[06:07] <seth_oh`boy> I didn't want to bother people in here, because I knew it would be full, but I just switched to Ubuntu and I can't use sudo or any root access when I installed ubuntu it didn't ask for a root password so I don't know is there a default for ubuntu or something...?
[06:07] <intelikey> yeah or three times. <-- jbmagic
[06:07] <Madpilot> Lao: Impress
[06:07] <Lao> awesome, that will be very helpful =-)
[06:07] <Xenguy> Lao: dunno - OOo uses presentation software called 'Impress' (compatible with PP AFAIK)
[06:07] <jbmagic> intelikey and the rest of the 20gb goes to /root?
[06:08] <dabaR> panzer: what did you do to lose grub?
[06:08] <Mantice> I noticed that Ubuntu is feaken small 650 mb
[06:08] <Mantice> Why!?
[06:08] <seth_oh`boy> Ubuntu is starting to make my brain hurt.
[06:09] <Xenguy> Mantice: that's not a full install AFAIK
[06:09] <panzer> I lose grub as I recover it
[06:09] <Lao> now how do I add more programs I see that open office comes with the build (I installed the DVD version) but I can't tell what version I have or how to update if needed
[06:09] <intelikey> jbmagic if you are intent on dedicating 20g to ubuntu i'd make a /home and put 14g or so there.   possably even make a /var with about 4g
[06:09] <Xenguy> seth_oh`boy: there is always sleeeeeeep :-)
[06:09] <panzer> I lose grub as I recover it
[06:09] <Madpilot> Mantice: the ISO is highly compressed, if that's what you're looking at
[06:09] <jbmagic> intelikey will ubuntu ask me what size swap and .root when i install ubuntu?
[06:09] <dabaR> panzer: as you recover what?
[06:09] <IdleOne> is it normal that xfce is asking for password on reboot?
[06:09] <wastrel> seth_oh`boy:  you can't use sudo?
[06:09] <robotgeek> IdleOne: yes
[06:09] <crimsun> IdleOne: yes
[06:09] <seth_oh`boy> No I can't
[06:09] <IdleOne> crimsun:  it didnt earlier
[06:09] <intelikey> jbmagic if you choose to manually partition it will  yes.
[06:09] <Xenguy> Lao: do some research; you need synaptic (GUI) or apt-get (command-line)
[06:09] <Madpilot> seth_oh`boy: with sudo, you use your own user pw - the one Ubuntu asked you to create on install
[06:09] <brad_teenbot> my sound isnt working, i have been trying to get it to work since ive installed it. Does anyone know how i get to the Ubuntu sound help room?
[06:10] <chromed> Hi people! I am running dapper (coz I'm craaaaazy) on amd64 (its a i386 install though) and I think the NX bit protection is causing Wine to go BOOM! Anyone else seen this and know how to sort it out?
[06:10] <Xenguy> IdleOne: yes
[06:10] <crimsun> brad_teenbot: this is the room.
[06:10] <seth_oh`boy> It doesn't accept it.
[06:10] <wastrel> seth_oh`boy:  you know that your user password is used for sudo, not the root password
[06:10] <LiteHedded> !sudo
[06:10] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:10] <jbmagic> intelikey so 500mb for /swap, /home 14gb and rest to /root?
[06:10] <panzer> how recovery grub I dont know
[06:10] <Madpilot> seth_oh`boy: what happens when you try System menu --> Admin --> Synaptic?
[06:10] <IdleOne> Xenguy:  I understand you guys are telling me it's normal but earlier when I rebooted it didnt ask for a password
[06:10] <dabaR> panzer: read the pm from ubotu
[06:10] <intelikey> jbmagic if you choose to manually partition it will  yes.   or should i say you will have control over the partitioning process.  it doesn't actually ask that question.
[06:10] <wastrel> seth_oh`boy:  the original user you created during the install should be able to use sudo
[06:10] <Xenguy> jbmagic: I thought you had 20Gb
[06:10] <Lao> ok, back to my books, thanks guys
[06:11] <Xenguy> IdleOne: it's normal
[06:11] <jbmagic> xenguy yes
[06:11] <intelikey> jbmagic looks like a good setup yeah
[06:11] <panzer> dabaR what??
[06:11] <IdleOne> ok Ill take your word for it
[06:11] <Xenguy> jbmagic: that's only 14.5 above
[06:11] <jbmagic> intelikey thanks
[06:11] <dabaR> panzer: look on your screen for "ubotu"
[06:11] <panzer> ok
[06:11] <jbmagic> xenguy i said the rest to /roor :)
[06:11] <pepsi> hrm, speaking of sudo
[06:11] <jbmagic> root
[06:11] <panzer> thanks
[06:11] <chromed> Anyone seen problems with Wine?
[06:11] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i reinstall a program
[06:11] <Xenguy> jbmagic: ahh
[06:11] <CanYouHelpMePlz> using apt
[06:11] <mordof_> bleh.. having troubles with installing nvidia drivers :S
[06:12] <jbmagic> is a pentium 2 ok for ubuntu?
[06:12] <Xenguy> CanYouHelpMePlz: man apt-get (there's an option for reinstall)
[06:12] <jbmagic> it an old system
[06:12] <Mantice> lol pentiem to :)
[06:12] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Xenguy: what option ..
[06:12] <Xenguy> CanYouHelpMePlz: man apt-get
[06:12] <Mantice> Command promt mode !!
[06:12] <Mantice> :)
[06:12] <wastrel> someone should write a man howto
[06:12] <Xenguy> wastrel: man man
[06:12] <intelikey> !cli
[06:12] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[06:12] <wastrel> that briefly explains the format of a man file, how to quit, how to search
[06:12] <Xenguy> man help
[06:13] <wastrel> Xenguy:  someone who doesn't know how to read a man file won't get much out of that
[06:13] <crimsun> brad_teenbot: you do realise that you need to provide a lot more info, correct?
[06:13] <dabaR> jbmagic: yes it is.
[06:13] <Xenguy> wastrel: you have to start somewhere :-)
[06:13] <wastrel> Xenguy:  a man howto would be a good place
[06:13] <Bmur> intelikey:  Why doesn't ubuntu mount a second hard drive for the default (admin) user?  I had to use the drive manager to access the second drive.  ...but I had to do it as "root" even though the root account is disabled.
[06:13] <Xenguy> wastrel: fine. man man works for me
[06:14] <Madpilot> wastrel: see  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands - which has a short two-paragraph intro to the man command
[06:14] <chromed> OK, different question, how do I disable NX bit protection?
[06:14] <intelikey> Bmur mount is always done by root.... ?
[06:14] <wastrel> Madpilot:  it's not for me, it's for all these people who are asking how to quit man
[06:14] <Xenguy> wastrel: let them eat cake :P
[06:14] <Madpilot> wastrel: good point - I'm not sure that's mentioned in BasicCommands :P
[06:14] <dabaR> intelikey: if you have the user option set in fstab for a partition, normal users can use it too.
[06:15] <jbmagic> dabar it wont take long to compile on ubuntu with an old pent 2 system?
[06:15] <dabaR> mount it rather
[06:15] <chromed> All i need is World of Warcraft :(
[06:15] <dabaR> jbmagic: you do a lot of compiles?
[06:15] <intelikey> Bmur if you have a listing in the /etc/fstab then the system mounts it for you (as root)  when you issue the mount command
[06:15] <wastrel> Madpilot:  actually yes it is mentioned :]
[06:15] <CanYouHelpMePlz> would sudo apt-get --reinstall libxpm4 work ?
[06:15] <jbmagic> dabar not really just want o install apps when ubuntu is install? will i need to compile?
[06:15] <Xenguy> CanYouHelpMePlz: sounds about right
[06:15] <kookaburra> jbmagic, you really shouldn't have to compile much unless you write and compile your own programs.
[06:15] <Francisco> hello
[06:15] <Francisco> hello
[06:15] <Francisco> helol
[06:16] <Francisco> hello
[06:16] <jbmagic> kookaburra good news thanks
[06:16] <Francisco> hello
[06:16] <Francisco> helllo
[06:16] <Francisco> hello
[06:16] <robotgeek> !ops
[06:16] <ubotu> Help! seb128, lilo, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[06:16] <kookaburra> ubuntu installs from binary files, not source
[06:16] <dabaR> jbmagic: what do you use ubuntu for? for a server pentium 2 is great. for gnome, it will depend on the amount of memory, other desktops, like xfce are a better choice for under 256 RAM. I mean, try it out, then see.
[06:16] <Francisco> can somebody help me==??
[06:16] <kookaburra> binary is faster
[06:16] <Francisco> I have some problems compiling"!!
[06:16] <xpl0it> I have just installed BitDefender...and when I type bdc --info or bdc /mnt/hda1 --all it says core initialization failed.  libfn failed bdc.
[06:16] <dabaR> robotgeek: ask the person to stop first.
[06:16] <benplaut> Francisco: not after that outburst
[06:16] <robotgeek> Francisco: why did you have to spam so much?
[06:16] <robotgeek> dabaR: sorry
[06:16] <xpl0it> I can type bdc (period) and continue to get the error libfn failed bdc.
[06:16] <Xenguy> robotgeek: or simply slay them...
[06:16] <Francisco> robotgeek, I am Despertie
[06:17] <jbmagic> dabar i plan to use ubuntu as my second cpu. i will mainly use it for music,movies, internet and learnign linux
[06:17] <benplaut> as are many
[06:17] <CanYouHelpMePlz> hmm doesn't work
[06:17] <Bmur> intelikey: k, it seems like it should be easier by default.  but I can't complain too much
[06:17] <benplaut> what's your question?
[06:17] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i reinstall a package using apt....
[06:17] <robotgeek> Francisco: you reminded my of a spam bot :)
[06:17] <xpl0it> apt-get install
[06:17] <intelikey> dabaR try that on a system with / mounted nosuid  and see if users can mount.... it has to be root, whether through the systems fstab or through sudo or what ever.
[06:17] <Xenguy> xpl0it: reinstall
[06:17] <kookaburra> you will have fun with it most likely jbmagic.
[06:17] <jbmagic> what does a server linux do, just curious?
[06:18] <wastrel> Francisco:  we can't help you if we don't know what your problem is.  if you tell us, we may be able to help
[06:18] <Madpilot> jbmagic: the server install of Ubuntu? It's got no graphical desktop, just the command line - for running web servers & such
[06:18] <intelikey> jbmagic you mean server install ?    it is without X    no gnome.
[06:18] <Xenguy> jbmagic: web server; ftp server; you name it, whatever services you want to offer
[06:18] <dabaR> Francisco: what is wrong? post errors to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and tell us exactly what you are doing, and in one line, if possible.
[06:18] <jbmagic> no i mean using linux as a server only
[06:19] <jbmagic> what they mean by that
[06:19] <dabaR> jbmagic: it serves.
[06:19] <kookaburra> a server: A host computer on a network that holds information (eg, Web sites) and reponds to requests for information from it (eg, links to another Web page). The term server is also used to refer to the software that makes the act of serving information possible. Commerce servers, for example, use software to run the main functions of an e-commerce Web site, such as product display, online ordering, and inventory management. You'll
[06:19] <kookaburra> also hear this described as "shopping cart technology. ...
[06:19] <Xenguy> jbmagic: ahh, minimal install, and no gui then
[06:19] <jbmagic> i hear people say it alot but what does it serve?
[06:19] <Madpilot> jbmagic: any website you look at is being "served" by a server - lots of them run Linux
[06:19] <kookaburra> scroll up to my last post jbmagic
[06:19] <dabaR> for example, it holds your web page, serves as a router for your house network and a firewall, and stores all your important backups of files.
[06:19] <kookaburra> A server is a computer that handles requests for data, email, file transfers, and other network services from other computers (ie, clients).
[06:19] <brad_teenbot> Varsendagger: are you awake tonight? i was wondering about what was going on with that labtop
[06:20] <jbmagic> i see
[06:20] <wastrel> jbmagic:  it's called a server because it provides a service
[06:20] <Francisco> wastrel, so, read to me. ... dabaR too pls.. I wanna know how to make programs in C and then have like a .exe [in windows]  I know that in ubuntu it can not be possible but I know that there is a similar."
[06:20] <jbmagic> makes sense
[06:20] <chromed> Guyes, when I try to run winecfg
[06:20] <Xenguy> and it doesn't have a damn GUI ;-)
[06:20] <chromed> chrome@slick:~$ winecfg
[06:20] <chromed> Killed
[06:20] <chromed> I get that
[06:20] <chromed> Anyone help?
[06:20] <wastrel> Francisco:  sudo apt-get install build-essential   then find a C programming tutorial
[06:20] <intelikey> jbmagic like i said    the server install option on the install cd   means you install the base system  but no X.
[06:20] <CanYouHelpMePlz> I'M having a problem trying to install the LATEST xfce, it keeps telling me i need X pixmap Library, but i have it installed, and i have even reinstalled it can anyone help............ PLEASe
[06:21] <Madpilot> !tell Francisco about b-e
[06:21] <jbmagic> intelikey that will be kinda rough for me starting out
[06:21] <jbmagic> i do the default install
[06:21] <intelikey> yes it would....
[06:21] <kookaburra> yeah, you will be happier
[06:21] <Francisco> I download the emacs 21 but I do not know how to use it.." and I read some about to compilation and then when I have the X.o I do not know what to do exactly.."
[06:21] <dabaR> CanYouHelpMePlz: you need to post a link to pastebin with the error, not that big sentence.
[06:21] <Madpilot> jbmagic: just do the default install, it'll give you a full desktop
[06:21] <Xenguy> jbmagic: if you want a desktop, then install the regular desktop and watch Ubu shine :-)
[06:21] <Mantice> Is there a game emulator?
[06:22] <jbmagic> damn i forgot, does a dvd player play well on a pentium 2? i forgot how well it does?
[06:22] <CanYouHelpMePlz> dabaR: i don't have an error, just the xfce installer says i need the libXpm.so file, but i don't know where it is
[06:22] <chromed> Francisco: Go buy a book called "The C Programming Language" by Kernigan and Richie. Look it up on Amazon.
[06:22] <dabaR> Francisco: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html
[06:22] <Xenguy> Mantice: wine runs games; see frankscorner.org for example
[06:22] <Mantice> Hows Unbuntu With drivers?
[06:22] <intelikey> jbmagic but if you can survive a comando install you will be ages ahead of the avrage ubuntu user in a month   :)
[06:22] <xpl0it> bdc returns core initialization failed. libfn failed bdc.
[06:22] <xpl0it> arg
[06:22] <Francisco> chromed, I know the programmation on C. but I do not know how to get the executable on my pc.."
[06:23] <jbmagic> intelikey true..but i do the default install and use the terminal alot , so i can be ahead
[06:23] <intelikey> :)
[06:23] <Xenguy> Mantice: pretty good, research in advance helps
[06:23] <dabaR> Francisco: do you have build-essential installed?
[06:23] <chromed> Francisco: "gcc -o hello helloworld.c" will com
[06:23] <chromed> pile the binary for you.
[06:23] <Francisco> dabaR, I thing so..
[06:23] <chromed> but you really should use Google
[06:23] <seth_oh`boy> :(
[06:23] <xpl0it> Anyone use bitdefender?
[06:24] <dabaR> Francisco: well, go make sure, that is the compiler package.
[06:24] <EricNeon> hi
[06:24] <Xenguy> !anyone
[06:24] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[06:24] <jbmagic> i have an old second pc i am not using.. i better get some use of it by using ubuntu on it and share it will my dsl connection of my main window xp
[06:24] <jbmagic> i wish i did this a long time ago
[06:24] <chromed> can someone help me with my little wine problem please?
[06:24] <jbmagic> chromed red or white :)
[06:25] <chromed> jbmagic: funny :(
[06:25] <Francisco> No se puede leer la lista de paquetes fuente ftp://ftp.free.fr breezy/free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.free.fr_pub_Distributions%5fLinux_plf_ubuntu_plf_dists_breezy_free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No existe el fichero o el directorio)
[06:25] <Francisco> W: No se puede leer la lista de paquetes fuente ftp://ftp.free.fr breezy/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.free.fr_pub_Distributions%5fLinux_plf_ubuntu_plf_dists_breezy_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No existe el fichero o el directorio)
[06:25] <nalioth> Francisco: please don't paste in here
[06:25] <xpl0it> Downloaded BitDefender via their website.  used dpkg -i to install... Typed bdc /mnt/hda1 --all and continue received:  core initialization failed. libfn failed bdc.
[06:25] <Francisco> nalioth, it is for dabaR ...
[06:25] <nalioth> Francisco: use a pastebin next time, please
[06:25] <xpl0it> googled this prob but didn't see any answers.
[06:26] <Francisco> nalioth, ok..2
[06:26] <wastrel> xpl0it:  was it a debian package or an ubuntu package?
[06:26] <brad_teenbot> is there any way i can set a screensaver on ubuntu??
[06:26] <chadwick|359> can anybody help me get Ekiga interfacing with msn/windows messenger, or give me the name of any program that it would be compatable with?
[06:26] <kookaburra> xpl0it, it seems like a dependency is not met that the prog needs.
[06:26] <dabaR> Francisco: comment that repository out that is giving you trouble, it is the plf one.
[06:26] <romeo> i am abou to download the latest version of amsn do i get tar or rpm for ubuntu?
[06:26] <Xenguy> brad_teenbot: xscreensaver
[06:26] <romeo> rpm sorry
[06:27] <kookaburra> neither would be preferable romeo
[06:27] <jbmagic> romeo dont you just do an apt-get amsn?
[06:27] <wastrel> what's ekiga
[06:27] <Mantice> Any one here recomend python
[06:27] <liskl> anyone know how to output a specified line from a specified file to standard output for use in a bash shell?
[06:27] <kookaburra> you really want to try the ubuntu repository first
[06:27] <wastrel> recommend pythong for what?
[06:27] <wastrel> heh python
[06:27] <intelikey> romeo .deb  if possable
[06:27] <Xenguy> Mantice: python is nice
[06:27] <xpl0it> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BitDefender followed the directions in this link.
[06:27] <xpl0it> but still received the errors
[06:27] <Mantice> first language to learn besides html ...
[06:27] <brad_teenbot> Xenguy: whats that? sorry im still learning about ubuntu
[06:27] <intelikey> Xenguy perl ?
[06:28] <wastrel> liskl:  head will do that - man head
[06:28] <jbmagic> kookaburra i tought apt-get program name will get you the program you want
[06:28] <Xenguy> brad_teenbot: apt-cache show xscreensaver
[06:28] <seth_oh`boy> Does anybody know a good website where I can find information on how to setup a wireless lan connection in Ubuntu??
[06:28] <intelikey> !start a language war
[06:28] <ubotu> hindi is far more elegant than english
[06:28] <kookaburra> that's right
[06:28] <robotgeek> seth_oh`boy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:28] <Madpilot> !wireless
[06:28] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[06:28] <Xenguy> intelikey: I like perl, and I like python :-)
[06:28] <kookaburra> apt-get install program
[06:28] <romeo> well does ubuntu have the latest version on it already
[06:28] <seth_oh`boy> Thanks
[06:28] <romeo> /
[06:28] <dabaR> hahaha, that totally smells like razor-X that factoid.
[06:28] <romeo> ?
[06:28] <romeo> ?
[06:28] <jbmagic> kookaburra so no need to get .rpm, tar, .deb, etc right?
[06:28] <chrome> Can someone please tell me, does Ubuntu use Exec Shield?!
[06:28] <Madpilot> dabaR: which one?
[06:29] <_jason> liskl: sed -n 1p /path/to/file, change 1 to the line number you want.  That's what I know
[06:29] <kookaburra> do you have synaptic installed romeo. it's a gui for installing programs the easy  way
[06:29] <dabaR> Madpilot: see last ubotu post
[06:29] <xpl0it> Any virus detection scanning software (free of course) out there?
[06:29] <kookaburra> point click
[06:29] <xpl0it> Bitdefender seems to be hosed...
[06:29] <intelikey> Xenguy we are offtopic but maybe i wont get kicked for this,  i really dont know anything but bash; and i'm not sure i should say i "know" bash....
[06:29] <stephen__> does anyone know a reason what could cause audio and video to be choppy on a new installation?
[06:29] <Madpilot> dabaR: the wireless one? "rumour has it" is one of the bot's standard lines, I think
[06:29] <Xenguy> kookaburra: installed by default in most cases
[06:29] <dabaR> Madpilot: sorry, one before that.
[06:29] <foov2> i am using bluetooth for php and js development; any other suggestions?  tia
[06:29] <romeo> synaptic i l have to check
[06:29] <Xenguy> intelikey: they're all good, and can be learned a bit at a time
[06:30] <wastrel> liskl:  actually you'll have to use head & tail...  each only does half the job :]
[06:30] <romeo> should be here somewhere right
[06:30] <kookaburra> should be under system-tools
[06:30] <Madpilot> dabaR: heh, the language war one, might be :P
[06:30] <foov2> sorry, lol, bluefish
[06:30] <romeo> i ll check for synaptec
[06:30] <Madpilot> romeo: System menu --> Admin --> Synaptic Package Manager
[06:31] <brad_teenbot> Am i able to put an image on ubuntu as a background??
[06:32] <Madpilot> brad_teenbot: desktop wallpaper? sure - right click on the desktop, choose "Change Desktop Background"
[06:32] <wastrel> sigh
[06:32] <jbmagic> so no need to get .rpm, tar, .deb, etc right? just use apt-get install program name?
[06:32] <kookaburra> i never keep the default theme as my main theme.
[06:32] <intelikey> jbmagic correct
[06:32] <jbmagic> cool
[06:32] <wastrel> don't be sad
[06:33] <Madpilot> jbmagic: yes, or use Synaptic if you prefer a GUI
[06:33] <awr> I'm speak in portuguese
[06:33] <brad_teenbot> ok thanks Madpilot
[06:33] <jbmagic> so after ubuntu is install , enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories. anything else i need to do?
[06:33] <Xenguy> jbmagic: although apt-get can be mighty handy when you are installing software on a remote host :-)
[06:33] <awr> somebody speak portuguese?
[06:34] <Xenguy> jbmagic: kiss yer wind0ze goodbye :P
[06:34] <cradek> !pt
[06:34] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:34] <jbmagic> Xenguy lol
[06:34] <awr> cradek,  thanks
[06:34] <cradek> welcome
[06:34] <jbmagic> what the best cd ripper to get and best dvd ripper to get?
[06:34] <intelikey> jbmagic the gui frontend for dpkg is 'synaptic'   two cli frontends are  apt and aptitude   apt includes apt-get apt-cache apt-config and so on.....  where as aptitude is an ncruses interactive frontend      err i think ncurses....
[06:34] <cradek> you can just go to that directory and see if you can insert the module
[06:35] <Madpilot> jbmagic: for ripping audio, ubuntu has SoundJuicer installed by default, it works nicely
[06:35] <kookaburra> there's gnomebaker. it burns pretty good
[06:35] <Francisco> dabaR, I need that you help me!!
[06:35] <jbmagic> intelikey thanks
[06:35] <tga1> to install .otf fonts do I just copy them to ~/.fonts?
[06:36] <intelikey> jbmagic you can search with any of those afore mentioned apps
[06:36] <Mordof> question: Do the NVIDIA drivers downloaded from nvidia.com for IA32 work in dapper??
[06:36] <dabaR> Francisco: how would I do that?
[06:36] <liskl> using head i can get a range of lines using -n  starting from the start of file
[06:36] <liskl> using tail i can get a range of lines using -n starting reversed from EOF
[06:36] <liskl> i'm looking for a way to get only line 57 from file horse.txt, or line 83 from cow.txt
[06:36] <Mordof> ive tried installing them several times and i get a failed to load module error
[06:36] <wastrel> howcome nobody ever mentions dselect
[06:36] <brad_teenbot> Am i able to leave my PC on ubuntu 24/7? without any problems?
[06:36] <wastrel> i spent a lot of hours in dselect back in the day
[06:36] <cradek> liskl: head ... | tail ...
[06:36] <crimsun> wastrel: because most people will not have struggled with it like we have.
[06:36] <Arafangi1n> How do simpress presentations work on laptops?
[06:36] <wastrel> hmm maybe that's why nobody mentions it :]
[06:36] <dabaR> brad_teenbot: does it do anything while it is on, or just leave it on?
[06:36] <intelikey> brad_teenbot no.  your light bill will go up.....
[06:37] <jbmagic> gnomebaker burns everything well. like backup dvd that i own?
[06:37] <romeo> ok i found synpatic but it won t let update amsn
[06:37] <RaoulDuke> amsn kinda sucks
[06:37] <wastrel> liskl:  head -n 57 | tail -n 1
[06:37] <RaoulDuke> try gaim :)
[06:37] <jbmagic> romeo do apt-get install amsn
[06:37] <kookaburra> for like what? backing up your music files, pictures etc?
[06:38] <Mordof> Anyone know?
[06:38] <brad_teenbot> intelikey, haha very funny lol
[06:38] <kookaburra> if that is what you mean then yes.
[06:38] <wastrel> liskl:  er,  head -n 57 horse.txt | tail -n 1
[06:38] <jbmagic> kookaburra like dvd movies i own
[06:38] <jbmagic> and cd i own
[06:38] <Francisco> my pc does not play .wmv, I have downloas the gstream xine, of totem, VLC, Real player, Mplayer and I have not done that it works..
[06:38] <dabaR> liskl: get first 57 lines as intermediate result, then get the last only line of the intermediate result.
[06:38] <romeo> soory i should say amsn is instaled i want to update it
[06:38] <jbmagic> if install it should be the latest version
[06:38] <Madpilot> !tell Francisco about w32codecs
[06:38] <dabaR> wastrel: >:(
[06:38] <romeo> and while i m at it i would also like to update firefox
[06:38] <liskl> thanks everyone
[06:38] <kookaburra> Francisco, you need to install the win32codecs
[06:38] <Francisco> Madpilot, I have done..
[06:38] <RaoulDuke> me too on firefox
[06:39] <wastrel> dabaR:  sry :]
[06:39] <Iceman> sucks, seems my ubuntu system crashed fatal today ...
[06:39] <Mordof> grr, wish Tomi- was here!
[06:39] <jbmagic> what the command to update apps you have
[06:39] <cradek> I think so
[06:39] <kookaburra> apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:39] <rjcute> hi
[06:39] <Iceman> not the operating system, the motherboard seems to have failed ...
[06:39] <kiru> hi
[06:39] <kiru> hello
[06:39] <RaoulDuke> @ ice... get a lanparty mobo
[06:39] <RaoulDuke> wont break
[06:40] <intelikey> jbmagic latest.... well no.   but latest stable at the time of release of the disrot i.e 10/2005 for breezy
[06:40] <jbmagic> romeo just use the update command
[06:40] <rjcute> fd
[06:40] <romeo> ypu mean in firefox?
[06:40] <Iceman> RaoulDuke had a Abit k8v pro ... 64 bit ... socket 754 system ...
[06:40] <Francisco> I have done it. and It do not works.."
[06:40] <jbmagic> intelikey i tought you can update the distro ubuntu and dont need to downlaod the iso again?
[06:40] <romeo> it just says it s updated
[06:40] <rjcute> hello to all fuckersssssssssssssssssss
[06:40] <RaoulDuke> 64 is for the win :)
[06:40] <romeo> bit its only 1,07
[06:40] <jbmagic> romeo do apt-get update firefox
[06:40] <rjcute> wew
[06:40] <RaoulDuke> DFI Lanparty mobos are the best in industry IMHO
[06:41] <rjcute> rt
[06:41] <RaoulDuke> they support 754
[06:41] <rjcute> rt
[06:41] <livid> hello
[06:41] <RaoulDuke> as well as 939
[06:41] <Mordof> !tell Francisco about RestrictedFormats
[06:41] <livid> what is the default root password on ubuntu?
[06:41] <rjcute> re
[06:41] <rjcute> er
[06:41] <romeo> you mean in conmmand?
[06:41] <GTroy> any way to reset/restart the screesaver app?
[06:41] <RaoulDuke> root is disabled lol
[06:41] <jbmagic> romeo yes
[06:41] <Iceman> RaoulDuke All i get is post code ... will not boot ...
[06:41] <rjcute> wat
[06:41] <RaoulDuke> does it beep ice?
[06:41] <romeo> ok
[06:41] <dabaR> rjcute: hello back. now stop
[06:41] <Mordof> Francisco: if w32codecs does not solve it, those should
[06:41] <wastrel> GTroy:  xscreensaver?   there's an option in the configurator to restart it  check the menu
[06:41] <RaoulDuke> u can get handy diagnostic info from that
[06:41] <Iceman> RaoulDuke yes ...
[06:41] <livid> RaaulDuke, yea...I know it is disabled...how do you turn it on?
[06:41] <GTroy> wastrel: thanks
[06:42] <RaoulDuke> how many times?
[06:42] <kookaburra> jbmagic, you would just change your sources.list file to the next release name and then apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:42] <Francisco> Mordof, ok I will try it
[06:42] <Mantice> Whats the difference between 64 bit build and the normal intel 32 bit build???
[06:42] <RaoulDuke> ..... @ livid ... you cant use SUDO
[06:42] <interneti> I have installed e17, and I am unable to log in, I get this eror
[06:42] <intelikey> jbmagic you can upgrade the release to the next release (dapper in may)  but the packages will only update security updates and bug fixes between releases.
[06:42] <Iceman> RaoulDuke 1 long think it was 3 short
[06:42] <jbmagic> if the distro ubunto version change..will i need to download the iso again and install the distro again?
[06:42] <rjcute> yeah
[06:42] <RaoulDuke> hmmm happend to me (mobo) go to your brand mobo website
[06:42] <romeo> ok
[06:42] <interneti> I am told to edit the xinitrc.....
[06:42] <RaoulDuke> and look up their 'beep codes'
[06:42] <kookaburra> scroll up to my last post jbmagic
[06:42] <Mantice> ;/
[06:42] <livid> RaoulDuke, I tried using sudo and my password when it asks for admin password and it fails
[06:42] <whatwhat> im stupid or what? or my 142 qi is not good ... to install the java plugin in linux whith firefox?
[06:42] <Iceman> RaoulDike not yet ... thats next ...
[06:43] <interneti> so I was wondring if anyone could help
[06:43] <whatwhat> grrrrrrrrrrr
[06:43] <Madpilot> livid: did you do a standard install of Ubuntu?
[06:43] <Mantice> With ubuntu does it auto update so I allways have the latestest and gratest version :)
[06:43] <jbmagic> kookaburra thanks
[06:43] <dabaR> jbmagic: no, you will not.
[06:43] <livid> Madpilot, yes...
[06:43] <Iceman> RaoulDike i want to cry. lose a 64 bit box ... ;(
[06:43] <RaoulDuke> could just be dead RAM or bios ice
[06:43] <intelikey> jbmagic if the distro....and install the distro again?   no.  distro upgrade.
[06:43] <RaoulDuke> i feel ur pain i had a new laptop's mobo died. 900 quid down the drain
[06:44] <rjcute> send me
[06:44] <jbmagic> dabar yep i saw kookaburra instuction on how to update distro
[06:44] <Mantice> How do you upgrade the distro?
[06:44] <Iceman> RaoulDike not the ram, it's in this winblows system now and stable ..
[06:44] <Mantice> Is there some kind of icon or somthing
[06:44] <livid> Madpilot, any ideas?
[06:44] <RaoulDuke> hmmmmmm how odd!
[06:44] <jbmagic> mantice look at kookaburra post above
[06:44] <interneti> so there is not a single person here capable of helping me?
[06:44] <dabaR> Mantice: you change the name of the repository you install packages from, and run an upgrade command.
[06:44] <jbmagic> Mantice you would just change your sources.list file to the next release name and then apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:44] <RaoulDuke> sorry interneti whats ur prob again?
[06:44] <Iceman> RaoulDike got to look at bios ... and read on the post code ..
[06:44] <livid> hrmm..
[06:45] <interneti> e17 gives me an error and I was advised to edit xinitrc
[06:45] <rjcute> send me the system
[06:45] <RaoulDuke> if its booting into windowz its POST is fine.
[06:45] <livid> RaoulDuke, sudo seems like it isn't accepting my password
[06:45] <Madpilot> livid: it should have worked - using the password you entered during setup when Ubuntu asks for one
[06:45] <rjcute> fast
[06:45] <RaoulDuke> .... hmm im not sure thats never happend to me before
[06:45] <jbmagic> i remember a while back when mandrake update there distro, you had to download the iso and install mandrake again. i hated that
[06:45] <livid> Madpilot, yes...I am aware it should have ;) heheh
[06:45] <Iceman> RaoulDike im on a p4 system now, to read on the mobo ...
[06:45] <RaoulDuke> ahhhhhhhhhhh
[06:45] <RaoulDuke> haha sorry misunderstood
[06:45] <pgavin> i have a problem with dhcp...  my ISP has assigned me an IP that dhcp should be getting, but its getting some other IP.  If I boot some other OS, dhcp gets that IP just fine
[06:46] <livid> anyway...I am going to futz around with it...
[06:46] <Iceman> RaoulDike 64 will not boot ...
[06:46] <pgavin> anyone know why that would happen?
[06:46] <Francisco> Mordof, tell me something about ."" wmv files encoded with DRM are not playable by the codecs...
[06:46] <livid> not having a network connection
[06:46] <livid> not good
[06:46] <intelikey> jbmagic but as far as getting the latest version of blah between distro upgrades....  not how it works....   and why would a release that is less than 6 months old be so bad anyway ?   surely that is fresh enough for anything...
[06:46] <RaoulDuke> do you have any post information ice?
[06:46] <RaoulDuke> set your bios to show the full bootup screen
[06:46] <Mordof> Francisco: that means its protected afaik, you can't play protected media in linux.. not allowed
[06:46] <interneti> RaoulDuke is there a possibility you could help?
[06:46] <Mantice> You should have never endoded in DRM = Microsoft = Bad = Copyprotection........
[06:46] <dabaR> rjcute: please stop sending messages when you do not have anything to say.
[06:46] <Madpilot> livid: no idea, but if you did a standard install & are using your user pw, you should be OK - you're using the original user you set up on install?
[06:46] <Mordof> Francisco: you would need to download a license to view it, and downloading licenses does not work in linux
[06:46] <RaoulDuke> sorry interneti dude, im not sure :$
[06:46] <Iceman> RaoulDike cant get a post screen ...
[06:47] <rjcute> ok
[06:47] <RaoulDuke> mmmm sounds like its really screwed
[06:47] <whatwhat> is necassary install ... java whith root ? to can run the java plugin in firefox ?
[06:47] <jbmagic> intelikey i am just glad with ubuntu, there no need to install the distro over agin by getting the new version .iso of the distro...glad you can just use the command to update
[06:47] <Mantice> I wonder why it doesnt work in linux ;) Gates makes every thing work LOL
[06:47] <RaoulDuke> i know this sounds silly but go step by step, check your PSU then RAM and CPU conns. and then the BIOS chip itself
[06:47] <Francisco> Mordof, ok ok. I get it... I can see it but not heat it..
[06:47] <Iceman> RaoulDike reading on it now, got to find a post code listing ... :(
[06:47] <RichART1> is TokenBad here?
[06:47] <interneti> anyone here have any Idea what I could do to fix this crap????????????????
[06:47] <Mordof> Mantice: only way to do it would be to work around it.. in that case, playing them is highly illegal, and linux could be taken down for it
[06:47] <wastrel> intelikey:  can you paste the error at this website: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org   and give us the link?
[06:48] <RaoulDuke> mmm once youve got that it will help
[06:48] <Mordof> Mantice: there is a thin line for playing media and other stuff that linux can't cross, or it could be bad
[06:48] <RichART1> ::TokenBad:: ?
[06:48] <intelikey> wastrel no i can not   ???????
[06:48] <dabaR> whatwhat: did you read the http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats wiki page?
[06:48] <Madpilot> !tell whatwhat about java
[06:48] <RaoulDuke> @ mordo .... i think its up to the user to cross that line
[06:48] <wastrel> intelikey:  did you write down the error?  what does it say you should do with xinitrc
[06:49] <Iceman> dang cant find a beep code listing
[06:49] <RaoulDuke> ubu has done it well, dont ship it,but leave it to the user
[06:49] <Mordof> RaoulDuke: not when it comes to copy protection, granted they have mp3 support n stuff.. but copy protection is just asking for a lawsuit
[06:49] <whatwhat> dabaR i just try :\ ok i will check it
[06:49] <RaoulDuke> thats true..
[06:49] <RichART1> k, i just wanna kno 1 thing: how does one UNinstall ubuntu?? I don't have enuff hdd space 4 it
[06:49] <RaoulDuke> USE THE LIVE CD LOL
[06:49] <RaoulDuke> heheh
[06:49] <Mordof> RaoulDuke: the only way to avoid conflicts is by grabbing the license from microsoft.com, and microsoft checks for windows :P
[06:49] <Madpilot> RaoulDuke: you don't need to use @ to begin lines, and it helps if you use the full nickname
[06:49] <intelikey> wastrel you smoking crack or something ?     please address your questions to whom they concern   :)
[06:49] <RaoulDuke> mmmm shit yeah i hadnt thought of that
[06:49] <RichART1> use the liveCD 2 uninstall?
[06:49] <rjcute> guys my pc is logging
[06:50] <jbmagic> why does other distro make you get the new updated version of there distro when ever it comes out and you have to download the iso again and install over.   i glad UBuntu is not like that. just a simple command to use
[06:50] <RaoulDuke> sorry old old habbits :D
[06:50] <wastrel> intelikey:  sry it's scrolling pretty fast in here :]
[06:50] <RichART1> is anyone answering me?
[06:50] <intelikey> wastrel it's ok i stand under you......
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  you may be better off doing a reisntall howeger when the next version comes out.
[06:50] <wastrel> interneti:    did you write down the error?  what does it say you should do with xinitrc
[06:50] <_jason> RichART1: use the install cd to install
[06:50] <jbmagic> Dr_Willis why is that?
[06:50] <RaoulDuke> ICE you there dude?
[06:51] <RichART1> no _jason; to UNinstall
[06:51] <RichART1> i wanna take it out!
[06:51] <brad_teenbot> Thanks everyone for your help
[06:51] <_jason> RichART1: what do you use? windows?
[06:51] <Mantice> Whats the difference between the Unbuntu 64 bit and the 32 bitversion
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  when EVERYTHING gets updated at once.. :P it can be.. well finicky.. theres always seems to be people comming in here with 'issues' when upgrading from one relase to another.
[06:51] <RichART1> ::_jason:: yeah, xp pro
[06:51] <odla> is totem being unable to play dvds in dapper a known problem?  i.e. it gives the following error  'no reason'
[06:51] <_jason> Mantice: 32 bits :)
[06:51] <rjcute> send me a new system
[06:51] <Mantice> LOL
[06:51] <Mantice> yeah
[06:51] <RaoulDuke> me too rofl
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  i just keep home on a seperate partition. and then reinstall with every new release.
[06:52] <rjcute> w
[06:52] <Mantice> ok you win
[06:52] <malv> anyone know of any website that show how to write really fast c++ code?
[06:52] <chameleon> anyone know the best distro that is sucure and fast
[06:52] <intelikey> RichART1 use xp to reclaim the 'now linux' partition  and fix your mbr
[06:52] <jbmagic> Dr_Willis ok i see..  will i lose what i have already isntall?
[06:52] <chameleon> maby a sever distro
[06:52] <malv> and how to avoid common efficiency pitfals
[06:52] <RaoulDuke> malv heheh i have same problem
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  proberly. but its fairly trivial to reinstall the stuff.
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:52] <Mantice> nah but seareasly all packages from, and run an upgrade command.
 Mantice you would just change your sources.list file to the next release name and then apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:52] <RichART1> ::_jason:: how do i do that?
[06:52] <Mantice> lol
[06:52] <Mantice> Sorry
[06:52] <malv> i have the feeling I am writing really slow code
[06:52] <RichART1> ::_jason:: sorry, i'm a total newb @ this stuff
[06:52] <Mantice> I pasted shit
[06:52] <chameleon> anyone know
[06:52] <_jason> Mantice: some stuff isn't avaible for 64bit yet, like flash for instance.  That's probably the biggest difference other than the fact that one is 64bit and the other is 32bit
[06:53] <jbmagic> Dr_Willis so anything in the /home partion wont get lost.?
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> chameleon,  you are being rather vague. :P
[06:53] <chameleon> sorry
[06:53] <wastrel> malv:  #c++ maybe?
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  if you have /home on its own partition - you can chose to not reformat it.
[06:53] <chameleon> i just thought not one seen me
[06:53] <RaoulDuke> well ciao guys, got a lecture.
[06:53] <RichART1> ::_jason:: oh, & anutha thing, its not fully installed in the 1st place coz i didnt have enuff hdd space, k?
[06:53] <malv> wastrel, yea, sorry I was pasting into the wrong channel
[06:53] <malv> heh
[06:53] <jbmagic> Dr_Willis is /home where the apps gets install too?
[06:53] <_jason> RichART1: boot a livecd and use gparted to delete the linux partitions, then make new ones for whatever you want, boot with the windows install disk and fixmbr
[06:53] <chameleon> and see still no anser
[06:54] <Mantice> Is there such thing as Gaming on linux?
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  nope.
[06:54] <Mantice> I guess it would be open source so it will be free :)
[06:54] <Fujitsu> Mantice, ?
[06:54] <RichART1> ::_jason:: k, thx alot frend
[06:54] <_jason> chameleon: wine is in the repositories
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  /home is where the users keep their stuff.
[06:54] <intelikey> malv faster code is not always better code, but normally it is.   if you have a string that you think needs optimised you should take it to a language specific channel   i.e.  #perl
[06:54] <jbmagic> dr Willis thanks
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> Mantice,   i play all sorts of games..
[06:54] <Madpilot> Mantice: there are both open-source and close-source games for Linux - Enemy Territory has a Linux version, for example
[06:54] <_jason> RichART1: if I were you, I would delete windows and make room for ubuntu :)
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> "Puzzle Pirates" works under Linux as well.
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:55] <Mantice> :)
[06:55] <Mantice> I played somthing Chess in linux
[06:55] <wastrel> nethack
[06:55] <Mantice> Fedora
[06:55] <jbmagic> Dr_Willis i guess it wont be so bad to download a new .iso version of ubantu when it ever comes out and reinstall the apps  over again
[06:55] <Mantice> GU
[06:55] <Mantice> or somthing
[06:55] <lampshade> Anyone do circuit simulation?
[06:55] <RichART1> i'm afraid too coz of my windows programs (favorites mind you) that won't work anymore
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  i look it as a every 6 mo 'house' cleaning. :P
[06:55] <Mantice> Yeah Im going to have to kill my self
[06:55] <chameleon> any one point me to the right distro to run a sever on ?
[06:56] <Mantice> mIRC = friend
[06:56] <RichART1> ::_jason:: and of deleted something very necessary....like drivers N shit
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> mIRC = Crud.
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:56] <intelikey> lampshade  ?
[06:56] <Mantice> mIRC = Crud
[06:56] <Mantice> ~_~
[06:56] <intelikey> oh no sorry lampshade
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> xchat = good.
[06:56] <IdleOne> mirc=could of been a beautiful linux client
[06:56] <dabaR> you are all doing assignments, which are always true.
[06:56] <_jason> RichART1: there are usually good alternatives available, but I understand it would be difficult to get rid of windows altogether.  You can't spare 2GB?
[06:56] <jbmagic> Dr_Willis is that how often a new version of ubantu come out
[06:56] <hadi> do I have gdesklet package deb?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> mirc = creeping feature obsession. :P
[06:56] <wastrel> Dr_Willis:  i dist-upgraded warty->hoary->breezy with minimal problems
[06:56] <RichART1> ::_jason:: and if i knew more about what i was doing I cud afford 2 make a braver move like that!
[06:56] <intelikey> !start a irc war
[06:56] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  new release every 6mo.
[06:56] <whatwhat> dabaR i can now it works very thanks :p no the way you tell to me but it works now thanks :p thet problema was i try to install not from root or use the fakeroot but install it only whith one acount ... single very thanks
[06:57] <intelikey> !start a client war
[06:57] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey
[06:57] <RichART1> ::_jason:: i've got 4gigs free
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> wastrel,  :P and how many peopel ya see in here every day that have 'issues' :P
[06:57] <_jason> RichART1: you only need 2 for ubuntu
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> but onepersons minimal problem.. could be anothers BIG problem.
[06:57] <RichART1> really?
[06:57] <_jason> RichART1: that's what it says on the install disk
[06:57] <Madpilot> RichART1: a standard isntall of Ubuntu is around 1.8Gb
[06:57] <Madpilot> install, even...
[06:57] <RichART1> really?
[06:57] <jbmagic> when was the date of ubantu last update?
[06:58] <RichART1> damn
[06:58] <RichART1> ok, i'll try again w/ the install
[06:58] <Mantice> I wonder if I could convert my school to go with linux
[06:58] <RichART1> see u guys in a few then
[06:58] <_jason> RichART1: make sure you have 4gb of free space so the partitioner can do its thing
[06:58] <Madpilot> jbmagic: October 2005 - next version is due out mid-April/06
[06:58] <jbmagic> ok thanks
[06:59] <jessy> hello
[06:59] <intelikey> _jason ? 4 for 2  ?
[06:59] <RichART1> ::CPU:: 1-Intel Pentium M processor 1.80GHz, 899MHz, 0KB (70% Load) .:. ::RAM:: usage: 676/1024MB (66.02%) .:. ::GFX:: MOBILITY RADEON 9000, ::Display:: 1400x1050/32bit/60Hz
[06:59] <RichART1> ::OS:: Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600), ::installed for:: 4w 2d 6h 35m, ::uptime:: 2h 35m .:. ::HDDs:: 4.84GB/33.0GB(14.6%) free
[06:59] <Mantice> Omg Obliven comes out on windows ... in may 30th
[06:59] <jessy> someone here is using eclipse ?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  "dapper" is the next relsase due out in like 2 mo.
[06:59] <RichART1> there, that's what i have currently
[06:59] <odla> anyone else having problems with totem playing movies on dapper?
[06:59] <RichART1> see it?
[06:59] <livid> hrmm...for some reason it liked my password this time
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  the 'version' number - is the date of release I belive.
[06:59] <livid> so, the default install of ubuntu doesn't have gcc?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> livid,  it can be easially installed later.
[06:59] <Madpilot> RichART1: with those hardware specs, you shouldn't have trouble running Ubuntu
[07:00] <RichART1> ok, i'm going for it then!
[07:00] <RichART1> thx 4 the vote of confidence
[07:00] <livid> Dr_Willis, yea...but it seems like there should be at least some sort of c compiler installed
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> livid,  not really :P
[07:00] <RichART1> cya inna few
[07:00] <livid> Dr_Willis, yea really :P
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> livid,  with that logic - ubuntu would come on 2+ CD's
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> livid,  apt-get install build-essential  there ya go.
[07:00] <cobra_> alguem poderia me ajudar ..
[07:01] <RichART1> wait, gotta finish hacking this porn site 1st - LOL
[07:01] <jbmagic> for partition best to have only /home, / and /swap?
[07:01] <intelikey> livid  the standard ubuntu argument is 'anyone that can use gcc knows how to install gcc'
[07:01] <wastrel> i think the idea is, if you can operate gcc, you should be able to figure out how to istall it
[07:01] <cobra_> estou instalando uma wireless dwl 520 ...
[07:01] <cobra_> ja carreguei o modulo acx_pci
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> livid,  why not comal, an forth, and so on and so on.. and emacs. and tex. and ... ect.. its kept to a minimum  for a reason.
[07:01] <livid> Dr_Willis, well, inserting a second cd is much quicker then finding/installing all of these things...I agree I like it on one disk, but lets keep to it 1 dvd. ;)
[07:01] <dabaR> !es
[07:01] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:01] <cobra_> mais o tal do wlan nao esta carregando ..
[07:01] <Madpilot> jbmagic: swap isn't really needed, depending on how much ram yo've got
[07:01] <wastrel> that's portugese
[07:01] <Madpilot> !pt
[07:01] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:01] <cobra_> ok !
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> livid,  of corse the problem with all the packages ondisk.. is that often they get updated so fast..  you end up downloading them anyway
[07:02] <livid> Dr_Willis, I understand, and I like that in many ways, but there is something nice about having some basic apps installed.
[07:02] <jetscreamer> !br
[07:02] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:02] <livid> Dr_Willis, Gaim is installed...and it is super lame :)
[07:02] <Razor-X> Dr_Willis: Not everyone has an internet connection waiting for them.
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> livid,  i just keep a little script that apt-get installs the stuff i need.. and i back it up. and rerun it on a clean install. :P
[07:02] <livid> Dr_willis, yea...I suppose so. but you can update them more leisurely ;)
[07:02] <wastrel> <3 gaim.  livid is a meanie  /me cries
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> heh heh
[07:03] <Razor-X> wastrel: ......
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> Now look! you hurt his feelings!
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:03] <Arafangi1n> Does anybody use OpenOffice.org for overhead presentations? (On linux - how do they do it?)  I want to use it such that I have the program on my laptop, but the actual presentation on the overhead projector.
[07:03] <Razor-X> If you want to get passionate about your IM client of choice, I suggest you go to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:03] <livid> Razor-x, exactly...
[07:03] <vladuz976> i am trying to compile a library for enlightenment 17 i am getting this error "undefined macro AC_DEFINE AC_MSG_ERROR" what does that mean? anybody here who can help?
[07:03] <livid> Razor-X, hehe...;)
[07:03] <intelikey> livid "some basic"  like bash grep less cut mount.... `ls /*bin`   ?
[07:03] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  does your video-out port work?
[07:04] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: I do not have video-out
[07:04] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  so the computer that is running the projector will not be your laptop?
[07:04] <jsestri2> hi, I'm trying to install Dapper Flight 4, and it would appear the it does not have the ability to detect an onboard network device...any ideas?
[07:04] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: It will be.
[07:04] <Razor-X> vladuz976: Not too sure, but I'm assuming that the source is missing a #define. Which basically means, you're either missing a library, or your source is corupt for some reason.
[07:04] <ALL4N> hey
[07:04] <livid> intelikey, yes. I understand about /*bin. thanks.
[07:04] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: I have VGA out.
[07:04] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  your vga port works then
[07:05] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: Yes
[07:05] <Razor-X> Jestre: What's the output of ``lspci -v'' in pastebin?
[07:05] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  openoffice impress works very much like powerpoint.
[07:05] <graft> hellzo... has anyone ever had issues with NETDEV WATCHDOG?
[07:05] <jsestri2> Razor-X: are you talking to me?
[07:05] <ALL4N> I've managed to delete the original sudoer here, (I created a new one, and checked the administrative tasks in user options) and now I'm not able to do administrative tasks
[07:05] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: I actually don't use powerpoint.
[07:06] <intelikey> livid no. i'm just asking why you feel that not installing gcc by default is "somehow less than a working linux" system ?
[07:06] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  neither do i :]
[07:06] <cafuego> Arafangi1n: if you need the external vga to work, check out MergedFB. (google)
[07:06] <jsestri2> Razor-X: how do i run that command, I can't even install the os...
[07:06] <ALL4N> don't ask why, since I checked that the new user can do administrative tasks
[07:06] <_jason> ALL4N: did you delete the original sudo user or the original sudoers file?
[07:06] <ALL4N> _jason, I created a new user
[07:06] <Mantice> I was about to buy a 300 $ lap top 1.7 ghz but parents said no and its my own money!!!
[07:06] <cafuego> Arafangi1n: Though on most of my machines, if i boot with the projector plugged in, X is mirrored.
[07:06] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  do you need to compose the presentation?  or do you already have it in a different format
[07:06] <ALL4N> _jason, and then deleted the old sudoer using the new user
[07:06] <Razor-X> Jestre: Oh! Meh!
[07:06] <Madpilot> Mantice: so move out :P
[07:06] <ALL4N> somehow, the new user is no sudoer
[07:06] <Razor-X> Jestre: It refuses to install due to the network issue?
[07:07] <_jason> ALL4N: paste the output of the 'groups' command
[07:07] <Arafangi1n> cafuego: That's interesting, I'll have to test that.
[07:07] <jsestri2> Razor-X: should i just skip that step? and fix it after install?
[07:07] <Razor-X> Mantice: That's quite typical of my parents.
[07:07] <Razor-X> jsestri2: Yeah.
[07:07] <Arafangi1n> cafuego: But I was hoping more of a Desktop on screen0, and the actual presentation on screen1, which is controlled by ooimpress2 on screen0
[07:07] <livid> god, quit talking about your parents ruling your lives, you are making me feel old :P
[07:07] <Arafangi1n> cafuego: If that makes sense?
[07:07] <jsestri2> Matice: that sucks, where were you buying it from...link? hah
[07:07] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: Assume I already have a presentation composed.
[07:07] <Razor-X> jsestri2: You can always try and compile a kernel module. But, I suggest you also be running Breezy.
[07:07] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: I want to SHOW it.
[07:07] <cafuego> Arafangi1n: It makes sense, but i think you may be SOL.
[07:07] <amphi> livid: you are
[07:08] <Arafangi1n> cafuego: Windows and Mac do this fine.
[07:08] <livid> amphi, heh. and how do you know that?
[07:08] <jsestri2> Razor-X: jesus, im a dope, i already have that working, i should be able to run that command that way...jeez
[07:08] <Razor-X> jsestri2: Meh. 's fine.
[07:08] <amphi> livid: standard MO, jumping to conclusions ;)
[07:08] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  dual monitor setup like that requires xinerama i believe
[07:08] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: Ok.
[07:08] <livid> amphi, ;) I am only 26 :P
[07:08] <jsestri2> Razor-X: I was told that i need to get into Dapper though so that i can use sound. Breezy is apparently incompatable with my onboard audio.
[07:09] <intelikey> amphi livid's not old.....
[07:09] <jsestri2> Razor-X so run that command and pastebin it here?
[07:09] <cafuego> Arafangi1n: it's not something that X makes particularly easy or intuitive.
[07:09] <amphi> Arafangi1n: or mergeFB perhaps
[07:09] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  the way i did it was just to mirror the display, controlling the presentation from my laptop with keyboard commands
[07:09] <Razor-X> jsestri2: Dapper, at this point in time, is a little bit on the unstable side. So, caveat emptor.
[07:09] <Razor-X> jsestri2: It would help, ja.
[07:09] <livid> intelikey, you tell him. :P
[07:09] <jsestri2> Razor-X be abck in a bit
[07:09] <graft> goo... does anyone have any insights about this? my damn wireless card keeps switching access points because of "NETDEV WATCHDOG"
[07:09] <Arafangi1n> cafuego: Today (Fortunately I haven't actually had to do presentations yet), my laptop reverted from doing cloned mode to strict one-monitor mode - perhaps it's to do with the second monitor being plugged in :(
[07:10] <graft> which bites... anyone ever had to deal with this?
[07:10] <odla> can someone help me with some dvd problems i'm having.  i can't seem to use the dvd player but i've got libdvdcss2 and libdvdread3 installed...am i missing something else?
[07:10] <amphi> strewth, consider me told - I didn't realise this was #gerontophobia ;)
[07:10] <graft> odla: um, a movie player?
[07:10] <odla> graft: i've tried totem and xine
[07:10] <graft> and they say?
[07:11] <intelikey> amphi lol
[07:11] <odla> totem says 'no reason' and xine tells me that either i don't have proper permissions or that i'm missing a plugin
[07:11] <jetscreamer> odla: sometimes there is no /dev/dvd symlink to /dev/hdwhatever
[07:11] <wastrel> graft:  i had that problem, was advised to start the card driver with associate=0  argument
[07:11] <jetscreamer> odla: there is xine-check
[07:11] <ALL4N> _jason, allan adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[07:12] <graft> wastrel: err, who what now?
[07:12] <_jason> ALL4N: what does 'sudo echo hi' do?
[07:12] <wastrel> graft:  wifi
[07:12] <ALL4N> _jason, nothing
[07:12] <ALL4N> just a new line
[07:12] <odla> jetscreamer: thanks...i just fixed it
[07:12] <graft> wastrel: i mean... how do i start the card driver with said argument?
[07:12] <jetscreamer> how
[07:13] <thelsdj> is there some magic way to get totem-gstreamer to play dvds that i'm missing or is that just broken?
[07:13] <thelsdj> (in dapper)
[07:13] <Razor-X> Mind me if I become a tad bit... inattentive, because I'm not very used to irssi as my main client.
[07:13] <_jason> ALL4N: have you logged out and back in yet?
[07:13] <graft> wastrel: err, nm maybe i got it
[07:13] <wastrel> graft:  you can do it with modprobe or put it in /etc/modules.conf   what is your card driver?
[07:13] <jetscreamer> thelsdj: ask odla :)
[07:13] <graft> wastrel: orinoco_pci... not sure it takes such arguments
[07:14] <wastrel> yeah it depends on the driver
[07:14] <ALL4N> _jason, after deleting the original sudoer?
[07:14] <_jason> ALL4N: sure
[07:14] <thelsdj> jetscreamer: i got one of those
[07:14] <ALL4N> I can try
[07:14] <_jason> ALL4N: k
[07:15] <thelsdj> jetscreamer: /dev/dvd points to /dev/hdc
[07:15] <ALL4N> I think  I did
[07:15] <wastrel> someone had this problem yesterday, with sudoers
[07:15] <_jason> ALL4N: you probably did, I just want to rule that out before the next thing I suggest...
[07:15] <thelsdj> odla: how did you fix it?
[07:15] <wastrel> they were messing around with /etc/group and removed themelf from the admin group
[07:15] <LinuxTitan> anyone know where I can download libxine-dev(xine-lib-1.1.1)?
[07:15] <Razor-X> LinuxTitan: Why're ya asking?
[07:15] <intelikey> _jason which is ?    boot to single ?
[07:16] <_jason> intelikey: boot to recovery and look at /etc/sudoers
[07:16] <LinuxTitan> Razor-X, so I can download it?
[07:16] <Razor-X> LinuxTitan: Well, you must have a reason for using the libs. To compile an app?
[07:17] <LinuxTitan> yes.
[07:17] <LinuxTitan> but I'm not on ubuntu at the moment.
[07:17] <LinuxTitan> and I need xine-lib-1.1.1
[07:17] <LinuxTitan> and I noticed that libxine-dev from dapper drake has it
[07:17] <bimberi> !info libxine-dev dapper
[07:17] <ubotu> libxine-dev: (the xine video player library, development packages), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1.1.1+ubuntu2-3 (dapper), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 512 kB
[07:17] <LinuxTitan> I'm not on ubuntu
[07:17] <Razor-X> LinuxTitan: You can't obtain them from the repos? (I'm not on Ubuntu at the moment, either).
[07:17] <bimberi> LinuxTitan: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[07:17] <LinuxTitan> thats what I'm asking
[07:17] <LinuxTitan> what is the repos url?
[07:17] <Razor-X> LinuxTitan: Then go on the Ubuntu packages site, and download the package you need.
[07:18] <edward_> hi
[07:18] <intelikey> !info libxine-dev dapper
[07:18] <RichART1> wonder why its taking so long 2 hack this site?
[07:18] <ubotu> libxine-dev: (the xine video player library, development packages), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1.1.1+ubuntu2-3 (dapper), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 512 kB
 ^
[07:18] <Razor-X> intelikey: Meh, I think that's ben posted already.
[07:18] <intelikey> oh so it has   sorry
[07:18] <LinuxTitan> why do I want the info?
[07:18] <amphi> has anyone tried the ipw2200 'master mode' driver here?
[07:19] <LinuxTitan> that gives me no url to the repo
[07:19] <Razor-X> LinuxTitan: Go to the website above. (http://packages.ubuntu.com/)
[07:19] <Razor-X> LinuxTitan: I suggest you read a little better.
[07:19] <wastrel> amphi:  my card uses ipw2200  - dunno what you mean by master mode though
[07:19] <intelikey> you asked where you could find that.... LinuxTitan i didn't notice that someone had already said that.
[07:19] <amphi> wastrel: aka access point mode
[07:19] <wastrel> ahh.  no i haven't done that
[07:20] <intelikey> LinuxTitan the url is in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:20] <amphi> wastrel: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=9342819&forum_id=38938
[07:20] <Arafangi1n> wastrel, cafuego: Looks like that the _ONLY_ way to do it is to _mirror_, not _clone_ the screen :(
[07:20] <bimberi> jetscreamer: :)
[07:20] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  i used mirroring when i set mine up.  not sure what clone is or what the difference is
[07:21] <wastrel> amphi:  very interesting
[07:21] <bonggnu> good morning
[07:21] <papa_lic> morning
[07:21] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: Clone allows the two desktops to differ in size and refresh.
[07:21] <bonggnu> anyone has migrated from Breezy to Dapper?
[07:22] <papa_lic> shit
[07:22] <allan> _jason, can't even log back in
[07:22] <bonggnu> throw apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[07:22] <amphi> wastrel: yeah - I might give a go tomorrow
[07:22] <Arafangi1n> cafuego: Looks like that rebooting _does_ reset the dual-screen status.
[07:22] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  ah yes,  i had to bump my lcd down to 1024x768 in order to get the projector working properly
[07:22] <papa_lic> I dont phucking understan whats the problem with estonian langugage
[07:22] <_jason> allan: what does it say
[07:22] <bonggnu> i am evaluate it
[07:23] <seth_oh`boy> I give up on trying to attempt to set up this wireless lan...
[07:23] <allan> _jason, gdm does not start, so I logged in in terminal
[07:23] <allan> _jason, and I can't restart gdm, because no sudo  :p
[07:23] <_jason> allan: erm that doesn't sound like a sudo problem anymore
[07:23] <TiG4> Can someone explain to me how the weather feature works in Evolution in the calendar, I already found my city and selected it but now what?
[07:23] <amphi> allan: does startx work?
[07:23] <Arafangi1n> wastrel, cafuego: I think I'll have to reboot into windows to do presentations. That sucks :(
[07:24] <papa_lic> guys
[07:24] <intelikey> startx should work for user    unless you are / mounted nosuid
[07:24] <wastrel> :[
[07:24] <papa_lic> can ubuntu and win be in the same pc?
[07:24] <intelikey> allan ^
[07:24] <papa_lic> simultaneously?
[07:24] <seth_oh`boy> I'm starting to like Ubuntu.
[07:24] <TiG4> papa_lic, yes
[07:24] <Madpilot> papa_lic: sure
[07:24] <TiG4> papa_lic, its called "Dual-Booting"
[07:24] <Slaj_R> When I try to use apt-get to add the jre plugin for firefox, I get "couldn't find package."  What's the best way to install?
[07:24] <papa_lic> and one can be installed after win is installed?
[07:24] <Razor-X> papa_lic: Errrr? Estonian?
[07:24] <allan> seth_oh`boy: ubuntu rocks
[07:24] <seth_oh`boy> I have Windows and Ubuntu on my computer now
[07:24] <_jason> ubotu: tell Slaj_R about java
[07:24] <intelikey> papa_lic i hope so cause they both live on this 610mb hdd   :)
[07:25] <robotgeek> seth_oh`boy: what wireless card?
[07:25] <papa_lic> Razor-X: yup
[07:25] <seth_oh`boy> ^_^
[07:25] <TiG4> Can someone explain to me how the weather feature works in Evolution in the calendar, I already found my city and selected it but now what?
[07:25] <Razor-X> papa_lic: If you want to talk about Estonian, I suggest you go to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:25] <papa_lic> i  tried live-cd
[07:25] <seth_oh`boy> Broadcom
[07:25] <papa_lic> and it just stucks in default settings in estonian
[07:25] <Razor-X> This place isn't the plae to discuss Estonian, or any other language.
[07:25] <Razor-X> Not even C ;).
[07:25] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell seth_oh`boy about ndiswrapper
[07:25] <seth_oh`boy> Acer Aspire Broadcom 4318
[07:25] <papa_lic> I meant taht ubuntu in estoaninan language package  stopped at login screen
[07:26] <seth_oh`boy> I've been using ndiswrapper
[07:26] <Mordof> how do i test a screensaver?
[07:26] <seth_oh`boy> I've installed the driver and it doesn't work I think I need
[07:26] <Razor-X> papa_lic: Ah.
[07:26] <Mordof> in dapper there is no preview button
[07:26] <Razor-X> papa_lic: My bad.
[07:26] <papa_lic> yup
[07:26] <seth_oh`boy> bcmwl5a.inf and not just bcmwl5
[07:26] <papa_lic> it gives me the login screen and doe not accept any users or passwords
[07:27] <ALL4N> amphi, yes.. startx worked
[07:28] <rob__> can someone tell me how to run a excutable java jar file?
[07:28] <intelikey> but your sudo is still hosed ALL4N
[07:28] <amphi> ALL4N: cool - that's what I use generally, I don't use a ?dm
[07:28] <Mantice> http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Laptops/Laptops/Other/auction-48448361.htm
[07:28] <ALL4N> intelikey, yepps
[07:28] <papa_lic> umm...does anyone know that might there be problems ubuntu live-cd + win nt 4.0
[07:28] <amphi> ALL4N: why? failure to use visudo? ;)
[07:28] <ALL4N> so now I am back to the original problem.. how to fix sudo, without any permissiosn
[07:28] <p0windah> any progress with xgl and compviz for ubuntu ?
[07:29] <ALL4N> amphi, yes, I don't have this user in the sudoers list
[07:29] <papa_lic> intelikey: the solution you gave me yesterday did not work
[07:29] <Mantice> I cant move out im like 16 where the fuck would I go... I live in country in New Zealand
[07:29] <Madpilot> papa_lic: the LiveCD doesn't touch the installed OS, so it shouldn't matter
[07:29] <p0windah> Mantice: I moved out at 17, two of my sisters did it at 16
[07:29] <intelikey> ALL4N can you boot to single user mode and add yourself to the   admin  group ?
[07:29] <_jason> ALL4N: so I suppose sudo still does not work? boot in recovery mode and make sure your /etc/sudoers looks like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7021
[07:29] <Mantice> You have know idea where I live :(
[07:29] <ALL4N> intelikey, I think I am in the admin group
[07:29] <_jason> ALL4N: make sure you still are
[07:29] <Mantice> So can I move in :)
[07:30] <p0windah> Mantice: I have a very good idea, we lived in qld at the time - yes it was hard
[07:30] <intelikey> papa_lic i don't recall what i might have sujested yesterday or what it concerned ?
[07:30] <Mantice> Dude I ant leaving my computer you can come pick me up
[07:30] <TiG4> Can someone explain to me how the weather feature works in Evolution in the calendar, I already found my city and selected it but now what?
[07:30] <dhalgren> hi
[07:30] <Mantice> I have no car by the way
[07:30] <Mantice> So I will have to carry it out
[07:30] <Mantice> its a box on weeals lol
[07:30] <seth_oh`boy> I can access my windows driver from my window partion from linux, but the windows doesn't have a .inf file so do i just use another .inf file that supposely goes with the .sys file?
[07:30] <Mantice> server box :)
[07:30] <p0windah> Mantice: I'm almost 30 now, still dont have a car and work as a freelancer in HK
[07:30] <intelikey> ALL4N  type  /exec -o group    right here in your chat client
[07:31] <p0windah> Mantice: quit making excuses and whining - you sound like a pom
[07:31] <Mantice> lolz0r
[07:31] <Mantice> Hong Kong ?
[07:31] <ALL4N> sh: group: command not found
[07:31] <p0windah> yup
[07:31] <Mantice> Wow you must have the coolest animie
[07:31] <wastrel> groups
[07:31] <Mantice> :)
[07:31] <_jason> ALL4N: groups
[07:31] <ALL4N> aha
[07:31] <papa_lic> why do I need one?
[07:31] <ALL4N> exec -o groups
[07:31] <Mantice> what a shame it ant in english
[07:31] <ALL4N> sorry
[07:31] <p0windah> cars are extremely over-rated
[07:31] <concept10> I have a car for sale
[07:31] <ALL4N> allan fax tape
[07:31] <papa_lic> the public transportation system works great
[07:31] <Razor-X> Excuse me, people.
[07:32] <ALL4N> suddenly no more in the admin group
[07:32] <Mantice> Not in country
[07:32] <abcd> does canonical provide relocation ? :D
[07:32] <Razor-X> Does this have ANYTHING to do with Ubuntu?
[07:32] <Mantice> maybe i can find a horse
[07:32] <Razor-X> If not, I suggest you take it to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:32] <dhalgren> i have installed 5.10 on an asus a5ec laptop, and it hung when stating hotplug module. got around that with help from the forum page, and have installed new alsa version as suggested, but now there is no soundcard configured. sound is hda-intel. how do i configure this card manually, please?
[07:32] <_jason> ALL4N: that's nice, heh reboot in recovery mode and do 'adduser your_username admin'
[07:32] <Razor-X> And I can only suggest, an op can do more.
[07:32] <mzuverink> TiG4: after you select your city, then restart evolution and then look at your calendar, at the top of each day youll have a temp range and a conditions forecast
[07:32] <abcd> anybody here working in canonical ?
[07:32] <Razor-X> papa_lic: You can try out an Estonian channel, if it's easier to understand.
[07:32] <intelikey> ALL4N you are in " allan fax tape "  but not admin    you will have to fix that to use sudo
[07:32] <ALL4N> _jason, you saw I was in a bunch of other groups before I logged out
[07:32] <p0windah> Razor-X: I had a meeting with the ubuntu guys in Hong Kong yesterday if thats more "on-topic"
[07:32] <_jason> ALL4N: I saw yeah
[07:33] <Mantice> p0windah is every thing cencered over there?
[07:33] <ALL4N> anyhow..  I'll go recovery mode..
[07:33] <Mantice> Or is that the grate firewall of china
[07:33] <ALL4N> thanks folks
[07:33] <_jason> ALL4N: I'll give you the list after you add yourself to 'admin' so that you can put yourself back in all of them
[07:33] <papa_lic> Razor-X: is there one?
[07:33] <Razor-X> p0windah: Nope. This is the official Ubuntu support channel.
[07:33] <ALL4N> _jason, all right.. brb
[07:33] <Razor-X> papa_lic: Try #ubuntu-<two-letter-language-code>.
[07:33] <wastrel> that's the 2nd time in 2 days that's happened.
[07:33] <Mantice> This channel is the best... I think I was chating in the most restrivtive IRC chat room in the world the other day
[07:33] <wastrel> is it common for ppl to drop themselves out of admin?
[07:33] <p0windah> Mantice: HK is a special administrative zone, legal system based on common law, etc. we enjoy more freedoms than north americans right now
[07:34] <Mantice> That cool
[07:34] <_jason> wastrel: it's a bug with using the gui to give admin, I've seen it a few times and I think it's been reported as well
[07:34] <Mantice> And the high speed broadband :)
[07:34] <p0windah> we have 1Gig home service
[07:34] <papa_lic> Razor-X: no help
[07:34] <Razor-X> papa_lic: Ah, sorry :\.
[07:34] <p0windah> papa_lic: what was your question ?
[07:34] <papa_lic> looks like Im the onlyone from that country
[07:34] <zphinx> hong kong is still under the jurisdiction of the peoples republic of china isnt it?
[07:34] <TiG4> mzuverink, nope, dont see anything, will it show it on the full month view?
[07:35] <papa_lic> in estonian language package
[07:35] <p0windah> zphinx: no
[07:35] <zphinx> formosa?
[07:35] <papa_lic> the os stops at lognin screen
[07:35] <papa_lic> accepts no users nor passwords
[07:35] <zphinx> p0windah: Wasnt it given back to china not long ago?
[07:35] <Razor-X> Ugghhh..
[07:35] <mzuverink> TiG4: no just for the next week, and you have to  be in day mode, click on the box by the weather calendar
[07:35] <Mantice> Man Ubuntu is easyer than windows to install.... I wonder what would hapen if gates opened up a IRC chat room
[07:35] <Razor-X> Please take Hong Kong to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:36] <Mantice> slash Disconect
[07:36] <Razor-X> Lest you want everyone in this channel parading the rights of their own coutry.
[07:36] <p0windah> zphinx: pre 1997 it was a british colony, post it reverted back to China, but to maintain economic and political relationships, china allowed Hong Kong to become a "special administrative region" - whereby it basically governs itself
[07:36] <zphinx> oh
[07:36] <TiG4> mzuverink, yeah im in day mode, still dont see it, wierd
[07:36] <robotgeek> p0windah: zphinx please use #ubuntu-offtopic, really
[07:36] <intelikey> Mantice one thidr of the peopel in here would become 'script kiddies'     llllll
[07:37] <Mantice> script kiddies :S I rather code from scratch
[07:37] <p0windah> papa_lic: what'd you do to break it ?
[07:37] <mzuverink> Mantice,: I just got done installing Win Xp on a box here at home to do online banking, it took 6 hours between install and updates, installing av and everything else, meanwhile I made 4 vm on another box and upgraded thenm all
[07:37] <nonick> Mantice what did u break ?
[07:37] <Mantice> Mantice broke nothing
[07:37] <Mantice> hes asking me
[07:37] <Mantice> so you better help me
[07:37] <Mantice> lol
[07:37] <papa_lic> p0windah: didint break it
[07:37] <Arafangi1n> mzuverink: You need winxp just for internet banking?
[07:38] <papa_lic> got live-cd from post
[07:38] <Mantice> Use linux
[07:38] <papa_lic> inserted it into cd-rom
[07:38] <Arafangi1n> mzuverink: Which bank? Mine goes fine in firefox on linux.
[07:38] <papa_lic> and it just halts
[07:38] <papa_lic> tried every possible way
[07:38] <Mantice> some script kidey might steal your password and buy a laptop :)
[07:38] <mzuverink> Arafangiln: yes, actually my linuxphobe wife needed ti
[07:38] <Madpilot> papa_lic: have you tried other liveCDs? Sometimes you get bad CDs, or they've been scratched in the mail
[07:38] <p0windah> papa_lic: livecd or install cd ?
[07:38] <papa_lic> live-cd
[07:39] <papa_lic> it was a 5-pack
[07:39] <mzuverink> Arafangiln: Portland Federal Credit Union and SeaFirst bank
[07:39] <papa_lic> 5 sets
[07:39] <papa_lic> you think it might be just the one cd?
[07:39] <_jason> I'm gonna go, if ALL4N comes back, someone link him to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9039 which has his group list.  Thanks
[07:39] <Arafangi1n> mzuverink: I guess the computer came with it, or you could've raised the $400 cost issue.
[07:39] <papa_lic> tried other set on different pc and did the same shit
[07:39] <intelikey> Mantice ssshhh
[07:39] <p0windah> papa_lic: and you've tried pulling out the cd and carefuly cleaning it ?
[07:39] <p0windah> papa_lic: thats probably because the CD is roasted :)
[07:40] <TiG4> mzuverink, could you take a screenshot of what your talking about?
[07:40] <intelikey> Mantice i need a new lappy.....
[07:40] <wastrel> can't firefox lie about the user-agent?  that might get you into sites that check for IE
[07:40] <papa_lic> p0windah: so you think that I should order another 5-pack?
[07:40] <mzuverink> Arafangiln: actually the machine did not come with XP, it came out of the junk pile at the computer store by my house and the XP came from Emule
[07:41] <p0windah> papa_lic: clean it first, try again and then try to boot from another linux livecd(like madpilot suggested) - then think about ordering another pack
[07:41] <Mantice> Bad cd's happen so do bad ISO's .... its sad
[07:42] <Mantice> I downloaded 4.7 fedora core 4 dvd only to have it no validate on install
[07:42] <Mantice> :(
[07:42] <Mantice> and I have a 3 gb cap for the month
[07:42] <papa_lic> so you guuys think that the halt at login screen is not coding error but just some dirt on cd??
[07:42] <spikebike> mantice
[07:42] <spikebike> might have been a bad burn
[07:42] <Razor-X> papa_lic: Posibly.
[07:42] <spikebike> md5sum your ISO
[07:42] <Razor-X> *Possibly.
[07:42] <papa_lic> hmmz
[07:42] <papa_lic> ok
[07:42] <spikebike> and rsync if it's off
[07:42] <concept10> Anyone know about sessions?  (The .dmrc file in your home directory)
[07:42] <Razor-X> papa_lic: MD5SUM it, reburn it, and try it on a different machine.
[07:43] <papa_lic> where the heck do they limit download size?
[07:43] <Madpilot> papa_lic: it might be; it could also be a bug with your language version
[07:43] <mzuverink> TiG4: I dont have evolution, I use Sylpheed and Claws, but I tried it before I dumped it. But if you go to calendar, you will see on the right side a list of cal's, personal, birthdays and weather, check the box by weather and make sure personal is checked then got to day veiw, look at tomorrow and see the top of the day, the weather should be there
[07:43] <Mantice> I ant going with fedora core any way so :P
[07:43] <Mantice> Ubuntu = Gnome or the other one or somthing lol
[07:43] <Mantice> KDE
[07:44] <Razor-X> Mantice: It uses Gnome as a default WM, yes.
[07:44] <Razor-X> I don't use Gnome, though.
[07:44] <intelikey> Ubuntu = Gnome     kUbuntu = kde
[07:44] <mzuverink> TiG4: is it there?
[07:44] <Mantice> I use KDE at work not that i work much no more
[07:44] <Mantice> Gnome good ?
[07:44] <Mr_Eko> Hi
[07:44] <TiG4> mzuverink, in day view, you say look @ tomorrow
[07:44] <vladuz976> does ubuntu already have the new xorg?
[07:45] <TiG4> mzuverink, i can only see today
[07:45] <Mantice> More people in chat room so I guess its good
[07:45] <intelikey> but you can run 'nome on kubuntu  or kde on ubuntu   so it's just the default install packages
[07:45] <TiG4> mzuverink, and personal and weather are checked
[07:45] <Razor-X> Nor do I use KDE, heh.
[07:45] <Mantice> I went to the other website and it looked crapier i think so i went with ubentu
[07:45] <Mr_Eko> I'm getting started with Ubuntu and i would like to install kde
[07:45] <Razor-X> You can also try out ``Xubuntu'' for XFce.
[07:45] <TiG4> mzuverink, lemme show you what i have
[07:46] <mzuverink> TiG4:on the month view on the right side, click the next day
[07:46] <Mr_Eko> i already tried the apt-get install kubuntu-desktop but it doesn't do a thing
[07:46] <intelikey> Mr_Eko sudo apt-get kdebase
[07:46] <intelikey> Mr_Eko sudo apt-get install kdebase
[07:47] <mzuverink> TiG4: installing EEvolution go to #mzuverink
[07:47] <Mr_Eko>  Package kdebase has no installation candidate
[07:47] <intelikey> kdebase - KDE Base metapackage      <--- it does here....
[07:47] <Mr_Eko> where can i paste the complete error message?
[07:48] <Mantice> Are you guys feeling ok... You guys dont have the world domination thing going today.
[07:48] <intelikey> !pastebin
[07:48] <timfrost> !paste
[07:48] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[07:48] <ubotu> I guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[07:48] <intelikey> Mantice ?
[07:48] <Mantice> Wrong chat
[07:48] <Mantice> Yeah
[07:49] <Mantice> Ubuntu-offtopic for the win :)
[07:49] <Mr_Eko> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9040
[07:49] <ALL4N> _jason, works perfectly now  :)  thanks
[07:49] <Mantice> I was hooked on linux when i saw the screen savers... The rubix cube is 1337
[07:49] <ALL4N> _jason, I added all the groups using the GUI
[07:49] <Mantice> brb dinner
[07:49] <Mr_Eko> it's a fresh install
[07:50] <Mr_Eko> apart from all the hacks to make the wi-fi adapter work
[07:50] <intelikey> !repos
[07:50] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:50] <intelikey> Mr_Eko ^
[07:51] <liskl> anyone heard of a system info program that overlays the text about system status on the desktop transparently?
[07:52] <wastrel> liskl:  there's a couple ways to do that... gdesklets  maybe
[07:52] <liskl> thanks agian wastrel
[07:52] <intelikey> liskl hmmm sounds like eye candy gone to seed,   but hey i'm on console-only  so what do you expect from me...
[07:52] <well> go bash
[07:53] <intelikey> ok
[07:53] <liskl> lol intelikey
[07:53] <intelikey> i really do have things to do,,,, while it's quiet in here.
[07:53] <Mr_Eko> it's done
[07:54] <intelikey> cjul8r
[07:56] <Mr_Eko> now it's even worse
[07:56] <Mr_Eko> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9041
[07:56] <concept10> The fade out password prompt in Dapper needs to be changed back !
[07:57] <phillipc> how can I find out what package provides a certain file?
[07:57] <wastrel> phillipc:  apt-file i believe
[07:57] <stevenj> does anyone know if GTK 2.7 will be added back to dapper before release?
[07:58] <wastrel> phillipc:  for files on your system
[07:58] <timfrost> phillipc, 'dpkg -L <file>' if the package is installed. apt-file (from universe) will search the repositories
[07:58] <Mr_Eko> shit
[07:58] <Mr_Eko> don't know what to do
[07:58] <wastrel> heh i had it backwards
[07:59] <Mr_Eko> already did everything in the howto
[07:59] <stevenj> anyone work as a Information Security Officer?
[08:00] <skon> is it possible to install dapper live to hdd?
[08:00] <Madpilot> Mr_Eko: you might have messed up sources - can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list?
[08:00] <Mantice> back
[08:01] <_lemsx1_> stevenj: what's an information security officer? security engineering? (IT)
[08:01] <hd> yes
[08:02] <Mr_Eko> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9042
[08:03] <wastrel> yikes
[08:03] <stevenj> _lemsx1_, some companies may call it chief security officer-its basically a position that is the network "watchdog"
[08:03] <Madpilot> Mr_Eko: it's not working because you've got a really messed up sources.list
[08:04] <Mr_Eko> what should i do?
[08:04] <Mr_Eko> erase it?
[08:04] <Madpilot> Mr_Eko: have a look at this sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[08:04] <Mr_Eko> ok
[08:04] <_lemsx1_> stevenj: i work as a security engineer, but i'm not a senior security engineer (which might be what you called "chief"). i'm a network and company-wise (IT) watchdog :-)
[08:05] <Madpilot> Mr_Eko: your current sources.list has everything commented out except Universe, no wonder apt-get couldn't find anything
[08:05] <Mr_Eko> ok... so, i copied everything into my sources.list
[08:06] <robinl1> augh
[08:06] <robinl1> i dont feel so good
[08:06] <Madpilot> Mr_Eko: save it, run "sudo apt-get update", then try your isntall again
[08:06] <Madpilot> *install, even...
[08:07] <Mr_Eko> Thanks
[08:08] <Madpilot> Mr_Eko: np.
[08:08] <LoRd-Phr3x> Hi, has anyone installed XGL and compiz on Dapper Drake, with out an onboard graphics card?
[08:08] <LoRd-Phr3x> i mean with an onboard graphics card *
[08:08] <_lemsx1_> LoRd-Phr3x: I have done that with a Intel card
[08:08] <LoRd-Phr3x> sorry women problems, not thinking straight :p
[08:08] <_lemsx1_> _lemsx1_: i810 driver
[08:08] <Mr_Eko> _lemsx1_, and how does it behave
[08:09] <_lemsx1_> LoRd-Phr3x: you should drink some beer then ;-)
[08:09] <LoRd-Phr3x> did you need to install any new drivers?
[08:09] <_lemsx1_> Mr_Eko: slowish, but usable
[08:09] <LoRd-Phr3x> haha, might have a cc and dry later
[08:09] <stevenj> _lemsx1_, I see well I have a senior systems admin for about 7 years; however, recently I assumed the additional respon. of ISO...just wondering if any here are in that position..so many questions :)
[08:09] <_lemsx1_> LoRd-Phr3x: no new drivers
[08:09] <LoRd-Phr3x> a little pot and some solo will do me fine for now
[08:09] <Mr_Eko> if i use apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, can  i go to sleep and just wait?
[08:09] <LoRd-Phr3x> nice, did you have any troubles with it?
[08:10] <brydenn> k i have a wine problem... i deleted my c drive on accident
[08:10] <_lemsx1_> stevenj: ok. i'm sure there are a lot more of us here ;-)
[08:10] <brydenn> i was messing around in winecfg
[08:10] <brydenn> can anyone helP?
[08:10] <magenet> is ubuntu better thna fedora and mandrake?
[08:10] <var> read this: http://www.terrybisson.com/meat.html
[08:10] <whitynz> of course magenet
[08:10] <p0windah> magenet: atleast 23% better
[08:10] <var> that might help
[08:10] <_lemsx1_> magenet: by a mile ;-)
[08:11] <p0windah> magenet: some have even argued for 24%
[08:11] <concept10> offtopic: has anyone seen those new Volkswagen commericals?   Let it go or take this employee out?  Have you ever had a situation like this?
[08:16] <robotgeek> stevenj: offtopic, please?
[08:16] <mebaran151> I'm in dapper and neither my clock nor firefox work on AMD64?  Is this normal?
[08:16] <mf988> hello
[08:16] <mebaran151> and could anyone file a bugreport for me
[08:16] <mebaran151> as I don't have a webbroswer in which I am comfortable now
[08:16] <mf988> trying to modify a bootimg.bin (bootable floppy image)
[08:17] <_lemsx1_> stevenj: depending on the policies of the company. most companies have a zero tolerance for stuff like that... which means that he or she must be let go
[08:17] <Madpilot> mebaran151: install Opera :P
[08:17] <mf988> 1) what is the equivalent of rawrite in ubuntu ?
[08:17] <_lemsx1_> stevenj: if there is no policy, then one should be written for the next time
[08:17] <robotgeek> _lemsx1_: please, offtopic. stevenj
[08:17] <mebaran151> Madpilot: this actually gives me a good excuse to install it
[08:17] <mf988> 2) how can I 'rawrite' to a virtual floppy (I don' t have any physical floppy)
[08:17] <mf988> ?
[08:17] <_lemsx1_> stevenj: yep. offtopic :-)
[08:17] <mebaran151> could some one please check in the bug repo whether or not this issue is known
[08:17] <mebaran151> ?
[08:18] <brydenn> can someone please help me with WINE?
[08:18] <liquidindian> Can the archive manager deal with rar files split into parts?
[08:18] <timfrost> mf988, dd - use 'dd if=<file> of=/dev/fd0' to write the file to floppy in drive 0 (MSDOS A:)
[08:18] <stevenj> _lemsx1_,  heh
[08:19] <[nige] > anyone know how to configure exim4 and mailscanner
[08:19] <mf988> timfrost: except I don't have a floppy... (hardware)
[08:19] <timfrost> mf988, what do you mean 'virtual floppy'?
[08:20] <mf988> timfrost: I am on a laptop - no physical floppy
[08:20] <jack|ass> Has anyone gotten a dlink DWL-G520 to work in Ubuntu?  It sees the card and can see my WAP, but isn't able to pull an address.  It looks like it's having tx/rx errors.
[08:20] <_lemsx1_> [nige] : that usually involves spliting the in and out queues and adding some headers checking with "access" or one of those files
[08:20] <_lemsx1_> [nige] : you should do some googling... lot of reading
[08:20] <thelsdj> mf988: why do you need to rawrite if you don't have a floppy?
[08:20] <[nige] > _lemsx1_, i have split exim with the in and out queues but it didnt seem to read any of the mail
[08:21] <[nige] > _lemsx1_, the only think i find are the same guides
[08:21] <mf988> thelsdj: I need to modify a file in the bootimg.bin, then put it back together
[08:21] <_lemsx1_> [nige] : perhaps because is very simple to do ... that's why there are no more guides
[08:21] <monzie_> hi all
[08:21] <[nige] > _lemsx1_, i guess it was simple i would have got it working already :P
[08:21] <thelsdj> mf988: mount -o loop bootimg.bin /media/floppy
[08:22] <_lemsx1_> [nige] : i use postfix with mailscanner and i did just that. split the queues. tell postfix to HOLD messages in the in.queue if they have been received (header)
[08:22] <pepsi> what is the `adm` group.. GID 4
[08:22] <mf988> thelsdj: tx! will try
[08:22] <pepsi> is that short for admin or something?
[08:22] <pepsi> im guessing no
[08:22] <thelsdj> pepsi: i think adm is allowed to view logs
[08:22] <thelsdj> pepsi: yes it is short for admin
[08:22] <_lemsx1_> [nige] : and then tell mailscanner to pick messages from that queue and put it in the local delivery queue, where your mail server will then push it where it belongs
[08:22] <thelsdj> not sure what else its allowed to do
[08:22] <[nige] > okay
[08:22] <pepsi> thelsdj, i want to give myself permission to run synaptic
[08:23] <[nige] > means i have to go through the mailscanner.conf again
[08:23] <_lemsx1_> pepsi: adm and admin are 2 different beasts
[08:23] <[nige] > :S
[08:23] <pepsi> should i create a new group?
[08:23] <pepsi> and then chgrp synaptic to that?
[08:23] <_lemsx1_> pepsi: just add yourself to "admin" and use "sudo"
[08:23] <pepsi> i dotn want to use sudo
[08:23] <pepsi> :P
[08:23] <pepsi> i want permissions outright
[08:23] <_lemsx1_> [nige] : yes. i guess you just need to configure mailscanner now
[08:24] <[nige] > i thought i did
[08:24] <[nige] > :)
[08:24] <_lemsx1_> pepsi: change the uid of your user to 0 ;-)
[08:24] <pepsi> nah
[08:24] <pepsi> i dont ned that much
[08:24] <mf988> thelsdj: how can I make that device read/write (loopback)
[08:24] <mf988> ?
[08:24] <[nige] > i know i have specified both in and out going queues
[08:24] <thelsdj> pepsi: you could possibly setuid synaptic and make sure only group is allowed to execute it (and add yourself to that group)
[08:24] <thelsdj> pepsi: i would create new group for it
[08:24] <wastrel> pepsi synaptic will have to read & write package lists and download/install packages
[08:24] <thelsdj> mf988: not read/write by default?
[08:24] <pepsi> there is staff
[08:25] <pepsi> but it is a low id as well.. 60
[08:25] <mf988> thelsdj: well, the BOOTIMG.BIN is already on a loopback mounted .ISO
[08:25] <Mantice> this is creepy http://www.xpde.com/shots.php
[08:25] <[nige] > going to look back at the queues again.
[08:25] <thelsdj> mf988: copy it somewhere?
[08:25] <pepsi> i think ill use staff though
[08:25] <pepsi> seems appropriate
[08:25] <mebaran151> does anyone else have any trouble with the gnome clock
[08:25] <thelsdj> mf988: you'll have to recreate the iso then
[08:25] <mebaran151> I'm on AMD64, and it refuses to start
[08:26] <thelsdj> can't write to an iso
[08:26] <mf988> thelsdj: ok, will search
[08:26] <mf988> thelsdj: tx
[08:26] <_lemsx1_> pepsi: staff is junior admin... good
[08:26] <Mr_Eko> how do i install the drivers for the intel 910 graphic cards
[08:27] <sanjay> any site for utilities like in windows ... i am new to this
[08:27] <Madpilot> sanjay: there are masses of utilities included in Ubuntu - what did you want to do?
[08:27] <sanjay> like how do i connect to yahoo messenger pl
[08:27] <thelsdj> sanjay: gaim
[08:27] <liskl> anyone know a way to use php from a web page to exec a .sh?
[08:28] <Madpilot> sanjay: Applications menu --> Internet --> gAIM
[08:28] <wastrel> liskl:  what's the php equivalent of system() ?
[08:29] <_lemsx1_> liskl: like a cgi-bin ?
[08:29] <sanjay> madpilot: thanks
[08:29] <wastrel> liskl:  actually, i don't know whether it's possible
[08:29] <sanjay> i will just check
[08:29] <Dasnipa`> liskl, execute a shell script from php? sounds like a security exploit i hope its not possible
[08:29] <_lemsx1_> liskl: i agree with wastrel, unless there is a system() call on the script itself (if you own the script that is)
[08:29] <wastrel> i doubt the web server will have access to the shell binary
[08:30] <thelsdj> probably exec()
[08:30] <thelsdj> liskl: http://us3.php.net/manual/en/ref.exec.php
[08:31] <magenet> Liskl: if you use cpanel it lets u open ssh and exexecute .sh files from the php panel
[08:31] <sanjay> madpilot : thanks i am through with yahoo
[08:32] <monzie> hi all
[08:32] <monzie> i have a problem with my hdparm output
[08:32] <prada> anyone know if there is a repository serving beagle-0.20 anywhere ?
[08:32] <monzie> hdparm -i /dev/hda gives:
[08:33] <monzie> RawCHS 16383/16/63
[08:33] <monzie> and
[08:33] <liskl> thanks everyone, thelsdj helped most - there is a exec(); thanks man
[08:33] <monzie> CurrCHS  4047/16/255
[08:33] <thelsdj> prada: dapper has 0.2.1 i think
[08:34] <cafuego> it doth
[08:34] <prada> thelsdj: I am using dapper ... but let me check again
[08:34] <thelsdj> installing it now myself as i haven't tried beagle since installing ubuntu heh
[08:34] <liskl> building a way to send data over a serial connection for x10 devices
[08:34] <thelsdj> prada: its in universe
[08:34] <cafuego> Don't bother with beagle on breezy.
[08:35] <thelsdj> ya i am on dapper
[08:35] <cafuego> But do ensure you have a LOT of free ram ;-)
[08:35] <prada> do an apt-cache show ... it still shows me beagle_0.1.4
[08:35] <cafuego> !info beagle dapper
[08:35] <ubotu> beagle: (indexing and search tool for your personal data), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.4-0ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 740 kB, Installed size: 2368 kB
[08:35] <cafuego> That's odd.
[08:35] <cafuego> prada: ANyway, http://www.cafuego.net/ubuntu
[08:36] <prada> sweet ... thanks
[08:36] <thelsdj> cafuego: hrm, i was going to say is 1gb of ram enough? but then i remember i also run azureus which eats a few hundred mb heh
[08:37] <cafuego> thelsdj: I have 1.5GB and beagle isn't above eating 1GB
[08:37] <cafuego> thelsdj: i have a *huge* index, though.
[08:37] <thelsdj> hah hrm i've got ~350mb free right now (including cached)
[08:37] <prada> i thought the mem hogging was a lot less in 0.20 ..
[08:38] <wastrel> i have 768 MB - need to upgrade
[08:38] <cafuego> prada: it is a lot less to begin with, but not agter 14 days.
[08:38] <znelson> does anyone know about IPVS support in breezy? I thought it was in the kernels since 2.6.10 but apparently not
[08:39] <thelsdj> i have 2 work machines on my desk with 4gb of ram each hehe, my 1gb seems measly
[08:39] <Mantice> You should all join ubuntu-offtopic
[08:39] <Sp4rKy> hi
[08:39] <Sp4rKy> does anyone have openbox ?
[08:39] <cafuego> znelson: ipvs?
[08:39] <znelson> linux virtual server
[08:39] <thelsdj> znelson: which virtual server? i never heard of ipvs
[08:40] <cafuego> znelson: Oh yeah, it's in recentish kernels. Certainly in 2.6.12 I think (breezy)
[08:40] <znelson> www.linuxvirtualserver.org
[08:40] <wastrel> someone go to http://fridge.ubuntu.com/  in firefox & tell me if the page is rendering correctly?  i get a row of tabs in the middle of the flight4 announcement
[08:40] <znelson> hmm cause when I download the admin package, the installation says there's no support in the kernel
[08:40] <znelson> bummed me out
[08:40] <cafuego> wastrel: looks fine
[08:40] <Mantice> renders fine
[08:41] <Mantice> Get latestst firefox
[08:41] <Mantice> I notest that mozilla has load of bugs
[08:41] <Mantice> for rendering
[08:41] <prada> cafuego: the beagle deb includes support for wv1 etc. ?
[08:41] <thelsdj> znelson:  may not be enabled in the ubuntu kernel, have you cross referenced the .config file setting with a kernel that does have it?
[08:42] <znelson> thelsdj: I'm a relative newb, so no.. but will do that now
[08:42] <wastrel> me g'night
[08:42] <thelsdj> znelson: you apt-get install ipvsadm?
[08:42] <znelson> yeah
[08:43] <Mantice> how come http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ has people in there underware and ubuntu.com has none?
[08:43] <thelsdj> znelson: you might need to modprobe some modules
[08:44] <znelson> ok..
[08:44] <thelsdj> znelson: look in /boot/config-2.6.12* IPVS stuff sure seems to be enabled
[08:44] <Madpilot> Mantice: because The Fridge is cooler
[08:44] <znelson> checkin
[08:45] <Mantice> lol
[08:45] <thelsdj> znelson: ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/net/ipv4/ipvs
[08:45] <Mantice> If the fridge is cooler why would they have to take there clothes off
[08:45] <cafuego> Mantice: They're hot!
[08:46] <thelsdj> the fridge page is messed up in my firefox
[08:46] <thelsdj> the tabs show up at the bottom of the first page
[08:46] <Mantice> Well it looks hotter in ubuntu.com and colder in fridgeub . . ....
[08:46] <Mantice> This is kinda off topic but its ok as long as no ones asking questions
[08:47] <znelson> weird .. cause the package install gives me:
[08:47] <znelson> Setting up ipvsadm (1.24+1.21-1) ...
[08:47] <znelson> Kernel does not support IPVS!
[08:47] <liquidindian> Is "underware" some sort of jargon for a program that removes clothing?
[08:47] <thelsdj> znelson: modprobe ip_vs then try reinstalling it
[08:47] <Mantice> Yes
[08:48] <znelson> cool
[08:48] <thelsdj> znelson: just a guess, may not work
[08:48] <znelson> hmm i think i need to remove then reinstall it
[08:49] <Mantice> i might get an iPod later on in life when I have money
[08:49] <Mantice> so i can put linux on it
[08:49] <thelsdj> znelson: try dpkg-reconfigure ipvsadm
[08:49] <thelsdj> or something like that
[08:49] <spikebike> linux doesn't work on new ipods
[08:49] <znelson> ya
[08:49] <lockhead> how do i check how much disk usage i have?
[08:49] <ndlovu> hi all, I accidentally deleted a wiki database while trying to back it up (don't ask...). It seems that on an ext3 filesystem undelete is just about impossible. But are there tools that will let you search through freed inodes for the text that was in the files?
[08:50] <intelikey> lockhead df
[08:50] <ndlovu> lockhead: df -h
[08:50] <intelikey> df -h
[08:50] <intelikey> du /
[08:50] <Mantice> format C:
[08:50] <intelikey> du -s /
[08:50] <Mantice> Busts out windows commands ;)
[08:50] <lampshade> Is there a way to make gnome show previews of images in the basic file open dialog for programs?  I want to select images, but I have no idea since some of them are just long strings of random characters.  A preview would be awesome
[08:50] <Mantice> dont try my idea
[08:51] <ndlovu> lockhead: df = disk free; -h = human readable (it gives it to you in bytes, not blocks)
[08:51] <intelikey> there's no C: in linux  so it's ok to try that...
[08:51] <Mantice> lol
[08:51] <znelson> thelsdj: modprobe did the trick .. thanks
[08:51] <elkbuntu> Mantice, i had myself in tears when i tried doing something in dos the other week and tried linux commands :D
[08:51] <elkbuntu> tears of laughter of course.
[08:52] <lockhead> i would have tears of sorrow since i had to use dos
[08:52] <intelikey> :)
[08:52] <[nige] > where are mailscanner logs kept?
[08:52] <thelsdj> hrm so now i have beagle installed, how to put it to good use, bah gotta do my fstab
[08:53] <intelikey> [nige]  did you look in /var/log?
[08:53] <[nige] > yep looking through it at the moment
[08:54] <ndlovu> okay, is there some way to get a list of free but non-empty inodes on an ext3 filesystem?
[08:54] <intelikey> [nige]  did you  man mailscanner  ?
[08:54] <Mantice> Any one know any thing about SINA school firewall?
[08:54] <[nige] > hmmm
[08:54] <[nige] > i have been readin through a few guides,
[08:54] <[nige] > not sure if i have manned it yet
[08:55] <intelikey> well i've never used mailscanner but that is where i'd start.
[08:55] <fojackedddolt> blooh, i suck at IRC, is anyone here able to help me with a couple questions?
[08:56] <Mantice> maybe irc
[08:56] <Madpilot> fojackedddolt: please just ask
[08:56] <Mantice> we ant going to kill you
[08:56] <Mantice> ..
[08:56] <Arafangi1n> Is it possible to read ext3 filesystems in windows?
[08:56] <Arafangi1n> Surely someone has made a driver by now.
[08:56] <Mantice> i think theres a bug in my room
[08:56] <intelikey> "free but non-empty" ? ndlovu
[08:56] <thelsdj> Mantice: GET BACK ON TOPIC! heheh
[08:57] <Mantice> What happend if the bug got me?
[08:57] <hatake_kakashi> Mantice: call the poison's hotline, not here
[08:57] <fojackedddolt> ohkay, sorry. I just installed Ubuntu, and it got my monitor settings wrong... I think I fixed it, under in the xorg.conf but the only problem now is... how to i save?
[08:58] <intelikey> Arafangi1n sure.   e2explorer or something like that
[08:58] <ndlovu> intelikey: I have to admit I'm not too clued up on how the filesytstem works, but basically I'm wanting to search through the data that's on one of my partitions, but not associated with existing files
[08:58] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: Thanks.
[08:58] <ndlovu> intelikey: somebody on google suggested "grep /dev/hda1", but I don't know if there's a better way
[08:58] <Arafangi1n> What is a good partition format to use for a large removable storage device?
[08:59] <Arafangi1n> ext3 is a pain because of permissions and all that, but fat32 has file size issues.
[08:59] <intelikey> ndlovu what are you looking for ?
[08:59] <ndlovu> I deleted a mediawiki db, and I'm looking for the text that was contained in one of the pages
[09:00] <ndlovu> intelikey, I should be able to remember enough to get a grep match
[09:00] <intelikey> then grep and use -B  and -A   for before and after the match lines    man grep for details
[09:01] <ndlovu> thanks intelikey, I'll see how that goes
[09:01] <Mantice> I got the bug
[09:01] <Mantice> dont worry
[09:01] <Mantice> im safe
[09:01] <spikebike> I'd write down the 3 longest words on that page
[09:01] <Mantice> stupid cricket creeping around my computer
[09:01] <spikebike> then grep the partition for them and write down the blocks they are in
[09:02] <intelikey> if you put several linse before and several after  you can pipe to less and viola (assuming there is a match)
[09:03] <yggdrasil> helloguys im trying to figure out how to do something i need to use gcc3.4 and im doing a make menuconfig and im getting a ton of errors
[09:03] <jacquesmerde> why wont synaptic allow me to mark nvidia-settings AND nvidia-glx for installation?
[09:04] <tburman> 'lo
[09:04] <intelikey> !b-e
[09:04] <ubotu> b-e is, like, totally, no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[09:04] <intelikey> yggdrasil ^
[09:04] <ndlovu> spikebike: also not a bad idea (if grep outputs the block number). will try that if the before / after method fails
[09:04] <yggdrasil> ok
[09:04] <yggdrasil> thanks gents
[09:04] <yggdrasil> ill give it a try
[09:05] <yggdrasil> ok thats better but im still getting some errors after a bit
[09:06] <intelikey> !pastebin
[09:06] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[09:06] <intelikey> put your errors there ^
[09:06] <yggdrasil> shoot um
[09:06] <yggdrasil> im using dsl right now and i cant figuree out how to copy pste
[09:06] <yggdrasil> :(
[09:06] <overrider> hello, ubuntu seems not to have the verdana font. any way i can get it and install it? thanks...
[09:06] <yggdrasil> both mouse buttons doesnt work
[09:07] <whatwhat> what ftp clients do you ussually use on linux guys?
[09:07] <intelikey> highlight and where you want to paste  dubble button (middle)  click
[09:07] <yggdrasil> its ok im gonna give it a break for the night
[09:07] <yggdrasil> thanks though guys
[09:08] <intelikey> whatwhat do a apt-cache search ftp       or synaptic   or aptitude
[09:08] <Davey|Laptop> anyone know how well the Apple Mightmouse works on Linux?
[09:09] <intelikey> i like ncftp  myself.
[09:09] <Davey|Laptop> Mighty Mouse
[09:09] <Arafangi1n> Davey|Laptop: Probably the same as any mouse.
[09:10] <whatwhat> intelikey ok i will try it thanks
[09:10] <simpsonianbanana> hi
[09:10] <simpsonianbanana> this might sound pretty stupid, but how do I install a deb file?
[09:10] <Davey|Laptop> Arafangi1n, it has the scroll ball though, I doubht X can handle that :/
[09:10] <intelikey> whatwhat you may be a 'gui' user,  gftp may be more to your liking.
[09:11] <intelikey> simpsonianbanana sudo dpkg -i
[09:11] <simpsonianbanana> thanks
[09:11] <simpsonianbanana> what about a cpkg file?
[09:11] <simpsonianbanana> same do?
[09:12] <Arafangi1n> Davey|Laptop: It can.
[09:12] <Arafangi1n> Davey|Laptop: Oh, did you say *ball*?
[09:12] <intelikey> add the file path and name to that of course....
[09:12] <Davey|Laptop> Arafangi1n, yes
[09:12] <Davey|Laptop> Arafangi1n, it can scroll in any direction
[09:12] <Davey|Laptop> Arafangi1n, its an optical mouse, the scroll wheel, is a ball, so it can scroll in any direction
[09:13] <Arafangi1n> Davey|Laptop: Oh, well, at worst I'd imagine that it'd only be able to work in the up-down direction.
[09:13] <Mordof> im in Dapper Drake, how do i get out of X???
[09:13] <Davey|Laptop> Arafangi1n, which defeats the point of buying a $60 mouse ;)
[09:13] <Arafangi1n> Mordof: Ctrl+Alt+F1 through to F12, F7 is generally what X runs on.
[09:13] <Mordof> ive tried killing gnome-session, tried killing xorg, tried /etc/init.d/gdm stop, nowthin works
[09:13] <Mordof> Arafangi1n: k
[09:13] <Arafangi1n> Davey|Laptop: I like the MS or Logitech mice myself.
[09:14] <Davey|Laptop> Arafangi1n, I did, but I just lost my last set :/
[09:14] <Arafangi1n> Davey|Laptop: I like the irony of the MS Hardware often working better and nicer than their software - and it's a software company ;)
[09:14] <Davey|Laptop> actually, I hate MS mice
[09:14] <Davey|Laptop> they feel flimsy
[09:14] <Davey|Laptop> but I love my Logitechs
[09:14] <httpdss> Mordof: to restart X ..... crtl+alt+bksp
[09:14] <Davey|Laptop> I'm just not willing to pay $130 for a rechargable "desktop" solution
[09:14] <intelikey> Arafangi1n should we start specifying 'left' ctrl alt  on that command ?    cause right alt is for tty 13-24 you know ?
[09:15] <overrider> to get verdana i have to install a package called msttcorefonts , right? can someone please tell me how to do that? via the gui synaptic package manager?
[09:15] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: I've just suddenly realised that I've _never_ used the right alt key!
[09:15] <Mordof> httpdss: doesnt work, brings me back into gnome
[09:15] <Mordof> i want to kill X
[09:15] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: Except for that one time I needed it for qemu...
[09:15] <Mordof> i need to get out of it entirely
[09:15] <intelikey> :)
[09:15] <simpsonianbanana> how do I install a .cpkg?
[09:16] <Arafangi1n> Mordof: Do what I said, then login in the console, then issue gdm stop.
[09:16] <Mordof> Arafangi1n: oh ok
[09:16] <Arafangi1n> Mordof: I don't know what you've been doing, but that _WILL_ stop it.
[09:16] <intelikey> Mordof that will be out of x    right alt + ctrl + f1    puts you in tty1
[09:17] <intelikey> sorry left
[09:17] <intelikey> ha
[09:17] <intelikey> my other right
[09:17] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: Looks like the left and right alts make no difference (here, at least)
[09:17] <intelikey> Arafangi1n go to console and try
[09:17] <jacquesmerde> anyone here succeeded in installing nvidia binary drivers on dapper flight4?
[09:17] <brosioz> why the fonts of all gtk application are more smaller than other in kde ? i've try to set all to 12 but doesn't works
[09:18] <Mordof> Arafangi1n: that doesnt stop it at all
[09:18] <intelikey> right alt + f7   wont take you back to gui
[09:18] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: It ignores the right alt, so presumeably it does work, just that there's no getty
[09:18] <Mordof> Arafangi1n: i need to get out of it
[09:18] <intelikey> no it doesn't Arafangi1n
[09:18] <Mordof> Arafangi1n: i cant even stop it from inside the console while logged in, stopping gdm doesn't work at all for me
[09:18] <p0windah> brosioz: gtk is 96 methinks, kde try to scale to your mon.
[09:18] <Arafangi1n> Mordof: What did you end up when you hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[09:19] <brosioz> p0windah: so what can i do ?
[09:19] <Mordof> Arafangi1n: in cli, but then when i went to f7 again it was still loaded
[09:19] <thelsdj> hrm anyone know how to get inotify permissions on dapper for beagle?
[09:19] <Mordof> Arafangi1n: im trying to load xgl.. and i need all X and gnome to not be running
[09:19] <p0windah> brosioz: send an email to upstream gnome and kde and ask them to both use the same method ?
[09:19] <Arafangi1n> Mordof: Ok, hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace after you do the configuration for xgl
[09:19] <intelikey> Arafangi1n i meant no it doesn't ignore it  ^
[09:20] <Mordof> Arafangi1n: ive got it all ready to go in a script to run, i just cant seem to get rid of X or gnome
[09:20] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: It does ignore it in the sense that _nothing_ happens ;)
[09:20] <Arafangi1n> Mordof: Something is very wierd on yours.
[09:21] <Mordof> Arafangi1n: i know, i need another method to get out of it
[09:21] <jacquesmerde> why is the nvidia-settings package necessary for the nvidia binary driver???
[09:21] <Arafangi1n> Mordof: Well, let's get to basics. Do you even use GDM?
[09:21] <Mordof> Arafangi1n: if dapper uses it by default, then yes
[09:21] <intelikey> Mordof go to a console like you were told,  and do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop "
[09:22] <simpsonianbanana> Hello?  RAGNAROK ONLINE! GUNZ ONLINE! ;D
[09:29] <MAB> I hear you Robin
[09:29] <robinl1> good :p
[09:29] <robinl1> this will be your last warning.
[09:29] <intelikey> Arafangi1n you don't
[09:29] <robinl1> bye :P
[09:29] <Arafangi1n> I do not want permissions on this, it's too much a deal when sharing it between my computers.
[09:29] <MAB> but a computer is not a gaming system
[09:30] <robinl1> yes it is - for most people
[09:30] <robinl1> it rocks for gaming.
[09:30] <MAB> that is what Playstations are for
[09:30] <robinl1> AND computers
[09:30] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: So, how the heck am I meant to share this drive between my computers?
[09:30] <Madpilot> Arafangi1n: fat32?
[09:30] <Arafangi1n> Madpilot: I can't write a file more than 4 GB
[09:30] <robinl1> some really good games have been placed on the computer
[09:30] <MAB> I guess so but extreme games should be left for Xbox and Play Station
[09:30] <robinl1> take gunbound, ragnarok, gunz!
[09:30] <simpsonianbanana> hey again, I have ye olde rage 128, are there any drivers for it? I can't find them on the ATI site..
[09:30] <intelikey> with 10g file  and no perms   not a chance that i know of Arafangi1n
[09:30] <Arafangi1n> robinl1: And nethack :)
[09:31] <robinl1> Arafangi1n: can that be played online? O_O
[09:31] <Arafangi1n> robinl1: Yes, actually
[09:31] <robinl1> Arafangi1n: how?
[09:31] <Arafangi1n> robinl1: 'telnet nethack.alt.org' ;)
[09:31] <robinl1> any graphical clients?
[09:31] <Arafangi1n> robinl1: Yes, but not for that server.
[09:31] <intelikey> hackslab.something used to do that too
[09:31] <robinl1> hmm
[09:32] <Madpilot> Arafangi1n: you've got individual files that're 4Gb+?
[09:32] <Arafangi1n> Madpilot: Yes.
[09:32] <Madpilot> Arafangi1n: DVD rips, or what?
[09:32] <Micksa> anyone want a dapper bug report/
[09:32] <Micksa> ?
[09:32] <Arafangi1n> Madpilot: qemu disk images.
[09:32] <Madpilot> Arafangi1n: wow :P
[09:32] <Arafangi1n> Madpilot: But my .tar backups can easily exceed that anyway.
[09:33] <simpsonianbanana> Hello? anyone know of a rage 128 driver?
[09:33] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: Ok, the alternative is how do I enforce a umask for that particular volume, such that permissions are always 777?
[09:33] <Arafangi1n> simpsonianbanana: rage is ati, isn't it?
[09:33] <simpsonianbanana> yes
[09:33] <Madpilot> simpsonianbanana: not sure there is one, but try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:34] <simpsonianbanana> thx
[09:34] <Arafangi1n> simpsonianbanana: I think that site also mentions various cards, and what to use the opensource driver for, and the commercial drivers for.
[09:34] <intelikey> Arafangi1n could run a cron job to chmod things every hour or something
[09:34] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: Not acceptable.
[09:34] <intelikey> because ?
[09:35] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: There is no way I'm going to have a cronjob run to reset the permissions of 10000 files in the middle of a lecture while I'm on battery power.
[09:36] <intelikey> so this is all on a lappy eeh ?
[09:36] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: It gets shared amongst my computers.
[09:36] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: Which is why I want it to work with gnome-volume-manager by default, because I don't want to spend hours configuring everything.
[09:37] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: But most of the time it stays with my laptop.
[09:39] <intelikey> and it's not acceptable to use dd and break files that are over 4g into sections ?
[09:39] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: I suppose that at a pinch, I could live with just dedicating the removable drive with the laptop, but that's a pain.
[09:39] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: No, because qemu can't read them!
[09:39] <vincenz> Anyone have a solution over amsn, half of my messages don't get through
[09:40] <vincenz> (for msn)
[09:40] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: Though, I wouldn't use dd for that, I'd use "split", but that's a digression ;)
[09:40] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: I use jabber, with an msn transport.
[09:40] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: does it support http_proxy for all protocols?
[09:40] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Yes.
[09:40] <vincenz> .O
[09:40] <vincenz> gaim doesn't for instance
[09:41] <ndlovu> intelikey: I've had some success with grep, output to a text file, which I then open with less; but for some reason the character set gets corrupted, and after a while, all text comes out like this:  . actually my whole terminal session gets corrupted. any idea why?
[09:41] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: psi does, but that's qt
[09:41] <vincenz> psi?
[09:41] <vincenz> jabber?
[09:41] <vincenz> can't find either in synaptic
[09:41] <intelikey> yeah i've got a few.....  lol
[09:42] <intelikey> but i'll keep them to my self
[09:42] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Jabber is a protocol, psi, gaim, gabber, et al are all clients
[09:42] <vincenz> a
[09:42] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: but hmm..I need the msn protocol
[09:42] <odat> anyone know the command to use to see what ip address my router is giving my computer
[09:42] <vincenz> and gaim doesn't do proxying
[09:42] <vincenz> gabber is non existent in synaptic
[09:42] <vincenz> and amsn dropps half my messages
[09:42] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Jabber has a notion of "transports", and the servers themselves do the proxying for you.
[09:42] <vincenz> o.O
[09:42] <thelsdj> ndlovu: if you don't want to look at the binary data just run 'strings' on the file
[09:43] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: no I need http-proxying to get past my firewall
[09:43] <CyPhEr__> hey guys i have a little prob
[09:43] <ndlovu> thelsdj: does that strip the binary data out?
[09:43] <hatake_kakashi> vincenz: then you need http-tunnel
[09:43] <vincenz> hatake_kakashi: yes
[09:43] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Try: sudo apt-get install psi
[09:43] <CyPhEr__> anytome i open something like network settings it looks like its opening and then nothing happens and then it closes
[09:43] <intelikey> ndlovu a grep -ve <put offending char here>  to cut out the code that breaks your termcap maybe ?
[09:43] <CyPhEr__> please help
[09:44] <hatake_kakashi> vincenz: google around, you may find some
[09:44] <vincenz> hatake_kakashi: ...
[09:44] <vincenz> hatake_kakashi: amsn does it, it just drops half my packets
[09:44] <ndlovu> thelsdj, intelikey: strings seems to be doing the trick :). Probably grep > strings > file would work best?
[09:44] <vincenz> half the messages I type I get "there was an error sending the following message:" ...
[09:44] <hatake_kakashi> vincenz: well you can get things like your-freedom or something
[09:45] <CyPhEr__> anyone
[09:45] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: So, does that command work?
[09:45] <thelsdj> ndlovu: you could also do strings|grep > file
[09:45] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: You will need to enable universe.
[09:45] <thelsdj> but ya grep|strings > file will work
[09:45] <intelikey> ndlovu like  grep -ve'' file | grep -ve'' | less       Repete the second grep portion as many times as needed....
[09:45] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: I checked out the package, I'd like to know first if it supports http-proxying
[09:45] <hatake_kakashi> CyPhEr__: run that application in command line, if you can't see any output, set verbose messages on
[09:45] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Heck, it supports http polling.
[09:45] <CyPhEr__> ok first time user
[09:45] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: But I'll have to check up on that again to figure out how to do that.
[09:46] <CyPhEr__> y cant i just click
[09:46] <hatake_kakashi> CyPhEr__: you know how to open Terminal right?
[09:46] <CyPhEr__> yes
[09:46] <hatake_kakashi> CyPhEr__: open that, and type in the command to start that networking..
[09:46] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: so I can contact my regular msn account and talk to other msn peoeople from my friends list with that?
[09:46] <CyPhEr__> i still should be able to click and configure
[09:46] <intelikey> but you are still likely to get garbage. ndlovu    if it were something you could just re down load i'd say why bother with hacking that .....
[09:47] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Actually, now that I think of it, gaim _does_ allow proxies.
[09:47] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: In what sense do you need a proxy?
[09:47] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: all data must go over the proxy
[09:47] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: gaim does support that.
[09:47] <vincenz> that's why I have a perl script for my ssh
[09:47] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: nope
[09:47] <odat> anyone know the command to use to see what ip address my router is giving my computer
[09:47] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Ok, so you're not just talking about a mere squid proxy, right?
[09:47] <ndlovu> intelikey: thanks, but there's one file in particular that I've spent a few hours constructing. it's just text; the rest I can construct again
[09:47] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: squid?
[09:48] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: even my ssh connection must go over this proxy
[09:48] <vincenz> it's not just for outward port 8
[09:48] <vincenz> 80
[09:48] <vincenz> it's for all ports
[09:48] <hatake_kakashi> CyPhEr__: if you are going to be that stubborn, then you won't get much to help you
[09:48] <vincenz> "I connect to the initernet using a proxy server: HTTP (Post Method)" is my option in amsn
[09:48] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: I'm looking at my gaim "Modify Account" window, and I'm reading "Proxy Options"
[09:48] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: it doesn't do it
[09:49] <CyPhEr__> i mean you jsut expect something to work first time i dont want to have to go the the term everytime i wana change something
[09:49] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: It's there.
[09:49] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: it's not sufficient
[09:49] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: username/password isn't enough?
[09:49] <intelikey> odat ifconfig  if no one answered you yet
[09:49] <vincenz> I don't need a login
[09:49] <vincenz> I need the HTTP (Post Method) option and it's not available in gaim
[09:49] <vincenz> trust me, I've tried
[09:49] <vincenz> it doesn't work
[09:50] <intelikey> vincenz using it over tor ?
[09:50] <simpsonianbanana> still found nothing for rage 128's
[09:50] <vincenz> intelikey: no, company proxy
[09:50] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Hmm, well psi definetly supports HTTP "Connect", and HTTP Polling.
[09:50] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: it's http post
[09:50] <vincenz> that's the method I need
[09:50] <vincenz> whatever that means
[09:51] <vincenz> I'm a networking newb, but I know that it doesn't work with gaim
[09:51] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Gaim probably uses "Connect" as well.
[09:51] <vincenz> ...
[09:51] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: I tried, it doesn't work
[09:51] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Give polling a go, with psi.
[09:51] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: I'm just about to check it myself.
[09:51] <vincenz> what is polling?
[09:51] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: afaik, it polls a http file.
[09:51] <vincenz> I don't need to poll anything
[09:52] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Continuously. It's a hack, but it gets past lame firewalls/proxies.
[09:52] <Mantice> You know how to get past our SINA firewall
[09:52] <vincenz> for ssh, for instance, it opens a pipe to the webproxy server and pipes all dat athrough it
[09:54] <hatake_kakashi> CyPhEr__: and I presume you are using dapper aren't you?
[09:54] <agabus> does anyone know if ftp.iinet.net.au is mirroring the dapper drake fight 4 iso's?
[09:54] <CyPhEr__> Dapper= adapter
[09:54] <Mordof> question: i have a script that exits X. how do i make it login with a username and password i want?
[09:54] <CyPhEr__> and yes a cisco
[09:55] <hatake_kakashi> CyPhEr__: which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[09:55] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Well, other than that, I don't know.
[09:55] <CyPhEr__> newest 5.10
[09:55] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: It is an alternative, and it should work.
[09:56] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: for Gaim when I enable proxy it sais "Access denied: proxy server forbids port 1863 tunnelling"
[09:56] <CyPhEr__> i just go to system and then network setup or like time and date and loginscreen i get it start to launch the little spinning logo goes and then the little indicaor goes away and nothing
[09:56] <hatake_kakashi> CyPhEr__: did you download anything from the universe repos?
[09:56] <hatake_kakashi> universe/multiverse
[09:57] <CyPhEr__> i cant get in on the net at all
[09:57] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Yup, it's blocking the port.
[09:57] <hatake_kakashi> CyPhEr__: check your router, firewall
[09:57] <tburman> anyone else have a problem with totem not playing any media at all?
[09:57] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: it works finie with msn
[09:57] <tburman> mp3, video, whatever
[09:57] <Crazyhobbit> moinsen
[09:57] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: don't you get it, Gaim doesn't use the proxy in the correct way
[09:57] <hatake_kakashi> tburman: you need gstreamer + w32plugins
[09:57] <Crazyhobbit> whats wrong here? :)
[09:57] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: I'm saying psi will get past it.
[09:57] <CyPhEr__> did and i stil doesnt explain why i can not open the time and everything
[09:58] <vincenz> I'll look into it
[09:58] <_keroppi_> I'm trying to get the fglrx driver working, but X windows says it can't find the module. I just had this working fine in Debian unstable, now I've installed ubuntu dapper...
[09:58] <hatake_kakashi> _keroppi_: dapper = unstable
[09:58] <_keroppi_> hatake_kakashi: Yeah I know that
[09:58] <_keroppi_> I have this file: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so, and X says it's can't find the fglrx module when it tries to start
[09:59] <hatake_kakashi> _keroppi_: doesn't mean literally that if debian's unstable worked, ubuntu's unstable will work
[09:59] <Mordof> _keroppi_: linux-restricted-modules has flgrx
[09:59] <hatake_kakashi> CyPhEr__: well I don't know, there are no buttons to make it show debug messages without typing a few lines
[09:59] <_keroppi_> Mordof: What is that? A package?
[09:59] <Mordof> _keroppi_: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[10:00] <cyblivious> need your help guys, everytime i mount/access any ntfs partitions, the mouse mouse freezes every few seconds or becomes jerky. What could be the problem?
[10:00] <CyPhEr__> k welll ill be back on im reinstalling
[10:00] <CyPhEr__> wipe and reload
[10:00] <hatake_kakashi> Mordof: why not sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` ?
[10:00] <Mordof> hatake_kakashi: *shrugs*, whats the difference
[10:00] <hatake_kakashi> cyblivious: check dmesg
[10:00] <_keroppi_> Mordof: That just removed some openoffice stuff and kept gcc and g++ back...
[10:01] <cyblivious> dmesg?
[10:01] <Mordof> _keroppi_: :|
[10:01] <Mantice> can I install ubuntu in a usb hard drive?
[10:01] <Mordof> _keroppi_: i dunno then
[10:01] <_keroppi_> Mordof: What was it supposed to do? Same as apt-get -f install?
[10:01] <Mantice> ...Loading?
[10:01] <Boglizk> My splashscreen changed to Edubuntu and the font on the desktop aswell
[10:01] <hatake_kakashi> Mordof: heh afaik for putting `` it quotes bash to open up that other command as well.. such as ls -al /usr/src/`uname -r`
[10:01] <Boglizk> weird
[10:01] <Mordof> hatake_kakashi: ohh
[10:02] <Mantice> No one installed ubuntu on a USB hard drive?
[10:02] <tburman> hatake_kakashi, gstreamer 0.8 as it comes is ok?
[10:02] <hatake_kakashi> _keroppi_: doubt it
[10:02] <hatake_kakashi> tburman: what do you mean its 'ok'?
[10:02] <hatake_kakashi> cyblivious: dmesg = kernel messages
[10:02] <Sputn1k> Hello, i'm playing one windows game with wine, but there is no fonts, how to add them?
[10:03] <leleobhz> i have installed my ubuntu from hoary (5.04)
[10:03] <tburman> hatake_kakashi, well, I read a forum post that suggested 0.8 was outdated
[10:03] <Boglizk> Automatic has the windows fonts
[10:03] <intelikey> cyblivious run top and then do the mouse trick and watch to see if the reason shows itself
[10:03] <Boglizk> *Automatix
[10:03] <leleobhz> (a cd from shipit)
[10:03] <Madpilot> Sputn1k: install the MS core fonts
[10:03] <Madpilot> !automatix
[10:03] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[10:03] <leleobhz> i can make a dist upgrade to Breezy?
[10:03] <hatake_kakashi> tburman: well it works here afaik, and it seems to be available in the repos as well
[10:04] <Sputn1k> Madpilot, i have them, maybie i should connect them with wine, or womething?
[10:04] <Sputn1k> *something
[10:04] <Madpilot> leleobhz: yes, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:04] <hatake_kakashi> !tell Boglizk about automatix
[10:04] <Boglizk> i got it
[10:04] <leleobhz> thanks Madpilot !
[10:04] <Madpilot> Sputn1k: no idea about wine - never had to use it
[10:04] <tburman> hatake_kakashi, ok. will try installing w32plugins. is there a separate repository for them?
[10:04] <Sputn1k> oh... ;-/ thanks.
[10:05] <hatake_kakashi> !tell tburman about !mp3
[10:05] <hatake_kakashi> !tell tburman about mp3
[10:05] <intelikey> Mantice no i haven't installed on a usb drive but i see people in here all the time that have.   it can be done but there are some special considerations,  search the forums  for usb drive  and see if there isn't some help there.
[10:05] <Boglizk> I have some problems, My splashscreen changed to Edubuntu and the font on the desktop changed aswell, i think it was since i updated something with Synaptic
[10:05] <tburman> hatake_kakashi, thanks
[10:05] <hatake_kakashi> tburman: np
[10:07] <leleobhz> Madpilot: have some problem if i have package universe?
[10:07] <davide> hi all
[10:07] <leleobhz> source
[10:07] <chx> if I do a dist-upgrade to Dapper and things do not work out,  can I downgrade?
[10:07] <davide> I have a prob
[10:07] <davide> I cannot hear any CD audio with gnome-cd
[10:07] <davide> but CD drive does work
[10:07] <Boglizk> check the volume?
[10:08] <davide> and I can listen with other progs
[10:08] <davide> Boglizk, volume is ok
[10:08] <hatake_kakashi> chx: no
[10:08] <jetscreamer> backup your system first and kinda
[10:09] <hatake_kakashi> davide: you can hear normal sounds from Gnome but not from cd right? you are missing an audio cable that wires from cdrom to your soundcard
[10:09] <davide> hatake_kakashi, no
[10:09] <davide> I can hear with another prog to listen to CD
[10:09] <davide> [dcd]
[10:09] <hatake_kakashi> hmm
[10:09] <chx> thanks.
[10:09] <davide> hatake_kakashi, I opened my case too and the cable there is
[10:10] <hatake_kakashi> davide: maybe those two use different soundserver I think
[10:10] <davide> the mixer shows me OSS and ALSA
[10:10] <davide> both are non-mute for CD's
[10:10] <Flash> Does anyone know where the "Terminal" is in Ubuntu v5.10?
[10:10] <davide> applications --> accessories
[10:10] <hatake_kakashi> Flash: Applications > System Tools
[10:11] <cyblivious> intelikey: i run top then mounted the ntfs. the gam_server appeared with the most cpu utilization
[10:11] <davide> hatake_kakashi, what can I try?
[10:11] <Flash> Ahh... Accesories!  Thank you davide
[10:12] <leleobhz> last ask
[10:12] <davide> Flash, the termins is in system tools too :)
[10:12] <hatake_kakashi> davide: hmm.. nfi, which program cannot play the music from the cd?
[10:12] <Chameleon> anyone know if wineX is free
[10:12] <leleobhz> i can use debian-marillat on ubuntu?
[10:12] <davide> gnome-cd
[10:12] <hatake_kakashi> Chameleon: check their site
[10:12] <overrider> when i have a .deb file (in my case i got the skype.deb package). what is the command to install it?
[10:12] <Chameleon> ok if i knew ther site i would
[10:12] <davide> overrider, dpkg -i <file>
[10:13] <hatake_kakashi> Chameleon: that's where google is your friend
[10:13] <Chameleon> lol
[10:13] <overrider> davide, thank you
[10:13] <Madpilot> leleobhz: not recommended
[10:13] <davide> overrider, you need sudo if you are not root
[10:14] <davide> overrider, however use the graphical package manager
[10:14] <Chameleon> NO google is my home page
[10:14] <leleobhz> Madpilot: some alternative?
[10:14] <davide> don't download crappy packages god-knows-where
[10:14] <leleobhz> i just want w32codecs and mplayer
[10:14] <Madpilot> !tell leleobhz about w32codecs
[10:14] <hatake_kakashi> mplayer is from multiverse repo
[10:14] <Madpilot> leleobhz: mplayer is in Universe, I think
[10:15] <hatake_kakashi> !tell leleobhz about multiverse
[10:15] <catoblepa> hallo, does anyone know a channel about VPN?
[10:15] <davide> hatake_kakashi, any idea?
[10:15] <leleobhz> hmmm
[10:15] <gary__> Can anyone tell me how to make the cdplayer the default application when i insert an audio cd?
[10:15] <leleobhz> its very good
[10:15] <leleobhz> :]
[10:15] <hatake_kakashi> davide: haven't tried gnome-cd, hang on
[10:16] <leleobhz> thanks guys
[10:16] <Madpilot> leleobhz: thank the bot, it does most of the actual work around here :P
[10:16] <leleobhz> :]
[10:16] <leleobhz> is someone dont operate the bot, it is unuserfull
[10:16] <leleobhz> :]
[10:16] <hatake_kakashi> davide: lol, seems like gnome-cd has got very minimal configurations, hmm not sure.. maybe run the program through terminal and if necessary add verbose output?
[10:18] <turtlesoup> Hi, i just managed to get ubuntu installed on my fujitsu tablet pc. I however have no GUI, what can i do to fix this? I only have CLI
[10:18] <gary__> Can anyone tell me how to make the cdplayer the default application when i insert an audio cd?
[10:18] <leleobhz> Madpilot: i have removed my sources.list
[10:18] <pingy> Hello, all