[07:52] <Blockcold> hello there
[07:52] <meowbuntu> LinuxGuy2009, i have used unetbooting and lik it but it does not allow me to put more than one os on the drive
[07:52] <Blockcold> any channel for cygwin ?
[07:52] <subham> hello every body I am having an issue can any body can tell me by providing me an information how to enable f11 key suport in ubuntu 9.10 on hp mini  i am having this issue it is not working .. any help would be of great help .. thanks in advance
[07:53] <praba> @@b2p1mp   geany is my favourite .. it supports almost all the scripts and languages
[07:53] <indus> subham, what do you mean f11 key support
[07:53] <d3lt40ne> does Opera PMS runs on Ubuntu?
[07:54] <subham> indus :: yes sir on hp mini 110
[07:55] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[07:55] <Zenker> ok sudo apt-get install installed 249 a again, i want 249b what do i need 2 do?
[07:56] <indus> subham, is the f11 key not working?
[07:56] <Losha> Zenker: what makes you so sure 249b is available in the repo?
[07:57] <Zenker> marcc__ how do i install blender 2.49b after the dl?
[07:57] <EvaLuaTe> Does anyone have an estimate on how long it will take after a kernel version has been "launched" for it to be available in ubuntu? I'm asking because I'm thinking of buying a SSD drive, and for it to maintain it's performance in time, the OS has to have TRIM support enabled. This TRIM support seems to only be available after kernel version 2.6.33.
[07:57] <subham> indus : yes it is not working on hp mini .. it works well on windows part ....
[07:57] <Zenker> idk, i just dl it from the blender site?
[07:57] <subham> indus : yes it is not working on hp mini .. it works well on windows part ....
[07:57] <indus> subham, are you trying to map the f11 key to some action
[07:58] <indus> subham, did you try keyboard shortcuts?
[07:59] <git__> EvaLuaTe, i'm thinking of getting SSD too
[07:59] <DarwinSurvivor> I can't find System->Administration->Services on my sister's laptop (9.04), did it get renamed/moved to something else?
[08:00] <subham> indus :: sorry i am not getting you  on this question well i tried with other opention such as ctrl +q ,alt +f4.... etc all this are working but f11 is not working as an short cut key
[08:02] <akshay> how to modify grub.conf
[08:02] <indus> subham, ok
[08:02] <akshay> how to modify grub.conf
[08:02] <indus> subham, which keyboard sis this
[08:02] <indus> subham, try changing keyboard type from preferences>keyboard
[08:03] <akshay>  how to modify grub.conf
[08:03] <akshay>  how to modify grub.conf
[08:03] <indus> akshay, you shouldnt
[08:03] <akshay> i need to
[08:03] <akshay> guide me
[08:03] <indus> akshay, are you using 9.10?
[08:03] <akshay> ya
[08:03] <indus> akshay, then the process is different
[08:03] <akshay> tell me..
[08:04] <indus> akshay, what exactly do you want to do
[08:04] <akshay> i compiled a new kernel..so i want to edit it
[08:04] <indus> akshay, well, edit /etc/default/grub
[08:05] <indus> akshay, then run sudo update-grub
[08:05] <akshay> indus: what is this
[08:05] <indus> akshay, this is new configuration since 9.10 uses grub2
[08:05] <akshay> indus: ok let me try
[08:05] <indus> !grub2 | akshay
[08:05] <subham> indus:: I am sorry it is working ... but i was thinking as an moment i press f11 the window should cover the entire work space by hiding this panel .. is it would be possible to do so
[08:06] <subham> indus:: I am sorry it is working ... but i was thinking as an moment i press f11 the window should cover the entire work space by hiding this panel .. is it would be possible to do so
[08:06] <akshay> indus: it is not edit it is gedit :)
[08:06] <indus> subham, please dont repeat yourself :) i read it
[08:07] <subham> indus : sorry  for that
[08:07] <indus> subham, dont know how to do what you ask , can you be bit more clear
[08:07] <akshay> indus: iam unable to do that..i was familiar to menu.lst and not with this
[08:07] <indus> akshay, ya gedit
[08:07] <ginbuntu> is it possible to have Nautilus select the file when you do "open containing folder" in firefox downloads window? On windows it does it but not on Ubuntu. it is very annoying to find a file when you have a download folder with hundreds of files.
[08:07] <akshay> indus: i did "make install"  for my new kernel...wat to after that
[08:08] <tomoj> has anyone seen lack of iso9660 in the JeOS kernel?
[08:08] <indus> akshay, ok a custom entry should be added to the file /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[08:08] <DarwinSurvivor> how do I get to the "services" window in Karmic?
[08:08] <tomoj> (karmic)
[08:08] <beni-> hello... are there any USB-stick images of ubuntu-9.10-server-amd64.iso available for download? I have a PC withouth CD drive, but don't want to install netbook remix or so
[08:09] <akshay> indus:let me try
[08:09] <indus> akshay, but before that
[08:09] <Flannel> beni-: Do you have another computer with a CD drive (or Ubuntu installed on it?)
[08:09] <indus> akshay, just try this easy one step, sudo update-grub and see it new kernel is seen
[08:09] <DarwinSurvivor> beni-: unetbootin will put any ubuntu iso image onto a usb drive
[08:09] <indus> i go lunch now
[08:09] <b2p1mp> i actually made a grub 1 partition that loads an iso
[08:09] <akshay> ok
[08:09] <b2p1mp> upon reboot
[08:09] <b2p1mp> once
[08:09] <beni-> Flannel: i have a mac, with CD drive
[08:09] <akshay> indus:ok
[08:10] <Flannel> beni-: Is it 64bit? (not that it matters, but would simplify things)
[08:10] <beni-> Flannel: yes, both 64
[08:10] <akshay> indus:thanks it did worked
[08:10] <Zenker> can someone pleeeeaaase help me install blender2.49b?
[08:11] <b2p1mp> my loader shows 2 ubuntu 2 recovery after last update... how to remove the older kernal?
[08:11] <subham> indus:: i am saying when i press f11 key i want to c the working window should cover the entire screen as I am using hp mini and it quite difficult for any one to work on this
[08:11] <Flannel> beni-: Oh, server?  You can't use the LiveUSB creator for that.  You'll have to do it manually.
[08:11] <akshay> indus:but how to edit the grub.cfg
[08:11] <akshay> indus : i want to give a custom name
[08:12] <Flannel> beni-: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation%20without%20a%20CD has a number of methods, you can find one that works for your setup (server CD is the same as the alternate CD as far as boot methods are concerned)
[08:12] <subham> akshay :: i don't think you nead to edit this file in grub2
[08:12] <will__> subham
[08:12] <beni-> Flannel: ah sorry, no not server
[08:12] <akshay> indus: but i want to change the existing name
[08:12] <beni-> copied the wrong iso-name
[08:12] <will__> you got exp with nautilus
[08:13] <will__> anyone got exp with nautilus scripts
[08:13] <akshay> subham, i want to change the existing name
[08:13] <subham> aksay :: i don't think you nead to edit this file in grub2
[08:13] <akshay> subham,tell me proc
[08:14] <beni-> Flannel: i tried this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From%20Mac but the PC won't boot that USB stick. however, I could install arch from USB (http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Install_from_a_USB_flash_drive), so my PC can boot from USB, i'm sure
[08:14] <subham> ok
[08:15] <WinterSky> How do you set an application as the default for a file type? (Ubuntu 9.10)
[08:15] <akshay> subham, can u help me
[08:15] <lindar> Okay, my problem is thus: I am on a netbook. When I plug in my external monitor and tell it to switch to it (mirror monitor, extending, anything), the whole system freezes.  So, what I've had to do is restart, plug in my monitor, and then it only goes from that, and I have to restart and unplug it to go back to the netbook screen.
[08:15] <lindar> Using Ubuntu 9.10 32-bit.
[08:15] <subham> akshay :: you want to edit the entries for grub 2 for .. which part ... I have tried to change the entry for windows xp part ... on system ....
[08:16] <will__> anyone got experience with nautilus or can tell me who to talk to about it
[08:16] <will__> got a prob
[08:16] <akshay> subham, wat command shud i type to edit the grub.cgf file
[08:16] <lindar> will__, don't ask to ask, just ask.
[08:17] <will__> ok
[08:17] <subham> akshay ::  gksudo gedit /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme
[08:17] <will__> i downloaded from gnome eye candy nautilus xml animated background editor
[08:17] <will__> i want to remove it
[08:18] <will__> because i cannot right click the desktop and change background or themese
[08:18] <will__> themes
[08:18] <will__> anyone know how
[08:18] <lindar> Then you should probably use Synaptic to remove it.
[08:18] <linux_guru_mania> hey
[08:18] <lindar> Also, please try to constrain your posts to one or two lines as nobody likes to see it
[08:18] <akshay> subham,wat r u telling me
[08:18] <will__> do you know what its called, i dont want to delete NAUTILUS all together and mess something up
[08:18] <lindar> when people
[08:18] <lindar> type like
[08:18] <lindar> this.
[08:18] <FloodBot2> lindar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:18] <lindar> See?
[08:19] <will__> sorry
[08:19] <DarwinSurvivor> beni-: ok, so apparently ubuntu uses upstart with 9.10, is there a GUI for manager which services start at bootup??
[08:19] <DarwinSurvivor> oops, sorry, didn't mean to send that to beni :P
[08:19] <akshay> subham, like menu.lst .........we use to edit ..........in similar fashion i want to edit grub.cgf
[08:19] <DarwinSurvivor> ok, so apparently ubuntu uses upstart with 9.10, is there a GUI for manager which services start at bootup??
[08:19] <subham> akshay :: sory
[08:20] <lindar> DarwinSurvivor, yeah, go to System > Startup Applications
[08:20] <will__> so basically just go in synaptic and remove nautilus right
[08:20] <subham> akshay :: no this cant be done so as it is having some differences in this grub 2
[08:20] <trelane_> having a power manglement problem.  I have my laptop hooked up to an external monitor, however every time I close the lit it suspends.  As I'm not using the LCD display on the monitor (preferring my larger desktop panel), this is a bit annoying as I have to leave the laptop open consuming space.  Is there a way to get Ubuntu to simply IGNORE closing the lid?
[08:20] <Losha> DarwinSurvivor: see if 'bum' is available for your distro....
[08:20] <meco> I have installed the Flashblocker add-on for Firefox, but I can't seem to enable it. Any suggestions?
[08:20] <lindar> will__, no you probably don't want to do that as that's your file manager, unless you have another one you'd like to use. You probably want to remove the specific thing you added.
[08:21] <DarwinSurvivor> lindar: gah, since it was under "preferences" (which is usually user-specific stuff), I thought that was login-startups...
[08:21] <lindar> meco: Go to to Tools > Add-ons
[08:21] <meco> lindar: Done that
[08:21] <DarwinSurvivor> why did they move that from "Administration" to "Preferences"?!?
[08:21] <will__> well it downloaded as a zip entitled 110874-emlb
[08:21] <subham> akshay :: just a minit let me chake out the correct command for it ..
[08:21] <lindar> meco: Dunno. I probably have the same one. Did you restart Firefox?
[08:21] <Judgeholden> Hello all.
[08:21] <akshay> subham,, ya pls
[08:21] <lindar> will__, if you compiled it yourself, then you shouldn't have to ask me how to remove it. <3
[08:21] <will__> how do i find that and remove it through synaptic
[08:21] <meco> lindar: YEs
[08:22] <DarwinSurvivor> lindar: actually, nvm, that is the *WRONG* gui, i want SYSTEM startups, not gnome launches!
[08:22] <subham> akshay ::  can you have an look at http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/customizing-grub2-ubuntu-linux.html
[08:23] <subham> this will help you a lot
[08:23] <DarwinSurvivor> Losha: seems kind of weird for ubuntu to switch to upstart without supplying a GUI for managing it (same can be said for grub2)
[08:23] <will__> well im really asking if you know what to remove, do i just delete it or uninstall something
[08:23] <lindar> Flashblock <IP_ADDRESS> ? It works for me.  It is enabled in the Add-On meny and Javascript is also enabled. What could be the problem?
[08:24] <lindar> will__, did you compile the software yourself? If so, then I can't really help you. If you're compiling stuff yourself, I would assume you know how to remove it.
[08:24] <meco> lindar: Actually, it's 1.2.9a that I have...
[08:24] <will__> no i didnt, just downloaded it, it said open the zip click the install.sh file and enjoy
[08:24] <lindar> meco: Dunno. You did all the stupid things?
[08:25] <meco> lindar: I haven't compiled it myself
[08:25] <lindar> will__, dunno then.
[08:25] <foul_owl> quick question, any good codec identifying packages for ubuntu?
[08:25] <lindar> Look for an uninstaller? =\
[08:25] <will__> well thanx anyway, appreciate the help
[08:26] <Losha> foul_owl: mplayr plays pretty much everything and should tell you the codecs...
[08:26] <meco> lindar: It actually has an uninstall button, but it's greyed out.
[08:26] <subham> akshay :: you want to make changes for xp part or some thing els
[08:26] <lindar> meco: Click on preferences next to the icon and tell me what pops up, please.
[08:26] <Losha> foul_owl: mplayr -> mplayer
[08:26] <foul_owl> Losha: for some reason, mplayer crashes with this avi
[08:27] <subham> akshay :: i'll tell you what i have done for my xp entry .. hope this will help you
[08:27] <Efreak> how do i stop xserver from starting at boot?
[08:27] <Efreak> o_O
[08:27] <meco> lindar: I have a menu where I can unclick 'enable' and add items to a whitelist
[08:27] <Losha> foul_owl: unusual, but not unheard of. Try another player e.g. vlc or xine...
[08:28] <foul_owl> Losha: I get "Could not connect to socket" and "no such file or directory" then it exits
[08:28] <dugger5688> Efreak, why do you want it to stop?
[08:28] <lindar> meco: Okay, if it's enabled there, then I'd just recommend you get the most recent version (1.5).
[08:28] <Efreak> because its mainly a server
[08:28] <foul_owl> Losha: I tried vlc, and it just hangs. haven't tried xine yet. i am looking for a tool like gspot that can tell me the codec or possibly verify integrity
[08:28] <lindar> Hmmm... nobody answered my question yet... *repost*
[08:29] <lindar> Okay, my problem is thus: I am on a netbook. When I plug in my external monitor and tell it to switch to it (mirror monitor, extending, anything), the whole system freezes.  So, what I've had to do is restart, plug in my monitor, and then it only goes from that, and I have to restart and unplug it to go back to the netbook screen.
[08:29] <meco> lindar: Clicking the "Find updates" button tells me there are no updatesavailable
[08:29] <will__> was someone saying something to me
[08:29] <dugger5688> Alright, why not just install ubuntu-server next time? I'll look for how to do it.
[08:29] <Efreak> i did start with ubuntu-server
[08:29] <Efreak> but I wanted to be able to log in via xrdp; I've solved that bit already
[08:30] <Flannel> beni-: You want the desktop then?
[08:30] <subham> akshay ::  use this command :: sudo gedit /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
[08:30] <lindar> meco, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433 I typed "flashblocker mozilla plugin" into google and hit "I'm felling lucky."
[08:30] <meco> OK
[08:30] <lindar> *feeling
[08:30] <lindar> Wow, that was a bad one.
[08:30] <Losha> foul_owl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=453125. Disclaimer: Never tried it myself....
[08:31] <dugger5688> Never had to do it with Ubuntu, so I'm not really sure how X is started (different for the distros I've had to configure it under). Check this out maybe, http://serverfault.com/questions/19839/ubuntu-prevent-x-from-starting-turn-desktop-into-server
[08:32] <Efreak> ty
[08:32] <foul_owl> Losha: Thank you very much! I will give that a try :)
[08:32] <Efreak> yeah, i saw something similar, but I don't wanna mess with the startup scripts myself
[08:32] <Efreak> oh well
[08:32] <Flannel> !bum | Efreak
[08:33] <lindar> Wow. How do I set conference mode in XChat?
[08:33] <Efreak> ty
[08:33] <Efreak> and lastly, is there a gnome equivalent for startkde?
[08:34] <dugger5688> 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove'     <-should do it. I would test it out on my VM but it's currently doing a distro upgrade.
[08:34] <ovidiu> hello
[08:34] <ovidiu> help
[08:35] <theadmin> Where can i get some help on writing Makefiles?
[08:35] <Gnea> !ask > ovidiu
[08:35] <dbone> hey, does anybody remember me?
[08:35] <YoBoY> will__: try to remove the script on you /home/username/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts folder
[08:35] <theadmin> dbone: Huh?
[08:35] <lindar> Okay, my problem is thus: I am on a netbook. When I plug in my external monitor and tell it to switch to it (mirror monitor, extending, anything), the whole system freezes.  So, what I've had to do is restart, plug in my monitor, and then it only goes from that, and I have to restart and unplug it to go back to the netbook screen. *second reposting*
[08:36] <dbone> I was on earlier and I was trying to get multi-touch to work
[08:36] <dbone> I didn't know if anyone who was on here helping me before is still on?
[08:36] <subham> does any body knows how to change the tool bar appears in gedit  i want to have only icons i dont want to have the lables to show up under respective icon how to remove those lables ... please reply ...
[08:36] <Gnea> dbone: pretend everyone here is new.
[08:36] <theadmin> dbone: Uh, if  you have any questions, ask them, someone can help.
[08:36] <bag_> hey, anyone has an idea why my network-manager getting no IP from DGCP Server, dhclient still does get an IP?
[08:37] <Losha> lindar: click on the tab and look for 'show join/part messages'....
[08:37] <theadmin> bag_: I think you mean DHCP?
[08:37] <dbone> okay, well anyway, if anyone is interested in multitouch, I made a bit of a noob tutorial that you can find at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1426782#3
[08:37] <lindar> Losha: Thank you. <3
[08:37] <bag_> theadmin, yes sorry
[08:37] <theadmin> subham: Sorry, gedit is not much of customizable
[08:38] <ovidiu> my ports are locked how can i unlock my ports(27015)
[08:39] <lindar> Hmmm...  What to do? I have a problem, Google yields no results, and nobody here seems to know the answer. Suggestions?
[08:39] <bag_> subham, you can change that settings system-wide
[08:39] <meco> lindar: With the newer version everything worked as it's supposed to. But I should've been able to upgrade the version I had (or shouldn't have been given it in the first place as this system was installed only a week ago)
[08:39] <fstx> One of my network interfaces keeps going deaf, ifdown/ifup solves it. Any idea where to start looking?
[08:39] <subham> big_:: how ??
[08:40] <theadmin> ovidiu: What blocks them?
[08:40] <ovidiu> don't now...
[08:40] <ovidiu> i use a router
[08:40] <theadmin> ovidiu: You need to check it's settings then.
[08:40] <theadmin> ovidiu: How depends on the router model
[08:40] <dugger5688> ovidiu: http://<IP_ADDRESS> (usually)
[08:41] <theadmin> dugger5688: What the hell is that?
[08:41] <bag_> subham, system->preferences->(thats style preference thing with themes, 3 tab if i remember correctly)
[08:41] <lindar> meco: Shouldn't have, but you did. Feel free to burn away the rest of your day trying to figure out why you couldn't fix your problem that shouldn't have been possible in the first place and how it became a problem, or just count your blessings that you ran into somebody as awesome as I.
[08:41] <beni-> Flannel: sorry, was afk... yes Desktop Ubuntu
[08:42] <ovidiu> hey i opend ports already in my router but after instal ubuntu doesn't work anymore...even in windows are loked
[08:42] <dugger5688> fstx: Which interface?
[08:42] <meco> lindar: Hehe... Sometimes I feel like paving the road for the poor guys coming after me... Anyway, it worked with your assistance. Much appreciated!
[08:42] <ovidiu> pls someone prv me
[08:42] <ovidiu> who can help
[08:43] <dugger5688> Ovidiu, if it's not working in Ubuntu or windows, then the only thing blocking them is either your router or your ISP. Are you getting a static IP from your router or DHCP? If you have forwarding, they might be going to the wrong IP.
[08:44] <ovidiu> if i use other pc it works...
[08:45] <jurek53> jak zainstalować plik tar.bz
[08:45] <meco> Can someone think of reasons why Firefox is still using 96% of the CPU even with Flashblock installed (and working)?
[08:45] <lindar> meco: What are you doing in Firefox right now?
[08:45] <ovidiu> ports are open from router,i use 2 pc and it works but this one with ubuntu instaled doesn't work anymore...
[08:45] <fstx> dugger5688: the motherboard always works, the pci card one goes deaf. I've tried three different cards, so now the name is eth3. One thing that might be the differnece is that I have a number of iptable rules for this interface. But it works for a while (several hours at least=when down/up it,
[08:45] <songnghiem> i have a ques,any chance for OO display correctly mathtype equation ??
[08:46] <songnghiem> i have a ques,any chance for OO display correctly mathtype equation ??
[08:46] <subham> bag_ :: thanks .. I did it my simply right clicking and  selecting desktop background  and going to interface tab and making changes over there  .. thanks
[08:47] <dugger5688> fstx, that's weird. Sorry, that really sounds like something in the kernel that's beyond my ability to fix. Have you filed a bug report?
[08:47] <meco> lindar: I have four tabs open: two for a game called Starfleet Commander which does not have any fancy animated graphics, one for Wikipedia, and one for a Facebook Flash game where the Flashblock app is suppressing the flash content.
[08:48] <meco> lindar: And I haven't been active on Firefox the last five minutes approximately
[08:48] <ovidiu> how can i send a prv mes hee?
[08:48] <paddy_melon> ovidiu, /query username
[08:48] <fstx> dugger5688: not yet.
[08:48] <paddy_melon> or /msg username message
[08:49] <lindar> Huh...
[08:49] <dugger5688> fstx, I would try that. Could be an iptables config problem on your end. My experience with that is minimal. If you remove the iptables rules, what happens?
[08:49] <fstx> dugger5688: One thing Iäve noticed is that the ifconfig counters keep ticking
[08:51] <fstx> dugger5688: that interface is exposed on the internet, so thats not really ok. The iptables rules work they way I intended when I down/up it.
[08:52] <meco> lindar: Nothing comes to mind?
[08:53] <lindar> meco: Try it without the game running?
[08:53] <fstx> dugger5688: as far as I can see, all my rules are stateless
[08:53] <lindar> meco: Even better, try it with a single tab open.
[08:53] <fstx> dugger5688: thanks for your help. my train is in, I have to go
[08:55] <Losha> fstx: the iptables stuff is relatively mature. I'd suspect the hardware first...
[08:55] <theadmin> Um. Update-manager asked to update Apache... I hope that won't bring my server down?
[08:55] <Losha> theadmin: run a backup before you update, or take the risk....
[08:55] <fstx> losha: I did, I tried three different cards.
[08:56] <theadmin> Losha: It shouldn't damage the data itself, but i mean... It will be off during the update only, right?
[08:56] <theadmin> I mean it is supposed to start after install or must i do "apache2ctl start" manually?
[08:56] <Losha> fstx: interesting, I agree with dugger5688 then, suspect a kernel issue...
[08:56] <lixujia> \ping
[08:57] <Artyom> hello
[08:57] <Guest96037> potrzebuje malej pomocy ;)
[08:57] <Losha> theadmin: Sorry, no guarantees. The upgrade should restart the server for you, but there's always a chance that an update will bork something....
[08:57] <Guest96037> mógł by ktoś mi pomóc ?
[08:59] <theadmin> Losha: Well, yeah, that's true.
[08:59] <meco> lindar: Now I have only one tab open in Firefox and it draws around 30% CPU...
[09:00] <linuxlurker> meco any flash components on that tab?
[09:00] <theadmin> meco: Firefox has a huge leak issue, it never gives the memory back until you kill it, same with CPU i belive... At least on windows
[09:00] <meco> linuxlurker: No, and besides Flashblock is enabled
[09:00] <linuxlurker> I'm using chromium lately
[09:01] <linuxlurker> Firefox seems to have become as bloated as IE :)
[09:01] <meco> theadmin: OK, so the solution to my problems is basically what I am relegated to already: killing the app and restarting it whenever things start going syrupy?
[09:01] <theadmin> linuxlurker: No, not even close. Just don't install all those tons of addons
[09:01] <theadmin> meco: Yeah :(
[09:02]  * Friction[laptop] has about 25 extensions :D
[09:02] <dugger5688> Chromiums FTW!!
[09:02] <lindar> meco: That's ducked up.
[09:02] <Friction[laptop]> chrome doesn't have anywhere near as many extensions
[09:02] <Friction[laptop]> but as soon as it does i'm switching
[09:02] <dugger5688> I've also been digging epiphany for very very light browsing.
[09:03]  * theadmin has 6 extensions only
[09:03] <_saya> how do I lock my linux distro ?
[09:03] <meco> lindar: What has?
[09:03] <Beea> I have an older laptop Dell 1100 I just ordered 9. and realized my old computer may not run it.
[09:03] <theadmin> _saya: Huh?
[09:03] <dugger5688> Why not use firefox when you need the extensions and others when you don't
[09:03] <meco> Sorry, I don't know i "ducked up" is an idiom...
[09:03] <lindar> meco: Just commenting on the memory leaks.
[09:03] <linuxlurker> _saya, I'm not sure your question makes sense
[09:03] <Friction[laptop]> because i always use extensions
[09:03] <Clay^Work> _saya: ctrl + alt + L
[09:04] <Losha> meco: more of a typo than an idiom...
[09:04] <linuxlurker> ah lock the screen? !!
[09:04] <lindar> Losha: No, I was just being cute.
[09:04] <Beea> Does any one know if a Dell 1100 can use ubuntu 9 if not does ubuntu have something that will work
[09:04] <Losha> lindar: yeah, me too...
[09:04] <meco> Losha: Yeah... I caught that one a bit late
[09:04] <meco> A euphemism rather
[09:04] <lindar> Ugh, I feel totally stupid, but I can't seem to figure out how to move the damn task bar. -_-
[09:05] <vishal> dmesg -c ,,,,,what it does
[09:05] <theadmin> lindar: Right click it, choose Properties, change "Orientation"
[09:05] <lindar> theadmin, there's nowhere to click it. It's absolutely filled.
[09:05] <llutz> vishal: "man dmesg"
[09:05] <_saya> linuxlurker, Clay^Work, theadmin, thanks for reply .. I think I should have asked how I copy protect my ubuntu turnkey .. I want to secure my personal code ..
[09:06] <Zenker> i just came back for a sec to NOT thank anyone for helping me earlier, luckily, im not STUPID and i figured out how to install blender 2.49b
[09:06] <siropio> hello guys how i can configure my Database URL o work with JDBC?i tried String url = "jdbc:mysql://localhost/library"; but it didnt worked.i have lampp
[09:06] <lindar> Oh, I managed it, but it's still on the wrong screen.
[09:06] <Beea> ???? Can a Dell 1100 use ubuntu 9
[09:06] <vishal> llitz: actually I m trying for dialup connection, but i am not able to do that
[09:06] <meco> (parenthetically mentioning that "ducked up" is very close to (my) Norwegian "dukke opp" which means to surface or suddenly appear... )
[09:06] <Radar> Beea: try it and find out and report back! :)
[09:06] <lindar> Beea: Probably. Does it have at least a Pentium 2 and 128mb RAM?
[09:07] <indus> hi
[09:07] <Losha> _saya: I didn't think freeware distros were big on copy protection...
[09:07] <dugger5688> Beea Ubuntu 9? 9.10 or 9.04? Either way it shouldn't matter, my guess is that it will run it.
[09:07] <Zenker> but seriously, thanks for not helping me, i actually learned somethin on my own by reading pages and pages of info which is a very difficult task for someone with my disability
[09:07] <lindar> Oh, and to anybody that cares, I fixed my problem. I have to turn off the pretty effects because, even if I'm switching monitors, it has to enable both for a moment, which crashes the graphics engine due to its inability to render special graphics when desktop size reaches a certain width.
[09:07] <Beea> cool I will try it.
[09:07] <vishal> any body know php prgramming
[09:08] <Losha> Beea: that's what live cds are for. So you can test without committing....
[09:08] <lindar> Turning off the fancy effects worked and now I have my double monitoring back. =D
[09:08] <theadmin> vishal: #php
[09:08] <Beea> live cd's?
[09:08] <hmw> Zenker: you might like this one: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and also this one: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
[09:08] <lindar> So, how do I get my task bar to a different monitor?
[09:08] <fstx> losha: Yes, that is my conclusion too. But right now I can't even figure out good google terms. I tried three cards, but I am willing to try another one. What one shoul I order? PCI or PCI-e?
[09:08] <vishal> <theadmin: wat does it mean
[09:09] <theadmin> vishal: Type this: "/join #php" and hit enter, it will bring you to PHP chat room
[09:09] <hateball> Beea: The normal Ubuntu desktop cd and be used to test your system before doing an install to harddrive. To see if the hardware is supported etc.
[09:09] <dugger5688> Beaa, http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download
[09:09] <Losha> fstx: better throughput with PCI-e I thought, but really, 4th time lucky? Doesn't seem likely....
[09:09] <dugger5688> You don't need to 'order' Ubuntu, you can just d/l the live cd, burn it an test it. It'll boot off the cd and run like it's installed without actually installing it.
[09:10] <indus> vishal, just click on #php and you will be there
[09:10] <ngirard> Hi all. I'm experiencing this weird thing on ubuntu 8.10 and rhythmbox : it switches from pause to play by itself ! Anyone encountered this ?
[09:11] <indus> ngirard, yes happens to me sometimes
[09:11] <Beea> I can't burn it. my cd only is a read no write
[09:11] <ngirard> Hi indus. How did you solve it ?
[09:11] <lindar> Beea: Ah, if you have a USB flash drive, you can also use that, assuming your system supports booting from USB devices.
[09:11] <indus> ngirard, i didnt :D
[09:11] <hmw> Beea: one can make a USB flash drive with Ubuntu on it... but I cant tell you how, you'd have to ask Google
[09:11] <Beea> nope no drive
[09:12] <indus> Beea, hi are you on windows?
[09:12] <ngirard> indus: it's kinda annoying. Every 30s or so i have to pause the damn thing, then it switches back to play
[09:12] <lindar> How do I get my task bar to move to a different monitor? For some strange reason it's sitting on what my computer is treating as the secondary monitor, and I can't seem to move it, just change orientation.
[09:12] <theadmin> Beea: Are you on Windows? If so, use WUBI
[09:12] <indus> !unetbootin
[09:12] <Beea> yes, trying to get off
[09:12] <Beea> WUBI?
[09:12] <hateball> !wubi
[09:12] <theadmin> Beea: Windows Based Ubuntu Installer
[09:13] <lindar> Ah, you don't want Wubi.
[09:13] <theadmin> Beea: See http://wubi-installer.org
[09:13] <fstx> losha: I tried two netgear FA310TX, and one 3Com 9c905c. Trying something more modern does not sound like a bad idea to me.
[09:13] <lindar> It's funky as all heck.
[09:13] <indus> Beea,go to unetbootin.sourceforge.net and download this software , it will help you download or burn to a usb stick
[09:13] <theadmin> lindar: It's not that bad, a bit of slower then normal install
[09:13] <ngirard> indus: anyway, thanks for your feedback
[09:13] <Losha> Beea: you can order the cds for very little cost. https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[09:13] <theadmin> indus: (s)he has no usb stick
[09:13] <indus> Losha, those cds are free of cost
[09:13] <bobbyyu> My Apache is having trouble showing my test.pl in the CGI-bin
[09:13] <lindar> theadmin: I had a hell of a time with it. It'd be better to just plain install than install into NTFS.
[09:13] <indus> theadmin, ah uh oh :)
[09:13] <bobbyyu> The site is /home/bobbyyu
[09:14] <theadmin> lindar: You can't install it on NTFS
[09:14] <indus> theadmin, so what is he trying
[09:14] <bobbyyu> and I separated the public_html and the cgi-bin
[09:14] <Beea> I do not have a stick and can't afford one so I will wait for the cd
[09:14] <StrongOrder> Guys, how do I pipe and display a result of a commant in vim (terminal) ?
[09:14] <indus> Beea, it takes 3 weeks or so
[09:14] <lindar> Beea: Can't afford a 10$ USB thumb drive? Wowie.
[09:14] <indus> Beea, can you borrow cd from someone
[09:14] <bobbyyu> And put in the configuration pointing to that place
[09:14] <vishal> but after going into php channel ,,my msg is not reaching showing ##overflow
[09:15] <Losha> fstx: older hardware is, if anything, often better supported.  I did not realize they were that cheap. I will look into it
[09:15] <bobbyyu> Don't know any Apache help sites, do you?
[09:15] <indus> lindar, and even though i have been working 10 years, i just got my pen drive a year ago
[09:15] <Beea> I am disabled on a fixed income
[09:15] <brjann> bobbyyu: you could ask in #apache
[09:15] <theadmin> bobbyyu: I might be of some help
[09:16] <indus> Beea, where are you from?
[09:16] <Losha> indus: I wasn't sure, I seemed to recall they were charging postage nowadays. Free is better still...
[09:16] <StrongOrder> brjann, hg diff path_to_file | vim   does not work for me :(
[09:16] <Beea> seattle
[09:16] <Effit> hi. looking for some help. i have a wacom bamboo graphics tablet and it has its software installed on windows. wine will not run the installation for that, so i was wondering if i might be able to get some drivers for it, or something.
[09:16] <indus> Losha, no, postage paid by addressee
[09:16] <theadmin> StrongOrder: hg diff path_to_file | vim -
[09:16] <bobbyyu> No. brjann. Apache closed its channel
[09:16] <theadmin> StrongOrder: Try that
[09:16] <brjann> StrongOrder: | vim -    the dash is important
[09:16] <bobbyyu> admin, what should I do? :)
[09:16] <brjann> bobbyyu: oh, my bad :)
[09:16] <Losha> indus: perfect for Beea then...
[09:16] <Dayofswords> i cant figure out how to download all the files using wget , what i want to do is download all files in a web directory(stay in that folder) that match "Title_*.txt, anyone know how?
[09:16] <theadmin> bobbyyu: They didn't close it, they just moved to #httpd
[09:16] <indus> perfect for everyone
[09:16] <bobbyyu> OK thanks theadmin
[09:17] <indus> Beea, in seattle there are ubuntu groups which can give you a cd
[09:17] <murlidhar> err how can reduce the font size ?
[09:17] <Losha> indus: well, not for the impatient rich guys...
[09:17] <StrongOrder> theadmin, yes, that worked. thanks! any url I can get additional info ?
[09:17] <theadmin> StrongOrder: Read the manuals ;)
[09:17] <Beea> where would I find them
[09:18] <indus> Beea, hold on
[09:18] <StrongOrder> theadmin, the manuals of vim or bash? :)
[09:18] <ovidiu> By default any modern Linux distributions will have IP Forwarding disabled how can i enable that:D? the 1 milion $ question
[09:18] <indus> Beea, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PNWTeam
[09:18] <theadmin> StrongOrder: Generally "-" means "Read from STDIN"
[09:18] <murlidhar> oops i mean how can i reduce the size of icons ? ??
[09:19] <murlidhar> the default icon size when compared with the size of the fonts i wants is very large
[09:19] <ovidiu> By default any modern Linux distributions will have IP Forwarding disabled how can i enable that:D? the 1 milion $ question
[09:19] <StrongOrder> theadmin, I see, but it seems some programs do not support it. I just tried with nano, and it created a file :)
[09:19] <indus> Beea, also here http://www.gslug.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[09:19] <vlt> Hello. I installed the sky generator "stellarium". What time is shown there in the status line? It seems to be my local time. Does stellarium know that it's local or does it think it's UTC?  If local, why does it count from 2010-03-28 01:59:59 to 02:00:00 (and not 03:00)?
[09:19] <Losha> ovidiu: just google 'enable IP forwarding'. $1M please...
[09:19] <indus> Beea, maybe they would give you a cd
[09:20] <brjann> StrongOrder: the "Speaking Unix" series from IBM is always a classic. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/views/aix/libraryview.jsp?search_by=Speaking+UNIX+Part
[09:20] <theadmin> StrongOrder: Lol yeah
[09:20] <murlidhar> i even tried to change the dots per inch ....
[09:20] <vishal> after goin into php channel  it is showing cannot send channel
[09:20] <murlidhar> but it's only the font changes..
[09:20] <StrongOrder> brjann, wow, so much to learn..
[09:20] <vishal> wat is this
[09:21] <murlidhar> maybe i should ........ change the resolution ..
[09:21] <abhi_nav> hi
[09:21] <theadmin> vishal: Are you registered?
[09:21] <vishal> no
[09:21] <fstx> anybody tried killer k1?
[09:21] <theadmin> Hi, abhi_nav
[09:21] <vishal> how to registered
[09:21] <murlidhar> fstx: what's that ?
[09:21] <abhi_nav> theadmin :-)
[09:21] <brjann> StrongOrder: well, yes, but it's a pretty gentle introduction to a lot of topics.
[09:21] <theadmin> vishal: See "/msg nickserv help register"
[09:21] <sikun> working on a network setup.. i have a project where i am consolidating two offices, my main goal is to setup a server where files can be accessed by any computer in two different offices, but what i would like to do is have a server in each office that automatically 'syncs' files as they are updated on either location, i don't know if this is possible or where to even start. Currently i am working with about a total of about 200gb of data also.
[09:21] <Losha> Beea: PM me your address and I'll mail you out a dvd tomorrow...
[09:21] <fstx> fstx: an ethernet card. I think you can run iptables on the card
[09:22] <lindar> sikun: Uhhh... networked redundant RAID array? =\
[09:22] <Beea> Sorry about that.. thanks for the url. my computer locked up
[09:22] <Beea> i need a cd not dvd
[09:22] <lindar> Still haven't figured out how to get that task bar on the other monitor. =D
[09:23] <sikun> lindar: networked raid?
[09:23] <Beea> I think I will just pick up a USB stick and do it that way. Thanks for all the help.
[09:23] <vishal> how to register in php channel
[09:24] <Losha> !irc | vishal
[09:24] <Losha> !nick
[09:24] <Losha> Ah finally. !register
[09:24] <lindar> I don't know the logistics or the RAID type (I'm rusty at all of this), but there's a RAID type that creates redundant drives so there are two copies of everything, and you can probably do this over a network.
[09:24] <Losha> !register | vishal
[09:24] <theadmin> vishal: Sigh. /msg nickserv register PASSWORD EMAIL
[09:25] <Losha> theadmin: sometimes get the feeling no-one is paying attention?
[09:25] <theadmin> Losha: Yeah...
[09:25] <sikun> lindar: well what i was thinking at first was of doing a VPN setup or something along the lines of that.. but.. i don't have access to an internet connection that actually has a decent upload, the files i'll be dealing with are anywhere from 0-15mb each, and the internet connection on the server side would have a max of about 1mbit upload.. so i was just thinking of having two file servers each replicating files to each other
[09:26] <brjann> sikun: you might look into unison: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/
[09:26] <Beea> bummer now I will have to use a different password
[09:26] <brjann> !info unison | sikun
[09:26] <lindar> sikun: Yeah, so you have one half of the array at one location, and one half at the other. Except that... that's a stupid idea.
[09:26] <lindar> Cos it would have to write to both drives.
[09:26] <lindar> Hey, there you go.
[09:26] <sikun> hmm... unison looks promising!
[09:27] <lindar> Server sync software would be the better option.
[09:27] <lindar> I overlooked the fact that data would have to be written to both drives, which doesn't help your upload problem.
[09:27] <lindar> So... there you go. =P
[09:27] <Losha> sikun: when I was a lad, we used rsync....
[09:28] <tiina> hej någon som kunde hjälpa mig med min firefox
[09:28] <brjann> !se | tiina
[09:28] <sikun> lol.. i've used *nix for about 6 years... i know a decent amount.. but still would definately consider myself a newb, haha
[09:29] <tiina> hej jag har av nångon misstag installerat pre-firefox namoroka webläsare o vill ha tillbaka den vanliga firefox...vet du vilken det är?
[09:29] <sikun> the thought crossed my mind about just using windows server.. but then i decided not to even bother even toying with the idea, since the cost of just two licenses for what i would need is just outrageous
[09:29] <nightrid3r> !no | tiina
[09:30] <tiina> nej någon som pratar svenska här?
[09:30] <Drooling_Sheep> !se | tiina
[09:30] <brjann> tiina: skriv     /join #ubuntu-se     , takk
[09:31] <fstx> what do you say: netgear ga311, intel pro/1000gt or d-link dge-528t?
[09:33] <Losha> sikun: you'll have to check my math, but 200GB at 1mbit/sec will take about 20 days to do the initial sync. At that rate, you may never be able to keep up with the changes....
[09:33] <sikun> ok.. one last question, this network has about a total of 10 people that access files, on a scale of 1-10 of difficulty.. how is setting up a domain controller under ubuntu (hopefully i am using correct terminology.. i just want to be able to restrict only authorized users to access what they are allowed to, etc..)?
[09:33] <brjann> sikun: yeah, for the first sync, you might get better bandwidth out of the postal service ;)
[09:33] <sikun> Losha: well.. i'd say the first sync will be done just by using an external hard drive
[09:33] <sikun> hahaha
[09:34] <Losha> sikun: still doesn't let you out of doing the math. Just how much data are you planning to sync...?
[09:35] <sikun> well on average... each day i would say a max amount of data change would be no more than 1-2gb
[09:36] <sikun> office #2 is being downsized and will only be used once a week.. so its not a problem only having it sync every other day, or just two days before its used
[09:36] <Losha> sikun: so what happens if two people on opposite ends of the link try to edit the same file?
[09:36] <sikun> thats also what i was wondering... if its possible to 'lock' the file when someone has it opened
[09:37] <theadmin> Why can't i "sudo echo somestuff > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/somefile"?
[09:37] <sikun> but i would say right now usually MOST of the time... no two people are working on the same file
[09:37] <Losha> sikun: yes, but now you not only have a sync problem, you have a revision control management problem....
[09:37] <jstephan> someone may know if the beta1freeze and kernelfreeze will come today?
[09:38] <llutz> theadmin: use "tee"
[09:38] <sikun> hrm.. yeah.. i've been wondering about that
[09:38] <theadmin> llutz: How do i use that, it makes no sense to me
[09:38] <sikun> well would a VPN setup be a better idea then?
[09:38] <Beea> Thanks all I am sure I will be back when I actually get my computer ubuntuized
[09:38] <llutz> theadmin: it's faq, sudo echo > cannot work
[09:39] <brjann> sikun: that's one of the benefits of unison over something like rsync -- unison detects non-conflicting changes and merges them both ways, and then can be used to resolve conflicts
[09:39] <sikun> where just mapping a network drive over the net instead of having two different servers? Then the only problem would just be office #1 upload when a larger file would be opened
[09:39] <theadmin> llutz: Whatever, i'll just sudo -i and there goes
[09:39] <sikun> brjann: ooooh...
[09:39] <llutz> theadmin: echo foo|sudo tee file.bar
[09:40] <theadmin> llutz: Ah! Makes sense, thanks a lot!
[09:40] <Zet> hi
[09:40] <Zet> I upgraded my RAM yesterday from 2 to 4 GB
[09:40] <Zet> on a 64bit machine, 64bit Ubuntu installation
[09:40] <Losha> sikun: well you still have a problem with multiple writers even within a single site don't you? If you want to allow that, you need a revision control system, and one that works remotely too...
[09:40] <Zet> and now the machine crashes shortly after boot
[09:41] <Zet> just completely locks up
[09:41] <Losha> Zet: first guess is faulty RAM of course. Run memtest overnight....
[09:41] <Zet> I did
[09:41] <Zet> no errors
[09:41] <sikun> Losha: yeah.. hmmm
[09:41] <emiliyo> OLAAA
[09:41] <Zet> I also tried the new RAM in all available slots. no difference.
[09:42] <brjann> Zet: how long did you let memtest run?
[09:42] <Zet> brjann: almost 9 hours
[09:42] <indus> memtest is useless really
[09:42] <brjann> Zet: okay, i withdraw my unspoken objection ;)
[09:42] <indus> who has time to run that
[09:42] <Losha> indus: you run it overnight while you're sleeping...
[09:42] <llutz> indus: people trying to find hardware issues
[09:43] <indus> not even 1 % Of users ever do it
[09:43] <indus> i have statistics
[09:43] <abhi_nav> indus :-)
[09:43] <indus> its easier to replace ram and check
[09:43] <zortec> I want to try Gentoo from within Ubuntu.  Would it be possible to resize my root partition to allow space for Gentoo or do you suggest another method?
[09:43] <Losha> indus: pulled from which orifice?
[09:43] <silentx> Hey ... Why when i try to connect to my wireless network and enter the password .. it keep asking about the password .. without connecting .. << :(
[09:43] <indus> your friendly neighbourhood system vendor will help you
[09:43] <indus> or if iam near i will
[09:44] <indus> memtest is not 100 % accurate either
[09:44] <Zet> the computer does run significantly longer in failsafe mode, but eventually it still locks up
[09:44] <indus> but off topic now
[09:44] <Zet> within like half an hour
[09:44] <theadmin> zortec: Maybe Virtualbox?
[09:44] <testi> Zet, does it crash always and always at the same spot?
[09:44] <indus> Zet, maybe you have it two different ram sticks
[09:44] <lindar> silentx: That means that you have a bad connection.
[09:44] <theadmin> zortec: Nevertheless, it is possible, download any live CD with GParted, this will do for you
[09:44] <Zet> testi: pretty much yeah
[09:44] <indus> that aint gonna work good
[09:44] <lindar> silentx, either the source signal is weak, or you're not close enough.
[09:44] <llutz> indus: you can be quite sure your ram is faulty if memtest finds errors. you cannot be sure it will be ok if it won't find errors. simple it is
[09:44] <zortec> theadmin: I thought about using virtualization software but it would run slower... and prefer if I could just set up another partition in ubuntu and format it with a separate root, home, and swap partitions
[09:45] <silentx> lindar, it is my network and my wireless adaptor in the same room
[09:45] <zortec> theadmin: I have 116 gb unallocated space to play around with
[09:45] <indus> llutz, ya agree but i once cleaned my ram with water and silver polish, leter dried in sun....... worked like a charm
[09:45] <brjann> zortec: if your CPU is recent enough to have virtualization extensions, virtualization wouldn't be that much slower
[09:45] <Losha> Zet: it's possible a motherboard issue, triggered by the larger RAM. Sorry, I realize that's bad news...
[09:45] <lindar> silentx: What frequency range does it use?
[09:45] <theadmin> zortec: Great! Then just use GPartED to allocate it for you
[09:45] <phrearch> hi
[09:45] <indus> llutz, memtest reports 1 error but it is definitely not noticeable
[09:46] <Zet> Losha: yeah
[09:46] <phrearch> is there a nhibernate mono version somewhere for ubuntu?
[09:46] <zortec> brjann: I'm not sure if it is recent enough, my CPU is an Intel Dual Core 2.1 Ghz
[09:46] <llutz> indus: until system uses this bit
[09:46] <silentx> lindar, it is 9DBI ..
[09:46] <indus> it was nice to see my ram shining again :)
[09:46] <Zet> Losha: I did buy the motherboard used, so it's completely possible
[09:46] <shahin> anyone having problems with apt-update?
[09:46] <lindar> silentx: I didn't ask about the decibel level, I asked about the frequency range. =D
[09:46] <theadmin> shahin: Nope.
[09:46] <brjann> indus: one memory error on non-ECC RAM is enough to cause random system crashes
[09:47] <silentx> sorry i dont know :D .. i'm new in the networking feild ..
[09:47] <Losha> Zet: how is your 4G ram configured? Is it 2x2G or 4x1G or what?
[09:47] <indus> brjann, hmm i dont have it though, who knows what goes inside,
[09:47] <silentx> lindar, sorry i dont know :D .. i'm new in the networking feild ..
[09:47] <shahin> theadmin: hm, mine just says "99% [waiting for headers]" as soon as it comes to http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu karmic-security main restricted
[09:47] <indus> anyways i replaced with new ddr 2 anyway so np
[09:47] <zortec> theadmin: You wouldn't sugest using any of the partition tools like Palimpsest Disk Utility in Ubuntu?
[09:47] <lindar> silentx: Does it operate on 2.4GHz? 5.8GHz? Other? What protocol are you using? 802.11g? n?
[09:47] <shahin> theadmin: can you please check if you have that rep in your sources.list?
[09:47] <silentx> 2.4Ghz
[09:47] <brjann> zortec: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model
[09:48] <silentx> lindar, wait lemme check
[09:48] <lindar> Also, on what surface do you have the wireless router sitting, silentx ?
[09:48] <theadmin> shahin: Yeah, i do, it's just slow
[09:48] <emiliyo> olaa
[09:48] <zortec> brjann: model 15 - Intel Pentium Dual Core E2200 @ 2.20 Ghz
[09:48] <theadmin> zortec: No, you need a Live CD to play with a root partition
[09:48] <silentx> lindar, they near to each other :D .. in the same room ..
[09:49] <otswim> if i ofter want to launch 3 or 4 commands, should i make an alias in .bashrc and separate the commands with ';'? or is there a nicer way to do it?
[09:49] <shahin> theadmin: hm, i've waited a couple of minutes now. is it just today it's this slow?
[09:49] <lindar> silentx: Okay. On what surface do you have the wireless router placed?
[09:49] <testi> Zet did you als try to replace the old RAM, not using the old one as well as not using both, but the new one in the slot of the old one? How is the behaviour for each configuration? Assume it crashes differently or does not crash in the latter case, then the problem is probably hardware related.
[09:49] <brjann> zortec: nope, no virtualization extensions on that one :(
[09:49] <otswim> and when i compile programs from source, where should i put them? just in my home?
[09:49] <zortec> theadmin: What if I want to create another partition from the unallocated space? I'm also wondering if I need to create a swap partition as I already have one in ubuntu... so would just need a root and home partition for gentoo
[09:49] <theadmin> zortec: If you need one from allocated space, then okay, go ahead right from Ubuntu
[09:50] <silentx> lindar, on my office .. :S
[09:50] <testi> "not using both" -> "using both"
[09:50] <brjann> zortec: so long as you're not using hibernation, you can re-use the same swap partition for two distributions
[09:50] <Losha> Zet: what testi said...
[09:50] <zortec> theadmin: Can I use swap for both gentoo and ubuntu? My swap partition is 4.6 gb
[09:50] <Zet> I have 2x2gb sticks
[09:50] <lindar> silentx: On your office desk? Okay, do you have it next to anything like a mobile phone, monitor, speakers, or other similar electronic devices?
[09:50] <timthorpe> hi
[09:50] <zortec> brjann: Thanks, good info
[09:51] <Zet> I am not at home right now, I'm online from the university library. I'll swap the sticks around some more later today.
[09:51] <Zet> thanks for the suggestions
[09:51] <Losha> Zet: well, you know the original 2G is good. Try running just the new 2G....
[09:51] <silentx> lindar, yea old monitor speaker and my desktop also .. :S
[09:51] <indus> what is a good channel for buying pc hardware
[09:51] <Zet> Losha: I'll do that
[09:52] <p0a> Hello how do I view my hardware specs?
[09:52] <Losha> indus: #hardware I suppose...
[09:52] <lindar> silentx: So it's next to one of those big tube monitors and a set of speakers? =\
[09:52] <brjann> p0a: sudo lshw    will print out a nice report
[09:52] <Losha> indus: actually, I like newegg reviews, and slickdeals...
[09:52] <p0a> brjann, thanks :-)
[09:52] <otswim> and when i compile programs from source, where should i put them? just in my home?
[09:52] <silentx> lindar, yes
[09:53] <otswim> if i often want to launch 3 or 4 commands, should i make an alias in .bashrc and separate the commands with ';'? or is there a nicer way to do it?
[09:53] <llutz> !checkinstall | otswim
[09:53] <silentx> lindar, I could change it's place if you want to .. " the router and the adapter ..
[09:53] <lindar> silentx: I'll skip the explanation and just say that you need to move anything to do with your internet connection (modem, router, and so on) at least 2m (6 feet) away from those things. =D
[09:53] <Losha> otswim: I keep mine in ~/bin ...
[09:53] <llutz> otswim: install inside $HOME or use prefix=/usr/local
[09:54] <hmw> otswim: I have a bin folder in my home, and the path is pointing at it. It contains some scripts with tasks, i do often
[09:54] <silentx> lindar, wait .. I'll do it now ..
[09:54] <lindar> You know how the television goes crazy when somebody starts hoovering the living room? That's pretty much what you're doing to your internet.
[09:54] <Zet> just for the heck of it, are there any known lockup bugs in the new kernel that the upgrade thing just pushed on me earlier this week?
[09:54] <Zet> 2.6.20 or something?
[09:55] <Losha> otswim: an alias with ; separated programs is a perfectly reasonable way to do that...
[09:55] <otswim> ok great thanks
[09:55] <Zet> I just remembered I had not rebooted after that kernel upgrade before I shut down to install the ram
[09:55] <Losha> lindar: just another reason not to do housework...
[09:55] <lindar> xD
[09:55] <hmw> Losha: otswim: i alaways used && to separate commands in one line. What is the difference to ; ?
[09:55] <otswim> so i should put the bins in ~/bin, but what about the sources?
[09:55] <lindar> Why aren't things like induction and basic electronics included in general education?
[09:56] <Losha> Zet: if there are, you're the first person to complain about it, which seems unlikely...
[09:56] <otswim> hmw: when you use && the second command will be executed only if the first one succedeed
[09:56] <llutz> hmw:  && executes command to the right only if the one to the left exits without error,
[09:56] <lindar> Even really basic stuff.
[09:56] <yehia> how to change permission of my folder from ( root ) to Owner ?
[09:56] <hmw> otswim: aah...thanks... should have been obvious
[09:56] <p0a> Hello what's that utility that lets you paste stuff from the command line? Ie "paste foo.txt" -> http://<yourpastesite>.com/UocgJT
[09:56] <brjann> !language > lindar
[09:56] <yehia> sorry
[09:56] <lindar> =D
[09:56] <silentx> lindar, done ..
[09:56] <llutz> !pastebinit > p0a
[09:56] <brjann> p0a: pastebinit
[09:56] <yehia> how to chance owner from root - to my user
[09:56] <hmw> p0a: pastebinit
[09:57] <timthorpe> system info
[09:57] <silentx> lindar, I'll start to connect know ..
[09:57] <llutz> yehia: su - user
[09:57] <silentx> Disconnecting ..
[09:57] <otswim> so i should put the binaries in ~/bin, but what about the sources?
[09:57] <Losha> yehia: something like 'sudo chown -R Owner folder'
[09:57] <Losha> otswim: I keep sources in ~/src, binaries in ~/bin ....
[09:58] <hmw> otswim: you could call it ~/scripts if you prefer... some files in the various "bin" folders are actually shells scripts, btw
[09:58] <otswim> okay
[09:58] <yehia> llutz, i did what you told me
[09:58] <zortec> I get an error in the partition manager that there are too many primary partitions.  Is there a way around that?
[09:58] <p0a> I installed it, but when I try "echo foo | pastebinit" it says "http://pastebin.com"
[09:58] <yehia> what it the next step llutz.
[09:58] <p0a> Where's the rest of the link?
[09:58] <nemiro> zortec, no
[09:58] <Losha> otswim: the actual names are arbitrary, it's just about hygiene really...
[09:58] <llutz> yehia: sorry, misread you. ctrl-d to exit
[09:59] <otswim> Losha: yes sure; i was just asking about what's common
[09:59] <llutz> yehia: do what Losha told you
[09:59] <zortec> nemiro: You can only have a max of 4 primary partitions?
[09:59] <hmw> zortec: with MBR, yes
[09:59] <nemiro> zortec, yes.. unless you do something odd which I can't remember
[09:59] <yehia> losha , said ( something like )
[09:59] <brjann> p0a: yeah, pastebin.com hasn't worked for me recently either. try    pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.org
[09:59] <yehia> what does this mean llutz .
[10:00] <llutz> yehia: sudo chown -R user:group /directory
[10:00] <zortec> nemiro: So is there any way I can set a partition as extended? I'm trying to create one to hold /gentoo/home
[10:00] <brjann> p0a: wait, that's not the right url. just a sec
[10:00] <hmw> nemiro: zortec: you could use GPT instead of MBR
[10:00] <Losha> zortec: make the 4th an extended (logical) partition, then put extra logical partitions inside it....
[10:00] <p0a> brjann, it's .com
[10:00] <brjann> p0a: ah, right. my bad
[10:01] <p0a> brjann, how do I alias this to pasteit? pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:01] <p0a> So when I type pasteit in the command line I'll get that command ^
[10:01] <llutz> yehia: for files it would be "sudo chown  user:group /path/to/file"
[10:01] <hmw> nemiro: zortec: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table  -  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record
[10:01] <Bjelleklang> does anyone else get a gpg error when updating package lists on 9.10? Karmic-updates Release is the one giving an error on my two machines
[10:01] <brjann> p0a: alias pasteit='pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com'    should work
[10:02] <brjann> p0a: you'll have to put that in your ~/.bash_profile if you want it to persist across logins (which i assume you do)
[10:02] <teo77> no ez az xchat se szebb :)
[10:02] <yehia> it tells me so llutz . chown: missing operand after `yehia:yehia/~/.fluxbox/styles'
[10:02] <p0a> brjann, good idea
[10:02] <yehia> Try `chown --help' for more information.
[10:03] <llutz> yehia: missing space in front of /
[10:03] <brjann> !hu | teo77
[10:03] <llutz> yehia: and /~/ is wrong
[10:03] <teo77> ok
[10:03] <teo77> hogy tudok belépni rá?
[10:04] <brjann> teo77: /join #ubuntu-hu
[10:04] <teo77> köszönöm
[10:04] <llutz> yehia: sudo chown -R yehia:yehia ~/.fluxbox/styles
[10:04] <Losha> brjann: the name changed. Now http://ubuntu.pastebin.com...
[10:04] <p0a> brjann, is there a way to load .bash_profile to my current login?
[10:04] <brjann> p0a: yep,    source ~/.bash_profile
[10:04] <teo77> bíró janinak hívnak?
[10:04] <llutz> p0a: ". .bash_profile"
[10:04] <brjann> Losha: aha!
[10:05] <p0a> thanks it worked
[10:05] <BbT0n> hi all
[10:05] <Losha> brjann: the old one started requiring registration or something so they moved it...
[10:05] <Nexlog> #ubuntu-br
[10:05] <yehia> chown: cannot access `/home/yehia/.fluxbox/style': No such file or directory   this is what i got llutz
[10:06] <llutz> yehia: then make sure using the correct path
[10:06] <Losha> !hu | teo77
[10:07] <brjann> Losha: i guess I should edit the script so I don't have to keep typing the URL all the time
[10:07] <Losha> brjann: :-)
[10:07] <p0a> that's strange, the alias doesn't work
[10:07] <brjann> p0a: type    alias    all by itself and make sure it's loaded properly
[10:07] <Losha> p0a: are you sure you used the right url?
[10:08] <p0a> alias pasteit='pastebinit -b http://yourpaste.net -a anonymous', when I run echo foo | pasteit the program doesn't seem to respond
[10:08] <p0a> while echo foo | pastebinit -b http://yourpaste.net -a anonymous works
[10:08] <yehia> the directory is located in   ( usr / share / fluxbox      and then the one which i need to change the permission  is inside the fluxbox named ( styles)
[10:08] <yehia> llutz . one which i need to change the permission  is inside the fluxbox named ( styles)
[10:08] <p0a> NVM! it worked :-) sorry for bothering you guys and thanks again.
[10:10] <llutz> yehia: your error shows "/style" missing "s". type carefully, we won't teach you
[10:12] <yehia> ok sorry for mistake llutz ,
[10:13] <yehia> llutz , i did as you corrected me and it gave me this    yehia@yehia:~$ sudo chown -R yehia:yehia ~/.fluxbox/styles
[10:13] <yehia> yehia@yehia:~$
[10:14] <llutz> yehia: so it worked
[10:14] <dreamflying> who knows how to install cadence in ubuntu ?
[10:15] <yehia> llutz , no... still i cant change the permission
[10:16] <lindar> dreamflying: Probably with Synaptic.
[10:16] <nonexks> can someone tell me the command to type in to restore all my repository lists to defaults .. i am getting errors when i try to update
[10:16] <llutz> yehia: "ls -ld ~/.fluxbox/styles"
[10:17] <notsmack> hey guys, i've got gnome's thumbnailing set to "files under 10MB" and "local files only", but it's trying to a 2.5TB sshfs folder of movies...
[10:17] <yehia> drwxr-xr-x 3 yehia yehia 4096 2010-02-22 20:09 /home/yehia/.fluxbox/styles
[10:18] <yehia> llutz, drwxr-xr-x 3 yehia yehia 4096 2010-02-22 20:09 /home/yehia/.fluxbox/styles
[10:18] <llutz> yehia: belongs to you
[10:19] <nonexks> i am getting this when I try to sudo apt-get update W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-backports/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[10:19] <dreamflying> sudo chmod 777 /home/yehia/.fluxbox/styles
[10:19] <llutz> dreamflying: NO
[10:20] <yehia> what you mean llutz. . ?
[10:20] <llutz> dreamflying: there are hardly reasons for 777, and no reasons at all for it inside a home-dir
[10:20] <ginbuntu> hi, is there any utility to connect to my kvm guest os that are running on another machine? I am using ssh tunnel at the moment but it is pain in the ass
[10:20] <yehia> dreamflying. i did but its not working
[10:21] <maxagaz> Hi, when I try to install mysql-server on hardy, I get the following error => http://pastebin.com/mbjwLN5k, can someone help ?
[10:21] <nimrod10> ginbuntu, use virt-manager
 do you have root user ?
[10:22] <yehia> dreamflying . i dont know
[10:22] <dreamflying> you can creat a root user:  sudo passwd root
[10:22] <llutz> yehia: don't change anything to world-writable without need
[10:23] <Ceeriael> is it correct that Ubuntu cannot software raid1 2 Disks, but need it to be 2 partitions ???
[10:23] <llutz> dreamflying: stop it pls, that won't help at all and isn't supported here
[10:23] <Plooral> Hi pappies. If I install ubuntu onto a hard drive that already contains Windows Xp and Windows 7, will 9.10 detect those partitions and add them to grub?
[10:24] <linuxlurker> dreamflying, thats like fixing a problem with a sledgehammer :)
[10:24] <llutz> linuxlurker: that's plain stupid, not fixing anything
[10:24] <Plooral> Hi pappies. If I install ubuntu onto a hard drive that already contains Windows Xp and Windows 7, will 9.10 detect those partitions and add them to grub? I know previous versions did in the past, but I read conflicting reports on the 'net
[10:25] <hmw> Plooral: it worked on my box
[10:25] <yehia> so no more help llutz ?
[10:25] <Plooral> hmw 9.10?
[10:25] <llutz> yehia: the permissions of that dir are ok. what do you try to do?
[10:25] <Plooral> hmw with ubuntu being the last OS added?
[10:25] <hmw> Plooral: uhm... sorry, i forgot, 9.04, not GRUB2
[10:26] <Plooral> hmw yeah, that's the thing
[10:26] <hmw> Plooral: Ubuntu last is always easier
[10:26] <linuxlurker> Plooral, my experience is that when you get to the grub install step, it will list what it detects, and you can back out if it doesnt detect what you are looking for
[10:26] <nonexks> is there a command to reset my repository's to default or upgrade it to latest list ?
[10:26] <Plooral> A couple of sites have said that 9.10 didn't detect the Windows 7 install, only the XP one
[10:26] <yehia> llutz iam trying to extract or copy any thing in this Dir ... its not accepting  and tells me that i  dont have permission
[10:27] <linuxlurker> Plooral, you best be careful at that step then :)
[10:27] <REAL1> hello .
[10:27] <Plooral> Linkadmin hmm, does it? It seems I've forgotten
[10:27] <REAL1>  got some problem... my apt-get update.. stack on REAL1
[10:27] <llutz> yehia: "ls -ld ~/.fluxbox/"
[10:27] <REAL1> 99% [Waiting for headers]
[10:27] <linuxlurker> Plooral, have a backup solution for recovery just in case
[10:27] <Plooral> linuxlurker well, it's not the end of the world, I can get a bootloader on there
[10:27] <linuxlurker> Plooral, yep
[10:27] <hmw> Plooral: perhaps you can plug in another hdd and make a test setup?
[10:27] <Plooral> I'm just checking for other people's experiences
[10:28] <LaeTo> How do I run the command "gnome-session-save" to kill the display ?
[10:28] <yehia> llutz. drwxr-xr-x 5 yehia yehia 4096 2010-03-11 11:35 /home/yehia/.fluxbox/
[10:28] <Plooral> hmw I would if I could but I can't
[10:28] <Plooral> hmw so I won't
[10:28] <Plooral> :)
[10:28] <linuxlurker> Plooral, I havent tried Windows 7 yet
[10:28] <Plooral> Oh well, what the hell. I'm going for it. Worst comes to worst I have to put a bootloader on there manually
[10:28] <llutz> yehia: that's odd, permissions are fine. how do you try to copy things in?
[10:28] <ginbuntu> can some one helps me with this issue? http://pastebin.org/109577
[10:29] <linuxlurker> Plooral, thats the spirit. :)  Leave the regrets for later. ;)
[10:29] <LaeTo> Hello...does anyone knows the answer ?
[10:29] <ginbuntu> that command worked before ( few months ago)
[10:29] <REAL1> ive got some problem here ... my apt-get update.. stack on 99% [Waiting for headers]
[10:29] <yehia> ok i will tell you .. llutz
[10:29] <Vtec> is there an irc channel for linux mint?
[10:29] <hmw> Plooral: i dont like 9.10 due to two details: the audio mixer only allows to set input volume and output volume, no WAVE/LINE/MIC etc. Secondly, you cannot configure services via the GUI anymore. Therefore I went back to 9.04. Perhaps that is an option for you?
[10:29] <llutz> yehia: nautilus/cp?
[10:30] <brjann> !mint | Vtec
[10:30] <Plooral> REAL1 and you've "ctrl-C"ed that puppy and done it again?
[10:30] <yehia> llutz, I  extract Nasa.tar.gz to ~/.fluxbox/styles/ and when i do this ... it tells me  that i cant do it coz i have no permission
[10:30] <mohjak> How to fix grub after formating windows?
[10:30] <REAL1> Plooral, try that aleardy.
[10:30] <ZykoticK9> !mintsupport | Vtec
[10:30] <Vtec> thankyou very much
[10:30] <brjann> Vtec: sorry, that ^ was the one i meant to type :(
[10:30] <Plooral> hmw hmm, it may be. I have both isos here. So 9.10 has proved problematic for people ...
[10:31] <linuxlurker> REAL1, a problem with your mirror perhaps?
[10:31] <REAL1> dont know
[10:31] <llutz> yehia: like this "tar xzf Nasa.tar.gz -C ~/.fluxbox/styles"?
[10:31] <REAL1> :-0
[10:31] <hmw> Plooral: I just didnt like it very much. The boot graphics/window styles are changed too, now it is no longer "summer" but "autumn" :)
[10:32] <yehia> llutz, ok lets talk there
[10:32] <Plooral> hmw ok. Well, the truth of it is I usually only install a base ubuntu and use openbox, not gnome anyway
[10:32] <linuxlurker> Plooral, +1 openbox
[10:32] <llutz> yehia: don't try to pm me, it will be ignored
[10:32] <Plooral> hmw but thanks for your input. It means you care
[10:32] <Plooral> :)
[10:33]  * hmw cares
[10:33]  * Plooral cares that hmw cares
[10:34] <yehia> ok llutz , the command as i told you before      i want to extract or copy some files in the dir which is     (    Fluxbox/styles )      its not accepting it and tells me i have no permission .
[10:34] <Plooral> you have to love it when people say "that command worked for me a few weeks ago"
[10:34] <nmvictor> i am trying to set up a tunnel so i can be able to connect to freenode even behind our campus's proxy, is theis someone who has done this before and is willing to take my hand on this, i am following an artical in [http://www.debubuntu.org/2006/04/08/22-ssh-and-port-forwarding-or-how-to-get-through-a-firewall]
[10:35] <Plooral> nmvictor yeah, what's the problem? Of course, your campus has to allow connections out on port 22
[10:35] <zortec> Can anyone see why this command would not work: tar -xvjf /mnt/gentoo/portage-latest.tar.bz2 -C /mnt/gentoo/usr?
[10:35] <Plooral> nmvictor if they don't you can run the remote ssh server on port 80 or 443
[10:36] <ZykoticK9> zortec, this is ubuntu support, not gentoo support - is there not a gentoo channel?
[10:36] <zortec> I'm installing gentoo within ubuntu... so I didn't know if the question was alright or not
[10:36] <Plooral> nmvictor in other words, you need a remote box that you control running an ssh server on port 80 or 443
[10:36] <nmvictor> Plooral: thanks,  ok, i saw something like ssh <some-username>@<some-host> blah blah blah, so how do i come up with the username and host?
[10:37] <Plooral> nmvictor well you have to be running an ssh server of your own. Like one at home
[10:37] <nmvictor> Plooral: my computer is named nmvictors-linuxbox
[10:37] <brjann> zortec: do you have permission to extract the file to that directory?
[10:38] <Plooral> nmvictor you need the IP address. Or dynamic DNS name if you have one
[10:38] <yehia> all what i need to change the owner to have permission ... cant any body tell me how to fix it ?
[10:38] <yehia> is it soo hard issue?
[10:38] <nmvictor> Plooral: is it possible to run that on one machine or do i need another machine for that?
[10:38] <Plooral> nmvictor it looks like; CAMPUS --> NMVICTORS_LINUXBOX--> FREENODE
[10:38] <ortsvorsteher> yehia, sudo chown username:groupname dir/file
[10:38] <zortec> brjann: That was it, didn't use sudo to run the command
[10:39] <zortec> brjann: I often forget to do that
[10:39] <brjann> zortec: hehe, no problem
[10:39] <linuxlurker> Plooral, so you ssh into your own box, and then your box accesses ir?
[10:39] <Plooral> nmvictor incidently, I got around the whole thing by getting what we call here "mobile broadband". Modem is a USB stick and does about 400kB/s downloads
[10:39] <yehia> ortvorsteher . i have done this before many times and no USE --
[10:39] <Plooral> linuxlurker yep
[10:39] <zortec> So I have a follow-up question, is it necessary to use sudo any time you are doing file operations?
[10:39] <linuxlurker> Plooral, cool :)
[10:39] <nmvictor> so how do i starts, how do i come up with ip or dns, whats the best option?
[10:40] <ortsvorsteher> yehia, what exactly you need to change? do you use the right username which exists on the system?
[10:40] <Plooral> nmvictor well your linuxbox is connected to the net, right?
[10:40] <nmvictor> Plooral: thats what am usin to connect at the moment coz i can get passed our campus's proxy
[10:40] <brjann> zortec: only when your unprivileged user doesn't have the rights to do whatever it is you're trying to do
[10:40] <brjann> zortec: which I admit is sort of a circular answer
[10:41] <zortec> brjann: how does one tell if sudo is neededfor a command?
[10:41] <yehia> ortvorsteher, yesss
[10:41] <zortec> brjann: I don't usually check rights before issuing any file commands
[10:41] <ortsvorsteher> !tab | yehia
[10:41] <Plooral> nmvictor so you mean you are already able to connect to your own box at home from campus?
[10:41] <brjann> zortec: generally speaking, your user can do pretty much whatever it wants inside /home/<your user>. outside of that, pretty much everything else is owned by root or another system account.
[10:41] <ortsvorsteher> yehia, what do you want to change? show me the file or the dir and the command which doesn't work
[10:42] <Plooral> nmvictor if you can, you just need to use Putty and configure it to use your campus proxy
[10:42] <zortec> brjann: the whole directory I created for gentoo is owned by root... I see that when I type "ls -l"
[10:42] <Plooral> nmvictor I've given you all the pieces, but I have to do this install now. I'm on campus atm myself :)
[10:42] <nmvictor> Nop, i have dual booted one of the campuses comp withn ubuntu, i named the ubuntu system nmvictors-linuxbox, that is what i want to connect to irc with
[10:43] <linuxlurker> nmvictor, so you are saying your box is behind the campus firewall?
[10:43] <brjann> zortec: as it should be, if you're installing a base system. if you installed it as your user you would have serious issues.
[10:43] <ubuntu> fr
[10:43] <zortec> brjann: appreciate the help :)
[10:43] <brjann> zortec: sure thing
[10:44] <nmvictor> Plooral: seee ^^^, i forgot to include your nick
[10:44] <nmvictor> linuxlurker: yea,
[10:44] <linuxlurker> nmvictor, and you are connected to freenode now, behind the campus firewall?
[10:44] <yehia> ortvorsteher, i have a folder named fluxbox/styles    and all i want to do is to copy something inside this folder or to extract something into this folder ... but always gives me ( i cant coz i dont have permission )
[10:44] <zortec> well, got to see if ff13 lives up to the hype on 360/ps3
[10:45] <nmvictor> linuxlurker: no, i am using a modem, GSM modem
[10:45] <linuxlurker> nmvictor, ah ok
[10:45] <yehia> ortvorsteher the command i do is : extract Nasa.tar.gz to ~/.fluxbox/styles/       but no chance ....
[10:45] <nmvictor> linuxlurker: So i had to disconnect campus connections in favour of modem so i could get to you  guys
[10:45] <yehia> ortvorsteher , i also did what you told me
[10:46] <yehia> ortvorsteher , but still no chance
[10:46] <linuxlurker> nmvictor, you have web access from behind the firewall yes?
[10:46] <nmvictor> linuxlurker: yea,
[10:47] <linuxlurker> nmvictor, hmmm..I think this setup is a little different to what Plooral was thinking...I think the assumption was you had a box outside of campus
[10:47] <ortsvorsteher> yehia, my nickname is ortsvorsteher, not ortvorsteher. show me the permissions on .fluxbox/styles
[10:47] <ortsvorsteher> !tab | yehia
[10:47] <meowbuntu> hi i have a usb device i cant cd to it has a space in the file name i cant change it even with sudo.  what i need is the command to give me the syntax for spaces
[10:48] <ovidiu> By default any modern Linux distributions will have IP Forwarding disabled.how can i enable on ubuntu!1 mil $ question
[10:48] <nmvictor> linuxlurker: yea, so i was folloring this artical and i needed assistance [http://www.debubuntu.org/2006/04/08/22-ssh-and-port-forwarding-or-how-to-get-through-a-firewall], mind taking my hand on this>
[10:48] <linuxlurker> nmvictor, let me read the instructions for a bit
[10:48] <Logicwax> I got a problem where my computer just freezes on the ubuntu logo upon bootup.  no HDD activity or anything.  just locks up.  it takes about 4-5 reboots until ubuntu boots regular again.
[10:48] <Logicwax> I also built a brand new computer, and xfered my ubuntu install to another HDD.   the same problem is there, so I know this is not a hardware issue
[10:49] <brjann> meowbuntu: you can either double-quote it, like    cd "some directory with spaces"     or escape the spaces with backslashes, like     cd some\ other\ directory
[10:49] <Logicwax> was wondering where i could look to see what the problem may be...if theres some sort of boot log
[10:49] <nmvictor> linuxlurker: ok, i got into a snag, how i come up with the username and the host to use
[10:50] <ovidiu> By default any modern Linux distributions will have IP Forwarding disabled.how can i enable on ubuntu!1 mil $ question
[10:50] <iceroot> ovidiu: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[10:51] <robinsmidsrod> ovidiu: echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forwarding afaik (untested)
[10:51] <robinsmidsrod> iceroot is probably the accurate one ;)
[10:51] <rotem> hi, please i need your help. is there a possibility to get the extern methods from .so file? is there any tool?
[10:51] <robinsmidsrod> rotem: libtool, isn't it?
[10:51] <linuxlurker> nmvictor, web link is not working for me
[10:52] <rotem> robinsmidsrod, if your saying :) i have no idea, i will check it out, thanks :)
[10:52] <robinsmidsrod> objdump is what you need, afaik
[10:52] <yehia> ortsvorsteher , how to send you a picture
[10:52] <nmvictor> linuxlurker: web link, through browser?
[10:53] <linuxlurker> nmvictor, yeah..it cant find that url
[10:53] <robinsmidsrod> forget my previous suggestion
[10:53] <zeroseven0183> Hi! Does anyone know of a free process simulation software like ProModel?
[10:53] <robinsmidsrod> rotem: used objdump to try to understand a linking problem once on windows (but it's a gnu tool)
[10:53] <ortsvorsteher> yehia, you can use a paste service for the output
[10:53] <ortsvorsteher> !paste | yehia
[10:54] <rotem> robinsmidsrod, sure thanks
[10:54] <nmvictor> linuxlurker: You mean you cant connect passed the proxy through your browser?
[10:55] <nmvictor> i am trying to set up a tunnel so i can be able to connect to freenode even behind our campus's proxy, is theis someone who has done this before and is willing to take my hand on this, i am following an artical in [http://www.debubuntu.org/2006/04/08/22-ssh-and-port-forwarding-or-how-to-get-through-a-firewall]
[10:55] <linuxlurker> nmvictor, dns error..cant find the server
[10:55] <nmvictor> linuxlurker: which browser?
[10:56] <yehia> ortsvorsteher, http://imagebin.org/88430
[10:56] <linuxlurker> nmvictor, chromium
[10:57] <ortsvorsteher> yehia, did you ever worked in an terminal? you know what a terminal is?
[10:57] <yehia>  ortsvorsteher http://imagebin.org/88431
[10:57] <nmvictor> linuxlurker: how about the rest, maybe you need to set the settings in network prefernece, i dont use chromium, i might not be of much help
[10:57] <yehia> ortsvorsteher , all what i know is just an application to use commands
[10:57] <ovidiu> By default any modern Linux distributions will have IP Forwarding disabled.how can i enable on ubuntu!1 mil $ question
[10:58] <ortsvorsteher> yehia, try application - extras - terminal please
[10:58] <linuxlurker> nmvictor, the way I have heard people doing it usually involves two computers...one behind the firewall and one outside..
[10:58] <ginbuntu> sudo virt-install -n jboss2          -r 1024 --vcpus=2 --os-type=linux --nonsparse -w bridge:br1 --accelerate --vnc --noautoconsole --vncport=5907 -f /dev/sdb1 -c /VMs/cd-images/ubuntu-8.04.4-server-amd64.iso
[10:59] <tigerplug292> hey guys anyone able to tell me if the error message " The error message is - "550 mail from <IP_ADDRESS> refused, see http://www.spamhaus.org" means that its a problem with my server or the receipient?
[10:59] <linuxlurker> nmvictor, the one outside has full access, so you make an ssh connection to the outside box which is running the ssh server..with your client on the box behind the firewall
[10:59] <ortsvorsteher> yehia, did you found your terminal?
[10:59] <yehia> ortsvorsteher , i dont have something called Extras in my Application menu
[10:59] <Sia-> can restore the default menu or top toolbar to Default?
[11:00] <linuxlurker> nmvictor, the finer points of making that happen are beyond me...and it seems you are talking about one box behind a firewall without having an outside box
[11:00] <nmvictor> so you mean i can do that on my one box behind a firewall?
[11:00] <yehia> ortsvorsteher , but i have a terminal in my accessories and i can open it
[11:00] <Sia-> reset gnome toolbar??
[11:01] <linuxlurker> nmvictor, I dont know of a way to do it with only one box myself, no
[11:01] <ortsvorsteher> yehia, when terminal is open, type in there "ls -al .fluxbox/styles" and paste the first line ( and only this one ) here
[11:01] <mylisto> How can I completely remove a program from my system...I had xchat on, but some settings got really jacked and I want to comp remove it from my system.
[11:01] <mylisto> I used add/remove but it didn't work...
[11:02] <will__> can someone help with nautilus animated wallpaper
[11:02] <will__> it broke :-X
[11:02] <nmvictor> linuxlurker: thanks anyway, i'll see #debian, they sprouted the idea in me yesterday, they might have a say
[11:02] <ortsvorsteher> !someone | will__
[11:02] <linuxlurker> nmvictor, cool
[11:02] <will__> does anybody know how to fix nautilus animated wallpaper
[11:03] <hmw> will__: fix ??
[11:03] <hmw> ah
[11:03] <llutz> yehia: "ls -ld ~/.fluxbox/styles"
[11:03] <yehia> ortsvorsteher ,          http://pastebin.com/8Bs4fF3A
[11:03] <kikky> i lost my boot after installing windows in the other partition with ubuntu
[11:03] <will__> yes i downloaded XML animated background creator 0.6
[11:04] <kikky> when pc starts, i get a grub shell
[11:04] <will__> now my wallpaper dissapeared
[11:04] <kikky> how to get ubuntu back
[11:04] <will__> and i cannot access themes
[11:04] <linuxlurker> mylisto, sudo apt-get purge <application.package> ?
[11:04] <ortsvorsteher> yehia, "ls -ld ~/.fluxbox" and give the output
[11:04] <will__> is there a way to uninstall this XML animated background creator 0.6
[11:04] <hmw> will__: sorry, i have no clue... you might be able to access themes through the System / Preferences / Appearance Menu perhaps.
[11:05] <will__> when i click appearance it opens for 1 second then closes automatically
[11:05] <hmw> !grub > kikky
[11:05] <hmw> !grub > hmw
[11:05] <will__> you know a chat that maybe help
[11:06] <rotem> robinsmidsrod, Do you know how do i list the extern methods with objdump?
[11:06] <kikky> ok , i will try
[11:06] <yehia> ortsvorsteher   drwxr-xr-x 5 yehia yehia 4096 2010-03-11 11:35 /home/yehia/.fluxbox
[11:06] <otswim> how can i display all the files that end by ~? i've tried ls *~ or ls "*~" but i get no such file or directory
[11:07] <ortsvorsteher> yehia, and what do you want to extract there?
[11:08] <llutz> ortsvorsteher: his permissions are ok and i already told him to try "tar xzf Nasa.tar.gz -C ~/.fluxbox/styles"  but still no success
[11:09] <yehia> i have a file on my desktop named  Nasa.tar.gz   and i do this command       extract Nasa.tar.gz to ~/.fluxbox/styles/                     but as i said - its giving me what i posted to you before as pictures
[11:09] <aperson> will__, what is the name of the program?
[11:09] <ovidiu> By default any modern Linux distributions will have IP Forwarding disabled.how can i enable on ubuntu!1 mil $ question
[11:09] <ortsvorsteher> yehia, try "touch ~/.fluxbox/styles/testfile"
[11:10] <will__> XML animated background creator 0.6
[11:10] <aperson> will__, no, I need the name of the executable
[11:10] <llutz> yehia: according to your imagebin you try to move it to /usr/share/fluxbox, not to ~/.fluxbox
[11:10] <llutz> yehia: so you told us s..t all the time
[11:10] <will__> that would be the zip name right
[11:10] <will__> what the zip file is labeled?
[11:10] <llutz> yehia: have you ever read that error-mesg?
[11:10] <aperson> will__, how did you install it?
[11:10] <infecto> hmm
[11:10] <ortsvorsteher> llutz, good idea :)
[11:10] <will__> from gnome eye candy
[11:11] <linuxlurker> llutz, does he have hidden files showing in his gui?
[11:11] <will__> can give you the direct link if you want it
[11:11] <yehia> ortversteher, i did but nothing happend
[11:11] <llutz> linuxlurker: no,
[11:11] <aperson> will__, that's where you got it from, I need to know the steps you took to install it
[11:11] <linuxlurker> llutz, he might be able to see it as an option
[11:11] <will__> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/XML+animated+background+creator?content=118074
[11:11] <will__> o ok
[11:11] <llutz> linuxlurker: no,
[11:11] <will__> well i downloaded it
[11:11] <infecto> hardware drivers is telling me that i`m using nvidia 180 driver
[11:11] <ortsvorsteher> yehia, do what llutz told you, <llutz> yehia: according to your imagebin you try to move it to /usr/share/fluxbox, not to ~/.fluxbox
[11:11] <aperson> !who | will
[11:11] <infecto> but glxinfo says other, that i`m not
[11:11] <will__> then it said to extract, i did, click install.sh
   OK
[11:12] <aperson> will__, just a second then
[11:12] <will__> it installed through terminal, then the wallpaper went black, my appearance settings wont let me change themes, background wont show up
[11:12] <will__> k
[11:12] <will__> thanks
[11:12] <ortsvorsteher> !enter | will__
[11:12] <llutz> yehia: "tar xzf /path/to/Nasa.tar.gz -C ~/.fluxbox/styles"  would have worked, so you don't have tried it. why do you waste our time here?
[11:13] <will__> ok how do you avoid enter key
[11:13] <yehia> llutz, do you want to see if what you said is working or not ???????
[11:14] <aperson> will__, by keeping your replies to one line
[11:14] <aperson> will__, what language did you pick?
[11:14] <will__> yea im tired, sorry just got it
[11:14] <DasEi> ardchoille: can I see you for a moment in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[11:14] <will__> i picked english, then it led to select time between pictures, i selected 5 seconds, and then selected 5 seconds for animations, that was it, it said completed
[11:15] <aperson> will__, I just needed the language, thanks, I'll have a line to remove it for you in a second
[11:15] <will__> ok thank you very much, however if i remove it will my desktop return normal to before
[11:16] <aperson> will__, all you should have to do after you remove it is change your wallpaper
[11:16] <yehia> llutz , i i have tried all what you mention up here .... and nothing changed ... look at that .     http://pastebin.com/xr4L4hhG
[11:16] <will__> well as it is now i cannot right click desktop, it does nothing when i right click
[11:17] <yehia> llutz, so do i waste your time still.... ?   well if i wasted it - then sorry
[11:17] <llutz> yehia: you're kidding, aren't you? "/path/to"   has to be replaced by the corrct path
[11:17] <ginbuntu> how to update my system in the konsole?
[11:17] <ortsvorsteher> have fun
[11:17] <DasEi> ginbuntu: sudo apt-get update , same for upgrade
[11:17] <aperson> will__, also, fwiw, make sure you know just what you're installing from gnome-look, and try to install .deb files only until you can have an idea how to undo things like this :)
[11:18] <yehia> llutz , ok i will do this  again with the your correction - it seems iam very stupid
[11:18] <XimDev> when will we have the new pidgin in ubuntu repositories?
[11:19] <will__> yea i was under the impression that there would be better instructions in the zip and that it would as IT SAYS create a animated wallpaper
[11:19] <indus> XimDev, in lucid lynx
[11:19] <indus> XimDev, new versions dont make it to current releases
[11:20] <aperson> will__, gnome-look is not a trusted source for software, use it at your own .  I'll be right back
[11:20] <infecto> hmm
[11:20] <will__> ok
[11:20] <DasEi> XimDev: on your own risk can add deleoper ppa to your sources
[11:20] <infecto> can i paste 7 lines?
[11:20] <kikky> so i have grub2 installed in ubuntu, but the live cd has grub - can i still restore the grub2
[11:20] <llutz> !paste | infecto
[11:21] <yehia> llutz, last trial before i show you the result again .... the file which i want to extract is located on my desktop .. can you give me the full command that you think its the correct command please ?
[11:21] <infecto> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/BmKFsQip
[11:21] <eps> ohai
[11:21] <infecto> can some one explain me this? :)
[11:21] <yehia> llutz , consider it that last mint of wasting your time please
[11:21] <kikky> need help figuring the grub loader
[11:21] <llutz> yehia: i don't have gnome here, try "tar xzf ~/Desktop/Nasa.tar.gz -C ~/.fluxbox/styles"
[11:21] <DasEi> kikky: not just like that, you could install grub2 in live, but it's easier to get a fitting cd
[11:22] <srini> Ubuntu gives All softwares are free... Is there any profit for them?
[11:22] <llutz> yehia: i hope thats the path to desktop
[11:22] <indus> infecto, probably havent removed the older drivers
[11:22] <kikky> i will try installing grub2 in live
[11:22] <ortsvorsteher> !ot | srini
[11:22] <DasEi> kikky: if it's a repair, chroot could work (if all needs are found)
[11:22] <infecto> indus: done, works :)
[11:22] <eps> in sound preferences i can't seem to tell ubuntu to output all sound in mono
[11:22] <indus> ok
[11:22] <eps> i am deaf in one ear so i would really like to be able to do this
[11:23] <eps> google is not helping either
[11:23] <srini> ubottu: sorry this is my doubt only
[11:23] <kikky> dasei when ever my pc loads, it ends up with a grub shell
[11:23] <yehia> llutz, here is the result    yehia@yehia:~$ tar xzf ~/Desktop/Nasa.tar.gz -C ~/.fluxbox/styles
[11:23] <yehia> yehia@yehia:~$
[11:23] <Zet> is DDR2 memory compatible with motherboards that say they take DDR3?
[11:23] <kikky> and i dont know what to do
[11:23] <kikky> i dont see ubunut or win7
[11:23] <nemiro> Zet, usually no
[11:23] <DasEi> kikky: grub or initshell ?
[11:23] <nemiro> Zet, there were some motherboards made that supported both
[11:23] <indus> eps, you cant with that volume control
[11:23] <indus> eps, use alsamixer and try
[11:24] <kikky> dasei it is grub , the prompt is Grub>
[11:24] <DasEi> kikky: al right
[11:24] <kikky> dasei there is a recovery page help, but that looks like it is only for grub
[11:24] <kikky> not grub2
[11:24] <DasEi> kikky: is it the only os on the system ?
[11:24] <DasEi> !grub2
[11:25] <kikky> nop, i have win7 and ubuntu
[11:25] <eps> how do i do it in alsamixer, the man page doesn't tell me
[11:25] <yehia> llutz, the permission is still for the root owner .. not for the user owner .. the file cant be extracted into the Director which iam aiming to - the permission is denied ... am I still not knowing how to work with it ???  am I still wasting your time the way or another ?
[11:26] <DasEi> kikky: easies will then be follow above link and get a karmic-live cd and re-install it, the newer supergrubdiscs for grub2 arre sayn to fail often
[11:26] <indus> eps, 1 sec
[11:26] <will__> your still working right aperson
[11:26] <kikky> dasei u mean reinstall ubuntu or just the grub_
[11:26] <llutz> yehia: sudo chown -R yehia:yehia ~/.fluxbox
[11:27] <DasEi> kikky: just the grub, of course
[11:28] <DasEi> kikky: you are on your running win or ubunut now ?
[11:28] <indus> eps, amixer has some options
[11:28] <kikky> live cd  dasei
[11:28] <kikky> i cant boot any
[11:28] <hellyeah> hey
[11:28] <indus> eps, not alsamixer, amixer
[11:28] <kikky> its frustrating
[11:28] <hellyeah> are there anyone who use envy
[11:28] <kikky> and i cant burn anther disk right away
[11:28] <yehia> llutz, now it asked me for my password and then nothing
[11:28] <DasEi> kikky: I see, which version of ubuntu ?
[11:29] <eps> indus: ahh cool, thanks ;)
[11:29] <kikky> live cd is 8.04 but installed on the drive is karmic
[11:29] <llutz> yehia: "nothin" = worked
[11:29] <indus> eps, it works? or also see this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1049371    good luck
[11:29] <DasEi> kikky: or you could install grub, if you have no reason for grub2
[11:30] <zykes-> anyone know of any kind of management tools for dhcp ?
[11:30] <zykes-> aka QIP
[11:30] <kikky> dasei guess that would be okay too
[11:30] <kikky> i can again upgrade later, if only i could boot up ubuntu
[11:30] <DasEi> kikky: right, so go ahead :
[11:30] <DasEi> !grub
[11:30] <kikky> dasei now from live cd, could i install grub on the partition - which already has grub2
[11:31] <yirc178> Hello, World!
[11:31] <DasEi> kikky: yes, have you got an empty usb stick ?
[11:31] <yirc178> Can someone read this?
[11:31] <kikky> dasei ya
[11:31] <DasEi> yirc178: yes
[11:31] <kikky> dasei here is the error i get
[11:31] <kikky> grub-probe: error: Cannot open `/boot/grub/device.map'
[11:31] <kikky> [: 494: =: unexpected operator
[11:32] <yirc178> Thanks, then my raw PHP irc client works :)
[11:32] <yehia> llutz. still i dont have permission to do any thing to this folder ....
[11:32] <Zet> so yeah, my computer runs without crashing with either 2GB stick installed
[11:32] <DasEi> kikky: it's not needed really, but you could then also backup current (corrupt) mbr on it
[11:32] <kikky> dasei when trying ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/disk-2 /dev/sda1
[11:32] <Zet> so the problem is in the motherboard
[11:33] <jasonmchristos> how do i change the password of my default keyring?
[11:33] <kikky> is that a syntax error_
[11:33] <llutz> yehia: are you sure you're using the right folder? i doubt that
[11:34] <DasEi> kikky: that doesn't look right for grub, it's one partition for root, identified hd(x,y)
[11:34] <llutz> yehia: that imagebin error pointed to /usr/share/firefox, do you still try doing things there?
[11:34] <BapinUx> Hello world
[11:34] <yehia> ok llutz. kill yout doubt by looking at my picture which i sent and guide me the wat you see
[11:34] <yehia> yessssss llutz.
[11:35] <llutz> yehia: /usr/share/fluxbox IS NOT ~/.fluxbox
[11:35] <kasama> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1762-hm-eroeffnet-neue-filiale/76/
[11:35] <kasama> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1762-hm-eroeffnet-neue-filiale/76/
[11:35] <FloodBot2> kasama: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:36] <kasama> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1762-hm-eroeffnet-neue-filiale/76/
[11:36] <kasama> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1762-hm-eroeffnet-neue-filiale/76/
[11:36] <FloodBot2> kasama: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:36] <DasEi> kikky: terminal open in live cd ?
[11:36] <yehia> llutz. yesssss and still no chance
[11:36] <kikky> dasei ya
[11:36] <madjoe> kick ban ignore?
[11:36] <DasEi> kikky: sudo grub
[11:36] <kikky> oh! thats the prompt i get when it boots up
[11:37] <will__> hey a person, was you able to manage a command line
[11:37] <ginbuntu> what is the fastest chip I can buy for socket LGA775?
[11:37] <llutz> yehia: "yessss" what? that you're working in the wrong folder?
[11:37] <DasEi> kikky: find /boot/grub/stage1
[11:37] <nemiro> ginbuntu, depends what you want to do with it
[11:37] <DasEi> kikky: shouldn't be found, that's for grub1
[11:37] <aperson> will__, sorry, I just got back, I'm examining the script and working on it now
[11:37] <ginbuntu> nemiro, encoding, encryption, compression, multipedia, play hd movies
[11:38] <will__> ok had to leave for a minute did not want you to think i wrote off the question
[11:38] <yehia> no llutz. iam working on the folder as you guided me and on the right folder ... if you want to give me the full command . i will do it and i will show you the ouput
[11:38] <nemiro> ginbuntu, then you'll likely want a quad core
[11:38] <nemiro> ginbuntu, if encoding is a big part of it
[11:38] <kikky> dasei how do u even do a cd in this shell_
[11:38] <ginbuntu> nemiro, i know I need a quad core, but which one is the fastest one?
[11:39] <llutz> yehia: your error in imagebin shows a different folder than ~/.fluxbox. so on what folder are you really working?
[11:39] <aperson> will__, for starters, can you open up a terminal?
[11:39] <will__> yes
[11:39] <yehia> usr/share/fluxbox/styles     llutz
[11:39] <aperson> will__, then run sudo rm /usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/xml-background-creator.mo
[11:39] <DasEi> kikky: no cd in grub shell, exit to leave the grub-shell
[11:40] <yehia> llutz. there i want to extract and copy
[11:40] <nemiro> ginbuntu, how much do you want to spend?
[11:40] <madjoe> is GK in gksudo short for "graphic kit", or something?
[11:40] <llutz> yehia: that IS NO ~/.fluxbox!!
[11:40] <DasEi> kikky: how many drives does the pc have ?
[11:40] <aperson> will__, then: sudo rm ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/*
[11:40] <yehia> llutz, i know
[11:40] <will__> it says no such file or directory
[11:40] <ginbuntu> nemiro, money is not a problem
[11:40] <kikky> dasei 2 separate dirives, drive 1 has 2 partitions with ubu and win
[11:40] <aperson> will__, I'm sorry, remove the e off of locale
[11:40] <yehia> llutz, give me the full command which you see that its right
[11:41] <will__> o ok
[11:41] <DasEi> kikky: sudo fdisk -l , which is the system drive, sda or sdb ?
[11:41] <aperson> will__, wait, you said that doesn't exist? that should be right according to the script
[11:42] <kikky> dasei /dev/sda1               1       16846   135315463+  83  Linux
[11:42] <neil_d> I am trying to get apt-proxy but something is wrong... I am using a KVM vm with a proxy setup.. but the minimal iso "failed to download a file"
[11:42] <Paulo39> hi, i have a friend who is trying to install karmic in a vaio and he tells me that after the initial menu (where he choose install) he gets a black screen and the installation doesn't start
[11:42] <aperson> will__, the second one should still remove the script
[11:43] <will__> ok i removed the e, it says will@will laptop
[11:43] <DasEi> kikky: want to back up current situation case things get worse ?
[11:43] <nemiro> ginbuntu, wish I could say the same.. the Q9550s purports to keep up with lower ends of the i7 series
[11:43] <kikky> dasei sure,
[11:43] <DasEi> kikky: insert empty usb stick
[11:43] <Paulo39> the image of the cd is fine because he has installed on other pcs
[11:43] <aperson> will__, did you run: sudo rm ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/* ?
[11:43] <DipSwitch> can you set $GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT to xgfxterm in a etc/defaults/grub or should it be set to xgfxterm by some check in the update-grub?
[11:43] <will__> just ran it
[11:43] <kikky> dasei http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/nuwQp8SJ
[11:44] <aperson> will__, did that run without error?
[11:44] <will__> well i put that command in
[11:44] <nemiro> ginbuntu, without upgrading to i7, the "fastest" (ie. most expensive) Quad core is the Q9650
[11:44] <will__> now it just moved down a line in the terminal, no complete confirmation or anything
[11:44] <DasEi> kikky: usb inserted ?
[11:45] <kikky> dasei i m searcing , just a sec
[11:45] <aperson> will__, then it ran without error, that should have removed the script then
[11:45] <ginbuntu> nemiro, is the i7 faster than the Q9650?
[11:45] <DipSwitch> ginbuntu y
[11:45] <nemiro> ginbuntu, the i7 series is indeed faster. It is a new socket
[11:45] <will__> yea i repasted that line hit enter and it said no such file or directory hence it must have been removed correct
[11:45] <rioch> I've created two partitions during the installation for music and photos, but when I try to copy files to them, it says I don't have permissions. How can I correct this?
[11:46] <nemiro> ginbuntu, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_i7
[11:46] <DipSwitch> nemiro the speed of a processor is not defined by it's socket...
[11:46] <nemiro> DipSwitch, I understand that
[11:46] <nemiro> DipSwitch, in this case, the speed comes from the newer architecture
[11:46] <DipSwitch> oke oke ^^
[11:46] <aperson> will__, yessir, can you access appearance now?
[11:47] <nemiro> DipSwitch, I mentioned it because he asked about LGA775 to begin with :D
[11:47] <will__> no
[11:47] <DipSwitch> ah nvm me then, hides back in the dark corners of the channel ^^
[11:47] <will__> right click on desktop does nothing, so does system-pref-appearance
[11:48] <DasEi> kikky: it's not really needed, as it's messed up anyway, but o'course there are some recent info for a possible recovery there
[11:48] <Pirate_Hunter> can anyone suggest an app online that allows synchronised online presentation or even groups to work together, something with more flexibility than google docs?
[11:48] <DipSwitch> can you set $GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT to xgfxterm in a etc/defaults/grub or should it be set to xgfxterm by some check in the update-grub?
[11:48] <DasEi> Pirate_Hunter: ubuntu-one ?
[11:49] <will__> would it help if i shown you the exact site where the file came from, maybe you can see if it is for a different distro or perhaps the terminal line does not match the file to be removed
[11:49] <DasEi> !ubuntu-one > Pirate_Hunter
[11:49] <DipSwitch> nvm i guess gfxboot would do the trick i think
[11:50] <DipSwitch> no it doesn't :@
[11:50] <jimmy_> lol
[11:50] <aperson> will__, can you can you try: sudo find /usr/share/locale/ -name xml-background-creator.mo -delete
[11:50] <rioch> I've created two partitions during the installation for music and photos, but when I try to copy files to them, it says I don't have permissions. How can I correct this?
[11:50] <DasEi> rioch: own them to the normal user
[11:50] <neil_d> I am trying to get apt-proxy but something is wrong... I am using a KVM vm with a proxy setup.. but the minimal iso "failed to download a file"
[11:50] <kikky> dasei cant find it when i need it, can it be backed up in sdb_
[11:51] <Pirate_Hunter> DasEi, not exactly what I was looking for but will check it out
[11:51] <jimmy_> Hello anyone,i want to go on onionpedo but i cant install tor and firefox on ubuntu.Can anyone help?
[11:51] <rioch> DasEi, will that get picked up everytime it's mounted?
[11:51] <will__> it moved down to the next line with that code
[11:51] <DasEi> kikky: it's not really needed, as it's messed up anyway, but o'course there are some recent info for a possible recovery there
[11:51] <DasEi> rioch: yes, unless you specified other in fstab
[11:51] <will__> obviously that was without error
[11:51] <infecto> hmm
[11:52] <kikky> where dasei
[11:52] <jasonmchristos> how do i change the password of my default keyring?
[11:52] <will__> however still cannot access appearance pref's
[11:52] <DasEi> rioch: from your user account : sudo chown -R  $USER /path/to/photos
[11:52] <erUSUL> jasonmchristos: Apalications>accesories>keys and passwords (or something similar)
[11:52] <aperson> will__,  what did you put for the name of nautilus dialog?
[11:53] <DasEi> kikky: in the mbr, we will now overwrite with grub
[11:53] <erUSUL> jasonmchristos: first tab. right click on login. choose change password
[11:53] <kikky> dasei sounds exciting! if i mess up, I wont be losing my win or ubu , right_
[11:53] <jasonmchristos> erUSUL: wont that change my login password instaed?
[11:53] <erUSUL> jasonmchristos: no
[11:54] <DasEi> kikky:no, just the mbr, can still acces al files and also have further atemmpts/possibiliteies;  sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[11:54] <katesmith> i was wondering is this anygood?
[11:54] <will__> nautilus dialog, i put nothing, it had a name stored in it already i just left it what it was, if im right it was create animated background or creat xml background
[11:54] <will__> something of that such
[11:55] <kikky> dasei should it be sda1
[11:55] <DasEi> Pirate_Hunter: need to provide more details on what you want
[11:55] <katesmith> is this good to use, and is it still something that you cant get viruses from?
[11:55] <katesmith> http://wubi-installer.org/
[11:55] <DasEi> kikky: no, that won't be mbr
[11:55] <will__> ive noticed when i went to hidden files in gnome2-nautilus the nautilus folder is empty where the INSTALL.SH used to be
[11:55] <katesmith> i am wondering about that
[11:55] <kikky> dasei, ok, gives me grub prompt
[11:55] <rioch> DasEi, thanks
[11:56] <katesmith> if i install that is it any good ?  http://wubi-installer.org/
[11:56] <aperson> will__, the script deleted that
[11:56] <jimmy_> Hello anyone,i want to go on onionpedo but i cant install tor and firefox on ubuntu.Can anyone help?
[11:56] <aperson> katesmith, you never could get viruses from it
[11:56] <jasonmchristos> ubuntuONE keeps asking me to add my computer when i connect and it will never connect it just asks me over and over
[11:56] <will__> understood, meaning it should work prop now, however it does not, could it be i have to restart laptop
[11:57] <will__> maybe log off-back on
[11:57] <Pirate_Hunter> DasEi, create a presentation that I need to show to someone, however, they should be able to contribute directly, this will be done online. Used to know a site that was working on a similar project but after going through my bookmarks I can't find it, well if no alternative comes up will use g docs instead
[11:57] <Logicwax> hrmmm  any ideas on why byobu reports my new i7 chip as "1.6GHZ" when it should be 2.66ghz?
[11:57] <aperson> will__, I had you delete both things that the script added, I'd say it's worth a shot to log out
[11:57] <aperson> Logicwax, it's scaled down
[11:57] <zus> is this no longer available https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LookingGlass#Install%20from%20command%20line
[11:57] <DasEi> Pirate_Hunter: I see, or need to setup an own server
[11:57] <aperson> Logicwax, under load, it should go back up
[11:57] <will__> ok, will give it a try
[11:58] <snow_ru> hi
[11:58] <snow_ru> hi
[11:58] <DasEi> kikky: you are in a boot prompt again ?
[11:58] <DasEi> (grub)
[11:58] <kikky> ya
[11:58] <Pirate_Hunter> DasEi, grrr don't wish to set it up on my server there are many apps that can help me but... looking into something that runs online by someone
[11:58] <kikky> that install line took m et there
[11:58] <Logicwax> aperson: oh does this have to do with power scaling?
[11:58] <snow_ru> any one use ubuntu here ?
[11:58] <aperson> Logicwax, cpu scaling, yes
[11:59] <Logicwax> ah gotcha
[11:59] <ne1> sound is not coming from acer aspire 4736z machine
[11:59] <zus> is this no longer available https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LookingGlass#Install%20from%20command%20line
[11:59] <snow_ru> nel do you use ubuntu ?
[11:59] <aperson> Logicwax, if you want to test it, you can run a bunch of glxgears
[11:59] <snow_ru> zus, ?
[11:59] <root51> how stable  is ubuntu karmic?
[11:59] <snow_ru> root51, ?
[11:59] <root51> ubuntu karmic is stable?
[11:59] <aperson> snow_ru, this is #ubuntu, I'm sure the majority runs it :
[11:59] <rsk> !stable
[11:59] <snow_ru> anyone use google-chrome here ? I can not open pdf directly in the browser !
[11:59] <root51> k
[11:59] <Logicwax> I also built a brand new computer, and xfered my ubuntu install to another HDD.   the same problem is there, so I know this is not a hardware issue
[12:00] <Logicwax> I got a problem where my computer just freezes on the ubuntu logo upon bootup.  no HDD activity or anything.  just locks up.  it takes about 4-5 reboots until ubuntu boots regular again.
[12:00] <aperson> snow_ru, you need an extension for that
[12:00] <snow_ru> aperson, which one ?
[12:00] <aperson> snow_ru, I don't know what all 1400+ users in here run
[12:00] <root51> any wifi in karmic
[12:00] <Logicwax> im just lookin for places to look....like any logs or anything
[12:00] <aperson> root51, your best bet is to try and see
[12:00] <snow_ru> ok
[12:01] <snow_ru> google-chrome doesn't open the pdf !!!
[12:01] <DasEi> kikky: setup (hd0,0)
[12:01] <root51> im try to download wifislax
[12:01] <aperson> snow_ru, your best bet is to search the extension gallery and find one you like
[12:01] <kikky> gives me unrecognized command dasei
[12:01] <neil_d> I am trying to get apt-proxy but something is wrong... I am using a KVM vm with a proxy setup.. but the minimal iso "failed to download a file"... as far as I can tell there is only 1 file in the 'pool' directories.
[12:02] <kikky> now invalid device request dasei
[12:02] <tyro> what wrong with my xiphos (bible learning reogram):__   (xiphos:3085): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_cursor: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed
[12:02] <tyro> Segmentation fault
[12:02] <root51> what u see is what u get
[12:02] <tyro> how to wolve it?
[12:02] <DasEi> kikky: paste the last few line of terminal
[12:03] <tyro> how to solve this problem
[12:03] <kikky> dasei http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/DAHGTXbd
[12:03] <will__> well aperson
[12:03] <will__> mission failure
[12:03] <bdfoster> I've got a problem where in the middle of my session it shuts off my USB ports. it is somewhat sparatic and when I unplug the flashdrive and plug it back in no power goes to it
[12:04] <aperson> will__, well, something else happened that wasn't in the scope of that script
[12:04] <bdfoster> any ideas?
[12:04] <will__> is it possible the script may still exist and the animation it is creating is masking anything opening or laying on the desktop
[12:05] <dr3mro> my karmic fresh install network sharing is not working ... I cant share files when i share them they dont appear on network and my ubuntu is not visible on network and i can see other computers even i can acces thm by smb://ip i use karmic with all updates
[12:05]  * OpaH is trying to use an IPv6 connection for IRC. Various IPv6 hosts are 'ping6able' but I can't reach them on port 6667. This box here is ubuntu 9.10 with a working IPv6 stack. - any takers?
[12:06] <robinsmidsrod> rotem: no, I'm not very fluent with objdump, but I seem to recall that the -X or -x parameter gives a lot of info
[12:06] <kikky> dasei gtg, thanks for your help,  so is the easiest way to burn a grub2 in a disk and boot_
[12:06] <dr3mro> when i $sudo dpkg-reconfigure  samba |||||||||| i get  sed: -e expression #1, char 140: unknown option to `s'
[12:07]  * robinsmidsrod is not a C wizard
[12:07] <will__> well aperson, i appreciate everything done to this point, however ive got this feeling im going to need a system reinstall
[12:07] <Myrtti> OpaH: you could always ask help on network help channels, in this network it's #freenode
[12:07] <aperson> will__, can you run gnome-appearance-preferences in a terminal?
[12:07] <will__> possibly
[12:07] <will__> do you have a command line for that
[12:07] <aperson> will__, just open up a terminal and enter that in
[12:07]  * OpaH thanks Myrtti
[12:07] <aperson> will__, what I need is the output of that
[12:08] <GutZuWiSSeN> hi, is it possible to send messages with ctrl + enter with empathy?
[12:08] <will__> says command not found
[12:09] <aperson> will__, I'm sorry again, properties, not preferences
[12:09] <will__> ok
[12:09] <dr3mro> my karmic fresh install network sharing is not working ... I cant share files when i share them they dont appear on network and my ubuntu is not visible on network and i can see other computers even i can acces thm by smb://ip i use karmic with all updates
[12:09] <dr3mro> when i $sudo dpkg-reconfigure  samba |||||||||| i get  sed: -e expression #1, char 140: unknown option to `s'
[12:10] <will__> Segmentation fault
[12:10] <will__> as it says
[12:10] <aperson> will__, that's all?
[12:10] <will__> it opens the appearance pref's for about 1 second then closes automatically
[12:11] <CodyLanez> http://imgnow.info/DSC-1268309083.jpg do my tits look big?
[12:11] <r57> any tutorial on dual boot with full partition encryption (ubuntu one) i can't manage to create manually the partitions with lvm and encrypted and after i install the system to ubuntu
[12:11] <will__> its as if something is making a force-quit on the appearance pref's
[12:11] <r57> can anybody point me to some tutorial or smt
[12:12] <LaeTo> Hello
[12:12] <CodyLanez> http://imgnow.info/DSC-1268309138.jpg do my tits look big?
[12:12] <LaeTo> If I export the DISPLAY to some other machine then all the GUI will appear-up for that display. Right ?
[12:12] <aperson> will__, ok, just a second...
[12:12] <will__> ok
[12:14] <bdfoster> !ohmy | CodyLanez
[12:14] <jasonmchristos> ubuntuONE keeps asking me to add my computer when i connect and it will never connect it just asks me over and over, what should i do?
[12:14] <aperson> will__, can you run: gconftool-2 --type=string --set /desktop/gnome/background/picture_options none
[12:15] <will__> run in terminal or alt+f2
[12:15] <aperson> will__, a terminal. your wallpaper should disappear
[12:15] <will__> my wallpaper been gone its a black screen but ok one second
[12:16] <aperson> will__, well, this should clear what was supposed to be set for your wallpaper
[12:16] <will__> it moved down one line without errors
[12:16] <aperson> will__, now try opening up gnome-appearance-properties again
[12:19] <will__> ok appearance opens but still not wallpaper
[12:19] <aperson> will__, you should be able to change your wallpaper from there
[12:20] <will__> can change the theme, the cursors and all but when i try changing wallpaper does not show up
[12:20] <AcerExtensa> nickserv
[12:20] <DipSwitch> lucid for ubuntu is like sid for debian?
[12:20] <will__> still all black screen
[12:20] <AcerExtensa> #nickserv
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> DipSwitch:  lucid is in alphatestign right now. Its not quite the same.
[12:20] <iceroot> DipSwitch: every ubuntu is sid (at that date)
[12:20] <DasEi> !lucid | DipSwitch
[12:20] <iceroot> DipSwitch: ubuntu is a sync fromo debian sid with patches
[12:20] <iceroot> DipSwitch: so 9.10 was some months ago, debian sid
[12:21] <Dam0> yes\
[12:21] <aperson> will__, can you select a new wallpaper, even if it doesn't change it?
[12:21] <Dam0> ;p
[12:21] <srini> Repeat mode does not work in ubuntu 9.04?
[12:21] <DipSwitch> kk thanks all
[12:21] <will__> i can select it but it dont chage
[12:21] <will__> change*
[12:21] <will__> stays black
[12:22] <aperson> will__, can you run: gconftool-2 --type=string --set /desktop/gnome/background/picture_options stretched
[12:22] <codygman> would it be recommended to change my servers time to match mine?
[12:22] <codygman> that wouldn't mess anything up.... right?
[12:22] <iceroot> codygman: it is recommend to use the current time on all machines
[12:23] <jrib> codygman: why do you have a different time than your server :)
[12:23] <iceroot> codygman: if you have time-differences there might be problems with samba (winbind) and so on
[12:23] <codygman> because it's located somewhere else lol
[12:23] <codygman> i got it from rackspace :P
[12:23] <iceroot> codygman: you mean timezone
[12:23] <will__> moved down one line is all
[12:23] <codygman> yeah
[12:23] <will__> no change
[12:24] <iceroot> codygman: i would use the local timezone on all machines
[12:24] <srini> Repeat mode does not work in totem why?
[12:24] <yirctest> Hello, are there drivers for ATI Radeon graphics cards out there now?
[12:24] <will__> would it hurt to remove nautilus entirely
[12:24] <jrib> codygman: use whatever timezone you want, it doesn't have to be physically in that timezone to make sense really.  The time is the same (utc), your just representing it differently (different time zone).  It's like using ft instead of cm
[12:24] <iceroot> srini: that is not a good error-description
[12:24] <iceroot> !ati | yirctest
[12:24] <yirctest> !ati
[12:24] <jrib> you're, ugh
[12:25] <codygman> haha alright.. thanks.. i'm pretty new to having my own server.. so just wanting to make sure
[12:25] <yirctest> thanks
[12:25] <srini> iceroot: may i know what is repeat mode?
[12:25] <iceroot> srini: and i dont know what the problem is
[12:25] <aperson> will__, nautilus is not the problem
[12:25] <indus> srini, repeats tracks
[12:25] <indus> srini, plays again once finished
[12:25] <napster> Can anyone help me to fix my functional keys?
[12:26] <will__> dont suppose another restart would work?
[12:26] <aperson> will__, not yet
[12:26] <srini> indus: its working for 30 mins or 45 mins.. after that it will be stop...
[12:26] <CodyLanez> http://imgnow.info/DSC-1268310005.jpg do my tits look big?
[12:26] <Nexlog> #ubuntu-br
[12:26] <rodfersou> hi everyone
[12:27] <rodfersou> I'm trying to add this script to boot with my machine http://paste.pocoo.org/show/188330/
[12:27] <aperson> will__, can you run: gconftool-2 --type=string --set /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename /usr/share/backgrounds/Bay.jpg
[12:27] <rodfersou> I use the sudo update-rc.d configupdater-client defaults
[12:27] <rodfersou> and it don't work..
[12:28] <rodfersou> can someone please help me?
[12:28] <Goendi> I'm using a Samsung syncmaster 2343nw. I am not able however to change my resolution to anything bigger then 800/600. Is it the driver? And if so, is there an existing fix?
[12:28] <rodfersou> after boot it works when I call /etc/init.d/configupdater-client start ....
[12:28] <will__> notta, zip zero nothin
[12:29] <will__> im debating on a reinstall of ubuntu
[12:29] <rodfersou> I tried to look for boot startup log, but I can't...
[12:29] <DasEi> Goendi: which g-card ?
[12:29] <will__> only thing i can think if is when it installed it changed a parameter somewhere
[12:30] <rodfersou> someone know how to look ubuntu boot log?
[12:30] <aperson> will__, we're changing those now
[12:30] <DasEi> rodfersou: gedit /var/log/syslog
[12:30] <aperson> will__, that script wasn't very well written
[12:30] <indus> Goendi, depends on the graphics card
[12:31] <rodfersou> DasEi, I did a cd /var/log; grep -inr configupdater-client *
[12:31] <rodfersou> DasEi, and my script is not listed during boot...
[12:31] <jasonmchristos> ubuntuONE keeps asking me to add my computer when i connect and it will never connect it just asks me over and over, what should i do?
[12:31] <Luis_> Hi I have created some users with no-login parameter, but now I want one of them to be able to log in. How can I change that?
[12:31] <will__> aperson, would it help to see my system log, see what was changed today?
[12:31] <will__> regarding the download and install
[12:31] <Goendi> DasEi / indus, I used two of them
[12:32] <Goendi> not sure which one exactly, they ain't that new
[12:32] <dehqan> ~/.dmrc permission has been changed , how am trying to chmod 644 it but bash gives error that can not run excutes ...
[12:32] <Goendi> I can go buy a new one, I don't mind
[12:32] <iceroot> Luis_: change the loginshell in /etc/passwd  to /bin/bash   or use usermod (man usermod)
[12:32] <aperson> will__, sorry, lost power for a second there
[12:33] <Luis_> ty iceroot , gonna check it out
[12:33] <will__> yea i was saying would it help to see my system log
[12:33] <napster> Can anyone help me to fix my functional keys TOSHIBA LAPTOP?
[12:33] <DasEi> rodfersou: how do you start it ? upstart or rc.local ?
[12:33] <will__> see what has been changed before and after the install.sh
[12:33] <aperson> will__, no, that script doesn't log anything
[12:33] <will__> ok
[12:33] <DasEi> Goendi: nah, just find out, sudo lspci | grep vga
[12:33] <rodfersou> DasEi, I don't know... it's ubuntu 9.04.... something changed?
[12:34] <will__> well i have a feeling i could use a fresh start, just use the ubuntu cd and install my selected files
[12:34] <NatGirl> hi! i'm using ubuntu 9.10 with gnome, and I'd like to know if there is a way to turn off the "tips" on gnome. Like when I put the mouse on the close button of the windows it shows a yellow tip saying "close window". Can I turn it off?
[12:34] <aperson> will__, I'm sorry I'm apparently not being very helpful
[12:34] <DasEi> rodfersou: you said you want that script running at boottime, so where from do you call it ?
[12:34] <will__> its not your fault
[12:34] <will__> im always downloading something, maybe i should try to download common sense, but question one more
[12:35] <will__> i want to save compiz settings
[12:35] <rodfersou> DasEi, I add my script at /etc/init.d folder and run the command update-rc.d <script> defaults
[12:35] <aperson> will__, that, I can help you with
[12:35] <rodfersou> AFFE
[12:35] <rainer_> hi to all
[12:35] <AlienDK> hi
[12:35] <aperson> will__, any other settings you want to keep?
[12:35] <rainer_> can anyone hel me with my samba configuration??
[12:35] <rodfersou> DasEi, I add my script at /etc/init.d folder and run the command update-rc.d <script> defaults
[12:36] <will__> when i try to export compiz settings, it exports them to my folder but when i try to open them in the folder it opens in text format, when i try to open in compiz  it wont show up in my folder
[12:36] <DasEi> rodfersou: k
[12:36] <datacrusher> rainer_,  paste your samba.conf
[12:36] <will__> its as if its saving but when i go to reinstall the settings, the saved file is not compatible with compiz no more
[12:36] <will__> know why?
[12:36] <rumpsy> Hi, i'm  a home user and i'm not having administrative functions, so can i able to install any docklet applicaions
[12:36] <rodfersou> DasEi, the main problem is that if I change my script to a simple bash script it don't work too....
[12:36] <rainer_> iĺl do one mom pls
[12:36] <aperson> will__, how are you exporting the settings?
[12:37] <will__> let me see gotta walk through again
[12:37] <rodfersou> DasEi, it looks like it is not been called on startup...
[12:37] <rumpsy> !desklets
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  did you install tye system yourself? you are able to use 'sudo' as needed?
[12:37] <rainer_> Here is the config file:
[12:38] <rainer_> [global]
[12:38] <rainer_> netbios name = Rainer
[12:38] <rainer_> server string = Samba file and print server
[12:38] <rainer_> workgroup = Workgroup
[12:38] <rainer_> security = user
[12:38] <FloodBot2> rainer_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:38] <rainer_> hosts allow = 127. 192.168.0.
[12:38] <rainer_> interfaces = <IP_ADDRESS>/8 <IP_ADDRESS>8
[12:38] <will__> i go to compiz fusion-preferences-then there are options such as export under the PROFILE tab
[12:38] <rumpsy> Dr_Willis: This not my system , this is an office system.. and i'm not a sudo user
[12:38] <rumpsy> Dr_Willis: Is there is any way to install that ? :(
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  most of those various applet tools let you install addational applets as a user. in the users home dir. What applet system are you using?
[12:39] <rumpsy> Dr_Willis: i donno, gnome
[12:40] <will__> i just exported it, it exports as a text document. shouldnt it be a executable file or similar
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  you need to be more clear on what you are trying todo exactly.
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  i dont even know what you are trying to 'install'
[12:40] <aperson> will__, nope most configuration settings are text files
[12:40] <rumpsy> Dr_Willis: i want to install docklets, its like gdesklets or rocketdock
[12:40] <will__> so when i reboot all i have to do is access compiz then open the text file through compiz?
[12:41] <NatGirl> hi! i'm using ubuntu 9.10 with gnome, and I'd like to know if there is a way to turn off the "tips" on gnome. Like when I put the mouse on the close button of the windows it shows a yellow tip saying "close window". Can I turn it off?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  you could compile the source and keep it in your users home dir. If you dont have permissions to install system wide things
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  theres alternative ways to get desktop 'widgits' also. Opera can do widgits. as can google-desktop
[12:41] <DasEi> rodfersou: that should work in 9.04, as it still got an initab, if the script itself is fine, idk
[12:42] <Mikerhinos> hi
[12:42] <will__> sent a screenshot of it
[12:42] <rumpsy> Dr_Willis: or its also called as awn, avant window navigator
[12:42] <aperson> will__, upload it to imgur.com , I always have troubles with dcc
[12:42] <will__> ok
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  if you cant install stuff system wide as a admin user. You must basically compile the stuff for your own users personal use.
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  if the various dev tools are even installed.
[12:42] <DasEi> rodfersou: does it it superprivileges ?
[12:43] <aperson> will__, my method was to just back up the directory where the configuration was stored and then copy it back when you've reinstalled
[12:43] <DasEi> rodfersou: does it need* superprivileges ?
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  some tools may also have precompile tar.gz packages you could use.
[12:43] <aperson> will__, that's the easiest way to back up all most any of your system's configurations
[12:43] <rumpsy> Dr_Willis: yup i'm searching for that
[12:43] <will__> http://imgur.com/UatYz
[12:43] <rodfersou> DasEi, yes
[12:44] <rodfersou> DasEi, I want it to be run by root...
[12:44] <will__> sorry wrong address
[12:44] <will__> http://imgur.com/UatYz
[12:44] <will__> .png^
[12:44] <aperson> will__, that should work fine then
[12:44] <aperson> will__, just save it to a safe spot
[12:45] <will__> but thats the correct settings correct
[12:45] <rainer_> Hi I've a problem with my samba. After the new release I can't see any of my windows network. Can anybody help me here?
[12:46] <aperson> will__, should be, that'll save your compiz settings .  is that all you're backing up?
[12:46] <will__> that and all the themes i installed, pictures, music, xxms player
[12:46] <will__> cant think of much more
[12:46] <will__> downloads
[12:46] <DasEi> rodfersou: should be , if set by defaults, idk then
[12:47] <will__> by the way do you know how to make a backup cd, not of ubuntu then but ubuntu with what i got in it NOW
[12:47] <will__> a backup cd that also has all MY settings and FILES
[12:47] <rodfersou> DasEi, sorry... I can't understand what you said... what do you mean by "idk" ?
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> will__:  theres tools to do that. But ive not used any in ages. 'mondo/mindi' was one i used a long time ago
[12:47] <rainer_> Hi I've a problem with my samba. After the new release I can't see any of my windows network. Can anybody help me here?
[12:47] <DasEi> rodfersou: I don't know
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> will__:  then theres various fs archiver tools
[12:48] <bazhang> rainer_, new release?
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> will__:  and it will proberly take more then 1 cd. :)
[12:48] <rainer_> yes the new ubuntu
[12:48] <will__> not familiar with archiving, easy?
[12:48] <rodfersou> DasEi, ok... thank you for your help! I'm going to try a bash script instead a python script =]
[12:48] <aperson> will__, if you backup your home folder, hidden files and all, that would essentially back up all of your settings and files
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> will__:  depends on f you mean your 'users' stuff.. vs 'the whole system'
[12:49] <will__> couldnt just drag and drop to cd-r could i
[12:49] <dehqan> ~/.dmrc permission has been changed , am trying to chmod 644 it but bash gives error that can not run excutes ...
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> will__:  it all Depends..
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> dehqan:  if its messed up you can just delete it - it will get remade at next login
[12:49] <aperson> will__, I'd throw it all into a tar.gz first
[12:49] <will__> dont really need the whole system got that already on cd, just evything i downloaded and installed MINUS THAT ANIMATED WALLPAPER
[12:49] <dehqan> Dr_Willis: thanks and how to chroot to non-root user?
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> dehqan:  I think thats what you use the 'su' command for. normally
[12:50] <DasEi> rodfersou: I'm in the beginning of that stuff myself, what worked so far for me was same approach (bash/initab), but from 9.10 upstart is there,, another (older) method is to put in rc.local, though then have to get the su-privilges in, too) or use a cronjob by root
[12:50] <rainer_> Thank you for the help bybyby
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> will__:  copy your stuff from your users HOME to some place else to back it up then
[12:50] <aperson> will__, backing up your home folder wouldn't be backing up your whole system, just your settings and files
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> i have 7gb of Wallpapers in my Home. :)
[12:51] <aperson> will__, and we already pruned that wallpaper crap in your home
[12:51] <dehqan> Dr_Willis: how to chroot to non-root user? su user ?
[12:51] <will__> ok, so select the folder and right click-create archive-tar.gz?
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> dehqan:  yes somthing like that.. when in doubt check the man pages and the --help options for the command
[12:51] <will__> so that wallpaper things in there huh
[12:51] <aperson> will__, nope, pruned = deleted
[12:52] <will__> o kool
[12:52] <aperson> will__, make sure you have hidden files showing
[12:52] <Aiity> OLaaa
[12:52] <will__> ctrl+h then highlight all of it, archive-tar.gz right
[12:52] <aperson> will__, yep
[12:52] <user11> ndian
[12:52] <will__> ok
[12:52] <user11> boooooooooo
[12:52] <CaptainPissweak> Oh hey.
[12:52] <will__> well thank you very much aperson
[12:53] <CaptainPissweak> Didn't even realise this thing auto-opened.
[12:53] <will__> i appreciate your time and help
[12:53] <aperson> will__, no problem
[12:53] <TxPitou> top of the morning to all =]
[12:53] <aperson> will__, be careful with things on gnome-look, wallpapers and themes are fine, but be extra cautious of any scripts or programs
[12:54] <will__> yea never messing with those again
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> will__:  or perhaps learn what you are doing. :)
[12:55] <aperson> will__, it's good to be able to discern just what some of those scripts do :)
[12:55]  * Dr_Willis missed the original problem. but has to run.. bye
[12:55] <rumpsy> Dr_Willis: Got tat, thank you :)
[12:55] <aperson> will__, anyways, best of luck, and I hope your next run will be trouble free
[12:56] <indus> Dr_Willis, bye