[09:34] <mada> KeithWeisshar: call gateway and tell them you need recovery cds ... costs 35USD
[09:34] <aftertaf> DR_kK13, POS?
[09:34] <mada> KeithWeisshar: oh, then you don't need the recovery partition ... they both do the same thing
[09:34] <DR_kK13> piece of sh!t
[09:34] <aftertaf> oki ;)
[09:35] <iiiears> they are free in the first 90 days
[09:35] <someothernick> if he was to use the recovery partition wouldn't it write over ubuntu
[09:35] <mada> iiiears: didn't know that ... i always charged people :P
[09:35] <someothernick> unless its on a separate drive
[09:35] <xenex> i must watch porn, then go to sleep
[09:35] <iiiears> lol -
[09:35] <DR_kK13> even the wintendo fan boys dont like vista, granted its still Beta
[09:35] <mada> lol xenex
[09:35] <Davo_Dinkum> how can u delete the old kernel images?
[09:36] <aftertaf> Davo_Dinkum, apt-get remove the packages
[09:36] <aftertaf> or in synaptic..... but dont remove all of em.. (like i did once :) )
[09:36] <DR_kK13> I wist I could apt-get remove brain for a while
[09:36] <Madpilot> aftertaf, what happens when you remove all the images?
[09:37] <aftertaf> Madpilot, you end up with a funky kernel panic :)
[09:37] <iiiears> anything windows writes to your disk the gparted live cd can resize
[09:37] <concept10> any fluxbox users here?
[09:37] <ZDUX> rebooting...
[09:37] <Madpilot> aftertaf, I bet - was the machine bootable?
[09:37] <aftertaf> Madpilot, no .
[09:37] <mada> concept10: i used to swear by it
[09:37] <aftertaf> Madpilot, but cunning combined with a recovery cd and chroot got me up and running in 30 minutes :)
[09:38] <Madpilot> aftertaf, good job! Lesson learned: be careful what you delete! ;)
[09:38] <aftertaf> Madpilot, actually, i reoved all but the latest kernel, which had had an apt-upgrade. which made it kernel panic.....
[09:38] <aftertaf> totally :) hence my post ;)
[09:38] <KeithWeisshar> the recovery will overwrite ubuntu
[09:38] <Davo_Dinkum> never had a KP on ubuntu :D
[09:38] <concept10> I have this problem with fonts in Fluxbox.    Any suggestions?
[09:38] <KeithWeisshar> i can no longer boot ubuntu after using recovery dvd
[09:38] <concept10> mada, ***
[09:39] <mada> concept10: wait ... you load the gnome-theme-manager in fluxbox and it changes the fonts?
[09:40] <DR_kK13> I like flux
[09:40] <DR_kK13> havent intalled it on dapper yet.  I just installed
[09:40] <DR_kK13> lots better then the old version
[09:40] <DR_kK13> I like bacon and cheese sammiches
[09:40] <KeithWeisshar> the gateway came with an os recovery CD but no drivers included, it had drivers in the recovery partition
[09:40] <wulax> concept10: try this http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Openbox#Fonts_in_gtk_apps
[09:40] <concept10> mada, I started doing that, because it brings the gnome-look into fluxbox
[09:41] <mada> KeithWeisshar: drivers aren't needed, as long as you have a net connection you can download them all from the gateway website
[09:41] <KeithWeisshar> the gateway came with a minimal os recovery dvd but i had to create the drivers and application recovery dvd on my own
[09:41] <KeithWeisshar> the os recovery dvd doesn't include the intel network driver
[09:41] <wulax> concept10: you need to edit $HOME/.gtkrc.mine
[09:41] <mada> concept10: ahhh, rgr ... lemme go find you a link that i think will help
[09:41] <iiiears> << -- 8 '03 then 10 '05  and now 12 CDs to install windows to an Pavillion OEM machine. - 1 CD for Ubutnu. - 3+ hours to install patch and configure windows.
[09:41] <mada> KeithWeisshar: rgr, well that can be an issue
[09:41] <KeithWeisshar> the recovery dvd doesn't include any drivers
[09:42] <someothernick> iiiears, lol
[09:42] <KeithWeisshar> it's only a minimal cd containing the windows xp media center os
[09:42] <concept10> wulax, mada : thanks guys , that gives me a starting point
[09:43] <wulax> concept10: it works, even though it's for arch linux
[09:43] <KeithWeisshar> the gateway website only includes updated drivers, not the drivers that were included on the recovery partition
[09:43] <KeithWeisshar> it only includes drivers that were updated since the system was shipped
[09:43] <mada> iiiears: and what is awesome about HPs with ubuntu is that EVERYTHING functions, even media keys on keyboards and such because HP puts so much into the linux community, ubuntu includes their work and support their hardware
[09:43] <DR_kK13> how would I make Flux like borders in Gnome?  anyone have a window theme?
[09:44] <kat2> Q: I've just hooked in my second HD and would like to mount it - any hints?
[09:44] <bingogu> how do i remove a directory even it's not empty  ?how can i force to del it ?
[09:44] <KeithWeisshar> gateway also includes powerdvd and nero in the recovery partition
[09:44] <aftertaf> !tell kat2 about mount
[09:44] <concept10> wula, post your last again (my fonts are going crazy in xchat)
[09:44] <iiiears> mada - I keep buying for that reason. - laptops that use ATI video are a hassle.
[09:44] <KeithWeisshar> most of the preloaded software in the recovery partition are not downloadable
[09:44] <wulax> concept10: the link?
[09:44] <KenSentMe> bingogu: sudo rm -rf <dir>
[09:44] <medulla> kat2: i just did this less than 10 minutes ago...
[09:44] <AMD_Tx> sudo rm -Rf directory i think
[09:44] <medulla> i can help
[09:45] <Davo_Dinkum> can u still buy gateway PCs in the states? i thought they went broke
[09:45] <mada> concept10: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docbook/en/fluxbox-docs.html#AEN1672  <--check that out about the fonts, should help
[09:45] <AMD_Tx> i got a older gateway solo notebook its nice
[09:45] <bingogu> thks kensentme
[09:45] <DR_kK13> I finally got my ATI lappy card running 3d, what a pain in the ass
[09:45] <iiiears> Gateway was absorbed by EMachines
[09:45] <wulax> mada: you only need to edit $HOME/.gtkrc.mine
[09:46] <Locke__> dude what the hell is with xpilot
[09:46] <Locke__> you cant steer without using the lameass mouse?
[09:46] <medulla> Kat2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:46] <AMD_Tx> EMachines are crap
[09:46] <concept10> son of a .. I have to fix this, thanks wulax, later  muda
[09:46] <mada> wulax: oh, nvm ... i've never had font problems so i just went to the docs :P
[09:47] <Davo_Dinkum> is NTFS write ability working on ubuntu now?
[09:47] <iiiears> Davo_Dinkum: Make good backups.
[09:47] <iiiears> Davo_Dinkum: "ntfsprogs"
[09:47] <shenki_> crimsun: no luck with installing alsa-oss
[09:47] <medulla> Davo: slightly...
[09:47] <medulla> its not suggested...
[09:48] <Davo_Dinkum> its still pretty shoddy, aint it?
[09:48] <medulla> yes
[09:48] <kat2> Thank you.
[09:48] <crimsun> shenki_: please put the output from ``asoundconf list && tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && amixer'' onto http://pastebin.ca
[09:48] <david___> Ahh, I asked this question a few minutes ago, but my internet connection dropped out, so sorry....I have created a new partition in what was previously blank space on my hard drive, and formatted it as fat32 to share files between windows and ubuntu. however when i try to mount it i get thef following error - error: device /dev/hda4 is not removable
[09:48] <david___> error: could not execute pmount
[09:49] <mantono^> How can I load the nvidia-module with my server-kernel?
[09:49] <aftertaf> david___, what is the exact command you type to mount it?
[09:49] <luznegra> bye
[09:49] <aftertaf> mantono, is it installed?
[09:49] <mada> david___: try this in the command line "cat /etc/fstab" and see what it says for the partition
[09:50] <david___> I'm not sure of what I should do, but all I have done is used nautilus, right clicked on the drive, and selected mount
[09:50] <iiiears> dacid__- Hm, give mounter.sh or winmac_fstab.sh a try. http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[09:50] <Davo_Dinkum> david: that should b fine
[09:50] <Davo_Dinkum> see if it shows up on ur desktop
[09:50] <mantono^> aftertaf: yes
[09:50] <mantono^> it works good with another, older non-server kernel
[09:51] <aftertaf> Mang|sleep, i'd follow the nvidia wiki then, it has the correct commands....
[09:51] <mada> iiiears ftw!
[09:51] <aftertaf> !nvidia
[09:51] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:51] <iiiears> mada:  ??
[09:51] <david___> It shows up in the 'computer' section. when i run /etc/fstab   /dev/hda4, which is my new partition doesnt appear
[09:52] <iiiears> david__ Typo?
[09:52] <aftertaf> david___, have you tried mounting it from console?
[09:52] <david___> no i havent
[09:52] <david___> how could i do that?
[09:52] <medulla> david: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:52] <david___> thanks ill take a look
[09:52] <shenki_> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/67074
[09:52] <medulla> those steps should work
[09:52] <medulla> worked for me
[09:53] <crimsun> shenki_: ``uname -r''
[09:53] <iiiears> mdulla - does ubotu have a ! for that link?
[09:53] <shenki_> crimsun: 2.6.15-25-386
[09:53] <shenki_> crimsun: dapper with latest updates
[09:53] <mada> iiiears: i said "you for the win" ... you fixed that guys problem with alot less effort than what i was going to put him through
[09:54] <iiiears> mada - Okay. guess i am batting 300 now. - rofl
[09:54] <Woxcer> Hi Everyone!
[09:54] <crimsun> shenki_: do you normally have audible sound?
[09:54] <mada> iiiears: lmfao!!
[09:54] <shenki_> crimsun: yes. for example, I'm currently getting the audible pings when you name me
[09:55] <SNow> hello! :) I have recently installed ubuntu in my laptop, and it has a broadcom ethernet controller.. and the thing is, that it sees the interface, I set up the ip, gateway subnet.. and it does not respond to ping
[09:55] <crimsun> shenki_: ``lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*''
[09:55] <SNow> when I had XP, it wasn't able to find that lan card either... so I had to install drivers .exe from hp.com
[09:55] <mada> SNow: sudo dhclient <interface> and see what happens
[09:56] <SNow> but there aren't that kind of driver for linux
[09:56] <SNow> mada I'm not using dhcp
[09:56] <SNow> on my router
[09:56] <mada> oh ... rgr
[09:56] <aftertaf> snoops, broadcom gigabit ethernet drivers... theyre in the kernel i'm sure...
[09:56] <wulax> SNow: have you seen this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[09:56] <mada> well i am wireless on an iBookG4 w/ AirportExtreme which is an "unsupported broadcom" thing ... and i'm on linux
[09:56] <shenki_> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/67076
[09:56] <mada> :)
[09:57] <crimsun> shenki_: please /uncheck/ System> Preferences> Sound> Enable software sound mixing (ESD)
[09:57] <crimsun> shenki_: TeamSpeak requires exclusive access to /dev/dsp, sorry.
[09:57] <mada> SNow: what chipset are you using?
[09:57] <wulax> SNow: oh, nevermind
[09:57] <medulla> ZDUX... did you ever get the DVD fixed?
[09:57] <SNow> mada I don't actually know, how could I see it?
[09:58] <Woxcer> Hi Everyone!
[09:58] <crimsun> shenki_: you only need to restart TS after unchecking it and clicking Ok
[09:58] <shenki_> crimsun: :D well done, thankyou very much
[09:58] <crimsun> shenki_: np.
[09:58] <mada> SNow: that i don't know for sure, your system might see it as something its not since it doesn't seem to be working properly
[09:58] <SNow> It's not wireless
[09:58] <david__> I just did the automatic script thingy from the URL given, and it was completed successfully. also now when i go into gnome partition manager it has a lock next to it, when it previously didnt. however, it doesnt appear in the 'computer' listing wth the other drives
[09:58] <SNow> you see..
[09:58] <SNow> I have a cable inplugged
[09:58] <mada> SNow: ohhhh ok ...
[09:59] <mada> hrmm.... well then i don't know, never run into any issued with ubuntu not detecting the ethernet port ...
[09:59] <aftertaf> david__, open a console and try to CD to it.
[09:59] <mada> SNow: what make and model is the computer?
[10:00] <Woxcer> Hi Everyone!
[10:00] <SNow> mada hp nx 6110
[10:00] <david__> aftertaf - ok ... when i fire up terminal what should i type in cd /hda4 or something like that? I know its called hda4 but thats about all....I'm kinda new to this terminal stuff!
[10:00] <SNow> when I do dmesg | grep eth
[10:00] <SNow> I get this:
[10:00] <aftertaf> david__, cd [mountpoint]
[10:01] <SNow> [4294680.2280000]  eth0: registered as PCnet/PCI II 79c970A
[10:01] <mada> SNow: get what?
[10:01] <mada> rgr
[10:01] <david__> I can CD to it
[10:01] <david__> when i type in cd /media/hda4, it goes to it
[10:02] <aftertaf> david__, yeah but is it empty?
[10:02] <david__> yes
[10:02] <aftertaf> david__, open gparted and see if is shows it as mounted.
[10:02] <david__> it does
[10:02] <mada> brb
[10:02] <aftertaf> david__, and type 'cat /etc/mtab'
[10:03] <SNow> mada no Ideas? :)
[10:03] <david__> david@david-ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/mtab
[10:03] <david__> /dev/hda2 / ext2 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0
[10:03] <david__> proc /proc proc rw 0 0
[10:03] <david__> varrun /var/run tmpfs rw 0 0
[10:03] <david__> varlock /var/lock tmpfs rw 0 0
[10:03] <david__> procbususb /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0
[10:03] <david__> udev /dev tmpfs rw 0 0
[10:03] <david__> devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
[10:03] <david__> devshm /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
[10:03] <david__> lrm /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/volatile tmpfs rw 0 0
[10:03] <david__> /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 0
[10:03] <david__> /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 0
[10:03] <david__> binfmt_misc /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc rw 0 0
[10:03] <david__> /dev/hda4 /media/hda4 vfat rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[10:03] <david__> /dev/sdd1 /media/usbdisk vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8 0 0
[10:04] <aftertaf> david__,
[10:04] <aftertaf> !pastebin
[10:04] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long pieces of text, to avoid disrupting the channel. You might also want to use the "webboard" package from Universe.
[10:04] <aftertaf> !!!!!!!!!
[10:04] <ubotu> aftertaf: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:04] <david__> ahh, sorry, ive never used IRC before
[10:04] <david__> Sorry chaps
[10:04] <aftertaf> s'ok , it happens!!!!
[10:04] <aftertaf> /dev/hda4 /media/hda4 vfat rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0    looks OK to me.
[10:05] <aftertaf> david__, type 'df -h' do you see free disk entry for hda4 ?
[10:05] <ddrj> hey guys, newb here switching from windows to ubuntu, i was wondering which file i download? it's for home use and not amd64, so between powerpc and i386, which do i choose? once again sorry for the newb question
[10:05] <aftertaf> ddrj, what is your processor?
[10:05] <ddrj> it is intel
[10:05] <aftertaf> 99% of cases, get i386
[10:05] <aftertaf> get i386 then .
[10:05] <aftertaf> :]
[10:05] <ddrj> ahh perfect thanks aftertaf :D
[10:05] <david__> /dev/hda4              45G   16K   45G   1% /media/hda4
[10:06] <aftertaf> david__, then its mounted.... fill away :]
[10:06] <david__> Excellent...the only problem is that it doesnt appear in the list with the other drives, should it? or do i just navigate to /media/hda4?
[10:07] <MyNameIsNotBob> Is there anyone here who is able to help me with sound related issues, i can't work it out (yes, i've tried the HOWTO)?
[10:07] <SNow> heyy anyone, can you help me or not :)
[10:07] <aftertaf> david__, i dont know how or why nautlius works...... cant help on that. navigate to the mountpoint is better ;)
[10:07] <SNow> there is a lan card setuped broadcom in ubuntu, but it doesn't work!
[10:07] <david__> ok, thanks for the help!
[10:07] <aftertaf> SNow, have you checked its not a firewall issue?
[10:08] <MyNameIsNotBob> aftertaf, ubuntu - firewall?
[10:08] <aftertaf> yup bob ;)
[10:09] <david__>  Well im off to fill up my new partition now, thanks for the help aftertaf!
[10:09] <aftertaf> lol :) ok
[10:09] <MyNameIsNotBob> Anybody able to help with my sound issue?
[10:09] <aftertaf> MyNameIsNotBob, do you have ANY sound at all?
[10:10] <crimsun> MyNameIsNotBob: what precisely is your sound issue?
[10:10] <MyNameIsNotBob> aftertaf, not that i know of, i have no sound
[10:11] <Locke_> im now gonna make xmms my alarm clock
[10:11] <aftertaf> im not a sound expert, i know there are commands like asound thet help diagnose.....
[10:11] <crimsun> MyNameIsNotBob:  please put the output from ``asoundconf list && tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && amixer'' onto http://pastebin.ca
[10:12] <ZDUX> I am not able to use my dvd drive (read only drive) is there a way to tell if it is incompatible  ?
[10:12] <aftertaf> ZDUX, can it read anything? cds...?
[10:13] <ZDUX> not data, not video,, I'll try  CD right now
[10:13] <MyNameIsNotBob> crimsun, http://pastebin.ca/67083
[10:14] <ZDUX> afteraf: it always reports no media
[10:14] <aftertaf> sudo mount /media/cdrom  ?
[10:14] <ZDUX> afteraf: it does eject, inject
[10:15] <aftertaf> so its connected to the PSU then :]
[10:15] <ZDUX> afteraf: no media found
[10:15] <aftertaf> ZDUX, and in win it works fine?
[10:15] <SNow> aftertaf it's fresh install
[10:15] <crimsun> MyNameIsNotBob: ``cat /proc/asound/modules && lspci -v && lspci -nv && dmesg''
[10:16] <ZDUX> afteraf: windows can read it,,
[10:16] <aftertaf> SNow, ok.... might be drivers then....
[10:16] <aftertaf> ZDUX, ahh. non compatible seems fair then.
[10:16] <ZDUX> afteraf:I got it out of a linux magizine it's a free dvd
[10:17] <aftertaf> SNow, lsmod shows which driver is used?
[10:17] <aftertaf> ZDUX, only with one dvd you have this problem?
[10:17] <ZDUX> afteraf: no all media so far
[10:17] <aftertaf> drive not compatiblme linux then, for some reason.... imho
[10:17] <ZDUX> afteraf: cd audio also
[10:18] <ZDUX> afteraf: yes that's what I'm thinking
[10:18] <SNow> it responds to it's ping
[10:18] <SNow> aftertaf but I installed it now using VMWARE
[10:18] <SNow> :)
[10:18] <MyNameIsNotBob> crimsun, http://pastebin.ca/67084, thats a lot of information
[10:18] <ZDUX> afteraf: I don't suppose there is a list of compatible or incompatible dvd drives ?
[10:19] <SNow> anyone else?
[10:19] <ZDUX> aftertaf: I have a usb dvd drive,, I've never tried usb on linux,, can I just plug it in?
[10:20] <aftertaf> SNow, i'm not following you here....
[10:20] <aftertaf> ZDUX, yep, plug n play :]
[10:20] <CrippsFX> using the ubuntu install CD, how can I create a floppy that will boot from a USB key with GRUB?
[10:20] <crimsun> MyNameIsNotBob: I don't see the output from ``cat /proc/asound/modules''...
[10:20] <pc22> does dapper installer have xfce ? or do i need to install using internet
[10:21] <aftertaf> pc22, apt-get install xubuntu
[10:21] <Madpilot> pc22, there's a Xubuntu install CD too
[10:21] <human> pc22, you will either have to use the xubuntu install cd
[10:22] <gdb> I believe it's xubuntu-desktop
[10:22] <MyNameIsNotBob> crimsun, that gives0 snd_ali5451
[10:22] <gdb> (That's the name of the metapackage).
[10:22] <pc22> ok heres the case. im installing using ubuntudapper then installing as server
[10:22] <Duke01> Hi Everyone!
[10:23] <crimsun> MyNameIsNotBob: ok, give me a sec to check the source code.
[10:23] <gdb> crimsun: Hey, you were helping me with sound the other day.  I wanted to let you know that sound actually works great out the back ports of the Optiplex GX620.  Just not out of the Dell Internal Business Audio Speaker.  So, sound works!  Just need an external speaker to hear it. ;-)
[10:23] <MyNameIsNotBob> crimsun, no worries, thanks
[10:24] <ZDUX> afteraf: new one works,, thanks
[10:26] <crimsun> gdb: yes, I see the quirk for it, but I doubt I'll have time to backport it this week
[10:27] <pc22> so what do u think human
[10:28] <aftertaf> gdb, yeah right. my mistake.... ;)
[10:28] <human> pc22, if you don't have an internet connection or prefer a pure xfce desktop, get the xubuntu install cd
[10:28] <pc22> gnome desktop as server install
[10:29] <B1zz> I have an ssh server running in my network, i can connect to it and all but when i issue the command ssh <IP_ADDRESS> -l username -X xclock i get thise messgae Error: Can't open display:
[10:30] <pc22> actually im having difficulty configuring internet connection not using GUI
[10:31] <pc22> human actually im having difficulty configuring internet connection not using GUI
[10:31] <lampshade> what's the best way to make ubuntu load a module you've installed on startup?  It seems like there are several ways-- which is the best?
[10:32] <KrisWood> does anyone know if I need any extra packages to get cedega to work in ubuntu?
[10:32] <[FDC] Pvt|Cus> Hello everyone
[10:32] <[FDC] Pvt|Cus> What are the system requirements for Ubuntu?
[10:32] <aftertaf> dont think so..... KrisWood . Wine...
[10:33] <aftertaf> [FDC] Pvt|Cus, doesnt need much, can adapt to most configs......
[10:33] <dragoon> does dapper have a java dev package
[10:33] <lampshade> dragoon: yeah
[10:33] <[FDC] Pvt|Cus> thank you aftertaf
[10:33] <aftertaf> dragoon, apt-cache search java ;)
[10:33] <lampshade> what's the best way to make ubuntu load a module you've installed on startup?  It seems like there are several ways-- which is the best?
[10:33] <dragoon> aftertaf: way to much stuff there
[10:33] <lampshade> just echo "modprobe mymodule" >> modules.d ??
[10:33] <Phenom> Hey I finally connected! :)
[10:34] <aftertaf> dragoon, apt-cache search java  |grep dev
[10:34] <Phenom> Thought I was banned from this server for some reason heh
[10:34] <Celestianpower> Hello
[10:34] <Phenom> Hello everyone :)
[10:34] <dragoon> ok
[10:34] <Celestianpower> I need help with sound - neither Audacity nor Skype is working
[10:35] <zF> Question
[10:35] <crimsun> MyNameIsNotBob: I /think/ I see a solution for your ac97 codec timing out
[10:35] <zF> I'm installing Dapper and am creating a partition for the linux-swap
[10:35] <Celestianpower> "error initialising Audio i/o player" and "Problem with sound device" respectively
[10:35] <zF> Do I want to create the swapr partion as the primary partition or the extended partition?
[10:35] <MyNameIsNotBob> crimsun, uh huh
[10:35] <crimsun> MyNameIsNotBob: I'm travelling for business this week, but I will attempt to address it
[10:36] <Madpilot> Celestianpower, I don't use either app, but sound problems with them both are known issues
[10:36] <MyNameIsNotBob> crimsun, ok
[10:36] <Phenom> Im having an problem with installing Apache,PHP, Mysql under Ubuntu 5.10 breezy badger, can someone help me please?
[10:36] <Celestianpower> Madpilot: Oh - they used to work, then suddenly, they dstopped working
[10:36] <Phenom> I am on a fresh install
[10:37] <zF> When creating a Linux-swap partition while installing Ubuntu, do I want to create the partition as a "Primary Partition" or a "Exteneded Partition"
[10:37] <gdb> zF: extended partitions aren't "real" in the sense that you can use them for filesystems or swap.  You can use primary and logical partitions for that.    You can have 1-4 primary parititions, or 1-3 primary partitions with 1 extended partition containing logical partitions.
[10:37] <Celestianpower> MadI can record sound in Sound recorder, if I select "Microphone" rather than "Capture" in the drop-down box
[10:37] <crimsun> MyNameIsNotBob: please add your comments to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/36040
[10:37] <MyNameIsNotBob> Celestianpower, i've just had crimsun looking at what may be the same problem
[10:37] <zF> gdb: thanks, I think that clears things up.
[10:37] <Celestianpower> MyNameIsNotBob: I see
[10:38] <MyNameIsNotBob> crimsun, what do i need to say?
[10:38] <zF> If my HD is 55GB, how large should my linux-swap partition be?
[10:38] <fl4b> zf-how much ram do you have
[10:38] <zF> fl4b: 512 MBs
[10:38] <Lynoure> zF: Often people go for 1-3 times the size of the memory you have
[10:39] <Lynoure> s/you/they
[10:39] <fl4b> zF- for a standard comp go for 1 g
[10:39] <crimsun> MyNameIsNotBob: well, your issues, of course :)
[10:39] <fl4b> zf- for a server esp databases go higher
[10:39] <MyNameIsNotBob> crimsun, "it doesn't work"?
[10:39] <crimsun> MyNameIsNotBob: and please /attach/  (don't comment inline) those pastes that I asked for
[10:39] <zF> fl4b: that's what I was thinking, thanks. Also, good advice to know in the future.
[10:39] <MyNameIsNotBob> crimsun, ok
[10:39] <crimsun> MyNameIsNotBob: a bit more descriptive than that, I would hope
[10:39] <zF> Lynoure, thanks as well.
[10:39] <gdb> zF: In general, you want 1-2xRAM as swap.  While Linux (still) does not support core dumps on kernel panics, you need at least 1xRAM to support that dump (if/when Linux ever supports it).
[10:40] <[FDC] Pvt|Cus> Im undecided as to what Linux I should get...   between Gentoo and Ubuntu, can some one please suggest which one is better and why?
[10:40] <arigo> why doesn't linux support it?
[10:40] <disinterested> how do i add a line to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:40] <fl4b> since youre in a ubuntu irc everyone will go ubuntu
[10:40] <gdb> On my system which has 2GB of RAM and a 250GB system disk, the installer created a 6GB swap partition. :-P
[10:40] <dragoon> [FDC] Pvt|Cus: do you know how to use linux ?
[10:40] <gdb> arigo: I don't know, it's the only Unix OS that doesn't, to my knowledge. :-) (No, I'm not going to split hairs and say Unix-like).
[10:41] <[FDC] Pvt|Cus> dragoon:  not really, this will be my first time
[10:41] <Lynoure> arigo: Short answer is probably that no one build it in... (guessing)
[10:41] <Madpilot> gdb, with 2Gb RAM, you don't need swap at all, really
[10:41] <dragoon> [FDC] Pvt|Cus: use ubuntu then
[10:41] <fl4b> FDC- ubuntu is vv good for beginners to linux
[10:41] <Lynoure> arigo: --> no one wanted it badly enough
[10:41] <[FDC] Pvt|Cus> ok cool
[10:41] <[FDC] Pvt|Cus> thank you
[10:41] <BlueEagle> [fdc] pvt|cus: Ubuntu is better than Gentoo when it comes to starting with linux. Ubuntu is much more user friendly. Also it's very much quicker to install. Gentoo on the other hand is better if you want to get your hands "semi-dirty" as it does offer more choice as to which packages you want installed. Also it allowes for more optimized packages as they are all compiled from source.
[10:41] <gdb> Madpilot: In general, no, I think the system has swapped out all of 25MB since it was set up. lol
[10:41] <Madpilot> gdb, I've only got 1Gb, never bothered with swap, never really needed it
[10:42] <[FDC] Pvt|Cus> thank you BlueEagle for the detail, I appreciate it
[10:42] <fl4b> If hes asking which he shoudl go for, he is prob a beginner-> should use ubuntu
[10:42] <gdb> Madpilot: Most likely those were processes that had not requested cycles in quite some time so the system swapped them out for efficiency, not because the machine was starved for RAM.
[10:42] <[FDC] Pvt|Cus> awesome
[10:42] <[FDC] Pvt|Cus> downloading Ubuntu now
[10:42] <fl4b> make sure you get normal install, not alternative (i did that)
[10:42] <dragoon> hrm, their appears to be no swt-dev package for ubuntu
[10:42] <[FDC] Pvt|Cus> whats the "minimum" system requirement for Ubuntu (Just curious)
[10:43] <fl4b> ubuntu will run on pretty much anything
[10:43] <gdb> Gentoo -> http://funroll-loops.org/
[10:43] <Madpilot> [FDC] Pvt|Cus, at least 128Mb of RAM - more is better
[10:44] <matti> gdb: Well.
[10:44] <fl4b> running on desktop may need 400mhz (overestimate i think) and 128mb ram
[10:44] <BlueEagle> [fdc] pvt|cus: I would recomend 256mb ram for the live-cd install. Atleast kubuntu hung on 160mb ram.
[10:44] <Guardian> hello. anyone else experienced bigger fonts after upgrade by upgrade manager ???
[10:44] <Madpilot> gdb, funny, but offtopic
[10:44] <gdb> [FDC] Pvt|Cus: I was running it recently on a 325MHz Pentium with 128MB of RAM and 10GB disk (Tecra 8000 laptop).  It ran well.  I can imagine one can use even less hardware than that.
[10:44] <fl4b> server version will run on anything
[10:44] <gdb> Madpilot: I'm glad you're here to tell me these kinds of things.
[10:44] <fl4b> if you have a really old comp, try Xubuntu
[10:44] <Madpilot> gdb, I'm an op, it's what we do :)
[10:45] <BlueEagle> [fdc] pvt|cus: Also if  you intend to "use" it 256 is the lowest i would recomend. _However_ it is _posssible_ go get ubuntu running with a graphical login on 128mb. But you want to use it too, don't you?
[10:45] <xenex> !uset autoinvite 1
[10:45] <ubotu> xenex: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:46] <MyNameIsNotBob> crimsun, done
[10:46] <crimsun> MyNameIsNotBob: thanks
[10:46] <Phenom> I have installed Apache, now when I untar,  ./configure MySQL and try to make in a terminal it tells me "*** Notarget specified and no makefile found. Stop. but I am following directions I have found on the net to a T
[10:47] <PwcrLinux> Does anyone who have a APCI display for temperature level following the temperature in F and C, I show the temp still 51C Passive (Fan running now).
[10:47] <Phenom> There is no makefile in the mysql folder also
[10:47] <fl4b> what is CVS?
[10:47] <MyNameIsNotBob> crimsun, no worries, thanks for the assistance
[10:47] <gdb> Phenom: Might I ask why the MySQL packages that are offered for Ubuntu via apt are not sufficient?
[10:47] <YoussefAssad> Hey folks. Does anyone know if there's jboss in the ubuntu sources anywhere?
[10:47] <gdb> Phenom: (Because if they are, you'll save yourself a world of headache). ;-)
[10:48] <PwcrLinux> !acpi
[10:48] <ubotu> PwcrLinux: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:48] <PwcrLinux> Hmm
[10:48] <Phenom> gdb, I am new to Ubuntu aswell as a Linux beginner, this never crossed my mind probly because I dont excatally know how to use apt
[10:48] <aftertaf> Phenom, try ./autogen.sh
[10:48] <aftertaf> but better to apt get phenom, 10000% sure
[10:48] <Madpilot> Phenom, mysql is in Ubuntu's repos
[10:49] <Phenom> I believe I installed from the respos :)
[10:49] <Madpilot> Phenom, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:49] <gdb> Phenom: First do "apt-cache search mysql" -- you'll see a list of packages that have to do with mysql, including the database software itself.  Pick the packges you want and do "sudo apt-get install package1 package2 package3" and so on.
[10:49] <xenex> good night
[10:49] <gdb> Phenom: After entering your password (normal user password) the system will install and configure mysql for you.
[10:49] <Harnak> is there a way to apt-get upgrade a 64bit system to 32bit?
[10:50] <gdb> Phenom: Of course, the document that Madpilot suggested is probably going to give you more detailed instructions.
[10:50] <Phenom> gdb, should I uninstall everything relating to apache, SQL i have installed already?
[10:50] <neilbags> hi i've got breezy installed and i want to upgrade to dapper (using the cd - no net connection) what would be the easiest way to do this?
[10:50] <gdb> Phenom: Well, was that software you installed by hand or using apt-get?
[10:50] <Hoxzer> Harnak: LOL is 64bit getting u pissed off ^^?
[10:51] <fl4b> neilbags- prob best to do a full reinstall
[10:51] <Phenom> gdb, by hand
[10:51] <Harnak> hoxzer: yeah.. just a bit at the moment.. heh
[10:51] <YoussefAssad> first time I see 64 to 32 bit being billed as upgrade
[10:51] <Celestianpower> The thing I find odd is that I can record sound in "Soiyunds recorder" but I have to select "Microphone" as the recorsding device manually. By defauly it sets to "Capture"
[10:51] <Harnak> youssefassad: indeed!
[10:51] <Celestianpower> Perhaps that means something to you?
[10:51] <Hoxzer> Harnak: :D I remember when I installed it, almost got me to mental hospital
[10:51] <gdb> Phenom: If you installed it by hand, then I'm afraid I'm a bit too new to Debian based systems to help you with getting apt to work with that software.  However, if you want to keep all of your software under package management (and I think you do) then I'd suggest removing it and using apt-get to install apache2, mysql, php, and so on.  I'm sure the document Madpilot suggested covers what you need.
[10:51] <YoussefAssad> Harnak: you have my sympathies :)
[10:52] <Beta_M> how do i restart the samba thing?
[10:52] <WARlrus> Hi all :)
[10:52] <gdb> Beta_M: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[10:52] <Harnak> hoxzer:  just trying to really avoid having to download an iso image
[10:52] <neilbags> fl4b: ok ... i don't need the data on it anyway . but is there a way to upgrade w/out net?
[10:52] <Phenom> gdb, Thank you :)
[10:52] <gdb> Phenom: Sure thing!  And good luck with that!
[10:52] <Beta_M> gdb:  thanks
[10:52] <Harnak> YoussefAssad: Thank you! hehe
[10:52] <YoussefAssad> am I the only person who turned the sudo thing off?
[10:52] <Hoxzer> Harnak: what connection do u have?
[10:52] <Phenom> I don't need luck, I have IRC :)
[10:52] <gdb> :-D
[10:52] <YoussefAssad> with sudo, you lose a lot of bash completion
[10:53] <Harnak> hoxzer: dsl 3.5 Mbps down
[10:53] <fl4b> neilbags- i dont know about upgrade. but full install cds are shipped for free if you want.
[10:53] <WARlrus> I've just run Ubuntu off an ISO image on a CD, and need to get it working on a wireless network, how do i configure Ubuntu to do that?
[10:53] <njan> YoussefAssad, sudo -s
[10:53] <gdb> YoussefAssad: Even if you keep it enabled, you can still easily get a root shell by using "sudo -i" (akin to su -l) or "sudo -s" (akin to plain old "su").
[10:53] <Harnak> Hoxzer: probably should just go for it and download the cd..
[10:53] <gdb> Note that su -l and su - are equivalent.
[10:53] <Hoxzer> yeah
[10:53] <neilbags> i have the install cd already ... i just want to know for future reference whether you can do an upgrade using the install cd
[10:54] <Beta_M> It would be a nice thing to get auto complete working though
[10:54] <njan> You can also enable bash smart completion, YoussefAssad .. http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/28/turn-on-bash-smart-completion/
[10:54] <Beta_M> after sudo that is
[10:54] <gdb> neilbags: I believe I read somewhere that the live CD is not suited for doing a system upgrade.
[10:54] <fl4b> im not sure. I think there is a way to specify using a cd as repository source in synaptic
[10:54] <achandra> hello. Anyone aware of an ubuntu specific how to for creating an ldap authenticating server for linux clients?
[10:54] <gdb> Beta_M: I don't know what you're referring to.  Tab command completion works fine for me after starting a command with "sudo".
[10:54] <gdb> Beta_M: Is that what you're referring to?
[10:54] <njan> gdb, I hink he means when you've typed in sudo
[10:55] <WARlrus> I've just run Ubuntu off an ISO image on a CD, and need to get it working on a wireless network, how do i configure Ubuntu to do that?
[10:55] <njan> gdb, ie. being able to "sudo evo<tab>" to launch evolution using sudo..
[10:55] <YoussefAssad> still can't believe that there's no jboss in the sources :\
[10:55] <Beta_M> gdb:  if you type "sudo mou" and press [TAB]  you don't get "mount" completed
[10:55] <neilbags> fl4b: i tried putting the cdrom into the sources.list and doing an apt-get dist-upgrade but it didn't do anything
[10:55] <t-thing> I've just woken out of hibernation and I can't pmount my external hd connected with firewire since there is no such device /dev/sda1. This clearly is problem related to hibernation, I had to disconnect my usb keyboard to get it working but the same didn't work for the external hd. What to do? Can I restart some service or would reinstalling some kernel module do the trick?
[10:55] <gdb> njan: Which seems to work fine for me.
[10:55] <njan> (not that I know why you'd want to launch evolution as root..)
[10:55] <fl4b> ok. cant help u then
[10:55] <njan> gdb, you probably have bash smart completion enabled.
[10:55] <gdb> Beta_M: It works fine for me.  Typing "sudo mou" and then hitting tab gives me "sudo mount".
[10:55] <njan> it doesn't work for me in dapper, gdb.
[10:55] <fl4b> WARlrus- have you installed ubuntu, or running off live cd
[10:56] <gdb> I'm running Dapper and I've changed nothing from the installed defaults.
[10:56] <Beta_M> dapper here, doesn't work
[10:56] <gdb> weird
[10:56] <njan> gdb, clean dapper or upgraded dapper?
[10:56] <achandra> WARlrus: is your wireless card natively found by ubuntu... ??
[10:56] <gdb> njan: clean install
[10:56] <Beta_M> i've upgraded
[10:56] <njan> gdb, it probably wasn't the default in earlier versions then
[10:56] <Beta_M> maybe that's what it is
[10:56] <WARlrus> achandra: How do I find that out?
[10:56] <njan> because I upgraded too
[10:56] <achandra> lsmod
[10:56] <njan> Beta_M, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/28/turn-on-bash-smart-completion/
[10:56] <WARlrus> :S
[10:56] <njan> you can enable it ;)
[10:56] <gdb> Beta_M, njan: You both probably want to look at /etc/skel/.bashrc then and look for the section that sources /etc/bash_completion.
[10:57] <gdb> And then add that to your own .bashrc.
[10:57] <Beta_M> i'll try
[10:57] <achandra> look for anything resembling the card first...and check to see whether its been claimed..
[10:57] <njan> gdb, I'd rather edit in /etc/bash.bashrc than ~/.bashrc
[10:57] <achandra> what are you running it on??
[10:57] <njan> gdb, less administrative effort :)
[10:57] <WARlrus> where should I look for it?
[10:57] <goudkov> in which package can i find the truncate command?
[10:57] <achandra> lsmod | more
[10:58] <WARlrus> I'm sorry, I'm a complete n00b to linux, is that a command I need to run or a filepath?
[10:58] <gdb> njan: Well, new users are going to get /etc/skel copied to their home directories already and get the bash_completion stuff sourced already.  I'm not sure any editing there is necessary.
[10:58] <achandra> WARlrus: or better yet in the right hand corner of the screen do you see a network icon?
[10:58] <gdb> njan: But I do see your point nonetheless.
[10:58] <njan> gdb, new users will
[10:58] <WARlrus> I see a bin, but nothing else
[10:58] <achandra> ie "Network Connection"
[10:59] <WARlrus> erm no, can't see one
[10:59] <njan> gdb, but for most users where there's 1 user, the skel change is unnecessary, you're making two changes (in the skel version and the ~ version) where you could be making one..
[10:59] <njan> But yeah. Either works. :)
[10:59] <achandra> do this- sudo ifconfig
[10:59] <gdb> But this entire thing raises an interesting point, I didn't know that was a special feature of bash that had to be enabled.  It's always worked like that for me.  I come from a Red Hat / Fedora background.
[10:59] <achandra> what pops up?
[10:59] <njan> gdb, It is the sort of thing that redhat has enabled by default. :P
[11:00] <gdb> njan: There is no change in the skel version, it's already there.  It's not included in your personal .bashrc due to the upgrade of your OS.
[11:00] <njan> gdb, completion and syntax highlighting are typically disabled by default in debian, and by extension distros based on debian..
[11:00] <WARlrus> where do I run that command?
[11:00] <gdb> Ah, I see.
[11:00] <achandra> Warlrus: command line.. Uhm..Applications , Applications, Terminal
[11:01] <gdb> Well, it looks like Dapper is departing from that tradtion then.   And it's a good change, IMO.  Not because I'm used to it, but because it's an ease of use feature that, frankly, I don't see why one wouldn't want it.
[11:01] <njan> gdb, one of the first things I do in debian/ubuntu is enable syntax highlighting in vimrc and edit bashrc to enable completion/alias ls to use --color :)
[11:01] <njan> gdb, agreed.
[11:01] <WARlrus> found it :) it says a "Local Loopback"
[11:01] <WARlrus> nothing to do with my wireless there
[11:01] <gdb> Color ls was working by default for me in Breezy and Dapper (Breezy is the first Ubuntu I used, and only for about 3 weeks before Dapper released).
[11:01] <YoussefAssad> njan: me too. Only thing really missing is a color version of less
[11:02] <Beta_M> where are colours of 'ls' defined?
[11:02] <KrisWood> anyone know how to add more subtitle formats to ubuntu?
[11:02] <KrisWood> my mplayer doesn't have an option of choosing the subtitle format I need
[11:02] <gdb> YoussefAssad: I don't think any version of less supports color.  At least I've never seen it, including on Red Hat based distributions.
[11:02] <Ademan> !tell Ademan about rar
[11:02] <YoussefAssad> gdb: me neither
[11:02] <gdb> Beta_M: Generally it's /etc/DIRCOLORS.
[11:02] <achandra> WARlrus: so no ethernet devices enabled then... only local lopback...right?
[11:02] <gdb> Beta_M: Which doesn't seem to exist on this Dapper system. ;-)
[11:02] <achandra> loopback..
[11:02] <YoussefAssad> gdb: though you can use vim instead of less for manpages and so on
[11:03] <Arafangion> My DVD playing is choppy - it seems that my DVD player is too fast, and so it stops (got all the data), it's when it has to spin up again that the playback becomes choppy.
[11:03] <WARlrus> yeah, the loopback is the only one that shows when I run that command
[11:03] <Arafangion> Any solutions?
[11:03] <Beta_M> gdb:  i know, just noticed
[11:03] <gdb> Beta_M: I didn't notice it until I said to look there, and then thought I should verify that first. ;-)
[11:03] <achandra> WARlrus: any idea of what kind of card "is" installed? what kind of system or laptop?
[11:04] <mjr> Arafangion, you may be able to alter the read speed with hdparm -E
[11:04] <WARlrus> erm the router I'm connecting to is a Netgear, and the card is on a PC - its a buffalo one
[11:04] <mjr> Arafangion, but I'm not sure if that works for DVD reading (it's a CD option)
[11:04] <Arafangion> mjr: I could give that a go, how slow do you think I should try it?
[11:04] <Arafangion> mjr: That's unfortunate.
[11:05] <WARlrus> The wireless works fine on Windows, but i've installed ubuntu as a second OS and need to get the internet on it
[11:05] <mjr> Arafangion, well, maybe 8, then 2
[11:05] <mjr> Arafangion, yah, but try it anyways
[11:05] <Arafangion> mjr: I have done hdparm -d1, which helped significantly.
[11:05] <achandra> WARlrus: try this.. System, Administration, Networking..
[11:05] <Arafangion> (It's actually not that bad now, seems to just be choppy at the start.
[11:05] <Guardian> hello. anyone else experienced bigger fonts after upgrade by upgrade manager ???
[11:05] <mjr> Arafangion, that would help, yes :)
[11:07] <achandra> WARlrus: find it ?
[11:07] <WARlrus> One moment
[11:07] <achandra> k
[11:08] <WARlrus> It comes up with "Modem connection", but nothing to do with wireless
[11:08] <Gonzo> any reason why i can't access my users and group administration program?
[11:08] <MatthewV> Gonzo, error?
[11:08] <Gonzo> its there... but it doesn't open when i click on it
[11:08] <Gonzo> just a minute
[11:08] <jneves> anyone knows where I can find the kernel configuration for dapper's boot image?
[11:08] <harm_> Gonzo start it via a terminal
[11:09] <crimsun> jneves: /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[11:09] <Gonzo> sudo: users-admin: command not found
[11:09] <Gonzo> xauth: /tmp/libgksu1.2-1vwLyW/.Xauthority
[11:09] <Gonzo> xauth_env: /home/gonzo/.Xauthority
[11:09] <Gonzo> dir: /tmp/libgksu1.2-1vwLyW
[11:09] <Gonzo> thats tru terminal with --debug
[11:09] <achandra> WARlrus: that likely means that no module is available readily for that card...hence Ubuntu didnt find an available module to load...
[11:09] <WARlrus> Okay, where could I get a module for the card then?
[11:10] <burgermann> Where does synaptic store downloaded deb packages?
[11:10] <Gonzo> and now it says (gksu:17955): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[11:10] <jneves> burgermann: /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:10] <burgermann> jneves: thx
[11:10] <achandra> WARlrus: however if you know the exact name of the card..there is two ways around...compile a module....and try it... or use something like ndis wrapper which uses windows inf file and load it into the system
[11:11] <achandra> WARlrus: A google search...if you know the name of the card id be glad to help you search.
[11:11] <WARlrus> I could find out the name of the card...
[11:11] <achandra> k
[11:11] <WARlrus> One moment, I will try and find the manual
[11:11] <meandi> Hi, I have just burned a CD with ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso and boot from it in order to try ubuntu for the first time. Will it in any way use space from my disks and is there a risk it will destroy something on it. I have a number of NTFS file partitions and also partitions that is encrypted on sector level so it looks like they are not used until they are decrypted.
[11:12] <achandra> meandi: Assuming you dont pick install on the desktop in anyway the answer is theoretically NO.
[11:12] <llama32> how do i see which processes are using the internet? im on dialup and something is gobbling all my bandwidth so i can't browse the web or use msn or anything...
[11:12] <meandi> ok, so doesn't it need any disk space at all then?
[11:13] <gumpish> Yeargh... Anyone know how to get dhcpd to issue DHCPNAKs for specific address pools? I tried declaring my static range in a pool with the "deny all clients;" directive, but the server isn't denying renewal requests from machines that were previously dynamically assigned an address from that range...
[11:13] <T1966> hello
[11:13] <Gonzo> when i click on the users and groups in the menu... it seems to be starting up but then it ends up closing down before i see anything
[11:13] <WARlrus> The name of my wireless card is -> Buffalo AirStation g54 (54mbps Wireless PCI Card with Omni Antenna) (WLI-PCI-G54)
[11:13] <achandra> meandi: I have personally used to save an F'd up NT system..so unless anyone has another opinion..its pretty safe..
[11:13] <T1966> Have a problem with my sound
[11:14] <meandi> achandra: I assume there is no way to read my NTS filesystems when running ubundo, right?
[11:14] <achandra> WARlrus: time do the google search!lol..
[11:14] <meandi> NTFS
[11:15] <WARlrus> Okay lol
[11:15] <T1966> need some help with a sound problem
[11:15] <achandra> meandi: on the contrary I think...just like Damn small linux it will find NTFS
[11:15] <achandra> and let you view stuff.
[11:15] <achandra> let me guess winblows crashed on you??
[11:16] <achandra> or are you just testing..
[11:16] <Phenom> Hello again I have a question
[11:16] <Phenom> How do I figure out my username group?
[11:16] <gdb> Phenom: It will be the same as your username, but you can use the "id" command in a terminal.
[11:16] <farous> which is recommended powersaved or powernowd?
[11:16] <Frogzoo> Phenom: groups - user group is 1st listed
[11:16] <Phenom> I recieve the error "apache2: bad group name 1000
[11:16] <Phenom> " when I try to stop,start Apache
[11:16] <achandra> WARlrus: ill take a look for it as well....is your is system on intel 32 bit or are you running 64 bit stuff.
[11:17] <achandra> ??
[11:17] <WARlrus> I'm on 64bit
[11:17] <WARlrus> and Thanks :)
[11:17] <achandra> AMD?
[11:17] <Davo_Dinkum> AMD or intel?
[11:17] <T1966> when I installed Ubuntu I lost the sound.  Do I have to find drivers for it?
[11:17] <WARlrus> AMD
[11:17] <zF> Question, if I'm planning on running Windows XP off VMserver
[11:17] <snoops> ya know achandra what with all the updates ubuntu gets, it's a lot more unstable than my basic windows install dual booted.. NT is pretty reliable..we arent in the win 98 days anymore. But I do prefer ubuntu for new bleeding edge stuff :)
[11:17] <achandra> nice
[11:17] <zF> Do I need ANY drivers at all from the Windows CD?
[11:18] <zF> I'm making a custom .iso using nLite, and am trying to remove as much as possible
[11:18] <meandi> I have just booted from the CD and after a few minutes I rebooted into XP again and everything looks fine. I just want to know if I dare to try the disk tools in ubundu and try to create some filesystems and so on. Later I want to figure out how to set up dual boot of XP and ubundu.
[11:18] <Davo_Dinkum> i dont think intel have true 64bit CPUs, anyway
[11:18] <Frogzoo> zF: put your hands on your head & step back slowly from the Windows CD....
[11:18] <Davo_Dinkum> LOL
[11:18] <CrippsFX> Davo_Dinkum, yes, they do.
[11:18] <zF> Frogzoo: I refuse to use OO :]
[11:18] <achandra> yeah...but you remember the SP1to SP2 debacle...for windows?? you gotta pick and choose...:)
[11:19] <snoops> zF.. I think you need only the most basic device drivers..but you won't be saving yourself much space
[11:19] <T1966> can any one help this NOOB with a sound issue please?
[11:19] <snoops> drivers don't take up too much
[11:19] <Davo_Dinkum> i pick to use ubuntu
[11:19] <Frogzoo> zF: have you tried 2.0.2 ? it's pretty good...
[11:19] <snoops> achandra remember two days ago how you had the kernel update debacle? :)
[11:19] <DanielC> What's the usual Ubuntu runlevel? I ran the 'runlevel' command and it says '2'. Shouldn't that be 5? (GUI)
[11:19] <Sp4rKy> i've a webcam which is listed in http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html , running over windows but doesn't work over Ubuntu :/
[11:19] <salmiak_> T1966, tell us what's wrong
[11:19] <zF> Frogzoo: Nope, I'm sure it still doesn't compare to Word.
[11:19] <Sp4rKy> does anyone could help me ?
[11:19] <achandra> i hear ya..
[11:19] <salmiak_> you lost sound?
[11:20] <meandi> achandra: I have SP2 now and I assume I can keep my system as is and just install ubundu with dual boot, right?
[11:20] <T1966> I installed U and now I have no sound and went to look in the sound box and my sound card is n't listed
[11:21] <achandra> meandi: Id read up on the google how tos to make absolutely sure on the dual boot stuff. its all about the boot loader...and if your unfamiliar with linux..its a pain. Doesnt hurt to do the homework first..IMHO
[11:21] <achandra> meandi: something like " ubuntu dapper dual boot how to"
[11:21] <Davo_Dinkum> later ppl this place is too crowded
[11:22] <farous> which is recommended powersaved or powernowd? especially that my HD get really high temp
[11:22] <Phenom> How can I as a Ubuntu ubuntu user make my /var folder editable so I can make dirs and files?
[11:22] <Phenom> 1 to many ubuntus hehe
[11:22] <Frogzoo> zF: well if you're on dapper, just run it up - for most purposes, it's perfectly adequate
[11:22] <Phenom> Ubuntu++ :P
[11:22] <meandi> achandra: ok thanks. I will boot into ubundu again and try a few things before trying dual boot.
[11:22] <DBO> Phenom, what do you want to make var world writeable?
[11:23] <agabus> will there be an updated ubuntu cd released between now and the next ubuntu? updated in the sense that it has all the latest patches bugfixes etc..?
[11:23] <Frogzoo> meandi: if you're shrinking your current doze partition, please be sure to defrag before running qparted
[11:23] <Phenom> DB0, No I just want myself to be able to edit the contents of /var but I wan't it to be viewable from the internet
[11:24] <protocol2> agabus, nope...you have to do all of the updating yourself
[11:24] <T1966> Any thoughts for the sound problem?
[11:24] <Phenom> I am trying to create folders inside the var/www folder
[11:24] <DBO> Phenom, to edit var use sudo
[11:24] <DBO> Phenom, sudo mkdir /var/www/newdir
[11:25] <WARlrus> I've still not managed to find anything on google to help
[11:25] <Phenom> DBO, Thanks
[11:25] <agabus> protocol2- is there any reason why they don't? there's hundreds of MB of updates already
[11:25] <WARlrus> the only articles I've found were talking about ndiswrapper, what is that and should I use it?
[11:25] <Phenom> DB0, I was hoping there would be an easier way
[11:25] <DBO> Phenom, what is the end goal here?
[11:25] <Phenom> DB0, To turn my PC into a server
[11:26] <T1966> salmiak_:  any t6houghts on my sound problem?
[11:26] <salmiak_> sounds like a driver problem...
[11:26] <DBO> Phenom, a web server?
[11:26] <Phenom> DB0, Exactally
[11:26] <meandi> Frogzoo: not sure what you mean, so if I shrink my C partition in order to free some space and then try to find that unallocated space in ubundu I should first defrag it in ubundu?
[11:26] <T1966> where do I pick them up?  PLs
[11:26] <protocol2> agabus, they just give you the option to get the barebones of the operating system....the updates and additional packages are up to you to install
[11:26] <DBO> Phenom, look up how to use home directories in apache
[11:26] <salmiak_> dunno really :(
[11:26] <achandra> WARlrus: can you do an lspci | grep broadcom
[11:26] <Phenom> DB0, Thanks!
[11:26] <DBO> Phenom, that will make things easier for you instead of using /var/www
[11:27] <Frogzoo> meandi: is your c: drive the entire disk?
[11:27] <WARlrus> you mean run that in terminal?
[11:27] <achandra> yes
[11:27] <meandi> Frogzoo: no it's 24 GB from a 250 GB disk
[11:27] <WARlrus> Erm I ran it but it didn't do anything
[11:27] <WARlrus> no errors, but the disk loaded something then the terminal went to a new command
[11:27] <zawa> good evening,  Has anyone able to detect wireless USB TRENDnet TEW-424UB on a Dell Inspiron 5100?
[11:28] <Phenom> How do I CHMOD a directory from a terminal?
[11:28] <meandi> Frogzoo: I only use 8 GB on C so I have 16 GB spare
[11:28] <Frogzoo> meandi: well what's on the rest of the disk, or is it empty & unpartitioned?
[11:28] <protocol2> and I think there are very good reasons for that
[11:28] <achandra> WARlrus : do an lspci | grep more
[11:28] <zawa> I installed ndiswrapper and did the following:  modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:28] <achandra> look for a broadcom device
[11:28] <agabus> protocol2 - yeah i know. i wonder how much work it would take to roll another release out
[11:28] <zawa> and it froze my machine completely
[11:28] <achandra> it might be a 4300 ...
[11:28] <WARlrus> achandra: same again, it didnt come up with anything
[11:28] <[NP] Tangent> I have a question about SSH
[11:28] <achandra> hmmm
[11:28] <meandi> Frogzoo: the rest is assigned to E: which is encrypted with DriveCrypt, a sector level encryption tool
[11:29] <meandi> Frogzoo: when not running DriveCrypt it looks like E: is empty
[11:29] <Frogzoo> meandi: err yuck
[11:29] <[NP] Tangent> I'm trying to run a bzflag server on another box, but in order to do so, I seem to have to keep a terminal open on my local box. How can I keep the server program running without a terminal open on my local computer?
[11:29] <achandra> WARlrus: it didnt find any other pci devices at all?
[11:29] <WARlrus> Nope
[11:29] <UNH2LY> how does one find the name of a window?
[11:30] <Frogzoo> UNH2LY: xinfo ?
[11:30] <WARlrus> I'm running ubuntu off a CD, would that affect it?
[11:30] <meandi> Frogzoo: problem?
[11:31] <Flannel> [NP] Tangent: sounds like screen will do it.  Well, or &.
[11:31] <PZico> hello, I just used mke2fs -j /dev/hdc5  But in instructions I was told to use "type 83"... what does it mean and sould I reformat?
[11:31] <UNH2LY> Frogzoo, dont see that in apty
[11:31] <UNH2LY> *apt
[11:31] <Frogzoo> meandi: well I don't know what DC does with the rest of the partition table - if I was you, I'd make sure to be fully backed up before messing around
[11:31] <[NP] Tangent> Flannel, being quite a linux newbie, you'll have to dumb that down a bit... sorry :<
[11:31] <achandra> that is good question...does anyone knwo if running lspci when running off cd produces no output?
[11:31] <Flannel> [NP] Tangent: er, actually.  no, that would effectively be the same.  I'm not familiar with bzflag though, sorry.
[11:32] <[NP] Tangent> bzflag's server program doesn't run as a daemon for whatever reason
[11:32] <[NP] Tangent> meaning I have to keep a terminal open, apparently
[11:32] <[NP] Tangent> I was wondering if the terminal would just open up on the remote box and run it instead of on my laptop
[11:33] <meandi> Frogzoo: actually I have a secondary 250 GB disk with backups of C and E. To be completly sure I can unplug the ATA cable to this disk so I am sure it won't  be destroyed by ubuntu
[11:34] <WARlrus> are there any alternatives to try and get my wireless card running?
[11:35] <Frogzoo> meandi: cool - you can shrink c: down to make space for ubuntu (16gig isn't very generous though) - but creating a new partition will change your e: drive to f: - which might not be ok by the crypt
[11:35] <WARlrus> http://www.dsl-warehouse.co.uk/product.asp?pr=WLI-PCI-G54 -> That is my wireless card btw
[11:35] <jneves> crimsun: thanks - gonna check the live image
[11:36] <meandi> Frogzoo: I even have an unused 60 GB disk, I will install that instead and unplug the other two disks. It may be better as a start
[11:36] <blaze^^> Hello, i want to ask you is there any distribution that i can upload to my usb (256MB) and boot from it :) ?
[11:37] <WARlrus> Has anyone else got any ideas on how to get my wireless PCI card (http://www.dsl-warehouse.co.uk/product.asp?pr=WLI-PCI-G54) working on Ubuntu?
[11:37] <achandra> WARlrus: sorry..I was looking and researching...one sec.
[11:37] <WARlrus> Ok, np :)
[11:37] <Dial_tone> I'm about to format a 250gb partition for data - music, video, etc...no nfs. is there somewhere I can read about the pros/cons of each filesystem?
[11:37] <Dial_tone> or should I not sweat it and pick one
[11:37] <yonda> Blaze, Damn Small Linux perhaps? I haven't used it myself though... http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
[11:38] <blaze^^> yonda: i'll check this one :)
[11:38] <Frogzoo> meandi: much better - zero risk & will leave you room for data
[11:38] <meandi> Frogzoo: ok, over and out, I will do some experimenting now. Thanks for helping!
[11:38] <Frogzoo> meandi: yw/gl
[11:38] <KenSentMe> Dial_tone: check wikipedia
[11:40] <KenSentMe> Dial_tone: sorry, check this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LinuxFilesystemsExplained
[11:40] <KenSentMe> It's the Ubuntu wiki
[11:40] <raiffhigor> Good mornig guys..
[11:40] <KenSentMe> morning
[11:40] <Hoxzer> Morning
[11:40] <Dial_tone> thanks
[11:40] <Hoxzer> what is our location?
[11:41] <raiffhigor> how can i solve this?!?! >>> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[11:41] <Frogzoo> can anyone suggest a FOSS network services database? preferably with a wiki style front end? preferably running on mysql?
[11:42] <achandra> WARlrus: The card likely has a broadcom chipset..ie a 4306....which is likely windows native..but the card manufacturer hasnt released a linux driver.
[11:42] <Ng> raiffhigor: you probably need to install libqt3-mt-dev or libqt4-dev (depending on if it can build against Qt4)
[11:42] <F0LL0W3R> heey can i update the ubuntu dapper drake beta to the Release one ? or i hv to download the Release one
[11:42] <Ng> F0LL0W3R: yes you can
[11:42] <F0LL0W3R> how NG ?
[11:42] <achandra> WARlrus: the work around is to check around to see if someone has created or dealt with it or...use NDISWRAPPER
[11:42] <raiffhigor> Ng: probably i'll have them in synaptics?!?!
[11:42] <Ng> raiffhigor: yep
[11:43] <Ng> F0LL0W3R: run Synaptic (System->Administration), hit Reload, then Mark All Upgrades, then Apply
[11:43] <achandra> WARlrus: to do that you will need to extract the .inf file from the executable driver loader for windows.
[11:43] <F0LL0W3R> Ng thx :)
[11:43] <raiffhigor> Ng: an curiosity... where i can find if not in synaptics ... any suggests?!!!?
[11:43] <WARlrus> achandra: I can't find anyone else who has done something similar, so can you talk me through the niswrapper route please?
[11:43] <yonda> Hey guys I've got a wireless network connection here running with Network manager, but it seems to randomly drop out at random times
[11:44] <Ng> raiffhigor: they are both available from synaptic. You might need to enable the universe repository, but they are definitely both there
[11:44] <Ng> !tell raiffhigor about repos
[11:44] <|mp|> WARlrus: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation
[11:44] <achandra> WARlrus: here's the kicker.. Im not sure you can load the driver....when your in CD mode...lets clarify with some help from others first :)
[11:44] <WARlrus> Okay thanks :)
[11:45] <|mp|> WARlrus: you on live-cd? is that what "cd mode" means?
[11:45] <WARlrus> I just want to check it works before partitioning my hard drive, and installing ubuntu on a partition
[11:45] <WARlrus> yes, I am on a live-cd
[11:45] <|mp|> ndis wont work
[11:45] <WARlrus> ah
[11:45] <achandra> Help....Is it possible to load a network card driver using ndiswrapper, load the module in "CD" mode ?? ie dapper has not been installed on the system??
[11:45] <mauran> ANY BODY KNOWS ABOUT SCIM INPUT METHOD, PLEASE COME TO PRIVATE CHAT. I NEED SOME HELP !!!!!!!!
[11:45] <WARlrus> Will i have to partition the hard drive and install the full distro then?
[11:45] <Dial_tone> where is that old metacity option that let you choose where new windows open? upper left corner, tabbed, etc
[11:46] <Hoxzer> :D private chat sounds like some perverted
[11:46] <Dial_tone> everytime I open xchat it starts upper left and I want it lower right
[11:46] <mauran> ohh
[11:46] <rahul84> how do i use torrents in ubuntu?
[11:46] <mauran> m17n is not working on dapper
[11:46] <|mp|> WARlrus - to check ndis, yea, unless he carsd is mentioned on the list: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[11:46] <achandra> WARlrus: I think you have a choice to "dual"and resize the hdd if you have windows...but its the route...that I took
[11:46] <phanter> rahul84: standard there is a program installed that can handle them to download
[11:47] <phanter> rahul84: or what is your specific question?
[11:47] <Dial_tone> azureus is a torrent client
[11:47] <rahul84> i tried Ktorrent but i am not getting my full bandwidth
[11:47] <WARlrus> mp: I get a 404 when trying to load that page
[11:48] <|mp|> WARlrus - ??? hit F5
[11:48] <phanter> rahul84: maybe that is because the upload of your seeders is not big enough. Is not neccesarily because of the program you use
[11:48] <WARlrus> achandra: Is that "dual" option in windows, or do I load the live distro on linux and do it through that
[11:48] <Phenom> Help! my .htaccess isn't working!
[11:48] <achandra> WARlrus: with the Ubuntu CD
[11:48] <WARlrus> mp: still getting it lol
[11:48] <jneves> Phenom: put it in pastebin
[11:48] <yonda> Hey guys I've got a wireless network connection here running with Network manager, but it seems to randomly drop out at random times
[11:49] <achandra> WARlrus: it will use the Ubuntu bootloader and then give you a choice..
[11:49] <WARlrus> achandra: thanks, I will see if I can find another option and use that as a last resort
[11:49] <rahul84> no ...even on http downloads i don't get full bandwidth
[11:49] <Phenom> jneves, i'm not getting an error its just allowing me to view the secured document anyways?
[11:49] <Ng> yonda: does it do it just for a few seconds and then come back?
[11:49] <phanter> yonda: try to disable the eth0 (or other non wireless cards). I had problems with that before (nut not anymmore)
[11:49] <|mp|> WARlrus - if you have two spare partitions, one for root filesystem "/" and one for swap (virtual memory, like pagefile in win) then you can keep your win "system" and the bootloader will offer you both options
[11:50] <achandra> WARlrus: the steps if you want to know are edit the /etc/apt/source.list and include all the repos.. then do an apt-get update
[11:50] <yonda> NG - Yes, and then it will reconnect within about 10 seconds
[11:50] <yonda> Phanter - Ok I'll try that
[11:50] <achandra> that will get you access to ndis and wpasupplicant if you use wpa
[11:50] <jneves> Phenom: 2 options: apache isn't configured to use .htaccess or you have the require/satisfy directives wrong
[11:50] <Phenom> jneves, hmm
[11:50] <achandra> then youll need to use the synaptic package manager to get ndis and wpa
[11:50] <PZico> should this kind of command take minutes or is something wrong? dd if=/mnt/usb/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/hdaX
[11:50] <WARlrus> mp: my harddrive is not partitioned at all at the moment, I have windows on a single partition
[11:50] <Ng> yonda: I see something like that too - from looking at the logs I think it's because it disconnects to quickly scan for better networks, but I'm just guessing
[11:51] <Phenom> jneves, I'm following this tutorial exactally though
[11:51] <|mp|> WARlrus
[11:51] <yonda> I've disabled eth0...ill see how that goes
[11:51] <achandra> WARlrus: the "resize" tool is what that is for...to help with getting ubuntu isntalled
[11:51] <WARlrus> if i run the distro off the CD to install it, will it give me the option to partition the drive? then will that give me the option to dual boot?
[11:51] <|mp|> ok - you can re-partition/resize either with Partition Magic or LInux
[11:51] <jneves> Phenom: that's why I said to put the result on the pastebin - it's easier for me to debug it and then explain you what's wrong...
[11:51] <achandra> |mp|: correct me if im wrong on that ..
[11:51] <TobiasFar> i installed ubuntu and updated to xubuntu via downloading the xubuntu packages..i've changed the wallpaper under xubuntu(Xfce) and when i restart the computer and go back to xubuntu it seems that it uses the ubuntu(gnome) wallpaper
[11:51] <jneves> Phenom: not all tutorials are current for apache 2
[11:52] <|mp|> achandra / WARlrus - i am not sure, - is it a new tool? I have never seen it..
[11:52] <Phenom> jneves, but what am I suppose to paste? i'll send you the part im working on maybe that will help
[11:52] <achandra> WARlrus: its called resize with a slider bar..
[11:53] <WARlrus> All I want is a dual booted system with the option to run either linux or windows on startup. If i install linux will that give me the option of partitioning?
[11:53] <achandra> WARlrus: and you can resize what you will use for windows and the rest for linux...at least that is my impression of how it works..
[11:53] <Phenom> jneves, http://pastebin.com/718030
[11:53] <KenSentMe> WARlrus: yes, the installer gives you the option to manually create partitions and it automaticly detects of you have windows or other os installed and puts in the bootloader
[11:53] <achandra> is that correct y'all?
[11:53] <achandra> yep thought so...
[11:53] <WARlrus> and also, will I be able to remove the partition if I decide to remove 1 of the OS's? IE: Merge the drive back togther?
[11:53] <|mp|> achandra / WARlrus - sounds good, why not try it? BUT remember, resizing is tricky and could go wrong, so back up your data
[11:54] <achandra> agreed
[11:54] <Phenom> jneves, Im using /var/www/secure for the folder I am trying to password protect
[11:54] <|mp|> WARlrus, in theory all is possible
[11:54] <WARlrus> I don't keep much important stuff on that computer anyway, but thanks :) I will back it up.
[11:54] <Hoxzer> Everything is possible possibilities are limited
[11:54] <achandra> WARlrus: the removal is trickier...beacuse the bootloader is using that "info" to send you to one place or another..
[11:55] <|mp|> WARlrus, i dud it in this laptop with the KNoppix tool: Parted, l rather QtParted, and it worked fine
[11:56] <achandra> WARlrus: the boot loader likely will stay...if you blow away linux partition, then using Manage in windows...then the parition tool, windows will see the seperate partition and ask if you wnat to format with ntfs...so and so forth...but the bootloader for linux loads likely into the Master Boot Record..
[11:56] <|mp|> WARlrus - if you dont have much important stuff, then why keep windows at all?
[11:56] <achandra> Windows dont know about linux....Linux knows about the evil empire :) ...lol
[11:57] <WARlrusMAHN> Sorry about that, IRC disconnected me
[11:57] <|mp|> WARlrus - if you dont have much important stuff, then why keep windows at all?
[11:57] <Phenom> jneves, did you get the pastebin URL?
[11:57] <WARlrusMAHN> In case there are programs/games I wish to run that won't run on Linux
[11:57] <achandra> |mp|: the question was just begging to be asked wasnt it ??? :)
[11:57] <usuario> hola
[11:57] <|mp|> yup
[11:57] <achandra> lol
[11:57] <jneves> Phenom: yes, emergency at work - give me a sec
[11:58] <WARlrusMAHN> Right, I will partition the hard drive and install Linux then :) Thanks for all the help guys
[11:58] <Phenom> jneves, alright
[11:58] <ipnet> hi any one can help me..how to print from windows xp host..for network shared printer
[11:58] <WARlrusMAHN> You will probably be hearing from me later when I mess it up again ;)
[11:58] <WARlrusMAHN> Thanks :)
[11:58] <kinema> if durring a server install i chose to configure my network connection later what is the easiest way to configure it after the install has completed?
[11:59] <achandra> WARlrusMAHN: np... when you get that far...the ndis thing is the way...google " ubuntu dapper ndiswrapper how to"
[11:59] <achandra> there  is an excellent walk through..
[11:59] <jneves> Phenom: the tutorial is wrong
[11:59] <jneves> Phenom: eliminate the Files part
[11:59] <jneves> Phenom: and put
[11:59] <jneves> Phenom: Require valid-user
[12:00] <phanter> hello, what is concidered to be the better virusscanner in the repositories?
[12:00] <jneves> Phenom: Satisfy any
[12:00] <jneves> Phenom: in the end
[12:00] <Frogzoo> kinema: google for /etc/network/interfaces & copy, & pppoesetup if you use pppoe
[12:00] <achandra> kinema: we kinda were having this discussion earlier...but assuming things were found okay with the driver and all in system, administration, then networking...there is nice networktool.
[12:00] <achandra> :)
[12:01] <GNAM> i cannot wait for edgy alpha 1
[12:02] <achandra> darn broadcom drivers have caused more people headaches here than any other driver...yet manufacturers insist on using them in laptops...with minimal linux support...acck
[12:02] <CrippsFX> virus scanner? we need virus scanners for linux?
[12:02] <kinema> achandra: isn't networktool a gui program?  this is a server install
[12:02] <achandra> CrippsFX: clamav??
[12:02] <Akuma_> is there a website somewhere with plenty of linux drivers? i've never had to look for drivers before and i'm having a hard time
[12:02] <phanter> well.... eeeuhh. let me think... I need a virusscanner
[12:02] <GNAM> virus scanners are not useful also in windows
[12:03] <CrippsFX> achandra, someone was asking about one, but I've never used one.
[12:03] <phanter> clamav says it is mainly focused on mail servers
[12:04] <ipnet> hi anyone can help me..how to print from windows xp host..for network shared printer
[12:05] <achandra> CrippsFX: I did a google search for ubuntu dapper clamav and there is a cool wiki site..with a walk through of what you are asking for..
[12:05] <CrippsFX> achandra, i'm not looking for one. phanter is.
[12:05] <achandra> with regards to the by hand config..
[12:05] <|mp|> ipnet - have you googled it? http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=share+printer+windows+linux
[12:05] <achandra> ahh...okay
[12:06] <phanter> achandra: i was looking for it, can you pass me the link?
[12:06] <achandra> phanter: indeed...one sec
[12:07] <ipnet> ok i try it
[12:07] <Ti_Uhl> hello
[12:08] <achandra> phanter: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[12:08] <Ti_Uhl> i've installed ubuntu dapper drake, but there seems to be something wrong with the icons, in every menu i get the text keyboard label and then the modifier key for the shortcut. Is there any way to solve this ?
[12:09] <chupacabras> Hi! I put the computer to hybernate, the nonitor goes blank, but the cpu is still on. When I try to use the computer again it doesn't respond. I push any key or I do click with the mouse, but it doesn't awake. Is there something that I'm doing wrong?
[12:10] <rixxon> i think you should push the power button, works for me anyway
[12:10] <phanter> thanks
[12:10] <rixxon> ( chupacabras )
[12:10] <chupacabras> rixrixxon I did that already
[12:11] <Phenom> jneves, I'm still getting the same results?
[12:11] <achandra> phanter: I believe there are two choices in that guide..
[12:11] <rixxon> chupacabras: then sorry, no idea :(
[12:11] <chupacabras> The cpu does not hybernate, just the monitor.
[12:11] <phanter> achandra: it only talks about clamav i think
[12:12] <phanter> but no problem, I just take that one
[12:12] <chupacabras> that's OK
[12:12] <rixxon> chupacabras: should the cpu hybernate? :P (im no expert, but i think it should right?)
[12:12] <achandra> phanter: nope your right...one
[12:12] <phanter> rixxon: yes it should
[12:12] <chupacabras> rixxon, yes it should.
[12:13] <achandra> phanter:  but it is a pretty good compilation of a snot load how tos and tricks :)
[12:13] <Healot> if the CPU hibernate, the PC is technically shutdown... :)
[12:13] <rixxon> everything kinda should, right?
[12:13] <phanter> achandra: true, i know about most of them already, but still thanks
[12:14] <achandra> forgot who asked.. but youd have to edit /etc/network/interfaces file to get a proper static entry for networking.. by hand
[12:14] <achandra> phanter: lol...cool
[12:15] <rixxon> i read vista doesn't have any easily accessed way to shut down, the "shut down" is infact hibernate :S
[12:15] <achandra> phanter: now if you can get a windows client with clam talking to the linux server...with calmav server running on it...YOU DA MAN...:)
[12:15] <chupacabras> ah
[12:15] <phanter> achandra: well... hahaha... that is not what I need / want to know ;)
[12:16] <achandra> ;)
[12:16] <chupacabras> Well, I'll come back tomorrow guys, bye.
[12:16] <achandra> anybody experience with ethernet bonding on ubuntu??? specifically how to config the files manually??
[12:18] <scacco[] > j #xchat
[12:18] <scacco[] > oops
[12:18] <scacco[] > sorry
[12:18] <achandra> alright..good night to alll...sleep calls...im a bloody insomniac.. work is going to kick my ass tommorow :)
[12:20] <phanter> is there a tool that probes for your hardware and can build a .config file upon that info (so that I do not have to walk through all the options)?
[12:20] <phanter> (for compiling a new kernel)
[12:21] <Arafangi1n> phanter: Just compile everything as modules.
[12:21] <Arafangi1n> phanter: Or just use the generic kernel.
[12:21] <phanter> Arafangi1n: i already have done that, but was just curious if such a thing was ever made...
[12:22] <void^> take the config of a running kernel and just modify it
[12:23] <mp3guy> is there a way I can make quake3 a window and move my mouse out of it/alt-tab out of it? At the moment when I window it I can't alttab or move the mouse out
[12:23] <Arafangi1n> void^: Assuming the running kernel has that option.
[12:23] <scheuri> hi all
[12:23] <cppnewbie> hey all, im having a slight problem with my 5 button mouse including wheel (2 normal ones, wheel in the middle and 2 on the side). the side buttons dun work as they should, or at least as they usually worked in windows. what can i do about this one, any way to configure what each button does?
[12:24] <void^> Arafangi1n: the config.gz option that's not enabled in ubuntu kernels for some reason? but there's /boot/config-* instead.
[12:24] <scheuri> I try to install VMware Server on Ubuntu Server, but it lacks certain libraries...how do I find out which library is provided by which package? Thanks a lot for help
[12:24] <Arafangi1n> scheuri: apt-file
[12:24] <scheuri> Arafangi1n: thanks...I trying that just now
[12:25] <scheuri> Arafangi1n: uhmm...apt-file is not a command, I guess I need to install another package before using that?
[12:26] <rapha> Hi all!
[12:26] <gharz> guys.... i just bought a new hard drive for my laptop... my question is how can i transfer my Ubuntu to the new laptop without reinstalling the system... is this possible?
[12:26] <Arafangi1n> scheuri: Actually, apt-file is what I use on my debian servers.  Ubuntu probably has it too, in either case, you have to install it.
[12:26] <rapha> Is it possible to listen to an ".m4a" file under Dapper? When I run Totem from a terminal it says "don't know how to handle audio/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)4"
[12:26] <scheuri> Arafangi1n: I am on it...thanks...:)
[12:29] <scheuri> Arafangi1n: THOUSAND thanks...it worked perfectly fine....
[12:29] <dli> gharz, you may " cp -a " your installation, but leave out /dev /sys /proc
[12:30] <rapha> dli: shouldn't he at least mkdir them after cp'ing the system?
[12:31] <cppnewbie> hey all, im having a slight problem with my 5 button mouse including wheel (2 normal ones, wheel in the middle and 2 on the side). the side buttons dun work as they should, or at least as they usually worked in windows. what can i do about this one, any way to configure what each button does?
[12:32] <bimberi> cppnewbie: This page might help you - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[12:33] <zobi8225> i've just instaled ubuntu on my mac and all work very well
[12:33] <zobi8225> thx a lot
[12:33] <BCK> hey, how do i get a system tray in ubuntu ?
[12:33] <BCK> konversation creates an icon in a new window kinda of thing
[12:33] <BCK> same for kopete
[12:34] <cppnewbie> oi, cor bimberi, thx, will do
[12:34] <bimberi> cppnewbie: yw :)
[12:34] <Sonderblade> upgrading from breezy to dapper now should be really painless right? apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ??
[12:35] <_stev_> I have installed wine, but I cannot open the file wi
[12:35] <mitja> Where can I change selection to XFree86 instead of Xorg?
[12:35] <scheuri> Sonderblade: use aptitude instead of apt-get
[12:35] <Stroganoff> BCK the systray is called "notification area" in gnome. u should check the preferences of Konversation and Kopete
[12:36] <cppnewbie> anyone knows if ubuntu will get this like, problem, fixed, where with 64bit ubuntu u dont have 32bit support? in any future update maybe?
[12:36] <_stev_> with wine, I cannot open :wine /media/cdrom/start.exe
[12:36] <Sonderblade> scheuri: why?
[12:36] <scheuri> Sonderblade: aptitude handles dependencies better...so upgrading, removing and installing is a "better"
[12:37] <scheuri> Sonderblade: is a bit "better"...this is correct...;)
[12:37] <Arafangi1n> scheuri: Depends.  I use apt-get and dpkg.
[12:37] <Arafangi1n> scheuri: Some things just need dpkg.
[12:37] <Sonderblade> scheuri: i thought aptitute was just a frontend
[12:37] <mindspit> MySQL header files missing what can i do?
[12:38] <scheuri> Arafangi1n: well, apt-get does not handle dependencies that well as aptitude is able to...when removing stuff or upgrading it, aptitude takes better care of deps
[12:38] <_stev_> somebody ever used wine?
[12:38] <scheuri> Sonderblade: well, apt-get is not just a front-end...:)...aptitude is neither...it is a frontend, but also has some features
[12:39] <Stroganoff> yes, _stev_
[12:39] <Lynoure> _stev_: Yes, but not all that successfully, always
[12:39] <Arafangi1n> scheuri: apt-get is more reserved, afaik.
[12:39] <Sonderblade> scheuri: and synaptic?
[12:40] <scheuri> Sonderblade: synaptic is a graphical frontend...probably for apt-get...but I am not sure...there should be info on their homepage
[12:40] <scheuri> Arafangi1n: that is possible...
[12:40] <_stev_> well Stroganoff Lynoure : I want to run a cd with start.exe and typed in wine /media/cdrom/start.exe..
[12:41] <rapha> Please, help! Trying to listen to an .m4a file; following the instructions under RestrictedFormats has only helped with the video part, still no sound tho...
[12:41] <cppnewbie> all these things with the mice seem confusing, im having a bit of trouble understanding what i should do.......
[12:42] <Arafangi1n> cppnewbie: Explaining the problem is half the solution.
[12:42] <blackline> in xchat i used to have a meny to the right with the online users in each channe. this is gone, how do i get that back?
[12:42] <cppnewbie> Arafangi1n, explained some lines above, i got a mouse with 5 buttons, 2 normal, the wheel, and 2 on the side, and these 2 on the side dun do what they should
[12:43] <cppnewbie> and someone gave me a link saying what to do, but it all seems confusing :\
[12:43] <Arafangi1n> cppnewbie: I can't find the question.
[12:44] <johnZay_> where is the information for panels stored? (like what's in the panel)
[12:44] <cppnewbie> i just mentioned the problem again though
[12:44] <_stev_> Stroganoff: Lynoure: I"ve got the following message :Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system32" is not accessible
[12:44] <cppnewbie> the question in itself, is what should i do for a mouse with more buttons than usual that dont do what they usually do
[12:45] <Stroganoff> johnZay, gconf-editor -> apps -> panel -> applets
[12:45] <johnZay_> thanbks
[12:47] <cappiz> is it possible to resize a filesystem ?
[12:47] <cappiz> wich is the system disk?
[12:48] <Kaja> Yes.
[12:49] <cappiz> Kaja how :> ?
[12:49] <Kaja> Use some livecd that comes with a suitable program... such as gparted.
[12:50] <cappiz> ah
[12:50] <cappiz> cant
[12:50] <cappiz> its not located at my place
[12:50] <cappiz> :>
[12:51] <CrippsFX> in the config file, chainloader+1 is used when the partition to be booted from already has its own bootloader, right?
[12:51] <xophEr> Does anyone have a clue how to get the DVI output working on my gfxcard? (NVIDIA)
[12:52] <Stroganoff> _stev_, are u there?
[12:52] <cyfr> Hello.. if I have a webserver on my LAN, and im using dyndns, how do I make it so that I can type in the dyndns URL and get my webpage? Rather than typing in the internal IP?
[12:52] <_stev_> Stroganoff: yes
[12:53] <Stroganoff> _stev_, run winecfg, go to 'drives', 'advanced', 'add', 'type', 'path' ..
[12:53] <Arafangi1n> cyfr: It's called a router.
[12:53] <Arafangi1n> cyfr: But many adsl modems have _crap_ routers, so if you want that, you either have to hardcode it into your computer (/etc/resolv.conf, I believe), or use an internal DNS.
[12:54] <Stroganoff> then -- wine "D:\start.exe" -- or whatever
[12:54] <DarkMageZ> whats the the traceroute command line tool called? tried tracert & traceroute...
[12:54] <cyfr> Thankyou Arafangi1n
[12:54] <CrippsFX> DarkMageZ, do you even have it installed?
[12:55] <DarkMageZ> CrippsFX, ooo, good point, might not be installed by default
[12:55] <CrippsFX> DarkMageZ, I don't think it is ;)
[12:56] <DarkMageZ> CrippsFX, lol, damn, no traceroute tool by default
[12:57] <cyfr> Arafangi1n: is there some sort of name for what im trying to do in resolv.conf? So that I can research the topic further?
[12:58] <CrippsFX> DarkMageZ, you could install: lft , mtr, netwox, tcptraceroute, traceproto, or xt
[12:58] <CrippsFX> :)
[12:58] <DarkMageZ> CrippsFX, ya, already running traceroute, but wow, that's odd, having ping, but no traceroute :S
[12:58] <CrippsFX> indeed!
[12:59] <ketilkn> Anyone know of a good howto on moving /boot from seperate partition to / partition. Due to Ubuntu frequently adding new kernels my /boot goes full all the time.
[12:59] <Arafangi1n> cyfr: Ah, it's /etc/hosts
[12:59] <_stev_> Stroganoff: well i've added path /media/cdrom and type cdrom...but the program doesn't start with wine /media/cdrom/start.exe
[01:00] <CrippsFX> ketilkn, just mount /boot under a different directory, copy everything from it to the empty /boot , unmount the old /boot dir, and remove the line with "/boot" from your /etc/fstab
[01:00] <Stroganoff> _stev_, try -- wine "D:\start.exe" -- or whatever
[01:01] <ketilkn> CrippsFX, I expect I would have to edit menu.lst as well ?
[01:01] <cyfr> Brilliant Arafangi1n works :) ty!
[01:01] <ketilkn> CrippsFX, No pitfalls there?
[01:02] <CrippsFX> ketilkn, yeah. you'd have to change (hd0,0) (assuming /boot is /dev/hda1) to (hd0,1) (assuming root is on /dev/hda2)
[01:03] <ketilkn> CrippsFX, Thank you. I think I will just have a go at this. Wish me luck :)
[01:03] <CrippsFX> ketilkn, wait a second.
[01:04] <alth> Hey guys, what's the easiest and quickest tool to convert MP3 to WAV? I want to burn an audio CD ^^
[01:04] <CrippsFX> ketilkn, this is the section for my ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/718107   ... my root fs is on /dev/hda1
[01:04] <CrippsFX> alth, gnomebaker or k3b
[01:04] <_stev_> Stroganoff: I can run a seperate exe file from the cd but not with start.exe..
[01:05] <Stroganoff> try crossover-office ;)
[01:05] <ketilkn> CrippsFX, I would probably need to reinstall grub on MBR right? One would guess Grub need to know where to find its configuration ?
[01:06] <alth> CrippsFX: K3B won't convert my files, it says 'unsupported file type'.
[01:06] <Chris_C> My automatic weekly security update has run (breezy/5.10), and for the 4 packages that it wants to update, instead of describing the changes it says "The list of changes is not available yet. Please try again later."  It's been like that for two days now.  Anyone know of any server / repository troubles?
[01:06] <ketilkn> Or I could of course just keep it one the old partition and make a symlink in the new /boot
[01:06] <CrippsFX> ketilkn, yes, you would need to reinstall grub on your MBR, but it will by default look in /boot/grub/ for menu.lst
[01:06] <CrippsFX> alth, you have to download the k3b-mp3 plugin
[01:07] <alth> Ahh.
[01:07] <alth> Is that in the repositories?
[01:07] <CrippsFX> ketilkn, you *could* ... but you would still have the space restrictions.
[01:07] <CrippsFX> alth, should be in universe.
[01:08] <ketilkn> GRUB has no problems reading ext3 ?
[01:08] <alth> Do you know the filename, CrippsFX?
[01:08] <CrippsFX> ketilkn, nope.
[01:08] <CrippsFX> alth, try an "apt-cache search"
[01:08] <CrippsFX> ketilkn, my /boot is on my root fs, and I use ext3 ;)
[01:09] <CrippsFX> ketilkn, it works without any tweaking of any kind.
[01:09] <ketilkn> Right. Thanks. I keep making seperate /boot partitions out of old habit. I think I will stop doing that now.
[01:10] <ketilkn> Reboot time
[01:11] <mcbtr> can i ask a question
[01:12] <spikeb> course you can mcbtr
[01:12] <spikeb> mcbtr: that's what we're here for
[01:12] <mcbtr> i am new at ubuntu but i can not make a sign
[01:12] <Adium> you me login?
[01:13] <mcbtr> there is a sign like a
[01:13] <spikeb> hmm, define sign
[01:13] <mcbtr> you know which is between user name and e-mail address
[01:14] <Adium> @
[01:14] <spikeb> oh
[01:14] <spikeb> an at sign
[01:14] <mcbtr> but at windows ctrl+alt+q makes this sign but at ubuntu i can not make it
[01:14] <mcbtr> how could i make
[01:14] <spikeb> mcbtr: not sure how to fix it for real, but you can copy and paste one off irc into a text file, then use that whenever you needed one
[01:15] <mcbtr> thanks
[01:17] <spikeb> that must have been good enough for that person :)
[01:17] <traveller> isn't the @ symbol done by  pressing shift+2? am i missing something here?
[01:17] <dnel> mcbtr: Your keymap is probably set wrong, it will be there but likely not with the corresponding key on your keyboard
[01:17] <pianoboy3333> Where can I get the metacity theme named 'gentle'? It used to be on gnome-look, but I can't find it
[01:17] <spikeb> hmm
[01:17] <spikeb> google perhapst?
[01:17] <dnel> traveller: that will work on a US keymap yes
[01:18] <traveller> hm....different keymaps i see
[01:18] <Adium> traveller, not if its a UK keyboard you don't
[01:18] <Chris_C> traveller has never travelled to the UK :)
[01:18] <traveller> Chris_C: apparently so :/
[01:19] <Adium> lol
[01:19] <pianoboy3333> spikeb: I have, but I haven't found it :( that was my favorite theme
[01:19] <Chris_C> hey since it's quiet here let me re-ask my question
[01:19] <traveller> i can only get US keyboards here
[01:19] <Chris_C> My automatic weekly security update has run (breezy/5.10), and for the 4 packages that it wants to update, instead of describing the changes it says "The list of changes is not available yet. Please try again later."  It's been like that for two days now.  Anyone know of any server / repository troubles?
[01:19] <spikeb> i wonder if they just didnt update the changelog, Chris_C
[01:21] <schalken> !multimedia keys
[01:21] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, schalken
[01:22] <gyro54> what would you do with this file (print-drivers-linux-glibc2-x86.deb)?
[01:22] <nosklo> gyro54, delete?
[01:22] <Adium> install it?
[01:22] <nosklo> gyro54, burn it to a cd-rom?
[01:23] <Adium> email it?
[01:23] <gyro54> how do I install or do I just run it?
[01:23] <Adium> lol
[01:23] <nosklo> gyro54, send it over the net to a friend in australia?
[01:23] <KenSentMe> gyro54: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[01:23] <nosklo> gyro54, sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[01:23] <Adium> sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:23] <KenSentMe> lol
[01:23] <gyro54> Thanks - What service....
[01:23] <Adium> lol
[01:24] <Ng> or double click on it with the file manager and gdebi will offer to install it for you (assuming you are on dapper)
[01:24] <spikeb> haha
[01:24] <spikeb> you can double click on it to install it.
[01:24] <spikeb> yes ng
[01:24] <BCK> gah
[01:24] <spikeb> sometimes i wish more people KNEW that.
[01:24] <gyro54> things are getting so easy
[01:24] <Ng> indeed, especially since it's more useful for randomly downloaded .deb's than dpkg -i
[01:24] <nosklo> spikeb, we are used to type :)
[01:24] <BCK> what should i do ?
[01:25] <nosklo> BCK, try plugging a cable between your capture card and your sound card
[01:25] <spikeb> nosklo: i know, but we ought to start getting used to taking advantage of the graphical tools offered, so that newbies can as well
[01:25] <BCK> nosklo: i have one :P
[01:25] <BCK> worked fine under suse + kaffeine
[01:25] <nosklo> BCK, turn up your sound cards volume using gnome volume manager
[01:26] <wildman_> hello *
[01:26] <BCK> have done
[01:26] <nosklo> BCK, double click volume in panel, near the clock, and turn up ALL sliders
[01:26] <nosklo> BCK, including the one that says "Line In" or something
[01:26] <BCK> kk
[01:27] <BCK> nope :(
[01:27] <_stev_> join /xubuntu
[01:27] <nosklo> _stev_, /join #xubuntu
[01:27] <_stev_> nosklo: thanks :-)
[01:28] <BCK> it shouldnt be different
[01:28] <nosklo> BCK, true
[01:28] <nosklo> BCK, specially since your sound card that is doing the work, not the capture card
[01:28] <nosklo> BCK, other sound plays ok?
[01:28] <BCK> yes
[01:29] <BCK> other sound is fine
[01:29] <spikeb> just another example of what makes distros different - different bugs.
[01:29] <BCK> spikeb: tis true
[01:29] <nosklo> BCK, do you have another external source of sound to plug into the same plug on your sound card that your capture card is plugged in, just to test it?
[01:29] <nosklo> BCK, like, an MP3 player or something
[01:29] <Adium> spikeb, this is true that why ive started to use www.desktopbsd.net
[01:29] <BCK> yes
[01:29] <killaz> hi is the vmware player enough to use winz applications once in teh while?
[01:30] <BCK> the cable is fine
[01:30] <froggi_> does anyone know if it is possible to make two partitions appear as one ?
[01:30] <_stev_> I want to share a folder and when I want to connect with my windows pc I have to give a password and name, why is that?
[01:30] <spikeb> Adium: ahh, it's great - there's already two bsd distros that do the same damn thing - desktopbsd and pcbsd
[01:30] <nosklo> ok, so you are sure the capture card is not sending sound right?
[01:30] <Adium> yep
[01:30] <BCK> well i guess
[01:30] <killaz> froggi_: what do you mean with appear as one?
[01:30] <BCK> i think so
[01:30] <Adium> though im not a fan od PCBSD
[01:30] <Adium> of*
[01:30] <BCK> sound playing from mp3 player nosklo
[01:30] <nosklo> BCK, well if you plug another stuff instead of your capture card on the cable, you hear sound
[01:31] <BCK> yes
[01:31] <BCK> i do
[01:31] <spikeb> Adium: i'm just grumpy because they both use KDE
[01:31] <BCK> listening now
[01:31] <spikeb> Adium: i wish one used gnome instead :)
[01:31] <nosklo> BCK, ok, then you must turn on the volume on the capture card somehow
[01:31] <Adium> lol @ spikeb
[01:31] <nosklo> BCK, try switching channel :P
[01:31] <BCK> did
[01:31] <BCK> no difference
[01:31] <BCK> even for radio channels no sound
[01:31] <Adium> I must admit that took some getting use to think ill end up using gnome
[01:31] <gyro54> now how do I run this file (/usr/local/lexmark/setup.lexmark) ?
[01:31] <froggi_> killaz, I have two partitions, first is standard Ubuntu plus swap, second used to be a windows partion, but have reformatted it as EXT3
[01:32] <froggi_> killaz, is it possible for the Ubuntu partion to seemlessly span across to the other partion
[01:33] <bunny> Hello, if I copy debs I find in one machince in /var/cache/spt/archives/ to same dir in another a  networked machince (via cdrom) which only has dial up access will packaage manager pick them up that they are there when go to check for updates (note I can update package list on dial up, but deb packages inc new pcc dapper kernel to get G3 iMac booting too much for dial up)
[01:33] <nosklo> BCK, on the volume manager (double click volume), under file -> change device, does your capture card shows up there?
[01:33] <spikeb> bunny: it should
[01:33] <Timmy_> i was wondering how i could give the cpu more attention to things that are happening in realtime versus something in the background
[01:33] <spikeb> Timmy_: using the nice command
[01:33] <Timmy_> aight?
[01:33] <killaz> froggi_: I guess so, you should only mount it to for example /_some_name and it's part of your filesystem
[01:33] <BCK> nosklo: the slider was at the bottom still no change :(
[01:34] <spikeb> Timmy_: i don't really know much about it, try reading the manual page for it :(
[01:34] <Timmy_> kk
[01:34] <spikeb> i HATE saying that
[01:34] <bunny> thanks spikeb that means I can get G3 iMac running dapper properly at local community centre via cdrom
[01:34] <MetaMorfoziS> is it true the LG dvd writers are bad?
[01:34] <spikeb> bunny: awesome :)
[01:34] <gyro54> any idea how to run this file (/usr/local/lexmark/setup.lexmark) ?
[01:34] <spikeb> bunny: i have a ppc mac mini running dapper
[01:34] <froggi_> killaz, I have mounted it and I can use it as part of my file system, but Ubuntu won't automatically use it if it starts to run out of space on the first partion ?
[01:34] <BCK> grr
[01:34] <BCK> this is a pain
[01:35] <Timmy_> the nice command blows
[01:35] <Timmy_> lol
[01:35] <spikeb> oh that's great
[01:35] <spikeb> the documentation sucks
[01:35] <spikeb> heh
[01:35] <killaz> froggi_: as what have you mount it now...?
[01:35] <Ng> renice to change priority of a running program
[01:36] <froggi_> killaz, home-extra
[01:36] <MetaMorfoziS> gyro54: sh <file>
[01:36] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[01:37] <gyro54> thanks
[01:38] <killaz> froggi_: /home-extra, so if your write something to /home-write you are using that partition..... I dont think that if the first partition runs out of space taht it will start using the second one which is /home/first
[01:38] <kbrooks> can you install packages with a few clicks in dapper?
[01:39] <boricua> good morning needs some help i just install the server cd but i don't have any X  does the server cd come with any WM?
[01:39] <Stroganoff> could u pls point me to a graphical cvs-browser/downloader?
[01:39] <froggi_> killaz, that is what I thought.. but I was hoping there was some way to give Linux more space like adding another drive, and it would just include it
[01:40] <jrib> kbrooks: if you mean repos, synaptic and the gnome-add apps thing is there.  If you mean .deb's there is gdebi now
[01:40] <KenSentMe> boricua: the server install is standard only in command line
[01:40] <kbrooks> jrattner1: package = file, so yes, i meant ".debs"
[01:40] <KenSentMe> boricua: if you want to install a desktop i think you can use sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[01:40] <Lynoure> froggi_: there are multiple ways. Easiest probably is to make the new disk your /home
[01:40] <boricua> KenSentMe,k
[01:40] <spikeb> yes you can ken
[01:41] <froggi_> Lynoure, so if I was to make the new disk or partiotion /home , how ?
[01:41] <kbrooks> jrib: is gdebi bundled wth ubuntu?
[01:41] <boricua> KenSentMe:how can i ocnfigure my printer from command line?
[01:41] <KenSentMe> boricua: or try apt-get install (k)ubuntu-desktop
[01:41] <spikeb> kbrooks: yup
[01:41] <jrib> !info gdebi
[01:41] <ubotu> gdebi: (Simple tool to install deb files), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.1.4ubuntu13 (dapper), Packaged size: 31 kB, Installed size: 684 kB
[01:41] <KenSentMe> !tell boricua about cups
[01:42] <BlueEagle> froggi_: Edit your /etc/fstab file to make /home mount at boot. You might want to mount it somwhere else first so you can transfer the files that are already in your /home directory tho.
[01:42] <KenSentMe|afk> got to go now
[01:42] <jrib> kbrooks: it's on the cd but it doesn't get installed by default it seems
[01:43] <Lynoure> froggi_: first make a file system into it, then copy your home stuff into it, then remove old home and mount the new one to it's place (don't forget to add to fstab)
[01:43] <scheuri> hi all
[01:43] <CrippsFX> how can I create a grub boot floppy that will boot a usb drive?
[01:43] <killaz> froggi_: no if you partition it is the same as in win box the system cant decide by its own that its time to start using space of the other partition. What you can do is when you run out of space, copy for example /var to partition 2 and mount it as /var
[01:43] <scheuri> question: I installed VMware server on Ubuntu Server 6.06 LTS and tried to install MUI...but it says that there is no vmware server installed (but it clearly is actually...and running)...anyone an idea why that is?
[01:43] <BlueEagle> froggi_: Do you need step-by-step instructions?
[01:43] <Lynoure> BlueEagle said it right, yes. :)
[01:44] <brimble> Does anyone know where I can download a copy of the official ubuntu book ?
[01:44] <pl_ice> hey
[01:44] <froggi_> BlueEagle, most likely as I only know enough to get in trouble, but let me edit my fstab first to get my head aorund what you suggest
[01:45] <sikor_sxe> did anyone else experience a regression with the latest kerlen update for dapper? suspend to ram and disk won't work anymore since
[01:45] <spikeb> no, but the breezy kernel regressed
[01:46] <redblades> How do I uninstall something I installed with dpkg?
[01:46] <BlueEagle> froggi_: ok, the entry you want is something like: /dev/sda12      /home           ext3    defaults        0       2
[01:46] <boricua> tell KenSentMe about http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p3
[01:46] <aceri> redblades > try dpkg -r nameofprogram
[01:46] <boricua> !tell KenSentMe about http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p3
[01:46] <BlueEagle> froggi_: where sda12 would be the partition of choice and ext3 would be the filesystem on your partition.
[01:46] <jrib> redblades: dpkg -r something
[01:47] <redblades> okay
[01:47] <froggi_> BlueEagle. can I pastebin my fstab ?
[01:47] <killaz> my installation of vmware-player using synaptic gives me errors.... anyone encounter these errors too?
[01:48] <killaz> error is : E: vmware-player: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[01:50] <brimble> Does anyone know where I can download a copy of the official ubuntu book ?
[01:50] <LinuxMafia> hey
[01:50] <BlueEagle> froggi_: Yes ofcourse you can. I might even take a look at it. :)
[01:50] <LinuxMafia> when i install ubuntu which user i have to add ? root?
[01:50] <BlueEagle> brimble: amazon.com?
[01:51] <brimble> Blue: Hmmm yeah, I live in Australia....will take too long to get it :(
[01:51] <froggi_> BlueEagle, what is the standard pastebin used aorund here ?
[01:52] <Kaja> Probably the one in topic =/
[01:52] <boricua> KenSentMe|afk: i see the concept thanks for the tips i just ran into this http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p3  ii guess the base install requieres more input then the desktop option
[01:52] <protocol2> !vmware
[01:52] <ubotu> I heard vmware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[01:52] <LinuxMafia> brimble, yu must be proud
[01:52] <pl_ice> guys, what's a program that can connect to streamed ineternet radio??
[01:52] <finkployd> any estimate when kernel 2.6.17 may appear in Drake's repositories?
[01:52] <froggi_> !pastebin
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[01:52] <localvar> what is the difference of all the CD options one can Order at shipit ?
[01:52] <brimble> Linux...Why is that ? Are you being sarcastic
[01:52] <Ng> finkployd: it's highly unlikely that it will
[01:53] <LinuxMafia> protocol2, i am installing ubuntu on vmware
[01:53] <finkployd> Ng: oh? why is that?
[01:53] <Ng> finkployd: generally ubuntu doesn't push new versions of things into a release once its out
[01:53] <protocol2> cool....your running XP?
[01:53] !lilo:*! Earlier this morning, a small regional server split; affected users, about 182.
[01:53] <LinuxMafia> protocol2, gentoo
[01:54] <protocol2> ahh
[01:54] !lilo:*! We're looking into the problem. Thanks.
[01:54] <BlueEagle> froggi_: ubuntu.pastebin.com or !pastebin
[01:54] <BlueEagle> !pastebin
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[01:54] <Mutiny|Sakara> Hi all
[01:54] <Boglizk> hello
[01:54] <LinuxMafia> protocol2, but i dont know which user i have to add in installation
[01:54] <BlueEagle> brimble: ISBN:<PHONE_NUMBER>; Published: Aug 4, 2006  <= Doesn't appear to be published yet so you'll need to wait anyhow or so it appears.
[01:55] <finkployd> Ng: That's a shame, I have some friends with Powerbooks who want to run it (they are not up to compiling kernels)
[01:55] <pl_ice> any programs that can listen to streamed radio?...
[01:55] <LinuxMafia> pl_ice, mplayer
[01:55] <bimberi> pl_ice: rhythmbox
[01:55] <brimble> Blue...Yep guess so, bugger
[01:55] <Ng> finkployd: it's possible that it may show up in the backports tree, but changing kernel versions is quite involved because of userspace dependencies these days. Edgy should be out in October though, which will have a shiny new kernel :)
[01:56] <localvar> 5 CD option and 1 CD option and 8 CD option at Shipit where you order Free CD's what is the difference between them ?
[01:56] <Mutiny|Sakara> I am struggeling to install ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386 onto my laptop any chance anyone could help me out
[01:56] <LinuxMafia> pl_ice, gxine , realplay
[01:56] <killaz> protocol2: that's the whole wmware I thought you could only install vmware-player. Like they say here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VmwarePlayer?highlight=%28vmware%29
[01:56] <pl_ice> yeh, but there was another one :/ it actually listed all the radios registered on the net, i can't remember what was it called :/
[01:56] <rapha> Could somebody pastebin his original /boot/grub/menu.lst for me? I had some probs with the installation and now there is none :-/
[01:57] <Guardian> what's your terminal font ??? i'm usinb monospace 12. but since dist upgrade i find it bigger than it used to be. i would like to know if my fonts settings changed for terminal or if monospace 12 is rendered bigger than before
[01:58] <Guardian> i noticed libcairo has been updated in the process. maybe there's a link
[01:58] <killaz> LinuxMafia: are you running the vmwareWorkstation or vmwarePlayer?
[01:59] <LinuxMafia> killaz, worksattion
[01:59] <LinuxMafia> killaz, and i dont know how to set the root password
[01:59] <killaz> LinuxMafia: ahh.. ok!
[01:59] <LinuxMafia> killaz, i added regular user at installation
[02:00] <LinuxMafia> killaz, now i want to install xchat , it asks for root password
[02:00] <bimberi> localvar: those numbers are quantities
[02:00] <froggi_> BlueEagle, sorry, I'm using XTERM from a Windoze box onto my other Ubuntu machine and having trouble pasting the FSTAB across the machines, I might restart this question in the morning off the real machine
[02:00] <killaz> LinuxMafia: you can install everything if you use sudo...
[02:00] <killaz> the password is the same password as the passwords user
[02:01] <rapha> Hello?
[02:01] <scheuri> problem solved...:)
[02:01] <LinuxMafia> killaz, so i can not use X for that?
[02:01] <killaz> LinuxMafia: :D hopefully you understand what I'm saying
[02:01] <kbrooks> bbl school
[02:01] <bimberi> rapha: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15971 - note that i have to clean out a few old kernels :)
[02:01] <rapha> bimberi: Thanks :-) ... no prob about the old kernels *g*
[02:01] <LinuxMafia> killaz, yeah i do
[02:01] <BlueEagle> froggi_: To copy text just mark it and to paste it in windows press CTRL+V
[02:01] <killaz> LinuxMafia: yes are you installing xchat using apt-get?
[02:01] <LinuxMafia> killaz, no
[02:02] <BlueEagle> froggi_: and you might want to concider running putty if you ssh into the box in question.
[02:02] <killaz> LinuxMafia: synaptic....
[02:02] <LinuxMafia> killaz, i wanted to use add/remove thing in option
[02:02] <boricua> on the server install how do you achieve Automatic LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP) during install i did not see any option for that
[02:02] <killaz> LinuxMafia:  just fill in teh same password as the one you use to login
[02:02] <BlueEagle> linuxmafia: Using sunaptic is "the right way"(tm) to install software.
[02:02] <[pyro] > hey guys
[02:02] <froggi_> BlueEagle, I SSH now, using Cygwin and then startx... can't rember what to append to command to free up the terminal window while gedit is running on fstab
[02:03] <Hexidigital_> does Ubuntu cache dns records? (similar to windows xp)  something is bogging down my WLAN since i connected to my college WLAN
[02:03] <bimberi> boricua: it's on the server CD, not the server option of the alternate CD
[02:03] <spikeb> BlueEagle: actually, it's the right way for advanced software installation. the right way is gnome-app-install.
[02:03] <killaz> protocol2: do you know anything about installation of vmware?
[02:03] <boricua> bimberi:that what i downloaded the server cd
[02:03] <compengi> hi all
[02:03] <BlueEagle> spikeb: Well, that's what I get for using xubuntu I guess. ;D
[02:04] <Hexidigital_> boricua:: you should just have to type lamp then press return to start the install
[02:04] <killaz> protocol2:  cause you told me to look on the wiki for vmware, but I want to install the player NOT the workstation
[02:04] <spikeb> BlueEagle: oh, in xubuntu it's definitely the right way
[02:04] <bimberi> boricua: oh, ok, i understand that it's on the initial boot menu (although i've not actually seen it)
[02:04] <spikeb> BlueEagle: :)
[02:04] <Seveas> killaz, sudo apt-get isntall vmware-player
[02:04] <protocol2> i just did this
[02:04] <protocol2> !vmware
[02:04] <ubotu> it has been said that vmware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[02:04] <killaz> Seveas: that's the same as synaptic right?
[02:04] <Seveas> killaz, yes
[02:05] <boricua> bimberi, i see thanks just read it here http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/installing-from-cd.html
[02:05] <killaz> protocol2: you keep pointing there ... that is the workstation! I want to install the player.
[02:05] <Hexidigital_> killaz:: vmware server is a fun toy (and is free)
[02:05] <jazy> how do i find out what version of ubuntu im running?
[02:05] <killaz> Seveas: well I installed the player using synaptic...
[02:05] <bimberi> boricua: ah, there you go, thankyou for the link :)
[02:05] <protocol2> no I was looking it up personally for myself
[02:05] <killaz> Seveas: but ran into some errors
[02:06] <Seveas> killaz, what were those?
[02:06] <protocol2> the one you want is the ubuntu wiki pages
[02:06] <bimberi> ubotu tell jazy about bersion
[02:06] <bimberi> ubotu tell jazy about version
[02:06] <killaz> E: vmware-player: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:06] <spikeb> bersion!
[02:06] <compengi> are all users here working under linux
[02:06] <spikeb> compengi: a very very high percentage are
[02:06] <froggi_> BlueEagle, killaz, thanks for your help tonight, sorry to waste your time. I'll get on the right machine tomorrow and look at your suggestions
[02:06] <rapha> WOW!
[02:06] <jazy> thanks
[02:06] <rapha> Pretty new artwork!
[02:06] <spikeb> compengi: i think the rest are at work or school and logged on :)
[02:06] <boricua> compengi: that should be the case  good questions:-)
[02:06] <killaz> Seveas: let me try apt-get.... maybe that wil work
[02:06] <Seveas> killaz, put the complete output of the following command on the pastebin: dpkg --configure -a
[02:07] <killaz> froggi_: np good luck
[02:07] <Hexidigital_> killaz:: either way, it should have installed any required packages as well
[02:07] <jazy> Ubuntu edgy (development branch).... yeah baby... bring on the breakage :-)
[02:07] <killaz> Hexidigital_: yes. Two extra vmware packages...
[02:07] <compengi> i'm using windows xp but planing to change to ubuntu linux
[02:07] <compengi> i liked it
[02:07] <killaz> Seveas: dpkg -- configure -a?
[02:07] <killaz> thats it?
[02:07] <Hexidigital_> killaz:: let us know what the errors are
[02:07] <brimble> Ubuntu rocks....
[02:08] <Hexidigital_> brimble:: yes, we know :-D
[02:08] <brimble> Oh, I thought we were stating the obvious....sorry :)
[02:08] <loow> ubuntu suxx :D
[02:08] <jazy> cool compeng
[02:08] <loow> nono
[02:08] <compengi> but i'm scared of using a new os
[02:08] <loow> ;)
[02:08] <Seveas> killaz, yes
[02:08] <Hexidigital_> compengi:: you get used to it... you feel free-er
[02:09] <jazy> its easy to lean ubuntu.. you can just ask here or on the forums
[02:09] <MetaMorfoziS> have anybody working external dvd writer on usb?
[02:09] <MetaMorfoziS> samsung anyway?
[02:09] <jazy> this room is how i learnt ubuntu
[02:09] <Hexidigital_> does Ubuntu cache dns records? (similar to windows xp)  something is bogging down my WLAN since i connected to my college WLAN (sorry to be a pain, but it is REALLY lagging my WLAN)
[02:10] <nosklo> compengi, what is scaring you?
[02:10] <Hexidigital_> jazy:: me too :)
[02:10] <rapha> Hexidigital_: Whenever I had probs with name resolution, manually entering a known-good nameserver (try <IP_ADDRESS>) into /etc/resolv.conf helped...
[02:10] <nosklo> Hexidigital_, no, linux-based OSs dont cache DNS.
[02:11] <killaz> !pastebin
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[02:11] <nosklo> Hexidigital_, if you need DNS cache you should install a DNS proxy
[02:11] <compengi> cause i got used to use a specific type of programes and formats on windows but it looks different on linux =/
[02:11] <pl_ice> i'm bored :/
[02:11] <Hexidigital_> nosklo:: no, i dont want cache, but ever since i connected to my college WLAN i seem to be having DNS problems
[02:11] <nosklo> compengi, different and better, must add
[02:11] <Hexidigital_> rapha, nosklo:: thanks guys
[02:11] <rapha> spikeb: sucks, eh?
[02:12] <spikeb1> rapha: actually, it's not that bad
[02:12] <killaz> Seveas, Hexidigital_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15972
[02:12] <rapha> spikeb: I tried it out once and got totally lost... in XChat you can see at the first glance what's going on in a channel
[02:12] <spikeb1> rapha: it seems to have changed a lot since the last time i used it
[02:12] <rapha> spikeb1: gotta try it again then maybe :)
[02:13] <compengi> ok how can i replace my programes by linux
[02:13] <Seveas> killaz, what's the output of: uname -a
[02:13] <pl_ice> hey, is the new ubuntu version stable now? as not many error reports etc? ...
[02:13] <Hexidigital_> rapha, nosklo:: the college DNS server (gateway) was first in the list... that could've been the problem?
[02:13] <compengi> like nero which program on linux replaces it
[02:13] <killaz> Linux desktop 2.6.15-25-386
[02:13] <someothernick> k3b gnomebaker
[02:13] <Seveas> killaz, and dpkg -l vmware*
[02:13] <someothernick> compengi,
[02:13] <wickedpuppy> compengi, get k3b ..
[02:14] <killaz> Seveas: No packages found matching vmware.
[02:14] <compengi> it replaces nero
[02:14] <killaz> Seveas: oh wait
[02:14] <compengi> ?
[02:14] <killaz> :D
[02:14] <Seveas> killaz, don't forget the *
[02:14] <rapha> Hexidigital_: sure, when you can't access it from at home
[02:14] <wickedpuppy> compengi, why not install it and see for yourself ?
[02:14] <killaz> :D
[02:14] <killaz> yup
[02:14] <compengi> ok :D
[02:14] <nosklo> Heartsbane, yes, it solves DNS in order
[02:15] <Hexidigital_> rapha:: that was it then... so i just need <IP_ADDRESS> (my router) in that config file, sound right?
[02:15] <Hexidigital_> nosklo:: that what i thought
[02:15] <compengi> i had ordered a CD from ubuntu shipit
[02:15] <rapha> Hexidigital_: yup, sounds good
[02:15] <killaz> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15975
[02:15] <Hexidigital_> cool... lemme fix, be back
[02:16] <jcuevas> hi
[02:16] <BanskuZ> Helo
[02:16] <BanskuZ> *Hello
[02:16] <spikeb> interesting
[02:16] <spikeb> now if i can only get gaim to ONLY have tabs for chats, but not messages...
[02:16] <rapha> Yay, finally got Tremulous back!
[02:17] <compengi> btw does games rune on linux?
[02:17] <compengi> run*
[02:17] <someothernick> tremulous  is a addicitive game :)
[02:17] <pl_ice> eh, c ya later :)
[02:17] <rapha> Depends on the game.
[02:17] <Chousuke> Linux games do.
[02:17] <Chousuke> :P
[02:17] <rapha> Yup, Tremulous is QUITE addictive :)
[02:17] <someothernick> compengi, some
[02:17] <compengi> the new games
[02:17] <Chousuke> Windows games run too, if they're supported by Wine
[02:17] <Chousuke> or Cedega
[02:18] <killaz> Seveas: you got the pastebin?
[02:18] <Seveas> killaz, ah, my bad, try this: dpkg -l vmware* | cat
[02:18] <compengi> how can i know
[02:18] <killaz> np
[02:18] <nosklo> compengi, search games databases, or try it out
[02:18] <someothernick> websites should have a list
[02:18] <rapha> someothernick: where do you usually play?
[02:19] <someothernick> akka sometimes
[02:19] <rapha> Old school, someothernick?
[02:19] <someothernick> ?
[02:19] <killaz> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15977
[02:19] <compengi> i play need for speed most wanted, generals, fifa, commandos....
[02:20] <rapha> someothernick: prolly not :-) ... was just referring to the fact that AKKA is the traditional server for pre-1.0.1 Trem players
[02:20] <someothernick> ah i c :)
[02:20] <someothernick> i get 50 for ping there
[02:20] <ekp> hi
[02:20] <rapha> Kay
[02:20] <BCK> nosklo: got it working :)
[02:20] <someothernick> hello ekp
[02:20] <spikeb> there doesn't seem to be a way to make only chats have tabs, and not IMs
[02:20] <spikeb> :(
[02:21] <Seveas> killaz, uninstall vmware with: dpkg -P vmware-player
[02:21] <Seveas> killaz, then install: vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-25
[02:21] <BCK> where abouts can i add comands i wish to run as root at bootup
[02:21] <BCK> ?
[02:21] <Seveas> killaz, and then install vmware-player again
[02:21] <ekp> someothernick: I am having a problem with my panel configuration in Gnome  Dapper Drake Release
[02:21] <killaz> Seveas: ok....!
[02:21] <nosklo> BCK, what was it?
[02:21] <rapha> BCK: make yourself some init script... /etc/init.d/rc.local would be a good place.
[02:21] <someothernick> ekp, what is the prob
[02:22] <ekp> I add window space changer but can not get it to show more than one workspace
[02:22] <rapha> BCK: that would then be linked for example to /etc/rc3.d/S99local
[02:22] <killaz> Seveas: that's the newer module...?
[02:22] <BCK> needed libxineextracodecs
[02:22] <Seveas> killaz, yes
[02:22] <BCK> rapha its just one line
[02:22] <BCK> surely can add it somewhere?
[02:23] <rapha> BCK: it would be a hack. What do you want to start anyways?
[02:23] <BCK> just tv card
[02:23] <BCK> modprove bt
[02:23] <ekp> error shows failed schema for panel apps
[02:23] <BCK> one line
[02:23] <ekp> or something to that effect
[02:23] <rapha> BCK: oh. Just add "bt" to /etc/modules then
[02:23] <BCK> ok
[02:23] <killaz> Seveas: ok I'm intalling it with apt-get cause in synaptic it doesn show up
[02:24] <compengi> does linux has viruses, adwares, spyware, trojans?
[02:24] <spikeb> no
[02:24] <BCK> ok
[02:24] <rapha> compengi: right now, none is known that is out in the wild. There have been 2 or three proof-of-concept viruses over the years, most afaik targetted at RedHat specifically.
[02:24] <BCK> thats the same as modprobeing rapha
[02:24] <BCK> ?
[02:25] <BCK> ?
[02:25] <rapha> BCK: yup
[02:25] <BCK> ok
[02:25] <ekp> display all workplaces fails in schema/apps
[02:25] <Hexidigital_> rapha, nosklo:: thanks guys... much better now :)
[02:25] <compengi> i can connect through linux on network to windows right
[02:25] <compengi> and share files
[02:25] <BCK> just the bt bit ?
[02:25] <rapha> Hexidigital_: hth :)
[02:25] <nosklo> Hexidigital_, np
[02:25] <bimberi> compengi: yes
[02:25] <alth> GACK! Help! A game seems to have messed up my X session, everything is big! As in really low res! How do I get it back?
[02:26] <compengi> i'm biginning to
[02:26] <compengi> like linux more :P
[02:26] <bimberi> compengi: set up a share on windows, and connect to it via Places -> Connect to Server
[02:26] <guillem101> I'm planning to buy a LCD monitor... perhaps a BenQ FP202W... any suggestions?
[02:26] <killaz> Seveas: the installation went fine..
[02:26] <killaz> Seveas: thnx!
[02:26] <Seveas> np
[02:26] <someothernick> ekp, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166021 <-- this the same prob?
[02:26] <killaz> my mouse just died.....!
[02:26] <compengi> ty bimberi
[02:26] <Seveas> killaz, heh
[02:26] <BCK> rapha: shall i put modprobe dvb-bt8xx or just dvb-bt8xx ?
[02:27] <bimberi> compengi: yw :)
[02:27] <alth> Seriously, something is really screwed up in my X session, it's gone all huge! ;.; Help :(
[02:27] <killaz> Seveas: hehehhe no it's not an vmware issue...
[02:27] <ekp> yes it appears to be
[02:27] <compengi> but i'm just downloading the ubuntu and ordered the cd
[02:27] <ekp> I will read solution
[02:27] <someothernick> k :)
[02:28] <bimberi> BCK: in /etc/modules you only put the name of the module
[02:28] <BCK> ok
[02:28] <BCK> done
[02:28] <BCK>  brb time to test it out
[02:28] <killaz> Seveas: that's one of the reason why I switched to linux, cause I thought that I had to much USB devices and that windows cant deal with it..
[02:28] <killaz> Seveas: but still the problem continues....
[02:28] <alth> Sod it, I'll just restart my session.
[02:28] <Hexidigital_> compengi:: the only thing you will be uncomfortable with at first is the layout and the commands.... once you acquire a comfort zone with that, you will be fine... dont forget, the people on this channel are always here to help... all 800 + of them :)
[02:28] <killaz> How can I check if my USB ports are conflicting?
[02:28] <killaz> Hexidigital_: :p
[02:29] <rapha> Aaah! WLAN for the desktop. Finally freed of the Cables Trough My Home.
[02:29] <killaz> I know for sure when I plug in my mouse in my other box it will work
[02:29] <Hexidigital_> rapha:: congrats!  at least you're not using a Broadcom in a laptop :-D talk about a pain!
[02:29] <killaz> yup stil working....
[02:30] <killaz> probably an mother board issue?
[02:30] <rapha> Hexidigital_: Old hardware sometimes pays ;-) ... feeling with you tho
[02:31] <Hexidigital_> rapha:: but i got it... and i dont know how....
[02:31] <killaz> my usb board is just dead man...
[02:31] <rapha> Hexidigital_: ndiswrapper maybe?
 what does it mean to unset all keys in /schemas/apps/workspace_switcher_applets/prefs
[02:31] <killaz> uhm how can I rebot using my keyboard :D
[02:32] <killaz> reboot*
[02:32] <someothernick> ctrl alt del
[02:32] <Hexidigital_> rapha:: ndiswrapper broke it worse... the only thing is now i have to open the network-admin and click on the properties box for my wlan0 and it magickally works
[02:32] <rapha> Looks like he just found out someothernick :)
[02:32] <someothernick> :)
[02:33] <Hexidigital_> rapha:: probably a bug, but it comes in handy to make sure no one else can connect to a wlan if they DO get my password
[02:33] <rapha> Hexidigital_: might wanna check if stuff in /etc/network/interfaces looks good. Also, have you NetworkManager installed?
[02:33] <someothernick> ekp, remove i guess
[02:33] <Hexidigital_> rapha:: no network manager, nor wpa_supplicant
[02:33] <rapha> Hexidigital_: just ain't work?
[02:34] <someothernick> ekp, read post above last
[02:34] <Hexidigital_> rapha:: no, it works, after i click properties.... it's wierd...
[02:34] <compengi> btw does ubuntu supports multi-language
[02:34] <Hexidigital_> but, gotta go guys... .have a great day everyone!
[02:34] <rapha> Funny, true. No idea tho for how it could be solved :-}
[02:34] <rapha> you too
[02:34] <someothernick> compengi, yes
[02:34] <compengi> does it has arabic language
[02:35] <ekp> I did it
[02:35] <Hoxzer> no u didn't
[02:35] <ekp> I did not even know there was a configuration editor
[02:35] <Hoxzer> DOn tr to get all the glory
[02:35] <Hoxzer> lol, that proofs it :D
[02:35] <ekp> to bad it is not on System menu by default
[02:35] <Hoxzer> u didn't do it ekp
[02:35] <Hoxzer> don't lie :(
 no I mean I just did it
[02:36] <ekp> I am going ot see if it works
[02:36] <akrodha_> can i bug someone about nfs/smb?
[02:36] <ekp> crap
[02:36] <killaz> well a restart can do a miracle.... still I haven't figure out what is causing the hanging up of my mouse.
[02:36] <nosklo> how do I change subtitle size in totem?
[02:36] <Guardian> is there a way to relaunch mozilla-thunderbird enigmail first time wizard ???
[02:37] <ekp> I unset keys but still get problem
[02:37] <ekp> maybe I should remove app before unsetting keys?
[02:37] <someothernick> compengi, http://www.ubuntu.com/support/local and #ubuntu-il
[02:38] <someothernick> compengi, http://www.ubuntulinux.org.il also
[02:38] <someothernick> ekp, did you install for repos?
[02:38] <kinema> every time i try 'make menuconfig' i get pages and pages of errors.  the sources are pure vanilla.
[02:38] <ekp> someothernick>: ?
[02:39] <rapha> No wonder Trem crashes when trying to load a map... the Swapspace wasn't being mounted.
[02:39] <compengi> someothernick i don't need a support in languages i was asking if i can type in different languages like arabic
[02:39] <kinema> would someone take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15982
[02:39] <someothernick> did you use synaptic package manager to install?
[02:39] <rapha> What is there kinema
[02:39] <ekp> synaptic to install what?
[02:40] <ghost> hi all, okay this is an ubuntu problem i am assured by the ruby-lang people... um here is the console trace and the config.log which i think is more relevant. i think this is some sort of c problem... any help would be much appreciated! http://rafb.net/paste/results/P2MCHr58.html
[02:40] <rapha> kinema: my father's wife is called Astrid
[02:40] <kinema> rapha the output from when i try to menuconfig a new kernel
[02:40] <someothernick> gnome-applets
[02:40] <kinema> :)
[02:40] <rapha> kinema: do you have libc-dev installed?
[02:40] <alth> Anyone know of a program I could use to search multiple torrent trackers? ^^
[02:41] <[DeCaf] > How do you specify that you want a range of IP adresses as an alias for a NIC in /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:41] <ekp> I uninstall gnome panel and maybe appelets via synaptic and then reinstalled from XFCE
[02:41] <dsas> ghost: Have you installed build-essential ?
[02:41] <pinucset> somebody knows or have a modem c56cls working in ubuntu?
[02:41] <ghost> um this is a virtual fresh install of dapper
[02:41] <ghost> have install gcc and make and not much else
[02:41] <dsas> ghost: If you install build-essential then it'll give you some more C compilation related tools.
[02:42] <ghost> what is build-essential? can i get it with synaptic?
[02:42] <kinema> rapha: hmmm... i would have thouht kernel-package would have installed them but that looks not to be the case.  installing now.  thanks.
[02:42] <rapha> np
[02:42] <someothernick> ghost, type in terminal sudo apt-get build-essential
[02:42] <dsas> ghost: Yeah, it's just another package
[02:43] <dsas> ghost: It is available from synaptic
[02:43] <ghost> great thanks
[02:43] <ghost> alot
[02:43] <brimble> yum -U
[02:43] <ghost> i'll give that a go
[02:43] <lepingbeta> ghost: Yes,you can do that.type in terminal sudo apt-get build-essential.
[02:44] <kinema> rapha:  that was it.  thanks.
[02:45] <rapha> hth kinema
 should I remove and reinstall via apt?
[02:45] <nbt> hi, trying to boot ubuntu 6 on a laptop i've just black screen (after the start/install one), what i can do ?
[02:45] <ardchoille> Seveas, Where can I find info about adding your packages to my sources.list ?
[02:45] <DerShodan> what kind of laptop?
[02:45] <someothernick> ekp, i guess so
[02:45] <rapha> nbt: try booting into recovery mode, tell us whether you just get a blank screen as well
 what runlevel?
[02:46] <nbt> laptop is acer 1692wlmi, with ati x700 vidoe card
[02:46] <DerShodan> a new one ... i have an acer aspire 4200 (i think ;) and coulnd run linux there too
[02:46] <ghost> hi okay that sort of half worked, as in i got further through the install before it failed again. here is the stack trace http://rafb.net/paste/results/8Jp7Ws82.html
[02:47] <Seveas> !tell ardchoille about Seveas
[02:47] <Hobbsee> !tell ianm about packaginggude
[02:47] <Hobbsee> !tell ianm about packagingguide
[02:47] <DerShodan> propably there are no drivers for laptop hardware? ^^
[02:47] <nbt> how do i boot into recovery ? i just plugged the live cd in then  reached  screen that says start/install ubuntu and other options i pressed enter and a bunch of lines came around sying ok ok ok; then i heard a music and the screen went black
[02:47] <ardchoille> Seveas, Thank you :)
[02:47] <DerShodan> you heard music?
[02:48] <someothernick> ekp, runlevel?
[02:48] <nbt> someones says me to install the x700 'xorg driver
[02:48] <nosklo> I need to change subtitle size and color in totem, how do I do this?
[02:48] <GwapoDaw> hello guys, need some help here... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198702
[02:48] <nbt> but how ? it's a live cd---
[02:48] <ekp> should be done without Xserver running?
[02:48] <DerShodan> sounds like Linux started properly... maybe your display has problems showing the Linux standard monitor resolution and frequency
[02:48] <someothernick> oh you can do it while xserver is running
[02:49] <nbt> so ?
[02:50] <DerShodan> hmm :)
[02:50] <MetaMorfoziS> where can i get libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6)?
[02:50] <DerShodan> there must be some .conf file that must be edited i guess
[02:50] <Frogzoo_> Anyone care to suggest a network asset management database? preferably wiki style, & mysql based?
[02:51] <GwapoDaw> can somebody check my thread here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198702
[02:52] <Lynoure> GwapoDaw: If you can sum it up in a sentense or two, you'll prolly get more help
[02:53] <rapha> Anybody in the know about a mirror for ftp.nerim.net's w32codecs? nerim.net appears to be down...
[02:53] <GwapoDaw> The disk activity indicator (Red Light) Freezes every startup and after a few seconds my PC hangs for about 5-10 seconds.
[02:54] <Nova> Hey guys
[02:54] <Nova> could one of you perhaps give me a lil advice?
[02:54] <Nova> I am trying to write to a folder in my file system, but i get a popup telling me I don't have permission to do so
[02:55] <Nova> even though i am the only user on the comp
[02:55] <aights> r u logged in as root?
[02:55] <jvNET_> @nova, try runing in terminal: sudo nautilus
[02:56] <Nova> sudo nautilus isnt doing anything
[02:56] <Nova> and how do i log in as root?
[02:56] <enkrav> Hello, 5.10 has a horribly unstable openoffice.org, how can I update it to a stabler one?
[02:56] <Kaja> Upgrade to Dapper.
[02:57] <killaz> Seveas: one more time thanks man... vmware is running fluently
[02:57] <jvNET_> if you do sudo nautilus, a window will popup, you can do anything like cut and paste in filesystem