[00:00] <Frijolie> kjell, ikonia, thanks
[00:00] <ikonia> andrew__: show me ls -la on the stdio.h
[00:00] <freazer> Frijolie: sorry there isn't always a gui way to do it :-( I'm frustrated with that often myself - on fresh Ubuntu installs I add myself to the 'users' group and set that as my default, all new users I also add, if you aren't using multiple then you can ignore the :yourgroup and just do sudo chown -R yourusername ./media
[00:00] <andrew__> ikonia: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31053 Jan  9 14:08 stdio.h
[00:00] <Frijolie> is there a suggested way to handle groups, I have 30+ pre populated groups in here...
[00:00] <andrew__> as a normal user, i can read the files fine
[00:01] <Frijolie> isn't it smarter--security wise--to have fewer groups?
[00:01] <andrew__> and to compile you shouldnt need write permissions on headers
[00:01] <ikonia> andrew__: look inside stdio.h see what else it references, one of the files it's referencing
[00:01] <ikonia> andrew__: one of the files it's referecing must have the wrong permissions
[00:01] <kjell> Frijolie: It depends on what you want to do. If you want to restrict people from using commands etc. it's wise to have groups for that.
[00:01] <freazer> Frijolie: lots of applications and services have their own groups, each has very limited permissions - it's actually fine and necessary by the default install to have quite a lot
[00:01] <owner_> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
[00:01] <owner_> what does that mean?
[00:02] <kjell> owner_: The public key is not available.
[00:02] <Frijolie> freazer, kjell, so one user may be a member of multiple groups--to handle access/permissions to various applications
[00:02] <owner_> it said something about a synaptic app already being open also but thre isn't one
[00:02] <owner_> how can I see what is running other than on the taskbar?
[00:02] <kjell> owner_: in the terminal run ps -a
[00:03] <sjefen6> Does anyone know how to open sda1 (ntfs) in xubuntu?
[00:03] <sjefen6> (live cd)
[00:03] <kjell> owner_: or ps -e
[00:03] <Dante123> hi all, installed ubuntu 8.10 on Dell Inspiron 1501 with 1gb ram.  It is using open source video driver, but I see under restricted drivers there is an ATI/AMD proprietary driver.  Should I use this?  Will it work better?  What do you recommend?
[00:03] <kjell> owner_: if you want to filter it you can run ps -e | grep firefox
[00:03] <kjell> owner_: to retrieve firefox in the list
[00:03] <Mba7eth> My home ubuntu box is have IP from DHCP pool by ISP. How can i keep knowing my IP even if the address changed.... I main want to ip to telnet ?
[00:04] <kjell> Mba7eth: run ifconfig in terminal
[00:04] <owner_> it says
[00:04] <owner_> PID TTY          TIME CMD
[00:04] <owner_>  7284 pts/1    00:00:00 ps
[00:04] <kjell> owner_: only that? if you ran ps -e?
[00:04] <freazer> Mba7eth: I recommend dyndns.org or some other dynamic utility - you can get a URL like Mba7eth.dyndns.org that will always point to your computer - there are tools that can run as a service on your ubuntu machine that will keep that website up to date
[00:05] <Mba7eth> freazer: can you mention a tool plzzz :)
[00:05] <freazer> Frijolie: FYI there are three tiers to file access, user level, group level, and "other"=everyone - there's rwx for each r=read, w=write, x=execute(as in programs) - yes users can be apart of multiple groups, but I think files can only be associated with a single group - if you only want to backup on your current account it's fine to change the ownership of that media folder to just your username, but leave the group as root (whic
[00:06] <owner_> ok it  all kinds of stuff, what am I looking for?
[00:06] <kjell> owner_: I don't know? Why do you want to see the processes?
[00:06] <kjell> owner_: Do you want to terminate a process or something?
[00:06] <owner_> it said I couldn't authentic or update because a synaptic app was already running
[00:07] <kjell> owner_: It's not?
[00:07] <owner_> maybe a synaptic process, but I don't see it anywhere
[00:07] <freazer> Mba7eth: I use ddclient http://ddclient.wiki.sourceforge.net/ to update - it has support for a number of dynamic dns websites -- dyndns.org is currently annoying me because it e-mails me once a month when my IP doesn't change
[00:07] <kjell> owner_: It could be like, apt-get aswell I think.
[00:07] <Frijolie> so, it would not be safe to delete all of these groups besides root and user?
[00:07] <BlueEagle> owner_: Has synaptic finished uncleanly? Have you got any installations using other apt-based methods running?
[00:07] <Mba7eth> freazer:  thanks
[00:08] <owner_> yeah
[00:08] <freazer> Frijolie: I'd advice against it ^^ - trust Ubuntu to be setup the way it needs to be
[00:08] <kjell> owner_: make sure all apt-get's and so on is finished installing.
[00:08] <owner_> hw?
[00:08] <andrew__> ikonia: ok all my libs / headers have exactly the same permissions, but i have noticed that stdio.h includes a few files that exist in subfolders of the include directory but arent specified like that in the stdio.h file (surely that would mess things up for all users even root? if it was a problem?)
[00:08] <owner_> HOW
[00:08] <owner_> caps
[00:09] <Dante123> hi all, installed ubuntu 8.10 on Dell Inspiron 1501 with 1gb ram.  It is using open source video driver, but I see under restricted drivers there is an ATI/AMD proprietary driver.  Should I use this?  Will it work better?  What do you recommend?
[00:09] <BlueEagle> mba7eth: It has been my experience though that after pointing a domain to my box the number of port scans and brute force attack attempts increase. Be sure to have a good firewall running and you may want to concider port knocking on remote access servers like ssh.
[00:09] <kjell> Dante123: I would use it.
[00:09] <moonwatcher> anyone has problems with Marvel 88E8056 cards under 8.10
[00:09] <freazer> andrew_: the only reason you should be having that issue is that your lib or important .h headers were not setup as rx-r--r-- (the important thing being that 3rd r in the 7th dash position)
[00:09] <moonwatcher> i think the latest kernel broke something
[00:10] <sjefen6> How can I browse a ntfs patition on a live cd?
[00:10] <owner_> kjell-how to make sure all apt-get's finished?
[00:10] <moonwatcher> its completely messed up
[00:10] <andrew__> freezer, well all my libs and headers have those permissions
[00:10] <kjell> Dante123: By not using propertary software is for some people an ideology question.
[00:10] <Frijolie> freazer, I don't remember Ubuntu prompting me for which group I preferred to be in during install
[00:10] <Frijolie> freazer, do they just create a new group by your username and set that as your default?
[00:10] <kjell> owner_: I don't know. Check your terminals and so on. If you don't find anything I think you will be back on track faster if you just do a reboot.
[00:10] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: any particular kind of "completely messed up" or just _completely_ messed up (ie, the driver files are garbled.
[00:11] <owner_> kjell-good point, thx
[00:11] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: well its refusing to function at 1Gb
[00:11] <redvamp128> Frijolie:  yes -- it defaults to user -- because you can gksu or sudo to obtain root access.
[00:11] <kjell> owner_: no problem, good luck!
[00:11] <moonwatcher> even when lshw says it does
[00:11] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: But it does work at lower speeds?
[00:11] <kjell> owner_: no problem, good luck!
[00:11] <freazer> Frijolie: yes ^^ I always chown my own /home/usern folder to the :users group and then reassign myself to that and delete the group that ubuntu created for just my username - we're getting pretty side tracked tho.. did changing the owner of your media drive away from root work for rsync?
[00:12] <moonwatcher> and the little thingy near the clock (network manager or something) claims its "not managed"
[00:12] <Frijolie> redvamp128, I know about the sudo/gksudo to gain root privileges but was wondering what default group you're placed in
[00:12] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: yes it gives me 2MB/s
[00:12] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: That is the case when the device is defined in your interfaces.
[00:12] <asingha> msg nickserv identify
[00:12] <redvamp128> Frijolie:  User (but is a group with your user name)
[00:12] <Frijolie> freazer, yeah I did change owner/group to <username>:<username>
[00:13] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: maybe i can pasebin some stuff instead of tryign to explain in lame words?
[00:13] <freazer> Frijolie: I'm reading that rsync runs as "nobody" but default and that you might - I'd definately check the config preferences for it if you are still having issues
[00:13] <Frijolie> redvamp128, oh I just changed to the "user" group and deleted my <username> group
[00:13] <BrettS> guys
[00:13] <Cody> What is the operating sysem os x ?
[00:13] <Frijolie> redvamp128, for my personal account
[00:13] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: its an ASUS P5B Deluxe with latest BIOS, has 2 onboard NICs
[00:14] <freazer> Cody: proprietary macintosh os x, I don't think you can buy it separately without buying a mac - despite that it runs on Intel architecture now
[00:14] <BrettS> I'm trying to install linux graphics drivers for my intel 965g card. I am looking at this site, can someone help me... http://intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html
[00:14] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: http://pastebin.com/m4d066925
[00:14] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: Well, first off one would have to try to figure out what you would pastebin. And since you're refering to the network-manager-applet as "the little thing near the clock" we'll need to get the basics straight first.
[00:15] <Cody> freazer:  I have a slight problem. I want my router to find wireless networks and not my computer. How do i do that?
[00:15] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: we dont need to go all the way to basics
[00:15] <moonwatcher> i have a CS degree from a respectable Uni :)
[00:15] <moonwatcher> and about 3 years of linux
[00:15] <andrew__> freazer: ive even gone to the legnths now of chmod all the files in my include directory to 644 (except folders) to make sure they are all correct, and still getting errors when compiling as users but not when as root
[00:15] <moonwatcher> its just that this always worked out of the box, never got around ro dealing with it
[00:16] <moonwatcher> i mean networking
[00:16] <jrib> moonwatcher: what exactly isn't working?
[00:16] <unixdawg> kde 4.2 rocks
[00:16] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: You've used linux for three years and you still don't know what the network manager applet is called? o.0
[00:16] <BlueEagle> jrib: His gigabit nic only puts trough 2 MiB/s
[00:16] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: its always there near the clock, i never gave it much attention :)
[00:17] <BlueEagle> jrib: I am figuring cable or an interface in between not handling gigabit.
[00:17] <moonwatcher> besides, most of the time i worked either on OpenWrt or a HUGE debian cluster
[00:17] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: Well I'm glad that degree of yours is coming handy. :)
[00:17] <Cody> My computer is what finds wireless connections. Is there a way to connect to a wireless connection from my router and not my computer?
[00:17] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: it worked igabit just before the last kernel bump
[00:18] <BrettS> http://intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html
[00:18] <moonwatcher> anyway, i seriously doubt its doing gigabit
[00:18] <moonwatcher> i think its 100TX
[00:18] <BrettS> Sooo anyone have experience installing linux graphics drivers?
[00:18] <moonwatcher> the led is orange
[00:18] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: Well, that would have been helpful to know before I started to figure out how to debut the cabling and other interfaces. Have you tried downgrading the kernel=
[00:18] <moonwatcher> i think it shoudl be green when on 1000
[00:18] <BlueEagle> ?
[00:18] <matthewh23> hi
[00:19] <freazer> Cody: so your computer is plugged into your router via an ethernet cable, and you want to somehow configure your wireless-capable router to connect to another wireless source rather than be a broadcast service? virtually all of your router configuration will be by accessing it's website via it's ip address from a machine connected directly to it in some way - do I understand the problem statement at least?
[00:19] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: i tried booting a livecd of 8.10 desktop (the system is now on server)
[00:19] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: on the livecd i got about 12MB/s
[00:19] <moonwatcher> which is still not really gigabit but is more likely
[00:20] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: So then it's a kernel configuration issue. I assume you're able to roll your own kernel after 3 years of linux and a uni degree, right?
[00:20] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: not sure :)
[00:20] <moonwatcher> i never went back to an older kernel i am afraid
[00:20] <freazer> BrettS: if you're in Ubuntu you've already tried System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers and confirmed that the proprietary ones aren't already detected? have you gone into Software Sources and enabled the restricted and multiverse repositories?
[00:21] <moonwatcher> is it simply a matter of removing the package and putting in the older one?
[00:21] <moonwatcher> oh wait
[00:21] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: I see. Well, then the best advice I can give you is to bugreport the kernel issue and downgrade to the previous kernel package unless there are updates in there that you really, really need.
[00:21] <moonwatcher> i also installed the tainted Nvidia drivers
[00:21] <moonwatcher> not sure if thats related
[00:21] <Cody> freazer:  I didnt understand how you put that. My computer is plugged into nothing. IT picks up internet connections by itself.
[00:21] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: It should not be, but since it's closed source one can never be sure.
[00:22] <Cody> freazer:  I want the internet connection to go through my router not directly to my computer.
[00:22] <Cody> How do i do that?
[00:22] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: But since that driver is only a module for the kernel it should not affect other parts of it.
[00:22] <mauro_> hello
[00:22] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: would you say those Marvel drivers are easly broken?
[00:22] <MIrrorIMage> mauro: hi
[00:23] <moonwatcher> at some point i though maybe putting in a an Intel PCI-E card woudl be a less painful solution
[00:23] <adubz> what do i need to setup ntfs support for linux?
[00:23] <freazer> BrettS: google is telling me your card is aready supported from Ubuntu 7.04 onwards - intel 965g http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=430277
[00:23] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: Never had a marvel card so I would not know. I also have to little knowledge of the overall implimentation of the module code to know how robust it is against broken modules.
[00:23] <BrettS> well, why is it that I cannot run compiz, that it says missing XGL and xorg etc etc etc
[00:24] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: those marvel cards are very common onboard cards
[00:24] <freazer> adubz: look for a package in Synaptic similar to ntfstools - it will allow you to do all sorts of crazy things like resizing NTFS partitions - just be careful! backup your data beforehand just in case
[00:24] <moonwatcher> on asus boards anyway
[00:24] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: Just out of curiousity: Did you configure the network card in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[00:24] <SherlawkDragon1> How do I restart my Apache server?
[00:24] <SherlawkDragon1> I forgot
[00:24] <freazer> Cody: why did you ask about os x? is that what you're using?
[00:24] <BlueEagle> sherlawkdragon1: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[00:24] <SherlawkDragon1> it's like Apache-Restart or something
[00:24] <SherlawkDragon1> thanks
[00:24] <adubz> i just want to be able to read/write to ntfs drives
[00:24] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: no, but i woudl actually feel more comfortable with that then with the "little thingy near the clock"  :)
[00:25] <BlueEagle> sherlawkdragon1: you may want to just use 'reload' if you just updated some configs.
[00:25] <Cody> freazer:  On the belkin software install cd it did not include Linux so i was wondering what that was.
[00:25] <Frijolie> when it says the group is "1000" what does that mean?
[00:25] <Cody> Im using ubuntu and the software install cd doesnt work.
[00:26] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: Well if the driver supports it you could attempt to force it to 1G instead of 100M (or even 10M if that's what it's running)
[00:26] <freazer> Cody: Ubuntu wireless drivers is a little tricky and not all wireless cards are supported - can you give me the full name of your wireless card? Belkin --- ?
[00:26] <BlueEagle> freazer: That is the groupid. try this: cat /etc/group |grep 1000
[00:27] <BlueEagle> freazer: That should hopefully show the name that belongs to gid 1000
[00:27] <kholerabbi> can I turn gnome-panels off?
[00:27] <BlueEagle> freazer: (most likely the first user defined)
[00:27] <adubz> i can see the drive how would i mount it
[00:28] <freazer> Frijolie: in GNOME I go System -> Administrator -> Users and Groups and I see my own <username> group has a group ID# of 1000, if you deleted it that's probably what's left over ^^; I tried to warn you to chown the group of your files over to a different group before you deleted, where exactly are you seeing the group ID 1000 ?
[00:28] <cphillips> kholerabbi: right click the panel and select "Delete panel"
[00:28] <freazer> BlueEagle:  I didn't ask that but you beat me to the right answer ^^ thanks much
[00:29] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: http://pastebin.com/m176d59e7
[00:29] <Frijolie> freazer, cd /media/disk;ls -l
[00:29] <BlueEagle> freazer: Happy tab-complete-day.
[00:29] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: What does lspci say about your nic?
[00:29] <Cody> freazer:  Maybe im not putting this rite ist my fault.  I want the Belkin router to find the connection and connect to it.
[00:29] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: That's `lspci|grep Ethernet` if you need the command. :)
[00:30] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: http://pastebin.com/m7c5af378
[00:30] <moonwatcher> oops
[00:30] <sav> how can I know which compilation parameters AND "./configure" (if applicable) parameters were used when compiling a package?
[00:30] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: http://pastebin.com/m309dbaf
[00:30] <jrib> !source > sav
[00:30] <jrib> sav: read debian/rules from the source package
[00:31] <jrib> ,,,,,,,,
[00:31] <sav> cool
[00:31] <sav> thanks
[00:31] <chrisrio_> mod_security is killing my inner child, is anyone fairly up-to-date with it by chance? (i've tried in #apache):P
[00:32] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/811253?page=last
[00:32] <SherlawkDragon1> Hmm...
[00:33] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: There seems to be a known issue with rev 12.
[00:33] <freazer> Cody: have you read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=779754 - its a thread that details exactly how to do get your card to work
[00:33] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: its hooked up to a Netgear GS105 switch btw and two other Macs hooked up to it talk 1Gb fine...
[00:33] <SherlawkDragon1> when I go to localhost with firefox, Apache gives me an Access Denied error
[00:33] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: But that post is from '07 and does not explain the downgrade from the latest kernel update.
[00:34] <SherlawkDragon1> What might the problem be?
[00:34] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: Then you may want to check your cabling tbh. Especially if the router indicates it doesn't run at 1G. (Did it indicate that when running from the live cd?)
[00:35] <moonwatcher> the switch said 100
[00:35] <moonwatcher> well it does now
[00:35] <moonwatcher> said 1000 on the livecd
[00:35] <moonwatcher> cables are fine i am quite sure
[00:35] <Flare183> !enter | moonwatcher
[00:35] <albe> ciao a tutti
[00:35] <freazer> Cody: and just to clarify, I don't think routers find and connect to computers - routers are small booklet sized devices that provide ethernet porns and/or broadcast a wireless service to nearby devices - you have a much better chance of configuring a computer than a router - if you're here in this channel I'm assuming this is a new computer installation and not a new router - if the router is new you might need to configure it to
[00:35] <tritium> !it | albe
[00:36] <moonwatcher> Flare183: sorry ...
[00:36] <Flare183> moonwatcher: np
[00:36] <freazer> andrew__: still around?
[00:36] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: I see. Well, then everything points to the drivers in the kernel.
[00:37] <kholerabbi> cphillips: thanks but what I was wanting was to disable gnome-panels (as in the whole shibang) from starting up..
[00:37] <Dante123> hi
[00:37] <SherlawkDragon1> when I go to localhost with firefox, Apache gives me an Access Denied error.  Why might I get this problem?  Is there an access thing I need to set?
[00:37] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: would that be something that is resolved at some point or should i just get a PCI-E NIC?
[00:38] <moonwatcher> the machine is a server for the other 3 Mac boxes in the house and having the link so slow is a bumer
[00:39] <freazer> moonwatcher: it's gibabit ethernet and you're only getting 2 MBytes/sec ?
[00:39] <sagredo> alright
[00:39] <sagredo> who here has been logging this channel the longest
[00:39] <moonwatcher> freazer: well its obviously faulty
[00:40] <sagredo> and where can I access those logs
[00:40] <yurimxpxman> I just installed gnome-do from the repo linked to in their wiki, but there's no docky. Any ideas?
[00:40] <moonwatcher> what would be a good, ubuntu suppported, PCI-E NIC? intel?
[00:40] <bazhang> !1984 > sagredo
[00:40] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: Well, if you report the regression as a bug then it ought to be fixed. And unless there are any important security fixes in the latest kernel and no new features you really need then it should be no harm in downgrading.
[00:40] <SherlawkDragon1> when I go to localhost with firefox, Apache gives me an Access Denied error.  Why might I get this problem?  Is there some access thing I need to set?
[00:40] <rww> yurimxpxman: What version of Ubuntu are you using, and is it 32-bit or 64-bit?
[00:40] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: That said, using tried and tested hardware is never a bad idea.
[00:41] <sagredo> so much power
[00:41] <sagredo> sheesh
[00:41] <yurimxpxman> rww: 32 bit hardy
[00:41] <sagredo> so
[00:41] <sagredo> how many of you switch between gentoo and ubuntu
[00:41] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: according to http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/page-236334_38_0.html other people have experienced issues with that nic in linux.
[00:41] <bazhang> !ot > sagredo
[00:41] <freazer> moonwatcher: how are the hard disk drivers configured? I thought even SATA150/300 drives could only seriously sustain 20~50 MB/sec ? getting a PCI-E card seems like it would be overkill, but I just might be completely wrong about the transfer speeds
[00:41] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: which hardware would be "tried and tested" ?
[00:41] <bazhang> sagredo, general chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:42] <csc_> where are translations files in the system for ubiquity?
[00:42] <rww> yurimxpxman: The latest version of gnome-do in the ~do-core PPA for Hardy is 0.6.1, which I don't think has docky. Intrepid and Jaunty have 0.8.0.
[00:42] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: I've never had any trouble with RealTek gb nics. Have got no experience with Intel nics.
[00:43] <yurimxpxman> rww: so I'm gonna have to build it myself, then?
[00:43] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: I guess looking at different products and comparing how many people complain would be a good indicator.
[00:43] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: i had bad expriece with realtek :)
[00:43] <moonwatcher> on occasions...
[00:43] <freazer> moonwatcher: I think I'm old ^^ PCI still feels cutting edge to me, but with a peak transfer of 133 MB/sec I'm sure it can saturate a gigabit ethernet capable router
[00:43] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: gigabit or the older nics?
[00:43] <junglist_> So I'm thinking about getting a new 1TB hard drive for my vanilla ubuntu 8.10 media server. Any suggestions? I know I should avoid the Seagate but what about another manufacturer?
[00:43] <moonwatcher> gigabit
[00:44] <tritium> junglist_: Western Digital Green (WD10EADS)
[00:44] <moonwatcher> that whole "gigabit card refusing to do gigabit" story is not a first for me
[00:44] <BlueEagle> moonwatcher: Well then I guess NICs just don't like you much. :p Anyways, that's all the advice I've got for you. :/
[00:44] <tritium> junglist_: it's the quietest and most power-efficient drive that silentpcreview.com has *ever* tested
[00:44] <moonwatcher> :)
[00:44] <_VIM_> junglist_: what's wrong with Seagate?
[00:44] <rww> yurimxpxman: That might work, but you'd also have to get a newer version of Mono, 'cause the one that ships with hardy is too old (hence the PPA not having do 0.8 for Hardy)
[00:44] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: ill try downgrading the kernel and see what happnes
[00:44] <tritium> _VIM_: firmware problems have been bricking their drives lately
[00:44] <moonwatcher> be back in a few
[00:45] <_VIM_> ah
[00:45] <SherlawkDragon1> when I go to localhost with firefox, Apache gives me an Access Denied error.  Why might I get this problem?  Is there some access thing I need to set?
[00:45] <junglist_> tritium: Thanks. I was kinda leaning that way and you sealed it. :)
[00:45] <tritium> junglist_: :)
[00:45] <BlueEagle> sherlawkdragon1: if you're running firefox and apache on the same physical machine you need to set apace to listen to localhost (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[00:45] <SherlawkDragon1> ah, ok
[00:45] <Flannel> SherlawkDragon1: Your files need to be readable by www-data
[00:46] <tritium> junglist_: I just put one in my mythtv box, and I absolutely love it.  It's wicket quiet.
[00:46] <BlueEagle> sherlawkdragon1: Wait, that should have given you a connection refused.
[00:46] <SherlawkDragon1> oh, ok
[00:46] <SherlawkDragon1> so
[00:46] <tritium> wicked, even
[00:46] <mr_linuxmen> can you hel me
[00:46] <BlueEagle> sherlawkdragon1: Are the files you're attempting to access readable by the user running apache?
[00:46] <Guest17688> hey guys i just installed ubuntu server and it appears that i have a little issue... i need to install from thumbdrive dsktp for this client
[00:46] <SherlawkDragon1> Flannel> how dso I do that?
[00:46] <Guest17688> how do i mount the thumb drive
[00:46] <Guest17688> ?
[00:46] <rww> yurimxpxman: Looks like you can get Mono 1.9.1 fromhttp://directhex.mfgames.com/hardy.html , which should be new enough.
[00:46] <SherlawkDragon1> I'm the user running apache, they are my files.
[00:46] <mr_linuxmen> i new use ubuntu
[00:46] <freazer> SherlawkDragon1: it sounds like you have an Apache2 configuration problem, most likely with the DocumentRoot - I think it has nothing to do with ubuntu ^^;
[00:47] <BlueEagle> sherlawkdragon1: No, apache is running as it's own user: `ps aux|grep apache`
[00:47] <SherlawkDragon1> AH, ok
[00:47] <SherlawkDragon1> I'll make them public then
[00:47] <BlueEagle> sherlawkdragon1: www-data is running my apache.
[00:47] <Flannel> SherlawkDragon1: chmod a+r file would work.
[00:47] <SherlawkDragon1> thanks
[00:48] <SherlawkDragon1> Flannel> that's what I
[00:48] <entropy8> Alright guys, anyone familiar with using wpa_supplicant in use with the aircrack suite?
[00:48] <SherlawkDragon1> 'm doing
[00:50] <UndertakerX2> is there a a c+ compiler already in ubuntu server or do i need to install one?
[00:50]  * matterazi fui :w
[00:50] <tritium> UndertakerX2: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[00:50] <SherlawkDragon1> It worked.
[00:50] <UndertakerX2> tritium: thanks
[00:50] <dirki> hey guys how do you mount a thumb drive
[00:50] <yurimxpxman> rww: thanks! Compiling mono would've been a pita
[00:51] <rww> UndertakerX2: install the build-essential package and then use g++
[00:51] <dirki> my system is asking for fs type
[00:51] <tritium> rww: as I told him above
[00:51] <zaapiel> is their a gui for changing my host name?
[00:51] <zaapiel> i know how to edit /etc/hosts
[00:51] <UndertakerX2> rww: g++ or c++?
[00:51] <freazer> andrew_: If you're still listening I highly recommend you apt-get reinstall build-essential -- possibly even uninstalling it via purge
[00:51] <zaapiel> i just dont want too
[00:51] <rww> tritium: you didn't mention the compiler name, and I was most of the way through typing anyway ;)
[00:51] <rww> UndertakerX2: g++
[00:51] <tritium> UndertakerX2: that will install more than just g++, many of the packages that are considered "essential" for development
[00:51] <dirki> how do you mount a thumbdrive with fs type named
[00:51] <UndertakerX2> tritium: thanks again
[00:51] <skeletal> guys, i'm installing a ubuntu... I need to now how many can I put for /SWAP ??????  i have 512RAM memory
[00:52] <UndertakerX2> rww: thanks to you to
[00:52] <tritium> UndertakerX2: sure
[00:52] <kazagistar> I installed Jaunty, and I noticed that "System -> Preferences -> Sound" has disappeared... how/where can I find it?
[00:52] <freazer> skeletal: do you mean how much space you should partition for swap?
[00:52] <rww> kazagistar: Jaunty support is in #ubuntu+1, not here. Thanks :)
[00:52] <tritium> skeletal: rule of thumb is about 2X your ram, or 2GB, whichever is less.
[00:52] <dirki> anyone
[00:52] <dirki> i running from ubuntu server...
[00:52] <kazagistar> rww: sorry, thank you!
[00:52] <rww> skeletal: somewhere between 512MB and 1GB.
[00:53] <freazer> dirki: is this a new thumb drive that's empty? or have you already used it on other computers?
[00:53] <zaapiel> gui for changing hostname?
[00:53] <zaapiel> anyone?
[00:53] <tritium> zaapiel: easier to type
  I have 512M of memory. Then how many for swap?
[00:53] <kazagistar> join #ubuntu+1
[00:53] <kazagistar> crud
[00:53] <kazagistar> sorry
[00:53] <freazer> zaapiel: I think I'm having the exact same problem as you
[00:53] <FloodBot1> kazagistar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:53] <zaapiel> humor me
[00:53] <skeletal> How many I need for swap?
[00:54] <tritium> skeletal: we told you above
[00:54] <rww> skeletal: as we've already said, between 1x and 2x your RAM. So in your case, 512MB to 1GB. If you want a number, not a range, go with 1GB.
[00:54] <UndertakerX2> tritium: i already ahd build esentials installed, but when i try to install vmware tools on ubuntu server i cant get past the part that says i need a c++ compiler installed
[00:54] <freazer> zaapiel: So when you go System -> Administration -> Networking (General Tab) you can normally change your computer name
[00:55] <tritium> UndertakerX2: please type "g++ --version", to verify you have it installed.
[00:55] <freazer> zaapiel: But I'm running a clean install of Ubuntu 8.10, installed recently off the live cd and I don't have that option in my Administration -> menu -- I only see Network Tools which is NOT the same
[00:55] <tritium> zaapiel: easier to use the "hostname" command
[00:55] <UndertakerX2> tritium: it says version 4.3.2 is isntalled
[00:55] <tritium> UndertakerX2: good
[00:56] <freazer> tritium: thank you! I did not know about that command! any idea why my System -> Administration menu is missing some major applets?
[00:56] <ivan_> hola
[00:57] <ivan_> algun espalol¿¿?
[00:57] <zaapiel> freazer: same here
[00:57] <zaapiel> i dont have it either
[00:57] <rww> freazer: Sys > Admin > Networking was removed in Intrepid (or maybe Hardy, I forget which). Nobody else with your version of Ubuntu has it either ;)
[00:57] <_VIM_> !es | IVBela
[00:57] <zaapiel> i install ubuntu from sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:57] <zaapiel> from kubuntu
[00:57] <zaapiel> no Network (General) tab either
[00:57] <_VIM_> oops sorry IVBela meant that for ivan_ :)
[00:58] <tritium> freazer: no, such as?
[00:58] <IVBela> ^^
[00:58] <freazer> rww: That makes me feel a lot better! https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/internet/C/networking-changecompname.html this page is a liar! can you or someone else edit this?
[00:58] <DB42> let's say i got a program "prog1" which needs 2 input lines via STDIN, how do i push them via a shell command ?
[00:59] <rww> freazer: I can't, but I'll file a bug on it. Thanks for pointing it out.
[00:59] <terr_> Great going with the HP netbok 1000MI  WOW
[00:59] <terr_> Do we have other very small form factor success stories like this?
[01:00] <tritium> terr_: Sylvania Meso G
[01:00] <terr_> Also - I do have a question.  I'm planning on sending a live CD overseas to a friend for her son adn will want to configure and install ubuntu for him.  What I will need is an "ET" call home to one of my servers and I do run static IP's.  What should I look for?
[01:00] <BrianLy> Disk Question: I've added a new physical SATA hard disk (/dev/sdb) to an ubuntu server (8.10). How do I partition/mount it? First hard disk (/dev/sda) was setup as "Guided with LVM" at install time.
[01:01] <freazer> Any clue why e2fsck -f finds new errors on an ext3 partition every time I run it? (it's wrapped inside an LVM and MDADM raid mirror, I've read weird things about the superblock not fitting at the bottom, but I don't really understand it?)
[01:01] <terr_> Another option is to ask if there is someone in this chennel or somone someone trusts who lives in Brissy and would be willing to do an install for a 13YO
[01:01] <_VIM_> ET? Lol you're showing your age terr_ ;)
[01:01] <rahduke> Can someone please help me out, I'm buggin out been having connection issues for weeks and can't seem to get help
[01:01] <rahduke> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1060511
[01:01] <Flannel> DB42: echo -e "asdf\nhjkl"
[01:01] <terr_> _VIM_: I'm still immature I'm sure
[01:01] <rahduke> i refer you to my thread on ubuntu forums
[01:01] <freazer> BrianLy: I highly recommend the System -> Administration -> Partition Editor -- if you don't have that option install the package gparted
[01:02] <terr_> _VIM_: nto yet having reached my best before date
[01:02] <BrianLy> freazer: Can I do that from the commandline? No X or Gnome on this server
[01:03] <terr_> tritium: I'm looking for something tiny that can serve as a web server and is real cheap.
[01:03] <MIrrorIMage> Hi, how can I register my nickname with Xchat or NIckServ?
[01:03] <tritium> !register
[01:03] <DB42> Flannel: thanks
[01:04] <rahduke> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1060511 --- Come onnnn someone take a look, im dyin over here
[01:04] <rww> !repeat | rahduke
[01:04] <freazer> BrianLy: the commandline equivalent is parted and will satisfy all your partition needs ^^ when you're done edit your /etc/fstab to add the new mount point by device
[01:04] <terr_> rahduke: what's your question?
[01:04] <rahduke> terr_: if you can please take a look at my thread
[01:05] <BrianLy> freazer: thx I'll try that
[01:05] <Safe> Well that was wierd. I inserted the IP as it should be, restarted the computer and know the netmask always resets to 25.
[01:05] <rww> freazer: Looks like "System → Administration → Network" slipped into a couple of other places in 8.10's documentation. I added the URL you posted to an existing bug report, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-doc/+bug/314680
[01:05] <terr_> ok - new angle - what is the smallest cheapest hardware for a webserver... hopefully very low power draw
[01:05] <rahduke> terr_: I'm having connection issues for some reason, loses wired ethernet connection all the time for no particular reason
[01:05] <terr_> rahduke: can you ping?
[01:05] <jero_> With the standard Ubuntu install on this nc8000 laptop with a pentium m and ati 9600, i get 3d acceleration to work properly in openarena for example, but suspend & compiz doesnt work. Installing the proprietary drivers, 3d acceleration works & compiz works & suspend works, but loging out does not work(screen goes blank and system becomes unresponsive).
[01:06] <rahduke> terr_: sure
[01:06] <unixdawg> ok having issues with a few apps
[01:06] <Safe> How do I go about doing it manually?
[01:06] <freazer> rww: I really appreciate it ^^ excellent work
[01:06] <Chaorain> I am useing "Ubuntu ultamite editon" and I can't mount data cds/movie dvds or even detect my usb flash drive. I can read and play Audio cds. help?
[01:06] <jdsandeson> Terr a dell latitude laptop 9.6 wats
[01:06] <unixdawg> I have installed zoiper and xten softphone
[01:06] <jero_> enable "no_dri" "yes" will allow my system to logout properly, but then i lose 3d acceleration and suspend again
[01:06] <terr_> rahduke: when you have no connection can you ping?  I'm wondering if part is going down and not all
[01:06] <rahduke> terr_: no i cannot
[01:06] <unixdawg> and I get audio but they are not picking up the usb headset mic
[01:06] <terr_> rahduke: how about if they are side by side
[01:06] <tritium> Chaorain: doesn't ubuntu ultimate edition have their own support channel?
[01:07] <MIrrorIMage> ubottu: I am new to Linux. How do I access the "IRC" software?
[01:07] <Flannel> Chaorain: Ubuntu Ultimtae Edition isn't supported here.  They ... change a lot of things that can break some stuff, etc.  We recommend you install real Ubuntu, and go with that.
[01:07] <rahduke> terr_: I'm not sure wat you mean
[01:07] <Chaorain> tritium, do they?
[01:07] <rww> MIrrorIMage: You're using IRC right now.
[01:07] <freazer> Flannel: Chaorain is using ultamite not Ultimtae
[01:07] <tritium> Chaorain: I don't know.  We don't support it here.
[01:07] <MIrrorIMage> rww: doh!
[01:07] <terr_> rahduke: well - you want to confirm at least the ground station is functioning properly... like put two computers side by side beside the grpound station and see if they both display the same pattern
[01:08] <terr_> rahduke: it looks like an intermittant and its hard to fix something that works
[01:08] <Chaorain> freazer, Oops typo
[01:08] <rahduke> terr_: this isnt a wireless issues, this is happening to a wired computer
[01:08] <MIrrorIMage> rww: so where do I enter the command line to register my nickname?
[01:08] <rahduke> directly to router
[01:08] <terr_> rahduke: what does ifconfig say ?
[01:09] <terr_> rahduke: both when up and when down?
[01:09] <rww> MIrrorIMage: You can just type it in the same place you're typing messages. If nick registration, type "/join #freenode" (without the quotes) and press Enter. That'll join you to the server help channel.
[01:09] <freazer> terr_: you didn't read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1060511 - he posts his ifconfig
[01:09] <rahduke> terr_: http://pastebin.com/m381540f2
[01:09] <jero_> how is it possible that loging in with gdm is not an issue, including i get full 3d acceleration with compiz working once in, yet logging back to gdm fails with a black screen?
[01:09] <rahduke> wooops
[01:09] <rahduke> terr_: http://pastebin.com/m1d155903 sorry bout that
[01:10] <rahduke> terr_: haven't tried ifconfig when down
[01:10] <terr_> rahduke: try when down too
[01:11] <Brando753> hey how do you connect to a remote computer?
[01:11] <jero_> otherwise asked, what exactly changes when i try to get into gdm _after_ the login, and how can i recover it to a state similar to login in where gdm works properly?
[01:11] <Davedan1> I'm trying to install virtualbox on ubuntu 8.10
[01:11] <Davedan1> what is the difference between virtualbox-ose and vboxgtk
[01:11] <jero_> davedan - it works, but 8.04 is faster in vbox
[01:12] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all. I installed 8.10 on my Aspire One and it kicked BUTT, until I hooked up another monitor, then I lost my 3D (and Compiz as a result) . how can I hit xorg up for the old settings? (I'm good with cli so that's best if it helps).
[01:12] <rahduke> terr_:  anytips till then? i found replacement drivers for LAN but dont have a clue how to install them
[01:12] <Davedan1> jero_: I don't care about speed. just want to run xp in ubuntu for some tests
[01:12] <terr_> rahduke: do you have any other machines on that lan?
[01:12] <Davedan1> jero_: do I need the ose package?
[01:12] <bigbucks> hi
[01:12] <rww> Davedan1: the user interface that comes with Virtualbox is written using KDE's graphics libraries. vboxgtk is a replacement UI written using GNOME's libraries. Just get virtualbox-ose :)
[01:13] <Chaorain> Is there a way to list irc channels?
[01:13] <rahduke> terr_: not besides an xbox
[01:13] <majnoon> /list
[01:13] <Chaorain> ty
[01:13] <rahduke> others are wireless and work flawlessly
[01:13] <jero_> davedan - oops  i misread, i thought vbox as a guest in windows. thats what i do
[01:13] <bigbucks> Has anyone here ever used Virtual PC with Ubuntu on Vista Home Premium?
[01:13] <Davedan1>  rww: ok. I'm overwhlmed when there are too many options :)
[01:14] <bigbucks> I guess noone
[01:14] <terr_> rahduke: You should get another machine.  Do you have any old critter you can press into service?  I have several in my garage which are givaways.  I'm in Calgary
[01:14] <NineTeen67Comet> to re-do xorg's settings is it xorg-config or something like that? What does it run when you initially install Ubuntu?
[01:14] <jero_> bigbucks - no but i use virtualbox in windows7 32bit as a host with 8.04 ubuntu as a guest. works very nice on fast duo2core cpus
[01:14] <terr_> rahduke: your ifconfig looks normal
[01:14] <rww> bigbucks: Ubuntu isn't supported on Virtual PC, and is apparently a pain to get working. You could use VirtualBox instead; it's free software, and better than VPC.
[01:14] <rahduke> terr_: I've tried several NIC cards, but i've canabalized all my old machines over the yrs
[01:15] <terr_> rahduke: call a friend.  I think you will need another machine.  At this point you don't know if the issue is downstream or upstream of the router
[01:15] <rww> bigbucks: although Wikipedia says that, for VPC, "Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) must be installed in SafeMode, but does not require any other changes."
[01:15] <miller_> rahduke, you have access to your router, like administration?
[01:15] <rahduke> miller_: yes
[01:15] <terr_> rahduke: it could be your upstream is breaking the connections
[01:15] <rahduke> miller_: I've replaced this router 2 times
[01:16] <Baatti> hey guys, I'm really frustrated here...
[01:16] <Unguided> hello does anyone know if u can watch a dvd while using the mythbuntu live dvd and 2 dvd drives
[01:16] <jero_> there is just two important things with vbox after you install ubuntu as a guest on it. asap install the guest additions to get a smooth mouse pointer and automatically adjusting resolutions, and learn to mount -t vboxsf <myshare> /media/<mount_directory>
[01:16] <miller_> rahduke, are you sure you're not doubling up on the same ip address with different devices?  <IP_ADDRESS> sounds like a static address
[01:16] <bigbucks> So, dont use Virtual PC?
[01:16] <rahduke> terr_: the problem is so sporatic Its very difficult to replicate, it will work fine for 2 or 3 days then loses connections 5x or more in 1 day
[01:16] <owner_> how to solve the graphical glitches using nvidia 177?
[01:17] <terr_> rahduke: when its working do a traceroute to the server in question and when down try traceroute again... and here is where another machine would really help isolate things.
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> Baatti: well, if you don't state the prob, we can't help
[01:17] <Baatti> I just finished installing Diablo 2 using wine... its supposed to work... anyway, I have to use the 'Play Disc' in order to play it, but it won't recognize my 'CD-ROM'
[01:17] <rww> bigbucks: I'd strongly recommend downloading Virtualbox and using it instead, since it's free and better than VPC. Using VPC should be possible, but may be more difficult.
[01:17] <terr_> rahduke:  that sounds to me like an upstream issue.
[01:17] <jero_> bigbucks - read what i said and try virtualbox. its tremendously good. the mount directory will be where you transfer files between host and guest
[01:17] <sachael> does anyone know of a nice little program that is a todo list with focus on software development?
[01:17] <rahduke> terr_: how to traceroute?
[01:17] <wexell32> hey I need a little help here plz. firewall what's better gufw vs firestarter plz ... i'm a noob
[01:17] <bigbucks> does it work the same as Virtual PC?
[01:17] <MoTec> bigbucks: just got here, what's the problem with virtual pc?
[01:17] <rahduke> miller_: dumb question how do i tell what my own IP is?
[01:17] <MoTec> can't boot?
[01:18] <rww> wexell32: gufw. firestarter is a little buggy on newer versions of Ubuntu.
[01:18] <Baatti> wexell32 gufw isn't a firewall, its just a GUI to help you set up your firewall (firestarter)
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> Baatti: that might be a question better suited for #winehq
[01:18] <b3z3rk3r> rahduke, type into google: what is my ip
[01:18] <terr_> rahduke: I've had issues like this before when trying to bootleg data out of Trinidad.... no way FTP would handle it.  FTP is suppose to mind you but it was not robust enough
[01:18] <rww> Baatti: gufw is a frontend for ufw, not firestarter.
[01:18] <nex2nutin> evening all
[01:18] <NineTeen67Comet> rahduke: ifconfig
[01:18] <bigbucks> Does it work on Vista Home Premium
[01:18] <jero_> bigbuck - it works as a computer in a computer. you just install your OS from a CD iso you download. not sure how vpc works
[01:18] <Baatti> hrm, my bad
[01:18] <terr_> rahduke: yet small files were no issue at all.
[01:18] <rahduke> b3z3rk3r: my IP behind my router
[01:18] <Baatti> IndyGunFreak, thanks
[01:18] <jero_> bigbucks - yes it works in all windows as host
[01:18] <wexell32> rww thank tou!
[01:18] <wexell32> you*
[01:19] <rww> wexell32: you're welcome :)
[01:19] <rahduke> terr_: its weird cuz its not just streaming vid, its gone out today 3 times just browsing and chatting
[01:19] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: ok, i am changing my version, switch and NIC report 1Gb (had a nother look at the board manual and i was lookign at the wrong inoput on the switch)
[01:19] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: i think i am smarter now though
[01:19] <b3z3rk3r> rahduke, oh.. haha. sry. umm, for that you will need to use the terminal.. something like ifconfig
[01:19] <terr_> rahduke: it could be your modem is losing its connection - likely in fact.
[01:19] <jero> With the standard Ubuntu install on this nc8000 laptop with a pentium m and ati 9600, i get 3d acceleration to work properly in openarena for example, but suspend & compiz doesnt work. Installing the proprietary drivers, 3d acceleration works & compiz works & suspend works, but loging out does not work(screen goes blank and system becomes unresponsive).
[01:19] <bigbucks> Well, on a video on youtube, comments said they tried it and had to rewhatever their computer
[01:19] <rahduke> b3z3rk3r: thanks
[01:19] <NineTeen67Comet> bigbucks: I've ran XP, Vista and Windows 7 in VirtualBox (not the OSE version though) and they work "acceptably" .. http://www.openlug.com/?p=214
[01:19] <terr_> rahduke: I presume you are DSL?
[01:20] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: i tried linux-server 2.6.27-7, 2.6.27-9 and 2.6.27-11, and all give me the same 2-3 MB/s
[01:20] <rahduke> terr_: yes i've replaced it twice its a router/modem combo from verizon FIOS, im switching back to cablevision in 2 wks we we'll see if that helps
[01:20] <MoTec> i use virtual pc on a pretty beefy windows server to host a few different os's at once
[01:20] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: now i am trying linux-genric
[01:20] <MoTec> my whole testing network, hehe.
[01:20] <rahduke> terr_: its not DSL tho its "fiber"
[01:20] <owner_> how do I remove graphics glitches on bootup?
[01:20] <terr_> rahduke: how to you fix it when it happens?
[01:20] <rahduke> terr_: it just comes back
[01:20] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: are you still here?
[01:20] <nex2nutin> can anyone help figure out why i can't get my external drive to read when i plug it in?
[01:20] <terr_> rahduke: lucky bagguer.  NEXT
[01:20]  * moonwatcher wonders if he is talkign to himself
[01:20] <terr_> <--- jealous
[01:21] <rahduke> terr_: it just resets,
[01:21] <bigbucks> would I still have to partion?
[01:21] <owner_> anyone know how to solve graphical artifacts or am I just stuck with them
[01:21] <rahduke> terr_: FiOS isnt wat its cracked up to be, max 3mb down 2 mb up in realwords
[01:21] <rahduke> world
[01:21] <rww> bigbucks: with Virtualbox? no
[01:21] <bigbucks> ok
[01:21] <terr_> rahduke: ok - then the modem can be losing its training to the Dslam adn when same happens it times out and resets adn by then other things have timed out and reset
[01:21] <bigbucks> thats what I wanted
[01:22] <terr_> rahduke: if so this might be happening randomly all the time and you only see it during heavy traffic or long transmissions
[01:22] <rahduke> terr_: Verizon admits no fault despite my arguments with them
[01:22] <rahduke> terr_: just keeps sending me new routers
[01:22] <terr_> rahduke: they will lie.  Standard practice
[01:23] <terr_> rahduke: sure - send a bandaid and hope for the best
[01:23] <rahduke> terr_: i guess I'll deal with it till feb 25th when i switch to cablevsion and get my new linksysrouter adn run WWRT
[01:23] <MoTec> bigbucks if you can't boot ubuntu, use the -i8042.noloop
[01:23] <e1kP9tsfA> is it hard to install ubuntu on Virtualbox?
[01:24] <terr_> I'm still looking for suggestions on a small low power box for a web server
[01:24] <rahduke> e1kP9tsfA: not at all
[01:24] <bigbucks> lol
[01:24] <jero> elk - nope, its easier than install it normaly
[01:24] <MoTec> terr_ fit-pc v1.0 highly discounted currenty
[01:24] <terr_> rahduke: if you had another machine you could confirm the modem - uplink is the issue
[01:24] <MoTec> terr_ under 5w power.. .you'll not find lower :)
[01:24] <terr_> MoTec: not bad
[01:24] <cricri> trying to install ubuntu and install cant find the iso image
[01:24] <terr_> MoTec: used equipment is fine too.
[01:24] <rahduke> terr_: I think i'm guna try that I can probably hobble something together, another option is to boot into windows for a while
[01:24] <bigbucks> IDK why I even wanna try to dual boot on a celeron with Vista
[01:25] <MoTec> it'd have to be pretty light duty.. i use 'em for firewalls
[01:25] <jero> bigbucks - use 8.04 for virtualbox. it is supported till 2011 and runs faster
[01:25] <MoTec> but they are currently functioning as routers for over 75 concurrent clients.
[01:25] <cricri> how can i point to it, by default it look in /dev/sdaX and sdbX my iso is on usb
[01:25] <terr_> MoTit is light duty... even a 486 will fill any uplink I can afford
[01:25] <bigbucks> I am installing virtualbox
[01:26] <MoTec> terr_: then definately give the fit-pc 1.0 a look.  fit-pc.com
[01:26] <bigbucks> I finally got my XBox today too =)
[01:26] <MoTec> they just dropped the price from $295 to $295 so I bought several :)
[01:26] <johninlex> hello all
[01:26] <rahduke> bigbucks: 360 or original
[01:26] <bigbucks> 360
[01:26] <jero> motec - nice pricedrop there
[01:26] <bigbucks> $300 at GameStop
[01:26] <vinicius> eu
[01:26] <MoTec> jero: not insignificant, for sure.
[01:27] <terr_> MoTec: that isn't much of a percentage decline
[01:27] <bigbucks> and I got COD4 as well as Midnight Club LA
[01:27] <rahduke> terr_: thanks for your help, im gunna boot to windows and put together a box to try out your option
[01:27] <MoTec> oh, whoops
[01:27] <MoTec> $195 from $295
[01:27] <MoTec> sorry :)
[01:27] <bigbucks> I got teh 60 gig
[01:27] <terr_> MoTec: ya sure - you were being a clown I think
[01:27] <MoTec> no, just intoxicated :)
[01:27] <johninlex> can you install on a drive while running ubuntu ie I want to install Puppy on an extra drive and then put that drive in other computer that is having problems
[01:27] <rahduke> bigbucks: im playin afro samurai right now its actualy pretty decent
[01:28] <terr_> rahduke: ask around - you should always have a trouble shooting machine available... set one up with friends
[01:28] <rahduke> bigbucks: you should def mod the system tho
[01:28] <bigbucks> an Virtualbox and Ubuntu running crash my computer?
[01:28] <bigbucks> def bod?
[01:28] <bigbucks> mod
[01:28] <rahduke> bigbucks: mod
[01:28] <rahduke> bigbucks: play games for free!
[01:29] <cricri> the ubuntu install cannot locate the iso file which is in root of my usb device i try to install from
[01:29] <rww> !ot | rahduke, bigbucks
[01:29] <Brando753> hey how do u install a .bin file?
[01:29] <tritium> rahduke: please don't discuss that here
[01:29] <sloof3> I installed gparted but it's having some unknown problem formatting the xfs partition.  What course of action do I have?
[01:29] <sloof3> http://pastebin.com/m1f804605
[01:29] <rahduke> Brando753: .sh biname.bin
[01:29] <terr_> MoTec: have a peak at the HP netbook 1000MI  ($387 starting price I hear)
[01:29] <bigbucks> WTF
[01:30] <Brando753> rahduke in a terminal right?
[01:30] <_VIM_> !ohmy | bigbucks
[01:30] <MoTec> terr_: i love my dell mini 9 :)
[01:30] <terr_> MoTec: that little fit-PC sure looks interesting.  I wonder about a solid state HDD?
[01:30] <rahduke> Brando753: yes navigate to the folder with the .bin
[01:30] <rahduke> and do the command i wrote
[01:30] <cricri> i cant get through the install of ubuntu 8.10
[01:30] <MoTec> terr_: yeah, it'll support a ssd or a compact flash via adapter
[01:30] <bigbucks> I got a massive deep papaer cut, without totching papet
[01:30] <MoTec> needs to be ide, tho.
[01:30] <Luxmux> HI all.. is there a jabber-client for terminal-use?!?
[01:30] <marge> I've switched from regular ubnutn 8.04 to kubuntu-desktop and works ok, but kdm does not start by itself.  What config file do I edit to have kdm start on boot up?
[01:31] <Flannel> bigbucks: #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support related issues, thanks.
[01:31] <terr_> MoTec: I want something relaiable of course - I expect these are... also how many NICS if I want to use as a firewall?
[01:31] <Flannel> Luxmux: centerim
[01:31] <MoTec> terr_: i've been using a couple as routers/firewalls for a couple years
[01:31] <IndyGunFreak> MoTec: i'm just not a huge fan of SSD yet.. i think its a great idea, and eventually, it will be awesome.. just hasn't quite convinced me yet.... iv'e got an AAO w/ a 160gig Sata drive, and i love it
[01:31] <MoTec> terr_: I use pfsense on them.. it's insanely great :)
[01:31] <Flannel> Luxmux: Theres also finch (based on libpurple) and some people like bitlbee, but thats just a [protocol] <-> IRC gateway
[01:31] <marge> How can I have kdm start automatically during bootup?
[01:31] <terr_> MoTec: not bad - the webservers I currently ahve are very reliable... and they help heat my house so I can save on my gas bill
[01:31] <MoTec> IndyGunFreak: yeah, i use a standard drive on mine.. but my mini 9 has a small ssd
[01:31] <marge> Anyone know?
[01:31] <Luxmux> Flannel, thx
[01:31] <Brando753> PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[01:32] <marge> What could be amis here?
[01:32] <rww> marge: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm", I think
[01:32] <terr_> MoTec: I'm going to cehck out OpenBSD for the firewalling
[01:32] <cricri> friend
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> MoTec: great idea, and i think eventually, its gonna be the way things are.. but i don't the the technology is quite there yet
[01:32] <MoTec> terr_: that's what pfsense is based on... check it out for sure.
[01:32] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> Question: Ubuntu Desktop ATI 9600 Mobility driver for games such as world of warcraft?
[01:32] <Brando753> help i got "PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected"
[01:32] <bigbucks> Answer: IDK
[01:33] <MoTec> it's web gui is awesome.. and it is very powerfull
[01:33] <Flannel> Brando753: What command were you running?
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> MoTec: plus, i got it for $300 on fleabay, it was about a month old.. so that makes it even better.. ;)
[01:33] <jero> 2xtreme works perfectly fine, except some issues with logging out into gdm here.
[01:33] <Brando753> sudo sh PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin
[01:33] <marge>  rww: Thanks I will reboot and see if it takes effect.
[01:33] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> jero, do you use the fglrx?
[01:33] <nex2nutin> can anyone tell me how to mount an iso so i can run the programs?
[01:33] <Cpudan80> hello all
[01:34] <Flannel> Brando753: You don't usually use sh to run a bin file, just +x it and ./whatever.bin
[01:34] <Cpudan80> I enabled compiz -- but now full screen VLC sucks (frame rate bad) any ideas?
[01:34] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> Jero, or just the standard driver
[01:34] <jero> 2Xtreme - yep, look here ->
[01:34] <jero> With the standard Ubuntu install on this nc8000 laptop with a pentium m and ati 9600, i get 3d acceleration to work properly in openarena for example, but suspend & compiz doesnt work. Installing the proprietary drivers, 3d acceleration works & compiz works & suspend works, but loging out does not work(screen goes blank and system becomes unresponsive).
[01:34] <nex2nutin> hi cpudan
[01:34] <Safe> If i have installed within windows, and i uninstall, will it replace the original master boot record?
[01:34] <bigbucks> VirtualBox does not wanna install
[01:34] <MoTec> bigbucks: what problem did you have with virtual pc?
[01:34] <bigbucks> none
[01:34] <jero> 2Xtreme - 8.04 requires you just one click to enable the proprietary driver to get full fglrx 3d acceleration.
[01:35] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> jero, lol great to get compiz working I install the fglrx driver, i have 8.10
[01:35] <sachael> I'm looking for a program that is a todo list with focus on software development?
[01:35] <Brando753> so what should i enter if my bin file is PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin
[01:35] <jrib> bigbucks: it's impossible for us to help you if you aren't specific and don't provide details
[01:35] <terr_> http://cgi.ebay.com/Keep-Fit-PC-USB-Non-Slip-Dance-Pad-Mat-+-Song-Game_W0QQitemZ180323984954QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090128?IMSfp=TL090128173005r17502
[01:35] <terr_> what sort of crap is that?
[01:35] <bigbucks> I say something on youtube, and someone said they tried it and it crashed their PC
[01:35] <Flannel> terr_: Please, take offtopic (non-support) related discussions elsewhere.  Such as #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:35] <failers> i got "card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]" and no sound running 9.04 kubuntu but should be same prob in ubuntu so asking here also
[01:35] <bigbucks> they had to re-whatever
[01:35] <MoTec> bigbucks: i've been running it for a long time... i'm on it now :)
[01:35] <jrib> Brando753: chmod +x FILE   followed by ./FILE
[01:35] <jero> 2Xtreme good luck with 8.10. never worked for me
[01:35] <bigbucks> what systam?
[01:35] <Brando753> ?
[01:36] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> jero, i was hoping for something different lol
[01:36] <MoTec> bigbucks: the only problem i had is booting it in the first place... had to add 8042.noloop switch
[01:36] <Brando753> Jrib format ti with this bin PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin
[01:36] <jrib> Brando753: are you kidding?
[01:36] <Brando753> i didnt get how i was suposed to format that
[01:36] <jrib> Brando753: everywhere you see FILE, write the name of your file instead
[01:36] <MoTec> bigbucks: an intel mini-itx board..
[01:36] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> jero, the fglrx driver works but really really bad fps, it doesn't want to speed up any either. when i know it should run better atleast it does on an winxp system
[01:37] <bigbucks> I mean OS
[01:37] <MoTec> bigbucks: celeron 215
[01:37] <jrib> !away > rj_x|away
[01:37] <jero> 2Xtreme - then it is not working. the fglrx driver if working gives the best fps
[01:37] <binarymutant> anyone know a way to get xrandr to rotate a screen automatically?
[01:38] <jero> 2Xtreme - if you enter glxgears into the terminal you should get around 3000fps
[01:38] <amer> hi guys
[01:38] <jero> then you know it is working
[01:38] <MoTec> it's a bare install of ubuntu server.. i only gave it 256mb of ram because i'm stingy.
[01:38] <amer> how save is to run win in ubutnu
[01:38] <e1kP9tsfA> ok...
[01:39] <bigbucks> when I turned virtualnox on, i lost connection
[01:39] <MoTec> it resets your network cards
[01:39] <MoTec> that's why i use virtual pc.. it messes with windows hosts the least, heh.
[01:41] <jero> 2Xtreme - i suggest downloading openarena for testing if your 3d acceleration is working properly. Not only it is a great free game, but it also is a good way to check for 3d acceleration if it really is enabled
[01:41] <terr_> http://cgi.ebay.com/INTEL-ATOM-DUAL-CORE-MINI-PC-IMAC-OSX-86-HACKINTOSH_W0QQitemZ270323719644QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDesktop_PCs?hash=item270323719644&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1309%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
[01:42] <sloof3> I installed gparted but it's having some unknown problem formatting the xfs partition.
[01:42] <sloof3> http://pastebin.com/m1f804605
[01:42] <terr_> what is a "HACKINTOSH" and will ubuntu run on it?
[01:43] <_VIM_> That's way offtopic
[01:43] <Flannel> terr_: Ubuntu will, yes.
[01:43] <bigbucks> ok
[01:43] <bigbucks> so to start a new comp I push new?
[01:43] <jero> terr_ it is osX hacked to run on a normal pc, and yes, ubuntu will run in a virtualbox on it
[01:43] <terr_> Flannel: what do they mean by "hackintosh"?
[01:43] <bigbucks> isnt Linus = Ubuntu?
[01:44] <binarymutant> bigbucks, no
[01:44] <terr_> jero: now that is interesting... a virtual box... what supports this.
[01:44] <tritium> bigbucks: no, Linus is the man that created Linux
[01:44] <terr_> jero: I have not been following virtual... however I did buy vmware a while back
[01:44] <bigbucks> it was a typo
[01:45] <jero> terr_ yo dawg, its a pc in a pc, so you can use your pc while you use your pc
[01:45] <MoTec> terr_: you can run virtual box on many os's including windows and ubuntu
[01:45] <terr_> jero: I know what it is - I was running NT under Linux.
[01:45] <MoTec> virtualbox is just sun's cool name, heh
[01:45] <terr_> I'm wondering what the state of the technolgy is now.  My VMWARE is quite old
[01:45] <MoTec> well, they bought it
[01:45] <jero> terr_ check out www.virtualbox.org and test it. its really fun stuff, and is free
[01:45] <terr_> how are they doing it?
[01:46] <terr_> jero many thanx!
[01:46] <bigbucks> Hey
[01:46] <jero> terr_ - vmware is nice too, but i prefer vbox
[01:46] <MoTec> it's similar to vmware
[01:46] <prometheus77> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1055610 can someone help ? i am nick
[01:46] <tritium> !kvm | terr_
[01:46] <bigbucks> How do I put Ubuntu on it WITHOUT a cd?
[01:46] <MoTec> i prefer virtual pc, as long as you have to have a windows host :)
[01:46] <MoTec> bigbucks: use an iso file
[01:46] <gsker> virtualbox is in ubuntu's packages btw. aptitude install vritualbox
[01:46] <binarymutant> bigbucks, pxe or net install
[01:46] <terr_> tritium: is this part of KDE?
[01:47] <tritium> terr_: no.
[01:47] <_VIM_> gsker: i think it's virtualbox-ose
[01:47] <tritium> _VIM_: correct
[01:47] <MoTec> bigbucks: if you're talking about making virtualbox boot ubuntu without a real cd you can tell it to use the ubuntu .iso as a virtual cd in the virtual machine
[01:47] <terr_> tritium: I'm currently on Debian and its old.  I'm going to build a new install shortly and I'm going to use Ubuntu - virtual is something I'm very interested in.
[01:47] <jero> Motec being bound to one host is exactly what you dont want with such virtual machines. One of the major strengths of this is to be able and carry your guest OS over to any other pc/OS
[01:47] <KoolD> hey all,....should't there be a manpage for fread/fwrite.... how do i download them
[01:48] <tritium> terr_: in order to use KVM, your hardware needs to support virtualization.  That URL tells you how to determine whether or not your hardware does.
[01:48] <adubz> does anyone here use xmms
[01:48] <adubz> the playlist editor will not minimize with the main window
[01:48] <gsker> my point was that sending people to the origin site makes them think that they have to insall from there. A linux newbie friend got into a little pickle recently in that regard with openoffice (virtualbox is a virtual package -- virtualbox-ose is one of the package in it)
[01:48] <terr_> tritium: this is starting to look like we are moving from the stone ages.
[01:48] <MoTec> jero: well true.. but with virtual pc you can run on any windows machine, basically, because virtual server machine files work on virtual pc installs
[01:48] <tritium> adubz: not for years
[01:48] <cricri> in the 'ubuntu installer main menu' i dont know what to choose to point to the iso image with the installer components
[01:49] <tritium> terr_: ?
[01:49] <terr_> vmware worked but I sure didn't like it from an admin standpoint.
[01:49] <terr_> tritium: IBM did it right a long time ago.
[01:49] <entropy8> Would anyone be able to help me with a wpa_supplicant error?
[01:49] <MoTec> jero: was mostly just saying.. if my virtual machine host is a windows machine i use virtual pc.. if not, i use virtualbox on ubuntu server :)
[01:49] <cricri> i have never seen those options, i have not installed ubuntu for 3 yrs
[01:50] <chalcedony> if i want to backup my system to upgrade it, how can i find the paths?
[01:50] <WebcamWonder> chalcedony: echo $PATH, from a terminal
[01:51] <jero> which script is being called by gdm when i log out?
[01:51] <terr_> Now this looks very interesting... I wonder if this can work with multiseat X?
[01:51] <chalcedony> WebcamWonder:  ~$  echo $PATH
[01:51] <chalcedony> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[01:51] <chalcedony> ~$
[01:51] <gsker> btw vmware files work on virtualbox too.
[01:52] <WebcamWonder> chalcedony: Yup, that is the PATH environment variable
[01:52] <MoTec> really? that's sweet
[01:52] <cricri> the installer ask for an iso image which i have but i dont know how to point to it
[01:52] <jero> gsker - hm, good to know
[01:52] <terr_> gsker: I'm trying to remember the name of hte UK virtualization - I think it was headed in Cambridge
[01:52] <gsker> doesn't ring a bell for me.
[01:52] <WebcamWonder> chalcedony: Wait, were you asking for the path environment variable, or what paths to tar for the backup?
[01:52] <cricri> it looks on the hard drive for an image but my image is on a usb memory stick\
[01:53] <chalcedony> WebcamWonder: i feel dumb.. what do i need?
[01:53] <WebcamWonder> !backup | chalcedony
[01:53] <terr_> what I would _like_ is to be able to build a virtual machine that basically runs in a microkernel and test it and if I like it then move everyting into it and retire the old virtual image
[01:53] <gsker> chalcedony: alt-ctrl-f1 (or f2 or something) and see if you can mount the usb stick.
[01:53] <cricri> should i nspecify it in the boot options
[01:54] <nellmathew> is  there a command to check if i have 3d acceleration enabled?
[01:54] <gsker> nellmathew: glxinfo | grep direct
[01:54] <chalcedony> gsker: my stuff won't all fit on a usb stick.. it will have to go to another system on the lan
[01:54] <cricri> my boot was: '/vmlinuz initrd=/initrd.gz all_generic_ide'
[01:54] <nellmathew> thanks gsker
[01:54] <gsker> oops. Wrong person -- that was for cricri
[01:54] <failers> anyone got good knowledge of kubuntu/ubuntu and can help me with my sound card / sound issue please read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6696415
[01:55] <WebcamWonder> failers: #ubuntu+1 for 9.04
[01:55]  * gsker upgrades ubuntu from 7.10 to 8.10 on a sony vaio picture book with 110meg of memory.
[01:55] <chalcedony> !sbackup
[01:55] <Safe> If you mess up your MBR, is there a way to make grub list XP?
[01:56] <kshadow> What is the name of the latest gtk+ package?
[01:56] <kshadow> (So I can apt-get it)
[01:56] <RulerOf> Anyone know if it's possible for the "filename" option in dhcpd to have any type of dynamic data in it?  Specifically the dhcp client's mac address?
[01:56] <WebcamWonder> !find gtk
[01:56] <terr_> question regarding a virtual machine:  Now I kinda doubt this is possible.  Set up a host OS and install a guest.  At some point tell the guest to become the host and the host to become the guest.  These _could_ be peer os's and would need to cooperate in transfering control of the hardware... means we need to have two VM aware kernels  Of course on a given kernel we _should_ be able to xfer the desktop managers and if so then run more t
[01:57] <terr_> if we can do this then we can upgrade from version to version w/o a reboot
[01:57] <WebcamWonder> kshadow: Any specific reason why you don't want ubuntu-desktop?
[01:57] <adubz> does anyone here use xmms
[01:57] <terr_> I know IBM can do this on their mainframes
[01:58] <adubz> im trying to figure out why the playlist editor will not shrink with the main window when i minimize
[01:58] <kshadow> WebcamWonder: I want to install the latest version of pidgin, so I need the latest gtk.
[01:58] <WebcamWonder> kshadow: Are you getting a deb from somewhere or compiling?
[01:58] <jero> terr_ - maybe XEN will be able to do this some day, if the big players don't infiltrate it
[01:58] <kshadow> Compiling.
[01:58] <WebcamWonder> kshadow: Then you need the dev headers, not the gtk packages :)
[01:59] <terr_> jero: that's the system I was looking for - forgot the name.
[01:59] <WebcamWonder> !info libgtk-dev
[01:59] <terr_> jero: with a micro kernel it should be possible as well
[01:59] <jero> terr_ you need a cpu with VT - XEN is just a thin layer between your hardware and your virtual OS. So yes, in theory it is possible to get this done, and i think it was already done. Then again i am a tinfoiler
[01:59] <kshadow> Would itbe libgtk+2.0-dev?
[01:59] <unixdawg> ok having a issue
[02:00] <unixdawg> need input
[02:00] <terr_> jero?  tinfoiler?
[02:00] <WebcamWonder> kshadow: Umm, just do a, sudo apt-get build-dep pidgin, that should grab all the ~15 libraries required by pidgin
[02:00] <unixdawg> I have 2 headsets 1 that plugs in to the standard autio jacks and one that is usb
[02:00] <kshadow> WebcamWonder: Perfect, thanks.
[02:00] <jero> terr_ cospirancy theoriest, tinfoil hat, etc.
[02:00] <terr_> jero on my webservers virtual sounds very interesting
[02:00] <kshadow> WebcamWonder: Maybe you can help me with another question.
[02:00] <unixdawg> I can hear audio on both when they are enabled
[02:00] <WebcamWonder> kshadow: Sure
[02:00] <terr_> jero ty!
[02:01] <kshadow> WebcamWonder: If I was to install a new version of something from source, should I remove the older version that was installed via the package manager first?
[02:01] <jero> terr_ - i mean me, not you
[02:01] <terr_> jero: I've needed it before on my desktop but not recently.  As I said I bought vmware a few years back...
[02:01] <kshadow> I messed up my gentoo system by installing some stuff via portage, and some stuff via manual compiling.
[02:01] <WebcamWonder> kshadow: Definitely
[02:01] <unixdawg> but skype/xten/zoiper I can hear the audio on the headset but none of the apps are getting autio from the dsl input
[02:01] <terr_> jero I know!
[02:01] <gsker> i thought xmms was gone, but I see it's still here.  Was there a fork?
[02:01] <KyleK> kshadow: if you can remove just the package you're upgrading go for it
[02:01] <kshadow> Thanks.
[02:02] <kshadow> K.
[02:02] <unixdawg> I had not heard xmms had dies
[02:02] <unixdawg> died
[02:02] <terr_> jero: maybe on my next machine I will set up a VM capability adn wine as well.  I presume this is all done in ubuntu...
[02:02] <unixdawg> why would they killit
[02:02] <kshadow> Also, know if the atheros problems with intrepid have been sorted out?
[02:02] <terr_> jero in debian I need to do it
[02:02] <cricri> i mounted my usb key in /mnt how do i go back to the intstall
[02:03] <terr_> cricri: ??? rephrase the question please
[02:03] <terr_> cricri: I would think umount it and remount where you want it
[02:03] <terr_> cricri: I've never done this however for a USB key
[02:04] <cphillips> any idea how to improve a wireless connection? Ive disabled ipv6 and run ndiswrapper
[02:04] <cricri> i mounted my usb in /mnt/usb but i dont know how to tell the ubuntu installation to look in it
[02:04] <cphillips> but its still crap
[02:04] <gsker> It must have a fork that looks a lot like the original. Audacious, maybe?
[02:04] <gsker> kshadow: atheros is stil tricky in intrepid.
[02:04] <unixdawg> checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc   ) works... no
[02:04] <unixdawg> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables.
[02:04] <gsker> I just install madwifi-hal every time I do a kernal update
[02:04] <gsker> sucks
[02:05] <cricri> the ubuntu installer cannot find the iso image
[02:05] <JabberBox> hey guys, having some trouble with LIRC. anyone willing to help a total noob (me :p) out with this?
[02:05] <kshadow> gsker: Would that work for madwifi-ng?
[02:05] <unixdawg> any idea on this issue
[02:05] <gsker> cricri alt-ctrl-f1 or f2 or f3 or whever that is sitting.
[02:05] <WebcamWonder> unixdawg: You need to get build-essential, to get gcc and g++
[02:06] <cricri> gsker yes i managed to go back to install but the install still wont find the iso
[02:06] <terr_> cricri: does the ubuntu installer go through a boot?
[02:06] <jrib> unixdawg: what are you trying to accomplish?
[02:06] <cricri> it boots and then looks for iso
[02:06] <unixdawg> building kssh
[02:06] <sgorf> I think I'm being affected by a regression in hal. Is there an easy way to get hold of old binary packages so that I can try an older version?
[02:06] <unixdawg> right now
[02:06] <cricri> i manually give it the boot options
[02:06] <terr_> cricri: it will lose everything iduring the reboot of course
[02:07] <terr_> cricri: I presume you realise this?
[02:07] <betterhands> i've been using 8.10 for a few weeks now and just wanted folks to know how amazed i am out how well things have gone.  my hard drive dying was a blessing in disguise as it was the cause for me to install ubuntu in the first place, now i wouldn't consider another OS.  helpful folks on the forums and in here have been a big reason for my positive experience so far and i just wanted to say thanks.
[02:07] <jrib> unixdawg: kssh is in the repositories, use synaptic or some other APT frontend
[02:07] <cricri> lose what? i dont have anything, my goal is to install ubuntu
[02:07] <JabberBox> basically I just need LIRC to receive my Phillips USB IR and recognize my Harmony 550 programed with device xbox360.
[02:07] <terr_> cricri: yes - but if the machine reboots between when you mount the USB key and run the installer then the mount is lost
[02:07] <chalcedony> betterhands: YAY !! glad you like it :)
[02:07] <sgorf> hal has suddenly stopped detecting my keyboard, mouse, network cards and I don't know what else
[02:08] <sgorf> So nothing works
[02:08] <CaptainMorgan> betterhands, cheers
[02:08] <chalcedony> WebcamWonder: my other coaching person told me to use mc to find the paths. HOW?
[02:08] <UndertakerX2> what are hgfx shares?
[02:08] <cricri> i mount it within the installer using the simple ash provided
[02:08] <WebcamWonder> chalcedony: There is an enviromment variable named PATH. Are you asking about that env variable? Or what paths to backup?
[02:09] <terr_> cricri: and no reboot after that?
[02:09] <cricri> i did not reboot after mounting
[02:09] <betterhands> thanks--it's cool to see how great community based stuff can be.
[02:09] <cricri> i did alt-f2 alt-f1 to go to ash
[02:09] <terr_> cricri: ok - we are past that hurdle then.  I was worrying about you needing to make a new initrd with drivers and so forth
[02:09] <gsker> cricri you shoud be able to say that the iso is at /mnt/mystick/file.iso ...
[02:09] <cricri> from within the install
[02:09] <chalcedony> WebcamWonder:  "look around and see if you want files from any other path" i never use mc.. i've forgotten what little i did in it ever.
[02:09] <terr_> gsker: exactly
[02:10] <JabberBox> anyone know a room for LIRC or similar?
[02:10] <kshadow> LIRC?
[02:10] <nitrousinacan> I'm having a problem with my "sudo apt-get update" readout. Can someone help me?
[02:10] <cricri> but where is this option gsker
[02:10] <WebcamWonder> chalcedony: Yeah, that looks likes the folders you would want to backup. You can use any file browser to look for which folders to backup. MC just happens to be one of them. YOu can even use nautiluys
[02:10] <JabberBox> linux IR remote control
[02:10] <WebcamWonder> nitrousinacan: pastebin it please
[02:10] <bigbucks> is there a tut I can follow to install ubuntu on VB
[02:10] <Matr|X> Do any one no how to open a executable file in Ubuntu? Or is there any code or tools out there what will do this job?
[02:10] <terr_> cricri: have ytou tried appending blah to the path?  You will need to use "source" if via a script or .blah
[02:10] <unixdawg> ok kssh on 4.2 is borked
[02:11] <unixdawg> Unknown option 'T'.
[02:11] <unixdawg> konsole: Use --help to get a list of available command line options.
[02:11] <WebcamWonder> Matr|X: Double click?
[02:11] <unixdawg> thats the error
[02:11] <Matr|X> nop
[02:11] <kshadow> Matr|X: You mean, like a windows executable file?
[02:11] <kshadow> Matr|X: chmod +x filename, make it executable.
[02:11] <kshadow> Then just ./filename to run it
[02:11] <cricri> the path in boot options?
[02:11] <nitrousinacan> WebcamWonder: http://pastebin.com/m14e5f1fc
[02:11] <Matr|X> no this not the probelem
[02:11] <cricri> terr_
[02:11] <gsker> cricri : I'm not in the middle of one of those installs and can't think how that might work.
[02:12] <kshadow> Matr|X: Explain?
[02:12] <nitrousinacan> WebcamWonder: lines 76-77.
[02:12] <unixdawg> so this sucks kssh being borked
[02:12] <unixdawg> grrrr
[02:12] <terr_> cricri: ??
[02:12] <cricri> is there a way to specify location in boot options? is this what you mean terr_
[02:12] <bigbucks> is there a tut on installing Ubuntu on VirtualBox?
[02:12] <WebcamWonder> nitrousinacan: You don't have the key for medibuntu. Did you add that repo yourself?
[02:12] <julio> estoy en linea
[02:12] <Matr|X> like in windows i have file .exe  in ubntu i have another file not on exe but type executable % application/x-executable ,, i want to edit this file make some new change to make for me more jobs eny help
[02:12] <cricri> i never had that much trouble setting up
[02:12] <terr_> cricri: perhaps yes - the path in the boot options.  look at the paths the installer sees
[02:12] <WebcamWonder> nitrousinacan: Oh, wait. Scratch that
[02:13] <nitrousinacan> WebcamWonder: Yes. I readded it, and I readded the pgp too.
[02:13] <Fezzler> what's the current version of Ubuntu?
[02:13] <kshadow> Matr|X: You mean you want to change the executable file?!
[02:13] <terr_> cricri: the installer is just a program and when it looks for stuff it will look in hard coded places - configured places and maybe on a path
[02:13] <tritium> Fezzler: 8.10, Intrepid Ibex
[02:13] <WebcamWonder> nitrousinacan: Hold up
[02:13] <kshadow> If you want to execute it, make it executable with `chmod +x filename`, and execute it with `./filename`
[02:14] <Matr|X> yes
[02:14] <jero> bigbucks - start a new machine,  set it up. after you are done with it, before you power it up, click on CDROM and browse to the ubuntu iso to bind it in. Now your machine will act like a real one having an ubuntu cdrom inside, once you power it up
[02:14] <terr_> cricri: you might also be able to cd to /mnt/blah and then run the installer
[02:14] <kshadow> Matr|X: If you have the source code, you can alter it, but like in windows, you cannot just edit a an executable file.
[02:14] <Fezzler> how do I tell which version is on my PC?
[02:14] <unixdawg> when did xmms die
[02:14] <terr_> cricri: whatever it is - its likely to be simple
[02:14] <unixdawg> its not in the repos
[02:14] <kshadow> unixdawg: Several years ago.
[02:15] <Matr|X> how i can make my own file:O like the one i have
[02:15] <unixdawg> what is the replacement
[02:15] <trent1> if i use the "create a usb startup disk" i will be able to boot from a usb drive right?
[02:15] <kshadow> unixdawg: Audacious.
[02:15] <tritium> unixdawg: it appears that xmms2 is in the repos
[02:15] <kshadow> Matr|X: I don't really know what you're saying.
[02:15] <kshadow> You can program one?
[02:15] <unixdawg> I thought xmms2 was a server app
[02:15] <dyf> hello.. i'm using fluxbox, is there a command line tool that can help set the brightness of my laptop screen?
[02:15] <Matr|X> yes
[02:15] <Matr|X> i mean this program
[02:15] <trent1> will i be able to install programs to this "portable ubuntu"
[02:15] <kshadow> Matr|X: Learn a programming language, like C++, then code it?
[02:16] <Matr|X> wht edito i use or wht program code i use
[02:16] <WebcamWonder> nitrousinacan: Pastebin your sources please
[02:16] <Matr|X> c ++ and i will code one for me like this one :O
[02:16] <kshadow> unixdawg: Audacious was the replacement, and it's quite nice.
[02:16] <edge> I had a deb package manually get installed, and when i went to remove it left something bc now when i do a apt-get update and upgrade it fails because it can't find the package, how do i remove it?
[02:16] <terr_> cricri: are you making headway?
[02:16] <tritium> kshadow: xmms2 is in the repos
[02:16] <Matr|X> i can learn code c++ in ubntu machine ?
[02:16] <kshadow> What are the repos?
[02:17] <tritium> kshadow: repositories
[02:17] <kshadow> Matr|X: Yes.
[02:17] <unixdawg> where in the repos is it
[02:17] <nitrousinacan> WebcamWonder: http://pastebin.com/m2cc27d3d
[02:17] <tritium> !info xmms2 | unixdawg
[02:17] <terr_> Matr|X: hard to say - if you can learn C++ in any other machine then Ubuntu should be no issue
[02:17] <jero> trent1 - booting from a USB HDD is the same as booting from a normal HDD if your bios supports it. The problem you might encounter is getting a bootblock on your USB HDD. On some models it is not possible at all, except by pulling out the HDD and connecting it to the real controler, then placing it back into the usb case
[02:17] <unixdawg> ok
[02:17] <bigbucks> Can anyone talk to me on m5n and tell me to get ubuntu unning on vitualbox?
[02:17] <bigbucks> OMG!!!!
[02:18] <tritium> !patience | bigbucks
[02:18] <bigbucks> THATS NOT IT
[02:18] <terr_> jero: is this true of the flash USB sticks?
[02:18] <tritium> bigbucks: cut it out
[02:18] <cricri> ok  i had to umount it so that it couyld mount it and detect it
[02:18] <trent1> i was planing to use it on computers at school, i don't think our security is very tight so there shouldn't be a "boot block"
[02:18] <terr_> cricri: np
[02:19] <jero> terr_ - not sure if all usb sticks allow you to place a bootblock on them. In doubt i would check for success stories on certain usb sticks
[02:19] <bigbucks> every time I turn on virtualbox it opens a thing wanting me to give it permission and I cannot switch windows now
[02:19] <unixdawg> I dont find xmms2 in the repops
[02:19] <WebcamWonder> nitrousinacan: Either of the 2 ppa repos don't have the keys added. Could you try adding them again?
[02:19] <tritium> unixdawg: it's in the universe repository
[02:19] <jero> terr_ if they wanted to prevent it however, they could. just by setting the stick controller to not allow writing on the bootblock
[02:19] <tonsofpcs> can I use apt to install packages for a 32 bit chroot when using a 64 bit kernel? [trying to modify a 32 bit livecd]
[02:19] <terr_> jero: on that new machine I'm going to install ubuntu on... it has no usuable peripherals at present - but it does ahve USB... maybe I can do the install that way
[02:20] <bigbucks> anyways
[02:20] <bigbucks> fixed
[02:20] <bigbucks> where do I get the file to install Ubuntu on VirtualBox
[02:20] <terr_> jero: I'll simply tell the salesman I want one that I can create a boot FS on
[02:20] <gsker> terr_: good luck with hat.   :-)
[02:20] <tritium> bigbucks: download the .iso image from ubuntu's website
[02:20] <gsker> s/hat/that/
[02:21] <RulerOf> bigbucks: why don't you just feed an ubuntu iso into it?
[02:21] <RulerOf> ah :P
[02:21] <terr_> jero: my machine is small enough I'll carry it in and ask them to show me it can be done.
[02:21] <jero> terr_ salesmen are known for knowing nothing
[02:21] <trent1> ok, well i got my answer. thanks for the help jero :)
[02:21] <bigbucks> IDK how to
[02:21] <tritium> bigbucks: go to the webpage and download it
[02:21] <Matr|X> the you for helping
[02:21] <terr_> jero this is not much different than buying a region free DVD.  If they say I can switch region codes I will show then a list of 4 and ask them to show me before I buy it.
[02:22] <terr_> jero I've done more sales than most and don't I know it!
[02:22] <nitrousinacan> WebcamWonder: Ok. Done. Should I "sudo apt-get update"?
[02:22] <WebcamWonder> nitrousinacan: sudo aptitude update, aptitude over apt-get is preffered :)
[02:22] <bigbucks> can I get a URL to the iso just I cannot find it
[02:22] <RulerOf> bigbucks: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[02:22] <terr_> jero in this business it is NOT an advantage to know much.   Never used aptitude. Same thing pretty much?
[02:23] <WebcamWonder> nitrousinacan: Very much the same
[02:23] <Hilikus> what happens to my ubuntu box if i replace the mobo and CPU?? wil it still work or i have to reinstall?
[02:23] <Leppers> whats the command to view how much RAM is on machine and how much is free/used?
[02:23] <nitrousinacan> WebcamWonder: Done. No errors. Thanks!
[02:23] <WebcamWonder> Leppers: top does it
[02:24] <bigbucks> it is a lond download
[02:24] <IndyGunFreak> Hilikus: hopefully.. ;)  if not, you don't have to pay for another user agreement to reinstall.
[02:24] <WX_0> Leppers: free -m
[02:24] <bigbucks> long
[02:24] <thoben> try top
[02:24] <WebcamWonder> nitrousinacan: No problems
[02:24] <Leppers> thanks
[02:24] <terr_> Hilikus: I think it _should_ work.  However why do you want to save the case?  Just moive the HDD
[02:24] <Hilikus> terr_ i dont have 2 cases, what i really want to save is the current setup of my server, i dont want ot install and reconfigure every process i have running in it
[02:25] <gsker> temperature:             63 C
[02:25] <edge> how can u remove packages manually without using apt-get bc it wont do it
[02:25] <Draken> does anyone know why I would lose visual effects because of updates?
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> edge: why won't it?
[02:25] <WebcamWonder> edge: What are you trying to remove that apt-get wouldn't let you?
[02:25] <jrib> edge: be more specific than "it wont do it"
[02:25] <progre55> hi everybody!
[02:25] <terr_> Hilikus: but cases are basically throw aways.  You should install the MB and so forth in a new case and move the HDD
[02:25] <tritium> terr_: cases can be reused
[02:26] <edge> WebcamWonder IndyGunFreak it was installed with a .deb and the deb is gone, and i used i to remove it but it still things it exists so im having issues installing other stuff
[02:26] <progre55> can anybody suggest me a cool theme on ubuntu intrepid please? :)
[02:26] <Leppers> WebcamWonder: WX_0: You Guys Are Amazing!
[02:26] <Hilikus> terr_ i dont have another case. i just have an extra mobo and cpu
[02:26] <terr_> Hilikus: that way if there is a glitch you can move it back.  ALso how big is the HDD?  I picked up 160 GB IDE for like $35 bux.
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> edge: where'd you get the .deb?
[02:26] <WebcamWonder> edge: That is still very vague. Please pastebin the output when you are facing this problem
[02:26] <edge> IndyGunFreak from zimbra ,
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:26] <Hilikus> terr_ i have a 250gb and a 20gb
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> yeah, edge try to apt-get remove it, then pastebin the error
[02:27] <terr_> Hilikus: place the ner Mobo on a static matt and pulg a powersupply into it etc etc adn then try it...
[02:27] <terr_> Hilikus: is the OS on the 20GB?
[02:27] <edge> IndyGunFreak this is what happens when i try to use apt or any managment http://nopaste.com/p/auCLbTU66
[02:27] <terr_> Hilikus: that would be the smart way to do it.
[02:27] <Hilikus> terr_ my question was more, would ubuntu boot to the last status or it would freak out wit the different hardware
[02:27] <terr_> Hilikus: it should boot.  But I've never tried it.
[02:27] <Hilikus> terr_ yes, 20 for OS, 250 for mythtv
[02:28] <tritium> Hilikus: hardware is auto-detected on boot, so you shouln't have trouble.
[02:28] <WebcamWonder> edge: sudo apt-get install -f, that should fix broken packages first
[02:28] <Hilikus> thank guys
[02:28] <terr_> Hilikus: mythtv?
[02:28] <Hilikus> terr_ PVR
[02:28] <terr_> Hilikus: can you get another 20GB?
[02:28] <terr_> Hilikus: PVR?  I've never used it.
[02:28] <Matr|X> sudo apt-get install -f
[02:28] <Hilikus> terr_ what for?
[02:28] <dannywesleypasqu> ola
[02:28] <Matr|X> this will fix broken packeg
[02:28] <Hilikus> terr_ to install it again in the second one?
[02:29] <terr_> Hilikus: I like to leap frog - clone the HDD and don't bring down a machine until the new one is working.
[02:29] <dannywesleypasqu> hello
[02:29] <tritium> terr_: you're missing out.  There's an entire ubuntu derivative distro called mythbuntu specifically for mythtv.
[02:29] <chalcedony> WebcamWonder: is there a command line command to show a treeview of directories? i just am kind of freaked out about trying to ues these gui things. i do command line because i can see black and white.
[02:29] <Hilikus> terr_ i see
[02:29] <progre55> hey people, please anybody suggest me a cool theme on ubuntu intrepid :)
[02:29] <terr_> tritium: but I don't yet know what mythtc is.
[02:29] <dannywesleypasqu> sim
[02:29] <edge> Matr|X doesn't work
[02:29] <tritium> terr_: shocking
[02:30] <terr_> Hilikus: I've never had problems I could not get around mind you.
[02:30] <Matr|X> thx
[02:30] <edge> WebcamWonder that didn't work
[02:30] <tritium> !mythtv | terr_
[02:30] <WebcamWonder> chalcedony: I don't know. I have never been required to done that
[02:30] <Matr|X> cool theme for ubntu hardy ?
[02:30] <terr_> tritium: I live in a cave and plug my computers into rocks
[02:30] <WebcamWonder> edge: pastebin?
[02:30] <Hilikus> terr_ theres no way around hardware problems
[02:30] <edge> WebcamWonder http://nopaste.com/p/auCLbTU66
[02:30] <edge> WebcamWonder no matter what i do i get that ,its annoying i just wanna edit it out of its memory
[02:30] <terr_> tritium: that sounds VERY interesting for something I want to do
[02:30] <kshadow> Alright, I'm going to try and update to ibtrepid ibex.
[02:30] <IndyGunFreak> Matr|X: there's lots of them.. http://www.gnome-look.org  assuming you're using gnome
[02:31] <tritium> terr_: good deal
[02:31] <kshadow> Hopefully my internet won't stop working again.
[02:31] <Hilikus> for some reason my system freezes and I THINK it happens when the temperature in my room drops
[02:31] <WebcamWonder> edge: What did, sudo apt-get install -f say?
[02:31] <dstrbdfrk1> does anyone have an acer aspire one i just got it and put ubuntu on it and i cant get my wireless working
[02:31] <Hilikus> so i,m pretty sure its hardware, not ubuntu
[02:31] <kshadow> dstrbdfrk1: I do.
[02:31] <kshadow> dstrbdfrk1: Well, aspire 5100.
[02:31] <kshadow> But my wireless wouldn't work with intrepid before.
[02:32] <WebcamWonder> dstrbdfrk1: Every model differs. You need to find what card is in your particular model
[02:32] <dstrbdfrk1> do you think you can help? kshadow
[02:32] <edge> WebcamWonder http://nopaste.com/p/aerS9RAh0
[02:32] <owen9914> dstrbdfrk1: install madwifi
[02:32] <terr_> Hilikus: how much liquid nitrogen are you using?
[02:32] <Hilikus> hehe
[02:32] <kshadow> dstrbdfrk1: Not sure, but someone earlier here said they installed madwifi-hal and got things working.
[02:32] <malibu> Is someone here familiar with samba?  I have server running on 8.10 and it works prefectly except I can't browse to the workgroup itself with windows.  I get 'network name not found'
[02:32] <WebcamWonder> edge: Can you actually go and download zimbra-core, and reinstall it?
[02:32] <malibu> I'm pulling my hair out over this.. tried a bunch of stuff i googled but nothing works
[02:32] <dstrbdfrk1> um i dont kno how to do those things im pretty new and im gunna need one on one instructions
[02:33] <edge> WebcamWonder i could, but its not installed , so why can't i just remove it from the package manager?
[02:33] <terr_> Hilikus: as for your migration issue... a 20GB should be next to nothing.  Clone your existing one is my suggestion...  also any old old old machine (spare) should be ok for this
[02:33] <jero> malibu - you tried to search for the server ip within windows?
[02:33] <Hilikus> terr_ this IS my spare machine :P
[02:33] <terr_> Hilikus: after you clone it - move the HDD and test it.
[02:33] <WebcamWonder> edge: Some package depends on it, and apt-get wants to reinstall it due to some reason
[02:33] <terr_> Hilikus: it seems to be a production machine too.
[02:33] <edge> WebcamWonder no way to over ride?
[02:33] <terr_> Hilikus: if you lived in my city I'd give you a spare!
[02:33] <WebcamWonder> edge: But this behaviour is very weird, even for apt-get
[02:34] <negativegluebear> anyone know why my S-video to my HDTV(1080p) resolution is maxing out at 1024x768?
[02:34] <Hilikus> terr_ i build a server just to use spare parts i had lying around
[02:34] <dstrbdfrk1> how do i install madwifi?
[02:34] <Hilikus> i built*
[02:34] <WebcamWonder> edge: It would be much easier if you went through the process of installation and removal
[02:34] <edge> WebcamWonder nothing relies on it , so im confused why i can't just delete it from a world list or something
[02:34] <terr_> be ahppy to do that for some help/manpower building a few systems to donate to some school labs in fact
[02:34] <malibu> jero: no.. what is the command for that?
[02:34] <owen9914> dstrbdfrk1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne should show you how to do it
[02:35] <terr_> friend of mine tosses machines... they tossed at least 50 a few months back
[02:35] <jero> malibu - first of, do a ping to your server, to see if there is no firewall blocking
[02:35] <Hilikus> :S
[02:35] <malibu> jero: just a regular ping?
[02:35] <jero> malibu - ping <serverIP>
[02:35] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> im having a issue with kubuntu.. is this the right channel ?
[02:35] <negativegluebear> try #kubuntu
[02:35] <terr_> jero: mytv looks awsome
[02:35] <malibu> jero: ping works.. not surprised.. it's just my home network
[02:35] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> negativegluebear: im trying but it places me here.. in #ubuntu
[02:36] <jero> malibu - then in windows open my computer, and do ctrl+f - and enter the server ip in the search field
[02:36] <negativegluebear> then ya you're in the right place =)
[02:36] <terr_> jero: how fast a machine (cpu mostly) would mytv need to run well?
[02:36] <malibu> jero: wow ctrl-f works?  Good trick.. trying.
[02:36] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> ok im having a issue.. im using the kubuntu live cd.. i am connecting my camera and it wont reconize
[02:36] <WebcamWonder> webbhawk_h4x0r19: That is b/c you are coming in from mibbit
[02:37] <Hilikus> terr_ it is awesome
[02:37] <jero> malibu - yes it works, i use it quite often when it fails to find the server automatically
[02:37] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> WebcamWonder: yeah im on a live cd.. so mibbit is fastest way for me to join irc channels
[02:37] <malibu> ok it found the computer by IP
[02:37] <malibu> jero: just browsing to it
[02:38] <malibu> jero: ok I'm in, that worked
[02:38] <Hilikus> terr_ it does take a lot of time and knowledge to get it running
[02:38] <WebcamWonder> webbhawk_h4x0r19: Yup. The proxy setup just throws to #ubuntu, never considers other channels
[02:38] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> im plugging in my camera and it wont reconigze .... any ideas?
[02:38] <jero> terr_ - mythTV is really cool, but i stopped watching TV lately :D
[02:38] <perlsyntax_> What package do i need to install 2.6.1 python?
[02:38] <terr_> Hilikus: I've got an old shuttle machine... I don't know how fast the CPU is yet - but its about a vintage 2000 machine... do you think it can handle mytv?
[02:38] <DBO> i am having sound issues
[02:39] <malibu> perlsyntax_:  You need to build python for ubuntu
[02:39] <terr_> jero: with the crap that is on no kidding.
[02:39] <WebcamWonder> !sound | DBO
[02:39] <DBO> all I am getting is a crackling noise out of my speakers
[02:39] <perlsyntax_> yes i do
[02:39] <Hilikus> terr_ the requirements are not too bad except in harddrive and you need a tv tuner of course
[02:39] <perlsyntax_> i want to try the 2.6.1
[02:39] <DBO> WebcamWonder, no dice, seen those
[02:39] <terr_> BTW my shuttle will support 6 monitors!
[02:39] <WebcamWonder> DBO: Using PA or ALSA?
[02:39] <terr_> Hilikus: I was told we can get USB tuners
[02:39] <Dillizar> !gnomad
[02:39] <perlsyntax_> malibu
[02:39] <Hilikus> terr_ don't
[02:39] <Dillizar> !gnomad2
[02:40] <DBO> WebcamWonder, checking without PA now...
[02:40] <Hilikus> terr_ usb tuners use software encoding
[02:40] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> whats the gnome app for cameras ..
[02:40] <terr_> Hilikus: I was also told the HDTV is really an mpeg
[02:40] <Hilikus> terr_ in which case you do need a pretty powerful cpu
[02:40] <perlsyntax_> Does anyone know?
[02:40] <perlsyntax_> i know i need the devel files if i am right.
[02:40] <joshjtl> can anyone recommend an app to flip through desktop wallpaper?
[02:40] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> preinstalled on ubuntu.. anyone know
[02:40] <terr_> Hilikus: he was from Europe and I think was picking up HDTV - already an mpeg4
[02:40] <malibu> jero: know what I can try next?
[02:40] <l7> hi, i just installed the openssh server but i can't get a command prompt when i shell in to my box.  do i need to configure it to use a different login shell?
[02:41] <tritium> l7: nope
[02:41] <WebcamWonder> webbhawk_h4x0r19: There is no pre-installed app last time I checked. I think cheese happens to be the most popular one
[02:41] <WebcamWonder> !cheese
[02:41] <DBO> WebcamWonder, killing PA makes the crackling go away, but still no sound
[02:41] <jero> malibu - i thought you said you were in. what is the mater ?
[02:41] <terr_> l7 openssh server?
[02:41] <l7> tritium: why can't i get a command prompt then?
[02:41] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> WebcamWonder: there is a preinstalled app that deals with images and cameras though..
[02:41] <malibu> jero: I still can't get to the workgroup
[02:41] <tritium> l7: not sure.  You should be.
[02:41] <l7> terr_: yes
[02:41] <terr_> i7 mod-ssh? for apache?
[02:41] <Matr|X> i downloaded thems from here http://www.gnome-look.org/  how can i install it but i have compiz fuion installed on my box
[02:41] <malibu> jero: If I browse to the actual workgroup it doesn't work
[02:42] <patacute> hi, could anyone give me opera repo for ubuntu 8.10 source.list
[02:42] <WebcamWonder> DBO: What app are you testing your sound with?
[02:42] <Hilikus> terr_ ok, in that case maybe, but even with difital tv i have to digitize it because my cable box converts it to analog apparently (i'm using svideo) so i have to REdigitize it again to store it in my hdd
[02:42] <malibu> jero: I can use \\servername\share just fine
[02:42] <jero> malibu - have you restarted both machines?
[02:42] <DBO> WebcamWonder, there we go, PCM was magically shut off
[02:42] <jero> malibu - after setting it up?
[02:42] <l7> terr_: i have openssh-client and openssh-server installed
[02:42] <Dillizar> does any body knows smt bout gnomad
[02:42] <terr_> Hilikus: ac->dc->ac->dc adn on and on
[02:42] <Hilikus> afaik output of a cable box is always analog
[02:42] <DBO> WebcamWonder, ok, PA working now too... thanks for that =)
[02:43] <WebcamWonder> DBO: :) I didn't do anything
[02:43] <terr_> l7: its been a few years since I worked with that
[02:43] <tritium> Hilikus: what are you looking for?  Most HD TV tuner cards support ATSC (over-the-air) and unencrypted QAM-256 (cable)
[02:43] <malibu> jero: yes many times.. I've had this problem ever since upgrading from 7.10 to 8.10 a few months ago
[02:43] <DBO> WebcamWonder, shhh, its easier to say you fixed it than admit I forgot to check PCM
[02:43] <terr_> l7:  if you remind me what they do it might ring a bell.
[02:43] <Hilikus> terr_ yes, you can get digital tv tuners but i dont really see the point since you can't connect your cable directly to it cause all cable signals are scrambled
[02:44] <dstrbdfrk1> owen9914: i followed the instructions you gave me and i hit an error can you help?
[02:44] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> anyone know what i should do .. if it wont reconize my camera
[02:44] <WebcamWonder> Hilikus: A little offtopic, aren't we?
[02:44] <patacute> hi, could anyone give me opera repo for ubuntu 8.10 source.list
[02:44] <jero> malibu - sorry then i have no clue then. all the info i knew i gave you about this. Personally i would check if on the server site i set the sharing options properly for the folders etc i want to share
[02:44] <l7> terr_: openssh-server allows you to connect to your box via ssh and and adminster it remotely
[02:44] <Hilikus> tritium i'm still SD, but when i enquired about a digital tv card i was told it would still not work, basically no way around my cable provider's box
[02:44] <terr_> Hilikus: what of the feeds into the flat panels.
[02:44] <WebcamWonder> patacute: www.opera.com lists one last time I checked
[02:44] <l7> ah well, maybe a reboot will fix this, but i can't reboot for a few hours
[02:44] <terr_> l7:oh!
[02:44] <tritium> Hilikus: it depends on which channels they provide unencrypted
[02:45] <terr_> Of course I use it all te time!
[02:45] <patacute> webbhawk_h4x0r19, did u add it to your source.list?
[02:45] <tritium> l7: you don't have to reboot.  sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart, and see if it works
[02:45] <Hilikus> tritium probably none, who would, they want you to buy a box
[02:45] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> patacute: no whats that
[02:45] <tritium> Hilikus: most do, at least locals
[02:45] <terr_> l7: start the server daemon... you will need to config the user log in and any shell will owrk.  On the remote machine just ssh blah
[02:45] <malibu> jero: Ok thanks..
[02:46] <patacute> webbhawk_h4x0r19, ok i see
[02:46] <malibu> jero: it's a tough one.. been trying to figure it out for a long time
[02:46] <WebcamWonder> patacute: What are you talking about?
[02:46] <malibu> jero: usually I get around the probllem with network places, but now I'm in a position with an app that I need the workgroup
[02:46] <patacute> webbhawk_h4x0r19, i want to add opera repo to my souce.list
[02:46] <patacute> WebcamWonder, ^^
[02:46] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> i didnt say that
[02:47] <terr_> Hilikus: there are two interfaces into flat panels and I forget the letters since I've not used them (yet).  One is just digital like DPI or somehting and the other includes sound and is like HDLC or something
[02:47] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> i cant get my camera to reconize
[02:47] <l7> terr_: how do i start the server daemon?  i can already ssh to localhost, so perhaps this means it is running but not properly configured.
[02:47] <terr_> Hilikus: I can't find my notes right now
[02:47] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> im trying to copy the pictures to my computer
[02:47] <WebcamWonder> patacute: System -> Administration -> Software Sources, add away
[02:47] <tritium> terr_: DVI and HDMI (also DisplayPort)
[02:47] <terr_> tritium: thanks
[02:47] <Hilikus> terr_ but you still need to descramble the signal from your cable provider, so you have to go through a set top box, which output is analog
[02:47] <tritium> No, I did not equate HDMI to DisplayPort, they are separate standards.
[02:48] <patacute> WebcamWonder, thanks
[02:48] <jero> malibu was there any reason for you to upgrade to 7.10?
[02:48] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> WebcamWonder: any idea what i should do
[02:48] <WebcamWonder> !webcam | webbhawk_h4x0r19
[02:48] <jero> 8.10 pardon
[02:48] <terr_> Hilikus: but I thought DVI and HDVI were digital?
[02:48] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> WebcamWonder: its a digital camera
[02:48] <tritium> Hilikus: see this:  http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html
[02:48] <WebcamWonder> !offtopic | terr_ Hilikus tritium
[02:48] <tritium> terr_: they are
[02:48] <terr_> l7: to start the deamon try sshd
[02:48] <Hilikus> ok
[02:48] <Hilikus> thanks for the help guys
[02:48] <WebcamWonder> webbhawk_h4x0r19: And it doesn't show up as a hdd?
[02:48] <Hilikus> good night
[02:48] <tritium> WebcamWonder: take it easy
[02:49] <l7> terr_: it says "sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path"
[02:49] <malibu> jero: 8.10?  no, not particularly.. Just wanted to stay fresh
[02:49] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> WebcamWonder:  no i plug it in turn it on .. and nothing happens
[02:49] <WebcamWonder> webbhawk_h4x0r19: Did you try googling that specific model>
[02:49] <jero> malibu - 7.10 is actually running faster, and since it worked fine, you actually did a downgrade :D
[02:49] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> yes... nothing really..
[02:49] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> its worked before
[02:49] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> never had any issues
[02:50] <terr_> l7: hmm... I've never seen that... try /locate sshd and then /usr/local or wherever it lives
[02:50] <l7> terr_: actually /usr/sbin/sshd is already running when i do ps
[02:50] <WebcamWonder> webbhawk_h4x0r19: Can you pastebin the output of, sudo fdisk -l  ?
[02:50] <tritium> l7: did you restart it, as I told you to?
[02:50] <malibu> jero: doh
[02:50] <terr_> l7: ok - then the issue is in /etc/sshd
[02:50] <l7> tritium: kill it and restart it?
[02:50] <malibu> jero: I have probs with 8.10 too.
[02:50] <joshjtl> can anyone recommend a random wallpaper switcher?
[02:50] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> WebcamWonder: sure.. whats the key press that will give me a terminal
[02:50] <tritium> l7: no, sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart, like I said
[02:50] <terr_> l7: ok - then the issue is in /etc/sshd.config or whatiever its called.  I can check mine
[02:51] <WebcamWonder> webbhawk_h4x0r19: Applications -> Acc -> terminal
[02:51] <malibu> jero: hope 9.10 is better
[02:51] <jero> malibu - my favorite is 8.04. If i read correctly it will be supported till 2011. Appart it was the one running best with my hardware, and the one running best in my vbox
[02:51] <tritium> terr_: it shouldn't require any config changes.  It should run "out of the box."
[02:51] <jero> malibu - 8.10 is supported only till 2010 if i read correct
[02:51] <WebcamWonder> webbhawk_h4x0r19: Ihave to go
[02:51] <WebcamWonder> webbhawk_h4x0r19: Sorry
[02:51] <terr_> tritium: I forget... servers have been up for years... also my servers are openBSD... desktops are linux
[02:51] <l7> terr_: the thing is i can login to my box, but i cannot get a shell
[02:52] <dstrbdfrk1> ok i have an acer aspire one and i cant get the wifi to work i have googeled it and there is instructions on how to fix but there not working so i need some one on one help please
[02:52] <malibu> jero: I always wonder what I'm missing by running the .04 though
[02:52] <tritium> l7: then what do you get when you ssh to your box?
[02:52] <webbhawk_h4x0r19> can anyone help me with .. a camera that wont reconigze
[02:52] <l7> terr_: it seems to me that it does not know it needs to give me a bash shell when i log in
[02:52] <terr_> l7 what is in the /etc/passwd file?
[02:52] <tritium> l7: what do you see?  Can you pastebin it?
[02:52] <malibu> jero: How does 8.04 speed compare to 8.10?
[02:52] <joshjtl> hmm anyone
[02:52] <jero> malibu - 8.04 is faster in my vbox - much faster
[02:53] <tritium> jero: that seems far-fetched
[02:53] <l7> tritium: yes, in a moment
[02:53] <tritium> malibu: quite comparable
[02:53] <terr_> l7: mine seems ot be 100% defaults
[02:53] <RussM> malibu: I jumped up to 8.10 when it came out, and though I have no objective numbers, it does seem a little slower.
[02:54] <malibu> russM: I guess that teaches me to do alittle research first.. newer not necessarily better
[02:54] <cphillips> how can i tell if my router is a b g or n?
[02:54] <l7> tritium:  [Act: 9,10,11]
[02:54] <l7> [#ubuntu]
[02:54] <l7> whups
[02:54] <l7> tritium: here it is: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d27c070bc
[02:54] <jero> tritium nope, it is not. The mesa software acceleration on the 8.04 running in a vbox with the vbox tools installed, gives me 1800fps in glxgears . In 8.10 i get only around 400fps. But i also notice that when i run my opengl C code i develope within the vbox. On 8.04 my cube spins juust fine. 8.10 has problems with drawing it fast enough, making it look messy
[02:54] <tritium> l7: looks like irssi ;)
[02:55] <l7> yeah, mispaste :)
[02:55] <l7> so it gets to that point and then i just see a blinking cursor
[02:55] <terr_> jero that couild be a schedualer... try nice
[02:55] <tritium> jero: most benchmarks I've seen show performance gains (slight, but gains, nonetheless)
[02:55] <l7> ctrl-c doesn't allow me t escape either
[02:55] <l7> to*
[02:56] <RussM> malibu: In fact, newer is quite often worse... I immediately had problems because nothing worked with the new kernel yet (that is, things like VMWare). Took a little bit for the rest of the world to catch up.
[02:56] <jero> tritium - i am not saying there is not faster than 8.04 out there, cause there is, icebuntu 7.10 for example is even faster, but it is not fun working with it. 8.04 is very much like native in full screen. In fact i use it more often than my host OS
[02:56] <RussM> malibu: But someone has to run the new stuff, or the problems never get fixed.
[02:56] <jero> tritium - well, not in a vbox. Maybe on a desktop
[02:56] <tritium> jero: correct
[02:56] <tritium> l7: hitting "enter" doesn't get you a command prompt?
[02:58] <l7> tritium: no, it just creates a new line in the terminal screen, but nothing happens
[02:58] <dstrbdfrk1> acer aspire one 8.10 wifi trouble please help
[02:58] <lain_wired> Hiya, I may be just not seeing it, but I can't find the link to the 8.10 torrent. :\
[02:59] <tritium> l7: that's quite odd.  I've never seen that happen before.
[02:59] <jrib> !torrent | lain_wired
[02:59] <l7> tritium: okay this is weird, hitting ctrl-\ allows me to get a working shell
[02:59] <jrib> !torrents | lain_wired
[02:59] <mikeshollen> Can someone please help me get my Microphone working?
[02:59] <l7> so it works, but this seems like strange behavior
[03:00] <dyf> hello..  i change the file /etc/X11/fluxbox/fluxbox-menu and it somehow returns back to how it was.. why is that?
[03:00] <tritium> l7: it is...very
[03:00] <l7> i have no idea why ctrl-\ makes it work either
[03:00] <lain_wired> Thanks :)
[03:00] <l7> i thought i'd try to escape from it like telnet
[03:00] <dstrbdfrk1> can someone pleaseee help me get my acer aspire one working im sure its a simple problem i cant figure out
[03:01] <MTecknology> How can I make a comment about a file in bazaar?
[03:01] <malibu> RussM: Yeah well I had problems getting VMWare server to work in 7.10 too!
[03:02] <malibu> RussM: It's pretty amazing once it's working tho
[03:02] <unixdawg> ok I am down to 1 issue
[03:02] <unixdawg> applications not grabbing audio from the mic on dsp
[03:02] <unixdawg> skype/xlite/zoiper
[03:03] <unixdawg> kssh/kiax
[03:03] <unixdawg> not kssh
[03:03] <unixdawg> kphone
[03:03] <dstrbdfrk1> acer aspire one madwifi not working tried everything i kno please help
[03:04] <RussM> malibu, Are you using VMware 2.0.x or 1.0.x? I initially had problems getting 2.0.x to run on 8.10, and ended up going back to 1.0.x. I was thinking of trying again, but I've heard some mixed things about VMware Server 2.0.x
[03:04] <xorgiporgi> hello my graphics doesn't work (only bulletproofx) on ubuntu 8.04 and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg only asks me for keyboard options not for video, what can i do ;(
[03:05] <dstrbdfrk1> what command can i run to turn on my wifi???
[03:05] <seacnboy> hello, my hotmail is Garbled? who knows what's wrong
[03:06] <xorgiporgi> does ubuntu not work with intel graphics card on a dell vostro 200?
[03:07] <dstrbdfrk1> like am i being ignored or what
[03:07] <NotADJ> I have Kerberos Server installed, but it seems as if only the admin sevrer is open.
[03:07] <malibu> RussM: Using server 2.0
[03:07] <unixdawg> anyone here having issues with audi
[03:07] <unixdawg> o
[03:07] <gadabyte> #
[03:07] <RussM> dstrbdfrk1, Just can't help you, unfortunately.
[03:07] <malibu> Russm: The new web console took a lot of getting used to..
[03:07] <dstrbdfrk1> well thanx neway
[03:07] <progre55> hey people, please anybody suggest me a cool theme on ubuntu intrepid :)
[03:07] <malibu> RussM: But now I love it
[03:07] <unixdawg> and use skype/xlite/zoiper
[03:08] <anotherchimp> what do you think is cool? pink ponies? or matrix themes
[03:08] <dstrbdfrk1> come on now surley somebody knows whats wrong with my acer aspire one... i dont wanna have to switch to windows..
[03:09] <RussM> malibu Is there any client besides the web client? Or perhaps some good way to get rid of all the typical browser cruft around the outside of the window?
[03:09] <Flannel> !repeat | dstrbdfrk1
[03:11] <Cerrdor> i have a hp pavilion ze2000 with wifi card built in but it is not loading at boot
[03:11] <Cerrdor> also does not recognize how do i modprobe it?
[03:12] <unop> !wifi
[03:12] <unop> Cerrdor, have you had a look here? ^^
[03:12] <jamrun9> ... I'm trying to figure out the brand of my CD / DVD drive... lspci doesn't seem to offer any hints, nor does tailing dmesg. any ideas on where to find that? the specs for my laptop don't specify, either.
[03:12] <Cody> Im trying to make a Client AP and on a tutorial it tell me in basic settings tab to set the wireless network mode to client but i cannot do that. Theres no client mode.
[03:12] <Cody>  But it does have Use as Access Point is that the same thing?
[03:13] <unop> jamrun9, use.  lshal, lshw, hal-device, etc
[03:13] <zXstanyXz> anyone around that can help me with installing an ati driver? :D
[03:14] <Dexi> hey can anyone assist me in running a .run file?
[03:14] <Cody> Whats your problem
[03:14] <jero> Cody - client mode == managed ,   being an Access Point == master
[03:14] <Dexi> Cody: me? i dont know how
[03:15] <Dexi> :p i is newb
[03:15] <Cody> Me neither i was just going to help you research but hell try google first.
[03:15] <jero> Cody - try iwconfig --help in a terminal and check the mode setting
[03:15] <zXstanyXz> dexi open up a console and then sh "file"
[03:15] <zXstanyXz> i think that should run the .run file
[03:15] <unop> zXstanyXz, not a good idea - it might not be a shell script
[03:15] <Dexi> zXstanyXz: thanks :)
[03:15] <unop> Dexi, ^^
[03:15] <Dexi> unop: wha?
[03:16] <unop> Dexi, rather.  chmod +x  file.run;  ./file.run
[03:16] <Dexi> ... ok
[03:16] <zXstanyXz> true unop, though the only .run files i've came across are shell scripts
[03:16] <unop> zXstanyXz, that's a bad assumption tho
[03:16] <zXstanyXz> yeah i know
[03:16]  * zXstanyXz hangs head in shame
[03:17] <unop> zXstanyXz, there might be text in it that could be devastating if run under /bin/sh
[03:17] <Cerrdor> how do i find out what wireless card is built in?
[03:17] <gbleezy> whoo hoo!
[03:17] <Cody> Cerrdor:  lspci
[03:17] <Cody> Cerrdor: lspci in the terminal that is.
[03:17] <Cerrdor> ty
[03:17] <_VIM_> gbleezy: ?
[03:17] <jamrun9> unop: either I'm blind or stupid... or it really isn't listing this cd drive
[03:17] <Cody> Labeled network controller.
[03:17] <gbleezy> I just installed Xubuntu 8.10 on my Dell Inspiron 8500 Laptop....and it installed FLAWLESSLY!! I'm so happy...
[03:17] <unop> jamrun9, on mine.   lshal | grep -i storage.model  # lists the model
[03:18] <Cpudan80> Hooray Ubuntu!
[03:18] <RussM> jamrun9, You did an "lshw" and there wasn't anything labelled "*-cdrom" ?
[03:18] <jero> gbleezy i dont want to poop into your party, but does suspend work too?
[03:18] <Cpudan80> G-Bleezy: inspiron has pretty common stuff, no surprise there
[03:18] <KevDog> Cerrdor: lspci -C network
[03:18] <G-Bleezy> I tried Fedora, and Back Track...niether of those installed very easy....this CD just booted and installed like a charm
[03:19] <Cpudan80> Fedora shoulda been ok
[03:19] <jamrun9> unop: I was blind. and there was a lot of output, and I didn't catch that as I was reading past.
[03:19] <G-Bleezy> Fedora wouldn't boot...
[03:19] <nickrud> G-Bleezy, thanks for mentioning a nice install; we mostly hear about the busts :(
[03:19] <jamrun9> RussM: no, if I had grepped for that string, there would have been nothing
[03:19] <Cpudan80> interesting
[03:19] <jamrun9> but it's all good. thank you guys :)
[03:19] <Cpudan80> nickrud: yeah - they only yell and holler when stuff breaks ;-)
[03:19] <G-Bleezy> aw no way! I just burn the xubuntu cd and boot it up and install and it worked like a charm! I'm in love with my laptop again..
[03:20] <siropio> who knows how to fix my radio channels?
[03:20] <G-Bleezy> i havn't used it in like 8 months cause windows xp was so bogged on it..
[03:21] <progre55> hey everybody. why is it when I turn the custom effects on on ubuntu intrepid, my mplayer keeps blinking?
[03:21] <progre55> is there any solution to that?
[03:21] <G-Bleezy> so ya if there's a compatability list, add Dell Inspiron 8500 to the list... :)
[03:21] <zXstanyXz> since i dont *think* anyone replied first time... anyone think they would be able to help me with installing an ati driver?? every time i try the x-server wont start up after i restart the computer
[03:21] <ndogbosok> -0
[03:22] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: did you try the restricted drivers?
[03:22] <arvind_khadri> progre55: dont use efects at all :P :)
[03:22] <_VIM_> add Dell Demension  2400 to that list too (I know it's an Abacus, but it works flawlessly in Ubuntu)
[03:22] <G-Bleezy> oh wow...1326 people in here? i think thats the most people i ever seen in one chan...thats crazy..
[03:22] <zXstanyXz> yeps, thats the ones that crash the x-server arvind_khadri
[03:22] <progre55> arvind_khadri, does it mean there's no solution to that? :)
[03:23] <Cpudan80> G-Bleezy: Its a big channel ;-)
[03:23] <arvind_khadri> progre55: not that i know of... check the forums once
[03:23] <G-Bleezy> _VIM_: ya my Inspiron is like 6 years old too i think...
[03:23] <_VIM_> abacus's FTW! :)
[03:23] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: hmm , so which ones are you using now? the one from their site?
[03:23] <progre55> arvind_khadri, well, there are more than a 1000 people here.. at least one should know I hope )
[03:23] <jero> zXstanyXz - you installed the newest or the drivers available from the repos?
[03:24] <G-Bleezy> Cpudan80: ya only time i seen more people i think is some kind of take over on efnet
[03:24] <arvind_khadri> progre55: sure :) hang out
[03:24] <zXstanyXz> actually both the restricted and the one in the repository crash it...currently using, ermmm, whatever the default was when i installed ubuntu... doesnt work very well since half the colours are fucked up... i thik it's running at 8bit colour atm arvind_khadri
[03:25] <_VIM_> !ohmy | zXstanyXz
[03:25] <arvind_khadri> !language | zXstanyXz
[03:25] <Luxmux> HI all ive a Problem with my mplayer.. it does not work for videos.. i dont know why.. vlc, Movieplayer, kaffeien work just fine... ive a Radeon x1950xt with prop. Driver installed... when i try to play a vid mplayer is giving me the following: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/394040/
[03:25] <zXstanyXz> oopsies, my bad
[03:25] <progre55> arvind_khadri, can you suggest me any nice theme for intrepid? :)
[03:25] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: hmm... crash x-server in ?
[03:26] <arvind_khadri> progre55: gnome-look.org has got tons of them
[03:26] <progre55> thansk man )
[03:26] <arvind_khadri> progre55: i installed ibex today :)
[03:26] <zXstanyXz> what you mean in arvind_khadri?
[03:27] <jero> zXstanyXz - my success with this ati mobility 9600 was just installing 8.04 ubuntu, which had 3d acceleration work straight for some stuff like openarena , but no compiz. Then i just clicked on the enable proprietary driver under hardware, and had the full fglxr acceleration going after a sudo aticonfig --initial -f . So i got full acceleration including compiz with just 1 click.
[03:27] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: when you say the drivers crash X what do you mean by that?? you dont get the resolutions thats it?
[03:27] <jero> zXstanyXz - if you bothered with the newest drivers of the ati site, i am not suprised you ran into issues. I could get their newest beta 9.2 to work however. But then it would crash randomly on my ATI card
[03:27] <Cody> This is my setup: Computer>Router>Internet , I need the setup to be Computer>router>router>Internet. How do i do that?
[03:28] <malibu> RussM: No, not for VM Server 2.. The web console is it.  I got minimenu for Firefox and put it on the same line as my address bar
[03:28] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: so now what do you want when you have it working?
[03:28] <zXstanyXz> when i restart the computer the x-server crashes when trying to start up and i have to switch to the console to log in and reboot the computer.. arvind_khadri
[03:28] <malibu> RussM: The console doesn't work with Chrome, unfortunately.  Google's fault, not VMWare's
[03:29] <zXstanyXz> jero my card is an asus ati radeon HD4850 and trying to use either the newest drivers from the site or the drivers in the ubuntu repository
[03:29] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: hmmm look into the xorg.conf file and check out which drivers its using.... i dont know the module name properly but must be ati ...
[03:29] <kingtut> can any body tell me what packages i need download to play regular dvd
[03:30] <Cody> This is my setup: Computer>Router>Internet , I need the setup to be Computer>router>router>Internet. How do i do that?
[03:30] <MeVsTheVoices> arvind_khadri: fglrx
[03:30] <Cpudan80> !dvd | kingtut
[03:30] <arvind_khadri> !dvd | kingtut
[03:30] <joshjtl> what are we supposed to use as a startup manager (choose apps to start at boot or gnome start) ?
[03:30] <arvind_khadri> MeVsTheVoices: thanks :)
[03:30] <Cody> kingtut:  It should already be downloaded
[03:30] <tavo> I've got a doubt. can be build drivers for linux from those for windows? I'm talking about wireless. OR would be better using ndiswrapper????
[03:30] <jero> zXstanyXz as you are messing around with ati drivers, you might as well try the newest 9.2 beta. might work for you
[03:30] <Cody> kingtut:  Called movie player.
[03:30] <MeVsTheVoices> Cody: Totem
[03:30] <Cpudan80> kingtut: It might all be in ubuntu-restricted-extras (sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras)
[03:31] <Cody> MeVsTheVoices:  Whats totem?
[03:31] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: look into the xorg.conf file for fglrx
[03:31] <G-Bleezy> so should look for .deb installs when installing software for ubuntu right? and what is YUM?
[03:31] <MeVsTheVoices> Cody: The real name for movie player
[03:31] <Cody> Okay ty.
[03:31] <Cpudan80> a quite crappy movie player
[03:31] <Cpudan80> use VLC
[03:31] <Cody> Yes n deed.
[03:31] <cphillips>  /join #ubuntu-us-oh
[03:31] <arvind_khadri> G-Bleezy: install only from the repos...
[03:31] <MeVsTheVoices> G-Bleezy: You should look for .deb, YUM is for different distros, same idea, different format
[03:32] <zXstanyXz> atm i know its not there arvind_khadri cos xfix removes it from there when i recover my install
[03:32] <kingtut> i am useing vlc player and keffeine player
[03:32] <G-Bleezy> k...i was just installing flash plugin and it gave me 5 options..
[03:32] <G-Bleezy> i'll go with .deb Ubuntu +8.03
[03:32] <brian____> Cpudan80: why does everyone recommend VLC over mplayer?
[03:33] <Cpudan80> brian____: because VLC plays everything and doesnt complain
[03:33] <kitche> brian____: because not everyone does I recommand mplayer over VLC to a point
[03:33] <G-Bleezy> hey wait...what do you open .deb's with?
[03:33] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: seems like you dont have enough luck with fglrx .... after you recover your install is it possible for you to have accelarated graphics?
[03:33] <kitche> Cpudan80: yes maybe back in 1998 VLC was like that
[03:33] <Cpudan80> brian____: plus it has ports for mac/windows so you can use it anywhere
[03:33] <lstarnes> G-Bleezy: dpkg -i
[03:33] <Cpudan80> kitche: It still is ...
[03:33] <zXstanyXz> nopes arvind_khadri, not that i know of
[03:33] <G-Bleezy> k
[03:33] <MeVsTheVoices> brian_: Faster older, more formats supported, larger base, more bug reports, faste bug fix time, faster buffer rate, easy transcoding, ncurses interface, multi-platform mozilla plugin, need more?
[03:33] <arvind_khadri> G-Bleezy: you can double-click on then...gdebi handles them...or from cli dpkg -i
[03:34] <Cpudan80> kitche: or well, it comes prepacked with virtually everything you need to run anything common
[03:34] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: did you try googling about your issue...the forums?
[03:34] <brian____> HeVsTheVoices: guess I'll have to look at it again.
[03:35] <Kephu> Hi, can anyone point me to a reasonable method of ripping dvds on ubuntu?
[03:35] <Cody> Can anyone tell me how to connect a router to a router?
[03:35] <Cody> Kephu:  Brasero?
[03:35] <zXstanyXz> jero theres no 9.2beta listed on the download page for my card
[03:36] <Kephu> Cody, does it do transcoding to avi with defined parameters, such as size and audio format?
[03:36] <Cody> Kephu:  Beyond my limits. One day ill be able to answer that
[03:36] <Cody> Sorry
[03:36] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: the beta versions are unstable....
[03:37] <kephu> sorry, got disconnected accidentally
[03:37] <Cody> Can anyone tell me how to connect a wireless router to a wireless router.
[03:37] <Cody> kephu, no sorry thats beyond my limits.
[03:37] <kephu> so, can anyone recommend me a dvd ripper kit?
[03:37] <kephu> Cody, wirelessly or via cable?
[03:38] <Cody> Wirelessly.
[03:38] <zXstanyXz> lol,i know arvind_khadri, but it cant be any worse than what i have atm :p
[03:38] <G-Bleezy> so i double click this .deb i just downloaded and it wants me to choose an application to open the file with...
[03:38] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: maybe you can try envyng
[03:38] <kephu> just to make sure, Cody, why would you do that?
[03:39] <arvind_khadri> G-Bleezy: it should open with g-debi
[03:39] <Cody> Because my computer connects to a router to the internet and i need it to be computer router router internet.
[03:39] <zXstanyXz> envying?
[03:39] <arvind_khadri> !envng | zXstanyXz
[03:39] <arvind_khadri> !envyng > zXstanyXz
[03:40] <Cody> kephu:  Can you help?
[03:41] <kephu> Cody, I'm not sure if I understand correctly. So, basically, you have two routers?
[03:41] <G-Bleezy> where is gdebi on my hdd?
[03:42] <zXstanyXz> im checking one other thing first but then i'll prolly try that arvind_khadri
[03:42] <Cody> I have 1 router downstairs.  Now i have my xbox 360 upstairs , and i want to get on live. I cant connect by plugging an thernet cord into my computer from the xbox but it will connect when i plug the xbox into a router. So i want a second router in my room.
[03:42] <arvind_khadri> G-Bleezy: btw why are you using a .deb downloaded from somewhere....which application is that?
[03:43] <Cody> Can anyone help me acheive that?^^^^
[03:43] <arvind_khadri> zXstanyXz: ok
[03:43] <giaco> hello
[03:43] <zXstanyXz> grrrr, the asus site has winblows drivers only
[03:43] <giaco> how can I change the "default text editor" when double clicking on a file?
[03:44] <G-Bleezy> downloading flash plugin for firefox with firefox
[03:44] <arvind_khadri> G-Bleezy: use flashplugin-nonfree
[03:44] <SiVA_> I have two different Dell laptops here. One has ubuntu 8.10 and one has kubuntu 8.10. I have tried 3 or 4 different movie DVDs and NONE work
[03:44] <G-Bleezy> what is that
[03:44] <SiVA_> I've tried using Totem, Gnome movie player, Mplayer, and the kde one
[03:45] <arvind_khadri> G-Bleezy: as in, open the terminal and type sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:45] <SiVA_> 4 different video programs, two different distributions and 4 different DVDs. All the dvds work in my tv
[03:45] <kshadow> SiVA_: You have libdvdread, or whatever it is?
[03:45] <arvind_khadri> G-Bleezy: its the flash plugin you wanted... its there in the repo's ...
[03:45] <SiVA_> kshadow not sure