[16:43] <TJ-> It has the latest firmware; and the NIC works fine on Windows dual-boot (although we don't know if the Windows driver is using 802.11n or not - often it is disabled because of issues like this without the user being aware).
[16:43] <TJ-> rpm_45: Install that Power Management script I pastebin-ed for you, then try a suspend/resume cycle
[16:45] <rpm_45> TJ sorry kiddie-pool question, how exactly do i install it?
[16:46] <TJ-> rpm_45: copy the content of the pasetbin into a file, as per the instructions in the comments
[16:47] <Nick-19782> hi
[16:47] <rpm_45> whats the command to make a new file in a protected location?
[16:47] <greenbigfrog> What RSS readers are their that work under ubuntu 15.04 that are similar to feedindicator and yarssr? (both of them don't work)
[16:49] <badbodh> rpm_45: if it is a text file, you just open your editor with sudo/gksudo and save there
[16:50] <badbodh> sudo for command line editors only
[16:51] <badbodh> greenbigfrog: dunno about "similar to blah blah" part, but there is 'liferea' for gtk DE-s, akregator for kde
[16:52] <badbodh> just search rss feed etc in software center
[16:52] <greenbigfrog> ty
[16:53] <rpm_45> TJ ok carried out the instructions in your pastebin, thanks
[16:59] <rpm_45> TJ should I be able to suspend/resume now? is trying that out the next step?
[17:08] <DebrisRat> hi ! :)
[17:08] <EriC^^> hi
[17:08] <drobban> Guest19858: I realy hope you arent online with your root account :)
[17:09] <rpm_33> hello. unfortunately back on ethernet. suspend/resume didn't go to plan TJ
[17:15] <rpm_33> ioria are you there?
[17:15] <rpm_33> what was the command you told me from which you managed to discern that my WIFI was dropping out due to interference?
[17:17] <rpm_33> ioria sorry found it - "cat /var/log/syslog | grep DISCONNECTED"
[17:22] <akashdeepsingh> ubuntu-mate_, did you do it?
[17:24] <linocisco> how to convert epub to pdf perfectly?
[17:24] <bazhang> !info calibre
[17:25] <bazhang> no perfectly linocisco theres no such thing
[17:25] <bazhang> use calibre to convert linocisco
[17:25] <linocisco> calibre? installed by default?
[17:25] <bazhang> no
[17:30] <linocisco> what is the best torrent software to search for ebooks?
[17:30] <bazhang> linocisco, thats not what torrent sw does
[17:31] <linocisco> ok. what torrent software is good to use?
[17:31] <bazhang> linocisco, contact amazon or others for ebooks
[17:31] <baizon> linocisco: i personally recommend qbittorrent
[17:31] <bazhang> linocisco, try several and decide there is no ONE best
[17:31] <bazhang> !torrent
[17:32] <linocisco> baizon, bazhang 10Q
[17:34] <Dro__> how to run webcam cheese without led?
[17:39] <baqir> hi
[17:46] <bodhi> there is the channel #ubuntu-bugs-announce. Is there a channel where solved bugs are announced, similar to the debian channel #debian-devel-changes on OFTC?
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> Dro__  is this useful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10540246
[17:46] <bodhi> !P2P
[17:53] <Guest19858> hi, whatis Level 3 Comunications, Inc.
[17:53] <daftykins> Guest19858: an internet backbone co, and offtopic
[17:54] <Guest19858> ok thanks
[17:56] <boze> teach a guy to fish. I see a few forum posts that say to install sni-qt:i386 so a missing indicator will show up. I think the i386 would be 32bit. Is there a sni-qt:x86_64? I see on packages.ubuntu.com there's an amd64 architecture. How do you research the right package you need?
[17:58] <badbodh> boze: some apps need 32 bit packages to run, even if you use 64 bit os
[17:58] <badbodh> for example skype, teamviewer
[17:59] <badbodh> if sni-qt:i386 is a dependency, you have to install it. you can't replace it with "something similar"
[17:59] <boze> badbodh, there's the question I'm looking for. How do you list dependencies for a program?
[18:00] <badbodh> there are "or" dependencies, but not relevant to current discussion
[18:00] <boze> apt-get would usually resolve the dependencies right? but skype I installed through a .deb file
[18:01] <badbodh> boze: in terminal run "man apt-cache" to see various commands to find stuff. like "apt-cache search <name>" will search (duh) , "apt-cache show <package name>" shows details
[18:01] <akik> boze: apt-cache depends package
[18:01] <badbodh> details contain dependencies, conflicts, recommends etc
[18:02] <ships> hi all
[18:03] <boze> akik, badbodh, tyvm. I didn't know about apt-cache
[18:03] <ships> i even instal tor on my ubuntu
[18:03] <ships> and i want to use it on vbox
[18:03] <badbodh> boze: for skype .deb , open it in gdebi and check. if any missing dependencies, it will be installed. that's assuming that dependency is available in repositories
[18:03] <ships> sorry i speak english litlle
[18:03] <badbodh> else it will show a red error message
[18:04] <ubuntu-mate> I am continuing my quest to install ubuntu-mate 15.04 as a dual boot with Win7Pro. I was told to try it from a usb install, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. I still get the ???? error pop-up after continuing past the disk and internet checked screen. Any ideas?
[18:04] <badbodh> ships: if you want tor in vbox, install it in vbox
[18:04] <Guest19858> for go I to the server irc.ubuntu.com, so is necessary?Is necessary more server what irc.ubuntu.com?
[18:05] <akik> :)
[18:05] <redangek> ships: what
[18:05] <Ntemis> can anyone help me install vdpau  support for amd on 14.04.3
[18:06] <badbodh> !ops - redangek pming n-word to folks.
[18:06] <ubuntu-mate> I have used it in VBox for years, but a Vbox install will not get me the Windows 10 upgrade. The system claims that my video is not good because of the Vbox driver.  You prick
[18:11] <badbodh> Ntemis: ops are fishing in lava lake for fried trouts
[18:11] <redangek> thecyclone: sure someone can
[18:12] <thecyclone> redangek, rude!
[18:12] <gsaul> this is getting a little rough...
[18:12] <badbodh> ubuntu-mate: start from beginning of time. what do you have on your hard drive at present, what have you tried so far. if any error mssges you have encountered. etc
[18:13] <thecyclone> hey ubuntu-mate, you back again!
[18:14] <thecyclone> is it working?
[18:14] <badbodh> phunyguy: tonyyarusso bazhang ikonia anybody home? redangek is shaking things up a bit here
[18:14] <redangek> gsaul: rough.  I told him to use a Live-USB and then try to reformat using gparted
[18:17] <thecyclone> then i said that it could be due to some error in the DVD and advised him to use LIVE_USB for installation and tell me what happened
[18:17] <redangek> Ntemis: uninstall the vdpau
[18:17] <ubuntu-mate> I just re-did the download from ubuntu-mate.org. If I've got bad or broken packages, so does everyone else.
[18:17] <Ntemis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12399317/
[18:17] <badbodh> thecyclone: sounds about right. ubuntu-mate boot to live and join this channel, let's try a few things
[18:18] <Ntemis> badbodh: looks ok to me
[18:18] <Knight80> Perhaps I need some libraries or something, don't you think?
[18:18] <LambdaComplex> redangek: Having an EFI System Partition mounted at /boot works just fine. I'm wondering why the Ubuntu docs say to mount it at /boot/efi
[18:18] <ubuntu-mate> I am here on the ubuntu-mate live system.
[18:18] <Knight80> I'm on Ubuntu Gnome 15.04
[18:18] <redangek> LambdaComplex: that's what Windows uses
[18:19] <LambdaComplex> redangek: Uh...no, that's not how that works
[18:19] <thecyclone> ubuntu-mate, run this command and show us the output on a pastebin sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda
[18:19] <thecyclone> "sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda"
[18:19] <badbodh> Ntemis: looks like you already have vdpau package installed, why are you trying to install xserver-xorg-lts-vivid ?
[18:19] <Ntemis> i dont have it
[18:19] <ubuntu-mate> OK
[18:20] <badbodh> Ntemis: what command did you run that gave the previous error message
[18:20] <badbodh> "you have held broken blah blah"
[18:20] <redangek> LambdaComplex: boot your computer holding f12 then select bootable hard drive. It will then show all efi in boot/efi
[18:21] <ubuntu-mate> here's the output i received: ubuntu-mate@ubuntu-mate:~$ sudo gdisk -l /devb/sda
[18:21] <ubuntu-mate> GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.10
[18:21] <ubuntu-mate> Problem opening /devb/sda for reading! Error is 2.
[18:21] <ubuntu-mate> The specified file does not exist!
[18:21] <LambdaComplex> redangek: And in that case "boot" is just the ESP itself
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-mate  use a pastebin for miltiple lines
[18:21] <badbodh> ubuntu-mate: run "lsblk" and "sudo blkid" and show on pastebin
[18:21] <ubuntu-mate> ok
[18:21] <thecyclone> ubuntu-mate, did you have windows 8 preinstalled on your system?
[18:22] <redangek> LambdaComplex: it may show all. Even child directories
[18:22] <ubuntu-mate> ubuntu-mate@ubuntu-mate:~$ sudo gdisk -l /devb/sda
[18:22] <ubuntu-mate> GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.10
[18:22] <ubuntu-mate> Problem opening /devb/sda for reading! Error is 2.
[18:22] <ubuntu-mate> The specified file does not exist!
[18:22] <badbodh> ^ good question. windows 7 doesn;t need gpt
[18:22] <badbodh> ubuntu-mate: hey! use pastebin :/
[18:22] <ubuntu-mate> ubuntu-mate@ubuntu-mate:~$ sudo gdisk -l /devb/sda
[18:22] <ubuntu-mate> GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.10
[18:22] <ubuntu-mate> Problem opening /devb/sda for reading! Error is 2.
[18:22] <ubuntu-mate> The specified file does not exist!
[18:23] <Ntemis> badbodh: mesa-vdpau-drivers
[18:23] <thecyclone> ubuntu-mate: this is a common problem
[18:23] <thecyclone> you can try to fix it using fixparts
[18:23] <LambdaComplex> redangek: Windows mounts drives to separate letters, not to folders. There is no "/boot" on Windows. And even if that were how Windows did it, that still doesn't really answer my question. It works fine mounted at /boot
[18:23] <thecyclone> try thi ubuntu-mate: "fixparts /dev/sda"
[18:23] <Ntemis> badbodh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12399358/
[18:24] <redangek> LambdaComplex: if you dual boot. In ubuntu if you select Windows efi to boot it will then on boot straight into Windows. To go back to ubuntu efi just do it again and select ubuntu
[18:24] <badbodh> thecyclone: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12399358/ looks bad ?
[18:25] <redangek> LambdaComplex: boot/efi is hidden
[18:26] <ships> badbodh, i dont want to instal tor inside geust vm
[18:26] <ships> i want that vbox use proxy
[18:26] <thecyclone> badbodh: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124845/eerror-pkgproblemresolverresolve-generated-breaks-this-may-be-caused-by-hel this can solve i think
[18:27] <ships> like that guest use all protocol on tor ;)
[18:27] <redangek> LambdaComplex: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/294773
[18:28] <redangek> LambdaComplex: But it's still unwritable after doing that
[18:28] <LambdaComplex> redangek: I really don't see how Windows handles the ESP is relevant to a discussion of Linux
[18:28] <badbodh> ships: vbox will use your network adapter. install tor inside vbox for tor functionality. this is how it works, app>tor>vbox-network>host-network>internets
[18:29] <badbodh> ships: even if you install tor in your host os, the os-es inside vbox won;t be aware of that. you could join virtualbox's channel in freenode and ask for details. i'm no expert :D
[18:30] <redangek> LambdaComplex: because installing one leaves others in the folder
[18:30] <badbodh> LambdaComplex: he is a troll ignore him
[18:30] <redangek> LambdaComplex: allowing you to boot from them latter
[18:31] <LambdaComplex> redangek: Either badbodh is right or you have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about.  I'm not very experienced with chat and am having an issue getting to the pastebin.
[18:32] <redangek> LambdaComplex: I am right and you can install uefi in any partition. It's just that ubuntu defaults to Windows partition. You goof
[18:32] <Expletive> I've got an ubuntu system that hangs during boot with a flashing underscore on a black screen. I installed 15.04, and on it's first boot it was fine. But after I updated it, it stopped booting. I've tried nomodeset, but it hasn't helped. The good news is that I can boot into recovery mode.
[18:32] <ships> akik, i want to start vbox with proxy without install it inside guest vb
[18:33] <bekks> ships: Then install your proxy outside a vm and setup your guests like you have been told.
[18:33] <redangek> Expletive: you using fglrx
[18:33] <bekks> Too late.
[18:33] <thecyclone> ubuntu-mate: "fixparts /dev/sda" try this
[18:34] <badbodh> Expletive: ignore redangek he is a troll. we got a full house, stick around someone will get back to you
[18:34] <akik> english, do you speak it?
[18:34] <thecyclone> badbodh, are there any admins who ban trolls?
[18:35] <redangek> Expletive: you using AMD graphic card with fglrx
[18:35] <badbodh> thecyclone: admins are gone hiking to mount wannahockaloogie
[18:35] <thecyclone> lol
[18:36] <badbodh> ubuntu-mate: running the fixpart cmd ?
[18:36] <redangek> You criticize but nobody talk to Expletive
[18:36] <ships> sorry akik i speak litlle english :/
[18:36] <ioria> Expletive, raid ?
[18:37] <akik> redangek: did you forget that you were insulting people a couple of minutes ago?
[18:37] <Expletive> redangek: Actually I am
[18:37] <ubuntu-mate> I've got the pastebin open but have no idea how to use it.
[18:37] <badbodh> Expletive: focus buddy. talk to ioria , ignore trolls.
[18:37] <ubuntu-mate> badbodh: I'm peddling as fast as I can, but I'm a little lost.
[18:38] <ships> redangek, its a children do not speak with him
[18:38] <Expletive> ioria: No raid. Only the one hard drive.
[18:38] <ioria> Expletive, ssd ?
[18:38] <ThatNewGuy> Hey guys, does anyone know how to get redshift working?
[18:38] <Expletive> ioria: No, just the one hard disk drive.
[18:38] <ioria> Expletive, sudo parted -l ?
[18:39] <badbodh> ubuntu-mate: you just copy-paste the contents of the terminal into it. there are plenty of pastebin websites. dpaste.com, slexy.org , just pick one and get pasting manually
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> ThatNewGuy  i use redshift, as we speak... guess you need redshift-gtk
[18:39] <ubuntu-mate> ok. i am at the fixpart command under gdisk. what now?
[18:39] <ioria> Expletive, and sudo lshw -c video
[18:39] <redangek> Expletive: FGLRX and the new kernel and xorg-server 1.17 don't play together
[18:39] <ioria> Expletive, you can paste on paste.ubuntu.com or install pastebinit
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> Expletive  or use nc 9999
[18:40] <ThatNewGuy> MonkeyDust, Alright, I installed both packages, including gtk. When I launch it it says can't locate where I am
[18:41] <Expletive> ioria: While I can run those commands on the recovery mode shell I can't pastebin their output because the machine won't boot.
[18:41] <ubuntu-mate> badbodh: a have a pastbin open but it will not allow me to paste into it.
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> ThatNewGuy  i guess it uses locales, to determine when the sun rises and sets
[18:41] <saturday_sun> hello! I'm using a pc with a celeron (2 core) for a samba share and some more stuff. last night I copied a lot of files to a remote server via scp and the load got very high (about 8). The thing is that the load remained at 8-7, after the copy was over. I had to restart the server to get it "normal" again. Did I like "crash" it by doing scp?
[18:41] <ioria> Expletive, sudo lshw -c video | grep driver
[18:42] <ubuntu-mate> i think i found it.
[18:42] <badbodh> ubuntu-mate: can you select/copy text outputs from terminal? go to this website http://slexy.org/ and paste. share resulting url
[18:42] <Ntemis> badbodh: fixed
[18:42] <saturday_sun> (running ubuntu 15.04)
[18:43] <thecyclone> ubuntu-mate, did you try my fix?
[18:43] <badbodh> Ntemis: what did you do for fixing ?
[18:43] <Expletive> ioria: driver=fglrx_pci latency=0
[18:43] <ubuntu-mate> i am connected on http://paste.ubuntu.com/12399433/
[18:43] <Ntemis> badbodh: sudo apt-get install mesa-vdpau-drivers-lts-vivid
[18:43] <badbodh> Ntemis: no errors this time? good then.
[18:43] <ioria> Expletive, did you install fglrx from terminl or from Additional Driver gui ?
[18:43] <badbodh> deep breath
[18:44] <Ntemis> :)
[18:44] <Expletive> additional drivers gui
[18:44] <Ntemis> that package should be on wiki
[18:44] <badbodh> ubuntu-mate: lol. that's not how pastebin works :D , you just copy-paste stuff like any normal text file.
[18:44] <ioria> Expletive,  sudo parted -l | grep boot
[18:45] <badbodh> it's not like skype or something to "stay connected"
[18:45] <Ntemis> i was trying to install "mesa-vdpau-drivers" thats is wrong and not installable
[18:45] <badbodh> Ntemis: makes more sense. you god vivid drivers pre-installed, needs vivd-vdpau drivers with it
[18:46] <Ntemis> i dont have vivid i have lts hw enablement stuck
[18:46] <ubuntu-mate> badbodh: the last output you asked me for is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/12399433/
[18:46] <badbodh> ubuntu-mate: highlight thecyclone's nick too when you reply. we both are following this topic.
[18:47] <Expletive> ioria: 1 1049kB 256MB 255MB primary ext2 boot
[18:47] <ubuntu-mate> thank you, both.
[18:47] <ubuntu-mate> the cyclone: the results that i pasted are on http://paste.ubuntu.com/12399433/
[18:47] <funkenstrahlen> Hey, I try to setup unattended-upgrades, but apperently they do not get run by cron. I did some research and found out that the unnattended-upgrades get run by the /etc/cron.daily/apt script. Is that true?
[18:48] <ioria> Expletive,  no uefi then ?  .... partition table in parted -l says msdos ?
[18:48] <funkenstrahlen> For me it is however named apt.disabled. Does this actually disable the cron run for apt?
[18:48] <redangek> Expletive: support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalyst15-7LINReleaseNotes.aspx look at system requirements. Kernel and xorg-server especially
[18:48] <thecyclone> badbodh ubuntu-mate i think he should run "fixparts /dev/sda" and tell us the output
[18:49] <thecyclone> this command can automatically detect and sugget solutions
[18:49] <badbodh> yeah
[18:49] <ubuntu-mate> ok will do
[18:49] <redangek> Expletive: what version of fglrx are you using
[18:49] <Knight80> Hello everyone
[18:49] <ioria> Expletive, did you set a different partition for /boot ?
[18:49] <badbodh> to my knowledge windows 7 doesn;t use gpt/efi partition. it runs on classic mbr/bios.
[18:49] <ViperZ> QUESTION - I just installed and configured a windows 8.1 system to be a dual boot - i used easybcd to try and point to my linux grub but it kinda wrecked my bootloader - i currently can get into windows via the boot menu but have to boot from a cd that has grub2 on it to get to my linux install - would booting from my linux live and mounting my linux boot partition and then doing a sudo update-grub fix?
[18:50] <Knight80> Speaker's test isn't working in Ubuntu Gnome 15.04
[18:50] <Knight80> What can I do?
[18:50] <bekks> badbodh: Windows 7 uses UEFI when you install it with UEFI being enabled.
[18:50] <badbodh> oh. ok
[18:50] <Expletive> ioria: The partition table is MSdos, and I don't know if there's a separate boot partition, but I ticked the box to enable logical volume management during the install
[18:51] <ioria> Expletive, sorry ... don't know nothing about lvm .....
[18:51] <ubuntu-mate> badbodh thecyclone the output is on pastebin
[18:52] <redangek> ioria: Expletive is booting. It's his graphic driver. You jacka--
[18:52] <badbodh> share the url here ubuntu-mate
[18:52] <Expletive> redangek: I'm using the version that was installed by the additional drivers gui.
[18:52] <ubuntu-mate> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12399478/
[18:52] <ioria> Expletive, how did you set nomodeset in /etc/default/grub or editing the kernel libne at boot ?
[18:52] <ioria> *line
[18:52] <badbodh> redangek: how did you know he has ati card? did you tell him to run relevant commands to check gpu details ?
[18:53] <FooQuuxman> FYI: the bug I asked about earlier solved itself with a system update, was probably a kernel problem
[18:53] <FooQuuxman> (thanks anyway)
[18:53] <Expletive> I held shift, selected ubuntu with additional options and pressed e. Then replaces "quiet splash" with "nomodeset"
[18:53] <redangek> Expletive: doing an distro upgrade wouldn't upgrade a proprietary graphic driver. You need to upgrade the driver
[18:53] <ubuntu-mate> badboh thecyclone the url is http://paste.ubuntu.com/12399478/
[18:54] <badbodh> ubuntu-mate: now run "lsblk" and "sudo blkid" and show the output. <- thecyclone
[18:54] <ioria> Expletive, well... you can try to purge fglrx* ....
[18:54] <ubuntu-mate> ok
[18:55] <badbodh> thecyclone: hold the fort, i gotta run to wonderland for an adventure
[18:55] <ubuntu-mate> badbodh thecyclone the output is up
[18:56] <thecyclone> paste the url here
[18:56] <redangek> Expletive: sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[18:56] <thecyclone> badbodh, going for the "nature's call" :p
[18:56] <badbodh> thecyclone: nah some serious work :(
[18:57] <badbodh> have fun
[18:57] <thecyclone> ubuntu-mate, try sudo with the command i suggested
[18:57] <redangek> Expletive: sudo jockey-text. That's a text version
[18:58] <ioria> Expletive, but you have to remount the fs rw,,, i think
[18:58] <ubuntu-mate> thecyclone sudo with which command?
[18:58] <thecyclone> ubuntu-mate, "sudo fixparts /dev/sda"
[19:00] <ubuntu-mate> thecyclone the output is on pastebin
[19:00] <thecyclone> ubuntu-mate, url please
[19:01] <ubuntu-mate> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12399522/ sorry
[19:01] <redangek> ioria: you trying real good to wreck his install
[19:02] <Expletive> redangek: "W:Not using lock file for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock" "E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt" "E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened."
[19:02] <Expletive> From the sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[19:02] <Expletive> I left out the sudo because I'm at the root recovery shell
[19:03] <ubuntu-mate> thecyclone http://paste.ubuntu.com/12399522/
[19:03] <ioria> redangek, can you elaborate, please ?
[19:04] <x201> hi, I have a thinkpad x201 and today I installed Xubuntu on it but I cannot get any audio to come out of the speakers
[19:04] <x201> When I plug headphones in, I can get sound out of those just not anything from the main speakers
[19:05] <p3rsist> Hi guys. Is there a way to disable touchpad input if usb mouse is plugged in?
[19:05] <ioria> Expletive, to have write permission or you 'enable network' or remount the fs rw
[19:05] <hackerman> Test
[19:05] <hackerman> Hello?
[19:05] <Expletive> Well, here's an idea. Should I just reinstall 15.04 and then not install fglrx?
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> hackerman  itw orks
[19:05] <hackerman> Cool
[19:06] <redangek> It's either being used by another process or ubuntu always needs sudo
[19:06] <OneM_Industries> How do I remove AVG from my box? It is hogging resources, and it is even harder to remove than an actual virus. =/
[19:06] <bekks> OneM_Industries: How did you install it?
[19:06] <OneM_Industries> I don't remember.
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> OneM_Industries  avg is for windows, are you in ubuntu now?
[19:06] <ubuntu-mate> thecyclone: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12399522/
[19:06] <OneM_Industries> I am in ubuntu.
[19:07] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: ask them, they have paid support i'm sure :)
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> OneM_Industries  then why and how did you install avg?
[19:07] <kostkon> !find avg
[19:07] <OneM_Industries> I honestly have no clue.
[19:07] <Expletive> redangek: The machine has no network access.
[19:08] <ioria> Expletive, from recovery you can choose 'enable network'
[19:08] <Expletive> ioria: I did choose that.
[19:08] <ioria> Expletive, wifi ?
[19:08] <Expletive> Yes
[19:08] <ioria> Expletive, it's different then .... mount --options remount,rw /
[19:09] <daftykins> ioria: that's a whole lot of typing, -o ? ;)
[19:09] <thecyclone> ubuntu-mate, do you have windows?
[19:10] <Rvov> I have one window in the wall
[19:10] <le_pig_> hmm
[19:10] <ioria> daftykins, can you help him ? no boot after upgrade  ... maybe fglrx issue
[19:10] <OneM_Industries> Bother, their support is useless.
[19:10] <daftykins> hmm didn't see any back story, but i can take a glance
[19:11] <ioria> daftykins, driver=fglrx_pci latency=0 ,  use lvm
[19:11] <ubuntu-mate> thecyclone: I do have a new windows7pro install, but no drivers for internet access. can't imagine why.
[19:11] <daftykins> ugh LVM
[19:12] <daftykins> ioria: those were boot params?
[19:12] <thecyclone> ubuntu-mate, open windows and use its disk-management to create free space where you want to install ubuntu
[19:12] <naftilos76> Hi is there a safe way to load the entire system in a tmpfs and run from there? I am talking about ubuntu not puppy linux and other similar solutions.
[19:12] <ioria> daftykins, no lshw -c video .... maybe he still have nomodet at boot
[19:12] <daftykins> okie dokie
[19:12] <ioria> *has
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> naftilos76  you mean like a live dvd or usb
[19:13] <ViperZ> QUESTION - I just installed and configured a windows 8.1 system to be a dual boot - i used easybcd to try and point to my linux grub but it kinda wrecked my bootloader - i currently can get into windows via the boot menu but have to boot from a cd that has grub2 on it to get to my linux install - would booting from my linux live and mounting my linux boot partition and then doing a sudo update-grub fix?
[19:13] <Rvov> \quit
[19:13] <daftykins> ViperZ: it sounds like you're saying GRUB isn't even installed.
[19:13] <ubuntu-mate> thecyclone: i will have to exit from here to do that but I'll give it a whirl. thank you.
[19:13] <thecyclone> :)
[19:13] <redangek> Expletive: maybe do a new install.
[19:13] <daftykins> Expletive: so what's your current situation? in recovery mode with / remounted read+write ?
[19:13] <ViperZ> daftykins, it is but on boot its not being seen
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> ViperZ  what happens when you try?
[19:14] <daftykins> ViperZ: sounds like you left your BIOS/EFI set to the Windows Boot Manager instead of the disk device name
[19:14] <Expletive> redangek , ioria: okay, did that and ubuntu-drivers autoinstall worked. It listed a few packages as no longer required though: dkms fglrx-updates-core lib32gcc1 libc6i386
[19:14] <ViperZ> daftykins, i set it to legacy and not uefi
[19:14] <ubuntu-mate> #exit
[19:14] <daftykins> ViperZ: still relevant, check the boot entries
[19:15] <ioria> daftykins, ^ Expletive
[19:15] <ViperZ> daftykins, in windows?
[19:15] <daftykins> ViperZ: no in the BIOS
[19:16] <redangek> Expletive: wonder if it uninstalled fglrx. See if it boots
[19:16] <ViperZ> daftykins, it shows the usual - hard drive - optical - removable - network / for boot options
[19:16] <daftykins> no!
[19:16] <naftilos76> MonkeyDust: probably yes
[19:16] <daftykins> Expletive: "dpkg -l | grep fglrx"
[19:16] <ioria> Expletive, try to resume so we are sure you are not using nomodeset
[19:16] <ioria> Expletive, wait...
[19:17] <Expletive> how do I resume boot from the recovery shell?
[19:17] <ioria>  Expletive  "dpkg -l | grep fglrx"
[19:17] <daftykins> ah well if i'm gonna be invisible... :)
[19:17] <redangek> Expletive: sudo reboot
[19:17] <daftykins> ViperZ: ok, i reckon you didn't have GRUB install to the correct device.
[19:18] <Expletive> fglrx-updates fglrx-updates-core are the listed packages
[19:18] <OneM_Industries> So, found how to remove AVG. Wipe it's program directories of the face of the earth.
[19:18] <ViperZ> daftykins, i shrunk the windows partition and installed it to my ext4 partition
[19:18] <ioria> daftykins, ^ Expletive
[19:19] <daftykins> ViperZ: that's wrong, GRUB goes to the main disk - not to a partition
[19:20] <vista> hello
[19:21] <vista> hi
[19:21] <nmg123> I installed kubuntu and many elements will not load. The status icons are black boxes, the application menu icon appears briefly on login, then disappears. No background works. It's always black. The previews in the background selector also appear in black. Finally, in the application menu, the hover highlight color is black. This has happened once, and then again on reinstall. What is happening ehre?
[19:21] <nmg123> here*
[19:21] <daftykins> vista: hi, ask a support question if you have one :)
[19:21] <daftykins> nmg123: sounds like a lack of proper hardware acceleration, thus no graphics driver installed for your hardware. Which do you have?
[19:22] <vista> does anyone know how to install minecraft
[19:22] <ViperZ> well the install was to /dev/sda but it is found on /dev/sda9
[19:22] <nmg123> daftykins: which what?
[19:22] <OneM_Industries> vista: try #minecraft on espernet
[19:22] <ViperZ> daftykins, that was for you
[19:22] <daftykins> nmg123: graphics card
[19:22] <vista> whats espernet
[19:22] <Expletive> ioria: should I try to boot?
[19:22] <daftykins> ViperZ: nah you're misreading boot repair logs by the sounds.
[19:23] <daftykins> vista: in what context? where are you seeing that name?
[19:23] <nmg123> daftykins: not sure. It's an old gaming desktop.
[19:23] <OneM_Industries> vista: Else, just download it, and set minecraft.jar's executable bit to true.
[19:23] <daftykins> nmg123: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lspci | pastebinit" please
[19:23] <daftykins> vista: nevermind
[19:23] <nmg123> daftykins: will try. just a moment
[19:24] <vista> i really want to install minecraft but dont know hoe
[19:24] <vista> how
[19:25] <ioria>  Expletive  well ... just to be sure what command did you run ? ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ?
[19:25] <daftykins> vista: there are roughly two million guides online, look it up.
[19:25] <HysT> God damn, my vlc player can't play .mkv files, that is hilarious
[19:25] <daftykins> HysT: unlikely.
[19:25] <Knight80> Hello everyone
[19:25] <HysT> it's an x265
[19:25] <ViperZ> daftykins, when i run grub2 from a disk i have it search for any installation of grub and thats where it shows it - what would you recommend i do to fix - i lost access to my windows for a day and it was a pain to get back so hopefully i can get this resolved
[19:25] <Expletive> ioria: Yes, that one.
[19:25] <daftykins> ViperZ: boot live session, run boot-repair
[19:25] <Knight80> After installing Konsole in Ubuntu Gnome 15.04, sound isn't working...
[19:26] <Expletive> Also I ran dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[19:26] <nmg123> daftykins: unfortunately I forgot my admin password. I can manually paste it though.
[19:26] <ViperZ> daftykins, from the command line or where exactly
[19:26] <daftykins> !bootrepair
[19:26] <daftykins> nmg123: sounds good
[19:27] <daftykins> nmg123: http://paste.ubuntu.com preferred
[19:27] <ioria>  Expletive  try to reboot so we are sure you're not using nomodeset..
[19:27] <ioria> at least ...
[19:27] <nmg123> daftykins: sorry. I did pastebin.com/menXh61M
[19:28] <monika-janco> to co je toto
[19:28] <HysT> daftykins, btw, vlc was missing a codec - libde265, installed it now it's working fine ;)
[19:29] <Knight80> After installing Konsole in Ubuntu Gnome 15.04, sound isn't working...
[19:29] <ViperZ> daftykins, i have a boot disk with that on it but your saying its on the live disk too?
[19:29] <monika-janco> slovensky prosim
[19:29] <Expletive> ioria: Tried to boot normally, it hung on a back screen with a flashing underscore in the top left corner, after showing the splash screen and various text.
[19:29] <daftykins> nmg123: ok that's a very old system, nvidia FX5700 - you can try installing a graphics driver such as nvidia-304 but i don't know off hand if that one even still supports that generation
[19:29] <daftykins> ViperZ: or can be added
[19:29] <Expletive> Should I go back to recovery mode?
[19:30] <ioria>  Expletive  yes, remount rw the fs and purge it all
[19:30] <ViperZ> daftykins, i tried running that from the cd and it yelled at me for having efi on my system
[19:30] <nmg123> daftykins: ok. and how would I go about doing that (also the hover previews are all kinds of screwy (but I guess that is just another side effect)
[19:30] <daftykins> ViperZ: sounds like you didn't boot in the corresponding mode your installs are in perhaps
[19:30] <daftykins> nmg123: well you'll need the admin pass for that :D
[19:31] <Expletive> ioria: Purge what? fglrx?
[19:31] <ioria>  Expletive  yes
[19:31] <nmg123> daftykins: :P I might have to reinstall
[19:31] <ViperZ> daftykins, the only way i can boot from a cd or usb is in legacy mode - they dont show up when im in efi - so i did the install in legacy mode
[19:31] <ioria>  Expletive  purge fglrx*
[19:31] <Knight80> Will you please help me out? My sound system is not working...
[19:32] <daftykins> nmg123: nah, boot to recovery
[19:32] <daftykins> !patience | Knight80
[19:33] <Knight80> I'm sorry
[19:33] <daftykins> ioria: do we know which AMD device Expletive has?
[19:33] <nmg123> daftykins: how do I. It boots straight through without giving me an option.
[19:33] <Expletive> And then reboot?
[19:33] <ioria> daftykins,  no
[19:34] <ViperZ> i will give it a go and jump in here from my live
[19:34] <ioria>  Expletive  wait... lspci -nn | grep VGA
[19:34] <daftykins> so all this effort is pretty pointless
[19:35] <nmg123> daftykins: wait I think I see it
[19:35] <Nectar> How do i check to see if OpenVPN is installed by default? Im using Ubuntu Gnome 15.
[19:35] <Expletive> ioria: It lists the graphics card. AMD Barts XT [Radeon HD 6870]
[19:35] <stef1a> i'm on 15.04, trying to use the Japanese (Anthy IBus) input method, but it shows up as gray in the text entry menu. help?
[19:36] <daftykins> nmg123: yeah holding left shift or hitting escape gives the GRUB menu
[19:36] <ioria> Expletive, maybe it didn't occur to you  in this flood... but daftykins is trying to help you :þ
[19:36] <fni> how to install ssh on ubuntu
[19:36] <daftykins> fni: sudo apt-get install ssh
[19:36] <fni> daftykins, I did it but I don't have ~/.ssh
[19:37] <Expletive> ioria: Oh, yeah, it is a bit hard to keep track, .
[19:37] <ioria> daftykins,  ^ Expletive
[19:37] <fni> I also installed openssh-client
[19:37] <ioria> daftykins,  AMD Barts XT [Radeon HD 6870]
[19:37] <daftykins> fni: what do you want, server? to remotely connect? that's openssh-server which 'ssh' brings in.
[19:37] <daftykins> fni: if you don't have one, bear in mind it's a hidden path - also just create one
[19:38] <TJ-> fni: see "man ssh-keygen"
[19:38] <fni> TJ-, daftykins, thanks
[19:40] <nmg123> McGrande: hey
[19:41] <nmg123> daftykins: ok sooo... I booted into recovery mode and part of my screen is covered in Çâö repeating
[19:41] <daftykins> nmg123: neato.
[19:41] <nmg123> daftykins: let me guess, that's not supposed to happen
[19:42] <daftykins> nmg123: up to you then, clean install if you want - or perhaps boot a live session and chroot your existing to reset password
[19:42] <daftykins> nmg123: what's the version on there?
[19:42] <nmg123> daftykins: kubuntu 15.04.
[19:42] <nmg123> daftykins: but those random character are not supposed to be there right?
[19:43] <ViperZ> daftykins: ok there is not boot-repair on the install and i searched the software manager and it didnt find - can you apt-get it?
[19:43] <daftykins> nmg123: *shrug*
[19:43] <daftykins> can't see from here :>
[19:43] <daftykins> ViperZ: of course
[19:43] <ioria> Expletive, did you purge the driver ?
[19:43] <Expletive> yes
[19:44] <ioria> Expletive, reboot again ...
[19:44] <Expletive> Well, I did apt-get autoremove to get rid of them
[19:44] <Expletive> Hey it boots
[19:44] <ioria> Expletive, no
[19:44] <daftykins> Expletive: that's insufficient
[19:44] <ioria>  Expletive  purge fglrx*
[19:44] <Expletive> A window popped up saying "system program problem destected, do you want to report the problem now?"
[19:45] <Expletive> I don't know what the program or problem is.
[19:45] <ioria>  Expletive  a window ?
[19:45] <ViperZ> daftykins: by what name - it doesnt find boot-repair
[19:45] <ioria>  Expletive  are you not in root shell ?
[19:45] <Expletive> ioria: No, I rebooted and it booted normally.
[19:45] <daftykins> ViperZ: might need to enable universe or multiverse, are you familiar with packages.ubuntu.com also?
[19:45] <Expletive> It's an error window
[19:45] <daftykins> !info boot-repair
[19:46] <daftykins> !info bootrepair
[19:46] <daftykins> ok, that's me told.
[19:46] <ioria>  Expletive  ok then .... now you can paste .... no ?
[19:46] <ioria>  Expletive  sudo lshw -c video
[19:46] <Expletive> I can now.
[19:46] <ioria>  Expletive  sudo lshw -c video
[19:47] <ViperZ> daftykins: been away from linux for some time - i did enable multiverse on a different distro but any guidance would be appreciated
[19:47] <ioria>  Expletive  and "dpkg -l | grep fglrx"
[19:47] <daftykins> ViperZ: click the settings cog, go to software & something
[19:47] <ioria>  Expletive  you can rid of those error rm files in /var/crash
[19:48] <ioria> *s
[19:49] <ViperZ> daftykins: im at software sources
[19:49] <nmg123> ok yeah daftykins I will reinstall it looks like a corrupted install
[19:49] <daftykins> ViperZ: i'm sorry but i'm not quite so free for a handholding right now, though it's beginning to look like it's not in repos for 15.04
[19:49] <daftykins> nmg123: okie dokie, since it's so old it might be worth checking the hard disks health
[19:50] <Expletive> Okay, I did sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[19:50] <nmg123> daftykins: we bought a new hard drive for it
[19:50] <ioria>  Expletive  well, i asked to paste the outputs, first ... :-)
[19:51] <daftykins> ViperZ: yeah my mistake, it's PPA based - see https://damayanthiherath.wordpress.com/2015/07/09/boot-repair-ftw-how-to-fix-the-broken-grub-with-windows-7-and-ubuntu-15-04/
[19:51] <daftykins> nmg123: ah ok
[19:51] <ioria>  Expletive  paste.ubuntu.com
[19:51] <nmg123> daftykins: could I somehow have a corrupted install disk?
[19:51] <ioria>  Expletive  but ok ... rm files in /var/crash and reboot
[19:52] <daftykins> nmg123: yep, md5 your download and check the disc via its' menu
[19:54] <ViperZ> daftykins: that did it - thank you sir
[19:55] <nmg123_> daftykins: how do I check the disk via its' menu?
[19:55] <daftykins> nmg123_: well, often they have a 'check disc for defects' option, when you press a key after it begins to load
[19:56] <daftykins> this is when you're staring at a coloured screen with a small logo at the bottom
[19:56] <nmg123_> daftykins: the one with the little dude and the keyboard?
[19:56] <daftykins> yep
[19:56] <ViperZ> daftykins: its telling me the same thing - to reboot and run in an efi session
[19:57] <nmg123_> daftykins: ok, missed that. will try again in a minute
[19:57] <daftykins> ViperZ: hmm, "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[19:57] <nmg123_> daftykins: the strange thing is that the live CD did not have this issues (well, not most of them)
[19:58] <daftykins> nmg123_: *shrug* they're both very different ball-games :)
[19:58] <ViperZ> daftykins: Bad API request, invalid api_dev_key
[19:59] <daftykins> ViperZ: ugh. ok just paste it manually to http://paste.ubuntu.com (sudo parted -l)
[20:00] <Nectar> Is openVPN installed in ubuntu 15.04 my default?
[20:00] <Nectar> BY
[20:00] <Guest64361> i have a problem. can someone help me?
[20:00] <daftykins> Guest64361: not until you describe it
[20:00] <bekks> Guest64361: You have to state your problem first :)
[20:00] <daftykins> Nectar: no
[20:01] <Nectar> ok thanks
[20:01] <Guest64361> ok. first im on a VM with KVM and i wanted to make a VM in a VM for development. but if is start the VM i crashes
[20:02] <ViperZ> daftykins: pasted
[20:03] <daftykins> ViperZ: yeah you have to actually link here, as fun as guessing multi-character strings are for unique paste IDs
[20:03] <daftykins> :>
[20:04] <ViperZ> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12399823/
[20:04] <daftykins> you're installed EFI :)
[20:04] <compdoc> Guest64361, I think your hardware has to support that, and you have to enable the feature in the bios
[20:05] <daftykins> ViperZ: have you done much in your Ubuntu install yet?
[20:06] <ViperZ> daftykins: ummm some - i dont understand how because i cant even boot from cd or usb in efi
 someone told me it does work. on Proxmox it does work fine. but there im not able to set up network. thats the problem.
[20:06] <daftykins> ViperZ: well, your Windows install looks like it's EFI :) so i suspect booting legacy Ubuntu and installing doesn't work because they're now disparate.
[20:06] <daftykins> brb
[20:07] <ioria>  Expletive  i'm going to exit ... how are you doing ?
[20:07] <ViperZ> daftykins: what do you recommend
[20:08] <ViperZ> daftykins: windows def was efi - pre-loaded
[20:08] <Guest64361> has someone expirience how to install xubuntu on my DELL VANUE 8 Pro?
[20:10] <bekks> Guest64361: What happens when you just use the install cd?
[20:10] <mcnz> Hi there, just setting up a ubuntu machine and I've ran select-editor, so that visudo will actually use vim (what i want), so i select /usr/bin/vim.basic but when running visudo it still uses nano?
[20:10] <daftykins> !efi | ViperZ try following the convert legacy to EFI section
[20:10] <Apteryx> Hello! Is there a way to see a summary of the available updates from the command line? I'd like to know what they are about before installing them.
[20:11] <daftykins> Apteryx: well "sudo apt-get upgrade" or dist-upgrade show which are to go on, you want more than that?
 the VM doesn't boot up. it crashes on boot with CD or no CD it doesn'T change anything... :(
[20:12] <Apteryx> daftykins: I'd like something like: some_package: Fix problem XXX.
[20:12] <bekks> Guest64361: A VM is not "on my Dell Vanue Pro 8". The former means a virtual machine, the latter means your hardware.
[20:12] <Apteryx> A description of the fix brought by the update.
[20:12] <ViperZ> daftykins: will go through that and see whats what - thanks for all your help
[20:13] <daftykins> Apteryx: good luck with that.
[20:13] <Guest64361> ah ok you are at this problem :) i have another with an VM :D  on DELL it ignores it. it just boot windows 8
[20:13] <Apteryx> daftykins: When I install updates in the ubuntu UI, I can see this text if I click on 'Details' or something like this.
[20:13] <bekks> Guest64361: So disable safemode and disable fastboot.
[20:14] <Guest64361> yeah i tried this but there is an error with the key. im not allowed to install it because the is isnt match. and after i touch the screen it reboot
[20:15] <daftykins> what key? your 8 key?
[20:15] <bekks> Guest64361: Error with which key? You dont need any keys for installing Ubuntu.
[20:17] <debac> Hello everyone! I am running ubuntu 15.04. I was in the middle of doing work and I accidentally pressed a combination of f5 or f6 and ctrl and possibly an arrow key. All of a sudden I was dropped out of gnome and into a terminal. I could log on using my name and passwd, but had no DE! My music started playing again, so I know it was the same session. I typed in startx and Im not sure what environment im in. Is it possible to get back to
[20:17] <debac> gnome without rebooting?
[20:17] <Guest64361> the key bios key doesnt match the cd key. sorry but my english is too bad to explain it right :/
[20:17] <Apteryx> Anyone knows if virtual terminals are supposed to work with the AMD closed source drivers?
[20:17] <bekks> debac: Press ctrl+f7
[20:17] <Apteryx> I might be configuring something badly, but I remember if I tried switching to any virtual terminal, I'd get a black screen and no prompt.
[20:17] <debac> bekks:nothing seems to happen...
[20:17] <bekks> Guest64361: The Ubuntu cd doesnt have any keys.
[20:18] <daftykins> debac: Alt+F7
[20:18] <Guest64361> do you understand german?
[20:18] <bekks> !de | Guest64361
[20:18] <debac> daftykins: still nada :/
[20:18] <daftykins> debac: ctrl+alt? :D you should at least change TTYs with F1 through F6
[20:18] <Guest64361> ah ok thx :D ill go there now
[20:18] <thedanyes> debac: sounds like you've switched ttys.  the X.org usually runs on tty7.
[20:19] <thedanyes> debac: ctrl+alt+f7 will bring you back to x.org
[20:19] <daftykins> thedanyes: heh you're a bit late to the party there.
[20:20] <thedanyes> daftykins: i just sawa  bunch of people saying ctrl or alt, but no one giving the actual right keys
[20:20] <daftykins> that's because you don't need Ctrl when you're already at a TTY
[20:20] <daftykins> so Alt+F7 is sufficient
[20:20] <daftykins> so no, people weren't wrong
[20:21] <thedanyes> daftykins: ah interesting.  well it's best to know the way that always works, and the guy who said ctrl+f7 was wrong
[20:21] <daftykins> debac: any progress?
[20:23] <shachaf> When I turn my Bluetooth mouse off and back on -- or let it idle for a while -- it doesn't connect, and the only way I've found to get it working is to pair it again.
[20:24] <shachaf> dmesg shows e.g. "hid-generic 0005:045E:07A2.0008: unknown main item tag 0x0". Any idea what's going on here? I tried "trusting" it with blueman-manager, which I saw suggested somewhere, but that didn't change anything.
[20:26] <thedanyes> shachaf: I've had troubles with bluetooth as well, and not just on Linux.  What kind of mouse?
[20:27] <shachaf> Microsoft Comfort Mouse of some sort.
[20:27] <shachaf> It used to work in Ubuntu a while ago.
[20:28] <thedanyes> shachaf: model number might help
[20:28] <shachaf> But I've upgraded several times since then.
[20:28] <thedanyes> shachaf: and which bt adapter you're using, whether it's one that came with the mouse or what
[20:29] <shachaf> Microsoft Sculpt Comfort Mouse. I don't see a model number.
[20:29] <shachaf> I'm using whatever Intel Bluetooth card is built into this laptop.
[20:30] <Langley> Help, on start up the rotation of one of my displays have been forgotten. Using fglrx
[20:31] <jackhum> can anyone help me with this http://puu.sh/kadYl/03afaff2e0.png
[20:31] <thedanyes> shachaf: might be worth booting a live CD of LTS to see if you can reproduce the issue there.
[20:31] <thedanyes> shachaf: to see whether it's version-related
 are there important files?
[20:33] <jackhum> Guest64361: offcourse
[20:33] <jackhum> its like having a wall of ext4 partition in between
[20:34] <daftykins> jackhum: you want to take 10 off E: for C: and 5GB off E: for ubuntu?
[20:35] <jackhum> daftykins: yeas
[20:35] <daftykins> jackhum: you'll need an external disk to back it all up to / clonezilla
[20:35] <daftykins> that right there is a tall order.
[20:36] <jackhum> daftykins: is there any other option?
[20:36] <daftykins> delete ubuntu, delete E: - resize C: from inside Windows, reinstall ubuntu
[20:37] <daftykins> big mess that is :)
[20:37] <daftykins> why do you want to make such small changes?
[20:38] <jackhum> daftykins: because i am running out of space in my windows partiotion
 would be better if you make windows clean? i think there is many trash
[20:39] <daftykins> jackhum: and you've cleaned all temp and windows update cache there i take it?
[20:40] <jackhum> daftykins: yes, i want to give maybe 10gb fat to my windows
[20:40] <daftykins> jackhum: how about hibernation? do you use it? you can regain a few GB disabling that
[20:40] <daftykins> admin cmd -> "powercfg -h off"
[20:40] <jackhum> daftykins: no i dont
[20:40] <daftykins> give it a go then
[20:41] <daftykins> dir /a C: to see the size hiberfil.sys is using
[20:41] <jackhum> daftykins: what?
[20:41] <jackhum> daftykins: details
[20:41] <daftykins> phrase your question better, i don't know what you're asking
[20:41] <shachaf> Another question: I have Windows installed but it's no longer in the GRUB menu. What's the right way of adding it?
[20:42] <EriC^^> shachaf: sudo update-grub
[20:42] <shachaf> Doesn't find Windows.
[20:42] <daftykins> EFI/legacy mismatch?
[20:42] <EriC^^> add it to /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[20:42] <shachaf> A lot of the documentation I find is about old GRUB commands like rootnoverify, chainloader +1, which apparently don't even exist anymore.
[20:42] <EriC^^> shachaf: type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[20:42] <shachaf> (Last time I set up dual booting that was the standard way of doing it.)
[20:43] <shachaf> EriC^^: No such file or directory
[20:43] <jackhum> daftykins: what do you mean check hibernation?
[20:43] <jackhum> daftykins: i dont use hibernation
[20:43] <EriC^^> shachaf: ok, add it to /etc/grub.d/40_custom then sudo update-grub
[20:44] <shachaf> Add what?
[20:44] <shachaf> Even when I boot to the GRUB command line manually I can't figure out the right incantation to boot to Windows.
[20:44] <EriC^^> which windows are you using?
[20:44] <daftykins> jackhum: check how big the file is, disabling hibernation can reclaim multiple GB of space.
[20:44] <shachaf> Windows 8, I think. But I don't use Windows much and I haven't booted to it in months.
[20:44] <warlock20> there is nice whowtogeek.com article out there for it
[20:45] <jackhum> daftykins: which file?
[20:45] <EriC^^> shachaf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12400078/ this is what a win8 menu entry looks like
[20:45] <daftykins> jackhum: hiberfil.sys - the hibernation one =|
[20:45] <gsaul> guys I really need help
[20:45] <shachaf> EriC^^: Huh, GRUB has changed a lot since the good old days.
[20:45] <EriC^^> shachaf: type sudo parted -l and use the windows partition instead of (hd0,msdos5)
[20:45] <daftykins> gsaul: ask
[20:46] <gsaul> I'm running 15.04
[20:46] <gsaul> I had to hard stop my laptop because it froze
[20:46] <jackhum> daftykins: i dont have hiberfil.sys
[20:46] <gsaul> it now defaults to Plymouth boot system.
[20:46] <gsaul> it hangs on starting lightdm
[20:47] <daftykins> jackhum: it's hidden, you have to "dir /a" in C:\
[20:47] <gsaul> the piped dmesg displays nothing out of line
[20:47] <gsaul> how do I get my laptop working
[20:47] <EriC^^> gsaul: check /var/log/dmesg.0
[20:48] <EriC^^> gsaul: nevermind
[20:48] <jackhum> daftykins: hiberfil.sys 3 gb
[20:48] <jackhum> daftykins: pagefil 1 gb
[20:48] <gabriel_> Hello everyone! I killed my gnome session and got dropped into a terminal. How do I resume without rebooting?
[20:48] <jackhum> daftykins: whats pagefil?
[20:48] <gabriel_> gnome-session doesnt work
[20:49] <gabriel_> nor gnome-shell
[20:49] <gabriel_> or gdm
[20:49] <Guest64361> try startx
[20:49] <gabriel_> Guest64361 : it drops me into another session that is not gnome
[20:49] <gabriel_> or perhaps not th gnome I am familiar with
[20:50] <daftykins> jackhum: your virtual memory. swap file equivalent on Windows, don't disable it. hibernation you can get rid of as i said - run an admin cmd, then "powercfg -h off"
[20:50] <Guest64361> if you log out can you switch the desktop?
[20:50] <jackhum> daftykins: i am using laptop . are there any drawbacks?
[20:50] <gabriel_> nope
[20:50] <gabriel_> I am logged out
[20:51] <Guest64361> STRG+CRL+F7 ?
[20:51] <Guest64361> STRG+CTRL+F7 ?
[20:51] <gabriel_> what is strg?
[20:51] <EriC^^> gabriel_: sudo service gdm restart
[20:51] <Guest64361> wait i have other layout on keyboard
[20:52] <Guest64361> CRTL+ALT+F7 sorry :)
[20:52] <gabriel_> EriC^^ "failed to restart gdm.service Unit gdm.service failed to load
[20:52] <gabriel_> "
[20:52] <EriC^^> does it say why? i dunno much about systemd
[20:52] <gabriel_> "no such file or directory
[20:53] <Guest64361> gabriel_ try "CRTL+ALT+F7"
[20:53] <EriC^^> try sudo systemctl gdm start
[20:53] <gabriel_> thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:53] <Guest64361> welcome ;D
[20:53] <jackhum> daftykins: ? are there any drawbacks of disabling hibernation , i am using lapto
[20:54] <daftykins> jackhum: yeah, you can't hibernate.
[20:54] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[20:55] <jackhum> daftykins: yeah , but i dont hibernate my laptop a lot ,
[20:55] <jackhum> daftykins: but when my laptop runs out of battery then what happens?
[20:56] <ikonia> ...it will shut down
[20:56] <jackhum> will it shut down or sleep?
[20:56] <ikonia> how can it sleep.....
[20:57] <ikonia> it has no power
[20:57] <bekks> jackhum: It will not sleep, there is no hibernation anymore.
[20:57] <jackhum> so it will shutdown ?
[20:57] <ikonia> yes
[20:57] <ikonia> as I said
[20:57] <jackhum> lol , i am asking silly questions
[20:57] <ikonia> 21:57 < ikonia> ...it will shut down
[20:57] <jackhum> ikonia: yeah , you said that
[20:58] <jackhum> what about my this problem http://puu.sh/kadYl/03afaff2e0.png
[20:59] <ikonia> how is that a problem ?
[20:59] <jackhum> is there any way i can transfer some space from my storage e: to middle partition
[20:59] <ikonia> shrink the partition, and grow the other
[20:59] <thecyclone> jackhum, yes you can
[20:59] <ikonia> use the gparted livecd
[20:59] <thecyclone> ikonia, right
[21:00] <Guest64361> have you tried gparted ?
[21:00] <jackhum> can i do it from my windows?
[21:00] <krizoek> whats inside a .deb files? is there sources that will be compiled?
[21:00] <ikonia> there is a risk of corruption, but as long as you pay attention it is a minimal risk
[21:00] <ikonia> jackhum: use the gparted livecd
[21:00] <thecyclone> jackhum, yes you can do it with windows
[21:00] <Guest64361> user livecd
[21:00] <thecyclone> windows works well. use disk management in windows
[21:00] <jackhum> thecyclone: windows dont show option to extend
[21:00] <Guest64361> http://gparted.org/livecd.php
[21:01] <ikonia> you cannot grow the ubuntu partition from windows
[21:01] <ikonia> hence "use the gparted livecd"
[21:01] <thecyclone> ikonia, no need for gparted live cd
[21:01] <ikonia> yes there is
[21:01] <jackhum> is there any way i can remove my current hiberfil.sys and not disable my hibernation
[21:01] <thecyclone> he can even use ubuntu live cd
[21:02] <ikonia> he can, but as the gparted gui is not installed, he'll need to install that
[21:02] <ikonia> and looking at the questions - that maybe tricky
[21:02] <jackhum> thecyclone: well, i dont have a usb right now , i am poor guy
[21:02] <thecyclone> lol
[21:02] <daftykins> jackhum: no
[21:02] <thecyclone> you have a pc
[21:02] <jackhum> thecyclone: i have a laptop
[21:02] <thecyclone> jackhum, use gparted installed in your ubuntu
[21:03] <daftykins> bekks: no, sleep is not the same as hibernate
[21:03] <jackhum> thecyclone: well, you cant extend root ,
[21:03] <daftykins> jackhum: you could change power management to sleep at a higher battery % than hibernate when flat
[21:03] <ikonia> do not use gparted from your ubuntu
[21:03] <quants> i have dyslexia and i need to add coloured overlays to what i read, can you tell me how to do this with ubuntu?
[21:03] <daftykins> either you totally re-do your partitions, make some disk space - or the above :)
[21:03] <ikonia> do not use an app from the partition that is running
[21:03] <ikonia> hence "use the gparted livecd"
[21:03] <jackhum> ikonia: you cant extend mounted root partion
[21:04] <ikonia> jackhum: why are you telling me this
[21:04] <jackhum> daftykins: how can i delete this hiberfil.sys and yet not disable hibernation?
[21:04] <Guest64361> jackhum try this one http://www.paragon-software.com/home/pm-express/ it helped me :)
[21:04] <jackhum> ikonia: idk ,
[21:04] <jackhum> Guest64361: i have easues partion master
[21:05] <daftykins> jackhum: you cannot have your cake and eat it.
[21:05] <jackhum> Guest64361: it is not helping me , is your software better?
[21:05] <ikonia> jackhum: the quicker you accept the easy solution, - download the gparted livecd and manipulate your partitions, the easier this will be
 EPM does just do windows fartitions... this one has helped me a lot of time
[21:06] <daftykins> hmm, fartitions - i like that one
[21:06] <Guest64361> sorry partitions :D
[21:07] <quants> i have dyslexia and i need to add coloured overlays to what i read, can you tell me how to do this with ubuntu?
[21:09] <Guest64361> is there a way to install ubuntu phone os on my acer liquid e700 ?
[21:09] <ikonia> Guest64361: looks at the supported devices
[21:09] <k1l_> !phone | Guest64361 see that channel and read the poritng guide in the topic
[21:09] <ikonia> Guest64361: if it's in the list, yes, if not, no
[21:12] <jackhum> okay so i removed hiberfil.sys , now is there any way , that i can sleep my laptop if i run out of battery? maybe when my battery is about 8-10 %?
[21:12] <shachaf> It looks like os-prober is looking for a directory called /win/boot, which doesn't exist on my Windows partition. Is that right?
[21:13] <ikonia> jackhum: you've been told multiple times now
[21:13] <ikonia> jackhum: is there a reason you're not accepting this ?
[21:13] <daftykins> jackhum: yeah by using sleep, which uses power as it doesn't switch off. why do you not pay more attention?
[21:14] <jackhum> daftykins: where are these settings?
[21:14] <daftykins> jackhum: they're available for discussion over in ##windows
[21:14] <daftykins> honestly if you can't config Windows, good luck here :)
[21:16] <jackhum> daftykins: haha , yeah , i can understand
[21:17] <Bashing-om> gsaul: Can you boot from grub to run level 3 in your 15.04 ?
[21:17] <gsaul> no
[21:19] <Bashing-om> gsaul: Not talking about booting to the GUI . But the boot parameter in grub's boot line . Run level 3 is a text terminal . X is not at that time started .
[21:20] <nmg123> I am having a graphical error where several sectinos of the kubuntu desktop are all black (application icon, bg, tray icons, etc.). I have an old nvdia graphics card. What should I do?
[21:21] <platzhirsch> How can I find out from which repository an apt package is?
[21:22] <Bashing-om> nmg123: Verify the chip set, and what driver matches , and is that the driver that is installed . ( what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say ?) .
[21:22] <daftykins> platzhirsch: apt-cache policy <package> i think
[21:22] <daftykins> or swap policy for show
[21:22] <Bashing-om> platzhirsch: Terminal command ' apt-cache show <package_name> is one way .
[21:23] <platzhirsch> daftykins: that seems to work ( Bashing-om: it didn't list that)
[21:24] <nmg123> Bashing-om: it says a lot
[21:24] <Bashing-om> platzhirsch: Should if that repo is eneabled, what is the package name and I will verify .
[21:24] <nmg123> daftykins: what was that driver you asked me to install and how would I install it?
[21:24] <platzhirsch> Bashing-om: jenkins
[21:25] <sesshomaru> Hello, I'm using Nat connection sharing on a live boot to run wireless down to Ethernet and am wondering if it's possible to forward ports
[21:26] <Bashing-om> nmg123: Yeay, If ya need guidance . We do .. please use a paste site to show the channel the results of the commands .
[21:26] <daftykins> nmg123: sudo apt-get install nvidia-304
[21:28] <Bashing-om> platzhirsch: " apt-cache search >> jenkins-crypto-util " ; That the one ?
[21:28] <ratrace> sesshomaru: yes, you'll need some iptables juice and SNAT/DNAT magic. I don't know if there's an easy to use GUI for that.
[21:28] <platzhirsch> Bashing-om: no, just jenkins, sorry :-/ http://pkg.jenkins-ci.org/debian/
[21:29] <sesshomaru> ratrace: I can do command line if there's a slight tutorial..
[21:29] <Bashing-om> platzhirsch: 'debian' repo. Not a great thing to do . You are on your own there .
[21:29] <daftykins> sesshomaru: why such a convoluted setup?
[21:30] <platzhirsch> Bashing-om: yeah, that's how they distribute it unfortunately, alright, thanks for the effort
[21:30] <ratrace> sesshomaru: first on google: http://askubuntu.com/questions/320121/simple-port-forwarding
[21:30] <Bashing-om> gsaul: We are here to help . How are you doing ?
[21:30] <sesshomaru> No choice really, live across the property from the router
[21:31] <gsaul> I'm very screwed
[21:31] <gsaul> it is lightdm
[21:31] <gsaul> log files all say it failed, but no indication of why
[21:31] <Bashing-om> platzhirsch: No effort. just not a 'buntu application . Not in our repo under that name . ,, buit as it is 'debian'; I bet we have it .
[21:31] <daftykins> sesshomaru: you don't need to NAT really.
[21:31] <nmg123> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12400535/
[21:32] <Cay> Heya! Have they managed to fix the problems around nvidia and ubu 15.04 yet?
[21:32] <Cay> I'd like to switch over to the proprietary drivers but am not sure if I should step back to 14.04 LTS or not first
[21:33] <sesshomaru> As long as i can still redirect from WiFi, i can't run any cables as it's not really my house
[21:33] <daftykins> 'redirect from wifi' isn't a term i recognise :)
[21:33] <daftykins> get yourself some powerline adapters.
[21:33] <daftykins> also, this query would be best suited to ##networking
[21:34] <Bashing-om> nmg123: " 247.465] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) " so need to identify the chip set, purge what is and install a driver .
[21:34] <sesshomaru> Okay will head over to # networking
[21:35] <daftykins> Bashing-om: FX5700 or so from earlier, not sure if it's still even supported
[21:36] <nmg123> Bashing-om: how do I " purge what is"
[21:37] <nadimsite> I use ubuntu server  on virtual machine
[21:37] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Ouch .. maybe ' open source' is the only option . lemme see what Nvidia has to say .
[21:38] <nmg123> Bashing-om: it is a GeForce FX 5700
[21:39] <daftykins> nmg123: might be game over for 3D accel requiring desktops, might be time for xubuntu and lubuntu alone
[21:39] <Bashing-om> nmg123: Nvidia say the 173 driver /// Are you booted up in the ailing system at this time ?
[21:39] <daftykins> maybe MATE ubuntu too
[21:39] <gnubie> Cay>  today is the first day my 15.04 would install the nvidia drivers from additional drivers. Seems to be working well. I don't do gaming, but google earth is much nicer looking.
[21:39] <Cay> gnubie: cool!
[21:39] <Cay> I'll do a latest pull of all the updates first then
[21:39] <nmg123> Bashing-om: yes
[21:40] <Cay> and pray to a diety (maybe a few) that it doesn't blow up in my face :D (I'd rather not be booting into text mode to purge this, I hate messing with grub)
[21:40] <Bashing-om> nmg123: You may as daftykins afvises have a problem : http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html >> " Note: Support for the 173.14.xx series is discontinued. No further releases from this series are planned. "
[21:41] <gnubie> Cay>  I have a asus laptop with GT 940m
[21:41] <Cay> gnubie: btw what linux kernel are you running? (uname -r)
[21:41] <Bashing-om> nmg123: What release are we worjing withe here ?
[21:41] <nmg123> Bashing-om: Kubuntu 15.04
[21:42] <gnubie> Cay>  3.19.0-28 generic
[21:42] <Cay> sweet, and assuming x86-64?
[21:43] <gnubie> Cay>  yep
[21:43] <nmg123> Bashing-om: it appears to be driver 175.
[21:43] <daftykins> gnubie's is an nvidia optimus setup
[21:43] <daftykins> (obviously)
[21:43] <Bashing-om> nmg123: scary thought . ok what returns from ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' . and I cross my fingers for you .
[21:43] <Cay> gnubie: seriously, thank you.  I assumed I was 64 bit but I may be wrong. Or would it just not install at all?
[21:47] <Bashing-om> nmg123: Then I think it is definitive it is open source as your only option . my optinion .
[21:48] <ikonia> nmg123: you can't install 64bit on a 32bit system
[21:48] <nmg123> ikonia: ok cool
[21:48] <Bashing-om> nmg123: 64 bit will not install on 32 bit hardware .
[21:48] <Cay> ikonia: PAE
[21:48] <ikonia> Cay: no
[21:48] <daftykins> nmg123: you have an Athlon64 or X2 era 64-bit capable system
[21:48] <ikonia> PAE is not installing a 64bit OS on a 32bit system
[21:49] <nmg123> Bashing-om: ok. so how would I get this to work with open-source?
[21:49] <daftykins> judging by the chipset i saw earlier
[21:49] <Cay> it's extending 32->36 but I thought intel chips with PAE support allowed for psuedo 64bit
[21:49] <daftykins> nmg123: i honestly think you are totally out of luck for KDE.
[21:49] <ikonia> Cay: no
[21:49] <ikonia> Cay: that is not installing a 64bit OS on a 32bit chip
[21:50] <nmg123> daftykins: ok. Would it work if I upgraded my graphics card or would that possibly create more issues?
[21:50] <daftykins> yep something new and supported, but that's such an old system i wouldn't consider it worth trying to use a heavy DE such as KDE.
[21:50] <Cay> whoops my mistake then, sorry about that
[21:51] <Bashing-om> nmg123: Before we get to re-install; consider .. 14.04 still has the 173 version driver . Want to install 14.04 ?
[21:51] <nmg123> hmmmmmm... it isn't supported, so probably not.
[21:51] <Guest70982> hello there
[21:51] <nmg123> Bashing-om: daftykins what is a good Ubunbtu DE to use on my system?
[21:52] <Guest70982> My first time here
[21:52] <daftykins> as i mentioned, MATE, lubuntu or xubuntu
[21:52] <Cay> marcelo why the nick change?
[21:52] <Guest70982> Does anybody know a learning english room?
[21:52] <ikonia> ##english
[21:52] <daftykins> Cay: it happens when names are taken already. please stick to the purpose of this channel and not go off topic
[21:52] <Bashing-om> nmg123: Just a thought, it has 173 . Just because Nvidia no longer supports it is not to say it is not stable .
[21:53] <daftykins> Guest70982: that's not the purpose of #ubuntu - it is not a freenode directory
[21:53] <daftykins> !alis | Guest70982 try this
[21:53] <nmg123> daftykins: could I install lxde or xde and then just uninstall KDE or do I have to do a fresh OS install?
[21:53] <jakesyl>  Hey, I'm setting up a vagrant box,  how can I remap a domain (like wordpress.dev to a local private ip)
[21:53] <Bashing-om> nmg123: old hardware, I sure advocate (L)ubuntu .
[21:53] <ikonia> jakesyl: dns or a hostfile
[21:53] <nmg123> Bashing-om: I was talking about Ubuntu 14.04 itself not recieving updates anymore.
[21:53] <ikonia> jakesyl: if you're using vagrant to do dev work, the easy quick option is the host file
[21:54] <Bdubs> hi anyone on able to give me a hand trying to figure out some steam issues?
[21:54] <daftykins> nmg123: yeah, should be plenty of guides online
[21:54] <Bashing-om> nmg123: 14.04 is the current LTS, it is supported 'til April of 2019 .
[21:55] <Bdubs> steam keeps forgetting that my games are installed on a second hdd and i have to mimic the steps of reinstalling to the area where the game is installed to get it to show in my library
[21:55] <daftykins> Bdubs: #ubuntu-steam might help
[21:55] <nmg123> Bashing-om: oh. wel then... possibly. But yeah I think you are right. With old hardware I should probably use Lubuntu
[21:55] <Bdubs> okay thank you
[21:55] <jakesyl> how do I reload my host file?
[21:56] <daftykins> jakesyl: to achieve what?
[21:56] <jakesyl> routing a domain to a private ip
[21:56] <ikonia> jakesyl: it's dnamic
[21:56] <ikonia> dynamic
[21:56] <jakesyl> oh awesome
[21:57] <daftykins> yep should be instant if you got the syntax right
[21:57] <Bashing-om> nmg123: Keep in mind, there is little difference in installing a desk top and using it than installing a release of that desk top environment .
[21:58] <Bashing-om> nmg123: I going to go do lung therapy while you consider the options and what you want to do .
[21:59] <Sedarito> Hi all, I've just installed ubuntu (dual boot with windows) and I can't find a way to boot on ubuntu, i've tried a lot of things i've found on forum (like easyBCD which made thing weirder) but no one is working... Could somebody help please ? (maybe i'm not in the right room, if so i'm sorry)
[22:00] <daftykins> Sedarito: which Windows? was Windows installed as EFI? was ubuntu installed as EFI?
[22:01] <Sedarito> Well that was my first experience with ubuntu so i have to admit I didn't know what EFI was at the time, i know windows have it (i was on 8.1 when installed ubuntu, and now on 10 since it's been some time i can't figure out a way to go on ubuntu) and no idea for ubuntu
[22:02] <daftykins> !efi | Sedarito have a read here see if it jogs your memory
[22:02] <Sedarito> Would be an option to delete ubuntu and re install it, but no clue how to do that aswell... :/
[22:03] <daftykins> above link should help you
[22:03] <Sedarito> Well ubuntu is already installed and i can't log in there, so i won't be able to see if it's in EFI
[22:03] <daftykins> that half doesn't matter, confirming Windows is EFI and what your boot menu looked like when you installed will help
[22:03] <Sedarito> I've already read this topic, but same problem, ubuntu is already in there (with kinda lot of space)
[22:04] <daftykins> pay attention to what i'm saying
[22:04] <Cay> Just for my information, is there a safe way to move (backwards) from 15.04 to 14.04 LTS or is it a back up and reinstall?
[22:04] <daftykins> you cannot downgrade
[22:04] <Cay> :( but I figured as much
[22:04] <Cay> worth asking, thanks
[22:05] <Sedarito> Sorry daftykins, i don't understand what you're saying :/ but i have indeed read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[22:06] <daftykins> Sedarito: #1 confirm your Windows installation is in EFI and not legacy mode. #2 - look at the images in the UEFI help link and confirm whether you booted Ubuntu as EFI or legacy when installing it
[22:06] <daftykins> there is a big difference
[22:08] <Sedarito> Yes I understand that, but i don't know how i booted ubuntu since i just did the first option thinking it won't be a problem afterwords :/
[22:08] <daftykins> but you would have either had white text on the black background, or the logo
[22:08] <daftykins> one way to try is booting it again and see which you see is default
[22:08] <daftykins> also, you're not answering #1
[22:09] <Sedarito> Yes i'm trying to know how to answer your #1 :p
[22:10] <daftykins> Sedarito: boot the ubuntu live session and come back on here
[22:12] <torvic> Is it possible to install ubuntu, or other linux distro (or just an unix terminal, which is all I need) in an iOS device such as iPad?
[22:12] <EriC^^> unix terminal?
[22:12] <Sedarito> But i can't boot it, it's installed and the CD is no longer recognize at booting, and with easyBSD i was able to select whether i wanted to boot windows or ubuntu, but when i try ubuntu it says i have to "insert windows instal CD"... (sorry still trying to know how windows boot)
[22:13] <torvic> EriC^^: yes.
[22:13] <Sedarito> (i'm sorry i'm so very new to this)
[22:13] <EriC^^> torvic: what do you need?
[22:13] <torvic> EriC^^: I need a way to use VIM, GHC (the Haskell compiler) and git on my iPad while my notebook is fixing.
[22:13] <EriC^^> torvic: if you want, you could install a ssh program and ssh to a server and run commands
[22:14] <torvic> I don't have internet on my university.
[22:14] <daftykins> Sedarito: alright well boot windows and share a screenshot of diskmgmt.msc
[22:14] <torvic> EriC^^: also, the SSH typing delay makes it very uncomfortable to work with, unfortunatelly.
[22:14] <igoryonya> I want to upgrade my comp Ubuntu 13.10, it says my version is not supported anymore. Is there a way to do it anyway, without clean install?
[22:16] <Sedarito> hum.. diskmgmt.msc is what i see when asking which os to launch... ?
[22:16] <daftykins> Sedarito: no it's a disk management utility inside Windows
[22:16] <daftykins> !eolupgrade | igoryonya
[22:17] <Sedarito> oh ok, but i have to say i'm affraid to put it in since windows works fine here and ask when trying to lauch ubuntu, will that not be a problem of some sort ?
[22:17] <igoryonya> ubottu: I don't want to keep updating 13.10, I want to upgrade it to 14.4, then after finishing updating to 14.4, chain-update to 14.10, and so on, untill I am up to date.
[22:18] <igoryonya> daftykins: I don't want to keep updating 13.10, I want to upgrade it to 14.4, then after finishing updating to 14.4, chain-update to 14.10, and so on, untill I am up to date.
[22:18] <Ben64> igoryonya: the link the bot gave you is what you want
[22:18] <daftykins> Sedarito: i am asking you to run a windows program inside Windows, do you maybe not speak English? i'm finding this exchange very tedious.
[22:18] <EriC^^> igoryonya: 14.04 is supported til 2019
[22:18] <daftykins> igoryonya: read the second link
[22:19] <Sedarito> i'm actually not english yes but wasn't able to find help anywhere else, and i have to say it seems difficult for me as i don't know well informatic, sorry (i'm actually doing efforts :p)
[22:21] <lilj98> Hello
[22:21] <igoryonya> anyone knows about named stub zone? I've configured a stub zone in bind, but it doesn't seem to transfer the ns or soa info.
[22:21] <daftykins> i think you want a BIND channel :)
[22:21] <daftykins> or DNS / ##networking
[22:22] <Sedarito> i've sent you the screenshot
[22:22] <igoryonya> daftykins: bind channel seems dead, I've asked the question there a while ago, nobody answered, despite the ~120 users logged in
[22:22] <daftykins> and you're aware it's sunday night? :)
[22:23] <daftykins> Sedarito: imgur.com would be better - i don't accept DCC
[22:24] <igoryonya> daftykins: Well, it's monday 10:30am, where I am at :), but anyway, I thought that geeks, like me don't look at weekdays and time :)
[22:24] <Sedarito> ok, 2sec
[22:24] <daftykins> what a terribly sweeping statement!
[22:24] <daftykins> anyway #ubuntu-server or ##networking
[22:24] <daftykins> igoryonya: one other thought, why bother fixing that if it's still 14.10? ;)
[22:24] <daftykins> assuming it's the same system
[22:25] <Sedarito> http://imgur.com/2Rk323f
[22:27] <EriC^^> Sedarito: what's the problem?
[22:27] <daftykins> yep that's EFI alright
[22:27] <daftykins> EriC^^: straight to Windows and no ubuntu, i suspected mismatch install but Sedarito can't remember which mode ubuntu would've installed in
[22:27] <igoryonya> daftykins: no, I have 13.10, sadly, but I will read the link, sent by ubuttu
[22:27] <Sedarito> I feel kinda dumb :3
[22:28] <EriC^^> i think he has ubuntu on disk d? it's using efi
[22:28] <EriC^^> 16gb swap?
[22:28] <EriC^^> c'est ca? :p
[22:28] <Sedarito> Yes it's on D:
[22:28] <daftykins> ooh and two EFIs
[22:28] <EriC^^> Sedarito: press esc when you boot the pc and try to get a boot options or uefi menu, then choose ubuntu, you might need to mess with the efi to get it working after you boot into it
[22:28] <Sedarito> i remeber allowed 666 gb for ubuntu :3 (was kinda excited)
[22:29] <Sedarito> Will that work even with windows 10 ? And i have no idea how to mess with the efi :(
[22:29] <EriC^^> yeah it'll work
[22:29] <EriC^^> i'll try to help
[22:30] <Sedarito> Ok thank you very much, i'll try to reboot and come again if it still doesn't works, thanks again for all the help !
[22:31] <sudoku> hey, I've got Ubuntu in a VM and I'm having some trouble mounting a CD. Anyone wanna help a noob out?
[22:31] <ikonia> why don't you explain the problem
[22:32] <sudoku> well when I try to mount it, I get a "mount: unkown filesystem type 'iso9660' error
[22:32] <ikonia> what command are you using ?
[22:32] <sudoku> mount /dev/sr0 /mnt/vmware
[22:32] <ikonia> and what CD is in that virtual device ?
[22:33] <sudoku> vmware tools
[22:33] <sudoku> an iso image
[22:33] <daftykins> this sounds like a precursor to installing tools which are available in packages and not needed to be done from the ISO
[22:33] <ikonia> I'd actually recommend you don't use the iso - and use the repos
[22:33] <ikonia> vmware tools provides repos
[22:33] <tgm4883> IIRC, the recommended tools are in the repo, not the ISO
[22:33] <daftykins> ^
[22:33] <ikonia> but in answer to your question it sounds like it's not the right format
[22:33] <tgm4883> open-vm-tools I think
[22:34] <sudoku> I'm just used to doing it from the cd, I'll try the repo way I suppose
[22:36] <tgm4883> http://kb.vmware.com/kb/2073803
[22:36] <Sedarito> I again, it only says windows 10 as an option, and when trying to see what is what, i saw i boot on UEFI mode
[22:37] <Sedarito> Hi again*
[22:37] <EriC^^> Sedarito: try to boot an ubuntu live usb
[22:37] <Sedarito> i'm not realy familiar, do you mean boot with the instal cd on ?
[22:38] <EriC^^> yeah, and press try ubuntu
[22:38] <EriC^^> then install an irc client or go to webchat.freenode.net in firefox
[22:39] <Sedarito> I tried earlier, and windows booted as if the cd wasn't there
[22:40] <Sedarito> I'll try again and come back
[22:40] <EriC^^> Sedarito: try disabling fastboot in the bios
[22:40] <Sedarito> yes i already did, and disabled secure boot mode "not sure it was a good idea though)
[22:41] <Sedarito> I should try to get some sleep, i will see if i can do something tomorrow
[22:41] <EriC^^> ok
[22:42] <Sedarito> Thank you for your time and help anyway, that's very cool from you ! Sorry for disturbance :p Good night all and thanks again
[22:42] <EriC^^> no problem
[22:42] <EriC^^> you too
[22:43] <Cay> is there an easier way to figure out a binary related to a package than dpkg -L and looking for /bin ? (right now doing dpkg -L unity-editor | grep bin)
[22:44] <daftykins> what's so hard about that method? :)
[22:44] <EriC^^> Cay: you want to list the binaries of a package or find which package owns a certain binary?
[22:46] <Cay> EriC^^: I want find the binaries it installs
[22:46] <Cay> daftykins: it's 3 gigs worth of files
[22:47] <daftykins> Cay: what is? if you're specifying a package it can't be.
[22:47] <bprompt> Cay:     can't think of an easier way for that, that'd list the files under /bin provided by it, but, that IS what you're trying to do
[22:48] <Cay> the package itself is 1gig (950meg)
[22:48] <Cay> it's unity editor
[22:48] <EriC^^> what's it do?
[22:48] <Cay> http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/unity-on-linux-release-notes-and-known-issues.350256/
[22:48] <Cay> it's a game development format
[22:48] <daftykins> so you're trying to work out how to run it?
[22:49] <Cay> haha yes exactly
[22:49] <Cay> and I'm too embarassed to ask the unity dudes
[22:49] <daftykins> so instead waste our time, interesting
[22:49] <daftykins> so why don't you type 'unity' into the dash / alt+F2 and see which autocompletes? :>
[22:49] <Cay> well asking how to read dpkg info
[22:49] <Cay> is a useful tool for later on
[22:49] <Cay> also daftykins tried that
[22:49] <Ben64> you already know how to read dpkg info
[22:49] <Cay> (well there might be better ways)
[22:50] <Cay> *sigh*
[22:50] <daftykins> i don't really get the problem here
[22:50] <daftykins> you know what you need to do, do it :)
[22:50] <Cay> there is none, this is not the problem you are looking for
[22:51]  * daftykins files this one in the crazy log
[23:01] <somenickasd> Are there any musl toolchains for use on ubuntu?
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> somenickasd  is this useful? scroll down to find ubuntu http://wiki.musl-libc.org/wiki/Projects_using_musl
[23:06] <somenickasd> Monkey ah yes! thank you
[23:40] <veXx> that moment when you been troubleshooting for 3 days... and the stars aligned (youre not sure what you did) and everything starts working... that moment... w00t
[23:41] <daftykins> and yet saying it in the wrong channel, doh!
[23:42] <veXx> no, it was an issue with getting ubuntu to start on and older system
[23:44] <lapinozz> is there a way my program could be notified when a new window is open?
[23:49] <sangwon> w
[23:50] <gh0stpirate> test
[23:52] <sleezio> hello, today i noticed some processes running i don't recall seeing before, google searches on this isn't very informative..can someone tell me the purpose of these processes are? http://i.imgur.com/q3AYkGJ.jpg
[23:53] <lapinozz> is there a way my program could be notified when a new window is open?
[23:53] <sleezio> best i can tell these processes run when you plug a usb device in or iphone(from what google searches are telling me)...but i have neither a usb nor iphone plugged in my box
[23:54] <daftykins> sleezio: yes, auto mounts
[23:55] <daftykins> MTP is your phone for media transfer protocol - although where volume monitor comes from in that context i have no idea :D
[23:58] <badbodh> http://tinyurl.com/ocjwb69
[23:58] <badbodh> sleezio: ^^
[23:58] <badbodh> it's not a virus ;)
[23:59] <fantasma> oi


[02:46] <pauljw> gnite all
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: nihao :p
[06:01] <cfhowlett> hey hey.
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> smart4ss haleluja :p
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> been coming here very day with silly questions
[06:02] <cfhowlett> nah.  silliest question award goes to the guy who asked "Hey!  What hacker software is Mr. Robot using on his ubunut?"
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> 2nd bombing in china cfhowlett ? i hope you dont live near?
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> haha
[06:03] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, tianjin is about 60 miles away so ... "safe".
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> mr robot :p
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> ouch, still not very far
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> howdy lordievader :p
[06:04] <lordievader> Good morning.
[22:26] <ObrienDave> !mint
[22:27] <wileee> lol
[22:28] <ObrienDave> some ding-a-ling asking about mint in #blender ROFL
[22:29] <daftykins> :S
[22:29] <OerHeks> mint is a blender ..
[22:29] <OerHeks> in*
[22:29] <ObrienDave> yea, made no sense to me either LOL
[22:30] <OerHeks> does it fit on a cd?
[22:30] <ObrienDave> nope
[22:30] <ObrienDave> ;P
[22:31] <ObrienDave> blender, yes. mint, no way LOL
[22:49] <Bashing-om> Hey guys, I just worked a Nvidia driver re-install .. and the Nvidia 355 version is now available in the 14.04 repo .
[22:49] <daftykins> :O
[22:52] <OerHeks> not here ..
[22:52] <OerHeks> (15.04)
[22:57] <wileee> Bashing-om, Udita looks like a msdos with gpt sigs in the mbr, at a quick glance, was making some toast,
[23:06] <Bashing-om> wileee: I gt side tracked .. will return .
[23:06] <Bashing-om> Guys " sudo ubuntu-drivers list >> nvidia-355 : woohooo !
[23:07] <wileee> no prob, of course, big HD I just wonder what is there
[23:12] <Bashing-om> wileee: Like you - mixed partitioning schemes; sda as msdos and sdb as GPT - not at all sure how to handle such a situation . If we boot from sda how does grub handle chainloading the OS on the sdb drive in GPT ? I just do not know .
[23:13] <wileee> Bashing-om, Rods has a fix that wipes the gpt, but it is always a risk, http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/wipegpt.html
[23:13] <wileee> never seen it fail on the channel, but I watch my back, lol
[23:14] <wileee> can't tell either if the sdb is a flash
[23:14] <Bashing-om> wileee: Next question in respect to udita, is why does not 'parted' show us the partitioning on the sdb drive ? Humm ..
[23:15] <wileee> if the hd and flash are reversed as well not knowing what all is on either
[23:15] <wileee> sda is huge however
[23:16] <Bashing-om> wileee: Is not the GPT limit at 4 terabytes ? Then that large GPT is required for addressing ?
[23:17] <ObrienDave> gpt limit is something like 128 exabytes
[23:18] <wileee> I thought it was somewhere above 2tb or so was gpt in general, I have two external 2tb hd's both msdos
[23:19] <ObrienDave> 2TB limit for MBR
[23:19] <ObrienDave> above 2TB you need GPT
[23:19] <wileee> Bashing-om, Your point on a uefi/bios is important I believe, I've just not had a uefi to mess with.
[23:20] <wileee> I would normally have the user run the bootinfo script, it helps me anyway.
[23:22] <wileee> anyway coffee time for me, not a big issue other than the data there, that's as close to ocd I go regularly in worrying about.
[23:22] <Bashing-om> wileee: I be in the same boat. I surely hate making an error, and not having direct experience, well I am slow to make a suggestion in respect to GPT/UEFI . Given time, we can muddle through it .// Looks like udita may have got impatient and left ?
[23:23] <wileee> yeah left, lucky us, maybe doing a backup if there lucky
[23:23] <wileee> their*
[23:23] <ObrienDave> they're ;P
[23:25] <wileee> Bashing-om, as far as I know I have never bricked any computer besides my own, I worry about that always, I'm with you on that.
[23:26] <wileee> I'm only protecting my own booty though, always self serving here, ;)
[23:26] <Bashing-om> wileee: Yeah ! .. I got where I am today by breaking my system(s) many many times. I did learn to dual boot and not mess up my work station too much .
[23:48] <Bashing-om> wileee: udita: Does not UEFI system require GPT partition scheme ?


[09:22] <rmg51> Morning
[11:42] <icey> ahoy
[12:14] <teddy-dbear> Morning people, critters and everything else


[02:06] <PCTeacher012> does no one come on here to report bugs?
[02:06] <scream> Bugs are reported to the bug tracker.
[02:06] <scream> Do you need the address?
[02:09] <PCTeacher012> nah, im on the site now, i was just wondering why no one came on here, thinking ppl would report bugs so i could help
[02:09] <PCTeacher012> maybe lol
[02:11] <Kangarooo> i want to try 5a day
[02:12] <Kangarooo> im not a developer but i could try..
[02:12] <Kangarooo> i could do 5 a day in marketing team..
[02:13] <Kangarooo> one bug i want to make is witch is listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/BugsForExtraPoints  #1 bug windows
[02:13] <Kangarooo> so give me hugs as im going to make windows wanish :)
[02:36] <PCTeacher012> Do we discuss bugs here? Point of this chatroom is that? :)
[02:39] <Kangarooo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/BugsForExtraPoints   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day
[02:44] <Hew> PCTeacher012: We discuss how to triage bugs.
[02:45] <Kangarooo> triage?
[02:45] <Kangarooo> foundin dictionary :)
[02:46] <PCTeacher012> Hew: Triage? Lol
[02:46] <Hew> PCTeacher012: lol
[02:47] <Hew> PCTeacher012: Maybe you should read the links in the topic
[02:47] <PCTeacher012> which one? :)
[02:49] <Hew> PCTeacher012: ...Read them http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs
[02:53] <PCTeacher012> thank you Hew
[02:53] <Hew> PCTeacher012: No problem
[07:00] <JanC> meh, there is a bug in the apport retracing service where it invalidates crash reports because i don't have scroolkeeper installed?
[07:04] <JanC> this probably means that a lot of other crasher bugs have been automaticly invalidated too...  :-(
[07:51] <JanC> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/355481
[12:38] <Guest35917> Hi all.. I'm facing a bug in kubuntu, and I find on google people having it on ubuntu also.. "unknown" X entries in xrestop output quickly proliferate and I can no more start X applications..
[12:39] <Guest35917> I can't find a fix on google for it
[12:39] <Guest35917> can someone give me some pointer please?
[12:39] <Guest35917> is it a xorg bug?
[12:53] <Guest35917> some further google search points me to a gnome-screensaver bug, but I don't believe it because i can reproduce on KDE, and to a xloadimage bug
[12:53] <Guest35917> someone knows anything about this?
[12:57] <Guest35917> Also it seems that other distributions have this bug (fedora, gentoo). Is seems the bug has been assigned to several different applications, thinking they was not releasing X resources..
[13:05] <mnemo> sry never heard of anything like that
[13:05] <mnemo> open a bug in LP and use "ubuntu-bug xorg" to do it so it auto attaches all the logs
[13:05] <mnemo> also attach screenshots of xrestop showing the problem etc so people understand what the issue is
[13:08] <Guest35917> what is LP? can you provide me a link where to post the bug?
[13:08] <Guest35917> please
[13:09] <mnemo> I mean launchpad.net (LP)
[13:10] <Guest35917> ok
[13:10] <Guest35917> thanks
[13:10] <mnemo> however
[13:10] <mnemo> if you run the command "ubuntu-bug xorg" in a terminal
[13:10] <mnemo> then it will file a bug on LP but it will also auto include lots of info/logs etc
[13:10] <Guest35917> oh ok
[13:10] <Guest35917> going to do it.
[13:10] <Guest35917> thank you a lot
[13:10] <Guest35917> hmmm
[13:10] <Guest35917> does not work
[13:10] <Guest35917> root@deathstart:/home/andrea# ubuntu-bug xorg
[13:10] <Guest35917> Maximum number of clients reached: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[13:11] <mnemo> aah you're in a ssh shell?
[13:11] <Guest35917> no
[13:11] <Guest35917> this is the bug I was talking about
[13:11] <Guest35917> I can no more
[13:11] <Guest35917> run X applications
[13:11] <Guest35917> because
[13:11] <mnemo> aaah lol : ok thats unfortunately
[13:11] <Guest35917> X resources finishs
[13:11] <mnemo> yea
[13:11] <mnemo> hmm
[13:12] <Guest35917> and before they reach 255
[13:12] <Guest35917> I can see them increasing quickily
[13:12] <Guest35917> with xrestop
[13:12] <mnemo> try using "apport-cli -f -p xorg" instead?
[13:12] <mnemo> does that work?
[13:13] <Guest35917> seems it does something.. At least it is running..
[13:13] <Guest35917> yes, it is uploading problem informations..
[13:13] <mnemo> sweet
[13:14] <mnemo> make sure you add more info to the bug though because it cant automatically attach useful things like a screenshot of the xrestop thing
[13:14] <mnemo> and also the error you get trying to launch x.org apps etc
[13:15] <mnemo> anyway, in case you ever need it... the manual way to report ubuntu bugs to to use this URL: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+filebug
[13:15] <Guest35917> ok
[13:15] <mnemo> and then manually attack xorg.log, dmesg and what not
[13:15] <Guest35917> will the apport-cli
[13:15] <Guest35917> ask me to attach stuff?
[13:16] <mnemo> i think it will automatically attach the kinds of log files that is needed to debug bugs in the package you specified (xorg in this case)
[13:16] <mnemo> but I usually use the "ubuntu-bug xorg" command
[13:16] <mnemo> so I never tried the apport way
[13:16] <Guest35917> but not the xrestop screenshot... hmm maybe I will file a bug by hand..
[13:16] <mnemo> yeah
[13:17] <mnemo> for this particular bug I think its useful to attach /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsession-errors in particular
[13:17] <Guest35917> ok
[13:17] <mnemo> and it might also be useful to reboot the machine with "ModeDebug" set to true in xorg.conf
[13:18] <Guest35917> Ah...
[13:18] <mnemo> if you're running xorg in ModeDebug then it puts more info into xorg.log that usual
[13:18] <Guest35917> this is a very good info to know..
[13:18] <mnemo> i have to make lunch now
[13:19] <mnemo> cya
[13:19] <mnemo> :)
[13:19] <Guest35917> thank you a lot
[13:19] <Guest35917> good lunch
[13:19] <Guest35917> byr
[13:19] <Guest35917> bye
[13:28] <BUGabundo> guud afternoon everyone
[13:30] <mnemo> hi BUGabundo :)
[13:31] <BUGabundo> hey mnemo
[14:50] <Pfiffer> Is python 2.6 bugged in the new Jaunty updates?
[14:58] <BUGabundo> Pfiffer: why do you ask?
[15:00] <BUGabundo> hggdh: ping
[15:00] <Pfiffer> Was just looking at this one bug report, and I thought I'd heard something about it earlier.
[15:02] <pleia2> Pfiffer: yes there were some issues
[15:02] <Pfiffer> Ah, okay, thanks BUGabundo.
[15:02] <Pfiffer> and pleia2 >_>
[15:02] <Pfiffer> Im tired.
[15:03] <pleia2> they've worked on them, but if you still see problems that haven't been reported, you should :)
[15:04] <pleia2> related: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-April/thread.html#28039
[15:51] <BUGabundo> can some one triage bug 355671 ?
[16:11] <qense> I think someone marked bug 155201 wrongly as a security risk.
[16:12] <qense> Especially considering the fact that the person who changed it uses an @msn.com mail address as account name.
[16:13] <greg-g> qense: yeah, I would undo that.
[16:13] <greg-g> also, but, it is closed, so it doesn't really matter
[16:13] <greg-g> erm, s/also, but,/but,/
[16:14] <qense> ok
[16:14] <qense> should the account be reported?
[16:15] <greg-g> why?
[16:15] <qense> he makes invalid changes
[16:16] <qense> would you, being an new user of LP, accidentiatly mark a bug as a security risk?
[16:16] <qense> It took me a while before I actually found that option.
[16:16] <greg-g> it is their first action
[16:17] <greg-g> and it doesn't have a negative effect on anyone (I'm confused how you found this bug since it was marked invalid in November, actually).
[16:17] <hggdh> BUGabundo, pong
[16:17] <qense> I'm still subscribed to it ;)
[16:18] <greg-g> qense: ah :)
[16:18] <greg-g> that makes sense :)
[16:19] <qense> well, we'll see if the user is going to react on the change
[16:19] <greg-g> well, this was done over a week ago, and they haven't done anything else, so I wouldn't worry about it.  There are many more people who make more unneeded changes on bugs.
[16:19] <qense> ok
[16:21] <hggdh> but it is interesting, why would one mark as a security risk an invalid bug?
[16:22] <qense> yeah
[16:22] <qense> that's what's bugging me
[16:24] <hggdh> well, this seems to be the only bug touched by this user. Let's consider a mistake on experimenting, at least right now
[16:25] <greg-g> yeah, no big deal
[17:03] <savvas> has anyone noticed an open bug about nautilus not being able to sort properly?
[17:03] <BUGabundo> nope
[17:06] <dtchen> how so? what sorting semantics in what context?
[17:08] <savvas> hold a sec
[17:09] <savvas> dtchen: http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=44385
[17:10] <savvas> "ls -1" sorts it fine however: http://paste.ubuntu.com/144997/
[17:12] <Laibsch> Hi
[17:12] <Laibsch> Anybody willing to push bug 355714?  It's ready to be uploaded.
[17:20] <andol> Regarding bug #325393. What do you do when you've reported a bug upstream, but there is no info in Launchpad on how to use "Also affects project" for that particular package?
[17:24] <james_w> andol: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntop/+bug/325393/+affects-new-product
[17:24] <savvas> hm.. this sorting problems seems a locale/utf8 problem
[17:25] <james_w> I typed ntop in to the search box an d it offered that
[17:30] <andol> james_w: Of course, thanks.
[18:12] <savvas> wheow, done: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=578048 - I just hope it's correct :)
[18:58] <hggdh> savvas, there was a thread on coreutils just a few ago about that
[19:39] <BUGabundo1> where is the bug help gnome IRC #?
[19:39] <BUGabundo1> I'm trying to get urgent feed back on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577893
[19:40] <BUGabundo1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/353444
[19:47] <hggdh> BUGabundo1, help on Gnome bugs is at #bugs, at irc.gnome.org
[19:47] <BUGabundo1> thanks
[19:47] <hggdh> BUGabundo1, this is generic help on bugs
[19:47] <BUGabundo1> hea.. there recommendation lead me to create 700MiBs logs
[20:34] <savvas> hggdh: Are there any plans for the sort to be fixed? and.. do you happen to have a link handy? :)
[21:02] <Ienorand> Hello, regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/284377 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/291449 would it be better to mark the latter one as a dupe (even though it's older), since we've got more info on the former, also... I was going to mark it confirmed against network-manager and invalid vs kernel...
[21:03] <Ienorand> Comments on that?
[21:06] <hggdh> savvas, let me get the links. Please note that this relates to 'ls' usage, and 'sort' (the coreutils utilities)
[21:07] <hggdh> savvas, http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2009-03/msg00090.html
[21:09] <savvas> hggdh: awesome! thank you very very much!
[21:09] <hggdh> savvas, welcome. Please note that a lot has changed from coreutils 6.10 (Jaunty) and current 7.2
[21:10] <hggdh> Ienorand, if the newer bug has more applicable data than the old, then no problem in marking the old one a dup of the newer
[21:10] <savvas> ok - I'll just follow that thread :)
[21:21] <ubuntunewkid> can somebody help me?
[21:22] <ubuntunewkid> i use ubuntu 9.04 beta on virtual pc 2007 sp1 and there is no sound...i know thats a problem with ubuntu but i dont know how to fix it
[21:22] <BUGabundo1> ubuntunewkid: what's up?
[21:23] <ubuntunewkid> my sound card is on-board
[21:23] <BUGabundo1> why is it a prob with ubuntu?
[21:23] <BUGabundo1> do you have a LP bug or it?
[21:23] <ubuntunewkid> i have no idea why
[21:23] <ubuntunewkid> ask the developers of ubuntu
[21:23] <BUGabundo1> well actually it sound like a MSFT Virtual box prob
[21:23] <BUGabundo1> the onboard card has nothing to do with it
[21:24] <BUGabundo1> since Ubuntu only see the emulated on from VPC
[21:24] <ubuntunewkid> ok
[21:24] <ubuntunewkid> ...wait, i can change the settings in vpc, so...
[21:24] <ubuntunewkid> other than the sound, ubuntu 9.04 beta works great!
[21:25] <ubuntunewkid> some developers clearly went to great heights to get this release going strong
[21:25] <ubuntunewkid> i only use vpc, so i dont have to dedicate my pc to the beta 9.04
[21:26] <BUGabundo1> not many users on +1 have audio prob, at this moment
[21:26] <BUGabundo1> either you have a new bug, or it is related to MSFT VPC
[21:26] <ubuntunewkid> i think its related to msft vpc...but ill check
[21:26] <BUGabundo1> file it on launchpad, and let the audio team triage
[21:26] <BUGabundo1> $ ubuntu-bug pulseaudio
[21:26] <ubuntunewkid> thanks for the tip
[21:26] <BUGabundo1> you will also need to run the alsa script
[21:27] <BUGabundo1> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh
[21:27] <ubuntunewkid> ok, thanks
[21:33] <torkiano> hello, what is tha package of bug #346083? libpam-fprint (http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/libpam-fprint) ?
[21:33] <torkiano> or another related to gnome?
[21:36] <dtchen> gnome-control-center, probably
[21:41] <hggdh> yes indeed
[21:41] <torkiano> Ubuntu has not support "out-of-the-box" for this Gnome 2.26 feature?
[21:42] <hggdh> torkiano, the last comment sort of sets the expectation (unreleased version of libusb)
[21:43] <hggdh> so... I really doubt it will make it into Jaunty
[21:43] <torkiano> hggdh: I see, thank you, I've changed the packge and confirmed the bug
[21:44] <hggdh> oh, BTW -- you can always try dpkg -S <path> to find which package has this <path>
[21:45] <hggdh> for example, dpkg -S gnome-about-me
[21:45] <hggdh> and then you figure out which of the packages might be the correct one
[21:47] <torkiano> hggdh: thank you for the tip. Can you set the importance of the bug, please?
[21:53] <hggdh> torkiano, what is the importance you would like?
[21:57] <torkiano> hggdh: I'd like high importance ;-), but reading  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance I think medium importance is good (problem with a non-essential hardware component)
[21:58] <hggdh> torkiano, hum. We are depending on a not-yet-released library. Wouldn't "Wishlist" be better? You can add in a comment stating why you consider it high-importance
[22:01] <torkiano> hggdh: yes, you are rigth. Maybe a "wishlist" importance would be better
[22:02] <hggdh> torkiano, done. Thank you.
[22:14] <BUGabundo> doko: ping
[22:14] <BUGabundo> python2.5 (2.5.4-1ubuntu4) jaunty; urgency=low
[22:14] <BUGabundo> what was this python update about?
[22:15] <BUGabundo> can't it be the root of my python installers probs?
[22:19] <BUGabundo> bye everyone


[14:33] <coobra> can i get uxterm to work with alt - a +++  and not esc + a +++ ?
[17:56] <abeautifulmime> hello
[17:56] <abeautifulmime> i'm running lubuntu off of a usb live drive
[17:56] <abeautifulmime> i started to get one or two system crashes
[17:57] <abeautifulmime> now i am getting crashes in all kinds of programs
[17:57] <abeautifulmime> and for most commands in the terminal i'm getting an input/output error
[17:57] <abeautifulmime> how can i fix this ?
[17:57] <abeautifulmime> and by all kinds of programs i mean pidginm firefox etc
[17:58] <bioterror> sounds more like a problem with the usb drive
[17:58] <abeautifulmime> can it be fixed
[17:58] <abeautifulmime> or do i need to reinstall ?
[17:59] <bioterror> well. is it a presistant installation?
[17:59] <bioterror> persistent
[17:59] <abeautifulmime> no
[17:59] <abeautifulmime> there is no persistence configured
[18:19] <abeautifulmime> hi
[19:02] <abeautifulmime> hello
[19:02] <abeautifulmime> im having major problems with my usb live lubuntu drive
[19:02] <abeautifulmime> when i restqrt the mqchine i get q bunch of squash fs errors
[19:03] <abeautifulmime> when using lubuntu i get random crashes
[19:03] <abeautifulmime> and input/output error
[19:04] <abeautifulmime> when trying to use commands in shell
[19:04] <abeautifulmime> hoz can i resolve this issue
[19:04] <abeautifulmime> must i reinstall the usb
[19:04] <abeautifulmime> or can i repair
[19:48] <taserman21> Hello