[16:00] <KM0201> odix: usr13 thats weird, i have 11.04 (granted, its Lubuntu) and i have xrandr
[16:00] <ikonia> glda19: put your data on your linux partition,
[16:00] <glda19> sudokill, how can i do that
[16:00] <BrianMBI> I would like to share how run PacketTracer 5.3 in Ubuntu without it looking horrible. http://geekingitup.wordpress.com/2010/07/20/cisco-packet-tracer-5-3-in-ubuntu-10-04/
[16:00] <bilig> bump
[16:00] <odix> hmm
[16:01] <odix> isntalled server utils usr
[16:01] <bilig> does anyone now how to backup home folder in ubuntu if it is encrypted
[16:01] <glda19> ikonia, why to put the data on linux partion
[16:01] <ikonia> glda19: what format are you storing your mails, imap ? pop3 ?
[16:01] <ILoatheVista> Ack, where do I uninstall packages?!
[16:01] <odix> man im thinking a reinstall is necesarry now
[16:01] <glda19> ikonia,  both
[16:01] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: synaptic, ubuntu software center, apt-get... there's several places
[16:01] <j416> what is the command to install things like in the ubuntu installer, like lamp-server ?
[16:01] <j416> there is some command that will grab stuff, right?
[16:01] <ikonia> glda19: ok - so then there isn't a problem as mails are stored on the server, not locally
[16:02] <j416> t..something
[16:02] <odix> j416 apt-get ?
[16:02] <j416> odix: there is a wrapper
[16:02] <ikonia> glda19: just use thunderbird in both Ubuntu and Linux and connect to the mail server - there is no need to "share data"
[16:02] <bazhang> j416, tasksel you mean?
[16:02] <odix> ok, so i think ill just reinstall x windows sytem now, whats the command for htat ?
[16:02] <usr13> bilig: Something like:  tar czvf home-files.tgz ../
[16:02] <j416> bazhang: that's it! thanks  :)
[16:02] <glda19> ikonia i have also a pop3
[16:02] <usr13> bilig: Something like:  tar czvf /media/disk/home-files.tgz ../
[16:02] <ikonia> glda19: set it to not remove emails from the server until manually deleted
[16:02] <odix> actually, is there a cmd to chk all packages, reinstall if necesarry, i already booted fom cd and did rescue broken packages
[16:03] <usr13> bilig: tar czvf /media/disk/Documents.tgz Documents/
[16:03] <ILoatheVista> KM0201, okay...you might be able to help a noob find the most painless way...in order to install restricted-extras I have to get rid of the libav codecs and another package that escapes me at the moment...suggestions?
[16:04] <ILoatheVista> I am a noob, be gentle.
[16:04] <bilig> usr13, thanks in fact i dont really want to compress, i just need to remove the encryption and i've read that it can only be done by creating a new user
[16:04] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: so?... you don't really need those codecs w/ restricted-extras installed (or you shouldn't anyway)
[16:04] <usr13> bilig: tar cvf /media/disk/Documents.bak Documents/
[16:04] <odix> im grabbing xorg-server,. anythign else i need ?
[16:04] <glda19> ikonia, reading mail is noth a problem
[16:04] <Fudge> why do you need to get rid of them ILoatheVista
[16:04] <ikonia> glda19: then what is the problem ?
[16:05] <Fudge> anyone aware of things that may slow down authentication on a gigabit network for a home ubuntu server?
[16:05] <glda19> ikonia, did you use ligthning
[16:05] <odix> usr where ya at ;p
[16:05] <ikonia> Fudge: many things, tell us your problem
[16:05] <ILoatheVista> When I attempt to install the restricted extras from the software center it tells me I need to get rid of them before they can install them, Fudge and KM0201.
[16:05] <ikonia> glda19: I have done
[16:05] <usr13> Fudge: Not haveing a 10/100/1000 router or NIC(s)
[16:05] <bilig> usr13, ok so with that the content i backup will be unencrypted?
[16:05] <glda19> what ikonia ?
[16:05] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[16:06] <ikonia> glda19: "I have used lightning"
[16:06] <usr13> bilig: I don't think so.  Try it and see.
[16:06] <glda19> but now nany mory ikonia
[16:06] <ikonia> glda19: what ?
[16:06] <ILoatheVista> The latest and greatest downloadable on the front page of Ubuntu, KM0201. :)
[16:06] <usr13> bilig: Just do a small folder first and see what you get.
[16:06] <glda19> ikonia, did you use it now
[16:07] <bilig> usr13, ok
[16:07] <Fudge> my friend has got bit nics and 16 port gb switch
[16:07] <odix> aight back in x
[16:07] <odix> lets see what happens after reboot
[16:07] <sudokill> ILoatheVista, try searching and removing them in synaptic package manager
[16:07] <ikonia> glda19: I'm fed up of trying to get information from you to help you, so - sort yourself out
[16:07] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: well, thats not a very good answer, because you can still download 10.04.. but anyway.. open up a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"  it will remove the conflicts and install the new software (frankly, ubuntu software center should have done this also)
[16:08] <usr13> Fudge: If he really has 10/100/1000 NICs and a 10/100/1000 router, I don't know why it wouldn't be fast.
[16:08] <Senjai> Guys, okay, when i install the driver, dual monitors dont work, when i uninstall it they do work. I get this error with the driver installed. http://tinypic.com/r/2ztgl0o/7 does anyone know whats wrong?
[16:09] <glda19> ikonia, i use lithning and everything works fine. i could read my agenda and task in xp and linux
[16:09] <ikonia> glda19: I'm not interested any more
[16:09] <Senjai> http://oi51.tinypic.com/2ztgl0o.jpg for the direct image, tinypic resizes it weird
[16:09] <KM0201> sudokill: ILoatheVista tracking down the packages one by one in the package manager to remove them, defeats the purpose of the package manager.. it's designed to do that automatically (I'm not sure why Ubuntu software center wouldn't to be truthful)
[16:10] <Fudge> i think he may be using putty or something, states lag between username and password prompt
[16:10] <duvel> Senjai that's beautiful, is that ubuntu-media ?
[16:10] <sudokill> idk thought it might be a workaround if it didnt work
[16:10] <jigsaw> hi fudge, all
[16:10] <duvel> hi jigsaw, all
[16:10] <ikonia> Fudge: that's quite common for dns resolution/reverse dns resolution problems
[16:10] <KM0201> sudokill: if its not working, then he's doin something wrong.. thats what the package manager is designed to do.
[16:10] <Senjai> duvel, ubuntu studio, but i still cant solve this :/
[16:10] <duvel> Senjai: What's the problem.. Sorry, wasn't following.
[16:11] <jigsaw> yes using putty
[16:11] <vmcurious> If i have a headless ubuntu server and i run virtual machines on the server, is it possible to have a desktop ubuntu VM present the graphical desktop on the same machine (there would be a monitor attached to the PC)?  I was having trouble trying to make google understand my question
[16:11] <Senjai> I cant use dual monitors
[16:11] <jigsaw> tis i with the lag :-o
[16:11] <duvel> Senjai: Which graphics card are you using ?
[16:11] <Fudge> ikonia  would there be any dns issues if he is using lan ip's?
[16:11] <Senjai> duvel, it wont recognize my external monitor with the propriertary driver (the newest version)
[16:11] <ikonia> Fudge: yes
[16:11] <ILoatheVista> sudokill, KM0201, sorry!  I just figured out what was going on.  It was *warning* me that when I installed the restricted extras is was going to take out those packages for me.  I am so used to a sucky Windows system I thought I had to do it myself...
[16:11] <Senjai> duvel, without it works just fine though.. ATI Radeon HD 3670 Mobility
[16:11] <Fudge> ok ikonia  thats good thanks for the help m8
[16:12] <sudokill> ILoatheVista, yea ubuntu does a lot for you
[16:12] <Senjai> duvel, without the driver it works, with it, it doesnt
[16:12] <sudokill> compared to windows
[16:12] <duvel> Senjai: Hmm, I see. Do you absolutely need the proprietary drivers?
[16:12] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: ok, that makes sense...
[16:12] <Senjai> duvel, not that i can tell
[16:12] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: i should say, that makes more sense...
[16:12] <Senjai> duvel, minecraft doesnt have a noticeable performance hit (the best quality game i have on ubuntu)
[16:12] <Fudge> you know the worse thing about using windows, which is rarely. this isnt a bash... i keep going to switch to another desktop or push an app to it and there is only one desktop....
[16:12] <glda19> how use the last version ot thunderbird with the last version of ligthning
[16:13] <ikonia> glda19: use packages supplied in the ubuntu repo
[16:13] <duvel> Senjai: LOL. I'd say just used the non-proprietary then. It's a sad answer but... If it works without them, leave it be :)
[16:13] <usr13> Fudge:  Could be that nameserver is down or not responding.  Check first on the list /etc/resolv.conf
[16:13] <Senjai> .. lol
[16:13] <glda19> ikonia leave it
[16:13] <Senjai> duvel, does ubuntu come with stock drivers or something/
[16:13] <ikonia> glda19: I'm telling you to use the supported packaged versions in the ubuntu repos - not other versions
[16:13] <ikonia> glda19: rather than asking over and over again, use the packaged versions that are supported
[16:14] <duvel> Senjai: Ubuntu-studio might?
[16:14] <sudokill> Senjai, graphics drivers?
[16:14] <Fudge> tks usr13
[16:14] <Senjai> duvel, perhaps, didn't check..
[16:14] <usr13> Fudge: If the router using or  giving out a nameserver that is bogus, it will be slow to resolve doman names.
[16:14] <glda19> ikonia i used the stable verdio 5.0
[16:14] <Senjai> sudokill, sorry? I installed the proprietary ones from ATI
[16:14] <ILoatheVista> KM0201, this is an XPS One [Red] that I got from Dell in 2008.  I had Vista [insert sarcastic air quotes here] ULTIMATE and nothing but headaches.  I had a friend tell me to just jump into Ubuntu...I'm still in the "getting used to things mode."
[16:14] <ikonia> glda19: ok - so there you go then, using the 2 packages versions should be no problem
[16:15] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: your friend is an idiot... please tell me you're dual booting
[16:15] <ILoatheVista> I am.
[16:15] <glda19> ikonia, you don't understand it i think
[16:15] <sudokill> ILoatheVista, you'll get used to ubuntu quickly
[16:15] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: good... going cold turkey to a new OS, is a good way to reinstall Windows in less than 3 days.
[16:15] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: just use it, and only use vista when ou absolutely can't get something to work.
[16:15] <ILoatheVista> KM0201, I am.  I thought I would try it out to make sure everything worked, first.
[16:16] <usr13> Fudge: I thought you were talking about the LAN speeds.  If you are talking about accessing the outside, (the internet), getting a gb router and gb NICs are not going to make a difference.  If it was 1.5mbps before it will be 1.5mbps after
[16:16] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: did you install w/ Wubi?
[16:16] <ILoatheVista> KM0201, Yep.
[16:16]  * KM0201 sighs
[16:16] <Senjai> Okay uninstalled the driver
[16:16] <Senjai> restarting yet again
[16:16] <bluj> hi... how can i see the filelist a(n) (uninstalled) package will install?
[16:17] <dyd>  guys i'm trying to have some fun with python, coding a little game; i wanted to create some pixel style images for the characters, do you know any good editor?
[16:17] <ILoatheVista> KM0201, sigh as in "uh-oh" or sigh as in "relief"? LOL
[16:17] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: as in "uh-oh".. wubi si a train wreck.
[16:17] <ILoatheVista> Crap.
[16:17] <edbian> dyd: gimp ?
[16:18] <KM0201> !info gimp
[16:18] <KM0201> i kinda miss gimp, don't understand why they removed it from the default install.
[16:18] <dyd> edbian: yea i'm using that one now, but i was wondering if there's anything "smaller", like mspaint maybe?
[16:19] <KM0201> it is kinda bloated though, and as the live cd gets bigger and bigger, a program that size becomes a necessary sacrifice
[16:19] <Senjai> interesting
[16:19] <edbian> KM0201: I hate how people criticize it for not being photoshop all the time
[16:19] <Senjai> duvel, well it works perfeclty, so sad :(
[16:19] <sudokill> KM0201, i like gimp, i just cant wait until they change to a single UI like photoshop
[16:19] <KM0201> edbian: i think thats one of its advantages.. :)
[16:19] <sudokill> the multiple windows of gimp is what everyone hates
[16:19] <sudokill> such a mess
[16:19] <[D]rammer> <?php echo ('Hello Everyone'); ?> :D
[16:19] <KM0201> sudokill: the GUI is fine, i actually prefer it... GIMP is just as powerful as PS, it's just different, and it has a STEEP learning curve.
[16:19] <ILoatheVista> KM0201, it really wouldn't be any different than what I experienced with Vista...there were days when I couldn't keep Windows Explorer stable long enough to COPY FILES...sometimes my system backups would take days and I was virus/spyware/malware free.
[16:20] <ILoatheVista> Okay...maybe hours...not days...felt like days.
[16:20] <sudokill> ILoatheVista, if youve only just installed ubuntu if i was you i'd do a proper install format the hwole drive its not hard to get used to
[16:20] <sudokill> if vista was that bad
[16:20] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: well.. my biggest problem w/ Wubi, is if something happens to Windows, there's a good chance it will brick both OS's, if something happens to Ubuntu, there's a good chance it will brick both OS's.. if you have a traditional dual boot system, you should usually be able to boot at least one of the OS's.
[16:20] <usr13> If you use gimp's hot keys, it's very fast to change modes.  It is very powerful
[16:21] <sudokill> otherwise youve got a mess, with an ntfs filesystem
[16:21] <KM0201> i've used Gimp a long time.. .couldn't imagine using PS now.. even w/ the "multi windows".. which doesn't bother me at all.
[16:21] <sudokill> KM0201, theyre bringing single window in next verison i think, maybe even in the beta
[16:22] <KM0201> sudokill: an unecessary change IMO.
[16:22] <sudokill> im pretty sure you'll be able to switch
[16:22] <IdleOne> This gimp convo would be perfect for #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:22] <sudokill> ^
[16:22] <usr13> sudokill: We should go to #ubuntu-offtopic with this, but I don't see how they can cram it all into one window...
[16:23] <sudokill> easily... lol ok ill stop
[16:25] <vmcurious> here is maybe a better form of my question:  does KVM in ubuntu server provide "hypervisor" style of virtualization?  Meaning, can I normally be running  a few headless virtual server appliances on a machine, but occasionally start up a ubuntu desktop vm appliance locally on the machine and have a segregated gui environment?
[16:25] <ikonia> vmcurious: kvm is a hypervisor
[16:25] <stephanmg> xserver-xorg-video upgrade slow down my GPU? seems so it did somehow
[16:26] <vmcurious> ikonia: So does that make my scenario possible then?
[16:26] <ikonia> vmcurious: I don't understand what you're actually asking
[16:26] <ikonia> vmcurious: as I read it, it doesn't make sense
[16:28] <glda19> ikonia, the problem is that the add-*on ligthning isn't working as before
[16:28] <Janusman> I'm moving to a new laptop and have some paid software (via the Ubuntu software center), how do I transfer that onto the new machine?
[16:28] <ikonia> glda19: did you get the lightning package out of the ubuntu repos ?
[16:28] <vmcurious> ikonia:  so i have 1 physical machine, on which i want to normally be running headless server appliances.  Occasionally I would want to start up a graphical desktop environment on the same machine, but prefereably have it segregated into its own VM...i can describe my use case if necessary
[16:28] <KM0201> Janusman: hmm thats interesting... not sure on that one
[16:28] <ikonia> Janusman: just re-download it
[16:29] <IdleOne> Janusman: when you redownload it will ask for the "key" you were given after purchase
[16:29] <ikonia> vmcurious: that's just multiple vm's, you have one vm as a server, although the most obvious solution would be to have the host OS just start a desktop when you need it
[16:29] <glda19> ikonia, now i have to make my one instal version so that i can read it in xp and linux
[16:30] <ikonia> glda19: no you don't
[16:30] <glda19> ikonia, what ?
[16:30] <ikonia> glda19: "no you don't"
[16:30] <Janusman> IdleOne, ikonia thanks
[16:30] <glda19> what ikonia
[16:31] <kristianpaul> Hello
[16:31] <tadablue> hello
[16:31] <IdleOne> Janusman: if all else fails you can call Canonical support and they will help you with that (I think, don't quote me)
[16:31] <ikonia> glda19: I'm not repeating it again - if you can't understand "no you don't" there is nothing I can help you with
[16:31] <kristianpaul> There is a Ubuntu One client for non-ubuntu systems?
[16:31] <tadablue> quit
[16:31] <Janusman> IdleOne: =)
[16:32] <edbian> kristianpaul: It's open source.  In theory you could compile / run it on anything.
[16:32] <odix> is there a way to change your sudo and your default password
[16:32] <IdleOne> kristianpaul: I heard there is a windows version being beta tested. try #ubuntuone
[16:32] <edbian> kristianpaul: Might get tricky when it comes to the GUI APIs and path names but if they did things right it should be possible.
[16:32] <odix> or should i just change my group to non admin?
[16:32] <kristianpaul> ok
[16:33] <kristianpaul> edbian: yeah, i was looking  a static compiled binary or somethng like that
[16:33] <kristianpaul> but yes
[16:33] <kristianpaul> ok
[16:33] <edbian> odix: Changing your password changes your sudo password too.  It is easy using that little 'users and groups' thing in Ubuntu.  Being in the group 'admin' allows you to use sudo at all.
[16:33] <odix> im cmd line
[16:33] <odix> sorry should of said that
[16:34] <vmcurious> ikonia:  so here is my use case that may give better insight into my thinking:  I'm wanting to build a box that is a home theater unit that also runs VM appliances I need.  The HTPC portion will be used infrequently, but I would like the other appliances to be running all the time.  I thought that if I segregated the HTPC portion into its own VM that it would actually be more secure as I wouldn't be running a desktop GUI all the t
[16:34] <edbian> odix: That's ok.  sudo passwd
[16:34] <edbian> odix: Changes your password.
[16:34] <odix> thanks
[16:34] <chathura77> can anyone please tell me a good application to record the screen with audio. I am using Ubuntu 11.04. I have tried xvidcap but the audio is not working
[16:34] <ikonia> vmcurious: I wouldn't worry about security, but what you've suggested will work
[16:35] <IdleOne> chathura77: recordmydesktop perhaps
[16:35] <vmcurious> chathura77: ffmpeg can do what you wish
[16:35] <vmcurious> chathura77: i've not tried all the options, but from what I've read ffmpeg is the best performance solution
[16:36] <chathura77> IdleOne: vmcurious: ok thakns I shall try
[16:36] <mtsw> 123
[16:36] <chathura77> vmcurious: does it record the audio fine?
[16:36] <KM0201> chathura77: recordmydesktop, i don't think it records audio, unless its through a Mic... (which i don't think is what you want)
[16:36] <glda19> how can i see where the packages of xul-ext-ligthning are installed
[16:36] <vmcurious> chathura77: ffmpeg is very flexible
[16:37] <vmcurious> chathura77: you may have to do some reading, let me see if i can find you a youtube instruction video i've seen
[16:37] <justchecking> hey, could anyone give me a list of terminal commands to test the security of an external server?
[16:37] <ikonia> justchecking: what ? there is no such thing
[16:37] <ikonia> justchecking: you have to know how to penetration test
[16:37] <chathura77> KM0201: oh ok
[16:38] <justchecking> ikonia: penetration test?
[16:38] <edbian> justchecking: It's more elaborate than that.
[16:38] <chathura77> vmcurious : sure
[16:38] <ikonia> justchecking: yes, test a server for it's securtiy
[16:38] <justchecking> okay how would I go about it then?
[16:39] <justchecking> could you direct me to a site that goes into detail?
[16:39] <ikonia> justchecking: you don't just "go about it" it's an exerience given skill
[16:39] <ikonia> experience
[16:39] <justchecking> I see
[16:40] <edbian> justchecking: I'm googling a good doc.
[16:40] <Blah> hey guys im having trouble with a raid setup, I'm stuck on the grub rescue screen with the error "no such device e918...."
[16:40] <justchecking> thanks
[16:40] <edbian> justchecking: He's something that google pulled up: http://www.net-security.org/article.php?id=109
[16:41] <edbian> justchecking: and on o'reilly book:  http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596006709
[16:41] <edbian> I think O'Reilly gives a hint as to how elaborate a subject it is.
[16:41] <justchecking> okay thanks
[16:42] <matthew_sixpiece> looking for help regarding my cd-drive.
[16:42] <matthew_sixpiece> ubuntu isn't recognizing it at all
[16:42] <justchecking> I want to do a comprehensive port scan. Could you help me out?
[16:42] <pfifo> whats the ligetest weight image editor available for ubuntu? tuxpaint is 100M and gimp is 150M, so both those aren't 'light'
[16:42] <ikonia> pfifo: that is disk size, not ram
[16:43] <pfifo> ikonia, yes in disk size
[16:43] <glda19> ikonia, where hare the ligthning pakages out sinapic installed
[16:43] <tntc> Is there any way to surpress the bar of unity popping out when I click and drag items? I'm trying to drag them to the places bar on the left side of my screen, but the unity bar keeps popping out.
[16:43] <ikonia> pfifo: then, that's quite small
[16:43] <ikonia> glda19: not looked - don't know, fed up of discussing with you
[16:44] <pfifo> ikonia, surely theres a 'paint'
[16:44] <KM0201> pfifo: of course... mtpaint  i think
[16:44] <KM0201> !info mtpaint
[16:44] <ikonia> pfifo: tux paint I believe is classed as "paint"
[16:44] <Taftse> can someone tell me how to setup su root access or point me to a tutorial ?
[16:44] <pfifo> ikonia, like i said, its 100MB installed with deps
[16:44] <ikonia> Taftse: you don't need to do that
[16:45] <IdleOne> !root | Taftse
[16:45] <KM0201> pfifo: see above.. mtpaint is fairly small.
[16:45] <pfifo> KM0201, yeah just checked 2M thats what I needed, thanks
[16:46] <justchecking> ikonia: hey, do you know anything about port scanning?
[16:46] <edbian> justchecking: I do!
[16:47] <justchecking> edbian: could you help me out then
[16:47] <edbian> justchecking: yes
[16:47] <justchecking> I want to do a comprehensive port scan on an ip
[16:47] <edbian> justchecking: nmap ip
[16:47] <edbian> justchecking: :)
[16:47] <justchecking> i have used "nmap -sS ip"
[16:47] <gamblermc> looking for help regarding ubuntu NOT recognizing my cd-rom
[16:48] <edbian> justchecking: What is the -sS  for?  (Wanna PM ?)
[16:48] <justchecking> how do I PM again? :P
[16:48] <edbian> justchecking: /msg justchecking
[16:48] <edbian> justchecking: /msg justchecking hi
[16:49] <glda19> who use thunderbid 5.0 and ligthning 1.04b
[16:50] <_gambler> edbian: you were really helpful yesterday, i'm on my ubuntu powered laptop now! could you help me with a new problem?
[16:51] <edbian> _gambler: I can try.  I don't remember you.  (no offense)
[16:51] <alex____> hey ppls :P i wanna install essentials live 2011 in ubuntu :)
[16:52] <_gambler> edbian: name yesterday was gamblermc on my gf's mac. helped me with wireless problem
[16:52] <edbian> _gambler: Oh yeah.  We had to move everything using a USB stick.  What is the issue now?
[16:53] <_gambler> cd-rom isn't recognized by ubuntu.
[16:53] <alex____> is it possible or impossible?
[16:53] <edbian> _gambler: I'm not so good with this.  Is it the drive or the disc that's not recognized?
[16:53] <_gambler> edbian: this might be a hardware problem but i don't know how to check.
[16:53] <_gambler> the drive
[16:53] <IdleOne> alex____: I doubt it can be done but you can try with Wine. Again I doubt it will work
[16:53] <ocs> is it possible to create on ubuntu a keyboard shortcut in which the action is done when I press some keys in sequence and not simoultaneously ?
[16:53] <Mendax> is debian a better system than ubuntu?
[16:53] <Drammer> no
[16:54] <Drammer> Ubuntu is the Best
[16:54] <Drammer> : D
[16:54] <Mendax> ;)
[16:54] <alex____> mm ok
[16:54] <dyd> guys i can't understand why sound is not working... if i test the speakers i can hear the sound but nothing else works. any hint?
[16:54] <edbian> Mendax: yes :)
[16:54] <alex____> have someone made video calls with hotmail user on another way??
[16:54] <Drammer> dyd > i think your driver is not correctly installed
[16:54] <noah1989> hi
[16:54] <edbian> _gambler: I think it's a hardware error.  You can look in /dev   does it list any cd-rom or other type thigns in there?
[16:55] <edbian> _gambler: Best way to check is put the drive on another computer or run this computer with a different OS
[16:55] <dyd> Drammer: strange thing is that back to a week ago it worked, i just put some updates
[16:55] <yeats> Mendax: I think you'll get a biased opinion for Ubuntu in this channel, but it's fair to say that each project is very good and that they have different goals, etc.
[16:55] <noah1989> i want to run a virtual machine on a ubuntu host, with windows 7 as a guest
[16:55] <Drammer> use
[16:55] <BluesKaj> dyd, how are you testing the peakers ?
[16:55] <Drammer> Vmware Workstation
[16:55] <BluesKaj> speakers , dyd
[16:55] <alex____> i think no body -.-
[16:55] <dyd> BluesKaj: system -> preferences -> sound
[16:55] <alex____> ill try wine
[16:55] <Mendax> stupid question: when you are downloading debian do you have to download all of the images:http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/<IP_ADDRESS>/i386/bt-dvd/
[16:56] <noah1989> Drammer: is vmware workstation free (as in beer)?
[16:56] <dyd> BluesKaj: then hardware -> test speakers
[16:56] <IdleOne> Mendax: no and support for debian in #debian
[16:56] <Drammer> no
[16:56] <Drammer> vmware is a shareware
[16:56] <Drammer> but you can use it , u know it an old stuff everyone got it ripped
[16:56] <dyd> BluesKaj: jeez, i think i fixed it :D
[16:57] <BluesKaj> ok dyd open a terminal and try this : speaker-test -c2 -Ddefault -t wav
[16:57] <noah1989> drammer: hm.. i could create a machine using the trial version and then run it in vmware player (which is free as i recall)
[16:57] <maybe> hello all!
[16:57] <KM0201> BluesKaj: lol, thats awesome
[16:57] <dyd> BluesKaj: thanks for helping, now it works, it was on "output" the wrong sound output device.
[16:57] <Drammer> good idea
[16:58] <BluesKaj> dyd, if you had a player open , close it and open it again , then try to play some thing
[16:58] <KM0201> BluesKaj: that makes me realize i'm going deaf in my right ear.
[16:58] <_gambler> Itunes on ubuntu - easy way?
[16:58] <edbian> weee!!
[16:58] <edbian> front left
[16:58] <dyd> BluesKaj: it works now! all ok
[16:58] <edbian> front right..
[16:58] <maybe> guys, I have a question: I need to buy a pendrive, to install ubuntu on it. Any suggestions? Everyone will do, or should I be aware of something?
[16:58] <BluesKaj> dyd, good
[16:59] <KM0201> _gambler: do you ust want it to listen to music, or do you want itunes to sync an ipod.
[16:59] <KM0201> edbian: that voice is strangely attractive
[16:59] <KM0201> lol
[16:59] <edbian> maybe: It has to be big enough to hold Ubuntu (at least 1Gb).   Rhythmbox, Banshee, Audacious,
[17:00] <alex____> i think it is impossible to make video calls with hotmail users from ubuntu :(
[17:00] <KM0201> alex____: no its not
[17:00] <_gambler> maybe: you can always format the drive before you place the installer on it.
[17:00] <KM0201> !info amsn | aleX-xx
[17:00] <noah1989> are there better options than vmware for virtualization? kvm looks great but as far as i can see it lacks a graphical console (which i would only need for installing, after that rdesktop would be fine)
[17:00] <KM0201> oops, alex____ see above
[17:00] <_gambler> km0201: that difficult?
[17:01] <edbian> noah1989: there is also xen and virtualbox
[17:01] <alex____> kkm0201 i got ams but it doesnt let me make videocalls
[17:01] <KM0201> _gambler: its not that its difficult, its just itunes can be very buggy in Wine... (not to mention, its bloated like crazy)... so find a linux native option...
[17:01] <alex____> amsn
[17:01] <Janusman> I have a 32bit install and planning to reinstall on 64bit. How do I know if all apps have 64 bit equivalents? Or will 32 bit versions run on a 64bit 11.04?
[17:01] <KM0201> alex____: hmm, i thought it did. i stand corrected
[17:01] <maybe> edbian: thanks. I'm thinking about 8gb, so...  Anyway, if I remember correctly, I read somewhere, that some work better then the others, so that's why I'm asking. I've been thinking about adata usb 805....
[17:02] <alex____> km0201 it has the option but it doesnt work
[17:02] <edbian> maybe: I have never known any to work better than any other.  IDK'
[17:02] <kopecito> Anybody know how to remove the "mail indicator" in unity?
[17:02] <sonotscrewed> tntc: i just want to say thank you. you prompted me to kill the dosfsck that was truncating files. i went back into testdisk in the boot sector recovery mode and then did Repair FAT and all my files showed up
[17:02] <_gambler> km0201: what would you suggest for a really easy interface. when i tried to use banshee it said the plugins might be illegal in the country -- not sure how to check if they are
[17:02] <KM0201> _gambler: are you trying to play mp3's?
[17:02] <noah1989> well.. i#m just gonna download vmare -.-
[17:02] <_gambler> m4a's actually.
[17:02] <_gambler> from apple.
[17:02] <Mendax> _gambler: use VLC
[17:02] <KM0201> _gambler: i think i would try either vlc, or audacious.
[17:02] <_gambler> not a bad idea. ill try that out
[17:03] <alex____> when i seted up the setings it said something about windows didt let use their servers again or something like that
[17:03] <maybe> ok thank you, guys!
[17:03] <tntc> sonotscrewed: you took a big risk there man XD I'm glad it worked out ok
[17:04] <tntc> sonotscrewed: but from a safety standpoint, you def want a second hard disk to copy that stuff to
[17:04] <plagerism> join #networking
[17:05] <pharma> bonjour comment on peut parler a une personne qu'on connait et qui est sur irc car mon copain est sur irc
[17:05] <pharma> et est de l iie
[17:05] <pharma> a evry et je le trouve pas
[17:05] <DJones> !fr | pharma
[17:05] <Drammer> pharma > sur quel serveur de IRC ? vous savez IRC c'est un system :D et non pas un chat
[17:05] <pharma> nn mon copain parle sur irc ac des gens de son ecole
[17:06] <IdleOne> Drammer: Please use English in here or /msg them if you want to help in French
[17:06] <pharma> ca peut etre les deux ^^ ?
[17:06] <Drammer> ok
[17:06] <Drammer> sorry
[17:06] <pharma> :)
[17:06] <Drammer> i did even forget myself lol
[17:06] <duvel> Grrr. Why doesn't sound work with flash now?!
[17:06] <IdleOne> pharma: svp utilise #ubuntu-fr on parle en prive avec Drammer
[17:06] <IdleOne> s/on/ou/
[17:07] <pharma> #ubuntu-fr
[17:07] <IdleOne> pharma: /j #ubuntu-fr
[17:08] <_gambler> how do i get vlc to use a playlist
[17:08] <Janusman> I have a 32bit install and planning to reinstall on 64bit. How do I know if all apps have 64 bit equivalents? Or will 32 bit versions run on a 64bit 11.04?
[17:09] <duvel> Janusman: Save yourself, and don't install 64-bit.
[17:09] <duvel> Janusman: I'm having nothing but issues.
[17:09] <edbian> Janusman: allt he apps do have 32 bit equivalents and 32 bit apps run on 64 bit
[17:09] <edbian> except 1
[17:09] <edbian> flash
[17:09] <edbian> but there is a solution for that?
[17:10] <Janusman> The usual culrpit, Flash.
[17:10] <_gambler> in vlc, i cant find my ipod in the media browser.. suggestions?
[17:10] <duvel> edbian: I wouldn't call it a solution. Flash SUCKS right now.
[17:11] <Rudolf_> Hi
[17:12] <Rudolf_> I wanted to know if pc suite is available for ubuntu?
[17:12] <Boricua> Hi. How can i troubleshoot the connection to the Ubuntu Software Center. Iḿ unable to even see software already installed?Only changed from DSl to cable internet.
[17:12] <Janusman> Anyone know if I should expect better performance from a dedicated partition vs. a WUBI install?
[17:13] <Rudolf_> I am new to linux
[17:13] <duvel> Janusman: I'll tell you right now, if you do 64-bit.. Definitely use chromium as your browser. It just made my ubuntu experience exponentially better.
[17:13] <wangz> irc.fraggr.com #fraggr
[17:14] <Janusman> duvel: vs. Firefox 5?
[17:14] <morth> ^
[17:14] <Janusman> Rudolf_: define "PC suite"?
[17:14] <duvel> Idk which version I have.. But chromium is awesome.
[17:14] <duvel> morth: you prefer firefox 5 to chromium ?
[17:15] <morth> duvel: haven't tried Chromium, only firefox5 i was also curious if chrom was better than FF5
[17:15] <Rudolf_> Pc suite= software used to connect mobile to pc for accessing net
[17:15] <duvel> I'll have to Download FF5 now.
[17:16] <Rudolf_> Like there is nokia pc suite for windows
[17:16] <morth> duvel: i have yet to try chromium but i may be biased because im a long term firefox user.
[17:17] <duvel> morth trust me, I hate chromium in Windows. I love firefox in windows.  I like Firefox fine, but I think Chrome is nicer. I also like that incognito doesn't close my other windows
[17:17] <Rudolf_> Anyone?
[17:17] <morth> duvel: so far, i have yet had a problem with FF5 in linux, so may just be you :s
[17:17] <duvel> I dont think i have FF5.
[17:17] <tntc> Rudolf_: I dunno of any for nokia-specific stuff, but depending on how it's exposed, it may be possible to conenct through another method.
[17:18] <edbian> duvel: Help -> About
[17:18] <tntc> Rudolf_: can you link to the software you mean on the windows side?
[17:19] <stephanmg> hey i updated today xorg-server-input-all and some other xorg stuff. when i play a movie then there are horizontal bars in fast scenes. what's this?
[17:19] <duvel> Ah, i was running 3.something
[17:19] <duvel> hahah
[17:19] <Rudolf_> Tntc, how do you guys connect your mobile to pc? What software you use?
[17:19] <tntc> Rudolf_: well, I use an Android phone, so I use wifi tethering. I also have an app called "EasyTether" for USB tethering.
[17:19] <_gambler> what is the command to get chrome
[17:19] <morth> duvel: haha that may be the issue
[17:19] <llutz> Rudolf_: or bluetooth DUN
[17:19] <duvel> morth :D
[17:19] <Rudolf_> Tntc, ya..tis called pc suite on windows
[17:20] <morth> _gambler: google chrome?, it sucks don't bother
[17:20] <ohir> Rudolf_: Gammu/Wammu i.e.
[17:20] <_gambler> does it? what's better than firefox?
[17:20] <trakinas> morning
[17:20] <tntc> Rudolf_: you're talking about so that you can use your phone for internet access on your laptop?
[17:20] <trakinas> question: is there any ubuntu version suited for asus eeepc 4g?
[17:20] <tntc> _gambler: I use chrome. I like it quite a bit.
[17:20] <Mendax> _gambler: download from google directly
[17:20] <Rudolf_> Yup
[17:21] <ohir> Rudolf_: though nokia recenly has been sold to microsoft and symbian was put to slow death...
[17:21] <morth> _gambler: they may "Like google chrome" but i LOVE firefox5 ;)
[17:21] <KM0201> !info chromium-browser | _gambler no need to download from google
[17:21] <tntc> Rudolf_: if your phone connects over bluetooth, blueman may be able to set up bluetooth dun for you.
[17:21] <Mendax> _gambler: i like both google chrome and firefox but i like chrome a bit better
[17:21] <tntc> Rudolf_: I'm not sure about cable-connected internet. That tends to be more complicated.
[17:22] <tntc> morth: I like firefox 5, but I like chrome better.
[17:22] <_gambler> i liked chrome on windows. but actually started to use firefox more before i got linux
[17:22] <Rudolf_> Hmm..k
[17:22] <_gambler> i still have both browsers on my windows 7 desktop
[17:22] <tntc> _gambler: I'd say screw it, install em both and see which one you like.
[17:22] <ogzy> i am searching for a way to restrict my software run only a specified hardware?
[17:22] <oCean> ogzy: how is that ubuntu related?
[17:23] <morth> _gambler: chrome was faster than firefox3.0 and maybe 4.0 but with firefox 5.0 im not 100% sure but i believe 5.0 is fastest Internet browser atm
[17:23] <morth> may be best to check benchmarks online.
[17:24] <ogzy> oCean: maybe an ubuntu based package let this happen
[17:24] <oCean> ogzy: no
[17:24] <Rudolf_> And what pdf reader should i use?
[17:24] <ogzy> oCean: becauce my software runs on Ubuntu 10.04 now also
[17:25] <Taftse> anyone have any experience with installing vmware tools on ubuntu 10.04 within vmware esx 3.5 update 5 ?
[17:25] <_gambler> i see.
[17:25] <oCean> ogzy: so? Your question is not an ubuntu issue. Try a programming channel maybe?
[17:25] <_gambler> i don't know firefox5 that well. i'm not too worried about benchmarks as long as its fast
[17:26] <Taftse> anyone ?? anyone have any experience with installing vmware tools on ubuntu 10.04 within vmware esx 3.5 update 5 ?
[17:26] <morth> _gambler: i may be biased because i've been using firefox for a long time, but i would strongly recommend using firefox 5.0
[17:26] <ogzy> oCean: ok
[17:26] <oCean> _gambler, morth: this channel is for support, not for general discussion. Continue in #ubuntu-offtopic if you like
[17:27] <athnam> Hi all. I just installed 11.04 0n an HP 2133. It works fine till the wireless engages. Then the entire system freezes. I have to hit the power button to turn it off. I know zilch about linux and command line. I just want to be able to use the computer with wireless.
[17:27] <_gambler> someone was saying theres a command to install chrome?
[17:27] <tntc> _gambler: there is for chromium. it's in the software repos.
[17:27] <guitar> hi all
[17:28] <KM0201> _gambler: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[17:28] <tntc> _gambler: or you can just go download full chrome from google, and it'll install a deb and a repo for updates
[17:28] <Muelli> hm athnam. I'm sorry for you. But I'd guess the first task to solve this mistery is to find out what Wireless Chip you have. So firing up a terimal (Ctrl+Alt+T) and hitting "sudo lshw -vvvv | tee /tmp/lshw"  would be a good start
[17:28] <Taftse> anyone able to help me ?
[17:28] <Muelli> !any | Taftse
[17:28] <Muelli> ah, darn
[17:28] <Muelli> !ask  | Taftse
[17:28] <Guest89222> taftse---i'm learning
[17:29]  * Taftse points up /\
[17:29] <Taftse> anyone have any experience with installing vmware tools on ubuntu 10.04 within vmware esx 3.5 update 5 ?
[17:29] <Guest89222> another dave...yah
[17:29] <Muelli> !anyone | Taftse
[17:29] <UbuBegin> how to cut out an image from a pdf file.. what ubuntu sw can acheive that ??
[17:30] <Guest89222> ping
[17:30] <Muelli> UbuBegin: evince, pdfedit, okular, ...
[17:30] <ikonia> Guest89222: what do you want ?
[17:30] <athnam> thanks, Muelli. I'll be back in a while after I try that. (You did see I know zilch about linux, right?)
[17:30] <Taftse> how do i  install vmware tools on ubuntu 10.04 within vmware esx 3.5 update 5 ?
[17:30] <Mendax> UbuBegin: Pdf mod i think
[17:30] <ikonia> Taftse: what does the documentation say do ?
[17:30] <DodgyDave> Hi, looking for some help. I'm installing DeVeDe (DVD authoring package). I get a message during installation saying I need to remove some librarys. Can anyone tell me how to do that ?
[17:30] <Taftse> sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[17:30] <KM0201> UbuBegin: i just done it w/ evince, no problem
[17:30] <ikonia> DodgyDave: what does it what to remove
[17:31] <Mendax> DodgyDave: try synaptic package manager
[17:31] <ikonia> Taftse: follow the install instructions
[17:31] <Taftse> but i cannot find any  /media/cdrom
[17:31] <Muelli> DodgyDave: well. first of all I'd file a bug against the program that you're trying to install for at least having non appropriate messages.
[17:31] <ikonia> Taftse: it gets created when you put the cdrom in
[17:31] <guitar> i am new to ubuntu, and i her alot about using the terminal...for what?
[17:31] <DodgyDave> wants to remove libav format, video processing librarys
[17:32] <Muelli> guitar: for everything :-) People do all sorts of stuff with it. I read my emails, others chat, then others browse the web, ...
[17:32] <ikonia> guitar: day to day use
[17:32] <Mendax> guitar: u can use it to get packages instead of using software-center
[17:32] <KM0201> guitar: for anything.. most GUI tools, are simply graphical fronts for terminal commands... ubuntu can technically run w/o a GUI, and run completely from command line
[17:32] <IdleOne> guitar: terminal is often times faster then waiting for a GUI package manager to load
[17:32] <Taftse> ok but within esx i can click the button install/upgrade vmware tools (which as far as i know should mount the drivers/package)
[17:32] <BluesKaj> DodgyDave, the install remove them , if you continue...you can also do, sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:32] <Muelli> DodgyDave: doesn't sound too good. But if you're up for it, you can try synaptic.
[17:32] <guitar> is there an idiots guide to getting started with the terminal?
[17:32] <ikonia> Taftse: ok ?
[17:32] <KM0201> !aptoncd > guitar i didn't forget
[17:33] <IdleOne> !cli | guitar
[17:33] <Taftse> now i cant find those drivers/packages
[17:33] <ikonia> guitar: there are quite a few generic guides on the net, however https://help.ubuntu.com is a good introduction to ubuntu in general
[17:33] <ikonia> Taftse: follow the install instructions
[17:33] <IdleOne> !manual > guitar
[17:34] <Taftse> i am again sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom does not wok as it cant find the media/cdrom
[17:34] <stephanmg> hey i changed display depth from 24 to 16 bit in xorg.conf -> now at reboot my display maanger to login won't pop up
[17:34] <ikonia> Taftse: you have to put the CD in
[17:34] <stephanmg> any suggestions?
[17:34] <IdleOne> Taftse: try /dev/sr0
[17:35] <DodgyDave> I am having all kinds of difficulty writing a dvd. Anyone recomend a good EASY package ?
[17:35] <sudokill> stephanmg, change it back to 16?
[17:35] <Muelli> stephanmg: reverse your change.
[17:35] <stephanmg> i did.
[17:35] <Taftse> i thought i did that by clicking  install/upgrade vmware tools
[17:35] <stephanmg> reboot and it does not pop up
[17:35] <ikonia> Taftse: no
[17:35] <Muelli> DodgyDave: brasero
[17:35] <Taftse> then what good is that button ?
[17:36] <Muelli> DodgyDave: or k3b
[17:36] <ikonia> Taftse: ask the guys who make vmware - the process is quite straight forward, you get the install package, from a cd, from the net, wherever, and you run the installer script
[17:36] <guitar> idleone...ikonia....there was a private message waiting for me when I got here?
[17:36] <ikonia> guitar: is that a question ?
[17:36] <guitar> Sorta...
[17:36] <IdleOne> guitar: I had the bot (ubottu) send you that info on the manual
[17:36] <guitar> oh...how
[17:36] <IdleOne> !bot
[17:36] <guitar> that's my question
[17:37] <DodgyDave> Muelli, I have brasero but it seems to just sit there during the conversion stage
[17:37] <athnam> Muelli, does"Hardware Lister B.02.15" mean anything to you?
[17:37] <DodgyDave> left it for 45 mins and it didn't move
[17:38] <Muelli> DodgyDave: then debug that. I would consider it unlikely that other tools will succeed if brasero doesn't. In fact, Brasero is just a nice GUI around lower level libraries which other programs use, too.
[17:38] <Muelli> athnam: no. not at all
[17:38] <BlueAlchemy17> hey all
[17:38] <BlueAlchemy17> got a tech question
[17:38] <athnam> Muelli, the thing you gave me came up with that answer.
[17:39] <guitar> another question...how secure is ubuntu?
[17:39] <DodgyDave> how do I debug it (bear in mind I am a ubuntu 'virgin')
[17:39] <ikonia> guitar: as secure as you make it
[17:39] <Muelli> athnam: have you executed the command in a terminal? And do you have a file at /tmp/lshw?
[17:39] <guitar> right...
[17:39] <UbuBegin> how to cut out an image from a pdf file.. what ubuntu sw can acheive that ??
[17:39] <tntc> guitar: how secure is it in relation to what?
[17:40] <guitar> well, while i'm here chatting, can someone be hacking into my pc?
[17:40] <athnam> Muelli, i did exactly what you typed.
[17:40] <Muelli> DodgyDave: yeah, well, try to start with brasero from a terminal and watch it's output
[17:40] <Muelli> UbuBegin: evince, pdfedit, okular, ...
[17:40] <tntc> guitar: yes, but that's true of any PC.
[17:40] <ikonia> guitar: depends how you've set it up
[17:40] <ikonia> guitar: I suggest reading https://help.ubuntu.com as an introduction to ubuntu
[17:40] <Muelli> athnam: nice. Do smth like "wgetpaste /tmp/lshw" or "pastebinit /tmp/lshw" and give us the link
[17:40] <guitar> any suggestions
[17:40] <ikonia> guitar: suggestions on what ?
[17:40] <guitar> i did puruse the manual
[17:40] <Muelli> guitar: a vanilla install is quite secure against remote attacs.
[17:41] <guitar> thanks muelli
[17:41] <tntc> guitar: don't make your password easy to guess, keep a firewall running, don't install software that you don't trust...
[17:41] <ikonia> guitar: you can't have done, it's got 100's of pages
[17:41] <tntc> guitar: there are generally the same precautions regardless of Distro or OS.
[17:41] <guitar> ikonia, it's 158 pages to be exact, counting the idex and glossery
[17:41] <UbuBegin> Muelli, roger that buddy
[17:41] <ikonia> guitar: ok - well, I still doubt you've read that
[17:42] <athnam> Muelli, oh, wait, there's more at the bottom: lspci -n grep 14e4....Is that what you need?
[17:42] <tntc> guitar: use ssh instead of telnet, use ssl encryption for VNC, don't give unauthorized persons access to your computer, etc. etc. etc.
[17:43] <guitar> thanks tntc
[17:43] <Muelli> athnam: we need the output of "sudo lswh -vvvv" and it's best if you put it in a pastebin. Hence the instructions for you to do "sudo lshw -vvvv > /tmp/lshw; pastebinit /tmp/lshw" That should yield a link which you can share with us
[17:43] <Boricua> Can't connect to the software center? but everthing else works fine. Only changed ISP from dsl to cable.
[17:43] <guitar> tntc, i'm not sure what ssh or ssl is
[17:43] <BlueAlchemy17> ahhh, soo much better
[17:43] <tntc> guitar: just remember: locks keep honest people honest. If someone really wants to get in to your computer, it is quite likely that they will find a way.
[17:43] <tntc> guitar: well, ssl is a type of encryption
[17:44] <athnam> Muelli, "No such file or directory"
[17:44] <guitar> you're right
[17:44] <guitar> about honesty
[17:44] <tntc> guitar: ssh allows you to access the command line interface of your system remotely.
[17:44] <ikonia> guitar: this is explained in the guide I've given you
[17:44] <guitar> and what is attractive about ubuntu is...
[17:44] <Muelli> athnam: did "sudo lshw -vvvv > /tmp/lshw" succeed?
[17:44] <ikonia> guitar: personal opinion - read the guide and make your mind up
[17:44] <guitar> the community
[17:45] <BlueAlchemy17> got a tech question
 anyway, DLoaded the .iso for Ubuntu 11.04 both 32 and 64
 tried both as liveCDs
 works up until I choose to run without installing (LiveCD mode)
 and then it goes black, I can hear it still running, just no display of anything
[17:45] <FloodBot1> BlueAlchemy17: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
 I even hear it play the Ubuntu music when it finally boots into ubuntu, but again, no display
[17:45] <tntc> guitar: Free. Friendly. Awesome support. Ubuntu One. <3
[17:45] <athnam> Muelli, it just gave me what I showed you.
[17:45] <guitar> ikonia....sorry, i had not finished my remarks...let me rephase
[17:45] <Muelli> athnam: sorry, I don't believe that. You must have mistyped stuff.
[17:45] <guitar> what is attractive about ubuntu is the community
[17:46] <noway> guitar: indeed :)
[17:46] <tntc> guitar: Check out UbuntuOne too! OMG CLOUD FTW! XD
[17:46] <guitar> yesway
[17:47] <noway> anyone into SQL ? :)
[17:47] <guitar> that sense of community outweights the "perks" of other OS
[17:47] <noway> I really need to ask something :)
[17:47] <ikonia> noway: what's the real question ?
[17:47] <athnam> Muelli, I tried it again. It says no such file or directory.
[17:47] <BlueAlchemy17> can someone help me?
[17:47] <BlueAlchemy17> http://paste.ubuntu.com/638042/
[17:48] <tntc> guitar: well, Ubuntu has a lot of perks too.
[17:48] <i2iot> I want to delete images from image viewer using the delete key, is there a shortcut to do this?
[17:48] <guitar> i'm just a bit ovre whelmed with the transistion
[17:48] <Muelli> athnam: could you make a screenshot and share on yfrog.com or so, so that we can see what you actually tried to type?
[17:48] <tntc> guitar: what OS were you coming from?
[17:48] <guitar> tntc...Win of course
[17:48] <KM0201> BlueAlchemy17: i think you'll have to use nomodeset ... is this a laptop?
[17:48] <BlueAlchemy17> yes
[17:49] <KM0201> BlueAlchemy17: yeah, it's not turning on the backlight for the display... what graphics device does the laptop have?
[17:49] <BlueAlchemy17> but I've not had any problems with previous versions of ubuntu
[17:49] <tntc> guitar: is there anything in particular you're having trouble with?
[17:49] <KM0201> hmm, thats weird.
[17:49] <BlueAlchemy17> lemme check
[17:49] <guitar> i tried to do a dual install with ubuntu and ended up wiping out my xp, and i can't run my cd-roms for school
[17:49] <tntc> guitar: what's on the CD-roms?
[17:50] <tntc> guitar: you might want to check out wine, if they're executables.
[17:50] <guitar> interactive sound bytes
[17:50] <guitar> i did Wine, and it will not work
[17:50] <tntc> guitar: if it's more complex than that, you may want to consider installing VirtualBox (from Oracle), and installing your old copy of XP in there.
[17:50] <BlueAlchemy17> @KM0201: Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family Rev. 9 1308MB
[17:50] <athnam> Muelli, I'm really sorry to be such a pain. I'm using a different computer so I can connect to this channel on the internet, 'cause the HP can't connect. I don't know how to get a screen shot from that computer to this one.
[17:50] <KM0201> hmm
[17:50] <tntc> guitar: are they executable files, or just a weird audio/video format?
[17:50] <guitar> hey KM
[17:51] <Muelli> athnam: pendrive
[17:51] <KM0201> guitar: ?
[17:51] <i2iot> Image Viewer is like 100 times slower as windows photo viewer!
[17:51] <i2iot> Is there an alternative?
[17:51] <guitar> KM0201...how did you have a PM waiting on me when I got here?
[17:52] <athnam> Muelli, 'kay, I'm gonna go try that..brb
[17:52] <guitar> tntc...both
[17:52] <KM0201> guitar: i'm awesome..lol, (actually... i sent it a few minutes after you got here... remembered your question, and PM'd you the answer)
[17:52] <Muelli> i2iot: gazillions. Try "display"...
[17:52] <ikonia> guitar: the pm thing was explained to you by i2iot
[17:52] <ikonia> IdleOne:
[17:52] <guitar> oh...still impressed though
[17:52] <tntc> guitar: yuck. yeah, unfortunately software stuff like that is seriously incompatable. I'd just install VirtualBox, so you can run Windows inside a VM for those little bits
[17:53] <tntc> guitar: I had to do a course on Microsoft Office, which essentially required me to install XP and Office 2007.
[17:53] <KM0201> tntc: his computer isn't near powerful enough for that.
[17:53] <guitar> ikonia...there is a lot of splaining going on,
[17:53] <tntc> KM0201: what, guitar's?
[17:53] <BlueAlchemy17> KM0201: any thoughts yes?
[17:53] <guitar> i'm trying to just keep up
[17:53] <KM0201> tntc: yes, we discussed this the other day... he's barely got 1gig of ram.
[17:53] <tntc> oooh, blech
[17:54] <KM0201> tntc: don't remember his processor exactly, but i think it was a pentium 4... (which isn't a big deal, if he had plenty of RAM)
[17:54] <tntc> guitar: what's the company that makes the discs for your school?
[17:54] <tntc> like, what are they from?
[17:54] <IdleOne> guitar: if this channel is too busy for you you may want to try #ubuntu-beginners (much slower paced)
[17:54] <tntc> you may just need more stuff for wine.
[17:55] <IdleOne> guitar: at least until you learn the working of IRC
[17:55] <guitar> Idleone...no i mean understanding it all...like spending half the night reading the manual
[17:55] <tntc> guitar: meh, you get used to it, like all things :)
[17:55] <tntc> guitar: but yeah, who makes those discs?
[17:56] <guitar> tntc.  Pearson
[17:56] <guitar> i have to run flash 8 and win office 7
[17:56] <Taftse> office 2007 ?
[17:56] <guitar> yup
[17:56] <guitar> just to run the disk
[17:56] <tntc> guitar: oh, for the course? Ugh.
[17:57] <guitar> right
[17:57] <Taftse> grrr
[17:57] <tntc> guitar: yeah, I'd say upgrade your ram and use a VM.
[17:57] <guitar> KN0201 helped alot
[17:57] <guitar> this is my work pc
[17:57] <Taftse> i am a windows system admin for a few schools not fun
[17:57] <guitar> they let me use it for school too
[17:57] <guitar> i will beg for ram when i see the IT guy
[17:57] <tntc> guitar: yowza. work gave you 1GB of ram and a P4? What'd you do, shoot their dog?
[17:58] <dudeche> Quick one....running 10.04 -- want to run python 2.7.2...I can build my own....but was wondering if there was anything like rpmforge for LTS releases?
[17:58] <tntc> guitar: :) Seriously though, 2GB to 4GB should be plenty.
[17:58] <guitar> LOL
[17:58] <Taftse> you could also look at getting a remote hosted windows vm and just using remote desktop or the linux equivalent
[17:58] <tntc> Taftse: ooh! I hadn't thought of that. good idea.
[17:59] <Taftse> i would offer but don't have the server capabilities to host another vm
[17:59] <safetynet> This is an older version of Karmic 10.04 - On doing updates received following error: "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.15.4ubuntu2.1_i386.deb
[17:59] <safetynet>   404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]" How should I resolve this ? ?
[17:59] <ikonia> safetynet: use a repo that's not down
[17:59] <i2iot> Does anyone use an image viewer that you can use shortcuts for both "next image" and "delete"?
[18:00] <i2iot> I seriously don't want to have to use Windows for a decent image viewer
[18:00] <guitar> KM0201...the APTonCD is there a version for flash?
[18:00] <safetynet> ikonia: So which do you suggest, kinda new to this stuff....
[18:00] <i2iot> I've tried Image viewer, Gimp, and Gwenview
[18:00] <KM0201> flash?... what do you mean
[18:00] <ikonia> safetynet: can you pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a" please
[18:00] <i2iot> Shotwell also sucks
[18:00] <bo7amny> hi, is there a command line twitter client ? i tried a program could curl but it didn't work for me
[18:00] <Janusman> i2iot: I thought most viewers used cursor keys for prev/next and DEL for delete =)
[18:00] <mrdeb> i2iot: what is better
[18:00] <slaps> Do you want just a viewer or an editor i2iot ?
[18:01] <i2iot> That is exactly what I want
[18:01] <guitar> KM...besides being gimpy on the ram issue, this pc doesn't have a burner
[18:01] <i2iot> I sell on ebay and take a lot of pictures, i need to delete them as i cycle through
[18:01] <dudeche> no thoughts on rpmforge-like repos for LTS releases?
[18:01] <stealthboy> hi a am need some help with ati drivers and minecraft or java dont it lags help me
[18:01] <i2iot> But i'm having 2 problems: cycling only available in image viewer but lags like crazy
[18:01] <KM0201> guitar: oh... well, that could be an issue..
[18:01] <ikonia> dudeche: rpmforge is for redhat - not ubuntu, so it's not a valid question
[18:01] <guitar> the story of my...
[18:01] <i2iot> 2: No delete shortcut... im using a macbook pro though so maybe theres something i haven't learned about the keyboard yet
[18:02] <stealthboy> open source drivers this is
[18:02] <dudeche> I said rpmforge-like
[18:02] <Janusman> i2iot: I'm using eye of gnome (eog) and it has those.
[18:02] <graingert> !question | IO0139
[18:02] <tntc> i2iot: fn backspace/delete
[18:02] <ikonia> dudeche: what package do you want, as in ubuntu there is no need for rpmforge type repos as the official ones pretty much cover it
[18:02] <Slaytanic_> Slaytanic
[18:02] <i2iot> thank tntc!!!
[18:02] <dudeche> python 2.7.2
[18:02] <tntc> i2iot: :D no problem!
[18:02] <ikonia> dudeche: what version of ubuntu
[18:02] <slaps> Have you tried "GPicView" its light on the comp and actually works really good.
[18:02] <dudeche> 10.0.4
[18:02] <stealthboy> hi a am need some help with ati drivers and minecraft or java dont it lags help me open source drivers and ubuntu of couse
[18:02] <dudeche> 10.04
[18:03] <dudeche> I can build from source
[18:03] <eekTheCat> I tried to install gnome3 following the advice here: http://norman.hooper.name/blog/post/58/ubuntu-natty-narwhal-gnome-3/. But gnome-shell isn't showing up as an option on the login screen. any ideas?
[18:03] <tntc> i2iot: that drove me CRAZY :)
[18:03] <i2iot> Slap: I'm going to try it now
[18:03] <ikonia> dudeche: python 2.6 is critical to ubuntu 10.04 - changing/upgrading it is not advised, hence no package for it
[18:03] <dudeche> I want them installed in parallel
[18:03] <dudeche> wouldn't replace system reqs
[18:03] <stealthboy> hello is any one going to help me
[18:03] <ikonia> dudeche: then you'd need a custom package to change the location/version/deps
[18:03] <stealthboy> hi a am need some help with ati drivers and minecraft or java dont it lags help me open source drivers and ubuntu of couse
[18:04] <safetynet> Best site to use for Pasting is ? ?
[18:04] <Myrtti> stealthboy: please have patience
[18:04] <graingert> stealthboy, please don't spam
[18:04] <ikonia> safetynet: pastebin.ubuntu.com
[18:04] <SirVenom> Hello! I am trying to add another language to my system calendar, but I can't find the right file to edit. I had made some changes to /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/mx/DateTime/Locale.py, but it apparently isn't the file I'm looking for, since all dates seem to be given in an abbreviated format. Does anyone here know the file that I need to edit?
[18:04] <stealthboy> ok
[18:04] <safetynet> ikonia; Thanks
[18:04] <dudeche> yeah that's why I'm wondering if anyone has put together contrib like pkgs
[18:04] <ikonia> dudeche: no
[18:04] <dudeche> bummer -- guess I will wrap my own dpkgs
[18:04] <SirVenom> *All dates on my system, not in the file, are abbreviated
[18:04] <graingert> stealthboy, consider rephrasing your question in proper english - perhaps list some symptoms other than "it is all lags and that *crycry*"
[18:05] <stealthboy> minecraft runing in java using opensource ati drivers lags how do i fix that
[18:05] <graingert> stealthboy, eg consider not using open source drivers - using jockey-gtk
[18:05] <slaps> Any luck i2iot ?
[18:05] <lxs-makoto> hey. ive got my ubuntu box configured as a router. i'm no iptables guy, and ive been messing about for 30 minute now acomplishing nothing but enraging myself. can somebody point me in the right direction on how i can get stuff sent to <IP_ADDRESS>:81 (on eth1) to be redirected to <IP_ADDRESS>(on eth0) using iptables?
[18:05] <mrdeb> hmm
[18:05] <stealthboy> see i used them and my system was bad
[18:05] <safetynet> ikonia: Paste is here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/638053/
[18:06] <ikonia> safetynet: you're running ubuntu 9.10, not 10.04, 9.10 is end of life, hence why you can't see the repo
[18:06] <stealthboy> look are you going to help me or not i am in a rush to fix this then i can play with my mate
[18:06] <th0r> lxs-makoto: it wouldn't be iptables that does the forwarding, it would be route
[18:06] <safetynet> What is best site to use for temporary screenshot paste to use ? ?
[18:06] <mrdeb> ikonia: is 910 repo gone so you cant connet
[18:07] <ikonia> safetynet: with that attitude, no
[18:07] <ikonia> mrdeb: it has been moved to the old-releases
[18:07] <KM0201> !screenshot | safetynet
[18:07] <lxs-makoto> th0r: i sort of get it, how would i tell the packet forwarding to forward where i want it to go?
[18:07] <trakinas> safetynet: imageshack.us
[18:07] <duvel> Can anyone help me install Firefox 5 on my 10.04 LTS Install so that all users can access it? Like ... a global install perhaps? Thank you.
[18:08] <stealthboy> please graingert help me
[18:08] <graingert> stealthboy, no probably not - this is not a call center
[18:08] <KM0201> trakinas: doesn't imageshak require an account, etc.. imagebin, you just upload an image, and then give a link
[18:08] <ikonia> duvel: if you install the package, it is global
[18:08] <duvel> ikonia: FF5 isn't available in my packages apparently.
[18:08] <th0r> lxs-makoto: ok....you need to figure out what you want to do. If you want to forward everything from one address to another, I think you can do that with route. But if you want to do NAT you do that in iptables
[18:08] <ikonia> duvel: there you go then, there is your answer
[18:08] <stealthboy> i used jockey-gtk but my system broke in wine
[18:08] <Mendax> duvel: hope this helpshttp://www.johannes-eva.net/how-to-install-firefox-on-ubuntu-linux
[18:08] <trakinas> KM0201: I don't know if they now asks for an account. Is being a while since I last needed to upload any image.
[18:08] <stealthboy> i need to have open source drivers
[18:09] <safetynet> ikonia: I'll just have the folks I installed this version in Virtualbox use for the interim, so they do not get spyware on Windows - Thanks much for the help...
[18:09] <stealthboy> on
[18:09] <stealthboy> for minecraft
[18:09] <SirVenom> I'll rephrase my question: What files must be edited to alter the system calendar?
[18:09] <ikonia> Mendax: please don't give out those links to unsupported and incorrectly packages software
[18:09] <SirVenom> If anyone knows
[18:09] <trakinas> duvel: afaik, firefox for linux comes pre compiled. just download their package and run it.
[18:09] <ikonia> duvel: I strongly advise you to ignore that advice
[18:09] <duvel> thanks
[18:09] <iniesta> hi
[18:09] <i2iot> slaps: gpicview is pretty awesome
[18:09] <duvel> ikonia: I am following the website that Mendax gave me.
[18:09] <slaps> :>
[18:09] <i2iot> finally
[18:09] <iniesta> ive burn the iso to make live cd
[18:09] <ikonia> duvel: I strongly advise you not to do that
[18:09] <safetynet> ikonia; Didn't realize how old this version of Ubuntu was.... :(
[18:10] <duvel> ikonia: Really?
[18:10] <ikonia> duvel: yes
[18:10] <duvel> That website is no good?
[18:10] <duvel> :(
[18:10] <Mendax> ikonia: what's wrong with that link?
[18:10] <opt1mus> noob q: how can i check my xchat ip?
[18:10] <Ibyss> What's up with installing java on a ubuntu server being rather annoying to install?
[18:10] <trakinas> duvel: my advice is not good
[18:10] <Ibyss> opt1mus: /whois yourself   for real ip
[18:10] <ikonia> Mendax: it's an unpackaged tar file of a pre-compiled binary that can cause issues against the official installed/packaged version that's linked into gnome pretty explictly
[18:11] <opt1mus> cheers
[18:11] <shp> hi
[18:11] <shp> got no sound with tuxguitar :(
[18:11] <safetynet> trakinas; Forgot about that one - It's a good one as well, THanks
[18:11] <x-man> hi / iget an error when try install nvidia curent driver ubuntu 10.04.4 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/219/capturecranj.png/
[18:12] <ikonia> x-man: your dns is not working
[18:12] <Mendax> duvel: i literally just used those instructions to install it 5 minutes ago it is working fine
[18:12] <eekTheCat> how do I get gnome-shell to show up in the gdm login screen?
[18:12] <x-man> ikonia: what should i do?
[18:12] <Mendax> ikonia: whatever
[18:12] <ikonia> duvel: I very strongly advise you to disregard that website
[18:12] <ikonia> Mendax: if you don't understand the information you're giving out - it's best not to
[18:12] <ikonia> x-man: fix your dns issue, whatever it is
[18:13] <kulwik> siema
[18:13] <duvel> ikonia: Okay, thank you.
[18:13] <KM0201> Mendax: just because it works, doesn't mean its right.
[18:13] <x-man>  ikonia: how can i fix this?
[18:13] <ikonia> x-man: test it - can you resolve any websites
[18:13] <x-man> yes
[18:13] <mrdeb> is 9.10 still good to use
[18:13] <mrdeb> it seems good
[18:13] <ikonia> mrdeb: it's EOL
[18:14] <KM0201> mrdeb: no, its eol
[18:14] <ikonia> x-man: ok - so you know DNS is working, so then that archive is probably down
[18:14] <mrdeb> but i like the bootup logo
[18:14] <KM0201> !eol > mrdeb
[18:14] <x-man> oh no
[18:14] <ikonia> mrdeb: that's not a reason to use a distro - the bootup logo
[18:14]  * KM0201 agrees
[18:14] <x-man> im using ubuntu 10.04.2
[18:14] <janek_> hej
[18:15] <duvel> mrdeb: LOL. Are you joking ? The boot up logo? :D
[18:15] <duvel> That's awesome.
[18:16] <eekTheCat> should i just install another distro if I want to try gnome3
[18:16] <ikonia> eekTheCat: I would use one that supports it with official packages, yes
[18:16] <buzzy> hey guys
[18:17] <duvel> ikonia, Mendax: I actually just got Firefox 5 Installed via the repository. Donno why it wasn't working before. Did sudo apt-get upgrade and it installed Firefox 5. Works excellently. Thank you!
[18:17] <ikonia> duvel: that's better, well done
[18:17] <duvel> Thanks
[18:17] <buzzy> I can't install the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel. I followed the instructions provided here (http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-update-ubuntu-11-04-kernel-to-2-6-39-0/) but the kernel doesn not show up when I use the command "apt-cache showpkg linux-headers"
[18:17] <duvel> Wow. Flash also runs better in FF5. :D
[18:17] <ikonia> buzzy: why do you need that kernel ?
[18:18] <shp> why no sound on tuxguitar pls?
[18:18] <sysdoc> eekTheCat, I installed it from git so that it wouldn't mess with files or settings.
[18:18] <buzzy> because people with same laptop as mine (sony vaio S series) sugest me to use it
[18:18] <ikonia> buzzy: why ?
[18:18] <buzzy> in order to have better performance
[18:18] <lxs-makoto> hmm. i have an apache2 on <IP_ADDRESS>, on my eth1. i can ping <IP_ADDRESS> (on <IP_ADDRESS> eth0), but apache2 cant proxy to it
[18:18] <buzzy> of the processor
[18:18] <ikonia> buzzy: I would ignore that, and use the supported kernel that comes with ubuntu 1.04
[18:18] <buzzy> it's not advisable to have it
[18:18] <buzzy> ?
[18:18] <ikonia> 11.04
[18:19] <quaisi> shp: does this help? http://tuxguitar.herac.com.ar/tgwiki/doku.php?id=doc:no_sound
[18:19] <buzzy> mm I see
[18:19] <ohir> buzzy: ubuntu developers will eventually give you 2.6.39 too. In suitable time.
[18:20] <buzzy> Ok, I understand
[18:20] <ohir> buzzy: unless you're linux guru you need not to fiddle with vanilla kernels
[18:20] <athnam> Muelli, will this work? http://yfrog.com/h80634p
[18:20] <axle3d> i prefer to get to a desktop environment via the terminal, so i removed gdm and use a xinit script to start gnome. When i used gdm, i could mount volumes and other *privileged activities, now i cant. my xinit looks like: ck-launch-session gnome-session?
[18:20] <buzzy> i'm no guru at all actually
[18:20] <buzzy> i'll follow the advice of you guys, who know best for sure
[18:20] <buzzy> thanks
[18:22] <ohir> buzzy: ubuntu parts, including kernel and kernel's modules, works in team. When you install your own kernel you also have to mind modules/hal/d-bus and many other things that need to sometimes be updated (compiled) for given kernel
[18:22] <ivan3> Hey guys, how do I make my laptop continue to work ( no shut down, no sleep ) when I close its... I dont know english word... lets say its monitor?
[18:22] <Northernen> ivan3, use power management.
[18:24] <rhin0> ivan3 within power settings -- system - preferences power management
[18:24] <ivan3> Thank you.
[18:24] <rhin0> select blank screen when laptop lid closed
[18:24] <shp> does not work quaisi
[18:25] <lowbudgetlaptops> hello
[18:25] <douglas> Hi There!
[18:25] <shp> guitar pro works better ...
[18:25] <Abhijit> hi
[18:26] <lowbudgetlaptops> whats up doug
[18:26] <douglas> nothing, just testing irssi
[18:27] <lowbudgetlaptops> whats that
[18:27] <douglas> irc client, for terminal (cli)
[18:27] <C1sM0> Hello everybody. Is it possible to send an encrypted email with RSA key? or do I need DSA Elgamal?
[18:28] <douglas> i think so
[18:28] <DodgyDave> Can anyone offer any help with Kino ?? Have installed it but when I try to capture video from my Panasonic DV cam I just get a black screen
[18:28] <lowbudgetlaptops> yeah where are you from
[18:29] <athnam> Muelli, I uploaded the screen shot: http://yfrog.com/h80634p
[18:32] <Biggamer11> hi
[18:33] <ranjan> hi how the cloud providers manage public ip, do they really give public ip to virtual machines
[18:33] <ikonia> ranjan: they can do
[18:33] <Muelli> athnam: sorry, was afk..
[18:33] <athnam> no prob
[18:33] <alexleon> yo ppl
[18:34] <oneliner> hello there, i have an issue where none of the compiz effects are beeing applied after a theme change,.. how can i debug compiz?
[18:34] <Muelli> athnam: uh, lshw seems to have changed *blush* could you just do a sudo lhw | pastebinit ?
[18:34] <alexleon> i try to make a video call from live messenger to emphaty and when i answer i get this message
[18:34] <alexleon> alex's software does not understand any of the video formats supported by your computer
[18:34] <alexleon> what is it
[18:35] <ikonia> alexleon: probably not supported
[18:35] <DodgyDave> can anyone help with a KINO issue ?
[18:35] <Muelli> alexleon: probably the software does not understand any of the video formats
[18:35] <Muelli> !any | DodgyDave
[18:35] <Muelli> !anyone | DodgyDave
[18:35] <alexleon> ikonia i can make videocalls to laptops but not to desktops :(
[18:35] <ikonia> alexleon: the laptop / desktop has no difference in the software
[18:35] <alexleon> muelli then what cani do?
[18:36] <Abhijit> oneliner, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1008755
[18:36] <Abhijit> oneliner, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1063605
[18:36] <Abhijit> oneliner, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1264568
[18:36] <moonchild> hey guys, I have a question about fakeraid on an x58 chipset
[18:36] <ikonia> moonchild: don't use it
[18:36] <athnam> Muelli: the program 'pastebinit is not currently installed. You can install it by typing: ..."etc. Doing that now.
[18:36] <alexleon> ikonia but enphaty recognizes laptop's webcam but not desktop's webcams i have proven it
[18:37] <Muelli> athnam: good :)
[18:37] <mk> I see a package in package.ubuntu.com that I can't see in my package manager. Why can't I see it?
[18:37] <DodgyDave> When I start Kino and press the capture button, I just get a black screen. The red record button is not lit so I cant capture any video
[18:37] <ikonia> alexleon: then the desktop probably uses an unsupported webcam
[18:37] <ranjan> ikonia, do they provide public ip for each virtual machine?
[18:37] <alexleon> all desktops?
[18:37] <famicube64> Ubuntu Software Center doesn't show everything
[18:37] <Abhijit> mk, you may need to enable universe or multiverse repo
[18:37] <moonchild> I've been di**ing around with trying to do a win7 + ubuntu 10.10 co-install with the x58's fakeraid all weekend
[18:37] <ikonia> ranjan: depends on the provider and the terms of the agreement
[18:37] <ikonia> alexleon: all desktops ? as in all in the world ?
[18:37] <alexleon> cuz i tried with 3 diferent desktops nd 3 diferent webcams
[18:37] <ikonia> alexleon: you know desktops don't have a web cam installed by default don't you ?
[18:37] <ikonia> moonchild: unwise
[18:38] <alexleon> yeah
[18:38] <moonchild> ...and I'm missing something, because I think  the win7 installer & ubuntu are expecting different partition tables
[18:38] <alexleon> so i cant make videocalls with desktops like never?? :(
[18:38] <ikonia> moonchild: no, fakeraid has terrible support under linux, which is the most likley issue, it can't see the partition table
[18:38] <ikonia> alexleon: it's nothing to do with it being a desktop
[18:39] <moonchild> ikonia: the OS actually can
[18:39] <ikonia> moonchild: then what's your question ?
[18:39] <Muelli> alexleon: you can if you use appriopriate software, i.e. empathy with supported cameras (a lot of them actually).
[18:39] <alexleon> u ppl are smart fix it
[18:39] <ikonia> alexleon: no
[18:39] <ikonia> alexleon: what webcams are the desktops using ?
[18:39] <alexleon> so i should buy a cam
[18:39] <moonchild> a 'parted -l', after some complaining about a b0rked GPT partition table sees the array
[18:40] <moonchild> and an fdisk -l confirms it as well
[18:40] <athnam> Muelli: "Err http://us.archive....(etc) Could not resolve.... Failed to fetch....(etc.)  I think it needs the internet maybe?
[18:40] <alexleon> logitech
[18:40] <dekkard> Trying to run natty from USB on mylappy with gma 4500 graphics screen is black???
[18:40] <ranjan> ikonia, so what about amazon. do they have public ip for each of their virtual machines? do they purchase these much number of public ip's
[18:40] <ikonia> moonchild: what partition table is it using, ms dos or gpt ?
[18:40] <Muelli> athnam: it does indeed
[18:40] <ikonia> ranjan: ask amazon, that's nothing to do with ubuntu
[18:40] <ranjan> ikonia, ok
[18:40] <ikonia> alexleon: have you tested if the webcam is working ?
[18:41] <moonchild> ikonia: at this point, whatever win7 tried to do
[18:41] <Muelli> athnam: alternatively, do "sudo lshw > /tmp/lshm" and copy /tmp/lshw onto a pendrive and upload it
[18:41] <alexleon> yes
[18:41] <alexleon> one is a new logitech and the another one is an old one
[18:41] <moonchild> I'd like to find a command that lists the partition table type
[18:41] <alexleon> both work
[18:41] <ikonia> moonchild: I suspect that fact that it's complaining means it can't see the partition table on the meta device
[18:41] <ikonia> moonchild: fdisk -l will listed it
[18:41] <ikonia> alexleon: how are you testing them in ubuntu
[18:41] <dekkard> My maverick install is fine
[18:42] <alexleon> i use ubuntu on my laptop
[18:42] <moonchild> ok, let me hop boxes & check that
[18:42] <alexleon> nd my laptop cam works
[18:42] <ikonia> alexleon: how are you testing the web cam is working in ubuntu
[18:42] <moonchild> ikonia: mind if we take this to pm?
[18:42] <ikonia> moonchild: I don't see a reason to
[18:43] <moonchild> I'm not going to be watching my screen while checking & probably will miss your comments
[18:43] <moonchild> in any even, I'll brb
[18:43] <ikonia> moonchild: I won't talk to you until you return
[18:43] <alexleon> humm i try to make  videocalls from windows live messenger u want me to conect my webcam to my laptop with ubuntu?
[18:44] <Gerrin> where can i find drivers for the built in multi card reader on my desk top, its a compaq and im runnine 10.04
[18:44] <Muelli> Gerrin: you shouldn't need any
[18:45] <mk> I have the universe repo enabled, but I still can't see the package in the package manager. The package is http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/racket
[18:45] <athnam> Muelli: sorry, am I typing all that into terminal? I don't know how to make it copy to the pendrive?
[18:45] <Muelli> Gerrin: but the correct answer is: They are built in. Built into Linux
[18:45] <moonchild> ikonia: looks like fdisk is thoroughly confused
[18:45] <Muelli> athnam: use a file manager, i.e. nautilus
[18:45] <mk> can others see racket in their package manager?
[18:45] <inashdeen> hi, anyone knows any good software to lock keyboard on ubuntu
[18:45] <Gerrin> well its not reading any sdcards i put in it, the indicator light is coming on but the card is not showing up on the desktop or anywhere else
[18:45] <ikonia> moonchild: probably because it can't read the partition table due to the meta device not being supported, as fakeraid sucks
[18:45] <moonchild> I did a partx on /dev/mapper/isw*0
[18:46] <Abhijit> mk, not here in my lucid
[18:54] <Muelli> inashdeen: you mean smth like gnome-screensaver?
[18:54] <inashdeen> and anyone knows a software to send sms through the usb modem
[18:54] <Abhijit> mk, have you seen my previos post?
[18:54] <moonchild> it complains about both a gpt table being present & only at the end of the drive
[18:54] <mk> if it's up on packages.ubuntu.com, shouldn't I see it in my manager?
[18:54] <inashdeen> Muelli : no, it is a keyboard lock while your screen is still on
[18:54] <Muelli> inashdeen: there is sms-manager (or so). But there is also a GNOME application for that.
[18:54] <Abhijit> mk, duh
[18:54] <ikonia> moonchild: it can't read the partition table
[18:54] <mk> Abhijit: yeah, I just looked that up and made sure it was
[18:54] <chiofalo> ciao a tutti ho un problema, quando minimizzo una finestra non mi rimane l'icona sulla barra in basso per poterla riaprire e utilizzarla che faccio?
[18:54] <Muelli> inashdeen: how would you ever unlock the keyboard?
[18:54] <ikonia> !it | chiofalo
[18:54] <moonchild> I'm wondering if a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mapper/isw* is in order?
[18:54] <dekkard> Is there a problem with nasty and gma 4500 graphics cards on laptops?
[18:54] <ikonia> moonchild: certainly not
[18:54] <mk> universe is enabled, but I still can't see it
[18:54] <Abhijit> mk, so everything is checked and still you are not seeing the package? then may be the version of your ubuntu and the one the packeg is intended is for may be different
[18:54] <inashdeen> Muelli : well, based on experience in windows, you put the keyboard code. means, if let say u lock your keyboard, but if u press ctrl + alt + 89999 it will unlock ( just an example)
[18:54] <mk> Abhijit: how do I check that?
[18:54] <oCean> mk: are you using oneiric?
[18:54] <inashdeen> anyone else on the sms through usb modem?
[18:54] <Muelli> inashdeen: I am not aware of such a software.
[18:54] <Abhijit> mk, give me the exact link of the web page you are seeing that package
[18:54] <mk> oCean: I don't know if I am
[18:54] <Muelli> inashdeen: I gave you two pointers already. follow them first
[18:54] <ikonia> inashdeen: you need a mobile network provider for that
[18:54] <mk> http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/racket
[18:54] <oCean> mk: you pasted a link to the oneiric repository before
[18:54] <oCean> mk: run lsb_release -a in a terminal
[18:54] <mk> what does that do?
[18:54] <Gerrin> multi card reader is showing as a drive on my computer, but not showing the sd card ive put in it, can anyone help?
[18:54] <Ibyss> What's up with installing java on a ubuntu server 11 being rather annoying to install?   The error messages say something about "No canidate". I tried to install "Openjdk" or something like that, and I'm still having problem installing java.
[18:54] <oCean> mk: shows you the version ubuntu you are using
[18:54] <Muelli> Gerrin: maybe you didn't put it in correctly...?
[18:54] <oCean> !info racket | mk
[18:54] <Gerrin> im not a dumbass lol
[18:54] <mk> 11.04 natty
[18:54] <pratz_>  hey guys i am using xchat-gnome , but when i join a channel and next time i start xchat, all the channal which i had joined previous are not available and i need to join them manually again, i.e i can not see them in the side panel , any ideas ??
[18:54] <Gerrin> its in correctly, which is the only way it will go in
[18:54] <oCean> oCean: as ubottu explained, that package is not available for natty
[18:54] <inashdeen> ikonia : the modem is with a network provider. here's the prob. i used prepaid internet sim card on my usb modem. so when i want to recharge, i need to send an empty sms let say to 555. so how do i do that, since in windows, u can do it through the modem manager thingy
[18:54] <mk> ok. so I have to wait until it's released for natty?
[18:54] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> pratz_: This has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[18:54] <Abhijit> mk, nope
[18:54] <Muelli> Gerrin: I'd remove the card, do a sudo dmesg -c, put the card it and do a sudo dmesg -c | pastebinit to debug
[18:54] <Abhijit> mk, you can directly get it from thier original website
[18:54] <ikonia> inashdeen: the modem should provide linux software to do this
[18:54] <ikonia> inashdeen: if not contact the modem provider for it
[18:54] <mk> if I'd like to use the package manager, though?
[18:54] <mk> it's a matter of their updating the package?
[18:54] <oCean> mk: you cannot get it through repositories/packagemanger
[18:54] <Abhijit> mk, then for officail package you need to wait. and for unofficial you can add ppa if its available
[18:54] <mOHawk> hello, i'm currently downloading 11.04 ubuntu 32 bit and want to know if it will run on a system of 1gb RAM? if there a any downsides to doing this?
[18:54] <sudokill> pratz, its in the network lsit options
[18:54] <mk> what is ppa?
[18:54] <Abhijit> !ppa | mk
[18:54] <ikonia> mOHawk: read the minimum and recommended requirements on the website
[18:54] <oCean> mk: third party repositories
[18:54] <inashdeen> ikonia : too bad they dont, when i when to the office that day, they dont even know what's a linux :9
[18:54] <mk> ok, thank you all
[18:54] <Abhijit> mk, welcome
[18:54] <ubun> ive been following instructions to install ffmpeg Ubuntuforums, but i get this error"ERROR: libx264 not found " any help please?
[18:55] <sudokill> anyway..
[18:55] <l0nwlf_> I'm installing Ubuntu 10.04.  In try ubuntu my mouse works and touchpad does not while when I installed it, neither works. My system is HP Elitebook 6930p.
[18:55] <manuel_> hello
[18:55] <sudokill> hi
[18:55] <cryoniccore> I installed ubuntu on my macbook pro but I cant get the audio to work. Any thoughts?
[18:55] <Muelli> l0nwlf_: that's weird. Is the system fully upgraded?
[18:55] <manuel_> I'm having problems with empathy, can somebody help me out?
[18:55] <skypc> SEX
[18:55] <sudokill> oh how rude
[18:55] <skypc> FR4FVR
[18:55] <Abhijit> !sound | cryoniccore
[18:55] <Muelli> cryoniccore: how do you know you can't get it to work?
[18:55] <arielpx> hi guys, i'll apreciate if someone help me with this: i've to make a new project on netbeans from existing sources, but the sources are on an ubuntu server machine on my network, I can access it perfectly on my machine, but on netbeans there is no way to open it, any idea about this?
[18:55] <skypc> GTGVG
[18:55] <skypc> RGG
[18:55] <skypc> ]
[18:55] <l0nwlf_> mk: I am doing a fresh install.
[18:55] <skypc> T
[18:55] <Muelli> !anyone | manuel_
[18:55] <l0nwlf_> Muelli: I did fresh install. So the system is not upgraded.
[18:56] <rudy__> Hi, I just wiped my home directory by accident and I need to re-copy the basic home directory.. i thought it was in like /etc or something but I can't find it.  where are the basic home directory scripts (with the syntax highlighting and stuff)
[18:56] <gmachine_24> Greeting Earthlings! I have a new comp; so far Win7 and a derivative of Ubuntu (Artist X) are installed on one hard drive; I am wanting to install a third OS and want to know if I can install that third OS, which will be Ubuntu's latest LTS, on a second internal hard drive without mucking up the works. Thanks.
[18:56] <Muelli> l0nwlf_: yeah, well. First of all, I'd file a bug. secondly, try to upgrade your system by firing up a Terminal (ctrl+alt+t) and do smth like "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[18:57] <stercor> I'm on 10.04.2LTS.  I can't find a Trash container.  How do I empty the trash?
[18:57] <arielpx> hi guys, i'll apreciate if someone help me with this: i've to make a new project on netbeans from existing sources, but the sources are on an ubuntu server machine on my network, I can access it perfectly on my machine, but on netbeans there is no way to open it, any idea about this?
[18:57] <gmachine_24> rudy_ well home is just /home/yourhomefoldername
[18:57] <Muelli> arielpx: how do you know you can't access it?
[18:57] <l0nwlf_> Muelli: let me try the same.  It is difficult to set wi-fi and everything only via keyboard.
[18:57] <rudy__> gmachine_24 there is nothing in my home, I'm talking about the RC scripts
[18:58] <Muelli> l0nwlf_: you should get a keyboard based mouse if you press, hm, ctrl+num lock I thinkg
[18:58] <sudokill> gmachine_24, you can install ubuntu on a second hdd yes
[18:58] <rudy__> the bash scripts that are usually included in ur home with a fresh install of ubuntu
[18:58] <sudokill> 3 os's though?
[18:58] <rudy__> i deleted them
[18:58] <sudokill> :s
[18:58] <rudy__> can i copy them from somewhere else
[18:58] <gmachine_24> rudy_ yes well I was wondering; my answer to your RC scripts ? is I don't know
[18:58] <gmachine_24> sudokill, thanks
[18:58] <Muelli> l0nwlf_: ctrl+shift+numlock
[18:58] <stercor> Would I create problems if I simply delete .local/share/Trash?
[18:58] <sudokill> no
[18:58] <rudy__> it should be in like /usr/share
[18:58] <oCean> rudy__: /etc/skel
[18:58] <rudy__> thank you very much oCean
[18:58] <Muelli> stercor: probably not.
[18:58] <sudokill> stercor, why do you want to delete trash folder?
[18:59] <sudokill> you can with no problems, bu why
[18:59] <stercor> sudokill: Because it's 30.8GB.
[18:59] <Ibyss> What's up with installing java on a ubuntu server 11 being rather annoying to install?   The error messages say something about "No canidate". I tried to install "Openjdk" or something like that, and I'm still having problem installing java.
[18:59] <sudokill> stercor, just delete the contents
[18:59] <manuel_> Hello
[18:59] <gmachine_24> stercor... what sudokill said
[18:59] <sudokill> stercor, it should clear every so often 30 days maybe idk
[18:59] <manuel_> I'm having some problems with empathy, can somebody help me out, please?
[18:59] <stercor> sudokill: Thanks!
[18:59] <Muelli> !anyone | manuel_
[19:00] <sudokill> stercor, or, just choose not to use trash and delete files directly
[19:00] <athnam> Muelli: I copied lshw onto pendrive. Where do I send it?
[19:00] <Muelli> athnam: pastebin.com or so. dpaste.com
[19:00] <o0_0o> !ping
[19:01] <bazzdee> hi
[19:01] <gmachine_24> which planet?
[19:01] <manuel_> ok, my problem (with empathy) is basically that I don't know why it doesn't load my accounts, sometimes they load and I can chat, but most of the times no.
[19:02] <manuel_> I don't know what to do, I believe with just clicking available, but nothing happens.
[19:02] <manuel_> I'm using (and intersted) in ICQ, msn & facebook
[19:03] <manuel_> can anyone help me out with my problem, please?
[19:04] <paolo_> Hi. I'm searching for an application which consists in a customizable grid of buttons, each one having its customizable icon and the possibility to add an action to each button. Something like that: http://people.easter-eggs.org/~valos/wmdrawer/  (which has many problems). Any idea?
[19:04] <Muelli> manuel_: I'd google for "debug empathy"
[19:04] <manuel_> thanks, I'll try it now
[19:05] <oCean> Muelli: please don't just refer to 'search google'
[19:05] <athnam> Muelli: wow! Is this what you need?  *-network DISABLED                 description: Wireless interface                 product: BCM4311 802.11a/b/g                 vendor: Broadcom Corporation                 physical id: 0                 bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0                 logical name: wlan0                 version: 02                 serial: 00:21:00:36:fb:4e                 width: 64 bits                 clock: 33MHz
[19:05] <Muelli> athnam: yeah :) pretty much. Broadcom, hm. Not a good card to be used in Linux :-\
[19:06] <o0_0o> could someone recommend some 4port Ethernet cards? besides Sun's
[19:07] <Muelli> athnam: so you could now go off and research what the driver situation for BCM43xx is. It's probably not very good and you have to install some weird driver via the Terminal.
[19:08] <athnam> Muelli: can you point me in the right direction?
[19:08] <CodenameStrike> I accidentally bricked my GRUB on my 11.04 installation, I'm now trying to proceed without a LiveCD. At one point while following the Ubuntu GRUB Rescue guide I stumbled upon this problem: "error: symbol not found: 'grub_mm_base'"
[19:08] <Muelli> athnam: my browser is slow atm but having searched for "linux bcm4311" yielded quite a few well looking results.
[19:08] <CodenameStrike> How do I figure what to do next?
[19:09] <kalofoli> hi guys!! how can i upgrade from jaunty?
[19:09] <kalofoli> as painlessly as possible?
[19:09] <IdleOne> !upgrade
[19:09] <kalofoli> update manager does not support 10.04LTS
[19:09] <Muelli> athnam: a "lsmod" could be interesting, too. To check which driver you have loaded already
[19:09] <athnam> Muelli: thanks. I'll try that for while. I'll be back, I'm sure:)
[19:09] <oCean> kalofoli: I would say, backup and do a fresh install
[19:09] <gmachine_24> kalofoli: the only way I ever upgrade any more is to back up my data, and do a fresh install
[19:10] <kalofoli> oCean, not an poption
[19:10] <oCean> kalofoli: ?
[19:10] <kalofoli> oh...
[19:10] <gmachine_24> How can it not be an option?
[19:10] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> kalofoli: Go to /etc/apt/sources.list, and change everything that says 'jaunty' to 'natty'
[19:10] <Muelli> athnam: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Broadcom_wireless seems to be interesting...
[19:10] <CodenameStrike> kalofoli: You'll have to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10
[19:10] <kalofoli> MAREK_BENC_NetB, cool.. will it wiork?
[19:10] <CodenameStrike> and then from 9.10 to 10.04
[19:10] <kalofoli> ok
[19:10] <o0_0o> kalofoli: +1
[19:10] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> kalofoli: And then just apt-get dust-upgrade
[19:11] <kalofoli> ok, I am doing it on my own responsibility,
[19:11] <kalofoli> but what chances of success do i have with that? (jaunty->natty-> automatic update to 10.04 )
[19:11] <athnam> Muelli: You are awesome, and I REALLY appreciate your expertise.
[19:11] <kalofoli> dist-upgrade *
[19:11] <Muelli> athnam: glad I could help :)
[19:11] <stercor> \part
[19:12] <IdleOne> kalofoli: why don't you read the links ubottu sent you and do it the right way
[19:12] <Muelli> athnam: next time you see anybody having similar problems, you might be able to help that person :-)
[19:12] <Utopiah> should I rename /sbin/start-stop-daemon.REAL to /sbin/start-stop-daemon? and if so why wasn't it done during the install? (still lost with upstart and not being able to have lighttpd at boot)
[19:12] <kalofoli> i have about 5 mins availlable..
[19:12] <RJ_26JA> hi
[19:12] <IdleOne> kalofoli: then wait till you have more time
[19:12] <kalofoli> I need a package, desperately.
[19:12] <redashes> Just have to say that I love Ubuntu, I love how it is free, and I love how easy it is to use.  Thank you, whoever programmed it, as soon as I get some extra ca$h I will donate to the project.
[19:12] <athnam> Muelli: I'll do my best. I'm really new to ubuntu.
[19:12] <kalofoli> namely mercurial, and the repositories of jaunty are all dead
[19:12] <Phreak_> Anyone an IRCop in here?
[19:13] <Muelli> kalofoli: you can download from packages.ubuntu.com
[19:13] <stercor> Can I upgrade from 10.04.2LTS to 11.04 without reformatting partitions?
[19:13] <CodenameStrike> I accidentally bricked my GRUB on my 11.04 installation, I'm now trying to proceed without a LiveCD. At one point while following the Ubuntu GRUB Rescue guide I stumbled upon this problem: "error: symbol not found: 'grub_mm_base'"
[19:13] <CodenameStrike> Anyone?
[19:13] <Muelli> stercor: yes
[19:13] <oCean> kalofoli: please ignore MAREK_BENC_NetB's advice. That's not the way to upgrade
[19:13] <kalofoli> Muelli, so, no need to upgradE?
[19:13] <oneliner> Unity seems to miss accationally on some resets, how can i restart the "desktop"?
[19:13] <pcoder> Hi everyone, Can anyone tell me about Ubuntu Kiosk mode? How do I get it installed?
[19:13] <Polah> stercor: Yes, but you'll need to go to 10.10 first.
[19:13] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> oCean: It isn't?
[19:13] <Muelli> kalofoli: dunno what you want to achieve
[19:14] <kalofoli> Muelli, can I add this to my repos, at lest temporarilly?
[19:14] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> oCean: I do it all the time, and it works
[19:14] <oCean> MAREK_BENC_NetB: definitely not. You cannot jump that many releases
[19:14] <arielpx> Muelli: because there is no way to open it from netbeans
[19:14] <kalofoli> I need in the next 5 mins to habve mercurial and a list of other packages
[19:14] <kalofoli> that's all
[19:14] <Muelli> kalofoli: sorry, I didn't read your initial question hence I don't know what you want to do.
[19:14] <kalofoli> oh, I have jaunty
[19:14] <kalofoli> so, it seems I cannot aptitude install anything
[19:14] <oCean> kalofoli: did you read the link ubottu send you?
[19:14] <Phreak_> Anyone an IRCop in here?
[19:15] <oCean> Phreak_: try #ubuntu-ops if you need to talk to ubuntu ops
[19:15] <ikonia> Phreak_: what's the problem
[19:15] <Northernen> CodenameStrike, no access to LiveCD?
[19:15] <IdleOne> MAREK_BENC_NetB: WFM is the best way to help someone break their system.
[19:15] <ikonia> Phreak_: actually oCean's suggestion is better
[19:15] <Muelli> kalofoli: but generally speaking, you can mix and match packages from several releases, but it's dangerous and not recommended at all. You want to google "apt pinning" first, before you attempt to do any of that
[19:15] <Polah> kalofoli, I don't think the Jaunty repositories are even accessible any more.
[19:15] <kalofoli> Polah, they are not, that's why i can't install anything
[19:15] <oCean> kalofoli: did you read the link ubottu send you?
[19:15] <pcoder> Hello Please someone help me with Ubuntu kiosk mode ..
[19:15] <kalofoli> I have to upgrade, sometime, but right now all i need is 2 packages
[19:16] <Muelli> !anyone | pcoder
[19:16] <Muelli> kalofoli: just download the .debs and dpkg -i them...
[19:16] <kalofoli> oCean, no, i decided if i don't *have* to upgrade, i wont
[19:16] <CodenameStrike> Northernen: I don't have a live media ready, and am downloading the 11.04 ISO as I speak for a last resort. However I need to get this over preferably before I can even get started on that
[19:16] <Polah> kalofoli: Consider upgrading in that case. You'd be much more secure and actually be able to find up-to-date version of programs if you do so.
[19:16] <oCean> kalofoli: it's not only about upgrading
[19:16] <Muelli> kalofoli: fingers crossed that it won't break anything.
[19:16] <kalofoli> Muelli, how about the dependencies?
[19:16] <oCean> kalofoli: it explains where the !eol packages are
[19:16] <Muelli> kalofoli: it will complain if it doesn't have the necessary deps ;-)
[19:16] <kalofoli> Polah, i'd try to avoid it now
[19:16] <x32324f> hello, i have tried ping, fping, oping and they all have the flood interval very limited. i was used to test my server using a centos ping that worked great. any solutions ?
[19:16] <CodenameStrike> Northernen: to add, reformatting/reinstalling is not an option.
[19:16] <IdleOne> kalofoli: jaunty is EOL (End of life) you will not be able to install anything because those repos are closed. see /msg ubottu !eol
[19:17] <kalofoli>  /msg ubottu !eol
[19:17] <Polah> kalofoli: Upgrading would be the best option, I'd say.
[19:17] <GOMI> got a weird problem , when i finished downloading something and try to open it , it gives me an ERROR
[19:17] <pcoder> ubottu: I have seen people using Kiosk mode in Ubuntu and they get the option at the login time?? How do I get it enabled?
[19:17] <GOMI> could not display ......... the location is not a folder
[19:17] <Muelli> :D
[19:17] <pcoder> ubottu: really??
[19:17] <GOMI> what to do about it
[19:17] <kalofoli> so, its not like debian that we simply change the repos and do an upgrade?
[19:17] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> XDXD
[19:17] <pcoder> :(
[19:17] <Muelli> kalofoli: you could do that. But it's not recommended.
[19:18] <cryoniccore> ubuntu apparently thinks that my sound has to do with my video drivers? how do I change drivers for ubuntu for sound?
[19:18] <Muelli> kalofoli: in fact, that's what the ubuntu upgrade tool would do, but it does more stuff on top
[19:18] <kalofoli> Muelli, l see..
[19:18] <wildc4rd> evenin all!
[19:19] <Pard> Anyone know a neat way to delete all files of a certain type? Rhythmbox downloaded all my iPod music as .mp4 and now that I have Banshee it changed it all to .mp3 but didn't delete the .mp4 so I am stuck with both types of files in the folder.
[19:19] <IdleOne> kalofoli: it is not like debian. you can go from LTS to LTS but because you are using an EOL version there are other steps you need to take. see the info from ubottu
[19:19] <kalofoli> ok, I s/jaunty/natty -i /etc/apt/sources* and i installed my packages..
[19:19] <kalofoli> tomorrow I'm either installing fresh, or going to migrate to debian :) thanks guys!
[19:19] <IdleOne> kalofoli: if you are going to refuse to follow the proper advice I am going to remove you.
[19:20] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Ubuntu is booring!
[19:20] <agus_sintang> why?
[19:20] <Polah> Pard: rm *.mp4
[19:20] <kalofoli> oh, Muelli, if I do the upgrade the debian way, what are the chances something would go wrong?
[19:20] <oCean> MAREK_BENC_NetB: stay on topic please
[19:20] <Pard> Polah: Thank you. I knew there was something just couldn't recall what.
[19:20] <Polah> kalofoli: Impossible to say, do a backup first if you want.
[19:20] <Muelli> kalofoli: Well. Quite high, but I wouldn't expect any major damage.  But that's rather easy to handle I'd say.
[19:20] <Polah> Pard: * is a wildcard for most things.
[19:21] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> You need to use these strange GUI apps that make the system bug and clunky, just to upgrade
[19:21] <oCean> Muelli: please don't suggest dangerous ways to upgrade. Or will you be here to guarantee a fix for all of the problems?
[19:22] <Polah> MAREK_BENC_NetB, no you don't. Install update-manager-core and use do-release-upgrade to upgrade from the command line
[19:22] <Pard> Just a question for my own knowledge. Why is it (in 11.04) that sometimes I have to go to tty7 to get to X and other times I have to go to tt8 to get to X?
[19:22] <bcessa> hi there, question, how can I run a md5 or shasum on the contents of a directory recursively?
[19:22] <michael_bklnny> Hi everyone, I'm running and Acer Aspire with an Intel Series 4 embedded graphics chip, and I've been stuck in low graphics mode since upgrading to Natty Narwhal.
[19:22] <Polah> Pard: I've noticed that too, usually when I shut down X and it restarts I believe. Don't know quite why it switches though.
[19:23] <TrevInc> michael_bklnny, are you using Unity or GNOME?
[19:23] <Pard> Polah: Thanks again
[19:23] <l0nwlf_> Muelli: It worked after I re-installed it.  Basically I was not formating the older partitions and was just installing over it. This time I checked "format", thats it.
[19:23] <trism> bcessa: find /path/to/directory -type f -exec md5sum "{}" \;
[19:23] <BernardV> Pard: if it's in multiple folders you can use find and pass it to rm, something like this: rm -rf `find ./ -type f -name *.mp4`
[19:23] <BernardV> where ./ states "every subfolder, including current"
[19:23] <Polah> Pard: I didn't really answer your questions, I just said that I've noticed it as well
[19:24] <michael_bklnny> TrevInc: Thanks for the reply. I don't think I've been given the option to use Unity since it can't detect my graphics settings. In low graphics mode it boots me into Gnome environment.
[19:24] <MagicJ> I have the standard weather applet installed in my panel - my closest site is Ft Collins CO, well, they have not updated since Friday - who do I report this to and how
[19:24] <trism> bcessa: and of course you can sub md5sum for sha256sum or whatever
[19:24] <michael_bklnny> my xorg.conf file is empty
[19:24] <bcessa> trism: thnx a lot
[19:24] <Pard> Polah: Gave me a place to start my investigation.
[19:24] <Polah> BernardV: Pard: That seems rather complicated. I believe rm -r *.mp4 would do the same thing, would it not?
[19:24] <Polah> Pard: Ah I see
[19:24] <michael_bklnny> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does nothing
[19:25] <TrevInc> michael_bklnny, I have the same problem. Good luck finding an answer, I haven't been able to either.
[19:25] <Pard> BernardV: Thanks. I was thinking CD /home/music rm *.mp4 or something should do it.
[19:25] <TrevInc> Sorry I can't help
[19:25] <japro> Hi, is there a known issue/fix for overheating with mobile i5 processors?
[19:25] <Ibyss> What does "apt-get clean" Do?
[19:25] <BernardV> Polah: It does if all files are in the same folder, but if you have sub folders like music/artist/album/file.mp4 the find method works fine :)
[19:25] <michael_bklnny> TrevInc well that makes me feel at least a little more sane...that I'm not the only one! :)
[19:25] <Polah> BernardV: The -r switch should recurse it into subdirectories, I thought?
[19:26] <andai> iPod Touch 2G, what software should I use to manage music?
[19:26] <Polah> BernardV: Just tested, found out it doesn't. Nevermind
[19:26] <japro> I upgraded my laptop from a i3 to a i5 an I think the fan control is not working properly.
[19:26] <cryoniccore> I am still having problems with my sound
[19:27] <BernardV> Polah: You could be right :P Never used it that way, haha!
[19:27] <Polah> BernardV: I'm wrong, it doesn't work that way. Seems like it should though D:
[19:27] <BernardV> Polah: Only for deleting a folder with all contents rm -Rf ...
[19:27] <manuel_> can anyone help me out with empathy? I just can't make it work
[19:28] <Polah> manuel_, more detail on your issue sure would be helpful
[19:28] <manuel_> I can't access my accounts in empathy (but I have once done it, so no missing packages)
[19:28] <manuel_> I click available and nothing happens...
[19:29] <manuel_> maybe updating will help, I'm running pinguy, and empathy 2.34
[19:29] <japro> does anyone here have a mobile first generation core-i cpu?
[19:29] <manuel_> hmm... it just worked, anyhow i want to know if there is anything to do to assure it will always works...
[19:30] <sudokill> japro, maybe its a bios setting
[19:30] <olafur> good afternoon
[19:30] <manuel_> anyone¿
[19:31] <japro> sudokill, well, for one thing there is not really much to "set" in the bios and it works flawlessly in windows
[19:31] <oneliner> unity question, the standard file |view | edit | etc options for a given program are not displaying on the main bar, any ideas?
[19:31] <olafur> does anyone know how to solve a printing problem?
[19:31] <speedrunnerG55> hi
[19:31] <cryoniccore> I have a cirrus logic CS4206 in my macbook pro and I can't get the sound to work. Can someone please help?
[19:31] <Polah> olafur: That would depend on what the problem is.
[19:31] <japro> i'm not sure if this is a knew  problem or if it existed before but didn't show because of the low tdp of te i3
[19:32] <speedrunnerG55> how can i add fonts to ubuntu so i can use them in gimp?
[19:32] <sudokill> japro, what is it? that your fan is at 100% all the time or something?
[19:32] <paolo_> is there a way to show the window name of the window that currently has focus?
[19:32] <olafur> Polah, the printer just doesnt print, I get the messages on the printers display that its printing from computer and then nothing happens
[19:32] <japro> basically when i run ubuntu i get no temperature readings whatsoever and the fan doesn't spin up even if the heat sink temperature suggests it should
[19:32] <japro> no, the exact opposite if you will
[19:32] <japro> I get severe throtteling issues when i run something like minecraft
[19:33] <sudokill> japro, did you change laptops? or the cpu itself
[19:33] <japro> cpu
[19:33] <olafur> the printer is on and connected, but i did not find the correct printer in the printers list for ubuntu
[19:33] <mman> how to copy files based on a year? i tried: ll |grep -e 2011|cp * /location/  but that copies all files, not the ones that grep gets
[19:33] <sudokill> japro, i know nothing about changing laptop cpu, maybe you didnt put it in properly or the heatsink, thermal ocmpiund or something?
[19:33] <Polah> japro: Do you have the sensors package installed. Also, if the fan control isn't in the BIOS then it's probably from a program, i.e. for Windows.
[19:33] <japro> the point is, it correctly spin up to full sped in windows and all temperatures are reasonable even under full load "games"
[19:33] <sudokill> ok
[19:34] <sudokill> japro, no idea
[19:34] <japro> lm-sensors finds no sensor whatsoever.
[19:34] <sudokill> doesnt on mine either
[19:34] <priest> hi! in vlc the sound is delayed when i'm watching mkv movies. any suggests?
[19:35] <mman> priest, i think you can shift the sound if im not wrong
[19:35] <japro> i found some threads in the forum suggesting that the 2.6-32 kernel doesn't support i5 fully and mentions turbo boost not working as well as the lack of temperature readings, which wouldn't be so bad
[19:36] <sudokill> japro, maybe, but that kernel is old
[19:36] <sudokill> is that what you use?
[19:36] <Pard> Such a newb question but... I'm in the terminal. I type "CD music" and it tells me the directory doesn't exist. I type "ls" and a list of the directories pop up and there is the music directory even though it says it isn't there when I try to change to it. My brain is so fried today.
[19:36] <sudokill> Pard, capital letters?
[19:36] <tsimpson> Pard: is it "music" or "Music"?
[19:36] <quaisi>   Pard: capital M on Music?
[19:36] <mman> Prad, use "cd" insted of CD
[19:36] <japro> yeah, I guess i have to upgrade from lucid then?
[19:36] <irmgard__> in #ucc
[19:36] <Polah> Pard: cd should be lowercase and make sure capitalisation is correct on the directory name
[19:37] <priest> mman, where can i shift the sound?
[19:37] <japro> that is the latest kernel apt-cache shows me
[19:37] <priest> *how
[19:37] <sudokill> japro, youd be beter off going for a newer kernel to minimise problems
[19:37] <Pard> I could slap myself so hard right now. thanks guys. Heat isn't good for my brain.
[19:37] <mman> priest, let me check, i know in mplayer you can, let me check on vlc
[19:37] <sudokill> priest, you shouldnt need to shift the sound, it should work properly thatd be a bad fix
[19:37] <Polah> japro: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[19:37] <sudokill> especially only for mkvs
[19:37] <mman> priest, what sudokill says is also true!!!
[19:38] <japro> 10.04 "lucid lynx"
[19:38] <priest> sudokill, in kmplayer the sound is good
[19:38] <sudokill> priest, i no longer use vlc but have a look in the audio options see if theres something you can tick / untick there that sounds like it might help
[19:38] <mman> how to copy files based on a year? i tried: ll |grep -e 2011|cp * /location/  but that copies all files, not the ones that grep gets. any idea?
[19:39] <japro> ok, now i feel stupid. after running apt-get update there is even 2.6-35 ... I assumed the update thingy would automatically go for that
[19:39] <sudokill> japro, afaik the update manager does do kernels
[19:39] <trakinas> mman: I think you will need to use xargs or something for that matter.
[19:40] <priest> sudokill, i've checked but nothing worked
[19:40] <japro> yeah, it installed the one i have now like 2 weeks ago
[19:40] <ohir> mman: either use find (man find) or use backticks to filter what you wanted'
[19:40] <trakinas> ubottu xargs | mman
[19:40] <olafur> is there a plugin for canon mp540?
[19:40] <ohir> mman: second needs more filtering though than you showed us
[19:41] <sudokill> priest, try resetting your config? type vlc --resrt-config in terminal see if it works
[19:41] <japro> apparently the generic package still defaults to 32
[19:41] <Pard> Pretty much giving up on installing twin in 11.04. Anyone know any other program that works like twin?
[19:41] <sudokill> --reset-config *
[19:42] <Polah> Pard: What is it and perhaps an alternate could be suggested.
[19:43] <Pard> Sorry. Twin (Text-Based WINdows is a window manager for terminal. Doesn't use X very handy for lowend PCs and when I just want to throw X out the window.
[19:43] <Wiallim> Bey,everybody. GOOD LUCK : )
[19:43] <japro> sudokill, uhm, what should i use that option with? i now just explicitly installed the 35-25 image
[19:43] <sudokill> japro, what option?
[19:43] <Polah> Pard: Sounds a lot like screen; comes with Ubuntu. Look up the man page for it.
[19:43] <Polah> !screen | Pard
[19:44] <japro> sorry, i thought that: "<sudokill> --reset-config *" was for me :)
[19:44] <sudokill> japro, no sorry :p
[19:44] <Pard> Must go try this out. Thanks.
[19:44] <japro> so rebooting. thx
[19:45] <sudokill> Pard, how old is your comp?
[19:45] <priest> sudokill, it still doesn't work, i think i will use kmplayer. thanks for your help
[19:45] <sudokill> priest, good idea
[19:45] <cryoniccore> ubuntu is not recognizing my audio card in my mac. Can someone help?
[19:45] <sudokill> i started to hate vlc too
[19:45] <Pard> Well this one is only a year old but the one I use twin on came with 95 from the store.
[19:45] <olafur> ok, does anyone know how to get bluetooth going?
[19:45] <mman> ohir,  i just need to filter all files that where created on 2011
[19:46] <Utopiah> is there an up to date tutorial on how Upstart is used on natty that I could use to make a lighttpd daemon conf file?
[19:46] <olafur> it just wont turn on, on my computer
[19:46] <cryoniccore> !sound
[19:46] <DasEi> Utopiah: still not done ?
[19:46] <moonchild> ikonia: still here?
[19:46] <Utopiah> DasEi: :(
[19:47] <ikonia> moonchild: yes
[19:47] <Utopiah> DasEi: I dont get it, I have /sbin/initctl.REAL  /sbin/start-stop-daemon.REAL thus empty -REAL equivalent, yet everything works well but /etc/rc.local get ignored, same for /etc/init.d/rc.local
[19:48] <moonchild> sorry, I was afk for a bit having a discussion with my father about his cancer
[19:48] <ikonia> moonchild: no problem, big topic,
[19:49] <moonchild> yeah, anyway, I'm doing a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mapper/isw...
[19:49] <ikonia> moonchild: I advised against that, but "ok"
[19:49] <cryoniccore> whats the default root pass for ubuntu?
[19:49] <ikonia> cryoniccore: there isn't one
[19:49] <sudokill> none
[19:49] <moonchild> there's nothing on the three drives that I care about
[19:49] <sudokill> cryoniccore, you have to set one yourself
[19:50] <sudokill> cryoniccore, but ubuntu locks the root account so people dont log in as root
[19:50] <sudokill> use sudo -i
[19:50] <astraljava> sudokill: Please, no.
[19:50] <cryoniccore> sudokill, oh ok. How would I do that?
[19:50] <ikonia> astraljava: what's the problem ?
[19:50] <astraljava> !root
[19:50] <moonchild> I'm actually kicking myself for being as impatient as I've been to ^c it
[19:50] <ikonia> astraljava: his command is valid
[19:51] <sudokill> astraljava, no what?
[19:51] <ikonia> sudokill: nothing - sudo -i is fine
[19:51] <astraljava> ikonia: Oh, yeah. sudo -i is good, but please let's not advise people to set the root password.
[19:51] <ikonia> astraljava: he didn't
[19:51] <astraljava> [21:49] < sudokill> cryoniccore, you have to set one yourself
[19:51] <sudokill> nothing wrong with setting root password tbh, ubuntu is one of the only distros that locks root anyway
[19:52] <astraljava> ikonia: Do I read that wrong, then?
[19:52] <JoliPwnna> Erm My swap on my ubuntu machine is almost full
[19:52] <ikonia> astraljava: I think that's just working
[19:52] <ikonia> astraljava: "wording" sorry
[19:52] <JoliPwnna> i have 50mb free, anyway to free it? If it reaches full, everything freezes
[19:52] <astraljava> ikonia: Ok.
[19:52] <ikonia> JoliPwnna: if you're swapping out you are having ram problems,
[19:52] <ikonia> JoliPwnna: consider increasing your swap partition size
[19:52] <JoliPwnna> ikonia: it's 4GB
[19:52] <sudokill> JoliPwnna, find out whats using it
[19:53] <JoliPwnna> sudokill: how?
[19:53] <sudokill> if its stuff you need, then use a lighter de or distro maybe
[19:53] <sw0rdfish> hi, du -m will show me directory size right?
[19:53] <sudokill> JoliPwnna, top should tell you
[19:53] <sudokill> the %
[19:53] <JoliPwnna> sudokill: i doubt it. i don't have much open atm
[19:53] <sudokill> type top in the terminal
[19:54] <JoliPwnna> yeah
[19:54] <JoliPwnna> i'm in that already
[19:54] <sudokill> and it will tell you what programs are using what % ram
[19:54] <JoliPwnna> RAM is not full
[19:54] <JoliPwnna> ram is at 40%
[19:54] <JoliPwnna> 4GB
[19:54] <sudokill> ok
[19:54] <sudokill> i thought you had 50mb free
[19:54] <sudokill> my bad
[19:54] <JoliPwnna> but swap is also 4GB, only 47MB free.
[19:54] <JoliPwnna> if swap is full, i can't use my computer
[19:54] <sudokill> JoliPwnna, swap uses it
[19:54] <sudokill> dont worry about it its supposed to im pretty sure
[19:54] <sudokill> for cache
[19:55] <DasEi> Utopiah: had to look myself, it's still in init.d so a   /etc/init.d/lighttpd start  in /etc/rc.local should do, apart from possible permission issues (check syslog for that)
[19:55] <n-iCe> hi, how do I check if my graphic card is installed?
[19:55] <n-iCe> there was a command to check it out I forgot it
[19:55] <JoliPwnna> sudokill: if swap is used 100%. my interface freezes.
[19:55] <n-iCe> to see if 3D acceleration is ok, etc
[19:55] <JoliPwnna> and i have to either hardreset, or wait 20 minutes for the mouse to move.
[19:55] <sudokill> JoliPwnna, not sure why it would hit 100% if not all your ram is being used
[19:55] <cryoniccore> Does anybody know what the sound card is for macbook pro?
[19:56] <JoliPwnna> sudokill: i suspect a faulty program
[19:56] <JoliPwnna> but idk, i need to figure out what
[19:56] <sudokill> cryoniccore, google it i doubt theyre all the same cards in every macbook pro
[19:56] <DasEi> cryoniccore: lspci | grep vga could tell
[19:56] <Utopiah> DasEi: /etc/init.d/lighttpd start was the first thing I tried but since it calls initcl (rather than initctl.REAL) it returns "Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing."
[19:56] <JoliPwnna> now i have 61mb
[19:57] <JoliPwnna> after closing libreoffice
[19:57] <JoliPwnna> 95 after emesene closes
[19:57] <drake01> Please visit this forum post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11011445#post11011445
[19:57] <quicoju> I'm having problems to find the nbsmtp package for luicid lynx, any idea what's the name for that package ?
[19:58] <cryoniccore> DasEi, when i place that into terminal, Nothing happens
[19:58] <sudokill> cryonic try sudo lspci
[19:58] <shezri> android channel
[19:59] <cryoniccore> DasEi, Still nothing.
[19:59] <sudokill> cryoniccore, what macbook pro is it ill google it for you
[20:00] <cryoniccore> sudokill, Macbook pro 5-5
[20:00] <n-iCe> hi, how do I check if my graphic card is installed?
[20:00] <n-iCe> to see if 3D acceleration is ok, etc
[20:00] <cryoniccore> sudokill, 13inc
[20:00] <sudokill> cryoniccore, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1188849
[20:01] <DasEi> Utopiah: try sudo service lighttpd, last time I used it was maverick
[20:01] <vlt> n-iCe: lspci should tell you.
[20:01] <JoliPwnna> sudokill: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1557856/temporary/Screenshot-System%20Monitor.png
[20:01] <DasEi> Utopiah: try sudo service lighttpd start    , last time I used it was maverick
[20:02] <sudokill> JoliPwnna, not sure whats going on there
[20:02] <n-iCe> vlt: there is a command to check gxl or something and it responds: YES if is installed
[20:03] <sudokill> JoliPwnna, you could try something then reboot-
[20:03] <sudokill> gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf
[20:03] <JoliPwnna> sudokill: i had to reboot the last 2 times this happened
[20:03] <JoliPwnna> i could still use this
[20:03] <sudokill> and add this line to the end: vm_swappiness=10
[20:03] <JoliPwnna> but i need to figure out what's causing this
[20:04] <Utopiah> DasEi: same problem it also calls the non-REAL version so it does nothing
[20:04] <Utopiah> I tried it before too
[20:04] <wamicho> hey anybody knows how to solve this sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) from the upgrading
[20:05] <n-iCe> vlt: glxinfo | grep rendering :)
[20:06] <cryoniccore> as far as I am getting, there is barely no support  for macbook pro 5-5
[20:06] <multimedia1> teste
[20:06] <cryoniccore> on audio that is
[20:06] <pcoder> Hi, I have Ubuntu intsalled on my VirtualBox and I lost my password to the root user. I can't access the grub at boottime either .. :( Any suggestions how I could set my password again??
[20:06] <japro> hmm, well at least the "new" kernel works
[20:06] <sudokill> cryoniccore, from what i read its some alsa bug or something, try reading the last page
[20:06] <japro> but i stell don't get any core temperatures -.-
[20:07] <sudokill> japro, afaik lm sensors dont work on everything
[20:07] <oCean> pcoder: there is no root password
[20:07] <JoliPwnna> wtf
[20:07] <oCean> JoliPwnna: control the language please
[20:07] <JoliPwnna> using this script -> http://northernmost.org/blog/find-out-what-is-using-your-swap/
[20:07] <pcoder> oCean: Thanks for the reply, How do I login as root??
[20:07] <JoliPwnna> the maximum swap usage is only 40mb
[20:08] <JoliPwnna> and yet 3.7/3.8 is filled
[20:08] <oCean> pcoder: you cannot.  I forgot the passwd to my only user :(, any suggestions to look into??
[20:08] <sudokill> japro, not afaik, is your cpu still throttling with the new kernel?
[20:08] <oCean> !password | pcoder
[20:09] <JoliPwnna> oCean: lol. it stands for what a terrible failure. http://t.co/3nNwM1b
[20:09] <japro> i can't tell yet
[20:09] <oCean> JoliPwnna: I wasn't joking
[20:09] <japro> guess Ill have to play minecraft wil running pi or something :D
[20:09] <JoliPwnna> oCean: this is pretty conclusive http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1557856/temporary/Screenshot-System%20Monitor.png
[20:09] <DasEi> cryoniccore: hwinfo  | grep amd (nvidia, gma, ati, AMD)
[20:09] <sudokill> japro, wait and see how it goes
[20:09] <oCean> JoliPwnna: type in a terminal: free
[20:09] <JoliPwnna> yeah
[20:10] <JoliPwnna> 100mb free from swap
[20:10] <japro> i'm trying to find a program that can max 2 cores quickly
[20:10] <JoliPwnna> i've done this a million times. lol
[20:10] <japro> pi apparently only uses one thread
[20:10] <JoliPwnna> 100032, if you so which
[20:10] <JoliPwnna> wish*
[20:10] <JoliPwnna> >.>
[20:10] <sudokill> japro, mprime
[20:10] <sudokill> kernel compile or any program with -j3
[20:11] <cryoniccore> DasEi, sudo: hwinfo: command not found
[20:11] <DasEi> japro: cpuburn (carefull) use as many instances as you've got cores
[20:11] <sudokill> havent used pi on linux i think i remember windows lets you use multi cores
[20:11] <DasEi> cryoniccore: sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[20:11] <TDJACR> Is there a way to contact Canonical regarding a launchpad issue other than rt? I emailed RT a while ago (months) multiple times, and never got a response
[20:12] <DasEi> Utopiah: which distro are you using ?
[20:12] <oCean> TDJACR: I'm not sure it's the appropriate channel, but there is a #launchpad channel..
[20:12] <Utopiah> natty 11.04
[20:13] <JoliPwnna> any command to free swap?
[20:13] <JoliPwnna> that's not sudo reboot?
[20:13] <sudokill> JoliPwnna, i thought you were tyring to find out whats causing it, not to free it?
[20:13] <sudokill> JoliPwnna, if i was you id do vm_swappiness=10 or 0
[20:13] <JoliPwnna> sudokill: well, if i can't figure out what's causing it...
[20:13] <sudokill> that makes swap only use swap if it HAS to
[20:13] <rcmaehl> Can anyone recommend a good icon theme for ubuntu?
[20:13] <DasEi> Utopiah: I just installed and tried in lucid, service works here, ask again (just how to start), maybe #ubuntu-server, I will look up also
[20:14] <cryoniccore> DasEi, Ok I did it. Is there anything in particular u would like to know?
[20:14] <JoliPwnna> hm
[20:14] <oCean> sudokill: it's vm.swappiness
[20:14] <sudokill> i know i told him earlier
[20:14] <DasEi> cryoniccore: driver ?
[20:14] <oCean> sudokill: no vm-dot-swappiness, not underscore
[20:14] <sudokill> o yea
[20:14] <sudokill> lol
[20:15] <TSG>  I have a question, i have a few folders that appeared on my desktop that can be opened but not deleted or found in the file system. even in terminal it says the directory is not found..
[20:16] <japro> i just remembered that i have the intel stuff on the machine, so i'm trying to get linpack running for coolness factor :D
[20:16] <cryoniccore> DasEi, it says nvidia. But I thought that was my video. Not my audio?
[20:16] <sudokill> japro, or hotness
[20:16] <sudokill> :)
[20:16] <pcoder> oCean, ubottu: Thanks for your relevant help. Silly me, needed to keep on pressing SHIFT at the boot-time to get into grub :)
[20:16] <oCean> pcoder: right! :)
[20:19] <DasEi> cryoniccore: err, not the macuser with his graphics ?
[20:19] <TSG> its "Computer, "Trash", and "home"
[20:19] <TSG> even with gksudo nautilus and it says my desktop folder is empty in both root, and normal
[20:19] <TSG> anyone have any ideas? using natty (gnome-shell)
[20:19] <TDJACR> oCean: No response, thought I'd give this a try :P
[20:19] <Utopiah> (asking there)
[20:20] <DasEi> Utopiah: from what I see it's still upstart, so a sudo service lihttpd start should do
[20:20] <DasEi> !audio | cryoniccore
[20:22] <Utopiah> DasEi: yes it should but it doesn't http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=TJ6Y0Xw4
[20:22] <DasEi> cryoniccore: btw sudo hwinfo | grep Audio (I'm tired and be off soon, sry for messing )
[20:24] <DasEi> Utopiah: prefix with sudo, and it's not configured yet (but should start)
[20:25] <Utopiah> Im already root, I tried anyway and failed the same way
[20:26] <DasEi> Utopiah: right, long hostname, idk then and I'm tird, sry
[20:26] <DasEi> tired, lol
[20:26] <Utopiah> np, thanks for trying
[20:28] <update> i just downloaded swish-e for ubuntu from my terminal how do i locate what file it was downloaded to?
[20:28] <sudokill> whatever dir your in
[20:29] <sudokill> do you mean you used wget?
[20:29] <catphish> is it possible to forcefully remove a package without executing its scripts?
[20:30] <chasevoid> hi
[20:30] <update> how do i view recent downloads in terminal?
[20:30] <sudokill> press the up arrow
[20:30] <sudokill> to view recent commands you typed
[20:31] <digitalcrow> i've tested ubuntu today
[20:32] <cryoniccore> sudo: aptitude: command not found
[20:32] <cryoniccore> ???
[20:32] <sudokill> cryoniccore, why aptitude
[20:32] <cryoniccore> sudokill, sudo aptitude reinstall linux-headers-2.6.28-13-generic linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-13-generic
[20:32] <digitalcrow> and it was slow and applications were freezing all the time , specifically transmission always stuck when i tried to download torrents frozen stuck and nothing more!
[20:33] <digitalcrow> ubuntu is so heavy bloated and SLOW it sucks
[20:33] <sudokill> digitalcrow, unlucky
[20:33] <digitalcrow> and i have 4gb ram , 3++ghz dual core
[20:33] <cryoniccore> sudokill, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7627817&postcount=98
[20:33] <sudokill> let me guess windows tears on it
[20:33] <Utopiah> digitalcrow: I have 1Ghz and 0.5Ghz and its fast
[20:33] <oCean> digitalcrow: did you just came here to rant?
[20:33] <digitalcrow> yes
[20:33] <ajay> lol
[20:33] <stercor> digitalcrow: Why don't you switch to OpenBSD?
[20:34] <oCean> digitalcrow: please stop then
[20:34] <sudokill> cryoniccore, theyre for old kernel
[20:34] <Drammer> Net Bsd is the best
[20:34] <Drammer> or free BSD
[20:34] <barbarella> @update History maybe!!!
[20:34] <Drammer> OpenBsd is sucks
[20:34] <sudokill> bsd is slow
[20:34] <FloodBot1> Drammer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:34] <Scribbled2x> -Soreau dont suppose you might be around
[20:34] <stercor> Can the bot be programmed to catch the word suck?
[20:34] <digitalcrow> but i was in luck i have lubuntu installed now and everything is perfect
[20:35] <stercor> Actually, suck*
[20:35] <Drammer> lol
[20:35] <IdleOne> stercor: to what end?
[20:35]  * Drammer Slap FloodBot2 (Next time dont do it ok?)
[20:35] <barbarella> sudokill: and a little iphone ;-)
[20:36] <sudokill> :s
[20:36] <stercor> IdleOne: Because ``suck'' is a neologism used to cover fuzzy thinking.  Also, its origin is suspect.
[20:36] <oCean> Drammer: then don't flood
[20:36] <ChaseVoid> ...
[20:36] <Utopiah> but then people couldn't talk about http://suckless.org
[20:36] <IdleOne> !ot
[20:37] <Scribbled2x> I would like to build a project on a self contained CD - I would like it to run from a ramdisk and work in a similar fashion as the Sentry Firewall CD - only i do not want to use it as a firewall.  Is there a single howto that talks about what might be the best way to go about this?
[20:37] <stercor> Um...I'm sure a regex could be written...
[20:37] <Drammer> i dont flood im just fast in keyboard
[20:37] <stercor> Anyway, this enough on the subject...
[20:37] <wamicho> hey what is the meaning of this  sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:38] <wamicho> hey what is the meaning of this  sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:38] <stercor> Drammer: Count to 10 before hitting the Enter key>
[20:38] <japro> sudokill, seems ok, still no turbo boost though
[20:38] <sudokill> japro, no idea why turbo boost isnt working
[20:38] <sudokill> but at least it works good now :)
[20:38] <digitalcrow> come on people does anyone feels happy with the speed of ubuntu ?
[20:39] <oCean> digitalcrow: drop the discussion please
[20:39] <brian> #propel
[20:39] <digitalcrow> ubuntu is slow on my pc why is that ?
[20:39] <oCean> digitalcrow: last time. Stop
[20:39] <Drammer> which ubuntu you have ?
[20:39] <sudokill> digital i think its just an 11.04 thing
[20:39] <phux> digitalcrow: because your pc is slow
[20:39] <stercor> Utopiah: I visited the site.  It uses the word in the same sense.
[20:39] <wamicho> hey what is the meaning of this  sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:39] <sudokill> 11.04 is the slowest yet ive heard
[20:39] <oCean> stercor: drop it already and move on
[20:40] <sudokill> digitalcrow, but lxde will always be faster than a lot of des anyway
[20:40] <stercor> oCean: Yep.
[20:40] <sudokill> so you definately wont see any improvement
[20:40] <Drammer> what are you using SEDO ?
[20:41] <digitalcrow> my pc is slow? 3+ghz dual core intel with 4gbytes ram?
[20:41] <qin> Drammer: sedo?
[20:41] <sudokill> digitalcrow, your comp isnt slow
[20:41] <Drammer> i mean sudo lol
[20:41] <stercor> Does anyone know about/have experience with picokernels?
[20:41] <sudokill> just saying it might just feel slow compared to lxde
[20:42] <sparkiez> happy fourth everyone!
[20:42] <digitalcrow> nope , apps freezes (gray colored ) and then stops
[20:42] <Drammer> sudo dpkg -P kdm-kde4
[20:42] <qin> Drammer: Mostly to run programs form /sbin/ and /usr/sbin/
[20:42] <digitalcrow> transmission stop downloading freezes completely Forever
[20:42] <digitalcrow> firefox too
[20:42] <oCean> !who | Drammer
[20:42] <phux> ive got 2ghz intel dual, 2gig ram notebook for about 400$ and 11.04 runs just normally fast... im using arch+wmii and there is no big difference
[20:42] <sudokill> digitalcrow, no idea, could be anything, but thats not normal so i wouldnt blame it on ubuntu
[20:42] <phux> @ digitalcrow
[20:42] <wamicho> hey what is the meaning of this  "sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) "  i keep on getting it when i try to install or update my box
[20:43] <digitalcrow> then maybe its a problem of the disk? cause the disk access seems very slow on ubuntu
[20:43] <sudokill> i doubt it
[20:43] <sudokill> is it a fresh clean install?
[20:43] <astraljava> wamicho: Some package fails to install. Could you please be more elaborate? pastebin what you are doing, it's totally impossible to tell without knowing what's going on.
[20:44] <digitalcrow> when you click the firefox icon on the unity dock how much time it takes to open ?
[20:44] <sudokill> i dont use ff
[20:44] <sudokill> but when i did, half a second
[20:44] <japro> sudokill, ok apparently the freq readings in cpuinfo are not correct when it comes to turbo boost
[20:44] <digitalcrow> really?
[20:44] <phux> digitalcrow: not 1 second
[20:44] <sudokill> digitalcrow, try it in classic mode a lot of people report it being much much faster
[20:44] <phux> but this depends on plugins
[20:44] <japro> also linpack is obviously a bad example to test turbo boost when you compile it as mpi version (full load on all cores)
[20:45] <sudokill> japro, yea turbo only works for maxing 1 core
[20:45] <barbarella> @wamicho listen to astraljava to short...we need more than that
[20:45] <lacrymology> is there anything special I need to do to config postgresql in ubuntu?
[20:45] <sudokill> japro, i turned turbo off but only because i oc
[20:45] <japro> just ran a single core bench and ended up with ~13 gflops single precision
[20:45] <japro> which is pretty much exactely the expected 4sse floats * 3.33ghz