[08:36] <Faentur> T0uCH, It looks like it's main.  Maybe because I already have it installed.  In symantic, go to Settings->Repositories and tell me if you've got them all checked on (Main, Multiverse, Universe, and Restricted)
[08:36] <MindOfChaos> yay so
[08:37] <hanzomon4> mwe: I turned it off
[08:37] <MindOfChaos> Ubuntu 7.04 actually works with my computer
[08:37] <Parmenion> lol
[08:37] <ceil420> xSUSHix, i already have the "nvidia" driver selected in xorg.conf. should i do the md5sum update command thing?
[08:37] <MindOfChaos> First linux that has been able to run this computer
[08:37] <mwe> xSUSHix: yeah. I didn't change anything. did you poke about in the menus?
[08:37] <crdlb> ceil420, this is kind of a longshot but try this: sudo lrm-manager
[08:37] <MindOfChaos> No Kernel panic or any thing :D
[08:37] <T0uCH> Faentur:  ok
[08:38] <denis> HI Guys as a newby to Ubuntu 7.04, I have installed avg from their web site ( avg75fld-r45-a0973.i386.deb, it installed automatically, however it wont update says I havent permissiomn, and doesnt auto start, if I start it manually its in tha accessories folder it seems to run ok, any ideas how to get it to update and self start on boot up?
[08:38] <hanzomon4> I've been updating sense dapper, so I don't remember :-P
[08:38] <ceil420> crdlb, cursor went to new line for a few seconds, then i got prompt again. no output
[08:38] <GuHHH> can anyone help me installing php5 module on apache 1.3 (ubuntu feist)
[08:38] <platman> denis: you do not need an antivirus
[08:38] <T0uCH> Faentur:  yes they are all check
[08:38] <crdlb> ceil420, that's supposed to set up the modules
[08:38] <ceil420> crdlb, am i supposed to see anything if it does so? :x
[08:38] <crdlb> ceil420, no, try rebooting now
[08:38] <denis> why not platman
[08:39] <mwe> sluimers: yeah. it seems to be broken. it can't stop or start /etc/init.d/vmware-player. hmm
[08:39] <sebusssss> #ubuntu-pl
[08:39] <xSUSHix> mwe yea theres nothing about it in gconf-editor either - but im sure theres a way to disable it =\
[08:39] <crdlb> I remember seeing it work on the forums once
[08:39] <platman> denis: you will not get any viruses. all the viruses in the wild are mostly windows viruses
[08:39] <ceil420> crdlb, heh k, brb
[08:39] <mwe> xSUSHix: you're probably right
[08:40] <denis> platman ok as a windows long time user that makes me nervous
[08:40] <platman> denis: former windows users are obsessed with anti-virus
[08:40] <platman> just let it go and enjoy the extra ram
[08:40] <bullgard4> mwe: How can I add the mirror http://seveas.imbrandon.com/ feisty-seveas list_of_sections  as a repository in my Synaptic?
[08:40] <mwe> sluimers: can you pastebin the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/vmware*.postrm ?
[08:40] <sluimers> mwe, errr... I can't find a vmware-player in /etc/init.d/
[08:41] <mwe> bullgard4: I think the page tells you, not?
[08:41] <T0uCH> Faentur:  ?
[08:41] <denis> platman yes and I know why, do I not need anti spyware neither
[08:41] <mwe> sluimers: install again. then remove it I guess
[08:41] <platman> denis: nope
[08:41] <bullgard4> mwe: Probably yes, but I did not understand.
[08:41] <tolonuga> anyone using xen here on feisty? I got xen with the ubuntu xen kernel to work as xen0, but for xen-U it fails (my older self compiled xen 3.0.2 / 2.6.16 works however). anyone else seeing these problems too?
[08:42] <denis> platman, ok I will uninstall the avg then thanks for the info
[08:42] <sluimers> mwe, I'll send you the errors I get when reinstalling ^_^
[08:42] <platman> denis: no prob. just enjoy USING your computer, not maintaining it
[08:42] <Flannel> lgc: yes
[08:42] <denis> platman ok thanks for that
[08:43] <Parmenion> um, but honestly, how often does malware get written for linux ?
[08:43] <xSUSHix> you mean you can use computers for things ?
[08:43] <lgc> Flannel, sorry, yes what?
[08:43] <Flannel> lgc: yes if it's in synaptic, you used package management, and removing it should remove whatever that package installed
[08:43] <Parmenion> is there actually any point of running a anti virus suite on linux ?
[08:43] <T0uCH> Faentur:  i had install nvidia kernel source.. for the others its written nvidia new or nvidia legacy
[08:44] <platman> parmenion: only one. you can still send and receive viruses, they just cant run in your system
[08:44] <platman> so you can infect all of your windows friends
[08:44] <Flannel> Parmenion: some people do it to scan their incoming email (so they don't propogate viruses), and there (can|will|whatever) be viruses on linux, just... not yet
[08:44] <Parmenion> whopee XD platman
[08:44] <sluimers> mwe, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17361/
[08:45] <lgc> Flannel, thanks for answering. I'd forgotten the question. I wonder if other installers can mess with the package liss
[08:45] <Parmenion> Flannel: i agree ... but not many people take advantage of holes in the many email clients
[08:45] <Flannel> lgc: yeah.  apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, adept, dpkg, etc all use the same databaes, which is really the strength of it
[08:46] <platman> flannel: the way i figure is that considering the amount of enterprise servers running linux and no one writes viruses for the,
[08:46] <lgc> Flannel, sorry... list of APT. Because I remember I installed Java from their website.
[08:46] <Parmenion> and the best part is Flannel, that the entire structure is modular compared to window's monolithic
[08:46] <platman> the,* ever wonder why?
[08:46] <eumenides> how do i check which ubuntu version i have?
[08:46] <denis> Platman should I uninstall the firewall as well?
[08:46] <platman> keep the firewall
[08:46] <platman> that's the only one you should keep
[08:46] <denis> platman ok
[08:47] <voyt618> Hi everyone. Does anyone here know how to use dmake? I just compiled a file into dmake and am at a complete loss... I know it's a bit off-topic but i can't find anything *anywhere*.
[08:47] <Flannel> platman: Plenty of people have exploited apache things in the past, because some people don't keep their machines up to date.  Servers are really a different beast from desktops though, since you don't really have users using them, just services.  So you have fewer attack vectors
[08:47] <denis> platman: again though I have to start it manually
[08:47] <ceil420> crdlb, sorry to keep you in suspense; went for a drink and microwaved breakfast in the process :x but same error i got last time; nvidia kernel module version doesn't match x module version
[08:47] <vak> Ubuntu like Debian has unusual init/runlevel ideology. can any1 tell me how to skip booting in X (what i normally would do by setting max runlevel as 3) ?
[08:47] <platman> denis: i dont use any firewalls personally, i only keep pr0n and music on my computer
[08:47] <Flannel> denis: firestarter isn't your firewall.  Your firewall is built into the kernel, firestarter is juts a GUI to configure said firewall
[08:48] <platman> if you have anything of similar importance than what does it really matter?
[08:48] <kraut> moin
[08:48] <Zues_62> does anyone know y ktorrent keeps crashing?
[08:48] <basti> moin
[08:48] <platman> ubuntu's standard firewall policy is "let everything slide"
[08:48] <Parmenion> platman: meaning ?
[08:48] <velko> vak, the default runlevel in debian and ubuntu (with x) is 2
[08:48] <crdlb> ceil420, sorry, envy messed up your setup, but I don't have the slightest idea how to fix it
[08:49] <ceil420> crdlb, thanks for your time :x
[08:49] <platman> parmenion: idk which of my statements you are referencing
[08:49] <Parmenion> ubuntu's standard firewall policy is "let everything slide" platman
[08:49] <vak> velko: right, but how to disable running X in nice way then?
[08:49] <Zues_62> does anyone know?
[08:49] <Flannel> Parmenion: the kernel has the firewall builtin, but there are no rules for it, so it's not doing anything by default.
[08:49] <lgc> Flannel, OK, thanks, man. That should do (for tonight, anyway...:)). But before I go let me ask you one last question: when I type 'apropos <something> I get "gdbm fatal: read error". What could I fiddle with in order to fix that bummer?
[08:49] <platman> there's nothing wrong with loose, that's how i like it
[08:49] <platman> lol
[08:49] <ceil420> does anyone else have any idea how to get the nvidia kernel module version number to match the x module version number?
[08:49] <platman> not really, but yeah
[08:49] <Parmenion> lol alright
[08:49] <velko> vak, rename /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm to /etc/rc2.d/off_S13gdm and gdm wont be started
[08:49] <Parmenion> just installed firestarter
[08:50] <denis> Flannel, so I dont need to run the firestarter program unless I want to alter the config.?
[08:50] <velko> vak, or define your custom run level
[08:50] <minahlazer> iiiiiii
[08:50] <vak> velko: sounds like hack for me
[08:50] <Flannel> denis: Right.  Firestarter isn't your firewall, just a rule editor.
[08:50] <velko> vak, there are graphical tools which just create/remove links in this directory
[08:50] <vak> velko: skipping gdm will not skip X as well
[08:50] <denis> Flannel :ok that makes sense thanks
[08:51] <velko> vak, if this is less hackish for you - go for it
[08:51] <Faentur> Hi!  I have a question: I pulled a sound card from my machine (using on-board sound now) but I'm getting ALSA errors: device not found.
[08:51] <velko> vak, oh yes it will
[08:51] <Faentur> I've re-installed ALSA already.  Any ideas?
[08:51] <Parmenion> Flannel: how do i get it to firewall over both eth0 and eth1
[08:51] <vak> velko: oh, interesting
[08:51] <crimsun> Faentur: pastebin the contents of ~/.asoundrc* and/or /etc/asound.conf , then tell me the url.
[08:52] <vak> velko: btw, do you remember the names of these tools?
[08:52] <bloodMuffin> can someone help me repartition between ntfs and ext3
[08:52] <Parmenion> how people how
[08:52] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: exactly what do you need to do ?
[08:52] <rellik_> what is a good lightweight smtp server?  all I need it to do it relay everything to be sent from my Google Apps account using TLS
[08:52] <bloodMuffin> Parmenion: i wanted to decrease my windows partition and allocate it to ubuntu
[08:52] <Flannel> lgc: try `sudo mandb -c`
[08:53] <velko> vak, the problem is that you cannot boot in a lower runlevel (0 or 1). so you have to manipulate the links in runlevel 2 or define your own runlevel
[08:53] <bloodMuffin> im using the live cd right now, and i decreased my windows partition already, and the extra space says unusable next to it
[08:53] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: do you have free space on your ntfs partition ?
[08:53] <bloodMuffin> Parmenion: yes
[08:53] <Faentur> crimsun, ok, I'll do that.  Hang on
[08:53] <velko> vak, i tried one of them once but was nervous that it will bork my custom scripts and links and stopped using it
[08:53] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: ok, then set it to using the largest contiguous free space
[08:53] <sluimers> mwe, you still there?
[08:54] <velko> vak, you may take a look at www.gnomefiles.org
[08:54] <ceil420> does anyone have any idea how to get the nvidia kernel module version number to match the x module version number?
[08:54] <bloodMuffin> Parmenion: hm...i already chose manual and resized my ntfs partition
[08:54] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: personally, i just wiped my windows install; less hassle
[08:54] <vak> velko: i have had to use alternate CD instead of wished ubuntu feisty server distro
[08:54] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: then use the manual mode to partition
[08:55] <velko> vak, is this a question that i don't understand?
[08:55] <vak> velko: and now trying to get my box as much as possible closer to server configuration ;)
[08:55] <velko> vak, ok
[08:55] <ceil420> or at the very least, know of a way to play music from the CLI? i'm dyin' here ;x
[08:55] <Flannel> vak: You have the alternate CD?  Why didn't you install a GUI-less option?
[08:55] <bloodMuffin> Parmenion: i resized my ntfs to a smaller amount, and now i have 60000MB unusable
[08:55] <Flannel> ceil420: mpd
[08:55] <ceil420> lolz that's not installed
[08:55] <vak> flannel: if i could have known :)
[08:55] <ceil420> cheers
[08:55] <bloodMuffin> Parmenion: how do i add that to my ext3 partition?
[08:55] <Faentur> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17363/
[08:55] <imbecile> i have a question about gdesklets, how do i add my area to the weather desklet?
[08:55] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: use the manual method
[08:56] <lgc> Flannel, wonderful! Thanks! It did throw some (3-5 of the 'whatis exploration failed for...' type) errors, but who cares, it works now!
[08:56] <Flannel> ceil420: There's a bunch, actually.  Im just partial to mpd + frontend
[08:56] <velko> vak, in my book a server should run as little software as possible. this means no x server. just deinstall the whole x thing
[08:56] <platman> ceil420: mpg123
[08:56] <platman> or alternatively mpg321
[08:56] <sethrd> Anyone care to point me to a guide about installing fonts?
[08:56] <Faentur> crimsun, there's no /etc/asound.conf file.  Just ~/.asound*
[08:56] <Parmenion> um, you cant. unless you wiped the ext3 partition
[08:56] <crimsun> Faentur: please add the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards'', and tell me the new URL
[08:56] <Flannel> !fonts | sethrd
[08:56] <ubotu> sethrd: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[08:56] <Faentur> crimsun, OK
[08:56] <ceil420> can mpd and mpg123/321 play mp3's? :x
[08:56] <crimsun> ceil420: yes
[08:57] <sethrd> Thanks Flannel.
[08:57] <platman> mpg123 is specifically meant for mp3
[08:57] <ceil420> mpd is started, but how do i use it?
[08:57] <crimsun> ceil420: use a frontend.
[08:57] <ceil420> i have no GUI
[08:57] <ceil420> -_-
[08:57] <bloodMuffin> Parmenion: o...so i can only decrease the size of a partition, but not increase?
[08:57] <platman> mpg123 is CLI only
[08:57] <Faentur> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17364/
[08:57] <ceil420> hence the inquiry regarding a CLI player
[08:57] <ceil420> thx platman
[08:57] <Faentur> crimsun, and there's the problem.  /proc shows my real card: that CMI card is the old one
[08:57] <Flannel> bloodMuffin: you can't move the head of a partition, only the tail (only the end, not the beginning)
[08:57] <platman> or like i said, mpg321 also works well
[08:58] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: err ... yes
[08:58] <crimsun> Faentur: you could just rm ~/.asoundrc*
[08:58] <Parmenion> what Flannel said bloodMuffin
[08:58] <vak> velko: all right, deinstall is almost the case for me, but X is my backup emergency door -- if i'd like to shorten some configuration ways i'd like to use GUI-tools (also remotely)
[08:58] <platman> !mpg123
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpg123 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <velko> vak, wish you good luck
[08:58] <cypherdelic> How to use VMWarePlayer with DualCore and 64bit support, on a dualcore cpu with Feisty AMD64 latest kernel???
[08:58] <ceil420> o_O
[08:58] <crimsun> !info mpg123-alsa
[08:58] <ubotu> mpg123-alsa: MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player with ALSA support. In component multiverse, is optional.  In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (feisty), package size 33 kB, installed size 128 kB
[08:59] <ceil420> how do i play random files from, say, /media/zen/Tool?
[08:59] <umop> My samba shares are not mounting for some reason how can i find the error, the permission get broken on the dir i'm mounting to, they are '?---------  ? ?      ?          ?   ?'
[08:59] <Flannel> Parmenion: no idea
[08:59] <bloodMuffin> Parmenion: Flannel: i see...so theres no way to enlarge my ubuntu partition?
[08:59] <cypherdelic> How to use VMWarePlayer with DualCore and 64bit support, on a dualcore cpu with Feisty AMD64 latest kernel???
[08:59] <bloodMuffin> since im running out of space on it( i created it too small)
[08:59] <umop> bloodMuffin, Gparted
[08:59] <Flannel> bloodMuffin: Uh, well, that depends.  How big is the freespace? and how much stuff do you currently have on your ubuntu partition?
[09:00] <vak> velko: so, i rename script as you told me, and later can run it manually when needed. Hm, but then i have no right way to finish it, right?
[09:00] <acidtabs> can anyone help me to install urban terror please?
[09:00] <Hug1> Hi
[09:00] <bloodMuffin> umop: Gparted, is that an application to resize partitions?
[09:00] <Kubuntulator> where do i find the experimental Cube and wobbly windows in kubuntu-desktop feisty ?
[09:00] <Flannel> bloodMuffin: you can always create a new partition in that freespace, and mount it somewhere.  Although that's not as handy.
[09:00] <cypherdelic> How to use VMWarePlayer with DualCore and 64bit support, on a dualcore cpu with Feisty AMD64 latest kernel???
[09:00] <umop> bloodMuffin, yes
[09:00] <crdlb> ceil420, you can get a 2d gui with the nv driver
[09:00] <Faentur> crimsun, that did it.  Geez, I feel silly.  :)  THanks!
[09:00] <crimsun> Faentur: np.
[09:00] <bloodMuffin> Flannel: my freespace is only 8 mb, but what i did was resize my ntfs to half of what it was before
[09:00] <Hug1> anyoen can help me with a network problem?
[09:01] <bloodMuffin> Flannel: and now i have 60k "unusable" space sitting there...
[09:01] <Haru> Hug1, ask and hope someone responds :)
[09:01] <Hug1> ok
[09:01] <Flannel> bloodMuffin: right.  So, how much empty space do you have there?  on that partition-less spot?  and how big is your current ubuntu partition?
[09:01] <Flannel> bloodMuffin: 60k?
[09:01] <chosebine> hug1: your network connection is working ;)
[09:01] <acidtabs> can anyone help me to install urban terror please?
[09:01] <bloodMuffin> Flannel: current ubuntu partition has 12.5 GB
[09:01] <platman> ceil420: i use mpg321 and it's just mpg321 file.mp3
[09:02] <umop> acidtabs, there is not readme?
[09:02] <ExpositionOfEvil> anyone here use Steam?
[09:02] <ExpositionOfEvil> by valve
[09:02] <acidtabs> i don/t understand it
[09:02] <ceil420> platman, say you messed up and did "mpg123 -Z /media/zen/Tool" and are now being spammed with endless "No such file or directory"... how would you stop that? :x
[09:02] <acidtabs> i tryed a website
[09:02] <Flannel> bloodMuffin: and how big is the empty space?  since, I dont think it's 60k
[09:02] <chosebine> ExpositionOfEvil, :yes, but not under linux
[09:02] <acidtabs> with a tut but that did not work
[09:02] <Hug1> I have two ethernets in the same computer, eth0 and eth1. eth1 has internet and eth0 is internal network. They have different ip's but they should be able to have the same subnet mask. But if I put the same subnet mask (<IP_ADDRESS>) I lose internet from eth1
[09:02] <acidtabs> for some reason
[09:02] <bloodMuffin> Flannel: I resized my ntfs partition from 118GB down to 60G, and there is now ~60GB of 'unusable' space
[09:02] <umop> acidtabs, whats the error
[09:02] <umop> bloodMuffin, boot a live disc and use gparted
[09:03] <crdlb> ceil420, ctrl+C gives the interrupt signal
[09:03] <ceil420> crdlb, you're saying i can get a GUI just by changing "nvidia" to "nv" in xorg.conf?
[09:03] <crdlb> ceil420, yes
[09:03] <crdlb> just no 3d accel
[09:03] <jaypro> is there a way to upgrade your operating system from 6.06 server to 7.04 desktop without completely reinstalling the system?
[09:03] <ceil420> yeah, i tried that, it didn't stop :x
[09:03] <Hug1> the weirdest thing is that if I put <IP_ADDRESS> in eth0 then internet works, but when I check the network status it sais eth0 subnet mask is <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:03] <ceil420> same with break, ctrl+break, and esc
[09:03] <bloodMuffin> umop: hm im running off the live disc right now...
[09:03] <Hug1> and also a subnet mask should not finish in 1
[09:03] <Hug1> anyone?
[09:03] <acidtabs> http://gaming.gwos.org/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.68 the website that i was trying to use to installl it
[09:03] <vak> velko: LOL, i am still sleeping. One doesn't need X on server's side for remote sessions
[09:03] <chosebine> hugl: did you try with ifconfig?
[09:03] <Flannel> bloodMuffin: Oh.  Ok.  So, this will take a smidge of working, but it's doable.  Create a partition there (ext3)  then mount both of those partitions, and copy the contents of your 12GB one into the 60GB one
[09:03] <acidtabs> and the problem started when i was at the chmod
[09:03] <umop> bloodMuffin, then start gparted and go for it
[09:03] <Haru> jaypro, use "sudo aptitude upgrade"
[09:03] <acidtabs> part
[09:03] <Hug1> cosebine yes
[09:04] <ExpositionOfEvil> jaypro look at System: Administration: Update Manager
[09:04] <vak> velko: even if GUI tools are wished
[09:04] <ceil420> crdlb, you know how to "crash" the second... ctrl+alt+F2 thing (what's that called? :x)
[09:04] <Flannel> bloodMuffin: then once that's done, you delete your 12GB one, and expand your 60 to 72.
[09:04] <ceil420> ?
[09:04] <Flannel> ceil420: tty
[09:04] <crdlb> jaypro, you have to go dapper>edgy>feisty
[09:04] <jaypro> ExpositionOfEvil> you cant do that from 6.06 SERVER
[09:04] <ceil420> what's tty mean?
[09:04] <billybob> that would be apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:04] <Flannel> !upgrade | jaypro
[09:04] <ubotu> jaypro: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:05] <ceil420> !tty
[09:05] <ubotu> To get to the tty terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).
[09:05] <chosebine> Hug1, you are not able to ping yor gateway?
[09:05] <ExpositionOfEvil> anyone use Steam on wine?
[09:05] <ceil420> wish i had a graphical login :x
[09:05] <ceil420> so how do i crash tty2?
[09:05] <crdlb> ceil420, you can run top so see the process id
[09:05] <jaypro> Haru> "sudo aptitude upgrade"? oh i thought those were just minor updates
[09:05] <Flannel> ceil420: TeleTYpewriter
[09:05] <ceil420> sounds old school :p
[09:05] <billybob> they are . . .
[09:06] <platman> ceil420: switch to a different terminal and type killall mpg123
[09:06] <Haru> jaypro, :)
[09:06] <Delco> hey
[09:06] <crdlb> and if that doesn't work add a -1
[09:06] <crdlb> then as a last resort -9
[09:06] <billybob> dist-upgrade AFTER changing your list.conf
[09:06] <Hug1> d
[09:06] <billybob> upgrade just upgrades packages
[09:06] <ceil420> "Terminated" mrawr
[09:07] <W_o_r[l] d> !mtab
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <Hug1> chosebine wich gateway? my own computer or the router with internet acces?
[09:07] <crdlb> ceil420, the nv driver doesn't even use a kernel module
[09:07] <chosebine> hugl: the router
[09:07] <W_o_r[l] d> !fstab
[09:07] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:07] <Hug1> I can now
[09:07] <Hug1> let me try changing the subnet mask
[09:07] <bloodMuffin> Flannel: it wont let me format the unusable 60GB space
[09:08] <ceil420> crdlb, groovie. hopefully next time i'm in here, it'll be from xchat :x
[09:08] <ceil420> no offense to fans of text, but irssi's ugly :(
[09:08] <shirish> guys isn't there a desktop-effects channel?
[09:08] <crdlb> yeah I couldn't get used to it
[09:08] <ceil420> #ubuntu-effects
[09:08] <shirish> !desktop-effects
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desktop-effects - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <crdlb> shirish, #ubuntu-effects
[09:08] <Haru> shirish, ubuntu-effects
[09:09] <wood> no
[09:09] <shirish> ok thanx guys
[09:09] <jaypro> hrmm.. thanks fellas!
[09:09] <umop> My samba shares are not mounting for some reason how can i find the error, the permission get broken on the dir i'm mounting to, they are '?---------  ? ?      ?          ?   ?'
[09:09] <billybob> 'My samba shares are not mounting for some reason' is rather a broad question
[09:10] <bloodMuffin> umop: i open gparted, and i see 4 partitions and 1 unallocated space
[09:10] <aldin> i just recompiled kernel and if i put anything like vga=791 my screen is blak till gdm... it is ok is i leave it without vga parameter
[09:10] <bloodMuffin> umop: it wont let me create a partition in the unallocated
[09:10] <Hug1> chosebine:  either way I can ping the router
[09:10] <Hug1> I think I know whats going on
[09:11] <umop> bloodMuffin, what does it say?
[09:11] <Hug1> its a rout problem
[09:11] <amb> so anyone want to help with a fun and exciting kubuntu feisty alternative install problem?
[09:11] <aldin> what should i enable?
[09:11] <wood>
[09:11] <bloodMuffin> umop: 'it is not possible to create more than 4 primary partitions'
[09:11] <Hug1> Does anybody knows how I edit the iptables?
[09:11] <Hug1> or a link to see how iptables work?
[09:11] <chosebine> hugl: with you subnet mask to <IP_ADDRESS> on your both network adapter you are able to ping your router?
[09:11] <aldin> Hug1: u firestarter it is frontend for iptables AFAIK
[09:11] <ceil420> crdlb, if i wasn't so damned hetero, i'd e-shagg you
[09:11] <Hug1> chosebin yes
[09:11] <ceil420> XD
[09:11] <billybob> umop: http://www.howtoforge.com/samba_setup_ubuntu_5.10 will give you an idea what needs to be done, skip the domain controller/CUPS part . . .
[09:11] <cypherdelic> How to use VMWarePlayer with DualCore and 64bit support, on a dualcore cpu with Feisty AMD64 latest kernel???
[09:11] <ceil420> the colours!
[09:12] <ceil420> the GUI!
[09:12] <crdlb> heh
[09:12] <bloodMuffin> umop: from left to right i have [ntfs] [ext3] [linux-swap] [ntfs] [unallocated]
[09:12] <ceil420> the little flashy mouse splash screen!
[09:12] <ceil420> it's all beautiful!
[09:12] <Parmenion> lol ceil420
[09:12] <umop> billybob, okay
[09:12] <Parmenion> :P
[09:12] <ceil420> :D
[09:12] <zerothis> how do i add a local directory as a package source?
[09:12] <billybob> umop: when all else fails, 'man samba' ;)
[09:12] <umop> bloodMuffin, it wont let you make it a ext3 partition?
[09:12] <Haru> zerothis, just use dpkg -i fielname.deb
[09:12] <platman> ceil420: the only time i get THAT excited to see brown is after a stomachache
[09:12] <ceil420> (but srsly tho, there should be an apt-get burn-in-hellfire command)
[09:12] <umop> billybob, yeah maybe
[09:12] <chosebine> Hug1:download ethereal and try to access a website on the internet, if it's not working, see what is the problem with the ethereal log
[09:13] <ceil420> platman, lmfao
[09:13] <Hug1> chosebin I have done route -v in both cases and the problem is that when both have <IP_ADDRESS> eth0 appears as default option for conections as well and it shouldnt because it doesnt have internet. but when eth0 has <IP_ADDRESS> then it doesnt appear as default gateway
[09:13] <Hug1> so its a problem with iptables
[09:13] <Hug1> with routing
[09:13] <mnk> hi all. i am using dell mediadirect on my machine and if i install ubuntu grub will be installed into the mbr. that means that the mediadirect button won't work any more. is there anyway around that?
[09:13] <Hug1> anybody knows how to use iptables or a web page?
[09:13] <ssaa> hello. I have a little question : what's the equivalent of alsamixer but for oss?
[09:13] <bloodMuffin> umop: yea it says i cant have more than 4 primary partitions
[09:13] <Hug1> chosebine:  Ill try ethereal its a network control program isnt it?
[09:13] <Parmenion> damn, im getting hungry
[09:13] <mnk> ie during the install, can i install grub into somewhere other than the mbr to preserve my current mbr?
[09:13] <billybob> umop: in short, you NEED to make a system user, add that user to samba, then set appropriate permissions.
[09:13] <platman> mnk: you can just NOT install grub
[09:14] <Parmenion> max is three primary
[09:14] <ceil420> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[09:14] <ceil420>   module-assistant xserver-xorg-dev dh-make
[09:14] <mnk> platman: so how do i then boot into linux?
[09:14] <ceil420> xserver-xorg-dev sounds important :o is it safe to remove that?
[09:14] <umop> bloodMuffin, it doesnt really matter, we want to grow a partition to take up that space yeah?
[09:14] <Parmenion> you need to make logical partitions then bloodMuffin
[09:14] <ceil420> (no idea what the other two are; they prolly came with envy or something)
[09:14] <florg> hi, does anyone know where to get the Murrine Metacity theme? All the links seem to be broken, referring to http://gnomethemes.org/2006/07/22/murrine-metacity-preview/
[09:14] <platman> you can ghetto rig the windows bootloader to boot the linux kernel
[09:15] <thebillywayne> !info e17 feisty
[09:15] <ubotu> Package e17 does not exist in feisty
[09:15] <mnk> platman: i am using crappy vista - do u know how i can do that pls?
[09:15] <chosebine> hugl:no, a packet analyser, you can follow the communication between the equipment and see were it doesnt work
[09:15] <platman> mnk: http://highlandsun.com/hyc/linuxboot.html
[09:15] <bloodMuffin> i click on the unallocated space, i choose new partition, and it gives me that notice
[09:15] <billybob> anyhow, hottub time !
[09:15] <platman> mnk: idk about Vista though
[09:15] <Parmenion> Vista is a bitch
[09:15] <Parmenion> apologies for my vulgarities, but really
[09:16] <Parmenion> vista is annoying.
[09:16] <billybob> there is a tool, for editing the Vista bootloder, but I can not remember the name
[09:16] <ceil420> Parmenion, i believe it :p
[09:16] <platman> parmenion is using foul language: cancel or allow?
[09:16] <salaah> can someone tell me why my wlan doesnt auto connect on startup and what i ca do about it pleasE?
[09:16] <Parmenion> lol :P platman
[09:16] <mnk> ok thanks platman, what r the chances that it will be the same in vista? also, how do i tell the ubuntu installer not to install grub pls?
[09:16] <ceil420> :p
[09:16] <amb> So no one knows why an alternative cd install would crap out at the Select and Install Software section, and all following sections?
[09:16] <chosebine> Parmenion:nobody here will trow you the first stone for cursing windows!
[09:16] <papatwilight> IMO Ubuntu nock Vista off it chair and beets it's but in every way
[09:17] <bloodMuffin> umop: Parmenion, my gparted looks like the following :    [  ntfs ]  [ext3] [linux-swap] [     ntfs   ]  [ unallocated   ]
[09:17] <Parmenion> amb: is the iso verified ?
[09:17] <ceil420> oh it feels so good to click again
[09:17] <ceil420> i don't even care if i never play UT, I CAN CLICK!
[09:17] <platman> for mnk: does anyone remember if you can choose NOT to install grub when installing? you can in EVERY other distro
[09:17] <ceil420> :x
[09:17] <amb> Parmenion, first thing I did.. yes
[09:17] <Parmenion> amb: do a disk defect check, if it hangs, reburn
[09:17] <imbecile> i have a question about gdesklets, how do i add my city to the weather desklet?
[09:17] <billybob> triple boot vista/XP/Ubuntu ---> http://lifehacker.com/software/ubuntu/hack-attack-how-to-tripleboot-windows-xp-vista-and-ubuntu-193474.php
[09:17] <billybob> ok, i really am gone nnow
[09:17] <billybob> HOTTUB !
[09:17] <Kimppa> Hello. I'm having problems with mounting a network hard drive. I'm able to mount it, but only so that root has write access to it? Any ideas how I can mount it so that other usernames will have write access as well?
[09:18] <umop> bloodMuffin, you want to grow the ext3 to take the unnallocated space yeah?
[09:18] <Parmenion> amb: then wait a little longer? just a suggestion... unless you waited too long already
[09:18] <chosebine> imbecile:tu dois trouver le code correspondant  ta ville
[09:18] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: are you using the second ntfs ?
[09:18] <salaah> can someone please help me
[09:18] <amb> Parmenion, it doesn't hang it reports that there was an error
[09:18] <imbecile> !fr | chosebine
[09:18] <ubotu> chosebine: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:18] <bloodMuffin> Parmenion: yes, id rather keep it intact if theres a way around deleting it
[09:18] <platman> sorry mnk: i install so many distro's a really don't remember
[09:19] <Parmenion> amb: O.o did you check if the md5s for the iso which you downloaded
[09:19] <amb> Parmenion. I'll go try that
[09:19] <papatwilight> amarok is awsome :)
[09:19] <bloodMuffin> umop: it wont let me grow i think since there exists an ntfs partition and a linux-swap partition between my ext3 and the unallocated
[09:19] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: a little out of my league then sorry . and i agree with your inference
[09:20] <mnk> ok thanks anyway platman
[09:20] <darren> ohh  what a crap day today was
[09:20] <Hug1> finally!!!
[09:20] <Hug1> got it working
[09:20] <chosebine> imbecile : sorry, your nick fool me
[09:20] <platman> bloodmuffin: try the gparted livecd with clonezilla
[09:20] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: wipe the linux swap then
[09:20] <chosebine> Hug1: what did you change?
[09:20] <mnk> does anyone else know if i have the choice of not installing grub on install in ubuntu?
[09:20] <Parmenion> then mess around some more.
[09:20] <Hug1> chosebin thanks for listening
[09:20] <platman> it lets you clone partitions so you can move them around then fixate
[09:20] <Parmenion> mnk: yes you can
[09:20] <imbecile> chosebine, no problem :)
[09:20] <darren> anyone have dual monitor  working ?
[09:20] <Hug1> chosebine:  I was putting a gateway in my eth0 (internal network) configuration
[09:20] <umop> bloodMuffin, thats true, there is probably a way to shuffle them, buts its up to you, like unallocating swap, then resizing the nts, etc till you have space nxt to ext3
[09:20] <Hug1> and I shouldnt have
[09:20] <Hug1> know its fine
[09:21] <dirrty> yes duals here
[09:21] <Parmenion> after you partition and before installing, you can press the advanced button
[09:21] <darren> hi  filthy
[09:21] <Parmenion> then select what you wanted
[09:21] <darren> :)
[09:21] <chosebine> you can't have to gateway
[09:21] <chosebine> two
[09:21] <chosebine> sorry for my poor english...
[09:21] <mnk> ok thanks Parmenion
[09:21] <Parmenion> but really mnk, unless you know where exactly the kernel your going to call is, id suggest to sticking to grub
[09:22] <Hug1> chosebine I know now
[09:22] <platman> parmenion: you can always find out with windows. there is an ext3 driver available for windows
[09:22] <Hug1> XD
[09:22] <darren> dirrty?
[09:22] <zerothis> Haru: so I have to 1-at-a-time local packages, i can't add a whole directory?
[09:22] <platman> it works suprisingly well
[09:22] <mnk> Parmenion: the problem is dell mediadirect won't work cos grub overwrites the mbr. dell MD is a button u press that boots into dell's own 'OS' and lets u play media files etc...
[09:22] <Parmenion> platman: really?!? cool ...
[09:23] <Haru> zerothis, do dpkg -i *.deb
[09:23] <mnk> Parmenion: is there a way of installing grub not on the mbr?
[09:23] <Parmenion> mnk: i see .... then you have no choice but to use the windows bootloader
[09:23] <Haru> zerothis, will do all at once
[09:23] <chosebine> hugl: the gateway is the default-route-when-I-dont-know-where-this-network-is
[09:23] <platman> parmenion: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[09:23] <Hug1> chosebin thats why I was losing internet
[09:23] <Parmenion> mnk: i think you could install grub on a thumb drive :P its been done before
[09:23] <Hug1> I understand now
[09:24] <Parmenion> but i cant help you with that, you would have to google it
[09:24] <mnk> lol Parmenion
[09:24] <Parmenion> thanks platman
[09:24] <platman> no prob
[09:25] <Haru> btw how does open source generate revenue
[09:25] <Haru> ubuntu for that matter
[09:25] <Haru> donations only?
[09:25] <mahmoud_> support services
[09:26] <NewNickname> after i compile kernel from source how do i make initrd?
[09:26] <chosebine> hugl: if you ping google (<IP_ADDRESS>) both of your network adapter dont know these network, only their 192.168.0.x/24, the gateway is the adresse of the network where you send all the packet adressed to a network you dont know
[09:26] <crimsun> NewNickname: you likely want mkinitramfs instead.
[09:26] <platman> haru: canonical sends out ninjas to do their bidding. they are pretty good at coercing you into giving them money.
[09:26] <cyberfr0g> sup
[09:26] <Haru> platman, lol
[09:27] <Haru> platman, i was thinking if open source media would work too :)
[09:27] <chowmeined> Haru: you think he is joking..
[09:27] <Haru> :fear:
[09:28] <aldi1> crimsun: do u know command and other (mkinitrd *** ***)
[09:28] <platman> media as in music and television?
[09:28] <Haru> platman, yea
[09:28] <chowmeined> they have open source plans
[09:28] <chowmeined> its called DRM
[09:28] <Parmenion> lol chowmeined
[09:28] <Haru> rofl
[09:28] <Delco> that little thing called YouTube will never make it. its open source
[09:28] <Haru> chowmeined, i wonder how they get the movey to hire ninjas in the first place
[09:29] <platman> haru: have you met linux zealots? they do it willingly
[09:29] <Gabz> Haru:  Mark made acouple millon dollars then decided he wanted his own OS
[09:29] <Parmenion> lol
[09:29] <chosebine> if it's the end of audio drm soon, do you think it will be the same for the multimedia one?
[09:29] <Aaronfromchina> i'm using Kile to write some Chinese docs, but Kile does NOT seem to support Chinese. Should I install any extra package?
[09:29] <platman> DOWN WITH SONY
[09:29] <Haru> Gabz, whos mark :S
[09:30] <chowmeined> DRM doesnt work
[09:30] <umop> Gabz, *Distribution
[09:30] <chowmeined> all it does is piss off regular people
[09:30] <chosebine> amen
[09:30] <Parmenion> marl shuttleworth
[09:30] <kaptengu> I have a serious problem, I suddenly can't read my NTFS-parition, in partition editor it says "Unknown partition", can I rescue this disk in some way?
[09:30] <chowmeined> and it means profession pirates make more $$$ cause its more difficult
[09:30] <Gabz> umop:  yes distrubtion sorry
[09:30] <bloodMuffin> what is an extended partition?
[09:30] <Parmenion> *mark shuttleworth Haru
[09:30] <chowmeined> bloodMuffin: Its a way to allow more than 4 partitions  with dos disk labels
[09:31] <jijutm> hi all downloaded the dvd image.. but my laptop does not have a dvd drive, nor does it boot from usb and no floppy drives too .. I have managed to boot using the kernel on the cd, by copying that and putting in the boot folder, since I am having RedHat 9 on the system with grub. Can I coax it to install from iso image on harddisk.
[09:31] <chosebine> jijutm:install it from a cd!
[09:31] <Gabz> jijutm: why can't use just use the cd install disk ?
[09:31] <jijutm> I said I dont have a cd drive
[09:31] <platman> all i want to know is when nintendo will let me play movies on my wii
[09:31] <platman> and give me better games
[09:32] <chosebine> jijutm: you said (write) dvd
[09:32] <Gabz> jijutm: does it have a network card ?
[09:32] <jijutm> sorry.. meant so.. since I did download the dvd
[09:32] <Parmenion> err jijutm ... its kinda not possible ...
[09:32] <jijutm> yes it has a network card
[09:32] <Dalziel_86> Hi, I have a question about xdmcp and vnc
[09:32] <jijutm> parmenion: Redhat had that option..
[09:33] <Haru> btw is there a ubuntu install and not a ubuntu-desktop-install cd ?
[09:33] <platman> Has anybody tried installing ubuntu from a PUD disc?
[09:33] <bloodMuffin> chowmeined: thanks
[09:33] <jijutm> gabz: so I will need to go for a network install ?
[09:33] <Parmenion> jijutm: agreed ...
[09:33] <mrcreativity> platman: whats a PUD disk?
[09:33] <Gabz> jijutm: you maybe able to use another computer and install ubuntu using your network card
[09:33] <Parmenion> Haru: its called the server install
[09:33] <platman> PUD is a ubuntu spinoff
[09:33] <mrcreativity> i c
[09:33] <Parmenion> or use the alternate cd Haru
[09:33] <Haru> Parmenion, why server :S
[09:33] <platman> its only 200MB or so in size
[09:33] <Parmenion> Haru: barebones .
[09:34] <Haru> Parmenion, oki ... i thoguht it was a different distro
[09:34] <kaptengu> jijutm: I think you can configure grub to use an iso at start-up
[09:34] <platman> it uses the feisty repos, so you can basically use it as an install disc
[09:34] <Parmenion> or the alternate cd
[09:34] <jijutm> kaptengu: thanks.. Will look that now..
[09:34] <Gabz> jijutm: google ubuntu on tap... they made a network install server
[09:35] <jijutm> gabz: no problem.. I have plenty of machines at spare.. am currently in our office..
[09:35] <Dalziel_86> I want to remote administer a Feisty box using xdmcp or vnc. I like VNC, but its slow. XDMCP is faster, but I don't know if it can do what VNC can do. Anyone know if I can login to the current session using XDMCP?
[09:35] <feAR`> maybe somebody uses ubuntu on mac?
[09:36] <dzdzysty> cze
[09:36] <jijutm> and mostly our developers are getting a nightmare.. due to my latest craze !ubuntu!
[09:36] <platman> alrite everyone i'm out. i have a final tomorrow. later
[09:36] <chosebine> I have a partition who is mounted automatically at boot, but there is nothing about this partition in my /etc/fstab, someone know a other place where you can mount a partition at boot?
[09:36] <jijutm> since we are migrating all developers php, java, content, web to ubuntu desktops..
[09:37] <Gabz> jijutm: read this aswell https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[09:37] <dzdzysty> czesc jest tu ktos
[09:37] <Parmenion> jijutm: what firm are you working for ?
[09:38] <dzdzysty> hsg
[09:38] <Dalziel_86> Can anyone give me a hand here?
[09:38] <sethrd> !fonts
[09:38] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[09:38] <Parmenion> Dalziel_86: describe your problem :P
[09:39] <dzdzysty> jest tu ktos z polski
[09:39] <bloodMuffin> if i create a new partition with gparted and select the copy button to copy everything from my old ext3 to the new ext3, is it the exact same thing?
[09:39] <Dalziel_86> I want to remote administer a Feisty box using xdmcp or vnc. I like VNC, but its slow. XDMCP is faster, but I don't know if it can do what VNC can do. Anyone know if I can login to the current session using XDMCP?
[09:39] <dzdzysty> poland
[09:40] <Gabz> !po
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <Gabz> !poland
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about poland - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <Parmenion> Dalziel_86: http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO
[09:40] <Dalziel_86> The Feisty box acts as a wireless access point/file server/p2p client. I want to be able to config wireless, move files around, and most importantly, add/remove things from p2p clients.
[09:40] <chosebine> Dalziel_86: you can use ltsp
[09:40] <Parmenion> ^it might not be what your looking for, but it might help
[09:40] <Gabz> !pl dzdzysty
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pl dzdzysty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <Gabz> !pl | dzdzysty
[09:40] <ubotu> dzdzysty: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:41] <dzdzysty> sekiu
[09:41] <Dalziel_86> I can do all that with VNC, but it's slow. XDMCP is faster, but I don't know if it can do what I want.
[09:41] <dzdzysty> bay bay
[09:41] <Parmenion> sorry Dalziel_86, ive never used XDMCP before :\ sorry im unable to assist
[09:41] <dark112> whatever happened to go ol' hotline
[09:42] <Parmenion> !linux
[09:42] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[09:42] <Dalziel_86> I have both XDMCP and VNC set up fine and working, I just don't know how to get xdmcp to do what I want, and to be honest I'm not sure if it can...
[09:42] <Dalziel_86> chosebine: what is ltsp?
[09:42] <Parmenion> !beryl
[09:42] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:42] <Dalziel_86> !ltsp
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ltsp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <sethrd> Does anyone have the artwiz fonts installed and working?
[09:43] <jijutm> parmenion: sorry.. I just wandered on the net to find how I can force grub to boot from ISO.. you asked me.. and the answer is Saturn India.. http://www.saturn.in
[09:43] <chosebine> Dalziel_86: it can, ltsp is a project to make a thin client server in linux for school, it is working fine
[09:43] <bloodMuffin> !gparted
[09:43] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[09:44] <bloodMuffin> about how long will it take to copy a 15GB partition?
[09:44] <chosebine> Dalziel_86: it use xdmcp to carry the user input/output by network and it is fast
[09:44] <Dalziel_86> chosebine: Hrmm... okay, that sounds interesting, I'll look into it. My main requirement is that the Feisty box be able to just keep running my programs unattended, even if I disconnect from it.
[09:45] <Gabz> bloodMuffin: between 30 mins and hours....
[09:45] <Parmenion> jijutm:dont mind,but this page is a little weird http://www.saturn.in/others/introduction.html
[09:45] <bloodMuffin> Gabz: ouch thanks.
[09:45] <Parmenion> the part "We are least interested in satisfying our clients!"
[09:46] <Gabz> bloodMuffin:  depends how what your copying to how good your hdd is if you have a new machine it's not a problem if you going over the network have lunch first
[09:46] <jijutm> parmenion: what is the problem?? any thing wrong ?
[09:46] <Parmenion> the part "We are least interested in satisfying our clients!"
[09:46] <chosebine> Dalziel_86: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
[09:46] <Gabz> Parmenion:  lol
[09:46] <jijutm> haaa.. we are more interested in satisfying the clients of our clients.. (B2B)
[09:47] <eNtRoPiA> goood morning ^_^
[09:47] <Parmenion> :P its a little awkwardly worded, that's all XD
[09:47] <Parmenion> it just leaped out at me when i browsed through
[09:48] <Dalziel_86> chosebine: will LTSP allow me to log in to a currently running session, and do something simple like start a torrent downloading in ktorrent?
[09:48] <jijutm> parmenion: thanks.. we just wanted people to notice it..
[09:49] <Dalziel_86> chosebine: the problem I have with XDMCP is that it doesn't want to let me log in to the current session and administer programs running there. It wants me to start a new session, and run programs in that.
[09:50] <jacquesmerde> yo, i've installed bluez-gnome and connected my phone to my computer via hcid bluetooth. now i want to be able to send files to it via "send to..." which obex package do i want?
[09:53] <_Rappy_> are there some way to run Internet Explorer on ubuntu? without emulators? I need to check that my webpage displays porperly in IE...
[09:54] <Dalziel_86> _Rappy_: you could run it in WINE, or in a virtual machine running Windows.
[09:55] <PloneDudez> hi everyone
[09:55] <Dalziel_86> _Rappy_: neither of those is an emulator, but I suspect you're conflating emulating with virtualisation
[09:55] <jacquesmerde> WINE is an emulator. you'll have to e-mail bill and steve and ask them to port internet explorer to linux
[09:55] <dac> hi
[09:56] <Dalziel_86> WINE is not an emulator. Says so right in the name. :D
[09:56] <kurtti> no, Wine Is Not an Emulator
[09:56] <_Rappy_> no, but it's commonly refferd to one. I know what option I got with virtualizations, wine and emus I meant are ther esome kind of packs that just kan be installed?
[09:57] <PloneDudez> lets say, i wanna combine two commands into one ... like currently i always do this "cd folder/;ls" ...one of my frenz told me to configure the .bashrc but i am not aware how..anyone knoes..
[09:57] <zaggynl> Dalziel_86, it's kinda hard to explain, how would you explain what wine is?
[09:57] <ep|k> dasat je mambng beryl
[09:57] <zaggynl> a set of API's that...emulate windows?
[09:57] <ep|k> hahaha
[09:57] <Dalziel_86> WINE is, essentially, something that fools applications into thinking they're running in Windows.
[09:57] <foug> how do i exit nano?
[09:58] <kurtti> ctrl-x
[09:58] <valehru> zaggynl, wine is not an emulator
[09:58] <dabaR> where is slashnet(URL)
[09:58] <Dalziel_86> WINE provides the APIs that applications hook into in Windows
[09:58] <foug> kurtti: thanks
[09:58] <valehru> !wine
[09:58] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:58] <_Rappy_> PloneDudez : in the .bashrc file (which resides in your home dir) there are exmapes of how to create your own custom commands. I.e.  Thanks guys.
[09:59] <bloodMuffin> some help with partitions please
[09:59] <Dalziel_86> _Rappy_: For testing a webpage, your best option is probably virtualisation.
[09:59] <zaggynl> valehru, yes yes, I get that all the time, but how to explain _what_ wine actually is then?
[09:59] <tdmme> I just updated my ubuntu 6.10 machine, rebooted, and now I got many applications without text in the menu's or with missing characters.... any idea how to fix it?
[09:59] <valehru> zaggynl, let them risk the wrath of asking on the winehq channel....
[10:00] <Dalziel_86> _Rappy_: Run something like VMware, install Windows in it, and test away.
[10:00] <valehru> zaggynl, Enverex is a stand up guy for that.
[10:00] <PloneDudez> _Rappy_: this command runs without any input parameters, but cd "input parameter";ls ...i am not aware of the input parameter part..
[10:00] <zaggynl> on the other hand...nah
[10:00] <valehru> _Rappy_, You can run IExplorer in wine
[10:00] <zaggynl> ie4linux
[10:00] <PloneDudez> The syntax part i mean..
[10:00] <stefg> tdmme: create a new user-account and test, if it's the same there. Might be a problem if you use a custom theme
[10:00] <bloodMuffin> help with partitions: i created a new ext3 partition and used gparted's copy button to copy my old ext3 to the new ext3
[10:01] <bloodMuffin> can i delete my old one ?
[10:01] <tdmme> stefg, I use the default ubuntu theme
[10:01] <valehru> bloodMuffin, have you tried gparted?
[10:01] <zaggynl> I have this problem, I'm downloading from usenet, and this give problems with our telephone (it's voip), and trickle doesn't really work for bandwidth shaping
[10:01] <valehru> bloodMuffin, its a fairly easy to use partition manager in gnome
[10:01] <valehru> bloodMuffin, sudo apt-get install gparted
[10:01] <Dalziel_86> _Rappy_: I wouldn't use WINE with IE for testing webpages, as the compatibility layer means that things might render quit differently than they would in a native Windows IE
[10:02] <bloodMuffin> valehru: i had problems because i wanted to expand my ext3 partition but it was sandiwched between two ntfs partitions
[10:02] <Ademan> anyone know how xfce gnome and kde store the "preffered applications" ?  and more importantly, the command for launching a terminal emulator
[10:02] <stefg> tdmme: hmmm... do you use a nvidia-card and have the option "RenderAccel" "True" in xorg.conf?
[10:02] <bloodMuffin> valehru: so i resized the second ntfs, created a new ext3 partition there, and used copy
[10:02] <PloneDudez> Anyone Knows how to combine two commands into One command
[10:02] <bloodMuffin> valehru: i am using gparted btw
[10:02] <haru> PloneDudez, combine ??
[10:03] <Dalziel_86> PloneDudez: piping maybe?
[10:03] <MajorApus> can someone help me modify my fstab to make my mounted drives have the correct permision
[10:03] <stefg> MajorApus: paste your fstab to pastebin
[10:04] <Ademan> zaggynl: well on windows when a windows application uses the win32 API (as they all do) it goes through win32.dll which talks to the windows kernel, which talks to the hardware.  ESSENTIALLY wine is a different version of win32.dll that talks to the linux kernel instead of the windows kernel
[10:04] <PloneDudez> Like currently, I do "cd folder/;ls" but i wanna create a new command like cdls folder/ or sumtin
[10:04] <zaggynl> Ademan, so, it's a layer of API's, which could be described as an emulator?
[10:04] <haru> PloneDudez, make a .sh file
[10:04] <Dalziel_86> PloneDudez: write a bash script
[10:04] <kblin> morning folks
[10:04] <tdmme> stefg, yes I got an nvidia-card with RenderAccel True in my xorg.conf
[10:04] <haru> and put it in /usr/bin
[10:05] <MajorApus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17365/
[10:05] <Dalziel_86> PloneDudez: what haru said
[10:05] <PloneDudez> do i modify the bashrc file
[10:05] <MajorApus> stefg: two of them (winxp and data1) are ntfs, data2 is ext3 and data3 is fat32
[10:05] <Ademan> zaggynl: well it's a re-implementation of the win32 API (among other things) which isn't an emulator in the traditional sense, but i suppose you could call it one using a different definition
[10:05] <stefg> tdmme: comment that RenderAccell option out.... problems with newer drivers
[10:05] <haru> PloneDudez, not needed.. just make a filename.sh file.. change permissions to make it exceutable.. and put in /usr/bin
[10:06] <tdmme> stefg, oke, I'll try that. Thanks
[10:06] <stefg> MajorApus: paste your fstab to pastebin
[10:06] <Ademan> zaggynl: it doesn't do what a SNES or sega genesis emulator does (which is interpret the program with software)
[10:06] <MajorApus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17365/
[10:06] <Ademan> which is why they say WINE is not an emulator
[10:06] <Dalziel_86> zaggyn: WINE doesn't emulate anything. It's more like a port.
[10:06] <zaggynl> hmm
[10:07] <Ademan> especially since "emulator" implies a lot of lag, they avoid the term
[10:07] <Ademan> but i think technically, by the dictionary definition of emulator, it is one
[10:07] <zaggynl> either way, it rocks :>
[10:07] <Ademan> indeed :-)
[10:08] <stefg> MajorApus: HUH... there are a lot f broken lines in your fstab
[10:08] <Dalziel_86> zaggyn, Ademan: it's not really definitionally an emulator, because it doesn't simulate/emulate anything. It's not emulating the Windows API, it's replacing it.
[10:08] <Dalziel_86> Subbing for it.
[10:08] <MajorApus> stefg: what do you mean
[10:10] <jacquesmerde> whats the "ubuntu" way to send files from my computer to my phone once i've paired them with bluetooth hcid?
[10:10] <kblin> actually wine is pretty mych of an amylator :)
[10:10] <stefg> MajorApus: lines 4-6 mean nothing... no devices stated. and it would be useful to migrate the whole fstab to UUID-based mounting.  Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[10:11] <kblin> it just doesn't have much overhead, as opposed to emulating a machine like a full virtual machine like qemu
[10:11] <blazemonger> !sequencer
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sequencer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <glick> hello
[10:11] <blazemonger> !music production
[10:12] <glick> excuse me, which version of ubuntu should i download for a core duo?
[10:12] <glick> the 64 bit version?
[10:12] <Aaronfromchina> hi, everyone. I've got problem of Chinese fonts support in Kile...........
[10:12] <kblin> glick: that depends on what you want to use it for
[10:12] <glick> kblin, desktop stuff,
[10:12] <kblin> glick: if you need to run a lot of 32bit apps, a 64bit distro is just a pain
[10:13] <glick> kblin, just regular desktopie stuff
[10:13] <glick> the core duo is 64 bits right?
[10:13] <Hugo> glick yes
[10:13] <kblin> for that, I'll need to look up if the core duo is a 64bit processor... :)
[10:13] <Hugo> it is
[10:13] <kblin> ah, ok
[10:13] <vbanait> HI I INSTALLED LYX. But my previous files created using lyx are opened by gedit. There is nothing like @open with
[10:14] <stefg> MajorApus: see the !fstab factoid on how to write a proper fstab
[10:14] <stefg> !fstab
[10:14] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[10:14] <glick> but i should use the 32 bit version of ubuntu?
[10:14] <zenrox> glick: yes
[10:15] <wehttamb_> anyone know how big the upgrade from edgy to feisty is, in megabytes?
[10:15] <MajorApus> stefg: Im just using the mount tool
[10:15] <MajorApus> stefg: not writing it myself
[10:15] <glick> but isnt 64 bits twice as cool as 32 bits?
[10:15] <iioran> 770 I think
[10:15] <kblin> glick: no, not really
[10:15] <zenrox> glick: yes but any apps you want to use arnt in 64bit yet
[10:15] <glick> hmm ok
[10:15] <kblin> glick: you get a lot of hassle in return
[10:15] <bloodMuffin> uh oh i need some help...
[10:16] <glick> i see
[10:16] <glick> so whats the 64 bit version good for?
[10:16] <zenrox> servers
[10:16] <stefg> MajorApus: can you paste the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' , too. plz. I don't know what happened, but i wouldn't use a fstab which looks like that
[10:16] <kblin> glick: do you have more that 8 gig of RAM?
[10:16] <nraic> Is any having problems downloading torrents at decent speeds in linux?
[10:16] <bloodMuffin> grub returns error 17
[10:16] <vbanait> where to modify files association
[10:16] <glick> no kblin i wish
[10:17] <stefg> !grub | bloodMuffin
[10:17] <ubotu> bloodMuffin: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:17] <kblin> glick: well, if you had, you'd want a 64bit distro
[10:17] <zaggynl> What's with the repositories? I can update just fine, but there isn't a single upgrade to be done
[10:17] <glick> i have a feeling that vista purposefully makes it so firefox doesnt work as well as it should
[10:17] <nraic> I am find torrent downloading in linux very very slow, any ideas why?
[10:17] <bloodMuffin> actually can someone help me i am unable to boot my drive ( currently running off live cd)
[10:17] <klasrudian> eeeh and why should he have 8GiB of ram to use 64-bits??
[10:18] <bloodMuffin> i copied my ubuntu partition to a new ext3 partition and deleted the old one
[10:18] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: what happened?
[10:18] <bloodMuffin> now grub gives me error 17
[10:18] <Parmenion> and?
[10:18] <Parmenion> ).0
[10:18] <glick> does feisty support reiser?
[10:18] <glick> i mean can i choose reiser on install?
[10:18] <zenrox> glick: yes
[10:18] <glick> i dont know why people dont like reiserfs its a kickass filesystem
[10:19] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: you need to edit the grub.conf or something like that
[10:19] <kblin> klasrudian: you don't have to... but if you have that much ram, you want to be able to address it without any nasty tricks that slow you down
[10:19] <klasrudian> bloodMuffin try and bot and press "e" in the brub meny and change the disk til you find the right one...
[10:19] <stefg> bloodMuffin: grub is still looking for it's config files on the old partition.... you have to update grub to tell it where it finds the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:19] <kblin> glick: unless it breaks
[10:19] <kblin> glick: which happens...
[10:19] <glick> hmm how much space should i five to ubuntu
[10:19] <ep|k> hi all..
[10:19] <kblin> and it's not really developed anymore, I think
[10:19] <glick> kblin, ive run reiser for a long ass time and its never broken on me
[10:19] <ep|k> i want to know how to use gtk theme..
[10:19] <glick> what about reiserfs4
[10:19] <ep|k> i'm newbie here
[10:20] <glick> i mean i know the developer killed his wife and all and is in jail but other people are developing it
[10:20] <kblin> glick: yeah, but that's been out for how long?
[10:20] <kblin> and not really established?
[10:20] <bloodMuffin> i see...so if i press e at the grub menu i can tell it where the new grub.conf is?
[10:20] <blazemonger> i like the christian ubuntu edition
[10:20] <MajorApus> stefg: that fstab was made using the system tool! its not like I messed with it
[10:20] <glick> well if more people started using it the more mature it would become
[10:20] <klasrudian> okay but it's only adnatige isn't hte support of adressing memory
[10:20] <kblin> to be honest, I've tried a lot of journalling file systems... and in the end I went back to ext3
[10:20] <negativecreep> hi folks.
[10:20] <klasrudian> advantige
[10:20] <vbanait> The fonts do not look as good as on windows
[10:20] <zeroday> ep|k: go to System>Preferences>Themes and drag it in
[10:20] <glick> yay i can finally run beryl
[10:21] <blazemonger> thing is the prob with Bibles is they're copyright..i dont get that
[10:21] <glick> ubuntu should fly on core duo with 2 gigs ram
[10:21] <kblin> glick: yay... I can't... ATI card... :/
[10:21] <ep|k> zeroday: i'm try
[10:21] <negativecreep> i am running edgy and upgrading to feisty..during upgrade, dmsetup fails saying udev is installed...cant go back either.
[10:21] <bloodMuffin> stefg: how would i go about doing that
[10:21] <glick> heh bummer kblin
[10:21] <zeroday> vbanait: did you install ms core fonts
[10:21] <stefg> MajorApus: i believe that.... it seems somethig did not go the way it should, so we'll add a little manual love :-)
[10:21] <glick> i have the crappiest nvidia card 7 series
[10:21] <vbanait> no
[10:21] <klasrudian> beryl is nice... jsut got it to work on my 64-bit installation :D
[10:21] <zeroday> ep|k: what error do you getr
[10:21] <glick> the 7300LE
[10:21] <kjalil> where can I go to search whether a particular package exists in the fiesty repository without installing fiesty? is there a 'search packages' somewhere?
[10:21] <blazemonger> glick: could be worse
[10:21] <jdavis_> hello, anyone know why starting beryl just turns the screen white?
[10:21] <kblin> glick: I'm running a notebook
[10:21] <blazemonger> i have a rage 128
[10:22] <stefg> bloodMuffin: please red the grub howto
[10:22] <blazemonger> and beryl wont run at all
[10:22] <blazemonger> or will it/
[10:22] <kblin> blazemonger: that indeed is worse...
[10:22] <glick> eventually ill upgrade, its pcie x 16 at least
[10:22] <stefg> !grub | bloodMuffin
[10:22] <ubotu> bloodMuffin: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:22] <glick> blazemonger, eh, its just fancy eye candy
[10:22] <MajorApus> stefg: How?
[10:22] <glick> doesnt add much
[10:22] <bloodMuffin> stefg: thanks
[10:22] <zeroday> vbanait: then in syanptic search for it and install (microsoft
[10:22] <glick> i just want to use it to impress the ladies
[10:22] <blazemonger> glick: yah
[10:22] <zeroday> *microsoft core fonts
[10:22] <ep|k> zeroday: thanks
[10:22] <vbanait> ok
[10:22] <kblin> glick: he, I have a mac for that :)
[10:22] <vbanait> thanks
[10:22] <glick> hey baby, wanna come upstairs and check out my kick-ass linux desktop?
[10:22] <zeroday> np
[10:23] <blazemonger> i could care less about eye candy unless im on mushrooms lol
[10:23] <stefg> MajorApus: give me your 'sudo fdisk -l' output to pastebin, then i can see how fstab should look
[10:23] <glick> works EVERY time
[10:23] <elkbuntu> !offtopic
[10:23] <kblin> glick: higher WAF for the hardware, too
[10:23] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:23] <glick> kblin, whats WAF?
[10:23] <kblin> women acceptance factor
[10:23] <kblin> anyhow..
[10:23] <andy_> anyone knows how I can read a .msg (outlook message file) in linux?
[10:23] <crabgrass> !format
[10:23] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:24] <glick> heh yeah but most women equate guys using macs as metrosexuals
[10:24] <crabgrass> as do most men i know
[10:24] <kblin> what I came here to ask for was... is there a list of firmwares for wireless cards in feisty?
[10:24] <glick> heh crabgrass concurrs
[10:24] <stefg> glick, crabgrass : take that to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[10:24] <MajorApus> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17366/
[10:25] <crabgrass> anywho, how do i format a drive from term?
[10:25] <glick> crabgrass, mkfs
[10:25] <blazemonger> if the Bible is copyrighted, wouldn't that make  it against the purpose of Christianity?
[10:25] <glick> mkreiserfs
[10:25] <glick> or mkext3fs
[10:25] <kleftisx> hello how can i remove compiz 0.5 packages??
[10:25] <crabgrass> ewww reiser
[10:25] <kblin> crabgrass: man mkfs
[10:25] <zaggynl> isnt' the reiser dev in prison?
[10:25] <glick> crabgrass, reiser rocks man, its hella fast
[10:25] <glick> zaggynl, yeah he killed his wife
[10:26] <crabgrass> kblin: durp, forgot about man
[10:26] <negativecreep> cany anyone help me with the udev/dmsetup problem?
[10:26] <crabgrass> glick: fast in what respects? would it be better for gaming/large files than ext3?
[10:26] <stefg> MajorApus: ok...  so you have win on your first hd, and linux on the second?
[10:26] <kblin> crabgrass: as far as I'm aware reiser is fast for small files
[10:26] <glick> crabgrass, reiserfs is better for a lot of smaller to medium size files
[10:26] <MajorApus> the mount tool is POS if you make a change to more than one drive it will do all the changes to the first drive, and never the second one, no matter how you click on it
[10:27] <crabgrass> kblin: how small?
[10:27] <crabgrass> glick: or, how medium?
[10:27] <glick> crabgrass, to 3 megs or so
[10:27] <crabgrass> glick: oh, so mp3's?
[10:27] <glick> 5 megs
[10:27] <kblin> crabgrass: I think most of the examples I've seen was to use reiser for maildirs or news server
[10:27] <MajorApus> yeah winzp and data1 are on hd1 and are ntfs, root data2 and swap are on hd2 root and data2 are ext3, datat3 is on its own fat32
[10:27] <crabgrass> i meant ogg's
[10:27] <glick> mp3s, media, programs, etc, etc,
[10:27] <bloodMuffin> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ df /boot
[10:27] <bloodMuffin> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[10:27] <bloodMuffin> -                       777980     24656    753324   4% /
[10:27] <jerkworthy> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_packages_kde351_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:28] <glick> ext3 out performs it on huge files obviously 100+megs
[10:28] <bloodMuffin> what does this mean
[10:28] <jerkworthy> what does that even mean?!
[10:28] <TuTuFF> from a vanilkla install, with an XP partition, then Ubuntu, then swap, will grub read the NTFS partition correctly and make entries in the MBR to permit dualboot without manual tinkering?
[10:28] <kblin> bloodMuffin: you can use df -h /boot to make that readable :)
[10:28] <crabgrass> glick: familiar with WoW/HL2?
[10:28] <glick> crabgrass, well ive heard of em
[10:28] <stefg> MajorApus: ok, so i'd need the output of 'blkid' ,too in pastebin
[10:28] <glick> if seen others play them
[10:28] <glick> why
[10:28] <crabgrass> glick: 'cause they access one large file for texture/models... would it be better to go with ext3 then?
[10:28] <blazemonger> anyone use ubuntu-ce?
[10:28] <glick> i just do civ2 and company of heros
[10:28] <negativecreep> http://www.pastebin.ca/455569 <-- can anyone have a look at it..upgrading from edgy to feisty.
[10:28] <michup> ive question about application, is there app which ables do movies similar or better to aftereffects?
[10:28] <vbanait> which ubuntu version is best
[10:29] <glick> crabgrass, how big a file?
[10:29] <bloodMuffin> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ df /boot
[10:29] <bloodMuffin> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[10:29] <bloodMuffin> -                       777980     24656    753324   4% /
[10:29] <bloodMuffin> shouldnt there be some dev/hdsomething something instead of - under filesystem....
[10:29] <crabgrass> glick: around a gig each
[10:29] <glick> crabgrass, ex3
[10:29] <crabgrass> glick: alright...
[10:30] <kblin> bloodMuffin: in theory
[10:30] <crabgrass> glick: also, i was planning on putting my / on a seperate partition from /home/... would there be any risks/benefits in using reiser for / and ext3 for /home/?
[10:30] <jerkworthy> *weeps*
[10:30] <glick> i dont really have alot of gig files lying around and for those that i do, well i dont really care much if my p0rn movies load in 3 seconds vs 2 seconds
[10:30] <crabgrass> glick: lol
[10:30] <MajorApus> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17367/
[10:30] <glick> crabgrass, nah you can do that
[10:30] <glick> split file systems
[10:30] <crabgrass> glick: awesome
[10:30] <glick> alot of sys admins do that to get max performance off of servers
[10:31] <stefg> MajorApus: k, hold on a sec
[10:31] <glick> ext3 for larger files, reiser for smaller files
[10:31] <crabgrass> sounds like a good idea, too
[10:31] <crabgrass> they play well together?
[10:31] <glick> crabgrass, yeah their all the same to linux, linux uses a virtual filesystem interface, which makes them all transparent to each other
[10:32] <dobblego> are there many issues upgrading 6.10 to 7.04?
[10:32] <crabgrass> mkext3fs: command not found
[10:32] <glick> crabgrass, mkfs
[10:32] <crabgrass> glick: gotcha
[10:33] <glick> man i hope installing ubuntu from vista isnt gonna screwup my vista
[10:33] <magnetron> seems like things are starting too calm down since the 1500+ peak during the Feisty release
[10:33] <stefg> MajorApus: hmm... funny. your win partitions don't seem to have a UUID... but doesnt matter too much. Do you need the win partitons mounted permantly, or is it enough if they are mouted on demand?
[10:33] <puk> ques, how do i figure out what package holds certain files (before having it installed)? Got vmware server installed, and it runs fine (?!?!) but it won't install mui cuz some file it depends on for output misses a lot of libraries. so I need to hunt down the packages that contain those libraries and there are quite a few
[10:33] <TECH_1> I hope it rips vista a new one.
[10:34] <crabgrass> glick: i have no experiance with vista, but i know 2000 craps its pants when it sees any fs' it doesn't recognize, and will try to format them
[10:34] <crabgrass> i know from personal experiance
[10:34] <MajorApus> data1 is 250gb of storage
[10:34] <magnetron> glick: use the live cd to install ubuntu, vista will hardly notice ubuntu is installed. it will notice that it has a smaller partition than before, though
[10:35] <MajorApus> stefg: i had it working earlier
[10:35] <TECH_1> just go buy another drive and be over with it...way worth it to.
[10:35] <jenda> Why does VLC open a new, blank (black) window titled VLC X11 output whenever I play a video?
[10:35] <crabgrass> puk: sudo apt-get build-dep vmware
[10:35] <crabgrass> puk: not sure, but that might do it.
[10:35] <jenda> 2 of them, actually - one is very tiny.
[10:35] <MajorApus> stefg: i could make the data1 ext3
[10:35] <puk> crabgrass: vmware isn't a package in ubuntu so i doubt that
[10:35] <glick> magnetron, will that cause it to crap its pants?
[10:35] <crabgrass> puk: bugger
[10:36] <puk> there must be a way to search for files somewhere..
[10:36] <blazemonger> vista=work of satan
[10:36] <crabgrass> vista = kicked out of the nest earlier than vanguard
[10:36] <TECH_1> lol
[10:36] <stefg> MajorApus: relax... we are just going to beautify this ugly fstab. So is it ok if you only mount the win-partitions n demand, since your data are on a separate partiton anyway?
[10:36] <glick> i wouldnt need vista if i could play my games flawlessly in linux :( but untill i cant im bound
[10:37] <MajorApus> stefg: for now
[10:37] <glick> ^can
[10:37] <crabgrass> glick: what games?
[10:37] <glick> crabgrass, civ4, company of heroes, and battlefield
[10:37] <kblin> glick: and you need vista for those games?
[10:37] <puk> xp uses way less memory...
[10:37] <jenda> glick: You can avoid playing games - it has worked great for me so far ;)
[10:37] <magnetron> glick, i don't know that much about vista's pants, but my point is that the installation is outside of vista
[10:37] <glick> kblin, no XP would do fine but vista is what came with my computer
[10:37] <blazemonger> a friend of mine has a pair of pants that are from space
[10:37] <|ringo|> Hey, does anyone know the apt-get command to install kernel sources?
[10:37] <vbanait> i am planning to try linux. which will be best
[10:37] <crabgrass> glick: 1942 or the new battlefield?
[10:38] <glick> apt-get install kernel-source
[10:38] <magnetron> glick: vista has bad game support
[10:38] <crabgrass> glick: 'cause i'm pretty sure bf1942 works with wine
[10:38] <glick> magnetron, seems ok so far
[10:38] <puk> magnetron: no games have bad vista support :)
[10:38] <kblin> crabgrass: sort of..
[10:38] <blazemonger> DRM=satanic
[10:38] <stefg> MajorApus: ok, just give me aminute
[10:38] <zack> with Ubuntu 7.04 alternate install, does it include a package of the new KDE so I don't have to download it again after my update?
[10:39] <puk> crabgrass: found something. apt-file :)
[10:39] <zack> i have the disk, just not looking forward to having to download a TON of stuff
[10:39] <glick> hmm gotta decide if i want ubuntu or kubuntu
[10:39] <crabgrass> puk: ooo
[10:39] <webmind> good day
[10:39] <crabgrass> glick: i like gnome, but don't overlook xfce
[10:39] <puk> glick: then decide whether you want gnome or kde...
[10:39] <webmind> I've upgraded to feisty
[10:39] <crabgrass> glick: just tried it today, and i like it
[10:39] <magnetron> glick, puk: almost ALL games has LESS performance in the "improved" vista compared to xp=> bad game platform
[10:39] <webmind> but now I lost all my evolution accounts
[10:40] <crabgrass> magnetron: that's becuase vista gorges itself on your ram
[10:40] <glick> magnetron, yeah maybe so, give if a service pack or two
[10:40] <webmind> they are still stored in .evolution
[10:40] <webmind> but new accounts are in .gconf2
[10:40] <webmind> can anyone tell me how to convert these ?
[10:40] <sjkwizard> hi...i've a problem...i can't get the lock of /var/lib/apt/lists/lock...how do i fix this problem?
[10:40] <puk> magnetron: ... it consumes more memory, more cpu, has mainly crappy drivers and you actually expect it to perform be tter?
[10:40] <zack> puk: i'm with you on that one
[10:40] <magnetron> glick: I doubt that. the service packs seldom removes things.
[10:40] <crabgrass> and it's 64bit... why
[10:41] <magnetron> puk: no, that's my point too
[10:41] <TECH_1> yea...bill got sick of being blue screened he desined the (RGP) program.
[10:41] <zack> any point to getting Ubuntu 64 bit yet? i tried once before and it was shocking, not even proper codec or flash support
[10:41] <TheInfinity> hmm ... one question ... my vpnc client has lots of problems since 7.04 ... it disconnects after secounds ... dows anybody know why?
[10:41] <dobblego> can I upgrade using the upgrade manager without downloading 850MB if I have the ISO?
[10:41] <crabgrass> zack: unless you have an app built for a 64bit platform, no
[10:42] <puk> zack: that's because the windows codecs are still only available in 32b. flash hasn't gotten to 64b yet either it's appearantly quite hard for them to rewrite their engine (can't just recompile it)
[10:42] <bloodMuffin> grr still not working
[10:42] <crabgrass> zack: like you said, it's a real pain getting flash, etc working.
[10:42] <magnetron> zack: actually it's Adobe that don't have 64 support
[10:42] <puk> zack: other than that should be fine
[10:42] <zack> dobblego: you should be able to put the cd info into /etc/apt/sources.list (or similar, gotta love TAB)
[10:43] <blazemonger> only prob i have with feisty  is the proprietary drivers
[10:43] <zack> puk, et. al.: right
[10:43] <dobblego> zack, ok thanks
[10:43] <crabgrass> can't wait for the day when svg replaces flash
[10:43] <zack> dobblego: check out ubuntuguide.org
[10:43] <webmind> btw, shouldn't this be a bug ?
[10:43] <magnetron> blazemonger, yes, if they were FOSS the community would be allowed to fix them
[10:44] <Madpilot> dobblego, you need to get the alternate installer ISO, then that'll get a bunch of the packages
[10:44] <magnetron> !vista
[10:44] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[10:44] <Madpilot> dobblego, just burn it, then stick it into your CD drive while Ubuntu is running - it'll be recognized and go from there.
[10:44] <crabgrass> lol evil overlords
[10:44] <dobblego> Madpilot, ok thanks
[10:44] <zack> Madpilot: i have an ubuntu alternate... would that still work for upgrading?
[10:45] <Madpilot> zack, yes - just burn it & drop it in your CD drive
[10:46] <andy_> anyone knows a plugin for gedit which converts all special chars in a document into it's correct html code? For example  into ö
[10:46] <crabgrass> andy_: find and replace? =/
[10:46] <andy_> crabgrass, there are also  and  etc.
[10:47] <andy_> and I don't wanna search the whole document for each special char that could appear ;)
[10:47] <richb> Hello al.l
[10:47] <vbanait> anybody knows any database program to manage medical clinics
[10:47] <Madpilot> andy_, some of the HTML editors might have a wizard for this - not sure. Try bluefish or screem for starters
[10:47] <richb> *all. too
[10:47] <crabgrass> andy_: i meant ctrl+h, but you're right... that would take a while
[10:47] <andy_> Madpilot, ok, gonna look into that.
[10:48] <vbanait> anybody knows any database program to manage medical clinics
[10:48] <vbanait> nybody knows any database program to manage medical clinics
[10:48] <shric> if you use an appropriate charset encoding, you shouldn't need to convert things like that
[10:48] <vbanait> anybody knows any database program to manage medical clinics
[10:48] <richb> vbanait: What sort of database do you need?
[10:48] <MajorApus> stefg: ?
[10:48] <richb> vbanait: And don't spam.
[10:48] <crabgrass> shric: doesn't always display correctly on the other end
[10:49] <stefg> MajorApus: still cleaning the mess :-)
[10:49] <ivx> hey i'm on feisty and the xchat icon in the notification area is cool but how can i get it to minimize to it?
[10:49] <|what_if|> can java 5 and 6 be installed at the same time ? synaptics lets me do it ...
[10:49] <vbanait> something that can keep my patients data and able to export the required reports
[10:49] <magnetron> vbanait: there is a database program included in openoffice. there is also other famous databases, like postgresql and mysql
[10:49] <crabgrass> what_if: AFAIK they're installed into seperate directories, so yes, you can.
[10:49] <richb> SQL is a requirement then?
[10:50] <vbanait> i require something readymade
[10:50] <richb> Mmm?
[10:50] <what_if> crabgrass: I see, but how do I reference one version or another since they are both called "java"
[10:50] <magnetron> vbanait: try the database in openoffice, it is included on the ubuntu desktop cd
[10:50] <crabgrass> what_if: if you can point the script/whatever to a directory directly, that would work
[10:51] <haru> how do i disable my lower panel bar?
[10:51] <crabgrass> what_if: i.e. '/path/to/java' rather than 'java'
[10:51] <what_if> crabgrass: I see, I did make the mistake of uninstalling java6 and installing java5... that killed it quick
[10:51] <vbanait> i have not worked with any dabase programs before. I needd a ready to use out of box solution
[10:51] <crabgrass> haru: rightclick it and 'delete this panel'
[10:52] <kblin> how do I get kubuntu to give me the kernel boot messages while booting?
[10:52] <Aucti> hello
[10:52] <crabgrass> haru: assuming you're using gnome
[10:52] <GuHHH> hello
[10:52] <violator_> help! the shortcut on my desktop cannot be deleted
[10:52] <crabgrass> Aucti: hi.
[10:52] <what_if> kblin: remove the line "quiet" from the grub boot options
[10:52] <GuHHH> is there any problem i use a package from edgy on festy?
[10:52] <stefg> MajorApus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17368/
[10:52] <Aucti> how are you ?
[10:52] <hoppy> Hi,bcm4318
[10:52] <haru> crabgrass, ok
[10:52] <magnetron> vbanait: openoffice.org is designed to be easy to use, yet powerful. try it
[10:52] <kblin> what_if: I can't do that while booting?
[10:52] <crabgrass> violator_: use the rm command in term
[10:52] <what_if> kblin: dunno, never tried
[10:52] <kblin> what_if: so.. like.. after I loaded the kernel?
[10:52] <TECH_1> Who knows anything about (fiaif)?
[10:53] <GuHHH> can someone give-me the libapache-mod-php5 package?
[10:53] <vbanait> i will. but is there any program for electronic medical records
[10:53] <Aucti> sorry,What,s it's
[10:53] <stefg> MajorApus: so 'sudo mv /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak' and replace the fstab with the one from pastebin
[10:53] <what_if> kblin: don't know if you can disable the splash while booting... never tried
[10:53] <Aucti> sorry,What,s this?
[10:53] <crabgrass> GuHHH: apt is friendly with things like that
[10:53] <kblin> what_if: well, thanks anyway :)
[10:53] <magnetron> violator_, what sort of shortcut is it?
[10:53] <hoppy> hi, anyone know if feisty now supports broadcom bcm4138 or am I best sticking with edgy?
[10:53] <GuHHH> crabgrass: sadly itsnt! i cant find this package anymore.
[10:54] <MoxJe2> what is the command to stop a ssh connection? (when connected to the other computer)
[10:54] <crabgrass> GuHHH: hmm... well, i don't have it here, try google?
[10:54] <GuHHH> crabgrass: take a try :/
[10:54] <LBM_> Hello, could anyone help me with installing nVidia drivers? I`ve tried installing from repositories, and the nvidia website, but the X just won`t
[10:54] <stefg> MajorApus: take care that the line wrap in pastebin does not mess things
[10:54] <LBM_> start with nvidia as driver
[10:54] <GuHHH> already tried. ;)
[10:54] <richb> LBM_: Won't start?
[10:54] <crabgrass> LBM_: one sec
[10:54] <MajorApus> why is the ntfs read only?
[10:54] <MoxJe2> oh ok ctrl+d
[10:54] <bloodMuffin> !grub
[10:54] <violator_> it's an mp4 file. i've tried moving it to trash but it always stays
[10:54] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:54] <crabgrass> LBM_: http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[10:54] <GuHHH> LBM_: use vesa instead, do u really need nvidia driver?
[10:54] <MajorApus> stefg: thanks for your time, let me try it out
[10:55] <crabgrass> LBM_: give that a shot
[10:55] <stefg> Major check for typos... i think i found one on sdc1
[10:55] <violator_> the source file is on an ntfs drive
[10:55] <crabgrass> mkfs question: what's the difference between '-t fstype' and 'filesys'?
[10:55] <bluesman>  /join #ubuntu-classroom
[10:56] <MajorApus> okay so they are all mounted, but I have no access on winxp, readonly on data1 (fine for now) rw on data2 and only r on data3
[10:56] <magnetron> vbanait; there is an open medical records software in development called OpenMRS, see http://www.openmrs.org/
[10:56] <LBM_> crabgrass, thanks. I`ve tried Envy, it does install, but anyway starts with black screen, so I had to restore xorg.conf
[10:56] <MajorApus> data 3 needs to be rw
[10:56] <tarzeau> how does ubuntu feisty make that usb sticks are mounted to /media/disk ? i can't find anything in /etc/fstab
[10:56] <GuHHH> MajorApus: you are not root there.
[10:56] <crabgrass> LBM_: same thing happens here, use nano to change the driver from 'nvidia' to 'nv'
[10:57] <LBM_> GuHHH, well I do hope to get the maximum out of my video card...
[10:57] <crabgrass> LBM_: i have no idea why that happens, and it happens every time i reboot, but that fix seems to work
[10:57] <richb> LBM_: Could you post the Xorg.log somewhere?
[10:57] <GuHHH> LBM_: sorry but what for?
[10:57] <crabgrass> richb: you have a fix for this? i'm interested
[10:57] <stefg> MajorApus: wait, thers something missing in the first line
[10:58] <MajorApus> brb
[10:58] <GuHHH> tarzeau: mount -t vfat /dev/xxx /mnt/usb
[10:58] <LBM_> crabgrass, that is not a workaround as far as I understand, it`s just using other driver
[10:58] <crabgrass> LBM_: durp
[10:58] <haru> how do i get svn to work via proxy
[10:58] <haru> subversion that is
[10:58] <richb> crabgrass: I don't know what the problem is yet, without a log file it is hard to diagnose.
[10:58] <crabgrass> LBM_: well, in that case, i have no idea
[10:58] <GuHHH> LBM_: are ur monitors refresh rate correct?
[10:58] <stefg> MajorApus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17369/
[10:59] <tarzeau> GuHHH: no it must be automatic
[10:59] <crabgrass> richb: well, i'd hand over my logfile, but... long story short, i don't have that install anymore
[10:59] <orbin> hoppy: are you using ndiswrapper now?
[10:59] <Meltir> hi ppl. im trying to compile php under feisty. configure tells me 'checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc   ) works... no', in fact it says 'checking for c++... no' :| i obvoiusly checked and i have gcc and libtool.... anyone run into something like this ?
[10:59] <GuHHH> tarzeau: no way.
[10:59] <tarzeau> GuHHH: it's multiuser systems, without users having mount/umount right
[10:59] <tarzeau> GuHHH: i hate linux for this
[10:59] <GuHHH> tarzeau: no way. u are not on windows...
[10:59] <richb> Melti: g++
[10:59] <GuHHH> tarzeau: its simple, do as i told
[11:00] <MajorApus> how do I get rw on the data3
[11:00] <tarzeau> GuHHH: it's not possible, the users here don't have root permission
[11:00] <GuHHH> tarzeau: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/xxx /mnt/usb
[11:00] <crabgrass> one more mkfs question: what goes where for 'fs-options'?
[11:00] <LBM_> GuHHH, Beryl, 3D and 2D performance-improvements.. Well, not sure about them really, but vesa won`t even let me use 1024*768
[11:00] <MajorApus> i have to sleep
[11:00] <MajorApus> thanks
[11:01] <magnetron> tarzeau: you can give normal users rights to automount external drives, see system > adminsitration > useres
[11:01] <GuHHH> LBM_: okay, so its better to install nvidia drivers really :)
[11:01] <crabgrass> GuHHH: i don't see why not
[11:02] <GuHHH> crabgrass: depends on what u use linux for :)
[11:02] <crabgrass> !fs-options
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fs-options - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <Meltir> richb: thanks, that worked :)
[11:02] <crabgrass> GuHHH: true, i'm not used to working with less than 2gb ram =/
[11:02] <tarzeau> magnetron: they don't have that menu, not all of them use gnome
[11:02] <orbin> what plugin are people using for video/mp3 streaming in firefox?
[11:03] <crabgrass> orbin: gstreamer?
[11:03] <GuHHH> if i could i would let my xserver run with vesa, but i had to install fglrx driver, its was a pain in the ... until i could find it :P
[11:03] <magnetron> sorry what "them"?
[11:03] <magnetron> !codecs | orbin
[11:03] <ubotu> orbin: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:03] <GuHHH> tarzeau: cant u do that with sudo mount ... ?
[11:04] <crabgrass> okay, this look good?     sudo mkfs -v -c -t ext3 /dev/sda
[11:04] <tsubasaTaff> hello !
[11:04] <GuHHH> hi!
[11:04] <tsubasaTaff> I encounter a problem with breezy security
[11:05] <tsubasaTaff> when i try to apt-get update it fail with that
[11:05] <magnetron> !openweek
[11:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu is hosting a series of introductory sessions for people who want to join the Ubuntu community, which all takes place in a week. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek For logs please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts and http://www.tonyyarusso.is-a-geek.com/irclogs/openweek/
[11:05] <tsubasaTaff> http://rafb.net/p/MFIpB473.html
[11:05] <crabgrass> hmm... how do i count blocks on a disk?
[11:05] <magnetron> the Ubuntu OpenWeek is this week!
[11:06] <johns^> crabgrass: df   ?
[11:06] <orbin> crabgrass, magnetron: well i've installed totem-xine and totem-xine-firefox-plugin + w32codecs but files won't load for me.
[11:06] <johns^> crabgrass: or df -h
[11:06] <sharingos> hi
[11:06] <sharingos> I have created 3 version of this game  a pipe version, a thread one and this last that works with Shared memory and semaphores. in the first 2 version no problem with input, I have used getch and the function timeout (ncurses) so to make non blocking input, in this last case there is a problem getch doesn't works well and I must use getchar to make it non blocking. I have used a linux version of kbhit but there is a problem with buffering: if I press a
[11:06] <sharingos> key, the buffer is effectively written only if I press another key... any solution??
[11:06] <crabgrass> johns^: awesome, thanks
[11:06] <magnetron> orbin, what format is the files in?
[11:06] <vbanait> the openemr implementation appear to be very difficult. is there simple emr program
[11:07] <orbin> magnetron: well the one i'm trying is an mp3.
[11:08] <crabgrass> orbin: you need gstreamer ugly, i think
[11:08] <crabgrass> or ffmpeg
[11:08] <magnetron> vbanait: if you want a simple yet powerful solution, try the openoffice.org database software. no harm in testing it.
[11:08] <LBM_> richb, http://www.mediafire.com/?7mdwy0uheyw - My Xorg.log
[11:09] <[swb] > Feisty Fawn :D
[11:09] <[swb] > it is my opinion that ubuntu now runs better, supports more hardware, and is easier to use than the latest windows
[11:09] <[swb] > also its free
[11:09] <magnetron> !enter
[11:09] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:09] <crabgrass> [swb] : emphasis on runs better
[11:10] <[swb] > crabgrass, I just bought a new computer, admittedly its pretty powerful but Feisty with all beryl etc runs like a dream
[11:10] <kahrytan> swb: Not when it comes to wireless.
[11:10] <adonis> hey guys.. anyone know about the ndinswrapper problem with feisty fawn?
[11:10] <Parmenion> lol, always the worst eh
[11:11] <Parmenion> adonis, ndiswrapper problem ?
[11:11] <anandham> Hello All I have a problem copying mp3 files from a backup DVD
[11:11] <magnetron> kahrytan: the ndiswrapper is a real hack, don't blaim ubuntu for that
[11:11] <[swb] > kahrytan, no? last time I tried to use wireless it was a pain in the bum actually, but its funny that in general, Feisty works with more hardware than Vista
[11:11] <crabgrass> [swb] : any experiance in getting beryl not to kill performance when used with 3d-accelerated apps?
[11:11] <orbin> adonis: anyone in particular?
[11:11] <adonis> no.. don't get me wrong i love ubuntu
[11:11] <kahrytan> [swb]  Ndiswrapper does not count.  It's a cheat.
[11:11] <Seine> question: is it possible to debug "Enable Desktop Effects"? It has no effect for me. It tries to enable the effects for about 1 min, then reverts.
[11:11] <crabgrass> anandham: what error are you getting?
[11:11] <[swb] > crabgrass, what graphics card do you have?
[11:11] <adonis> i have a friend thats running a linksys wireless card in his laptop and he keeps getting that error
[11:12] <crabgrass> [swb] : geforce 7900gtx
[11:12] <anandham> Input I/O error while I try copying it
[11:12] <Emyr> morning all
[11:12] <JediMaster> hi all
[11:12] <crabgrass> anandham: sounds like a bad disc
[11:12] <adonis> It ask to install the ndiswrapper...
[11:12] <adonis> ahh..
[11:12] <[swb] > and I have not yet tested with running 3d accelerated stuff in beryl
[11:12] <adonis> hmm..
[11:12] <anandham> I can copy other data..
[11:12] <JediMaster> I'm trying to upgrade from the previous debian stable up to fiesty and having a headache with libc6
[11:12] <[swb] > I guess you could always turn off the composite extension and restart X but thats lame
[11:12] <anandham> like documents
[11:12] <kahrytan> [swb]  I use Wired Router anyways. I don't trust Wireless. To easy for hackers to break in.
[11:12] <Parmenion> i would manually install ndiswrapper to workaround first
[11:12] <[swb] > kahrytan, too right
[11:12] <vadvad> hi, how do i install a *.run file and *.rpm file?
[11:13] <[swb] > also the airwaves are getting crowded these days, as everyone and his dog now has a wireless AP
[11:13] <Parmenion> i prefer wireless for my laptop... all the rest of the connections are wireless
[11:13] <crabgrass> [swb] : admittedly, i haven't tried it in about two months, but framerate in WoW/HL2 dropped from ~150 with metacity to ~2 with beryl
[11:13] <vbanait> how can i fix association of lyx files with lyx
[11:13] <[swb] > vadvad, to install a .rpm, run alien on it to make it a deb
[11:13] <anandham> its the media files which are not getting copied from the DVD
[11:13] <adonis> sweet i will tell my friend about that thx parmenion
[11:13] <JediMaster> libc6 complained that it could not upgrade with a 2.4.x kernel, even though the dist-upgrade was going to install one, and every time I try and run any install/upgrade (such as apt-get -f install) I get: E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6
[11:13] <crabgrass> [swb] : that just means more free internet for me =D
[11:13] <[swb] > a run is normally just a binary, so chmod a+x it then do ./filename.run
[11:13] <vbanait> 2. is there any tool for batch conversion of lyx to pdf
[11:13] <magnetron> JediMaster: you can't upgrade from debian stable to ubuntu feisty. do a fresh install
[11:13] <haru> how do i find which version of gtk do i have
[11:13] <Parmenion> [swb] : true, but it doesnt matter so much now does it? its easier and more to configure
[11:13] <vadvad> run alien?
[11:14] <[swb] > crabgrass, do you reembmer if when you were doing that, when you were in beryl and did glxinfo, did it say DRI was on?
[11:14] <magnetron> haru, search for gtk in synaptic
[11:14] <JediMaster> magnetron: I beg to differ, I've done it on 3 other servers
[11:14] <[swb] > cause it enver used to for me when I was running beryl on my old system (ATI something or other) but on the new geforce it does
[11:14] <crabgrass> [swb] : i'm fairly sure it was on, yes
[11:14] <crabgrass> [swb] : or at least enabled.
[11:14] <Parmenion> lol crabgrass, i personally havent configured wireless as i just installed feisty, but i use mac filtering :P
[11:14] <kahrytan> [swb]   WPA2 is good though. I like the AES. but I just don't like the idea of someone breaking in through it. If there was fool proof way to defend against MAC spoofing  then it be safer.
[11:14] <Parmenion> so not so much of free wireless for you :P
[11:14] <[swb] > vadvad, apt-get install alien
[11:15] <[swb] > then do alien whatever.rpm
[11:15] <crabgrass> Parmenion: you'd be amazed at how few people even use WEP keys
[11:15] <[swb] > and it makes a .deb
[11:15] <JediMaster> magnetron: didn't have a single package/dependancy problem before either
[11:15] <[swb] > then do dpkg -i whatever.deb
[11:15] <vadvad> 10x
[11:15] <anandham> crabgrass. The files other than media formata re getting copied. I can't even run from the DVD also
[11:15] <[swb] > sorry I was using enter for punctuation again :(
[11:15] <crabgrass> Parmenion: and i'm using mac filtering in my wired router, even though i doubt it's necessassry
[11:15] <tarzeau> GuHHH: our users don't have root permission. the solution is i start gnome-volume-manager whenever a user logs in into x, as the users id
[11:15] <crabgrass> anandham: hmm, not sure
[11:16] <kahrytan> crabgrass: I know that for a fact. When I visited Hawai'i, a neighbor didn't use ANY security. I used their wifi to access internet on laptop.
[11:16] <vbanait> how can i fix association of lyx files with lyx
[11:16] <vbanait> how can i fix association of lyx files with lyx
[11:16] <crabgrass> kahrytan: did you try getting into the router itself?
[11:16] <magnetron> JediMaster: the procedure is not supported. if it happens to work, it is more of a luck
[11:16] <vbanait> how can i fix association of lyx files with lyx
[11:16] <[swb] > I have had no problems running 64bit ubuntu even, I expected that to be a little less smooth
[11:16] <JediMaster> magnetron: that's different =)
[11:16] <vadvad> after i click ctrl+alt+f2 how do i return to the graphic mode without restart?
[11:16] <adonis> so did anyone read the digg article about ubuntu and the dx10 hack?
[11:16] <vbanait> how can i fix association of lyx files with lyx
[11:16] <Parmenion> crabgrass: ive got 5 broadband wireless networks with decent signal right open for the picking even from my home
[11:16] <moonlite> How do i change what gcc-version is default in ubuntu? (ie sets the right symlink to /usr/bin/gcc)?
[11:16] <crabgrass> adonis: no, link please
[11:17] <kahrytan> crabgrass: I'm not a hacker.   I wonder if it still had the default password.
[11:17] <magnetron> !repeat | vbanait
[11:17] <ubotu> vbanait: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:17] <adonis> sure one sec..
[11:17] <moonlite> (plus some extra stuff i guess?)
[11:17] <crabgrass> Parmenion: scary
[11:17] <vadvad> after i push ctrl+alt+f2 how do i return to the graphic mode without restart?
[11:17] <Ng> vadvad: alt+f7
[11:17] <vadvad> 10x
[11:17] <PrMoriarty> hello
[11:17] <[swb] > vadvad, ctrl-alt-f7
[11:17] <Parmenion> crabgrass: yep ....
[11:17] <crabgrass> Parmenion: and to think... if they don't change the router's password, you can feed it a corrupt firmware update and brick it.
[11:17] <JediMaster> magnetron: a fresh install is not an option as we need as little as possible down time on this remote machine, done it locally (but via ssh only) on two nearly identical setups without any problems at all (was very suprised) and only 5-6 minutes downtime including reboot
[11:18] <crabgrass> Parmenion: such foolishness out there
[11:18] <PrMoriarty> do you know a vpn client on ubuntu
[11:18] <crabgrass> !patience
[11:18] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:18] <crabgrass> !trolls
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trolls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <PrMoriarty> ?
[11:18] <Parmenion> crabgrass:  i never thought of such an interesting attack vector XD
[11:18] <kahrytan> crabgrass: Why brick the router: just change the router settings to make only work for you. Effectively banning them from internet
[11:18] <Ng> PrMoriarty: there are plugins for network manager for both pptp and openvpn type vpns
[11:18] <[swb] > I remember using debian in 2001, and thinking one day linux on the desktop would be as awesome as ubuntu is now :)
[11:18] <crabgrass> kahrytan: not enough lulz
[11:18] <vbanait> how can i have @open with option for right click
[11:18] <PrMoriarty> i want to connect on a cisco vpn server
[11:19] <Ng> PrMoriarty: vpnc looks like it claims to be that
[11:19] <PrMoriarty> dunno if i need a special vpn client
[11:19] <crabgrass> kahrytan: and i assume they could to a hard reset on the box and get everything back
[11:19] <PrMoriarty> cool
[11:19] <crabgrass> kahrytan: well, assuming they knew they could do that
[11:19] <PrMoriarty> i seeking it so
[11:19] <kahrytan> crabgrass: True but they would learn their lesson.
[11:19] <crabgrass> and if they don't even have a password set, they probably don't
[11:19] <crabgrass> kahrytan: i hope so
[11:19] <adonis> crabgrass.. i will have to dig it up for you.. but it was about dx10 and gamming on ubuntu
[11:19] <PrMoriarty> i installed openvpn?
[11:19] <PrMoriarty> it is uselfull?
[11:19] <kahrytan> crabgrass: You could download illegal stuff on open wifi too.
[11:20] <crabgrass> adonis: how much different is dx10 from v9?
[11:20] <crabgrass> kahrytan: you sure could, you wouldn't even need tor
[11:20] <Parmenion> kahrytan: you are making me think too much ....
[11:20] <kahrytan> adonis: that article is on Slashdot?
[11:20] <madinfo> anyone can tell me why my ubuntu doesn't turn of the computer when i tell to do it ? only get black screen
[11:20] <Parmenion> crabgrass: a little too sick to be true.
[11:20] <adonis> probably not to much but i know it's a " bonus" in vista and works inconjuction w/ 8800 series graphics cards
[11:20] <adonis> not sure what the big diff is.
[11:20] <crabgrass> kahrytan: which brings me to my next question... is it possible to distribute your connection over multiple routers?
[11:21] <PrMoriarty> Ng: do you know how run vpnc?
[11:21] <det> What is the replacement for PLF?
[11:21] <Parmenion> crabgrass: why not ? a single connection, but just daisy chaining it down right ?
[11:21] <kahrytan> adonis: Slashdot has article posting on DX10 hack.
[11:21] <crabgrass> kahrytan: ex.: if two of my neighbors have open wifi, can i use each one to download half a file?
[11:21] <adonis> Thats it slashdot sry guys thx kahrytan
[11:22] <Bokeh> crabgrass: you could trunk them
[11:22] <crabgrass> kahrytan: have a link to it?
[11:22] <zaggynl> !bandwidth
[11:22] <kahrytan> crabgrass: I wouldn't know
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bandwidth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <zaggynl> !shaping
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shaping - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <crabgrass> Bokeh: trunk? thought that was part of a phone system
[11:22] <zaggynl> Anyone knows good bandwidth shaping (at desktop) software? trickle doesn't do the job here
[11:22] <sikor_sxe> hello, i just updated to feisty from edgy. now i have the problem that on logon it takes several minutes for the startup
[11:22] <sikor_sxe> the gnome startup that is
[11:22] <Bokeh> trunking is basically loadbalancing multiple network connections
[11:23] <crabgrass> !trunk
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trunk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <sikor_sxe> i can start apps, but there is no wm
[11:23] <crabgrass> !trunking
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trunking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <Parmenion> crabgrass: i dont think its possible simultaneously
[11:23] <Bokeh> so no, you can't do a single connection over 2 different lines, but you can do 2 connections over 2 lines, so basically loadbalancing the network load
[11:23] <Bokeh> it
[11:23] <Bokeh> it's quite complex though
[11:23] <crabgrass> Bokeh: do you need a router on your end for this, or just a nic?
[11:23] <Parmenion> not to mention, how do you specify the exact file break?
[11:23] <magnetron_> crabgrass please try out new !keywords in pm to ubotu
[11:23] <Parmenion> !keywords
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keywords - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <Parmenion> whoo
[11:23] <Bokeh> you'd need 2 nics at least
[11:24] <kahrytan> adonis:http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/23/1348239
[11:24] <Bokeh> and a dedicated router is recommended.
[11:24] <crabgrass> magnetron_: didn't think of that, will do.
[11:24] <Bokeh> i did it on my work desktop a while ago to test something, but it's not really useful on a single workstation :)
[11:24] <crabgrass> Bokeh: so is this something you set up on your router, or on your machine?
[11:24] <Bokeh> and it's not worth the trouble unless you're a big bucks company that loses out on customers if their network connection is down
[11:25] <crabgrass> Bokeh: oh, so you can't use it to speed up downloads?
[11:25] <Parmenion> lol
[11:25] <adonis> Thanks Kahrytan..
[11:25] <Bokeh> nope
[11:25] <crabgrass> or at least distribute them
[11:25] <csj> hi all, when I enable desktop effect and then view GTK+ API using firefox, the title will be strange like this picture http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=471083047&size=o
[11:25] <Bokeh> you can ofcourse use it to load balance multiple connections
[11:25] <crabgrass> Bokeh: bummer... i'll still look into it, though, sounds cool.
[11:25] <Parmenion> !ping
[11:25] <kahrytan> adonis: It is the wrapper link that mentions Linux. It is truely hacked. WINE dev team be interested in it.
[11:25] <ubotu> pong
[11:25] <Bokeh> so connection 1 goes to line 1, connection 2 goes to line 2, connection 3 goes to line 1, etc. etc.
[11:26] <Bokeh> or you can use it as a backup line.... for example, you have a high-speed Gbit link at your colocation, and you have a backup DSL line going to your router
[11:26] <Bokeh> so in case your provider screws up you still have a fallback connection
[11:26] <crabgrass> hmm.
[11:26] <Bokeh> http://www.linuxhorizon.ro/bonding.html is a nice article
[11:27] <Bokeh> and http://sourceforge.net/projects/bonding/ is the sf project
[11:27] <magnetron_> Parmenion, try PM ubotu
[11:27] <Bokeh> it's a  bitch to set up though, be prepared to pull out lots of hairs :)
[11:27] <vbanait>  i need electronic medical record system for ubuntu. simple
[11:27] <crabgrass> Bokeh: thanks for the links
[11:27] <Parmenion> PM ubotu
[11:27] <Parmenion> lol
[11:27] <Parmenion> that was dumb
[11:27] <LBM_> Hm... Is there a way to uninstall Gaim without uninstalling "ubuntu-desktop"?
[11:27] <adonis> hopefully it actually is not a hoax..i only keep a windows box around for the games..
[11:28] <kalin> hi, i'm trying to run winecfg, and when i click the audio tab it closes with an error that /dev/snd/seq does not exist. anyone know what this might indicate?
[11:28] <what_if> LBM_: no
[11:28] <|ringo|> LBM_: find gaim in synaptic and uncheck the box, then hit apply
[11:28] <adonis> be nice to convert to another nix flavor
[11:28] <crabgrass> Bokeh: ah, so it's just for redundancy, not actual throughput
[11:28] <what_if> LBM_: but "ubuntu-desktop" is just a meta-package
[11:28] <Bokeh> you can use it for actual throughput as well.
[11:28] <kahrytan> Pidgin, Not GAIM
[11:28] <crabgrass> ooo.
[11:28] <Bokeh> if you trunk 2 1Gbit connections, you'll effectively have 2 x 1Gbit
[11:29] <Bokeh> depends on how you set it up though. round-robin, active backup, balance, etc.
[11:29] <magnetron_> vbanait: all i can say is that the openmrs folks are working on it. did you try openoffice database?
[11:29] <crabgrass> do they have to have the same speed or can they be asynchronous?
[11:29] <kahrytan> GAIM changed it's name to Pidgin. And it's next release will reflect it.
[11:29] <Bokeh> they can be asynchronous
[11:29] <crabgrass> kahrytan: gin? really? that's a bad name.
[11:29] <crabgrass> *pidgin
[11:29] <Bokeh> though i wouldn't do that for broadcast or balance modes
[11:29] <LBM_> Thanks, I`ll try it
[11:29] <Bokeh> only for round robin and active-backup
[11:29] <vbanait> Putting it myself on ooo database is a huge task.
[11:30] <crabgrass> ... is there any way to unbind my [insert]  key? i've never in my life used it.
[11:30] <Bokeh> pidgin? :D
[11:30] <|ringo|> anyone know if compiling truecrypt kernel module should take 30+ minutes?
[11:30] <kahrytan> crabgrass: A pidgin is a simplified language that develops as a means of communication between two or more groups who do not share a common language, in situations such as trade.
[11:30] <kahrytan> crabgrass: It is a fitting name.
[11:31] <crabgrass> kahrytan: oh, it's a real term.
[11:31] <crabgrass> kahrytan: +10 to credibility
[11:31] <kahrytan> crabgrass: Many people on Slashdot complained too.
[11:32] <crabgrass> kahrytan: now that i've wiki'd it, i like it.
[11:32] <crabgrass> and anomie, that's another good one
[11:32] <kahrytan> crabgrass:  The name fits. i just wish it got into Feisty.
[11:32] <sand_storm> Hi, can anyone tell me how i can open an MS access file on linux
[11:33] <kditty> !upgrade
[11:33] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:33] <thebillywayne> sand_storm, in Open Office i think.
[11:33] <sand_storm> it doesn't open them
[11:34] <thebillywayne> sand_storm, what's the file's extension?
[11:34] <sand_storm> mdb
[11:34] <kahrytan> Which is better, Gnome Office, KDE Office or Open Office?
[11:34] <crabgrass> pidgin > jabber
[11:34] <crabgrass> 'jabber' sound so disorganized >.>
[11:34] <what_if> kahrytan: openoffice
[11:34] <belfegor> what is the comand to see may own ip?
[11:34] <thebillywayne> sand_storm, have you tried opening it through the File Browser?
[11:34] <crabgrass> netstat
[11:35] <Bokeh> kahrytan: openoffice if you want compatibility with ms office and lots and lots of features
[11:35] <what_if> belfegor: ifconfig
[11:35] <sand_storm> i will try that..
[11:35] <sand_storm> i opened it from the open office
[11:35] <kahrytan> What is Gnome Office and KDE Office? What is based on?
[11:35] <haru> how do i configure ubuntu to expand/maximize to a part of screen.. say upto the dockbar
[11:35] <thebillywayne> sand_storm, did it open it successfully?
[11:35] <Bokeh> abiworld (aka gnome office) if you just want to type and have a quick, responsive writer
[11:35] <vadvad> when i try to install alien i get 2 (EE) 1.cound not open lock file 2. unable to lock the admin directory.  help anyone?
[11:35] <sand_storm> no
[11:36] <sand_storm> opened an unreadble file
[11:36] <thebillywayne> sand_storm, are you gettting any error messages?
[11:36] <thebillywayne> oh
[11:36] <sand_storm> no
[11:36] <kahrytan> One of my favorite parts of Open Office is PDF export.
[11:36] <what_if> vadvad: is synaptic running somewhere else ?
[11:36] <else> i don't know
[11:36] <vadvad> whats synaptic?
[11:36] <_XeN_> lol
[11:36] <jijutm> hi all .. the DVD of feisty downloaded.. does not permit a network install ..
[11:36] <kahrytan> vadvad: ubuntu software install for gnome.
[11:36] <_XeN_> vadvad are you root?
[11:36] <else> vadvad, a frontend for apt
[11:36] <what_if> vadvad: the default gui package manager
[11:36] <naja_> hi
[11:37] <vadvad> yas i am root..
[11:37] <_XeN_> hm
[11:37] <Bokeh> jijutm: what's the error message?
[11:37] <kahrytan> vadvad: Log out of Root now.
[11:37] <vadvad> mm i dont think so..
[11:37] <what_if> vadvad: are there any other installs currently running ?
[11:37] <vadvad> no..
[11:37] <_XeN_> vadvad your prolly have synaptic running or something else that locks the directory
[11:37] <vadvad> nothing running..
[11:37] <kahrytan> vadvad: You don't need it. Use sudo
[11:38] <jijutm> bokeh: first of all .. the kernel from the netboot pack is probing for CD.. and just refuses anything else..
[11:38] <sand_storm> so, i want to open a ".mdb" file
[11:38] <haru> how do i configure ubuntu to expand/maximize to a part of screen.. say upto the dockbar
[11:38] <what_if> vadvad: something could have locked() the directory and then crashed... reboot :)
[11:38] <vadvad> use sudo insted of alien?
[11:38] <jijutm> Then I tried that from the netboot pack of a beta alternative cd... and now it says: no kernel modules found..
[11:38] <_XeN_> lol no
[11:38] <jijutm> some workaround was also mentioned
[11:38] <vadvad> reboot is good?
[11:38] <_XeN_> sudo is like fakeroot
[11:38] <vadvad> :)
[11:39] <PloneDudez> hi..how to find the webroot in my ubuntu server ....
[11:39] <what_if> vadvad: he's saying use sudo instead of logging in as root
[11:39] <_XeN_> like sudo apt-get install alien
[11:39] <jijutm> but with a warning that the installation is likely to fail.
[11:39] <_XeN_> or sudo -s -H
[11:39] <what_if> PlanarPlatypus: /var/www/
[11:39] <_XeN_> and then your command
[11:39] <_XeN_> :)
[11:39] <akey__> Hello, I can't update my edgy dist, can anybody help me?
[11:39] <what_if> PlanarPlatypus: if using apache
[11:39] <akey__> the message that I get when I try it is: "Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/Release Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)"
[11:39] <vadvad> ok i'll reboot and see if it works..
[11:39] <vadvad> 10x
[11:39] <kahrytan> vadvad: It is safer to user sudo then log in as root.
[11:39] <_XeN_> true
[11:39] <_XeN_> :)
[11:39] <thebillywayne> sand_storm, you can convert it using mysql, I think.
[11:39] <kahrytan> *USE
[11:40] <jijutm> bokeh: first of all .. the kernel from the netboot pack is probing for CD.. and just refuses anything else..
[11:40] <sand_storm> how?
[11:40] <vadvad> safer how?
[11:40] <_XeN_> its harder to be exploited
[11:40] <kahrytan> and protects system files.
[11:40] <_XeN_> plus if someone gains access to your system they dont have root access
[11:40] <crabgrass> and if you mistype something, there's far less chance of it being a catastrophe
[11:40] <_XeN_> so they cant really do as much as tehy would like :)
[11:40] <_XeN_> so its much safer
[11:41] <PloneDudez> hi, does anyone knows how to find the webroot folder in the ubuntu server...
[11:41] <vadvad> walla(a word in hebrew meanning - i got it!)
[11:41] <kditty> if i want to upgrade from dapper to edgy to feisty is it ok to use the feisty dvd after the edgy 700mb install cd? and also what is the benefit of the dvd install?
[11:41] <wimdows> hi - have installed VMWare Server, but can't seem to start it...though I could initially right after install
[11:41] <barbarossa> Dear friends. I've just had an issue with xchat-gnome. It may be a a security related thing as well. I made a search to see if its worth to report a bug. Then I realized that my xchat-gnome version is 0.13. But as stated in projects main Web area, last version is 0.17. 4th version after mine. And mine (0.13) is what synaptic offers me. Neither automatically updated nor it still offers newer versions at the moment. How can it be? It's a gnome project a
[11:41] <barbarossa> nd Ubuntu is one of the main GNOME platforms if its not the first one. Now that I don't even want to deal with bug reporting for that problem. xchat developers produced 4 more version after that fixing many many bugs. What is the use of still dealing with that age old version anymore. I'm really upset. What can yu say?
[11:41] <kahrytan> vadvad: You can use sudo (for bash) or gksudo for gui apps that need admin access.
[11:41] <akey__> hello, I can't update my edgy dist, the message that I get when I try it is: "Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/Release Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)"
[11:41] <_XeN_> kditty why would you wanna do all that upgrading? why not just do a fresh install?
[11:42] <jijutm> ploneduez: you should find it configured somewhere in the /etc/apache2/*.conf
[11:42] <haru> how do i configure ubuntu to expand/maximize to a part of screen.. say upto the dockbar
[11:42] <PloneDudez> thanks, jijutm...will look into it..
[11:42] <kahrytan> haru: what do you mean?
[11:43] <jenda> I'm trying to compile foo2zjs - can someone help me identify the error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17377/
[11:43] <jenda> I can't figure it out :(
[11:43] <haru> kahrytan, i just installed a dock applet like tiger OS
[11:43] <yo2lux> What package I need to install to use ./configure, ./make and ./make install ?
[11:43] <|ringo|> haru: whats the doc applet called?
[11:43] <kanzie> can someone help me with htpasswd in Apache, the apache-channel has noone that knows!
[11:43] <_XeN_> jenda automatix2 will install it for you :)
[11:43] <kditty> _XeN_, id like to keep my settings and programs, ive backed some up but im worried that ill lose data like i always do after a fresh install, something i forgot to back up like always :x
[11:43] <JanK> hi all
[11:43] <haru> kahrytan, avant
[11:43] <jenda> _XeN_: no it won't... I wouldn't touch automatix.
[11:44] <_XeN_> so kditty then do a clean install but keep your /home :)
[11:44] <crabgrass> wow, ext3's pretty fast in it's own right; just under an hour to move 85 gigs between disks
[11:44] <jijutm> I finished my torrent feisty DVD early today.. and to my dismay.. it does not support installing from the iso.. and now neither from network.. a big waste of 4G bandwidth..
[11:44] <thebillywayne> sand_storm, try this.  http://sourceforge.net/projects/mdbtools/
[11:44] <haru> |ringo|, its called avant
[11:44] <|ringo|> haru: cool
[11:44] <haru> |ringo|, its called avant window navigator
[11:44] <kditty> im really considering a fresh install, i just have a few worries like networking settings and mounted drives and such that took me a while to set up
[11:44] <|ringo|> haru: been looking for one for some time now
[11:44] <yo2lux> What package I need to install to use ./configure, ./make and ./make install ?
[11:44] <bezibaerch3n> how to start network-manager-openvpn via sudo? i guess that is the problem
[11:44] <_XeN_> jenda why wouldnt you touch automatix?
[11:44] <kahrytan> haru: You want to move it to the top?
[11:44] <JanK> Is there a way to disable libata at boot time with kernel parameter? libata steals my cdrom
[11:44] <what_if> jenda: do you have the source file with the error I can look at (pastebin)
[11:44] <wimdows> where can I see a diagnostics log to find out why a program didn't start?
[11:44] <jenda> !automatix | _XeN_
[11:44] <ubotu> _XeN_: Automatix2 is a proprietary script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:45] <eRazor> Hi all
[11:45] <jenda> what_if: http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/foo2zjs.tar.gz
[11:45] <haru> kahrytan, no i want it such that when i maximize an application.. the applicatins lower window border stays well above my dockbar
[11:45] <voRia> hi :)
[11:45] <haru> like it stays above the default panels
[11:45] <jenda> _XeN_: hmm, sorry, that's outdated - aut'x might not be proprietary any more.
[11:45] <kditty> _XeN_, are all my settings in my home dir? bookmarks and program settings etc?
[11:45] <jenda> _XeN_: but it's still a very bad idea to use it IMO
[11:45] <sand_storm> thebillywayne thanks!!
[11:45] <_XeN_> ehh it works fine for me and when i do have a problem its usally not hard to fix
[11:45] <crabgrass> jenda: it still breaks things, though
[11:46] <what_if> jenda: have you tried an older version of the source ?
[11:46] <eRazor> I formatted 2 partitions in fat32 format of 15GB each to a single partition in ext3 format without specifying the mount piint
[11:46] <eRazor> *point
[11:46] <jenda> what_if: nope, should I?
[11:46] <jenda> what_if: I'm on Feisty
[11:46] <wimdows> is there a system-wide log file somewhere that tells me why an app didn't start?
[11:46] <haru> kahrytan, any ideas?
[11:46] <kahrytan> haru: Nope. I don't use it.
[11:46] <eRazor> Can someone help me? I want to use these partitions as Logical Volumes
[11:46] <pacey> did recently anyone manage to get graphics acceleration on an amilo li 1705 running (via chipset)
[11:46] <orbin> barbarossa: i've probably got it wrong but i think the release gets frozen and candidate packages have to meet a certain deadline.  i can see where you're coming from.  the version of ndiswrapper packaged with feisty has a bug that stops me from using wireless.  i had to compile the latest.
[11:46] <kahrytan> haru: I don't use a compositor.
[11:46] <haru> kahrytan, thanks anyways
[11:47] <haru> how do i configure ubuntu to expand/maximize to a part of screen.. say upto a dockbar
[11:47] <jenda> crabgrass: very much so - from what I hear.
[11:47] <what_if> jenda: do you have the C development libraries installed ?
[11:48] <jenda> what_if: muhehe... maybe I don't - it's a nearly fresh install. Is that in build-essential?
[11:48] <eRazor> Can someone help me in creating and managing Logical Volumes?
[11:48] <crabgrass> jenda: take it from my personal experience; it does
[11:48] <orbin> wimdows: did you initiate the stat?  or was it something you set to happen at boot?
[11:48] <what_if> jenda: I dunno, try libc6-dev
[11:48] <jenda> crabgrass: don't worry, I'm not touching it - I've been around long enough to know the evil it is ;)
[11:48] <orbin> wimdows: try running it from a terminal if it's persistent.
[11:49] <yo2lux> What package I need to install to use ./configure, ./make and ./make install ?
[11:49] <what_if> jenda: and build-essential is for building debian packages, not compiling from source
[11:49] <jenda> what_if: ok, will install that, then.
[11:50] <wimdows> orbin - yes, I initiated it...ok - will try from term to see if I get an error
[11:50] <what_if> yo2lux: make
[11:50] <yo2lux> yes but ./configure not work
[11:50] <bloodMuffin> hellpppp
[11:50] <kahrytan> yo2lux: does the directory has a configure script?
[11:50] <mrcreativity> how do i autostart beryl?
[11:50] <mc44> jenda: you know foo2zjs is in the repos, right? :P
[11:51] <yo2lux> no
[11:51] <crabgrass> lol not like that, that was the close window button
[11:51] <bloodMuffin> help with grub and partitions please
[11:51] <_Lockee> Hello all.
[11:51] <rsa_md5> hey guys, instead of using 'burn an image' option in Nero, I 'added' the iso file in the CD-RW. Now the CD-RW can't be read and can't be erased also.......help please
[11:51] <kahrytan> yo2lux:  then thats why configure doesn't work.
[11:51] <jenda> mc44: I also know that 1) my printer doesn't work with it and 2) the author says I shouldn't use it on his site...
[11:51] <PloneDudez> hei guys, how to find which folders are designated as webroot folders ah... i am reading the /etc/apache2/apache2.conf...am i supp to find here..if so under which seciton..thanks
[11:51] <Gendo> hi
[11:51] <bloodMuffin> i copied my old partition to a new one and now grub gives me error 17
[11:51] <crabgrass> rsa_md5: try closing the disc, then erasing it
[11:51] <Parmenion> rsa_md5: shred the cd and burn a proper one
[11:51] <what_if> jenda: ok, let me know if the libs works ):
[11:52] <crabgrass> well, goodnight all
[11:52] <mc44> jenda: bah, any excuse. You are a gentoo user at heart, really
[11:52] <rsa_md5> err......'closing' and 'shredding'......could u pls elaborate?
[11:52] <Parmenion> crabgrass: how to I find out what router people are using when they vary from the default essid
[11:52] <jenda> mc44: :) Try /ctcp version ;)
[11:52] <kditty> what is the difference in an ubuntu regular cd, and an ubuntu dvd?
[11:52] <Parmenion> how to I find out what router people are using when they vary from the default essid
[11:52] <PloneDudez> rsa_md4: he just wants to discard it..)
[11:52] <Gendo> guys Ubuntu noobie here... can someone help me with RAID0 ICH7R install?
[11:53] <Parmenion> the ubuntu dvd has packages on disc
[11:53] <bloodMuffin> helpppp how do i set GRUB to boot a new partition, not the old one
[11:53] <Parmenion> when grub is booting up, press "e"
[11:53] <mc44> jenda: it is non specific :)
[11:53] <what_if> bloodMuffin: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:53] <thebillywayne> sand_storm, hope it works for you. :)
[11:53] <rsa_md5> crabgrass:what about 'closing' the disc?
[11:53] <Parmenion> or anything to that extent
[11:54] <kditty> Parmenion, do they give an option to install packs during os install, or would i have to install from disk just like i install from the internet?
[11:54] <jenda> what_if: it's installing libstdc++6-4.1-dev as part of build-essential... I hope std's can't be carried by c++ code ;)
[11:54] <what_if> jenda: lol
[11:54] <bloodMuffin> ive tried editing menu.lst, and i still obtain error 17 when grub tries to load
[11:54] <bloodMuffin> pressing e has no effect
[11:54] <Gendo> anyone? :\
[11:54] <jenda> mc44: really? It should say gentoo... the shell ;)
[11:54] <Parmenion> kditty: i have no idea ... but i believe that they would modify the installation to a certain extent ....
[11:54] <PloneDudez> hei guys, how to find which folders are designated as webroot folders ah... anyone knoes...or is this really complicated stuff
[11:54] <mc44> -jenda- VERSION irssi v0.8.10 - running on Linux i686
[11:55] <Parmenion> but most probably you would need to install it from the dvd ...
[11:55] <jenda> mc44: I see. Well it's gentoo ;)
[11:55] <Parmenion> could anyone point me to a kismet guide ?
[11:55] <eRazor> can help in creating a logical volume please????
[11:55] <wimdows> orbin - seems like VMWare Server doesn't think it's properly configured - even though I configured it correctly before
[11:56] <darren> how do i reboot emu ?
[11:56] <darren> qemu
[11:56] <fulat2k> eRazor: have you created a partition?
[11:56] <bloodMuffin> !grub
[11:56] <kanzie> which software do you recommend "Brasero" or "GnomeBaker"
[11:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:56] <jenda> kanzie: I recommend trying both ;) Brasero is rather cool... gnomebaker is not bad either.
[11:56] <wimdows> when trying to run vmware-config.pl again - it now can't stop the Virtual Ethernet service - resulting in not being able to complete the configuration
[11:57] <eRazor> fulat2k: I have created a partition as ext3
[11:57] <eRazor> fulat2k: it is a 30GB partition
[11:57] <jenda> what_if: BTW, libc6-dev is also included in build-essential
[11:57] <AnRkey> hi all
[11:57] <Madpilot> kanzie, for basic data burning, just use the CD/DVD Creator in the file manager. For music, use Serpentine.
[11:57] <eRazor> fulat2k: I did not specify any mount point
[11:57] <Chetwin> Is this where I come for 6.06 support?
[11:58] <fulat2k> eRazor: cool.  well, get into fdisk and change the partition type to 8e (Linux LVM)
[11:58] <what_if> jenda: nice, I only looked at the summary :)
[11:58] <Madpilot> Chetwin, sure
[11:58] <kanzie> Im just gonna burn a dvd with files
[11:58] <AnRkey> does anyone know what the mac style bar at the bottom of this pic is called? http://static.flickr.com/112/284328104_6995c6f4b7_o.jpg
[11:58] <kanzie> Madpilot: Im just gonna burn a dvd with files
[11:58] <Chetwin> I don't have alsa support
[11:58] <Chetwin> can I just install alsa?
[11:58] <eRazor> fulat2k: Even thats done
[11:58] <Madpilot> kanzie, then use the file manager - drop your blank DVD in, go from there.
[11:58] <jenda> what_if: and yep, it works now :) thanks... I guess I shouldda thought of that... since it has probably happened every time I clean installed so far ;)
[11:58] <fulat2k> eRazor: great.  now run pvcreate /dev/<partition>
[11:59] <what_if> jenda: yeah, I started looking at the errors and it was missing <stdio.h> / dead givaway
[11:59] <eRazor> fulat2k: my partition is /dev/hda8
[11:59] <topato> I've installed a printer on a linux machine with CUPS and shared it on my LAN. I can access it via the browser on port 631, yet I cannot see it in os x printer browser.. should I share it with samba or something else?
[11:59] <eRazor> fulat2k: Should I replace that for the pvcreate command?
[11:59] <fulat2k> eRazor: yes
[11:59] <_Lockee> Hello all. I am having huge problems with vmware player and madwifi. When vmware services starts during install the following fails: "Bridged networking on /dev/vmnet0 failed" and  "NAT service on /dev/vmnet8 failed". I've done some reading and know there's something with the madwifi. So I have the latest madwifi (cvs:ed it today), I have also tried to commet out the USE_HEADERLEN_RESV part. No luck so far
[12:00] <fulat2k> eRazor: do you have any existing volume group?
[12:00] <eRazor> fulat2k: No
[12:00] <eRazor> fulat2k: I did pvcreate
[12:00] <_Lockee> Any help would be very much appriciated