  it was WindiowsVista