[07:08] <dr_willis> and a 9600 baud serial connection to the college network was a fancy thing for my C128
[07:08] <blake> hahahaha.. :) wow..
[07:08] <Cub> with that said.. it took me a week to learn  win 7 :\
[07:09] <caribou> zx spectrum 24k
[07:09] <Modernmy1h> I'm trying to update my grub boot screen on 12.10 .. so far I've done: update-alternatives --config default.plymouth, sudo update-initramfs -u, and the next step would be update-grub2? Running with 12.10 full disk encryption.
[07:09] <dr_willis> theres the 'task' focused method,.,   how do i do this specific thing..  vs how to i get the whole job done.. mentality
[07:09] <dr_willis> I had a timex slincare 1000 on my wall. ;)
[07:09] <fedor> hi there, i have a problem as discussed here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2035622 is there a roundabout way to get it solved?
[07:10] <dr_willis> fedor:  you could at least give a small sumamry of the issue
[07:10] <shoop> I have a question for everyone how much cpu should my system be using as a general range I'm currently running ubuntu 12.04
[07:10] <dr_willis> shoop:  sitting idling in X11 here with irc going.. a few % points
[07:10] <shoop> well its at about 80%
[07:10] <fedor> i guess i can copy the issue discussed there. the webcam works OK in cheese and skype, but in Chrome and Firefox (flash 11.2 plugin) it only shows a green screen, I think it is probably a flash plugin issue...
[07:11] <dr_willis> shoop:   use htop - see whats usong it all
[07:11] <shoop> its compiz
[07:11] <dr_willis> fedor:  yep, flash and webcams seem tobe4 a common issue.
[07:11] <dr_willis> shoop:  that is weird. What video chipset?
[07:11] <shoop> and java is at 25%
[07:11] <dr_willis> shoop:  java? you got a browser open?
[07:12] <shoop> i have minecraft running and skype as well as this
[07:12] <dr_willis> well there ya go.
[07:12] <dr_willis> Minecraft is a hog.
[07:12] <shoop> but idle i still geet 80%
i was thinking about nvidia cards but then i saw that issue discussed and now i am thinking to deal with flash
[07:12] <aeon-ltd> shoop: what cpu is this?
[07:12] <cfhowlett> skype is probably pretty hungry as well
[07:12] <shoop> amd radeon
[07:12] <shoop> skype is really low
[07:12] <aeon-ltd> shoop: more specific than that please
[07:13] <shoop> what can i type in to the terminal to find that out kinda new but kinda not
[07:13] <dr_willis> fedor:  i find i have the best luck with nvidia cards that i find at the 'most power for the price' :) the last years cards that are being replaced by newer cards.. been out a while. been tested.. and are now decently priced
[07:13] <dr_willis> htop shows all sorts of info shoop
[07:13] <aeon-ltd> shoop: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:14] <gnomefreak> what is fusion?
[07:14] <blake> but he needs to apt-get htop first right?
[07:14] <Cub> top does as well
[07:14] <Cub> type 'top' in terminal, gives cpu usage etc
[07:14] <gnomefreak> IIRC htop gives you more
[07:14] <gnomefreak> but top works great
[07:14] <Cub> im too lazy to apt-get :\
[07:14] <aeon-ltd> htop is worth dl'ing
[07:15] <blake> just use top then?
[07:16] <dr_willis> my nvidia card is getting to be old. ;) and its my most powerfull pc.. [GeForce GT 530]
[07:17] <Cub> i'm using a trs-80 dr_willis
[07:17] <blake> wew.. I just got lock-file create error thing.. enlighten me please
[07:17] <dr_willis> Cub:  had one..
[07:18] <Queen`Bee> trs-80?
[07:18] <Queen`Bee> really?
[07:18] <dr_willis> details please. ;)
[07:18] <dr_willis> Queen`Bee:  yes.. with a tape casset drive. ;P
[07:18] <Queen`Bee> wow
[07:18] <dr_willis> compared to the timex-sinclare-1000 ;) the tsr-80 was high-tech
[07:19] <aeon-ltd> shoop: you still here?
[07:19] <blake> nevermind, its about guake.brb
[07:19] <shoop> little late on this my cpu is AMD Athlon(tm) II P340 Dual-Core Processor × 2
[07:20] <Cub> trs-80 is way safer than any system out there today
[07:20] <Cub> there are virtually no viruses for it :)
[07:20] <blake> #unity
[07:20]  * dr_willis flashes his Raspberry-Pi
[07:20] <Cub> lol
[07:21] <dr_willis> I got a C64 game player thing thats in a Atari Joystick. ;)
[07:21] <aeon-ltd> shoop: running what you said, 80% is reasonable. to truly test if it's still 80% idling you'd have to make sure the processes in top/htop are not running then wait for the next few updates
[07:21] <dr_willis> night all
[07:21] <aeon-ltd> nacht
[07:22] <gnomefreak> i miss my ATARI :(
[07:22] <shoop> see and the thing is i have used ubuntu before for about a year  when it was 11.04 and i really didnt have this issue so i was just wounder if it was bug in my system monitor or somethign else
[07:22] <makara-> night
[07:22] <gnomefreak> sorry for caps
[07:22] <blake> I played super mario bro on our nintendo ..zzz
[07:22] <gnomefreak> night
[07:22] <Cub> gnomefreak, so do i... i had one of those old 6 switchers.
[07:23] <gnomefreak> me too
[07:23] <Cub> had a couple of rare titles, i found out now are worth money
[07:23] <Cub> all gone now, went to the trash years ago :\
[07:23] <aeon-ltd> shoop: it may be fixed in the next X update
[07:23] <blake> i once played top down view tetris like game, I can't seem to recall what's the game called
[07:24]  * gnomefreak cant find good info on fusion
[07:25] <shoop> ok thanks :) been helpful way better then looking all over the net for this info.
[07:25] <Cub> blake, and gnomefreak  a good place to discuss this would be #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:25] <aeon-ltd> shoop: if it's really cutting into battery life, make a forum post
[07:26] <blake> :) yeah.. sorry
[07:26] <gnomefreak> Cub: that is why i stoped commenting
[07:27] <Cub> it's np, just saying before an op gets on us hehe
[07:27] <gnomefreak> .~/me an op
[07:27] <Cub> then you should know better :P
[07:28]  * gnomefreak honestly thought we were in -ot
[07:28] <gnomefreak> its late here so my brain is not yet workihng
[07:29] <Cub> i suppose it would not be a huge issue if the room is kinda slow though?
[07:29] <Cub> as long as people don't get the wrong idea of the purpose of the channel
[07:30] <we6jbo> I need to conserve battery life in my notebook running Ubuntu. Is there a good mp4 video player that can be configured to save battery power?
[07:30] <blake> can someone tell me how to get this off? *** glibc detected *** lockfile-create: free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x09b44008 ***
[07:30] <gnomefreak> it normally does matter
[07:30] <makara_> gnomefreak, thx 4 htop
[07:30] <gnomefreak> makara_: np
[07:31] <Cub> we6jbo, perhaps this post will be helpful ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2039132
[07:31] <we6jbo> Thanks Cub I'll check that out
[07:32] <gnomefreak> i installed fusion i clicked the icon in dash and nothing happens what a waste of time and energy
[07:32] <Cub> yup
[07:32] <blake> *** glibc detected *** lockfile-create: free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x09b44008 ***
[07:32] <Cub> oops we6jbo
[07:32] <Cub> that was for blake
[07:33] <Cub> blake my post was for you
[07:33] <blake> i see.. brb
[07:33] <Cub> sorry about that, i've been busy all day setting up computers
[07:35] <rhin0> how do I get files across to an sd ram card -- appears to copy but is blank
[07:43] <rhin0> anyone know how to enable ssh on android
[07:43] <rhin0> ssh server
[07:45] <Senjai> rhin0: you should probably ask in an android related channel
[07:45] <Gumby> rhin0: might want to ask in #android or #android-dev (I think those are the channels)
[07:47] <zjhxmjl> hi,guys,how to remove duplicate menu?
[07:48] <zjhxmjl> http://h.hiphotos.baidu.com/zhidao/wh%3D450%2C600/sign=aae4b1479358d109c4b6a1b6e468e089/3bf33a87e950352ab1ecf7315243fbf2b2118b7e.jpg
[07:48] <rhin0> ah thought I was there
[07:48] <elfer> imgur?
[07:48] <sail> ok so i just setup my ftp server now i want to share a file with ipaddress which user can access from a browser?
[07:49] <sail> like i want to create a ftp site
[07:50] <flintser> sail: any user, if you havent configured special rules.
[07:50] <flintser> you might want to chroot users and disable root if it is not already
[07:51] <sail> this is not a issue i just need to create a ftp site so user can access my shared file through ftp i.e:ftp://ip-address/hostname
[07:51] <sail> @ flintser
[07:52] <sail> flintser: it solved
[07:52] <flintser> just try to write it
[07:52] <flintser> it should work and ask for user
[07:53] <sever> всем привет
[07:57] <helmut_> hi
[07:58] <cfhowlett> helmut_, greetings
[08:08] <N03L> Hello people.
[08:08] <N03L> What's on the agenda for today?
[08:08] <cfhowlett> N03L, greetings
[08:09] <bazhang> N03L, ubuntu support. did you have a support questiion?
[08:09] <N03L> cfhowlett: cheers for the warm welcome.
[08:09] <N03L> bazhang: yea I do.
[08:09] <bazhang> N03L, then ask it
[08:10] <N03L> Is it ideal to use the actual linux terminal to write html? Or am I better off using something like notepad etc.
[08:10] <N03L> Just wondering if the former is possible. If so, how do I go about doing that?
[08:10] <iceroot> N03L: use the editor which you can handle best
[08:11] <iceroot> N03L: some are using an editor on the cli (vim, emacs), some are using an editor with a gui
[08:11] <cfhowlett> N03L, matter of opinion.  Use what works for you.
[08:11] <N03L> iceroot: Is it possible to just use the ubuntu terminal?
[08:11] <iceroot> N03L: with a cli-based editor, yes of course
[08:12] <iceroot> !editor | N03L
[08:12] <N03L> Ok cheers guys.
[08:13] <iceroot> N03L: normally there is nothing you can only do in a GUI, on GNU/Linux there is normally also a way to do it on the CLI (and normally that is faster then using the gui) but it depends on the skill, preferences and so on
[08:15] <paul--> does anyone have experience here with snapraid?
[08:15] <cfhowlett> N03L, see web editors section @    http://whdb.com/blog/2008/the-top-50-proprietary-programs-that-drive-you-crazy-and-their-open-source-alternatives/
[08:16] <iceroot> !anyone | paul--
[08:16] <iceroot> cfhowlett: nice link, very interesting
[08:17] <paul--> http://www.flickr.com/photos/86435426@N05/8439999171/ This is my setup. I want to have the best of both worlds. The ability to virtualise machines AND the benefits of hard drive power savings and write performance.
[08:18] <paul--> I have found that vmware esxi wont let me do this, so looking for alternatives.
[08:19] <nanashiRei> Can anyone advice me on using X-Fi with ubuntu?
[08:19] <paul--> where is his !anyone
[08:19] <nanashiRei> i just won't do any of the magic as it does under windows :(
[08:20] <nanashiRei> i got lame stereo sound and cracking...
[08:20] <nanashiRei> :'(
[08:21] <N03L> I normally just use notepad ++ but I'm on ubuntu at the moment and the defaul editor (gedit) seems fine.
[08:24] <mrsudoer> I just installed kubuntu over ubuntu and want to undo it :(
[08:24] <mrsudoer> how can i get a list of packages that were installed when i installed kubuntu?
[08:24] <bazhang> !puregnome | mrsudoer
[08:24] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, kubuntu-desktop or kdxe only?
[08:25] <mrsudoer> kubuntu-desktop
[08:25] <bazhang> kdxe?
[08:26] <mrsudoer> bazhang, I get the following error when I follow that article... https://gist.github.com/0fd81b6e6a2fab4a76f9
[08:26] <iceroot> !puregnome | mrsudoer
[08:26] <iceroot> mrsudoer: there is a list of all packages which were installed and a command to remove them again
[08:26] <bazhang> mrsudoer, is this ubuntu? MINT? or what. and what version
[08:27] <mrsudoer> iceroot, I get the following error though: https://gist.github.com/0fd81b6e6a2fab4a76f9
[08:27] <mrsudoer> ubuntu 12.04
[08:27] <yellabs-r2> are there any single board / cheap mini computers that run ubuntu ( desktop ) for kiosks mode ..
[08:27] <bazhang> yellabs-r2, ask in ##hardware
[08:27] <yellabs-r2> ah
[08:27] <yellabs-r2> ok , thanks you
[08:27] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntuprecise
[08:28] <mrsudoer> cfhowlett, when I try that, I get the following error: https://gist.github.com/0fd81b6e6a2fab4a76f9
[08:29] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, pretty sure this script won't manage gits ...
[08:32] <maymann> Hi, In Ubuntu 12.10: where are openconnect (network-manager) saving its VPN profiles (I'm going to create a bootable Ubuntu image (using UNetbootin) and need to add a profile that makes the client connect automatically ?
[08:32] <emiliano_> hello guys
[08:32] <mrsudoer> ugh, i should just do a clean install of ubuntu and never install kde on top of it
[08:34] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, probably the best bet.  I'm in same situation.  Just HAD to try lubuntu on top of ubuntustudio.  US is best left untainted.  Will wait for the next point release to do a clean install.
[08:34] <doctrgiggles> connect
[08:35] <fruitFly> can you shrink a windows volume and a linux volume to free up space?
[08:36] <bazhang> !gparted | fruitFly yes
[08:36] <cfhowlett> fruitFly, of course.
[08:36] <fruitFly> Ubuntu vs mint?
[08:36] <mrsudoer> thanks for your help guys
[08:36] <bazhang> offtopic here fruitFly
[08:37] <fruitFly> bazhang: why do use use ubuntu over other distros?
[08:37] <mrsudoer> cfhowlett, when is the next point release?
[08:37] <fruitFly> Why do you guys use ubuntu over other distros?
[08:37] <bazhang> fruitFly, this is NOT the chat channel; try #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:37] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, should have been last week, but it was delayed.  no announcement yet
[08:37] <cfhowlett> !ot > fruitFly,
[08:37] <mrsudoer> will it be a LTS, cfhowlett ?
[08:38] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, exactly 12.04.2
[08:38] <mrsudoer> so..yes?
[08:38] <fruitFly> will ubuntu dual boot option give me the chance to customize my partitions?
[08:38] <bazhang> yes
[08:39] <bazhang> customize how fruitFly
[08:39] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, sorry.  yes.  12.04 is LTS so the next point release will likewise be LTS
[08:39] <fruitFly> bazhang: set a /, /boot, /home and swap size?
[08:39] <maymann> In Ubuntu 12.10: where are openconnect (network-manager) saving its VPN profiles (I'm going to create a bootable Ubuntu image (using UNetbootin) and need to add a profile that makes the client connect automatically ?
[08:39] <bazhang> fruitFly, of course Yes
[08:40] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, note that the current 12.04 release is 12.04.1
[08:43] <kalypso> hey guys any way  to change language in ubuntu with a keyboard shortcuts ? :)
[08:44] <bazhang> kalypso, using ibus? sure
[08:44] <mrsudoer> oh okay, thanks cfhowlett
[08:44] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, have fun, be safe
[08:44] <mrsudoer> i guess i'll wait it out for now then
[08:45] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, seemed to be a kernel issue which must be resolved before the point release is ... released.  Hopefully, any day now.
[08:45] <mrsudoer> looking forward to it :)
[08:46] <cfhowlett> mrsudoer, same
[08:46] <we6jbo> hi
[08:47] <we6jbo> Is there a program for Ubuntu that can graph what programs are using the most power over a duration of time?
[08:47] <theadmin> we6jbo: What do you mean, power?
[08:48] <bazhang> we6jbo, cycles, you mean?
[08:48] <we6jbo> Well I'm using a netbook and it gets on average of 4hrs of battery life and I'm wondering if theres a way to graph what programs are using most of it so I can set them to not run when the netbook isnt pluged in
[08:48] <Myrtti> powertop might help
[08:50] <we6jbo> Ok I'll try that. Thanks Myrttti
[08:55] <MoL0ToV> # alternate mappings for "page up" and "page down" to search the history
[08:55] <MoL0ToV> "\e[5~": history-search-backward
[08:55] <MoL0ToV> "\e[6~": history-search-forward
[08:55] <MoL0ToV> why to not enable by default uncommented in inputrc???
[08:55] <MoL0ToV> there are a good reason?
[08:55] <MoL0ToV> every system i must uncomment... is frustrating
[08:56] <theadmin> we6jbo: You might also want to install laptop-mode-tools to preserve power.
[08:56] <theadmin> MoL0ToV: By default, page up and page down scroll the console output.
[08:58] <theadmin> MoL0ToV: You can search history with arrow keys (up/down). Seems reasonable enough to me.
[08:58] <MoL0ToV> theadmin, is shift + page up that scrolls, its not right?
[08:58] <MoL0ToV> cp: impossibile creare il file regolare "/home/assistente/Documenti/Immagini/collegamento wireless/Istantanea - 02022013 - 13:17:05.png": File o directory non esistente
[08:59] <MoL0ToV> i have 700 permissions on this file
[08:59] <MoL0ToV> and i'm the proprietary
[08:59] <MoL0ToV> so why cp don't copy?
[08:59] <cfhowlett> !fr|MoL0ToV,
[08:59] <theadmin> MoL0ToV: Well, probably because /home/assistente/Documenti/Immagini/collegamento wireless/ doesn't exist.
[08:59] <MoL0ToV> i'm not french ;P
[09:00] <cfhowlett> MoL0ToV, apparently your computer is.  Excuse a moi.
[09:00] <theadmin> MoL0ToV: Also, before pasting any terminal output to the channel, please export LANG=en_US.UTF-8, so that we can understand it without having to guess things.
[09:00] <Myrtti> cfhowlett: italian
[09:00] <ANub> guys......skype application run with root privileges and without root privileges show little bit different interface and icons. What can be done to have the same functionalities as that of root
[09:00] <cfhowlett> Myrtti, grazie
[09:01] <cfhowlett> ANub, running skype as root?  bad idea.
[09:01] <cfhowlett> ANub, any basic user app that requires root to run ... probably should not be run
[09:01] <cfhowlett> !it|MoL0ToV,
[09:01] <SAngeli> Hi, I posted a question on ubuntu forum but it seems like nobody is capable or willing to answer it. Is anyone in channel willing to help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12484777#post12484777 I need to get my project going.
 : thats what I'm asking to run it without root to have all the functionalities
[09:02] <SAngeli> thank you for anyone who can share some answer with me
[09:02] <theadmin> ANub: There is no functionality in Skype that would need root priveleges.
[09:02] <cfhowlett> ANub, ok, I have to ask; what skype functionality are you missing as non-root
 to be specific .........sending file without root crashes the application
 I've submitted it on launchpad as well as on Skype bug report
[09:02] <cfhowlett> ANub, i'd suspect a misformed installation then.  I send files all the time as non-root with no issue.
[09:03] <theadmin> ANub: Remove your users' Skype configuration (it's stored in ~/.Skype) and try again
[09:03] <MoL0ToV> theadmin, i have write permissions on dest directory
 .... ive Precise Pangolin .... 32 bit arch
[09:03] <MoL0ToV> so i don't understand why don't work...
[09:03] <theadmin> MoL0ToV: Could you give me the command you used?
[09:04] <spliffy> Hi. Anyone got an idea why it could be that when i copy /dev/zero to a blockdevice with dd iostat shows that dd reads from the device?
 I've done all these things (removing files, removing skype, updateing to latest ver)
[09:04] <cfhowlett> ANub, theadmin's excellent suggestion; delete the user's skype config and start over.
[09:04] <cfhowlett> ANub, weird indeed.
 yeap
[09:04] <changer> Hey all
[09:04] <cfhowlett> ANub, if it's a skype bug nothing we can do here .
[09:05] <cfhowlett> changer, greetings
[09:05] <cfhowlett> ANub, sorry to hear of it.
 but with root it has no problem
[09:05] <theadmin> ANub: Did you install Skype from the Ubuntu repositories or from skype.com
[09:05] <MoL0ToV> theadmin,  http://www.pastebin.ca/2310564
 tried both
[09:06] <cfhowlett> ANub, version 4.1??
 yeap
[09:07] <changer> anyone here know if ubunto has an hdtv screen resize support ?
[09:07] <cfhowlett> ANub, ok.  well, I'd suggest you delete and purge all skype from your system and reinstall  http://www.tecmint.com/install-skype-4-1-in-ubuntu-xubuntu-linux-mint/
[09:07] <spliffy> i'm seeing a strange phenomenon. when i run 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb1' i see more reads than writes on sdb1 using iostat. What could be the reason for this?
[09:08] <changer> since i am running a laptop (which  i opened up and installed inside my tv ) so its only screen is a samsung 32"
[09:08] <spliffy> nothing else is accessing the disk
 i'll do that shortly........as soon as i finish my lunch.........:)
[09:09] <sveinse> Anyone here with dash knowledge? I'm searching for a way to test if a string ends with ".conf" in dash. Can I do that without echo+grep? I know I can in bash at least
[09:09] <cfhowlett> ANub, good luck.  really hope it works.  don't forget to purge the user configs as well.  In fact, a little apt-get purge && apt-get autoremove might be just the thing.
 i thought i could use "setcap" ........ tried that.....no luck
[09:10] <changer> guys plz help, i need to find a way to get my screen working without cutting off 10px either side
[09:12] <changer> i went from windows 8 (i hate windows 8 ) i now am running opensuse , switching to ubuntu, can i resize screen res there ?
[09:13] <changer> cuz when i tried it in opensuse , i got epic errors :-)
[09:13] <Nickinator> Should be able to, what video card were you using?
[09:13] <Oweoqi> yeah you can
[09:13] <BotaniCar> "epic errors" mean they were written in purple ? Aww <3
[09:14] <changer> im using an hd 6500 m   (its an faster rebranded 6310 i read)
[09:14] <theadmin> sveinse: You can use expr: expr $string : \\.conf > 0
[09:15] <changer> nah epic errors was more like video freeze up
[09:15] <Nickinator> That's an AMD Radon isn't it?
[09:15] <theadmin> sveinse: Err, make that: expr $string : \\.conf$ > 0
[09:15] <changer> all was perfect, only in playback of hd video the system couldnt handle it, updated drivers etc, but i recon its better to switch to ubuntu, givving  it an try
[09:16] <changer> yep its an radeon
[09:16] <Nickinator> I know there are a selection of AMD Video driver packages for Ubuntu, I'm sure they would've been available in OpenSUSE but probably not as accessible,
[09:17] <changer> well i downloaded the update package from amd site
[09:18] <changer> worked quite well , but the problem occurs when i need to shave off 10 pix from my resolution so it will be visible on my tv screen
[09:18] <Nickinator> I'd try the Ubuntu Live CD, that way you can try it out without wiping everything,
[09:18] <Nickinator> I'd also try modifying the X configuration,
[09:18] <changer> then desktop etc works fine, but playback video , and it tries to kill you lol
[09:18] <changer> hmmm good tip :) , i can try :)
[09:19] <changer> just hope this crap tv wont give me more problems lol :P
[09:19] <michael_87> ok I am frusterated tryying to use wine with a more advanced game so I'm going to ask is there any really fun offline games that I can download for linux other then emulators?
[09:19] <gnomefreak> my AMD  card works fine with our drivers
[09:19] <changer> try installing steam m8
[09:19] <Ronalds_M> michael nexuiz
[09:20] <changer> what card do you have ?
[09:20] <gnomefreak> HD4200
[09:20] <sakkemo> for upper end netbook (i3, 8 GB of RAM, 128 GB SSD) would you recommend installing full ubuntu or ubuntu-minimal and just the packages I happen to need? I plan on using i3 rather than unity
[09:20] <Oweoqi> how do I mod the steam appindicator icon?
[09:20] <theadmin> michael_87: Minecraft! :P
[09:21] <mysteriousdarren> sakkemo: what are you using it for?
[09:21] <Ronalds_M> sakkemo arch linux lol
[09:21] <changer> i have old dual core pentium D here 2.3ghz, 4gb ram , 1gb video hd 6500M and 500gig hd , all stuffed inside a samsung tv :P
[09:21] <changer> (its amazing how long some cables can get :P
[09:22] <gnomefreak> in a tv? how theh ell did you manage that
[09:22] <gnomefreak> the hell even
[09:22] <sakkemo> mysteriousdarren: school, meaning a little bit of programming, R (locally), writing stuff obviously as well as web surfing and irc.  Click: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/skype
[09:25] <changer> and start drilling holes for your mounts
[09:25] <changer> make some extra ventilation slots, and all you have outside is 3 usb cables (still working on that tho :)
[09:25] <sgo11> hi, when apt-get install <something>, it may require many packages. is that possible to exclude one particular package with some command line arguments? thanks.
 Underway....
[09:26] <hillary> which version of eclipse works well with ubuntu 12.04. Am developing android mobile/web applications. Any one to help me. The eclipse indigo in ubuntu software center does not work well
[09:26] <mysteriousdarren> sakkemo: well seems like you could use regular ubuntu, but do you enjoy flat speed like the rest of us? I run a customized version of Lubuntu 12.10 on my netbook it flies
[09:26] <changer> u can use the 220v entry  of the tv for soldering your ac adapter to it , easy and its 1 cable and hole less to see :)
[09:26] <cfhowlett> theadmin ANub, as the admin says use the repo version.  Sorry for the dated tutorial.  I used this method before the skype update made it into ubuntu
[09:26] <SAngeli> Hi, I posted a question on ubuntu forum but it seems like nobody is capable or willing to answer it. Is anyone in channel willing to help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12484777#post12484777 I need to get my project going.
[09:26] <theadmin> sgo11: You can mark that package as ignored/held: echo "packagename hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[09:27] <theadmin> sgo11: And then do the install.
[09:27] <hillary> which version of eclipse works well with ubuntu 12.04. Am developing android mobile/web applications. Any one to help me. The eclipse indigo in ubuntu software center does not work well
[09:27] <sakkemo> mysteriousdarren: yep, I guess I'll do the minimal install. Might use the opportunity to try out different software rather than the defaults as well
[09:28] <cfhowlett> hillary, 3.7.2-1 is in the repo
[09:28] <sgo11> theadmin, thanks a lot for the suggestion. basically I want to exclude flashplugin-installer while installing ubuntu-restricted-extras. ^_^ thanks.
[09:28] <hillary> cfhowlett,  that is the indigo
[09:29] <mysteriousdarren> sakkemo: well try a couple of the de and find the one you like
[09:29] <cfhowlett> hillary, there might be a more current version available from the package maintainer.  Info should be in help>about
 Did as you said and launched application from the terminal .........tried to send the file and application crashed generating "Fatal: ASSERT failure in : "Got an update for an invalid inteface. Investigate this.", file atspiadaptor.cpp, line 899
[09:32] <ANub> Aborted (core dumped)
[09:32] <ANub> "
[09:32] <Nisse> Hello
[09:32] <cfhowlett> Nisse, greetings
[09:33] <Nisse> I'm trying to get ubuntu 12.10 working in virtualbox, but the box crashes when i get to the desktop. (I have 3D enabled)
[09:33] <cfhowlett> Nisse, for starters, try disabling 3d
[09:33] <theadmin> ANub: Huh. Well, then it's a Skype bug. You should bother Microsoft about that...
[09:33] <theadmin> ANub: If they'll ever care
[09:33] <Nisse> cfhowlett: i did that, but then it lags horribly
[09:33] <cfhowlett> Nisse, install lubuntu or xubuntu ... lighter distros
[09:34] <Nisse> cfhowlett: Ok, guess the only way
[09:34] <Nisse> cfhowlett: thank you for the help
[09:34] <cfhowlett> Nisse, be safe, have fun
 and <cfhowlett> :). No words for MS. ;) ......... Anyways thanks for your help
[09:34] <cfhowlett> ANub, best of luck
[09:34] <hillary> when i insert cd to my cd drive i get a message unable to mount the media ubuntu 12.04
[09:35] <hillary> when i insert cd to my cd drive i get a message unable to mount the media ubuntu 12.04 is my os
[09:36] <Gunpowder> hey who is op here?
[09:36] <cfhowlett> !patience|hillary,
[09:36] <hillary> ubottu,Thanks for the information
[09:37] <mysteriousdarren> Gunpowder: what do you need?
[09:37] <lhavelund> Gunpowder: There are several of us, but we hide in the shadows until needed.
[09:37] <Gunpowder> mysteriousdarren my good sir i need to take off an account
[09:37] <Gunpowder> i am trying to register a new nick
[09:37] <lhavelund> Gunpowder: Try #freenode - we don't control the network, freenode does. :)
[09:37] <Gunpowder> ah woops
[09:38] <hillary> I need to restore all the settings to its original installation in ubuntu 12.04. Which commands does that?
[09:39] <mysteriousdarren> Gunpowder: check with gry at freenode if hes still on
[09:39] <Gunpowder> did
[09:39] <cfhowlett> hillary, default settings?  you could try deleting all the user .config files form /home ....
[09:39] <Gunpowder> thx
[09:40] <gnomefreak> we have config files throught the file system so i dont think the ones in /home is it
[09:40] <hillary> cfhowlett,  procedure please
[09:40] <MoL0ToV> theadmin,  http://www.pastebin.ca/2310564
[09:41] <cfhowlett> gnomefreak, and thus you have revealed the precise frontier of my ignorance ...
[09:41] <vnc786> hi everyone
[09:41] <cfhowlett> hillary, if you are speaking of user settings, go into the user /home, display hidden folders and delete everything.  Better yet, create a NEW user, log out, login and all those settings will be default.
[09:41] <cfhowlett> vnc786, greetings
[09:42] <gnomefreak> i don thtink there is an easy way if it is possible at all
[09:42] <vnc786> i got my Sata HDD 500 GB. it's head is damage because making noise and I/O is very slow so i have got new HDD 750gb. What is the best way to copy/clone complete old hdd to new hdd. i am having systemrescuecd. what i now is use dd cmd. but want to know is there any gud option which i dont know.
[09:42] <gnomefreak> hi vnc786
[09:42] <cfhowlett> !dd|vnc786,
[09:43] <gnomefreak> vnc786: save what you want on a usb stick than just transfer the files
[09:43] <sveinse> Is there any way to the the return status of the first command in a pipe sequence in dash?
[09:43] <wdp> vnc786, if your old disc is damaged I'd take a look at gddrescue. dd stops on the first error; gddrescue not.
[09:43] <hillary> cfhowlett,  sorry i meant the software update center settings
[09:43] <cfhowlett> hillary, ah, so software sources and such???
[09:44] <hillary> cfhowlett,  exactly!
[09:44] <cfhowlett> hillary, wait one, I've got the link to do it ...
[09:44] <vnc786> cfhowlett: gnomefreak: i got 490gb data on old hdd and since I/O is damn slow so was wondering how shuld i proceed
[09:44] <hillary> cfhowlett,  ok
[09:45] <vnc786> because OS takes 1/2 hour to boot
[09:45] <cfhowlett> hillary, Restore Ubuntu to default settings without reinstalling ... http://www.kingletas.com/2012/07/restore-ubuntu-to-the-default-settings-without-re-installing-it.html
[09:45] <gnomefreak> vnc786: with that much im not sure
[09:46] <flintser> vnc786: install new system to new hdd, install old hdd to the computer and you can copy what you need from there
[09:46] <hillary> cfhowlett,  Thanks let me read it
[09:46] <gnomefreak> that sounds way too easy
[09:46] <cfhowlett> vnc786, you might be better off just clean installing your system and take the failing HDD to a data recovery specialist...just sayin'
[09:47] <gnomefreak> now that i can get behide but im going to guess it will not be cheap
[09:48] <vnc786> cfhowlett: i can access my data using systemrescue cd :)
[09:48] <cfhowlett> gnomefreak, depends on what needs to be save, innit?
[09:49] <flintser> why not so what i suggested? you can also try reflect (win software) to take an imageof the old setup. then extract it on your new hdd
[09:49] <flintser> not that it will take a looooong time..
[09:49] <flintser> note*
[09:50] <kjelle> .o/ I have an upstart script stuck in "stop/killed" or "start/killed". The process ID does not exist. How do i clean this up, so i can fix my script=
[09:50] <kjelle> (google didnt help)
[09:50] <vnc786> dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sda will this be ok or i have to add more parameters..?
[09:50] <hillary> cfhowlett, This is personal. Currently am reading for certification in linux. I have started reading on ubuntu then later to redhat.I wish to be RHCE(Redhat certified Engineer) could you be knowing good source of study materials? Or you have any advice for my career path? Our Kenya government is embracing open source softwares hence positioning my self. Thanks.
[09:51] <llutz> vnc786: if and of shouldn't be equal
[09:51] <flintser> vnc786: if it is a desktop pc install both hdd:s into it and copy paste what you need. (clean install on new hdd)
[09:51] <llutz> vnc786: you should set bs=yyM  to speed it up a bit
[09:52] <cfhowlett> hillary, I'm not the one ask ... just a hobbyist/user.  but the guru's and full bearded turtle neck experts here and in #ubuntu-server can probably advise you ...
[09:52] <vnc786> llutz: yes need some parameter help what shuld i keep like bs=????
[09:52] <nb-ben> vnc786: it's okay, but it will transfer one byte block at each write instead of a bigger block like llutz said, so if you want it faster then you should indeed specify a block size using bs=NNNN
[09:53] <llutz> vnc786: bs=4M  is a value giving reasonable speed here (while dd always will be slow)
[09:53] <nb-ben> why would dd always be slow?
[09:53] <nb-ben> it's one of the fastest writing methods as far as I know
[09:54] <flintser> dd is for exact copying it should be slower than others
[09:56] <wdp> flintser, i'd be interested in "than others" what alternatives do you have? The only way to achieve more speed would be the use of cat, not sure how useful that is. And "for exact copying" is misleading - Many tools are for that. Or do you get different files out if you use cp and rsync? :)
[09:57] <wdp> vnc786, again: if you disc got errors (check dmesg and smartctl) you might rather want to use gddrescue instead of dd. Otherwise it might well happen that the copy-process will stop in the middle and you can start again.
[09:58] <hillary> cfhowlett, ok i will try ask
[09:58] <cfhowlett> hillary, very best of luck to you.
[09:58] <wdp> dd does not need to know the filesystem, hence copies _everything_ which is why dd will have to copy _more_ and which is why it is slower. by the way.
[09:59] <flintser> wdp: thats what i meant... tried to simplify
[10:00] <vnc786> wdp: whenever i start pc the bios give me error i.e there is problem with drive i used smartctl to check it also says there is error with drive but i am just googling gddrescue havent heard abt can u tell me more  how do i use it
[10:01] <cfhowlett> vnc786, if your HDD won't even boot at the bios stage, gddrescuse won't fix it ...
[10:01] <vnc786> no no it's booting  just it takes time...
[10:02] <wdp> vnc786,
[10:02] <wdp> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[10:02] <wdp> "Imaging a damaged device, filesystem or drive"
[10:03] <cfhowlett> vnc786, "http://www.kingletas.com/2012/07/restore-ubuntu-to-the-default-settings-without-re-installing-it.html"
[10:03] <cfhowlett> vnc786, scratch that.
[10:05] <vnc786> yes sure i will do little study on that and tommorow i will let u know ...thank u everyone..i was confident that i will get something new from u guys ...cheers..
[10:06] <emptyhua> JOIN #debian
[10:12] <miguelnegrrao> Hello. I have a macbook pro with two internal hardrives. I would like to install ubuntu to the second harddrive, how shall I do that ? thank you !
[10:12] <auronandace> !mac | miguelnegrrao
[10:12] <cfhowlett> miguelnegrrao, doable ..
[10:14] <keelG> miguelnegrrao: iirc there is some limitations for what you want to achieve - you should go research it some more
[10:14] <keelG> and hello ubuntu@freenode!
[10:14] <miguelnegrrao> I'm more or less familiar with the documentation for mac. I have rEFit installed, etc. I have already installed once on the primary disk via boot camp. I don't think boot camp allows you to install to the second disk though.
[10:15] <miguelnegrrao> So I would be advised to install on the primary disk ?
[10:15] <keelG> miguelnegrrao: My point, was installing an OS to the 2nd disk of a Macbook pro - as I recall it, it is not possible. I can't remember for what obscure reason, or if it was true :)
[10:16] <miguelnegrrao> keelG: And is it possible to install to an external USB disk, or I would have the same problem ?
[10:17] <cfhowlett> miguelnegrrao, there are hits that it doesn't like external HDD, but I can't see if there was a solution...
[10:17] <hillary> apart from eclipse which other IDE can work well with android to develop mobile/ web applications using ubuntu 12.04 or higher
[10:17] <cfhowlett> miguelnegrrao, then there is this ... http://www.ehow.com/how_6182617_install-second-sata-hdd-ubuntu.html
[10:19] <miguelnegrrao> Well, I was able to run the installer of a usb stick, wouldn't a normal installation also boot in the same way ?
[10:19] <cfhowlett> miguelnegrrao, on a mac?  not.
[10:20] <miguelnegrrao> (well, a bit of hacking is needed to get it to boot, the dedicated graphics card has to be switched off and the onboard card turned on)
[10:20] <cfhowlett> hillary, see "web editors"
[10:20] <cfhowlett> http://whdb.com/blog/2008/the-top-50-proprietary-programs-that-drive-you-crazy-and-their-open-source-alternatives/
[10:20] <miguelnegrrao> Ok. Thanks everyone, I will keep researching this.
[10:24] <wdp> someone here using hardware raid with ubuntu?
[10:25] <auronandace> !raid | wdp
[10:25] <nb-ben> anyone here ever tried to make a BIND plugin?
[10:25] <wdp> auronandace, useless pages.
[10:25] <nb-ben> I am just unable to find any documentation on the matter
[10:26] <wdp> auronandace, i specially asked for hardware raid, not fakeraid not software raid.
[10:26] <auronandace> wdp: sorry, i thought it might have hardware raid tips too
[10:26] <tsc> hi, my /boot partition was full and apt-get wasn't working so I deleted the oldest images an now when i do "apt-get -f install" I get the following error:http://pastebin.com/W5GakV7V , any ideas?
[10:26]  * Korny2 chuckles about people who call software raid fake raid....
[10:26] <wdp> auronandace, no, thats the only thing which i am unable to find in the ubuntu docs :)
[10:27] <wdp> Korny2, who did that? :)
[10:28] <btral> hi
[10:28] <btral> i have win7 on my C drive. i installed ubuntu 12 in last partion. but now win 7 can not load
[10:28] <btral> how can i fix it?
[10:29] <Guest65492> the question is, do you really wan to fix it
[10:30] <btral> Guest65492: ye
[10:30] <calwig> whats a good DV editing software?
[10:30] <cfhowlett> btral, windows repair.  Ask in ##windows
[10:30] <OrgMental> btral, http://askubuntu.com/questions/77439/how-to-add-windows-7-loader-to-grub
[10:30] <btral> ok
[10:30] <cfhowlett> calwig, openshot, kdenlive, and even blender
[10:31] <cfhowlett> calwig, openshot can be compared to iMovie
[10:31] <calwig> is iMovie for Windows?
[10:31] <cfhowlett> calwig, no.
[10:32] <calwig> perfecft
[10:33] <calwig> cfhowlett, thank you
[10:34] <calwig> cfhowlett, which one is most compatible with other apps-tools
[10:34] <cfhowlett> calwig, no worries.  Also, you might wish to check into #ubuntustudio and check out www.ubuntustudio.org
[10:35] <cfhowlett> calwig, my preference is openshot but then I generally produce vids for youtube, not Hollywood.  Ask in #ubuntustudio or check the forums ... lots of artists and samples have been loaded
[10:36] <calwig> sounds like a good amount of homework, perfect!
[10:36] <subhojit777> Hello, I have downloaded apache solr tar ball form apache solr site. I also downloaded a .asc file. How can I extract the tarball with the help of the .asc file?
[10:36] <arunkumar413> how to install user theme extension for gnome shell
[10:38] <PPSlim> I'm on 12.04 desktop and have set an upstart job to initiate a ssh tunnel to a machine (though the job is currently started manually) - Unless I manually stop the job myself, lightdm seems to restart automatically - Any thoughts on what "stopping" event I should use, or otherwise how I should debug?
[10:39] <makara_> hi. I'm trying to get Avidemux 2.6. I downloaded avidemux3-core-2.6.1-r8442-Linux.deb and 3 others from their site, and I see them installed in Synaptic, but how do I run the blighter? It keeps opening up 2.5. When I check installed file for the deb (avidemux3-core:i386) it says only installed packages have installed files :S
[10:49] <phoenixsampras> help
[10:49] <phoenixsampras> how to know more info about a package in the repo? like version
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: apt-cache show packagename
[10:51] <igueh> hello
[10:52] <igueh> i am new in linux so i need some help to understand
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> igueh: what do you need to know?
[10:53] <igueh> can anyone help me
[10:53] <keelG> igueh: help was already offered to you
[10:53] <flcl> hello, I installed teamviewer onto Ubuntu VPS. How to check teamviewer ID and pass from command line?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> 10:52 < ActionParsnip> igueh: what do you need to know?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> iggy19: in case you missed it....
[10:55] <phoenixsampras> flcl: i think you should ask teamviewer.com
[10:59] <flcl> what does this message mean: Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly. ?
[11:00] <phoenixsampras> flcl: that program needs a Monitor... and Vga card
[11:00] <flcl> is possible to set a virtual monitor on virtual server, somehow?..
[11:00] <flcl> ^)
[11:00] <flcl> * :)
[11:01] <phoenixsampras> flcl: what do you use as HV?
[11:01] <flcl> what's HV?
[11:01] <phoenixsampras> hardware virtualization environment?
[11:01] <flcl> XEN
[11:01] <phoenixsampras> what OS?
[11:01] <flcl> Ubuntu 12.04
[11:01] <phoenixsampras> desktop?
[11:02] <flcl> how do I check that?..
[11:02] <flcl> 3.2.0-35-generic-pae #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 18:04:39 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[11:02] <phoenixsampras> well if you want X, you need to use Ubuntu Desktop... which is lame for a server, you only need SSH to handle servers
[11:03] <flcl> oh dear... And I waited for an hour for gnome to install :)
[11:03] <phoenixsampras> apt-get install ssh
[11:03] <phoenixsampras> then ssh your server ;)
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: not:  openssh-server
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> :)
[11:04] <phoenixsampras> thanks ActionParsnip
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> !info ssh
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> oh, its a metapackage
[11:04] <phoenixsampras> yeh, works as well
[11:04] <flcl> I am in irssi from PuTTY right now...
[11:05] <ntr0py> Is the ubuntu phone os already available and if so which hw is supported yet?
[11:05] <cfhowlett> !phone|ntr0py,
[11:05] <phoenixsampras> ntr0py: heard will be ready and usable for 2015
[11:06] <flcl> I hope phone won't get unity =|
[11:06] <phoenixsampras> yeh, death to Unity
[11:07] <ntr0py> cfhowlett, yes i know that site, but is it released yet? on wikipedia it can be read "The system itself is due to be released in January 2013, available as a system image for some Android devices, with the possibility of installing it on other smartphones as well."
[11:07] <cfhowlett> ntr0py, no it has not
[11:07] <ntr0py> k
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> flcl: it will, that's part of the idea behind it
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> flcl: think about the name....
[11:08] <ichat> ntr0py:  -  have you even used it before you declaired it your arch rival?
[11:09] <ichat> whoops sorry wrong tab....   i  meant  phoenixsampras
[11:10] <phoenixsampras> ichat: im using unity... its way slow... compared to Fedora 18
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: you can't compare those, one is a shell, the other is a disribution
[11:10] <quetzacoatl> how do i remove something from my install?
[11:11] <ichat> i would call fedrora hardly  a worthy desktop...
[11:11] <ichat> i mean   ubuntu is also noticably slower than      slackware with   openbox...
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> quetzacoatl: use software centre
[11:11]  * Korny2 misses real gnome 2
[11:11] <quetzacoatl> its libav codec library
[11:11] <cfhowlett> !ot|ichat,
[11:12] <Chiko> trying to launch a program in terminal if i'm in the same path i can type ./a.out and it launches fine
[11:12] <quetzacoatl> how do i remove a library from ubuntu install
[11:12] <sakkemo> would you put swap on ssd or hdd if it will be only used for hibernating?
[11:12] <Chiko> if i come from another location and attempt to load it i get hit with "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[11:12] <cfhowlett> quetzacoatl, sudo apt-get purge packagename
[11:13] <Chiko> what is the proper way to run a program with an absolute path
[11:13] <Chiko> ?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> ichat: if you install ubuntu minimal then install openbox and slim, you will have a super light OS :)
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Chiko: you can press ALT+F2 and type the absolute path
[11:14] <ichat> cfhowlett:  -  i didnt start  the death to ubity sidestap if you please...
[11:14] <ichat>
[11:14] <ichat> but not that we are on the topic of unity...     is there a way to get a  startbutton replacement into it..
[11:14] <ichat> i mean  i do like dash (most of the time)  but when im not cartain what  exactly im looking for  i stil prefere to scrool to a  list of availible options...
[11:14] <ichat> (sorry about the  \n
[11:14] <Chiko> Alt+F2 ?
[11:15] <Chiko> ubuntu server no gui
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> ichat: gmrun does similar things to dash, just not the docs
[11:15] <Chiko> want to be able to launch an app from the terminal regardless of my current position
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> Chiko: then just type the command
[11:15] <Chiko> It's not working :)
[11:15] <quetzacoatl> tnx
[11:16] <Chiko> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> Chiko: ahhh, then add the location of the binary to your PATH variable
[11:16] <Chiko> Surely there must be another way
[11:17] <Sumesh> I have a Wubi install right now, looking to convert it into a full install. What's the ideal partition scheme? I have a Windows partition, a shared NTFS partition and 50GB unallocated space after that (for Ubuntu full install).
[11:18] <Chiko> anyone know how to launch an application from the terminal with absolute pathing or even relative pathing to a degree
[11:18] <Chiko> only seems to work when i'm in the same folder as the application
[11:18] <Korny2> what do you mean?
[11:19] <Chiko> i have a program called a.out in a folder 0.1.3
[11:19] <Korny2> put the full path in it
[11:19] <Chiko> if im in 0.1.3 i can just type ./a.out
[11:19] <Chiko> when i try the full path i get Segmentation fault (core dumped) so i must be doing something wrong
[11:20] <Chiko> i may be doing the path wrong so was wondering if someone can provide a sample of how it should look
[11:20] <ntr0py> Chiko, maybe it links to something in cd?
[11:20] <mcurran> In the past I have successfully added a background to grub2 menu.  But this time around, I wanted to change the text (make it bold/bigger and modify the colors) and I would be psyched.  I finally got my picture to be used as the background, but there's a big black box covering the whole picture besides the border,  what's the deal with that?  Is there a grub-dev channel I can go to for help that anyone might know of?
[11:20] <Chiko> 0.1.3/a.out
[11:20] <Chiko> cd?
[11:20] <Chiko> the program?
[11:20] <ntr0py> current directorty
[11:20] <Chiko> ah
[11:21] <Chiko> the program does access a file within its current directory
[11:21] <ntr0py> that _may_ be it?
[11:21] <Chiko> but if the file didn't exist it would create it
[11:22] <Chiko> and it also shows a message before reading any file so i would see that
[11:22] <ntr0py> Chiko, launch it with ldd or even strace maybe to see what is going on?
[11:23] <Chiko> hmm
[11:23] <Chiko> few /usr/lib/x64_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so files~
[11:24] <ntr0py> those propably arent problems there
[11:24] <Chiko> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=W0bkbWyk
[11:26] <Chiko> yep it was that thanks
[11:26] <Chiko> strace helped
[11:26] <ntr0py> try launching it with strace from different directory to see the last syscalls before it secfaults
[11:26] <Chiko> fails on loading a file open("blah.txt", O_RDONLY);
[11:27] <Chiko> so just need to figure out how to run the app but also tell it to use its current directory
[11:28] <ntr0py> simplest would be a shell wrapper like sh -c 'cd /to/whatever/place; a.out'
[11:28] <ntr0py> or any other wrapper eg
[11:28] <ntr0py> start-stop-daemon
[11:29] <Chiko> you sir
[11:29] <Chiko> are a king amongst men
[11:29] <Chiko> thank you that works great
[11:29] <ntr0py> glad i could help
[11:33] <flcl> how to make subdomains like stuff.example.com on Ubuntu?
[11:34] <nb-ben> flcl: that's configuration you have to do with your webserver + dns server
[11:34] <ichat1> ActionParsnip:  - the thing i liked about the start buttun was that  if there was / is somthing avail that you do not know of...   you can browse to it...
[11:34] <ichat1> for example   / start / system  / configuration  / network / some odd feature you never use a 2nd time in your life...     ..  browsing there via logic  at times works batter than  searching for the correct  cli command..     even if  you would add seach to the cli  its not automagically a  gui replacement...
[11:34] <nb-ben> flcl: you're probably using apache2 and bind or your dns might be some other software
[11:34] <nb-ben> flcl: refer to #apache
[11:35] <flcl> yes, I have apache2 running
[11:35] <flcl> so this can be done totally by configuring apache2?..
[11:35] <m0453> ya
[11:35] <flcl> I used ISPmanager UI prviously for such purposes..
[11:36] <m0453> does any one here..??
[11:37] <m0453> how to login as root in ubantu 12.0
[11:37] <ichat1> m0453:  sudo su
[11:37] <flcl> has anyone used both ISPconfig and ISPmanager? Is there much difference between them?.. I never tried ISPconfig...
[11:38] <ichat1> ispmanager no... ispconfig   i did ....  for a while
[11:38] <phoenixsampras> so i need a 500 USD video card to run Unity properly?
[11:39] <flcl> ichat1, can ISPmanager create subdomains from UI?..
[11:39] <m0453> it gives me permission denied kind of error when i am installing some application on it so what should i do..?
[11:39] <ichat1> phoenixsampras:  - nonsence,   im having unity run off smoothly of  an intel  IGP  on a   sandybridge  celeron
[11:40] <ichat1> flcl:  - ispmanager i never used before...  only the other one
[11:40] <flcl> how to write message to someone, so the recepient sees my nickname yellow? :)
[11:40] <phoenixsampras> ichat1: yeh, fedora 18 was running smothly, but i like ubuntu, just unity is glitchy, i have nvidia 350m, i7
[11:41] <ichat1> flcl:     start your sencence with the persons  ´full´  nicname
[11:41] <m0453> install crclient in ubantu ..??
[11:41] <flcl> yes, does it offer possibility to make subdomains from web-user-interface?
[11:41] <m0453> ichat1
[11:41] <flcl> ichat1 testmessage
[11:41] <flcl> flcl testmessage
[11:42] <flcl> flcl: testmessage
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: you don't have to use Unity :)
[11:43] <PenguinCSC> any of you can point me to a good resource for a step-by-step guide to server 12.04
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: my nvidia 6150LE onboard thing runs Unity just fine. I choose not to though
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> PenguinCSC: what do you want to achieve?
[11:44] <cfhowlett> PenguinCSC, perhaps you might wish to check into #ubuntu-server ...
[11:44] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: what do you use as desktop?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: gnome
[11:44] <PenguinCSC> I have a small computer technicians lab. I want to install a server to serve as a VM Machines and file sharing
[11:45] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: could you walk me through the install of gnome on ubuntu 12.10 64b ?
[11:45] <ntr0py> ActionParsnip, any personal preference on a taskbar like app?
[11:45] <PenguinCSC> cool, ActionParsnip - didn't know there's a server channel
[11:45] <ntr0py> phoenixsampras, apt-get install gnome-shell?
[11:45] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: brb in 2 hours
[11:45] <phoenixsampras> since Suspend and hibernation doesnt work... i need to shutdown :(
[11:46] <ichat1> flcl - i rememember from isp config that  tha i fond it to resource-heavy  specialy on a single   server,  also the load mamagement in a so-called-custer was far from ideal...
[11:46] <ichat1> the upside was that  it was actually quite nice to work with  once it ran...      and subdomans etc  was easy  i even managed to  hack its code to support   SNI  witch is kind of unique   but usefull for a webhosting pannel
[11:46] <Guest____> .
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: with Unity shell and compiz WM
[11:48] <plumas_c> test
[11:48] <Amin> hello
[11:48] <flcl> do you use any UI panel for managing your server now?..
[11:48] <Amin> why is it that empathy wont go online cant change status
[11:48] <Amin> ?
[11:49] <Amin> im using ubuntu 12.10 gnome shell 3.6.2
[11:49] <Amin> i have 2 online accounts settings
[11:49] <Amin> i dont know why
[11:49] <flcl> ichat1: do you use any UI panel for managing servers?..
[11:51] <ichat1> flcl  zentyal  for  al  infra networking,     but im not currently running webservers anymore      and im not sure what i would run for it at pressent...
[11:52] <Chiko> ntr0py: do you know how to launch multiple instances of screen and to return back? this is what i currently have for one of them
[11:52] <Chiko> screen -S healthchecker sh -c 'cd /root/Mono/; ./HealthChecker.exe' &
[11:52] <Chiko> screen doesn't seem to play too nicely with & and i can't start another screen
[11:52] <Chiko> or it does create a new one and trashes the old one
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Chiko: why keep the data in root's home?
[11:53] <ichat1> clcl  - im not sure if its supported  but i might try and  authentical  an  ispconfig   web-only (no email)   server against externaly ldap
[11:53] <Chiko> Security isn't that important for this project
[11:58] <ntr0py> Chiko, maybe try omitting the & and detatch from it with "ctr a d" then resume with screen -r healthchecker
[11:59] <Chiko> yeah that's how i've been doing it so far but as the number increases i want to automate it to some degree
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:59] <Chiko> my end goal is to have them launch automatically on startup
[12:00] <ichat1> flcl:  -  wow, thy is hilarious,  didnt i just tell you hacked togheter  sni support for   ispconfig...  well basically my code was buggy as hell  sutch buggy that i desided to only share the concept with the  developers -  as a  ´ he what do you think of this...   ...    now they finally implemented it ... after like ages.
[12:01] <merry> hi all
[12:04] <ntr0py> Chiko, screen -S healthcheker -X stuff $"sh -c 'cd /root/Mono/ ; ./HealthChecker.exe'\n"
[12:04] <merry> hello my fr
[12:04] <ntr0py> or such
[12:04] <haqe17> My ISP's DNS server keeps going down and its pissing me off, how can I change my ubuntu laptop to use openDNS or googleDNS?
[12:05] <ntr0py> haqe17, in gnome use network-manager to enter <IP_ADDRESS> as dns?
[12:05] <Kneferilis> hello, why would I want to use find instead of locate?
[12:05] <Chiko> mm not sure what to put for -X there is no existing session
[12:05] <Chiko> so will throw "No screen session found."
[12:07] <haqe17> ntr0py: what is the command to run it?
[12:08] <haqe17> ntr0py: i have network-manager package installed but, no network-manager binary
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> haqe17: set the interface to DHCP (address only) and you can set the IP of the name servers you want
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> haqe17: or you can run:  echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head > /dev/null
[12:10] <haqe17> ok, thnx
[12:13] <ntr0py> Chiko, try screen -d -m -D healthcheker sh -c 'cd /root/Mono/ ; ./HealthChecker.exe'
[12:13] <ntr0py> -d -m -S
[12:13] <ntr0py> no -D
[12:14] <ntr0py> Chiko, screen -d -m -S healthchecker sh -c 'cd /root/Mono/ ; ./HealthChecker.exe'
[12:15] <ntr0py> should launch it in bg, then you resume with screen -r healthchecker
[12:15] <Chiko> that appeared to work will try with all 3
[12:15] <keelG> @ ActionParsnip & haqe17 - I cannot remmond making changes to resolv.conf directly - when using NM and DNSmasq
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> keelG: the file isn't resolv.conf that I editted
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> keelG: the file I recommended is used to generate /etc/resolv.conf, so the nameserver will be added each boot
[12:16] <keelG> ActionParsnip: I see & I apologize :)
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> keelG: its cool :), every day is a school day
[12:17] <Chiko> ntr0py: king among men :P
[12:17] <Chiko> so it launches the screen with its param and then detaches (which runs in the background)
[12:17] <makara-> hi. I'm trying to get Avidemux 2.6. I downloaded avidemux3-core-2.6.1-r8442-Linux.deb and 3 others from their site, and I see them installed in Synaptic, but how do I run the blighter? It keeps opening up 2.5. When I check installed file for the deb (avidemux3-core:i386) it says only installed packages have installed files :S
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> keelG: handy technique for server installs
[12:18] <Chiko> not exactly sure what the -m does though? just enforces that a new screen session is created?
[12:18] <appamatto> Is there a way to test my .pam_environment file without logging in?
[12:18] <keelG> ActionParsnip: yea, quite handy indeed - I had no idea you could do that, I disabled DNSmasq interily (was also the easiet, for my Virtual Testlab requirements at the time).
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> makara-: I recommend you extract the files in their own folders and see what files there are. May give clues
[12:20] <ntr0py> Chiko, there is always "screen --help" or "man screen" :q
[12:20] <linuxman44> isubuntu eol?
[12:20] <MonkWitDaFunk> Hi channel. Im trying to activate nvidia proprietary drivers. Is building the nvidia kernel module a step i must take?
[12:21] <martin__1> !nvidia | MonkWitDaFunk
[12:21] <linuxman44> ubuntuis deprecated
[12:21] <MonkWitDaFunk> !nvidia
[12:21] <Malsasa> linuxman44:  Deprecated?
[12:22] <makara-> ActionParsnip: thx!!
[12:26] <linuxman44> ubuntu is outdated and deprecated
[12:27] <Chiko> ntr0py yeah i had read it but it's not entirely clear :P
[12:27] <Chiko> thanks though it worked well ^_^
[12:27] <Chiko> oO
[12:29] <yoghrt> Hello, I've bought an ultrabook which has 24GB ssd and 500GB hdd, are there any articles on how to partition this configuration to have a feature like intel's instant-on? Or is it better to leave ssd to windows 8?
[12:29] <linuxman44> instant on? viagra could help.
[12:30] <erupter> how can I allow my ubuntu to accept vnc connections without a user logged in?
[12:30] <linuxman44> with backdoor
[12:31] <yoghrt> At the age of 44 you might need viagra
[12:32] <erupter> linuxman44, what do you mean?
[12:33] <kafee786> hi all
[12:33] <kafee786> i want to know about ubuntu
[12:34] <jimaji123> Can someone help me?
[12:34] <BluesKaj> !ubuntu | kafee786
[12:34] <ooxi> Hi i have heard rumors about ubuntu switching to roling releases. Is there any cincrete Information available?
[12:34] <kafee786> regarding what
[12:34] <jimaji123> kafee, im having problems installing stuff.
[12:34] <booboo> what stuff?
[12:35] <ooxi> Jimaji123 "stuff"?
[12:35] <jimaji123> im having touble downloading games.
[12:35] <ooxi> Are you using synaptic or apt-get?
[12:35] <BluesKaj> ooxi, untrue
[12:35] <booboo> which games specifically?
[12:35] <jimaji123> Toribash
[12:35] <MonkWitDaFunk> Im having problems installing nvidia drivers and i think i need to build the nvidia.kernel module to do.the job
[12:36] <jimaji123> When i download stuff, and open the folder it says " windows archiv"
[12:36] <booboo> is toribash in synaptic?
[12:36] <jimaji123> It opens windows archiv
[12:36] <martin__1> ooxi: ooxi : http://tinyurl.com/ajfdk7n
[12:36] <booboo> is toribash a windows program?
[12:37] <jimaji123> Umm, i think so
[12:37] <jimaji123> Booboo, ill link you to it.
[12:37] <MonkWitDaFunk> You can run ubuntu as a windows.program
[12:37] <jimaji123> http://www.toribash.com/
[12:37] <booboo> does it have a .exe extension?
[12:37] <jimaji123> Yes its exe
[12:37] <erupter> lolz
[12:37] <jimaji123> But, the problem is that when it opens in windows archiv
[12:37] <booboo> you need to install wine first in the terminal
[12:37] <jimaji123> It says
[12:38] <jimaji123> How do i get wine?
[12:38] <booboo> you need to install wine first in the terminal
[12:38] <MonkWitDaFunk> Software centre
[12:38] <jimaji123> How do i install wine in the terminal
[12:38] <jimaji123> I know how to do CTRL-ALT-T
[12:38] <booboo> but that isnt a 100% solution. you can try tho
[12:38] <jimaji123> But what to type in it booboo
[12:38] <MonkWitDaFunk> Graphical desktop.is more.friendly
[12:38] <booboo> type sudo apt-get install wine
[12:39] <booboo> type "sudo apt-get install wine"
[12:39] <jimaji123> Now it says sudo password
[12:39] <jimaji123> I dont have a sudo password.
[12:39] <booboo> type your password
[12:39] <jimaji123> Password for this computer?
[12:39] <booboo> yeah
[12:39] <jimaji123> Its not letting me type at all
[12:40] <booboo> thats fine. its hidden
[12:40] <jimaji123> Oh...
[12:40] <jimaji123> So when i type it
[12:40] <jimaji123> Press enter?
[12:40] <booboo> yeah
[12:40] <jimaji123> Umm, when i press enter.
[12:40] <jimaji123> It says
[12:41] <jimaji123> booboo, it says
[12:41] <jimaji123> Reading package lists... Done
[12:41] <jimaji123> Building dependency tree
[12:41] <jimaji123> Reading state information... Done
[12:41] <jimaji123> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[12:41] <jimaji123> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[12:41] <jimaji123> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[12:41] <FloodBot1> jimaji123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:41] <jimaji123> booboo, did you see it?
[12:42] <TomyLobo2> my netcat doesnt accept "nc -lkvo nc.log <IP_ADDRESS> 12345" (listen, accept multiple connections, verbose, hex dump to nc.log, listen on port 12345 on the local interface) - it chokes on the -o nc.log part
[12:42] <linuxman44> no
[12:42] <dr_willis> we really need to get some sort of package-manager-doctor utility....
[12:42] <booboo> thats so strange... i didnt expect that... hahaha
[12:42] <jimaji123> So, whats rong with it.
[12:42] <TomyLobo2> how do i make the netcat in ubuntu do a hex dump?
[12:42] <martin__1> dr_willis: lol :)
[12:43] <jimaji123> booboo, did you see what all it said?
[12:43] <MonkWitDaFunk> Dr willis. Do i definately need to build the nvidia kernel module before using nvidia proprietary drivers?
[12:43] <booboo> yeah. sorry bro maybe some1 else can help you out.. :)
[12:43] <jimaji123> =/
[12:43] <Myrtti> jimaji123: so which version of Ubuntu are you running
[12:43] <jimaji123> Anyone can help me install wine!
[12:43] <jimaji123> Myrtti
[12:44] <jimaji123> I think 12.10
[12:44] <dr_willis> jimaji123:  sudo apt-get install wine
[12:44] <martin__1> !wine | jimaji123
[12:44] <MonkWitDaFunk> I have nvidia accelerated graphics as options to activate
[12:44] <linuxman44> ubuntu gives me the chills
[12:44] <dr_willis> put on a warm sweater.
[12:44] <jimaji123> I did that dr_willis.
[12:44] <jimaji123> Its saying
[12:45] <TomyLobo2> nm i found nc.traditional
[12:45] <jimaji123> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:45] <jimaji123>  wine : Depends: wine1.4 but it is not going to be installed
[12:45] <jimaji123> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[12:45] <jimaji123> marcjr@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install wine
[12:45] <jimaji123> Reading package lists... Done
[12:45] <jimaji123> Building dependency tree
[12:45] <jimaji123> Reading state information... Done
[12:45] <FloodBot1> jimaji123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:45] <MonkWitDaFunk> Use the graphical desktop jimaji123. go to software centre
[12:45] <IdleOne> jimaji123: Please stop flooding the channel. Use http://paste.ubuntu.com  for pasting
[12:45] <jimaji123> Ok im there.
[12:46] <jimaji123> Monkwitdafunk im in the software center.
[12:46] <Myrtti> jimaji123: please, please stop hitting the enter all the time
[12:46] <martin__1> jimaji123: apt-get clean all
[12:46] <MonkWitDaFunk> Search wine and install using your password
[12:46] <linuxman44> myrtti
[12:46] <dr_willis> done a sudo apt-get update, and sudo apt-get upgrade recently?
[12:46] <jimaji123> Witch wine.
[12:46] <martin__1> followed by sudo apt-get update
[12:46] <jimaji123> There are alot of wines.
[12:46] <linuxman44> lol
[12:46] <linuxman44> spanish one!
[12:47] <jimaji123> Okay its updating
[12:47] <dr_willis> Im fond of Plum Wine. ;P
[12:47] <jimaji123> I typed in the update
[12:47] <booboo> maybe his sources.list is trashed?????
[12:47] <jimaji123> Okay it says its done now.
[12:47] <MonkWitDaFunk> Oh lala plum wine
[12:47] <jimaji123> The update is done
[12:47] <jimaji123> In the terminal
[12:47] <jimaji123> Okay, now monkwitdafunk
[12:47] <dr_willis> done a sudo apt-get update, and sudo apt-get upgrade recently?
[12:47] <jimaji123> This is another problem im having.
[12:48] <dr_willis> update with out a upgrade - is like Peanut Butter without Jelly. ;)
[12:48] <jimaji123> Is when im trying ti install wine.
[12:48] <jimaji123> It says
[12:48] <jimaji123> And i type in my password
[12:48] <jimaji123> It gives me a error
[12:48] <jimaji123> Saying
[12:48] <jimaji123> This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.
[12:49] <Myrtti> jimaji123: how many times do we have to ask you to not use the enter so much?
[12:49] <linuxman44> choose another wine!
[12:49] <jimaji123> Umm, alright.
[12:49] <jimaji123> I have choosen another one.
[12:49] <Myrtti> linuxman44: be helpful or be quiet
[12:49] <jimaji123> It says it again =(
[12:49] <jimaji123> The error that i posted above.
[12:50] <booboo> jimajil23: is this a fresh ubuntu install?
[12:50] <jimaji123> I think its 12.10
[12:50] <jimaji123> How do i check?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: can you pastebin the output of:  apt-cache policy wine; lsb_release -a; uname -a
[12:50] <booboo> when did you install ubuntu?
[12:50] <dr_willis> !version
[12:50] <martin__1> jimaji123: lsb_release -a
[12:50] <Myrtti> jimaji123: use pastebin.
[12:51] <jimaji123> Actionparsnip i dont understand,
[12:51] <Myrtti> !pastebin | jimaji123
[12:51] <jimaji123> Whats pastebin
[12:51] <jimaji123> Hmm, you guys want me to give you a screen shot?
[12:51] <Myrtti> jimaji123: no, use paste.ubuntu.com
[12:51] <jimaji123> What is it.
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: its a way to show lots of text, rather than spam the channel
[12:52] <dr_willis> I often wonder how people manage to break apt so badly...
[12:52] <ntr0py> jimaji123, ActionParsnip maybe wine is i368 on x64? then dpkg --add-architecture i386 would help?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: one word:  PPAs    :)
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> ntr0py: possibly
[12:52] <trivquad> Hi there all I just don't get it ever since I have been using 12.10 and I go into recovery mode the dang menu dosen't work!
[12:52] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip:  they klnow how to use a ppa but not a pastebin web site? :)
[12:53] <trivquad> Am I missing somwthing?
[12:53] <jimaji123> Ntr0py were you want me to type in add architecture i386?
[12:53] <dr_willis> You shouldent need to add achitecutre for wine
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: run the command and copy the text, go to the pastebin site and paste the text there, hit paste and copy the address in your address bar. Paste it here
[12:53] <jimaji123> k
[12:53] <fusion271> Any of you guys ever work with a rack server with a drive array?
[12:54] <trivquad> Up and down keys, nothing, Tab key. nothing
[12:54] <jimaji123> Lol i dont undertand ActionParsnip.
[12:55] <texla> Need application for pdf files..I want to add text and print an existing pdf file
[12:55] <jimaji123> it opens archive manager, and then it says An error occurred while loading the archive
[12:55] <ntr0py> jimaji123, open a terminal and run " apt-cache policy wine; lsb_release -a; uname -a"
[12:55] <booboo> pdf: sudo apt-get install okular
[12:56] <ntr0py> then paste it
[12:56] <TomyLobo2> dr_willis,  the amd64 wine package runs 32 bit windows apps?
[12:56] <jimaji123> Ok ntropy i did it now what.
[12:56] <trivquad> Dang it why does the recovery menu not working?
[12:56] <ntr0py> jimaji123, paste the response
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: run the command I gave and copy the text, go to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and paste the text there. Hit the paste button and wait for the page to change. Copy the URL in the address bar and paste it here
[12:56] <jimaji123> Alright.
[12:57] <dr_willis> TomyLobo2:  ive never had to worry about the bitnness of windows apps i run with wine...
[12:57] <TomyLobo2> cool, didnt know that
[12:57] <jimaji123> Ok i hit paste ntryopy
[12:57] <jimaji123> What what to do.
[12:57] <TomyLobo2> jimaji123 is either a troll or honestly hasnt used the web a lot...
[12:57] <dr_willis> i honestly wonder how many windows apps truely are 64bit....
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: copy the new address in the browser address bar
[12:57] <trivquad> This is realy embaresing for ubuntu. I can 't spell and I am so pissed I dont care
[12:58] <jimaji123> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1608598/
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: probably few, SQL 64bit is sweeeeeet
[12:58] <TomyLobo2> dr_willis,  oh quite a few... mostly open source apps on the desktop :P
[12:58] <TomyLobo2> and some games
[12:58] <dr_willis> TomyLobo2:  i cant think of any that ive ever used that ive noticed..
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: there are spaces after lsb_release and uname.
[12:58] <dr_willis> occasinally i see a '64bit whatever binary' for  a game.. but not seen that in ages..
[12:59] <BluesKaj> TomyLobo2, lots of ppl don't know about pastebin
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: lsb_release -a; uname -a
[12:59] <jimaji123> ?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: you ran:  lsb_release-a; uname-a
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: hence command not found :)
[12:59] <texla> booboo, okular is for kde ..has to be something for unity???
[12:59] <dr_willis> !ocr
[12:59] <jimaji123> Action, ill link you what its saying now,....
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> texla: you can run okular in gnome if you want, there is no rule to say you cannot run KDE apps in Gnome
[13:00] <dr_willis> KDE apps can run in Unity
[13:00] <dr_willis> ;)
[13:00] <jimaji123> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1608606/
[13:00] <jimaji123> There you go, action
[13:00] <dr_willis> years ago there could be weirdness with doing kde in gnome and so forth.. but not seen any problems in years
[13:00] <Mrokii> Hello. This is not directly Ubuntu related, but since upgradium Chrome to V 24.x I don't hear any sounds in the browser anymore. The same happened with Chromium today. Downgrading to 22.x made all sounds working again. Did anybody else have this issue?
[13:00] <booboo> texla: yeah. but try it anyway. works for me
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: copy and paste the command, instead of trying to type it
[13:00] <keelG> But still requires/depend on KDE libs - so be weary installing them both, it will result in a lot of packages :)
[13:00] <dr_willis> Mrokii:  you mean sounds in flash games? or what sounds?
[13:00] <jimaji123> Okay
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: lsb_release -a; uname -a
[13:01] <jimaji123> Put it in the chat once more.
[13:01] <jimaji123> k
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: notice the spaces....
[13:01] <dr_willis> lsb_release                -a                 ;   uname        -a                  ;
[13:01] <dr_willis> ;)
[13:01] <ntr0py> ActionParsnip, hmm wine1.4-amd64 would pull a lot of i368 pkgs on my system
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> keelG: oh its a lot of packages, but if space is a luxury then why not :). Tonnes of people install k3b for some reason
[13:01] <TomyLobo2> dr_willis,  miranda, tortoise svn
[13:01] <texla> ActionParsnip, Aware that they can but running of flash drive limited space ....okular required lots of added programs
[13:01] <jimaji123> Dr_willis put it togeather so i can paste it.
[13:01] <TomyLobo2> firefox and thunderbird seem to be 32 bit though
[13:01] <sandstrom> Something on my machine is sending emails, using SENDMAIL, how can I find out what initiates this process?
[13:02] <ntr0py> ActionParsnip, i think he should run "dpkg --add-architecture i386 ; apt-get update ; apt-get -y -f install"
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> texla: oh definitely, but it will run is my point
[13:02] <dr_willis> jimaji123:   you may want to go spend an hr reading some bash tutorials.. if running a simple command is confuseing you
[13:02] <jimaji123> Actionparsnip here u go
[13:02] <jimaji123> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1608608/
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: yay
[13:02] <jimaji123> Why yay?
[13:02] <Mrokii> dr_willis: No, *all* sounds played in Chromium and Chrome when updating them to version 24.x
[13:02] <jimaji123> Is it work now or something?
[13:03] <phoenixsampras> so, apt-get install gnome-shell, will install gnome full desktop?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: ok your OS is 64bit, run:   sudo apt-get install wine     and pastebin the whole output please
[13:03] <keelG> ActionParsnip: True story - however it also adds to the complixity of the system maintain :)
[13:03] <timgd> How do I install sun-java on ubuntu 12.10 ?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: The session with Unity shell is a full Gnome desktop. Just has a different shell.
[13:03] <dr_willis> phoenixsampras:  It should pull in everything needed.. but it may not get all the gnome shell extras
[13:03] <dr_willis> !java | timgd
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> keelG: indeed
[13:03] <jimaji123> Actionparsnip here u gooo...
[13:03] <jimaji123> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1608612/
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> timgd: sun don't own java, its oracle java
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> timgd: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> !info wine1.4
[13:04] <jimaji123> Actionparsnip did u see the link i gave u?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: do you have the universe repo enabled?
[13:05] <jimaji123> I never heard of that.
[13:05] <ntr0py> timgd, you could try "apt-add-repository ppa:webupd8team/java" then "apt-get update" and "apt-get install oracle-jdk7-installer" if you are ok with 3rd party repos
[13:05] <TomyLobo> "Binary Emulator" - i thought wine is not an emulator? :)
[13:05] <Mrokii> dr_willis: I mean, when upgrading Chrome or Chromium to V. 24.x, each browser stopped playing any sound.
[13:05] <jimaji123> Actionparsnip i never heard of it before.
[13:05] <phoenixsampras> and what ill install the full gnome experience?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: open software centre and you can enable it there.
[13:05] <booboo> i think jimajil23's sources list is probably in need of editing...
[13:06] <jimaji123> How do i enable it actionparsnip?
[13:06] <dr_willis> Mrokii:  theres been some odd flash issues going on lately.  No idea if thats related or not
[13:06] <dr_willis> bbl
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: you can use software centre, or you can manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:07] <sandstrom> Some process on my ubuntu server is sending emails, `/var/log/mail.log` shows about 1 attempt per minute, how can I investigate?
[13:07] <jimaji123> I dont understand.
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> sandstrom: try resetarting the mail daemon, it may have got stuck
[13:07] <jimaji123> Actionparsnip i dont understand.
[13:07] <jimaji123> Im on the software center.
[13:07] <jimaji123> Now were to go?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[13:08] <ntr0py> jimaji123, launch software sources and check the universe box
[13:08] <jimaji123> I dont see a universe  box
[13:09] <ntr0py> you have software sources opened?
[13:09] <jimaji123> Yes i do.
[13:09] <jimaji123> Its opened.
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> ntr0py: all yours dude, i've never used software centre
[13:09] <jimaji123> Oh im in the software sources now
[13:10] <jimaji123> Ntr0py im in the soft ware center.
[13:10] <ntr0py> go to last point in edit menu "software packessources" or so
[13:10] <booboo> chech the "community maintained open source software"
[13:10] <booboo> chech the "community maintained open source software (universe)"
[13:10] <jimaji123> Its already checked
[13:10] <ntr0py> hmmm
[13:11] <subhojit777> Hello, how can I run a process in remote server from my local machine?
[13:11] <jimaji123> Do i click revert?
[13:11] <booboo> no let it do an update
[13:11] <_methods> subhojit777: use ssh
[13:11] <ntr0py> yes leave it checked
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> subhojit777: you can SSH over and run it
[13:11] <jimaji123> Its already checked.
[13:11] <_methods> !ssh
[13:11] <subhojit777> ActionParsnip, _methods thank you
[13:11] <_methods> np
[13:11] <jimaji123> Actionparsnip, so what now.
[13:13] <ntr0py> jimaji123, ActionParsnip : i do suspect that wine -> wine1.4 -> wine1.4-amd64 packages depends on some i368 packages which will not be installed until i368 arch is activated. i had similar issue with skyle on my system
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: close software centre and run:   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:14] <jimaji123> Ntr0py i cant install anything right now.
[13:14] <ntr0py> jimaji123, ActionParsnip : im just not sure if thats really the problem here
[13:14] <jimaji123> Its reading packages right now actionpasnip
[13:15] <jimaji123> ...
[13:15] <jimaji123> Ill paste u what happened
[13:15] <jimaji123> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1608648/
[13:15] <vmalep> #ubuntu-phone
[13:16] <flintser> jimaji123: check /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:16] <jimaji123> actionparsnip, did u see?
[13:16] <jimaji123> How?
[13:17] <flintser> paste /etc/apt/sources.list jimaji123
[13:17] <flintser> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, and dont make changes
[13:17] <flintser> yet
[13:18] <Pici> !gksudo
[13:18] <ntr0py> ActionParsnip, jimaji123 : wine1.4-amd64 depends on multiarch-support
[13:18] <flintser> Pici: sry :)
[13:18] <jimaji123> Okay Flinster its opened
[13:18] <jimaji123> the text editor opened up.
[13:18] <jimaji123> It has alot of info
[13:18] <flintser> paste it
[13:18] <jimaji123> Ok
[13:19] <jimaji123> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1608658/
[13:19] <flintser> that is all?
[13:19] <jimaji123> Yes.
[13:19] <flintser> you miss a lot of repositories
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> ntr0py: I think you add arch thing will fly
[13:19] <jimaji123> I just got it not too long ago.
[13:20] <ntr0py> ActionParsnip, jimaji123 : i _think_ "dpkg --add-architecture i386 ; apt-get update ; apt-get -y -f install" would add i368 arch and enable the installation of multiarch-support which would enable wine to install.  but thats only a guess use at own risk
[13:20] <jimaji123> Like before i came here
[13:20] <dr_willis> thats definatly NOT a default/standard sources.list file
[13:20] <jimaji123> .Well, send me link were you downloaded ubuntu from
[13:20] <flintser> 12.04 or 12.10? jimaji123
[13:20] <jimaji123> I downloaded ubuntu from www.ubuntu.com
[13:20] <lundy> day 2 on Ubuntu and I have to say <3 it, added in few keyboard shortcuts to help change between workstations <3
[13:20] <jimaji123> I got 12.10
[13:21] <dr_willis> jimaji123:  you have done somthing to your sources.list or somthing did
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_old; sudo wget -O /etc/apt/sources.list https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/quantalsources.list
[13:21] <flintser> country?
[13:21] <flintser> iäll gen you a new list
[13:21] <flintser> jimaji123: ok do that instead
[13:21] <dr_willis> my 12.10 sources.list ->   pastebinit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:21] <jimaji123> ok.
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> lots easier
[13:21] <dr_willis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1608662/
[13:21] <jimaji123> Wait, flinster do what.
[13:21] <flintser> jimaji123: do ActionParsnip 's command
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: copy that long command I just gave and run it
[13:22] <jimaji123> Ok
[13:22] <jimaji123> I did.
[13:22] <jimaji123> Now what...
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: did a file download?
[13:22] <jimaji123> I dont know.
[13:22] <dr_willis> verify your sources.list to see what it looks like now.....
[13:22] <jimaji123> But when i tried to close it it says its still in process
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade     does it upgrade more apps?
[13:22] <Yizi> having issues with networking on my server
[13:22] <Yizi> can't ping anything outside the network
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Yizi: can you ping IPs?
[13:23] <Yizi> i can ping internal IP and other internal servers
[13:23] <jimaji123> Actionparsnip
[13:23] <Yizi> but not google
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Yizi: try:  ping -c 4 <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:23] <Yizi> cant ping it
[13:23] <jimaji123> When i did the sudo apt-get update
[13:23] <jimaji123> Its updating stuff
[13:23] <flintser> jimaji open new terminal and do this
[13:23] <flintser> sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_old; sudo wget -O /etc/apt/sources.list https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/quantalsources.list && sudo apt-get update
[13:23] <TakeItEZ> Yizi: grep gateway /etc/network/interfaces
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: good, your sources.list file was garbage, you now have a decent one with stuff enabled
[13:24] <flintser> nothing, im too late :c
[13:24] <flintser> sorry again
[13:24] <linuxman44> i think ubuntu is a bit bloated
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123: run:   sudo apt-get upgrade   and get fully updated. Then try the wine install
[13:24] <Yizi>   gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:24] <jimaji123> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1608668/
[13:24] <flintser> looks good to me
[13:24] <Sp00ki> hey guys,how can I make my video card fan slower, because he is so loud, since I am use Ubuntu
[13:25] <jimaji123> Action, how to do the wine install again?
[13:25] <flintser> sudo apt-get install wine-1.4
[13:25] <flintser> correct me if im wrong
[13:25] <TakeItEZ> Yizi: and <IP_ADDRESS> is connected to other nets/WAN and has ip-forwarding enabled? (it is your router?)
[13:25] <Yizi> yeah it was working fine
[13:26] <Yizi> I have another server running a db and it functions fine too
[13:26] <jimaji123> Reading package lists... Done
[13:26] <jimaji123> Building dependency tree
[13:26] <jimaji123> Reading state information... Done
[13:26] <jimaji123> E: Unable to locate package wine-1.4
[13:26] <jimaji123> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'wine-1.4'
[13:26] <FloodBot1> jimaji123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> jimaji123:  sudo apt-get install wine
[13:26] <IdleOne> flintser: its wine1.4 no -
[13:26] <TakeItEZ> Yizi: "ip r s"
[13:26] <flintser> ActionParsnip: does that install newest?
[13:27] <Yizi> default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0  metric 100
[13:27] <Yizi> <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> flintser: the newest in the repo, yes
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> !info wine
[13:27] <flintser> IdleOne: say it to jimaji123 :) its wine1.4 not wine-1.4
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> flintser: note the source in brackets ;)
[13:28] <flintser> ahh i'm always confused with these kind of thing :s i just install them from winehq :)
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> flintser: depends on the app, some don't like 1.5
[13:29] <Sp00ki> hey guys,how can I make my video card fan slower, because he is so loud, since I am use Ubuntu
[13:29] <Yizi> server internal IP is <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Sp00ki: what video chip?
[13:29] <TakeItEZ> Yizi: sounds all correct...
[13:29] <Sp00ki> AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series
[13:29] <ntr0py> Sp00ki, if its nvidia the proprietary drivers can control fans
[13:30] <Yizi> also the server can be accessed via external IP
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Sp00ki: do you have the proprietary driver installed?
[13:30] <Yizi> i can see the pages
[13:30] <Yizi> PM me and I will send it you
[13:30] <Sp00ki> they doenst work cant install them
[13:30] <flintser> ActionParsnip: i like to use stable releases too unless there is something that works better in newest version
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Sp00ki: that'll be why then
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Sp00ki: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> flintser: I just avoid wine, everything I need is native
[13:32] <flintser> i use it for some games, nothing else
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> flintser: makes sense
[13:32] <ntr0py> flintser, even those become native :-)))
[13:32] <flintser> no steam beta for me :(
[13:32] <TakeItEZ> Yizi: "sudo iptables -vL OUTPUT"
[13:32] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[13:33] <Yizi>  pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
[13:33] <kmc_> Hi All, can anyone tell me a KDE/Qt app which will allow me to use my PC to render dlna audio from a server on my lan?
[13:33] <Yizi> here are no rules
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> flintser: it will come
[13:34] <ntr0py> kmc_ vlc
[13:34] <kmc_> ntr0py: Doesnt woprk. Could yopu be more pecific? Maybe I'm doing it wrong.
[13:35] <kmc_> specific*
[13:35] <ntr0py> kmc_ its hidden in the playlist somewhere
[13:36] <kmc_> I know what you're referring to, but it doesn't work. I start the server (my phone) it sees my mythtv setup, but VLC does not show the phone as an available server
[13:36] <kmc_> curiously, vlc doesn't show the myth server either
[13:37] <ShapeShifter499> I  run a ubuntu netbook system that I turned into my server for vnc, a wifi router, and various other stuff through a bit of googling, but I can't seem to find an answer for this question though, I would like my ubuntu netbook system to boot into a "server" mode by default, no gui, but at times I'd like to manually start unity (or any other desktop window manager) so I may start firefox to troubleshoot issues with internet
[13:37] <ShapeShifter499>  or have it so I could start vnc or push  X11 apps to another computer, any ideas on what I can do?
[13:37] <TakeItEZ> !nox | ShapeShifter499
[13:38] <ntr0py> kmc_ in the playlist under local network it should show up... hmmm but here it doesnt display it neither... maybe it needs an additional module?
[13:38] <Yizi> @TakeItEZ any other ideaS?
[13:38] <TakeItEZ> Yizi: sry no
[13:39] <Yizi> Thanks anyway
[13:39] <TakeItEZ> Yizi: you'd check "tracepath www.google.com"  where it stops. check router-settings again...
[13:39] <ntr0py> kmc_ oooh if i run "sudo vlc-wrapper" it shows up there... hmm its some kind of network permission problem
[13:40] <dr_willis> ShapeShifter499:  moveing apps from one X desktop to another.. is a trick icve seen done a few timnes in the past.. but its was never a well done thing
[13:40] <dr_willis> ShapeShifter499:  best way. have individual vnc instances for each app. you can connect to from each desktop
[13:40] <ShapeShifter499> TakeItEZ, I'm assuming I'd run "unity" or "gnome-session" to start a window manager correct?
[13:40] <TakeItEZ> ShapeShifter499: "startx"
[13:40] <ntr0py> kmc_ but vlc shouldnt be run as root for sure
[13:40] <Yizi> good point there, stops after the gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:41] <kmc_> ntr0py: well spotted, I'll keep trying ... thanks for the help so far man
[13:41] <TakeItEZ> Yizi: so examine your router-settings
[13:41] <Yizi> doing it now
[13:41] <ShapeShifter499> TakeItEZ, dr_willis I've noticed that some updates to grub, wipe out my default config, I may forget I have "text" set, any more permanent solution?
[13:42] <ShapeShifter499> dr_willis, I didn't know you could have individual vnc sessions for each app
[13:42] <dr_willis> ShapeShifter499:  if you edit /etc/default/grub it should ask if its going to chanve that file
[13:42] <dr_willis> ShapeShifter499:  just run a minimal window manager + the app...
[13:43] <dr_willis> ShapeShifter499:  you DONT have to set up vnc to share the current visible desktop.. thats a windows limitation ;)
[13:43] <Yizi> worked! ok problem was the GW
[13:43] <ShapeShifter499> dr_willis, I've successively forwarded X11 apps to my android device, old PowerBook G4 running 10.5, and another laptop with ubuntu just fine btw
[13:44] <ShapeShifter499> through ssh -x
[13:44] <dr_willis> but you asked how to move the apps back and forth.. thats a totally differnt sort of task
[13:44] <Yizi> big ups for @TakeItEZ thanks
[13:44] <TakeItEZ> Yizi: wrong vlan settings?
[13:44] <kmc_> ntr0py: I don't even see the myth server in vlc as root
[13:44] <Yizi> changed the interface settings restarted the service and boom
[13:44] <ShapeShifter499> back in forth? no I meant forwarding them via ssh -x
[13:45] <TakeItEZ> Yizi: glad you found it
[13:45] <Yizi> where u from pal?
[13:45] <TakeItEZ> DE
[13:45] <Yizi> nice one
[13:45] <linuxman44>  de_dust?
[13:45] <Yizi> UK here
[13:45] <linuxman44> UK is a dump
[13:45] <dr_willis> ShapeShifter499:  ive seen tricks where you open app on pc1. then push it to the desktop of pc2
[13:45] <Yizi> agreed
[13:45] <ntr0py> kmc_ hmm i just did a clean install on x64 quantal "sudo apt-get install vlc" and then it showed up only as root here
[13:45] <dr_willis> your use of the term push ;) is confuseing heh..
[13:45] <ShapeShifter499> ah no I never have done that
[13:46] <ShapeShifter499> dr_willis, sorry
[13:46] <ShapeShifter499> nor do I know how to
[13:46] <dr_willis> ShapeShifter499:  its a idea that people ask about every so often.. a neat idea.. but not really a doable idea
[13:47] <ShapeShifter499> sounds like you would need the same libraries on both comps, instead of just running a X11 server on the other
[13:49] <dr_willis> you are still just running the app on one pc.. you are just changeing the DISPLAY on the fly...
[13:49] <dr_willis> I did it.. years ago... just to see if it could be done. ;)
[13:50] <ShapeShifter499> cool
[13:51] <ShapeShifter499> would be only good for apps like firefox where you might want to pick up where you left off somewhere else
[13:51] <ShapeShifter499> on another pc
[13:54] <Peyam> hi
[13:54] <Peyam> I get an error in evolution
[13:54] <Peyam> It refuses to send mails
[13:54] <Peyam> it wants me to see http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=14257 pk1sm9061630lab.0 - gsmtp
[13:54] <Peyam> and this address doesn't exist
[13:56] <ShapeShifter499> TakeItEZ, dr_willis about that text-only mode, do I add it to "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="  or "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX"  or both?
[13:57] <Esokrates> smspillaz
[13:57] <Esokrates> smspillaz ping
[13:57] <TakeItEZ> ShapeShifter499: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[13:58] <ShapeShifter499> TakeItEZ, what is the difference between the two?
[13:59] <TakeItEZ> ShapeShifter499: honestly i don't know
[14:01] <TakeItEZ> ShapeShifter499: iirc both will alter the "linux ..." line in grub.cfg, but why one is called DEFAULT, the other isn't... ask the weird grub-devs
[14:01] <changer> hi asll
[14:02] <changer> *all
[14:02] <ert3go> hi changer
[14:02] <ShapeShifter499> lol
[14:02] <changer> i kinda got an update problem
[14:02] <ShapeShifter499> TakeItEZ, dr_willis ok reboot went well, thank you guys for the help
[14:02] <changer> i have no more desktop after updating my fresh 12.10 install
[14:02] <changer> i had only the option create document,create folder, change background
[14:03] <changer> after auto log in
[14:03] <changer> so i created folder, looked for firefox, and now im here
[14:03] <changer> all works , just not the desktop
[14:03] <changer> no app launcher, no " start"  menu to put it in windows style
[14:03] <changer> no panels :)
[14:04] <changer> am i alone in this ? :)
[14:04] <ska> I am missing my /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket, and some dbus related tools are borked.
[14:04] <Esokrates> changer, did you get a private message from me?
[14:05] <changer> got it m8
[14:05] <ska> Is there a fix?
[14:05] <D0minat0r> Anyone knows any good video splitter for ubuntu server?
[14:06] <changer> hmmm anyone know how i can get my "desktop"  back ?
[14:06] <ntr0py> kmc_, you might like to look at djmount pkg
[14:06] <linuxman44> buy a new one.
[14:06] <changer> lol
[14:06] <changer> no seriously, i have no normal interface left
[14:06] <ska> dpkg-reconfigure dbus seems to be helpful.
[14:07] <changer> took me 10 minutes to get to a folder, so i could open filemanager and find firefox lol
[14:07] <changer> and can not reach terminal loool :)
[14:07] <ska> changer: open a terminal and type xterm :)
[14:07] <ska> changer: can you go to virtual console? ctrl-alt-f2?
[14:08] <Dave77> which text editors do you all use? I tried vim, emacs but find them too difficult to use..
[14:08] <ntr0py> kmc_, "sudo apt-get install djmount" "mkdir ~/upnp" then you can browse in ~/upnp with any player you like
[14:08] <ntr0py> it uses fuse
[14:08] <ska> Dave77: vim is the standard one, so it makes sense to spend time to learn it. There is no perfect editor.
[14:09] <kmc_> ntr0py: word from the VLC folks is that it can't be a renderer
[14:09] <ntr0py> kmc_ "sudo apt-get install djmount" "mkdir ~/upnp" "djmount ~/upnp"
[14:10] <kmc_> ntr0py: that doesn't explain our failed upnp service discovery, so i'll keep working on it
[14:10] <ntr0py> kmc_ huh? vlc cant render upnp/dlna stuff?
[14:10] <ntr0py> i doubt that
[14:10] <kmc_> ntr0py: That's whaty I was told in #videolan
[14:11] <kmc_> there's a difference between being able to play from a source discovered using upnpo, and being a dlna renderer
[14:11] <ShapeShifter499> TakeItEZ, I rebooted this system remotely, I just walked over to it to see what it looked like, not that it bothers me too much but the main screen it shows TTY1 doesn't have a cli login instead its just blank with a blinking cursor in the upper left corner, I have to Ctrl+Alt F2 to get a cli login, know why?
[14:11] <ntr0py> kmc_ im not sure if i understand the terminology right here but "renderer" sounds to me like "player" which can discover and play
[14:11] <Dave77> is there anyway to switch off brace {} matching in vim...? it slows my armbox down.. lags bad..
[14:13] <kmc_> renderer, means i can leave it running on my PC, ans send audio to it emotely from another device
[14:13] <TakeItEZ> ShapeShifter499: no idea.
[14:13] <ntr0py> kmc_ aaah ok like a service
[14:13] <Pici> Dave77: I'd ask in #vim
[14:14] <kmc_> yeh I guess it could be a service but really, it should be something transient whioch advertises itself when it becomes available
[14:14] <ShapeShifter499> TakeItEZ, ok well, other than that everything seems fine, hostapd (for my wifi router) and other services restarted just fine
[14:18] <captainspock23> hello
[14:18] <Guest4426> desktop folders do not open for 30 seconds in new ubuntu studio... anyone else get this prob?
[14:18] <captainspock23> how do you get ubuntu for android smartphone?
[14:19] <captainspock23> is it opensource, or do you have to pay for it?
[14:19] <Pici> !phone | captainspock23
[14:19] <captainspock23> is it free?
[14:20] <Guest4426> 30 second delay opening desktop folders. anyone else get this?
[14:20] <Pici> captainspock23: afaik, there has not been any code released, see #ubuntu-phone for discussion
[14:20] <captainspock23> is there a build on sourceforge.net?
[14:21] <iceroot> captainspock23: open-source has nothing to do with pay for it or pay not for it
[14:21] <Pici> captainspock23: Did you try asking in the channel that I mentioned? They have more information than we do.
[14:21] <eddd> is there any tool to display image from bash? i mean create window with some given image from command-line
[14:21] <captainspock23> ok
[14:21] <deadmund> eddd: display
[14:21] <TakeItEZ> eddd: display foo.jpg
[14:21] <deadmund> eddd: there is a command called display (it requires an x server though)
[14:22] <jonsaint> hi all. im trying to convert a dvd using devede but it keeps crashing when i try to covert it, giving me a bug error. can anyone recommend an alternative or help getting this going?
[14:22] <Guest4426> Is there a better channel to ask why I'm getting a 30 second delay opening desktop folders?
[14:23] <Pici> eddd: cacaview, (in the caca-utils package) can do basic image viewing on the console.
[14:24] <Captain_Proton> Anyone having problem with flash play back in chrome
[14:24] <Guest4426> Is there a better channel to ask why I'm getting a 30 second delay opening desktop folders?
[14:25] <oczekp_> #stackoverflow
[14:25] <Captain_Proton> Guest4426,  launch nautilus from the term and see if there any errors
[14:25] <keelG> +1 @ Captain_Proton
[14:26] <kmc_> anyone know a dlna renderer for ubuntu, preferably KDE/Qt
[14:27] <eddd> thx ALL!
[14:27] <mysteriousdarren> Guest4426: in vanilla ubuntu?
[14:28] <philinux> doing a clean install but have 4 users on separate home partition. Any problems I might encounter?
[14:29] <ntr0py> argh libupnp segfaults
[14:29] <mysteriousdarren> philinux: just make sure your permissions are correct, you should be fine
[14:30] <philinux> mysteriousdarren: do i just create the original admin user during install
[14:30] <Captain_Proton> kmc_, plex media server or ushare
[14:30] <philinux> mysteriousdarren: then the others after installation
[14:30] <mysteriousdarren> philinux: are you creating 4 seperate guests?
[14:31] <ntr0py> kmc_ weird now vlc 2.0.5 works browsing and playing on x64 quantal here
[14:31] <ntr0py> w/o root
[14:31] <philinux> mysteriousdarren: 1 admin user 3 kids
[14:31] <Beginner> Hi, I would like to know how I can install a driver (that I have to make) on Ubuntu RT.
[14:31] <tongcx> hi, i'm new to irssi, can anyone see my post?
[14:31] <martin__1> tongcx: loud and clear :)
[14:31] <Beginner> Hi, I would like to know how I can install a driver (that I have to make) on Ubuntu RT.
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> Beginner: what is 'Ubuntu RT'?
[14:32] <Beginner> Ubuntu Real Time
[14:32] <mysteriousdarren> philinux: I would create an admin user, and then later create seperate home directories. Plus make sure you change permissions for the rest as well
[14:32] <tongcx> what does /q query means?
[14:33] <philinux> mysteriousdarren: the users directories will not be formatted as home on sep partition
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Beginner: you will need the kernel headers, then compile the driver
[14:33] <Beginner> Hi, I would like to know how I can install a driver (that I have to make) on Ubuntu Real Time.
[14:33] <hillary> hi, help me on how to install aptana studio in ubuntu 12.04
[14:33] <Beginner> So I get an .ko?
[14:34] <ntr0py> Anyone here using SDR with RTL or FunCubeDongle?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> hillary: http://www.samclarke.com/2012/04/how-to-install-aptana-studio-3-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin/
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> Beginner: more than likely, yes
[14:34] <dr_willis> Beginner:  you would compile the module for your kernel
[14:35] <Beginner> An with the .ko I have to make insmod mydriver.ko ?
[14:35] <dr_willis> Beginner:  sudo modprobe modulename
[14:36] <TakeItEZ> dr_willis: therefor he had to move the .ko into the /lib/modules/* and run depmod -a before
[14:36] <ntr0py> Beginner, but remember you have to redo this on every kernel update or automate it with dkms somehow
[14:36] <dr_willis> TakeItEZ:  normally one dosent just move modules around or copy/download them from places.. ;) so im not sure what hes doing.. but i bet its going to be wrong
[14:37] <mysteriousdarren> philinux: why separate partitions? the permissions can be changed
[14:38] <changer> hi
[14:38] <changer> im back :)
[14:38] <tongcx> hi everyone, how to use /query to send private message?
[14:38] <ntr0py> like you did
[14:38] <changer> after purging i kinda completely locked up, and now i have all again :)
[14:39] <TakeItEZ> tongcx: /query somenick blahbla but:
[14:39] <TakeItEZ> !pm | tongcx
[14:39] <TakeItEZ> tongcx: PM ~ /query
[14:40] <philinux> mysteriousdarren: only 1 partition sda3 for all users - not being formatted sda1 root
[14:41] <mysteriousdarren> philinux: ok that works
[14:43] <Beginner> Do anyone know a link where to read about coding, installing and calling a driver from an application in Ubuntu?
[14:44] <mysteriousdarren> Beginner: what specifically are you looking for?
[14:45] <Beginner> I have to learn how coding, installing and calling a driver from an application in Ubuntu (I don´t know yet the device).
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> Beginner: read the 'install' or 'readme' files in the extracted archive
[14:46] <hillary> hi, help me on how to install aptana studio in ubuntu 12.04
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> hillary: I gave you a link
[14:47] <huttan> Anyone here who are familiar with configuring ldap server/clients? I have some problem with shared sudo authentication
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> hillary: why ask for help, when you won't use the links provided?
[14:49] <dr_willis> Beginner:  i think you need to start with a smaller goal.. like learning a programing language
[14:49] <huttan> Is there a separate help channel for ubuntu server? Or this one covers it ?
[14:49] <ntr0py> Anyone here knows where all those scary chromium-browse appamor verbosity in dmesg would originate from?
[14:50] <dr_willis> huttan:  theres #ubuntu-server
[14:50] <huttan> dr_willis: thanks
[14:51] <ntr0py> maybe the definition for chromium-brower in appamor is messed up somehow? i dont want to disable it completely since its a browser
[14:51] <dr_willis> ntr0py:  ive not heasrd of anyone else with the issues.. but theres been some flash/browser chaos over the last few days
[14:51] <MadEchidna> okay, so I'm trying to install ie7 with winetricks and I keep getting and error saying I can't install it on a 64 bit systerm
[14:52] <MadEchidna> tried a couple different guides on the wine arch but no joy
[14:52] <hillary> ActionParsnip,  sorry i did not see am really for that
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> hillary: no worries :)
[14:54] <ntr0py> dr_willis, maybe its because im running it from tryout/ramdisk but that seccomp verbosity is kinda annoying
[14:55] <dr_willis> ntr0py:  not seeing any messages here when im running it..
[14:56] <ntr0py> ok
[14:56] <kmc__> anyone know a dlna renderer for ubuntu, preferably KDE/Qt?
[14:57] <ntr0py> dr_willis, aah ok its because of the old kernel of the iso im running quantal from
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> kmc__: http://askubuntu.com/questions/88754/upnp-dlna-client-player-recommendations
[14:58] <dr_willis> kmc__:  what do you mean by a dlna Renderer?r
[14:58] <Noriandir> hi. I'm having problem sharing my desktop through a vnc server
[14:58] <dr_willis> kmc__:  theres numerous video players that can play from DLNA/UPNP servers
[14:59] <moondoggy> Hi there.  Can someone recommend a c++ IDE for Ubuntu?  I'm *really* hoping to use vim keystrokes.
[14:59] <kmc__> dr_willis: know any names? nobody else does....
[14:59] <dr_willis> kmc__:  names of what?
[14:59] <MadEchidna> no WINE buffs around eh
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> kmc__: vlc 2.0 can do it
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> MadEchidna: tried in #winehq
[14:59] <dr_willis> most video players can these days....
[14:59] <dr_willis> !info djmount
[14:59] <kmc__> please note I do not want a player/client, I want a renderer
[14:59] <dr_willis> kmc__:  and i have NO idea whatyou mean by a renderer...
[14:59] <dr_willis> if youy mean a server..  theres like 4 in the repos
[15:00] <dr_willis>  apt-cache search dlna server
[15:00] <dr_willis> !infi minidlna
[15:00] <dr_willis> !info minidlna
[15:00] <_methods> kmc__: are you talking about something to do transcoding on the back end
[15:00] <kmc__> ActionParsnip: #videolan tell me it cannot. on top of that, nobody knows how to even get the upnp service discovery to work, so it cant even be a client
[15:00] <kmc__> let me explain....
[15:01] <dr_willis> kmc__:  use djmount and any video player can access the dlna servers on the network..
[15:01] <dr_willis> just loaded vlc here.. it sees my dlna server downstairs..
[15:01] <_methods> kmc__: if you're looking for a backend transcoder i'd try plex or serviio
[15:02] <ntr0py> kmc__, what exactly you want do accomplish?
[15:02] <kmc__> i pick up my phone, which is a upnp server. it has media on it. likewise, so does my myth server. The phone can see the myth server as a source of music, or play music from the phone itself. Then, you can choose a renderer....this is the device (hopefully my ubuintu nachine) that will actually recieve that music and play it.
[15:02] <hillary> ActionParsnip,  kindly resend it again i have missed and the earlier link is invisible.
[15:03] <ryankask> where are keyboard layout options stored?
[15:03] <Niladem> hi
[15:03] <everestt> Wanted to try out Musique 1.2.1, got this message: "./musique: error while loading shared libraries: libphonon.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" ...what's happening? and how do I solve this?
[15:03] <dr_willis> kmc__:  xbmc can  be a target for that i belive.. i saw that setting just the other day in the xbmc options
[15:04] <kmc__> so... android... dlna control... chosse source (mythtv server, phone, any other dlna server on the lan)...choose music to play...choose renderer...sound comes out of renderer
[15:04] <phet> hi! any recommended program for basic video edition?
[15:04] <phet> like making the video much smaller in size, or making some parts of it to run faster
[15:04] <dr_willis> you need a client that can be controlled by other upnp devices..
[15:05] <kmc__> dr_willis: I don't need all the other features though, just the renderer...don't want to be always running xbmc and myth on one machine,,,,
[15:05] <dr_willis> phet:  numerous tools in  the repos for that.
[15:05] <phet> dr_willis: can you name a few? or how can I search them?
[15:06] <dr_willis> kmc__:  you have to have somthing running for it to see what to render to..   so its up to you i guess..   use an app like the ubuntu-controler android app to start xbmc when you need to render to it perhaps.
[15:06] <dr_willis> phet:  ffmpeg. mencoder,  and the dozens of front ends to them.  then you have the nonlinear video editor tools
[15:06] <dr_willis> :~$ apt-cache search video editor
[15:06] <Niladem> i love windows
[15:07] <kmc__> dr_willis: that defeats the plug-n-play purpse of upnp. This needs to work for a random dude who walks into my lan with an iphone and no knowledge of my system or anything technical
[15:07] <dr_willis> kmc__:  so you want him to be able to walk in.. and start playing porn on your pc while you or the kids are doing word processing?
[15:07] <dr_willis> with no control?
[15:07] <phet> dr_willis: whats the difference between linear and non linear?
[15:07] <dr_willis> phet:  no idea really. ;)
[15:08] <kmc__> dr_willis: yes.
[15:09] <Niladem> Sorry for the french, Il y un Francophone qui pourrait m'aider pour un problème de LDAP svp :)
[15:10] <Yizi> need help adding A record to DNS on UBUNTU server
[15:10] <huttan> Yizi: you running a bind server ?
[15:11] <Yizi> yes
[15:11] <Yizi> everything is setup but i can't see any A records
[15:11] <huttan> Yizi: they are stored in either /etc/bind or /var/lib/bind
[15:11] <moes> It was suggested in the channel that I use okular to type on a pdf file and then print it...I cannot type anything in the blanks...What am I doing wrong??
[15:11] <dr_willis> kmc__:  i was just able to use allshare on my android phone and have it play to xbmc on my pc..
[15:11] <huttan> Yizi: is the zone configuration
[15:11] <Yizi> I've modified the zone and still no luck
[15:12] <huttan> Yizi: did u reload rndc or restart bind?
[15:12] <Yizi> yes
[15:12] <huttan> Yizi: ok u probably modified wrong, can u please pastebin the file u modified?
[15:12] <kmc__> dr_willis: that's exactly the aim of the game... only.... I don't want all th other media centre features, since I'm already running myth
[15:13] <Yizi> I will PM u the settings
[15:13] <kmc__> So I'm trying to find something which just acts as a dlna renderer, that's all
[15:16] <ntr0py> kmc__, i found sth old and gnomish http://gmrender.nongnu.org/
[15:17] <ntr0py> btw which dev pkg would contain glib.h?
[15:19] <jpw> ntr0py: a`apt-file glib.h
[15:19] <TakeItEZ> !find glib.h
[15:20] <ntr0py> cool stuff
[15:20] <TakeItEZ> ntr0py: free choice
[15:20] <TakeItEZ> btw "apt-file search glib.h"
[15:20] <jpw> root huh?
[15:21] <jpw> I thought that username was banned network wide.
[15:22] <dr_willis> Nope. ;)
[15:22] <dr_willis> otherwise there would be no Puppylinux users  on freenode. ;)
[15:22] <therianthrope> Anyone know where I can report abuse from a user connecting via a try.cloud.ubuntu.com/ account?
[15:22] <jpw> heh good point
[15:23] <bazhang> therianthrope, #freenode
[15:23] <bazhang> !rootirc | jpw
[15:23] <therianthrope> No. This user connected to an IRC network I am staff on and abused on that network. I want get details on who was operating the Ubuntu Cloud account at that time.
[15:24] <bazhang> therianthrope, that has nothing to do with this channel, or ubuntu support
[15:24] <Pici> therianthrope: You could try #canonical-sysadmin
[15:24] <Noriandir> how do I open port 5900 for use in vnc?
[15:25] <dr_willis> Is Canonical keylogging my instance, or monitoring my traffic?
[15:25] <dr_willis> answer:  Nope
[15:25] <dr_willis> https://try.cloud.ubuntu.com/faq/
[15:25] <dr_willis> Where I can I find real-time support for Ubuntu in the Cloud?
[15:25] <dr_willis> You can join us in IRC on irc.freenode.net, in the #ubuntu-cloud channel
[15:25] <compdoc> Noriandir, whats closing the port?
[15:26] <jpw> therianthrope: What was it connecting too? If you read the server MOTD you'll notice that freenode runs a port scanner to find open proxies.
[15:26] <Noriandir> not sure. i've added it to the router port forwarding, and to iptables...
[15:26] <Pici> jpw: they're not talking about freenode
[15:27] <dr_willis> Hmm.. so you can lease a server on the cloud.. ;)  I really dont use such things.. guess its similer to the amazon ec2 stuff?
[15:27] <jpw> Pici: clearly im not with it today im off
[15:27] <Noriandir> compdoc, not sure. i've added it to the router port forwarding, and to iptables...
[15:28] <g0bl1n> SoundConverter still not working for FLV's, right ?
[15:28] <compdoc> Noriandir, which vnc server do you use? vino? Port 5900 is for desktop sharing, meaning someone has to be logged onto the console
[15:28] <Noriandir> compdoc, i've tried vino and x11vncserver
[15:29] <compdoc> well, ubuntu has no firewall out of the box
[15:29] <compdoc> does it work locally?
[15:29] <ntr0py> kmc__, http://gmrender.nongnu.org/ works here as renderer i compiled it "./gmediarenderer" is uses gstreamer to render/play and can be controlled with "./gupnp-av-cp" or android controlpoint i guess to play songs from my avm fritzbox upnp server. but the renderer is cmdline only it seems
[15:29] <Salyangoz> Hello can i get newbie help here?
[15:30] <compdoc> you want help to be a newbie?
[15:30] <Noriandir> compdoc, yes. with both vino and x11vncserver. but not with other pc in the network
[15:30] <ntr0py> kmc__, neat its only 76 kb
[15:31] <compdoc> Noriandir, i dont understand what you mean. You cannot connect to the computer from another pc on the same lan? that must mean its not working
[15:32] <Salyangoz> I was wondering if I could access my ntfs partition on a backup hdd if I deleted another partiton (i didnt know existed) flagged as boot
[15:32] <Salyangoz> I believe the boot flagged 200mb partition is preventing me from accessing the data of said backup partiton
[15:33] <Salyangoz> I cant access the drive either from windows or my usb ubuntu os
[15:34] <Salyangoz> I believe the hdd was formatted via osX but i dont have any mac os`s around
[15:34] <Zirconi> MBR or GPT？
[15:34] <Salyangoz> Zirconi I think its gpt
[15:35] <Salyangoz> Is there a way to check to be sure?
[15:36] <jhutchins_wk> Salyangoz: The boot flag only affects how certain DOS systems see the partition.  Deleting a partition does not affect access to other partitions on the drive.
[15:36] <Zirconi> maybe you should use UEFI to boot this HDD, I guess``
[15:37] <g0bl1n> SoundConverter time to finish starts incrementing till no stop... wow
[15:37] <passion> anyone know a easy way I can get ubuntu running on a mac w/ bootcamp & windows on it
[15:37] <dr_willis> passion:  in a vm perhaps
[15:38] <passion> yeah thats what I was thinking
[15:38] <karpuragauram> Hello everyone. I have lucid and I did a force fsck on reboot.  Now for some reason it is performing disc check every time it starts.  How do I disable that
[15:38] <dr_willis> hmm..
[15:38] <dr_willis> !fsck
[15:38] <pcmu2_> Hello, I was hoping somebody could help me. I searched on google but I can't find the awnser myself. When I open a .sh with a dubble click it just opens the terminal. I don't get the "Run in terminal Display Cancel Run" anymore. The file is marked as "Allow executing..". Is there something I can reset to get the default behaviour?
[15:39] <Salyangoz> Sorry disconnected
[15:39] <dr_willis> karpuragauram: make sure theres no  /forcefsck file perhaps?
[15:39] <passion> too bad because most of my memory is already ate up …even though linux is lighter on resources I am sure w/ parallels installed the memory will be pretty much spent
[15:40] <karpuragauram> Yes I did do forcefsck. Should I check in the home/ for it
[15:40] <jhutchins_wk> karpuragauram: ext4?
[15:41] <karpuragauram> Nope 3
[15:42] <TomyLobo2> sooo, this ubuntu phone, is it on the market yet?
[15:42] <Pici> TomyLobo2: #ubuntu-phone
[15:43] <passion> ubuntu coming out with all this stuff even running on android.. i can't believe they haven't developed a way to install on macs that isn't too technical like they did for windows
[15:43] <JuJuBee> I  have a couple of users that cannot logout.  Nothing happens when they click logout ( they are using kde)
[15:44] <pcmu2_> Hello, I was hoping somebody could help me. I searched on google but I can't find the awnser myself. When I open a .sh with a dubble click it just opens the terminal. I don't get the "Run in terminal Display Cancel Run" anymore. The file is marked as "Allow executing..". Is there something I can reset to get the default behaviour?
[15:44] <ntr0py> kmc__, here is the binary i compiled if you want to try (it relies on gstreamer to work) use "cat gmediarender.gz.base64 | openssl base64 -d | gzip -d > gmediarender" :     http://paste.ubuntu.com/1609449/
[15:46] <entreri> hey guys, there is a window that can't be resized and it goes beyong the edge of my screen, there are options I need to change below, how can I rezise ubuntu to make it smaller ?
[15:46] <entreri> it is a recurrent problem
[15:46] <jhutchins_wk> pcmu2_: Does the file begin with #!\bin\sh?
[15:46] <TomyLobo2> "ubuntu is the leading linux on arm"? uhhh, only if you discount android
[15:47] <jhutchins_wk> pcmu2_: Linux doesn't care what the file extension is.
[15:47] <pcmu2> jhutchins_wk: yes it does
[15:47] <TomyLobo2> jhutchins_wk, #!/bin/sh
[15:47] <TomyLobo2> this isnt windows :)
[15:47] <Vivekananda> Hey everyone
[15:47] <jhutchins_wk> TomyLobo2: You are correct.
[15:47] <Vivekananda> so Karpuragauram is also my nick
[15:48] <pcmu2> it just opens a new terminal whenever I double click
[15:48] <Vivekananda> so I just wanted to ask , where should I look for the forcefsck fiel
[15:48] <TakeItEZ> Vivekananda: ls -l /forcefsck
[15:48] <pcmu2> It doesn't seem to want to run the script
[15:48] <ntr0py> entreri, you can move it with [alt] mouseclick anywhere in window to reach the edges
[15:48] <Vivekananda> file on lucid?? It is like a hidden . file under home ?
[15:49] <entreri> ntr0py: nice, that solves my problem, thanks !
[15:49] <Vivekananda> TakeItEZ: Should I do sudo rm /forcefsck to stop the reboot checks or do I have to edit the /forcefsck file ?
[15:50] <TakeItEZ> Vivekananda: does it even exist? if it exists, remove it
[15:50] <Vivekananda> it is an emty file too
[15:50] <TakeItEZ> Vivekananda: sure
[15:50] <TakeItEZ> Vivekananda: it should have been removed after fsck was done.
[15:51] <Vivekananda> TakeItEZ: I see a file named forcefsck in the root / directory now
[15:51] <TakeItEZ> Vivekananda: sudo rm /forcefsck
[15:53] <Vegeta85xyz> !list
[15:53] <devsys_> dumb bot.
[15:54] <SAngeli> how to know what repository to add for using ntfs-3g under "Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n \l" ?
[15:54] <TomyLobo2> how evil is a package that adds a file under /etc/apt/sources.list.d?
[15:55] <TakeItEZ> TomyLobo2: that has nothing to do with being evil. if you grab stuff from outside the repos, it tries to get updates via apt
[15:56] <TomyLobo2> devsys_, the bot was very likely assessing that vegeta guy's intentions correctly
[15:56] <TakeItEZ> by adding the repo
[15:56] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  ntfs-3g is installed by default
[15:56] <dr_willis> !info ntfs-3g
[15:56] <TomyLobo2> TakeItEZ,  I'm thinking about making a package that adds a repository (and nothing else, pretty much)
[15:57] <SAngeli> dr_willis, but when I try to seach for it I do not find it: dpkg --get-selections | grep ntsf-3g
[15:57] <SAngeli>  I do not get anything in return
[15:57] <dr_willis> TomyLobo2:  the google chrome package does that i recall..
[15:57] <TomyLobo2> so does steam
[15:57] <TakeItEZ> TomyLobo2: add-apt-repository exists
[15:57] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  no idea on that.. It should be installed allready
[15:57] <SAngeli> ok. I will look into this
[15:58] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[15:58] <dr_willis> and see. ;)
[15:58] <TomyLobo2> TakeItEZ, that adds to sources.list, no?
[15:58] <dr_willis> TomyLobo2:  no it does not
[15:59] <dr_willis>  TomyLobo2  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/STUFF
[15:59] <TomyLobo2> but the manpage says it does
[15:59] <TakeItEZ> TomyLobo2: either sources.list or sources.list.d   according to man-page
[15:59] <dr_willis> these days you rarely see anything touching the actual sources.list
[15:59] <TomyLobo2> TakeItEZ, so it randomly picks? :)
[15:59] <dr_willis> except in badly done blogs. ;) and guides that are written by old timers.
[16:00] <Vivekananda> I have asked this before but just t confirm. I have lucid and gnome in it was easier on my system. Now lucid is complaining about partial or full upgrade and I would like to go the next lTS. But I heard that precise is very resource heavy. Also I am afraid of breaking programs that I installed manually ( non repo) . I need advice on both these
[16:00] <dr_willis> ppa entries are in sources.list.d
[16:00] <TakeItEZ> TomyLobo2: nope, ppas are created in sources.list.d, all other patterns in sources.list (as i read it)
[16:00] <TomyLobo2> yep. my repo is not a ppa
[16:00] <TomyLobo2> ergo it goes to sources.list
[16:01] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  Lubuntu is a light desktop good for lower end pcs./
[16:01] <TakeItEZ> TomyLobo2: true, so forget about add-apt-repo, its crap
[16:01] <ntr0py> kmc__, there is also rygel for gnome in the repos works even nicer
[16:01] <TomyLobo2> so, .deb that adds it :P
[16:01] <SAngeli> dr_willis, I see what you mean. I only had to type sudo mkfs.ntfs /dev/sda1
[16:02] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  i dont think mkfs.ntfs is part of the ntfs-3g packag3e. ;)
[16:02] <testk> Bot2help: i dont think mkfs.ntfs is part of the ntfs-3g packag3e. ;)
[16:02] <dr_willis> may be part of the ntfsutils package
[16:02] <Bot2Help>  i/NN dont/NN think/VBP mkfs/NNS ntfs/NNS is/VBZ part/VBG of/IN the/DT ntfs/NNS 3g/CD packag3e/NN / ;/: /  (0)
[16:02] <ntr0py> kmc__, actually "rygel-playbin"
[16:02] <TakeItEZ> TomyLobo2: or just a "sudo wget -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/myrepo.list http://blabla.foo && apt-get update"
[16:02] <felp> Guys is there anyway to take drivers from backtrack to ubuntu?
[16:02] <testk> Sry for my test
[16:03] <dr_willis> felp:  drivers for what?
[16:03] <SAngeli> dr_willis, well. What to do than? I need to format the hd with the NTFS filesystem and all I know is that I have to use ntfs-3g
[16:03] <felp> Like i have 2 devices that work in back track that dont ubuntu 2 network iterfaces
[16:03] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  Err.. No.. You dont have to use ntfs-3g to FORMAT..
[16:03] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  your command will format it to ntfs just fine.
[16:03] <TakeItEZ> !find /sbin/mkfs.ntfs
[16:04] <dr_willis> for read/write access to a ntfs-filesystem - ntfs-3g is used..
[16:04] <felp> 1 wifi 1 usb eth0
[16:04] <dr_willis> ntfs-3g is a specific command/tool to mount ntfs filesystems
[16:04] <SAngeli> dr_willis, but, will the command be using the ntfs-3g or what will it be using? This to know. I already know this is not so Ok to install NTFS under Linux
[16:05] <dr_willis> ntfs-3g is a package name and a specific command.. You are worrying too much
[16:05] <felp> Any idea dr willis?
[16:05] <testk> Bot2Help: Guys is there anyway to take drivers from backtrack to ubuntu?
[16:05] <Bot2Help>  guys/NNS is/VBZ there/EX anyway/RB to/TO take/VB drivers/NNS from/IN backtrack/NN to/TO ubuntu/VB  (1)
[16:05] <dr_willis> the ntfs-3g package adds support for ntfs under linux. ;)
[16:05] <D0minat0r> someone good at ffmpeg?
[16:05] <moes> Trying to remove okular "sudo apt-get remove --purge ~/path/to/okular"...getting E:couldn't find package
[16:05] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  so mkfs.ntfs will format it to ntfs just fine.
[16:05] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  you then MOUNT it with the ntfs-3g command
[16:05] <jrib> moes: apt-get expects a package name, not a path
[16:05] <TakeItEZ> moes: apt-get wants packagenames not pathes
[16:06] <bazhang> Bot2Help, hi
[16:06] <testk> ?
[16:06] <iceroot> how to see the licence of a package with apt-get?
[16:06] <testk> Bazhang I turn off bot
[16:06] <dr_willis> felp:  given the lack ot details.. not really. see what modules they are using and see what ones are in ubuntu.. the 2  os's should  be very close in that area
[16:06] <dr_willis> !info ntfsprogs
[16:06] <dr_willis> Hmm.. they have moved ntfsprogs to ntfs-3g ;)
[16:07] <SAngeli> dr_willis, and how about the mount line, I have to add into fstab? Currently I have "/dev/md0	/mnt/array_0  	ext4	relatime,acl,errors=remount-ro 0 1" what sould it be? Perhaps like this? "/dev/md0	/mnt/array_0  	ntfs-3g	relatime,acl,errors=remount-ro 0 1"
[16:07] <felp> Os is bt5r3 and lucid
[16:07] <moes> jrib Thanks its removing now !!!
[16:07] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  md0? You are using a array with ntfs? why
[16:07] <SAngeli> dr_willis, for RAID-1 using mdadm software-raid
[16:08] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  never used that stuff. so no idea.  You are planing on letting windows also see this raid eh?
[16:09] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: When I upgrad to precise through the net, will I get a choice of which manager I choose to download ?? Will it not download the default ( gnome I guess) ??  Also will Lubuntu have the same functionality as gnome. Are there things I cannot do on Lubuntu that I can on gnome eg run compiz ??
[16:09] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  it will update to ubuntu  unless you also have the lubuntu packages installed as well.. it updates whatever you got installed.
[16:09] <dr_willis> one of the reasons lubuntu is lighter.. is its not using compiz...
[16:10] <SAngeli> dr_willis, I mainly use this array under windows and access to the shares via samba. So far all is perfectly running under ext4 filesystem but I have few issues for NTFS needs, like custom folder icons, desktop.ini file and so on. So, I decided to change filesystem
[16:10] <dr_willis> thats nothing to do with the desktop. ;)
[16:10] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  good luck. ;) you are in an area ive never gone.
[16:10] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  so you are  going to use it as ntfs on a linux server... and share it to a windows box via samba?
[16:11] <danman1453> does anybody know why in win7, i have to disable ipp to print to a shared ubuntu printer?
[16:11] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: So if I install Lubuntu now in lucid then it will automatically get me gnome + lubuntu when I upgrade right ? Also I meant "desktop manager" when I said desktop. :)
[16:11] <aZuZu_> hi to all
[16:11] <SAngeli> dr_willis, Thanks. Yes. Is this wrong? I need to use this server as NAS and webserver. Can you please only advise me for the mount point line I have to add on fstab?
[16:11] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  yes. but it will be easier to just install lubuntu-desktop later
[16:11] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  it seems weird to convert it to ntfs just to share.. samba wont care...
[16:11] <aZuZu_> need help with arm kernel compile ...
[16:12] <dr_willis> in fact samba may have issues with ntfs being shared.
[16:12] <aZuZu_> WARNING: vmlinux.o(.text+0x14500): Section mismatch in reference from the function map_page_strongly_ordered() to the function .init.text:create_mapping()
[16:12] <dr_willis> I recall having to twiddle with fstab options to mount a ntfs partion to share it once... been a while.
[16:12] <Vivekananda> Do you mean to say that there is no difference at all in terms of programs execution and evironment in between gnome and L ?? Do you mean to say that if I disable or unistall compiz in gnome then it becomes lubunutu for all intents and purpose??
[16:12] <danman1453> you would think that the ipp settings in CUPS would play nice with anyone trying to use it.
[16:12] <aZuZu_> it is gcc 4.3.3
[16:12] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  compiz is a compositing window manager...  Lubuntu uses openbox as its wndow manager.
[16:13] <jim8888> does the /etc/ directory contain any sensitive information? i wish to back it up to save configs etc, but do not want to leak passwords etc...
[16:13] <dr_willis> compiz is ONLY a window manager.
[16:13] <SAngeli> dr_willis, this entire array needs for fileserver and backup. I need to make sure that what I replicate here is exactely like on windows and icons+permissions+.... are not. This is why I need to have an alternative to ext4
[16:13] <TakeItEZ> jim8888: at least /etc/shadow holds the password-hashes
[16:13] <D0minat0r> someone good at ffmpeg?
[16:13] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  i dont know if switching to ntfs will help in any way.. and may cause more issues..
[16:14] <SAngeli> dr_willis, I am testing so far
 how secure are the hashes? could someone decrypt them to cleartext?
[16:14] <danman1453> i have a ntfs volume shared through samba with no issues
[16:14] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  could be you may nees some more of the advanced features of samba also.
[16:14] <TakeItEZ> jim8888: yes, if he has time and computerpower
[16:14] <dr_willis> samba will be translating permissions no matter what fs you use i imagine
[16:15] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: ok . But my question is a bit broader and I took compiz as an example only. I use current gnome to run eclipse , servers, firefox and xchat and things like that . Will all these programs be available to me on lubuntu. What will I not have and what will I have. ?? Bacially , what are the major differences between gnome and lubuntu
[16:15] <Callum_> How can I adjust overscan on Ubuntu Server 12.04?
[16:15] <dr_willis> and doing other translations
[16:15] <SAngeli> dr_willis, will see. I can always switch back to ext4 at anytime. How abotu the fstab line? Any help?
[16:15] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  the desktop dosent matter
 with rainbow tables and brute force cracking?
[16:15] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  i just follow the examples at the ntfs-3g homepage.
[16:15] <SAngeli> ok
[16:15] <TakeItEZ> jim8888: just a matter of time and/or computerpower
[16:15] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  the fact you want to share it.. will  mean you may need to set up specific permissions/options also
 ok i will exclude that file from my backups!
[16:16] <SAngeli> dr_willis, yes all these done via Samba
[16:16] <SAngeli> dr_willis, the official homepage for linux would be?
[16:16] <dr_willis> ive only setup my ntfs to be shared vis samba as guest acconts
[16:16] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  the ntfs-3g homepage..
[16:17] <SAngeli> I do not find it googling around.
[16:17] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: Does it mean that if I install , say , xubuntu or say puppy linux it wont matter ?? How will I execute the eclipse gui on it if for some reason puppy or x doesnot support it . I still have to learn a lot so request a pointer to reading stuff or a detailed answer if possible :)
[16:17] <dr_willis> has examples and faqs and some good docs on ntfs
[16:17] <SAngeli> I get so many entries and do not know which one is it. I believe it should be this one:
[16:17] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  Puppylinux is a totally differnt disrto.. but  it should be able to run the same apps
[16:17] <SAngeli> dr_willis, http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/