[00:03] <tkamppeter_> slangasek, geser. with today's updates --ignore-missing-info in HPLIP works again.
[00:04] <tkamppeter_> Should I re-introduce --ignore-missing-info in HPLIP's Debian SVN or leave it away for backportability?
[00:04] <slangasek> tkamppeter_: as I said above, --ignore-missing-info is the wrong solution to the problem
[00:05] <slangasek> tkamppeter_: the real problem is that hplip contains a library, which binaries in the hpijs package link against, but there's no proper shlib declaration for this relationship
[00:05] <slangasek> so hpijs just depends on "hplip", which is wrong, because future versions of hplip may ship a lib with a different soname
[00:05] <tkamppeter_> slangasek, so I will inform Mark Purcell.
[00:05] <slangasek> ok
[00:05] <slangasek> or if you like, I can file a bug on the Debian package this weekend
[00:06] <tkamppeter_> slangasek, this would be great. Please do it.
[02:49] <StevenK> keescook: Membership to u-u-s; thanks
[02:50] <StevenK> keescook: Membership fixed, that is -- sorry, I'm a bit scatterbrained today
[03:03] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: Apparently not.
[03:04] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:09] <minghua> I wonder if there is enough interest to improve the texlive packages in gutsy.
[05:12] <minghua> The texlive stuff in gutsy is not particularly in good shape, and with the recent security upgrade, people are start seeing upgrade failures, such as bug 174569.
[05:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 174569 in texlive-bin "postinst failure during gutsy security update" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174569
[05:13] <minghua> TeXlive upstream developers, as well as Debian texlive maintainer, Norbert, proposes to upgrade texlive version to at least 2007-11.
[05:13] <minghua> (gutsy currently have 2007-10)
[05:15] <minghua> IMHO it's pretty bad to have upgrade failures for security updates...
[07:35] <StEaLtHtHiEf> I have an easy question.  Can I develop a program that for example, when the user hits a key combination, like shift+enter, a circle is drawn around the mouse pointer until the key's are depressed erasing the circle?
[07:37] <persia> StEaLtHtHiEf: Yes.
[07:38] <StEaLtHtHiEf> is there a site that I can go read up on this, i don't wanna both you for info if there is something out there already.
[07:40] <persia> StEaLtHtHiEf: That's a harder question.  I suspect that x.org likely has some pointers to the right specifications, but I'm not sure.
[07:41] <StEaLtHtHiEf> ubuntuforums.org isn't working for me
[07:43] <StEaLtHtHiEf> so that is why I am here, I am looking to try to develop a program so that I can stop using panels.  Sort of a shift+mouse_button_1 menu that comes up around the mouse.
[07:52] <persia> StEaLtHtHiEf: Ah.  This isn't really a support forum, even for developing applications on Ubuntu or for Ubuntu.  You might look at how fluxbox does it: there is a contextual menu there.
[07:54] <StEaLtHtHiEf> Not looking for support, just needed an answer to my first question.  second was just idle conversation.
[07:54] <StEaLtHtHiEf> And I do thank you for pointing me in a direction.
[07:54] <persia> StEaLtHtHiEf: Ah.  Excellent then :)  Sorry for the confusion.
[07:54] <StEaLtHtHiEf> no problem!
[08:05] <Lore2> I've done a little programming in windows, but I've got no experience programming under linux, what kind of material should I read if I want to fix bugs / improve functionality?
[08:09] <StEaLtHtHiEf> i can't get the ubuntu forum page to come up
[08:09] <StEaLtHtHiEf> but there is a development forum, might be programming or something.
[08:10] <StEaLtHtHiEf> Somewhere there, is what your looking for.  As I said, the page isn't working for me, and I can't tell you exactly
[08:10] <persia> Lore2: I'd suggest looking at similar code as a good way to learn.  Most of the APIs have docs, but it's not often in a HOWTO format.
[08:11] <Lore2> As i'm very unfamiliar with linux, could you name a couple of the commonly used API's so I can pull up the documentation for them?
[08:12] <slangasek> "POSIX"? :)
[08:12] <Lore2> that's it?
[08:12] <slangasek> that's one of the more important core APIs
[08:12] <persia> X has a bunch.  GTK and QT are popular.
[08:12] <slangasek> there are lots of others, but tend to be specific to context
[08:19] <Lore2> Just out of curiosity is KDE/QT better than GNOME/GTK atm? I've noticed some missing features in gnome that I've heard are in KDE.
[09:27] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[10:44] <Hobbsee> ah, good.  gutsy has firefox 3
[11:16] <geser> infinity: I've now filed a bug for the manual boot-strapping of mig and gnumach: bug #174851
[11:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 174851 in mig "mig and gnumach need a manual boot-strapping on the buildds" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174851
[12:35] <ogra> asac, you dont happen to be around, do you ?
[12:36] <asac> ogra: more or less yes
[12:37] <ogra> i'm just looking through these xul hall of fame ... there is a very intresting minimal browser called mybrowser
[12:37] <ogra> s/these/this/
[12:37] <asac> is it a xul app?
[12:37] <ogra> yes
[12:37] <ogra> http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/xulrunner/
[12:38] <ogra> it eats 30M RSS (vs 80 here for teh same firefox win open) ... no tabs, no new windows
[12:39] <ogra> linking the plugin dir from firefox into its work tree makes all plugins work etc ... very nice little thing
[12:40] <asac> ogra: ok cool ... file a bug requesting to package it (if you don't want to do that on your own) :)
[12:40] <asac> ogra: we wilil do it then
[12:40] <ogra> hmm, i never packaged a xul app ...
[12:41] <asac> ogra: hmm ... it looks like lots of features are missing... like bookmarks et al
[12:41] <ogra> could be an intresting exercise :)
[12:41] <asac> ogra: should be fairly simple to package
[12:41] <ogra> yeah, its very cut down, but could be a base for enhancements
[12:41] <ogra> (it supports extensions, so bokmarks could as well be an extension :) )
[12:42] <ogra> in any case its fast, small and compatible that makes it intresting :)
[12:42] <asac> yeah :)
[12:42] <asac> you can write your own browser like that in a few minutes ... thats the power of xulrunner
[12:43] <ogra> well, you have to know the language :)
[12:43] <asac> its like html (xul) + javascript
[12:44] <ogra> hmm
[12:44] <asac> there should be lots of folks that have a similar skillset that can easily be extended
[12:44] <asac> but in the end its like writing dynamic websites with real widgets :)
[12:45] <ogra> lol
[12:45]  * ogra just thought the brwser was broken, but google.de is supposed to be black today :)
[12:46] <asac> why is that?
[12:46] <asac> ah lichtaus
[12:46] <ogra> yeah
[12:49] <asac> ok i am out ... need food ;)
[14:09] <swien> hi
[14:09] <limac> hi can anyone tell me how to be a part of the hardy devel community
[14:14] <swien> Can anyone tell me how to package java software with maven build-system?
[14:17] <limac> no clue about java or maven
[14:18] <Adri2000> limac: hi, join #ubuntu-motu and read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing
[14:19] <swien> The problem is that maven is quite new in the repo and nobody seems to have a clue how to use it... It automatically fetches dependencies from its own repository.
[14:20] <limac> thnx
[14:21] <persia> swien: The Ubuntu build system doesn't allow network access during build.  You'll need to help maven a bit to get it to work.
[14:23] <swien> persia: exactly. By helping maven you mean patch maven?
[14:23] <persia> swien: Or just make sure that maven finds everything locally from the build-depends.
[14:24] <swien> persia: do you know a package that already does this?
[14:24] <persia> swien: Nope.
[14:28] <swien> persia: Thanks for your help so far.
[14:50] <bigon> could someone schedule a new build try for sylpheed?
[14:52] <geser> bigon: does it build now?
[14:52] <bigon> I've tested in a pbuilder and it builds fine
[14:53] <geser> Hobbsee: ^^^ a give-back of sylpheed please :)
[14:53] <Hobbsee> enobuilddpy.
[14:55] <geser> what happened to it?
[14:55] <Hobbsee> doesn't work on windows...
[14:58] <geser> ah
[14:58] <geser> you using Windows?
[15:00] <Hobbsee> unfortunately, yes
[15:01] <geser> bigon: wait till Hobbsee boots Kubuntu again or till monday when the other build-admins are back (like pitti)
[15:01]  * Hobbsee isnt using kubuntu.
[15:01] <bigon> geser: ok thx :)
[15:01]  * Hobbsee uses ubuntu now
[15:11] <jdstrand> keescook: I updated ubuntu-cve-tracker to be more flexible with embargoed filenames.  They should now be ^EMB-[\w-]*$
[15:11] <jdstrand> keescook: so 'EMB-CVE-2007-1234' and 'EMB-foo' are both valid
[15:11] <ubotu> Multiple cross-site scripting (XSS) vulnerabilities in sitex allow remote attackers to inject arbitrary web script or HTML via (1) the sxYear parameter to calendar.php, (2) the search parameter to search.php, (3) the linkid parameter to redirect.php, or (4) the page parameter to calendar_events.php. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-1234)
[17:55] <bigon> ubuntu changes in lintian seems to have been merged in the debian package, great :)
[17:55] <bigon> could someone have a look at it and sync if it's ok?
[19:16] <blueyed> Is http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ not being updated since end of november?
[22:51] <oliver_g_> hi
[22:52] <oliver_g_> I have a PDF file that crashes Evince, but somehow apport is not triggered
[22:52] <oliver_g_> any idea why that happens?
[22:52] <oliver_g_> if I run evince with that file in terminal, it prints "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" so I assume apport should indeed come up...
[22:53] <pochu> Is a crash file in /var/crash/ ?
[22:53] <pochu> +there
[22:53] <oliver_g_> pochu: yes!
[22:54] <oliver_g_> pochu: three actually: from evince, file-roller, and hwdb-gui
[22:55] <pochu> oliver_g_: open the folder within nautilus and double click it.
[22:55] <pochu> Apport should open it then
[23:03] <oliver_g_> pochu: thanks, that worked nicely!
[23:04] <pochu> yw
[23:19] <oliver_g_> I have reproduced the crash several times, with different terminal output... Should I submit the new apport crash data as well, and can I attach it to my original bug report?
[23:29] <geser> oliver_g_: can you also attach the PDF if possible? so others can use it for testing
[23:43] <oliver_g_> geser: I suppose not
[23:44] <oliver_g_> it's the user manual for a laptop, and it states clearly that transmission over internet is not allowed without consent of the author
[23:45] <Fujitsu> oliver_g_: Is said manual not available for download from the manufacturer's website?
[23:46] <oliver_g_> Fujitsu: good idea - I'll have a look :-)
[23:46] <oliver_g_> it's named SPR6L45GR0.pdf btw


[22:33] <Ximal> It still won't let me create a folder..
[22:33] <psychotic> hey Slart, can we get a private message thing goin, this is kinda messy
[22:34] <Slart> psychotic: sure
[22:34] <SebNaitsabes> !LAMP > MXIIA
[22:34] <Polygon89> kubotaz4, just right click the firefox.tar.bz2, click 'extract here', and then move the 'firefox' folder to your home folder or something
[22:34] <psychotic> :D how do we do that?
[22:34] <unop> Ximal, what was the exact command you just did?
[22:34] <R3v1L> BobTheBruin: u're wellcome :)
[22:34] <Ximal> sudo chown -Rv $USER:$USER  /media/disk
[22:34] <towski> anyone familiar with an issue related to application windows, and scrolling? Sometimes when I resume a session, the scrolling on windows fails to redraw the window. and the gnome taskbar icons (like for network connections of pidgin notifications) don't redraw either. WM is metacity.
[22:34] <Intelli> H__, got any other ideas? The Wine app database doesn't have the .exe file listed in it either.
[22:34] <Slart> psychotic: you might want to register before trying private messages
[22:34] <kubotaz4> then?
[22:34] <Slart> !register | psychotic
[22:34] <Polygon89> then inside there is a 'firefox' file, click that and it should say 'run or run in terminal' just click run
[22:34] <Ximal> result = changed ownership of `/media/disk/lost+found' to paducahguy:paducahguy
[22:34] <Ximal> changed ownership of `/media/disk' to paducahguy:paducahguy
[22:34] <Ximal> paducahguy@paducahguy-desktop:~$
[22:34] <R3v1L> Anybody having problems with iwl3945 wireless driver?
[22:34] <megasquid> im on dapper drake (6.06) and i'd like to upgrade gtk+ from 2.8 to 2.12 anyone know which repository i need to do this?
[22:34] <psychotic> what? lol
[22:34] <SebNaitsabes> !wireless
[22:34] <unop> Ximal, what does this return?    ls -ld /media/disk
[22:35] <jgpenate> e
[22:35] <R3v1L> SebNaitsabes: Yes, I've read this, the problem is with this specific driver
[22:35] <R3v1L> ;)
[22:35] <debCarlos> kubotaz4: Look, most of the software you will download have the .deb format, in that case, you only have to double click them. In case the package is in .tar , .tar.gz it can mean two things: Your download have already-compiled binaries (You only have to double click on the name of the soft) and you only have to extract it, or, you downloaded sources and you need to compile them...
[22:35] <jgpenate> sebNaisabes?
[22:35] <SebNaitsabes> what?
[22:35] <jgpenate> hi.. I have a usb problem
[22:35] <debCarlos> *.tar  , .tar.gz , etc...
[22:36] <kubotaz4> but once I have extracted them....then what...its not a completed answer
[22:36] <R3v1L> jgpenate: what kind of problem?
[22:36] <kubotaz4> and polygon...it just says extract...not extract here...
[22:36] <unop> kubotaz4, usually you read the INSTALL or README file for instructions
[22:37] <Soul_Sample> why has my ubuntu lost the ability to stretch full screen apps with a smaller resolution than my desktop is after i'v set up twin view with my tv?
[22:37] <kubotaz4> usually unop, when I ask for help, I dont want an answer telling me to go read it somewhere...Im asking help because what I have learned isnt helping me
[22:37] <joobaby> if I want to record tv on my box do I need a tv tuner card or will my video card suffice? It already is connected to the tv right now but I don't know how to hook the cable to it.
[22:37] <jgpenate> r3v1L hi
[22:37] <jgpenate> just installed and reinstalled ubuntu
[22:37] <H__> Intelli no, sorry. i only find other ppl woth problems on it too : http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=33036
[22:37] <jgpenate> ipod etc not being found
[22:37] <R3v1L> jgpenate: lsusb | grep iPod
[22:37] <unop> kubotaz4, reading the README or INSTALL file is the right way -- each package has its instructions, and you ought to follow them
[22:38] <kubotaz4> but if i dont know what it is saying, then how is it going to help me?
[22:38] <efu> When I have compiz enabled and go full screen in VLC, the black areas on top and bottom of the screen are semi transparent and/or distorted. Totem does not have the problem. Anyone knows about this?
[22:38] <Xima1> paducahguy@paducahguy-desktop:~$ ls -ld /media/disk
[22:38] <Xima1> drwxrwxrwx 3 paducahguy paducahguy 4096 2008-07-16 16:07 /media/disk
[22:38] <Xima1> paducahguy@paducahguy-desktop:~$
[22:38] <R3v1L> if it shows anythin, your USB is working
[22:38] <herrmess> Some proc is downloading from the net on my box. How do I know which?
[22:38] <kubotaz4> I dont know what the binary packages are, and not fully versed in linux and I am learning
[22:38] <unop> kubotaz4, try and understand it, it is in plain english - if there is something you don't understand in the instructions, ask us
[22:38] <debCarlos> kubotaz4: Listen unop. Once i was going to compile Wine and for not reading the README, it failed and i lose 30 minutes....
[22:38] <kubotaz4> what do you think im doing unop?!
 did you download it from their website?\
[22:39] <Xima1> unop - i posted it's result
[22:39] <Polygon89> kubotaz4, did you extract firefox to some folder?
[22:39] <Starnestommy> herrmess: try sudo netstat -A inet -alp
[22:39] <unop> kubotaz4, as per the instructions - what don't you understand?
[22:39] <Jack_Sparrow> kubotaz4 If you are still new to linux, it would be in your best interest to stick with the supported repos for adding software
[22:39] <kubotaz4> dont worry unop, polygon and drive3r get me.  thanks guys
[22:39] <kubotaz4> no...i havent extracted it to a folder yet
[22:39] <jgpenate> Hi.. I need help with usb...
[22:39] <unop> Xima1, try this.   mkdir /media/disk/newdir
[22:39] <jgpenate> can anyone help?
[22:40] <Polygon89> kubotaz4, right click the tar.bz2 and click 'extract here'
[22:40] <debCarlos> kubotaz4: Firefox don't need any compilation, you only have to execute the "firefox" executable....
[22:40] <Polygon89> kubotaz4, it should extract it to a folder called firefox-3.0 or something
[22:40] <kubotaz4> Ive just created a folder on my desktop and are extracting the files to it
[22:40] <Xima1> ughh nm
[22:40] <joobaby>  if I want to record tv on my box do I need a tv tuner card or will my video card suffice? It already is connected to the tv right now but I don't know how to hook the cable to it.
[22:40] <Driv3r912> kubotaz4, no problem, but did you download it from Firefox's website?
[22:40] <herrmess> thanks Starnestommy. I'll try. If this won't do, next in line is wireshark...
[22:40] <Polygon89> kubotaz4, its easier to right click > extract here, but that works too =P
[22:40] <Xima1> it works now..
[22:40] <orgthingy> hi! i really need help this time! When Flash works (sounds) my songs dont work! but, when my songs work, flash (sounds) dont work!!!!
[22:40] <Xima1> thanks unop
[22:40] <orgthingy> what should I do :S ?
[22:41] <kubotaz4> yes it was dled fromt he website..
[22:41] <mariecpu> http://pastebin.ca/1073779 - here's a pastebin of my bluez-utils compile errors, any help would be greatly appreciated
[22:41] <failure> question...
[22:41] <kubotaz4> ok...all files extracted to the folder
[22:41] <kubotaz4> poly..it only says extract, not extract here
[22:41] <Polygon89> kubotaz4, ok open the folder, and look inside. there should be a 'firefox' file
[22:41] <orgthingy> anybody?
[22:41] <orgthingy> knows solution?
[22:41] <orgthingy> please
[22:42] <failure> if i have fedora and ubuntu, and want to setup pxe with automatic handsfree installer, can  do both through the preseed method or do i have to have two servers, one running kickstart and the other using the preseed method?
[22:42] <Smaug> i tried asking this on #ubuntu-server, and no one answered, but if (in apache2) a2dissite is not working (my sites are not being disabled when i try to do it) what can I do? how do i fix this?
[22:42] <Polygon89> kubotaz4, and it should have a icon with a blue diamond with gears in it
[22:42] <kubotaz4> but ive got the folder, and the files are there
[22:42] <Polygon89> kubotaz4, see it?
[22:42] <Starnestommy> orgthingy: what were you using to play music?
[22:42] <orgthingy> Starbestommy: kaffeine
[22:42] <kubotaz4> yes
[22:42] <kubotaz4> got it
[22:42] <Eyes`Only> Has anyone gotten lightscribe working in Hardy? I've tried for several hours now with no success! I installed 4L and used sudo 4L-cli enumerate but it shows no drives, I've edited /etc/lightscribe.rc and manually added /dev/scd0, and I've installed both the .deb and the .rpm (using alien) of the lightscribe software.
[22:42] <orgthingy> I tried everything, but same problem
[22:42] <molgrum> 60Hz is actually 84Hz, 61Hz is actually 75Hz, 62Hz is actually 60Hz... what gives?
[22:42] <megasquid> im on dapper drake (6.06) and i'd like to upgrade gtk+ from 2.8 to 2.12 anyone know which repository i need to do this?
[22:42] <ajitam__> hi my ubuntu is connected to wireless network and the securty of network has change (wpa key) is there I way I can change key with terminal ?
[22:42] <orgthingy> I tried Audacious, amaroK
[22:42] <Starnestommy> orgthingy: you might need to use "killall esd"
[22:42] <orgthingy> and many players
[22:42] <orgthingy> but
[22:42] <Driv3r912> kubotaz4, ok. You should get it directly from the package manager, that way, you don't have to install shortcuts, etc..., the package manager does everything for you.
[22:42] <orgthingy> killall esd?
[22:42] <Polygon89> kubotaz4, ok you can just double click that and select 'run'
[22:42] <orgthingy> whats that :D ?
[22:42] <FloodBot1> orgthingy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:43] <daedra> I can't figure out why my headphones output sound, but not the soundcard
[22:43] <Polygon89> Driv3r912, he wants ver 3, he is using gutsy so it isnt in the repos
[22:43] <daedra> alsaconf seems to have loaded the right driver, the volume is turned up in alsamixer, xmms and every volume manager you can think of
[22:43] <Driv3r912> polygon89 has you, good luck!
[22:43] <kubotaz4> ok...it brought up firefox 2.0 again
[22:43] <orgthingy> im not flooding :S
[22:43] <Starnestommy> orgthingy: er, I think it was artsd, not esd
[22:43] <orgthingy> but anyway, where can I get this :D ?
[22:43] <Polygon89> kubotaz4, quit out of firefox completely and try it again
[22:43] <kubotaz4> thanks driv3r
[22:43] <daedra> and no, I am not using pulseaudio
[22:43] <Starnestommy> orgthingy: go to a terminal than type in killall artsd
[22:43] <Starnestommy> *then
[22:44] <xocite> ajitam__: use iwconfig
[22:44] <failure> if i have fedora and ubuntu, and want to setup pxe with automatic handsfree installer, can  do both through the preseed method or do i have to have two servers, one running kickstart and the other using the preseed method?
[22:44] <orgthingy> "artsd: no process killed"
[22:44] <orgthingy> :(
[22:44] <kubotaz4> nope, same thing...its starting it, but my "about firefox" window still shows that its <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:44] <debCarlos> kubotaz4: You downloaded firefox 3.0 ?
[22:44] <kubotaz4> yes deb
[22:45] <joobaby> join
[22:45] <superfirelord42> failure: you could use one server with pxe boot with seperate images in it
[22:45] <kubotaz4> poly...now what?
[22:45] <unop> mariecpu, what does this return?  ls -ld ~/bluez-utils-3.36;
[22:45] <superfirelord42> failure: so that the menu for pxe boot has two options, one for fedora, one for ubuntu...
[22:45] <orgthingy> Starnestommy: so, what should I do now?
[22:45] <Polygon89> kubotaz4, hmm... let me download it and see something real fast
[22:45] <orgthingy> unop! long time no see!
[22:45] <superfirelord42> failure: you choose one, install one, reboot, choose the other, it installs the other
[22:45] <kubotaz4> k
[22:45] <unop> hey orgthingy
[22:46] <failure> superfirelord42 the question is, can u use the preseed method?
[22:47] <failure> for even setting up the ldap support and all of that
[22:47] <superfirelord42> failure: oh, sorry, i must have misread it
[22:47] <kubotaz4> AHH HAH....Polygon89, i tried it again, and i think i have it
[22:47] <cruddpuppe1> Can someone help me restore my internets connection? I recently ran an update on my computer (I'm running 6.10, I believe.) and I lost the ability to connect to the internet
[22:47] <superfirelord42> failure: i know you could do the kickstart one... since it uses a simple file
[22:47] <Polygon89> kubotaz4, are you running 'firefox' or 'firefox.bin"
[22:47] <cruddpuppe1> Using wireless, I mean.
[22:47] <superfirelord42> i just dont know how the preseed method works...
[22:48] <kubotaz4> Ive got it..i think i had a small window still open that I didnt close. but i tried it again and it upgraded fine!
[22:48] <failure> superfirelord42 can i install ubuntu with kickstart?
[22:48] <Polygon89> kubotaz4, ok. and if you upgrade to hardy its installed by default =P
[22:48] <kubotaz4> Polygon89, now what should i do with this folder?
[22:48] <orgthingy> where can I control sound prefrences?
[22:48] <kubotaz4> Polygon89 will isnt that peachy
[22:48] <superfirelord42> failure: i do not think so, kickstart is specificly fedora...
[22:48] <owner> hello there
[22:48] <Polygon89> kubotaz4, you can move it into your home folder, or just make a folder called 'programs' and put it in there
[22:49] <kubotaz4> great....now this was an example, but what are my limitations to dling other programs? Polygon89
[22:49] <owner> I am new to all this but I need help to install ubuntu
[22:49] <Polygon89> kubotaz4, and then you can make a program launcher (right click on a panel > add to panel > new launcher) and then browser for that firefox file that you clicked on
[22:49] <pedro> every time i try to ssh to some machine, a window pop-ups asking-me to unlock the private key..
[22:49] <Polygon89> kubotaz4, well there are still a lot of programs, its just that you might not get the 'newest latest version'
[22:49] <debCarlos> owner: What's your problem/doubt ?
[22:50] <superfirelord42> owner: are you using the live cd? and is it going to be dual boot?
[22:50] <pedro> i search a lot on the web but havent found any solutions
[22:50] <Polygon89> kubotaz4, through the repos, so if you just have to use the latest version, you can just download it and run most programs in the same way you did here
[22:50] <owner> i have to do it with floopies
[22:50] <Eyes`Only> irc://irc.efnet.net/doom9
[22:50] <pedro> can anybody help me?
[22:50] <owner> 1.44
[22:50] <superfirelord42> owner: floppies? ouch...
[22:50] <Eyes`Only> w00ps, trying to figure out how to tell chatzilla to go there :-\
[22:50] <joobaby> how do you know if your video card has a tuner
[22:50] <owner> yeah
[22:50] <owner> i know
[22:50] <kubotaz4> Polygon89, well with other applications, or programs?  is it as easy to install programs like firefox, or are others more complicated?
[22:51] <owner> machine has no cd rom
[22:51] <owner>  and i really want this
[22:51] <kubotaz4> is working with senaptic and add programs my best bet?
[22:51] <Polygon89> kubotaz4, if there is a program that isnt in the repo or isnt the newest version, you might have to compile it first, but usually they come in binary already
[22:51] <superfirelord42> owner, i know its possible
[22:51] <superfirelord42> owner: do you have network on that machine?
[22:52] <kubotaz4> well i dont know how to do that...is that type file ending in .bin?
[22:52] <Polygon89> kubotaz4, binary just means that its already compiled, you shoulden't have to worry about compiling programs but if you have to , im sure someone on irc or the forums will help you =P
[22:52] <shyal> hi, I tried installing my nvidia drivers using envy
[22:52] <pedro> anybody already had the some problem?
[22:52] <kubotaz4> thanks again Polygon89.
[22:52] <Seven_Six_Two> kubotaz4, to install a file that ends in bin, try        sh filename.bin
[22:52] <shyal> it worked, but I couldn't get opengl games to work (such as eve online)
[22:53] <shyal> so I uninstalled envy, but the nvidia drivers dn't appear in the restricted drivers manager
[22:53] <shyal> how do I get them back in there?
[22:53] <superfirelord42> failure: it is possible to dual boot them.. i just read a little on the preseed method
[22:53] <shyal> I tried installing the nvidia drivers manually but that was a no go
[22:53] <Seven_Six_Two> shyal, make sure the restricted drivers package is installed for your specific kernel
[22:54] <owner> yes
[22:54] <owner> I do
I do
[22:54] <superfirelord42> owner: awesome.... do you need help getting started, or are you going to just pop in when you have trouble with stuff..
[22:55] <Aquina> 'lo
[22:55] <owner> no looking to join the club and embrace the peguin
[22:55] <_xyz> help: after a fresh installation of 8.04 I have no more taskbar visible at the top of screen, only desktop.
 i mean penguin
[22:55] <superfirelord42> failure: you specify the location of the file via a argument to the boot parameters to the kernel
[22:55] <superfirelord42> owner: ok, hold on...
[22:55] <owner> ok
[22:56] <SebNaitsabes> _xyz_: have you got the bottom panel/bar?
[22:56] <_xyz> nope
[22:56] <_xyz> all i did was install all the newest updates + nvidia drivers and uninstalled Evolution (cause i don't need it)
[22:56] <superfirelord42> owner: can hte computer boot from usb and do you have a usb, it may be easier...
[22:57] <SebNaitsabes> _xyz_: weird you should have the top and bottom pannels after installing Ubuntu
[22:57] <owner> yes it has usb support
[22:57] <megasquid> can i isntall packages from the gutsy repository on sarge?
[22:57] <_xyz> sebNaitsabes: im using a strange setup where the Ubuntu is on an IDE HDD and has the grub loader and WinXP is on a Sata HDD
[22:57] <Lusule> what's the command to install the libc development package so i can compile my graphics driver?
[22:57] <SebNaitsabes> _xyx_:  so it could be a graphics card driver issue?
[22:57] <megasquid> i mean dapper
[22:57] <Seven_Six_Two> _xyz, does it appear if you try to move your mouse off the top of the screen?
[22:57] <owner> but no os at the moment
[22:57] <_xyz> seven_six_two: no
[22:57] <owner> only menuet
[22:57] <owner> os
[22:57] <orgthingy> any OTHER flash player?
[22:58] <superfirelord42> ok, hold on...
[22:58] <Seven_Six_Two> _xyz, I've had a similar problem, but it was because I ended up with a large virtual desktop
[22:58] <orgthingy> adobe's sucks
[22:58] <megasquid> can i isntall packages from the gutsy repository on dapper?
[22:58] <_xyz> sebNaitsabes: if it's an nvidia driver problem, how do I fix it?
[22:58] <SebNaitsabes> megasquid:  no don't do that
[22:58] <_xyz> seven_six_two: i don't think i set up anything like that
[22:58] <superfirelord42> owner: the main method thats easily avalible with ubuntu is hte etherboot floppy method...
[22:58] <owner> I know I try that after i got frustrated for three solid days
[22:58] <debCarlos> owner: How is it??? I have never tested it, but i like the things i read about that OS ..
[22:59] <megasquid> SebNaitsabes, im on dapper and i need to upgrade libgtk2, how should i do it?
[22:59] <Seven_Six_Two> _xyz, I didn't either. It was an upgrade that didn't do my xorg.conf properly
[22:59] <owner> its on a floppy
[22:59] <owner> one flppy
[22:59] <owner> can you believe that
[22:59] <SebNaitsabes> megasquid: yes you should be able to get from your dapper repo
[22:59] <_xyz> seven_six_two: how did your resolve that then?
[22:59] <owner> i have been playing with it all night long
[22:59] <superfirelord42> does that os have ethernet support?
[22:59] <Lusule> looking for help installing the libc development packages
[22:59] <owner> written in assembly
[22:59] <SebNaitsabes> megasquid: or if you already got the latest dapper one,  you should be able to get it from the net some where
[23:00] <Seven_Six_Two> _xyz, I used    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:00] <_xyz> seven_six_two: and how did you kown that the problem was with xserver?
[23:00] <superfirelord42> anyways, owner, the easiest ways are a floppy with etherboot, or a bigger usb using an alternate cd...
[23:00] <ivorybishop> anyone know what causes a dual monitor setup using KDE to have two desktops that you can open apps on and use them and NOT be able to move those apps from one monitor to another?
[23:00] <megasquid> SebNaitsabes, i already have the latest dapper one, i could get it from the net, but it has a lot of dependencies
[23:00] <owner> ok
[23:00] <megasquid> SebNaitsabes, the latest dapper one is 2.8 i need 2.12
[23:00] <SebNaitsabes> megasquid: well dapper is old why not just upgrade to Hardy?
[23:00] <Seven_Six_Two> _xyz, because everything graphical was out of whack. can you see the icons on your desktop?
[23:00] <owner> are you familiar with any of these methods
[23:01] <owner> say the etherboot
[23:01] <_xyz> bi
[23:01] <_xyz> no
[23:01] <SebNaitsabes> !info libgtk2
[23:01] <superfirelord42> owner, i know how to do the USB, etherboot isnt that hard, but means you must have another computer on your LAN.... USB just requires internet...
[23:01] <owner> I saw that yesturday and i was lost as quikly as i got excited
[23:02] <debCarlos> owner: I found this two links, they describe how to do floppy installation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies  try the first first.
[23:02] <Seven_Six_Two> _xyz, I don't use gnome, but can you right click on your desktop to run a command?
[23:02] <_xyz> Seven_Six_Two: i'll try that then. what's the shortcut for ubuntu cmd line?
[23:02] <_xyz> no
[23:02] <Seven_Six_Two> _xyz, try alt-f2 and run gnome-panel
[23:02] <owner> ok going there now
[23:02]  * KLmeet farts
[23:02] <_xyz> ok
[23:02] <superfirelord42> hehe, debCarlos, thats what i was looking for... i thought they got rid of it...
[23:03] <owner> do i need to do anything to the machine first
[23:03] <superfirelord42> ?
[23:03] <Logrusmage> Can someone help me set up MythTV? I'm getting a no upnp found error, and I think it has something to do with my multiple mysql.txt files (I have 8 of them) but I have no idea which of them are important.
[23:03] <Pici> !exploit
[23:03] <superfirelord42> owner: nope....
[23:03] <Pici> !feedthetroll
[23:04] <owner> leave everything as is
[23:04] <owner> I got this from the site what do you recommend
[23:04] <debCarlos> superfirelord42: yep :) But it doesn't work for Hardy...
[23:04] <superfirelord42> owner: the secound one i was looking at
[23:04] <superfirelord42> sorry, that was to debCarlos
[23:05] <owner> NOTE: This method is broken under Hardy. Technical details of the bug are here. If you need to do a netboot install then you must use an earlier distribution and then upgrade to Hardy once the earlier distribution is installed.
[23:05] <zcat[1]> problem; have a linux box I want to use for a squid proxy .. dmesg is reporting that the drive and mobo support ata100 but no 80-conductor cable so it's runing at ata33. I've added 'ide0=ata66' to the kernel options, doesn't fix the problem. any other ideas?
[23:05] <superfirelord42> owner, look at the second one...
[23:05] <owner> ok
[23:05] <superfirelord42> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies
[23:05] <arooni> how can i get my windows mobile phone registered with ubuntu?  it seems to be randomly disconnecting (even though i dont want it to) http://pastie.org/235214
[23:05] <zcat[1]> btw it is an 80-conductor cable, of course..
[23:05] <owner> SmartBootManager.?
[23:06] <zcat[1]> going to try a different cable today, but using 'ide0=ata66' should override it anyhow. but it doesn't?
[23:06] <superfirelord42> owner, i will look at that...
[23:06] <zd> jh
[23:06] <owner> ok
[23:06] <Yacht> does anybody know if there's anything i can do to make my laptop not overheat so badly while its running ubuntu? i have a G4 PPC running at 1.3 GHz
[23:06] <superfirelord42> owner: nope, that wont work for you
[23:06] <Yacht> and from no activity at all, it gets as hot as the sun
[23:06] <owner> ok thanx
[23:07] <Lusule> now everything's calmed down again, could anyone please help me install libc dev stuff so i can install my graphics card?
[23:07] <superfirelord42> owner: thats for people who cannot boot from cd, but have a cd drive...
[23:07] <superfirelord42> owner, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies
[23:07] <owner> i did alot of going arround so i am kinda cof right now
[23:07] <owner> hopefully you can lead me aroound
[23:07] <shyal> seven_six_two: thanks I tried but it still says "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[23:07] <debCarlos> owner: superfirelord42 is right, you should go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies
[23:08] <shyal> uname -r: 2.6.24-19-generic
[23:08] <owner> u mean use SmartBootManager.
[23:08] <rapha_> Hi again
[23:08] <rapha_> How can I see the CPU temp under Hardy?
[23:08] <shyal> and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-19-generic is installed
[23:08] <superfirelord42> no, SmartBootManager is diffrent, this is to just the boot floppies
[23:08] <SebNaitsabes> rapha_: easy
[23:09] <zcat[1]> !b-e | shyal
[23:09] <SebNaitsabes> rapha_:  you can add things to your panel to do with your hardware
[23:09] <rapha_> SebNaitsabes: Yeah, but _what_ thing
[23:09] <owner> ok the network connection
[23:09] <ivorybishop> sorry, i got booted from the channel for a sec
[23:09] <Yacht> i am running ubuntu on a G4 PowerPC, and ever since i started running ubuntu on it, my laptop overheats with no activity at all
[23:09] <owner> anyhelp
[23:09] <zcat[1]> shyal: mostly the metapackage you want is build-essential, that will get the libc stuff, kernel headers, make, gcc, etc for you
[23:09] <Yacht> is there anything i can do to remedy this?
[23:09] <SebNaitsabes> rapha_:  CPU  thingey you will see
[23:10] <superfirelord42> owner: yeah... go ahead and get the images from http://ftp.egr.msu.edu/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current//images/floppy/
[23:10] <shyal> let me reiterate my problem: I uninstalled envy, now the restricted drivers manager won't display the nvidia drivers
[23:10] <SebNaitsabes> rapha_:  yes the one that starts with CPU in the name should be scaling monitor
[23:10] <rapha_> SebNaitsabes: doesn't work with my CPU. I also only want the _temp_
[23:10] <ivorybishop> anyone have any idea how to fix the problem of having dual monitor setup in kde on hardy, both monitors can have programs opened on them but I cannot move those apps to the opposite monitor, only the mouse
[23:10] <Lusule> shyal - what graphics card have you got?
[23:10] <zcat[1]> shyal: did it do that before?
[23:10] <R0t> Is there a way to completely remove Grub from my system, I have XP and Ubuntu. I accidentally installed Grub to the MBR and to my second drive. Thanks for any help
[23:10] <owner> name rec files pls
[23:11] <superfirelord42> owner: boot.img root.img net-drivers.img
[23:11] <SebNaitsabes> R0t:  yes let Windows fix it's boot loader and bye bye Grub
[23:11] <shyal> lspci | grep -i nvidia: nVidia Corporation NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4600] (rev a3)
[23:11] <owner> thanks
[23:11] <zcat[1]> shyal: some very recent cards aren't known to ubuntu.. but of course if it used to show you the driver than that wouldn't be your problem. Have you rebooted since uninstalling envy?
[23:11] <SebNaitsabes> R0t: fix with Windows CD
[23:11] <R0t> I used the CD and told it to fixmbr (i think is the command), but grub is still there >.<
[23:11] <owner> one floppy each
[23:12] <stiev> Yacht: have you looked at this: http://www.schlesinger.us/?p=412 ? Also, check what processes are running and remove any unecessary ones (such as bluetooth)
[23:12] <shyal> zcat[1]: i have rebooted
[23:12] <SebNaitsabes> R0t: ask in #windows since this is really a Windows issue
[23:12] <R0t> Ok
[23:12] <superfirelord42> owner: correct...
[23:13] <owner> ok
[23:13] <owner> on it
[23:13] <zcat[1]> shyal: open a terminal and 'sudo apt-get autoremove', there may be other packages that envy depended on that weren't cleaned up? also 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new' will go ahead and install the drivers weather or not restricted-drivers-manager thinks you need them... which might solve the problem for you
[23:14] <Guest17651> Hello. GParted is telling me that it can't see my FAT32 partition which has some very important files on it. Could someone please help me  to mount it?
[23:14] <chao1> hello. I have an issue with my ubuntu install. I installed vmware server via the how to forge website. I forced it to close and stayed logged in and surfed the net. then upon restart i received error 17 from grub. is there any way that I can either get it back running or at least recover my files in /home?
[23:14] <Mathias> Moin Moin
[23:14] <SebNaitsabes> !mount
[23:14] <lucas_> hello... I need skype, amsn and xorg repositories for ubuntu... where can i find them??
[23:14] <stiev> Yacht: Did you go to the link I sent you?
[23:14] <owner> for the network
[23:14] <zcat[1]> !grub | chao1
[23:14] <SebNaitsabes> Guest17651: has this partion been iused in Windows?
[23:14] <Slart> !skype | lucas_
[23:15] <Logrusmage> It appears when trying to set up Mythtv, I've discovered the mythconverg database does not exist... wth do I do?
[23:15] <Driv3r912> lucas_, you want Skype software for Ubuntu?
[23:15] <owner> i have a wireless router with two machines online
[23:15] <Guest17651> SebNaitsabes: Yes.
[23:15] <ivorybishop> skype.xom
[23:15] <_xyz> Seven_Six_Two: I went into root shell interface, typed in the command, went through a bunch of menus (mostly about keyboard layout?), rebooted, same thing
[23:15] <ivorybishop> skype.com even
[23:15] <deviantintegral> it looks like the sky2 driver is missing from the initrd image in 8.04's cd? It's preventing me from mounting root via nfs...
[23:15] <R0t> Heh, i've figured out what is wrong. Now I need a recommendation, what would be a good partition editor to use? (just have to format)
[23:15] <owner> one wired and ther other wirless
[23:15] <ivorybishop> i am running the linux version and its pretty good
[23:15] <SebNaitsabes> Guest17651: I think it's the same for FAT32 as NTFS.  they must be shut down properly in Windows.  that's a re boot or a shut down of the computer. otherwise when you try access them in Linux there will be an issue
[23:15] <lucas_> Driv3r912, yeah but i want the repos for using with apt and the amsn svn and xorg for lastest drivers
[23:15] <superfirelord42> owner: do you have rawwrite or dd for windows?
[23:15] <chao1> well i installed ubuntu on another free partition and it does not know what filesystem my fried partition is.
[23:16] <chao1> it is ext3
[23:16] <zcat[1]> I tried skype last week.. three days of spam chats every 15 minutes, even though I had it set to deny chats unless I authorised them first. And it turns out that all my friends who were using skype have also given up on it so I couldn't find anybody to talk to anyhow!
[23:16] <Guest17651> SebNaitsabes: What can I do? I badly need to access it (it worked in Ubuntu before).
[23:16] <owner> no i have  winrar
[23:16] <superfirelord42> not win rar
[23:16] <_xyz> help: After fresh 8.04 installation + updates + nvidia gfx drivers, I get no taskbar at the top, only a blank desktop!
[23:16] <owner> is that the same
[23:16] <SebNaitsabes> SebNaitsabes: was Windows shut down or re booted?
[23:16] <ivorybishop> skype is having some issues
[23:16] <cyberwolf> hello, what's the smartest install cd to imac 233MHz 160MB ram ? :)
[23:16] <SebNaitsabes> SebNaitsabes: properly last time it was used
[23:16] <Driv3r912> Using sudo and your favorite text editor, add this line to the end of your /etc/apt/sources.list file:
[23:16] <Driv3r912> deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[23:16] <Logrusmage> Ok I'm have some serious mysql trouble here, can anyone help me?
[23:16] <ivorybishop> turning off any skype ports in your router will help
[23:16] <chao1> i assume that this is not actually a grub issue but a ext3 corruption
[23:17] <ivorybishop> but not entirely curtail those dumb chat requests
[23:17] <soycheli> buenas a todos
[23:17] <zcat[1]> skype == teh suck. Use ekiga on sipphone.com, get your windows friends to install gizmoproject. It's just like skype except using the open SIP protocol
[23:17] <SebNaitsabes> Guest17651: in Ubuntu is the parttion detected, but you can't access it?
[23:17] <ivorybishop> does ekiga have incoming numbers regular landlines can call?
[23:17] <soycheli> anybody here spanish?
[23:17] <owner> no i have  winrar
[23:17] <gordonjcp> ivorybishop: it can do
[23:17] <SebNaitsabes> !es
[23:17] <owner> is that the same
[23:17] <zcat[1]> ivorybishop: sipphone does
[23:17] <ivorybishop> skype does
[23:17] <Thybo> how do you do to have the virtual desktop change when you approach the mouse from the border??.. cannot find the setting? :s
[23:17] <gordonjcp> ivorybishop: it's just a voip client
[23:18] <ivorybishop> sweetness
[23:18] <cyberwolf> is ubuntu-7.04-alternate-powerpc.iso good or what ?
[23:18] <Driv3r912> Then run apt-get update to sync to the latest repository and
[23:18] <Driv3r912> apt-get install skype to install the latest version of Skype on your computer.
[23:18] <ivorybishop> i gotta liook into that then
[23:18] <deviantintegral> it also seems like the driver is missing from the alternate CD, so I can't install from the net? anyone know why it's in the install but not in the live cd?
[23:18] <gordonjcp> ivorybishop: you can set up a voip number and connect ekiga to it
[23:18] <ivorybishop> xcause skype is teh suxxor and i have been stressing over it
[23:18] <gordonjcp> ivorybishop: if you're really hardcore you can set up asterisk and run your own PABX
[23:18] <superfirelord42> owner: no, you do not need winrar, its for archiving, you need a dd or rawwrite tool...
[23:18] <ivorybishop> wow, thanks
[23:18] <Guest17651> SebNaitsabes: It was shut down and removed several months ago. It was working in Ubuntu until I reinstalled it. Gparted said that it could not detect it.
[23:18] <chao1> does an one know how to get files back from a corrupted file system?
[23:18] <superfirelord42> owner, let me link you  to it...
[23:18] <chao1> i need my files
[23:18] <ivorybishop> i am not that hardcore. lol
[23:18] <Driv3r912> did you get that lucas_?
[23:18] <zcat[1]> ekiga is just the client. You can use MANY different providers.. sipphone, free world dialup, chances are even your ISP can provide your home phone over SIP if you know who to ask..
[23:18] <ivorybishop> altho the thot has crossed me mind oncst or twiced
[23:18] <owner> thanks
[23:19] <peaces> is there a way to search package descriptions in aptitude?
[23:19] <ivorybishop> hmmm
[23:19] <owner> fpor the enlightnment
[23:19] <gordonjcp> ivorybishop: it's worth a shot - steep learning curve but great for messing with telemarketers
[23:19] <zcat[1]> plenty of providers can sell you a dialin number and/or dialout capability.
[23:19] <chao1> I have to leave but just send any help to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:19] <ivorybishop> heheh
[23:19] <ivorybishop> ok, now i am intrigued
[23:19] <ivorybishop> lol
[23:19] <lucas_> Driv3r912, sorry man what did u say?? i was googlin
[23:19] <ivorybishop> valdosta ga?
[23:19] <gordonjcp> ivorybishop: get a number that looks like a normal mobile number, but costs 50p/minute, route it through your asterisk server, and then put it on some "consumer survey" forms
[23:19] <cyberwolf> anyone here with imac 233MHz? :)
[23:20] <Driv3r912> scroll up a bit for a description on how to add the Skype Repos and to get the latest version
[23:20] <ivorybishop> hahaha
[23:20] <bleck> how do I stop a network card from autoconfiguring itself? its not in /etc/network/interfaces, yet it brings itself up, then aquires a dhcp address automatically.
[23:20] <ivorybishop> thats just evil
[23:20] <ivorybishop> i like it
[23:20] <gordonjcp> ivorybishop: then when they ring it, "Oh, what?  Yes I *am* interested in new double glazing, can I just get you on the other phone?  It's a bit noisy here..." <park call> and then wait...
[23:20] <ivorybishop> hahhahaha
[23:20] <gordonjcp> ivorybishop: my record is 8 minutes 23 seconds
[23:20] <bleck> even if I ifconfig eth0 down, it brings itself back up?!
[23:20] <ivorybishop> are you banking some cash each month?
[23:20] <superfirelord42> owner: go to ftp://ftp.bg.debian.org/debian/tools/rawrite2.zip and unzip the files... basicly they must all be in one directory... run rawwrite.exe
[23:20] <lucas_> Driv3r912, got it... thank you very much
[23:20] <shyal> zcat[1]: thanks, tried that, still no love
[23:21] <Driv3r912> No problem, good luck!
[23:21] <superfirelord42> owner: it allows you to write hte images to the floppy
[23:21] <ivorybishop> gordonjcp: you are a monster :)
[23:21] <gordonjcp> ivorybishop: 8:23, or nearly three times through Joy Division - "Love Will Tear Us Apart", which was my hold music
[23:21] <Logrusmage> Can anyone help me w/ Mythtv mysql related problems???
[23:21] <ivorybishop> gordonjcp: hahaha
[23:21] <Thybo> anyone nkows how to flip workspaces when getting mouse close to the edge?
[23:21] <Soul_Sample> i've lost the ability to run many games in full screen (those who are not running on my desktop's resolution) after setting my twin view, any ideas on how to fix it?
[23:22] <owner> ok
[23:22] <stiev> bleck: have you looked at this: http://codesnippets.joyent.com/posts/show/319 ?
[23:22] <zcat[1]> shyal: nvidia drivers can be a pita if you switch between envy, regular packages and binary installer. They never clean up after themselves properly which breaks any other driver trying to replace them
[23:22] <bleck> Thybo: its in the awn, maybe under general or cube
[23:22] <Codenut> how much ram do I need to do a text mode install of Ubuntu?
[23:22] <ivorybishop> zcat[1]: that may be part of my problem
[23:22] <owner> so what you are soing is that the previous three should be in the place as this new one
[23:22] <goldenpockets> where is the "fonts" folder
[23:23] <ivorybishop> zcat[1]: didnt know the drivers wouldnt clean themselves up
[23:23] <emet> Codenut: 64 MB should be enough
[23:23] <bleck> stiev: I want it to stay down, not come up.
[23:23] <ivorybishop> zcat[1]: is there a directory they are all stored in that could be wipe before installing new ones?
[23:23] <bleck> stiev: its not in /etc/network/interfaces at all.
[23:23] <naruttebayo> Hi. I just configured my gmail account with Thunderbird and I need it to get all my messages from the account but it's only grabbing the new ones. How can I make it get the read messages too?
[23:23] <bleck> stiev: unless there's a NoAuto eth0 command or soemthing
[23:23] <bleck> something
[23:23] <lucas_> where can i find usplash themes besides gnome look?
[23:23] <spooge> hi
[23:24] <ivorybishop> naruttebayo: i think you have to set that up in the gmail settings in your account.
[23:24] <legend2440> !fonts : goldenpockets
[23:24] <zcat[1]> ivorybishop: the binary installer is the worst; there's a proper uninstall process you follow. If you don't do that, nothing else will ever work until you track down all the mismatched .so's and delete them. Probably easier to just reinstall!
[23:24] <goldenpockets> where can i find the fonts folder?
[23:24] <Codenut> what is the best text mode email program?
[23:24] <goldenpockets> thanks
[23:24] <spooge> i'm having trouble with suspend/hibernate
[23:24] <spooge> http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_7.10/Issues/8400M_Suspend_Hibernate-Failure
[23:24] <spooge> how do i run this script?
[23:24] <spooge> in terminal?
[23:24] <stiev> bleck: are you doing this from the command line?
[23:24] <ivorybishop> zcat[1]: oh my, i have installed and reinstalled several times trying to get my stuff right, no wonder its crapping out on me.
[23:25] <Soul_Sample> is there a scientific explanation why torrents that are not a single file (example movie) download slower than the single filed ones? are there any ways to increase download speed in transmission client? maybe some tricks on how to set up peer numbers, connections, ports and such?
[23:25] <goldenpockets> where must i write !fonts? terminal?
[23:25] <stiev> bleck: you should just be able to comment out the eth0 line, so that it shows "# eth0" (without quotes)
[23:25] <zcat[1]> ivorybishop: I did file a bug somewhere, but there's SFA ubuntu can really do since it's propriatory software. And the package deleting the stray .so's would violate the principle that packages _never_ mess with other package's files..
[23:25] <Codenut> thanks all, I am going to try googleing my question
[23:25] <bleck> stiev: yeah
[23:25] <legend2440> goldenpockets: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[23:25] <ivorybishop> zcat[1]: that makes sense
[23:25] <bleck> stiev: /etc/network/interfaces doesn't have an eth0 at all.
[23:25] <therealnanotube> Codenut: try mutt, or alpine
[23:26] <stiev> bleck: but it is coming up and acquiring an address?
[23:26] <owner> are you here
[23:26] <bleck> stiev: yes. nfi why.
[23:26] <superfirelord42_> owner: my client crashed....
[23:26] <owner> sorry
[23:26] <debCarlos> owner: Hi! How are you going with the installation?
[23:26] <superfirelord42_> owner: np, im using an alternate
[23:26] <bleck> stiev: i've used linux for about 8 years, but haven't come across this.
[23:26] <superfirelord42_> debCarlos: gets getting the tools
[23:26] <owner> i need some expl of your las stament
[23:26] <Logrusmage> Please; looking of rhelp with mysql related issue in mythtv.   I can alt-tab from screen to screen, though.
[23:27] <stiev> bleck: what interfaces do you see in the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[23:27] <owner> we shall see
[23:27] <superfirelord42_> you still need the floppies though from the site...
[23:27] <zcat[1]> so nobody knows about mobos that can't tell ata33 from ata100-capable cables?
[23:27] <owner> what happens
[23:27] <keri> hello, i have a question
[23:27] <owner> I know I want it Bab
[23:27] <debCarlos> superfirelord42_: oh, ok . owner: :)
[23:27] <owner> bad
[23:27] <FloodBot1> owner: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:27] <joshual> hey folks, does anyone know how to extract images from a swf?
[23:27] <em_> all I see in my interfaces file is the LO   the real info must be elsewhere
[23:27] <pvl1> where is the trash dir?
[23:27] <goldenpockets> legend 2440 thanks
[23:28] <bleck> stiev: well, theres a bridge and tap0 set up, but they are used for different things..
[23:28] <superfirelord42_> owner: basicly, the images contain your boot sector and everything you need to make the floppies... rawwrite allows you to write it instead of just sticking it on the floppy
[23:28] <stiev> bleck: and those are the only ones?
[23:28] <em_> trash is a hidden file in the root of each disk TRASH-0
[23:28] <linxeh> joshual: swfextract?
[23:28] <therealnanotube> joshual: if it's just one or two images... take screenshots, that's the easiest :)
[23:28] <linxeh> joshual: (swftools package)
[23:28] <keri> i would like to download music and does anyone know what program i can use
[23:29] <linxeh> keri: iTunes ?
[23:29] <therealnanotube> keri: firefox?
[23:29] <bleck> stiev: so basically, an "auto  lo tap0 br0" and the accompanying three iface lines (for l0 br0 and eth0
[23:29] <joshual> linxeh: yeah I'm trying to with swfextract... cant figure it out
[23:29] <linxeh> keri: firefox, wget, azureus, etc ?
[23:29] <joshual> even reading man
[23:29] <owner> ok i make a folder put all these files inthere with rarwrite and then run it?
[23:29] <superfirelord42_> owner: have you downloaded the files?
[23:29] <peaces> i am about to do a bare-bones install of ubuntu with fluxbox, i  plan on using firefox3, mrxvt, evince, mplayer, irssi, some  games and other stuff. i would like pretty fonts like i have in  standard ubuntu now, will msttcorefonts packge be what i need?
[23:29] <linxeh> joshual: http://www.swftools.org/
[23:29] <ivorybishop> question : anyone have any idea how to fix the problem of having dual monitor setup in kde on hardy, both monitors can have programs opened on them but I cannot move those apps to the opposite monitor? ( only the mouse moves from monitor to monitor without issue)
[23:29] <Thybo> bleck, what is the awn? :p
[23:29] <owner> hld doing it on ther machine
[23:29] <bleck> stiev: thought it might be a kernel thing or like an automount util for devices
[23:29] <superfirelord42_> owner: open rawrite2....
[23:29] <bleck> Thybo: one sec.
[23:30] <keri> i can scan, download and burn cd
[23:30] <spooge> hi
[23:30] <linxeh> keri: what music ?
[23:30] <EnMasse187> hi, are there any working nintendo ds emulators for linux, i've heard desmume works, it needs gtk, i installed it and try to run it but on startup it closes...
[23:30] <spooge> could someone help with a suspend/hibernate issue?
[23:30] <keri> any music u want to find
[23:30] <spooge> http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_7.10/Issues/8400M_Suspend_Hibernate-Failure
[23:30] <spooge> how do i run that script?
[23:30] <spooge> terminal?
[23:30] <spooge> thanks
[23:30] <linxeh> keri: well, most music has licencing fees. we have this concept known as "buying"
[23:30] <FloodBot1> spooge: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:31] <spooge> oops
[23:31] <EnMasse187> hi, are there any working nintendo ds emulators for linux, i've heard desmume works, it needs gtk, i installed it and try to run it but on startup it closes...
[23:31] <EnMasse187> anyone know of a working nds emulator?
[23:31] <owner> ok I sec Plz Starting up other machine ift has the floppy drive in it
[23:31] <linxeh> EnMasse187: ask once...
[23:31] <dedi_> anyone using thinkfinger?
[23:31] <EnMasse187> linxeh: sorry :)
[23:32] <debCarlos> EnMasse187: i think you could try with Wine and no$gba... google can help you too
[23:32] <davidh1983> question: this might seem dumb question to some..but I just got rid if windows......and decided to experiment with freebsd on the partition I have win vista on... but when freebsg installed it overrode GRUB with BSD loader and it wont load up ubuntu anymore.....
[23:32] <stiev> bleck: Could you paste your config at http://paste.ubuntu.com and enter the link?
[23:32] <keri> ty for some places to look
[23:32] <bleck> Thybo: run ccsm
[23:32] <ivorybishop> whats the terminal clear screen command?
[23:32] <lucas_> is it possible to run an installed windows system on ubuntu??
[23:32] <owner> should i extract it first
[23:32] <davidh1983> so i reinstalled GRUB with repair disc and it works for ubuntu now...but now I cannot get grub to recognize freebsd
[23:32] <owner> in in win rar
[23:32] <superfirelord42_> extract what?
[23:32] <lildonkey> una pregunta
[23:33] <EnMasse187> debCarlos: does that do NINTENDO DS?
[23:33] <davidh1983> is there a way to configure grub to see freebsd?
[23:33] <EnMasse187> i need a working emulator FOR NINTENDO DS...
[23:33] <Thybo> bleck, ok installing it first :)
[23:33] <em_> ive got vmware console server  running, but can't reach the internet.  host and guest can ping each other just fine,  but the packets from the guest get stopped somehow.  is there a firewall I need to configure?  any suggestions?
[23:33] <linxeh> lucas_: try virtualbox or qemu perhaps
[23:33] <debCarlos> EnMasse187: Yep, no$gba is a gba/nds emulator.
[23:33] <lildonkey> como hago para redimencionar mi disco duro
[23:33] <superfirelord42_> owner: boot.img?
[23:33] <owner> oh ur color changed
[23:33] <EnMasse187> kk
[23:33] <EnMasse187> thanks
[23:33] <owner> good now i see you
[23:33] <stiev> ivorybishop: "clear"
[23:33] <superfirelord42_> ?
[23:33] <lildonkey> lo que pasa que mi disco duro es de 100 gb
[23:33] <linxeh> EnMasse187: dood, you dont need to keep repeating...
[23:33] <Pici> !es | lildonkey
[23:33] <debCarlos> lildonkey: Ve a #ubuntu-es para recibir ayuda, en este canal solo hablamos ingles :)
[23:34] <Gustavo> Hello . I tried to transfer 2GB to my pendrive, but it was TOO slow!!!! 40KB per second!!!!! Man, it would take days! I searched o google and found that there can where this usb being find (i.e. /dev/usb/xxxx/sda1) If it is find on /dev/sda1 it would be faster..... does anybody know something about that?
[23:34] <em_> I dont understand the facination with virtualbox, for one thing it is a crippled program you must pay to get basic functionality like USB
[23:34] <bobertdos> lildonkey: Hay que utilizar gparted o un programa similar.
[23:34] <bleck> stiev: http://paste.ubuntu.com/27863/
[23:34] <owner> oh ok
[23:34] <ivorybishop> Gustavo: sounds like you have an older usb port. usb 1.1 or so
[23:35] <linxeh> em_: most of that functionality is making its way back into the open source part over time
[23:35] <lildonkey> pero por error monte ubuntu en solo 6 gb
[23:35] <lildonkey> ahora no tengo espacio suficiente
[23:35] <lildonkey> que puedo hacer
[23:35] <bleck> stiev: so the only thing there that indicates eth0 is iface br0, but I don't know how to stop eth0 getting a route or even an IP
[23:35] <purplestar> lildonkey: how little?
[23:35] <keri> i use firefox, looking for a program that i can use to scan, download music
[23:35] <superfirelord42_> owner: any luck?
[23:35] <ivorybishop> lildonkey: no hable espanol
[23:35] <purplestar> bleck: why do you call people bro?
[23:35] <owner> I sec PLz
[23:35] <shyal> zcat[1]: crud, I guess I'll just back to envy
[23:35] <superfirelord42_> !es
[23:35] <Gustavo> ivorybishop: no, quite new. the usb port and the usb stick. it seems to be a kernel parameter - if MASS STORAGE then SLOW
[23:35] <debCarlos> lildonkey: Deberias ir a #ubuntu-es , solo escribe /join #ubuntu-es .
[23:35] <ivorybishop> purplestar: maybe he is being friendly?
[23:35] <purplestar> !es | lildonkey
[23:36] <Yacht> can anyone help me? ever since i installed Hardy Heron on my G4 PowerPC, it overheats during no activity at all. i feel the laptop casing get extremely hot, and while running on Battery Power, it shuts off after about 10 minutes. Any ideas?
[23:36] <bleck> stiev: I guess the bridge is bringing up the route, but don't know why its getting dhcp
[23:36] <owner> got the classic slow computer symdrome
[23:36] <bleck> purplestar: ?
[23:36] <em_> linxeh: well thats great, but meanwhile vmware already delivers massive functionality and work very well.
[23:36] <ivorybishop> Gustavo: ahh. i havent experienced that
[23:36] <Thybo> bleck, thank you very much :)
[23:36] <ivorybishop> Gustavo: sounds like a mount command job tho
[23:36] <superfirelord42_> owner: did it start on hte floppy?
[23:36] <bleck> stiev: I said that wrong... i guess the bridge is bringing up the interface, but don't know why its getting dhcp
[23:36] <Thybo> any tool to set manually cpu speed?
 do u know any info source?
[23:36] <hmuller> Just checking to see if anyone else is having problems with suspend / hibernate after today's kernel updates?
[23:36] <bobertdos> lildonkey: Supongo que tendra que utilizar un disco vive para hacerlo.
[23:36] <linxeh> em_: then use vmware. in the mean time we can use vmware and take the risk of losing the player at any time
[23:36] <bleck> Thybo: no prob.
[23:37] <superfirelord42> better... im on the correct client
[23:37] <Pici> !en | bobertdos lildonkey
[23:37] <ivorybishop> Gustavo: google would be my first choice, ubuntuforums.org my 2nd, I am a noob. :)
[23:37] <owner> hld i will be moving to the other machine since it has the floppy dive plase bare with me
[23:37] <lildonkey> lo que no quiero es perder toda mi conf
[23:37] <rapid> ubuntu just rebooted on me :|
[23:37] <lildonkey> porque me gusto instalar driver
[23:37] <ivorybishop> ouch
[23:37] <Gustavo> ivorybishop: this device is "automounted"
[23:37] <em_> linxeh: what do you mean by losing the vmware player?
[23:37] <nanowitch> #ubuntu-fr
[23:38] <Gustavo> have to leave.... thanks
[23:38] <Vindiou22> hi
[23:38] <dave_durant> Hi. I've lost all my USB devices following the last round of updates. Has anyone else had that happen? Any ideas on how to fix? Thanks.
[23:38] <ivorybishop> Gustavo: ahh, i see, but you can mount already mounted filesystems, or i think i read it somewhere. thats where you give it the sda or sda1 thing. I am a noob and therefore clueless. :)
[23:39] <owner> quick Q will unbiuntu support my wireless card?
[23:39] <ivorybishop> USB is such a finicky mistress sometimes too
[23:39] <mneptok> owner: quick answer. maybe.
[23:39] <zaapiel> no hablo jibber jabber
[23:39] <superfirelord42> owner: should....
[23:39] <purplestar> can cookies cause my Ubuntu any troubles?  Are they a security risk to my PC?
[23:39] <iCEifer> hello, how can I prevent a process that I installed from running automatically on boot? It runs before gnome loads
[23:39] <owner> linksys
[23:39] <superfirelord42> owner: are you installing on a machine with a wireless card or a wired connection?
[23:39] <ivorybishop> owner: if it comes with linux drivers, there is a good chance, if not, there is a chance lol
[23:39] <debCarlos> owner: It should support it....
[23:39] <unop> iCEifer, what is the process?
[23:39] <bobertdos> purplestar: not nearly as many as there would be in Windows, plus, you can always clear them
[23:40] <superfirelord42> debCarlos: does the installer support wireless though...
[23:40] <MystaMax> hello. I i just updated my PC w/ the latest kernels, but grub isn't showing it. So, I ran "sudo update-grub". It told me it updated grub w/ the new entries, but they are not reflected when I reboot? Any ideas?
[23:40] <iCEifer> anyone know how I can change the size of the icons on the desktop and fonts overall? everything looks kinda big even at 1024x738.
[23:40] <ivorybishop> owner: linksys has been very friendly under linux for me
[23:40] <bleck> actually, yeah.. is there a sysv config util in ubuntu?
[23:40] <mneptok> owner: ignore anyone saying "should." there is no way to make such an assessment accurately without knowing the card's chipset model and vendor.
[23:40] <bleck> or still using update-rc.d?
[23:40] <em_> purplestar: the only thing a cookie can do is invade your privacy by enabling a site to track you as an individule, there is a lot of hysteria about cookies which is not based on fact
[23:40] <owner> cos i really love this pc that i am putting ubuntu on i want to use it as my prmary machine
[23:40] <superfirelord42> mneptok: ok, fine, may
[23:40] <unop> bleck, you can use either
[23:40] <mneptok> owner: who makes the the chipset on the card?
[23:40] <purplestar> bobertdos: but I cannot clear them all, because some cookies I need to auto login in to some websites.  Is there a cookie cleaner for Ubuntu Firefox that allows me to tell it not to clear some cookies?
[23:41] <ivorybishop> mneptok: he said linksys, thats half your equation, most of the newer stuff is supported
[23:41] <owner> u know take iy every where it light wietght
[23:41] <debCarlos> superfirelord42: oh... i don't know it... i said it because my Ubuntu recognized it... but after, not IN the installation...
[23:41] <mneptok> owner: (hint, Linksys does nto make wireless chipsets)
[23:41] <bleck> unop: where's the util?
[23:41] <superfirelord42> owner: do you have a wired plug you can use for hte install?
[23:41] <stiev> bleck: I'm not an expert at this, but it seems that you are creating a bridge port on eth0, correct? And with the bridged port, you are defining one side, but not the other. Have you tried setting eth0 as a static address?
[23:41] <mneptok> ivorybishop: Linksys does not make chipsets
[23:41] <purplestar> em_: what are your security and IT qualifications to make that statement?  And what research have you conducted into this issue?
[23:41] <owner> wired plug
[23:41] <owner> ?
[23:41] <bobertdos> purplestar: perhaps.......take a look around Synaptic, see what you can find
[23:41] <superfirelord42> owner: are you going to be doing the install wireless?
[23:41] <em_> owner: so far I have tried ubuntu with 3 different wireless cards,  two of them work, and the thrid does not -- but it almost works and with enough fiddling will probably work maybe
[23:41] <ivorybishop> mneptok: dude, your being pedantic, hes not trying to setup a chipset, just a linksys card
[23:41] <purplestar> some cookies I need to auto login in to some websites.  Is there a cookie cleaner for Ubuntu Firefox that allows me to tell it not to clear some cookies?
[23:42] <unop> bleck, you mean sysv-rc-conf ?
[23:42] <superfirelord42> ivorybishop: but the problem is, the chipset does mater, the same brand can have incompatible chipsets...
[23:42] <bleck> stiev: basically, a bridge is made for tap0 and br0 on eth0, so br0 gets an ip, and tap0 gets an ip, but eth0 shouldn't, because its no longer seen.
[23:42] <purplestar> !cookie cleaners
[23:42] <iCEifer> unop, tor
[23:42] <mneptok> ivorybishop: i'm not being pedantic. i'm being accurate. there are Linksys cards with Broadcom chipsets that will not owrk in Linux. there are Linksys cards with Atheros chips that will.
[23:42] <purplestar> !cookie
[23:42] <bleck> stiev: thanks for your help, i'll see what i can dig up on google
[23:43] <ivorybishop> the dude asked a basic, vague question and was given a answer which matched
[23:43] <unop> iCEifer, sudo update-rc.d tor -f remove
[23:43] <owner> no i will use wire
[23:43] <ivorybishop> lol
[23:43] <bleck> unop: very possibly, will check it out, thanks
[23:43] <dena> i just installed ubuntu 8.04 and i don't have fancy progress bars... how do i enable them?
[23:43] <owner> but once i am done I want to be abkle to run free with the laptop
[23:43] <ivorybishop> anything else is just arguing for the sake ot it
[23:43] <owner> and mywirless card
[23:43] <stiev> bleck: yeah, keep looking around. I thought the problem was simpler than this. Are you running Qemu?
[23:43] <unop> iCEifer, actually    sudo update-rc.d -f tor remove
[23:43] <mneptok> owner: what exact model is the card?
[23:43] <bleck> iCEifer: that will remove it from starting altogether (eg: you can still manually start it)
[23:43] <superfirelord42> owner: bassicly, i can garuntee the installer wont work on your wireless... what model laptop is it... we can search to find out if hte wifi or laptop is supported...
[23:43] <owner> hld a sec
[23:44] <debCarlos> owner: After the installation, it will run ok, i guess...
[23:44] <purplestar> some cookies I need to auto login in to some websites.  Is there a cookie cleaner for Ubuntu Firefox that allows me to tell it not to clear some cookies?
[23:44] <em_> purplestar: I am a systems level programmer with about 20 years of experience include writing a mini web server  but dont take my work for it.  try the apache docs or otherwise google.  the actual fact is that a cookie is only a text file and nothing more.  and it can onlyl contain a small text string at that. usually it is given an id number which can be used to track your browser uniquieuely
[23:44] <superfirelord42> owner: wait, an external or internal card...
[23:44] <bleck> stiev: the bridge is setup for virtualbox to use tap0
[23:44] <mneptok> owner: since it's Linksys and this is a laptop, is this a Cardbus or ExpressCard?
[23:44] <bleck> stiev: I don't know what qemu is
[23:44] <iCEifer> unop, bleck, thanks....when I did that it prints out the usage as if it didn't do it?
[23:44] <iCEifer> nm
[23:44] <superfirelord42> oh yeah, forgot, linksys doesnt do intergrated...
[23:45] <iCEifer> thanks :)
[23:45] <owner> linksys wireless g model no. wpc54g
[23:45] <dena> i just installed ubuntu 8.04 and i don't have fancy progress bars my friend has fancy progress bars and the app/places/system drop downs have an orange side-bar... how do i get this on my pc?
[23:45] <docjay> Hey- could someone give me a hand installing a driver?  its a USB transciever @ iguanaworks.net - I'm running into some trouble
[23:45] <em_> purplestar: goto the firefox addons site there are about half a doze that will do what you want
[23:45] <purplestar> em_: where?
[23:45] <ivorybishop> hehe now someone needs to know more than the vendor and chipset innocent whistle
[23:45] <iCEifer> any ideas how I can change the size of the desktop icons in gnome?
[23:45] <onikos> I'm kind of playing with the thought of starting to read about adding packages for ubuntu.
[23:45] <iCEifer> and overall text/font sizes
[23:45] <bleck> dena: a theme?
[23:46] <dena> bleck, it was his default theme and i don't see it as default on mine...
[23:46] <mneptok> owner: Cardbus? v7?
[23:46] <bobertdos> iCEifer: You originally wanted to raise the screen resolution, didn't you?
[23:46] <purplestar> where are firefox cookies stored in Ubuntu hard drive?
[23:46] <stiev> bleck: qemu is used in virtualization, probably similar if not exactly what you're trying to do
[23:46] <mneptok> purplestar: ~/.mozilla/***.profile
[23:46] <gordonjcp> purplestar: somewhere in .mozilla/firefox/
[23:46] <gordonjcp> purplestar: why?
[23:46] <bobertdos> iCEifer: System->Preferences->Screen Resolution
[23:46] <purplestar> gordonjcp: because I want to know the exact cookie I need to keep for a ceertain website
[23:47] <vices> how do I tell if I successfully installed the b43 driver for a broadcom wireless card?
[23:47] <mneptok> ivorybishop: excuse me?
[23:47] <purplestar> mneptok: is that folder hidden?
[23:47] <iCEifer> bobertdos, no, I wish to leave it at 1024x768 but reduce the font sizes on everything and the icon sizes on the desktop
[23:47] <mneptok> purplestar: yassir
[23:47] <superfirelord42> mneptok: a seach on that one shows that it works, but requires using ndiswrapper
[23:47] <ivorybishop> vices: if you unplug the wired connection and can still hit google, you probably have it working correctly. lol
[23:47] <unop> purplestar, with firefox 3 they are stored in a sqlite database in ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.profile/cookies.sqlite
[23:47] <em_> purplestar: run firefox -- open tools menu - click on "addons"  click the link to get more addons -- when you get to that site do a search for cookie
[23:47] <purplestar> mneptok: all I see is Cache, no cookie folder
[23:47] <ivorybishop> mneptok: excused
[23:47] <owner> so i am in luck or not guys with my card
[23:47] <vices> ivorybishop: wow really?  ;)
[23:47] <mneptok> superfirelord42: the v7 model uses the Atheros 5005G chipset, supported by MadWiFi
[23:48] <ivorybishop> vices: i couldnt resist mate
[23:48] <vices> installing the broadcom card driver is a really tough thing for a linux newbie!
[23:48] <mneptok> ivorybishop: 18:41 < ivorybishop> hehe now someone needs to know more than the vendor and chipset innocent whistle
[23:48] <ivorybishop> vices: otherwise <- clueless noob
[23:48] <superfirelord42> owner: what is the version on the card?
[23:48] <superfirelord42> v7?
[23:48] <purplestar> em_: ok
[23:48] <mneptok> ivorybishop: care to explain why you're deliberately being counter-productive?
[23:48] <bleck> stiev: just reading up on qemu.. how cool is that.
[23:49] <docjay> could someone give me hand installing a driver in ubuntu?
[23:49] <ivorybishop> mneptok: ooh, it can scroll back, cut and paste, and it even makes julienne fries. lol
[23:49] <X3> heyevening
[23:49] <purplestar> unop: i only have kka5fhff.default folder in ~/.mozilla/firefox/.  Dont see any *.profile/cookies.sqlite
[23:49]  * bleck realises he is a computer geek.
[23:49] <ivorybishop> mneptok: lets let this one pass, eh?
[23:49] <rkagerer> Newbie question.  Looking for driver for a cheapo SATA RAID card I have.  Found one for Red Hat Linux.  Can I easily use it with Ubuntu?
[23:49] <EnMasse187> hey guys, no$gba help required
[23:49] <purplestar> unop: I dont have a "profile" folder at all in mozilla
[23:49] <mneptok> ivorybishop: i'll gladly turn that into a ban if you continue being rude.
[23:49] <EnMasse187> debCarlos: hey man, i got no$gba one problem
[23:49] <EnMasse187> debCarlos: i load up a nds rom and it says data can't be read
[23:49] <X3> I want to install a more comprehensive list of compilers and dependencies where can I find that info
[23:49] <unop> purplestar, * represents anything - including kka5fhff
[23:50] <onikos> I guess it will remain just playing with the thought.
[23:50] <EnMasse187> debCarlos: or it will load the rom and crash to desktop...
[23:50] <superfirelord42> that was pretty funny...
[23:50] <TXE4>                 *******************************************
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[23:50] <TXE4>                 *          IN THE (LATE) 90s              *
[23:50] <TXE4>                 *             [FULL STOP]                 *
[23:50] <TXE4>                 *******************************************
[23:50] <FloodBot1> TXE4: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:50] <bobertdos> debCarlos, mind if I PM you for a second?
[23:50] <ivorybishop> did it make you feel better?
[23:50] <ivorybishop> all i did was a make a statement and you started telling the guy not to listen to anyone
[23:50] <EnMasse187> debCarlos: hey you there?
[23:50] <purplestar> will leaving cookies on my PC allow anyone to gain my passwords for my Bank website etc?
[23:50] <ivorybishop> and basically started the rudeness
[23:51] <unop> purplestar,  ls -l ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/cookies.sqlite
[23:51] <mneptok> ivorybishop: feel free to discuss this in -ops. the subject is closed here.
[23:51] <superfirelord42> ivorybishop: are you trying to get kicked by him?
[23:51] <ivorybishop> i'll gladly leave the channel dude
[23:51] <aCiD2> Hi, was hoping someone could help me with my Pulse Audio problems (if here's not the place, tell me to go elsewhere :P). My sound seems to randomly "stop working" and the only way to fix it is to logout and back in
[23:51] <aCiD2> gnome-sound-proprties reports the following error:
[23:51] <aCiD2> sound-properties-Message: Error running pipeline 'audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink': Failed to connect: Connection refused [pulsesink.c(342): gst_pulsesink_open (): /bin0/pulsesink0]
[23:51] <superfirelord42> ivorybishop: or yall could just drop it...
[23:51] <purplestar> unop: that command doesnt do me any good, all it said was.. -rw-r--r-- 1 lisa lisa 27648 2008-07-17 08:49 /home/lisa/.mozilla/firefox/kka5fhff.default/cookies.sqlite
[23:51] <ivorybishop> its dropped
[23:51] <purplestar> unop: any other ideas?
[23:51] <aCiD2> I've tried restarting /etc/init.d/pulseaudio but this doesn't do anything, and dmesg doesn't show any problems
[23:51] <superfirelord42> owner, are you still there?
[23:52] <ajitam> how do I set up a vnc server on ubuntu so that I can us it even if I'm not loged in X
[23:52] <Shujah> aCiD2, go to menu > sys > pref > sounds > 2nd tab see if esd iun enabled?
[23:52] <mneptok> owner: is this Linksys a Cardbus device? v7 of the card?
[23:52] <purplestar> will leaving all cookies on my PC allow  hackers etc to gain my password or other private data?
[23:52] <unop> purplestar, thats the file that represents your cookie database
[23:52] <glitsj16> purplestar: if your bank relies on cookies for storing you account password, i'd suggest changing bank
[23:52] <unop> purplestar, no
[23:52] <Slart> purplestar: no
[23:52] <comicinker> I have a Gnome-Issue: I applied a theme which changed the look of the panels by replacing the background image. This altered also the looking of some other windows. How can I change the look of the gnome-panel system wide (maybe already in a theme)?
[23:52] <davidh1983> is there a way to configure GRUB to recognize a FREEBSD partition?
[23:52] <purplestar> glitsj16: i didnt say it did,  listen carefully and read all my comments before jumoping to conclusions
[23:53] <corky_> I am running 8.04 here, all updated.
[23:53] <iCEifer> unop, I currently run a program by doing "sudo /etc/init.d/privoxy start" how can I have this run on boot?
[23:53] <superfirelord42> davidh1983: yes there is....
[23:53] <glitsj16> purplestar: i did
[23:53] <X3> I want to install a more comprehensive list of compilers and dependencies where can I find that info
[23:53] <purplestar> Slart: so I can leave cookies alone and never bother clearing out the cookies?
[23:53] <EnMasse187> can anyone recommend a working nds emulator, i tried desmume and it crashes soon as i start it console says windows x error...
[23:53] <Legendario> i am having a problem with the genisoimage. Can anyone help me?
, try using Compiz/Emerald
[23:53] <onikos> I now just realised I had installed a game by non regular means. It's not in synaptic.
[23:53] <keri> i went and downloaded lime ware and now i can not find it
[23:53] <glitsj16> purplestar: seeing you don't know the first thing about cookies i'm gonna put the sock in it
[23:53] <EnMasse187> Legendario: whats wrong?
[23:53] <Xavura> How can I set Ubuntu to automatically mount my Windows HDD, regardless of whether I shut Winlulz down properly?
[23:53] <debCarlos>  EnMasse187: already tried no$gba ?
[23:53] <superfirelord42> davidh1983: well, i know there is a way, i think i have forgot how though... i had it doing a freebsd dual boot...
[23:53] <onikos> glitsj16: On your desktop maybe.?
[23:53] <purplestar> glitsj16: if you did, then you would realise I never said I wanted to keep my bank cookies.  When I spoke about bank, it was in reference to anyone gainin gmy bank password if all cookies are on my PC!  read in context son
[23:54] <comicinker> Driv3r912: is it a emerald setting?
[23:54] <EnMasse187> debCarlos: yes i got that, sometimes the game opens up and says data cant be read please reinsert cartridge, OR the game loads up and crashes to desktop
[23:54] <EnMasse187> debCarlos: im using wine
 with emerald, you can select themes off of the web and it will change panel looks and window styles system-wide.
[23:54] <glitsj16> onikos: ?
[23:54] <EnMasse187> debCarlos: and desmume which is linux native doesnt work either, windows x error...
[23:54] <owner> yeah sorry
, no, it really has to do with the theme you are using
[23:54] <__yy> Xavura: put it in your fstab, shutting down windows properly or not has no effect on mounting the drive in linux
[23:54] <mneptok> Xavura: you don't. Windows flags NTFS partitions unmounted improperly. those flags disallow reliable mounting in Linux.
[23:54] <owner> i had to prepare the other machine
[23:54] <purplestar> glitsj16: you are very condescending and arrogant, you think you know it all, but a truly wise man would realise they dont know much
[23:54] <onikos> glitsj16: You downloaded a program, check your desktop.
[23:54] <owner> i am baack now
[23:54] <debCarlos>  EnMasse187: oh, ok, i tought it would work, let me seach a little in google...
[23:55] <superfirelord42> owner: was the card a v7?
[23:55] <sysop1972> I have a newb question... I installed a deb package and I don't know how to locate the program to start it since it didn't place it in the programs menu
[23:55] <Xavura> mneptok: I was told you can tell it to ignore the flag
[23:55] <EnMasse187> debCarlos: kk im gonna search aswell
[23:55] <purplestar> a fool thinks he knows it all, but a truly wise man realises he doesnt know much.  So we all now know what category you fit into glitsj16
[23:55] <glitsj16> onikos: what are youtalking about ?
[23:55] <sysop1972> I mean applications
[23:55] <Legendario> EnMasse187, I type: genisoimage -R -b /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/stage2_eltorito -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -o ~/UbuntuBootCDforUSB.iso /tmp/bootcd.   So we all now know what category you fit into glitsj16
[23:55] <owner> i am installing the irc client on the other machine so i can do everything from there
[23:55] <glitsj16> purplestar: if you have ubuntu support issues, state them, keep the rest oftopic
[23:55] <owner> it should be done now
[23:55] <Legendario> EnMasse187, i am writing the whole path, what's wrong?
[23:56] <purplestar> glitsj16: i dont take orders from you son.  no go away flee :)
[23:56] <linxeh> 23:52 <purplestar> will leaving all cookies on my PC allow  hackers etc to gain  my password or other private data?
[23:56] <em_> purplestar: the answer is indeterminate, some web programmers have done some very stupid things in the past.  they put actual info into the cookie instead of just an id number.  but I think it is pretty rare these days for such ignorance.  anyway there are safeguards that are supposed to prvent a website from being able to read anything that it did not create.  so most cookies only contain a number that is meaninlgess to anyone who manages to rea
[23:56] <em_>  dit anyway.  but me personally I always delete cookies at frequent intervals because I dont like being tracked.  there is way too much big brother orwell stuff these days.  I enourage you to install one of the cookie addons that let you make certina cookies to be saved and then the rest can be deleted at will.  sorry dont recall the specific name of it offhand
[23:56] <iCEifer> unop, System startup links for /etc/init.d/privoxy already exist.   it's already running on boot by itself? :)
[23:56] <keri> i opened firefox and search music download and found lime ware and then went to that web site and it does use this program and i hit download.  Now i can not find it or if it downloaded.  can i get help
[23:56] <owner> where can i locate such info
[23:56] <unop> iCEifer, yes, but this ought to force anyway.     sudo update-rc.d -f privoxy start 20 2 3 4 5 . stop 20 0 1 6 .
[23:56] <linxeh> em_: hope you clear your flash cookies too :)
[23:57] <owner> it saids
[23:57] <linxeh> em_: http://epic.org/privacy/cookies/flash.html
[23:57] <unop> !ot
[23:57] <owner> linksys wireless g model no. wpc54g
[23:57] <iCEifer> unop, k, I ran that and it said the links already exisit, but this will make sure I guess?
[23:57] <Soul_Sample> umm, i lost terminal - sorry for repeating the question - can i run finch with the newest libpurple?
[23:58] <EnMasse187> Legendario: umm could you explain again whats your problem?
[23:58] <unop> iCEifer, you can verify.   ls -l /etc/rc2.d/*privoxy*
[23:58] <EnMasse187> Legendario: nvm
[23:58] <Shujah> deluge vs ktorrent vs utorrent on wine - what would you suggest on ubuntu hardy ?
[23:58] <iCEifer> unop, yeah, it's there...thanks :)
[23:58] <debCarlos>  EnMasse187: Found one emulator, it's name is IdeaS
[23:59] <bleck> Shujah: I like azureus
[23:59] <X3> I want to install a more comprehensive list of compilers and dependencies where can I find that info please
[23:59] <__yy> Shujah: of those choices, ktorrent... but I would reccommend rtorrent over ktorrent.
[23:59] <EnMasse187> debCarlos: i heard if you use no$gba you have to decrypt the roms?!
[23:59] <Legendario> EnMasse187, what does nvm mean? well, i am using the parameter -b and setting the path, but it tells me it can't find the boot image
[23:59] <Owner_> ok i am here
[23:59] <unop> X3, that's quite a vague question - are you building something in particular?
[23:59] <Bosambo> Hay all