[00:00] <stan_man_can> If I check my "TOP" it says the command mysqld has been running for 6 hours and 11 minutes and is coming 13% of my memory, there are also 7 or so php5-cgi instances that hav been option for ~4 minutes that are taking up 4.1% of my memory each
[00:01] <stan_man_can> any way to investigate these more and see why?
[00:01] <WeThePeople> recurrent, it should have a right click option to remove from the launcher.
[00:02] <stan_man_can> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5651259 is the top chunk of my top
[00:02] <stan_man_can> i used SHIFT+M to sort by memory
[00:05] <jman074> stupid drive wont let me do anything with it
[00:06] <phillyj> jman074: what now?
[00:07] <jman074> lol phillyj. so i when to disk utility and when i try to format it or delete it i keep getting daemon is inhibited
[00:07] <recurrent> i have 2 ? icons on launcher with no options to do anything, how do i remove?
[00:08] <panchiniak> Hi. How can I write on a USB port? I would like to create a 3 volts signal on a usb output wire, under ubuntu. Any idea?
[00:08] <recurrent> tooltip says Debconf
[00:09] <caution> where can I find the source code for /bin/su ?
[00:10] <phillyj> jman074: can you unmount the drive?
[00:10] <trism> caution: apt-get source login;
[00:10] <jman074> phillyj that also says deamon is inhibited
[00:11] <phillyj> jman074: do you have gparted running too?
[00:11] <jman074> ummm yeeh
[00:11] <jman074> oops i forgot that was in the background from earlier
[00:12] <caution> trism: thanks but can I view it online somewhere?
[00:12] <jman074> do i need to shut it down
[00:12] <thejoelhansen> Good day all - I'm having an issue with some email forwarding. I've added a forward to /etc/aliases such as "bonk<EMAIL_ADDRESS>I ran newaliases. However, emails to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>just bounce as 'user not found'. I'm overlooking something. Is this a simple fix, or might anyone have any links to good articles on creating/ managing email accounts and such command line?
[00:13] <jman074> phillyj do i need to shut down gparted for it to work
[00:13] <phillyj> maybe; try it
[00:13] <trism> caution: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/shadow/saucy/files
[00:14] <caution> thank you
[00:15] <recurrent> a web search reveals i have https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-2d/+bug/1056843
[00:16] <recurrent> lol, i've only installed 3 thing since clean install
[00:17] <trism> recurrent: you get the ? icon whenever an app is not associated with a .desktop file for some reason (or it doesn't have an icon)
[00:17] <recurrent> it cannot be removed and has 0 options
[00:17] <trism> recurrent: if you can't get rid of it, a log out/log back in may fix it
[00:18] <recurrent> ok, i'll try anything once
[00:20] <recurrent> yes, relog fixed the launcher icon
[00:23] <Profeakti> Hi to all i am newby on ubuntu and i see i dont need av or something like that,  but some user recomends i install rkhunter and i do it and check for rootkits  and recive  2 warnings /usr/bin/unhide.rb [WARNING]  checking for hidden file directories [WARNING]. I dont have nothing strange installed, all from software center, i only install google chrome from his oficial website and nothing more,  i want to know if that are false positive o
[00:23] <Profeakti> r not, i read about those  warnings and i see divergent opinions, i ask on ubuntu-es and  nobody says me nothing and i see the articles relating to those warnings are too thecnical and in english can anybody says  me if those warnings are drangerous?. I feel a litle sad but on the spanish chanel always scare me and i am newby and dont feel free or on control of my sustem
[00:23] <phillyj> can't someone help me get my desktop back? How do I fix the nvidia kernel initialization failure?
[00:24] <Profeakti> alo?
[00:24] <phillyj> Profeakti: you said many things...why did you need to check for rootkits?
[00:24] <trism> phillyj: did you reboot after installing the nvidia package?
[00:25] <phillyj> trism: yes
[00:25] <trism> phillyj: what is the error in dmesg after trying to modprobe nvidia
[00:25] <phillyj> trism: i didn't modprobe nvidia
[00:26] <Profeakti>  i am new and check for it to be secure my installation are clean its my first time on ubuntu and those "scans" give me peace on mind
[00:26] <trism> phillyj: then modprobe nvidia and see what the error is
[00:26] <phillyj> trism: nvidia-current, right?
[00:27] <trism> phillyj: if you already rebooted shouldn't matter, but sure, nvidia_current
[00:27] <recurrent> Profeakti,  .rb is also ruby scripts
[00:28] <phillyj> trism: hmm, dmesg outputs alot; what should I filter out?
[00:28] <Profeakti> that warnings are drangeros Recurrent  i dont understand that rkhunter warnings and if they are drangeros
[00:29] <trism> phillyj: there should be a single line at the end with nvidia on it
[00:29] <trism> phillyj: maybe a couple
[00:29] <recurrent> Profeakti,  what about sudo apt-get install chkrootkit
[00:30] <Vbitz> what's the best guide for dual booting osx and ubuntu on a Macbook Pro 8,1
[00:31] <recurrent> i guess i dont know how to reply with xchat yet
[00:31] <phillyj> trism: well, theres a bunch of NVRM lines that say API mismatch: client has v 304.88 but kernal module has v310.14
[00:31] <trism> phillyj: ahh you have multiple versions installed
[00:31] <phillyj> trism: i think the v310.44 was the beta driver i installed before all this trouble
[00:31] <trism> phillyj: what do you see in: dkms status;
[00:31] <jenev> can someone tell me why CRDA is only being 'run' when I'm connecting to a secure network?
[00:32] <Profeakti> let me try recurrent
[00:32] <jenev> and it appears that the CRDA is screwing up the connection when trying to connect to a secure network
[00:32] <phillyj> trism: looks like 3 versions (3 lines)
[00:33] <jenev> is there anyway to disable CRDA?
[00:33] <trism> phillyj: well it may be several of the same version for different kernels, do you see different nvidia versions at the beginning of the lines?
[00:33] <guma> I have fresh setup server with two network cards both setup as dhcp. Each is plugged to different router. Is there a way to change which one ill be default gateway? I want my eth0 be default gateway it looks like eth1 always is default
[00:34] <phillyj> trism: 2 are the same beginning and the 3rd is different
[00:34] <Profeakti> i will go see if check rootkit detects something
[00:34] <phillyj> trism: maybe blacklist or remove the beta driver?
[00:35] <trism> phillyj: yeah you should probably remove it, did you install it from the repo? if so I would just apt-get purge it and then apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current;
[00:36] <trism> phillyj: you could: dpkg -l 'nvidia*'; to find the other package name
[00:36] <Profeakti> Recurrent i am a litle worried can you check  my  checkrootkit results
[00:36] <Profeakti> ?
[00:37] <recurrent> i might understand them
[00:37] <phillyj> Profeakti: you really don't need to worry about rootkits in linux
[00:37] <Scrivener> Is there supposed to be Firefox integration with unity? As in the window border and things. When I maximize firefox, it still uses its own border with its own exit/minmax buttons.
[00:38] <Scrivener> This is Ubuntu 13.04
[00:38] <Scrivener> Trying to do full-screen mode results in a bit of space where I see the wallpaper between the top of firefox and the Unity menu bar at the top.
[00:38] <Scrivener> It looks/feels really clunky
[00:39] <Profeakti> im coming from windows world and those tools gve me  peace on mind because i interact whith too much windows machines
[00:39] <phillyj> Profeakti: windows =/= linux
[00:40] <szymon_w> this is what I'm working on if anyone interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXf8OouVtHA
[00:41] <Profeakti> i know all are diferent but i will be less worrie if check this please  i put the chkrootkit results  on paste bin
[00:41] <Profeakti> take it as part of the period of transition
[00:41] <recurrent> Profeakti,  paste bin link?
[00:41] <Profeakti> yes
[00:42] <Profeakti> thats the results of chck rootkkit
[00:42] <Scrivener> He's asking you to give him a pastebin link
[00:42] <recurrent> put the link here in chat
[00:42] <Profeakti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5702021/
[00:42] <Profeakti> there are
[00:42] <Profeakti> sorry and hanks recurrent
[00:43] <phillyj> trism: thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!!
[00:43] <NLbubble>  Is there anyone on that feels like having an OTR conversation (testing jitsi)?
[00:43] <phillyj> trism: wasted 3 hrs on this
[00:43] <trism> phillyj: np, glad it's working now
[00:45] <thejoelhansen> Hi there - I'm having an issue with some email forwarding with my Ubuntu server. I've added a forward to /etc/aliases such as "bonk<EMAIL_ADDRESS>I ran newaliases. However, emails to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>just bounce as 'user not found'. I'm overlooking something. Is this a simple fix, or might anyone have any links to good articles on creating/ managing email accounts and such command line?
[00:45] <Profeakti> Thanks u too much  Recurrent
[00:46] <recurrent> Profeakti,  i dont not understand if that suspicious file is speculation
[00:46] <phillyj> Profeakti: it looks like part of your ATI display drivers
[00:46] <phillyj> am i right, recurrent?
[00:47] <recurrent> Profeakti,  i pass,  its beyond me
[00:48] <Profeakti> jjejeje  i dont understand yeah i have ati card
[00:48] <AndroUser> -_-#
[00:48] <phillyj> Profeakti: probably a false alarm
[00:49] <phillyj> Profeakti: for better results on this, i suggest joining a forum like ubuntuforums.org and posting there
[00:50] <JustBerry> ##justberry
[00:50] <Profeakti> thanks you phil i try to research on ubuntu forums but i see too divergent opinions
[00:51] <Profeakti> for that i still confused
[00:52] <Profeakti> what tools you recomend
[00:53] <GamersCorp> Hi there. I've been trying to install ubuntu on my new machine for about nine hours now. Link to a reddit thread with more information: http://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/1f1yew/booting_ubuntu_from_a_usb/
[00:53] <Profeakti> to have peace on mind in that period?
[00:53] <Dr_willis> reddit for tech support? You would be better off using the Forums, or askubuntu.com GamersCorp
[00:53] <acovrig> I can't get ffmpeg to work with mp3, I keep getting unknown encoder mp3 even though mp3 is listed in ffmpeg -formats
[00:53] <phillyj> Profeakti: i have peace of mind by switching to linux from windows; I can't reccomend a tool since it's not a top priority for me
[00:53] <GamersCorp> Dr_willis, I'm sure you're right. :P
[00:54] <Dr_willis> also sumarize the issue.. dont just post a link to a thread on it.
[00:54] <kubuntudisk> ok, could someone help me a lil - i dont know what happen. But my 3 computers out of no where are disk full. Baobab shows them as not using all the disk space, but the computer, df and desktop widget show them as full. I just expanded my 25gb drive to a 35gb, and upon reboot, it was full.
[00:54] <GamersCorp> Dr_willis, my apologies.
[00:54] <Profeakti> ii understand i will post on a forum
[00:54] <Dr_willis> kubuntudisk,  seen that happen with some log files constatly growing. (look in /var/log)
[00:55] <kubuntudisk> Dr_willis: k-= thanks.
[00:55] <Profeakti> as you sugest me
[00:55] <Dr_willis> kubuntudisk,   i saw one guy had some Xorg log, or other logs just filling up witn some error from some other problem a few weeks ago
[00:56] <phong_> hi all
[00:56] <JustBerry> ##justberry
[00:56] <JustBerry> Hi phong.
[00:56] <Rarrikins> kubuntudisk: Does df show it as having 25 GB or 35 GB?
[00:56] <acovrig> Dr_willis: happend to me as well (kernel/system log)
[00:56] <phong_> Vanadis_, u there?
[00:57] <kubuntudisk> Dr_willis: no, it says its only 22m. Rarrikins yes
[00:57] <phillyj> GamersCorp: are you trying to install on another USB or an HDD?
[00:57] <acovrig> kubuntudisk: Does du -sh /* give you any answers?
[00:57] <kubuntudisk> how can i make Df more specific
[00:57] <Dr_willis> kubuntudisk,  also seen  log files in the users home grow rappidly
[00:57] <GamersCorp> Phillyj, my goal is to install it onto a hard drive
[00:58] <Rarrikins> kubuntudisk: Use df -h
[00:58] <Rarrikins> kubuntudisk: It will tell you the size in G
[00:59] <kubuntudisk> Rarrikins: df -h doesnt show anything.
[01:00] <acovrig> Is there a ffmpeg/avconv flag to list a supported list for the -acodec flag?
[01:00] <Rarrikins> kubuntudisk: That's a problem
[01:01] <kubuntudisk> Rarrikins: i mean, it shows no different than the fact that its full
[01:01] <Rarrikins> kubuntudisk: What size does it say the disk is?
[01:02] <kubuntudisk> it shows the disk being 35 gig, but even with du - - im only counting up to about 25gb of space being used
[01:02] <kubuntudisk> im running onto the same problem with my laptop..
[01:02] <Rarrikins> kubuntudisk: Oh, OK
[01:02] <kubuntudisk> i am dl';ing a couplethings do a sepearete drive, and i keep getting disk full there too- and i KNOW thats empty aside from the couple files there.
[01:02] <kubuntudisk> sounds like a virus to me.. but- - ? a bit odd
[01:03] <Rarrikins> kubuntudisk: Then, the problem likely isn't with the disk (sometimes you have to tell it to resize it to get it to recognize the extra space), but with files.
[01:03] <Rarrikins> kubuntudisk: Did du -sh /* say anything was using a lot of space?
[01:03] <kubuntudisk> eh, usr has like 7gb..
[01:03] <kubuntudisk> var has 2
[01:04] <nezzario> Ok, I'm a little disoriented with everything here
[01:04] <Rarrikins> kubuntudisk: You can use du -sh /*|grep G
[01:04] <kubuntudisk> everything else is rather small
[01:04] <kubuntudisk> i put it out to a txt file..
[01:04] <kubuntudisk> not seeing much
[01:04] <nezzario> For one, NetworkManager keeps starting randomly and its killing my 'net connection.  It's really bothering me NetworkManager thinks it can handle my connection better than myself
[01:04] <nezzario> I did echo "manual" > /etc/init/network-manager
[01:05] <trism> nezzario: it would be: echo manual > /etc/init/network-manager.override;
[01:05] <Rarrikins> kubuntudisk: What about your home directory?
[01:05] <acovrig> nezzario: sudo service network-manager stop
[01:05] <trism> nezzario: the .override part is necessary
[01:05] <Rarrikins> kubuntudisk: du -sh ~/*
[01:05] <nezzario> err, i may of left out the .override part, i'll check
[01:05] <kubuntudisk> Rarrikins: home has 5 gig used..
[01:06] <James_Epp> Hey everyone. I am running Ubuntu 12.04.2 amd64 and have a Radeon HD 5670. I use HDMI to one monitor, and VGA through a KVM switch to another monitor. For some reason, my video shows up on my HDMI, but not the VGA. However, ubuntu detects the display in the Display settings. Rebooting, changing the resolution does nothing. Suggestions? (This was working no more than two days ago)
[01:06] <kubuntudisk> but its still not adding up to 35 gig
[01:06] <Doomtastic> I'm having difficulty with graphics stuff
[01:06] <nezzario> err yeah, my bad on that
[01:07] <nezzario> Ok second issue I'm having, I haven't tested this yet but I was just wondering if this is the best way to disable gdm/all graphical crap on boot: dpkg-divert  --rename --add /etc/init/gdm.conf
[01:07] <Doomtastic> Does anyone know how I should go about shudding down x-server so I can use the graphics driver installation/update thing without closing out all gui stuff?
[01:07] <tones> 12.04 on a usb through netbootin wouldn't boot...default splash screen then keeps retrying to start but doesnt
[01:08] <nezzario> This box will be used as a router/headless system 90% of the time, no need for gdm and other unnecessary stuff to be running .. but if I want a graphical interface, I can do so with startx or whatever
[01:08] <trism> nezzario: you could just add text to the kernel command line
[01:08] <James_Epp> Nevermind, turning off and on the display in settings worked. Weird, but true!
[01:08] <trism> nezzario: I know lightdm checks for that in lightdm.conf, I imagine gdm should too (though you could look and see)
[01:08] <acovrig> in /etc/default/grub (or defaults)
[01:09] <nezzario> by the way, xchat is really nice, on a random note ..
[01:09] <acovrig> nezzario: was that directed at me?
[01:09] <lomo6> well.. i changed the order of boot devices in bios but after installing ubuntu i can't boot from any usb.. why's that??
[01:10] <Doomtastic> I tried stopping lightdm, but it kicked me out of my gui when i did
[01:10] <Rarrikins> kubuntudisk: Perhaps try fsck -n /dev/whateveritiszomg
[01:10] <nezzario> no, just being silly.. first time i've booted into linux/gnome in forever.. i administer headless boxes at least 4 hours a day, but never deal with this 'other' side of linux :)
[01:10] <kubuntudisk> Rarrikins: Dr_willis is there a program or virus scanner i can use to scan the system and identify where the files are being used? - this is like a virus i had with windows bsack in the day..
[01:10] <Rarrikins> kubuntudisk: That will check the disk for errors without trying to fix them.
[01:11] <nezzario> but i didn't understand, i seen on serverfault that it said "newer" versions (of ubuntu) use lightdm by default .. it seems i'm using gdm, even though i'm using 13.04 ?
[01:11] <raax> In the 13.04 installer when manually creating a partition table, can I not make use of LVM? I want luks(lvm(swap, root, home)) but the default configuration does not suit my needs (it takes up all the disk space on my empty disk)
[01:11] <nezzario> it's not too relevant i'm just curious more than anything
[01:11] <acovrig> nezzario: yea, I spend a good deal of time via SSH, and don't feel like waiting for Xchat to load over X11 forwarding
[01:11] <trism> nezzario: are you using ubuntu-gnome? I think that defaults to gdm
[01:11] <trism> nezzario: though either way, gdm is in the repo, so you could have installed it for whatever reason
[01:12] <nezzario> yeah, i really am unfamiliar, I did a headless 100% base install via netinst, then just type apt-get install gnome and walked away for an hour (crappy connection)
[01:13] <trism> nezzario: ahh yeah that probably installed gnome-shell which would have installed gdm
[01:13] <tones> does unetbootin do a good job of installing ubuntu 13.04 ?
[01:14] <tones> because it's frozen on extracting files
[01:14] <kubuntudisk> Rarrikins: says clean
[01:14] <Rarrikins> kubuntudisk: Oh, good
[01:14] <nezzario> err, one really annoying thing, when ubuntu boots it has this thing very early in the boot process saying "Waiting for network configuration ..." .. then after half a lifetime, says "Waiting up to 60 more seconds for a network configuration .." and then after I popped another gray hair, finally proceeds with booting
[01:14] <trism> tones: it may not be frozen, it takes a while to extract the squashfs
[01:14] <nezzario> Where is that coming from / where do I disable it?
[01:15] <nezzario> I'm using wireless here and would prefer just to throw my script in rc.local and manage it totally myself
[01:15] <tones> trism, in the upper panel of unetbootin, choosing Ubunutu and "daily", is that an updated version of 13.04
[01:15] <tones> there is no daily release
[01:16] <trism> nezzario: that comes from failsafe.conf
[01:17] <lomo6> well.. i changed the order of boot devices in bios but after installing ubuntu i can't boot from any usb.. why's that??
[01:17] <trism> tones: daily would make me think it is fetching saucy, but i've never used it that way, I always download the iso and then use unetbootin
[01:17] <tones> lomo6, press "esc" to get into boot menu on startup
[01:18] <tones> trism, ok..does unetbootin work for you consistently?
[01:18] <trism> tones: usually works fine for me
[01:18] <tones> ok gonna reboot now to try 13.04
[01:20] <lomo6> tones: i can't see the usb there
[01:20] <lomo6> but in bios yes.
[01:22] <tones> boom that was quick ubuntu 13.04 now
[01:22] <Guest5963> Yo guys, I've got a /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found error. Know a fix?
[01:22] <nezzario> i'm not sure if this is OT or not so tell me to shut up if necessary .. adobe is going to stop releasing flash for linux?
[01:23] <tones> is there a way to increase the screen brightness in 13.04?
[01:23] <GamersCorp> Hi there, I've been having a problem with installing ubuntu via usb for about 8 hours now. Relevant thread: http://askubuntu.com/questions/300099/booting-from-usb-freezes-fails-to-install
[01:23] <lomo6> tones: i can't see the usb there
[01:23] <Rarrikins> kubuntudisk: Try: sudo du -k | sort -n | perl -ne 'if ( /^(\d+)\s+(.*$)/){$l=log($1+.1);$m=int($l/log(1024)); printf  ("%6.1f\t%s\t%25s  %s\n",($1/(2**(10*$m))),(("K","M","G","T","P")[$m]),"*"x (1.5*$l),$2);}'
[01:23] <lomo6> tones: but in bios yes.
[01:23] <Rarrikins> kubuntudisk: It will list all files on your system, sorted by size.
[01:24] <tones> lomo6, seems that it should show up on the boot menu with hdd and optical drive
[01:24] <Rarrikins> kubuntudisk: Just do `cd /` beforehand
[01:24] <tones> how old is your computer?
[01:25] <lomo6> tones: very new..
[01:25] <Guest5963> Hey guys, do you know how to fix the GRUB bug where it doesn't install all the way on 13.04?
[01:25] <lomo6> tones: asrock extreme4 970
[01:25] <lomo6> mb.
[01:26] <pavan> hi
[01:26] <Dr_willis> Guest55941,  use that boot-repair tool from a live cd. may work
[01:26] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub | Guest55941
[01:26]  * Dr_willis hopes they include boot-repair by default some time soon
[01:27] <pavan> do any of u program jav?
[01:27] <kubuntudisk> it identified a couple large files- but..
[01:27] <pavan> java
[01:27] <kubuntudisk> Rarrikins:
[01:27] <pavan>
[01:27] <kubuntudisk> Rarrikins: still not 35gigs
[01:27] <pavan>
[01:28] <pavan> cd /
[01:28] <pavan> ifconfig
[01:28] <pavan> javac helloworld.java
[01:28] <pavan> ipconfig /release
[01:28] <pavan>
[01:28] <pavan>
[01:28] <pavan>
[01:28] <FloodBot1> pavan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:29] <Dr_willis> pavan,  you may want to ask your actual question... theres is the  #java channel also.
[01:29] <Guest40666> In Ubuntu 13.04 Unity as well as Gnome version, my mouse pointer jumps up and down off and on making it very difficult to use the OS. Any suggestions? This problem has nothing to do with mouse or sensitivity settings as it is an involuntary movement of the mouse pointer
[01:29] <Rarrikins> kubuntudisk: Oh, I see. Sorry, I'm not sure how to fix it. You can try these: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[01:29] <Guest40666> I am using a Sony VAIO Laptop with a touch pad and an IBM Stick
[01:29] <kubuntudisk> Rarrikins: thanks..
[01:30] <pavan> #ubuntu Dr_willis!*@*
[01:30] <coreyo> is there a way to set the monitor layout (to something not mirrored) at the gdm login prompt without putting together an entire xorg.conf file?
[01:30] <Rarrikins> kubuntudisk: No problem.
[01:30] <pavan> i cant change mouse speed of trackpad
[01:30] <pavan> i change it and it changes back to default
[01:30] <pavan> in Ubuntu
[01:31] <Dr_willis> coreyo,  ages ago i recall a trick where you run the monitors/displays tool as the user 'gdm' and set up some settings that would get applied to the gdm login screen.. or there may be options in the gdm config files.
[01:31] <tones> just clicked on a unity panel and the screen became all vertical white lines, any suggestions?
[01:31] <tones> 13.04
[01:31] <tones> had to reboot
[01:31] <coreyo> Dr_willis, perhaps worth a shot
[01:32] <dingos> hi
[01:33] <dingos> i had linuxmint, and when i dropped my computer, it broke.
[01:33] <arielsanflo> I have a problem I need help for my website www.wix.com use and now I opened firefox html5 editor do not understand why
[01:33] <dingos> when i had ubuntu, it didn't break.
[01:34] <Guest69232> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 13 and I cannot use OpenJDK as a default application for openining java apps. Is this intentional or a bug? Every other app but Java shows up to set as default.
[01:34] <dingos> @Guest6969696969
[01:35] <raax> In the 13.04 installer when manually creating a partition table, can I not make use of LVM?
[01:38] <Omjihut> Hello all! I just installed ubuntu for the first time today and set up a webserver (php, apache2, phpmyadmin, etc...) and ran into a problem. My user doesnt have permission to write or modify files in the /var/www directory. Anybody know how to resolve this?
[01:39] <Dr_willis> Omjihut,  I belive you set the user to be in the proper GROUP and they can do that. I seem to recall several dozen questions identical to that on askubuntu.com
[01:39] <maui> video editing software for ubuntu?
[01:39] <Dr_willis> maui,  several in the repos.  Depends on what editing task you are doing
[01:39] <Dr_willis> !info avidemux
[01:39] <Dr_willis> !info kino
[01:39] <Omjihut> @Dr-willis I'll check out askubuntu.com. Thanks!
[01:40] <Dr_willis> !info openshot
[01:40] <Dr_willis> I bet theres more then those 3.. i just dont recall the names
[01:40] <Sorgrum> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 13 and I cannot use OpenJDK as a default application for openining java apps. Is this intentional or a bug? Every other app but Java shows up to set as default.
[01:41] <Dr_willis> Sorgrum,  you mean by 'double clicking a .jar' file?
[01:42] <GamersCorp> Eek, who was I talking to before?
[01:42] <maui> wow dr, must choose...
[01:42] <maui> thanks
[01:42] <phillyj> GamersCorp: me
[01:42] <Dr_willis> maui,  choose? Install them all.. not like they cost $$$
[01:42] <Sorgrum> Yes, when I right click it and choose 'open with' it allows me to set a default
[01:42] <Sorgrum> But Java does not appear
[01:42] <maui> is there one i can edit both sound alone, and if i want, video too, ?
[01:43] <Dr_willis> Sorgrum,  ive never had much luck with doubleclicking .jar files..
[01:43] <Sorgrum> It just opens the archive to view whats inside
[01:43] <Sorgrum> Is there no way to automatically execute it?
[01:44] <Dr_willis> Sorgrum,  ive seen people run .jar files via double clicking on them
[01:44] <Sorgrum> Any idea how?
[01:44] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/search?tab=votes&q=open%20java%20jar%20double%20click
[01:44] <Dr_willis> i bet askubuntu.com does..
[01:45] <Sorgrum> Thanks dude
[01:45] <Dr_willis> 'make sure the .jar' is executable.. seems a common issue
[01:46] <maui> screen recorder or stream grabber?
[01:46] <Dr_willis> some jar files may not like being ran that way. makeing a proper .desktop file or script to launch them would be a better idea
[01:46] <Dr_willis> maui,  the package manager tools have a 'search' feature that would show some that can do that.
[01:47] <Dr_willis> !info gtk-record-my-desktop
[01:47] <Sorgrum> Ahh Dr_willis that was the problem, in all the solutions on askubuntu OpenJDK shows up as an application, it does not show in my list of applications
[01:47] <Dr_willis> i cant recall its name
[01:47] <maui> u mean the ubuntu software center
[01:47] <Dr_willis> maui,  that IS one of many front ends to the package manager system  that Ubuntu uses
[01:47] <Sorgrum> maui I think he means something like apt-get or aptitude
[01:48] <maui> i get all the software from the 'ubuntu center',
[01:48] <Dr_willis> software-center has a search feature. ;) as does   the cli tools. and synaptics
[01:48] <maui> is there a website with far more software and reviews for them?
[01:48] <Dr_willis> all the front ends -  get software from the same sources
[01:48] <Dr_willis> !ppa | maui
[01:48] <maui> ok i see
[01:48] <Dr_willis> its best to stick to the software center tools.
[01:49] <maui> thanks a lot guys
[01:51] <Sorgrum> I've been having another problem on 13.04 where the unity and application switcher thing do not appear
[01:52] <Sorgrum> When I press alt + tab it still works but the icons don't show up
[01:53] <arielsanflo> please help I can not open in firefox www.wix.com editor of my website and view the page
[01:54] <Sorgrum> arielsanflo: The operating system you are using should affect that
[01:54] <Sorgrum> arielsanflo: Ill give it a shot, one sec
[01:55] <arielsanflo> my english is sou sou
[01:55] <OutLaw> any 1 know how to set up eggdrop irc bot on ubuntu 10.04
[01:55] <Sorgrum> arielsanflo: I will try to see if it works for me
[01:55] <Sorgrum> arielsanflo: Which language?
[01:56] <Dr_willis> OutLaw,  find a deb for it. or compile from source. install.. run it.. read the docs for it  and confoigure it.
[01:56] <jrib> OutLaw: are you using 10.04 desktop?
[01:56] <Dr_willis> id imagine any eggdrop  in the repos may be quit old for 10.04
[01:57] <arielsanflo> hatml5
[01:57] <OutLaw> i got all of it dun but it says * Please make sure you edit your config file completely.
[01:57] <OutLaw> master@master-laptop:~/botdir$
[01:57] <arielsanflo> html5
[01:57] <arielsanflo> ubuntu 13.04
[01:57] <OutLaw> yes 10.04
[01:57] <Dr_willis> OutLaw,   so you make/edit the config files?
[01:57] <arielsanflo> Linux arielsanflo-Satellite-L505 3.5.0-22-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 8 21:47:00 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:58] <Sorgrum> arielsanflo: It's working fine for me
[01:58] <OutLaw> i made them i dont know to config it to make it start
[01:58] <Dr_willis> OutLaw,  you mean start at bootup?
[01:58] <Dr_willis> or just start when you want it to?
[01:59] <Sorgrum> arielsanflo: Anything in particular not working? Is it loading the editor at least?
[01:59] <snypzz> hello all
[01:59] <Sorgrum> Welcome
[01:59] <arielsanflo> I can not open the page in html5 nor the publisher wix
[01:59] <arielsanflo> I get the following error in firefox
[01:59] <OutLaw> Installation completed.
[01:59] <OutLaw> You MUST ensure that you edit/verify your configuration file.
[01:59] <OutLaw> An example configuration file, eggdrop.conf, is distributed with Eggdrop.
[01:59] <OutLaw> Remember to change directory to /home/master/botdir before you proceed.
[01:59] <FloodBot1> OutLaw: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:00] <OutLaw> ok
[02:00] <Dr_willis> OutLaw,  so find that eggdrop.conf file and edit it as needed and put it in the proper place for your eggdrop to read
[02:00] <snypzz> need help installing virtualbox on ubuntu 13.04
[02:00] <snypzz> not working
[02:00] <Sorgrum> What isnt?
[02:01] <arielsanflo> not the editor does not load and the page is blank
[02:01] <rmobenchain> just did a "fsck " command in terminal.  when I reboot the computer, do I need to take my USB out?  I'm using it for the LIVE CD
[02:01] <OutLaw> trying
[02:01] <recurrent> i think i may install Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty Warthog)
[02:01] <Dr_willis> quick google search - eggdrop irc tutorial -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YdsjoOal84
[02:01] <Dr_willis> recurrent,  what does 'lsb_release -a' say?
[02:01] <Dr_willis> recurrent, i missread what you said. heh..
[02:02] <Dr_willis> !vbox | snypzz
[02:02] <Sorgrum> arielsanflo: What version of Firefox?
[02:02] <Dr_willis> had somein here the other day wanting support for  6.x or was it earlier.. :)
[02:02] <recurrent> heh
[02:03] <arielsanflo> 22.0
[02:03] <arielsanflo> find thanks
[02:03] <arielsanflo> sorgrum
[02:03] <snypzz> installed virtualbox and gnome-system-tools
[02:03] <Sorgrum> arielsanflo: Yes?
[02:03] <Doomtastic> Trouble with nvidia drivers
[02:03] <snypzz> still not launching
[02:04] <arielsanflo> mi english is sou sou
[02:04] <arielsanflo> i am from colombia
[02:04] <Sorgrum> arielsanflo: Yo puedo hablar espanol
[02:04] <arielsanflo> thanks help
[02:04] <arielsanflo> gracias
[02:04] <arielsanflo> por su ayuda
[02:04] <Sorgrum> arielsanflo: Encontractes un solucion?
[02:04] <snypzz> also not detecting my  USB ASUS  53
[02:04] <OutLaw> going to youtube for a min. thanks
[02:04] <arielsanflo> no
[02:05] <arielsanflo> agradezco tu ayuda por favor
[02:05] <Sorgrum> arielsanflo: De nada
[02:05] <arielsanflo> puedes entral al canal en español
[02:06] <arielsanflo> para no general polemicas
[02:06] <rmobenchain> Needing to know if I need to remove my USB when I reboot my computer.  Just did a fsck in the terminal to check if I have errors on my hard drive
[02:06] <arielsanflo> #ubuntu-es
[02:06] <Sorgrum> ok
[02:07] <phillyj> rmobenchain: is that a question? i don't think it is a problem
[02:08] <rmobenchain> phillyj:  I keep getting an Input/Output errror read on /dev/sda message when trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 on my computer
[02:09] <phillyj> rmobenchain: corrupted usb maybe?
[02:10] <rmobenchain> phillyj:  I had an IT buddy do a bootable USB and burned the ISO onto a disk.  I get the same message reagardless of media device to install
[02:11] <[deXter]> rmobenchain, looks like the ISO could be corrupt, can you check its MD5SUM?
[02:11] <rmobenchain> dexter: how do I do that?  I'm a newb here :/
[02:11] <[deXter]> rmobenchain, what OS are you on currently?
[02:12] <rmobenchain> dexter: none.  nothing will boot up w/o me using the LIVE CD
[02:12] <rmobenchain> which is why I believe I have some corrupted areas of my hard drive
[02:12] <[deXter]> rmobenchain, ah if the live CD is working fine then yeah best to run diagnostics on your hdd
[02:13] <[deXter]> go to your hdd manufacturer's website and download their diagnostics software
[02:13] <[deXter]> you'll have to write it to a CD or make a bootable USB
[02:14] <tones> what's the easiest way to install gnome on 13.04
[02:14] <rmobenchain> dexter: that was recommended earlier by someone, which is why I did the "fsck" in the terminal.  now I'm just needing to know if I should take the USB out when I reboot the computer
[02:15] <[deXter]> tones, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/gnome-3-8-ppa-for-ubuntu-gnome
[02:15] <rmobenchain> oops... didn't see your earlier message before mine dexter.  sorry
[02:16] <tones> dexter, I saw the link after I asked thanks
[02:20] <James_Epp> I have a pxe set up to boot 12.04.2 desktop installs over the network. When a client finishes booting and has reached the desktop, under the network manager, it says the device is not managed. This remains after completing the installation. Why is this occurring?
[02:21] <randallpinkfloyd> how do i find hard drive manufacturer info via terminal?
[02:21] <nezzario> this is unusual still
[02:22] <nezzario> so, i got it where gdm doesn't start on boot after some weirdness (not 100% sure it's actually working, I had to kill the power after the first try, tried again and it worked, dunno)
[02:22] <nezzario> but, when I use startx as root, it loads gnome fine as I expected.. as my normal user, it doesn't load any window manager, and I can't run gnome-session, complains about a message bus
[02:23] <nezzario> session bus.  not message bus
[02:28] <randallpinkfloyd> !nick rmobenchain
[02:28] <randallpinkfloyd> fooey
[02:28] <somsip> randallpinkfloyd: sudo lshw will give you all the hardware info
[02:28] <randallpinkfloyd> thanks somsip
[02:29] <somsip> randallpinkfloyd: and !who was the one you wanted maybe?
[02:29] <randallpinkfloyd> somsip: was trying to change nick... lol
[02:29] <somsip> randallpinkfloyd: ok, /nick or !register then
[02:29] <nezzario> going to try to reboot i think i need to copy some kinda .xinitrc file over..
[02:31] <mdih> !register
[02:33] <llldino> Hey guys, i'm having issues booting after grub, I can't replecate the issue, any ideas?
[02:34] <Chris_W_> anyone have any experience with NFS?
[02:37] <Auctus> is there an easy way to hide the menu bar (the one at the top of the screen with the power button/etc)?
[02:38] <James_Epp> Chris_W_: I have a bit. What's up?
[02:39] <Chris_W_> James_Epp: Im having an issue where some folders aren't available.
[02:39] <James_Epp> Chris_W_: First things first, did you restart the service after changing /etc/exports ?
[02:40] <Chris_W_> James_Epp: I've exported /mnt/      my media files are stored on /mnt/sdb1/media/
[02:40] <Chris_W_> James_Epp: Yes
[02:40] <Chris_W_> James_Epp: The farthest I can go is /mnt/sdb1/  and then it looks empty
[02:40] <James_Epp> Chris_W_: Tell me the line you added to /etc/exports
[02:41] <Chris_W_> /mnt/  <IP_ADDRESS>9(rw)
[02:41] <Chris_W_> /mnt/  <IP_ADDRESS>(rw)
[02:41] <James_Epp> I myself have never attempted to do nfs into a separate drive, but if you give me 5m I can experiment on my end.
[02:42] <Chris_W_> James_Epp: I'd really appreciate that
[02:42] <Dr_willis> the permissions need to be correct on /mnt/ i imagine
[02:42] <Dr_willis> its a bit odd exporting /mnt/ or /media/  over nfs i imagine.
[02:42] <Chris_W_> ?
[02:42] <Dr_willis> !nfs
[02:42] <Dr_willis> test with a  simple dirctory first  like /shareplace/   and see if that works first
[02:42] <Chris_W_> Why ids that odd?
[02:42] <James_Epp> Dr_willis: That is what I was thinking, too
[02:43] <Chris_W_> Ive tested with /home/ and it works fine
[02:43] <Dr_willis> Because using NFS for  dynamic mount poiints is a little  unusual
[02:43] <Dr_willis>  and it may 'lock' your mounted stuff and not let it get unmountd. and NFS i recall wnts specific permissions on its shares
[02:43] <Chris_W_> Im not sure what you mean by that.
[02:44] <Dr_willis> what do i mean by what....
[02:44] <Dr_willis> NFS is picky.. :)
[02:44] <Chris_W_> /mnt/sdb1/  isn't what i would consider dynamic.  its an attached hdd
[02:44] <James_Epp> I have only used NFS for pxe booting with much failure, so I cannot claim to know much.
[02:45] <Chris_W_> Ok, well, here's my situation.   I have too computers running Ubuntu server, both connected to the local network.  How do i share files between them?
[02:45] <Chris_W_> CIFS is slow as shit with large files
[02:46] <Chris_W_> CIFS tops out at 12megs/sec
[02:46] <Dr_willis> Chris_W_,   ive used samba, nfs, sshfs, it depends on what i am doing and shareing
[02:46] <James_Epp> Chris_W_: If you are on a 10/100 network, I would not expect more than that regardless of the protocol.
[02:47] <Chris_W_> the who network is gigabyte
[02:47] <Chris_W_> whole
[02:48] <James_Epp> I do not know what to suggest for your situation.
[02:48] <Chris_W_> Between windows machines ive seen 60 meg/sec transfers
[02:48] <James_Epp> But that is only because of my limited experience.
[02:48] <Dr_willis> If one share works. other does not.. i would check the permissions and ownership of the mountpoints
[02:49] <Dr_willis> and of the owner/permissions of the 'sdb1' after its mounted.
[02:49] <Chris_W_> where would I start with that?
[02:49] <Dr_willis> look at the permissions of a share that works..   then mount your drive.. and check the permissions of its mountpoint AFTER its mounted
[02:49] <Chris_W_> im the only user, so i'd imagine its either root or chris
[02:52] <Chris_W_> drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 Apr 22 14:45 /mnt/fileserver/mnt/sdb1/
[02:53] <Dr_willis> thats sort of a weird mountpoint
[02:53] <Dr_willis> you need to check the permissions and owner of all the parent dirctories also i imagine
[02:53] <Dr_willis> thats the permissions AFTER you have it mounted right?
[02:54] <Chris_W_> yes
[02:54] <Chris_W_> its the same output for /mnt
[02:54] <JustBerry> Hm
[02:54] <JustBerry> No....
[02:55] <Dr_willis> check all the directories down to sdb1
[02:55] <Chris_W_> they're all the same
[02:55] <Dr_willis> and your other share that works has what permissions?
[02:56] <Dr_willis> It could be NFS is  not liking those very very open permissions  (those dirs look to be 777 to me)
[02:56] <Chris_W_> drwxrwxrwx 3 root root 4096 Apr 22 14:11 /home/
[02:56] <Chris_W_> they are.
[02:57] <Chris_W_> but NFS works with the same permissions on other folders
[02:57] <moses> how do i format a drive using a live CD?
[02:58] <Chris_W_> moses gparted
[02:59] <moses> wait
[02:59] <moses> I installed ubuntu on this drive
[02:59] <moses> and when i boot to it
[02:59] <moses> it asks for the cd
[02:59] <moses> i dont get it
[02:59] <moses> what did i do wrong?
[02:59] <FloodBot1> moses: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:59] <Dr_willis> moses,  give us exact detailas as to what you mean
[03:00] <CM721F> Is rmmod permanent or does it come back on reboot?
[03:00] <moses> So i ran the live CD I selected the installation
[03:00] <Dr_willis> moses,  if you mean it asks for the cd when yoy try to INSTALL somthing..  then remove the cdrom from your 'sources' for software - via the software-sources tool
[03:00] <Dr_willis> CM721F,  its not permenet
[03:00] <Dr_willis> !blacklist
[03:00] <moses> how do i do that on a clean install to ubuntu?
[03:01] <Dr_willis> moses,   via the 'software-sources' tool in the menus under software-center, or its a stand alone tool
[03:01] <Dr_willis> !repos | moses
[03:01] <moses> I cant boot to the OS though
[03:01] <Dr_willis> moses,  then you really really need to clarify what the problem is..
[03:01] <CM721F> Dr_willis: Thanks.
[03:01] <ObrienDave> moses: did you remove the CD after installation?
[03:01] <moses> it just says Loading Operating System ... then on the next line it says boot from CD/DVD:
[03:02] <Dr_willis> moses,  and how did you make the cd?
[03:02] <bity> moses: still trying to recover that drive ?
[03:02] <moses> bity: no i got that
[03:02] <bity> moses: trying to install now?
[03:02] <moses> now im trying to install ubuntu to a different drive
[03:02] <moses> yes
[03:03] <moses> I ran the install procedure but apparently it didnt work
[03:03] <bity> how new is it?
[03:03] <moses> it requests Boot from CD/DVD when i try to boot the drive
[03:03] <bity> which version did you use?
[03:03] <moses> how new is what?
[03:03] <moses> 12.04
[03:03] <bity> the computer
[03:03] <moses> the drive is old
[03:03] <moses> and the computer is decently new
[03:03] <ObrienDave> HOW new
[03:03] <bity> since 2010?
[03:03] <moses> possibly
[03:03] <moses> maybe right before
[03:04] <bity> could it be uefi issues?
[03:04] <moses> I doubt it
[03:04] <bity> what happens when you boot from livecd and mount the drive?
[03:05] <Dr_willis> he cant get a live cd to boot - seems to be the core of the issue
[03:05] <moses> the filesystem shows up
[03:05] <moses> no
[03:05] <moses> i got the live cd to boot
[03:05] <ObrienDave> moses: is this a virgin drive or partitioned with win8 on it
[03:05] <Dr_willis> then im totally missing on what error is showing when and what state you are in.
[03:05] <moses> this had grubb on it and a windows and an old ubuntu partition on it
[03:06] <moses> I was trying to boot to the drive after I had installed ubuntu to it
[03:06] <moses> and it wouldnt boot up
[03:06] <moses> it would ask for he cd
[03:06] <Dr_willis> If its refuseing to boot the Hard drive.. then double check the bios to make sure the HD is in the boot order.
[03:06] <moses> i moved it to the top of the boot order
[03:06] <moses> before i booted to it
[03:06] <Dr_willis> disable the cd in the bios if you want to be hardcore about it
[03:06] <moses> ok
[03:06] <ObrienDave> for now anyway
[03:06] <Dr_willis> the HD is plugged directly into the PC/mb? and not on some ectra controller card?
[03:07] <moses> its direct
[03:08] <ObrienDave> BIOS should still sense no CD in drive
[03:08] <moses> Now it just says Loading Operating  System ...
[03:08] <moses> and waiting
[03:08] <moses> After I have disabled the cd
[03:08] <ObrienDave> give it a minute or so
[03:08] <moses> ok
[03:09] <moses> i hope i didnt ruin it by hitting ctrl alt delete so many times
[03:09] <nezzario> k
[03:09] <nezzario> now i'm really confused ..
[03:09] <ObrienDave> naa, that's a bios key combination
[03:09] <Dr_willis> nezzario,  ;^) thats normal for this channel
[03:09] <bity> lol
[03:10] <James_Epp> any assistance on this thread would be appreciated. Lots of weird PxE stuff. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2148604
[03:10] <moses> is waiting like this part of the setup?
[03:10] <nezzario> I'm trying to use myself as a bridge between a wifi access point
[03:10] <ObrienDave> PFFFFFT!
[03:10] <twig11> After installing Xubuntu Desktop on a standard Ubuntu install and logging into XFCE, my Unity desktop background has been replaced with a blank white background. By going into dconf-editor to org>gnome>Desktop>background and unchecking show-desktop-icons, I can restore the desktop background but, naturally, lose the icons. How can I reset the Unity desktop to its original behavior?
[03:10] <nezzario> so it's (ap) <-> (ubuntu) <-> (dd-wrt)
[03:10] <ObrienDave> moses, should not take more than 30 sec to logon screen
[03:10] <nezzario> i could just use another usb AP instead of the dd-wrt but i just do not have another usb one ..
[03:11] <moses> something is wrong then :(
[03:11] <James_Epp> moses: are you using a KVM switch?
[03:11] <nezzario> does anyone have a decent tutorial for this?  because i'm really confused in the aspect of who gets what IP address
[03:11] <James_Epp> I have had that issue with mine before.
[03:11] <bity> moses, do you need to keep that drive multi booting?
[03:11] <veggiecannibal> Ok. My friend here, nicole_, is a relative newbie. She's having a problem as her IP is clashing with another IP on the network. I haven't used Ubuntu in 5 years and no longer know how to make sure that the wireless card is set properly to get a dynamic IP. I'm not sure if her router is not assigning IPs right or if her computer is assuming an in-use local IP. This is probably chinese to her though. Can someone walk her through?
[03:11] <moses> No I want just ubuntu on that drive now
[03:11] <dragonflame> hi, i'm downloading a torrent with Transmission. How can "move" the torrenting job over to Deluge?
[03:11] <bity> ok
[03:11] <twig11> I should clarify regarding my post above that I understand the difference between XFCE and Unity. I'm having trouble with the Unity desktop wallpaper AFTER logging out of xubuntu and back into Unity.
[03:11] <bity> i would say wipe it and start over
[03:12] <bity> so it reinstalls the mbr
[03:12] <moses> so use the live cd to format the drive?
[03:12] <moses> then reboot and use the livecd to install ubuntu right?
[03:14] <ObrienDave> veggiecannibal, the router should be set to distribute dhcp to her network
[03:15] <ObrienDave> veggiecannibal, dynamic IP is handled by the ISP
[03:15] <bity> moses, yes
[03:16] <veggiecannibal> ObrienDave: Local IP, from a router
[03:16] <bity> 1 second
[03:16] <ObrienDave> veggiecannibal, yes, that is handled by setting the router for dhcp
[03:16] <veggiecannibal> ObrienDave: It could either be an issue with the router not assigning IPs properly, or it could be that her network card is set to an IP (e.g. <IP_ADDRESS>) that the router already assigned to someone else
[03:16] <bity> anyone know what it is to hit during the boot to go into advanced install
[03:17] <ObrienDave> veggiecannibal, the router assigns IPs to the devices on the network
[03:17] <bity> i think its f4 on ubuntu-server
[03:18] <ObrienDave> veggiecannibal, or, the router has NOT been allowed to assign enough addresses. how many on network?
[03:18] <twig11> veggiecannibal, are you asking how to check if her machine is set up to accept a dynamic ip from the router?
[03:18] <veggiecannibal> twig11: exactly
[03:18] <nicole_> hi ObrienDave i'm the friend of veggiecannibal thats having the IP problems
[03:18] <ObrienDave> greetings
[03:18] <bity> moses, when you restart the machine, and it starts to load ubuntu hit F4
[03:19] <bity> it will take you into the setup without running livecd
[03:19] <veggiecannibal> ObrienDave: 3. That means the router is either set to only assign 2 IPs on DHCP, or one machine is set to a static IP
[03:19] <ObrienDave> AFAIK there is no setting at the computer to check for static IPs. that is all handled by the router
[03:19] <moses> I ran the livecd and I am having trouble deleting these partitions
[03:19] <moses> I think they are mounted somehow
[03:20] <ObrienDave> veggiecannibal, yes, i would check IP assignment range first
[03:20] <ObrienDave> veggiecannibal, what brand and model of router?
[03:20] <veggiecannibal> ObrienDave: but an assignment range of 2 is a little bit unlikely.
[03:20] <bity> try to remove the partitions and wipe it and do a fresh install
[03:21] <veggiecannibal> nicole_: What kind of router do you have?
[03:21] <ObrienDave> veggiecannibal, i've seen it *rolls eyes*
[03:21] <moses> it has like locked things
[03:21] <veggiecannibal> ObrienDave: I think I may have set up this router back in the day and I wouldn't have been that stupid
[03:21] <moses> things with keys next to them
[03:21] <moses> linux partitions that I want to delete but cant
[03:21] <veggiecannibal> ObrienDave: but you are right
[03:21] <moses> I dont know how to unlock these
[03:21] <ObrienDave> veggiecannibal, not implying that you did or are :)
[03:21] <Dr_willis> gparted has a  menu item to UNMOUNT the partitions
[03:22] <Dr_willis> or right click on them in the file manage and unmount them
[03:22] <moses> it comes up grey
[03:22] <moses> one says extended and one says linux sqap
[03:22] <veggiecannibal> ObrienDave: I know, you have no way of knowing I set up the router.
[03:22] <moses> linux swap
[03:22] <moses> under file systems
[03:22] <ObrienDave> veggiecannibal, no prob
[03:23] <nicole_> its a belkin router and i think Obrian is right about the 2 IPs because i can be on the internet and have the desktop on as well but my dad and i cant be on at the same time because we occupy the same IP address
[03:23] <ObrienDave> nicole_, what kind of router?
[03:23] <bity> are you booted into the livecd right now?
[03:23] <moses> yes sir
[03:24] <moses> nvm
[03:24] <bity> restart and hit f4 before it boots
[03:24] <moses> i had to select swap off
[03:24] <moses> before I could delete it
[03:24] <qin> display? unity
[03:24] <nicole_> ObrienDave: its a belkin router
[03:24] <ObrienDave> nicole_, veggiecannibal , that is a very simple way of keeping outsiders off your ISP
[03:24] <moses> does the live cd have a disk checker and repair by any chance?
[03:25] <bity> yes
[03:25] <ObrienDave> nicole_, can you get to the setup screen of the router?
[03:25] <bity> there s a disk checker when you hit f4
[03:25] <moses> ok
[03:25] <moses> when should i hit F4?
[03:26] <nicole_> ObrienDave: i have no idea how to get to that
[03:26] <bity> after bios, after the ubuntu first starts
[03:26] <bity> when it shows the keyboard
[03:26] <bity> icon
[03:26] <moses> ok
[03:26] <qin> how do i move pointer between displays in unity?
[03:26] <bity> it will take you to a sub menu
[03:26] <ObrienDave> nicole_, open a browser, type <IP_ADDRESS> in the address bar
[03:26] <Dr_willis> a little MAN=Keyboard  - i think you hit space when you see that.. it shows all the options
[03:26] <moses> sweet
[03:26] <moses> ty
[03:26] <bity> if you do the install from here
[03:26] <ObrienDave> nicole_, you might have to try different numbers for the last 2.
[03:27] <Dr_willis> qin,  using dual monoitors and a X server on each monitor?
[03:27] <bity> you can rewrite the drive how you want
[03:27] <ObrienDave> nicole_, not sure about your router
[03:27] <moses> how do i know which disk it is checking?
[03:27] <nezzario> hmmm
[03:27] <veggiecannibal> ObrienDave: Not always. It will, however, always be the default gateway number from ifconfig
[03:27] <nezzario> brb again..
[03:27] <qin> Dr_willis: two displays, one x
[03:28] <Dr_willis> qin,  hmm.. i just mouse over to the side and it goes to the extended desktop on the next monitor.
[03:28] <Dr_willis> qin,  what video chipset?
[03:28] <ObrienDave> veggiecannibal, what i mean is, if you know you only have 2 devices in the house, assigning 2 addresses keeps everyone else off your ISP
[03:28] <qin> Dr_willis: did it 5 minutes ago via panel, but now even right click is off; VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler [Radeon HD 6320]
[03:30] <ObrienDave> veggiecannibal, *ISP connection
[03:30] <ObrienDave> nicole_, did you get to the router screen?
[03:31] <moses> does linux ever format drives?
[03:31] <moses> or only deletes stuff?
[03:31] <nicole_> ObrienDave: no i typed the number in firefox and it timed out but i did the ifconfig in the terminal window
[03:31] <twig11> My desktop wallpaper in Unity does not show up since adding XFCE to my system. Instead I'm getting a blank white background no matter what I do.  How can I reset Unity to display the desktop wallpaper and icons as it does by default?
[03:31] <Dr_willis> You can easially delete partions and format FILESYSTEMS  with the differnt linux tools
[03:31] <Dr_willis> You partition a drive, and format the filesystem onto the partition
[03:32] <Dr_willis> the installer should also be able to partion the hd as needed if you use the 'Somthing else....' item
[03:32] <ObrienDave> nicole_, try <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:33] <ObrienDave> nicole_, afaik you have to set range from the router interface. not really sure
[03:33] <reddeath68> need some help getting ndiswrapper working on newly upgraded ersion of ubuntu 13.04
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> twig11, there has been a changing reset cli for unity, take a look here. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04
[03:34] <ObrienDave> nicole_, what is the model number for the router?
[03:35] <nicole_> ObrienDave: F5D9230-4
[03:36] <ObrienDave> nicole_, if the address timed out, it is not the correct one
[03:36] <ObrienDave> ok hang on
[03:36] <reddeath68> need some help getting ndiswrapper working on newly upgraded ersion of ubuntu 13.04
[03:37] <nicole_> ObrienDave: then apparently all 3  addresses aren't right because they all timed out
[03:37] <ObrienDave> nicole_, try <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:37] <reddeath68> when i run modprobe ndiswrapper i get the following output ERROR: could not insert 'ndiswrapper': Exec format error
[03:38] <reddeath68> I am new to ubuntu for the most part and need some help
[03:38] <JustBerry> With?
[03:38] <Dr_willis> !manualk
[03:38] <Dr_willis> !manual
[03:38] <nicole_> ObrienDave: ok that one worked i have the router screen now
[03:39] <reddeath68> I can surf the web and such I mean the more under the hood like terminal and such for fixzing things such as my current program problem
[03:39] <yuangu> ^_^
[03:39] <ObrienDave> nicole_, cool! hit logon at the top, leave password blank, hit submit
[03:40] <yuangu> me too
[03:40] <nicole_> ObrienDave: ok i'm logged in
[03:41] <ObrienDave> nicole_, great, look for "connection type". set dynamic
[03:41] <yuangu> ^_^
[03:42] <twig11> wilee-nilee: will try that, thanks.
[03:42] <ObrienDave> nicole_, was there a "V" number on the router somewhere?
[03:42] <reddeath68> so any idea how to fix my modprobe ndis wrapper problem?
[03:43] <ObrienDave> nicole_, V2000, V3000, V4000? something like that
[03:44] <nicole_> ObrienDave: theres a ver. 5000 number
[03:44] <ObrienDave> cool! brb
[03:44] <k0d3g3ar> my dog has fleas
[03:44] <yuangu> hi,what is modprobe ndis?
[03:45] <ffonseca> hello!
[03:45] <ObrienDave> nicole_, i'm going to open a private chat window. hang on
[03:45] <reddeath68> its a command I am running since the install directions in the ndiswrapper archive i downloaded said too
[03:45] <ffonseca> has anyone installed ubuntu 13.04 on Macbook Air?
[03:46] <yuangu> me .install xubuntu13.04 in my virtualbox
[03:46] <yuangu> ^_^
[03:46] <ffonseca> i meant as the main OS
[03:47] <yuangu> but , the macos may to use to devepment ios app
[03:48] <yuangu> ^_^
[03:52] <yuangu> what the page of sbcglobal.net?
[03:54] <reddeath68> when i run modprobe ndiswrapper i get the following output ERROR: could not insert 'ndiswrapper': Exec format error zany ideas?
[03:57] <rotham> hey whats up.. anyone know if theres a go 1.1 package for ubuntu
[03:58] <rotham> ubuntu 12.04
[03:58] <noiro> anyone know why I can't drag files into any archive?
[03:58] <noiro> I get an error no matter the archive or file
[03:58] <Dr_willis> rotham,   'go' ? what sort of app is 'go' ?
[03:58] <Dr_willis> !info go
[03:58] <rotham> golang
[03:58] <rotham> sorry
[03:58] <Dr_willis> !info golang
[03:59] <nezzario> reddeath68, i'm a little cloudy headed at the moment but is there a file called 'ndiswrapper' in the directory you're working with?
[03:59] <Dr_willis> there might be ppa's for it for older ubuntu. or you can compile it from source/build your own
[03:59] <econdudeawesome> Hey yall. How to bring grub up at reboot?
[03:59] <nezzario> possible simple issue
[03:59] <Dr_willis> econdudeawesome,  if its hidden by default HOLD SHIFT
[03:59] <Dr_willis> or set it to not auto hide
[04:00] <reddeath68> yes
[04:00] <econdudeawesome> Dr_willis: exactly what I was looking for. Thanks. Had a brain fart
[04:00] <three18ti> so riddle me this, I use cfdisk to create a new partition /dev/sdb2, and when I run fdisk -l I see /dev/sdb2, however, when I run mkfs or I ls /dev/sdb* I only see sdb and sdb1.  how do I get the os to recognize the new disk without rebooting?
[04:01] <three18ti> rather, the new partition.
[04:01] <Dr_willis> three18ti,  theres some command to make the kernel 'rescan' the partions.. but i cant recall its name
[04:01] <Dr_willis> fdisk often mentions it after you edit partions..
[04:01] <Dr_willis> resync perhaps?
[04:01] <Dr_willis> 'resync'
[04:01] <Dr_willis> one of those commands you use once a year. ;)
[04:02] <reddeath68> ill be checking back every few mins but in say 20 mins or so I have to go to bed for work mighbt have to fix my problem tommarrow
[04:03] <three18ti> yea, exactly. thanks Dr_willis
[04:03] <three18ti> partprobe
[04:04]  * Dr_willis dont like things probeing my parts... ;P
[04:04] <noiro> anyone know why I can't drag files into any archive?
[04:04] <Dr_willis> noiro,  give us details of what you are doing exactly and we may figture it out
[04:05] <noiro> Dr_willis, I'm in gnome-shell and let's say I make a .jar of two files. If I drag another file into the .jar, it throws an error. Most tell me I'm supposed to be able to to this (and I need to for what I plan to do in the future)
[04:06] <Dr_willis> open the jar file in the archive manager tool.. and drag/drop the file into it that way perhaps?
[04:06] <Dr_willis> I dont use jar files as 'archives'  ;) i normally use zip/tgz/bz2
[04:06] <noiro> I do, I get a popup saying "An error has occurred", not even specifics on what error
[04:06] <Dr_willis> I dont mess with jars. so no idea on jars.
[04:06] <noiro> Dr_willis, I'm trying to do Minecraft modding, so the jar I'm dropping into is the MC jar. I just get the error with any jar
[04:07] <noiro> Same error with .zips as well. :P
[04:07] <Dr_willis> there are othe archive manager guis in the repos also
[04:07] <Dr_willis> 'mc' can also access contents of arvhives.
[04:07] <noiro> Can you give me a suggestion of a good one?
[04:07] <Dr_willis> and by mc - i mean Midnight commander
[04:07] <Dr_willis> !info mc
[04:08] <kb8wlu> how come ubuntu has problems with nvidia graphics cards?
[04:08] <Dr_willis> if it just adding a file.. there may be cli tools.
[04:08] <Dr_willis> kb8wlu,  due to nvidia not really careing about Linux. I have no issues with my slightly old (2 yr old) nvidia cards.
[04:09] <kb8wlu> I am running a nvidia gtx680 getting errors so fast at boot up cant see them
[04:09] <noiro> I'm running a GTX560, and it runs fine
[04:09] <kb8wlu> how can i see those errors?
[04:10] <betrayd> kb8wlu you can pause the boot message screen with Scroll Lock in text moe...
[04:11] <kb8wlu> dr willis are you really a doctor?
[04:11] <betrayd> mode* ^
[04:11] <giau> hi
[04:11] <kb8wlu> tried its way to fast
[04:12] <moses> so
[04:12] <noiro> huh, does 13.04 no longer support USB 3.0?
[04:12] <Dr_willis> i cant recall seeing any errors for nividia at bootup.. now when X starts up.. there would be the X logs..
[04:12] <moses> I have the master slave as a drive
[04:12] <moses> Can i not boot from any drive accept the master?
[04:12] <Dr_willis> noiro,  I have no issues with USB3 here.
[04:13] <ArchNoob> hi guise... what would be an advantage of using arch over ubuntu?
[04:13] <betrayd> check the logns in /var/log
[04:13] <ArchNoob> or ubuntu over arch?
[04:13] <noiro> it's capping me out at 30MB/s
[04:13] <Dr_willis> ArchNoob,  try them both.. use what you perfer.
[04:13] <bity> moses: I think it has to be master
[04:13] <kb8wlu> newbie at linux how do i do that?
[04:13] <ArchNoob> yeah I am but I feel both are pretty good
[04:13] <Dr_willis> ArchNoob,  ubuntu will be much more 'automated'
[04:13] <Dr_willis> ArchNoob,  so its all about what YOU want.
[04:14] <ArchNoob> probably Arch is a little bit "faster" not saying that it makes a huge difference
[04:14] <Dr_willis> If you are good at arch. you shouldent have any issues with about any distro out there.,
[04:14] <moses> bity: that is a bummer
[04:14] <ArchNoob> nice Dr_willis
[04:14] <ArchNoob> :)
[04:14] <moses> I wonder if i can set that in the bios
[04:14] <ArchNoob> thank you
[04:14] <kb8wlu> how do i check the logs?
[04:14] <bity> can you just swap it into master position
[04:14] <bity> physically move it
[04:16] <moses> This computer uses serial ATA
[04:16] <moses> do they have master positions?
[04:17] <Dr_willis> Drives have PRIMARY/Extended/Logical Partitions.. SATA does Not haev 'master/slave'  like IDE does..
[04:17] <aeon-ltd> ArchNoob: i would reccommend arch not because of speed gains, but because it's a blank slate
[04:17] <Dr_willis> Unless of course..you dont want a 'blank slate' ;P
[04:17] <bity> are you running uefi bios?
[04:17] <kb8wlu> I used the desktop installer worked great
[04:17] <moses> Im not sure
[04:18] <bity> is it the old school look of bios or is it new and fancy
[04:18] <moses> It looks old
[04:18] <ArchNoob> aeon-ltd, yeah I am using it right now... what I like is that you put exactly what you want
[04:18] <kb8wlu> how do i change my font in here
[04:18] <moses> like similar to ~2002 bios
[04:18] <bity> what happens when you run just the single drive?
[04:18] <neozonz> is there a way to sync packages installed on one computer to another?
[04:19] <neozonz> ie a new server setup
[04:19] <bity> check out puppet
[04:19] <aeon-ltd> kb8wlu: depends on your irc client
[04:19] <Dr_willis> !clone
[04:19] <bity> neozonz, look into "puppet"
[04:20] <kb8wlu> using xchat
[04:20] <Dr_willis> xchat has some nice help menu/docs at one time. ;)
[04:20] <Dr_willis> Settings -> perferances -> has a font setting or 4
[04:20] <Martiini> !clone
[04:21] <Martiini> !help
[04:22] <Dr_willis> Martiini,  try /msg ubottu  factoidname
[04:23] <gulag2012> anyway to make the scope page smaller? I have a love hate with it. It could be very useful, but it's not
[04:23] <gasull> Hi.  How do you set NetworkManager to use the same DNS servers for all connections?
[04:27] <leename> i love ubuntu
[04:28] <yu> 有人会说中文吗
[04:28] <leename> 我会啊
[04:28] <yu> 哇
[04:28] <yu> 哪儿的
[04:28] <leename> 呵呵，我还以为都是国外的呢
[04:28] <leename> 云南的，你呢？
[04:28] <leename> 玩ubuntu 多久了？
[04:28] <picca> is this a Chinese channel?
[04:28] <yu> 真应该建立一个自己的。我天津的
[04:28] <leename> yes
[04:28] <picca> just checking
[04:29] <yu> we chinese love ubuntu too
[04:29] <WeThePeople> hi
[04:29] <leename> hi
[04:29] <tones> ubuntu is so smooth
[04:29] <leename> my english is very poor
[04:29] <WeThePeople> especially gnome3
[04:29] <leename> what is smooth ?
[04:29] <yu> i don`t like gnome3
[04:30] <tones> I'm on gnome 2
[04:30] <tones> silky
[04:30] <leename> i think just so so
[04:30] <jackbrown> Could anyone help me about this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1006145
[04:30] <ObrienDave> nicole_, private chat please
[04:32] <leename> 3D?
[04:35] <kb8wlu> whats a good virus program for ubuntu
[04:35] <WeThePeople> jackbrown, hold on letme check it out
[04:36] <jackbrown> WeThePeople: tnx
[04:36] <Dr_willis> kb8wlu,  thers several ANTI-Virus apps out there. ;)
[04:36] <Dr_willis> !av
[04:37] <WeThePeople> jackbrown, are you on a laptop?
[04:38] <WeThePeople> what type of mouse is it
[04:38] <jackbrown> WeThePeople: Logitech M515
[04:39] <WeThePeople> jackbrown, http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Mice-and-Pointing-Devices/Guide-for-setup-Performance-MX-mouse-on-Linux-with-KDE/td-p/517167
[04:39] <kb8wlu> I know this is a weird question but with windows when you donwload a program you click on the .EXE file but wit linux what do you click to install
[04:40] <[deXter]> kb8wlu, You click the "install" button in Software Centre.
[04:41] <kb8wlu> yea but if i download thru mozilla it downloads a bz2 file
[04:41] <WeThePeople> jackbrown, scratch that website
[04:43] <WeThePeople> jackbrown, do you have this kernel 2.6.35-22-generic
[04:44] <moses> Yeah I cant get this drive to boot up :(
[04:44] <moses> I just installed ubuntu to it
[04:44] <moses> maybe i need to set it to master?
[04:45] <kb8wlu> wish windows was as fast as ubuntu
[04:45] <moses> in the cmos they are both set up as slaves
[04:45] <moses> what is going on here
[04:46] <WeThePeople> it is
[04:47] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5702407/
[04:47] <tones>  that ubuntu phone looks excellent
[04:53] <kb8wlu> can i install itunes on ubuntu
[04:54] <[deXter]> why do you want itunes?
[04:54] <kb8wlu> so i can listen to podcast
[04:54] <[deXter]> you don't need itunes for that.. most audio players on linux support podcasts
[04:54] <tones> gpodder
[04:54] <kb8wlu> ok thanks
[04:54] <gorelick> clementine ftw :)
[04:55] <moses> does ubuntu installer install a boot loader?
[04:55] <kb8wlu> on reboot i had some errors pass by quick i do i view the errors
[04:55] <Tony_Stark> kb8wlu you can install it through wine but u will have trouble w/updating
[04:55] <tones> or just right click the podcast link and save it to the desktop for listening
[04:55] <Tony_Stark> clementine is better for linux
[04:56] <[deXter]> Tony_Stark, currently, iTunes has a Garbage rating in the wine appdb.
[04:56] <[deXter]> Which is without a surprise, as it is Apple garbage
[04:56] <Dr_willis> that matches what most people think about it.. ;)
[04:56] <[deXter]> ;)
[04:57] <Tony_Stark> oh..has been a while since I looked at the winedb ratings. thanx deXter
[04:57] <moses> how come the ubuntu 12.04 cd doesnt install a boot loader as well :(
[04:57] <moses> dont I need a boot loader to boot into windows?
[04:58] <moses> woops I mean boot into linux
[04:58] <Tony_Stark> :Moses.  it installs grub boot loader.
[04:58] <Parsi> how can i reorder partitions using gdisk?
[04:58] <moses> Tony_Stark: where?
[04:59] <moses> Tony_Stark: do you have to tell it to? which option installs grube?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> is there a package that can browse a garmin gps device directly from nautilus, without needing garmins website?
[04:59] <Tony_Stark> :moses etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d. I think.
[05:00] <|Slacker|> moses, how many OSes do you have?
[05:00] <moses> on this disk just ubuntu 12.04
[05:00] <moses> but when i try and boot from the drive it wont boot into ubuntu
[05:00] <moses> I must have done something wrong
[05:01] <Tony_Stark> :Moses. one file is one u do not mess with in grub. the other allies u to change grub config and then u run update-gub to update the grub.cfg file.
[05:01] <Tony_Stark> ubcan r
[05:02] <kb8wlu> whats a good book to buy for learning ubuntu
[05:02] <tones> Tony_Stark, you are right, clementine is better than gpodder
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> kb8wlu: best way to learn is experiment yourself
[05:03] <Tony_Stark> :Moses there are some good videos on modifying the grub boot loader on YouTube.
[05:03] <kb8wlu> good point
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !bash | kb8wlu
[05:03] <Dr_willis> kb8wlu,  id stick to online sources/sites.. any printed book may be a bit out of date.
[05:03] <Tony_Stark> :tones. thanx.
[05:03] <Dr_willis> kb8wlu,  however bargin bin books for 'funamental topics' like "using bash" or "Sed/awk"  by Oreally would be worthwhile
[05:04] <Dr_willis> but you an find a lot of them in E-book format
[05:04] <kb8wlu> thanks dr
[05:04] <kb8wlu> under software in the book section?
[05:04] <tones> Tony_Stark, but my "gstreamer player is missing a plugin"
[05:05] <Dr_willis> kb8wlu,  what?
[05:05] <kb8wlu>  are they in the software section in ubuntu under books
[05:05] <Dr_willis> I just tend to see whats in the bargin/clearance bins at the local bookstores. ;) not been in there in ages
[05:05] <Dr_willis> I tend to get Kindle E-Books these days
[05:05] <kb8wlu> ok
[05:07] <|Slacker|> dang! I keep getting the "This requires the install of untrusted packages" message in anything I try to install from software center, any help?
[05:07] <camilo> fligthgear chanel help?
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> tones: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[05:08] <Tony_Stark> :slacker. use the terminal with apt-get to stop that MSG.
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> kb8wlu: here's a free official ubuntu manual: http://ubuntu-manual.org//download/12.04/en_US/screen
[05:08] <|Slacker|> I suck at apt-get, what should I do?
[05:09] <|Slacker|> anything installs normally through apt-get but not through software center
[05:09] <Tony_Stark> :slacker. sudo apt-get install "package"
[05:09] <moses> anyone know if it is possible to install the boot loader after installing 12.04 from the live CD?  I dont see how to do that in the custom options
[05:10] <Dr_willis> moses,  you can chroot into the installed system. and use update-grub (theres guides on this) - or easier.. use the boot-repair tool
[05:10] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub
[05:10] <Tony_Stark> :Moses. there is a way through the live cd and charoot. check cgermany on YouTube.
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> moses, First gu after the something other option has a dropdown for grub
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> gui*
[05:11] <PulseFIREFIGHTS1> does any one on here use the #hak5 server on IRC?
[05:11] <Tony_Stark> I love hak5
[05:12] <Dr_willis> #normally means a channel name..  or is theres some odd named ircd called hak5?
[05:12] <Tony_Stark> hak5. org should tell u their ICR channel
[05:13] <PulseFIREFIGHTS1> i cant configure my IRC to connect to it
[05:14] <BluesKaj> there's a #hak5 chat here on freenode , just click on it
[05:14] <PulseFIREFIGHTS1> is there a password? or special port?
[05:14] <Dr_willis> most irc clients support the /connect ip-or-name-of-server portnumber    syntax
[05:14] <Dr_willis> or /server servername port
[05:18] <tones> lotuspsychje, ubuntu restricted extras worked, thanks :)
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> !yay | tones
[05:18] <kb8wlu> do i have to install my motherboards x79 chipset linux drivers?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> kb8wlu,  ive never had 'mothebhoard' drivers ive needed to install in linux
[05:19] <Dr_willis> video card and wifi card.. is about it
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> kb8wlu: you can check your drivers in 'software&updates' tab additional drivers
[05:19] <kb8wlu> cant find any asus rapmage IV extreme linux drivers
[05:20] <Dr_willis> i have no idea what a rampate extreme.. evenis..
[05:20] <Dr_willis> other then somthing MARKETING decided to name.  ;P
[05:20] <kb8wlu> x79 chipset drivers for linux
[05:20] <Dr_willis> chipset for what? video? wifi?
[05:20] <kb8wlu> for motherboard
[05:20] <Dr_willis> x79  tells me nothing.
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> :p
[05:21] <Dr_willis> so we have now gone full circle..
[05:21] <kb8wlu> i have a cd with all the drivers for my motherboard bit for win7 not linux
[05:21] <kb8wlu> x79 is the chipset
[05:21] <Dr_willis> kb8wlu,  perhaps tell us what part of the MB is Not working in linux?  or are we trying random things to fix some other problem?
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> kb8wlu: Dr_willis just told you, you dont need motherboard drivers for ubuntu
[05:22] <kb8wlu> ok didint know that
[05:22] <tones> clementine has the most comprehensive internet radio list
[05:22] <Dr_willis> at least in my many many years of ubuntu/liunux ussage.. ive never seen 'mb' drivers.. since it woul dbe for the CHIPSET of the device on the MB.
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> kb8wlu: did you notice a device is not working maybe?
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> !info clementine > lotuspsychje
[05:23] <kb8wlu> No i did have some boot errors but to fast to see them
[05:23] <Dr_willis> how do you know they were errors?
[05:23] <kb8wlu> tell you the truth not sire if they were errors
[05:23] <moses> Is grub even on this ubuntu live cd?
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> moses: what are you trying to achieve exactly?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> moses,  you can install the boot-repair tool while using the live cd.. OR chroot into your installed system and use update-grub (but thats harder)
[05:24] <kb8wlu> It was so fast i couldnt see them
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> kb8wlu: so everything works on your new ubuntu system?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> kb8wlu,  ubuntu/linux can print out TONS of messages at boot time..  none of which are 'errors' but just info
[05:25] <kb8wlu> seems ok? i see two drives in my ubuntu desktop
[05:25] <Dr_willis> kb8wlu,  i habve about 8 drives on my desktop...
[05:26] <kb8wlu> i noticed some dell computer have ubuntu loaded allready on them
[05:26] <moses> Dr_willis: how do i use the boot repair?
[05:26] <moses> lotuspsychje: I have made a huge error and installed ubuntu 12.04 without installing grub :(
[05:26] <moses> it wont boot
[05:26] <Dr_willis> moses,  a read of that !fixgrub wiki page url.. shows you
[05:26] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub > moses
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> moses: dualboot or singleboot?
[05:27] <kb8wlu> why dont you install 12.04 with the windows desktop installer
[05:28] <Dr_willis> windows desktop installer?
[05:28] <kb8wlu> wub thinks its called
[05:28] <Dr_willis> You mean WUBI? Its best to run away from wubi..
[05:28] <Dr_willis> dont even LOOK at wubi..
[05:28] <moses> lotuspsychje: single
[05:28] <kb8wlu> that how i installed 12.04
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> moses: ubuntu setup should install grub fine..can you tell us what actually happened during setup?
[05:29] <moses> everything went perfectly
[05:29] <moses> actually
[05:29] <moses> is there a way to see if grub is installed?
[05:29] <moses> it wont boot to this disk :(
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> moses: holding shift at boot
[05:30] <moses> it doesnt even boot to anything when i select the drive though
[05:30] <moses> it just says booting to OS
[05:30] <moses> then stops there
[05:30] <moses> :/
[05:30] <tones> why isn't clementine listed on sourceforge?
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> moses: if setup had no issues, grub would be installed fine i think...did you recently add new hd drives?
[05:31] <kb8wlu> how come wubi doesnt have a option to install 13.4
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> !info clementine | tones
[05:32] <moses> no this is an old drive
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> moses: what Os did your system have before ubuntu? did you upgrade or clean install?
[05:32] <tones> well nite all, clementine was my new nugget for the day :)
[05:32] <moses> clean
[05:32] <moses> I deleted all partitions from the drive
[05:32] <moses> and then chose install ubuntu from the live cd option
[05:32] <moses> :/
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> moses: so after setup, when you boot do you see the purple ubuntu loading?
[05:33] <moses> no
[05:33] <moses> it is a black screen that says booting to OS
[05:33] <moses> and then just stays there
[05:33] <kb8wlu> when i do that details in the ubuntu its comes up graphics  "unkown"
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> moses: booting to Os isnt a default ubuntu warning, what was your previous Os mate?
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> kb8wlu: try a youtube video in hd, to see if your graphics work nicely mate
[05:35] <moses> there was a windows and another ubuntu
[05:35] <moses> but it doesnt even boot to ubuntu at all
[05:35] <moses> im not sure why :(
[05:35] <moses> thats the problem :/
[05:35] <kb8wlu> ok
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> moses: can you tell us what option you chose during setup: wipe whole hd for ubuntu only, or install next to windows or other ubuntu?
[05:36] <moses> wipe
[05:36] <moses> whole hd for ubuntu only
[05:36] <moses> same thing happened
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> hmmm
[05:36] <kb8wlu> nope i only get 480P
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> thats odd indeed
[05:36] <moses> then I used that program that deleted the drive
[05:37] <moses> and i went in manually and deleted the partitions
[05:37] <moses> then i installed ubuntu again
[05:37] <moses> and now here we are
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> moses: wich program?
[05:37] <mkquist> moses: where did you install grub?
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> mkquist: setup completed fine he says
[05:38] <moses> gparted
[05:38] <moses> mkquist: i didnt install grub
[05:38] <moses> im not even sure that this live cd comes with grub
[05:39] <moses> 12.04?
[05:39] <blebaford> real quick - what's the equivalent of du -a | grep, using find? which is more idiomatic?
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> moses: are you sure your hd is still working?
[05:40] <kb8wlu> my graphics card wont detect in ubuntu 12.04
[05:40] <moses> yeah im pretty sure it is
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> kb8wlu: did you check the additional drivers tab? see any drivers there?
[05:40] <mkquist> moses: it asks near the end of setting up the install..
[05:40] <moses> mkquist: i didnt see that at all
[05:41] <moses> so it didnt install grub at all :(
[05:41] <mkquist> lotuspsychje: dont think he couldve installed w/o a hd
[05:41] <moses> thats the problem
[05:41] <kb8wlu> yea looking now i see 3 of them let me try all three of
[05:41] <mkquist> well, you can boot from the live cd and reinstall or install grub
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> kb8wlu: try enable the graphics driver
[05:42] <kb8wlu> lotus where do i do that from?
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> moses: when you gparted your drive, did you wipe vista partitions too?
[05:43] <moses> yes
[05:43] <moses> everything
[05:43] <moses> why didnt this 12.04 install grub....
[05:43] <moses> WTF
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> kb8wlu: software&updates, tab additional drivers
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> moses: be calm mate no reason to swear
[05:43] <mkquist> it does..  im using 12.04 right now
[05:43] <moses> sorry frusterated
[05:43] <bity> you could try loading another bootloader like lilo
[05:43] <Parsi> can i reorder partitions by gpt fdisk?
[05:44] <mkquist> still my choice... 12.04
[05:44] <moses> mkquist: which option did you use to install ubuntu from the livecd?
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> moses: try reboot and holding shift to doublecheck grub
[05:44] <mkquist> its near the end of setting up the install
[05:44] <mkquist> moses: see last
[05:44] <moses> it didnt ask me that option :(
[05:44] <mkquist> moses: and for the record on 11.04 sry
[05:46] <kb8wlu> be right back got to reboot
[05:46] <moses> will gparted install grub form e?
[05:46] <moses> me
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> moses: did you change bios settings?
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> moses: some bios can block an Os to load, that might be your booting to Os warning..
[05:47] <moses> lotuspsychje: naw thats not it
[05:47] <moses> I changed the boot order a couple times
[05:48] <moses> but it never actually loads the OS
[05:48] <moses> because theres no boot loader
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> moses: it doesnt make sense to me...if setup was complete, grub had to install correctly
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> moses: try a reboot right now mate and hold shift after post booting, see if grub works..
[05:50] <moses> im looking at gparted right now where would grub normally be?
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> moses: try a reboot..
[05:51] <mapps> hi y'all
[05:51] <mapps> could someone lend me a hand again
[05:52] <mapps> back from yesterday:D
[05:52] <mapps> same problem still
[05:52] <mapps> hehe
[05:52] <FloodBot1> mapps: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> mapps: just ask mate
[05:52] <mkquist> moses: http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/
[05:52] <mapps> i cant get packets to get outside the LAN ..ubuntu box can reach netbook .<IP_ADDRESS> but any requests to any non LAN ip fail
[05:52] <mapps> checked resolv.con checked iptables no chains at all - also checked ifconfig /iwconfig
[05:52] <mapps> not sure what to do now really
[05:52] <mkquist> moses: look down the page.. instructions for installing grub from live cd
[05:55] <mapps> guess noone knows;)
[05:57] <mkquist> mapps: check to see if router is blocking?
[05:57] <mapps> i can do but i cant see why it would be I havent changed anything on the router
[05:57] <mapps> its just a crappy isp provided pos
[05:58] <Dr_willis> plug the pc directly into  the network. bypassing the router.. see if it works
[05:58] <mapps> how?!
[05:59] <Dr_willis> unplug the pc from the router.. plug the cable modem network cable into pc...
[05:59] <Dr_willis> power cycle cable modem, reboot pc..
[05:59] <mapps> ah its ADSL
[05:59] <Dr_willis> theres  the cable/adsl MODEM.. then theres a router.. (unless its both in one)
[06:00] <mapps> na
[06:00] <mapps> both in one dude
[06:00] <Dr_willis> a curious test would be to get a 2nd router.. plug IT into the adsl modem-router.. and see if the linux box works if pluged into the 2nd daisy-chained router. ;)
[06:00] <mapps> i could change the IP it gets
[06:00] <mapps> see if the routers doing sometihng odd based on its IP
[06:01] <mapps> but i cant see why it would - is there anything you can think of i should check within ubuntu the os besides resolv.conf and ptablkes ?!
[06:01] <Dr_willis> can it ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[06:01] <mapps> nope
[06:02] <mapps> anything you can think of OS related mate? :( then Il make it get a new IP and see if thats why
[06:02] <mapps> cant see why
[06:04] <moses> worked
[06:04] <moses> thank you so much
[06:04] <Dr_willis> this is one of the reasons i did not buy a cavble-modem/Router combo last year.. when i updated my cable modem
[06:05] <mapps> i had no choice it was sent to me by my ISP when i moved house
[06:05] <Dr_willis> i bet  you could buy your own and stop renting theirs.
[06:05] <mapps> just annoying i cant think of anything else i could do to try and fix it
[06:05] <mapps> yea thats true
[06:05] <mapps> never thought about it/had the need before
[06:05] <Dr_willis> if you had a second router, you could try chaining them
[06:06] <mapps> ive got a spare cable router heh from when I used cable
[06:06] <mapps> actually wait it might just be a router i think it was basically we had cable modem -> router before
[06:07] <mapps> should i try adsl modem/router -> old router?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> combo modem-routers are a fairly recent  thing
[06:07] <Dr_willis> try it and see.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> it will put the pc on a seperate network.    i belive by default.  you might need to tweak the ip-range the router hands out.
[06:08] <mapps> ok il mess about noiw
[06:08] <mapps> thanks
[06:10] <mapps> ive setup the interfaces file manually for static ip pretty sure its all right address; <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:10] <Dr_willis> i must have a box of like 5 old routers from over the years. ;)
[06:11] <mapps> using wifi (wlan0) iface wlan0 inet static  - seems to associate fine
[06:11] <Dr_willis> the gateway on the PC would be the ip of the router..  if you do a 2nd router.. it would be using that routers ip.. wich you may want to change the range it hands out.
[06:11] <mapps> yea that is the router is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:11] <Dr_willis> main router on 192.168.1.*    subrouter on <IP_ADDRESS>  or somthing.
[06:11] <mapps> then wpa-ssid network id wpa-psk network key and it all seems to work
[06:11] <Dr_willis> or 192.168.2.*
[06:11] <mapps> netmask would be <IP_ADDRESS> for that i think
[06:13] <mapps> damnit made no difference
[06:14] <Dr_willis> be curious if any of the various linux live cds boot on that and get working networking also.,.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> and try wired instead of wireless
[06:14] <mapps> networking was working 2 days ago then yesterday camre home from work started to mess about with VPN
[06:14] <mapps> rebooted and now nothing
[06:14] <mapps> hang on could the few changes i made to the interfaces file for vpn have stopped packets getting out?>
[06:15] <mapps> il comment it all out for now and restart networking?
[06:15] <Dr_willis> VPN can do all sorts of things.. this is why i  suggest trying the LIVE_CD test.  that would give you a solid untouched baseline to mess with
[06:16] <mapps> ok lets see il comment out these changes i made to interfaces file for now and restart networking and see-i also removed openvpn for now
[06:17] <mapps> ARGHH nope didnt fix it :)
[06:22] <youngGinger> hey guys i'm trying to write a bash script to run an eval command but i'm stuck here's what I have so far. http://pastebin.com/yg38qDdc
[06:27] <youngGinger> is anyone here?
[06:28] <tozen> youngGinger: of course
[06:28] <youngGinger> hey tozen, i'm trying to run eval inside a bash script but it won't run here's the pastebin http://pastebin.com/yg38qDdc
[06:28] <Dr_willis> there is a #bash channel
[06:40] <bambam1> Hi, I just performed a fresh install of Ubuntu 13.04... when I reboot after installation I get the following error: "error: attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'. grub rescue >" I tried googling and ubuntu forums and was not able to find a solution. Someone please help me out?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> id check how the hd is partioned bambam1  - is this pc running Just ubuntu? or dual booting?
[06:42] <bambam1> Dr_willis: No dual boots, simply / formatted in ext4 and swap
[06:43] <bambam1> It's a 40 GB drive, does that make a difference?
[06:43] <Dr_willis> bambam1,  what partioned the hd?
[06:43] <Dr_willis> and how old is the system?
[06:43] <bambam1> Dr_willis: gparted, the system is exactly 10 years old
[06:43] <bambam1> technically I'm installing Lubuntu
[06:43] <Parsi> is it possible to reorder partition?
[06:43] <Dr_willis> egads. ;)
[06:43] <Dr_willis> 10 yr old.. heh.
[06:43] <bambam1> Prescott, 2 GB of RAM, still good enough for grandpa
[06:44] <Dr_willis> assumning its not the HD thats failing.
[06:44] <Dr_willis> guess you could try the boot-repair tool from a live cd and see if it fixs anything
[06:44] <bambam1> Dr_willis: Actually, I installed Ubuntu on this same HDD when it was on a different computer
[06:44] <bambam1> I'm guessing the issue might be with the BIOS or something
[06:45] <Dr_willis> ive moved a hd to a differnt pc.. installed.. then moved it back. ;)  is that what you did?
[06:46] <bambam1> Dr_willis: I salvaged this 40 GB from an even older PC that had raring installed. Moved that into this 10 year old machine I'm working with now and it gave me this very same message. So I try reinstalling the entire OS again... no luck... same deal
[06:46] <bambam1> It's not an old HDD, actually. SMART reports only 13 powered on days
[06:47] <bambam1> It was used as an external HDD before
[06:47] <bambam1> er
[06:47] <bambam1> not a very used HDD, I should say
[06:47] <Dr_willis> hmm.. a 10 year old hd with SMART?
[06:47] <bambam1> Yup
[06:47] <Dr_willis> dident think smart has been around that long..
[06:47] <Dr_willis> then again. ive lerned to not trust smart...
[06:47] <bambam1> Why not?
[06:47] <bity> does anyone have experience with a plex server ?
[06:48] <Dr_willis> bity,  Using PLEX right now. ;) its sort of... AWSOME..
[06:48] <Dr_willis> ;P
[06:48] <bity> ya i just got a roku 3
[06:48] <Dr_willis> If you got a RaspberryPi - check out PiPlex or plexPi
[06:48] <bity> i do have a pi
[06:48] <bity> hm
[06:48] <Dr_willis> wife is watching Plex now on her Roku3 - showed her how to do it just an hr ago
[06:48] <Dr_willis> PlexPi is still a little flakey (its in beta)
[06:49] <Dr_willis> my Samsung TV also has a Plex channel.
[06:49] <bity> do either of PiPlex or PlexPi have the unsupported app store pre isntalled?
[06:49] <bity> nice
[06:49] <Dr_willis> Appstore?  never noticed an apstore on plex.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> Plexpi - is just a plex client.. it has to connect to a Plex server. it cant run as a server (as far as i know)
[06:50] <bity> its called UnSupported_AppStore
[06:50] <bity> it is a plugin
[06:50] <bity> that allows you to watch other channels like 1channel
[06:51] <bity> ah gotcha, they are client , not server setup
[06:51] <Dr_willis> you add them on your plex server..
[06:51] <Dr_willis> that is working on some of the channels on my Roku3 - but not all.
[06:51] <Dr_willis> dident really work with PlexPi enough to see if any worked.. some did not.. ddent try them all
[06:52] <Dr_willis> I am Running Plex on a windows box however. Not Ubuuntu.
[06:52] <bity> im trying to eliminate windows out of my network
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> bity: good idea :p
[06:53] <bity> so i switched the media laptop to ubuntu and tried to run netflix through wine , it worked, but i think it causes all the processing to happen through the cpu, it got pretty hot
[06:53] <bity> instead of using the gpu/videocard properly
[06:53] <Dr_willis> watching StarTrek ANimeation. now on Plex on the Roku3, from my Windows PC Plex server. ;)
[06:53] <fowl> oh wow autojoined this channel
[06:53] <Dr_willis> the Amazon Prime channel did not work however.
[06:53] <fowl> arent i lucky, to be here, with all of you
[06:53] <fowl> you dukes of maine, you princes of york
[06:53] <fowl> etc
[06:58] <Rarrikins> How do I get a message to appear (like a MOTD) when a user opens a terminal window?
[06:58] <himanshu_linux> hi i have a eclipse.tar.gz file and i want it to install like .deb package file .... how can i do so ?
[06:59] <Dr_willis> !motd
[06:59] <Dr_willis> theres a MOTD file/service in  ubuntu Rarrikins .  theres some /etc/motd* stuff that configures it
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> Rarrikins: cool question!
[06:59] <Dr_willis> !eclipse
[06:59] <Dr_willis> himanshu_linux,  best would be to find a PPA for it - if you need a newer version then whats in the repos
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> Rarrikins: is it for server terminal or ssh logins?
[07:01] <Rarrikins> lotuspsychje: For regular, already-logged-in terminal windows.
[07:02] <himanshu_linux> Dr_willis : hmm ok
[07:02] <Rarrikins> lotuspsychje: I mean that I open the GUI terminal program on the machine itself.
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> Rarrikins: man motd :p just findout its existence
[07:02] <Dr_willis> when a user logs in. bash has a option to show the MOTD of the server.
[07:02] <chesty> what's the ubuntu way to add a new desktop user with rights to cdrom and printers, etc?
[07:03] <Dr_willis> other shells normally do the same thing
[07:03] <Rarrikins> Dr_willis: I've tried to install update-motd package, but it doesn't seem to work unless I'm logging in (Alt-F1 or ssh or something).
[07:03] <Dr_willis> chesty,  one way 'sudo adduser username' should givbe all the right defaults
[07:03] <Rarrikins> Sorry, Ctrl-Alt-F1
[07:03] <chesty> Dr_willis: it doesn;t
[07:03] <Dr_willis> Rarrikins, how else are you wanting to see it? when you Login to X you mean?
[07:03] <Dr_willis> chesty,  cant say ive ever had it not work for my users..
[07:04] <Dr_willis> chesty,  thers also the gui tools.
[07:04] <chesty> the gui also doesn't give a user rights to use the printer, for example
[07:04] <Rarrikins> lotuspsychje: man motd works. The motd displays when I do Ctrl-Alt-F1 and log in.
[07:05] <Rarrikins> Dr_willis: When I'm already logged in and open lxterminal or xterm or something.
[07:05] <Rarrikins> Dr_willis: It doesn't ask my password, just gives a prompt, so no MOTD.
[07:05] <Dr_willis> Rarrikins,  thats the differance btween a 'login shell' and a normal 'shell'
[07:05] <Dr_willis> try 'xterm' and compare to 'xterm -ls'
[07:06] <Dr_willis> i always disable the MOTD. :)
[07:06] <Dr_willis> if you do a 'touch .hushlogin' then that disables the motd so th euser dosent ahve to see them
[07:07] <Rarrikins> Ahh, yeah, I did that a while back on some server.
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> Rarrikins: apt-cache search motd :p
[07:08] <Rarrikins> Hmm, nothing looks good in the package list there.
[07:09] <Rarrikins> Maybe I'll just put a readme on the desktop or something.
[07:09] <Dr_willis> ive not seen a 'motd for when the user logins into X'
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> Dr_willis: how about leaving msges for a specific user in terminal? any trick for that?
[07:09] <Dr_willis> lotuspsychje,  never really noticed a way.. or needed one. ;) thats what email is for.
[07:09] <Dr_willis> ;P
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> how about adding stuff to bash_profile in users /home
[07:12] <Dr_willis> id be sort of an annoyed user.., if the system admin was messing in my /home/
[07:12] <Dr_willis> there is a /etc/bash profile type scripts for that. ;)
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> ah ok
[07:12] <Dr_willis> but bash allready shows the MOTD
[07:12] <Dr_willis> IF its a login shell.
[07:12] <Dr_willis> if its a non interactive shell you dont want it showing the MOTD.
[07:12] <duSn> there is write/talk/wall (don't know if by terminal you mean linux)
[07:12] <lrcaballero> has anybody tried the new Pantheon Desktop Environment on Ubuntu 13.04?
[07:13] <Rarrikins> lotuspsychje: I might end up doing that.
[07:13] <histo> Rarrikins: put it in your .bashrc
[07:13] <bambam1> Dr_willis: Any ideas, docs?
[07:13] <Dr_willis> bambam1,  on what?
[07:14] <bambam1> Doc*
[07:15] <Dr_willis> its 3 am... be a bit more clear. ;)
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> maybe cowsay can put stuff automaticly at launching a terminal?
[07:15] <histo> bambam1: mostlikely your grub config is messed up or your partitions are. It could be trying to load the rootfs outside of the disk
[07:15] <histo> !grub2 | bambam1
[07:16] <Rarrikins> histo: I'll probably end up doing that
[07:16] <switching> if you were buying a system76 laptop would you go with the ssd?
[07:16] <switching> also would you go with a system76 or just get an hp or something and just wipe it to install ubuntu?
[07:16] <Dr_willis> a SSD is an easy thing to add later..  but they are defainatly worth the $$ :)
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> switching: ubuntu on an ssd is a very good idea :p
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> switching: see also ##hardware channel
[07:17] <duSn> ssd have limited lifespan
[07:17] <switching> lotuspsychje why? :)
[07:17] <Dr_willis> get a HP.. replace the HD with a new SSD.. and keep the old HD for later when you sell/give away the old laptop
[07:17] <Dr_willis> Hard drives have a limited lifespan also..
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> duSn: i have had not one issue with ssd
[07:17] <Dr_willis> people have limited lifespans  :) question is how long is the limit
[07:17] <switching> dr_willis that's an interesting idea
[07:18] <duSn> Dr_willis: difference is measured in exponetials dude
[07:18] <Flynsarmy> when i do a sudo apt-get upgrade I get "The following packages have been kept back: linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic" why?
[07:18] <Dr_willis> switching,  thats what i do with my last 4 pcs
[07:18] <histo> switching: I'd go with anyone but HP personally jsut from my experience. I like what system76 is doing and my next laptop is coming from them. Also my current laptop with ssd boots to graphical login in about 4 seconds
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> switching: i use ubuntu 64-bit on an ssd, and speeds are rocketfast
[07:18] <switching> dr_willis i tend to keep pcs for a long time though
[07:18] <Dr_willis> duSn,  citation needed.. ive not seen the diffenance in real life.. but its not really an ON topic for here. perhaps in #hardware
[07:18] <Dr_willis> so  i dont really care. ;)
[07:18] <switching> histo i also like system76, it seems like they put a lot of care into their products
[07:18] <duSn> you are the one mentioning ssd lol
[07:19] <Dr_willis> system75 sort of takes other brand pcs and redo them  i thoight
[07:19] <switching> lotuspsychje that's what i think im gonna do
[07:19] <Dr_willis> he asked if it was worth getting a SSD.. yes it is.
[07:19] <switching> dr_willis nope system76.com
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> switching: very good idea
[07:19] <Dr_willis> biggest speed boost to a pc ive seen
[07:19] <aeon-ltd> duSn: good ssds have long write lifespans , slc based iirc
[07:19] <SwedeMike> Dr_willis: I Have two broken SSDs on my desk, one X25-M, one OCZ Vertex. Especially the first-gen stuff seem to brake.
[07:19] <switching> now what size? ive only ever had 120gb
[07:19] <Dr_willis> switching,  last i looke Some months ago.  thir systems were identical to some of the ones  made by other makers.
[07:20] <histo> SwedeMike: yes they 1st gen stuff is bad.
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> SwedeMike: ocz have bad reputation, but thats offtopic :p
[07:20] <Dr_willis> forst gen stuff.. is always flakier. ;)
[07:20] <histo> I've used both corsair and sandisk SSDs and have not had issues yet.
[07:20] <Dr_willis> cars, pcs, os's  ;)
[07:20] <histo> All disks fail though so....
[07:20] <switching> dr_willis what do you mean identical? they are customizable and have custom laptop cases
[07:20] <Dr_willis> I definatly see more  regular HD failure on this channel then i do sdds
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> even my 8gig transcend slc never failed me on ubuntu 64-bit
[07:21] <switching> i heard you're not supposed to do a full shutdown on an ssd
[07:21] <aeon-ltd> reasoning?
[07:21] <histo> Dr_willis: because SSds are not as popular IMO
[07:21] <Dr_willis> switching,  from what i recall reading a year+ ago. a lot of the laptops come from 'whitebox' laptop makers that then take identical mb and parts and  rebrand them.
[07:21] <histo> switching: nonsense.
[07:21] <Dr_willis> switching,  but i havent looked at laptops in a year+
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> switching: even ubuntu server hosting ive seen do double 320 SSD layouts
[07:21] <duSn> here is some stuff on ssd http://www.storagesearch.com/ssdmyths-endurance.html
[07:22] <Dr_willis> theres a lot of hype and old 'rules' out for SSD's that might have applied to earlier ones.. but not the newer ones.
[07:22] <switching> also if i did get a windows pc and wipe it what brand should i get
[07:22] <histo> switching: There are certain things you can do to extend the life and reduce writes to the disk. Like mounting with noatime,discard  options. Also I mount browser cache, logs, and a bunch of /var to tmpfs
[07:22] <Dr_willis> switching,  brand wont matter near as much as what chipsets are insde it
[07:22] <switching> dr_willis their cases appear to be custom made
[07:23] <switching> dr_willis which are preferable?
[07:23] <Dr_willis> switching,  i buy whats on sale. ;)
[07:23] <switching> histo got it!
[07:23] <switching> dr_willis nice :)
[07:23] <Dr_willis> if im putting in my own HD, i often get whats on the display/clearance
[07:23] <switching> dr_willis are you putting in your own processor too? o.O
[07:24] <duSn> the newer ssd are worse - how about get some real info on it
[07:24] <histo> switching: I would /j ##hardware
[07:24] <Dr_willis> switching,  i rarely bother with cpus.
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> lets all go to #ubuntu-offtopic for interesting ssd thread
[07:24] <switching> histo i did :)
[07:27] <Dr_willis> the stack exchange sites have a lot of info/discussion on this also.. but what one guy says.. the others counter. ;) but i imagine the most senciable thing to know is 'buy from a good brand maker'
[07:27] <Dr_willis> that applys to most any hardware you get.
[07:29] <switching> how can i get +v in ##hardware?
[07:30] <Dr_willis> identify with nickserv?
[07:35] <Dr_willis> switching,  some info on the 'rebranding' stuff. here. they sort of rebrand i guess you can say on some makes. ;)    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1926489
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a desktop notifier in python, that can remember unread msges and store them in indicator section
[07:38] <switching> ty dr_willis
[07:38] <Dr_willis> ive seen generic inticator applets written in python in some answers on askubuntu.com   sort of a 'skeleton indicator applet'
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> Dr_willis: tnx lemme take a look
[07:39] <Dr_willis> lotuspsychje,  search for 'indicator applet list' then sort by votes.. shoul dbe a huge list.. but it may be outdated
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> ok
[07:40] <switching> dang still cannot message in ##hardware despite being ided
[07:40] <Galaxy> Ciao
[07:40] <Galaxy> !list
[07:42] <histo> switching: I can
[07:42] <switching> histo i know everyone but me can :/
[07:44] <redfeather> By currently supported versions, should I not ask for help if I'm not using 10.04?
[07:44] <Dr_willis> server   10.04 i  think is still supported
[07:44] <auronandace> redfeather: 10.04 is currently supported on the server only
[07:44] <Dr_willis> !10.04
[07:46] <redfeather> Ah I see.
[07:47] <redfeather> Still, if I have a problem with 12.04. Could I ask it here?
[07:47] <auronandace> redfeather: of course
[07:47] <auronandace> !topic | redfeather
[07:51] <redfeather> Alright, so I'm trying to install 12.04 on a HP dv6000. For some reason when I get to the installer the screen has scanlines and only shows the top right hand corner of a higher resolution (I checked display, it says it's running at 1280x1024. But it seems to only be showing ~300 px of the top right hand corner of that.
[07:52] <redfeather> Couldn't find the problem elsewhere.
[07:52] <Dr_willis> tried the nomodeset option yet?
[07:52] <Dr_willis> !nomodeset
[07:53] <lasers> redfeather: I think that's a defective laptop.
[07:53] <redfeather> Maybe, but the screen is correct in puppy linux and windows repair.
[07:53] <redfeather> Will look at nomodeset.
[07:53] <Dr_willis> try the Nomodeset thing..
[07:53] <Dr_willis> if its getting sent the wrong info it can be goofy.
[07:54] <Dr_willis> what video chipset is in the thing?
[07:56] <redfeather> I don't know >_>
[07:56] <aeon-ltd> redfeather: got a spare monitor handy? try that see if the output is normal, if so complete the install then fix the graphics problem after
[07:57] <Dr_willis> that would be a   #1 thing to find out.
[07:57] <Dr_willis> boot any live disrto and look at the lspci output
[07:57] <Dr_willis> 'lspci' command
[07:58] <redfeather> Ah, the nomodeset fixed the problem.
[07:58] <Dr_willis> once you install the proper drivers. you most likely wont need nomodeset then
[07:59] <Dr_willis> the addational-drivers tool may suggest the proper drivers
[07:59] <RevolutionMasta> Is anyone here familiar with ZFS? I'm having issues importing a volume that suffered a power failure
[07:59] <redfeather> I see, thanks!
[07:59] <Dr_willis> it may have an icon at the top right allready.. with some suggestions
[08:01] <thegladiator> Is there any way I have have a windows virtual env in my Linux box
[08:01] <thegladiator> I have a an ISO etc
[08:02] <redfeather> I'm gonna have to work on getting the right drivers tommorrow. Already stayed up too late working on other things for the comp.
[08:02] <redfeather> So, nn.
[08:02] <RevolutionMasta> thegladiator: If you have enough RAM and a modern processor, you should be able to run it as a guest in a KVM with virt-manager or in Virtualbox
[08:02] <thegladiator> I only have 1 GB
[08:03] <thegladiator> and I am using lxde ... so about 700 MB free
[08:03] <trijntje> Hi all, can someone verify if in ubuntu 12.04, the top right button has the 'about this computer' entry, which shows if the OS is 32 or 64 bit?
[08:03] <thegladiator> what about Xen RevolutionMasta
[08:03] <RevolutionMasta> You could probably get away with virtualizing XP with 512MB or less. No idea about Xen… Haven't used it with Windows before
[08:03] <Dr_willis> does windows work in xen?
[08:03] <Dr_willis> ive only used it in vbox
[08:04] <sendaljepit> help link iptables all??
[08:05] <aeon-ltd> sendaljepit: for what?
[08:05] <aeon-ltd> sendaljepit: or just anything?
[08:05] <Dr_willis> !firewall
[08:05] <sendaljepit> just studying
[08:06] <sendaljepit> yea.. <Dr_willis>
 tq for link
[08:09] <Dr_willis> !bot
[08:10] <sendaljepit> ask..: what is the difference if the drop in client input / output / forward, his one open??
[08:12] <mob> hello
[08:12] <vitimiti> o/
[08:12] <sendaljepit> and what is the function iptables -A INPUT/OUTPUT/FORWARD -p icmp -j ACCEPT?
[08:13] <mob> does anyone know if there is a way to crate a super computer with ubuntuphone and multiple devices??
[08:13] <mob> well phones that is ....
[08:13] <thegladiator> well super computer with phone :)
[08:13] <aeon-ltd> they already do that
[08:13] <aeon-ltd> calxeda, seamicro
[08:13] <mob> well I am researching for school
[08:14] <mob> just would like to recycle the phones :)
[08:14] <mob> \and give them a new life
[08:14] <aeon-ltd> using arm clusters for supercomputing, they're called something like wimpy nodes
[08:14] <Dr_willis> raspberry pi cluster computing. ;)
[08:14] <thegladiator> lol
[08:14] <mob> well already did that
[08:14] <mob> with RPI
[08:14] <thegladiator> and what will u do with the computing power ?
[08:15] <aeon-ltd> render ascii art as 3d models
[08:16] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[08:17] <sendaljepit> Ubottu = bot??
[08:18] <aeon-ltd> there you go
[08:18] <sendaljepit> grrr.... :'(
[08:18] <Dr_willis> 'open the pod bay doors hal.....'
[08:19] <sendaljepit> anyone know??
[08:20] <Dr_willis> i missed the question.. if it was about iptables.. theres like books written on the topic.. :)
[08:20] <aeon-ltd> is anyone working on a irc bot that can solve problems, so a more intelligent bot that can understand context and abstract queries? seems useful for solving repetitive problems on linux irc channels
[08:20] <Dr_willis> i rarely need to worry about it
[08:22] <sendaljepit> so??
[08:23] <lasers> aeon-ltd: You mean Google? ;)
[08:23] <sendaljepit> so what do you think of when there are cases such as ping flood??
[08:23] <Dr_willis> there is a #networking channel
[08:24] <thegladiator> I just installed lubuntu and its damn fast with my netbook
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> !yay | thegladiator
[08:24] <thegladiator> :-) yes , its like a supercomp now
[08:24] <aeon-ltd> lasers: what google is becoming, but smaller and limiting it to ubuntu then making that in bot form so it can actively respond to users instead calling factoids
[08:25] <sendaljepit> Dr_wilis tanks :)
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> thegladiator: wanna tell me netbook specs in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[08:26] <thegladiator> sure
[08:26] <aeon-ltd> sendaljepit: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Iptables#Basic_concepts
[08:28] <Guest7078> Hello
[08:28] <aeon-ltd> hallo
[08:28] <sendaljepit> I use ubuntu 11.10 server, the server at my school for a case like that I asked it earlier
[08:28] <Guest7078> I am new here and i ve a problem with my ubuntu 12.04
[08:28] <pac1> As a general user, what would be the consequences of selecting SLUB_DEBUG=n for a kernel?  Would any part of ubuntu be broken by doing this?
[08:32] <Guest7078> i want to connect to a fritzbox wlan but ubuntu doesn´t accept the password
[08:32] <arlosmar> hi. when i transfer files from my nexus4 to a local folder in thunar, it changes the names of the folders. does anybody know why? please
[08:32] <snow_ru> hei
[08:33] <snow_ru> baby
[08:33] <Guest7078> is anybody able to help me?
[08:33] <snow_ru> sure
[08:33] <snow_ru> how many people are there in this channel ?
[08:34] <histo> 1559
[08:35] <histo> Guest7078: are you using the proper password?
[08:35] <histo> Guest and does your wifi work connecting to other routers?
[08:35] <Guest7078> yes in windows i can connect to the wlan
[08:36] <Guest7078> i can type in a password. The connect button is active only with 5 characters. when i type more, it will deactivate
[08:40] <ubuntu_user99> hi
[08:41] <ubuntu_user99> can anybody read my message?
[08:43] <lomo7> ubuntu_user99: yap
[08:44] <lomo7> I changing the order of the boot in the bios, but can't boot from usb after installed ubuntu.. why's that??
[08:45] <Dr_willis> test the usb in a differnt pc?
[08:47] <ronalds> I have one 35 gb partition on which ubuntu is on, and other 75 gb partition, I somehow managed to partition, by installing kubuntu and later reinstalling ubuntu
[08:47] <ronalds> how can I merge those partitions, cause 35 gb for linux isn't enough
[08:48] <Dr_willis> you could use the other partion for a /home/
[08:48] <Dr_willis>  and have 35gb just for /
[08:48] <Dr_willis> so you would have 35gb / and a 75gb /home
[08:48] <ronalds> And how do you make it appear /home
[08:48] <Dr_willis> mount it to /home/ ;)
[08:48] <Dr_willis> !switchhome
[08:48] <Dr_willis> !changehome
[08:48] <Dr_willis> if i can find the factoid on it...
[08:48] <Dr_willis> its not hard.
[08:49] <Dr_willis> format the 75 to be ext4, copy all of your  current /home/ to it. making sure you clone the permissions, them make a fstab entry for the new  partition to mount it to /home/ on bootup
[08:50] <Dr_willis> how many users are on your system?
[08:50] <ronalds> one
[08:50] <lomo7> Dr_willis: i did and other pc recognize
[08:50] <Dr_willis> you could just format and mount the partion to /home/yourusername/Storage  and use it for that user
[08:50] <Jordan_U> !separatehome | ronalds
[08:51] <ronalds> I seem to can't do things on other partition without root acces
[08:51] <ubuntu_user99> i am using windows 7. i have installed all drivers properly. the machine works perfect. i installed ubuntu 12.04.2 on the latest stable version of virtualbox. it did all updates on the installation. but when it finished and i restart the virtualbox, ubuntu does not start and gives me this erorr: "ubuntu runs low graphic mode". and can not start gnome. please help me. thank you.
[08:54] <Dr_willis> you did install the vbox guest addations in  vbox ubuntu_user99 ?
[08:56] <ubuntu_user99> Dr_willis: what is guest additional? how can i istanll it on ubuntu?
[08:57] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:57] <Dr_willis> its right there in the vbox docs/manual and menu ubuntu_user99
[08:57] <cristian_c> There is a mysterious problem with my laptop. I mean, when I run the suspension, after the restore there are problems. The first of which is that the Chromium browser will no longer open (but it also does with Chrome) and if you launch it from the terminal, an error is returned
[08:57] <Dr_willis> its a package in the repos. or from a iso image. see the vbox manual at its homepage
[08:57] <Dr_willis> !vbox
[08:58] <Jordan_U> cristian_c: What is the error message?
[08:58] <sendaljepit> !vbox
[08:59] <sendaljepit> !iptables
[08:59] <dfrkp> Hi! I'm using 13.04 and I'm wondering if there is a way to access a WebDAV share via files (former Nautilus)? I'm trying "connect to server" with "dav://destination" but without success.
[08:59] <sendaljepit> cool
[08:59] <cristian_c> Jordan_U, pcilib: Cannot open /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:02.1/resource: File or directory not found
[09:01] <wald0> i have installed ubuntu on a partition a windows 8 machine, but everytime i boot on windows it changes my bios to not allow to boot ubuntu, how i can fix that ?
[09:02] <cristian_c> Also, when I try to logout or reboot the pc freezes, meaning that when I try to restart, the screen goes black and hangs there indefinitely (in the case of the log, it appears the shell with the messages, but it hangs too) and I have to brutally shut down the pc
[09:03] <sendaljepit> !firewall
[09:03] <cristian_c> I tried several solutions, from uswsusp to tuxonice, to create a special file in /etc/pm/config.d/, but these attempts have not been successful. I also checked the syslog, but also did not provide significant information about the origin of the problem
[09:04] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:08] <jiangfuqiao> 有人么
[09:08] <snikker> i've run "sudo setfacl -d -R -m g:green-group:rwx /path/to/dir1", my user is into secondary group "green-group", but i'm unable to write into "dir1". Can you help me?
[09:12] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[09:12] <yeehi> I can see my system is downloading but I would like to understand WHAT it is downloading. Is there a package with a GUI to help me look at this?
[09:12] <yeehi> Also, where it is downloading it from
[09:13] <moses_> how do i get to irssi in terminal?
[09:13] <moses_> where is it stored under?
[09:13] <moses_> moses:
[09:13] <moses_> woops
[09:13] <Dr_willis> moses,  just type 'irssi'
[09:13] <moses_> wrong channel
[09:13] <Dr_willis> I perfer weechat to Irssi ;)
[09:13] <moses_> yeah but I wanted to edit the config
[09:13] <Dr_willis> your irssi configs are in your users home.
[09:13] <MonkeyDust> irssi <3
[09:13] <Dr_willis> under .irssi i belive
[09:14] <moses_> its not working :(
[09:14] <MonkeyDust> moses_  i use irssi, what goes wrong?
[09:14] <Dr_willis> whats not working? we dont have esp.. :)
[09:14] <moses_> lol i cant cd to irssi
[09:14] <moses_> from ubuntu
[09:15] <moses_> i can google this sorry
[09:15] <MonkeyDust> moses_  it's .irssi, with a dot
[09:15] <Dr_willis> notice i said   .irssi
[09:15] <moses_> i tried cd .irssi
[09:15] <moses_> not working
[09:15] <Dr_willis> have you ran irssi yet?
[09:15] <MonkeyDust> moses_  try ~/.irssi
[09:15] <moses_> im in irssi now
[09:15] <moses_> bingo
[09:15] <moses_> tyvm, why is that so complicated?
[09:16] <MonkeyDust> moses_  it means you're not in your home folder
[09:16] <Dr_willis> its not complecated at all
[09:16] <Dr_willis> you dont understand the idea of a 'current directory' i guess?
[09:16] <moses_> what does current dir have to do with it?
[09:17] <Dr_willis> if you did 'cd foo' and foo is not in the corrent directory.. then guess what.. its not there'
[09:17] <Dr_willis> cd /the/proper/path/to/foo   would work
[09:17] <Dr_willis> you dont stick the laundry in the clotheswasher if you are not in the laundry room. ;)
[09:17] <moses_> true
[09:18] <moses_> this doesnt even seem right because theres no config when i ls?
[09:18] <Dr_willis> did you do a ls -a ? WHEN you where in your /home/yourusername dir?
[09:18] <MonkeyDust> moses_  ls -h shows the hidden folders, the ones with a dot
[09:18] <MonkeyDust> moses_  ls -a shows the hidden folders, the ones with a dot   <-- correction
[09:18] <moses_> can i turn that on manually?
[09:18] <Dr_willis> it might be time to read up on some bash basics/fundamentals..
[09:19] <moses_> yes i need bash fundamentals
[09:19] <Dr_willis> this is like chapter 1 stuff. ;)
[09:19] <MonkeyDust> moses_  you could create an alias for ls, but that's not basic ;)
[09:20] <MonkeyDust> moses_  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal#File_.26_Directory_Commands
[09:21] <moses_> how do you copy and paste in ubuntu?
[09:21] <moses_> im used to ssh only
[09:21] <Dr_willis> you mean in X? gnome-terminal ?
[09:21] <moses_> yeah i guess
[09:21] <MonkeyDust> moses_  cp copies, mv moves or renames
[09:21] <moses_> no i mean like hilight things in the terminal
[09:21] <moses_> and copy
[09:21] <ubuntu_user99> Dr_willis: guest additional is something like extension for virtual box? or it is a package (program) which we install on ubuntu?
[09:22] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_user99,  its special drivers for VBOX you install inside the guest OS.
[09:22] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu_user99  it installs on your virtual machine
[09:22] <Dr_willis> the vbox client menus has a option to 'mount the addations iso file'
[09:22] <lomo7> how can i boot into dos mode?
[09:22] <yeehi> Hello, Dr_willis - what package with a GUI can i install to examine what my network traffic is / is for / is from?
[09:22] <Dr_willis> lomo7,  what do you mean dos mode?
[09:23] <MonkeyDust> lomo7  i use dosbox to play old 90's DOS games
[09:23] <Dr_willis> !indo ntop
[09:23] <lomo7> Dr_willis: i want to flash my gpu
[09:23] <Dr_willis> !info ntop
[09:23] <ubuntu_user99>  Dr_willis: you mean package for ubuntu. so i need command line. how can i open terminal?
[09:23] <Dr_willis> lomo7,  if you want actual DOS.. use 'freedos' iso  on a usb/cd
[09:23] <Dr_willis> !manual | ubuntu_user99
[09:23] <Dr_willis> !terminal | ubuntu_user99
[09:24] <Dr_willis> or tap the super key and type 'terminal'
[09:24] <lomo7> Dr_willis: i use unetbootin to install freedos on usb but can't boot with it even when changing the bios priority boot...
[09:24] <Dr_willis> there should be numerous 'setup ubuntu in vbox' guides at askubuntu.com
[09:24] <Dr_willis> lomo7,  sounds like it dident make the usb  correctly
[09:25] <Dr_willis> ive never heard of flashing a GPU bio from DOS...
[09:25] <Dr_willis> that just seems weird.
[09:26] <lomo7> Dr_willis: well.. u do it with atiflash.exe..
[09:26] <Dr_willis> and you are SURE thats an actual DOS command?
[09:26] <lomo7> yeap
[09:26] <ph0> Anyone got any experience with mounting LDM partitions under ubuntu (12.04)?
[09:29] <ubuntu_user99>  Dr_willis: i know what is command line, terminal and how to install a package. but i can not log on on gnome.
[09:29] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_user99,  you can login at the consoles and get into a terminal.
[09:29] <ph0> to rephrase, is there any way to determine wether or not I have "Advanced Partition selection" enabled in my kernel? (vanilla 12.04 LTS )
[09:29] <MonkeyDust> ph0  is ldm something like gparted?
[09:29] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu 13.04 worked fine for me in virtualbox on windows7
[09:30] <Dr_willis> worked better after i installed the guest addations
[09:30] <ubuntu_user99> Dr_willis: ok i will try i will come here back.
[09:30] <ubuntu_user99> Dr_willis:  thank you.
[09:30] <Dr_willis> the vbox manual and askubuntu.com should have  the details.
[09:33] <ph0> MonkeyDust: No, its MS's Logical Disk Manager. Need help to mount a LDM volume.
[09:37] <MonkeyDust> ph0  i guess the peope in ##windows know best how to work with MS products
[09:37] <ph0> Im trying to mount it under ubuntu 12.04.
[09:38] <MonkeyDust> ph0  you're seeig it wrong, you mount devices, not programs
[09:38] <MonkeyDust> seeing*
[09:39] <ph0> MonkeyDust: sorry, but you do not know what you are talking about.  LDM : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Disk_Manager
[09:41] <MonkeyDust> ph0  maybe you should look for a linux way to do what LDM does
[09:42] <ph0> MonkeyDust: Well, I would. But the LDM volume holds about 1TB of data i would like to keep.
[09:43] <iceroot> ph0: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8427372/windows-spanned-disks-ldm-restoration-with-linux
[09:46] <histo> ph0: mount it in windows and pull your data out
[09:47] <ph0> iceroot: thanks, ive been through that post and it seems somewhat of an overkill.
[09:47] <ph0> histo: its an option, but not one I really would like to pursue.
[09:47] <iceroot> ph0: because of that its always a good idea to not use propritary stuff but open stuff which is implemented in all systems
[09:48] <ph0> I was hoping to be able to mount the volume even in a read-only state just to extract data.
[09:48] <histo> ph0: well then I believe you are stuck mounting the filesystem as that stackoverflow page suggests. unless they added support for LDM in LVM2
[09:48] <ph0> iceroot: amen to that.
[09:48] <johnnyfireworks> hi
[09:48] <ph0> histo: do you know if this would help me along? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-424087-view-next.html?sid=2b39722f8432edf01eff0a17c18ae96d
[09:49] <ph0> meaning, you think I would be able to mount the volume after adding that support?
[09:49] <cyneck> im a new one
[09:49] <cyneck> just can speak in enlish?
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> cyneck  yes, engish
[09:50] <MonkeyDust> cyneck  what's your own language?
[09:50] <cyneck> chinese
[09:50] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[09:50] <cyneck> thanks
[09:50] <histo> ph0: please pastebin the output of sudo parted -l /dev/of/disk
[09:51] <cyneck>  /join #ubuntu -cn
[09:52] <ph0> histo: http://pastebin.com/c9Fqx8b0
[09:54] <histo> ph0: what happens when you try to mount /dev/sdb3
[09:55] <ph0> histo: I get the "NTFS signature is missing" error.
[09:55] <sasuke> hi all
[09:55] <histo> ph0: so the filesystem is offset then inside of that area. hrm..
[09:56] <maria_> ciaooooo
[09:56] <maria_> come va?
[09:57] <histo> ph0: I'm still googling give me a few
[09:58] <Parsi> i restored my packages by using APTonCD
[09:58] <ph0> histo: thanks for your help. take all the time you need :)
[09:58] <Parsi> i open it, and hit restore
[09:58] <Parsi> it loaded somethings
[09:58] <Parsi> what should i do?
[09:59] <histo> ph0: This wasn't a fakeraid setup in windows was it?
[09:59] <Parsi> but my packages are not installed yet, should i do further more manually?
[09:59] <ph0> histo: no, just used GPT instead of MBR when creating the partition.
[10:00] <histo> ph0: Did you create an LDM ?  Using GPT instead shouldn't have done this.
[10:02] <ph0> histo: must have happened when converting the disks to Dynamic i guess?
[10:04] <histo> ph0: yes that would do it
[10:06] <moses_> anyone know what the command under the ssh_config is to add users?
[10:06] <moses_> i thought it was allowusers
[10:06] <moses_> but it doesnt come up
[10:06] <Walex2> moses_: what does that mean?
[10:07] <Dr_willis> not sure what you mean by allow users under ssh config either..
[10:07] <moses_> I want to add users to be able to login to the ssh server
[10:08] <moses_> I wanted to know if you knew what the config command was to do tha
[10:08] <Dr_willis> you just add the user.. and they can ssh in
[10:08] <Dr_willis> sudo adduser newusername
[10:08] <alexa_bg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703016/ I upgraded ubuntu from 12,10 to 13,04. Can anyone check my sources.list?
[10:09] <histo> ph0: what type of files do you need off the disk?
[10:09] <ph0> about 500GB of family photos and such :)
[10:09] <eexp> hi, anyone use grilo-plugins in totem here?
[10:10] <ph0> I know there are other ways of doind it, restore from backup etc. But all so time consuming :)
[10:10] <eexp> or say anyone use dlna client here? need help
[10:10] <histo> ph0: well the easiest would just be to mount the filesystem based on whatever offset it's at. I'm trying to find the quickest way for you to find the offset
[10:11] <ph0> oh, thanks. I really appriciate your help.
[10:12] <lqid> How do I assosciate Terminal to connect to a Telnet session when clicking a telnet:// hyperlink in Firefox?
[10:14] <sasuke> hi, is there any way to downgrade from 13.04 to 12.10
[10:14] <Dr_willis> reinstall 12.10 there is no downgrade
[10:14] <lasers> !downgrade | sasuke
[10:15] <sasuke> oh..k thanks lasers & ubottu
[10:15] <alexxio_> hi, someone wanna play with my bluetooth and see why i can't get it on? http://pastebin.com/aaZqAkkm
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> sasuke  fresh install an older version or try to solve the problem in the current, you can ask here
[10:18] <histo> ph0: I can't find an easier way other than that stackoverflow article
[10:18] <ph0> histo: then I will give that a whirl! Thanks for the help so far.
[10:19] <kantoka> hi guys
[10:19] <sasuke> MonkeyDust, thanx.. i'm facing hung issues with skype application & some times my whole system is hunging
[10:20] <kantoka> Has it been any changes on the stream for JB? Can't play it through xbmc today
[10:20] <moses_> AllowUsers adds users but where do i set their password and access levels?
[10:21] <sasuke> MonkeyDust, its work fine with the older version of ubuntu. So thought of going back to 12.10
[10:21] <Dr_willis> moses_,  where are you reading that  the SSH option AllowUsers   adds users to the system? Or are you wanting users without a home directory?
[10:22] <Dr_willis> The option AllowUsers specifies and controls which users can access ssh services. Multiple users can be specified, separated by spaces.
[10:22] <moses_> no I want them to have a home directory
[10:22] <moses_> yeah exactly
[10:22] <moses_> isnt that how to add users?
[10:22] <Dr_willis> moses_,  then you want to ADD the user to the system same as you would ad any other user
[10:22] <Dr_willis> NO..
[10:22] <Dr_willis> that ssh option sets what users CAN use ssh
[10:22] <moses_> where are proper instructins for this
[10:22] <Dr_willis> it does not say it adds a user to the system anywhere.,
[10:23] <Dr_willis> sudo adduser selectausername
[10:23] <Dr_willis> adds a default user
[10:23] <moses_> what about the password?
[10:23] <moses_> let me man this
[10:23] <Dr_willis> sudo adduser selectausername    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< try this
[10:24] <Dr_willis> Its not rocket surgery. ;)
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> useradd -m creates a home for the user
[10:24] <kantoka> can I add a girlfriend as well?
[10:24] <Dr_willis> kantoka,  if it was anyone else.. yes.. for you.. no
[10:24] <kantoka> :)
[10:24] <Dr_willis> you can add your 10 cats however.  ;P
[10:25] <histo> ph0: This page has a ton of info on ldm but that stackoverflow article will work for you. You just need to find the start of the ntfs filesystem and the end. You should be able to do this with xxd if you are experienced.
[10:26]  * histo sleep time
[10:26] <moses_> useradd seems better
[10:26] <moses_> this is for an ssh server
[10:26] <moses_> do people normally get shells
[10:26] <moses_> or home directories?
[10:26] <k1l_> moses: yep
[10:26] <ubuntu_user99> Dr_willis: is there any way to start ubuntu with console directly?
[10:26] <Dr_willis> you have to supply all the right options for useradd
[10:26] <Dr_willis> adduser gives decent defaults
[10:26] <Dr_willis> !text | ubuntu_user99
[10:26] <moses_> which defaults?
[10:27] <k1l_> but ubuntu way would be adduser, iirc
[10:27] <k1l_> !adduser
[10:27] <Dr_willis> moses_,  ones you will most likely forget.. so thats why i said  use 'adduser'
[10:27] <k1l_> moses: see the message from bot
[10:27] <kendo> hello everyone this is my first time here i'm a deprecable newbie
[10:27] <k1l_> kendo: no problem. just ask a specific question :)
[10:27] <kendo> thanks kil
[10:29] <moses_> sudo passwd username <password here>???
[10:29] <moses_> is that right?
[10:29] <kendo> i tried to install Lubuntu 13.04 on my old PIII asus P3v4x pc but installation didn't work...
[10:29] <kendo> i got "starting load fallback graphics devices fail" message
[10:29] <Dr_willis> moses_,  if you had used 'adduser' instead of useradd. it would of asked you for the new password
[10:30] <k1l_> kendo: i think that is a PAE issue. new kernels dont support no-PAE cpus. take a look if your cpu does support PAE
[10:31] <moses_> Dr_willis: I havent done anything yet
[10:31] <kendo> where dhould i search for that and what should if my cpu does not support PAE? use an older kernel version?
[10:32] <kendo> what should i do
[10:32] <moses_> does adduser automatically get a homegroup?
[10:32] <k1l_> !adduser | moses_
[10:33] <Dr_willis> homegroup? what does that mean
[10:36] <k1l_> kendo: if your cpu doesnt support that we need to think about what to do. i think there is some howto for Lubuntu for using it with non-Pae kernels
[10:37] <moses_> adduser was amazing
[10:37] <moses_> how do you give your user administrative privelages?
[10:37] <moses_> add to group admin?
[10:37] <kendo> ok i'll check....i choosed lubuntu as i read it was "dedicated" to older pc so this issue is unespected somehow....
[10:38] <basss> hello, is there a voice recognition package for ubuntu that can be ran via terminal ?
[10:39] <ubuntu_user99> Dr_willis: i dont have gup menu. because i have just ubuntu installed on VM.
[10:39] <k1l_> moses_: please read the message the bot gave you twice
[10:39] <ubuntu_user99> Dr_willis: so i an not open grup menu to select recovery mode or something..
[10:39] <k1l_> moses_: the information was all included. you just need to read it
[10:40] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_user99,  you definatly can enable the grub menu on a VM..
[10:40] <moses_> k1l_: the group admin didnt exist until i made it
[10:40] <Dr_willis> edit the grub configs to alwyas show the menu.. or hold SHIFT
[10:40] <Dr_willis> to make grub appear
[10:40] <moses_> I dont know if that group has the administrative privelages
[10:40] <ubuntu_user99> Dr_willis: yes but how?
[10:40] <Dr_willis> !grub2 | ubuntu_user99
[10:40] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_user99,  edit the option in /etc/default/grub
[10:41] <Dr_willis> or - HOLD shift as the vm boots..
[10:41] <Dr_willis> clickin it.. hold SHIFT
[10:41] <ubuntu_user99> Dr_willis: i can not open the system. i can ot log on with gnome. first i need to use console.
[10:41] <k1l_> moses_: ok, since 12.04 its the sudo group and not admin group
[10:41] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_user99,  yes.. You use the TEXT option at the GRUB menu.. and you hold SHIFT to get to the GRUB menu.
[10:42] <Dr_willis> power up the vm.. as it boots HOLD  THE SHIFT KEY
[10:43] <Dr_willis> or use a live cd/iso in the vm.. and boot it.. get to the installed system..  make grub not hide itself.
[10:43] <Dr_willis> or have it default to text mode