[14:45] <eoli3n> Hi
[14:45] <eoli3n> i want to enable dhcp on all interface
[14:45] <eoli3n> if i understood well, i can not specify anything, just the renderer and it will act like this by default
[14:45] <eoli3n> ?


[09:02] <mdke> cjohnston: now
[14:52] <cjohnston> mdke: I have a feeling we are going to keep playing this game..
[20:15] <AdamDV> Whats the deal with ubuntu.com? Wasn't it supposed to be re-branded?
[20:47] <stas> AdamDV: nope, it wasn't possible to rebrand cause of amount of work with lts
[20:48] <AdamDV> So, next release?
[20:53] <stas> I don't know.


[09:45] <AnAnt> hello, I have setup bind9 as caching name server, but I need it to lookup the domain xyz.com via a certain name server , how to do that ?
[10:22] <DrSpin> Can anyone tell me if the default PHP5 packages in 6.10 Server include PDO ?
[10:45] <DrSpin> The answer to my question is no... Any chance at getting a PHP5-PDO package in the next release?
[10:46] <DrSpin> And perhaps breaking Pear and PECL into seperate packages?
[06:10] <phaidros> hi, is there an edgy-xen-verserver kernel image avail ?
[12:04] <phaidros> hi


[12:58] <pochu> So it seems gentoo isn't registered as distro
[12:58] <pochu> Is it possible to register it so I can link to a gentoo bug report?
[12:58] <pochu> I don't think I'm the best person to do it, maybe a LP admin :)
[01:13] <pochu> SteveA: ^
[01:15] <gnomefreak> is there an issue with LP mail?
[01:18] <gnomefreak> ive gotten maybe 100 (first time checked in 2 days) they say "This is the Postfix program at host baal.visi.com."
[01:19] <gnomefreak> it seems to be the user as i look into it more
[02:53] <bluefoxicy> quick question, launchpad ever actually going open source?
[03:59] <DarkMageZ> hi, there's an issue with bug #74252. some mail server keeps on replying to it saying message is undeliverable. causing a loop. (luckily launchpad isn't fast @ sending the new "comment" back)
[03:59] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 74252 in firefox "[EDGY]  firefox crashed [@gtk_style_realize]  [@IA__gtk_style_attach]  (dup-of: 72018)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/74252 - Assigned to Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)
[03:59] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018 - Assigned to Alexander Sack (asac)
[05:31] <thumper> bluefoxicy: some day
[05:31] <bluefoxicy> thumper:  within my lifetime?
[07:23] <DarkMageZ> can someone please check out the spam on bug #74252
[07:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 74252 in firefox "[EDGY]  firefox crashed [@gtk_style_realize]  [@IA__gtk_style_attach]  (dup-of: 72018)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/74252 - Assigned to Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)
[07:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018 - Assigned to Alexander Sack (asac)
[07:31] <crimsun> DarkMageZ: it's the weekend.  Please be patient.
[08:05] <thumper> bluefoxicy: depends, how close to death are you?
[08:13] <bluefoxicy> thumper:  i'm 21 years away from birth; I don't know how close to death I am, from a quantum physics point of view it hasn't been proven that I can actually die.
[08:25] <DarkMageZ> it's a small matter of being sent 140+ emails to each subscriber and the number is getting higher...
[09:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018 - Assigned to Alexander Sack (asac)
[09:50] <ssam> Bug #74252 has gone mad, endless auto replies
[09:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 74252 in firefox "[EDGY]  firefox crashed [@gtk_style_realize]  [@IA__gtk_style_attach]  (dup-of: 72018)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/74252 - Assigned to Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)
[09:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018 - Assigned to Alexander Sack (asac)
[09:51] <DarkMageZ> yeah, isn't it great?
[09:52] <ssam> is there noone around with magical launchpad powers?
[09:53] <DarkMageZ> thumper, can you stop the crap which is happening with bug 74252? i'm counting 185+ spam emails to each subscriber of it's master bug.
[10:12] <sits> Help! My inbox is being crushed by launchpad bug mail...
[10:12] <Webspot> same
[10:12] <sits> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/74252
[10:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 74252 in firefox "[EDGY]  firefox crashed [@gtk_style_realize]  [@IA__gtk_style_attach] " [Undecided,Needs info]   - Assigned to Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)
[10:12] <Webspot> I was about to say
[10:12] <sits> I've unduped the bug to try and reduce to collateral damage
[10:12] <Webspot> good
[10:13] <sits> I can't find the username of email address that has disappeared
[10:13] <sits> I'm also about to file a bug on this problem too
[10:17] <sits> https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/114384
[10:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114384 in malone "Dead email accounts cause launchpad to mailbomb and crush subscriber inboxes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[10:20] <elmo> I've redirected mail to that bug temporarily, which should solve the immediately problem
[10:20] <elmo> unfortunately I have to get on a plane now, so I can't do anything more
[10:20] <sits> elmo: thank you
[10:21] <DarkMageZ> if launchpad was quicker at sending emails out then this would be a much more crippling issue. over the last 12 hours it has only managed to cause 190+ trash emails to all subscribers of 72018.
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #114384 in malone "Dead email accounts cause launchpad to mailbomb and crush subscriber inboxes" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114384
[10:27] <sits> DarkMageZ: thanks for the confirm
[10:34] <DarkMageZ> sits, no problem. i've been trying to bring the issue to their attention for over 3 hours
[10:36] <sits> why did you resubscribe it to 72018?
[10:37] <DarkMageZ> reduplicate it to? because once this is all over. it's likely that people will forget to redupe it
[10:38] <sits> ok
[10:44] <sits> it's overlong, unfinished and unfocused at the moment but it might be useful as an "outsider" view
[10:45] <DarkMageZ> i can just imagine how shitty all those subscribers are going to be
[10:50] <sits> DarkMageZ: I'm trying not to think about it
[10:51] <sits> DarkMageZ: 72018 was a firestorm of "why am I getting the email" grief as it was
[10:51] <Fujitsu> It's not really LP's fault, but stuff could have been done to prevent it.
[10:51] <sits> s/the/this
[10:51] <DarkMageZ> launchpad did what it was coded to do
[10:53] <sits> Fujitsu: Hindsight is a wonderful thing
[10:53] <Fujitsu> sits: This isn't the first time it has happened.
[10:53] <sits> Fujitsu: now that I didn't know
[10:53] <Fujitsu> Probably the worst instance of it, though.
[10:54] <sits> I think if bugs are getting over 20 subscribers they need special handling to reduce the fallout of "accidents"
[10:55] <DarkMageZ> there are 2 proper ways on handling this. first would be to implement abnormality detection. so if something other than the norm is happening, then an email is sent to the admins to sort.
[10:55] <DarkMageZ> second would to be to set some sort of limiting on the comments from an individual
[10:55] <sits> what's abnormal though
[10:55] <sits> ?
[10:55] <Fujitsu> Having more people than just admins being able to unsubscribe people might be useful. Or having an admin around all the time.
[10:56] <sits> Fujitsu: by the time an admin knows it might be too late
[10:56] <DarkMageZ> the abnormal part of this was the amount of comments by one user, one after the other :P
[10:56] <sits> I'm only here because someone was complaining within the bug itself
[10:57] <Fujitsu> Hm....... Shouldn't the NDR be coming from postmaster@somedomain, so not from a registered address?
[10:57] <DarkMageZ> i tried to alert the people in #ubuntu-bugs about 6 hours ago.
[10:57] <Fujitsu> DarkMageZ: They can't do anything.
[10:57] <DarkMageZ> i forgot about this channel
[10:57] <sits> I wouldn't have known where to go
[10:57] <DarkMageZ> they can't do anything, but they know where to point & poke
[10:58] <Fujitsu> Only the LP admins can control this.
[10:58] <Fujitsu> Well, possibly.
[10:58] <sits> about the best I would have done was unduping that bug and then a new malone bug would have been filed
[10:58] <Fujitsu> Everybody is leaving UDS at the moment, so it's a particularly bad time.
[10:58] <sits> UDS?
[10:58] <DarkMageZ> ubuntu developers summit
[10:58] <sits> ok
[10:59] <DarkMageZ> the problem with the internet is stuff can go bad at any time. so like you said before. there should always be someone around to sort stuff out.
[11:00] <Fujitsu> Giving drivers of a project that ability to unsubscribe someone might be nice.
[11:00] <sits> hmm
[11:00] <sits> anyone can subscribe anyone else
[11:00] <sits> but unsubscribing is not so liberal
[11:00] <Fujitsu> But those NDRs should never have got to the bug, unless the mailserver is really badly configured.
[11:01] <Fujitsu> postmaster@somedomain shouldn't be associated with a LP account, so Malone shouldn't accept the email.
[11:01] <sits> well I thought bounces were distinct from regular mail
[11:01] <sits> Fujitsu: I see what you mean
[11:02] <Fujitsu> They are normal messages.
[11:02] <sits> what about the holiday mail bounces though?
[11:02] <Fujitsu> Those are always going to happen, because they are indistinguishable from normal emails.
[11:03] <sits> the question is - can you stop a loop from happening due to poorly configured servers?
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #114394 in launchpad "the "Show all teams" link opens "all projects" instead of all the teams" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114394
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #114414 in launchpad "The latest questions asked shoud only show questions in preferred languages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114414
[03:26] <ubotu> New bug: #114420 in launchpad "Unable to find bug report even when the path is given" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114420
[04:58] <DoctorOwl> Does anyone still think Launchpad should be free and open source?
[05:18] <DoctorOwl> Does anyone here help create Launchpad?
[05:24] <DoctorOwl> Ok let me try another tack, are any big-name projects hosted on Launchpad besides Ubuntu?
[06:03] <wingo-pb> hi all.
[06:03] <wingo-pb> anyone know how often launchpad does mirroring of off-site bzr branches?
[06:04] <wingo-pb> i have a project that had changes three days ago and the launchpad mirror hasn't updated
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #114453 in malone "Typo on "Add affected source package to bug" page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114453
[07:45] <Odd_Bloke> Guys, I'm getting a lot of "bzr: ERROR: paramiko.SSHException: Server connection dropped:" due to a connection reset by peer.
[07:52] <Odd_Bloke> Is this something at the Launchpad end or something at my end?
[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #114474 in launchpad "Bad Link from crash of artsd on feisty fawn" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114474
[09:06] <GatoLoko> hi
[09:07] <ondrej> hi, is there a way to block certain user to add comments (or I should rather say flames) to bug?  We have certain user who was dismissed from l10n team recently and he is constantly adding non-constructive comments to all kinds of bug reports and unfortunately it's spamming all members of czech translation team.
[11:35] <thumper> morning
[11:48] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!


[00:46] <Cookiepig> hey guys
[00:47] <Cookiepig> this the channel where we ask about installing ubuntu?
[01:58] <ago> cjwatson, evand, the option creating issues in update-initramfs was "group_id=0"
[11:03] <xivulon> Have filed bug #187282 anyway, the option triggering the failure was "group_id" by the way
[11:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 187282 in wubi "update-initramfs -u fails with "WARNING: /boot is ro mounted." even if /boot is rw" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187282
[11:15] <xivulon> evand, cjwatson, re #175772 unlike stated in the email, I think that the fix simply involves removing the line:
[11:15] <xivulon> if [ -f "$loop_file" ]; then
[11:15] <xivulon> from update-grub
[11:16]  * xivulon thinks a bug comment would be better
[11:25] <xivulon> evand, cjwatson, ignore my yesterday emails and look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/175772/comments/6
[11:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 175772 in wubi "Update-grub does not set kopt correctly in loopinstallations" [Medium,In progress]
[11:26] <xivulon> was far too late yesterday...
[13:26] <xivulon> I have noticed that update grub defaults to /dev/hda1 if it cannot find a root_device.
[13:26] <xivulon> Shouldn't that be /dev/sda1 which seems to be far more common these days?
[13:37] <cjwatson> that case should be considered a bug if it ever occurs so I think it's fine to leave it as it is
[13:46] <evand> cjwatson: do you think it's inappropriate to upload a patched version of sysvinit today, or should I wait until Friday?  I've tested it and found no issues, the code also looks ok as far as I can tell.
[13:49] <evand> ick, I could've worded that better.
[13:50] <cjwatson> evand: are you aiming to get the whole of wubi into alpha 4?
[13:52] <evand> ideally
[13:52] <evand> but I wholly acknowledge it may be too late for that.
[13:53] <xivulon> that would be nice :P
[13:54] <xivulon> patch to 175772 is trivial (see last comment)
[13:54] <xivulon> patch to umountfs is a bit more invasive but should be ok
[13:56] <xivulon> for ref last comment in 151579
[14:02] <cjwatson> evand: if so, then it's appropriate; if not, it should wait
[14:03] <cjwatson> evand: if so, of course, then you have a matter of hours
[14:04] <evand> can you clarify, if what is so?
[14:04] <evand> cjwatson: ^
[14:06] <cjwatson> if you are aiming to get wubi support in alpha 4
[14:06] <evand> ok, thanks for the advice.
[15:00] <CIA-23> partman-target: evand * r694 partman-target.ubuntu/ (commit.d/clear_partitions debian/changelog):
[15:00] <CIA-23> partman-target: * Rework clear_partitions to not try to remove active mountpoints (LP:
[15:00] <CIA-23> partman-target:  #186711).
[15:03] <cjwatson> oh good, I was about to ask you about that
[15:04] <evand> I finished that yesterday, but I woke up this morning to a VM missing /boot and I'm trying to determine now if clear_partitions is the cluprit.
[17:36] <CIA-23> ubiquity: evand * r2424 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py):
[17:36] <CIA-23> ubiquity: * Add new nautilus gconf keys to the list we temporarily disable to
[17:36] <CIA-23> ubiquity:  prevent constant pop-ups.
[17:45] <CIA-23> partman-target: evand * r695 partman-target.ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 52ubuntu3
[17:46] <evand> looks good as far as I can tell (I tested several different partition table configurations with it present)
[17:47] <evand> so my missing /boot was probably me canceling an install after it ran but before the grub-install component had a chance to run
[17:47] <evand> and forgetting about it
[20:25] <CIA-23> ubiquity: evand * r2425 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[20:25] <CIA-23> ubiquity: * Automatic update of included source packages: console-setup
[20:25] <CIA-23> ubiquity:  1.21ubuntu2, migration-assistant 0.6.0, partman-target 52ubuntu3,
[20:25] <CIA-23> ubiquity:  user-setup 1.16ubuntu3.
[20:29] <CIA-23> ubiquity: evand * r2426 ubiquity/ (aclocal.m4 configure configure.ac): Bump to 1.7.5
[20:31] <CIA-23> ubiquity: evand * r2427 ubiquity/debian/po/ (79 files): debconf-updatepo
[20:36] <CIA-23> ubiquity: evand * r2428 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.7.5
[20:46] <cr3> how can I seed variables from the command line?
[20:47] <evand> cr3: debconf-communicate
[20:47] <evand> echo "SET passwd/username evan" | debconf-communicate
[20:48] <cr3> evand: thanks man!
[20:48] <evand> cr3: anytime
[20:48] <cr3> evand: now lets see if my package works :)
[20:48] <evand> heh
[20:50] <cr3> evand: I'm getting: 10 hwtest-verify/plugins/exchange_prompt/secure_id doesn't exist
[20:50] <evand> is it in the templates file of your package?
[20:51] <cr3> evand: yes, but the package is not installed yet
[20:52] <cr3> evand: basically, I want to set the variable and then try dpkg installing it
[20:53] <evand> to avoid the question being asked?
[20:54] <cr3> evand: yep, and also to test that the variable is being substituted properly. this is ultimately meant to go in the preseed of a network install, so I want to test on the command line because the install takes forever :)
[20:55] <evand> ah, then I should've pointed you at debconf-set-selections instead
[20:55] <evand> it takes the same format as a preseed file
[20:56] <cr3> thanks, I'll try that
[20:56] <evand> so echo "d-i foo/bar string barish" | debconf-set-selections
[20:56] <evand> you're welcome
[20:56] <cr3> evand: that's even more perfect, I get to test the exact line from my preseed file
[21:06] <cr3> evand: worked on the command line, now to figure out why it doesn't work during the installation
[21:06] <evand> because the database is locked by the install process
[21:07] <evand> you can only modify questions as part of a component of the install (sourcing confmodule and using db_set)
[21:07] <evand> oh, perhaps I misread
[21:07] <cr3> evand: I'm not quite sure I understand
[21:08] <evand> I think I misread, you are doing this as part of a udeb and you're saying that it's not working within that context, right?
[21:08] <evand> I thought you were saying using debconf-set-selections wasn't working while the install was running.
[21:09] <cr3> evand: right, so I'm netinstalling and using a preseed which has worked well for me so far. now, I added this line to pressed a package:
[21:09] <cr3> d-i hwtest-verify/plugins/exchange_prompt/secure_id string $secure_id
[21:09] <cr3> (where $secure_id gets substituted at some point, don't worry about it :)
[21:09] <evand> haha that scared me for a moment
[21:09] <cr3> then, I install the extra packages I need with this line:
[21:10] <cr3> d-i preseed/late_command string apt-install hwtest-server-cli
[21:11] <evand> shouldn't that be pkgsel/include hwtest-server-ci?
[21:11] <evand> errm wait no
[21:12] <cr3> evand: in the sample preseed file, I see two ways: pkgsel/include and preseed/late_command. the former is used to install openssh-server in the sample and the latter to install zsh.
[21:13] <evand> is hwtest-server-cli a udeb?
[21:15] <cjwatson> pkgsel/include is preferred if you can
[21:15] <cjwatson> the latter is an example in case you need to do more complicated stuff
[21:25] <evand> cjwatson: did you get my PM from earlier today?
[22:25] <cr3> evand: no, hwtest-server-cli is not a udeb, does it need to be?
[22:26] <evand> no, I was curious as if it was a component of the install process the way you installed it would be different.
[22:32] <cr3> evand: does the install log get stored somewhere so that I can review after the installation whether the variable was indeed preseeded?
[22:32] <evand>  /var/log/installer
[22:42] <matttp> cjwatson: You around?
[22:54] <cr3> evand: I didn't find anything interesting relating to preseeding my variables in /var/log/installer, and I do have DEBCONF_DEBUG=5 in my kernel parameters
[22:58] <evand> cr3: hrm, I suppose you could copy the database out as part of late_command.  cjwatson might know of a more elegant solution than that.
[22:58] <cr3> evand: it's getting late, and even later for cjwatson. I'll try again tomorrow at a more reasonable time. thanks for all the help dude!
[22:58] <evand> yeah, I just noticed the time :)
[22:59] <evand> anytime, goodnight


[00:05] <LINKSWORD2> Is it safe for me to upgrade to the new Amarok that's in Kubuntu 12.03?
[00:06] <LINKSWORD2> !Lucid
[00:15] <LINKSWORD2> What are the system requirements to install Kubuntu 11.10 or 12.03 Beta?
[00:15] <LINKSWORD2> !11.10
[00:17] <szal> there is no such thing as 12.03
[00:17] <szal> !precise | LINKSWORD2
[00:17] <szal> mind the 2nd sentence
[00:18] <LINKSWORD2> I've been told that 12.03 is the designation for 12.04 as a beta, before the official release.
[00:18] <LINKSWORD2> If not, then what are the system requirements for 12.04?
[00:18] <szal> by whom?
[00:19] <LINKSWORD2> I don't remember. It was last night. Late.
[00:22] <LINKSWORD2> Either way, I would like to know the system requirements for running 11.10, or even 12's Beta.
[00:31] <LINKSWORD2> Ugh.... I haven't been on in so long really, that I don't even remember how to upgrade...
[00:31] <LINKSWORD2> !upgrade
[00:37] <LINKSWORD2> OK guys, wake up! I'm attempting to check for software updates on Lucid, and the window is coming back blank.
[00:37] <LINKSWORD2> !Lucid upgrade
[00:39] <LINKSWORD2> HEY! HELP
[00:40] <szal> what window?
[00:40] <LINKSWORD2> The software update window in KPackageKit
[00:40] <szal> PackageKit.. *urgh*
[00:41] <LINKSWORD2> Well, excuse me for having a busy life... >.>
[00:41] <szal> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:41] <LINKSWORD2> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[00:42] <szal> then there are no updates (unless your machine is misconfigured and doesn't get current package lists, which would be indicated by 'apt-get update' throwing errors)
[00:42] <emmanuel_> some body speak spanish
[00:43] <szal> !es | emmanuel_
[00:44] <LINKSWORD2> There we go. KPackageKit was configured to only look for LTS's. Changed it. Upgrading.
[00:44] <excognac> wow, wine is amazing. as chaotic as windows err or the software is
[00:45] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[00:45] <LINKSWORD2> Need to exit. Bye.
[00:45] <excognac> bye
[01:13] <c_smith> Hey, I'm trying to get my Ipod to work with Amarok, and I found a guide in which I need to edit a file to include A. the serial I got from lsusb, and a number called ModelNumStr which I also get from lsusb, but I see two similar numbers in the ID, and need help differentiating which would be the modelnumstr.
[01:19] <amason> c_smith: can you pastebin those examples
[01:19] <amason> not that i have an ipod but it might be able to help
[01:21] <c_smith> the only one is the 2 part code, 05ac:1265, and the  file only allows for 4 of those numbers, I need to know which is the model number per se.
[01:21] <c_smith> in lsusb, those numbers are listed under ID.
[01:22] <c_smith> those numbers seem to be pretty universal for USB devices.
[01:22] <c_smith> albeit different, my android tablet has something like that.
[01:25] <amason> erm udevinfo might be able to give you the model number
[01:25] <amason> or lsusb -v
[01:26] <c_smith> kk
[01:26] <c_smith> not sure how to access udevinfo, is it a file?
[01:29] <c_smith> after googling udevinfo, looks like Ubuntu uses udevadm.
[01:30] <amason> that's right, usbadm info
[01:30] <amason> but yeh lsusb  should be fine
[01:31] <c_smith> kk
[01:32] <chuy> hi all which folders should I copy to skel,for keep my kde4 config, for new users
[01:34] <c_smith> amason, after looking at udevadm, I was able to find the number, thanks. :)
[01:35] <chuy> any help o clue i really apreciate
[03:11] <c_smith> how do I connect to a smb share on Kubuntu Oneiric Ocelot?
[03:14] <c_smith> nvm, figured it out.
[03:17] <jalcine_> :)
[03:34] <dj_segfault> Hey. I just tried kubuntu 11.04 from live CD (because I can't stand Unity/Gnome 2).  I was very impressed.  How different in look and feel is the new version coming out next month?
[03:35] <bazhang> dj_segfault, the latest is 11.10
[03:36] <bazhang> dj_segfault, you should try a daily to see
[03:36] <dj_segfault> Yup.  I found that out after I burned the 11.04 disk ;)
[03:38] <dj_segfault> I'll look on the website for the dailies.  I just wanted to know if the look and feel was significantly different.
[03:40] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 should have a link
[03:41] <bazhang> or the /topic here
[03:41] <bazhang> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PrecisePangolin/Beta1/Kubuntu
[03:47] <jalcine> Just placed a order on http://gearwear.spreadshirt.com/kde-magic-A6572380
[03:47] <jalcine> Why isn't this site advertised more often?
[03:50] <bazhang> jalcine, is this related to kubuntu support?
[03:50] <jalcine> *wrong channel*
[03:50] <jalcine> sorry bazhang
[05:18] <opposablethumb> oppos
[10:26] <ralf_> hi, i've got a question
[10:27] <ralf_> i use text to speech a lot for system notifications and such
[10:27] <ralf_> the thing is I have installed some third party voices (Cepstral) and I would like to use those instead of espeak
[10:28] <ralf_> so I want to add a talker but I can't figure out the dialog
[10:28] <ralf_> and the documentation i find seems to describe a different dialog
[10:28] <ralf_> any help?
[10:31] <Peace-> ralf_: ask to the 3 party developer
[11:21] <DrTeeth> z
[11:26] <Highflyer> How to change default desktop environment? Just installed kde and choose it as default de. Now it's complicate for other users to log in their sessions. They can do it only through my session. Please help!
[11:29] <Highflyer> Anyone?
[11:29] <Highflyer> I use 11.10 Oneiric
[11:33] <Riddell> Highflyer|: that's a setting of your login manager
[11:34] <Highflyer|> How to change it?
[11:36] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:37] <monkeyjuice> morning
[11:38] <BluesKaj> 'morning monkeyjuice
[11:40] <BluesKaj> oh It's you , the dog rudy's pal
[11:40] <monkeyjuice> yep
[14:20] <Highflyer> How to change default desktop environment? Just installed kde and choose it as default de. Now it's complicate for other users to log in their sessions. They can do it only through my session. Please help!
[14:20] <Highflyer> I use 11.10 Oneiric
[14:23] <Highflyer> Anyone?
[14:31] <BluesKaj> Highflyer,  other users need to make kde default as well
[14:32] <Highflyer> Tnx but how? Terminal or...?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> Highflyer,  not sure , I have no experience with that ...I'll try to find an anwer ASAP
[14:34] <Highflyer> Thanks man!
[14:36] <BluesKaj> Highflyer,  you could ask in #kde ...I already asked , but not receiving any answers
[14:38] <genii-around> Highflyer: Usually you would select which de to load from the window manager logon.
[14:41] <BluesKaj> genii-around,  I think he wants an automatic selection at login
[14:42] <Highflyer> I know but theres no option for other users to log in. they need to log in to my account, than change user...
[14:42] <BluesKaj> genii-around, tell the other users to install kubuntu-desktop ?
[14:44] <BluesKaj> Highflyer,  they should have the choice of their own login
[14:45] <BluesKaj> as other users
[14:45] <Highflyer> That would be two more kde installation on one PC. Sure?
[14:47] <Highflyer> I now, but I have kubuntu log in screen with just my name
[14:47] <BluesKaj> not sure at all ...do the other users ale=ways have to use your login
[14:47] <BluesKaj> ?
[14:48] <Highflyer> Since I installed kubuntu, yes
[14:48] <BluesKaj> you can add other users in system settings>user management
[14:49] <Highflyer> My log in, than they can do change user
[14:50] <Highflyer> To add them again, now in kubuntu?
[14:50] <Highflyer> I'll try
[14:51] <BluesKaj> look in user management to see if they are still there
[14:51] <Highflyer> They are just in gnome
[14:51] <Highflyer> I'll add them in kubuntu
[14:52] <BluesKaj> Highflyer,  right
[14:52] <Highflyer> I think that solution could do the job
[14:52] <Highflyer> Tnx
[15:01] <iskendar> How do I get bash scripts to launch from the KDE menu with all the environment variables set correctly?
[15:02] <iskendar> I run the script from a terminal, no problem
[15:02] <iskendar> I run it from the menu, or by clicking in a folder view or in dolphin, and it lacks the correct paths
[15:05] <iskendar> putting '/bin/bash /home/me/.bashrc; /home/me/myscript" in the 'Command' field of the KDE Menu Editor doesn't do it either
[15:07] <genii-around> iskendar: I think it would be /bin/bash --rcfile /home/me/.bashrc /home/me/myscript
[15:14] <iskendar> yeah, I thought that too, but it doesn't work
[15:15] <iskendar> the only thing working is basically dumping all of the needed environment variables into the launch scripts themselves
[15:16] <genii-around> iskendar: Have you tried under the Advanced tab in the menu editor to check off Run in Terminal ?
[15:19] <iskendar> yup, did it both ways
[15:20] <genii-around> odd
[15:21] <BluesKaj> iskendar,  what about startup&shutdown , add script ...I have to ask the obvious
[15:24] <iskendar> logout I tried, an actual reboot not, but I don't see how that would work, since this is all user stuff
[15:26] <genii-around> iskendar: Was your bashrc file edited?
[15:28] <genii-around> ( if so you might need to do: source /home/me/.bashrc to have the changes take effect )
[15:36] <iskendar> yes, added some variables, nothing more
[16:00] <Promethes> is there any cd ripper for kubuntu other than K3B and Dolphin?
[16:00] <Promethes> something like sound juicer for gnome?
[16:01] <Promethes> k3b is terrible when i need to modify track names and album properties and Dolphin is painfully slow
[16:05] <BluesKaj> Promethes,  cdrecord , if you don't mind the command line
[16:06] <genii-around> !info audex
[16:08] <Promethes> genii-around: thanx
[16:10] <BluesKaj> yeah, genii-around , thanks ..didn't know about audex :)
[17:05] <cire> Hi, I get the following error when launching amarok: QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
[17:05] <cire> I cannot see the amarok window, but the process is running
[17:06] <BluesKaj> cire,  look in the system tray and click on the amarok icon
[17:07] <cire> BluesKaj: I would, but there is none
[17:07] <cire> I just recognized that every kde app gives me that error
[17:07] <cire> but they do show up
[17:07] <cire> dbus thing seems to be a general problem, amarok a special one
[17:10] <BluesKaj> cire , so haow do you close amarok ?
[17:10] <BluesKaj> how
[17:10] <cire> kill
[17:10] <cire> BluesKaj: I am not a newbie
[17:11] <cire> oh, I should mention that I am using precise
[17:11] <cire> could be a beta issue
[17:11] <BluesKaj> did you try running from the terminal and checking for launch errors?
[17:11] <cire> BluesKaj: this gives me the posted error
[17:12] <cire> nothing else
[17:12] <cire> i just did a dist-upgrade, I will try reloading kde
[17:16] <cire> did not help
[17:16] <cire> still dbus error, and amarok not launching
[17:16] <BluesKaj> cire,  did you use dbus-launch ?
[17:16] <cire> no
[17:17] <cire> not manually, but dbus-launch is started
[17:17] <cire> /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager
[17:18] <BluesKaj> yeah , I get the same error with audex , but it launches anyway ( QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.)
[17:19] <BluesKaj> try just dbus-launch amarok , without /usr/bin path
[17:20] <cire> okay
[17:20] <cire> this works?!
[17:20] <cire> what si wrong?
[17:21] <BluesKaj> amarok's default path isn't /usr/bin maybe ...I don't use amarok myself
[17:22] <cire> BluesKaj: this would mean, dbus-path for all kde apps is set wrong somehow
[17:22] <sithlord48> amarok shows in /usr/bin on my system
[17:22] <DarthFrog> Yes, it's in /usr/bin.
[17:22] <cire> BluesKaj: As I understood, amarok doesn't find dbus, right?
[17:25] <cire> I have X11/Xsession.d/75dbus_dbus-launch:DBUSLAUNCH=/usr/bin/dbus-launch
[17:25] <cire> which is the correct path
[17:28] <genii-around> cire: Did it work previous to yesterday?
[17:28] <cire> no
[17:28] <cire> that means
[17:28] <cire> don't know
[17:28] <cire> yesterday I am sure it did not
[17:28] <FloodBotK1> cire: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:29] <genii-around> cire: Which Kubuntu version?
[17:29] <cire> precise
[17:29] <genii-around> cire: There was a major update to libdbus yesterday on 12.04
[17:30] <cire> ok. This may be the problem.
[17:31] <cire> I won't complain, using pre-releases always gives that kind of things ;) (used aptosid and debian testing&unstable before) :)
[17:33] <genii-around> cire: Also, the #ubuntu+1 channel doubles as the #kubuntu+1 channel ( for 12.04 issues, until it hits release )
[17:33] <cire> genii-around: thanks for that hint!
[18:43] <superfly> Upgraded to precise, now I'm left with no KDE and apparently broken packages
[18:43] <superfly> (on my phone atm)
[18:43] <superfly> Any pointers to figuring out what is broken?
[18:44] <genii-around> superfly: Please ask in #ubuntu+1 which is for 12.04
[18:44] <superfly> Grr... I was just directed here
[18:45]  * superfly goes to find help elsewhere
[21:00] <Guest6415> test
[21:00] <Guest6415> ping
[21:35] <highflyer> Guys, need a help. I want to reinstall kubuntu. How to do that? Thanks!
[21:35] <highflyer> oneiric 11.10
[21:36] <highflyer> Anyone?
[22:08] <markus_> Insert the CD and reboot?
[22:25] <Musaab> hey there everyone, does anyone how to make so i have a separate taskbar for each workspace?
[22:34] <Musaab> nevermind...found it
[23:00] <Jarli> How do I turn on intergrated mouse with VM VirtualBox windows 7 64 bit?
[23:39] <Minitux90> bonsoir tout le monde
[23:43] <Whiskey`Wonka> blarg
[23:43] <Whiskey`Wonka> is muon broken in 12.04??
[23:47] <Whiskey`Wonka> where does network-manager store its network configs? id like to move my existing ones from a old install to a new install
[23:48] <Jarli> Hi all


[00:12] <jledbetter> pleia2, Awesome!
[16:33] <pleia2> meeting in hour and a half
[18:04] <Cheri703> Who all is here for the meeting?
[18:04] <pleia2> o/

[18:04] <nigelb> o/
[18:05] <Cheri703> ok :)
[18:05] <akk> o/
[18:05] <Cheri703> #startmeeting
[18:05] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov  8 18:05:35 2011 UTC.  The chair is Cheri703. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[18:05] <Cheri703> Since pleia2 is busy, and she knows about some of the things that I'm not super knowledgeable about (at least the details), I'm going to start with what I can
[18:06] <Cheri703> #topic Career Days
[18:07] <Cheri703> hmm...not sure how to make that work properly, sorry, not used the meetbot before :/
[18:07] <pleia2> it's fine, it doesn't echo replies anymore
[18:08] <Cheri703> ah, ok
[18:08] <Cheri703> Sorry
[18:08] <Cheri703> Anyway, Updates on Career Days!
[18:08] <Cheri703> Jane Silber on Saturday!
[18:08] <nigelb> wow
[18:09] <Cheri703> Jane Silber will be presenting on "From Developer to CEO, a Career in Tech" on November 12 at 16:00 UTC
[18:09] <jledbetter> Awesome :)
[18:09] <Cheri703> We are very honored and grateful that she has offered to participated, I'm very excited to hear what she has to say.
[18:10] <Cheri703> I'm hoping we can get some people to put the word out on the various blogs and "pages" and everything else, so we can get some good participation.
[18:10] <Cheri703> I have let pretty much ALL ubuntu things slide in the past few weeks due to my work training, or I would have poked people sooner.
[18:10] <pleia2> first we need an official announcement on the list (and copied to blog)
[18:10] <Cheri703> Yes
[18:11] <Cheri703> I can make the announcement if you'd like?
[18:11] <pleia2> that'd be great
[18:11] <Cheri703> ok, I'll do that shortly
[18:12] <Cheri703> Do we have any more volunteers for presenting sessions?
[18:12] <pleia2> jledbetter is on the list as programmer
[18:12] <Cheri703> (perhaps we can include that in the posts)
[18:12] <Cheri703> Ah, yes, and akgraner
[18:13] <Cheri703> thank you pleia2, I forgot (sorry jledbetter!!)
[18:13] <jledbetter> It's all good :) Hopefully we get more folks too.
[18:14] <Cheri703> Yeah, definitely :)
[18:14] <Cheri703> Does anyone have any questions about Career days?
[18:15] <Cheri703> Ok, With that, I'll turn it over to pleia2 for our next topic...
[18:16] <Cheri703> #topic UDS Wrap-Up
[18:16] <pleia2> thanks Cheri703 :)
[18:17] <pleia2> so on Monday at UDS we had the Ubuntu Women session and fleshed out some immediate plans for this cycle
[18:17] <pleia2> want to finally finish the new wiki theme and get it put in, move forward on mentoring project stuff
[18:18] <pleia2> Susan Spencer suggested we make profiles for groups of women we wish to target for involvement so we can better write documentation to aim at these groups
[18:18] <pleia2> so groups like women who already use ubuntu but don't contribute, women who don't yet use ubuntu, etc
[18:19] <pleia2> I haven't gotten around to updating the blueprint, but basic notes from the session have been uploaded here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lyz/uds-p/community-p-ubuntu-women-project-goals
[18:19] <pleia2> I'll update the blueprint tonight
[18:19] <pleia2> on Tuesday at UDS we had an Ubuntu Women dinner at MichelleQ's place :)
[18:19] <pleia2> http://princessleia.com/images/journalpics/112011/uds-p-ubuntu_women_dinner.jpg
[18:20] <pleia2> was very fun and yummy, there were s'mores
[18:20] <pleia2> I think that's pretty much it as far as both UDS and our blueprint
[18:22] <jledbetter> pleia2, Thank you for updating the blueprint :)
[18:22] <Cheri703> #action pleia2 to update blueprint with UDS notes
[18:22] <meetingology> ACTION: pleia2 to update blueprint with UDS notes
[18:23] <Cheri703> #action Cheri703 to announce Jane's Career Days session on list
[18:23] <meetingology> ACTION: Cheri703 to announce Jane's Career Days session on list
[18:26] <Cheri703> #topic Announcements
[18:26] <Cheri703> I can announce that I should be a bit more active now, as my job training is *almost* done, and I will not be quite so dead to the world (though I'll be working a LOT)
[18:27] <pleia2> :)
[18:28] <pleia2> I think I'm done
[18:29] <jledbetter> And my activity is going to be all over the place. Moving from east to west coast. :D
[18:29] <pleia2> woohoo
[18:30] <Cheri703> yay jledbetter! :)
[18:30] <jledbetter> :)
[18:30] <Cheri703> Anything anyone needs to add?
[18:32] <Cheri703> ok, then I think we're done. :) Thanks everyone
[18:32] <Cheri703> #endmeeting
[18:32] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Nov  8 18:32:20 2011 UTC.
[18:32] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-women-project/2011/ubuntu-women-project.2011-11-08-18.05.moin.txt
[18:32] <pleia2> thanks for chairing!
[18:38] <jledbetter> +1 Thank you :)
[18:42] <MichelleQ> hhmwhat?  The ubuflu has struck my house.  :-/
[18:46] <Imifos> Hi, I guess the meeting is already over, right? :)
[18:48] <jledbetter> Imifos, Just finished.
[18:48] <Cheri703> yep, sorry, minutes are available at: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-women-project/2011/ubuntu-women-project.2011-11-08-18.05.moin.txt
[18:51] <Imifos> Ok, thanks, my fault. Have a nice evening!
[18:53] <Deindre> I'm very sorry, my PIdgin wasn't able to connect....
[18:54] <Deindre> I'll read minutes too :(
[21:04] <AlanBell> 700 members at the end of last month
[21:10] <maco> wowzers
[21:28] <AlanBell> forums people are really not keen on revealing their identity and it would be intrusive of me to try hard to find it