[00:01] <PSiL0> noren: you might want to reset alsa if you are running intrepid ibex... here's the command: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[00:02] <PSiL0> make sure you quit whatever media program you were running
[00:04] <azl3> gracias :)
[00:05] <noren> psilo: my amarok is working fine.. but the media player has only vid no audio..
[00:11] <noren> psilo: my amarok is working fine.. but the media player has only vid no audio..
[00:12] <drostie> :-D the person who asked me to paste my /boot/grub/menu.lst file was a genius. ^_^
[00:13] <solifugus> What are people doing to get openoffice 3 ??    Is there a(n) (k)ubuntu package somewhere?
[00:13] <dutler> drostie: as apose to the grub.conf ? sorry about that :)
[00:13] <solifugus> because you couldn't seriously be using version 2.4
[00:14] <ibuffy> genii: so what do you think would fix this?
[00:15] <solifugus> :)-:-<     <-- ascii p0rn
[00:15] <genii> ibuffy: I think you'll need to manually note each dependency version and explitly install them with the sudo apt-get install packagename=1.2.version     type syntax
[00:15] <ibuffy> here's my sources.list: http://dpaste.com/121932/
[00:15] <drostie> solifugus: the package openoffice.org-wrier, at least in my version, claims a version number of 1:3.0.1-1ubuntu1.
[00:15] <drostie> *openoffice.org-writer
[00:15] <ibuffy> genii: i have no clue how to do that :\
[00:16] <solifugus> really?  ok.. the splash screen says 2.4 for me.. i will go check the about dialog
[00:17] <genii> ibuffy: eg: you try to install for instance "abcd" and it groans "abcd requires wxyz version xxxx"    so you sudo apt-get install wxyz=xxxx
[00:17] <solifugus> drostie: it says 2.4.... maybe you are getting experimental packages?
[00:17] <genii> ibuffy: Until all the dep versions are what the main package you are trying to install are met
[00:20] <drostie> solifugus: in a manner of speaking, it appears so. According to packages.ubuntu.com, jaunty is on 3.0 while intrepid is on 2.4. I'm on jaunty; I'm guessing you're on intrepid.
[00:20] <noren> psilo: my amarok is working fine.. but the media player has only vid no audio..
[00:20] <noren> its late here i will try fix it tomorrow
[00:21] <solifugus> drostie: I depend on this machine and so wanted everything stable..  oo.o 3 has been out for so long though..
[00:25] <drostie> solifugus: I can imagine. Linux .debs are available from openoffice.org (the site) directly. You can download one of them and install directly via http://download.openoffice.org/other.html#en-US .
[00:25] <drostie> But there's probably someone in charge of the packages who should be told to wake up. ^_^
[00:26] <ibuffy> genii, what exactly does this mean: "Depends: koffice-data-kde4 (>= 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1~intrepid1)"
[00:26] <dutler> drostie: the choice not to support ooo3 on 8.10 was made... its not afrom asomeone slacking
[00:26] <ibuffy> i need to install koffice-data-kde4 v.<IP_ADDRESS>.5?
[00:27] <drostie> dutler: ah, k.
[00:27] <genii> ibuffy: That means the package you are currently trying to install requires koffice-data-kde4 specific version of 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 as a prerequisite
[00:27] <darksmoke> Tm_T: wtf did you see me use a public away msg?
[00:28] <drostie> ibuffy: you can also type "aptitude show koffice-data-kde4" to find out more about that package.
[00:28] <ibuffy> genii: but we've already tried installing koffice-data-kde4=1:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1~intrepid1
[00:29] <genii> ibuffy: What installed version of it does:  apt-cache policy koffice-data-kde4                report?
[00:29] <genii> (if any)
[00:29] <ibuffy> i already pasted the info... one sec...
[00:30] <ibuffy> http://dpaste.com/121938/
[00:30] <ibuffy> genii: maybe i didn't, but i did use the command once before :0
[00:30] <ibuffy> :) **
[00:30]  * DS-Away is away: Not Here
[00:30]  * DS-Away is back.
[00:30] <ibuffy> that was quick
[00:35] <drostie> ibuffy: can I help in any way? (I joined after you described the problem, sadly. :-/)
[00:36] <genii> ibuffy: Ok, what says result of: ls /var/cahe/apt/archives/koffice-data-kde4*             ? We can use dpkg instead of apt-get to force overwrite of another packages pre-existing files if we have the full .deb filename
[00:37] <genii> ls /var/cache/apt/archives/koffice-data-kde4*                                rather (typo on "cache")
[00:39] <ibuffy> genii: /var/cache/apt/archives/koffice-data-kde4_1%3a<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1~intrepid1_all.deb
[00:39] <ibuffy> drostie: maybe
[00:39] <ibuffy> here's the problem: http://dpaste.com/121859/
[00:41] <ibuffy> drostie: and here's all the pastebin links:  http://dpaste.com/121863/   http://dpaste.com/121868/   http://dpaste.com/121877/   http://dpaste.com/121882/   http://dpaste.com/121932/
[00:41] <ibuffy> (after the first)
[00:41] <drostie> ibuffy: and you can't just mv /usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/actions/object-order-back.png /tmp, so that the file isn't there and can be gracefully overwritten?
[00:41] <ibuffy> drostie: haven't tried it.. one sec
[00:42] <drostie> (of course, restore the file from /tmp if this fails. ^_^)
[00:42] <genii> ibuffy: So to try:    sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/koffice-data-kde4_1%3a<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1~intrepid1_all.deb
[00:43] <genii> drostie: moving the file somewhere probably won't affect that the packaging system thinks the file belongs to a certain other package
[00:43] <christopher_> can anyone help with random freezes. i think it has somthing to do with my radeon card. i'm using the open source drivers that came with kubuntu.
[00:45] <christopher_> anyone have any ideas?
[00:45] <ibuffy> drostie: i still have the same error after doing that :| http://dpaste.com/121943/
[00:45] <drostie> genii: ah. Makes sense. I just had the idea because it complains about "trying to overwrite" the file. But if it still complains, that's probably why. ^_^
[00:45] <ibuffy> genii: one sec, will do
[00:46] <solifugus> ok.. I have a directory full of .deb files (openoffice 3.0.1)--how can I install them?
[00:46] <solifugus> The readme doesn't say
[00:47] <drostie> christopher_: that's, er, a rather broad question. Are there proprietary drivers that K > Applications > System > Hardware Drivers tells you to use instead?
[00:47] <lacitcarp> hi - learning the basics. I've created a new user and set the password. su [newuser] authenticates but doesn't seem to have an effect - whoami still returns the previous user. am I misunderstanding something?
[00:47] <drostie> solifugus: try clicking or double-clicking them in Dolphin. ;-)
[00:48] <ibuffy> genii: and then try installing koffice-kde4?
[00:48] <ibuffy> just did that and....
[00:48] <ibuffy> i think it worked
[00:48] <solifugus> drostie: yeah.... been doing that.. each says it needs another.. but I finally found one that looks like it's the bottom of the dependency tree..
[00:48] <ibuffy> IT WORKED!
[00:49] <genii> ibuffy: Yes, the specific version with the   name=1.2.versioname       way I showed earlier
[00:49] <ibuffy> wow, what was that voodoo?
[00:49] <pharo> has anyone tried kdevelop4 (3.9.91-0ubuntu2~intrepid1~ppa1)? I'm getting a segfault while trying to create a new project... trying to figure out if it's a known issue or if something is wrong with my setup
[00:49] <genii> ibuffy: Hehe, almost voodo. but basically just going straight to dpkg for the overwriting option not found in the apt-get way
[00:49] <ibuffy> genii: i didn't use the specific version, i just install koffice-kde4
[00:50] <ibuffy> i see
[00:50] <drostie> lacitcarp: the "man su" command suggests that you need to su -l [newuser] if you want to create an environment similar to that of a newly logged-in person.
[00:50] <ibuffy> genii: can't think you enough, that has been bothering me for awhile
[00:50] <genii> Yes, the -l    is  same as "simulate login"
[00:51] <genii> ibuffy: You're welcome
[00:51] <drostie> pharo: I haven't tried it yet. Have you checked launchpad and/or tried to report the bug?
[00:51] <Ch1ppy> Hey, is anyone else having trouble connecting to MSN via Kopete most of the time?
[00:52] <ibuffy> Ch1ppy: nope
[00:52] <Ch1ppy> Odd. I can't connect at all right now and I have no idea why... :S
[00:52] <lacitcarp> drostie, genii: that did not seem to have any effect on the behavior without -l.  whoami still returns prior user, and bash cmd prompt contains old username
[00:53] <ibuffy> Ch1ppy: i don't connect to msn often since two weeks ago when i needed it.
[00:54] <ibuffy> Ch1ppy: and i can't connect now, their IM server might be having problems temporarily
[00:54] <Ch1ppy> ibuffy: It's been happening 90% of the time for the last week or two. aMSN and other clients have no trouble connecting...
[00:55] <ibuffy> oh, so this may be a persistant problem w/ kopete and msn after all
[00:55] <Ch1ppy> That's my thinking, yep
[00:56] <solifugus> drostie: still installing .deb dependencies as I get errors to tell me what they are.. one by one..  very tedious..
[00:56] <drostie> lacitcarp: I don't know how you're doing it, but when I [sudo adduser reggae] and then [su -l reggae], whoami returns "reggae" until I [exit].
[00:57] <lacitcarp> hi all I figured out what I had done wrong.  the new user's shell was set to /bin/false rather than /bin/bash
[00:57] <lacitcarp> thanks for your help
[00:57] <christopher_> there are no propietry drivers installed
[00:58] <GWild> hello
[00:59] <christopher_> drostie: there are no propietry drivers installed
[00:59] <drostie> solifugus: if you're familiar with text consoles, you might be able to tell dpkg to install multiple .debs. I don't know whether dpkg -i supports multiple files, but I have the feeling it does. In which case, bash should auto-expand "sudo dpkg -i *" for you in the right way.
[01:00] <solifugus> just don't know how that works..
[01:01] <solifugus> need to learn some things... debian docs are very long winded, too
[01:02] <genii> drostie: dpkg accepts wildcards
[01:03] <christopher_> i just can't seem to find the root to these random hangs
[01:03] <drostie> solifugus: just open a konsole (Alt-F2, type "Konsole") and then [cd ~/Documents/Oo.o_____] or wherever you put the folder with the extracted .debs in it.
[01:04] <drostie> make sure there's nothing but .debs in that folder, then [sudo dpkg -i *] to install all of them at once. dpkg should be able to figure out the tree on its own.
[01:05] <drostie> christopher_: what sort of hangs are they. What is happening when they occur? How long do they occur? does the system eventually stabilize? What happens if you try to Ctrl-Alt-F1 into a TTY when one is occurring?
[01:06] <drostie> that's where I'd start, at least, in trying to find the root of the problem.
[01:06] <christopher_> drostie: it completely hands, alt-f1 does nothing, the system never stabilizes, they seem to occur more often in graphically intense areas. they happen completely randomly, so it could happen once a day or 3 times in an hour.
[01:07] <drostie> Alt-F1?
[01:08] <christopher_> drostie: Alt F1 doesn't respond
[01:08] <drostie> christopher_: I know, but why are you trying the keypress that opens the K-menu? Ctrl-Alt-F1 is very different, and useful if, say, X crashes.
[01:09] <christopher_> drostie: sorry that's what i ment ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't do anything
[01:11] <drostie> christopher_: ah, k. Sorry if my question was simple-minded. I assume the xserver-xorg-video-ati package is installed and up-to-date?
[01:12] <christopher_> drostie: i think so, how can i check it?
[01:12] <kubuntu_> Help!
[01:12] <kubuntu_> i need to play an m4a on my newly installed kubuntu am a newbie
[01:13] <kubuntu_> but my music files won't play even after using the sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras command
[01:13] <drostie> christopher_: [sudo apt-get update] and then [sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati]. If it updates, then you didn't have those installed.
[01:13] <kubuntu_> Hello!
[01:14] <kubuntu_> i need help!
[01:14] <Ch1ppy> kubuntu_: Be patient!
[01:14] <sille> need help with auto mounting usb externaldrives.  they used to automatically be seen and then automount.  Since soem recent changes this no longer occurs. now,
[01:14] <christopher_> drostie: yup all up-to-date
[01:16] <drostie> christopher_: can you bear to try uninstalling them? Your computer will probably then default to some non-optimized driver, and you'll know whether the video drivers were, in fact, the problem.
[01:16] <christopher_> drostie: ok ill give it a shot. how sure are you that it'll help?
[01:17] <drostie> kubuntu_: what exactly happens when you try to open an .m4a in Amarok?
[01:17] <christopher_> kubuntu_: try opening up a console and typeing : "apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[01:18] <drostie> christopher_: I have no idea. The only source I have for the thought that the video driver is at fault is your hunch. But it probably won't hurt.
[01:18] <christopher_> drostie: ok ill try it
[01:18] <kubuntu_> i have done that  christopher
[01:19] <kubuntu_>  but my amarok player is not playing
[01:19] <drostie> christopher_: well, I should be more precise: it probably *will* hurt your video performance, but it will hopefully also give you a better idea of the problem.
[01:19] <kubuntu_> the m4a format and i still need to get limewire in on this new OS i just installed
[01:20] <muxomor_> Hi, i ve got such problem: can't mount mp3player via usb. It is on fat, schould be recognized as /dev/sd*, but it says device not found. Automounting or dialog window doesnt appear, in dmesg -  usb 1-2.2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 51
[01:21] <drostie> kubuntu_: when you say "not playing," what exactly do you mean? Does it not start? Does it start, and not play the file? Does it play the file but no sound comes out of the speakers?
[01:21] <muxomor_> what i wish toknow, is how to make it mountable as a disk, on /media/sdb
[01:22] <drostie> sille: what were the "recent changes"...?
[01:22] <sille> 1. transferedimage to new hd
[01:23] <sille> 2 had to reset all orig mounted disks as they were never set up correctyl.
[01:23] <sille> internal hd partitions are now correctly automounted
[01:23] <drostie> muxomor_: could you put the output of [sudo fdisk -l] on dpaste.com (or similar) and post a link to it?
[01:23] <kubuntu_> yes it starts and doesn't play the files
[01:24] <kubuntu_> it reports an error
[01:24] <kubuntu_> that it needs a decoder
[01:24] <muxomor_> drostie: of course, just a second
[01:24] <sille> but externals (usb) drives no longer auto mount
[01:24] <christopher_> drostie: no it hasn't worked. apter doing that it wouldn't let me in X so i had to install xserver-xorg-video-sti again
[01:24] <GWild> hello - I just installed Kubuntu for the first time 8.10
[01:25] <GWild> has anyone here experienced a problem with their start button disappearing?  If so, how did you get it back (CTRL-A menu will not do it)
[01:25] <Ch1ppy> Err, it seems like the libmsn0.1 package in the repos has gone the way of the dodo? "Reinstallation of libmsn0.1 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded."
[01:26] <muxomor_> drostie: http://paste.org/index.php?id=5420
[01:26] <drostie> christopher_: blech. I would have expected X to just default to another driver. Sorry about that. :-\
[01:26] <christopher_> drostie: no harm done. any other ideas?
[01:28] <muxomor_> drostie: i examined it with df too, just my harddrive. It is logical, that i must mount player manually,(tried under openbox), but then tried to do it automatically in kde  'doesnt work, shows nothing after plugging/unplugging
[01:28] <drostie> christopher_: not without examining the computer for myself, no. sorry.
[01:28] <christopher_> drostie: ok no worries
[01:30] <mofux> hi, how can i bind "suspend to hdd" to my power button in kde4?
[01:30] <drostie> kubuntu_: have you restarted since you installed the restricted drivers that amarok wanted? I vaguely remember amarok being annoying in that sense. Otherwise, you might just have to use another program, like vlc or so.
[01:31] <muxomor_> bz
[01:31] <sille> drostie: any suggestions ?
[01:31] <muxomor_> was disconnected for a while
[01:31] <kubuntu_> nope
[01:32] <kubuntu_> where can i get vlc?
[01:32] <kubuntu_> do you have a link ?
[01:32] <muxomor_> apt-get?
[01:33] <drostie> sille: how did you manage this copying from one drive to another?
 do you have a link to the vlc files?
[01:34] <drostie> kubuntu_: Linux distros are a bit more convenient than Windows etc. for software installation: you ensure that you always get a malware-free package by installing from a "repository" instead.
[01:34] <sille> drostie:  using 3rd party software.  I actually think that teh mounted drives ere neer set up correctly.  think it was just coincidence that probs recently started
[01:34] <muxomor_> kubuntu_: they are available in repository,if i understand you correctly
[01:34] <carlos> hola
[01:35] <drostie> To do this: K menu > Computer > Adept Installer (or Alt-F1 Adept) and find the "vlc" package. ^_^
[01:35] <kubuntu_> ok
[01:35] <jpedroza> evening all. I just got a new Dell Inspiron Mini Netbook, the 12", and would like to install Intrepid on it. I know ubuntu Hardy comes pre-installed by Dell, but will Intrepid work? Has anyone been able to get everything working?
[01:35] <drostie> Or, open up a terminal (Alt-F1 Konsole) and browse the packages directly: [aptitude search vlc], [aptitude show vlc], [sudo apt-get install vlc].
[01:36] <drostie> too many people, not enough tech support brains. ^_^
[01:36] <genii> !es | Guest38319
[01:37] <drostie> jpedroza: did your particular dell inspiron have hardy installed on it?
[01:37] <jpedroza> drostie: Unfortunately, no. It came with Vista, which really sucks.
[01:38] <GWild> has anyone here experienced a problem with their start button disappearing?  If so, how did you get it back (CTRL-A menu will not do it)
[01:40] <drostie> jpedroza: the Live CD can probably still be used to create a dual-boot system. Download one from ubuntu.com or kubuntu.org.
[01:40] <drostie> Beyond that, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam is your best friend ever.
[01:40] <jpedroza> drostie: The live CD boots fine, but no xorg. console login only...
[01:40] <drostie> Intrepid probably works on anything that Hardy works on.
[01:41] <drostie> Wow. Really?
[01:42] <jpedroza> drostie: drostie: Really, really.
[01:42] <jpedroza> drostie: From what I can find, there seems to be issues with the Indel video drivers.
[01:43] <jpedroza> oops Intel
[01:43] <drostie> :-\ is the intrepid tutorial at http://www.ubuntumini.com/ any help?
[01:44]  * jpedroza is browsing it now
[01:44] <drostie> (They don't mention anything about broken display drivers, as far as I see, but maybe I'm missing something.)
[01:46] <drostie> sille: sorry that I'm just getting back to this. Is it possible to revert back to the way it worked before? You could maybe then [sudo cp -a ____] all of the files over.
[01:47] <drostie> sille: but my best advice is basically resize partitions, reinstall from a live CD to one of them, migrate your files and possibly any important settings over, then start fresh.
[01:47] <jpedroza> drostie: Most of that seems to be for the Mini 9, not the 12. Not seeing any installation information either.
[01:49] <sille> drostie: I will look at the original fstab file.  i will also boot up and look at the setup of the mounts off original disk... still in my pc:).  Would rather not revert as I know for sure other mounts were set up wrong.  ie swap partition seen as floppy, mount points duplicated, etc.  Everything perfect now.. of course except the connections through usb.  :(
[01:50] <mss> hola
[01:51] <drostie> jpedroza: k. google and ubuntuforums.com look... inconclusive (people talking about the problem yes, but I don't see a howto.)
[01:51] <sille> drostie: just have to figure out if there is  a generic command i can type in fstab file that will cause an auto mounting of all usb devices that i connect....
[01:52] <jpedroza> drostie: I will see if there is an ISO from Dell that I can install from, that is pre-configured for the Mini 12
[01:52] <jpedroza> mss: hola
[01:52] <jpedroza> !es | mss
[01:52] <drostie> jpedroza: obviously, the live cd is little help to you if xorg doesn't start. but the text-based installer could maybe get you into the system, from which you could try tweaking .conf files and driver settings.
[01:53] <jpedroza> drostie: I am going to try that as well.
[01:53] <drostie> sille: I don't believe so. The fstab file isn't set up that way. (cf. [man fstab] and [man mount] for its syntax.)
[01:55] <sille> drostie: ok.  will reboot to old drive and see if i can see any obvious mounting points/ directories, etc that i may have deleted.
[01:55] <drostie> GWild: does Alt-F1 bring up the menu...?
[01:56] <drostie> sille: that's not exactly what I meant, but ok. I just don't see why you don't start up fresh, if you have the spare hd anyway.
[01:56] <GWild> drostie, No, it doesn't
[01:57] <drostie> GWild: Is the menu gone from the panel, or is the whole panel gone?
[01:57] <GWild> the panel is there, but the button is gone
[01:57] <GWild> drostie, the Widgets menu does not restore it
[01:58] <GWild> drostie, the panel is there, but the button is gone
[02:01] <jpedroza> drostie: how do you boot into the text installer?
[02:01] <drostie> GWild: hrm. without seeing the process in action I couldn't really debug it. Especially if it doesn't help to remove it from the panel, restart, then add it to the panel fresh.
[02:01] <GWild> drostie: I'm going to reboot
[02:01] <drostie> jpedroza: It's just another CD, like the Live CD. Except it only has an installer on it.
[02:02] <drostie> Well, and maybe the memory test etc. options.
[02:02] <Ch1ppy> Does anyone know where the libmsn0.1 package should be coming from?
[02:02] <zipper> hi
[02:03] <drostie> Ch1ppy: [sudo apt-get install libmsn0.1] doesn't install it for you?
[02:04] <Ch1ppy> drostie: it's already installed, but I'm trying to reinstall it due to kopete issues... I keep getting "Reinstallation of libmsn0.1 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded."
[02:07] <jpedroza> looks like Hardy is my only hope
[02:08] <drostie> Ch1ppy: downloads are fine for me off of the nl.archive.ubuntu.com mirror. Which mirror is failing when you apt-get install it?
[02:09] <Ch1ppy> drostie: I'm using the us.archive.ubuntu.com, so it's especially odd
[02:12] <drostie> Ch1ppy: maybe there's a broken package in your cache. Try [sudo apt-get remove kopete libmsn0.1], [sudo apt-get clean], [sudo apt-get update], [sudo apt-get install kopete libmsn0.1], in that order.
[02:13] <Ch1ppy> drostie: Well, I tried searching the ubuntu repo for it (http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libmsn0.1&searchon=names&suite=intrepid&section=all) and that's returning nothing... it seems like it just doesn't exist in the repos?
[02:14] <VanessaE> python
[02:14] <VanessaE> oops
[02:15] <jpedroza> drostie: It looks like there are a lot of fixes coming in Jaunty. Since I am running Jaunty on my other laptop, I am going to try Alpha 4
[02:16] <jpedroza> Who knows, I might be able to contribute something.
[02:16] <jpedroza> :)
[02:16] <drostie> Ch1ppy: that explains the discrepancy. There's a beta package built for jaunty, none for intrepid. If you want, you can possibly add the jaunty main repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list.
[02:17] <Ch1ppy> drostie: Is there a better way to do it?
[02:21] <drostie> Ch1ppy: depends. Can you just [apt-get install kopete] and not worry about libmsn0.9 at all? (It doesn't seem likely to be a new feature in jaunty.)
[02:21] <Ch1ppy> drostie: I would, but that would remove msn support in kopete wouldn't it?
[02:21] <mason_> Could somebody help me out with Amarok?
[02:22] <mason_> Amarok isn't detecting my iPod.
[02:22] <mason_> It's mounted at /mount/ipod, is that correct...?
[02:23] <drostie> Ch1ppy: In jaunty, libmsn0.9 is a dependency, and Kopete won't install without it. So if Kopete is installing, that would seem to indicate that its libmsn0.9 support is intrinsic. (or intrinsically unavailable.) Either way, install kopete and then see if MSN just works.
[02:23] <Ch1ppy> drostie: Just tried; no MSN support
[02:24] <drostie> mason_: I don't know. type Alt-F2, Konsole, and type [mount].
[02:26] <drostie> Ch1ppy: then it sounds like your next best option, short of finding a tarball, is kmess (a msn-specific kde messenger).
[02:27] <mason_> drostie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/119480/
[02:27] <drostie> Assuming that you don't have a thing for kopete, that is.
[02:27] <oobe> the angle on my printer is a bit off tilt does anyone know what that is called or how to fix it
[02:27] <psyco> HEY GUYS
[02:28] <Ch1ppy> drostie: I use 4 other protocols and having two clients is a massive pain. I shall try to find a tarball or package
[02:28] <psyco> anyone have any tips on getting firefox to look more kde 4.2 ish? the buttons are *bleghhh*
[02:29] <mason_> drostie: any suggestions?  When I hit connect, I get Media Device: No mounted iPod found
[02:30] <drostie> psyco: google for [KDE Firefox theme] and see what you can find.
[02:30] <psyco> alrightr
[02:32] <drostie> mason_: /media/ipod is not mounted with anything on your computer. You might check [sudo fdisk -l] to see whether there's a disk device somewhere on your computer. Better yet, if there's a "Last Plugged In Device" type of icon in the lower right corner, click it, and then click on the iPod to mount it in Dolphin. Once it's in Dolphin, it's mounted *somewhere*.
[02:33] <drostie> mason_: I don't know if Amarok decodes iPod obfuscation, though. I know that Rockbox has to initialize a complicated database to map the iPod gibberish filenames to the actual music titles.
[02:33] <drostie> 'kay, guys. it's 3:30am in my country, which is officially Too Late. hopefully some other tech support shows up for you. ^_^ see y'all.
[02:42] <Ch1ppy> Er.... kdenetwork: Depends: knewsticker (>= 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid1) but it is not going to be installed!??!
[02:59] <Zirg> Hey Gang. I need a wireless guru. Got an AR242x card in this laptop that just refuses to play well with others. Who should I 'ping' for help?
[03:01] <Zirg> Hmmm. It's AWFULLY quiet in here. THAT is unusual!
[03:02] <dwidmann> Zirg: hmm, not exactly .... it does get really busy in here around releases though
[03:04] <Zirg> dwidmann, well then, who might I talk to concerning with wifi issue?
[03:11] <genii> Zirg: There seems some useful info on your subject at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=940048
[03:11]  * genii makes more coffee
[03:11] <brent> wasn't a 64 bit adobe flash player released? Is it still experimental?
[03:12] <brent> not showing a package for it
[03:34] <ubuntu_> help
[03:34] <ubuntu_> my hard disk suddenly thinks its full
[03:35] <ubuntu_> but its not
[03:55] <abadr_> hello
[03:55] <DaSkreech> Hi
[03:56] <abadr_> new to IRC here.... do I just shoot with my question??
[03:57] <DaSkreech> Yes sir
[03:58] <DaSkreech> assuming you are male :)
[03:58] <xain> Hello everyone
[03:58] <DaSkreech> !hi
[03:58]  * genii hands out more cookies and coffee
[03:58] <xain> !volume
[03:58] <xain> I bet you don't.
[03:59] <xain> Anyone know how i can increase the system wide volume on my KDE installation?
[03:59] <abadr_> ok... I installed Ubunti 8.10 then kubuntu and then upgraded to KDE 4.2. Somewhere along the line I lost all audio output.
[03:59] <DaSkreech> genii: Any Tea?
[03:59] <DaSkreech> xain: Kmix
[04:00] <DaSkreech> abadr_: Like... all of it?
[04:00]  * genii makes a tea special for DaSkreech and slides it to him
[04:00] <DaSkreech> MMMMMM
[04:00] <abadr_> I tried to reinstall alsa but that didn't work and I could'nt find a lot of useful info online. any ideas on what to do?
[04:00] <xain> Yes all of it.
[04:00] <xain> I mean like an overamp that is not distorted.
[04:01] <DaSkreech> !sound
[04:01] <xain> !players
[04:01] <xain> Bleh.
[04:01] <abadr_> i'll check those right now....
[04:01] <xain> Nothing there that would help me.
[04:01] <xain> !MP3
[04:02] <xain> I doubt that would help either.
[04:02] <genii> xain: What hardware is the soundcard?
[04:02] <DaSkreech> xain: Did you try kmix?
[04:02] <xain> I need something like an overamo for my actual sound card.
[04:02] <xain> Overamp*
[04:02] <xain> Yes i tried Kmix.
[04:02] <xain> I don't have an actual over/underamp scale for it.
[04:03] <xain> Kaffeine has one.
[04:03] <xain> But not a very good one.
[04:03] <xain> But not everything runs under Kaffeine.
[04:03] <xain> So it's not very helpful.
[04:04] <DaSkreech> Stuff doesn't run under kaffiene?
[04:04] <abadr_> my sound card: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[04:04] <DaSkreech> Don't think I've found that yet
[04:04] <abadr_> yes kmix is set correctly
[04:04] <DaSkreech> abadr_: no sounds at all?
[04:05] <abadr_> yes no sound coming out of the speakers, all video runs without sound
[04:05] <xain> My sound run's fine.
[04:05] <genii> !intelhda
[04:05] <xain> I want an overamp, and high end equalizer.
[04:05] <DaSkreech> ooooooh didn't know that one :)
[04:05] <xain> Lucky you for running intel sound.
[04:06] <xain> I'm stuck with realtek...
[04:06] <genii> xain: What says result of:  lspci -nn | grep Audio
[04:06] <abadr_> what's the difference between alsa and pulse audio? are they complementary? which are we running?
[04:07] <xain> We are running Alsa currently.
[04:07] <xain> Pulse add's what i am looking for personally as of system wide EQ and overamp.
[04:07] <xain> BUT.
[04:07] <abadr_> lspci -nn | grep audio:  00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) [1002:4383]
[04:07] <DaSkreech> abadr_: Pulseaudio runs on top of alsa
[04:07] <xain> It has a very bad feedback on sound quality.
[04:13] <DaSkreech> xain hey
[04:13] <abadr_> ok I ran: "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec" and I got  "Codec: Realtek ALC268". isn't that different from intel hda? is there some sort of misconfiguration?
[04:15] <genii> abadr_: No, this is right.
[04:15] <genii> abadr_: A lot of soundcards Realtek produces are just rebranded Intel HDA
[04:16] <abadr_> ok..
[04:19] <brent> why is my amsn not working?
[04:20] <DaSkreech> brent: Dunno
[04:21] <brent> ok.thanks
[04:21] <genii> Probably because MSN keeps changing their protocols so you are railroaded into using their client
[04:21] <DaSkreech> Maybe not
[04:21] <genii> (this happens about 3-4 times a year)
[04:21] <DaSkreech> Anyone here on MSN now?
[04:21] <brent> what can i do to fix it?
[04:22] <Ch1ppy> I'm on MSN via kmess right now
[04:22] <genii> DaSkreech: Not at the moment but could start up pidgin or so
[04:22] <Ch1ppy> MSN via kopete is FUBAR for me ATM though
[04:23] <DaSkreech> Ch1ppy: Do you really need to be on now?
[04:23] <kuaera> Kopete's kind of a semi-crapshoot :(
[04:23] <genii> kuaera: I agree
[04:23] <xain> Sorry screech, baby was waking up.
[04:23] <Ch1ppy> DaSkreech: Sorry?
[04:23] <Ch1ppy> DaSkreech: I'm online on kmess, so it's not an issue... I'd rather have kopete running, but I've given up on that right now... the issue is far too irritating
[04:23] <kuaera> genii: Poor KDE color/style support, poor chatroom integration. Bad interface.
[04:24] <kuaera> The only boon is integration with your contact list...which reminds me that Kontact isn't 100% either :(
[04:24] <xain> I downgraded back to 8.04 due to issues myself.
[04:24] <genii> Interesting. Pidgin is groaning about an ssl certificate at contacts.msn.com when i start up
[04:24] <DaSkreech> Ch1ppy: Can you log off and back in?
[04:24] <xain> Including the KDE4 bug on Intel VGA chipsets.
[04:25] <Ch1ppy> DaSkreech: Oh. Sure
[04:25] <DaSkreech> xain: What does lspci -nn | grep Audio say?
[04:25] <xain> I have no errors or problems with hardware or software,
[04:26] <xain> I want a system wide equalizer and overamp kinda like what you get with pulse audio.
[04:26] <Ch1ppy> DaSkreech: Works for me
[04:26] <DaSkreech> ok
[04:26] <xain> But i wont use Pulse ever again.
[04:26] <xain> I had a really bad overamp issue with screaming feedback.
[04:28] <abadr_> rebooting, back in a bit.
[04:28] <PSiL0> I give up... I find myself spending more time troubleshooting kubuntu rather than getting any real work done.  For the past half-hour, I had to rescue some of my data I've been analyzing today due to the fact that resuming in kde 4.2.0 is a crapshoot.. It is more like playing russian roulette with anything I had in my workspace...  This is where everything slows to a crawl after coming out of resume with all of the system processes
[04:28] <PSiL0>  running under disk sleep mode..
[04:29] <Ch1ppy> DaSkreech: In case it comes up for someone else, the libmsn0.1 package for intrepid has gone the way of the dinosaur
[04:30] <PSiL0> Then after saving my data, I did "sudo shutdown now" in tty1 that tells me, again, that kdm does not respond to the term signal that then leads me to a new menu (emergency?) where I can rescue broken packages or recover x-server, which I selected..
[04:30] <xain> PSiLO : Go to Hardy Heron dude.
[04:31] <xain> Mine crashed on me non stop in intrepid.
[04:31] <PSiL0> then it set up a blank xorg.conf, which I had to aticonfig --initial -f to get everything back to working order, after couple more restarts since kwin couldn't start up the compositing engine..
[04:31] <xain> I switched from a Gnome edition to KDE and i am having problem's on mine.
[04:31] <xain> I'm about to switch back to Gnome.
[04:31] <PSiL0> man, I don't think I swore at my windows install as much as my kubuntu install lately, and I am not a neophyte when it comes to unix cli, having first been exposed to it in '93
[04:32] <kuaera> I'm enjoying the hell out of KDE 4.2 in Jaunty >_>
[04:32] <kuaera> I don't even have an xorg.conf.
[04:33] <kuaera> And, yes, I am running the ati driver.
[04:33] <xain> I'm running an Intel 945GMA which could be a major problem, but then again.
[04:33] <xain> Could be i was running KDE 4.1
[04:33] <kuaera> Leagues of difference from what I've seen.
[04:33] <xain> I haven't tried Jaunty yet.
[04:33] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: Yeah I've had issues with KDM not responding to stuff but that's normally after X goes crazy
[04:34] <xain> IS it possible to run KDE4.2 in Hardy 8.04 by what anyone knows?
[04:34] <kuaera> Yes
[04:34] <kuaera> Wait.
[04:34] <kuaera> Hardy 8.04?
[04:34] <PSiL0> DaSkreech: Yeah, kdm has been a pain in the arse after upgrading my catalyst drivers to 9.1
[04:34] <kuaera> 8.04, yes, Hardy, no.
[04:35] <PSiL0> It was more patience than skill that saved my days worth analysis just now, as I had to wade through whatever bothered X
[04:35] <PSiL0> sorry for my rant.. maybe it should have been directed to the guys in #kde instead ;)
[04:36] <xain> 8.04 IS HArdy....
[04:36] <PSiL0> xain: Actually, I'm holding out hope for jaunty :)
[04:36] <xain> Unless you mean an upgrade from an old edition.
[04:36] <kuaera> xain: Rather... Hardy, no, Intrepid, yes >_< I'm tired.
[04:37] <xain> PSiLO : I would too myself, bt i'm running a crappy Intel945GMA, so i have to deal with what i got.
[04:37] <kuaera> PSiL0: Jaunty seems pretty nice to me.
[04:37] <xain> I would love to upgrade.
[04:37] <PSiL0> Anyways, I think my rant was more appropriate for #kde because kubuntu 08.10 under 4.1.4 was rock-solid compared to the problems I'm having with 4.2.0
[04:37] <kuaera> I'm just concerned about the status of various integral pieces of KDE 4 software
[04:37] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: Go to it
[04:37] <xain> But i wouldn't know where to start without getting pissed off at my laptop without breaking it.
[04:38] <DaSkreech> kuaera: like?
[04:38] <kuaera> KOffice 2
[04:38] <kuaera> Kontact bugs, kopete deficiencies
[04:38] <kuaera> Konqueror still falling short of expectations
[04:39] <xain> FireFox all the way.
[04:39] <kuaera> Arora, actually, is my browser of choice.
[04:39] <PSiL0> DaSkreech: Do you experience any problems with normal shutdowns, where kdm does respond to the system's TERM signal?
[04:39] <kuaera> And Firefox doesn't "run" on KDE4.
[04:39] <xain> I'd like to use netscape navigator please. o.o
[04:39] <xain> Lol.
[04:40] <PSiL0> xain: Yeah FF3 was nice before a recent kwin upgrade crippled one of my oft used mouse gesture >:(
[04:40] <kuaera> Arora, with some additional KDE integration [which is next on their list and I'm active in], is actually a very strong candidate
[04:40] <xain> Doesn't run on KDE 4 my ass.
[04:40] <DaSkreech> Firefox is a Windows application
[04:40] <xain> Mine ran just fine.
[04:40] <kuaera> I mean that it doesn't integrate with KDE 4, doesn't use Qt.
[04:40] <xain> I just had MAJOR issues with everything else as in graphical wise.
[04:40] <xain> OH.
[04:41] <DaSkreech> kuaera: Koffice 2 is a rewrite. Kontact bus are being squashed at a massive rate, Kopete needs help Who will step up to help it?
[04:41] <xain> I'm not that familiar with what you mean by QT so i appoligize abotu that.
[04:41] <DaSkreech> kuaera: Not sure how that's a KDE problem
[04:41] <PSiL0> kuaera: there is a kde4 skin and gtk-engine-qt4 with oxygen-remix solves the rest, now ff3 lookss nicely intergrated witht eh rest of kde4
[04:41] <kuaera> It's an adoptability problem, DaSkreech
[04:41] <DaSkreech> xain: Qt is the toolkit that KDE is built on Firefox uses a mix of GTk+ and XUL
[04:41] <xain> I don't use Kopete.
[04:42] <DaSkreech> kuaera: What do you mean by that?
[04:42] <xain> Your speaking to a Kinux Newbie BTW man.
[04:42] <xain> Linux*
[04:42] <xain> I just know what i've tested out and how it perform's.
[04:42] <kuaera> DaSkreech: I've elected to help write KOffice 2 online documentation. Kontact's biggest issues are still outstanding and I should report them. Kopete... I don't know.
[04:43] <kuaera> DaSkreech: A desktop environment is only as good as it's programs, really.
[04:43] <PSiL0> kuaera: I use the iconset here (http://kims-area.com/?q=node/62) to replace the ugly gnome icons in ff3..
[04:44] <DaSkreech> kuaera: KDE has very good programs
[04:44] <PSiL0> kuaera: then I installed lxappearance to force gtk apps to use a certain window theme and iconset
[04:44] <kuaera> DaSkreech: The basics: browsing, work processing, email, chat.
[04:44] <xain> But anyway, back to my own issue. xD
[04:44] <PSiL0> kuaera: sudo apt-get install lxappearance... GTK-themes or whatever it is called under Appearances in system settings never worked out well for me
[04:45] <xain> Anyone know of a program i can get through add/remove that can give me the ability to control systame wide EQ and Volume, and Overamping?
[04:45] <kuaera> PSiL0: It's alright, I'm happy with Arora :P
[04:46] <DaSkreech> kuaera: I would say the weakest is chat and as I said Kopete is basically two guys. None sponsored none with a significant amount of free time
[04:46] <DaSkreech> Almost all of Kopete is plugin based so if someone wants something done it can be done
[04:46] <DaSkreech> Just who will do it?
[04:46] <PSiL0> anyways, I think I will be heading back to my windows xpsp3 partition for my work since I have a paper to write and my refs are all in endnote.. I haven't had to time to import them to Bibtex
[04:46] <kuaera> I don't know C++, though I'd like to.
[04:47] <kuaera> DaSkreech: Oh, audio is a good fifth on the basics, and the latest Amarok 2 is very strong [I compiled from SVN]
[04:48] <xain> .....
[04:48] <xain> SILENCE BREAKER!
[04:48] <xain> I have Amarok running properly and my audio.
[04:49] <xain> I just have 2 issues with my Linux installation so far.
[04:49] <xain> Visual and Audio.
[04:49] <PSiL0> I really would like to use linux, but the progressive crippling of functionalities I deem essential to me (kde and ati updates) prevents from doing so
[04:49] <DaSkreech> xain: That's a hell of a two things
[04:49] <xain> Haha.
[04:49] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: What's getting worse?
[04:49] <PSiL0> As for the ati update, I should take the blame since I guess that is the price I pay for trying out the bleeding edge
[04:49] <xain> I'm kool with OpenGL.
[04:50] <DaSkreech> kuaera: have they gone to Amarok 2.1 yet or are they still in 2.0 mode ?
[04:50] <xain> PSiLO: Serves ya right. xD
[04:50] <kuaera> 2.0.x, yeah.
[04:50] <xain> PSiLO: Wish i has an ATI...
[04:50] <DaSkreech> kuaera: Ok I've decided I'll wait till 2.1 before jumping back in to Amarok
[04:50] <xain> I normally run XPSP3....
[04:51] <DaSkreech> kuaera: I know there are immedieate problems with Koffice and Kontact but I'm confident they will be addressed and fairly shortly
[04:51] <DaSkreech> What's the issue you have with Kopete?
[04:51] <kuaera> DaSkreech: They're having some collection issues, but it's otherwise very strong. [Amarok 2]
[04:51] <xain> But i woud like to get Linux to run the way i want it to for the fact i can do all the thing's i ever wanted to on XP but it's pre-installed in linux.
[04:51] <PSiL0> DaSkreech: 1) kdm does not terminate during the shutdown process, thus hanging it up; 2) kwin not-responding/blocking some firefox functionality that is extremely important to me; 3) dolphin still painfully slow (despite what the devs say) when managing my imaging experiments
[04:51] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: Wait. Ever?
[04:52] <DaSkreech> KDM never terminates? Everytiem you shutdown?
[04:52] <xain> PSiLO: Believe it or not.
[04:52] <PSiL0> DaSkreech: Yeah kdm never responds to the term signal during the shutdown process.. yup
[04:52] <kuaera> DaSkreech: Well, no MSN support, for one. Also, it's method of integrating contacts into your list and establishing metacontacts is excessively clunky
[04:52] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: That's pretty bad. That means X is still up?
[04:52] <PSiL0> DaSkreech: this happened after installing ati catalyst 9.1, so I blame ati for that one... yeah, X remains up
[04:52] <xain> PSiLO: i have had a 63% performance reduction since i have changed from Ubuntu - Gnome over to Kubuntu - KDE.
[04:52] <DaSkreech> Can You check how much CPU X is using when that happens?
[04:53] <kuaera> DaSkreech: The "cannot add yourself to your own list" bug has been around for about a year and a half.
[04:53] <xain> MSN support - AMSN.
[04:53] <xain> Well, Chat client atleast,.
[04:53] <DaSkreech> kuaera: How would you like it to integrate your contacts into the list?
[04:53] <PSiL0> xain: As much as I would like to say that I champion Gnome's mantra of simplicity, I literally puked when using Gnome for over an hour on a fresh Fedora 10 install
[04:53] <PSiL0> ;)
[04:54] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: hope you wiped your keyboard
[04:54] <PSiL0> DaSkreech: I meant to say figuratively, hehe..
[04:54] <xain> I said performance...
[04:54] <xain> Not eye candy. ^^
[04:54] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: I'm almost certain you can turn off whatever kwin is blocking in firefox so that should be alright
[04:55] <kuaera> <= doesn't use KWin
[04:55] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: What is painfully slow ?
[04:55] <DaSkreech> kuaera: Good for you
[04:55] <kuaera> DaSkreech: I'm uncertain. "Properties" isn't the right place for "Contact List integration"
[04:56] <PSiL0> DaSkreech: Navigating through directories where my experiments are located, 2gigs worth of tiff stacks in each one
[04:56] <xain> Well....
[04:56] <xain> BAck to window's for me. : /
[04:56] <kuaera> DaSkreech: In any dialog where photos are used next to names, a 50% image size border is around all of the photos, taking up massive real estate
[04:57] <PSiL0> DaSkreech: dolphin in kde 4.2.0 soon comes to a halt after navigating through two directories, like it is saying, "no mas!"
[04:57] <kuaera> DaSkreech: Re: KWin: Openbox + xcompmgr
[04:58] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: Turn off previews?
[04:58] <PSiL0> DaSkreech: Yeah, I turned off previews and the information panel..whereas, when I use konqueror, transferring and managing files flies...
[04:59] <Angelus_Delapsus> Ok i'll make this as specific as possible. Running the latest version of Kubuntu. On boot, Plasma Desktop crashes (Sig 11) and KDE GUI refuses to boot. Trying to download Gnome... is there any way to fix this?
[04:59] <DaSkreech> Angelus_Delapsus: remove your Plasma configs?
[05:00] <kuaera> Angelus_Delapsus: Latest = Intrepid or Jaunty?
[05:00] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: hmm interesting. Did you file a bug?
[05:00] <PSiL0> DaSkreech: As for kwin, the funny thing is that the aforementioned mouse gesture returns after turning off compositing.. However, after turning it back on, the problem pops back up, even when using xrender instead of opengl
[05:00] <Angelus_Delapsus> Kuera: Intrepid.
[05:00] <Angelus_Delapsus> DaSkreech: Can't touch anything outside of terminal and Konqueror window. Anything else crashes
[05:00] <Angelus_Delapsus> No taskbar, no panels
[05:00] <PSiL0> DaSkreech: *sigh* I guess I have to do that in order to get a more tangible, workable response...no offense intended to you, mind you
[05:01] <mefisto__> PSiL0: have you tried removing/renaming dolphin config files from .kde ?
[05:01] <Angelus_Delapsus> I have some knowledge of terminal commands but not enough to run an entire fix from the terminal
[05:01] <DaSkreech> Angelus_Delapsus: Yeah I know. before you login jump to a VT and mkdir plasmabkup && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* plasmabkup
[05:01] <DaSkreech> Angelus_Delapsus: Then login
[05:02] <PSiL0> mefisto__: I did once awhile ago due to the same problem, but it came back soon thereafter
[05:02] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: Well maybe none of the developers have that kind of environment to deal with. So they have never had that happen so they don't know it needs fixing
[05:02] <Angelus_Delapsus> DaSkreech: Alright.... brb.
[05:02] <mefisto__> PSiL0: sounds like something to mention if you file a bug report
[05:02] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: Sounds a lot like a cache problem
[05:03] <mefisto__> PSiL0: might be interesting to compare the bad config with a fresh one that works
[05:04] <PSiL0> mefisto__:  True, I try again and save my dolphin configs first before clearing them..
[05:04] <PSiL0> mefisto__:  True, I should try again and save my dolphin configs first before clearing them..
[05:05] <PSiL0> DaSkreech:  I guess none of the devs conduct imaging experiments, huh? ;)
[05:05] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: probably not :)
[05:06] <PSiL0> One experiment alone generates 700MB of tifs
[05:06] <mefisto__> PSiL0: and konqueror shows the previews ok?
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Reminds me of a Pyschology research center looking at MMORPGS to see the interactions
[05:07] <DaSkreech> asked for Everquest 2 logs and when they turned up it was 60TB of files
[05:07] <PSiL0> mefisto__: I don't have previews on for either konqueror or dolphin
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Ummmm ok
[05:07] <PSiL0> If I want pics, I just run my picasa ;)
[05:07] <DaSkreech> That's a bit more than we thought we would have :)
[05:08] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: Digikam would be interesting to run with that
[05:08] <PSiL0> hmmm, it is good in previewing stacked tiffs, which each having at least 140 images?
[05:08] <DaSkreech> Well it's built for large volume data
[05:09] <PSiL0> I just imagej, very fast in image process and analysis.. opensource and runs on java
[05:09] <DaSkreech> so should be interesting to see how it handles it
[05:09] <PSiL0> ahh, more like a stress test, lol
[05:09] <DaSkreech> kuaera: That's A kwin issue?
[05:10] <PSiL0> oh yeah, fourth issue I have with kde 4.2.0 is that resuming after suspending a session to RAM seems more of a crapshoot than 4.1.3 & 4.1.4
[05:10] <mefisto__> PSiL0: is it possible to remove catalyst without removing fglrx?
[05:10] <PSiL0> mefisto__: That I don't know...
[05:11] <PSiL0> mefisto__:  Actually, I would interested in downgrading from 9.1(8.573) to x.x(8.553).. I guess I have to remove everything associated with ati and fglrx and apt-get install from the repos
[05:12] <PSiL0> would interested = would be interested
[05:13] <DaSkreech> Yeah pretty sure you just swap out the modules
[05:13] <mefisto__> PSiL0: I wonder if installing catalyst from the ubuntu deb would do that...
[05:14] <PSiL0> mefisto__:  ohh, I installed 9.1 from ati's site.. the repos don't have it yet.. remember, bleeding edge..
[05:14] <PSiL0> *sigh* live by the sword, die by the sword..
[05:14] <Angelus_Delapsus> DaSkreech: You still here?
[05:14] <mefisto__> PSiL0: yes but there is a catalyst deb in official repos, isn't there? an old one, I mean
[05:15] <Angelus_Delapsus> mefisto: DaSkreech still here? Unfortunately I'm having to run irc through the terminal
[05:15] <PSiL0> mefisto__:  ahhhh.. sorry.. Yeah, there is a catalyst deb in the official repos... just not the supposed latest and greatest.. I guess I installed 9.1 to see if ati fixed the video flickering issue, which it did... somewhat...
[05:16] <DaSkreech> Angelus_Delapsus: Not sure why that's unfortunate :)
[05:16] <Angelus_Delapsus> Ohhh
[05:16] <Angelus_Delapsus> DS: Because I don't see a user list
[05:16] <mefisto__> PSiL0: but did catalyst fix it, or fglrx? do they get installed together?
[05:17] <PSiL0> mefisto__: oh, I think catalyst did since fglrx is for 3D rendering, no?
[05:18] <PSiL0> anyways, the 9.1 package contained newer versions of both catalyst and fglrx than the one found in the repos
[05:18] <mefisto__> PSiL0: I thought catalyst was just for tweaking driver settings, getting info easily, etc. I'm just guessing though, since it's possible to install just fglrx from repos without catalyst
[05:19] <PSiL0> mefisto__:  actually, I think one can.. I think I saw it from a guide..
[05:19] <DaSkreech> Angelus_Delapsus: Tab still works
[05:19] <DaSkreech> !tab | Angelus_Delapsus
[05:21] <PSiL0> anyways, I have to finish up some work from today.. thanks for hearing me out guys
[05:22] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: Sure hopefully you can get some of that sorted right quick
[05:22] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: #kwin to check out the firefox issues
[05:22] <PSiL0> DaSkreech:  cool, thanks for the info
[05:23] <Angelus_Delapsus> mkdir plasmabkup && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma*plasmabkup
[05:23] <PSiL0> adios
[05:23] <DaSkreech> Ah balls
[05:23] <DaSkreech> he is missing a space
[05:23] <maco> basket?
[05:23]  * maco fails at sports joke
[05:24] <DaSkreech> ah I thought you were asking about basKet
[05:24] <DaSkreech> Which totally rocks
[05:24] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: that's the notes one, right?
[05:25] <DaSkreech> yessir
[05:27] <maco> DaSkreech: you said "balls" so i said "basket"
[05:27] <maco> i havent tried basket
[05:27] <maco> can it do LaTeX?
[05:27] <maco> i know Tomboy has a LaTeX plugin, and I think Zim has it built in
[05:27] <DaSkreech> I would guess
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Nothing techincal prevents it
[05:29] <maco> well i mean, does it have a way of inputting & interpreting LaTeX codes
[05:29] <maco> the Tomboy plugin uses imagemagick to convert LaTeX code into images
[05:33] <DaSkreech> maco: IIIII'm not sure I never really jumped into the laTex world
[05:40] <StR|Sangreal> !flicker
[05:41] <StR|Sangreal> !flickering
[05:41] <ockonal> :)
[05:42]  * DaSkreech chuckles
[05:44] <StR|Sangreal> ahoj
[05:44] <v3trae> hey guys, where does kde store the default background? i'd like to switch back to it
[05:44] <StR|Sangreal> pls what do i need to fully update my system to newest kernel, kde, ooo and so?
[05:45] <StR|Sangreal> i think i have to add some repositories but dont know which
[05:45] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:45] <DaSkreech> v3trae: Should be in your listing for backgrounds
[05:45] <v3trae> DaSkreech: that defaults to my home directory =(
[05:45] <v3trae> DaSkreech: btw, nice to see you again, you've been gone for a while ;D
[05:46] <DaSkreech> v3trae: You should have a drop down box with that as a choice.
[05:46] <DaSkreech> v3trae: yes I was
[05:46] <v3trae> DaSkreech: oh, wow, i'm an idiot, thank you
[05:47] <v3trae> DaSkreech: awe crap, i'm looking for the gray scale version, i can't get my conky to go transparent so i just want it to match the background =/
[05:47] <mefisto__> v3trae: maybe the images you're looking for are in /usr/share/backgrounds/  if they're not in the dropdown list
[05:48] <v3trae> mefisto__: i'll take a look
[05:50] <StR|Sangreal> pls what can i do with the flickering align the right corner of my display and wherever else on launching new windows and applications?
[05:50] <v3trae> mefisto__: backgrounds doesn't exist =/
[05:52] <Angelus_Delapsus> Anyway... Would I be far off to assume that since it didn't work  it may be best to reinstall?
[05:53] <StR|Sangreal> how can i instll xfce with all associated and related packages?
[05:53] <mefisto__> StR|Sangreal: can you rephrase?
[05:53] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: There is a fix in a repo provided by the kubuntu devs
[05:53] <Angelus_Delapsus> quit
[05:53] <Angelus_Delapsus> find gnome
[05:53] <DaSkreech> Angelus_Delapsus: You were missing a space
[05:54] <StR|Sangreal> and what is it?
[05:54] <Angelus_Delapsus> Crap... Where?
[05:54] <DaSkreech> I saw it right before you quit
[05:54] <mefisto__> StR|Sangreal: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop    will install xfce and its default apps
[05:54] <DaSkreech> in between the last * and plasmabkup
[05:54] <Angelus_Delapsus> Kay
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Angelus_Delapsus: Didn't it spit an error?
[05:54] <v3trae> Does anyone know where the grayscale version of Air (the default kde background) is saved?
[05:55] <DaSkreech> v3trae: not sure I recall there was a lot of different colours. Maybe it's in a extra package ?
[05:55] <DaSkreech> kubuntu-artwork or somesuch ?
[05:55] <Angelus_Delapsus> DS: Yes.. at first
[05:55] <Angelus_Delapsus> It said that the path was already created
[05:55] <v3trae> DaSkreech: its the one used by default KDM in 4.2 i would assume its already here somewhere, i 'll give that a shot
[05:56] <Angelus_Delapsus> Which of course didn't make sense.
[05:56] <Angelus_Delapsus> But it wasn't a syntax error
[05:57] <StR|Sangreal> DaSkreech, what sort of fix and how do i get it?
[05:57] <cybio> v3trae: /usr/share/wallpapers/Air/contents/images/
[05:58] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: it fixes the visual garbage in Kubuntu and it's a deb
[05:58] <DaSkreech> Angelus_Delapsus: Ah
[05:58] <DaSkreech> Angelus_Delapsus: So it's a little better now?
[05:58] <v3trae> cybio: there it is, thank you sir
[05:58] <Angelus_Delapsus> DS: I'm in IRC via shell terminal
[05:58] <Angelus_Delapsus> Not even logged in.
[05:58] <StR|Sangreal> please tell me what to do to install it
[05:59] <maco> qt-designer's help thing wants me to have assistant-qt4 installed, but no such package name exists. what package contains that?
[05:59] <Angelus_Delapsus> Still working on it
[06:00] <StR|Sangreal> DaSkreech, please
[06:01] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: Ah umm hold on
[06:03] <mefisto__> maco: qt4-dev-tools ? "This packages contains tools used to assist in Qt 4 development, including the Qt Assistant, Linguist, D-Bus Viewer and Pixel Tool applications."
[06:03] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/adamspain/ubuntu intrepid main add that repo
[06:03] <StR|Sangreal> another thing
[06:04] <DaSkreech> and upgrade
[06:04] <StR|Sangreal> how can i install msttcorefonts?
[06:05] <StR|Sangreal> i always get *no route to host* as i install from aptitud
[06:06] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: hmm can you sudo apt-get update ?
[06:07] <StR|Sangreal> well all is fine, just this package cannot be installed via aptitude
[06:07] <StR|Sangreal> cuz it contacts a third party apparently and the files dont seem to be there
[06:08] <StR|Sangreal> except that aptitude works i have just dl.ed xfce so its ok
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:09] <StR|Sangreal> i mean the microsoft truetype core fonts
[06:09] <StR|Sangreal> and i dont know how to get them :/
[06:13] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: I think there is a package for the corefonts
[06:14] <StR|Sangreal> there is one called msttcorefonts present in kubuntu-restricted-extras ... however as i said i cant download it from aptitude and dont know any other source or substitute
[06:15] <DaSkreech> packages.ubuntu.com
[06:16] <mefisto__> StR|Sangreal: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts             same error?
[06:17] <StR|Sangreal> yes
[06:17] <StR|Sangreal> why doesnt it want to upgrade my kernel although it finds out that there is a newer release available
[06:17] <StR|Sangreal> ?
[06:18] <StR|Sangreal> Nasledovné balíky sa ponechajú v súčasnej verzii:
[06:18] <StR|Sangreal>   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[06:18] <StR|Sangreal>   linux-restricted-modules-generic
[06:19] <DaSkreech> maybe you have a network error?
[06:19] <StR|Sangreal> == these packages are intentilnally left on the previous version
[06:19] <StR|Sangreal> ==why?
[06:19] <StR|Sangreal> well i can install all other things as i said
[06:19] <glencarbonil> dual boot grub question. 40gb win xp wants default . 20 gb ubuntu 8.04 wants to be able to remove this drive and still boot wp.
[06:20] <glencarbonil> xp
[06:23] <DaSkreech> glencarbonil: What wants?
[06:23] <mefisto__> just what I was thinking
[06:23] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: Maybe they are pinned in aptitude?
[06:24] <StR|Sangreal> no clue
[06:24] <StR|Sangreal> but the same is for apt and adept
[06:24] <glencarbonil> dascreech I want to be able to remove my 20 gb disk with ubuntu on it and still boot the 40gb xp disk
[06:25] <StR|Sangreal> now you mean those not updated packages?
[06:25] <mefisto__> StR|Sangreal: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get remove msttcorefonts && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[06:27] <DaSkreech> glencarbonil: Do you have a XP CD?
[06:27] <mefisto__> glencarbonil: remove permanently? or you want to be able to remove and reconnect the ubuntu disk?
[06:27] <DaSkreech> glencarbonil: Where is Grub? is it on the 40 or the 20 ?
[06:28] <glencarbonil> now grub is on a grub boot cd that is the only way i can boot ubuntu now
[06:29] <glencarbonil> i fdisk /mbr 40 gig so it boots xp fine
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Oh then just take out the ubuntu drive everything shoudl still work
[06:29] <glencarbonil> yes its good like that
[06:29] <StR|Sangreal> same error no route to host and then font files are not regisered
[06:29] <glencarbonil> i was trying to install grub on the windows disk
[06:29] <mefisto__> glencarbonil: put grub on the xp disk
[06:29] <glencarbonil> how
[06:29] <mefisto__> !grub
[06:30] <glencarbonil> ok thanks
[06:32] <mefisto__> glencarbonil: you might need to create a /boot partition on the xp disk
[06:33] <Andrew``> hey all
[06:33] <Andrew``> does anyone here use an Ipod on Kubuntu?
[06:34] <mefisto__> glencarbonil: another option is to use windows to choose what to boot. not sure exactly how to do that, but I've seen howtos
[06:35] <StR|Sangreal> how can i please upgrade to:
[06:35] <StR|Sangreal> -kernel .28
[06:35] <StR|Sangreal> -kde 4.2
[06:35] <StR|Sangreal> -OOo 3.01 slovak (i have currently 2.4)
[06:35] <StR|Sangreal> -amarok 2
[06:35] <StR|Sangreal> since i dont get it with the regular system upgrade or distro upgrade
[06:35] <reanimation> hello kubuntu
[06:36] <abadr_> hey, thanks guys, the links you gave me fixed my audio problems. I now have sound again...
[06:36] <Cybio> StR|Sangreal: install Jaunty :-)
[06:36] <StR|Sangreal> what is jaunty?
[06:36] <StR|Sangreal> !jaunty
[06:37] <mefisto__> StR|Sangreal: kde 4.2: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[06:37] <Cybio> StR|Sangreal: the next kubuntu which comes out probably in April
[06:37] <abadr_> am I the only one who hates these code names? hardy, edgy, jaunty, ....
[06:37] <StR|Sangreal> aha... i have no lust to reinstall my system again and fix zillions of bugs as i have to do now
[06:37] <StR|Sangreal> is there a simple explanation how they invent them?
[06:39] <StR|Sangreal> ok i will reboot and wonder what happens... thanks for help so far
[06:40] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: .28 is probably not going to be there for Ibex KDE 4.2 is in the topic OOo 3.o is from openoffice.org's repo Amraok 2 is called amarok-kde4 I think
[06:40] <DaSkreech> abadr_: call them 8.10 9.10 then
[06:41] <StR|Sangreal> package amarok-kde4 doesnt exist
[06:41] <mefisto__> StR|Sangreal: openoffice 3: add this to /etc/apt/sources.list : deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main   and update/upgrade
[06:42] <StR|Sangreal> why are the names of distros as they are?
[06:42] <mefisto__> StR|Sangreal: for amarok 2: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main
[06:42] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/adamspain/ubuntu intrepid main
[06:42] <DaSkreech> argh
[06:42] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.0
[06:43] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: because the dictator says so
[06:43] <StR|Sangreal> i am sorry i just have no mention of that in my adept
[06:45] <mefisto__> abadr_: I like those names, but don't like "intrepid"
[06:45] <Cybio> StR|Sangreal: maybe you can try to install packages from a terminal instead of using adept.
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Mention of what?
[06:50] <abadr_> I actually don't mind the names themselves, it's just that the regular users forgets which name is which version. I do all the time. these names may have a place in the development community but not in the public
[06:51] <mefisto__> abadr_: they're alphabetically ordered. it's easy isn't it?
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Debian's code names are much harder to sequence
[06:53] <Cybio> DaSkreech: Not if you just use Sid :-)
[06:53] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:53] <Cybio> SId will always be Sid
[06:53] <DaSkreech> Kubuntu doesn't have a Sid
[06:54] <Cybio> Ubuntu was made of Sid
[06:54] <DaSkreech> Was
[06:55] <Cybio> I think there is still a close connection between the 2
[06:56] <DaSkreech> There is
[06:56] <DaSkreech> But Ubuntu is no longer Sid and there is no Sid repo for ubuntu
[06:57] <Cybio> There is no Sid repo because Ubuntu is Sid including some Ubuntu packages + some eyecandy
[06:58] <StR|Sangreal> dont see any improvements with graphics...
[07:00] <mefisto__> StR|Sangreal: improvements after what?
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Cybio: yes but there is no place to get "the new stuff" you are either in release which is heavily locked down or in +1 which mostly locked down
[07:03] <maco> um...anyone ever see kmail just start scrolling down through their inbox, refusing to scroll back up when you tell it to with the mouse, and making some stuff disappear as it goes through?
[07:04] <mefisto__> maco: key stuck on your keyboard?
[07:04] <Cybio> DaSkreech: ... True the release phylosophy from (k)Ubuntu is totally different then how it goes in Debian. I had Sid running for a long time and ones in a while just needed to do a dist-upgrade to get a load of new stuff ... In Kubuntu i need to re-install a complete new distribution
[07:06] <DaSkreech> Cybio: Well you can just dist-upgrade to the new distro
[07:07] <Cybio> DaSkreech: i have tried that 2 times ... both without succes: got a lot of bugs
[07:07] <wrinkliez> is there a way you can get facebook chat working in knoqueror?
[07:07] <wrinkliez> somehow? -_-
[07:08] <willdemon2> Hello
[07:09] <DaSkreech> wrinkliez: Webkit kpart?
[07:09] <DaSkreech> !hi
[07:09] <willdemon2> what would the ubuntu equal be of limewire?
[07:09] <wrinkliez> DaSkreech: ill try that, thanks
[07:09] <DaSkreech> !limewire
[07:10] <DaSkreech> !frostwire
[07:10] <willdemon2> kubuntu newbe
[07:10] <willdemon2> I c said the blind man
[07:10] <willdemon2> thank you
[07:11] <willdemon2> noted! : )
[07:11] <DaSkreech> Welcome to Kubuntu
[07:13] <willdemon2> thank you all. GN
[07:15] <DaSkreech> Night
[07:16] <Cybio> night :-)
[07:16] <mefisto__> I'm looking for ctrl+left/right arrow to jump to prev/next word in keyboard settings. anyone know where it is?
[07:17] <DaSkreech> Which app?
[07:18] <mefisto__> in systemsettings. used to be a global shortcut in hardy, can't find it in kde4 settings
[07:18] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: eg, it worked in konversation, text editors, konsole
[07:18] <DaSkreech> mefisto__: oh that's ctrl+,. now
[07:19] <DaSkreech> Don't know why that changed but that's what it is for everything now
[07:21] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: doesn't work for me. in konversation, it switches tabs. kate, nothing. konsole, nothing
[07:21] <DaSkreech> konversation isn't KDE4
[07:22] <DaSkreech> Kate seems to use alt+Back and forward
[07:28] <StR|Sangreal> Daskreech, it doesnt seem like your hint with graphic *garbage* fixing has worked
[07:29] <lister> hi
[07:29] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: Sorry :( I tried
[07:30] <StR|Sangreal> pls whats the name of package so that i can check if i really have it installed or not
[07:31] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: very weird. I accidentally did ctrl-alt-backspace while looking for key shortcuts that do what I want, now everything responds to ctrl+left/right arrow as I am used to
[07:39] <DaSkreech> mefisto__: strange
[07:40] <mefisto__> can I save a kde session from terminal?
[07:41] <DaSkreech> sure
[07:43] <mefisto__> how do I save a kde session from terminal?
[07:48] <DaSkreech> ksmserver I should think
[07:58] <mefisto__> dbus-send --dest=org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer org.kde.KSMServerInterface.saveCurrentSession  (to be specific)
[07:59] <DaSkreech> :-D
[08:03] <sille> can anyone tell me how one would play movie fiels (avi) with subtitle file.  is there a particular player that is intended formovie+subtitles?
[08:10] <noren> hello all, i have a unique problem
[08:10] <mefisto__> sille: kaffeine does subtitles. mplayer does. probably vlc too
[08:11] <noren> yestarday i upgraded my kde to kde4.2 and then amarok to amarok 2, now i dont have any sound in any media players but the amarok is running fine , any advice pleassse
[08:12] <sille> mefisto__: so how do i open these files to play movie+subtitle.  do i just start the movie and subtitle automatic?
[08:13] <timj> hello, im using kubuntu 3.5.10 and am unable to hear sound in headphones
[08:13] <mefisto__> sille: not sure exactly. never done it before myself. but kaffeine has a subtitles submenu in the player menu. maybe if the subtitles file is in the same dir it will autoload?
[08:13] <timj> also kmix application does not come up
[08:14] <timj> i think there is a problem with sound in general
[08:14] <timj> any way to fix this ?
[08:14] <sille> mefisto__: will mess with it some more... thx
[08:16] <noren> is there any howto to fix this problem
[08:17] <mefisto__> !sound
[08:18] <mefisto__> ignore what ubottu says about ARTS if you're using kde 4
[08:19] <timj> ok
[08:22] <timj> When i run aplay -l, it says no soundcard found...is it that Kubuntu is not recognizing my soundcard ?..any modules to install for that ?
[08:22] <abraham> hi
[08:22] <abraham> someone can help me?
[08:23] <abraham> alguien me puede ayudar?
[08:23] <abraham> please
[08:23] <DaSkreech> !pt
[08:23] <DaSkreech> abraham: What's the issue?
[08:23] <abraham> i have to now how to instal smeting
[08:24] <abraham> im newbie
[08:24] <DaSkreech> timj: what's sudo lshw -C Audio say ?
[08:24] <DaSkreech> abraham: sudo apt-get install <programname>
[08:24] <abraham> ok
[08:24] <abraham> let me try
[08:24] <dim3dro1> hi all
[08:24] <dim3dro1> can anyone help me with wvdial?
[08:25] <mefisto__> timj: replace Audio with Multimedia if you get nothing
[08:25] <dim3dro1> I have 3g pcmcia modem Option 3.6 GT Max
[08:25] <abraham> & were i execute that command?
[08:25] <abraham> sudo apt-get install
[08:25] <dim3dro1> here's my wvdial.conf:
[08:25] <dim3dro1> [Dialer Defaults]
[08:26] <dim3dro1> Init1 = ATZ
[08:26] <dim3dro1> Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
[08:26] <dim3dro1> Modem Type = USB Modem
[08:26] <dim3dro1> ISDN = 0
[08:26] <dim3dro1> Phone = *99#
[08:26] <dim3dro1> Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0
[08:26] <DaSkreech> abraham: sudo apt-get install then a program
[08:26] <dim3dro1> Username = ;
[08:26] <dim3dro1> Password = ;
[08:26] <dim3dro1> Baud = 9600
[08:26] <dim3dro1> [Dialer utel]
[08:26] <dim3dro1> Init3 = AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","3g.utel.ua"
[08:26] <mefisto__> !paste | dim3dro1
[08:26] <DaSkreech> abraham: like sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:27] <timj> mefisto__: lshw -C Audio, showed nothing , so i used lshw -C Multimedia,a nd then i get : *-multimedia UNCLAIMED
[08:27] <timj>        description: Audio device
[08:27] <timj>        product: 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
[08:27] <timj>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[08:27] <timj>        physical id: 1b
[08:27] <timj>        bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.0
[08:27] <timj>        version: 02
[08:27] <timj>        width: 64 bits       clock: 33MHz       capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list      configuration: latency=0
[08:27] <abraham> ok but were i execute that
[08:27] <mefisto__> oh no
[08:27] <DaSkreech> !intelhda
[08:28] <jussi01> !pastebin | timj
[08:28] <DaSkreech> abraham: What are you trying to install?
[08:28] <abraham> firefox
[08:28] <timj> ubottu : ok
[08:28] <dim3dro1> my wvdial.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/119571/
[08:29] <DaSkreech> abraham: sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:29] <abraham> ok let me try
[08:30] <dim3dro1> here's output from my console: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/119573/
[08:31] <timj> ok ..the output i got for lshw -C Multimedia is http://paste.ubuntu.com/119574/
[08:31] <dim3dro1> here's part of my syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/119575/
[08:31] <abraham> DaScrech: do you speack spanish?
[08:33] <timj> does it mean i have Intel soundcard, and i now need to install some drivers to make it work ?
[08:33] <mefisto__> timj: does cat /proc/asound/modules  show anything? if not, look at the link from ubottu about intel HDA sound  ^^
[08:34] <DaSkreech> !es | abraham
[08:34] <mefisto__> timj: actually, look at that link either way
[08:34] <timj> mefisto__; alright
[08:35] <abraham> tnkz :)
[08:37] <timj> mefisto__: sorry, im kinda new to irc, so by channel topic do u mean https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ ?
[08:38] <DaSkreech> timj: They mean what you see when you type /topic
[08:38] <mefisto__> !intelhda | timj
[08:38] <timj> ubottu : k, thanks, ill check that out
[08:44] <doktoreas> how can I hide attachement window in kmail?
[08:47] <jinnn> I have problem upgrading kde to 4.2
[08:48] <jinnn> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa7_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[08:48] <jinnn>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kconf_update_bin/plasma-add-shortcut-to-menu', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-bin
[08:48] <jinnn> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[08:48] <jinnn> now Konqueror cannot even open a webpage
[08:51] <DaSkreech> install kdeworkspace-bin first
[08:53] <timj> thanks everyone , sound is working now :)
[08:53] <mefisto__> good work timj
[08:54] <timj> mefisto__: thank you :)
[08:57] <abraham> !jp
[09:09] <hanseld> Hello to all of you.
[09:09] <abraham> "es
[09:09] <abraham> !es
[09:09] <hanseld> I have a problem with KDE 4.2 release on my Ubuntu 8.10 installation.
[09:10] <ActionParsnip1> hanseld: ask away
[09:10] <hanseld> I have some links/docs on my Desktop (Desktop folder).
[09:13] <hanseld> If I right-click on such an icon to get the properties of that item I could see that KDE tell me about an error (I think it was a SIGKILL event) and then restart the Desktop display.
[09:14] <hanseld> I would not be logged out. But the complete Desktop display area is blanked out and displayed again.
[09:15] <hanseld> I can recreate this problem each time (even after reboot of the whole Ubuntu).
[09:16] <ActionParsnip1> hanseld: are you fully updated?
[09:17] <hanseld> Yes. I am using the kubuntu-experimental repository in addition to the official repos. Each time I got notification about new updates I will install them.
[09:18] <ActionParsnip1> hanseld: the experimental repos may be causing the issue
[09:19] <hanseld> Is there a plan/date when KDE 4.2 will be provided by the stable repos (i.e. not experimental)?
[09:19] <hanseld> for ubuntu 8.10...
[09:19] <ActionParsnip1> http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[09:20] <mefisto__> hanseld: jaunty 9.04, in 2009, 04 (April)
[09:23] <hanseld> Right. Am I right that KDE 4.2 release will be available for 8.10 as non-experimental? At the moment KDE 4.1.4 is available in the non-experimental repository.
[09:23] <Tm_T> hanseld: well be in backports
[09:23] <Tm_T> s/well/will/
[09:26] <hanseld> Tm_T, you mean the backports I can enable in the Software Sources dialog. Right?
[09:26] <Tm_T> hanseld: yes
[09:27] <Tm_T> hanseld: it's not there yet, but will be when ready
[09:27] <hanseld> Tm_T, great.
[09:27] <SuperHouse> How would I get the larger text to 'save' in Konsole ?
[09:27] <SuperHouse> instead of me having to do it each time
[09:27] <hanseld> Thank you, Tm_T and ActionParsnip1.
[09:27] <ActionParsnip1> hanseld: after the error, try reading dmesg | tail
[09:27] <SuperHouse> (enlarge it)
[09:27] <Tm_T> SuperHouse: save the session
[09:27] <Tm_T> SuperHouse: save/edit
[09:27] <SuperHouse> Tm_T: how
[09:28] <Tm_T> SuperHouse: menu: Settings -> Edit current profile
[09:28] <hanseld> ActionParsnip1, good idea. Thanks for this. I will do it and come back if there are interesting information.
[09:28] <hanseld> CU then.
[09:28] <hanseld> bye.
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> simple question for you guys, If I use the minimal ISO, Can I so a server install?
[09:30] <SuperHouse> Tm_T: I don't see that
[09:31] <SuperHouse> Tm_T: never mind, "save as default" got it
[09:31] <SuperHouse> How would I uninstall the gnome desktop after not liking ubuntu-desktop ?
[09:31] <ActionParsnip1> !purekde
[09:32] <smTdust> anyone comfortable with madwifi drivers?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> Is there any difference in the Ubuntu Server kernel to the desktop kernel?
[09:33] <SuperHouse> Oh yeah, and like Gnome, is it possible for the screen saver to start when you lock the computer?
[09:34] <ActionParsnip1> SuperHouse: why not just turn off the monitor?
[09:34] <ActionParsnip1> SuperHouse: electricitysaver > screensaver
[09:34] <SuperHouse> ActionParsnip1: require effort
[09:34] <ActionParsnip1> hardly
[09:35] <SuperHouse> plus the screen is still displaye
[09:35] <SuperHouse> d
[09:35] <SuperHouse> if turned on
[09:35] <mefisto__> ubottu's links and info are getting kinda outdated
[09:37] <ubuntu_> hi, any one has problem upgrading to kde 4.2?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> none here
[09:37] <ubuntu_> I did a fresh install of kubuntu and followed the guide of the site to upgrade and I got broken pipe
[09:37] <matt1_> after yesterdays update (intrepid) i can no longer log in on any users, had to create a new user
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntu_: you could try reinstalling the package
[09:38] <ubuntu_> I did try apt-get -f install to fix
[09:38] <ubuntu_> that also failed
[09:38] <ActionParsnip1> matt1_: try dropping to recovery root console and chowning the folders for their relative user, and grant 755 chmod for each also
[09:39] <ashishnaicker> hello room
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> !hi | ash
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> !hi | ashishnaicker
[09:39] <ashishnaicker> hi
[09:40] <matt1_> ActionParsnip1: cheers - I'll give that a go
[09:40] <mefisto__> ubuntu_: can you pastebin the error when you apt-get upgrade ?
[09:40] <ashishnaicker> i am having a problem with opera
[09:40] <ubuntu_> mefisto__: no, I am reinstalling at this moment
[09:40] <ubuntu_> mefisto__:  here is exatly what I did
[09:40] <mefisto__> ubuntu_: ok
[09:40] <ubuntu_> added the repo and the key then apt-get update and upgrade
[09:43] <mefisto__> ubuntu_: then you gave up and reinstalled everything?
[09:43] <SuperHouse> Netsplit : irc.freenode.net go BOOOOOOOOOOOM from bartol.freenode.net 341 BOOOOOMers in all the splits i have seen.
[09:43] <ubuntu_> opensuse is the only distro shipping kde 4.2 right now.
[09:43] <ubuntu_> mefisto__: yes :(
[09:44] <ubuntu_> mefisto__:  not only that, after that error, I can't even open a webpage
[09:44] <ubuntu_> I lost windows border etc
[09:44] <SuperHouse> my god this is taking forever to remove ubuntu's stuff
[09:45] <SuperHouse> there it goes
[10:24] <SuperMetal> How would I set something to auto start , such as in gnome there is 'sessions' (spelling)
[10:24] <SuperMetal> where I was able to put in /usr/bin/pidgin
[10:25] <mefisto__> SuperMetal: systemsettings > advanced > autostart
[10:26] <SuperMetal> I'm not seeing autostart there
[10:27] <mefisto__> SuperMetal: do you have intrepid?
[10:27] <SuperMetal> mefisto__: no
[10:28] <mefisto__> so what do you have installed?
[10:31] <mefisto__> SuperMetal: if you're not sure: lsb_release -a
[10:41] <SuperMetal> mefisto__: Hardy
[10:42] <SuperMetal> 8.04.02
[10:43] <SuperMetal> uh 2
[10:43] <SuperMetal> not that that matters
[10:44] <mefisto__> SuperMetal: don't know if it's installed by default in hardy, but sudo apt-get install kcontrol-autostart
[10:45] <mefisto__> SuperMetal: once it's installed, start Kcontrol and find "autostart manager" or just type "kcmshell autostart"
[10:48] <SuperMetal> ok, now for some strange reason I have no sound in pidin
[10:49] <SuperMetal> after I removed all of the ubuntu-desktop packages
[10:50] <mefisto__> SuperMetal: pidgin uses some of what you removed. just reinstall pidgin to make sure you have all its dependencies
[10:52] <ActionParsnip1> SuperMetal: sudo apt-get --reinstall install pidgin
[10:52] <ActionParsnip1> !startup | SuperMetal
[10:53] <||arifaX> hi is someone using gmailfs? Works allright here but cannot list any files in the mountpoint. is this by design or do I something wrong?
[10:54] <SuperMetal> ActionParsnip1: still didn't give me sound
[10:55] <ActionParsnip1> SuperMetal: do sounds work in other apps/
[10:55] <SuperMetal> ActionParsnip1: yes
[10:55] <SuperMetal> XMMS works fine, Virtualbox, etc
[10:55] <ActionParsnip1> SuperMetal: in the prefs where you select sounds for pidgin, do the previews work?
[10:56] <SuperMetal> no
[10:56] <ActionParsnip1> SuperMetal: if you browse where those files are held, can you play them yourself?
[10:57] <SuperMetal> ActionParsnip1: how do I know where they are at
[10:58] <ActionParsnip1> tools menu on main window   is mute all sounds selected?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip1> its at the bottom
[10:58]  * ActionParsnip1 plays a drumroll
[10:59] <ActionParsnip1> SuperMetal: and then if you go to the sounds tab, is mute sounds selected there
[10:59] <SuperMetal> no, as I said when I click "preview" they don't play
[10:59] <ActionParsnip1> SuperMetal: if you change the sound method from automatic to whatever system you use this may help
[11:00] <SuperMetal> I have it on ALSA
[11:00] <ActionParsnip1> SuperMetal: are any mute check boxes selected
[11:00] <mefisto__> SuperMetal: did you restart pidgin after reinstalling it?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip1> SuperMetal: try it on automatic, just to test
[11:00] <ActionParsnip1> SuperMetal: and what mefisto__ said
[11:00] <SuperMetal> none of the sounds work, and all say (default)
[11:00] <SuperMetal> yes
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> SuperMetal: did you check the mute things, alsa is a good choice, i find pulse to be a bit twitchy
[11:01] <SuperMetal> ActionParsnip1: there is no mutes
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> SuperMetal: cool
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> ok, if you set the sound to one of the songs on your system, does it play ok?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> like some random mp3
[11:03] <SuperMetal> no
[11:03] <SuperMetal> it doesn't play
[11:03] <ActionParsnip1> SuperMetal: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-602508.html
[11:03] <ActionParsnip1> SuperMetal: you could try closing pidgin completely and renaming ~/.purple then relaunching to get a stock profile for pidgin
[11:04] <ActionParsnip1> SuperMetal: you will have to reset up your accounts but its a good test, you can rename back if you gain nothing but you will have further knowledge
[11:06] <SuperMetal> still no sounds
[11:07] <ActionParsnip1> SuperMetal: did you rename the folder to test?
[11:07] <SuperMetal> Yes
[11:07] <mefisto__> SuperMetal: installing mplayer (especially if you had it installed before) might magically make things work. it's happened to me
[11:07] <SuperMetal> smplayer is already the newest version
[11:09] <SuperMetal> aplay %s works
[11:09] <SuperMetal> for a command
[11:10] <SuperMetal> I guess that's good enough
[11:10] <glow_wolf> How do i view my pc hardware in 8.10 i cant find any thing in help
[11:11] <SuperMetal> I guess I can rename .goattypurple back to .purple
[11:13] <mefisto__> glow_wolf: what do you want? a gui with hardware info?
[11:13] <glow_wolf> Yes
[11:14] <glow_wolf> like in 8.4
[11:14] <mefisto__> glow_wolf: sudo apt-get install kinfocenter
[11:14] <mefisto__> glow_wolf: then find kinfocenter in the menu
[11:14] <SuperMetal> oh yeah, what's a burning program ?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip1> SuperMetal: yes, you can rename back after removing the new one and closing pidgin completely
[11:14] <SuperMetal> while I'm at it
[11:14] <glow_wolf> thanks
[11:14] <ActionParsnip1> SuperMetal: I always have a rollback clause
[11:15] <mefisto__> SuperMetal: k3b
[11:16] <mefisto__> SuperMetal: so you got sounds working in pidgin?
[11:17] <cuznt> my bandwidth will not set in linuxdcpp
[11:17] <SuperMetal> mefisto__: yes, with aplay %s
[11:18] <cuznt> my port for it is open. as others can get my files and fast. but i can not get theirs, NOR can i control my b/w
[11:18] <ujsdsjfn> name jwozniak
[11:32] <jose> hello
[11:33] <jose> can you help me?
[11:34] <jose> i am trying to...
[11:38] <jussi01> jose: do tell what your trying to do... then we can tell you if we can help...
[11:44] <keldrona> hello guys... can't burn audio cds from .mp3s files with k3b. any idea?
[11:45] <mefisto__> keldrona: install libk3b3-extracodecs
[11:47] <ActionParsnip1> keldrona: konqueror cd rip cds too
[11:48] <mefisto__> ActionParsnip1: keldrona wants to make audiocds from mp3s
[11:48] <mefisto__> that konqueror feature is wonderful, btw :)
[11:49] <keldrona> yes, when I'm listening to Dragonforce
[11:50] <ActionParsnip1> haha top genius is dragonforce
[11:50] <keldrona> mefisto__ thanks, now it works! I can enjoy Dragonforce in my car
[11:51]  * mefisto__ looks up dragonforce...
[11:51] <mefisto__> ah, video game metal
[11:52] <ActionParsnip1> mefisto__: pretty much, its fast and complex
[11:52] <keldrona> mefisto__ it's a power metal band from England
[11:53]  * ActionParsnip1 like meshuggah :D
[11:55] <keldrona> See you guys it's time for my daily Finnish lesson
[11:56] <reanimation> hey i am new here
[11:56] <reanimation> can anybody tell me what is kubuntu ?
[11:57] <reanimation> #ubuntu -in
[11:59] <bazhang> reanimation, its an OS
[12:00] <reanimation> which type of os
[12:08] <ActionParsnip1> that looked fun
[12:12] <SuperMetal> so is there anyway to run the screen saver when the screen is locked?
[12:12] <SuperMetal> Or perhaps to run the screensaver
[12:12] <DreadKnight> SuperMetal: you can do that with kde4.2 at least
[12:12] <ActionParsnip1> SuperMetal: look in systemsettings, see what the screensaver says it can do
[12:13] <DreadKnight> SuperMetal: systemsettings/desktop/screensaver
[12:13] <DreadKnight> SuperMetal: and you have a checkbox for locking down there
[12:14] <SuperMetal> DreadKnight: Correct, however I don't see a way to make it in to a short cut to run the screen saver
[12:14] <SuperMetal> such as ctrl + alt + l
[12:14] <SuperMetal> to lock the screen
[12:14] <DreadKnight> hmm
[12:15] <DreadKnight> i think i understand what you want
[12:15] <SuperMetal> yes, I want it to function like gnome
[12:15] <SuperMetal> and bring up the screen saver when locked
[12:15] <DreadKnight> good suggestion
[12:20] <mefisto__> can't you lock the screen from the menu?
[12:22] <mefisto__> locking it should bring up whatever screensaver you have set
[12:25] <mefisto__> ctrl-alt-L works too. am I missing something?
[12:25] <alexandre> hey
[12:25] <jose> hello
[12:26] <SuperMetal> i see the problem
[12:26] <SuperMetal> the screen saver actually isn't working
[12:27] <SuperMetal> there, i changed to another one and it works
[12:27] <jose> supermetal are you talking to me?
[12:29] <mefisto__> is that a de niro impression?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip1> hhehe
[12:33] <ActionParsnip1> is he talking italian?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip1> and waiting :D:D
[12:33] <Dr_willis> No Hoblo.
[12:34] <Dr_willis> thats weird.. I enter a item to serach for in the little search box at the top right of firefox and i get some error dialog box.
[12:35] <Dr_willis> ASSERT: *** Search: _installLocation: engine has no file!
[12:36] <Dr_willis> not sure if its a google issue.. or firefox issue.
[12:37] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_willis: let me websearch
[12:37] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_willis: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/212465
[12:37] <Dr_willis> yea the searches work after i get rid of the dialog box
[12:38] <Dr_willis> does it on google and yahoo
[12:38] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_willis: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1011825
[12:38] <mefisto__> Dr_willis: did firefox just get upgraded?
[12:38] <Dr_willis> Not sure.. i did some updates last night
[12:39] <ActionParsnip1> I created a new profile, navigated to Mycroft search engine project: http://mycroft.mozdev.org/, added Google-US search, and copied google-us.xml to the search plugins folder of the broken profile.
[12:39] <mefisto__> stop firefox, make sure it's not still running, then start it again
[12:40] <shadeslayer> hi i just ran an update and kosole gave me a error,ill paste in  a sec
[12:40] <mefisto__> sudo killall firefox
[12:40] <Dr_willis> i think the download window was counting as firefox being 'open' :)
[12:40] <ActionParsnip1> haaha classic
[12:40] <Dr_willis> and it was on another desktop
[12:41] <ActionParsnip1> is there a 64bit tar.bz2 on the mozilla site for firefox, i'm trying to get rid all this gnome fluff it insists on bringing along
[12:42] <darksmoke> hey guys is there something like cmake-gui for normal configure scripts ?
[12:42] <shadeslayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/119655/
[12:42] <shadeslayer> any idea if the update is messed up and i should run it again??
[12:42] <afeijo> I'm trying to compact a current folder (no recursive) with tar, what would be the proper command? tar -c newfile . ?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: its fine
[12:44] <mefisto__> ActionParsnip1: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=517749&sid=87a7d6d385a9da72e250edeb70fe4007
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: mine does something like that but i ignore it, you could websearch one of them to see what causes it
[12:45] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[12:45] <shadeslayer> should i re run the update??
[12:46] <ActionParsnip1> ty mefisto__
[12:46] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: you can but you are already updated
[12:47] <shadeslayer> ok
[12:47] <shadeslayer> thanks
[12:48] <drostie> open question: how would I get an application (specifically knetworkmanager) to start right after login?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip1> !startup
[12:49] <drostie> ActionParsnip1: thanks. I'll try the autostart method.
[12:49] <ActionParsnip1> drostie: i use the symlink method, or a script in the same folder
[12:51] <mefisto__> I wish I could stop knetworkmanager from starting on every login
[12:53] <ActionParsnip1> mefisto__: uninstall it
[12:53] <ActionParsnip1> mefisto__: i think its garbage
[12:54] <mefisto__> ActionParsnip1: heh, funny that never occurred to me
[12:54] <ActionParsnip1> another root logger oner, great :(
[12:56] <altrortla> #openoffice
[12:56] <mefisto__> apt thinks knetworkmanager is not installed
[12:57] <drostie> ActionParsnip1: thank you so much! works like a dream. ^_^
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> drostie: np bro
[13:00] <altrortla> !openoffice
[13:01] <ActionParsnip1> mefisto__: dpkg -l | grep manager
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> !find networkmanager
[13:04] <mefisto__> the package was network-manager-kde
[13:04] <mefisto__> thanks ActionParsnip1
[13:05] <ActionParsnip1> mefisto__: np bro
[13:10] <numan> i am having problem with sound
[13:11] <Tm_T> !sound | numan
[13:15] <mefisto__> what ever happened to konqueror's browser identification icon?
[13:15] <ockonal_> mefisto_: ?
[13:16] <mefisto__> ockonal_: in hardy, there is a button you can put on the toolbar, like user agent switcher. it's still in konqueror's settings, but no toolbar button as far as I can tell
[13:19] <DJ_Synergy> hello again ... refly
[13:19] <KORBEN_x64> hi
[13:19] <DJ_Synergy> my konqueror connects to ftp but NOT to http
[13:20] <DJ_Synergy> kopete works fine ... as you can see, koversation works fine ...
[13:20] <DJ_Synergy> but konqueror will not connect http-protocol
[13:21] <DJ_Synergy> please help me ...
[13:21] <Tm_T> DJ_Synergy: how this "http not working" is tested?
[13:21] <DJ_Synergy> so .. as you can see, Konversation connects to irc ...
[13:22] <DJ_Synergy> kopete connects to icq, aol, yahoo, ...
[13:22] <DJ_Synergy> konqueror connects to my ftp-server as well
[13:22] <DJ_Synergy> but ... if i want to open http://www.google.de  .. i got a error-message
[13:23] <Tm_T> DJ_Synergy: try www.google.com
[13:23] <Tm_T> DJ_Synergy: or others
[13:23] <DJ_Synergy> dowsn't work
[13:23] <Tm_T> DJ_Synergy: then, if still fails, try ping www.google.com
[13:23] <DJ_Synergy> tried many pages ... but no connection
[13:23] <DJ_Synergy> ok .. moment
[13:23] <mefisto__> DJ_Synergy: just konqueror, or any browser?
[13:24] <DJ_Synergy> 64bytes
[13:24] <DJ_Synergy> 64bytes
[13:24] <DJ_Synergy> ping works
[13:24] <DJ_Synergy> i only got konqueror at the moment
[13:25] <Tm_T> DJ_Synergy: what is the final line when you ctrl+c ping?
[13:25] <DJ_Synergy> i'm using an UMTS-Connection with an HUAWEI-3G-Modem
[13:25] <DJ_Synergy> maybe that's a problem?
[13:26] <bindaas> hellos,some how every thing has started to appear super small in kubutu intrepid,how can i go back to default setting
[13:27] <DJ_Synergy> nobody here with an idea, what the problem is ???
[13:27] <Dr_willis> You mean to say your resolution of the screen has gotten 'higher' thus making everything else  show up 'smaller' ? bindaas ?
[13:28] <bindaas> Dr_Willis : yes
[13:28] <DJ_Synergy> so i am not an linux-newbie ... but an ubuntu-newbie :) ... and i don't know, why the konqueror is connecting my FTP ... but no http-sites
[13:29] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[13:29] <KORBEN_x64> i am using an UMTS 3G Huawei modem right now and it works fine
[13:29] <bindaas> DJ_Synergy: firewall may be blocking http port
[13:29] <Dr_willis> Users can select their own resolutiion i recall from the controlpanel stuff
[13:30] <bindaas> Dr_Willis : thanks for the pointer
[13:30] <DJ_Synergy> yeah korben .. it works fine for me too ... but konqueror connects to ftp but not to http ...
[13:30] <DJ_Synergy> connected with KPPP ???
[13:30] <KORBEN_x64> network-manager
[13:30] <KORBEN_x64> not KPPP
[13:30] <DJ_Synergy> hmm .. maybe that's the point ???
[13:30] <KORBEN_x64> maybe
[13:31]  * Dr_willis is confused
[13:31] <DJ_Synergy> hmm ...
[13:31] <DJ_Synergy> i will stard the network-manager
[13:31] <KORBEN_x64> i don't know... newbie with ubuntu too ;)
[13:31] <DJ_Synergy> ^^
[13:32] <KORBEN_x64> but, try to install firefox from terminal with apt and see what happens ;)
[13:32] <DJ_Synergy> how have you configured the meodem with network-manager ???
[13:33] <KORBEN_x64> "New broadband connection/and fill the settings from your provider" :)
[13:33] <DJ_Synergy> hehehe wich verison of ubuntu do you have ???
[13:33] <DJ_Synergy> xDDD
[13:33] <KORBEN_x64> intrepid
[13:33] <DJ_Synergy> i'v got kubunto 7.04   ^
[13:33] <KORBEN_x64> woops
[13:33] <DJ_Synergy> there is no such thing ^^
[13:34] <KORBEN_x64> i suggest you to move to intrepid :P
[13:34] <DJ_Synergy> ok .. i should do ^
[13:34] <KORBEN_x64> 8.10 is my first ubuntu system so i don't know where you can configure your connection in 7.04
[13:35] <DJ_Synergy> can intrepid be installed from usb ???
[13:35] <KORBEN_x64> but, try my former suggestion... try to install firefox manually with apt, and check if it works right :)
[13:35] <Dr_willis> DJ_Synergy,  with the unetbootin tool. ive made usb-installable thumbdrives for all the ubuntu releases.. and many other distros
[13:35] <ockonal_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=879212
[13:35] <ockonal_> DJ_Synergy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=879212
[13:36] <ockonal_> KORBEN_x64: what connection?
[13:36] <DJ_Synergy> ok thx ... i will change to intrepid now ^
[13:36] <ockonal_> ^_^
[13:37] <DJ_Synergy> korben ... with "sudo apt-get install firefox" ... adept will not find any package
[13:37] <KORBEN_x64> ockonal: a broadband umts-3g one... it seems he has something misconfigured and can't utilize http protocol with konqueror
[13:37] <KORBEN_x64> Synergy: first of all you should do a "sudo apt-get update"
[13:37] <DJ_Synergy> i've done
[13:38] <KORBEN_x64> mmh...
[13:38] <KORBEN_x64> interesting... :P
[13:38] <DJ_Synergy> updated the list ... some servers does not answer but thats ok, right
[13:38] <KORBEN_x64> try with Iceweasel
[13:39] <DJ_Synergy> apt-get install iceweasel ???
[13:39] <KORBEN_x64> yep
[13:39] <Dr_willis> !find iceweasle
[13:39] <Dr_willis> !find iceweasel
[13:39] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:39] <DJ_Synergy> don't find the package
[13:39] <KORBEN_x64> ubottu: he's utilizing 7.04, not intrepid
[13:39] <DJ_Synergy> and i also tried with wine now ... don't find package
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> !info kazehakase
[13:40] <KORBEN_x64> it's estrange... they should be available... check your apt sources list
[13:41] <KORBEN_x64> strange
[13:41] <KORBEN_x64> not Estrange
[13:41] <KORBEN_x64> :P
[13:42] <DJ_Synergy> ok .. so i've done a new update of list ...
[13:42] <ActionParsnip1> DJ_Synergy: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.lst
[13:42] <DJ_Synergy> trying iceweasel now
[13:43] <mefisto__> um, is 7.04 still supported?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> !7.04
[13:43] <KORBEN_x64> i don't think so, mefisto :)
[13:43] <Tm_T> is not
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> 7.04 dead
[13:43] <afeijo> how can I use wget to download just *.png files in any folders in a http?]
[13:44] <DJ_Synergy> hmm .. i think i will update to intrepid
[13:44] <shadeslayer> hehe
[13:44] <KORBEN_x64> wise decission ;)
[13:44] <DJ_Synergy> i will just forget this holy crap with this connection ^
[13:44] <DJ_Synergy> it taked hopurs to set up the connection with kppp
[13:44] <DJ_Synergy> xDD
[13:45] <KORBEN_x64> it's seamless with intrepid
[13:45] <KORBEN_x64> :)
[13:45] <DJ_Synergy> ok .. download intrepid now ... with my notebook ^
[13:45] <KORBEN_x64> i only had some issues with the sound card in my desktop computer... but it worked out of the box with my laptop :P
[13:46] <Bauldrick> i still can't login to MY account after upgrdae yesterday - i have to console login and then issue startx, how can i fix that?
[13:46] <KORBEN_x64> your session manager is working? XDM or KDM or GDM
[13:46] <drostie> afeijo: type [man wget] into a konsole.
[13:47] <Dr_willis> that is logging into your account :)    just not using kdm/gdm/xdm to login,.
[13:47] <Dr_willis> try a 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start' and see if any error messages show up from the console.
[13:48] <mefisto__> just noticed mouse scrolling works in man pages now
[13:48] <Bauldrick> its only my user that doesn't, i created another that works and the other user that was on there works also
[13:48] <afeijo> drostie: I am reading the manual, quite long, cant find it
[13:48] <Dr_willis> Bauldrick,  so you mean to say that KDM starts, but this One user can not login via KDM ?
[13:49] <Bauldrick> Dr_willis: yes, thats it
[13:49] <KORBEN_x64> afeijo: http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/manual/html_node/Recursive-Retrieval-Options.html
[13:49] <Kryczek> Hi! I think I just found a "packaging-related issue" while trying to install KDE 4.2 on Intrepid:
[13:50] <Kryczek> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa7_i386.deb (--unpack):
[13:50] <Kryczek>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kconf_update_bin/plasma-add-shortcut-to-menu', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-bin
[13:50] <Bauldrick> Dr_willis: after yesterdays update my hdd went to 100% (which has something to do with this im sure) but it should only be about 30 % full
[13:50] <mefisto__> Bauldrick: is your home dir, especially .kde, owned by you?
[13:50] <Bauldrick> mefisto__: i have since chown it and chmod 755
[13:51] <afeijo> KORBEN_x64: thanks, so its no possible what I want.
[13:51] <noren> ahh about to complete my update to kde4.2
[13:52] <KORBEN_x64> i don't know... try with curl, i think it has similar capabilities
[13:52] <mefisto__> Kryczek: can you install kdebase-workspace-bin first?
[13:53] <Kryczek> ah... i tried apt-get remove'ing the 4.1.4 package first
[13:53] <drostie> afeijo: well, if you can get directory listings, you might be able to parse it through something that's regex-aware and then back into wget. But wget doesn't have regex-aware recursion.
[13:53] <drostie> afeijo: (or at least, that's what I can find from a cursory reading of the man page.)
[13:53] <afeijo> found! -A.png
[13:53] <afeijo> thanks mates
[13:54] <drostie> heh, or that. never mind. ^_^
[13:55] <afeijo> a friend is doing nice 3d images to my online rpg game ;) I used wget to download jsut the images and .divx
[13:55] <Bauldrick> I get some errors in xserver-errors - are these relevent ... http://pastebin.com/me55c557
[13:55] <Dr_willis> wget '*.png'  - i thought worked... :)
[14:01] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[14:01] <Dr_willis> Oy Oy Oy!
[14:02] <shadeslayer> :)
[14:02] <shadeslayer> oy yo oy
[14:04] <BluesKaj> ahoy
[14:04] <noren> my amarok2 gets hanged aaaat 75 percent of the collection building... what can i do to rectify tht
[14:05] <drostie> noren: figure out what file it's hanging on? (if it's one particular file.)
[14:06] <noren> how can  i check tht
[14:07] <mefisto__> noren: I had that problem (a long time ago). it was a filename with unusual characters. renaming the file fixed it
[14:08] <mefisto__> noren: is your music collection from a windows disk?
[14:09] <c0p3rn1c> khelpcenter is not working on ubuntu even not when I install the kde-desktop, this bug exists for olmost 2 years now : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/118466
[14:09] <c0p3rn1c> is there any way in fixing this ?
[14:11] <noren> no all my music files are on /home partition,, if checking the file name...whats the standard
[14:11] <khalidmian> can someone help me with thi error message?
[14:11] <khalidmian> Reading package lists... Done
[14:11] <khalidmian> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
[14:11] <Tm_T> khalidmian: its only a warning, you can safely ignore it
[14:11] <khalidmian> ty
[14:12] <c0p3rn1c> hi ActionParsnip1, how are you ? :)
[14:12] <khalidmian> any clue how one can upgrade to kottrent 3.2 via sudo command?
[14:13] <c0p3rn1c> where do you get the time to help so many people ActionParsnip1? I wish I could do the same...
[14:13] <ActionParsnip1> c0p3rn1c: my job has a tonne of dead time so i ocupy myself here
[14:13] <c0p3rn1c> nice!
[14:14] <c0p3rn1c> ActionParsnip1: what kind of job do you have?
[14:14] <noren> wwell is there any other way round to create the collection inn amarok2
[14:14] <ActionParsnip1> c0p3rn1c: i babsit sql/citrix servers overnight and do a few backups
[14:14] <Tm_T> !ot | c0p3rn1c
[14:15] <c0p3rn1c> Tm_T: will do :)
[14:15] <ActionParsnip1> pm if you want duder
[14:20] <c0p3rn1c> is there also a channel to talk about kubuntu bugs?
[14:20] <BluesKaj> trying to install kubuntu 8.10 on wife's vista pc using wubi (I don't feel like fooling around with the vista bootloader problems ) , buty her processor is 64 bit and the graphics driver available for that platform is terrible , so i'm trying to find a way to install 32 bit using wubi.  I've read some suggestions to like  "pass --32bit " when installing it , but I don't recall such an option. Her Vista is a factory installed 32 bit version.
[14:20] <BluesKaj> !launchpad
[14:20] <ActionParsnip1> BluesKaj: what video card is it?
[14:21] <BluesKaj> its the on nvidia GeForce 6150 nforce 430, ActionParsnip1
[14:21] <BluesKaj> onboard
[14:22] <ActionParsnip1> BluesKaj: i have that card, its cool
[14:22] <KORBEN_x64> BluesKaj:
[14:22] <KORBEN_x64> Can I force Wubi to download and install a 32 bit version of Ubuntu?
[14:22] <KORBEN_x64> Yes, either pre-download the appropriate 32 bit ISO manually and place it in the same folder as Wubi.exe or start Wubi with the "--32bit" argument.
[14:22] <ActionParsnip1> BluesKaj: is it an Asus Pundit?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip1> BluesKaj: its supported by the 177 driver in intrepid :D
[14:22] <khalidmian> hi i have the following issue SystemError: E:Malformed line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist), E:The list of sources could not be re
[14:23] <khalidmian> how can i edit sources.list via terminal
[14:23] <KORBEN_x64> sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:26]  * genii makes a pot of coffee
[14:26] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip1 , what wubi folder , there's only the application install icon
[14:27] <shadeslayer_> BluesKaj: maybe he means C:\Ubuntu
[14:27] <ActionParsnip1> BluesKaj: yes you install wubi like a windows app then you will have linux, i never mentioned a folder)
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> BluesKaj: the card is supported in intrepid by the nvidia-glx-177 driver (which you said was weird)
[14:28] <BluesKaj> KORBEN_x64  what wubi folder , there's only the application install icon ?
[14:29] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip1 , it won't install on 64 bit
[14:29] <BluesKaj> the graphics drivers
[14:30] <ActionParsnip1> BluesKaj: which drivers do yu have, you dont install any explicitly, you do it via apt / synaptic / aptitude
[14:32] <BluesKaj> I used the restricted driver app recommended driver , used apt for the 177 but it won't install on a 64 bit platform
[14:32] <BluesKaj> hence the 32 bit query
[14:35] <ActionParsnip1> BluesKaj: it should install the 64bit video driver from the 64bit repos
[14:35] <khalidmian> any help on this error? CMake Error: The source directory "/home/khalidmian/Desktop/ktorrent-3.2/build" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt.
[14:35] <ActionParsnip1> BluesKaj: im not the best guy to ask, ive never used wubi. I think its a godawful idea
[14:36] <BluesKaj> I'm not asking about the nvidia driver as such ActionParsnip1, because the 64 bit one doesn't work or won't install ..I think a 32 bit install will work since the Vista install is 32 bit
[14:37] <ActionParsnip1> im unsure how wubi handles that sort of thing
[14:37] <ActionParsnip1> if the vista is 32bit, i would install 32bit linux
[14:41] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip1 , exactly , that's why I asked the question in the first place :)
[14:42] <c0p3rn1c> imho wubi can handle 64 bit, because you just mount a ntfs directory and install your full ubuntu there
[14:43] <ActionParsnip1> i think it should die just like the live gentoo cd
[14:45] <khalidmian> hi any help on cmake issue
[14:47] <mefisto__> khalidmian: does CMakeLists.txt exist in that directory?
[14:48] <khalidmian> mefisto__: let me check
[14:49] <antonio__> ciao
[14:50] <genii> Hm
[14:50] <kuaera> genii! \o/
[14:50] <genii> Hi kuaera
[14:51] <kuaera> genii: Good morning. I needed to share some random joy after getting internet back up on my laptop. Knetworkmanager no longer acts on encrypted wireless networks [Jaunty] :(
[14:52]  * genii hands out the celebratory coffee and cookies
[14:52] <ActionParsnip1> !coffee
[14:52] <genii> ActionParsnip1: :)
[14:52] <Dr_willis> !tea
[14:52] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_willis: tea > coffee
[14:52] <shadeslayer_> :D
[14:53] <Dr_willis> !beer
[14:53] <genii> Dr_willis: The bot's beverage knowledge seems to be limited to coffee
[14:53] <shadeslayer_> lol
[14:53] <genii> Oh, and beer
[14:53] <kuaera> genii: Instant karma \o/
[14:53] <shadeslayer_> !java
[14:53] <shadeslayer_> :P
[14:57]  * khalidmian gives up on trying to install ktorrent-3.2
[14:58] <mefisto__> khalidmian: have you seen this: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KTorrent?content=26353   look at the post at the bottom. I don't know if I would trust that repo though
[15:01] <ActionParsnip1> khalidmian: i had it, its faster but doesnt like web interface
[15:07] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip1: just trying to compile it but cant seem to at all
[15:10] <ActionParsnip1> khalidmian: there are some packages about. Let me see if i can relocate
[15:11] <AndySpain> hi!
[15:11] <AndySpain> how can i have kubuntu auto-mount my ntfs partition on /dev/sda1?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip1> AndySpain: /dev/sda1 IS the partition, you mount it to a folder
[15:12] <AndySpain> yes i know
[15:12] <AndySpain> there it is
[15:12] <AndySpain> and i want it mounted to /mnt/sda1
[15:12] <AndySpain> but automatically at each startup
[15:12] <Dr_willis> then you make a proper entry in /etc/fstab
[15:13] <ActionParsnip1> AndySpain: add an entry for it in /etc/fstab
[15:13] <gothpaw> interestingly, whenever I try to change the screen resolution Kubuntu freezes up on me and I am able to do nothing except restart the computer with the reboot button on the front of my tower. Any ideas as to why this would be happening???
[15:13] <AndySpain> so i don't have to do sudo mount  every time
[15:13] <Dr_willis> AndySpain,  you got it.
[15:13] <Dr_willis> !fstab
[15:13] <AndySpain> what entry?
[15:13] <Dr_willis> fstab is documented all over the place :)
[15:13] <AndySpain> Thank you ActionParsnip! and Dr_willis
[15:14] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip1: i got deb file for ktorrent
[15:14] <ActionParsnip1> khalidmian: theres ktorrent data which you'll need too
[15:15] <AndySpain> one stupid question: is there a key combination to change between tabs in konqueror ? ctrl+tab doesn't work
[15:15] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip1: when installing ktorrent3.2 deb file i get dependecy not satisfiable:amarok-nightly-qt
[15:16] <Dr_willis> sounds like it wants some up tio date amarok also
[15:16] <Cruster> hi there, I created a service menu and put it in ~/.kde/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus, but it doesn't show in right click. What I've done wrong?
[15:16] <gothpaw> does anyone know why when I try to change the screen resolution Kubuntu just locks up on me leaving me able to do nothing at all?
[15:17] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip1: when installing ktorrent3.2 deb file i get dependecy not satisfiable:amarok-nightly-qt
[15:17] <khalidmian> any clue?
[15:17] <ActionParsnip1> khalidmian: you need the neon repos adding
[15:17] <ActionParsnip1> !neon
[15:18] <Dr_willis> heh that prokect mauy have up to date ktorrent :)
[15:20] <Cruster> anyone about service menus?
[15:21] <Dr_willis> never used them sorry
[15:21] <Dr_willis> I would check for tyos in the path/name/executable bits..
[15:21] <gothpaw> anyone for my screen res issue?
[15:21] <Dr_willis> and google for examples of service menus
[15:23] <Cruster> Dr_willis: this menu is based on a simple one I found on the net...anyway thanks
[15:26] <Dr_willis> the whole 'custome menu' feautre of gnome and kde - both get overlooked.
[15:27] <ockonal_> ))))))))))))
[15:29] <gothpaw> what options do I have for changing the screen resolution?
[15:30] <Dr_willis> edit the xorg.conf and set the res there - is one way
[15:30] <gothpaw> Dr_willis: hopefully that one works. This KRandRTray keeps freezing the system everytime I do it that way
[15:32] <Dr_willis> krandtray uses the xrand features of the xserver. that may have changed with the latest x server changes.. or your video drivers
[15:33] <gothpaw> Dr_willis: figured as much, but whatever way works is good for me as I can't see half the stuff on the screen, lol
[15:36] <ofv> hi. mouse interaction with the taskbar is slow (after a click kubuntu needs approx 30 seconds to react)
[15:36] <ofv> keyboard is fine though.
[15:37] <ofv> i'm using kde 4.2 on 8.10
[15:37] <ofv> mouse works fine with other apps (including kde apps)
[15:41] <gothpaw> Dr_willis: I'm looking for "DisplaySize"  to set the resolution correct? Been a while since I edited this file, a long long while....\
[15:42] <Laeborg> hello
[15:43] <Dr_willis> gothpaw,  ive not had to edit it in ages.. with my LCD montiors and dvi conector. X always gets my res right.
[15:43] <Laeborg> im pretty new to kubuntu, but im just in love with this OS :D
[15:43] <Dr_willis> gothpaw,  you are using a lcd monitor? DVI conector? KVM switch? VGA monitor? or what exactly?
[15:43] <Laeborg> but i have a little problem with my gfx, intel media accelerator x3100, when i run a glxgears, i only have a avarage FPS on 200
[15:44] <Laeborg> and i can't get openGL to work.
[15:44] <kuaera> Uh? glxgears kinda requires OpenGL
[15:44] <gothpaw> Dr_willis: LCD, no dvi (however I could change it to a dvi cable)
[15:45] <Laeborg> well i have installed steam via PlayOnLinux (wine) and there i can only use software mode, not openGL
[15:46] <gothpaw> Dr_willis: should I try switching the cable before I change the screen res. right now I swear this is 640x480 as I can't see half the stuff on the screen, lol ... was hoping for at least 1280x1024 or higher
[15:47] <khalidmian> can one uninstall amarok nightly?
[15:48] <kuaera> khalidmian: Yes.
[15:48] <Dr_willis> if you canuse DVI -- then USE DVI.. :) end of story on that bit..
[15:49] <kuaera> Laeborg: I'm uncertain what to tell you, aside from the fact that Intel acceleration support is very iffy
[15:49] <Dr_willis> Ive had that 'dvi vs vga' argument befor with some guuys at work.. DVI works so much better.
[15:49] <khalidmian> kuaera: how do i uninstall amarok-nightly
[15:49] <Dr_willis> apt-get remove whatever
[15:49] <Dr_willis> same as ya installed it. :)
[15:54] <sy> hello
[15:55] <Dr_willis> Mello
[15:56] <sy> why nobody an
[15:56] <Dr_willis> Hmm?
[15:57] <sy> je parle français
[15:58] <genii> sy: Best to just ask whatever support question you have in English. Or travel to french support by:  /join #kubuntu-fr
[15:59] <gothpaw> Dr_willis: DVI is possible. My monitor has a built in switch to go between 2 PC's. The DVI is on the other machine, but I can swap them around easy enough
[15:59] <sy> hello
[15:59] <gothpaw> Dr_willis: is there anything I need to change to move it to DVI, or could it be as simple as just changing the cable?
[16:00] <sy> iam looking woman
[16:00] <khalidmian> Dr_willis: was able to run ktorrent 3,2 deb file but version says im still on 3.12
[16:01] <sy> i want go out with you
[16:01] <Dr_willis> gothpaw,  with dvi when you restart the X server it 'should' in theory get the proper info.   It may be that 'switching btween 2 pc's" that is goofing things up
[16:02] <genii> sy: This is not the channel to find a date in.
[16:02] <zipper_> how to install webcam on kubuntu
[16:02] <Dr_willis>  theres lots of Hot babes in #linux :)
[16:02] <sy> i don't know
[16:02] <Dr_willis> zipper_,  i just plug mine in and it works :)
[16:02] <gothpaw> sy: this is NOT a dating channel --- ce n'est pas un canal datant
[16:02] <Dr_willis> !webcam
[16:03] <sy> je suis fatigue
[16:03] <pedro__> ajuda
[16:03] <pedro__> ajuda com linpopup....
[16:03] <gothpaw> !english
[16:03] <sy> tu e une femme ou pas
[16:03] <pedro__> alguem??
[16:04] <zipper_> yes ubuntu  destop cudnot find but kubuntu find it
[16:04] <Suiko> moin dudes
[16:04] <pedro__> :(
[16:04] <Suiko> does anybody know a solution for the netgear sc101 nas and linux?
[16:04] <sy> i know
[16:04] <pedro__> nick
[16:05] <Dr_willis> the desktop shouldent matter.. since its ther kernel drivers that get loaded  are the same.. it may be the app you are using needs to be configured to see the camera. test it with 'cheese' perhaps?
[16:05] <pedro__> !kick
[16:05] <genii> sy: Cet endroit est pour l'aide avec Kubuntu. Si vous avez besoin du support technique, faites la demande en anglais. Si vous essayez d'avoir une vie sociale svp allez ailleurs.
[16:05] <Suiko> you know, i need a how to...for dummys
[16:06] <Suiko> anybody else, how to mount a netgear sc101 nas
[16:06] <Dr_willis> is it working as a samba fileserver?
[16:06] <Suiko> nope
[16:07] <Dr_willis> for my ximeta ndas i had to compile a special module.. no idea on that netgear one.
[16:07] <Dr_willis> other nas i got - works as a samba server, or ftp server
[16:08] <Suiko> i asked some engineers on the last CeBit, but they didnt knew an answer
[16:08] <gothpaw> well off I go to try the DVI....
[16:08] <gothpaw> Dr_willis: thanks for the help, cross your fingers, lol... gonna try switching the cables now
[16:09] <Dr_willis> when in doubt check the docs I guess.. then again. if the enguineers dont even know.. i wonder how anything even sees that nas. :)
[16:13] <Suiko> but i can ping it....
[16:16] <Dr_willis>  If it was hooked to a windows box.. how does it 'share' the drives?
[16:17] <Dr_willis> nmap it. see what services its running. :) if any
[16:20] <Suiko> nmap?
[16:21] <Suiko> sorry, i am a newby
[16:21] <genii> !info nmap
[16:21] <genii> Suiko: Basically a network prober
[16:21] <Suiko> how do i use it?
[16:22] <Suiko> nmap --help didnt help me at all ^^
[16:23] <gothpaw> Dr_willis: well something still isn't right as now it is telling me that 800x600 is the highest it will go, which I know to be wrong
[16:23] <sy> je cherche une femmmmme
[16:23] <sy> comment ca va
[16:23] <Dr_willis> gothpaw,  you did install the proper vidoe card drivers for whatver card you have?
[16:24] <sy> to change the permission
[16:24] <sy> whta hapen
[16:24] <gothpaw> Dr_willis: I haven't changed anything since the install (just installed this about 3 hours ago) so I am kind of assuming Kubuntu installed the proper drivers
[16:25] <sy> je cherche une femme
[16:25] <Dr_willis> gothpaw,  bad assumtion
[16:25] <Dr_willis> gothpaw,  what is your video card?
[16:25] <sy> whta video card
[16:25] <gothpaw> Nvidia 6600LE I do believe
[16:25] <Dr_willis> Then you need to install the 'nvidia' drivers
[16:26] <sy> yes
[16:26] <Dr_willis> my systems dont have the proper res. untill either untill i install that driver.
[16:26] <Dr_willis> !sudo
[16:26] <gothpaw> Dr_willis: can you point me to a doc about how to do that please
[16:26] <Dr_willis> gothpaw,  theres  shoudl be a 'restricted-driver' hardware-driver icon in the menus :)
[16:26] <Dr_willis> or read at
[16:27] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[16:27] <Dr_willis> or 'kdesudo jockey-kde' and install them
[16:27] <gothpaw> Dr_willis: thanks, you've been much help. I do appreciate it
[16:27] <Dr_willis> there should of been a popup item when ya first startted that mentioned the drivers I recall :)
[16:28] <gothpaw> Dr_willis: there was and still is, but when I tried to run it, it failed
[16:28] <gothpaw> just sat there at 0% downloading for over 1 hour
[16:31] <sy> i have a problem with my linux
[16:31] <sy> it doesn't work
[16:32] <sy> the sound
[16:32] <gothpaw> sy: cant help you if you dont provide proper info on what the problem is
[16:32] <Suiko> interesting scan results
[16:32] <sy> i cain't hear the sound
[16:32] <Suiko> i used nmap now on it and the results are kind of interesting
[16:33] <sy> what i have to do?
[16:34] <fosco__> sy, open the mixer and check the sound volumes, make sure they are not zero or silenced
[16:34] <sy> nobody answer me
[16:34] <sy> ok i will try thak you
[16:36] <sy> i have another problem, i can't install the software
[16:36] <sy> i odn't know why,
[16:36] <fosco__> sy, use the package manager
[16:36] <fosco__> sudo apt-get install program
[16:36] <fosco__> that should work
[16:37] <sy> ok thank you
[16:38] <Suiko> sy: you know a way to get sc101 run on linux?
[16:39] <sy> when i do, sudo apt get install, the name of the software or what
[16:40] <Dr_willis> heh...
[16:40] <fosco__> sy, for example to install firefox: sudo apt-get install firefox
[16:41] <devil> hi
[16:41] <Suiko> hey sy
[16:41] <Suiko> simply use aptitude
[16:42] <Suiko> its the install manager for the system
[16:42] <Dr_willis> http://www.netgear.com/PopUps/RelatedDocument.aspx?DocumentDownloaded=enUS_DS_SC101_25Apr07%20pdf&DocumentDownloadedSrc=/upload/product/sc101/enus_ds_sc101_25apr07.pdf&hasSfID=False&itemID={FB98BFCE-553C-441C-A8BE-D37FA0AFAC7F}&documentTitle=Data%20Sheet
[16:42] <Dr_willis> sc101 manual :)
[16:42] <sy> thank you, i would like to know, how to install the ubuntub in your compter
[16:42] <Suiko> even for linux`?
[16:43] <fosco__> sy, what?
[16:43] <Dr_willis> If the thing is using the normal 'smb' protocall - you access it as you would any other samba server
[16:44] <Suiko> well, its the data sheet
[16:45] <Dr_willis> Yep. they are lacking in any actual manual
[16:45] <Dr_willis> i was researching netgear routers earlier today and noticed that they didene have  much for manuals.
[16:45] <Dr_willis> javascript:;
[16:46] <Dr_willis> joy - their manual download seems to be a javascript link
[16:46] <Dr_willis> their active product tour isent very active :)
[16:46] <Dr_willis> http://syndicate.sellpoint.net/Netgear__Inc_/10742/2051-GJ2L6N-20-player-T1_MP/MPPlayer/MPPlayer.html?Master=Self&PlayerTitle=&ShoppingCart=http%3A%2F%2Fsyndicate.sellpoint.net%2FNetgear__Inc_%2F10742%2F__buybutton__.html&LVerify=Syn-9IOYGH-10769&Width=536&Height=525&ParentUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.netgear.com%2FProducts%2FStorage%2FNetworkStorage%2FSC101.aspx%3Fdetail%3DSystem%2BRequirements#
[16:46] <Dr_willis> has a link to the manual at the right side
[16:47] <Suiko> it isnt available
[16:48] <Dr_willis> it is. :) its just slow.
[16:48] <Suiko> nope, its writen there
[16:48] <Dr_willis> 1. First, Install a hard disk, and connect the Storage Central SC101 to your network.
[16:48] <Dr_willis> 2. Next, Install the Storage Central SC101 software.
[16:48] <Dr_willis> Looks like it uses special software
[16:48] <Dr_willis> so linux support may not exist
[16:48] <Suiko> jup
[16:49] <Suiko> there is a project by googlecode
[16:49] <Suiko> but i dont know how to handle it
[16:49] <Dr_willis> Then  looks like you have been asking a question that you allready have the answer for.
[16:49] <Dr_willis> sad the thing couldent just work as a nfs server.. that would be nice
[16:50] <sy> thank you, i must go to now see next time.
[16:51] <Suiko> very sad
[16:55] <Suiko> ut listall didnt list anything at all
[16:58] <Dr_willis> Huh?
[16:58] <ajfahmi> hello guys
[16:58] <ajfahmi> k3b didnt detect my drive ?
[16:58] <ajfahmi> how can i fix that ?
[16:59] <Dr_willis> there used to be a k3b setup menu item/command.. in the k3b menus i recall...
[16:59] <Dr_willis> or check what your optical drive is really called. and doublt check the /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd (or other links) are pointing to..
[17:00] <Dr_willis>  ls -l /dev/dvd
[17:00] <Dr_willis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2009-02-17 21:32 /dev/dvd -> scd0
[17:00] <Dr_willis> my 'dvd' is actially /dev/sdc0  - i could tell k3b to use /dev/sdc0 instead of /dev/dvd if i wanted tio
[17:01] <ajfahmi> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2009-02-17 21:32 /dev/dvd -> scd0
[17:02] <ajfahmi> Dr_willis how do i do that ?/
[17:02] <Dr_willis> so chkeck k3b settings be sure its access ing /dev/dvd i guess..
[17:02] <Dr_willis> run k3b from a terminal also. and look for any error messages
[17:03] <Dr_willis> when i do that i see a lot of lines like ..............
[17:03] <Dr_willis> (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/scd0: init()
[17:03] <Dr_willis> (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/scd0 feature: CD Mastering
[17:03] <Dr_willis> shows its using /dev/sdc0 :)
[17:03] <Dr_willis> K3b  menus --> Settings -> configure k3b shows devices it sees also
[17:04] <mefisto__> and there's an "add device" button
[17:05] <ajfahmi> Dr_willis it seems becouse im a normal user
[17:05] <ajfahmi> how can i switch to anotehr user from terminal ?
[17:05] <Dr_willis> sudo commane can do that
[17:06] <Dr_willis> your initial user should be able to burn disks.. but  others may need to be in a specific group
[17:06] <ajfahmi> Dr_willis yes im not on initial user
[17:07] <draik_> Every time I run an app, Kubuntu freezes and forces me to restart it. How can I check the cause?
[17:07] <Dr_willis> there seems to be a cdrom group. but not sure if thats the issue or not ajfahmi
[17:08] <draik_> Also, it seems that doing 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' will freeze too when done in Yakuake.
[17:09] <kuaera> draik_: Actually, I do that string precisely in yakuake all the time
[17:09] <draik_> kuaera: That's actually the full command, but I use the alias
[17:09] <draik_> I created the alias 'dg'
[17:09] <kuaera> I see
[17:10] <draik_> Point being that I can't run an app
[17:10] <draik_> Yakuake is there at startup
[17:10] <kuaera> Hrm. That's really bizarre.
[17:10] <draik_> Yup. I can't run Firefox because it will freeze after a minute of usage.
[17:10] <kuaera> htop?
[17:11] <Dr_willis> try a differnt window maanger as a test... like openbox.
[17:11] <draik_> htop doesn't show anything. I tried that earlier.
[17:11] <Dr_willis>  could be a kde issue i guess.. hard to prove whats going on.
[17:11] <kuaera> htop doesn't crash, though?
[17:11] <draik_> Nope
[17:11] <kuaera> So that's not "every app", just GUI apps
[17:11] <kuaera> Dr_willis has a point.
[17:12] <kuaera> openbox --replace
[17:12] <draik_> Yesterday, however, when I ran 'dg', it would not let me run the install of the packages held back.
[17:12] <kuaera> [Granted, I use openbox all the time and have a remarkably stable Jaunty install]
[17:12] <draik_> Something about a lock on /?/var/something. Sorry, I can't recall the location.
[17:12] <Dr_willis> does openbox support --replace? :)
[17:12] <Dr_willis> ive never nioticed that
[17:12] <kuaera> Yes.
[17:12] <Dr_willis> heh
[17:12] <Dr_willis> twm --replace
[17:12] <Dr_willis> :
[17:12] <draik_> I'm booting up right now
[17:13] <draik_> I'm at the login window
[17:13] <draik_> CTRL+ALT+F1?
[17:13] <kuaera> I've been a *box fan ever since I started using Blackbox for Windows ~6 years ago >_>;
[17:13] <aaroncampbell> I have a problem when trying to restart my machine.  I seems that it will no longer boot.  It has a similar problem a lot, where it tries to boot from (0,0) instead of (1,0) whenever a new kernel is installed.  I just edit that from grub and it usually boots fine.
[17:13] <kuaera> Maybe even 7-8 years. I forget.
[17:13] <draik_> How do I go about getting openbox?
[17:14] <kuaera> 'sudo apt-get install openbox' from the terminal should do the trick
[17:14] <Dr_willis> amazing how simple linux can be. :)
[17:14] <draik_> Last time, it froze on    (Reading database...
[17:15] <draik_> Seems to have completed this time
[17:15] <draik_> This is through TTY1
[17:15] <aaroncampbell> This time however, it said it got tired of waiting on the root drive and asked if it had the right root drive and asked if the wait time was set properly.  It said it was waiting on /dev/disk/by-uuid/96.... and it dropped me to a shell
[17:15] <aaroncampbell> I looked and that uuid maps to sda1 which is the right drive.  What can I do?
[17:15] <draik_> I'm back at my prompt
[17:16] <draik_> How do I get openbox to start now?
[17:16] <Dr_willis> kdm menu - sessions menu item
[17:17] <draik_> Sessions are Default, KDE (previous) and Failsafe
[17:17] <Dr_willis> restart the KDM service
[17:18] <aaroncampbell> Weird, after pressing the reset on my system a few times, it happened every time.  Then after all that looking around at the promt, I typed "exit" and it booted fine.
[17:18] <Dr_willis> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[17:18] <draik_> Thanks
[17:18] <Dr_willis> aaroncampbell,  u You might want to be backing up any imporntant data.. :)
[17:18] <Dr_willis> aaroncampbell,  last i had issues that weird.. the hd was dieing a slow death.
[17:18] <Dr_willis>  Then again its always good idea to have backups
[17:18] <draik_> What the deuce? Now it's in French
[17:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[17:18] <Dr_willis> French? :) Non!
[17:19] <draik_> Benvingut
[17:19] <draik_> Nom d'usuari
[17:19] <draik_> Contrasenya
[17:19] <kuaera> Mm, Nom.
[17:19] <Dr_willis> Tocco Grande!
[17:19] <Dr_willis> Oh wrong place..
[17:19] <aaroncampbell> Dr_willis: The data's on a RAID 5 with 5-500GB drives, so if one fails I can replace it (have a spare sitting right here)
[17:19] <Paddy_EIRE> Does ubuntu have QT4.5 packages?
[17:19] <kuaera> It's lunchtime :(
[17:19] <Dr_willis> "Qiche"
[17:19] <Dr_willis> :)
[17:19] <draik_> Oh well, I can deal with French
[17:19] <kuaera> Paddy_EIRE: Not yet.
[17:19] <Paddy_EIRE> ah ok
[17:19] <draik_> Going into Openbox now
[17:19] <kuaera> Paddy_EIRE: Mostly because Qt4.5 hasn't be released yet...
[17:19] <kuaera> *been
[17:20] <draik_> I think it may have frozen after providing my password. Nothing is happening.
[17:20] <aaroncampbell> But the diagnostics show they're fine, and the RAID is hardware and should perform decently even without one drive (as it has before when I've lost one)
[17:20] <Paddy_EIRE> kuaera hehe... silly me
[17:20] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[17:20] <draik_> Yep, froze. HDD light no longer flickering.
[17:20] <kuaera> Though, speak of the devil
[17:20] <kuaera> I'm compiling Qt4.5 right now :O
[17:20] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[17:20] <Paddy_EIRE> the thought had crossed my mind
[17:21] <kuaera> It's not too challenging to compile it, really.
[17:21] <Paddy_EIRE> ./configure && make && make install
[17:21] <Paddy_EIRE> ?
[17:21] <kuaera> Pretty much.
[17:21] <Paddy_EIRE> I will read a little more on it
[17:21] <Paddy_EIRE> thanks though :)
[17:22] <kuaera> Except I do ./configure -no-exceptions -no-qt3support -nomake demos -nomake examples
[17:22] <draik_> I like to add   && echo SUCCESS!    at the end just to make sure it all finished nicely.
[17:22] <Paddy_EIRE> draik_: good thinking
[17:22] <draik_> :)
[17:24] <Paddy_EIRE> kuaera where do I actually download it?
[17:24] <draik_> Seems that the login fails to boot me into the system
[17:25] <ubuntu_> hello
[17:25] <kuaera> Paddy_EIRE: Uh. I usually get it from the qt-snapshot git repo
[17:25] <Genesist> What's news? :)
[17:26] <draik_> GUI login is just there, not going anywhere.
[17:26] <draik_> I go to TTY1 and I'm able to do some work there.
[17:26] <kuaera> draik_: startx from the terminal?
[17:27] <draik_> remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again
[17:27] <draik_> rm /tmp/.X0-lock         ?
[17:28] <kuaera> Might want to kill kdm and any X sessions first
[17:28] <draik_> How so?
[17:28] <kuaera> (I'm kinda grasping at straws here, so)
[17:28] <kuaera> sudo killall kdm
[17:28] <kuaera> sudo killall X
[17:28] <draik_> sudo killall is aliased 'die'
[17:28] <draik_> :)
[17:29] <draik_> kdm: no process killed
[17:29] <draik_> X: no process killed
[17:29] <kuaera> Odd.
[17:29] <kuaera> And there's still a lockfile in place? I guess you could forcefully remove it and then try startx
[17:30] <draik_> Openbox or Openbox Session?
[17:30] <kuaera> Uhm. Context?
[17:30] <draik_> Session type
[17:30] <kuaera> Openbox, I guess.
[17:31] <draik_> KDE    KDE/Openbox  Openbox   Openbox Session
[17:31] <draik_> Those are my options
[17:31] <kuaera> Openbox
[17:33] <draik_> OK
[17:33] <draik_> I do that, but then nothing happens
[17:33] <draik_> The login prompt goes away and I'm just left with the background
[17:33] <kuaera> Right click on the desktop.
[17:34] <kuaera> If it's Openbox, you'll get a simplistic menu
[17:34] <fosco__> draik_, right clic on the wallpaper
[17:34] <draik_> Ah
[17:34] <draik_> OK
[17:34] <draik_> I have something there.
[17:34] <fosco__> you'll see the openbox menu
[17:34] <draik_> Yup
[17:34] <fosco__> that IS openbox
[17:34] <fosco__> :)
[17:34] <draik_> I was expecting to see my own wallpaper
[17:35] <fosco__> execute obconf to set the wallpaper, theme and more
[17:35] <kuaera> draik_: Your wallpaper was set in KDE; there's no KDE elements visible with basic Openbox, so.
[17:36] <draik_> Awesome.
[17:36] <draik_> I'm going to start Firefox now. Let's see what happens
[17:38] <draik_> :(
[17:38] <draik_> It froze
[17:40] <kuaera> draik_: So...it's not the window manager or the desktop environment
[17:40] <draik_> Nope, guess not.
[17:41] <kuaera> I'm not quite sure how to troubleshoot past this point
[17:41] <kuaera> I used to get random lockups on my laptop while in X when I had certain kernels running