[06:40] <wildbat> Mathuin, idk may be you pastbin the grub.cfg and you UUID info ?
[06:40] <elzoog> Hey guys, I just upgraded to 10.04.   I am wondering why the close, minimize, maximize buttons are to the left instead of the right?
[06:40] <abhijain> geekphreak: sudo kill is not working
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[06:40] <nog> DaveSiberia: if you know how to work in the cli, if you can get the computer to a cli you can fix anything
[06:40] <Mathuin> !controls > elzoog
[06:40] <Olson> elzoog, I can help you with that
[06:40] <Jacen> I had to reinstall 10.04 a billion times for it to finally work
[06:40] <greezmunkey> tripelb: you may as well get through the pain now, if you have a bit of time. I upgraded this one without any major issues, not to menting the old laptop install - all good.
[06:40] <Jacen> haha
[06:40] <tripelb> aetaric, good to hear that. I've got an old PC .. amd
[06:40] <thak> brous-kee What does the manual mount command look like? Would that help?
[06:40] <tripelb> greezmunkey, thanks.
[06:40] <aetaric> i'm sorry.
[06:40] <dhbiker> how can i install flash player on amd63 ubuntu 10.4 ???
[06:40] <Mathuin> wildbat: if this trip through rescue doesn't fix it, I'll try that.
[06:40] <dhbiker> 64*
[06:40] <geekphreak> abhijain: sudo kill PID , read man pages
[06:40] <Olson> elzoog, hit alt + f2 to get the run box and type gconf-editor
[06:40] <taroven> DaveSiberia: Been running Linux and Windows alongside for years. After losing data and an annoying number of hard-to-find programs/scripts, I took to the habit of portable installs and keeping EVERYTHING on the second drive and backed up. =P
[06:41] <IdleOne> tripelb: iirc it does have flashblock or something similar as addon
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> Tripleb: use a light de like lxde or fluxbox for lightness
[06:41] <wildbat> speaker icon is missing in tray, how do it restore it?
[06:41] <brous-kee> thak  man mount  please  and i believe it has a sample command there n the man pages
[06:41] <bcgrown> i have a fast desktop and a slow laptop that I want to use as an X Terminal.  I know I can do X11 forwarding for single apps,  but is there a way to forward an entire Gnome desktop?
[06:41] <thak> brous-kee sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 doesn't work, but could I do something similar to recognize the disk?
[06:41] <DaveSiberia> taroven: looks like I need a second partition
[06:42] <elzoog> Olson: after the config editor then what?
[06:42] <aetaric> bcgrown: i think you can if you open gdm?
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> Dhbiker: install flashplugin-nonfree for 32bit+64bit wrapper or download the 64bit linux plugin and put the .so in you browsers plugin folder
[06:42] <sp0spo> Are all the block sizes in NTFS a size of 4096 kb?
[06:42] <Jacen> dhbiker, try using Ubuntu Software Center to search for Adobe Flash
[06:42] <taroven> DaveSiberia: In the absence of a second hard drive, ALWAYS keep a data partition.
[06:42] <sp0spo> bytes i mean
[06:42] <dl> ubuntu 10.04 LTS  installed in  vmware player 3.01 won't let me login
[06:42] <aetaric> sp0spo: by default yes.
[06:42] <bcgrown> aetaric: gdm on which pc?
[06:42] <brous-kee> thak-> off hand i cant remember, but that looks okay of a command
[06:42] <cyphase> why is sun-java not in the repos anymore?
[06:42] <Olson> elzoog, hit alt + f2 to get the run box and type gconf-editor. find apps -> metacity -> general and then button layout. Change it to menu:minimize,maximize,close
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> Thak: run: cat /etc/fstab ,the optical drive will be named. Might work: sudo mount -a
[06:43] <cyphase> i know there's icedtea, but it's being buggy
[06:43] <taroven> DaveSiberia: I keep just about nothing on my Windows partition, even less on Linux, and everything else on the second drive.
[06:43] <mcsenna>  Ubuntu doesnt recognize my inbuilt notebook webcam, any ideas guys?
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> !java | cyphase
[06:43] <thak> ActionParsnip Would it be /dev/scd0 or /media/cdrom0?
[06:43] <aetaric> bcgrown: ummm instead of running an app like you are try running the program gdm over the X11 forward
[06:43] <Fireking300> mcsenna, first you got to tell us make and model.
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> Mcsenna: run: lsusb ,websearch for the 8 character hex id fore the camera
[06:44] <cyphase> ah, partner.. thanks ActionParsnip
[06:44] <elzoog> Thanks Olson
[06:44] <realubot> What keyboard shortcut will open the conversation applet in the panel? I know that Windows key + S opens the seession applet, but what kombination opens the chat/twitter applet?
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> Thak: mount -a attempts to mount everything in fstab
[06:44] <mcsenna> fireking300 its an acer orbicam does that help?
[06:44] <cyphase> and speaking of java.. why is the plugin finder in firefox not working?
[06:44] <Olson> elzoog, no probs :)
[06:44] <nog> DaveSiberia: when it comes to data preservation, i actually run 2 seperate hdd's one holds my /home directory, the other is the actual system.. so i can wipe and reload the system without losing data
[06:44] <elzoog> Olson:  Why did they put them on the left side to begin with?
[06:44] <bcgrown> aetaric: i'm guessing i want to be out of X and at a regular command line before i try that?
[06:45] <Fireking300> mcsenna, if you can find model of the obricam that would help
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> Cyphas: log a bug. You can symlink the .so file to your browsers plugin folder and it will work
[06:45] <dhbiker> ty ActionParsnip and Jacen
[06:45] <dl> ubuntu 10.04 LTS installed in vmware player 3.01 won't let me login   ,  Always prompt authentication failed
[06:45] <greezmunkey> nog: hear hear
[06:45] <Jacen> No problem dhbike
[06:45] <Hutch[S]> brous-kee: whats the default mount location for a usb hard drive?
[06:45] <cyphase> ActionParsnip, the plugins work, it's the plugin finder that's not working
[06:45] <mcsenna> Fireking300: Sorry mate hats well above me, any other ideas
[06:45] <kblin> morning folks
[06:45] <DaveSiberia> nog: I went into the update manager, some packets are corrupt, the packet manager won't let me update them
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> Dl: boot to root recovery mode (hold shift at boot) then run: passwd yourusername
[06:46] <taroven> Hutch[S]: Take a look in /media/
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> Cyphase: is that some firefox thing?
[06:46] <Hutch[S]> taroven: just see floppy and floppy0
[06:46] <Fireking300> mcsenna, thats the only way I can see the webcam model. so i got no ideas
[06:46] <tripelb> IdleOne, I can check about chrome and flashblock (the neat thing is you can activate any flash when you want to. (what's iirc?)
[06:46] <elzoog> So, why did they put the buttons on the left to begin with?
[06:46] <taroven> Hutch[S]: Hm. Is it not auto-mounting when you plug it in?
[06:46] <Olson> elzoog, I believe they liked the way the mac looks
[06:46] <thak> ActionParsnip That didn't mount even a regular CD... I think it might mount something once if I restart, but do you know what might stop things from working?
[06:46] <cyphase> ActionParsnip, yea. it's always worked for me, but it's not in lucid
[06:46] <elnur> wildbat, reinstalling grub didn't help
[06:46] <bilet> tripelb: if i recall correctly
[06:46] <IdleOne> tripelb: iirc == if I recall correctly
[06:47] <Hutch[S]> taroven: naw, i did a minimal CLI install, i need usb drivers?
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Dl: you can then set your password. You may have to boot back and make sure you own all of your home folder
[06:47] <brous-kee> Hutch[S]-> there is none really, you can modify the udev rules for those .. look under /etc/udev/rules.d
[06:47] <Kawiii> Hi everyone - I was hoping you all could help me.  I'm actually running off the Lucid 10.04 Live CD right now because I can't get into the actual operating system.  I had just finished putting all my files back in their folders, updating all my programs, and then all of the sudden it froze, and I got stuck at a blank screen.  Now, everytime I boot into 10.04, I get a blank screen either...
[06:47] <Kawiii> ...immediately or within 10-15, EVEN in Failsafe GNOME.  Any ideas?
[06:47] <Olson> elzoog, also.. it actually makes some sense if you have the show desktop on the left, to also have the window controls on the left as well
[06:47] <taroven> Hutch[S], prolly.
[06:47] <kblin> is there some good way to _de_install the kde4 desktop environment again? I've had a look at it and decided kde4 is still too broken to work with
[06:47] <aetaric> bcgrown: well i would do it that way....
[06:47] <elzoog> Also, why is that that when I boot, the message "Starting..." sits there for some time?   It seems like the computer is hanging at that point
[06:47] <Hutch[S]> taroven: apt-get install usb ?
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Thak: check the output of: dmesg ,for hints
[06:47] <nog> DaveSiberia: whats the exact errors you are getting?
[06:47] <wildbat> elnur, grub 2or 1?
[06:47] <mcsenna> Fireking300: Ok understand, but all I know is is inbuilt into the screen top and is an acer aspire368
[06:47] <DaveSiberia> nog: I get could not update system first correct errors in packets
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Cyphase: I haven't used firefox in ages dude. All I can say is log a bug
[06:47] <Olson> elzoog, but I just guess. it's the first thing I changed back as well
[06:47] <elnur> wildbat, 2
[06:48] <DaveSiberia> nog: I get: could not update system first correct errors in packets
[06:48] <faploid> brous-kee: a BIOS upgrade fixed the network issues, fyi.  not sure why the old bios worked fine under Karmic and not under Lucid, though.
[06:48] <bcgrown> aetaric: ok i'll have to try this!
[06:48] <cyphase> ActionParsnip, yea, i was just saying :)
[06:48] <nog> DaveSiberia: ok, hold on.. checking something
[06:48] <wildbat> elnur, try 1 then
[06:48] <taroven> Hutch[S]: No idea honestly.
[06:48] <Hutch[S]> brous-kee: ah ok, i did a minimal CLI install with just sudo apt-get install xorg xterm gdm icewm menu firefox gksu synaptic --no-install-recommends. i need to get usb drivers? if so, how?
[06:48] <geekphreak> arvind_khadri: howdy sir
[06:48] <taroven> Hutch[S]: You likely have some digging to do.
[06:48] <Kawiii> I'm going to assume that my issue is too generic to address, eh? :P
[06:48] <tripelb> IdleOne, I found it, clickflash This extension removes flash elements and replaces them with a clickable element
[06:49] <arvind_khadri> geekphreak, m fine, how are you :)
[06:49] <elnur> wildbat, i'll try it as a last resort. thank you. for now gonna try a solution from this topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1466337
[06:49] <DaveSiberia> nog: I am in synaptic manager with the filter for packets with mistakes
[06:49] <geekphreak> arvind_khadri: all's well ;)
[06:49] <tripelb> corrrection: IdleOne, I found it, kill-flash This extension removes flash elements and replaces them with a clickable element
[06:49] <IdleOne> tripelb: on your way to freedom from FF
[06:50] <tripelb> IdleOne, and how it does not free up memory. IMHO
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Kawiii: use live cd to reinstall grub2. You can also chroot to the installed system to see what state the packages are in
[06:50] <Hutch[S]> brous-kee: no response on lsmid | grep ftdi_sio or sudo modprobe ftdi_sio
[06:50] <Fireking300> mcsenna, I looked but i couldnt find any solutions
[06:50] <elzoog> It seems that linux is sort of going the way of windows in the sense of adding features that you don't really want
[06:50] <taroven> tripelb: I don't believe memory usage is a decent reason to switch off from firefox unless you're running on an extremely low-end system.
[06:51] <Kawiii> ActionParsnip: Can you explain how I'd reinstall Grub from the Live CD, by chance?
[06:51] <mcsenna> Fireking300: Ok thanks anyway for trying
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> Elzoog: ubuntu is, many others dont
[06:51] <Olson> elzoog, it was ubuntu's choice to arrange it like that to be fair
[06:51] <tripelb> IdleOne, I'd like to use a newsgroup reader. Prolly in a shell. I used to use them but I forgot the name of one. trs ? and one other.
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | kawiii
[06:51] <faploid> oh great now aptitude search for anything gives 0 results
[06:51] <brous-kee> Hutch[S]-> umm i did not give you those commands, what are you seeking?
[06:51] <Hutch[S]> brous-kee: to see if usb drivers are installled and working
[06:51] <elzoog> Olson:  How is moving the buttons to the left fair?
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> Faploid: run: sudo apt-get update
[06:51] <tripelb> taroven my computer freezes and I do believe it is linked to using flash, prolly in firefox. I'm going to test it by using only chrome.
[06:51] <nog> DaveSiberia: any luck that way?
[06:52] <Mathuin> wildbat: I think I know the problem.  For whatever reason, the raid array isn't being recognized as a raid array.  I have to restart it each and every time with mdadm.  I'm truly in hell.
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> Elzoog: mac do it, so why not
[06:52] <EvaZq> progress
[06:52] <IdleOne> tripelb: apt-cache search newsreader might give some results
[06:52] <taroven> tripelb: Ah.
[06:52] <Kawiii> ActionParsnip: I'm looking at the "Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD" section of the article, yes?
[06:52] <Olson> elzoog, It's not for me to say if it's fair or not. What is fair is that Ubuntu chose to release the gnome desktop with buttons on the left. It's up to them.
[06:52] <brous-kee> Hutch[S]-> dmesg should show if its loaded i think
[06:52] <tripelb> IdleOne, oh cool. I didnt know that command.
[06:53] <DaveSiberia> nog: no. Looking at the properties it seems none of the damaged packets are essential
[06:53] <elzoog> Olson:  Sort of like it's up to Windows if they want to make a bloated and slow operating system like Vista right?
[06:53] <brous-kee> Hutch[S]-> or it will indicate that it is loaded and functioning
[06:53] <Olson> elzoog, though, as you can see it's easily fixed, as most things are
[06:53] <tripelb> IdleOne, tin is what I used to like
[06:53] <DaveSiberia> nog: is there a way to remove them, them reinstall?
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> Kawiii: makes sense doesn't it :)
[06:53] <Olson> elzoog, yeah. Like that.
[06:54] <Kawiii> ActionParsnip: Shhh - I'm bad with command lines and stuff.  I just wanna make sure I'm copy and pasting from the right place.  :)
[06:54] <elzoog> Olson:  Yeah, easily fixed.   I don't know about you though, but I like actually using my computer, not fixing bugs on my computer.
[06:54] <LucidFox> My problem with USB flash drives has reappeared after some days after reinstalling Lucid
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> Elzoog: it can all be fixed as linux is very maleable
[06:54] <taroven> elzoog: It's insanely easy to switch the buttons back to the right side if you dislike them that way. Personally I was doing just fine with them that way until I got around to installing my usual emerald theme, at which point I found that I really didn't mind either way.
[06:54] <the_e> I need real help. I rm'd etc/samba and reinstalling it (even as root) will not re-install the folder!
[06:54] <LucidFox> I insert a USB flash drive and nothing happens, not even the creation of /dev/sd*
[06:54] <evol_> hello there, I've just installed lucid lynx - upgraded from karmic koala, and i have a problem. when booting the computer grub doesnt seem to work. it says error: the symbol grub_puts not found
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> Kawiii: if you read and it makes sense then it is quite possibly right
[06:54] <Olson> elzoog, I think it wasn't a bug, more a feature you didn't like :P
[06:55] <evol_> Anyone could help me fix this problem? I also have windows installed on this box but i never use it anyway, so i dont even mind if i lose that entry on the grub menu
[06:55] <Olson> elzoog, and if you'd like to compile and build your own linux O/S...
[06:55] <nog> DaveSiberia: yes, in synaptic you should be able to find the packages that it lists and choose reinstall... or in the cli (my preferred way) apt-get --reinstall <packagename>
[06:55] <elzoog> Being easy to fix is not the point.   There was no good reason for me to have to fix it in the first place.   At the very least, it should have asked me if I wanted the buttons that way
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> Elzoog: ubuntu always comes with firefox which I hate but I can remove that. Just like the buttons in metacity
[06:55] <Barridus> anyone a kde pro?  (i know #kubuntu exists, but not getting an answer there).  is there a launcher menu editor anywhere that might work in the netbook KDE?
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> Barridus: kmenuedit
[06:56] <Hutch[S]> brous-kee: dmesg seems to have found the usb hard drive. just wondering where it is mounted, so i can access the files
[06:56] <taroven> evol_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/509797
[06:56] <Olson> elzoog, things change sometimes.
[06:56] <DaveSiberia> nog: I'll try that
[06:56] <elzoog> Action:  I don't mind firefox (even though it is a resource hog) because I don't have to spend a lot of time getting it to work.
[06:56] <grendal_prime> hey guys i got an issue here.
[06:56] <Kawiii> ActionParsnip:  May I ask why the Grub loader would be the issue?  I'm able to reach the login screen, it's just when I type the login in, I get the blank screen.
[06:56] <Hutch[S]> brous-kee: says device found at 3
[06:56] <brous-kee> Hutch[S]-> mount     command will tell you if it i smounted
[06:56] <evol_> taroven, i will try this now but i have already tried several fixes that i found online and none seems to be working.
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> Kawiii: bad postinst process maybe. Not sure
[06:57] <grendal_prime> I have a dell inspiron mini with 804 running on it. this is the pre net book remix versioin of the dell mini.
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Kawiii: never had the isuue
[06:57] <elzoog> Olson:  Just so I know, what were some more things that you had to fix when you upgraded?
[06:57] <ggervais> I have a question: I installed Ubuntu 10.04 on my laptop and desktop. I have the "Me Menu" on my laptop, but I don't have it on my desktop (probably due to old settings in my home directory). How can I enable it? Thanks!
[06:57] <grendal_prime> i want to upgrade it to 10.04 but i am not getting the upgrade distro option.
[06:57] <taroven> evol_: I was mainly referring to the second post in there by Felix, who explains the error.
[06:57] <Barridus> ActionParsnip, thank you!  i knew i remembered your name from my last KDE attempts XD
[06:57] <Hutch[S]> brous-kee: doesnt seem to be mounted
[06:57] <faploid> ActionParsnip++ thanks
[06:57] <evol_> taroven, yeah i just noticed it. let me see.
[06:58] <grendal_prime> now the repos for apt all point to some specific dell repositorys. what do i have to do to upgrade this to 10.04?
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> Barridus: total guess dude. I guess kde honour the menu like gnome does with their NBR
[06:58] <brous-kee> Hutch[S]-> then it is not,
[06:58] <the_e> no help?
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> Faploid: huh?
[06:58]  * LucidFox waits for attention
[06:58] <Olson> elzoog, I erm.. "fixed" it by switching to debian .. but.. I probably shouldn't mention that here.  The main problem was with audio and the pulseaudio subsystem - but that may not affect you at all.
[06:58] <mcsenna> What advantages in upgrading to10.04 anyone got an opinion?
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> Ggervais: right click panel-> add item
[06:58] <Hutch[S]> brous-kee: how do i mount then? fdisk -l doesnt show it either
[06:59] <Hutch[S]> brous-kee: ah nvm, /dev/sdb
[06:59] <grendal_prime> mcsenna: one bad thing...ati drivers are broke(last i heard)
[06:59] <brous-kee> Hutch[S]-> can you give me the background story, i dont think i recall what you said earlier
[06:59] <Kawiii> ActionParsnip:  Assuming that it's not a GRUB issue (I'm in the middle of updating it anyway), do you have any other suggestions?
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> Mcsenna: later kernel supports new hardware for one. I'd search for: lucid lynx what's new
[06:59] <elzoog> Olson:  Looks like audio works.  Was able to open an mp3 file.   Question is, will firefox hog the audio output like it usually does
[07:00] <incd> Hello, I'm trying to install 10.04, after selecting "Install Ubuntu" in grub loader, I get BusyBox prompt saying: (initramfs): mount mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: Invalid argument
[07:00] <grendal_prime> ive seen 10.04 on this machine it works great..i just cant figure out why i cant upgrade to it
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> Kawiii: you could remove the newest kernel from the system if you have multiple kernels
[07:00] <taroven> evol_: Looking again at that post, looks like exactly what you're looking for. Just follow the guide linked and you should be in business.
[07:00] <mcsenna> Thanks guys
[07:00] <geekphreak> incd:  did you a test md5sum on the iso?
[07:00] <sp0spo> you can check ntfs in linux using ntfsresize and -fi /dev/device right?
[07:00] <evol_> taroven, already on it
[07:00] <Olson> elzoog, your experience may be different to mine. My computer is very old. Firefox hogs more stuff dependant on the plugins you have
[07:00] <Barridus> how meta, i had to create a shortcut to kmenuedit via kmenuedit
[07:00] <geekphreak> sp0spo:  for errors?
[07:01] <taroven> evol_: Great, lemme know how it goes.
[07:01] <elzoog> The only other thing I have noticed so far that I don't like, is it says "starting..." when I boot and then hangs there for a minute.  I can't tell whether it is really starting, or whether it is hanging.
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> Grendel_prime: what is the output of: lsb_release -c
[07:01] <DaveSiberia> nog: I found an option in synaptic manager to do a repeat install
[07:01] <dl> I can't type password use keyboard in ubuntu log in screen  in wmware player
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | grendel_prime
[07:01] <sp0spo> geeek, filesystem errors, yes
[07:01] <Kawiii> ActionParsnip: I don't recall having installed a new kernel - I downloaded the latest 10.04 off the website yesterday, burned it, and installed it today.  I do recall installing two updates before the blank screen errors occured though.  Maybe those could be the issues?
[07:01] <sp0spo> any of you use badblocks to check for bad sectors in linux  ... even on ntfs systems?
[07:01] <the_e> I wouldn't recommend upgrading, I'd recommend a fresh install
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> Dl: i'd ask in #vmware sounds like the keyboard settings are bad
[07:01] <geekphreak> sp0spo: i would recommened using windows tool for ntfs :d
[07:01] <the_e> it runs so much faster
[07:01] <Olson> elzoog, yeah, that's ubuntu trying to make it less "flashy" and smooth when boooting up. I fyou want to see the kernel messages you can press escape
[07:02] <nog> DaveSiberia: cool.. i still suggest learning the cli
[07:02] <elzoog> Also, it doesn't seem like Ubuntu has upgraded Openoffice.   Not that it's much of a problem.
[07:02] <lucas-arg> im having this problem every time i want to install software with synaptic... http://paste.ubuntu.com/425697/
[07:02] <the_e> but how do I get back a filesystem folder I deleted (rm'd deleted!)
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> Kawiii: use: dpkg -l | grep linux-image ,to see if you have multiple kernels
[07:02] <LucidFox> When I plug a USB flash drive, the only udevadm output I get is http://paste.ubuntu.com/425698/
[07:02] <LucidFox> before, it used to be veeeery long
[07:02] <lixing> hello
[07:02] <dl> keyboard settings are bad ,what ever  I typed it is blank
[07:02] <LucidFox> and it used to see the drive
[07:02] <LucidFox> as early as tomorrow
[07:02] <ggervais> thanks, it worked!
[07:02] <elzoog> Olson:  I would rather see a progress bar, or something telling me that it's doing something rather than hanging.
[07:02] <ggervais> it was "Indicator Panel" or something like that
[07:03] <Olson> elzoog, you can upgrade Oo.org manually or you have to wait for members to build and test it for the latest ubuntu build then get accepted in to the repositories.
[07:03] <Hutch[S]> brous-kee: alrite, i have a dell c400 with an old intel graphics driver and it looks all wonky in 10.04. can i install an old version or something?
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> Elzoog: its on 3.2 which is the latest. There's the sribblers ppa (I think its named that) but I don't think you will get any love for a while
[07:03] <greezmunkey> the_e, here are options, but they are not pretty, google ubuntu data recovery, and you'll see what I mean.
[07:03] <Olson> elzoog, but yah.. i know what you mean about the boot
[07:03] <kungfuman> any hacker here?
[07:03] <Kawiii> ActionParsnip:  2.6.32-21-generic (2.6.32-21.32)  and generic (<IP_ADDRESS>.22
[07:03] <Kawiii> )
[07:03] <greezmunkey> the_e: there
[07:03] <elzoog> Olson:  Yeah, but why is the newest version of Ubuntu using the same version as the old one?
[07:03] <dl> but after I logged in  use onscreen keyboard ,my physical keyboard works again
[07:03] <Flynsarmy> How can i make inactive windows' titlebars transparent so it's easier to tell which window is active?
[07:03] <Fireking300> kungfuman, why? O.o
[07:03] <the_e> but the thing is...shouldn't reinstalling samba reinstall /etc/samba too?
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> Kawiii: bah. Try some bootoptions then
[07:04] <funkycat90210> does 10.4 work with the new core i5/i3 intels?
[07:04] <Kawiii> ActionParsnip: Boot options meaning?
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: you could use emerald if its still around. There may be a theme for it
[07:04] <geekphreak> funkycat90210: i am on i5 intel
[07:04] <Olson> elzoog, because the community hasn't got round to building the latest version for release in the repositories yet. If you'd like to help out, there is a place to go on the website where you could devote some of your time to helping the project
[07:04] <kungfuman> Fireking300, just asking. Some time i see they talk in #hackergroup
[07:04] <PythonPup> the_e, No.  To do that, you need to do a complete removal and then reinstall.
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | kawiii
[07:05] <brous-kee> Hutch[S]-> am in ubuntu 8.10 myself, i have not touched the 10's yet
[07:05] <IdleOne> !ot | kungfuman
[07:05] <the_e> thats really, really poor design
[07:05] <PythonPup> the_e, That is really good design, actually.
[07:05] <funkycat90210> geekphreak, how recent is your i5?
[07:05] <Flynsarmy> ActionParsnip, I want to keep everything about hte default theme the same other than the inactive window titlebars. don't want a new theme
[07:05] <greezmunkey> the_e: you probably need to remove / purge it then reinstall to do that...
[07:05] <the_e> I did!
[07:06] <geekphreak> funkycat90210:  i month old, so pretty new mate on 10.4 here
[07:06] <the_e> I removed AND purged samba and reinstalled it
[07:06] <the_e> even as root
[07:06] <the_e> and it still wont create the folder again
[07:06] <the_e> or create the files
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: emerald only changes the window decorator. I'm unsure how supported it is though
[07:06] <funkycat90210> geekphreak, nice, so you have the new 32nm technology w/ integrated gpu so mine should work
[07:06] <hipitihop> geekphreak, phew all this grub2 seems a lot more involved ... all I want to do is change existing entry pointing @ (hd0,6) to (hd0,1)
[07:06] <Olson> elzoog, it's worth remembering that linux is free and relies on people devoting their spare time to make it better
[07:06] <taroven> elzoog: OOO 3.2.0 is a very new release, as far as operating system timelines go. Using a previous, known-to-be-stable version is par for the course for both Ubuntu and Debian.
[07:06] <pvh_sa|wrk> hey all, i just upgraded to 10.4, and when i start "empathy" it opens the "import accounts" dialogue! eek! what happened to my IM accounts? anyone know where empathy stores settings?
[07:06] <the_e> it's poor design because purging/removing samba doesn't delete the conf files
[07:06] <geekphreak> funkycat90210: yup
[07:06] <Flynsarmy> ActionParsnip, would it mess with compiz?
[07:06] <greezmunkey> the_e: exactly what commands did you use?
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> The_e: I believe /etc/samba is present even if samba is not
[07:07] <the_e> sudo apt-get purge (and remove) samba
[07:07] <evol_> taroven, grub will not install on sda3
[07:07] <the_e> then sudp apt-get install samba
[07:07] <Mathuin> I posted my question on the forums.  Hopefully, hopefully, someone will know what to do. :-( :-( :-(
[07:07] <abhijain> geekphreak: unable all process . also reboot . the synaptic package manage given error :You have 1 broken package on your system!
[07:07] <abhijain> Use the "Broken" filter to locate it. unable to quit from synaptic manager
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: no, compiz is required and compiz is a window manager
[07:07] <vimbai> Hi! I upgraded to lucid. Problem is that the screen is black during boot. This applies to an intel gma and an old enough radeon
[07:07] <the_e> im in synapic now downloading things related to samba with the Ubuntu logo next to it. I assume  those are the standard packages on the install
[07:07] <taroven> pvh_sa|wrk, were you using Empathy previously?
[07:07] <PythonPup> the_e, that is a good thing.  But, I don't think I will persuade you.  It saves a lot of work for people, usually.
[07:07] <geekphreak> abhijain:  does it give sudo apt-get -f install option ?
[07:07] <evol_> taroven, and im starting to get pissed off, i might just format everything and reinstall the OS
[07:08] <Kawiii> Vimbai:  /highfive - we have similar issues.
[07:08] <wildbat> speaker icon is missing in tray, how do it restore it?
[07:08] <the_e> we'll have to disagree
[07:08] <Kawiii> :P
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Vimba: try reinstalling plymouth and / or log a bug
[07:08] <the_e> agree to disagree*
[07:08] <abhijain> geekphreak: no
[07:08] <PythonPup> the_e, sure.
[07:08] <taroven> evol_: Yikes.  How many drives, etc?
[07:08] <geekphreak> abhijain: whats the package?
[07:09] <zetheroo> can someone explain to me how from one release to the next things break? - Is this the universal model for Linux distros, that with every new release you are back to square one and it's a toss-up whether or not what worked previously will work now?
[07:09] <Olson> elzoog, taroven debian squeeze has OO.Org 3.2.0
[07:09] <abhijain> sun-java6
[07:09] <vimbai> Kawiii: any ideas so far?
[07:09] <geekphreak> abhijain:  uninstall it for now please
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> Wildbat: in terminal type: gnome ,then press tab a few times. If you spot something that smells right press ALT+F2 and run it there
[07:10] <IdleOne> geekphreak: he can't it's broken. sudo apt-get install -f
[07:10] <evol_> taroven, well I have two HDD, and they're split into several partitions. i have two for storage, a ext2 (linux), an ext4 (swap) and a windows one
[07:10] <realubot> Zenity seem to use one of the items in my checklist if there is only one item in the list. If I only have one item and leave it unchecked, why do Zenity belive it's chosen anyway?
[07:10] <PythonPup> zetheroo, That happens sometimes, but I rarely see it.  So, I can't explain something that does not happen regurly.  Bad karma, maybe?
[07:10] <thak> ActionParsnip I fixed a small hardware message that I saw in dmesg, but it still does the same thing. Can you look at this and suggest a next step for making it recognize CDs? http://pastebin.com/fBQZbQJs
[07:10] <geekphreak> IdleOne: right
[07:10] <taroven> Olson: ...just now I checked the version, I hadn't looked myself
[07:11] <geekphreak> abhijain:  run that command sudo apt-get -f install
[07:11] <randal> Hi i need some help installing this program that is in tar format plz help
[07:11] <IdleOne> geekphreak: also if Synaptic is frozen he needs to killall synaptic or the sudo command won't work either
[07:11] <abhijain> geekphreak: after uninstallation
[07:11] <taroven> elzoog: What crack are you smoking? 3.2 is the latest stable release of OOO, do you expect a LTS Ubuntu release to come with betas and RCs?
[07:11] <geekphreak> IdleOne: i did tell him to reboot mate
[07:11] <arand> zetheroo: Regressions always happen, all boils down to how long you take to fix them, a rolling releas gives it no time, ubuntu gives it some time, debian stable gives it ages...
[07:11] <IdleOne> geekphreak: ahh ok :)
[07:11] <zetheroo> PythonPup: I have 4 laptops and 2 desktops all running Ubuntu here ... and with each new release there is at least one machine which will loose some prior function after upgrading ... usually it's more than one computer .... so I don't think "karma" has anything to do with it - ha
[07:12] <geekphreak> abhijain:  so its uninstalled?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Thak: seems ok to me, try websearching the dmesg lines. See if anyone has the same. Can you mount other optical media?
[07:12] <wildbat> ActionParsnip, nothing smeel right >.<
[07:12] <taroven> evol_: Where are linux and windows installed relative to eachother? Different drives, or same drive?
[07:12] <PythonPup> randal, You usually take apart a tar file with a command like   tar -xvf filename.tar     Instructions for installing are included, by convention in a readme file.
[07:12] <kelvinella> zetheroo, upgrade does occasionally breaks something here 2.  so i dont upgrade anymore
[07:12] <evol_> taroven,  same drive
[07:13] <abhijain> geekphreak: in progress
[07:13] <arand> zetheroo: Also, if that is the case, you should participate in  prerelease testing, report bugs and make sure it's all fixed by the release ;)
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Wildbat: not sure then, maybe someone else can contribute
[07:13] <taroven> evol_: The plot thickens further...
[07:13] <thak> ActionParsnip I get a different busy inodes message from a CD
[07:13] <zetheroo> arand: so is it a matter of the Ubuntu team (for example) changing/updating/replacing packages and thinking "oh well, this will probably f**k things up for some people.... but heck ... "?
[07:13] <randal> python ya im trying to install dolphin gc emulator
[07:13] <geekphreak> abhijain:  ok mate
[07:13] <wildbat> ActionParsnip, np thanks ^^ i may not have the command installed thpu ~ ut no idea what is that ;p
[07:13] <mathfreak> Hi, everyone. Can I replace the "unlink" command in this tutorial with "rm"? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-do-you-change-the-boot-splash-screen-image-for-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> Wildbat: or volume and press tab a few times, in terminal...
[07:14] <PythonPup> zetheroo, So, 1 out of thousands of packages has a problem during an upgrade on one of a batch of machines.  That sounds like a pretty good record.  I have better luck than that and I manage 30 machines, but one problem does not seem too bad.
[07:14] <zetheroo> arand: this particular issue was sounded off before the official release ... I don't think it really makes a difference
[07:14] <arand> zetheroo: It's either that or not upgrade anything at all, they can't possibly test everything.
[07:14] <vivek_> Hii all, Just did a fresh install of lucid lynx on my system. However the problem is , while I am able to add my twitter accounts etc in gwibber, (through the memenu and even gwibber itself), it actually does not show any messages , in there. I have refreshed the gwibber app umpteen times but still no, gwibber does not show any mesages....although when i tried with live cd everything was working properly.. someone please help
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> Wildbat: search software centre. It may help
[07:14] <wildbat> ActionParsnip, volname is the only match ;p
[07:15] <vishalparkar> Hi all, how to rename all files in a folder (from uppercase to lowercase)?
[07:15] <Olson> vishalparkar, install krename
[07:15] <vimbai_> Hi! I upgraded to lucid. Problem is that the screen is black during boot. This applies to an intel gma and an old enough radeon
[07:15] <zetheroo> arand: not 'everything' but is there no quality control that says "make sure that what was working previously is still going to work"? - obviously not ...
[07:15] <kungfuman> just do
[07:15] <taroven> evol_: Before doing anything drastic, give this a try if you haven't already - http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[07:15] <greezmunkey> arand: Is that why they call this a "community", because we *help* each other?!?
[07:15] <PythonPup> vishalparkar, I'd write a python script to do that.  Be careful that there are no name conflicts.
[07:16] <vishalparkar> Thanks
[07:16] <arand> zetheroo: We as the community are supposed to provide that quality control ;)
[07:16] <vishalparkar> Pl let me know how to
[07:16] <thak> ActionParsnip I don't have that much optical media with me, but I get the same thing with a CD and 3 DVD-RWs
[07:16] <Olson> vishalparkar, krename will do it with a nice GUI for you
[07:16] <taroven> evol_: That, btw, is linked from http://forums.skyfallgames.com/index.php?topic=131.0 - May or may not wholly apply, but worth a shot and won't destroy much/anything.
[07:16] <vernonjvs> in UNR 9.10, nautilus is hanging when copying from mounted CIFS shares. Any help would be appreciated.
[07:16] <evol_> taroven, when it comes to point where im meant to choose where to install it, shouldnt that be my linux partition?
[07:16] <Kawiii> ActionParsnip:  Just reloaded and checked the OS - no change.  Do you think it could be a graphic related problem?  I noticed that the loading Ubuntu screen (the purple one) is a distorted quality compared to the Live CD one, however, all graphics are normal at the login screen.
[07:17] <bilet> vishalparkar: for i in *; do mv -i "$i" "`echo "$i" | tr [A-Z] [a-z]`"; done
[07:17] <Alarm> goodmorning. is there a way to "clean" my OS ? meaning repair maybe faulty links, remove unneeded packages etc
[07:17] <vivek_> hii could someone please help me with gwibber
[07:18] <geekphreak> vivek_: i use pidgin for twitter, dont use gwibber
[07:18] <arand> greezmunkey: Of course, canonical would hardly be able to make ubuntu by themselves right?
[07:18] <taroven> evol_: Honestly not sure. Gimme a sec to do more research.
[07:18] <PythonPup> vishalparkar, Use perl, if you are more comfortable with it.  I am not going to be on long enough to do custom programming for you.  It should be a short program.  Probably 20 or 30 lines.
[07:18] <greezmunkey> arand: absolutely they couldn't
[07:18] <taroven> evol_: I'm going to assume yes, but I don't muck with grub enough to be sure.
[07:18] <vishalparkar> OK
[07:19] <zetheroo> arand: I guess what I am realising in the Linux world (and Open Source) is that we the users are the testers ... and there will probably never be a consistently functioning and dependable release ... it will always be "beta" or "testing" even after official release ...
[07:19] <LinuxGuy2009> Ubuntu Studio is only available as a alternate disk? No live dvd huh?
[07:19] <taroven> evol_: Correction. You'll want to install it directly to the MBR.
[07:19] <thak> ActionParsnip changing the order of udf and iso9660 in the fstab seemed to fix the issue
[07:20] <bilet> vishalparkar: or you could use the one-liner i pasted
[07:20] <bilet> vishalparkar: i just tested it on some test files and it looks like it works, but ymmv
[07:20] <evol_> taroven, okay but now i don't exactly know where to choose when it asks me
[07:20] <taroven> evol_: So if your drive is sda1, you're installing to sda, NOT sda1
[07:20] <PythonPup> zetheroo, There is no operating system that has no bugs.  Linux has fewer than any of similar complexity.
[07:20] <evol_> oh
[07:20] <evol_> okay let me try
[07:20] <thak> ActionParsnip brous-kee Thanks for your help!
[07:20] <taroven> evol_: Best of luck.
[07:21] <PythonPup> zetheroo, This is really off topic, so I'll stop responding on this.
[07:21] <zetheroo> PythonPup: it's not even about not having any NEW bugs ... but when the same issues continue to arise release after release ... it's not fun anymore
[07:21] <progre55> hi people! when booting, my splash-screen is really bad quality, like 480x600 or smth.. and it looks so bad. any ways to improve it??
[07:22] <progre55> I mean, 640x480 =)
[07:22] <arand> zetheroo: That all depends on how much time is allocated for the testing. The more time, the more stabe... Ubuntu is very quick in releases in my opinion at least..
[07:22] <taroven> zetheroo: By nature, open source is more stable than closed source. Closed source, if you get a bug you're stuck with it. Open, you're not.
[07:22] <Deiz> Any of you able to identify this icon: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/icon.png ?
[07:22] <brous-kee> thak  your'e welcome
[07:23] <blue-frog> Deiz, shutter
[07:23] <maple1> I'm bicurious
[07:23] <greezmunkey> arand: do me a favor, please run grub --version, and post the result please. TIA
[07:23] <maple1> I like both windows and linux
[07:23] <LinuxGuy2009> Deiz: nope
[07:23] <zetheroo> arand: right ... so it's more or less that really to get a "better" Ubuntu experience you would upgrade maybe 3 months after the official release date
[07:23] <CytotoxicTCell> is ext4 more powerful than ExT3?
[07:23] <maple1> it's 1 more powerful than 3
[07:23] <maple1> that's why it's 4
[07:24] <LinuxGuy2009> !ext4
[07:24] <LinuxGuy2009> darn
[07:24] <CytotoxicTCell> !ext4
[07:24] <realubot> Is it possible to somehow use a original Windows 7 installation, system backup, recovery CD etc to install Windows inside VirtualBox in Ubuntu?
[07:24] <maple1> NO
[07:24] <zetheroo> taroven: don't know about "open source is more stable than closed source" part ... maybe in the long run ... but for those who like to keep things fresh and updated it's usually a nightmare ...
[07:24] <taroven> zetheroo: Would you not do the same with Windows? Most companies hold off updating to the next Windows release until the first service pack, which is usually a year down the line.
[07:24] <maple1> if you try I'm going to call the police
[07:24] <geekphreak> realubot: yes,
[07:25] <CytotoxicTCell> i just microwaved my windows 7 disks =)
[07:25] <geekphreak> realubot:  oh recovery cd, my bad no
[07:25] <vivek_> guys someone please help me with gwibber
[07:25] <geekphreak> man i need more coffee
[07:25] <zetheroo> taroven: no ... I started using Windows 7 in the week it was released ... and honestly .. no issues for me ... even on older hardware
[07:25] <h00k> geekphreak: it happens
[07:25] <BlacKnight> hey, how can I use the "ALT+NUM" method in linux? i tried Ctrl+shift+U but the combinations are not the same, is that the only way?
[07:25] <PythonPup> progre55, there has been a kernel option in the past to set your screen resolution during boot.  I don't know where to look for Plymouth.
[07:25] <geekphreak> h00k: htanks bud
[07:25] <arand> greezmunkey: I've got no grub-legacy installed I'm afraid...
[07:25] <h00k> geekphreak: :D
[07:25] <geekphreak> vivek_:  did it ever work?
[07:25] <taroven> zetheroo: And I started using Ubuntu 10.04 the day it was released with zero issues at all.
[07:26] <zetheroo>  taroven: how many systems?
[07:26] <CytotoxicTCell> how can i resize ext4?
[07:26] <PythonPup> taroven, that would be yesterday, then.
[07:26] <arand> zetheroo: Yea, and stick to LTS...
[07:26] <CytotoxicTCell> I just deleted my 200GB NTFS partition
[07:26] <vivek_> geekphreak: it was working when i checked it with the live cd... help me resolve it.. i will buy you gallons of coffee:-)
[07:26] <realubot> geekphreak: I have red that it may be possible creating a system backup iso and then boot the recovery and then import the iso using the recovery CD in Virtual Box?
[07:26] <taroven> zetheroo: Three so far. Only a moderate niggle with the wrong sound card being selected on a netbook that happened to have a usb headset plugged in.
[07:26] <progre55> PythonPup: oh thanks..
[07:26] <geekphreak> CytotoxicTCell: using gparted, but like with any partition bfore you proced , make backups
[07:26] <zetheroo> arand: well God forbid I would still be using 8.04 ... :P
[07:26] <greezmunkey> arand: I ask because when i run it I get: grub (GNU GRUB 0.97) - seems odd, I should have the latest grub as of 9.10 here...
[07:27] <geekphreak> vivek_:  lol thats kinda of  you ,
[07:27] <birkett> Can anyone help me with the nvidia hardware drivers on a fresh installation of ubuntu 10.04 64 bit edition? The display works correctly until I use the hardware drivers tool to install the nvidia-drivers for 3d support, after that I get a screeen resolution of 640x480 and the desktop is displayed as 6 copies which overlap each other slightly.
[07:27] <realubot> geekphreak: Then import the system backup iso in Virtual Box by booting Recovery CD in Virtual Box. The problem is that some people say that the EULA will be a problem?
[07:27] <arand> zetheroo: See, that's why, you want the latest, hence you will also get the latest bugs that comes with it...
[07:27] <taroven> zetheroo: And mind you, most issues I've experienced with Linux have been immediately apparent. I run 'em through the ringer to make sure things are working as intended before handing computers off to the wife and kids.
[07:27] <zetheroo> taroven: good for you :) ... I have 6 system here ... 2 of which are having issues with Lucid ...
[07:27] <vivek_> geekphreak: would you know how to resolve it
[07:27] <Kawiii> Hey everyone - I was talking to ActionParsnip earlier, but he seems to have gone.  I installed Ubuntu 10.04 today, just finished moving my files back over and updating my programs and it worked fine up until a little while ago.  I boot the system, get my BIOS screen, get a distorted Ubuntu logo with the dots telling me it's loading, and then the login screen.  I login, and either immediately...
[07:27] <geekphreak> realubot: possibly
[07:27] <Kawiii> ...or within 10-15 seconds, I receive a blank screen where I can do nothing.  (IE~ Pressing capslock does not cause the light to show up on the keyboard.)  Does anyone have an suggestions on what I can do to correct this?
[07:27] <progre55> PythonPup: wow, but how to use it? )
[07:28] <raldi> I'm trying to ask a question on #ubuntu-kernel, but I get "cannot send to channel". It doesn't appear to require +v; is there something else I need to do in order to speak there?
[07:28] <fierman> dutch release party today, right?
[07:28] <geekphreak> vivek_: i am not talking bout live cd, on installed system did it ever work, it could be just a bad setting mate
[07:28] <blue-frog> realubot, then you read the EULA and you will know by yourself. some version of vista (if not all) are forbidden to virtualise
[07:28] <arand> greezmunkey: Yep, that's grub-legacy alright. Is this an upgrade from jaunty or earlier?
[07:28] <vivek_> geekphreak:i installed lucid yesterday and since then it is not working...
[07:28] <realubot> blue-frog: Forbidden is not the same as impossible or possible for MS to detect.
[07:29] <eric_> can anyone tell me the terminal command to install the gui login screen for backtrack 4
[07:29] <zetheroo> arand: well this is the thing right .. Ubuntu is released and people want to have the latest ... but if it's not fully tested why is it being released as a "stable" release?
[07:29] <greezmunkey> arand: no, but I may have opted to use grub-legacy when I installed this - I honestly can't remember. I probably did, being used to lilo in the past...
[07:29] <vivek_> geekphreak: bad setting? where .. i cant see any thing there.. i can add my accounts and all but nothing comes up in gwibber
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> How can anything ever be 'fully' tested..
[07:29] <PythonPup> progre55, I don't know.  I'd look for Plymoth boot or similar on google.  Before this release, you would add a kernel option for  vga=791   or similar.
[07:29] <realubot> Will Virtual Box have different hardware info than the sam computer have when Windows 7 is instaleld default.
[07:29] <zetheroo> arand: it should be released every 6 months as a "testing" release and then every year there should be a "stable" release - That would be honest!
[07:30] <blue-frog> realubot, why not asking at ##windows then what do we have to do with your windows virtualisation problems?
[07:30] <geekphreak> vivek_:  open account setting in gwibber , make sure send messages and recieve messages are ticked
[07:30] <tsolias> hi all ... does anyone has a solution for the minimizing issue of 10.04? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9207776#post9207776
[07:30] <eric_> can someone help me
[07:30] <realubot> blue-frog: Well, I want to run Win7 virtual in Ubuntu.
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> progre55:  this url may have some info on replaceing the vga= options with the proper grub2 options --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[07:30] <Kawiii> Heh - people must really not like my issue... I'm running into lack of responses everywhere I go.
[07:30] <tripelb> corrrection: IdleOne, I found it, kill-flash This extension removes flash elements and replaces them with a clickable element  NOPE; not working well. I think there is also flashblock by the same as in ff.
[07:30] <arand> greezmunkey: Well, you can always install the grub-legacy tools, that might be what you did?
[07:30] <greezmunkey> arand: hey, as long as it boots, right!
[07:30] <greezmunkey> arand: let me man -k that...
[07:31] <taroven> zetheroo: Release schedules are a pain like that. If Canonical decided to delay Ubuntu until it was perfect, we'd never see a release.
[07:31] <[Screamo]> Can anyone help my with automaticly mounting harddrives?
[07:31] <vivek_> geekphreak:it is already checked(both send and recieve messages)
[07:31] <greezmunkey> arand: yup, sure looks like it..it's all good though
[07:31] <arand> zetheroo: Well feel free to convince the techincal board ;)
[07:31] <PythonPup> taroven, No program is ever finished.  It is only abandoned.
[07:31] <geekphreak> vivek_:  try to delete the account, then recreate it
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> [Screamo]:  You have read up on the proper use of the fstab? if not thats there to start.
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> !fstab
[07:32] <eric_> can someone help me
[07:32] <[Screamo]> yea
[07:32] <tripelb> http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-03/how-start-fire-just-compressed-air
[07:32] <taroven> PythonPup: I know the creed well, I'm a programmer myself. =P
[07:32] <geekphreak> !ask | eric_
[07:32] <tripelb> oops wrong window
[07:32] <[Screamo]> oh, PythonPup it didnt work by the way
[07:32] <randal> I need some help im trying to listen to a radio show on the internet that is ran with windows media player how do i get this to work (Ive had it working before but i dont remember how to do it)
[07:33] <raldi> I'm encountering a kernel bug. Before I go through the trouble of packaging up a detailed bug report, is there any quick way to see if it's a known bug?
[07:33] <PythonPup> [Screamo], What did not work?
[07:33] <[Screamo]> uhm
[07:33] <taroven> randal, have you installed the restricted-extras package?
[07:33] <[Screamo]> you really dont remeber?
[07:33] <randal> taroven, yes i have
[07:33] <zetheroo> taroven: not about perfection ... but it's common knowledge that in 6 months the Ubuntu team cannot test a great deal of things ... and an extra 6 months of testing would definitely improve the quality of the release ...
[07:33] <birkett> Please can someone help with the binary nvidia-drivers? I used the System > Administration > Hardware Drivers tool to install the nvidia drivers, but after reboot the display is set to 640x480, and 6 copies of the desktop are displayed on my screen overlapping each other slightly. Some googling suggests it is to do with the kernel mode graphics resolution setting, but I have no idea how to make it work correctly or disable KMS and
[07:33] <tsolias> anyone has a solution for the minimizing issue? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9207776#post9207776
[07:33] <PythonPup> I have worked on several problems.  Was this the sudoers setup?
[07:34] <eric_> can someone tell me the command to install the gui login interface for bt4
[07:34] <DexterLB> if i buy this: http://tinyurl.com/36ombo6 will it be usable on ubuntu?
[07:34] <Kawiii> startx, if I'm not mistaken, eric_
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> DexterLB:  you could at least summarize what it is.
[07:34] <zetheroo> arand: I know - ha
[07:34] <vivek_> geekphreak:no
[07:34] <geekphreak> eric_: bt as in backtrack?
[07:34] <sp0spo> does ntfsresize -fi /dev/device work similar as windows's chkdsk /f ?  does it fix bad NTFS file system?
[07:34] <eric_> yes
[07:34] <randal> taroven, anyideas how i can fix this
[07:34] <vivek_> geekphreak:no does not work
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> eric_:  install a window manager that you like/and a gdm/kdm/xdm that you like.. and we dont support BT here. they have their own channel
[07:35] <toshiba> hello
[07:35] <kungfuman> geekphreak, why?
[07:35] <taroven> zetheroo: And then we run into the Debian conundrum.
[07:35] <[Screamo]> yes pytq
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> eric_:  i suggest using  'ubuntu' if you are new to linux.
[07:35] <[Screamo]> * PythonPup
[07:35] <zetheroo> taroven: which is ... ?
[07:35] <geekphreak> kungfuman: why what?
[07:35] <DexterLB> ok... edit: If I buy the "creative x-fi sound blaster xtreme audio" for pci-e (link: http://tinyurl.com/36ombo6 ) will it work on ubuntu?
[07:35] <tsolias> anyone? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9207776#post9207776
[07:35] <eric_> im not new to linux i just need the program to do the gui login
[07:35] <taroven> zetheroo: Debian runs a 2-year release cycle. Meaning one major release per two years without much but beta inbetween.
[07:35] <Kawiii> eric_: Did you try 'startx'?
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> eric_:  install the proper packages using the package manager tools.
[07:36] <taroven> zetheroo: Ubuntu, on the other hand, runs a six month release cycle.
[07:36] <hsr> Hello! I upgraded from Ubuntu 9.10 to Ubuntu 10.04LTS yesterday with complete clean upgrade. But, on reboot after loading grub i am always finding blank screen with cursor blinking and message: resume libgcrypt version: 1.4.4. How can i get rid of this message, its eating boot-time. Please help....
 eric_: bt as in backtrack?
[07:36] <zetheroo> taroven: yes ..
[07:36] <PythonPup> [Screamo], does that means yes?  I can only guess.
[07:36] <eric_> yup but there was a program this guy told me on here and it worked
[07:36] <blue102> how do I get demux for playing dvd
[07:36] <[Screamo]> yes, the sudoers thing
[07:36] <taroven> zetheroo: Ubuntu gets the advantage for being cutting edge. Debian takes the lead on stability.
[07:36] <geekphreak> kungfuman: naaw he said he wanted bt4 login something, so bt4 as in backtrack?
[07:36] <MatrixCell> hi
[07:36] <[Screamo]> and it didnt work
[07:36] <toshiba> hey
[07:36] <eric_> yes
 yes
[07:37] <zetheroo> taroven: is it really "cutting edge" to not be "stable"?
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> eric_:   'a program' for a GUI login - would be one of the ?dm login managers. such as gdm, kdm, or xdm or any of the others you can find by using the apt-cache search XXXXX    commands
[07:37] <kungfuman> i see now
[07:37] <geekphreak> eric_: try asking in backtrack channel
[07:37] <vivek_> geekphreak:think of it please :-)
[07:37] <hsr> *Hello! I upgraded from Ubuntu 9.10 to Ubuntu 10.04LTS yesterday with complete clean upgrade. But, on reboot after loading grub i am always finding blank screen with cursor blinking and message: resume libgcrypt version: 1.4.4. How can i get rid of this message, its eating boot-time. Please help....*
[07:37] <geekphreak> ok vivek_  try one more thing
[07:37] <tsolias> all 10.04 windows are minimizing after 2-3 seconds ... does anyone has a solution ?? ---------------------------------------------------------------------
[07:37] <zetheroo> taroven: I had this discussion with the Fedora guys ... all about being "cutting edge" ... and unstable as well ...
[07:37] <PythonPup> That is the way to setup a sudoers entry.  Check it carefully for a typo.  I have a similar line in my sudoers file and it works fine.
[07:37] <kelvinella> hsr, clean upgrade?
[07:37] <progre55> !puregnome
[07:37] <PythonPup> [Screamo],  That is the way to setup a sudoers entry.  Check it carefully for a typo.  I have a similar line in my sudoers file and it works fine.
[07:37] <taroven> zetheroo: I'm not sure if I would call Ubuntu unstable simply because of some hardware quirks.
[07:38] <owen1> how to tell what terminal i am in?
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> taroven:  you could call every OS unstable then.
  are you use bt?
[07:38] <abhijain> geekphreak: unable to install and remove
[07:38] <hsr> kelvinella: there was no error in upgrade process
[07:38] <taroven> Dr_Willis: Truth spoken.
[07:38] <hsr> kelvinella: ....
[07:38] <geekphreak> vivek_:  rename .gconf/apps/gwibber to .gconf/apps/gwibber.bak/
[07:38] <owen1> xterm/terminetor etc?
[07:38] <zetheroo> taroven: quirks? ... well if those "quirks" force you to change your computing habits ...
[07:38] <komies> silly question, maybe; but how where can I go to set my computer to go into standby mode when I close the lid?
[07:38] <garrythefish> Happy Labour Day eveyone! :-)
[07:38] <geekphreak> abhijain:  in terminal >> sudo apt-get -f install
[07:38] <abhijain> geekphreak: The installation or removal of a software package failed.
[07:38] <h00k> komies: Power Managment settings
[07:38] <vivek_> geekphreak:then
[07:39] <[Screamo]> Can anyone help a lazy person with automounting hdds on boot?
[07:39] <[Screamo]> =/
[07:39] <h00k> komies: system -> preferences
[07:39] <raj> i REALLY dont like the new ubuntu with its shutdown / restart bug. its pissing me off soo bad :S 10.04 should be alot more stable than this
[07:39] <geekphreak> vivek_: then try to restart the application
[07:39] <[Screamo]> EG: pretty much do most of th work
[07:39] <[Screamo]> :|
[07:39] <toshiba>     Last week they were then hit by a serious memory leaking issue within the X.Org Server, which fortunately has now been fixed in time for the release. But now we are onto a new issue. Rather than the Canonical crew and Ubuntu developers around the world spending today celebrating the release of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, they are busy re-spinning some of the ISOs due to a new "critical" bug.
[07:39] <komies> thank you :)\
[07:39] <h00k> toshiba: that was fixed before it was released.
[07:39] <toshiba> oh
[07:39] <h00k> toshiba: :)
[07:39] <hsr> *Hello! I upgraded from Ubuntu 9.10 to Ubuntu 10.04LTS yesterday with complete clean upgrade. But, on reboot after loading grub i am always finding blank screen with cursor blinking and message: resume libgcrypt version: 1.4.4. How can i get rid of this message, its eating boot-time. Please help....*
[07:39] <MatrixCell> ok folks..enough with the gay jokes..how do i get ubuntu lts to play movies
[07:40] <sn0rl4y> siema
[07:40] <taroven> zetheroo: Every Ubuntu release I've tried since 7.04 has been rock solid. I have my own personal differences with PulseAudio (see earlier reference to a netbook with a USB headset), sure, but on the other hand there is no OS out there where you need to change nothing.
[07:40] <toshiba> hah yes aim a toshiba person
[07:40] <sn0rl4y> jak wejsc na polskie ubuntu ?
[07:40] <abhijain> geekphreak: a windoe open for configuration of dun java
[07:40] <garrythefish> MatrixCell: gay jokes?
[07:40] <h00k> MatrixCell: please be respectful
[07:40] <johnrazeur> #ubuntu-fr
[07:40] <geekphreak> abhijain: what does it say ?
[07:40] <vivek_> geekphreak:by the way i tried restarting gwibber from the terminal and it gave me some errors.. would you please have a look at them ..  http://pastebin.com/wxWcYvKD
[07:40] <kelvinella> MatrixCell, install vlc
[07:40] <MatrixCell> its a figure of speech
[07:41] <PythonPup> taroven, I have used all the Ubuntu releases.  I would say they all became very solid.  A few were shaky for the first few weeks of release.
[07:41] <MatrixCell> ok thanks
[07:41] <abhijain> geekphreak: only infromationa bout java in blue window
[07:41] <garrythefish> is it? dunno
[07:41] <h00k> MatrixCell: that figure of speech isn't welcome here, please be respectful :)
[07:41] <hsr> Hey anyone can help me in this room??????
[07:41] <zetheroo> taroven; and no OS offers a "stable" release every 6 months either ...
[07:41] <h00k> hsr: sure, just go ahead and ask your question
[07:41] <geekphreak> abhijain: follow the prompts
[07:41] <garrythefish> hsr: probably :P
[07:41] <taroven> zetheroo: The OS itself works great. The included software, which the OS devs perhaps have little to no control over, perhaps not always - But it always WORKS.
[07:41] <hsr> Hello! I upgraded from Ubuntu 9.10 to Ubuntu 10.04LTS yesterday with complete clean upgrade. But, on reboot after loading grub i am always finding blank screen with cursor blinking and message: resume libgcrypt version: 1.4.4. How can i get rid of this message, its eating boot-time. Please help....
[07:41] <toshiba> well 10.04 still has some thing to do anyway
[07:41] <raj> MatrixCell,  get medibuntu repositories in your software sources for all the needed codecs and install w32codec
[07:41] <kelvinella> hsr, try clean install
[07:41] <taroven> zetheroo: No OS offers a 'stable' release period, it's all terminology.
[07:42] <h00k> !dvd | MatrixCell
[07:42] <hsr> kelvinella: how?
[07:42] <[Screamo]> Help!!!!
[07:42] <abhijain> geekphreak: here is nok kind of information forr instalaltion
[07:42] <zetheroo> taroven: not really .. not when you have power management issues, graphics issues, wifi issues, sound issues, kernel panics ... etc ....
[07:42] <geekphreak> abhijain:  any ok butons anything?
[07:42] <vivek_> geekphreak:can you please post that again the renaming file thing.. i seemed to have missed something
[07:43] <h00k> [Screamo]: what is your question?
[07:43] <hsr> Hello! I upgraded from Ubuntu 9.10 to Ubuntu 10.04LTS yesterday with complete clean upgrade. But, on reboot after loading grub i am always finding blank screen with cursor blinking and message: resume libgcrypt version: 1.4.4. How can i get rid of this message, its eating boot-time. Please help.... PS: i have tried initramfs command to update...but still same problem.....
[07:43] <abhijain> geekphreak: yeah   <ok>
[07:43] <hsr> h00k: Hello! I upgraded from Ubuntu 9.10 to Ubuntu 10.04LTS yesterday with complete clean upgrade. But, on reboot after loading grub i am always finding blank screen with cursor blinking and message: resume libgcrypt version: 1.4.4. How can i get rid of this message, its eating boot-time. Please help.... PS: i have tried initramfs command to update...but still same problem.....
[07:43] <geekphreak> vivek_: rename .gconf/apps/gwibber to .gocnf/apps/gwibber.bak/
[07:43] <[Screamo]> automounting drives at boot
[07:43] <raj> i REALLY dont like the new ubuntu with its shutdown / restart bug. its pissing me off soo bad :S 10.04 should be alot more stable than this.. ANYONE ELSE HAS THIS BUG... it so,etimes doesnt restart/shutdown just logs out and i have to manually shutdown. ( button)
[07:43] <sebi_`> how come the upgrade notification for ubuntu 10.04 is only shown when running 'update-manager -c', but not when running 'update-manager -c'? :/
[07:43] <Parsi> http://pastebin.com/PaWBkYej why there are 7 partitions ? i've 4 in windows
[07:43] <hsr> garrythefish: h00k: Hello! I upgraded from Ubuntu 9.10 to Ubuntu 10.04LTS yesterday with complete clean upgrade. But, on reboot after loading grub i am always finding blank screen with cursor blinking and message: resume libgcrypt version: 1.4.4. How can i get rid of this message, its eating boot-time. Please help.... PS: i have tried initramfs command to update...but still same problem.....
[07:43] <sebi_`> isn't 10.04 already released?
[07:43] <h00k> ubottu: fstab | [Screamo]
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> [Screamo]:  and what part of that are you having prolems with?
[07:44] <[Screamo]> same part as last time
[07:44] <taroven> zetheroo: As opposed to bluescreens, devices with zero available drivers, *nonexistant support*, and a closed-minded, closed-source mentality?
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> [Screamo]:  no idea what that was/is. i doubt if anyone does.
[07:44] <h00k> hsr: don't direct it at me, I'm not sure how to help you, perhaps somebody else can help
[07:44] <[Screamo]> ive got adhd, so i cant concentrate long enough to get the syntax down
[07:44] <[Screamo]> =/
[07:44] <raj> i REALLY dont like the new ubuntu with its shutdown / restart bug. its pissing me off soo bad :S 10.04 should be alot more stable than this.. ANYONE ELSE HAS THIS BUG... it so,etimes doesnt restart/shutdown just logs out and i have to manually shutdown. ( button)
[07:44] <zetheroo> taroven; look, very generally I am very fond of Linux and have been using it as my main OS since 2006 ... and I do realize that sometimes I am just acting plain spoiled - ha ... but I do wonder if and when Linux, and especially Ubuntu, will become as dependable as we need it to be ...
[07:44] <sebi_`> hello? :|
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> [Screamo]:  and the filesystem on the hd is? and the device for the hd is?
[07:44] <hsr> h00k: ya
[07:44] <sebi_`> it's somewhat urgent, as I'm about to upgrade
[07:44] <[Screamo]> 2 are ntfs and one is ext3
[07:44] <vishalparkar> How to rename all .htm files  ina directory to .html ?
[07:45] <kelvinella> hsr, backup pics or movies, then reinstall
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> [Screamo]:  for ntfs  - install and run (as root) the ntfs-config tool.
[07:45] <vishalparkar> How to rename all .htm files  in a directory to .html ?
[07:45] <Parsi> please someone help me with http://pastebin.com/PaWBkYej
[07:45] <taroven> zetheroo: Your answer is the stable Debian branches, which Ubuntu is based on.
[07:45] <h00k> raj: have you checked Launchpad for that bugs and possible workarounds?
[07:45] <Parsi> there are 3 more partitions!
[07:45] <[Screamo]> i didnt have to do that last time i did this
[07:45] <PythonPup> zetheroo, if you really need dependable, don't updgrade to a new version a day after it comes out.  Wait a month at least.
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> [Screamo]:  for the ext3  - you should edit the /etc/fstab and cut/paste/edit abn existing exntry.
[07:45] <abhijain> geekphreak: ??
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> [Screamo]:  No idea what you did 'last time' this is 'now'
[07:45] <taroven> zetheroo: Your answer, honestly, is anything with a release cycle longer than the average lifespan of a fish.
[07:46] <taroven> Well, depends on the fish of course.
[07:46] <[Screamo]> Dr_Willis, on my other comp (wich fried) i had all these hdds added to fstab
[07:46] <zetheroo> PythonPup: that is what it seems like .. although I would say wait 3 months ... just to be a little more sure ..
[07:46] <MatrixCell> having a hard time watching youtube videos..any suggestions?
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> [Screamo]:  and somthing added them there.. ntfs-config can automate that for ntfs filesystems.
[07:46] <zetheroo> taroven: what is the average lifespan of a fish? :D
[07:47] <taroven> zetheroo: Not sure, just picked a random creature family off the top of my head. You get the picture though. =P
[07:47] <DexterLB> well I started a thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1467838
[07:47] <DexterLB> and I'll see what the guys say...
[07:47] <zetheroo> taroven: haha ... sure yeah
[07:48] <abhijain> geekphreak: now what to do
[07:48] <taroven> zetheroo: Don't get me wrong, I agree with you 100% about Ubuntu itself being inherently unstable, but the people behind it do their best to make it as usable as possible with the time they're given.
[07:48] <geekphreak> abhijain: did you run that command apt-get -f install ?
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> There comes a time when you have to shoot the engineers and ship the product..
[07:49] <dhruvasagar> no ubuntu isn't unstable
[07:49] <raj> h00k,  yes its reported no workaround at all
[07:49] <taroven> zetheroo: It's very hard to bash on people who do the kind of work that goes into an operating system when they're doing it free of charge.
[07:49] <abhijain> geekphreak: yeah and den output is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/425711/
[07:49] <ravenkhan> can anybody please help me in enabling the "extra-effects" under the "Visual effects" tab
[07:49] <geekphreak> Dr_Willis: thank god i am not your engineer lol
[07:49] <Kawiii> Would someone be willing to visit this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9207899 and tell me if they have any ideas on how to fix said problem?  I would type it out here, but it's a rather lengthy post.
[07:49] <geekphreak> abhijain: ok
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> geekphreak:  replace engineer with 'designer/programmer/cook/whoever' :)
[07:49] <raj> dhruvasagar,  its the most unstable linux distro i EVER USED... linux mint  fedora mandriva pclinuxos are alot more stable
[07:49] <ravenkhan> hi all
[07:50] <ravenkhan> can anybody please help me in enabling the "extra-effects" under the "Visual effects" tab
[07:50] <abhijain> geekphreak: its only have sun java information
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> ravenkhan:  install the proper 3d drivers for your video card (which is a?) for starters
[07:50] <raj> dhruvasagar,  ubuntu simply doesnt work'
[07:50] <taroven> raj: Yet how do you define stability?
[07:50] <winXPuser> ravenkhan what problem do you have when you try to enaable them?
[07:50] <vivek_> geekphreak: am unable to locate the folder .gconf.. sorry for being such a pain
[07:50] <dhruvasagar> raj: what makes you say that ?
[07:50] <Reckon> morning
[07:50] <dhruvasagar> raj: I have used ubuntu for over 2 years now
[07:50] <taroven> raj: "Works for me" doesn't cut it when you know there are plenty of other people that have exactly zero problems with it.
[07:50] <winXPuser> raj what is your specific question?
[07:50] <raj> dhruvasagar,  go and try something else and you will see
[07:50] <dhruvasagar> raj: I can't say i've faced somet hickups, but things have been very good
[07:50] <geekphreak> vivek_: folder is hidden in naulius, press ctrl+h to view hidden files
[07:50] <ravenkhan> winXPuser: it says can enable desktop effects when i try
[07:51] <[Screamo]> hey Dr_Willis its asking: enable write support for internal device and external device
[07:51] <Flynsarmy> How are terminal windows transparent in the default hteme if edit - profile preferences - background is set to 'solid colour' ? is it a compiz option somehwere or what?
[07:51] <[Screamo]> =/
[07:51] <dhruvasagar> raj: something else ? like what ? don't say windows :P
[07:51] <ravenkhan> Dr_Willis: please tell from where
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> [Screamo]:  so enable them?
[07:51] <Jacen> I had problems with installation and running it
[07:51] <Jacen> just took a couple of reinstallations
[07:51] <raj> dhruvasagar,  debian / linux mint / fedora / pclinuxos mandriva.. or even opensuse
[07:51] <abhijain> geekphreak:  i m unable to install anything now .
[07:51] <taroven> Flynsarmy: I was kinda wondering that myself, I'll have to remind myself to take a look.
[07:51] <ravenkhan> Dr_Willis: i have 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10)
[07:51] <[Screamo]> Its not like it describes what they are exactly
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> ravenkhan:  I use the hardware manager icon in the system menu to install the proper video card drivers for my machines. Then i can use all the compiz eyecandy
[07:51] <dhruvasagar> the only people who really face problems with ubuntu are those who are used to spoon feeding
[07:51] <Jacen> It's free, and still a baby...you have to work with it
[07:51] <taroven> raj: Mint is based on Ubuntu.
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> ravenkhan:  SiS? You proberly should just give up on compiz now...
[07:51] <Jacen> the rewards a beautiful though
[07:51] <dhruvasagar> raj: fedora sucks imho
[07:52] <h00k> raj: If you've checked the bug report and there is no fix or workaround yet, you'll just have to be patient until get it fixed
[07:52] <vishalparkar> what is krename?
[07:52] <maco> Flynsarmy: solid colour should, i think just mean "not a pattern" but the colour can have an alpha channel (iirc)
[07:52] <raj> winXPuser,  my problem was the shutdown / restart bug in ubuntu 10.04
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> ravenkhan:  im not sure SiS has ANY 3d support in linux.
[07:52] <XanderX> hi
[07:52] <Kawiii> Assuming that I mount sda1 on my Live CD, would I be able to move all the files from my Linux installation to my external HDD via the Live CD?
[07:52] <soreau> ravenkhan: That card is not capable of running compiz
[07:52] <ravenkhan> Dr_Willis: dear there under hardware manager i have only for modem
[07:52] <h00k> Kawiii: yep
[07:52] <taroven> raj: Well, was, think they're doing the direct-to-Debian switch for some reason next release.
[07:52] <Kawiii> h00k: Thanks.
[07:52] <winXPuser> raj, what is the exact issue? can you not restart or can you not shutdown?
[07:52] <ravenkhan> soreau: please suggest some other way then
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> ravenkhan:  i do know sis is proberly one of the most problamtic video cards/chipsets/company out for linux. So it may not be doable.
[07:53] <raj> taroven,  no mint is an improvment over ubuntu.. based on it but doesnt do everything like it
[07:53] <geekphreak> abhijain: yes there is ok button there, click ok man
[07:53] <soreau> ravenkhan: To run compiz? Get an ati, nvidia or intel chipset made in this century
[07:53] <h00k> raj: Do you have any more support questions?
[07:53] <vivek_> geekphreak: I am in .gconf/apps/gwibber.... which one do i change here.. there is a folder here client/%gconf.xml and an indivdual file %gconf.xml..... i know i know am being a pain
[07:53] <maco> raj: also if there's no fix/workaround posted in the *ubuntu* bug report but its software for which ubuntu is not upstream, check upstream's bugtracker / version control system and see if they've got it fixed. if so, put a link to the commit in their version control (cvs, svn, git...) that fixed it into the ubuntu bug report
[07:53] <geekphreak> vivek_: you have to change the gwibber folder itself
[07:53] <Flynsarmy> maco, even if you click 'transparent background', set it to maximum then go back to 'solid colour' it just goes back to transparent when you click solid colour. i like it - was just wondering how it was done. it doesn't appear to be caused by the terminal preferences htemselves
[07:53] <abhijain> geekphreak: its not working
[07:53] <ravenkhan> soreau: is SIS out of this century?
[07:53] <arand> Are one supposed to always have an ~/.Xauthority file?
[07:53] <XanderX> raj: nothing anything like it before!
[07:53] <geekphreak> abhijain: use tab key to highlight ok man
[07:53] <raj> WindPower,  exactly when i restart/ shutdown it only logs out. i have to shut it from hadrware .. even from the terminal
[07:54] <vivek_> geekphreak:okkk should i need to make a back up or somehitng
[07:54] <ravenkhan> soreau: i asked for the suggestion for SIS not to change card dear
[07:54] <taroven> raj: The only real differences between Mint and Ubuntu are a few of the default programs, and Mint includes restricted packages by default.
[07:54] <kASPer_58> Can someone help with installing 10.4 on a Proliant using SCSI
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> ravenkhan:  I see dozens of 'sis' problems in here a week. and SiS is just sadly a company that does not support linux very well.
[07:54] <soreau> ravenkhan: No, but it's not of the aforementioned brand names ;)
[07:54] <geekphreak> vivek_: rename it to gwibber.bak
[07:54] <soreau> ravenkhan: You cannot run compiz on SiS. Period/
[07:54] <dhruvasagar> Sis ?
[07:54] <XanderX> raj: Laptop OR PC ?
[07:54] <abhijain> geekphreak: no process after tab+ click
[07:55] <ravenkhan> Dr_Willis: you are regular you might have solved or heard of the solution please help
[07:55] <ravenkhan> dhruvasagar: yeah SIS please help
[07:55] <taroven> Anyway, I digress, it's time for bed. G'night/morning, peoples.
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> ravenkhan:  there is no 'instant fix' and last i even checked there were several 100+ pages of 'sis' threads on the forums..
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> ravenkhan:  its verry VERY likely it cant do 3d so cant do compiz.
[07:55] <raj> taroven,  not really mint qrites their own programs to include. and fixes the bugs that ubuntu never fixes. try ubuntu vs mint of any computer .. ubuntu works 70% while mint works 90%
[07:56] <kASPer_58> Has anyone got 10.4 installed on a Proliant
[07:56] <soreau> It's more than likely, it is a fact
[07:56] <zetheroo> taroven: are they doing it "free-of-charge"?
[07:56] <carae> hi can someone help me.  Have installed ubuntu 10.4.  All working well except the internet connection keeps being dropped when using software centre.  This occurs on wireless and wired connection.
[07:56] <h00k> raj: if you don't have any more questions, please stop advertizing mint here
[07:56] <dhruvasagar> h00k: I second that
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> ravenkhan:  i would say check tghe forums for your Exact chipset and   if its being worked on . the threads/pages at the end of the threads proberly mention how to do it. If its possible
[07:56] <rbutler> Hi there, I have the problem that I don
[07:56] <progre55> hey guys, what was the name of that application for mac-like menu icons?
[07:56] <raj> XanderX,  its a laptop
[07:56] <vivek_> geekphreak:no it did not help
[07:56] <ravenkhan> dhruvasagar: do you know way out dear regarding SIS
[07:56] <incd> Hmm, I'm installing Ubuntu from USB stick, I'm getting "Failed to copy file from CD-ROM. Retry?" in "Load installer components from CD" -par
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> progre55:  globalmenus
[07:56] <incd> t
[07:56] <dhruvasagar> raj: if you like mint, go to that channel
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> progre55:  or somthing like that
[07:57] <dhruvasagar> ravenkhan: no sorry dude
[07:57] <ravenkhan> Dr_Willis: ok .  771/671 is my card no.
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> incd:  how did you make the flash drive? and what iso did you use.
[07:57] <Fireking300> http://i43.tinypic.com/2qdy5mp.png O.o Little high for roadrunner don't ya think?
[07:57] <progre55> Dr_Willis: hmm.. no, it was something else..
[07:57] <rbutler> Hi there, I have the problem that I don't see the volume control button on the top panel
[07:57] <raj> dhruvasagar,  im still waiting for mint 9... i have mint 8 on desktop.. and now 10.04 on this laptop so i am here
[07:57] <progre55> Dr_Willis: oh, gnomedo =)
[07:57] <progre55> I guess
[07:57] <geekphreak> vivek_:  then sorry i am running out of ideas,maybe someone else can help
[07:57] <abhijain> geekphreak: q0.4bug
[07:57] <maco> carae: does it disconnect when you do *other* large downloads?
[07:57] <incd> Dr_Willis: unetbootin and ubuntu-10.04-server-amd64.iso
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> progre55:  if you want a 'dock' use 'docky' its the dock of gnome-do split off..
[07:57] <abhijain> geekphreak: i think its a bug
[07:57] <dhruvasagar> raj: this is the wrong place to wait for mint
[07:57] <vivek_> geekphreak:thanks a lot buddy ... and yeas sorry for all the trouble
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> incd:  thats the issue. I dont think the server  works with unetbootin.
[07:57] <millertimek1a2m3> can anyone tell me how to kill NetworkManager and keep it from returning?
[07:57] <carae> no, just software centre, even small downloads
[07:58] <LinuxGuy2009> docky is the bomb!
[07:58] <incd> Dr_Willis: ok thanks
[07:58] <geekphreak> vivek_: no need to be, you did great
[07:58] <XanderX> raj: ATI  comptibility is a real issue, try i Ubuntu 9.10
[07:58] <raj> dhruvasagar,  no1 said anything about waiting .. i have a bug that is annoying me.
[07:58] <progre55> Dr_Willis: awesome, thanks
[07:58] <Caesi> Hi! I have Ubuntu 10.04 - where in Compiz can I activate the functiont hat scrolling the mouse on my desktop will switch workplaces? Thanks!
[07:58] <PythonPup> millertimek1a2m3, uncheck it in startup applications.
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> incd:  at least ive herd of it not working befor. its possible there may be a way to get it going.. but ive never looked into it
[07:58] <ravenkhan> can anyone tell how can i upgrade from .iso of 10.04 from 9.10
[07:58] <millertimek1a2m3> ok
[07:58] <raj> XanderX,  its nvidia and card work great
[07:58] <vivek_> geekphreak:lol.. sounds good.. bye take care
[07:58] <ravenkhan> can anyone tell how can i upgrade from .iso of 10.04 from 9.10 without losing my any settings or stuff
[07:58] <h00k> !upgrade | ravenkhan
[07:58] <Fireking300> ravenkhan, why not just download new ISO?
[07:58] <carae> downloaded opera using firefox, no problem.
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> ravenkhan:  i belive if you have the alt-installer iso - you can mount it.. and upgrade from it. but ive never done so.
[07:59] <raj> dhruvasagar,  untill mint comes out im on ubuntu
[07:59] <abhijain> geekphreak: i need java and tomcat installation asap .
[07:59] <Sami345> hi
[07:59] <ravenkhan> Fireking300: yeah i have see my question
[07:59] <XanderX> raj: Ubuntu 9.10 works great; got to try it.
[07:59] <dhruvasagar> raj: suit yourself
[07:59] <Sami345> Anyone has idea why bash reponses to my key presses so slow?
[07:59] <Fireking300> ravenkhan, then you phrased your question wrong.
[07:59] <maco> carae: and if you use "sudo apt-get install packagename" instead of the software centre?
[07:59] <winXPuser> Sami345 your ram & cpu?
[07:59] <rbutler> Can someone who sees the volume control bottom on his top panel tell me what the related process is called?
[07:59] <Sami345> CPU dual core 3.20 GHz
[08:00] <abhijain> geekphreak: ping
[08:00] <Sami345> RAM 4 Gt 1066 MHz
[08:00] <h00k> rbutler: it's in the Indicator Applet
how do i use that
[08:00] <ravenkhan> Fireking300: i said can any1 tell how to upgrade from .iso of 10.04 in 9.10 system. GOT?
[08:00] <rbutler> Hi h00k, how do I access it? I cannot add it, because it is not listed within the list of applets
[08:01] <maco> carae: applications -> accessories -> terminal  ... type in "sudo apt-get install" and then the name of the package you want to install. for example "sudo apt-get install thunderbird"
[08:01] <dhruvasagar> raj: ever heard of google ?
[08:01] <dhruvasagar> raj: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=1859
[08:01] <dhruvasagar> raj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/42160
[08:01] <ZykoticK9> !google > dhruvasagar
[08:01] <raj> XanderX,  yeah .. sure but i have to compile the new alsa.. then disable the power save option on it to make sound work.. even then i cant play more than 1 source of sound at a time. tried all kinds of fixes with no luck mint works a bit better but same bug. so i was hoping 10.04 would fix that.. and no luck still cNT PLAY FLASH ON FIREFOX WHILE LISTENING TO MUSIC
[08:01] <ravenkhan> dhruvasagar: hahaa lol
[08:01] <carae> cool will try....
[08:01] <Mc-Kay> Hello, I am a little put off reboot after some errors from upgrading to ubuntu 10.04
[08:01] <carae> learning as i go....
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> ravenkhan:  for starters I think you need to have the 'alternative installer iso' not the desktop iso. and I belive you just mount  the iso to some place like /media/cdrom and  start the package manager.
[08:01] <h00k> rbutler: right click of your panel -> add to panel -> Indicator Applet
[08:01] <h00k> rbutler: are you on 10.04?
[08:02] <dhruvasagar> ZykoticK9: well thanks :)
[08:02] <XanderX> raj: Ubuntu 9.10 have you tried before. Y/N
[08:02] <kASPer_58> has anyone got 10.4 to installed on a RAID SCSI.. I get no live available, and it drops into console
[08:02] <kelvinella> raj, try killall pulseaudio may fix the audio problem, at least it works for me here
[08:02] <raj> dhruvasagar,  ive been using linux longer than you have.. dont give an attitude
[08:02] <dhruvasagar> ZykoticK9: but technically I didn't ask him to google, I asked him if he had heard of google
[08:02] <dhruvasagar> raj: what makes you say that ?
[08:02] <raj> XanderX,  yes.. and went with mint 8....
[08:02] <oaky> Hello ppl!!
[08:02] <hsr> I am using Lucid desktop edition, system always checks disk for errors...its really irritating....can anyone help.........
[08:02] <soreau> Caesi: Enable Viewport Switcher plugin in ccsm then set ccsm->Viewport Switcher->Desktop-based Viewport Switching->Move Next/Move Prev to Button4/Button5 respectively
[08:02] <ravenkhan> Dr_Willis: i have .iso of 10.04 desktop and currently using 9.10 in my system.. want to upgrade using that iso
[08:03] <rbutler> h00k Yes, and it seems that I'm not alone with that issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1466400
[08:03] <dhruvasagar> raj: you are the one giving attitude here my friend
[08:03] <Fireking300> ravenkhan, you need to phrase it. "How do I upgrade my Operating system of 9.10 Ubuntu to 10.04 Ubuntu using the CD I burned the ISO to.)
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> ravenkhan:  i do NOT think the desktop cd iso can do that.
[08:03] <Fireking300> "
[08:03] <dhruvasagar> raj: you need to seriously check yourself first
[08:03] <Sami345> Does it help if I buy a new keuboard? xD
[08:03] <greezmunkey> I pasted some errors in here on release day, things were pretty chaotic... The errors are related to evince. I did install adobe 9 reader prior to upgrading, so I'm unsure if the upgrade is really the culprit. If I want to resolve the dependencies of evince, should I purge and then reinstall? Or is there a better way?
[08:03] <h00k> dhruvasagar, ravenkhan: both of you, chill, please
[08:03] <abhijain> geekphreak: ping
[08:03] <PythonPup> hsr, You may not be shutting down properly.  That is normally why it checks.
[08:03] <Sami345> Some USB-model
[08:03] <XanderX> raj: MINT is not in the list of discussion; unable to comply to that.
[08:03] <raj> XanderX,  9.10 was okay. but mint really worked better on my laptop...
[08:03] <dhruvasagar> h00k: well alright
[08:03] <TimothyTimbers> Orca will not read the text I highlight in adobe reader or in the default document viewer
[08:03] <ravenkhan> Fireking300: i also wrote same thing. there are 100 ways to say a line
[08:04] <hsr> PythonPup: ther is no such problem, it does shutdown properly
[08:04] <raj> dhruvasagar,  no im not im stating my problems / fact .. your just a diehard ubuntu fan
[08:04] <h00k> raj: What kind of motherboard do you have?
[08:04] <ravenkhan> h00k: whats wrong?
[08:04] <dhruvasagar> raj: it is not a fact that MINT is better than Ubuntu, it is merely your opinion
[08:04] <h00k> ravenkhan: hrm?
[08:04] <geekphreak> abhijain: ping?
[08:04] <vishalparkar> pl explain the command    rename 's/\.bak$//' *.bak
[08:04] <kelvinella> raj, how good is mint compare to ubuntu?
[08:04] <dhruvasagar> raj: Please check yourself first
[08:04] <ravenkhan> h00k: what?
[08:04] <kelvinella> raj, never try mint b4
[08:04] <TimothyTimbers> How do I get orca to read pdf documents?
[08:04] <abhijain> geekphreak: now what to do
[08:05] <maco> raj: try using swfdec instead of adobe flash. nothing ubuntu devs can do about adobe devs doing things in silly ways
[08:05] <Sami345> installed new keyboard
[08:05] <abhijain> geekphreak: need to reintall ubuntu ??
[08:05] <Sami345> trying reboot to ubuntu*
[08:05] <h00k> !ot | kelvinella, raj and Mint discission
[08:05] <maco> raj: if adobe flash was open source, it might have a chance of being fixed, but it's not, so try using something that's actually fixable when it breaks
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> vishalparkar:  looks like its trying to rename some files like 'foo' to 'foo.bak' but  i rarely use rename.
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> vishalparkar:  make a test dir. with some test files and  try it in that dir and see what it does
[08:05] <PythonPup> hsr, You say it shuts down properly and you may think that.  But, it probably is not.  The check only happens for two reasons.  One, is the disk was not marked as having been shut down properly.  Second is after a configurable number of boots, it checks.  This number is usually 30 boots.(Maybe 40, that's from memory)
[08:06] <kASPer_58> Newbie needing some help with installing Ubuntu
[08:06] <raj> kelvinella,  ubuntu is always buggy im my opinion. either sound / video or both some bug is always present. mint just fixes it thats all .. im just trying out 10.04.. and now the bug of restart/shutdown is just a huge turn off.
[08:06] <maco> kASPer_58: where are you getting stuck?
[08:06] <carae> maco... seems to be working but do you know why problem occurs
[08:06] <geekphreak> abhijain: no yaar
[08:06] <UbuN2> u know mint it is based on ubuntu ?
[08:06] <arand> vishalparkar: Removes all .bak endings for files in the current directory
[08:06] <dhruvasagar> h00k: this raj doesn't seem to budge, he is yapping only about MINT
[08:06] <h00k> raj: If your bug is known and reported, there is nothing more we can do to help.
[08:06] <maco> carae: no i dont know why but now you have an extra data point to add in when you file a bug about it ;-)
[08:07] <abhijain> geekphreak: den
[08:07] <kASPer_58> maco installing 10.4 to a proliand.. states there is no Live and drops to console
[08:07] <maco> kASPer_58: proliand? is that a brand of computer? and what do you mean "no Live"?
[08:07] <h00k> dhruvasagar: I'm aware
[08:07] <raj> maco,  yeah ... i didnt mention flash... did you hear about the new default open java? it really sucks had to add repo and get sun java 6
[08:07] <maco> !mint | UbuN2
[08:07] <geekphreak> abhijain: try suing dpkg
[08:07] <geekphreak> using*
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> vishalparkar:  ive seen dosens of scripts/commands/alias/tools to rename .html to .htm its a common task  one EASY/gui way to do it.. use 'rox-filer' and its 'rename' feature has a bulk rename tool that defaults to that extension
[08:07] <maco> raj: you did mention flash. you said you couldnt use flash and music player simultaneously.
[08:07] <UbuN2> i know about mint
[08:08] <kelvinella> open java is a joke, i immediately install sun java after
[08:08] <debiant2> hello all
[08:08] <maco> openjdk is certified by sun as being compatible...
[08:08] <PythonPup> open java is the only one worth using.
[08:08] <maco> (also, works fine for me, but meh ymmv)
[08:08] <debiant2> I have aquestion regarding lucid on a mac powerbook g4
[08:08] <UbuN2> im not asking for help fot it
[08:08] <vishalparkar> Dr_Willis: Is it a package?
[08:08] <raj> dhruvasagar,  wow your a dir hard fan boy!!! i am not yapping i said what bugs i have... now go and help someone else if you cant help me
[08:08] <[Screamo]> Hey Dr_Willis, can you help m real quick?
[08:08] <kelvinella> u cant upload files in facebook with open java, u have to use sun java
[08:08] <UbuN2> im stating the fact it based on ubuntu
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> !info rox-filer | vishalparkar
[08:08] <XanderX> kASPer_58: Ubutu is always two clicks away to install so user frendly..
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> [Screamo]:  and the issue is?
[08:08] <Demon002> @anyone not busy. I recently installed Ubuntu on a Sony Vaio VGN-FZ260E via flash drive and unetbootin. The Factory OS is gone. I did a FTP install and now when Ubuntu trys to boot, it just leaves me with a flashing curser. Something I noticed though was that the SATA drive was recognized as a IDE now. Any help is apreciated :)
[08:09] <dhruvasagar> raj: you already have been told that if the bug you mention has already been raised there is nothing that we can do about you.
[08:09] <debiant2> I am trying a clean install but it keeps failing on select and install software
[08:09] <dhruvasagar> raj: and yes I will
[08:09] <[Screamo]> Dr_Willis,  fstab
[08:09] <PythonPup> kelvinella, you say that as if it is a bad thing.  If it bothers you, get facebook to fix it.
[08:09] <TimothyTimbers> PLz help. I am legally in need of accessibility . orca will not read pdf files for me
[08:09] <raj> maco,  yeah it was from pulseaudio... it works when i take it off but i lose alot of things .. ubuntu is just TOOO dependent on pulseaudio
[08:09] <Flannel> UbuN2: That discussion is offtopic for this channel, this channel is for support.  Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[08:09] <dhruvasagar> raj: I have no shame in admitting that I am a die hard ubuntu fanboy
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> [Screamo]:  you can be a little more verbose.. no need to split thins into 2 words or less..
[08:09] <kelvinella> PythonPup, not just facebook, among other websites too
[08:09] <UbuN2> :)
[08:09] <[Screamo]> Can we take this to pm?
[08:10] <debiant2> it seems like I had a similar problem with karmic but I can't remember how I fixed it
[08:10] <h00k> !pm | [Screamo]
[08:10] <maco> raj: its actually not very dependent upon it.  kubuntu and xubuntu don't include pulse at all.
[08:10] <abhijain> geekphreak: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[08:10] <Minger> my /home dir = 2.8 GB and my user dir /home/xman is ~ 2.8 GB. i'm running out of space. how do i increase this limit?  i don't see any quotas in place.
[08:10] <geekphreak> abhijain: again ?
[08:10] <[Screamo]> Maybe i dont wan to ask it in the channel, and i asked his permission......
[08:10] <Flannel> kelvinella: That's odd, because one would think that an officially certified java would work whereever java works.  I guess "official" doesn't really mean much of anything
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> [Screamo]:  its possible i may have leave at any time. so its best to keep  it in here.
[08:10] <geekphreak> abhijain: how many apps you   got running there?
[08:10] <[Screamo]> meh
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> [Screamo]:  im here/gone/back all day long.
[08:10] <progre55> hey people, still, the wallpaper that is shown after the grub menu, before the login screen is really bad quality (low resolution). Any fixes, please?
[08:11] <Caesi> Thanks very much soreau - The info Button 4 & 5 was what I was looking for :)
[08:11] <h00k> progre55: are you using proprietary drivers?
[08:11] <debiant2> is anyone running lucid on a mac?
[08:11] <raj> maco,  gnome is wrpped around pulseaudio try taking it off. you wont have volume you lose your volume controls on your keyboard you lose abiliity to edit videos and music
[08:11] <debiant2> ppc
[08:11] <maco> carae: can you file a bug? run "ubuntu-bug software-center" in a terminal and itll collect info and take you to a website called launchpad.net which is where ubuntu's bug tracking happens. make sure you include the fact that apt-get on its own works fine
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> progre55:  thats part of the Plymouth stuff. and it seems to depend on the video card for me. some times it uses a 16 color image. :(
[08:11] <TimothyTimbers> plz help i am sick and may not live much longer. all i want to do is be able to hear this letter file that was sent to me. but orca won't do it for me
[08:11] <progre55> h00k: yep
[08:11] <maco> raj: that's a gnome decision
[08:11] <PythonPup> Minger, use lvm to add some spare drive space to the /home logical volume.  That's what I would do.  Your solution may be different, depending on your setup.
[08:11] <maco> raj: its a decision gnome made over 2 years ago
[08:12] <[Screamo]> i still cant get the syntax down for Fstab, i did the ntfs-config tool thing, but now i need to do the ext4
[08:12] <kASPer_58> maco: Do you know what alternative Ubuntu supports RAID
[08:12] <progre55> Dr_Willis: yeah, and it looks awful
[08:12] <h00k> progre55: Yeah, mine looks terrible, too. I think they know about it. Nouveau looks great, though.
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> [Screamo]:  basics   are  /dev/device /media/MOUNTPOINT  ext4  defaults 0 0
[08:12] <progre55> h00k: Nouveau? what's that? )
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> [Screamo]:  you could use the UUID= type naming instead of /dev/device
[08:12] <h00k> !nouveau | progre55
[08:12] <maco> kASPer_58: there are two main cd types. one is "desktop" (the live cd) the other is "alternate" which uses a text-based installer (tab, space, enter etc to choose things)
[08:12] <[Screamo]> heres the output of blkid for the dirve im wanting to mount : /dev/sdb1: UUID="91a46e4b-4651-4b1d-a2a1-2c0e833c555e" TYPE="ext4"
[08:12] <abhijain> geekphreak: and now sudo apt-get -f install gave output   Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:12] <abhijain> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:13]  * geekphreak wonders why splash screen cant look like  salma hayek always :(
[08:13] <LinuxGuy2009> !botsnack
[08:13] <h00k> progre55: it is what you use when you remove the proprietary driver
[08:13] <maco> kASPer_58: the alternate cd should be offered on teh same page as the desktop one
[08:13] <Demon002> @anyone not busy. I recently installed Ubuntu on a Sony Vaio VGN-FZ260E via flash drive and unetbootin. The Factory OS is gone. I did a FTP install and now when Ubuntu trys to boot, it just leaves me with a flashing curser. Something I noticed though was that the SATA drive was recognized as a IDE now. Any help is apreciated :)
[08:13] <maco> abhijain: do you have a synaptic open? if so, close it
[08:13] <abhijain> maco: unable to close
[08:13] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: only one application can get a lock on the dpkg at a time
[08:13] <maco> abhijain: unable? why?
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> [Screamo]:  so cut/paste the line in the fstab you have for the '/' partition. and change the UUID and Mountpoint.
[08:13] <progre55> h00k: oh I see
[08:13] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: if it gives you that error then it implies that something else has a lock
[08:13] <donri> Usb creator fails, is there any .img for Lucid desktop that I can just dd?
[08:13] <abhijain> maco: due to synapttic manager
[08:14] <progre55> h00k: but would it work with ATI radeon?
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> [Screamo]:  UUID=######## /media/whatever ext4 errors=remount-ro   0  1
[08:14] <h00k> progre55: ah, no
[08:14] <maco> abhijain: why cant you close synaptic?
[08:14] <shazbotmcnasty> mocp for some reason automatically restarts the song about 1/3rd way through the first listening of the song, then it plays through and goes to the next
[08:14] <progre55> h00k: sux then )
[08:14] <donri> Or can I dd an .iso somehow?
[08:14] <shazbotmcnasty> but it happens on every track
[08:14] <PythonPup> TimothyTimbers, I can try to help you, but not tonight.  I'd have to setup orca on a system and experiment a bit.  I'll do it, just not tonight.  I have a computer show in the morning and I need to go home.
[08:14] <maco> abhijain: you're getting that error because synaptic is running while you try to install stuff elsewhere. you can only use one at a time
[08:14] <LinuxGuy2009> donri: did you blank the drive?
[08:14] <shazbotmcnasty> donri, you can dd an iso
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> donri:  theres some iso's for some disrots (not ubuntu) you can dd to flash drives and they work.. not sure how they are manageing that trick
[08:14] <abhijain> maco: sudo kill all
[08:14] <abhijain> ??
[08:14] <TimothyTimbers> thanks for the thought pythonpup
[08:14] <dhruvasagar> TimothyTimbers: there are other text-to-speech engines available in the repos, have you tried any others ?
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> donri:  but this does not work for Ubuntu as far as i know.
[08:15] <donri> LinuxGuy2009, What do you mean?
[08:15] <Demon002> So USB install is a no-go?
[08:15] <abhijain> maco: how to close synaptic
[08:15] <LinuxGuy2009> !unetbootin
[08:15] <maco> abhijain: click the X?
[08:15] <donri> shazbotmcnasty, Do you mean I can dd lucid.iso /dev/usbdevice?
[08:15] <carae> maco, it says it can't connect to my server! network error!
[08:15] <shazbotmcnasty> donri, I've done just that before and it's worked fine.
[08:15] <shazbotmcnasty> so yes.
[08:15] <shazbotmcnasty> That IS what I'm saying
[08:15] <alpaka> How do I specify a repository for "apt-get update"?
[08:15] <LinuxGuy2009> donri:  if the ubuntu usb creator fails then just use unetbootin
[08:15] <maco> carae: retry? launchpad appears to be up
[08:15] <abhijain> maco: a red symbol created on my pannel for update manage and now also unable to close
[08:15] <sain> How do i open "Nautilus" in terminal?
[08:16] <donri> shazbotmcnasty, You sure that wasn't a netbook.img?
[08:16] <PythonPup> Dr_Willis, They store the boot image on the CD, instead of an iso9660 boot image, which is something different.  It is not that tricky and Ubuntu does it too.
[08:16] <alpaka> sain: nautilus &
[08:16] <maco> abhijain: the one that tells you to install updates?
[08:16] <h00k> alpaka: System -> Administration -> Update Manager
[08:16] <kelvinella> for audio fix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[08:16] <alpaka> sain: & is for running in background
[08:16] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: why are you unable to kill synaptic ?
[08:16] <pepee> anyone tried enlightenment?
[08:16] <sain> alpaka thanks
[08:16] <shazbotmcnasty> donri, I don't have any .img's
[08:16] <maco> pepee: yes
[08:16] <shazbotmcnasty> just isos
[08:16] <h00k> alpaka: from there, you can change your repo mirror
[08:16] <pepee> maco, e17?
[08:16] <maco> pepee: though i havent tried it since 2007
[08:16] <Demon002> @Ubottu: Thanks will give it another go :)
[08:16] <alpaka> h00k: thank you
[08:16] <PythonPup> sain, I'd leave out the &, but try it either way.
[08:16] <abhijain> maco: yeah
[08:16] <geekphreak> Dr_Willis: welcome back
[08:16] <pepee> oh, ok
[08:16] <maco> pepee: yep i compiled e17 on debian etch in july 2007
[08:16] <arand> TimothyTimbers: spd-say is available by default   e.g. "echo hello there | spd-say -e"   then maybe use pdf2text or somthing to get the text an pipe it.
[08:16] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: btw if you are unable to figure out what to do, you should restart the system perhaps
[08:16] <h00k> ubottu: tell Demon002 about tab
[08:16] <XanderX> pepee : whats that ?
[08:17] <ravenkhan> Dr_Willis: welcome back
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> geekphreak:  Yep. Dont use /quit when you mean /close :)
[08:17] <h00k> Demon002: that makes replying to people a lot easier :)
[08:17] <pepee> XanderX, a desktop environment
[08:17] <geekphreak> lol
[08:17] <[Screamo]> so: UUID=91a46e4b-4651-4b1d-a2a1-2c0e833c555e /media/Ubuntu ext4 errors=remount-ro   0  1
[08:17] <maco> XanderX: a standalone window manager thats sort of expanding into the desktop environment realm
[08:17] <maco> XanderX: has been in development for aaaaaaages
[08:17] <Demon002> 94SAAHQAT
[08:17] <maco> XanderX: very pretty
[08:17] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: i done it already . the problem is figure our . another synaptic is running in background
[08:17] <shazbotmcnasty> donri, "sudo dd if=/path/to/iso/lucid.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M;sync"
[08:17] <donri> Can I set the cpu frequency [governor] from grub?
[08:17] <PythonPup> pepee, enlightenment is nice.  There is an unofficial respin of ubuntu that uses enlightenment.  It is from italy.
[08:17] <shazbotmcnasty> do that
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> E - the ever evoloving window manager/desktop/whatever it is called this week.
[08:17] <XanderX> pepee : will try it out. thanks
[08:18] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: what did you do already ? did you restart ?
[08:18] <pepee> maco, PythonPup, there's a repo
[08:18] <geekphreak> time to go, cya folks
[08:18] <pepee> http://packages.enlightenment.org/ubuntu/
[08:18] <sain> alpaka. gives"(nautilus:8954): Eel-CRITICAL **: eel_preferences_get_boolean: assertion `preferences_is_initialized ()' failed" and opens file browser
[08:18] <paris> I have download file sampdb into directory Downloads, but now I have to unpack and store in MySQL database. How can I do that?
[08:18] <pepee> gonna try it
[08:18] <maco> pepee: clearly not updated in a while. last theyve got is for 9.04
[08:18] <pepee> maco, nah
[08:18] <Minger> my /home dir = 2.8 GB and my user dir /home/xman is ~ 2.8 GB. i'm running out of space. how do i increase this limit?  i don't see any quotas in place.
[08:18] <pepee> http://packages.enlightenment.org/ubuntu/pool/
[08:18] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: in a terminal execute this command - ps -ef | grep synaptic
[08:19] <sain> where is nautilus launcher located? anyone?
[08:19] <maco> pepee: oh i see. the top half of hte page doenst match the bottom half!
[08:19] <h00k> sain: /usr/bin/nautilus
[08:19] <PythonPup> To really appreciate Enlightenment, you need a well setup enlightenment desktop.  Those packages are a good approach if you want to build your own and already know it somewhat.
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> Minger:   You got /home/ on its own partition?
[08:19] <pepee> sain, alt+f2 type nautilus
[08:19] <LinuxGuy2009> sain open a folder , your in nautilus
[08:19] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: if you see /usr/sbin/synaptic running, then you might want to kill it using the command kill -9 [pid], but please ensure that you aren't already doing something that you don't want to abruptly end synaptic
[08:19] <carae> still not working :(
[08:19] <Demon002> h00k err thanks for the ...tba thing.. i guess
[08:19] <Demon002> tab*
[08:19] <pepee> maco, hehe
[08:20] <maco> Minger: is /home on a separate partition from the rest? youd have to resize the partitions if so
[08:20] <Publicenemy> where can i get iso images?
[08:20] <maco> Publicenemy: which one?
[08:20] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: bhishek@abhishek-laptop:~$ ps -ef | grep synaptic
[08:20] <abhijain> abhishek  4969  4952  0 12:49 pts/3    00:00:00 grep --color=auto synaptic
[08:20] <abhijain> abhishek@abhishek-laptop:~$
[08:20] <winXPuser> ??
[08:20] <maco> abhijain: so its not running. is update-manager, maybe?
[08:20] <Publicenemy> Windows XP PRO i want to run it dual with my ubuntu
[08:20] <maco> abhijain: or software-center?
[08:20] <Publicenemy> ?
[08:20] <abhijain> maco: yeah
[08:21] <sain> i dont have the option to open folder as root. how do i st it up?
[08:21] <winXPuser> !dualboot | Publicenemy
[08:21] <Minger> Dr_Willis, maco, no , home is not on its own partition.
[08:21] <LinuxGuy2009> gksudo nautilus'
[08:21] <Publicenemy> I'm new to linux!
[08:21] <maco> Publicenemy: to get windows xp you go to the store and give them about $300
[08:21] <winXPuser> Publicenemy welcome :)
[08:21] <h00k> Publicenemy: welcome, welcome
[08:21] <Publicenemy> hahaha
[08:21] <maco> Minger: so you're just seeing teh size of the folders being the same and thinking you're out of space?
[08:21] <h00k> maco: you can't even buy it anymore, anyway.
[08:21] <paris> Does anybody know about mysql?
[08:21] <debiant2> anyone running lucid on powerpc?
[08:21] <maco> h00k: hmm good point
[08:21] <winXPuser> !anybody | paris
[08:21] <h00k> !ppc | debiant2
[08:21] <Demon002> Is Ubuntu 9.10 the latest version supported by  USB install o.O
[08:21] <[Screamo]> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[08:21] <[Screamo]> mount: only root can mount /dev/sdb1 on /media/Ubuntu
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> Minger:  then somthing you said is not making sence.
[08:22] <Publicenemy> Software should be free lol
[08:22] <maco> Minger: are you sure its not just telling you how much is *currently* in there?
[08:22] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: did you try and restart your system ?
[08:22] <winXPuser> paris yes I do know mysql if your issue is lnguage related maybe ask in #sql or #mysql
[08:22] <maco> Publicenemy: if you can convince microsoft to relicense windows under the gpl, more power to you
[08:22] <Minger> maco: 2 things, i get warnings about being out of space when i try to create files under /home/xman and disk usage analyzer says /home/xman is ~ the total capacity of /home (red in color)
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> [Screamo]:  does the directory /media/Ubuntu exist? and yes. Root must mount it. try 'sudo mount /media/Ubuntu'
[08:22] <debiant2> eh h00k?
[08:22] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: its already done . i m facing this problem after java installation
[08:22] <maco> Minger: disk usage analyzer colours dont mean anything afaik
[08:22] <debiant2> !ppc
[08:23] <maco> Minger: can you pastebin the output of "df -h"?
[08:23] <[Screamo]> meh
[08:23] <[Screamo]> Thanks Dr_Willis
[08:23] <debiant2> I have a powerbook g4
[08:23] <debiant2> I was running karmic
[08:23] <maco> carae: can you get to http://launchpad.net in your web browser?
[08:23] <[Screamo]> Today was so bad i cant think straight
[08:23] <[Screamo]> :(
[08:23] <Publicenemy> Ubuntu is the current os im using! what is the best linux to date?
[08:23] <Minger> maco: df -h = http://pastebin.com/LJwZprWy
[08:23] <debiant2> upgrade crapped out on me
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> [Screamo]:  go eat some Pie..    I have download file sampdb for mysql which it is in the directory Downloads and from there I have to unpack it and store into mysql database. Can you help me with that PLEASE?
[08:25] <maco> Publicenemy: watch your language
[08:25] <debiant2> minger are you mingin'?
[08:25] <Publicenemy> opps sorry!
[08:26] <Publicenemy> 1st here! sorry
[08:26] <winXPuser> paris, sampdb??
[08:26] <Demon002> Dumb question Whats "Persistance" option in USB installer
[08:26] <debiant2> ha!
[08:26] <maco> Minger: if you want to clear up some space, you can run "sudo apt-get clean" to get rid of old installer files
[08:26] <wichser> ha
[08:26] <paris> winXPuser, Yes!
[08:26] <wichser> mitte mitte
[08:26] <Minger> maco: this is ubuntu on vmware.  the one user dir is almost 100% of the home dir.  can't i increase it?
[08:26] <winXPuser> paris, very specific question, ask it in #mysql, I only know the language syntax a bit
[08:26] <LinuxGuy2009> Kawiii: boot the live cd and you have root privledges. You can copy files or whatever you need to do,
[08:26] <Publicenemy> any sites i can research more and improve my ubuntu 9.10
[08:26] <TimothyTimbers> oh come on guys this is stupid. i am not going to copy and paste paragraphs all day just so the orca can read them back to me in a simple text editor.
[08:26] <tv7497> hello folks ! lucid lynx is working like charm but only one problem ! the splash screen image of ubuntu loading has a resolution of 600 x 400 while my comp has resolution of 1024 ! can anybody help me out
[08:26] <maco> Demon002: lets you save files while on the usb and reboot and have them stay
[08:26] <winXPuser> !ubuntu | Publicenemy
[08:26] <Kawiii> LinuxGuy2009:  I'm currently on the Live CD, however, it says that I do not have permission to access my home folder.
[08:27] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: sudo dpkg --configure -a  and the output is E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource  temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is  another process using it?
[08:27] <h00k> !manual | Publicenemy
[08:27] <maco> Minger: the home dir doesnt have a set size
[08:27] <vishalparkar> I wanto rename *.htm  to *.html
[08:27] <maco> Minger: it grows as its contents growns
[08:27] <wichser> why does ubuntu so porrly support ppc?
[08:27] <maco> *grows
[08:27] <Publicenemy> Sorry! to be full of questions! but ubuntu has impressed my eyes....
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> vishalparkar:  dident like rox-filer eh?
[08:27] <Publicenemy> lol
[08:27] <wichser> that is mierda del caballo
[08:27] <winXPuser> vishalparkar, any problems with it?
[08:27] <h00k> Publicenemy: althouth the Manual was written for 10.04
[08:27] <Demon002> @maco : Purpose of this. Guess i dont grasp the need.
[08:27] <Publicenemy> cool
[08:27] <carae> maco - yes i can
[08:28] <LinuxGuy2009> Kawiii: try gksudo nautilus and browse to home. I dont think that makes any difference though.
[08:28] <Publicenemy> hey what is the alternative for connecting my iphone?
[08:28] <Minger> maco: ok... however i keep seeing warnings when i create files that my storage is maxed out (no more space)
[08:28] <maco> Demon002: because without that option the usb is like a live cd. with it, its like a full installed system on which you can keep your files
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> vishalparkar:  google hit on 'rename htm html' -->  http://tips.webdesign10.com/how-to-bulk-rename-files-in-linux-in-the-terminal
[08:28] <paris> winXPuser, where is it #mysql to ask such question/s?
[08:28] <nomnex> I want to remove old kernel, do I remove both linux-headers-x & linux-image-x or only the headers?
[08:28] <wichser> no tconnecting your iphone
[08:28] <maco> carae: ok try http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+filebug
[08:28] <Publicenemy> Wine is not running  to smooth
[08:28] <jhambo> can amarok do visualizations?
[08:28] <maco> Minger: thats because the virtual hard disk is nearly full
[08:28] <JCDG> hello friens is anybody there?
[08:28] <Publicenemy> can mount device
[08:28] <winXPuser> !es | wichser
[08:28] <h00k> Publicenemy: the best place to ask about Wine is #winehq
[08:28] <wichser> eh?
[08:28] <LinuxGuy2009> nomnex: the computer janitor can see and remove old kernels.
[08:29] <maco> winXPuser: er there was no spanish there...
[08:29] <Demon002> @Macro: Oh right on. So since im trying to install from usb to HDD, this is or isnt nessecary?
[08:29] <abhijain> maco: also unable to quit update manager when i m clicking on partialk upgrade error : Unable to get exclusive lock
[08:29] <abhijain> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first.
[08:29] <maco> Demon002: is not
[08:29] <nomnex> LinuxGuy2009, I am in synaptic
[08:29] <vishalparkar> Dr_Willis: you r really a kind persom
[08:29] <wichser> ubotto i was just messin
[08:29] <Publicenemy> thank h00k
[08:29] <Minger> maco: the pastebin i show says i have 4.3G available under / or 29% left?
[08:29] <maco> abhijain: ps -ef | grep "apt\|dpkg\|software\|update"
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> vishalparkar:  rox-filer has  that renaming 'task' as a default.
[08:29] <bazhang> wichser, take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:29] <LinuxGuy2009> nomnex: then just look at the kernel version number. linux-image-*****
[08:29] <Demon002> @macro : Apreciated. ok back to rtfm :) thanks!
[08:29] <winXPuser> paris, /join #mysql
[08:29] <raj> Minger,  try bleachbit its like ccleaner for linux.. its in the repo .. run it as sudo in terminal
[08:29] <wichser> yes'm
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> vishalparkar:  google is our friend. :)
[08:29] <maco> Minger: possibly a large file that hasnt been flushed to disk yet?
[08:29] <vishalparkar> yes sir
[08:30] <winXPuser> maco, excuse me, I thought "that is mierda del caballo" is spanish
[08:30] <nomnex> LinuxGuy2009, okay, thanks
[08:30] <wichser> wie auch immer
[08:30] <Minger> maco, raj: ok
[08:30] <wichser> hai sou desu yo
[08:30] <maco> winXPuser: ah missed that. just saw a bit about iphones and got confused
[08:30] <Kawiii> LinuxGuy2009:  That was a bit better than navigating there manually - I see this Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop link, but upon clicking it, it tells me that it's untrusted and will not open.
[08:30] <maco> wichser: no japanese either
[08:30] <winXPuser> maco, :)
[08:30] <JCDG> Hello friends, I'm trying to do a live broadcas on ustream but the audio is not sent to the ustream page. Only the video, I'm using webcamstudio
[08:30] <bazhang> wichser, please stop that.
[08:30] <wichser> dang it
[08:30] <wichser> ok
[08:30] <winXPuser> !es | wichser
[08:30] <maco> winXPuser: that time was jp ;-)
[08:30] <paris> winXPuser, can you lead me step by step for that PLEASE!
[08:31] <LinuxGuy2009> !caps
[08:31] <kungfuman> lol
[08:31] <abhijain> maco: apt|dpkg|software|update
[08:32] <winXPuser> paris, have no idea how to do it with your software, very sorry about that, I have experience in running Oracly database..... know the syntax of the language a bit, but no idea about unpackaging things like you ask
[08:32] <gizero> I've tried to switch to the Vesa driver for X, since I get a black screen when I use the Intel driver and fast user switcing. But when I enable Vesa X refuses to start because kernel mode setting is apparently enabled. How do I disable it?
[08:32] <maco> TimothyTimbers: i dont have an answer for you right now, but i know one member of the ubuntu development team depends upon screenreaders to get his work done, so i'll ask him how he reads pdfs and then send you a message through memoserv, k?
[08:32] <tv7497> bazhang: thank god you are here sir ! what was the program name to change the resolution of splash screen sir ?
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> reading through the synaptic package list and its amazing the neat tools you find ---> 'file-browser-applet' can add a dynamic menu to the panel for a given dir. makeing it easy to 'drill down and find things' :)
[08:33] <paris> ubottu, sorry but that English, but I speak more than one language.
[08:33] <TimothyTimbers> ty maco
[08:33] <raj> tv7497,  startup-manager
[08:33] <bazhang> tv7497, I have heard some talk about epidermis, but don't know anything else really
[08:33] <LinuxGuy2009> !botsnack
[08:33] <maco> TimothyTimbers: your nick is registered on the server, right?
[08:33] <petsounds> hi all. i can't update software sources, i try different archieve mirrors but its always said apt-lock. then i try to fix it with  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a   but still the same. what did i missed? thanks
[08:33] <raj> tv7497,  startupmanager
[08:33] <paris> winXPuser, Big thanks for thy help!
[08:34] <JCDG> Hello friends, I'm trying to do a live broadcas on ustream but the audio is not sent to the ustream page. Only the video, I'm using webcamstudio any help?...
[08:34] <tv7497> raj thanks :)
[08:34] <raj> tv7497,  np yw
[08:34] <winXPuser> ??
[08:34] <randal> Hi i need some help. I want to make this command run when i log in and loop "sudo wminput" is there anyways to do this
[08:35] <raj> tv7497,  run it in the terminal as gksudo startupmanager     ...after you install
[08:35] <LinuxGuy2009> randal: simple bash script
[08:35] <Penol> How to run fortune | cowsay -n -f tux.cow as the motd?
[08:35] <winXPuser> !bash > winXPuser
[08:35] <randal> LinuxGuy2009, can you write a script that would work and tell me how to make it run when i log in
[08:35] <Demon002> @macro: Um, I want to make sure I'm attempting what i want to do. I want to install UBUNTU on my laptop SATA HDD via USB. I'm following these http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-ubuntu-9-10-live-usb-in-windows/ instructions
[08:36] <TimothyTimbers> maco, on the ubuntu one serveR?
[08:36] <tv7497> raj :D  i know how to use it mate  ! any way thanks :D :D
[08:36] <maco> TimothyTimbers: the irc server
[08:36] <LinuxGuy2009> randal: google and youtube have many great tutorials for learning the command line and bash scripting. Lots of info out there.
[08:36] <randal> LinuxGuy2009, im guesing write a script then put it in startup applications right
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> Penol:  use the /etc/rc.local to generate a new motd. but that will only work on every reboot.
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> Penol:  otherwise use a cronjob.
[08:36] <randal> LinuxGuy2009, do you know how do do it i just want to get this done with
[08:37] <LinuxGuy2009> randal: no i dont offhand
[08:37] <randal> LinuxGuy2009, k thanks
[08:37] <JeLyse> er irc.chatelsitio.com.ar
[08:37] <maco> TimothyTimbers: ok nickserv says no. either register with nickserv so i can send you a message through irc's equivalent of voicemail or PM me your email address
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> Penol:  you may want to limit fortune to shorter fortunes also. or otherwise tweak them . otherwise the cow can look ugly
[08:37] <LinuxGuy2009> randal: google for bash script looping
[08:37] <sain> Please help. Brasero does not recognize external dvd burner.
[08:37] <maco> TimothyTimbers: irc has this thing called memoserv that's like an answering machine for irc
[08:37] <randal> LinuxGuy2009, k
[08:38] <maco> TimothyTimbers: well at least /this/ irc server does ;-)
[08:38] <winXPuser> yes
[08:38] <sarkar> fdf
[08:38] <winXPuser> TimothyTimbers /msg memoserv help send
[08:38] <paris> winXPuser, what is the difference between mysql and oracle?
[08:39] <MrNaz> whats this i hear about a fault with the original final release and having the iso remade ?
[08:39] <bazhang> MrNaz, fixed before release
[08:39] <maco> MrNaz: a bug was fixed last minute before release
[08:39] <MrNaz> aah ok
[08:39] <MrNaz> so the final iso i downloaded is fine ?
[08:39] <bazhang> yes
[08:40] <MrNaz> good, coz i'm about to install it
[08:40] <MrNaz> thanks
[08:40] <winXPuser> paris, mysql is a language you write quesries for a database in; oracle is the company that makes database software; once I downloaded and installed oracle I created new database via a "create table tablename(srguments)" and went to go go, filled it in, etc
[08:40] <winXPuser> !oracle
[08:40] <winXPuser> !mysql
[08:40] <MrNaz> winXPuser / paris mysql is NOT a language
[08:40] <winXPuser> ??
[08:40] <xiambax> New release is sick. Are people still having glx issues with ati cards
[08:40] <TimothyTimbers> ok
[08:40] <maco> winXPuser: the language is SQL
[08:40] <MrNaz> winXPuser mysql is a database system. SQL is the language
[08:41] <TimothyTimbers> i am verified
[08:41] <maco> winXPuser: mysql is a specific database implementation
[08:41] <acces> excuse me.. how can i move a window ando go to second virtual desktop ? ubuntu 10.04
[08:41] <maco> winXPuser: as are oracle and postgresql and microsoft sql server
[08:41] <MrNaz> winXPuser mysql is a database system just like oracle's products
[08:41] <xiambax> As anyone seen this pro facebook add for mysql
[08:41] <Penol> Dr_Willis: how do i limit it?
[08:41] <winXPuser> MrNaz, maco, then I know SQL language & Orcaale database system.thatis, I have no idea about mysql database system, I suppose
[08:41] <winXPuser> paris ^
[08:41] <xiambax> Apparently facebook is contributing to speed enhancements
[08:41] <TimothyTimbers> maco, you should be able to do that message thing
[08:41] <paris> MrNaz, but I would like to learn  mysql and I need some help in that.
[08:42] <maco> TimothyTimbers: ok when i hear back i'll send a message with memoserv to you and then when you connect to irc memoserv will tell you that you have a message and how to retrieve it
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> Penol:  check the fortune command options. it has options
[08:42] <frybye> acces: my pers. tip would be to install+configure compiz fusion - i found infos on how to do with google...
[08:42] <LinuxGuy2009> acces: right click a window and move to desktop#, change desktops with the destop switcher applet on bottom right.
[08:42] <CytotoxicTCell> do i need swap with 4GB ram?
[08:42] <xiambax> 4?
[08:42] <ViperBorg> Nope.
[08:42] <ViperBorg> I wouldn't.
[08:42] <maco> MrNaz: though in fairness to winXPuser, mysql has some somewhat non-standard extra features on top of regular sql
[08:42] <xiambax> Its always good to have swap
[08:43] <maco> CytotoxicTCell: if you want to hibernate, yes
[08:43] <CytotoxicTCell> What if i want to hibernate?
[08:43] <CytotoxicTCell> oh
[08:43] <LinuxGuy2009> CytotoxicTCell: hibernate needs swap
[08:43] <xiambax> My rule has always have double the swap for ram
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> CytotoxicTCell:  You using hibernate/suspend?  If so yes.. 4gb suggested.. if not.. proberly no.. but i always put 512mb swap on every machine - just in case
[08:43] <ViperBorg> Well, hibernate, then yes.
[08:43] <maco> xiambax: ditto
[08:43] <xiambax> Unless its over 8 gigs
[08:43] <CytotoxicTCell> dam
[08:43] <xiambax> But its always good
[08:43] <CytotoxicTCell> hibernate works ok on laptops right?
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> I keep a litlte swap on all HD's - becuse if nothing else.. Live cd's may use it :) when i am reovering things
[08:43] <maco> CytotoxicTCell: the swap space has to be large enough to hold everything thats in ram in order to hibernate
[08:43] <LinuxGuy2009> why would 8gb not need swap for hibernate?
[08:43] <xiambax> Back in my day. When i had 12 mb of ram running redhat 6
[08:43] <maco> CytotoxicTCell: yes it works fine on all my laptops
[08:43] <xiambax> and slack 9
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> CytotoxicTCell:  ive had mixxed refults with hibernate
[08:43] <maco> LinuxGuy2009: it would
[08:44] <CytotoxicTCell> you need it for suspend to?
[08:44] <LinuxGuy2009> exactly
[08:44] <maco> LinuxGuy2009: xiambax was saying they dont do RAM*2 = swap if RAM >= 8GB
[08:44] <LinuxGuy2009> suspend i dought
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> !info doc-central
[08:44] <LinuxGuy2009> doubt
[08:44] <maco> CytotoxicTCell: no i dont think so
[08:44] <CytotoxicTCell> ok =)
[08:44] <maco> CytotoxicTCell: because suspend keeps things in memory. since hibernate goes to disk, it requires swap
[08:44] <CytotoxicTCell> o
[08:44] <shiki-> hi everyone
[08:44] <LinuxGuy2009> maco: i see
[08:44] <zipper> ola
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> Gotta find the docs for doc-central :)
[08:44] <zipper> need help in something
[08:44] <Gatton> salut
[08:44] <maco> CytotoxicTCell: though i really do need to point out that with 4GB of RAM i /do/ frequently have my system swapping
[08:44] <zipper> just dragged out my music folder
[08:44] <shiki-> !channels
[08:44] <xiambax> I just got a i7 iMac and 8Gigs of ram
[08:45] <xiambax> Me = HELLA STOKED
[08:45] <zipper> tot its a copy of it
[08:45] <zipper> then i went to delete it
[08:45] <CytotoxicTCell> i had windows 7 and that was swapping all the time
[08:45] <maco> CytotoxicTCell: 100-120 firefox tabs using 1.2GB of RAM certainly contributes to that though :P
[08:45] <zipper> and the music file gone
[08:45] <shiki-> where can I get help with building packages?   (so dev support, though not -dev)
[08:45] <CytotoxicTCell> i have 4GB in 32bit mode
[08:45] <zipper> how do i get rid of the original music folder on screen?
[08:45] <maco> shiki-: #ubuntu-packaging
[08:45] <shiki-> ty
[08:45] <LinuxGuy2009> windows is a resource hog
[08:45] <CytotoxicTCell> i have the PAE kernel
[08:46] <zipper> any1 able to assist?
[08:46] <prive_> Bjour
[08:46] <CytotoxicTCell> Windows 7 is just windows vista with a new look
[08:46] <Gatton> xiambax, sweet. was it a zillion dollars? that 27" is nice
[08:46] <kraftwerk_> whats goin on?
[08:46] <xiambax> Gatton, 2 Grand. Referb
[08:46] <prive_> qlq  px m aide
[08:46] <paris> maco, right click on the file and delete it.
[08:46] <xiambax> If it breaks I can replace every part under warranty if i wanted
[08:46] <maco> paris: i didnt ask anything...
[08:46] <CytotoxicTCell> anyway i only have 2 hours of sleep than i have to get up and go on the 6:50AM train =(
[08:46] <xiambax> So Im down
[08:46] <CytotoxicTCell> bye
[08:46] <zipper> i went to drag my music folder onto the screen now i wanna get rid of it but can't cause it will delete the files together how?
[08:46] <xiambax> Ill probably run mac os x
[08:46] <prive_> comment je px insataller Adobe Flash Player
[08:47] <paris> maco. sorry for that.
[08:47] <Gatton> !fr
[08:47] <xiambax> and the use parrallels to virtualize ubuntu and openbsd and some other centos based distros
[08:47] <om26er> !resetpanels
[08:47] <xiambax> All my amd servers run ubuntu
[08:47] <xiambax> I have about 4
[08:47] <Gatton> serving up what?
[08:47] <zipper> any1 able to assist me
[08:47] <bazhang> xiambax, was there a support question in there?
[08:47] <LinuxGuy2009> pron
[08:48] <Gatton> lol
[08:48] <kraftwerk_> were here to assist
[08:48] <Gatton> i want an account on xiambax servers then ;)
[08:48] <xiambax> No shell for you.
[08:48] <Gatton> booh :(
[08:48] <Gatton> and i didn't get my bread
[08:48] <prive_> il y qlq'un
[08:48] <bazhang> prive_, english here french in #ubuntu-fr
[08:49] <kraftwerk_> looks like elf speak
[08:49] <prive_> j ameria savoir comment installer<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:49] <xiambax> vpn over ipv6 only!
[08:49] <LinuxGuy2009> lol @ elf speak
[08:49] <zipper> ANY1 ABLE TO ASSIST ME NEED HELP BADLY
[08:49] <prive_> j aimeria savoir comment installer ubuntu svp VAdobe Flash Player
[08:49] <LinuxGuy2009> !ask
[08:50] <bazhang> prive_, please speak english here
[08:50] <xiambax> quantum crypto is da shit
[08:50] <bazhang> !ot > xiambax
[08:50] <acces> thabks
[08:50] <kraftwerk_> costco hot dog and soda for a buck fifty?
[08:51] <xiambax> GTFOz. Shall part like the seas moses
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> Hmm 'doc-central' is a neat idea. a web based documention server for your machine. But seems to be a bug in the packageing.
[08:51] <prive_> how to installer adobe flash player
[08:51] <bazhang> !flash | prive_
[08:51] <theadmin> prive_: Go to terminal, run this: "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> prive_:  thers a flash-installer package you install
[08:52] <efuse> have you guys paid your sco licensing fees?
[08:52] <efuse> everyone in here, answer
[08:52] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: err, flashplugin-installer
[08:52] <theadmin> efuse: ...what.
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> efuse:   I bought sco with my lunchmoney
[08:52] <efuse> time to pay up!
[08:52] <efuse> sco wants their monnnney
[08:52] <theadmin> What the heck is going on o_O
[08:53] <theadmin> What talks about money can there be in a Linux channel?
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  trolls came out.
[08:53] <hatake_kakashi> !offtopic | efuse
[08:53] <sain> does any one think the jump to LUCID from KARMIC is worth it?