[01:32] <Takyoji> The user listing in Empathy is a bit too spacious (for IRC) and apparently doesn't differentiate between who's away and who isn't..
[01:45] <tonyyarusso> That's because Empathy/Pidgin aren't made for IRC - it's a poorly-done afterthought.
[01:48] <Takyoji> yea
[01:49] <Alpha_Cluster> yeah if you want to do irc use XChat or irssi
[01:49] <Takyoji> otherwise I guess I may also install Lucid on my laptop for testing as well
[01:50] <Takyoji> and I noticed something on the ubuntu-qa mailing list about: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop
[01:50] <Takyoji> Test cases for testing at http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Plans/LaptopTesting
[02:33] <Takyoji> Hah, perfect commercial http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZOeWFBy75A
[02:34]  * Takyoji watches Forrest Gump
[02:52] <Obsidian1723> Anyoone know a simple timer command for bash scripting?
[02:58] <Takyoji> For a countdown, or timing the length of something to execute?
[05:07] <Takyoji> Stupid question: Anyone have problems with tagging pictures on Facebook?
[05:11] <Takyoji> Click "Tag this Photo" for a picture, tag someone, go to the next page, try to tag another person (however it just goes to the next picture instead)
[22:25] <Takyoji> Just point something out if anyone's interested: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/48hours
[22:26] <Takyoji> There's sessions in #ubuntu-classroom today and tomorrow about it
[22:53] <Takyoji> There should be the next session in about 5 hours I believe


[05:46] <Unit193> bluesabre: So far this is what I have https://dpaste.com/C3FMDGVY4, would there a better link?
[10:24] <Unit193> Beta freeze is coming up, might be too late for -screensaver?


[05:32] <didrocks> bdmurray: daily releases are appropriate for SRUs
[05:32] <didrocks> bdmurray: and that one was a manual upload btw with a fixed changelog :/
[05:33] <didrocks> bdmurray: having everything stalled on the SRU side for more than 2 months now and a reject with no reason, can you please explain a little bit more than:
[05:33] <didrocks> "Rejected by Brian Murray: Daily releases are not appropriate for an SRU."
[05:34] <didrocks> also, it seems the files are again deprecated (we can't expect to have the files around for 2 months :/)
[05:35] <didrocks> infinity: should I reupload the bamf manual upload so that it can be reviewed before being rejected based on version number?
[06:10] <wgrant> didrocks: Hmm, why does sru-staging need to be nonvirt? Can't you just copy the binaries?
[06:11] <didrocks> wgrant: would that work, that won't skip powerpc/armhf for instance?
[06:11] <didrocks> as we'll have:
[06:11] <didrocks> daily-build -> binary copy to -> sru-staging -> binary copy to -> distro
[06:12] <wgrant> Right, that would work fine. Non-virt-ness only affects build creation, not copies.
[06:12] <didrocks> ah, so fine without one I guess
[06:13] <didrocks> wgrant: I'll implement that today then, just need to think about the best strategy to only use that ppa for SRUs
[08:11] <xnox> didrocks: wgrant: everything that ends up in ubuntu archive should be compiled on non-virt. If one compiles on virt ppa, copy sources to the distro such that it's rebuild on the distro builders again.
[08:12] <didrocks> xnox: who is telling it's going to be compiled on non-virt?
[08:12] <xnox> didrocks: hm, I guess I miss read the backlog.
[08:12] <didrocks> xnox: we are talking about binary packages copy
[08:13] <didrocks> I just wanted to ensure that if the ppa is non virt and we do a binary package to it, it won't skip the archs that aren't in non virt ppas
[08:13] <xnox> didrocks: I see now. no compilation will happen in sru-staging, just storing the binaries. Nice =))))
[08:13] <didrocks> yep :)
[08:13]  * xnox like & +1
[08:13]  * didrocks points to "already implemented for an hour" :p
[08:14] <didrocks> (only SRUs will follow that extra copy)
[10:00] <cjwatson> wgrant,didrocks: I'm not totally sure I'm comfortable with binaries from virt builds being copied into the archive, what with them being built in a somewhat different environment and all ...
[10:00] <cjwatson> Oh
[10:00] <cjwatson> Sorry, read the whole backlog now :)
[10:00] <didrocks> :)
[10:00] <cjwatson> Yeah, copies through virt are fine
[10:01] <didrocks> I'll just do that for SRU btw for now
[10:01] <didrocks> see how it goes, and if we should do that unconditionnaly
[10:01] <didrocks> I hope we can finally have a raring SRU for unity at some point :p
[12:47] <cjwatson> jibel: I'm considering deploying the autopkgtest/proposed-migration integration today
[12:48] <cjwatson> jibel: I think I have it working, but of course it's a bit hard to tell in dry-run mode because a full test relies on going back and forward to Jenkins
[12:48] <cjwatson> jibel: Would you be available to watch activity on the Jenkins side and let me know if jobs are arriving correctly?
[12:49] <jibel> cjwatson, Yes, I'm available. I'll watch it.
[12:50] <cjwatson> OK.  I'm just doing a few last tests ...
[12:51] <jibel> cjwatson, I disabled the cron entry on lillypilly, you can submit real jobs if you want.
[12:53] <cjwatson> I guess if we aren't doing fully-recursive dependency expansion we still want the occasional cronned run?
[12:57] <jibel> cjwatson, won't it confuse britney to receive results for tests it didn't request?
[12:57] <cjwatson> Shouldn't
[12:58] <cjwatson> As long as any causes from britney-initiated runs don't get lost
[12:59] <jibel> cjwatson, okay, I'll keep it disable for the moment, this way I know that all the requests received by jenkins come from britney. I'll reenable it if needed once we made sure everything is running as expected with britney.
[13:00] <cjwatson> jibel: You should have just got / be about to get a request for evolution-data-server 3.8.3-0ubuntu2
[13:01] <jibel> cjwatson, confirmed: Found publication: evolution-data-server Proposed 3.8.3-0ubuntu2 jr<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:02] <cjwatson> Hm, but nothing in excuses
[13:04] <cjwatson> I might just not have cleared out enough state
[13:04] <cjwatson> Hopefully the next job will do better
[13:08] <cjwatson> jibel: I'm only waiting for amd64 results at the moment.  Handling the multi-architecture case confused me.
[13:21] <cjwatson> OK, well that much seemed to work
[13:21] <cjwatson> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#evolution-data-server
[13:21] <cjwatson> autopkgtest for evolution-data-server 3.8.3-0ubuntu2: PASS
[13:22] <cjwatson> jibel: If I do a request, submit, and collect in quick succession, is the collect guaranteed to give me back the request I just made (even if it's just as "NEW")?
[13:22] <cjwatson> jibel: And for that matter can you remind me whether collect also returns old results?
[13:23] <jibel> cjwatson, once a result as been collected, it is archived and won't be collected a second time.
[13:24] <cjwatson> Ah, so it's synchronous on the collection.  That should be fine
[13:24] <cjwatson> I have a feeling the answer to my first question may be no, though
[13:25] <jibel> cjwatson, if you request/submit/collect in quick succession, I have a doubt, there should be no result at all on the collection
[13:25] <jibel> I'm checking
[13:39] <jibel> cjwatson, answer to your first question is no. for a given package collect won't return any result until the tests have run on all archs.
[13:40] <jibel> cjwatson, but there is the information that a test is running, so I could return it if you need it.
[13:57] <cjwatson> jibel: That would be helpful, but if you think it's the wrong thing to do I can work around it
[14:05] <jibel> cjwatson, not at all, the collect command is not used by anything else than britney. I can do any changes that you find helpful.
[14:33]  * infinity gets a giggle out of backscroll and people continually misreading the SRU PPA virt/non-virt thing. :P
[15:51] <bregma> hey guise who knows what the plans are for a Unity SRU in 13.04?
[16:12] <cjwatson> jibel: It might be an idea to check reverse-build-deps too
[16:13] <cjwatson> Or maybe not, I don't know
[16:13] <cjwatson> Since we care more about whether it breaks users
[16:14] <cjwatson> Yeah, never mind that :)
[16:23] <infinity> didrocks: Please do reupload that, yeah.  I'm inclined to agree with Brian that we don't want "daily builds" as SRUs, the part he missed is that these are tested and "blessed" builds that happen to be yanked from the daily stream.
[16:23] <infinity> didrocks: My objection would just be ugly version numbers and end-user confidence in such, but I suspect I'd lose that argument.
[16:24] <didrocks> infinity: we never had any better test trigger and repetitively ensuring we don't regress than with dailies TBH :)
[16:25] <didrocks> infinity: we are repreparing another SRU daily round, using a sru-staging ppa this time
[16:35] <infinity> didrocks: Awesome.  Thanks for that.  I will try to get it reviewed ASAP anyway, thanks to the shell shock from previous delays.
[16:36] <infinity> didrocks: But I still hate relying on things that *might* disappear, so yay.
[16:36] <didrocks> infinity: yeah, this time it won't happen I hope, with this ppa (so 2 stage copy process) :)
[16:36] <infinity> didrocks: (I actually did review and attempt to accept things last week, which was what led me to throw my hands in the air and say "dude, just do the staging PPA" as I saw LP reject all my hard work)
[16:37] <didrocks> infinity: well, I've been busy lately and I understood from Mirv that you were going to do the review the same day than we uploaded the 2nd batch, hence the "on my too long TODO list"
[16:37] <didrocks> at least, we'll know soon if it's working :)
[17:19] <bdmurray> infinity: If I am remembering correctly, one other issue I had with the changelog for bamf  was that there were two entries in it and there LP bugs in both entries and only the first ones would be auto closed by the janitor.
[17:21] <cjwatson> That's actually not true provided that the package has been in the relevant -proposed suite before
[17:21] <cjwatson> (I think)
[17:21] <cjwatson> Anyhow that's only a signed dpkg-genchanges away :)
[17:23] <infinity> bdmurray: Oh, was the .changes wrong?  I hadn't gotten to looking at it yet.
[17:24] <infinity> bdmurray: Still, that's not what your reject message said. :)
[17:25] <bdmurray> It seems I should have kept better notes to be able to refer to today
[17:26] <infinity> bdmurray: I'm not too concerned.  They're going to blat a whole new set of SRU candidates at us soon enough, and I'll get those reviewed.
[17:27] <infinity> bdmurray: It's just been a comedy of errors trying to get this autolanding stack in.
[17:33] <bdmurray> cjwatson: were you going to submit a Launchpad bug about copy package and phased update percentage?
[17:33] <bdmurray> infinity: okay, I'll still keep better notes next time / save the diff
[18:05] <Trevinho> infinity: any news on unity sru for raring?
[18:11] <infinity> Trevinho: There isn't one in the queue right now, I'm waiting on didrocks to fix up his staging PPA workflow, and we'll have another batch
[18:12] <Trevinho> infinity: ah... I was told days ago that it was in queue...
[18:12] <infinity> Trevinho: And that all got rejected due to the lack of staging PPA, and the files timing out.  So, we're working on making it more foolproof.
[18:12] <Trevinho> infinity: ah, I see
[18:13] <Trevinho> infinity: thanks for the update
[19:07] <cyphermox> can someone please reject libdbusmenu_0.6.1-0ubuntu3.1 from the precise proposed queue, it's wrong...
[19:12] <stgraber> cyphermox: done
[22:32] <phillw> hi, on todays builds for lubuntu we seem to have 'lost' ZRam. Has there been an updated seed file from Julien, or is the builder just having an 'off-day'?
[22:35] <jbicha> phillw: it's listed in the lubuntu manifests
[22:35] <phillw> jbicha: zram-config ... got removed from 13.10 daily build of 17-Jun
[22:36] <phillw> I'll grab the ISO to my server (faster) and check it is still there.
[22:37] <jbicha> you can check the manifests at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/
[22:37] <jbicha> or the build logs at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/lubuntu/saucy/ if something was added or removed, it would be listed there
[22:38] <stgraber> phillw: it's listed in the manifest of all of today's daily, daily-live and daily-preinstalled
[22:43] <phillw> jbicha: stgraber thanks, I've asked the OP to zsync & am also pulling in zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20130617/saucy-desktop-i386.iso.zsync
[22:43] <phillw>  to my server
[23:42] <phillw> is there a way to do a diff between the build on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/lubuntu/saucy/daily-live-20130610.log and http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/lubuntu/saucy/daily-live-20130617.log to just check if it has fallen off? The OP is adamant that it is not in today's image.
[23:46] <jbicha> phillw: if you look at the 0613 log you can see that zram-config was added that day and xscreensaver was dropped; if something else changed it would show up like that in the log
[23:48] <stgraber> phillw: I think it'll benefit everyone here if you confirm issues before bringing them to this channel
[23:48] <stgraber> phillw: anyway, in this specific case, as both jbicha and I have been telling you, zram-config is in your image: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5775623/
[23:48] <phillw> jbicha: this is really wierd, the iso from those days was running ZRam happily, but I'm told it is not there on todays image. The zsync confirms the md5 is correct. Where in the ISO (I've got it mounted in /mnt/loop) would I see it.
[23:49] <phillw> stgraber: ^^
[23:49] <stgraber> phillw: see the link I gave you 30s ago
[23:49] <phillw> stgraber: no, actually in the ISO, please?
[23:50] <stgraber> phillw: please read that paste again
[23:50] <stgraber> carefully
[23:51] <phillw> stgraber: there is no /etc in the ISO
[23:51] <stgraber> phillw: indeed, and if you actually read what I paste, you'll see why and where the listing actually comes from
[23:57] <phillw> stgraber: I'm sorry for being a n00b at this, I've done  mount -t iso9660 -o loop ./saucy-desktop-i386.iso /mnt/loop0
[23:57] <phillw> which has mounted it and 'ls -l /mt/loop0' shows stuff in the directory, but 'find /mnt/loop0 | grep zram' reports nothing
[23:58] <stgraber> phillw: right, and if you had read my paste, you'd have noticed I'm doing a second loop mount to actually see what's in the live file system
[23:58] <phillw> *ls -l /mnt/loop0*
[23:58] <stgraber> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5775623/ <= line 20 and line 23


[02:23] <raichlea> anyone available for a question involving java packages and ubuntu?
[23:18] <mohbana> hello guys


[05:10] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[05:10] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[05:10]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[05:10] <superfly> morning Kilos!
[05:14] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[05:14] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[05:14] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[08:35] <jpm[mobile]> Maaz: is it out yet?
[08:35] <Maaz> jpm[mobile]: *blink*
[09:06]  * tumbleweed reminds people to visit #ubuntu-release-party
[09:58] <superfly> tumbleweed: what, so we can watch everyone asking "is it released yet?!"
[10:03] <zeref> lulz
[10:04]  * drubin forgot today was release today
[10:28] <tumbleweed> superfly: and get kicked when they announce URLs
[13:32] <tumbleweed> http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/ rather neat
[13:32] <tumbleweed> (it released btw)
[13:35] <superfly> wow, that's pretty awesome
[15:09] <superfly> w00t, downloading ISOs
[15:11] <zeref> o0o0
[15:28] <inetpro> good evening
[15:29] <inetpro> superfly: let me know how the upgrade goes or are you planning to do a fresh install?
[15:32] <superfly> inetpro: I upgraded to beta 1, I'm not going to reinstall
[15:32] <superfly> zeref: 4Mbps uncapped FTW
[15:32] <inetpro> superfly: ah, so you should almost be up to date then?
[15:33] <inetpro> superfly: any new issues yet?
[15:33] <inetpro> superfly: or nice improvements?
[15:33] <zeref> superfly, NICE
[15:33] <zeref> i'll be getting 11.10 later tonightz
[15:34] <superfly> inetpro: yeah, almost up-to-date
[15:34] <superfly> but Kmail2 is still a pile of steaming dogpoo
[15:36]  * inetpro will stick to Thunderbird until one day when superfly raves about kmail2
[15:52]  * nuvolari will use the thunderbird in the tour :P
[15:53] <nuvolari> ok, home time
[15:53] <Maaz> nuvolari: By the way, magespawn on freenode told me "tell nuvolari to have a look at oracle.com/javamagazine" 1 day, 22 hours, 17 minutes and 40 seconds ago
[15:53] <nuvolari> Maaz: tell magespawn cool! thanks, I'll have a look
[15:53] <Maaz> nuvolari: Sure, I'll tell magespawn on freenode
[16:01] <superfly> evening nuvolari
[18:08] <Kilos> evening all
[18:08] <Kilos> Maaz,  coffee on
[18:08]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[18:08] <superfly> hi Kilos
[18:08] <superfly> you want me to mail Ubuntu to you again?
[18:09] <Kilos> yes please superfly
[18:09] <superfly> Kilos: which ones do you want?
[18:09] <Kilos> will try give kubuntu a bit more time to sink in this time and wont let ian steal it
[18:11] <Kilos> ubuntu, kubuntu i think will be great ty superfly
[18:12] <superfly> OK
[18:12] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:12] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[18:12] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[18:12] <superfly> Kilos: I'm downloading them all at the moment, but we're moving this weekend, so it'll only be next week or the week after
[18:13] <Kilos> are you almost packed for your move superfly
[18:13] <Kilos> no rush my friend ty
[18:14]  * Kilos hates moving
[18:15] <Kilos> haai inetpro lewe jy nog??
[18:16] <Kilos> the more ubuntu advances the smaller this channel gets
[18:16] <Kilos> sigh
[18:19] <superfly> Kilos: well, we're moving in bits and pieces, but all the big bits and large pieces are moving this saturday
[18:20] <Kilos> sterkte
[18:21] <superfly> dankie
[18:26] <zeref> hmmmm
[18:32] <superfly> evening Maaz
[18:32] <superfly> *magespawn
[18:32] <magespawn> hi superfly
[18:33] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[18:33] <superfly> upgraded yet?
[18:33] <magespawn> the one in the shop was busy when i left.
[18:33] <superfly> good man
[18:33] <superfly> ;-)
[18:34] <magespawn> i keep my laptop on 10.04
[18:46] <superfly> 3 more ISOs, including this one, and then I have Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Ubuntu Server, both 32 and 64 bit.
[18:47] <Kilos> what speed superfly
[18:48] <magespawn> hi Kilos did not even see you.
[18:48] <superfly> 400 to 420 KB/s
[18:48] <Kilos> lol
[18:49] <Kilos> thats hsdpa speed
[18:49] <superfly> Kilos: in other words, I'm getting close to my 4Mbps
[18:49] <Kilos> nee man
[18:49] <Kilos> under half a meg/s
[18:50] <superfly> Kilos: Mbps != MB/s
[18:50] <superfly> Mbps = Megabits per second
[18:50] <superfly> MB/s = MegaBytes per second
[18:50] <Kilos> 400 KB/s is under half a m/s?
[18:50] <magespawn> connection speed and actual download speed are different
[18:50] <superfly> Kilos: yes, it is
[18:51] <Kilos> 4000 kB/s is megs
[18:51] <superfly> Kilos: yes, but line speed is measures in BITS per second, not BYTES per second
[18:51] <Kilos> im lost now
[18:51] <Kilos> did you mean 400 or 4000KB/s
[18:51] <magespawn> 8 bites to a byte
[18:52] <superfly> a bit is the single smallest value in computers
[18:52] <Kilos> yes
[18:52] <superfly> Kilos: while a byte is 8 bits
[18:52] <Kilos> yes
[18:52] <superfly> ADSL speed is measures in bits per second
[18:53] <Kilos> oh thats even slower than bytes
[18:53] <superfly> but downloads are usually talked about in bytes per second
[18:53] <superfly> because a byte is how computers actually work
[18:54] <magespawn> i usually get 109 on my 1 meg line.
[18:54] <Kilos> yes i understand the bits and bytes part, but you lose me when you say you getting 400KB/s sec and relate that to 4m/s
[18:55] <Kilos> i get a max of 350kB/s and never near 1m?s
[18:55] <superfly> Kilos: when you send data over a network, the data is not just shoved down the network cable, it is first divided up into packets
[18:56] <superfly> each of those packets has a little bit of data attached to it, to tell the receiving computer how to put all the data back together
[18:56] <superfly> so when we talk about Mbps, we're talking about the data, plus the extra bit of information associated with those packets
[18:57] <superfly> and when we talk about KB/s, we're talking about just the data you're sending, not the extra information
[18:57] <Kilos> oh mbits/sec
[18:57] <Kilos> sorry i slow
[18:57] <Kilos> thats 8 times slower than MB/s
[19:01] <Kilos> hi amanica
[19:05] <amanica> hi Kilos
[19:05] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight. see ya morrow , of and on
[19:05] <amanica> thx my adsl was down for a while, turns out it is on again!!!! thx
[19:05] <superfly> I think he still doesn't quite get it
[19:05] <superfly> amanica: just in time for the new release ;-)
[19:06] <amanica> yeah!
[19:06] <amanica> my torrents went down that is how I noticed to start with
[19:08] <magespawn> superfly dropping people in the deep end does tend to cover them information.
[19:11] <magespawn> night all.
[19:20] <inetpro> guten abend
[19:35] <zeref> hurrrrmmm
[19:42] <zeref> suddenly, no internet
[23:35] <tumbleweed> shiny http://thenewubuntu.com/


[01:07] <studio-user434> I'd like to allow desktop sharing on ubuntu studio but that software doesn't seem to be installed.  what package is it?
[01:15] <OvenWerks> not sure but also ask in #xubuntu
[04:59] <joegiampaoli> doing a clean install of 16.04 LTS, NVIDIA binary drivers are not installing through the Additional Drivers GUI, I did click apply changes, nothing happening, progress bar is stuck at the begining...


[00:06] <Edgar1> it seems no one is available
[11:04] <akgraner> what's the wiki link?
[11:05] <pgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Specs/KarmicBetterSuspendResume
[11:06] <akgraner> thank you !
[12:54] <juliux> hi
[12:54] <juliux> any chance to get ipmisensors working with ubuntu?
[15:30] <pkern> Would it be possible to have the mainline PPA be more PPA-like and apt-get'able for releases like 2.6.30.x?
[22:18] <franczen> Hello
[22:19] <franczen> Can I check somewhere whether my atheros wlan card is supported by the mac80211 stack?
[22:19] <franczen> It doesn't work since jaunty


[02:49] <__Kevin__> is anyone else having a recent issue with wifi?
[03:39] <__Kevin__> also I can't connect my google account
[03:44] <valorie> __Kevin__: you are not the only one
[03:44] <valorie> see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1667961
[03:44] <valorie> please add your information
[03:47] <__Kevin__> should I just comment saying I'm experiencing the same issue?
[03:50] <valorie> if that's your only input, yes
[03:50] <valorie> but the more information you can add, the better
[03:52] <__Kevin__> I don't really know what to add, I installed before the official beta 1 was released, so I was able to install on wifi, but after updating, I've since had to use ethernet to use internet, so I don't really know what else to add other than I'm experiencing the same problem. Sorry.
[03:54] <valorie> which flavor you are using would be good info
[03:54] <__Kevin__> i mentioned i was using Ubuntu 17.04
[03:55] <__Kevin__> I wanted to try out Unity 8, but the only applications i can really open at the moment are the terminal and settings.
[03:56] <valorie> thanks!
[03:57] <__Kevin__> no problem!
[09:07] <Volkodav> where do I activate shade window option?
[09:20] <Volkodav> can't find it in settings


[00:32] <kazra> Hi all. Just wanted to confirm whether it is possible to create a gateway server with only 1 NIC (I don't think it is, but would like to check)
[00:33] <ScottK> I'm pretty sure you can by binding both the internal and external networks to the NIC.
[00:33] <ScottK> It's better and easier to use two NICs, however.
[00:34] <zul> definently easier to do with 2 nics besides nics are dirt cheap
[00:35] <kazra> Yeah, I'm short on NICs at the moment. :-P When you say bind both internal and external...how would I go about that?
[00:39] <Nafallo> just get a managed switch and use vlans :-)
[00:39] <kazra> Actually since I'm doing this on a VM I just realized I can add another network adaptor. *Slaps head*. Thanks guys.
[00:40] <Nafallo> lol
[05:57] <antdedyet> Hrmmph... kvm reboots my machine when I run an image.
[05:59]  * antdedyet heads off to ubuntuforums.org
[08:54] <J-_> How hard is it to configure a relay smtp mail server?
[14:02]  * TwigEther waves
[14:03] <TwigEther> I'm having a bit of trouble with my ubuntu server install, specifically with mdadm. Every time I reboot, if I want to use mdadm I have to "dpkg-reconfigure" it to get device nodes created and for mdadm --monitor to start running. Anyone else had similar problems? :o
[18:02] <Gargoyle> hello


[14:18] <bittin> good afternoon :)
[14:29] <cpaelzer> hi
[14:29] <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
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[14:29] <sarnold> good morning
[14:30] <cpaelzer> ping didrocks sarnold jamespage doko ddstreet - MIR Meeting
[14:30] <cpaelzer> hi sarnold
[14:30] <ddstreet> o/
[14:30] <sarnold> hey cpaelzer, ddstreet, bittin :)
[14:30] <didrocks> hey o/ (in a meeting, but will try to follow)
[14:30] <cpaelzer> thanks for the FYI, we will talk CAPSLOCK to yell over that other meeting then :-)
[14:31] <cpaelzer> #topic Review of previous action items
[14:31] <didrocks> haha
[14:31] <sarnold> hehe
[14:31] <cpaelzer> no actions logged AFAIK
[14:31] <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches
[14:31] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[14:31] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[14:31] <cpaelzer> jamespage: might not be here, but he has let me know about cherrypy
[14:32] <sarnold> (no progress on backuppc)
[14:32] <cpaelzer> and as you see plenty of cases already got in a good state
[14:32] <cpaelzer> arr sarnold - I'm supposed to backuppc-annoy you so you do the review - not vice versa
[14:32] <cpaelzer> :-P
[14:32] <sarnold> hhehe
[14:32] <cpaelzer> so as we assumed for cherrypy and depdendencies this is driven by jamespage
[14:32] <cpaelzer> he assumed that two of them might need security review eventually
[14:33] <cpaelzer> but most of them look like trivial and safe python libs
[14:33] <cpaelzer> the other new but expected thing here is pacemakre -> fence-agents
[14:33] <cpaelzer> The problem is in the links, we have multiple MIR bugs for that
[14:33] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fence-agents/+bug/897492 is the old one
[14:34] <cpaelzer> But https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fence-agents/+bug/1927004 is the new one
[14:34] <sarnold> six digits, old indeed
[14:34] <cpaelzer> so the tool lists that as "approved" but in reality it is waiting on security
[14:34] <bittin> 2011 so pretty old
[14:34] <cpaelzer> It is all good, IMHO the bad coloring/link isn't too bad unless we'd loose the ability to handle things
[14:35] <cpaelzer> OTOH if someone wants to hack som code for component mismatches let us know
[14:35] <cpaelzer> The rest here are all old/known cases or false-positives
[14:35] <cpaelzer> doko: was there feedback on maas->ipmitool ?
[14:36] <cpaelzer> you said you wanted to discuss that with xnox again
[14:36] <cpaelzer> hmm, memory-corruption - or did I already give in and said I'd look at it for server
[14:36]  * cpaelzer checks logs
[14:37] <cpaelzer> I was right, starting with the clarification between doo/xnox was the plan
[14:37] <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs
[14:37] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:38] <bittin>  [MIR] flashrom + libftdi
[14:38] <bittin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashrom/+bug/1912371
[14:38] <cpaelzer> yep
[14:38] <jamespage> o/
[14:39] <sarnold> hey jamespage :)
[14:39] <cpaelzer> this (libfdti) was on doko to complete from the meeting on first of june
[14:39] <bittin> jamespage: we talked about wanting status of cherrypi from you?
[14:40] <cpaelzer> I see no update, but unfortunately he didn't show up yet to answer our questions
[14:40] <cpaelzer> I'd keep it with him as it is a foundations topic anyway - he'll pickup the highlight later onw
[14:41] <cpaelzer> jamespage: yeah please feel free to read the backlog above if I said anything wrong abyout cherrypy3
[14:41] <cpaelzer> until then
[14:41] <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
[14:41] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:41] <jamespage> I think only one will need security review but I also had feedback on the package itself
[14:42] <cpaelzer> thanks for confirming jamespage
[14:42] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ledmon/+bug/1794219 was another one on doko's todo list without an update
[14:42] <cpaelzer> sorry doko a lot of old things to highlight you on :-/
[14:43] <cpaelzer> the other oen in incomplete bugs is
[14:43] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-cheroot/+bug/1930111
[14:43] <cpaelzer> which seems related to the cherrypy3 context
[14:43] <bittin> [Rationale]
[14:43] <bittin> Dependencies of the new cherrypy3 18.6.0-1 release.
[14:43] <cpaelzer> so that is already in the hands of jamespage
[14:43] <bittin> so yeah
[14:44] <cpaelzer> well, it seems today was a meeting with no new tasks then
[14:44] <cpaelzer> \o/
[14:44] <jamespage> hurrah!
[14:44] <bittin> :p
[14:44] <sarnold> huzzah!
[14:44] <cpaelzer> some old ones for jamespage and doko which are all fine to complete until next week
[14:44] <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?
[14:44] <cpaelzer> nothig else from me
[14:44] <sarnold> nothing from me
[14:44] <didrocks> nothing either
[14:44] <jamespage> nope
[14:44] <bittin> nope i see GNOME 40.2 trickling in and other things :)
[14:44] <cpaelzer> except maye - @sarnold did you do backuppc since 10 minutes ago
[14:45] <bittin> but don't have anything to discuss
[14:45] <sarnold> cpaelzer: indeed no :) hehe
[14:45] <cpaelzer> yeah bittin; I've seen plenty of mid-sized things in impish-excuse but nothing that seems to explode toward MIR/Main-Inclusion atm
[14:45] <cpaelzer> ok then, thank you all for you time keeping this queue clean and handled fast
[14:46] <bittin> well i think the plan is to package 41 for impish when thats out in September and have that as default
[14:46] <cpaelzer> always good to know bittin
[14:46] <cpaelzer> bittin: would that be worth an entry in https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/impish-indri-release-schedule/18540 ?
[14:47] <cpaelzer> In regard to the MIR Team meeting content I'd close here then ...
[14:47] <sarnold> that sounds ambitious
[14:47] <cpaelzer> #endmeeting
[14:47] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 14:47:30 UTC.  Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-06-08-14.29.moin.txt
[14:47] <sarnold> thanks cpaelzer, all :)
[14:47] <bittin> cpaelzer: good question as i am mostly doing translations and testing and only become an Ubuntu member recently like 3 weeks ago i can't really answer that but that was kenvandine s answer in one of the Ubuntu On Airs on Youtube
[14:47] <cpaelzer> feel free to discuss gnome 41, but that almost is more a #ubuntu-release discussion than here
[14:48] <bittin> well i don't really have much to discuss right now but yeah
[14:48] <cpaelzer> well then thanks for passing that info to us bittin
[14:48] <cpaelzer> have fun everyone!
[14:48] <didrocks> you too!
[14:49] <bittin> same to you all
[14:49] <bittin> cyas