[09:13] <Scotty> when I try to boot in Kubuntu, I get the loading screen, and then some text comes up but goes away before I can read it, and then it goes back to the loading screen for 30 seconds or so and then a black screen comes up with a blinking underscore.
[09:13] <Scotty> Is there anyway to reset those settings to their defaults?
[09:15] <illriginal> Can someone help me mount my Digital Camera via USB?
[09:15] <sammy> Scotty: you're looking for /etc/X11/xorg.conf, me thinks. as far as resetting, you can at least change the resolution to something you know works and go from there.
[09:15] <Scotty> Sammy: Thanks
[09:16] <mac1> can someone help me put in more servers like undernet channel on Konversation?
[09:16] <MilhousePunkRock> mac1: Hit F2
[09:16] <mac1> i tried that...
[09:16] <mac1> I tried to add the servers and ports...
[09:17] <mac1> but it would not connect
[09:17] <Scotty> Sammy: Could I just type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in a recovery console? Would that work?
[09:17] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Daisuke_Ido: I found a mac 680x0 emulator. Basilisk II! > http://basilisk.cebix.net/
[09:17] <mac1> mac emulator that's cool
[09:17] <MilhousePunkRock> mac1: Are you sure you entered everthing correctly?
[09:17] <MilhousePunkRock> mac1: Or that the server you are trying to add is up at all?
[09:18] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !info basilisk2
[09:18] <ubotu> basilisk2: 68k Macintosh emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.9.20060529-1 (feisty), package size 300 kB, installed size 840 kB
[09:18] <illriginal> Can someone help me mount my Digital Camera via USB?
[09:18] <mac1> Undernet Channel? yes
[09:19] <mac1> I went to www.undernet.org to look at their servers
[09:20] <mac1> hmmm..have you been able to use your digital camera at all Illriginal?
[09:20] <sammy> Scotty: I betthat would work actually.
[09:21] <Ryaren> sby can help me in Wine?
[09:21] <sammy> Scotty: that question was answered by the gentoo part of my brain, not the kubuntu/debian one, sorry :P
[09:23] <Ryaren> I've just installed the WoW and in 1280x1024 the texts are flickering (like chatlog,combatlog etc..) It seems like somekind of refresh rate problem but if I change this rate nothing happens! I'm using the latest wine (0.9.41) and Geforce 4 ti4200 + I-max LCD monitor
[09:24] <illriginal> mac1 for some reason amarok keeps letting me see my pictures, but then I closed amarok..and now I can't view my pictures
[09:24] <illriginal> mac1 even after amarok is opened, i go to "My Computer" and double click it.. .and it gives me an error message
[09:26] <Riyoxke> !pkg
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pkg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <Riyoxke> !pkg-config
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pkg-config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <mac1> sorry can't help you
[09:26] <mac1> i'm working on that next project for my own digital camera
[09:26] <mac1> right now, I'm trying to figure out how to download java
[09:27] <MilhousePunkRock> mac1: To me it seems that this undernet service is down, the website loads really slow and it does not list any server
[09:27] <ADiCT3D> Can someone help me fix my sound? It seems all high pitched now since i was messin with Audacity
[09:27] <MilhousePunkRock> s
[09:27] <scotty> Excellent. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg worked perfectly.
[09:27] <scotty> Thanks for the suggestion, anyway, Sammy :D
[09:28] <mac1> it does load slow
[09:28] <sammy> scotty: good call with dpkg-config. I need to remember there's a computer to fix things for me automagically :P
[09:29] <mac1> the site has a tab for servers you didn't see it?
[09:29] <MilhousePunkRock> mac1: I see it, but the list it brings up is empty
[09:29] <mac1> what do you mean by empty? I see the server list and port listings etc.
[09:30] <mac1> MillhousePunkRock: it is a slow site.if I didn't have friends logging on there I would not bother trying to figure this out
[09:31] <morten_> hey all
[09:33] <ADiCT3D> how do i record sterero mixer audio from Audacity?
[09:34] <ADiCT3D> how do i record sterero mixer audio from Audacity?
[09:35] <morten_> i hav ea problem whwn istalling porgs
[09:36] <jombee> what's the problem?
[09:50] <nivea> hallo, ich hab da mal ne frage: wie kann ich licq installieren auf kubuntu? (es sei hinzugefuegt, dass ich erst kuerzlich von windows auf linux umgestiegen bin und mich daher ueber nuetzliche tipps sehr freuen wuerde)
[09:51] <Riyoxke> !de
[09:51] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:52] <nivea> hello, i've got a question: how can i install licq on kubuntu? (i'm an absolute beginner because i switched over from windows few days ago, some tips might be useful) thanks
[09:55] <thetigergo> hi nivea
[09:55] <pag> nivea, sudo apt-get install licq
[09:55] <pag> !info licq
[09:55] <ubotu> licq: ICQ client (base files). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.4-2 (feisty), package size 627 kB, installed size 1952 kB
[09:57] <thetigergo> #netbeans
[10:04] <Riyoxke> *** Compile and install it, and make sure pkg-config finds it,
[10:04] <Riyoxke> *** by adding the path where the .pc file is located to PKG_CONFIG_PATH
[10:04] <Riyoxke> i dont get it
[10:04] <Riyoxke> :-/
[10:05] <pag> Riyoxke, wth are you trying to do? :P
[10:06] <nivea> pag, my shell says he can't find the licq package, and if i'm honest, i don't know how to use a shell, so if you could tell me how i am able to navigate to the folder where i downloaded and unpacked it, that would be great.
[10:06] <pag> !repos | nivea
[10:06] <ubotu> nivea: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:06] <Riyoxke> trying to install irssi, first i installed gcc, pkg and now i'm trying to install glib
[10:06] <Riyoxke> :p
[10:06] <pag> nivea, see that link, and then install licq through Adept manager
[10:07] <pag> Riyoxke, you're compiling glib? why? it's in repos, no need to compile
[10:08] <pag> Riyoxke, you can install everything you need to build the newest version of irssi by typing  sudo apt-get build-dep irssi
[10:08] <Riyoxke> well, tbh, i dont know what i'm trying :p irssi needs glib, so i downloaded glib.. did ./configure etc etc
[10:08] <Riyoxke> i'm just new to linux (2 days)
[10:08] <Riyoxke> :p
[10:09] <Riyoxke> pag: can't find the package irssi
[10:09] <thetigergo> don't let nivea confuse
[10:09] <Riyoxke> need to do ./configure first
[10:09] <pag> Riyoxke, you have all the repos enabled?
[10:10] <thetigergo> why don't teach her goto shell and type this one
[10:10] <thetigergo> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:10] <thetigergo> it is easy ?
[10:11] <nivea> i'm ok, i just use the link ubotu send, think its gonna work
[10:11] <pag> thetigergo, since it's easier just to click your way through adepts menus, than to edit a file in text-based editor?
[10:12] <pag> nivea, it should. and if if doesn't you can always ask for further instructions :)
[10:12] <thetigergo> no, that's alittle complicated
[10:12] <Riddell> ** testers needed for the tribe 3 candidates alternate CDs
[10:13] <thetigergo> u know? when u got to sources list? u just remove the # sign inline with the deb and http? and save it
[10:13] <thetigergo> after that just type sudo apt-get update and the whole thing will updated
[10:13] <thetigergo> after that just type again sudo apt-get install licq
[10:14] <thetigergo> then after the installation done.
[10:14] <pag> thetigergo, I know. I personally prefer vim over nano... but somehow I feel, that editing things graphically might be easier for beginner
[10:14] <thetigergo> still u can use shell and type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:15] <thetigergo> that is GUI editor?
[10:15] <pag> thetigergo, kdesu kate  that's kubuntu channel ;)
[10:15] <thetigergo> kate rather
[10:16] <thetigergo> so that's so easy?
[10:17] <pag> thetigergo, sorry... I already lost a track of this conversation :-/ Editing sources.list is rather easy - yes. Clicking in adept is easy too.. I don't see a point for having this argument
[10:22] <berkes> what tool or app is used to create the fstab on install of kubuntu?
[10:22] <ADiCT3D> berkes: its a text file
[10:22] <berkes> my disks (uuids) are fsked during the latest upgrade. And I want to regenerate the etc/fstab ffile
[10:23] <thetigergo> sorry pag, I just trying to let nivea not to confuse
[10:23] <berkes> thing is, that doing it manually breaks in several places. And breaks the ablity of future upgrades too. Once its broken your fsked.
[10:23] <Ogredude> ah crap
[10:23] <Ogredude> computer I was going to install kubuntu on doesn't have a DVD reader and all I've got is a 7.04 DVD
[10:24] <Ogredude> can I use the DVD to make CD images on another machine or do I have to go download CD images?
[10:24] <ADiCT3D> Ogredude: go download  a CD image
[10:24] <Ogredude> ok
[10:24] <berkes> Ogredude: downloading is the easiest.
[10:24] <Ogredude> ugh.
[10:24] <Ogredude> also the slowest probably
[10:25] <berkes> alternative you could mount the iso over loopback and create cd isos from that. But that requires skills :)
[10:25] <ADiCT3D> Ogredude: Nope ordering a shipit CD is
[10:25] <Ogredude> lol
[10:25] <Ogredude> I guess so
[10:25] <ADiCT3D> berkes: no dvd reader
[10:25] <Ogredude> ADiCT3D: well the machine I'm on right now has a DVD reader
[10:25] <berkes> ADiCT3D: you don't have the iso then?
[10:25] <Ogredude> it's the target machine that doesn't
[10:25] <ADiCT3D> oh
[10:25] <ADiCT3D> pull it out of current
[10:25] <ADiCT3D> put in other
[10:26] <berkes> ADiCT3D: but yea, I know fsab is a file.  Saves some mem and cpu.
[10:37] <Ogredude> okie
[10:42] <NeoChapay> hi 2 all i create deb package of Kde4-svn071407 ho can me say how i can add him for devel repos !?
[10:43] <pag> NeoChapay, #ubuntu-motu
[10:44] <Pensa`MIA> smplayer won't work with kubuntu's patched Qt 4.3.0
[10:45] <skar> hey whats up all
[10:45] <skar> inew with linux
[10:45] <skar> i need help
[10:48] <zenum> hi, does anyone here have an nvidia 8500 or 8600?
[10:49] <zenum> i'm just wondering if i would be able to get full 3d support for it in ubuntu?
[10:49] <Ogredude> good lord
[10:49] <Ogredude> damnsmall *is* damn small
[10:49] <Mikelevel> Pensa`MIA~ why smplayer ? if you use kde its better kmplayer
[10:50] <Pensa`MIA> smplayer is the best frontend I found for mplayer I have come across
[10:50] <Pensa`MIA> imho
[10:50] <Mikelevel> could be... but.. its gtk
[10:50] <Pensa`MIA> nope
[10:50] <Pensa`MIA> qt
[10:51] <Pensa`MIA> http://smplayer.sourceforge.net
[10:51] <Mikelevel> sorry i was thinking in another one
[10:52] <Pensa`MIA> :)
[10:53] <Mikelevel> 	Source code: smplayer-0.5.29-qt4-0718.tar.gz (~ 1.3 MB)
[10:53] <Mikelevel> Note: currently SMPlayer is being ported to Qt 4. These versions could be really unstable. You're warned.
[10:53] <Pensa`MIA> I've talked to the developer and it seems to be a problem with the changes kubuntu makes to qt
[11:02] <haiz> hi i'm installing etch now on a machine but it hang at configuring apt scanning the mirror..
[11:02] <haiz> anyway to abort it?
[11:03] <pollyo> Hello
[11:04] <rion> buenas
[11:04] <rion> una pregunta
[11:04] <pag> !es | rion
[11:04] <ubotu> rion: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:04] <pollyo> I'm attempting to help a friend.  I installed ubuntu on his computer and now he would like windows on it as well.  I was wanting to keep the ubuntu on the system and add windows to it.
[11:04] <pollyo> Would anyone be able to share some knowledge on this situation?
[11:05] <pollyo> Or perhaps a website that would discuss the proccess.
[11:05] <pag> pollyo, in short: Install Windows on a deperate partition and recover grub ;)
[11:05] <pag> seperate even
[11:05] <pollyo> pag: Thank you.  To recover grub would I make use of the ubuntu boot disk?
[11:06] <pag> pollyo, yup. just mount your ubuntu-installation, chroot to it and command sudo grub-install (or something like that, cant remember the exact comman atm)
[11:07] <pollyo> pag: I am not familiar with chroot.  Would you be able to share how to make use of that command?
[11:07] <pag> pollyo, sure. sudo chroot /mount/point
[11:08] <pollyo> pag: Would mount/point be the partition? (by default with ubuntu)?
[11:08] <pag> pollyo, mountpoint would be the folder you've mounted your Ubuntu-installations / prtition one command earlier
[11:10] <pollyo> pag: Does ubuntu have a command to tell you what the mount point be?   Or is "chroot /mount/point" the actuall command?
[11:11] <pollyo> pag: or would chroot /dev/sda1 or something like that?
[11:11] <pag> pollyo, I'll give you an example: sudo mkdir /myubuntu && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /myubuntu && sudo chroot /myubuntu
[11:11] <pag> pollyo, of course /dev/sdXY must be correct
[11:12] <pollyo> pag: Thank you for the time to help me on this.
[11:12] <pag> np :)
[11:12] <pollyo> pag: After that I run what command to renue the boot system?
[11:12] <pollyo> pag: Will it automatically find both windows and ubuntu or do I have to edit anything?
[11:13] <pag> pollyo, wait a sec, I'll try to figure the latter steps :)
[11:14] <pag> pollyo,  grub-install --root-directory=/myubuntu /dev/sda
[11:14] <pag> !grub
[11:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:15] <pollyo> pag: Great link.  From the description it appears to discuss what I am doing.  I hope it covers dual booting.
[11:15] <pag> pollyo, official guide seems to use different approach. It should work too
[11:16] <pollyo> pag: I'll review the official guide as well and thank you once again for your time and effort.
[11:17] <pag> np
[11:18] <TiMiDo> !es
[11:18] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:25] <arhangel> help
[11:25] <pag> with?
[11:26] <arhangel> whit everithing
[11:26] <arhangel> i dowt know how to log on root
[11:26] <pag> !root'
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about root' - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <arhangel> :| I INSTALL KUBUNTU
[11:26] <pag> !root
[11:26] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:26] <arhangel> !flex
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <pag> arhangel, in other words; use sudo and *don't* try to login as root
[11:28] <arhangel> aaa
[11:28] <arhangel> i understant
[11:28] <arhangel> if i wana install something whit root acces i use sudo ?
[11:28] <arhangel> sudo make blABLA
[11:28] <arhangel> :P
[11:28] <pag> arhangel, yup. ie. sudo apt-get install
[11:28] <arhangel> yes yes
[11:28] <arhangel> :D
[11:28] <arhangel> wait
[11:28] <arhangel> :D
[11:29] <arhangel> checking for X... no
[11:29] <arhangel> checking for flex... no
[11:29] <arhangel> configure: error: no suitable flex found. Please install the 'flex' package.
[11:29] <pag> !info flex
[11:29] <ubotu> flex: A fast lexical analyzer generator.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.33-10build1 (feisty), package size 226 kB, installed size 960 kB
[11:30] <pag> arhangel, for configuring (by the way, what are you trying to install?) you'll probably need flex-dev
[11:30] <arhangel> i try to install wine
[11:31] <arhangel> :(
[11:31] <pag> !repos | arhangel
[11:31] <ubotu> arhangel: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:31] <pag> !info wine | arhangel
[11:31] <ubotu> arhangel: wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB
[11:32] <arhangel> i know what`s wine
[11:32] <arhangel> :| but i dowt know how to install flex package
[11:33] <pag> arhangel, enable universe-repo (as told in first link) and then install via Adept / apt-get
[11:37] <arhangel> !aol
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <arhangel> another eror
[11:40] <arhangel> tests
[11:40] <arhangel> hecking for bison... no
[11:40] <arhangel> configure: error: no suitable bison found. Please install the 'bison' package.
[11:40] <arhangel> !info bison
[11:40] <ubotu> bison: A parser generator that is compatible with YACC. In component main, is optional.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:57] <Ogredude> ok I know I'm going to regret this...  But do I want lilo or grub?  (installing DSL at the moment)
[11:57] <pag> Ogredude, grub probably
[11:58] <Ogredude> ok
[11:58] <Ogredude> I don't know a damn thing about either of them
[11:58] <pag> Ogredude, grub is newer, and easier iirc  lilo is mostly for old-school users
[11:58] <Ogredude> okie
[12:00] <Teknobaba> how can i download kubuntu ?
[12:00] <emonkey> !download
[12:00] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[12:00] <Teknobaba> thanks
[12:01] <vistakiller> geia sas
[12:01] <pag> !gr | vistakiller
[12:01] <ubotu> vistakiller: #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[12:02] <peer> when I will start Kubuntu comes many errors: ata2.01: revalidation failed (errno= -5)  ata2: port failed to respond (30sec, States 0xd0)
[12:02] <Teknobaba> can  use kubuntu in turksh language
[12:03] <peer> What can I do?
[12:03] <pag> !tr | Teknobaba
[12:03] <ubotu> Teknobaba: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[12:03] <Teknobaba> ubotu: teekkrler
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about teekkrler - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <pag> Teknobaba, ubotu's a bot :)
[12:04] <Teknobaba> pag: hehe OK :D
[12:04] <Ogredude> urgh, HD errors
[12:04] <Ogredude> *sigh*
[12:05] <wers> for my gnome apps, can I use GNOME's Window decoration under KDE?
[12:05] <peer> but kubuntu will start 3 minutes later
[12:05] <pag> wers, either or. you can't run two WMs at the same time
[12:06] <pag> wers, so it's either Metacity (gnome) or Kwin (KDE)
[12:06] <wers> I guess, I really cant
[12:06] <wers> okay.. thanks
[12:07] <arhangel> pag can you help me plz
[12:07] <arhangel> step by step :(
[12:08] <pag> arhangel, with?
[12:08] <arhangel> to instal aol
[12:09] <pag> arhangel, isn't aol an ISP?
[12:09] <arhangel> what is a IPS
[12:09] <arhangel> ?
[12:09] <arhangel> tu hide my ip
[12:09] <pag> Internet Service Provider
[12:09] <arhangel> no no
[12:09] <arhangel> aol mesenger like in windows
[12:09] <runlevelten> They have that massive trojan^w client software that stops and starts services, messes with packet filtering etc.
[12:10] <runlevelten> ah, aim
[12:10] <runlevelten> kopete ftw :)
[12:10] <arhangel> no no
[12:10] <arhangel> no aim
[12:10] <arhangel> aol make`s a now internet conexion and creeate a new ip
[12:10] <runlevelten> so not aol messenger then?
[12:11] <arhangel> make a new pppoe
[12:11] <arhangel> wait
[12:12] <runlevelten> eeks, last time I touched AOL connectivity for home Linux it was a horrific mess. I hope it's improved now
[12:13] <arhangel> http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAOL.html
[12:13] <arhangel> look
[12:13] <runlevelten> sudo apt-cache search aol | grep connect .... penggy - connects to AOL via modem or TCP/IP
[12:13] <arhangel> but it doesont work the recomplie
[12:13] <arhangel> command
[12:14] <Teknobaba> pag: can  use kubuntu in turksh language ?
[12:14] <pag> Teknobaba, you can... You'll have to install Turkish language packs
[12:15] <Teknobaba> pag: okay
[12:15] <Teknobaba> thanks
[12:16] <pag> Teknobaba, sudo apt-get install kde-i18n-tr language-pack-kde-tr
[12:28] <runlevelten> wow, this amarok - ums player thing isn't working smoothly. welcome to 1993
[12:28] <runlevelten> it's so snazzy and seamless normally, too :(
[12:49] <prezence> hello people
[12:49] <prezence> can sum1 help me get kdeaccessibility going on kubuntu 6
[12:49] <prezence> not available via the adept manager
[12:50] <prezence> and when i manually get the .deb it has a rather big list of dependancies
[12:50] <prezence> is there a specific repository i could add?
[12:51] <Lynoure> kubuntu 6? you mean Dapper 6.04 or Edgy 6.10?
[12:51] <prezence> should be dapper
[12:51] <prezence> 6.06
[12:51] <prezence> please
[12:52] <Lynoure> I would if I could, but I cannot remember that... long time since my dapper days
[12:53] <prezence> any1 else?
[12:56] <prezence> have i got it right though?
[12:56] <prezence> kdeaccessibilty
[01:01] <dreamer> hmm, i'm unable to start firefox: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:09] <dreamer> is this still the major bug discussed here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/60236
[01:09] <perrito> hello everybody
[01:09] <perrito> I don
[01:10] <dreamer> I not don
[01:10] <perrito> I dont speak english very well and I need help with kubuntu
[01:10] <dreamer> ok, hi don :)
[01:10] <dreamer> what is your problem?
[01:10] <dreamer> and what is your native language?
[01:10] <perrito> my internet connection is goes too slow with kubuntu
[01:11] <perrito> spanish
[01:12] <perrito> the problem is the download speed
[01:12] <dreamer> !spanish
[01:12] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:12] <perrito> thanks ubotu
[01:13] <dreamer> :)
[01:13] <perrito> il try it
[01:13] <dreamer> good luck!
[01:13] <perrito> thanks dreamer
[01:18] <jiyong>
[01:21] <dreamer> http://www.scaryideas.com/pictures/2960.jpg
[01:22] <perrito> please I need your help, I will try to write in English
[01:22] <arun> Is it just me, or does anyone else experience a weird caching problem using Firefox/Linux? Sites that work fine on Firefox/Windows sometimes need to be refreshed 6-7 times before they work properly and display the most recent information, especially AJAX-based sites. Come to think of it, it happens with other browsers on Linux as well.. Opera, Konqueror. Do I need to tweak anything w.r.t network settings?
[01:23] <bldzr> Hum, never experienced that
[01:24] <perrito> arun I think you may have to delete the temporary files after get the new content
[01:25] <perrito> I experience that but only in some type of files embedded
[01:25] <perrito> like sounds, video etc
[01:27] <arun> perrito: no, that's not it. tried everything, it's weird.
[01:27] <perrito> mm i have no idea
[01:28] <_4strO> arun: have you a concrete exemple ?
[01:28] <_4strO> arun: than we can test
[01:28] <arun> For example, have you heard of a file storing service called Dropboks?
[01:28] <_4strO> nop
[01:28] <perrito> my firefox works fine with ajax i don have that problem
[01:29] <arun> Ok, so that site uses AJAX to upload and display data. It uploads files alright, but it doesn't display the list of files when you log in, like it's supposed to. It works fine on Firefox/Windows, though
[01:31] <arun> The problem doesn't occur with all AJAX-based sites, only some
[01:32] <arun> But there's no problem on Firefox/Windows, even when I'm using Windows/VMWare (which is basically using the same connection as kubuntu)
[01:33] <_4strO> arun: so you have something special in your FF on linux conf
[01:33] <tmske> is there a rss-feed whith new or updated packages of kubuntu gutsy?
[01:34] <_4strO> !gutsy
[01:34] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[01:34] <arun> _4strO: any idea what that might be?
[01:35] <_4strO> arun: nop
[01:35] <_4strO> sorry
[01:39] <jarohp> hello there. I experienced very strange situation. My battery was depleted when I forgot my notebook running. Now I plugged mains started notebook but battery doesn't seem to recharge at all. Do anyone know what could be the problem and how to solve this? I really don't know what might be wrong with it.
[01:40] <_4strO> try the plug with another equipment
[01:40] <_4strO> ^^
[01:46] <BluesKaj> Morning all :)
[01:46] <_4strO> yop
[02:01] <Vrenn> hello, I'm running kubuntu 7.04 an had the problem that knetworkmanager wanst able all the time to connect to my router (wpa, madwifi), then i deactivated it and used /etc/network/networks, which also breaks down from time to time (ifdown && ifup helps but is no solution)
[02:02] <Vrenn> anybody has a idea to get rid of the always annoining ifup/ifdown?
[02:03] <BluesKaj> !wireless | Vrenn
[02:03] <ubotu> Vrenn: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:05] <Ryaren> sby can help me in shell scripting?
[02:07] <BluesKaj> Ryaren, how?
[02:08] <Vrenn> wireless works, but not all the time, thats the point, the troubleshootingguide ends when the connection is establiched, and i have all channels from 1-13 through
[02:08] <Ryaren> I want to make a script but I don't know how can I take a command as root
[02:09] <Ryaren> Blueskaj: I want to copy to /etc folder a file
[02:12] <BluesKaj> you can do it as root in konqueror, kdesu konqueror /etc/..filename ,cut &paste or copy & paste you file into it IIRC
[02:13] <Darkrift> are there tools to move a partition on any linux live cds?
[02:13] <Darkrift> i wanna delete my vista partition, make a new partition, copy my linux one onto it, then make a new one with whats left at the end
[02:13] <Darkrift> cause the linux partitions are in the middle of the drive
[02:14] <BluesKaj> Kubuntu Live cds have partitioning capabilities , but i's recommended to prepartition you drive(s) first ... makes for an easier and quicker install
[02:14] <Darkrift> well
[02:14] <Darkrift> thats not possible
[02:14] <Darkrift> i got a fully running install already
[02:15] <Darkrift> just want to give it more drive space and remove vistas partition
[02:15] <BluesKaj> Darkrift, then DL and burn GParted Live CD partiton editor,  it's bootable and works very well
[02:16] <Darkrift> do you know if it can copy partitions though?
[02:16] <Darkrift> or do i need to use something like partition magic
[02:16] <BluesKaj> it can move them
[02:16] <Darkrift> nice
[02:17] <BluesKaj> partition magic sucks and is unstable ...use GPareted
[02:17] <Darkrift> cool
[02:17] <BluesKaj> Gparted
[02:17] <Darkrift> i might do a full drive backup first just incase
[02:18] <Darkrift> i have a 300g in my closet, jsut need the power cord for my external bay
[02:18] <runlevelten> or cfdisk and some forethought :)
[02:18] <BluesKaj> I've used it several times and it's never lrt me down ...but it does take a while
[02:18] <Darkrift> the lappy drive is only 80g, so id be safe with either method
[02:22] <BluesKaj> Darkrift, well plan to be withou the pc for several hrs then , but redundancy is the safe way alright
[02:22] <Darkrift> yup
[02:25] <BluesKaj> mornin', genii
[02:25] <genii> BluesKaj: Mornin' :)
[02:26] <runlevelten> coffee. Good call.
[02:26] <genii> I feel like that Warner Bros cartoon with the sheepdog and coyote at the timesheet
[02:27] <genii> Hi Geroge, hi Fred, etc LOL
[02:27] <grul> !gtk
[02:27] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[02:27] <grul> rly...
[02:29] <BluesKaj> bones are achy this mornin ...t-storms and rain ...gonna be housebound again
[02:30] <runlevelten> I get migraine from thunderstorms :(
[02:30] <runlevelten> or from impending thunderstorms.
[02:36] <BluesKaj> migraines...bummer :(
[02:39] <arun> Firefox just won't open certain pages for me. As in I know they've "loaded", I can see the header on the title bar, but the page is entirely blank. The same pages show up properly in Firefox/Windows, or even in Konqueror. Any ideas as to how I can fix this?
[02:40] <BluesKaj> which sites arun , ones that use a lot of media like youtube or... ?
[02:41] <arun> No, not necessarily. At first I thought it was only with AJAX-based sites, but it seems to happen with a lot of sites.
[02:41] <arun> The problem started recently, about a week or so ago, but I haven't installed any extensions or anything.
[02:41] <ace_> Hi all i'm back
[02:42] <ace_> with a new computer, just can't remember how i install anything :(
[02:42] <ace_> !nvidia
[02:42] <ace_> ???
[02:42] <BluesKaj> hmmm, hate to admit but I think FF kind of sucks on Linux ...been converted to konqueror myself
[02:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:42] <ace_> Anyone here know if 64bit linux gives a big speed boost or not?
[02:43] <arun> BluesKaj: I need to test sites on Firefox, so I need to get it to work properly. Any suggestions?
[02:43] <arun> maybe if i flush my dns cache?
[02:43] <ace_> arun: run windows on a dual boot setup? run windows in VirtualBox?
[02:44] <arun> Yeah, I'm running Windows in VMware, but I'd like to be able to use Firefox natively as well
[02:44] <BluesKaj> not with your symptoms , arun ...sorry ...maybe oner of the heavy hitters can help... runlevelten ?
[02:44] <ace_> Is the ut2004 demo in the repos?
[02:44] <ace_> !easysource
[02:44] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:45] <arun> BluesKaj: can you open this website in firefox? http://www.sabade.org/beta/
[02:45] <BluesKaj> sorry arun , I dumped FF :(
[02:45] <genii> arun Testing now
[02:45] <arun> genii: thanks
[02:46] <arun> it's just a simple blog, won't open
[02:46] <arun> opens in konqueror and ff/win
[02:46] <genii> Loads fine in my FF
[02:46] <genii> Hello world, south Asian Bar Assn etc etc
[02:46] <arun> genii: then I guess something's wrong with it on my computer
[02:46] <arun> Will doing a fresh install help?
[02:46] <BluesKaj> works in opera & konq
[02:47] <arun> Yeah, works in Opera and Konqueror for me as well
[02:47] <arun> Just not in Firefo
[02:47] <arun> x
[02:47] <arun> Ok I got it working now
[02:48] <arun> I was using a Firefox theme. After I disabled the theme, pages load fine now
[02:48] <genii> arun You could do an apt-get --purge remove <name> then reinstall. this will clear out any conf files etc
[02:48] <arun> I didn't know themes can affect Firefox so much
[02:48] <genii> arun Ah, good. At least you know what it is now causing it
[02:49] <ace_> !64bit
[02:49] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[02:49] <arun> Yeah, seems to be fixed now. Aren't themes just supposed to alter the look of Firefox?
[02:49] <genii> arun Maybe email the theme author, possibly they will incorporate a fix in next version of it
[02:50] <arun> Alright, thanks you guys
[02:51] <arun> thanks BluesKaj
[02:52] <genii> BluesKaj: Gotta like it when the big light bulb over someone's head lights up :)
[02:52] <BluesKaj> well, dunno if I helped but the theme prob is good to know , arun
[02:52] <BluesKaj> yeah  genii , no kidding eh :)
[02:53] <stephen_> BluesKaj: how did you get your ATI sondcard working?
[02:54] <BluesKaj> setting up alsa & kmix , stephen_ ...gotta fool with alsamixer in the terminal
[02:54] <stephen_> but my sound card doesnt even work BluesKaj?
[02:55] <stephen_> and how would i fool with alsamixer in terminal?
[02:56] <BluesKaj> and of course , choosing alsa in , system settings/sound system/hardware/select the audio device/ advanced linux audio architecture
[02:56] <arun> Do you guys have any recommended FTP clients? I haven't been able to find a single good one (except Konqueror)
[02:57] <arun> I'm currently using the FireFTP extension (firefox), but I'd rather use a proper application
[02:57] <stephen_> BluesKaj: :) my alsa drivers seem to be working now, before it would say restaring alsa settings but would go on forever
[02:58] <stephen_> butbut still no sound
[02:58] <BluesKaj> stephen_, try this site : http://alsa.opensrc.org/Main_Page
[03:02] <supervisor> Finns detngon hr
[03:03] <BluesKaj> stephen use this site to create the asoundrc file required to get you rsoundcard working: http://www.pcauthority.com.au/print.aspx?CIID=21424&SIID=10
[03:04] <supervisor> Hall!!!
[03:04] <BluesKaj> supervisor, inte har , pa #kubuntu-se och #kubuntu-fi
[03:05] <benpicco> I want to get my printer (Epson DS68) working - jet test is, well, working (looks strage) but when I want to print something, State imediatly goes to 'Error'
[03:05] <benpicco> (i use the drivers from gutenprint)
[03:05] <BluesKaj> supervisor, engelska har
[03:07] <arun> If I am online via ethernet at home, and then take my laptop to a client's office with wifi, will I be able to switch connections easily?
[03:10] <eagles0513875> sup BluesKaj
[03:11] <BluesKaj> hey eagles0513875
[03:11] <eagles0513875> arun: what kinda wifi card u got
[03:12] <arun> eagles0513875: I'm thinking of getting a Dell laptop
[03:13] <eagles0513875> make sure its not a broadcom wifi card
[03:13] <Sini|work> arun: Abaout your Firefox problem. I had that issue once here at my PC at work. The only thing that helped me was deleting my Firefox profile. The reason for this was opening a earlier version of FF (1.5) on the same PC using the same profile the recent version (2.0.x) was using.
[03:13] <eagles0513875> they r head aches to setup
[03:13] <benpicco> any recommendations for my printing problem?
[03:14] <arun> Sini|work: Turns out the problem was because of a Firefox theme I'd installed. As soon as I switched to the regular theme it works well. That's weird, but it works now, so what the heck :)
[03:14] <kalorin_> benpicco: go paperless? :)
[03:14] <arun> Sini|work: thanks, though
[03:16] <Sini|work> arun: hehe okies, I never found out exactly but my guess at that time was also that it might be one of the installed themes/extensions causing that problem.
[03:17] <arun> Sini|work: I thought it might be one of the extensions, but turned out to be the theme. I didn't know themes could affect Firefox like that, but as I said, it works now.
[03:18] <darksheep> moin
[03:19] <jm87> how can interface my ipod with amarok?
[03:19] <darksheep> ich habe ein problem: ich kann unter kubuntu zwar drahtlosnetzwerke finden, diese aber nicht verbinden
[03:19] <BluesKaj> !de | darksheep
[03:19] <ubotu> darksheep: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:20] <genii> You can enter ubuntu once but not afterwards?
[03:20] <arun> Anyone using Virtualbox here?
[03:21] <kalorin_> arun, sorry vmware for me
[03:21] <BluesKaj> ran VB for a while but found it lacking , just like all the other virtuals
[03:21] <jussi_> arun: i have before... whats the issue?
[03:21] <arun> jm87: try this guide http://element14.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/how-to-use-amarok-to-manage-your-ipod-in-linux/
[03:22] <arun> jussi_: i'm using vmware as well, but a lot of people are telling me to ditch vmware for virtualbox, because it is apparently much faster and stable
[03:22] <arun> is that true?
[03:22] <BluesKaj> even vmware server didn't do much for me
[03:22] <jussi_> arun: thats what i found, but I would say try it for yourself
[03:22] <runlevelten> arun: VMware supports USB better and stuff.
[03:23] <arun> vmware server works pretty well for me, and i've set up a samba shared directory that works quite well
[03:24] <jussi_> arun: as I said, give it a go, and see for your self.
[03:24] <runlevelten> I'd always advise trying to go with the Free option, but definitely make sure you check what virtualbox does and doesn't support before you do.
[03:24] <BluesKaj> didn't need vmware to set up samba
[03:26] <arun> I had found a good vmware tutorial online that guided me to set up a samba share and access it from windows
[03:26] <arun> Lot of commands in the terminal
[03:26] <eagles0513875> who wants to use vmware
[03:28] <BluesKaj> if ya want wondows , install it on a separate partition , you can always access it with ntfs-3 and ntfs-config , if need be and when ya wanna run windows apps you have the real thing installed ...that's my rant and opinion for today :)
[03:30] <rjb> hey, since upgrading to feisty i can't get any more that 2-3 hours uptime on my laptop
[03:31] <eagles0513875> rjb: did u do a clean install or a dist-upgrade
[03:31] <rjb> i get overheating issues.. any time i run a long cpu-bound task the temperature soars to 95 C
[03:32] <eagles0513875> do u have enough space between the laptop and the surface its on
[03:32] <rjb> at which point the bios seems to shut down the machine
[03:32] <eagles0513875> if u dont u might wnat to consider getting a cooling bad
[03:32] <eagles0513875> *pad
[03:32] <rjb> sure it's on a regular wooden desk
[03:32] <rjb> true that we're having a nice summer here.. about 30 C or so
[03:33] <rjb> but this didn't happen under edgy, i believe
[03:33] <rjb> to perform a backup i must switch to powersave mode ie. halve the cpu freq
[03:34] <rjb> otherwise i get the overheating
[03:34] <eagles0513875> is there a space though between ur fans and the surface
[03:35] <BluesKaj> rjb, you still need to make sure you have an good airspace between your laptop and your desk
[03:35] <eagles0513875> ya
[03:35] <eagles0513875> rjb: if u dont go out and buy one i have one and they do wonders
[03:36] <rjb> eagles0513875: you mean the cooling pad?
[03:36] <rjb> what's it look like
[03:36] <rjb> ?
[03:36] <eagles0513875> the cooling pad does
[03:36] <eagles0513875> just a plastic pad with 2 fans that suxs the hot air away from ur laptop
[03:36] <eagles0513875> for my machine my lcd screen generates the most heat
[03:37] <rjb> aah so it has its own fans
[03:37] <rjb> in my case it's clearly the cpu
[03:37] <rjb> (amd turion 64)
[03:38] <rjb> it simply can't run at full speed and fully loaded for more than a while
[03:38] <corey> can someone tell me how i can install tar.gz packages?
[03:39] <arun> is it easy to switch from an ethernet connection to wifi and back using kubuntu?
[03:39] <BluesKaj> rbj , you must have a lotta stuff running in the background , athlon 64 here and it's not running hard at all on kubuntu feisty
[03:39] <rjb> BluesKaj: not much i think
[03:39] <rjb> in a desktop machine a get no such problems
[03:39] <SlimeyPete> corey: "tar -xvzf <filename>" will extract files from the .tar.gz. What you have to do after that dependson what the package contains. Check the README or INSTALL file inside the package for information. But in general it is best to avoid .tar.gz and use Synaptic.
[03:39] <rjb> a=I
[03:40] <SlimeyPete> erm, not synaptic, adept
[03:40] <rjb> i'm talking about the case when i stress it a little
[03:40] <rjb> like tar cvjf on a directory of 3 gig or so
[03:41] <corey> adept dont have Frostwire tho
[03:41] <Sini|work> rjb: Are you sure the feisty upgrade is the reason? If your laptop is one using fans by itself it might be those fans just got dusty enough over time to run slower now.
[03:41] <genii> SlimeyPete: I make that booboo too, I'm always in both #ubuntu and #kubuntu
[03:41] <SlimeyPete> genii: good to know it's not just me
[03:42] <rjb> Sini|work: hmm yeah i guess i ought to check out that dust thing
[03:43] <rjb> but it rarely manages to get a task like that done anyway, it hangs for some other reason too
[03:43] <rjb> ndiswrapper, maybe
[03:44] <rjb> (didn't hang it under edgy, though)
[03:46] <eagles0513875> rjb: what kida wifi card u got
[03:46] <rjb> broadcom 4318
[03:48] <rjb> i've been driving it with ndiswrapper since i got the machine (about 18 mths ago)
[03:48] <rjb> never had any issues
[03:49] <rjb> not with edgy, nor with the previous issue
[03:49] <eagles0513875> rjb dudei have a link u will love let me get it
[03:50] <rjb> ?
[03:52] <eagles0513875> it will help u get ur wifi working
[03:53] <eagles0513875> rjb: take a look at this http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices
[03:55] <rjb> eagles0513875: c'mon, i know that
[03:55] <rjb> it's very flaky for my card
[03:55] <rjb> sometimes takes up to an hour to connect to an ap
[03:55] <eagles0513875> wow
[03:56] <eagles0513875> rjb: i noticed u were talking bout ndiswrapper for some reason in kubuntu its split into 3 pkgs
[03:57] <Pringlesss> ciao ragazzi
[03:57] <Pringlesss> c' qualcuno che pu aiutarmi?
[03:57] <rjb> but since it doesn't seem to work i stopped trying & went back to ndiswrapper
[03:57] <rjb> !it | Pringless
[03:57] <ubotu> Pringless: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:58] <rjb> oops
[03:58] <Pringlesss> grazie
[03:58] <Pringlesss> thanks
[03:59] <rjb> anyway when i did manage to connect to my ap & activate the ip interface
[03:59] <rjb> the driver flooded my logfiles with warning messages (or possibly errors, i don't recalll)
[04:00] <rjb> didn't seem too trustworty
[04:03] <eagles0513875> humm
[04:03] <eagles0513875> interestin
[04:03] <seth> i installed strong dc++ 2.0.1
[04:03] <seth> can anyone tell me how to lounch it?
[04:03] <rjb> btw the page says it's not very stable on a 4318
[04:04] <rjb> the bcm43xx driver, i mean
[04:07] <grul> hello, can someone tell me how to install all the standard man pages, like "man exec" "man open" etc.
[04:10] <rjb> $ aptitude search manpages
[04:11] <graft> anyone here proficient with ktorrent?
[04:11] <rjb> then you see that no swedish manpages are available
[04:12] <graft> i'm trying to download only some files from a very large torrent, and it is taking much longer than it should
[04:12] <rjb> but if english is ok, then:
[04:12] <graft> also it says '2% complete' for some of the files i'm NOT downloading, even though there is no image on disk for them... what's going on?
[04:12] <rjb> $ aptitude install manpages manpages-dev
[04:15] <rjb> o u might also include manpages-posix and manpages-posix-dev
[04:15] <rjb> i imagine they might be useful
[04:16] <jono> does anyone know how to get the movie/picture file icons in konqueror to become thumbnails?
[04:16] <graft> yeah, there's a plugin for it
[04:16] <graft> but it has to be installed separately
[04:16] <graft> there's probably several plugins for it
[04:17] <jono> graft: are you talking to me?
[04:17] <graft> jono: yep
[04:17] <graft> sudo apt-get install mplayerthumbs
[04:17] <jono> graft: thanks
[04:19] <Brutha_> Hi. Can anyone tell me how to get libgl.a for Feisty Fawn? I can't find it anywhere
[04:20] <rjb> hmm there is no mplayerthumbs in my configured repositories
[04:22] <jono> graft: it said it couldn't find the package
[04:24] <BluesKaj> Brutha_, is that the correct name of the file or app ?
[04:25] <Brutha_> of the file.. Should be an open gl file, but I installed all relating packages already with Synaptic
[04:26] <BluesKaj> lots of libgl output from a  ' sudo apt-cache search libgl '
[04:27] <vzduch> BluesKaj: why do you apt-cache search w/ sudo?
[04:27] <BluesKaj> hmm, just a habit i guess
[04:28] <Budwaa> I have a few apps i need to run in ndows xp and i would like to set it up in a virtual machine. Any recommendations for which VM to use?
[04:28] <graft> jono: you can get it on kde-apps.org and compile it yourself
[04:28] <Brutha_> BluesKaj: It shouldbe in one of the mesa or glut packages. I installed all of them and most of the stuff in the list I get from that apt-cache
[04:29] <BluesKaj> vmware server has a free version
[04:29] <vzduch> BluesKaj: what exactly are you looking for?
[04:30] <pauljw_vm> vmware server is free, just not open.
[04:30] <graft> Brutha_: there's a libGL.a in libdevel/libgl1-mesa-swx11-dev
[04:30] <BluesKaj> not me vzduch , Brutha_ is lookibng for libgl.a
[04:31] <vzduch> there has been a 'whatprovides' switch in one of the apt cmdline tools, but I can't find it back :(
[04:31] <BluesKaj> nice search , graft
[04:31] <evjunior09> Okay someone, i need help gettin sun-java5-jre,  sun-java6-jre, sun-java5-jdk, sun-java6-jdk
[04:32] <Brutha_> graft: If I try to install it it wants to remove my graphics driver and 30 other packages
[04:32] <graft> well, that sucks
[04:33] <jono> graft: thanks...i just installed the xine preview and it seams to be working fine
[04:33] <graft> goldurnit - where should i go for ktorrent help?
[04:33] <graft> jono: nice. the mplayer one is supposedly much faster
[04:33] <patrick_> Please help me to solve the problem about browsing youtube.com
[04:33] <evjunior09> blueskaj: could you maybe sorta help me out.. i need help gettin sun-java5-jre,  sun-java6-jre, sun-java5-jdk, sun-java6-jdk
[04:34] <jono> graft: i might check it out then...thanks for the feedback
[04:34] <Riyoxke> configure: error: Terminfo/termcap not found - install ncurses-devel package
[04:34] <Riyoxke> :F
[04:34] <vzduch> perhaps I am mixing up things.. 'whatprovides' seems to be there in rpm and yum, but not in apt
[04:35] <Brutha_> Ah I think i found it
[04:35] <graft> patrick_: what is your problem? that would help us solve it
[04:35] <BluesKaj> evjunior09, I'm kinda confused about what java requirements are for different browsers and apps so i'm afraid to lead you astray
[04:35] <graft> did sun patch their huge java security hole?
[04:35] <evjunior09> oh, well i need if for limewire
[04:35] <Riyoxke> configure: error: Terminfo/termcap not found - install ncurses-devel package <- Can anyone help me? I can only find *.rpm's
[04:36] <graft> evjunior09: get gtk-gnutella, it's better than limewire
[04:36] <runlevelten> vzduch: you're thinking of aptfile
[04:36] <evjunior09> when i try to use Adept Manager it dosent bring up anything
[04:36] <vzduch> evjunior09: just install it
[04:36] <runlevelten> *apt-file
[04:36] <BluesKaj> FF patched 4 security holes yesterday ...saw it on wifeys pc
[04:36] <graft> evjunior09: and it doesn't need java
[04:36] <pag> Riyoxke, sudo apt-get install ncurses-dev  ?
[04:36] <evjunior09> vzduch: how do i install it without java?
[04:36] <patrick_> When I pressed the '>>' dialogue box in the bottom of the youtube web-page. I got a error message about server timeout... But in Windows XP environment, I have got any problem.
[04:37] <Riyoxke> pag: thanks, it's installing now :p
[04:37] <Riyoxke> hope that'll will work noow
[04:37] <patrick_> ...No problem in Windows XP, I mean...
[04:37] <pag> Riyoxke, what are you trying to do?
[04:37] <vzduch> evjunior09: I mean, install Java
[04:37] <vzduch> runlevelten: thx :)
[04:37] <Riyoxke> trying to install irssi
[04:38] <vzduch> Riyoxke: no need to try, just do it :)
[04:38] <evjunior09> graft: where do i find gtk-gnutella?
[04:38] <pag> Riyoxke, sudo apt-get install irssi
[04:38] <graft> evjunior09: sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[04:38] <Riyoxke> it's already installed but i couldnt run it because of that error
[04:38] <pag> Riyoxke, or if you want to compile install all depencies: sudo apt-get build-dep irssi
[04:38] <graft> patrick_: what '>>' button?
[04:38] <Sini|work> Brutha_: Try dpkg-query -S "*libGL.a"
[04:38] <runlevelten> vzduch: np
[04:39] <evjunior09> graft: it says it couldnt find package
[04:39] <vzduch> evjunior09: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre
[04:39] <graft> evjunior09: what are you running? edgy? feisty?
[04:39] <vzduch> evjunior09: and be sure to have Multiverse enabled
[04:39] <evjunior09> feisty
[04:39] <graft> it is in feisty for sure
[04:39] <patrick_> I mean to press '>>' button for the next web page
[04:39] <graft> evjunior09: it is in universe
[04:40] <graft> !universe > evjunior09
[04:40] <graft> !botsnack
[04:40] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:40] <hero> they should disable that command
[04:41] <graft> why?
[04:41] <graft> it's useful as a ping
[04:41] <hero> oh. never thought of it that way
[04:41] <hero> OR you could just use ping :P
[04:41] <vzduch> otoh, it'd be a bit boring if the bot only had 'useful' commands ;)
[04:41] <graft> !ping
[04:41] <ubotu> pong
[04:41] <hero> heh
[04:41] <graft> hmm... well !botsnack is more fun :)
[04:42] <hero> and then someone does the botabuse command
[04:42] <runlevelten> Heh, !botpuke should be ZENworks.
[04:42] <vzduch> hero: yeah, if you keep doing that..
[04:42] <hero> i've seen the botabuse junk when someone runs one command
[04:42] <hero> people here often use that bot to boss people around
[04:42] <runlevelten> !examine Smaug
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about examine smaug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <runlevelten> :)
[04:42] <hero> but it's useful
[04:44] <evjunior09> graft: okay well my universe and multiverse are enabbled
[04:45] <evjunior09> so im kinda lost why it wont work
[04:45] <DebItalo> how to installl grub
[04:45] <hero> !grub
[04:45] <hero> aww :(
[04:45] <pag> evjunior09, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache search sun-java
[04:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:46] <elite> hey i am running kubuntu 6.0 and was wondering on how to install a flashplayer to get youtube.com or any other online videos to work?
[04:46] <pag> evjunior09, that should output the choise of packages  they can be installed with sudo apt-get install packagename
[04:47] <evjunior09> pag: wait...so put the "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache search sun-java" in the command line?
[04:47] <pag> evjunior09, yup... (you can drop the second sudo; it's useless)
[04:48] <evjunior09> Pag: okay now how do i install Java
[04:48] <pag> evjunior09, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[04:48] <evjunior09> Pag: i need these versions: sun-java5-jre,  sun-java6-jre, sun-java5-jdk, sun-java6-jdk
[04:49] <evjunior09> pag:
[04:49] <evjunior09> Package sun-java6-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:49] <evjunior09> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:49] <evjunior09> is only available from another source
[04:49] <evjunior09> E: Package sun-java6-jre has no installation candidate
[04:49] <evjunior09> i know, Pastebin i forgot
[04:49] <pag> evjunior09, do you have multiverse enabled?
[04:49] <evjunior09> yes
[04:50] <pag> have you ran sudo apt-get update?
[04:50] <evjunior09> no
[04:50] <pag> try that first
[04:50] <evjunior09> wait yes
[04:51] <evjunior09> Pag: yes i already did that
[04:51] <pag> evjunior09, what platform are you running?  ( uname -m  can tell you that)
[04:51] <evjunior09> uname -m?
[04:51] <pag> evjunior09, yup. put that on the command line
[04:51] <evjunior09> i686
[04:52] <pag> evjunior09, sorry for suspecting, but at this very moment it really seems like you don't have multiverse enabled.... pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:53] <evjunior09> Okay how do i enable pastebin with 7.04
[04:53] <vzduch> !pastebin
[04:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:53] <pag>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:54] <evjunior09> pag: i mean...not pastebin! i mean Multiverse!
[04:54] <evjunior09> lol haha wow im tired
[04:54] <pag> !multiverse | evjunior09
[04:54] <ubotu> evjunior09: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:55] <evjunior09> ust select the options you want to activate, or enter the repository URL in the Third-Party Software tab, and hit Close. Now hit Reload when you're advised to reload the information about available software. You will now be able to get packages from the activated repositories.
[04:55] <evjunior09> what URL are they talking about?
[04:56] <stephen_> in the config file
[04:56] <stephen_> i thin
[04:56] <stephen_> k
[04:56] <pag> evjunior09, multivere isn't third-party, so you don't have to care about it atm
[04:58] <Sini|work> I think multiverse can be enabled in the "Kubuntu software" Tab in Software Sources
[04:58] <elite> hey is linux (kubuntu) do you use .rpm ? or .tar.gz for flashplayer?
[04:58] <vzduch> neither nor
[04:58] <pag> !flash | elite
[04:58] <ubotu> elite: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:58] <hero> what webpages should i look at if i want to know more about and protect my system against attacks that originate from irc?
[04:58] <pag> elite, and Ubuntu uses .deb
[04:58] <evjunior09> Pag: wait...im sooo lost, can you help me out. Im at this little window thats says software sources
[04:59] <elite> okay thanks
[04:59] <esto_es_de_risa> Hello, I have no sound! I did install kubuntu yesterday and all ok, but today I lost the sound. Any idea?
[04:59] <Ace2016> Hi all
[04:59] <vzduch> !sound
[04:59] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:59] <elite> i thought it was but the option was not there when you download the flashplayer from adobe website
[04:59] <mefisto__> trying to use Kcron, but can't seem to get it to start ktorrent. I've entered the full path (/usr/bin/ktorrent) and have the task enabled, but it won't start, even though cron seems to start it according to system logs
[04:59] <pag> evjunior09, I can try, but I'm not used to graphical package-managment...
[05:00] <evjunior09> pag: okay thanks =D
[05:00] <Sini|work> evjunior09: click the "Kubuntu Software" Tab, there should be an option named multiverse, enable it
[05:00] <esto_es_de_risa> vzduch: but yesterday I had sound
[05:00] <evjunior09> Universe and Multiverse arnt checked...hmm weird
[05:00] <evjunior09> but i checked up
[05:00] <hero> !dos
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:01] <evjunior09> *checked em
[05:01] <evjunior09> pag: now do i hit close?
[05:01] <vzduch> esto_es_de_risa: and today you don't, so check all mixer and soundsystem options :)
[05:01] <pag> evjunior09, probably?  or if there's 'save' you should hit that :-/
[05:02] <rjb> fuck, another overheating shutdown
[05:02] <Sini|work> evjunior09: Hit Close, it will then ask you to update, answer this with yes
[05:02] <evjunior09> yep thats what i just did
[05:02] <evjunior09> sinijworK: thanks though
[05:02] <pag> rjb, watch your language, please.
[05:02] <rjb> sorry
[05:03] <Ace2016> rjb: does kubuntu shutdown when its overheating?
[05:03] <evjunior09> pag: okay there both enabled. Now what do i do
[05:03] <pag> evjunior09, now install the packages you need
[05:04] <mefisto__> evjunior09: fetch updates first
[05:04] <pag> Ace2016, every decent system does.
[05:05] <jhutchins> Actually, most BIOSs shut the system down if it overheats.
[05:05] <rjb> Ace2016: i believe it's te bios that does it
[05:05] <jhutchins> Ayuh.
[05:05] <Ace2016> rjb: oh ok
[05:06] <mefisto__> kcron help, anyone?
[05:06] <vzduch> I don' see the point in running KTorrent as a cron job
[05:06] <Hirvinen> !ask | mefisto__
[05:06] <ubotu> mefisto__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:07] <rjb> ktemperature shows like 95 C just before it shuts down
[05:07] <vzduch> 95C.. your CPU should be fried by now..
[05:07] <mefisto__> vzduch: I want it to start/stop ktorrent so it only downloads during offpeak hours, to save monthly bandwidth limits
[05:08] <mefisto__> Hirvinen: see my question above, at 00:59
[05:08] <rjb> unless i use powersave mode the temp. goes over limit quite frequently
[05:10] <vzduch> rjb: then run to your nearest parts supplier & buy parts to upgrade your cooling :)
[05:11] <mefisto__> I have 2 tasks set in kcron, one to start and one to stop ktorrent. It stops just fine, but starting it doesn't work, unless I start it manually from the kcron window
[05:11] <rjb> vzduch: this is a laptop, and a fairly new one
[05:12] <elite> hey anyone know what line to put in for termanal for java6?
[05:12] <vzduch> chronic overheating could be a reason for a return..
[05:12] <pag> elite, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[05:12] <kalorin_> man I'm so glad I have all these old school friends that care for me enough to send me greeting cards...
[05:13] <elite> pag, thanks
[05:13] <pag> elite, np.
[05:14] <elite> it still wont find the packages!!
[05:14] <Hirvinen> mefisto__: No, I wouldn't. Firstly, I have no idea what time zone you are in. Secondly, this channel has enough traffic for lines to pass out of sight relatively quickly, so you can just ask the question again some time later. Thirdly, I'm not familiar with kcron, so I couldn't help you except giving advice on how to seek that help.
[05:15] <mefisto__> Hirvinen: when I repeat a question, people tell me not to repeat. Makes it difficult either way to ask questions
[05:16] <jhutchins> mefisto__: be sure to use full path names and escape illegal characters.
[05:16] <jhutchins> mefisto__: It's ok to repeat say, once an hour, thirty minutes.  Less than fifteen minutes is too often.
[05:16] <mefisto__> jhutchins: /usr/bin/ktorrent should start it, right?
[05:17] <jhutchins> mefisto__: It works in console?
[05:18] <mefisto__> yes
[05:18] <elite> i find kubuntu or any other linux distros to run faster and view webpages faster with using wireless because the os is using the wireless card to its full capacity (i think) than M$ windows
[05:18] <jhutchins> mefisto__: You may need to specify the display output, I don't think cron has access to xauth.
[05:18] <elite> is yellow dog linux any good? has anyone ever heard of it?
[05:19] <mefisto__> jhutchins: how do I specify display output?
[05:19] <SlimeyPete> elite: it's mostly famous for running on macs and ps3s
[05:19] <elite> yeah
[05:19] <elite> thought so
[05:19] <elite> but can a linux do parellel? run windows on it kinda like a mac does?
[05:20] <SlimeyPete> well, you can use virtualbox/qemu/vmware to do that
[05:20] <elite> all thought i wouldnt but can you?
[05:20] <elite> they say vista is the best in security?
[05:20] <SlimeyPete> supposedly so
[05:20] <vzduch> who says that? o0
[05:21] <devnull> Does anyone know if amarok 1.4.6 is compiled with mtp support by default?
[05:21] <Daisuke_Ido> vzduch: mentally handicapped squirrels
[05:21] <Daisuke_Ido> devnull: it is afaik
[05:22] <Daisuke_Ido> it works with my mtp player, at least :)
[05:22] <Daisuke_Ido> sansa ftw!
[05:22] <devnull> Ok sounds good. My dad has a philips gogear hdd082, and I was trying to confirm it would work properly
[05:22] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, and parallels workstation is available for linux, so if your processor supports it, you can do virtualization rather than emulation
[05:22] <devnull> And so far it appears that linux is the only OS they can't mess up
[05:23] <mimik> anyone know how to make firefox start maximized?
[05:23] <devnull> maximize it
[05:23] <devnull> then close it properly
[05:25] <mimik> that worked, thanks, do i have to close it properly every time, or will that one time do the trick?
[05:25] <devnull> Should be fine now, just dont resize it and close it properly
[05:26] <devnull> It saves the window dimensions on close and restores them
[05:26] <mimik> great
[05:26] <mefisto__> mimik: I think it should open up in the state it was last in
[05:26] <mimik> thanks
[05:27] <evjunior09> hey guys, my adept crashed....how do i stop it?
[05:28] <pag> !aptfix | evjunior09
[05:28] <ubotu> evjunior09: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:29] <pag> evjunior09, btw; That's *exactly* the reason, why I stoppet using GUI pkg-managment ;P
[05:29] <elite> can you upgrade kopete? or atleast have a display pic? for other users to see
[05:29] <elite> im using a msn protocol!
[05:29] <evjunior09> Pag: yeah its annoying
[05:30] <pag> elite, settings -> Accounts -> modify -> User-info -tab
[05:30] <elite> okay
[05:30] <pag> elite, if you use only MSN I'd reccomend KMess instead of Kopete
[05:30] <elite> do i have that in kubuntu 6.0? i havent updated this at all so
[05:31] <evjunior09> it says this when i try to install Java
[05:31] <evjunior09> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[05:31] <ryanakca> elite: yes, `sudo aptitude install kmess`
[05:32] <elite> okay
[05:32] <pag> evjunior09, install java via apt-get  (that way it'll at least output the error msg that I would understand :)
[05:32] <elite> i just started using kubuntu i acuttally use windows but like this better. Some people i know only use liux never touched windows at all
[05:33] <evjunior09> pag: so what command? sudo apt-get...what
[05:34] <pag> evjunior09, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre  (lets start only with this one)
[05:34] <elite> i heard of a program called WINE it lets some windows programs work on kubuntu but sometimes doesnt always work not sure if it works for games? any one tried
[05:34] <dr_willis> !wine
[05:34] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:34] <evjunior09> Elite: yeah not many big programs work with it
[05:34] <dr_willis> wine may or may not work.. depends on the program.
[05:34] <evjunior09> i.e iTunes, AIM
[05:35] <dr_willis> There are linux native alternatives to many of those programs. (often better in many ways)
[05:35] <ksivaji> hi dr_willis
[05:35] <evjunior09> pag:
[05:35] <dr_willis> Howey ksivaji
[05:35] <evjunior09> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[05:35] <evjunior09> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:35] <evjunior09>   sun-java6-jre: Depends: sun-java6-bin (= 6-00-2ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed or
[05:35] <evjunior09>                           ia32-sun-java6-bin (= 6-00-2ubuntu2) but it is not installable
[05:35] <evjunior09> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[05:35] <dr_willis> run the         apt-get -f install    - like it suggested yet?
[05:35] <dr_willis> with a sudo on the front, of course
[05:35] <pag> evjunior09, it even tells you what to do, ain't that nice :)
[05:36] <ksivaji> evjunior09 use sudo aptitude sun-java6-jre
[05:36] <dr_willis> it just said might.. :) heh...
[05:36] <ksivaji> evjunior09 use sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[05:36] <arun> what are your favourite window decorations?
[05:36] <ksivaji> arun hi
[05:36] <dr_willis> arun,  i tend to just use 'pastik' theme
[05:36] <pag> arun, I use Domino... it's nice enought for me
[05:37] <dr_willis> i want the buttons clear, and obvious. :)
[05:38] <elite> i know there is better programs and stuff just wondering is games work like .exe? or can i install say F.E.A.R? (its a game)
[05:38] <laodie> ?
[05:38] <elite> for wine*
[05:39] <evjunior09> elite: to be honest, wine isnt a very good program
[05:39] <pag> elite, most games use directX  and Wine lacs support for that
[05:39] <evjunior09> elite: ive tried 10 programs...didnt get any workin
[05:39] <arun> domino seems nice
[05:39] <arun> i'm using polyester
[05:40] <ksivaji> i think one more software is there like wine to run windows games in linux
[05:40] <arun> cedega
[05:40] <MaTiAz> yeah
[05:40] <mefisto__> elite: it will run a text editor or something simple like that, but the more sophisticated, the less likely it will work
[05:40] <arun> is there any way to get gtk apps like firefox to use the kde styles for buttons, text boxes, etc?
[05:40] <arun> i mean buttons on websites
[05:40] <ksivaji> !cedega
[05:40] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[05:41] <mefisto__> arun: there are websites explaining how to make firefox kde-friendly. try google
[05:41] <usamahashimi> hello everyone!
[05:41] <Kr4t05> arun: In Kcontrol, there should be a dialog that says "For GTK applications use: (RADIO BUTTON) My KDE theme (RADIO BUTTON) A different theme"
[05:42] <elite> mefisto_, i think thats binary i mean run a windows game under WINE*
[05:42] <usamahashimi> which king of Video Card is best support in kubuntu, NVIDIA, GeForce or some else?
[05:42] <elite> NVIDIA kicks ati butt haha
[05:43] <Kr4t05> usamahashimi: Currently, nvidia's linux drivers are superior to ATi's
[05:43] <arun> Kr4t05: Yeah, I've set it over there, but it doesn't seem to be making much difference
[05:43] <arun> I still see ugly buttons
[05:43] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[05:43] <damien_> Hey guys, Anyone know why I can't delete my Junkmail in Hotmail, It works fine on my windows partition :/
[05:43] <lied> hi
[05:43] <evjunior09> Hey thanks guys, i got java workin, along with Limewire
[05:43] <Kr4t05> arun: Lemme see, this might help with Firefox. http://www.konqufox.fr
[05:44] <BluesKaj> pag, do you remember how to reset konqueror back to Filemanager status rather than default browser status ?
[05:44] <lied> i have trouble downloading my emails via IMAP
[05:44] <lied> i use kmail
[05:44] <evjunior09> for some reason yesturday, i unplugged my monitor and my whole system freaked. thats why i had to re-install Kubuntu
[05:44] <Kr4t05> arun: Ooops, bad URL
[05:44] <rjb> did matrox go out of business? some years ago i recall matrox cards were quite well supported
[05:44] <pag> BluesKaj, Settings -> View Profile  ?
[05:45] <Kr4t05> arun: http://konquefox.free.fr/index.html
[05:45] <Kr4t05> There ya go. ;)
[05:45] <arun> Kr4t05: found it myself, thanks
[05:45] <arun> this seems cool
[05:45] <arun> do you use it?
[05:46] <Daisuke_Ido> matrox is sorta still around
[05:46] <usamahashimi> hello everyone!
[05:46] <rjb> doesn't seem to be around much on the consumer market
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> no, not really
[05:47] <usamahashimi> which king of Video Card is best supported in kubuntu, NVIDIA, GeForce or some else?
[05:47] <rjb> (what's a "king of Video Card"?)
[05:47] <elite_> im using a nvidia vanata or vanta? works fine with me
[05:48] <elite_> Geforce 8800
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> usamahashimi: geforce IS nvidia
[05:48] <usamahashimi> Daisuke_Ido: sorry, i dont know much about video cards
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> and nvidia cards tend to be well supported
[05:48] <elite_> Nvidia GEFORCE 8800, 7800
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> !es | lombra
[05:48] <ubotu> lombra: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:49] <usamahashimi> Daisuke_Ido: can you guide me that which card i buy so my kubuntu support is?
[05:49] <arun> Kr4t05: do you use konquefox?
[05:49] <usamahashimi> it*?
[05:49] <vzduch> Daisuke_Ido: that was (1) Portuguese, (2) an auto-away msg
[05:49] <dr_willis> about any nvidia based card will do ya.
[05:49] <usamahashimi> Daisuke_Ido: support it*?
[05:49] <Daisuke_Ido> usamahashimi: i would personally recommend a card in the geforce 6 or 7 line
[05:49] <dr_willis> depends on your budget and needs.
[05:49] <elite_> does kubuntu constantly reload drivers so that u can exchange another hdd to another pc and everything will work fine?
[05:49] <Daisuke_Ido> vzduch: oops x2
[05:49] <dr_willis> elite_,  ive had that work.. and ive had that not work real well.. :)
[05:50] <dr_willis> depends on the systems you are switching to/from i guess.
[05:50] <elite_> lol
[05:50] <Kr4t05> arun: I use Firefox with the Konquefox extension, yes. Konquefox isn't really a fork of Firefox, but a set of tweaks, hacks and extensions that make the FIrefox UI a tab more KDE-friendly. ;)
[05:50] <arun> Yeah, I got that
[05:50] <dr_willis> one one box. ages ago. (it may be better now) it dident get some of the MB modules loaded it needed.
[05:50] <usamahashimi> Daisuke_Ido: can you tell me that from where i can get information about that cards (i.e 6 or 7)?
[05:50] <elite_> windows sucks from xp anyways it doesnt always reload drivers sometimes rarley and u have to go into system setting and driver manager thing and delete evrything
[05:50] <dr_willis> and sound cards may confuse it.
[05:50] <rjb> vzduch: WHAT was portuguese?
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> nvidia.com
[05:50] <arun> Kr4t05: for some reason, whenever i set gtk apps to use Qt, it reverts back to the default
[05:51] <arun> i have gtk-qt-engine installed
[05:51] <vzduch> rjb: [17:49:02]   * lombra esta fora: Saindo por enquanto.
[05:51] <rjb> ah ok
[05:51] <pag> arun, QtCurve is a really nice theme for both, Gnome and KDE ;)
[05:52] <dr_willis> soon it will be Knome! :)
[05:52] <arun> QtCurve?
[05:52] <mefisto__> arun: my vote is for QtCurve too
[05:52] <elite_> a lot of people run linux on older pc's becuase i gues there better? i am running emachines 550Mhz 256mb/SDram
[05:52] <ksivaji> !knome
[05:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:52] <pag> arun, look it up @ kde-look.org
[05:52] <dr_willis> I got it going on a Pent 1 233mmx :)
[05:52] <elite_> lol
[05:52] <elite_> mmx
[05:53] <dr_willis> Yep - that makes it so much better!
[05:53] <vzduch> I have Kubuntu on an Athlon 900 for daily enjoyment :)
[05:53] <elite_> i remeber along time ago i saw a p2 or pent1 with dou core it came up to only like 450/500Mhz?
[05:53] <arun> pag: yeah, seems nice
[05:53] <arun> Do I need to install both the GTK and KDE versions separately?
[05:54] <pag> arun, yup.
[05:54] <pag> arun, that's the way you can achieve conscienty between Qt and GTK
[05:55] <elite_> what is the lowest mhz? on a acutal pc? 100?
[05:55] <elite_> like a commondore64 the support the internet lol
[05:55] <rjb> oh how cool, one can get rid of the stupid gnome filechooser in firefox
[05:55] <arun> how do i install new styles
[05:55] <dr_willis> I had a Pent 1 100mhz with Ubuntu on it befor.
[05:55] <elite_> wow
[05:56] <elite_> was it slow?
[05:56] <dr_willis> laptop even.
[05:56] <arun> rjb: yup, i just saw that too
[05:56] <dr_willis> took forever to install..but it ran ok.
[05:56] <pag> arun, there're .deb's at kde-look too :)
[05:56] <dr_willis> i used the console mainly
[05:56] <rjb> elite_: i first ran linux on a 33MHz 386
[05:56] <elite_> wow
[05:56] <elite_> 33
[05:56] <rjb> AND X11 was nearly usable
[05:56] <arun> pag: i just downloaded a tar.gz
[05:56] <s0nix> hi, i want to know: is it possible to REDOWNLOAD (not reinstall) all INSTALLED packages with apt-get ?
[05:57] <rjb> fvwm v.1 iirc
[05:57] <pag> arun, then it can be compiled as any other programm  ./configure && make && sudo make install
[05:57] <pag> !b-e | arun
[05:57] <ubotu> arun: Compiling software from source?  Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:59] <elite_> the most secure os i think is
[05:59] <PriceChild> !ohmy | arun
[05:59] <ubotu> arun: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:59] <dr_willis> I ran CPM on a ROck! :)
[05:59] <arun> PriceChild: sorry
[05:59] <rjb> w95 was the first to support tcp/ip out of the box
[06:00] <elite_> the most secure os in the world
[06:00] <elite_> DOS
[06:00] <elite_> haha
[06:00] <dr_willis> GEOS
[06:00] <dr_willis> :0
[06:00] <elite_> lol
[06:00] <genii> rjb No, it was WFW 3.11
[06:00] <genii> (tcp out of the box)
[06:00] <elite_> u have to but the tape deck in press record and then wait for the whole tape to record and u get a simple game like pong
[06:01] <dr_willis> elite_,  i have several tape players for my C64 and Vic20
[06:01] <rjb> genii: i might be wrong but i recall having to install somthing called trumpet winsock on 3.11 to access the i'net
[06:01] <dr_willis> :)
[06:01] <rjb> but then, maybe that was with 3.1
[06:01] <pag> guys.. really; that conversation is really getting far away from topic.  So would you mind moving to -offtopic, please?
[06:02] <elite_> lol
[06:02] <elite_> sorry
[06:02] <genii> rjb It needed winsock for dialup but you could have tcp/ip networking LAN
[06:02] <dr_willis> so now ther will be NO conversataion in here for the next hr...
[06:02] <dr_willis> :P
[06:02] <genii> pag Yes, you are right
[06:02] <elite_> wait where can i download and install aircrack and airsnort?
[06:03] <dr_willis> !find aircrack
[06:03] <ubotu> Found: aircrack, aircrack-ng
[06:03] <BluesKaj> at aircoke
[06:03] <Arcer> hi
[06:03] <dr_willis> !find airsnort
[06:03] <ubotu> Found: airsnort
[06:03] <Arcer> excuse me
[06:03] <arun> what's aircrack and airsnort do?
[06:03] <Arcer> i suggest you
[06:03] <dr_willis> !info airsnort
[06:03] <ubotu> airsnort: WLAN sniffer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7e-1.1 (feisty), package size 49 kB, installed size 180 kB
[06:03] <arun> i thought this was a family friendly channel :)
[06:03] <Arcer> to use a live distro
[06:03] <Arcer> like
[06:03] <Arcer> backtrack 2 for this work
[06:04] <elite_> aircrack sniffs out weak air packets and trys and gets a WEP key for u to well piggyback on someone else's signal
[06:04] <Arcer> is slax based and it have an high compatiblity whit most device
[06:05] <elite_> lol i think i am the youngest in this channel. i know to much about computers
[06:05] <elite_> for my age anyways
[06:06] <BluesKaj> elite_, be careful what you brag about ...
[06:06] <Arcer> lol
[06:06] <arun> especially in this channel
[06:07] <arun> elite_ how old are you?/
[06:07] <Riyoxke> so how old are you?
[06:07] <BluesKaj> no kidding arun ...
[06:07] <Riyoxke> 10?
[06:07] <Riyoxke> :p
[06:07] <rjb> elite_: computers != pc's
[06:07] <rjb> there's quite a bit more
[06:07] <Arcer> rjb true :D
[06:07] <arun> i totally love knotes.. i just discovered how useful it can be today
[06:08] <Arcer> if he spoke of aircrack and he know the matter
[06:08] <Arcer> he must know algebric methods and crittografic characteristic of wep
[06:08] <Arcer> (excuse me for my english i'am italian)
[06:09] <vzduch> Arcer: being a non-English native speaker is no excuse for bad English :P
[06:09] <vzduch> (just kidding)
[06:09] <Arcer> thank :D
[06:10] <BluesKaj> knotes rocks ...very handy lil app
[06:10] <rjb> hmm make that "non-native speaker of English", perhaps?;P
[06:10] <vzduch> rjb: possibly :D
[06:10] <pauljw_vm> Arcer: hey, we can understand your english, more than can be said about my italian... :)
[06:11] <BluesKaj> I speak english , but not native , my version is canadjun :)
[06:11] <spawn57> basket kicks knotes' ass over the moon
[06:11] <MaTiAz> I still gotta get rid of my bad habit of spelling 'probably' as 'propably'
[06:11] <Arcer> pauljw_vm: Is very easy IItalian :P
[06:11] <rjb> wasn't it "probbly"?;)
[06:11] <arun> spawn: what's basket
[06:11] <Arcer> what you read is what you wrote
[06:11] <Arcer> write
[06:11] <Arcer> lol
[06:11] <vzduch> Arcer: no insult, but I think Spanish is easier ;)
[06:11] <laodie>
[06:12] <arun> laodie brings out the big guns
[06:12] <BluesKaj> MaTiAz, try " prolly "
[06:12] <vzduch> !zh | laodie
[06:12] <ubotu> laodie: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[06:12] <spawn57> haha ubuntu hong kong, for real?
[06:12] <BluesKaj> !cn | laodie
[06:12] <ubotu> laodie: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[06:12] <Arcer> :D
[06:13] <spawn57> damn I dind't think there were many linux users here
[06:13] <spawn57> I got one of my co workers into it though.
[06:13] <Arcer> so i'm looking for a software to transform swf file in avi file....someone know something?
[06:13] <vzduch> never heard of such software, but would be interesting :)
[06:14] <spawn57> would be strange too, people convert the other way
[06:14] <arun> Arcer: Is it swf or flv
[06:14] <Arcer> swf
[06:14] <Arcer> flash
[06:14] <vzduch> spawn57: well, there has to be a way for MTV showing Happy Tree Friends ;)
[06:14] <elite_> ohh sorry
[06:14] <elite_> i was bussy lol i am 14
[06:15] <dr_willis> swf to avi.. easy
[06:15] <arun> If you can convert the swf to flv (flash video) using Macromedia flash, then it's easy to convert to avi
[06:15] <dr_willis> ffmpeg can do that
[06:15] <laodie>
[06:15] <dr_willis> i do belive.
[06:15] <spawn57> available on dvd =D
[06:15] <arun> or follow dr_willis' method
[06:15] <dr_willis> Oh wait.. i may be confuised..
[06:15] <vzduch> laodie: English please
[06:15] <dr_willis> hmm..  i know ya can convert flv to avi.
[06:15] <Arcer> yes dr_willis but i use ffmpeg but the output is a file unreadble
[06:16] <spawn57> i dare you to printscreen everything and string'em up into an mpeg
[06:16] <arun> Arcer: is it a youtube video?
[06:16] <dr_willis> im not even sure how swf and flv differ.....
[06:16] <elite_> vdownloader? vixy.net!!!!
[06:16] <Arcer> it encode only soundtrack not video track
[06:16] <Arcer> arun:  no it is'nt
[06:16] <elite_> vixy.net is the best online converter
[06:16] <arun> because you can convert youtube videos directly without any software
[06:16] <arun> http://www.zamzar.com/
[06:16] <Arcer> yes i know thi service
[06:16] <elite_> u put the URL of a youtube video and then select wich on u want .mp4/.avi?
[06:16] <BluesKaj> laodie was alreadt prompted about chinese
[06:16] <elite_> www.vixy.net
[06:17] <dr_willis> hmm.. used vixy befor.. never seen zamzar befor
[06:17] <kirke> Hi, I'm on kubuntu 7.04 and I'm trying to launch Kmail, buy I don't know how, any idea?
[06:17] <arun> kirke: open kontact
[06:17] <pag> kirke, or: alt+f2  and type: kmail
[06:17] <vzduch> kirke: Menu >> Internet >> KMail
[06:17] <pag> vzduch, isn't there by default iirc.
[06:17] <vzduch> so now you got 3 different ways :)
[06:18] <vzduch> pag: don't remember.. at least I have it there
[06:18] <pag> vzduch, oh sorry, it is
[06:18] <Arcer> so
[06:18] <Arcer> hi all everybody
[06:18] <Arcer> see later :D
[06:18] <elite_> vixy.net is better i think
[06:18] <Arcer> thakns for all
[06:22] <elite_> or they where lieing
[06:23] <elite_> are these ppl acutally watching the chat or are the minimized?
[06:23] <arun> ?
[06:24] <dr_willis> o_0
[06:25] <dr_willis> Yes... :)
[06:25] <elite_> urgg my pc sucks
[06:25] <vzduch> ?
[06:25] <elite_> i burnt out my power supply
[06:25] <elite_> and its one of thoes smaller ones so now i have a normaly bigger sized one stickking out of the top of the case
[06:26] <rjb> damn just had a reading of 94C on ktemperature
[06:26] <elite_> wow
[06:26] <spawn57> [00:25]  --> You have joined the channel #ubuntu-hk (n=sunil@n219078019016.netvigator.com).
[06:26] <spawn57> [00:26]  <spawn57> HONG KONG REPRESENT
[06:26] <rjb> now down to 74
[06:26] <spawn57> =D
[06:27] <elite_> anyone here have liqiuid cooling?
[06:27] <MaTiAz> rjb: Heh, you could start cooking stuff with your machine :)
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> spawn57: that's pretty childish, don't you think?
[06:27] <elite_> where do u get Ktemputer?
[06:27] <arun> spawn57: how exactly is basket better than knotes
[06:27] <elite_> www.hackaday.com if u know that site they cooked an egg on a xbox360 in 7mins!!!
[06:28] <spawn57> Daisuke_Ido: totally =D ...i don't think I'll ever grow up
[06:28] <Daisuke_Ido> fair enough.
[06:28] <MaTiAz> elite_: You seen the video where the guy pours an egg on the GPU heatsink and then eats it?
[06:28] <elite_> where?
[06:28] <spawn57> arun: basket isn't just notes, it's graphics, drag and drop files, backgrounds etc etc, if you really make use of those things, then yeah it's better
[06:28] <elite_> on hackaday?
[06:28] <kirke> vzduch, I don't have "Menu >> Internet >> Kmail" How can add it manually?
[06:28] <mefisto__> jhutchins: thanks for the kcron hints, I think I've found an answer at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185993&highlight=kcron+howto
[06:29] <elite_> MaTiAz, where?
[06:29] <arun> but that defeats the purpose of just jotting things down on a post it
[06:29] <spawn57> as an example,I used my camera to take a pics of all the things I want to clean up in my apartment, put them in basket, added notes, added tags, and am going through'em..
[06:29] <MaTiAz> elite_: It's in youtube, don't remember any keywords though
[06:29] <rjb> !ktemperature
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktemperature - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <arun> as in, if i have to open another window and paste something
[06:29] <arun> that's like google notebook
[06:29] <spawn57> picture says a thousand words.
[06:29] <spawn57> I guess.
[06:30] <spawn57> depends on what you prefer
[06:30] <rjb> # aptitude show ktemperature --> is in universe
[06:30] <arun> spawn57: downloading it anyway, just to see :)
[06:30] <spawn57> arun, it's like voodoopad, onenote, google notebook, probably act too
[06:30] <spawn57> give it a shot, it's got a kontact plugin too =]
[06:31] <BluesKaj> kirke, are you running kubuntu or ubuntu?
[06:31] <vzduch> kirke: are you sure it's installed?  i.e. did it come up when running as a command?
[06:32] <elite_> what is better ubuntu or kubuntu? i have all 3 even edubuntu
[06:32] <vzduch> elite_: you decide
[06:33] <vzduch> under the hood it's basically the same, just different appearance/userland apps
[06:33] <kirke> i'm on kubuntu
[06:33] <kirke> with alt+F2 it runs
[06:33] <pag> elite_, this is #kubuntu cahnnel - it's pretty easy to guess what we will vote for :)
[06:33] <rjb> kubuntu of course - we're on #kubuntu for a reason, right?;)
[06:33] <elite_> okay
[06:33] <jhutchins> elite_: You tell us then.
[06:33] <kirke> but using catapult not.
[06:33] <mefisto__> elite_: which do you like?
[06:33] <BluesKaj> elite , this is a Kubuntu channel ...most ppl here use the kubuntu-desktop and /or kde
[06:33] <elite_> kubuntu but just wondering
[06:33] <elite_> lol that was real dumb of me
[06:33] <vzduch> kirke: catapult?
[06:33] <arun> spawn57: um how do i tag something using basket?
[06:34] <Daisuke_Ido> elite, you mean all four?
[06:34] <Daisuke_Ido> you forgot xubuntu
[06:34] <elite_> yeha
[06:34] <evjunior09> So whats the difference between Edgy & Feisty
[06:34] <jhutchins> elite_: You can check the stats on distrowatch.org - they're not decicive by any means, but they're something.
[06:34] <pag> vzduch, handy programm that has more funcitionality than alt+f2... it's a launcer with few added functions
[06:34] <Daisuke_Ido> evjunior09: feisty is supported
[06:34] <vzduch> Daisuke_Ido: there'll soon be another to add to.. Fluxbuntu *gg*
[06:34] <spawn57> move your mouse over the item, you'll see a small drop down arrow on the very left of it
[06:35] <elite_> i think ubuntu has a more family pc type and kubuntu more like networking and stuff thats my opion
[06:35] <spawn57> or just click it and hit tags on the menu bar
[06:35] <evjunior09> Daisuke_Ido: Supported?
[06:35] <arun> ah ok
[06:35] <elite_> can u change the click on kubuntu so its not just 1click terminate?
[06:35] <arun> got it, seems pretty nice
[06:35] <pag> Daisuke_Ido, so is edgy. Edgys EOL will be only @ 8.04
[06:35] <arun> elite_: yes
[06:36] <elite_> arun, where?
[06:36] <spawn57> you can add your own tags too ..and some of them pretty cool, like for the progress bar tag.  every time you click on it, it increases by 25%
[06:36] <elite_> arun, mouse options?
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> pag: for all intents and purposes, edgy is pretty much dead
[06:36] <arun> elite_: system settings > keyboard and mouse
[06:36] <spawn57> similar thing with the priority tag
[06:36] <arun> in the 'mouse' section
[06:36] <spawn57> and ou can drag and drop any file into the basket and make a copy of that file
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> still officially supported, but it's not in wide use
[06:36] <pag> Daisuke_Ido, that's true - but it's still officially supported
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> pag: i...  just said that :P
[06:37] <elite_> arun, thanks i got it
[06:37] <evjunior09> arun: wow thanks i was just reading what you said...i feel kinda dumb, but ive tryin to change the 1-click option
[06:38] <elite_> was that against me?
[06:38] <Daisuke_Ido> so, should the official channel for dapper support be #ubuntu-2 since gutsy is #ubuntu+1 ?
[06:38] <evjunior09> elite_: huh?
[06:38] <elite_> was that against me?
[06:38] <evjunior09> no
[06:38] <elite_> how i asked?
[06:38] <elite_> ohh
[06:38] <evjunior09> no ive been trying to change that option
[06:39] <evjunior09> i hate the 1-click
[06:39] <elite_> ohh
[06:39] <elite_> k
[06:39] <evjunior09> sorry if it sounded like i was mocking you
[06:40] <dranas> anyone know how to change the boot splash and login screens in kubunty fiesty?
[06:41] <pag> !theme
[06:41] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:41] <pag> d'oh.. remembered the factoid wrong :-(
[06:42] <dranas> i try using kdm but it never changes
[06:42] <pag> dranas, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[06:42] <dranas> i change the bg and evrything but it stays the same as the default one
[06:42] <elite_> can u overclock your prossecor in kubuntu?
[06:43] <elite_> i wanna get my 550 to a 600Mhz or something
[06:43] <BluesKaj> dranas, k-menu/ system settings/splash screen
[06:43] <pag> dranas, you'll probably need kdmtheme -package installed
[06:43] <arun> evjunior09: i didn't like the one-click either
[06:44] <dranas> let me check the kdmtheme -package thing
[06:44] <arun> i was also really happy when i figured out how to separate taskbars for different desktops
[06:44] <dranas> but i went to the k menu / system settings splash screen but it never actually changes
[06:45] <BluesKaj> don't forget to click on apply. dranas
[06:45] <evjunior09> any reason why my sound wont work on firefox?
[06:45] <evjunior09> it works for limewire
[06:45] <evjunior09> but not firefox
[06:46] <pag> evjunior09, you mean sound from flash videos in FF?
[06:46] <evjunior09> yes
[06:47] <pag> evjunior09, I can't remember the solution off-hand, just gimmie a sec please :)
[06:47] <dranas> i clicked on apply
[06:47] <evjunior09> okay thanks =D
[06:47] <dranas> im not that slow
[06:47] <elite_> what is the hotest a cpu can stand like what temp?
[06:48] <arun> anyone use kubuntu on a laptop here?
[06:48] <dranas> i installed kdmtheme thing, ill see if that solves the unchanging problem
[06:49] <evjunior09> arun: my best friend does
[06:49] <dranas> i do
[06:49] <evjunior09> i installed it for her
[06:49] <martoya> arun: here
[06:49] <pag> evjunior09, umm.. which version did you have?
[06:49] <evjunior09> Fiesty
[06:50] <arun> martoya: how easy is it to switch from "plugged-in" internet to wifi
[06:50] <evjunior09> Arun: use Wireless assistant
[06:50] <pag> evjunior09, I'm not sure at all, but found that one: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[06:50] <BluesKaj> dranas, i din't mean to be insulting ,but sometime the obvious question has to be asked :)
[06:50] <martoya> arun: knetworkmanager
[06:51] <dranas> i know
[06:51] <dranas> knetworkmanager works really well
[06:51] <arun> martoya: my ISP requires me to input a few settings in knetwork manager, like default gateway, etc
[06:51] <arun> i use ethernet at home, and mght need to use wifi in my client's office
[06:51] <arun> is it easy to switch
[06:52] <evjunior09> arun: easy to switch between Ethernet, and Wireless?
[06:53] <arun> like in windows, if it detects a wifi connection, it asks if you want to connect. is it similar in kubuntu?
[06:53] <arun> evjunior09: yes
[06:53] <stdin> arun: similar, yes
[06:53] <evjunior09> arun: yes its easy
[06:53] <justin6891> rq0
[06:53] <stdin> arun: you click on the icon in the system tray and choose the wireless net to connect to
[06:53] <evjunior09> on your computer (when plugged into ethernet) does it have a icon in the system tray like a white thing?
[06:53] <arun> what i've set specific IP address, default gateway, etc.. will i have to delete all that first before i connect to the wireless?
[06:54] <arun> evjunior09: yes, there's an icon
[06:54] <arun> it opens knetworkmanager if i right click
[06:54] <sivaji_> ksivaji  : hi
[06:54] <evjunior09> arun: okay just right click and go to options
[06:54] <evjunior09> arun: and click enable wireless
[06:55] <stdin> arun: if you have static addresses, you can just use system settings to put them in.
[06:55] <spookylukey> I'm having a bizarre problem with PATH - think I'm going mad
[06:55] <stdin> arun: just like a wired network
[06:55] <elite_> how can i change the webbrowser so it always on google. or something and not on konquer
[06:55] <arun> stdin: but if i already have static addresses that i use for my 'plugged in' internet, will i have to replace those with the wifi? or is it as easy as 'enabling wireless' in knetworkmanager
[06:56] <spookylukey> elite_: Go to 'Configure/Configure Konqueror/' and change 'Home URL'
[06:56] <elite_> okay
[06:56] <stdin> arun: well they are seen as different connection, so they won't share the settings. you'll just have to copy the settings
[06:57] <spookylukey> I have a personal 'bin' dir, which is on my PATH before the system dirs.  If I put a replacement command in the bin dir (and make it executable), it doesn't get executed instead of the normal one
[06:57] <neusonce> hey  guys im pretty new to this and i got a question to ask ?
[06:57] <martoya> arun: your plugged internet works probably in eth0 and the wifi in eth1, different interfaces, like windows
[06:57] <spookylukey> This is despite the fact that 'which' tells me it will execute my replacement!
[06:57] <pag> !ask | neusonce
[06:57] <ubotu> neusonce: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:57] <arun> ok, so if i enable wireless, and do a  click on 'show networks', it'll show me which wireless networks are available?
[06:57] <pag> allright... ubotu's slow tonight
[06:57] <stdin> spookylukey: so your path is like /home/me/bin:$PATH ?
[06:58] <spookylukey> yep
[06:58] <arun> martoya: ah alright, that's what i wanted to know
[06:58] <arun> so my eth0 settings won't affect my eth1 device right?
[06:58] <arun> am i making sense here? :)
[06:58] <martoya> arun: right
[06:58] <spookylukey> Is there a pastebin somewhere?
[06:58] <arun> martoya: thanks
[06:59] <pag> !paste | spookylukey
[06:59] <ubotu> spookylukey: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:59] <stdin> spookylukey: what shows when you do "which command" (where "command" is a command in your bin and the system bin)?
[06:59] <neusonce> mmkay, well i did a new install of of ubuntu  and   everythign was ok untill i tryed to log in  it refused access and cuase im such a noob i reinstalled ubuntu again thinkin it may hav been a software glitch   but same probelm untill i changed the session type in the options button
[06:59] <arun> thanks martoya, stdin, evjunior09
[06:59] <neusonce>  but now im left with 2 installs of ubuntu and its taking up to much space  and i cant get rid of the second copy
[06:59] <evilmm> anyone know how to do read-recipts in kmail?
[07:00] <neusonce>  i need to get rid of one
[07:00] <spookylukey> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30457/
[07:00] <arun> just to recap: i enable wireless in knetworkmanager, and then go to options > show networks, and it'll show me a list of available wifi networks, and i just pick one?
[07:01] <evjunior09> arun: no problem, but i think the other 2 were smarter when it comes to wireless =P
[07:01] <neusonce>  with out  doing a windows reinstall that will wipe both partitions
[07:01] <stdin> spookylukey: ahh, well in the case of "ls" it's not actually /bin/ls that's being executed, it's bash's builtin version
[07:02] <spookylukey> OK, but it works with other things too, which are definitely not builtins
[07:02] <arun> evjunior09: is my 'recap' correct? ^
[07:02] <spookylukey> OK, no I'm wrong
[07:03] <evjunior09> arun: yep as far as i know
[07:03] <evjunior09> Thats exactly what i would do
[07:04] <arun> thank you so much
[07:04] <spookylukey> but I'm sure it was a second ago! argh!   I'm typing the exact same commands into two windows, and one of them is calling a different executable
[07:06] <mimik> how do i change, say, a desktop icon of firefox?
[07:07] <stdin> mimik: right click it, go to properties and click the icon to change it
[07:07] <mimik> heh. that simple eh. --bangs head on wall-- thanks
[07:07] <stdin> spookylukey: 1st check the path in both, if they are the same it could be that bash has "hashed" the command (it's like it's in a cache)
[07:08] <evilmm> anyone know how to request a read receipt in kmail?
[07:09] <spookylukey> Yep, same path, it must be your explanation.  I guess that is a sensible thing for bash to do in the vast majority of cases, I just spent 15 minutes tripping up over the exception :-)
[07:10] <arun> i've heard that broadcom network cards are bad for wifi?
[07:11] <stdin> yeah, they are difficult to get working. and my not work at all sometimes
[07:13] <arun> intel wireless cards are good?
[07:13] <stdin> yep, open source driver
[07:15] <arun> great, so i'll probably get a dell latitude
[07:15] <arun> nvidia quadro cards are supported, right?
[07:16] <arun> sorry if i'm asking too many questions :)
[07:16] <evjunior09> I need help with Amarok and my iPor
[07:16] <evjunior09> *iPod
[07:16] <stdin> there is an open source driver, but to get hardware rendering (3D), you'll need to install the binary driver (from the package repositories)
[07:17] <arun> yeah, nvidia-glx?
[07:17] <arun> evjunior09: what's up
[07:17] <stdin> arun: yeah
[07:17] <buz> is there a tentative date for gutsy beta?
[07:17] <arun> stdin: thanks
[07:18] <evjunior09> arun: Amarok isnt detecting my iPod
[07:18] <stdin> buz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[07:18] <pag> !gutsy | buz
[07:18] <ubotu> buz: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[07:18] <surgy> can someone tell me the name of a good program to tell me my disk space used VS. my Free disk space on a particular hdd?
[07:18] <evjunior09> but it is connected
[07:18] <buz> thx!
[07:18] <surgy> !gutsy
[07:18] <stdin> surgy: I just use the command "df -h"
[07:19] <surgy> stdin: can you give me an example?
[07:19] <buz> mhh only more tribe releases, no more beta/rc stuff?
[07:19] <pag> surgy, df -h /dev/hda
[07:19] <stdin> surgy: that is the example
[07:19] <pag> or lets make that hda1  :)
[07:20] <stdin> surgy: the command "df -h" will show the info for all partitions. or you can add the device to the end of ot
[07:20] <pag> buz, beta is due to release 27.9
[07:20] <arun> evjunior09: go to settings > configure amarok > media devices?
[07:20] <buz> oh right there's brown on red text ;)
[07:20] <arun> not there?
[07:21] <dr_willis> df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs
[07:21] <dr_willis> is my fave df command. :)
[07:21] <dr_willis> make an alias for it.
[07:22] <pag> dr_willis, wow! thaks for that :D
[07:22] <dr_willis> It pays to read the man pages. heh heh
[07:22] <dr_willis> took me 20 min to figure out that command.
[07:23] <dr_willis> i was using grep and shell scripting.. then discovered it had the feature allready
[07:24] <vit___> hola  comunidad jeje
[07:25] <arun> evjunior09: did it work
[07:25] <vit___> alguien habla espaol
[07:26] <martoya> vit___: #kubuntu-es for spanish users
[07:26] <stdin> !es
[07:26] <arun> anyone here like russell peters?
[07:26] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:26] <vit___> thans
[07:27] <martoya> arun: the comedian?
[07:28] <arun> martoya: yes
[07:32] <arun> see you guys later
[08:01] <mefisto__> everyone has solved their problems
[08:05] <genii> mefisto__: We can only hope :)
[08:05] <mefisto__> well I solved mine
[08:08] <dopez> im trying to figure out an easy way to make sound come out of my usb speakers by default when i plug them in, i already though about hotplug but it doesnt seem to be able to 'detect' when i unplug them
[08:08] <dopez> anyone an idea ?
[08:08] <vzduch> USB speakers.. *omfg*
[08:09] <vzduch> speakers belong plugged in the respective output of the soundcard, not in USB
[08:09] <dopez> sounds better than the internal speakers
[08:09] <dopez> why not ?
[08:10] <Ace2016> HI all
[08:11] <Ace2016> anyone know if using a 64bit kernel would give better performance with a 64bit athlon x2?
[08:11] <mefisto__> dopez: is this just speakers, or do they have an audio interface (soundcard) built into them?
[08:11] <dopez> mefisto__: i guess soundcard build in, sorta, it's hooked up to the usb port
[08:12] <dopez> (logitech v20)
[08:12] <Ace2016> do 64bit kernels take full advantage of all both cores?
[08:12] <stdin> Ace2016: not much, unless you do some heavy processing (live large A/V transcoding and mathematical calculations)
[08:12] <stdin> Ace2016: and _Any_ kernel will use both cores
[08:12] <mefisto__> dopez: might be worth searching to see if it's supported by linux drivers
[08:13] <mefisto__> dopez: have you got it to work at all?
[08:14] <dopez> mefisto__: actually they work just fine, but i want them to be the default output device after i plug them in, without having to tell my apps to use the second speakers set, and of course to change back to the laptop speakers once i unplug them
[08:14] <Ace2016> stdin: but does the software need anything special to run on both cores?
[08:14] <stdin> Ace2016: no
[08:14] <Ace2016> oh cool thanks i'll stick with this then
[08:14] <Al> I have a laptop running Kubuntu. How do I stop the off button turning the laptop off? Or, even, doing anything?
[08:15] <Al> I feel small because my Windows-using friend just showed me a "When I press my off button" option
[08:15] <Al> I have to get one up
[08:15] <vzduch> wtf?
[08:15] <dopez> but seems i asked without googling enough, i now find a few threads about this
[08:16] <mefisto__> dopez: I have 2 soundcards, but gave up long ago trying to use both, so I permanently disabled one.
[08:16] <s0nix> is it possible to mount 100gb of space (on 2 differents disk) in /home ??
[08:16] <dopez> mefisto__: i've used two soundscards for quite a while, one dedicted to a headset and teamspeak and others over my 5.1 set :)
[08:17] <vzduch> mefisto__: I have 2 soundcards running, no problem :)
[08:17] <dopez> (but on my desktop)
[08:17] <vzduch> 1 has my speakers on them, the other my headphones and my headset's mic
[08:18] <ryanakca> s0nix: yes
[08:18] <mefisto__> I'm not claiming it can't be done, I just gave up
[08:18] <s0nix> ryanakca: why the installer complain to correct it ?
[08:19] <Ace2016> Anyone here using Gutsy?
[08:19] <ryanakca> s0nix: well, what do you mean, mount disk1 to /home/1 and disk2 to /home/2 ?
[08:19] <ryanakca> Ace2016: yes
[08:19] <s0nix> no , at "/home"
[08:19] <ryanakca> s0nix: or store /home on two seperate disks?
[08:19] <vzduch> !gutsy | Ace2016
[08:19] <ubotu> Ace2016: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[08:19] <ryanakca> s0nix: ah, then in that case, if you need to use two disks for your /home, use LVM
[08:20] <ryanakca> !lvm | s0nix
[08:20] <ubotu> s0nix: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:20] <Ace2016> ryanakca: how stable is it? have any problems?
[08:20] <Ace2016> released just after my birthday :D
[08:20] <s0nix> thx
[08:21] <ryanakca> Ace2016: it's stable enough for me, but don't use it if you need a production machine or you don't know your way around the command line/can't fix things yourself.
[08:21] <Ace2016> not a production, a gaming machine for ut2004, can't wait for ut2007
[08:22] <ryanakca> Ace2016: ah, well, you can chance it, I find it stable for my uses, if you want to help out, test out the Tribe 3 CD
[08:23] <Al> I have a laptop running Kubuntu. How do I stop the off button turning the laptop off? Or, even, doing anything?
[08:23] <Azzco> Hi, is it possible to have the first user name with capital letters at all in ubuntu?
[08:23] <vzduch> Azzco: ?
[08:24] <Azzco> my user name on fedora is Azzco, I'm going to move back to kubuntu but I can only have the user name azzco...
[08:27] <manu_> hi
[08:28] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> manu_: hi
[08:28] <manu_> today i got new updates for edgy eft, nvida and a new kernel, 2.6.17-12-generic, since this updates x wont start
[08:28] <manu_> someone can help?
[08:28] <manu_> never had problems with nvidia new kernels and xorg
[08:28] <manu_> :(
[08:29] <manu_> when i come to login console and i run   startx i got something with nvidia couldnt be found in kernel or so
[08:30] <Doug1> hey, I installed java manually, but now i want thunderbird to open links in firefox as default, where would i go for that in the firefox files?
[08:31] <manu_> someone can help? :/
[08:34] <mefisto__> Doug1: in thunderbird preferences, attachments, view and edit actions. Then find HTML document in the list and set it to open in firefox
[08:34] <Doug1> mefisto__: thanks
[08:35] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> manu_: Have you tried using "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to set everything up again?
[08:37] <Doug1> mefisto__: nothing is in the list
[08:37] <mefisto__> Doug1: nothing at all?
[08:37] <Doug1> nope
[08:37] <khaije1> so how do i save a kde session from command line?
[08:39] <martoya> khaije1: dcop ksmserver default saveCurrentSession
[08:40] <mefisto__> Doug1: go to preferences>advanced. Is there a "config editor" button?
[08:41] <Doug1> mefisto__: nope there's General, Offline & Disk Space, Update
[08:41] <manu_> WhtWolfTeraDyne: no, but is this the solution? someone said something because of restricted modules
[08:41] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> manu_: What kernel are you booting with?
[08:45] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> manu_: YOu can find out by using "uname -a"
[08:46] <mefisto__> Doug1: you could try installing this extension for thunderbird, which will give you access to the about:config editor
[08:46] <mefisto__> Doug1: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/423
[08:46] <Doug1> mefisto__: thank you
[08:46] <gir2222> how do I retrieve a directory with cvs?
[08:46] <mefisto__> then come back and I'll tell you what to put in there
[08:47] <Doug1> ok
[08:48] <gir2222> what is the command line for downloading cvs directories?
[08:49] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !cvs
[08:49] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[08:49] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> well, I thought there might have been something there.
[08:49] <manu_> WhtWolfTeraDyne: 2.6.17-12-generic starts no X 2.6.17-11-generic runs perfectly
[08:50] <Doug1> mefisto__: i've got the about:config window open now, what next?
[08:50] <Ace2016> HI all
[08:51] <Ace2016> I managed to get windows xp to install, the problems seems to have gone away completely, even played need for speed for a bit
[08:51] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !find linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic edgy
[08:51] <mefisto__> Doug1: right-click and create a new string
[08:51] <ubotu> Found: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic
[08:51] <Doug1> ok
[08:51] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> manu_: Try this: "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic"
[08:51] <mefisto__> Doug1: the name should be: network.protocol-handler.app.http
[08:52] <mefisto__> Doug1: and value is: firefox
[08:52] <manu_> WhtWolfTeraDyne: you mean 12 instead of eleven, 12 is the newest kernel
[08:52] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> manu_:"sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-12-generic" * yeah.
[08:52] <Doug1> mefisto__: and it should work now? thanks
[08:52] <mefisto__> Doug1: and also, you might want to do the same again, for network.protocol-handler.app.https
[08:53] <Doug1> mefisto__: will do
[08:54] <mefisto__> Doug1: if it still doesn't work, try changing firefox to full path and name (I think that should be /usr/bin/firefox)
[08:54] <blackflag> HEllo all :)
[08:55] <blackflag> I have a problem with cupsys:
[08:55] <Doug1> mefisto__: thanks it worked right off the bat. this mini-code adventure with linux is quite cool lol
[08:55] <Doug1> /leave
[08:55] <blackflag> "/usr/sbin/cupsd: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[08:56] <blackflag> I tried aptitude install -f but this is not solving
[08:56] <blackflag> can someone help?
[08:56] <blackflag> and libssl is installed
[08:57] <gir2222> ok that didnt help. I have cvs, all I want to do is download a program's cvs source code on sourceforge. I know there is a command line for doing this, anyone knows it?
[08:57] <odla> blackflag: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libssl.so.&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=feisty&arch=i386
[08:57] <manu_> WhtWolfTeraDyne: ok i'll try :)
[09:04] <devnull> How do you find out what /dev/ a device is assigned to?
[09:04] <freenet> moin
[09:04] <freenet> hi all
[09:05] <redha> hello I need help with 915resolution
[09:06] <blackflag> okay, installng this libssl again from that source above, but no change!
[09:09] <mefisto__> devnull: kinfocenter?
[09:09] <devnull> mefisto__: it doesnt show the device in a /dev/xxx fasion
[09:11] <mefisto__> devnull: it does where appropriate. look in partitions, for example
[09:13] <liquanyi> hello
[09:13] <odla> hi
[09:14] <liquanyi> my english is so poor................
[09:14] <devnull> mefisto__: not there.
[09:14] <odla> liquanyi: what your language?
[09:14] <liquanyi> chinexe..
[09:14] <odla> !chinese
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chinese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <mefisto__> devnull: what device are you looking for?
[09:14] <liquanyi> chionese
[09:14] <odla> !ch
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <liquanyi> chinese
[09:14] <odla> hrm..
[09:14] <liquanyi> ...
[09:14] <devnull> and for further reference that only lists entries in /etc/fstab
[09:14] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !hk
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <devnull> its a usb mp3 player
[09:15] <odla> !mandarian
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mandarian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <awebawefoij> Hi - Can someone please help me mounting my USB stick?
[09:15] <odla> liquanyi: do you have a question?
[09:15] <devnull> root@family-desktop:/media# lsusb
[09:15] <devnull> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0471:014d Philips
[09:15] <liquanyi> i can not input chinese
[09:16] <awebawefoij> If I fdisk it, I see it as sda1 but when I mount it I get "does not exist" and dmesg | tail gives SCSI error: return code = 0x10070000
[09:16] <liquanyi> i want to use kubuntu with chinese,but i do not know how cn i do
[09:17] <awebawefoij> I'm running Kubuntu 6.06 Kernal 2.6.15-28-386
[09:17] <liquanyi> i'mrunning 7.10
[09:18] <liquanyi> i use it in vmware
[09:18] <vzduch> liquanyi: Gutsy support in #ubuntu+1
[09:19] <rami> !java
[09:19] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[09:20] <awebawefoij> I've done quite a bit of googling, but no help - anyone here know?
[09:24] <rami> need a bit of help
[09:24] <rami> with java.
[09:24] <redha> awebawefoij: Doesn't the USB stick mount autmatically?
[09:24] <redha> Anybody could help me with 915resolution?
[09:24] <rami> i got a blue screen in the terminal with users license.
[09:24] <redha> rami: OK accept it
[09:25] <rami> how?
[09:25] <rami> i can't press it
[09:25] <redha> try pressing tab
[09:25] <devnull> !libmtp
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libmtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <devnull> !find libmtp
[09:25] <ubotu> Found: libmtp-dev, libmtp5
[09:25] <rami> ty.
[09:26] <devnull> Anyone know where a 0.1.5 libmtp package is?
[09:26] <redha> rami: anytime, we share the same name btw ;)
[09:26] <rami> :O:O
[09:27] <odla> liquanyi: http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/HOWTO:_Optimise_Ubuntu_for_Chinese_desktop
[09:27] <redha> 915resolution anybody??
[09:28] <jeff_UK_9876> Sorry - I got disconnected.  Problem with many USBsticks - can't access them. fdisk sees the FAT16 partition, but dmesg complains "Unable to read partition table" and says " SCSI error: return code = 0x10070000".  I'm running Kubuntu 6.06 with Kernal 2.6.15-28-386.  Google hasn't helped, anyone here help please?
[09:31] <redha> jeff_UK_9876: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=84947&sid=fedf3c527ed62513b2eebad94e33af33
[09:32] <redha> jeff_UK_9876: probably upgrading to fiesty would do the trick
[09:34] <benjamin_> hello there! i have in local network 2 PCs with kubuntu installed. which is the best way to remotely connect from one to the other?
[09:34] <t1n0m3n> hi, I am trying to play around with kismet, and my 3945 card keeps switching itself from monitor to managed, any idea where to look to stop this?
[09:35] <mefisto__> jeff_UK_9876: also, take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=504641
[09:35] <t1n0m3n> smb?  ftp? telnet? ssh?  depends on what you want to do
[09:36] <benjamin_> actually vnc or similar
[09:37] <benjamin_> i cannot find the way how to enable vnc server
[09:37] <t1n0m3n> cool, xdmcp?
[09:37] <t1n0m3n> err lemme check the spelling
[09:38] <t1n0m3n> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/index.html
[09:40] <jeff_UK_9876> Thanks for the tip redha, but that'll have to wait! I've read through the debian article, but doesn't say too much. pmount gives the same error message as mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 == "device sda1 does not exist".  mefisto - Thanks, I tried blkid but that's just hung up the shell & even kill -9 won't unwedge it!
[09:40] <t1n0m3n>  benjamin_: there may be a better way though, still looking
[09:40] <benjamin_> t1n0m3n: i'm new here, the last was too complex for me :-(
[09:46] <Eierkopp> moin
[09:48] <pulaski> hello
[09:51] <vzduch> impatient folks..
[09:52] <pulaski> Has anyone here who runs feisty fawn 7.04 experienced problems with sound apparently not running  upon startup.  ie no notification sounds?
[09:55] <vzduch> none here either, but it doesn't bug me :)
[09:55] <vzduch> this has nothing to do w/ sound running or not
[09:56] <vzduch> gotta be something else.. because I can fire up any player app as soon as I wish and I get sound
[09:57] <Admiral_Chicago_> hey everyone, i'm looking for a way to transfer files to a computer I'm ssh'ed into. scp comes to mind, but is there a way to do scp with an ip address instead of a hostname
[09:57] <pulaski> Thank you for responding vzduch
[09:58] <pulaski> yes my mic seems to work but inline sound ie video thru the browser and of course notifications dont work
[09:58] <vzduch> no problem w/ sound from the browser here
[09:59] <t1n0m3n> Whoever had the VNC question, I think I have your answer
[09:59] <pulaski> I can restart the sound through system settings and restart and it will occasionally boot with notification sound and browser video sound but not consistently.
[10:00] <vzduch> I turned the KDE soundsystem off
[10:00] <pulaski> I appreciate that you are responding vzduch
[10:00] <vzduch> no need for it, the apps can communicate directly w/ ALSA
[10:01] <vzduch> my opinion, of course.. you might have other priorities then low reaction times :)
[10:01] <hero> Admiral_Chicago_: uh, just replace the hostname with the ip address. if you're using windows to connect to an ssh server there is a free scp program called winscp3
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago_> hero: i figured it out. it was user@ip:/dir
[10:02] <pulaski> I see I was a little confused about the difference bet KDE soundsystem and alsa-utils in init.d
[10:02] <hero> Admiral_Chicago_: k. check out that program. i use it all the time
[10:02] <t1n0m3n> anyone know how to keep a wireless nic in monitor mode?  I switch mine to monitor and it switches back to managed after a minute
[10:02] <hero> better than cli
[10:04] <pulaski> anyway vzduch, I have to split now,  I'll come back here again sooner or later in search of solutions.  I want to reiterate my appreciation for your responses today.  Often no one here says much of anything.
[10:04] <pulaski> cya
[10:06] <t1n0m3n> anyone know how to keep a wireless nic in monitor mode?  I am using ipw3945, I set monitor mode with "iwconfig eth1 mode monitor"  it shows monitor mode with "iwconfig" I run kismet and after about a minute it stops working.  I do a "iwconfig" again and it has changed back to managed...  any ideas on what to look for?
[10:07] <t1n0m3n> I can get kismet to work constantly if I do a "iwconfig eth1 mode monitor" every 30 seconds or so
[10:17] <manu_> i have a wacom graphire tablet and plugged it in, i can use it as mouse but the config dialouges in krita/gimp/inkscpae dont show a new tablet to configure
[10:18] <pulaski> hello vzduch?
[10:18] <pulaski> thanks for the tip about kde sound sytem
[10:19] <vzduch> you're welcome :)
[10:19] <pulaski> In the System Settings screen I mistakenly had sound enabled.  I foolishly thought that unless sound was enabled I wouldn't be able to have sound.
[10:20] <pulaski> my notifications from the system settings screen work fine even though sound is not enabled.
[10:20] <pulaski> go figure?
[10:21] <pulaski> thanks again vzduch, perhaps I'll see you around
[10:23] <danya__> hello ?
[10:24] <danya__> when I get this error ( that a pckage has no installation candidate ) what should I do ??
[10:24] <cybrhuman> do someone know how I reenable the default graphics drivers in Feisty?
[10:25] <odla> sweet kickoff should be available officially for kubuntu in gutsy
[10:26] <danya__> anyone
[10:27] <odla> danya__: what are you trying to install?
[10:27] <danya__> wine
[10:27] <odla> !wine
[10:27] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:27] <danya__> I did that
[10:27] <odla> !info wine
[10:27] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB
[10:27] <danya__> the steps for a 64-bit
[10:27] <odla> danya__: oh ... i don't know about 64-bit but do you have universe enabled?
[10:28] <danya__> yes It's enabled
[10:28] <odla> danya__ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64
[10:28] <odla> ?
[10:28] <danya__> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64
[10:28] <odla> :)
[10:28] <danya__> lol
[10:28] <odla> danya__: so do you do as it says?
[10:28] <danya__> and I still get the error no installation candidate :( ..
[10:28] <danya__> I so hate 64-bit :(
[10:29] <odla> danya__: pastebin (at pastebin.ca) your sources.lst file in /etc/apt/
[10:29] <danya__> odla : I was about to check it now to make sure the repos have been addded :)
[10:29] <odla> danya__: feisty?
[10:29] <odla> danya__: also have you run sudo apt-get update?
[10:29] <danya__> odla : yes
[10:30] <danya__> odla : yes
[10:30] <odla> danya__: wget -c http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/ubuntu/feisty/wine_0.9.41~winehq0~ubuntu~7.04-1_amd64.deb
[10:30] <odla> danya__: then sudo dpkg -i wine*
[10:31] <danya__> odla : thanks :D .. I checked the source list and the repos were'nnt there :)
[10:31] <odla> danya__: there you go :)  ... also you could d/l it from the link i pasted too
[10:34] <Gumbler> :)
[10:34] <|slim|> jemand da?
[10:35] <vzduch> |slim|: ja, aber auf Englisch
[10:35] <cybrhuman> HI, I installed a new graphics driver on my feisty installation. When I rebooted the screen went blank after showing the ubuntu loading screen. I think I screwed up something when I installed the new graphics driver so I hope there was some easy way to reenable the old (default) driver
[10:40] <vzduch> cybrhuman: what driver did you install?
[10:40] <kaslepro> what do i instal to get kde on ubuntu?
[10:41] <jrc> kaslepro: I think it's sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:42] <ardchoille> How do I get apps to have their windows open in the exact same place everytime they're launche?
[10:44] <Admiral_Chicago> kaslepro: install kubuntu-desktop
[10:45] <kaslepro> Admiral_Chicago: thanks!
[10:49] <mimik> don't suppose any of you know how to associate torrent files with ktorrent?
[10:51] <jrc> mimik: does opening the "Open With" dialog box on a .torrent file and enabling "Remember application association for this type of file" work?
[10:51] <mimik> lemme check
[10:51] <ardchoille> jrc: It should, that should modify the file association
[10:52] <ardchoille> mimik: Or you could go into the file associations dialog and modify it there
[10:53] <mimik> how do you open the file associations dialog?
[10:53] <ardchoille> kcontrol KDE Components > File Associations
[10:53] <tfreire> mimik: konqueror
[10:54] <tfreire> mimik: configurations > configure konqueror
[10:54] <tfreire> mimik: both ways point to the same place
[10:54] <abhorred> Hey all, where is the option to change Screen Resolutions in KDE?
[10:54] <mimik> thanks
[10:55] <tfreire> abhorred on kubuntu: K menu > System Settings > Monitor & Video
[10:56] <tfreire> But if your video card / monitor is not properly configured you will not see all resolutions your monitor can do
[10:56] <abhorred> I got that fixed in the Xorg config, I just can't find KDE's option to change it :P
[10:56] <tfreire> In my case I had to manually configure, but I have a widescreen notebook (1680 x 1050)
[10:58] <tfreire> abhorred: I also resorted to fglrx drivers, so I had to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to rebuild my xorg.conf to make it work.
[10:58] <abhorred> I have 4 options, Settings/System/Utilities and another Settings
[10:58] <abhorred> :\
[10:58] <tfreire> abhorred: you are on ubuntu or kubuntu?
[10:58] <abhorred> Ubuntu with KDE
[10:58] <abhorred> lol, they told me to come in here
[11:00] <tfreire> you are on KDE?
[11:00] <abhorred> Yeah
[11:00] <abhorred> I installed Ubuntu, just fine, then KDE on it
[11:00] <abhorred> So I have Gnome/KDE
[11:01] <tfreire> My K > System Settings has 4 main sections with a few icons each
[11:01] <tfreire> Personal | Appearance | Computer administration | Network & Connectiviy
[11:02] <tfreire> Under Computer Admin I have an icon that says 'monitor & video'
[11:02] <tfreire> that's where you should be able to change your monitor settings
[11:05] <azzco> I've got a slight problem booting into kubuntu...
[11:06] <abhorred> Hmm
[11:06] <abhorred> I might just switch back to Gnome :(
[11:07] <abhorred> Bah, I aint doing that, time to remove 1024x768 from the xorg
[11:07] <tfreire> abhorred: my system is the other way round, I have kubuntu with ububtu-desktop also installed
[11:07] <tfreire> unfortunately i was not able to get compiz to work
[11:08] <tfreire> I got as far as running Xgl on my ATI x1600, but compiz is dying on a Glib error
[11:09] <abhorred> I like Ubuntu alot, I just wish they wouldn't make it quite so...."Easy"
[11:09] <mimik> where can i find the ktorrent executable for a default install?
[11:09] <tfreire> mimik: bash: locate ktorrent
[11:10] <tfreire> or locate ktorrent |grep bin
[11:10] <azzco> I need some help with grub. chainloader +1, does that mean that it would be like booting with only one partition?
[11:10] <mimik> yep found it thanks
[11:12] <abhorred> Thanks for your time tfreire :)
[11:12] <abhorred> I'll see what I can't figure out
[11:12] <abhorred> Now tell me, Kubuntu or Ubuntu, which do you like more?
[11:13] <azzco> I prefer KDE before gnome ;)
[11:13] <abhorred> It's got a certain amount of speed that Gnome doesn't seem to touch
[11:13] <abhorred> And it can be prettier :P
[11:14] <tfreire> Yeah, I am a KDE guy too. I just install every now and then to only go back to KDE as fast as possible
[11:14] <tfreire> (intall gnome)
[11:14] <vzduch> hehe
[11:15] <abhorred> "su gedit /ect/X11/xorg.config"
[11:15] <tfreire> So Kubuntu is my option
[11:15] <abhorred> I noticed Konsole didn't like that command
[11:15] <azzco> I've only tried gnome seriusly twice. both times it felt like someone had riped my wings
[11:15] <SlimeyPete> abhorred: sudo
[11:15] <SlimeyPete> not su
[11:15] <tfreire> gedit is gnome editor
[11:15] <tfreire> on kde you should use sudo kate /foo/bar
[11:15] <abhorred> It matters?
[11:15] <SlimeyPete> yeah, and that. you might not have gedit installed
[11:16] <SlimeyPete> yes, it matters
[11:16] <abhorred> lol, I have it running right now :P
[11:16] <tfreire> or sudo vim /foo/bar, which is my preferred option
[11:16] <vzduch> abhorred: it's xorg.conf, not xorg.config
[11:16] <pablo_> hola a todos
[11:17] <abhorred> Woah, what is "kate"
[11:17] <SlimeyPete> it's an editor.
[11:17] <tfreire> abhorred: did your 'sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop' finish without problems?
[11:17] <vzduch> the (K)DE (A)dvanced (T)ext (E)ditor
[11:17] <abhorred> It just spit about 3,000 lines in the console
[11:17] <abhorred> Yes
[11:17] <tfreire> you can issue 'sudo apt-get -f install' just to be sure
[11:18] <abhorred> I know it installed clean man
[11:20] <abhorred> What is wrong with running gedit in KDE?
[11:20] <vzduch> tfreire: and no, you should _not_ use 'sudo kate', but 'kdesu kate'
[11:20] <abhorred> Or Gnome apps in general?
[11:21] <tfreire> isn't kdesu just a frontend to sudo?
[11:22] <tfreire> kde-gui firndly frontend
[11:22] <SlimeyPete> abhorred: nothing wrong with it but unless you migrated from Ubuntu they won't be installed yet
[11:22] <vzduch> kdesu gives you permissions in X while sudo does not
[11:22] <tfreire> cause sudo works for me. the difference is that I get to type on konsole instead of a window
[11:23] <tfreire> oh, I see
[11:23] <vzduch> I've been told that using sudo for X applications can break permission settings
 I installed Ubuntu, just fine, then KDE on it
 So I have Gnome/KDE
[11:24] <K-Ryan> vzduch: It can
[11:24] <SlimeyPete> abhorred: ah, right
[11:24] <danya__> how can I add wine to the source list if It's not a deb ?? ..
[11:24] <abhorred> brb if I am still invited guys
[11:24] <vzduch> danya__: you can only install .debs w/ dpkg/apt
[11:25] <vzduch> danya__: and there's a separate Wine source for current versions
[11:25] <danya__> vzduch : so I'll find the wine packages in there ?
[11:26] <ADiCT3D> Has anyone sucessfully compiled cedega?
[11:26] <K-Ryan> Probably
[11:27] <vzduch> omg, this nick.. *eyeCancer*
[11:27] <abhorred> Omg, I can read stuff again
[11:27] <abhorred> :)
[11:28] <animimotus> hi
[11:29] <animimotus> someone use Kbabel ?
[11:30] <tfreire> My only problem is not being able to run compiz-fusion. Tha is a great letdown...
[11:30] <glauco1> hi
[11:30] <glauco1> how i can delete a programm?
[11:31] <glauco1> i want uninstall java5
[11:31] <glauco1> but if i make apt.get remove java5
[11:31] <glauco1> tell me that java5 doesnt exist
[11:31] <vzduch> sudo aptitude remove <package name> (w/o the <> of course; if you want to remove configuration files as well, replace 'remove' with 'purge')
[11:31] <vzduch> glauco1: of course not
[11:32] <tfreire> glauco: be sure of the package name you want to uninstall
[11:32] <glauco1> mmm
[11:32] <glauco1> ok
[11:32] <vzduch> if you don't know the exact name, try an 'apt-cache search java5' beforehand
[11:32] <tfreire> you might mean java-sun-jdk or something like that
[11:32] <glauco1> ok
[11:32] <vzduch> tfreire: probably 'sun-java5-jre'
[11:32] <glauco1> ok i try it now
[11:33] <tfreire> vzduch: yeah
[11:34] <glauco1> ok i've found it
[11:34] <glauco1> tank you!!!!
[11:34] <tfreire> Well, Ubuntu is teh distro which took me less time from installation to making it useable. It almost worked 100% out of the box
[11:34] <vzduch> tfreire: less time compared w/ what?
[11:34] <tfreire> with everything I ever tried
[11:35] <abhorred> Not just less time, alot less headaches
[11:35] <tfreire> red hat, suse, mandriva, and... gentoo :)
[11:35] <tfreire> I still use Gentoo
[11:35] <tfreire> on our company server
[11:35] <abhorred> I was gonna try a diffrent one, Knoppix I think it was
[11:35] <tfreire> but I installed Ubuntu on my notebook to give it a go , more in-depth
[11:36] <abhorred> I think I am falling love with Debian based distro's
[11:36] <vzduch> for Mandriva I can't tell.. last time I wanted to install it (2007.1), the media wouldn't boot; looked like there was no bootsector on the DVD
[11:36] <vzduch> before that I have previously used Mandrake 9.1, 10.0 and 10.1
[11:36] <tfreire> I have been o Gentoo for a loong time though, the other distros might have improved
[11:37] <vzduch> I was a die-hard SUSE user for 1.5 years.. until a hdd failure forced me to reinstall, then I tried other things.. and, running out of options I came across Kubuntu & I love it now :)
[11:38] <tfreire> one thing that finally prompted me to try ubuntu was all the eye-candy compiz provides. unfortunately, it's the only thing I didn't manage to make work
[11:38] <vzduch> probably never would've tried it if Fedora 7 had worked to my liking
[11:39] <vzduch> or if PCLinuxOS had a bigger choice of pkgs
[11:39] <tfreire> but the experience is being smooth
[11:39] <tfreire> AND... I am on gutsy
[11:39] <K-Ryan> Why so early?
[11:39] <tfreire> things are not exploding in my face... it's pretty stable
[11:40] <tfreire> Just because I was trying to get all the eye-candy of the world, I was testing after all.
[11:40] <tfreire> Since I had trouble with feisty, I said 'what the hell, I have no meaningful data here anywawy'
[11:41] <tfreire> gutsy is supposed to use compiz-fusion right off the bat, whereas feisty has both compiz and beryl
[11:41] <tfreire> so I decidedto give fusion a go
[11:42] <tfreire> The only crashes I have had are comppiz-related, which is admittedly beta software
[11:43] <tfreire> otherwise it gave me no problems at all
[11:45] <underdog5004> how can I make dolphin my default file-browser?
[11:46] <stoned> hi guys
[11:46] <underdog5004> hey
[11:46] <stoned> I just downloaded the kubuntu 7.04 amd64 ISO