[10:16] <willcooke> Hi doc team.  I have received the new default desktop wallpaper from Design
[10:16] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-wallpapers/+bug/1497177
[10:16] <willcooke> I think I might need to get an exception from you in order to upload it.  Can you tell me how I do that?
[10:16] <willcooke> rather, how I request that


[05:22] <lherrera> Uhm... guys... sandbox environment is down... any news? https://qastaging.launchpad.net
[09:13] <pipedream> Why is there no Packages file here? Index of /aims/aims-desktop/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64
[09:13] <pipedream> http://haetae.canonical.com/aims/aims-desktop/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/
[09:40] <wgrant> pipedream: Only compressed indexes are provided.
[09:41] <pipedream> There were always packages files, no? Our debmirror now started failing on this, with this PPA, not others which still have a Packages file uncompressed
[09:41] <pipedream> is this a new development?
[09:41] <wgrant> Ubuntu and Debian's official archives have been like this for perhaps a decade. PPAs only dropped the uncompressed variants recently.
[09:42] <wgrant> Did you somehow configure debmirror to only use the uncompressed ones?
[09:43] <pipedream> will check
[10:23] <cjwatson> Also, though it doesn't make a difference for this, don't use http://haetae.canonical.com/, that's an implementation detail (and I'm a little surprised it works).  Use http://ppa.launchpad.net/
[11:04] <pipedream> cjwatson: our proxy was caching the Release file, so debmirror still thought there was a Packages file to download.
[11:04] <pipedream> cjwatson: we hijack ppa.launchpad.net dns on campus so we can run debmirror and redirect people to local cache
[11:04] <pipedream> then the debmirror uses haetae (since that hasn't changed in forever)
[11:08] <cjwatson> ah, I see (where forever = 2012, but OK)
[11:08] <cjwatson> pipedream: still, the uncompressed Packages is expected to still be in the Release file
[11:08] <cjwatson> pipedream: apt uses that as a sanity check after decompression
[11:09] <cjwatson> pipedream: what version of debmirror are you using?
[11:10] <cjwatson> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=375381 would suggest that this can be caused by leftover cruft in .temp sometimes
[11:44] <pipedream> 1:2.16ubuntu1
[11:45] <pipedream> 42% /srv
[11:50] <cjwatson> I wasn't specifically asserting that your disk was full; any debmirror failure that leaves it in a state with weird cruft in .temp could have this kind of effect.
[11:52] <pipedream> yes, the real reason was a corrupted cached Releases file. I think it mentioned only Packages not Packages.gz. That seems to have fixed itself now.
[20:05] <Faux> Is the owner of popcon.ubuntu.com here, or is that a different service?  It's failing to upload reports for me with: File "/srv/popcon.ubuntu.com/www/popcon-submit.cgi", line 30, in <module>     mkdirs(hashDir,0755)    NameError: name 'hashDir' is not defined
[20:19] <qengho> Is building a snap supposed to work on launchpad? I tried my first. Fails on unknown-command-assemble.
[20:19] <qengho> I know this is bleeding edge and I should expect blood.
[20:58] <wgrant> qengho: it's complicated due to all the snapcraft compatibility breaks.
[20:58] <wgrant> qengho: I think we need to update it for some more recent snapcraft changes.
[20:58] <cjwatson> Faux: Not us, I'm afraid.  I don't remember who runs that.  #canonical-sysadmin might have some way to figure that out.
[20:59] <cjwatson> wgrant: I made some suggestions about that in a recent snappy-internal thread and apparently you had agreed a plan with Sergio?
[20:59] <Faux> Okay.  I might just bug-report the popcon package and let them figure it out.  Cheers.
[21:00] <wgrant> cjwatson: Ish.
[21:00] <wgrant> But I see there's another incompatible change in the pipeline this morning.
[21:00] <wgrant> So I might wait.
[21:02] <cjwatson> My suggestion was to make bare "snapcraft" without args work again, and then that would be usable with both 1.x and current 2.x.
[22:15] <ricotz> hello, please take a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/286299


[21:34] <pcsc50> I need help to configure Epson Thermal Printer T88IV.. I going crazy. Please help me. It works with EpsonJavaPos
[21:35] <DasEI> sixofour:  root (hd1,0)
[21:35] <sixofour> ok..
[21:36] <DasEI> you have two disks there ?
[21:36] <sixofour> two hard drives yes
[21:36] <sixofour> one is unallocated
[21:36] <DasEI> the other containing windows ?
[21:36] <pcsc50> I need help to configure Epson Thermal Printer T88IV.. I going crazy. Please help me. It works with EpsonJavaPos
[21:36] <DasEI> a, I see
[21:36] <sixofour> i don't have windows at all
[21:36] <sixofour> i installed kubuntu to an empty drive
[21:36] <DasEI> sixofour:  setup (hd1)
[21:37] <sixofour> it successed in what ever it did
[21:37] <DasEI> sixofour:  quit
[21:37] <sixofour> ok
[21:37] <DasEI> sixofour:  make sure your bios is set to boot from sdb;
[21:37] <sixofour> lol
[21:38] <DasEI> sixofour: see yah hopefully : sudo reboot
[21:38] <sixofour> how?
[21:38] <sixofour> just type sudo reboot after quit?
[21:38] <DasEI> yes, but then you get logged off
[21:38] <sixofour> what about that bios stuff?
[21:38] <sixofour> i don't know how to do all that
[21:39] <DasEI> F2 or ESC mostly to get in pc's bios, you can alter the boot-sequenz there
[21:39] <sixofour> ???
[21:39] <DasEI> just try without cd after reboot or come back
[21:40] <DasEI> thebe ?
[21:40] <draik_> chris-rc1: Would you know what is causing the freeze after working so smoothly?
[21:41] <pcsc50> I need help to configure Epson Thermal Printer T88IV.. I going crazy. Please help me. It works with EpsonJavaPos
[21:42] <ibuffy> i don't want to download ubuntu-graphics, but i do want to see what files are included in the package. how can i do taht?
[21:42] <ibuffy> ah, packages.ubuntu.com
[21:42] <ibuffy> can apt-get list the files?
[21:43] <DasEI> or synaptic
[21:43] <thebe> "find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd". I did not understand 'uname -r ' in this case! Does it stand for something
[21:43] <DasEI> ibuffy: apt-cache search | grep <expression>
[21:43] <thebe> or I have to type the same 'uname -r'??
[21:44] <DasEI> thebe: just type uname -r without quotes in terminal
[21:44] <ibuffy> DasEI: i'm just wanting to browse, i wouldn't know what to grep for. wanting to get a few packages, but i can't remember their names, so grep wouldn't come in handy
[21:44] <DasEI> synaptic is handy then
[21:45] <DasEI> ibuffy: you can search both there, filenames and descriptions
[21:45] <thebe> thebe@Voracious:~$ find /lib/modules/unamr -r | grep snd
[21:45] <thebe> find: unknown predicate `-r'
[21:45] <thebe> thebe@Voracious:~$
[21:45] <thebe> this is displayed then
[21:45] <ibuffy> man... i can't wait until the new package manager arrives
[21:45] <ibuffy> adept is so confusing compared to synaptic
[21:46] <DasEI> thebe : uname -r  to see what it does,  quotes for the whole cmd
[21:46] <ibuffy> package manager or updater, it's confusing. it should be the same
[21:46] <DasEI> dpkg, lol
[21:46] <DasEI> ...
[21:46] <draik_> I have installed the nVidia driver through EnvyNG and that is not resolving the issue. my desktop is still freezing when I use a video driver
[21:46] <ubuntu__> totem has  a search plugin    n it plays it right in  totem
[21:46] <ibuffy> anyway... adept package manager doesn't show ubuntustudio
[21:47] <ibuffy> neither does the updater
[21:47] <DasEI> apt-cache search ubuntustudio
[21:48] <ibuffy> yeah yeah... i can find it that way.. but i want my graphical packman
[21:49] <DasEI> ibuffy: synaptic also shows
[21:50] <DasEI> .. so does adept
[21:51] <ibuffy> argh, which adept?
[21:51] <DasEI> ibuffy : sudo adept from trml
[21:52] <ibuffy> that is the 'package manager'
[21:53] <ragil> hi all
[21:53] <ibuffy> so... let's give it one more go
[21:53] <ibuffy> hi ragil
[21:53] <ragil> btw can i ask something
[21:53] <ibuffy> well.. i'll have to wait awhile until some other packages are through installing to get admin privs
[21:53] <ibuffy> ragil: this is a support channel :)
[21:54] <ragil> if i want to change default run level on ubuntu where is conf file is located?
[21:55] <sixofour1> GRUB Loading... Error 22
[21:58] <thebe> thanks
[21:58] <thebe> I got the solution
[22:02] <ibuffy> ragil: http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html
[22:02] <ibuffy> alright DasEI, i don't know how you found ubuntustudio using adept
[22:02] <ibuffy> i searched just for ubuntustudio
[22:02] <ibuffy> nothing
[22:02] <ibuffy> fetched package lists, did it again, same results
[22:02] <DasEI> your sources.list ??
[22:03] <ibuffy> they are fine
[22:03] <ibuffy> i can find ubuntustudio-* using apt-get
[22:03] <DasEI> I found a bounce there, wallpapers, audio,.. medibuntu maybe ?
[22:04] <ibuffy> DasEI: http://bayimg.com/DAoeNAAbe
[22:06] <ibuffy> adept has never worked for me, it's so discouraging... so when's the packman coming out
[22:06] <ibuffy> please say soon
[22:09] <beardbar> Hi guys so yesterday I cam to the conclusion that 8.10 just wont support 3 monitors after much forum reading and googling. I apparently need to down grade but was wondering how diffrent kde 3 is to kde 4?
[22:09] <DasEI> ibuffy: packman is something else, it's a file hoster
[22:11] <DasEI> sixofour1:
[22:11] <DasEI> ?
[22:11] <sixofour1> yeah
[22:11] <sixofour1> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[22:11] <DasEI> sudo grub-install /dev/sdb1
[22:11] <sixofour1> ./boot isn't mounted on anything
[22:11] <sixofour1> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block devi
[22:13] <draik_> I've just had my desktop running for the past 10-15 minutes without doing anything to it. It is still running (non-frozen)
[22:13] <draik_> If I were to launch an app, it would freeze
[22:13] <draik_> Firefox, Thunderbird, System Settings, EnvyNG, etc
[22:14] <DasEI> sixofour1: sure, mount it again or it isn't writeable
[22:14] <sixofour1> mount what?
[22:14] <sixofour1> i'm being spoonfed here, no clue what i am doing
[22:15] <sixofour1> lol
[22:15] <beardbar> anyone how big a diffrent kde 4 is to kde 3?
[22:16] <sixofour1> k its mounted
[22:16] <DasEI> sixofour1:  sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb
[22:17] <sixofour1> Unrecognized option `--root-directoy=/mnt'
[22:18] <DasEI> sixofour1: sudo umount -a
[22:18] <beardbar> oh i guess kde4 is on 8.04 lol nm
[22:18] <DasEI> sixofour1: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[22:19] <DasEI> sixofour1:  sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb
[22:19] <sixofour1> ok
[22:19] <sixofour1> stuff happened
[22:20] <sixofour1> (hd0)   /dev/sda
[22:20] <sixofour1> (hd1)   /dev/sdb
[22:20] <sixofour1> thats the result
[22:20] <sixofour1> an error occured but it said to ignore it
[22:21] <DasEI> corresponding BIOS drive  ? which error ?
[22:21] <cajun> i'm having an issue installing Kubuntu 8.4 on an older laptop.  It is a Gateway that is running Millenium. It has 120MB RAM, and it's a P3.  When the install starts, the progress bar during initialization gets to maybe 10 or 15% before the laptop just completely shuts down.
[22:21] <sixofour1> Due to a bug in xfs_freeze, the following command might produce a segmentation
[22:21] <cajun> I have run a memory test and no errors were found.
[22:21] <sixofour1> fault when /mnt/boot/grub is not in an XFS filesystem. This error is harmless and
[22:21] <sixofour1> can be ignored.
[22:21] <cajun> what can I do to make it work?  Millenium boots with no problems that I can see.
[22:21] <sixofour1> !pastebin
[22:22] <DasEI> cajun:120 is hard, try alternate installer or :
[22:22] <ibuffy> DasEI: heh, i know what packman is, but i was using packman as a short way of saying package manager because i'm a lazy typer
[22:22] <DasEI> !minimal
[22:22] <cajun> is that why i can't even run it live?
[22:23] <DasEI> might be, but for that also :
[22:23] <DasEI> !bootoptions
[22:23] <DasEI> (for the live^)
[22:23] <sixofour1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/130365/
[22:23] <sixofour1> DasEI:
[22:23] <cajun> i installed the "hedgehog" version on an older computer a few years ago and didn't have an issue. It was running Win95.
[22:24] <cajun> i have the liver version on my 8.4, is that different than what I'd get from that url?
[22:24] <DasEI> sixofour1: looks good, : cd /mnt
[22:24] <DasEI> sixofour1: looks good, : cd /boot
[22:24] <DasEI> cd /grub
[22:24] <DasEI> nano menu.lst
[22:25] <DasEI> cajun: yes, the alternate installer is a better bet for that machine, but can't run live
[22:25] <Slonkie> Would anyone be capable of helping me making my Atheros AR5BXB63 wireless work on kubuntu?
[22:25] <sixofour1> abi-2.6.27-7-generic     grub            System.map-2.6.27-7-generic
[22:25] <cajun> ok.  thanks for your help.
[22:25] <sixofour1> config-2.6.27-7-generic  memtest86+.bin  vmcoreinfo-2.6.27-7-generic
[22:25] <sixofour1> ls of /boot
[22:25] <ibuffy> can't upgrade to kde 4.2...
[22:26] <ibuffy> would like to if possible
[22:26] <ibuffy> it will be on jaunty right?
[22:26] <ibuffy> i will hold off if so
[22:26] <DasEI> sixofour1:sudo updatedb
[22:26] <sixofour1> 4.2 is on 8.10
[22:26] <goofey> ibuffy: it will be in jaunty
[22:26] <DasEI> sixofour1:locate menu.lst
[22:26] <ibuffy> it's in unsupported backports
[22:26] <ibuffy> not something i'm wanting to use...
[22:26] <DasEI> sixofour1:get the one from the disk ( cd has also)
[22:27] <gabriel_> can anyone figure out why i suddenly only can get working sound in dragonplayer, and not in totem player or vlc player?
[22:27] <ibuffy> and maybe a new _package manager_ will be issued with jaunty
[22:27] <ibuffy> i miss the old adept
[22:27] <sixofour1> which one is that? [there are 8 files]
[22:27] <DasEI> gabriel_: pcm ?
[22:27] <DasEI> !alsa | gabriel_:
[22:28] <DasEI> gabriel_: install alsamixer and check pcm-volume
[22:28] <DasEI> sixofour1:paste the output of locate ^
[22:28] <DasEI> paste
[22:29] <eladioreis> Hello can anyone help-me ho can i listen radio online with mozilla?
[22:29] <sixofour1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/130366/
[22:29] <gabriel_> o dpmt
[22:29] <DasEI> eladioreis:google for onlineradio, but amarok is much nicer to me
[22:30] <gabriel_> i don't have sound system. only multimedia
[22:30] <gabriel_> and no option for "enable the sound system"
[22:30] <eladioreis> i have amarock
[22:30] <Constrabus> After an install with 8.10 I enabled effects in desktoop settings. Now the dekstop is black but I can see the mouse. How do I rever the settings?
[22:30] <DasEI>  /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst  , sixofour1
[22:30] <gabriel_> DasEI: however, testing the sound works in multimedia dialog
[22:30] <sixofour1> ok what do i do?
[22:30] <Constrabus> revert*
[22:31] <DasEI>  gedit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst  , sixofour1, still empty ???
[22:31] <sixofour1> how can i check?
[22:31] <jhutchins_wk> Constrabus: So you're saying those weren't the effects you wanted?
[22:31] <DasEI> gabriel_: sudo apt-get install alsamixergui
[22:31] <sixofour1> ff gedit is 86mb?
[22:32] <DasEI> gabriel_: when done : alsamixergui
[22:32] <DasEI> nano /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst  , sixofour1, still empty ???
[22:32] <Constrabus> jhutchins_wk Im saying that enableing the settings made everything unuseable because the desktop is black now and can only see the mouse. Default settings are needed.
[22:32] <Slonkie> Would anyone be capable of helping me making my Atheros AR5BXB63 wireless work on kubuntu?
[22:32] <jhutchins_wk> Constrabus: Well, there was no guarantee you'd _like_ the effects.
[22:33] <DasEI> gabriel_: gui up ?
[22:33] <sixofour1> ok i see stuff DasEI
[22:33] <jhutchins_wk> Constrabus: Maybe the mouse is all there is.  Not very usefull, I'll admint.
[22:33] <sixofour1> 142 lines
[22:33] <thebe> hi, unluckily my usb was inserted in my laptop while i was installing linux and it also got formated in ext3 file system. I don know how to format it with fat and i don recognize in shell also
[22:33] <thebe> any one to help this new user
[22:33] <DasEI> ctrl-c in trml to close gedit , :XD sixofour1
[22:33] <DasEI> nano*
[22:33] <Constrabus> jhutchins_wk Ok how can I change tthe setting perhaps in the console since thats all I have
[22:33] <jhutchins_wk> Constrabus: I think you may be able to select a different session in the login manager, that may help.
[22:33] <gabriel_> DasEI: yes, that got the sound back! awesome :)
[22:34] <sixofour1> ctrl-c doesn't close it
[22:34] <thebe> DasEI is there to help me again
[22:34] <shadowhywind> Hay all having a bit of problem, every time I try to use glx (either glxgears, or compiz) my laptop will freeze (most of the time within 5 mins)
[22:34] <jhutchins_wk> Constrabus: You may also be able to run kdesudo(?) kcontrol.
[22:34] <DasEI> sudo reboot  sixofour1
[22:34] <jhutchins_wk> !sudo
[22:34] <gabriel_> DasEI: however, i don't understand what caused it to dissapear in the first place... ubuntu really isn't more stable than windows :/
[22:34] <DasEI> thebe ?
[22:34] <sixofour1> can't do that either
[22:34] <sixofour1> i can only type text
[22:34] <thebe> hi
[22:35] <gabriel_> DasEI: and why does it say that pulseAudio doesn't work?
[22:35] <thebe> DasEi
[22:35] <thebe> I am here
[22:35] <thebe> listening you
[22:35] <sixofour1> how do i exit?
[22:35] <sixofour1> hit the x on the terminal?
[22:35] <thebe> I did solve the problem with sound card
[22:35] <jhutchins_wk> sixofour1: exit <CR>
[22:35] <DasEI> or ctrl and x in nano
[22:35] <thebe> but usb is gone now
[22:35] <sixofour1> what is exit <cr>
[22:35] <sixofour1> ?
[22:36] <DasEI> yo
[22:36] <Constrabus> jhutchins_wk is there a command to make defualt settings? im in the cosole
[22:36] <Constrabus> console*
[22:36] <DasEI> gabriel_: alsa is mostly common, depends on your hardware
[22:36] <will_> I'm running KDE/Openbox, is there a way to control the window action's for the Openbox portion?
[22:37] <DasEI> thebe: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:37] <gabriel_> DasEI: i have awesome HW :)
[22:37] <noren> damn network admin, i was downloading jaunty alpha 5 bugger they removed the entirre thing when i was half way with download
[22:38] <noren> can any one confirm if its working for them >>> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/jaunty-alpha-5
[22:39] <noren> it seems they have now updated it to alpha 6 what a waste of time for me :(
[22:39] <thebe> but I have to format my flash memory
[22:39] <DasEI> thebe: sudo apt-get install usbview usbutils
[22:39] <thebe> thanks
[22:39] <Dr_Willis64> thebe,  you format the filesystem with the mkfs.XXX command
[22:40] <Dr_Willis64> thebe,  or with a front end like gparted
[22:40] <draik_> It would appear that I cannot use any nVidia drivers as they all cause my computer to freeze
[22:40] <DasEI> thebe: sudo fdisk -l , flash there ?
[22:40] <thebe> what does that xxx stand for
[22:40] <Dr_Willis64> hit TAB and see the options
[22:40] <Dr_Willis64> mkfs.vfat for vfat, ext2 for ext2.. and so on
[22:40] <thebe> thank you
[22:40] <DasEI> thebe: use gparted
[22:40] <Dr_Willis64> XXX for porn drive? :)
[22:40] <Constrabus> jhutchins_wk   Just had to delete .kde dir in home and let it recreate for defualt settings.
[22:41] <RiotingPacifist`> could somebody tell me if ucl.ac.uk is down or if im just having problems with my connection
[22:41] <DasEI> RiotingPacifist`: url ?
[22:41] <gabriel_> another really FUNNY bug: when i PAUSE amarok, i get weird artifacts in any video playback... hahaha... and when i press play again in amarok - perfect video playback again :)
[22:41] <RiotingPacifist`> http://www.ucl.ac.uk
[22:41] <gabriel_> is that weird or what?
[22:42] <gabriel_> if i minimize amarok, it's back to perfect video playback again
[22:42] <RiotingPacifist`> gabriel_: what kde and what gfx card
[22:42] <RiotingPacifist`> s/card/drivers
[22:43] <gabriel_> kde4.2, nvidia gf8800 drivers are that 177 recommended one
[22:43] <gabriel_> kubuntu 8.10
[22:43] <DasEI> RiotingPacifist`:loading very slow, if at all, still empty
[22:43] <gabriel_> weird artifacts in video playback only when amarok is showing
[22:43] <Slonkie> Would anyone be capable of helping me making my Atheros AR5BXB63 wireless work on kubuntu?
[22:43] <gabriel_> and paused
[22:44] <gabriel_> in stopped mode there are no artifacts. only in paused mode
[22:44] <DasEI>  Slonkie:I don't use wl, but might see:
[22:44] <DasEI> !wireless
[22:44] <beardbar> actually, im not sure i understand this but does 8.04.2 come with kde 4 or only kde 3?
[22:44] <gabriel_> RiotingPacifist`: weird huh :)
[22:44] <RiotingPacifist`> DasEI thx, i resinstalled last nite and been having internet troubles (droping 15% of my ping to google) not sure if it was me/myisp/ucl
[22:44] <ubuntu__> 3
[22:45] <DasEI> Slonkie: try #ubuntu for that, if no help here
[22:45] <ubuntu__> that is what i have on live cd
[22:45] <ubuntu__> beardbar kde  3
[22:46] <ubuntu__> since it is long term support
[22:46] <beardbar> ubuntu__: drat, wanted so bad to run kde4 but 8.10 doesnt support 3 monitors very well
[22:46] <DasEI>    Connection to <IP_ADDRESS> Failed     The system returned:     (110) Connection timed out  , RiotingPacifist`
[22:47] <RiotingPacifist`> gabriel_: id guess that you have composing enabled, which generally means youll get those bugs given (kde4.x isnt very mature with desktop effects, nvidia closed grafix drivers while good are full little of bugs)
[22:47] <ubuntu__> if i install the live cd can somebody here help me get it where i can get the upates since i am using ppc
[22:47] <andy> hi
[22:47] <andy> i have a severe problem
[22:47] <andy> cannot login anymore into the KDE
[22:47] <RiotingPacifist`> thx DasEI, now if only i could figure out why pinging my router is dropping 7% of my packets
[22:48] <RiotingPacifist`> andy: is your hdd full? login to a term and run df - h, can you login to failsafe?
[22:48] <andy> I had 190MB of free space on my hdd and i wanted to install openclipart and it said it requiered also open office and i clicked install, as I already have wirter and calc, ... i thought i wouldn#t chnage much, but now I have 0 Bytes free
[22:49] <DasEI> RiotingPacifist`: sudo netstat            ?? dns ?
[22:49] <andy> i did apt-get remove octave and supposedly this freed 30 MB but df still says 0
[22:49] <andy> RiotingPacifist am with alt ctrl F1  in console
[22:49] <RiotingPacifist`> andy: problem is you have no free space in temp to setup the permition files, run sudo apt-get clean from a terminal see if that frees you up some space
[22:50] <thebe> I did sudo fdisk -l but I did not recognize the usb
[22:50] <DasEI> !trash | andy
[22:50] <beardbar> ubuntu__: look what i found, anyone know if this works well? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/8.04.1/release/
[22:50] <thebe> i plugged out usb and even then I got the same output of this command
[22:50] <RiotingPacifist`> alternatively somebody might no the command to mount /tmp on a ramdisk as a quick fix
[22:50] <Dr_Willis64> thebe,  unplug/plug it back in , check out put of 'dmesg' command, (run it once, then wait a few sec and run dmesg again to see new messages at the bottom.
[22:50] <RiotingPacifist`> *know
[22:51] <DasEI> thebe: try a reboot to reload hal
[22:51] <Faust-C> hmm now desktop seems better since i changed nvidia settings from streched to centered
[22:51] <sixofour2> DasEI:
[22:51] <Faust-C> option wasnt there in ubuntu
[22:52] <sixofour2> GRUB Loading.... Error 22
[22:52] <andy> RiotingPacifist: sudo apt-get clean didn't change a thing. And 0+30=0  I had zero free, freed 30 and still have zero free
[22:52] <sixofour2> lol
[22:52] <DasEI> sixofour2: yes
[22:52] <thebe> I am waiting DasEI!!
[22:52] <DasEI> thebe: try a reboot to reload hal,  sudo reboot
[22:52] <DasEI> sixofour2: can you D/L and burn a cd ?
[22:53] <sixofour2> what cd?
[22:53] <DasEI> sixofour2: super-grub-disk
[22:53] <RiotingPacifist`> netstat shows rpc.statd dhclient & dhclient3 is having 2 dhclient a bad thing?
[22:53] <andy> trash is empty
[22:53] <sixofour2> there is no /boot
[22:53] <sixofour2> i need a /boot partition don't i?
[22:54] <etfb> Anyone using kpowersave in Hardy instead of the standard Guidance Power Manager?  I notice it's got a weird bug: if you shut down and then close the lid, it will suspend... then when you resume later, it continues shutting down.  Anyone else see behaviour like that, or am I imagining it?
[22:54] <RiotingPacifist`> but im pinging my router <IP_ADDRESS> so i dont think im even using dns, could it be the new wireless stack :S
[22:54] <sixofour2> ive insteal with this cd severasl times in the past 4 days
[22:54] <sixofour2> installed
[22:54] <DasEI> sixofour2: there is, we checked before
[22:55] <sixofour2> there isn't
[22:55] <sixofour2> there is a folder /boot
[22:55] <sixofour2> but the only partitions are / and /home/
[22:55] <andy> well, thanks
[22:55] <RiotingPacifist`> !tmpfs
[22:55] <DasEI> http://paste.ubuntu.com/130366/
[22:55] <RiotingPacifist`> !tmp
[22:56] <RiotingPacifist`> andy i think there is a utility like mount overflow tmpfs to let you login, /etc/init.d/mountoverflowtmp start or something like that
[22:56] <DasEI> RiotingPacifist`: 2 dhcp clients ? ifconfig ? more then one nic ?
[22:56] <sixofour2> i wonder if reinstalling kubuntu can fix this
[22:56] <DasEI> RiotingPacifist`: andy left
[22:56] <sixofour2> ugh
[22:56] <sixofour2> ive installed kubuntu 5 times in 2 days
[22:57] <DasEI> sixofour2: there is, for some reason grub didn't install properly
[22:58] <sixofour2> how many aprtitions do i need?
[22:58] <sixofour2> EXACTLY
[22:58] <sixofour2> what do they need to be called
[22:58] <DasEI> sixofour2: 2 least,    /  and swap
[22:58] <Dr_Willis64> 2 minimum :) yep
[22:58] <sixofour2> well i have 3
[22:58] <Dr_Willis64> you can use 3 if you want
[22:58] <sixofour2> ./ swap and /home/
[22:58] <DasEI> a separate /home, no prob
[22:58] <sixofour2> yeah so wtf is the problem?
[22:59] <Dr_Willis64>  thats the 2nd most common layout
[22:59] <RiotingPacifist`> DasEI: i have wireless and an unused ethernet port, netstat -i is giving me a few extra devices though :S eth0:avahi wlanmaster0
[22:59] <sixofour2> what does error 22 mean?
[22:59] <Dr_Willis64> thats a grub error. check the grub homepage
[22:59] <sixofour2> grub has a home page?
[22:59] <Dr_Willis64> YES....
[22:59] <Dr_Willis64> Most EVERYTHING has a homepage :)
[22:59] <sixofour2> what is grub?
[22:59] <Dr_Willis64> grub is very very very well documented
[22:59] <sixofour2> lol
[22:59] <Dr_Willis64> !grub
[22:59] <sixofour2> oh
[22:59] <sixofour2> i read those, didn't help any
[22:59] <Dr_Willis64> Grub is such an improntant tool - its worth reading about.
[23:00] <Dr_Willis64> so go check its manual at the homepage.
[23:00] <sixofour2> i think i'll just reinstall and hope
[23:00] <Dr_Willis64> if you plan on using linux - its worth learning grub :)
[23:00] <Dr_Willis64> or just rely on the old windows mentality of reinsgtalling and hopeing..
[23:00] <will_> Is there a way to change the mod-key in Openbox from ALT to META?
[23:00] <Dr_Willis64> I doubt if reinstalling will change much
[23:01] <sixofour2> i doubt if reading sveeral hundred pages of completely unrelevent information will either
[23:01] <Dr_Willis64> you dont know.. it MAY be doumcneted right there on the 'grub error code page'
[23:01] <etfb> How do I put a daily time limit on a login.  I want my kids to have a maximum of 3 hours a day on their computers, so they can interact with something other than YouTube and horsey RPGs.  Any ideas?
[23:02] <RiotingPacifist`> sixofour2: its thowing up an error to do with multiboot kernels can you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:02] <Faust-C> etfb: it would be simpler to limit inet
[23:02] <goofey> etfb: I'm pretty sure edubuntu has that option (might be able to use their program in kubuntu)
[23:03] <Faust-C> etfb: or a kiosk mode
[23:03] <sixofour2> what is a gui program i can use to view this file?
[23:03] <goofey> ubottu: !edubuntu | etfb
[23:03] <RiotingPacifist`> http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html < type grub errors into firefox3 and thats what you get
[23:03] <DasEI> sixofour2: means a file not found error, mount / again and paste menu.lst
[23:03] <RiotingPacifist`> sixofour2: erm kate or any text editor
[23:04] <DasEI> sixofour2: kate, gedit, nono, vim ....
[23:04] <Dr_Willis64> 22 : No such partition
[23:04] <Dr_Willis64>     This error is returned if a partition is requested in the device part of a device- or full file name which isn't on the selected disk.
[23:04] <DasEI> nano
[23:04] <cajun1> is there a way to do the minimal installation using a USB wireless NIC?
[23:04] <cajun1> that's what I have and the Ubuntu install isn't recognizing it.
[23:04] <sixofour2> The file /boot/grub/meny.lst could not be loaded, as it was not possible to read from it.
[23:04] <sixofour2> er
[23:04] <sixofour2> lol
[23:04] <Dr_Willis64> sounds like somthing is totally missconfigured then.
[23:05] <etfb> Faust-C: Limiting internet doesn't stop them playing games...
[23:05] <sixofour2> The file /boot/grub/menu.lst could not be loaded, as it was not possible to read from it.
[23:05] <DasEI> sixofour2: paste your menu.lst
[23:05] <RiotingPacifist`> sixofour2 is there anything in /boot
[23:05] <DasEI> http://paste.ubuntu.com/130366/
[23:05] <etfb> I'll check the Edubuntu website and see what they use for that.
[23:05] <sixofour2> abi-2.6.27-7-generic     memtest86+.bin               vmcoreinfo-2.6.27-7-generic
[23:05] <sixofour2> config-2.6.27-7-generic  System.map-2.6.27-7-generic
[23:05] <sixofour2> ls of /boot
[23:05] <carlitos____> hi,  anyone  pls  I have  a  epson model FX-880+  how to  install it  in kubuntu the model do not appears to  select  it
[23:05] <DasEI> sixofour2: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[23:05] <Dr_Willis64> theres no /boot/grub direcgtory?
[23:06] <Faust-C> etfb: playing online games or local games?
[23:06] <sixofour2> i guess not
[23:06] <RiotingPacifist`> cajun1: its possible, not easy but definatly possible
[23:06] <Dr_Willis64> oh yea.. look at the installed systems /boot/ NOT the live cds /boot/ :)
[23:06] <DasEI> sixofour2: gedit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:06] <sixofour2> mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[23:06] <etfb> Faust-C: Local ones - the online ones are kind of hard to play with the internet, I find.
[23:06] <Faust-C> oic
[23:06] <DasEI> sixofour2: fdisk -l  ?
[23:06] <etfb> s/with/without/, of course.
[23:06] <sixofour2> you know i am on livecd right DasEI
[23:06] <sixofour2> any changes i make are not saved
[23:07] <DasEI> sixofour2: sure
[23:07] <cajun1> it's an older laptop so there's no no ethernet port.
[23:07] <Dr_Willis64> sixofour2,  ifyou mount the partition and edit them they would be..
[23:07] <sixofour2> ubuntu@ubuntu:/boot$ fdisk -l
[23:07] <sixofour2> Cannot open /dev/sda
[23:07] <sixofour2> Cannot open /dev/sdb
[23:07] <Dr_Willis64> use sudo fdisk -l
[23:07] <DasEI> sixofour2: sudo fdisk -l  ?
[23:08] <sixofour2> http://pastebin.com/m32aab21e
[23:08] <cajun1> riot: can you walk me through it or know where i can get directions?
[23:08] <RiotingPacifist`> cajun1: do you know what packages you need to support the usb wireless device?
[23:08] <DasEI> sixofour2: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[23:08] <cajun1> i assume that dialup won't work either
[23:08] <DasEI> sixofour2: gedit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:09] <cajun1> not specifically. kubuntu just made it work with no problem.
[23:09] <DasEI> sixofour2: you changed drives in bios, didn't you  ?
[23:09] <sixofour2> no
[23:09] <cajun1> i'm attempting to do a clean install.
[23:09] <sixofour2> i todl you i don't know anything about that
[23:09] <DasEI> sixofour2:do you an external drive ?
[23:09] <sixofour2> no
[23:09] <sixofour2> 2 hard drives
[23:09] <DasEI> real strange then
[23:10] <Dr_Willis64> 2 internal drives, both sata or ide? you installed to the first or 2nd one?
[23:10] <sixofour2> one die oen sata, sata second, installed to second
[23:10] <DasEI> sixofour2: however, menu.lst > paste
[23:10] <sixofour2> ide*
[23:10] <sixofour2> it worked before because i installed to the ide 8Gb drive, but someone said that is bad and told me to do something else
[23:11] <sixofour2> i reinstalled because altering the SATA drive required sudo
[23:11] <sixofour2> actually
[23:11] <Dr_Willis64> its Possible that the use of a ide and sata drives are causing the 'enumeration' of the drives to switch around. thus grub is getting them swapped
[23:11] <sixofour2> i can still put /home/ on the sata
[23:11] <sixofour2> and put / on ide
[23:11] <sixofour2> then i won't need sudo to use or save anything
[23:11] <Dr_Willis64> so theres no windows at all on this sytem?
[23:11] <RiotingPacifist`> cajun1: could you use the alt CD to settup the system without requiring a network connection? ive not installed ubuntu in almost a year but any install that doesnt require a net connection (not a netinstall) should work
[23:12] <sixofour2> there is nothing
[23:12] <DasEI> sixofour2: this why you get the errors, let's check menu.lst fo uuids to prevent that
[23:12] <Dr_Willis64> sixofour2,  or ya could of learned how to mount the drive properly and not reinsgtalled at all
[23:12] <sixofour2> jsut a broken kubuntu install
[23:12] <sixofour2> i did what #kubuntu told me
[23:12] <thebe> I did sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb
[23:12] <TonserPerson> i have a question...and im in bit og a desperate situation
[23:12] <thebe> is it okay to format the usb
[23:12] <Dr_Willis64> sixofour2,  if you 'must' reinstall again..i would unplug one drive.. and install to the other..  that way theres only 1 hard drive to mess with. and get that working first
[23:13] <Dr_Willis64> then you can easially put /home/ on the 2nd hd.
[23:13] <TonserPerson> i have 3 x harddisks... 1 with windows vista...and one without any os...and one with a third OS
[23:13] <sixofour2> but the install requires two drives
[23:13] <DasEI> or just another grub install with that setup, sixofour2
[23:13] <TonserPerson> i just installed kubuntu on my second drive...without a os
[23:13] <RiotingPacifist`> everybody wants tho help in here but unfortnunatly we arn't all geniouses and get stuff wrong, my guess is that all you need to do is reinstall grub from the livecd
[23:13] <Dr_Willis64> sixofour2,  that makes no sence.. You dont need 2 drives to install.
[23:13] <draik_> What would cause the recommended nVidia driver to work one minute and then cause havoc the next? I can't do anything with an nVidia driver because video gives out if it doesn't freeze first.
[23:13] <TonserPerson> reboot...select the kubuntu drive to boot from
[23:13] <thebe> but I got message that mkfs.vfat: Will not try to make filesystem on full-disk device '/dev/sdb' (use -I if wanted)
[23:13] <TonserPerson> grub error 17 occurs
[23:14] <TonserPerson> i choose my windows disk for boot...again grub error
[23:14] <Dr_Willis64> thebe,  you want to make a filesystem NOT ON /dev/sdb  but PERHAPS /dev/sdb1
[23:14] <sixofour2> one drive is 8gb, i'm not using that for / and /homer/
[23:14] <TonserPerson> what is grub doing on my windows disk_
[23:14] <sixofour2> ./home/
[23:14] <ubuntu__> any ppc users here
[23:14] <Dr_Willis64> i wouldent even mess with a 8gb hd  much at all. :)  could mount it later to some location i guess..
[23:14] <sixofour2> menu.lst http://pastebin.com/m6818c769
[23:15] <RiotingPacifist`> thebe: you normally put a partition table on a device, use qtparted
[23:15] <Dr_Willis64> they made ide drives that are 8gb in size? :) egads.how old is that thing.
[23:15] <sixofour2> 10 years old
[23:15] <sixofour2> it was my OS drive when i had windopws
[23:16] <thebe> RiotingPacifist i did not get you could you tell me the detail
[23:16] <DasEI> sixofour2: the switching around is really strange
[23:16] <sixofour2> what is switching around?
[23:16] <cajun1> riot: i installed the minimal instead of the alternate.  i'll try again
[23:16] <DasEI> sixofour2: sudo blkid                 > paste the output
[23:16] <Constrabus> There is no more space left on my boot partition to apt-get upgrade gwenview. can I have apt-get do the work somewhere else then copy the product to /boot?
[23:17] <thebe> while i did sudo fdisk -l then I got
[23:17] <thebe> thebe@Voracious:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[23:17] <sixofour2> /dev/sda1: UUID="ad69ede1-c882-4bc9-ab61-8b5c5a739732" TYPE="ext3"
[23:17] <thebe> Disk /dev/sda: 320.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>76 bytes
[23:17] <sixofour2> /dev/sda5: UUID="6601b099-1dab-43c7-b55b-f5f1225a78ff" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
[23:17] <thebe> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
[23:17] <RiotingPacifist`> TonserPerson: my guess is that you installed grub to the wrong mbr, the windows cd can be used to fix its mbr, and then grub can be reinstalled to the correct mbr
[23:17] <sixofour2> /dev/sda6: UUID="8744a4fb-a7d8-4f6c-959f-8364c1ee67d2" TYPE="swap"
[23:17] <thebe> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[23:17] <sixofour2> /dev/loop0: TYPE="squashfs"
[23:17] <thebe> Disk identifier: 0x0defb609
[23:17] <thebe>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[23:17] <thebe> /dev/sda1           20111       26755    53375962+  83  Linux
[23:17] <thebe> /dev/sda2   *        1307       20110   151041024    7  HPFS/NTFS
[23:17] <thebe> /dev/sda3               1        1306    10490413+   5  Extended
[23:17] <thebe> /dev/sda4           26756       38913    97659135   83  Linux
[23:17] <thebe> /dev/sda5               1        1306    10490382   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[23:17] <thebe> Partition table entries are not in disk order
[23:17] <thebe> Disk /dev/sdb: 2006 MB,<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes
[23:17] <ubuntu__> thebe past bin
[23:17] <thebe> 62 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1019 cylinders
[23:17] <thebe> Units = cylinders of 3844 * 512 = 1968128 bytes
[23:17] <thebe> Disk identifier: 0x000d999c
[23:17] <thebe>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[23:17] <DasEI> sixofour2: /dev/sda <> /dev/sdb  switching
[23:17] <thebe> thebe@Voracious:~$
[23:17] <sixofour2> oh
[23:17] <DasEI> !paste | thebe
[23:17] <Constrabus> There is no more space left on my boot partition to apt-get upgrade gwenview. can I have apt-get do the work somewhere else then copy the product to /boot?
[23:18] <Dr_Willis64> if a machine boots the 2nd hd.. often the 2 disks get 'switched' sda becomes sdb and so forth.. thats one ofthe reasons the UUID stuff is used these days
[23:18] <Dr_Willis64> Constrabus,  /boot/ is not where stuffinstalls to / is
[23:18] <RiotingPacifist`> cajun1: i think the wireless stuff may not be on the minimal install but you can install a full os (if thiers space) then remove what you dont want with purge to get a smaller system
[23:18] <Dr_Willis64> Constrabus,  i would clean out some of the things on your hard drive if you are that short on space
[23:19] <RiotingPacifist`> thebe: if you run a nice gui tool like qtparted you should be able to select /dev/sdb and create a large partition then format it vfat
[23:19] <sixofour2> i'll just reinstall and put / on the first drive, problem solved
[23:19] <RiotingPacifist`> draik_: kernel updates mess up the proprietary driver
[23:19] <sixofour2> that or i can switch the hard drives around
[23:20] <sixofour2> id rpefer the firsdt option
[23:20] <DasEI> sixofour2: and also check super-grub-disk for future
[23:20] <sixofour2> welp, i'll be back soon
[23:20] <DasEI> sixofour2: want to stop  here ?
[23:20] <RiotingPacifist`> sixofour2: ive not followed the entire converstation but i think you only need to reinstall grub
[23:20] <Constrabus> Dr_Willis64 I have a separate partition set to mount at /boot
[23:21] <DasEI> thebe ?
[23:21] <RiotingPacifist`> Constrabus: /boot only has your kernels, why does gwenbiew care about /boot :S
[23:23]  * Dr_Willis64 was about to say that RiotingPacifist`  :) but im cooking lunch...
[23:23] <Dr_Willis64> there /  Then theres /boot :)
[23:23] <Constrabus> RiotingPacifist` I suppose because it updated the kernel and is trying to update initramfs but doesnt have enough space to do so? =)
[23:24] <kaddi> !muse
[23:24] <Constrabus> Ill just have to resize partitions booting into gparted live
[23:24] <Dr_Willis64> if /boot/ is full.. you got some serious issues :)
[23:24] <kaddi> !info muse
[23:24] <RiotingPacifist`> Constrabus: how many kernels do you have in /boot
[23:25] <Constrabus> Rioting the one that came with the install CD and the one it is trying tto update to
[23:26] <Guest79712> need help w/ usb mount not working in 8.04
[23:27] <Guest79712> plugging in the usb key used to automount but not anymore
[23:27] <RiotingPacifist`> Constrabus: ah well then the only safe thing to do is resize the partition, if your *insane*(i.e this could break your system so dont sue me) like myself you could remove the last good kernel stuff and only leave the current kernel and the new one
[23:28] <Constrabus> RiotingPacifist` Yeah resizing is the only thing left I can do unless I want to reinstall everything. Tried removing the old kernels but when I do it wont update cuz it need the old ones to get info to update from. So im stuck in the middle. lawl :/
[23:29] <RiotingPacifist`> but how small did you make /boot lenny only takes 20M per kernel
[23:30] <Constrabus> 40M... Im used to gentoo. this install if for a friend and I didnt realize that precompiled kernels would take up so much room with all the vmimage crap lawl
[23:30] <RiotingPacifist`> wth is ubuntu doing nowerdays :S, back in 8.04 and bellow i used delete all the kernels and just hope the new one worked
[23:31] <Constrabus> beats me. gotta run. thanks for your help
[23:31] <RiotingPacifist`> Constrabus: you could make a fake /boot containing all the /boot stuff, unmount real /boot, mv /boot2 to /boot then update and move through a few good kernels to the real boot
[23:32] <Constrabus> I was thinking about that also but its my friends so then he would havee to do that every time there is a kernel update
[23:32] <Constrabus> Hes ub noob
[23:33] <Dr_Willis64> i wouldent even mess with /boot/ partition these days..
[23:33] <RiotingPacifist`> yeah still its got to be better than genkernel :P
[23:33] <Constrabus> Dont use genkernel in gentoo.
[23:33] <Constrabus> Configure/compile my own
[23:34] <Constrabus> Toodles. see you later
[23:34] <RiotingPacifist`> now you tell me! i tried that too but i was doing it wrong. cya
[23:34] <RiotingPacifist`> Dr_Willis64: lvm is defiantly worth it given the state of my hardware and i dont trust grub2, so /boot is my only option
[23:35] <Dr_Willis64> I dont find much need for me for lvm either.
[23:35] <RiotingPacifist`> i like playing around with other distros
[23:35] <Dr_Willis64> all this fancy smacncy stuff makes it harder for me to access my err... vacation pictures from live cd and so forth. ;)
[23:35] <Dr_Willis64> and other disrtos.
[23:35] <Guest79712> can someone help me get my usb key mounted?
[23:36] <Dr_Willis64> Guest79712,  if ya plug it in and wait a few moments and use 'sudo fdisk -l' does it show up ?
[23:36] <RiotingPacifist`> !paste
[23:36] <Guest79712> nope
[23:36] <Guest79712> well what should I look for?
[23:37] <RiotingPacifist`> . /dev/sdb (assuming you have only 1 hdd)
[23:37] <Dr_Willis64> pastebin the fdisk -l  output.. compare it to what it looks like BEFOR you plug in the drive
[23:37] <Guest79712> fdisk give me blocks not mb so I'm not sure if i see it or not
[23:37] <Guest79712> multilple hdds
[23:38] <Dr_Willis64> example of mine...
[23:38] <Dr_Willis64> sudo fdisk -l | grep Disk
[23:39] <Dr_Willis64> Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes
[23:39] <Dr_Willis64> Disk /dev/sdb: 200.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes
[23:39] <Dr_Willis64> :) makes for cleaner output
[23:39] <Guest79712> sdb shows as one of my hdds
[23:40] <Guest79712> my usb key is not in taht list
[23:42] <qyr> Im using Kubuntu 8.10 , In Desktop Settings i see only options for Wallpaper and Desktop themes . I dont see any place where i can set a screensaver ..can someone plz help me with this ?
[23:43] <coreyman> do i have to remove kde games individually or is there a package
[23:43] <coreyman> qyr... applications>settings>screensaver
[23:44] <Guest79712> Disk /dev/sda: 20.4 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>0 bytes
[23:44] <Guest79712> Disk /dev/sdb: 80.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>2 bytes
[23:44] <Guest79712> Disk /dev/sdc: 500.1 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes
[23:44] <qyr> coreyman: in applications->settings, i have Qt4 settings,Software Sources and Wallet Management tool . Again, no option for screensaver :(
[23:44] <Guest79712> no 256mb usb key
[23:45] <coreyman> guest79712 usb may not be automounting
[23:45] <coreyman> qyr uhm
[23:45] <Guest79712> i noticed, how to get it to mount?
[23:45] <qyr> coreyman: do i need to install some package separately ?
[23:46] <coreyman> qyr i didnt have to, but im looking at .. sudo "apt-cache search screensaver" for the actual package.
[23:47] <coreyman> i think the package is kscreensaver-xsavers
[23:47] <coreyman> or try xscreensaver
[23:47] <qyr> coreyman: ok thanks,ill give that a try
[23:47] <coreyman> gues79712 i'm not sure never had that problem let me search.
[23:48] <Guest79712> k, tks
[23:49] <coreyman> guest79712 someone else had the problem and fixed it by installing some packages...
[23:49] <coreyman> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80070
[23:49] <Guest79712> k, should i just look for usb pkgs?
[23:50] <coreyman> can you not see that thread?
[23:50] <HoudDenBek> guys Im on kubuntu hardy, is there a way that when I select items on the desktop, the whole name of the item is displayed?
[23:50] <Guest79712> no, haven't really config my irc client yet
[23:50] <coreyman> ok guest ill post it here.
[23:51] <adminko> hello
[23:51] <adminko> ^_^
[23:51] <Guest79712> k, i found it
[23:51] <coreyman> guest79712 you found the post :P?
[23:51] <Guest79712> yes, tks
[23:51] <adminko> I`m instal kubuntu xD
[23:51] <adminko> i`ts my 1st day whith kubuntu )
[23:51] <adminko> enybody RUS ?
[23:51] <coreyman> kool adminko
[23:51] <coreyman> RUS=Russian?
[23:51] <adminko> Yes
[23:52] <coreyman> nah, us
[23:52] <adminko> nah?
[23:52] <coreyman> no*
[23:52] <adminko> )))
[23:52] <coreyman> nah== no in slang
[23:52] <adminko> how i can instal some icq client on kubuntu? )
[23:52] <coreyman> I installed pidgin
[23:52] <Slonkie> adept
[23:53] <coreyman> sudo apt-get pidgin
[23:53] <coreyman> wait.. icq
[23:53] <coreyman> what is icq
[23:53] <coreyman> oh yeah, icq, pidgin does that
[23:53] <adminko> pidgin?
[23:53] <adminko> icq=qip=miranda
[23:53] <Haza> Folks.  Software names ect?
[23:55] <coreyman> haza virtual machine from the sdn  network? i saw it earlier today on netbeans related projects im trying to find the link
[23:55] <adminko> Есть РУССКИЕ БЛЯЯЯ ?? :))))
[23:57] <coreyman> haza http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox
[23:57] <Haza> coreyman: Thanks mate. Checking it out now :)
[23:58] <coreyman> anyone know a channel for css?
[23:58] <Haza> coreyman: heheh #css
[23:58] <Haza> and #web


[01:06] <Bischoop> Hi
[01:07] <Bischoop> Can someone tell me what the issue I can't join #ubuntu
[01:07] <Bischoop> I get message I'm banned.
[01:08] <genii> It looks like the issue is you were spamming the channel, asked to stop but persisted
[01:09] <Bischoop> Impossible
[01:09] <Bischoop> I cant only talk qucikly and a lot
[01:10] <Bischoop> but never spamming or flooding channel
[01:10] <Bischoop> anyway I dont have been for good 3weeks
[01:11] <Bischoop> How long is it on? Never being banned although I use IRC over 20years
[01:11] <genii> Bischoop: log copy https://pastebin.com/WSgQE98S
[01:13] <Bischoop> LOL#
[01:13] <Bischoop> Ive being attacked so I just talk back
[01:13] <Bischoop> If someones talk to me I keep conversation
[01:14] <genii> Bischoop: I can lift the ban, but only if you remember to use #ubuntu for support and go to #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss non-support issues
[01:14] <Bischoop> Them OPS shold be smarter: dont talk
[01:15] <Bischoop> Consider it done genii
[01:15] <elky> you were asked by several users to be on topic.
[01:15] <Bischoop> I usually do
[01:15] <genii> You were asked if you had a support question. You did not. You then persisted in offtopic chatter.
[01:15] <Bischoop> yep but others talk
[01:15] <elky> you need to listen to the users as well as the ops. in this case you argued against them while in the wrong.
[01:16] <genii> Bischoop: Some chatter when it is slow in there is ok if no one objects. But it was not a slow time and you were asked to stop.
[01:18] <genii> Bischoop: You should be able to enter now
[01:18] <Bischoop> THX apreciate it genii
[01:18] <Bischoop> Wont talk offtop
[01:19] <genii> Thank you


[09:19] <A-Kaser> poy poy
[10:25] <thefish> anyone had any success with xen on dapper?
[10:25] <thefish> i have booted a xen0 domain, but i cant mount any disks apart from hda!
[10:53] <A-Kaser> I would like to try yesterday :)
[08:52] <edneymatias> hello!
[10:11] <edneymatias> does anybody here know anything about the ubuntu server development and launchpad?
[10:12] <edneymatias> i wonder where the ubuntu server stuffs are on the launchpad...
[10:14] <edneymatias> ...or there isn't any separation from the desktop development?
[10:15] <lionelp> edneymatias: there is no separation from the desktop development
[10:15] <lionelp> some packages concern desktop, other server
[10:16] <lionelp> The "server" part, is just a different kernel, different packages ship on the CD, and a longer support for packages labeled "server"
[10:16] <edneymatias> the same for specifications?
[10:16] <edneymatias> bugs and so on...
[10:16] <lionelp> some specifications are proper for server
[10:17] <lionelp> bugs are in the same repo
[10:17] <lionelp> packages are in the same repo
[10:17] <lionelp> like in Debian
[10:17] <edneymatias> thank you lionelp
[10:18] <lionelp> you're welcome
[10:30] <edneymatias> neuralis, ae?
[10:35] <neuralis> edneymatias: hm?
[10:36] <edneymatias> neuralis, did you write that spec about desktop management system?
[10:43] <neuralis> edneymatias: i don't think you're talking to the right person
[10:45] <edneymatias> neuralis, maybe i don't, in that case i'm so sorry
[10:45] <edneymatias> :(
[10:45] <neuralis> no problem
[10:47] <neuralis> infinity: ping
[11:42] <edneymatias> see ya