[01:00] <bobby_> Is it just me, or is the latest build of FF3.7a5pre not loading?
[01:00] <micahg> bobby_: not just you, hopefully will be fixed tonight :)
[01:00] <ddecator> bobby_: not just you
[01:00] <ddecator> micahg: :D
[01:00] <bobby_> Okay, just checking :s
[01:00] <ddecator> i've been waiting to have my profile back..
[01:00] <bobby_> Stuck with Namoroka 3.6.6 :s
[01:00] <ddecator> exactly :p
[01:01] <bobby_> Flash on 3.6.6 is so pitiful... Doesn't even play :(
[01:01]  * micahg has to fix the FTBFS though otherwise no build tonight
[01:01] <micahg> bobby_: that's a bug :)
[01:01] <ddecator> bobby_: plays for me
[01:01] <bobby_> Yeah, I figured
[01:01] <bobby_> Well, on the bright side, hopefully the Powered by Ubuntu stickers for my laptop came today, not sure yet. going to check the mail now
[01:02] <bobby_> kind of late I know :P
[01:02] <ddecator> i keep debating whether or not i want to order those..
[01:03] <bobby_> They're freeeeeeeeeeeeee!
[01:03] <bobby_> And the Windows Vista sticker is ugly
[01:03] <bobby_> Anybody else think the new iPhone 4G (white version) is ugly or is it me?
[01:04] <bobby_> All white really Apple?
[01:04] <bobby_> I'm getting the EVO and it'll pwn the iPhone 4 :)
[01:04] <ddecator> er, no offense, but that's getting off-topic for the channel :)
[01:04] <bobby_> Okay, how about this: Firefox for android :D?
[01:05] <ddecator> haha, does make me wish i had an android phone
[01:05] <ddecator> but i like my crackberry
[01:05] <bobby_> Well, at least I wish there was FF for android
[01:05] <ddecator> it's in alpha
[01:05] <bobby_> Really? I was just taking a shot in the dark there, I didn't know it was acutally in dev!
[01:06] <ddecator> yup :)
[01:06] <bobby_> Fennec! SICK!
[01:06] <bobby_> Now I really can't wait to get my EVO!!!!
[01:06] <micahg> we have fennec in Lucid :)
[01:07] <ddecator> not sure how stable fennec is on android, but it's getting better from what i've heard
[01:08] <bobby_> Pre-Alphas, or anything with "Alpha" in it, is usually un-stable
[01:08] <bobby_> Why I'm not trying Maverick until Alpha 2 or 3
[01:09] <ddecator> heh, FF 3.7 is testament to that :p
[01:10] <micahg> ddecator: you're trying the dailies, I think the alpha releases are fairly stable
[01:10] <bobby_> Well, until that loading bug is fixed
[01:10] <bobby_> But, otherwise, it has actually been surprisingly stable
[01:10] <micahg> we'll be having pre-release milestone PPAs at some point
[01:11] <bobby_> Yeah, I know :)
[01:15] <ddecator> micahg: true :p
[06:35] <ddecator> huh, a patch isn't working with xr1.9.3
[06:37] <ddecator> i'm tempted to pull it and try to figure it out, but i've never worked with xr and i'm kind of tired so i don't think that'd work too well..
[09:01] <BUGabundo_remote> yes mummy,I won't dance in the rain!
[09:59] <BUGabundo_remote> cwillu: I've read many, but none like this one http://qdb.us/302272
[10:41] <fta2> jdstrand, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/5.0.375.70~r48679-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>/
[13:22] <mdeslaur> fta: is the seccomp sandbox working in chromium? is that the one we use? is it ready?
[13:23] <fta2> mdeslaur, not yet, we just have the suid-sandbox
[13:24] <mdeslaur> fta2: is there an eta on when it will be production-ready?
[13:26] <fta2> mdeslaur, not sure. see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/577919/comments/4
[13:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 577919 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "chromium-browser can't open when the guest account is activated (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,New]
[13:28] <fta2> and http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=36133
[13:29] <fta2> mdeslaur, ^^
[13:30] <mdeslaur> fta2: oh, thanks for that tracker bug
[13:30] <mdeslaur> fta2: yeah, looks like it needs more work
[13:30] <fta2> mdeslaur, btw, the security update for lucid is ready: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/5.0.375.70~r48679-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>/
[13:32] <mdeslaur> fta2: oh, good...I'll build it now
[13:41]  * gnomefreak not too bright
[13:42] <gnomefreak> i spend ~1 hour trying to figure out why i dont have sound. my speakers were off
[13:46] <gnomefreak> micahg: did you hear that ff3.7 was broken?
[13:46] <micahg> gnomefreak: yeah
[13:47] <gnomefreak> micahg: ok
[13:47] <micahg> gnomefreak: needs patch rebasing on xul193 and ff37, will try to get to today
[13:48] <fta2> *sigh*, we're getting gyp from debian
[13:48] <gnomefreak> micahg: cool. i dont use it as often as i should,
[13:48] <micahg> fta2: is there a problem with that?
[13:49] <fta2> micahg, could be. if they're ahead, it could lead to unbuildable chromium
[13:50] <micahg> fta2: k, well, it would only come in the devel release, so we could always downgrade if need be if that's the only issue
[13:50]  * micahg wonders about other rdepends
[13:51] <fta2> micahg, i'm now aligning gyp on chromium, because quite often, newer gyps broke ch
[13:52] <micahg> fta2: well, if it's manual, would you keep it up to date?  (maybe they'll blacklist the autosync)
[13:53] <fta2> micahg, i thought it was blacklisted, the codecs too. apparently not
[13:54]  * micahg goes to check
[13:54] <fta2> >>> pkg=a.getPublishedSources(source_name='gyp', exact_match=True, status='Published')
[13:54] <fta2> >>> pkg[0].source_package_version
[13:54] <fta2> u'0.1~svn824-1'
[13:54] <fta2> >>> pkg[1].source_package_version
[13:54] <fta2> u'0.1~svn805-0ubuntu1'
[13:54] <micahg> that I saw, the question is why :)
[13:55] <fta2> >>> pkg=a.getPublishedSources(source_name='chromium-codecs-ffmpeg', exact_match=True, status='Published')
[13:55] <fta2> >>> pkg[0].source_package_version
[13:55] <fta2> u'0.5+svn20100406r43776+43984+43918-0ubuntu1'
[13:55] <fta2> >>> pkg[1].source_package_version
[13:55] <fta2> u'0.5+svn20100406r43776+43984+43918-0ubuntu1'
[13:55] <micahg> fta2: seems like someone thought it was a good idea :)
[13:55] <fta2> that one looks fine
[13:56] <micahg> fta2: we have an eager dev-in-training actively trying to sync everything :)
[13:56] <fta2> micahg, could be, but i have no idea if the debian guys are aware of the risks
[13:56] <micahg> fta2: most likely not
[13:57] <fta2> i have 0.1~svn826 for the dailies. but stable requests 810
[13:57] <micahg> fta2: if you want it blacklisted, you should file a bug and subscribe archive-admin and explain way, also might want to subscribe ari-tczew since he did the sync
[13:58] <micahg> fta2: blacklist list: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/sync-blacklist.txt
[14:03] <micahg> fta2: I would also suggest that you subscribe to the package so that you see if sync requests are made
[14:07] <fta2> micahg, i should change the Maintainer field, i initially used MOTU, but it's a bad idea
[14:08] <micahg> fta2: well, maintainer should probably be ubuntu-devel-discuss unless you have an exception for it
[14:08] <micahg> fta2: unless you want to maintain in debian
[14:08] <fta2> should be like chromium
[14:08] <fta2> well, i'm getting tired of this
[14:09] <micahg> fta2: oh
[14:09] <micahg> fta2: didn't know you had it like that
[14:09] <micahg> fta2: probably ok then
[14:09] <micahg> fta2: if you're worried about the packaging breaking chromium, I would say do that
[14:10] <micahg> fta2: otherwise, I would suggest blacklist + subscribe to pacakge to prevent unwanted syncs
[14:12] <mdeslaur> fta2: chromium uploaded to the PPA for lucid, it'll be copied to -proposed once it's built
[14:13] <mdeslaur> fta2: thanks
[14:41] <fta2> someone should delete timeout from maverick, it's uninstallable now that coreutils conflicts with it
[14:41] <fta2> another brain damaged sync from debian..
[14:41] <fta2> and bad migration path too
[14:42] <micahg> fta2: it's been deleted from debian, you should file a bug and subscribe archive admin :)
[14:43] <micahg> fta2: I think it's been renamed to tct
[14:43] <fta2> nope
[14:43] <fta2> it's in coreutils now
[14:44] <micahg> k, I got redirected in p.qa.d.o
[14:44] <fta2> i don't know where to file this bug
[14:44] <micahg> fta2: your reason is why it was removed from debian :)
[14:45] <micahg> fta2: it's built by tct
[14:45] <micahg> that's the connection :)
[14:47] <micahg> maybe there should be a transitional package in coreutils?
[14:54] <fta2> indeed, that's my point about broken upgrade path
[14:55] <micahg> fta2: I would suggest filing a bug against tct to remove the binary and add a task for coreutils for a transitional package
[14:56] <fta2> i dropped it from ch trunk this morning
[14:57] <fta2> i should have dropped it from all other channels too
[15:11] <micahg> ddecator: if you want to try to rebase the patches for xul193, I can mentor :)
[15:17] <jdstrand> fta2: fyi, mdeslaur uploaded chromium-browser to the ubuntu-security-proposed ppa a little while ago. I'll get it into -proposed and do all the bug stuff when it builds
[15:28] <gnomefreak> isnt tb3 built on xul193?
[15:30] <micahg> gnomefreak: no, xul191
[15:31] <gnomefreak> micahg: ok thanks
[16:05] <fta> micahg, bug 591758
[16:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 591758 in ubuntu "please remove 'timeout' from Maverick (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591758
[16:05] <fta> not sure where to assign it though
[16:14]  * micahg isn't sure whether or not to have a second bug for coreutils transitional package
[16:15]  * micahg goes to ask
[16:18] <fta> if so, please file it, i have to leave
[16:19] <micahg> fta: k, will do, thanks
[16:26]  * gnomefreak needs to get up for a few minutes. can anyone confirm that FF36 is very slow. mine is extreamly slow and doesnt matter what site i go to. even LP is slow and there is no flash/java ect... flash movies or java games movies
[16:27] <micahg> gnomefreak: compared to what?
[16:27] <micahg> and which version?.
[16:32] <gnomefreak> micahg: daily 3.6 and compared to pretty much everything (dont recall what browsers i testedon.)
[16:33] <gnomefreak> and that is only running irssi and ff
[16:37] <gnomefreak> even sm 2.0.5 is faster by alot
[16:51] <micahg> gnomefreak: weird, probably a regression then
[17:05] <gnomefreak> I dont get it. my .pastebinit.xml hasnt changed and it used to be able to post to ubuntu.pastebin. gnomefreak@Development:~$ pastebinit install-packages
[17:05] <gnomefreak> Unknown website, please post a bugreport to request this pastebin to be added (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com)oopps
[17:05] <gnomefreak> Unknown website, please post a bugreport to request this pastebin to be added
[17:06] <micahg> gnomefreak: which version do you have?
[17:06] <gnomefreak> micahg: 1.1-2
[17:07] <micahg> gnomefreak: no idea
[17:09] <gnomefreak> micahg: thanks
[17:26] <gnomefreak> it seems that the longer you keep it open (firefox seamonkey) the slower it gets until it becomes almost un-usable i might test more later or tomorrow i have to go over my books
[17:27] <micahg> gnomefreak: 32 or 66 bit?
[17:29] <BUGabundo_remote> micahg: you just made a new CPU arch :)
[17:29] <BUGabundo_remote> good going
[17:30] <BUGabundo_remote> I was aiming to 128bits
[17:30] <BUGabundo_remote> but I guess 66 is nice too
[18:50] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: fyi, I'm adding stuff to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Firefox3.6.4Upgrade/SecurityPublication as I go. it might be worth subscribing to
[18:50] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: and hi :)
[18:51] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, thanks. sorry, i forgot to look at that today
[18:51] <chrisccoulson> i'll do that after dinner now though
[18:51] <jdstrand> no worries :)
[18:56] <ddecator> micahg: i'm willing to try, but i won't be able to until this weekend. i definitely do want to work towards being on the mozilla team though :)
[19:21] <chrisccoulson> ddecator, you're looking for work to do? ;)
[19:55] <asac> !test
[19:55]  * asac gone it seems
[19:55] <ubot4> hrm?
[19:56] <ddecator> chrisccoulson: not atm, but i definitely hope to learn enough to get into the mozilla team over the summer and help out ;)
[20:31] <micahg> ddecator: just let me know when you're ready, there's plenty to do :)  hopefully by then I'll have upload rights as well :-/
[20:32] <ddecator> micahg: hopefully sometime next week, i definitely want to get started asap :)
[20:34] <micahg> ddecator: k
[20:35] <ddecator> i figure it'll give me some extra fun work to do, and i know you guys could use the help ;)
[20:36] <micahg> ddecator: when I started fixing the dailies about 10 months ago, I didn't realize that I'd end up maintaining ~40 packages in the archive in addition to the dailies :)
[20:37] <ddecator> micahg: heh, i'm not planning on taking on that much, but you never know, haha
[20:38] <micahg> ddecator: the point is, there's plenty of work for whoever is willing :)
[20:38] <ddecator> micahg: sounds good to me
[21:00] <fta> rickspencer3, nice UrlFetchPorgressBox video :)
[21:01] <rickspencer3> hi fta
[21:01] <rickspencer3> thanks
[21:01] <rickspencer3> but of course, aquarious did the work
[21:01] <rickspencer3> I just pimped it ;)
[21:01] <fta> and very nice to watch it smoothly in 720p html5/webm fullscreen in chromium
[21:01] <rickspencer3> nice
[21:02] <fta> (got it from a youtube subscription update email)
[21:03] <fta> funny you're using gedit, i find it unusable for development
[21:06] <mdeslaur> fta: hey, there's nothing wrong with gedit for development :P
[21:07] <fta> mdeslaur, well, i guess it just works, but after so many years of emacs..
[21:08] <mdeslaur> hehe
[21:11] <chrisccoulson> gedit ftw :)
[21:12] <fta> does it do name completion?
[21:12] <chrisccoulson> i think there's a plugin for that
[21:13] <asac> i never got used to gedit either ...  but i know that a bunch of productive gnome devs use it
[21:13] <fta> i guess it's too late for me. 2 decades of vi + emacs
[21:13] <asac> fta: how comes that we are still on the beta train for -security? thought we can track stable now
[21:14] <fta> asac, we're noty
[21:14] <fta> not
[21:14] <asac> hmm. the changelog says: "new beta release ";)
[21:14] <fta> that's the old one
[21:14] <asac> did i mix that up?
[21:14]  * asac checks
[21:14] <fta> 5.0.375.70 is in the pipe somewhere
[21:15] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/5.0.375.38~r46659-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[21:15] <asac> that was uploaded 48h ago
[21:15] <asac> hmm ok
[21:15] <fta> yeah, old one
[21:15] <asac> seems that just took a whjile
[21:15] <asac> (now i see the changelog date)
[21:15] <fta> the pipe is quite long obviously
[21:15] <asac> ok ... ignore my stupid comments ;)
[21:16] <fta> could someone speed up bug 591758?
[21:16] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 591758 in tct (Ubuntu) "please remove 'timeout' from Maverick (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591758
[21:16] <fta> id like to respin ch in maverick
[21:17] <micahg> fta: it's cjwatson/kirkland's archive day according to the wiki
[21:18] <asac> http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/chromium-browser.html
[21:18] <asac> !test
[21:18] <asac> sigh ... offline again
[21:18] <asac> !test
[21:18] <ubot4> hrm?
[21:19] <asac> man my provider sucks much ... /me will pull the router plug again if it goes down one more time
[21:19] <chrisccoulson> having internet troubles asac?
[21:20] <micahg> fta: Debian seems to be giving you credit again
[21:20] <asac> chrisccoulson: yes, my standard "once a week on tue or wed we will kick you hard" provider joke
[21:21] <chrisccoulson> heh, that's strange, i've had issues today and yesterday this week too
[21:21] <asac> but there is light. 1st oct i will move in a new flat and will get a cable provider
[21:21] <chrisccoulson> my provider is normally super-reliable though
[21:21] <asac> good bye adsl + copper
[21:21] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i'm thinking about getting cable
[21:22] <sebner> asac: adsl is hell! huhu btw ;D
[21:22] <fta> micahg, yep, that's a good sign
[21:22] <chrisccoulson> i only get 7mbps on dsl, and i could probably get quite a bit more on cable
[21:22] <asac> i get 100/10 or something if i go for cable. my provider offers the same for copper ... and that while he cannot even keep up the 16M thing i am having atm
[21:22] <asac> so i dont believe in that ;)
[21:25] <fta> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/06/webm-video-lands-in-firefox-trunk.ars
[21:27] <micahg> fta: yep :)
[21:27] <fta> did you read http://blog.mozilla.com/tglek/category/startup/ ?
[21:28] <micahg> not yet
[21:28] <fta> lots of cons for system libs
[21:28] <micahg> but I did see that we should be getting PGO for FF4
[21:29] <fta> mozilla 561842
[21:29] <ubot4> Mozilla bug 561842 in Build Config "fold all remaining shared libs into libxul" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=561842
[21:29] <fta> micahg, how will we do pgo?
[21:30] <fta> iirc, you'll need to run the browser between the two passes
[21:30] <micahg> well, they're making it work w/gcc 4.5
[21:31] <fta> making it work locally is one thing, but in the builders, it's another story
[21:31] <fta> but maybe i missed something
[21:32] <micahg> fta: mozilla 559964
[21:32] <ubot4> Mozilla bug 559964 in Release Engineering "Install GCC 4.5 on linux buildslaves to enable PGO on Linux" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559964
[21:37] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: fyi, new builds for ff are still not done yet, so my testing will have to wait until tomorrow
[21:38] <fta> micahg, it's just about building twice, nothing about running the instrumented binaries from the 1st pass
[21:38] <fta> which would imho be our major problem
[21:38] <fta> builders have a very restricted env
[21:39] <micahg> fta: well, once they have it working, I'll look into how we can adapt
[21:43] <asac> chrisccoulson: mozilla says they managed to get x86 pgo going with 4.4
[21:43] <asac> !test
[21:43] <ubot4> hrm?
[21:43] <asac> damn 60 second lags ... i hate those
[21:44] <sebner> asac: how many people share your 100Mbit then ;)
[21:44] <asac> me and my torrents ;)
[21:44] <micahg> asac: gcc4.4?  I thought it was 4.5
[21:44]  * micahg is out, bbiab
[21:44] <asac> no 4.4
[21:45] <asac> let me find the mail
[21:45]  * micahg will check back later
[21:46] <BUGabundo> guud evening dear friends and weird ones :)
[21:46] <asac> forwarded a mail to you two
[21:47] <BUGabundo> you got 100mbs just for you (and your legat torrents)?
[21:47] <BUGabundo> nice
[21:47] <BUGabundo> I got 10mbs
[21:49] <asac> !test
[21:50] <ubot4> hrm?
[21:52]  * asac goes and tries to hunt someone down to give back ppa builders
[22:11] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: you around?
[22:12] <BUGabundo> always dear friend
[22:12] <BUGabundo> how much zeros on this check ?
[22:15] <gnomefreak> :)
[22:16] <gnomefreak> *sync will update files but if the image is too big will it update to the right size when ready?
[22:17] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: you mena zsync?
[22:17] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: rsync/ssync/zsync ect...
[22:17] <gnomefreak> esync not ssync
[22:17] <BUGabundo> it will get what ever is on archive
[22:17] <BUGabundo> and reuse what's on disk if matchs
[22:18] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: ok cool right now they are too big but when they change to be right size so will mine
[22:18] <gnomefreak> 4mb too big
[22:18]  * gnomefreak not using dvd for 4mv
[22:19] <gnomefreak> 4mb
[22:19] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: only one way to be sure
[22:19] <BUGabundo> zsync it and sha1 it
[22:19] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: yeah i know
[22:19] <gnomefreak> although that does explain why we had a day of missing images
[22:26] <BUGabundo> it does?
[22:28] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: yep
[22:29] <gnomefreak> they werent ready due to wrong size but i guess they uploaded them anyway but both live and alt. are both ~704mb
[22:33] <gnomefreak> can someone that uses pastebinit pastebin your .pastebinit.xml maybe it can prevent me from going through the whole file bug and wait think
[22:41] <gnomefreak> ok bug filed now the fun crap starts. be back in a few i hope


[11:06] <barnes> is it aws or ubuntu-mirrors handling aws mirrors?
[12:55] <xnox> barnes: mostly ubuntu-mirrors
[12:56] <xnox> barnes<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-images/+filebug are ok starting points.


[01:04] <Unit193> I'm sure I'm the last to know that SourceForge will be at OLF
[20:29] <Unit193> Derath-Srvr: Howdy! Welcome back!
[20:30] <Derath-Srvr> Sup!
[20:30] <Derath-Srvr> thafreak, you awake over there?
[20:30] <Derath-Srvr> And kind of an odd experience... my server restarted 8 days ago without my knowing...
[20:30] <Unit193> thafreak  G   0
[20:32] <Unit193> Dang. If I actually do setup that server, I don't know where I would put it...
[20:36]  * Derath-Srvr slaps thafreak around.
[20:36] <Derath-Srvr> Of course, the time I come around and need to talk to him lol
[20:41] <Derath-Srvr> Ah well, maybe he'll reply to my email...
[20:41]  * Derath-Srvr goes back to idling
[20:41] <Unit193> Adios
[23:39] <gilbert> what up :P
[23:42] <Unit193> Talking?
[23:42] <Unit193> Howdy
[23:45] <Unit193> OLF going along well?


[00:00] <Vysty> Cricket. Anyone able to help me set up a VPN?
[00:00] <Vysty> Or troubleshoot it, because I think I have it set up but it's still leaking.
[00:08] <arktvrvs> wherever you found out how to set it up, should have more info how to configure the system to use it.
[00:08] <arktvrvs> The easiest way should be to set it as default route
[00:09] <arktvrvs> I don't have a vpn set up at the moment but again, wherever you got the instructions to set it up, should have more instructions.
[00:18] <Vysty> arktvrvs: I'm digging through the instructions like crazy.
[00:18] <Vysty> Not finding what I need.
[00:18] <Vysty> Some IP checkers are pulling up the VPN location, others are still pulling up my location.
[00:18] <Vysty> Quite confused.
[00:19] <tatertots> Vysty: i think it may be a stretch to say you have VPN setup and configured, but that VPN is not functional at the same time
[00:19] <Vysty> tatertots: I concur. I'm ready and willing for someone to point out the error of my ways.
[00:20] <Vysty> When I go through the troubleshooting on the VPN website, its geolocator is giving the VPN's location.
[00:20] <Vysty> When I go to whatismyipaddress.com, it still gives MY location.
[00:21] <Vysty> And the website that I specifically don't want to see my location is still seeing my location.
[00:22] <analogical> how do I open a zip archive that consists of many files?
[00:22] <Vysty> So I decided to come into the Ubuntu chat to see if someone had a better idea than the VPN website or google searches.
[00:29] <antant00> Hello, i`ve installed a version of gcc from a PPA and i want to remove it now, but apt says that it will remove all the software that depends on it. I want to remove just the new verison of gcc, as there is older version of it installed on the system. Is it safe to do this and how?
[00:47] <semitones> hey friends, how to gracefully recover a hung ubuntu (mate if that matters)
[00:47] <semitones> ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't work
[00:51] <XXCoder> semitones: crashed xscreensaver or lock screen?
[00:51] <semitones> just crashed. clock hadn't changed since 7:28
[00:51] <semitones> i held down the power button since nothing was working
[00:52] <XXCoder> oh dunno, you can always connect to it using ssh though you have to had setup ssh server first
[00:52] <XXCoder> sometimes its only way to recober
[00:59] <Bashing-om> !sysrq | semitones
[01:01] <semitones> i tried sysreg and it didn't work :( but I also tried alt sysreg k not those other letters
[01:03] <Bashing-om> semitones: What returns ' cat /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq ' ?
[01:41] <m15k> Hi! I wonder if I cannot do symlinks in /usr/local/share/ca-certificates. When I do dpkg-reconfigure I don't see the cert. If I copy it I cann add it to trust store... And idea why's that?
[01:43] <semitones> Bashing-om, 176
[01:47] <Bashing-om> semitones: :) then the magic sysrq key is enabled .
[01:56] <XXCoder> Bashing-om: mines 1 weird
[01:57] <Bashing-om> XXCoder: One on older releases is also accepted .
[01:57] <XXCoder> interesting. how do I check if sysrq works?
[01:58] <Bashing-om> XXCoder: try it and see :)
[01:58] <XXCoder> which is best to see if its working without say rebooting or something
[01:59] <Poland> you can switch to 1 tty with alt+ctrl+f1 and press alt+sysrq+r
[01:59] <Poland> you should see "keyboard raw mode set" or something similar
[02:00] <Bashing-om> XXCoder: The proof is in the pudding . close all out to terminal; and execute the various arguments ( or all of them ) .
[02:01] <XXCoder> ok
[02:02] <XXCoder> it didnt
[02:03] <XXCoder> I guess its because of apple keyboard being different
[02:03] <XXCoder> also found out HWE is out of date and I need to do distro-upgrade bleh
[02:04] <etzerd> Hello all
[02:04] <arktvrvs> hai
[02:04] <etzerd> Happy new year all
[02:09] <allenlong> so i had ubuntu 16.04 installed but it was crashing all the time, so i installed lubuntu 17.10. on the 16.04, wireless connections and wifi was already there. no install of nothing to get it. with this lubuntu 17.10, it is non-existent, and i cannot figure out how to enable my atheros5k adapter. any clues, i am new to linux, so im slow!
[02:12] <optimus\prime> anyone know why i cant remove "deluge" ? I have remove and purge and it still opens when i click a torrent link
[02:12] <optimus\prime> is it a virus?
[02:13] <Ben64> optimus\prime: probably didn't remove it then
[02:14] <Ben64> optimus\prime: whats the output of "which deluge deluge-gtk"
[02:21] <optimus\prime> /usr/bin/deluge-gtk
[02:22] <optimus\prime> its the same on multiple distros, sudo apt-get remove && sudo apt-get purge seem to have no effect on deluge
[02:23] <optimus\prime> ive never encountered that before
[02:26] <Ben64> optimus\prime: probably because you need to remove deluge-gtk
[02:39] <optimus\prime> Ben64: that solved it
[02:41] <optimus\prime> disaster averted ! I was so afraid I was going to have to start over because I had used Bionic Beaver nightly
[03:25] <semitones> Bashing-om, i tihnk it just didn't work when the computer was frozne
[03:29] <Bashing-om> semitones: yeah, could be .. Had that same issue with my system when it froze up - would not even see a ping on the LAN .
[03:35] <faraco> Hi, how can I keep wifi running even I turn my laptop to sleep?
[03:36] <faraco> I need to use my laptop as *hotspot* so I can connect to a computer without wireless card through ethernet cable.
[03:37] <lerg> :/
[03:37] <faraco> ?
[03:37] <faraco> Is my statement, vague?
[03:37] <faraco> question*
[03:41] <Bashing-om> faraco: Ya gots to await one who has done it too advise you :)
[03:42] <faraco> ah, okay then :)
[03:58] <ghostnik11> what button must i press to leave console? like when one presses alt + f1 how can i then go back to the regular desktop without restarting
[03:58] <Allanis> alt+f7
[03:59] <XXCoder> or 8 but ubuntu default is 7
[03:59] <Allanis> ^
[04:00] <XXCoder> ghostnik11: you may be missing ctrl - as in ctrl-alt-f7 (or 8)
[04:00] <ghostnik11> XXCoder: i got it back with f7
[04:00] <XXCoder> cool
[04:12] <JJBby> Hello, when i hit "show aplications" than hit escape I see a over view (I lack the terminology) of the windows that I have open, what is this view called and is there a way to get to that view with out going to "Show Applications"?
[04:15] <TaZeR> using a computer system has never been this much fun!
[04:18] <sdfgsdfg> how do I install a minimal ubuntu ?
[04:19] <sdfgsdfg> with no window manager graphics etc
[04:19] <LordRyan> sdfgsdfg: You can install Ubuntu Server which comes without a desktop environment: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[04:19] <sdfgsdfg> thank you lord
[04:19] <LordRyan> \o unicodepepper
[04:19] <unicodepepper> Hey there
[04:19] <unicodepepper> This is my first time in irc so sorry if I do dumb stuff
[04:20] <sdfgsdfg> where did you hear about irc, this is like a 20 year old tech
[04:20] <LordRyan> me
[04:20] <sdfgsdfg> nobody knows about irc but us
[04:20] <unicodepepper> I've heard about irc all my life, but this is my first time like, actually using it
[04:20] <sdfgsdfg> this is secret society
[04:20] <LordRyan> they asked a question on an alternative medium about mouse issues so I redirected them here.
[04:20] <Allanis> Shhh....
[04:21] <JJBby> LordRyan: Hello!
[04:21] <LordRyan> oh god it's you
[04:21] <LordRyan> :P
[04:21] <unicodepepper> I installed ubuntu recently and I'm trying to use it as my daily driver, but there's something oddly specific that irks me when I scroll through websites
[04:21] <unicodepepper> There's a shortcut in windows that became muscle memory for me where you just middle-click anywhere on the page and move the mouse down a little bit and it scrolls automatically
[04:21] <JJBby> LordRyan: yeah, exactly, I am getting better though! Finding those resources, asking you less questions!
[04:22] <sdfgsdfg> thats such an obnoxious hotkey, you know how hard it is to press scroll button on mice
[04:22] <LordRyan> Was beginning to wonder if something happened :P
[04:22] <sdfgsdfg> there are browser plugins that remaps the scrolling to easy keys
[04:22] <unicodepepper> On my mouse it needs about as much force as the regular buttons ^^"
[04:22] <unicodepepper> It's actually easier for me than regular scrolling
[04:22] <sdfgsdfg> thats still not as good as a magic touchpad2
[04:22] <sdfgsdfg> and ubuntu now has driver for that
[04:22] <Ben64> unicodepepper: look up "autoscroll" extension for chrome
[04:23] <unicodepepper> gotcha
[04:23] <sdfgsdfg> since 2 months ago xD
[04:23] <unicodepepper> the one made by apple?
[04:23] <sdfgsdfg> yes
[04:23] <sdfgsdfg> go crazy, use your palm, four fingers
[04:23] <JJBby> Whats the command to preview all my open GUIs and see the search bar?
[04:23] <sdfgsdfg> finger it until it stops scrolling and crashes
[04:24] <LordRyan> that sounds oddly lewd
[04:24] <unicodepepper> I have no idea how to mention people in irc so
[04:25] <unicodepepper> I owe you my life, Ben64
[04:25] <Ben64> you just did it
[04:25] <Ben64> and no problem
[04:25] <sdfgsdfg> what did he do
[04:25] <Ben64> mentioned me in irc
[04:26] <unicodepepper> sdfgsdfg: Ben64:
[04:26] <unicodepepper> uh
[04:26] <unicodepepper> I'll keep clicking around
[04:28] <lerg> 2018 dirty talk
[04:34] <JJBby> https://snag.gy/La2Jn9.jpg How do i get to that view with out going into the show apps thing
[04:34] <JJBby> ?
[04:37] <LordRyan> i assume GNOME probably has a keyboard shortcut if you go scroll through the GNOME settings
[04:37] <LordRyan> should be something like "Keyboard" in the settings window, and then one of the tabs leads to shortcuts?
[04:38] <sebsebsebb> hi
[04:40] <JJBby> LordRyan: yeah, lots of shortcuts there, wish i new what that view was called, will test
[04:41] <unicodepepper> I think it's super + w
[04:42] <unicodepepper> and super + shift + w for all workspaces
[04:43] <JJBby> unicodepepper: nope, not my hotkeys.
[04:43] <LordRyan> unicodepepper: you're in Unity; he's in GNOME.
[04:43] <LordRyan> two different WMs
[04:43] <JJBby> Thats based on the version of Ubuntu right? as 17.10 changed from Unity to GNOME?
[04:44] <sebsebsebb> JJBby: what is, i missed some of this
[04:44] <LordRyan> JJBby: yeah
[04:54] <unicodepepper> Goodnight peeps
[04:54] <unicodepepper> Happy new year
[05:00]  * flyback- happy new year, YOU STUPID CANUCKS
[05:07] <jsksoapa> Hi
[05:07] <David_Ruan> Hello
[05:10] <David_Ruan> Is there anybody here?
[05:10] <David_Ruan> no one ?
[05:10] <jsksoapa> Yeah
[05:11] <jsksoapa> It's
[05:11] <jsksoapa> Kind of
[05:11] <David_Ruan> kind of what ?
[05:11] <jsksoapa> Eww
[05:12] <David_Ruan> what does "Eww" mean?
[05:13] <jsksoapa> Nevermind.
[05:13] <jsksoapa> I'm outta hear.
[05:13] <XXCoder> David_Ruan: sounds of disgust. "looks at vomit pile, says ewww"
[05:22] <David_Ruan> XXCoder is son of a bitch
[05:23] <XXCoder> okay.
[05:23] <David_Ruan> Are you Nazi?
[05:23] <XXCoder> okay.
[05:30] <ghostnik11> hey i am trying to install android x86 along side ubuntu 16.04 but the thing is that android doesn't use gparted and uses gpt to complete the modification of the hard disk so i want to know how i can select the correct amount of space with gpt
[05:31] <ghostnik11> or is it easier to just install it first then install ubuntu?
[05:33] <eraserpencil> I'm abit lost between the differences of i3, tmux and screen
[05:34] <eraserpencil> is tmux and screen solely for terminal and i3 for the gui?
[05:58] <Neo2> )
[05:58] <Neo2> who know how to set up unity on ubuntu gnome?
[05:58] <Neo2> I've done 'sudo apt-get install unity' and when I reload I don't see unity in desktop list???
[05:59] <Neo2> gnome is so ugly on little screen
[05:59] <XXCoder> xfce
[05:59] <xangua> Neo2: the best way is to install Ubuntu unity
[05:59] <Neo2> if you have 15 inch screen dont install chrome
[05:59] <Neo2> there exists cinnamon?
[06:00] <Neo2> XXCoder: do you know this desktop?
[06:00] <Neo2> I have it default
[06:00] <XXCoder> xfce? yeah I use it all time
[06:00] <barracuda> xfce ftw
[06:00] <Neo2> XXCoder: what is cinnamon?
[06:00] <XXCoder> desktop manager should not have a big resource bite. (looking at you kde and somewhat to gnome and unity)
[06:00] <Neo2> there in list exist cinnamon and gnome
[06:01] <XXCoder> if I recall right its based on gnome
[06:01] <XXCoder> but not sure
[06:01] <Neo2> probably
[06:01] <Neo2> but it looks and works much better than gnome
[06:01] <Neo2> in gnome doesnt work shortcut ctrl+shift+b in chrome
[06:01] <Neo2> ungly windows
[06:01] <Neo2> very big titles
[06:02] <Neo2> in unity I didn't see this before or didn't pay attantion, want again return
[06:03] <Neo2> if screen little 15inch better unity
[06:04] <Neo2> XXCoder: better windows....
[06:06] <Neo2> XXCoder: I want to return back... a few days on linux for me enough.....
[06:06] <Neo2> nothing work right :(
[06:06] <Neo2> always struggling against OS instead of make code....
[06:07] <Neo2> I can't it use like desktop OS ... :(
[06:08] <Neo2> want but can't
[06:08] <Ben64> you could
[06:08] <barracuda> download xubuntu
[06:08] <barracuda> and stop whining
[06:09] <Neo2> Ben64: how? there almost everything is broken....
[06:09] <Ben64> like what
[06:09] <Neo2> in windows everything works smoothly without bugs....
[06:09] <barracuda> then go use windows
[06:10] <Neo2> Ben64: I will try again customize it....
[06:10] <Ben64> yeah if that's the level of detail we're working with, then it's impossible to help you
[06:11] <Neo2> Ben64: I long time use windows and more like comfort when I'll have installed app and work instead fight bugs or other errors....
[06:12] <Neo2> I seem with unity was less bags than with gnome, and weren't so ugly windows
[06:12] <Neo2> title bar in gnome windows on half of screen so big
[06:12] <Ben64> what
[06:14] <Neo2> Ben64: see title on the top http://storage2.static.itmages.com/i/18/0101/h_1514787245_1852263_20236aae3a.png
[06:15] <Neo2> Ben64: see http://storage3.static.itmages.com/i/18/0101/h_1514787316_4345883_072fbae8d2.png
[06:15] <Neo2> in unity weren't this
[06:15] <Ben64> 1366x768
[06:16] <Neo2> screen is little and that ungly titlte
[06:16] <Neo2> Ben64: what?
[06:16] <Ben64> screen resolution is very small
[06:16]  * barracuda crosses himself
[06:17]  * barracuda with both right and left hands
[06:17] <Neo2> Ben64: 15 inch monitor
[06:17] <Ben64> yeah that's not good
[06:18] <Neo2> if you have laptop gnome is not your choice
[06:18] <Ben64> could use a different theme or something
[06:18] <Neo2> yes here was unity and it works much better with little resolution how reinstall it?
[06:18] <Neo2> I want to try a few desktops
[06:19] <Ben64> what version of ubuntu
[06:19] <Neo2> don't know
[06:19] <Ben64> lsb_release -d
[06:20] <Neo2> 16.04
[06:21] <Ben64> sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop
[06:21] <Neo2> and see I can't copy past use shft+ctrl+c or +v
[06:21] <Neo2> gnome is shit
[06:21] <Ben64> watch the language in here
[06:21] <Neo2> well, is bad )
[06:21] <Neo2> gnome is bad*
[06:22] <Ben64> no
[06:22] <Ben64> your tiny monitor is bad
[06:22] <Neo2> Ben64: have you see laptop with big monitors? All of them 15 - 17 inch
[06:23] <Neo2> if new ubuntu will use gnome it won't suit for them
[06:23] <Ben64> they usually have higher resolution, and gnome is fine
[06:23] <tsarompy> happy new yearz #ubuntu
[06:24] <Neo2> Ben64: I don't know where here change resolution, I made scaling 1.4, becuase if I do 1 and increase font to 14 I chrome it doesn't works normally
[06:26] <Neo2> Ben64: see what I have now http://storage1.static.itmages.com/i/18/0101/h_1514787950_7715045_2beb8423a8.png
[06:26] <Ben64> so you made it too big and now complaining it's too big
[06:28] <Neo2> Ben64: When I do this
[06:28] <Neo2> http://storage2.static.itmages.com/i/18/0101/h_1514787998_3086981_2beb8423a8.png
[06:28] <Neo2> I got fon't in chrome so small and can't change
[06:28] <Neo2> http://storage3.static.itmages.com/i/18/0101/h_1514788093_8680552_0d64c6db67.png
[06:29] <barracuda> there's a porn webpage in the lower right hand corner
[06:29]  * barracuda laughs
[06:30] <barracuda> actually
[06:30]  * barracuda laughs at Neo2's face
[06:30] <Neo2> pronhub
[06:30] <Neo2> I've always there watched porno
[06:30] <Neo2> frequently used :)
[06:31] <barracuda> too much information my son
[06:31] <Neo2> ok, I'll return after reload
[06:31] <Neo2> wait
[06:39] <Neo2> don't know, unity seems much better
[06:40] <Neo2> and in gnome doesn't work touchpad scroll too
[06:40] <Neo2> works only two fingers use
[06:40] <Neo2> it works when use two fingers
[06:41] <Neo2> one word - horrible thing, I don't suggest it even to try
[06:44] <Neo2> seems new after new release people will still use long time unity
[06:48] <OrcD3vil> Fresh install booted in to install nvidia/intel drivers upon reboot at login type in pass flashes a /dev something top left screen closes back to login with password
[06:48] <OrcD3vil> anyone heard of this before? no idea what to call it
[06:51] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: At the login screen - key combo ctl+alt+F2 to gain a console interface; can you log into the system here ? then we consider installing the proprietary driver .
[06:52] <OrcD3vil> in the live cd right now i can connect using my tablet would take me a second
[06:53] <OrcD3vil> man so many problems tried Mint/Ubuntu nvidia problems galore.. its a damn 970 not like its brand new tech
[06:55] <orcd3viler> k booting into the install you said cr
[06:55] <orcd3viler> ctrl alt f2 right?
[06:55] <Bashing-om> OrcD3vil: nvidia can be a problem - sometimes - . What release did you install ?
[06:55] <orcd3viler> 16.04 lts
[06:55] <Bashing-om> orcd3viler: Yes for a interface .
[06:56] <orcd3viler> ok logged in
[06:57] <Bashing-om> orcd3viler: do ' sudo apt update l sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' .
[06:57] <Bashing-om> sudo apt update ; sudo aot full ........
[06:59] <orcd3viler> says 290 packages can be upgraded
[06:59] <Neo2> oh mu goodness it's really unity looks better
[07:00] <Bashing-om> orcd3viler: do it :)
[07:00] <orcd3viler> upgrading now.. man been out of limux forever used to not have all these problems wtf
[07:01] <orcd3viler> mint cinnamom crashes no fix.. ubuntu cant login all cause of drivers wow
[07:02] <Bashing-om> orcd3viler: driver is the likely thing . we will see .
[07:02] <orcd3viler> k did all commands seperate its finished but the ubuntu-drivers didnt do anything
[07:03] <Bashing-om> orcd3viler: Reboot for the install of the driver to take effect .
[07:03] <orcd3viler> checked the dependancys and said 0 upgrade 0 removed etc
[07:03] <orcd3viler> k rebooting
[07:04] <orcd3viler> same flashes something about /dev/sda3
[07:06] <orcd3viler> so i have ssd and 2tb put 500mb efi 500mb boot rest on ssd /, then on 2tb put 12gig swap then rest /home would that cause a problem?
[07:08] <Bashing-om> orcd3viler: SSD requires AHCI to b set in bios . is it ?
[07:09] <orcd3viler> should be yes
[07:12] <Bashing-om> orcd3viler: might be good to look at the partitoning and see what is . From the liveUSB pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' . And you did install as UEFI mode ?
[07:12] <Bashing-om> orcd3viler: naw .. can also run the parted -l command from the F2 terminal .
[07:13] <orcd3viler> yes uefi had to make password to disable etc
[07:15] <orcd3viler> hmm changed bios to non windwos uefi to other os and its in
[07:16] <Bashing-om> orcd3viler: :) All good now ?
[07:16] <orcd3viler> hmm hpw to test drivers working?
[07:18] <Bashing-om> orcd3viler: in the GUI is ' nvidia settings ' also there is 'nvidia-prime to change the graphic's sets .
[07:19] <HoloIRCUser1> I've somehow hosed my window manager. My desktop is showing, but I can't ctrl-alt-t to open a terminal and the menus are unavailable. I can switch to virtual terminals. Any suggestions how to recover from this?
[07:21] <orcd3viler> ok thnx im sure ill be back on desktop lol
[07:21] <orcd3viler> thnx bashing
[07:43] <HoloIRCUser1> : I've somehow hosed my window manager. My desktop is showing, but I can't ctrl-alt-t to open a terminal and the menus are unavailable. I can switch to virtual terminals. Any suggestions how to recover from this?
[07:49] <siva> siva
[07:55] <joesmith> hi
[07:56] <joesmith> no one?
[07:56] <joesmith> why
[07:57] <oktawian> hi...where is plan of official innaugarate of new president of Ubuntu vel Lord Sasanek Marcin Górski from psychiatric from Poland ?
[07:58] <oktawian> we got many plans in new year
[07:58] <oktawian> first ban wayland
[08:01] <Neo2> what is cmake and make?
[08:01] <lerg> man cmake
[08:01] <lerg> man make
[08:01] <cfhowlett> Neo2, in your terminal: man make          read and learn
[08:01] <Neo2> lerg: I now use it, make from cmake /sorce somethign and run make
[08:01] <Neo2> where make is installing files?
[08:02] <Neo2> cfhowlett: it works long...
[08:02] <Neo2> probably better to use sudo apt-get install them cmake
[08:03] <oktawian> who is now  a chairman in ubuntu ?
[08:03] <oktawian> can i get a adress ?
[08:03] <cfhowlett> oktawian, no
[08:03] <oktawian> the freeware people whant to get control
[08:03] <cfhowlett> oktawian, this is the tech support channel.  for general chitchat, please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:04] <oktawian> who is the chairman of ubuntu ??? Canonical ?
[08:04] <cfhowlett> by definition, a company is not a chairman.
[08:05] <cfhowlett> !sabdfl | oktawian
[08:05] <oktawian> i dont know who is it company concern or who is it...we want get control from ubu
[08:06] <oktawian> we just want to get control we are the GNU and freeware people...we want freedom
[08:06] <cfhowlett> again: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:06] <oktawian> ubuntu got to be beware couse they dont realise a mission
[08:07] <oktawian> ubuntu going to that way like microsoft
[08:08] <oktawian> and we I Milczarski von and Lord Sasanek (Marcin Górski from psychiatric hospital ,multi proggramer) want to stop that
[08:08] <oktawian> we are the prenomerators of Linux Magazin ...I am the buddy of Stallman
[08:08] <oktawian> i write to Linus
[08:09] <oktawian> i want to say one little  message to ubuntu corporate and all of linux family  ACHTUNG JUDE
[08:22] <Neo2> I had installed app using source I noticed it installed in folder /user/local/bin ? there I only one this file
[08:23] <Neo2> and that app doesn't exists in common search where all apps?
[08:33] <Neo2> how to uninstall apps from user/local/bin?
[08:37] <EriC^^> Neo2: depends on the app, some let you do make uninstall
[08:37] <Neo2> make uninstall from anywhere places?
[08:37] <EriC^^> 'make uninstall' from the source dir you installed from or maybe the /usr/local/app place
[08:37] <EriC^^> how'd you install them?
[08:38] <Neo2> probably from source
[08:38] <EriC^^> ok, try make uninstall from there or check the README for any uninstall command
[08:39] <Neo2> I created /build, went there and run cmake /my_source, then run make, and make install
[08:41] <Neo2> EriC^^: no rull to make target uninstall
[08:41] <EriC^^> same thing except run make uninstall instead of make
[08:42] <EriC^^> ah, check the README
[08:42] <EriC^^> !checkinstall | Neo2 for the future use this
[08:45] <Neo2> well, I'll do reinstall and reerase all old package, then remove
[08:46] <EriC^^> good ide
[08:46] <EriC^^> *idea
[08:46] <Neo2> when I will work with OS instead strugning forever )))
[08:47] <Neo2> it's 3th days I've been using ubuntu like desktop...
[08:47] <EriC^^> it grows on you
[08:47] <EriC^^> :D
[08:49] <EriC^^> what did you mean by reinstall? to use checkinstall to erase the package?
[08:50] <Neo2> EriC^^: yes, I think it's reinstall in old place and then I can remove
[08:50] <HoloIRCUser1> : I've somehow hosed my window manager. My desktop is showing, but I can't ctrl-alt-t to open a terminal and the menus are unavailable. I can switch to virtual terminals. Any suggestions how to recover from this?
[08:50] <EriC^^> yup i think so too
[08:51] <EriC^^> HoloIRCUser1: does the guest account work?
[08:52] <Gume> Heya guys!
[08:52] <Gume> This is where ya'll been hiding ;)
[08:52] <HoloIRCUser1> Um it automatically logs into my account there is no option for guest account
[08:53] <Gume> https://www.parrotsec.org/ - thoughts?
[08:54] <EriC^^> HoloIRCUser1: which ubuntu flavor?
[08:55] <HoloIRCUser1> 16.04.3 lts
[08:55] <EriC^^> ubuntu ? or xubuntu etc?
[08:55] <HoloIRCUser1> Ubuntu
[08:55] <HoloIRCUser1> I have no idea what caused the problem, it seemed to happen after updating python
[08:56] <EriC^^> HoloIRCUser1: try 'sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf' and see if there's anything next to auto-login and remove your user if it's there and save & exit
[08:56] <HoloIRCUser1> The desktop shows, with file icons but no unity launcher etc
[08:56] <HoloIRCUser1> Also no terminal, ctrl-alt-t does nothing
[08:57] <EriC^^> if the guest account works then it's just a user config issue
[08:58] <_KaszpiR_> sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[08:58] <HoloIRCUser1> Ok thanks I've tried and am rebooting into guest now
[08:59] <Neo2> EriC^^: HoloIRCUser1: listen that checkinstall creates dep packages that should run
[08:59] <HoloIRCUser1> No, guest login has same problem
[09:00] <EriC^^> HoloIRCUser1: did you install any ppa's?
[09:00] <HoloIRCUser1> No
[09:00] <HoloIRCUser1> Trying kaszpirs advice now
[09:01] <EriC^^> HoloIRCUser1: try apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop | awk '/Depends/ { print $2 }' | xargs sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall
[09:02] <HoloIRCUser1> Ok once my reinstall finishes I'll try that thanks
[09:02] <EriC^^> Neo2: yeah, use sudo dpkg -i /path/to/deb
[09:16] <HoloIRCUser> EriC^^ trying your idea now, my reinstall didn't fix it
[09:38] <cuken> What's the command to recursively move all subfolders within a directory up a directory?
[09:56] <max_> hello
[10:13] <max_> Всем привет
[10:19] <_KaszpiR_> please use english, more people will be able to help
[10:56] <hans_> does http://cdimage.ubuntu.com load for anyone else?
[10:57] <hans_> oh nvm, now it loads
[10:59] <arora> heh
[11:05] <realies> running teamviewer on a headless ubuntu 16.04 produces some really low framerate picture
[11:06] <realies> all animations are slowed down as well
[11:06] <realies> i mean 0.33fps
[11:06] <realies> assuming somethings going weird because it's headless
[11:06] <realies> how to fix?
[11:16] <arussel> hi. Since I've updated to 17.10 my dual screen setup is broken. I built in xeon an an amd/ati card. I was working well before with 17.04. Now if both screen are plugged in, the boot process doesn't finish. If I plug a second screen after boot, I can get the mouse to the second screen and see it, but everything else is black.
[11:19] <radix_> hello friends
[11:19] <radix_> my mpv player not subttitle
[11:20] <radix_> mpv player not sutittle
[11:20] <radix_> help me
[11:20] <bazhang> radix_, you want to hardcode them, have a seperate srt file or what
[11:20] <radix_> subtittle languange
[11:21] <radix_> and not loadi
[11:21] <radix_> load
[11:21] <bazhang> radix_, yes, thats waht subtitle means
[11:21] <bazhang> radix_, is there a seperate .srt file or not
[11:21] <radix_> bulgarian subtittle
[11:22] <EriC^^> arussel: did you try removing then reinstalling the drivers?
[11:22] <hans_> ` sudo apt install vlc `
[11:22] <bazhang> radix_, what sort of file is this subtitle
[11:22] <radix_> I do not have subtitles
[11:23] <bazhang> hans_, vlc wont magically produce subtitles
[11:23] <radix_> no settings available
[11:23] <hans_> bazhang, true, but i thought his problem was that the existing subtitles didn't load, not that he didn't have any
[11:23] <bazhang> radix_, then you need to search the net for them
[11:23] <cfhowlett> radix_, ***do you have the subtitle files***?
[11:23] <radix_> yes
[11:24] <radix_> I have downloaded
[11:27] <cfhowlett> radix_, play the file.  hit the v key to toggle subtitles
[11:27] <hans_> how can you tell mpv where to load subtitle files from?
[11:28] <cfhowlett> hans_, yes.  I assumed :) he did that already.
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Happy New Year!
[12:13] <Acheron-a> thanks BluesKaj
[12:43] <arussel> EriC^^: which driver ? aren't they installed by default ?
[12:46] <Avere> I'm having trouble mounting my NTFS partition in my home folder. I created a directory ~/Stuff and mount it there using the Disks utility GUI. It shows up and works fine until I restart
[12:46] <Avere> Then the Stuff folder is empty and accessing the disk via the file manager also shows up as empty
[12:47] <bencc1> how can I find ip from hostname in the command line against internal DNS server?
[12:47] <akik> Avere: you can add it to /etc/fstab so that it's always mounted after a boot
[12:47] <Avere> akik: thats what I did
[12:47] <Avere> It even shows up as mounted
[12:48] <akik> bencc1: dig hostname @dnsserver
[12:48] <Avere> But when I try to unmount I get `error unomunting additionalstuff (udisks-error-quark-0)`
[12:49] <Avere> And finally, I have to open fstab, remove the disk then restart to actually use the disk again
[12:49] <akik> Avere: ok your first description told another story
[12:50] <akik> Avere: you need to umount it either as root or udisksctl
[12:50] <Avere> That's a part of the problem too :)
[12:51] <akik> Avere: you don't need to remove it from /etc/fstab though
[12:53] <Avere> Used `sudo`. I get `umount: /home/user/Stuff: not mounted.`
[12:53] <Avere> `
[12:53] <Avere> But it still shows up as mounted in the Disks utility
[12:53] <bencc> akik: I see the internal IP in the dig answer but there is other info.
[12:53] <bencc> anyway to get just the ip?
[12:53] <akik> Avere: you can use "df" to see if it's mounted or not
[12:54] <Avere>  akik  yup its mounted
[12:54] <Avere> But the mounted folder is empty
[12:54] <akik> bencc: you can also use: host hostname dnsserver
[12:55] <bencc> akik: "host hostname" is nicer. can I get only the ip from it?
[12:55] <bencc> it gives me: "somehost has address 123.45.67"
[12:55] <Avere> akik: hold up! The mounting works fine. It's just that the disk shows as empty
[12:55] <akik> bencc: use: dig +short hostname @dnsserver
[12:56] <Avere> Dammit. I changed the filesystem type from auto to ntfs. Could that be the problem?
[12:56] <bencc> akik: bingo :)
[12:56] <bencc> thanks
[12:56] <akik> Avere: what is a auto filesystem?
[12:58] <Avere> akik: In the disk utilities, under the mount options there is a column called 'filesystem' . The default is auto
[12:58] <akik> Avere: ok it might be the kernel or mount figuring out the file system themselves
[12:59] <Avere> Yeah, so leave it at auto or change to ntfs?
[12:59] <akik> Avere: if it's always ntfs, i'd put ntfs
[13:00] <Avere> And thus it shows as empty 😭
[13:01] <akik> Avere: can you write into it when it's mounted and empty?
[13:02] <Avere> akik: yupp
[13:02] <akik> Avere: but you don't see the files that should be there?
[13:02] <Avere> Yes
[13:02] <akik> Avere: sorry i'm baffled
[13:03] <Avere> Here's the weird thing, all I have to do is remove the entry from fstab and reboot. Then I can access it normally as removeable media
[13:04] <akik> Avere: do you access it through /media/username/something then?
[13:05] <Avere> Thats the way I normally access it. But after mounting, even accessing it that way shows as empty
[13:11] <Barones> Is there a fix to popper-glib in pdf normalization? The evince annottation tool gets pretty wrong placed
[13:14] <madlin> Hi, I want to get to know friends who understand well in the computer
[13:40] <dingir> happy new year
[13:42] <lerg> die
[14:27] <hacktus0> hello I've a probleme, I want to do a backup from ecryptfs but when I mounted this by : mount -t ecryptfs /src /dst then it works but when I am in /dst then I can do ls and I see my files but I can't read them
[14:28] <hacktus0> when I m doing a cp or cat then : impossible file doesn't exist
[14:41] <arussel> hi. Since I've updated to 17.10 my dual screen setup is broken. I built in xeon an an amd/ati card. I was working well before with 17.04. Now if both screen are plugged in, the boot process doesn't finish. If I plug a second screen after boot, I can get the mouse to the second screen and see it, but everything else is black.
[14:42] <arussel> using a single screen, either using the built in or the amd/ati card works without problem.
[15:04] <paola> hello?
[15:06] <paola> is anyone there?
[15:06] <erGoline> Hi and happy new year! I have a *big* problem: On my MBA I boot a live to install Ubuntu on an USB, during the process I chose the "encrypted disk" option, selected the password and pressed next. Then I realized that I didn't have put the second USB stick in, so I went back to start the procedure again. Unfortunately it seems that when I choose the password the installer already updated the main ssd par
[15:06] <erGoline> tition, and now it is not bootable anymore :( I know that is only relatively in topic, but asking you is the only solution I can find now. Any help, please?
[15:07] <paola> who is this
[15:07] <paola> ?
[15:09] <tonyt> Happy New Years all
[15:09] <paola> thanks u to :3
[15:11] <pycer> Install Gentoo
[15:12] <Pikachu> hi?
[15:13] <bl0ndii> hello
[15:14] <Pikachu> are u real?
[15:14] <bl0ndii> me?
[15:14] <bl0ndii> yes
[15:14] <Pikachu> yes u
[15:15] <Pikachu> soooooooo?
[15:17] <Pikachu> how your day?
[15:17] <Eulered> Hi everyone. I was wondering if somebody knew a bit about bluetooth and could help me out. I'm running Ubuntu 16.04, with a Dell XPS 15. I've followed these instructions (same bluetooth card) to no avail. https://askubuntu.com/questions/880745/ubuntu-16-04-bluetooth-not-working-dell-xps13
[15:18] <Eulered> dmesg | grep Blue gives Bluetooth: hci0 command 0x0a0a tx timeout
[15:19] <bl0ndii> Eulered, 1) have you enabled in bios and 2) is there a switch on your notebook to enable wireless?
[15:20] <Eulered> Thanks, @blondii. Yes to both questions, I believe both are switched on.
[15:20] <Eulered> Here is the full output of dmesg if it helps. It seems like the card is initializing properly, but then something goes awry.
[15:20] <Eulered> https://pastebin.com/DCpdrffx
[15:21] <Pikachu> this is my first time on Haxchat
[15:25] <Eulered> I think I may have found a solution. Thanks!
[15:26] <Pikachu> so hows everyones day
[15:34] <FurretUber> Hi, most of keyboard shortcuts stopped working now. The shortcuts related to xfwm4 are working but others, as Ctrl+Alt+T and volume buttons aren't working. I'm using Xubuntu 17.10.
[15:35] <FurretUber> This happens rarely, but when happens the only option is restart the session. Is there a way to find why this happened, as a log I should search?
[15:50] <brainwash> FurretUber: probably caused by xfsettingsd getting stuck somehow
[15:51] <brainwash> FurretUber: maybe try running it in debug mode for a while https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/xfsettingsd
[15:56] <FurretUber> I think I've found when the problem happened
[15:56] <FurretUber> There is a dmesg message:
[15:56] <FurretUber> [11657.252140] usb 1-3-port4: disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling...
[15:56] <brainwash> aha
[15:56] <FurretUber> I noticed the problem after this
[15:56] <brainwash> could be
[15:57] <brainwash> try restarting xfsettingsd
[15:57] <brainwash> "xfsettingsd --replace" via terminal or alt+f2 I think
[15:58] <FurretUber> The shortcuts still aren't working
[15:59] <brainwash> odd
[16:00] <brainwash> then "XFSETTINGSD_DEBUG=1 xfsettingsd --replace --no-daemon"
[16:00] <brainwash> in a terminal window
[16:01] <zorbyt> yo
[16:02] <brainwash> FurretUber: any idea what is causing the EMI? I guess it would be best to avoid having it interfere with your hardware
[16:07] <FurretUber> The shortcuts weren't restored with the command with XFSETTINGSD_DEBUG=1. About the EMI, there is the wireless (both 2,4 and 5 GHz) from my router, the 5 GHz from the internet provider's antenna, the notebook with its wireless on on which the hub is connected. The hub is located in between the router and the notebook.
[16:09] <brainwash> ok
[16:10] <brainwash> FurretUber: any hints in the debug output?
[16:12] <FurretUber> Nothing, as the shortcuts never came back to work. I would need to restart the session to make them work again as apparently it never is restored and I would need to "trigger" the EMI problem
[16:12] <FurretUber> Give me a moment, I will restart the session
[16:14] <hans_> is the mini.iso only bootable from BIOS, not UEFI ?
[16:15] <FurretUber> Ok, I have restarted the session and the shortcuts are working. I have opened the xfsettingsd with XFSETTINGSD_DEBUG=1 xfsettingsd --replace --no-daemon
[16:15] <FurretUber> Now I should try to trigger the EMI problem
[16:22] <maret> hi I am trying to access Ubuntu virtual server through virtual console, but it stuck at https://imgur.com/t8n9QIq. Does anyone know what this means?
[16:32] <hans_> maret, let me guess, it responds to pings after that?
[16:32] <maret> hans_: what do you mean?
[16:32] <hans_> after it gets "stuck", it starts responding to pings?
[16:33] <hans_> when you write "ping ip" in a terminal
[16:36] <maret>  hans_ well I can't ping it because server is offline (but its turned on)
[16:36] <maret> its digital ocean droplet
[16:49] <Buterfly> Hi
[16:50] <Buterfly> HI!
[16:51] <Buterfly> Do you here me?
[16:51] <rohff94> hi Buterfly
[16:51] <kk4ewt> no but we can read what you type
[16:52] <garuda15> he can fly
[16:52] <rohff94> lol
[16:53] <_chll> some1 tell me bout gorgeous conky configs
[17:07] <s0pap> I need to install this package under ubuntu 17.10
[17:07] <s0pap> sedkit-env-qtwebkit
[17:07] <s0pap> but apt cannot find it
[17:09] <s0pap> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:u-szeged/sedkit it executed successfully
[17:09] <silencecm> s0pap: Is this what you're looking for https://launchpad.net/~zarvai/+archive/ubuntu/sedkit2
[17:09] <silencecm> update?
[17:09] <s0pap> I did update
[17:09] <s0pap> Err:5 http://ppa.launchpad.net/u-szeged/sedkit/ubuntu artful Release
[17:09] <s0pap>   404  Not Found
[17:10] <s0pap> I will try your ppa
[17:10] <DJones> s0pap: Looks like the ppa doesn't have a version for 17.10
[17:10] <brainwash> it looks like something which was renamed or just isn't supported anymore
[17:10] <s0pap> yep
[17:11] <brainwash> what instructions are you following?
[17:11] <s0pap> I need to fix this to build Qt
[17:11] <brainwash> "need"
[17:11] <brainwash> who or what tells you that?
[17:12] <lapion> Hmm a 32bit system can run with a 64bit kernel without a hitch
[17:12] <brainwash> s0pap: those are probably outdated instructions
[17:16] <isra> Hello! I was wondering if I could get a hand with an issue I'm having getting my wifi dongle to work with 17.10, which I just made a dual boot option. So, my wifi dongle is a Netgear A6200 and it just isn't showing up as a wifi device. I heard that I can use a thing called ndiswrapper to run parts of the driver package to get this thing to work but the only things in the zip are two .exes and an html file.
[17:17] <isra> I heard that there's supposed to be other files that i need to run with ndiswrapper so.. I can't even get to the first step. I also don't even know if I have ndiswrapper on my install yet and if I do, I have no clue how to use it.
[17:17] <isra> Could someone please help me?
[17:19] <s0pap> I'm following this: https://medium.com/@amirmann/how-to-cross-compile-qt-for-raspberry-pi-3-on-linux-ubuntu-for-beginners-75acf2a078c
[17:19] <kk4ewt> isra so what is the chipset that devices uses
[17:20] <isra> The A6200?
[17:20] <kk4ewt> yes
[17:20] <isra> I'm honestly not sure.
[17:20] <kk4ewt> google says what
[17:20] <isra> one sec
[17:20] <s0pap> those are the same instructions from qt.wiki
[17:20] <s0pap> https://wiki.qt.io/Building_Qt_5_from_Git
[17:20] <isra> looks 802.11ac
[17:21] <kk4ewt> thats is the protocol it supports not the chipset
[17:21] <RushNY> I'm about to install Ubuntu on a secondary drive with Windows 10 on the primary.  Should refind be on the W10 primary drive or Ubuntu drive?
[17:22] <isra> Still looking, kk4ewt
[17:24] <brainwash> s0pap: ok. and is that package really needed?
[17:24] <dudmir> hi]\
[17:24] <dudmir> hi all\
[17:24] <isra> Perhaps this, kk4ewt? broadcom bcm43526
[17:24] <isra> That appears to be it
[17:24] <brainwash> s0pap: this looks like some bad copypasta
[17:25] <kk4ewt> isra,  so google that with ubuntu
[17:25] <kk4ewt> ndiswrapper is the last thing you want to do now a days
[17:25] <brainwash> s0pap: the Qt site mentions that the package was needed (or rather just recommended) for older ubuntu versions
[17:25] <isra> Really? I mean... I'm willing to do whatever I need to do to get it working.
[17:27] <dunked0n> hello
[17:27] <brainwash> s0pap: other than that, I recommend asking in #qt
[17:30] <brainwash> isra: I would try this https://askubuntu.com/a/538897
[17:31] <isra> Brainwash: That requires me to already have internet connectivity on the device, which I don't without this dongle working.
[17:31] <isra> I've already seen that and I don't think it can work for me unfortunately.
[17:32] <isra> Unless... What if I tethered my phone to my desktop? Is that possible? Could I tether my nexus 6 to my desktop and have it be plug and play internet without anything else needing to be installed beforehand?
[17:32] <oerheks> isra, all wifi fixes needs a wired network connection, so work on that
[17:32] <brainwash> you obviously have to download some packages and the Windows driver
[17:32] <s0pap> brainwash, thank you
[17:43] <RushNY> Does the 16.04.3 installer image on the main site allow be to install without grub or do I need a different image for that
[17:45] <aklo> hi all. i have a problem with my graphics card and i have to boot in recovery mode and the select failsafeX for low-graphics. is there a way to always boot with low-graphics?
[17:48] <alkisg> RushNY: yes it allows it; hope you got another boot manager of course...
[18:05] <souf45> DasEi:hi
[18:05] <souf45> hi
[18:12] <imi> hi
[18:12] <imi> the screen gets locked while I use commandline mpv (/usr/bin/mpv, mpv package) is that a known bug? Can I somehow fix this?
[18:15] <RushNY> thanks alkisg
[18:15] <alkisg> np
[18:15] <brainwash> imi: which ubuntu release, and which desktop environment?
[18:31] <max__> ребят а есть какие-то боты на сервере?
[18:32] <akik> !ru
[18:35] <TheFake-VIP> #filmsbykris
[18:49] <evgeniy> Hey, my uncle is running ubuntu and has a CRT monitor, and an NVIDIA 8600 GPU. He asked me to help him with setting up his monitor to work to its maximum capabilites, which are supposed to be up to ~2000x1500 and 120Hz
[18:50] <evgeniy> i tried selecting different drivers but with none of them i can't get more than 1366x768 or 60Hz
[18:50] <evgeniy> I can't find information in the forums either
[18:52] <oerheks> 120 hrz ? you will need dual link DVI for that, iirc
[18:54] <bencc> I'm calling "ulimit -u 60000" in init.d script but it has no effect. what should I change?
[18:57] <oerheks> bencc, find your max kernel limit, cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max >> https://phpsolved.com/ubuntu-16-increase-maximum-file-open-limit-ulimit-n/
[18:57] <oerheks> and the rest to do is there too.
[18:58] <bencc> oerheks: 57884
[18:58] <bencc> oerheks: that's "ulimit -n" I'm asking about "ulimit -u"
[18:59] <thinky> hello
[18:59] <thinky> i am trying to install xampp on ubuntu 16.04 but it takes too long time
[18:59] <thinky> 133mb
[18:59] <thinky> xampp-linux-   7%[>                   ]  10.57M  1.74KB/s    eta 3h 23m
[18:59] <thinky> 3.5 hrs?
[19:00] <gordonjcp> thinky: your internet connection is incredibly slow
[19:00] <thinky> gordonjcp: it happened just for xampp
[19:01] <thinky> normally it is about 6-8mbps
[19:01] <arooni> questions about a t420 laptop battery... i was charging it all last night and even though it says 39% charged power cuts off immediately when unplugged.  i have ubuntu running on it.  q's: 1) does this mean it's shot?  2) is it possible to open up and replace the batteries within it?  3) i buy cheap amazon generic batteries but i always seem to get burned this lasted 6mos or so.  what can i do differently
[19:02] <sawdustofmind> Hello. I have strange errors when I'm trying to include one file to another. When I write something like "require './b.rb'" everything is fine, but if i writes just "require 'b.rb'" I have the following issue: /usr/lib/ruby/2.3.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb:55:in `require': cannot load such file -- b.rb (LoadError). Could you help me, please?
[19:02] <gordonjcp> thinky: is xampp installed from a PPA?  It's probably their servers
[19:02] <thinky> gordonjcp:  i used wget command
[19:02] <thinky> not ppa
[19:02] <U0X3K04B> arooni: IIRC, battery cells for t420s are easily replaceable
[19:02] <evgeniy> oerheks: and it probably is dual link
[19:06] <thinky> what s the best code writing software for ubuntu?
[19:07] <evgeniy> thinky: that's personal choice
[19:07] <thinky> evgeniy: i wanna know what ppl generally use?
[19:09] <dreamcat4> thinky: well sublime text is a pretty popular choice
[19:09] <dreamcat4> that is what i use anyhow
[19:10] <U0X3K04B> thinky: it's largely subjective, but I would recommend learning vim
[19:10] <thinky> hmm
[19:10] <thinky> what about emacs?
[19:10] <dreamcat4> but if you are writing in a specific language like 'java' then you might want to use something else instead. like the 'eclipse' ide
[19:10] <dreamcat4> i used to use emacs a long time ago
[19:10] <dreamcat4> it's very different from other editors
[19:11] <dreamcat4> it has its charms
[19:11] <thinky> i will mostly use for html css
[19:11] <U0X3K04B> thinky: bottom line is, if you're looking for easy adoption, use on of the graphical ones (eg. atom, sublime etc.)
[19:11] <dreamcat4> then you probably do want to use something like sublime, or atom, or the adobe one
[19:11] <thinky> i want simple one
[19:11] <thinky> adobe? O.o
[19:11] <U0X3K04B> thinky: if you don't mind spending some time learning (which will prob accelerate workflow in the long run), use a command line editor like Vim
[19:11] <dreamcat4> i recommend sublime text 3 for web development
[19:12] <thinky> what adobe made as editor?
[19:12] <U0X3K04B> thinky: you could turn it into a full blown IDE with plugins
[19:12] <dreamcat4> because for performance reasons the atom and adobe ones aren't as fast
[19:12] <dreamcat4> atom is a dog
[19:12] <thinky> hmm
[19:12] <U0X3K04B> dreamcat4: atom is written using electron, that's why :)
[19:14] <gordonjcp> thinky: I use vim, mostly
[19:14] <thinky> i wish i can use too :p
[19:14] <dreamcat4> theres nothing wrong with even a basic editor, if it supports syntax highlighting
[19:14] <dreamcat4> like nano
[19:15] <dreamcat4> they just aren't so 'fancy' with other creature comforts
[19:15] <gordonjcp> vim has syntax highlighting and tabs
[19:15] <gordonjcp> and you can run pep8 in it
[19:15] <U0X3K04B> nano is nowhere as functionally advanced as some of the other options out there...
[19:16] <hl521> o7 was there an update recently that causes boot to fail?
[19:16] <dreamcat4> yeah. also its worth thinking about web-dev needing to edit multiple files
[19:16] <dreamcat4> strewn around in different subfolders
[19:16] <dreamcat4> so jumping around a lot between 2-3 files
[19:16] <dreamcat4> back and forth
[19:16] <hl521> because my friend has her laptop that is currently not letting her boot in to desktop, and the CLI won't let her type anything in ther terminal
[19:16] <U0X3K04B> vim has a plugin known as nerdtree, could be helpful to you, thinky
[19:17] <thinky> is there any document to see all ubuntu commands for 16.04 ?
[19:17] <dreamcat4> err... no. but you can use [tab] completion in bash
[19:17] <U0X3K04B> thinky: dont think so
[19:17] <dreamcat4> just press TAB in the terminal
[19:17] <U0X3K04B> unless you're talking about ubuntu-specific commands, then maybe
[19:18] <dreamcat4> its not gonna show you stuff unless its on your PATH though. like if /sbin isnt on your PATH (as non-admin user)
[19:19] <thinky> a lot of things to learn :S
[19:19] <thinky> i know little of everything
[19:41] <Jakethepython> hello room, i have a question about basic setup. I have a VPN setup and a samba share on my server, I only want certain people to be able to get to the samba shares, should i set that up as local users/groups on the Server or should i use more of a DNS structer
[19:43] <luxio> There's a game that when I play on Windows is fine, but when I play it on Ubuntu (Artful) the performance is terrible.
[19:43] <luxio> Is this just because Wayland?
[19:45] <brainwash> luxio: can't you just test it? switching to the Xorg session is possible from the login screen
[19:51] <texla> !man kodi
[19:52] <jeremies> When you execute "sudo apt install" the package manager checks if there are partially installed packages (like one that was installing and suddenly the system rebooted and broke the installation) and warns you?
[19:57] <luxio> The game performs poorly on both Xorg and Wayland
[19:58] <luxio> It's a bit better on Xorg but when I move the cursor outside of the game or use any other application it's slow
[20:00] <luxio> now it's just performing poorly altogether
[20:01] <U0X3K04B> guys, what's the complete story beinh 17.10 being no long available for dl?
[20:01] <U0X3K04B> behind*
[20:01] <U0X3K04B> longer*
[20:01] <luxio> what can I do to improve performance on Ubuntu?
[20:06] <qwer7y> testing
[20:07] <bonelifer> U0X3K04B: certain laptop bios were being nuked by it.
[20:07] <bonelifer> U0X3K04B: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/12/21/ubuntu_lenovo_bios/
[20:08] <Kon-> It was a bug with a specific company's implementation of Intel's SPI driver in their UEFI
[20:08] <Kon-> It actually had nothing to do with Ubuntu
[20:09] <Kon-> But since Ubuntu could trigger the bug, they pulled it. Kernel has already been patched to avoid the issue
[20:09] <Kon-> U0X3K04B,
[20:12] <Jakethepython> if i do a groupadd it is not apearing in groups
[20:12] <ioria> Kon-, patched in the current <IP_ADDRESS>.22 ?
[20:12] <Kon-> ioria, I'm not sure about that, actually. I think it's upstream
[20:13] <ioria> Kon-, ah, ok
[20:13] <hans_> the ubuntu netinst is telling me "This machine's firmware has started the installer in UEFI mode but it looks like there may be existing operating systems already installed using "BIOS compatibility mode". if you continue to install Debian in UEFI mode, it might be difficult to reboot the machine into any BIOS.mode operating system later. ~~
[20:13] <hans_> see the bug there? :p
[20:13] <hans_> (16.04.2 netinst mini.iso )
[20:14] <ioria> hans_, mini.iso has no uefi  implementation, afaik
[20:16] <hans_> ioria, well, i just managed to boot the mini.iso in UEFI over a dd'ed mini.iso usb
[20:16] <ioria> hans_, gl with that
[20:16] <brainwash> luxio: depends on the hardware you got. like, a nvidia gpu may run better with the closed source driver
[20:16] <thinky> how can i cancel ongoing download in terminal?
[20:17] <brainwash> luxio: and it heavily depends on the game. some games just aren't optimized for linux
[20:17] <brainwash> thinky: ctrl + c
[20:18] <thinky> thanx brainwash
[20:18] <thinky> damn couldnt download xampp for hours
[20:18] <vivekananda> Hi everyone. What is the program to create multiboot usb (for windows and linux and hiren's etc) for ubuntu 16.04 ?
[20:24] <BenderRodriguez> I need help
[20:24] <BenderRodriguez> I'm hitting the dbus/ssytemd bug
[20:24] <BenderRodriguez> where logind crashes for some reason and ssh/pam logins take a very long time
[20:24] <BenderRodriguez> are there any workarounds for this?
[20:26] <brainwash> BenderRodriguez: link to the bug report?
[20:26] <hans_> ioria, seems to work fine. also everything about legacy/bios/csm is disabled in bios
[20:26] <hans_> settings
[20:26] <ioria> hans_, can you paste sudo parted -l ?
[20:27] <BenderRodriguez> brainwash: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=793814
[20:27] <BenderRodriguez> brainwash: possibly this one too https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1591411
[20:27] <hans_> ioria, not now, currently its busy downloading setup files, but once setup is complete and it asks me to reboot, ill drop into shell before rebooting and doing it
[20:27] <hans_> do it*
[20:27] <ioria> ok
[20:27] <hans_> also i think the setup minimal shell doesn't have parted :(
[20:28] <BenderRodriguez> brainwash: there are duplicates of these symptoms everywhere  if you look
[20:28] <hans_> but ill try anyway, i might be wrong
[20:28] <BenderRodriguez> brainwash: I'm not sure if there's a "master" bug report on this
[20:28] <hans_> well, maybe the full setup iso have parted, but i think the netinst doesnt
[20:28] <brainwash> BenderRodriguez: probably https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/1961
[20:29] <ioria> hans_, for reference : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD#mini_system_in_UEFI_mode
[20:29] <hans_> wtf
[20:29] <hans_> how did i manage to boot this thing then
[20:29] <brainwash> BenderRodriguez: so, which ubuntu release do you use? according to the launchpad report, the issue should be fixed in supported releases
[20:30] <vivekananda> any recommendations ?
[20:33] <raidghost> Did install ubuntu server with hwe kernel. After install the Ethernet card on the mainboard was Gone no info at all in ubuntu
[20:33] <raidghost> all i\ve got was localhost, checked lspci no card detected. So i find it weird
[20:33] <hans_> ioria, gotdammit, seems you're right, i could finish the installation, but the UEFI doesn't recognize the disk as bootable x.x
[20:33] <ioria> hans_, if you ask me, i's go with CSM bios
[20:34] <raidghost> UEFi made by hell itself
[20:34] <ioria> hans_, unless you have Win in efi mode
[20:34] <raidghost> Winblows can sail its own sea
[20:34] <hans_> ioria, unfortunately i require an UEFI install, this is a crypto mining rig with 12 PCIe express slots, it supports up to 6 PCI slots in CSM Bios mode, and 12 slots in UEFI mode (idk why), but thus i must use UEFI
[20:35] <ioria> hans_, sy for asking, why are you using mini.iso and not the regualr server/desktop iso ?
[20:36] <brainwash> vivekananda: maybe easy2boot
[20:36] <hans_> ioria, because i didn't know that the mini.iso didn't support uefi and i thought it would save me from doing an upgrade post-installation
[20:36] <brainwash> vivekananda: that's what I would test (it's a cli application)
[20:36] <ioria> hans_,  just select 'download updates while installing'
[20:36] <vivekananda> brainwash, thanks but what is the soft in the ubuntu 16 official repo for it. It was something called roke or something right ?
[20:37] <brainwash> roke... mmh
[20:37] <ioria> raidghost, 'Ethernet card on the mainboard was Gone' ?
[20:38] <BenderRodriguez> brainwash: I'm on Ubuntu 16.04.3
[20:38] <BenderRodriguez> LTS
[20:38] <BenderRodriguez> so this is a problem -- it's already addressed in systemd
[20:38] <BenderRodriguez> so I either need to upgrade to a non LTS version (which is impossible, this is a server)
[20:38] <BenderRodriguez> or I can try to upgrade systemd
[20:38] <hans_> ioria, (but for the record, generally i concur, just use bios, unless you need to play with windows x.x)
[20:38] <BenderRodriguez> which is equally dangerous
[20:39] <BenderRodriguez> brainwash: =*
[20:39] <brainwash> BenderRodriguez: doesn't the launchpad report state that it was fixed in dbus, and not systemd?
[20:40] <ioria> hans_, efi is good (nowdays) just not with mini.iso ... that's all
[20:40] <BenderRodriguez> #1591411?
[20:40] <SSD-newbie> i am at the partitioning stage of my 256GB M.2 SATA SDD, my partition table is as follows: 1.0MB FREE SPACE (at the beginning of the SDD), 536MB  ESP (bootable), 21GB / ext4 , 190.5GB /home ext4, 44GB FREE (unpartitioned) SPACE (at the end of the SSD)
[20:40] <SSD-newbie> Is that partitioning setup ok? Am i leaving too much (unpartitioned) free space on the 256GB SSD?
[20:40] <BenderRodriguez> the last note shows it continues to be unresolved on xenial, brainwash
[20:40] <brainwash> BenderRodriguez: yes. sorry, I can't read through all the comments and infos
[20:40] <BenderRodriguez> and of course, I continue to experience the bugs so It's definitely still there :P
[20:41] <U0X3K04B> SSD_newbie: are you having a single OS setup?
[20:41] <U0X3K04B> SSD-newbie*
[20:41] <brainwash> BenderRodriguez: then you should open a new bug report, and add a reference to the old one
[20:41] <SSD-newbie> I have not created a swap partition because I have 8GB RAM and will not perform memory intensive tasks like video editing. I will NOT dual boot
[20:42] <U0X3K04B> SSD-newbie: is there a reason why you don't wanna go thru with automatic partitioning?
[20:42] <SSD-newbie> i want flexibility
[20:43] <brainwash> BenderRodriguez: ideally, you should get the attention of the devs
[20:43] <U0X3K04B> SSD-newbie: seem fine to me, if you don't need that much free space then you can dedicate the remaining to / or /home, up to you
[20:43] <U0X3K04B> SSD-newbie: and make sure GRUB is installed to the correct partition
[20:44] <SSD-newbie> Remember, do you run GNU/Linux as your sole OS on a SSD?
[20:45] <U0X3K04B> SSD-newbie: I don't know if you're talking to me, but I do
[20:45] <SSD-newbie> Do you leave FREE (unpartitioned) SPACE (at the end of the SSD)? If you do, what percentage?
[20:45] <U0X3K04B> SSD-newbie: I don't
[20:46] <SSD-newbie> U0X3K04B, ok thanks
[20:49] <vivekananda> brainwash, I remembered the name. It is rufus
[20:52] <brainwash> vivekananda: that's a Windows application, isn't?
[20:54] <U0X3K04B> brainwash: forgive the interjection, but it is
[20:54] <vivekananda> brainwash, ah ok I thought it was for linux too
[20:54] <U0X3K04B> vivekanada: you can just use the dd utility to quickly create images on a nix system
[20:54] <vivekananda> so I guess I am left with trying the other options. Wonder which one is the most versatile and recommended. you said easy2boot so will look at that
[20:55] <brainwash> google returns "Yumi" also
[20:55] <vivekananda> U0X3K04B, hmmm but I don't know the ins and outs of using dd to create a multiboot usb with windows and linux and hiren's and able to boot into any of them live on usb and try them out
[20:56] <vivekananda> I am sure dd can help but not sure of the procedure to get all of this working in a usb
[20:56] <vivekananda> brainwash, yep yumi is there but I guess it is older and incompatible with some iso setc
[20:57] <U0X3K04B> vivekananda: I suppose you can look into yumi
[20:57] <hans_> the ubuntu installer wont let me set the boot flag on an uefi installation.. is that normal?
[20:57] <U0X3K04B> I've never attempted multiboot using dd
[20:58] <Bashing-om> vivekananda: Of interest : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958073 ?
[20:58] <hans_> ohhh dam
[20:58] <hans_> in UEFI, i *MUST* have a /boot partition?
[20:59] <hans_> that's what a quick google search implied
[20:59] <vivekananda> Btw everyone, is there a linux method I can use to create a multiboot cd but later can add / delete isos from it using windows ? Any such versatile software ?
[21:00] <U0X3K04B> hans_: I believe you need an ESP partition
[21:05] <hans_> how big should the ESP partition be?
[21:06] <hans_> ioria, the server edition doesn't have an option for "download updates while installing", apparently
[21:07] <U0X3K04B> hans_: recommended size is 550mb, but i typically leave it at 128
[21:07] <hans_> ioria, (the Xubuntu and Lubuntu desktop editions do, tho)
[21:07] <U0X3K04B> hans_: the arch wiki is a fantastic resource for this, check it out
[21:08] <hans_> why the f does it need so much space
[21:08] <hans_> im running on a small ssd here x.x
[21:09] <hans_> is it storking kernels in there or something?
[21:10] <alkisg> If you're going to install another OS like windows, it'll need some extra space.If not, it just puts grub there, so it doesn't need to be big
[21:10] <U0X3K04B> hans_: IIRC i got away with 2MB, rmb to format it as vfat
[21:10] <hans_> kk
[21:11] <alkisg> 3,4M	/boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/
[21:12] <Neo1> ll
[21:12] <Neo1> who know channel of ubuntu server?
[21:12] <Neo1> thsi #ubuntu-server is empty
[21:13] <Neo1> I now trying customize php
[21:13] <U0X3K04B> Neo1: try doing /msg alis list ubuntu-server
[21:14] <dreamcat4> i have a 200MB efi partition + a 500MB /boot partition
[21:14] <Neo1> and notice in ubuntu and notice there all configs are stored in /etc/
[21:14] <Neo1> for php /etc/php/php5.6
[21:14] <U0X3K04B> Neo1: ubuntu-server is a valid channel, but you need to have a registered nick
[21:14] <Neo1> apache is also here
[21:15] <dreamcat4> (thats on 128GB boot drive)
[21:15] <Neo1> U0X3K04B: ok
[21:15] <dreamcat4> by comparison other OSes like windows and MacOS usually have a 500MB - 700MB recovery partition
[21:16] <Neo1> dreamcat4: I put for windows 10Gb, it depends how much you allocate
[21:16] <dreamcat4> thats only for the recovery partition
[21:17] <dreamcat4> windows decides the size of it for you
[21:17] <Neo1> dreamcat4: no, there you choose in % how much you want allocate
[21:17] <dreamcat4> also i have only 3GB swap (for 16GB ram).... its just enough to run out of memory, and then have enough time to do something about it
[21:18] <Neo1> dreamcat4: and all othere recovery points will rewrite existing 5Gb will less points
[21:18] <U0X3K04B> dreamcat: tbf you can prob ditch swap unless you intend to hibernate
[21:18] <Neo1> dreamcat4: 16Gb on ubuntu not exists apps that can feed all that RAM )
[21:19] <dreamcat4> okay most people dont increase the size of their recovery parition in windows... they leave it at the default size
[21:19] <dreamcat4> and theres not much reason to increase it
[21:19] <Neo1> dreamcat4: default it off
[21:19] <Neo1> dreamcat4: after install windows you should manually tunr on it
[21:21] <dreamcat4> you just said yours was 10GB, now you're saying to turn it off.
[21:21] <dreamcat4> utter nonsense
[21:21] <Neo1> dreamcat4: don't forget to do it, after you have trouble you can load in safe mode and easy roll back your windows and everything will work welll
[21:21] <Neo1> dreamcat4: 10% now it's probably less, I don't know
[21:22] <Neo1> dreamcat4: default in windows it is turned off
[21:22] <dreamcat4> you dont seem to know much, but insist on a lot of stuff without giving any reasonable explanation
[21:22] <Neo1> dreamcat4: :)
[21:23] <Neo1> it's only seem so, inside I have very deep knowledge about the world :)
[21:45] <NegativeFlare> Alright
[21:51] <bencc> how can I install on ubuntu 16.04 a package from 18.04?
[21:52] <alkisg> bencc: normally, you can't. If you really need to, and if the dependencies are satisfiable, you could download it from the ubuntu site. Which package?
[21:53] <alkisg> E.g. http://packages.ubuntu.com/htop
[21:53] <bencc1> alkisg: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/coturn
[21:54] <bencc1> alkisg: the deps are exactly the same
[21:54] <bencc1> alkisg: how can I download it?
[21:55] <alkisg> bencc1, no, they're not
[21:55] <alkisg> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libevent
[21:55] <alkisg> libevent-2.1-6 doesn't exist in xenial
[21:56] <bencc1> alkisg: ok, so it isn't possible
[21:56] <alkisg> So it would be best to find a PPA or something that has a backported version along with all the dependencies
[21:56] <alkisg> It is; it's just not as easy as download/install. You could add bionic to your sources with low priority, or you could copy/recompile from bionic to a xenial ppa etc
[21:57] <alkisg> It needs a bit more knowledge about packages than just download/install
[22:00] <blazeme8> when i install the proprietary Nvidia driver on 17.10, my graphical performance gets *worse*. What could be wrong?
[22:32] <orbisvicis> should I be able to use virtio vga to boot recent ubuntu images in qemu ?
[22:46] <newnicknamedavid> test! dows this work?
[22:48] <zacts> hi
[22:48] <newnicknamedavid> hi
[22:48] <zacts> where can I ask about 18.04 Bionic Beaver?
[22:48] <newnicknamedavid> great! it works..
[22:48] <Bashing-om> !18.04 | zacts
[22:49] <zacts> thanks
[22:49] <Bashing-om> zacts: np :)
[22:59] <nmide> hi, has anyone had issues with newer kernels breaking KVM? (module not found, x86_64 directory missing from kernel/arch/)
[23:00] <nmide>  /quit !
[23:08] <MOZGIII> Hi, is there a way for me to backport targetcli-fb package to xenial?
[23:14] <brainwash> MOZGIII: I would try it with http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/backportpackage.1.html
[23:15] <MOZGIII> brainwash, thanks
[23:15] <raidghost> brainwash: Any reason why ubuntu 16.04 removes ethernet card drivers just by itself
[23:15] <raidghost> Without asking me first?
[23:15] <brainwash> raidghost: got any log snippets?
[23:16] <raidghost> are you allowing facebook jpg pictureS?
[23:16] <brainwash> probably
[23:16] <raidghost> https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t35.0-12/26238666_10159806141105652_1879481672_o.jpg?oh=a325bf70c5cff275bd43dd2f8a96952c&oe=5A4D1F67
[23:17] <raidghost> This message showed up. And i figured out that all i did see with ifconfig was localhost
[23:17] <brainwash> is that really related?
[23:18] <raidghost> The only thing i can see might have happend is that kernel has been upgraded, and then hwe kernel has been removed
[23:18] <brainwash> you can check the system log via the "journalctl" command
[23:19] <raidghost> brainwash: not possible to check, since what i posted on the facebook link, is where the system stopps
[23:20] <brainwash> can you boot with a different kernel version (from the grub boot screen)?
[23:20] <raidghost> Not seeing the grub boot screen
[23:20] <raidghost> Not showing
[23:21] <brainwash> keep pressing Shift
[23:21] <raidghost> hmmmm.. I will try that. Thanks. Now bedtime;)
[23:22] <brainwash> good luck then
[23:22] <Bashing-om> raidghost: EFI system it is the escape key grub looks for .
[23:32] <raidghost> Bashing-om: Got the system up after some luck
[23:32] <raidghost> The ethernet card controller: Qualcomm Atheros Device e0b1 (rev 10)
[23:32] <raidghost> is not driver for . and i find it weird
[23:32] <raidghost> cause i have not been removing any drivers
[23:35] <Bashing-om> raidghost: Kinda weak in networking . but what shows ' sudo lshw -C network '
[23:35] <raidghost> Bashing-om: one moment.
[23:36] <Dr_Stupid> trollface
[23:36] <raidghost> Bashing-om: can i take a picture on the monitor and fb jpg it to you+
[23:37] <Bashing-om> raidghost: I prefer to work from text // try as ' sudo lshw -C network | nc termbin.com 9999 ' .
[23:37] <raidghost> Bashing-om: seems like the ethernet card has changed logical name
[23:37] <raidghost> gonna try use what i found in your lovely syntax and see if that helps ;)
[23:38] <Bashing-om> raidghost: 16.04 systemd it will no longer be ethX.
[23:39] <raidghost> Bashing-om: i know. the ethernet was named something else
[23:39] <raidghost> was named ep9s0
[23:39] <raidghost> but now its enp12s0
[23:39] <raidghost> i wonder why ubuntu changed that
[23:40] <Bashing-om> raidghost: Not supposed to change . Getting above my skill level here .
[23:40] <raidghost> Bashing-om: iT WORKS!
[23:40] <raidghost> thanks man. You've been kind!
[23:41] <U0X3K04B> raidghost: it's fairly easy to interpret..it means ethernet pci bus 12 slot 0
[23:41] <Bashing-om> raidghost: I did nothing to effect .. netwoking workie now ?
[23:44] <raidghost> Bashing-om: Network working now
[23:44] <raidghost> U0X3K04B: Why did it change then
[23:44] <raidghost> allways been ep9s0 (mainboard ethernet)
[23:44] <raidghost> now its enp12s0
[23:45] <raidghost> Hopefully i can FORCE it to keep its logical name
[23:51] <Bashing-om> raidghost: Depemds on the port you hook up ?? my box with 3 NICs 1 active : http://termbin.com/gbch .
[23:53] <raidghost> Bashing-om: Just one ethernet card


[20:24] <daftykins> greetings friends, 1/12th of 2023 is almost down!
[20:24] <daftykins> wow Craig Charles on a TV computer game show - https://www.twitch.tv/oldtimeycomputershow
[20:25] <daftykins> at least he did an intro a moment ago...
[20:26] <daftykins> wow shaven head
[20:38] <zxmpi> according to https://covidstandardtime.com/ Today is Tuesday, March 1066th, 2020.
[20:40] <daftykins> ooh
[20:42] <zxmpi> i think they're wrong on the day as it's blursday
[20:43] <daftykins> you'll have to dock some points for that
[20:43] <daftykins> https://imgur.com/gallery/RKuQ0on