[03:05] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Telroth_Plushie| about fuse
[03:05] <ricky> what's that?
[03:06] <FantasticFoo> can anybody please help me?
[03:06] <slavik> ladydoor: rofl
[03:06] <LjL> ricky: what's what?
[03:06] <gyop> ladydoor: thank you
[03:06] <Pelo> FantasticFoo,  it would be helpfull if you stated your problem
[03:06] <FantasticFoo> it would be kinda nice to boot up without kernel panic
[03:06] <riddlebox> variant, ok, well rebooting and setting my apt sources we will see
[03:06] <FantasticFoo> Pelo: i did
[03:06] <FantasticFoo> i'll say it again
[03:06] <variant> riddlebox: gl
[03:07] <ladydoor> slavik: just remember to tell the storm troopers that ubotu isn't the droid they're looking for. ok, i'm done.
[03:07] <ricky> decryption algorithm
[03:07] <ladydoor> gyop: np...
[03:07] <FantasticFoo> after upgrading to edgy, i get a kernel panic at bootup
[03:07] <ricky> how i can get it?
[03:07] <LjL> ricky: by downloading a program that implements it.
[03:08] <frediie> tried reinstalling FantasticFoo
[03:08] <ricky> ok
[03:08] <john83> ubuntu is not respecting my appilcation settings
[03:08] <john83> it keeps wanting to open movies in that stupid totem player
[03:08] <john83> I HATE TOTEM
[03:08] <john83> how do I make all open with mplayer?
[03:08] <LjL> and i hate caps
[03:08] <bsnider> does anyone know the flag to compile mplayer with tv support?
[03:08] <crimsun> bsnider: read ./configure --help
[03:09] <riddlebox> variant, it says libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b direct rendering: Yes??
[03:09] <john83> bsnider: ./configure --help
[03:09] <ladydoor> john83: use the command line? or start mplayer and then select the movie from its interface (if any)?
[03:09] <Pelo> john83,  pick a movie,  rightclick   > open with > select mplayer
[03:09] <Pelo> john83,  you'll probably have to do it with each movie format
[03:09] <john83> These are workarounds, not fixes.
[03:09] <lullabud> Krazy882:  that's definitely an option.  check your /etc/network/interfaces, and your ... um....
[03:09] <Kazero>  http://ubuntufreak.blogspot.com/ <-- im following those instructions and im stuck on step 4. Can someone help me?
[03:09] <john83> I want to single-click the movie and have it open with mplayer.  It seems that some are, but anything on a remote network share is openeing instead in totem
[03:10] <john83> LjL: I bet you hate poetry too.
[03:10] <lullabud> Krazy882:  /etc/modules
[03:10] <LjL> john83: you lose
[03:10] <john83> LjL: well you obviously hate expression
[03:10] <Pelo> Kazero,  from the terminal,  and those aren'T two lines they are one line commands
[03:11] <variant> riddlebox: yeah, thats ok. nothing to worry about
[03:11] <variant> riddlebox: i get that too
[03:11] <Kazero> Pelo: I am trying that
[03:11] <variant> riddlebox: i have a rather cool setup :)
[03:11] <Kazero> sudo wget http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/quinn.key.asc -O | sudo apt-key add -
[03:11] <variant> riddlebox: aiglx and all
[03:11] <Kazero> Thats what I type and it gives me an error
[03:11] <riddlebox> variant, all I want is tv out, do you know anything about that?
[03:11] <valehru> Hey guys, I've tried everything on this distro and I cannot get my wireless card even recognised...
[03:11] <Pelo> Kazero,  donT' type , copy and paste
[03:12] <john83> valehru: plug it in, then type dmesg | tail in a terminal
[03:12] <gyop> hey, i need some divx codes and i found it. extract to folder and i install it in terminal with runing "./instal.sh".
[03:12] <gyop> how can i uninstall it?
[03:12] <variant> riddlebox: that is a different matter.
[03:12] <LjL> john83, i don't think, i do hate it when my carefully-chosen regexp highlights, to make me get a sense from the channel and have an idea of what's going on at a glance, become useless because someone types a sentence in all capitals thus shouting it over everybody else's
[03:12] <variant> riddlebox: that may not work by default. afaik the proprietry drivers dont alwasy support it either
[03:12] <john83> gyop: read the install script and hope you can uninstall it.  next time use apt
[03:12] <Pelo> gyop,   have you tried ./remove ?
[03:12] <variant> !tvout
[03:12] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out on certain NVidia cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition
[03:13] <john83> LjL: I advise you to get over it?  :-*  It's difficult to express in text, hence *bold* or CAPITALS might be used.
[03:13] <gyop> hmm john83, =o\
[03:13] <gyop> Pelo no i didn't. now im trying..
[03:13] <LjL> john83, i'd get over it if the channel rules didn't say i'm right
[03:13] <LjL> !caps
[03:13] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:14] <john83> LjL: You know where you can shove your channel rules.  there's a difference between shouting and emphasizing
[03:14] <LjL> where john83?
[03:14] <ladydoor> john83: please just stop now. there's no need to get hostile.
[03:14] <[DFC] Eggman> but you were shouting
[03:14] <john83> LjL: take a guess.
[03:14] <Kazero> Peno: That worked, thanks
[03:15] <Pelo> ...
[03:15] <Kazero> Pelo*
[03:15] <ChocoCid> ops egging users on :(
[03:15] <Pelo> you're welcome
[03:15] <LjL> spend some minutes reading the guidelines please john83
[03:15] <lwizardl> what causes this error "Could not open a connection to your authentication agent." but I'm ssh loged in
[03:15] <livingdaylight> gnomebaker is frozen.   I don' tknow bashburn, but K3B is awesome
[03:18] <valehru> slavik, well I blacklisted the bcm43xx driver....I attempted to use every ndiswrapper driver I could find...but none seem to work.
[03:18] <ladydoor> livingdaylight: i don't know that it's inferior so much as not as developed yet.
[03:18] <slavik> valehru: ndiswrapper is not a solution ...
[03:19] <ChocoCid> broadcom :(
[03:19] <slavik> uh oh?
[03:19] <lwizardl> why is it when it comes to a ubuntu desktop everyone is able to help, but when it comes to a web server no one ever answers anything, what you guys automatically think its someone trying to break into a machine?
[03:19] <slavik> LjL: may I ask?
[03:19] <valehru> slavik, so what would you recommend?  I had it working perfectly on dapper before....now it comes to edgy and its screwed up.
[03:19] <wd> nalioth hey long time for me, what's up?
[03:19] <ChocoCid> would presume pm's
[03:19] <livingdaylight> ladydoor, not as developed is a euphemism for it sux
[03:19] <LjL> slavik: yes
[03:19] <slavik> LjL: what did he have to knoe better about?
[03:19] <slavik> know*
[03:20] <wd> ChocoCid,  whats up?
[03:20] <jrib> lwizardl: it's more likely that no one knows the answer
[03:20] <ChocoCid> not much
[03:20] <ladydoor> livingdaylight: well...that's one way of looking at it, i guess. i just associate "inferior" with "inherently lesser" rather than "under development"
[03:20] <LjL> slavik: that's just my standard ban message.
[03:20] <slavik> :(
[03:20] <slavik> LjL: do you think there is a market for Linux Games?
[03:20] <LjL> slavik: i don't know, i'd say yes, but i'm not a marketeer
[03:21] <ChocoCid> there's a market
[03:21] <nalioth> wd: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:21] <slavik> personal opionion ...
[03:21] <ChocoCid> alt.org/nethack !
[03:21] <zerosmok1> yes
[03:21] <zerosmok1> there is
[03:21] <wd> nalioth,  u know i need ur help huh?  lol i'm going.
[03:21] <slavik> hmm, I wish my IP address was <IP_ADDRESS> :D
[03:21] <asdf_> i installed kubuntu-desktop and it screwed up my human theme in gnome does anyone know where I can get the original human gtk for dapper?
[03:21] <iter> <IP_ADDRESS> is reserved
[03:21] <ChocoCid> with ipv6 you have a shot at <IP_ADDRESS>.1.1 !
[03:21] <dk0r> Is this guide safe for a linux user? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36653.html
[03:22] <ChocoCid> (though it'll probably get reserved)
[03:22] <slavik> valehru: bcm43xx is the solution ... although not elegant
[03:22] <shadowhywind> anyone know of a good program to recover files lost on a harddrive
[03:22] <sidewalk`> hell, bcm43xx is no solution
[03:22] <sidewalk`> im having lots of problems with it
[03:22] <ladydoor> dk0r: playing around with xorg.conf is always risky, but it's not going to destroy the world if you make backups
[03:22] <sidewalk`> cant get my damn wlan-card working
[03:22] <variant> anyone know if there are any alternative boot splashes except the three ubuntu ones?
[03:22] <asdf_> anyone know where to install the human gtk theme?
[03:22] <slavik> sidewalk`: ndiswrapper is a workaround ... a dirty one at that
[03:22] <sidewalk`> slavik: im trying, but its not helping
[03:23] <valehru> slavik, would ya mind helping me get it up and running then?
[03:23] <Daylighter> Hey all
[03:23] <Krazy882> lullabud:  ok, I got it!!!!  Here is what I did.
[03:23] <sidewalk`> my damn orange light in the front of the laptop wont start blinking
[03:23] <sidewalk`> i have an acer aspire 502x
[03:23] <variant> shadowhywind: yeah, magicrescue. i used it to recover about 500 out of 510 files from a digital camera, but you can use it on any storage medium
[03:23] <ladydoor> dk0r: just make sure you back up any important file before playing with it, and then if something breaks, but your original back in place (and maybe back up the modified one so you can try to figure out what went wrong)
[03:23] <Alethes> anybody know if the latest evolution struggles with imap?
[03:23] <variant> shadowhywind: all the images had previously been deleeted
[03:23] <Krazy882> Because a new NIC was found. Ubuntu put it on as ETH1 INSTEAD of ETH0
[03:23] <Kazero> So ive determined that XGL doesnt work for everyone
[03:23] <lullabud> Krazy882:  ah-ha
[03:23] <shadowhywind> its not pictures i am trying to recover, is that a problem?
[03:24] <slavik> valehru: install the fwcutter thingy
[03:24] <dk0r> ladydoor: How do I that in the console? 'cp file dir' and thats all?
[03:24] <Kazero> http://ubuntufreak.blogspot.com/ <-- Doesnt work in my Edgy VMWare copy
[03:24] <variant> shadowhywind: no, what file type is it?
[03:24] <slavik> !bcom
[03:24] <Krazy882> simply change the /etc/network/interfaces accordingly...  Wa LA!!!!
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bcom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <slavik> !broadcomm
[03:24] <ChocoCid> !broadcom
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broadcomm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:24] <ChocoCid> spell it right and it might work :P
[03:24] <dk0r> ladydoor: Is there a way to copy the file I want to backup into the same dir as the original and compress it ?
[03:24] <ladydoor> dk0r: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[03:24] <slavik> :P
[03:24] <at0m> whats the coool gmail app that checks ur gmail mail for linux? :)
[03:24] <shadowhywind> its a password file, from a program called keepass
[03:24] <dk0r> ladydoor: what does .bak do ?
[03:24] <variant> at0m: apt-cache search gmail
[03:24] <ChocoCid> gmail-notify
[03:24] <Katie> is it possible to get starcraft to open in just a window instead of full screen on wine?
[03:24] <Krazy882> lyllabud:  Thanks man!  you were the key to figuring it al out.
[03:24] <at0m> thanks
[03:24] <valehru> !Broadcom
[03:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:24] <dk0r> ladydoor: makes a copy and add's .bak as extension ?
[03:24] <ladydoor> dk0r: then after that you could do sudo bzip2 /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[03:24] <ChocoCid> Katie: open it from within winefile, maybe?
[03:24] <slavik> run that script
[03:24] <Pelo> at0m,   evolution can check your gmail
[03:25] <slavik> then modprobe bcm43xx
[03:25] <variant> Katie: i dont know about that but you can always launch it in a nested xserver
[03:25] <Krazy882> gotta run now.  Hear a wife comming home.
[03:25] <shadowhywind> the person with the broacom chip, what chip do you have?
[03:25] <ladydoor> dk0r: the way cp works is this:  cp <originalfile> <newfile>
[03:25] <Krazy882> thanks all!
[03:25] <sidewalk`> which script?
[03:25] <dk0r> ladydoor: i understand.
[03:25] <lullabud> Krazy882:  well you did all the hard work so you're the one who deserves the credit :)
[03:25] <slavik> Krazy882: show her ubuntu :)
[03:25] <boohoo> if I have patch file, can i just do patch someFile.patch * in my directory, and it will apply patches correct?
[03:25] <variant> shadowhywind: what kind of files is it?
[03:25] <slavik> sidewalk`: above
[03:25] <slavik> oops
[03:25] <ladydoor> dk0r: you could change the name to /etc/X11/pudding if you wanted, but .bak is easier to remember
[03:25] <slavik>  /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[03:25] <dk0r> ladydoor: I wasnt aware changing the format of the copy was so easy.
[03:25] <Krazy882> lullabud:  sometimes all we need is an ear.  you da man!
[03:25] <sidewalk`> i dont have fwcutter in my apt-get install
[03:25] <ladydoor> dk0r: that doesn't change the format, it just notes that it's a backup copy
[03:26] <at0m> does everyone have lag when trying to move windows like firefox around in a circle fairly fast or is it just me?
[03:26] <Katie> so look up nested xserver... k
[03:26] <valehru> slavik, thanks, never knew this page existed...it should be marked as a sticky in the How to Section..
[03:26] <Pelo> at0m, you can find instructions for setup of clients in the gmail site , you need to enable gmail for retreval , there are no specific instructions for evolution on the site take the info from the other clent  instruions
[03:26] <slavik> sidewalk`: check if the script is there
[03:26] <Kazero> Anyone know of a way I can fix this? I have XGL installed using this guide: http://ubuntufreak.blogspot.com/ . When I try and start using XGL, the screen flashes, artifacts go nuts, gnome loads, then it pops back to the login page
[03:26] <Daylighter> anyone know of a good audio player that manages my library better than xmms?
[03:26] <ladydoor> dk0r: bzip2, however, will compress it and add .bz2 at the end of the .bak
[03:26] <shadowhywind> its a .key and .kdb
[03:26] <slavik> sidewalk`: or make sure you have universe and multiverse enabled
[03:26] <at0m> running kubuntu , does it have evolution?
[03:26] <variant> shadowhywind: what are those? text based documents or some encryption stuff or what?
[03:26] <slavik> at0m: it will if you install it ;)
[03:26] <ladydoor> dk0r: however, xorg.conf is not a very large file, so unless you're pressed for space i wouldn't bother with compression.
[03:26] <[DFC] Eggman> Kazero: Try using the wiki's guide
[03:27] <variant> shadowhywind: unless they contain predictable headers and footers then it will be hard to recover
[03:27] <Kazero> [DFC] Eggman: Link?
[03:27] <CharlieSu> has anyone used encryption with the live CD for their /home partition?
[03:27] <shadowhywind> one is a text and one is a encryption
[03:27] <sidewalk`> slavik: how do i check if i have universe enabled ?
[03:27] <sidewalk`> slavik: i tried doing that earlier, but it didnt work
[03:27] <slavik> !repositories
[03:27] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:27] <slavik> !easysource
[03:27] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:27] <ladydoor> dk0r: good luck...and if you'll excuse me, i have to go. have a nice evening.
[03:27] <variant> shadowhywind: forget the encryption key - it's gone. the other file.. what kind of text? is it a document with formatting or is it just plain text?
[03:27] <dk0r> ladydoor: lets say I do 'sudo cp x/x/1 x/x/2.bak' 1 is a jpg. So will the copy end up looking like this, 2.jpg or like this? 2.jpg.bak
[03:27] <ssokolow> I'm trying to set up my brother's nVidia-based machine with Ubuntu but it only gives me a 640x480 desktop and Ubiquity seems to need at least 800x600. Does Ubiquity offer an ncurses-based mode or should I use that X11 option to have a desktop bigger than the screen? (and in the latter case, what was the xorg.conf option for that? I forget.)
[03:27] <rc-1> mplayer firefox plugin installed, but wont open up videos :( i also have installed realplayer10
[03:28] <shadowhywind> i don't really know
[03:28] <variant> shadowhywind: ok, what program created it?
[03:28] <CharlieSu> Any encryption buffs in the channel tonight?  I'm trying to use the Alternate CD to setup an encrypted partition...  But the option doesn't show on the expert mode.. Please Hehlp
[03:28] <variant> CharlieSu: that's not an option included in the installer unfortunatly
[03:28] <shadowhywind> keepass, its a windows program
[03:28] <at0m> linux using 2GB of my memory. im shocked
[03:28] <lwizardl> I have a ubuntu webserver I setup I can login using ssh when connected via the same network but if I try to login from a outside network i get permission denied using the same login/pass. Anyone know whats going on? I can login using ssh but if i try ssh-add IPADDRESS i get "Could not open a connection to your authentication agent."
[03:28] <slavik> dk0r: 2.bak in that case
[03:28] <variant> shadowhywind: I am not familliar with it. how was the file lost? was it deleeted?
[03:29] <LjL> at0m: it tries to make efficient use of memory, yes
[03:29] <ssokolow> at0m: You are aware that Linux tries to use as much memory as possible, using "unused memory" for buffers, right?
[03:29] <variant> lwizardl: firewall rule blocking you?
[03:29] <shadowhywind> i had the file on my ipod, which i then reformated and forgot to copy the file off
[03:29] <CharlieSu> variant, the install docs say that it is.. Do you want the URL?
[03:29] <quinnster> No Wifi -- Ubuntu 6.10 on Toshiba Satellite P25-S507 (Atheros AR5001X <ar5211 chipeset>).  It doesn't even see ath0/wifi0.  It works on similar model without issues.  Can anyone point me in the right direction on what I need to do?  Thanks.
[03:29] <at0m> no. good to know :)
[03:29] <slavik> lwizardl: use firestarter to open the port and are you behind a firewall router?
[03:29] <variant> at0m: yes, the memory actualy being activly used is not more than you might expect
[03:30] <CharlieSu> variant, go here..  It says you can with the Alternate CD, but i Can't seem to find it.. https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/module-details.html
[03:30] <slavik> at0m: check top for real memory usage ...
[03:30] <boohoo> eduhat: compiled!
[03:30] <slavik> because a library used by 2 apps, even if laoded once, can be counted 2 times
[03:30] <shadowhywind> how would i use magic recover?
[03:30] <nohop> fd
[03:31] <at0m> "top"? im looking at xubuntu system monitor
[03:31] <slavik> my edgy uses only 100MB of swap ...
[03:31] <slavik> at0m: in terminal :)
[03:31] <slavik> press 'q' to quit
[03:31] <slavik> top
[03:31] <dusk_> !mx518
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mx518 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <dusk_> !logitech
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <dusk_> jdksalf
[03:32] <Xenguy> die
[03:32] <quinnster> !atheros
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atheros - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[03:32] <CharlieSu> variant
[03:32] <CharlieSu> did you see link?
[03:33] <at0m> sharing swap drive between ubuntu and kbuntu isnt an issue, right ?
[03:33] <quinnster> nope
[03:33] <variant> CharlieSu: sorry no
[03:33] <variant> CharlieSu: again please?
[03:33] <Flannel> at0m: you should share a normal drive.  They overlap by about 80%
[03:33] <zerosmok1> don't think so
[03:33] <slavik> at0m: shouldn't be ...
[03:33] <at0m> can someone do me a favor / test ???? .... try moving a firefox window around rapidly in a circle... see if you chunk to crap....
[03:33] <CharlieSu> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/module-details.html
[03:34] <CharlieSu> it shows that you can do encryption...  search on that page
[03:34] <variant> CharlieSu: ah, cool. didnt know it was included. thnx
[03:34] <at0m> or any rather large window
[03:34] <zerosmok1> at0m, what ram you got?
[03:34] <variant> CharlieSu: yeah, doesnt mean i know how to do it :P
[03:34] <CharlieSu> variant, it doesn't work for me.. I don't see it when trying to install.. but it is in the docs
[03:34] <at0m> 2GB .. all being used apparently.
[03:34] <Flannel> at0m: install ubuntu, then apt-get kubuntu-desktop (or other wayaround) You don't need to dualboot for ubuntu and kubuntu.
[03:34] <CharlieSu> is debian-installer what i'm using when i do expert mode on the alternate cd?
[03:35] <dk0r> Help! I do not have the permissions to save /etc/X11/xorg.confg which Im edited in gedit.
[03:35] <Flannel> CharlieSu: alternate CD is debian installer, yes.  Or, probably anyway.  Where is it referenced?
[03:35] <at0m> cool. thnx for tip flannel
[03:35] <zerosmok1> at0m: 2GB don't think you should have a problem
[03:35] <Flannel> dk0r: use gksudo to start gedit
[03:35] <quinnster> Can anyone give me any tips on installing an atheros driver?  Ubuntu 6.10
[03:35] <at0m> did someone do the test in 6.10 ?
[03:35] <dk0r> Flannel: what is gksudo ?
[03:35] <dk0r> Flannel: gk?
[03:35] <Flannel> dk0r: it'll run gedit with full perms
[03:35] <CharlieSu> Flannel, I'm trying to use encryption on the alternate CD for my /home directory linke shown in https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/module-details.html but I don't see it as an option.. Am i doing something wrong?
[03:36] <zerosmok1> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.confg
[03:36] <zerosmok1> should get you in
[03:36] <Flannel> zerosmok1: no, gksudo
[03:36] <Baconbutty> Oh goody, xchat put me into the ubuntu chat by default. My question is I have a TV tuner card, but I don't know what it is! What command do I use to get a list of PCI cards and their names?
[03:36] <dk0r> Flannel: does gedit not have permissions because the file is currentlly being used?
[03:36] <Pelo> dk0r,  gksu or gksudo is a way to get gui application to run in root
[03:36] <Flannel> dk0r: no, gedit normally doesn't have permissions becuase you're opening it as your user, not the super user
[03:37] <dk0r> Flannel: thanks.
[03:37] <dk0r> Pelo: sudo=su
[03:37] <dk0r> ?
[03:37] <CharlieSu> variant, if you figure it out and let me know I would really apprtiate it..  Or let me know another irc channel where i can ask
[03:37] <Pelo> dk0r,  more or less
[03:37] <Flannel> dk0r: sort of
[03:37] <dk0r> what does the gk in gksu/sudo stand for ?
[03:37] <Flannel> CharlieSu: yeah.  The alternate CD
[03:38] <Pelo> dk0r,   the gk stand for gtk which is the gui manager or something
[03:38] <CharlieSu> Flannel, I'm using the alternative CD but don't have the option.. Am I supposed to do something special?
[03:38] <dk0r> Pelo: So I have a few options. 'gksu gedit', 'gksudo gedit' and 'sudo gedit'
[03:39] <dk0r> Pelo: correct?
[03:39] <Baconbutty> Okay, no commands? Is there a program I can apt get or that comes with the OS itself that tells me what hardware I have installed and if there's drivers for it?
[03:39] <Pelo> dk0r, yeah
[03:39] <Flannel> CharlieSu: Are you in the Partition Setting menu?
[03:39] <ChocoCid> preferably don't do sudo for graphical applications
[03:39] <ne78> I'm running debian etch i would like to upgrade to ubuntu edgy/eft (i'm a very experienced user i can play with dpkg is needed), is there an howto ? (reinstallation is not an option and i don't have a cd drive)
[03:39] <ChocoCid> sometimes there are issues with that
[03:39] <dk0r> Pelo: /me uses the shortest.
[03:39] <air0day> Is there a tutorial somewhere for how to setup CIFS?  I have a Wester Digital Netcenter drive, and regular smbfs isn't working for me.
[03:39] <CharlieSu> yes..
[03:39] <CharlieSu> Flannel, 6.10 is that okay?
[03:39] <Flannel> !upgrade | ne78, there's a debian to ubuntu thing on this page, I think.
[03:39] <ubotu> ne78, there's a debian to ubuntu thing on this page, I think.: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:39] <Nestor> hola alguien que me pueda ayudar con ubuntu
[03:40] <Flannel> !es | Nestor
[03:40] <ubotu> Nestor: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:40] <Nestor> thanks
[03:40] <dk0r> dk0r@ubuntu:/etc/X11$ gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:40] <dk0r> (gedit:6035): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[03:40] <dk0r> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[03:40] <dk0r> The file opened anyways, and I was able to save it.
[03:40] <ne78> Flannel: mmh not very helpful
[03:40] <dk0r> \Why the error ?
[03:40] <bruenig> dk0r, it is a bug, it means nothing
[03:41] <dk0r> bruenig: a gnome bug?
[03:41] <Katie> Can someone please pm me to help me install a gfx driver :/ im having troubles getting it to work properly
[03:41] <Flannel> ne78: er, sorry.  I meant this one
[03:41] <Flannel> !install | ne78
[03:41] <ubotu> ne78: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:41] <jrib> dk0r: it's a warninng, you can ignore it
[03:41] <bruenig> dk0r, go to the bottom of this page http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[03:41] <variant> CharlieSu: sorry, i am a bit busy to do that rightnow. i dont know of any other chan.. best you google it in the mean time
[03:41] <ricky> can someone tell me how decrypt a message?
[03:42] <ne78> Flannel: thanks but i know how to use google if i ask here it's because i couldn't find anything with google
[03:42] <Pelo> ricky, try looking it up in the forum
[03:42] <Flannel> ne78: er. what?  The Installation wiki page... it's not google.
[03:42] <CharlieSu> Flannel, I am in the partition settings menu..  When i select a drive it doesn't give that option..  Any help?
[03:42] <dk0r> bruenig: Thats a good site. Im new to nix and have been using it alot. He speaks english. English is good!
[03:42] <jrib> ricky: it depends on how something is encrypted
[03:43] <blehnarfdjfkl> okay, i'm experiencing the problem that's been pretty well documented in edgy about vncpassword 'dissapearing' after each reboot.  Thing is, right now i can hit the PC running ubuntu and it prompts me for authentication.  Doe anyone know what this password is?!?!  (my password isn't working - is there a consistent 'broken' one i can use?)
[03:43] <Flannel> CharlieSu: sorry, I have no idea.
[03:43] <qc_> Hello - does anyone know of a terminal that will alow true ANSI font, or how do i make ansi fonts work with ubuntu??? - the irc client bitchx looks horrible unless its running true ansi
[03:43] <CharlieSu> Flannel, do youthink it is possible that it was left out in 6.10 ?
[03:44] <blehnarfdjfkl> heh
[03:44] <bruenig> CharlieSu, I partitioned mine in edgy
[03:44] <eon__> qc_ i have no problems with irssi
[03:44] <Flannel> CharlieSu: doubt it.  This is a new document for edgy, as far as Im aware
[03:44] <qc_> eon__,  i dont think irssi uses ansi - but i prefer bx ;/
[03:45] <knix_> When i go to purevolume.com to listen to music firefox wont play it?
[03:45] <air0day> What's the best way of mounting a folder on my network hard drive to something local in linux?
[03:45] <blehnarfdjfkl> hmm.  nobody?
[03:45] <quinnster> Are ndiswrapper and madwifi the same?  Different?  If different, any recommendations for the one I should use?  Thanks!
[03:45] <ortega10> i have this problem, the ooo2 quickstart tray icon doesn't persist after i restart my system, and i don't know how to restart it in the commandline... any ideas?
[03:45] <eon__> bx is for homosexuals
[03:45] <qc_> lol
[03:45] <bruenig> lol
[03:45] <eon__> qc_: and that hebrew rapper guy, i am pretty sure he uses bx
[03:46] <bruenig> yeah if you like using bitchx, you might want to just go here http://gaybuntu.com/
[03:46] <ChocoCid> ...
[03:46] <Flannel> !offtopic
[03:46] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:46] <blehnarfdjfkl> okay, i'm experiencing the problem that's been pretty well documented in edgy about vncpassword 'dissapearing' after each reboot.  Thing is, right now i can hit the PC running ubuntu and it prompts me for authentication.  Doe anyone know what this password is?!?!  (my password isn't working - is there a consistent 'broken' one i can use?)
[03:46] <qc_> eh - some people prefer xchat, others irssi, others bx, - i just like bx.
[03:46] <MaHaGoN> Hey guys :)
[03:46] <Kazero> Oh noes! Anyone have a guide to UNinstalling XGL?
[03:47] <ChocoCid> i find it funny how gaybuntu and ubuntu christian edition both exist -_-
[03:47] <Kazero> I cant use gnome because XGL is broke
[03:47] <Pelo> blehnarfdjfkl,  try  user : ubuntu  pswrd  blanck
[03:47] <Flannel> Kazero: #ubuntu-xgl
[03:47] <scorp007> i'm having trouble setting up my ati drivers in Edgy, using a radeon 9600 xt
[03:47] <blehnarfdjfkl> ChocoCid - there is a serious christian edition?
[03:47] <blehnarfdjfkl> what does it do?
[03:47] <ChocoCid> yes
[03:47] <ChocoCid> uh
[03:47] <ChocoCid> it has a bible in it and puts the jesus fish in the logo
[03:47] <scorp007> its still using mesa
[03:47] <Flannel> guys, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:48] <MaHaGoN> lol, it adds bible stuff, and a different logo, bah, Choco always beats me :-P
[03:48] <LjL> i was just going to say that
[03:48] <blehnarfdjfkl> heh
[03:48] <blehnarfdjfkl> neat.
[03:48] <Pelo> blehnarfdjfkl,   comes with bible stuff and a heavy handed parental control internet thingy
[03:48] <LjL> and no insults masked as comments about a program please
[03:48] <bruenig_> !patience
[03:48] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:50] <bruenig> all ubuntu problems have been solved again, hooray
[03:50] <ChocoCid> heh
[03:51] <scorp007> hmm.. i even got the script from ati.com and that fails to run
[03:51] <scorp007> gives me some shell error.
[03:51] <TLE_02> scorp007: what script ?
[03:51] <scorp007> TLE_02: ati-driver-installer-8.26.18-x86.run
[03:52] <scorp007> and this is the error: ./ati-installer.sh: 163: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[03:52] <scorp007> i have a 9600 XT, if that helps.
[03:52] <joel_> LIST
[03:54] <emilia> hey guys i have two ubuntu computers, i have them both networked and i can ping both of them, i right clicked on a folder and shared it, but does anyone know how i can see that folder from the other computer?
[03:54] <TLE_02> scorp007: Yes it is because, as of Edgy they have changed the link that the script is run with from bash (i think) to dash, try and do a search on it and there probably are a way to get around it
[03:54] <scorp007> dash? is that a shell?
[03:55] <lwizardl> I have a ubuntu webserver I setup I can login using ssh when connected via the same network but if I try to login from a outside network i get permission denied using the same login/pass. Anyone know whats going on? I can login using ssh but if i try ssh-add IPADDRESS i get "Could not open a connection to your authentication agent."
[03:55] <Lahey> y Ubuntu?
[03:55] <automatix> !es
[03:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:55] <SpAc> excellent news... upgraded to the latest Nvidia drivers... all is well :)
[03:55] <lifepositive> hi
[03:56] <SpAc> it's even got a utility to set up the twinview dual display
[03:56] <LjL> !nickspam | automatixdestroy
[03:56] <ubotu> automatixdestroy: changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu can get you removed - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users, the same goes for using noisy away see (/msg ubotu away) for more details "/away reason" sets your client away silently, thanks
[03:56] <quinnster> Does anyone have experience with Atheros WiFi drivers?  On one laptop with AR5211 chipset it worked out of the box.  On another it isn't working.  Any ideas?  Thanks.
[03:56] <neobonzi_> hey all, why does ndiswrapper tell me that the hardware for the driver i installed is not there?
[03:56] <SpAc> now... time for Beryl :)
[03:56] <lifepositive> Lahey: hello there
[03:56] <automatixdestroy> sorry ubotu
[03:57] <Kazero> Does anyone know if you run ubuntu in VMWare, what does it make the video card? Does it make an emulated VMWare video, or does it use the host video card
[03:57] <quinnster> i believe emulated--not your host.
[03:57] <automatixdestroy> kazero, emulated
[03:57] <LjL> Kazero: emulated. of course in the end it uses the host's card, but...
[03:57] <Lahey> hello
[03:57] <scorp007> TLE_02: i can't seem to find what you mean, can you be more specific?
[03:57] <CharlieSu> Any pros out there setup dm-crypt with the Alternative CD in expert mode before?
[03:57] <TLE_02> scorp007: can you edit the script ?
[03:58] <scorp007> yes i can
[03:58] <TLE_02> scorp007: and does it have #!/bin/sh as the first line ?
[03:58] <scorp007> i tried once changing: #!/bin/sh to #!/bin/bash
[03:58] <scorp007> but it didnt affect anything
[03:58] <Lahey> lifepositive: hello!
[03:59] <scorp007> same error: ./ati-installer.sh: 163: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[03:59] <neobonzi_> can someone tell me why ndiswrapper doesnt match the driver i installed with my wireless card?
[03:59] <ortega10> i have this problem, the ooo2 quickstart tray icon doesn't persist after i restart my system, and i don't know how to restart it in the commandline... any ideas ?
[03:59] <Lahey> does anybody know anything about Mosix running on Ubuntu
[03:59] <TLE_02> scorp007: well that would have been my suggestion, I'm sure I've read somewhere else that it is the reason it is not running. Why do you need it anyway, can't you install the packages in the repo ?
[04:00] <scorp007> i can, do you mean the xorg-fglrx-...?
[04:00] <systest> Odd, did an upgrade in edgy and kernel went from -generic to -i386 on my athlon system = loss of SMP. Any ideas why that happened?
[04:00] <scorp007> i tried, but it still uses Mesa i think
[04:00] <TLE_02> scorp007: or do you want the newest ?
[04:00] <scorp007> unless i did something wrong
[04:00] <ubuntu_bunny> morning all
[04:00] <scorp007> TLE_02: i dont really care, i just want 3d acceleration
[04:00] <TLE_02> scorp007: I think you should explore that first, 2 sek
[04:01] <jumassillia> Hi everyone anyone on IBM T40 ????
[04:01] <scorp007> TLE_02: i did explore that first. I mgiht have screwed something up though, dunno
[04:01] <bruenig> !anyone
[04:01] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:01] <valehru> !Broadcom
[04:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:01] <mitrovarr> I'm having a bit of a sound error.  I used to be using an integrated soundcard, but now I'm trying to use a physical one.  Everything appears correct but no sound is present.
[04:01] <ftp4you> how do i install codecs into mplayer so that it works (should it work right out repos)
[04:01] <ubuntu_bunny> I just started up Ubuntu Live and need to copy my windows folders across for back to a a caddy but I can't seem to locate them... can some1 tell me wjere to look ..... I need all my photo's and Doc's PLZZZzzzz
[04:02] <ftp4you> i've installed win32 codecs
[04:02] <mitrovarr> I know from previous testing that the current soundcard is good and linux compatible
[04:02] <ftp4you> and there in the /usr/lib/win32
[04:02] <riddlebox> can anyone help me with some logical volume stuff?
[04:02] <scorp007> TLE_02: ok, i installed xorg-fglrx-* again
[04:02] <quinnster> Is anyone using Ubuntu 6.10 on a laptop with WiFi/Atheros?
[04:02] <pknutz> hey scorp007
[04:02] <bruenig> riddlebox, what about it?
[04:02] <crimsun> mitrovarr: pastebin output from the following: asoundconf list && amixer
[04:02] <pknutz> hey Riddell
[04:02] <pknutz> hey riddlebox
[04:02] <LjL> !anyone | riddlebox, quinnster
[04:02] <ubotu> riddlebox, quinnster: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:02] <pknutz> hey quinnster
[04:02] <pknutz> hi LjL
[04:02] <pknutz> hi all
[04:02] <scorp007> pknutz: yes?
[04:02] <LjL> !hi
[04:02] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:03] <riddlebox> bruenig, when I do lvdisplay it shows my volume, but how do I get it to show up in df?
[04:03] <pknutz> scorp007, how do i configure my X to run mwm with menus
[04:03] <Tokamak> i'm new to linux, can someone help me get audio?
[04:03] <bruenig> riddlebox, ah, not sure
[04:03] <TLE_02> scorp007: there are a lot of troubleshooting info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI and here: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[04:03] <ftp4you>  w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[04:03] <ftp4you> has been installed
[04:03] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell tokamak about sound
[04:03] <systest> riddlebox: have you mounted it?
[04:03] <scorp007> TLE_02: hmm, i looked at the first link, will try the second
[04:03] <bruenig> Tokamak, what do you mean audio, as in you never hear any sound or do you mean you can't hear mp3s or certain filetypes?
[04:03] <riddlebox> systest, I guess not
[04:03] <pknutz> anyone guys
[04:03] <Tokamak> no audio at all
[04:03] <riddlebox> pknutz,  hey
[04:04] <systest> riddlebox: that would explain it
[04:04] <bruenig> Tokamak, yeah look at that message you got from ubotu
[04:04] <mitrovarr> crimsun:  http://pastebin.com/824697
[04:04] <Tokamak> k
[04:05] <riddlebox> systest, lvdisplay shows /dev/vg/myth, how would I mount it?
[04:05] <crimsun> mitrovarr: any errors with ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' ?
[04:05] <rc-1> oh holy hell democracy is taking up 2.2 GIGS of memory and 40 percent PC
[04:05] <JSeligstein> Howdy folks... trying to get stuff to compile on ubuntu, and getting an aclocal error: "macro AMPROG_AS not found in library".  Anyone have any ideas?
[04:05] <rc-1> is there a support channel for it
[04:05] <systest> riddlebox: same as any "real" device mount /dev/fg/myth /some/mount/point
[04:06] <systest> riddlebox: of course you have to put a file system there first
[04:06] <riddlebox> systest, it is there, how do I get it to mount at boot?
[04:06] <systest> riddlebox: e.g. mke2fs -j -m0 /dev/fg/myth
[04:06] <systest> riddlebox: modify /etc/fstab
[04:06] <crimsun> mitrovarr: back in an hour
[04:07] <mitrovarr> crimsun:  My bad, it turns out this old soundcard violates color conventions.   One of my earlier solutions fixed it.
[04:07] <crimsun> ok
[04:07] <lwizardl> can anyone help me? I've been trying to figure this out now for 4 days and not once has anyone even attempted to help me
[04:07] <andy_on_ubuntu> Hello
[04:07] <MaHaGoN> what is your problem lwizardl
[04:07] <Pelo> hello andy_on_ubuntu
[04:07] <lwizardl> I have a ubuntu webserver I setup I can login using ssh when connected via the same network but if I try to login from a outside network i get permission denied using the same login/pass. Anyone know whats going on? I can login using ssh but if i try ssh-add IPADDRESS i get "Could not open a connection to your authentication agent."
[04:07] <AdamKili> hey is there any good, easy-to-use open source virtual computer thingie like VMware Server?
[04:07] <riddlebox> systest, does that mke2fs line format it for a journaling filesystem?
[04:07] <mitrovarr> I had it plugged into the wrong jack
[04:08] <bruenig> AdamKili, open source, probably not
[04:08] <MaHaGoN> Let me see what I can come up with lwizardl
[04:08] <systest> riddlebox: yes, that's what the "-j" is for
[04:08] <scorp007> umm, is this normal? $ modprobe fglrx
[04:08] <scorp007> FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx
[04:08] <AdamKili> aahhh.......is VMware the best and easiest you know about?
[04:08] <bruenig> scorp007, generally something that begins with all caps fatal is not normal
[04:08] <quinnster> vmware -- qemu ?
[04:08] <scorp007> bruenig: thats what i thouhgt, any help on how to resolve it?
[04:09] <bruenig> no
[04:09] <DjViper> *meep*
[04:09] <ortega10> i have this problem, the ooo2 quickstart tray icon doesn't persist after i restart my system, and i don't know how to restart it in the commandline... any ideas?
[04:10] <DjViper> eek
[04:10] <Lahey> mosix? anyone!
[04:10] <AdamKili> quinnster: isn't qemu a command line program? i think i tried it but couldn't figure it out......i need a GUI    0_0   O_O   lol
[04:10] <lifepositive> Lahey: hi there
[04:11] <Lahey> lifepositive: hello!
[04:11] <lifepositive> Lahey: :)
[04:11] <ortega10> Lahey: google is your friend http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287438
[04:11] <riddlebox> systest, what would the line in /etc/fstab look like?
[04:11] <quinnster> I believe it's initiated via command line, but in the end it's a 'GUI' (well, emulator for whatever you put in it...DOs, Win, Linux, etc.)
[04:11] <MaHaGoN> lwizardl the only thing I can think of if you can get to it from your internal network, but not an external network is you dont have access due to a firewall issue?  Idk, seems like a very odd problem to me
[04:11] <iter> lwizardl: you can ssh to localhost on port 22 from the machine ?
[04:11] <quinnster> I think there's a KQemu for KDE also
[04:11] <Rug> Howdy all
[04:12] <iter> lwizardl: and you can ssh to the machine from the local subnet, on a different box?
[04:12] <Lahey> lifepositive: you dont happen to know anything about mosix on ubuntu?
[04:12] <lwizardl> iter: yes i can ssh into the box using my desktop
[04:12] <Pelo> Lahey,  try looking it up in the forum
[04:12] <Lahey> ok, will do
[04:12] <iter> lwizardl: and the gateway for your subnet, what do you know about it
[04:13] <The_Machine> i'm sad.  i have so much work to do from home tonight but i can't get into my PC via VNC
[04:13] <iter> lwizardl: you can connect to port 22 but can't login ?
[04:13] <lifepositive> Lahey: no sorry
[04:13] <The_Machine> could someone give me a hand?
[04:13] <lifepositive> !mosix
[04:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mosix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:13] <lwizardl> iter: I can loging just fine from any pc on my network, but if I go to anyone's house and try to ssh in i get permission denied
[04:13] <systest> riddlebox: check the man page and the other lines for examples, it would look something like:
[04:13] <AdamKili> quinster: i want to get a windows XP home edition emulator going, does that work in qemu, and do u mind helping me if i can't figure it out on the second time?
[04:14] <systest> riddlebox: /dev/fg/myth /mount/point   ext3  defaults  0  2
[04:14] <Lahey> lifepositive: thats ok, i think i found something on the net...
[04:14] <bimberi> lwizardl: do you have port 22 on your router forwarded to that machine?
[04:14] <lwizardl> iter: can't do a direct login on the machine its headless
[04:14] <iter> lwizardl: and the router for your network, what do you know about it
[04:14] <lwizardl> bimberi: yes
[04:14] <lwizardl> iter: I'm the person that set it up
[04:14] <iter> lwizardl: and when you ssh to your router, do you get a login prompt ?
[04:14] <lwizardl> yes
[04:15] <lifepositive> Lahey: good stuff :)
[04:15] <iter> lwizardl: first thing is to triple check that port 22 on the router is acutally forwarded to the machine
[04:15] <Lahey> back to my first q of the night, what kernal does Ubuntu 6.06.1 run, cant find it on the site
[04:15] <The_Machine> The_Machine? :)
[04:15] <The_Machine> heh
[04:15] <Munchkinguy> Hello.
[04:15] <cam> I have a workstation at work with 2 dual core Xeon 5160 .. is ubuntu AMD64 suitable for these cpus ?
[04:15] <Lahey> lifepositive: not so sure as of yet.
[04:15] <The_Machine> okay, i'm experiencing the problem that's been pretty well documented in edgy about vncpassword 'dissapearing' after each reboot.  Thing is, right now i can hit the PC running ubuntu and it prompts me for authentication.  Doe anyone know what this password is?!?!  (my password isn't working - is there a consistent 'broken' one i can use?)
[04:15] <Rug> cam:  np
[04:15] <Rug> cam: no
[04:15] <iter> lwizardl: and this router, is it a regular home-type router, linksys or netgear etc ?
[04:16] <lwizardl> iter: Yes quad checked port 22 is forwarded to my webserver static ip
[04:16] <systest> Lahey: <IP_ADDRESS> see: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/606
[04:16] <Munchkinguy> Rug: You're confusing me.
[04:16] <lwizardl> iter: Linksys
[04:17] <iter> lwizardl: do tail -f /var/log/auth.log and try to login
[04:17] <Rug> linux-686-smp - Obsoleted by: linux-image-generic
[04:17] <DjViper> lwizardl: I recommend you use an alias-port for ssh
[04:17] <Munchkinguy> Is there anywhere I can find a list of countries that support software patents?
[04:17] <Lahey> and of course OpenMosix only runs on 2.4
[04:17] <Munchkinguy> (or that don't)
[04:17] <bimberi> lwizardl: I've pastebinned by (unchanged since install) /etc/sshd_config at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31808/ .  You could compare it to yours.
[04:17] <cam> Rug, i see... can u give me some advices for another linux distribution ?
[04:17] <Lahey> opps nevermind
[04:18] <Tokamak> me with the audio issue again...    the provided docs are hard to understand (very good w/ windows  very new to linux).  Can someone possibly walk me though the setup?
[04:18] <ortega10> Munchkinguy: there's some kind of list in wikipedia
[04:18] <bimberi> lwizardl: oops, make that /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[04:18] <Rug> cam: what is wrong with linux-686-smp (or better: linux-image-generic)
[04:18] <iter> DjViper: what's alias-port
[04:19] <Crescendo_> Freakin' crap.
[04:19] <The_Machine> hehe
[04:19] <Crescendo_> Why is firefox so crashy in Edgy?
[04:19] <DjViper> iter: something other than a default port
[04:19] <lwizardl> iter: I can log in just fine
[04:19] <The_Machine> Crescendo never had it crash
[04:19] <The_Machine> it's 2.0 though
[04:20] <Crescendo_> I highlight something and click the wrong way and it locks up
[04:20] <The_Machine> you might have a funky extention?
[04:20] <Rug> Crescendo_: mine has been solid
[04:20] <Frem> hey, I'm having a problem with running Java programs
[04:20] <johnnytang24> hrm, anyone know why ssh would hang on SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent?
[04:21] <johnnytang24> I tried regenerating all the keys
[04:21] <iter> lwizardl: please do tail -f /var/log/auth.log and try to login from outside network
[04:21] <Frem> programs that run fine on windows and compile fine on ubuntu throw out errors about not finding ClassLoader when I try to run them on Ubuntu.
[04:21] <Munchkinguy> ortega10: I can't find one.
[04:22] <wizard1> this is lwizardl
[04:22] <wizard1> got disconnected
[04:23] <kevin__> can anybody help with ati rage pro 128
[04:23] <Tokamak> me with the audio issue again...    the provided docs are hard to understand (very good w/ windows  very new to linux).  Can someone possibly walk me though the setup?
[04:23] <ortega10> Munchkinguy: some info here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_patent#Litigation
[04:24] <lwizardl> ok
[04:24] <kevin__> so far no drivers help with 3d accelleration on a rage fury pro 128 from ati
[04:24] <quinnster> kevin__: Get an nVidia card.  I may have given up easy, but am more than satisfied with nVidia.
[04:24] <lwizardl> iter: did you say anything i got d/c
[04:24] <iter> lwizardl: please do tail -f /var/log/auth.log and try to login from outside network
[04:24] <Rug> kevin__: that card is quite old, not much 3d muscle.
[04:25] <lwizardl> ok let me get ahold of my brother to do it
[04:25] <kevin__> Rug worked fine on ME
[04:25] <kevin__> Not that ME works too good
[04:25] <Tokamak> grr  -  no one knows audio?
[04:25] <Maurox> if works fine on ME, shuld fly on linux :)
[04:25] <Rug> kevin__: really?  Been a long time since I have used that hardware.
[04:25] <kevin__> quinnster what were you running?
[04:26] <Munchkinguy> ortega10: Hmmm... Nothing there about Canada.
[04:26] <iter> lwizardl: can you just make a temp account and I'll try, I'd rather not spend another 4 days on your problem
[04:26] <lwizardl> iter: nope permission denied
[04:26] <kevin__> Maurox  probably would but so far there's no proper driver for it...
[04:26] <Tokamak> so much for support irc...
[04:26] <Rug> Munchkinguy: You play Super, Space or Fu ?
[04:26] <Maurox> mmmm let me see
[04:26] <iter> lwizardl: what does auth.log have to say
[04:26] <ortega10> Munchkinguy: http://www.shapirocohen.com/softpatents.htm
[04:27] <lwizardl> nothing
[04:27] <iter> lwizardl: no 'failed password' entry ?
[04:27] <lwizardl> nope
[04:28] <kevin__> any suggestions on where to go to ask about dev to help with this?
[04:28] <iter> lwizardl: your router, does it have openwrt or ddwrt by any chance?
[04:28] <kevin__> I've heard others with the same prob
[04:28] <iter> lwizardl: I suspect you're trying to ssh into the router itself
[04:28] <lwizardl> iter: not that i know of
[04:28] <Rug> kevin__: call ATI
[04:28] <The_Machine> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79069&page=2&highlight=vnc+password <--is there any solution anyone knows of?!
[04:28] <kevin__> Rug will that help?
[04:29] <Rug> kevin__: nope, but they refuse to open up their drivers
[04:29] <kevin__> So far nothings on there site
[04:29] <Munchkinguy> Yes! That means I can use the LAME binary without breaking the law!
[04:29] <Rug> nothing the Linux community can do
[04:29] <kevin__> oh, out of luck it seems
[04:29] <Maurox> kevin__: how are you trying to install  it ?
[04:29] <seamus7> Hi... I've downloaded the Edgy iso ... is it possible to mount the iso and install that way?
[04:30] <iter> lwizardl: try editing /etc/ssh/sshd_config and change the port ssh listens on, and then go to the router page and setup forwarding to that port
[04:30] <variant> seamus7: yeah
[04:30] <Rug> seamus7: what OS do you have installed now?
[04:30] <pknutz> anyone knows how to use cde?
[04:30] <variant> !alternativ
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alternativ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:30] <variant> !alternative
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alternative - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:30] <seamus7> Edgy
[04:30] <kevin__> Maurox I looked on the ati website visited a few ubuntu boards
[04:30] <dk0r> Can someone please help me get additional buttons working on MS TrackBall Explorer. I already tried http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36653.html  but all that does is had be add ' Options "Buttons" "7" ' to xorg.conf then restart.
[04:30] <seamus7> Rug: Edgy
[04:30] <The_Machine> help me obi wan kanobies?
[04:31] <kevin__> Maurox many people have this problem
[04:31] <Rug> seamus7: You have Edgy installed but yet you want to install it again?
[04:31] <ladydoor> !tell dk0r about windows
[04:31] <ortega10> i have this problem, the ooo2 quickstart tray icon doesn't persist after i restart my system, and i don't know how to restart it in the commandline... any ideas ?
[04:31] <dnite> has anyone else had problems with ubuntu freezing while running compiz or beryl?? The system is still working in the background, but I can't interact with anything. Keyboard doesn't do anything and neither does the mouse.. I have to hard reset even though I can see things working on the screen...
[04:31] <dk0r> ladydoor: What does that have to do with my mouse buttons?
[04:31] <seamus7> Rug: yeah I upgraded from Dapper but now I'd like to do a fresh clean install or reinstallation.
[04:31] <kevin__> Maurox the card works great...until you need 3d accel
[04:31] <technel> Hey, with Ubuntu (Gnome), is it possible to change the width of a panel? I know I can change the height in Properties, but I can't figure out how to change the width...
[04:31] <seamus7> Rug: my root is on its own partition.
[04:31] <dk0r> ladydoor: Its a trackball. The only one I like.
[04:31] <ixian_> dnite, try #ubuntu-xgl
[04:31] <ladydoor> dk0r: oh, i thought you said something about M$ explorer
[04:31] <iter> dnite: you can kill xwindows with ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:31] <The_Machine> I'll paypal someone money?
[04:31] <dk0r> ladydoor: I did.
[04:31] <The_Machine> heh
[04:32] <Maurox> ok let me see, im sure that it is posiible
[04:32] <eneried> hello everybody, do you know if Edgy is better than ddapper or if it's better to keep on dapper by a little time?
[04:32] <iter> The_Machine: looks like a bug
[04:32] <dk0r> ladydoor: MS TrackBall Explorer. Its a mouse.
[04:32] <Rug> seamus7: a "fresh install" implies that you nuke/format and reinstall.  Not "copy-over" like lots of folks thought helped with WinXP
[04:32] <dnite> iter, keyboard doesn't respond.. neither does the mouse..
[04:32] <adaran> hey everyone - anyone know why my core 2 duo doesn't do SMP with the 2.6.17-10-generic kernel?
[04:32] <iter> dnite: can you ctrl-alt-f2 ?
[04:32] <irunwithscissors> ortega did u try typing "explorer.exe" at the commandline?
[04:32] <adaran> what happened to the smp kernels anyway?
[04:32] <kevin__> Maurox what experience do you have with these type of probs?
[04:32] <iter> smp is now in generic
[04:32] <dnite> ixian_, i'm trying in there too.. i THINK i've secluded the problem to only when compiz/beryl is running.. but i figured i'd try here too..
[04:32] <dnite> iter, the keyboard doesn't do ANYTHING
[04:33] <adaran> okay, better question: HOW to enable smp?
[04:33] <iter> adaran: can you cat /proc/cpuinfo and see cpu0 and cpu1 ?
[04:33] <Maurox> so far no problems installing ATi cards
[04:33] <adaran> iter: no
[04:33] <adaran> iter: just one
[04:33] <seamus7> Rug: yes that's what I would do ... I did this with Dapper once ... but my problem is that I don't have a CD burner to burn the iso so I'm trying to figure out a way to install over a network or just using the iso.
[04:33] <lwizardl> iter: done that what do i do to force the ssh on my system to restart
[04:33] <Rug> seamus7: do you have another computer?  A floppy drive?
[04:33] <kevin__> it is an older card and not covered with the official ati multi driver
[04:33] <iter> adaran: and I assume you checked bios for HT enable or some core 2 specific setting  ?
[04:33] <adaran> iter: also, APIC is disabled - because the system won't boot with it - on the other hand, windows won't boot without.
[04:34] <seamus7> Rug: I have a floppy drive and a USB memory stick.
[04:34] <irunwithscissors> Hi guys, I'm a newb to any form of Linux, and I wanted to make sure that I will be able to run Ubuntu on my hardware?
[04:34] <iter> lwizardl: /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[04:34] <adaran> iter: well runs well on windows, and bios settings are okay, except for apic
[04:34] <adaran> iter: trust me, i've been fighting with this machine for 15,5 hours now... :P
[04:34] <iter> adaran: yeah sorry :\
[04:34] <adaran> iter: nah, no worries
[04:35] <technel> Hey, with Ubuntu (Gnome), is it possible to change the width of a panel? I know I can change the height in Properties, but I can't figure out how to change the width...
[04:35] <adaran> iter: however, i still don't have smp, and if i boot the generic kernel, with ioapic, it just hangs
[04:35] <Rug> seamus7: search google for creating boot floppies
[04:35] <adaran> iter: right after ps/2 port detection, fairly early
[04:35] <seamus7> Rug: ok thx
[04:35] <adaran> iter: if i disable apic, it'll boot and use one core
[04:36] <irunwithscissors> is it possible to save ubuntu to my ipod and upload it on all my friends' computers without their knowledge?
[04:36] <irunwithscissors> xD
[04:36] <specialbuddy> why is it so hard to set up Samba on ubuntu?
[04:36] <adaran> irunwithscissors: yeah, if their bios can boot from usb
[04:36] <meo> anyone want to help me out w/a weird slow network problem in ubuntu?
[04:36] <irunwithscissors> ok, well then i guess i'll initiate phase 1 in the plan for global domination.
[04:37] <Rug> specialbuddy: because the samba elves don't like us
[04:37] <Rug> specialbuddy: samba is easy
[04:37] <iter> adaran: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281459
[04:37] <tritium> SMB, as easy as 123
[04:37] <specialbuddy> it was easy on Gentoo
[04:37] <iter> adaran: I'm sure you've already seen that... ?
[04:37] <specialbuddy> I haven't been able to get it working right yet for Ubuntu
[04:37] <specialbuddy> I set it up for my first time on Ubuntu and had no problems at all
[04:38] <lwizardl> iter: ok changed port and forwarded to new port and had him retry and nothing
[04:38] <Rug> have you tried manually editing /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:38] <specialbuddy> gentoo I mean
[04:38] <specialbuddy> yeah
[04:38] <iter> lwizardl: can you ssh to localhost on the new port ?
[04:38] <Tokamak> can u at least help me with this...    get past "Permission denied" when creating directories
[04:38] <Lahey> systest: i read the link you sent, but im still no sure if Mosix or OpenMosix comes in a Ubuntu package?
[04:38] <eneried> ah
[04:38] <kevin__> Maurox is there a way I can get a hold of you
[04:38] <iter> lwizardl: also, check auth.log
[04:38] <adaran> iter: all the smp kernels are "obsoleted" by the generic one
[04:38] <Ahmuck> i am unable to boot ubuntu after install
[04:38] <Ahmuck> ubuntu server
[04:38] <eneried> i begin to think nobody is a gentleman here
[04:38] <adaran> iter: it's not that i can't roll my own, it's mainly that i switched to ubuntu because i didn't want to compile kernels at 5 am in the morning anymore =/.
[04:38] <eneried> bye
[04:39] <ladydoor> eneried: i'm not! i'm not!
[04:39] <ladydoor> :-)
[04:39] <Rug> hehe
[04:39] <specialbuddy> is there a way to get shared files off a windows box?
[04:39] <Tokamak> no one is fucking paying attention   this room is BS
[04:39] <irunwithscissors> um
[04:39] <irunwithscissors> tokamak
[04:39] <irunwithscissors> ive never used linux
[04:39] <irunwithscissors> but im gonna say
[04:39] <specialbuddy> Tokamak, stop swearing, my virgin ears
[04:39] <lwizardl> iter: yes I can still ssh in on localnetwork
[04:39] <irunwithscissors> get kernel access
[04:39] <adaran> iter: unfortunately, there are no more smp kernels it seems
[04:40] <Maurox> kevin__: look at this  http://gatos.sourceforge.net/
[04:40] <Pelo> Tokamak,   start nautilus from the terminal with gksu nautilus,  you'll have permission then
[04:40] <Homer> hey I want to build a giant communist robot, is ubuntu a good distro?
[04:40] <Rug> Tokamak: NOBODY in this channel is getting money for helping people.  We are Volunteers!  You get what you pay for.
[04:40] <irunwithscissors> go with Windows, duh.
[04:40] <irunwithscissors> it IS communist
[04:40] <adaran> Homer: what you want is red flag linux
[04:41] <Homer> oh ok
[04:41] <kevin__> Maurox Thanks I'll take a look
[04:41] <Pelo> irunwithscissors,   windows is the embodiment of rampant capitalism
[04:41] <lwizardl> iter: could it have anything to do with pam?
[04:41] <kevin__> kind of new at this
[04:41] <Homer> yes my robot will crush capitalism
[04:41] <Homer> thanks
[04:41] <Maurox> im trying to find something more easy :S
[04:41] <tritium> Homer: please stay on topic
[04:41] <specialbuddy> is there a way to get files off of my friends windows computer?
[04:42] <iter> lwizardl: you should see something in auth.log
[04:42] <irunwithscissors> take out his hard drive and put it in your computer
[04:42] <irunwithscissors> silly.
[04:42] <iter> lwizardl: is the file empty ?
[04:42] <lwizardl> no
[04:42] <Pelo> specialbuddy,   to share with windows I beleive you need samba but I am not sure, this is not my area
[04:42] <specialbuddy> an easier less redneck way?
[04:42] <specialbuddy> I have samba
[04:42] <Rug> specialbuddy: if you are having so much trouble with samba, install Webmin & manage samba with that
[04:42] <lwizardl> all my attempts are in it but nothing while they try from outside the network
[04:42] <specialbuddy> I am about to get rid of Ubuntu, I don't like the edgy as much as Dapper
[04:43] <Maurox> kevin__: this would help you too http://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/atirage/
[04:43] <Rug> specialbuddy: yeah me too
[04:43] <Pelo> specialbuddy,   then I think you probably need to setup a shared folder on the windows machine and map it from the ubuntu machine
[04:43] <Maurox> i konw is kinda old, but could help
[04:43] <kevin__> ok
[04:43] <Adrian_> I'm trying to upgrade to edgy from dapper, its just telling me there are no updates available (using apt and the update thingy). Any ideas?
[04:43] <iter> lwizardl: it's the router then
[04:43] <iter> lwizardl: try putting the ubuntu box in the dmz
[04:44] <specialbuddy> well I can see his computer but I can't get anything from it
[04:44] <tritium> Adrian_: edgy is the latest.  You could do dapper -> edgy, but not the reverse.
[04:44] <lwizardl> nm he just got in
[04:44] <vega__> Hello people.
[04:44] <vega__> How do I make a shortcut to a folder?
[04:44] <Pelo> Adrian2,  its and update-dist thing ,  there are instructions on the ubuntu site, but you are better off getting the cd/dvd and installing from scratch
[04:44] <lwizardl> iter: Is there a way to only allow logins to known IPs?
 thats  what i'm trying to do...
[04:45] <ladydoor> vega__: ln -s /path/to/folder /path/to/link
[04:45] <specialbuddy> vega, it's a link
 Thats why i'm doing, no luck
[04:45] <jair> hey guys? how can get the video player have more codecs to get quicktime and mpeg videos, or should i try to install xine?
[04:45] <adaran> lwizardl: tcp wrappers, try /etc/hosts.allow and such
[04:45] <iter> lwizardl: /etc/hosts.allow and hosts.deny
[04:45] <dk0r> How does one setup a pc/osx/ubuntu friendly network ?
[04:45] <Pelo> Adrian_,  like I said,  getting a cd is better
[04:45] <Maurox> kevin__: this is the last http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man4/r128.4.html with that you are able to configure your card :)
[04:45] <ladydoor> vega__: that'll create a symlink ("shortcut" is windisease (windows+ese) for "link")
[04:46] <specialbuddy> dk0r, get windows because Ubuntu sucks for that
[04:46] <Pelo> vega-,  rightclick the folder and use make a link ( or shortcut, not sure what it is in english)
 I'd rather not have to backup all my files and stuff and move them to a temp partition etc
[04:46] <dk0r> specialbuddy: Get windows?
[04:46] <tritium> specialbuddy: be reasonable!
[04:46] <Rug> specialbuddy: just because you can't do it means it's impossible
[04:46] <ladydoor> Pelo: it's link :-)
[04:46] <dk0r> specialbuddy: You mean i cannot network ubuntu and xp and osx ?
[04:46] <Rug> dk0r: ignore him.  He's bitter
[04:46] <specialbuddy> not easily
[04:46] <Pelo> Adrian_,  did you do the set where you change the repos from dapper to edgy ?
[04:47] <tritium> dk0r: you can, he's exaggerating based on his own difficulties
[04:47] <dk0r> tritium: heh.
[04:47] <specialbuddy> get gentoo then
[04:47] <dk0r> Well I am new to nix.
[04:47] <iter> dk0r: your question was a bit vague-- a tcp/ip network will work well with all those os's
[04:47] <Rug> specialbuddy: please leave if you are going to be like that
[04:47] <specialbuddy> it's supposed to be a harder distro to use but I can do it on there for some reason and I'm total noob
[04:47] <dk0r> iter: I just want to share files via tcp/ip
[04:47] <kevin__> RU ok walking me throu a bit?
i've tried gksu "update-manager -c" and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. It just says nothing to update
[04:48] <Pelo> Adrian_,  hold on
[04:48] <dk0r> specialbuddy: What do you do? Just set the ip and subnet's and thats it ?
[04:48] <dk0r> specialbuddy: All the computers see eachother??
[04:48] <dk0r> specialbuddy: That seems too easy.
[04:49] <specialbuddy> usually it's as easy as getting samba
[04:49] <Flannel> !samba | dk0r
[04:49] <ubotu> dk0r: samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:49] <Adrian_> Pelo: I've also tried changing apt sources to a different countries one, did help.
[04:49] <DelawareAEA> hello.  does anyone here have experience with jdelay?  i'm using it to check the latency on jack
[04:49] <dk0r> ubotu: What about osx?
[04:49] <specialbuddy> I did it in dapper dk0r but edgy is not going so smooth
[04:49] <Adrian_> Pelo: didn't*
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about What about osx? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <dk0r> specialbuddy: I am in daper.
[04:50] <specialbuddy> get samba
[04:50] <dk0r> That a distro or app ?
[04:50] <ChocoCid> app
[04:50] <specialbuddy> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Samba_Server
[04:50] <specialbuddy> just get it on synaptic
[04:50] <specialbuddy> use that guide
[04:50] <vega__> I'm having trouble using amarok.
[04:50] <ivx> hey i have an expresscard on my note book. if i get a firewire card for it does anyone know if it will be supported?
[04:50] <vega__> Whenever I click a song and click play, it just goes straight to 'playlist finished'.
[04:50] <vega__> And never plays the song.
[04:51] <adaran> vega__: audio output problems, most likely
[04:51] <dk0r> specialbuddy: I want to use apt-get.  I would just type 'sudo apt-get install samba' ?
[04:51] <vega__> Well it never shows that is playing.
[04:51] <vega__> It just instantly goes to 'playlist finished'.
[04:51] <specialbuddy> yeah
[04:51] <specialbuddy> and smbfs i think
[04:51] <dk0r> specialbuddy: yeah, dk0r ?
[04:51] <adaran> dk0r: you may want to take a loot at aptitude while you're at it
[04:51] <Maurox> vega__: it soun like a pluging problem or output problem
[04:51] <Maurox> sound**
[04:51] <specialbuddy> yeah dk0r
[04:51] <vega__> I think it must be a plugin problem, but I don't know what to do about it.
[04:51] <dk0r> adaran: 'sudo apt-get install aptitude' ??
[04:51] <adaran> vega__: yeah, that's what it does - it can't play a song, because it cannot use the soundcard - either it's busy or a configuration problem
[04:51] <vega__> The default linux media player doesn't work either.
[04:52] <adaran> dk0r: that'd be the first step =)
[04:52] <Flannel> dk0r: aptitude is already installed
[04:52] <vega__> Ok its the soundcard?
[04:52] <Maurox> get the plugings that you need
[04:52] <vega__> So I need to update my drivers for my card?
[04:52] <dk0r> Flannel: Oh. So how do I use it? 'sudo aptitude samba' ?
[04:52] <adaran> vega__: try getting alsa to work, aplay and such. there's tons of howtos for that. once you know that works, all you need to do is get the xine-engine to use alsa
[04:52] <Maurox> i think tht you need to configureit
[04:52] <Flannel> dk0r: aptitude can be used like apt get, or in an interactive GUI
[04:52] <Laibsc1> Anybody has an idea how to fix the mess that I am in after my edgy upgrade?  Further info at the support request I opened: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/2451
[04:53] <dk0r> Flannel: So if I want Samba, I would enter 'sudo aptitude install samba' ?
[04:53] <adaran> dk0r: the main advantage of aptitude is NOT the gui, but the fact that it records "automatic" installs
[04:53] <Flannel> adaran: apt-get does too
[04:53] <dk0r> adaran: What do you 'records'? and what do you mean 'automatic' ?
[04:53] <adaran> Flannel: no, it doesn't
[04:53] <dk0r> What do you mean*
[04:53] <adaran> dk0r, Flannel: when you instal a package, dependencies (libs) get installed - consider a simplified example: installing "the gimp" needs "gtk"
[04:53] <ladydoor> !aptitude
[04:53] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[04:53] <tritium> dk0r: if you uninstall a package, aptitude will remove the dependencies that only that package needed
[04:54] <dk0r> I dont want to use the gui. If i wanted a gui, I would use windows or osx. I dont want a gui. I want to learn terminal.
[04:54] <specialbuddy> apt-get install samba
[04:54] <Pelo> Adrian_, , sorry I can'T find the page with the instructions to update,  but trust me , many ppl have had major problem with the update-dist (me included)  you are better off backuping your home folder and installing from scratch
[04:54] <Maurox> i think that Flaneel says that he easyly can find what it is installed :P
[04:54] <dk0r> tritium: apt-get doesnt do that?
[04:54] <ladydoor> dk0r: aptitude actually has an ncurses "g"-ui...it's entirely terminal-based
[04:54] <Maurox> but apt-get do that too :P
[04:54] <Adrian_> Pelo: alright, sounds like a plan. Thanks
[04:54] <adaran> dk0r, Flannel: later, if you remove the gimp, only aptitude will notice that you did not REQUEST gtk, but only accepted it because another package needed it.
[04:54] <dk0r> adaran: and aptitude will remove gtk ?
[04:55] <tritium> dk0r: not unless it has been enhanced recently
[04:55] <ChocoCid> apt-get autoremove, problem solved
[04:55] <adaran> dk0r, Flannel: so that's my main selling point of aptitude. yes, aptitude will see that gtk is marked "automatic" and will check if any other package needs gtk. if not, gtk will be removed
[04:55] <Flannel> adaran: new versions of apt-get do that too.  Which is what I said.
[04:55] <ChocoCid> sudo apt-get install autoremove, then just use apt-get autoremove in the future :D
[04:55] <dk0r> adaran:
[04:55] <dk0r> adaran: Sounds smart. I like it.
[04:55] <dk0r> adaran: So same as apt-get? 'sudo aptitude install samba' ?
[04:56] <adaran> ChocoCid: so how does apt-get track what you want and what not?
[04:56] <ChocoCid> it doesn't, the program autoremove does
[04:56] <specialbuddy> dk0r, just sudo apt-get install samba
[04:56] <adaran> dk0r: yeah, works the same for basic tasks. and it works with apt-get, it's all the same package management
[04:56] <ivx> is there any good gpl video editing software?
[04:56] <lando__> ive been using liferea to read my feeds but was wondering if anyone here had any suggestions/experience with a better feed reader
[04:56] <CharlieSu> Has anyone setup encryption with Ubuntu and dm-crypt?
[04:57] <dk0r> specialbuddy: After all this talk, and the explanation of why aptitude is better, why do you recommend apt-get? Because samba comes with no dependencies?
[04:57] <dk0r> So it doesnt matter?
[04:57] <specialbuddy> just do apt-get
[04:57] <adaran> dk0r: if you install something with apt-get in the meantime, just all packages will be "requested", so even if you removed it with aptitude, they won't be uninstalled automatically. however, as others pointed out, maybe apt-get has seen some modernizations. i've been using aptitude for a while
[04:57] <specialbuddy> did you read the link I posted
[04:57] <lwizardl> iter: thanks
[04:57] <Pelo> ivx,  depends on what you want to do,  audacity seems to be the thing
[04:58] <iter> lwizardl: glad to help
[04:58] <specialbuddy> sudo apt-get install samba smbfs
[04:58] <dk0r> adaran: So does aptitude have the advantage you mentioned or not?
[04:58] <adaran> dk0r: bottom line: if you want to, you can substitute aptitude install for apt-get install almost anytime you want - with no drawbacks. on the other hand, your gain is just a few mb of harddrive space
[04:58] <specialbuddy> dk0r, enter that
[04:58] <ivx> pelo cool i'll check it out.
[04:58] <adaran> dk0r: yeah, i thought i made that clear.
[04:58] <ivx> thanks
[04:58] <CharlieSu> Has anyone setup encryption with Ubuntu and dm-crypt?
[04:58] <specialbuddy> just do what I just posted dk0r, no more talk just do the thing posted above
[04:58] <specialbuddy> sudo apt-get install samba smbfs
[04:58] <adaran> dk0r: however, while you're interested, don't take my word for it. read for yourself. or try it on a package with deps you don't have
[04:59] <jair> so guys to watch wmv and mpegs all I need to install is this?--> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg?
[04:59] <jair> I am using dapper drake ubuntu
[04:59] <Pelo> ivx,  wait, sorry,  audacity is for audio , avidemux is for video
[04:59] <dk0r> adaran: Thank you for the explain.
[04:59] <adaran> dk0r: you're welcome
[04:59] <boris55> can someone tell me which repo has libxres1?
[04:59] <ivx> pelo oh well i'll look at both, thanks
[05:00] <Flannel> boris55: main
[05:00] <CharlieSu> Somebody please tell me why https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/module-details.html#partman-crypto  Isn't on the Ubuntu CD like the documentation says it is..  Am I missing something?
[05:00] <dk0r> adaran: You familiar with getting mouse buttons working?
[05:00] <adaran> dk0r: mine usually work =)
[05:00] <lando__> ive been using liferea to read my feeds but was wondering if anyone here had any suggestions/experience with a better feed reader
[05:00] <Flannel> CharlieSu: have you asked the forums?  I know you've been asking here regularly and for a while.
[05:00] <adaran> dk0r: or do you mean "more then 3"? =)
[05:01] <CharlieSu> Flannel, yes.. Sorry..  I'm just trying to figure it out..  Nothing yet..
[05:01] <dk0r> adaran: yes.   Usually I can figure things out myself..  This I just don't seem to be able to do..
[05:01] <CharlieSu> Flannel, do you use the Alternate CD when installing?
[05:02] <adaran> dk0r: you'll probably find a decent howto somewhere.
[05:02] <Flannel> CharlieSu: I do.  But, I haven't used it in a while.   But its a dud.
[05:03] <dk0r> adaran: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36653.html
[05:03] <Flannel> CharlieSu: no reason to, I have no GUI, and the packages I use have almost no new versions overall, so no real reason to.
[05:03] <secleinteer> hey, does anyone know if there's a packge i can install to get the planned edgy artwork that was dropped after the beta?
[05:03] <dk0r> adaran: Ive never spent 10 hours installing windows.
[05:03] <lindsayfl> i download nvidia drivers but it says i need to close X to install.  how do i close x in ubuntu without shutting down?  thx :)
[05:03] <CharlieSu> Flannel, well if you get bored please check into it for me..
[05:03] <adaran> dk0r: well do you know that local apic is?
[05:03] <adaran> dk0r: s/that/what/
[05:04] <Pelo> secleinteer,  have you tried looking for it on art-gnome
[05:04] <dk0r> adaran: huh?
[05:04] <dk0r> adaran: I'm interested if you would like to explain.
[05:04] <secleinteer> pelo: art-gnome?
[05:04] <secleinteer> is that a site?
[05:04] <adaran> dk0r: nothing special, i didn't know, too
[05:04] <Pelo> ;yeah
[05:04] <dk0r> lindsayfl: I dont think you cant restart X without restarting, can you ???
[05:04] <dk0r> adaran: Thats a nix thing, not windows? right?
[05:04] <adaran> dk0r: it just took me 10 hours to find out, and get windows booting, after taking my new computer apart a couple of times
[05:04] <ladydoor> dk0r: control+alt+backspace
[05:04] <ayaa> mkisofs is saying: mkisofs: File '/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.1/ep_82/bEndpointAddress' did shrink.
[05:04] <ayaa> what is this error ?
[05:04] <roycebarber> Anyone know which room George Fragos uses?
[05:04] <adaran> dk0r: no, it's a hardware standard for interrupts
[05:05] <ladydoor> dk0r: (that restarts X)
[05:05] <adaran> dk0r: os-indenpendant. currently i can't boot linux when it's on and can't boot windows when it's off
[05:05] <dk0r> adaran: An error code you mean ?
[05:05] <lindsayfl> the nvidia i run (sh NVIDIA) says i need to run without X
[05:05] <secleinteer> pelo: i can't find any ubuntu artwork there
[05:05] <juanW> hi i am new to ubuntu and linux and really like it a lot
[05:05] <dk0r> adaran: So its a bios setting?
[05:05] <adaran> dk0r: really, try wikipedia, if you want to know more. i was just explaining why i spent 10 hours installing windows
[05:05] <adaran> dk0r: well, yes, you could say that
[05:05] <Pelo> secleinteer,  not even on the ubuntu site ?
[05:05] <dk0r> ladydoor: you can restart x without restarting your whole machine?
[05:05] <adaran> dk0r: boils down to that, in the end
[05:05] <secleinteer> i'm talking about art-gnome
[05:05] <dk0r> adaran: whats it called again ?
[05:06] <dk0r> adaran: where do you edit/turn it on/off ?
[05:06] <Garota> que onda gente
[05:06] <adaran> dk0r: apic. try wikipedia
[05:06] <lindsayfl> tesm ctrl alt backspace to restart x
[05:06] <ladydoor> dk0r: yeah. i mean, i boot to a commandline, start X when i feel like it, and stop X when i feel like it...and start it again later, sometimes
[05:06] <adaran> dk0r: and if your system is working, you don't need to concern yourself with it =)
[05:06] <roycebarber> These are my favorite IRC rooms so far: #ubuntu #kubuntu #ubuntu-xgl #ubuntu-offtopic #ubuntu-bots #linuxhelp #winehq #ubuntu+1
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> lindsayfl, just sec
[05:06] <dk0r> adaran: wikipedia sucks.
[05:06] <lindsayfl> :) thx
[05:07] <adaran> dk0r: it does?
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> lindsayfl, what you need to do to get to the lowest level is ... make sure you have the nvidia stuff ready and know where its at
[05:07] <Pelo> secleinteer, http://art.gnome.org/
[05:07] <lindsayfl> ok, i have it
[05:07] <dk0r> adaran: much so. You should know that. Your a leet ubuntu user ;)
[05:07] <roycebarber> Amarok has a wikipedia tab built in for looking up artist data.
[05:08] <secleinteer> pelo: that's where i was looking
[05:08] <dk0r> jrr tolkiens books sucked. I mean.. They really did suck. Was he a drug addict?
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> then issue "sudo init 3" ... then sudo init 5 to get back to gui... but make sure your Nvidia module is loaded with sudo modprobe nvidia
[05:08] <ladydoor> !offtopic
[05:08] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:08] <roycebarber> I wish that the various Ubuntu sites were all somehow connected in with Wikipedia
[05:08] <secleinteer> pelo: http://art.gnome.org/search.php?search_text=ubuntu&search_type=all --> no results
[05:08] <dk0r> ladydoor: heh
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> lindsayfl, good luck
[05:08] <dk0r> adaran: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apic
[05:08] <lindsayfl> nomasteryoda: thx!
[05:08] <dk0r> adaran: Real informative.
[05:08] <adaran> dk0r: it's written by a lot of nerds. that's why it's excellent for looking up tech stuff. and you get all sorts of weird stuff out of it, if you want to. now, as long as you don't believe EVERYTHING in it, it's a very valuable resource, if only to provide you with a few links and keywords for further research
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> you can always issue dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to get back to normal xorg
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> np
[05:09] <adaran> dk0r: well, how many links did you click? :P
[05:09] <lindsayfl> that's good news!  less pressure :)
[05:09] <adaran> dk0r: and what's your native language?
[05:09] <roycebarber> You can almost believe everything in wikipedia, it has less mistakes than paper encyclopedias.
[05:09] <dk0r> adaran: Well, maybe so. Ive never looked @ wikipedia for tech jargan. Only social sciences.
[05:09] <tritium> roycebarber: or so you think
[05:09] <iter> ot
[05:09] <roycebarber> I know. I know everything. : p
[05:09] <adaran> roycebarber: it's not mistake, but vandalism that's the problem, i guess. or subtle stuff =)
[05:09] <dk0r> adaran: I am monolingual.
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> lindsayfl, just remember the modprobe command
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> lindsayfl, once you get it built and installed... or reboot
[05:10] <dk0r> adaran: moningual
[05:10] <Borat> QUICK QUESTION: Does anyone know how to stop emerald themer from freezing right when i open it? cause its getting very annoying
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> so it's loaded at startup
[05:10] <adaran> dk0r: oh, then you're out of luck. it excellent when you can check another wikipedia. the german wikipedia has fewer obscure stuff, but is a bit better edited
[05:10] <adaran> dk0r: and, if the articles are not translations, you have your first chance to cross check facts, if you need to
[05:10] <iter> Borat: the alpha software, it's not so verynice
[05:10] <dk0r> adaran: I am, however well versed in English grammar.
[05:10] <roycebarber> *wishes i knew german..and japanese..and there were just one simple translation tool that actually works*
[05:10] <iter> Borat: emerald try to make sexytime and fail
[05:11] <Borat> iter, it used to work fine...
[05:11] <adaran> dk0r: excellent. then you should edit some of the articles =)
[05:11] <Borat> iter, give me your tears
[05:11] <dk0r> adaran: Yeah. Thats true.
[05:11] <Pelo> secleinteer,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=artwork&titlesearch=Titres
[05:11] <dk0r> adaran: I want to learn french and greek.
[05:12] <iter> geek? I speak geek
[05:12] <adaran> dk0r: i'm working on the french. greek however...
[05:12] <dk0r> iter: close.  It's a language app.
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> iter, so a pocket in your wocket on a socket in a port? dr seus?
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> =D
[05:13] <adaran> dk0r: don't know it =)
[05:13] <juanW> i need to know if i can decode my cable signal with tvtime or if i have to connect through cable box
[05:13] <iter> nomasteryoda: http://www.geocities.com/doireanne/whenpackethits.html
[05:13] <dk0r> adaran: http://www.rosettastone.com/en/
[05:13] <adaran> nomasteryoda: is a locket like a socket that has been pocketed?
[05:13] <adaran> w00t!
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:14] <dk0r> adaran: Check it out if youre into learning languages.
[05:14] <adaran> i've gone from 3.76 fps to 60 fps
[05:14] <iter> it's when the socket packet pocket has an error to report!
[05:14] <dk0r> adaran: With what?
[05:14] <adaran> a new computer
[05:14] <adaran> =)
[05:14] <dk0r> adaran: linux?
[05:14] <adaran> no, didn't i just tell you i spent ten hours installign windows? :D
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> ewwww
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> thats normal timeframe
[05:14] <dk0r> adaran: no. You said you have before. Not just.
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> now for the hacxor to ocme
[05:15] <adaran> oh, told you it's 5 am here
[05:15] <dk0r> adaran: What was the just of your apic problem.
[05:15] <adaran> i'm about to taste a few of the fruits of my labor
[05:15] <Crescendo_> How do I unmount an ISO?
[05:15] <dk0r> adaran: Were you getting blue screens?
[05:15] <adaran> dk0r: yeah, that's the 10 hours =)
[05:15] <nomasteryoda> Crescendo, umount /mnt/isofile
[05:15] <adaran> dk0r: one. install shield crashed on me badly when i kicked it
[05:15] <nomasteryoda> or whaeever you called it
[05:15] <dk0r> adaran: When you kicked it?
[05:16] <nomasteryoda> just cd out of it before or close nautilus if its open to it
[05:16] <ttttttt> You all have won $10,000 dollars email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>with your details to claim it now, Good Luck.
[05:16] <adaran> dk0r: spammed the cancel button. that i have learned, never cancel an installation :P
[05:16] <iter> sweet! 10 grand!
[05:16] <nomasteryoda> nice
[05:16] <dk0r> adaran: And what are you talking about install shield? Doesnt windows have its own setup utility ?
[05:16] <Crescendo_> There's only one file in /mnt, and it isn't the right mounted ISO.
[05:16] <nomasteryoda> but first send us 1000
[05:16] <nomasteryoda> =D
[05:16] <nomasteryoda> haxors
[05:16] <adaran> oh dear. i feel like a kid in a candy store, cranking every graphical effects slider to the maximum =)
[05:16] <ttttttt> no sorry, send us your details first then we will send you the 10 grand
[05:16] <nomasteryoda> heeheheh
[05:17] <iter> ttttttt: can you just paypal it please ?
[05:17] <dk0r> adaran: INstallshield? Doesnt windows have its own setup utlity?
[05:17] <ChocoCid> windows's setup utility IS installshield
[05:17] <dk0r> ChocoCid: k.
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> no, i'll send you the IP of that korean outfit that claimed I scanned their ssh ports probing for root access
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[05:17] <Crescendo_> umount: /media/ISO: device is busy
[05:17] <Crescendo_> umount: /media/ISO: device is busy
[05:17] <Crescendo_> What does that mean?
[05:17] <adaran> dk0r: yeah, the windows installer, the .msi files.
[05:17] <ChocoCid> the device is busy!

[05:17] <Crescendo_> Urdur. :P
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> Crescendo, that you have something open to it
[05:17] <ChocoCid> probably still running a program based on it
[05:17] <iter> Crescendo_: you can use of to find out
[05:18] <nomasteryoda> like terminal
[05:18] <iter> Crescendo_: of = open file
[05:18] <dk0r> adaran: So what happened. It kept crashing during install so.. How did you determine the problem ?
[05:18] <adaran> dk0r: it's quite neat i think, give them a couple more years and they may have something that is a bit closer to apt
[05:18] <adaran> dk0r: oh, you meant the WINDOWS installation
[05:18] <adaran> dk0r: sorry.
[05:18] <dk0r> adaran: Isnt that what you are talking about?
[05:18] <adaran> dk0r: well i hung right after loading all the hardware drivers without a message
[05:18] <dk0r> adaran: Installing windows?
[05:18] <Crescendo_> I know there's a program running from it... kinda.  I'm running a 2 disc install from a mounted CD.
[05:18] <nomasteryoda> ah
[05:18] <iter> hmm not found, am I on crack ?
[05:18] <iter> ahh lsof
[05:18] <Crescendo_> I'm trying to switch to disc 2.
[05:19] <adaran> dk0r: well, i found your question a bit ambiguous, as you could've meant the "modern" software installer framework as well =)
[05:19] <dk0r> adaran: You said it took me 10 hours to install windows.
[05:19] <iter> Crescendo_: lsof | grep nameofiso
[05:19] <nomasteryoda> Crescendo, oh from mounted ISO files you did an install howso?
[05:19] <dk0r> adaran: that means you didnt get to the loading up drivers part.
[05:19] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:20] <ixian_> anyone know how to configure the mousewheel in edgy? i want it to skip more lines of text when i move the mousewheel up or down.. how would i change that option? there doesnt seem to be anything in preferences > mouse..
[05:20] <Crescendo_> iter, it's again not returning the ISO that I mounted.
[05:20] <dk0r> adaran: anyways. So you got blue screens. What was the error ? It actually said blahblah apic ?
[05:20] <adaran> dk0r: the installer loads .sys files from the CD. it's the very first thing it does. that's "loading drivers"... loading kernel modules would be the linux equivalent
[05:20] <adaran> dk0r: it said nothing
[05:20] <nomasteryoda> dk0r, on a new box you can have windows up in about 2 hours... but it will be powned in about 2
[05:20] <dk0r> adaran: ohh. Those drivers!!!
[05:20] <dk0r> adaran: Ok. Im with you now. So all im interested in, is how you determined what the problem was.
[05:20] <adaran> dk0r: when i say it took me 10 hours, that means it took me hours to identify and narrow down the problem, taking out hardware, switching out components
[05:20] <Pelo> ixian_,   configuring mouse in linux is a text file editing job, go and search for it in the forum there are several tutorials there
[05:20] <nomasteryoda> Crescendo, mount will show what is mounted
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> just that command
[05:21] <iter> ixian_: it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:21] <Crescendo_> Got it.
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> "mount"
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:21] <Crescendo_> /home/eric/Media/Software/Mechwarrior 4: Mercenaries/MW4_CD1.ISO on /media/ISO type iso9660 (rw,loop=/dev/loop0)
[05:21] <dk0r> adaran: And. How did you identify problem? Setup crashed to error message? or black?
[05:21] <adaran> dk0r: hm first i found out that hardware recognition is done at the step it hangs, so i blamed the hardware (naturally) - took out everything - including the hd - so i only had gfx card, mainboard, cpu, ram and dvd rom in there
[05:21] <Crescendo_> umount /media/ISO ?
[05:21] <Crescendo_> That doesn't work.
[05:21] <adaran> dk0r: no, it just hung. only indication was at which point it hung. so i went from there
[05:22] <Crescendo_> Or is it umount /home/eric/.........?
[05:22] <iter> Crescendo_: umout /home/eric/Media/etc/etce/tece/wer//asdf
[05:22] <Crescendo_> Alright.
[05:22] <Crescendo_> :)
[05:22] <adaran> dk0r: first i suspected bad ram, bad cd, bad gfx card, had to test all those things, which takes time (downloading isos, running memtest, etc)
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> Crescendo, i have seen some modes for games where you had to make a special "ini" file and tell it where the other discs were
[05:22] <dk0r> I hate waiting for memtest.
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> to do such an install
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> where was that ....
[05:22] <dk0r> adaran: where did you get your install?
[05:22] <adaran> dk0r: trust me, that was the easiest part.
[05:22] <nomasteryoda>  hey, google  do you know?
[05:22] <Crescendo_> sudo umount /home/eric/Media/Software/Mechwarrior\ 4\:\ Mercenaries/MW4_CD1.ISO
[05:22] <Crescendo_> umount: /media/ISO: device is busy
[05:22] <Crescendo_> :/
[05:22] <dk0r> adaran: Whered you get your install?
[05:22] <adaran> dk0r: get my install? the cd? it's an iso microsoft offers
[05:23] <bilange> how (with which program) the audio part is handled in ubuntu edgy? for some reason, I cant seem to playback more than one stream at a time on ubuntu; windows playbacks more than one.. as much as I would in fact.
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> Crescendo, your installer is still accessing the iso mount point
[05:23] <dk0r> adaran: ms offers an xp iso? for download? where?
[05:23] <Crescendo_> Yes it is - if I terminate it, there goes the install.
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> right
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> hence my comment
[05:23] <adaran> dk0r: it's available if you're studying at the university where i am studying
[05:23] <dk0r> adaran: oh ok. so its legit. no one goofed it up.
[05:23] <Crescendo_> Hrm.
[05:23] <dk0r> adaran: continue.
[05:23] <adaran> dk0r: you get a lot of stuff, except office. mainly visual studio, windows, sql server - all stuff that would be "interesting" to cs students
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> you know you can set up multiple "CD drives" with wine
[05:24] <daftvader> hi i need some help
[05:24] <Crescendo_> Hrm, that'd help.
[05:24] <daftvader> i just suddenly lost access to my windows partition
[05:24] <Crescendo_> I was thinking Wine was complicating it.
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> i think the installer might know where to find them
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> hangon
[05:24] <Crescendo_> Alright.
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> oh, for sure
[05:24] <dk0r> So what happened. You updated bios?
[05:24] <dk0r> Or found bad hardware?
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> i love my new heat-sync for my lappy...
[05:24] <adaran> dk0r: not sure what else there is to say. as i spent quite a lot of time on this, even managed to bruise my finger in a drawer pretty badly, i'd rather end this here and play for a while, if you're okay with that :P
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> solid panel of 1/2 inch aluminum
[05:25] <redDEADresolve> Im am trying to install Edy Eft, Ubuntu 6.10 on my new Dell laptop. Everything loads up and goes smoothy until it asks me to manually partition the hard drive. Edgy does not "see" my hard drive. I just have a bank list ANY IDEAS?
[05:25] <dk0r> adaran: ok? weirdo.
[05:25] <adaran> dk0r: right
[05:25] <dk0r> adaran: left
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> redDEADresolve, yes... download the live CD of gparted...
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> use that to partition... then try again
[05:26] <redDEADresolve> i got gparted alrerady
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> that worked on a brand new dell with sata drives for me
[05:26] <redDEADresolve> what do i do?
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> you booted and partitioned with it?
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> not the ubuntu version, but "real" thing
[05:27] <redDEADresolve> no, i havent i will. my win xp parition works fine. should i reformat it in ex3?
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> Crescendo, try this...
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> What works
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> Install but i needed to make a folder with the files contained in the two cds. No problems during install.
[05:27] <Pelo> g'night folks
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> was on the wine HP app db
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> no
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> redDEADresolve, nope
[05:28] <caveMan> hi. i just wondering where to install google-earth. if I try to install it as normal user it attempts to install at home directory, that doesn't seem like a good practice. if i try to install it as root it defaults to /opt/google-earth. is there any convention to follow for this or should I just install it wherever?
[05:28] <Crescendo> Hrm, I'll give that a shot.
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> i recommend making the partiton for linux ext3 and a swap
[05:28] <Crescendo> I'm messing with wine's drive mapping right now
[05:28] <redDEADresolve> i have real gparted cd what do you want me to do
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> but keep windows first on the drive
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> what i justt said
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> should work perfectly, but ymmv
[05:29] <redDEADresolve> masteryoda what if i dont want a windows partition?
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:29] <redDEADresolve> and whats ymmv?
[05:29] <caffiendo> how do I untar a file so it extacts the subdirectories and keeps the permissions?
[05:29] <radioaktivstorm> how do i get ubuntu to use a swap partition on my hdd?
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> your mileage may vary
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> !swap
[05:30] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[05:30] <redDEADresolve> whats that mean? im sorry not a good english speaker
[05:30] <Roman_Logix> has anyone been able to get ati radeon all in wonder cards to show TV and capture? An easy task in windows, not so much for me... kinda a newbie.
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> redDEADresolve, not a problem
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> you want no windows
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:30] <redDEADresolve> so everything in exe3 and i should load up huh?
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> if gparted boots ok, wipe the drive
[05:30] <Madhouze> hey all
[05:31] <nomasteryoda> into 3 partitions redDEADresolve
[05:31] <Madhouze> i have 2 problems which i am not sure if they are connected:
[05:31] <nomasteryoda> '/ for root /home and swap
[05:31] <tritium> !enter
[05:31] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[05:31] <Madhouze> 1. when i start my ubuntu, i get a "home" window opened automatically but no frames or title bars and ni keyboard shortcut is working
[05:32] <Madhouze> also i cannot add any program to my session start up- once i restart whatever i added gets deleted.
[05:32] <Crescendo> I'm trying to umount, and it still won't umount - wine is killed, not running.
[05:32] <Crescendo> :/
[05:33] <redDEADresolve> its loading, so ill wipe it and reinstall into 3 partitions.  thanks hopefully it will work
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> but is necessary for those who do not speak good English... from time to time. But that is my choice. I could | everthing toghether into runonwords andmakeithardtoreadorjust be niceandbreakup
[05:33] <Madhouze> 2. whenever i try to run a program or a game at full screen my Xserver dies!!! monitor goes off and all, i can still change to other VTs... but cant do a thing with VT7
[05:33] <Madhouze> can anybody help me?
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> shorter phrases are better and space is the same in the logs except for one extra enter for each line.
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> Madhouze, hang on..
[05:33] <Madhouze> i will
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> what is the card type you have
[05:34] <Madhouze> nomasteryoda, me?
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> i'll try until someone else picks up the shield
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> yes
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> you Madhouze
[05:35] <nomasteryoda> domo arigato mister_roboto
[05:35] <nomasteryoda> =D heheh
[05:35] <mister_roboto> nomasteryoda: ;)
[05:35] <Madhouze> nomasteryoda, i have a XFX Geforce 6200
[05:35] <nomasteryoda> good madc
[05:35] <nomasteryoda> er, Madhouze
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> !nvidia
[05:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:36] <Madhouze> i have nvidia drivers installed
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> ah
[05:36] <Madhouze> tried to uninstall and reinstall, but did not change a thing
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> then that is the issue at hand...
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> did you put in the "nvidia" as the type into the xorg.conf file?
[05:36] <Madhouze> yep
[05:37] <Madhouze> and i get the cool nvidia screen when linux is loading...
[05:38] <radioaktivstorm> how would i use the swap partition on the HDD as opposed tto creating a swap file?
[05:38] <dk0r> Help. dk0r@ubuntu:~$ screen -list
[05:38] <Madhouze> any idea nomasteryoda ?
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> Madhouze, is this a new install or existing?... i.e. did a home partition exist before you started?
[05:38] <dk0r> I dont think screen is working
[05:38] <dk0r> dk0r@ubuntu:~$ screen -list
[05:38] <dk0r> No Sockets found in /var/run/screen/S-dk0r.
[05:39] <SilentDis> hello :)
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> radioaktivstorm, you need to determine what the UUDI for that partiton is
[05:39] <Madhouze> well- i am dual booting with vista... but since my ubuntu crashed after i upgraded from dapper to edgy, this is a fresh installation...
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> ah ok... good
[05:39] <radioaktivstorm> nomasteryoda, how do i find this?
[05:39] <lzmmzl> hello
[05:39] <Madhouze> nomasteryoda, but it WAS working fine until recently... that is- the full screen and frames issue did not exist - although i could not add any new programs to my session start up from the start.
[05:40] <nomasteryoda> ah, did you let a new kernel install?
[05:40] <Madhouze> hm.... yes.
[05:40] <Madhouze> i see now that this could actually have been when problems started....
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> then you most certainly will need to regen the nvidia binaries..
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> try dropping down to the kernel below in grub
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> just one level and see if it still exisits
[05:41] <Madhouze> i will... let me try. i'll be back shortly.
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:41] <roycebarber> anyone in here connected to art.ubuntu.com youre on my anger list for making the site so slow
[05:41] <Madhouze> thank you so much nomasteryoda !
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> np
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:42] <nomasteryoda> it is always that slow roycebarber ... imho
[05:42] <nomasteryoda> too much art
[05:42] <SilentDis> question:  I'm thinking of going to Edgy (currently on Dapper).  I'd probably do a fresh install.  my /home is on a seperate partition.  would i need to delete anything from my current profile, and would it 'carry over' properly (no weird permissions issues, for example)
[05:42] <nomasteryoda> SilenceGold, is this a "production box"
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> as in you use it daily?
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> and rely on it?.... or significant other uses it.. i really want to move over, but edgy is edgy on some boxes... recommend renaming old profile folder then making new one with new install
[05:44] <roycebarber> other than the CRAPPY art.ubuntu.com, is there a place where i can post mock up images of future ubuntu versions
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> i.e. the '/home/user1 should become user2 to be safe
[05:44] <SilentDis> nomasteryoda:  i assume you're refering to me, SilentDis?  *giggle*  yes, it's my main 'puter.
[05:44] <bilange> SilentDis, I did this kind of migration from Breezy to Dapper, and worked okay (no permission issues), but I dont know about Edgy... YMMV, and id backup your vital stuff just in case.
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> oops
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> yes ... the only thing about home... you should start fresh to get newer gnome stuff
[05:45] <redDEADresolve> nomateryoda edgy still will not recognize my hard drive
[05:45] <AsheD> how does one play a DVD in Ubuntu?
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> redDEADresolve, then the boot loader of of that disk is your issue...
[05:45] <roycebarber> bah..technology... *whips out a pen and pad of paper*. i need no technology. *lights go out*. shoot.
[05:45] <Maurox> opening the dvd room :P
[05:46] <bimberi> !dvd | AsheD
[05:46] <ubotu> AsheD: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> get the alternate cd redDEADresolve and try it instead I have seen issues with that too. They are documented in the forums
[05:46] <SilentDis> nomasteryoda:  ahhh, ok.  so boot from the live edgy cd, mount /dev/hdb3, rename the home folder with my old stuff, install, then migrate my files back?
[05:46] <Crescendo> How do I activate a second video card in Edgy?  I installed the card on a PCI slot, and have a monitor connected. lspc returns an unknown device, but no video card.
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> yu gout it
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> got it
[05:46] <SilentDis> !dvd | AsheD
[05:46] <ubotu> AsheD: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:47] <radioaktivstorm> nomasteryoda, how would i mount the swap partition now that ive found the UUDI?
[05:47] <nomasteryoda> oh good...
[05:47] <nomasteryoda> radioaktivstorm, try "man swapon"
[05:47] <CharlieSu> Has anyone used encryption via this method?  I think documentation is messed up for Ubuntu.  https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/module-details.html#partman-crypto
[05:47] <shayan_> hey, does anyone know a kill command for conky? like  " kill conky" or something like that?
[05:48] <SilentDis> another option i have is to backup everything to my ximeta net disk... but i hear they don't quite work yet in edgy.  that's the big sticking point as to why i've not upgraded yet :P
[05:48] <nomasteryoda> if it mounts ok, then edit your /etc/fstab and add the line needed
[05:48] <bilange> actually, for DVD playback, I would let automatix do the trick. I just put a CD in and Totem popped up automaticly.. thanks to automatix. Installing by hand would cause more harm IMO
[05:48] <bimberi> shayan_: 'killall conky' if conky is the command that the process is running
[05:48] <nomasteryoda> SilentDis, if its in a separate partition, just make new folder called backup and move into it
[05:49] <SilentDis> shayan_:  you can do a ps -A | grep -i conky... or use killall
[05:49] <Madhouze> hey nomasteryoda... im back, and bearing bad news- it didnt help
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> radioaktivstorm, as example my line for swap is... "UUID=a77dc04c-7b7e-4251-9dc6-93e5e604d9d6 none swap sw 0 0"
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> man Madhouze thats not good news
[05:50] <SilentDis> nomasteryoda:  the net disk is a weirdo little drive I picked up a while back.  it's like a USB HD, but connects via ethernet.  it doesn't use NAS, rather, their own particular thing called NDAS.  i got the driver working in dapper at least
[05:50] <Madhouze> nomasteryoda, actually- this is the thing- i now get the frame and title bar and all- it happened the last time i rebooted too, but not before... i think that for some reason metacity was not being loaded at startup
[05:50] <JasonMog-sad> cant a file belong to more than one group?
[05:51] <SilentDis> nomasteryoda:  had to compile from source, iirc :P
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> ah
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> wow
[05:51] <radioaktivstorm> nomasteryoda, that's located in the /etc/fstab...its in there, but ubuntu isnt using it at all
[05:51] <Madhouze> but still- i cant run vid/games full screen- it kills my session.... the screen just goes black and then turns off... i can still switch to other VTs tho...
[05:52] <Madhouze> nomasteryoda, seems like you are very popular....
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> ok, radioaktivstorm if it was formatted as swap then it should be able to with the swapon command as outlined in man swapon
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> Madhouze, just the only one answering tonight
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> =D
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> thanks
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> and that will end shortly.. 12am
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> sleep comes soon
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> so Madhouze did you try to enable beryl?
[05:52] <Madhouze> nomasteryoda, is there anything else you can think of?
[05:52] <Madhouze> yes.
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> ah
[05:53] <SilentDis> nomasteryoda:  you are better versed than I is all.  i help where i can ;)
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> thats the issue ... i could not get that working with my nvidia based dell
[05:53] <Madhouze> actually - before when i did not get the frames and bars, the only way i got passed it was loading the beryl-manager....
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> ya
[05:53] <caveMan> can I restart X without quiting xchat?
[05:54] <Madhouze> really? for me beryl worked right off after the ap-tget...
[05:54] <nomasteryoda> Madhouze, see if emerald is loaded.... ps ax |grep emerald
[05:54] <Madhouze> it is
[05:54] <jair> hey guys, it is ok if I enable all the repositories on my xubuntu?
[05:54] <Ecko2056> how can i use apt-cache to search whats installed already? not whats available ..
[05:54] <nomasteryoda> caveMan, er not unless you had it going as another tty like tty9
[05:54] <nomasteryoda> Madhouze, then try killall -9 emerald
[05:55] <SilentDis> jair:  it won't HURT, but you'll get a lot of non-free libraries in there.  if you're working on the machine from a school, might be best to leave it be, just so you don't end up in legal troubles :P
[05:55] <Madhouze> says: no process killed
[05:55] <jair> the thing is that I selected all the different repositories.
[05:55] <nomasteryoda> sudo
[05:55] <Madhouze> oh, i should probably root that..
[05:55] <Madhouze> .hehe
[05:55] <caveMan> nomasteryoda, how do I have it in another tty, I'm messing around with X but have to quit irc on each restart
[05:55] <nomasteryoda> =D
[05:55] <jair> SilentDis: ohh ok but I am using it strictly personal, at home :)
[05:55] <Madhouze> still says "emerald: no process killed"
[05:56] <SilentDis> jair:  then you should be OK, for the most part :)
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> caveMan, the other option is "ctrl+alt+F1" then login as your username, using issri (i think that is the name)
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> ctrlaltF7 to get back
[05:56] <jair> SilentDis: other thing really quick, this version of Debian normally does everything from a gui? can i also do my installations using apt-get ?
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> jair, yes
[05:57] <Madhouze> nomasteryoda, hmph... any other ideas?
[05:57] <caveMan> I see
[05:57] <nomasteryoda> looking
[05:57] <jair> SilentDis: what i am trying to find is the right codecs to watch my dvds and couple of slipknot videos :)
[05:57] <Centaur5> How can I make the syslog file stop reporting to the terminal?
[05:57] <Madhouze> nomasteryoda,  what about the fact that i cannot change or add programs from my session startup?
[05:57] <jair> nomasteryoda: I see
[05:57] <nomasteryoda> caveMan, you can also click the "exit" or power off button and choose switch user
[05:57] <n0dl> i have a probelm. sudo tells me that it is unable to lookup localhost via gethostname()
[05:58] <n0dl> how can i fix this?
[05:58] <n0dl> i cant reboot without sudo
[05:58] <jair> nomasteryoda: so everything else should work the same as sarge? or etch? apt-get cache policy dpkg-l etc..
[05:58] <nomasteryoda> Madhouze, if the session crashed, then a locked file might exisit too in your ~/ folder
[05:58] <bimberi> n0dl: reboot into recovery mode and make sure /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname have the same hostname
[05:58] <radioaktivstorm> nomasteryoda, terminal returns 'invalid argument' when i try swapon according to the mans
[05:58] <Madhouze> nomasteryoda,  and then?
[05:58] <Ecko2056> how can i use apt-cache to search whats installed already? not whats available ..
[05:58] <nomasteryoda> jair, but use the ubuntu repos to stay "true " to ubuntu
[05:59] <nomasteryoda> Ecko2056, hang on
[05:59] <n0dl> bimberi: i cant reboot
[05:59] <bimberi> Ecko2056: dpkg -l | grep ^ii    will tell you what's installed
[05:59] <nomasteryoda> man apt-cache
[05:59] <rycardyx> Alguem conhece um programa pra gravao de cd, sem ser o k3b?
[05:59] <nomasteryoda> that works thanks bimberi
[05:59] <Ecko2056> thank you
[05:59] <bimberi> n0dl: no physical access
[05:59] <bimberi> ?
[05:59] <bimberi> nomasteryoda: yw :)
[05:59] <jair> nomasteryoda: I see
[05:59] <jair> nomasteryoda: Thanks
[06:00] <nomasteryoda> yup
[06:00] <nomasteryoda> bimberi, what are the lock files that lock sessions?
[06:00] <Crescendo> Bah, when will right click mounting an ISO be default in Ubuntu?
[06:00] <Crescendo> :/
[06:00] <nomasteryoda> me brain is tired
[06:00] <jair> nomasteryoda: are you familiar with a site where I can get the codecs to watch the videos on totem or any other multimedia apps?
[06:00] <bimberi> nomasteryoda: my brain doesn't know sorry
[06:00] <boo-radley> [Automatic Nickname Explanation]  Arthur "Boo" Radley symbolizes tortured innocence. A gentle creature, he is viewed with fear by the children, as he was by the townspeople in general. The children do not come to a better understanding of him until the end of the work. He does several heroic things, including giving Scout a blanket during a neighborhood fire, and saving the children from attempted murder. His misconceived good nature t
[06:01] <caveMan> nomasteryoda, is there some sort of proxy program for console, so that it keeps my irc connection alive even when I quit xchat
[06:01] <nomasteryoda> !codecs
[06:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:01] <boo-radley> hi
[06:01] <nomasteryoda> jair, thats the info
[06:01] <nomasteryoda> howdy
[06:01] <jair> nomasteryoda: thank you I will check it out
[06:01] <boo-radley> i have declared a jihad against ubuntu's monitor settings implementation
[06:01] <nomasteryoda> try looking in synaptic
[06:01] <nomasteryoda> or apt-cache search proxy
[06:02] <nomasteryoda> boo-radley, they do suc
[06:02] <nomasteryoda> the gui in suse is best
[06:02] <nomasteryoda> bar-non
[06:02] <radioaktivstorm> D: my swap files hate me!!!
[06:02] <nomasteryoda> good luck people
[06:02] <nomasteryoda> i crashe
[06:02] <nomasteryoda> d
[06:02] <nomasteryoda> nn
[06:03] <AsheD> so I tried using gxine as a media player, but I can't change the langauge, its always Portuguese :(
[06:03] <bung> hey all, i was upgrading my computer and it overheated and shutoff right in the middle of an update. now it wont start up at all, so i wanted to use knoppix to fix it, but ive chrooted in and it doesnt recognize the internet connection, any thoughts?
[06:04] <radioaktivstorm> ok... can someone tell me why i cannot use swapon -a to access my swap?
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> What's a good curses-type CD player frontend for cli playing?
[06:04] <bimberi> nomasteryoda: perhaps a 'sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /home/$USER' might help that sessions issue.  Madhouze has quit though.
[06:04] <boo-radley> argh
[06:04] <boo-radley> i just popped this huge ass pimple on my ball sac
[06:05] <boo-radley> a bunch of green spooge came out
[06:05] <Raimondi> I need to connect to a VNC server behind a router to help a friend, my friend can use ssh to connect to my computer and create a tunnel, but I can't find the command to get it done, any help?
[06:05] <boo-radley> hurts like hell
[06:05] <bimberi> radioaktivstorm: sudo swapon -a   ??
[06:05] <boo-radley> teh hell?
[06:05] <radioaktivstorm> im root already
[06:05] <DBO> boo-radley, keep it clean please
[06:05] <bimberi> radioaktivstorm: k
[06:05] <boo-radley> im sorry, but it hurts like a b
[06:06] <DBO> boo-radley, yeah but this is not the place for that kind of conversation
[06:06] <radioaktivstorm> bimberi, it gives me 'invalid argument'
[06:06] <boo-radley> k ill go to #ballsacpimples
[06:06] <dibblego> how do you back up a ubuntu disk image?
[06:06] <KDan> after editing /etc/crontab, how do i tell cron to reload that system crontab?
[06:06] <bimberi> radioaktivstorm: i'm not sure sorry
[06:07] <dibblego> KDan, you should be using crontab -e
[06:07] <radioaktivstorm> bimberi, its cool, thanks
[06:07] <jair> how can i see if I am using 1024x768 on the resolution of my video?
[06:07] <bimberi> !backup | dibblego
[06:07] <ubotu> dibblego: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[06:07] <KDan> dibblego: yeah i know. what if i use the system crontab instead?
[06:08] <KDan> how do i tell it to load?
[06:08] <dibblego> bimberi, ta
[06:08] <bimberi> jair: system -> prefs -> screen resolution
[06:08] <bimberi> dibblego: yw :)
[06:08] <fiyawerx> anyone by chance what would cause dns in *buntu to just seem to stop resolving names for a few minutes? Doesnt' happen on the other side of this dual boot, and my secondary dns is a completely different isp
[06:08] <jair> I checked but i see other options 800x600 and I really think my video card can hanlde the 1024x760 I was checking on the /etc/x11/xorg.conf and default is = 24 --> 1024x768 but I am not getting that.
[06:09] <fiyawerx> i dont lose any existing connections, either
[06:09] <fiyawerx> it just stops resolving names
[06:09] <radioaktivstorm> im wondering....is it just better to start over and reinstall ubuntu? :\  i dont know what to do about this swap problem
[06:09] <radioaktivstorm> this computer *needs* swap to be useful...its running 256MB RAM
[06:10] <jair> bimberi: hmm but I am not getting that resolution though
[06:12] <Daylighter> hey guys, is there anything I can install to change the individual colors of my gnome themes?
[06:12] <bsnider> is there a lirc channel here?
[06:12] <bimberi> jair: not in the list or not selected?
[06:13] <jair> bimberi: it is not in the list, but I check the 800x600 and was bigger than the one I am and on the "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" appears 1024x768 default.
[06:13] <jokoon> Hello
[06:14] <jair> bimberi: I guess i am getting that then.
[06:14] <jair> it is a way I can reconfigure the video?
[06:14] <jokoon> Is there a true way to change the desktop mouse sensitivity ?
[06:14] <bimberi> !fixres | jair
[06:14] <ubotu> jair: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:14] <dabaR> bsnider: http://www.lirc.org/html/help.html#faq does not say anything about that.
[06:14] <jokoon> keeping the accel to 0
[06:14] <jair> bimberi: thanks
[06:15] <bimberi> jair: np, hope it helps :)
[06:15] <dabaR> Daylighter: the theme comes in a particular color, and I have not heard of such a program. You can try another theme.
[06:15] <dabaR> jokoon: did you look under system>preferences>mouse
[06:15] <Daylighter> yeah, that's what's annoying
[06:15] <Daylighter> I want to change everything independently
[06:15] <bsnider> has anybody got lirc working with totem?
[06:16] <jokoon> dabaR no I looked on the keyboard panel, sorry I'll check that
[06:16] <dabaR> jokoon: there is also a mouse section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:16] <jokoon> thank you
[06:17] <dabaR> you're welcome
[06:17] <CPrgmSwR2> I found out why gentoo is better than ubuntu
[06:17] <jason0_> Any way to do a text install from the "desktop" cd? Just realized the live cd won't work with my laptop.
[06:17] <dabaR> CPrgmSwR2: tell us
[06:17] <RHLinuxGUY> is it possible to install Ubuntu 6.10 without having to boot into the live desktop?
[06:18] <Flannel> jason0_: nope.  You'll need the altenrate CD
[06:18] <ne78> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[06:18] <jair> bimberi: thank you i really like the docuementation of Ubuntu, very large and simple.
[06:18] <Flannel> RHLinuxGUY: alternate CD
[06:18] <bimberi> jason0_: unfortunately no :|
[06:18] <CPrgmSwR2> Ubuntu lacks quite a bit of packages
[06:18] <jason0_> Flannel: =( Bummer.
[06:18] <ne78> How can i get the official ubuntu key ?
[06:18] <RHLinuxGUY> Flannel: TY!
[06:18] <CPrgmSwR2> No beryl
[06:18] <jair> I am going to eat something be back later.
[06:18] <ne78> (for apt)
[06:18] <CPrgmSwR2> No audacity
[06:18] <CPrgmSwR2> no lives
[06:18] <bimberi> jair: good to hear!
[06:18] <CPrgmSwR2> No gyach
[06:18] <radioaktivstorm> quit wow its gettin late.
[06:18] <Sby_Fitnes_DiRan> SERVU MATRIX DALNIT
[06:18] <radioaktivstorm> oops
[06:18] <radioaktivstorm> lol
[06:19] <CPrgmSwR2> the package represor shows only 4500 packages
[06:19] <CPrgmSwR2> gentoo has 11,000
[06:19] <funkyHat> My wireless card is showing up as eth1 rather than w0 :-S
[06:19] <funkyHat> How can I fix that?
[06:19] <dabaR> CPrgmSwR2: did you enable universe and multiverse?
[06:19] <KDan> btw, the answer to my question was that you run "crontab /etc/crontab"
[06:19] <phrizer> CPrgmSwR2, did you add multiverse and univcerse?
[06:19] <phrizer> universe*
[06:19] <CPrgmSwR2> How do I add that
[06:19] <Flannel> !easysource | ne78, this page, generate your sources.list, it'll give you keys
[06:19] <ubotu> ne78, this page, generate your sources.list, it'll give you keys: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:19] <bimberi> CPrgmSwR2: funny, i've got 20208 here :)
[06:20] <CPrgmSwR2> in ubuntu?
[06:20] <Daylighter> open some repositories
[06:20] <Daylighter> *add
[06:20] <dabaR> CPrgmSwR2: ya, you did not enable all the repositories.
[06:20] <bimberi> CPrgmSwR2: yes, once universe & multiverse are added you'll see them too
[06:20] <phrizer> CPrgmSwR2, 17,000 odd listed for me.
[06:20] <CPrgmSwR2> so how do I enable them?
[06:20] <Daylighter> I've got some third party repos, so I've got about 25,000
[06:21] <RHLinuxGUY> CPrgmSwR2: gentoo FTW
[06:21] <bimberi> !universe | CPrgmSwR2
[06:21] <ubotu> CPrgmSwR2: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:22] <CPrgmSwR2> okay let me retry in a minute
[06:22] <shayan_> guys, im booting into ubuntu at like 180megs of memory, wtf
[06:22] <shayan_> lol
[06:22] <shayan_> how can i reduce this?
[06:22] <CPrgmSwR2> now I have 19000 packages
[06:22] <phrizer> shayan_, huh?
[06:23] <pc3>   /#jurabaya
[06:23] <shayan_> phrizer, im talking about mem usage
[06:23] <ne78> Flannel: Thanks i found that it is key 437D05B5
[06:23] <phrizer> shayan_, what about it?
[06:23] <CPrgmSwR2> wtf there is no berly
[06:23] <CPrgmSwR2> I mean beryl
[06:23] <iter> !beryl | CPrgmSwR2
[06:23] <ubotu> CPrgmSwR2: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:23] <shayan_> phrizer, what programs can i kill to make mem usage less?
[06:23] <CPrgmSwR2> And gyach?
[06:24] <Daylighter> beryl is wonderful, I'll rejoice more when 1.0 comes out
[06:24] <Flannel> shayan_: unused ram is wasted ram.  Linux loads lots of stuff into memory, to use it quickly.  It'll manage it if you actually need that for other stuff, etc.
[06:24] <CPrgmSwR2> I already have beryl in gentoo
[06:24] <shayan_> Flannel, well it used to boot into gnome at like 120 megs...
[06:24] <CPrgmSwR2> and what is a good movie editor in linux
[06:25] <CPrgmSwR2> since I cannot download LIVES
[06:25] <shayan_> CPrgmSwR2, cinerella
[06:25] <tonyyarusso> Hi, I have a USB external hard drive that automounts when I plug it into my laptop at /media/usbdisk, but when I plug it into my desktop machine (server install, no X, etc.), no luck.  Any ideas?
[06:25] <CPrgmSwR2> cinerrella doesn't exist
[06:26] <shayan_> CPrgmSwR2,  you need to install some extra repos , seacrch the forum
[06:26] <joevandyk> Is there a straightforward way to limit my upload speed?  I'm backing up my stuff to a remote server and it's killing my download speeds
[06:26] <CPrgmSwR2> okay
[06:29] <anan> i installed qt4-designer, does anyone now where it is located and how to start it ? please help
[06:29] <iter> joevandyk: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/187
[06:30] <AsheD> anybody use acidrip?
[06:30] <Lathiat> anan: dpkg -L qt4-designer|grep bin says 'designer-qt4'
[06:30] <Lathiat> anan: which is a bit backwards, but there you go ;)
[06:31] <anan> thank u Lathiat ^_^
[06:31] <ne78> Where can i find the ubuntu and kubuntu default choosen set of package (like a bare: dpkg --get-selections, just after install)
[06:31] <CPrgmSwR2> I have 19,000 pckgs
[06:31] <CPrgmSwR2> Did I enable everything thing
[06:31] <CPrgmSwR2> because I still cannot find cinerella
[06:31] <NsOmNiAc> anyone here played with IPV6 on Ubuntu ?
[06:31] <joevandyk> iter: that article doesn't seem to helpful
[06:32] <ne78> Where can i find the ubuntu and kubuntu default choosen set of package (like a bare: dpkg --get-selections, just after install) because i dist-upgrade from debian etch and i don't want to miss some important stuff
[06:33] <ne78> CPrgmSwR2 i think it's only available in some unofficial repository
[06:33] <ne78> CPrgmSwR2: try looking for "cinerella deb" on google
[06:33] <CPrgmSwR2> I am just pointing out the probleems with ubuntu
[06:35] <iter> joevandyk: just replace INPUT with OUTPUT
[06:35] <mikedoty> Hey ... suddenly I can't access any of my taskbar things anymore, neither the program taskbar or the other one (with time, shutdown, etc. menus) ... how can I get them back?  I just can't click on 'em
[06:35] <Flannel> CPrgmSwR2: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:36] <mikedoty> My alt-tab list only shows my copies of Opera I have open, though I have 3 terminals and 2 folders open as well ... actually it's failing to show 2 of the instances of Opera
[06:36] <CPrgmSwR2> for one its called cinlera not cinrella
[06:36] <mikedoty> If I open a new instance of opera, that one also gets added to alt-tab list at least
[06:37] <CPrgmSwR2> Well I looked it up and gentoo has it in their portage system
[06:38] <dibblego> how do you list all installed packages?
[06:39] <Flannel> dibblego: dpkg -l
[06:40] <dibblego> ta
[06:40] <CPrgmSwR2> I just found something else out about gentoo vs ubuntu
[06:40] <CPrgmSwR2> ubuntu has many packages split up
[06:40] <CPrgmSwR2> gentoo has them more grouped together
[06:40] <Flannel> CPrgmSwR2: Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:40] <mikedoty> Oh gosh more are disappearing.  How can I get my window manager back working, do I need to reboot the hard way?
[06:41] <CPrgmSwR2> sorry
[06:42] <manny0> hey how do i disable the feature that auto plays audio files when you drag teh mouse over them?
[06:42] <dibblego> what's the command to report disk usage of a directory?
[06:43] <Flannel> dibblego: du
[06:43] <jgArr> dibblego: du (like Disk Usage)
[06:43] <dibblego> that's the one ta
[06:44] <manny0> ?
[06:44] <manny0> anyone?
[06:45] <ixian_> manny0, open a file browser window then go to edit > preferences > preview
[06:46] <mikedoty> No one knows how to recover these taskbars?
[06:46] <manny0> wow
[06:46] <manny0> thanks buddy
[06:48] <jordo23> Anyone here ever setup teamspeak under Ubuntu?
[06:49] <mikedoty> Lay pity at the feet of he who switches to ubuntu, for here he shall find no help!  Bah!
[06:51] <boodzut> Hello, i got my ftp and apache working on ubuntu good today thanks to the support here :D how does my site load for alot of you ---> http://malt.kicks-ass.net/~malt/
[06:51] <tom47> boodzut great
[06:52] <boodzut> :D nice
[06:52] <mikedoty> Yeah, I was afraid of that, it booted me out.  Ah well, guess it's ok
[06:52] <DBO> boodzut, congrats, welcome to the wide world of server insecurity =)
[06:52] <tom47> which continent are you on ... was very responsive
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> Hi, I have a USB external hard drive that automounts when I plug it into my laptop at /media/usbdisk, but when I plug it into my desktop machine (server install, no X, etc.), no luck.  Any ideas?
[06:53] <boodzut> DBO why you say that find something insecure about it?
[06:53] <DBO> boodzut, no I was just being silly =)
[06:53] <Chi_0> can any one help me w/ my ati install
[06:53] <boodzut> oh
[06:53] <boodzut> lol
[06:53] <tom47> boodzut where in te world are you ... was very responsive her in oz
[06:54] <boodzut> im in united states North Carolina tom47
[06:54] <tom47> amazing
[06:54] <aztracker1> Chi_0, honestly, it may be easier to trade out for an nvidia card.. hopefully the amd buyout will help int he linux driver dept.
[06:54] <boodzut> my load average 0.67 to :D not even 1%
[06:54] <boodzut> <3 ubuntu
[06:54] <ixian_> anyone know of a good tutorial for installing tor on edgy?
[06:54] <Chi_0> yeah i know but im running a notebook :(
[06:55] <Chi_0> i only had this problem switching to edgy
[06:56] <tom47> ixian i was even more paranoid with tor running on my desktop than without it lol
[06:56] <tom47> took it off again
[06:57] <totall_6_7> !tor
[06:57] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[06:57] <boodzut> and im running apache, ftp, ssh , and a 2 slot game server
[06:57] <boodzut> I ment linux so good on resources and im running all that above and its not even 1%
[06:57] <boodzut> cpu usage
[06:58] <jordo23> Does anyone know how to setup TeamSpeak on Ubuntu?
[06:58] <boodzut> its at 0.34
[06:58] <boodzut> :D
[06:58] <tom47> boodzut wait until you have signed up a million users
[06:58] <boodzut> yeah
 just intsall
[06:58] <Maurox> install *
[06:58] <boodzut> but for a 2 slot game server its doing good to be under 1%
[06:58] <tom47> !teamspeak
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about teamspeak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <boodzut> thats always changing maps and stuff
[06:58] <tom47> ok
[06:59] <specialbuddy> is there a way to force chmod on an external harddrive?
[06:59] <jordo23> tom4: have you set this up?
[06:59] <tom47> specialbuddy i believe its safer to establish a folder on it and then chown that
[07:00] <specialbuddy> yeah but I can't change the permissions at all for the drives
[07:02] <tom47> try putting a folder on it and changing perms on hat speialbuddy
[07:03] <specialbuddy> that didn't work tom47
[07:03] <specialbuddy> I can't change any of the permissions
[07:04] <specialbuddy> what should I go with if I'm using the hard drive just for storage, fat or ext?
[07:05] <tom47> specialbuddy my feeling is fat32 gives you greater flexibility should you want access on another co,puter at some time
[07:05] <Lam_> i'm assuming i can't force apt-get to install a package without having its dependency check
[07:05] <roycebarber> anyone know if WinFS (whenever the schmook it comes out) will be available for Ubuntu?
[07:06] <Lathiat> roycebarber: erm, didnt microsoft scrap that?
[07:06] <foo> How can I add a network printer? What's the command line tool again? cups ?
[07:06] <nofxx_> How can I control my notebook cpu fan speed ?!  it is starting when the proc reaches 60C...
[07:06] <tom47> foo i use the gui
[07:06] <foo> tom47: yes, what is the CLI? Hm
[07:06] <foo> option, that is
[07:06] <roycebarber> MS delayed WinFS but i highly doubt they scrapped it.
[07:06] <specialbuddy> is there any other drawbacks to using fat or ext tom47?