[09:13] <dooglus_> if I double-click a text file in gnome, what is the default text editor that it should open in?
[09:16] <silverton> what value would "$datadir" be?
[09:16] <saik0> nybble, just realized you asked about sidescroll. I never did get that working. This is the best thing i found while googling http://floam.sh.nu/index.xhtml?page=guides&section=mx1000
[09:17] <bob2> silverton: what are ryou compiling?
[09:17] <dennis__> Hello
[09:17] <dennis__> Can anyone help me real quick?
[09:17] <bob2> it's easier if you Just Ask
[09:18] <nathanel> dooglus_: whatever editor you prefer? system default is gedit
[09:18] <dennis__> im trying to install the libmp3lame.so thing for audacity
[09:18] <dennis__> And I"m kind of lost
[09:19] <daaku> i'm doing a debootstrap install, and i'm trying to figure out what mdadm is for exactly, and if its required. and if initramfs, something that depends on it, is required?
[09:19] <dooglus_> nathanel: ok, thanks.  it seems I don't have the gedit package installed.  that explains the error message I'm getting.
[09:19] <dennis__> bob2,  can you help?
[09:19] <bob2> daaku: both are more or less needed
[09:19] <bob2> daaku: initramfs is esseitnal if you want to be able to boot
[09:19] <nathanel> dennis__: what did you try already?
[09:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> this is nuts.  why would my sound just stop working?
[09:20] <dennis__> well
[09:20] <dennis__> im kind of lost...I googled it and it said to download the rpm
[09:20] <dennis__> but I haven't found a debian/ubuntu one
[09:20] <dennis__> :o
[09:20] <bob2> dennis__: liblame0 is in ubuntu
[09:21] <daaku> bob2: ah. ok. can i disable the mdadm init script though? (and lvm while i'm at it?)
[09:21] <bob2> daaku: sure
[09:21] <dennis__> bob2, well audacity wants me to locate the libmp3lame.so file so it can encode mp3's
[09:21] <daaku> bob2: nice. under 512mb system, with a ~15-20sec boot. yay!
[09:22] <nathanel> dennis__: if you have lame installed it should be somewhere under /usr/lib
[09:22] <dennis__> k
[09:22] <dennis__> thank you
[09:22] <dennis__> nathanel, any idea where in there?
[09:22] <dennis__> lol nvm
[09:23] <dennis__> nathanel, well..i have lame installed and libmp3lame.so is not found on my system :/
[09:23] <jcohen85> crimsun, hey- this is jasoncohen. I apparently can't remember my nickserv password so i had to create a new nick
[09:23] <dennis__> Err
[09:23] <dennis__> Nvm
[09:23] <daaku> does ubuntu do a split for hostname/domainname in /etc? (i thought it did, but debootstrap only created a hostname file)
[09:23] <dennis__> I forgot to change the look in folder in the search
[09:23] <dennis__> my bad
[09:24] <jcohen85> crimsun, the kernel panic i get is "init 64: syntax error: 0x   [4294677.238000]  Kernel Panic - not syncing.
[09:24] <jcohen85> crimsun, i get that kernel panic for the k7 and 386 kernel
[09:25] <nathanel> dennis__: according to packages.ubuntu.org libmp3lame.so is included in liblame-dev package and stored in /usr/lib
[09:25] <dennis__> okay
[09:27] <dennis__> Anyone here have any experience with audacity
[09:28] <thundrcleeze> dennis__, I have a little
[09:28] <a_lacsa> Hi, is there some kind of virtual cd for linux? (like daemon tools)
[09:28] <smott> a_lacsa: mount -o loop?
[09:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> my sound is not working.  esd starts without complaint. xmms and rhythmbox play is if normal.
[09:30] <thundrcleeze> what's your problem, dennis__?
[09:31] <saik0> a_lacsa, you can mount iso images the way smott said, but thats about it
[09:32] <jcohen85> i upgraded my hoary install to the breezy preview release. Everything is working fine when i use the 2.6.10 kernel but the k7 and 386 2.6.12 kernel gives me this kernel panic- "init 64: syntax error: 0x   [4294677.238000]  Kernel Panic - not syncing. Attemping to kill init!""
[09:32] <daaku> i know they might be stupid questions, but whats the minimal required to install X? i used to install x-window-system-core, but since breezy has it modularized more, i'm not sure?
[09:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> woah...it's workin!
[09:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> yay
[09:35] <cyphase> i installed breezy colony 3 on my test machine..
[09:35] <cyphase> do i have to do a dist-upgrade to get the current preview?
[09:35] <cyphase> or will it come automatically?
[09:36] <rob_> if the HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards section of the wiki says a certain card "Works out of the Box" and it doesn't.... would it be bad netiquette to change that?
[09:36] <rob_> ...or who do I contact?
[09:36] <bob2> daaku: you could minimise it by removing modules you know you don't need
[09:36] <bob2> daaku: but apt can't pick them for you
[09:36] <eobanb> what do you mean by 'automatically'
[09:37] <bob2> rob_: if you're sure it didn't work for you, then changing it is good
[09:37] <bob2> cyphase: you of course need to upgrade manually
[09:37] <rob_> bob2: thx.
[09:37] <cyphase> bob2, doesn't colony 3 use the "breezy" repository?
[09:37] <bob2> cyphase: yes
[09:37] <bob2> cyphase: but apt doesn't magucally run
[09:38] <cyphase> lol, i know
[09:38] <cyphase> but i don't have to dst-upgrade..
[09:38] <bob2> yes, you do
[09:38] <cyphase> oh
[09:38] <cyphase> ok
[09:38] <bob2> or use aptitude or synaptic or whatever
[09:38] <cyphase> yea
[09:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> here's something cool about beos.
[09:45] <BROKEN_LADDER>  It boots very quickly, in under 5 seconds on my machines.
[09:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> wowza
[09:45] <benplaut> however, it's somewhat lacking in most other areas...
[09:48] <eobanb> yeah, you know what also boots in a couple seconds, grub
[09:48] <poningru> question will voice recognition be considered for UBZ?
[09:48] <poningru> err the gander
[09:48] <poningru> or the duck
[09:48] <poningru> whatever
[09:48] <bob2> dapper
[09:48] <poningru> yeah that
[09:48] <bob2> is there any useful Free voice recognition software?
[09:49] <poningru> what do you mean?
[09:49] <poningru> I meant creating one
[09:49] <bob2> er
[09:49] <cyphase> lol
[09:49] <cyphase> very funny
[09:49] <poningru> take one of the many libs and create one to integrate into the os
[09:49] <bob2> writing a voice recognition package is like person-decades of work
[09:49] <cyphase> i hope you don't mean from scratch?
[09:49] <johndarkhorse> graceful gander is breezy+many
[09:49] <poningru> no ofcourse not
[09:49] <johndarkhorse> lol
[09:49] <cyphase> sans the question mark
[09:49] <bob2> are there any free voice recognition libraries yet?
[09:50] <benplaut> bob2: i've heard of somrthing caled flite
[09:50] <poningru> arent there?
[09:50] <benplaut> !find flite
[09:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'flite' (4 shown): eflite ;; flite ;; flite1-dev ;; libflite1.
[09:50] <benplaut> !info flite
[09:50] <ubotu> flite: (A small run-time speech synthesis engine), section universe/sound, is extra. Version: 1.2-release-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 214 kB, Installed size: 420 kB
[09:50] <bob2> that's synthesis
[09:50] <poningru> what does yellowdog use?
[09:50] <benplaut> yah
[09:50] <bob2> ie making your computer talk
[09:50] <benplaut> it works the other way, too
[09:50] <bob2> synthesis is pretty easy
[09:50] <benplaut> works on zaurus, anyway
[09:50] <benplaut> !info eflite
[09:50] <jcohen85> so, anyone else getting kernel panics with 2.6.12 in breezy?
[09:50] <ubotu> eflite: (Festival-Lite based emacspeak speech server), section universe/sound, is extra. Version: 0.3.8-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 17 kB, Installed size: 112 kB
[09:51] <poningru> hold on let me go search around brb
[09:51] <bob2> the description for flite doesn't say it does recognition
[09:51] <benplaut> yah
[09:53] <benplaut> bob2:
[09:53] <benplaut> http://www.cavs.msstate.edu/hse/ies/projects/speech/index.html
[09:53] <benplaut> see if that's anything
[09:55] <dooglus_> jcohen85: I'm not.  I have the latest 2.6.12 and it's fine, other than 10 or so errors at boot time
[09:55] <bob2> benplaut: that looks interesting
[09:55] <benplaut> yah
[09:55] <dooglus_> jcohen85: I have linux-image-2.6.12-8-386              2.6.12-8.13 - you too?
[09:55] <benplaut> but old, unfortunately :(
[09:56] <poningru> bob2: sphinx
[09:56] <poningru> its even in our repos
[09:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> is openbsd better than linux?
[09:56] <crimsun> jcohen85: uname -m?
[09:56] <bob2> right, that is interesting
[09:56] <dooglus_> BROKEN_LADDER: yes, but none of us can afford it.
[09:56] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: of course not, that's a silly question
[09:57] <jcohen85> crimsun, currently i'm running 2.6.10
[09:57] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: it's different, and perhaps better in some regards, and prefered by some people
[09:57] <benplaut> BROKEN_LADDER: not better, or worse... just different
[09:57] <crimsun> jcohen85: right, but is this on amd64?
[09:57] <benplaut> try it :)
[09:57] <jcohen85> crimsun, this is on an amd64 chip but it's a 386 install
[09:57] <jcohen85> 2.6.12-8.13
[09:57] <crimsun> jcohen85: ok, I can confirm that, since my amd64 machine died, too.
[09:58] <poningru> bob2: apperantly its good enough for non grammer desktop control systems
[09:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> i was being funny.
[09:58] <poningru> so why not use that as a basis for a small set of controls?
[09:58] <bob2> poningru: you're welcome to propose it
[09:59] <bob2> but unless you write a rather convincing and complete proposal, or convince someone else to do so, it's unlikely much can happen
[09:59] <jcohen85> crimsun, so the 2.6.12 kernel just doesn't work with a amd64 chip
[09:59] <poningru> hmm ic
[09:59] <dealt> greetings
[09:59] <poningru> should I post it in the FOB page?
[09:59] <jcohen85> crimsun, will this be fixed by final release time?
[09:59] <poningru> or the mailing list
[10:00] <poningru> ?
[10:00] <poningru> cause I just might write it
[10:00] <crimsun> jcohen85: indeed
[10:00] <jcohen85> crimsun, oh- and the boot process is also text only
[10:00] <dealt> how can i check the intergrity of ubuntu 5.04 iso that i downloaded? md5 checksum perhaps?
[10:00] <poningru> err make that BOF page sorry bob2 ?
[10:00] <bob2> poningru: the devel list would probably be a better plan, once you've looked more closely into it
[10:00] <poningru> -?
[10:00] <bob2> poningru: are you going to be at UBZ?
[10:00] <poningru> no
[10:00] <poningru> I wished
[10:00] <poningru> hehe
[10:00] <sithmaster> Okay. So... this is rather new...
[10:00] <eobanb> dealt, you answered your own question
[10:00] <bob2> proposing a BOF is kinda dicey then
[10:00] <poningru> oh
[10:01] <bob2> since the people there won't know or care about it
[10:01] <sithmaster> Apparently ubuntu likes to give me a blank screen after boot on this machine.
[10:01] <poningru> hehe ic
[10:01] <bob2> unless you write a proposal explaining it all
[10:01] <dealt> eobanb: yep, im just looking for where can i get the md5 file :)
[10:01] <bob2> (I say this based on the last conference)
[10:01] <poningru> ic
[10:01] <Alex_BO> HELLO! Is there somebody who can help me to install irda connection?I have an Acer Aspire
[10:01] <bob2> it's really annoying to be scheduled to be in a BOF for some idea you've never heard of
[10:01] <bob2> and the descriptn gives no hint about what youre supposed to do
[10:01] <jcohen85> crimsun, is there any disadvantage to using 2.6.10?
[10:02] <bob2> Alex_BO: did you ask on the user list yet?
[10:02] <VincentMX> hi
[10:02] <bob2> jcohen85: there is on breezy
[10:02] <sithmaster> Could it be a glitch in the graphic drivers?
[10:02] <poningru> hehe I understand, I guess I have to find someone who can carry this
[10:02] <Alex_BO> bob2, no.what's the user list?
[10:03] <sithmaster> Hrmph.
[10:03] <VincentMX> i want USplash to work, somebody in another channel told me that i should have installed USplash first and then the kernel. is there any way to reconfigure the kernel package? dpkg --configure only works when it's not configured yet
[10:03] <sithmaster> I'm guessing no one really wants to help in a chan specifically mentioned on ubuntu's site, then?
[10:04] <Whistler> hello
[10:04] <VincentMX> hi whistler
[10:04] <benplaut> !xserver-xorg
[10:04] <ubotu> benplaut: I haven't a clue
[10:04] <benplaut> bah
[10:04] <poningru> sithmaster: what exactly is the problem?
[10:04] <benplaut> sithmaster: one sec
[10:04] <benplaut> try this:
[10:04] <sithmaster> Upon boot, it gives me nothing.
[10:04] <sithmaster> Just a blank screen.
[10:04] <poningru> oh
[10:04] <sithmaster> A giant void of black-ness.
[10:04] <benplaut> press Ctrl+Alt+F1
[10:04] <poningru> yeah I had the same thing
[10:04] <bob2> VincentMX: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[10:05] <poningru> before I fixed it
[10:05] <sithmaster> How'd you fix it?
[10:05] <VincentMX> bob2 thnx
[10:05] <benplaut> sithmaster: press Ctrl+Alt+F1
[10:05] <benplaut> then log into the terminal
[10:05] <Alex_BO> bob2, so: can you help me?
[10:05] <poningru> sithmaster: follow what benplaut is saying
[10:05] <poningru> it should help
[10:05] <bob2> Alex_BO: lists.ubuntu.com
[10:05] <sithmaster> And after I log into the terminal?
[10:05] <benplaut> sithmaster: then type "sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[10:05] <jcohen85> bob2, what's the disadvantage of using 2.6.10 on breezy?
[10:05] <jcohen85> bob2, that i won't get security updates?
[10:06] <jcohen85> i could just add a hoary-security repo just for the kernel
[10:06] <eobanb> huh?
[10:06] <bob2> jcohen85: udev doesn't like it
[10:06] <benplaut> sithmaster: it'll bring up a text mode 9like the installer) thing to configure your graphics card... should fix everything :)
[10:07] !lilo:*! Reminder: recent new unofficial ("about") channel, ##grsecurity , for discussion of grsecurity, ACL's, etc.
[10:07] <sithmaster> Alright.
[10:07] <sithmaster> Thank you, benplaut.
[10:07] <benplaut> 'welcome :)
[10:07] <Cryptid> Help!!! What codes do i need to play .DAT files i have w32codecs and gtream already installed what else do i neeed
[10:07] <jcohen85> if breezy has a known issue with amd64 cpus, why wasn't it mentioned on the site or in the release notes?
[10:07] <benplaut> it's a very common question :P
[10:07] <bob2> Cryptid: .dat is not a useful file format
[10:07] <benplaut> Cryptid: what program usually opens .DAT files?
[10:07] <sithmaster> Also, is it possible to transfer data between partitions?
[10:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know of a linux dvd copier besides dvdrip?
[10:07] <bob2> jcohen85: it would be mentioned in bugzilla, if true
[10:08] <sithmaster> I'm thinking that that answer is a big, fat, no.
[10:08] <bob2> jcohen85: if you've found new issues, please do report them so they get fixed
[10:08] <sithmaster> But I just need to be positive about that.
[10:08] <benplaut> about what?
[10:08] <Cryptid> non2, i have this VCD and i want to play the movie but i am unable to as the vid is in .dat format
[10:08] <sithmaster> Also, is it possible to transfer data between partitions?
[10:08] <dealt> hello
[10:08] <VincentMX> bob2 it doesnt see no splash screen
[10:08] <Cryptid> bob2, i have this VCD and i want to play the movie but i am unable to as the vid is in .dat format
[10:08] <bob2> VincentMX: that's fine
[10:09] <bob2> Cryptid: and what does "file" say it is?
[10:09] <Inf3ctedFx> what is the apt-get to install Mplayer?
[10:09] <poningru> sithmaster: yes its possible
[10:09] <benplaut> sithmaster: what are they formatted as?
[10:09] <poningru> as long as linux can recognize the formats
[10:09] <sithmaster> fAT32.
[10:09] <Inf3ctedFx> it should be mplayer or gplayer>
[10:09] <VincentMX> bob2 how do i get a splash screen then?
[10:09] <poningru> sithmaster: then yes its possible
[10:09] <sithmaster> How?
[10:09] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there no way to copy dvd's in linux?
[10:09] <bob2> Inf3ctedFx: mplayer-686 is the package name
[10:09] <Inf3ctedFx> thx
[10:09] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: of course there is, don't be stupid
[10:09] <bob2> (and annoying)
[10:09] <poningru> just mount both partitions and transfer away in a windows manager
[10:09] <BROKEN_LADDER> bob2 then i'd love to know how.
[10:10] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: dvdrip
[10:10] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: oh, it's not installable? talk to the backports peopel so they can fix it
[10:10] <sithmaster> Alrighty.
[10:10] <sithmaster> Thank you.
[10:10] <Cryptid> bob2, totem player player gives this error when i try to play it "Could not determine type of stream." i was able to play the same file in windows media player
[10:10] <spiral> hi
[10:10] <bob2> Cryptid: ignore. it.
[10:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> i thought you (or at least a few people) have said that using backports is unsafe
[10:10] <VincentMX> bob2 is there any other way to get a splash screen?
[10:10] <frans-th> hi all
[10:10] <bob2> yes
[10:10] <poningru> hello
[10:10] <bob2> VincentMX: have you rebooted yet?
[10:10] <Inf3ctedFx> nope bob2  it wont download :(
[10:10] <bob2> Inf3ctedFx: then perhaps you didn't tell apt to use multiver
[10:11] <bob2> Inf3ctedFx: /msg ubotu repositories
[10:11] <poningru> BROKEN_LADDER: its not that big a deal
[10:11] <benplaut> BROKEN_LADDER: technically, it has the possibility of not being safe
[10:11] <VincentMX> bob2 ok
[10:11] <poningru> its generaly safe
[10:11] <benplaut> but, it 99% of the time is OK
[10:11] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: also, apt-cache search dvd copy
[10:11] <phrizer> i have apt set to use multiverse, but it still doesnt find mplayer-686 ;/
[10:11] <Inf3ctedFx> multiver?
[10:11] <bob2> Inf3ctedFx: multiverse
[10:11] <bob2> phrizer: /etc/apt/sources.list, #flood
[10:11] <Cryptid> bob2, if i ignore it, it dosent continue to play the file.what do i do now arnt there ne codecs to play such files
[10:11] <bob2> Cryptid: dude
[10:12] <bob2> Cryptid: I'm going to refuse to help you forever if you keep ignoring my suggestions
[10:12] <bob2> 18:09:01           bob2 | Cryptid: and what does "file" say it is?
[10:13] <bob2> Inf3ctedFx: what?
[10:13] <bob2> Inf3ctedFx: read what ubotu told you
[10:13] <poningru> Cryptid: what file format is the file in?
[10:13] <bob2> phrizer: you don't have multiverse there
[10:14] <phrizer> iOh?
[10:14] <Inf3ctedFx> ok i'm reading that bob2  thx
[10:14] <VincentMX> bob2 it doesn't work. i don't see any splash creen
[10:14] <bob2> VincentMX: well, check the bts and file a bug if no one else has
[10:14] <bob2> on the usplash package, I guess
[10:14] <dwerf> would somebody help a greenhorn mount a disk he just put in his system?
[10:14] <Inf3ctedFx> phrizer:
[10:15] <Inf3ctedFx> should I copy that in my sources.list?
[10:15] <Cryptid> the file extension is ".dat" it was originally a .mpeg file i used Nero to make it a VCD file
[10:15] <phrizer> Inf3ctedFx,  no
[10:15] <phrizer> heh
[10:15] <Inf3ctedFx> lol
[10:15] <Inf3ctedFx> so?
[10:15] <Cryptid> poingru, the file extension is ".dat" it was originally a .mpeg file i used Nero to make it a VCD file
[10:15] <omp> hello
[10:15] <bob2> Cryptid: so use the .mpeg
[10:16] <Inf3ctedFx> well, I dont get it.. is kinda confusing to me
[10:16] <bob2> Inf3ctedFx: ?
[10:16] <volvoguy> ugh. i'm not getting very far with this stupid hard drive.
[10:16] <Inf3ctedFx> ubotu:
[10:16] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Inf3ctedFx
[10:17] <Cryptid> bob2, u mean u just want me to rename the file to .mpeg
[10:17] <bob2> ubotu: no, this is where you tell us which bit confused you
[10:17] <ubotu> bob2: what are you talking about?
[10:17] <kuru> guys.. I'm still having trouble with this hp color lj 3550 printer
[10:17] <bob2> Cryptid: is that what I said?
[10:17] <bob2> Cryptid: if you made a vcd from a .mpeg, playt the .mpeg instead
[10:17] <kuru> I upgraded to breezy and install hplip and foomatic-db-hpijs
[10:17] <Inf3ctedFx> ubotu: multiverse
[10:17] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[10:17] <kuru> but everytime Iprint it comes back with "Chosen personality not available"
[10:17] <Inf3ctedFx> !repositories
[10:17] <ubotu> I guess repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:17] <kuru> whatever the hell that means
[10:18] <kuru> and it works perfectly from my debian Etch
[10:18] <poningru> Cryptid: just play the vcd
[10:18] <kuru> so I know something in cups/whatever works
[10:18] <volvoguy> i thought the journaling in ext3 was supposed to help prevent problems with bad blocks.
[10:18] <poningru> Cryptid: open up vlc
[10:18] <bob2> Inf3ctedFx: so, go rezd those links
[10:18] <bob2> volvoguy: no, journalling has nothing to do with that
[10:18] <volvoguy> bob2. hmm..
[10:18] <Inf3ctedFx> ok bob2  now I gotta
[10:18] <Inf3ctedFx> thx
[10:19] <poningru> Cryptid: you still there?
[10:19] <Cryptid> bob2, i dont have the .mpeg ne more y would i have the .mpeg file once i have burnt it into a VCD
[10:19] <poningru> do you still have the vcd?
[10:19] <Cryptid> ponigru, ya i am here
[10:19] <dwerf> would somebody help a greenhorn mount a disk he just put in his system?
[10:19] <bob2> omg u r right lolz
[10:19] <volvoguy> are there any tools besides fsck that i could throw at this? the output of fsck -c was "e2fsck: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/hdc1"
[10:19] <Cryptid> ponigru, yes i have the VCD
[10:19] <bob2> dwerf: /msg ubotu ntfs
[10:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> my dvd drive is not being recognized after my recent kernel upgrade.  is there anything to try before downgrading to the previous kernel?
[10:19] <bob2> volvoguy: that means your disk is physically fucked
[10:19] <poningru> Cryptid: start up vlc
[10:19] <poningru> then file->open disc
[10:20] <poningru> and it should play it
[10:20] <volvoguy> i think someone at WD needs to die this time. that'd be about a dozen in a year.
[10:20] <volvoguy> grrr.
[10:20] <poningru> err select vcd from the choice
[10:20] <poningru> and press ok
[10:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> volvoguy there's a company in san jose that will open up your drive in a clean room and retrieve the data from it for a modest 1000$ per gig or so.
[10:20] <dwerf> bob2, fortunately it is a fat32 partition
[10:20] <Cryptid> ponigru, vlc?? what is that is that a player, :-| i am totally new to linux so i am sorry if i am irritating u.
[10:20] <bob2> dwerf: read the factoid, it points at a script that works for fat32 and ntfs
[10:21] <dwerf> bob2, the disk i must write to is linux formatted, but it doesn't mount
[10:21] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: hows the new linux treatin ya?
[10:21] <bob2> dwerf: oh, right
[10:21] <poningru> Cryptid: thats ok, yes its a video player
[10:21] <bob2> dwerf: copy a line in /etc/fstab and edit it to suit
[10:21] <poningru> you can install it from synaptic
[10:21] <cyphase> wtf..
[10:21] <poningru> go to system->administration-> synaptic
[10:21] <volvoguy> BROKEN_LADDER, unfortunately doing work on free software doesn't allow me to afford such luxuries. :-P
[10:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> lol
[10:21] <cyphase> why is there a porn screensaver on my computer?
[10:21] <dwerf> bob2, what?
[10:21] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse. which new linux?
[10:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> cyphase cause you got lucky?
[10:22] <bob2> cyphase: please don't start
[10:22] <poningru> cyphase: we arent called the porn distro for nothing
[10:22] <bob2> dwerf: which part of that was confusing?
[10:22] <cyphase> bob2, don't start what?
[10:22] <cyphase> i'm serious..
[10:22] <Cryptid> ponigru, i dont have it i guess i will have to download it
[10:22] <cyphase> i sure didn't install it
[10:22] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: were you not talked thru a linux install t'other day?
[10:22] <dwerf> bob2, the whole sentence ;-)
[10:22] <poningru> Cryptid: yes you have to install it from synaptic
[10:22] <bob2> cyphase: no, you enabled a screensaver that shows random images from the web
[10:22] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, nope. not me. been using linux 10+ years.
[10:23] <dwerf> bob2, i need to know how i view a non-mounted disk and how to mount it
[10:23] <poningru> Cryptid: go to system->administration
[10:23] <Cryptid> poningru, wait i will install it and come back to u in few mins
[10:23] <bob2> dwerf: open /etc/fstab. copy one of the existing ext3 lines. paste it on a new line. edit the mountpoint and device columns to point at the correct vaslues.
[10:23] <chaosmind> a scant eleven hours after purchasing my D-Link wireless card, I've got it recognized in "Network settings"!
[10:23] <poningru> Cryptid: do you know how to install it?
[10:23] <chaosmind> Now I just need to get online with it!
[10:23] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse: just now getting into more of the nitty gritty of it.
[10:23] <dwerf> ok
[10:24] <bob2> things are simpler if you buy non-silly hardware, tho
[10:24] <bob2> e.g. my wireless nic worked in the installer
[10:24] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: i wonder how many volvoguys there are
[10:24] <Cryptid> poningru, yes i do
[10:24] <poningru> k
[10:24] <chaosmind> "non-silly hardware" = ??
[10:24] <poningru> just makin sure
[10:24] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, i've never seen another.
[10:24] <Alex_BO> CAN Somebody say me where i can download nsc-ircc module?
[10:24] <bob2> chaosmind: = ones with free linux driver
[10:24] <Cryptid> poningru, it is a 9mb file i have a 128kbps connection so it might take few mins
[10:25] <chaosmind> =)
[10:25] <poningru> k
[10:25] <dwerf> bob2, that makes sense, now how can i check what the line would be for the non-mounted disk?
[10:25] <volvoguy> bob2, so even if fdisk and smartctl show the disk as healthy, it's the partition that's hosed and all my data is probably gone? :(
[10:25] <bob2> dwerf: by using your linux knowledge, or describing your system to us
[10:25] <bob2> volvoguy: I didn't say that
[10:25] <bob2> volvoguy: short read could just mean the partition table is fucked
[10:25] <Cryptid> poningru, y dont the other player play the file i mean like Xine and totem
[10:25] <sithmaster> Hmm. Still no go.
[10:26] <poningru> Cryptid: not sure I am sure they can play it
[10:26] <poningru> err
[10:26] <poningru> Cryptid: not sure, I am sure they can play it.
[10:26] <sithmaster> Whoah. 1 op per 409 users?
[10:26] <sithmaster> O_o
[10:26] <volvoguy> bob2, is there any way to get the data off, even if it's a one time shot?
[10:26] <johndarkhorse> sithmaster: we are civil here
[10:26] <sithmaster> Hah.
[10:26] <poningru> Cryptid: totem should play it
[10:27] <sithmaster> I should hope so...
[10:27] <poningru> in totem movie-> open disc
[10:27] <sithmaster> Anyway, the clrt-alt-F1 bit didn't quite work....
[10:27] <poningru> in totem, movie-> open disc
[10:27] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse.... ooooh. that was me! :) i was more fighting with resizing an hfs+ partition. it's working great so far (sans wifi).
[10:27] <poningru> sithmaster: I will be with you soon hold on
[10:27] <sithmaster> Yessir.
[10:28] <poningru> Cryptid: also what are you using with totem the default engine or totem-xine?
[10:28] <dwerf> bob2, i'm afraid my linux knowledge is more about gimp and blender - my system now contains 3 disks, 1 windows with 2 partitions, 1 with 1 partition and one USB-disk with 2 partitions
[10:28] <Cryptid> poningru, the default engine
[10:28] <poningru> Cryptid: go ahead and install the totem-xine package
[10:29] <rigel> okay so i need to back up a drive to dvd
[10:29] <poningru> it is much better imho
[10:29] <rigel> but ubu isnt seeing all the partitions, for one
[10:29] <rigel> and for two, i dont know how to use dd properly
[10:29] <poningru> but I prefer vlc to totem
[10:29] <Cryptid> poningru, i have xine player is totem-xine diffrent from it
[10:29] <poningru> Cryptid: totem-xine is just making totem use the xine display engine iirc
[10:29] <poningru> not sure though
[10:30] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, good to see ya. i'm in os x right now as i rarely have an ethernet cable handy. still haven't final-checked wifi dongle compatibilty and bought something yet.
[10:30] <dwerf> bob2, the partition to recover is on a mounted USB-disk, it's fat32 - the disk to write to is Linux-formatted
[10:30] <poningru> xine will be unaffected
[10:30] <Cryptid> poningru, k will this xine-totem interfer with my w32codecs and gstream codecs
[10:30] <Alex_BO> is there anybody? I need your help....
[10:30] <kakalto> how can I make ubuntu use my serial mouse?
[10:30] <rigel> can someone tell me how to back up this windows drive?
[10:31] <rigel> please?
[10:31] <pef> hello
[10:31] <poningru> Cryptid: no totem-xine shouldnt interfere with that stuff
[10:31] <kakalto> I tried changing the protocol in xorg.conf to "Auto", it didn't work, neither did "Microsoft"
[10:31] <volvoguy> hey. i'll brb. xchat in osx really sucks.
[10:31] <Alex_BO> I need nsc-ircc module, but i don't know where i can find it
[10:31] <rigel> it's dying, so i hooked it up to my ubu box but im a noob and dont know how to use dd
[10:31] <sithmaster> Hmm. X-Chat...
[10:31] <sithmaster> Yummy client.
[10:31] <kakalto> anyone know much about using serial mice under ubuntu?
[10:31] <Cryptid> poningru, k thanx for all the help if i still have ne problems i will come bck to u
[10:31] <poningru> Cryptid: and xine should be able to play vcd as well
[10:31] <jcohen85> i dont' see any kernel panic like mine in bugzilla
[10:32] <sithmaster> It's 2005 and you're using a serial mouse?
[10:32] <sithmaster> O_o
[10:32] <jcohen85> crimsun, did you report the kernel panic?
[10:32] <sithmaster> That's so awesome.
[10:32] <Cryptid> poningru, xine says that the file format way not recognised
[10:32] <johndarkhorse> sithmaster: be civil please
[10:33] <sithmaster> How is commenting on the awesomeness of using old technology uncivilized?
[10:33] <poningru> Cryptid: it may be that whoever encoded the video may not have done it correctly
[10:33] <crimsun> jcohen85: I can't; the machine is across the continent from me with no serial connection
[10:33] <sithmaster> Seriously, I'm on a 56k line right now. And I have a P2 machine running back in my little sister's room.
[10:33] <crimsun> jcohen85: please feel free to, however
[10:33] <poningru> Cryptid: see if vlc plays it if not I dont think you can play it at all
[10:34] <Inf3ctedFx> bob2: the command is:  apt-get update && upgrade ?
[10:34] <poningru> sithmaster: ok so what vid card are you using?
[10:34] <poningru> and what computer do you have?
[10:34] <sithmaster> On this machine, an MX 420.
[10:34] <sithmaster> 800Mhz celeron.
[10:34] <sithmaster> 128MB RAM.
[10:34] <sithmaster> 30GB HDD.
[10:34] <sithmaster> With 20GB going to windars, and 10 going to ubuntu.
[10:35] <sithmaster> Heh. Wow. I didn't think it was possible to kill a chat with over 400 users...
[10:35] <johndarkhorse> sithmaster: please use proper punctuation, not the <enter> key, please
[10:35] <sithmaster> Heh.
[10:35] <sithmaster> Um.
[10:35] <sithmaster> That's not proper enough for you?
[10:36] <sithmaster> Considering you didn't even properly punctuate that sentence, I fail to see how I'm at fault here.
[10:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there any way to see whether my dvd drive is even being recognized ?
[10:37] <shekhar> hello how can i get skype working?
[10:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'd suggest not using it period.
[10:37] <Kuolio> eh, download from skype's homepage, install and enjoy?
[10:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> why not use something that operates on open standards, and just get an sip account?
[10:38] <Kuolio> that's how i did it :D
[10:38] <Alex_BO> PLEASE!help me, please.... i'm looking for nsc-ircc, but i can't find it in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5/net/irda. why?
[10:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> er.. a sip account.  use gizmo or linphone if you like.
[10:38] <Kuolio> BROKEN_LADDER: because all my friends use skype?
[10:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> ack
[10:38] <Kuolio> because my family and relatives use skype?
[10:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> then tell them why it's a bad idea to use it.  convert them.
[10:38] <omp> for some reason, no matter how many times i try ubuntu, theres something about it i don't like, but i don't what...
[10:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> skype will die soon enough.
[10:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> you don't know what?
[10:38] <Quinthius> anyone else having trouble with w32codecs and sun java in breezy?
[10:38] <Kuolio> hehe, good luck converting my mom to do something :D
[10:39] <volvoguy> i'm still trying to hold back the tears. if someone can point me to some info about repairing a partition table without destroying data, i'd be eternally grateful. this is the big drive i could only pray wouldn't fail because i couldn't afford to back it all up. :(
[10:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> Kuolio gizmoproject.com
[10:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> Kuolio if you use sip, you can buy a real phone that sits on your desk and makes free calls over the net.  all your mom would have to do is dial numbers.
[10:39] <liable> volvoguy: look at gpart
[10:39] <sithmaster> You couldn't use tapes?
[10:39] <Alex_BO> is there anybody who can help me?
[10:39] <sithmaster> Tape drives can't be terribly expensive, volvo.
[10:39] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: what filesystem is on the drive?
[10:40] <volvoguy> liable, is that like gparted?
[10:40] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, ext3
[10:40] <liable> volvoguy: no, apt-get show gpart
[10:40] <rigel> tape drives ARE terribly expensive
[10:40] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: fsck.ext3 wont do it?
[10:40] <stoeptegel> what's the advantage of having shorewall conf tool above plain iptables?
[10:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone know how i can check whether my dvd drive is showing up to my system at all?
[10:40] <liable> volvoguy: err apt-cache..
[10:41] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, no. just a sec and i'll show you the error again.
[10:41] <jcohen85> crimsun, what would the priority be...critical?
[10:41] <jcohen85> or major
[10:41] <rigel> is there some way i can back up a fat32 partition to dvd easily?
[10:41] <crimsun> major; set the severity
[10:41] <chaosmind> hola (wireless NIC problem here) "dmesg | grep -i ath" produced error messages regarding "IPv6"....
[10:41] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, fsck.ext3: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/hdc1
[10:41] <chaosmind> seems I've only got IPv6 hosts set up...?
[10:41] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, this is on a pc.
[10:42] <chaosmind> although that's how my wired (functioning) connection looks as well.
[10:42] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: if you can hold that thought, i know bob2 knows a thing or two about ext3 tools
[10:43] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: i'm sure some other daywalkers know, too
[10:43] <dwerf> it is so sad to see that in this channel often no help is given to newcomers to linux that do not study ict
[10:43] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, i'm holding, as i'm reading up on liable's suggestion of gpart.
[10:43] <Quinthius> was w32codecs ans sun java removed or something?
[10:43] <jcohen85> crimsun, why can't i set the milestone to 5.10? it says i don't have privileges to do so
[10:43] <crimsun> jcohen85: don't set that
[10:43] <dwerf> it is often very hard to just 'read the manual' if one has no reference to what ons is looking for
[10:43] <crimsun> jcohen85: only the release managers should mess with that
[10:44] <jcohen85> crimsun, https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15707
[10:44] <jcohen85> crimsun, what other info should i add?
[10:44] <dwerf> bob2 > it is often very hard to just 'read the manual' if one has no reference to what ons is looking for
[10:44] <chaosmind> has anyone here connected a wireless Ubuntu system thru an Airport Express connection?
[10:44] <zxsykco> Nope.
[10:44] <Micksa> dammit
[10:44] <crimsun> the airport express doesn't work with Linux afaik
[10:44] <Micksa> what's with the ultra-ultra-slow scrolling in breezy?
[10:44] <chaosmind> D'oh!
[10:45] <volvoguy> might sleuthkit help in this situation too?
[10:45] <chaosmind> it should just be "kosher" 802.11g networking...
[10:45] <chaosmind> ...not even w/ WEP enabled.
[10:46] <Micksa> also, what's ubuntu's version of ~/.xsession?
[10:46] <Micksa> it has one right?
[10:46] <a_lacsa> is cvs built in ubuntu or do i have to acquire it first?
[10:46] <crimsun> a_lacsa: you have to install it.
[10:47] <a_lacsa> is it a packeage i can install using synaptic?
[10:48] <kataklsym> during installation, since there is only once install cd, does it give you options to install packages from a repository? or do you have to do that after the standard install is finished?
[10:50] <topyli> a_lacsa: just search for "cvs" in synaptic and it'll be there
[10:51] <Quinthius> anyone know why w32codecs and sun-j2re1.5 arent showing up anymore? after a refresh, it listed them as local/obsolete and conflicting with some packages, so i uninstalled them and looked for the other packages, which are nowhere to be found... and now w32codecs/sun-j2re1.5 cant be found either
[10:51] <a_lacsa> thanks
[10:51] <volvoguy> liable, any tips for running gpart?
[10:51] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: carefully?
[10:52] <topyli> kataklsym: you'll have to customize your installation afterwards, IIRC the ubuntu installer doesn't give you this option
[10:52] <volvoguy> liable, i assume i want it to save the results to a file first and not back to the disk in case it's wrong?
[10:52] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, :-P
[10:52] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: did you read the docs at the gpart homepage?
[10:53] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, i'm working on the manpage at the moment.
[10:53] <kataklsym> topyli: what kind of package selection system does the install give you? or does it just install everything?
[10:53] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, thx.
[10:53] <johndarkhorse> manpages are so dry
[10:53] <volvoguy> agreed.
[10:54] <topyli> kataklsym: it simply installs the default package selection, like it or not. or, you can install using the "server" option, which gives you a more debian-like minimal install
[10:55] <kataklsym> thats cool
[10:55] <kataklsym> where can i see the default packages that are installed ?
[10:55] <topyli> kataklsym: ubuntu
[10:55] <topyli> argh
[10:55] <topyli> kataklsym: check the dependencies of the "ubuntu-desktop" package
[10:56] <Whistler> can anybody help me a litlle with icewm?
[10:56] <topyli> kataklsym: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/base/ubuntu-desktop
[10:56] <kataklsym> i mean before i install, on the web, where is a site that shows the package list for the 5.10 preview cd?
[10:57] <volvoguy> for those familiar with gpart - it looks like if i run it without any options, it'll print it's output to the screen for me to check out. yes?
[10:57] <kataklsym> is 5.10 about the same as 5.04, as far as the packages that are included?
[10:58] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: v/o options it should just print
[10:58] <daaku> anyone know where i can get a US keymap and xkb config for a powerbook? i've got a custom kernel with the fn patch.
[10:58] <topyli> kataklsym: there's not much difference. you can just change "hoary" to "breezy" in that URL i gave you
[10:58] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: you have to TELL it to Write
[10:58] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, ok. cross your fingers. :)
[10:59] <kataklsym> thanks topyli
[10:59] <topyli> kataklsym: there are new things on the desktop, like evince and cairo stuff. but the differences are not that big because the releases happen so often
[11:00] <volvoguy> uh oh. two read errors and one short read error so far.....
[11:00] <jcohen85> crimsun, should i add anything else to bug 15707
[11:00] <entr0py> hi
[11:00] <crimsun> jcohen85: sec
[11:00] <dwerf> where can i find basic information on mounting disks?
[11:00] <zxsykco> man mount
[11:00] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, this is a 250G drive, so it could take a while.
[11:01] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: i have 2 of those, and one got munged with all data loss t'other week
[11:01] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: i'll impart that lesson later, if you're interested
[11:01] <dwerf> where can i find basic information on mounting disks?
[11:01] <johndarkhorse> sometime after monday afternoon
[11:02] <zxsykco> dwerf: man mount
[11:03] <topyli> if someone is a keen openoffice.org tester, i could give them some slides to prepare. i would get the slides, you could report bugs to openoffice.org =)
[11:03] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, i had my hands on another 250G drive on sale last week, but on my limited income it would have meant about 3 months of spending money. had i bought it and done a raid1, i wouldn't be in this boat though. doh!
[11:03] <kakalto> ubuntu didn't autodetect my network. how can i try to install it manually?
[11:03] <kataklsym> topyli: i have used RH for about 10 years now, and i'm kinda tired of how RH is not implementing newer versions with new options in the packages and the update systems, i am looking for a distro to replace RH, i just want the stability that I am use to.   I have tried other distros out, but seems like they have shortcomings when it comes to the options u have with configuration, and the compatibility with the base software and other soft
[11:03] <kataklsym> ware you later wish to install..
[11:04] <johndarkhorse> kataklsym: 6 month release cycles here
[11:04] <kakalto> anyone?
[11:04] <dwerf> zxsykco > i really need a bit of basic linux help, just to mount a disk to my system, than I'll be out of this channel
[11:05] <volvoguy> kakalto, if you go to "system > administration > networks" there's a gui that should handle most stuff.
[11:05] <volvoguy> kakalto, (in the top panel that is)
[11:05] <jcohen85> crimsun, did you get a chance to look at it?
[11:06] <dealt> hi! quick question: what's the default root password?
[11:07] <topyli> kataklsym: stable ubuntu releases are very stable. it's like running debian unstable without the hassle :)
[11:07] <malv> i notice wmvs with totem + gstreamer are rather choppy and unwatchable. Is there a way to fix this?
[11:07] <topyli> kataklsym: new, but tested and supported packages
[11:07] <malv> *without having to use totem-xine
[11:08] <volvoguy> dealt, there's no root in ubuntu. we use sudo.
[11:08] <volvoguy> !sudo
[11:08] <ubotu> methinks sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:08] <dealt> volvoguy: oh
[11:08] <topyli> kataklsym: note that breezy is not "stable" quite yet
[11:08] <dealt> ubotu: that's a suprise. thanks! :)
[11:08] <ubotu> dealt: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:09] <volvoguy> dealt, it works much like apple os x if you're familiar with that.
[11:09] <kakalto> thanks volvoguy
[11:09] <volvoguy> kakalto, yw.
[11:10] <kataklsym> topyli: whats not stable in breezy??
[11:10] <kakalto> but, volvoguy, that's to do with modem
[11:10] <benplaut> g'night :)
[11:10] <kataklsym> i know its not officially completed testing stages to become "stable" but what all do u know of that is broken?
[11:11] <topyli> kataklsym: it's stable in real life, i mean "might still change" by "unstable"
[11:11] <kataklsym> thats what i was hoping to hear :)
[11:11] <topyli> kataklsym: which means they could still break things :)
[11:12] <volvoguy> kakalto, it works with network stuff too. if you don't see an ethernet option in there, then it's probably a deeper issue than i can solve. ubuntu doesn't seem to be recognizing your hardware.
[11:12] <kataklsym> yea auto updating isnt always good when ur using an unstable distro heh
[11:12] <dealt> bye everybody!
[11:12] <topyli> that's right :)
[11:12] <kataklsym> a lot of people think that auto updates are always good
[11:12] <chaosmind> WOO-HOO!!!  Wireless Ubuntu at last!!!
[11:13] <chaosmind> Thanks to bob2 for all the help!
[11:13] <chaosmind> just as I was about to solve my problems with a power-drill and a Long-Ass Ethernet Cable (TM)!
[11:13] <kataklsym> like me where i use RH, i dont have to worry too much about auto updates because they have plenty more time to be tested thoroughly, since RH is only on a 12 month release schedule
[11:13] <topyli> kataklsym: every once in a while, somebody asks "how do i set up a cron job to automatically dist-upgrade every night" :)
[11:13] <kakalto> volvoguy, when I do 'lspci' in the terminal, I don't see any network hardware there
[11:13] <kataklsym> also means im one of the last to be using the latest and greatest, if im depending on updating to do it for me
[11:13] <chaosmind> just realized that Ubuntu and Apple don't see eye to eye on what WEP means...!
[11:13] <kataklsym> haha
[11:14] <kakalto> it's a d-link network card, but there's no d-link on that list
[11:14] <kataklsym> topyli: u got to be kidding
[11:14] <Whistler> how do i install xfce?
[11:15] <kakalto> Whistler, isn't there a guide to that on the forums?
[11:15] <topyli> kataklsym: if you want to live on the bleeding edge, you use ubuntu. i've been thinking about foresight linux too, because they are the other distro which uses the latest and greatest gnome stuff
[11:15] <Gundjah> Whistler, sudo apt-get install xfce
[11:15] <Whistler> kakalto thx
[11:15] <kakalto> Whistler, np
[11:15] <volvoguy> kakalto, i'm afraid i'm not very familiar with making hardware work that doesn't "just work". can someone else give kakalto a hand?
[11:15] <Whistler> Gundjah nope
[11:15] <kataklsym> im still on gnome 2.6 with RH
[11:15] <Gundjah> K. Seems to work for me.
[11:15] <kakalto> last time I played with xfce, it wasn't in the repos
[11:15] <kataklsym> stuff like that is what makes me want to dist-change lol
[11:16] <Whistler> Gundjah maybe it because of breezy
[11:16] <Whistler> ?
[11:16] <volvoguy> you guys might want xfce4
[11:16] <volvoguy> (that 4 makes a big difference!)
[11:16] <Gundjah> Whis - whaddyamean?
[11:16] <kataklsym> i havent heard of foresight linux
[11:16] <Gundjah> tnx ... volvo
[11:16] <kataklsym> the one that i was thinking would be kick ass was gentoo
[11:16] <topyli> kataklsym: yeah, redhat is conservative. you could of course use fedora, but i'm always hearing about problems that fedora users have. it's not very stable AFAIK
[11:17] <kataklsym> I have tried fedora
[11:17] <kakalto> kataklsym, if you can be bothered taking atleost a few days to install gentoo :)
[11:17] <kataklsym> fedora isnt really up to par with technology either
[11:17] <Whistler> volvoguy thx sudo apt-get install xfce4 works :)
[11:17] <volvoguy> topyli, i had a lot of problems with foresight's package management system.
[11:17] <kataklsym> kakalto: i started my gentoo install
[11:17] <kataklsym> and when it started doing the portage process in stage 3, i got some kind of error and it stopped
[11:17] <walde> kakalto, your card isnt listed in lspci
[11:17] <kataklsym> and then i tried again and it still didnt work
[11:18] <topyli> volvoguy: yeah, it's a young distro that might have problems. i haven't dared to try it yet, i don't have enough test machines
[11:18] <kataklsym> someone said it was a problem with the newest portage tree on there site
[11:18] <Gundjah> My inittab says:
[11:18] <Gundjah> # The default runlevel.
[11:18] <Gundjah> id:3:initdefault:
[11:18] <volvoguy> Whistler, great! if you fire up synaptic and search, you can also grab some extras for xfce that don't get pulled in with the xfce4 package.
[11:18] <kataklsym> so i said hmm well maybe i messed up
[11:18] <kakalto> walde, no, it's not
[11:18] <Gundjah> Can anyone figure out why I
[11:18] <Gundjah> am booting to graph mode???
[11:18] <Whistler> volvoguy i see :)
[11:18] <kakalto> kataklsym, my first linux was gentoo. what a crash course
[11:19] <atila_sendil> Hi all; anyone using a VIA mini-itx ? I have problems with movie playback being too slow
[11:19] <Gundjah> kakalto - I can imagine :-)
[11:19] <Sarr-chan> hey, people. Could anyone help me get znes or another snes emulor on my ubuntu amd64?
[11:19] <kataklsym> then i tried the GUI Installer for Gentoo, and thought maybe its thinking im a newbie and trying to give me a hard time.lol.  well i got through all the package installs, and then it said Unknown error, and i just said hell with gentoo...
[11:19] <topyli> Gundjah: debian-like distros always boot to runlevel 2. the thing you want to do is not to start gdm
[11:19] <kakalto> Gundjah, let's just say, I was disappointed when my soundcard didn't work >_>
[11:19] <Gundjah> kakalto - :)
[11:19] <volvoguy> topyli, i tried it three times, just in case i was doing something wrong using their package manager (i wasn't). it's really pretty until you try and start upgrading it. it made me fall in love with tomboy. (the software, not an actual boy. hehe.).
[11:20] <Sarr-chan> is it even possible to get a snes emulator on ubuntu?
[11:20] <kataklsym> gentoo has the right idea, but i dont think they are open minded enough to say hey this is 2005, we need to do things a lil different and make this an interactable setup..
[11:20] <Gundjah> topyli - AFAIK it should boot to runlevel defined in inittab. What am I missing here?
[11:20] <topyli> volvoguy: like jdub says, "the ultimate sticky wiki" :)
[11:20] <volvoguy> topyli, yep!
[11:20] <Gundjah> I want to boot to text thingy and start my X when I want to, not when Ubuntu wants to
[11:21] <topyli> Gundjah: i guess you are booting to runlevel 3, but it's identical to 2
[11:21] <walde> kakalto, do you have another os working with this card- i got the same problem some  years ago with a dlink-card doesnt wake up only after rebooting another os
[11:21] <kakalto> it works under win be
[11:21] <kataklsym> they can implement every good feature about gentoo into an interactive setup, without losing the the good things about it. and the geeks who want the 100% CLI install and take a few days setting it up, well they could have that option if they wanted to
[11:21] <kakalto> *me
[11:21] <topyli> Gundjah: boot to runlevel 2 but disable gdm
[11:21] <Sarr-chan> please guys, am i able to emulate snes roms on ubuntu... >.<
[11:21] <kakalto> walde, it's an old computer, the card works w/ winme
[11:22] <kakalto> walde, but the lights are on on the card...
[11:22] <walde> hmmm, you are sure the card is correctly build in... pci-card have mysterious behaviour if not
[11:22] <dwerf> is there a linux equivalent to total commander?
[11:22] <atila_sendil> Sarr-chan, I got zsnes Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM) in synaptic
[11:22] <Gundjah> topyli - runlevel 2 identical to 3????
[11:22] <Gundjah>     *  0 - Halt the system
[11:22] <Gundjah>     * 1 - Single-user mode
[11:22] <Gundjah>     * 2 - Multi-user mode (without NFS)
[11:22] <Gundjah>     * 3 - Multi-user mode
[11:22] <Gundjah>     * 5 - Multi-user mode, graphical login
[11:22] <Gundjah>     * 6 - Reboot the system
[11:23] <Gundjah> Sorry for short flood
[11:23] <Sarr-chan> oh! atila, ty. i spelled it with ZNES. and not Zsnes
[11:23] <Sarr-chan> thanks thanks thanks ^^
[11:23] <atila_sendil> Sarr-chan, no problem :-)=
[11:23] <johndarkhorse> Gundjah: use a pastebin next time, please
[11:23] <atila_sendil> so anybody ever tried to install ubuntu on a Via epia mini-itx ? I got it working but video playback is too slow . . .
[11:24] <Sarr-chan> goddam thing, atila_sendil, you are not on amd64 right?
[11:24] <Gundjah> johndarkhorse - yap, sorry, but don't have any browsers but links at the moment :-)
[11:24] <atila_sendil> Sarr-chan, nope ... use X86 ... doesn't the package work for amd64 ?
[11:24] <darksatanic> atila_sendil: I don't have Ubuntu on mine -- I have Debian.
[11:25] <atila_sendil> Sarr-chan, you may search reps for nes only :-)
[11:25] <Sarr-chan> atila_sendil: i can find it. and that means its not for amd64
[11:25] <Sarr-chan> okay ^^'
[11:25] <kakalto> walde, "correctly build in"?
[11:25] <crimsun> Debian-based distros don't play runlevel games, Gundjah
[11:25] <crimsun> 2-5 are identical
[11:25] <topyli> Gundjah: that's not a debian inittab
[11:25] <topyli> Gundjah: in debian, runlevels 2-5 are identical until you customize them
[11:25] <kakalto> walde, if it works perfectly under win, it must be just a driver issue, right?
[11:25] <darksatanic> atila_sendil: You need to get quite a lot of bits working together to use the MPEG2 slice decoder on the CLE266 chipset.
[11:25] <atila_sendil> darksatanic, do you have good video performance ? and I everything works except hardware acceleration ...
[11:26] <Gundjah> topyli - nope, I got it from HOWTO.
[11:26] <atila_sendil> darksatanic, oops... anywhere to start reading ?
[11:26] <darksatanic> I used to until quite recently, and it broke on an upgrade. I haven't sorted it out yet.
[11:26] <Gundjah> crimson - could u pls elaborate?
[11:26] <darksatanic> atila_sendil: http://myth.ivor.org/unichrome/ and http://unichrome.sourceforge.net/
[11:26] <[LethAL] > I have a major problem. I can't login graphically. GDM says there isn't enough space in the authorization file and KDM doesn't mention anything. Anyone have any ideas?
[11:27] <darksatanic> atila_sendil: Some of the stuff is already rolled into the relevant packages; some isn't.
[11:27] <darksatanic> So recent kernels are OK, for example. I'm not sure about X.org or xine/totem.
[11:27] <atila_sendil> darksatanic, ty ; I had seen the unchrome sites but did not understand. I was beginning to search for another distro but don't want to ...
[11:28] <atila_sendil> darksatanic, better start reading :-) ty again ...
[11:28] <darksatanic> I don't think any other distribution has good integration of Unichrome, either.
[11:28] <topyli> Gundjah: yeah, your HOWTO is talking about redhad-like distros
[11:28] <topyli> redhat even
[11:29] <darksatanic> There are some packages for Debian, but I'm not sure how well they're updated/supported.
[11:29] <walde> kakalto why does it work perfectly unter win? i thouht there is no win on this computer. i asked if you are sure, that the card is physically correctly plugged in into the pci-slot, just to be sure. hmmm yes it is a driver-hardware problem. cards should always be listable to lspci.  need to reboot cause a probelm with vmware - i have no shiftkey anymore
[11:29] <atila_sendil> darksatanic, I do not need much updates; when it works I will put it back under the tv as the TV-box :-)
[11:29] <volvoguy> anyone here use an epson c86 printer by chance?
[11:30] <atila_sendil> darksatanic, I want to get rid of MS Windows through the house :-)
[11:31] <Alex_BO> HELLO! I'm looking for modules.conf but i can't find it in ubuntu.where is it?
[11:32] <Gundjah> topyli - maybe.
[11:32] <[LethAL] > Alex_BO: You might just be looking for /etc/modules
[11:33] <Alex_BO> [LethAL] , but there are modules to load at boot. I need to configure some modules
[11:34] <Gundjah> topyli - got firefox installed, now I'm trying to figure out how to disable GDM, but no luck. How to?
[11:34] <[LethAL] > Alex_BO: I don't know, I assumed there was one in etc, obviously not
[11:35] <chaosmind> can more than one keyboard shortcut be assigned to the same action?
[11:35] <topyli> Gundjah: debian has update-rc.d but you have to read the man page. it's easier to install sysv-rc-conf :)
[11:35] <[LethAL] > Gundjah: perhaps apt-get remove gdm or killall gdm <-Temp
[11:35] <kakalto> walde, I'm running dual-boot on the computer with the non
[11:35] <kakalto> non-working net card
[11:35] <kakalto> winME/ubuntu
[11:35] <kakalto> ubuntulog, I just installed
[11:35] <kakalto> GAH
[11:36] <kakalto> STUPID XCHAT
[11:36] <[LethAL] > chaosmind: It shouldn't be that hard to go find out for yourself ;)
[11:36] <kakalto> sorry ubuntulog
[11:36] <pkern> How are the logical volumes aligned in a physical volumes? In any case contiguous? Can they be moved within a physical volume if the free space is sufficient?
[11:36] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: were you put here to test us or vex us?
[11:36] <Gundjah> topyli - tnx :-)
[11:36] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, what'd i do now?
[11:37] <chaosmind> [LethAL] : since google turns up a big zero, i'll take that as a no!  =P
[11:37] <darksatanic> pkern: Not necessarily contiguous, but you can specify that a volume is contiguous when it's created.
[11:37] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: printer cartridge whatever
[11:37] <kakalto> walde, I'm running dual-boot on the computer with the non-working ethernet card, winMe/ubuntu (which I u
[11:37] <kakalto> darn it
[11:37] <darksatanic> pkern: They can be moved from one PV to another within a VG using "pvmove", but I don't think there's tools to move them within a PV.
[11:38] <[LethAL] > chaosmind: I didn't mean google, I meant try it for yourself
[11:38] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - apt-get remove would uninstall, and that's not quite what I want to do yet. Just boot to text mode, and start X manually with some other WM. I'm n00b 'nuff to still need the tools available in the default WM :-)
[11:38] <noobler> how do i execute netbeans -_-
[11:39] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, oh... hoary autodetected the printer and used the c80 gimp-print drive and breezy didn't detect it, so i wanted to see if anyone had success with the later generation drivers. i did a test print with c84 and it indeed works. not sure if it's any better than the other though.
[11:39] <[LethAL] > Gundjah: Oh... I dunno then ;)
[11:39] <pkern> darksatanic: This means the extents are allocated like they're available to the LV so it could become scattered all over two PVs?
[11:39] <chaosmind> [LethAL] : yeah, once you assign Super R to the menu, you can no longer have Super L do the same thing (like in Winderz)
[11:39] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, yup. :-)
[11:39] <darksatanic> pkern: I believe that's the case, yes. I don't know if there's a "defrag" tool for it, though.
[11:39] <Gundjah> Another stupidity which I simply cannot seem to be able to fix is that Ubuntu doesn't let me use resolution >1024*768 (Gnome, I haven't tested the others yet). What can I do to that?
[11:40] <chaosmind> [LethAL] : i'm trying tomake the system work so i can spring it on Winderz users at my school as a replacement!
[11:40] <[LethAL] > chaosmind: Hehe
[11:40] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - killall might work :-) I'll have to try - dirty way but if it works...
[11:40] <pkern> darksatanic: Thanks.
[11:40] <johndarkhorse> !tell Gundjah about resolution
[11:40] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, at least i don't come in asking for help with my toshiba laptop every day anymore. :-)
[11:40] <darksatanic> pkern: https://www.redhat.com/archives/linux-lvm/2002-November/msg00026.html
[11:41] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: what is that?
[11:41] <[LethAL] > Gundjah: Ofcourse... you could just switch vterminals (Ctrl-Alt-F1 to 7)
[11:41] <k31th> guys, i need to buy a wifi USB that works in linux
[11:41] <noobler> i have netbeans-4_1-linux.bin on my desktop (just downloaded from sun site) and i've chmod +x it, but i dbl click it and it only shows a dialog saying i need to rename a correct extension for "executable" or select app to open with?
[11:41] <johndarkhorse> k31th: netgear ma111
[11:41] <lsuactiafner> pkern : continuous i think
[11:41] <k31th> 54mbp one if possible
[11:41] <lsuactiafner> pkern : but linux doesnt become fragmented.
[11:42] <stelki> Hello, am I the only one having trouble with AmaroK? It seems to crash on me very often. I'm using the latest version from the package manager.
[11:42] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, one of the machines that Canonical gave away for testing. seems i'm the only one having problems still. we've narrowed it down to disk modules being loaded in the wrong order.
[11:42] <pkern> lsuactiafner: That depends on the file system. And ext2/3 have fragmentation, too.
[11:42] <pkern> darksatanic: Thank you, that helps.
[11:42] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - yap. Then I am on text mode - but it's still not the same. Not booting to Gnome by default is what I want to do.
[11:42] <lsuactiafner> pkern : like 4%
[11:43] <stelki> I'm using sqllite btw
[11:43] <k31th> johndarkhorse: yeah??
[11:43] <_rb_> heyas.
[11:43] <pkern> lsuactiafner: Yep.
[11:43] <marc`> Kernal Panic - not synching: attempted to kill init!
[11:43] <lsuactiafner> after several years it will still be @ 4%
[11:43] <[LethAL] > Gundjah: I dunno if you can disable it..
[11:43] <_rb_> hey i was following the ubuntu guide, and i cant seem to get php to work after installing it. where is it declared, like where is the inifile saying how to handle .php files
[11:43] <k31th> deff works does it? as im converting this windows user to the worl of linux
[11:43] <darksatanic> lsuactiafner: All modern filesystems suffer from fragmentation. It's just that most manage to keep it to a minimum unless the filesystem becomes _very_ full.
[11:43] <stelki> _rb_, in apache?
[11:43] <_rb_> yeah
[11:44] <johndarkhorse> k31th: yes, it uses the prism chip i believe and works with minimal software tweaking
[11:44] <stelki> I'm trying to figure too hehe
[11:44] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - ... what the funk of a Linux box is it supposed to be, if you canNOT choose your WM???
[11:44] <pkern> Hm. But then the choice of filesystem remains... ext2/3 is the only filesystem which could be shrinked?
[11:44] <k31th> johndarkhorse: kool
[11:44] <_rb_> it was workin fine. then i updated to php5 to try and import a wiki dump.
[11:44] <lsuactiafner> darksatanic : am on 2 80G that fill up to the last 15mb every other day before i delete like 15G
[11:44] <[LethAL] > Gundjah: You can choose it, assuming you have a nother, I just haven't tried disabling it
[11:44] <_rb_> that farkd out too, so i've gone back to 4. it just wont work
[11:44] <eobanb> disabling what?
[11:44] <lsuactiafner> mp3s small files .vob everything
[11:44] <lsuactiafner> but yes.
[11:45] <kuru> okay guys.. I just upgraded some things from hoary to breezy
[11:45] <kuru> and X died
[11:45] <johndarkhorse> k31th: try finding a wifi usb stick that works on ppc linux (cant run ndiswrapper on ppc)
[11:45] <kuru> seems that it's a common problem, but none of the fixes on the forums seem to do it for me
[11:45] <eobanb> kuru, what's the output
[11:45] <keyes> Hello !
[11:45] <kuru> could not open default font 'fixed';
[11:45] <lsuactiafner> kuru : dist-upgrade, not some things...
[11:45] <eobanb> there are a billion reasons for x not to work
[11:45] <chaosmind> Gundjah: what Ubuntu needs is a runlevel editor, so you can easily edit runlevel 3 (for instance) not to launch GDM
[11:45] <kuru> lsuactiafner, all i wanted was hpijs and hplip
[11:45] <_rb_> kuru, are you using nvidia ?
[11:45] <k31th> johndarkhorse: yeah i dont want to use ndiswrapper
[11:45] <kuru> not sure why it upgraded Xorg as well
[11:45] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - apt-get installed BlackBox directly to the session menu. Didn't do the same for Enlightenment - that's why I'm trying to find the way to do it manually.
[11:45] <kuru> _rb_, no, "vesa"
[11:46] <_rb_> ah
[11:46] <eobanb> you werent using xorg before?
[11:46] <keyes> Is there a way to know if a computer is running hoary, warty or breezy without open sources.list ?
[11:46] <johndarkhorse> k31th: give the netgear ma111 a shot
[11:46] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, doesn't the dlink dwl-g122 work? http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=1&pid=334
[11:46] <kuru> _rb_, I have an i810 chip so it doesn't do anything above 1024x768 :(
[11:46] <[LethAL] > Gundjah: selectwm
[11:46] <kuru> eobanb, yup
[11:46] <_rb_> uhuh
[11:46] <lsuactiafner> kuru : something compiled for breezy wont work on your system, different glibc as far as i understand.
[11:46] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - never heard :-)
[11:46] <eobanb> xfree to xorg often breaks stuff
[11:46] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: i got the info on the ma111 right from a horses mouth on its functionality ootb
[11:46] <kuru> lsuactiafner, I can understand the glibc stuff.. which was upgrded..
[11:46] <[LethAL] > Gundjah: Wuh?
[11:47] <lsuactiafner> kuru : if you want those apps compile from from source next time
[11:47] <Sarr-chan> lol, its actually quite funny watching noobs run around in ubuntu-unregged asking questions about their ubuntu problems =P
[11:47] <kuru> lsuactiafner, hardly a reasonable way to do things
[11:47] <chaosmind> Gundjah: enlightenment won't add to the list automatically; see here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46105&highlight=e17
[11:47] <lsuactiafner> kuru : but right now your xorg aint compiled for the new glibc aint it?
[11:47] <kuru> lsuactiafner, so it did upgrade it.. makes sense
[11:47] <lsuactiafner> kuru : 2 source packages do not take any time @ all.
[11:47] <eobanb> what's ubuntu-unregged?
[11:47] <kuru> lsuactiafner, not sure why the fonts are not able to open though
[11:47] <lsuactiafner> kuru : now your broken system takes up much more time
[11:47] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, so the netgear is the best pick at the moment huh? too bad i don't like netgear. :-|
[11:47] <lsuactiafner> kuru : do a dist-upgrade
[11:47] <johndarkhorse> eobanb: -unregged is the jail for spambots
[11:48] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - Never heard about "selectwm". Luckily apt has :-)
[11:48] <[LethAL] > Gundjah: That's what I mean
[11:48] <Gundjah> chaosmind - tnx.
[11:48] <kuru> lsuactiafner, doing it.. estimates a day to finish :(
[11:48] <lsuactiafner> volvoguy : asus has a usb thing 54mb/s compatible with linux
[11:48] <eobanb> heh
[11:48] <kuru> lsuactiafner, surely there is a quicker way ;)
[11:48] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: i dont care. when the warranty is over on this G4 ibook, the plastic is comin off the netgear and the guts of it are bein implanted in the case
[11:48] <lsuactiafner> kuru : will take me around 2 week to have my dist-upgrade finished.
[11:48] <chaosmind> Gundjah: enlightenment on Ubuntu isn't as easy as it should be; the eLive Cd was a real eye-opener!
[11:48] <lsuactiafner> kuru : no.
[11:48] <marc`> Kernal Panic - not synching: attempted to kill
[11:49] <marc`> ^ sounds bad
[11:49] <kuru> lsuactiafner, so I have one doing the upgrade and another one I'm trying to tinker with while the other is downloading
[11:49] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - YIIHAA! That one finds all three :-)
[11:49] <marc`> about 10 seconds into booting
[11:49] <[LethAL] > Gundjah: :D
[11:49] <[LethAL] > marc`: Just reinstall ;)
[11:49] <lsuactiafner> thats bullshit, dont reinstall.
[11:49] <lsuactiafner> marc` : what does the bootup process say before panic?
[11:50] <marc`> a lot of things
[11:50] <johndarkhorse> [LethAL] : once you've installed a *nix, there is never a reason to reinstall
[11:50] <chaosmind> LOL!
[11:50] <marc`> didnt write them all down
[11:50] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, i've seen people do that hack with usb bluetooth dongles.
[11:50] <lsuactiafner> well right before panic..
[11:50] <lsuactiafner> can't help you unless you know
[11:50] <chaosmind> "What does dmesg say?"  "A lot."
[11:50] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: same principle
[11:50] <marc`> k, brb
[11:50] <chaosmind> =)
[11:50] <Gundjah> chaosmind - how do you mean? I haven't done it before, just BlackBox, and that one runs OK. Albeit I have to build the complete menu system from scratch :-)
[11:50] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: of course, the day after i crack my ibook and give it the wifi implant, broadcom will open their drivers for it
[11:51] <lsuactiafner> Gundjah : there is some app for ubuntu that builds the menus
[11:51] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, i'm a musician. i'd just use duct tape and a 6" USB cable and tape the thing to the lid. :)
[11:51] <lsuactiafner> Gundjah : i have mine built after every apt-get and it drives me crazy
[11:51] <chaosmind> Gundjah: yeah, if you install BlackBox from Synaptic (or apt-get), it just shows up in the "sessions" menu automagically...
[11:51] <johndarkhorse> lsuactiafner: Gundjah: like smeg?
[11:51] <eobanb> broadcom will never open their drivers
[11:51] <lsuactiafner> since all my menus have is xterm
[11:51] <Furio_G> Hey folks. I've installed the codecs but still cant play mp3s(xmms and bmp). Also I talk in skype. :(
[11:51] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: ewwwww, you'd degrade the esthetics
[11:51] <[LethAL] > Furio_G: 'The Codecs'?
[11:51] <chaosmind> Gundjah: but after installing enlightenment that way, I had to follow the wiki instructions to manually create an "e" entry so I could launch e16 (e17 never worked for me).
[11:51] <volvoguy> i wish broadcom weren't so evil.
[11:52] <lsuactiafner> Furio_G : run alsamixer, your volume is turned down, up everything
[11:52] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: take your wishes to -offtopic
[11:52] <chaosmind> volvoguy: try complaining to RMS! ;-)
[11:52] <Gundjah> johndarkhorse - wtf is smeg?
[11:52] <eobanb> the reason i've heard broadcom doesnt open their drivers is that their radios are actually capable of transmitting on other frequencies, some of which are used by the US military
[11:52] <Furio_G> LethAl: The codecs from ubuntuguide.org
[11:52] <johndarkhorse> !tell Gundjah about smeg
[11:53] <chaosmind> Gundjah: i'm still waiting for the E-Ubuntu fork!  =)
[11:53] <gfunckers> _rb_
[11:53] <Gundjah> johndarkhores - tnx :-)
[11:53] <_rb_> Seveas, that was totally uncalled foir
[11:53] <johndarkhorse> !tell Furio_G about restricted formats
[11:53] <Gundjah> chaosmind - No wonder. I'm trying to keep an old PII in circulation, that's why I need to go lightweight.
[11:53] <gfunckers> _rb_ could u help me pls sharing my printer into 18 pc
[11:54] <Gundjah> The apps are heavy 'nuff
[11:54] <lsuactiafner> Gundjah : am running from a p166 atm but its my server
[11:54] <johndarkhorse> chaosmind: e17+ubuntu would be sweet, eh?
[11:54] <eobanb> gfunckers could you please not talk like youre on AIM
[11:54] <_rb_> there are others that can help u here
[11:54] <chaosmind> Gundjah: give the EliveCD a whirl: it's amazing how much eye-candy enlightenment can get out of older hardware!
[11:54] <[LethAL] > Right, I'm off to see if I can fix my own problem... *sigh*
[11:54] <gfunckers> what u mean ?
[11:54] <volvoguy> chaosmind, me too. i've been playing with e17 quite a bit.
[11:54] <gfunckers> AIM ?
[11:54] <chaosmind> Gundjah: yeah, e17 Ubuntu is my current dream!!
[11:55] <Seveas> _rb_, look closer, i'm cleaning out that channel
[11:55] <_rb_> oh
[11:55] <_rb_> heh
[11:55] <_rb_> little drunk :P
[11:55] <Gundjah> chaosmind - yap. I had a look, and if it delivers what it promises...
[11:55] <johndarkhorse> no living person is supposed to be in #ubuntu-unregged
[11:55] <rittap> can someone help me with a mount-problem?
[11:55] <johndarkhorse> _rb_: if you read the topic in there, you'd be prepared to be 'swept out'
[11:56] <johndarkhorse> rittap: if you tell us about it
[11:56] <chaosmind> Gundjah: don't get yer hopes up-- menu editing is still "pulling teeth" in e17... 'least compared to GNOME!
[11:56] <gfunckers> _rb_ could u give me a site for printer sharing
[11:56] <Gundjah> lsuactiafner - Yap. These oldies tend to be a bit cheaper, so network building is a lot cheaper :-)
[11:56] <Gundjah> chaosmind - I'd believe there is a manual way to do it, like with BBox.
[11:56] <nathanel> gfunckers: http://localhost:631/sam.html
[11:56] <rittap> well in my computer is a second hard-drive (NTFS) and i tried to mount that, but i cant access it except as root because it's read-only
[11:56] <gfunckers> ok
[11:57] <gfunckers> nathanel ^^
[11:57] <johndarkhorse> rittap: writing to NTFS is a sure way to have an all linux box
[11:57] <Furio_G> johndarkhorse: I've installed those codecs. Whenever I open the player it actually freezes. The track time bar doesnt move, nothing.
[11:57] <topyli> chaosmind: e17 is the longhorn of free software world
[11:57] <eobanb> johndarkhorse, haha
[11:57] <chaosmind> Gundjah: yeah, it's there, but under e17 things are changing quite quickly... heh!  you mean Vista!  ;-)
[11:57] <rittap> johndarkhorse: because i want to format it to ext3, i want to copy all the files
[11:58] <eobanb> if it's read-only, what's the problem with copying files from it
[11:58] <topyli> chaosmind: i do hope raster and friends pull it off. i was a big fan of e16 once
[11:58] <rittap> i can' t access it
[11:58] <marc`> /sbin/init: 428: cannot open dev/console: no such file
[11:58] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, i guess i should have used the verbose option for gpart. it's still sitting at "begin scan...". oops.
[11:58] <eobanb> what's the error message?
[11:58] <johndarkhorse> rittap: you can copy all the files from the NTFS drive
[11:58] <marc`> kernal panic - not synching: attempted to kill init!
[11:59] <johndarkhorse> !tell rittap about ntfs
[11:59] <Gundjah> chaosmind - thought so. Losing it would be agaist the spirit. M$ can keep the one-way-only approach as far as I'm concerned.
[11:59] <johndarkhorse> rittap: read the mail ubotu sent you
[11:59] <eobanb> i think dpkg is borked.
[11:59] <_rb_> Henyway....
[11:59] <chaosmind> toyyli: i have faith in raster... to follow his design whims! ;-)
[11:59] <_rb_> probs with php not getting recognised by apache
[11:59] <johndarkhorse> Furio_G: are you using hoary or breezy?
[11:59] <chaosmind> (oops... topyli, sorry!)
[11:59] <rittap> johndarkhorse: i'm going to try it now thanks
[11:59] <eobanb> hi, dpkg
[12:00] <johndarkhorse> rittap: instructions are at the top of the script (read it in any text editor/pager)
[12:00] <eobanb> oh, wait..
[12:00] <topyli> chaosmind: he is a free thinker isn't he :)
[12:00] <eobanb> dpkg isnt even in this channel..
[12:00] <topyli> eobanb: no, we have ubotu
[12:00] <eobanb> yeah :)
[12:00] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - selectwm page says it should run when you start X. Have you tried this on Ubuntu?
[12:00] <Furio_G> johndarkhorse: Horay. This is my 4th install(happens all the time)
[12:01] <eobanb> sorry it's 5 here, i'm tired :)
[12:01] <_rb_> i stopped counting how many times i installed, mainly due to not wanting to loose downloaded data
[12:01] <rittap> johndarkhorse: where should i put the script??
[12:01] <_rb_> its 10 here, get hard :P
[12:02] <johndarkhorse> Furio_G: i'd think that you'd try to learn the problem so you can quit reinstalling (reinstalling is non productive)
[12:02] <ssh_rdp> hi , i got a problem using breezy , i cant make gcc-3.3 as the default compiler and some of my apps aren't compatible with gcc-4.0
[12:02] <rittap> johndarkhorse: just in /etc/??
[12:03] <johndarkhorse> rittap: you may execute it and throw it away
[12:03] <eobanb> gcc 4 is default in breezy?
[12:03] <rittap> johndarkhorse: okay
[12:03] <johndarkhorse> rittap: you can save it anywhere you like, it only needs to be run once
[12:03] <eobanb> i need to look at the breezy changelog.....
[12:04] <Gundjah> Apropos Breezy. If I'm running Hoary, does apt-get dist-upgrade ... well, upgrade to Breezy?
[12:04] <ssh_rdp> yes
[12:04] <topyli> ssh_rdp: /usr/bin/gc  is just a link, managed by the alternatives system. you can set the compiler variable (i don't remember how exactly) when compiling, or you can change the link to point to 3.3
[12:04] <marc`> /sbin/init: 428: cannot open dev/console: no such file
[12:04] <marc`> kernal panic - not synching: attempted to kill init!
[12:05] <Furio_G> johndarkhorse: Na i dont reinstall because of this. I have experimented over the last month with many distros. Now i've come to the conclusion that Ubuntu is best. But each time i installed Ubuntu i couldnt get it to work. Now that i've decided on Ubuntu, iI was to isntall it ocne and for all with everything working :)
[12:05] <char1iecha1k> im struggling to setup a vpn client can someone assist please
[12:05] <Furio_G> ok that didnt make sense
[12:05] <nathanel> Gundjah: no, unless you also add breezy to your sources.list
[12:05] <johndarkhorse> Furio_G: then there are other folks to ask about sound then me, i run ppc hardware and it's all different
[12:05] <Furio_G> johndarkhorse: ok mate, not probs. Thanks for your help :)
[12:05] <ssh_rdp> i tried that but when i try to compile something with gcc-3.3 i get some problems with libraries compiled with gcc-4
[12:06] <Gundjah> nathanel - figures. Do you happen to know the repositories?
[12:06] <Leshrac> hello
[12:06] <nathanel> ssh_rdp: export CC=gcc-3.3 CPP=cpp-3.3 CXX=g++-3.3 ./configure
[12:06] <Leshrac> can somebody tell me how to download a file in command line?
[12:06] <PlutoPrime> wget url
[12:07] <Sarr-chan> leshrac: wget
[12:07] <liable> wget
[12:07] <Leshrac> thanks
[12:07] <nathanel> Gundjah: just replace hoary with breezy
[12:07] <char1iecha1k> what is the easiest way to get vpn going?
[12:08] <Gundjah> nathanel - well that does sound logical indeed :-)
[12:08] <Gundjah> K. Let's reboot and see what did we break this time :-D
[12:08] <PlutoPrime> Gundjah, modify your repositories and everywhere you see the word hoary replace it with breezy
[12:08] <ssh_rdp> nathanel:  thank you
[12:09] <scaroo> hi ppl !!
[12:09] <volvoguy> char1iecha1k, i can give you zero details, but searching around for a friend revealed "openvpn" and "openswan" available for ubuntu.
[12:09] <PlutoPrime> char1iecha1k, you can go to ubuntuforums and search, maybe there are guides
[12:09] <claudia_> hello
[12:09] <claudia_> i have problems
[12:10] <marc`> who doesnt?
[12:10] <claudia_> i cant play back video properly
[12:10] <char1iecha1k> PlutoPrime i have been searching and found lots but they are very complicated and i cant seem to figure out how to get any of them going so i want to start with the easiest
[12:10] <claudia_> it stutters sometimes
[12:10] <claudia_> and i cant playback dvds
[12:10] <eobanb> stutters sometimes?
[12:10] <eobanb> how fast is your CPU?
[12:10] <PlutoPrime> claudia_, using totem?
[12:10] <ssh_rdp> did you see ubuntuguide.org?
[12:11] <claudia_> yes, runs perfectly for about 5 seconds, then stops for about 100 milliseconds, then again
[12:11] <scaroo> i am using mergedfb to handle multiscreen, it works fine but the WM seems confused : windows appear randomly on the first or second display ... is there any way to fine tune it ?
[12:11] <claudia_> yes, totem
[12:11] <PlutoPrime> claudia_, is this totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[12:11] <claudia_> gstreamer
[12:11] <rittap> johndarkhorse: it says no usable partitions found
[12:11] <claudia_> i have a 450 mhz pentium3 here
[12:11] <rittap> do i first have to mount it
[12:11] <johndarkhorse> ssh_rdp: please dont advise the ubuntuguide
[12:11] <PlutoPrime> claudia_, if you want decent video playback I highly recommend totem-xine
[12:11] <johndarkhorse> rittap: really?
[12:11] <johndarkhorse> rittap: how weird
[12:12] <claudia_> and gmplayer is terribly slow
[12:12] <PlutoPrime> I ave had very poor performance and bad experience with that
[12:12] <rittap> johndarkhorse: what i said
[12:12] <ssh_rdp> johndarkhorse: why?
[12:12] <PlutoPrime> claudia_, try this , system->prefrences->multimedia system selector
[12:12] <PlutoPrime> then change to the video tab
[12:12] <|maddox|> claudia_: compile, it will be faster
[12:12] <eobanb> 450 MHz...that's about on the threshold of dvd playback...unless you have a DVD drive with hardware MPEG?
[12:12] <rittap> johndarkhorse, now what?
[12:13] <PlutoPrime> claudia_, what is the output set to?
[12:14] <claudia_> videosink is "Xv"
[12:14] <johndarkhorse> rittap: is your NTFS partition healthy?
[12:14] <PlutoPrime> claudia_, when you hit test does it show the color bars?
[12:14] <marc`> so ill just reinstall and try not to rip my hair out?
[12:15] <fek> morghn
[12:15] <marc`> sounds fun, only took 20 attempts to install last time
[12:15] <gfunckers> how can i open a file into other computer ?
[12:15] <rittap> johndarkhorse, this is what it said:
[12:15] <eobanb> gfunckers, what?
[12:15] <claudia_> PlutoPrime, yes
[12:15] <PlutoPrime> gfunckers, could you rephrase that?
[12:15] <rittap> johndarkhorse, did you get the pm?
[12:16] <gfunckers> i want to open my file that i save here into another computer
[12:16] <gfunckers> by using networking
[12:16] <johndarkhorse> rittap: does your ntfs partition have a funny name?
[12:16] <rittap> johndarkhorse, yeah i gave a name in windows
[12:16] <PlutoPrime> claudia_, then it seems you have overlay enabled... I suggest installing totem-xine see if that fixes the performance issues
[12:17] <rittap> johndarkhorse, i believe it had a space
[12:17] <johndarkhorse> rittap: can you rename it in windows?
[12:17] <Leshrac> is there any way I can download the ati video drivers via apt-get install?
[12:17] <rittap> johndarkhorse, can i rename it in terminal/
[12:17] <Micksa> so
[12:17] <Micksa> how do I tell gdm or whatever to run my ~/.xsession?
[12:18] <gfunckers> my file was in station1 and i want it to open here in station18
[12:18] <johndarkhorse> rittap: i dont advise writing to ntfs in any fashion
[12:18] <walde> Is ISA-Support compiled into ubuntu-standardkernel?
[12:18] <rittap> johndarkhorse, i'll see if i can
[12:19] <gfunckers> i already share it, but the file i save does was not shown
[12:19] <gfunckers> i already shar it, but the file was not shown
[12:20] <kemik> gfunckers:  got samba or nfs setup?
[12:20] <PlutoPrime> gfunckers, you can browse manually by opening a nautilus browser window, type smb://ipaddress/
[12:20] <PlutoPrime> in the address bar
[12:21] <gfunckers> hmm
[12:21] <gfunckers> kk i try
[12:21] <marc`> im about to reinstall
[12:21] <marc`> someone hold me back
[12:21] <tamarack> does anyone here happen to have ubuntu running on a gateway laptop?
[12:23] <tamarack> I'm getting an "mtrr is not aligned on a size boundary" error using the i915 driver
[12:23] <johndarkhorse> marc`: the more you reinstall b/c you dont understand something, the more the lack of understanding will hold you back
[12:23] <marc`> you have a better idea?
[12:24] <johndarkhorse> marc`: fix what's ailing you/it
[12:24] <marc`> /sbin/init: 428: cannot open dev/console: no such file
[12:24] <marc`> kernal panic - not synching: attempted to kill init!
[12:24] <chaosmind> johndarkhorse: painful wisdom.
[12:24] <johndarkhorse> marc`: is it hoary or breezy?
[12:24] <marc`> 5.04
[12:24] <marc`> i dont know the names yet, only had it running once
[12:25] <johndarkhorse> marc`: ah. have you tried colony 4?
[12:25] <marc`> havent really had a chance.
[12:25] <marc`> it wont boot
[12:25] <marc`> hoary
[12:25] <topyli> marc`: most times a reinstall will just give you the same problems you had if you install the same system the same way. if you know what to do differently, only then it might help
[12:26] <johndarkhorse> marc`: what kind of hardware is it on?
[12:26] <Zhukov_> hi everyone
[12:26] <marc`> more specific what hardware?
[12:26] <marc`> 386 architechure, pentium 4,
[12:26] <johndarkhorse> marc`: what kind of computer hardware are you gettin the kernel panics on?
[12:27] <johndarkhorse> marc`: is it smokin hot new?
[12:27] <marc`> 9 months old
[12:27] <Zhukov_> CAn anyone help me please? I getting beagle to work at full power, but  i need to patch wv and the website reffers to a page with this:
[12:27] <Zhukov_> http://users.avafan.com/~fredrik/beagle/wv-libole2-readonly.patch
[12:27] <johndarkhorse> marc`: try colony-4 or a daily breezy install disc   cdimage.ubuntu.com
[12:27] <mata_svada> hey guys, i have got a major problem here: i can't really boot my ubunut system anymore...
[12:27] <Zhukov_> how do i install this???
[12:29] <mata_svada> i can't even login in the console. it says: could find /home/mata (=my nick)
[12:29] <mata_svada> is it possible thata my file system is broken (I'm using reiserfs)
[12:29] <Zhukov_> mata_svada, boot with a live cd and chec the disks
[12:30] <mata_svada> right now i'm using a live cd
[12:30] <mata_svada> how do i check the disks??
[12:30] <Zhukov_> Cmon folks, can anyone tell me how to install that thing?
[12:30] <Zhukov_> mata_svada, do you still have the home folder?
[12:30] <Seveas> mata_svada, fsck /dev/yourdrive
[12:31] <Zhukov_> :S
[12:32] <mata_svada> it say it can't read the superblock and that i'm not usinf ext2
[12:32] <mata_svada> ??
[12:33] <Hoxzer> where is mplayer's suorce directory?
[12:33] <Zhukov_> mata_svada, can you acess your data?
[12:33] <mata_svada> it all happed when i tried to compile mplayer...
[12:33] <mata_svada> no
[12:33] <mata_svada> i cant mount the reiserfs partition
[12:33] <Zhukov_> none of your folders?
[12:33] <Zhukov_> oh ok
[12:33] <Zhukov_> ext3doesnt have a backup tool, ext2 does, i dunno about reiserfs
[12:34] <mata_svada> so, any ideas??
[12:34] <Micksa> I want my ~/.xsession :(
[12:35] <oracel> :(
[12:35] <mata_svada> actually, i can read the partition now...
[12:36] <mata_svada> i used the konsole instead of the file-browser
[12:36] <Zhukov_> mata_svada, lol,then copy the files and format the pc
[12:36] <peterretief> is beagle the next release or is it a sausage dog
[12:36] <volvoguy> ext3 IS ext2 with a journal layer, isn't it?
[12:36] <Zhukov_> and use a stable filesystem
[12:36] <steven_Laptop> morning all someone got a link for how to get vmware working on 5.10
[12:36] <Zhukov_> peterretief, beagle is a serach tool
[12:37] <volvoguy> peterretief, Dapper Drake is the next release.
[12:37] <mata_svada> all the files or just my home directory
[12:37] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: tell me when Stinky Skunk is coming out, please
[12:37] <sorush20> Gundjah: the only reason why you have to identify your self on this server is because the server is under attack from spam bot..
[12:38] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, i think that was unreleased. pre-warty. :)
[12:38] <char1iecha1k> there is somehting wrong with my deafult.conf for vpnc im stuck
[12:38] <mata_svada> by the way, is ext3 stable?
[12:38] <topyli> peterretief: beagle is in breezy universe
[12:38] <volvoguy> mata_svada, yes.
[12:38] <deFrysk> mata_svada, extremely stable
[12:38] <ompaul> mata_svada, very
[12:38] <Gundjah> sorush20 - I have nothing against identifying. Why?
[12:38] <peterretief> ah thanks guys
[12:38] <johndarkhorse> see y'all later
[12:38] <volvoguy> later johndarkhorse
[12:39] <mata_svada> ok, so i just copy all the files to a partition, format the reserfs - partition, and thats it??
[12:39] <theD3viL> How to set up iso-8895-2 in xmms? PLEASE HELP ME!
[12:39] <mata_svada> would that work??
[12:41] <Alex_BO> HELLO!How can i see if my mic works?
[12:41] <Gundjah> LOL
[12:41] <mata_svada> ....
[12:41] <Zhukov_> ...
[12:41] <keith-> Alex_BO: blow into it.
[12:41] <sorush20> how do I make sure that my AGP graphics card which an ATI has been fully installed on ubuntu
[12:41] <Zhukov_> loool
[12:41] <mata_svada> would be nice if you guys could tell me what to do
[12:41] <Micksa> FINE
[12:41] <Micksa> I'LL FIGURE IT OUT MYSELF THEN
[12:41] <keith-> sorush20: fglrxinfo  <-- what's the output from that
[12:41] <Alex_BO> keith-, okey. i can't see anything
[12:41] <yasmani> hey there... i have a problem... whenever i start ubuntu i only see the round cursor and a black screen. i can move the cursor and everything, but i never see the gdm-login-screen.... any ideas?
[12:41] <Zhukov_> mata_svada, copy the to another partition, or pc
[12:41] <Micksa> SOME SUPPORT CHANNEL I WANT MY MONEY BACK
[12:42] <topyli> Alex_BO: say "one two one two, testing testing, one two"
[12:42] <volvoguy> keith-, i hope that's a joke. don't blow into a mic. just talk into it.
[12:42] <mata_svada> the 'to'?
[12:42] <Gundjah> Micksa - what's your problem???
[12:42] <Alex_BO> topyli, nothing
[12:42] <mata_svada> whats that?
[12:42] <Zhukov_> and format that one to ext3 or to the all secure ext2
[12:42] <keith-> volvoguy: i prefer to blow things.
[12:42] <topyli> ewww
[12:42] <volvoguy> i prefer not to buy new things when mold grows on them.
[12:43] <volvoguy> or they rust.
[12:43] <topyli> that's sage advice
[12:43] <Alex_BO> topyli, keith-: is there a test or something else?
[12:43] <yasmani> does anyone have an idea on my problem or know where i can research?
[12:43] <marc`> downloaded a theme for firefox, got a .jar file (im guessing similar to zip), where to extract it, i cant find the equiv of program files
[12:43] <yasmani> maybe i could just reinstall the whole system?
[12:43] <marc`> this is once i get it loading...
[12:43] <ompaul> theD3viL, first up caps are considered shouting .. second xmms right click (title bar - hard to see but the top of the app)  options - preferences - fonts - browse - filter - CAPS OFF   ,,,, :)
[12:43] <giovann> can some one give a site for printer sharing
[12:43] <keith-> Alex_BO: run sound recorder...
[12:43] <ompaul> Micksa, give it a break and caps off please
[12:44] <Gundjah> marc - firefox themes, just double-click and let FFox install by itself.
[12:44] <topyli> Alex_BO: just the gnome volume monitor or another tool that checks if noise is coming in
[12:44] <marc`> it didnt
[12:44] <marc`> it opened a .jar file
[12:44] <Gundjah> mrac` - that-s a LOT easier
[12:44] <sorush20> keith I get no output
[12:44] <keith-> sorush20: are you in X?
[12:44] <sorush20> keith-: I'm in KDE
[12:45] <giovann> any one know a site of printer sharing ?
[12:45] <keith-> fglrxinfo should say something then... did you run it in a terminal or using the run thingy?
[12:45] <elvirolo> hi all
[12:45] <marc`> it should workm but it doesnt
[12:45] <rittap> exit
[12:45] <sorush20> keith-: terminal
[12:45] <Gundjah> marc' - they are .jar files. If you allow websites to install software in your FireFox preferences, then click the "Install" it should do it. Have a try.
[12:45] <char1iecha1k> what is ipsec id and ipsec secret on vpnc??? when usiung winslows all i need is username and password and ip
[12:45] <keith-> sorush20: and it said nothing?  not even a command not found?
[12:45] <Alex_BO> keith-, topyli nothing
[12:46] <elvirolo> could anyone help me and confirm (or not) a bug i'm experiencing ?
[12:46] <theD3viL> ompaul, what about xmms menu?
[12:46] <Micksa> gundjah: ubuntu appears not to honor ~/.Xsession
[12:46] <marc`> when i get ubuntu working again
[12:46] <keith-> Alex_BO: did you check the volumes on it?
[12:46] <sorush20> keith-: command not found..
[12:46] <Micksa> but, as it turns out
[12:46] <Micksa> it does run ~/.gnomerc
[12:46] <Alex_BO> keith-, i run alsamixer
[12:46] <Micksa> so whatever
[12:46] <keith-> sorush20: and you typed it exact?  fglrxinfo  <-- no typo?  if the command isn't there then you don't have it installed.
[12:46] <Gundjah> Micksa - that's illuminating indeed...
[12:47] <sorush20> keith-: yes I copied and pated..
[12:47] <elvirolo> when i change my network settings in "network settings" (kcontrol) from dhcp to static ip and then apply the settings, it goes backto dhcp
[12:47] <sorush20> keith-:  pasted
[12:47] <keith-> sorush20: xorg-driver-fglrx  <-- sudo aptitude install that
[12:48] <Alex_BO> keith-, any help?
[12:48] <keith-> sorush20: and if you haven't already install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[12:48] <keith-> Alex_BO: no clue.
[12:48] <Zaacc> umm i was wondering, is it possible for a ubuntu server to work with 32mb of ram?
[12:48] <Zaacc> thanks :)
[12:48] <elvirolo> is it relevant to report bugs related to internationalisation yet ?
[12:49] <sorush20> thanks keith
[12:49] <keith-> sorush20: running hoary or breezy?
[12:50] <sorush20> keith-: I think there should be a popup message when the kernel detects the radeon AGp card..  then it should have told me to install the driver..
[12:50] <sorush20> keith-: I'm running hoary
[12:50] <keith-> sorush20: you think you are running windows?
[12:50] <keith-> sorush20: the fglrx driver isn't free software... hence... it's not stock.
[12:50] <Fr0Gs> how can i connect to a ppoe connection in Ubuntu then share it to a windows xp machine?
[12:50] <sorush20> keith-: no.. I'm not
[12:51] <keith-> sorush20: when you get those downloaded, run fglrxconfig ... set stuff up... restart X... back up your old copy of X before hand in case you screw up.
[12:51] <keith-> sorush20: or run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:51] <sorush20> keith-: what do you mean its not free.. I bought the hardware and I have the right to have it work correctly for me..
[12:51] <keith-> sorush20: it's not open source... it's not free software.  you obviously are new to linux.
[12:52] <sorush20> keith and anyone else there is a wiki on this. .https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ATI%29
[12:53] <keith-> sorush20: i'm aware of this.
[12:53] <Leshrac> my kubuntu starts in console mode, what do I do to make the graphical show up?
[12:53] <BROKEN_LADDER>  i've found the pattern.  every time i update (or downgrade) my kernel, i have to poke around to get sound working again.
[12:53] <keith-> Leshrac: hoary or breezy?
[12:53] <Leshrac> hoary
[12:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> there's no obvious method.  i just restart esd several times, try to switch xmms to use different devices, cause some stuff to crash, and eventually it works again permanently, until the next kernel change.
[12:53] <keith-> Leshrac: run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:54] <Leshrac> thanks
[12:54] <sorush20> I have a 686 kernel, the restricted modules I have is a 386 should I change. .
[12:54] <lsuactiafner> !kernel
[12:54] <keith-> sorush20: there is a 686 version of them
[12:54] <keith-> sorush20: hence me saying aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[12:56] <sorush20> keith-: should I remove the 386 and install the 686, what does the  aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` mean..
[12:57] <keith-> remove the 386 kernel?  if you aren't using it yes... and if you installed the 386 restricted yes... and it's a command...
[12:58] <char1iecha1k> is there a simple way to setup a vpn client to a windows box ? yes i have read all faqs etc and i am confused as to what to do
[12:59] <keith-> char1iecha1k: i believe ubuntu comes with realvnc  ... and i believe there is a windows client/server for realvnc as well...
[01:00] <char1iecha1k> i want vpn not vnc
[01:00] <char1iecha1k> i can already do vnc and rdesktop
[01:00] <Leshrac> keith- : I have ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, what do I do now?
[01:00] <char1iecha1k> im soo confused with this vpn i dont know what i need to do
[01:01] <char1iecha1k> i have every vpn client installed but i dont know which buttions to press spome help meeeeee
[01:01] <kemik> char1iecha1k:  we heard you the first time
[01:02] <keith-> Leshrac: sudo gdm
[01:02] <kemik> char1iecha1k:  try #networking or some channel like that
[01:02] <CrTr> how to add my dns's by console ?
[01:02] <Leshrac> keith- I'm running kde
[01:02] <char1iecha1k> i have even got a nice script to create a pptp connection which it does but after that i dont know how to start it
[01:02] <kemik> CrTr:  sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[01:02] <keith-> Leshrac: sudo kdm
[01:03] <Leshrac> keith-: prints no response
[01:03] <Leshrac> and well, does nothing visible
[01:03] <CrTr> gedit: command not found
[01:03] <Leshrac> use vi instead CrTr
[01:04] <keith-> Leshrac: does it toss an error?
[01:04] <Leshrac> no
[01:04] <Leshrac> I just get the command prompt
[01:04] <keith-> hit alt+f7 <-- anything there?
[01:05] <Leshrac> black screen
[01:05] <keith-> Leshrac: what's startx do?
[01:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there any way to "reset" alsa?
[01:06] <keith-> BROKEN_LADDER: do you have non-stock drivers for your soundcard?
[01:06] <Leshrac> it loads, thanks keith-
[01:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> no no..
[01:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> my sound works
[01:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> but every time i change my kernel, even if i change it and then change it back, my sound doesn't work until i poke around with a million things
[01:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> esd starts fine.  xmms appears to be playing.
[01:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> the red light on my spdif cable comes on.
[01:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> but no actual sound comes through.
[01:07] <keith-> what kind of sound card is it?
[01:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> every time i've fixed it, i've just done stuff like stop and restart esd, and make apps crash by telling them to use devices that they can't access
[01:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> ich6 on board audio
[01:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> realtek something er other
[01:08] <keith-> System-Preferences-Multimedia Systems Selector <-- what's the Output set to in that?
[01:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm in kde
[01:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> i have everything using esd.  but even if i kill esd and have xmms, for instance, use alsa directly, it makes no difference
[01:09] <CrTr> (gedit:3536): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:              what to do ?
[01:11] <keith-> CrTr: try gedit --display :0
[01:12] <Nexinarus> since i have to be registered now to join #ubuntu, under GAIM is there a way to do auto-perform commands on server join? :S
[01:13] <Snoblower> can someone help me? i just finished burning the live CD onto a disk and now i can't figure out how to boot it
[01:13] <Nexinarus> nm
[01:13] <Nexinarus> Snoblower: try restart you're computer
[01:13] <Snoblower> i have, many times
[01:14] <Nexinarus> and make sure you're bios is set to boot off cdrom's
[01:14] <Snoblower> i don't know how to do that though
[01:14] <Nexinarus> how did you burn the iso to the cd anyway?
[01:14] <Nexinarus> what program/settings that is
[01:14] <Snoblower> i have no idea
[01:15] <Snoblower> i right clicke dthe icon on my desktop and sent it to my CDrom drive, then burned it
[01:15] <Nexinarus> when you put the cd into the drive (in windows presumably) what are the contents of the cd?
[01:15] <Snoblower> it was a blank cd
[01:15] <Nexinarus> ok now that you have burned it, what are the cd contents?
[01:16] <Snoblower> ubunutu-5.04-live-i386.iso
[01:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'd do anything for sound...anything for sound...anything, anything...for sound...
[01:16] <Nexinarus> sorry Snoblower you have burned it wrong :S
[01:17] <Snoblower> haha
[01:17] <Snoblower> damn...
[01:17] <Nexinarus> ok so you dont have Nero?
[01:17] <Snoblower> nope...
[01:17] <Nexinarus> ok.. ill try find software to burn it.. 1 sec
[01:17] <giovann> oh thanks
[01:17] <Nexinarus> !iso
[01:17] <ubotu> Nexinarus: I give up, what is it?
[01:18] <giovann> any one here know what is the site of printer sharing ?
[01:18] <apsync> hi, what is a good C/C++ editor for linux?
[01:19] <giovann> pls tell me what is the site of printer sharing
[01:19] <thenuke> giovann: google?
[01:19] <Nexinarus> Snoblower: try get this: http://www.afterdawn.com/software/dawnload.cfm?mirror=0&software_id=298
[01:19] <Nexinarus> its called DVD decrypter..
[01:19] <Nexinarus> but it also burns iso's to cd's
[01:20] <kataklsym> roxio and nero both burn iso's too
[01:20] <Nexinarus> apsync: try Anjuta, or Kdevelop. Or if you can manage to download/install, Eclipse is quite a big (but good) editor.
[01:21] <kataklsym> it would be a wise idea to install nero in windows, its bout the best cdr/dvdr software for windows
[01:21] <Nexinarus> yeah.. but if he dont have it then well :p
[01:22] <apsync> ah Ok, thank you
[01:22] <sorush20> keith
[01:23] <sorush20> keith-: you messed up my pc it will not load now
[01:23] <sorush20> anyone there
[01:23] <Nexinarus> yep
[01:24] <sorush20> keith-: I did as you said now I cant even load the grub
[01:24] <sorush20> anyone there..
[01:25] <Snoblower> Nexinarus, that page isn't displaying properly for some reason
[01:25] <Nexinarus> ok..
[01:25] <Nexinarus> Snoblower: try here: http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd_decrypter.cfm
[01:25] <Snoblower> ok, thanks
[01:26] <llpamies> How can add a subtitle inside an avi file ?
[01:27] <llpamies> for see it with totem ?
[01:27] <sorush20> can someone help I removed the kernel modules restriced 386 and installed the 686 since my kernel was a 686 now I can't even load the grub on the computer.
[01:28] <mjr> avi files can't hold subtitles
[01:28] <llpamies> mjr, wich format can do it ?
[01:28] <sorush20> keith-: are you there..
[01:29] <Toma-> what are the x11/xorg packages called?
[01:30] <sorush20> keith-: are you there..
[01:30] <sorush20> keith-: are you there..
[01:30] <sorush20> keith-:
[01:31] <dsas> Toma: xserver-xorg iirc
[01:31] <Toma-> thanks dsas
[01:31] <] Sephiroth[> sorush dont you think asking for 1 time is enough ;)
[01:31] <volvoguy> does anyone know how easy the Enigmail extention for Thunderbird is to use, and if I install it, if it's required to send/receive all mail?
[01:32] <mjr> llpamies, ogg and ogm at least
[01:32] <sorush20> ] Sephiroth[: he told me to do something and it fuck my pc it woun't even load the grub..
[01:32] <mjr> kozz, and mkv
[01:33] <llpamies> mjr, there is any good editor for extract video and audio from avi and generate an ogm ?
[01:33] <marc`> !tell marc` about ntfs
[01:33] <Hoxzer> somebody know where is mplayer directory as default?
[01:34] <Toma-> If i get this error... "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!" do i need to install the xorg-dev package? i cant find one...
[01:36] <sorush20> Linux uBuntu boot stops at starting enterprise volume management system
[01:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> does it make any sense that my audio system _appears_ to run but makes no sound?
[01:37] <Nexinarus> is volume turned up heh?
[01:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> xmms looks like it's going, but no sound, ever since i changed kernels (changing back doesn't do anything)
[01:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> of course
[01:37] <marc`> how do i stop a script window closing when its dont
[01:37] <marc`> done
[01:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> this just happens every so often, whenever the kernel changes apparently.
[01:37] <marc`> so i can read what it says
[01:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> the bars go up and down in xmms
[01:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> the volume monitor shows it.
[01:38] <sorush20> I keep getting EXt-fs error (device hda1) in start_transaction: Readonly file system
[01:38] <stelki> Hello, cant I make the update program not update my kernel? Im not sure if I like that :S
[01:38] <Alex_BO> Hello!I have a problem with the recording from microphone.The volume is too low, i think because there isn't boost. I tried to connect my radio to the computer and I listen to it well (because it's auto boosted).The mic needs to be boost, but I don't know how to active it.
[01:38] <volvoguy> liable, gpart is still running away on that drive. :)
[01:39] <stelki> Alex_BO, try looking in alsamixer, I have a mic boost option there..
[01:39] <nalioth> volvoguy: yes, the horror of having space
[01:39] <Alex_BO> stelki, i found already that option, but i don't know how to active it
[01:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> funny volvoguy , i used to be vulvaguy
[01:40] <volvoguy> nalioth, luckily i have some of my parents data on the drive. if i can get it back, i'm going to blackmail them for a pair of new drives for a raid array. :-)
[01:40] <ghort> upgraded to breezy, my x keyboard is not working right with the same config, any clue ?
[01:40] <CrTr> how to install .deb by dpkg ?
[01:40] <stelki> Alex_BO, oh, press "m"
[01:41] <echylo> hello, can someone advise me a good irc server?
[01:41] <ghort> CrTr, dpkg -i .deb_file
[01:41] <Alex_BO> stelki, yeah!
[01:41] <Alex_BO> stelki, thank you so much (but why is alsamixer so difficult?)
[01:41] <Alex_BO> stelki, it's not userfriendly
[01:41] <selinium> HI guys, whan i use soundjuicer using hdparm, I have managed to get ripping up to 3.9x but after the first rip it drops to around 1.8x. Any ideas on why/how to stop this?
[01:41] <stelki> Alex_BO, hehe, its not so logical at first :)
[01:42] <stelki> Alex_BO, man pages are nice, though.
[01:42] <nalioth> volvoguy: every little bit helps
[01:42] <Alex_BO> stelki, can i boost more?
[01:43] <stelki> Alex_BO, I dont think so, I've you've already turned your mic fully up
[01:43] <volvoguy> does a plain old PCI slot have enough bandwidth to take advantage of a PCI SATA card (potentially with hardware raid capabilities)?
[01:43] <Nexinarus> wow gDesklets are awesome :D
[01:43] <apsync> hi, what's GNOME and GNOME2
[01:43] <nalioth> volvoguy: yes
[01:43] <stelki> apsync, desktops..
[01:43] <fredric> Hi.. I'm somewhat of a ubuntu beginner.. I was wondering if there is any way to upgrade to breezy without reinstalling the entire system
[01:43] <Hoxzer> "- and sure enough, in debian/patches/03_configure.dpatch, I spot these interesting lines:"
[01:43] <nalioth> fredric: yes, the system is designed for that very thing
[01:44] <mjr> apsync, GNOME 2 is the current major version of GNOME, which is Ubuntu's desktop environment
[01:44] <apsync> ah Ok
[01:44] <[LethAL] > fredric, Yes, but I wouldn't recommend i
[01:44] <Hoxzer> there is no folder like debian in ubuntu system :D
[01:44] <Alex_BO> stelki, what program do you use for recording?
[01:44] <Hoxzer> like wtf I dont unterstand
[01:44] <volvoguy> nalioth, excellent. any preferred brands (or brands to avoid?)
[01:44] <apsync> how can I know which version I have?
[01:44] <stelki> Alex_BO, I dont really record anything :) Only use it for teamspeak.
[01:44] <Hoxzer> where mplayer suorce directory located?
[01:44] <mjr> apsync, which Ubuntu version do you have?
[01:44] <apsync> lol, the latest breezy thingy :$
[01:44] <ofer0> !ubuntuguide
[01:44] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[01:44] <mjr> apsync, then you havve 2.12
[01:44] <disciple_> hi, when I run "sudo echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" I get permission denied, anyone know how to set it?  Running this command is a requirement for running mplayer.
[01:45] <apsync> ah, Ok thank you
[01:45] <mjr> apsync, anyway, there should be the "about gnome" menu entry on the top bar
[01:45] <mjr> which also gives you the version
[01:47] <thoreauputic> echo 1024 |sudo tee -a /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq
[01:47] <thoreauputic> disciple_: ^^^
[01:47] <selinium> disciple_,  not being a linux guru i can't tell you the solution but the sudo is only running on the echo and you dont have the priveledges for writing to /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq
[01:47] <selinium> thoreauputic, I am too slow!
[01:48] <thoreauputic> disciple_: or do sudo -i , then run the command
[01:48] <selinium> thoreauputic, sudo -i?
[01:48] <stelki> Is there a way to easily install java support for mozilla firefox?
[01:48] <Nexinarus> hey is there an open source windows program that burns iso's to cd's? Snoblower needs one.
[01:48] <selinium> thoreauputic, I will have to look that up!
[01:48] <thoreauputic> selinium: gives you a root shell
[01:48] <[LethAL] > Nexinarus, Right-click the ISO in nautilus
[01:48] <Nexinarus> no for windows
[01:49] <nalioth> mornnin thoreauputic
[01:49] <[LethAL] > Nexinarus, What are you doing here?
[01:49] <stelki> Nexinarus, why do you ask inhere?
[01:49] <selinium> hi nalioth
[01:49] <disciple_> excellent cheers, bit new to the sudo lark ;)
[01:49] <selinium> nalioth, me again!
[01:49] <thoreauputic> hi nalioth :)
[01:49] <Nexinarus> Snoblower is trying to burn the ubuntu live iso to a cd
[01:49] <Nexinarus> but he doesnt have nero
[01:49] <nalioth> selinium: good day
[01:49] <stelki> Nexinarus, google it, this is not the place to ask tbh
[01:49] <Nexinarus> its for ubuntu linux..
[01:49] <marc`> there are many programs that can burn ISOs
[01:50] <marc`> and you get get a trial version of nero im sure
[01:50] <[LethAL] > cdimage is free, not sure about OSS though
[01:50] <Nexinarus> thnx [LethAL]
[01:50] <[LethAL] > Or CDBurnerXP... think that's free
[01:50] <thoreauputic> disciple_: if you use the sudo -i method to get a root shell, don't forget to exit afterwards :)
[01:51] <Hoxzer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46138 can somebody advice me to aply this patch I really dont understand what should I do to get mplayer work
[01:52] <volvoguy> Nexinarus, I do believe the Nero demo will get the job done too.
[01:52] <MrMaDSeN> what can I do when im missing libqt-mt.so.3 ?
[01:52] <Hoxzer> god damnit with you guys ^^
[01:52] <Hoxzer> cant help poor hoxzer :(
[01:53] <volvoguy> watch the language please.
[01:53] <Hoxzer> :)
[01:54] <nalioth> cursing doesnt help fix things
[01:54] <Gundjah> Hoxzer - try locate mplayer | grep src
[01:54] <Hoxzer> nonthing seems to help me atm
[01:54] <volvoguy> Hoxzer, which part are you trying to do? apply a patch or enable dma? (sorry, i'm only half paying attention)
[01:55] <selinium> anyone got an idea why i cant right click/burn to disc anymore?
[01:55] <Hoxzer> vlvoguy: I just want mplayer to able to play movies
[01:55] <Hoxzer> it gives me a error
[01:55] <volvoguy> Hoxzer, dvd's or files? if files, what type?
[01:55] <Hoxzer> in all types
[01:55] <Hoxzer> .avi
[01:55] <selinium> Hoxzer, if you type the first couple of letter of the nick then press tab it will finish typing it for you.
[01:56] <Hoxzer> .wnv
[01:57] <volvoguy> Hoxzer, you specifically need mplayer? I've found totem/gxine/vlc to all work better than mplayer (although I realize that's personal preference).
[01:57] <selinium> !restricted
[01:57] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:58] <Hoxzer> volvo: it really doesn't matter what player I use as far as it can use subtitle files and can play .mp4 files
[01:58] <selinium> Hoxzer, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats  for codecs
[01:58] <nalioth> selinium: hoary or breezy?
[01:58] <Hoxzer> selinium:  I have read that like 100 times
[01:58] <selinium> Hoxzer, sorry!
[01:58] <selinium> nalioth, hoary
[01:59] <nalioth> selinium: that's a good question
[01:59] <Hoxzer> selinium: it seems like it doesn't solve mp4 format problem
[01:59] <selinium> nalioth, i had to install k3b to do it!
[01:59] <volvoguy> Hoxzer, you've enabled multiverse and installed the w32codecs package?
[01:59] <nalioth> Hoxzer: you'll need libfaad and libfaac and other aac/mp4 libs if you want to compile mplayer with mp4/aac support
[02:00] <volvoguy> yeah. what nalioth said. :)
[02:01] <nalioth> Hoxzer: there is also a gstreamer mp4 plugin
[02:01] <volvoguy> i haven't tried playing any mp4 files in linux yet, but the rest were all solved with the info on the restricted formats page on the wiki.
[02:01] <Hoxzer> volvoguy: I downloaded the dll's from wepage and extracted them to usr/lib/win32
[02:01] <nalioth> volvoguy: c'mon man, dont you have mac hardware?
[02:01] <nalioth> volvoguy: i dont think the w32codecs work on aac/mp4
[02:02] <Hoxzer> Volvo: and I cannot enable multiverse for some reason :(
[02:02] <selinium> nalioth, I take it apart from rating my question, you have no idea what the issue is? :)
[02:02] <Hoxzer> It just changes them back
[02:02] <volvoguy> nalioth, yeah but no wifi and i'm too lazy/cheap to make extra long ethernet cables to stretch across the room. :)
[02:03] <selinium> volvoguy, nothing wrong with that! Quicker, more secure!
[02:03] <volvoguy> Hoxzer, how have you tried doing it? just in synaptic, or have you tried editing the sources file by hand?
[02:03] <Hoxzer> volvo: just in synaptic
[02:03] <nalioth> selinium: no, i dont use nautilus, i'm sorry
[02:04] <Toma-> anyone know how to untar all the files in a directory?
[02:04] <nalioth> Hoxzer: you have to edit the sources.list using sudo
[02:04] <selinium> nalioth, What would be the command line for burning an iso then?
[02:04] <selinium> :)
[02:04] <nalioth> selinium: open a terminal (a terminal is nalioths best friend) and type "man cdrecord"
[02:04] <selinium> nalioth, I all for learning the command line stuff!
[02:05] <Hoxzer> nalioth: I have changed like everything in it
[02:05] <reiki> selinium, you could also use    apt-get install gnomebaker on a commend line :)
[02:05] <Hoxzer> I can get like everything now but not win32codecs
[02:06] <nalioth> Hoxzer: i'm not understanding. you can get what (or not)
[02:06] <Frafra> hi all
[02:06] <selinium> nalioth, Damn, I know that, but when was the last time you looked at the manual for cdrecord... There are so many flags.. Not the easiest thing to grasp!
[02:07] <volvoguy> Hoxzer, if you haven't edited the sources.list file by hand, that's probably what you need to do.
[02:07] <Hoxzer> Nalioth: I cannot change to multiverse in synapic and I cannot install win32codecs via synapic cause it cannot find them
[02:07] <Hoxzer> volvo: I guess I have backups
[02:07] <Frafra> I've a lot of file in a directory and i must convert these in jpg. what i must do?
[02:08] <volvoguy> Hoxzer, how comfortable are you with working on the command line?
[02:08] <nalioth> selinium: click this in your browser  file:///usr/share/doc/
[02:08] <Hoxzer> volvo: a litlebit
[02:08] <nalioth> Hoxzer: w32codecs are no longer available in the repos (to my knowledge)
[02:09] <nalioth> Hoxzer: get them at www.mplayerhq.hu on the downloads page
[02:09] <volvoguy> Hoxzer, nalioth just killed my idea then. hehe.
[02:09] <nalioth> volvoguy: i killed something?
[02:09] <selinium> nalioth, OOOooooh! Thanks, i will stick that in my favs!
[02:10] <nalioth> selinium: did you learn something?
[02:10] <volvoguy> nalioth, i was going to help get multiverse enabled, but if they're not in there.......
[02:10] <nalioth> volvoguy: enable multiverse
[02:10] <reiki> Frafra, google for nconvert
[02:10] <volvoguy> nalioth, no... for Hoxzer.
[02:10] <Frafra> reiki: thx
[02:10] <nalioth> volvoguy: stay clear of backports and extras, but enable uni and multi
[02:10] <nalioth> reiki: nconvert?
[02:10] <selinium> nalioth, :) I was going to use dd but I wasn't too sure about it!
[02:11] <volvoguy> nalioth, right. i know all that. i was helping Hoxzer. :)
[02:11] <nalioth> selinium: try this file:///home/<yourusernamegoeshere>/
[02:11] <reiki> nalioth: he's looking to batch convert image formats... I've seen nconvert or... not sure if using mogrify from ImageMagick would do it
[02:11] <nalioth> imagemagick could handle it
[02:12] <reiki> all commamd line?
[02:12] <Gundjah> Someone dropped me earlier link how to get Ubuntu give me >1024*768, but I lost it... could you please?
[02:12] <nalioth> Hoxzer: enable uni and multi. be wary of backports and extras
[02:12] <nalioth> !tell Gundjah about resolution
[02:13] <Gundjah> nalioth - Tnx :-)
[02:13] <selinium> nalioth: cool, like using the old C:   :D
[02:13] <nalioth> selinium: ;)
[02:14] <sorush20> how do I restart the hotplug system.
[02:15] <reiki> nalioth: wow... I just now found all the command line things that imagemagick can do. I had no idea it did all this
[02:15] <nalioth> reiki: imagemagick is an old warhorse for images
[02:15] <florg> hi, i have a problem: can't ping my gateway when running linux. "ping <gateway>" results in "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted". What does it mean?
[02:15] <nalioth> reiki: lots of gui image programs call upon imagemagick to do their heavy lifting
[02:16] <reiki> nalioth: yes my web sites all use it for all kinds of image manipulation. I just never knew HOW :)
[02:16] <Cicakman> hello.. after i installed beagle, i get the error message about extended attributes.. would it solve if  i change my /etc/fstab line to this: /dev/sda6       /               ext3    defaults,user_xattr,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[02:17] <volvoguy> reiki, if you work with png images, i've been really impressed with "pngcrush" lately. kinda single purpose, but it does it's job well.
[02:17] <x[BrB] x> hi nalioth
[02:17] <nalioth> x[BrB] x: welcome
[02:17] <x[BrB] x> thanks
[02:17] <x[BrB] x> wrhe you from sir?/
[02:18] <worthawholebean> Hi! I'm having problems with serious slowdowns that happen occasionally on my computer. Some people told me to use ctrl, alt and backspace, f1 or f2, but but those drop me into a red screen of death.
[02:18] <Hoxzer> nalioth?
[02:18] <NiLz> any1 using dcgui?
[02:18] <nalioth> Hoxzer: yes?
[02:18] <x[BrB] x> brb nalioth i still have to drive
[02:19] <x[BrB] x> hope i can catch you when i get back... i'll stay online
[02:19] <worthawholebean> Can someone help me?
[02:19] <Hoxzer> Nalioth: where should I extrac those dll's files?
[02:19] <reiki> wow... driving and on the internet at the same time.. that's way too connected for me. I always wait till my horse is hungry and we've stopped for a while. :)
[02:20] <volvoguy> worthawholebean, what kind of slowdowns are you experiencing?
[02:20] <nalioth> Hoxzer: into your /usr/local/lib/codecs (it the codecs directory isnt there, make it so)
[02:20] <worthawholebean> The screen only changes every 3 seconds or so.
[02:20] <volvoguy> worthawholebean, what kind of video card do you have?
[02:21] <Hoxzer> nalioth: I extracted them there but I still have same problem
[02:21] <worthawholebean> I'm on ppc by the way
[02:21] <askMEforUBIFONE> reiki: GPS navigation from a Treo / car cradle is awesome, let me tell you!
[02:21] <Cicakman> has anyone ever installed beagle on their system?
[02:21] <volvoguy> worthawholebean, excellent. nalioth will be sure to have some answers for you too. :)
[02:21] <nalioth> Hoxzer: did they install into the directory or into a folder in the directory?
[02:22] <worthawholebean> GeForce MX 400
[02:22] <worthawholebean> apparently
[02:22] <reiki> askMEforUBIFONE, I'm 53!   First I had trouble with xlibmesa-gl (returned an error code). Now somehow it installed, but I can't get my dual-head setup working correctly. And if I start gnome/emelfm2, my system hangs (need to do a hardware reboot).
[02:23] <worthawholebean> flat panel
[02:24] <inthenow> hi
[02:24] <inthenow> breezy is good
[02:24] <inthenow> how do we expand breezy so our stock rise!
[02:25] <worthawholebean> ???
[02:25] <Krneki> hay anyone here know how could i set right unicode for slovenian chrachters - i have problem with froum because doesn't change some into
[02:25] <nalioth> worthawholebean: what video drive you using?
[02:25] <worthawholebean> I honestly don't know.
[02:25] <worthawholebean> Where can I find out?
[02:25] <nalioth> worthawholebean: know how to use a pastebin?
[02:26] <worthawholebean> nope, sorry
[02:26] <kuru> so I've upgraded to breezy with dist-upgrade
[02:26] <kuru> what a beautiful day
[02:26] <kuru> now it won't load the network drivers properly so I can't ssh to it
[02:26] <kuru> it locks up my keyboard
[02:26] <reiki> nalioth: can he cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep "Driver" ?
[02:26] <kuru> and X owon't start
[02:26] <reiki> if I got that right
[02:27] <kuru> now burning a knoppix cd to disable gdm
[02:27] <Nexinarus> when i install certain icon themes, they change all of the icons to a grey paper icon. why is this?
[02:27] <kuru> is this a known problem?
[02:27] <MrMaDSeN> any stats about how many downloads ubuntu has ?
[02:27] <kuru> breezy just breaks X completely?
[02:27] <Nexinarus> they usually have SVG in the name
[02:27] <nalioth> !tell worthawholebean about paste
[02:27] <gerarcone> hello, it's difficult to install KDE on breezy distribution? what packages should i download by synaptic?
[02:27] <inthenow> maybe its not so god to have a spambot gate...too hard for people to get in here
[02:27] <nalioth> reiki: he could, but i'd rather he pasted it
[02:28] <inthenow> we need the people in here
[02:28] <deFrysk> gerarcone, sudo apt-get instal kubuntu-desktop
[02:28] <nalioth> gerarcone: just install "kubuntu-desktop"
[02:28] <deFrysk> install*
[02:29] <inthenow> cant freenode doing something about spambots?
[02:29] <kuru> any ideas?
[02:29] <Toma-> h
[02:29] <fek> inthenow: they are on their wy
[02:29] <Krneki> anyone here know bots psotnic
[02:29] <inthenow> a spambot "mote" isnt helpful
[02:29] <deFrysk> kuru, not on my box
[02:29] <fek> inthenow: you could prefent against it by using nickserv
[02:29] <kuru> lsuactiafner, so i've done the dist-upgrade, but no dice
[02:29] <kuru> deFrysk, odd.
[02:30] <Hoxzer> Nalioth: dll files are in the codecs directory without the folder in the archiver
[02:30] <worthawholebean> OK. I got the pastebot open
[02:30] <gerarcone> nalioth & deFrysk: thank you! after the installation, can i choose wich interface to use?
[02:30] <nalioth> inthenow: they are
[02:30] <worthawholebean> Where can I find the driver information?
[02:30] <deFrysk> gerarcone, yes
[02:30] <inthenow> fek: no everyone uses nickserv or likes it or understands it right away
[02:30] <nalioth> worthawholebean: open your xorg.conf in a text editor, copy an paste it into a pastebin
[02:31] <nalioth> worthawholebean: come back and show us the URL of the pastebin
[02:31] <fek> inthenow: then tell me how you would fix the problem!
[02:31] <Da_SWAT> if I do a 'dist-upgrade' would this mean that I install breezy?
[02:31] <Nexinarus> is 424 people not enough :p ?
[02:31] <fek> inthenow: i have no problem anymore until i am using nickserv like the opers configured it
[02:31] <satafterh> hello
[02:31] <nalioth> Da_SWAT: if you've switched your sources.list to breezy repos
[02:32] <inthenow> no idea how to kill spambot threats
[02:32] <fek> inthenow: and i think they do their job really god
[02:32] <deFrysk> Da_SWAT, read the upgradenotes , see /topic
[02:32] <fek> inthenow: using nickserv is the only way
[02:32] <satafterh> can someone tell me repository to get w32codecs?// thanks
[02:32] <inthenow> arent msgs repeated?
[02:32] <fek> of course
[02:32] <fek> but when you want to filter thinks like that, you have to filter content
[02:33] <worthawholebean> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2294
[02:33] <fek> and that's not a thing that an oper should do!
[02:33] <deFrysk> !tell satafterh about w32codecs
[02:33] <nalioth> satafterh: go to www.mplayerhq.hu and look on the download page
[02:33] <worthawholebean> there it is
[02:33] <gerarcone> deFrysk: how can i do?
[02:33] <satafterh> ok will try
[02:33] <fek> inthenow: an correct oper will never touch the content of the users
[02:33] <inthenow> dont spambots repeat the same thing? maybe the server or multiple bots can detect repeats and notify the freenode
[02:34] <fek> inthenow: you have to scan the content wich users will tell over the ircnet and that is not a nice way
[02:34] <nalioth> reiki: you look at that pastebin?
[02:34] <worthawholebean> They'll be changed instantly to fix the issue. The spambots, I mean.
[02:34] <deFrysk> gerarcone, you could istall kdm if you prefer kde , during install it wil as you if you wish to use kdm or gdm
[02:35] <Nexinarus> ok now im pissed off.. gDesklets worked for a bit until i installed a few items, now it hangs on 100% cpu usage and does nothing, even after I "completely remove" the package
[02:35] <satafterh> do not see w32codecs there
[02:35] <fek> bye
[02:35] <deFrysk> satafterh, read what uboti send you
[02:35] <deFrysk> ubotu*
[02:36] <test34> satafterh, add the hoary-extras repository
[02:36] <gerarcone> deFrysk: after installing it and choosing kde as default, can i change my mind?
[02:37] <satafterh> ok what is the full path or where can i get it
[02:37] <worthawholebean> ok, i g2g
[02:37] <deFrysk> gerarcone, yes you can (should imho ;p)
[02:37] <test34> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe
[02:37] <nalioth> satafterh: you're looking for "the essential pack" of codecs
[02:37] <test34> multiverse restricted
[02:37] <test34> then w32codecs will be available through synaptic
[02:37] <gerarcone> deFrysk: ok, so i'm going to install kubuntu-desktop from synaptic, yes?
[02:38] <deFrysk> gerarcone, yup ;)
[02:38] <gerarcone> deFrysk: :p
[02:38] <gerarcone> deFrysk: what's kdm?
[02:38] <deFrysk> gerarcone, also gdm does kde btw so installing kdm is optional
[02:38] <worthawholebean> How do I get ctrl-click, for example tto be maped to right-click with a one-button mouse?
[02:39] <deFrysk> kdm is kde login manager gdm is gnome loginmanager
[02:39] <satafterh> thanks, can you past the path i need to put in the source list to get w32codec
[02:40] <gerarcone> deFrysk: uhm... i don't have the package kubuntu-desktop
[02:40] <Nexinarus> get it then?
[02:40] <Belutz> in aptitude, how do i search package that has 'c' mark?
[02:40] <gerarcone> deFrysk: maybe it's because i'm running breezy
[02:40] <volvoguy> worthawholebean, that's a good question. i had to finally plug in a mouse.
[02:40] <deFrysk> gerarcone, how is that possible ?
[02:41] <Nexinarus> arr Synaptic is such a lier.. it never "completely removes" a package
[02:41] <Nexinarus> i still see many config files
[02:41] <Belutz> Nexinarus: that's why i'm using aptitude now
[02:41] <worthawholebean> I was just going through xorg.conf and found an option, ""Emulate3Buttons" that was set to true
[02:41] <gerarcone> deFrysk: i don't know, what i know is that i can't find kubuntu-desktop in synaptic
[02:42] <deFrysk> gerarcone, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:42] <elvirolo> does anyone know when/if the dri problem will be fixed ?
[02:42] <deFrysk> gerarcone, do that in your console and turn off synaptic
[02:42] <Snoblower> how do i get back to windows? :(
[02:43] <kurumin> hi all
[02:43] <Supercowz> hi all
[02:43] <Supercowz> :p
[02:43] <inthenow> if your stealing windows your supporting it also
[02:43] <gerarcone> deFrysk: ok, it seems running
[02:43] <deFrysk> afk
[02:43] <Supercowz> finally i got my ubuntu run on my adm64 !!! coool at end !! :)
[02:43] <inthenow> how big is the ubuntu distro a hard drive?
[02:43] <inthenow> breezy
[02:43] <kurumin> is it possible to use chroot to access a ubuntu 64 partition?
[02:43] <Nexinarus> Snoblower: system -> log out -> restart. make sure you take the CD also
[02:44] <inthenow> fresh off the cd
[02:44] <gerarcone> deFrysk: when i'm using kde, how can i switch to gnome?
[02:44] <stelki> incubii, im using around 2.5gb, alot installed
[02:44] <Snoblower> oh ok, thanks
[02:44] <stelki> incubii, sorry, wrong nick
[02:44] <volvoguy> Snoblower, did Ubuntu not set up grub properly? you should have an option for windows when you reboot.
[02:44] <stelki> inthenow, using about 2.5gb
[02:44] <stelki> inthenow, and I've installed alot of stuff
[02:44] <Snoblower> volvoguy, i just don't know wtf i'm doing
[02:44] <volvoguy> Snoblower, that's ok. that's what we're here for. :)
[02:45] <Snoblower> lol
[02:45] <Nexinarus> volvoguy: he's running the ubuntu live disc
[02:45] <kurumin> I get this error: chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error]
[02:45] <deFrysk> gerarcone, you can choose session with loginmanager
[02:45] <volvoguy> Nexinarus, oh. even easier. :)
[02:45] <Snoblower> so i'm not actually running ubuntu, right? this is just the live CD?
[02:45] <volvoguy> Snoblower, correct.
[02:46] <gerarcone> deFrysk: can you give me an example?
[02:46] <Snoblower> sweet, finally figured something out on my own =D
[02:46] <volvoguy> Snoblower, when you reboot and remove the cd, your computer will not have been touched.
[02:46] <Snoblower> alright
[02:46] <deFrysk> gerarcone, when u log in with passwd u can also choose session
[02:46] <Snoblower> volvoguy, how do i install ubuntu onto my computer?
[02:47] <gerarcone> deFrysk: also using gdm?
[02:47] <gerarcone> deFrysk: sorry to make a lot of questions but i'm new to linux
[02:47] <volvoguy> Snoblower, you need the install disk. it's pretty simple to walk through the steps, especially if you have some free space set aside.
[02:47] <Krneki> am is there possible to input windows-1250 coding on ubuntu
[02:47] <deFrysk> gerarcone, better stick to gnome first and get used to linux
[02:48] <stelki> gerarcone, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[02:48] <Ankka> why gnome?
[02:48] <volvoguy> Snoblower, if you DON'T have free space, you might want to tell us how you're set up so we can suggest the best way to set up your hard drive(s).
[02:48] <stelki> 'cause gnome is coool
[02:48] <kuru> guys.. someone please help me with this X window system problem..
[02:48] <Ankka> I mean, what makes gnome better than KDE?
[02:48] <kuru> I'm completely stuck here
[02:48] <stelki> Ankka, nothing, its a matter of taste
[02:48] <kuru> I've just upgraded to breezy and i still can't get X to run
[02:48] <cef> so, why can't I lock my screen anymore?
[02:48] <kuru> and I get the same error
[02:48] <Ankka> oh, ok
[02:49] <Grant_> I have a problem with google on ubuntu, everytime i go to http://www.google.co.uk or .com i get this message "We're Sorry... but we can't process your request right now. A computer virus or spyware application is sending us automated requests, and it appears that your computer or network has been infected." i have allways thought that linux does not have spyware or virus's so why am i getting this ? do i have a virus :|
[02:49] <kuru> error:  could not open default font 'fixed';
[02:49] <carbo> err, hello there. is there any chance i can get my laptop's widescreen working?
[02:49] <deFrysk> Ankka, he is running gnome now so better not to start to try alkindsa confusing stuff for now
[02:49] <gerarcone> deFrysk: if a choose gdm as default display manager, then i can start x with kde on login screen?
[02:49] <deFrysk> gerarcone, yes
[02:50] <Snoblower> volvoguy, i THINK i have free space, how much space do i need?