[12:14] <kharloss> so
[12:14] <kharloss> any ideea ?
[12:15] <Dr_willis> clarify what you have done, and what exactly is going on. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop 'should' install several dozen+ packages and get you a working X system
[12:16] <Minataku> Sup, Dr_willis ? :D
[12:18] <Dr_willis> just got back from the hospital
[12:18] <Dr_willis> wifes all drugged up
[12:18] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Everything okay?
[12:20] <Dr_willis> yea shes just recovering from the drugs.
[12:21] <Dr_willis> so im trying to  compiule some kde themes - while chnging her pukepans :)
[12:21] <Dr_willis> i think she finially went to sleep
[12:21] <Minataku> Heh
[12:21] <Dr_willis> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[12:21] <Dr_willis> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[12:21] <Dr_willis> Dang it - Ive installed every kde dev file i can think of. :)
[12:21] <Dr_willis>  ./configure --prefix=`kde-config --prefix`
[12:22] <Dr_willis> should be the proper ./confgure command also I think
[12:25] <darkrift_> can anyone here point me to a program for linux that will crack an adobe ebooks protections, or a very good OCR program?
[12:27] <fathum> do u know some software for publishing like adobe indesign? ...but no scribus
[12:28] <Admiral_Chicago> darkrift_: Kooka
[12:29] <Dr_willis> !aptfix
[12:29] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:30] <darkrift_> Uptime: 20 hours and 26 minutes
[12:30] <darkrift_> w99t
[12:30] <darkrift_> w00t*
[12:30] <darkrift_> Random Fortune: ...Unix, MS-DOS, and Windows NT (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly). 	-- Matt Welsh
[12:30] <darkrift_> wow
[12:32] <Dr_willis> 18:32:21 up 19:34,  2 users,  load average: 0.11, 0.14, 0.06
[12:32] <Dr_willis> My mythtv box had 4+ weeks of uptime once.
[12:33] <Dr_willis> then the thunderstorms hit. :) power failure
[12:34] <darkrift_> my laptops normally have 3+ months uptime
[12:35] <Dr_willis> gee.. does Hibernated to disk time count? :)
[12:37] <zipper> Hmm.... Can anyone recommend an alternative to Konversation?
[12:37] <zipper> (irc)
[12:37] <antiroach> xchat
[12:37] <zipper> Is that for gnome?
[12:38] <darkrift_> mirc (with crossover officer) lol
[12:38] <tdn> knetworkmanager stopped working. It does no longer show available networks. I need to manually edit /etc/network/interfaces to get on the network. How do I fix this? This is my /etc/network/interfaces: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/P605.html.
[12:38] <zipper> darkrift_: hah, no chance in hell i wanna use mirc
[12:38] <darkrift_> i got tons of scripts ive written for it
[12:38] <darkrift_> so i need those working
[12:38] <Minataku>  18:38:16 up 92 days, 14:04,  5 users,  load average: 0.30, 0.49, 0.35
[12:38] <Minataku> :D
[12:39] <zipper> hmm
[12:39] <zipper> or well
[12:39] <Minataku> zipper: XChat
[12:39] <Minataku> !info xchat
[12:39] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB
[12:40] <intelikey> i seem to have an error    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37360    kde wont start
[12:40] <zipper> Minataku: Hmm... If i can figure out to just have Konversation to sort nicks after status/flags, instead of alphabeticly
[12:41] <zipper> i guess i could give it some more time
[12:41] <zipper> anyone knows?
[12:41] <Minataku> zipper: Why bother with that KDE crap? :P
[12:41] <zipper> i like kde =/
[12:41] <Minataku> Doesn't mean you have to use every single program that starts with a "K"
[12:41] <zipper> like BB more, but i thought i would give kde a testing
[12:41] <zipper> heh
[12:41] <zipper> ofcourse not :S
[12:42] <intelikey> well let rephrase that.   kde is started, but it's in an infinite loop
[12:42] <Minataku> Sorry, just woke up and got annoyed by my dad... as per friggin' usual
[12:42] <darkrift_> zipper:
[12:43] <darkrift_> thats easy
[12:43] <zipper_> ah
[12:43] <zipper_> xchat is pretty nice
[12:43] <darkrift_> in options
[12:43] <darkrift_> look for nickname list
[12:43] <darkrift_> ther eis an option there to sort by status
[12:43] <zipper_> okay, thanks
[12:44] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37360   any way to "unhange" that ?     (actually "deloop" maybe)
[12:44] <zipper_> in xchat, how do i get a tab with all the people in the channel?
[12:44] <Dr_willis> check the settings/menus
[12:45] <GrueTamer> zipper_: you should have to expand it, it starts out really thin
[12:45] <Dr_willis> view->layout->
[12:45] <zipper_> ah
[12:45] <zipper_> lol
[12:45] <Dr_willis> Oh yea - i recall that the first timeya start xchat. :)
[12:45] <ubuntuNoobus> i have a machine running an xp kubuntu dual boot  and using ntfs-config can view the windows part in linux but i also have to other drives that i cannot see? any ideas
[12:46] <ubuntuNoobus> i'm using a dfi lanpoarty nf590 and all 3 drives are sata
[12:47] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  what other drives>? ntfs parttitions?
[12:48] <ubuntuNoobus> i've got the main drive partition into 3 the 1st being a 150gb ntfs part the secong ext3 linux 144gb and the 3rd a 6gb swap part
[12:48] <ubuntuNoobus> the other 2 drives are ntfs 1 at 250gb and the other at 160gb
[12:49] <intelikey> cat /proc/partitions       and pastebin the output
[12:49] <Dr_willis> 6gb swap- egads.
[12:49] <intelikey> yeah
[12:49] <Dr_willis> you could always edit the fstab file manually and make them mount where ya want
[12:50] <ubuntuNoobus> my machine is running 3gb of ram
[12:50] <Dr_willis> thers also some kde tool for that. but i never use it.
[12:50] <Dr_willis> so ya rarely if ever NEED swap.. so ya add a lot of it. :)
[12:50] <intelikey> then why in the universe do you even have swap ?
[12:50] <ubuntuNoobus> so i thought the rule was twice for the swap
[12:50] <tdn> knetworkmanager stopped working. It does no longer show available networks. I need to manually edit /etc/network/interfaces to get on the network. How do I fix this? This is my /etc/network/interfaces: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/P605.html.
[12:50] <ubuntuNoobus> i really am a noob
[12:50] <antiroach> you dont need 6 gig swap
[12:51] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis: i hesitate to recommend kde's disk and filesystems applet to anyone
[12:51] <antiroach> you can always add temporary swap manually
[12:51] <Dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  i can never rember where its at.
[12:51] <ubuntuNoobus> ok i'kll remember that
[12:51] <intelikey> you don't "need" any swap.
[12:51] <Daisuke_Ido> caused me no end of headaches.  i eventually said f it and edited the fstab by hand
[12:51] <fathum> do u know some irc canal about computer graphic?
[12:52] <genii> !info atftp dapper
[12:52] <ubotu> atftp: advanced TFTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7-11 (dapper), package size 26 kB, installed size 112 kB
[12:53] <BluesKaj> fathum, which graphics card ?
[12:53] <neptunepink> Eureka!
[12:53] <Keldon85> hi; I am having serious troubles with my monitor in Kubuntu
[12:54] <intelikey> so no sujestions on breaking out of the loop http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37360 ?    no cute little xsetx blah   or nofin ?
[12:54] <neptunepink> intelikey: ^C.
[12:55] <Daisuke_Ido> Keldon85: lemme guess, you can't get resolution above 1024x768?
[12:55] <intelikey> that doesn't help neptunepink,  i want kde to run.  not just kill it.
[12:55] <Keldon85> the monitor can work at 1280x1024, 1024x768 and so on; but when I try 1024x768 on kubuntu it does not work
[12:55] <Keldon85> well I can't even get 12
[12:55] <Keldon85> *1024x768
[12:55] <neptunepink> display is set? right user? That's all I can think of.
[12:55] <Daisuke_Ido> so 800x600 and below.
[12:55] <Keldon85> yes
[12:55] <Daisuke_Ido> right video drivers?  xorg configured properly?
[12:56] <Daisuke_Ido> what video card
[12:56] <fathum> to blueskaj: i think canal about computer graphic artists
[12:56] <intelikey> well never mind.  i'll go rewrite /usr/bin/startkde
[12:56] <Keldon85> well; I'm on an ATI X550 and it recognizes what it is; as for xorg configured properly, that's where I get stuck because it asks for things I just can't ever know about
[12:57] <Daisuke_Ido> !resolution
[12:57] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:57] <Daisuke_Ido> that will probably help :)
[12:57] <Keldon85> another problem is that since x is not starting I cannot get onto IRC as I did not install the text IRC client
[12:57] <marcus_> Hi. How do I make my home folder visible on the desktop?
[12:59] <Daisuke_Ido> Keldon85: you can install irssi from a VT (ctrl-alt-1 through 6) by typing 'sudo apt-get install irssi'
[12:59] <Keldon85> well what I want to know is what it is about Kubuntu that makes it have troubles that Mandrake does not with my monitor; in the last two versions of Kubuntu the live CD would only display at 640x480 unless I use safe mode
[12:59] <Keldon85> ahh that's the one; irssi!
[01:00] <intelikey> well that did it.     added line to the beginning of the script /usr/bin/startkde   and re ran it.    all working now.           line = "[ -z "$DISPLAY" ]  && export DISPLAY=':0' "
[01:00] <neptunepink> intelikey: but only for that one display :b
[01:01] <intelikey> neptunepink if it's ran on another display then "DISPLAY" should already be set    no?
[01:01] <Keldon85> #ntfs
[01:01] <Keldon85> !ntfs
[01:01] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:02] <eagles0513875> !fuse
[01:02] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:02] <Keldon85> thanks by the way
[01:02] <eagles0513875> anyone know about jack and how to set up a server
[01:03] <damianos_> wengophone !
[01:04] <damianos_> what do you think about wengophone ?
[01:04] <avalon> Is there a way I can set my kubuntu wallpaper to be a terminal?
[01:05] <tomek_> jest tu kto?
[01:05] <intelikey> sure takes kpersonalizer a long time to finish
[01:05] <neptunepink> !pl
[01:05] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[01:06] <tomek_> thx
[01:06] <damianos_> czesc
[01:06] <damianos_> uzywacie moze wengophone
[01:06] <damianos_> dzisiaj odkrylem
[01:07] <damianos_> skype pod linuksem pozostaje daaaleko w tyle jezeli chodzi o wengophone
[01:07] <eagles0513875> anyone have experience with jack
[01:07] <avalon> Is there a way I can set my kubuntu wallpaper to be a konsole window?
[01:09] <jarn> Where is the volume control?
[01:10] <intelikey> hmmmm it doesn't work to    ln -s /dev/null ~/.kde      meeh  just thought i'd try....   trying to create local folder /usr/src/kernel/.kde/share: Not a directory
[01:10] <intelikey> Error: Can't open display:
[01:10] <intelikey> .: 81: Can't open /usr/src/kernel/.kde/share/config/startupconfig
[01:10] <damianos_> is there anybody with webcam i need some help
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> no we will not put on a show for you to fulfill your sick little fantasies...
[01:13] <J-_> What's a good OSX themed icon set?
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> dunno, i don't use OS X
[01:14] <J-_> for  KDE
[01:14] <J-_> "OSX themed"
[01:15] <kubu> hola
[01:15] <kubu> como va todo?
[01:16] <kubu> alguno usa activamnete kubuntu??
[01:16] <kubu> o hace tiempo que lo usa mejor dicho??
[01:16] <J-_> !english
[01:16] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:16] <kubu> ah ok!
[01:16] <kubu> somebody, can help me!
[01:16] <kubu> about kubuntu 7.04
[01:17] <SlimeyPete> what is the problem, kubu?
[01:17] <BluesKaj> kubu, just ask your question
[01:17] <kubu> i have a problem wiht my cdrom device...
[01:17] <kubu> kubuntu not detect this...
[01:18] <kubu> sorry for my english, im argentine
[01:19] <BluesKaj> !es | kubu
[01:19] <ubotu> kubu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:20] <kubu> ok how change my channel to kubuntu-es?
[01:20] <J-_>  /join #kubuntu-es
[01:21] <kubu> #kubuntu-es
[01:21] <kubu> ok
[01:21] <ailen> Hola
[01:22] <kubu> alien deberas cambiarte al cnal ubuntu-es
[01:22] <kubu> aqui es solo ingles!
[01:23] <kubu> thanks koin
[01:26] <kubu> nobody respond my aswers in the channel in espaol
[01:27] <kubu> hehe
[01:27] <kubu> maybe here somebody can help me
[01:27] <kubu> !!!
[01:28] <kubu> with my bad english, maybe i can explain my problem with a device...
[01:28] <zipper> !remove
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remove - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <zipper> oh
[01:28] <zipper> sorry
[01:29] <kubu> my problem is about a problem with a lector/cd rom
[01:30] <kubu> i cant mount a cdrom, please help!
[01:47] <rodrigo> hey
[01:48] <DrDank> jo
[01:48] <DrDank> hi
[01:48] <rodrigo> any one using ktranslator?
[01:48] <rodrigo> mmm
[01:48] <DrDank> sorry bud.
[01:49] <DrDank> I guess Im going to go get dinner and watch the naked mile.
[01:49] <DrDank> later.
[01:58] <J-_> where does kubuntu store themes, .themes? All I see is Gnome themes there.
[01:58] <J-_> !themes
[01:58] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:59] <rodrigo> hello?
[02:02] <cotyrothery> Admiral_Chicago: Does deskreech ever come on anymore
[02:03] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: he was on last night
[02:03] <cotyrothery> ah ok well do you remember me
[02:03] <cotyrothery> i have not been on in like a month because my computer broke
[02:04] <cotyrothery> i was the one who had trouble getting kubuntu to install
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> no i don't remember
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> bbiab
[02:06] <strabes> how do you enter passwords for rar files with ark?
[02:06] <strabes> when you're extracting them
[02:13] <jriachi> hello
[02:21] <Dhraakellian> well, I got glx stuff working again
[02:21] <Dhraakellian> ...slowly
[02:24] <shiers69> "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" <--I get this message when only my blank scsi drive is installed and i'm trying to boot from the livecd (7.04) anyone got any ideas?
[02:24] <shiers69> havn't been able to find a solution online yet
[02:26] <shiers69> hello?
[02:26] <shiers69> anyone home?
[02:27] <shiers69> "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" <--I get this message when only my blank scsi drive is installed and i'm trying to boot from the livecd (7.04) anyone got any ideas?
[02:42] <shiers69> "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" <--I get this message when only my blank scsi drive is installed and i'm trying to boot from the livecd (7.04) anyone got any ideas?
[02:43] <Dhraakellian> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia seems to be focused on gnome as far as GUI instructions go, and the kubuntu wiki page simply redirects me there
[02:44] <jriachi> Dhraakellian: it is at kernel/Xorg level, it will work for ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu...
[02:44] <Dhraakellian> "System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager"
[02:44] <gon> !mpg
[02:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:45] <shiers69> When i try to install from a live cd (kubuntu 7.04) while only having my blank scsi disk installed i receive the "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" error, is there a fix for this yet?
[02:45] <Dhraakellian> !nvidia
[02:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:46] <linux_> Hi there.
[02:46] <shiers69> hi
[02:46] <linux_> Im having troubele getting 3d support
[02:46] <linux_> :(
[02:46] <Dhraakellian> okay, so apt-get install nvidia-legacy-glx (for a geforce2) and then switching to the nvidia driver instead of nv should do the trick, right?
[02:46] <linux_> anyone know how i can get it
[02:46] <jriachi> Dhraakellian:  right
[02:46] <linux_> its a ATI laptop card
[02:46] <Dhraakellian> glx stuff wasn't working for me the last time I tried it
[02:47] <linux_> i installed the ati driver thing
[02:47] <shiers69> linux_: consider yourself lucky, i can't even get kubuntu to install
[02:47] <linux_> then some 3d games say i havent got opengl :S
[02:47] <linux_> shiers69: why????
[02:47] <shiers69> When i try to install from a live cd (kubuntu 7.04) while only having my blank scsi disk installed i receive the "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" error, is there a fix for this yet?
[02:47] <Dhraakellian> I just uninstalled nvidia-legacy-glx, and glxgears, bzflag, et al. actually load for me
[02:47] <linux_> sorry for so many ?'s
[02:47] <Dhraakellian> they run slowly, but they load
[02:49] <jriachi> i just installed nvidia-glx, for my nv6800-go
[02:50] <Dhraakellian> GeForce2 MX/MX 400
[02:50] <giovani2> I just upgraded hald and the kernel to the newest version, upon restart, kdm will not launch kde after entering a password, it simply restarts itself
[02:51] <giovani2> I've looked in the Xorg and KDM logs ... nothing seems to stand out -- any recommendations?
[02:51] <giovani2> this is feisty
[02:52] <jriachi> giovani2: and in the ~/.xsession-errors?
[02:52] <giovani2> let me check, hold on
[02:53] <Dhraakellian> okay, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, right?
[02:53] <giovani2> jriachi: that file is empty
[02:54] <jriachi> Dhraakellian: right
[02:54] <Dhraakellian> okay, now glxgears was able to run before this
[02:54] <Dhraakellian> now, let's see if it works afterwards
[02:56] <shiers69> anyone home?
[02:57] <jriachi> i am at home :)
[02:57] <shiers69> do you know how to fix the error i'm having?
[02:57] <giovani2> jriachi: any other ideas?
[02:57] <jriachi> nop
[02:57] <shiers69> it's amazing that there are so many people in here yet no one is here
[02:57] <gon> !mp3
[02:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:58] <hikaricore> we like to idle
[02:58] <jriachi> (so    cat /home/*/.xsession-errors    returns no answer, giovani2? )
[02:58] <shiers69> how bout you hikaricore... know how to solve my problem?
[02:59] <shiers69> can't find any solutions online anywhere
[02:59] <giovani2> jriachi: correct
[02:59] <jriachi> giovani2: then i have no idea
[02:59] <hikaricore> sadly no i had that problem in alpha feisty, but never figured out what caused it
[03:00] <jriachi> try starting /usr/sbin/kdm  as root in a virtual console
[03:00] <shiers69> i sure am glad my pc w/ vista works fine ;-)
[03:00] <jriachi> to check the output, giovani2
[03:00] <hikaricore> eww
[03:00] <giovani2> jriachi: should I kill the already running kdm first?
[03:00] <jriachi> giovani2: yes
[03:00] <hikaricore> thou shalt not mention satans name in #kubuntu
[03:00] <hikaricore> ^_^
[03:00] <shiers69> heh
[03:01] <Frederick> folks why kpalmdoc is not on repos?
[03:01] <jriachi> hikaricore: for kubuntu users,  to use Vista is not a sin
[03:01] <jriachi> it is a penitence
[03:01] <sebastianhooker> no, vista is a sin
[03:01] <sebastianhooker> and i will not go any other way
[03:01] <giovani2> jriachi: kdm is located in /usr/bin, and it detaches from the console after starting
[03:01] <sebastianhooker> lol
[03:01] <giovani2> and brings it back to a prompt
[03:01] <hikaricore> vista is worse than killing babies
[03:01] <hikaricore> i'm done with that comment
[03:02] <jriachi> sebastianhooker: then i have no idea about how to help you (i guess i am still too much used to the debian way...)
[03:03] <jriachi> sorry
[03:05] <Dhraakellian> that... didn't work
[03:06] <Dhraakellian> I ran "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[03:06] <Dhraakellian> then logged out and did /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[03:06] <Dhraakellian> black screen with the Kubuntu logo graphic and an empty progress bar
[03:07] <Dhraakellian> then, after a while, just a single blinking text cursor up in the corner
[03:08] <jriachi> Dhraakellian: sorry to hear that
[03:10] <jriachi> they say that intel is the best for 3d on linux, since there are opensource drivers, and such... i have no idea, tho
[03:12] <Dhraakellian> jriachi: yeah, but getting hardware acceleration with the onboard intel stuff was a nightmare the last time I tried
[03:12] <jriachi> no idea, i have only this nvidia laptop, my last intel was a i740 :)
[03:13] <Dhraakellian> then I plugged in the nvidia card, installed the drivers, (and perhaps followed a few instructions on the gentoo docs... I don't remember), and it mostly just worked
[03:14] <jriachi> Dhraakellian: you may want to try with the .run from nvidia.com  (it gave me problems, like dissapearing virtual consoles at control-alt-F1)
[03:14] <Dhraakellian> ?
[03:14] <giovani2> hmm, this kdm problem is very frustrating
[03:15] <jriachi> giovani2: so... no log?
[03:15] <giovani2> which log are you referrnig to?
[03:16] <giovani2> there was no .xsession-errors file
[03:16] <giovani2> there are logs for kdm and x, but I don't see any fatal errors or anything
[03:17] <jriachi> mine contains...
[03:17] <giovani2> I'm not sure if this is kernel related, or hald related -- I upgraded both at the same time, but neither of the kernels (that includes the -15 one I had, and was working fine from install months ago) are working -- both give this error, even in "recovery mode"
0: warning: Unknown encoding: es_ES.UTF-8@euro
[03:17] <jriachi>     startkde: Starting up...
[03:17] <jriachi> startkde: kpersonalizer not found! Please install to properly configure your user.
[03:17] <giovani2> well, it would appear that that's written when kde starts
[03:18] <jriachi> to it is strange, you dont get any line :S
[03:18] <giovani2> kde is not starting ..
[03:18] <giovani2> or not staying open, at least
[03:18] <giovani2> are there any kde logs?
[03:18] <jriachi> i have no idea
[03:19] <giovani2> well it's paralyzed my computer -- bad position to be in
[03:20] <mallen> hello all
[03:20] <soulrider_> jriachi: Dhraakellian if you have an nvidia card its better to use the drivers from the repos and not install the ones from nvidia.com
[03:20] <soulrider_> hi Kazzline
[03:20] <Dhraakellian> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia <--the 7.04 section there is fairly usless if you don't have Gnome
[03:21] <Kazzline> how goes it
[03:21] <pakotm> hola
[03:21] <soulrider> hola pakotm
[03:21] <soulrider> !es | pakotm
[03:21] <ubotu> pakotm: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:21] <pakotm> axias
[03:21] <pakotm> bye
[03:21] <pakotm> hi
[03:21] <Kazzline> anyone else have ubuntu installed on a ibm lappy?
[03:22] <Kazzline> i'm having a hell of a time getting the wifi working right
[03:24] <Dhraakellian> http://http.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-a.html <-- Huh... is that page up to date?
[03:25] <Dhraakellian> it doesn't show the GeForce2 MX/MX 400 in the legacy section
[03:25] <Dhraakellian> but I'm sure I was using the legacy package on Gentoo
[03:26] <brian__> ive installed the nvidia glx driver/enabled it but a restart only shows a blinking cursor..any ideas
[03:26] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: um... the up to date list would be in the latest driver page
[03:27] <Dhraakellian> okay
[03:27] <Dhraakellian> then which page had that link that I followed
[03:27] <Dhraakellian> hmm
[03:27] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: that's the 8762 driver
[03:27] <Dhraakellian> well, nevermind then
[03:29] <louis_> hey guys
[03:29] <louis_> if i accidentally close a terminal window during apt-get install, how can i bring it back up to see the progress?
[03:30] <moshe> hi, have problem with built-in bluetooth on thinkpad x40, hciconfig -a shows empty, while dmesg shows that bluetooth was loaded and bluetooth service is running. also, no hciX devices
[03:31] <Dhraakellian> The 1.0-96xx driver supports the following set of GPUs:
[03:31] <Dhraakellian> GeForce2 MX/MX 400  0x0110
[03:32] <Dhraakellian> which, according to version numbers in synaptic, means that I should still be using nvidia-glx instead of nvidia-glx-legacy
[03:33] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: check under which section that video card is listed? there are 3 sections corresponding to nvidia-glx-new, nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-legacy
[03:34] <Dhraakellian> Jucato: it's right at the top of the list for the 1.0-96xx section
[03:34] <Jucato> can you throw me a link? :)
[03:34] <Dhraakellian> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[03:34] <Dhraakellian> I guess I had just assumed that I'd be using nvidia-glx-legacy since I was using the legacy package on Gentoo
[03:35] <Jucato> yep. should be nvidia-glx, not -legacy, not -new
[03:35] <lunar-raven> !azureus
[03:35] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[03:36] <gon> !mpg
[03:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:37] <brian__> ne ideas?
[03:37] <sebastianhooker> domo arogoto find your inner ubotu :D
[03:37] <sebastianhooker> brian__: look up
[03:37] <Dhraakellian> Ni!
[03:37] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: because Kubuntu is not Gentoo, and vice versa. they have different package naming conventions
[03:37] <brian__> sry left for a fw min
[03:38] <sebastianhooker> jucato: *throws URL at his head*
[03:38] <Dhraakellian> Jucato: so the split between regular and -legacy is distro-side rather than upstream?
[03:39] <sebastianhooker> jucato: catches it and eats it, then shoots a gun at jucato
[03:39] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: hm.. btw, who told you in Gentoo that you should use nvidia-legacy-drivers?
[03:40] <Dhraakellian> Jucato: it's been long enough now that I don't remember
[03:40] <Dhraakellian> who knows?  maybe I just misread a doc
[03:40] <hikaricore> only the shadow knows..
[03:40] <hikaricore> heh
[03:40] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: because I'm looking at it right now, and the driver number itself tells me that you shouldn't have used the legacy ones (7184)
[03:40] <sebastianhooker> well, kubuntu linux uses binary, like any operating system, there are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary, and those who do not.
[03:41] <Jucato> anyway, Gentoo has only 2 drivers for nvidia, legacy and the normal one. while Kubuntu has 3
[03:41] <n8k99> sebastianhooker: heheh
[03:41] <sebastianhooker> n8k99 understands binary
[03:41] <sebastianhooker> :D
[03:41] <Jucato> sebastianhooker: that is absolutely 1
[03:41] <sebastianhooker> haha
[03:41] <unnamed> unly in the last release of repository
[03:41] <Dhraakellian> Jucato: oh... here's a possibility... I might have had a 71xx driver installed due to that being a known working one way back when my dad had this card in his mandriva box
[03:41] <sebastianhooker> well, shit.
[03:41] <sebastianhooker> i need a search engine for real life
[03:42] <sebastianhooker> where are my socks?
[03:42] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: probably because it was the latest driver back then :P
[03:42] <Dhraakellian> this was before gentoo got the split packages for nvidia drivers
[03:42] <unnamed> feisty
[03:42] <sebastianhooker> doesn't kubuntu use java?
[03:42] <sebastianhooker> cause java works on all OSs?
[03:42] <sebastianhooker> cause saying that java is great because it works on all OSs is saying like anal sex is great because it works on all genders
[03:43] <Jucato> sebastianhooker: use java in what way? an OS just doesn't "use" java
[03:43] <Jucato> er...
[03:43] <hikaricore> java works equally as well in all OSes
[03:43] <Jucato> !language | sebastianhooker
[03:43] <ubotu> sebastianhooker: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:43] <hikaricore> slowly..
[03:43] <Dhraakellian> sebastianhooker: you know, I *really* didn't need that imagery
[03:43] <sebastianhooker> !language | Jucato
[03:43] <ubotu> Jucato: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:43] <Daisuke_Ido> bash stealer!
[03:45] <unnamed> squarepants!
[03:46] <Dhraakellian> oy...
[03:46] <IAmWill> !nvidia
[03:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:47] <Dhraakellian> IAmWill: heh... as far as GUI instructions go, the 7.04 section of that (well, the nvidia subpage to which it links) is fairly useless without Gnome
[03:47] <Dhraakellian> which means that you need to check the list yourself
[03:48] <Dhraakellian> and my fingers still think that the command for installing packages is "emerge"
[03:48] <soulrider> sebastianhooker: some people hate java. i dont know why. I personally like it a lot
[03:48] <IAmWill> Dhraakellian, i just noticed
[03:48] <soulrider> lol
[03:48] <soulrider> gentoo was way too complicated for me
[03:48] <soulrider> i just dont ahve the time to read all the docs
[03:48] <soulrider> and compile stuff 100 times
[03:48] <Dhraakellian> soulrider: it's not *too* bad
[03:48] <IAmWill> Dhraakellian, once again.. i suffer from the gentoo syndrome  =)
[03:49] <Dhraakellian> but, yeah, I decided to give kubuntu a try to see if it actually was easier and less bother
[03:49] <IAmWill> Dhraakellian, it is as if, gentoo was easier to get video working....
[03:49] <Dhraakellian> my decision so far: a little yes, a little no
[03:49] <IAmWill> samehere
[03:49] <soulrider> Dhraakellian: i use arch at the moment, but the ubuntu community is the best
[03:49] <Jucato> *cough* offtopic *cough*
[03:49] <Dhraakellian> I might try vanilla Debian sometime
[03:49] <IAmWill> what holds me to kubuntu is the dreadful reinstall of gentoo
[03:49] <soulrider> and kubuntu is great for all those new to linux
[03:50] <soulrider> Jucato: you still having issues with recursion? i could help you out a bit
[03:50] <IAmWill> okay, so.. how the hell do i get my drivers working in here?
[03:50] <soulrider> IAmWill: nvidia drivers ?
[03:50] <IAmWill> soulrider, yeah
[03:50] <Jucato> soulrider: I put it on the shelf a bit. focusing on more important stuff :)
[03:50] <soulrider> i think you need to install nvidia-glx
[03:51] <soulrider> and thern edit xorg to use the nvidia driver
[03:51] <Dhraakellian> IAmWill: well, if it's a GeForce2 MX/MX 400, don't go with the legacy drivers
[03:51] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-generic
[03:51] <Dhraakellian> !;)
[03:51] <IAmWill> not legacy
[03:51] <Jucato> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:51] <Jucato> then restart X
[03:51] <Jucato> done
[03:51] <IAmWill> soulrider, i have that one installed, but it doesnt like me
[03:51] <soulrider> Jucato: thats easier since i had to last do it
[03:51] <IAmWill> ohh.. I was running Xorg -configutre
[03:51] <soulrider> what do you mean?
[03:51] <Dhraakellian> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:51] <Dhraakellian> ?
[03:52] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: that doesn't really work for the newer drivers. sudo nvidia-xconfig is more reliable from what I've seen so far
[03:52] <Jucato> and by newer, I mean no -legacy
[03:52] <Jucato> not*
[03:52] <Dhraakellian> Jucato: ah, okay
[03:53] <Dhraakellian> Jucato: and how about just going into the kcontrol module and choosing (*) Proprietary instead of ( ) Standard?
[03:53] <Jucato> dunno. never trusted displayconfig since day 1 :)
[03:53] <Jucato> displayconfig = Kubuntu-only system settings/kcontrol module for Monitor & Display
[03:54] <Dhraakellian> Jucato: yeah, I suspected the kubuntu-only part
[03:54] <Dhraakellian> Jucato: how is it so bad and/or untrustworthy?
[03:55] <Jucato> it never worked for me. that's the only reason :)
[03:55] <Jucato> go ahead and use it if it works for you :)
[03:55] <Dhraakellian> heh
[03:55] <Dhraakellian> still backing up my xorg.conf first
[03:56] <Dhraakellian> if this works, however, I might have to go in and clear out a ton of backups
[03:56] <Jucato> would be nice if it did that automatically too :)
[03:56] <Dhraakellian> it does back up the xorg.conf, but if I do it myself, I know exactly which backup it is that I want
[03:57] <Dhraakellian> okay, changed
[03:57] <ubuntu> Jucato gone?
[03:57] <Dhraakellian> Here goes nothing!
[04:00] <Dhraakellian> W00WH0M!
[04:01] <Dhraakellian> framerate in glxgears has just about tripled
[04:01] <Dhraakellian> actually... more than tripled
[04:04] <bonbonthejon> how do you show the frame rate for glxgears
[04:07] <DaSkreech> glxgears -iacknowledgethatthisisnotabenchmark
[04:07] <cWolfe> i really hate that the devs did that
[04:07] <ardchoille> glxgears is not a benchmark. You can use it to show that DRI works, but it does not even test that well. There's glxinfo or your Xorg.0.log to tell you if DRI was enabled as well. And for the people who're wondering why CPU usage is 100%, while glxgears seems to be giving quite a lot of fps: yes, this is normal, because it tries to get the max number of frames per second. Checking CPU usage for glxgears is not a way to see if direct rendering w
[04:08] <ardchoille> crdlb: same
[04:11] <IAmWill> wow, i think i just had the deciding factor for kubuntu vs gentoo
[04:12] <ardchoille> btw, glxgears should print fps bydefault in Feisty.
[04:12] <DaSkreech> IAmWill: time to install KDE?
[04:12] <IAmWill> i rebooted to fix my video card, and upon reboot, I went to the grub menu and did the recovery, and it booted me into root with no password
[04:13] <Jucato> and?
[04:13] <ardchoille> That's recovery mode, that's the way it works
[04:13] <IAmWill> strait to root, in which i vi'ed my xorg.conf, and then rebooted.. not once did kubuntu ask for a root password... just gave me root priviligies
[04:13] <DaSkreech> Jucato: dood!
[04:13] <Jucato> er.. that's how it's supposed to work!!
[04:14] <IAmWill> i thought that linux was suppose to be secure.... .....
[04:14] <Daisuke_Ido> it's RECOVERY
[04:14] <DaSkreech> IAmWill: You can turn that off if you like
[04:14] <Daisuke_Ido> there is no root password by default, so it can't exactly ask for one
[04:14] <IAmWill> DaSkreech, i like to hear that
[04:14] <ardchoille> IAmWill: If you want more security, you can remove the "recovery" options from the menu.lst file
[04:14] <DaSkreech> IAmWill: plus if someone is close enough to reboot your machine and select a kernel you are already screwed
[04:14] <IAmWill> i know that.... its just... weird
[04:14] <IAmWill> i am not used to that
[04:15] <Daisuke_Ido> you ever use windows?
[04:15] <IAmWill> DaSkreech, this is true
[04:15] <ardchoille> lol
[04:15] <Jucato> it's not weird. you just don't know how it's supposed to work
[04:15] <IAmWill> Jucato, not kubuntu
[04:15] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I think he knows how it's supposed to work he just likes false security "-)
[04:15] <IAmWill> cute  =)
[04:16] <IAmWill> ohh yeah, and nvidia still isnt working
[04:16] <ardchoille> Could it be that gentoo doesn't use the sudo model and therefore asks for a password for recovery mode?
[04:16] <n8k99> it's not security is not boolean
[04:16] <IAmWill> i switched the driver to nvidia, and it freezes my system... it only works under nv  =(
[04:16] <Daisuke_Ido> n8k99: i'm going to pretend that sentence made sense.
[04:16] <ardchoille> lol
[04:16] <n8k99> Daisuke_Ido: good thing!
[04:17] <IAmWill> ardchoille, thats probably it... this is the first time i have used sudo... in kubuntu
[04:17] <ardchoille> IAmWill: Ah, ok
[04:17] <IAmWill> ardchoille, i am not a fan of sudo.. although i can see its benefits
[04:18] <ardchoille> IAmWill: Can't brute force a root account when it's disabled ;)
[04:18] <IAmWill> i catch myself using sudo su more... its just easier to be root (imo)
[04:18] <Jucato> O.o
[04:19] <Jucato> sudo -i
[04:19] <Daisuke_Ido> and less secure!  for someone concerned with security that sounds retardedly insecure :D
[04:19] <draik> Is it possible for me to have GNOME and KDE installed on Kubuntu? I want to have the option when I login
[04:19] <ardchoille> draik: Yes, and you can run gnome apps in kde and vice versa
[04:19] <ender_> yes...just "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[04:19] <antiroach> draik yes
[04:19] <draik> Ok
[04:19] <Daisuke_Ido> draik: ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop
[04:20] <ender_> errr... use aptitude... that would be better I think
[04:20] <Daisuke_Ido> and xubuntu-desktop if you're feeling frisky
[04:20] <IAmWill> uhh.... dont you get dependency issues if you install both kde and gnome?
[04:20] <Daisuke_Ido> aptitude is a better idea.
[04:20] <Daisuke_Ido> IAmWill: why would you?
[04:20] <Jucato> IAmWill: no
[04:20] <IAmWill> conflicting packages
[04:20] <ardchoille> IAmWill: No, that's why you have a package manager, to resolve deps.
[04:20] <ender_> I am running kubuntu and mint linux with no issues
[04:20] <Jucato> IAmWill: why would there be conflicting packages?
[04:20] <n8k99> draik you may want to install a script from kde-apps.org that cleans up your kmenu automatically if you do all that installing
[04:20] <Daisuke_Ido> gtk conflicts with qt how?
[04:20] <draik> n8k99: NOW you tell me
[04:20] <Daisuke_Ido> how could anything possibly conflict :D
[04:21] <DaSkreech> IAmWill: what would conflict?
[04:21] <IAmWill> ehh.... i dont knoe
[04:21] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: I suppose when you compile and install manually, there can be conflicts.
[04:21] <IAmWill> i was always under the impression that they conflicted
[04:21] <n8k99> draik: seemed like a good time
[04:21] <DaSkreech> IAmWill: Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaw
[04:21] <IAmWill> gentoo'ers hate that crap
[04:22] <DaSkreech> that was Gnome pushing freedesktop standards and clouding the water
[04:22] <Daisuke_Ido> kubuntu != gentoo
[04:22] <IAmWill> plus.... i have had the great cirle of dep's problems in gentoo with that crap
[04:22] <Daisuke_Ido> we LOVE it :)
[04:22] <draik> Will I get any issues from what I have that seems to be "kubuntu only?
[04:22] <n8k99> IAmWill: only the people conflict
[04:22] <ender_> so what is xfce like compared to kde?  cleaner...less flashy, more?
[04:22] <IAmWill> nice
[04:22] <Daisuke_Ido> minimalist, but functional
[04:23] <GrueTamer> xfce is less flashy than kde, takes up less resources, and the interface is a bit different
[04:23] <DaSkreech> ender_: minimalist
[04:23] <ardchoille> draik: I doubt it. I was running gnome with kicker and windowmaker as my window manager.. until I wised up and switched to kubuntu
[04:23] <Daisuke_Ido> the default xubuntu setup is superficially similar to the default gnome setup
[04:23] <ender_> I have more than enough resources...I will stick with K then
[04:23] <Daisuke_Ido> as far as how it looks
[04:23] <draik> ardchoille: I want to have the option, that's all
[04:24] <ardchoille> draik: I was surprised at how well gnome and kde "played together"
[04:24] <Daisuke_Ido> they play well together by never touching
[04:24] <ardchoille> hehe
[04:24] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: try and get Windows XP and 98 to play that well :)
[04:24] <Daisuke_Ido> whenever one's on the playground, the other is inside eating glue
[04:24] <draik> ardchoille: I hope so. But will I get any conflict from what I have on my desktop? I found a few apps that are only GNOME supported. What will happen when I run KDE?
[04:24] <Daisuke_Ido> i'll leave which is which as an excercise for the reader
[04:25] <draik> Daisuke_Ido: HAHA.. I like that analogy
[04:25] <Daisuke_Ido> draik: they'll run fine
[04:25] <ender_> draik: your gnome libs will still take over
[04:25] <Dhraakellian> hmm...
[04:25] <Dhraakellian> nexuiz 2.3 was just released at the end of last month
[04:25] <ender_> in the repos?
[04:25] <draik> Ummm....
[04:25] <draik> What do I want for the Display Manager? GDM or KDM?
[04:26] <Dhraakellian> for one not familiar with Kubuntu's packaging policies, can we expect to see it in repos before Gutsy?
[04:26] <draik> For the default that is
[04:26] <soulrider> draik: kdm i guess
[04:26] <Jucato> draik: KDM if you use KDE more than GNOME
[04:26] <DaSkreech> draik: whichever you think is prettier
[04:26] <draik> I shall reserve my choice for the sake of stopping a flame war
[04:26] <ender_> or blind choice.. you can change the manager at the login window by selecting the sessions option
[04:26] <DaSkreech> granted the KDM flows nicely with KDE and GDM doesn't flow nicely with GNOME
[04:26] <Dhraakellian> if anyone knows a display manager that lets you switch keyboard layouts at runtime, please let me know
[04:26] <hiyah> hi, my /var/log/mysql.log is about 900mb now its taking up my "/" space, how do i make it gzipped by itself?
[04:27] <Jucato> draik: actually the choice between KDM or GDM is more technical
[04:27] <draik> Jucato: How so?
[04:27] <Jucato> DaSkreech: you mind revising your sentence? :)
[04:27] <Dhraakellian> DaSkreech: either will work fine with the other
[04:27] <Jucato> draik: KDM works perfectly with KDE, but not as well with GNOME. GDM works perfectly with GNOME, but not as well with KDE. so it really depends on which you use more
[04:28] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: well not entirely true, specially on feisty. KDM + GNOME will not let you restart/shutdown from GNOME, only logout
[04:28] <draik> What if I decide to go from KDE to GNOME... can I switch from KDM to GDM?
[04:28] <Dhraakellian> aah
[04:28] <DaSkreech> I meant that you can get KDM + splash + KDE desktop to be seemless
[04:28] <Daisuke_Ido> i think that works both ways too
[04:28] <Dhraakellian> okay, I sit corrected
[04:28] <Jucato> also, I think that GDM + KDE will not let you start new user sessions
[04:28] <DaSkreech> I've never seen GDM + Spalsh + Gnome not have kind of jarring cuts between them
[04:28] <Jucato> draik: um. you choose a GNOME or KDE session from the login screen
[04:28] <ardchoille> draik: Yes, simply log out and choose gnome at the login screen
[04:28] <Dhraakellian> but yeah, if I heard that GDM implemented the feature I mentioned above, I'd switch in a heartbeat
[04:29] <draik> Jucato: ardchoille: Ok, so it will choose automatically. Am I correct with this statement?
[04:29] <ardchoille> draik: I believe it's in the options menu on the login screen
[04:29] <ardchoille> draik: It will automatically choose the last session, you need to choose the one you want.
[04:29] <Jucato> draik: yes. from the login screen menu
[04:29] <draik> ardchoille: Right.
[04:29] <DaSkreech> draik: I think by default both of them loginto the last desktop you were using when you logged out
[04:29] <draik> Jucato: That's what I meant. Thank you.
[04:29] <Dhraakellian> although not being able to switch sessions or have two gui logins simultaneously might be troublesome, it would mean that, in an emergency, other people could still log into my computer too, since they wouldn't have to worry about my silly dvorak keyboard layout
[04:30] <DaSkreech>  You can switch that to anyother desktop you want at login time
[04:30] <draik> CTRL+ALT+Backspace works on both Kubuntu and Ubuntu, right?
[04:30] <Dhraakellian> draik: I don't see why it wouldn't
[04:30] <Jucato> draik: yes. because it's an X shortcut
[04:30] <ardchoille> draik: Yes, that's an xorg thing
[04:30] <Jucato> not a KDE or GNOME shortcut
[04:30] <Dhraakellian> it's an X11 thing rather than a DE-specific thing
[04:30] <draik> Dhraakellian: Jucato: ardchoille: Perfect. Thank you
[04:31] <draik> I guess I'm looking at GNOME and KDE as two different "OS"'s
[04:31] <DaSkreech> is alt+ctrl+Esc DE specific
[04:31] <Daisuke_Ido> what's nexuiz?
[04:32] <DaSkreech> draik: Well then stop :)
[04:32] <Jucato> DaSkreech: yep
[04:32] <DaSkreech> !info nexuiz
[04:32] <ubotu> nexuiz: A fast-paced 3D Ego-Shooter. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.3-1 (feisty), package size 593 kB, installed size 1488 kB
[04:32] <draik> DaSkreech: I guess I will :)
[04:32] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Ido: double underline fast paced
[04:32] <Dhraakellian> Daisuke_Ido: it's a F/OSS FPS descended from teh original Quake
[04:32] <Dhraakellian> well, it uses the Darkplaces engine, at least, and that's descended from the original Quake
[04:33] <Dhraakellian> http://alientrap.org/ 2.3 was just released a week or two ago
[04:33] <CPrgmSwR2> How do you setup Kubuntu to rip to mp3?
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> CPrgmSwR2: kaudiocreator
[04:33] <Dhraakellian> !mp3
[04:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> + lame
[04:33] <CPrgmSwR2> thats right
[04:34] <CPrgmSwR2> I need to install lame
[04:34] <draik> What is evolution?
[04:34] <Dhraakellian> draik: email, calendar, etc
[04:34] <Dhraakellian> to quote my father, "what outlook should have been"
[04:34] <draik> Dhraakellian: Thank you
[04:34] <DaSkreech> !info evolution
[04:34] <ubotu> evolution: groupware suite with mail client and organizer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2478 kB, installed size 7704 kB
[04:34] <Dhraakellian> (non verbatim)
[04:35] <DaSkreech> Dhraakellian: What does he base that on?
[04:35] <Daisuke_Ido> Dhraakellian: i've heard about rubyripper, but the rubyforge project doesn't exist anymore
[04:35] <Dhraakellian> Daisuke_Ido: just a sec
[04:35] <Dhraakellian> http://code.google.com/p/rubyripper/
[04:35] <jovi> hi,everybaby,  i ask a quest?   KUBUNTU  would  use taobao_net  wangwang of china?????
[04:35] <draik> Ok. It's done.
[04:35] <Dhraakellian> iirc, the version in the repos is out of date
[04:35] <draik> BRB... under GNOME
[04:35] <Dhraakellian> .4 has been out for a while
[04:35] <Dhraakellian> !info rubyripper
[04:35] <ubotu> Package rubyripper does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:36] <Daisuke_Ido> oh sweet mother of $DEITY
[04:36] <jovi> how to used?
[04:36] <Jucato> jovi: try asking in #ubuntu-cn
[04:36] <Dhraakellian> hmm... must have gotten it from another repo
[04:36] <Aresilek> how do i change file associations in kubuntu?
[04:36] <jovi> Jucato : thanks
[04:36] <Jucato> Aresilek: Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror
[04:37] <Dhraakellian> but, yeah, Rubyripper probably isn't anywhere near the quality of EAC or dbpoweramp if you really care about such things
[04:37] <Aresilek> thx Jucato
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> it looks better than kaudiocreator
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> and i do care about such things
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> oink gets upset if i don't :\
[04:38] <Dhraakellian> however, if EAC doesn't want to cooperate with your Wine setup or if you don't like using gratis-only software, Rubyripper probably does better ripping than other cdparanoia frontends
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> granted the gui is friggin ugly, but meh
[04:38] <Jucato> n8k99: hush :P
[04:38] <Dhraakellian> Daisuke_Ido: yeah, I was trying not to mention OPP
[04:38] <Dhraakellian> !;)
[04:38] <jovi> i used English vesion , don't input chinese ? how to??
[04:39] <Daisuke_Ido> ah ha
[04:39] <Daisuke_Ido> so far i've had no problems with any of my submissions to OPP
[04:40] <Dhraakellian> woah, wait, what?
[04:40] <Dhraakellian> why the feisty am I only running at 54Hz?
[04:40] <Daisuke_Ido> mine says that too
[04:40] <Daisuke_Ido> i do believe it's actually 60hz
[04:40] <Dhraakellian> no, it's just that I know for a fact that this monitor is capable of a heckuva lot more than that
[04:41] <Dhraakellian> ardchoille: "heck of a"
[04:41] <ardchoille> hehe
[04:41] <n8k99> heckuva >= a whole bunch
[04:42] <BluesKaj> Dhraakellian, have you checked out the system settings for your graphics card ?
[04:42] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: LCD monitor?
[04:42] <Dhraakellian> Jucato: IBM 6557 P92
[04:42] <Dhraakellian> 19" behemoth CRT
[04:43] <Jucato> aah.. if you have an OSD that displays the Info for your monitor, trust that more than the control module :)
[04:43] <Biovore> oO
[04:43] <Dhraakellian> ah, okay, here we go
[04:43] <evsophomore2009> Can someone help me!!!!!!!!!
[04:43] <Dhraakellian> now it's showing me 75Hz as an option
[04:44] <Jucato> although in this instance, i trust display config more than kde's built in display module :)
[04:44] <n8k99> evsophomore2009: ask your question
[04:44] <Jucato> er "displayconfig"
[04:44] <Jucato> !someone | evsophomore2009
[04:44] <ubotu> evsophomore2009: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:44] <evsophomore2009> okay so im trying to download Sun Java 5. and for some reason, it wont go past 4%
[04:44] <Biovore> this though apt?
[04:44] <evsophomore2009> every time i try to download somthing on Adept Manager, it will NEVER finish downloading
[04:45] <n8k99> you need to look in the details and approve the liscense
[04:45] <Biovore> sun java is probably not making it because its prompting for a license..
[04:45] <shiers69> When i try to install from a live cd (kubuntu 7.04) while only having my blank scsi disk installed i receive the "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" error, is there a fix for this yet?
[04:45] <Dhraakellian> hmm... but only in admin mode
[04:45] <evsophomore2009> so how do i stop the download?
[04:45] <n8k99> is it still downloading now?
[04:45] <Biovore> evsophomore2009: try installing sun java from the command line using "sudo apt-get install <package_name>
[04:46] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, you have to check the details and say yes to the agrements with java DLs
[04:46] <evsophomore2009> theres no option to stop it, and when i close out of it, it wont let me load Apept because "another file is installing" but i cant open it
[04:46] <BluesKaj> agreements
[04:46] <draik> My question now is...  Beat me to my question.
[04:47] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[04:47] <evsophomore2009> n8k99: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[04:47] <Biovore> hmm adept running or apt process of some kind?
[04:47] <draik> ardchoille: Well, that crashed out
[04:48] <ardchoille> draik: You in kde right now?
[04:48] <draik> ardchoille: Nope. GNOME
[04:48] <Jucato> draik: change your GNOME theme
[04:48] <evsophomore2009> well Adept is running right now, but if i close the Installation, i wont ever be able to get back into Adept
[04:48] <draik> Jucato: It crashed
[04:48] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:48] <Jucato> System -> Personal -> Theme
[04:49] <Jucato> draik: dunno why it would crash
[04:49] <ardchoille> draik: Try asking in #ubuntu, they can give you better advice than I.
[04:49] <Biovore> If 1000/400 = 4 then computer geek you be
[04:49] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, you can only run one pkg manager scrn at a time
[04:49] <DaSkreech> !adept crash fix | evsophomore2009
[04:49] <ubotu> evsophomore2009: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:50] <evsophomore2009> Okay so i want to run Frostwire
[04:50] <evsophomore2009> it says i need Java 1.5x
[04:50] <evsophomore2009> how do i get that?
[04:51] <n8k99> !java
[04:51] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:51] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, have you unlocked the pkg manager ?, if not you can't install anything until you do
[04:51] <evsophomore2009> yes its unlocked
[04:52] <louis_> anybody know how to turn off those annoying sounds when you open and close a window?
[04:52] <draik> Well, I'm not bad mouthing one or the other, but I can see why people would choose KDE over GNOME
[04:52] <shiers69> "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"  <--Anyone know wtf that's about?
[04:52] <n8k99> louis_: system settings > notifications
[04:52] <evsophomore2009> n8k99: Can you help me install java without using Adept
[04:53] <BluesKaj> louis , system settings / notifications/ turn off all sounds/apply
[04:53] <evsophomore2009> Because im using Kubuntu Edgy (6.10)
[04:53] <Biovore> evsophomore2009: once you get the apt thing unlocked.. do the following
[04:53] <Biovore> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-fonts
[04:53] <evsophomore2009> Biovore: it says i cant use Adept to install java on Kubuntu Edgy
[04:53] <jrattner> Question: I'm trying to connect to my laptop via bluetooth (Ubuntu 7.04) and its asking me for the Passkey....What is the passkey?
[04:53] <jrattner> ?
[04:53] <DaSkreech> draik: less letters to type?
[04:53] <Biovore> evsophomore2009: yes.. use the command line interface and type that command in..
[04:53] <draik> DaSkreech: That too!
[04:53] <evsophomore2009> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:53] <evsophomore2009> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:53] <DaSkreech> Biovore: he needs backports turned on
[04:54] <Biovore> adept running?
[04:54] <louis_> n8k99, thanks
[04:54] <Biovore> is he running edgy or older?
[04:54] <n8k99> louis_: your welcome
[04:54] <louis_> well that takes care of that!
[04:54] <ardchoille> evsophomore2009: ps aux | grep adept    <- does that return more than one line?
[04:55] <louis_> !beryl
[04:55] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:55] <evsophomore2009> Reading package lists... Done
[04:55] <evsophomore2009> Building dependency tree
[04:55] <evsophomore2009> Reading state information... Done
[04:55] <evsophomore2009> E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-bin
[04:55] <DaSkreech> Biovore: Edgy
[04:55] <Biovore> oh..
[04:55] <Biovore> yeah.. have to enable backports then..
[04:55] <evsophomore2009> whats that?
[04:55] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, your pkg manager is still locked up ...you have run the " sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a "  command and relogin
[04:55] <ardchoille> !repos
[04:55] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:56] <BluesKaj> anyway , it's sacktime for me
[04:56] <BluesKaj> nite all
[04:57] <ardchoille> nn BlueDevil
[04:57] <ardchoille> Opps, tab completion bit me
[04:57] <DaSkreech> ha ha I have to call him BlueDevil next time he logs in
[04:57] <rodrigo> #translator
[04:58] <rodrigo> #list
[04:58] <war8> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[04:58] <draik> How do I find out my KDE version? Does it apply when I'm in GNOME?
[04:58] <Jucato> draik: "kde-config --version"
[04:58] <n8k99> draik: or in any menu > help> about kde
[04:59] <Jucato> n8k99: 2nd part of the question :)
[04:59] <Jucato> draik: stop thinking of KDE and GNOME as different OS's and start thinking of them as programs. it will help you not get confused :)
[04:59] <draik> 3.5.6
[04:59] <n8k99> oh yeah-
[04:59] <shiers69> "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"  <--Anyone know wtf that's about? happens when booting from the livecd.
[05:00] <evsophomore2009> n8k99: Now my Adept Manager wont open!!1
[05:00] <Jucato> n8k99: heh me too :)
[05:00] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: lets try and fix the java problem first
[05:00] <Jucato> evsophomore2009: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[05:00] <n8k99> did you login back in?
[05:01] <evsophomore2009> DaSkreech: Okay im on Adept, and im on the Manage Resp. Now what?
[05:01] <louis_> hey, can somebody explain the difference between a desktop environment and a windows manager?
[05:02] <rodrigo> guys one doubt
[05:02] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: look for a set of lines that says backports
[05:02] <louis_> fluxbox is a WM and KDE is a DE right?
[05:02] <DaSkreech> louis_: right
[05:02] <rodrigo> can I have kubuntu and ubuntu at the same time?
[05:02] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: good time to ask that question
[05:02] <DaSkreech> draik: want to take that one?
[05:02] <ardchoille> shiers69: I don't know how to solve that, but here are some links to maybe help: http://tinyurl.com/2jrdto
[05:02] <rodrigo> hey dask what's up my man!
[05:02] <rodrigo> daskreech
[05:02] <evsophomore2009> DaSkreech: A set of lines that says Backports? Cant find it
[05:02] <DaSkreech> hey rodrigo :)
[05:02] <shiers69> archoille: i've been looking all day w/ no avail
[05:02] <draik> DaSkreech: What to take what?
[05:03] <draik> rodrigo: DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:03] <evsophomore2009> daskreech: Found it, it says
[05:03] <DaSkreech> draik: the question can you have Kubuntu and ubuntu at the same time
[05:03] <rodrigo> daskreech what?
[05:03] <draik> rodrigo: I mean, sure. I don't see why not
[05:03] <evsophomore2009> Edgy-Backports Main Restricted
[05:03] <Daisuke_Ido> rodrigo: it works just fine :)
[05:03] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: yes. Enables that
[05:03] <draik> rodrigo: I just did it not too long about... about 10-15 mintues ago
[05:03] <evsophomore2009> both
[05:03] <evsophomore2009> ?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> Jucato: java is in restricted ?
[05:04] <rodrigo> draik: do what?
[05:04] <Jucato> DaSkreech: multiverse
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Jucato: blast
[05:04] <draik> rodrigo: Ubuntu and Kubuntu at the same time
[05:04] <draik> I'm on Ubuntu right now.
[05:04] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: do you see a backports with multiverse?
[05:04] <draik> I was on Kubuntu about 15 minutes ago
[05:04] <Jucato> DaSkreech: which is enabled by default in feisty.
[05:04] <evsophomore2009> yes there are two
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Jucato: edgy
[05:04] <rodrigo> draik:  ahh  and it't bad or something?
[05:04] <evsophomore2009> one is Deb, and the other is Deb-Src
[05:04] <Jucato> ah I see
[05:04] <n8k99> Jucato: he's not on feist
[05:04] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: ok enable the backports wiith multiverse
[05:04] <n8k99> y
[05:05] <Jucato> n8k99: <Jucato> ah I see
[05:05] <evsophomore2009> Daskreech: Done
[05:05] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: you don't need the deb-src one
[05:05] <DaSkreech> doesn't hurt
[05:05] <rodrigo> hey daskreech: I have an  easy duck for you now
[05:05] <DaSkreech> but you don't need it
[05:05] <draik> rodrigo: I'm getting frustrated with Ubuntu right now, that's all. It's worth doing. If for nothing else, just to say you did it
[05:05] <evsophomore2009> kk done
[05:05] <Jucato> DaSkreech: it does hurt if he doesn't need it. makes apt-get update longer
[05:05] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: save and fetch updates
[05:05] <jovi> ask question?   how to input chinese in  ubuntu  ???
[05:05] <evsophomore2009> okay brb REAL quick
[05:05] <Jucato> !scim
[05:05] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[05:05] <Jucato> jovi: ^^^^^
[05:05] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I know but how big can deb-src for multiverse be? :-) by definition it's not open source
[05:06] <rodrigo> talking me about frustration: My scan doesn't work with linux, I see a cool graphic tablet that doens't have linux drivers
[05:06] <rodrigo> I have tried to install a program too long
[05:06] <Jucato> DaSkreech: it can be quite big. and you have a wrong definition of multiverse
[05:06] <rodrigo> cinelerra
[05:06] <rodrigo> for too long
[05:06] <Jucato> or rather, an incomplete one
[05:06] <n8k99> rodrigo: scanner or pen tablet input
[05:06] <rodrigo> both
[05:06] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I guess I do then
[05:07] <Jucato> DaSkreech: mplayer is definitely open source, but it's in multiverse
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Ph Jucato do you know anything about segmentation core dumps?
[05:07] <rodrigo> I do really must talk with the linux art people
[05:07] <Jucato> DaSkreech: Ph no...
[05:07] <rodrigo> they had abandon us
[05:07] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: try #oxygen or #plasma
[05:07] <Jucato> ?
[05:07] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: or art4linux.org
[05:07] <Jucato> what does plasma have to do with it?
[05:07] <DaSkreech> http://art4linux.org
[05:07] <Jucato> or oxygen even?
[05:08] <DaSkreech> Jucato: art dudes hang there
[05:08] <evsophomore2009> daskreech: Back
[05:08] <DaSkreech> he's been trying to get cinelerra to install from like last week
[05:08] <DaSkreech> It's installed now but segfaults
[05:08] <draik> I feel sorry for all the little kids outside playing with their parents
 talking me about frustration: My scan doesn't work with linux, I see a cool graphic tablet that doens't have linux drivers
[05:08] <n8k99> oh yikes
[05:08] <rodrigo> yea
[05:08] <DaSkreech> He gave up on cinelerra
[05:09] <rodrigo> no no no
[05:09] <rodrigo> I haven't give up my dear friend
[05:09] <rodrigo> just step by step
[05:09] <DaSkreech> now he wants to get his lexmark scanner/printer working
[05:09] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: great
[05:09] <draik> I'm about to scream some obscene words about Ubuntu's GDM  theme crap... I can't do jack with it
[05:09] <sebastianhooker> hey, uhh, question
[05:09] <n8k99> lexmark?!!1
[05:09] <DaSkreech> draik: KDE's themes are worse
[05:09] <rodrigo> yep one all in one
[05:09] <DaSkreech> !ask sebastianhooker
[05:09] <Jucato> draik: hm?
[05:09] <DaSkreech> !ask | sebastianhooker
[05:09] <ubotu> sebastianhooker: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:10] <sebastianhooker> if you went camping with your friend and got really really drunk, woke up the next morning with a condom in your ass, would you tell anyone?
[05:10] <Jucato> !offtopic | sebastianhooker
[05:10] <ubotu> sebastianhooker: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:10] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: do you still have the URL for the pastebin ?
[05:10] <rodrigo> hey daskreech what are the topic of oxygen and plasma?
[05:10] <draik> DaSkreech: I can't do anything with the Theme Manager in Ubuntu. It freezes up
[05:10] <rodrigo> nope
[05:10] <n8k99> !language | sebastianhooker
[05:10] <ubotu> sebastianhooker: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:10] <rodrigo> send it please bro
[05:10] <sebastianhooker> rodrigo: you wouldn't tell anyone?
[05:10] <draik> Jucato: I can't do anything. Theme Manager in Ubuntu keeps freezing. I can't select the damn thing I downloaded for the new Theme I want to use
[05:10] <DaSkreech> sebastianhooker: please stay on topic
[05:10] <DaSkreech> draik: filea bug :)
[05:11] <sebastianhooker> DaSkreech: would you tell anyone?
[05:11] <DaSkreech> !paste
[05:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:11] <draik> That's what it keeps telling me to do
[05:11] <draik> Screw it
[05:11] <sebastianhooker> !language | draik
[05:11] <ubotu> draik: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:11] <DaSkreech> Jucato: devoice or kick please
[05:11] <draik> sebastianhooker: You want to talk about watching my language? Take a look at your nick
[05:11] <Daisuke_Ido> sebastianhooker: thanks for continuing to rip off bash.
[05:12] <n8k99> draik: easy
[05:12] <sebastianhooker> draik: i can't change my last name douchebag
[05:12] <ardchoille> draik: You can set the theme from the command line.. it's via the gconftool-2
[05:12] <draik> Thank you Jucato
[05:12] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: run cinelerra from the command line again and paste the error
[05:13] <draik> ardchoille: Would you know the complete command?
[05:13] <draik> Ubuntu is really of hardly any help
[05:14] <ardchoille> draik: I haven't used gnome in a while, but the command is something like:  gconftool-2 --set string /path/to/key    you'll have to look up the exact suntax in man gconftool-2
[05:14] <draik> Thank you
[05:16] <DaSkreech> n8k99: yes lexmark
[05:16] <Daisuke_Ido> lexmark.  ancient greek for "satan"
[05:16] <DaSkreech> Which is ancient celtic for compaq
[05:17] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm, my translation must be off, i got "Packard Bell"
[05:17] <DaSkreech> 6 of one 1/2 dozen of the other
[05:18] <Daisuke_Ido> true, true
[05:19] <draik> ardchoille: gconftool-2 --install-schema-file=FILENAME
[05:19] <wsjunior> what's the package that contains c libraries manpages?
[05:19] <Rictoo_> How do I see what partitions I have form shell?
[05:19] <draik> ardchoille: What do I put in for a file name?
[05:19] <n8k99> good luck with that $PRINTER_FROM_THE_FIERY_PIT
[05:19] <DaSkreech> Rictoo_: df I think
[05:20] <ardchoille> draik: I haven't used that in a while, can't remember the exact commands :(
[05:20] <DaSkreech> Rictoo_: or you could ls /dev/hd* /dev/sd*
[05:20] <TheCreationist> My friend and I are trying to connect our PCs with Krdc and Krfb, but she's behind a router so the invitation doesn't seem to work.  How can I connect to her computer when she has a router?
[05:20] <draik> ardchoille: It's ok. I thank you for your time and patience with me.
[05:20] <ardchoille> :)
[05:20] <draik> Time to do the unthinkable... ask Ubuntu
[05:21] <ardchoille> draik: An easier way to install that theme is to simply unpack it into ~/.themes
[05:21] <n8k99> TheCreationist: she needs to forward the router table to allow vnc to go to Port:100
[05:21] <draik> ardchoille: That works for me!
[05:21] <TheCreationist> n8k99: You wouldn't happen to know how we do that, do you?
[05:21] <n8k99> TheCreationist: sorry not port 100 but the ifconfig ip address she is at
[05:21] <ardchoille> draik: Then you can: gconftool-2 --type string --set /path/to/key "theme name"   but you'll have to figure out the path to key bit
[05:22] <namol> TheCreationist, port 5900 actually
[05:22] <ardchoille> draik: There's an example of that in man gconftool-2
[05:22] <namol> is vnc
[05:22] <draik> ardchoille: What is the key?
[05:22] <TheCreationist> namol: How does she set her router up to allow that?
[05:22] <n8k99> TheCreationist: shen needs to configure her router (usually @ <IP_ADDRESS>)
[05:22] <namol> TheCreationist, she needs to configure port forwarding on her router
[05:23] <Rictoo_> How do I see my physical drives and where the partitions are located on them from shell?
[05:23] <namol> also, what ip address are you trying to connect too?
[05:23] <war8> yui
[05:23] <DaSkreech> Rictoo_: what do you need to know?
[05:23] <ardchoille> draik: Open gconf-editor and look in the /apps key to find the theme.. I think it's /apps/gnome/desktop/theme or something like that. That tree in gconf-editor is the same as the /path/to/key (you'll see it in the bottom left of the status bar in gconf-editor)
[05:23] <TheCreationist> namol: Her invitation is sending me to an IP address <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:23] <namol> if it's an internal ip address, ie the 192.168.x.x schema
[05:23] <DaSkreech> hi war8
[05:23] <TheCreationist> namol: But that's internal, isn't it?
[05:24] <namol> TheCreationist, that's an internal ip, you need the external ip
[05:24] <TheCreationist> namol: How would she find that?
[05:24] <namol> you'll need to find out her external ip
[05:24] <n8k99> http://whatsmyip.com
[05:24] <ardchoille> draik: btw, you can use gconftool-2 to set almost everything in gnome (ie icon theme, window manager theme, control theme, desktop wallpaper, etc)
[05:24] <namol> have her go to http://www.acction.com/~plowther/ip.php
[05:25] <namol> that'll tell her the external ip address
[05:25] <draik> ardchoille: I hope all of this works
[05:25] <namol> or n8k99's website works too
[05:25] <wsjunior> is there any package that provide manpages for c libraries?
[05:26] <TheCreationist> namol: Okay, she found her external IP... now what?
[05:26] <ardchoille> draik: Also, have a look at: http://ubuntuforums.org/   <- that's one of the best sites for Ubuntu
[05:26] <namol> connect to that external ip, what happens?
[05:26] <TheCreationist> namol: Same thing... nothing.
[05:26] <n8k99> TheCreationist: you need to send krdc to her vnc://external ip
[05:26] <TheCreationist> namol: Connection eventually fails.
[05:27] <DaSkreech> wsjunior: I'd assume libcsomething
[05:27] <DaSkreech> Rictoo_: ping
[05:27] <namol> TheCreationist, does she have admin permissions on the router?
[05:27] <n8k99> TheCreationist: she still needs to forward her router to allow vnc to go to her machine
[05:27] <TheCreationist> namol: I'm sure she does.
[05:27] <namol> have her go to <IP_ADDRESS> in her web browser
[05:28] <wsjunior> DaSkreech: tried glibc-doc but didnt work
[05:28] <DaSkreech> What does that install?
[05:29] <n8k99> TheCreationist:  or <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:29] <namol> n8k99, her invite she sent was <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:29] <namol> so if it's the standard subnet, it's going to be <IP_ADDRESS> as the gateway
[05:29] <TheCreationist> namol: I've seen her router and it mentions the IP address for the actualy router as <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:29] <n8k99> namol: right-
[05:30] <TheCreationist> namol: Okay, she's wondering why her password doesn't work.  Is it the same as the WEP for her network?
[05:30] <namol> TheCreationist, no
[05:30] <namol> what type of router is it?
[05:30] <namol> did she ever reset the default admin password?
[05:31] <wsjunior> DaSkreech: just html files
[05:31] <wsjunior> i would like to have man math.h working
[05:31] <DaSkreech> wsjunior: wait. You want a man file for the libs?
[05:31] <wsjunior> or something similar
[05:31] <ardchoille> draik: You still working on it? I found some new info
[05:31] <Jucato> c libraries/headers
[05:31] <wsjunior> got it?
[05:31] <wsjunior> ya
[05:31] <ardchoille> draik: What's the theme name?
[05:31] <TheCreationist> namol: I hope she changed the default... she's trying right now ;)
[05:31] <draik> ardchoille: Where do I find my trash can?
[05:31] <wsjunior> whats the package for the c libs/headers manpages Jucato?
[05:32] <Jucato> draik: in GNOME? it's ~/.Trash
[05:32] <ardchoille> draik: To set the theme using conftool-2: gconftool-2 --type string --set /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_theme "theme-name"
[05:32] <namol> TheCreationist, it's no big deal if she didn't, by default the remote admin feature is disable on most soho routers
[05:32] <Jucato> wsjunior: searching...
[05:32] <TheCreationist> namol: She said she doesn't remember the password, but knows the user name is root.  The router is a "Buffalo Air Station"
[05:33] <wsjunior> Jucato: already tried glibc-doc.. its not what im looking for..
[05:34] <Jucato> !info manpages-dev
[05:34] <ubotu> manpages-dev: Manual pages about using GNU/Linux for development. In component main, is optional. Version 2.39-1 (feisty), package size 1185 kB, installed size 2916 kB
[05:34] <Jucato> try that wsjunior ^^
[05:34] <Jucato> er wait...
[05:34] <namol> TheCreationist, tell her to try root with no password
[05:34] <namol> see if that works
[05:35] <TheCreationist> namol: Never mind... she figured it out.  Had to do with the middle green light at the top right of her keyboard ;)
[05:35] <namol> the caps lock?
[05:35] <Jucato> wsjunior: try manpages-dev or try using info instead of man.
[05:35] <TheCreationist> namol: yep
[05:35] <namol> lol
[05:35] <namol> ok
[05:35] <TheCreationist> namol: :)
[05:35] <DaSkreech> wsjunior: are you sure what you are looking for exists?
[05:35] <TheCreationist> namol: So she's into the config now.
[05:35] <namol> now have her look for some sort of applications tab
[05:35] <namol> there should be some form of port forwarding in there
[05:36] <wsjunior> DaSkreech: im sure it exists for freebsd
[05:36] <wsjunior> not for linux..
[05:36] <evsophomore2009> DaSckreech: Thanks for helpin me, i got Frostwire to work =D
[05:36] <wsjunior> Jucato: wrong package dude
[05:36] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: great :)
[05:36] <evsophomore2009> g2g Peace
[05:36] <TheCreationist> namol: She sees "port mapping for internet games"
[05:36] <wsjunior> DaSkreech: something like this: http://threads.seas.gwu.edu/cgi-bin/man2web?program=math&section=3
[05:37] <Jucato> DaSkreech: it does exist iirc. just looking for the correct package
[05:38] <DaSkreech> okie :)
[05:38] <wsjunior> freebsd-manpages, Jucato?
[05:38] <Jucato> wsjunior: of course not that
[05:39] <namol> let me look on buffalo's website
[05:40] <TheCreationist> namol: Yeah, she doesn't see anything about port forwarding.
[05:41] <Jucato> wsjunior: manpages-dev does it for me. at least for C (not C++)
[05:42] <wsjunior> not for me
[05:42] <Jucato> how are you checking? "man printf" works here
[05:42] <wsjunior> what about man math or math.h
[05:42] <Jucato> "man stdio" too
[05:42] <n8k99> TheCreationist: maybe something says Applications and Gaming
[05:42] <wsjunior> does it works for u?
[05:42] <wsjunior> not for me
[05:42] <Jucato> not math
[05:42] <wsjunior> so its not what im looking for
[05:42] <wsjunior> :)
[05:43] <wsjunior> going back to freebsd :-p
[05:43] <Jucato> um... just because it doesn't have math.h doesn't mean it's not for the C headers/libraries. because stdio, string, printf, etc are definitely there
[05:44] <Jucato> sheesh! talk about patience
[05:44] <n8k99> Jucato: is "patience" ontopif?
[05:45] <DaSkreech> Jucato: he wants man pages for all the C headers?
[05:45] <n8k99> s/on topic/ontopif
[05:45] <DaSkreech> I've never heard of that
[05:45] <DaSkreech> my ls /usr/share/man/man3 is anemic
[05:48] <DaSkreech> Oooh Oooh is it me? Do I get flowers?
[05:50] <n8k99> no way- it's me - i know it's me this time
[05:50] <DaSkreech> Murderer!!!
[05:50] <DaSkreech> After all he did for the community!!!
[05:50] <n8k99> not a baby tux!!
[05:50] <Jucato> cruelty to animals
[05:51] <n8k99> shish!
[05:51] <TheCreationist> namol: Any luck?
[05:51] <namol> nope
[05:51] <namol> look under applications
[05:51] <namol> and look for some advanced settings
[05:52] <n8k99> namol it may just be a table
[05:53] <namol> could bed
[05:53] <namol> be
[05:53] <TheCreationist> namol: She said there's no "Applications" section, but she's been looking under advanced settings with no luck.
[05:53] <namol> i use openwrt on mine
[05:53] <namol> there's no applications tab or anything?
[05:53] <n8k99> there was an internet gamings tab right?
[05:53] <namol> what about a network tab
[05:54] <Messito> somebody help me please
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Messito: sure
[05:55] <namol> Messito, did that help?
[05:55] <TheCreationist> namol: This is what she said she has:    network config : route info NAT   IP filter   Intrusion Detector   UPnP
[05:55] <Messito> DaSkreech thanx
[05:55] <Messito> The utility unrar is not in your PATH.
[05:55] <Messito> Please install it or contact your system administrator.
[05:55] <DaSkreech> !unrar
[05:55] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:55] <DaSkreech> There you go
[05:55] <namol> sudo apt-get install unrar
[05:55] <namol> sudo apt-get install rar
[05:56] <TheCreationist> namol: And "internet games: Port translation configuration"
[05:56] <namol> from the console
[05:56] <namol> TheCreationist, have her go to that
[05:56] <Messito> namol which one the first or the second?
[05:56] <namol> Messito, both
[05:56] <n8k99> TheCreationist: internet game!!!
[05:56] <Messito> oK
[05:57] <mike_> Is anyone in here famillar with Frostwire?
[05:57] <TheCreationist> mike_: I am.
[05:57] <TheCreationist> mike_: What do you need?
[05:58] <mike_> cam you tell me if its possible to exit out of it, without it actuilly ending the app
[05:58] <mike_> like, i want it to go down to the system tray
[05:58] <TheCreationist> mike_: Keep it in the tray?  I haven't been able to find that setting either.
[05:58] <mike_> but when i click on the X is closes out
[05:58] <mike_> dang
[05:58] <DaSkreech> It's there
[05:58] <mike_> because its kinda annoying to keep it up
[05:58] <DaSkreech> When I installed it it asked me the first time
[05:58] <DaSkreech>  so it has the pref
[05:58] <mike_> hmm
[05:59] <mike_> TheCreationist: is it possible to get itunes?>
[05:59] <solid_liq> anyone know why, when I try to print in feisty, cups gives me the error: request entity too large?
[05:59] <TheCreationist> mike_: Ew.  Why would you want it?
[05:59] <mike_> well i need to put music on my iPod
[05:59] <mike_> i know, i cant stand it either
[05:59] <mike_> and idk how to get music on my iPod without it
[06:00] <n8k99> doesn't amarok detect your ipod?
[06:00] <dogatemycomputer> !ipod
[06:00] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[06:01] <mike_> okay hold on let me try
[06:03] <mike_> n8k99: How do i open up my iPod on Amarok?
[06:03] <Zeelot3k> hey guys, is there some way I can have scripts run before I login?
[06:03] <DaSkreech> !autorun
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autorun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <hikaricore> Devices on the bottom left?
[06:03] <sfire> Zeelot3k: yes rc.local
[06:04] <Zeelot3k> what is that?
[06:04] <n8k99> mike_ there should be a tab called devices on teh left that provides and interface
[06:04] <dogatemycomputer> Zeelot3k: you can have a script run at login..
[06:04] <DaSkreech> dogatemycomputer: before login
[06:04] <sfire> Zeelot3k: /etc/rc.local
[06:04] <sfire> Zeelot3k: its like a autoexec.bat file
[06:05] <Zeelot3k> thanks
[06:05] <mike_> it says no Mountable Medium Found
[06:05] <n8k99> dumbe question: is your ipod connected (physically)?
[06:05] <mike_> Yes
[06:06] <mike_> it shows up on my desktop
[06:06] <mike_> but not Amarok
[06:06] <mike_> oh nevermind
[06:06] <mike_> it found it i guess
[06:06] <n8k99> oh- how about that!
[06:06] <dthacker> my Dell Inspiron 5100 has been shutting down due to temperature.  Is there a montor I can install?    How do I get network manager to stop starting on boot?  It's not in the .kde/autostart folder.... ???
[06:08] <mike_> lol sorry if i sounded rude, i was just kinda confused
[06:08] <n8k99> flowingfire: what are you going to use to connect to your network?
[06:09] <flowingfire> What do you mean?  I had to manually configure my essid through kcontrol to get it working to begin with.  Network manager is no help.
[06:09] <DaSkreech> mike_: we have had a lot of people logged in with that nick who promise to come back later
[06:09] <DaSkreech> it's a little confusing
[06:09] <flowingfire> Might network manager be okay anyway?
[06:10] <n8k99> are you on a laptop?
[06:10] <flowingfire> Yes, indeed, u8k99
[06:11] <DaSkreech> that's some nice dyslexia :)
[06:11] <Zeelot3k> ok another question, if I log into a linux box with putty and start sending a file with ftp, how can I make it so it doesn't stop if I close putty?
[06:11] <mike_> thats weird
[06:12] <mike_> Hey umm okay, so i have Amarok running, but i know this sounds stupid
[06:12] <sfire> Zeelot3k: the screen command
[06:12] <mike_> but i have songs saved on frostwire
[06:12] <mike_> how do i add it to my iPod?
[06:12] <dthacker> Zeelot3k: use screen
[06:12] <flowingfire> But anyway: Is there another folder with autostart features?  I want to hunt down networkmanager and rid myself of it.
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Zeelot3k: nohup
[06:12] <sfire> Zeelot3k: with the screen command you can detach from a session and resume it later.. even if you disconnect the SSH session
[06:12] <Zeelot3k> hmmm
[06:12] <dthacker> !skype
[06:12] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[06:13] <DaSkreech> Zeelot3k: though screen is nicer. But more complex
[06:13] <sfire> flowingfire: just un-install it?
[06:13] <n8k99> mike_: what folder does frostwire save your songs? add that to tyour collection in amarok
[06:13] <mike_> never mind, got it
[06:14] <flowingfire> sfire: That would be too easy, lol.
[06:14] <DaSkreech> mike_: :-D
[06:14] <flowingfire> !anything
[06:14] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[06:14] <TheCreationist> namol: I figured it out, by the way.
[06:14] <mike_> So im happy that i decided to switch to Kubutnu
[06:15] <sfire> flowingfire: the only other way I know is to close it and end your session.. when you log back in it'll remember all the apps you had running and restart them
[06:15] <flowingfire> mike_ : Me too.  It's so much sexier than Windows XP ... bleh!
[06:15] <sfire> that should (don't quote me) stop it from loading
[06:15] <mike_> I liked windows, but i wanted a change, and i was about to change back, but Kubutnu has ALOT more freedom, and its just all around great
[06:15] <flowingfire> sfire: :) cool.... ok
[06:15] <sfire> mike_: I run most of the windows apps I need in wine :)
[06:15] <sfire> works flawlessly
[06:15] <mike_> whats Wine?
[06:15] <DaSkreech> mike_: hang out here a few hours each week. You'll pick up loads of tips
[06:15] <sfire> wine = windows emulator
[06:15] <DaSkreech> mike_: found alt+space yet?
[06:16] <n8k99> sfire: only if you have confiugured sessions to start last session
[06:16] <flowingfire> l8r for now, all. :)
[06:16] <mike_> how do i get wine?
[06:16] <DaSkreech> !wine
[06:16] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:16] <sfire> mike_: sudo apt-get install wine
[06:18] <sfire> nothing is as good as having all your favorite windows apps right inside linux... without running a virtual machine
[06:18] <DaSkreech> sfire: most
[06:19] <DaSkreech> dthacker: check winhq.org
[06:20] <CPrgmSwR2> What package do I need to install the openGL documentation?
[06:20] <Rictoo_> " As far as i understand, you MUST remove all existing xgl/aiglx from your system for this method."
[06:20] <Rictoo_> How do I do that?
[06:21] <DaSkreech> Rictoo_: what method?
[06:21] <Rictoo_> For beryk
[06:21] <Rictoo_> beryl* on nvidia
[06:21] <DaSkreech> Rictoo_: have you asked in #ubuntu-effects ?
[06:22] <Rictoo_> I am
[06:22] <Rictoo_> currenly :\
[06:22] <Schuenemann> !midi
[06:22] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[06:23] <Schuenemann> is midi proprietary?
[06:23] <sfire> no.. its a open standard
[06:23] <sfire> still used in lots of music equipment
[06:24] <Schuenemann> then why can't we play it with the default installation?
[06:24] <n8k99> musical instrument digital interface
[06:25] <n8k99> because you need sound files for the various instruments which are supported by the protocol
[06:26] <n8k99> afaik there has been little effort to create a free instrument sounds library
[06:26] <n8k99> of quality
[06:26] <sfire> there isn't much interest
[06:26] <Schuenemann> what do you mean free?
[06:26] <sfire> (except with musicians)
[06:26] <Schuenemann> isn't free the same as open?
[06:26] <n8k99> even with them- there is the effort
[06:26] <Schuenemann> open standard, as sfire said
[06:27] <n8k99> midi is a protocol- that passes information between componenets
[06:27] <n8k99> your computer and a synthesizer
[06:27] <Schuenemann> hmm
[06:27] <n8k99> for teh computer to play the file- it has to have a sound library
[06:28] <sfire> or use one built into a sound card
[06:28] <n8k99> A4 for instrument #2
[06:28] <dthacker> DaSkreech: winehq says definitely maybe for my version of RCT.  Newer version is platinum pick.
[06:28] <dthacker> tnx
[06:28] <Schuenemann> ok
[06:28] <dthacker> Is there a way to monitor the temperature probes on a Dell laptop?
[06:28] <DaSkreech> dthacker: a thermometer?
[06:29] <sfire> dthacker: yes there is a way... like lmonitor or something like that
[06:29] <sfire> but what good is it going to do for you to watch it burn up?
[06:30] <sfire> dthacker: your time would be much better spent fixing the cooling system on the laptop
[06:30] <sfire> dthacker: they commonly get full of hair and dust.. once you clean it out it'll work like new.. but you have to tear it apart a little bit
[06:30] <sfire> the full instructions are on dells website
[06:30] <dthacker> sfire:  if I can't measure it, how will I know my work is effective?
[06:30] <Schuenemann> what does proprietary format mean?
[06:31] <sfire> when it doesn't shut down ?
[06:31] <sfire> what else really matters?
[06:31] <Schuenemann> like, the format's structure is not revealed to everyone?
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Schuenemann: yes
[06:31] <Schuenemann> DaSkreech, but how can programs play mp3, for example?
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Schuenemann: that's more open than most but legally owned by a company
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Zeelot3k: Sup?
[06:32] <Schuenemann> and players have to pay for being able to play it?
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Schuenemann: that's the idea
[06:32] <Zeelot3k> the screen thing heh
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Schuenemann: they just started doing that after it became popular
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Zeelot3k: Where are you lost?
[06:33] <sfire> Schuenemann: like apple paid for MP3 ability on their iPod
[06:33] <Schuenemann> really? amarok pays a company for play mp3?
[06:34] <sfire> Schuenemann: amarok isn't using their code to play the mp3's
[06:34] <sfire> thats the loophole
[06:34] <Zeelot3k> well I don't have putty to try with so I don't know what it's doing...this was for a friend
[06:34] <sfire> just like openoffice doesn't use microsoft office code to open word files
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Zeelot3k: you type screen -x to start screen
[06:34] <Zeelot3k> he wants to send a file to an ftp server but be able to close putty
[06:34] <Schuenemann> and why is apple using that code? :p
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Zeelot3k: run the program that you want then press Ctrl+A Ctrl+D
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Then logout
[06:35] <DaSkreech>  easy
[06:35] <sfire> Schuenemann: because they wanted the "real deal"
[06:35] <Zeelot3k> alright
[06:35] <Schuenemann> that real deal is faster or something?
[06:35] <sfire> Schuenemann: no.. just bullet proof.. they didn't have to re-invent the wheel
[06:36] <Schuenemann> could they use the same code from amarok? or that would violate the license?
[06:37] <sfire> we should continue the conversation in #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:37] <sfire> don't need another mod pissed at me :p
[06:37] <Schuenemann> heh
[06:37] <Schuenemann> I'm almost going to bed
[06:37] <Zeelot3k> DaSkreech: he says that doesn't work
[06:37] <Schuenemann> thanks though
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Zeelot3k: where doesn't it work?
[06:37] <Zeelot3k> I don't know o_o
[06:38] <Zeelot3k> I guess the transfer stops when he logs out
[06:38] <sfire> Zeelot3k: that is ctrl+a then d
[06:38] <sfire> you don't press ctrl when you press d
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Zeelot3k: after he presses ctrl+A ctrl+D type screen -L (I think) to see if the screen is still running
[06:38] <sfire> its a quick ctrl + a then d alone
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Ah right :)
[06:40] <sfire> I use that all the time when I want to leave torrents running in the background
[06:41] <sfire> its also covered in the man page for it.. which is very good reading because the screen command has some neat options that I won't go into here
[06:45] <louis_> hey guys
[06:45] <louis_> i have a font issue
[06:45] <sfire> louis_: yea?
[06:46] <jussi01> louis_: tell us?
[06:46] <SillyZ> question : previiously on ubuntu I was able to tell the x-server to restart when a user logged out and back in, can the same be done in Kubuntu
[06:46] <sfire> SillyZ: I believe it does already
[06:46] <SillyZ> ubuntu had to be specifically told to do so, im assuming the same of Kubuntu
[06:46] <louis_> okay it's kind of long winded and i dont knwo if it's a "problem" per se
[06:47] <louis_> the fonts are kind of fuzzy
[06:47] <louis_> and if i turn off the antialiasing it's too rough
[06:47] <Bandit09> hell yeah guys i love kubuntu. people said running mirc on wine would be slow? hell no it seems FASTER
[06:47] <louis_> is it a resolution issue?
[06:47] <sfire> SillyZ: I don't believe so... mine restarts.. I know because thats the only way for me to change video modes
[06:47] <Bandit09> i just wonder if i can use DLL's
[06:47] <louis_> bc i remember I ran ubuntu with FGLRX a long time ago and that solved the problem.   I still learn new stuff about windows daily
[06:50] <Bandit09> who needs windows in a world without walls?
[06:50] <Bandit09> :D
[06:50] <DaSkreech> sfire: how many of them involve ways to catch a virus ?
[06:50] <Bandit09> ill answer for him: all
[06:50] <sfire> DaSkreech: very few
[06:50] <louis_> so anybody know what the font issue is?
[06:51] <Bandit09> my bad :)
[06:51] <sfire> DaSkreech: most of my finds have to do with new ways to do my job quicker
[06:51] <sfire> like today I found out about robocopy :)
[06:51] <Bandit09> thing i like about people switching to linux: everyone who does it has made a choice. tons of windows slaves never even know they have a choice
[06:52] <sfire> louis_: what exactly is the font issue ?
[06:52] <DaSkreech> louis_: tried sub pixel hinting?
[06:52] <sfire> louis_: maybe I missed it if you already said so
[06:52] <Bandit09> gonna go try to get my old script back, bbs
[06:52] <louis_> DaSkreech, how do i do that?
[06:52] <sfire> louis_: I found it.. .do you happen to have a nvidia or ATI card?
[06:53] <louis_> haha i already did say so.  hang on, i'll copy and paste, sfire
[06:53] <louis_> ATI ... i know...
[06:53] <sfire> louis_: did you install the "real" driver for it?
[06:54] <louis_> i didn't install anything.  i used the native Feisty driver
[06:54] <sfire> thats probably why
[06:54] <louis_> aiglx, right?
[06:54] <sfire> the generic nvidia driver does the same thing
[06:54] <sfire> that I don't know... I refuse to use ATI crapola... but I'm sure someone can tell you how to install it
[06:55] <louis_> oh okay. what do I need, and can i still use beryl/xgl?
[06:55] <louis_> i'll check the ubuntu-effects channel
[06:55] <louis_> thanks though
[06:55] <sfire> yep
[06:55] <Bandit09> oh yeah i love beryl
[06:55] <sfire> it should work even better
[06:55] <Bandit09> that is really awesome
[06:55] <sfire> I couldn't get beryl to work :(
[06:56] <Bandit09> only thing i just wish i could figure out how to install themes for KDE
[06:56] <louis_> DaSkreech, what is subpixel hinting?
[06:56] <Bandit09> i like the "kore" theme
[06:56] <Bandit09> i can only use it in beryl
[06:56] <DaSkreech> louis_: it's a thingy in kcontrol I think
[06:56] <louis_> and how do i configure it?
[06:57] <Schuenemann> good night
[06:57] <sfire> nite
[06:57] <ayyappan> Hi.
[06:57] <sfire> hi
[06:57] <DaSkreech> louis_: type kcmshell fonts in a console
[06:57] <Schuenemann> see you in another life, brother
[06:58] <DaSkreech> you can turn on anti-aliasing for fonts. then configure and you can try subpixel hinting
[06:58] <ayyappan> i have a problem with my kubuntu here... it wld be fine if u coould help me out
[06:58] <DaSkreech>  i think you have to logout to see the new difference
[06:58] <sfire> ayyappan: just tell us the problem.. we will try
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee hiya
[06:58] <ayyappan> my kubuntu box recently updated to the linux 2.6.20-16 kernel
[06:58] <Tm_T> theshkrieek \o
[06:58] <ayyappan> and i cld no longer boot into the new kernel
[06:59] <ayyappan> seeing my dmesg i see the boot gets locked up stating "attached generic scsi device type 0"
[06:59] <louis__> arrrrrrrrgh... modem crapped out!
[06:59] <louis__> so what's this subpixel hinting and how to i configure it?
[06:59] <DaSkreech> louis_: type kcmshell fonts in a console
[07:00] <DaSkreech> you can turn on anti-aliasing for fonts. then configure and you can try subpixel hinting
[07:00] <DaSkreech>  i think you have to logout to see the new difference
[07:00] <louis__> okay. thank you!
[07:00] <DaSkreech> louis__: ^^^
[07:00] <Hobbsee> hi DaSkreech!
[07:00] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: (:
[07:00] <ayyappan> sfire : seeing my dmesg i see the boot gets locked up stating "attached generic scsi device type 0"
[07:01] <ayyappan> sfire : i am not sure wats happening
[07:01] <louis__> DaSkreech, I don't see subpixel hinting as an option
[07:02] <ayyappan> sfire : got a solution for this or have u guys seen this prb
[07:02] <DaSkreech> louis__: when you click on configure beside anti-aliasing ?
[07:03] <louis__> it's grayed out
[07:04] <DaSkreech> click on the anti-alias checkbox
[07:04] <louis__> OH NVM!     I knwo subpixel hinting worked wonders on my screen
[07:09] <DaSkreech>  some people it makes it look like a blob
[07:09] <DaSkreech> YMMV
[07:10] <louis_> DaSkreech, looks good! thanks!
[07:10] <DaSkreech> louis_: neat
[07:18] <Blast_Hardcheese> o_O
[07:18] <Blast_Hardcheese> SillyZ: That was kinda interesting
[07:19] <Blast_Hardcheese> SillyZ: Anyway, sorry I missed the beginning of your question, You might want to try irc.moofspeak.net #OSx86
[07:19] <SillyZ> Ya it was
[07:19] <SillyZ> Got flamed for just asking about OSX on Intel Hardware, which Apple Sells and Supports to begin with
[07:19] <Blast_Hardcheese> Well,
[07:19] <SillyZ> unbelivable
[07:19] <Blast_Hardcheese> that's to be expected
[07:19] <Blast_Hardcheese> Actually it is,
[07:20] <Blast_Hardcheese> Considering it's illegal to run MacOSx on anything other than apple hardware
[07:20] <louis_> SillyZ, let me guess... apple guys flamed you?
[07:20] <SillyZ> I was just looking for answers to questions, thats it.... didnt ask where to download it, etc, etc, etc
[07:20] <DaSkreech> MMMM roasted apples
[07:20] <louis_> Blast_Hardcheese, no $hit?
[07:20] <Blast_Hardcheese> louis_: yep
[07:20] <SillyZ> and then next thing I know Flame.Suit++
[07:20] <Blast_Hardcheese> SillyZ: What questions did you have?
[07:20] <louis_> that's rediculous!
[07:20] <Blast_Hardcheese> I might be able to help you
[07:21] <SillyZ> Asked about it not running  on both cores on an intel core duo
[07:21] <DaSkreech> louis_: red apples?
[07:21] <SillyZ> and thats about as far as it got
[07:21] <SillyZ> just been doing some reading, and considering osx, but screw that nwo
[07:21] <SillyZ> now
[07:21] <louis_> DaSkreech, i'm not following you
[07:21] <DaSkreech> rediculous
[07:21] <louis_> oh. haha
[07:21] <louis_> oops!
[07:22] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:22] <Blast_Hardcheese> SillyZ: Please don't judge the OSx86 community by the majority of people in #macosx.
[07:22] <Blast_Hardcheese> we're much more interesting ;)
[07:22] <SillyZ> considering apple stole 99.9999% of its code from the linux community to begin with... and they get uppity about it
[07:22] <DaSkreech> SillyZ: they didn't
[07:22] <Blast_Hardcheese> Ah well.
[07:22] <SillyZ> anywho
[07:22] <SillyZ> flame.off
[07:22] <DaSkreech> BSDmaybe
[07:22] <Blast_Hardcheese> if that's your mentality then maybe I can't help you
[07:22] <SillyZ> thanks blast
[07:22] <louis_> considering apple users shit snobbism and pseudo-intellectuality
[07:22] <Blast_Hardcheese> DaSkreech: BSD... maybe like 50%+
[07:23] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[07:23] <louis_> lol well most of them in any case
[07:23] <DaSkreech> Linux no they took KHTML and they gave back
[07:23] <louis_> i can seriously pick a mac user out of a crowd
[07:23] <Blast_Hardcheese> louis_: Of course
[07:23] <Blast_Hardcheese> I'll be the one with the apple hat ;)
[07:23] <DaSkreech> louis_: and *nix people don't?
[07:23] <louis_> Point taken...
[07:23] <DaSkreech> Course apple is now *nix ...
[07:23] <louis_> at least we don't feel good about paying for overpriced bull
[07:24] <DaSkreech> ha ha
[07:24] <DaSkreech> in any case
[07:24] <DaSkreech> !O-T
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about o-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <DaSkreech> !OT
[07:24] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:24] <Blast_Hardcheese> louis_: it's not like I buy apple desktops.
[07:24] <Blast_Hardcheese> laptops... yes.
[07:24] <Blast_Hardcheese> Desktops, I'll make myself.
[07:24] <louis_> haha I don't mean to pick on you, blast
[07:24] <sfire> lets continue it in #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:24] <Blast_Hardcheese> good idea
[07:24] <louis_> see you guys there
[07:24] <Blast_Hardcheese> louis_: 's OK
[07:30] <jarn> How does Xnest work?
[07:31] <DaSkreech> Under pressure
[07:31] <hendaus> somebody help please!
[07:32] <DaSkreech> !somebody
[07:32] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:33] <jarn> DaSkreech: Xnest works under pressure? :P
[07:33] <DaSkreech> !ask | hendaus
[07:33] <ubotu> hendaus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:33] <DaSkreech> jarn: it makes a self contained X view I think
[07:33] <jarn> DaSkreech: Yeah, but I want to know how to use it. :(
[07:34] <DaSkreech> Oh
[07:34] <DaSkreech> Umm
[07:34] <DaSkreech> I used to just run Xnest and play with it
[07:34] <jarn> DaSkreech: I can't even figure out how to run it.
[07:35] <DaSkreech> jarn: is it installed?
[07:35] <jarn> DaSkreech: Yes.
[07:35] <jarn> DaSkreech: Oh, there we go...
[07:35] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:36] <jarn> DaSkreech: The man page says to do "Xnest -display <display>" but that doesn't work, you have to do "Xnest <display>"
[07:36] <waltercool> hi there... i have a problem
[07:36] <waltercool> kubuntu installation isnt writting in grub :S
[07:36] <DaSkreech> waltercool: we may have answers
[07:36] <waltercool> xD
[07:36] <DaSkreech> waltercool: you don't get an option to boot into linux ?
[07:36] <jarn> DaSkreech: Do you know how to do something with it? All that happens when I run it is a gray window. If I could get to a command line...
[07:36] <waltercool> i pass directly to grub console :S
[07:37] <DaSkreech> jarn: wouldn't be a xnest then ...
[07:37] <DaSkreech> waltercool: ahhh
[07:37] <DaSkreech> !grub
[07:37] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:37] <waltercool> ...
[07:37] <waltercool> i dont have windows
[07:38] <waltercool> after kubuntu installation
[07:38] <DaSkreech> waltercool: no the second link
[07:39] <waltercool> DaSkreech: But why dont create me a default conf?
[07:39] <waltercool> i have grub...
[07:39] <jarn> DaSkreech: What do you mean? It is Xnest.
[07:39] <DaSkreech> waltercool: not sure. I'd need a history of what you did
[07:39] <waltercool> DaSkreech: install kubuntu
[07:40] <Bandit09> tite as hell i love wine
[07:40] <waltercool> DaSkreech: but installation dont create me a grub.conf
[07:40] <DaSkreech> waltercool: Hmm that's odd
[07:40] <waltercool> -.-
[07:41] <DaSkreech> waltercool: did you install with a live cd or an alternate?
[07:41] <waltercool> cd
[07:41] <DaSkreech> Oh duh
[07:41] <waltercool> feisty
[07:41] <DaSkreech> desktop you logged in as ubuntu
[07:41] <waltercool> kubuntu
[07:41] <DaSkreech> can you mount your hard drive?
[07:41] <waltercool> yes
[07:41] <waltercool> but idk all parameters of a grub.conf
[07:41] <waltercool> and a specific kubuntu
[07:42] <DaSkreech> waltercool: shouldn't need one I just need you to check that a kernel is there
[07:42] <DaSkreech> in /boot
[07:42] <waltercool> yes
[07:42] <waltercool> exist
[07:42] <waltercool> vmlinuz...
[07:43] <DaSkreech> ok
[07:43] <DaSkreech> try a grub-install
[07:43] <waltercool> but in livecd :S
[07:43] <waltercool> that can be assassin
[07:44] <DaSkreech> waltercool: follow the steps in the first link
[07:45] <waltercool> ok...
[07:46] <DaSkreech> waltercool: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf3232f10ddf1b078de064622ccbb25225cdb3c0
[07:46] <DaSkreech> that section
[07:46] <DaSkreech> waltercool: as I understand it Kubuntu is the only thing on the computer?
[07:46] <sfire> oh man... someone needed that earlier
[07:46] <sfire> the only way I could tell them to fix it was a re-install :(
[07:48] <waltercool> DaSkreech: ah?
[07:48] <waltercool> DaSkreech: yes... for now
[07:48] <DaSkreech> waltercool: what other operating systems are there ... ah ok
[07:48] <waltercool> DaSkreech: I want have Sabayon and kubuntu
[07:49] <oldwest> where can you find which version linux you're running fiesty etc?
[07:49] <oldwest> run a konsole command?
[07:49] <waltercool> ii will try... DaSkreech
[07:49] <waltercool> thanks...
[07:49] <DaSkreech> oldwest: lsb_release -a
[07:50] <oldwest> daskreech - thx so much - couldn't remember
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Sure
[07:51] <sfire> DaSkreech is just hot tonight :p
[07:53] <oldwest> yea - looks like i'm running ubuntu 6.10 edgy - thx again
[07:53] <oldwest> need get the new fiesty - u like it?
[07:53] <jarn> When I try to run a game in Xnest I get this error: http://pastebin.ca/560727
[07:54] <DaSkreech> oldwest: Yeah. though if you like edgy stick with it a while
[07:55] <oldwest> yea its ok - but have another drive - i want to use the bleeding edge stuff - adventuresome  :o)
[07:57] <DaSkreech> gutsy :)
[08:03] <sivaji> !grub
[08:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:06] <waltercool> hey... works xD in part
[08:07] <DaSkreech> waltercool: how well?
[08:07] <waltercool> The problem wasn't grub xDDD
[08:07] <waltercool> was the boot disk xD
[08:08] <DaSkreech> :-)
[08:08] <waltercool> DaSkreech: Kubuntu have a lot of games xDDD?
[08:08] <waltercool> like another distros?
[08:08] <DaSkreech> !games
[08:08] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[08:09] <waltercool> mmm
[08:09] <waltercool> !thanks
[08:09] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[08:09] <DaSkreech> waltercool: press alt+space -> type adept -> press enter
[08:09] <RawSewage> can you burn the CD image of Kubuntu to a DVD. if so, how
[08:09] <waltercool> what is katapult?
[08:09] <RawSewage> !katapult
[08:10] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[08:10] <waltercool> !ic
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <DaSkreech> waltercool: alt+space -> adept -> enter and tell me when it's open
[08:12] <waltercool> yeah... ic... thanks ;)
[08:12] <DaSkreech> waltercool: it's open?
[08:13] <waltercool> DaSkreech: yes... im updating now :) xD
[08:14] <waltercool> DaSkreech: thanks
[08:14] <DaSkreech> waltercool: under the adept menu go to manage repositores
[08:14] <sfire> DaSkreech: that alt+space is totally awesome... another cool trick :)
[08:15] <jarn> When I create an Xnest it is using Mesa and, hence, no direct rendering is present - is there any way to fix this?
[08:15] <waltercool> DaSkreech: Mmm... ic, is too dangerous cancel a update?
[08:15] <DaSkreech> sfire: alt+space -> spell<space>fire -> giggle like a girl
[08:15] <DaSkreech> waltercool: oh no poke me when the update is done :)
[08:16] <waltercool> ok ;)
[08:16] <waltercool> DaSkreech: Another thing... how can i enable root?
[08:16] <waltercool> without sudo su?
[08:16] <DaSkreech> !root
[08:16] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:16] <DaSkreech> waltercool: you can just sudo anything that you need to do though
[08:16] <DaSkreech> and it stops you being root all the time
[08:17] <waltercool> DaSkreech: I dont want get all in home folder xD
[08:17] <DaSkreech> waltercool: all?
[08:17] <waltercool> DaSkreech: Apps are installed in home folder with sudo su, right?
[08:18] <DaSkreech> waltercool: umm
[08:18] <DaSkreech> waltercool: not really
[08:18] <waltercool> or only conf. files?
[08:18] <DaSkreech> only .conf files
[08:18] <waltercool> and .folders  xD
[08:19] <waltercool> DaSkreech: A last question xD... how can i resize a additional panel?
[08:19] <waltercool> !panel
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <waltercool> cool
[08:19] <DaSkreech> waltercool: i don't see why not right click and configure it
[08:20] <waltercool> but only configure me the principal panel
[08:32] <intelikey> question how do you get konqueror to sage the pictures in a web page ?
[08:32] <DaSkreech> intelikey: poke
[08:32] <intelikey> save
[08:32] <intelikey> DaSkreech ?     poke ?
[08:32] <DaSkreech> intelikey: can you view images from the CLI?
[08:33] <intelikey> yeah.  that's not the point.
[08:33] <intelikey> how can i get konq to save the images with the page ?
[08:34] <intelikey> or will i have to use something more powerful... like wget ?
[08:34] <waltercool> DaSkreech: Kde can work without gnome libs?
[08:34] <DaSkreech> waltercool: very well
[08:35] <waltercool> DaSkreech: And why comes with a lot of gnome libs installed?
[08:35] <DaSkreech> intelikey: tools -> archive web page
[08:35] <DaSkreech> waltercool: it comes with none as far as I know
[08:35] <RawSewage> that doesnt always work
[08:35] <waltercool> gconf...?
[08:36] <RawSewage> ARchive web page doesnt seem to like css or something
[08:37] <sivaji> i have kubuntu and xp on my pc , i am going to reinstall xp will it affect linux (grub loader ) i have grub loader in a separate partitons
[08:37] <intelikey> well thanks   it worked for what i wanted it for.
[08:38] <waltercool> yes
[08:38] <waltercool> sivaji:
[08:38] <waltercool> !grub xD
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grub xd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <waltercool> !grub
[08:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:38] <DaSkreech> waltercool: well done padawan
[08:38] <DaSkreech> have a cookie
[08:38] <waltercool> hahahah xD Lol
[08:38] <DaSkreech> !botsnack
[08:38] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[08:38] <DaSkreech> ha ha
[08:39] <sivaji> waltercool http://sgd.howto-linux.de/download/binaries/sgd_plus_distros/sgd_gparted_system_rescue_001.iso ple take look at this if have this in a cd can i recover kubuntu
[08:39] <solid_liq> anyone know why, when I try to print in feisty, cups gives me the error: request entity too large?
[08:39] <waltercool> OMG... adepts is uninstalling me kde xO
[08:41] <sivaji> waltercool :
[08:42] <waltercool> sivaji: yes?
[08:42] <waltercool> o... sorry
[08:42] <waltercool> but u dont have livecd?
[08:43] <sivaji> waltercool  : .docx  is a extension of openoffice or msoffice
[08:43] <sivaji> !.docx
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about docx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:43] <waltercool> i cant see now xD... i havent konqueror
[08:45] <DaSkreech> sivaji: do you have a kubuntu cd ?
[08:45] <sivaji> no
[08:45] <sivaji> DaSkreech no
[08:46] <sivaji> DaSkreech y u r asking this
[08:46] <DaSkreech> sivaji: do you have any live cds ?
[08:46] <DaSkreech> sivaji: you are trying to recover Linux after installing Windows?
[08:46] <sivaji> DaSkreech no i can get it from my friends
[08:46] <DaSkreech> !grub | sivaji
[08:46] <ubotu> sivaji: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:46] <DaSkreech> sivaji: read the first link
[08:47] <sivaji> DaSkreech ya i saw that but my probelms is ram
[08:47] <DaSkreech> sivaji: how much ram do you have ?
[08:47] <waltercool> DaSkreech: Exist a package with kubuntu default?? xD
[08:47] <sivaji> my system rarely runs kubuntu from livecd
[08:47] <sivaji> 256mc
[08:47] <DaSkreech> waltercool: kubuntu-desktop
[08:47] <sivaji> 256md
[08:47] <waltercool> cool xD
[08:47] <sivaji> DaSkreech 256mb
[08:47] <DaSkreech> sivaji: there should be a section on that page on how to fix it from the alternate CD
[08:48] <DaSkreech> you need almost no ram for that
[08:48] <sivaji> DaSkreech  my system rarely runs kubuntu from livecd  i struggled a lot to install kubuntu
[08:49] <sivaji> from livecd
[08:49] <DaSkreech> sivaji: use the alternate cd
[08:49] <DaSkreech> it's not a live CD you should have no problems
[08:49] <sivaji> DaSkreech ok
[08:49] <DaSkreech> sivaji: or if you like you can kill X on the LIve Cd and it shoudl be much better
[08:49] <intelikey> sivaji 256m ram is no reason for a live cd to fail.
[08:49] <DaSkreech> intelikey: but it's not impossible
[08:49] <sivaji> intelikey then what else
[08:50] <intelikey> DaSkreech highly unlikely.
[08:51] <kravenz> Hi Leute
[08:51] <sivaji> intelikey i tried to install 32bit os in 64bit pc i think may be because of that right ..
[08:53] <intelikey> no.
[08:53] <sivaji> DaSkreech u said some thing about alternate CD what is that i dont find there
[08:53] <kraut> moin
[08:54] <sivaji> intelikey .docx is a extension for open office file or msoffice file
[08:54] <DaSkreech> msoffice
[08:55] <sivaji> DaSkreech cant we open .docx in openoffice easily like other files
[08:56] <DaSkreech> sivaji: depends on which version and no it's not assured
[08:56] <intelikey> M$
[08:56] <sivaji> DaSkreech ok
[08:56] <DaSkreech> The .docx spec is very vague and does many things that can only be interpreted "correctly" by microsoft
[08:56] <DaSkreech> But there is a good chance that the newere versions of OO.o will handle it well
[08:57] <DaSkreech> intelikey: can you boot the desktop cd headless?
[08:57] <sivaji> DaSkreech intelikey http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/
[08:58] <sivaji> !alien
[08:58] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:00] <intelikey> sivaji URL is for what cause ?   you asked me "<sivaji> intelikey .docx is a extension for open office file or msoffice file" to which i answered "<intelikey> M$"   so what's the URL for ?
[09:01] <DaSkreech> sivaji: nice
[09:01] <DaSkreech> intelikey: he asked if he could open it in openoffice
[09:01] <DaSkreech> intelikey: did you answer my query ?
[09:01] <intelikey> DaSkreech yes it can boot.  may hang a process "startx" to be exact. but the system should boot.
[09:02] <DaSkreech> intelikey: oh right. not that one the how do you view images on the CLI
[09:02] <intelikey> svgalibs   and viewimage  or links2 -g
[09:03] <intelikey> can do it with other means   fbcon  for example
[09:04] <intelikey> well i'm out.
[09:07] <anthony_> Hi, how do I install ati drivers on kubuntu?
[09:07] <emonkey-f> !fglrx
[09:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:09] <sysman> ooo
[09:11] <darwin81> If I install Kubuntu can I move my Firefox history and bookmarks to Konquerer?
[09:11] <TyphoidHippo> Hey, namol - are you actually in here?
[09:12] <anthony_> 10x
[09:14] <sivaji> !bean
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bean - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <darwin81> If I install Kubuntu can I move my Firefox history and bookmarks to Konquerer?
[09:14] <sivaji> darwin81 nice question
[09:14] <DaSkreech> darwin81: Maybe :)
[09:15] <nko> hi
[09:15] <nko> i ahve a general "ubuntu" question...
[09:15] <DaSkreech> Shoot
[09:15] <sivaji> darwin81 find the dir where u r history and book marks are stored
[09:15] <nko> how can i add a new service at boot?
[09:15] <sivaji> !ask | nko
[09:15] <ubotu> nko: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:16] <DaSkreech> darwin81: you know you can still use firefox right ?
[09:16] <darwin81> yea
[09:16] <DaSkreech> nko: there is a service manager in System settings -> advanced
[09:17] <nko> is for a 6.10 server without serverX...
[09:18] <darwin81> But I like native apps better
[09:18] <DaSkreech> darwin81: I don't know of a way to import the history
[09:18] <SniZ> hi, can i install kubuntu via netboot?
[09:18] <DaSkreech> darwin81: there is probably a tool though
[09:18] <etnt> when I unplug the power to my laptop, the screen dampens, anyone knows if that can be fixed ?
[09:18] <nko> i must add a command at the boot of the system...not at my login
[09:20] <SniZ> hey
[09:20] <SniZ> somebody help me?
[09:20] <sivaji> nko /etc/init.d i think u need to add here
[09:20] <DaSkreech> !netboot
[09:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:21] <DaSkreech> etnt: some new laptops do that in hardware but you can check power config
[09:21] <DaSkreech> !power
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <eagles0513875> i think i have found the best 64bit os
[09:21] <eagles0513875> lo,
[09:21] <eagles0513875> l
[09:22] <Jucato> !netinstall
[09:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:22] <Jucato> ah patience is the keyword for today
[09:23] <sivaji> Jucato : hi dude my system never detect dvd disk
[09:23] <eagles0513875> Jucato: u trying to boot from a network to a machine that doesnt have a hard drive
[09:24] <sivaji> Jucato but it works fine in windows
[09:24] <Jucato> eagles0513875: no. I was trying to answer SniZ's question. but he/she/it left just as I triggered the bot
[09:24] <sivaji> i installed many plugins to support dvd
[09:24] <eagles0513875> lol
[09:24] <mardi> hi all, there was an update yesterday (day before?) to a new kernel. Today kubuntu feisty is hanging at shut down. upon reset i get "stuff wasn't unmounted cleanly". Then a whole heap of inode and block issues. is this related to the new kernel?
[09:24] <sivaji> still it doesnt works
[09:25] <eagles0513875> that is the same for me it hangs on shutdown
[09:25] <Jucato> sivaji: um.. sorry, no idea..
[09:25] <sivaji> Jucato ok
[09:25] <eagles0513875> how does one envoke a drive check
[09:26] <Young_Druid> hi, has anybody installed vpn connection with static ip?
[09:26] <eagles0513875> mardi: i think u have to run fsck
[09:26] <eagles0513875> but its best done during start up
[09:26] <eagles0513875> anyone know how i can invoke fsck to run at start up after rebooting my machine
[09:27] <mardi> eagles0513875: i'm getting i_node and block erros during boot fsck
[09:27] <eagles0513875> ur running the 32bit version
[09:29] <mardi> eagles0513875: yes, with a sata HDD
[09:29] <eagles0513875> interesting
[09:29] <eagles0513875> im not getting those errors and im on the 64bit version
[09:29] <eagles0513875> only just the hanging at shutdown
[09:29] <eagles0513875> how old is hte hadd
[09:29] <eagles0513875> *hdd
[09:29] <mardi> old...
[09:29] <eagles0513875> bout how many yrs
[09:29] <mardi> probably more than 3 or 4
[09:29] <eagles0513875> i hate to break it to ya
[09:29] <eagles0513875> but ur drive could be goign bad if ur getting those block errors on startup
[09:30] <sivaji> i got combo drive which can read and write cd but it cant read (detect ) dvd disk ,but the same dvd disk and drive works fine in xp
[09:30] <eagles0513875> regardless of thsoe block errors can u at least get to the desktop
[09:30] <DaSkreech> !fsc
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <DaSkreech> !fsck
[09:30] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[09:31] <sivaji>  i got combo drive which can read and write cd but it cant read (detect ) dvd disk ,but the same dvd disk and drive works fine in xp
[09:31] <eagles0513875> DaSkreech: mardi has tried that but still during boot up he is getting those block errors
[09:31] <mardi> eagles0513875: yeh, we can get to the desktop, and we've "fixed" the inode using fsck in puppy linux, and the next boot goes well.. until it's rebooted, then the cycle repeats: hangs, restet, then b0rk
[09:32] <eagles0513875> honestly i would backup any data and replace the drive
[09:32] <mardi> eagles0513875: wanna buy me a new one? :p
[09:32] <eagles0513875> lol
[09:32] <eagles0513875> i dont have any money or job :\
[09:32] <mardi> me either!
[09:32] <mardi> oi
[09:33] <mattsqz> me either
[09:33] <eagles0513875> u running a duel boot by any chance
[09:33] <mattsqz> till july
[09:33] <mardi> eagles0513875: yes, triboot with MS and pc-bsd, all on the same 200gig HDD
[09:33] <eagles0513875> u dont have windows on there lol
[09:33] <eagles0513875> lol forget winblows
[09:34] <eagles0513875> on pcbsd which im assuming is linux do u get the same errors
[09:35] <mardi> have yet to try pcbsd. it's based off bsd, which isn't linux
[09:35] <mattsqz> what about darwin
[09:36] <mattsqz> apple's bsd that osx sits on top of
[09:36] <jbruckman> >.< i'm so frustrated with feisty right now. First my wireless doesn't work. I fix that. The Nvidia doesn't work, I try fixing that and break everything, 1000 times over. Finally I get back to where I think everything is at least ok, and I'm having problems with firefox, and a few other programs.
[09:37] <jbruckman> i'm 90% sure once it's not 2:30 in the morning, I'm downgrading back to edgy
[09:37] <mattsqz> feisty is working wonderfully for me
[09:37] <jbruckman> congratz, it's been nothing but a bi*** to me.
[09:37] <mattsqz> nvidia, firefox, beryl..
[09:37] <mattsqz> wireless workin fine too
[09:37] <crimsun> I really have no idea why people insist on upgrading if things are working
[09:37] <mattsqz> now that i got the issues with the wired sorted out, that is
[09:38] <crimsun> the adage "don't fix what's not broken" is an adage for a reason...
[09:38] <jbruckman> crimsun, i honestly don't know why i bothered.
[09:38] <crimsun> we clearly support each desktop release for at least 18 months
[09:38] <mattsqz> the idea that an upgrade is meant to fix something is an idea that came from microsoft
[09:38] <TyphoidHippo> Does anybody know if it's possible to make Synergy server run on an actual server (that doesn't run X)?
[09:38] <crimsun> it's not like things are going to go batcrack insane if you don't run the most current stable release
[09:38] <Jucato> crimsun: um... because 1) they might need/want something from an updated version, 2) they don't really expect that what was working would not be working after an upgrade... you'd be expecting the opposite, right?
[09:38] <mattsqz> it should not have been released if there is stuff to fix, upgrades add new features
[09:39] <jbruckman> i expect people to NOT break things.
[09:39] <crimsun> Jucato: feature creep is dangerous.  Drooling over new features is even more dangerous.
[09:39] <jbruckman> but then of course, in an open community especially, you just have to realize it's going to happen.
[09:39] <Jucato> crimsun: that doesn't really answer the expectation that upgrades should not break stuff...
[09:39] <eagles0513875> i have nto encountered many bugs in the 64 bit version of feisty
[09:39] <sivaji>  i got combo drive which can read and write cd but it cant read (detect ) dvd disk ,but the same dvd disk and drive works fine in xp
[09:40] <mardi> thanks for the help.
[09:40] <crimsun> Jucato: that's because there is no guarantee that upgrades will not hose something
[09:40] <eagles0513875> no problem mardi that is what we r here for
[09:40] <Jucato> it's far more dangerous to accept that "upgrades *will* break working stuff" is the norm, though...
[09:40] <eagles0513875> seems like more development has gone into the 64bit version unless im wrong
[09:40] <crimsun> Jucato: there is no SLA saying it or its opposite.
[09:40] <eagles0513875> u got to break somethign to fix it lol
[09:40] <Jucato> SLA?
[09:41] <crimsun> acronymfinder :)
[09:41] <Jucato> fine fine... :/
[09:41] <jbruckman> lol, sorry to start an argument gents. I was just venting.
[09:41] <jbruckman> :-p
[09:41] <eagles0513875> lol
[09:41] <DaSkreech> Gnight
[09:41] <eagles0513875> night DaSkreech
[09:41] <Jucato> software license agreement?
[09:42] <eagles0513875> has anyone else use the 64 bit version of feisty
[09:42] <tazz> Hey, whats up with shipit only allowing just 3 cds insted of the normal 10?
[09:42] <crimsun> Jucato: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_Level_Agreement
[09:43] <DaSkreech> Jucato: http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/
[09:44] <jbruckman> guys i'm stumped and need some help
[09:44] <TyphoidHippo> What's the command that you can run that will output in your terminal the details of anything you plug into your USB port?  I think I just overcomplicated my question...
[09:44] <jbruckman> i keep getting this error when file browsing...
[09:44] <jbruckman> "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Read-only file system."
[09:44] <Jucato> crimsun: I'm talking about a seemingly prevalent mentality, not any formal guarantee set in writing. While I do know that upgrades *can* break things at times, there seems to be a pattern of using that as an excuse whenever something breaks in an upgrade...
[09:44] <jbruckman> how do i fix it?
[09:45] <crimsun> Jucato: it's not an excuse, it's a syndrome
[09:45] <Jucato> TyphoidHippo: dmesg
[09:45] <crimsun> Jucato: we obviously don't handle downgrades, which are also upgrades of a different nature
[09:46] <jbruckman> anyone?
[09:46] <jbruckman> i don't really want to do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a again, just to try to fix this...
[09:46] <dwidmann> eagles0513875: I do
[09:46] <TyphoidHippo> ahh
[09:46] <TyphoidHippo> thanks Jucato
[09:46] <eagles0513875> dw u regestered
[09:47] <eagles0513875> jbruckman: u trying to access a ntfs partition
[09:47] <dwidmann> where?
[09:47] <eagles0513875> on here
[09:47] <eagles0513875> !register
[09:47] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:47] <Jucato> well anyway, I'm in no position to talk about upgrades, since I don't have the technical knowledge sufficient to make an unbiased statement...
[09:47] <jbruckman> eagles0513875: no. i'm trying to access my ext3 partition.
[09:47] <Jucato> hi Admiral_Chicago
[09:47] <eagles0513875> jbruckman: u try fsck
[09:47] <eagles0513875> !register | dwidmann
[09:47] <ubotu> dwidmann: please see above
[09:47] <TyphoidHippo> No, wait that's not it Jucato - I'll google it though, since I don't know how to word what I want to do very well.
[09:47] <dwidmann> ah, that, yes
[09:47] <eagles0513875> its free to register
[09:47] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i tried to build KDE4 from SVN...no go...
[09:48] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: hm...
[09:48] <jbruckman> eagles0513875: trying now.
[09:48] <eagles0513875> ok
[09:48] <jbruckman> it's clean
[09:48] <eagles0513875> run it at reboot
[09:48] <Admiral_Chicago> cmake was not happy building kdelibs...oh well i'll try it in a bit
[09:48] <Jucato> TyphoidHippo: what else are you looking for?
[09:48] <Admiral_Chicago> jbruckman: what are you trying to fix exactly?
[09:48] <jbruckman> the above error mesg.
[09:48] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: if you eve need help, #kde4-devel would be a nice place to ask. but if you could remember the errors that you got, maybe I could try and guess? :D
[09:49] <jbruckman> "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Read-only file system."
[09:49] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: also, I guess you're following the instructions from techbase?
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: yes. techbase. i'm in that channel...
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll pastebin my last lof.
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> log*
[09:50] <Admiral_Chicago> jbruckman: you get this on boot?
[09:50] <jbruckman> i get this when i try to browse my '/' folder.
[09:50] <jbruckman> or any other folder under it
[09:50] <jbruckman> and i can't even look at the other disks.
[09:51] <sivaji> how to mount dvd driver manually
[09:51] <Admiral_Chicago> did you try a live CD and chown
[09:51] <eagles0513875> dwidmann: did u get my pm
[09:51] <Admiral_Chicago> wait...no thats not the command..
[09:51] <dwidmann> yes
[09:51] <jbruckman> :|
[09:51] <jbruckman> chmod.
[09:51] <Admiral_Chicago> change permissions. yes that one
[09:51] <TyphoidHippo> I found it, Jucato.  It was tail
[09:51] <Admiral_Chicago> jbruckman: this is what happens when you take back the Unix book you were letting me read
[09:52] <jbruckman> *insert swear words here* i should have to.
[09:52] <TyphoidHippo> sudo tail -fn0 /var/log/messages  was the whole command
[09:52] <jbruckman> Admiral_Chicago: GAH. i want to kill something right now.
[09:52] <jbruckman> Admiral_Chicago: lol
[09:52] <TyphoidHippo> It prints out the details of what you plug in in real time
[09:52] <jbruckman> Admiral_Chicago: glad i did, otherwise you might of left it at school. :-p
[09:52] <Jucato> TyphoidHippo: actually, yes and no. tail only outputs the last part of a file.
[09:53] <TyphoidHippo> hmmm...
[09:53] <Jucato> TyphoidHippo: the important stuff there is which log file you are trying to output
[09:53] <TyphoidHippo> oh
[09:53] <TyphoidHippo> I get it
[09:53] <Admiral_Chicago> hehe.
[09:53] <jbruckman> sigh.
[09:53] <TyphoidHippo> it prints out the end of the log file in real time, as the log is updated
[09:53] <TyphoidHippo> that's pretty cool
[09:55] <TyphoidHippo> Alright, well I totally saw this coming - but running synergy server on a server that doesn't run x doesn't work....
[09:56] <cewanf> Morning, has anyone here tried kcpuload on a dual core processor?
[09:57] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: error log: http://pastebin.ca/560911 retrieve it from /home/kde-devel/kde/build/KDE/kdelibs/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log
[09:57] <jbruckman> going to reboot. see if it fixes some things...