[01:10] <asimon> ulass: Yes, during boot via some kernel parameter, but I don't know how exactly.
[01:10] <topyli> thoreauputic: they don't mention the time, but after they took jurix as the base instead of slack. suse the company was founded in 1997
[01:10] <hondje> oh
[01:11] <thoreauputic> topyli: ah OK - thanks
[01:11] <Rocha> hondje: Is there any dpkg command to configure X ?
[01:11] <hondje> Rocha: yessir
[01:11] <Rocha> hondje: what is it then?
[01:11] <hondje> Rocha: I'm trying to remember
[01:11] <topyli> Rocha: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:11] <thoreauputic> Rocha: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:11] <hondje> I think it's dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:12] <Rocha> thanks
[01:12] <topyli> heh
[01:12] <theD3viL> SteveGrif, i dunno then
[01:12] <hondje> hey, I thought right
[01:12] <Rocha> i'll try that
[01:12] <thoreauputic> *smirk*
[01:12] <topyli> whee!
[01:12] <hondje> ^5
[01:12] <thoreauputic> hehe
[01:13] <yahalom> can someone tell me how i can change beep-media-player's skins?
[01:13] <asimon> ulass: You need to add "inotify" to your kernel line in /boot/grub/grub.conf (or add it with grub via it's editor function before booting). But anyway, it won't work, inotify is disabled by default bacause it doesn't work.
[01:13] <karim> is it a problem to put a hard drive upside down ?
[01:15] <hondje> karim: not generally
[01:15] <yahalom> karim, no. problem to handle it too much.
[01:15] <ompaul> topyli, well I started using open source software in 94 but I can only remember turbo linux, redhat FreeBSD and something called debian I remember a big box of linux stuff from walnut creek cost about 140 dollars
[01:15] <karim> hondje, hum, generally ?
[01:15] <Heimdall> re
[01:15] <karim> yahalom, what ?
[01:15] <scott_> Can someone help me to get my multihead working please?
[01:15] <hondje> karim: well, I'd hate to guarantee something is never bad
[01:16] <topyli> ompaul: i started with redhat 5.0, which was pretty painful. then mandrake saved me :)
[01:16] <yahalom> karim, if u handle it too much. play around with it too much. move it from place to place. throw it across the room, etc. basicaly being and idiot with it.
[01:16] <hondje> ompaul: you can't stay sir, ubuntu is for newbies, not 'since yggradisl was still around'ies
[01:16] <yahalom> karim, and also dont touch the exposed parts. some hard disks are most exposed than others.
[01:17] <topyli> hondje: lazy gurus may use ubuntu too =)
[01:17] <hondje> oh, lazy is good
[01:17] <hondje> that's what I like about ubuntu, except for firefox and evolution it's work-free
[01:17] <scott_> Can someone help me to get my multihead working please?
[01:17] <thor|caffeine> topyli: my first Redhat refused to startx: i rang the shop I bought the disc from and the guy asked me to run some commands then told me it was working perfectly and to get used to the CLI ;)
[01:18] <topyli> hondje: laziness is the mother of innovation
[01:18] <hondje> topyli: and boredom
[01:18] <yahalom> karim, y ur hard disk not working?
[01:18] <karim> yahalom, the exposed parts ? You mean, like bollocks ?
[01:18] <topyli> thor|caffeine: my box at the time had a nasty sis graphics card, so the first thing i had to do was setting up framebuffer for X. oh joy
[01:19] <karim> yahalom, no it's working, but on my case the ide cable are too short, and I must turn the disk
[01:19] <karim> I will bought longer cable though
[01:20] <GNULinuxer> bob2, hey, what is the way to change the Xcursor theme?
[01:20] <GNULinuxer> bob2, i mean the mouse theme
[01:20] <HWolf> How do I set a shortcut key to launch a random app?
[01:21] <kcburyshaker> i just looked at the page hit ranking on the right side of this page   http://distrowatch.com/        glad im on the right team  :)
[01:21] <yahalom> karim, lol
[01:21] <hondje> trusting that is like trusting a used car dealer :)
[01:21] <yahalom> karim, lol not like bollocks.
[01:22] <kcburyshaker> HWolf  system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[01:22] <thoreauputic> kcburyshaker: yeah we are flavour of the month: don't know how long that will last though
[01:22] <yahalom> karim, for ex. western digital hd have one side exposed. there are other hard drives that are totally sealed. the ones that have ne side exposed, touching it could cause data loss. even thought i haven't seen that happen.
[01:22] <scott_> Can someone help me configure my computer so that more than one monitor will work on it please?
[01:23] <yahalom> karim, when i repair pcs i often have the hard disk in some weird position and its fine. just in long term its better u keep it in the designated area.
[01:23] <HappyFool> kcburyshaker (and HWolf): i don't see a way to make arbitrary shortcuts there, fwiw
[01:23] <HWolf> HappyFool, right on
[01:23] <kcburyshaker> ohhhhh
[01:24] <HWolf> Any other way?
[01:24] <hondje> HWolf: the gconf editor
[01:24] <kcburyshaker> well im new
[01:24] <hondje> you can set shortcuts, they're all in the metacity sections
[01:24] <HWolf> hondje, thanks, filing a bug now. :)
[01:25] <topyli> kcburyshaker: distrowatch counts page hits, how many people look at the distro pages. no-one knows usage statistics :)
[01:25] <HappyFool> scott: this *might* help, but it looks out of date:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors
[01:25] <scott_> Thanks, I'll check it out HappyFool
[01:25] <hondje> topyli: I have usage stats!
[01:25] <thoreauputic> topyli: the gratis CDs aren't hurting though :)
[01:25] <hondje> They're fake though
[01:26] <yahalom> nobody here uses beep-media-player?
[01:26] <hondje> analysis of traffic to some website and a user poll
[01:26] <hondje> yahalom: I do
[01:26] <topyli> hondje: i can give exact usage stats of this house: 50% ubuntu, 50% windows :)
[01:26] <thoreauputic> hondje: 95.34% of statistics are fake!
[01:26] <thoreauputic> yahalom: I use beep a lot
[01:26] <kcburyshaker> topyli   true   but even if half of the hits are actual downloaders   then it still works out we are on top
[01:27] <hondje> hehe, I like people who cite netcraft stats :)
[01:27] <hondje> ubuntu isn't the most popular distro at all
[01:27] <theD3viL> www.distrowatch.com ;)
[01:27] <topyli> thoreauputic: i'm sure ubuntu is growing!
[01:27] <karim> yahalom, ok
[01:27] <kcburyshaker> no   but it is doing good for how long it has been out
[01:28] <theD3viL> But (k)ubuntu have too many bugs !
[01:28] <hondje> yeah, growing like gentoo did
[01:28] <thoreauputic> actually the rise of Ubuntu has been amazing
[01:28] <topyli> i wonder how many ubuntu users are newbies and how many are old debianites
[01:28] <kong0> lmnar
[01:28] <hondje> 5 years windows free
[01:29] <hondje> still have debian, just not on my desktop
[01:29] <nama_ku_itaa> hay
[01:29] <thoreauputic> topyli: my last Debian install went Ubuntu a few days ago
[01:29] <hondje> thoreauputic: oh, so you drank all the kool-aid?
[01:29] <BoD_SWAT> I did a e2fsck on my sys and I get a "data: 231284/36634624 files (4.6% non-contiguous), 52652647/73262416 blocks" Is that OK?
[01:29] <topyli> thoreauputic: i just got tired of maintaining my unstable installations
[01:29] <hondje> I'm way to afraid to put important stuff on ubuntu
[01:29] <GNULinuxer> topyli, there are guys who are neither newbies not debianites
[01:30] <topyli> GNULinuxer: fedora refugees :)
[01:30] <thoreauputic> hondje: yep -I'm an unthinking acolyte of the Church Of Ubuntu *grin*
[01:30] <HappyFool> hondje: really? why not?
[01:30] <hondje> HappyFool: not stable enough
[01:30] <GNULinuxer> topyli, yes, and guys from other distros too ... like SuSE [me]
[01:30] <hondje> I really value my data, a whole lot
[01:30] <daniel^> topyli: or gentoo, slackware, etc.
[01:31] <topyli> hondje: have you already dared to upgrade to sarge?
[01:31] <thoreauputic> topyli: gentoo refugees as well !
[01:31] <daniel^> refugees... hmmm, i still run gentoo and debian... and now ubuntu too :p
[01:32] <hondje> topyli: I'm on sarge :)
[01:32] <hondje> upgrade wasn't too bad
[01:32] <topyli> hondje: well, when they say it's stable, you better believe it :)
[01:32] <hondje> damn right
[01:32] <hondje> only thing to worry about is hardware death
[01:32] <dantheman64> I'm stuck in a 640 x 480 resolution; can someone tell me how to switch to a higher one? I've tried the Screen Resolution applet to no avail: only that res is available.,
[01:33] <hondje> Ubuntu is nice, but I get regular crashes, and that doesn't make me feel comfortable
[01:33] <dantheman64> hondje, why do you get crashes?
[01:33] <topyli> hondje: ubuntu doesn't crash. there's another problem
[01:34] <hondje> topyli: not the OS, but applications regularly segfault
[01:34] <hondje> Lately it's evolution, it dies ~4x a day
[01:34] <daniel^> >_<
[01:34] <bob2> hondje: please do file bugs
[01:34] <hondje> I think it's not liking getting cals from hula
[01:34] <hondje> bob2: I do, even drop in some core files
[01:34] <karim> is hoary live/install  cd bootable on the oldworlds macs ?
[01:34] <bob2> eeeexcellent.
[01:34] <flankk> i have the php4 package and array_ functions don't work.. is there a seperate package i need?
[01:35] <masahiro> anybody got remote assistance to see if i can get my sound working?
[01:35] <bob2> karim: you have an old word mac with enough ram to run the live cd?
[01:35] <flankk> karim, ubuntu is not designed for oldworld macs, use a distro that is.
[01:35] <karim> bob2, I just want to know if I can boot the install CD
[01:35] <carlo> hello i have a big problem with ubuntu, is this the place to ask for help?
[01:36] <thoreauputic> carlo: fire away
[01:36] <cjnodell> Hello
[01:36] <cjnodell> I have aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa question
[01:36] <topyli> heh
[01:36] <karim> flankk, I already run a debian on it
[01:36] <arkainium> Is there an easy way to copy an image from one hard disk to another?  I want to upgrade my system to use SATA but I *really* don't want to go through the whole install/configuration process.
[01:36] <cjnodell> I am using ubuntu 5.04, and a D-link DWL-122 wireless network card (USB) with ndiswrapper, and it works, but VERRY slowly
[01:37] <flankk> karim, so you have gotten around the PROM settings getting it to boot?
[01:37] <cjnodell> how can i fix it?
[01:37] <cran> hi
[01:37] <carlo> when I installed ubuntu I made a FAT32 partition and it was mounted to /home (i didnt notice that), and therefore I couldnt create a user during installation
[01:37] <flankk> karim, anyways, if you have debian on it, then you would be quite aware on how to boot the cd.
[01:37] <karim> flankk, I installed from a floppy drive. I know that the debian install cd for ppc aren't bootable on oldworld. I don't know for ubuntu
[01:38] <carlo> i ended up with a root account only
[01:38] <karim> flankk, no, it could only be done from floppy
[01:38] <flankk> karim, no install cds are bootable on oldworld, try yellowdog linux or something designed for the job..
[01:38] <topyli> arkainium: do dpkg --get-selections and backup /etc. then on the new system, do dpkg --set-selections and put the old /etc there :)
[01:38] <carlo> i changed the /home directory to a ext3 partition and created a default user
[01:39] <carlo> then add it to the sudoers list
[01:39] <karim> flankk, I ask if ubuntu install cd is bootable on oldworld, I don't ask advices on which distro to use. thanks
[01:39] <arkainium> topyli, exactly the answer I was looking for.  Thanks!
[01:39] <flankk> karim, the answer is no, i was simply giving you a suggestion to avoid repeating myself.
[01:40] <ska-fan> How would I go about installing some debian unstable packages on hoary? Download the .debs and dpkg -i?
[01:40] <thoreauputic> ska-fan: not sadvisable
[01:40] <hondje> ska-fan: ubuntu doesn't have them?
[01:40] <thoreauputic> *advisable
[01:40] <carlo> here comes the problem: i deleted the root account thinking i wont need it with a user that is on the sudoers lists (with userdel) and now i cant sudo(sudo: no passwd entry for root!)
[01:40] <cran> I have two independent X servers (two KDE sessions, two users) running on the same computer. Everything works find except a problem I have with hal/dbus-1. How would I prevent certain devices to show up in a specific users KDE session? I think it could be done somehow by tweaking udev and/or hald but I'm not really sure where I should look. Does someone have an idea? Good docs?
[01:40] <carlo> i have to reinstall everything? :(
[01:41] <cran> ah well, I'm running kubuntu hoary
[01:41] <flankk> karim, besides, if you currently have debian on it, you can switch your sources to ubuntu repositories and you will have a ubuntu system that way.. i believe there is a post in the forum discussing how to do this effectively.
[01:41] <ska-fan> hondje: postgresql-8
[01:41] <ska-fan> hondje: so no
[01:41] <thoreauputic> carlo: I think you shot yourself in the foot...
[01:41] <carlo> ouch
[01:41] <zyth> carlo: you might be able to boot in Linux single and edit the file
[01:41] <hondje> ska-fan: best way is to download them using apt-get source <package>, then build debs from that
[01:41] <zyth> if ubuntu supports it
[01:41] <carlo> zyth how can i do that?
[01:41] <cjnodell> Hi... Can somebody help me?
[01:42] <karim> flankk, yes, I did that switch on a G3 400mhz, from debian to ubuntu, but I did a clean install . I just want to do a clean install
[01:42] <karim> flankk, I mean I did a clean install recently, so save hard drive space
[01:42] <ska-fan> hondje: I have to put debian unstable in sources.list first?
[01:42] <zyth> at the boot: prompt select 'linux single root=/dev/hdx (where x is your root partition) and see if it starts singleuser
[01:42] <hondje> ska-fan: yeah, but JUSt get those pkgs
[01:42] <flankk> karim, use the debian floppy to boot the kernel off the ubuntu cd then..
[01:42] <hondje> or use pinning
[01:43] <karim> flankk, the reason is I discovered that aptitude can remove uneeded dependencies, unlike apt
[01:43] <carlo> zyth thank you I will try
[01:43] <karim> flankk, ok, thanks
[01:43] <flankk> karim, you can have aptitude on debian or ubuntu..
[01:43] <ska-fan> hondje: will apt-get install postgresql-8 only install the pg packages from deb unst?
[01:43] <arsch> how can i make aptitude remove unneeded dependecies?
[01:43] <zyth> carlo, np, I hope it works.
[01:44] <karim> flankk, I didn't said the contrary. I said I want to a clean install to get space back
[01:44] <Blaamann> Can anybody answer me if any mp3 supported player or the codec comes with the downloaded cd ?
[01:44] <carlo> thank you too thoreauputic for listening
[01:44] <thoreauputic> arsch: only if installed with aptitude
[01:44] <karim> flankk, and that I prefer ubuntu
[01:44] <flankk> karim, ok, just making sure it's clear :)
[01:44] <karim> flankk, no prob :)
[01:44] <arsch> oh, ok
[01:44] <arsch> thx thoreauptic
[01:44] <arsch> and, is anybody here, who got portage to work in ubuntu?
[01:44] <zyth> karim, No, mp3 support does not come with the downloaded CD, you have to install extra software
[01:45] <thoreauputic> Blaamann: there are a couple of ways to install mp3 support
[01:45] <thoreauputic> !restricted
[01:45] <ubotu> [restricted]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:45] <thoreauputic> Blaamann: see ubotu above
[01:45] <arsch> or blaamann, you could just look at the ubuntu guide, evrythin is explaind there, just google for "ubuntu guide"
[01:46] <thoreauputic> arsch: unfortunately not all the advice on ubuntuguide is accurate
[01:46] <Blaamann> I heard someone say that I should not use the ubuntuguide. org
[01:46] <arsch> why? its good, you dont need evrythin, but the most part is really good for starters
[01:47] <Hajuu_> Hey
[01:47] <cran> can anybody tell me if theres an ubuntu channel that's a bit more technical than this?
[01:47] <kcburyshaker> i used it   and have no probs
[01:47] <thoreauputic> Blaamann: on the whole, correct, unless you know what you are doing
[01:47] <ompaul> cran, ask and we can get real technical on you if you want :-)
[01:47] <kcburyshaker> and im a newb
[01:47] <cran> ompaul: I already asked :=)
[01:47] <thoreauputic> kcburyshaker: it rather depends on which bits you use
[01:47] <ompaul> cran, I did not see I will sroll back :-)
[01:47] <Blaamann> thoreauputic: Thanks, I heard there was a lot of wrong things in there.
[01:47] <kcburyshaker> i used the top part on how to get all the needed stuff installed
[01:47] <Hajuu_> Uhm... Having some mysql errors.. I just installed it through apt-get and the daemon is running... but when I try to connect to it through php, it says it cannot connect, but doesnt give me any specific information about why...
[01:47] <Hajuu_> any ideas?
[01:48] <kcburyshaker> like java, the media players
[01:48] <kcburyshaker> things like that
[01:48] <Blaamann> thoreauputic: Are there a list somewhere of the packages included in the downloaded cd ?
[01:48] <ompaul> cran, what devices specifically?
[01:48] <lsuactiafner> heh connection limiting works, using p2p and irc still works
[01:48] <cran> ompaul: removable devices like usb stick, camera etc
[01:48] <thoreauputic> kcburyshaker: the problems are things like the recomended apt lists
[01:48] <cran> ompaul: I want specific devices or specific usb ports to only show up on a specific kde session
[01:48] <thoreauputic> backports, marillat etc
[01:49] <ompaul> cran, well one way to do it is to make those devices only belong to the owner of that session
[01:49] <cran> ompaul: so only one user is able to pmount it
[01:49] <kcburyshaker> thor   you have a better place to get a list at?
[01:49] <eskaypey> lo
[01:49] <ompaul> cran, consider the mount points to belong to the user
[01:49] <cran> ompaul: that would mean editing udev.permissions, right?
[01:49] <thoreauputic> kcburyshaker: yes, apt-setup then add multiverse and uncomment universe
[01:50] <kcburyshaker> ok
[01:50] <cran> ompaul: hm
[01:50] <ompaul> cran, I would treat it at file system level
[01:50] <thoreauputic> kcburyshaker: and use other repos only temporarily for eg codecs
[01:50] <ompaul> cran, but that is me
[01:50] <cran> ompaul: isnt the mountpoint chowned to the user by pmount?
[01:50] <ompaul> cran, let me use it for a second :-)
[01:50] <kcburyshaker> ok
[01:50] <thoreauputic> kcburyshaker: comment out 3rd party repos after getting codecs/libdvdcss
[01:50] <cran> ompaul: so the first who clicks on it gets the device
[01:51] <kcburyshaker> thor   is there any way you could pvt me the contents of that file
[01:51] <cran> ompaul: use it?
[01:51] <cran> #
[01:51] <kcburyshaker> so i could copy and paste
[01:52] <cran> ompaul: maybe I don't understand you right
[01:52] <thoreauputic> kcburyshaker: it's just the default file with multiverse added on the universe lines, and the recommended uncommenting to get universe
[01:52] <kcburyshaker> ok
[01:52] <kcburyshaker> gotcha
[01:52] <thoreauputic> kcburyshaker: it's documented in the file
[01:52] <kcburyshaker> i just dont wanna mess something like that up
[01:53] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:53] <ompaul> cran well if you auto mount it you are correct, I was thinking more in terms of a manual mounting it as /mnt/mounted_device_one
[01:53] <ompaul> cran, and turning off automounting
[01:53] <cran> ompaul: i understand
[01:53] <ompaul> cran, ugly but it is effective
[01:53] <cran> ompaul: But I would really like it to automount
[01:54] <ompaul>  /etc/group is your friend in my solution
[01:54] <cran> ompaul: without automounting it would be easy to do in the filesystem, yes
[01:54] <cran> ompaul: hm
[01:54] <ompaul> cran, I do not have an answer foryou there
[01:54] <cran> ompaul: okay, but thanks anyway
[01:54] <ompaul> cran, there is ubuntu-devel but would they consider it correct for them to answer?
[01:55] <marc> mhh dows someone know how i can get the broadcom wireless adapter 802.11b/g working ?
[01:55] <ompaul> cran, when you get it sorted Document it for us all that would be useful :)
[01:55] <cran> ompaul: of course I'll do
[01:55] <AnHu> marc: you must use ndiswrapper
[01:55] <ompaul> cran, :)
[01:55] <cran> ompaul: I'm writing it up currently
[01:55] <cran> ompaul: howto make a local multiuser ubuntu system
[01:55] <marc> iam searching for a german ubuntu channel
[01:56] <AnHu> marc: hallo kollege;-)
[01:56] <topyli> marc: #ubuntu-de?
[01:56] <NicP> guys out of interest how do i check my uptime?
[01:56] <cran> ompaul: perfectly suited for schools and so on
[01:56] <AnHu> geh einfach auf #ubuntu-de
[01:56] <ompaul> marc that might be #ubuntu-de
[01:56] <cran> ompaul: one computer, one installation, up to 4 or mre users :)
[01:56] <cran> ompaul: the only problem thats left is with security of removable devices :)
[01:57] <thoreauputic> NicP: type uptime in a terminal :)
[01:57] <ompaul> cran, ohh no it must be higher - after all there is some company who think that 5 users is the most that should connect to one PC
[01:57] <topyli> cran: have you looked at skolelinux?
[01:57] <marc> ah danke
[01:57] <scaroo> hi ppl ! i cannot make my mind between netapplet and networkmanager; what would you guys advice ? wich one fits better the debian:ubuntu way ?
[01:57] <NicP> lol thanks thoreauputic
[01:57] <marc> hatte gerade problememit meiner verbndung
[01:57] <ompaul> cran, debian edu - and for some random ideas there is a wiki at scoil.linux.ie
[01:57] <marc> ich hatte driverloader probiert
[01:57] <cran> topyli: nope, do they have the local multiuser X stuff integrated? Especially thhe ruby kernel patch?
[01:57] <AnHu> marc: dann komm in den deutschen Channel
[01:57] <thoreauputic> NicP: funny - a *nix command that makes sense ;)
[01:57] <AnHu> da bin ich auch
[01:58] <AnHu> hier soll ma ja Englisch schreiben
[01:58] <Blaamann> Can anybody tell me what the manifest files are from the Ubuntu download page (see http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/ at bottom) ?
[01:58] <zdra> hi ! i installed ubuntu breeze-20050618. Just to report here 2 "problems". first after the basic installation, reboot, and then apt-get ask me for the install CDrom... it's a bug ? i give him the cd and then the installation continue without reading the cd. Second little problem: when for the first time I log in with gdm, it's by default the user-defined session (so nothing, gnome doesn't start) I have thus to select in gdm the gnome session and
[01:58] <zdra> make it the default for the user...
[01:58] <topyli> cran: i don't really know where they're at right now. http://www.skolelinux.org/portal/
[01:58] <cran> topyli: thx
[01:58] <thoreauputic> AnHu: /j #ubuntu-de
[01:58] <zdra> question: is here the right place to report that ? or any mailing list ?
[01:58] <AnHu> yes
[01:59] <ompaul> zdra, yes, you can register at launchpad.ubuntu.com and log it there
[01:59] <finn> hey, anyone know how to get good tv output on an nvidia fx 5200?  my problem is i can't seem to pass 720x568 resolution mpeg2 captured from a dvb-t card to the tele with the interlacing intact
[01:59] <cran> topyli: okay, just read they page. They're not doing the same thing. They go the thin client way, that'sw something different
[01:59] <topyli> ah
[01:59] <cran> topyli: I have _NO_ client
[01:59] <lsuactiafner> zdra : not a bug as far as i know.
[02:00] <cran> just four mice, four keyboards, four screens :) all in one pc
[02:00] <znh> hmz.. what's the default root password - ?.
[02:00] <xalphas> I have a problem with evolution. After a fresh install it doesn't start in hoary. I googled and search the forums. Nothing. I find that it conflicts with evolution-echange i removed it and then evolution started but it hangs like that. What you guys recommend about this situation? thx
[02:00] <topyli> cran: oh, ok, i thought you were after thin clients :)
[02:00] <thoreauputic> !rootsudo
[02:00] <ubotu> it has been said that rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:00] <thoreauputic> znh: read the bot's URL
[02:00] <tylerdd> what is the directory of plugin of mozilla
[02:00] <tylerdd> please
[02:01] <tylerdd> ?
[02:01] <znh> thoreauputic: yes, but when doing sudo, it asks me for a password
[02:01] <cran> tylerdd: have you tried "dpkg -L mozille | grep plug" ?
[02:01] <thoreauputic> tylerdd: ~/.mozilla/plugins I think
[02:01] <topyli> tylerdd: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[02:01] <lsuactiafner> znh : press enter
[02:01] <znh> thoreauputic: oh I see..  D'oh!
[02:01] <thoreauputic> znh: your user password
[02:01] <znh> thanks :)
[02:01] <kcburyshaker> lol    i got thrown for a loop first time i saw that too
[02:01] <lsuactiafner> oh
[02:01] <lsuactiafner> heh
[02:01] <ompaul> cran, 24/5 years ago I used a cremencio 4 workstation computer that was four screens four keyboards (no mouse) and two huge 360k drives it had a whole 128k of ram and it was fast
[02:01] <ska-fan> deb unstable is at python 2.3 still?
[02:02] <lsuactiafner> ive never used sudo on ubuntu
[02:02] <cran> znh: everyone is confused by that the first time :)
[02:02] <znh> anyways how's the support for ndiswrapper in ubuntu?
[02:02] <kcburyshaker> the whole terminal thing is a bit new to me
[02:02] <cran> ompaul: wow
[02:02] <tylerdd> thnaks
[02:02] <znh> kcburyshaker: terminal thingy is lovely
[02:02] <kcburyshaker> lol
[02:02] <cran> ompaul: do you have a link to this somehow?!
[02:02] <topyli> ompaul: i used to run a machine with 512k ram and it was very fast. what has happened to software?
[02:02] <ompaul> no photos of then
[02:02] <kcburyshaker> i think so too   you can do a lot on it
[02:02] <cran> ompaul: btw. HP is selling machines like this again
[02:03] <ompaul> topyli, udev and nat the mother and father of all evil
[02:03] <topyli> heh
[02:03] <cran> ompaul: http://www.hp441.com
[02:03] <ompaul> cran, no I don't maybe I should write it up some time
[02:04] <lsuactiafner> topyli : the software started to actually do things..
[02:04] <cran> ompaul: google does not know anything about "cremencio" :)
[02:04] <znh> okay another question, how to configure a static ip?
[02:04] <znh> everything that the system boots
[02:04] <topyli> lsuactiafner: yeah well, at the time i used to run ms-dos 3.3 and works 1.0 :)
[02:04] <znh> not manualy with ifconfig each time -_-'
[02:04] <ompaul> cran, long before its time
[02:05] <cran> znh: /etc/network/interfaces
[02:05] <znh> aight!
[02:05] <thoreauputic> znh: man interfaces ;) /etc/network/interfaces
[02:05] <ompaul> cran that is how computing should be done that hp link I want one now
[02:05] <ompaul> !!!
[02:05] <ubotu> ompaul: I give up, what is it?
[02:05] <znh> hmm.. that is equal like i would do it in debian :P
[02:05] <ompaul> ubotu, botsnack
[02:05] <ubotu> thanks ompaul :)
[02:05] <thoreauputic> znh: exactly
[02:06] <topyli> cran: smaller firms do that too: http://opensensesolutions.com/faq.html
[02:06] <znh> thoreauputic: are you a bit known with ndiswrapper?
[02:06] <cran> topyli: thx
[02:06] <topyli> cran: i believe it's debian :)
[02:06] <thoreauputic> zdra: no, i'm totally unknown on the subject :)
[02:06] <znh> oh okay :->
[02:07] <tylerdd> the directory of path mozilla?
[02:07] <znh> hope my nickname isn't anonying :/
[02:07] <thoreauputic> znh: I still use old fashioned wires ;)
[02:07] <cran> topyli: very nice!
[02:07] <eskaypey> thoreauputic: more secure way that is
[02:07] <thoreauputic> znh: lazy tab completion, sorry
[02:08] <cran> topyli: they must be using the ruby kernel :)
[02:08] <topyli> :)
[02:08] <zdra> thoreauputic, oki i'll maybe post that on the ubuntu-devel mailing list when http://lists.ubuntulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel will be online :)
[02:08] <cran> topyli: it's really easy to do on your own
[02:08] <zdra> "connection refused" it says :)
[02:08] <topyli> cran: i guess, yeah
[02:08] <cran> topyli: I wonder how they solved the hal/dbus-1 issue I'm having
[02:08] <thoreauputic> zdra: heh
[02:09] <tylerdd> the directory of path mozilla?
[02:09] <zdra> oh it works now :)
[02:09] <topyli> cran: i wonder if they have documented the system well
[02:09] <HappyFool> tylerdd: you mean /usr/bin/mozilla ?
[02:09] <thoreauputic> zdra: sorry about the tab error ;)
[02:09] <zdra> lol
[02:10] <tylerdd> sip
[02:10] <znh> :b
[02:10] <XandriX> wth
[02:10] <XandriX> it stalled at 50% in configuring apt-get
[02:10] <tylerdd> look at this
[02:10] <tylerdd> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
[02:10] <tylerdd> or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):
[02:10] <tylerdd> ??
[02:11] <HappyFool> tylerdd: what are you trying to do?
[02:11] <znh> lol this is quite funny..  I didn't receive it :D
[02:13] <thoreauputic> znh: it's on the CD
[02:13] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:14] <znh> :/
[02:14] <tylerdd> okk
[02:14] <HappyFool> tylerdd: have you checked ubuntuguide.org ?
[02:14] <tylerdd> thanks
[02:14] <znh> well then i missed the installation option :)
[02:14] <tylerdd> yes
[02:14] <tylerdd> had beeb installed
[02:14] <topyli> tylerdd: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:14] <thoreauputic> znh: it isn't installed by default
[02:14] <znh> anyways how to manauly calculate the ETA of a download?
[02:14] <thoreauputic> znh: but it is on the CD
[02:14] <znh> size / speed ?
[02:15] <thoreauputic> znh: apt-get or wget will both automatically calculate ETA
[02:15] <znh> thoreauputic: yes thats right.. But i want to do it manualy
[02:15] <HappyFool> size of file downloaded / download rate
[02:16] <topyli> znh: divide size by speed?
[02:16] <XandriX> are there minimum requierments for ubuntu ??
[02:16] <topyli> znh: or vice versa, i don't know
[02:16] <topyli> :)
[02:16] <znh> so like:
[02:16] <znh> size = 5000 Kbyte
[02:16] <znh> speed = 1024 Kbyte
[02:16] <znh> size  / speed
[02:16] <znh> that would be 4
[02:16] <HappyFool> indeed
[02:16] <znh> 4 minutes?
[02:16] <daniel^> yes sir
[02:17] <topyli> znh: seconds i guess
[02:17] <Seveas> znh, speed is measure in kbyte/sec, not in kbyte...
[02:17] <Seveas> and 1024 kbyte/sec is a lot :)
[02:17] <znh> Seveas: hmm.. what does that change for my calculation ?
[02:17] <Seveas> znh, it gets the units right...
[02:17] <znh> yes, I ment.. what would it be then?
[02:17] <Seveas> so you actually get a menuingful answer for time...
[02:18] <topyli> znh: the unit kbyte/sec says it all in its name :)
[02:18] <XandriX> does ubuntu still crap ou ta bit in xfs ?
[02:18] <znh> size = 5000
[02:18] <znh> speed = 102
[02:18] <znh> size / speed
[02:18] <Seveas> if you really have a 1024 kbyte/sec downstream you could download a 4096 kbyte file in 4 seconds
[02:18] <znh> Seveas: well it's 102kbyte/sec ;)
[02:19] <Seveas> znh, 5000 WHAT, 102 WHAT..?
[02:19] <daniel^> 1mb/s sounds like fun
[02:19] <Seveas> you can't calculate without units...
[02:19] <jnoreiko> <-- now on Hoary! :)
[02:19] <pepsi> wtf are you guys talking about?
[02:19] <znh> Seveas: sheeps :>
[02:19] <pepsi> you weirdos
[02:19] <znh> pepsi: dogs and cats
[02:19] <Seveas> znh, go get a clue about math/physics...
[02:19] <pepsi> its raining :(
[02:19] <HappyFool> Seveas: were you ever a math/sci/eng tutor by any chance ? ;)
[02:19] <znh> Seveas: my brain doesn't support that.. known issue
[02:19] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: cool
[02:20] <pepsi> znh, thats a "feature"
[02:20] <thoreauputic> znh: put in a bug report *g8
[02:20] <znh> yea a missing feuture
[02:20] <Seveas> znh, then don't try to do these things if your brain doesn't support it.  If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[02:24] <znh> topyli: It's like unbalanced, some things I can very good.. somethings i just can't (what other people normaly would)
[02:24] <topyli> znh: sounds like me :)
[02:24] <ivanox> let's say I didnt know how much ram I have in my computer, how can I check it?
[02:25] <znh> ivanox: 'top' would help you
[02:25] <Heimdall> 'failed ot initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user 'username'. (samba) what does it mean ?
[02:25] <topyli> ivanox: free
[02:25] <thoreauputic> ivanox: cat /proc/meminfo
[02:25] <ivanox> thanks alot :)
[02:25] <znh_chirch> !whois god
[02:25] <ubotu> znh_chirch: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:25] <znh_chirch> xD
[02:26] <thoreauputic> znh_chirch: agnostic bot ;)
[02:26] <Seveas> hey, the mailing lists are back :D
[02:27] <topyli> !whois marx
[02:27] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, topyli
[02:28] <thoreauputic> topyli: and I bet he never heard of Descartes either
[02:28] <topyli> heh
[02:29] <Heimdall> for what reason samba would fail creating a new user account ?
[02:29] <lambert> hi
[02:29] <SDr> could someone name me a good ad-blocker for ubuntu [/firefox] ? [something similiar to admuncher would be nice]
[02:29] <ompaul> thoreauputic, reni descartes was a drunken fart who was very rearly stable, john stuart mill of his own free will admitted half a pint of shandy made him very very ill, and scorates himself is sadly missed, a lovely little thinker but a bugger when hes pissed :)
[02:30] <topyli> Heimdall: no excuse for such behavior :)
[02:30] <HappyFool> Heimdall: how are you creating the account? smdpasswd ?
[02:30] <thoreauputic> the mailing list may be back, but it lost 24 hrs worth of mail somewhere, it seems...
[02:30] <Heimdall> topyli : indeed... but it is a fact :)
[02:30] <Heimdall> yes
[02:30] <Heimdall> smbpasswd - a username
[02:31] <thoreauputic> ompaul: aye, and no-one expects the Spanish Inquisition !!
[02:31] <HappyFool> smbpasswd -a username --- no space between - and 'a'
[02:31] <Heimdall> yes
[02:31] <Heimdall> no space
[02:31] <HappyFool> Heimdall: also, must be 'sudo'
[02:31] <HappyFool> Heimdall: what error do you get?
[02:31] <Heimdall> yes
[02:32] <SDr> could someone name me a good ad-blocker for ubuntu [/firefox] ? [something similiar to admuncher would be nice]
[02:32] <Heimdall> failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user "username". Does this user exist un the UNIX password database ? Failed to modify entry for user "username"
[02:32] <tylerdd> someone have aireplay 2.2
[02:32] <tylerdd> ?
[02:32] <Heimdall> (hello HappyFool ;))
[02:32] <thoreauputic> SDr: the adblock extension for firefox?
[02:32] <HappyFool> Heimdall: good afternoon ;)
[02:32] <BrianHH> Hi, everyone.  I have a problem.  I installed gnome backgrounds, and now, for some inexplicable reason, my sound is gone.  Can someone help me?
[02:32] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hmm
[02:33] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I keep having strange things ;)
[02:33] <ompaul> thoreauputic, be careful one of those words is almost from the funniest joke in the world
[02:33] <HappyFool> Heimdall: do you perhaps have 'unix password sync = yes'  in smb.conf ?
[02:34] <thoreauputic> BrianHH: the connection seems tenuous...
[02:34] <Heimdall> hum let me look
[02:34] <BrianHH> thoreauputic:  That's what I thought.  That's what makes it inexplicable.
[02:34] <BrianHH> brb
[02:34] <thoreauputic> BrianHH: hmm
[02:34] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i don't think that it's set to 'yes' by default
[02:34] <HappyFool> Heimdall: have you tweaked smb.conf at all?
[02:35] <Heimdall> which one ? in etc/ or usr/share ?
[02:35] <Heimdall> HappyFool : no never
[02:35] <HappyFool> Heimdall: in /etc/samba
[02:35] <Heimdall> ok, because I have also in /usr/share/sambasmb.conf
[02:35] <sHaDe> irc.darksin.net
[02:35] <sHaDe> azz
[02:35] <Heimdall> sorry /usr/share/samba/smb.conf
[02:36] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hmm. i think that that file is just a sample
[02:36] <hulk> is it possible to start a program an another workspace?
[02:36] <Heimdall> HappyFool : that's a no
[02:36] <kbrooks> ping
[02:36] <HappyFool> Heimdall: err, what's a no?
[02:36] <thoreauputic> pong
[02:37] <topyli> hulk: in gnome, no
[02:37] <Heimdall> well unix paxxord syn=no
[02:37] <Heimdall> damn, password
[02:37] <kbrooks> kickstart is........
[02:37] <hulk> thx
[02:37] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok
[02:37] <Heimdall> rhooo
[02:37] <kbrooks> ocool?
[02:37] <Heimdall> well unix password sync=no
[02:37] <ompaul> thoreauputic, is the list starting to rev up again?
[02:37] <Heimdall> lol sorry :/
[02:37] <XandriX> is it possible to get a vnc in ubuntu by apt-get ??
[02:38] <thoreauputic> ompaul: looks like it - i have a small penguin trying to escape gkrellm here...
[02:38] <ompaul> thoreauputic, hmmmm
[02:38] <kbrooks> weirwd
[02:38] <kbrooks> honestly.
[02:38] <thoreauputic> ompaul: he does that when I have mail...
[02:38] <kbrooks> kickstart is better
[02:38] <ompaul> thoreauputic, yeah but in a flood
[02:39] <Heimdall> HappyFool : http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/lofiversion/index.php/t10725.html
[02:39] <HappyFool> Heimdall: could you put /etc/samba/smb.conf up on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl ?
[02:39] <ompaul> thoreauputic, pm ok ?
[02:39] <thoreauputic> ompaul: 17 messages so far
[02:39] <cb_> hello all...Anyone knows whether installation of Ubuntu will nicely erase SuSE and leave Win2K intact? I am dual booting now. Thanx.
[02:39] <ompaul> ooch
[02:39] <thoreauputic> ompaul: yeah
[02:39] <BrianHH> thoreauputic:  I fixed the problem.  For some reason, when it installed the backgrounds, it uninstalled gdm.  I reinstalled gdm and all is well now.
[02:39] <ompaul> cb_, it should
[02:39] <HappyFool> Heimdall: aargh. i did a test of smbpasswd, but the user i added exists on my system
[02:40] <thoreauputic> BrianHH: aha - very odd
[02:40] <ompaul> cb_, as long as you do it right :)
[02:40] <nameless> \id
[02:40] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i'm sure there must be a way to add an smb user without having a local user account
[02:40] <BrianHH> cb_:  I nicely installed Ubuntu over Fedora, so I assume it will work the same with Suse.
[02:40] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I believe you
[02:40] <cb_> BrianHH: U were also dul booting right?
[02:40] <nameless> Hello ppl!
[02:40] <cb_> dul=dual
[02:41] <BrianHH> cb_:  Yes.  I had XP on one partition, and Fedora on the other.
[02:42] <Heimdall> HappyFool : http://nico.aunai.free.fr/tmp/SMB.CON
[02:42] <cb_> Ok. Thanx. I'd then like to set up an ogg stream server. how hard can this be?
[02:42] <BrianHH> cb_:  As long as you install Ubuntu *after* you have Windows on the system, you should be fine.  If you try to install Windows over Linux, it kils the boot loader.
[02:42] <jnoreiko> HappyFool, upgrading from the mounted ISO worked, btw. :)
[02:42] <BrianHH> cb_:  I've never done that.
[02:42] <XandriX> how do you list packages installable in ubuntu again its dkpg something
[02:42] <cb_> ok
[02:43] <tylerdd> someone had proved aireplay 2.2
[02:43] <tylerdd> ?
[02:43] <BrianHH> cb_:  You can set up your machine as an FTP server and access your ogg files remotely that way.
[02:43] <Danar> why doesn't ubuntu have xine?
[02:44] <XandriX> danar it can have it
[02:44] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: good to here
[02:44] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hrm. a quick browse of smb.conf doesn't reveal how to have 'smb only' users
[02:44] <Danar> root@ubuntu:/mnt/hdb4 # apt-get install xine
[02:44] <Danar> Reading package lists... Done
[02:44] <Danar> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:44] <Danar> E: Couldn't find package xine
[02:44] <HappyFool> Heimdall: easy option is to add the user to your system before running smbpasswd
[02:45] <Danar> nor gxine either
[02:45] <cb_> BrianHH: I wanted to see how I could help a small radio station have internet presence. FTP would not work here.
[02:45] <XandriX> danar did u update you rpackage list
[02:45] <topyli> Danar: it's libxine and xine-ui
[02:45] <HappyFool> Heimdall: add a user either with adduser (command line) or System -> Administration -> Users and Groups
[02:45] <Danar> E: Package xine-ui has no installation candidate
[02:46] <Heimdall> HappyFool : but it is not said that I have to add user to my system before
[02:46] <topyli> Danar: you don't have the universe repository in sources.list
[02:46] <kestas> when youve got a user with a user id of 1000, and you want to share files via NFS with a user account which has a user id of 1001, what do you do?
[02:46] <Leeon> Anyone here had a problem with mysql connections in php 4?
[02:46] <BrianHH> cb_:  I don't know.  Maybe you could see if there's a Real Producer for Linux.  Other than that, I'm not familiar with such software.
[02:46] <masahiro> how come alsaconf won't work?
[02:46] <HappyFool> Heimdall: it's news to me too
[02:46] <cb_> ok
[02:46] <resiak> cb_: Search for Icecast
[02:46] <Heimdall> HappyFool : on the ubuntu website it is not said too
[02:46] <BrianHH> For some reason, my cd drive won't play CDs in Ubuntu.
[02:47] <HappyFool> Heimdall: however, if you read 'man smbpasswd', you'll find this: 'the default passdb backends require the user to already exist in the system password file (usually /etc/passwd)'
[02:47] <HappyFool> Heimdall: possibly the wiki page is incorrect
[02:47] <HappyFool> Heimdall: what's the URL ?
[02:47] <Heimdall> err :/
[02:47] <Heimdall> oh it is in french ;)
[02:47] <HappyFool> heh
[02:47] <Leeon> "Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in..." I do have php4-mysql installed (I am using php 4.3.10)... It worked last night. I haven't done a thing (update or so)...
[02:47] <HappyFool> ok, i won't try to update it then
[02:47] <masahiro> *the command alsaconf dosen't work!!!*
[02:47] <HappyFool> Heimdall: add a comment to the bottom regarding this, if you like
[02:48] <Heimdall> HappyFool : http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/applications/samba it has to be some equivalent in english, removing the '-fr' and putting '.com' instead of '.org'
[02:48] <topyli> masahiro: there's no such command
[02:48] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you will need an ubuntulinux.org account; shouldn't take long to create one
[02:48] <masahiro> alsaconf?
[02:48] <Heimdall> HappyFool: oh, cool :)
[02:48] <topyli> masahiro: yes
[02:49] <BrianHH> Okay, now this isn't good.   Anyone know how to get higher?
[02:50] <HappyFool> Heimdall: just to check -- you never got your modem working?
[02:50] <Heimdall> HappyFool : it already works
[02:50] <Heimdall> HappyFool : no... :)
[02:50] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok
[02:51] <dantheman64>  I'm stuck in a 640 x 480 resolution! Anyone know how to get higher?
[02:51] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you have connected your laptop and other computer ?
[02:51] <Heimdall> HappyFool : don't care... my other one will be here soon ;)
[02:51] <kcburyshaker> im trying to figure out why these people have so many probs   ubuntu installed perfectly for me and everything works
[02:51] <Heimdall> HappyFool : yes, but the other is under winXP
[02:51] <hussam> how do I schedule a cron job for a task to run as root every 60 minutes? I also don't want it to not log anything.
[02:51] <HappyFool> kcburyshaker: unsupported hardware, typically
[02:51] <BrianHH> dantheman64:  Menu -> Prefernces => Screen Resolution
[02:51] <kcburyshaker> ahhhh
[02:51] <Danar> nvm, got it
[02:51] <liable> resiak: you still here?
[02:51] <HappyFool> hussam: 'man crontab'
[02:51] <resiak> liable: Vaguely.
[02:52] <Heimdall> HappyFool : this is the one with which I can be here :)
[02:52] <liable> resiak:htf do you run alsaconf for ubuntu?
[02:52] <topyli> masahiro: what are you trying to do exactly? there's no sound or what?
[02:52] <HappyFool> Heimdall: cool. you *should* be able to enable 'internet sharing' or something under win xp, to get your laptop online
[02:52] <BrianHH> kcburyshaker:  Sometimes different configurations have hardware issues.
[02:52] <HappyFool> Heimdall: but i'm not sure how that works
[02:52] <masahiro> yup no sound
[02:52] <masahiro> and cant fix at all
[02:52] <topyli> which card is it?
[02:52] <resiak> liable: You don't. You "don't need it. Discover always works". :)
[02:52] <lcore> metacity->config editor->global_keybindings: Howto bind a command to Win/Tux key?
[02:52] <masahiro> i dont know
[02:53] <Leeon> why isn't there any php5 -packages avalible?
[02:53] <Heimdall> HappyFool : apparently the netwok work, but I have to create a samba account to access to my laptop from XP
[02:53] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yeah
[02:53] <masahiro> Liable gave me some commands but i didnt understand the stuff it came up with
[02:53] <bob2> Leeon: there, are just not in ubuntu
[02:53] <liable> resiak: ok, there isnt a 'alsaconf'?
[02:53] <masahiro> im pretty sure its realtek though
[02:53] <HappyFool> Heimdall: can't you use your 'normal' account -- 'heimdall', or whatever it might be?
[02:53] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I never been able to do it with two win, so imagine to share my connection with my ubuntu :-D
[02:53] <topyli> masahiro: try lspci | grep audio
[02:53] <kbrooks> Leeon, because none at debian has arsed to generate some? google php 5 debian
[02:53] <Danar> uh, i installed xine, and it says it doesn't support MPEG 2/3. wtf?
[02:53] <Heimdall> HappyFool : hum... it does not look very secure
[02:54] <masahiro> and it just prompts : root@computer:/home/ashley #
[02:54] <topyli> Danar: no codecs
[02:54] <bob2> lists are back
[02:54] <resiak> liable: Nope. It's dumb.
[02:54] <Leeon> okey :)
[02:54] <Danar> topyli, yeah... apparently. so.. ?
[02:54] <HappyFool> Heimdall: then create another user on your laptop, and use smbpasswd on that account
[02:54] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you can always disable logins for the extra account
[02:54] <kcburyshaker> is there any way to get evolution to sit in the "system tray" so it is always "on"
[02:54] <thoreauputic> bob2: yah, the avalanche has resumed...
[02:54] <Heimdall> HappyFool : it is done :)
[02:54] <liable> resiak: trying to help masahiro but I have come up against a brick wall. Loaded what *I* think is the right module, but no alsaconf.
[02:55] <Heimdall> HappyFool : it is working well :)
[02:55] <HappyFool> Heimdall: good stuff
[02:55] <topyli> !codecs
[02:55] <ubotu> methinks codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:55] <resiak> liable: Add to /etc/modules, reboot?
[02:55] <topyli> Danar: ^
[02:55] <thoreauputic> liable: no alsaconf in Ubuntu
[02:55] <masahiro> BRB
[02:56] <Heimdall> HappyFool : yeaaah :) in fact I'm configuring network because my next modem will be plugged on my RJ45 port
[02:56] <XandriX> stupid old box with low meme taking hours to do the final steps
[02:56] <XandriX> ...
[02:56] <resiak> thoreauputic: We've just been through that
[02:56] <liable> thoreauputic: how does it get configured.  Just wanted to ask whether you have problems with XKB with recent xorg
[02:57] <liable> masahiro: you listening, you need to add that module to /etc/modules and reboot
[02:57] <liable> masahiro: *if* its the right one!
[02:57] <liable> I thought ubuntu picked hardware up well?
[02:58] <resiak> liable: Not always, it seems. I've almost stopped recommending it over Sarge to newbies
[02:58] <ompaul> liable, it is liable to pick up hardware well, I have it on three boxes I support
[02:58] <Heimdall> HappyFool : do you know how toa ccess to the network in the cmmand line way ?
[02:59] <ompaul> liable, what h/ware is it not picking up?
[02:59] <Danar> thx, think i got it
[02:59] <liable> hmm, funny thing is, he had a sony_acpi module loaded on a hp desktop?
[02:59] <liable> doesnt sound good
[02:59] <ompaul> ooch
[02:59] <liable> ompaul: sound
[03:00] <ompaul> liable, how many sound cards are on it?
[03:00] <liable> 1
[03:00] <liable> one sec
[03:01] <liable> 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)
[03:01] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you mean accessing shares ?
[03:01] <kestas> can you change a users user id?
[03:01] <ompaul> so it found it
[03:01] <splatboy> hi
[03:01] <Heimdall> yes
[03:01] <splatboy> where could i find my grub-config ?
[03:01] <kestas> Heimdall: how?
[03:01] <HappyFool> Heimdall: smbclient on linux
[03:01] <Heimdall> like in shortcuts
[03:01] <thoreauputic> splatboy: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:01] <splatboy> thx
[03:01] <splatboy> kiss
[03:01] <splatboy> :)
[03:01] <rc51woody> morning room
[03:01] <liable> from what I seen should be a azt module (or whatever it is )
[03:01] <HappyFool> Heimdall: like this: smbclient //windowsmachine/sharename -U username
[03:02] <HappyFool> Heimdall: for nautilus and firefox you can use smb://windowsmachinename/sharename
[03:02] <HappyFool> Heimdall: not sure if i've answered your question
[03:03] <Heimdall> not sure too :-D
[03:03] <rc51woody> hey in my synaptic, it says it could not download all repository indexes... what should i do
[03:03] <m-onkey> High|ander, I've got a problem with mounting my floppy
[03:04] <m-onkey> s/High|ander/hi
[03:04] <thoreauputic> rc51woody: check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:04] <m-onkey> mount /dev/fd0 /flopyy doesnt work but mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /flopyy works
[03:04] <bob2> liable: I'm not sure what it's supposed to do on any os
[03:05] <m-onkey> somebody here who knows the problem?
[03:05] <ompaul> liable,  I had a different issue with sound but this may help
[03:05] <liable> hmmm, well, if it detects a just loaded soundcard in debian, how does it get detected in ubuntu?
[03:06] <Heimdall> HappyFool : ok I have put my ubuntu in english it will be easier to comunicate..., well I wanna do in console mode what I can do from "places->network servers"
[03:06] <HappyFool> Heimdall: smbclient is a useful tool for this
[03:06] <rc51woody> thoreaupatic: im in that directory, what do i do now?
[03:06] <HappyFool> Heimdall: try also 'smbtree'
[03:06] <HappyFool> Heimdall: e.g., to list shares on a computer, try 'smbclient -L windowsmachine'
[03:06] <ompaul> can I message you the /etc/esound/esd.conf
[03:06] <liable> ompaul: me?
[03:06] <ompaul> liable, yes
[03:06] <thoreauputic> rc51woody: less sources.list and check it for errors?
[03:06] <liable> ompaul: ok, not me having the problem though.
[03:07] <ompaul> ahh
[03:07] <Heimdall> HappyFool : smbtree do that too :)
[03:07] <bob2> liable: it doesn't do that on debian, either
[03:07] <ompaul> liable, who is
[03:07] <bob2> liable: hotplug or discover loads the module for it
[03:07] <HappyFool> Heimdall: to be honest i've never used smbtree
[03:07] <HappyFool> ok, i'm off
[03:07] <liable> ompaul: masahiro
[03:07] <Heimdall> :)
[03:07] <kimonas> yes
[03:07] <liable> bob2: yes, but its not being loded, and appears to be suppoted.
[03:07] <liable> supported
[03:08] <liable> loaded too
[03:08] <rc51woody> only thing thats different from the original is the there are no #'s in front of the last 3 lines
[03:08] <thoreauputic> rc51woody: or paste it in #flood and someone might see a problem, if there is one
[03:08] <liable> sheesh
[03:08] <splatboy> go another question : i'm used to use lilo bootloader : do i need to run a command like : grub or so : to write it to my mbr ?
[03:08] <splatboy> or is just saving config file enough ?
[03:08] <bob2> liable: if hotplug doesn't load the module, it's very unlikely modprobe will work, either
[03:08] <ompaul> this may be of use:: [esd] , auto_spawn=1, spawn_wait_ms=100, default_options = -terminate -nobeeps -as 2    the commas indicate different lines
[03:09] <m-onkey> grub-install
[03:09] <jnoreiko> slight hitch... upgrading to hoary hasn't updated my repositories. is it just http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ with hoary instead of warty for the distro name?
[03:09] <thoreauputic> splatboy: you don't need to run grub, no
[03:09] <ralph> Hi, I'm trying to use bugzilla.ubuntu.com and finding it *very* slow;  is this a known problem or just me?
[03:09] <liable> bob2: modprobe didnt complain though
[03:09] <splatboy> what do i need to do ?
[03:09] <splatboy> just save the config-file ?
[03:09] <bob2> ralph: are you on dialup?
[03:09] <thoreauputic> splatboy: oh sorry I misread you
[03:09] <splatboy> ?
[03:09] <ralph> bob2: Yes, although it's just like pre-Ubuntu speed-wise for Google, BBC News, etc.
[03:10] <bob2> ralph: yeah, bugzilla will suck
[03:10] <ralph> bob2: I've got around the ttyS0 being 9600 baud by default if that's what you're thinking of.
[03:10] <ompaul> launchpad is much nicer for bugs
[03:10] <bob2> launchpad is still quite incomplete, tho
[03:10] <liable> maybe I should just shut up about hardware I dont have, on a system I dont have. :)
[03:10] <heiko_> hi ...
[03:11] <bob2> but they're doing excellent work on it
[03:11] <heiko_> I've got some problems with video playback on 5.04
[03:11] <ompaul> bob2, ohh no, will it be as clunky as bugzilla? ;-)
[03:11] <ompaul> it is sweet
[03:11] <heiko_> xmms does play sound, but vlc doesn't. here's the error ...
[03:11] <bob2> ompaul: not while I'm still around to bitch ;p
[03:11] <ompaul> bob2, hehehe
[03:11] <Addius> well that could have gone better, I'll try writing my problem again ~_~
[03:11] <masahiro> im back
[03:12] <heiko_> [00000276]  oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)
[03:12] <heiko_> /dev/dsp does exist. any idea what's wrong here?
[03:12] <topyli> heiko_: maybe xmms knows you're using esd but vlc doesn't
[03:12] <heiko_> (am I?)
[03:13] <topyli> heiko_: try killing esd and try vlc after that
[03:13] <heiko_> okay
[03:13] <Addius> I'm getting 'operation not permitted' when doing a 'modprobe ndiswrapper', anyone who could hint me in the right direction?
[03:13] <bob2> Addius: so, you enabled the root account?
[03:13] <liable> masahiro: good luck, outa ideas. :(
[03:14] <heiko_> topyli, it works now. thanks
[03:14] <masahiro> what was that about modules?
[03:14] <Addius> bob2: nopes, I've tried but I haven't figured out how to do that in ubuntu yet, heh..
[03:14] <topyli> heiko_: yeah, but now esd doesn't work :)
[03:14] <bob2> Addius: odd
[03:14] <heiko_> topyli, but how can i fix that permanently?
[03:15] <topyli> heiko_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8882
[03:15] <Saketzu> my ISA sound card SB AWE64 Gold doesn't work, does anyone have ideas for that? (i'm using Hoary, Linux 2.6.10-5-386)
[03:15] <bob2> that will be painful
[03:15] <bob2> you don't have any pci sound cards?
[03:15] <Saketzu> well, ac97 on the motherboard
[03:15] <masahiro> liable masahiro: you listening, you need to add that module to /etc/modules and reboot
[03:16] <masahiro> what was that about? cos i am here now
[03:16] <Saketzu> but AWE64 Gold has *great* sound quality... guess i'll have to use ac97, if it doesn't work in hoary
[03:17] <liable> masahiro: the snd-azt3328 module, try it, I have no better advice. Sorry.
[03:17] <bob2> Saketzu: it works fine
[03:17] <bob2> it's just not automatic
[03:18] <masahiro> how do i put it on? or do i just google for it?
[03:18] <Saketzu> bob2: how can i set it up? I can't see isapnptools...
[03:19] <masahiro> liable masahiro: the snd-azt3328 module, try it, I have no better advice. Sorry. - Anybody know how to do that?
[03:19] <bob2> Saketzu: its there
[03:20] <Danar> still can't play media
[03:20] <Danar> mplayer does nothing, and xine plays video, but not audio
[03:21] <Saketzu> bob2: should i use oss?
[03:21] <bob2> Saketzu: I don't know
[03:21] <NicP> danar what u trying to play
[03:21] <Danar> a video file
[03:21] <NicP> can you be more specific
[03:22] <Danar> first time i tried to play it in xine, it said it couldn't play mpeg 2/3
[03:22] <Danar> got codecs, and now it plays without that, but there's no sound
[03:22] <NicP> have u installed the win32 codecs
[03:22] <Danar> yeah
[03:22] <NicP> have u tried in totem?
[03:22] <NicP> is there sound in other apps?
[03:23] <Danar> there's sound when i click to run programs
[03:23] <NicP> ok
[03:23] <Danar> makes that *bop* sound
[03:23] <NicP> so did u try in totem?
[03:23] <Danar> er, no
[03:23] <NicP> well go for it then
[03:23] <Danar> doing so
[03:24] <Danar> no decoders found
[03:24] <Heimdall> I'd like to make a little command that mount the floppy and open a nautilus window, but it does not work, wy ? because one has to be root ?
[03:25] <NicP> wierd
[03:25] <NicP> works fine for me with all my video files
[03:25] <NicP> prehaps check the forums
[03:25] <Danar> totem won't play anything
[03:25] <NicP> really?
[03:25] <Danar> always says 'no decoders found'
[03:26] <Heimdall> well it works but only when I type it in a term
[03:26] <Addius> bob2: erhm, I got the root-account working, but while using that I still get the 'operation not permitted' and 'Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/.../ndiswrapper.ko)' when doing the modprobe..
[03:26] <bob2> Addius: sure, that won't help
[03:26] <bob2> I was just asking if you had
[03:26] <NicP> you followed the instructions on ubuntuguide.org when u installed the codecs?
[03:27] <Danar> er, from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats
[03:27] <Addius> bob2: heh, okay. But you wouldn't happen to know where to head from here?
[03:27] <Danar> got the repositories, and installed from synaptic
[03:27] <bob2> Addius: what does 'uname -r' print?
[03:27] <Danar>  -r, --kernel-release
[03:27] <Danar>               print the kernel release
[03:27] <Addius> bob2: 2.6.10-5-386
[03:28] <NicP> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[03:28] <Danar> heh, oops.
[03:28] <NicP> try that
[03:29] <NicP> otherwise i'm outta ideas
[03:29] <NicP> :P
[03:29] <bionic> uhm no grub.conf in ubuntu 5.04?
[03:29] <yahalom> anyone here using netgear products?
[03:29] <jnoreiko> is there a way to remove a package, and also its dependencies?
[03:30] <jnoreiko> I've just installed something I realize I don't need, and it fetched loads of other packages
[03:30] <yahalom> jnoreiko, tried removing it?
[03:30] <yahalom> jnoreiko, it might remove the dependencies
[03:31] <jnoreiko> no, it's only marked itself (in synaptic)
[03:31] <mjr>  ,30
[03:31] <mjr> whops
[03:31] <jnoreiko> failing that, is there a log file of what I've installed?
[03:33] <Danar> NicP, strange. now totem plays the audio, but not the video
[03:33] <Mez> so whats the easiest way to instlal javba?
[03:34] <olajuwon> yo! wazzup??
[03:34] <Heimdall> where can I find LeTeX2e package for ubuntu ?
[03:34] <Heimdall> where can I find LaTeX2e package for ubuntu ?
[03:35] <Mez> Heimdall, no need to spam
[03:35] <Heimdall> Mez sorry
[03:35] <Danar> arg, mplayer isn't responding, and won't close
[03:35] <Saketzu> killall -6 mplayer
[03:36] <Danar> that did nothing
[03:36] <Saketzu> killall -9 mplayer
[03:36] <Danar> mplayer: no process killed
[03:37] <Heimdall> so, nobody uses latex here ? :/
[03:37] <liable> try gmplayer
[03:37] <Danar> that did it
[03:37] <Danar> thx
[03:38] <Danar> well, xine plays it fine now
[03:38] <NicP> Heimdall, just learning latex
[03:38] <NicP> Danar, good to hear :)
[03:39] <Heimdall> NicP : where did you dowload the base package ?
[03:39] <Addius> meh, I'm still getting operation not permitted when trying to run 'modprobe ndiswrapper'.. would it make any sense if root didn't have access to /lib/modules/?
[03:40] <NicP> Heimdall, just been playing around with the frontends
[03:40] <liable> Addius: root has access to everything
[03:40] <NicP> searching stuff in synaptic
[03:41] <Heimdall> oh..
[03:41] <Danar> ok, thx ppl
[03:41] <Addius> liable: That's what I thought too.. In other words there's something else wrong and I'm just bad at interprating the Error-message
[03:41] <Heimdall> this is very odd, there is not package latex on packages.ubuntu.com
[03:42] <liable> Addius: wheres the drivers stored for ndiswrapper?
[03:42] <Addius> liable: you mean the one I'm trying to get working? I don't know actually, any way to check?
[03:42] <lsuactiafner> Heimdall : ubuntu developers are allergic to latex
[03:42] <lsuactiafner> try 'plastic'
[03:43] <jfil> hi, do u know how to regenerate/rebuild /var/lib/dpkg/info if been removed?
[03:43] <jfil> one option is reinstall all the packages
[03:43] <jfil> other one?
[03:43] <liable> Addius: erm, no, I dont know, didnt you copy the driver to somewhere?
[03:43] <ompaul> Heimdall, do this 'apt-cache search latex' one or two results for you
[03:43] <Addius> liable: you mean the windows-driver?
[03:43] <Heimdall> lsuactiafner : ok, but they should be openned
[03:44] <Heimdall> ompaul : berk
[03:44] <thoreauputic> !java
[03:44] <ubotu> somebody said java was https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[03:44] <liable> Addius: yes
[03:44] <ompaul> Heimdall, hu?
[03:44] <Addius> liable: ah, I just put it in /lib/, didn't know of any better place to put it
[03:45] <Heimdall> ompaul : well this has nothing to do with latex :/
[03:45] <liable> Addius: did you follow some sort of howto?
[03:46] <Addius> liable: yeah, "HowToSetUpNdiswrapper" from the ubuntu-wiki
[03:46] <sherv> hello people, I encountered a problem installing Ubuntu on my laptop(Asus SN5), can anyone give me assistance?
[03:46] <jnoreiko> does synaptic keep a log of what it's installed?
[03:47] <anto9us> jnoreiko: click status and installed
[03:47] <liable> Addius: well, if its in the right spot, go over it all again, and double check.
[03:47] <jnoreiko> ...  The installation went fine, but when I boot the system, I only get a black screen when it tries to load X. Does ANYONE have a clue?
[03:49] <Heimdall> so there are 500 persons here... and nobidy uses latex :-D
[03:49] <sherv> I use tex, maybe i can help
[03:50] <HumpBack> sherv: i use lyx
[03:50] <anto9us> jnoreiko: hmmm... looks like a installed date column would be handy in there
[03:50] <Heimdall> sherv : maybe... I'm looking for a website or ftp where I could download the package altex for ubuntu ?
[03:50] <HumpBack> uppps
[03:50] <HumpBack> Heimdall: I use lyx
[03:50] <Heimdall> what is lyx ?
[03:50] <Addius> liable: no, I'm still getting the same error =/
[03:50] <HumpBack> sherv: I have a i830, it is similar, same kernel module and driver
[03:51] <sherv> heimdall:ooh, sorry man do know
[03:51] <HumpBack> Heimdall: a nice wysiwyg editor that generates tex
[03:51] <Addius> liable: now ndiswrapper is claiming that the driver is invalid though, so I'm guessing this is pretty much as far as I can go if it doesn't work with the windows-driver
[03:51] <Heimdall> HumpBack oh ok, but I prefer type my own code with emacs :)
[03:51] <sherv> HumbBack: are you referring to my problem with 915GM?
[03:52] <Heimdall> HumpBack : but I need latex to compile
[03:53] <ompaul> Heimdall, I did not go out of my way to install extra packages, however be aware that latex -v results in the following e-TeX (Web2C 7.4.5) 3.14159-2.1 and the query I gave you to use on the apt database has 189 lines of potentially useful information this is ubuntu hoary
[03:53] <sherv> Heimdall: if you only need a tex compiler, why don't you use 'dselect'?
[03:53] <Addius> liable: anyways, thanks for the help
[03:54] <HumpBack> sherv: if you want i can send you my xorg conf, it will probably work with some tweaking for you
[03:54] <sherv> Humbpack: please do
[03:56] <liable> Addius: got the right file? for the driver, theres two, and one doesnt work
[03:56] <Heimdall> sherv : I only know latex, come from windows
[03:57] <JloR> I'm having some serious problems with my new (2 weeks old.. approx.) ubuntu install. My desktop icons are gone - and i can't start Nautilus anymore, nor can i right-click on my desktop to gain that menu where I could choose to start shells etc. Does anyone know how to fix this? Or what might be causing it?
[03:57] <Addius> liable: the right file? I'm supposed to use the windowsdriver from the manufacturor ain't I?
[03:58] <liable> Addius: yes but there is two files generally I think. I havent actualyy used ndiwrapper, but read there is generally two files.
[03:58] <sherv> sorry, Humpback, please try again,
[03:58] <rc51woody> once i install java
[03:58] <rc51woody> how do i ensure firefox knows i have it?
[03:59] <Addius> liable: okay, no I was supplied with only one .inf file
[03:59] <sherv> Heimdall: tex is a more general term for latex. do you know how to install packages on linux?
[04:00] <liable> Addius: ok, if my memory serves me right, thats the right one.
[04:00] <android> I have a problem with LimeWire.. It says: Unable to access jarfile LimeWire.jar
[04:00] <HumpBack> sherv: latex is a set of macros for tex
[04:00] <ompaul> JloR, before you try to start the next session do this click on session and choose gnome over default, if that does not fix it then you may need to take some other action, have you added some software or removed some that you know of?
[04:01] <Addius> liable: is there any chance that perhaps an older driver might work better?
[04:01] <shop> hi dark its shopgirl
[04:01] <JloR> ompaul, I haven't removed any - but I have added a few things (games / programs / java / drivers / etc. -- and upgraded what was on it of course)
[04:01] <Seveas> sherv, tex isn't a more general term for latex
[04:01] <Heimdall> sherv : apt-get ?
[04:02] <Seveas> latex is a set of macros for tex
[04:02] <sherv> Heimdall: sure, anything you like, I use dselect
[04:02] <Heimdall> Seveas : yes itis different
[04:02] <ompaul> JloR, okay well try what I suggested first if that fails I would try 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' in a terminal
[04:02] <Seveas> sherv, dselect is deprecated :)
[04:02] <sherv> Seveas, ohh ok
[04:02] <liable> Addius: sorry dude, absolutely no idea.
[04:02] <Seveas> better use aptitude if you want a curese based application
[04:02] <Heimdall> Seveas : but, how can it be possible that ubuntu does not propose latex packages ?
[04:03] <neighborlee> is the concensus that reiserfs is safe ..I  aSsume it is or it would not be available in install ? ;-))
[04:03] <JloR> thanks ompaul - but last time I tried to logout it didn't work. I had to ctrl-alt-del my way to the login screen. Will try what you suggested. Be back later.
[04:03] <Seveas> Heimdall, it does :)
[04:03] <amr> does anyone here know how to install mod_python for apache2? i've tried with absolutely no success
[04:03] <ompaul> Heimdall, have you typed 'laytex' at a command line yet? because from what I have seen it just works
[04:03] <amr> is there an apt package i can just install?
[04:03] <Addius> liable: aff, then I'll have to go back to getting the 'native' driver working. Thanks for the help though!
[04:03] <Heimdall> Seveas : well not in the cd, nor in the packages.ubuntu.com
[04:03] <Seveas> Heimdall, tetex-{base,bin,doc,extra}
[04:03] <coriolan_> hello all, i have a little question: i have two computers and I want to use one with firewire from the other. i managed to ping the other computer with eth1394 but then what am i supposed to do?
[04:04] <Seveas> Ubuntu provides the tetex distribution of latex
[04:04] <Heimdall> Seveas ? tetex ? latex ? I havenothing
[04:04] <ompaul> xemacs21 <-- for the good gnus
[04:05] <Seveas> Heimdall, it's in base, are you sure you have installing from the network enabled?
[04:05] <Seveas> it's in main*
[04:05] <JloR> didn't help the least.. :/
[04:05] <Heimdall> Seveas ; sorry, I don't understand
[04:05] <ompaul> JloR, next up apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:05] <JloR> yea, thanks.
[04:05] <Seveas> Heimdall, type: apt-cache show tetex-base
[04:06] <amr> does anyone here know how to install mod_python for apache2? i've tried with absolutely no success
[04:06] <amr> is there an apt package i can just install?
[04:06] <Seveas> if that shows nothing, you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:06] <Seveas> amr, libapache2-mod-python
[04:06] <Heimdall> Seveas : no packages found
[04:06] <amr> Seveas, thank you very much :)
[04:06] <JloR> hmm, ompaul it just told me that it already is newest version and that it didn't upgrade anything..
[04:06] <Seveas> Heimdall: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:06] <Seveas> follow that guide
[04:06] <ompaul> JloR, okay then it has not been uninstalled :-)
[04:06] <Seveas> Heimdall: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[04:07] <JloR> :-) no
[04:07] <Seveas> and add these sources
[04:07] <ompaul> JloR, ohh hang on a sec
[04:07] <JloR> sure
[04:08] <ompaul> JloR, something funny in the back of my mind - do this - ls -al ~gkxjmrep/.I*
[04:08] <amr> Seveas, that didn't work
[04:08] <ompaul> JloR, who owns that file?
[04:08] <amr> Apache/2.0.53 (Ubuntu) mod_python/3.1.3 Python/2.4.1 PHP/4.3.10-10ubuntu4 Server at localhost Port 80
[04:08] <amr> is that any use to you?
[04:08] <amr> :o different versions of python
[04:09] <Seveas> amr, it says you have mod_python installed there...
[04:09] <ompaul> JloR, it should be your local user
[04:09] <JloR> no such file or directory..
[04:09] <Heimdall> Seveas : my linux isn't connected to the web
[04:09] <amr> so the .py file should just work, yea?
[04:09] <ompaul> JloR, okay
[04:09] <Seveas> mod_py 3.1.3 using py 2.4.1
[04:09] <amr> Seveas, is that ok?
[04:10] <amr> or do i need to do that AddType in the config
[04:10] <Seveas> amr, yes. But you do know that programming with mod_python is completely different from programming with python as cgi, i hope..
[04:10] <Seveas> Heimdall, then download the tetex packages from packages.ubuntu.com on another machine
[04:10] <Seveas> and transfer them via cd or usb stick
[04:10] <amr> Seveas, yeah I do, but it just asks me if i want to download the file
[04:11] <Seveas> amr, you should use an AddHandler etc..
[04:11] <Heimdall> yeah but is tetex the same thing that 'latex' ?
[04:11] <Seveas> read the mod_python docs...
[04:11] <Seveas> Heimdall, tetex is a distribution for latex
[04:11] <Seveas> so basically: yes
[04:11] <amr> Seveas, oki, thanks :)
[04:11] <Heimdall> okay
[04:12] <maybe> hi, i've deleted /var/lib/dpkg/info!!! how can i rebuild it?? please help me this is very important for me
[04:13] <HumpBack> maybe: why on earth did you do that?
[04:13] <XandriX> i orderd them in april ...
[04:13] <neighborlee> any reason why the website to order CD's doesn't use https ???
[04:13] <lsuactiafner> i once removed glibc to see if it would indeed break my system..
[04:13] <maybe> i'm not expert, HumpBack
[04:14] <lsuactiafner> and it did..
[04:14] <lsuactiafner> lol
[04:14] <Seveas> maybe, then why the hell did you touch it at all??
[04:14] <sherv> Has anyONe out there had any 'black screens' when starting X using the intel 916GM chipset?
[04:14] <maybe> Seveas, want to solve it... i thought its content was not important, temporal
[04:15] <Seveas> maybe, then again, why remove things you don't understand...
[04:15] <Seveas> maybe, dpkg --update-avail /var/lib/apt/lists/ might help you...
[04:16] <amr> hmm
[04:16] <Seveas> or maybe even a simple apt-get update
[04:16] <amr> it appears mptest or something is broken
[04:16] <dougsk> maybe, try this link http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/examples/debian-package-database-rebuild
[04:16] <amr> Mod_python error: "PythonHandler mptest"
[04:17] <Seveas> ehm ouch, maybe
[04:17] <Seveas> /var/lib/dpkg/info os only recoverable by reinstalling Ubuntu
[04:17] <Seveas> that's what you get for doing things you should *never* do
[04:18] <sniker> hi, anyones have experience with the package timeout for amd64?
[04:18] <Seveas> hmm dougsk that script looks nice
[04:18] <dantheman64> I am trying to install ATI modules/drivers for my graphics card. When I do "apt-get install fglrx-driver" it has two options
[04:18] <dantheman64> Which do I choose?
[04:19] <dougsk> Seveas, just googled a bit.  never personally had to use it
[04:19] <Seveas> dougsk, but I guess someone like maybe might have deleted /usr/share/doc as well...
[04:19] <dougsk> Seveas, yeah, that could happen and then it falls down
[04:20] <Seveas> some people do too stupid things to imagine...
[04:20] <dougsk> Seveas, yeah, but I suppose it's how we learn
[04:21] <Seveas> no, learning these things should be done with manuals/documentation
[04:21] <Seveas> not by randomly removing stuff...
[04:22] <dougsk> Seveas, heh heh
[04:24] <Rounin> Hey... I installed Ubuntu on my laptop a while ago, but when it came to booting it up, it killed init, citing some problem with the graphics I believe... Anyone have any idea what that could be about?
[04:24] <Rounin> Could I have fixed it by booting with nofb or something in that order?
[04:25] <dantheman64> Rounin, have you tried booting into the recovery mode and looking at the logs?
[04:25] <musashi> Anyone have a good tutorial for making clearlooks themes?
[04:25] <dantheman64> musashi, there might be something at http://art.gnome.org/
[04:25] <musashi> ok!
[04:27] <gabriel82> how can i install kde on ubuntu?
[04:27] <dougsk> gabriel82, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:27] <Seveas> gabriel82, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[04:27] <dantheman64> It might be easier to use the packager manager, no?
[04:27] <gabriel82> thank you guys
[04:27] <Rounin> dantheman64: Nah... I nistalled Fedora Core instead... :P I wonder if I have a partition where I could try again though
[04:28] <Seveas> Rounin, FC4 is a spawn of the devil :)
[04:28] <Rounin> Seems to be a pretty normal distro to me
[04:28] <Rounin> Though with a EULA, of course, and about 90 package tools
[04:29] <dougsk> Seveas, except it has Xen, and Netscape directory server, thigns I'm very much interested in trying
[04:29] <Seveas> and packed with incompatibility madness :)
[04:29] <kcburyshaker> lol
[04:29] <kcburyshaker> i almost downloaded fc4 instead of ubuntu
[04:30] <kcburyshaker> sounds like i made the right choice
[04:30] <Rounin> Yeah.. Thing is, FC4 didn't induce a kernel panic on the first bootup
[04:30] <Rounin> I'm going to see if I can't try Ubuntu again though
[04:30] <Rounin> Perhaps I have an older version
[04:30] <Seveas> Rounin, you might have been bitten by the initrd bug that was present for a week in the kernel packages :)
[04:31] <Seveas> did it say: VFS not syncing, attempying to kill init
[04:31] <Seveas> or pivot_root: $something not found
[04:31] <Rounin> Seveas: Ah!
[04:31] <Rounin> That seems possible
[04:31] <Rounin> Cheers
[04:32] <Seveas> Rounin, on what type of harddisk were you installing Ubuntu?
[04:32] <chrisxp> wtf is ubuntu?
[04:32] <kcburyshaker> lol
[04:32] <cyphase> a Linux distro
[04:32] <kcburyshaker> something that made me uninstall winxp
[04:32] <Echylo> hmm
[04:32] <cyphase> lol kc
[04:32] <Echylo> in our language they say "hello" when they come in a channel
[04:33] <Echylo> not 'wtf is ???"
[04:33] <chrisxp> hello
[04:33] <chrisxp> hello
[04:33] <Seveas> chrisxp, Ubuntu is an african word that means Humanity to Others
[04:33] <Echylo> :)
[04:33] <chrisxp> hello hello , hi, how r u, hello
[04:33] <cyphase> or hi, or hey, or something that starts with an h
[04:33] <cyphase> :)
[04:33] <Heimdall> ubuntu is really not a developper/scientist distribution, ther is not even gnuplot :):):)
[04:33] <chrisxp> hmmm
[04:33] <Seveas> Heimdall, of course there is...
[04:33] <chrisxp> heil hitler!
[04:33] <chrisxp> it starts with h
[04:33] <cyphase> Heimdall, maybe not by default
[04:33] <Echylo> lel
[04:33] <Heimdall> Seveas : not by default
[04:33] <Echylo> that was quick
[04:33] <Seveas> Heimdall, of course not
[04:34] <Heimdall> and worst, no in the cd !!!!
[04:34] <kcburyshaker> seems he was a troublemaker
[04:34] <Seveas> Heimdall, how many people will use it?
[04:34] <Heimdall> Seveas : of course ??
[04:34] <Heimdall> Seveas : I don't know... me everyday :-D
[04:34] <Seveas> Heimdall, it's not used by enough people to be included on the cd
[04:34] <cyphase> Heimdall, it's in universe
[04:34] <Seveas> the CD has limited space...
[04:34] <Heimdall> Seveas : but it could be on the cd
[04:34] <Heimdall> Seveas : well do more cds
[04:35] <cyphase> Heimdall, there should be only one cd
[04:35] <kcburyshaker> lol
[04:35] <Heimdall> Seveas : how many people don't have internet connection ?
[04:35] <Echylo> what is gnuplot btw?
[04:35] <Seveas> Heimdall, no, Ubuntu is and probably always will be one cd
[04:35] <cyphase> Heimdall, how many people need gnuplot
[04:35] <Seveas> Echylo, apt-cache show gnuplot
[04:35] <Seveas> :)
[04:35] <znh> AAAH WIRELESS WORKS !!
[04:35] <kcburyshaker> i think it is a goal of ubuntu to be on one cd   makes things simpler for humanity
[04:35] <Heimdall> Seveas : I think this is a big problem with linux.. if you don't have the internet access... you're lost
[04:35] <dougsk> Heimdall, they do a dvd make a dvd.
[04:35] <mark_> I installed zsnes and dosbox from the Package Manager but where does it put the installed files?
[04:35] <Echylo> oh I see
[04:35] <Seveas> Heimdall, same goes for windows...
[04:35] <cyphase> Heimdall, same with windows
[04:35] <Echylo> that explains the plot :p
[04:36] <cyphase> lol
[04:36] <Seveas> mark_, dpkg -L zsnes
[04:36] <Heimdall> Seveas ? with windows what ?
[04:36] <kcburyshaker> well   one thing for windows   if you dont have internet access   you cant get viruses
[04:36] <mark_> Seveas, do I put that in the terminal?
[04:36] <Echylo> not all software is included with windows
[04:36] <Seveas> Heimdall, how are you going to install software on windows without internet connection?
[04:36] <Heimdall> lol
[04:36] <cyphase> you'll get problems in windows and not even have an internet connection
[04:36] <kcburyshaker> true that too
[04:36] <Echylo> you get even problems looking at it
[04:37] <Heimdall> Seveas : you buy it :p
[04:37] <Seveas> mark_, yes
[04:37] <kcburyshaker> if you blink at the monitor wrong   winblows will crash
[04:37] <mark_> ok
[04:37] <cyphase> Heimdall, then but gnuplot
[04:37] <cyphase> ;)
[04:37] <cyphase> buy*
[04:37] <Heimdall> lol :)
[04:37] <Seveas> Heimdall, so, for linux you replace buy with download in an internetcafe and burn
[04:37] <Heimdall> okay okay okay you win :)
[04:37] <Seveas> costs you money too...
[04:37] <dougsk> Heimdall, I suppose you could buy a set of disks from cheapbytes
[04:37] <mark_> excellent thanks Seveas! :)
[04:37] <Seveas> and GNU software can be ordered on CD from the Free Software Foundation...
[04:38] <Heimdall> Seveas : it is surely less accessible for "base people"
[04:38] <Echylo> and how are you gonna order it?
[04:38] <kcburyshaker> thats GNUrific!
[04:38] <Echylo> without internet?
[04:38] <cyphase> phone
[04:38] <Seveas> Echylo, by writing a letter to the FSF
[04:38] <cyphase> or mail
[04:38] <kcburyshaker> smoke signals
[04:38] <Echylo> wooh
[04:38] <Echylo> writing letters
[04:38] <cyphase> morse code
[04:38] <mark_> its a hell of a lot faster with OpenGL in Ubuntu too and completely fullscreen
[04:38] <Chronos1> ok...looking for a linux/laptop guru...older Dell laptop hangs after the first three language choice screen
[04:39] <Chronos1> don't know linux well enough yet to figure out whats going on next
[04:40] <Seveas> Chronos1, which screen do you mean?
[04:40] <Echylo> install screen? :)
[04:40] <Seveas> in the installer?
[04:40] <Chronos1> after the boot..you get three screens...default is us...english...
[04:41] <Chronos1> there are three screens that you have those choices
[04:41] <Seveas> Chronos1, if this is the install/live CD, try booting with different acpi options
[04:41] <Seveas> like acpi=off
[04:43] <green-> how do you get root file privs/root term in ubuntu shell ... X died and I need root priv to change the xorg.conf
[04:43] <lsuactiafner> btw, nforce4 chipset temperature sensors.. anyone got it workin?
[04:43] <lsuactiafner> 0000:00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation CK804 SMBus (rev a2)
[04:43] <Seveas> green-, use sudo
[04:43] <green-> danke
[04:43] <Seveas> green: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:45] <redlounge> hi. anyone can tell me how to set the screen resolution at booting to 1400x1050?
[04:45] <green-> anyone else have ubuntu on their laptop and have issues w/ X not coming back after a lid close?
[04:45] <lsuactiafner> redlounge : edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:46] <Seveas> redlounge, you mean during bootup or the graphical stuff starting with the login screen?
[04:46] <redlounge> lsuactiafner: during boot process?
[04:46] <redlounge> during boot
[04:46] <Seveas> redlounge, you need to add a framebuffer option to the #kopt line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:46] <redlounge> Seveas: X is ok
[04:47] <Seveas> redlounge, ah ok, well, that doesn't hold for X :)
[04:47] <Seveas> for X it's simply what lsuactiafner said :)
[04:48] <lukus001> I just downlaoded real player and installed it.   When i goto applications>Sound & video>Real player nothing happens
[04:48] <Rounin> Seveas: I dunno, my internal laptop hard disk
[04:48] <redlounge> Seveas: isnt it the option vga=xxx?
[04:48] <green-> anyone have DVDs playing in ubuntu - if so, how? :)
[04:48] <Seveas> Rounin, ah ok that's no fancy stuff, so yeah you got bitten by that bug :)
[04:48] <Seveas> redlounge, yes
[04:48] <Seveas> lukus001, try starting it from the terminal
[04:49] <lukus001> Seveas: how do i do that via terminal?
[04:49] <Demian___> hello
[04:50] <Seveas> lukus001, try to figure out the command to start it
[04:50] <Demian___> does anyone know a working torrent for the linux install cd?
[04:50] <Micksa> remind me, when is breezy due for release?
[04:50] <Echylo> october?
[04:50] <Seveas> in the terminal type real and hit tab twice for tab completion suggestions
[04:50] <Echylo> dunno for sure
[04:50] <Seveas> october
[04:50] <d0nk`> Demian___: check ubuntu.com
[04:50] <Rounin> Seveas: Thanks for the help though! I feel like trying again now... Fedora Core is nice and all, but it's still just a byproduct of a corporation
[04:51] <gabriel82> how can i unistall all the packages that were installed with kubuntu-desktop?
[04:52] <Demian___> d0nk`,  that one doesn't work
[04:52] <lukus001> Seveas: I dont know :s
[04:52] <Demian___> that's why I ask
[04:52] <d0nk`> that torrent?
[04:52] <bethor> hi. How can I leave a process running after logging out of a ssh session?
[04:52] <d0nk`> odd... i downloaded it the other day
[04:52] <MDM> how can I share folders from a windows computer like mapped drives?
[04:53] <d0nk`> samba
[04:53] <XandriX> what does netdev watchdog eth0 transmit times out meen ??
[04:53] <Rounin> bethor: With screen I suppose
[04:53] <lsuactiafner> bethor : screen run_process
[04:53] <resiak> gabriel82: deborphan ?
[04:53] <lsuactiafner> then screen -d
[04:53] <lsuactiafner> and then exit ssh
[04:53] <lukus001> Seveas: i get a bunch of errors or somin running from terminal
[04:54] <bethor> Rounin, lsuactiafner, thanks. I am rtfm :-)
[04:54] <gabriel82> resiak: what's that?
[04:54] <resiak> gabriel82: apt-cache show deborphan
[04:54] <Demian___> is there a working torrent anywhere?
[04:54] <Demian___> and can someone direct me to it :)
[04:54] <Demian___> please
[04:55] <Demian___> it's taking me three hours to download the iso
[04:55] <gabriel82> resiak: how do i use it?
[04:55] <Demian___> and I know it'll go faster with azureus
[04:55] <MDM> how do I enable vsync in the nvidia drivers?
[04:55] <resiak> gabriel82: Install it, then man deborphan
[04:55] <xinud> great work Kubuntu team !! congrats
[04:55] <gabriel82> resiak: thanks
[04:56] <nicolette_> hi
[04:56] <resiak> gabriel82: The manual will tell you more
[04:56] <Seveas> lukus001, can you paste the errors at paste.ubuntulinux.nl please
[04:56] <XandriX> does anyone know what does netdev watchdog eth0 transmit times out meen ??
[04:57] <Seveas> gabriel82, deborphan is quite useless for you
[04:57] <lukus001> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/125
[04:57] <Seveas> gabriel82, try debfoster instead :)
[04:57] <Seveas> lukus001, have you tried installing your own themes/theme engine?
[04:58] <resiak> Seveas: Hmm?
[04:58] <lukus001> Seveas: don't think so...i don't know what that is
[04:58] <Seveas> resiak?
[04:58] <resiak> Seveas: Why is deborphan useless?
[04:58] <Seveas> resiak, deborphan only lists things
[04:59] <Seveas> debfoster is a great tool for uninstaling unneeded stuff
[04:59] <resiak> Seveas: apt-get remove `deborphan` ?
[04:59] <Seveas> lukus001, try: sudo aptitude install gtk2-engines-smooth
[04:59] <Seveas> resiak, eeek
[04:59] <newbie_linux> hello
[04:59] <lsuactiafner> wow my neighbor is hot
[04:59] <Seveas> that'll remove all orphans
[04:59] <Seveas> and not recurse
[04:59] <newbie_linux> is there an easy way where i can reinstall ubuntu?
[04:59] <lsuactiafner> screw linux, i'm going to put effort into meeting her..
[04:59] <znh> lsuactiafner: peeping at your neightbor :P ?
[04:59] <resiak> Seveas: Hmm, true. I use aptitude, so :)
[04:59] <flodine> can i install kubuntu with my ubuntu
[04:59] <Seveas> debfoster lets you choose per orphan whether to keep, uninstall or recursive ly uninstall it
[05:00] <Seveas> resiak, even aptitude cannot handle everything :)
[05:00] <lsuactiafner> znh : sadly no, she came to ask if there was varsity church tonight
[05:00] <ivanox> which is the shortcut to switch between virtual desktops?
[05:00] <newbie_linux> or is there a way where i can put Ubuntu back to the way it was in the beginning?
[05:00] <znh> ivanox: what wm?
[05:00] <lukus001> Seveas: just done that, it installed but realplayer still doesnt work
[05:00] <dantheman64> ivanox, you have to set it in System -> Prefs -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[05:00] <dantheman64> it's near the bottom of the list
[05:00] <Seveas> ivanox, look at system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[05:00] <lsuactiafner> most of the questions here is 'how do i play my favourite pron movie...'
[05:00] <dantheman64> I have Alt+(1-4) set for the defaults
[05:00] <flodine> how do i install KUBUNTU
[05:00] <dantheman64> Seavas ;-)
[05:00] <znh> lsuactiafner: so?
[05:01] <resiak> Seveas: Sure it can.
[05:01] <lsuactiafner> ubuntu should make one comamnd to install mplayer vlc ect and get it done with
[05:01] <Seveas> flodine, put the cd in your pc, boot and follow instructions...
[05:01] <znh> anyways anyone here got the rt2500 working?
[05:01] <lukus001> Seveas: actuall it didnt install anything by the looks but it done something ^
[05:01] <Seveas> resiak, changing dependencies on upgrades sometimes go unnoticed :)
[05:01] <flodine> seveas i already got ubuntu installed
[05:01] <Seveas> lukus001: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats
[05:01] <dantheman64> Hey all... does anyone know how to run Counter-Strike Source in Ubuntu?
[05:01] <Seveas> go there and see whether your problem is mentioned
[05:02] <Seveas> flodine, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[05:02] <resiak> Seveas: Hmm.
[05:02] <znh> dantheman64: steam doesn't work with wine
[05:02] <lukus001> Seveas: ok ill ahve a look there =)
[05:02] <jedipottsy> hey
[05:02] <dantheman64> znh: Thanks. What about Cedega?
[05:02] <znh> dantheman64: didn't try that one yet
[05:02] <jedipottsy> can someone give me a hand, with getting sound working? - how do i get the latest alsa drivers? ie what apt-get command
[05:02] <rc51woody> have a question
[05:03] <flodine> is kubuntu as good as ubuntu
[05:03] <znh> jedipottsy: alsa :)
[05:03] <dantheman64> znh, do you know anyone who got it to work at all?
[05:03] <ivanox> got cedega to work?
[05:03] <Seveas> flodine, it's basically the same distribution, so 'as good as' will merely depend on whether you like KDE or Gnome better
[05:03] <znh> dantheman64: nope.. you may try the non-steam version, but that's only for 1.6 (LAN ONLY)
[05:04] <ivanox> dantheman64, read query
[05:04] <jedipottsy> how do i update alsa drivers?
[05:04] <resiak> dantheman64: It works with Cedega, I hear
[05:05] <jedipottsy> apt-get install alsa?
[05:05] <znh> jedipottsy: that would install it yes
[05:05] <znh> resiak: does it?
[05:06] <resiak> znh: So I hear. That's why I said "It works with Cedega, I hear".
[05:06] <jedipottsy> znh, it says installed
[05:06] <masahiro> is it easy to get kde installed on ubuntu with out downloading kubuntu?
[05:06] <znh> resiak: horay, going to try that then
[05:06] <jedipottsy> znh, and cant be updated
[05:06] <znh> jedipottsy: congrats
[05:06] <znh> jedipottsy: why do you want to upgrade a up2date package?
[05:07] <jedipottsy> znh, but sound still dont work, and i followed the guide on ubuntuguide still dont work
[05:07] <jedipottsy> on FC4 - which sucks btw, i had to update the alsa drivers b4 it would work
[05:08] <green-> fc4 is fine, imho - red hat is just not a desktop distro, out of the box, as far as i see it.. other distros are much better for that
[05:09] <green-> fedora, rather
[05:09] <green-> what are you guys using to play dvds on ubuntu?
[05:09] <jedipottsy> i liked fc3, but the included gcc4 in fc4 makes things a pain
[05:10] <jedipottsy> o ye, how do i enable laptop featues? ie laptop suspend, and battery?
[05:11] <HWolf> jedipottsy, you're in for a rough ride, Ubuntu is converting to gcc4 for the next release
[05:11] <jedipottsy> ino, but hopefully by that time, most of the apps, will be gcc4 compatible - ie wine dont work
[05:12] <Zukero> hello
[05:12] <jedipottsy> hi
[05:13] <green-> jedipottsy: i'm embarking on the same laptop stuff.. when you figure out stuff.. /msg me :) bbl
[05:13] <jedipottsy> green-, sure
[05:13] <lsuactiafner> Read 7.1 of 11 KiB of data, 2 KiB/sec.
[05:13] <Zukero> i'm trying to set up a ftp server to exchange file with friends, i installes vsftpd, but i'm completely lost...
[05:13] <lsuactiafner> rofl
[05:14] <lsuactiafner> Zukero : proftpd is nicer
[05:14] <Zukero> well
[05:14] <Zukero> which one is nicer seems quite a personnal opinion
[05:14] <Zukero> i tried proftpd too
[05:14] <Zukero> and i'm as lost with one or another
[05:14] <lsuactiafner> proftpd will get you laid
[05:15] <Zukero> and
[05:15] <Zukero> will you be able to help me set proftpd up ?
[05:15] <jedipottsy> green-, however im unable to get wireless working on my IPN2200 and i have tried alot, so if u have an incompatible Wirelesscard, then u might not be able to get it working
[05:15] <Zukero> i really don't mind which one to use
[05:15] <Danar> um, i need some help...
[05:15] <lsuactiafner> Zukero : dont have time, eating and back to studyin
[05:15] <Danar> i'm trying to use gparted to resize a partition, and something went wrong
[05:15] <Zukero> ok
[05:15] <lsuactiafner> basically just lookin @ irc
[05:15] <Demian___> hello
[05:16] <Zukero> yeah i know this kind of stuff well :)
[05:16] <Demian___> can I install a new version of hoary over an old warty?
[05:16] <Danar> it said there was an error, that it was trying to act on a busy device
[05:16] <Seveas> Demian___, you can dist-upgrade to hoary
[05:16] <Danar> said it was mounted
[05:16] <Demian___> Seveas, no I can't
[05:16] <kbrooks> why?
[05:16] <Danar> but i checked before that and made sure it wasn't mounted. and even used lsof to make sure nothing was using it
[05:16] <Demian___> Seveas, I wish I could
[05:16] <Zukero> Demian___ , i'm no pro, but seems that apt-upgrade is here to help you update your warty into an hoary
[05:16] <Seveas> Danar, you cannot resize partitions that are mounted, try using parted from a livecd
[05:16] <kbrooks> +
[05:17] <Seveas> Demian___, then you'll have to wipe it clean
[05:17] <Danar> i checked again after the error, and it's still not in use
[05:17] <Danar> Seveas, i am
[05:17] <Seveas> Danar, hmm...
[05:17] <Seveas> check te output of mount (with no arguments)
[05:17] <Danar> i tried again, and same thing
[05:17] <selleckus> do I need to have the cpu frequency meter running in order for ubuntu to scale the frequency?
[05:17] <Danar> and it's still not mounted, and still nothing's using it
[05:17] <Zukero> so anyone here have time to help me set a ftp server ? whatever the daemon, i don't care
[05:18] <Danar> and those partitions no longer show up in /dev
[05:18] <Seveas> Zukero, sudo aptitude install vsftpd
[05:18] <Danar> :(
[05:18] <Zukero> yeah
[05:18] <Seveas> Zukero, and read through /usr/share/doc/vsftpd...
[05:18] <Zukero> i allready have vsftpd
[05:18] <lsuactiafner> selleckus : on amd you need powernowd running
[05:18] <jedipottsy> ne1 know how to get laptop suspend to disk to work?
[05:18] <newbie_linux> hi
[05:18] <lsuactiafner> Zukero : apt-get install proftpd ; edit /etc/proftpd.conf and edit /etc/ftpusers and you are set
[05:18] <Seveas> Danar, if they don't show up in /dev the system doesn't recognize them...
[05:18] <lsuactiafner> all very logical
[05:18] <Danar> Seveas, but gparted still sees them
[05:19] <newbie_linux> when i go to phpmyadmin, i get this message when i try to login: Error
[05:19] <newbie_linux> #2002 - Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[05:19] <selleckus> ahh but if I have a pentium m on laptop it will automatically scle the frequency?
[05:19] <newbie_linux> Any Ideas??
[05:19] <Razor-X> I couldn't sleep well -_-
[05:19] <Danar> i've refreshed a few times in gparted... still shows up there
[05:19] <Razor-X> all night I had 'eterm' in my head
[05:19] <Danar> but the partition isn't resized
[05:19] <lsuactiafner> selleckus : yes it should.. as far as i know
[05:19] <Razor-X> and now i'm here, ready to tackle Eterm again!
[05:19] <lsuactiafner> Razor-X : think xterm
[05:19] <newbie_linux> #2002 - Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[05:19] <newbie_linux> any ideas?
[05:20] <Seveas> newbie_linux, install mysql-server
[05:20] <Danar> trying to resize hdb1, and hdb1 & hdb4 are no longer in /dev
[05:20] <Danar> but gparted sees both
[05:20] <XandriX> when ubuntu is freshly installed whats the default root password ?
[05:20] <newbie_linux> Seveas, i thought it was already installed??
[05:20] <Seveas> XandriX: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:20] <Seveas> there is no root password
[05:20] <XandriX> i cant atm ...
[05:20] <Seveas> XandriX, and please pay attention when installing, the installer has told you that...
[05:21] <newbie_linux> Seveas, i already have the latest version it says
[05:21] <kikkoman> how do i get sound with shockwave player?
[05:21] <Danar> can anyone help?
[05:21] <Seveas> newbie_linux, make sure it's started then..
[05:21] <Danar> i don't want to lose everything...
[05:21] <Rounin> Hm
[05:21] <Danar> there's lots of data at stake :(
[05:21] <newbie_linux> Seveas, can you please tell me how
[05:21] <kestas> kikkoman: you mean the firefox flash plugin?
[05:21] <newbie_linux> i would appreciate it
[05:21] <Seveas> newbie_linux, invoke-rc.d mysql start
[05:22] <newbie_linux> thank u Seveas
[05:22] <kikkoman> yes
[05:22] <kikkoman> it plays the flash but theres no sound at all
[05:22] <Rounin> Hmm Seveas: My Ubuntu CD says "Warty"... Could that have been affected by the initrd bug you mentioned?
[05:22] <Danar> oh, and they showed up in /dev before i tried to resize the partition
[05:22] <newbie_linux> Seveas, I get this message: Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed.  Please take a look at the syslog.
[05:22] <Danar> and i haven't rebooted or anything since
[05:23] <Seveas> kikkoman, sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0  /usr/lib/libesd.so.1
[05:23] <Seveas> newbie_linux, well, look at the syslog then
[05:23] <newbie_linux> how?
[05:23] <Seveas> Rounin, yes
[05:23] <Rounin> Ah!
[05:23] <Rounin> Well, off to linuxiso.org then
[05:23] <sens> Can anyone help me install cadega / cedega / however it's spelt
[05:23] <newbie_linux> Seveas, how do i get to the systemlog
[05:23] <Danar> anyone?
[05:24] <ThunderCracker> hi how long on average does it take for a new kernel to go into the the apt-repository?
[05:24] <Seveas> newbie_linux, less /var/log/mysql.log
[05:24] <kestas> kikkoman: okay
[05:24] <Seveas> ThunderCracker, 2.6.12 will not be available in Hoary
[05:25] <kestas> kikkoman: you need to link /usr/lib/libesdsound.so.[whatever version]
[05:25] <Seveas> Breezy has had 2.6.12 rc6 for quite a while already
[05:25] <kikkoman> yup works now thanks kestas
[05:25] <Danar> uh oh
[05:25] <kestas> to /usr/lib/libesoun-- oh
[05:25] <Danar> dmesg has a bunch of these:
[05:25] <Danar> hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[05:25] <Danar> hdb: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=70722, high=0, low=70722, sector=70722
[05:25] <Danar> ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[05:25] <Danar> end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 70722
[05:25] <Rounin> But it must be possible to get it from Debian's repositories even so?
[05:25] <Rounin> Or is Debian even stricter
[05:25] <Demian___> If I want to upgrade from warty
[05:25] <Seveas> Danar, do not paste in here....
[05:25] <Demian___> I have to update the source list
[05:25] <sens> How do I update through the repositories? If I go there it has loadsof things but what are they? Do I install them?
[05:25] <Danar> it's only a few lines
[05:25] <Seveas> Demian___: One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[05:25] <Demian___> and then do apt--get dist-upgrade
[05:25] <newbie_linux> Seveas, there is nothing there?
[05:25] <Seveas> Danar, even a few lines are a lot when it's busy...
[05:26] <Seveas> newbie_linux, try tail -n 100 /var/log/messages | less
[05:26] <Demian___> Seveas, you rock
[05:26] <newbie_linux> ok
[05:26] <Seveas> :p
[05:26] <Danar> well, does that help anyone help me?
[05:27] <newbie_linux> Seveas, nothing to do with MySQL
[05:27] <Demian___> auw
[05:27] <Seveas> newbie_linux, strange...
[05:27] <newbie_linux> yes, i know
[05:27] <reka> Demian___: you should have given flowers first
[05:27] <Seveas> does invoke-rc.d mysql restart work?
[05:27] <newbie_linux> would you reccomend reinstalling mysql server, Seveas?
[05:28] <Seveas> newbie_linux, first try invoke-rc.d mysql restart :)
[05:28] <newbie_linux> ok
[05:28] <ThunderCracker> Seveas: why's that? it fixes a bug that means my ibook can't sleep...is there any way i can get it with out a dist-upgradE?
[05:28] <selleckus> is there a driver for the intel integrated graphics?
[05:28] <Seveas> ThunderCracker, you can use apt pinning to get the 2.6.12 kernel
[05:28] <kestas> selleckus: yes
[05:28] <newbie_linux> Seveas, it says this:
[05:28] <Seveas> selleckus, search the wiki
[05:28] <newbie_linux> sudo invoke-rc.d mysql restart
[05:28] <newbie_linux> Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld.
[05:28] <newbie_linux> Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed.
[05:28] <newbie_linux>         Please take a look at the syslog.
[05:29] <selleckus> ahh thanks
[05:29] <kestas> newbie_linux: take a look at the syslog then
[05:29] <kestas> newbie_linux: at least go bother #mysql and not us
[05:29] <refuze2looze> selleckus: yes. i810
[05:29] <Seveas> newbie_linux, ok, it's time to sudo aptitude purge mysql-server && sudo aptitude install mysql-server
[05:29] <refuze2looze> selleckus: i use it
[05:29] <Danar> :(
[05:29] <Seveas> kestas, who says it's a mysql problem?
[05:29] <nalioth> ThunderCracker: ibook sleep?
[05:29] <Seveas> might as well be an Ubuntu problem
[05:29] <newbie_linux> Seveas, ok
[05:30] <Seveas> and he looked at syslog already...
[05:30] <kestas> Seveas: sure looks that way to me, does mysql work without setting any configuration options?
[05:30] <dantheman64> heya can the guy helping me before /query me
[05:30] <kestas> Seveas: on freebsd you had to configure it first
[05:30] <dantheman64> I forgot your name, sorry :(
[05:30] <Andlinux21> hi there
[05:30] <kestas> and its probably the healthy thing to configure and read the manual before setting up a database
[05:30] <Seveas> kestas, on ubuntu not, you can login as root without password right after install...
[05:31] <Rounin> Hm, whatn on Earth
[05:31] <Rounin> Ubuntu isn't listed on linuxiso.org... Have they gone daft?
[05:31] <kestas> Seveas: what does that have to do with mysqld not starting though?
[05:31] <Seveas> Rounin, try releases.ubuntu.com
[05:31] <Seveas> or release.ubuntu.com
[05:31] <Rounin> On it :)
[05:31] <Seveas> kestas, maybe something went wrong during install...
[05:32] <Andlinux21> i keep getting the following error
[05:32] <Andlinux21> GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary
[05:32] <Andlinux21> should i take that out of the repository listing?
[05:32] <kestas> not likely.. the error is going to be in syslog isnt it
[05:32] <Seveas> kestas, well, there was no error in syslog...
[05:32] <xxenon> is "noinotify" still needed when starting a 2.6.12 kernel ?
[05:32] <kestas> it did say to look in syslog, no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater
[05:32] <newbie_linux> Seveas, Thank you so much, it works now
[05:32] <kestas> but it said there was an error and to look in syslog
[05:32] <kestas> he didnt even look
[05:32] <newbie_linux> Seveas ROCKS!
[05:32] <Seveas> Andlinux21, try apt-get update
[05:32] <teroedni> hello i have a generic 386 kernel installed
[05:33] <Seveas> Andlinux21, if that doesn't help: wait an hour
[05:33] <Andlinux21> Seveas: ok
[05:33] <scott> On my thinkpad the trackpoint cursor moves slower than the trackpad. anyone know how to speed it up to exactly the same speed as the trackpad?
[05:33] <Seveas> these errors can happen during archive updates
[05:33] <nalioth> Andlinux21: that just means there is no gpg key on your machine for that repo
[05:33] <GNULinuxer> scott, which kernel?
[05:33] <teroedni> in synaptic i see a possible to install linux k7 kernel
[05:34] <teroedni> will that kernel run faster on an Amd machine?
[05:34] <scott> GNULinuxer: linux-686 with hoary
[05:34] <teroedni> and whats is smp?
[05:34] <GNULinuxer> scott, is it 2.6.11 or 2.6.10 ?
[05:34] <kestas> symmetric multii processor
[05:34] <Andlinux21> i will try the apt-get update
[05:34] <Danar> ok, gparted says: "At least one operation was applied to a busy device."
[05:34] <Seveas> teroedni, it might run faster indeed
[05:34] <nalioth> teroedni: dual procoessor (symetric multiprocesser)
[05:34] <Seveas> and -smp is needed when you have a multiprocessor machine
[05:34] <teroedni> ahh
[05:34] <Rounin> Hm... There
[05:34] <Danar> even though lsof & mount say otherwise
[05:34] <refuze2looze> teroedni: on an AMD k7 machine it would give a slight performance increase to use the k7 kernel
[05:34] <Rounin> There's no release that's optimized for i686 though right
[05:34] <Rounin> It's the 386 iso or nothing
[05:35] <Seveas> Rounin, indeed
[05:35] <Danar> anyone know what might cause this?
[05:35] <scott> GNULinuxer: 2.6.10
[05:35] <Seveas> there's no space for multiple kernels on 1 cd
[05:35] <Wimpie> Hi all, being a kde user I would like to remove gnome completely and reinstall gnome libs when needed.
[05:35] <Wimpie> What is the easiest way to do this ?
[05:35] <Seveas> Wimpie, use debfoster to remove it
[05:35] <scott> Wimpie: install kubuntu
[05:35] <teroedni> so the i just remove the generic and install k7 and all should work next time i boot?
[05:35] <refuze2looze> Danar: try unmounting the device first
[05:35] <Danar> refuze2looze, it's not mounted
[05:35] <Rounin> Seveas: Well, at least that proves that 386 is still a decent instruction set :D
[05:36] <Wimpie> I did install kubuntu but it installs on top of unbuntu and leaves gnome apps
[05:36] <refuze2looze> Danar, strange.. i think that happened to me before too actually
[05:36] <Seveas> Rounin, ROFL!!!!
[05:36] <Danar> :(
[05:36] <Seveas> Rounin, 386 and co are terrible instruction sets
[05:36] <Rounin> They've got memory proteciton haven't they :)
[05:36] <Danar> there's ~200Gb at stake here, and no one's helping
[05:36] <teroedni> i can change the kernel in synaptic without reinstall Ubuntu?
[05:36] <refuze2looze> Danar, did you try using gparted with the Live CD?
[05:36] <Rounin> Imagine like... Z80Linux
[05:36] <Seveas> why else would modern processors devote a third of their power into translating 386 opcodes into simpler instructions...
[05:36] <kikkoman> im having trouble with the mplayer plugin..it hangs on buffering part =/
[05:36] <Danar> refuze2looze, i am
[05:36] <GNULinuxer> scott, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3993.html
[05:36] <scott> GNULinuxer: why?
[05:37] <teroedni> please
[05:37] <Rounin> Hmm Seveas... That is pretty terrible
[05:37] <scott> GNULinuxer, scratch that, I'll check out the url, thanks
[05:37] <Rounin> And here Apple's changing to Intel nonetheless
[05:37] <refuze2looze> teroedni: yes you can.. the new kernel will be in use once you restart
[05:37] <Seveas> kikkoman, set ao=esd in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[05:37] <GNULinuxer> scott, the 2.6.11 has diff problem
[05:37] <teroedni> ahh thanks
[05:37] <Seveas> Rounin, intel has other architectures too :)
[05:38] <Danar> i don't have ubuntu installed yet. i'm working on that. i'm on the livecd trying to resize a partition, but i think i'm about to lose everything :(
[05:38] <Danar> (or already have)
[05:38] <teroedni> then i try THanks:)
[05:38] <refuze2looze> Danar, i think maybe it's because the live cd is using your swap.. i'm not really sure
[05:38] <refuze2looze> Danar, just back everything up and do a clean reformat
[05:39] <Danar> it is, but there's a seperate partition for that...
[05:39] <Danar> refuze2looze, how can i back it up when 1- it's 200Gb, and 2- those partitions no longer show up in /dev
[05:39] <Danar> ?
[05:39] <wouterl> in the warty, is gcc installed by default? because the command gcc doesn't work (command not found)
[05:39] <refuze2looze> Danar, it says "busy device" suggesting that the whole drive has to be not in use
[05:40] <Seveas> wouterl, it's not installed by default
[05:40] <Seveas> but available on the CD and from the net
[05:40] <refuze2looze> wouterl: no, install build-essentials with synaptic
[05:40] <Seveas> sudo aptitude install build-essential
[05:40] <wouterl> ok tnx
[05:40] <Danar> how am i supposed to prevent it from using the swap partition?
[05:40] <Seveas> the livecd will not automatically use your swap afaik
[05:41] <Danar> it did
[05:41] <Danar> and is
[05:41] <refuze2looze> yeah it does
[05:41] <Seveas> oh
[05:41] <Seveas> ok
[05:41] <Seveas> Nice feature :)
[05:41] <Danar> :(
[05:41] <refuze2looze> Danar: i think maybe you can try using slack-live
[05:42] <refuze2looze> Danar: i mean slax
[05:42] <Rounin> Seveas: That new 64-bit stuff that they copied from AMD, what kind of instruction set does that use though?
[05:42] <Danar> if i lose 200Gb because of this (again) i'll be pissed >:(
[05:42] <Seveas> booting with the noswap option might help, but i'm not sure...
[05:42] <Danar> if i reboot in this condition, will i lose data?
[05:42] <Seveas> Rounin, intel did not copy their 64bit stuff from amd...
[05:42] <Seveas> neither did amd from intel
[05:42] <Seveas> and they use completely new instruction sets
[05:43] <Seveas> Rounin, but that's way too off-topic here, use google to find the specs :)
[05:43] <Danar> [...] ?
[05:43] <Rounin> Aha
[05:44] <Seveas> Danar, you can use umount to unmount the swap partition. Then it's no longer 'in use'
[05:44] <refuze2looze> Seveas: how will he be able to install gparted? onto RAM?
[05:44] <Andlinux21> all my xterm windows wont open
[05:44] <Seveas> refuze2looze, hmm..
[05:44] <Danar> would that be /tmp?
[05:44] <Andlinux21> they just crash
[05:45] <refuze2looze> i think SLAX can install programs onto RAM, i remember reading something like that
[05:45] <scott> GNULinuxer: I don't see in that article how to speed up the trackpoint
[05:45] <Seveas> refuze2looze, ubuntu does that too
[05:45] <refuze2looze> oh
[05:45] <Danar> umount: /tmp: device is busy
[05:45] <Seveas> but you are limited by your ram size
[05:45] <Seveas> and i don't know how big gparted will be :)
[05:45] <DunkMaster> hey yo yo yoo
[05:46] <refuze2looze> Danar, try rebooting with noswap i guess.. it's alreayd in use so i don't see how you can unmount it now
[05:46] <refuze2looze> Danar, you didn't save any partition changes or anyhting like that did you?
[05:46] <teroedni> works like a charm thanks guys
[05:46] <teroedni> and girls
[05:46] <DunkMaster> what are MSN protocol clients exept GAIM, aMSN and ayttm avaliable for Ubuntu?
[05:47] <Danar> refuze2looze, yes!
[05:47] <Seveas> DunkMaster, bitlbee
[05:47] <kikkoman> is there a way to make the video bigger when watching trailers from "apple.com"?
[05:47] <refuze2looze> DunkMaster, GAIM and aMSN are the best ones
[05:47] <Danar> that's when it gave the error
[05:47] <FirstLite> Danar: try "swapoff -a"
[05:47] <Seveas> DunkMaster, or Kopete
[05:47] <DunkMaster> ty Seveas, Refuze2looze
[05:47] <Danar> FirstLite, hey, thx!
[05:48] <refuze2looze> Danar, but i don't think it changed anything cause it returned an error
[05:48] <scott> anyone using IMMS with BMP?
[05:48] <FirstLite> Danar: no problem
[05:48] <Danar> hrm, i tried again, and it still gave an error, though this time it didn't say the device was busy
[05:48] <DunkMaster> oh
[05:48] <DunkMaster> i forgot
[05:49] <Danar> doesn't say what the error is though :(
[05:49] <Danar> "Error while resizing/moving /dev/hdb1"
[05:49] <narch> can anyone help me with hotplug? i'm trying to add a v4tunnel device to my network interfaces, but hotplug refuses to bring the interface up because it says the kernel has no INET6 support, ipv6 is listed in /etc/modules, and ipv6 is available after the system is started...
[05:49] <rc51woody> having trouble installing java to firefox... followed the how-to but did not succeed...
[05:49] <Danar> "Be aware that the failure to apply this operation could affect other operations on the list."
[05:49] <Danar> (there's nothing else on the list)
[05:50] <nalioth> rc51woody: WHICH howto did you follow?
[05:50] <DunkMaster> Ayttm gave me this: Couldnt conenct to MSN HTTPS server (bad cookies)
[05:50] <Danar> DunkMaster, might try gaim
[05:50] <DunkMaster> im using gaim
[05:50] <DunkMaster> ayttm is just fast
[05:50] <rc51woody> nalioth: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[05:50] <DunkMaster> and its slow machine
[05:50] <Danar> so both give the error?
[05:51] <DunkMaster> no
[05:51] <DunkMaster> only ayttm
[05:51] <Danar> then..
[05:51] <nalioth> rc51woody: now that you've see it, the ubuntuguide lots of times, does not
[05:51] <Danar> at least you can use gaim then
[05:51] <rc51woody> dang't
[05:51] <Danar> DunkMaster, look through the settings...
[05:51] <DunkMaster> bah :)
[05:51] <DunkMaster> i did
[05:51] <Danar> DunkMaster, maybe compare them to gaim's settings
[05:51] <Seveas> rc51woody, ubuntuguide is bad
[05:52] <Seveas> rc51woody: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]
[05:52] <Danar> look for something different
[05:52] <DunkMaster> settings are exactly the same as in gaim
[05:52] <rc51woody> nalioth: your suggestion for the best source
[05:52] <nalioth> rc51woody: here ya go https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingJavaSupport
[05:52] <Danar> google the error
[05:52] <DunkMaster> okay
[05:52] <DunkMaster> will try
[05:52] <DunkMaster> thanx
[05:52] <kikkoman> when view trailers from "apple.com" site..the plugins great but part of the movie is cut off o_O
[05:53] <narch> can anyone help me with hotplug? i'm trying to add a v4tunnel device to my network interfaces, but hotplug refuses to bring the interface up because it says the kernel has no INET6 support, ipv6 is listed in /etc/modules, and ipv6 is available after the system is started...
[05:54] <Danar> so what am i supposed to do about a generic, unspecified error that might cause me to lose tons of data??
[05:54] <nalioth> narch: give it a few minutes tween the same question. if anyone in here knows about that subject, they will answer
[05:54] <refuze2looze> Danar, that's a tough one =p
[05:54] <XandriX>  aaa ramorama
[05:54] <Danar> anything like gparted which can cause data loss ought to be a little more specific when giving errors!
[05:54] <Seveas> rc51woody, please ask first before sending private messages..
[05:55] <arnonym> i've built a 2.6.12 kernel with dpkg and now i have the problem that all IDE drivers are loaded permanently and i can't mount local filesystems other than root
[05:55] <refuze2looze> Danar, you really should create more than 1 partition where you can backup data and only format the / partition
[05:55] <Danar> refuze2looze, i'm working on that...
[05:56] <refuze2looze> Danar, hopefully it's not too late hehe
[05:56] <rc51woody> seveas: can i private you
[05:56] <Danar> but i have to shrink this partition, so i can expand another one, so i can move more data from this partition onto it
[05:56] <Danar> so i can repeat, and eventually delete this partition
[05:57] <nalioth> rc51woody: if you ask your ? in chan, more people can learn from teh answer(s)
[05:57] <refuze2looze> Danar, i would try restarting using noswap like Seveas suggested
[05:57] <Danar> i'm trying to move around ~200Gb total here....
[05:57] <Danar> refuze2looze, i already turned it off, remember?
[05:57] <Heaviette> "
[05:58] <refuze2looze> Danar, yeah while it's already booted up.. sometimes things that make no sense work
[05:58] <FirstLite> Danar: I missed the beginning of the conversation.  Is /dev/hdb1 an NTFS partition?  Did you defrag it before trying to resize?
[05:58] <Danar> no
[05:58] <XandriX> so will anyone tell me once that my ubuntu is freashly installed how i change the root password and whats the default
[05:58] <Danar> hdb1 is fat32
[05:58] <refuze2looze> Danar, ohh.. you're trying to resize a fat32 partition??
[05:58] <bob2> XandriX: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:58] <Seveas> XandriX, do you ever READ what people say?
[05:58] <refuze2looze> Danar, you have to defrag it
[05:58] <nalioth> XandriX: there is no root account
[05:58] <Danar> i'm trying to move the data to hdb4, which is ext2
[05:58] <bob2> XandriX: that is in the FAQ, of course
[05:58] <Seveas> i've told you that already...
[05:58] <nalioth> XandriX: use "sudo" for all your power needs
[05:59] <BrutusUnix> what is the divx decoder called?
[05:59] <Danar> well that helps
[05:59] <Danar> is there a linux defrag app?
[05:59] <XandriX> my mouseis dead atm i cant rly open a browser
[05:59] <bob2> Danar: no
[05:59] <bob2> XandriX: sure you can
[05:59] <XandriX> nalioth, u need the root password to sudo lol
[05:59] <Danar> then how am i supposed to defrag it?
[05:59] <Seveas> XandriX, READ that wikipage...
[05:59] <scott> I remember seeing a cool gnome launcher program but I can't remember its name.. anyone know of one?
[05:59] <bob2> XandriX: alt-f2 mozilla-firefox <enter> ctrl-l http://... <enter>
[05:59] <Seveas> you don't need a root password...
[05:59] <refuze2looze> XandriX, the root password is your account password
[05:59] <Danar> i don't have windows anymore
[06:00] <bob2> XandriX: good bye!
[06:00] <Seveas> XandriX, yes, it is if you keep asking the same questions...
[06:00] <Danar> bob2, just to be clear, i mean a linux app for defragging fat32...
[06:00] <bob2> XandriX: you're right, it would be way more efficient for us to paste webpages in here than for you to read it yourself
[06:00] <Seveas> which can all be answered by the same wikipage...
[06:00] <bob2> Danar: there isn't one that I know of
[06:00] <Danar> :(
[06:00] <XandriX> omfg
[06:00] <XandriX> i get better suport in the redhat channel eeep
[06:00] <bob2> XandriX: you were given the correct answer 5 times, I'm sorry if that isn't good enough for you
[06:01] <nalioth> XandriX: open a terminal and type "man sudo"
[06:01] <BrutusUnix> Think I'm going back to slackware also
[06:01] <XandriX> trfm is nto a correct awnser
[06:01] <bob2> XandriX: in addition to this being in the FAQ, on the front page of the wiki, and being explained in the installer
[06:01] <Seveas> XandriX, if you don't care to be a bit cooperative, why do you expect help..?
[06:01] <refuze2looze> XandriX, before you come asking questions here you should always check the ubuntu wiki, the ubuntu forums, google. then you can come ask in here
[06:01] <bob2> XandriX: you didn't get a "rtfm", stop whinging
[06:01] <bob2> XandriX: you got told the exact URL for the answer you asked for
[06:01] <Zunino> Could anyone help me get my language and keyboard layout settings back on the KDE's Control Center (already tried at #kubuntu, but none could help)
[06:02] <Zunino> At the moment the list of available languages is empty!
[06:02] <bob2> Zunino: the options don't exist in kcontrol anymore at all?
[06:02] <avinoam> I am using ubuntu on a dell inspiron laptop, and i think that power management is causing the computer to drop the cable connection after a while. how do i fix this?
[06:02] <bob2> Zunino: did they used to be there?
[06:02] <Zunino> No, they are gone.
[06:02] <Zunino> Yes
[06:02] <Zunino> And
[06:02] <Seveas> avinoam, have you tried booting with acpi=off?
[06:02] <bob2> Zunino: what have you changed since they were there?
[06:02] <Danar> you sure i have to defrag fat32 before resizing it?
[06:02] <DunkMaster> Danar: google didnt help
[06:02] <DunkMaster> :(
[06:02] <Danar> :/
[06:02] <Zunino> The only thing I have done is trying to install the newest ATI driver.
[06:02] <avinoam> seveas what is acpi? and how do i set that?
[06:02] <bob2> avinoam: I'd be fairly surprised if power management caused that
[06:03] <Zunino> After that, I ran fglrxconfig
[06:03] <Danar> DunkMaster, does it save your account info?
[06:03] <DunkMaster> yes
[06:03] <Danar> DunkMaster, you could try deleting & recreating it...
[06:03] <Zunino> And since then I havent been able to type latin characters with my US-layout keb
[06:03] <DunkMaster> okay
[06:03] <avinoam> bob2 it can't cause ethernet card to shut off on a laptop?
[06:03] <DunkMaster> ayttm worked on DamnSmallLinux last time i used it
[06:03] <refuze2looze> Danar, yeah it needs to be defragged
[06:03] <Seveas> avinoam, when booting, hit escape to cancel the timeout, go to the line of the kernel you want to boot, hit e to edit the line and add acpi=off to that line
[06:03] <jedipottsy> ffs this takes the pi$$
[06:03] <bob2> avinoam: not that I know of
[06:03] <jedipottsy> is there no auto detect audio hardware for Ubuntu?
[06:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how to install a tar.gz file?
[06:04] <bob2> jedipottsy: of course there is
[06:04] <avinoam> seveas can't i add that to my startup script?
[06:04] <skaller> anyone here know anything about libgal?
[06:04] <bob2> jedipottsy: perhaps your card is special and isn't detected
[06:04] <Zunino> I will now try running fglrxconfig again, but I am not sure that could affect the options available from the drop down list on the control center.
[06:04] <Seveas> avinoam, of course you can
[06:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> or should i get wine from synaptic?
[06:04] <Danar> DunkMaster, OTOH, another possibility is MS changed the protocol again, and gaim is updated, but it's not...
[06:04] <avinoam> seveas how? and what is acpi before i kill it?
[06:04] <Seveas> add it to the kernel lines in menu.lst :)
[06:04] <jedipottsy> its an ATI IPX ac97
[06:04] <bob2> skaller: what do you want to know about it?
[06:04] <FirstLite> Danar: yeah, I'm pretty sure you do.  Although fat32 is (iirc) supported under Linux too, so maybe you don't need to touch it at all?
[06:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and wine tools as well
[06:04] <skaller> who the maintainer is?
[06:04] <reka> Zunino: sounds like fglrxconfig stuffed up your xorg.conf file
[06:04] <Seveas> avinoam, acpi is power management stuff
[06:04] <Danar> FirstLite, yeah, it's supported, but i want to resize it
[06:04] <bob2> skaller: in ubuntu?
[06:04] <avinoam> i see
[06:04] <refuze2looze> Danar, you can try this http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/\
[06:05] <jedipottsy> ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) - straight from lspci
[06:05] <skaller> yeah, i have libgal2.4 but the -dev package for it says 2.6
[06:05] <Zunino> Yeah, thats what I think too
[06:05] <avinoam> where is my boot script?
[06:05] <Seveas> avinoam, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:05] <jedipottsy> but it dont work
[06:05] <DunkMaster> Danar: possible
[06:05] <Zunino> Let me try going through it again.
[06:05] <avinoam> seveas i am on lilo i think
[06:05] <bob2> skaller: how is that a problem?
[06:05] <refuze2looze> gotta run
[06:05] <Filo_> are there italian people ?
[06:05] <reka> Zunino: dd you make a backup?
[06:05] <Seveas> avinoam, ah, i don't know about lilo, sorry
[06:05] <bob2> Filo_: #ubuntu-it
[06:05] <Seveas> Filo_, #ubuntu-it
[06:06] <skaller> autoconf scripts checking with pkg-config don't find the installed library
[06:06] <avinoam> isn't the default lilo?
[06:06] <Zunino> Good question :)
[06:06] <Danar> refuze2looze, :/ is there anything that doesn't involve rebooting (or downloading more livecd isos)?
[06:06] <Seveas> avinoam, no
[06:06] <bob2> skaller: you're using breezy?
[06:06] <skaller> yeah
[06:06] <skaller> trying to
[06:06] <Zunino> I will be back
[06:06] <reka> Zunino: check the directory.  it may have made one automatically
[06:06] <Zunino> Thanks for the help so far
[06:06] <Danar> DunkMaster, make sure you're using the latest version
[06:06] <Zunino> Right. Thanks.
[06:06] <jedipottsy> lol samba works fine tho :D
[06:06] <bob2> Filo_: please don't /msg people
[06:06] <avinoam> seveas does GDE have a GUI power management setting area?
[06:06] <DunkMaster> i am using the latest
[06:06] <Danar> DunkMaster, which might not be in the repository...
[06:07] <Danar> so check their page
[06:07] <DunkMaster> okay, i will
[06:07] <skaller> some of breezy works fine .. but not evolution so I'm trying to build from source
[06:07] <skaller> cant do much without email :)
[06:07] <bob2> I assume you filed a bug?
[06:08] <skaller> how?
[06:08] <avinoam> seveas where shall i put the line?
[06:08] <Seveas> avinoam, add it to the line that begins with the word kernel
[06:08] <bob2> skaller: http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/
[06:09] <skaller> bit tricky doing anything until enough of the base system works .. i could use mozilla mail client .. but don't ask my to revert to mailx :)
[06:09] <Danar> how come ext3 doesn't need defragging?
[06:09] <bob2> Danar: because it places files carefully on disk to begin with
[06:10] <nalioth> Danar: ext2, -3 and reiserfs 'defrag' on the fly
[06:10] <Danar> nalioth, uh, there's an ext2 defrag utility...
[06:10] <DunkMaster> hmmm
[06:10] <bob2> I'm 99% certain that's not true.
[06:10] <DunkMaster> looks like i do have latest version
[06:10] <narch> danar, it hasn't been updated in years tho, if its the util i'm thinking of
[06:10] <avinoam> seveas but i think i need acpi for some things... on my laptop.... can't i play with acpi?
[06:10] <nalioth> Danar: where did you get it? and what is it written for?
[06:11] <narch> danar, it used to be necessary, i remember having ext2 filesystems that were 20+% fragmented, but that was a long time ago
[06:11] <Danar> nalioth, i just searched 'defrag' in synaptic, and there it was
[06:11] <nalioth> and some fine soul has written a 'defrag' for linux to use on fragmented torrent files
[06:11] <Seveas> avinoam, well, you said you sispected acpi caused the problem, so the first step is running without acpi to see if it happens without acpi too
[06:11] <_kevin> Why can't i view videos online.. Being streamed... Like i goto MTV and try to view a music video and the thingy would pop up but i see no video
[06:11] <virtuald> when using bittorrent and not preallocating space for the files, doesn't the files get very fragmented? is there som way to check?
[06:11] <avinoam> seveas, and if that is the problem, what do i do?
[06:12] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > hi
[06:12] <_kevin> Firefox doesn't play it
[06:12] <Seveas> avinoam, then you can google for a more specific solution ;)
[06:12] <LinuxJones> Tallia1[UbuntU] , welcome
[06:12] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > today i have a VERY BIG problem
[06:12] <avinoam> seveas ok
[06:12] <narch> virtual, the easy way to defrag them, is to just cp them and delete the original
[06:12] <avinoam> i shall try
[06:12] <nalioth> virtuald: sourceforge has those torrent defrag tools, if you care to go there and check
[06:12] <virtuald> ok
[06:12] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > kernel panic
[06:12] <virtuald> thanks
[06:12] <DunkMaster> what does gnome meeting do?
[06:12] <bob2> Tallia1[UbuntU] : please don't tell us you compiled your own kernel
[06:12] <bob2> DunkMaster: video conferencing
[06:12] <LinuxJones> Tallia1[UbuntU] , you compile your own kernel ?
[06:12] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > no
[06:13] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i didn't
[06:13] <DunkMaster> ok Bob2
[06:13] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > it's the original kernel..
[06:13] <Danar> narch, doesn't work when you don't have enough room
[06:13] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > http://spaces.msn.com/members/tallia1/PersonalSpace.aspx?_c01_photoalbum=showdefault&_c=photoalbum
[06:13] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > at this page you can see my problem.. (third photo)
[06:13] <_kevin> I can hear sounds live streams but no video
[06:13] <_kevin> what gives
[06:13] <_kevin> it's a real media stream
[06:14] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > what can i do in order to fix it?
[06:14] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i'm getting crazy...
[06:14] <LinuxJones> _kevin, what format is the server streaming ?
[06:14] <_kevin> rm
[06:14] <_kevin> i think
[06:14] <narch> anyway, iirc, e2info will display the fragmentation of a filesystem
[06:14] <Seveas> Tallia1[UbuntU] , have you been editing /boot/grub/menu.list manually?
[06:14] <LinuxJones> _kevin, you will need realplayer to view that
[06:14] <Danar> _kevin, try http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[06:15] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > nope.. i installed webmin grub module..
[06:15] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > this is the only thing that i did lately
[06:15] <_kevin> I have the codec alreadt
[06:15] <bob2> right, so that would be it
[06:15] <_kevin> already*
[06:15] <_kevin> and the real player is broken
[06:15] <Seveas> Tallia1[UbuntU] , have you been editing the grub config with it?
[06:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone use dosbox?
[06:15] <_kevin> from the thing on the guide
[06:15] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i only changed a couple of name...
[06:15] <Danar> well, i can't defrag hdb1 (fat32) or hdb4 (ext2) anyway, cause they no longer show in /dev :(
[06:15] <Seveas> _kevin, the ubuntuguide.org os broken :)
[06:15] <_kevin> i tried before it downloads and installs but it never opens up
[06:16] <Seveas> Tallia1[UbuntU] , i bet you messed up there...
[06:16] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > but i went on the grub channel and they told me that all was ok in the config file
[06:16] <sig> anyone know where to get a version of "dvdstyler" for ubuntu ?
[06:16] <Seveas> Tallia1[UbuntU] , try booting with a livecd and putting the grub config on a pastebin
[06:16] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > it seems that there's a file system error..
[06:16] <_kevin> Seveas I don't understand what you just said
[06:16] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > but by explore2fs in windows i can acecss the root partiiton correctly
[06:16] <narch> sig, its on either marillat or rareware's respository
[06:16] <Seveas> _kevin: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats
[06:17] <Seveas> go to that site..
[06:17] <avinoam> seveas i have restarted, but now i can't see how much battery is left, which is unfortunate
[06:17] <unreal> would anyone here have a clue why my wireless keyboard works, and the wireless mouse doesn't? (they both use the same USB receiver, and I know the mouse works after doing cat /dev/input/mouse1 (/dev/psaux appears to be identical to that too)
[06:17] <DunkMaster> thank you for your help
[06:17] <DunkMaster> bye
[06:17] <DunkMaster> !
[06:17] <skaller> oh poop, need kerberos 4 and have 5 ;(
[06:17] <ubotu> DunkMaster: Are you smoking crack?
[06:17] <avinoam> and by the way, i  found a bug in xine
[06:17] <DunkMaster> me?
[06:17] <DunkMaster> no
[06:17] <DunkMaster> why should i?
[06:17] <sig> narch: marillat's?
[06:17] <reka> lol
[06:17] <Seveas> Tallia1[UbuntU] , good enough, paste your menu.list on a pastebin please :)
[06:17] <narch> sig, yeah
[06:17] <sig> what is the full path so I can add it to my repository
[06:17] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > btw i'll re-install grub.. but i think that the problem is the file system..
[06:17] <narch> sig,  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
[06:17] <DunkMaster> okay, byes
[06:17] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > is there a way to fix the file system?
[06:18] <avinoam> How do i write a script to run my cable modem logon script?
[06:18] <narch> sig, or it might be on : deb http://www.rarewares.org/debian/packages/unstable ./
[06:18] <Seveas> narch, marillat should not be used on hoary...
[06:18] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > Seveas: ok
[06:18] <narch> sig, be careful what you grab from those repositories tho
[06:18] <Andlinux21> ubotu: lol
[06:18] <ubotu> Andlinux21: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[06:18] <xvlun> Tallia1[UbuntU] , fsck.ext3 if you use it