[13:40] <ubotu> ThuLex: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:40] <ThuLex> im doing it on another computer...
[13:40] <baxrob> ssn, is there no other OS you can boot to on the system?
[13:40] <Pici> ThuLex: Are you sure that the device is /dev/sdd2?
[13:41] <ikonia> why are we mounting from device names rather than uuid
[13:41] <ThuLex> cos im a noob ikonia
[13:41] <ThuLex> well as much as i can see Pici...
[13:41] <rambo3> uuid is so easy to remember
[13:42] <ThuLex> the name  keeps changing...
[13:42] <Pici> ThuLex: does the output of `mount` say that the mountpoint of /dev/sdd2 is equal to where the usb drive is mounting?
[13:42] <ThuLex> first it was sdb
[13:42] <ThuLex> then it was dd
[13:42] <ThuLex> sd
[13:42] <ThuLex> sdd
[13:42] <ThuLex> now its sda
[13:42] <Pici> !enter | ThuLex
[13:42] <ubotu> ThuLex: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[13:42] <ThuLex> *sde
[13:42] <rambo3> ssn, so your bios doesn't have an option of booting  from flashmemory?
[13:42] <ThuLex> yes typos...
[13:42] <ThuLex> i dont know.. im not trying to mount them Pici
[13:42] <ssn> rambo3: it has a option to boot from ide harddisks
[13:43] <Pici> ThuLex: mount without any options will tell you what is mounted and where
[13:43] <ssn> so it should boot from a fully ata5 compatible flash drive
[13:43] <ssn> there is no difference
[13:43] <ssn> i just need sombody explaining me how to get around the bios telling me what i can boot and what not
[13:44] <ikonia> ssn: your bios is the boss
[13:44] <baxrob> ssn, what is the system? (sorry if this is redundant)
[13:44] <ThuLex> how do i view what is mounted?
[13:44] <Pici> ThuLex: mount
[13:44] <IndikuT> I need a little bit of help, if someone is willing. Pls msg me...
[13:44] <ikonia> ThuLex: you've been told 4 times now
[13:44] <ikonia> IndikuT: just ask the question
[13:46] <ThuLex> meh
[13:46] <IndikuT> Fresh install of Gutsy Server, Can't get restricted drivers, resorted to ndiswrapper for faster speeds... had it working with -generic. Though, with server, I cant get my wifi card loaded. Broadcom 4311 on Dell Inspiron e1705/9400
[13:46] <ThuLex> putting linux on a usb key is almost impossible
[13:47] <ikonia> IndikuT: what the heck are you doing ?? 1.) what did you need out of restricted drivers ? 2. )why do you think ndiswrapper gives you faster speed 3.) why are you installing the server kernel ?
[13:47] <ikonia> ThuLex: no itsn's not
[13:47] <ThuLex> ive followed two tutorials yesterday
[13:47] <ThuLex> neither of them worked
[13:47] <ikonia> ThuLex: yes, but you don't pay attention so I'm not surprised
[13:47] <IndikuT> I went the route of -server, cuz after 3 weeks, couldnt get LAMP going on -generic.
[13:47] <ThuLex> they either froze or came up theres problems with gnome and the user manager
[13:48] <ikonia> IndikuT: the kernel doesn't effect lamp
[13:48] <ThuLex> i read them all ikonia
[13:48] <Andycasss> How do i chmod 755 the subdirs?
[13:48] <levander> I've loaded the xfs kernel module, and I'm going to create a xfs formatted partition in gparted.  But, gparted doesn't give me an xfs option in the filesystem choices.  Anyone know how to get gparted to recognize xfs as an option?
[13:48] <ThuLex> read everything on them
[13:48] <ikonia> ThuLex: you don't pay attention,s o I doubt you did
[13:48] <ThuLex> they still just froze or went wrong
[13:48] <Andycasss> Currently, it only chmods only the main dir but leaves the subdirs untouched
[13:48] <IndikuT> ndiswrapper showed speeds of 54m/s, as per bcm43xx only 24m/s
[13:48] <ikonia> Andycasss: chomod -R
[13:48] <gamed|ph> hi
[13:48] <Andycasss> Thanks
[13:48] <ThuLex> im doing two things a once
[13:48] <ikonia> ThuLex: so ?
[13:48] <ThuLex> im on two computers
[13:48] <ikonia> ThuLex: so ?
[13:48] <ikonia> gamed|ph: hi
[13:48] <ThuLex> its hard to see everyones reply while im doing what the first person suggested
[13:48] <gamed|ph> is there a way to copy only a directory without content but with permissions?
[13:48] <bloodniece> is there a gconf setting to make desktop icons align to the right side of the screen?
[13:48] <Pici> ThuLex: You're confusing us here.
[13:49] <ikonia> gamed|ph: not really, just create an empty dir and chmod it to the write permissions
[13:49] <ThuLex> hm
[13:49] <ThuLex> sorry
[13:49] <ThuLex> i dont mean to be ... anything
[13:49] <ThuLex> im just frustrated
[13:49] <ThuLex> 3 days and i still cant get it to work
[13:49] <IndikuT> Maybe, I should go back to -generic, and rainstall LAMP?
[13:49] <gamed|ph> ikonia: ok thanks, thats the way i do it before *g*
[13:49] <IndikuT> *reinstall
[13:49] <Pici> IndikuT: I suggest that.
[13:49] <ikonia> IndikuT: I suspect your system is a mix match of stuff now
[13:49] <IndikuT> All fresh install... reformats/no partitions
[13:49] <ikonia> IndikuT: ok
[13:50] <IndikuT> :)
[13:50] <Pici> ThuLex: You can ask your questions here, but please just one at a time.
[13:50] <IndikuT> Everything is running smooth as of now, Just, cant get my WiFi going for some reason
[13:50] <ikonia> IndikuT: your system is probably a mix/match
[13:50] <ikonia> IndikuT: re-install using the desktop
[13:50] <ThuLex> ok look, i will start again and see if i can try to read what u all put
[13:51] <ThuLex> i have partitioned my usb key in two partitions, sdf1 and sdf2
[13:51] <bloodniece> is there a gconf setting to make desktop icons align to the right side of the screen?
[13:51] <ThuLex> i can format sdf1
[13:51] <IndikuT> ikonia: Do a fresh install from the -generic ISO?
[13:51] <ikonia> IndikuT: from the "desktop" cd
[13:51] <IndikuT> Gotcha :)
[13:51] <ThuLex> but when i try to format sdf2 it comes up /dev/sdf2 is mounted; will not make a filesystem here!
[13:51] <IndikuT> Be back (But Hopefully not)
[13:51] <ThuLex> but when i umount it it says that the /dev/sdf2 was not mounted...
[13:51] <IndikuT> thanks
[13:52] <Pici> ThuLex: does the output of typing 'mount' on a terminal show that /dev/sdf2 is mounted?
[13:53] <ThuLex> well if i just type mount nothing happens
[13:53] <ThuLex> just another line for me to type in a comman
[13:53] <ThuLex> command
[13:53] <DarKnesS_WolF> i want to add a script to be started when the machine starts it is a bash script .. so how to ?
[13:53] <ikonia> ThuLex: that can't be
[13:53] <Grem> hi!
[13:53] <Pici> !boot > DarKnesS_WolF (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[13:53] <ikonia> DarKnesS_WolF: /etc/init.d is the boot scripts core directory
[13:53] <ikonia> !upstart >DarKnesS_WolF
[13:53] <ikonia> Pici: ahhh better
[13:53] <Snakker> Hello does anyoen know how to get the belkin f5d7050 usb wireless to work in ubuntu i tried ndiswrapper but i dont know how to use it
[13:53] <Pici> ThuLex: Are you typing this in a terminal, or on the alt-f2 'command line'?
[13:54] <ThuLex> terminal
[13:54] <ThuLex> the applications  accessories  terminal
[13:54] <Grem> quick question: on previous ubuntu there was linux-686 and linux-686-smp. I see these aren't on gutsy. I have a dual core laptop and wanted to have the best kernel for my machine
[13:54] <ikonia> Grem: all kernels are smp now
[13:54] <Pici> Grem: the -generic kernel supports smp just fine
[13:54] <Grem> so no fuss about 686?
[13:54] <ikonia> no
[13:54] <gamed|ph> ikonia: you know how I can pass the username to a command in find's -exec?
[13:54] <Grem> the 386 is the best
[13:54] <Grem> ok tks ikonia and Pici
[13:55] <Grem> :)
[13:55] <ikonia> gamed|ph: do you mean for owner
[13:55] <gamed|ph> yes
[13:55] <ThuLex> i just type "mount" in the terminal line right?
[13:55] <Marcusklaas> Cool
[13:55] <Pici> ThuLex: yes,
[13:55] <ikonia> gamed|ph: now sure if you can search on owner, man find and have a look
[13:55] <gamed|ph> need to set the owner for the new dir
[13:55] <Lunks> I'd like to have a 'print' entry on nautilus context menu. Is it possible?
[13:55] <Snakker> Please help me im a noob that would rather die than install windows again just to use the net
[13:55] <ThuLex> nothing happens when I do it..
[13:55] <gamed|ph> no, i don't want to search for it... i want to set the owner for a dir
[13:55] <Pici> ThuLex: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[13:55] <ikonia> Snakker: just ask the question, and there is nothing wrong with windows, so don't be ashamed to use ut
[13:56] <ikonia> gamed|ph: ooh just chown it
[13:56] <n2diy> Lunks: copy and paste to gedit.
[13:56] <rojo^> gamed|ph: $(whoami)
[13:56] <ThuLex> 7.10
[13:56] <ikonia> gamed|ph: -exec chown
[13:56] <gamed|ph> ikonia: yes but i've to give the username to chown?
[13:56] <Lunks> n2diy: Sorry?
[13:56] <Snakker> Well i tried installing my wireless usb dongle on ubuntu but to no avail
[13:56] <ikonia> gamed|ph: -exec chown `whoami`
[13:57] <ciacon> can anyone give me a hint on how I can use mplayer to play some mp3s out of a Folder+Subdirs???
[13:57] <Snakker> i have followed the forum instructions but i might have made mistakes
[13:57] <ErEtZuM> hello
[13:57] <DarKnesS_WolF> i want to add a script to be started when the machine starts it is a bash script .. so how to ? and i did add it to the rc.local but still not working something wrong with the syntax !
[13:57] <wuyan> hi
[13:57] <Lunks> n2diy: How is it possible that copying and pasting to gedit will behave like right mouse button/print?
[13:57] <ErEtZuM> can anyone tell me, how can i open some ports at my ubuntu ?
[13:57] <ikonia> DarKnesS_WolF: have you tested the script first
[13:57] <ikonia> ErEtZuM: all ports are open by default
[13:57] <ThuLex> anyone?
[13:57] <gamed|ph> ah i can use backticks in exec... ok then its no problem ;-)
[13:57] <ErEtZuM> the inetd.conf is empty
[13:57] <ikonia> ErEtZuM: ubuntu doesn't come with a firewall
[13:57] <ikonia> ErEtZuM: inetd.conf does not open ports
[13:58] <n2diy> Lunks: select all in Nautilus, copy it, paste it into gedit, and then print it.
[13:58] <DarKnesS_WolF> ikonia: yes it works from teh shell
[13:58] <DarKnesS_WolF> it sheel to exucte some java commands
[13:58] <Pici> !firewall > ErEtZuM (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[13:58] <gaga> Hi there, does anybody know why there are no pidgin 2.3 packages in the repos (or why a old, patched version has been added instead of the new one?)
[13:58] <DarKnesS_WolF> so i need to know the syntax to attach this in a shell or something :-s
[13:58] <ikonia> DarKnesS_WolF: check you set the path in your script
[13:58] <ErEtZuM> ikonia : i want to open 25, or 110 etc
[13:58] <ikonia> gaga: its not been packaged yet
[13:58] <ikonia> ErEtZuM: they are already open
[13:58] <DarKnesS_WolF> ikonia: it is correct i did copy what i wrote on rc.local to the terminal and it did work
[13:58] <ikonia> ErEtZuM: I'll say again, ubuntu comes with NO firewall enabled by default
[13:58] <boris_> how can i see application's terminal output, if i had to restart my computer ?
[13:59] <Pici> ThuLex: How are you booting Ubuntu here?
[13:59] <ikonia> DarKnesS_WolF: thats not what I said, your shell environment may be different than the execution shell
[13:59] <DarKnesS_WolF> all i need to know hwo to run this script in a shell using rc.local in ubunt ? somthing has to do with sudo su -c ? r something
[13:59] <DarKnesS_WolF> ikonia: what u mean ? i put the full script bath
[13:59] <Lunks> n2diy: I'm sorry, but I wasn't very clear. I'd like to print a document, not nautilus window.
[13:59] <DarKnesS_WolF> path *
[13:59] <ErEtZuM> ikonia, : but no one can connect on me
[13:59] <gaga> ikonia: what do you expect, when will pidgin 2.3 be added?
[13:59] <ThuLex> Pici: from a CD
[13:59] <ikonia> ErEtZuM: are you running a mail server ? do you have a firewall on your router in front of you
[13:59] <ikonia> gaga: no idea
[13:59] <ThuLex> I ideally want to get it on my USB Key which is what im trying to do, but at the moment its running off of a dis.
[13:59] <ThuLex> disc
[13:59] <ikonia> DarKnesS_WolF: your user shell path maynot be the same as the default path userd
[13:59] <ErEtZuM> oh, it might be the router..
[13:59] <n2diy> Lunks: you can't open the document, and print from it!?
[13:59] <ErEtZuM> thanx
[14:00] <Pici> Lunks: look into the nautilus-script-manager package
[14:00] <boris_> will somebody help me ???
[14:00] <ikonia> boris_: ask the question
[14:00] <boris_> i already did
[14:00] <boris_> ok
[14:00] <DarKnesS_WolF> ikonia: i know it is not in the path but i put the full path of the script /var/www/goeserver/bin/startup.sh
[14:00] <DarKnesS_WolF> in the rc.local
[14:00] <Lunks> thanks, pici
[14:01] <DarKnesS_WolF> i need to run it from rc.local as root
[14:01] <Lunks> thanks too, n2diy
[14:01] <n2diy> Lunks: good luck.
[14:01] <boris_> i was playing counterstrike with wine, and it crashed. i couldnt restart X so i had to restart comp with REISUB command. is there any way i can view counterstrike's terminal output before it crashed ?
[14:01] <IgorSobreira> when i try to set some Visual Effects in my Gutsy...is says: "The Composite extension is not available" ...anbody knows whats missing?
[14:01] <m13> hello
[14:01] <ikonia> REISUB ?
[14:01] <boris_> yes
[14:01] <ikonia> what is REISUB ?
[14:01] <boris_> something like emergency restart
[14:02] <ikonia> what do you mean ? how did you do it
[14:02] <Pici> ikonia: the sys-req restart codes
[14:02] <IgorSobreira> i've downloaded: libxcomposite1 libxcomposite1-dev libxcb-composite0 libxcb-composite0-dev... :/
[14:02] <ikonia> ahhh sys RQ
[14:02] <ThuLex> anyone???
[14:02] <boris_> Ctrl+Alt + prtscrn and then u type REISUB
[14:02] <ikonia> ok, sysrq
[14:02] <DarKnesS_WolF> ikonia: so ?
[14:02] <boris_> ikonia : so ?
[14:02] <ikonia> DarKnesS_WolF: I missed your last message, sorry
[14:02] <boris_> i was playing counterstrike with wine, and it crashed. i couldnt restart X so i had to restart comp with REISUB command. is there any way i can view counterstrike's terminal output before it crashed ?
[14:03] <Pici> ThuLex: I dont even know how you are using linux if nothing is mounted
[14:03] <ikonia> boris_: so, no probably not. Check your syslog, but thats as good as you'll get
[14:03] <boris_> help please somebody
[14:03] <ThuLex> i'll restart linux
[14:03] <ThuLex> perhaps theres a bug or something
[14:03] <Pici> IgorSobreira: What video card do you have?
[14:03] <Pici> ThuLex: perhaps
[14:03] <n2diy> _ruben: the trailing / was the trick, thanks man!
[14:04] <IgorSobreira> Pici, ATI
[14:04] <Pici> IgorSobreira: Did you install the drivers using the Restircted Drivers Manager?
[14:04] <IgorSobreira> yes
[14:04] <boris_> i was playing counterstrike with wine, and it crashed. i couldnt restart X so i had to restart comp with REISUB command. is there any way i can view counterstrike's terminal output before it crashed ?
[14:04] <boris_> i gotta find it out
[14:04] <boris_> oh
[14:04] <boris_> and
[14:04] <Snakker> Can anyone help me install My belkin wireless usb  on ubuntu i have been the past few days
[14:04] <ThuLex> whats that pendrive site?
[14:04] <ikonia> boris_: you won't
[14:04] <Pici> boris_: Please stop repeating, you've gotten your answer from ikonia, did you look?
[14:05] <IgorSobreira> Pici, there says my ATI drivers are in use
[14:05] <boris_> Pici : yes i did
[14:05] <boris_> but i cant find anything in syslog
[14:05] <Pici> IgorSobreira: Okay, you also need to install the xserver-xgl package
[14:05] <IgorSobreira> hum...ok
[14:05] <Snakker> :(
[14:05] <boris_> Pici : counterstrike doesnt work, it always crashes, so its useless
[14:05] <ikonia> boris_: how is that an ubuntu problem ?
[14:05] <Marcusklaa1> Sounds more like a Wine problem
[14:06] <Pici> boris_: Have you asked about this in #winehq?
[14:06] <Pici> boris_: or consulted the wine appdb?
[14:06] <boris_> ikonia : its not. i just want to find out how to see counterstrike's terminal output
[14:06] <ikonia> boris_: you can't
[14:06] <boris_> Pici : yes, i did ask in winehq
[14:06] <nfusco> Im currently experiencing this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/124159 - Is there anything I can do for this? upgrade the kernel etc?
[14:06] <Krucifier> So let me get this straight, to install I just...put the disc in, turn my PC off. Turn it on again, and select the format/install ubuntu option?
[14:07] <Pici> Krucifier: yes.
[14:07] <Bollinger> I am trying to write a script, and would like to get the string after : from the output of the groups command. What is the best tool todo this? (sed?)
[14:07] <en0x1> Hi all,
[14:07] <ikonia> nfusco: no fix yet
[14:07] <ikonia> boris_: join #bash
[14:07] <boris_> ikonia : and then ?
[14:07] <Pici> Krucifier: If your computer is configurered to boot from CD, otherwise you may need to touch your bios settings
[14:07] <ikonia> boris_: and then what ?
[14:07] <ikonia> boris_: you can't get the terminal output
[14:07] <Pici> Bollinger: please ask in #bash
[14:07] <Marcusklaa1> Hey guys could anyone help me with dual screen? I got it working with the nvidia settings thing (twinview). I selected seperate X just to test and now I can't my second screen to work again. Will deleting all other x files help this?
[14:07] <Pici> ikonia: boris_ != Bollinger
[14:07] <boris_> so why should i join #bash ?
[14:08] <ikonia> Pici: apologies, autocomplete went nuts
[14:08] <ikonia> Bollinger: sorry
[14:08] <DarKnesS_WolF> ikonia: i added /var/www/geoserver/bin/startup.sh into rc.local and it is still not loading :-s
[14:08] <en0x1> Can someone help me with setting up proxy.pac files? I have recevently created a proxy.pac file which works fine with firefox, but IE7 doesn't seem to accept it,if you look at the apachge access log file you see apache sending back 304 response to an IE request for the proxy.pac whereas Mozilla receives the std 200
[14:08]  * genii sips a very large coffee
[14:08] <Krucifier> Pici: I use 2 harddrives. I am getting rid of the one that currently has Windows on it. And putting Ubuntu on a harddrive that I have been using for everything else. It has never had an OS on it...
[14:08] <ikonia> DarKnesS_WolF: do you have any non-absoloute paths ?
[14:08] <Pici> DarKnesS_WolF: Is that script executable?
[14:09] <Krucifier> Pici: So what I am thinking is take out C drive then put the Ubuntu CD in, and then restart, and then choose the format D/Install Ubuntu option?
[14:09] <Pici> Krucifier: Sure, but if you but the 'c' drive back in, it may mess up your booting preferences.
[14:09] <DarKnesS_WolF> Pici: yes ... i take it copy and paste from rc.local and it works
[14:10] <xim010>  my last laptop had a real serial port and I had no need for a converter. Unfortuneately this one does not. I do have in my possession an IO Gear  GUC232A. Not sure if that is good or bad, but that is what I have at the moment. The OS sees the adapter but kismet is seeing no data from the Garmin Legend,
[14:10] <xim010> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0557:2008 ATEN International Co., Ltd UC-232A Serial Port [pl2303]
[14:10] <xim010> Any ideas?? I have never dealt with USB/Serial converters before...
[14:10] <DarKnesS_WolF> Pici: ikonia i think it don't run cuz it need to be running insde a shell so is ther elike -c command or so ?
[14:10] <IanLiu> what command should I run to show all files inside a directory? (Listing all hidden files too)
[14:10] <Krucifier> Pici: Ok...
[14:10] <ikonia> DarKnesS_WolF: you need a shell script to launch it, yes
[14:10] <Pici> ikonia: ls -l
[14:10] <ikonia> tut tut
[14:10] <kidem> Is there a way to search irc for keywords?
[14:11] <ikonia> autocompelte Pici  ?
[14:11] <Andycasss> is there a command like "mkfile" or something?
[14:11] <genii> xim010: sudo modprobe usbserial
[14:11] <phanto1> I folowd a  tut http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#sudo.2Fgksu_without_password and ubuntu dosent start now. Where is the file located that this comand starts ?        EDITOR=gedit gksu visudo
[14:11] <Pici> ikonia: oops :D
[14:11] <ikonia> ;)#
[14:11] <dorto> I can watch tv alright in MediaPorta/Windows but can't in mythtv/ubuntu. anybody wants to help?
[14:11] <dorto>  my card is detected correctly as Hauppauge 500 by the setup but how to make it scan for the channels (PAL B, India)
[14:11] <Andycasss> I dont want to create 40 new text files manually with gedit, how to i "make" them in terminal?
[14:11] <Snakker> Can anyone help me with installing proper drivers for my belkin f5d7050  with an RT2571WF Ralink Chip .... onegai
[14:11] <Pici> IanLiu: ls -l
[14:11] <IndikuT> So, whilst -generic is installing, thought I might ask ahead of time. To install LAMP, the *BEST* way would be through tasksel?
[14:11] <ikonia> Andycasss: touch ?
[14:11] <deal_> can someone name me a good PHP editor, such as Dreamweaver for windows, I can use in this fabulous Ubuntu of mine?
[14:11] <ikonia> Andycasss: cat ?
[14:11] <IanLiu> thanks =)
[14:11] <nfusco> ikonia, When are we talking on a likely fox do you reckon, Im not familiar with the patching times?
[14:11] <Pici> IndikuT: Yessir.
[14:11] <xim010> thanks genii I will give it a shot
[14:11] <dorto> Globar Backend Setup -> Channel Frequency Tablet is only allowing "US", "Japan", "Australia" and such. my country is not in the list.
[14:12] <ikonia> nfusco: no idea. Post a request in the bug
[14:12] <Pici> Andycasss: Empty text files?
[14:12] <Andycasss> Pici: Yes
[14:12] <n2diy> I'm trying to rsync /etc/ from this box to my test box, and I'm getting a lot of mkstemp permission denied errors, ideas?
[14:12] <Andycasss> And later echo them
[14:12] <genii> xim010: You should have devices after like /dev/ttyUSB0     or such
[14:12] <tntCry> Andycasss, 40 new text files ? lo
[14:12] <xim010> deal_, NVU works
[14:12] <ikonia> Andycasss: echo "hello" >file
[14:12] <IndikuT> Hopefully it working this time... :( -- Last fresh install, PHP didnt wanna work.. broken dependencies
[14:12] <Pici> Andycasss: 'touch'
[14:12] <Andycasss> echo "hello" > file would tell me "no fuch file or dir"
[14:12] <deal_> xim010: Thanks. I'll look in to it.
[14:13] <Andycasss> ok ill try "touch"
[14:13] <Marcusklaa1> Hey guys could anyone help me with dual screen? I got it working with the nvidia settings thing (twinview). I selected seperate X just to test and now I can't my second screen to work again. Will deleting all other x files help this?
[14:13] <ZiRo`> what is the ubuntu equivelent of tahoma
[14:13] <Snakker> Can anyone help me with installing proper drivers for my belkin f5d7050  with an RT2571WF Ralink Chip .... onegai?
[14:13] <tntCry> Marcusklaa1, on laptop?
[14:13] <n2diy> ZiRo`: what is tahoma?
[14:14] <ZiRo`> font
[14:14] <Pici> ZiRo`: you can install the msttcorefonts package to get some of the micrsoft fonts
[14:14] <Andycasss> cannot touch `/xxx/xxx/xxx': No such file or dir
[14:14] <phanto1> Help please:'(.  I folowd a  tut http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#sudo.2Fgksu_without_password and ubuntu dosent start now. Where is the file located that this comand starts ?        EDITOR=gedit gksu visudo
[14:14] <ikonia> Andycasss: are you trying to make dir's too ?
[14:14] <ZiRo`> i was thinking of people visiting the site on ubuntu without the font tbh
[14:14] <rojo^> ZiRo`: I like the Bitstream fonts.  Bitstream Charter I think is what it's called.  I'm on Windows at the moment, though :(
[14:14] <Andycasss> ikonia: no
[14:15] <Pici> !fonts | ZiRo`
[14:15] <ubotu> ZiRo`: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[14:15] <ikonia> Andycasss: your directory path is wrong in your command then
[14:15] <tntCry> Marcusklaa1, are you on a laptop
[14:15] <linux4me> hi guys, i'm running gutsy, anyone knows if ubuntu has something similar to linuxconf utility?
[14:15] <ikonia> linux4me: what do you want to do
[14:15] <DarKnesS_WolF> ikonia: ? look i have /var/www/geoserver/bin/startup.sh i want it to be running when i start my machine .. and i added it into rc.local and it didn't work .. any idea why ? where to debug or how !?
[14:15] <IndikuT> installed... yay. -=Reboot=-
[14:15] <ThuLex> ahh Pici?
[14:15] <Andycasss> ikonia: No im sure its not, i can ls the path
[14:15] <ThuLex> it comes up now
[14:15] <lovewin2k> 能打汉字么?
[14:15] <Olde> ikonia: you're helpful. is there a pluto client for ubuntu? if so what is it and where can I get it? :D
[14:16] <ikonia> Olde: no idea. never heard of pluto
[14:16] <ikonia> Andycasss: thats the only thing it can be then
[14:16] <Olde> it's like irc
[14:16] <Pici> !cn | lovewin2k
[14:16] <ubotu> lovewin2k: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[14:16] <ikonia> Olde: irssi
[14:16] <xim010> OK genii sorry for the delay but the phone is ringing off of the wall - I have /dev/ttyUSB0 what now?
[14:16] <ja1> hello, I'm trying to install kmyfirewall, any anything that deals with strongswan/openswan/ ect.. and i continually get an error when trying to install.. could someone take a look at my info that i posted to the Pastes URL under my display name here and maybe tell me what i'm missing?
[14:16] <Olde> command for irssi is...
[14:16] <JuJuBee> I have a classroom with my own server running apache/squid/dansguardian/iptables.  Can someone help me set up blocking google chat?
[14:16] <linux4me> ikoni - add a network card.  I know how to modify the /etc/network/interfaces file (i'm running fiesty/gutsy) but wanted to know if a handy utility existed
[14:16] <Pici> Olde: It *is* irc, or its like irc?
[14:16] <Olde> it's like irc, Pici
[14:17] <Andycasss> ikonia: Sorry, you were right, my path was wrong, thank you
[14:17] <genii> xim010: What is the serial device which is on the other end you are trying to use? Modem, etc?
[14:17] <Pici> Olde: then irssi isnt going to help you, thats an irc client
[14:17] <xim010> it is a Garmin eTrex Lengend.
[14:17] <n2diy> I'm trying to rsync /etc/ from this box to my test box, and I'm getting a lot of mkstemp permission denied errors, ideas?
[14:17] <Olde> Pici is there a command to search apt repositories for something like that?
[14:17] <phanto1> EDITOR=gedit gksu visudo     please give me the URL of this file that this comand starts so I can change it back to default
[14:17] <Marcusklaa1> tntCry: no, on pc
[14:17] <xim010> I know it does NMEA and a couple of other modes but I will have to look to confirm what they are
[14:17] <ikonia> n2diy: local permissions for rsync are wrong
[14:17] <Pici> Olde: apt-cache search pluto
[14:18] <Snakker> Where can i go to get some help on installing drivers for my usb wireless ... ?
[14:18] <Olde> thank you
[14:18]  * genii goes to google "Garmin eTrex Lengend"
[14:18] <Pici> !wifi > Snakker (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:18] <n2diy> ikonia: ok, /home/ transferred ok.
[14:18] <xim010> oops that would be legend not lengend
[14:18] <zimon> is there a way to deactivate ipv6 before the install process?
[14:19] <ikonia> zimon: not that I'm aware of
[14:19] <genii> xim010: Ah, GPS unit then
[14:19] <n2diy> xim010: xastir@yahoogroups might have your answer, check the archives.
[14:19] <xim010> uh yeah sorry
[14:19] <zimon> like a boot parameter or something .. hm. sad
[14:19] <xim010> I didn't think about xastir ... thanks
[14:19] <stefano> is it possible to integrate ZFS in ubuntu?
[14:20] <wers> i cant install pidgin :(
[14:20] <wers>   Depends: pidgin-data (<1:2.2.1-z) but 1:2.3.0-schmidtke1 is to be installed
[14:20] <Marcusklaa1> tntcry, are you there?
[14:20] <Mulix> hello. /.... i'm new to linux.. what's the command to mount my hard drive ?
[14:20] <tntCry> Marcusklaa1, type gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and click Ctrl + F and type usedisplaydevice , tell me what do you see
[14:20] <Mulix> i i run ubuntu from a cd
[14:20] <Marcusklaa1> alright
[14:21] <ja1> my paste log is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46225/ if that is needed..
[14:21] <stefano> Mulix, you should be able to mount it at your "computer" in "places"
[14:21] <phanto1> Please help me:'(    I folowd a tut from the wiki     http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#sudo.2Fgksu_without_password             EDITOR=gedit gksu visudo     please give me the URL of this file that this comand starts so I can change it back to default
[14:21] <Marcusklaa1> tntcry: the file is void
[14:22] <tntCry> void?
[14:22] <yesi> hi
[14:22] <Marcusklaa1> there isn't anything it it
[14:22] <Marcusklaa1> in it*
[14:22] <Lunks> Pici: There's only Subversion script, not printing one
[14:22] <Mulix> there is the dvdrom and the filesystem.. but at the fylesistem i don't know where are my files from the hard drive
[14:23] <yesi> i'd like to know on Edgy, why "gnome-cups-icon" take 99% of my CPU? is it a bug?
[14:23] <joe_> If I'm working with a network installation of ubuntu, how do I add users to the entire network instead of just to the local machine?
[14:24] <geminidomino> Just to make sure I understand correctly, from reading the info on the Backports page: There will be no way for me to easily run Apache 2.2.6 without waiting for Hardy and upgrading?
[14:24] <n2diy> ikonia: Ok, so it could be a permission problem, but running sudo rsync should take care of that right?
[14:24] <Marcusklaa1> tntcry are you there still?
[14:24] <Marcusklaa1> i got it
[14:24] <Marcusklaa1> # nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
[14:24] <Marcusklaa1> # nvidia-settings:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder3)  Wed Sep 12 14:30:30 PDT 2007
[14:24] <Marcusklaa1> Section "ServerLayout"
[14:24] <Marcusklaa1>     Identifier     "Layout0"
[14:24] <Marcusklaa1>     Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
[14:24] <Marcusklaa1>     InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
[14:25] <Mulix> before i had win xp ... and i want to copy some files from C:\ .... where do i find my hdd ?
[14:25] <tntCry> dont paste here
[14:25] <genii> xim010: between google and searching apt-cache, it looks like you need some program like gpsbabel, gpstrans, or gpsman. The description for gpstrans says it is for Garmin GPS units
[14:25] <joe_> Mulix -- df command should help you on your way
[14:25] <joe_> Anyone familiar with network installations of ubuntu?
[14:25] <genii> xim010: Since i don't have any GPS things I don't know much about setting them up under linux
[14:26] <phanto1> Why is everyone ignoring me ?    I folowd a tut from the wiki     http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#sudo.2Fgksu_without_password             EDITOR=gedit gksu visudo     please give me the URL of this file that this comand starts so I can change it back to default
[14:26] <Marcusklaas> sorry for that
[14:26] <The> salut tout le monde
[14:26] <Mulix> i tried that... but nothing.....
[14:27] <joe_> phanto1 this is a rather tough channel
[14:27] <Mulix> it doesn't show that there are 16 gb occupied
[14:27] <The> vous parlez français ?
[14:27] <jane_> Mulix,  you on life cd?
[14:27] <jrib> !fr | The
[14:27] <ubotu> The: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:27] <genii> !fr
[14:27] <jrib> phanto1: what did you change?
[14:27] <aragami> The: join #ubuntu-fr
[14:27] <Mulix> yes.. live cd jane
[14:27] <genii> jrib:  :)
[14:27] <The> so, i speak english too
[14:27] <Mulix> it should show my hdd, right ?
[14:27] <The> but in bad version
[14:27] <jrib> The: ok, but here only english :)
[14:28] <jane_> perhaps you can mount your windoof partition
[14:28] <Mulix> even if I'm running it from a live CD
[14:28] <Kirrus> phanto1, this is a very busy channel.  Give people a second to lookup the needed answer
[14:28] <The> ok, what are you speaking for ?
[14:28] <jrib> The: ubuntu support
[14:28] <The> and what the problem ?
[14:28] <Kirrus> phanto1, you need to enter the command "sudo visudo" to edit the file you need to alter.
[14:29] <abcde> Can anyone help me fix tracker?  I've tried the suggestions on the forums, but Tracker seems to break after a few searches.  I've run this command "trackerd -v 2 -R", and it reindexes, then I can do a few searches, and then I start getting no results.  Any ideas?
[14:29] <jrib> The: lots, just wait for someone to ask a question
[14:29] <jane_> Mulix, you have to know the name of the window partition than try to mount it
[14:29] <knifepoint> Im sick of my ATi 9600 and its fglrx issues can anyone suggest a worthy nvidia AGP card?
[14:29] <Lunks> Is there someway I can make cups start printing from the last page to the first? So it will be correctly ordered when done
[14:29] <nickestra> salut
[14:29] <Mulix> i know the name
[14:30] <The> it's very difuculte te remebre our names
[14:30] <genii> -o outputorder=reversed
[14:30] <joe_> Mulix mount /dev/thatHD /media/XPDrive
[14:30] <phanto1> Kirrus: I need to go back to default. Im in windows right now because ubuntu dosent startl.  Where do I find the file to change back?
[14:30] <joe_> How do I add users globally on a network setup of Ubuntu?
[14:30] <The> and associate the dialog
[14:30] <abcde> knifepoint, You don't need fglrx, I'm running am x600, and it's running fine on the open driver
[14:30] <sylvan> Hi. Is there a way to display Quicktime Movie Panoramas on a Ubuntu system?
[14:31] <Lunks> Is there someway I can make cups start printing from the last page to the first? So it will be correctly ordered when done
[14:31] <jane_> Mulix, type in a terminal man mount
[14:31] <joe_> Lunks, someone already answered you
[14:31] <knifepoint> abcde: i really like compiz :P
[14:31] <blackburn_> hi
[14:31] <abcde> knifepoint, I'm running compiz....
[14:31] <Kirrus> phanto1, /etc/sudoers
[14:31] <IndikuT> Here's topic to make people smile: I live 16 miles away from Bill Gates. Woo...
[14:31] <abcde> knifepoint, Without fglrx
[14:31] <phanto1> Kirrus: Thanks
[14:31] <knifepoint> abcde: smoothly?
[14:31] <abcde> knifepoint, Yes.
[14:32] <knifepoint> abcde: hmmm interesting i never really gave it a chance so thats the radeon driver?
[14:32] <Lunks> joe_: Where?
[14:32] <n2diy> I'm trying to rsync /etc/ from this box to my test box, and I'm getting a lot of mkstemp permission denied errors, I'm running rsync from the test box,ideas?
[14:32] <The> are you know any IRC cool server with 15-20 person ?
[14:32] <abcde> knifepoint, With the open driver, I think it is the radeon driver
[14:32] <jrib> The: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:33] <ja1> anyone checking on my problem yet? :)
[14:33] <knifepoint> abcde: does that support AIGLX? main thing i want working is compiz, stutter free fullscreen video and Myth TV
[14:33] <ZeroA4> Lunks, i believe it was "<genii> -o outputorder=reversed"
[14:33] <jrib> !please > ja1 (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:34] <abcde> knifepoint, The 9600 itself might be a little stressed that way.  Fullscreen video should be ok, so long as it isn't HD.  I'm running AIGLX.
[14:34] <Lunks> ZeroA4: Oh, I didn't see it, and it's pretty hard to find out when I *don't* know what am I looking for. :P Should I add this to 'advanced' input area on printer configuration?
[14:34] <Lunks> genii: Should I? =P
[14:34] <knifepoint> abcde: yeah was hoping to get HD going on my TV Tuner card
[14:35] <joe_> Anyone know how adding users works in a ubuntu network?
[14:35] <n2diy> how can I open port 22 on my test box, so I can scp/ssh into it? Have have physical access to it.
[14:35] <abcde> knifepoint, The power of the video card might be the problem with the HD, not open driver or AIGLX.
[14:36] <jrib> ja1: is openswan installed?
[14:36] <knifepoint> abcde: fglrx doesnt support AIGLX and XGL works fine but myth TV doesnt support XGL :P thats my problem at the moment
[14:36] <ZeroA4> Lunks, i really don't know... i just search for a answer for you question in the channel
[14:36] <Lunks> ZeroA4: Ok, thanks and sorry =P
[14:37] <ZeroA4> Lunks, tudo bem :)
[14:37] <knifepoint> abcde: I have no problem buying an nvidia just dont wanna buy something unsupported plus it needs to be AGP cause old mobo no PCIe
[14:37] <jrib> n2diy: it isn't closed unless you (or your firewall) closed it
[14:37] <ja1> jrib: i get the same error when i try to install openswan
[14:38] <jrib> ja1: pastebin that
[14:38] <Marcusklaas> I have the following problem: I tested the Seperate X option in nvidia-settings for my two screens but I can't get them to work in TwinView anymore. Can anyone help me out?
[14:38] <genii> back
[14:39] <sylvan> Hi. Is there a way to display Quicktime Movie Panoramas on a Ubuntu system?
[14:39] <jrib> n2diy: note that ssh is not installed by default
[14:39] <jrib> !ssh > n2diy (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:39] <n2diy> jrib: it is a clean install of Dapper, unused until today. Though I may have fiddled with something a year ago after the install? It can reach this box just fine, ssh, vncviewer work, but this box can't touch it.
[14:40] <genii> Lunks: Yes, the -o outputorder=reversed   as a commandline option prints it in reverse order. For GUI I don't know
[14:40] <jrib> n2diy: can you 'ssh localhost' on the dapper box?
[14:40] <n2diy> jrib: no windows involved, both boxes are pure Dapper.
[14:40]  * genii hands ZeroA4 a coffee
[14:40] <Lunks> genii: Ok, thank you very much. On GUI, you just have to add outputorder, than set reversed as its value.
[14:41] <Fain> any reason my internet would work but the update manager and sysaptic package manager wouldn't?
[14:41] <genii> Lunks: You're welcome
[14:41]  * ZeroA4 thanks genii
[14:41] <genii> ZeroA4: Anytime :)
[14:41] <Marcusklaas> how do you do the emotes?
[14:41] <jrib> Fain: botched proxy settings maybe?  What happens when you do 'sudo aptitude update'?
[14:42] <jrib> Marcusklaas: /me thinks that question is better asked in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:42] <Marcusklaas> oh sorry
[14:42]  * Marcusklaas apologizes.
[14:42] <Marcusklaas> w00t
[14:42] <florian_> can anyone help me?
[14:42] <Lunks> lol
[14:42] <Fain> Reading package lists... Done
[14:42] <bazhang> ask florian_
[14:42] <florian_> i just startet my computer, and now xserver doest work proper any longer
[14:42] <florian_> bazhang: it uses vesa as driver.
[14:42] <jrib> Fain: so you can use apt in the terminal just fine?  Try to install something
[14:43] <abcde> knifepoint, Sorry, I got a phone call.  You can buy nvidia, I just don't like when people think ATI can't do anything.  I wanted to let you know it wasn't the card, just the setup.  It's up to you what you get.
[14:43] <florian_> bazhang: i also tried to copy my old xorg.conf to /etc/X11, but it's the same again.
[14:43] <bazhang> florian_: have you installed the proper drivers? which card?
[14:43] <bqshiji> hello
[14:43] <Fain> did, what happens is it says the package isn't availble, then I recheck and it find 6 of 6 package, update the list, and still won't actually update anything
[14:43] <florian_> nvidia 6600GT, driver should be nvidia.
[14:44] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg florian_ to reconfigure x
[14:44] <florian_> bazhang: yesterday and months before it worked perfect..
[14:44] <n2diy> jrib, I ran ssh localhost here, and was asked to confirm this boxes ID, but I still can't get into the test box, port 22 permission denied. The test box gets into this box with no trouble at all. I have Firestarter running on this box, but not on the test box.
[14:44] <knifepoint> abcde: I love ati card but it just seems nvidia drivers a far more advanced on linux at the moment
[14:44] <florian_> bazhang: i did this already
[14:44] <bazhang> florian_: gutsy?
[14:44] <askand> http://pici.se/163695/ Look at that picture. Notice the big gap? Do you to have these problem with aMSN?
[14:44] <florian_> bazhang: 7.10
[14:44] <Fain> I am poking at it where I can, the issue doesn't make sense to me simply because it WAS working on the previous install
[14:44] <geminidomino> Would broken SSL handling in apache be considered serious enough to warrant a security update?
[14:44] <florian_> bazhang: don't know the codenames of ubuntu ;)
[14:44] <bazhang> florian_: running compiz-fusion?
[14:45] <florian_> bazhang: yes.
[14:45] <jrib> n2diy: don't say "here" since I have no idea what that means :)  I wanted  you to run 'ssh localhost' on the test box
[14:45] <bazhang> florian_: gutsy gibbon = 7.10 :}
[14:45] <komputes> sylvan: check out this java VR applet http://www.fsoft.it/panorama/ptviewer.htm
[14:45] <rojo^> florian_: have you been using the driver from the Nvidia website / from envy, or have you been using nvidia-glx-new and linux-restricted-modules from the apt repos?  That is, up until you had to use vesa?
[14:45] <cannon> I'm trying to troubleshoot a routing issue I have. Is there a way to log or inspect packets coming in so I can see what is actually happening?
[14:45] <abcde> knifepoint, That is somewhat true at the moment, but not for much longer, since ATI is working on it.
[14:45] <BobSapp> How do i find out the admin password for my local cups configuration in ubuntu?
[14:45] <bazhang> florian_: is it enabled now?
[14:45] <BobSapp> *default admin password
[14:45] <florian_> bazhang: no it isnt
[14:46] <Fain> I have installed Ubuntu 3 times off this LiveCD, first two times the LiveCD found the network drivers fine and internet worked from the LiveCD, however the 3rd time the net wouldn't work
[14:46] <sylvan> komputes: OK, thank you. I am familiar with the PanoTools but wasn't aware that they might also do the trick with QT panoramas.
[14:46] <craigbass1976> At work I can run IE from within firefox in XP.  Is that possible without too much trouble in Ubuntu?
[14:46] <Fain> so...network issue of some sort?
[14:46] <n2diy> jrib, ok, this is my localhost, the test box is the remote one! :) Let me give it a try.
[14:46] <florian_> bazhang: dmesg | tail tells nothing about any xorg problems :(
[14:46] <BobSapp> I've checked cupsd.conf its not there
[14:46] <knifepoint> abcde: hmmm true but the newer drivers have actually been a step back for me with the 9600 so i havn't seen the improvements can you get the x600 AGP?
[14:47] <rojo^> craigbass1976: I don't think the IEtab FF extension works in any OS but Windows, since IE's rendering engine is pretty much built into the Windows shell.  The closest you can come is to run IE as an independent browser using ies4linux.
[14:47] <florian_> bazhang: i just got have to make it working again as fast as possible, because i have to do some very!! important things for school.
[14:47] <n2diy> jrib, ok, I ran ssh localhost, from the terminal of the test box, and was refused by port 22.
[14:47] <rojo^> florian_: have you been using the driver from the Nvidia website / from envy, or have you been using nvidia-glx-new and linux-restricted-modules from the apt repos?  That is, up until you had to use vesa?
[14:47] <bazhang> florian_: that is strange--hope to help though I am not an x expert
[14:47] <craigbass1976> rojo^, ies4linux?  Never heard of it.  INteresting
[14:47] <florian_> rojo^: those in the repository.
[14:48] <bazhang> florian_: laptop? which make and model?
[14:48] <jrib> n2diy: what does 'apt-cache policy openssh-server | grep -i Installed' return?
[14:48] <BobSapp> craigbass1976: its a package/bundle that lets you run IE in linux with wine
[14:48] <BobSapp> ive got it installd it kinda works
[14:48] <cannon> carigbass, consider using virtualbox if you need to see exactly what happens under IE on XP
[14:48] <Salted> hi everyone
[14:48] <florian_> bazhang: still have to write about 7-9 pages time goes out slowly.. :(
[14:48] <abcde> knifepoint, I use the open drivers, never had a problem.  I'd suggest trying them before spending the money, since AGP might be harder to find
[14:48] <jrib> n2diy: on the test box
[14:48] <rojo^> florian_: Are you booting to console now?  What happens when you type "startx" as your regular user account?  Any appropriate error messages?
[14:49] <knifepoint> abcde: Yeah just trying to get opinions on here so i didnt have to do the dirty work :P Do you have a TV Tuner card running?
[14:49] <komputes> sylvan: I'm not sure either, i just got some codecs and media applications from add/remove on 7.10 and QTVR works for me, but I saw PanoTools recommended on the ubuntu forums
[14:49] <rojo^> craigbass1976: yeah, google ies4linux.  It's useful for developing web pages to see how badly IE renders them.  ;)
[14:49] <n2diy> jrib, wait one.
[14:49] <florian_> bazhang:, rojo^: yesterday i configured simple-backup (thats why i had the old xorg.conf) is it maybe a rea
[14:49] <florian_> son
[14:49] <cannon> any ideas on this? "I'm trying to troubleshoot a routing issue I have. Is there a way to log or inspect packets coming in so I can see what is actually happening?"
[14:50] <wers> anyone here having problems with pidgin's plugins? :D whenever I start pidgin, the plugins that I used on my last sessions aren't automatically activated
[14:50] <wers> my plugin settings aren't saved
[14:50] <craigbass1976> rojo^, You're not telling Me anything I don't know.  I took a job a couple months ago and have to use windows ALL DAY!  Feel like cutting my wrists sometimes.
[14:50] <florian_> bazhang, rojo^: wifi-drivers don't really work since 7.10..
[14:50] <florian_> (i'm back)
[14:50] <florian_> bazhang:, rojo^: yesterday i configured simple-backup (thats why i had the old xorg.conf) is it maybe a rea
[14:50] <Salted> but that's a pidgin problem, isn't it?
[14:50] <florian_> son for xorg not to work
[14:50] <cyberfin> where can I ask some questions about nvidia drivers please
[14:51] <n2diy> jrib, none
[14:51] <sylvan> komputes: What software do you use to display QTVR?
[14:51] <abcde> knifepoint, I run windows MCE on another machine, delegation is good.
[14:51] <bazhang> florian_: is that the last time it was working? before you did that?
[14:51] <rojo^> florian_: never used simple-backup.  I have a craptastic bash script I use to back up my junk.
[14:51] <florian_> bazhang: yes.
[14:52] <h4rd-1> hi all
[14:52] <h4rd-1> i need help :C
[14:52] <rojo^> florian_: so, you didn't answer my question earlier.  Any appropriate error messages result when running startx from the console?
[14:52] <Salted> be right back
[14:52] <Salted> phone
[14:52] <knifepoint> abcde: Ahh i see im a uni student with little space so would rather have it all on the one unit. Thanks for all the help ill look it into it a bit more before i make my decision.
[14:53] <jrib> n2diy: you need to install it, the ssh server is not installed by default
[14:53] <florian_> rojo^: excuse me, but my driver threw my out of the connection.
[14:53] <cyberfin> where can I ask some questions about nvidia drivers please
[14:53] <jrib> !ask | cyberfin
[14:53] <ubotu> cyberfin: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[14:53]  * genii sips a coffee and thinks about craptastic junk bashing
[14:53] <florian_> rojo^: i will just try it
[14:53] <cyberfin> lol
[14:53] <IndikuT> using tasksel: I chose LAMP, and left a star in "ubuntu-desktop". Though, Now Im watching the terminal remove everything that has to do with "ubuntu-desktop". Should I be worried?
[14:53] <abcde> knifepoint, MythTV would be more of a cpu thing than gpu, meaning your ATI could probably do it, depending on your cpu
[14:53] <n2diy> jrib, ok, the test box doesn't have access to the internet. How could I suck into the test box over the lan, from this box?
[14:54] <cyberfin> ok I've installed latest nvidia drivers for my 8500gt with envy but opengl doesnt work correctly...
[14:54] <cyberfin> what gives?
[14:54] <knifepoint> abcde: Yeah i i would just need to change to the open drivers to utilise AIGLX
[14:54] <cyberfin> i have a 64 bit system
[14:54] <florian_> rojo^: the logfiles don't tell anything about an error.
[14:54] <jrib> n2diy: you can't, you need to install ssh somehow
[14:54] <devilsadvocate> cyberfin, what do you mean by opengl isnt working?
[14:55] <knifepoint> abcde: ill give em a spin tomorrow and see how i go
[14:55] <cyberfin> well when I run tests with cedega it says that opengl fails
[14:55] <cyberfin> tells me that the drivers aren't correctly configured
[14:55] <rojo^> florian_: when you startx, X either dies, or you get a windowing system.  If X dies, it gives a reason why.  So, which is happening -- X is dying or X is launching as it should?  My humble apologies, but I must take a smoke break.  I'll be back in a few minutes
[14:55] <komputes> sylvan: movie player seems to be taking care of it, but it's a bit buggy
[14:55] <IdleOne> IndikuT: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package so it can safely be removed. if for any reason you have no GUI when it is done you can always sudo ap-get install ubuntu-desktop again and it will re-install the GUI
[14:55] <rojo^> !enter | cyberfin
[14:55] <ubotu> cyberfin: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:55] <cyberfin> I've tried the drivers from nvidia's site
[14:56] <florian_> rojo^: i had to log off this chat to see that.
[14:56] <cyberfin> ok sorry
[14:56] <IndikuT> IdleOne: I thought so.. thanks. :)
[14:56] <n2diy> jrib, I have ssh, and vnc, both working. I guess I just need the ssh-server?
[14:56] <florian_> rojo^: x is running, but only with vesa.
[14:56] <florian_> rojo^: i'll be back in some minutes.
[14:56] <toresn> i would like to be notified when i'm getting a new mail... how do i do this? i'm running a cronjob on fetchmail... and my mailbox i set to /var/spool/mail/toresn
[14:56] <jrib> n2diy: you need to install the "openssh-server" package on the test box
[14:57] <jrib> n2diy: just give it internet access for a few minutes, that would be the easiest way
[14:57] <cyberfin> well as I said I've tried the drivers from nvidia's site and swam through the forums but I can't seem to find a simple solution to installing the driver (whichever) that will give 32 bit support on ubuntu 64 bit
[14:57] <toresn> i would like to be notified when i'm getting a new mail... how do i do this? i'm running a cronjob on fetchmail... and my mailbox i set to /var/spool/mail/toresn     (also i'm using the default shell, bash)
[14:58] <jrib> cyberfin: why don't you just install 32bit?
[14:58] <jrib> 32bit ubuntu
[14:58] <komputes> sylvan: it worked, now it doesn't - pretty flakey
[14:58] <n2diy> jrib, Yes that is what I thought, so I need to access my apt-get archive on this box, from the text box. Hooking up the test box to the internet would be a major hassle.
[14:58] <devilsadvocate> cyberfin, i've got an 8500 gt as well and the drivers installed by the restricted drivers manager seems to be doing reasonably well. I dont use cedega though, so I'm not sure what your problem comes from. I'm running 64 bit too
[14:59] <zimon> i'm installing ubuntu gutsy server on my old pc right now .. there's a networking script in /etc/rcS.d which should bring up the network interfaces .. but it doesn't. what's that script for, then?
[14:59] <sylvan> komputes: LOL, sorry, I hope it's not related to me bugging you about the whole QTVR thing.
[15:00] <devilsadvocate> cyberfin, please run "glxgears -info" in a terminal and tell me yoru frame rates
[15:01] <cyberfin> 186471 frames in 5.0 seconds = 36973.754 FPS
[15:01] <jrib> n2diy: maybe you could even forward the port apt-get uses on the test box to the other box using ssh, no idea if that works.  Other options are to burn a dvd and use that as a repository, copy over the debs you need to /var/cache/apt/archives (from memory), use apt-zip, or use the switch for apt-get that only prints the uri's for the debs you need then download those and copy them over
[15:01] <cyberfin> that's about average
[15:02] <slavik> mysql-devel appears to not be in the repository ... any way to install it?
[15:02] <komputes> sylvan: no problem, its something I want to work well, but untill apple jumps on the linux bandwagon creating itunes and QT for linux, i think we'll have to wait
[15:02] <slavik> QT for Linux???
[15:02] <linduxed_> when i run "/etc/init.d/openafs-client restart" i get an error saying that openafs.o does not exist
[15:03] <devilsadvocate> cyberfin, it looks like the drivers are fine
[15:03] <cyberfin> yer... I think it might be a problem with cedega... I'm gonna try their forums for a while... thanks for the input and thoughts
[15:04] <devilsadvocate> cyberfin, perhaps cedega has some issue with the nvidia drivers?
[15:04] <florian_> rojo^: /lib/modules/[kernel]/volatile/nvidia.ko is missing.
[15:04] <n2diy> jrib: roger that, thanks. Port forwarding is not my forte, and putting packages on CD's sounds like the path to dependency hell. Thanks for trying.
[15:04] <sylvan> komputes: Actually the whole QTVR thing should be super-simple to implement in an OpenSource alternative, for in the end it's nothing more than still images aligned on a ball (super-simplyfing here, I guess).
[15:04] <florian_> rojo^: let's see if its in any of my backup archives
[15:04] <cyberfin> again, thanks and good afternoon...
[15:04] <devilsadvocate> anytime
[15:05] <damidalla> Hello everybody, I have a strange problem with nautilus freezing when I open it from the panel or when I try to delete something
[15:05] <jrib> n2diy: if you install openssh-server on one box and copy over the debs from /var/cache/apt/archives, it should "just work"
[15:06] <n2diy> jrib: ok, we have come full circle, that is where I get the mkstemp permissions denied errors.
[15:07] <chuck_norris91> salve, dove posso trovare visual basic???
[15:07] <jrib> n2diy: pastebin the command and the error in full
[15:08] <Dralid> Kudos to Linux, Debian, Ubuntu, and most importantly the Synaptic Package Manager for being pleasantly surprised to find that the tools I thought were too obscure to be readily available in the package manager were ... in the package manager!
[15:08] <LjL> chuck_norris91: sei sul canale di supporto di Ubuntu... ti sembra una domanda sensata? Comunque, qui si parla solo inglese, vai su #ubuntu-it SE hai una domanda su Ubuntu, altrimenti prova ##windows
[15:08] <devilsadvocate> n2diy, could you tell me what you want to do..? I've got a networked setup too, maybe i can hep?
[15:09] <joe_> How do I add users on a network system?! I tried adding them at the  server.
[15:09] <chuck_norris91> grazie e scusa
[15:09] <n2diy> jrib: I can't! I can only run them from the test box, and get get them here to this box!
[15:09] <jrib> n2diy: what are you running?
[15:10] <n2diy> devilsadvocate: I'm trying to rsync this box to my test box, /home/transferred ok, but /etc/ won't: mkstemp errors, permission denied.
[15:11] <n2diy> jrib: rsync Chatto:/etc/ /etc/                      I'm running that from Geronimo, which is the test box, this one is Chatto.
[15:13] <pike_> joe_: you  are wondering about ldap?
[15:15] <n2diy> devilsadvocate: If I could open port 22 on my test box, I'd be making progress. I have physical access to it.
[15:16] <devilsadvocate> n2diy, the ssh port?
[15:16] <h4rd-1> need help :C
[15:17] <n2diy> devilsadvocate: Yes, I suppose, I get the denials with ssh and scp.
[15:17] <h4rd-1> need help
[15:17] <musashi1> anyone know if i can remotely admin my router if i have ssh access to a box on the network (the router itself is not set up for remote admin itself - i.e. i can't remotely connect directly to the router)
[15:17] <devilsadvocate> n2diy, aptitude install openssh-server?
[15:17] <h4rd-1> can i install visual studio 2005 on ubuntu??
[15:18] <joe_> pike_ I'm not sure.
[15:18] <kierov> you can try with Wine... hahaha
[15:18] <h4rd-1> Oo
[15:18] <chimp> on a fresh install of ubuntu, when i try to open network, it shows the loading mouse thing, but it never opens, and theres no error
[15:18] <jatt> h4rd-1: no but you can install it on windows
[15:18] <joe_> visual studio. haha
[15:18] <joe_> sounds difficult.
[15:18] <joe_> =)
[15:18] <h4rd-1> :C
[15:18] <kierov> h4rd-1 if you want something like VB on Linux, try Gambas
[15:18] <h4rd-1> what's that?
[15:18] <devilsadvocate> kierov, mono?
[15:19] <genii> It's obviously something like VB on linux
[15:19] <kierov> A BASIC language object oriented with a GUI like VB Studio
[15:19] <musashi1> chimp: try starting it from a terminal and see if any errors are output
[15:19] <deal_> I dont have 'man bz2', is there someway to find such files?
[15:19] <n2diy> devilsadvocate: the test box doesn' have access to the internet, only to this box, through the lan. I've I could get the test box to access apt's archive on this box, I would be good to go. Or ditto, if I could pass the internet connection through the lan, to the test box.
[15:19] <h4rd-1> okay
[15:19]  * genii makes a pot of coffee for the ppl that need caffeine
[15:19] <hairulfr> Hey all, I need to set up a VPN-tunnel, how do I do this in ubuntu?
[15:19] <h4rd-1> kierov : thank you
[15:19] <akincer> hairuflr: What are you using for your VPN concentrator?
[15:20] <kierov> Pretty good if you use VB, easy to learn, syntax is the same except for some things like a messagebox
[15:20] <hairulfr> akincer: The VPN is all sety up, is just need to connect to it, actually, it's nothing i've made :)
[15:20] <h4rd-1> okay
[15:20] <kierov> Differences are in the manual anyway
[15:20] <jatt> !pptp
[15:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pptp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:20] <akincer> hairulfr: I understand. What kind of VPN are you trying to connect to?
[15:20] <devilsadvocate> ah, n2diy the things are connected via the lan, then can you ssh tbetween the two boxes. Also, do you want to use the existing apt-cache or set it up for future use. If its for future use, look at http-replicator. if you want to set up interenet access, set up squid o the computer connected to the internet
[15:20] <chimp> multichil, what command will start it from terminal
[15:21] <chimp> I tried "NetworkManager" but that isnt it
[15:21] <rambo3> try gnome-
[15:21] <hairulfr> akincer: Uhm - Encrypted? I have no idea...?
[15:21] <devilsadvocate> n2diy, http-replicator will allow the second comp to connect to the net via the first, and will also avoid downloading the same file twice
[15:21] <hairulfr> akincer: never really used it before
[15:21] <akincer> hairulfr: Do you have a pre-shared key?
[15:22] <n2diy> devilsadvocate: that is the trick, the test box can ssh,  and vnc to this box, but this box can't touch the test box. Ok, let me look at http-replicator, thanks.
[15:22] <devilsadvocate> n2diy, on our network, we originally sued http replication to increase speed of package downloads.. basicall producing a pratial repo mirro. Later we just started to mirror the whole repo with debmirror
[15:22] <hairulfr> akincer: Don't know, I just need to know if it's possible through the standard ubuntu setupå
[15:23] <nomojob> My Calendar button within Evolution makes the whole program crash when it is clicked and so then I installed Sunbird Calendar and used it for about 2 days and now suddenly Sunbird closes as soon as it opens up.  Anyone know why I keep having these crashes?!?!?!?
[15:23] <milanissa> hi
[15:23] <devilsadvocate> n2diy,  can youinstall openssh-server on the test box? It should eb possible for it to go both ways, as long as both have the sever
[15:23] <milanissa> hi
[15:23] <ghorman> good morning all
[15:23] <musashi1> chimp: i'm not sure the name of the app. are you refering to the one that you can change network setting? you could try network or networking or just type the first few letters and hit tab to have it auto complete. if nothing happens hit it twice for a list of options.
[15:23] <chimp> ahh found it
[15:23] <chimp> network-admin
[15:24] <akincer> hairulfr: VPN is not a point and click sort of thing. You can connect to most VPN servers/concentrators with Linux. But knowing _how_ to do it requires knowing what kind of VPN it is (i.e. Cisco or maybe a Sonicwall PSK)
[15:24] <hairulfr> akincer: It's the Relakks service, if you klnw it?
[15:24] <abcde> Can anyone help me fix tracker?  I've tried the suggestions on the forums, but Tracker seems to break after a few searches.  I've run this command "trackerd -v 2 -R", and it reindexes, then I can do a few searches, and then I start getting no results.  Any ideas?
[15:24] <chimp> cheers for the help
[15:24] <musashi1> chimp: maybe network-admin
[15:24] <devilsadvocate> n2diy, http-replicator is what you want though. but eventually you will end up needing ssh too, so you may want to spend some time trying to fix it
[15:24] <chimp> argh this laptop is really playing up though, i mean with open terminals after i type the command nothing happens
[15:24] <chimp> yeah musashi1 i found it
[15:24] <akincer> hairulfr: Never heard of it. I'll check Google
[15:24] <musashi1> chimp: cool beans
[15:25] <hairulfr> akincer: Cool :)
[15:25] <Salted> is there a recommondation list for laptops? Thought of getting an alienware machine, since I love gaming
[15:25] <chimp> Laptop is being very strange, i try opening some programs and they will open straight away, but sometimes when i try opening them, nothing happens then 3 mins later the program just pops up
[15:25] <devilsadvocate> Salted, Ubuntu Laptop Compatibilty Pag on tee wiki
[15:25] <hairulfr> akincer: The thing is, don't wanna pay for it, if half my computers can't be on it
[15:25] <ghorman> I'm trying to setup ventrilo to start on boot. The command to start ventrilo is "./ventrilo_srv -d" which I added above the exit 0 line in rc.local but it is still not working, any ideas?
[15:25] <nomojob> My Calendar button within Evolution makes the whole program crash when it is clicked and so then I installed Sunbird Calendar and used it for about 2 days and now suddenly Sunbird closes as soon as it opens up.  Anyone know why I keep having these crashes?!?!?!?
[15:25] <n2diy> devilsadvocate: did you pull an all nighter too!? read your last statement! :) I can't install ssh-server on the test box, because this box is denied access to port 22. When I try and rsync the apt-get archives of this box, from the test box, I'm denied permission by mkstemp. I'm in a catch 22.
[15:26] <devilsadvocate> n2diy, openssh-server doesnt have many dependancies, if i remeber correctly. use a usb drive :P
[15:26] <akincer> hairulfr: I don't know anything about paying or not paying for it. You'll have to sort that out. Here is something I found on Gentoo's wiki. You might find some useful information there to get started: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Relakks
[15:26] <damidalla> Hello everybody, I have a strange problem with nautilus freezing when I open it from the panel or I try to delete something
[15:26] <CrazyPoultry> if anyone is familiar with Evolution, is there a way to send the mails from different accounts to subfolders of the inbox (or am i just being a moron and not seeing it)
[15:26] <hairulfr> akincer: : Cheers :=
[15:27] <n2diy> devilsadvocate: that would be a god send, and I'll give it a try now.
[15:27] <devilsadvocate> n2diy, download the .deb file and double click on it. It is fundamentally the same as using apt
[15:27] <bqshiji> hello everyone                     my wine doesn't work and compiz can not open ,what c an i do
[15:27] <akincer> bqshiji: compiz and wine don't play well together
[15:27] <n2diy> devilsadvocate: i already have it here, just have to get it over to the test box.
[15:27] <chimp> is there a command to allow you to check to make sure all the system files are intact etc.?
[15:27] <ghorman> I'm trying to setup ventrilo to start on boot. The command to start ventrilo is "./ventrilo_srv -d" which I added above the exit 0 line in rc.local but it is still not working, any ideas?
[15:28] <bqshiji> that's mee i must cut one???\
[15:28] <boris_>  is there any way i can put everything thats related to graphics like drivers and xorg to default on ubuntu ?
[15:28] <akincer> bqshiji: I don't think you have to do that, but I can't say for sure. Go over to #winehq and ask them
[15:28] <DJW2tone2> join #hydrogen
[15:29] <PhenomX4> DJW2tone2; go f' off :)
[15:29] <PhenomX4> advertisements suck.
[15:29] <devilsadvocate> n2diy, in case there are unmet dependancies, it will not be able to install. Howveer, it wil tell you what are missing. If there a small number of missing packages, you can get those as well. Install them one at a time. once the dependanceies are installed, runa dpkg-configure -a (or something like that.. taht will be in the error output)
[15:30] <buzztu> anyway to fix the choppy video streaming on xine/firefox?
[15:31] <n2diy> devilsadvocate: Thanks, I'm familiar with the "dependicies from hell" issues, been playing with linux since RH 5.2, and that is why I love Ubuntu, and Synaptic.
[15:31] <Nalleman> Hi, is there someone that can help me to connect my TV to my computer? Im using a Svideo cable to scart. I get a black and white picture on the TV and blackscreen on computer.
[15:31] <ghorman> Can anyone give me an example of a rc.local file?  I added my command but its not working...
[15:31] <dmakalsky> Hi, how do I get the latest acrobat reader going on ubuntu... it only seems to come in rpm form
[15:31] <devilsadvocate> ghorman, what command did you add?
[15:32] <MenZa> dmakalsky, I think that's in medibuntu
[15:32] <MenZa> !medibuntu | dmakalsky
[15:32] <ubotu> dmakalsky: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[15:32] <ghorman> devilsadvocate: i added /data/ventsrv/ventrilo_srv -d right above the exit 0
[15:32] <deal_> Anyone here can guide me abit on install of NVU ? Got the tar.bz2 file, packed it out, and now I dont have a clue to what I have to do. Did a ./nvu-config but that didnt say much! Searched a bit on google, but got usless info!
[15:32] <genii> use the package manager it's in the repos
[15:32] <genii> !info nvu
[15:32] <ubotu> Package nvu does not exist in gutsy
[15:32] <genii> oops perhaps not
[15:32] <deal_> It's not
[15:33] <deal_> I've tryed that ;)
[15:33] <deal_> tried
[15:33] <toresn> how can i change the highlighting-color of my directories in my gnome-terminal?
[15:33] <juano__> how can i change the terminals resolution ?, ttys on (F1 ---> F6) ?
[15:34] <damidalla> dmakalsky: if you try to select "different language or operating system" you'll find also the .deb version, working here in Ubuntu 7.10
[15:34] <n2diy> toresn: ~/.bashrc?
[15:34] <dmakalsky> thanks
[15:34] <_-XPERT-_> TiMMaY-SP: Sorry got a major problem on the job had no time left to answer
[15:35] <vermi> I'm having a bit of trouble... Some Unicode stuff isn't being displayed correctly; mostly Middle Eastern and east-asian languages. Instead of proper characters, I often get a box with the 4-digit code in it. What can I do about this?
[15:35] <genii> deal_: There is a deb at debian backports site
[15:36] <nomojob> My Calendar button within Evolution makes the whole program crash when it is clicked and so then I installed Sunbird Calendar and used it for about 2 days and now suddenly Sunbird closes as soon as it opens up.  Anyone know why I keep having these crashes?!?!?!?
[15:36] <deal_> Sorry, your search gave no results
[15:36] <toresn> n2diy: ok, where in .bashrc exactly   (i'm pretty new to this :)
[15:37] <n2diy> toresn: Not sure, been a while since I messed with it. I could be in an other *rc file?
[15:37] <arash> Hi, how do I kill a process if I know what windows it belongs to?  Is there any similiar ctrl+alt+esc way like in KDE?
[15:38] <n2diy> *I/it
[15:38] <pike_> juano__: the perm solution is gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst   scroll down to your first entry for ubuntu and in kernel line add vga=713  or whatever
[15:38] <juano__> pike_: ok let me try that
[15:38] <juano__> pike_: thanks
[15:39] <h4rd-1> i have big problem it's error when trying to install ubuntu input/output error cannot copy somethnig..
[15:39] <IdleOne> what do the options -rf mean in rm -rf?
[15:40] <IdleOne> nm man rm explained
[15:40] <n2diy> IdleOne: don't mess with that command! -r is recursive, all sub directories and file will be history. I forget what the fi is.
[15:40] <n2diy> *fi/f
[15:41] <juano__> pike_: what resolution would be 713 ?
[15:41] <IdleOne> f is force
[15:41] <nomojob> IdleOne: so what does it mean?
[15:41] <juano__> pike_: i want it 1280x1024
[15:41] <IdleOne> r=recursive f=force
[15:41] <FluxD> what does recursive mean?
[15:41] <nomojob> IdleOne: and what exactly does it remove?
[15:42] <IdleOne> nomojob: it will remove whatever dir or file you tell it to. -r option will remove dir and all subdir I assume
[15:42] <n2diy> nomojob: when you run that command, everything in your current directory, and below it, becomes vaporware.
[15:42] <pike_> juano__: there is a table here at bottom of page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[15:42] <henry> olá
[15:43] <nomojob> that would suck
[15:43] <IdleOne> oye henry
[15:43] <juano__> pike_: thanks
[15:43] <henry> tem gente do brasil aqui?
[15:43] <IdleOne> !br | henry
[15:43] <ubotu> henry: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[15:43] <henry> ok
[15:43] <narothepharoh> how do i install visualizations on amarok?
[15:44] <JJtech> hi to all.. good evening..
[15:44] <n2diy> FluxD: Recursive basically means everything below this point in your file tree branch.
[15:44] <FluxD> ah ty
[15:44] <narothepharoh> how do i install visualizations on amarok?
[15:44] <darrell3457> Mornin' All
[15:45] <juano__> pike_: ok gonna give it a try now
[15:45] <pike_> juano__: enjoy being able to play movies and browse web in tty now
[15:45] <whatevernow> so i was wondering where the scripts in /etc/init.d/ get their variables from
[15:45] <juano__> pike_: yep! :)
[15:45] <juano__> pike_: thank you
[15:45] <pike_> np
[15:45] <whatevernow> i'm trying to set the consolefont and there's a script called consolefont there
[15:46] <L0pp3> ja ubuntun onnellinen omistaja :)
[15:46] <IdleOne> !english | L0pp3
[15:46] <ubotu> L0pp3: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[15:46] <darrell3457> How do I enable root permissions to drag and drop to a filesystem folder
[15:46] <darrell3457> tempory
[15:46] <L0pp3> aa, okei, i m now ubuntu happy owner :P
[15:46] <pike_> darrell3457: gksu nautilus
[15:47] <IdleOne> L0pp3: welcome !
[15:47] <darrell3457> then password
[15:47] <whatevernow> so anyone know where these boot scripts get variables from
[15:47] <arash> darrell3457 , its the same password you login with
[15:48] <n2diy> whatevernow: read the scripts, it is all inside of them.
[15:48] <whatevernow> or can i just change /bin/setfont $(CONSOLEFONT) ${param} \
[15:48] <whatevernow> to /bin/setfont <preferred font>
[15:48] <whatevernow> this is what i'd do but idk what the $param and \ business are about
[15:49] <Profanephobia> i need help setting up vga out on a ati card using  a custom resolution
[15:49] <darrell3457> Thanks, Pike
[15:49] <user_> sebi
[15:49] <n2diy> whatevernow: the folks over in #bash would know, there are a couple of hundred of them there now.
[15:49] <Narada> hi guys could someone give me a link to the guide on how to enable compiz?
[15:49] <whatevernow> kewl
[15:49] <whatevernow> thx
[15:49] <Salted> gotta go, business meeting
[15:49] <Profanephobia> Narada, using gutsy?
[15:49] <Narada> Profanephobia: yeah
[15:50] <Profanephobia> Narada, system -> pref -> appearance -> visual effects
[15:50] <IndikuT> tasksel: LAMP == Hung up at 100% after MySql install... whats the best way to find out if LAMP is fully installed?
[15:51] <Profanephobia> Narada, and for more options install compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:51] <Narada> Profanephobia: thanks and how to do that for kde?
[15:51] <ScislaC> In Gutsy, GDM is now supposed to detect if you have Xgl installed and utilize it if found, does anyone know where this detection takes place?
[15:51] <Profanephobia> Narada, ahh crap
[15:51] <darrell3457> New question
[15:51] <Narada> Profanephobia: using gnome atm but might switch later
[15:51] <Vale>  hi everyone
[15:51] <Profanephobia> Narada, honestly i dont know kde
[15:51] <Narada> Profanephobia: np thanks
[15:52] <Vale>  anyone knows how to enable the wifi in an asus a6m laptop? lshw says it's "DISABLED"
[15:52] <darrell3457> What would be the command to insert into .xml to play all .ogg files.
[15:52] <IdleOne> Narada: #kubuntu might be of help
[15:52] <Narada> IdleOne: true
[15:53] <darrell3457> anyone
[15:54] <IndikuT> IdleOne: From earlier, I tried to apt-get ubuntu-desktop, the 'tasksel' killed everything, turned my box into a boat anchor. -- Had to fresh install everything. :(
[15:54] <Pici> darrell3457: Your question doesnt really make sense.
[15:55] <abcde> Can anyone help me fix Tracker?  I've tried the suggestions on the forums, but Tracker seems to break after a few searches.  I've run this command "trackerd -v 2 -R", and it reindexes, then I can do a few searches, and then I start getting no results.  Any ideas?
[15:55] <Vale>  Pici: mine does?
[15:55] <kane77> is there any boss key program for ubuntu?
[15:55] <ikonia> boss key ?
[15:55] <IdleOne> IndikuT: sorry to hear that. well good thing is you have a fresh install now
[15:55] <Pici> Vale: huh?
[15:55] <IdleOne> !info tasksel
[15:55] <ubotu> tasksel: Tool for selecting tasks for installation on Debian systems. In component main, is important. Version 2.67ubuntu10 (gutsy), package size 58 kB, installed size 880 kB
[15:55] <IndikuT> On the other hand though... I did the LAMP install with tasksel, and it hung up at 100% after MySQL... <enter> or <esc> did nothing. Whats the best way to check that it is all installed correctly?
[15:56] <mikebeecham> hey guys...how do I get rid of the internet connection  from my panel in the corner?
[15:56] <mikebeecham> using gutsy
[15:56] <Overand> How can I grep and show all lines that *don't* match the pattern I specify?
[15:56] <Vale>  Pici: nevermind =) just wondered if my question (not reacted to as of yet) did make sense
[15:56] <ikonia> IndikuT: why do you keep breaking this, just install mysql, apache and php
[15:56] <IndikuT> oh.. Maybe I should look up before entering text
[15:56] <ikonia> IndikuT: stop using tools and tricks
[15:56] <nomojob> Can someone help me figure out why Sunbird crashes as soon as it is opened?!?
[15:56] <pike_> kane77: you mean like hide prog if boss walks by like in the old games and stuff
[15:56] <ikonia> nomojob: start ig from the command line
[15:56] <kane77> pike_, yes.. something like that...
[15:56] <nomojob> ikonia: ig?
[15:56] <Overand> or would I need to use 'sed' instead?
[15:56] <ikonia> it
[15:56] <nomojob> ikonia: oh, lol
[15:56] <Pici> Overand: grep -v
[15:56] <IndikuT> Ive tried installing one piece at a time. php5 has broken dependencies or something lin the libphp.yada-dada
[15:57] <ubuntu> hi there
[15:57] <abcde> nomojob, Patience is a virtue, I'm not sure I can help, but I'd suggest running it from the terminal, that way you can see any errors
[15:57] <ikonia> IndikuT no it doesn't
[15:57] <IdleOne> !lamp | IndikuT
[15:57] <ubotu> IndikuT: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[15:57] <nomojob> ikonia: i just tried to start it in safe mode from the command line and it still crashed
[15:57] <damidalla> why on earth does nautilus freeze (ubuntu 7.10) when opening from menu/panel and when deleting a file?
[15:57] <ikonia> nomojob: but what did the terminal window have in it when it crashed
[15:57] <kantor> HI, who wants to contribute for an open source application on sourceforge.net ?
[15:57] <ikonia> kantor: this is ubuntu support
[15:57] <nomojob> ikonia: want me to pastebin it?
[15:57] <ikonia> nomojob: please
[15:58] <mikebeecham> hey guys...how do I get rid of the internet connection  from my panel in the corner?
[15:58] <ikonia> mikebeecham: right click on it
[15:59] <IdleOne> and remove
[15:59] <darrell3457> I'm looking for help editing .xml files.  Where should I look?
[15:59] <ikonia> darrell3457: use a text editor
[15:59] <darrell3457> of course
[15:59] <darrell3457> I need to know the commands
[15:59] <ikonia> darrell3457: vi, nano, emacs what ever editor you want
[15:59] <Pici> darrell3457: an xml file is just a text file, use gedit, nano, whatever
[15:59] <hottium> darrell3457: you could try screem too if you are using desktop
[15:59] <nomojob> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46231/
[16:00] <darrell3457> I have the file open in screem
[16:00] <hottium> so go ahead and edit then
[16:00] <darrell3457> How do I make the config play all .ogg files not just one
[16:00] <ikonia> nomojob: bad news, coredump = serious fault, you'd have to start tracing it
[16:00] <Pici> darrell3457: What config?
[16:00] <Odd-rationale> Is there a way to have the network applet start on login but not connect to any network?
[16:00] <ikonia> nomojob: I suspect this is because its compiled for generic linux rather than ubuntu
[16:01] <Vale>  could anyone help me with getting a wireless connection work under gutsy, asus a6m laptop, broadcom 43xx driver
[16:01] <nomojob> ikonia: anything to fix it?
[16:01] <ikonia> nomojob: no
[16:01] <darrell3457> for lincity.  userconfig,xml
[16:01] <pike_> kane77: not sure but depending on if you are in gnome or kde or xfce there are keys to move to another desktop so you could alt-f2 or alt-ctrl-f2 and have work open there
[16:01] <ikonia> lincity ?
[16:01] <nomojob> ikonia: thats not cool.  What about retrieving all my appointments?
[16:01] <IdleOne> !wifi | Vale
[16:01] <ubotu> Vale: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[16:01] <kane77> pike_, hmm.. that is good idea :)
[16:01] <RobD> hiya, anybody know why the Network Manager insists on overirding my DNS settings on boot up? Not every time but often enough to be annoying
[16:01] <ikonia> nomojob what about it ?
[16:02] <Pici> darrell3457: Thats a very obscure question for here, try asking in #lincity
[16:02] <nomojob> ikonia: is there a way to or are they lost?
[16:02] <ikonia> nomojob: where did you get the sunbird package from ?
[16:02] <m13> robd ; check /etc/resolv.conf
[16:02] <darrell3457> Okay Thanks
[16:02] <Vale>  IdleOne: been there already, couldn't help any useful help
[16:02] <nomojob> ikonia: mozilla website
[16:02] <mikebeecham> I did do...there's not choice to remove from panel
[16:03] <ikonia> nomojob: yeah, thats a big issue, thats compiled for "generic distro" so changes to any distro can break it
[16:03] <RobD> m13 - have checked it and that's where I set my DNS (I'm  using DNSMasq as a local DNS server with my other DNS setup in the DNSMasq.conf)
[16:03] <Odd-rationale> mikebeecham: You can remove the notification area. looks like 2 lines
[16:03] <Odd-rationale> However, I would not reccomend that.
[16:03] <Pici> RobD: edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and put a line that says 'prepend domain-name-servers xx.xx.xx.xx yyy.yy.yyy.yy'
[16:03] <m13> robd, two dns servers?
[16:03] <Pici> RobD: where xx and yy are some dns servers
[16:03] <tim167> can ubuntu be installed on a 1 GB harddisk ?
[16:03] <nomojob> ikonia: thats weird that it would run for 2 days and THEN stop working
[16:04] <ikonia> nomojob: maybe ubuntu release an update that broke it
[16:04] <Overand> I just changed sshd to run on a nonstandard port, and did /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[16:04] <ikonia> nomojob: anything could break it
[16:04] <nomojob> ikonia: yeah, true
[16:04] <Overand> but now i get connection closed by (ip address) when I try to ssh in - any ideas?
[16:04] <ikonia> Overand: you need to specify the port
[16:04] <dmlb2000> Having trouble installing ubuntu, how do I get the installer to not do the keyboard tests at the beginning?
[16:04] <RobD> m13: 2 DNS servers where. There's only on in resolv.conf (<IP_ADDRESS>) but DNSMasq references 4
[16:04] <Overand> ikonia: I'm specifying it
[16:04] <RobD> Pici will give it a go
[16:04] <nomojob> ikonia: do you have any recommendations for a good calendar to use?  My calendar in Evolution crashes too!
[16:04] <Overand> ssh -p 8022 username@server
[16:04] <Overand> or whatever
[16:04] <Odd-rationale> mikebeecham: Try this instaed. Go to System -> Pref -> Sessions and in the startup programs tab, uncheck the Network manager. The log out and log back in.
[16:04] <mikebeecham> Odd-rationale: I do not want to remove that...just the connection icon
[16:05] <ikonia> Overand: firewall ?
[16:05] <n2diy> nomojob: korganizer
[16:05] <Overand> ikonia: this isn't the first machine I've done this to, but it's the first ubuntu machine i've done it to
[16:05] <Odd-rationale> mikebeecham: ^
[16:05] <Overand> hm - i don't think that machine has any iptables rules set up
[16:05] <mikebeecham> Odd-rationale: I do not want to remove that...just the connection icon
[16:05] <nomojob> n2diy: thanks!
[16:06] <gungoremlak07> hello i have got problem
[16:06] <Odd-rationale> mikebeecham: Try removing it from the startup then.
[16:06] <gungoremlak07> my conexant fax modem cant run
[16:06] <mikebeecham> going to try now
[16:06] <mikebeecham> thanks
[16:06] <ThuLex> if i put ubuntu on a re writable dvd disc, is it possible for ubuntu to save system changes I make? (installs, configs etc.) ??
[16:06] <Overand> ikonia: iptables --list shsows no rules
[16:06] <Parsi> hi
[16:06] <ikonia> Overand: is sshd listening on that port ?
[16:07] <Parsi> is there a graphical applet for managing my internet accounts
[16:07] <ikonia> Parsi: internet accounts ?
[16:07] <Vale>  do you have any idea as of where to seek details about setting up my wifi? couldn't find any in the WifiDocs, nor here, it seems
[16:07] <Overand> ikonia: yep.  i can even telnet in to that port and i get an OpenSSH 'prompt'
[16:07] <ikonia> Overand: thats odd
[16:07] <Overand> yeah it is =]
[16:07] <Parsi> ikonia: yes, dsl accounts
[16:07] <Parsi> i have 2 accounts
[16:08] <rubydiamond> how to access samba drive in network from terminal
[16:08] <Parsi> every time i must run pppoeconf in terminal!
[16:08] <rubydiamond> how to access samba drive in network from terminal
[16:08] <Overand> On different OSes I get different errors, ex. freeBSD says "Reed from socket failed: Connection reset by peer"
[16:08] <cool> !GRUB
[16:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:08] <damidalla> here on Ubuntu 7.10 I have nautilus freezing everytime I open it from terminal, panel/menu and/or I try to delete a file. Obviously, no error reported
[16:08] <Overand> tempted to reboot the thing
[16:08] <gungoremlak07> linuxant site conexant chipset
[16:09] <ikonia> Overand: could be something random
[16:09] <Overand> i have physical access to it
[16:09] <gungoremlak07> but with price.
[16:09] <Overand> i have several existing ssh sessions live
[16:09] <Overand> which i'm not too keen to break =]
[16:09] <n2diy> damidalla: check your /var/log files, they maybe recording errors?
[16:09] <gungoremlak07> i cant use fax
[16:09] <Overand> haha - i can't even ssh in from localhost
[16:10] <RMis> ∞
[16:10] <hairulfr> Anyone know why synaptic suddenly starts wanting to use the cd as a repository, and refusing to connect to any online repositorys?
[16:10] <urielcrow> hello
[16:10] <AngryElf_> *something* is modifying my /etc/resolve.conf -- deleting all my namservers and putting <IP_ADDRESS> in its place, um, any ideas?
[16:10] <ikonia> hairulfr: remove the cdrom line from sources.list
[16:10] <Odd-rationale> hairulfr: Remove the cd from you sources
[16:10] <n2diy> ikonia: gee, this sounds familiar. :)
[16:10] <nightbreed> hello
[16:10] <Snake_v> Alguien me puede ayudar con un programa que implemente la libreria ncurses ??
[16:10] <ikonia> n2diy I know
[16:10] <urielcrow> yo te ayudo una feria
[16:10] <urielcrow> ya lo tengo
[16:10] <nightbreed> i was wondering if there is a way for upgrade manager to change the path it uses to download the update files
[16:11] <hairulfr> ikonia: Odd-rationale: Yeah, I know, but when i do that, i t refuses to connect to any online media, the bastard
[16:11] <akincer> AngryElf: Is that the IP of your home router by any chance?
[16:11] <AngryElf_> akincer: no, i'm at work
[16:11] <damidalla> n2diy: I looked for "something" on /var/log, but I did not find anything particular... Is there a particular file I should look into?
[16:11] <Pici> !es | urielcrow Snake_v
[16:11] <Parsi> is there somethong like Kinternet for GNOME?
[16:11] <ubotu> urielcrow Snake_v: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[16:11] <Odd-rationale> hairulfr: are you connected?
[16:11] <hairulfr> ikonia: Odd-rationale: It just says Connection Refused--- strangely enogh
[16:11] <hairulfr> Odd-rationale: Well, i'm doing it from this computer
[16:11] <tupapa> ke onda
[16:11] <Odd-rationale> hairulfr: sudo aptitude update?
[16:11] <ikonia> hairulfr I'm not interested in talking to you why you use bad langauge
[16:12] <akincer> AngryElf: When is it being modified?
[16:12] <Snake_v> Gracias, ya voy para allà
[16:12] <n2diy> damidalla: check the time stamps, and look at the ones that match with the time of your problems.
[16:12] <Parsi> !lan@Snake_v
[16:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lan@snake_v - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:12] <hairulfr> Odd-rationale: Just refused,
[16:13] <hairulfr> Odd-rationale: Hmm, it says something about could not connect to localhost 127.0... thats weird
[16:13] <ikonia> hairulfr: not really
[16:13] <OI1> hello to every one
[16:13] <ikonia> hairulfr: not if the sources.list points at local host
[16:13] <Overand> ikonia: ah.   something is already listening on that port, ipv6...?
[16:13] <ikonia> Overand: nice one !
[16:13] <caravel> hi folks
[16:13] <AngryElf_> akincer: like every 5-10 minutes
[16:13] <AngryElf_> akincer: all of a sudden my interner is dead, and i check and it's been changed
[16:13] <Overand> ikonia: I switched it to a different port and it works fine - How can I figure out what the heck 'tcp6' is listening to on ::8022 ?
[16:14] <Odd-rationale> hairulfr: It could be that you are just experiencing problem connencting to the repos. Could be temp. Have you connected before?
[16:14]  * pike_ hates puppies
[16:14] <OI1> dear ubuntu users i have problem who can help me
[16:14] <nightbreed> no you dont
[16:14] <IndikuT> ikonia: I had this before, Cant remember how to get it back. But, if I right click my desktop, I used to get a setting that I could open nautilis as ROOT. How do I get this back?
[16:14] <hairulfr> Odd-rationale: Yeah, I've never had any problems before, might be because i've dabbled with my network settings today, but, still, everything else works...
[16:14] <nightbreed> i was wondering if there is a way for upgrade manager to change the path it uses to download the update files
[16:14] <ikonia> IndikuT: gksudo nautalus
[16:15] <IndikuT> thank you :)
[16:15] <Odd-rationale> hairulfr: what did you do? can you undo it?
[16:15] <akincer> AngryElf: Sounds like a DHCP problem
[16:15] <ICQnumber> where can i find out which kernel boot parameters can be seted up, and which values r possible, fo example for "splash" is one i want to know....
[16:15] <hairulfr> Odd-rationale: Yeah, I undid everything
[16:15] <hairulfr> Odd-rationale: Just worked with some proxy settings
[16:15] <Bonster> !dualboot
[16:15] <lgc> Hi. How am I supposed to interact with the CPU performance control on the panel?
[16:15] <JJtech> anyone knows how to update aclocal???
[16:15] <ikonia> hairulfr: your probably looking at localhost as a proxy
[16:15] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[16:15] <Odd-rationale> hairulfr: and it still doesn't work?
[16:15] <tupapa> hola
[16:16] <tupapa> amigos
[16:16] <JJtech> !aclocal
[16:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aclocal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:16] <ikonia> JJtech: why ?
[16:16] <caravel> help! how to configure wicd with a WEP index key ? I did amend the relevant variable within the AP conf file, but it seems to e systematically overriden. Is there a trick ? Currently under microsoft just the time to find the solution, unfortunately wicd web site and faqs don't even mention the subject ? thanks!
[16:16] <n2diy> ! es | tupapa
[16:16] <ubotu> tupapa: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[16:16] <hairulfr> Odd-rationale: Well, no, it doesn't :/
[16:16] <JJtech> ikonia: i was trying to install kiba dock.. it said i shud update my aclocal
[16:16] <OI1> is there any one know turkish
[16:16] <tupapa> thanks man
[16:16] <Pici> !tr | OI1
[16:16] <ubotu> OI1: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[16:16] <ikonia> JJtech: kiba dock is in the repo's isn't it
[16:17] <OI1> thank you
[16:17] <n2diy> tupapa: nada
[16:17] <JJtech> ikonia: i have no idea.
[16:17] <tupapa> you are awesome!
[16:17] <tupapa> bye
[16:17] <ikonia> JJtech: look
[16:17] <akincer> AngryElf: You would, in theory, remove write permissions to it after you make it the way you want it
[16:17] <tupapa> good luck vatos!
[16:17] <JJtech> ikonia: kk.. i'll try
[16:17] <JJtech> ikonia: where again to look for repos??
[16:17] <nightbreed> so no one here has an answer for my question?
[16:17] <JJtech> synaptic package??
[16:18] <hairulfr> Odd-rationale: Hmm, I've gone through the list of servers and i found one that works, apparantly , the problems is n not here. It's slow thoug, 44 kbs, usually i'm at 1mb
[16:18] <Vale>  if there are updates coming out between releases, where can i find them?
[16:18] <JJtech> anyone can help me???
[16:18] <n2diy> nightbreed: people come and go here all the time, you are fishing, cast your bait again.
[16:18] <nightbreed> i was wondering if there is a way for upgrade manager to change the path it uses to download the update files
[16:18] <Odd-rationale> hairulfr: That's strange.
[16:18] <ikonia> JJtech in your package manager
[16:19] <JJtech> ikonia: please walk me through..
[16:19] <hairulfr> Odd-rationale: Yeah, really, very, anyone else had problems today?
[16:19] <ikonia> JJtech: why ? open your package manager, search
[16:19] <dmlb2000> Having trouble installing ubuntu, how do I get the installer to not do the keyboard tests at the beginning?
[16:19] <n2diy> nightbreed: have you right clicked on the upgrade icon, and explored those options?
[16:19] <Vale>  ikonia: i'd need updates too but i can't use my package manager, since i can't connect to the net
[16:19] <Vale>  that's why i'd need the update
[16:19] <neopsyche> HI all .. does anyone know how to use rar files on ubuntu? I have rar file that is split in two parts... can anyone help me with this?
[16:19] <ikonia> Vale: then you can't update if you can't connect to the net
[16:20] <JJtech> ikonia: isn't it updated if i id sudo apt-get update at terminal???
[16:20] <Vale>  sucks.
[16:20] <PriceChild> neopsyche, sudo apt-get install unrar
[16:20] <nightbreed> right click what icon
[16:20] <ikonia> JJtech: yes, but that doesn't mean you've looked for the package
[16:20] <nightbreed> my "upgrade" icon disappeared
[16:20] <PriceChild> neopsyche, you can then just double click on the first archive in the series
[16:20] <nightbreed> i can do a manual upgrade-manager
[16:20] <neopsyche> PriceChild.. I have done that .. do you know how i use it to combine the files to make one file?
[16:20] <ikonia> neopsyche: cat them together
[16:20] <PriceChild> neopsyche, when you open the first file, in reality its openning both
[16:20] <nightbreed> i mean isnt there a way to specifiy it on a command line
[16:21] <nightbreed> or if someone could be so kind to tell me the directory this thing uses i can mv it and then ln -s it
[16:21] <neopsyche> ikonia: how do i extract the "one file"?
[16:21] <ikonia> neopsyche: extract 2 files and cat them togheter
[16:21] <bruenig> nightbreed, sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:21] <Odd-rationale> Is there a way that the Network applet won't connect to network on start up?
[16:21] <neopsyche> ikonia; how do i cat?
[16:21] <lgc> Hi. How am I supposed to interact with the CPU performance control on the panel?
[16:21] <JJtech> ikonia: i can't find it in  package manager..
[16:21] <ikonia> neopsyche: "cat file"
[16:21] <ikonia> JJtech: maybe its not there
[16:21] <damidalla> n2diy: nothing particular in /var/log, only the usual "unknown key pressed"
[16:21] <neopsyche> ikonia: what program do i use to cat a file?
[16:21] <lgc> nalioth, you there?
[16:21] <ikonia> neopsyche: "cat"
[16:21] <JJtech> ikonia: this is why i am asking for help.. jeez
[16:21] <nightbreed> i wanna upgrade to 7.10
[16:21] <bruenig> neopsyche, `cat'
[16:22] <neopsyche> do i sudo install cat?
[16:22] <ikonia> JJtech: drop the attitude, you hadn't even looked, I advised you to check the repo's first, thats good help.
[16:22] <n2diy> damidalla: what file was that in?
[16:22] <Pici> neopsyche: its already installed
[16:22] <bruenig> neopsyche, cat is part of coreutils
[16:22] <bruenig> !info coreutils
[16:22] <neopsyche> oh
[16:22] <ubotu> coreutils: The GNU core utilities. In component main, is required. Version 5.97-5.3ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 1429 kB, installed size 9040 kB
[16:22] <neopsyche> cool
[16:22] <cool> neopsyche, say
[16:22] <Odd-rationale> lgc: the system monitor applet?
[16:22] <Vale>  anyone here with an asus a6m laptop?
[16:22] <lgc> Odd-rationale, indeed.
[16:22] <Silveri> Hi! Could somebody tell what's the default installation directory for Acrobat Reader under 64-bit installation (gutsy)? I need to install japanese language packs and I don't know where it was installed (linux directory structures are still a big mystery to me as I'm a new convert)
[16:23] <ikonia> Silveri: /usr/bin
[16:23] <Odd-rationale> lgc: Do you have it on your panel? What do you see?
[16:23] <CapaH> Does anyone here know how to set the hotkey for VLC to be 0xa2 ? I do not see it anywhere. I have a wireless keyboard 'remote' which has stop/play/pause etc --- and play/pause is assigned to 0xa2 which I have set in Ubuntu's keyboard shortcuts, but when I choose "Media play/pause" from VLC's settings --- it does not seem to be working. Does anyone have any ideas?
[16:23] <OI1> i cant use turkish q keyboard
[16:23] <OI1> what i must do
[16:23] <Pici> Silveri: dpkg -L nameofacrobat'spackage
[16:23] <neopsyche> ikonia: i typed cat in terminal and the cursor is just blinking at me
[16:23] <drew> i installed znes emulator and downloaded the roms, but when i click on the znes tab nothing happens. Any suggestions?
[16:23] <damidalla> n2diy: kern.log, syslog, messages
[16:23] <ikonia> neopsyche: cat file1 >file.out ; cat file2 >>file.out
[16:23] <caravel> Silver try using the locate command, or open synaptics and look up the list of installed files
[16:23] <nightbreed> run znses from a command line
[16:23] <n2diy> damidalla: all three of them!?
[16:23] <neopsyche> hmm..
[16:24] <bruenig> neopsyche, it is not an interactive program
[16:24] <damidalla> n2diy: yes
[16:24] <neopsyche> ikonia: does that actually splice the files together?
[16:24] <lgc> Odd-rationale, I reinstalled Gutsy and I lost such ability. I now read on its manual the control is disabled by default. I vaguely remember someone told me to do dpkg-reconfigure gnome-panel, but it didn't work this time.
[16:24] <ikonia> neopsyche: yes
[16:24] <kane77> Silveri, or you can try which <command> (whatever the command for acrobat is)
[16:24] <Pici> neopsyche: fileroller will extract the entire split archive if you tell it to unpack the first file (if you have unrar installed)
[16:24] <caravel> help! how to configure wicd with a WEP index key ? I did amend the relevant variable within the AP conf file, but it seems to e systematically overriden. Is there a trick ? Currently under microsoft just the time to find the solution, unfortunately wicd web site and faqs don't even mention the subject ? thanks..
[16:24] <JJtech> anyone knows how to update aclocal????
[16:24] <damidalla> n2diy: it's an usual pattern for me, from ubuntu 5.10, using italian keyboard
[16:24] <ikonia> JJtech: you'd have to build your own version
[16:25] <Pici> caravel: Wicd is not part of Ubuntu, its a 3rd party program
[16:25] <OI1> :'( i cant use turkish keyboard please help
[16:25] <n2diy> damidalla: what are you running now, how did you upgrade form 5.10?
[16:25] <Odd-rationale> lgc: So you cannot add the System Monitor applet to the panel?
[16:25] <JJtech> ikonia: how?? i don't know how..i am noob at this..
[16:25] <damidalla> n2diy: I am running a "fresh" install of 7.10
[16:25] <ikonia> JJtech: then you shouldn't be core components
[16:25] <Overand> ikonia: I figured it out.
[16:26] <fragola_red-hat> hy everybody
[16:26] <ikonia> Overand: ?
[16:26] <n2diy> damidalla: how did you upgrade form 5.10?
[16:26] <JJtech> ikonia: huh?? please elaborate?
[16:26] <Overand> ikonia: one of the times I ran /etc/init.d/ssh restart, I did it as a normal user
[16:26] <caravel> Pici: I know this, however since NetworkManager fails to deal correctly with WPA -- wicd is a brilliant workaround
[16:26] <drew> nightbreed i typed run znes in the terminal nothing happened
[16:26] <ikonia> Overand: ah
[16:26] <lgc> Odd-rationale, no, it's working. It's just that I can't choose a CPU speed, for example. The control ability is missing.
[16:26] <Overand> ikonia: so a normal-user had that port open!
[16:26] <Pici> JJtech: Whay do you need to update that?
[16:26] <damidalla> n2diy: I was only saying I have always seen that error, also when I was using 5.10, 6.06, 6.10, 7.04... same old story
[16:26] <abcde> nomojob, Patience is a virtue, I'm not sure I can help, but I'd suggest running it from the terminal, that way you can see any errors
[16:26] <nightbreed> nothing happened?
[16:26] <nightbreed> lol wtf
[16:27] <nightbreed> thats not good
[16:27] <abcde> nomojob, wrong thing, sorry
[16:27] <ikonia> nightbreed: there is no need for language like "wtf"
[16:27] <nightbreed> what happens if you compile it from src?
[16:27] <Pici> drew: did you type 'run zsnes' or just zsnes?
[16:27] <JJtech> ikonia: do you know how to update aclocal or not???  if it is not asked here(where i am installing) i shouldn;t be asking for how to update it..
[16:27] <harry_> what was the kde ubuntu channel??   thx
[16:27] <Pici> harry_: #kubuntu
[16:27] <drew> run zsnes
[16:27] <ikonia> JJtech: yes, I know how to update it, and you should not do it
[16:28] <Pici> drew: just type zsnes and try again
[16:28] <n2diy> damidalla: ok so you followed the upgrade path, good. And this problem goes all the way back to 5.10? Have you looked for bug reports/fixes? If not, I would file a bug report.
[16:28] <JJtech> ikonia: but it said here at terminal that i should update it.. now i am really confused...
[16:28] <Silveri> ah... the correct answer was /usr/lib32 .. apparently it worked... thanks!
[16:28] <ikonia> JJtech: you shouldn't
[16:28] <Odd-rationale> lgc: Choose CPU speed?
[16:28] <JJtech> ikonia: hmmm... ok.. i'll do that.. i'll move on..
[16:28] <drew> ok that worked but it says cant create mcop directory
[16:28] <xzased> Hiya
[16:29] <xzased> Need help here setting up xubuntu on a windows 2000 network
[16:29] <xzased> I already installed samba
[16:29] <Silveri> another question: Adobe Reader needs to specify the directory containing the libgtembedmoz library, it doesn't accept /usr/lib/firefox or /usr/lib64/firefox
[16:29] <sparkymist> hello all
[16:29] <IdleOne> JJtech: there is no pre-made package for ubuntu to update and if you are not familiar with building/compiling then you should not do it I believe is what ikonia is trying to tell you
[16:29]  * nightbreed yawns
[16:29] <xzased> and managed to "mount" the network directory
[16:29] <mikebeecham> i cant remember who mentioned removing the internet connection from my panel via sessions...but thanks
[16:29] <smocrate> hello
[16:29] <orochi_> Hello :> What would be a good brand/model of recent sound card that's compatible with the current Ubuntu kernel? The ICH8 based HD sound on my motherboard doesn't work very well :/
[16:30] <xzased> So I can see the computers on the network and their shared folders
[16:30] <lgc> Odd-rationale, yes.
[16:30] <damidalla> n2diy: no, that problem goes back only 4 days, on that 7.10, not upgraded from 7.04. The only things that goes back to 5.10, not showing any problem, is the error message saying "unknown key code" or someting similar
[16:30] <skopjote> Hi - please advise graphic card to purchase for googlearth without worries/cli
[16:30] <xzased> But when I try to access them I get "permission denied"
[16:30] <JJtech> IdleOne: ok.. i understand.. it would be okay if she/he told me straight.. but anyways, thanks..
[16:30] <ikonia> skopjote: hi - this is not a hardware support channel
[16:30] <ikonia> JJtech: I did tell you straight
[16:30] <Vale>  ok then i'll go back to dapper. if that works, stick with it.
[16:30] <IdleOne> JJtech: ikonia knows his stuff so if he says dont then dont :)
[16:30] <Odd-rationale> mikebeecham: Glad it worked!
[16:31] <JJtech> IdleOne: I did what he said..
[16:31] <IdleOne> JJtech: :)
[16:31] <Vale>  see ya bye
[16:31] <mikebeecham> ahhh there you are Odd-rationale thanks :D
[16:31] <n2diy> damidalla:  hmm, i don't know what to tell you, I'm running Dapper 6.06.
[16:32] <Odd-rationale> lgc: I don't know then. I'm not sure I can change my CPU speed myself!
[16:32] <damidalla> n2diy: ok, thank you for your time... now I am trying purging nautilus and seeing what does it happen when I reinstall it...
[16:32] <dahitokiri> is there a way in perl/python/bash scripting to give input to a program while it is running?
[16:33] <n2diy> damidalla:  good luck.
[16:33] <sparkymist> hello
[16:34] <Tinhed> hello everyone
[16:34] <n2diy> dahitokiri: sure, but it is beyond the scope of this group, try #bash.
[16:34] <regeya> !
[16:35] <regeya> piping stdout to stdin of another program is beyond the scope of #ubuntu?
[16:35]  * regeya grumbles about 'kids these days'
[16:35] <hairulfr> Does anyone know how to use the network manager? There is no icon, only a commandline option to run it, no way to set it up, I was promised graphical interface and a tray icon :/
[16:36] <lgc> Odd-rationale, If you have a Centrino or the equivalente AMD processor, you certainly can. There's two ways of doing it: By writing the minimum frequency to a given file, or by writing the "driving mode" (i.e. powersave, performance, ondemand, and others). You can achieve that by actually writing to a file which the kernel reads in order to control the CPU (or the other way around, I don't know). The frequency monitor does that administration for you from within
[16:36] <lgc>  the panel.
[16:36] <Bonster> any1 ever done dualboot?
[16:36] <Rautamiekka> Bonster, I have
[16:36] <Odd-rationale> lgc: OK I don;t have that type of CPU power
[16:37] <lgc> Odd-rationale, do you have a desktop?
[16:37] <Bonster> Rautamiekka: wat u need to dualboot ubuntu and xp?
[16:37] <kuribohx> elo?
[16:37] <Rautamiekka> Bonster, you must install xp first, then install Ubuntu
[16:37] <greenmanspirit> is it normal if you have a graphics card and onboard graphics for the live cd to switch cards during boot?
[16:37] <Odd-rationale> hairulfr: Did you try alt+f2 then type nm-applet?
[16:37] <Odd-rationale> lgc: laptop
[16:37] <kuribohx> anyone able to help?
[16:37] <Bonster> Rautamiekka: hummm cant do it otherway around?
[16:37] <kuribohx> me?
[16:38] <Pici> !ask | kuribohx
[16:38] <ubotu> kuribohx: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[16:38] <kuribohx> ok ^_^
[16:38] <Rautamiekka> Bonster, one is that you add a line to menu.lst but it doesn't work very well
[16:38] <kuribohx> umm well I have the 6.06 ubuntu iso correctly burned
[16:38] <lgc> Odd-rationale, an old one?
[16:38] <Drakas> Hello, does anyone know what is the name of the program that opens a window with a new X session inside that? I would like to be logged in with my main user and then have a window where I can work with another user's account.
[16:38] <mario_> hi, i have tons of microsoft doc files with images inside. I know that with openoffice i can convert .doc to .html + image files. I need a way to do that (doc --> html + jpg, png,...) with a command line program to do that inside a script. Does someone know if the program exists?)
[16:38] <Bonster> Rautamiekka: how about on 1 OS on Different Hard drives?
[16:39] <RobD> another quick question: Anyone know why CUPSD pauses during initilisation / boot? It waits for a good 30 seconds before continuing and I don't have any printers setup yet
[16:39]  * JJtech be right back..
[16:39] <Odd-rationale> lgc: three to five years or so.
[16:39] <kuribohx> and it loads just fine up till directly after the ubuntu start up sound (live cd)
[16:39] <Rautamiekka> Bonster, in any case you must get GRUB to notice your xp
[16:39] <i-rACEr> hello, i have the folowing problem, after installation i created a second user and selected it to be normal user, not administrator and with this user i can't become root like with the user that was first created
[16:39] <kuribohx> and then the mouse stops moving
[16:39] <ikonia> i-rACEr: add it to the adm group
[16:40] <Vladimir32tl> i have an empty d: drive (40gig) with xp on c:, but in ubuntu installation in the partition window, i have some MB on d: although i know there's nothing on it. is it ok to go ahead with the ubuntu installation even though it tells me there's some data on d:?
[16:40] <Bonster> Rautamiekka: alright was just making sure if that works
[16:40] <kuribohx> and then the cd drive stops loading
[16:40] <lgc> Odd-rationale, do 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' to find out if you have a centrino.
[16:40] <Drakas> xnest. Thanks for help -_-
[16:40] <i-rACEr> ikonia but i don't want that user to be an admin, just to do updates or install software ocasionally
[16:41] <kuribohx> soooooo yeah
[16:41] <ikonia> i-rACEr: whats the difference in becoming root, and being an admin ?
[16:41] <Odd-rationale> lgc: under which heading?
[16:41] <kuribohx> is it possible my computer is not good enough?
[16:41] <kuribohx> or is there some way to do a safe mode type of thing in live cd?
[16:42] <i-rACEr> ikonia i don't want that user to be able to become root, and if i add him to the admin group he can become root
[16:42] <ikonia> i-rACEr: ok, create a sudo profile for him
[16:42] <OpenGuru> hi all. Any one here with AMD HD 2600XT ?
[16:42] <lgc> Odd-rationale, on a terminal.
[16:42] <ikonia> OpenGuru: just ask the question
[16:42] <i-rACEr> ikonia i just want to connect to his desktop with vnc and do administrative work
[16:43] <ikonia> i-rACEr: that doesn't change what I told you to do
[16:43] <i-rACEr> ikonia a sudo profile?
[16:43] <Odd-rationale> lgc: Yes I know. But should I see "centrino" after the vendor_id, Model Name, etc.
[16:43] <OpenGuru> I am thinking of purchasing a new graphics card. Want to know how sapphire 2600XT work with ubuntu ?
[16:43] <Pici> kuribohx: Not all hardware is compatable with the LiveCD, you can try installing using the AlternateCD.  also please try to keep your questions/responses on one line
[16:43] <ikonia> i-rACEr: yes, create a sudo list for him so that only $X command can be executed as root
[16:43] <ikonia> i-rACEr: investiget the sudoers file
[16:43] <TopAgent> f
[16:43] <lgc> Odd-rationale, oops! Mine doesn't say that either!
[16:44] <OpenGuru> any one with 2600XT ? How it works under ubuntu ?
[16:44] <kuribohx> Pici: sorry bout that, the alternate cd doesn't seem to apply to me
[16:44] <ikonia> OpenGuru: its an ati card , so its touch and go
[16:44] <lgc> Odd-rationale, but I found a CLI instruction: cpufreq-selector. Do a man on it.
[16:45] <i-rACEr> ikonia i don't want him to execute commands not even with sudo, i just want full control of the system from that user, is this possible?
[16:45] <Odd-rationale> lgc: lol I have a Intel Pentium processor 1.86GHz
[16:45] <ikonia> i-rACEr: are you messing me around
[16:45] <OpenGuru> ikonia, i didn't get you. Only reason for going to AMD/ATI is upcoming opensource driver
[16:45] <Pici> i-rACEr: Those two statements are one in the same.
[16:45] <ikonia> OpenGuru: the open drivers won't be around for a while yet
[16:46] <lgc> Odd-rationale, does it have a 'stepping' info? Maybe it's that.
[16:46] <TopAgent> hello everyone... Can someone advise me as to what program that I can use in ubuntu to track clients and the buy sell transaction that would be a similar program to the "top Agent" in the Windows platform... I have recently converted to linux and really like it but other than Openoffice I need something geared a little more towards the real estate industry... Any Help would be appreciated
[16:46] <Odd-rationale> lgc: I have "stepping : 8"
[16:46] <OpenGuru> ikonia, then which one you suggest then ? ATI 2600XT or nv 8600GT. Please help me in deciding. I need to give the orders tomorrow.
[16:46] <lgc> Odd-rationale, by 'do a man' I mean 'man cpufreq-selector'.
[16:46] <ikonia> OpenGuru: at the moment I would always go nvidia
[16:46] <clouse> Hi there all, which burning program can burn to multiple drives at once on Linux?
[16:47] <ikonia> OpenGuru: that may change at some point in the future
[16:47] <ikonia> clouse: none that I'm aware off apart from a shell script with cd-record
[16:47] <lgc> Odd-rationale, so do I. I wonder if "stepping" means "speed stepping".
[16:47] <i-rACEr> ok, from the beginning: i want to connect to his desktop with vnc and do administrative work, but i can't become root
[16:47] <ikonia> i-rACEr: so put your user in the adm group
[16:48] <caravel> help! how to configure wicd with a WEP index key ? I did amend the relevant variable within the AP conf file, but it seems to e systematically overriden. Is there a trick ? Currently under microsoft just the time to find the solution, unfortunately wicd web site and faqs don't even mention the subject ? thanks!
[16:48] <OpenGuru> ikonia, thanks for your view. At present I have nv 6200 card. Which has compiz black window bug since a year. So just want to confirm that 8600GT doesn't has any such bugs.
[16:48] <i-rACEr> ikonia but that that user can also become root, and i don't want that
[16:48] <ikonia> caravel: wicd is nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:48] <ikonia> i-rACEr: you use your OWN account
[16:48] <lgc> Odd-rationale, try doing 'cpufreq-selector -f 800' or something like that...
[16:48] <ikonia> i-rACEr: don't use his account
[16:48] <spiritik_> hello, i got a problem with apt-get, everytime i use sudo apt-get install it ask for my installation cd. How can i change apt-ge4t to download then and dont ask them anymore?
[16:48] <clouse> ikonia: cool "shell script with cd-record" I will have to look into that.
[16:48] <caravel> ikonia: NetworkManager doesn't work for me with WPA. What should I use, then?
[16:49] <Odd-rationale> lgc: Why would I (or you) want to the CPU freq?
[16:49] <ikonia> spiritik_: remove the cdrom line from sources.list
[16:49] <OpenGuru> spiritik, open synaptic and remove cd from repositories
[16:49] <thewheat> hey guys how do i find out which /dev entry is corresponding to my line-in on my sound card?
[16:49] <clouse> ikonia: I am going to try Nero for Linux.
[16:49] <ikonia> caravel: don't know
[16:49] <ikonia> clouse: that won't do it
[16:49] <spiritik_> ikonia OpenGuru  thx
[16:49] <i-rACEr> ikonia so it's not possible to become root from within an accont that is not in the admin group?
[16:49] <ikonia> i-rACEr: I don't think you understand how privileges work
[16:49] <bruenig> i-rACEr, it is possible to be come root from any account, so long as you have the root password
[16:49] <Gejsajano> clouse, i`m just burning
[16:49] <bruenig> it is like logging in
[16:49] <ikonia> i-rACEr: create your OWN account on his desktop, and use that
[16:50] <i-rACEr> bruenig but i can't become root with the root password
[16:50] <clouse> ikonia: Ok I am not going to try that one, thanks for saving me the stuff around.
[16:50] <bruenig> i-rACEr, sure you can
[16:50] <caravel> ok then. Is there any GUI wifi selector that support both WEP with key indexes and WPA under ubuntu ? Or should the most mobile users just look for another distro ?
[16:50] <i-rACEr> bruenig no you can't
[16:50] <cvd_> its there a way to know way nautilus freeze? icant use it
[16:50] <bruenig> i-rACEr, mmmm pretty sure You can
[16:51] <ikonia> bruenig: your onto a loser, trust me
[16:51] <bruenig> caravel, you realize that distros don't write networking backends or front ends correct?
[16:51] <spiritik_> ikonia: i am using server, not desktop so i dont know where to look for sources.list
[16:51] <Pici> i-rACEr: Lets start over here, can you explain in a few words on one line what you are trying to do?
[16:51] <ikonia> spiritik_: same places as the desktop
[16:52] <clouse> Does any body know way there are no programs that to parallel burning on Linux?
[16:52] <sahil> hey my friend lost his panels how do u get it back?
[16:52] <cvd_> and the Home its the only place that automatically freeze
[16:52] <lgc> Odd-rationale, If I get your question right, for two reasons: To make things go slower (in order to save power, for example) or to make things go faster. Control, it's all what it's about. You're on Linux, not Windoze!
[16:52] <ikonia> clouse: a shell script with cdrecord, as I've told you
[16:52] <twitchnln> morning everyone, i'm having a strange problem with u7.10, I am attempting to connect to a wep secured wireless network, but when I choose wep in the net manager, for the network, and i put in the key, the connect box stays greyed out, it has no problem connecting to unsecured networks or wpa/psk but wep is killing me.... anyone got any ideas?
[16:52] <bruenig> clouse, perhaps rewrite that sentence in english
[16:52] <ikonia> clouse: or multiple instances of the same program
[16:52] <i-rACEr> pici i want to be able to become root from a users desktop that is not in the admin group
[16:52] <i-rACEr> yes i have an accont on that machine, but that's not the point
[16:53] <holst> has anyone here played Advanced Strategic Command (asc pkg)?
[16:53] <ikonia> i-rACEr: you don't - you want to do it with someone elses account
[16:53] <ikonia> i-rACEr: put your OWN account in the adm group
[16:53] <Pici> i-rACEr: su into your account then run sudo from there.
[16:53] <clouse> Does any body know why there are no programs that do parallel burning on Linux?
[16:53] <bruenig> i-rACEr, ok when you say become root, what exactly do you mean, do you mean literally su - root or do you mean use sudo which is not actually root
[16:53] <ikonia> clouse: do you want me to say it a fourth time
[16:53] <Odd-rationale> lgc: That's what I thought. I believe I already have mine at the max. don't want it any slower. ;)
[16:53] <Odd-rationale> But you want to change that from the CPU Monitor applet. Right?
[16:54] <lgc> Odd-rationale, but, honestly, I think frequency scaling is also possible on Windoze.
[16:54] <Pici> clouse: ask in ##linux and stop repeating here.
[16:54] <bruenig> oh he has multiple disk drives and he wants to burn them at the same time is that what he is asking?
[16:54] <Pici> bruenig: yes.
[16:54] <ikonia> bruenig: yup
[16:54] <i-rACEr> bruenig i mean sudo -s -H, or tring to enable desktop effects and i'm asked for the root password
[16:54] <bruenig> ok so ikonia has already told him
[16:54] <lgc> Odd-rationale, you might, if you use batt power.
[16:54] <clouse> ikonia No burenig asked me to re-post with out the typo's
[16:55] <bruenig> i-rACEr, you are not asked for the root password, you are being asked for your password, you mean the ability to use sudo not the ability to be root user
[16:55] <clouse> Pici: I am not repeating
[16:55] <Cherubael> Ello folks, silly question: What do I have to do to get Rhythmbox to play MP3's? It doens't import them to the library by default and I can't find the option to enable it
[16:55] <ikonia> bruenig: he won't put the user in the adm group, nor will he make a sudo profile for the user
[16:55] <Pici> clouse: Yes, you are.
[16:55] <Odd-rationale> lgc: true.
[16:56] <Odd-rationale> !mp3 | Cherubael
[16:56] <ubotu> Cherubael: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[16:56] <bruenig> i-rACEr, what you are going to want to do (and there may be other ways to do this like groups and stuff, not sure how ubuntu implements this specifically but this will work) do do sudo visudo and add a line that looks like this "username ALL=(ALL) ALL" replace username though with your own
[16:56] <lgc> Odd-rationale, I gotta go now. 'Later.
[16:56] <Odd-rationale> lgc: See ya
[16:56] <amishninja>  #ubuntu: Is there a straightforward way to enable a second monitor in the xorg conf file?
[16:56] <ikonia> bruenig: he won't create a sudo list for the user
[16:56] <Pici> bruenig: he doesnt want that user to be able to do any system adminitration either.
[16:56] <ikonia> bruenig: he wants a user to have no privleges at all, apart from when he's using it, then he wants full
[16:56] <ikonia> but with one user account
[16:56] <bruenig> hmmm
[16:57] <ikonia> so that there is no way to tell if he/his friend is using it
[16:57] <bruenig> how is the OS supposed to know he is using it? do you have a thumbprint thing?
[16:57] <ikonia> bruenig: exactly !
[16:57] <Cherubael> Thanks Odd-rationale
[16:57] <cedaroo> hi all. i'm trying an install on a box currently with 2 win parititions. will i have ny problems if both /boot and / are extended (aka non-primary) partitions? thanks
[16:57] <caravel> bruenig: sorry just reading you know (was searching)
[16:57] <mediahunter> can anyone tell me how to use the getfile
[16:57] <bruenig> you can use thumbprints with pam if you do it right but I don't know how
[16:57] <ikonia> cedaroo: all fine
[16:58] <ikonia> bruenig: thats mega hard, I've done it once and it was a SLOG
[16:58] <ikonia> bruenig: even then you need 2 accounts
[16:58] <nomojob> I just installed korganizer from Synaptic but I cant find it in the menu to run it.  Where did it go?
[16:58] <ikonia> bruenig: which is not what he wants
[16:58] <illovae> hello :)
[16:58] <clouse> Pici: I am no longer asking if there is a program that does parallel burning on Linux but if anyone know why there are no programs that do parallel burning on Linux, why cant you understand that they are to different questions?
[16:58] <i-rACEr> so is there a solution?
[16:58] <pike_> nomojob: try pkill gnome-panel see if it shows up when it respawns
[16:58] <ikonia> clouse: there are none, because there is no need for any
[16:58] <ikonia> clouse: can we drop it now ?
[16:58] <bruenig> clouse, the second question presupposes that there aren't any programs, but because there are, the question makes no sense, do you understand why you don't make sense now?
[16:59] <srccode> bruenig: lol!
[16:59] <Pici> clouse: This is Ubuntu support, if you have a 'why' question, its more suited for ##linux
[16:59] <nomojob> pike_: still nothing.
[17:00] <ikonia> i-rACEr: there is no solution. You need to change your requirments
[17:00] <nico> hello all
[17:00] <clouse> bruenig: So there is but know one will tell me what they are?
[17:00] <Pici> sahil: Did he delete them, or just lose them?
[17:00] <caravel> bruenig: yes. And distro communities do act as an API between the users and the developers right, and are generally knowledgable about which front or back end works on their platform, correct ?^^
[17:00] <bruenig> clouse, cdrecord
[17:00] <ikonia> clouse: I've told you 4 times already !
[17:00] <clouse> Pici: Sure I understand, I am going there right now
[17:00] <sahil> Pici well they are just not visible
[17:00] <cedaroo> i can make either /boot or / a primary parition... is there a reasons to do one or the other? can both be extended paritions?
[17:00] <ikonia> clouse: so stop asking
[17:00] <sahil> how can i check?
[17:00] <i-rACEr> ikonia thank you
[17:00] <ikonia> cedaroo: fine as they are
[17:00] <nico> does anyone of you know how to fix the orbicam in ubuntu 7.10? (acer notebook)
[17:01] <bruenig> caravel, here is the deal, on any distro you get, wep and wpa will be handled by iwconfig and wpa_supplicant respectively. Those are cli apps and there are a host of gui front ends. The same gui front ends you can get on one distro can be had on another. So it is all the same tools.
[17:01] <greedo> please, what's a good video editor for ubuntu ?
[17:01] <anand123> can any one please have a look on this bug --- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46213/
[17:01] <clouse> bruenig: Thanks I will like into it.
[17:01] <nomojob> pike_: any other ideas?
[17:01] <ikonia> anand123: what the heck are you doing
[17:02] <mohammadthebear> whats the command to install a deb file from my desktop? sudo -i dpkg ...
[17:02] <bruenig> mohammadthebear, the -i comes after dpkg, it is an argument of dpkg
[17:02] <nico> greedo: perhaps you can find one by looking at the ubuntu desktop package list?
[17:02] <ikonia> mohammadthebear: sudo dpkg -i
[17:02] <nico> i think there might be some good ones in there
[17:02] <mohammadthebear> oh, and whats the filepath bruenig  ikonia
[17:02] <clouse> ikonia: You told me what 4 time? That there isn't one? I sounds like there is, so I am not sure what you are trying to tell me.
[17:02] <bruenig> mohammadthebear, just whatever the path to your deb file is
[17:02] <ikonia> mohammadthebear: I don't know, its your box
[17:03] <ikonia> clouse: I've told you, cdrecord and a shell script 4 times
[17:03] <nico> hm got to go
[17:03] <mohammadthebear> its on the desktop, and is called realplayer_10.0.7-0.0_i386.deb
[17:03] <anand123> ikonia : thsis error comes whenever i tried to install or uninstall any package
[17:03] <mehmetserif> my laptop locks up everytime when i am using ubuntu and i guess it happens when i watch videos on youtube. So what i have to do to solve this problem?
[17:03] <anand123> ikonia: either from synaptic or apt-get
[17:04] <K4k-laptop> Can some one please help me figure out why X forwarding over ssh is not working on my new Ubuntu 7.10 server
[17:04] <bruenig> clouse, parallel burning would require running a burning program with multiple instances in parallel as you well might imagine. So I don't understand where the confusion is.
[17:04] <ikonia> anand123: do a fine for lsb_release
[17:04] <srccode> my dell inspiron 6400 with ati x1400 won't resume after i suspend or hibernate it.  infact it doesnt suspend or hibernate fully, just pauses at a blinking cursor on blank screen
[17:04] <SP534> Hey all
[17:04] <K4k-laptop> when I login to ssh and try to run xterm it tells me the following:
[17:04] <ikonia> anand123: a "find" sorry
[17:04] <mohammadthebear> is the filepath to the desktop /dev/realplayer_10.0.7-0.0_i386.deb
[17:04] <K4k-laptop> X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
[17:04] <anand123> ikonia:do i need to install from source
[17:04] <ikonia> mohammadthebear: no
[17:04] <ikonia> anand123: re-install from source ?
[17:04] <ikonia> anand123: what are you talking about ?
[17:04] <mohammadthebear> ikonia,  what then? :p
[17:04] <nomojob> I just installed korganizer from Synaptic but I cant find it in the menu to run it.  Where did it go?
[17:04] <K4k-laptop> and when I login to the ssh right after the motd message it tells me
[17:04] <K4k-laptop> /usr/bin/X11/xauth: error in locking authority file /home/my_user/.Xauthority
[17:04] <Pici> K4k-laptop: xterm is a gui program, it wont run over ssh.
[17:04] <gustavnilsson> Hi! How to make it possible for ffmpeg to code in mp3?
[17:05] <ikonia> mohammadthebear: /home/$user/
[17:05] <SP534> I have a big problem-i can install absolutely no applications :O
[17:05] <anand123> ikonia:lsb_release
[17:05] <pike_> SP534: what is the error?
[17:05] <ikonia> anand123: no
[17:05] <ikonia> anand123: I said do a find for it
[17:05] <K4k-laptop> (this got posted before the chanserv message, so I don't know if it went through
[17:05] <K4k-laptop> Can some one please help me figure out why X forwarding over ssh is not working on my new Ubuntu 7.10 server
[17:05] <mohammadthebear> ikonia,  i get no such file..? is it /home/user/desktop?
[17:05] <caravel> bruenig: ok, thanks for the time you spend trying to help me think (much!) better ^^ I feel my brain is kinda disabled now :) got you. So, is there any front end /at all/, n the Linux World, that works fine with WEP index key and handles WPA1/2 as well ? I had finally found an app that seemed to work in all conditions (wicd) and am kind of desperate to witness its failure now :(
[17:05] <anand123> ikonia: is there in /usr/bin/lsb_release
[17:06] <ikonia> mohammadthebear: thats your desktop
 when I login to ssh and try to run xterm it tells me the following:
 X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
[17:06] <SP534> pike_: i just get [program name here} cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type.
[17:06] <Pici> K4k-laptop: aha, yeah, we didnt see that part.
[17:06] <ikonia> anand123: so you need to see why the gnome perl module can't find it
[17:06] <mehmetserif> my laptop locks up everytime when i am using ubuntu and i guess it happens when i watch videos on youtube. So what i have to do to solve this problem?
[17:06] <cedaroo> help please? can /boot and / both be non-primary/extended paritions? i can have only one as a primary, is there any advantage to one or the other?
[17:06] <clouse> bruenig: I understand I am new to this but I should know already over pick it out the first time someone says it to me I understand very ubuntu
[17:06] <Pici> K4k-laptop: Do you have an xserver running from where you are ssh-ing from?
[17:06] <SP534> pike_: and the software list always decides that it needs updating, but never does
[17:06] <anand123> ikonia:how can i find that?
[17:06] <ikonia> cedaroo I've told you 4 times now, there is NO problem with that
[17:06] <ikonia> anand123: view the perl module in the error
[17:07] <cedaroo> sorry ikonia... did not see your msg... still don't... but this is all new. thanks ikonia... and all.
[17:07] <pike_> SP534: what does uname -a say?
[17:07] <bruenig> caravel, I use wifi-radar myself but I have never had to use wpa and only wep on occasion, although I think I recall having to drop to cli with wep on a few occasions so that might not be the best solution
[17:07] <AquaFox|Laptop> What's a good cpufreqd program for GNOME?
[17:07] <SP534> pike_: do i put that in the terminal?
[17:08] <Pici> SP534: yes.
[17:08] <PuppiesAtWork> Does Broadcom wireless work out of the box with 7.10 ?
[17:08] <K4k-laptop> ping k4k-laptop
[17:08] <djtigerwolf> how do i make a custom ubuntu operating system
[17:08]  * caravel thanks bruenig anyway, just for the manner he provides assistance ^^ he's Socrate ...
[17:08] <K4k-laptop> woops