[00:00] <Typos_King> heard of midori?
[00:00] <ultraputz> yup :-)
[00:00] <ultraputz> testran that for a while
[00:00] <ultraputz> nice rendering... i like my draggable bookmarks. :-)
[00:00] <Typos_King> not sure on the js part, but uses webkit
[00:01] <Typos_King> draggable bookmarks...hehhe, I can do that on any browser pretty much
[00:01] <Typos_King> there's nothing exotic about that
[00:01] <ultraputz> kind of curious to hear a curmudgeonly old kde guerilla school me on the whole webkit relationship to khtml, and what that has to do with where konq vs. safari is at...
[00:02] <ultraputz> i mean, being able to drag, organize my toolbar menus, etc.
[00:02] <ultraputz> a sort of "web desktop" -ish feature that is separate from the rest of the desktop.
[00:02] <Typos_King> meh, I can all that in opera
[00:03] <ultraputz> i'm gonna give o10 a try on your suggestion
[00:03] <Typos_King> detach tabs, retach, swap tabs between windows, move/drag buttons anywhere, add/remove sidepanels
[00:03] <ultraputz> have you ever used omniweb on the mac ?
[00:03] <Typos_King> no macOSX here :|
[00:03] <ultraputz> _that_ is what a browser is supposed to be.
[00:04] <Noeve> Typos_King, it's clashing with the default network manager. I get "Could not acquire the NetworkManagerUserSettings service as it is already taken." Could you give me a hand ?
[00:04] <ultraputz> it's still on the desk at work, but this is a pure penguin house now.
[00:04] <Typos_King> Noeve:    are you running 'nm-panel'?
[00:04] <Noeve> Nope. Let me try that.
[00:05] <Noeve> Not installed. What's the package name ?
[00:05] <Typos_King> ultraputz:   not sure on omniweb, but one thing that's different in opera, is that all tabs in the same window use the window as the workspace, so you can minimize/restore/move/drag/resize all within the confiines of the window they're
[00:06] <Typos_King> Noeve:     network-manager-gnome
[00:06] <Noeve> I've installed that, yes. nm-panel returns "command not found" though.
[00:06] <ultraputz> omniweb had tabs before anyone else -- and it's tabs are either tabs, or previews, depending on a draggable setting, and it's in a tray that is only open when the browser is focused, etc.
[00:06] <Typos_King> Noeve   hehhe, you installed that but 'command not found'? hehe
[00:06] <ultraputz> that can be drag-reordered, popped out to windows, and back into tabs, etc.
[00:07] <Typos_King> Noeve:   ack... is 'nm-applet'   my bad :{
[00:07] <Noeve> Typos_King, nm-applet returns the error I gave you - could not acquire the service.
[00:07] <Noeve> If I understand correctly, KDE's default network manager is hogging the service, but I'm not sure how to fix that.
[00:08] <ultraputz> that should depend on which environment you bring up...
[00:08] <Typos_King> ultraputz:   yep, same in opera, you can move them between windows or detach/retach them, when you hover a tab, you also have a choice of 'quick preview' too on a thumbnail, though I have that off
[00:09] <Noeve> ultraputz, if that was directed at me, this is a fresh install of Kubuntu.
[00:09] <ultraputz> this stuff was introduced in omniweb around 2000 -- it's since not quite as far ahead or as impressive in comparison -- but it's taken browsers generally about 7 years to catch up to it.
[00:09] <ultraputz> Noeve -- did you install gnome after the fact?
[00:09] <raj>  GUYS i HAVE finally completed my AUDIO FIX post on the forums. if any of you are having problems with the sound. follow the steps in this link: you can thank me later :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8789064   3 STEPS are provided try them and see if any works for you:)
[00:09] <Typos_King> Noeve.... try killing    knetworkmanager  ->  sudo killall `pidof knetworkmanager`; and retry
[00:10] <ultraputz> Typos_King: ( has pictures: http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omniweb/ )
[00:10] <Noeve> ultraputz, no, I don't want Gnome, or I would have installed Ubuntu :P I just want the Gnome network manager because the default one doesn't work, and a few forum entries suggest Gnome's is better.
[00:10] <ultraputz> are you on a laptop using wireless?
[00:10] <Noeve> Yes.
[00:10] <ultraputz> using kernal .19 ?
[00:11] <Noeve> I downloaded Kubuntu an hour ago. I didn't check the kernel. :P
[00:11] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Noeve, have you considered wicd ?
[00:11] <ultraputz> there's a bug...
[00:11] <Noeve> Typos_King, no processes found.
[00:11] <Noeve> BluesKaj-Laptop, I came across it as a possible backend in the settings somewhere. You recommend I try that ?
[00:11] <ultraputz> it's hit my laptop,  and searching on it -- others too...
[00:11] <ultraputz> have to boot using kernal .14
[00:11] <ultraputz> something in .19 borks wifi for some people.
[00:11] <ultraputz> can't remember the specifics
[00:12] <Typos_King> heh
[00:12] <Typos_King> Noeve    latest I think is 2.6.34 anyhow :P
[00:12] <Noeve> ultraputz, aaaaah, reasons why I dropped Linux :P
[00:12] <ultraputz> what's the change?
[00:12] <Typos_King> Noeve:  it doesn't show an icon on the tray?
[00:12] <Noeve> Typos_King, there's an icon, the default KDE one, I think it's called KNetworkManager.
[00:13] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Noeve, depends on your wifi card , but I'm on karmic atm, network manager only  worked for 24 hrs on this laptop so I switched
[00:13] <ultraputz> Noeve: i want to run opensolaris, but the project looks to be in trouble.
[00:13] <raj> hey guys what do you use instead of gedit in kubuntu?
[00:13] <Typos_King> Noeve:   can you right-click it and close it?
[00:13] <Noeve> But it just doesn't connect correctly. It doesn't get past "Activating"
[00:13] <ultraputz> what are you rocking?
[00:13] <Noeve> BluesKaj-Laptop, bah :(
[00:13] <BluesKaj-Laptop> !info wicd  | Noeve
[00:13] <Typos_King> raj:    Geany is pretty good, and small enough, for quickies
[00:13] <Noeve> Typos_King, no, I can't just close it with a right-click :P
[00:14] <ultraputz> raj: second Typos_King on that. :-)
[00:14] <Typos_King> raj:    depends what you need the editor for of course, if it's for programming, there are others :)
[00:14] <raj> typos_king i mean by default i cant remember what kubuntu uses instead of gedit?
[00:14] <ultraputz> Kate
[00:14] <raj> thx
[00:14] <Typos_King> raj:  kate
[00:14] <Typos_King> but geany has a lighter overhead
[00:14] <Noeve> Currently "Configuring interface" on mouseover, and "Activating" on click, but it gets no further.
[00:14] <raj> i am editing a post for kubuntu / xubuntu and ubuntu .. so every1 can use it :)
[00:14]  * ultraputz still uses emacs.
[00:15] <ultraputz> noeve -- are you able to bring up the wireless interface through shell ?
[00:15] <Typos_King> Noeve:     how about ... open Konsole... and type ->sudo killall `pidof knetworkmanager`
[00:15] <ultraputz> iwconfig ?
[00:15] <Noeve> BluesKaj-Laptop, switched to wicd backend, no avail. Same problem.
[00:15] <ultraputz> Noeve: try to bring it up manually?
[00:16] <ultraputz> see if something lower down is pissing it off?
[00:16] <Noeve> ultraputz, it's found the adaptor on wlan0
[00:16] <ultraputz> can you bring up a connection?
[00:16] <Noeve> I'm not sure how.
[00:16] <Typos_King> hehe
[00:16] <ultraputz> what os ?
[00:16] <Noeve> Koala.
[00:16] <ultraputz> debian / gnu --
[00:17] <ultraputz> ok
[00:17] <Typos_King> koala meaning,  9.1
[00:17] <ultraputz> try iwconfig
[00:17] <Noeve> Yep.
[00:17] <Typos_King> hehe, karmic koala :P
[00:17] <Noeve> Awesome name :P
[00:17] <ultraputz> and then do something like: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[00:17] <ultraputz> you might wanna double check the syntax with "man ifconfig" first :-)
[00:17] <Typos_King> tis correct
[00:17] <Typos_King> or   sudo ip link set wlan0 up;
[00:17] <ultraputz> you and your fancy ip.
[00:18] <ultraputz> damn kids, get off my lawn.
[00:18] <Noeve> It's up, but it's almost like the password is incorrect.
[00:18] <ultraputz> ok, now do: dmesg | tail -100 | less
[00:18] <ultraputz> and see why :-)
[00:18] <ultraputz> ('q' to drop out of less.)
[00:18] <Typos_King> Noeve   I've heard of issues with knetworkmanager before.... usually in 9.1..... which nm-applet doesn't have, so.... I use nm-applet :)
[00:19] <Noeve> Typos_King, that's what I've been asking about ! :P
[00:19] <Typos_King> Noeve.... sooooo nm-applet running?
[00:19] <Noeve> I want to get nm-applet but it won't let me run it because the service is taken by the default network thing.
[00:19]  * ultraputz , through brute force and force of will... subdued his problem... by using an older kernal.
[00:19] <Typos_King> ...
[00:19] <ultraputz> ok, so to figure out where it's hiding
[00:20] <Typos_King> Noeve......  can you install something... I guess you can... try installing -> sudo apt-get install qps
[00:20] <ultraputz> probably start with settings > advanced > autostarted-ish whatever
[00:20] <Typos_King> Noeve:     qps is a visual process manager, will shows if knetworkmanager is running and you can kill it fromt here, also will show if nm-applet is too
[00:20] <ultraputz> and Typos_King and I will try to confuse you as much as possible by following two disparate lines of analysis ... :-)
[00:21] <Typos_King> heheh
[00:21] <Noeve> I'll head downstairs and install qps then. ultraputz, I'd already checked there, there's nothing suspicious :P
[00:21] <ultraputz> Typos_King: it may be set to auto-restart...
[00:21] <ultraputz> which could make this fun
[00:21] <Noeve> There's only a script file running gtk2
[00:21] <Typos_King> ultraputz:   it's, if you boot to kde wm, yes,  doesn't mean you can't kill it
[00:21] <ultraputz> it doesn't bounce back?
[00:21] <Typos_King> nope
[00:22] <Typos_King> is not a daemon
[00:22] <ultraputz> aha. excellent.
[00:22] <ultraputz> so does anyone here know what the plus and minus toggle icon that appears above icons in widget folder view are about?
[00:22] <Poyntz> ey. is there a way to backup annotations stored for okular in PDF files?
[00:23] <keon> hola como estan?
[00:23] <ultraputz> do the anotations stay if you duplicate the file ?
[00:23] <Typos_King> Poyntz:   ...dunno.... I'd think not, I'd think okular...... has them stashed for its own use
[00:23] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Noeve, try this in the cli , sudo dhclient wlan0 ...pastebin the output if it's more than 2 lines
[00:25] <Poyntz> Typos_King: gah. see the thing is I wanna dual boot with win7 but I fun wanna risk losin the annotations in kde wen I partition the drives. there's months o stuff in there
[00:25] <ultraputz> Poyntz: start by searching out where it keeps that
[00:25] <ultraputz> if its' metadata, it's a file or a database file...
[00:26] <Poyntz> ultraputz: I'm a guy that can't even get openvpn workin :/
[00:26] <ultraputz> Poyntz: http://okular.kde.org/faq.php#HowcanIannotateadocumentandsendittoafriendcollegueetc
[00:27] <Poyntz> ultraputz: thanks man. heaps appreciated!
[00:27] <Noeve> Typos_King, qps found knetworkmanager, I killed it, ran nm-applet, and am connected to the internet via wireless.
[00:28] <Noeve> Would you mind giving me a hand in making this the default network manager ?
[00:28] <Typos_King> ... ahe.... well.....
[00:29] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Noeve, I wish you luck , hope mn works for you tomorrow
[00:29] <Noeve> BluesKaj-Laptop, thanks :P
[00:29] <BluesKaj-Laptop> :)
[00:30] <BluesKaj-Laptop> or is it nm
[00:30] <ultraputz> Noeve: http://forums.opensuse.org/network-internet/wireless/427611-dummy-guide-replacing-knetworkmanager.html
[00:30] <Noeve> ultraputz, thanks !
[00:31] <Typos_King> heh nm :)
[00:31] <Poyntz> ultraputz: just tried on a file but it didn't save the annotations. I exported as "document archive" for okular but yaa when I opened the new .okular file it just contained the original PDF
[00:31] <Typos_King> Noeve:      I think.... kde uses.... you'd need to check in systemsettings...... I think it might be under Advanced > service manager
[00:32] <Typos_King> Noeve:    and I think kde wm uses  ~/.kde/Autostart    folder for any apps to load at startup
[00:32] <ultraputz> Poyntz: hrm. did you try looking at the document itself in kate or something to see if you recognized annotations in it?
[00:32] <ultraputz> maybe you have to set something to "include annotations" ?
[00:34] <Typos_King> Poyntz   are you trying to 'keep' the annotations 'in the pdf' file or just to have them available from okular only?
[00:34] <Poyntz> the latter
[00:36] <Typos_King> Poyntz:    I assume you're not saving okular configurations.....   I think kde apps use 2 sections to keep configurations     ~/.kde/share/config and ~/.kde/share/apps
[00:36] <Noeve> ultraputz, that guide is a little... incomplete, but also ineffective. :P
[00:37] <Typos_King> Poyntz:      in ~/.kde/share/config you'd find an rc file .....like okularrc   or so, in ~/.kde/share/apps they usually use a folder, and there's where the 'user's settings are
[00:37] <Noeve> Trying another.
[00:37] <Poyntz> ultraputz: i think it mighta saved the most recent annotations but the ones i made the other day dont seem t b there. I checked thr original file as well tho n try dont seem to be in that either.. Strange
[00:37] <Poyntz> Nonetheless i think annotations are effectively saving in the .okular file so thanks!
[00:38] <Typos_King> hehe
[00:38] <Poyntz> *try = they
[00:38] <ultraputz> Poyntz: no idea ... it may be broken..
[00:39] <Typos_King> Poyntz:    there's an editor for pdf's you know, tis in the repositories, pdfedit
[00:40] <Poyntz> yaa I don't need to edit tho :p. just annotate. ty tho
[00:41] <Poyntz> also dragon player doesn't work n power management shuts my laptop off afta 30seconds without AC connected
[00:42] <Poyntz> power management also won't let me change brightness levels like it claims (but I can do that wit the keys so it isn't a significant issue)
[00:42] <Poyntz> the fact that it shuts off my comp afta 30secs on battery is annoying tho
[00:43] <Poyntz> sorry I mean 'hibernates my comp', not 'shuts it down'
[00:44] <Typos_King> Poyntz:    dunn on dragon player.... didn't work for me, but I think is due to libraries, it seem to need some for playback, I use Xine-ui, after I installed xine-ui, dragonplayer now plays hehe
[00:44] <ultraputz> man. one major strike against KDE is -- it really makes the sound subsystem mad.
[00:44] <Typos_King> though I prefer xine-ui, much less overhead and comes with a heap of codecs
[00:44] <ultraputz> this was an ubuntu installation with kde added later...
[00:45] <Typos_King> mad?
[00:45] <ultraputz> "this device is offline"
[00:45] <ultraputz> two instances of vlc cannot play at the same time. or sometimes they can.
[00:45] <Poyntz> Typos_King: I tried both backends with it to no avail :/. When I use one of them it still plays the audio but it shows no vid
[00:45] <ultraputz> flash video play randomly cannot play audio. then it can.
[00:46] <Typos_King> Poyntz      a dvd?   you mean, you installed xine-ui?
[00:46] <ultraputz> that sentence did not parse well: flash videos play, but the audio randomly might, or might not.
[00:46] <Poyntz> ultraputz: and yes. I originally had ubuntu n installed kubuntu-desktop on top o it. thing is I've don't a fair few updates since doing it n I'd b surprised if the majority of my OS isn't kde n not gnome now
[00:46] <ultraputz> it behaves really well after it's restarted, but after about 2-3 hours, something flips out.
[00:47] <ultraputz> it updates all installed packages, runs their installation scripts...
[00:47] <Typos_King> ultraputz:   ... not sure if it's kde.... may just be a libflashplayer.so  plugin issue, I can play .flv files in xine-ui just fine, and also in opera embedded
[00:47] <ultraputz> it's not whether or not it plays...
[00:47] <ultraputz> notifications about the sound card becoming unavailable...
[00:48] <ultraputz> i could go into the  system audio settings, re-assert the card, and things would be fine.
[00:48] <Poyntz> Typos_King: I installed everything that seemed relevant relating to xine in kpackagekit including the package you mentioned. as for DVDs , it's the rare thing that dragonplayer actually does play lol
[00:48] <ultraputz> and by card, i mean the boring audio hardware in a 7 year old well supported compaq laptop :-)
[00:48] <Typos_King> heheh
[00:48] <ultraputz> which, additionally, i should add -- works flawlessly under gnome and xfce.
[00:48] <Typos_King> Poyntz:    so... what is not playing?
[00:49] <Perf> Got a ?
[00:49] <Poyntz> Typos_King: any movie media files, anything I click on won't play. Only audio but no vid
[00:50] <Poyntz> DVDs only work when dragon player opens them up on launch
[00:50] <Perf> How do do file association for downloaded file...like pdf"s or word docs
[00:50] <Poyntz> I can't open dragon player n attempt to direct it to the DVD bc it won't play it
[00:51] <Typos_King> Poyntz:   check for plugins... under ....  /usr/lib/xine/plugins
[00:52] <Poyntz> Perf: right click the file, select 'open with' and choose the appropriate file from the list
[00:53] <Poyntz> *appropriate program from the list
[00:53] <Typos_King> Perf:    usually... .depends on the browser, each have their own options for that, but usually is better, for pdf and docs, just dl :)
[00:53] <Typos_King> Poyntz:   I thought you said dragonplayer played dvd hehe
[00:54] <Poyntz> Typos_King: two folders- 1.25 n 1.26
[00:54] <Poyntz> Typos_King: in that directory that is
[00:54] <Noeve> How do I view daemons so I can disable one on boot ?
[00:54] <Typos_King> Poyntz:   2 folders.... hehe... why..2?   seems to have been a double-install.... any .so files in them?
[00:55] <Perf> been running ubuntu for a year and always had problems getting to the programs directory for file association
[00:55] <Perf> where do you find the programs directory
[00:55] <Poyntz> Typos_King: it does lol. It plays as the default player for DVDs
[00:55] <Typos_King> Noeve:    systemsettings > advanced > services;   usually
[00:55] <Perf> yes i am a windows user....boooo
[00:55] <Noeve> Typos_King, it's not appearing there. I'll ask in #ubuntu.
[00:56] <Poyntz> Perf: System Settings -> Default Applications
[00:56] <Perf> thankyou very much all
[00:57] <Poyntz> Typos_King: yaaa. both are full of .so files
[00:57] <Poyntz> actually wrong
[00:57] <Typos_King> Poyntz:    and .. you said that xine-ui doesn't play dvd? or doesn't play which media?
[00:57] <Poyntz> 1.26 only has one .so ole
[00:57] <Poyntz> *file
[00:58] <Typos_King> Poyntz:  and 1.25?
[00:59] <Poyntz> Perf: soz man. the apps directory will b /usr/bin
[00:59] <Poyntz> but if ya wanna configure default apps use the program I said
[01:00] <Poyntz> else go to the extension n select open with from the menu then choose a defaul program n check the box that says set as default
[01:01] <Perf> that's it thankyou
[01:04] <Poyntz> Typos_King: dragon only plays DVDs but it doesn't play .avi .mp4a .mov .fv etc...
[01:05] <Poyntz> as in it won't play any media file type that isn't audio
[01:05] <Poyntz> except it will play the audio for any media file type
[01:05] <Poyntz> just not the video
[01:05] <Poyntz> excluding DVDs where it plays both audio n video :p
[01:05] <Typos_King> and xine-ui?
[01:06] <genii> !codecs
[01:06] <Typos_King> can it play .flv or m4v?
[01:06] <Poyntz> Typos_King: also 1.25 is full of .so files that start with xineplug_
[01:07] <Typos_King> Poyntz:   right, those ARE the codecs, or decompressors
[01:07] <Typos_King> so, that means it'll play in xine-ui
[01:08] <Typos_King> Poyntz:   as far as dragonplayer... you can try the urls genii just pasted, to get the codecs for it, system wide
[01:08] <Typos_King> as I said.... I usually just use xine-ui hehe, I have since.... way back, nicer skin and overhead
[01:10] <Poyntz> Typos_King: hmm it's hard t say where the issue comes from. VLC and mplayer (the only other video players I have) dot use the kde system backends
[01:11] <Poyntz> n vids play fine on mplayer (with a few freeze bugs but yaa- offtopic cause it ain't kde related)
[01:11] <Typos_King> and xine? ehehhe
[01:11] <Typos_King> do they play?
[01:11] <kubian> dragon plays .flv
[01:11] <Typos_King> Poyntz:   as far as dragonplayer... you can try the urls genii just pasted, to get the codecs for it, system wide
[01:13] <Poyntz> kubian: it might fo you, not for me ;)
[01:13] <Typos_King> Poyntz:   what you have, as genii pointed out, is just missing codecs either system wide what dragonplayer can use, or specific for it, as you can see, those xineplug_...so...ared the codecs that xine uses, for me it plays a heapload of formats
[01:14] <Poyntz> Typos_King: just tried xine, it plays videos :)
[01:14] <kubian> dragon also plays MPEG file
[01:15] <Poyntz> Typos_King: sorry about bein slow to reply to ya messages.  So it takes a while for me t see ya messages
[01:19] <kubian> 4.4.1 on karmic looks great..thanks a lot guys for the efforts..
[01:44] <ubuntu> jk;
[01:45] <kemg> just loaded this on Piii new user
[01:46] <kemg> where can i get rpn calculator app
[01:48] <kemg> bye
[01:49] <genii> rpn calculator?
[01:49] <Ezros_> Does anyone know what is happening when my computer screen turns blank from idling
[01:49] <Ezros_> and just prompts a flashing underscore.
[01:53] <Ezros_> It says that it suspends to ram
[01:53] <Ezros_> But Idk how to get it back from ram
[01:53] <Ezros_> lol
[03:01] <v1ttu> why does kpackagekit tell me i no longer have the priviledge to install software after upgrading to 4.4.1?
[03:10] <genii> v1ttu: Perhaps you haven't rebooted yet to the new kernel
[03:12] <v1ttu> i have
[03:12] <v1ttu> i rebooted to try to see if it went away
[03:12] <v1ttu> it doesnt =/
[03:52] <davep> just tried to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10. failed because of some dependencies. im in the recovery menu atm
[03:52] <davep> what does the dpkg (repair broken packages) option actually run?
[03:53] <davep> i need to get a console first so i can get the wireless working
[03:59] <davep> hmm. its not letting me uninstall nvidia glx packages (im not using nvidia anymore) because the install script attempts to overwrite libGL with old backed up versions
[04:03] <v1ttu> just do a fresh install
[04:03] <v1ttu> upgrading breaks the system about 30% of the time =/
[04:13] <davep> i hate linux error messages :( they dont make any sense
[04:13] <davep> unable to create './usr/lib32/libGL.so.1.2' no such file or directory
[04:13] <davep> that file is definitely there.
[04:13] <davep> removing it...make no difference
[04:14] <davep> and why should a file not being there make it impossible to create a new file
[04:14] <davep> this is BACKWARDS >:|
[04:15] <KDesk> Has someone installed KDE 4.4.1 from PPA, are the packages working fine?
[04:16] <davep> i removed the offending package
[04:16] <davep> and it launches straight into the upgrade again
[04:16] <davep> wtf.
[04:16] <davep> why cant it just do what i tell it to do?
[04:20] <v1ttu> i wouldnt kdesk
[04:20] <v1ttu> it has nuked kpackagekit
[04:21] <KDesk> thanks for the info v1ttu!
[04:22] <KDesk> v1ttu: you did only see that issue?
[04:24] <v1ttu> so far yeah
[04:38] <albertolempira> hey guys when i'm starting kubuntu plasma takes too long to start up, anyone know what could be happening? thanks
[04:41] <KDesk> albertolempira: myabe your plasma config files are broken. you can move them, or remove them.  rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma*
[04:42] <KDesk> albertolempira: then you have to restart palasma, or log out and login again
[04:45] <albertolempira> KDesk ok, i'm gonna try that because is really annoying... thanks... brb
[04:45] <KDesk> albertolempira: I hope it works
[04:48] <albertolempira> KDesk: ok, i did it, so now i'm rebooting to check its fine, thanks again, brb.
[04:48] <KDesk> albertolempira: no need to reboot
[04:48] <KDesk> albertolempira: only logout and re login again, or  kquitapp plasma-desktop
[04:49] <KDesk> albertolempira: and start it by: plasma-desktop
[04:52] <alberto_> KDesk: it worked! thank you!
[04:52] <KDesk> alberto_ :-)
[04:56] <v1ttu> does anyone know how well wow works with wine on intel?
[04:59] <genii> !appdb | v1ttu
[04:59] <v1ttu> is the wine channel on freenode?
[05:00] <v1ttu> nvm lol
[05:00] <v1ttu> nvm thanks lol***
[05:14] <davep> somehow i have an upgraded system thats working
[05:21] <jayq330> coould someone help i just installed kubuntu 64 and ati driver wont activate
[05:22] <v1ttu> what hardware do you have?
[05:22] <jayq330> 780 g
[05:22] <jayq330> hd 4200 radeon
[05:23] <v1ttu> should work
[05:23] <v1ttu> what version of kubuntu are you using?
[05:23] <jayq330> i downloaded an ati driver 10-2
[05:23] <v1ttu> ohhh
[05:23] <v1ttu> downloaded driver
[05:23] <v1ttu> do you know how to install it?
[05:23] <jayq330> no i downloaded it but i didnt install it
[05:24] <jayq330> i dont know how
[05:24] <v1ttu> have you installed anything through jockey?
[05:24] <jayq330> im brand new to linux
[05:24] <v1ttu> i see
[05:24] <v1ttu> ok
[05:24] <v1ttu> hold on
[05:24] <jayq330> k
[05:24] <genii> jayq330: I recommend reading closely instructions at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu
[05:25] <jayq330> ill read this and itll show me what to do right?
[05:25] <jayq330> no sound either
[05:26] <v1ttu> jayq330 check your irc channels:P
[05:26] <genii> jayq330: If you want to install the ati driver you downloaded from their site, use the instructions on the page I gave, they are fairly comprehensive
[06:16] <Guest51544> Hola
[06:17] <v1ttu> hola Guest51544 o/
[06:17] <Guest51544> que tal
[06:17] <genii> !es
[06:18] <Guest51544> Hola a todos
[06:18] <Guest51544> soy nuevo en este medio de Quassel,
[06:18] <Guest51544> en este chat
[06:19] <v1ttu> muy bien ggarsa
[06:19] <ggarsa> Saludos a todos desde la ciudad de México
[06:20] <ggarsa> que tal v1ttu
[06:20] <genii> Esta área está para el inglés exclusivamente. Viaje por favor al #ubuntu-es
[06:21] <ggarsa> Hi genni
[06:21] <genii> ggarsa: Hello
[06:22] <v1ttu> kerrata hiljaa ggarsa
[06:22] <ggarsa> what  did you said v1ttu?
[06:23] <ggarsa> wath means kerrata hijaa
[06:23] <ggarsa> ?
[06:23] <ggarsa> jejejejejeje
[06:23] <v1ttu> kerrata hiljaa** :P
[06:24] <genii> ggarsa and v1ttu - Please stay to english in this channel, or instead travel to the channel which is correct for your language
[06:25] <ggarsa> Way genni
[06:25] <ggarsa> genni, ¿Do you need to practice your english?
[06:25] <v1ttu> no niin genii... :P
[06:25] <v1ttu> okkkkk
[06:26] <v1ttu> i will obey master :3
[06:26] <genii> ggarsa: This channel is not to practise using english, it is for help with Kubuntu, given in english
[06:27] <ggarsa> ah
[06:27] <ggarsa> ok
[06:27] <ggarsa> I am sorry
[06:27] <ggarsa> thank you for your explanation
[06:27] <ggarsa> it's ok
[06:28]  * genii hands out mugs of coffee
[06:29] <ggarsa> ok, see you
[06:34] <CartoonCat> this is not fun: Radio Mobile Deluxe + Wine 1.1.39 = random X crash back to login. logs show nothing that would sugest whats going on
[06:35] <CartoonCat> any ideas about logging options to spot the issue
[06:35] <v1ttu> what the fudge is radio mobile deluxe?
[06:36] <CartoonCat> v1ttu: terrain and mapping software
[06:36] <smokenbless> any1 want to introduce me to the terminal cmd..... <------- very newb here, tx u
[06:37] <CartoonCat> rf link anylizer and propigation prediction, etc
[06:37] <v1ttu> 3d?
[06:37] <v1ttu> what kinda command smoken?
[06:38] <genii> CartoonCat: Sounds more like a WINE issue... did you ask in their channel yet?
[06:38] <CartoonCat> yea but doesnt use opengl, pure cpu cycles
[06:38] <v1ttu> it may be something else
[06:38] <v1ttu> did you upgrade xorg through xorg edgers anytime recently?
[06:38] <CartoonCat> genii: im not having the issue on any of a dozen other boxes, only the single kubuntu box
[06:39] <CartoonCat> its deff something kubuntu related, just not sure if its in how wine was compile, xorg, etc (all are stock kubuntu repo)
[06:39] <genii> !cli | smokenbless - maybe check out the link here to get started
[06:39] <smokenbless> vlttu: hmm.. lets see.... the basic n user stuff with the root thing.......
[06:40] <v1ttu> you havent updated xorg?
[06:40] <CartoonCat> im thinking ill manual compile in latest wine to test, but the same vers on others dont do it
[06:40] <CartoonCat> its the latest that the repos have
[06:40] <genii> CartoonCat: Is nvidia card?
[06:40] <CartoonCat> ati
[06:40] <genii> Hm
[06:40] <smokenbless> ok i was already reading.... guess ill read some more
[06:40] <smokenbless> tx
[06:41] <v1ttu> ati
[06:41] <v1ttu> thats probably the problem
[06:41] <v1ttu> what card is it?
[06:41] <CartoonCat> ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[06:41] <v1ttu> yup
[06:42] <v1ttu> thats the problem im guessing
[06:42] <CartoonCat> its not crashing any other apps
[06:42] <v1ttu> you're using 9.10 right?
[06:42] <CartoonCat> ya
[06:42] <v1ttu> this radio thing
[06:42] <v1ttu> it relies totally on cpu for rendering?
[06:43] <CartoonCat> yes
[06:43] <CartoonCat> it does not use 3d api's at all
[06:43] <v1ttu> hmmm
[06:44] <v1ttu> what hardware do the other machines have?
[06:44] <CartoonCat> varies from trident to intel to ati to nvidia
[06:44] <v1ttu> actual hardware?
[06:44] <CartoonCat> there might even be a sis in there but i will deny that till i die
[06:45] <CartoonCat> id have to go crack them open to get exact hardware
[06:45] <v1ttu> lolol fair enough
[06:45] <v1ttu> it may not be an ati problem then
[06:46] <CartoonCat> it could be, but i dont see how
[06:46] <CartoonCat> anything is possible with linux!!
[06:46] <CartoonCat> (for better or worse lol)
[06:46] <v1ttu> mhm, i havent used anything like that under wine before so i dunno
[06:46] <genii> CartoonCat: Have you tried running it yet with the wine debug on?
[06:46] <CartoonCat> well its easy to obtain and use ;-)
[06:46] <CartoonCat> genii: doh!  nope
[06:47] <v1ttu> the radio thing?
[06:48] <CartoonCat> v1ttu: ya, its a bit more then rocket science (easy) but way easier then brain surgery
[06:49] <v1ttu> ok 1) not my kinda thing, 2) im dumb. thanx anyway :P
[06:49] <CartoonCat> lol
[06:49] <CartoonCat> ok how aobut even blind monkies can run it? jajaja
[06:50] <CartoonCat> but, ill give winedbg a go and see what it says
[06:50] <genii> !info wine1.2-dbg
[06:51] <CartoonCat> yea done isntalled it and running the app
[06:51] <CartoonCat> the main problem is, i never know when it will go, could take weeks
[06:53] <CartoonCat> well, i can force it, but i think that is a bitness issue with wine so i dunno if it would be valid =\
[06:53] <CartoonCat> (using datasets over 4000 x 4000 cause it to lock and exit, but does NOT take out xorg with it)
[06:53] <genii> CartoonCat: If you think it's an X issue you can always also login to console only from kdm, kill kdm from there, then startx manually maybe with -v or -vv or so (I can't recall what options startx/X takes offhand)
[06:54] <genii> It will at least probably give you some kind of crash info
[06:54] <CartoonCat> genii: ah good idea, ill try that if winedbg doesnt give something
[06:54] <genii> Anyhoo... bedtime for me it's almost 2AM here
[06:55] <CartoonCat> genii: and im not sure if it IS a xorg issue, only that when it strikes it is ONLY with this app/wine and it just goes to a black screen then pops to the login
[06:55] <CartoonCat> ty genii, ttl
[06:56] <cvd> ?
[06:58] <cvd> how to clear the recently used?
[06:58] <cvd> from the menu?
[06:59] <hans> windows manager?
[06:59] <cvd> kbuntu default
[07:01] <hans> right click on kmenu > application manager
[07:01] <cvd> how to clear the recently used?ger
[07:01] <cvd> on kickoff
[07:01] <hans> right click on kmenu > application manager
[07:01] <cvd> like  i said no application manager appear
[07:01] <r00t_> how do i restart my audio system? I keep having a problem with my audio where my coputer will stop playing audio files unles i adjust the volume formthe keyboard,but this only fixes it for a min. restartingthe computer fixes the problems for a few hours so i figure if ir estart teh audio server? Deamon? im not sure what its called but i think i can just restart that to fix my problem
[07:03] <cvd> right click kickoff = menueditor,switch to clasic,application launcher settings
[07:03] <hans> on right click on the K you should ge ... yes
[07:04] <cvd> riht -click on thgee K = no application mana
[07:04] <r00t_> hans/cvd are you talking abuot my problem?
[07:04] <hans> didn't even know you had one :)
[07:04] <cvd> riht -click on the K = no application manager
[07:05] <r00t_> how do i restart my audio system? I keep having a problem with my audio where my coputer will stop playing audio files unles i adjust the volume formthe keyboard,but this only fixes it for a min. restartingthe computer fixes the problems for a few hours so i figure if ir estart teh audio server? Deamon? im not sure what its called but i think i can just restart that to fix my problem
[07:05] <hans> i get menu edito, application laucher settings, and unlock widgets
[07:07] <cvd> how to clear the recently-used from KIckOff Application launcher?
[07:07] <cvd> anoying
[07:08] <v1ttu> right click
[07:08] <hans> :)
[07:08] <v1ttu> it and select remove
[07:09] <r00t_> how can nobody know how to restart the audio server/deamon?
[07:10] <cvd> i don't thought of that :-S
[07:10] <cvd> thanks
[07:10] <cvd> v1ttu:
[07:11] <v1ttu> np bro o/
[07:11] <r00t_> Nevermind it was quite simple,im surpired nobody here knew the answer:   sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[07:12] <cvd> they pretent to know
[07:13] <hans> yes mr. idonotrightclick
[07:13] <v1ttu> wtf?
[07:14] <hans> !language
[07:14] <v1ttu> is that @ me?
[07:14] <hans> you do right click
[07:15] <r00t_> lsof | grep pcm or grep snd works as well.
[07:15] <r00t_> for teh next time some poor lost soul has to experiance the same crap i just went through
[07:16] <cvd> sorry easy offended = pretender
[07:16] <cvd> what the im writing, i think its time to sleep
[07:43] <Guest37417> hey guys i have a problem... my media sound doesn't work!!... the system sounds seem to work but media doesn't... i have installed the codecs in kubuntu 9.10 for audio and visual.... any help?
[07:45] <Guest37417> hey guys i have a problem... my media sound doesn't work!!... the system sounds seem to work but media doesn't... i have installed the codecs in kubuntu 9.10 for audio and visual.... any help?
[07:49] <[THC]AcidRain> all girls who wish to send me a pic of "ACidRain" on their titties, please send to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:50] <[THC]AcidRain> :P
[08:26] <noaXess> good morning
[08:26] <noaXess> is there a special ubuntu kernel channel?
[08:27] <noaXess> grr.. found ir right now..
[08:37] <BiggFREE> Hi
[08:43] <BiggFREE> Are you all sleeping ?
[08:49] <vHanda> Hi. Is there some way to install libavcodec-dev of lucid in karmic?
[08:59] <monkeykju> hello every body!
[09:00] <monkeykju> I'm a new user Kubuntu!
[09:00] <monkeykju> Can you help me?
[09:07] <vandenoever> my dbus-daemon is using 100% cpu and blocking some kde4 apps, what could be the cause of this?
[09:18] <aperson> monkeykju, we're all here to help.  Why not start off with your question?
[09:21] <monkeykju> sorry i has found answer.
[09:21] <monkeykju> thanks !
[09:30] <Guest49333> whats the easiest way to get chm support in okular?
[09:42] <BiggFREE_> bbl
[09:42] <BiggFREE_> tc
[10:10] <darren> are there cd formats that linux cant read? having trouble reading some cd's that i burned using nero on windows...
[10:39] <ahmtblbl> herkese selam
[10:39] <ahmtblbl> hi all
[10:39] <ahmtblbl> türk arkadaş varmı acaba yardımcı olabilicek
[10:42] <Mamarok> !tr | ahmtblbl
[10:43] <ahmtblbl> teşekkürler ubottu
[11:48] <n8w_> hey
[11:48] <x0lubi> hi
[11:49] <frans> hi
[11:50] <frans> bye
[12:13] <lisa_> hi, i have a problem with printing pdfs. everything else is working. when i print a pdf the prinout is half size and in landscape mode and some of the printout is over the boarder of the paper
[12:14] <lisa_> the same problem ocours with ps (postscript)
[13:53] <barbara> hello
[14:02] <ToraToraTora> Anyone using vlc in kubuntu? I need to find it's configuration file. It won't start anymore after I changed some settings!
[14:06] <goodtime> ToraToraTora: i would just uninstall vlc,then i would reinstall it again
[14:07] <ToraToraTora> I will try that
[14:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[14:17] <ToraToraTora> reinstalling vlc did nothing. unistallation propably didn't remove the settings file.
[14:17] <goodtime> perhaps
[14:18] <goodtime> http://torrentfreak.com/hacker-takes-over-torrentz-sort-of-081116/
[14:19] <amichair> is it possible in kate to show whitespace markers (space/tab/cr/lf)?
[14:24] <gilles> hello everyone
[14:25] <gilles> i'm happily using konqueror but i'm having troubles with sites like jiwa, deezer
[14:25] <gilles> others flash sites like youtube works fine
[15:02] <Elirips> Hello. I just installed kubuntu 9.10, everything working fine. excepct, knetworkmanager asks for the password for kwallet each time after login (to connect to wireless), can I change this somehow, so the pw is not needed?
[15:02] <beyondcr> when i do lshw -C multimedia i get *-multimedia UNCLAIMED any ideas????????
[15:06] <gunk> hello
[15:09] <beyondcr> when i do lshw -C multimedia i get *-multimedia UNCLAIMED  any ideas ?
[15:17] <rethus> which programm can i use to maximize my partition ?
[15:18] <otswim> hello, does anyone know why i can't use enter to send message? it creates a newline; if i change the shortcut to ctrl+enter it works;    but i also have another problem: why does kopete open links with konqueror even though i put firefox in default applications (and xdg-open http://whatever.com open with firefox); and one last thing, why does kopete enable auto spell check every time i restart it, even though spell check is globally disabled in '
[15:18] <Vge> rethus: gparted
[15:18] <otswim> Regional & Language'?
[15:18] <rethus> Vge: for kubuntu a gnom appplication?
[15:18] <rethus> does it need many gnome enviroment to install?
[15:19] <Vge> !help
[15:19] <vbgunz> other than grouping windows automatically. is there a way to group windows without assigning middle click to do it through the title bar alone?
[15:19] <Vge> !gparted
[15:20] <Vge> rethus: i might wanna go with the livecd, it's usefull to have at hand in anycase
[15:20] <rethus> so better to startfrom live cd as start from new system themself?
[15:21] <rethus> k, i do so
[15:41] <m_tadeu> hi all...how can I password protect a folder? and make sure the password is asked then trying to enter that folder
[15:48] <vetvicka> hi, pls, how can i update and upgrade system without upgrade KDE (I dont like KDE 4 and I want to stay in 3.)?
[15:54] <mharmant> yo
[16:04] <genii> vetvicka: KDE3 is only remaining in Kubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and is not in any later versions. Hardy will still be supported until April 2011
[16:06] <vbgunz> I no longer get any updates from korganizer automatically?
[16:06] <vbgunz> what happened?
[16:06] <vetvicka> But How I can update all applications without upgrade KDE?
[16:07] <vetvicka> My PC have problem swith kde4 :(
[16:08] <genii> vetvicka: If you are on Hardy, just uninstall kde4 and it will never get updated, only your kde3 will. Then any system updates you do will be for the right kde version
[16:11] <vetvicka> thanks, genii
[16:11] <genii> vetvicka: You're welcome
[16:19] <geekity> hiya
[16:20] <geekity> i've installed kubuntu 9.10 on a vayo vpceb1s0e, but the sound isn't working at all
[16:20] <geekity> *vaio
[16:20] <geekity> has anyone had the same problem by any chance?
[16:24] <clustermagnet> gents, this is pathetic... i need to find a good place to rtfm about kubuntu/ubuntu networking
[16:24] <clustermagnet> its not aparent to me how to specify a socks proxy anywhere1
[16:29] <marek_> hi, do you know any reliable symfony shop plugin that is under development and usable?
[16:31] <cerrie> hello, please help, i just installed kubuntu 2 mins ago. now my wirless wont work. when i ran the LIVE CD it said i had to enable a driver then it worked. it didnt ask me this time. can someone please tell me how to get it running?
[16:34] <cerrie> please..
[16:36] <geekity> cerrie: what wifi card do you have?
[16:37] <cerrie> bcm somthing.. when the live cd was runnig it said click to enable propiaratary drive
[16:37] <cerrie> and it worked great
[16:37] <alakoo> cerrie: is that a laptop? what model?
[16:38] <cerrie> yes, its a HP dv5t-1100
[16:38] <cerrie> is there not a way to add hardware like in a control pannel?
[16:39] <alakoo> what does "applications - system - hardware drivers" give you
[16:40] <geekity> think you have firmware problems, broadcom wifi cards usually do
[16:40] <cerrie> ahhh this is what poped up whilst on live cd. and it said BCM Wirless driver.
[16:40] <cerrie> but its empty now
[16:40] <cerrie> why would it work on the live cd and not now i installed it?
[16:40] <alakoo> cerrie:  try : system settings - network settings - wireless- add"
[16:40] <alakoo> then you'll see "scan"
[16:40] <cerrie> kk
[16:40] <alakoo> and try to connect to your network
[16:42] <cerrie> wirless is greayed out
[16:42] <cerrie> this didnt work before either, thats when the driver thing poped up
[16:42] <cerrie> click BCM the all was gravey
[16:43] <geekity> cerrie: could you open up a terminal, run lspci -vv and find the full name of the wifi card in it to post here please?
[16:44] <cerrie> kk
[16:44] <cerrie> thanks btw
[16:44] <geekity> no probs, dunno if i'll be any help as yet :)
[16:45] <cerrie> lol
[16:45] <cerrie> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub (rev 07)
[16:45] <cerrie>         Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 3602
[16:45] <cerrie>         Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
[16:45] <cerrie>         Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
[16:45] <cerrie>         Latency: 0
[16:45] <FloodBotK1> cerrie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:47] <alakoo> I found comments that knetworkmanage might not work in intel mobile series, wicd might do the trick
[16:47] <alakoo> cerrie: hardware drivers didn't suggest anything?
[16:48] <rosco_y> Does anyone know of a desktop widgit for following feeds?
[16:48] <geekity> cerrie: just the bit giving the bcm driver name
[16:49] <rosco_y> does uBlog do that?
[16:50] <genii> rosco_y: The widget called "News" works pretty good
[16:50] <rosco_y> genii--Thanks!
[16:50] <genii> Theres also the RSSNOW widget
[16:55] <cerrie> what do u mean ? sorry
[16:55] <RussellAlan> what is the apt-get for kubuntu ?
[16:55] <RussellAlan> from 8.10
[16:55] <cerrie> i dont wanna have to use the live cd everytime, it slooow
[16:55] <cerrie> think i was blocked from typing
[16:56] <cerrie> is there a way to add hardware? i have the driver its on the kubuntu CD..?
[16:56] <apparle> cerrie: what do you mean add hardware?
[16:57] <apparle> cerrie: what hardware
[16:57] <cerrie> i mean where do i go to install drivers?
[16:57] <cerrie> system setting?
[16:58] <alakoo> applications - system - hardware drivers
[16:58] <cerrie> but there's no add button?
[16:59] <cerrie> thats where the driver was listed before i installed off the cd
[17:00] <apparle> cerrie: be specific .... what hardware are you talking about
[17:00] <apparle> cerrie: do this in console "sudo apt-get update" and then see if it comes in hardware drivers
[17:01] <cerrie> my wirless card. when i run Kubuntu from the CD hardware driver pops up and says i have to enable this BCM driver for my wirless card. Now that i have installed kubuntu and not using the cd, the hardware driver window does not popup
[17:01] <cerrie> will do
[17:02] <alakoo> cerrie:  I still don't know what your wlan car exactly is but perhaps http://intellinuxwireless.org/?n=Downloads might help you
[17:03] <cerrie> gonan reboot brb, thanks all
[17:05] <geekity> alakoo: cerrie's card was bcm4312 by the look of her lspci output
[17:05] <cerrie> this is weird
[17:06] <cerrie> i can boot on the livecd and all works fine?
[17:06] <geekity> cerrie: is the card working?
[17:06] <cerrie> nope :O( just updated the system'
[17:07] <cerrie> hwo can i change from networkmanager to the other one wlic?
[17:08] <genii> !bcm43xx
[17:08] <cerrie> thanks
[17:09] <genii> Those cards are very problemmatic :(
[17:09] <cerrie> so it seems lol
[17:11] <cerrie> terminals going crazy lol.. this may work :O) thanks for that link
[17:12] <cerrie> should i reboot afteter installing drivers?
[17:12] <cerrie> kernel-source
[17:13] <[THC]AcidRain> i need someone to help me install a shoutcast server in ubuntu, but when i get back. thx ahead of time
[17:13] <[THC]AcidRain> :)
[17:24] <penguin_tx> testing new chat client
[17:26] <cerrie> hey guys :O) im wirless ! thank you so much!
[17:26] <cerrie> if anyone else needs help : ~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[17:27] <genii> penguin_tx: Apparently it works
[17:27] <penguin_tx> thanks genii :)
[17:28] <softman> hello all
[17:35] <rosco_y> Does anyone know how to change the default browser to Firefox?
[17:35] <raj_> GUYS i need help please i think google is spying on me.. I HAVE google sources in the GUI that i can not get rid off at ALL it keeps coming back.  but under /etc/apt/sources.list its not LISTED. its weird. its making it hell to update my packages it freezes up my updates here is a screenshot HELP anyone: http://imagebin.org/87372
[17:37] <rosco_y> raj_:  I'm a newb, but do you see google in your sources list?
[17:38] <Toph> anyone know the best place to get info om using Cinelerra?   even some good online tutorials?
[17:39] <rork> rosco_y: System Settings > default applications > web browser
[17:39] <raj_> resco_y no i dont only in the GUI application take a look at my screenshot
[17:48] <jhutchins_lt> Why would google be spying on someone?
[17:52] <bottiger> I'm trying to connect to a wireless network on kde 4.4.1. clicking the network manager I get two options. "Auto eth0" or "connect to other network". choosing "other network" gives me a list of some wireless options, but I can't see the signal strength before I connect
[17:52] <bottiger> is there a better way to do this?
[17:56] <Serraphyn> Anyone know how to reset kwallet password, for some reason its not taking the password it has for last few days..
[17:58] <amichair> anyone try they new nvidia 195 drivers yet?
[18:06] <genii> Serraphyn: mv ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.old                 should reset it, then next it runs put a new password
[18:06] <Serraphyn> Thanks
[18:07] <genii> amichair: The 195 drivers screwed my X and i had to go back to the 185 ones
[18:07] <geekity> does anyone know how to get the network manager app for gnome rather than knetwork manager on kde?
[18:08] <amichair> genii: ouch. I'm with the 190's for a couple months with no problems, just saw the 195 is out
[18:08] <Serraphyn> I have 190 drivers running
[18:09] <BluesKaj> lucid here , 195 seems to be ok so far
[18:09] <amichair> BluesKaj: hey BluesKaj :-)
[18:09] <BluesKaj> hi amichair
[18:09] <amichair> I'm still on karmic, with 190 and no problems. maybe I should wait a bit before moving to 195...
[18:10] <BluesKaj> yeah, no reason to if it's working well
[18:10] <Serraphyn> my wine is running runs like crap
[18:11] <Serraphyn> Though i do have to saw it runs WAY better then cedega
[18:11] <amichair> I'll wait for the next time my plasma process reaches 1G RAM forcing me to restart. should be a couple of weeks.
[18:12] <amichair> btw the 195 changelog does mention fixed specifically in KDE
[18:13] <amichair> fixes
[18:13] <cerrie> sorry everyone. i have no screensaver. i installed kscreensaver.. any advice?
[18:15] <genii> cerrie: System Settings...Desktop...Screensaver
[18:16] <amichair> does anyone here use ktorrent with preallocating disk space?
[18:40] <harolddong> is anybody of issue with yahoo accounts causing kopete to crash when they connect?  I've had this issue off and on since upgrading to 4.4 and I can't figure out what's wrong
[18:56] <AegNuddel> Is a ppa needed for the new version of kdenlive?  I had already added some in but I am trying to get my sister updated
[18:59] <lovre> hi all. I need to capture screen with python on kubuntu. How can i do this?
[19:02] <slow-motion> hi
[19:02] <genii> lovre: Maybe ask in #python
[19:03] <lovre> genii: i was, but noone was answering, and since its quiet here i thought ill give it a try. Sorry for OT
[19:04] <genii> lovre: I don't use python but info here suggests they have an image grabbing function you could use in some program you wrote: http://www.pythonware.com/library/pil/handbook/imagegrab.htm
[19:04] <genii> Ah, sorry, has "Windows only" which i just noticed
[19:04] <lovre> genii: ye
[19:05] <lovre> genii: thats why i ask. Sux
[19:05] <genii> lovre: Why not use ksnapshot if you are alreay in kubuntu? Is it some exercise?
[19:05] <lovre> genii: the thing is i want to automatically take snapshots at a certain rate, it cant be by hand
[19:07] <genii> lovre: Why not use something like recordmydesktop  and then later ffmpeg to reduce the footage to whatever frames per sec you want?
[19:08] <lovre> genii: not a bad idea.... But the thing is its about real-time processing, so i cant process it at a later time...
[19:08] <lovre> genii: i really just need capture on demand kind of utility
[19:08] <lovre> doesnt seem to be easy way in linux to do so
[19:11] <genii> lovre: VLC can apparently be set up to do screen capture if you set the source to something like screen://
[19:11] <lovre> :o
[19:12] <lovre> what does it do with output?
[19:12] <genii> lovre: Dumps it to a file, normally
[19:16] <lord_> algum brasileiro?
[19:17] <lovre> genii: thank you, i have to go. bye
[19:19] <genii> !br
[19:32] <jessi> hello  alll
[19:34] <jessi> in dragon, I do not see the images, but only the voice arranges operating kubuntu.
[19:43] <mitchbaz> hi im wondering if some one can help me,, iv installed kubuntu and updated. and i used to get some surgestion about  installing codecs but i now dont get that and i would like to have mp3 and avi files to work. please can some one help me .... thanks :)
[19:45] <BluesKaj> mitchbaz, copy and paste in the terminal, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras libdvdcss2 flashplugin-nonfree
[19:46] <mitchbaz> thanks, ill try that now :)
[20:13] <jessi> hello all
[20:13] <jessi> in dragon, I do not see the images, but only the voice arranges operating kubuntu.
[20:18] <dribble_knght> Hello acronica
[20:19] <dribble_knght> ups wrong tab
[20:19] <dribble_knght> hello everyone.  I have a pb in Kubuntu. Firefox only loads google, any other sites won't load
[20:21] <jessi> I have installed KUBUNTU, but I do not succeed to see a film dvd, black screen and is felt the voice, what must make?
[20:24] <rork> jessi: did you read install kubuntu-restricted-extras and read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[20:24] <jessi> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras   ?????????????
[20:24] <rork> yes
[20:26] <jessi> rork,   it does not go
[20:26] <jessi> rork,   the voice is felt but the screen is black
[20:27] <rork> jessi: did the package install?
[20:27] <jessi> yes
[20:28] <rork> jessi: have you installed libdvdread4?
[20:28] <jessi> sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 ???????????
[20:28] <rork> yes
[20:29] <jessi>  it does not go
[20:29] <rork> and then sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[20:31] <jessi> it does not go
[20:32] <rork> hm, should've done the job
[20:33] <rork> you may want to try the medibuntu packages then: http://www.medibuntu.org/
[20:38] <MrMazda> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop killed nfs. How can I fix it?
[20:39] <MrMazda> Where is runlevel editor hiding in Kubuntu 9.10 menus?
[20:41] <MrMazda> no manual entry for initng
[20:43] <SatManUK> why does kubuntu crash when i try to open a console session on ctrl alt f1?
[20:43] <SatManUK> if i swtich to console session 1, login and start to type any commands, my screen goes black and the laptop freezes up
[20:44] <MrMazda> intel video?
[20:44] <SatManUK> nope ATi
[20:45] <SatManUK> i had this problem years ago in 7.x (which was the last time i used kubuntu before this laptop)
[20:45] <SatManUK> I prefer to do system updates via aptitude in console login.. i can do it through console within gui - but why can't i use console without the laptop locking up?
[20:46] <MrMazda> which kubuntu?
[20:47] <MrMazda> which kernel?
[20:47] <SatManUK> 9.10 is it?
[20:48] <SatManUK> 2.6.31
[20:48] <SatManUK> pae
[20:48] <SatManUK> Linux stuart-laptop 2.6.31-20-generic-pae #57-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 8 10:23:59 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[20:49] <MrMazda> newer might be blamed on kms
[20:50] <SatManUK> what do you mean?
[20:53] <X-TREME-AS> Hey all
[20:53] <MrMazda> kernel exclusive modesetting in 2.6.33+ kernels
[20:53] <SatManUK> but im not using 2.6.33..
[20:54] <SatManUK> should i upgrade?
[20:55] <Goliath23> hi. just upgraded to 4.4.1 packages on an eeepc (netbook edition). after login i get a blank screen. if i start plasma-netbook manually, everything works fine.
[20:55] <Goliath23> known issue?
[21:08] <slow-motion> bye
[21:10] <mitchbaz> hai, wondering if there is a simpler package mansger like they have in ubuntu? as this one is a little confusing :S
[21:10] <mitchbaz> kubuntu user
[21:10] <acronica> Hi
[21:10] <acronica> Can anyone help me with Amarok?
[21:10] <mitchbaz> i can try
[21:11] <acronica> I'm trying to use my mp3 player with Amarok
[21:11] <mitchbaz> so it can play .mp3 files you mean?
[21:11] <acronica> It's recognized and all,   but I can't figure out how to remove a set of files from the device
[21:11] <acronica> I can 'delete' them, but then they're also removed from my local collection
[21:12] <mitchbaz> sorry i dont know :S im new to all this as well
[21:13] <acronica> ahh well,  I hope somebody else can help me with this
[21:13] <acronica> 'cause it's really anoying
[21:14] <mitchbaz> are you trying to remove files from the device?  if so id use dolphin file manager to access the device,
[21:20] <mitchbaz> hai, thar,, dose any one know if you can get a simpler package manager? somthing like the one in ubuntu
[21:22] <n8w_> hey
[21:22] <n8w_> where in kmail do i set that i wanna download only 1 week old messages?
[21:23] <n8w_> i cant find the option for this anywhere
[21:24] <SatManUK> mitchbaz: what do you need? just aptitide install program
[21:24] <SatManUK> aptitude install program
[21:24] <SatManUK> simple :)
[21:25] <mitchbaz> yeah i could do that, but i used to look down the list and see what looks cool, on ubuntu
[21:25] <acronica> mitchbaz: you can use synaptic (it's gtk, but it works for me) or kpackagekit
[21:25] <mona_ukraine> is there any difference in apt-get install stuff and aptitude install stuff
[21:25] <mona_ukraine> ?
[21:26] <acronica> mitchbaz: Although I probably could use dolphin to remove stuff from my mp3 player, I would like to do that with Amarok
[21:26] <mitchbaz> ok thanks :) ill check them out if not i dont mind
[21:26] <[THC]AcidRain> what type of sql database management tools are there for mysql?
[21:27] <mitchbaz> acronica: well to the left of the program you can look in other directories, have you tryed that ?
[21:27] <acronica> I used Banshee with gnome, since the early 0.1 releases. It didn't have any eye-candy or fancy schmancy user interface, but it "Just Worked"
[21:29] <mitchbaz> acronica: i think amarock is more to be just like a music player :S thats all i ever use it for
[21:30] <acronica> Well, it gives me the idea that it does a lot more
[21:31] <acronica> for instance, it recognizes the mp3 player, it shows all the files that are on it, etc. etc.
[21:31] <acronica> it also says "device support' on the feature list on http://amarok.kde.org
[21:31] <mitchbaz> sorry guys i got to go now hope you fix things,, cya
[21:36] <SatManUK> any idea what kubuntu crashes when i switch to console sessions and start to type?
[21:44] <[THC]AcidRain> what is a good radio broadcasting application for ubuntu. to a shoutcast server
[21:47] <[THC]AcidRain> ?
[22:00] <ajhansen> hi there
[22:00] <ajhansen> im having a problem with the network-manager
[22:01] <ajhansen> it looks like the knetworkmanager thats in use but i wanna use plasmoid-widget-network-manager since its supposed to actually work with mobile broadband
[22:01] <ajhansen> but even though i can create a mobile broadband connection i can never connect to it..
[22:01] <ajhansen> help!!
[22:01] <ajhansen> ;)
[22:03] <ajhansen> anyone?
[22:12] <kpenrose> Can someone explain the semantic desktop to me that's in KDE 4.4?
[22:14] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i get xmms to send audio to shoutcast serveR?
[22:24] <princess> cc
[22:24] <princess> join #ubuntu
[23:24] <syke> hi
[23:25] <syke> I'm trying to use kbluetooth to add a headset
[23:25] <syke> when it tried to pair with the device, it errors out and says it not an input device
[23:25] <syke> this is with the KDE SC 4.4 latest from PPA on KUbuntu 9.10 amd64
[23:25] <syke> this process works fine on Ubuntu 9.10 on amd64
[23:26] <syke> using the gnome bluetooth admin
[23:29] <zegenie_> syke: I'm pretty sure the kbluetooth application doesn't support this yet
[23:41] <syke> zegenie_: ah, that would explain it
[23:42] <zegenie_> indeed
[23:42] <syke> too bad; KDE used to be ahead of gnome on bluetooth support just a few years ago :/
[23:42] <zegenie_> bluetooth for kde4 is still a bit young
[23:42] <rapa> algun español que me diga un canal español de kubuntu?
[23:42] <syke> is there anyone actively working on this? I will really need this in my day to day work
[23:43] <syke> hopefully I won't have to switch to gnome to make it go
[23:43] <zegenie_> syke: yes, very much so
[23:43] <syke> been using KDE since 1999 or so
[23:43] <zegenie_> http://www.afiestas.org/
[23:43] <syke> zegenie_: should I try 10.04? or can I check out from trunk and try that?
[23:43] <zegenie_> that guy blogs a lot about his work on kbluetooth
[23:44] <zegenie_> unless you know what you're doing I wouldn't recommend using alphas (10.04) or trunk (kde 4.5 current)
[23:45] <syke> oh cool, thanks for the link!
[23:45] <syke> looks like 0.4.2 might be safe to try
[23:46] <syke> ah
[23:46] <zegenie_> cool, good luck :)
[23:46] <syke> he says in the comments it will be in 0.5 release
[23:46] <syke> so I'll test that
[23:46] <syke> hopefully it won't be too late to get it into 10.04
[23:46] <zegenie_> you can always try gnome bluetooth anyway
[23:46] <syke> not being able to pair with a headset is pretty common these days
[23:47] <syke> zegenie_: yea, but I don't like having all the libs and whatever installed and taking up memory, if I can help it
[23:47] <syke> anyways, thanks for the pointer!
[23:47] <zegenie_> sure
[23:47] <zegenie_> I do it with network manager gnome, because the kde4 version simply isn't good enough
[23:50] <syke> zegenie_: my desktop @ work just uses ethernet, so kneworkmanager works pretty well for me in that scenario
[23:51] <zegenie_> syke: hehe, yeah for that scenario, knetworkmanager / plasma-widget-networkmanager or whatever it's called nowadays does the trick ;)
[23:52] <syke> on my laptop, KDE3's kentworkmanager had just gotten usable and then the next version took a giant leap backward
[23:52] <syke> btw, this article looks like it will work for me: http://www.funkynerd.com/?p=13
[23:53] <rapa> plz i can say me when i know the name of tar.bz2 archiv for put in a | sudo aptitude install * ?¿
[23:53] <zegenie_> that's kool
[23:53] <zegenie_> rapa: you can't
[23:53] <rapa> then i can install that?
[23:54] <rapa> sry me english
[23:55] <zegenie_> rapa: "aptitude" is for installing programs from the repositories
[23:55] <zegenie_> if you downloaded a .tar.bz2 file it is most likely the sourcecode of a program that you must compile and install manually
[23:56] <zegenie_> which is usually a much more tedious process
[23:56] <zegenie_> but you can often find ".deb" files to download instead of .tar.bz2
[23:58] <rapa> for example ati drivers i getout archive succesfully but the next. what archive must i choose? how know that ?
[23:59] <rapa> i need read the instruccion i think..
[23:59] <zegenie_> ati drivers are a bit more complicated
[23:59] <zegenie_> you should definately read the instructions on the kubuntu/ubuntu wiki