[09:19] <FlyingPoop> what posix mean?
[09:19] <nbkr> lufis, Is there a parent process of that zombie? A process that create the zombie process? If so, try to kill that proces (if it isn't init of course).
[09:19] <soundray> Crozar: both package installers are equivalent
[09:19] <lufis> nbkr: I dunno, it's wxvlc
[09:19] <FlyingPoop> POSIX <- what this means?
[09:19] <Crazytom> are there always this many people in here now?
[09:20] <whonicca> ebirtaid, yeah a readme on how to use it, nothing on how to build it
[09:20] <lufis> nbkr: I was using it to stream a v4l capture, and maybe that messed it up
[09:20] <soundray> jandshog: bash depends on base-files, debianutils, libc6 and libncurses5
[09:20] <Crozar> soundray: mplayer doesnt have a convert thing on theoptions
[09:20] <ebirtaid> I'm not sure then, I dont know enough about compiling errors to see what that means
[09:20] <nbkr> FlyingPoop, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX
[09:20] <NeanT> what GUI tool should I use in Ubuntu for Internet connection sharing ?
[09:20] <soundray> Crozar: that's why I say use the -ao option
[09:20] <Crozar> soundray: mplayer = mplayer movie?
[09:20] <kitche> FlyingPoop: it's a collection or standards
[09:21] <kitche> s/or/of/
[09:21] <foxiness> Crazytom: its free to come any time to see that by ur self :)
[09:21] <whonicca> ebirtaid, sorry for wasting ur time, just opened up the install file and it requires me to modify makefile which is way over my head right now
[09:21] <soundray> Crozar: start by running 'mplayer -ao help' (hint: PCM)
[09:21] <whonicca> guess thats why it hasnt been compiling right
[09:21] <FlyingPoop> POSIX is unix??
[09:21] <ebirtaid> hehe prolly
[09:21] <FlyingPoop> POSIX is unix like systems?
[09:21] <kitche> FlyingPoop: no
[09:21] <Crozar> soundray: i dont understand that -ao help ? is this for terminal ?
[09:21] <nbkr> lufis, pstree can show you what the parent process is.
[09:21] <soundray> Crozar: yes
[09:22] <rockets> FlyingPoop, a lot of POSIX complient systems are UNIX like, but I guess they wouldn't have to be
[09:22] <Crozar> command not found soundray
[09:22] <whonicca> well where are ubuntu pci.ids files located
[09:22] <reber> stefg, any other ideas ?
[09:22] <kitche> FlyingPoop: it's more of an -offtopic discussions anyways
[09:22] <soundray> Crozar: then you'll have to install mplayer
[09:22] <whonicca> think thats all i need to edit =)
[09:22] <reber> !mrxvt
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mrxvt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <Crazytom> foxiness, I haven't been in here in a few months.  I don't remember there being over 1000 people in here since feisty was first released
[09:22] <vanberge> anybody know anything about silverlight or moonlight for ubuntu?  :-/
[09:22] <what_if> where in ubuntu do you put iptables statements that apply on ever boot ?
[09:22] <nbkr> FlyingPoop, I think even Windows NT is POSIX Compatible.
[09:22] <soundray> !info mrxvt | reber
[09:22] <ubotu> reber: mrxvt: lightweight multi-tabbed X terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.2-2 (feisty), package size 130 kB, installed size 344 kB
[09:22] <bulmer> NeanT: you can use gksudo to edit the /etc/network/interfaces
[09:23] <Crozar> ok just finished installing ;) soundray now i see the help options so do i use pcm file writer audio output ?
[09:23] <Crozar> soundray:
[09:23] <kitche> vanberge: how can their be any information on moonlight on ubuntu if they are still porting it over?
[09:23] <reber> soundray, exactly, that's it ! Do you know why it doesn't display accents correctly ?
[09:23] <FlyingPoop> why does 'sudo apt-get install clam' not work if i want to install clam antivirus?
[09:23] <soundray> Crozar: hey, why ask when you can try?
[09:23] <soundray> reber: no, sorry, never used it
[09:23] <kitche> FlyingPoop: it's clamav
[09:23] <Crozar> because i want something easier like movie maker soundray something i can cut paste ect.. but not like this how will people come to ubuntu like this tell me ?
[09:24] <kitche> !clamav | FlyingPoop
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clamav - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <reber> bad, use it, mrxvt isn't bloated like konsole or the gnome console thing
[09:24] <peertje888> exit
[09:24] <FlyingPoop> kitch ok
[09:24] <soundray> FlyingPoop: because the package is called clamav
[09:24] <soundray> reber: I don't have resource constraints, so I use gnome-terminal and don't have accent problems :)
[09:24] <Crozar> never mind soundray , for now please tell me how to take duration :30 seconds to 1minute and 10 seconds so i can make a ring tone for my mobile phone
[09:24] <datelus> hey. Whats the closest torrent client to utorrent for ubuntu? The first thing that comes in your mind.. just name it. need a client, if i couldnt find one ill use the same with wine
[09:25] <vanberge> kitche,  the fact that it is being ported over is information for me...  I didnt know anything about it
[09:25] <foxiness> Crazytom: me too,:) coz i still remember when i start using ubuntu when there < 400 ppl
[09:25] <kitche> vanberge: you didn't know silverlight is being ported to linux? but you knew the name of the port?
[09:25] <Siph0n> datelus: dont they have utorrent for linux? :) so thats the closest i guess ;)
[09:25] <dmulligan> Which is the best channel to join to talk about gutsy?
[09:25] <tatters> sudo ifconfig wlan gives me error -->SIOCSIFFLAGS: No buffer space available
[09:26] <Crozar> soundray:  :)
[09:26] <LadyNikon> dmulligan: #ubuntu+1
[09:26] <vanberge> kitche, yes i knew it was being ported... i asked about UBUNTU, not moonlight itself
[09:26] <dmulligan> LadyNikon Thanks
[09:26] <LadyNikon> dmulligan: you can also check the topic
[09:26] <soundray> Crozar: look, I've held your hand converting ram to wav and I've pointed you to audacity. Now you are going to have to show some initiative. And don't use this channel for any kind of advocacy please.
[09:26] <LadyNikon> dmulligan: np
[09:26] <datelus> Siph0n: i met Torrent ;)
[09:26] <Crozar>  ok tell me how to convert soundray
[09:26] <kitche> vanberge: umm who knows when since it's still being ported probably won't be talked about for months
[09:26] <soundray> Crozar: initiative!
[09:27] <Siph0n> datelus: me too? lol
[09:27] <bulmer> tatters did you try wlan0 and not just wlan ?
[09:27] <tatters> bulmer: wlan: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[09:28] <datelus> ok ill just use wine :D
[09:28] <stiev3> I compiled and installed a program, then compiled it again with different settings.  Do I need to remove the previous installation before I install this new version?
[09:28] <bulmer> tatters does that device exist really?
[09:28] <Siph0n> i guess not, my bad
[09:28] <tatters> bulmer: test@test-laptop:~$ sudo ifconfig wlan0 upSIOCSIFFLAGS: No buffer space available
[09:28] <kitche> stiev3: no
[09:29] <bulmer> tatters go see /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf  is wlan0 on the list?
[09:29] <jandshog> redneck: any more ideas?
[09:29] <redneck> yes
[09:29] <gaspar> Hello, I'm trying to install netbeans from the binaries downloaded at sun's website, but the installer says: can't find JVM. The thing is that the JVM is on my system. Do I have a way to tell the installer where is the JVM
[09:29] <redneck> jandshog: check if ksh works, check if dependencies have been broken
[09:30] <redneck> jandshog: if this fails, save port, music and settings and reinstall
[09:30] <bulmer> gaspar  man update-alternatives
[09:30] <noxiousrao> hi everyone
[09:30] <kitche> gaspar: maybe but depends if the installer has an option but if jre being used by default on your install?
[09:30] <Crozar> soundray: ailed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.
[09:30] <soundray> Crozar: ignore it
[09:30] <gaspar> bulner: thnkx I will try that
[09:31] <foxiness> gaspar: yes there are "i have this problem on the past"
[09:31] <foxiness> gaspar: but now i can not informed u where :)
[09:31] <tatters> bulmer: I have /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/wlano and lots of files inside
[09:31] <jandshog> redneck: it looks like ksh isn't installed on this system, but sh is. apt-get check doesn't return any problems.
[09:31] <jandshog> sh works fine
[09:31] <redneck> reinstall bash
[09:32] <kitche> jandshog: by the way sh is symlinked to dash it's not sh really
[09:32] <redneck> do a purge and reinstall
[09:32] <soundray> jandshog: sh is dash by default. What is the actual problem?
[09:32] <bulmer> tatters it is not wlano its wlan0
[09:32] <etale> how can one change the font size of a tty, outside of X?
[09:32] <stefg> reber: http://materm.sourceforge.net/wiki/FAQ/Tips i was right with my first shot. mrxvt isn't utf8 capable... rfeading the faq instead of making assumptions would have saved you a lot of time
[09:32] <Crozar> soundray: thank you :)
[09:32] <nas> hi everybody
[09:33] <Crozar> soundray: problem now i dont hear nothing lol my comoputer got muted
[09:33] <soundray> etale: on boot, via the vga= boot option
[09:33] <jandshog> soundray: Bash segfaults on launch//login.
[09:33] <MasterAslan> removed it and it removed a massive amount of stuf...know if I can just do an update to get it all back?
[09:33] <soundray> Crozar: don't expect to hear anything when you convert a file
[09:33] <rainwalker> Is this the channel to ask purely compiz(fusion)-related questions, not necessarily ubuntu-related?
[09:33] <redneck> etale: stty
[09:33] <Crozar> soundray: huh!?
[09:33] <soundray> jandshog: can you do a strace bash?
[09:34] <Crozar> soundray: i mean nothign works now lol all sound isdisabled i rthink maybe i need to restart? or what is this a bug>
[09:34] <kitche> rainwalker: no that would be #compizfusion for general compiz questions
[09:34] <jandshog> redneck: reinstalling bash with apt-get --reinstall install bash, apt-get tells me a subprocess segfaults.
[09:34] <nas> jest ktos z Polski ??
[09:34] <foxiness> MasterAslan: reinstall ubuntu-desktop it will tack care of the rest
[09:34] <anarkia99> hi
[09:34] <rainwalker> kitche: okay, thank you very much
[09:34] <tatters> bulmer:  wlan0 sry not wlao
[09:34] <MasterAslan> thanks..didn't want to have to do another clean install
[09:34] <jandshog> soundray: yes: http://pastebin.com/m17f55b86
[09:34] <redneck> jandshog: download the package manually and run dpkg from another shell
[09:34] <tatters> I am typing wlan0 and the folder is called wlan0
[09:34] <mr_wang> HOW DO I INSTALL UT2004 ON TO UBUNTU?
[09:35] <stefg> !CAPS
[09:35] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:35] <nas> hhehe
[09:35] <bulmer> tatters  which chip is yours for the wifi?
[09:35] <anarkia99> help me for wusbg54g?
[09:35] <reber> stefg, "At the current time mrxvt does not fully support UTF-8"  _*but*_ it works fine with accents in gentoo, then ... why ... ?
[09:35] <nas> who can help ? problem with EKG
[09:35] <arcil> when i upgrade to gutsy now and i will update my system when 7.10 is finally released will i have any disadvantages?
[09:35] <Crozar> soundray: sorry i dont know why but volume of the player was on lowest
[09:35] <stefg> reber: no idea, gento might use a patched or cvs version
[09:35] <Crozar> soundray: working :) thanks mate , you saved my day
[09:35] <tatters> bulmet its usb with railink chipset
[09:35] <kitche> arcil: no
[09:35] <reber> maybe ... sigh...
[09:36] <arcil> kitche: thank you
[09:36] <rainwalker> kitche: is that channel on irc.freenode?
[09:36] <bulmer> tatters make sure the driver for it is loaded
[09:36] <what_if> anyone run IPtables on ubuntu? what program do you use to apply rules at boot
[09:36] <kitche> rainwalker: yes #compiz-fusion forgot the dash :)
[09:36] <foxiness> arcil: i think not ,not that diff on less than 7 days :)
[09:36] <Flare183> what_if:> firestarter is a good idea
[09:36] <soundray> !firestarter | what_if
[09:36] <ubotu> what_if: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:36] <ikonia> what_if: you have to write your own init script, its quite straight forward
[09:37] <rainwalker> kitche: ah, that explains it, thank you :)
[09:37] <ikonia> what_if: keep it simple, 3rd party applications are a risk
[09:37] <noxiousrao> m using Edgy 6.10 and totally new to linux, so is there any way of upgrading to 7.10 without remove this 6.10?
[09:37] <redneck> what_if: there's a script which runs at boot time in /etc/init.d. It looks for the exported rules in /etc somewhere. Do some digging in the boot script
[09:37] <ikonia> redneck: there isnt' a script - you have to write one of get an application to generate one for you
[09:38] <pitecantropu> please, can anyone hear the melody  http://www.radio3net.ro/artisti.php?cx=details&id=27#p_player765  thanks!
[09:38] <redneck> or write one
[09:38] <ikonia> !offtopic pitecantropu
[09:38] <kitche> noxiousrao: you have to update to 7.04 before 7.10 gksu update-manager then refresh and it should say new release and update to feisty
[09:38] <ikonia> redneck: I said the words "you have to write one"
[09:38] <Crozar> ikonia: if i buy support can they make the scripts for me?
[09:38] <redneck> semantics
[09:38] <ikonia> Crozar: I'm sure they may do
[09:38] <redneck> Crozar: pay me.
[09:38] <Crozar> awesome
[09:38] <what_if> redneck: will prob write one, firestarter is GUI,,, no GUI on my server
[09:38] <what_if> tnx!
[09:39] <cursor> hey wondering if i can have some help with the 7.10 beta , i have a problem with dhcp reuests
[09:39] <pitecantropu> ikonia, how you know?
[09:39] <ikonia> pitecantropu: how do I know what ?
[09:39] <jrib> cursor: gutsy help in #ubuntu+1
[09:39] <redneck> what_if: or you could take it from redhat
[09:39] <soundray> cursor: the 7.10 experts are in #ubuntu+1
[09:39] <cursor> okay thanks
[09:39] <ikonia> redneck: no nyou can't as the "function" include does not exist on ubuntu
[09:39] <cursor> so the channels #ubuntu+1
[09:39] <redneck> you get the function too
[09:39] <noxiousrao> kitche: thanks, but what if want to upgrde from a CD?
[09:40] <ikonia> redneck: and it breaks your init system
[09:40] <redneck> then you edit out the function crap
[09:40] <kitche> noxiousrao: get the alternative cd and it has an upgrade option
[09:40] <ikonia> redneck: so just write your owbn
[09:40] <ikonia> own
[09:40] <redneck> probably faster
[09:40] <soundray> !language | redneck
[09:40] <ubotu> redneck: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:40] <masko> yasin
[09:41] <masko> hi
[09:41] <vsayikiran> how to use ntp behind proxy servers
[09:41] <ikonia> vsayikiran: I don't know if there is a "proxy" option in the config, I don't think it works like that
[09:41] <ikonia> vsayikiran: ntp servers are supposed to be on the same network
[09:42] <nas> jest ktos z Polski ??
[09:42] <soundray> !pl | nas
[09:42] <ubotu> nas: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:42] <mr_wang> how do i change a file permission that needs me to be ROOT?
[09:42] <ikonia> mr_wang: use sudo
[09:42] <vsayikiran> ikonia: i am getting net from proxy server , so i think ntp is not running, same problem in windows
[09:42] <mr_wang> how do i use sudo?
[09:42] <stefg> !sudo
[09:42] <ikonia> vsayikiran: "the net" is not ntp - ntp works different
[09:42] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:43] <vsayikiran> mr_wang: man suod
[09:43] <soundray> vsayikiran: what do you need ntp for?
[09:43] <vsayikiran> soundray: for sync time with ntp servers
[09:44] <hans_> jff
[09:44] <ikonia> vsayikiran: which ntp servers ?
[09:44] <vlt> Hello. What else than `pumount` happens when I choose "remove securely" for removable (usb) device?
[09:44] <vsayikiran> ikonia: so is there a way to sync with ntp servers behind a proxy server
[09:44] <kbrooks> question.
[09:44] <soundray> vsayikiran: don't use ntp for that, use ntpdate. It's standard in ubuntu, you probably don't have to do anything.
[09:44] <vsayikiran> ikonia: those ntp servers in time config window
[09:44] <ikonia> vsayikiran I don't think so, ntp servers are supposed to be on the same network
[09:44] <hans_> germany needs help
[09:45] <ikonia> vsayikiran: why do you wan tto sync with ntp from the internet if no other mahines you use are syncing from the internet time servers ?
[09:45] <kbrooks> my video card and monitor are not detected properly
[09:45] <kbrooks> how do i fix this?
[09:45] <ikonia> vsayikiran what is your need to get the time from the internet
[09:45] <soundray> ikonia: common misunderstanding
[09:45] <hans_> i search a installed software
[09:45] <ikonia> soundray: pardon ?
[09:45] <soundray> ikonia: people thing they need ntp
[09:45] <vsayikiran> soundray: i tried ntpdate -u servername, but failed
[09:45] <soundray> *think
[09:45] <ikonia> soundray: ahhh yes
[09:45] <gaspar> I need some help making my laptop card reader to work
[09:45] <nbkr> hans_, Es gibt nen deutschen Ubuntu Channel: #ubuntu-de
[09:45] <ikonia> vsayikiran: yes, because your on a private network
[09:46] <hans_> wo?
[09:46] <soundray> vsayikiran: try 'date ; sudo /etc/if-up.d/ntpdate ; date'
[09:46] <hans_> bin ein nuer linux
[09:46] <hans_> neuer
[09:46] <nbkr> hans_, #ubuntu-de
[09:46] <soundray> vsayikiran: sorry, wrong
[09:46] <kbrooks> my video card and monitor are not detected properly. how to fix??????????????????????????????????
[09:46] <hans_> danke nbkr
[09:46] <jballadares> thank you for providing this tech support! - sent from san francisco, CA teachers for social justice conf here!
[09:46] <jandshog> redneck: I've looked at packages.ubuntu.com, but I can't find a .deb of bash, only tar.gz. am I looking in the wrong place?
[09:46] <kbrooks> cmon i want desktop effects!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:46] <ikonia> kbrooks: your spamming the chanel, you've been here long enough to know thats not allowed
[09:46] <vsayikiran> soundray: then whats the right!!
[09:46] <ikonia> kbrooks: stop now
[09:46] <ikonia> !patience >kbrooks
[09:46] <soundray> vsayikiran: try 'date ; sudo /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate ; date'
[09:47] <kbrooks> seriously though.
[09:47] <ikonia> jandshog: bash is installed
[09:47] <ikonia> kbrooks: seriously - stop
[09:47] <vsayikiran> soundray: do i have to run exactly the same way you have written
[09:47] <kbrooks> ikonia, if you haven't noticed, i stopped. but i would like help.
[09:47] <vsayikiran> soundray: why that ';' is required
[09:48] <redneck> jandshog: on the cd?
[09:48] <soundray> vsayikiran: no, the leading and trailing 'date' commands are only to show you the system time before and after the ntpdate command
[09:48] <ikonia> kbrooks: I get that, be patient. You've been here long enough to know how it works
[09:48] <soundray> vsayikiran: to combine several commands on a single line
[09:48] <mmkassem> ikonia : ntpdate works in private networks .. no problem .. but I never tried it using a proxy ..
[09:48] <jandshog> redneck: :D that would make sense....
[09:48] <ikonia> mmkassem: a private network is not connected to the internet - so it can't work
[09:49] <gaspar> I need some help installing my SD/MMS/xD card reader
[09:49] <soundray> gaspar: what's the problem?
[09:49] <Hilikus_> im tryinfg to create a partition with qtparted, i have an NTFS partition that i want to remove, so i remove it and then the whole disk is free, but i dont get the option to create a new partition in it, its grayed out, why is that?
[09:49] <DJ_ToNy> hallo
[09:49] <aum> hi - i'm suspecting some software i've installed in the past may have overwritten official versions of lib files with bad builds - is there a way through apt or otherwise to check everything installed via apt, and restore anything that's been overwritten?
[09:49] <gaspar> soundray: I don't know where to find the device to mount it
[09:49] <nas> i can't install pidgin  :/  error with Gaim
[09:50] <ebirtaid> nas do you have the .deb for pidgin?
[09:50] <mmkassem> ikonia: he has access to the internet somehow ..
[09:50] <soundray> gaspar: make sure that removable devices automount (System-Preference-Removable drives...). Then you can just insert your card and it will be mounted.
[09:50] <nas> yes
[09:50] <ikonia> mmkassem: no he doesn't - he's using a proxy
[09:50] <kitche> nas: gaim and pidgin sort of conflict with each other :)
[09:50] <XiXaQ> is it necessary to upgrade in steps, or can you upgrade directly from 6.10 to 7.10?
[09:50] <ikonia> XiXaQ: steps
[09:50] <ebirtaid> then remove gaim first
[09:50] <vsayikiran> soundray: no diff between both time
[09:50] <nas> yes but i use polish Gadu-Gadu
[09:51] <stefg> !upgrade | XiXaQ
[09:51] <ubotu> XiXaQ: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:51] <nas> and Gaim doesnt work with it good
[09:51] <drew> compiz still dont work in 7.10 beta =\
[09:51] <nas> it crashes after a few minutes
[09:51] <ikonia> drew: yes it does
[09:51] <chris_> why can i use my side scroller on my touch pad????
[09:51] <ebirtaid> I'm saying use apt-get remove gaim
[09:51] <ebirtaid> then install the deb file
[09:51] <ikonia> ebirtaid: gaim is part of ubuntu-desktop
[09:52] <ebirtaid> ubuntu-dekstop is just a metafile it can be safely uninstalled
[09:52] <drew> ikonia, never worked for me
[09:52] <gaspar> soundray: yep, it's activated
[09:52] <ebirtaid> er metapackage
[09:52] <ikonia> ebirtaid: it can sure, but if he's going to upgrade it handy to leave
[09:52] <nas> removing ...
[09:52] <soundray> vsayikiran: set your time wrong ('sudo date -s "Sat Oct 13 20:50:00 BST 2007" ' ), then run the previous command again to see if it corrects your time
[09:52] <ikonia> soundray: he's on a private network, I can't see how it will work
[09:52] <ebirtaid> he could always reinstall it before upgrading
[09:52] <ikonia> ebirtaid: very true
[09:53] <soundray> gaspar: so, if you insert a card, does it show on the desktop?
[09:53] <clouder> is there a way to have ./configure tell me every thing I need at once instead of it telling me one thing, installing it then another thing, installing it etc.
[09:53] <ikonia> clouder: no
[09:53] <soundray> ikonia: I thought he had a connection via a proxy?
[09:53] <gaspar> soundray: nope, but i can see an event in dmesg
[09:53] <clouder> damn ;/
[09:54] <ikonia> soundray: yeah he does have a proxy, but I didn't think ntpdate supported proxy ?
[09:54] <soundray> gaspar: an error?
[09:54] <ikonia> clouder: if your building software you should know how to a.) read the README b.) now how to check your dependencies before starting
[09:54] <whonicca> what version of audacious is going to be on gusty?
[09:54] <Cheek> i'm trying to setup grub to direct to a /boot partition--i'm using the live cd, so my /boot partition shows up as /meda/disk/ can i do `grub-install --recheck --root-directory=/media/disk hd0`  or does root-directory have to reflect the actual path at boot time?
[09:54] <jrib> clouder: check out auto-apt but what are you compiling?
[09:54] <whonicca> and why are we stuck with such an old version?
[09:54] <ebirtaid> haha ikonia
[09:55] <ikonia> Cheek /media/disk is a mount point, not a device file
[09:55] <clouder> the latest wine
[09:55] <ebirtaid> /dev/sda* or hda* are the device files
[09:55] <NakedDrummer> good evening everybody... im installing ubuntu 7.04 on a hp dv9580eg... im getting the error message:
[09:55] <ikonia> clouder: what's in the latest wine that you want ?
[09:55] <ebirtaid> well sd* and hd*
[09:56] <gaspar> soundray: not an error, it says plugged device... and when I unplug, it says: unplugged something...
[09:56] <clouder> I saw it had some changes in opengl or something thought it might make a game run that doesn't run well at all
[09:56] <bhagman88> hi
[09:56] <HoboBen> Hi all. Been running Ubuntu for about a year now - I know Ubuntu doesn't normally need to defrag, but the Linux HD now sounds like what my Windows one sounds like after a week without defragging - is it worth doing a defrag of my Linux system just this once? If so, how?
[09:56] <bhagman88> I was wondering if someone could help me
[09:56] <bhagman88> I'm a new user to ubuntu
[09:56] <soundray> gaspar: okay, when it's plugged in, do a 'mount | grep media' and see if it'
[09:56] <Cheek> so the root-directory argument is expecting a device? the grub site says to issue the command with --root-directory=/boot for a separate boot partition, but that seems to make lese sense, since on the live cd /boot is part of the ramdisk
[09:56] <bhagman88> or linux in general
[09:56] <soundray> gaspar: okay, when it's plugged in, do a 'mount | grep media' and see if it's mounted
[09:57] <ikonia> HoboBen how do you tell if your hard disk is defragged from listening to it ?
[09:57] <vsayikiran> soundray: i am getting this message "timestamp too far from future"
[09:57] <whonicca> who maintains xchat on ubuntu?
[09:57] <NakedDrummer> good evening everybody... im installing ubuntu 7.04 on a hp dv9580eg... im getting the error message:
[09:57] <NakedDrummer> (initramfs)
[09:57] <NakedDrummer> what is wrong here? how can i get it workin? im a bit sad.. vista hom. prem. is installed and xp is not working because there are no drivers for the s-ata drives.. so i thought about install ubuntu.. and if it doesnt work i must work with vista *goin crazy*
[09:57] <ikonia> Cheek /boot is a mount point - not a device file
[09:57] <ebirtaid> hoboben: the filesystem doesnt fragment
[09:57] <HoboBen> ikonia - the light flickers a lot loading things like firefox. Never used to
[09:57] <bhagman88> is there anyway I can get a 'cat /proc/meminfo'
[09:57] <NakedDrummer> good evening everybody... im installing ubuntu 7.04 on a hp dv9580eg... im getting the error message:
[09:57] <NakedDrummer>  /bin/sh: can't acces tty; job control turned off
[09:57] <NakedDrummer> (initramfs)
[09:57] <NakedDrummer> what is wrong here? how can i get it workin? im a bit sad.. vista hom. prem. is installed and xp is not working because there are no drivers for the s-ata drives.. so i thought about install ubuntu.. and if it doesnt work i must work with vista *goin crazy*
[09:57] <soundray> vsayikiran: which timezone are you in?
[09:57] <NakedDrummer> so now its right :D
[09:57] <ikonia> HoboBen: and why do you think thats framentation
[09:57] <vsayikiran> IST
[09:58] <HoboBen> ikonia - because that's what my windows xp partition sounds like!
[09:58] <soundray> vsayikiran: how far off GMT is IST?
[09:58] <bhagman88> woops
[09:58] <HoboBen> iknonia, maybe I'm being paranoid?
[09:58] <vsayikiran> +530
[09:58] <ikonia> HoboBen: I think you perhaps are
[09:58] <Tritonio> hello! is there any way to run a program through the console on it's own process?
[09:58] <bhagman88> I mean is there anyway someone can give me a detailed explanation on the command 'cat /proc/meminfo'?
[09:58] <HoboBen> ikonia, thanks! :-)
[09:58] <Lifeisfunny> I think we need a menu entry when you do the mouse right click in a songfile folder ... it should read something like 'Enqueue file in Xmms'
[09:58] <NakedDrummer> anybody knows about this /bin/sh: can't acces....... error?
[09:58] <ikonia> HoboBen: don't worry so much, if there are problems the os will tell you
[09:59] <mateusz> Trintonio, every program runs on its own process
[09:59] <ebirtaid> naked drummer: it is common, search the forums
[09:59] <soundray> ikonia: apparently the -u option takes care of that problem
[09:59] <Cheek> ikonia: i understand that, but i dont know what that effect that has on me trying to set up boot.. i dont understand the significance of your statement..
[09:59] <HoboBen> ikonia - ok, cool!
[09:59] <ikonia> bhagman88: your displaying a file that represents an interface to the kernel thats displaying your memory information
[09:59] <ikonia> soundray: did it work ?
[09:59] <NakedDrummer> i searched 'em.. the answer is "noapic and apci=off" but thats not working for me
[09:59] <gaspar> soundray: nope it's not mounted
[09:59] <soundray> ikonia: not yet
[09:59] <ebirtaid> cheek: do you have a seperate boot parition?
[09:59] <ikonia> Cheek: grub wants to know about device files - not mount points
[09:59] <ikonia> soundray: let me know how it gets on as I didn't think it would work
[09:59] <stefg> NakedDrummer: that is a semi-popular issue in the forums, and usually an indication that the kernel doesn't find its root drive, b/c there are drivers missing in the intrd
[09:59] <mmkassem> vsayikiran: you can try htpdate, although probably it is not as accurate as ntp .. http://www.clevervest.com/htp/ and http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/147
[10:00] <soundray> gaspar: run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' while you plug it in to see if it throws errors
[10:00] <soundray> vsayikiran: please use my nick. Is it 01:30 in the morning where you are?
[10:00] <NakedDrummer> so thaat means? (sry im a noob but i didnt get it)
[10:00] <ikonia> mmkassem: does that support proxy ?
[10:00] <vsayikiran> soundray; yes
[10:00] <ikonia> NakedDrummer: it shows your memory usage
[10:00] <mmkassem> ikonia: yea, it works over HTTP
[10:00] <ikonia> mmkassem: handy to know, thank you
[10:00] <NakedDrummer> ikonia what do you mean?
[10:00] <TheGingerWon> how do yoou get xchat to start up in the system tray?
[10:01] <ikonia> NakedDrummer: it is telling you information about the system using your memory
[10:01] <stefg> NakedDrummer: alright ... so tell about your hardware (motherboard make/model)
[10:01] <whonicca> who maintains xchat ?
[10:01] <Cheek> ebirtaid: yeah, i've got it set up and edited the mtab to show -- /dev/sda6 /boot fat32 rw,errors=ro 0 0
[10:01] <Lifeisfunny> TheGingerWon, install the xchat-tray thingy
[10:01] <Hilikus_> do i need to have a primary partition in a hard drive? its not the system partition, its for multimedia, but it is a different device altogether. should the partition be primary or extended?
[10:01] <ikonia> Cheek: why have you put /boot as fat32
[10:01] <ikonia> Cheek: thats not wise
[10:01] <ebirtaid> I could be wrong but shouldnt your boot partition be formatted in ext3
[10:02] <fed> helo
[10:02] <ikonia> ebirtaid: your not wrongt
[10:02] <TheGingerWon> Lifeisfunny: how do i do that?
[10:02] <NakedDrummer> its a laptop: hp pavilion dv9580eg, intel core 2 duo t7300, 2048mb ram (2x1024), nvidia 8600gm, 2x 230gb s-ata drives.. what do u want to know else? =D
[10:02] <soundray> vsayikiran: can you do a 'sudo -K'?
[10:02] <NakedDrummer> and the live cd is for i386 (if thats important)
[10:02] <ebirtaid> that shouldnt matter
[10:03] <Cheek> i put made it fat32 so that both of my dual boot OSs could get get at menu.lst. grub says it supports fat32 ... is there another serious problem with it being fat32?
[10:03] <stefg> NakedDrummer: ok, that's info to work with
[10:03] <vsayikiran> soundray: why is it required
[10:03] <NakedDrummer> ok thx..
[10:03] <ebirtaid> damn I need to go to work
[10:03] <Tritonio> mateusz, i mean to detach it from the console.
[10:03] <LjL> Tritonio: programs do run in their own process.
[10:03] <vsayikiran> soundray: i did
[10:03] <Hilikus_> do i need to have a primary partition in a hard drive? its not the system partition, its for multimedia, but it is a different device altogether. should the partition be primary or extended?
[10:03] <Lifeisfunny> TheGingerWon, I've got it in my tray, and I have xchat and xchat-common installed ... open synaptic and use the search with xchat as the entry
[10:03] <soundray> vsayikiran: to get rid off that timestamp message.
[10:04] <soundray> vsayikiran: good, now set the time to be roughly correct: sudo date -s "Sun Oct 14 01:34:00 IST 2007"
[10:04] <NakedDrummer> maybe thats necessary stefg, i get another error msg at the beginning.. so the whole screen looks like this:
[10:04] <NakedDrummer> [     0.216524]  PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6:2000... for 0000:0......
[10:04] <NakedDrummer> Loading, please wait...
[10:04] <NakedDrummer> BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.........) Built-in shell (ash)
[10:05] <stefg> NakedDrummer: so the Live CD booted fine and installed, but at first reboot no ended up in the shell ?
[10:05] <NakedDrummer>  /bin/sh: can't acces tty: job control turned off
[10:05] <vsayikiran> soundray: after doing that when i run the first command, time changing
[10:05] <pcaldeira> hey, i have ubuntu installed and when installing it i left some space unpartitioned, as i intented do install windows xp on it. but when i insert the windows xp cd, it doesn't detect the unpartitioned space, instead it detects a partition of "type unknown"... what should i do?
[10:05] <stefg> NakedDrummer: *you ended up in the shell ?
[10:05] <tushyd> I have usb adapter for my 2.5" WD drive... under dmesg I get it as sdb, but I can't mount it
[10:05] <NakedDrummer> yes
[10:05] <tushyd> any help?
[10:05] <soundray> vsayikiran: you mean ntpdate has corrected the time now?
[10:05] <NakedDrummer> stefg: and that happens when i boot the livecd
[10:06] <chrisbm> tushyd: what do you do when you try to mount it?
[10:06] <Wazm> dunno
[10:06] <Lifeisfunny> TheGingerWon, btw, do not install any or everything  'xchat-gnome'
[10:06] <stefg> NakedDrummer: so you can't boot the Live CD anymore ?
[10:06] <tushyd> actually, I don't really know to mount it because it doesn't show up under "fdisk -l"
[10:06] <harm> is there a way for my gnome desktop to show my current IP adress?
[10:06] <mr_wang> what NEV grapics driver does 7.10 support? the new one? or the same thats on 7,6
[10:06] <vsayikiran> soundray: i dont know who corrected it , but letme check using wireshark
[10:06] <tushyd> (it's a hfs+ formatted drive)
[10:06] <NakedDrummer> stefg: ive never been able to (on this machine)
[10:06] <soundray> !ttyerr | NakedDrummer
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ttyerr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <harm> mr_wang: join #ubuntu+1 i think this is for 7.04 isnt it?
[10:07] <andrewmin> hey all, having trouble with my new logitech ak5370 usb microphone its showing up in lusb but nothing can record with iti tried mhwaveedit and skype, and niether could
[10:07] <soundray> !ttyerror | NakedDrummer
[10:07] <ubotu> NakedDrummer: If you get an error on boot similar to  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off , you can try the fixes proposed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TTYError
[10:07] <Tritonio> sorry, i meant how can i run a program detached from the console. For example by executing gedit it runs but it is bound to the console. How can i run it detached?
[10:07] <stefg> NakedDrummer: then try some 'cheatcodes' as mentioned in the bootoptions
[10:07] <radioman_> what is best virtual mashine in linux to run other OS?
[10:07] <stefg> !boot | NakedDrummer
[10:07] <ubotu> NakedDrummer: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[10:07] <harm> radioman_: VMware?
[10:07] <pcaldeira> hey, i have ubuntu installed and when installing it i left some space unpartitioned, as i intented do install windows xp on it. but when i insert the windows xp cd, it doesn't detect the unpartitioned space, instead it detects a partition of "type unknown".. what should i do?
[10:07] <NakedDrummer> stefg: oke thx.. ill play with it a bit =D
[10:07] <chrisbm> tushyd: open a terminal, type 'mkdir temp' replace temp with whatever have youl, then do 'sudo mount /dev/sdb temp
[10:07] <radioman_> does vmvare run in ubuntu?
[10:07] <harm> pcaldeira: format it into NTSF or FAT32..
[10:07] <pcaldeira> radioman_, a user-friendly and nice solution is virtualbot
[10:08] <kitche> radioman_: yes
[10:08] <pcaldeira> harm, how can i format it into ntfs?
[10:08] <radioman_> thx
[10:08] <harm> radioman_: please check out the wiki or www.ubuntuguide.org :)
[10:08] <pcaldeira> gparted doesn't provide that option
[10:08] <pcaldeira> at least as 'gnome partition editor'
[10:08] <vsayikiran> soundray: its not updating time
[10:08] <mmkassem> pcaldeira: I think you meant virtualbox
[10:08] <tushyd> chrisbm: mount: special device /dev/sdb does not exist
[10:09] <harm> pcaldeira: when u insert the XP cd and u see the types of spaces there is an option create new partition.. use that or try the linux prgm gparted
[10:09] <pcaldeira> mmkassem, right
[10:09] <soundray> Tritonio: nohup gedit
[10:09] <pcaldeira> harm, but the windows xp simply doesnt detect any unpartitioned space
[10:09] <pcaldeira> so it doesnt allow me to create a new partition
[10:09] <mateusz> pcaldeira, does it detect the hard drive tho?
[10:09] <pcaldeira> it does
[10:09] <harm> pcaldeira: if u can install gparted its a very small prgm and it will show you how your HD drive looks atm :)
[10:10] <pcaldeira> harm, i do have gparted installed
[10:10] <chrisbm> tushyd: weird...
[10:10] <pcaldeira> and i have seen how my hd looks :P
[10:10] <jvai> ...
[10:10] <pcaldeira> there's a 50gb ext3 partition
[10:10] <Tritonio> soundray, thank you.
[10:10] <pcaldeira> the swap
[10:10] <harm> pcaldeira: give it a go then, and it should show u the unpartition space..
[10:10] <stefg> NakedDrummer: here's a thread in the forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=415009&page=1
[10:10] <tushyd> chrisbm: I see some "I/O error" messages in dmesg, could that be it?
[10:10] <harm> pcaldeira: try the FORMAT option on the empty space and make it into NTFS or FAT32
[10:10] <soundray> pcaldeira: could you pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' so we can see it, too? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:11] <pcaldeira> harm, i have given, gparted actually shows the unpartitioned space
[10:11] <chrisbm> tushyd: do you have something in the drive?
[10:11] <pcaldeira> but harm
[10:11] <chrisbm> tushyd: in order to mount it you need a disk in it
[10:11] <pcaldeira> it doesnt show up ntfs in the new partition dialog
[10:11] <mr_wang> i just installed ENEMY TERRITORY where is it?
[10:11] <harm> make it into FAT32
[10:11] <pcaldeira> ntfs appears in grey (disabled)
[10:11] <soundray> stefg, NakedDrummer: have you seen the ttyerror factoid?
[10:11] <stefg> oh , there is one?
[10:11] <pcaldeira> harm, i prefer ntfs
[10:12] <stefg> !ttyerror
[10:12] <ubotu> If you get an error on boot similar to  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off , you can try the fixes proposed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TTYError
[10:12] <tushyd> chrisbm: I do, it's a western digital laptop drive with a usb adapter
[10:12] <stefg> aaahhh!
[10:12] <harm> pcaldeira: try making it into FAT32 and then it might show up when ur install XP ;)
[10:12] <pcaldeira> hmm
[10:12] <pcaldeira> nice way around
[10:12] <stefg> !ttyerror > NakedDrummer
[10:12] <harm> pcaldeira: just change it to NTFS
[10:12] <mmkassem> pcaldeira: you can convert it to NTFS from XP
[10:12] <pcaldeira> mmkassem, harm, i undestand now
[10:12] <pcaldeira> ty, im going to try it
[10:12] <harm> pcaldeira: cheers
[10:12] <pcaldeira> :P
[10:12] <chrisbm> tushyd: Is that a floppy drive?
[10:13] <tushyd> no, it's a hard drive
[10:13] <tushyd> i know the adapter works because it works with a different drive
[10:14] <kbrooks> why dont the effects work] ?
[10:14] <kbrooks> they should
[10:14] <YoMero> hi, i'm using feisty, and i want test kvm with a cdrom of feisty server, i try but it just hang in the boot, i'm search in google, but the most people use dapper for test
[10:14] <chrisbm> tushyd: ah... is it formatted? with partitions on it etc.
[10:15] <kbrooks> i setup a good xorg.conf, glxgears checks out, direct rendering is yes
[10:15] <Hilikus_> is there an app to manage fstab?
[10:15] <soundray> YoMero: how long have you waited?
[10:15] <tushyd> chrisbm: I believe so, my old powerbook's screen went dead so I took out the harddrive, the drive is only about a year old
[10:15] <soundray> Hilikus_: I use emacs
[10:15] <Lifeisfunny> kbrooks, visit  #Ubuntu-effects
[10:15] <tushyd> chrisbm: it worked fine in the powerbook
[10:15] <Hilikus_> soundray me too, but i dont want to have to lookup all the damn commands, i want a frontend
[10:15] <YoMero> a couple of minutes, and i can't see the menu for start the install
[10:15] <YoMero> the procesor go to 100%
[10:15] <stiev3> after downloading, compiling, and installing a program... is there a reason to keep the files yielded from the make?
[10:16] <chrisbm> tushyd: I'm too tired to think well, try asking again and see if someone with more of a clue helps you. sorry =/
[10:16] <YoMero> it works with cd of windows, but with the cd of ubuntu just hang
[10:16] <tushyd> chrisbm: Thanks for your help
[10:16] <bensa> I'm trying to install Pidgin, and it states that I should save the pidgin.repo file to the /etc/yum.repos.d/ but I don't have a "yum.repos.d" folder in etc.  Can I save the file anywhere?
[10:16] <soundray> Hilikus_: an apt-cache search reveals pysdm
[10:17] <MikeG> bensa: That sounds like it's not for
[10:17] <MikeG> bensa: That sounds like it's not for Ubuntu.
[10:17] <soundray> !info pysdm | Hilikus_
[10:17] <ubotu> hilikus_: pysdm: Graphical Storage Device Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 26 kB, installed size 280 kB
[10:17] <mmkassem> bensa: How are you installing pidgin?
[10:18] <bensa> mmkassem: Downloading it from the website. I selected "Fedora Core".  Was that a mistake?
[10:18] <harm> Is there a way which will display mu current IP adress onto desktop or taskbar?
[10:18] <bradmw> approximately how much time should i expect dpkg-deb to package a linux kernel image using the stock configuration (on a C2D 1.6ghz)
[10:18] <minus> Hello! What do you ppl say: 7.04 or 7.10? What is the default kernel on both? Does the driver from nvidia work properly? Is it easy to get Compiz Fusion going?
[10:18] <MikeG> bensa: Yum is sort of like apt-get for some other distributions. You are using Ubuntu, not Fedora Core. The Pidgin people do not provide a package for Ubuntu.
[10:18] <gandalf> hi
[10:18] <harm> minus: with that many questions go 7.04 :)
[10:19] <stiev3> bensa, I just completed this guide: http://jhcore.com/2007/06/04/install-pidgin-in-ubuntu/ went pretty smooth
[10:19] <minus> harm, Well.. Im not new to linux. Just new to ubuntu.
[10:19] <MikeG> bensa: You can compile pidgin from the source posted on pidgin's site. Alternatively, I think there are Ubuntu packages posted elsewhere that someone else here might be able to direct you to.
[10:19] <Le_Vert> I'm looking for adrien cunin (adri2000)
[10:19] <bensa> MikeG: Darn.  Recommend an alternative?  :D  (I thought Pidgin was known as Gaim a  while back?  Wasn't Gaim support in Ubuntu?)
[10:19] <minus> harm, And I cant find any info about the current default kernel.
[10:19] <Le_Vert> does someone know his nickname ?
[10:20] <grovers> bensa, pidgin is in the ubuntu repositories
[10:20] <mmkassem> bensa: Pidgin is included in Gusty
[10:20] <minus> harm, and I have had alot of shit on Debian with the nvidia driver so...
[10:20] <soundray> !language | minus
[10:20] <ubotu> minus: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:20] <mr_wang> HOW DO I DISPLAY WHATS IN /usr/local/games?
[10:20] <stefg> minus: 7.10 is still in development, so install 7.04. nvidia install is a breeze, unless you don't have one of the moble chipsets
[10:20] <megamanx> ls /usr/local/games/*
[10:20] <mr_wang> i see notting?
[10:20] <harm> minus: so far my drivers work fine outa the box with 7.04
[10:20] <harm> (since 6.10 really)
[10:20] <FallenHi1okiri> mr_wang: stop screaming
[10:20] <megamanx> hey guys I have a problem with ALSA
[10:20] <FallenHi1okiri> mr_wang: than there is nothing
[10:20] <harm> Is there a way which will display mu current IP adress onto desktop or taskbar?
[10:20] <mr_wang> yes there is.
[10:21] <minus> soundray, "Shit" is not rly a bad word..  Newer versions haven't been put there. A version of Pidgin is in the Gusty repository, as others noted.
[10:21] <minus> harm, well.. That is nvidia-glx I guess... I want the official drivers from nvidia.xom
[10:21] <minus> com*
[10:21] <MikeG> bensa: Why do you need the new version?
[10:21] <soundray> minus: it's not welcome here. Go to #ubuntu-ops if you want it allowed.
[10:21] <harm> FallenHi1okiri: urm.. ok i will give that go then cheers
[10:21] <mr_wang> how do i display it?
[10:21] <FallenHi1okiri> asenec4: its called root, you should not login as root and you can change it in /etc/passwd
[10:22] <megamanx> I was previously using OSS but just decided to move to alsa, so I installed alsa-base, alsa-utils, alsa-tools... but there' no alsaconf! How can I configure ALSA to use my sound card (I have 2 and I want it to use my YAMAHA sound card)
[10:22] <minus> soundray, so you mean that "shit" is not allowed o.O
[10:22] <harm> mr_wang.. http://linux-gamers.net enjoy
[10:22] <minus> soundray, thats f**king hilarious
[10:22] <soundray> minus: I do something else everyday and I'm not allowed to say it
[10:22] <mr_wang> no. i want to display whats in that folder
[10:22] <FallenHi1okiri> mr_wang: ls
[10:22] <soundray> minus: careful, you're going to get yourself kicked
[10:22] <bensa> MikeG: I'm curious as to what it looks like.
[10:23] <harm> mr_wang to list a directory use the ls command.. ls / or ls /home/mr_wang ..
[10:23] <WaltzingAlong> !sound
[10:23] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:23] <NakedDrummer> soundray: what do u mean with factoid ?
[10:23] <megamanx> ubotu
[10:23] <minus> soundray, well.. I havn't said anything bad yet..Atleast not since I said "s*it" last time..
[10:23] <AncientRelic> any way to turn off tapping with my touchpad?
[10:23] <soundray> NakedDrummer: ubotu sent you a private message
[10:23] <megamanx> that's a bot right?
[10:23] <stefg> !ohmy | minus
[10:23] <ubotu> minus: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:23] <mmkassem> bensa : This might help http://download.ubuntu.pl/_Feisty_Fawn/pidgin/2.1.1/
[10:23] <soundray> !ubotu | megamanx
[10:23] <ubotu> megamanx: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:23] <bradmw> !ohmy | ubotu
[10:23] <ubotu> ubotu: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:23] <minus> stefg, wtf?! I didn't know this was a communistchat...
[10:24] <harm> minus just please dont use the S word.. some people dont like it no need to aggrivate people :)
[10:24] <FallenHi1okiri> AncientRelic: yes throuh your xorg.conf is AFAIK the only way - I don't know alternative
[10:24] <NakedDrummer> ah yes i saw it...
[10:24] <soundray> !msgthebot > bradmw, please read the private message
[10:24] <minus> harm, ok.. whatever..
[10:24] <mr_wang> lowlux@lowlux-desktop:~$ ls /usr/local/games/*
[10:24] <mr_wang> ls: /usr/local/games/*: Permission denied
[10:24] <mr_wang> lowlux@lowlux-desktop:~$
[10:24] <MikeG> bensa: Screenshots should be on the site. There have been some changes to how the UI is presented. I can walk you through installing it from source (less intimidating than it sounds) or you can try mmkassem's link..
[10:24] <harm> mr_wang: use SUDO ls /usr..
[10:24] <minus> harm, what kernel are you runnung on 7.04?
[10:24] <AncientRelic> FallenHi1okiri: any idea where in my xorg.conf?
[10:24] <asenec4> :FallenHilokiri how would I change the root home directory
[10:24] <NakedDrummer> but the resulotin isn working -.- there all just things like noapic nolapic acpi=off and so on.. but i already tried that :/ i dont know what to do
[10:24] <FallenHi1okiri> AncientRelic: yeah - pointing device ;)
[10:24] <kbrooks> minus, this is not a dictatorship chat. it seems to you to be that b/c you are swearing.
[10:24] <minus> asenec4, why would you?
[10:24] <FallenHi1okiri> asenec4: edit your passwd
[10:24] <bensa> MikeG: I'll try the link. If I run into any issues, can I ask your assistance?
[10:25] <soundray> minus: 2.6.20 is default on feisty, 2.6.22 on gutsy.
[10:25] <Soroush83> does ubuntu use debian packages?
[10:25] <megamanx> look !sound won't help me, it is not an issue with GNOME and besides I use KDE... all I need is to configure ALSA to use a specific sound card in my system.. I have already looked all over Google but can't find an answer... is it much asked to get guided a little bit? Why doesn't Ubuntu have alsaconf in the first place is annoying me! In Debian all I did was to alsaconf >:-|
[10:25] <kbrooks> minus, and being uncivil.
[10:25] <minus> soundray, ok.. thanks
[10:25] <mmkassem> Soroush83: yes
[10:25] <arthur78> any idea how to change the background color in gnome's bash?
[10:25] <NakedDrummer> !sco
[10:25] <ubotu> Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha!!!!!
[10:25] <kbrooks> megamanx, look into aoss
[10:25] <MikeG> bensa: Alternatively, you can upgrade to Gusty (wait a couple days and it will be fully released) and get the package from there.
[10:25] <AncientRelic> FallenHi1okiri: a bit more specific would be helpful :P
[10:25] <soundray> Soroush83: it uses the same package format, but don't install debian packages if you can have an ubuntu one.
[10:25] <megamanx> aoss how should that help me
[10:25] <FallenHi1okiri> arthur78: you mean gnome-terminal: profile
[10:25] <bradmw> arthur78: it's easier to change the background color of the terminal
[10:26] <FallenHi1okiri> AncientRelic: i have my notebook not with me and I have no access to my conf
[10:26] <NakedDrummer> stefg: the answers are only nolapic noapic and so on.. but ive already tried that
[10:26] <minus> Gah! I can't make up my mind! 7.04 or 7.10! Gah!
[10:26] <MikeG> bensa: You can ask for help with the package from the website here, but I cannot specifically support it. (I didn't make it or post it. If something goes wrong, I don't necessarily know why.)
[10:26] <megamanx> 7.10
[10:26] <AncientRelic> FallenHi1okiri: Thanks anyways
[10:26] <FallenHi1okiri> AncientRelic: np
[10:26] <AncientRelic> minus, another vote for 7.10
[10:26] <megamanx> yeah
[10:26] <MasterShrek> 7.10
[10:26] <megamanx> best to tinker with the latest greatest
[10:26] <minus> AncientRelic, ok :P
[10:26] <kbrooks> minus, 7.10, but wait
[10:26] <soundray> NakedDrummer: which version of ubuntu are you trying?
[10:26] <kbrooks> megamanx, really?
[10:26] <megamanx> yeah
[10:27] <megamanx> you learn more
[10:27] <NakedDrummer> soundray: thats a 7.04 desktop i386
[10:27] <kbrooks> megamanx, okay...
[10:27] <kbrooks> !worksforme | megamanx
[10:27] <ubotu> megamanx: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[10:27] <minus> megamanx, agree.. But I've had bad experiences with Debian when Lenny became Testing...
[10:27] <megamanx> kbrooks, Gutsy is pretty stable I must say
[10:27] <soundray> NakedDrummer: any chance you could download and test the gutsy release candidate?
[10:27] <stefg> NakedDrummer: two things can go wrong: 1.) IRQ's are messed, so the controller can't access the disk 2.) driver for your chipset is missing, so you have to preload it by other means
[10:27] <bensa> MikeG: -nods- Understood.  I'm just playing around, so if I screw something up, I'll just learn more trying to fix it.  :)
[10:27] <megamanx> minus yeah but that's Debian
[10:27] <megamanx> Lenny is pretty stable by now
[10:27] <megamanx> and so is Gutsy
[10:27] <MikeG> bensa: That's the fun!
[10:27] <minus> megamanx, yeah, and ubuntu is based on debian
[10:27] <minus> xD
[10:28] <adrian__> hi, does anyone know of a good windows emulator for games (other than wine)
[10:28] <Colro> Is there a way to disable user switching entirely? I lock my screen when I'm not home to prevent sibling tinkering, but if someone hits switch user my screen just turns black and I end up having to hard re-boot, I'd prefer to just have the feature disabled entirely.
[10:28] <megamanx> minus so?
[10:28] <megamanx> Ubuntu is different
[10:28] <FallenHi1okiri> minus: you cannot compare testing with a beta from ubuntu
[10:28] <Colro> adrian__: Cadega, but it's not free.
[10:28] <megamanx> sure you can
[10:28] <FallenHi1okiri> at least not before testing is near a release
[10:28] <minus> megamanx, I had problems with the graphics on lenny all summer...
[10:28] <megamanx> well true
[10:28] <Colro> adrian__: $5/mo i think
[10:28] <kbrooks> stop arguing, everyone
[10:28] <adrian__> colro, any free ones?
[10:28] <megamanx> minus me too!
[10:28] <kbrooks> settle down
[10:28] <minus> FallenHi1okiri, What is best?
[10:28] <FallenHi1okiri> Colro: cadega
[10:28] <megamanx> NVIDIA Quadro
[10:28] <mr_wang> no wonder no one wants to make games for linux.
[10:28] <megamanx> ^_^
[10:28] <NakedDrummer> soundray: i have it on a dvd drive -.- so i used the wubi-cd thing under vista but when i boot i end up with a black screen... first is loads the grub stuff then i select the install and then i get a black screen and cant acces consoles (alt+f1,f2....)
[10:28] <FallenHi1okiri> minus: stupid question
[10:28] <kbrooks> mr_wang, there are commercial games
[10:28] <megamanx> SuperTux!
[10:28] <minus> megamanx, Everytime I rebooted I had to reinstall my nvidiadriver
[10:29] <megamanx> ^_^
[10:29] <NakedDrummer> "dvd drive" should be "dvd disc"
[10:29] <kbrooks> brb
[10:29] <megamanx> minus, on Lenny my Quadro didn't work at all even when using vesa
[10:29] <asenec4> I changed my admin home directory using the System menu in the gnome interface in advance settings now whenever I login as admin it's says my home directory doesn't exist. So how would I set it back from the command line???
[10:29] <NakedDrummer> stefg: and how ca ould i preload them?
[10:29] <jandshog> Is it possible to reinstall a libc6 package on a broken system?
[10:29] <megamanx> I still think Ubuntu should have alsaconf. Period
[10:29] <minus> megamanx, thats.. ehm.. good...
[10:29] <minus> xD
[10:29] <MikeG> minus: I had that problem for a while, too. Proprietary drivers can be funny.
[10:29] <kitche> !wubi | NakedDrummer
[10:29] <ubotu> NakedDrummer: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[10:29] <megamanx> no jandshog
[10:29] <bensa> MikeG: it is!
[10:29] <minus> megamanx, doesn't ubuntu have alsaconf o_O
[10:29] <megamanx> no
[10:30] <megamanx> unfortunately
[10:30] <FallenHi1okiri> asenec4: /etc/passwd   - and i repeat: login in as "admin" is a _bad_ idea and god kills a kitten every time you do this
[10:30] <megamanx> that's why I came here
[10:30] <soundray> jandshog: I just did something similar - chrooted to a borked system from the live CD and fixed it
[10:30] <bradmw> !ohmy | FallenHi1okiri
[10:30] <ubotu> FallenHi1okiri: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:30] <minus> megamanx, why not?
[10:30] <minus> Are there any reason?
[10:30] <minus> s*
[10:30] <megamanx> yes
[10:30] <megamanx> I have 2 sound cards
[10:30] <FallenHi1okiri> bradmw: sorry?
[10:30] <megamanx> and I want ALSA to use the other one
[10:30] <NakedDrummer> kithce: dont u think that i then will get the ttyerr when i boot the installed system? ;)
[10:30] <megamanx> with alsaconf it is easy
[10:30] <bradmw> FallenHi1okiri: DON'T TAKE THE LORDS NAME IN VAIN
[10:30] <stefg> NakedDrummer: first try 'noacpi nolapic noapic routeirq' as boot parameters. Chances are there is no driver available for your chipset in the 2.6.20 kernel, it would be included
[10:30] <jandshog> soundray: I'm chrooted in right now. What did you do to fix it?
[10:30] <megamanx> but noo... ubuntu is SO human dreindly
[10:31] <minus> megamanx, hehe...
[10:31] <jvai> ..
[10:31] <John117> heguru, can i ask a question of you?
[10:31] <minus> Maybe I should go with debian... but still not..
[10:31] <minus> hm..
[10:31] <Cheek> if i chroot into my installed linux partition from the live cd, should my hdds show up in the dev directory? -- /dev/sda..
[10:31] <kitche> !caps | bradmw
[10:31] <NakedDrummer> stefg: ohh shit :( so vista is the only answer *puke*
[10:31] <soundray> jandshog: in my case it was a matter of doing a 'dpkg --configure -a'
[10:31] <ubotu> bradmw: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:31] <megamanx> minus I came to Ubuntu because of Debian being too out of date
[10:31] <minus> Debian is alot more "sit in the console and do things.."
[10:31] <megamanx> I needed a new libc6
[10:31] <stefg> NakedDrummer: or trying gutsy RC
[10:31] <bradmw> minus: use gentoo!
[10:31] <staticwhite> how does one change the PATH to use gcc-3.4 instead of gcc-4.1
[10:31] <soundray> jandshog: if your libc6 is at fault, it might be more complicated
[10:31] <NakedDrummer> stefg: i already tried the rc
[10:31] <minus> megamanx, agree..
[10:31] <Colro> Is there a way to disable user switching entirely? I lock my screen when I'm not home to prevent sibling tinkering, but if someone hits switch user my screen just turns black and I end up having to hard re-boot, I'd prefer to just have the feature disabled entirely.
[10:31] <NakedDrummer> gutsy: i have it on a dvd drive -.- so i used the wubi-cd thing under vista but when i boot i end up with a black screen... first is loads the grub stuff then i select the install and then i get a black screen and cant acces consoles (alt+f1,f2....)
[10:32] <megamanx> rm /usr/bin/gcc; ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc
[10:32] <asenec4> :FallenHilokiri  I tried using passwd, all it does is offer to type in a new password.???
[10:32] <minus> bradmw, haha! Thats like: "compile everything by hand"
[10:32] <stefg> NakedDrummer: ah, so try the Feisty Live CD as well. might be a bug in the RC
[10:32] <John117> I just insatalled ubuntu for the first time on my laptop.  Currently, I can't get any usb devices to work.  I have a usb wireless mouse that worked for about 10 seconds then quit.  any suggestions?
[10:32] <Flannel> Colro: that's on gutsy, right?
[10:32] <jandshog> soundray: I'll try that. I'm not that familiar with apt, but I've done everything I can think of.
[10:32] <Colro> flannel: yes, latest gutsy
[10:32] <mmkassem> asenec4 : what are you trying to do?
[10:32] <minus> megamanx, do you need both soundcards then? or is one of them "built in" to the motherboard?
[10:32] <Flannel> Colro: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support
[10:32] <NakedDrummer> stefg: feisty is 6.10?
[10:32] <bradmw> minus: actually GCC compiles things for you in gentoo
[10:32] <Colro> flannel: did i run into a bug? =|
[10:32] <megamanx> the other is built in, I want to use my YAMAHA production card
[10:32] <stefg> NakedDrummer: no 7.04
[10:32] <WaltzingAlong> Colro: not that i know. one could switch to tty1 or so then start things from there or log in through ssh or what not
[10:33] <staticwhite> megamanx, isn't there a way to change that in PATH instead of changing the symlink
[10:33] <stefg> !feisty | NakedDrummer
[10:33] <ubotu> NakedDrummer: Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - For BitTorrent downloads, see !Torrents
[10:33] <Flannel> Colro: more than likely, yes.
[10:33] <megamanx> static white: rexport CC="gcc-3.4"
[10:33] <arthur78> FallenHi1okiri: Yes, but what is the gnome-terminal profile's file name?
[10:33] <NakedDrummer> stefg: i was always talking about feisty, with the tty error
[10:33] <minus> bradmw, well.. I didn't mean "by hand" in that way.. I mean that you got to compile every part of the program, every library everything
[10:33] <megamanx> static white: export CC="gcc-3.4"
[10:33] <megamanx> but it sometimes doesn't work
[10:33] <megamanx> better change the symlink
[10:33] <Cheek> how do you unlink a symlink from the command line?
[10:33] <megamanx> as most apps simply call gcc
[10:33] <staticwhite> megamanx, danke
[10:33] <stefg> NakedDrummer: ok, so neither the 2.620, nor the 2.6.22 will boot ?
[10:34] <megamanx> gern geshechen
[10:34] <megamanx> or something like that :)
[10:34] <asenec4> :mmkassem I changed the home directory of my administrator account by error with the gnome menu now I can't login with that account. Luckily I have another user account and would like to reset  the administrators home directory through the command line
[10:34] <megamanx> Cheek simply rm /path/to/symlink
[10:34] <NakedDrummer> if the 7.04 is the 2.620 and the 7.10 the 2.6.22 ur right... but @ the 7.10 i have this black screen err
[10:34] <bensa> mmkassem: oh!  the errors!  the errors!  *lol*
[10:34] <jandshog> soundray: that didn't do it for me :( Does ubuntu provide a tgz to unpack in / to fix this sort of problem?
[10:34] <NakedDrummer> stefg: not err.. i meant bug
[10:35] <megamanx> I'll sue Ubuntu for being against humanity!
[10:35] <soundray> jandshog: hold on, just reading docs
[10:35] <NakedDrummer> stefg: now im booting live cd 6.10
[10:35] <Flannel> asenec4: use 'usermod' to re-set the homedir
[10:35] <megamanx> It is against humanity to limit the user from choosing what sound card he/she wants to use :)
[10:35] <jandshog> soundray: ok
[10:35] <asenec4> :Flannel from where do you issue this command?
[10:35] <bensa> What does this mean: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH ?
[10:35] <minus> megamanx, hm.. I was thinking about that.. Cant you just install alsaconf?
[10:35] <megamanx> how
[10:35] <stefg> NakedDrummer: so if you're really inclined to get ubuntu working i'd try the 7.04 alternate install. that has probably the best chance to get you going
[10:36] <minus> doenload the source and compile
[10:36] <minus> download*
[10:36] <Flannel> asenec4: At a command line.  usermod -d /path/to/homedir user
[10:36] <megamanx> there's no alsaconf in the repositories and when compiled it won't use Ubuntu's ALSA libs
[10:36] <Cheek> What does "The file .../grub/stage1 not read correctly" mean?
[10:36] <megamanx> and no way I'll compile all ALSA libs
[10:36] <megamanx> too many errors
[10:36] <stefg> Cheek: that you are in trouble
[10:36] <NakedDrummer> stefg: the ubuntu 6.10 gives me a "Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 357564"
[10:36] <megamanx> too many sleepless nights
[10:36] <John117>  I just insatalled ubuntu for the first time on my laptop.  Currently, I can't get any usb devices to work.  I have a usb wireless mouse that worked for about 10 seconds then quit.  any suggestions?
[10:36] <minus> megamanx, agree
[10:36] <asenec4> :Flannel thank you!
[10:36] <megamanx> minus you agree to everything what I say :)
[10:36] <bulmer> bensa there are no c compiler found?
[10:36] <Cheek> i always seem to be :cP
[10:36] <bensa> mmkassem: it didn't go smoothly for me.  I hit a error when trying to configure it.
[10:36] <stefg> NakedDrummer: forget 6.10 ....
[10:36] <soundray> jandshog: okay, this is a bit of a hairy operation -- have you got a backup in case it goes wrong?
[10:36] <NakedDrummer> stefg: =D
[10:37] <arthur78> Don't know howto change a bg color in gnome terminal! Who knows, please?!
[10:37] <MikeG> bensa: Is this trying to install the Pidgin deb package? Have you installed the build-essential package ever?
[10:37] <megamanx> GameCube > Wii
[10:37] <minus> megamanx, well.. All your statements are so good xD
[10:37] <megamanx> :)
[10:37] <megamanx> lol
[10:37] <megamanx> be right back
[10:37] <NakedDrummer> stefg: what is the difference to the alternate? and do u mean i should try 7.10 or 7.04 alternate
[10:37] <bulmer> arthur78: man tput
[10:37] <chryss> France 9-11 England
[10:37] <bensa> MikeG: This is.  It happens when I'm trying to configure (as per instructions).  I don't know what a "build essential package" is.  -.-
[10:38] <bensa> MikeG:  <-- n00b
[10:38] <stefg> NakedDrummer: 7.04 is the recent stable release, and alternate is a different method of installing (in text mode)
[10:38] <NakedDrummer> stefg: the only problem is that i dont have empty cd's.. only dvds... would that work somehow?
[10:38] <chryss> sorry wrong window
[10:38] <MikeG> bensa: Are you installing from source?
[10:38] <chryss> will retreat
[10:38] <bensa> Mike G: Yes
[10:38] <jandshog> soundray: just a second, let me check
[10:38] <Cheek> stefg: any advice?
[10:38] <stefg> NakedDrummer: there's a DVD available as well
[10:38] <arthur78> bulmer: Thank you!
[10:38] <bulmer> arthur78: np
[10:38] <MikeG> bensa: Can I contact you out-of-band?
[10:39] <bensa> MikeG: yes.
[10:39] <NakedDrummer> stefg: i dont want to download the dvd :D i meant is it possible to install the live cd onto a dvd
[10:39] <John117>  I just insatalled ubuntu for the first time on my laptop.  Currently, I can't get any usb devices to work.  I have a usb wireless mouse that worked for about 10 seconds then quit.  any suggestions?
[10:39] <Colro> What's a good program to monitor system temperatures/fan speed and the like? I use CoreCenter in windows and it works fine with my motherboard if that helps.
[10:40] <stefg> NakedDrummer: no. you can't burn a CD iso on a DVD
[10:40] <NakedDrummer> stefg: btw... ubuntu 6.10 gives me an "x server err: no screen found"
[10:40] <MikeG> bensa: I tried to msg you. Do you have a registered nick? You'll need one to send private messages.
[10:40] <stefg> NakedDrummer: the CD probably has a media error
[10:40] <RequinB4> sigh... here we  go again
[10:40] <jandshog> soundray: we're good to go. What do I need to do?
[10:40] <NakedDrummer> stefg: extracting the iso into a folder and then burning it onto a dvd? :P is there any boot file i cane use as boot script?
[10:40] <RequinB4> does anyone want to help me get a module
[10:40] <RequinB4> modprobe doesn't like me and i prefer sound on my comp :P
[10:41] <bensa> MikeG: I do not. I do not know how to do that either.  >.<
[10:41] <neofax> Anyone here have lirc working with a Hauppauge PVR-500?  I cannot get it to work.
[10:41] <hasse_> crimsun, hey, i have a sound problem on my lenovo t61p
[10:41] <stefg> NakedDrummer: nope... you need a CD-R or need to d/l the DVD image and use the alternat installer
[10:41] <neofax> !lirc
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lirc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <soundray> jandshog: the big picture is, you can unpack the libc6 deb and copy all the contained files to their destinations "manually".
[10:41] <soundray> jandshog: sound attractive?
[10:42] <jandshog> Ok, that doesn't sound too bad (I'm used to gentoo...I like the hard way! ;) )
[10:42] <NakedDrummer> stefg: and does the intel core2duo work with the amd64 version?
[10:42] <rockmanx> anyone knows the telephone number of Marky Shuttleworth??
[10:42] <timmahtron> if anyone could help, i've searched all over the net and I'm still having problems...upgraded from 6.x to 7.0 and for some reason it mounted all of my devices as scsi devices
[10:42] <O8768686> ok
[10:42] <jandshog> How does one unpack a .deb?
[10:42] <soundray> jandshog: 'ar x file.deb'
[10:42] <rockmanx> dpkg -x file.deb /pthat/to/
[10:42] <acidx> jandshog, use ar and tar
[10:43] <MikeG> !register | bensa
[10:43] <ubotu> bensa: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:43] <soundray> jandshog: then tar zxvf data.tar.gz
[10:43] <rockmanx> dpkg -x /path/tomy.deb /path/to/destination <- much better than ar x!
[10:43] <stefg> NakedDrummer: don't know, but you'll want the 32bit version anyway
[10:43] <Colro> What's a good program to monitor system temperatures/fan speed and the like? I use CoreCenter in windows and it works fine with my motherboard if that helps.
[10:43] <NakedDrummer> ok
[10:43] <minus> Bleh for w8ing 5 days till 7.10
[10:43] <hasse_> crimsun, i have tried with the new drivers from alsa, but still no sound
[10:43] <MikeG> bensa: Or we can just talk in here, but it can be hard to catch everything.
[10:43] <rockmanx> GKrellM
[10:43] <rockmanx> Colro
[10:43] <rockmanx> GKrellM
[10:43] <RequinB4> anyone want to help me get a sound module
[10:43] <soundray> jandshog: I haven't tried rockmanx's method
[10:44] <Colro> thanks
[10:44] <rockmanx> my method is faster
[10:44] <stefg> NakedDrummer: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/release/ubuntu-7.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent eat this :-)
[10:44] <rockmanx> doesn't need to tar afterwards
[10:44] <MikeG> bensa: Have you ever installed packages via command line using apt-get?
[10:44] <NakedDrummer> stefg: and how does the install of the alternate cd look like roughly? wheres is the diff and why should it work with the alternate?
[10:44] <stefg> !alternate | NakedDrummer
[10:44] <ubotu> NakedDrummer: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[10:44] <NakedDrummer> stefg: thx ill already started the cd thing.. im going to get an empty cd 2morrow
[10:44] <rockmanx> blah ubotu get a cowgirl
[10:44] <rockmanx> tell me what is expert mode you noob
[10:45] <rockmanx> in Ubuntu there's no expert mode
[10:45] <rockmanx> so much to a noob bot
[10:45] <stefg> rockmanx: behave or leave
[10:45] <rockmanx> I'm saying the truth
[10:45] <Soroush83> Is ubuntu the most popular linux?
[10:45] <rockmanx> no
[10:45] <earlmred> anybody know of a program that will write to xls, other than openoffice? openoffice seems to hate opening .csv files for me for some reason...
[10:45] <rockmanx> GNU is the most popular Linux
[10:45] <rockmanx> GNU/Linux
[10:46] <ikonia> rockmanx what are you talking about. Gnu is not a product
[10:46] <RequinB4> talking to a bot is a small sign of madness
[10:46] <rockmanx> IT IS!
[10:46] <rockmanx> GNU is an OS
[10:46] <rockmanx> period
[10:46] <thesaint_> Hi guys
[10:46] <rockmanx> hi saint
[10:46] <MikeG> Yea! A real live troll in the flesh!
[10:46] <ikonia> rockmanx: not it isn't
[10:46] <soundray> jandshog: either way, just extract the libc6 package to a temp directory
[10:46] <NakedDrummer> but 2day ill try the fedora 7 =D i should have it somewhere
[10:46] <thesaint_> errm dose anyone know anything about Bluetooth?
[10:46] <rockmanx> ikonia save a horse ride a cowgirl
[10:46] <RequinB4> GNU is just GUI
[10:46] <Colro> rockmanx: does the debian package work without any problems?
[10:46] <jrib> !offtopic | rockmanx
[10:46] <ubotu> rockmanx: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:46] <rockmanx> what the fuck?
[10:46] <ikonia> RequinB4: its not a gui, lets drop this
[10:46] <rockmanx> GNU is not a GUI
[10:46] <soundray> !ops | rockmanx abusive
[10:46] <ubotu> rockmanx abusive: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[10:47] <RequinB4> ikonia - whoops, read wrong, yes drop
[10:47] <rockmanx> yeah yeah call the ops
[10:47] <thesaint_> Dose anyone know anything about Bluetooth?
[10:47] <rockmanx> omg I said the f word
[10:47] <minus> RequinB4, GNU is not UNIX. Means: GNU is an operativsystem that is not UNIX, just UNIX-like
[10:47] <Soroush83> but there are more peple in this room rather than linux and gnu
[10:47] <soundray> jandshog: are you still here?
[10:47] <RequinB4> anyone willing to help me get a sound module
[10:47] <ikonia> gnu is nt an operating system.
[10:47] <O8768686> how do i view the users list on xchat?
[10:47] <timmahtron> anyone willing to help with a fstab problem?
[10:47] <minus> RequinB4, GNU aqtually stands for GNU is not unix. just so you know
[10:48] <thesaint_> Dose anyone know anything about Bluetooth?
[10:48] <ikonia> timmahtron: whats up
[10:48] <thesaint_> I wana try connect my computer to my phone
[10:48] <RequinB4> RequinB4 - thanks, I mis-read the line
[10:48] <RequinB4> :P
[10:48] <thesaint_> and then try hack it
[10:48] <RequinB4> minus - thanks, i misread the line :P
[10:48] <timmahtron> when I upgraded from 6.x to 7.0 I could no longer use my dvd-rs/old ntfs hard drive
[10:48] <timmahtron> it mounted everything as scsi for some reason
[10:48] <riaal> What port(s) are nfs running on?
[10:48] <minus> RequinB4, ;)
[10:48] <stefg> !uuid | timmahtron
[10:48] <ubotu> timmahtron: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:48] <RequinB4> !modprobe
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <stefg> timmahtron: ubuntu uses libata, now. see ubotu's factoid
[10:49] <ikonia> timmahtron: in 6.10 libata changed to referencing all disks as scsi - then there was an update to change all disk references to uuid based identification
[10:49] <thesaint_> Dose anyone know anything about Bluetooth?
[10:49] <thesaint_> Dose anyone know anything about Bluetooth?
[10:49] <clouder> iirc from this documentary I saw gnu is just a bunch of rewritten unix tools ain't it? and linus beat richard to the punch in making an os that could use these tools?  is that right?
[10:49] <ikonia> thesaint_: I know how to stop saying that every 30 secvonds
[10:49] <RequinB4> !patience | thesaint_
[10:49] <ubotu> thesaint_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:49] <hwMoD> @ your service
[10:50] <thesaint_> I know, But ive been working at this quite abit of time..
[10:50] <thesaint_> And just needed some help
[10:50] <Colro> I did a full install of 7.10 last night and am done backing up my second harddrive, but I have no clue how to format it so Ubuntu can use it, are there any easy to use programs that'll do it?
[10:50] <O8768686> how do i view the list of people in this chat?
[10:50] <thesaint_> if someone come priv chat me or something that would be great
[10:50] <soundray> thesaint_: not an excuse for bad behaviour
[10:50] <jforman> is it possible to install ubuntu server (or desktop) on a sparc machine over the console? or is keyboard/video needed
[10:50] <MrObvious> !ask | thesaint_
[10:50] <ubotu> thesaint_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:50] <ikonia> thesaint_: just wait for a response
[10:51] <stefg> bluetooth | thesaint_
[10:51] <stefg> !bluetooth | thesaint_
[10:51] <O8768686> how do i view the list of people in this chat?
[10:51] <ubotu> thesaint_: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[10:51] <ikonia> jforman: you'll always need a keyboard
[10:51] <Mynes_FOFF> Finally i got windows programs to work on ubunut XD
[10:51] <YBH_1>  /names
[10:51] <Centaur5> Could anybody give me an idea of what to research if my squidguard proxy is allowing me to visit youtube and hotmail but I can't login to e-mail or watch videos. Also windows updates don't go through.
[10:51] <jforman> ikonia: hmm okay. so its not possible to do a serial install at all. is that correct?
[10:51] <riaal> can I block nfs ports in my router? (don't) want it to leak
[10:51] <RequinB4> ok then lets take my question a diff direction - where does 'modprobe' get its libraries/database list
[10:51] <Colro> I did a full install of 7.10 last night and am done backing up my second harddrive, but I have no clue how to format it so Ubuntu can use it, are there any easy to use programs that'll do it?
[10:51] <ikonia> jforman: it will display to the console
[10:51] <O8768686> i want a meneu list so i can always see users in a chat room
[10:52] <stefg> Centaur5: ask #ubuntu-server, too
[10:52] <ikonia> Colro: THE INSTALLER WILL FORMAT IT
[10:52] <bigfuzzyjesus_> when does gusty come out
[10:52] <ikonia> OOPD
[10:52] <ikonia> oops
[10:52] <Centaur5> stefg: Okay, thanks. I didn't know about that channel.
[10:52] <ikonia> apologies
[10:52] <jforman> ikonia: that is my question. okay, thanks
[10:52] <RequinB4> Colro - If you have windows installed try that :P
[10:52] <Colro> ikonia: I have two drives, this is my slave drive I'm wanting to format and the installer didn't touch it.
[10:52] <ikonia> RequinB4: don't recommend false info
[10:52] <Colro> Requin84: I don't.
[10:53] <ikonia> Colro: the installer will format it for you
[10:53] <ikonia> Colro: or do you mean you want to use it with your existing install
[10:53] <RequinB4> ikonia - ...to partition a HDD for ubuntu u can use windows...
[10:53] <Colro> ikonia: Yeah, with my existing install
[10:53] <soundray> jandshog: I can't wait for you to get back for much longer...
[10:53] <Pelo> afternoon folks ,  what is the name for the background images used in nautilus ?
[10:53] <ikonia> RequinB4: he's not asking to partition it
[10:53] <ikonia> Colro: no problem, what file system to you want
[10:53] <RequinB4> ikonia - crap that's the second time today i've done that, I should get some sleep
[10:53] <Colro> ikonia: whatever's "best", ext3 right?
[10:54] <O8768686> why dont i have a menu of users in this chat room????????? im on xchat
[10:54] <fruitbatJim> how can I set up ubuntu to be dual monitor?
[10:54] <stefg> !dualhead | fruitbatJim
[10:54] <NakedDrummer> stefg: i think its because of my s-ata drives... because fedora 7 also cant acces the drives it says cannot acces /dev/root
[10:54] <ubotu> fruitbatJim: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[10:54] <ikonia> Colro: so if your hard disk is sdb1 do "sudo mk2fs -j /dev/sdb1"
[10:54] <brobostigon> something in xorg.conf
[10:54] <Pelo> O8768686,  it's hidden by default, toggle it on and off in the display menu
[10:54] <ikonia> Colro: or open gparted and format through there
[10:54] <fruitbatJim> thanks
[10:54] <Pelo> O8768686,  it's hidden by default, toggle it on and off in the display menu
[10:54] <soundray> ikonia: command not found :)
[10:54] <Pelo> afternoon folks ,  what is the name for the background images used in nautilus ?
[10:54] <ikonia> soundray: which one ?
[10:55] <ikonia> ahh
[10:55] <ikonia> I missed the e
[10:55] <Hilikus_> im having a mount problem
[10:55] <ikonia> Colro: "sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sdb1"
[10:55] <O8768686> ok thnx
[10:55] <Hilikus_> hilikus@mazinger:/media$ sudo mount Jukebox
[10:55] <Hilikus_> mount: /dev/disk/by-uuid/23ac4b70-40f8-4f02-8b5f-90007548f3df: can't read superblock
[10:55] <Colro> ikonia: do i need to put a swap partition on it or anything, or do I only need one on my master drive?
[10:55] <O8768686> pelo, ill look 4 it
[10:55] <soundray> Pelo: what do you mean by "the name"?
[10:55] <Hilikus_> any ideas how to fix it?
[10:55] <P_Kable> does somebody have an ati 9600pro with the 3d running here ? If yes can you post your xorg.conf on pastebin.ca ?
[10:55] <ikonia> Colro: if you have a swap partition, you don't need another one
[10:55] <Hilikus_> its an xfs partition btw
[10:55] <Pelo> can someone running gnom in english tell me that the backround images for nautilus are called in the nautilus menu  ? < soundray
[10:56] <Colro> ikonia: alright, let me find the drive ID
[10:56] <ikonia> P_Kable: xorg.confs are personal, someelses will not work for you unless you have the same system, with the same card, in the same slot using the same monitor
[10:56] <P_Kable> ikonia=>  I know but I just need a model
[10:56] <x0ru> hi, does anyone have experience with screenlets? i have a little problem...
[10:56] <gnurph> what type of a file system can I use that is both readable & writable to both Windows and Ubuntu?  I've got a 500GB USB drive I want to be able to use.
[10:56] <ikonia> P_Kable: "sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg" will get you a base config
[10:56] <darkchr0n0s> how many days for gutsy :(
[10:57] <Pelo> x0ru,  ask anyway, someone might know
[10:57] <ikonia> gnurph: none really, both have risks associated with them
[10:57] <soundray> Pelo: does it have to be feisty?
[10:57] <O8768686> finaly can see the users list :)
[10:57] <P_Kable> ikonia=>  no 3d with this I tried thanks
[10:57] <ikonia> P_Kable: as I said, no-one elses will be benificial to you
[10:57] <O8768686> hey which one is better xchat or xchat-gnome?
[10:57] <dick-richardson> anyone gotten the b-enspirer sound card from bgears working?
[10:57] <Hilikus_> gnurph i would say ntfs
[10:57] <Pelo> soundray,  I wouldn'T think so ,  it's just the generic appelation I am looking for , so I can do a seach
[10:57] <Pelo> serach
[10:57] <Colro> ikonia: what's the command to check what the drive# is? ;x
[10:57] <x0ru> ok, i added the clock 4 times and i only need one, how do i remove the other 3?
[10:57] <gnurph> hilikus:  can ubuntu write to NTFS drives?
[10:57] <ikonia> Colro: how many disks do you have?
[10:57] <Odd-rationale> gnurph: fat 32. Howerver there is i file size limit of 4 GB
[10:57] <YBH_1> xchat is better
[10:57] <ikonia> Colro: or use gparted as a graphial tool
[10:57] <O8768686> ok cool, im on xchat :)
[10:57] <MrObvious> !ntfs-3g | gnurph
[10:57] <ubotu> gnurph: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:57] <Pelo> O8768686,   xchat, xchat-gnome just sucks
[10:57] <Colro> ikonia: two counting the one im wanting to format
[10:57] <ikonia> gnurph: it can but there are risks with it
[10:58] <cox377> hello guys, whats the best way to put ubuntu into hibate?
[10:58] <cox377> hibinate?
[10:58] <ikonia> Colro: it will be /dev/sdb then
[10:58] <jvai_> ..
[10:58] <gnurph> excellent!  thank you mr obvious
[10:58] <Hilikus_> gnurph you need a package but yes, btw it will be available by default on gutsy, so its stable
[10:58] <andax> darkchr0n0s: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/countdown
[10:58] <O8768686> ok good im using xchat :)
[10:58] <soundray> Pelo: I have one called "Simple Ubuntu", the other is "Ubuntu Smooth Chocolate"
[10:58] <dick-richardson> anyone gotten the b-enspirer sound card from bgears working?
[10:58] <ikonia> Colro: but use the gui - so you can visualise it
[10:58] <ikonia> dick-richardson: stop asking every 15 seconds
[10:58] <gnurph> thanks everybody.
[10:58] <MrObvious> gnurph: YW
[10:58] <ikonia> !patience >dick-richardson
[10:58] <Hilikus_> hilikus@mazinger:/media$ sudo mount Jukebox
[10:58] <Hilikus_> mount: /dev/disk/by-uuid/23ac4b70-40f8-4f02-8b5f-90007548f3df: can't read superblock
[10:58] <dick-richardson> ikonia: gotcha
[10:58] <Colro> ikonia: will do, what's the command to see drives anyway though? just for future reference :)
[10:59] <Pelo> soundray,  not those are the wallpapers,  I mean in nautilus > menu > edit > backdrops and emblems >  top one
[10:59] <ikonia> Colro: there isn't one
[10:59] <ikonia> Colro: hence why i told you to use the gui
[10:59] <Pelo> soundray,  I want to know what those little images are called
[10:59] <soundray> Pelo: "Blue Ridge", "Fibres", "Camouflage" etc.?
[11:00] <P_Kable> anybody wants to share its xorg.conf with working 3D and ati6900pro ? please
[11:00] <Colro> ikonia: whatever then =p, installing gparted, thanks :)
[11:00] <Pelo> soundray, yeah,  what are those called, the generic name for it
[11:00] <dick-richardson> ikonia: so...30 minutes?
[11:00] <soundray> Pelo: Patterns
[11:00] <Pelo> soundray,  thanks
[11:00] <ikonia> P_Kable someone elses config is no good to y ou
[11:00] <O8768686> do i have to everytime manualy show the users list on xchat?
[11:00] <ikonia> P_Kable: you need to build a config of your own
[11:00] <soundray> Pelo: so difficult :)
[11:00] <P_Kable> ikonia=>  thanks I know that
[11:00] <ikonia> P_Kable: ok - great, so stop asking for someones config
[11:00] <O8768686> keeps going back to default when i restart
[11:00] <P_Kable> I just want a model grrrrrrrrr
[11:00] <Pelo> O8768686,  no  it's just off when you start using it
[11:01] <Pelo> soundray,  you'd be surprised :-)
[11:01] <P_Kable> ikonia=>  do not tell me what to do please
[11:01] <ikonia> P_Kable: then don't ask for advice
[11:01] <jonbobshinigin> what IRC client do u use?
[11:01] <P_Kable> if you do not want to help just forget me
[11:01] <jonbobshinigin> CChat?
[11:01] <jonbobshinigin> XChat?
[11:01] <timmahtron> OK I read about the UUID and I see those in my fstab for my two ext3 partitions, how do I get my other devices to work again?
[11:01] <ikonia> P_Kable: I'm offering you advice that someone elses xorg is not going to work for you
[11:02] <P_Kable> I can't believe nobody got an ati 9600pro with working 3d here
[11:02] <O8768686> pelo, how do i always have it on, even if i restart xchat?
[11:02] <Pelo> O8768686,  it will be on from now on , you don'T need to worry about it anymore
[11:02] <ikonia> P_Kable: possibly its not supported, have you looked if its supported, and if so which drivers/versions
[11:02] <soundray> timmahtron: the old /dev/ naming still works. If you want to use UUIDs, find them out with blkid
[11:02] <dick-richardson> the direct xorg.conf may not...but the contents may...
[11:02] <m1r> P_Kable, i have it, try ENVY
[11:02] <P_Kable> ikonia=>  I know that, like I said I need a model to get some things out of it and put them in mine ...
[11:02] <soundray> !envy | m1r
[11:02] <P_Kable> m1r=>  envy ?
[11:02] <O8768686> pelo, ok i am going to restart xchat and see. thanks for all ur help :). brb
[11:02] <ikonia> P_Kable: what do you need to get out of it ?
[11:02] <ubotu> m1r: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[11:03] <ikonia> P_Kable: what parts are missing ?
[11:03] <ikonia> P_Kable: I can help you build one,
[11:03] <P_Kable> that guy rubs me the wrong way
[11:03] <m1r> !envy | P_Kable
[11:03] <ubotu> P_Kable: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[11:03] <P_Kable> thanks m1r
[11:03] <bora> !windows
[11:03] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[11:03] <m1r> np
[11:03] <fruitbatJim> I can't find XFree86 in the repos, I've tried apt_get install xfree86...but nothing
[11:03] <O8768686> danm
[11:03] <ikonia> P_Kable: note the line " this script may break your machine very badly!
[11:03] <O8768686> it went back
[11:03] <O8768686> hides
[11:03] <O8768686> :(
[11:03] <soundray> fruitbatJim: why would you want xfree86?
[11:03] <ikonia> fruitbatJim: it may not exist
[11:03] <jonbobshinigin> U guys use XChat?
[11:03] <m1r> ikonia :D
[11:04] <fruitbatJim> soundray:for using dual monitors
[11:04] <thesaint_> guys
[11:04] <P_Kable> I tried install the fglrx through restricted driver on a freshly installed gusty and there is no 3d, I tried with radeon, ati ,same thing m1r
[11:04] <thesaint_> u know on Terminal
[11:04] <timmahtron> ok it mounted fine using the older dev name, however i "do not have permission" to view contents of the ntfs partition, it is shown as a sda2 device
[11:04] <ikonia> m1r: he's not even checked if his cards supported under which driver versions, hence why I didn't recognise envy
[11:04] <dick-richardson> i'd think the 9600 would be old enough that it'd be supported almost completely by the open source drivers
[11:04] <soundray> fruitbatJim: you don't need that. Stick with xorg
[11:04] <thesaint_> it has like ^R Read File
[11:04] <stefg> fruitbatJim: oh... replace all things XFree with xorg .... the info might be a bit dated
[11:04] <thesaint_> how do u use ^R?
[11:04] <ikonia> P_Kable: look if our card iis supported
[11:04] <dano__> Hey all, I'm trying to install the CVS version of rdesktop, and i checked out the repo, and the README says to do a ./configure make makeinstall  but I dont have a ./configure file.. only a configure.ac file.. am I missing something.  I have no idea how to install this
[11:04] <J-_> I'm guessing a computer with a 667mhz processor wouldn't probably have video acceleration... since I cannot find out what type of video card it has. Although, it's a VIA computer with a AC97 soundcard, 40gb HDD, and 256mb RAM
[11:04] <fruitbatJim> xorg?
[11:04] <ikonia> P_Kable: s/our/your
[11:04] <Flannel> fruitbatJim: Ubuntu hasn't used xfree86 since warty
[11:04] <stefg> !xorg
[11:04] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:04] <m1r> i c ,  ikonia
[11:05] <P_Kable> so yeah my card was working fine from breezy to feisty ...
[11:05] <jonbobshinigin> Someone want to help me setup my XChat?
[11:05] <P_Kable> with ati pilot
[11:05] <dick-richardson> P_Kable: you using gutsy?
[11:05] <soundray> J-_: it's possible that it does have 3D accel. Find out the graphics chipset with lspci
[11:05] <O8768686> pelo, i dont think i am turining on/off. i just manualy resize the side bar. maybe thats why?
[11:05] <P_Kable> sure dick-richardson
[11:05] <m1r> P_Kable , try envy, first remove all drivers with envy then install from envy
[11:05] <ikonia> P_Kable: thats not what I asked. Is your card supported, and if so with which drivers/versions
[11:05] <dick-richardson> P_Kable: no help in ubuntu+1?
[11:05] <MeRodent> P_Kable, you do realise that gutsy uses a different xorg.
[11:05] <dave__> hi
[11:05] <ikonia> P_Kable: specific drivers add/remove support for cards
[11:06] <m1r> oh, he is using gutsy
[11:06] <stefg> fruitbatJim: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFree86#Forks_of_XFree86
[11:06] <Pelo> O8768686,  it sholdn'T matter, just make it be visible , how ever you leave it is how it should come back
[11:06] <P_Kable> MeRodent=>  I sure realize that it is the next ubuntu ... so 3d should work anyway
[11:06] <m1r> ups, forget it P_Kabel, go ask in #ubuntu+1 if u using utsy
[11:06] <ikonia> P_Kable: no it shouldn't
[11:06] <davemlinux1> clear
[11:06] <ikonia> P_Kable: just because its a later version, shouldn't mean it should work
[11:07] <hasse_> crimsun, sound problems, have just instlaled some alsa drivers on my buntu, thiinkpad t61p, but if i try to access alsamixer i get a alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[11:07] <O8768686> it doesnt, only for the time being. when i close xchat and reopen the users list bar hides :(
[11:07] <timmahtron> @soundray i mounted my ntfs partition using the dev convention but it still isn't letting me view it any idea?
[11:07] <MeRodent> P_Kable, the problem is that the 3d system is different afaik. You would be better asking for help on #ubuntu+1 as the people on that channel are more likely to understand the problems you may be having.
[11:07] <P_Kable> ikonia=>  seems like you know everything ... are u running gusty ? because it comes with compiz-fusion so 3d should work
[11:07] <stefg> !intelhda | hasse_
[11:07] <ubotu> hasse_: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[11:07] <dave__> i have problems upgrading from edgy to feisty.. any help?
[11:07] <ikonia> P_Kable: yes I have gutsy and it comes with compiz - that doesn't mean 3d SHOULD or WILL work
[11:07] <P_Kable> I run gusty since 3 months on my laptop and it does work
[11:07] <m1r> P_kabel , you are on wrong chanell m8 if u using gutsy, go ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:07] <ikonia> P_Kable: compiz doesn't make 3d work
[11:07] <soundray> timmahtron: no... Have you seen the factoids? Private message...
[11:07] <soundray> !ntfs > timmahtron
[11:08] <P_Kable> ikonia=>  you like to play with words huh ?
[11:08] <soundray> !ntfs-3g > timmahtron
[11:08] <dick-richardson> barring someone using a working b-enspirer sound card...any recommendations for a good quality 'out-of-the-box' sound card?
[11:08] <Pelo> later folks
[11:08] <ikonia> P_Kable: your DRIVERS and XORG make 3d work, which is why I'm advising you to check the driver versions that are supported
[11:08] <m1r> l8r pelo
[11:08] <soundray> timmahtron: leaving now, hope you can fix it
[11:08] <stefg> !elaborate | dave__
[11:08] <ubotu> dave__: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[11:08] <ikonia> P_Kable: I'm not playing with words, I'm giving you clear facts and advice so there is no miss-understanding
[11:08] <hwilde> I have a lot of leftover sshd processes.  Is there any system utility that will clean these up?
[11:08] <P_Kable> ikonia=>  hey cut the sh*t ok ? of course compiz won't make the 3d work
[11:09] <ikonia> P_Kable: watch your language, its uncalled for. If your unable to communicate without being rude, I'll report your abusive behaviour.
[11:09] <Ashfire908> is there a command to check if a network interface is enabled?
[11:09] <soundray> J-_: did you get my line?
[11:09] <hwilde> Ashfire908, ifconfig
[11:09] <hwilde> !ops
[11:09] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[11:09] <ikonia> Ashfire908: there is a gui, or you can look in /etc/interfaces
[11:09] <J-_> soundray: about the lspci?
[11:09] <jrib> hwilde: ?
[11:09] <P_Kable> So I asked one simple thing, and I know what I am diong ok ? anybody want to paste his xorg.conf setup for an ati 6900 pro with working 3d please ?
[11:09] <soundray> J-_: yes
[11:09] <Seveas> hwilde, ?
[11:09] <hwilde> jrib, Seveas, tell these noobs to stop arguing or go to offtopic
[11:09] <ikonia> P_Kable check the drivers support, thats the key for you
[11:10] <J-_> yeah, brb =P soundray
[11:10] <Seveas> hwilde, please watch your language...
[11:10] <dave__> i have the feisty cd, but it does not show an upgrade option when it boots, i went over ubuntu forums, and they recommend to press alt+f2 and then: gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade", but when I press alt+f2 nothing happens
[11:10] <Seveas> P_Kable, behave
[11:10] <Flannel> dave__: do you have the alternate CD or the desktop cD?
[11:10] <arthur78> bulmer: Tput doesn't help
[11:10] <arthur78> bulmer:  :)
[11:10] <hwilde> anybody else have a problem with sshd processes not dying?
[11:11] <dave__> The cd I have is the one I requested from shipit
[11:11] <ikonia> hwilde: dying at what point ?
[11:11] <dave__> Flannel: Whats the alternate cd?
[11:11] <Flannel> dave__: You can't upgrade with that (the desktop CD) only do a fresh install over your old one.
[11:11] <hwilde> ikonia, they never die.  they just hold on to the memory forever til the sytem doesnt respond
[11:11] <ikonia> hwilde: I've not seen that behaviour. Do you mean incoming or outgoing connections ?
[11:11] <stefg> dave__: you are aware that you'll require an alternate CD, not a Desktop-CD for upgrade ? And i wouldn't use a CD anyway, but do an online upgrade, the CD is outdated already
[11:11] <Seveas> hwilde, try holy water or kill -9, whichever wirks best
[11:11] <arthur78> bulmer: I already searched a lot and still couldnt change my background color in bash (gnome)
[11:12] <dave__> Flannel: OH!
[11:12] <Siph0n> hey when i plug my verizon motorola slvr phone into my computer with a usb cable, a /dev/bus/usb/001/002 device is created, but all the moto4lin tutorials say that a /dev/ttyACM0 device should be created... any ideas how to make this happen? or if it would make a difference?
[11:12] <Flannel> dave__: The alternate CD isn't a liveCD, its textmode and installs via dpkg (its got a bunch of packages on the CD), those packages allow you to upgrade with that CD
[11:12] <hwilde> Seveas, i am bouncing outgoing connections with nc and it never returns eof.  I have a script that kill -9 but sometimes it kills stuff that is active.  is there any builtin utility to get idle time?  ps does not provide idle
[11:12] <arthur78> bulmer: I want to change it from white to somewhat darker...
[11:12] <dave__> stefg: I didnt want to upgrade online due to the time it will take to upgrade
[11:13] <Seveas> hwilde, that trick is exactly what causes the sshd's not to die :)
[11:13] <dave__> stefg: I mean. download time
[11:13] <Flannel> dave__: well, even with the CD upgrade, you'll still need to update to current packages
[11:13] <hwilde> Siph0n, run "dmesg" and see if it gave you a tty
[11:13] <stefg> dave__: it will be quicker than a CD download
[11:13] <Seveas> I'm facing that problem myself as wekk
[11:13] <Seveas> well*
[11:13] <bulmer> arthur78: tput setaf 1
[11:13] <thesaint_> What do i do in terminal with ^R
[11:13] <dave__> stefg: you think?
[11:14] <thesaint_> What do i do in terminal with ^R
[11:14] <J-_> I'm guessing, "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems Cyberblade/il (rev 6a) is the video card? Can I get accel going on it?
[11:14] <hwilde> Seveas, yeah it sucks...  I have a script that counts the sshd processes, and if it's over 300 it kills the top half.  but sometimes they are parent processes of someone who is actually still logged in
[11:14] <Pici> thesaint_: ctrl-r
[11:14] <dave__> Flannel: so u think im better of by doing it online?
[11:14] <stefg> dave__: and you'll find that naerly half or the packages need an update afterwards... so you d/l a 700 MB CD, upgrade and then d/l another 500 MB in updates ... quite inefficient
[11:14] <sgtkwol> anyone in here have some compiz-fusion experience?
[11:14] <hwilde> !compiz | sgtkwol
[11:14] <ubotu> sgtkwol: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:14] <thesaint_> thanks Pici
[11:15] <jandshog> soundray: I did that with the bash .deb and the system works now :D Thanks for the help!
[11:15] <hasse_> is it possible to set make to -j5 as default somewhere ?
[11:15] <sgtkwol> I can't check or uncheck any options in the compiz config
[11:15] <arthur78> bulmer: Yes, but this didn't change the background color :(
[11:15] <xiaden> ugh.  i have a problem with mounting my Ipod. it sais it can't mount it because of a bad mount name, or something like that...
[11:15] <sgtkwol> even if I change options in the gconf-editor, nothing changes
[11:15] <vvd> (j #ubuntu+1
[11:16] <vvd> :)
[11:16] <dave__> should I wait for gutsy then?
[11:16] <bulmer> arthur78: did you google for tput options?
[11:16] <poningru> xiaden: what exactly does it say?
[11:16] <Siph0n> hwilde, when i plug my phone in and type dmesg all i see is usb1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3, and another line that says usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[11:16] <xiaden> hold on a second...
[11:16] <poningru> xiaden: bad mount point?
[11:16] <poningru> or bad label?
[11:16] <arthur78> bulmer: no, only searched througn the man page.
[11:16] <hwilde> Siph0n, that sounds like your system is not recognizing hte phone.   try  "lshw"  and see if it shows up there
[11:16] <poningru> Siph0n: what are you trying to do?
[11:16] <bulmer> arthur78: try tput sgr0
[11:17] <Siph0n> someone mentioned the cdc_acm module, so should dmesg say that instead of uhci_hcd
[11:17] <arthur78> bulmer: I'll do that right now
[11:17] <Siph0n> poningru: ultimately get moto4lin to work
[11:17] <hwilde> Siph0n, lsmod  should show the cdc_acm module if its active
[11:17] <dave__> Flannel: should I wait for gutsy then?
[11:17] <poningru> which phone do you have?
[11:17] <xiaden> poningru: Mount point cannont contain the following charicters
[11:17] <poningru> dave__: the rc is out
[11:17] <poningru> you should try it out
[11:17] <xiaden> and lists off a few charicter examples
[11:17] <poningru> its safe for everybody
[11:17] <dave__> whats the rc?
[11:18] <poningru> dave__: release candidate
[11:18] <Pici> dave__: I'd wait.
[11:18] <MeRodent> dave__, release candidate
[11:18] <dave__> lol
[11:18] <poningru> as in pretty sure this is what they will release
[11:18] <dave__> Thanks
[11:18] <arthur78> bulmer: Last command didn't work
[11:18] <poningru> dave__: I would download and try it out
[11:18] <stefg> poningru, dave__ : i won't agree. there are still some serious issues wuth gutsy
[11:18] <bulmer> arthur78 thats to reset it to default
[11:19] <xiaden> poningru: soo... what do i do? bad
[11:19] <poningru> stefg: well those will be in stable then
[11:19] <hwilde> Seveas, what I don't understand is the netcat processes goes away...
[11:19] <poningru> xiaden: rename your ipod
[11:19] <xiaden> ???
[11:19] <Siph0n> hwilde, lshw shows my Motorola phone...
[11:19] <poningru> in windows did you name your ipod something?
[11:19] <xiaden> it won't mount to do that
[11:19] <arthur78> bulmer: yes, it did that..
[11:19] <poningru> I know
[11:19] <bulmer> arthur78: something like this..   echo -e '\E[37;44m'"\033Contact List\033"
[11:19] <stefg> poningru: so this would make gutsy a reason to leave ubuntu for me :-\
[11:19] <dave__> Lets say I decide to wait for gutsy, What is better? Upgrade or Fresh install from Edgy?
[11:19] <poningru> xiaden: you can do it with e2label
[11:19] <xiaden> yhea, i named it : Lucian's Ipod =P
[11:19] <hwilde> Siph0n, well that is a good sign.  it is being recognized you just have to find out where
[11:19] <poningru> stefg: great
[11:20] <poningru> xiaden: yeah try changing that name
[11:20] <poningru> to something simple
[11:20] <xiaden> poningru:mk sec
[11:20] <poningru> like without the apostraphe
[11:20] <Seveas> hwilde, maybe the user has some forwardings that won't be killed? Try disallowing X forwarding
[11:20] <Odd-rational1> Question: When I go to System -> Quit, I no longer have the option to shutdown or restart. The buttons are not there anymore. Does anyone know how to get them back? Thanks!
[11:20] <poningru> stefg: whats wrong?
[11:20] <dldroopy> lu les gars!!
[11:20] <dave__> Lets say I decide to wait for gutsy, What is better? Upgrade or Fresh install from Edgy?
[11:20] <poningru> !fr | dldroopy
[11:20] <ubotu> dldroopy: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:20] <arthur78> bulmer: It echoed "Contact list" with white on blue
[11:21] <dano__> Hey all, I'm trying to install the CVS version of rdesktop, and i checked out the repo, and the README says to do a ./configure make makeinstall  but I dont have a ./configure file.. only a configure.ac file.. am I missing something.  I have no idea how to install this
[11:21] <vvd> dave__: fresh install is more fail save
[11:21] <bulmer> arthur78: right
[11:21] <vvd> dave__: update is easy and quicker
[11:21] <arthur78> bulmer: what i do then? :)
[11:21] <stefg> poningru: tty's not working in fb-resos s the worst one. random kernel freezes on my laptop, small gnome/gdm  issues all over (possibly kernel related, too)
[11:21] <vvd> dave__: i would always make a fresh install myself
[11:21] <Siph0n> hwilde, i didnt see cdc_acm in lsmod
[11:21] <bulmer> arthur78: i forgot, what do you want again?
[11:21] <arthur78> bulmer: can i somehow put that in my .bashrc?
[11:22] <poningru> stefg: did you file bug reports?
[11:22] <stefg> poningru: around 10 ....
[11:22] <poningru> stefg: dont know what to tell you
[11:22] <poningru> sorry
[11:22] <arthur78> bulmer: Oh! :) I want to change my gnome's terminal from default white to, for example, black
[11:23] <Shin_Gouki> hello i
[11:23] <poningru> dave__: if you are upgrading from edgy then I would do a fresh install
[11:23] <arthur78> bulmer: I mean terminal's background color
[11:23] <Shin_Gouki> hello i want to run a x264 codec video how do i do that?
[11:23] <poningru> arthur78: its in edit profiles
[11:23] <Ash908> is there a program that can disgunish network interfaces between disabled, enabled and not connected, and enabled and connected
[11:23] <MeRodent> arthur78, choose edit/profiles from the menu.
[11:23] <stefg> poningru: i know what's going on, i understand enough of ubuntu to be able to see the problem.... but sadly not to fix them
[11:23] <hwilde> Seveas, x forwarding is already off by default, and the sshd processes have no user assigned
[11:23] <poningru> Ash908: distinguish? what do you mean?
[11:23] <thesaint_> Dose anyone know how to hack with bluetooth devices?
[11:23] <poningru> thesaint_: hack?
[11:24] <poningru> what do you mean?
[11:24] <bulmer> arthur78: do you have a menu on the top?
[11:24] <MeRodent> arthur78, edit the default profile and change colors. You can also set effects to transparent background as well.
[11:24] <thesaint_> Errm, like i got my cell phone 'Mobile Phone' next to me
[11:24] <thesaint_> i wana try hack it
[11:24] <Shin_Gouki> I need help with x264 video playback, ideas?!
[11:24] <thesaint_> Like read the contacts on it
[11:24] <vvd> anyone else uses rxvt-uncode and has some distortion in it when another window is above the terminal?
[11:24] <thesaint_> without my letting myself in
[11:24] <xiaden> poningru: e2label is not in synaptic or whatever the normal one is...
[11:24] <poningru> thesaint_: you are not going to get help for that here
[11:24] <thesaint_> ok
[11:24] <poningru> xiaden: err I would go back in windows and do it
[11:25] <thesaint_> btw when i go
[11:25] <poningru> thats much safer since I dont know what it involves
[11:25] <arthur78> bulmer: Oh, Jesus, Yes I HAVE IT
[11:25] <hwilde> !bluetooth | thesaint_
[11:25] <ubotu> thesaint_: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:25] <Ashfire908> poningru, ifconfig ppp0 only tells me either the connection is enabled and connected, or it's not connected and/or enabled
[11:25] <xiaden> poningru: ok thanks
[11:25] <thesaint_> Applications > Internet > kbtobexclient (It dosent do anything)
[11:25] <Hilikus_> hey guys, theres a doc in the ubuntu forums that tells me to add this to my sources files
[11:25] <Hilikus_> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/cjsmo/ubuntu gutsy main restricted universe multiverse
[11:25] <arthur78> MeRodent: Thank you, I finally found how to do that :)
[11:25] <Hilikus_> why does it say gutsy in it?? im still using feisty
[11:26] <arthur78> bulmer: Thank you one more time.
[11:26] <poningru> Hilikus_: then you shouldnt add that
[11:26] <bulmer> arthur78: okay, np
[11:26] <J-_> Sorry I lagged out a while back, but yeah, where can I find out if my video card can use accel?
[11:26] <wolferine> then put feisty in it
[11:26] <Jesus> arthur78, congrats
[11:26] <Hilikus_> poningru that means the pckg is only available for gutsy?
[11:26] <thesaint_> Applications > Internet > kbtobexclient (It dosent do anything)
[11:26] <poningru> Hilikus_: yes
[11:26] <wolferine> its not rocket science :)
[11:26] <arthur78> bulmer: :)
[11:26] <poningru> what are you trying to install?
[11:26] <Hilikus_> ampache
[11:26] <arthur78> Jesus: :)
[11:26] <MeRodent> arthur78, no probs. I only caught the discussion after you started talking about tput or I would have told you earlier.
[11:26] <poningru> eh?
[11:26] <hasse_> i have major problems to get my sound card in my thinkpad to work, have almost tried everything, desperate
[11:26] <poningru> Hilikus_: ampache?
[11:27] <Hilikus_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AmpachePackage
[11:27] <poningru> whats that?
[11:27] <Hilikus_> mp3 server
[11:27] <arthur78> MeRodent: :) okay
[11:27] <poningru> huh cool
[11:27] <thesaint_> Applications > Internet > kbtobexclient (It dosent do anything)
[11:27] <Shin_Gouki> hello i have problems with video playback can ANYONE help me?!
[11:27] <Hilikus_> anyway, i dont want to install it from source
[11:27] <ratpoison> how can I list just the empty folders in terminal?
[11:27] <Hilikus_> and there seems to be a pckg but i dont know if its only for gutsy
[11:28] <poningru> Hilikus_: yeah you can install it in feisty but it has the distinct possiblity of breaking everything
[11:28] <IdleOne> Hilikus_: what package?
[11:28] <poningru> IdleOne: ampache
[11:28] <juanElaw> Hello
[11:28] <Hilikus_> IdleOne ampache
[11:28] <Colro> I just formatting my slave hard drive with mkfs.ext3. How can I mount it and such now? Is it possible to add it to my home folder's size?
[11:28] <IdleOne> !info ampache
[11:28] <ubotu> Package ampache does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:28] <Flannel> hasse_: Looks like audio works in Gutsy: http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_7.04_%28Feisty_Fawn%29_on_a_ThinkPad_T61#Audio
[11:29] <IdleOne> Hilikus_: seems it is in gutsy.wait a week or so and then upgrade to gutsy and you will have it. not worth the risk of breaking your install
[11:29] <cox377> can some plz tell me what the best VI command terminal is
[11:29] <Flannel> hasse_: But theres a few other methods there to fix it in feisty
[11:29] <Hilikus_> IdleOne ill install it from source then
[11:29] <hasse_> Flannel, tried that as well,
[11:29] <poningru> !mount | Colro
[11:29] <ubotu> Colro: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:30] <Hilikus_> whats the deal with source installs again? at some point youre supposed to create a package instead of make install or something??
[11:30] <Inspiron> hallo
[11:30] <Flannel> hasse_: have you tried a gutsy liveCD?
[11:30] <TUXedomember> is there something like the sandisk launch pad for ubuntu?
[11:30] <hasse_> yes, thats what i just installed to day
[11:30] <cox377> VI anyone?
[11:30] <hasse_> Flannel, ^
[11:30] <Opa1> anybody here know how to find/modify the Meta-Package "Xubuntu-desktop" ? I want to install 20 PC's with XFCE4 but no Office-stuff. Am currently using PXE and preseeding and in the postinstall removing all the stuff I didn't want.
[11:30] <poningru> cox377: what do you mean?
[11:30] <hasse_> cox377, yes ?
[11:30] <hwilde> !ask | cox377
[11:30] <ubotu> cox377: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:30] <hwilde> :q!
[11:31] <J-_> Can I get graphic acceleration with a trident microsystems cyberblade/il (rev 6a)?
[11:31] <stefg> TUXedomember: you mean a way to encrypt USB stick content ?
[11:31] <hwilde> !hardware | J-_
[11:31] <ubotu> J-_: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:31] <juanElaw> anyone know the command to re/configure a new NIC in an ubuntu server?
[11:31] <Flannel> Opa1: install ubuntu-standard with xfce4 and xserver-xorg
[11:31] <J-_> hwilde: ah yes that's what I was looking for, thanks.
[11:31] <cox377> hasse_: basically, i'm following a guide and states to use VI terminal opposed to normal
[11:31] <poningru> juanElaw: yeah either edit /etc/network/interfaces
[11:31] <poningru> or use ifconfig
[11:31] <hwilde> J-_, on the list of video cards there is a column for 3d  etc
[11:31] <poningru> juanElaw: I would just go with the gui though
[11:31] <pengui1> Hello?
[11:32] <poningru> system->admin->network
[11:32] <hasse_> then use a regular one like neverano or joe or what
[11:32] <poningru> cox377: eh? what guide?
[11:32] <TUXedomember> no i want something like to launch pad that sandisk has on their u3 drives, someway to put ubuntu apps on the flash drive, and have a menu that look's nice and has all of the app's on it so u don't have to explore the drive to find that app's
[11:32] <hasse_> Flannel, yes i installed that today
[11:32] <poningru> cox377: what does it tell you to do?
[11:32] <poningru> is it to edit files?
[11:32] <Opa1> Flannel: `grep xfce4 /var/lib/dpkg/available` returns nothing ;-(
[11:32] <pengui1> /exit
[11:33] <cox377> poningru: it's not actually directly ubuntu related - it's for a linux firewall, but i'm assuming it's same same isn't it?
[11:33] <juanElaw> poningru: my server is already setup without any gui, I'm trying to keep it that way.  I just added a new nic.  I'll try the interfaces
[11:33] <poningru> cox377: it should be
[11:33] <Flannel> Opa1: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/x11/xfce4  It's in universe
[11:33] <cox377> poningru: whats a VI terminal then?
[11:33] <poningru> juanElaw: ah gotcha
[11:33] <poningru> cox377: vi is a text editor
[11:33] <Flannel> cox377: Most likely someone who doesn't know what theyre talking about
[11:33] <hwilde> juanElaw, run "ifconfig -a"  find the interfacve name, add it to /etc/network/interfaces
[11:34] <cox377> poningru: so just use terminal as per usual then?
[11:34] <Zirg> hey folks. i need to find out (via dpkg) to find out what package install a piece of software.
[11:34] <stefg> TUXedomember: nothing premade.... that's just not the Linux way. usually apps need shared libs so there's no point in installing a second system on a USB drive
[11:34] <juanElaw> hwilde: thanks.  don't know why I was thinking it was going to be some 'dpkg' type of command
[11:34] <Zirg> i want to find out what package installed iwconfig
[11:34] <Zirg> but i'm blanking out
[11:34] <poningru> cox377: yes, but I would like to take a look at the guide before giving a definate answer
[11:34] <hwilde> Zirg, iwconfig is part of hte kernel i think
[11:34] <juanElaw> hwilde: I'll go try the 'ifconfig -a'  thanks.
[11:34] <Opa1> Flannel: OK - then I need to smarten up my apt-sources before go looking then ... is doable at pxeboot / preseed time ?
[11:35] <cox377> poningru: that's cool, here is the link
[11:35] <cox377> http://community.smoothwall.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23879&highlight=samba
[11:35] <hwilde> cox377, vi is just a text editor.  you could use nano if its easier
[11:36] <cox377> hwilde: that's cool, now i've mentioed it i think i've asked a dumb question - cheers anyway
[11:36] <Colro> what's the command to list all of my devices?
[11:36] <Flannel> Opa1: should be, yeah.  Just need to grab universe
[11:36] <stefg> Colro: lshw
[11:36] <hwilde> cox377, just substitute nano for vi in those instructions and you will be fine
[11:36] <Geekberg> I have an issue, I can only load to a black screen with the mouse timer spinning.
[11:37] <Opa1> Flannel: thanks - it's 23:18 here now - so I think I'll try that again tommow ;-)
[11:37] <poningru> cox377: yes
[11:37] <poningru> you should be fine
[11:37] <Geekberg> Im not sure but I think it has something to do with VMware I was attempting to run my Virtual machine off of another hdd.
[11:37] <poningru> nn guys going to sleep
[11:37] <Geekberg> any ideas how to fix this without reinstalling?
[11:38] <hwilde> Geekberg, CTRL+ALT+F1,   login,   sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:38] <Tarkus> hey, im thinking of getting a laptop for basic use (media, internet, python/php scripting, etc..) and i dont want to have to buy a windows license. i just want the hardware. nothing else.. any suggestions on what i could get to save me some money? (im not looking for a powerfull system, just something very inexpensive that will get the job done)
[11:38] <Tarkus> any suggestions?
[11:38] <Geekberg> I tried that but I get command not found
[11:38] <hwilde> Tarkus,   www.dell.com/open
[11:39] <Flannel> Tarkus: check out system76 as another possibility
[11:39] <Zirg> madwifi...what is required in ubuntu to make  it run?
[11:39] <hwilde> Geekberg, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:39] <stefg> Tarkus: dell offers ubuntu-machines, as does system http://www.system76.com/
[11:39] <Tarkus> hwilde, Flannel: thanks.
[11:39] <Zirg> got a fellow here that moved OFF of his atheros to an (shudder) intel, because the madwifi didn't come up
[11:40] <hwilde> Zirg, lsmod | grep ath_pci         that is the madwifi module
[11:40] <bulmer> who was that looking for iwconfig? to which package it belongs?
[11:40] <hwilde> Zirg looking for iwconfig
[11:41] <darkchr0n0s> how do i add multiple clocks to my GNOME ?
[11:41] <Hilikus_> im i supposed to create packages for software i compile from source and install the package?
[11:41] <hwilde> darkchr0n0s, right click, add to panel, clock
[11:41] <darkchr0n0s> i want multiple clocks with different timezones
[11:42] <PriceChild> Hilikus_, no. The chances are that its already packages.
[11:42] <Geekberg> hwilde, I did try that but looking at my sheet that I wrote the command on I tried dkpg Ha, ha, reminds me of when I received a call on tech support and the eu said that they had a dialog box up and they could not get into Windows for the past 3 days.  The dialog box said do you wish to continue Ok or Cancel!
[11:42] <bulmer> Hilikus_: only if you wanted it distributed
[11:42] <Hilikus_> PriceChild there arent, thats why im compiling it
[11:42] <Zirg> hwilde, right, but it's NOT seeing it! it's as though the default install of ubuntu didn't install the madwifi stuff.   :-(
[11:42] <stefg> darkchr0n0s: you'd have to check if screenlets or gdesklets has widgets with this functionality. Certainly you only have *one* system time, so you need clocks with an offset
[11:42] <PriceChild> Hilikus_, what is it?
[11:42] <Hilikus_> bulmer otherwise i shouldnt? i read somewhere that you should for all of them, because it would make uninstalling them easierc
[11:43] <Geekberg> Hwilde I will retry, I have to reboot the had to run the live cd to try and resolve the issue.  thank you
[11:43] <Siph0n> is there a client like mIRC for linux? i don't like that i have to add a different account for each server i connect to.....
[11:43] <Hilikus_> PriceChild ampache
[11:43] <PriceChild> Hilikus_, checked debian too?
[11:43] <bulmer> Hilikus_: you can compile a hello world c program and dont need to create a package to use it
[11:43] <PriceChild> Hilikus_, i've heard of that so i'm sure its ready somewhere
[11:44] <PriceChild> Hilikus_, http://ampache.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1365&p=1
[11:45] <bulmer> Siph0n: xchat  and to choose a server just type  /server the.newnet.net
[11:45] <exp3ctr0> Gente ! Algum ae tem uma configurao do Compiz ja pronta s para importar?
[11:45] <stefg> !br
[11:45] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:45] <Konam> am I the only one who can't set to not format the partition in the manual partition manager installing through the live CD
[11:45] <exp3ctr0> Gente ! Algum ae tem uma configurao do Compiz ja pronta s para importar?
[11:46] <Hilikus_> PriceChild they say its a beta package and shouldnt be distributed
[11:46] <PriceChild> Hilikus_, they've done the hard work.
[11:46] <juanElaw> thanks both.  eth0 became eth1.  made the change in /etc/network/interfaces and all is well
[11:46] <PriceChild> Hilikus_, second post from the bottom or so looks promising
[11:46] <stefg> !br | exp3ctr0
[11:46] <ubotu> exp3ctr0: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:46] <PriceChild> Hilikus_, just grab their source and use it for ubuntu
[11:47] <Hilikus_> PriceChild i didnt know it was ok to use debian packages, i always thought it was a last resort
[11:47] <PriceChild> Hilikus_, don't use their binarys
[11:47] <Konam> no one knows
[11:47] <Konam> ?
[11:47] <PriceChild> Hilikus_, grab the source that is already packaged and build it for ubuntu
[11:47] <sorush20> hi .. I don't get a confirmation when I do this wget -q -O - https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | apt-key add -
[11:47] <Hilikus_> PriceChild ok, i see
[11:48] <sorush20> gpg: no writable keyring found: eof
[11:48] <sorush20> that is what I get
[11:48] <stefg> sorush20: that's good. do 'sudo apt-get update'. do you get messages about missing keys?
[11:49] <sorush20> stefg: yes
[11:49] <exp3ctr0> go go go
[11:49] <smaugslayer> any notebook recommendations for ubuntu?  needs to support WPA - preferrably with minimal issues.
[11:49] <sorush20> gpg: no writable keyring found: eof
[11:49] <Hilikus_> PriceChild you missed my msgs from earlier but theres also a package that i think is meant for gutsy, is it better to grab the source package for debian or the normal one for gutsy?
[11:49] <PriceChild> Hilikus_, well you're not on gutsy
[11:50] <PriceChild> Hilikus_, so grab the source and use it to build a deb for your system
[11:50] <Flannel> !prevu | Hilikus_
[11:50] <ubotu> Hilikus_: prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details
[11:50] <Hilikus_> PriceChild im not on debian either
[11:50] <Colro> I just formatted and mounted a second harddrive, is there any way to add its size to my home folder or anything like that? Currently I can only access it with root
[11:50] <PriceChild> Hilikus_, you're on feisty?
[11:50] <Hilikus_> PriceChild yes
[11:51] <PriceChild> Hilikus_, so.... grab the source and build a deb out of it... use their hard work with the debian/ ready
[11:51] <Hilikus_> ok, ill do that
[11:51] <source_scrash> #fcld in freenode
[11:51] <rockets> Anybody know of a way to swith desktops with mouse gestures?
[11:51] <source_scrash> unix hacker and linux hackers
[11:52] <sorush20> help people I can't get in pleawse
[11:52] <stefg> sorush20: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SecureApt might help to track your prblem
[11:52] <sorush20> this key is playing with me
[11:52] <bhagman88> hi
[11:52] <bhagman88> can I install ubuntu on a xeon proccessor?
[11:52] <Nicark> ubuntu doesn't has the hal daemon, right?
[11:52] <bhagman88> sepecifically a machine like thishttp://www.pcsurplusonline.com/viewprod.cfm?ID=13591
[11:52] <bhagman88> http://www.pcsurplusonline.com/viewprod.cfm?ID=13591
[11:53] <Ax-Ax> Was it 18 october?
[11:53] <m-reek> ()
[11:53] <deviantintegral> could someone explain to me the noapic boot option? I have to use it when I boot from a livecd, but not from the hard drive. I'm wondering if it might be related to my IO-related kernel panics.
[11:53] <sorush20> !googledesktop
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about googledesktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <sorush20> where do I get google desktop beagel is bad]
[11:54] <Ax-Ax> !gutsy
[11:54] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:54] <Ax-Ax> 4 days left
[11:54] <bhagman88> can I run ubuntu on a Xeon Proccessor?
[11:54] <DjViper> sorush20: www.google.com
[11:54] <sorush20> .deb source
[11:54] <itsocj> test
[11:55] <DjViper> sorush20: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/06/28/how-to-install-setup-and-use-google-desktop-search-in-ubuntu/
[11:55] <DjViper> you should try google some time :P
[11:55] <Colro> I just formatted and mounted a second harddrive, is there any way to add its size to my home folder or anything like that? Currently I can only access it with root
[11:56] <DjViper> !mount | Colro
[11:56] <ubotu> Colro: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:56] <Colro> What about in gutsy?
[11:57] <scoot> hello. Is there a 7.10 release for the PS3?
[11:57] <stefg> !ppc | scoot
[11:57] <ubotu> scoot: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[11:57] <codecaine> linux runs like crap on ps3 scoot
[11:57] <DjViper> Colro: please ask gutsy related questions in #ubuntu+1
[11:57] <hwilde> !topic
[11:57] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[11:58] <source_scrash>  todos los fanaticos de unix y linux vallan a #fcld en freenode hay podran encontrar expertos en cualquier area de la computacion
[11:58] <hwilde> Colro, what did you mount it as
[11:58] <MeRodent> !es | source_scrash
[11:58] <ubotu> source_scrash: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:58] <hwilde> !es | source_scrash
[11:58] <hwilde> darn you beat me
[11:58] <MeRodent> lol
[11:58] <underwatercow> Why won't Ubuntu let me empty my trash? Permissions shouldn't matter to an item in the trash.
[11:58] <stefg> !spam | source_scrash
[11:58] <DjViper> nimble fingers
[11:58] <ubotu> source_scrash: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[11:59] <MeRodent> underwatercow, they still matter as trash doesn't have root access.
[11:59] <underwatercow> MeRodent: So how do I empty my trash?
[11:59] <Colro> hwilda: just /media/hd2
[11:59] <Squid_> how do I export a variable on the graphic interface?
[11:59] <Hilikus_> PriceChild so how does it work to download the source, apt-get source?
[11:59] <underwatercow> MeRodent: Aside from using the terminal that is... or is that the only way?
[11:59] <hwilde> Colro, chown -R user:user  /media/hd2      and you will have access as user
[11:59] <PriceChild> Hilikus_, get the source that they have gotten ready and packaged?
[12:00] <Siph0n> is wine better at playing windows games than vmware?... i never see posts about vmware in the game section of the ubuntuforums, only wine...
[12:00] <Hilikus_> PriceChild yes, how do i make sure i dont installed a precompiled binary
[12:00] <DjViper> Siph0n: you can't play 3d accelerated games through wmvare
[12:00] <stefg> !games | Siph0n
[12:00] <ubotu> Siph0n: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[12:00] <hwilde> Siph0n, wine is just a windows emulator,  vmware is actually running a separate virtual machine
[12:00] <MeRodent> underwatercow, cd ~/.Trash       sudo rm *
[12:00] <PriceChild> Hilikus_, because you're downloading a tar, not a deb
[12:01] <source_scrash> !es|source_scrash
[12:01] <Hilikus_> PriceChild i thought you told me to download a packaged version, not a tar
[12:01] <Siph0n> thanx for the clarification on that
[12:01] <MeRodent> source_scrash,   /join #ubuntu-es
[12:01] <Colro> hwilde: that only gives me read access though, right?
[12:01] <PriceChild> Hilikus_, no, you want to get the source... and build it into a deb