[20:35] <abdul> Hello, I wana become a part of Ubuntu testing team, any advices?
[20:39] <charlie-tca> You read http://qa.ubuntu.com/testing/ ?
[20:40] <abdul> yes, also followed the instructions on http://qa.ubuntu.com/testing/desktop-testing-program/
[20:45] <charlie-tca> We start testing the images for alpha1 tomorrow
[20:46] <charlie-tca> You should download them today, so you can just zsync them tomorrow
[21:02] <Sir_Konrad> Alpha 1 comes out December 2nd, right?
[21:10] <charlie-tca> yes
[21:10] <charlie-tca> We should be testing starting tomorrow
[21:40] <Sir_Konrad> charlie-tca, how will you if the alpha comes out on Thursday?
[21:41] <charlie-tca> We have images daily. tomorrow's images should be the ones that will become alpha1 if there are not major bugs
[21:42] <charlie-tca> That gives us tues and Wed to test for serious issues before the release
[21:43] <Sir_Konrad> Ah ok. I'll be able to get it from cdimages.ubuntu.com?
[21:46] <charlie-tca> yes. If you are helping test, it would be suggested to download the images today and just zsync them tomorrow
[21:47] <Sir_Konrad> charlie-tca, they're up already? o.O
[21:47] <Sir_Konrad> I'll get it tonight.
[21:47] <charlie-tca> the daily images are, not the test images for tomorrow.
[21:48] <Sir_Konrad> Ok.


[00:00] <slangasek> thumb mode, perhaps?
[00:00] <infinity> That was my guess.
[00:01] <infinity> That said, the compiler is meant to auto-guess the right thumbiness based on -march/-mcpu
[00:06]  * infinity spins up a local build.
[09:28] <cjwatson> bjf: Always installable - you're missing a "from alpha-1 onwards" there
[09:30] <cjwatson> bjf: Until we have MUCH better tool support for -proposed, it's not realistic to expect consistent installability before that
[10:48] <doko> cjwatson: component-mismatches doesn't seem to look for armel. is this expected?
[10:56] <doko> promoted to main on armel: gcc-4.7-multilib g++-4.7-multilib gfortran-4.7-multilib
[10:59] <cjwatson> doko: it's supposed to - maybe if you hadn't worked around it I could have investigated ;-)
[11:01] <cjwatson> doko: Oh, nothing to do with that actually, it just doesn't notice when packages are out of sync between architectures
[11:01] <cjwatson> doko: However, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/architecture-mismatches.txt is for this very purpose
[11:02]  * cjwatson promotes libopencc-dbg/powerpc while he's there
[11:10] <doko> ahh, good to know
[12:29] <Laney> can haskell-hjsmin please be copied precise-proposed → quantal?
[12:31] <cjwatson> You can do that yourself with Archive.copyPackage
[12:31] <cjwatson> lp-shell production devel
[12:31] <Laney> that's the recommended way now?
[12:32] <cjwatson> ubuntu = lp.distributions["ubuntu"]
[12:33] <cjwatson> ubuntu.main_archive.copyPackage(from_archive=ubuntu.main_archive, source_name="haskell-hjsmin", version="whatever", include_binaries=True, to_series="quantal", to_pocket="Release")
[12:33] <cjwatson> or something like that
[12:33] <cjwatson> we could use an ubuntu-archive-tools command for it
[12:33] <cjwatson> well, generally I prefer self-service over something that ubuntu-archive has to do
[12:33] <cjwatson> I think the above only requires upload privileges
[12:34] <Laney> yeah, I did it. I wasn't aware that it had been delegated down.
[12:35] <cjwatson> I think because normally we only do it after verification, and in that case sru-release -d deals with it
[12:35] <cjwatson> but if people explicitly want to copy from -proposed to ease testing, shrug
[12:36] <Laney> wfm
[15:51] <phillw> hi, could someone pop me the link up for the change in how 12.04 deals with 'admin' users. I'm a long way from my laptop and want to do a bit of digging about several 'paper-cuts' that seem to be becoming a theme. thanks.
[19:26] <slangasek> ScottK: fyi, the mumble qt regression I never got around to filing a report on is the bug that was just fixed in SRU ;)
[19:26] <ScottK> slangasek: Excellent.  Proves once again that procrastination pays.
[19:37] <infinity> ScottK: Hah.
[19:38] <ScottK> You act like I'm kidding.
[19:38] <infinity> I'm pretty sure you're not. ;)
[19:39] <ScottK> OK.
[20:19] <Laney> infinity: are you planning on putting your vim 'quantal' change into precise?
[20:20] <infinity> Laney: Hadn't planned on it, no.
[20:21] <stgraber> Laney: not running quantal yet? precise is SO last week ;)
[20:21] <Laney> I'd like it. Would you accept an SRU?
[20:21] <Laney> stgraber: It stole my lunch money :(
[20:21] <micahg> devscripts also doesn't seem to recognize quantal
[20:22] <infinity> SRUing for syntax hilighting seems a bit silly, but I guess for an LTS, it makes some sense.  But yeah, we'd want/need to touch everything that doesn't know about Q.
[20:23] <infinity> Traditionally, we don't do this, we just expect people to develop on the latest release. :P
[20:23] <Laney> The more painful this is, the more we can try and make sure it doesn't happen again :P
[20:23] <Laney> traditionally the name is known far enough in advance, no?
[20:23] <infinity> Laney: Sure, but that only solves the +1 issue.  If people want to SRU so P knows about Q, wouldn't they also want it to know about R and S?
[20:24] <micahg> that's why distro-info was created :)
[20:24] <infinity> But, no, traditionally we don't do this all in advance.
[20:24] <infinity> The last cycle might have been special for some packages, I dunno.
[20:24] <infinity> But vim (for instance) has traditionally always been the "first merge of the cycle", and included the syntax change.
[20:25] <tumbleweed> micahg: that's why distro-info was created, but we haven't been able to persuade enough people to use it yet...
[20:26] <Laney> at least for precise, oneiric and natty it was done before release.
[20:26] <tumbleweed> this is the first time the code name came so late
[20:26] <Laney> I think we would only want to encourage people developing to be on n-1.
[20:26] <Laney> So needn't worry about taking this stuff back too far
[20:26] <micahg> or a current LTS
[20:27] <Laney> well, I don't even know about that
[20:27] <Laney> certainly the current stable
[20:28] <micahg> developers are entitled to stability too :)
[20:28] <ogra_> thats why they gain weight all the time ;)
[20:29] <Laney> I guess if someone is willing to do the work I wouldn't mind, but I'm no SRU member.
[20:30] <infinity> File an umbrella bug about all the bits that need to know WTF a "quantal" is and start making appropriate precise tasks for each package, and we'll go from there?
[20:30] <infinity> Most of it's no-brainer 1-line backports.
[20:31] <infinity> Of course, by the time we get it all fixed, it shouldn't matter, because once the archive is stable, I do expect actual developers to be running Q.
[20:35] <Laney> bug #994208
[20:35] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 994208 in vim "Needs to know about quantal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/994208
[20:36]  * mdeslaur learns about "distro-info"
[20:52] <Laney> bah, all in main
[20:52]  * Laney adds self to core-dev.
[20:52] <infinity> Hah.
[20:52] <infinity> Just attach a bunch of debdiffs.  They must almost universally be 1-or-2-line patches.
[20:52] <infinity> I pilot tomorrow, you can beg me to sponsor them all then!
[20:53] <Laney> hardly seems worth the effort, like a debdiff for a no-change rebuild
[20:53] <infinity> Oh, for no-change ones, just note that's what's required. :P
[20:53] <infinity> (Err, they should all need changes, mind you)
[20:53] <Laney> they do, I'm just likening the two :P
[20:53] <Laney> noddy changes.
[20:54]  * infinity nods.
[21:17] <infinity> Laney: There, everything's fixed in Q (except clang, which I'm working on for other reasons), I'll put the 5 minutes into doing the same for P later. :P
[21:18] <Laney> oh, you did it?
[21:18]  * Laney just pull-lp-sourced everything
[21:18] <Laney> nice :-)
[21:33] <ScottK> tumbleweed: This is the same distro-info that made pbuilder-dist break as soon as quantal was released?
[21:33] <ScottK> It doesn't seem like much of a win.
[21:33] <infinity> Picky, picky. ;)
[21:34] <tumbleweed> ScottK: seeing as I ended up involved in it, I'm open to suggestions on reliability improvements
[21:35] <tumbleweed> we could put dummy r-series entries in, but that'll cause different confusion
[21:35] <tumbleweed> or we make it download data from somewhere, but then you've got another source of stale data...
[21:35] <infinity> Dummy entries don't seem like much help, when the real codename is what things need.
[21:36] <Laney> it was the immediate crashing in out of date data
[21:36] <infinity> People just need to be on top of updating it ASAP.
[21:36] <infinity> (And make it more robust, apparently)
[21:36] <tumbleweed> programs using it with slightly more error-handling would avoid blowups like the things ScottK is complaining about
[21:36] <Laney> pbuilder-dist really didn't need to unconditionally die then
[21:36] <tumbleweed> yeah
[21:36] <ScottK> tumbleweed: From my glance at the code it was trying to find out if something was the development release and add extra repos if not.  Rather than exploding if it can't find a development release, it could just assume adding the extra repos is OK.
[21:36] <tumbleweed> that was just due to API deficciencies
[21:37] <tumbleweed> ScottK: agreed
[21:37] <ScottK> But from a user POV, it's distro-info's fault.  If pbuilder-dist hadn't been improved to use it, all would have been fine.
[21:38] <tumbleweed> also in the worst case scenario, it could suggest what package needs updating and where to look
[21:38] <infinity> slangasek: If you want to put on an SRU hat for a couple of minutes and look at my 4 uploads in precise-proposed, that would be snazzy.  (They're bit-for-bit identical to my quantal uploads, except for changelog/version)
[21:54] <cjwatson> infinity: the text of your SRU acceptance messages suggests that perhaps you don't know about sru-accept.py in ubuntu-archive-tools (or else you need to commit your wording changes ;-) )
[21:54] <infinity> cjwatson: It suggests that I didn't use sru-accept in that case, yes. ;)
[21:57] <cjwatson> just checking ...
[21:57] <infinity> cjwatson: I'm (re-)learning all the SRU processes as I go. :P
[21:58] <infinity> My god, lintian's testsuite is more comprehensive than gcc's.
[21:59] <tumbleweed> blame nthykier


[00:10] <slangasek> ScottK: well, this was for today, and I don't know why the builds would fail when they did on account of apt - the failure is well after the actual livefs build + downloading
[05:52] <ScottK> Any thoughts on why the latest Kubuntu powerpc image failed due to unity, gnome-session, and ubuntuone-client-gnome not being installable?
[05:53] <ScottK> I've looked through the germinate output and can't find it.
[06:09] <slangasek> from what I see, ubuntuone-client-gnome has been superseded by ubuntuone-client?
[06:10] <slangasek> (based on what I've just seen in a dist-upgrade here)
[06:33] <ScottK> I've no idea how any of those even got on a Kubuntu CD, let alone fail an ISO build.
[06:33] <slangasek> heh, good point
[13:22] <charlie-tca> Desktop images failed again today; same errors as yesterday
[13:22] <charlie-tca> 2011-08-10 10:59:16 ERROR 404: Not Found.
[13:22] <charlie-tca> for many items at end of build
[14:02] <slangasek> cjwatson: do you have any idea what's up with the live builds failing to find live filesystems on the local disk?  I don't see any pertinent changes to cdimage
[14:04] <cjwatson> no, it was like that when I got back from holiday ...
[14:04] <cjwatson> I'll see if I can dig into it today then
[14:08] <slangasek> cool, thanks
[17:06] <ara> skaet, feature freeze is today eod, or tomorrow eod?
[17:06] <ara> meaning, are we safe tomorrow to upload new features?
[17:09] <iulian> ara: The latter I reckon but I'm not 100% sure.
[17:09] <iulian> It's definitely not today.
[17:16] <slangasek> freezes officially take effect at 0000UTC on the indicated day
[17:16] <slangasek> so you have about 7 hours left
[17:16] <ara> thanks slangasek
[17:58] <micahg> slangasek: I thought skaet said 18:00 UTC tomorrow
[18:00] <micahg> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/05/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t15:02
[18:05] <skaet> slangasek,  freeze time was set for tomorrow at 18:00 UTC for last couple of weeks.   More lands earlier though the better ;)
[21:14] <slangasek> skaet: ah, well, bonus development time for everyone then ;)
[21:16] <skaet> slangasek, yup.  :)


[19:30] <infinity9> question about lightdm-gtk-greeter: my login background fades out to the desktop background before i even login. how do i stop it from doing that?
[19:31] <infinity9> (i'm on a different distro, by the way. just asked in this channel because i saw lightdm-gtk-greeter is on xubuntu's github)
[19:36] <diogenes_Vx15> infinity9, i didn't quite catch you.
[19:37] <infinity9> diogenes_Vx15: i'm using lightdm to login to my xfce desktop. i have it set to display a certain background wallpaper at the login screen. however, when i get to the screen, the wallpaper fades out within a second, showing the desktop wallpaper i would see _after_ i login
[19:38] <infinity9> really, it shouldn't be doing that until after i enter my username and password, so i want to figure out why it's happening
[19:41] <diogenes_Vx15> infinity9, so you want to simply add a different wallpapper for the login screen which will be persistent up until you enter your credentials?
[19:43] <infinity9> it's not so much that i want to add a different one. i just want whatever one i add to be persistent
[19:44] <diogenes_Vx15> how did you add the current one?
[19:45] <infinity9> the standard way. i pointed lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf to an image in /usr/share/lightdm/backgrounds
[19:48] <diogenes_Vx15> infinity9, run: cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:48] <diogenes_Vx15> share the url
[19:51] <infinity9> i don't have the "nc" command. what package contains it?
[19:54] <diogenes_Vx15> infinity9, netcat
[19:56] <infinity9> diogenes_Vx15: https://termbin.com/rkvub
[20:00] <diogenes_Vx15> infinity9, try to add there: transition-duration = 10000
[20:00] <diogenes_Vx15> let's see if that makes any difference.
[20:06] <infinity9> diogenes_Vx15: that just caused it to fade slowly over several seconds rather than right away
[20:07] <diogenes_Vx15> infinity9, run: apt-file show lightdm-gtk-greeter | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:08] <diogenes_Vx15> if you don't have apt-file, install if: sudo apt install apt-file
[20:08] <diogenes_Vx15> after that run: sudo apt-file update
[20:09] <diogenes_Vx15> and only after that run the command i gave you.
[20:09] <infinity9> i'm not running the apt package manager. i'm on gentoo
[20:10] <infinity9> i believe lightdm-gtk-greeter comes with lightdm by default in this distro
[20:11] <infinity9> and i'm on lightdm 1.32.0, which appears to be the most recent version
[20:11] <diogenes_Vx15> infinity9, i thnk there should be something that overrides the config, run: ls /usr/share/lightdm/
[20:12] <diogenes_Vx15> are there any files?
[20:12] <infinity9> it just contains the "backgrounds" directory
[20:12] <infinity9> i've seen that some users have their images in /usr/share/pixmaps. could that be the issue?
[20:14] <diogenes_Vx15> ok, i'm not familiar with Gentoo but as a workaround you can increase this delay: transition-duration = 100000
[20:16] <diogenes_Vx15> also add this one: transition-type = none
[20:18] <infinity9> i'll keep looking for a solution. thanks for your help
[20:31] <infinity9> diogenes_Vx15: found it. just had to set user-background to false in lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
[20:31] <infinity9> thanks again
[20:31] <diogenes_Vx15> infinity9, no problem, glad you figured that out.
[21:54] <xu-irc21w> Hi, I have just now installed Ubuntu on my Macbook pro mid 2009 15 inches, I completly erased the OS and installed only thUbuntu (I did it on purpose). NOw suince the mac is heating up a lot I would like to install a lighter version like Xubuntu. HOw could I do that? Should I o bott pressing ALT while having a USB stick with ISO of Xubuntu flashed
[21:54] <xu-irc21w> with Balena Etcher?


[00:43] <pooltable> help just installed 11.04 in vbox how do i get the mac style on the bottem to show up and work?
[00:47] <pooltable> got it took some time to load it how do i change it add new take off what i do not need ?
[00:48] <knome> pooltable, try right-clicking, select panel -> panel preferences, tab items
[00:51] <pooltable> knome thanks
[07:53] <raevol> is there a way to "theme" xubuntu notifications so they look just like normal ubuntu notifications? without the close button, and so they go transparent when moused over?
[08:02] <Name141> is Beta2 going to be pretty much "a look in to the future to see how 11.10 will look/feel" ? (minus some stability I guess) ?
[08:09] <Sysi> raevol: you can use notify-osd/notification-daemon or whatever it's called instead of xfce4-notifyd
[08:09] <Sysi> Name141: at this point I'd say you should grab daily-live, it should be pretty close to rc/final
[08:10] <raevol> Sysi: when i did that in 11.04 it borked usb unmounting, i was getting extraneous popup windows with error messages
[08:10] <Name141> Sysi: how do I do that?
[08:10] <raevol> i don't think libnotify (or whatever it is) is integrated with thunar, or whatever handles volume management in xubuntu
[08:10] <Sysi> Name141: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/
[08:11] <Sysi> raevol: I hardly believe that's possible
[08:11] <Name141> Sysi: assuming http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/oneiric-desktop-amd64.iso for the 64bit ?
[08:12] <raevol> Sysi: what you believe and what is true aren't always the same thing
[08:12] <raevol> but i could try it again in 11.10 if you are fairly confident something has changed
[08:13] <Sysi> Name141: yes
[08:13] <Sysi> raevol: shouldn't have changed but should work anyway :P
[08:14] <Sysi> though I'm not sure, I prefer xfce4-notifyd
[10:41] <warior> Hi, is there any known bug with indicator plugin in oneiric, which makes changing volume by scrolling malfunctional?
[13:50] <ulrich> Hallo! Ich habe ein Problem mit LibreOffice unter Xubuntu 11.04, ich weiß aber nicht, ob es ein Problem von LO oder von Xfce (oder sonst von was ist)
[13:50] <knome> !de | ulrich
[13:51] <ulrich> Danke für den Tip - thanks for the hint!
[13:51] <knome> np
[15:20] <chirag_d_gr8> As soon as i installed my graphics driver and restarted, my os freezes at the boot time and i am unable to even start linux. Please help me
[15:30] <GridCube> chirag_d_gr8, you can't log into the shell?
[15:33] <chirag_d_gr8> GridCube: yes, in recovery mode also i encounter same error,
[15:33] <cousin_luigi> hello
[15:33] <GridCube> chirag_d_gr8, so you cannot press ctrl-alt-F1
[15:34] <GridCube> to go to a tty?
[15:34] <chirag_d_gr8> i did not try.
[15:34] <GridCube> try that
[15:34] <cousin_luigi> what should I delete from my homedir in order to restart with the default desktop settings?
[15:34] <chirag_d_gr8> ok
[15:34] <GridCube> !default
[15:35] <GridCube> nautilus?! D:
[15:37] <LeVarTemit> Evening guys, let me ask a noob question: so, if I understand correctly, Xubuntu 11.10 wil keep the traditional 'start menu'?  I mean, contrary to Unity & Gnome3 - correct?
[15:38] <cousin_luigi> nevermind, I managed
[15:39] <GridCube> LeVarTemit, yes
[15:39] <LeVarTemit> Awesome :)
[15:39] <GridCube> indeed
[15:40] <LeVarTemit> And what would be the drawback of Xubuntu for an "ex-ubuntu user" ?
[15:40] <GridCube> you will be using xfce instead of gnome
[15:40] <GridCube> its different
[15:40] <GridCube> thats about it
[15:41] <LeVarTemit> i can still install LibreOffice from teh software center?
[15:41] <GridCube> sure
[15:41] <GridCube> you can install everything from the software center
[15:41] <LeVarTemit> awsome² .. how about Wine?
[15:41] <GridCube> you can install everything from the software center
[15:42] <GridCube> its ubuntu using xfce, whit some other modifications, but its the same sources for everithing
[15:42] <LeVarTemit> yep
[15:43] <GridCube> if it works in ubuntu it should work on xubuntu
[15:43] <LeVarTemit> great
[15:43] <GridCube> except you want to run things highly integrated whit gnome
[15:43] <GridCube> like applets of stuff like that
[15:43] <LeVarTemit> so, no integrated IM messages integrated into the panel?
[15:44] <GridCube> those will probably not work because you will be not using gnome in the first place
[15:44] <LeVarTemit> (Empathy, gwibber, email)
[15:44] <GridCube> that one does work
[15:44] <LeVarTemit> :)
[15:44] <GridCube> ubuntuone doesnt work as far as i know
[15:44] <LeVarTemit> ah, i can do without
[15:44] <GridCube> never tried to use it tho
[15:45] <LeVarTemit> is it known what the "core people" of xubuntu want to do in the future? do they want to keep the start menu?
[15:47] <GridCube> LeVarTemit, Xubuntu uses xfce, so the roadmap for xfce is pretty much the roadmap for xubuntu
[15:47] <GridCube> http://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.10/roadmap?s[]=roadmap#roadmap_planned_features
[15:47] <GridCube> ofcourse xubuntu works on other things too
[15:47] <GridCube> but for the things you are concerned about its pretty much it
[15:48] <GridCube> xfce has no plans whatsoever to ever change the menu system
[15:49] <LeVarTemit> excellen :)
[15:49] <LeVarTemit> t
[15:49] <GridCube> :)
[15:49] <GridCube> chirag_d_gr8, could you?
[15:49] <LeVarTemit> not that i'm against tablet-y things, .. but they shouldnt throw out the good stuff
[15:50] <chirag_d_gr8> GridCube: I try your advice after some time
[15:51] <joris> How do I set a compose key to make special characters in Xubuntu ?
[15:51] <chirag_d_gr8> GridCube: do i have to press ctrl+alt+F1 during boot time or during grub display?
[15:55] <LeVarTemit> joris > you after the euro sign?
[15:55] <joris> also but also normal accents...
[15:55] <LeVarTemit> i found a solution for ubuntu, but i don know if that works for xubuntu, .. well guys?
[15:56] <joris> I know how to do it in gnome, but there seems to be nu such menu in xfce, or at least I can't find it...
[15:56] <LeVarTemit> (as for ubuntu , there was plenty of instructions on google .. the solution i use now uses the keyboard setting 'usa international with dead keys' .. if you google for that youĺl find it)
[15:57] <LeVarTemit> oh, right, then you need something else . . .
[15:57] <joris> yeah I know about dead keys, but I prefer to use a compose key
[16:00] <LeVarTemit> you could try xubuntu-offtopic
[16:00] <LeVarTemit> maybe it's more lively there
[16:00] <GridCube> joris, you have to configure they on >Configuration >keyboard >shortcuts
[16:01] <GridCube> chirag_d_gr8, after grub
[16:01] <GridCube> once the system should have started
[16:09] <LeVarTemit> does anyone know if KDE is on irc?
[16:11] <GridCube> O_o
[16:11] <GridCube> #kubuntu ?
[16:11] <GridCube> #kde ?
[16:12] <LeVarTemit> lol, it works!
[16:12] <GridCube> XD
[16:12] <LeVarTemit> no, that doesnt work
[16:12] <LeVarTemit> nevermind
[16:12] <LeVarTemit> it works!
[16:13] <XubuntuKris> Well does it work or not..
[16:13] <XubuntuKris> lol
[16:13] <LeVarTemit> it works!
[16:13] <XubuntuKris> okay
[16:14] <LeVarTemit> what do you think about KDE's applications, contrary to xubuntu's?
[16:14] <GridCube> they are different
[16:15] <LeVarTemit> do you like 'em?
[16:15] <GridCube> why that should matter?
[16:15] <GridCube> they are different
[16:15] <GridCube> thats ti
[16:16] <LeVarTemit> do you tell your wife the same if she asks what kind of person your new secretary is?
[16:16] <GridCube> not having a wife or a secretary i can not answer that
[16:16] <GridCube> ;P
[16:17] <LeVarTemit> :)
[16:19] <joris> GrindCube: it seems that you have to set it up in xorg, fingers crossed, hope it will work I am going to restart X now
[16:22] <LeVarTemit> have a pleasant evening. bye.
[16:38] <karloskar> hello, can i get some help?
[16:38] <TheSheep> !hi
[16:39] <karloskar> ok, i have some problems installing jwm
[17:03] <xubuntu288> hello
[17:44] <joris> compose key works now...
[19:08] <tom_> test
[19:31] <K4k> Can someone please help me with an xfce4-power-manager error that I'm getting. I get the error in the following pastebin link with the --no-daemon argument. http://pastebin.com/bqRm5Q8h
[19:55] <charlie-tca> run it with --sync and attach the resulting backtrace to a bug report
[19:55] <charlie-tca> file the bug with ubuntu-bug xfce4-power-manager
[19:56] <K4k> --no-daemon as well or just --sync?
[19:57] <K4k> with only --sync I get no output
[19:57] <K4k> --no-daemon --sync gives me the same output as I pasted
[19:59] <charlie-tca> and if don't use either one?
[20:00] <charlie-tca> Did you remove gnome-power-manager?
[20:04] <K4k> Does it need to be removed or just not running? I was clear on that earlier.
[20:04] <K4k> s/was/wasn't
[20:05] <K4k> well, I just removed gnome-power-manager packages and I get the same error
[20:07] <K4k> looks like the bug I'm filing has already been reported.
[20:34] <user> hi guys
[20:35] <user> :)
[20:35] <user> ...that's the official xubuntu support channel, isn't it?
[20:35] <user> ehm...is there anybody?
[20:37] <well_laid_lawn> yep
[20:37] <user> oh thanks some one is here :D
[20:37] <user> (sorry for my bad english mate XD)
[20:38] <user> so can I explain my problem or there's a particular way I should act?
[20:39] <well_laid_lawn> you just tell it :)
[20:39] <user> ok thanks :)
[20:39] <user> here's my problem:
[20:39] <user> actually I'm using Xubuntu 11.04 on an Acer 4920
[20:40] <user> the problem is that I can't register nothing from my external microphone
[20:41] <user> I looked in the alsamixer and there I can only find "Mic", "Line In", "Int Mic"
[20:42] <user> so no external mic or other similar thing
[20:42] <user> *things
[20:42] <Sysi> install pavucontrol and try with "pulseaudio settings"
[20:42] <user> done
[20:42] <user> nothing
[20:43] <user> actually I tried to modify settings in pulseaudio in alsa (also in alsa.conf)
[20:44] <user> but nothing seems to help me get a sound from this damned microphone
[20:45] <user> and actually I find this really strange cause I never had a problem like this...
[20:48] <user> ok guys I'll try to play again with pulse and alsa...
[20:48] <user> but hey let me thank you Sysi and weel_laid_down
[20:48] <user> thank you guys ;)
[20:49] <user> see u ;)
[20:49] <well_laid_lawn> !tab
[22:34] <ryan__> Hello
[22:35] <ryan__> anyone have any advice for someone who's completely new to xubuntu/linux?
[22:36] <charlie-tca> !hi | ryan__


[14:50] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, that's almost a mythbusters experiment in the making!
[14:50] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: try it:P
[14:51] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, nope.  that's why god invented virtual machines.
[14:51] <Gallomimia> i somewhat recommend against separate users, cause then your uid's will mismatch on other drives
[14:51] <axk4545> EriC^^: that doesn't make sense. you mean ubuntu and fedora have different configs that would overlap?
[14:52] <Gallomimia> seriously. google for it. there's people who have written extensive articles on the subject who need the advertising revenue from you reading their site.
[14:52] <EriC^^> axk4545: yeah like a config for a program in ubuntu and in fedora the same program different version and the same config
[14:52] <patos77> list!
[14:52] <Gallomimia> list of what?
[14:52] <axk4545> Gallomimia: ok.
[14:52] <axk4545> EriC^^: ok
[14:52] <cfhowlett> !list | pastos77
[14:52] <odisa> EriC^^: I used that dd cmd you gave me. Do I just boot into the Windows installer and try again, or is there anything else I have to do before that?
[14:52] <Gallomimia> axk4545: it's all the hidden files in your home dir that wouldsee problems
[14:52] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: what do you mean about uids mismatching? O.o
[14:53] <EriC^^> odisa: yeah just boot
[14:53] <Gallomimia> well, if you used separate users, and they had the same uid, you'd get permissions for the other user
[14:53] <EriC^^> ohh
[14:53] <EriC^^> yeah that's right
[14:53] <Gallomimia> and if you used separate users, but they had different uids, then any drives that are shared will not have the same permissions
[14:53] <Gallomimia> in the second case, you could get around it by using groups
[14:55] <Gallomimia> anyway, the small amount i read about it, and the even smaller amount i understood, seemed rather complicated and mostly not recommended
[14:55] <odisa> EriC^^: well holy cow, that worked. thank you!!
[14:55] <EriC^^> odisa: great :D no problem
[14:57] <Gallomimia> uh...is the command route supposed to hang like that?
[14:57] <Gallomimia> oh there it goes...jeeze
[14:58] <anabain> Hi there. I'm using dirdiff, to graphically compare two dirs (/home source (ext4) and its backup (external ntfs hdd)), but I'm getting this error in the middle of the comparing operation: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14731889/
[14:59] <anabain> Is there anybody who knows how to check for the file that is causing trouble? Some perl one-liner or whatever?
[14:59] <Gallomimia> anabain: that's a bug! i think... report it?
[15:00] <Gallomimia> anabain: sorry if i can't be helpful. that error looks like some bug in the scripts. if you really need to compare dirs, try diff -r on commandline
[15:01] <Gallomimia> (if you can't get the graphical one to work)
[15:18] <deadpirates> is it works ?
[15:18] <deadpirates> actually ?
[15:20] <physixer> "You must put 'source' URIs in your sources.list" ??? (on doing: sudo apt-get build-dep emacs24)
[15:23] <bekks> physixer: and?
[15:23] <physixer> bekks: what do I need to do? it doesn't install build-dependencies for emacs24 but gives this error
[15:24] <bekks> you need to enable the source repos in your package manager.
[15:25] <physixer> bekks: so uncomment all "deb-src" lines? it it safe?
[15:26] <OerHeks> physixer, it is easier to enable sources in the update menu
[15:27] <physixer> OerHeks: how?
[15:27] <OerHeks> with your mouse?
[15:27] <physixer> OerHeks: I'm using i3wm so I'm kinda blind
[15:28] <physixer> so run synaptic from command line?
[15:28] <homa> hi my friends
[15:28] <OerHeks> physixer, i dont know about i3, should have a package managment too
[15:29] <physixer> ok, how to start package-manager from the command line?
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> physixer  sudo -e /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:29] <OerHeks> synaptic > settings > repositories
[15:30] <ioria> !gksu
[15:31] <ciao> !test
[15:31] <ciao> hello here
[15:31] <ciao> everyone's busy?
[15:31] <ciao> !ping
[15:31] <kpwarr_> I am trying to unmount a drive but it is busy. I grepped in lsof with the device name, but couldn't find a responsible process. how do I figure out why the device is busy?
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> ciao  this is ubuntu support, ssk your question
[15:31] <cfhowlett> ciao, ask your ubuntu question
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> ask*
[15:33] <ciao> would be off-topic if i ask any suggestions about what laptop choose to use it with ubuntu?
[15:33] <odisa> EriC^^: So, I managed to install Windows on the drive, it boots and everything. Now, soon as I plug in my bricked SSD, it won't boot, and the BIOS doesn't list a single boot option.. Any idea on why that would be?
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> ciao  #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:33] <odisa> I plugged it out and it worked just fine again
[15:33] <ciao> thanks monkey
[15:34] <EriC^^> odisa: plug the ssd in later
[15:35] <odisa> EriC^^: While it's running?
[15:35] <EriC^^> oh
[15:35] <bst11> hi i just got a new asus x200m notebook came with win8.1 i want to enable csm to be able to instal ubuntu. plz help
[15:36] <ikonia> csm ?
[15:36] <EriC^^> legacy
[15:36] <EriC^^> bst11: you can install ubuntu in uefi
[15:37] <EriC^^> bst11: your laptop probably needs to be tricked to boot ubuntu that's all
[15:37] <bst11> oh ok Eric:
[15:37] <odisa> EriC^^: Sounds rather risky to plug it in while running. Is that safe?
[15:37] <EriC^^> odisa: i have no idea
[15:38] <EriC^^> odisa: try booting windows from the uefi menu maybe
[15:38] <bst11> how Eric: how do i do that?
[15:38] <EriC^^> bst11: did you already try installing ubuntu with uefi?
[15:38] <odisa> EriC^^: it doesn't list any boot options when the SSD is plugged in. When it's just the HDD it does.
[15:38] <bst11> no i don't know how to do that
[15:39] <EriC^^> bst11: did you download an iso?
[15:39] <bst11> yes i have the iso
[15:39] <EriC^^> did you checksum it?
[15:39] <christian_> Can I help?
[15:39] <bst11> yes
[15:39] <christian_> how
[15:39] <EriC^^> bst11: ok, make a live usb with it
[15:40] <bst11> i did
[15:40] <EriC^^> ok, boot it and try it
[15:41] <bst11> the usb shows but it doesnt boot from it but just restart the windows
[15:41] <christian_> okaz
[15:41] <christian_> you need to open your BIOS
[15:41] <bst11> EriC^^:
[15:41] <christian_> then you have to check
[15:41] <bst11> oaky
[15:42] <christian_> if you activated usb
[15:42] <bst11> there is no option for activate usb
[15:43] <bst11> i deactivated secure bot
[15:43] <bst11> ot
[15:44] <EriC^^> bst11: try disabling fastboot
[15:45] <christian_> then you have to check that USB is the first Boot Option
[15:46] <ezzieyguywuf> on the dowload site, under 32-bit, it says "for systems with less that 2 GB ram". I have an old pentium 4 that I am installing ubuntu on, so a 32-bit processor. Not sure how much ram, but does that really matter?
[15:46] <ezzieyguywuf> shouldn't I still put the 32-bit version on there?
[15:46] <bst11> i deed EriC^^:
[15:46] <ioria> ezzieyguywuf, i'd say yes
[15:47] <ezzieyguywuf> ioria: perfect, thanks
[15:47] <ezzieyguywuf> ioria: I was asking b/c the website says 64-bit is recommended
[15:47] <ioria> ezzieyguywuf, true,  how much ram do you have ?
[15:48] <OerHeks> p4 .. i would choose a light weight ubuntu, like Lubuntu or Xubuntu.
[15:48] <ioria> ezzieyguywuf, OerHeks  ^^
[15:52] <s4botage> I am having this issue on ubuntu desktop 14.04 where i can't use the search on the bar on the left. It constantly spins as if it is loading even when there is no text in that search bar
[15:54] <ioria> s4botage, you mean Dash ?
[15:55] <odisa> Apparently switching the drives in their bays solved the problem EriC^^
[15:56] <s4botage> ioria, it could be the dash, the icon is the ubuntu symbol
[15:56] <ioria> s4botage, it's the Dash
[15:57] <s4botage> ioria, any idea why it is in a constant state of searching sometimes, and i cant use it?
[15:58] <ioria> s4botage, go in SystemSettings -> Security & Privacy -> Search  and try to put it on 'off'
[16:00] <s4botage> ioria, set it to off, it is still swirling as if it is loading
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> s4botage  can you look for something?
[16:02] <s4botage> no, if i type things in nothing happens
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> s4botage  and with alt-f2?
[16:04] <s4botage> MonkeyDust, that will load just fine.
[16:04] <binamkayastha> v
[16:04] <kpwarr_> MonkeyDust: my crazy plan to fix my ubuntu install actually worked
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> kpwarr_  that's great, but i guess you're addressing the wrong person
[16:05] <kpwarr_> oh woops
[16:07] <bhalash> lol
[16:08] <jambooja> hello ubuntu!!
[16:09] <Guest95025> cc
[16:11] <linux_> lm17
[16:11] <ioria> s4botage, you did an upgrade ?
[16:12] <OerHeks> ioria, i think s4botage should look with top/htop if there are zombie processes
[16:13] <ioria> OerHeks, found this command ...  unity --reset-icons
[16:13] <cristian_c> hello
[16:13] <ioria> OerHeks, it's said to interfere with dash ....
[16:14] <cristian_c> How could I add a new daemon/service at boot?
[16:14] <ezzieyguywuf> OerHeks: hmmm, I can istall regular ubuntu then just download lxde or xfce and login through that at the login manager, right?
[16:14] <cristian_c> previously, I placed a script into rc2.d / initrd
[16:14] <cristian_c> when there was upstart
[16:15] <cristian_c> What have I to change with systemd?
[16:15] <ioria> ezzieyguywuf, why ? just install Lubuntu
[16:15] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[16:16] <ezzieyguywuf> ioria: why not - maybe the p4 can handle the gnome stuff
[16:16] <OerHeks> ezzieyguywuf, you could, but not installing at the login manager, only from a running ubuntu, which is too heavy. i would download a lighter version and burn on dvd
[16:16] <ezzieyguywuf> I never understood why canonical ships all these differente 'buntu flavours
[16:16] <ezzieyguywuf> it's the same os, jsut different DE
[16:16] <ioria> ezzieyguywuf, so and so... more not than yes ...
[16:16] <s4botage> ioria, yes
[16:17] <OerHeks> ezzieyguywuf, we don't understand why you want to use such old hardware, ubuntu/unity is not suited for p4
[16:17] <ioria> s4botage, dpkg -l unity-scope-home
[16:17] <ezzieyguywuf> OerHeks: it's the only hardware I have. I would put Arch on it, but it's for my brother and he's familiar and comfortable administering an ubuntu install
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> ezzieyguywuf  some flavours are more suited for old software, others look more like gnome2 etc
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> ezzieyguywuf  if you don't like a flovour, you have the freedom to use another
[16:19] <OerHeks> ezzieyguywuf, if that machine does not come with a 256 mb videocard, regular ubuntu won't start, just saying.
[16:20] <ezzieyguywuf> OerHeks: that's fine, I'll ssh into it and sudo apt-get install lxde
[16:20] <ezzieyguywuf> nbd
[16:20] <ioria> ezzieyguywuf,  lubuntu-desktop , if you really want
[16:20] <OerHeks> yeah, but you need to run it first to install ssh service.. anyway good luck with trying
[16:21] <jri2594> hola
[16:21] <ezzieyguywuf> ioria: indeed
[16:22] <ezzieyguywuf> OerHeks: y'all have convinced me to download the lubuntu
[16:22] <ezzieyguywuf> I still am not convinced I can't do it with a vanilla ubuntu
[16:22] <ezzieyguywuf> most distros ship with ssh installed, and running as a daemon
[16:22] <ioria> ezzieyguywuf, you won't tell us how much ram ?
[16:22] <s4botage> ioria, verion: 6.8.2+14.04.201
[16:23] <ioria> s4botage,    can you paste dpkg -l unity-lens-*  ?
[16:23] <OerHeks> ezzieyguywuf, ubuntu does not.
[16:24]  * OerHeks wonders what linux distro does come with preinstalled sshservice running.
[16:24] <s4botage> ioria, http://pastebin.com/pZmr4E7G
[16:24] <ezzieyguywuf> ioria: I'll tell you once I boot up the livecd and find out
[16:24] <ezzieyguywuf> OerHeks: good to know
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> ezzieyguywuf  in ubuntu, you have to install openssh-server and/or -client
[16:25] <ioria> ezzieyguywuf, right
[16:25] <ezzieyguywuf> OerHeks: and you're right actually, I was dumb, you do have to manually start sshd, not to mention set up a user
[16:25]  * ezzieyguywuf *facepalm*
[16:25] <ioria> s4botage,    loks ok
[16:25] <Gotham25> I cannot dual boot Ubuntu alongside Windows 10. Currently I'm running Windows 10 in Dell Inspiron 5558 in UEFI Boot Mode.
[16:25] <ioria> *looks
[16:26] <OerHeks> ezzieyguywuf, maybe the mini iso is the best choice, you could select any desktop, but it needs wired networking to install.
[16:27] <ioria> ezzieyguywuf, you can try this command  unity --reset-icons    but it will reset Unity and log you out
[16:28] <ioria> s4botage,   , you can try this command  unity --reset-icons    but it will reset Unity and log you out
[16:28] <ezzieyguywuf> OerHeks: I have wired networking
[16:28] <ezzieyguywuf> I'm going to try lubuntu though, see how the p4 handles it
[16:29] <ioria> ezzieyguywuf, you'll be fine if you have at leat 1G ram
[16:30] <s4botage> ioria, I will give that a try in a little bit. Thank you for the help so far.
[16:30] <ioria> s4botage,   you're welcome
[16:34] <Gotham25> I cannot dual boot Ubuntu alongside Windows 10. Currently I'm running Windows 10 in Dell Inspiron 5558 in UEFI Boot Mode.
[16:34] <acollins> can anyone tell me how to customise the dhcp-options of the dnsmasq started by NetworkManager for a wifi access point?
[16:39] <odisa> I thought I bricked my SSD by updating the firmware, because it wouldn't show up in Windows devmgmt. But it showed up in GParted. I formatted the drive, and created a new GPT partition table, and a new NTFS partition, yet it won't mount.. Any ideas as to why?
[16:44] <OerHeks> odisa, does that ntfs show up in windows? if not, that ssd is really bricked.
[16:45] <odisa> OerHeks: I haven't tried in Windows after that yet. I was going to try mounting it through the terminal first
[16:45] <OerHeks> unless it is exfat instead of ntfs, then you should install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
[16:49] <anonymous287> hello
[16:50] <anonymous287> i have a very long list of paquets to install, my question is how to install them with one clic
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> anonymous287  a list in a text file?
[16:51] <anonymous287> yes
[16:51] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install <paste list>
[16:51] <ioria> cat packages.txt | xargs sudo apt-get install
[16:51] <tsp`> if you have the list in a text file, you can use `sudo apt-get install $(cat <file>)` in a terminal to install all of them
[16:51] <OerHeks> more ways to get it doen indeed
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> anonymous287  or   cat [file] | xargs sudo apt install
[16:51] <OerHeks> *done
[16:51] <OerHeks> but not in one click :-)
[16:52] <anonymous287> the problem with sudo apt is that it just install the 3 first only
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> anonymous287  no it dosnt
[16:52] <anonymous287> i ll try again
[16:52] <ioria> -y option
[16:53] <AlexPortable> How can I get the package name via software center?
[16:53] <odisa> OerHeks: I guess I'll try in Windows again, because mounting through the terminal doesn't appear to be working
[16:54] <OerHeks> AlexPortable, there is a search bar in softwarecenter
[16:54] <AlexPortable> yes
[16:54] <AlexPortable> i found the thing i want to install
[16:54] <AlexPortable> now i want to get the package name to install it via apt-get on another machine
[16:54] <BluesKaj> odisa, is this a uefi equipped machine?
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  you can read the name in the applications info page
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  or description, rather
[16:55] <odisa> BluesKaj: Honestly don't recall. Boot menu says BIOS
[16:55] <AlexPortable> nope
[16:55] <AlexPortable> oh there
[16:55] <BluesKaj> odisa, how old is the machine and do you recall which Windows it came with?
[16:56] <AlexPortable> thanks
[16:57] <odisa> BluesKaj: It's 4 years old, an ASUS K55VD, it came with 7 Ultimate, but I've changed it about 6 times.. Had it running 8.1, then single boot Ubuntu, then dual-boot 8.1/12.04, then single boot Windows 10, then dual boot W10/U14.04
[16:57] <odisa> now I want it single boot Ubuntu 14.04
[16:57] <anonymous287> it s not working with me
[16:58] <AlexPortable> whats the difference between ubuntu-restricted-extras and flashplugin-installer ?
[16:58] <odisa> OerHeks: it showed up! and is mounted in Windows
[16:58] <odisa> I guess I can move on to installing Ubuntu on it now finally
[16:58] <ioria> anonymous287, post  the packages file
[16:58] <odisa> maybe I should run the factory repair software on it to be safe, but I don't want to push my luck
[17:00] <anonymous287> thanks but i ll find a solution
[17:00] <AtTheGates> Hi
[17:00] <AtTheGates> Why is Ubuntu Software Centre so slow?
[17:02] <xangua> AtTheGates: because it's written in python 2, use synaptic, terminal, etc.
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> in xenial, the software center will be replaced by something else... i already installed the ppa in a xenial vm
[17:04] <Sventrapapere> a
[17:04] <odisa> So, if I have a dedicated OS drive, is it better to do a custom install instead of the express Ubuntu install?
[17:04] <odisa> i.e. I don't really need data space on that drive, so wouldn't it make more sense to enlarge the system partitions?
[17:05] <compdoc> you want small as possible?
[17:05] <BluesKaj> odisa, express install?
[17:06] <Sventrapapere> is there a channel irc ubuntu offtopic?
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> !ot
[17:07] <Sventrapapere> thanks you
[17:09] <anonymous287> idm works with wine?
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> what's idm
[17:10] <axk4545> can I turn ubuntu desktop into ubuntu gnome? I really don't want to reinstall.
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> axk4545  unity is a shell over gnome3
[17:10] <baizon> axk4545: yes you can
[17:11] <anonymous287> MonkeyDust Internet Download Manager
[17:11] <anonymous287> (idman)
[17:11] <xangua> axk4545: install Ubuntu-gnome-desktop , but if you wanna get rid of unity reinstall would be a better idea
[17:11] <axk4545> xangua: ok. darn.
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> axk4545  or install gnome-panel
[17:12] <k1l_> anonymous287: what do you need idm for? there is pyload
[17:12] <xangua> anonymous287: there's lots of download managers in Linux, the most popular one seems to be Uget and it also works on Windows and Android
[17:13] <anonymous287> is it faster than idm?
[17:13] <anonymous287> and has it browser integration?
[17:14] <xangua> If you mean Uget it does with Firefox (with Flashgot add-on)
[17:15] <anonymous287> ok i ll try it
[17:15] <anonymous287> (now i m using downthemall extension
[17:19] <mizushima> ss
[17:20] <mizushima> anyone :::
[17:21] <k1l_> mizushima: just ask
[17:21] <anonymous287> please how to create a script shell to install a long list of something like this:  libmono-system-reactive-observable-aliases0.0-cil
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> anonymous287  collect all the package names in a txt file, then type   cat <file> | xargs sudo apt install
[17:24] <thibaud_at> quel canal chosiir
[17:24] <thibaud_at> quel canal chosir
[17:24] <anonymous287> i have to do cd /directory/ before?
[17:24] <mizushima> test :D
[17:24] <cfhowlett> !fr | thibaud_at
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> anonymous287  stay in the directory where you created the file
[17:25] <anonymous287> ok
[17:27] <odisa> BluesKaj: Yeah, I mean the regular install. Would it be better to do some custom partitioning considering I'm not going to use the drive for data storage anyway?
[17:27] <odisa> So as to leave more room for the system
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> anonymous287  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[17:28] <odisa> I plan to use Tweak to symlink the home folder to a secondary hdd
[17:29] <anonymous287> the process stops when it ask me if i would like to continue
[17:29] <RSilva> oi
[17:29] <RSilva> oi
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> RSilva  this is ubuntu support, ask your question
[17:30] <cfhowlett> RSilva, this is ubuntu support.  ask you ubuntu questions
[17:30] <axk4545> how do I set synaptic as default for packages?
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> cookie @ cfhowlett
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> :)
[17:30] <anonymous287> it walk
[17:30] <anonymous287> thank you
[17:30] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, :)
[17:31] <anonymous287> now i have to wait one hour to install 198 mb
[17:31] <BluesKaj> odisa, I don't use the gpt partition table on my laptop which had uefi/gpt, since at the time i didn't want windows on the drive, so i wiped it clkean and created an etc4 partition for / and the rest for /home...but I can't advise you to take such drastic measures
[17:31] <anonymous287> mo
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> anonymous287  sit back, have a coffee, watch netflix...
[17:32] <odisa> BluesKaj: I don't plan to put Windows on it anymore. What's the benefit of using etc4 over gpt?
[17:32] <anonymous287> i ll show shameless :D
[17:32] <odisa> or did you mean ext4?
[17:33] <odisa> I only used NTFS so that Windows would recognize it, so that I could use the factory software to check the drive. Plan now is to use ext4 for the new Ubuntu install.
[17:34] <BluesKaj> odisa, gpt is a windows partition table not a hdd filesystem, the linux partition table is still dos which ext4 runs on just fine
[17:34] <anonymous287> MonkeyDust , can tell me why my ports are close,  i add rules to my firewall and to my router but when i check in canyouseeme websites it tell me that that ports are closed
[17:34] <odisa> BluesKaj: Are you suggesting I switch the partition table to MSDOS?
[17:35] <BluesKaj> odisa, no, not at all
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> anonymous287  i guess, all ports are closed by default, in linux/ubuntu
[17:36] <odisa> BluesKaj: So which partition table would you recommend for a linux install then?
[17:36] <Remind1> BluesKaj: Okay, I'm back sorry about that!
[17:36] <BluesKaj> but I'm suggesting the uefi/gpt table is at the root of your problem and you need to install ubuntu to the uefi boot partition if you haven't already done so.
[17:37] <BluesKaj> odisa,^
[17:37] <anonymous287> MonkeyDust , but i allowed some ports in my firewall and my router , they have to be open after that no?
[17:38] <llutz> anonymous287: have you any services listening on those "opened" ports at all?
[17:39] <anonymous287> llutz yes
[17:39] <odisa> BluesKaj: Ahh gotcha. Well at this point I've formatted the drive and created a fresh partition table and an NTFS partition.. wouldn't that overwrite the eufi boot partition?
[17:39] <Remind1> BluesKaj: Not sure if you remember my issue or not, I did a clean install of Ubuntu 15.10, removed/purged everything from the install to do with NVIDIA, and did a fresh install of the drivers. It seemed to have worked because I do have access to nvidia-settings and my System Information shows GTX 950M as the GPU
[17:40] <llutz> anonymous287: and can you access those services from WAN?
[17:40] <Remind1> BluesKay: But, when I play games, the texture isn't the greatest quality. Not like what it was on my Windows Environment for the same game(s)
[17:40] <anonymous287> yeah
[17:40] <sdfsdfff> Anyone familiar with the mtrack driver for touchpads on laptops? I got everything working apart from right-click. Right-click will only work when using two or more fingers.
[17:40] <Remind1> BluesKay: So I was guessing as to whether or not it could still be pulling from the integrated graphics card, and not the GTX 950M, although the nvidia-settings are set to Performance (NVIDIA)
[17:41] <llutz> anonymous287: then "canyouseeme" (whatever that is) reports nonsense. ignore it
[17:41] <odisa> BluesKaj: When I start my laptop with only that SSD in it, it goes straight to boot menu where it lists nothing. Doesn't that mean that there's no boot flags/partitions on it?
[17:42] <anonymous287> ok
[17:44] <hexhaxtron> How can I start pulseaudio on boot?
[17:45] <anonymous287> i have some applications that we can open only by terminal, can i create a script to launch it just by double clic :D
[17:45] <BluesKaj> odisa, assume the ssd is an add on ?
[17:45] <user_> hi
[17:45] <user_> how i install vlc?
[17:45] <homa> hi my friends
[17:45] <k1l_> hexhaxtron: what is the real issue? pulseaudio should be started as default
[17:45] <anonymous287> try    apt-get install vlc
[17:45] <k1l_> user_: install the "vlc" package
[17:46] <user_> thanks
[17:46] <anonymous287> or look in the software center
[17:46] <homa> user : sudo apt-get install vlc
[17:46] <k1l_> user_: open the software center and search there
[17:46] <user_> thanks anonymous287 and k1l_
[17:47] <anonymous287> k1l_ dont repeat what i told hhhhhh
[17:48] <odisa> BluesKaj: To avoid confusion, here's the full backstory of my system: had 2 drives; 1 SSD for dual-boot Windows/Ubuntu, and 1 HDD for file storage. I formatted the SSD, installed Ubuntu with custom partitions and got a GRUB error upon boot. (in retrospect I may have done 2 things wrong, mainly not creating a fresh table and perhaps I had to set grub_boot flag to the /boot). Came on here, someone said it may be a firmware issue, and t
[17:48] <odisa> Now, Samsung doesn't like linux apparently, and I had to use their Server software to manually update the firmware, after which it seemed to have bricked.
[17:49] <anonymous287> user_  the default video player of ubuntu is very good too
[17:49] <odisa> Anyway, somehow managed to fix all that, so now all I want is to put a single boot Ubuntu on my SSD.
[17:50] <anonymous287> llutz you are here?
[17:51] <odisa> But, seeing as I only use the SSD for my OS, I want to do the custom partitioning installation so as to reserve the most space possible for the system, rather than what I presume to be the default of leaving some for files
[17:53] <BluesKaj> odisa, setup legacy mode in the uefi/bios with the ssd as first in the boot sequence , and your partitioning plan should work
[17:53] <taptoula> Hi all, can someone please help me find a way to install mondorescue on 15.10 ? I can only find packages for 15.04 on the official website and I really need a hot backup bare metal solution. Thanks !
[17:54] <llutz> anonymous287: ?
[17:54] <BluesKaj> odisa, alosdisable secure and fast boo tin the bios
[17:54] <cfhowlett> taptoula, compile from source
[17:54] <taptoula> cfhowlett: I'll look into that
[17:55] <odisa> BluesKaj: I'll check which mode it's in.. Why would it not work otherwise?
[17:55] <anonymous287> llutz , do you knew how to create a script for application that launch only by terminal
[17:55] <BluesKaj> odisa, correction, also disable secure and fast boot tin the bios
[17:55] <ivan_> hola
[17:55] <llutz> anonymous287: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141229/how-to-add-a-shell-script-to-launcher-as-shortcut
[17:56] <johnnyw> hey, is there any way to download iTunes TV Shows/Movies (Music seems to work on iTunes 10) in Ubuntu?
[17:57] <anonymous287> thanks
[17:58] <g105b> What tool can I use to overdub an audio track to an existing video? I want to keep the existing sound in the video file but overlay another track in the background.
[17:59] <cfhowlett> johnnyw, install virtualbox, install windows to vbox, install tunes to windows
[17:59] <cfhowlett> g105b, audacity
[17:59] <g105b> cfhowlett: onto video?
[17:59] <johnnyw> ok, thanks
[17:59] <cfhowlett> g105b, actually scratch that.  openshot
[18:00] <g105b> cfhowlett: so I have to re-render the video too?
[18:00] <aidan_> what is the package name for the ubuntu usb creator
[18:00] <linocisco> what is the download manager which can resume download?
[18:01] <cfhowlett> g105b, as I understand it, to embed new audio, you would have to but ...
[18:01] <g105b> to but?
[18:01] <g105b> sorry I don't understant
[18:01] <SchrodingersScat> linocisco: wget has wget -c for continue
[18:02] <cfhowlett> g105b, you can lay new audio with ffmpeg / avconv as well but I don't know if you can play 2 audio tracks simultaneously.  You are describing dubbing, yes?
[18:02] <xangua> linocisco: that depends on the server side really
[18:02] <xangua> Not the download manager
[18:02] <g105b> cfhowlett: overdubbing
[18:02] <BluesKaj> or the browser
[18:02] <ioria> airtonix_, usb-creator-gtk
[18:03] <cfhowlett> g105b, right.  never done that one but it is doable with linux tools.  #ubuntustudio might have answers or /r/linux_filimmaking
[18:05] <cfhowlett> g105b, let us not neglect, kdenlive and cinelerra tools
[18:05] <g105b> cfhowlett: I've used kden to render the video with audio, but now I want to add another audio track. I don't need to modify the video at all, so thought I may be able to skip the lengthy render.
[18:06] <cfhowlett> g105b, sounds exactly like the type of project one would fire up ffmpeg to address but I've never done so do not know details.
[18:09] <g105b> Yeah that's my situation too, thought I'd ask for advice in here.
[18:10] <cfhowlett> g105b, :)  doable --- just gotta know where to look.
[18:16] <physixer> sudo sed -i -e 's/^# deb-src/deb-src/' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get build-dep emacs24 && sudo sed -i -e 's/^deb-src/# deb-src/' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update; # over and out
[18:16] <physixer> /r/iamverysmart
[18:17] <zproc> hello
[18:17] <anonymous287> hi
[18:18] <zproc> i'm on ubuntu-gnome and have ubuntu-desktop installed, but i have a lot of problems with the two installed, if i want to remove ubuntu-desktop unity, can i just do apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop (i'm not sure of the name of the meta-package)?
[18:19] <homa> good bye my friends
[18:19] <zproc> i might try to remove gnome-shell / ubuntu-gnome-desktop and keep unity tho... to see if it's any better
[18:20] <fox__> #spatry
[18:23] <linocisco> how to install GUI based card game called UNO?
[18:30] <CalebW> I'm having some problems with updating my computer
[18:31] <LambdaComplex> CalebW: Then say what the problems are
[18:31] <CalebW> When the Software updater pops up it only wants to do a partial upgrade
[18:33] <CalebW> When I attempt to do the partial upgrade it want to remove 671 packages, install 16 new ones, and upgrade 5
[18:33] <k1l_> CalebW: run a "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" in terminal. and put the output into paste.ubuntu.com and link it hjere
[18:34] <k1l_> CalebW: you can press N for no, and then show the output
[18:34] <CalebW> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14753402/
[18:35] <k1l_> CalebW: ok, what did you do before?
[18:35] <CalebW> Nothing...
[18:36] <CalebW> I've just been doing regular upgrades
[18:36] <CalebW> Nothing too major that I can remember
[18:39] <k1l_> CalebW: "i didnt do anything" doesnt bring you such a situation. please look into /var/log/apt/history.log
[18:48] <lanevorockz>    /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER lanevorockz vjhsfqejlclt
[18:48] <M-JLuc> that looks like a password lanevorockz
[18:48] <lanevorockz> =)
[18:49] <lanevorockz> email validation nothing to worry about
[18:49] <M-JLuc> does it open your stock options wallet  also ?
[18:50] <lanevorockz> just the bank account
[19:04] <linocisco> how to install GUI based card game called UNO?
[19:04] <ioria> linocisco, you mean uno-darmstadt ?
[19:04] <linocisco> ioria, it is just text based. I want GUI based
[19:05] <frostschutz> for uno you need a round table, friends, and beer :D
[19:05] <catopett> Why UNO?
[19:05] <catopett> Why not SOLITARE?
[19:06] <CalebW> kiL_: could that be a problem?
[19:08] <subsume> what would be a good way to capture, process, and report on logoutput in real time, aka collecting and chunking IP ranges
[19:09] <subsume> i guess this is what people use logly for
[19:10] <lanevorockz> how about ELK ?
[19:10] <s455wang> any way to disable apport as non-root when running a specific program?
[19:11] <subsume> cool
[19:11] <subsume> apport?
[19:11] <s455wang> crash reporting
[19:13] <s455wang> basically I have a program A that spawns a process for program B, and reports back the status of B. If B crashes, apport will intercept the crash and A will wait forever for B until a timeout. But A never recognizes that B crashed.
[19:18] <ioria> linocisco,  i found this, is a clone and very old .... really don't know if it'll work http://www.altabrianza.org/chiamauno/packages/ubuntu/chiamauno_2.0.5-1_all.deb
[19:19] <linocisco> ioria, thanks . something is better than nothing.
[19:19] <ioria> linocisco,  nevermind, not working
[19:20] <linocisco> ioria, yes.here too
[19:21] <ioria> linocisco,  i try with the source
[19:23] <linuxgeek> i'm using 15.10. sudo apt-get update fails due to <<Temporary failure resolving 'in.archive.ubuntu.com'>>. with root login, apt-get update works.
[19:24] <nahtnam> Hey!
[19:24] <linocisco> hi all, traceroute is not available in ubuntu
[19:24] <linocisco> how to install traceroute? apt-get install traceroute is not ok
[19:24] <nahtnam> I installed a program through brew linux, and its working fine in terminal. I am trying to add it to the keyboard shortcuts settings but it doesnt seem to run the command
[19:25] <nahtnam> https://i.imgur.com/MRr5IIf.png
[19:25] <nahtnam> Thats what it looks like in the settings
[19:34] <ioria> linocisco,  sorry too old, it wants gambas2  , only for precise
[19:34] <linocisco> ok
[19:34] <shantorn> hi, i am running 15.10 and am wondering if there is software that will allow me to program all of my buttons on me logitech performance mx mouse with darkfield tech
[19:45] <ElBraulio> hi
[19:45] <samsruti> Hey :D
[19:45] <samsruti> Please do like this image :)
[19:46] <samsruti> https://www.facebook.com/kiitfest/photos/a.955240111224532.1073741837.753320578083154/964334560315087/?type=3&theater
[19:46] <samsruti> Thanks in Advance :D :D
[19:46] <ciccio> hey
[19:47] <k1l_> samsruti: this is not the right channel for this. this is support only
[19:48] <Alexendar> sorry for that
[19:49] <S_J> http://lpaste.net/151272 <- I cannot get interrupts to work, what is wrong with my code?
[19:50] <S_J> it all works when using a timer (see code) so the reading and writing to outputs works. I just never get an interrupt when using interrupts
[19:59] <ubuntu763> hi guys
[19:59] <ubuntu763> i have a quistion is it better to install gnome on ubuntu or install ubuntu gnome
[20:00] <baizon> ubuntu763: install ubuntu gnome
[20:00] <baizon> ubuntu763: else you will have all the unity dependencies
[20:01] <Bashing-om> ubuntu763: My take, in the short term makes no difference .. long term then clean fresh install ubuntu-GNOME .
[20:03] <dreadkopp> is there a ubuntu live image suitable for 32bit UEFI ?
[20:05] <ubuntu763> is there a maintenance differens
[20:05] <k1l_> no. there are only some windows tablets usinf 32bit uefi.
[20:05] <ubuntu763> between ubuntu and ubuntu-gnome
[20:06] <k1l_> ubuntu763: no, they share the same packages for firefox etc. only the desktop (ghome-shell) related packages are different
[20:06] <nolsen> How to activate unity smart scope?
[20:07] <ubuntu763> and the backup suport is the same
[20:07] <k1l_> ubuntu763: "backup support"ß
[20:07] <k1l_> ?
[20:08] <aurelien__ceghnu> yop, does anyone know what's iw Linux command means ?
[20:08] <ubuntu763> ubuntu-unity is a big comunity how is that whit gnome
[20:08] <llutz> aurelien__ceghnu: iw (8)               - show / manipulate wireless devices and their configuration
[20:09] <aurelien__ceghnu> yep but the i and the w don't mean nothin
[20:09] <aurelien__ceghnu> ifconfig -> interface configuration
[20:09] <llutz> aurelien__ceghnu: interface wireless
[20:09] <aurelien__ceghnu> it should be wireless interface
[20:09] <aurelien__ceghnu> iwconfig
[20:09] <llutz> aurelien__ceghnu: interface wireless config -> iwconfig
[20:09] <aurelien__ceghnu> -> wiconfig
[20:10] <k1l_> aurelien__ceghnu: see tha manpage or the projects homepage
[20:10] <aurelien__ceghnu> ok ^^"
[20:10] <k1l_> ubuntu763: gnome is a big community too
[20:10] <aurelien__ceghnu> i already watched it and didn't find anythink
[20:12] <k1l_> aurelien__ceghnu: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/iw  seems like you need to ask the linux wireless guys
[20:13] <aurelien__ceghnu> Thanks for your helps guys, have a nice day
[20:14] <stacks88> when you do : adduser bob , then adduser bob sudo - now you've added him to sudo , but is the fact that you added bob to sudo stored somewhere? i.e i thought i'd see 'bob' in /etc/sudoers but i dont
[20:15] <k1l_> stacks88: its not put into sudoers. since there is already the entry for "users that are in the sudo group"
[20:16] <stacks88> ah ok
[20:17] <kurt__> Hey, just curious if anyone can answer this for me. In the latest version of Ubuntu what is the nvidia driver version provided by the driver manager? and does it support bumblebee if you use a laptop with an integrated intel gpu and dedicated nvidia?
[20:18] <k1l_> kurt__: ubuntu doesnt use bumblebee anymore but uses the official nvidia-prime since some time. yes, that supports the hybrid video cards
[20:19] <kurt__> Ahh right so if I use Ubuntu it'll be noproblem switching between the integrated intel card and nvidia card?
[20:19] <Bashing-om> kurt__: ^^ See the result ' apt-cache show nvidia-prime ' .
[20:20] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/nvidia-drivers-ubuntu
[20:21] <kurt__> Bashing-om: I'm not on Ubuntu I'm on LMDE 2 at the moment but having driver issues so was wondering about ubuntu
[20:22] <kurt__> k1l_: the nvidia-prime does it work similiar to how I use my bumblebee now? where I can use the command "primusrun app name" to run the game or app with my nvidia card?
[20:26] <Bashing-om> kurt__: nvidia-prime works well to switch graphics sets . but not in the same manner as that of Bumble-Bee. There will be a learning curve .
[20:27] <kurt__> How would I use nvidia-prime if I switch to ubuntu for a later driver?
[20:28] <kurt__> is it not the same as primusrun appname ?
[20:29] <dreadkopp> is it possible to install ubunut from a fedora live system? is there even a guide perhaps?
[20:30] <OerHeks> why not run the ubuntu live system?
[20:30] <dreadkopp> because it is not working on this x86uefi craplet
[20:31] <OerHeks> oh yeah, i386 and uefi .. but there should be a workround
[20:32] <dreadkopp> tried it by adding bootia32.efi and starting starting ubuntu live via grub cmdline but i am thrown into initramfs busybox becaus 'no image containing a live system was found'
[20:34] <dreadkopp> since 'fedlet' (fedora based) is the only linux distribution supporting uefi_x86 oob i thought it would be the easiest way to install ubuntu from there
[20:34] <OerHeks> answer jan 2 > http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support
[20:35] <odisa> Thanks everyone for the help, got Ubuntu running finally :) Gotta run, be well!
[20:36] <Bashing-om> dreadkopp: Also : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2254317 ; Might help .
[20:38] <dreadkopp> OerHeks: second answer was exactly what i did.. but just loads kernel+ininitramfs and then goes to busybox.. will try the approach in the first answer
[20:44] <alb-ot> hello, how do i know if i'm using unity?
[20:44] <alb-ot> with ubuntu 14.04? where i can find the check
[20:44] <AlexRussia> hey
[20:44] <AlexRussia> does domebody know, ubuntu have irc client, available from browser?
[20:45] <AlexRussia> just like freenode do
[20:45] <dreadkopp> AlexRussia: use pidgin.. if you want a browserbased irc client use kiwiirc.com
[20:45] <AlexRussia> dreadkopp: I just wanna push one silly user to irc easily
[20:45] <AlexRussia> dreadkopp: but thanks
[20:46] <AlexRussia> Wait
[20:46] <dreadkopp> kiwiirc is pretty straightforward :)
[20:46] <AlexRussia> Is this main ubuntu channel?
[20:46] <AlexRussia> Oh, LOL
[20:46] <AlexRussia> So I know what to do then
[20:46] <AlexRussia> I just long time ago heard something about own ubuntu network...silly I'm :)
[20:47] <alb-ot> how can i change the position of an indicator in the top bar of default ubuntu 14.04?
[20:47] <alb-ot> it's pretty horrible
[20:48] <SchrodingersScat> AlexRussia: there's irc.ubuntu.com, but it it points to chat.freenode.net
[20:49] <AlexRussia> SchrodingersScat: ah, now everything is clear, thanks :)
[20:50] <Able2Help> AlexRussia: or you can use webchat.freenode.net
[20:50] <mcd_> czesc
[20:50] <hexafraction> Is there any reliable tool with which I can back up an NTFS partition containing Windows, including all filesystem metadata, security identifiers, alternate data streams, etc, but not free space (as would be saved when taking a "normal" disk image)?
[20:50] <AlexRussia> Able2Help: already
[20:50] <mcd_> somebody here from pl?
[20:51] <SchrodingersScat> !pl | mcd_
[20:51] <Able2Help> hexafraction: make an ISO?
[20:51] <mcd_> thanks
[20:51] <hexafraction> Able2Help, do ISOs preserve NTFS-specific metadata and security descriptors?
[20:53] <SchrodingersScat> !info partimage | hexafraction
[20:53] <hexafraction> SchrodingersScat, I will look at it as I haven't come across it. Thanks!
[20:54] <SchrodingersScat> hexafraction: yeah, these days I just rsync the files I need, but that one claims to ignore free space like you specify, I think i've used it before maybe :^)
[20:54] <hexafraction> OK, thanks.
[20:57] <Able2Help> hexafraction: partimage will also work, i wanted to suggest something you were more likely to be familiar with... can you boot to that windows? or are you trying to do this from linux?
[21:01] <akik> hexhaxtron: clonezilla is another tool to do that
[21:01] <DaMastah> Hi can someone please recommend me a baremetal hot backup solution like mondorescue ? I'm running 15.10 server but there isn't any package for mondorescue past 15.04
[21:05] <fmc> Hello!
[21:08] <Able2Help> hello
[21:08] <greenberet123> Hi guys, Im booting with a live cd (sysrescd) and when I try to mount my ubuntu root partition, it takes literally 5 minutes to do that. Please help! This is the reason my boot times out in the first place.
[21:08] <SchrodingersScat> DaMastah: I don't see it in 14.04 either.  That was short lived
[21:09] <DaMastah> SchrodingersScat: yeah it's not in the official repos but the website has a source bur nothing past 15.04
[21:15] <Extreminador> guys i am using ubuntu via a vbox and i have installed php, apache and mysql
[21:15] <Extreminador> ups wait wrong place
[21:16] <Myrtti> Extreminador: it started alright
[21:17] <Bashing-om> greenberet123: Let's see what we can do . Pastebin ' sudo fdisk -lu ' of this is the leagacy partitioning . Then see what happens when mounting the root of the install from the liveDVD .
[21:19] <Extreminador> Myrtti i can´t even access to internet via ubuntu for some weard reason
[21:19] <greenberet123> Bashing-om: www.pastebin.com/rasGBQzi
[21:19] <Bashing-om> greenberet123: K; look'n .
[21:20] <greenberet123> Bashing-om: So I can mount the root using the live rescue cd .... just that it takes literally 5 mins to mount
[21:22] <Bashing-om> greenberet123: Well .. looks straight forward. do you mount such as ' sudo mkdir /mnt/looksee ; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/looksee ' ??
[21:22] <dw1> how do i stop screen dimming immediately when power is unplugged? the Power settings don't seem to have it :/ (lubuntu)
[21:23] <greenberet123> Bashing-om: yes thats how i do it
[21:23] <OerHeks> "Partition table entries are not in disk order." some partitions are overlapping..
[21:23] <minas114> Hi. I want to install 16.04 LTS in virtualbox, but the ISO doesn't boot. Only a black screen.
[21:24] <dreadkopp> minas114: are you sure you boot from .iso image?
[21:24] <anonymous287> 16.04 is not the final version
[21:24] <minas114> dreadkopp, let me re-check
[21:24] <minas114> anonymous287, I know, I just want to test it
[21:24] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: greenberet123 Ouch .. not reading me .. did not scroll down enough .. relook'n at this time .
[21:25] <anonymous287> i had that problem too
[21:25] <anonymous287> change your usb bootable tool
[21:25] <greenberet123> OerHeks: so whats the fix? gparted?
[21:26] <anonymous287> use poweriso minas114
[21:26] <anonymous287> you ll find it in onhax.net
[21:26] <minas114> anonymous287, I'm not burning to a cd, I want to install it in virtualbox
[21:26] <anonymous287> ahhh ok
[21:26] <greenberet123> OerHeks: Bashing-om: Wait, so this can cause a 5 minute mount time?
[21:28] <anonymous287> minas114 you have a very good connexion?
[21:29] <anonymous287> if it s not, you had lose some packets during downloading ,
[21:29] <anonymous287> (sorry for my bad english)
[21:29] <minas114> anonymous287, I downloaded it using wget, and had to close it once and then continue the download... Maybe it corrupted the download?
[21:29] <OerHeks> greenberet123, most likely yes, if sd6 does not align after sd5<PHONE_NUMBER> .. it takes whole sda2
[21:30] <OerHeks> not sure how to correct this, is this a fresh install?
[21:31] <Extreminador> how can i make a trace route ?
[21:31] <anonymous287> yes it s a possibility
[21:31] <greenberet123> OerHeks: No, its been around for some time ... but I've only restarted 2-3 times in the last 8 months. The problem comes during a restart when it has to mount.
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> !find brew
[21:31] <tsp`> Extreminador: install the traceroute package, then use `traceroute` in console
[21:32] <anonymous287> i have a bad connexion, and when i download it it wouldn t work , .... but my friend who has a very good connexion download it ... it works
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> !info mtr | Extreminador
[21:33] <tsp`> that also exists? huh
[21:35] <anonymous287> guys , we can install 64bits on vmware?
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> anonymous287  what happens when you try
[21:36] <anonymous287> i didnt try
[21:37] <anonymous287> i would like to install manjaro in vmware
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> anonymous287  this is ubuntu support
[21:38] <anonymous287> okey, can i install ubuntu 64bits in vmware :D
[21:39] <anonymous287> i just want to knew if vmware will allow 64bits installation
[21:39] <MonkeyDust> anonymous287  best way to find out, is by trying
[21:40] <anonymous287> you knew i have a bad connexion, and i dont want to lose time to download 2gb and find that it doesn t work at the final
[21:40] <dreadkopp> vmware supports 64bit virtual machines if your hardware and host os supports it
[21:40] <anonymous287> how to verify that?
[21:41] <Muimi> I tried ln -s ./mysite ../sites-available/mysite, and it returned an error: http://askubuntu.com/questions/543516/what-is-a-failed-to-create-a-symbolic-link-file-exists-error
[21:41] <SchrodingersScat> !md5sum | anonymous287
[21:41] <Muimi> But I don't think the answer here is specific to the reason i'm getting the error message
[21:41] <Muimi> well, i'm followin this guide: http://blog.al4.co.nz/2011/05/setting-up-a-secure-ubuntu-lamp-server/
[21:41] <Muimi> It's pretty outdated, but I thought it might still work.
[21:42] <anonymous287> (i m using ubuntu 64bits but it s not mean that my cpu support 64bits virtualisation
[21:42] <Muimi> All of thes steps up until ls -s have worked.
[21:42] <dreadkopp> which cpu do you use?
[21:43] <anonymous287> intel celeron inside
[21:43] <Muimi> i'm using a vps with ubuntu 14.04
[21:43] <dreadkopp> which intel celeron?
[21:44] <dreadkopp> do ' cat /proc/cpuinfo | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io ' and post link here
[21:45] <anonymous287> Intel® Celeron® Processor 900
[21:46] <cookiepus> Good afternoon. Sorry if this isn't the right place. I am getting very inconsistent outputs from iwlist scan (from 4 cells to 34 cells, fluctuating.) I am trying to learn more about this and how to mitigate. where could i start?
[21:47] <llutz> anonymous287: egrep -wo 'vmx|lm' /proc/cpuinfo  | sort -u
[21:48] <greenberet123> OerHeks: I fixed that error using the 'f' command in fdisk
[21:48] <anonymous287> llutz :  lm
[21:48] <greenberet123> OerHeks: reinstalling grub now
[21:48] <llutz> anonymous287: so 64bit, but no virtualizsation support or not enabled in BIOS
[21:49] <anonymous287> i searched in my bios but no options to enable it
[21:49] <anonymous287> so i can't use 64bits virtualisation
[21:50] <SchrodingersScat> Muimi: looks like you had that ln backwards? a lot of that is up to personal preference of how you set it up, so meh
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> anonymous287  then install the 32 bit iso in vmware player or workstation
[21:51] <OerHeks> anonymous287, it has execute disable bit. but no vt indeed  http://ark.intel.com/products/41498/Intel-Celeron-Processor-900-1M-Cache-2_20-GHz-800-MHz-FSB
[21:51] <llutz> anonymous287: if your hardware doesn't support vmx, any virtualization will be dead slow
[21:52] <OerHeks> greenberet123, good luck, i hope the data on sda6 is oke
[21:52] <dreadkopp> even if it would support virtualiation on a celeron single core it would be dead slow anyways
[21:52] <llutz> true
[21:53] <Bashing-om> greenberet123: Still look'n .. try'n to make the numbers add up . Smoke break whil I clear my mind.
[21:53] <anonymous287> ok, thank you everybody
[21:54] <OerHeks> it can be nice warm 105°C
[21:55] <anonymous287> how to change pc's name, (the name that appears in the terminal:  name@name )
[21:56] <dreadkopp> nano /etc/hostname
[21:56] <llutz> !hostname > anonymous287
[21:56] <SchrodingersScat> sudo hostname new-hostname ; sudo pico /etc/hosts ; sudo pico /etc/hostname #?
[21:58] <Muimi> ubuntu's hiding my files. :'(
[21:58] <anonymous287> thank you i ll try that
[22:00] <k1l_> Muimi: what files?
[22:01] <nedstark> is there a script for making a customized ubuntu live usb installation iso with certain packages?
[22:01] <Muimi> the ip-named file and the default-ssl.config file don't show up in LS or LL
[22:01] <Muimi> in my sites-enabled directory i need to type ls -al /sites-enabled
[22:01] <Muimi> ls -al doesn't show the files unless I also type /sites-enabled, either.
[22:02] <Muimi> sorry lazy i have to type /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[22:03] <llutz> Muimi: and 'pwd' is what?
[22:03] <Muimi> sites-enabled
[22:04] <SchrodingersScat> Muimi: really? that's the output?
[22:04] <llutz> Muimi: sites-enabled or /etc/apache2/sites-enabled ?
[22:05] <k1l_> Muimi: are you sure you are in the right folder?
[22:05] <SchrodingersScat> my first concern is that this doesn't seem to be even in a / anywhere :^)
[22:09] <Muimi> yes that's really the output....
[22:09] <Muimi> k1l_: can i offer you my terminal pastebin? :P
[22:09] <Muimi> /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> Muimi  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[22:10] <Bashing-om> greenberet123: Numbers do add up .. I see no faults . what is the 830.4G  sda6 partition ? Is that the real root ?
[22:10] <Muimi> but i think i'm in the wrong directory
[22:10] <Muimi> i'm supposed to be in sites-available?
[22:11] <greenberet123> Bashing-om: No .. thats just some other partition .. maybe /home. So I'm now adding rootdelay=120 to my grub .... I think its not booting because of timeout.
[22:11] <anonymous287> how to disable ipv6
[22:12] <SchrodingersScat> Muimi: k, that's unexpected then, because /sites-enabled != sites-enabled != /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
[22:12] <k1l_> Muimi: what are you trying to do at all?
[22:12] <k1l_> Muimi: you can always use the fullpath. like "ls -al /path/to/anywhere/"
[22:13] <Bashing-om> greenberet123: Then as sda6 us not a fasctor; Only other thing I can come up with is to purge grub and RE-install grub .. Not a great thought as I can not put a finger on why .
[22:13] <Bashing-om> is not a factor *
[22:19] <Extreminador> guys i dont remember with ftp i ahve installed and is directory
[22:19] <Extreminador> how can i check it ?
[22:19] <Extreminador> wait think it was vsftp
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> Extreminador  locate ftp
[22:20] <Extreminador> yeh it was vsftpd
[22:20] <Extreminador> MonkeyDust thanks
[22:22] <cool_boy> hi , I am trying to execute sudo command with a system user but it asks me for password, I enter to shell from root like sudo su - username -s /bin/bash
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> cool_boy  yes, the purpose of sudo, is that it asks a password
[22:24] <cool_boy> MonkeyDust: but user doesn't have login
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> cool_boy  start from the beginning, what do you want to do
[22:25] <Afdal> I dunno if this is the right place to ask for help on this
[22:26] <nedstark> is there a script for making a customized ubuntu live usb installation iso with certain packages?
[22:26] <Afdal> but a bit ago I had a program freeze ubuntu up and had to manually turn my computer off
[22:26] <Afdal> Now Windows won't read one of my HDDs I use for storage
[22:26] <cool_boy> MonkeyDust: I created a system user that owns and runs application. I want to execute sudo command from shell with this user
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> !aptoncd | nedstark is this useful
[22:26] <Afdal> Even though linux has no problem at all recognizing its partitions and reading them
[22:27] <nedstark> thanks
[22:27] <MonkeyDust> cool_boy  then add the user to the sudo group
[22:27] <dreadkopp> nestark: there is remastersys and there was some webiste which will give you a custom iso... need to look it up
[22:28] <cool_boy> MonkeyDust: this is system user.  it isn’t supposed to be a person type user with a login etc
[22:28] <MonkeyDust> dreadkopp  i guess remastersys is no longer maintained
[22:28] <greenberet123> Bashing-om: still didnt get fixed. It dumped me to emergency mode after trying to boot. The mounting process is very very slow
[22:28] <dreadkopp> ubuntu-builder then? is this one still alive?
[22:28] <nedstark> opensuse has a site that makes a custom iso, it sometimes work, kinda like opensuse
[22:29] <greenberet123> Bashing-om: is there some disk diagnostic I can run?
[22:29] <nedstark> i'd like to see ubuntu do something like that
[22:30] <promet> anyone run ubuntu on a macbook? That is, anyone familiar with grub-efi "black magic"?
[22:30] <Bashing-om> greenberet123: Booting from the install AND mounting the root are both slow ? If only in booting .. what is in /etc/fstab that the system is attempting to automount ?
[22:31] <dreadkopp> nedstark: otherwise just install a ubuntu + your customizations in a vm, then make a image and dd it from a live system to your hdd
[22:32] <dreadkopp> promet: i ran arch linux on my macbook. if i remeber correctly no problem.. maybe you need RefiT
[22:32] <seyt> Arch Linux rocks !
[22:32] <codepython777> how do i make ubuntu detect the size of my monitor
[22:32] <dreadkopp> promet: but i think it's also possible to simply use bootcamp
[22:33] <dreadkopp> codepython777: monitors edid should be detected automatically. check your cable first
[22:33] <promet> dreadkopp, thanks, checked that out. rEFIt is now forked by some (saint) to rEFInd, which I've got to work
[22:33] <promet> I've just started it up, and instead of booting into my install it brought me to the grub cli
[22:34] <greenberet123> Bashing-om: Before emergency mode ... this is what it says: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=219746
[22:34] <promet> I was able to boot from there, super tedious though, obviously.
[22:34] <greenberet123> Bashing-om: Those guys suggest replugging the data cables
[22:34] <Bashing-om> codepython777: ' xrandr --verbose ' ?? that what you have in mind ?
[22:34] <promet> dreadkopp, on my next reboot though, will it have saved those params? do you think?
[22:34] <greenberet123> Bashing-om: Ya, mounting the root is sooooo slow
[22:35] <greenberet123> Bashing-om: but that partition order error doesn't come anymore. that is fixed.
[22:35] <promet> dreadkopp, isn't that the "upside" of rEFIt (rEFInd)?
[22:35] <dreadkopp> promet: worked fine for me.. but cannot remember if i was using standard efi, bootcamp or refind... refind should work defintely
[22:35]  * [Saint] wonders why he was summoned.
[22:35] <[Saint]> Oh. I see.
[22:35] <[Saint]> Highlight rules backfiring.
[22:36] <promet> dreadkopp, do you think that after I boot from refind that it should "autoboot" the next time around?
[22:36] <promet> hate to keep "making the donuts" on every reboot
[22:36] <dreadkopp> promet: what do you mean by 'autoboot' ?
[22:37] <Bashing-om> greenberet123: In respect to loose cables, anything in the log files to hint at that condition ? // Does the linux file system check run clean ? does 'smartctl' check OK ?
[22:38] <seyt> /quit Bye
[22:38] <promet> dreadkopp, boot without refind (I've got it on a usb stick for the mac's efi boot to find), that is, boot my ubuntu partition instead
[22:38] <raulgrangeiro> hi. Is someone avaliable for helping me?
[22:39] <k1l_> raulgrangeiro: just ask
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> raulgrangeiro  ask your question in the channel
[22:39] <echokrush> raul, state the problem and we'll help
[22:39] <raulgrangeiro> ok, thanks.
[22:39] <raulgrangeiro> Ive trying to use a bluetooth headset on Ubuntu 15.10
[22:39] <dreadkopp> if mac's efi is detecting your ubuntu-partiton you should be fine without refind
[22:39] <raulgrangeiro> but the A2DP conection fails almost everytime
[22:40] <promet> dreakopp, thanks
[22:40] <promet> dreadkopp, ;)
[22:40] <raulgrangeiro> what is wrong?
[22:40] <hdon> HELP https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8858131
[22:40] <raulgrangeiro> I have tried for 5 times to connect until it workd
[22:40] <k1l_> hdon: are you sure you dont want to ask in #bash ?
[22:41] <hdon> i'll try
[22:41] <dreadkopp> otherwise just install refind instead of mac's bootloader.. that did definetly work
[22:41] <MonkeyDust> raulgrangeiro  install blueman
[22:41] <seyt> plop
[22:41] <raulgrangeiro> How can I use it?
[22:42] <k1l_> seyt: please keep this channel for technical ubuntu support only. thanks
[22:42] <MonkeyDust> raulgrangeiro  sudo apt installblueman, then run it
[22:42] <MonkeyDust> raulgrangeiro  sudo apt install blueman, then run it
[22:42] <raulgrangeiro> Ok. I will try here
[22:44] <seyt> archlinux win
[22:45] <raulgrangeiro> hey guys, It worked very well
[22:45] <raulgrangeiro> thanks. This software is awesome!
[22:45] <MonkeyDust> raulgrangeiro  blueman did the trick?
[22:46] <raulgrangeiro> yes, and very well!!!
[22:46] <raulgrangeiro> Now I can connect without problems
[22:46] <MonkeyDust> raulgrangeiro  glad i could help
[22:46] <raulgrangeiro> thanks MonkeyDust!!
[22:46] <raulgrangeiro> Now I can enjoy Spotify!
[22:47] <greenberet123> Bashing-om: i replugged the cables. Still , grub takes 3 whole minutes to load the kernel file ... :( :(
[22:47] <greenberet123> Bashing-om: Do you think my hdd has gone bad?
[22:48] <raulgrangeiro> bye guys!  Have a nice weekend!!
[22:49] <Bashing-om> greenberet123: There is always the possibility . Hard drives live a hard live . cases like this, all we can do is look at the logs, check/repair the file system and run the SMART check . See if we get any hints .
[22:50] <dreadkopp> greenberet123: please run in terminal: " sudo smartctl -A | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io "and post the generated link
[22:50] <OerHeks> !bootchart
[22:51] <Bashing-om> greenberet123: OerHeks +1 on bootchart ! The voice of experience .
[22:59] <axk4545> I just installed mysql 5.7 from the oracle site. how do I start the service? running the command mysql seems to do nothing
[23:02] <dreadkopp> no total ubuntu question but i guess my proble loosing live media at boot is unsufficient power supply on the usb port: just attaching a 5V 500mA power supply to the black/red wire of an usb cable to amplify the power on the hub should work, shouldn't it? or will i fry the craplet?
[23:03] <compdoc> say what?!
[23:03] <compdoc> spend the $5 for a usb hub
[23:04] <dreadkopp> would need to buy a active hub for minimum 15€ but got a lot of spare usb cables + power supplies :P
[23:04] <dreadkopp> also no store will open here for the next 32 hours :/
[23:05] <dumihgir> Hello! I'm a new one in the IRC world!
[23:05] <dumihgir> And a new ubuntu user
[23:06] <DaMastah> welcome dumihgir
[23:06] <dumihgir> Thanks!
[23:06] <dumihgir> Thank you DaMastah!
[23:07] <chemi> I recently switched from Mint to Xubuntu 15.10, and I can't figure out how to get permissions to work. Specifically, I can't get Plex Media Server access to a mounted 2nd hard drive. I have given Plex permissions to the drive as I always have in Mint, but here it is not working
[23:08] <anonymous287> hi, to change language i have to click in the boutton  "EN" ???
[23:11] <greenberet123> dreadkopp: Bashing-1m: OerHeks: smartctl  --- http://ix.io/o1i
[23:14] <dreadkopp> greenberet123: i would suggest to make a backup of your drive and replace it.
[23:15] <dreadkopp> this drive has run for more than 5 and a half years (runtime) ... most smart states are on pre-fail
[23:15] <dumihgir> Chemi, I came from Mint too. It's an excellent sistem!!! I love Xubuntu (I am using it now), but present more problems to me. I have a problem sometimes when I close and open again the netbook.
[23:16] <dumihgir> Sorry for my english. It's a bad english.
[23:17] <dreadkopp> greenberet123: seagate are also not the most reliable harddrives. and 1 TB drivers are pretty cheap nowadays. before loosing all your data replace it
[23:18] <greenberet123> dreadkopp: gotcha. Thanks so much everyone for all your help.
[23:19] <de-facto> where can i find the lets encrypt root cert in /etc/ssl/certs?
[23:19] <dreadkopp> better be safe than sorry ;) lost 2 TB of data on a seagate drive some time ago which failed after a runtime of 'just' a bit over 3 years
[23:20] <chemi> dumihgir: I agree. I really like xubuntu, but it seems a lot harder to find support for these problems :/
[23:21] <greenberet123> Bashing-1m: OerHeks: will replace hdd, thanks guys
[23:22] <Bashing-1m> greenberet123: Kinda drastic action ?
[23:22] <anonymous287> hello, i would like to write a word in others language but i can t find the botton to change language
[23:23] <dreadkopp> Bahsing-1m: look at the smart data he posted
[23:24] <Bashing-om> dreadkopp: Thanks .. lost it in the netsplit .
[23:39] <teKate> hi all anyone can recommend me a ubiquity channel? thanks
[23:40] <MonkeyDust> teKate  ask your question here
[23:40] <teKate> hi all, i have a Antenna airGrid M5 HP, configured as Access Point, i check it with my cell phone, and not see the SSID configured: Antenna1, why?
[23:43] <k1l> teKate: is this related to ubuntu? ubiquity is the ubuntu installer
[23:44] <teKate> k1l i asked before...
[23:53] <ted_> раз раз
[23:55] <ted_> есть кто живой?
[23:56] <k1l> !ru | ted_
[23:59] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[23:59] <ubuntu-mate> hola
[23:59] <ubuntu-mate> hay alguien hay
[23:59] <ubuntu-mate> ayajuju