[00:04] <arooni> do i need to run https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-update-tool-linux-os-v2.0.2 ;; or does 16.04 already include intel drivers that support hardware acceleration?
[00:05] <Bischoop> Hi
[00:05] <Bashing-om> isene: The nouveau driver should be active if the nvidia driver is removed . ( keep in mind even the i915 driver for the Intel chip set also is not present ! )
[00:06] <arooni> Bashing-om: i assume that was for me.  i have the 915 integrated graphics; so i need to run that update tool i linked to?
[00:06] <_Sym_> arooni, I also have the i915 graphics chipset and I had to update to a new kernel in order to fix the screen flickering.  The default 16.04 kernel does not really support the latest skylake intel graphics cards on laptops.
[00:07] <isene> Hmmm... How can I see what driver is active?
[00:07] <isene> nouveau or not
[00:07] <arooni> oops apparently i have the intel 3000 laptop (thinkpad t420 from back in the day  loL )
[00:08] <isene> But after removing the nvidia-375, the battery consumption is at least back to 11 W (at was up at 37 W with the nomodeset
[00:08] <arooni> i still think hardware acceleration isnt supported from ubuntu unless i try that wizard; because kodi chokes when trying to decode some streams
[00:09] <arooni> also; am i not allowed to run sudo commands when connecting via ssh?  [sudo] password for david: Error executing command as another user: Not authorized
[00:09] <isene> What I am really trying to accomplish here is to maximize the battery life. I'm not gaming, so I'd really like to make sure the NVIDIA card is burried 6 feet down
[00:09] <_Sym_> arooni, I would say try building the latest kernel from kord with make-kpkg
[00:09] <_Sym_> from korg*
[00:09] <arooni> _Sym_: i'm running the 4.8 kernel
[00:09] <Bashing-om> arooni: No, was not responding to you .. working a nvidia driver install failure with isene - hybrid .
[00:10] <_Sym_> arooni, I dont think i915 was usable until 4.9
[00:10] <_Sym_> or maybe 4.10
[00:11] <arooni> so; hardware acceleration even for my ancient hd 3000 wont be supported unless i run the wizard?
[00:11] <_Sym_> I think my issue was related to skylake and i915
[00:11] <_Sym_> so maybe its ok with older intel graphics chipsets
[00:12] <_Sym_> not sure
[00:14] <_Sym_> my guess is that if you have trouble with i915 drivers, then try updating the kernel
[00:16] <sirru5h> Howdy everyone
[00:17] <isene> Bashing-om: Should I try to get the 915 driver going? Would that bring the battery consumption further down? Or improve something?
[00:17] <_Sym_> i915 is the one supported by intel
[00:18] <_Sym_> so you will probably get better performance
[00:18] <_Sym_> if you have an intel chipset on a laptop
[00:18] <isene> I do (Dell XPS15, recent)
[00:19] <_Sym_> definitely i would choose i915 then
[00:19] <Bashing-om> isene: Racking my brains and getting nowhere ; we have no errors, no log files, no installed files . just have no notion of what we can do .// the intel driver .. that is a thought as that chip set must function for the nvidia card to function .
[00:19] <psychoticwarrior>  add-apt-repository -y ppa:teejee2008/ppa
[00:19] <psychoticwarrior> apt update
[00:19] <isene> psychoticwarrior: is that for me?
[00:20] <isene> Bashing-om: Should I apt-get xserver-xorg-video-intel ?
[00:20] <psychoticwarrior> yea try that
[00:20] <_Sym_> isene, is it intel or is it nvidia?
[00:20] <psychoticwarrior> apt-get update
[00:20] <psychoticwarrior> apt-get upgrade
[00:21] <isene> It's both - Intel is the primary, nvidia the secondary
[00:21] <isene> xserver-xorg-video-intel is already the newest version (2:2.99.917+git20170309-0ubuntu1).
[00:21] <isene> Hmm... it's already there, Bashing-om
[00:21] <Bashing-om> isene: "If you are using testing/unstable, Debian recommend removing xserver-xorg-video-intel and instead relying on the X server's built-in modesetting driver:
[00:21] <Bashing-om> The use of this driver is discouraged if your hw is new enough (ca. 2007 and newer). You can try uninstalling this driver and let the server use it's builtin modesetting driver instead.
[00:22] <Bashing-om> do: sudo apt purge xserver-xorg-video-intel
[00:22] <isene> I'm on Ubuntu 17.04
[00:22] <_Sym_> what is the kernel version on 17.04, isene
[00:23] <isene> OK. Done
[00:23] <Bashing-om> isene: One can check if that driver is installed ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-intel ' .
[00:23] <isene> It reports gone
[00:23] <arooni> how do i fix W: https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/16.04/main/dists/xenial/InRelease: Signature by key KEYID uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)
[00:24] <isene> _Sym_: 4.10.0-21
[00:24] <_Sym_> isene, that kernel should be new enough to support i915
[00:24] <Bashing-om> isene: Reboot and see if there is a positive result ?
[00:25] <isene> I'll be back in a min and then you can tell me what to look for :-)
[00:26] <isene> I'm back
[00:26] <isene> Rebooted just fine, but not sure what to look for
[00:27] <b0bby__> can you help me?
[00:27] <b0bby__> please
[00:27] <arooni> do i need to restart my ubuntu laptop after upgrading my video drivers?
[00:27] <arooni> for them to take effect?
[00:27] <arooni> or is it immedaiate: (results) https://gist.github.com/arooni/49351f47628e69952a303f802ca9052a
[00:27] <_Sym_> just X, arooni
[00:27] <arooni> _Sym_: so like sudo service lightdm restart ?
[00:28] <_Sym_> arooni, just log out and back in
[00:28] <arooni> will my laptop run faster now that i have 3d acceleration ?
[00:29] <_Sym_> arooni, proper hardware acceleration should take some load off the cpu
[00:30] <isene> Bashing-om: How do I check what driver is active? (I should perhaps have registered how to do just that through all that we have gone through - but it slipped)
[00:30] <Zalabaslea> :-)
[00:30] <b0bby__> can i get some help
[00:30] <arooni> _Sym_: yay :)   in the future when i can afford a new laptop and since you seem to know about stuff like this is it better to get a laptop with intel graphics or nvidia?
[00:31] <arooni> _Sym_: will hardware acceleration just run as needed or do i need to turn it on somewhere
[00:31] <Bashing-om> !register | isene
[00:31] <isene> Bashing-om: I have this from ' inxi -GCS ' :  ' Display Server: X.org 1.19.3 drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) '
[00:32] <_Sym_> arooni, if the driver is working, then it will have proper accleration enabled by default.  Intel drivers are easier to setup because they are supported directly from the kernel.  Nvidia drivers usually require third party drivers and additional setup.
[00:32] <arooni> _Sym_: which are better for batterY/
[00:33] <_Sym_> that probably requires testing, but I would guess the nvidia card uses more power because its more for gaming.
[00:33] <Bashing-om> isene: And pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ' . As we fly by the seat of our pants .
[00:35] <isene> I do see a ' i915 ' in there: https://pastebin.com/HKbcBNBu
[00:36] <isene> Bashing-om: BTW; I'm already logged in/registered
[00:37] <Bashing-om> isene: That sys that the driver for the Intel chip set is loaded .. and no driver for the nvidia set . think'n again !
[00:38] <_Sym_> Do you have to choose the video driver in the BIOS?
[00:38] <isene> But maybe that's just quite OK - given that I don't want that power hungry GPU to fire up and kill my battery?
[00:39] <isene> _Sym_: Not as far as I've Googled
[00:39] <_Sym_> how does the laptop know which video card to use
[00:40] <Bashing-om> isene: That card "should" be as on demand - if you really do not want it used . maybe turn it off in bios ?
[00:41] <isene> It uses the primary (Intel) normally and the NVIDIA kicks in when it feels like on Windows (apparently) and also on Linux if I can get the driver to load (or maybe it does lie in the background consuming power - as some posts have indicated - which is why I want the driver loaded and then blaclist the fucker)
[00:43] <_Sym_> I have never seen Linux uses two cards and the same time and dynamically switch between them
[00:43] <isene> Apparently there is no way to turn it off in BIOS (all posts indicate that) - BUT, it may be possible in an updated bios, which is what I may try after a good nights sleep
[00:43] <isene> It's 2:43 am here in Oslo/Norway
[00:44] <isene> I'm a GM for a buch of 13 year olds in a few hours...
[00:44] <Bashing-om> isene: We got the nvida driver available ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-nouveau ' ?
[00:44] <isene> I deeply appreciate how helpful you guys are. It's rather amazing.
[00:45] <isene> Bashing-om: Checking...
[00:45] <Bashing-om> isene: Open source at it's best :)
[00:45] <_Sym_> I would guess that since this a new Dell laptop, you will need the latest nvidia drivers
[00:46] <isene> Bashing-om: Yes. I would like to get your contacts back channel (I run a few IT companies and could use some talents now and then)
[00:46] <isene> Result of the latest recommendation: ii  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau            1:1.0.14-0ubuntu1       amd64                   X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver
[00:46] <isene> So, yes
[00:47] <Bashing-om> _Sym_: We been up and down with nvidia drivers . can not get any driver to install for isene .
[00:47] <isene> _Sym_: We have tried nvidia-375, nvidia-378 and the latest nvidia-381 --- all freezes on boot
[00:47] <_Sym_> and the modules builds ok with the kernel headers installed?
[00:48] <isene> Bashing-om: If you'd like, drop me an e-mail at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:48] <isene> _Sym_: Apparently
[00:48] <_Sym_> the nvidia drivers should be supported by dkms I think
[00:49] <isene> _Sym_: Yes. But they freeze on boot nontheless
[00:49] <Bashing-om> isene: With hubrid graphics the xorg,conf file must exist . does it ? ' ls -al /etc/X11/Xorg.conf ' .
[00:49] <isene> But we deleted that...?
[00:49] <_Sym_> maybe the nividia drivers are conflicting with the intel card
[00:50] <_Sym_> maybe the nvidia drivers would work if the intel card is disabled
[00:50] <Bashing-om> isene: and it " should " have been rebuilt on the current install .
[00:50] <isene> Bashing-om: ls: cannot access '/etc/X11/Xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[00:50] <isene> How to reinstate it?
[00:52] <Bashing-om> isene: Purge once more, and install the nvidia driver . if the file is not created, we can have nvidia build it .
[00:54] <isene> I did ' sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo apt install nvidia-375 ' and no xorg.conf after this
[00:54] <isene> how to fix?
[00:55] <leftyfb> isene: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:55] <Bashing-om> isene: try ' sudo nvidia-xconfig ' .
[00:56] <leftyfb> insidious: though Ubuntu doesn't need xorg.conf anymore
[00:56] <crypticgator_> I'm trying to connect to the internet by using an old router as a bridge to ethernet. I changed the address of the router to match the gateway ip and the last digit I put 102. But now I can't connect to it anymore
[00:56] <Bashing-om> isene: leftyfb  Great thought too !
[00:56] <_Sym_> I'm reading that hybrid graphics systems must disable one of the cards
[00:57] <Bashing-om> leftyfb: htbrid grahocs on isene's issue . got to have that file to switch graphic's sets .
[00:57] <leftyfb> crypticgator_: that's a non-ubuntu issue
[00:58] <isene> Which one should I try Bashing-om's or leftyfb's solution?
[00:58] <Bashing-om> isene: tey the dpkg command 1st .. see if there is anything positive .
[00:58] <leftyfb> isene: I didn't know you had hybrid graphics. I guess you do need xorg.
[00:58] <_Sym_> reconfiguring xorg probably wont fix it.  I think you need to go into your BIOS and disable one of the graphics cards for the driver in linux to work
[00:59] <crypticgator_> leftyfb: I don't konw the settings I need to put in the network profile, I guess since DHCP may have turned off
[01:01] <leftyfb> crypticgator_: configure your network profile to be the same subnet as your router's gateway ip
[01:01] <isene> Did both commands, have this now: https://pastebin.com/Y9JkE3tn
[01:02] <crypticgator_> it worked, but I had to add the new IP of the bridge in the gateway section of the profile
[01:03] <crypticgator_> thanks
[01:05] <uxfi> hi freinds
[01:05] <uxfi> how is all
[01:08] <isene> Bashing-om: Should I try rebooting, then?
[01:08] <isene> Bashing-om: Or anything else first?
[01:09] <Bashing-om> isene: That is just weird ! I would accept something like : http://termbin.com/mwj5 . thin'n again !
[01:22] <klf> "In C, statically-allocated objects without an explicit initializer are initialized to zero (for arithmetic types) or a null pointer (for pointer types)."
[01:23] <uxfi> hello
[01:26] <Bashing-om> isene: I just do not have the skills to know what to think here . Not a thing we can get a bite on ! No logs, no installed files to work with - no errors !
[01:28] <Zalabaslea> hi
[01:31] <Bashing-om> isene: Got the liveDVD(USB) on hand ? See what the live environmnet is like ??
[01:40] <doc|work> is anyone here in #glusterfs?
[01:42] <platz> after upgrading to 17.04 changing mouse (trackpoint pointer) speed via "xset" seems to no longer work
[01:52] <psychoticwarrior> whats up
[01:52] <platz> ahh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:00] <LadyB> Speed: 4.01 GHZ
[02:00] <LadyB> done.
[02:03] <kode54> regarding the above nonsense with the intel/nvidia laptop
[02:03] <kode54> they implement something called "Optimus" technology
[02:03] <kode54> the nvidia GPU has no video outputs
[02:03] <kode54> software uses DMA framebuffer copies between the NVidia GPU and the Intel GPU's VRAM
[02:04] <kode54> there's Linux software to facilitate such GPU arrangements, where you run software you want to utilize the NV GPU using a special launcher
[02:04] <kode54> otherwise the software will use the Intel GPU
[02:04] <kode54> it's the same as any multi-GPU setup, minus the dedicated GPU having any attached displays
[02:05] <platz> after dealing with bumblebee/optimus, i simply resort to turning the GPU on and off at boot time if needed
[02:06] <uxfi> good evening
[02:06] <kode54> isene: re: your nvidia card, if you don't want to use it, don't use the bumblebee/optimus packages
[02:07] <kode54> it's a special arrangement
[02:07] <kode54> there if you want it, idling and potentially disabled if you don't
[02:08] <kode54> you have to launch the apps through bumblebee if you want them to even touch the nvidia gpu
[02:09] <platz> but again if you change the graphics card to Nvidia in the BIOS, you can simply run "prime-select nvidia" and then Xorg will run everything under the GPU
[02:09] <kode54> oh
[02:09] <kode54> but I think he was trying to avoid that because he wants to save battery power
[02:09] <platz> yes it's terrible for battey
[02:10] <platz> i only use it when i need to hook up a projector because the video port requires the graphics card on my laptop
[02:13] <platz> basically the situation is unchanged since this post w/ thinkpad hardware http://zachstechnotes.blogspot.com/2012/01/tri-head-display-on-linux-thinkpad-w520.html
[02:45] <psychoticwarrior> what up ppl
[02:45] <flush> deja-dup was freezing my ubuntu
[02:45] <flush> nice
[02:45] <flush> whats next
[02:50] <Guest14516> anyone using popcorntime? when I open the executable file, a windows say "There is no application installed for 'shared library'
[02:53] <psychoticwarrior> no clue dont use it
[02:53] <hanasaki> In gnome , how do you set add a new app to the dock?  it is a custom program . not installed from apt-get
[02:54] <psychoticwarrior> do you know the dir of the program
[02:54] <hanasaki> yes
[02:54] <psychoticwarrior> just drag it over to the site
[02:54] <psychoticwarrior> im in kali right now let me switch to ubujntu
[02:54] <hanasaki> trying.. thanks
[02:55] <kostkon> Guest14516, try running it from the terminal
[02:55] <psychoticwarrior> yea the terminal
[02:55] <psychoticwarrior> open terminal
[02:55] <psychoticwarrior> then type in the program name
[02:58] <hanasaki> what's a good lowerend compact laptop that will run ubuntu with wifi/bluetooth support?  maybe i3 or low end i5.  and how much ram min to run a few things like gnome, ubuntu, libreoffice, firefox, pidgin, evolution?
[02:58] <hanasaki> at the saem time
[02:58] <psychoticwarrior> try right click then move and drag it to the panel
[02:58] <psychoticwarrior> works foor me
[02:58] <hanasaki> hi psychoticwarrior ... dragging does no good... it snaps back to the gnome filemanager.
[02:59] <psychoticwarrior> oh shit
[02:59] <psychoticwarrior> im now into ubuntu
[02:59] <psychoticwarrior> it works for me
[03:00] <psychoticwarrior> does it have a gui?
[03:00] <psychoticwarrior> what version of ugunut do you have>
[03:00] <psychoticwarrior> ?
[03:01] <hanasaki> psychoticwarrior:  right now.. gnome 3.22
[03:01] <psychoticwarrior> ok
[03:01] <hanasaki> happens to be debian stretch testing
[03:03] <hanasaki> hmm mwas running xfce... gnome is cpu and ram heavy in comparison
[03:04] <psychoticwarrior> did u try right click and then press move and drag it over to the panel?
[03:05] <hanasaki> psychoticwarrior:  yes
[03:06] <scottfree> Hey anyone active?
[03:06] <hanasaki> right click brings up a menu, no dragging allowed, :: left click drags and it looks like the icon in the dock tries to run was what dragged onto it
[03:06] <sumeet_> Hi guys
[03:06] <scottfree> Hello!
[03:06] <sumeet_> New ubuntu user here
[03:06] <sumeet_> Hello Scott
[03:06] <scottfree> ubuntu rox
[03:06] <scottfree> How are you?>
[03:07] <sumeet_> Am good, thanks. How are you?
[03:07] <sumeet_> Ubuntu Mate looks cool
[03:07] <scottfree> Im good just about to put a movie on
[03:07] <sumeet_> Cool
[03:07] <sumeet_> Hope you have a good time
[03:08] <scottfree> im gonna leave chat up and keep chatting as i watch
[03:09] <Perverso> hola
[03:09] <jonez_> Hello,I ran  lvreduce without shrinking fs. How may I fix bad sectors?
[03:09] <sumeet_> Is there a way to install chrome via command line
[03:10] <Perverso> :o
[03:10] <Perverso> como estan
[03:11] <Perverso> :(
[03:14] <kostkon> sumeet_, why via the terminal?
[03:19] <Perverso> :0
[03:20] <ChaiTRex> sumeet_: https://askubuntu.com/a/797278/616451
[03:20] <Perverso> que programa puedo usar para descargar musica de buena calidad?
[03:20] <kostkon> !es | Perverso
[03:21] <Perverso> gracias pero no hay mucha gente
[03:21] <sumeet_> @kostkon Couldn't install from their site. Turns out they only support 64 bit systems
[03:21] <sumeet_> I've 32 bit one
[03:22] <sumeet_> @chaiTRex thanks but i think i need to settle for chromium
[03:22] <kostkon> sumeet_, yes, Chrome has gone 64bit only, like Steam and many others.
[03:23] <Perverso> :(
[03:23] <bazhang> Perverso, please stop that
[03:24] <Perverso> ok don't worry
[03:25] <Perverso> you can help me
[03:25] <bazhang> Perverso, here is support only, not general chit chat
[03:25] <bazhang> Perverso, you want a music player?
[03:25] <Perverso> yes
[03:25] <Perverso> mmm
[03:25] <bazhang> Perverso, which ubuntu are you on
[03:26] <Perverso> dowload music 320 kbts
[03:26] <bazhang> Perverso, a music player is not a music downloader
[03:26] <sumeet_> :D
[03:27] <Perverso> i'm sorry
[03:27] <bazhang> Perverso, we will not help with that
[03:29] <Perverso> i need program to download music  good quality
[03:30] <bazhang> Perverso, sign up for a paid music service
[03:31] <bazhang> Perverso, again, we will not help you with getting paid music free, stop asking for it
[03:31] <Perverso> jajajaa ok
[03:33] <platz> ok so upgrade to 17.04 installed emacs25 and seems like a lot of plugins aren't working in emacs25.. anyone run across this?
[03:33] <kostkon> Perverso, install spotify and you will be able to legally listen to music for free*     *with ads
[03:33] <bazhang> platz, have you tried in the more specific emacs channel here on freenode
[03:34] <platz> bazhang: better idea, thanks
[03:34] <bazhang> #emacs it should be
[03:35] <psychoticwarrior> youtube to mp3
[03:35] <psychoticwarrior> google: youtube to mp3
[03:35] <psychoticwarrior> copy youtube hyperlink then paste it and press ok
[03:36] <psychoticwarrior> save file
[03:36] <psychoticwarrior> then drag it to your destination
[03:37] <garrettmclaughli> test
[03:37] <Perverso> thanks
[03:43] <Perverso> i'd like program similar to ares
[03:47] <psychoticwarrior> did u try youtube to mp3?
[03:48] <Perverso> yes
[03:48] <psychoticwarrior> yae its easy
[03:48] <psychoticwarrior> works most of the time
[03:48] <Perverso> = whit jdowloader
[03:49] <psychoticwarrior> huh?
[03:50] <Perverso> jdowloader too
[03:50] <psychoticwarrior> kool
[03:53] <Perverso> but quality is bad
[03:59] <Perverso> gracias amigo
[04:00] <psychoticwarrior> it may be the file that your downloading from ubuntu search for HQ
[04:02] <psychoticwarrior> from youtube i mean
[04:03] <Perverso> don't worry amigo is there any way to ripe the spoty music
[04:05] <doc|work> Perverso, have you tried buying it from the band's website?
[04:05] <doc|work> Most will sell it to you for a reasonable price
[04:06] <Perverso> i want mp3 file
[04:07] <psychoticwarrior> https://www.onlinevideoconverter.com/mp3-converter
[04:07] <doc|work> Perverso, they probably sell those - most do now
[04:09] <Perverso> jajaja
[04:09] <doc|work> Perverso, what does that mean?
[04:10] <kostkon> doc|work, hahaha in spanish
[04:10] <doc|work> weird, I wasn't making a joke.
[04:10] <doc|work> thanks for the explanation
[04:12] <Perverso> I am laughing ok
[04:12] <psychoticwarrior> ok\
[04:14] <Perverso> https://www.onlinevideoconverter.com/mp3-converter           is good thanks
[04:14] <doc|work> ok
[04:14] <psychoticwarrior> yea no problem bro
[04:14] <psychoticwarrior> works great
[04:15] <Perverso> thanks amigo
[04:16] <psychoticwarrior> np
[04:19] <lord-arhemadan> Is there a reason there's a Xorg.0.log and Xorg.1.log? :P
[04:19] <psychoticwarrior> not sure
[04:19] <psychoticwarrior> i think its two differnt files
[04:20] <lord-arhemadan> I see lol. Knowing that, is pastebin fine for this channel?
[04:21] <hanasaki> how do you list all the installed gnome controls and turn them on/off?
[04:21] <Bashing-om> lord-arhemadan: .log is the present boot - .log.old is the last boot - what X thinks .
[04:21] <ChaiTRex> lord-arhemadan: It's for the display number.
[04:21] <lord-arhemadan> Hm. Weird.
[04:22] <lord-arhemadan> Not sure why I'd have a second display on that old tin can, unless it's assuming the VGA port's in use
[04:22] <ChaiTRex> lord-arhemadan: From man Xorg: "The default log file when running as root is /var/log/Xorg.n.log and for non root it is $XDG_DATA_HOME/xorg/Xorg.n.log where n is the display number of the Xorg server."
[04:23] <Perverso> ¬¬
[04:25] <lord-arhemadan> I see :P Anyway, I just upgraded my old powerbook to 14.04.5 and now X basically shows a cursor for about half a minute, and then goes back to the console.
[04:25] <psychoticwarrior> lord-ahemadan are you from norway?
[04:25] <lord-arhemadan> United States :)
[04:25] <psychoticwarrior> yea me too
[04:25] <lord-arhemadan> And with that I have the following paste: https://pastebin.com/qmL8nJpY
[04:26] <Perverso> I'm going to study English so I can answer them well
[04:26] <psychoticwarrior> sounds good
[04:27] <Perverso> I'm Mexican and Americans hate us
[04:28] <lord-arhemadan> Oh, I was wondering if your user was in Spanish ;)
[04:28] <Perverso> yes
[04:29] <lord-arhemadan> As long as it was something descended from Latin I could be pretty sure what it meant hahaha :P
[04:29] <Perverso> xD
[04:31] <psychoticwarrior> isnt that like lord from black metal
[04:32] <Perverso> Because the Americans hate us?
[04:33] <psychoticwarrior> what do you mean hate?
[04:34] <Perverso> no estoy seguro pero asi se siente
[04:34] <Perverso> xD
 you are american?
[04:36] <psychoticwarrior> yes im from chicagoland area
[04:36] <psychoticwarrior> where are you from?
[04:37] <Perverso> i'm from mexico Morelos
[04:37] <psychoticwarrior> nice
[04:37] <psychoticwarrior> i have a friend that lives in mexico
[04:37] <Perverso> i have all family in USA xD
[04:39] <Perverso> you understand Spanish
[04:39] <Perverso> ?
[04:41] <psychoticwarrior> no no spanish
[04:42] <Perverso> ok
[04:42] <Perverso> teach me English
[04:42] <psychoticwarrior> what version of ubuntu do you have?
[04:42] <Perverso> ubuntu mate
[04:42] <YankDownUnder> Espanol is nicer than English...what's the point?
[04:43] <Perverso> jajajaja
[04:43] <psychoticwarrior> do u like spanish
[04:44] <Perverso> i'd like spick inglish
[04:44] <psychoticwarrior> you would like to speak english?
[04:45] <Perverso> yes
[04:45] <YankDownUnder> ...y'all know...before an OP comes into the channel...it's all kinda "OT", hmm?
[04:46] <Perverso> teach me
[04:50] <Perverso> jajaajajaja mejor se fue xD
[04:51] <Perverso> me pregunto si fui demasiado perverso
[04:53] <Perverso> como estan todos pues
[04:55] <Perverso> yo volvere este canal al español
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[05:00] <nicomachus> well, at least he tagged some ops.
[05:00] <mundus2018> lol
[05:00] <nicomachus> !es | Perverso
[05:03] <sumeet_> Is there a way to use text to speech on ubuntu. I want to listen to pocket articles https://help.getpocket.com/article/1081-listening-to-articles-in-pocket-with-text-to-speech
[05:03] <nicomachus> sumeet_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech
[05:06] <psychoticwarrior> back
[05:06] <psychoticwarrior> whats up
[05:06] <sumeet_> Thanks nicomachus. Am using Ubuntu mate latest version where this hasn't been tested. Is there some other way
[05:07] <nicomachus> sumeet_: any of those options should work in MATE...
[05:07] <nicomachus> MATE is just a DE. It's still Ubuntu under there.
[05:07] <sumeet_> Ok. Trying it out. Thanks :)
[05:09] <psychoticwarrior> i love using a backdoor. editing the kernel and typeing at the end of linux init=/bin/bash and bypassing the system
[05:10] <nicomachus> lol
[05:10] <nicomachus> stay on topic.
[05:11] <Perverso> ok
[05:13] <Perverso> porque no me dejan hablar en español he?
[05:14] <nicomachus> ...
[05:14] <nicomachus> !es | Perverso
[05:15] <nicomachus> !es > Perverso
[05:16] <Perverso> What's up
[05:16] <Perverso> ok
[05:17] <Perverso> I do not understand Spanish
[05:17] <Perverso> xD
[05:24] <psychoticwarrior> yea me neither
[05:24] <Perverso> jajajaja xd
[05:52] <sumeet_> text to speech not working for me.  I tried the scaling in the display settings and this was it at 2x. http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1495290629.png
[06:29] <croz> I'm running KDE Plasma on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (did not install Kubuntu).
[06:31] <psychoticwarrior> im running ubuntu 16.04
[06:31] <akik> croz: you should describe the problem too
[06:33] <croz> my screen. when i set the laptop's resolution to 4k everything is tiny
[06:33] <croz> i tried scaling it up
[06:33] <croz> boxes get bigger, but the fonts are too small
[06:35] <akik> croz: if the scaling doesn't work, there's also settings for font sizes in system settings/application appearance
[06:36] <croz> i dont see application apeparance
[06:36] <akik> croz: although your firefox seems fine
[06:37] <akik> firefox has its own font settings too
[06:37] <croz> it does but not the tabs
[06:37] <akik> croz: try searching for font in system settings
[06:38] <croz> ah i see it. does it help if i input my dpi? 282.4
[06:39] <akik> croz: do you have the problemm only with hexchat?
[06:39] <croz> and settings windows
[06:40] <akik> croz: ok play with those settings that you found
[06:40] <akik> croz: i'm using kde 4 so the settings might be a bit different. there's a separate setting for font dpi
[06:41] <croz> ok fixed hexchat with ur suggestion of fonts
[06:41] <akik> croz: "force fonts dpi"
[06:41] <croz> yeah i did force dpi 282
[06:41] <croz> and hexchat looks fine now
[06:41] <croz> let me try scaling and logging out and back in now to see if that fixes everything.
[06:42] <croz> brb
[06:44] <cegu3> hello
[07:01] <wilkesboothstyle> Hey guys. Outside of running OSX in a VM on a Ubuntu host, is there any way I can develop/test iOS apps on Linux?
[07:14] <Asiannoodles42> Hey guys so I have this weird issue where the internet speeds are overall slower on Ubuntu than on Windows
[07:16] <sirru5h> Hmm.. how are you connecting ? Ethernet or WiFi
[07:19] <Asiannoodles42> Im connecting via WiFi
[07:24] <hhzhk`> whoami
[07:27] <sirru5h> Alright did you recently upgrade?
[07:27] <sirru5h> ^^ @ Asiannoodles42
[07:29] <Asiannoodles42> I guess so yes
[07:30] <sirru5h> what are ya running right now and what were you running previously and when did ya upgrade
[07:31] <yndlkk> w
[07:31] <Asiannoodles42> 16.04 to 16.04.2
[07:32] <sirru5h> hmmm  thats interesting
[07:33] <sirru5h> Let me do a bit of poking about on google right quick
[07:33] <sirru5h> ( there was a guy here who went from 16.04 to 17.04 and he had this issue)
[07:33] <Asiannoodles42> Ah
[07:33] <Da5h> can someone point me out to security related channels?
[07:34] <psychoticwarrior> what issue did he have
[07:34] <sirru5h> psychoticwarrior, slow internet
[07:34] <psychoticwarrior> yea
[07:34] <psychoticwarrior> i have kali linux and im having issues with it disconnecting
[07:35] <Asiannoodles42> Same
[07:35] <psychoticwarrior> interface goes down
[07:35] <Ben64> well kali isn't supported here
[07:35] <psychoticwarrior> yea true
[07:35] <sirru5h> Asiannoodles42, you already made sure you are totally up to date ( sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade)
[07:35] <sirru5h> psychoticwarrior, Yeah man #kali-linux
[07:36] <Asiannoodles42> sirru5h I'm totally up to date
[07:36] <sirru5h> hmmm
[07:36] <sirru5h> did ya reboot after the upgrade and all that
[07:37] <Asiannoodles42> Yep
[07:42] <sirru5h> hmmm thinking
[07:43] <azizLIGHT> how come my terminal doesnt wrap text around and resize to fit when i resize the terminal window. im on 14.04 and it doesnt resize. i used a 16.04 livecd and noticed that everythign was being formatted/resized correctly when window size for terminal changed
[07:44] <Ben64> azizLIGHT: because it doesn't on 14.04
[07:44] <sirru5h> Asiannoodles42, crazy question you running IPv6?
[07:45] <Asiannoodles42> I turned it off so nope
[07:45] <azizLIGHT> aw shucks
[07:45] <sirru5h> ha what card is it?
[07:46] <Asiannoodles42> WiFi card? I use a dongle EW-7811un
[07:49] <sirru5h> okay so external and its edimax
[07:49] <Asiannoodles42> Yup
[07:50] <sirru5h> pretty compatible card
[07:51] <Asiannoodles42> And for some reason my download speeds are way faster on Windows
[07:52] <sirru5h> well lets start looking at the lsusb
[07:53] <sirru5h> you know Asiannoodles42 you're the second person I talked with in as many days who had slow internet and he was even on ethernet
[07:53] <YankDownUnder> The "driver" for the dongle would have been specifically written for MS.
[07:54] <sirru5h> so YankDownUnder tricky driver?
[07:54] <Asiannoodles42> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 7392:7811 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd EW-7811Un 802.11n Wireless Adapter [Realtek RTL8188CUS]
[07:54] <Asiannoodles42> I did lsusb and one of the results was this
[07:55] <sirru5h> ohhh okay
[07:56] <YankDownUnder> So it's actually a Realtek bit of hardware.
[07:57] <sirru5h> yeah its got their chipset
[07:57] <sirru5h> Lets see what module its loading for it lsmod | grep 8192
[07:57] <YankDownUnder> Asiannoodles42, You're installed 17.04, yes?
[07:57] <Asiannoodles42> My Ubuntu is 16.04
[07:58] <Asiannoodles42> *.2
[07:58] <sirru5h> 16.04.2
[07:58] <YankDownUnder> Asiannoodles42, Ah...sorry...was making an assumption based on "network problems" - as most have been from 17.04 installations...my bad...
[07:58] <YankDownUnder> Asiannoodles42, Just for the knowledge - have you tried to assign a static IP to the dongle's connection?
[07:59] <Asiannoodles42> No I have not
[08:04] <one808> 哇
[08:09] <sirru5h> YankDownUnder, what do ya think? check the lsmod | grep 8192   check the module then blacklist?
[08:10] <YankDownUnder> Check for "blacklisting" - but also test the actual connection. Being that RT's are inherently flaky at best...configure using a static IP so that at least the actual connection itself can be ruled out...does that make sense?
[08:11] <one808> hello
[08:11] <sirru5h> makes sense
[08:13] <YankDownUnder> sirru5h, After the connection itself is tested, modules and hardware configuration. With a static IP and static DNS, you should be able to at least tell what's the real deal.
[08:13] <one808> ..
[08:13] <sirru5h> Alright sounds good
[08:14] <sirru5h> Asiannoodles42, you still there?
[08:15] <Asiannoodles42> Yep
[08:15] <Asiannoodles42> Still here
[08:16] <SemiNus1> hi
[08:17] <sirru5h> cool beans
[08:17] <SemiNus1> cooler apples
[08:17] <Asiannoodles42> Coolest CPU
[08:18] <sirru5h> sudo favoriteEditor /etc/network/interfaces
[08:19] <Asiannoodles42> Alright
[08:19] <Asiannoodles42> All I have on it is "# interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
[08:19] <Asiannoodles42> auto eth0
[08:19] <Asiannoodles42> iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[08:20] <sirru5h> the device in question is wlan0 if youre not sure ifconfig would pinpoint the wireless interface
[08:21] <sirru5h> Asiannoodles42,  what about the wireless interface
[08:21] <Asiannoodles42> My wireless device is wlx74da387d47aa
[08:22] <sirru5h> alright long name there
[08:22] <Asiannoodles42> Do I change eth0 to wlx74da387d47aa?
[08:23] <sirru5h> No eth0 is ethernet we want the wifi
[08:23] <sirru5h> so I am guessing there is no entry for it
[08:23] <SemiNus1> Question:  How can I convert RAW images to jpg from the command line using image magick?
[08:23] <SemiNus1> imagemagick does not work (error) when it comes to raw files
[08:24] <SemiNus1> the #imagemagick guys told me I compiled imagemagick without raw support
[08:24] <sirru5h> auto wlx74da387d47aa  (first line should look like this )
[08:24] <SemiNus1> but I did not compile it - I just apt-getted it
[08:24] <SemiNus1> apt-got it?
[08:24] <SemiNus1> whatever the past tense would be of this action
[08:24] <Asiannoodles42> sirru5h Got it
[08:25] <sirru5h> iface wlx74da387d47aa inet static
[08:25] <Asiannoodles42> Done
[08:26] <Coding> hello
[08:26] <Coding> is anyone there?
[08:26] <sirru5h> address 192.168.1.X  (X is a number you want to assign also make sure you're on the same subnet remember <IP_ADDRESS> generally is your gateway/router)
[08:27] <Coding> anyone?
[08:27] <Coding> hello
[08:28] <Coding> does this work?
[08:28] <sirru5h> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>  ( if you need to make changes to suit your network config make them)
[08:28] <Coding> what?
[08:28] <Asiannoodles42> This is all in /etc/network/interfaces right?
[08:28] <sirru5h> Coding, we do see you
[08:28] <sirru5h> yes
[08:28] <YankDownUnder> SemiNus1, Open a terminal and type: man convert ==> this will tell you how to use the "convert" utiliity from the ImageMagick suite
[08:28] <Coding> ohhh cool!
[08:28] <Coding> i havent used Linux in ages!
[08:29] <Asiannoodles42> M'kay got it
[08:29] <sirru5h> gateway <IP_ADDRESS>  ( if different make appropriate changes)
[08:31] <Asiannoodles42> m'kay
[08:31] <WERDNA> what is the point of this chat?
[08:31] <WERDNA> just wondering?
[08:31] <YankDownUnder> WERDNA, This is the Ubuntu support channel for Ubuntu linux.
[08:31] <WERDNA> oh cool!
[08:31] <MonkeyDust> WERDNA  type   /topic
[08:31] <sirru5h> dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> ( totally example right there )
[08:32] <WERDNA> this reminds me of the old way skype used to be
[08:32] <Asiannoodles42> Do I do both <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> or just one of them?
[08:32] <MonkeyDust> WERDNA  great, but keep this channel free for ubuntu support questions
[08:33] <sirru5h> Asiannoodles42,  umm whats the DNS for your ISP or network?
[08:33] <WERDNA> well with that being said, i have been able to install dotnet core as well as Visual Code, however when installing mono, it doesnt appear in the programs list
[08:33] <Asiannoodles42> I'm using the Google Public DNS
[08:34] <MonkeyDust> !find mono
[08:34] <sirru5h> Okay so you want to put that in instead of he exaple octets i use
[08:34] <Asiannoodles42> M'kay
[08:35] <sirru5h> yeah Asiannoodles42 I use example IP's and stuff since I don't know your network config
[08:35] <sirru5h> you can always change anything which doesn't apply to your particular configuration
[08:35] <Asiannoodles42> It looks right to me
[08:36] <sirru5h> okay doing good
[08:36] <YankDownUnder> Asiannoodles42, Kinda easy to go from your IP address - the one the router's already spit out at yer dongle...
[08:36] <sirru5h> now we gotta add our route
[08:37] <sirru5h> so it knows that your IP sends to the gateway then out to the internet
[08:38] <sirru5h> up route add -net <IP_ADDRESS>/21 gw <IP_ADDRESS> dev wlx74da387d47aa
[08:38] <Asiannoodles42> "up route add -net <IP_ADDRESS>/21 gw <IP_ADDRESS> dev wlx74da387d47aa" add all of that?
[08:38] <sirru5h> of course you are putting in your IP and the gateway if
[08:39] <sirru5h> remember it's so your particular network
[08:39] <Asiannoodles42> The first IP is the Address right?
[08:39] <sirru5h> up route add -net YourIpHere /21 gw GATE:WAY:IP:HERE dev wlx74da387d47aa
[08:40] <Asiannoodles42> Done
[08:40] <sirru5h> yes we actually can use CIDR notaton ( its geeky network stuff)
[08:40] <wssxk> have any one learn gtk?
[08:40] <wssxk> how can I finalize a instance while GTypeInfo dose not set a instance finalize func?
[08:41] <Asiannoodles42> Oh
[08:41] <sirru5h> YankDownUnder, what do ya think I'm kinda just remembering this all off the cuff
[08:41] <YankDownUnder> sirru5h, Hope you still can do that when you're 54, bro.
[08:41] <MonkeyDust> wssxk  are you a developer?
[08:42] <sirru5h> oh lord haha
[08:42] <wssxk> I am learnng gtk
[08:42] <sirru5h> Alright thats a static IP
[08:42] <sirru5h> umm lets save
[08:42] <Asiannoodles42> M'kay
[08:42] <wssxk> but the doc is not so friendly
[08:43] <sirru5h> Asiannoodles42, one thing I wanna double check something
[08:43] <Asiannoodles42> Whats that
[08:43] <YankDownUnder> GTK is the programming language of all the hackers and fraudsters...ayep...
[08:43] <MonkeyDust> wssxk  type   /j #gtk+
[08:44] <sirru5h> can you ls /etc/network/interfaces.d/wlx74da387d47aa
[08:45] <Asiannoodles42> Not such file directory
[08:45] <sirru5h> sometimes I've seen a file for the device not be in there and it will cut in and out
[08:45] <sirru5h> errr ls /etc/network/interfaces.d/
[08:45] <wssxk> there are few people in #gtk+, no one answer me ;.
[08:45] <sirru5h> sorry I am actually trying to make sure your device is there
[08:46] <Asiannoodles42> errr command not found
[08:46] <sirru5h> ls right
[08:47] <Asiannoodles42> Yeah
[08:47] <sirru5h> hmmm weird
[08:48] <sirru5h> ls is for listing the contents of a directory
[08:48] <Asiannoodles42> Yep, it works
[08:49] <sirru5h> alright cool
[08:49] <sirru5h> alright ummm we are gonna flush our old address
[08:50] <sirru5h> get things refreshed
[08:50] <YankDownUnder> sirru5h, If y'all create the text file in like his home dir, double check it, and then copy it nicely over into /etc/network/interfaces.d - (copy - not move) - kinda makes it nice to have two copies to muck with...just sayin...
[08:50] <Asiannoodles42> M'kay, how do flush?
[08:50] <sirru5h> udo ip addr flush wlx74da387d47aa
[08:50] <sirru5h> sorry
[08:50] <sirru5h> sudo ip addr flush wlx74da387d47aa
[08:51] <sirru5h> sudo systemctl restart networking.service
[08:51] <Combined2857> hi, a permission of a folder is "drwx------ 2 root root " how do I change it to include the user as well ?
[08:51] <Asiannoodles42> Done
[08:51] <sirru5h> very true YankDownUnder didn't think about that
[08:52] <Asiannoodles42> I'm using the Wicd network manager
[08:52] <Asiannoodles42> So I shouldn't have networking.service
[08:53] <Ben64> Combined2857: permissions are owner group other, rwx rwx rwx, each binary like 421 421 421, so just add up the permissions you want and set it like that
[08:54] <sirru5h> okay iirc its wicd-client  let me double check
[08:55] <sirru5h> yeah that's it
[08:56] <Asiannoodles42> so sudo systemctl wicd-client restart?
[08:57] <sirru5h> sudo systemctl restart wicd-client
[08:57] <Asiannoodles42> Ah, m'kay
[08:59] <Asiannoodles42> it says that wicd-client.service is not found
[09:00] <sirru5h> hmmm
[09:01] <sirru5h> you can sudo wicd-client
[09:01] <YankDownUnder> "sudo service wicd-client restart" ? => just in case it's not a systemd service...
[09:02] <sirru5h> wait
[09:02] <Asiannoodles42> Yes I can do wicd-client
[09:02] <Asiannoodles42> *sudo wicd-client
[09:02] <sirru5h> acutally looking up packages
[09:04] <sirru5h> hmmm YankDownUnder it is wicd-client right>
[09:05] <sirru5h> hmm just got confused right now
[09:07] <sirru5h> googling
[09:11] <sirru5h> Asiannoodles42, I never dealt with wicd
[09:11] <Asiannoodles42> Ah
[09:11] <sirru5h> so I gotta google all this up i remember it was wicd-client restart
[09:12] <newdimension> I'm running "systemd analyze service" and the answer I'm getting is "Excess arguments". Could this be a syntax problem? The file was working and I only added more Environment= lines
[09:12] <sirru5h> I dunno if YankDownUnder is around but I'm sure he'd know
[09:13] <Asiannoodles42> Should I just reboot?
[09:15] <sirru5h> actually that would work we did flush the cache and it will restart the service
[09:15] <Asiannoodles42> M'kay
[09:16] <sirru5h> I really wanted to refresh the setting so if it wasn't the settings and the module we could get that
[09:16] <sirru5h> (crosses fingers)
[09:18] <Asiannoodles42> Back
[09:18] <sirru5h> so?
[09:19] <Asiannoodles42> Imma do a speed test
[09:19] <sirru5h> how is it now
[09:19] <sirru5h> mmm ok
[09:20] <newdimension> systemd is failing to start a gunicorn service. I can't seem to find a reason why. Where can I look? journalctl log isn't helpful
[09:20] <Asiannoodles42> Oh wow
[09:20] <sirru5h> whats the verdict?
[09:21] <Asiannoodles42> Speed doubled from 0.27Mbps before to 0.58Mbps now
[09:22] <sirru5h> Asiannoodles42, okay so is that what you get on windows?
[09:22] <Asiannoodles42> On Windows I got 1.88Mbps
[09:22] <Asiannoodles42> Still an improvement
[09:22] <sirru5h> hmmm
[09:23] <sirru5h> yeah as yank was saying I guess the drivers are flaky
[09:23] <sirru5h> i wonder if that's what is causing that or something else...
[09:26] <Asiannoodles42> Hrmm..
[09:27] <sirru5h> did you check what module is being used?
[09:28] <Asiannoodles42> module? how do I check?
[09:28] <sirru5h> YankDownUnder,  lsmod | grep 8192
[09:33] <Asiannoodles42> sirru6h I did lsmod | grep 8192 and got "rtl8192cu              65536  0
[09:33] <Asiannoodles42> rtl_usb                20480  1 rtl8192cu
[09:33] <Asiannoodles42> rtl8192c_common        53248  1 rtl8192cu
[09:33] <Asiannoodles42> rtlwifi                77824  3 rtl_usb,rtl8192c_common,rtl8192cu
[09:33] <Asiannoodles42> mac80211              761856  4 rtl_usb,rtlwifi,rtl8192cu,rtl8xxxu
[09:33] <Asiannoodles42> r8169                  81920  0
[09:33] <MonkeyDust> Asiannoodles42  next time, use a pastebin ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[09:34] <Asiannoodles42> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24616253/
[09:36] <sirru5h> Sorry Asiannoodles42 got disconnected
[09:37] <Asiannoodles42> Np, anyways I did lsmod | grep 8192 and got this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24616253/
[09:37] <sirru5h> excellent I was just about to retype the command
[09:39] <ComposMentis> Is this a general support channel?
[09:40] <Asiannoodles42> For ubuntu yep
[09:40] <MonkeyDust> ComposMentis  type   /topic
[09:40] <sirru5h> Asiannoodles42, Hey just came across this https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/reserve-7
[09:40] <sirru5h> looks like exactly our issue under the partRealtek RTL8188CUS and RTL8192CU chipsets (0bda:8176 and 0bda:8178)
[09:41] <ComposMentis> Phenomenal! I'm about ready to tear my hear out. I'm on 17.04 Budgie - I have 4 monitors. I finally got it to see the PRIME, but now my secondary Nvidia GPU won't show up & xorg.conf settings reset after lightdm restart or sys reboot.
[09:41] <Asiannoodles42> I see
[09:41] <sirru5h> I'm gonna give it a quick read i suggest you do as well so we both have a better idea of what issues maybe going on
[09:42] <Asiannoodles42> Thank you!
[09:45] <Qzor> Hi All, just wondering if anyone knows if the Microsoft Remote Desktop Client is available for ubuntu as it is for OSX/Apple Store?
[09:45] <ComposMentis> I know there are RDP protocol alternatives - I think grdesktop is one of them.
[09:46] <SchrodingersScat> !info rdesktop
[09:46] <ComposMentis> I've also heard good things about Remmina but I haven't used either so I can't confirm they handle that specifically
[09:46] <ComposMentis> ^ very nice :)
[09:46] <Qzor> I've just tried Remmina but dosn't quite seem as fast. :\
[09:46] <SchrodingersScat> !info remmina
[09:46] <akik> Qzor: rdesktop has worked fine
[09:47] <Qzor> as native or the MAC/Apple store client by Microsoft.
[09:47] <sirru5h> hmm Asiannoodles42 tell me when you have read that section relating to your wireless card
[09:47] <Asiannoodles42> Yep done
[09:47] <SchrodingersScat> Qzor: all vnc is rather sad, use ssh where available
[09:49] <Asiannoodles42> sirru5h so all I need to do is follow the instructions and it should be fixed right?
[09:49] <akik> SchrodingersScat: i think Qzor wanted to access a windows server graphically
[09:49] <Qzor> SchrodingersScat, agreed.. Using RDP into RDSH Servers
[09:49] <sirru5h> Asian it kinda describes your issue to a T; The slow internet speeds
[09:49] <ComposMentis> Can anyone lend advice on dual GPU + iGPU setup?
[09:49] <SchrodingersScat> akik: meaning they have 2 problems
[09:50] <akik> SchrodingersScat: what do you mean?
[09:50] <SchrodingersScat> akik: problem 1, using windows. problem 2, using a gui remotely.
[09:50] <ComposMentis> If that's the case, could you setup Windows in a VM and use Unity/Seamless/etc ?
[09:50] <akik> SchrodingersScat: well neither of them is a problem
[09:50] <sirru5h> Asiannoodles42, Yeah I actually have heard that those drivers work pretty good( I have another machine with rtl 8188ee and I plan on grabbing those drivers myself and getting that wifi working)
[09:51] <SchrodingersScat> yet here we are
[09:51] <MATI_81_DE_EN> Hallo
[09:51] <Asiannoodles42> Seems easy enough, anyways thank you so much for your time sirru5h
[09:52] <sirru5h> I hope I helped I haven't had to set static IPs for a while
[09:52] <sirru5h> Thank you for your patience and great meeting you
[09:53] <Asiannoodles42> You too! ^-^
[09:53] <caram> hey
[09:54] <caram> anyone there?
[09:54] <MATI_81_DE_EN> yes iam here
[09:54] <ComposMentis> @caram everyone is here.
[09:54] <Bischoop> Hi caram How are you?
[09:54] <caram> incredible
[09:54] <Bischoop> Why is it so?
[09:54] <caram> @Bischoop fine thanks!
[09:55] <caram> but if everyone is here, who's there in the world outside?
[09:55] <ComposMentis> Everyone_Else
[09:55] <Bischoop> Go and check out ;-)
[09:55] <caram> strange world
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> ComposMentis  caram you can drop the @ ... type 2-3 characters of a name, then hit tab to autocomplete
[09:55] <Bischoop> have you been there outside?
[09:55] <ComposMentis> MonkeyDust, thanks :)
[09:55] <caram> MonkeyDust, thx
[09:56] <ComposMentis> Just bumping again to see if anyone new has experience with Xorg.conf setup and dual GPU setups
[09:56] <sirru5h> !seen psychotic
[09:56] <sirru5h> gah
[09:58] <MATI_81_DE_EN> i am looking for a linux for my niece she is 17 and i have an old pc (fujitsu amilo, Intel Pentium M 740 1.73 GHz) know somebody a linux for my aplication?
[10:01] <MATI_81_DE_EN> i think this chat is wrong for this question sorry
[10:01] <akik> MATI_81_DE_EN: it depends on the specs of the machine
[10:02] <akik> MATI_81_DE_EN: you can test your system's compatibility with a live session but it will be a bit slow
[10:02] <MonkeyDust> MATI_81_DE_EN  better ask in ##linux or in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:03] <MATI_81_DE_EN> the system must be easy to use my niece has no exp in linux
[10:03] <MATI_81_DE_EN> ok i will ask in the linux chatroom
[10:04] <MATI_81_DE_EN> thank you aki and monkeydust for your help
[10:04] <MATI_81_DE_EN> bye bye
[10:05] <Bischoop> bye MATI_81_DE_EN
[10:19] <santhust> I have noticed automatic downloads from cdce.sin002.internap.com. Multiple times. I do not understand what for it is, why it occurs, or how to stop it. I have disabled all auto updates, even security updates. Recently, I even did $ sudo systemctl disable apt-daily.timer. But the said auto download occurs even now. Any clues? Suggestions how to stop this?
[10:21] <neutronbomb> anyone has used wireshark? pm ty
[10:21] <implite> what packets are you sniffing?
[10:25] <neutronbomb> currently setting it up having issues adding interface any idea
[10:30] <composmentis> Hello again
[10:31] <sirru5h> neutronbomb, just wondering wifi?
[10:31] <composmentis> Can anyone assist with Xorg configuration & dual NVIDIA GPU setup>?
[10:31] <composmentis> Can anyone assist with Xorg configuration & dual NVIDIA GPU setup?
[10:31] <composmentis> (sorry for double post)
[10:44] <xzillen> hallo
[10:48] <composmentis> Hellooo
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> !patience | composmentis
[10:50] <composmentis> MonkeyDust, I wasn't "Hellooooing" for help, I was "helloooing" xzillen
[10:51] <composmentis> Just tryina be friendly
[10:56] <Asiannoodles42> Hello sirru5h!
[10:56] <Asiannoodles42> Just wanted to again say thank you so much
[11:01] <Ridley5> hi all
[11:01] <composmentis> Aloha, Ridley5
[11:01] <Ridley5> i have a problem with internet speed on windows it's Ok but Ubuntu 16.04LTS down (50Kb/s)
[11:02] <Ridley5> this is the Wireless info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24616660/
[11:02] <Ridley5> hi composmentis
[11:04] <cfhowlett> atheros wifi is notoriously hinky with ubuntu, Ridley5.  My suggestion for sake of sanity is replace it with something linux friendly
[11:04] <Ridley5> do you mean replacing my wireless interface ?
[11:05] <cfhowlett> yep
[11:05] <Ridley5> i have a zydas based ship usb wifi dongle, it is linux friendly ?
[11:06] <cfhowlett> never heard of zybas.  intel works just fine.
[11:07] <Ridley5> ok thanks
[11:07] <Bischoop> Try different Version of Distro perhaps Ridley5
[11:07] <Ridley5> you mean the driver Bischoop?
[11:08] <Ridley5> or the entire distribution
[11:10] <Ridley5> i reboot for traying this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/844846/qualcomm-atheros-slow-not-connecting-on-ubuntu-but-works-in-win-10
[11:10] <Ridley5> wbb
[11:16] <gebbione> anyone ever used a camcoder as webcam?
[11:16] <gebbione> I am thinking to get something like a gopro and use it also as a webcam
[11:17] <cfhowlett> would it not be easier to just, you know, get a webcam?  lot cheaper than a gopro and ready to go out of the box.
[11:18] <gebbione> a webcam cannot be used as a camcoder
[11:18] <gebbione> does not have a stabiliser
[11:18] <gebbione> and usually their quality is rubbish
[11:18] <gebbione> also u can get an alternative camcoder at webcam prices
[11:20] <gebbione> 4k optics http://www.gearbest.com/m-goods-sn-158135605.htm
[11:21] <cfhowlett> gebbione, laptop?
[11:21] <gebbione> no, desktop
[11:21] <gebbione> ubuntu 16
[11:22] <cfhowlett> is your COMPUTER a laptop?
 no, desktop
[11:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:23] <Ridley5> same problem
[11:32] <rx_> hello
[11:34] <rx_> my apache service is running, but my site does not show in google
[11:34] <gebbione> ask google
[11:34] <rx_> ok
[11:35] <rx_> welcome Apunkt
[11:36] <rx_> nice sunday
[11:36] <rx_> nice weather
[11:38] <Silverin_> Hi everyone! After a LFS install (with ubuntu 16.04 as host). I edited my grub.cfg in order to create a dual boot here is it : http://digitalblend.fr/lfs-screen.jpg However I get : "Unknown file system you need to load the kernel first" when I try to boot on ubuntu.. any idea?
[11:39] <Silverin_> fdisk -l reurns : http://digitalblend.fr/lfs-screen2.jpg
[11:57] <kerash> hi all
[11:58] <auronandace1> Silverin_: are you sure you got the root section right? you seem to be only referring to a disk and not any partitions on the disk
[11:59] <Silverin_> auronandace1 : How can I check that?
[11:59] <auronandace1> !grub2 | Silverin_
[12:01] <Silverin_> ubottu : reinstall grub on ubuntu may crash my lfs boot ?
[12:02] <auronandace1> Silverin_: also, if you are using grub2 then you shouldn't be editing the grub.cfg file directly. There are files elsewhere to edit and then you generate the grub.cfg file
[12:03] <auronandace1> Silverin_: the troubleshooting guide ubottu linked you to shows you how to make a proper entry
[12:06] <ioria> Silverin_, /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[12:07] <gtav> I'm at the installation for ubuntu LST through VM. I'm using windows. And it ask me "erase all disk and install ubuntu" ... this wouldn't delete windows, would it?
[12:07] <auronandace1> gtav: if your installation is in the vm it will delete everything on the vm's disk, it will not affect your host
[12:08] <gtav> auronandace1 ok thanks!
[12:16] <SunnyWays> Good morning. I have a question that is difficult to Google. I installed Ubuntu onto a new hard-drive for a PC laptop. Seemed to boot fine as an external USB device. Then I booted the same disk on a Mac laptop to copy some files over. Now I can't seem to boot on the PC again. May booting the Mac have damaged the boot record?
[12:22] <Jack_Sparrow__> I seem to remember that DOS based systems used to write a single byte to linux hard drives that it mounted that screwed them up going back to linux. I dont now what might have happened.
[12:23] <auronandace> I thought Macs were GPT based rather than DOS
[12:25] <SunnyWays> The odd thing is that I booted the mac with that drive. So it was running Ubuntu. I copied files from another drive into ubuntu.
[12:25] <Jack_Sparrow__> SunnyWays, did you use super powers to copy.. into what folder?
[12:26] <SunnyWays> Jack_Sparrow__: Hmm. I did copy a folder that was locked and I had to chmod to make it readable by all.
[12:27] <SunnyWays> Jack_Sparrow__: But it copied fine. And the the other file (a large 190gb file) was just a drag and drop.
[12:27] <Jack_Sparrow__> You may be your own worst enemy
[12:28] <SunnyWays> Jack_Sparrow__: Well, that I already knew. But why specifically?
[12:28] <SunnyWays> (this time)
[12:28] <Jack_Sparrow__> throw Ubuntu on the drive again try it on the mac again but without the copy then back tot he pc
[12:29] <SunnyWays> Jack_Sparrow__: Installing Ubuntu isn't a big deal at all. The drive was fresh and the install takes 10m.  So I kind of want to avoid doing that. :)
[12:30] <Jack_Sparrow__> Room to make a second partition?
[12:31] <SunnyWays> Jack_Sparrow__: I thought of this this morning. I could do this if I have to reinstall.
[12:31] <SunnyWays> Jack_Sparrow__: So you think it's no longer bootable on the PC at all? Would reinstalling on top of the current install repair?
[12:31] <Jack_Sparrow__> YOu can shrink the one you have
[12:32] <auronandace> SunnyWays: a storage partition for your files does make installing/reinstalling operating systems much easer
[12:32] <Jack_Sparrow__> I have a feeling it wont boot if you go back to the mac?
[12:33] <SunnyWays> Ah. So you think it's unbootable. I'll try it out now. I'll try to join irc in my raspberry pi. I hope it doesn't crash.
[12:34] <Jack_Sparrow__> People may think Im crazy but I mount just my Desktop on a sep partition, reinstall slides in any time with a short script of things I add or change..
[12:34] <Jack_Sparrow__> SunnyWays, I just got that feeling
[12:35] <Jack_Sparrow__> Its only 5am here so question anything I might have to say
[12:36] <SunnyWays> Jack_Sparrow__: lol
[12:36] <SunnyWays> brb
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow__> SunnyWays, We want to look at free space on that drive and room for another partition
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow__> k.. cya in a sec
[12:37] <auronandace> Jack_Sparrow__: you just missed him with your last two statements
[12:41] <SunnyWays> Jack_Sparrow__: The mac boots fine with the drive.
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow__> Damn
[12:42] <Jack_Sparrow__> Ununtu boots ? so that kills that theory
[12:42] <SunnyWays> Jack_Sparrow__: It may be the POS HP laptop then. I'll have to try again. Maybe I missed something in the boot order. But when I select boot options, I see the external drive (Crucial). I select it and it's a black screen.
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow__> its set for legacy not that secure boot stuff right
[12:43] <SunnyWays> Yeah, it should be.
[12:45] <Jack_Sparrow__> Tough problem.  Id still shrink the partition you have on that usb drive and put an os below it
[12:46] <SunnyWays> Jack_Sparrow__: Yep. I used to do that by default. But it's been years I haven't really ran Linux as the main OS.
[12:46] <SunnyWays> Jack_Sparrow__: Thanks for your help. :)
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow__> np, just an old timer hanging out
[12:48] <ioria> SunnyWays, you can boot a live stick so  you could  have a better look  and repair stuff if needed
[12:58] <SunnyWays> ioria: Yep, that's a good idea. I'm sure I could have this resolved without too much work. But it's my GF's computer and she's reluctant to let me upgrade her hard drive from some coal-powered 10mb/s pos to this new SSD. :)
[13:04] <BluesKaj> SunnyWays, clonezilla ?
[13:08] <vimes> Hello! I threw some money at digital ocean for a VPS, it's running Ubuntu 16.04. they want money for making back up images when I want, but I also have a personal NAS. Is there a way to make a complete OS back up image and download it to my NAS instead of using the DigitalOcean services? saving me some dollars :)
[13:08] <tincature> hello everyone. in a test environment, i have one iscsi target set up with tgtadm with a backing store of /dev/sdb. the service starts up at boot, but it keeps "forgetting" /dev/sdb as a LUN. i have to re-run the tgtadm command to "export" it every time. no errors then. i am using 17.10. why won't it remember that /dev/sdb is the backing store.
[13:08] <vimes> I also use Ubuntu 16.04 on my personal computer btw
[13:12] <boboma> my internet connection dies randomly. Wifi is still connected, other devices to the router still got internet. But my PC is not able to ping etc anymore. what's the ubuntu bug-report command for wifi problems?
[13:17] <Jack_Sparrow__> boboma, look u fixes based on your hardware chipset,
[13:17] <auronandace> tincature: support in #ubuntu+1
[13:18] <tincature> auronandace: thank you
[13:18] <Jack_Sparrow__> Use in Terminal:   inxi -Nn | pastebinit     Provide link  -  So We can see what hardware you are working with
[13:19] <Jack_Sparrow__> broadcomm, realtek, atheros etc
[13:19] <tincature> auronandace: i'm dumb, sorry, i'm using 17.04
[13:19] <tincature> hello everyone. in a test environment, i have one iscsi target set up with tgtadm with a backing store of /dev/sdb. the service starts up at boot, but it keeps "forgetting" /dev/sdb as a LUN. i have to re-run the tgtadm command to "export" it every time. no errors then. i am using 17.04. why won't it remember that /dev/sdb is the backing store.
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> tincature  is that a server?
[13:34] <boboma> my hardware is Card-2: Intel Wireless 8260 driver: iwlwifi
[13:34] <boboma> is there something like ubuntu-bug wifi?
[13:35] <tincature> MonkeyDust: a server? it's just a test environment, nothing prod: a few vms on my laptop that i'm learning with
[13:35] <cfhowlett> !bug | boboma nope.   but you can file a bug anyway
[13:36] <boboma> cfhowlett, thanks. But what would be the package that is affected here?
[13:37] <cfhowlett> boboma, sorry, IDK.  if you have not already done so, suggest you go through the wifi troubleshooting lin below
[13:37] <cfhowlett> !wifi
[13:40]  * dan hello
[13:42] <rumi999> greetings
[13:50] <rumi999> hi ubuntu community, am I at right place ?
[13:50] <cfhowlett> ubuntu support rumi999
[13:57] <n0rb0t> Hello, I am having video problems on 16.10 I tried a lot of things but I can't figure it out. When I play a video or I use any browser I have screen lags drops in fps. may it be with chromium or with firefox, with vlc or other player I have an intel HD 520 I installed latest intel video driver via intel-graphics-update-tools but it didn't change
[13:57] <n0rb0t> any help would be appreciated
[13:58] <cfhowlett> what is your video ram, n0rb0t?
[13:58] <n0rb0t> cfhowlett: how can I get it ?
[13:59] <cfhowlett> n0rb0t, inxi -F | pastebinit
[14:00] <cfhowlett> https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-find-linux-vga-video-card-ram/
[14:01] <n0rb0t> cfhowlett: https://pastebin.com/rjb0THtv
[14:02] <boboma> n0rb0t, strange, i have a 520 as well and had no problems with 16.10
[14:02] <boboma> do you have these problems when you run ubuntu from a livecd?
[14:02] <boboma> you might check that first
[14:03] <n0rb0t> I don't think so
[14:03] <n0rb0t> Memory at db000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]  Memory at 90000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
[14:04] <n0rb0t> boboma: you don't have them with the livecd either?
[14:07] <n0rb0t> cfhowlett: any clues
[14:08] <cfhowlett> n0rb0t, boboma suggested you try a liveCD test - I concur
[14:08] <n0rb0t> ok I will do that and come back right after
[14:08] <n0rb0t> thanks
[14:11] <tomreyn> we might also need to ask: did these issues occur before you installed updated intel drivers using intel-graphics-update-tools (which is not part of ubuntu)?
[14:16] <n0rb0t> cfhowlett: I am back
[14:16] <n0rb0t> no problem on live usb
[14:16] <cfhowlett> results??
[14:16] <n0rb0t> video streaming in html5 1080p worked like a charm
[14:16] <cfhowlett> ah!  that suggests you have installed the improper driver.  boboma?  help?
[14:17] <n0rb0t> I had the problem before installing intel-graphics-tool-upgrader and after
[14:17] <mashud> when i shutdown my ubuntu 16.04 lts,dose't shut down.this log out.how to solve this problem.i'm try many trick but do not solve it
[14:18] <n0rb0t> boboma: :)
[14:19] <ikonia> mashud: how are you shutting it down ?
[14:20] <n0rb0t> cfhowlett: I don't know if it has something to do but my resolution is set to 3200x1800 and I use scaled display to be able to read text
[14:21] <cfhowlett> n0rb0t, well, high resolution video would take more processing power.  try a low res version to test
[14:22] <n0rb0t> it's the native resolution of the screen and it worked like a charm on usblive
[14:22] <n0rb0t> cfhowlett: it's the native resolution of the screen and it worked like a charm on usblive
[14:24] <cfhowlett> my ***guess*** is that there's a misconfigured setting.  sorry I can't be more specific but ... try this.  login to your guest user account and play a video.  if it's not frakked for the guest, the issue is in your user settings.
[14:24] <n0rb0t> ok I will try it
[14:24] <n0rb0t> cfhowlett: thanks
[14:24] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[14:25] <Jack_Sparrow__> n0rb0t, How much video ram in your system.?
[14:26] <DexterF> hi
[14:27] <n0rb0t> Jack_Sparrow__:         Memory at db000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]         Memory at 90000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
[14:27] <n0rb0t> Jack_Sparrow__: Dell HD 520 graphics
[14:28] <DexterF> forgot passwd of old machine, unencrypted, physical access, 16.04. tried boot with init=/bin/bash, gives me root shell alright but cannot passwd user, authentication token manipulation error. how do i reset the passwd?
[14:28] <boboma> n0rb0t, well, if it's not happening with the live-cd you might have installed something/modified something. I do not know how to rollback e.g. the intel driver installation. But my suggestion: Before spending hours finding out the problem you might consider reinstallation
[14:29] <n0rb0t> boboma: I can't reinstall it will take very long to recover all my stuff
[14:29] <tomreyn> DexterF: do this before you passwd: mount -o remount,rw /
[14:30] <boboma> n0rb0t, i didn't follow the thread but maybe setting up a new user solves the problem as well. Maybe some user-specific mis-configuration. You might test that as well
[14:30] <n0rb0t> I will try this and come back then (I can pastebin my systemctl startup in case)
[14:30] <n0rb0t> boboma: thanks brb
[14:31] <DexterF> tomreyn, thanks. the things you forget after a while :)
[14:31] <tomreyn> ;-)
[14:32] <composmentis> how do I totally remove a package? I installed Vivaldi Browser but something is wrong in the config. I did sudo purge vivaldi-stable - it runs, but when I re-download and sudo dpkg -i vivaldi.... my settings are still there. I checked in /home/*hidden files* but there's no vivaldi
[14:32] <BluesKaj> co  you have to purge the browser to get rid of the buggy config files
[14:33] <BluesKaj> composmentis,^
[14:34] <composmentis> How do I purge the browser? I did the standard cookie/cache delete. My problem is that the browser settings won't open :p
[14:34] <DexterF> can one revert a fresh installation to OEM setup?
[14:34] <Jack_Sparrow__> !purge
[14:35] <composmentis> Will try now, 1m thanks
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> composmentis  also try this ... sudo apt install aptitude && sudo aptitude purge ~c
[14:37] <ZSky> Hi!
[14:37] <n0rb0t> boboma:
[14:37] <ZSky> my PHP email function mail(...) seems to use: /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i
[14:37] <n0rb0t> boboma: I didn't happen with a new user ...
[14:37] <ZSky> Is this sendmail or postfix or something else?
[14:38] <composmentis> MonkeyDust, ubottu - I ran both of those. I'll try to re-install now & see if it's cleared my session/settings
[14:38] <n0rb0t> boboma: *It* didn't happen with a new user ...
[14:39] <composmentis> My session still persists..
[14:40] <n0rb0t> boboma: I will try to remove the display scale to see if I still get the lags I am using kubuntu's option to scale up the display to have readable text @3200x1800
[14:40] <n0rb0t> boboma: wbrb
[14:45] <n0rb0t_> boboma: I display scaling didn't change anything same problem again ...
[14:45] <n0rb0t_> boboma: display scaling didn't change anything same problem again ...
[14:47] <juanonymous> Off topic, what is the danger of exposing your public ip?
[14:47] <femalemonkeyman> Quite a lot
[14:47] <juanonymous> Aside from getting ddosed?
[14:47] <tomreyn> yes that's offtopic
[14:48] <ikonia> juanonymous: as you said, it's offtopic here
[14:48] <ikonia> try a networking or security channel
[14:48] <n0rb0t_> boboma: any ideas that could help me :) thanks again!
[14:48] <rdh> juanonymous, risk of someone testing our your routers security
[14:48] <juanonymous> People there on security are asses
[14:49] <juanonymous> rdh, is that possible?
[14:49] <cfhowlett> !ot | juanonymous please continue in the other channel.
[14:50] <juanonymous> Alryt sorry
[14:50] <n0rb0t_> boboma: I solved it I reset to default the compositing modules by falling back to opengl
[14:50] <n0rb0t_> boboma: I set tearing prevention to automatic with a normal animation speed and it solved it
[14:51] <n0rb0t_> cfhowlett: fyi :)
[14:51] <n0rb0t_> thanks to both of you !!!
[14:51] <cfhowlett> that is some fine detective work there, n0rb0t_!  good job!
[14:56] <lebensrauser> Narakel!
[14:58] <neutronbomb> try delete partition and have it set up again with livecd
[14:58] <neutronbomb> make sure to back up all files first
[14:59] <n0rb0t> Hi again I have a second problem plugging some usb keys made my whole system lag did you ever encountered such a problem?
[14:59] <neutronbomb> anyone has idea how to add interface with wireshark pm pls ty
[15:01] <n0rb0t> neutronbomb: you run wireshark as root ?
[15:01] <ikonia> neutronbomb: add an interface with wireshark ?
[15:01] <ikonia> wireshark doesn't control the interfaces, it just interacts with them
[15:01] <ikonia> neutronbomb: what exactly are you trying to do
[15:02] <n0rb0t> neutronbomb: tshark which is the cli version of wireshark shoudl give you the same results and let you select your interface
[15:05] <n0rb0t> plugging some usb keys (not all) made my whole system lag did you ever encountered such a problem?
[15:08] <royal_screwup21> Hey all! Just to preface what I'm about to say, this is off-topic but please do bear with me - I'm really in need of some advice. I just wanted to say that sometimes it takes me an embarrassingly long while to express myself clearly. It's like I've got the thought in my head, but fleshing it out in *coherent* terms is a mammoth task all by itself,
[15:08] <royal_screwup21> one that takes more time to accomplish than most other people. And as a student of computer science, I realize this puts me in the backseat straight away. It's embarrassing enough that I don't have the technical expertise to accurately pin-point the subtleties of a problem, but to struggle at attempts at *expressing* the problem itself is... pretty
[15:08] <royal_screwup21>  sad.  What do you guys suggest I do to remedy this?
[15:20] <schahermacher> i have a system crash that i think is a hardware issue
[15:21] <schahermacher> it is happen that system totally freeze, this can happen both during work or idle
[15:22] <thundeer> in gnome, how to i tab to subwindows when using the happy hacking keyboard. apparently im missing that key normally used for sub selecting windows. how do i get around that?
[15:23] <tomreyn> schahermacher: alright, this is ##ubuntu - hardware issues are not ubuntu issues. if you'll chnage your mind and start thinking it's an ubuntu issue, this can be discussed here.
[15:23] <schahermacher> tomreyn, do you think if my machine running ubuntu it is still not an issue? think you being overcritical sir
[15:23] <ioria> schahermacher, i'd check the video drivers, than the ram , then the disk
[15:24] <thundeer> guess its a gnome question really, but maybe some of you guys have an idea to what to do
[15:24] <schahermacher> iora, not the ram or disk definitely
[15:24] <ioria> schahermacher, ok, what video driver in use ?
[15:24] <tomreyn> schahermacher: you said you think it's a hardware (so not software, so not ubuntu) issue, i just commented on it.
[15:25] <thundeer> also.. if anyone have ubuntu running on an imac, which i have, i wonder if someone figured out how to control the brightness of the screen.
[15:25] <hackal> Hi, there I have bunch of random folders in `photos/` folder. I would like to optimize the images by running `jpegoptim --size=500k *.jpg` in each folder. Is there a command which could help me automate this (ie. loop over all the folders and run the command) Thank you
[15:25] <schahermacher> ioria, here is an example of syslog at the timing of the crash https://paste.debian.net/933481/
[15:26] <schahermacher> starting at line 45 iora
[15:27] <atony> hh
[15:28] <ioria> schahermacher, what you mean exactly with 'crash' ?  irresponsive, random logout or reboot ? what ?
[15:28] <schahermacher> ioria i mean system freezing
[15:28] <ioria> schahermacher, have you tried the Guest Account ?
[15:28] <schahermacher> sorry to misspel your nickname in previous message
[15:28] <schahermacher> for what?
[15:29] <thundeer> okay. i guess i could map the super+esc key?? gnome tweak?
[15:29] <ioria> schahermacher, if it's a compiz issue, the guest account its not tied to your personal settings
[15:29] <thundeer> what controls the brightness in Ubuntu?
[15:29] <atony> me too
[15:30] <schahermacher> allright i check and report back, thank you
[15:30] <schahermacher> it will take time i guess
[15:30] <atony> how to control
[15:32] <integrity> ubuntu is a hitler software and mark shuttlerworth is a fucking faggot
[15:32] <integrity> jfyi
[15:33] <thundeer> Hitler could'nt even type
[15:33] <BluesKaj> tell us how you really feel :-)
[15:33] <integrity> how do you know
[15:33] <integrity> i feel cool
[15:33] <integrity> was just testing how long i stay here without ban
[15:33] <integrity> im surprised tbh
[15:34] <integrity> probably a word record
[15:34] <BluesKaj> is that all you want is some attention , them you need a shrink
[15:34] <integrity> there we go lol
[15:34] <BluesKaj> then even
[15:34] <backbox> hi
[15:34] <integrity> i already have a shrink
[15:34] <integrity> hi
[15:35] <thundeer> integrity, update to windows 10! It will give you time to re-think your life
[15:35] <integrity> nah i run freebsd
[15:35] <integrity> and windows 7 on corporate laptop
[15:35] <integrity> they dont seem to be very eager to upgrade
[15:35] <Haugli92> Isnt regular users allowed to change owner of their own folder? (chown)?
[15:35] <integrity> Haugli92: they are
[15:36] <Haugli92> chown: changing group of 'test/': Operation not permitted
[15:36] <integrity> oh owner, no
[15:36] <integrity> sorry
[15:37] <integrity> whois -h <IP_ADDRESS> microsoft.com
[15:37] <integrity> lovely command to try
[15:38] <integrity> http://i.magaimg.net/img/io4.png
[15:38] <integrity> so
[15:39] <integrity> im gonna forward hitler software to ubuntu.com
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow__> Format of command ?	sudo chown -R shannon:shannon /media/UserData
[15:40] <integrity> at hitler.consulting we provide our customers with the final solution to their tech issues.
[15:41] <Haugli92> Anyone know why not regular users isnt allowed to change owner of a folder?
[15:41] <integrity> Haugli92: because it would be a security fuckup
[15:42] <integrity> you people forget to use google and rtfm?
[15:42] <integrity> *forgot
[15:42] <Haugli92> What is google? :D
[15:42] <integrity> yeah you sound like an ubuntu user
[15:42] <integrity> aka moron
[15:42] <integrity> no offense
[15:42] <Haugli92> Forget it then. I did understand now :P
[15:43] <Haugli92> if i make a script to shutdown a server.. change it to owner of root as 777 and ... gogo
[15:43] <Haugli92> :D
[15:44] <integrity> probably not to 777
[15:44] <Haugli92> Or 700 doesnt matter
[15:44] <integrity> because other random user can rewrite it
[15:44] <Haugli92> but i 777 i can run a script owned by root as a regular user
[15:45]  * Bischoop integrity: has low self esteem and has to add +5 to his ego by abusing others LOL
[15:45] <Haugli92> integrity: I was just poiting out the securityrisk :P
[15:45] <integrity> Bischoop: learn how to use /me lol
[15:45] <integrity> u really hurt my feelings
[15:45] <Bischoop> integrity: Who cares LOL
[15:45] <integrity> yeah i def. have low self esteem
[15:46] <integrity> still virgin in 43 too
[15:46] <Bischoop> You've superpower LOL
[15:46] <integrity> fucking a, i am
[15:46] <thundeer> integrity, you are being disrespectful.
[15:46] <integrity> i know
[15:48] <Bischoop> integrity: That why you've to spend so much time online LOL
[15:49] <integrity> how do you know how much time online i spend?
[15:49] <integrity> dude
[15:49] <integrity> but wait, i get it now lol
[15:50] <integrity> these should be "insults"
[15:50] <Combined2857> Cannonical has released a survey for the upcoming Ubuntu with GNOME  https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScjS6ZepQ9wkAbh6Z02Q9Y3M4tsGREOOxYh-D2gN1eOsauvuQ/viewform?c=0&w=1
[16:06] <tgm4883> Combined2857: seems like spam and is off topic for this channel
[16:06] <Combined2857> tgm4883: lol
[16:06] <Combined2857> off topic for this channel ?
[16:06] <tgm4883> Combined2857: yea, this is the support channel
[16:07] <Combined2857> yeah ok
[16:07] <tgm4883> Combined2857: #ubuntu-discuss is probably a better channel for that
[16:08] <uxfi> su/query jaybe
[16:23] <azizLIGHT> i ran out of space on / while doing some apt-get upgrade
[16:23] <azizLIGHT> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24618304/
[16:24] <azizLIGHT> im looking at my / and i dont see what there is i can deleteto creat space besides /tmp
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> azizLIGHT  start wath   sudo apt autoremove
[16:25] <BluesKaj> azizLIGHT, run sudo apt-get autoremove to make more space
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> with*
[16:25] <selckin> azizLIGHT: looks like your /boot not /
[16:26] <azizLIGHT> lsblk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24618355/
[16:26] <selckin> azizLIGHT: kernels got a lot bigger, if its an old install they made the /boot partition too small, you can autoremove to delete the previous kernel and then apt-get upgrade again to continue
[16:28] <azizLIGHT> and what about my broken/interrupted apt-get command
[16:28] <azizLIGHT> and those packages
[16:29] <selckin> it will try again
[16:35] <azizLIGHT> how do i know everything worked? heres the output of autoremove: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24618408/
[16:35] <azizLIGHT> i still see / as 100% used
[16:35] <azizLIGHT> actually 25mb left
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> azizLIGHT  I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15121279/
[16:39] <tgm4883> azizLIGHT: 'df -h'
[16:40] <azizLIGHT> tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24618434/ or http://paste.ubuntu.com/24618435/
[16:41] <azizLIGHT> lsblk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24618355/
[16:41] <azizLIGHT> is that script safe to use
[16:41] <rodrigot23> does ubuntu 17.04 work cooler than ubuntu 16.04
[16:41] <rodrigot23> ?
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> rodrigot23  define 'cooler'
[16:42] <rodrigot23> less cpu not overheating
[16:43] <rodrigot23> moneyrust i dont get it in ubuntu 12.04 i didnt have overheating issues
[16:44] <tgm4883> I'm not aware of any cooling properties of Ubuntu
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> rodrigot23  yes, install thermald, it runs as a daemon
[16:44] <rodrigot23> moneydust is it proven that thermald works?
[16:45] <Jack_Sparrow__> some of the issues were device specific, or bios specific but upgrading to latest kernels help many of os. My issue was dmac and apci
[16:45] <augur97_> you could also try to update to a newer kernel
[16:46] <tgm4883> cleaning out your computer helps too. Lots of dust bunnies can accumulate in 5 years
[16:47] <BluesKaj> rodrigot23, use the tab key to autocomplete users nicks here rather than spell them incorrectly
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> rodrigot23  type 2-3 characters of a name, then hit tab to autocomplete
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> rodrigot23  try it if you want proof
[16:48] <tgm4883> azizLIGHT: 'dpkg -l | grep linux' and 'uname -a'
[16:48] <rodrigot23> MonkeyDust, okay is it proven or not?
[16:49] <azizLIGHT> tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24618485/
[16:49] <azizLIGHT> Linux fractal 3.13.0-116-generic #163-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 31 14:13:22 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> rodrigot23  the devs test everything, before they put in the repos
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> put it in*
[16:50] <rodrigot23> MonkeyDust, did the name highlight?
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> rodrigot23  it did
[16:51] <rodrigot23> MonkeyDust, thank god
[16:52] <rodrigot23> MonkeyDust, are you on the latest ubuntu
[16:52] <azizLIGHT> tgm4883: how about: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-100-generic linux-image-3.13.0-101-generic linux-image-3.13.0-110-generic linux-image-3.13.0-111-generic linux-image-3.13.0-112-generic linux-image-3.13.0-113-generic linux-image-3.13.0-37-generic
[16:52] <tgm4883> azizLIGHT: I'd go through and manually tell apt to remove the old kernels  'linux-headers-3.13.0-100' linux-headers-3.13.0-101      linux-headers-3.13.0-110 linux-headers-3.13.0-111......  yea do that ;)
[16:52] <tgm4883> no need to purge, just remove
[16:52] <azizLIGHT> this would create space on /boot ? but what about /
[16:53] <tgm4883> azizLIGHT: we'll worry about that next
[16:53] <azizLIGHT> should i also tell it the one that i tried to install but havent booted into yet, the one thats new: 119
[16:53] <azizLIGHT> so i can add it in later without errors
[16:53] <tgm4883> no need to
[16:54] <azizLIGHT> hmmmm ok
[16:57] <azizLIGHT> its working on it... its gonna free 1,561mb
[16:57] <azizLIGHT> from /boot i suppose
[16:58] <azizLIGHT> hmm i accidentally removed the new one (not current one haha)
[16:58] <azizLIGHT> i only have one left, the one im booted on
[17:00] <tgm4883> azizLIGHT: ok, so you've got free space on /boot now, but not /
[17:02] <azizLIGHT> well, more space now, than before, on both yes, but still would like to clear more space
[17:03] <tgm4883> azizLIGHT:  'du / | sort -n -r | head -n 20'
[17:05] <azizLIGHT> its going across filesystems
[17:05] <azizLIGHT> du -x
[17:06] <azizLIGHT> i did your cmmand with -x: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24618618/
[17:06] <azizLIGHT> tgm4883: ^^
[17:06] <azizLIGHT> i saw this stuff in ncdu but it all looked important
[17:07] <tgm4883> azizLIGHT: you don't have a super large / to begin with and it's not like logs are taking up a ton of space
[17:07] <tgm4883> azizLIGHT: you'll probably need to uninstall some stuff
[17:08] <azizLIGHT> hmm
[17:08] <azizLIGHT> what about clearing out /tmp
[17:08] <azizLIGHT> therse 1gb in there
[17:09] <tgm4883> azizLIGHT: shouldn't be necessary, that should be tmpfs
[17:09] <azizLIGHT> actually /run is tmpfs
[17:10] <tgm4883> azizLIGHT: /tmp should be as well
[17:11] <Lupus> Who can help me to install libssh-0.1 on my Ubuntu Server 17.04?
[17:11] <jinxi1> hi
[17:12] <jinxi1> how do I troubleshoot the start up time of my applications?
[17:12] <jinxi1> I have ubuntu installed on a SSD and yet Chrome starts in like 3 seconds.
[17:12] <jinxi1> on windows  it is about 1.5s
[17:13] <pavlushka> Lupus: need help still?
[17:14] <Lupus> pavlushka, yes.
[17:16] <Lupus> pavlushka, could you help me?
[17:16] <tgm4883> Lupus: why do you want libssh-0.1?
[17:16] <Lupus> For a penetration test.
[17:17] <Lupus> An executable requires it.
[17:17] <tgm4883> Lupus: isn't 0.1 super old?
[17:18] <Lupus> I think it is the first published version.
[17:18] <tgm4883> seems like you need to find an updated executable...
[17:18] <Lupus> But I have to execute just ./configure, make & make install.
[17:18] <Lupus> To install it.
[17:18] <Lupus> But I encounter an error when I execute the make command.
[17:18] <Lupus> When it has to compile something.
[17:19] <azizLIGHT> jinxi1: allowed chrome to run in background on windows and not in linux?
[17:19] <Lupus> I tried to install it on many operating systems.
[17:19] <azizLIGHT> jinxi1: you may have some chrome app running on boot on windows, and none on linux, even if chrome allowed to run in background... it might not be started in the background
[17:19] <Lupus> tgm4883, can you help me? I have installed the libssh-dev & the libssl-dev.
[17:20] <Lupus> https://www.libssh.org/files/0.1/ Here you can find the archive.
[17:20] <Lupus> libssh-0.1.tgz
[17:20] <pavlushka> Lupus: can you paste the error when you execute the make command ?
[17:21] <Lupus> Okay.
[17:21] <Lupus> Wait, I'll put it on pastebin.
[17:21] <Lupus> Wait a minute.
[17:22] <Lupus> I have to download the archive again.
[17:22] <jinxi1> azizLIGHT: thanks for your answer.
[17:23] <jinxi1> azizLIGHT: maybe you are right. I will check next time I boot into Windows.
[17:23] <jinxi1> azizLIGHT: any way to improve the start up time of chrome on linux?
[17:23] <m5l> Today my dualboot-windows crashed and I lost some files. https://pastebin.com/WgfunrQV Should I be worried about my ssd?
[17:24] <Lupus> https://pastebin.com/Ktcw2E53
[17:24] <Lupus> Okay, there's my error.
[17:25] <Lupus> I have tried to recompile them with -fPIC, but without results.
[17:29] <enoch85> hey guys, I'm having strange issues with kernel panics... I have a server running Nextcloud, and as soon as I activate an app or do anything other than syncing files this happens: http://i.imgur.com/Sf6k4wU.png
[17:29] <ioria> Lupus, are you 32 bit ?
[17:29] <enoch85> I have no clue where to start looking
[17:29] <Lupus> ioria, 64bit.
[17:29] <ioria> Lupus, so
[17:29] <enoch85> I've checked kern.log and dmseg but can't find the full message
[17:30] <Lupus> enoch85, I don't really know what's your issue, but try to reboot the server and try again if you can.
[17:32] <enoch85> Lupus, yes, but I want to solve it for good, I mean I don't want to have to restart a production server everytime someone installs an app
[17:33] <Lupus> enoch85, just try to reboot.
[17:33] <Lupus> ioria, can you help me?
[17:33] <enoch85> Lupus, yes, but that's not solving the main issue, the issue is still there
[17:33] <enoch85> Lupus, if I try to install an app after I rebooted I get kernel panic again
[17:34] <Lupus> enoch85, did you search on google? Maybe someone had your error once.
[17:34] <enoch85> Lupus, yes I did
[17:34] <ioria> Lupus, compile your code using the -mcmodel=large which will  relocate  type to R_X86_64_64 and not (as you see) R_X86_64_PC32
[17:34] <Lupus> ioria, you mean I have to compile those scripts after make?
[17:34] <ioria> Lupus, nope, http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2011/11/11/position-independent-code-pic-in-shared-libraries-on-x64/
[17:35] <Lupus> ioria, I didn't get you. What I really have to do?
[17:36] <ioria> Lupus, you need to change the Makefile (and possibly act on a 32 bit os)
[17:36] <Some_Person> What filesystem is well-supported under both Windows and Linux these days?
[17:36] <ioria> Lupus, btw, too much warnings...
[17:37] <Lupus> ioria, where I have to edit the Makefile? Please, help me! :(
[17:37] <ioria> Lupus, why are doing this, if i may ask ?
[17:38] <Lupus> I have told you that, for a penetration test.
[17:38] <BluesKaj> Some_Person, don't think there's commonly supported filesystem for Windows and Linux
[17:38] <Lupus> I wanna test it on my server.
[17:39] <Lupus> ioria, I can't compile it, because I can't install its library.
[17:39] <ioria> Lupus, yes, too old
[17:39] <Lupus> The make command has a compilation too, and it has an error.
[17:40] <Lupus> So, who can help me?
[17:40] <Lupus> Or on what system I should try?
[17:40] <BluesKaj> Some_Person, however Linux does does support NTFS filesystem, but windows doesn't upport extfs
[17:41] <pavlushka> Lupus: possibly act on a 32 bit os as ioria said
[17:41] <Lupus> Okay.
[17:41] <Lupus> Let's install Ubuntu Server on 32bit.
[17:42] <akik> Some_Person: there are a couple of apps that enable r/w ext3 file system on windows: ext2fsd and fs-driver
[17:43] <pavlushka> BluesKaj: Depends on what kind of support you are expecting from the systems.
[17:43] <BluesKaj> pavlushka, no kidding
[17:44] <Some_Person> akik: But how well does that actually work? Would prefer native support, especially on the Windows side
[17:44] <ioria> Lupus, well, stop, it actually compile on 64 bit :þ
[17:44] <akik> Some_Person: it works but it's not built-in to windows
[17:44] <pavlushka> BluesKaj: you are expecting the systems to run on a common type of partition?
[17:44] <Lupus> ioria, really?
[17:44] <Lupus> It works for you?
[17:45] <Lupus> Lol, I'm downloading the Ubuntu Server 17.04 32bit image now!
[17:45] <ioria> Lupus, yes, this one right ? https://www.libssh.org/files/0.1/ 1.1
[17:45] <Lupus> I know, but I need 0.1.
[17:45] <Lupus> I have tried wtih 1.1.
[17:45] <Lupus> with*
[17:46] <Lupus> 0.1.1*
[17:46] <Some_Person> akik: But how well? I need something that won't bottleneck disk I/O
[17:46] <BluesKaj> Some_Person, Linux supports NTFS especially if it's just used for data storage
[17:46] <ioria> Lupus, libssh-0.1.1.tgz is ok on kenel 4.4 64 bit
[17:46] <akik> Some_Person: i've not ran any benchmarks
[17:46] <Lupus> Yeah, but I can't with it.
[17:47] <Lupus> I will try on 32bit.
[17:47] <psychoticwarrior> hello
[17:48] <psychoticwarrior> hows it going ppl
[17:50] <marquezini> guys good afternon. i have a braswell n3700 processor, dell inspiron 5000. comes with ubuntu 14.04, works well, but i reinstalled the system with ubuntu 16.04 and the fan don't stop spinning very loud, i see the psensor info and the rpm of fan is 0, the processor temperature is 40 C, and the thermald display a bug on status message, how i can fix this issue, anybody know?
[17:53] <Some_Person> What about exFAT?
[17:54] <akik> marnikow: one thing you might want to test/change is the acpi_osi kernel parameter. use this command to get the value for the parameter: "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows" (get the newest version of the output windows versions)
[17:54] <akik> hmm that was for marquezini
[17:55] <akik> marquezini: then edit /etc/default/grub and add the key and value as follows: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="acpi_osi=\"Windows 2009\", then run "sudo update-grub"
[17:56] <akik> marquezini: you need to escape the value like that if there's a space in it GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="acpi_osi=\"Windows 2009\""
[18:02] <marquezini> i need update acpi command of grub boot?
[18:02] <akik> marquezini: the new key/value goes into /etc/default/grub
[18:03] <marquezini> i post the question on ubuntu stackoverflow, i put the output of thermald, see if you can define the error cause
[18:03] <marquezini> https://askubuntu.com/questions/917481/inspiron-5000-n3700-processor-bug-fan-dont-stop-spinning-very-loud
[18:04] <gester> I need some help understanding Disks and SMART tests....I see "old age" and "pre-fail" under "type" in brand new drives
[18:06] <gester> I have just formatted and loaded data to new external drives. I ran the SMART test and see all these labels and am worried
[18:06] <gester> perhaps I am interpreting it wrong?
[18:06] <marquezini> i will try tk akik
[18:07] <fallentree> gester: "old age" attributes mean the normalized value is lowering with age, and "pre-fail" attributes mean they're indicators of failure as the normalized value goes down toward the threshold
[18:08] <malkauns> any idea what causes the massive memory leak in gnome-shell 3.24.0 on Ubuntu 17.04?
[18:08] <gester> @fallentree: can you take a look at the results and help me interpret? I don't know if it means these are all old and ready to fail...or if thats just what kind of test.
[18:08] <gester> Im a super noob
[18:08] <fallentree> gester: this will de-noob you then:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.
[18:09] <gester> thanks...I am loading the screenshots to Imgur...would you take a look for me?
[18:09] <fallentree> gester: if I have to
[18:10] <gester> lol...you dont HAVE to..id just like someone smarter than me to see it
[18:10] <gester> http://imgur.com/a/sw5x9 two different drives
[18:11] <fallentree> gester: I can take a look if you want it, but that won't help you much. you should read that wiki as it explains what individual attributes mean, which ones you should keep an eye on.
[18:11] <fallentree> gester: plus, a disk can fail with zero warning from the SMART attributes.
[18:11] <gester> I am reading it...I just don't understand if the old age and prefail indications in the results are status warnings...as in the disk is in a prefail status etc
[18:12] <gester> or the disk is "old" based on results
[18:12] <fallentree> gester: no, they just describe the kind of attribute, not the state of the disk
[18:12] <gester> ah ok....scared me to see every row as old age or prefail...told you I was a noob
[18:12] <fallentree> and again, the article would explain. you should look at normalized values. the lower they are, the "worse" the situation is.
[18:13] <gester> is there a better way to check HDD health?
[18:13] <mubuntu> hello
[18:13] <mubuntu> !list
[18:15] <frostschutz> gester, the smart values only reflect what the disk itself knows about... run long selftest (reads the entire drive) regularly, if that passes and there are no reallocated/pending/uncorrectable sectors, the drive is likely okay
[18:15] <gester> is a long selftest a day long thing on a 2TB drive over USB 2.0?
[18:15] <fallentree> gester: could be two :)
[18:16] <frostschutz> gester, this test is performed by the drive itself so it should go at the drive's full speed, usb1/2/3 doesn't make a difference for that
[18:16] <gester> yeah it took 48 hours to zero a drive
[18:16] <gester> ah ok...how long do you think a 2tb drive should take for a long test?
[18:16] <gester> 5400rpm seagate external
[18:17] <fallentree> gester: the smartctl -a usually states how long
[18:17] <wishe> Can someone help me fix my sound? I have run alsamixer, checked all the levels, check in pulse audio control and there is sound playing. Speakers work fine but the audio jack for headphones is playing no sound. When i plug my headphones in the dialog comes up for me to choose device, like headset, headphones or whatever. But there is no sound. Anyone know how i can diagnose this?
[18:17] <frostschutz> gester, 384 minutes
[18:17] <gester> long time then...thanks
[18:18] <YankDownUnder> wishe, try: pavucontrol
[18:18] <wishe> i have
[18:18] <wishe> Set it to headphones(plugged in) and no sound comes out
[18:18] <fallentree> gester: Ideally you should look at two things. The reallocated/pending/uncorrectable errors as frostschutz said, and dmesg / logs for any appearance of IO failures, repeats, etc...
[18:19] <gester> im not understanding the "normalized" "threshold" and "worst" colums in the test. The first and last are the same numbers...threshold is usually 0 or a low number
[18:19] <gester> I dont see anything in the wiki page that explains those
[18:19] <fallentree> gester: it does: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.#ATA_S.M.A.R.T._attributes
[18:20] <wishe> It's crazy that people say Ubuntu is more stable than Windows, I have experienced nothing but problems with 16.04. Problems with sound, videocard, desktop stuttering, window manager.
[18:20] <fallentree> gester: basically, raw values can mean anything. eg. "error counts" could be exactly that, or some vendor specific binary format with flags'n all where an apparently large number has nothing to do with actual count of errors
[18:20] <wishe> And I have Win 10 on my home computer, and there has not been one issue
[18:20] <gester> it doesnt say what those three categories mean
[18:21] <wishe> Unfortunately the terminal is shite on windows and i need it for my job
[18:21] <fallentree> gester: so vendors "normalize" them on the scale of 1-255, with lower values meaning "worse"
[18:21] <wishe> But honestly I am very very dissapointed
[18:22] <fallentree> gester: "normalized" is the normalized raw value, like I just explained. "threshold" is a vendor-specific threshold of the "normalized" value below which disk is in failure state.
[18:22] <fallentree> gester: "worst" is the last recorded "worst" normalized value
[18:22] <fallentree> ie. lowest
[18:23] <Lupus> ioria, it worked on 32bit and I compiled that executable file, but it has an error: root@ubuntu:~/libssh-0.1# /usr/sbin/sshd: symbol lookup error: /usr/sbin/sshd: undefined symbol: ssh_getopt.
[18:23] <mubuntu>  /msg alis LIST searchterm
[18:23] <gester> i will give you an example....start/stop count sayes 152 for my drive. Normalized for it is 100...Threshold 0....Worst 100. I don't know how to interpret that as it seems 152 ia bad as its over
[18:23] <wishe> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24619008/ This is the output when i try to restore the ctrl
[18:24] <YankDownUnder> wishe, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[18:25] <ioria> Lupus, ..., not sure what it's missing now
[18:25] <fallentree> gester: it means the disk started or stopped spinning
[18:25] <wishe> YankDownUnder: Seems a bit extreme considering the audio was working fine on friday
[18:25] <Lupus> I have in that script written in C ssh_getopt.
[18:25] <Lupus> I have read the API.txt of libssh-0.1, but that option is correct.
[18:26] <fallentree> the raw count is probably the actual count, ie. 152 times. that's not bad at all. the vendor gives that value a normalized value of 100 which usually means best. over time, it'll go towards 0
[18:26] <AkiSan> If Ubuntu Studio, for whatever reason, is installed on a 32 GB USB 2.0 pen drive, how much time does it take?
[18:27] <AkiSan> If Ubuntu Studio, for whatever reason, is installed on a 32 GB USB 2.0 pen drive, how much time does it take?
[18:27] <gester> I know what it means...I dont know how it correlates to those categories....its higher than normalized and worst...
[18:27] <fallentree> gester: like I explained, the raw count is not on the same scale with normalized
[18:27] <YankDownUnder> wishe, If it was working fine, work backwards through the issues. What was changed and/or installed since the last time it worked. Logically walk through it step by step backwards. And please don't launch blame into the channel and "how much better Windows is" stuff...if you want help, and want to resolve this, stick to the topic and do not "diss" the OS, bro.
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> AkiSan  how much time does it take to do what
[18:28] <fallentree> gester: look, the raw value is vendor specific, so the "normalize" scale is there to put a meaning on the raw value .the higher the normalized, on a scale of 0-255, the "better" the state of it. 100 is some starting point for most values, some start with 200
[18:28] <wishe> YankDownUnder: I cannot work backwards, all i did was put the laptop in standby
[18:29] <AkiSan> I made a bootable USB drive using Ubuntu Studio 16.04 LTS. I am trying to install that on my brand new computer which does not have any any OS installed. It has been 5 hours, the installation is progressing at snails pace. I am wondering, if the installation is happening on the USB drive or the hard disk?
[18:29] <wishe> YankDownUnder: Ofcourse I am annoyed, I am trying to get work done and I cant listen to music because I am running buggy software
[18:29] <wishe> This is not something i caused
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> AkiSan  a normal vanilla installation takes about 20 minutes
[18:30] <Bashing-om> AkiSan: Install should be but a matter of minutes . Are you on a wired connection ?
[18:32] <wishe_> YankDownUnder: I dont know why you are complaining about me talking about faults that exist. I specified the problems and theyre real, it is not some OS comparison
[18:37] <chaoticoz> Hello.
[18:37] <chaoticoz> I am using ubuntu 17.04 on a Thinkpad T430, powertop reports a battery discharge rate of 19.5 Watts, is this normal? too high? what are your experiences?
[18:38] <Ichimusai> chaoticoz: Normal.
[18:39] <iopq> I have a problem running a full screen Wine game in Unity, but it works fine in LXDE
[18:39] <uddane> Has anyone ever gotten Vudu to Go to work under Wine?
[18:40] <iopq> is there a way to just run LXDE in a different virtual monitor while running Unity?
[18:40] <chaoticoz> Thanks Ichimusai.
[18:40] <Ichimusai> chaoticoz: Runnoing a T420s myself, about the same.
[18:40] <chaoticoz> ok good to know.
[18:41] <wishe_> YankDownUnder: After following instructions in your link, the audio jack does not even register inputs anymore
[18:41] <Ichimusai> You can set various performance/powersave things if you have the tools.
[18:41] <chaoticoz> i installed tlp and issued tlp start
[18:41] <chaoticoz> thats all i did atm. anything more i can do?
[18:41] <YankDownUnder> wishe_, Ubuntu's support link, not mine.
[18:42] <Ichimusai> chaoticoz: You can echo 0/1 to turn off/on cores as needed in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/online
[18:43] <wishe_> YankDownUnder: Thats fine
[18:43] <Ichimusai> where cpuN is the core, cpu1, cpu2 cpu3 etc.
[18:43] <Ichimusai> That saves a bit.
[18:43] <YankDownUnder> wishe_, Power off the laptop for 30 seconds. Try again.
[18:43] <wishe_> LOL
[18:43] <Ichimusai> You can use cpufreq-set in order to limit the clock and save power etc.
[18:44] <Ichimusai> And there is a widget for the top bar where you can chose between power save or performance
[18:44] <wishe_> Thanks YankDownUnder
[18:46] <YankDownUnder> wishe_, Last week I got on a train and rode for nearly an hour for the same issue - got to the client's site, powered off the damn laptop, turned it back on - and the sound worked. Paid in full, hour train ride back home. Try everything. Always try everything.
[18:47] <chaoticoz> Ichimusai, i'll have a look at the widget
[18:47] <chaoticoz> thanks alot
[18:47] <enoch85> still nobody that can help me with this? I have googled for like 5 hours now and I can't find what the cause could be: http://i.imgur.com/Sf6k4wU.png
[18:47] <wishe_> YankDownUnder: I dont have time to sit for an hour and wait and see if something works
[18:47] <enoch85> I run a server with Nextcloud and everytime I try to install an app it happens
[18:48] <enoch85> I found this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34834520/kernel-panic-not-syncing-fatal-exception-in-interrupt-in-openstack-vm which is close, but it doesn't say what I should do
[18:48] <YankDownUnder> wishe_, If you don't have time to fix something or figure it out, then it must not be important. Fair enough.
[18:48] <enoch85> I can't find the whole message in any logs either
[18:48] <Ichimusai> enoch85: Not easy when thats all the info.
[18:48] <wishe_> Haha, ok. Please dude, stop! I have a computer to do my work on, not sit and dabble to fix audio and video issues every week
[18:48] <wishe_> I have already spent hours on these issues
[18:49] <enoch85> here is a pretty close google search for it: https://www.google.se/search?q=native_safe_halt+default_idle+arch_cpu_idle+defualt_idle_call+kernel+panic+-+not+syncing%3A+fatal+exception+in+interupt&oq=native_safe_halt+default_idle+arch_cpu_idle+defualt_idle_call+kernel+panic+-+not+syncing%3A+fatal+exception+in+interupt&aqs=chrome..69i57.499j0j7&client=ubuntu&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
[18:49] <wishe_> When it should be working fine without having to do this bullshit
[18:49] <enoch85> Ichimusai, yeah I know... it's a VM and I can't scroll in that window ;/
[18:49] <Ichimusai> enoch85: It's likely you have a trashed file system. Mount the virtual disks in another machine, run whatever checks you need to repair, then try again.
[18:50] <Ichimusai> enoch85: Might have been powered down without unmounting or VM has suffered a stop issue.
[18:50] <YankDownUnder> wishe_, Your computer, your issue. Happy Monday.
[18:50] <Ichimusai> enoch85: But since most VMs have the hard drives as files anyways you can mount them from another VM and do the file system checks.
[18:51] <enoch85> Ichimusai, the strange thing is that it's exaclty the same beahviour on another VM I installed after this one as well... I run a total of 16 VMs and the last two I created have this issue
[18:51] <enoch85> Ichimusai, the dofference is that I run HWE kernels from start, don't know if that could be it?
[18:51] <enoch85> difference*
[18:52] <Ichimusai> enoch85: Try to repair the disks first. It's a common issue if the booting kernel can't read the modules.
[18:52] <tomreyn> enoch85: what's the host OS and version, what's the guest OS and version, which virtualization and version, which hardware? where (host, guest) does nextcloud run?
[18:53] <iopq> when I switch to tty2 and do startlxde it says cannot open display
[18:54] <enoch85> Ichimusai, host OS: ESXi 6.5, Guest OS: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (4.8 HWE) Virtualization version (13), Hardware is 64 GB ECC with dual Xeon e5 2670
[18:54] <hopus> somehow I deleted the hidden lost+found directory from an external drive. I am finding confusing conflicts about if its needed. It seems to be a root only permission directory and I am not sure how I deleted it since I tried and failed on a second drive
[18:54] <enoch85> Ichimusai, nextcloud runs on the Ubuntu server guest
[18:54] <akik> hopus: you can just recreate it
[18:54] <hopus> I have seen conflicing commands as to how to restore it...and some links saying its very important for possible corruption
[18:55] <enoch85> Ichimusai, when you say repair the disks, how do you mean specifically? just create another machine and import the disks, or what?
[18:55] <enoch85> Ichimusai, never done that before
[18:55] <hopus> akik do I have to do it a special way? I tried mklost+found like I found on one link and it just made a normal directory
[18:55] <hopus> how do I do it properly so its the hidden, root, preallocated directory?
[18:55] <akik> hopus: it is a normal directory
[18:56] <ikonia> hopus: it will re-create if it's needed
[18:56] <hopus> well I mean when the system makes it its hidden, and root only...and also apparently has some preallocated blocks...when I made it manually I just made a plan old directory
[18:56] <hopus> ikonia i read fsck will recreate it but it didn't
[18:56] <ikonia> don't make it manually
[18:56] <Ichimusai> hopus: lost+found do have special properties in some file systems. It is automatically recreated properly if you run fsck on the volume so that's the proper way of handling that.
[18:56] <mubuntu> ciao
[18:56] <mubuntu> !list
[18:56] <ikonia> if the system needs to make it, it will make it
[18:56] <akik> hopus: it is not "hidden"
[18:56] <ikonia> if it doesn't it won't
[18:57] <mubuntu> hello
[18:57] <hopus> its hidden and with root only permissions on my drives
[18:57] <mubuntu> !list
[18:57] <hopus> @Ichimusai how do I do that properly? I tried running fsck and had issues
[18:57] <hopus> im not very skilled at this stuff
[18:58] <tomreyn> enoch85: why the hwe kernel? is that known to work in this version of esxi? the vmware proprietary network driver you are using, vmxnet, is apparently involved in the kernel panic (base don the screenshot you posted). have you verified that it is compatible with the HWE kernel?
[18:58] <ikonia> hopus: don't worry about it, let the system deal with it, if it needs it, it will make it
[18:58] <Ichimusai> hopus: You need to run fsck with write permisson and that means fs needs to be offline, so if its the root fs you need to do it from say a rescue CD/pendrive.
[18:58] <hopus> ikonia I see some results saying this...others sayinf you need it
[18:58] <akik> hopus: sudo mkdir lost+found; sudo chmod 700 lost+found
[18:59] <hopus> ichimusai its an external HDD...not system drive
[18:59] <ikonia> hopus: I'm telling you,
[18:59] <ikonia> hopus: don't worry about it, if it's needed the system will create it, move on, get on with your life instead of worrying about it
[19:00] <Ichimusai> hopus: Fine. It should be ok with or without it but e2fsck for example will ask to recreate it if its missing.
[19:00] <hopus> ikonia the problem is you are telling me this...other places say different...I dont know who to believe so I would rather have it restored jusit in case
[19:00] <Lupus> !ro
[19:00] <Lupus> !en
[19:00] <ikonia> hopus: so why are you asking then
[19:01] <Ichimusai> (Very old systems required the lost+found to be attached to inode #2 but that is no longer required, but in those days the file system had to be recreated in case the lost+found was unlinked...)
[19:01] <ikonia> hopus: as if I tell you this, you'll just say " someone tell me different" if someone tells you different, I'll say "this is the case" what do you want from this channel ?
[19:01] <hopus> ikonia people even in here are giving different asnwers
[19:01] <tomreyn> enoch85: you're apparently not around, so i'll be afk for now, too.
[19:01] <ikonia> hopus: what do you want from this channel ?
[19:01] <hopus> so dont be offended or make it about ego please
[19:01] <hopus> ikonia I am talking to others now ok? i heard your view
[19:01] <centaur5> The network manager in 17.04 doesn't let you set a search domain for openvpn. Any solution for this?
[19:01] <enoch85> tomreyn, I am
[19:01] <ikonia> hopus: I'm not offended and it's not about ego, but how do you expect to use the channel
[19:02] <hopus> when members of a channel give differernt asnwers I have to choose one
[19:02] <enoch85> tomreyn, sorry, was off
[19:02] <hopus> so lets you and I drop it
[19:02] <ikonia> hopus: right and it's just going around in a loop
[19:02] <enoch85> tomreyn, no I have not checked that it's compatible
[19:02] <ikonia> "I see different views" - pick one
[19:02] <Ichimusai> hopus: Ubuntu also has a command "mklost+found" for this purpose.
[19:02] <tomreyn> enoch85: okay, well do so then, or use the LTE kernel.
[19:03] <hopus> @Ichimusai can you help me run the e2fsck? how do I do that specifically
[19:03] <enoch85> tomreyn, remounting the drives as we speak to a new machine
[19:03] <enoch85> will test if that helped
[19:03] <tomreyn> enoch85: i doubt it, i don't see how thats related.
[19:03] <Ichimusai> hopus: Only run the proper fsck for the file system you have.
[19:03] <enoch85> don't really know what Ichimusai meant by repairing, the guest os file system or the vmdks itself?
[19:03] <thomas_> is it possible to completely disable my second ssd in the thinkpad ultrabay?
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> thomas_: why would you do that?
[19:04] <Ichimusai> enoch85: You should repair the /boot and root file systems of the VM exhibiting the behavior you described.
[19:04] <hopus> @Ichimusai I dont know what that proper one is...how do I find out and run it? I have an external Ext4/LUKS drive I am workig with
[19:04] <thomas_> lotuspsychje, i have two ssds in my thinkpad, one with ubuntu, the second with win 10 and os x
[19:04] <enoch85> Ichimusai, ok so on the linux guest then...
[19:05] <enoch85> Ichimusai, do you have a command in hand?
[19:05] <thomas_> i am mostly running ubuntu, and when doing so i dont need the second hard drive and i am trying to save battery
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> thomas_: okay, and you want to disable what for wich reason?
[19:05] <thomas_> disable second hard disk for battery, lotuspsychje
[19:05] <mubuntu> hello
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> thomas_: if you dont gonna use hardware, plug it out physically?
[19:05] <Ichimusai> enoch85: If its an ext4 file system run fsck.ext4 -vy /dev/xxx for it
[19:05] <mubuntu> !list
[19:05] <Ichimusai> enoch85: Similar for other fs
[19:06] <enoch85> Ichimusai, thanks
[19:06] <enoch85> will try
[19:06] <ikonia> mubuntu: you've been told - no warez here
[19:06] <ikonia> mubuntu: please stop trying
[19:06] <Ichimusai> enoch85: Remember the fs should NOT be mounted when you do this.
[19:06] <tomreyn> mubuntu: why do you keep using !list?
[19:06] <enoch85> Ichimusai, it's LVM ext4
[19:06] <thomas_> lotuspsychje, well, i sometimes have to use windows throughout the day, then i wouldn't want to search my second ssd :)
[19:07] <Ichimusai> enoch85: LVM is underlying the file system so focus on the file system first.
[19:07] <Ichimusai> If the LVM maps are corrupted you are better of recreating the whole thing from scratch and installing your backup.,
[19:07] <tgm4883> thomas_: it's an SSD, it shouldn't be pulling very much power
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> thomas_: i dont think your gonna save much energy by disabling ssd2
[19:07] <hr304vdohcrst> hey
[19:08] <mocxz> hello
[19:08] <YankDownUnder> mubuntu, Se hai bisogno di essere nel canale italiano, utilizza # ubuntu-it -> altrimenti, puoi essere bandito da questo canale.
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> mocxz: welcome, what can we do for you?
[19:09] <thomas_> tgm4883, lotuspsychje, every % helps, unplugging the drive seems to save .5 watts, according to powertop
[19:11] <hopus> @Ichimusai can you help me run the proper fsck? I dont know what I am doing
[19:12] <tgm4883> thomas_: then unplug the SSD
[19:12] <enoch85> Ichimusai, it says /dev/mapper/fsgo--vg-root: clean, 193680/19505152 files, 37370167/77990912 blocks
[19:12] <thomas_> tgm4883, so it is not possible by software?
[19:12] <enoch85> so it's clean then?
[19:12] <enoch85> not corrupt?
[19:13] <tgm4883> thomas_: no, that doesn't even make sense
[19:14] <thomas_> tgm4883, why doesn't it make sense? i thought it could maybe be possible, just like disabling wifi
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> thomas_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/improve-battery-life-linux
[19:14] <enoch85> Ichimusai, I still get kernel panics after running that command
[19:15] <akik> thomas_: udisksctl has a power-off sub-command. haven't tested it ever
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> !info laptop-mode-tools | thomas_
[19:16] <hopus> can someone help me with fsck on an ext4/luks external HDD?
[19:16] <hopus> I am doing it wrong
[19:17] <tgm4883> thomas_: because when you disable wifi, the wifi card is still powered. It's just not using extra power to scan/tx/rx. The reason that doesn't translate to your drive is because you have an SSD and you'll still have to have it powered. If you have a HDD then it would make sense to spin the drive down, but you dont
[19:17] <akik> hopus: sudo fsck.ext4 -vy /dev/mapper/something when the luks device is not mounted
[19:17] <thomas_> akik, i tried it: https://pastebin.com/vLpBhVbb
[19:17] <enoch85> Ichimusai, tomreyn will try to downgrade kernel
[19:18] <mubuntu> hello
[19:18] <mubuntu> !list
[19:18] <thomas_> lotuspsychje, installing laptop-mode-tools automatically removes tlp, is that right?
[19:18] <mubuntu>  /msg ubottu !bot
[19:19] <hopus> thanks akik..trying it
[19:19] <akik> thomas_: ah ok it is for usb devices only?
[19:19] <thomas_> apparently
[19:20] <hopus> akik I got this : toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:~$ sudo fsck.ext4 -vy /dev/mapper/luks-350be4ac-bd95-4c4c-b4d9-4251446a86d0 e2fsck 1.42.13 (17-May-2015) fsck.ext4: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/mapper/luks-350be4ac-bd95-4c4c-b4d9-4251446a86d0 Possibly non-existent device?
[19:20] <hopus> disks
[19:21] <hopus> I copied the luks name from fdisk
[19:21] <akik> hopus: do you have sdxn_crypt in /dev/mapper?
[19:21] <hopus> I dont know what you mean sorry
[19:22] <hopus> I am literally just copying and pasting and dont understand this
[19:22] <akik> hopus: you need to run the fsck on one of the things under /dev/mapper
[19:22] <ioria> hopus,  boot a livecd; sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdax  sdax_crypt; then sudo fsck -f /dev/mapperwhatever-vg-root
[19:23] <hopus> ioria why do I need to do that? its an external disk not a system disk
[19:23] <ioria> hopus,  ok
[19:24] <hopus> akik I am brand new...I dont understand I am sorry. I plugged the drive in...its unmounted...I found the luks ID from fdisk and put it with your command
[19:24] <hopus> can you tell me exactly what I need to do?
[19:24] <hopus> step by step
[19:26] <enoch85> Ichimusai, tomreyn yup, it was the kernels...
[19:27] <enoch85> downgrade soled the problem
[19:27] <enoch85> solved*
[19:27] <hopus> Ok I made a typo and ran the fsck ..it says drive clean...but it didnt restore the lost+found as everyone and everything online said it would
[19:27] <enoch85> finally!
[19:28] <hopus> its so frsutrating....people say different things...nothing works as tutorials say...not sure how I am ever going to be competent at linux when I cant even get the expected results
[19:28] <hopus> based on instructions
[19:30] <akik> hopus: sudo mkdir lost+found; sudo chmod 700 lost+found
[19:31] <YankDownUnder> hopus, Patience. Respond, don't react. As well, double/triple check "tutorials" and other "how to's" - make sure things reflect exactly what you're working ON and WITH. Reading information about a different OS version and trying to apply it will not usually work well. "Too many cooks in the kitchen will spoil the soup" - listen to one person at a time...
[19:32] <akik> hopus: and ubuntu is changing from release to release
[19:32] <hopus> Ive tried...but just like now things arent working...people get irritated with you...give conflicting advice then take it personally
[19:33] <hopus> i can follow directions...but when the directions dont work I have no idea what to do
[19:33] <hopus> and every time I see direcitons I can find another link saying don't do that thing...I dont know who to trust
[19:33] <YankDownUnder> hopus, Take a deep breathe, chill for a second, then "start from the top"...and do NOT take anything personally...it's a pointless operation and a waste of energy. :)
[19:34] <hopus> ive tried 3 ways now and still dont have the directory back as it was
[19:34] <akik> :)
[19:35] <Bashing-om> hopus: Consider, there are literally millions of programmers pouring over this code base continuously . Makes for a fast evolving system .
[19:36] <abdullah> Hello
[19:38] <Ichimusai> hopus: I just tested it on a trial volume here and it did offer to recreated the lost+found for me. Not sure why you had no such luck.
[19:40] <hopus> well this is what I mean...i did exactly as told...different outcome
[19:42] <YankDownUnder> hopus, Since I wasn't necessarily "listening" to your "issue" - what are you doing - just formatting a drive? Or something else...?
[19:42] <hopus> i formatted a drive to ext4/luks...i saw this lost+found directory and like a moron deleted it...not sure how I was able to now as I tried it on a second drive before I realized I shouldnt do this...and it wouldnt allow deletion
[19:43] <ioria> man  mklost+found
[19:43] <hopus> so I was trying to restore it to the first drive...people say rinning fsck should restore it but it doesnt. The commands I can find to restore it dont restore it as before just create a normal directory
[19:43] <YankDownUnder> hopus, Er...yeah...not 'sposed to do that...(the power of "sudo"! - dangerous, that...)
[19:43] <hopus> well now I cant get it back
[19:44] <ioria> man  mklost+found
[19:44] <leftyfb> hopus: is the drive currently mounted?
[19:44] <hopus> no...plugged in but not mounted
[19:44] <leftyfb> hopus: do you know how to mount it
[19:44] <leftyfb> ?
[19:45] <hopus> yes
[19:45] <leftyfb> hopus: ok, please do that now
[19:46] <hopus> ok unlock the luks and mount right?
[19:46] <leftyfb> hopus: correct
[19:46] <hopus> it has two steps when encrypted
[19:46] <hopus> ok
[19:46] <hopus> done
[19:46] <leftyfb> hopus: ok, cd into where you mounted it
[19:47] <hopus> ok
[19:47] <leftyfb> hopus: sudo mklost+found
[19:48] <leftyfb> hopus: did that work?
[19:48] <hopus> yes finally thank you...when I tried that command before I must have done it wrong
[19:48] <hopus> it just put a normal directory...not the root only one last time
[19:49] <leftyfb> that's fine
[19:49] <leftyfb> it'll work
[19:49] <hopus> did the sudo make it root only? maybe I didnt use sudo
[19:49] <leftyfb> remove it and try again if you like
[19:50] <hopus> i dont want to mess with it atm....knowing my luck it will bork again...thank you for helping
[19:50] <leftyfb> np
[19:57] <thyriaen> id like to take a look at a graph of the top 10 distributions ( from distrowatch for example ) and see their development over time - i cannot find it on their webpage and all the graphs floating around in the web arae outdated - is there a place where those are generated ?
[20:01] <p4t> Hello guys, i've a question: i'm tryin to change the brightness of my laptop (lubuntu 17.04) but when i try doing it with function button on keyboard, the laptop screen become total black. Britghness changes because on the other VGA screen i see that it change, but i cannot understand why the main screen became black
[20:13] <ducasse> thyriaen: try ##linux?
[20:18] <hank_> yo what's up everyone?
[20:19] <vanderson> Hi
[20:19] <hank_> Hi, how's your Sunday?
[20:20]  * YankDownUnder looks at the clock and notices it's slightly more Monday than Sunday
[20:20] <hank_> Aussie! nice.
[20:21] <vanderson> Here in Brazil it's sunday
[20:21] <YankDownUnder> Domingo en Brasil...si...
[20:21] <hank_> i'm in canada
[20:21] <YankDownUnder> OMG, Canada is in Brazil now? Far out...things change...wow...
[20:22] <hank_> its fake news lol
[20:22] <YankDownUnder> hank_, "Fake News" - you mean "US News" when you say that, right? Hmm...
[20:23] <hank_> msm news.. we have fake news in canada too
[20:23] <YankDownUnder> hank_, Hehehehe...like "Maple Leafs win!" - that kinda fake news? ;)
[20:24] <hank_> yep! actually i'm just watching the ottawa senators getting their butts kicked by the pens!  ha ha
[20:24] <YankDownUnder> hank_, :)
[20:25] <YankDownUnder> ...meanwhile, back at the ranch...
[20:25] <vanderson> Here in Brazil the president just screw up the country . lol
[20:25] <hank_> i thought she got impeached like six months ago???
[20:26]  * oerheks wonders how this conversation is related to support
[20:26] <YankDownUnder> Curiouser and curiouser...
[20:26] <hank_> oh sorry
[20:27] <vanderson> Yes, and his vice president is about to be impeach too.
[20:27] <vanderson> this country is a mess
[20:28] <oerheks> !ot
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> ok guys, move the conversation to -offtopic
[20:28] <vanderson> sorry
[20:34] <YankDownUnder> ...frustration...trying to get my head around WHY in the "Ubuntu-Gnome 16.04.2" the GTK themes aren't showing/displaying the same as in "Ubuntu 16.04.02"...errrr...
[20:41] <supercom64> Slightly off topic, but anyone here experienced in building computers? I was thinking about building a new Ubuntu machine.
[20:41] <YankDownUnder> supercom64, Get parts that are compatible.
[20:42] <Bischoop> supercom64: sure but were not thinking about compatibility with Linux, just lucily everything went right long time ago :-)
[20:42] <supercom64> @YankDownUnder: Ya, that would save me a lot of headaches for sure. Do you know if variable torque screwdrivers are worth while? I mean in general for working with electronics?
[20:43] <oerheks> supercom64, only if you want to open your HDD :-D
[20:43] <Bischoop> supercom64: now you giving strange question not related even with Linux
[20:43] <genii> supercom64: Maybe ask in ##hardware or ##electronics
[20:43] <supercom64> lol, ya probably.
[20:43]  * Bischoop says listen to genii
[20:43] <supercom64> But yes, I wanna get linux compatable hardware for sure.
[20:44] <Bischoop> Just do it supercom64
[20:44] <Bischoop> That's good
[20:44] <YankDownUnder> supercom64, No, not really...and like oerheks said, unless you're going to perform surgery on HDD's...nah...pointless. One thing I always do - with either servers or workstations - the parts I buy are at least 1 year on the market - so they've generally got really stable drivers for devices...something to consider...
[20:44] <supercom64> Ah thats good advice.
[20:45] <supercom64> I guess you can say, it's like Chess. You always let the pawns go first.
[21:13] <Funky10B> hey guys......i need some help. I have a system set up now with Windows 10 CE that is installed on a M2 ssd card.... then i have a raid10 with 10T and another ssd with 120g of unallocated space... i need help installing Ubuntu on the ssd and not touch my raid or main os......and be able to dual boot ...anyone up for the challenge?
[21:13] <Funky10B> the unallocated ssd 120 that is
[21:14] <Funky10B> humm
[21:14] <Funky10B> lol i post that and see everyone log off .....funny
[21:15] <YankDownUnder> Funky10B, And I'm absolutely positively sure you've searched through the forums and wikis pertaining to this "setup", yersh, hmm?
[21:15] <Funky10B> yes
[21:15] <Funky10B> in fact i did
[21:16] <YankDownUnder> ...hence my statement, Funky10B my friend...yersh...complex this is, for the feint of heart this is not... :)
[21:16] <Funky10B> and i tried.......but see.....i have my raid and windows set up exaclty how i want minus the install of ubunta and am not skilled in this type of install..worried that i will mess up
[21:16] <Funky10B> u
[21:16] <Funky10B> just would like someone to hold my hadn
[21:16] <Funky10B> hand
[21:17] <YankDownUnder> Funky10B, Have you mucked about with a LiveUSB to see what the options are? Cuz in that instance, with the LiveUSB...you can "start" the installation without actually doing anything...know what I mean jellybean?
[21:17] <Funky10B> nope
[21:19] <ducasse> Funky10B: actually, as long as you just install ubuntu on the ssd, install grub to the same ssd and set your bios to boot from it, there should be no special magic to this setup.
[21:19] <YankDownUnder> Funky10B, In booting a LiveUSB (of preferably an LTS release - like 16.04) - you can boot into the "live desktop" and suss out things - like fire up gparted and view the current disk "layout" - and even go so far as to START the installation and suss out what the "partitioning" is suggested to be...all without actually causing "damage" to the system - initiating a change that would fry your setup, hmm...
[21:20] <Funky10B> i tried......to install...and got the usb bootable for ubuntu and then when it booted into usb i unconnected my m2 card to preevent any mistakes....so only the ssd 120g was hooked up...went through the set up...looked like  it was working....rebooted and  it wenty right to bios....there was no bootable drive.....so pluged back in my M2 card and went back into windows....looked at the 120g ssd and there is no bootable partion
[21:20] <Funky10B> so lost
[21:22] <Funky10B> yank......can u walk me through this:?
[21:23] <Funky10B> install grub?>
[21:23] <ducasse> Funky10B: i assume you're using uefi boot? you either install grub to your current efi partition or create a new one on the ssd - the exact behavior depends on your firmware
[21:23] <Funky10B> yes
[21:24] <Bashing-om> Funky10B: Ro be clear - the 120G SSD is stand alone and raid is not a part of it ?
[21:24] <Funky10B> stand alone
[21:24] <Funky10B> i unhooked my raid drives and set the bios top ahci
[21:24] <Funky10B> or achi whatever
[21:25] <Funky10B> duh AHCI
[21:26] <Funky10B> SO I wiped the ssd to unallocated space......
[21:26] <Funky10B> and only have the ssd , then m2 card has windows on it.....and usb with ubuntu install on it
[21:27] <Funky10B> i dont want to touch the m2 card.....i just want ubuntu installed on the ssd and be able to dual boot
[21:27] <Funky10B> help?
[21:28] <Funky10B> please?
[21:29] <Jacksonville> Hey guys
[21:29] <Funky10B> hello
[21:29] <Funky10B> hey guys......i need some help. I have a system set up now with Windows 10 CE that is installed on a M2 ssd card.... then i have a raid10 with 10T and another ssd with 120g of unallocated space... i need help installing Ubuntu on the ssd and not touch my raid or main os......and be able to dual boot ...anyone up for the challenge?
[21:30] <Jacksonville> I would like to save some pdf files to a USB drive. I am running Ubuntu from Virtual Box on a win 10 os. I am struggling figuring out how to mount the usb to I can save to it
[21:30] <faugusztin> Funky10B: what is Windows 10 CE
[21:30] <Funky10B> windows 10 creators edition
[21:30] <Bashing-om> Funky10B: I am not EFI qualified, but - in this instance, is raid data embedded onto this SSD causing a install issue ? - this should be straight forward !
[21:31] <Funky10B> forget the raid......i unhooked my raid drives and will hook them back up after i get this installed
[21:31] <Funky10B> right click on usb and hit mount
[21:32] <Funky10B> wow......i was told someone surly would help me here.......sigh
[21:33] <Bashing-om> Funky10B: ' sudo wipefs /dev/sdX ' to make sure there is no raid meta data on the SSD ( windows quick start ! )
[21:33] <erick> hola
[21:33] <erick> donde está la gente chongueraaaa
[21:33] <Funky10B> there was never a raid setup on the ssd
[21:33] <Bashing-om> !es | erick
[21:34] <Funky10B> english
[21:34] <AlkindiX> English pleaae 😂
[21:34] <erick> I
[21:34] <erick> No problem
[21:34] <erick> hello people
[21:35] <Funky10B> bashing-om no clue what you just said..can u please put that in english?>
[21:35] <erick> esquiusmi?
[21:35] <erick> :v
[21:35] <Funky10B> sudo wipefs /dev/sdx?
[21:36] <Funky10B> so........anyone? help?
[21:36] <Bashing-om> Funky10B: Backing up here . this SSD is a new install and Windows nor raid have ever touched it ?  If true then my above does not apply .
[21:36] <Funky10B> or are we just gonna give me one line suggestions?
[21:37] <Funky10B> ok before i started this attempt
[21:37] <faugusztin> https://www.asus.com/us/Commercial-Servers-Workstations/P10S-E-4L/ o_O wut
[21:37] <AlkindiX> sudo shred -v /dev/sdX is a better option
[21:37] <Bashing-om> Funky10B: There is a reason why a simple install failed . Now we need to find that reason . simple install .
[21:38] <erick> guats?
[21:38] <Funky10B> i had just windows 10ce clean install..with a raid 0 and raid 10 set up with the OS on the m2 card and the raids set up on 4 wd 4t drives and the raid 0 was on 2 ssds.
[21:38] <Funky10B> BUT
[21:40] <Funky10B> I put in a new SSD that had never been in raid...and set the bios to ahci ( it was in raid) then booted from usb with ubunta and when in bios unhooked the m2 card.....so in the end...i only had the ssd unallocated space and usb that were attached to ssytem
[21:40] <Funky10B> ubuntu
[21:41] <Funky10B> again.....i unhooked all the raid drives and turned off secure boot
[21:41] <AlkindiX> Funky10B: did you setup the raid in the windows or in Ubuntu?