[00:00] <aveilleux> harridon_: No
[00:00] <aveilleux> harrison_*
[00:01] <harrison_> what is up with #ubuntu?
[00:01] <smeag0l> yes just maniged to get a system malfunction device shutdown in 10 secs on my nokia n900 :-(
[00:01] <harrison_> did you do that or did it do it itself?
[00:02] <smeag0l> i did it
[00:03] <harrison_> did you want that to happen?
[00:05] <smeag0l> no an error ocured i reset to system default rebooted fine and wan't recover my safety backup
[00:06] <smeag0l> so now i'm googleing like a mad man
[00:07] <smeag0l> *wanted to restore my backup
[01:21] <Cl1FF> I am currently running Ubuntu Lucid 64bit, can I install ArchLinux desktop environment and choose between them at startup without damaging my Ubuntu? If yes, How?
[01:21] <zkriesse> You should be able to do a dual boot with arch and Ubuntu
[01:22] <seidos> yeah, and I've never done it, so I couldn't say.  You could try searching the web to see if anyone out there has done it successfully, Cl1FF
[01:22] <seidos> Cl1FF, would running archlinux in a virtual desktop work for you?
[01:23] <Cl1FF> zkriesse, not installing it in separate partition, im talkin about having them both in the same partition and choosing them at the login screen
[01:24] <Cl1FF> seidos, does virtual desktop work well? How is it?
[01:24] <seidos> Cl1FF, I liked it when I used to be able to use it, heh.  But when it was working on my system, I thought it was awesome.
[02:31] <dan9818> I bought a western digital hard drive, 1 TB, and there is some nonsense WD Smartware software on it as a CD some how, and i just want to erase the drive entirely, including the "CD" (i think it is a virtual cd?) and format it as one big partition to FAT32, i tried using disk utility, but it said the virtual CD was "read-only" and i was wondering if there was any software i could download, or anything i could do to just over-ride
[02:34] <harrison> Can you use gparted
[02:34] <aveilleux> dan9818: Judging that you used "Disk Utility" I assume you're on a Mac..?
[02:36] <dan9818> um, I have Ubuntu on an IBM
[02:36] <dan9818> but I do own Macs
[02:36] <harrison> cool
[02:36] <aveilleux> dan9818: Ubuntu comes with a Disk Utility? I've never seen it
[02:37] <harrison> dan9818 have you ever used gparted?
[02:37] <dan9818> no
[02:37] <dan9818> but I can if you need me to
[02:37] <dan9818> but yes, mine does have disk utility
[02:37] <harrison> Open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[02:37] <aveilleux> dan9818: The easiest way to edit partition information would be GParted
[02:37] <dan9818> ok
[02:38] <phillw> !gparted
[02:38] <ubot2> gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[02:38] <aveilleux> Out of curiosity, what program does Ubuntu use and call "Disk Utility"?
[02:39] <phillw> aveilleux: it is psypalmset from memory, let me go look it up
[02:40] <phillw> aveilleux: palimpsest
[02:41] <aveilleux> Interesting. I've never seen it before.
[02:41] <harrison> dan9818: do you have it installed?
[02:41] <phillw> I've used that to 'nuke' a hard drive :p
[02:41] <harrison> phillw: ever heard of DBAN?
[02:42] <dan9818> yes, it just finished
[02:42] <harrison> dan9818: good
[02:42] <harrison> From the terminal type sudo gparted
[02:43] <aveilleux> harrison, dan9818: No, use gksudo gparted
[02:43] <phillw> harrison I try to stick with what we have, life is hard enough for my brain cells. I have a gparted CD, but a standard ubuntu LiveCD has always worked for me, I only use the disk utilities for usb mounted hard drives.
[02:43] <aveilleux> harrison, dan9818: gksudo is a different version of sudo that's designed for graphical applications
[02:44] <harrison> phillw please repeat please.
[02:46] <harrison> dan9818: is gparted open?
[02:46] <dan9818> how do i use gksudo gparted?
[02:46] <harrison> type it in the terminal
[02:46] <phillw> harrison disk utilities will format / partition a drive that is not in use. If you wish to make alterations to your 'live running' Hard Dive, you need to use gparted from either a ubuntu CD or the gparted one.
[02:47] <harrison> pillw: I think dan9818 has an external hard drive not an internal one.
[02:47] <phillw> harrison for the difference between sudo and gksudo, please have a quick read of http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo getting it wrong "can" mess things up.
[02:48] <harrison> oh, I didn't know that I always thought they were the same.
[02:48] <dan9818> gparted is open
[02:49] <JoeMaverickSett> why does one 'nuke' a hard drive?how?
[02:49] <phillw> the disk utilities under administration menu, will be able to take of an external hard drive. although if you are at all unsure, I'd really suggest reading up on it. formatted hard drives are nearly impossible to recover.
[02:49] <harrison> in the uper right corner there is a dropdown list, click it and select your hard drive
[02:52] <harrison> phillw I now understand Thanks
[02:52] <phillw> JoeMaverickSett: it resets the disk, similar to "fresh out of the factory"; there are varying degrees to do that depending if you wish all data to removed and scambled, or just wish to start from scratch.
[02:52] <harrison> dan9818 did you get it?
[02:55] <JoeMaverickSett> phillw: if i wanted my disk to be "fresh out of the factory" or start from scratch, how do i do that? any wiki/guides would you recommend me to read?
[02:57] <harrison> JoeMaverickSett: sorry if you asked phillw and got me but try DBAN (I will find the link in a moment)
[02:57] <harrison> JoeMaverickSett: here it is http://www.dban.org/
[02:58] <harrison> It wippes the hard drive with the DoD algorithyms.
[02:59] <Mohan_chml> JoeMaverickSett, what I can say is, Work on it, Learn the basics and when you have doubt, ping us and when you are ready to blow, start with bash scripts if you are interested in working out with kernels. If you wanna have knowledge practically, remain here and try helping people at your best. You will get a great exposure :)
[02:59] <JoeMaverickSett> Mohan_chml: alrighty, dude. i'll surely do that. :)
[03:00] <JoeMaverickSett> harrison: thanks for the help. appreciate it. :D
[03:00] <Mohan_chml> wb paultag
[03:02] <paultag> ty, second
[03:02] <harrison> dan9818 still there?
[03:02] <dan2038> hey, this is the person who was previously dan9818, sorry, my computer froze
[03:02] <Mohan_chml> harrison, I thin you got the answer :)
[03:02] <harrison> understandable
[03:02] <Mohan_chml> think*
[03:03] <Mohan_chml> hey dan2038
[03:03] <harrison> dan2038 is gparted going?
[03:03] <dan2038> it is
[03:03] <harrison> in the uper right corner there is a dropdown list, click it and select your hard drive
[03:03] <Mohan_chml> harrison, are you working in GNOME environment?
[03:04] <harrison> yes
[03:04] <Mohan_chml> cool
[03:04] <harrison> I am actualy doing this on memory
[03:04] <dan2038> it is searching /dev/sdb partitions
[03:04] <harrison> did you say it was 2 TB?
[03:05] <dan2038> 1TB
[03:05]  * Mohan_chml scrolls up to see the issue type
[03:05] <harrison> if it is it will be a while
[03:05] <harrison> even 1 TB drives
[03:05] <dan2038> ok, and I have a fairly slow computer, or the one I have on Ubuntu is
[03:06] <dan2038> ok
[03:06] <dan2038> its is done searching
[03:06] <harrison> Mohan_chml how do you make those comments?
[03:06] <Mohan_chml> harrison, /me scrolls up to see the issue type
[03:06] <Mohan_chml> thats it :)
[03:06] <harrison> Dan2038: look in the top right corner
[03:06] <harrison> Thanks
[03:07] <dan2038> ok
[03:07] <harrison> there should be a dropdown menu
[03:07] <dan2038> yes
[03:07] <harrison> select your 1 TB drive
[03:07] <dan2038> ok
[03:07] <harrison> Most likely /dev/sdb
[03:07] <dan2038> it is, and it only shows one partition
[03:08] <harrison> what does the bar in the top look like?
[03:08] <harrison> Sorry didn't look up
[03:08] <Mohan_chml> harrison, gimme a sec
[03:08] <harrison> you doing this as well?
[03:09] <Mohan_chml> dan2038, open up terminal, type sudo fdis -l and copy paste the response to paste.ubuntu.com
[03:09] <Mohan_chml> harrison, LOL no :P
[03:09] <Mohan_chml> err sudo fdisk -l
[03:09] <Mohan_chml> hey dan2038 ^
[03:09] <Mohan_chml> I made a typo
[03:09] <dan2038> ok
[03:10] <dan2038> is that a - and the letter I?
[03:10] <Mohan_chml> harrison, that makes work simple :D
[03:10] <Mohan_chml> L
[03:10] <Mohan_chml> dan2038, "L"
[03:10] <harrison> what work?
[03:10] <harrison> this is fun not work
[03:10] <harrison> most of the time
[03:10] <Mohan_chml> harrison, :o but for him its not fun :P
[03:11] <harrison> I see now
[03:12] <dan2038> ok, just a second
[03:12] <JoeMaverickSett> i got i/o errors when i installed Ubuntu on my laptop, and one guy suggested that i might try 'nuking' my disk, should i do that or not? photo is here: http://twitpic.com/2c2rba
[03:12] <Mohan_chml> dan2038, save it in paste.ubuntu.com and give us the link here. You cant copy by pressing ctrl+c, use your mouse to select and right click
[03:13] <Mohan_chml> JoeMaverickSett, It is not booting up even you restart?
[03:14] <dan2038> Disk /dev/sda: 60.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>0 bytes255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylindersUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytesSector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytesDisk identifier: 0x2990bc44
[03:14] <dan2038>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System/dev/sda1   *           1        7109    57103011   83  Linux /dev/sda2            7110        7296     1502077+   5  Extended/dev/sda5            7110        7296     1502046   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[03:14] <dan2038> Disk /dev/sdb: 999.5 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>24 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121515 cylindersUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytesSector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytesI/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x0001c8b0
[03:14] <dan2038>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System/dev/sdb1   *           1      121515   976069206    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[03:14] <pedro3005> !paste | dan2038
[03:14] <ubot2> dan2038: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[03:14] <Mohan_chml> ty pedro3005 :)
[03:14] <Mohan_chml> dan2038, don't use the channel to paste. Use paste.ubuntu.com
[03:15] <JoeMaverickSett> after it shows the I/O erros and reboots, nothing seems to be wrong. the whole OS works....
[03:15] <dan2038> what do i put where it says poster?
[03:15] <dan2038> nevermind
[03:16] <Mohan_chml> you have to copy paste there and click save
[03:16] <Mohan_chml> dan2038, well you set it to lba??
[03:16] <Mohan_chml> FAT32 (LBA)
[03:16] <dan2038> where is save?  download as text?
[03:17] <Mohan_chml> sorry you pasted it
[03:17] <dan2038> ok
[03:17] <Mohan_chml> now copy the url and paste it here
[03:17] <Mohan_chml> thats the procedure to show to people
[03:17] <dan2038> http://paste.ubuntu.com/480729/
[03:17] <Mohan_chml> dan2038, good
[03:17] <dan2038> ok, i got it
[03:17] <Mohan_chml> and you set it as lba???
[03:18] <Jabadehut> gotta love pastebin
[03:18] <dan2038> um, not intentionally, i don't know what that means
[03:18] <Mohan_chml> harrison, you still there?
[03:19] <Mohan_chml> dan2038, just goto gparted and look at the last tab, right click on lba and deselect it
[03:19] <JoeMaverickSett> Mohan_chml: after it shows the I/O erros and reboots, nothing seems to be wrong. the whole OS works....it's weird though.
[03:20] <Mohan_chml> JoeMaverickSett, it may be soem particular process that died
[03:20] <Mohan_chml> I fourgot the command of process status
[03:20] <dan2038> ok
[03:20] <Mohan_chml> lemme look I think its "ps"
[03:21] <Mohan_chml> pedro3005, any idea of making the boot logs displayed??
[03:21]  * Mohan_chml is tired of googling
[03:22] <JoeMaverickSett> Mohan_chml: eh, nvm. that laptop is the one i'm using now! =D just wanted to know.
[03:23] <Mohan_chml> JoeMaverickSett, but its good to know why :)
[03:23] <harrison> Mohan_chml yes I am back
[03:24] <Mohan_chml> harrison, (:
[03:24] <harrison> yes.
[03:24] <Mohan_chml> JoeMaverickSett, your nick is BIG 0_0
[03:24] <Mohan_chml> dan2038, you did that?
[03:24] <JoeMaverickSett> Mohan_chml: hehe! yeah! :D
[03:24] <dan2038> i did
[03:25] <temposs> Mohan_chml: you need an app that will google for you
[03:25] <temposs> :-)
[03:25] <Mohan_chml> temposs, my bot has that. But I need pedro3005 here :D
[03:25] <pedro3005> what?
[03:25] <Mohan_chml> dan2038, now you want to format it to FAT32 right!!!
[03:26] <dan2038> yes
[03:26] <dan2038> did we take away that virtual CD thing that was on there?
[03:26] <Mohan_chml> dan2038, now, right click on /dev/sdb1 and i think there will be an option called "format to" i think
[03:27] <dan2038> ok
[03:27] <Mohan_chml> argh! virtual CD.!
[03:27] <Mohan_chml> dan2038, In that you can see FAT33 and all other formats. You can use any. Even NTFS
[03:28] <Mohan_chml> pedro3005, I told you to find a way to save and display the logs of boot process
[03:28] <dan2038> alright
[03:28] <Mohan_chml> pedro3005, JoeMaverickSett is having an Issue. Please do that =]
[03:29] <Mohan_chml> temposs, Your name is andrew!!!
[03:29] <temposs> Mohan_chml: that's true!
[03:30]  * Mohan_chml thinks about our old friend andrew46 :'( We really miss him :'(
[03:30] <temposs> :o
[03:30] <pedro3005> Mohan_chml, /var/logs ?
[03:30] <harrison> Mohan_chml DO you need my help?
[03:30] <harrison> *do
[03:30] <temposs> Mohan_chml: did he just stop coming?
[03:31] <Mohan_chml> harrison, if you can, I ll be happy. Coz you are following him from the head to tail :)
[03:31] <Mohan_chml> temposs, he got some personal issues and he left the team :(
[03:31] <harrison> dan2038 were are you?
[03:31] <dan2038> it is formatting the drive
[03:32] <harrison> what do you need help with?
[03:33] <dan2038> i don't think i need help with anything any more, i think this should work
[03:33] <dan2038> thank you guys
[03:34] <harrison> your welcome
[03:34] <harrison> Next
[03:34] <Mohan_chml> rest
[03:34] <Mohan_chml> :D
[03:34] <temposs> Mohan_chml: herbal tea helps
[03:35] <Mohan_chml> temposs, that will :)
[03:35] <harrison> yea I guess I should its 10:34 in eastren Canada, I like orange peco better.
[03:35] <Mohan_chml> its 8 AM here (:
[03:35] <harrison> Where is here?
[03:35] <Mohan_chml> harrison, India
[03:36] <harrison> I was talking to a guy from sudi arabia yesterday.
[03:36] <temposs> Mohan_chml: which province?
[03:36] <harrison> Quebec
[03:36] <temposs> >_>
[03:36] <harrison> Right on the border with the US
[03:37] <Mohan_chml> temposs, Tamil Nadu. You can see https://launchpad.net/~mohanchml
[03:37] <Mohan_chml> temposs, it has the map :)
[03:37] <Mohan_chml> harrison, nice
[03:37] <Mohan_chml> pedro3005, I need a terminal code to display the boot logs
[03:38] <harrison> Mohan_chml have you ever setup a server?
[03:38] <pedro3005> Mohan_chml, cat /var/log/boot ?
[03:38] <Mohan_chml> No. I am going to do it in about a week
[03:38] <temposs> Mohan_chml: doesn't have map :-(
[03:39] <temposs> Mohan_chml: but it's in the east, right?
[03:39] <Mohan_chml> pedro3005, we have to enable logging first. So explain me from the scratch
[03:39] <Mohan_chml> south tip
[03:39] <Mohan_chml> temposs, ^
[03:39] <pedro3005> Mohan_chml, I don't know :x
[03:39] <Mohan_chml> pedro3005, thats why I said GOOGLE
[03:39] <seidos> you don't have to enable logging
[03:39] <seidos> logging is just enabled
[03:40] <seidos> well, what kind of logging are you talking about?
[03:40] <Mohan_chml> seidos, no its not displaying for me
[03:40] <Mohan_chml> seidos, good question
[03:40] <seidos> Mohan_chml, well, I have no idea what logs you are trying to look at
[03:40] <Mohan_chml> devil@devil-laptop:~$ cat /var/log/boot
[03:40] <Mohan_chml> (Nothing has been logged yet.)
[03:40] <JoeMaverickSett> same here.
[03:40] <Mohan_chml> seidos, boot logging up all the process
[03:40] <seidos> Mohan_chml, I see your problem.  You don't need technical advice...you need an exorcism on your computer
[03:40] <seidos> har har
[03:41] <pedro3005> Mohan_chml, http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8525746&postcount=9
[03:41] <Mohan_chml> lol
[03:41] <seidos> Mohan_chml, syslog?
[03:41] <JoeMaverickSett> guess i need exorcism also. =P
[03:41] <seidos> I *think* boot events are recorded in syslog
[03:41] <Mohan_chml> seidos, :o
[03:41] <seidos> my brain and heart need an exorcism.  I'm possessed!  \o/.  I mean O_o
[03:42] <Mohan_chml> pedro3005, I know all the stuff that we have to enable and have to look. But idk where to enable and I AM TIRED OF GOOGLING:d
[03:42] <pedro3005> Mohan_chml, it's explained in there
[03:42]  * Mohan_chml smacks seidos
[03:42] <Mohan_chml> pedro3005, I saw that and thank you (:
[03:43] <Mohan_chml> JoeMaverickSett, you saw that?
[03:43] <Mohan_chml> JonathanD, hello
[03:43] <seidos> man, I'm tired of googling too.  someone google for me
[03:43] <JoeMaverickSett> Mohan_chml: yup. thanks.
[03:43]  * Mohan_chml giggles at seidos
[03:43] <seidos> boot logging isn't enabled...hmmm.  so what the heck is in syslog?
[03:44] <temposs> I think there could be some good money in auto-googling
[03:44] <Mohan_chml> seidos, its syslog
[03:44] <seidos> Mohan_chml, tautology?
[03:44] <Mohan_chml> seidos, may be 0_o
[03:44] <seidos> temposs, yeah, didn't some companies try that?
[03:44] <JoeMaverickSett> so will that show why i got I/O errors, the first time i install Ubuntu?
[03:44] <temposs> seldos, need some neural interface, though
[03:45] <seidos> Mohan_chml, semantic tautology is like when you say the same thing more than once.
[03:45] <seidos> !tab | temposs
[03:45] <ubot2> temposs: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[03:45] <Mohan_chml> seidos, x_0
[03:45] <seidos> \o/ for the bot
[03:46] <seidos> Mohan_chml, me someday -> x_x
[03:46] <Mohan_chml> lol seidos
[03:46]  * Mohan_chml stares at seidos
[03:46] <temposs> seidos, thx
[03:47] <seidos> temposs, don't thank me, thank the person who programmed ubot2
[03:47] <Mohan_chml> JoeMaverickSett, is that at the first time you logged in??
[03:47] <seidos> temposs, actually, just thank me, I have no idea who programmed ubot2
[03:48] <Mohan_chml> PabloRubianes_, you are multiplying??
[03:48] <JoeMaverickSett> Mohan_chml: nope. that happened when i install Ubuntu. but the OS came back ok after the reboot.
[03:49] <temposs> seidos, semantic tautology is when you say that one proposition is equivalent to another logically equivalent proposition
[03:49] <Mohan_chml> temposs, okay. offtopic to #ubuntu-beginners-team
[03:49] <seidos> temposs, link?
[03:50] <seidos> Mohan_chml is right.
[03:54] <dan2038> i did all that, and i reformatted it, but the virtual CD is still on the drive, is there any way to take it off?
[04:01] <jim2022> i recently bought a 1 TB external hard drive, and it has some "virtual cd" on it, with western digital software, and i can't figure out how to remove it, because it is interfering with my using it, and will only let it be set up on a mac or a pc, and not both, so I wanted to wipe the drive clean and somehow take off the virtual cd, can i do that?
[04:05] <jim2022> am i in the wrong place?
[04:07] <dan2038> i recently bought a 1 TB external hard drive, and it has some "virtual cd" on it, with western digital software, and i can't figure out how to remove it, because it is interfering with my using it, and will only let it be set up on a mac or a pc, and not both, so I wanted to wipe the drive clean and somehow take off the virtual cd, can i do that?
[04:09] <temposs> dan2038, There is often a piece of software that the maker of the device will have on their website
[04:09] <temposs> dan2038, what you should do is look for such a piece of software to remove the virtualpc
[04:09] <temposs> dan2038, "virtual cd"
[04:10] <dan2038> ok
[04:10] <temposs> dan2038, I have encountered something similar in SanDisk Cruzer Titanium flash drives
[04:10] <temposs> dan2038, whatever you try, you can't get rid of it, because it's actually buried in the firmware of the device, not the general storage
[04:11] <dan2038> ok
[04:11] <dan2038> so i'm sort of stuck with it?
[04:12] <temposs> dan2038, well, like with sandisk, they had an app that you could run to remove the firmware bit and turn it into a plain storage device
[04:12] <temposs> dan2038, so I found that on their site
[04:13] <temposs> dan2038, so, try and see if Western Digital has something like that for your device
[04:13] <dan2038> ok, they don't have anything like that on their website
[04:13] <temposs> I guess you're stuck with it
[04:13] <temposs> but, I think this is what the problem is
[04:14] <temposs> you might google around and see if anyone's hacked it or see if there's a third party app that will remove it
[04:14] <seidos> dan2038, maybe you can return it?
[04:15] <dan2038> alright, thank you very much, like a third party app from the ubuntu software place?
[04:15] <dan2038> I may try that, but i threw away the box already...
[04:15] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[04:15] <kosaidpo> i need some help on C++ anyone ?
[04:16] <temposs> kosaidpo, go ahead
[04:16] <pedro3005> kosaidpo, if it's simple, sure
[04:16] <kosaidpo> ok well i have CGG installed i have 3 files person.cpp and person.h and main.cpp
[04:17] <kosaidpo> i try to compile like this
[04:17] <kosaidpo> g++ -c person.cpp -o person but it doesnt work i get nly a file
[04:17] <kosaidpo> idk how to execute it
[04:17] <pedro3005> ./file
[04:18] <kosaidpo> yeh it says not found
[04:18] <kosaidpo> let me test it again to tel you the right output
[04:18] <temposs> kosaidpo, he means ./person
[04:19] <pedro3005> I'm not sure how you compile several files like that. So far, all my programs are one huge file :P
[04:20] <kosaidpo> yeh well i found that -c option it means combine but doesnt link i guess that the issue
[04:22] <seidos> kosaidpo, you are trying to compile multiple files?
[04:22] <kosaidpo> yehh
[04:22] <kosaidpo> well its jst one but seperated tho
[04:23] <kosaidpo> i have file.cpp and file.h and main.cpp
[04:23] <seidos> kosaidpo, I would ask in #c++
[04:23] <seidos> the only way I know how to compile multiple files is ./configure make make install
[04:23] <seidos> heh
[04:24] <kosaidpo> seidos: how im new i jst started today : )
[04:24] <kosaidpo> i barely kno few option of CGG
[04:25] <seidos> kosaidpo, well, why are you trying to compile multiple files?
[04:25] <seidos> kosaidpo, why not use one file?
[04:26] <pedro3005> seidos, well, imagine if the entire OS was one file
[04:26] <pedro3005> heh
[04:26] <pedro3005> linux.c
[04:26] <seidos> pedro3005, he said he was just starting.  Just starting and splitting up the program in multiple files?
[04:27] <pedro3005> kosaidpo, you just started C++ today?
[04:27] <seidos> pedro3005, but that is an interesting idea.  why not? we have search capabilities in text editors :P
[04:27] <kosaidpo> you kno i guess havin em seperated it help n i wont get lost easily
[04:28] <pedro3005> you should worry about that stuff later on
[04:30] <kosaidpo1> hello im bk i got disconnected
[04:30] <pedro3005> seidos, it'd take an ungodly amount of scrolling :p
[04:30] <pedro3005> Separating things makes it nice and neat
[04:31] <seidos> pedro3005, not if you used goto line commands in your editor
[04:31] <pedro3005> but then you'd need to keep track of lines and such
[04:31] <kosaidpo1> yeh but get stucked on how to cimpile its pretty funny and frustrating too
[04:33] <seidos> pedro3005, not necessarily, you could estimate, and you could put comment flags in the code
[04:34] <Mohan_chml> kosaidpo, you can ghost your older nick if you get joined with another nick like kosaidpo1 and you canchange the nick
[04:34] <kosaidpo> im using pidigin so idk how to do it on it
[04:34] <pedro3005> seidos, and sometimes you need to be able to analyze the whole code. if you constantly need to move thousands of lines, it gets annoying
[04:34] <kosaidpo> can u help me
[04:35] <seidos> pedro3005, that's a good point
[04:35] <Mohan_chml> kosaidpo, when you logged in as kosaidpo1, check whether the nick kosaidpo still remains. If so, type /msg nickserv ghost kosaidpo "your password"
[04:35] <pedro3005> Mohan_chml, or simply /ghost
[04:35] <Mohan_chml> that will disconnect your old nick and now type /nick kosaidpo
[04:36] <Mohan_chml> pedro3005, oh!!
[04:36] <kosaidpo> uhm
[04:36] <kosaidpo> who changed it for me you ?
[04:37] <kosaidpo> well tnx tho
[04:37] <Mohan_chml> no Its done automatically
[04:37] <kosaidpo> oh how so ?
[04:40] <seidos> is there a place to type irc commands in pidgin?
[04:40] <seidos> I never used pidgin for irc
[04:45] <kosaidpo> seidos: yes
[04:45] <kosaidpo> thats how i join to rooms tho
[04:46] <kosaidpo> but i kno only that cmmd  : D
[04:47] <seidos> kosaidpo, oh
[04:47] <kosaidpo> yeh well pidgin its all in one software tho
[04:48] <kosaidpo> all protocals in one small prog
[04:50] <seidos> I don't really know anybody on any other protocols
[04:50] <seidos> and pidgin felt claustrophobic for irc
[04:51] <Mohan_chml> kosaidpo, freenode always checks whether your connection is available or not by pinging you. kosaidpo1 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) means that your nick does not respond for 272 seconds and they disconnected your nick name
[04:52] <Mohan_chml> when you do /ghost, it will show as "disconnected by services"
[04:53] <kosaidpo> Mohan_chml: but me i didnt did it
[04:53] <Mohan_chml> its freenode who did disconnected your nick
[04:54] <kosaidpo> ah okies tnx
[04:54] <Mohan_chml> (:
[04:54] <kosaidpo> uhm can you help me with some C++ noobie problem ?
[04:54] <Mohan_chml> I am not that much good with C++. sorry
[04:55] <kosaidpo> uhm and do you kno how to compile a programe that has files seperated ?
[04:55] <kosaidpo> cus thats my problem
[04:56] <Mohan_chml> I will try googling it
[04:56] <kosaidpo> Mohan_chml: okiestnx cus ive googlin lbut no luck
[04:57] <pedro3005> kosaidpo, ask in #c++
[04:58] <kosaidpo> i've already tried
[04:58] <kosaidpo> it tells me i need an invite to post on the room
[04:59] <Mohan_chml> kosaidpo, http://www.haverford.edu/cmsc/course-pages/usingMake.html
[04:59] <kosaidpo> but i do see people tlk tho
[04:59] <Mohan_chml> kosaidpo, is there any sense in what I gave??
[05:00] <kosaidpo> i have to read first
[05:00] <kosaidpo> but i assume its another compiler
[05:00] <kosaidpo> i have CGG
[05:00] <kosaidpo> im not sure
[05:00] <kosaidpo> if its the same or not
[05:00] <kosaidpo> it is
[05:01] <kosaidpo> tnx : )
[12:42] <fayez> helo all
[12:43] <fayez> I am a linux newbe with a laptop problem
[12:43] <fayez> any one available to help me
[12:43] <paultag> fayez: at work :( -- hang around
[12:44] <paultag> fayez: someone'll be here
[12:44] <Mohan_chml> fayez, yes c'mon
[12:44] <fayez> helo there mohan
[12:44] <fayez> here goes my problem
[12:44] <Mohan_chml> hey fayez, what is the issue?
[12:45] <fayez> I have a hp laptop elitebook 2530 running ubuntu 10.4 LTS\
[12:45] <Mohan_chml> okay
[12:45] <fayez> after the last update
[12:45] <fayez> wireless is not working
[12:46] <Mohan_chml> ahha!!
[12:46] <fayez> also the whole hardware controll pannel on the laptop is not working
[12:46] <Mohan_chml> hardware control panel?
[12:46] <fayez> ya
[12:46] <fayez> its like the function keys, volume keys
[12:47] <fayez> you know hardware buttons to control wireless enable/disable
[12:47] <Mohan_chml> is yes
[12:47] <fayez> volume enable/disable
[12:47] <fayez> it is just dead
[12:47] <fayez> it used to work before
[12:48] <Mohan_chml> okay goto system-> administration-> hardware drivers
[12:48] <Mohan_chml> check whether its working!!
[12:48] <fayez> ya I went there and there is no proprietory driver
[12:48] <Mohan_chml> I ll search some more information
[12:48] <fayez> not just now
[12:48] <fayez> but from the clean installation
[12:48] <Mohan_chml> fayez, can you do one thing??
[12:48] <fayez> sue
[12:48] <fayez> sure
[12:49] <Mohan_chml> get back to the previous version while logging in. you understand what I mean?
[12:49] <fayez> pls explain
[12:49] <philinux> fayez: At the grub prompt try the previous kernel
[12:49] <fayez> cool
[12:49] <fayez> how do I do that
[12:50] <Mohan_chml> fayez, you understand?? the boot screen will have "ubuntu generic *.21" and  and others
[12:50] <fayez> where do I change that
[12:50] <fayez> is it at the log in screen
[12:51] <fayez> or I interrupt the boot process with some function key
[12:51] <Mohan_chml> when you start your machine, you will have some options displayed right!
[12:51] <fayez> and choose a different kernal
[12:51] <fayez> right
[12:51] <Mohan_chml> in that you will see some ubuntu and memtest and other text before getting into ubuntu right!!
[12:51] <fayez> right
[12:52] <Mohan_chml> this is the first time you updated??
[12:52] <fayez> no
[12:52] <Mohan_chml> okay
[12:52] <fayez> lots of updates every 2 to 3 days
[12:52] <fayez> some times a week
[12:53] <Mohan_chml> hmm you will see a line at the first as "ubuntu generic <IP_ADDRESS>" or some similar numbers right!
[12:53] <fayez> right
[12:53] <fayez> aha
[12:53] <fayez> okay
[12:53] <fayez> I remember that
[12:53] <fayez> I selected a previous version of the kernal
[12:54] <Mohan_chml> hmmm thats cool
[12:54] <Mohan_chml> you understood right!
[12:54] <fayez> right
[12:54] <fayez> :)
[12:54] <fayez> okay so if every thing works right
[12:55] <fayez> let me try that
[12:55] <Mohan_chml> then you have to report a bug. If the hardware is still not working, Then report back here
[12:55] <fayez> I will log in from a different machine
[12:55] <fayez> I can do that
[12:55] <Mohan_chml> okay
[12:55] <fayez> thanks for your help,
[12:55] <Mohan_chml> heya philinux :)
[12:55] <fayez> really appreciate it
[12:56] <philinux> o/
[12:56] <Mohan_chml> sup philinux ?
[12:56] <philinux> Sound is bugging me. I can get mic to record using sound recorder but not otherwise
[12:57] <philinux> ubuntustudio channle got no response all mia
[12:57] <Mohan_chml> aww. Thats evil!
[12:57] <philinux> Ah someone got me brb
[12:58] <Mohan_chml> okies
[13:07] <fayez_> mohan
[13:07] <Mohan_chml> hey fayez_
[13:07] <fayez_> I didn't see the page you were talking about
[13:08] <fayez_> I saw it before on different versions
[13:08] <Mohan_chml> no boot screen?
[13:08] <fayez_> but now I don't
[13:08] <Mohan_chml> argh!
[13:08] <fayez_> strange ha
[13:09] <Mohan_chml> yeah!
[13:09] <Mohan_chml> okay do one thing. goto terminal and type sudo update-grub
[13:09] <fayez_> I dont see any grub messages
[13:09] <Mohan_chml> !grub2 | fayez_
[13:09] <ubot2> fayez_: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10.  For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[13:10] <Mohan_chml> fayez_, open up terminal now
[13:10] <Mohan_chml> and you did sudo update-grub?
[13:10] <fayez_> yes
[13:10] <fayez_> it is updating
[13:11] <Mohan_chml> okay
[13:11] <Mohan_chml> now try restarting
[13:11] <fayez_> okay
[13:11] <fayez_> first let me join in from a different machine.
[13:11] <Mohan_chml> okay
[13:11] <harrison> Mohan_chml still there?
[13:12] <Mohan_chml> harrison, no :P
[13:12] <harrison> what time it it in india?
[13:12] <Mohan_chml> 17:45
[13:13] <harrison> Whats up for discution?
[13:13] <fayez> iam restarting
[13:14] <fayez> no I don't see that page
[13:14] <fayez> again
[13:14] <Mohan_chml> awww
[13:14] <harrison> Grub2?
[13:14] <Mohan_chml> harrison, yep
[13:15] <fayez> it boot into "press esc of a list of menu"
[13:15] <fayez> and then to ubuntu
[13:15] <Mohan_chml> before getting into first ubuntu, get to the third one
[13:16] <fayez> helo
[13:16] <philinux> With grub2 you need to press shift qickly after post to get the menu
[13:17] <fayez> okay
[13:17] <philinux> Then down arrow key to get to previous kernel
[13:17] <fayez> its is working
[13:18] <fayez> but the problem presists
[13:19] <Mohan_chml> in the older version too?
[13:19] <fayez> yes with the previous release too
[13:19] <fayez> while booting a screen comes for 2 sec
[13:20] <fayez> the says fsck linux .......
[13:21] <Mohan_chml> then I dont its linuxs' issue
[13:22] <fayez> some thing like file check or something
[13:23] <fayez> any ideas
[13:24] <Mohan_chml> fayez, last try. you have a Lice CD or USB?
[13:24] <Mohan_chml> live*
[13:24] <fayez> i ilive
[13:24] <fayez> live
[13:24] <Mohan_chml> okay boot from that and check whether the hardware is working
[13:25] <fayez> okay
[13:33] <fayez> helo
[13:33] <fayez> not working too
[13:34] <Mohan_chml> hmmm then I am sure its not the Operating system Issue
[13:34] <fayez> you're right
[13:34] <fayez> but volume works fine
[13:34] <Mohan_chml> hmmm...!
[13:35] <fayez> although the hardware control buttons are not functional
[13:35] <fayez> lan works too
[13:35] <fayez> on both os
[13:35] <fayez> the live cd and the normal os
[13:35] <Mohan_chml> check your laptop then
[13:35] <fayez> it is just wireless
[13:36] <fayez> when I do ifconfig wlan0 up
[13:36] <fayez> it gives this error
[13:36] <fayez> unkown error 132
[13:37] <Mohan_chml> idk abou that error
[13:38] <fayez> idk?
[13:38] <zeroseven0183> Hi fayez, is the wireless of your machine not working?
[13:38] <fayez> yes
[13:38] <zeroseven0183> Have you tried checking if there is any drivers needed to download in System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[13:39] <Mohan_chml> hey zeroseven0183 (:
[13:39] <zeroseven0183> Sorry, I wasn't able to get the previous messages since I just logged in
[13:39] <zeroseven0183> What's up @Mohan_chml
[13:39] <fayez> there is no propreitory drivers
[13:39] <fayez> not now and not before. any ideas :(
[13:40] <zeroseven0183> What is your laptop's brand?
[13:40] <Mohan_chml> zeroseven0183, nothing much!! you?
[13:40] <fayez> hp elitebook 2530p
[13:41] <fayez> the main problem in my openion is :
[13:41] <zeroseven0183> So I'm guessing, you're dual booting? Right? Two operating systems?
[13:41] <fayez> no only ubuntu
[13:41] <zeroseven0183> I see
[13:42] <zeroseven0183> So while testing the LiveCD, did you encounter the same I error?
[13:42] <fayez> I cannot enable wireless because the wireless hardware control button is not working and it is disabled
[13:42] <fayez> it is over ridding the software command to enable wireless
[13:43] <fayez> hence LAN works and wireless not
[13:43] <zeroseven0183> Does it have any settings in the BIOS?
[13:43] <fayez> and voice works but i cant control it
[13:43] <zeroseven0183> Hmmmm... I do had some problems too with the controls on my HP Pavilion dv3 laptop
[13:43] <fayez> zero what do you think of what i said could that be the problem
[13:45] <zeroseven0183> Did you do an upgrade?
[13:45] <fayez> upgrade of?
[13:45] <zeroseven0183> Or was it a fresh install?
[13:45] <fayez> aha
[13:45] <zeroseven0183> Upgrade from old version to 10.04?
[13:45] <fayez> fresh install
[13:45] <zeroseven0183> I see. So it does not have an OS when you bought it?
[13:45] <zeroseven0183> I wonder
[13:45] <fayez> no it had xp
[13:46] <fayez> or vista
[13:46] <fayez> i don't know
[13:46] <fayez> but windows for sure
[13:46] <fayez> every thign used to work fine until recently
[13:47] <zeroseven0183> I see. So it used to work when it had XP
[13:47] <zeroseven0183> ?
[13:47] <fayez> no it used to work when i installed 10.4 LTS
[13:48] <fayez> i didn't use the windows
[13:48] <fayez> i directly installed linuc
[13:48] <zeroseven0183> Ahhh
[13:48] <fayez> check this out
[13:48] <fayez> when i do ifconfig wlan0 up
[13:49] <fayez> result is: SIOCSIFFLAGS: unkown error 132
[13:50] <fayez> i am guessing SIOCSIF - FLAG is the wireless hardware flag that is overridding the command to bring up the wireless
[13:51] <zeroseven0183> I see. Have you tried resetting to default your BIOS
[13:51] <zeroseven0183> ?
[13:52] <fayez> do you know how to do it
[13:52] <zeroseven0183> I'm looking at a similar problem in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1011790. Although, the poster has a different model, resetting the BIOs to its default worked for him.. and another user
[13:52] <fayez> okay let me try
[13:52] <zeroseven0183> When you start your laptop, press F10
[13:52] <zeroseven0183> Then you should see at least a screen (blue in color)
[13:53] <zeroseven0183> with white bar on the top menu
[13:53] <fayez> okay done
[13:53] <zeroseven0183> the option to reset to default is usually on the first menu
[13:53] <fayez> i think it works
[13:54] <philinux> Mohan_chml: got my mic and guitar playing now
[13:54] <zeroseven0183> Alright, let's see once your Ubuntu boots
[13:54] <fayez> the wireless hardware button is blue "functional "
[13:54] <zeroseven0183> good
[13:54] <fayez> yes
[13:54] <Mohan_chml> Wow philinux. Awesome
[13:54] <fayez> i can scan for wireless
[13:54] <philinux> Mohan_chml: Jack sound server
[13:54] <fayez> :)
[13:55] <zeroseven0183> I see
[13:55] <fayez> thx guys,
[13:55] <zeroseven0183> So that made it work?
[13:55] <fayez> yes
[13:55] <zeroseven0183> Alright. Good to know
[13:55] <zeroseven0183> Now, it's time for you to enjoy your laptop :-)
[13:55] <fayez> wireless button are working along with wireless connection
[13:56] <Mohan_chml> zeroseven0183, I was not thinking about that O_O
[13:56] <Mohan_chml> philinux, oh thats the problem?
[13:56] <fayez> but the volume control buttons are still dimmed
[13:56] <Mohan_chml> :(
[13:56] <zeroseven0183> @Mohan_chml I used to work as HP tech support
[13:57] <fayez> good news
[13:57] <zeroseven0183> That was the first thing I thought when fayez told about the controls
[13:57] <Mohan_chml> zeroseven0183, that cool
[13:57] <philinux> Mohan_chml: on a default install mic and linein inputs are not connected to any outputs. You can record albeit silently and playback. Jack is needed to connect the input to output.
[13:58] <zeroseven0183> Good to know I was able to help :-)
[13:58] <zeroseven0183> Makes me happy :-)
[13:58] <Mohan_chml> philinux, okay tell me how to enable it
[13:58] <Mohan_chml> zeroseven0183, :)
[13:59] <fayez> thanks alot
[13:59] <philinux> Mohan_chml: install jack, also get qjackctl and optional patchage
[13:59] <Mohan_chml> philinux, apt-get -I jack?
[14:00] <philinux> Mohan_chml: I used synaptic, but I cant run jack unless I use gksu so I need to sort permissions. I've added an audio group but it still fials
[14:00] <Mohan_chml> hmmm k
[14:01] <serfus> hey mt-lith , do you need some help?
[14:02] <mt-lith> serfus: no, but thanks
[14:03] <serfus> okay :)
[14:09] <philinux> Mohan_chml: sorted now. Sys>Admin >users and groups added myself to audio now works fine
[14:12] <Mohan_chml> philinux, good to hear :)
[14:12] <philinux> Mohan_chml: this jack server settings are manic. Wow what a learning curve here.
[14:37] <Mohan_chml> abhi, abhinav right!
[14:38] <abhi> i have installed ubuntu 10.04 on my acer 5740 laptop but it is not showing the drivers list of the hardware
[14:38] <abhi> please give answer
[14:39] <Mohan_chml> abhi, you updated it/
[14:39] <Mohan_chml> ?
[14:40] <Mohan_chml> abhi, please you are still hanging out there?
[14:40] <abhi> yes i have updated it on 17/08/2010
[14:41] <Mohan_chml> then it will automatically detect your hardware. If you want to list your hardware, goto terminal and type lspci
[14:41] <Mohan_chml> thet will show the drivers installed for the software. If you have a particular issue, please point that abhi
[14:42] <abhi> thank u for the help i
[14:42] <Mohan_chml> have a nice day abhi (:
[14:47] <abhi> i want to ask some more question tomorrow , will u be online tomorrow? if yes  then at what time  you will enter the chat
[14:48] <Mohan_chml> abhi, tomorrow means?
[14:48] <Mohan_chml> abhi, where are you from??
[14:48] <abhi> plese reply mohan!!!!!!!!
[14:48] <abhi> im from mumbai
[14:48] <Mohan_chml> abhi, I asked you some question and our team will always help you whenever you come, even in my absence
[14:48] <Mohan_chml> abhi, tell you are from India (:
[14:49] <Mohan_chml> I will be here till by tomorrow morning 10 AM IST
[14:49] <Mohan_chml> abhi, got the answer?
[14:49] <abhi> sorry !!!!!!!!  are u in india or abroad ?
[14:49] <Mohan_chml> I am from India. No worries and why dont you ask the question by today??
[14:50] <Mohan_chml> lukjad, poke
[14:52]  * Mohan_chml needs some cookies. Starving
[15:26] <Mohan_chml> starcraft, how is ya?
[15:28] <starcraft> hi Mohan_chml, goes well, playing sc2. Man this game rocks :)
[15:28] <Mohan_chml> sc?
[15:29] <malev> hi guys! how is everything?
[15:29] <Mohan_chml> starcraft, sc?
[15:29] <Mohan_chml> soccer?
[15:29] <Mohan_chml> heya malev. It goes fine :)
[15:29] <starcraft> Mohan_chml: starcraft 2 of course :)
[15:29] <Mohan_chml> :o lol forgot that
[15:29] <Puck`> hey guys
[15:30] <Mohan_chml> OMG Puck`
[15:30] <starcraft> lo puck and malev
[15:30]  * Mohan_chml runs and hides
[15:30] <Puck`> how do i know from an Ubuntu CD which version it is?
[15:30] <Puck`> without booting it of course
[15:30] <Mohan_chml> Puck`, without even inserting it?
[15:30] <Puck`> Mohan_chml: it is inserted
[15:31] <Puck`> vbox doesn't boot it because it's an AMD64 version
[15:31] <Mohan_chml> okay it will show try or instal ubuntu 10.04 or something right!
[15:31] <Mohan_chml> oh you are asking in that way..!
[15:31] <Puck`> okay, i got it
[15:31] <Mohan_chml> okies
[15:31] <Puck`> thx (:
[15:31] <Mohan_chml> (:
[15:43] <Mordred> Hello. Looking for help.
[15:43] <Mohan_chml> heya Mordred
[15:45] <Mordred> Hello. Thanks. I am currently doing an install on an MSI CR700 notebook using Ubuntu 10.04 32bit. On install, I selected "nomodeset" so that it could be installed. Otherwise, installation would hang. The laptop has an nVidia chipset and video card (8200m G)
[15:45] <Mordred> The installation went OK. But, it won't boot. It will stay in the purple screen.
[15:46] <Mohan_chml> when the installation hanged, what error it showed up?
[15:47] <Mordred> There's a recovery Win7 partition (1), a WIn7 main partition (2), anoter partition for data in Win (3) and this partitions (4 and 5)
[15:47] <Mordred> None. No errors.
[15:47] <Mordred> it would not even install. It would load the purple screen and then hang with a white square.
[15:48] <Mohan_chml> Mordred, do one thing, get into live CD and look at the contents of grub.cfg file located in the partition where ubuntu is installed
[15:48] <Mordred> ok, trying to go into live CD now.
[15:49] <Mohan_chml> okay
[15:50] <Mordred> Thanks for the help. Nowadays, IRC is full of trolls and it's really hard to get help.
[15:50] <Mordred> still loading liveCD
[15:51] <Mohan_chml> Mordred, all has their personal works and when we are free, we always help :)
[15:53] <Mordred> OK, Checking now
[15:54] <Mordred> sorry, a bit of a newbie... where do I find the cfg file?
[15:54] <Mohan_chml> find the partition you install ubuntu. do not look inside the file system
[15:54] <Mohan_chml> installed*
[15:55] <Mordred> I am looking at the 4 partitions now. says (60gb filesystem)
[15:56] <Mohan_chml> okay which partition has linux files like boot, opt, etc and other folders?
[15:56] <Mordred> that one
[15:57] <Mohan_chml> okay, get into boot->grub
[15:57] <Mordred> done
[15:57] <Mohan_chml> and inside that you can find grub.cfg
[15:57] <Mohan_chml> open it
[15:57] <Mordred> DOne
[15:58] <Mordred> DOne, looking at it now.
[15:59] <Mohan_chml> in that, is there and module that begins with menuentry "Ubuntu....." near to theend of that file?
[16:01] <Mordred> looking. just a sec...
[16:01] <Mohan_chml> okies
[16:01] <Mordred> found them - normal and generic.
[16:01] <Mohan_chml> hmmm
[16:02] <Mordred> first one and then "Recovery Mode"
[16:02] <Mohan_chml> just copy the content inside that first module and copy paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[16:03] <Mordred> A sec
[16:04] <Mohan_chml> okay
[16:04] <Mordred> hmm does not recognize my wireless. only my wired, and I have no access to that...
[16:04] <Mordred> give me a sec.
[16:05] <Mohan_chml> okay Mordred take you time :)
[16:07] <Mordred> ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
[16:07] <Mordred> menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-21-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
[16:07] <Mordred> 	recordfail
[16:07] <Mordred> 	insmod ext2
[16:07] <Mordred> 	set root='(hd0,5)'
[16:07] <Mordred> 	search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 69d9a34f-9961-4e6a-8505-b08bcc2c264a
[16:07] <Mordred> 	linux	/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-21-generic root=UUID=69d9a34f-9961-4e6a-8505-b08bcc2c264a ro   quiet splash
[16:07] <Mordred> 	initrd	/boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-21-generic
[16:07] <Mordred> }
[16:07] <Mohan_chml> aww Mordred not here
[16:07] <Mohan_chml> !pastebin | Mordred
[16:07] <ubot2> Mordred: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[16:07] <Mordred> Sorry
[16:08] <Mordred> Done.
[16:08] <Mordred> http://paste.ubuntu.com/480995/
[16:10] <Mohan_chml> Mordred, http://paste.ubuntu.com/480997/
[16:10] <Mohan_chml> compare insmod options of your file and the link I gave
[16:11] <Mohan_chml> do not change any others
[16:12] <Mohan_chml> Mordred, waIT
[16:12] <Mordred> ok
[16:12] <Mordred> no changes yet
[16:12] <Mohan_chml> i found a solution that you need i think
[16:12] <Mordred> ok
[16:12] <Mohan_chml> Mordred, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[16:12] <Mohan_chml> look that
[16:12] <Mordred> going
[16:13] <Mohan_chml> okay
[16:14] <Mordred> ok, i am leaving the LiveCD and restarting. no changes to the grub cfg
[16:15] <Mohan_chml> Mordred, okay
[16:15] <Mohan_chml> I totally forgot about the link between xorg and blank screen :/
[16:19] <Mordred> I am in, able to login. Will activate the nvidia drivers now. After that, I should be done, right? According to the page im reading.
[16:20] <Mordred> RG
[16:20] <Mordred> sorry wroing window. Working on this, Ubuntu and at work at the same time.
[16:24] <theXpert> hello
[16:24] <theXpert> i just had a call on my ubuntu system, i was unable to track in which application it was ringing, i currently hv firefox, pidgin n skype running, i chked all applications, but it didnt appear anywhr, how shud i track it
[16:25] <Mohan_chml> hey hobgoblin ty for coming my saviour
[16:25] <Mohan_chml> I ll PM you an issue
[16:25]  * hobgoblin doubts that
[16:26] <Mohan_chml> I ll brb
[16:27] <Mordred> thanks. Trying to connect now.
[16:27] <Mordred> Mohan_chml, YOU HAVE BEEN MOST HELPFUL. tHANKS.
[16:28] <theXpert> ya Mordred, i agree
[16:30] <Mohan_chml> back
[16:31] <Mohan_chml> theXpert, I am not sure about the sounds of pingin. But it might be skype. It will list the calls you missed at the middle. I am sure its not firefox!
[16:32] <Mohan_chml> hobgoblin, whats up my friend?
[16:32] <hobgoblin> ?
[16:32] <Mohan_chml> hobgoblin, sup?
[16:32] <Mohan_chml> 0_0 Wrong question??
[16:33] <hobgoblin> not mucj - just came here to idle as though I was still a member ;)
[16:33] <Mohan_chml> ;)
[16:33] <hobgoblin> so what issue?
[16:34] <Mohan_chml> hobgoblin, Its not an issue at all :P. I just hurried up w/o reading what he typed :D
[16:34] <hobgoblin> oh - k
[16:34] <Mohan_chml> its about a voice call missed in his machine
[16:34] <Mohan_chml> Mom Shouts. Brb dinner
[16:35] <hobgoblin> probably skype then
[16:50] <Mohan_chml> ohai shredder12
[17:10] <Mohan_chml> ill brb after an hour
[18:53] <Fayr> I'm having trouble setting up my VirtualHosts with apache2 and ubuntu8.04 lts server.  In /etc/apache2/sites-available I have files with the name of my domains and the contents are like this: http://pastie.org/private/dmdadjnk9ylr9xuafzqw
[18:57] <abhijeet> how to install drivers
[18:58] <aveilleux> A little more detail is needed, abhijeet. What drivers are you trying to install>
[18:58] <aveilleux> ?*
[18:59] <abhijeet> my laptop is acer 5740
[18:59] <aveilleux> That's not helpful, abhijeet. What hardware is not working?
[19:00] <abhijeet> synaptics touchapad  acer web cam
[19:01] <aveilleux> Well, for the webcam, I would suggest
[19:01] <aveilleux> !webcam |abhijeet
[19:01] <ubot2> abhijeet: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[19:02] <abhijeet> my laptop has intel hd graphics how can i install drivers for the chipset
[19:03] <aveilleux> Also, it would appear that your touchpad is not supported by xserver-xorg-input-synaptics https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/549727
[19:03] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 549727 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Invisible item at beginning of software item screen's tab order (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[19:03] <aveilleux> Silly ubot, that's not the right LP bug
[19:04] <aveilleux> !intelgraphics
[19:04] <ubot2> Factoid 'intelgraphics' not found
[19:05] <aveilleux> abhijeet: Intel HD graphics should be supported out of the box in Lucid. What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[19:06] <abhijeet> ubuntu 10.0
[19:06] <abhijeet> ubuntu 10.04 lts
[19:06] <aveilleux> Yeah, Intel HD graphics should work out of the box
[19:06] <abhijeet> what about the wifi , realtech hd audio graphics
[19:07] <aveilleux> Should work without a hitch, I've installed Ubuntu on a simlar system without problems
[19:07] <aveilleux> Have you tried the install yet, or are you still looking into Ubuntu>
[19:07] <aveilleux> ?*
[19:08] <abhijeet> i have istalled ubuntu fro the live cd and recently ordered the ubuntu dvd and repositaries what is the difference in the ubuntu cd and ubuntu dvd
[19:11] <aveilleux> abhijeet: You don't need the DVD unless you use a language that doesn't come with the typical Ubuntu CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#dvd
[19:11] <aveilleux> abhijeet: Most people *do not* need the DVD
[19:12] <abhijeet> are the dvd's only for language support i thought that it may have additional applications and plugins
[19:14] <aveilleux> abhijeet: No. Read the description here: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#dvd
[19:15] <aveilleux> abhijeet: Any applications you could want are probably on the repository. There's no need to order anything for "additional software", since it's all free anyway and available online
[19:18] <abhijeet> sir can i use each and every applicaTION MADE FOR WINDOWS IN UBUNTU
[19:19] <aveilleux> No. You can't use any applications made for Windows natively in Ubuntu. There is a compatibility layer called WINE that can help, but it doesn't work for each and every piece of software written for Windows.
[19:23] <abhijeet> i have innstalled windwos xp windows 7 and ubuntu on my laptop both winows 7 is pirated i want to reinstall windows xp and ubuntu on my laptop and format the windows 7 can windows xp and ubuntu dual boot without any proble
[19:25] <aveilleux> Can you rephrase that, abhijeet? Preferably using punctuation marks?
[19:30] <abhijeet> sorry sir. I have installed windows 7, windows xp and ubuntu on my acer 5740 .The windows 7 copy is pirated and i dont want to use it. Can i reinstall windows xp and ubuntu with dual boot without any problem ? and what sequence to be followed for the installation
[19:31] <aveilleux> abhijeet: Install Windows XP first, taking up half the drive with the NTFS partition. Then install Ubuntu, taking the other half for ext4 and swap. Ubuntu will pick up the Windows installation and add it to GRUB (the bootloader) automatically
[19:34] <abhijeet> thanks for the help i will ask u some more questions after the installation has done . good night !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:35] <aveilleux> Good night, you're welcome
[19:36] <mistrynitesh> abhijeet: hope you have already referred to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot - if not, you would want to before actually doing anything. It also has links to other useful resources


[00:04] <epimeth> LjL: lol...  Im using java.freenode.net
[00:05] <nikolavp> can someone please
[00:05] <epimeth> Ill try it
[00:05] <nikolavp> tell me why there isn't any way to install
[00:05] <LjL> epimeth: that won't work, because you have "java user" in your name.
[00:05] <nikolavp> the debug symbols of a linux kernel
[00:05] <nikolavp> at the moment
[00:05] <LjL> !enter
[00:06] <nikolavp> i am using jaunty
[00:06] <ev0sx1> hello people
[00:06] <ev0sx1> anybody using the latest alpha 6?
[00:06] <LjL> !karmic
[00:07] <ev0sx1> sorry, and thanks
[00:09] <epimeth> that was redic...
[00:10] <epimeth> :-)
[00:16] <DWonderly> have a question about Konqueror. Can you add security devices in Konqueror? I have not been able to find anything re this online
[00:17] <abdelrhman> hey all
[00:18] <DWonderly> hiya
[00:18] <abdelrhman> how u doin'
[00:18] <DWonderly> eh...
[00:18] <abdelrhman> what?
[00:19] <DWonderly> problems with konqueror
[00:19] <abdelrhman> that's ok
[00:19] <DWonderly> trying to add security devices
[00:20] <abdelrhman> aha
[00:20] <DWonderly> cant find anything on it
[00:25] <justin_6666> hey all
[00:26] <justin_6666> i have a quick question
[00:26] <DWonderly> ??
[00:26] <justin_6666> kubuntu 8.04 hardy heron, kde 3.5.10
[00:26] <justin_6666> i just installed it from a live cd. however, i dont want all these packages, just the basic kdecore
[00:27] <justin_6666> and x-window-system-core of course
[00:27] <Spaceman> justin_6666: this is taking a long time :P
[00:27] <justin_6666> sorry lol there are a lot of packages i dont need here
[00:28] <justin_6666> i cant make a minimal cd cause i have no blanks.... shall i uninstall everything--or is there a way to make my live cd do a minimal??
[00:28] <Ev0luti0n_> folks
[00:28] <Ev0luti0n_> i am having an error on my kubuntu distro
[00:28] <Ev0luti0n_> i can't mount internal partitions
[00:28] <Ev0luti0n_> gives me this error
[00:28] <Ev0luti0n_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/433714
[00:28] <Ev0luti0n_> sorry
[00:28] <Ev0luti0n_> not that link, this one
[00:28] <Ev0luti0n_> http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1146/snapshot1ue.png
[00:29] <justin_6666> i'm stumped
[00:29] <Ev0luti0n_> :o
[00:30] <justin_6666> no one knows? damn...
[00:30] <justin_6666> me neither
[00:39] <epimeth> aloha! does anyone know how to connect to a WPA2-PSK network using the command line? google has been a dead end
[00:39] <James147> justin_6666: If you have a usb flash drive you could try to create a live usb of the minimal cd
[00:40] <James147> Ev0luti0n_: Are the drives listed in /etc/fstab ?
[00:40] <Ev0luti0n_> don't know
[00:40] <Ev0luti0n_> how can i check that?
[00:40] <Ev0luti0n_> guess i know
[00:41] <Ev0luti0n_> lemme try
[00:41] <James147> Ev0luti0n_: Open /etc/fstab  :)  "cat /etc/fatab" to print the contents to screen
[00:41] <Ev0luti0n_> no they aren't
[00:42] <Ev0luti0n_> i reached the file thru dolphin
[00:42] <Ev0luti0n_> heheh
[00:42] <Ev0luti0n_> newbie way :)
[00:42] <Ev0luti0n_> the drives are not listed
[00:42] <James147> Ev0luti0n_: Adding them there will help and will auto mount them on boot
[00:42] <Ev0luti0n_> :oooooo
[00:42] <Ev0luti0n_> what i allways wanted to do!
[00:42] <Ev0luti0n_> :D
[00:43] <James147> Ev0luti0n_: you need help to add them?
[02:04] <solifugus> What's the focus on kubuntu now?  A thousand paper cuts for the KDE interface, as it pertains to kubuntu?
[02:14] <James147> solifugus: #ubuntu+1 for information on teh current development release (karmic)
[02:18] <BenPA> hi all ... was using my Dell laptop and the keyboard seems to be disabled ... I cannot sign in ... the touchpad works but nothing else ... I was using it earlier and then it just stopped ... any ideas?
[02:22] <BenPA> hi all ... was using my Dell laptop and the keyboard seems to be disabled ... I cannot sign in ... the touchpad works but nothing else ... I was using it earlier and then it just stopped ... any ideas?
[02:27] <BenPA> anyone around?
[02:28] <James147> BenPA: There are, but noone that is paying attention knows the answer to your problem... try asking every 5 to 10 mins as more ppl will join that might know how to fix it
[02:29] <BenPA> ok thanks
[02:29] <BenPA> it is a strange one ...
[02:30] <BenPA> I've read some things about windoze users but few on Linux
[02:32] <James147> BenPA: dose the capslock button work at all? (do the lights changes when you press it?)
[02:34] <ev0sx1> BenPA: i am
[02:52] <vujayjay> hey dumb and easy q
[02:53] <vujayjay> currently kubuntu 8.04, kde 3.5.10--wanting 9.04, 4.3.1
[02:53] <vujayjay> not 4.3.0, i want 4.3.1 for the bugfixes
[02:54] <jshultz> anyone know if there's a version of launchy compiled for amd64?
[02:55] <robin0800_> vujayjay: look on kubuntu web site for update details
[02:56] <vujayjay> i did i cant find it lol
[02:57] <James147> vujayjay: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.1
[02:57] <genii-around> vujayjay: Get a standard 9.04 install, then add the ppa repository as described at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.1
[02:57]  * genii-around hands James147 a coffee
[02:57]  * James147 sips
[02:58] <vujayjay> ahhh thanks ;)
[02:58] <jshultz> if i upgrade to 4.3.1 and it doesn't work, is there a way to roll back to 4.2?
[02:59] <genii-around> jshultz: Nope
[03:00] <jshultz> bummer. :(
[03:00] <James147> jshultz: at least not easily
[03:00] <jshultz> i tried earlier to go to 4.3.1 and plasma was crashing on startup. i ended up reinstalling the whole os.
[03:00] <jshultz> kind of paranoid about trying it again.
[03:00] <robin0800_> vujayjay:http://www.kubuntu.org/news/9.04-release
[03:01] <genii-around> jshultz: If you have enough room on some other storage, you could use something like clonezilla to make an image of your 4.2 beforehand, to go back to
[03:02] <BenPA> I've read some things about windoze users but few on Linux
[03:02] <BenPA> hi all ... was using my Dell laptop and the keyboard seems to be disabled ... I cannot sign in ... the touchpad works but nothing else ... I was using it earlier and then it just stopped ... any ideas?
[03:02] <jshultz> i was getting a sigserv 11 error
[03:04] <jshultz> sigsegv 11 i mean
[03:04] <jshultz> i had used it before though when i switched from gnome to kde
[03:05] <jshultz> i think it might have been tied to not having the nvidia drivers installed
[03:09] <jshultz> if i have 4.2 is there any real reason to go to 4.3.1?
[03:11] <BenPA> anyone ever loose keyboard on laptop
[03:12] <James147> jshultz: Not if you dont care about any of the new features/bugfixes  -  http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.3/
[03:13] <nic_seltzer> I have reached wit's end and I desperately need some help. I am trying to connect to WPA-TKIP from Kubuntu via the NM Applet. The AP is hidden. When attempting to connect to the AP, I am prompted for the password then immediately told that the connection failed.
[03:29] <BenPA> can anyone out there help me?
[03:29] <BenPA> hi all ... was using my Dell laptop and the keyboard seems to be disabled ... I cannot sign in ... the touchpad works but nothing else ... I was using it earlier and then it just stopped ... any ideas?
[03:34] <BenPA> never mind ... I took the battery out of my laptop and put it back in ... it now works ... what a mystery
[04:17] <R118317v> my sound doesnt work after updating
[04:23] <R118317v> I have a fresh install of kubuntu 8.04, after doing a system upgrade it asks me to reboot.   After the reboot my sound stops working
[06:39] <kxbogus> sup
[07:18] <rejohn> How do I use a package tool (KPackageKit, Adept) to install one application from Karmic on my 9.04 KUbuntu system? Is there an easy way? Thx. :)
[08:35] <aftertaf> plop :)
[08:35] <aftertaf> anyone having fun on kde karmic and sound ?
[08:36] <aftertaf> i really dont grasp pulseaudio . . . .
[08:48] <Mamarok> aftertaf: fro Karmic, please ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:48] <aftertaf> i did...
[08:49] <aftertaf> wasnt asking for help as such, just if anyone else has had fun fixing . . .
[08:50] <Mamarok> still, it doesn't belong here, all things Karmic go to #ubuntu+1 or, if you want to discuss, it's #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:58] <tasslehoff> I have mounted a share using smbfs. Windows users mounting the same share can see the folders I create, but not the files. Que???
[09:05] <suresh> hi all
[09:15] <Kvasir> hello
[09:16] <Kvasir> why in the tray there is an icon that says that there are 8 software updates available and when I click on it there are only 4 blocked updates? and why are they blocked?
[09:27] <dwidmann_> Kvasir: conflicts ... certain packages may require specific versions of other packages that either require your manual consent to install or aren't available
[09:28] <MarcoPau> hello, I can't activate composite in my kubuntu since last upgrade. getting (EE) AIGLX error: Calling driver entry point failed(EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering in Xorg.0.log... any hint?
[09:29] <dwidmann_> MarcoPau: video card/driver?
[09:29] <MarcoPau> Radeon HD 3450
[09:29] <MarcoPau> with radeon modules
[09:29] <MarcoPau> module*
[09:30] <dwidmann_> MarcoPau: can you pastebin the portion of your /var/log/dpkg.log that pertains to your last upgrade?
[09:30] <dwidmann_> *pertains
[09:31] <dwidmann_> wait, I misread myself when proofreading afterwards, then corrected myself when I was right to begin with ...
[09:31]  * dwidmann_ drinks more coffee
[09:31] <MarcoPau> dwidmann_: can't really say which part is the one of the upgrade
[09:32] <dwidmann_> MarcoPau: then pastebin it all, I'll try to figure it out
[09:32] <MarcoPau> anyway I have to say that I'm using KDE 4.3 and kernel 2.6.31. actually when I upgraded the kernel I started having a few problems with the video card
[09:34] <dwidmann_> Normally this is the point where somebody would send you to #ubuntu+1, but I don't feel like being a prat this morning, so we'll continue here :)
[09:35] <dwidmann_> MarcoPau: the problem could be related to the X stack, the kernel, or the video drivers. We'll have to figure out which by switching each out, one at a time, starting with probably the video driver, then the kernel ... and just hope it's not X
[09:37] <MarcoPau> dwidmann_: as far as I googled it seems to be more likely kernel related, anyway just selected the interesting part of dpkg.log
[09:37] <MarcoPau> http://pastebin.com/d5bab403c there it is
[09:38] <dwidmann_> MarcoPau: I presume the interesting part means the part that starts with 2009-09-20, right?
[09:39] <MarcoPau> but let me tell you I first had this error RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM which seems to go away writing options radeon modeset=0 in /etc/modprobe.d/radeon.conf
[09:40] <dwidmann_> MarcoPau: do you by chance have an older backup kernel still installed (anything before the current should do, even if it's only one minor packaging revision ago)
[09:41] <MarcoPau> dwidmann_: well yes, I started with the kernel, then the whole upgrade and at the end you can see a few shots regarding radeon
[09:41] <MarcoPau> I got a 2.6.28
[09:41] <dwidmann_> You can give the 2.6.28 a try, sounds like a good plan actually, and see if that alleviates the problem
[09:42] <MarcoPau> iirc 2.6.28 had its problems as well. plus I think I needed the newer version for CMake or stuff like that
[09:43] <MarcoPau> anyway, should I try rebooting with 2.6.28?
[09:43] <dwidmann_> MarcoPau: Yes, trying the easy things first is always a good plan
[09:43] <MarcoPau> BRB then
[09:47] <MarcoPau> re
[09:47] <tasslehoff> how can I check my computers hostname?
[09:47] <MarcoPau> dwidmann_: still can't activate composite, but let's see errors in Xorg log and syslog
[09:48] <MarcoPau> (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM
[09:48] <MarcoPau> (EE) RADEON(0): Acceleration initialization failed
[09:48] <irccu> quit
[09:48] <dwidmann_> MarcoPau: different errors don't help much do they?
[09:49] <MarcoPau> same as before setting that radeon.conf... after that, on 2.6.31, it came up with AIGLX
[09:49] <MarcoPau> dwidmann_: actually it's the same thing
[09:50] <MarcoPau> but I guess options radeon modeset=0 doesn't make any difference on 2.6.28
[09:52] <MarcoPau> dwidmann_: should I go back to 2.6.31 or stay here?
[09:52] <dwidmann_> MarcoPau: Hmm, another thought, would it work if you tried to use the fglrx driver instead?
[09:52] <MarcoPau> gimme a sec I'll try setting it in xorg.conf
[09:58] <MarcoPau> dwidmann_: I get an apparmor fail at boot. might it be related as well or not?
[09:58] <dwidmann_> MarcoPau: no, shouldn't be
[09:58] <MarcoPau> ok installed fglrx, restarting X
[10:02] <MarcoPau> dwidmann_: no changes apparently. should I go back to 2.6.31 and try from there?
[10:02] <MarcoPau> with fglrx I mean
[10:02] <dwidmann_> MarcoPau: sure, you can try that
[10:02] <MarcoPau> BRB
[10:05] <bigbrovar> .
[10:09] <MarcoPau> dwidmann_: under 2.6.31 I get fail at loading fglrx at boot, and no display in Xorg
[10:09] <dwidmann_> Right ... guess that didn't fix that then
[10:11] <dwidmann_> (I'm glad I'm not the one running Karmic with an ATI card right now, for sure)
[10:14] <MarcoPau> dwidmann_: I got jaunty actually... plus, I remember that older kernels both in jaunty and intrepid had bigger problems with fglrx
[10:15] <MarcoPau> and I was never able to activate compiz. everybody was saying to wait for upgrades for radeon support or stuff like that
[10:15] <MarcoPau> that's why I was trying it back
[10:15] <Salero> compiz is nice
[10:15] <MarcoPau> it's been months since I haven't seen any FABULOUS desktop effect LOL
[10:16] <Salero> haha
[10:16] <dwidmann_> I had an ATI card working pretty well in Hardy, of course ... I've since switched back to an NVIDIA card though
[10:20] <MarcoPau> dwidmann_: am I supposed to drop it again here?
[10:20] <dwidmann_> MarcoPau: hm?
[10:20] <MarcoPau> checking for the fglrx fail error under 2.6.31 meanwhile
[10:22] <CrypTom> hi all, how can I add an Printer (shared by a windows server) so that every user has to enter his windows AD credentials before printing?
[10:22] <CrypTom> In the cups  add printer dialog (after choosing SMB-Printer) I see the option "Prompt user if authentication is required", but I'm never promted for a username/password
[10:24] <MarcoPau> dwidmann_: with the video problems
[10:25] <CrypTom> when I'm printing, it says "Held for authentication" but I'm not prompted for a password
[10:34] <MarcoPau> dwidmann_: hey, now composite is active!
[10:35] <MarcoPau> but extremely slow
[10:35] <dwidmann_> MarcoPau: how'd ya do it?
[10:36] <MarcoPau> dwidmann_: just tried activating it and it did. weird. but it's all slow
[10:36] <MarcoPau> heh, kde just came up with a notice saying it temporarily disabled compositing cause it's too slow
[10:37] <dwidmann_> Yeah, you can disable that from happening if you like slow compositing
[10:42] <MarcoPau> dwidmann_: any way to fasten it? this is unbearable, it's slow even typing here in kvirc
[10:44] <MarcoPau> tried disabling a few compositing options but this is still stuck
[10:45] <MarcoPau> seems like using a pentium 133 mhz :-D
[10:51] <dwidmann_> MarcoPau: that's dreadful, unfortunately unless you get hardware acceleration operational again it's going to be slow as sludge
[10:52] <MarcoPau> dwidmann_: that'd be dri, dri2 and such?
[10:52] <MarcoPau> I got a disable dri2 in xorg.conf
[10:53] <dwidmann_> I'm not sure ... I make it a point not to deal with ATI cards much if I can help it.
[10:53] <MarcoPau> LOL
[10:53] <MarcoPau> when I had nvidia it was painful all the same
[10:53] <MarcoPau> speaking about years ago
[10:54] <dwidmann_> (in the paste 5 years I've had around 5 nvidia cards, and 2 ati cards.
[10:54] <ct529> hi everybody. How do I add -march-native to the compilation flags in my computer configuration?
[10:55] <MarcoPau> dwidmann_: about the fail at loading fglrx under 2.6.31, may I indagate a bit? I don't seem to find anything useful in syslog strangely
[10:56] <dwidmann_> MarcoPau: a semi-recent nvidia like a 9800gt should work very well ... Actually my radeonhd 4670 was working well too, except ATI doesn't have a feature on the level with twinview ... that was a dealbreaker so I switched to the 9800gt.
[10:57] <dwidmann_> MarcoPau: can't say I ever had a problem with my 6600gt, 7600gt, 8600gt, or 7900gtx either ...... radeon 9700 on the other hand was a bit troublesome
[10:58] <dwidmann_> (actually, I did have some trouble with the 8600gt, it died an early death due to a well known fault in the chip)
[11:04] <MarcoPau> dwidmann_: trying to download latest drivers from ati website. it says I need posix enabled, do you know how to check that?
[11:05] <dwidmann_> should be fine, don't worry about that
[11:06] <MarcoPau> ok
[11:25] <baron86> Hello There.. I want to visualize a little my Kde! CAn anyone help me?
[11:30] <JoshOvki> heya. would it be more fresable to reinstall kubuntu, or would it be easy enough to move the system files over to a different drive?
[11:31] <JoshOvki> sp/feasible
[11:34] <baron86> I want to Have different background Images in each Folder
[11:48] <PHP_Alex> it there a repository for kde 4.4 trunk? for testing
[11:49] <MarcoPau> dwidmann_: I got it: latest ati drivers with 2.6.28. compositing working
[11:50] <MarcoPau> loads of problems on X with 2.6.31. I'll maybe try 2.6.30 or stick to 28 for the moment
[11:50] <MarcoPau> thanks for your help!
[11:58] <emeliot87> hi
[11:59] <emeliot87> i have a question... why I can't find file modprobe.conf in folder /etc/ ?? I have kubuntu. Please answer...
[12:06] <PHP_Alex> you should look in /etc/modprobe.d/
[12:06] <PHP_Alex> might be helpful
[12:30] <Ulta_> Bonjour a tous
[12:31] <Ulta_> Ubuntu 6.04 marche t'il sur un PC recent ?
[12:32] <Ulta_> Vous me conseillez quel version de ubuntu ? la derniere ?
[13:25] <slow-motion> hi
[13:31] <ubuntu> ;)
[13:32] <Newbee> hello everybody
[13:35] <Newbee> I tried to use nepomuk/strigi for indexing. But when I enable it in the KDE system settings it says: "Strigi service faild to initialize. Most likely due to an installation problem" But I didn't know that I would even have to install things. I thought that strigi is installed by default.
[13:35] <Newbee> I use Kubuntu Jaunty.
[13:36] <iapyx20> someone here who can give me a tip on something
[13:38] <Newbee> iapyx20: If I can help, of course. But what's the issue?
[13:39] <iapyx20> most of my music collection is on a drive that requests a password to access. if that is the problem (I'm assuming it is), amarok doesn't reload my files in the collection when I open it.
[13:39] <iapyx20> I created a symlink from /home/user/music to this directory, but it doesn't appear to make a difference in this case
[13:41] <iapyx20> I guess my objective is to make it so that directories on this partition aren't password protected
[13:42] <Newbee> iapyx20: so to make sure I got it. You use Amarok. Than you open/unlock your drive and amarok does not update your collection. And you want that amarok updates after you unlocked. Is this the point?
[13:42] <iapyx20> i'd prefer to not need to unlock anything, but yes.
[13:43] <iapyx20> is this just a case of setting permissions on that drive?
[13:44] <James147> iapyx20: Dosent Tools -> Update Collections do anything?
[13:44] <iapyx20> well, I just accessed the drive in dolphin and it asked for a password. it usually only does that once per session, to my knowledge, so i'll try updating again and see what it does this time.
[13:45] <Newbee> I haven't ever had such a scenario. But you could mount the drive with full rights for you an see what happens.
[13:48] <Newbee> I think if you are working with dolphin you will use some of the KDE kio things to access your drive. And I don't know how you wanted to make sure amarok makes use of this thing an takes the needed password. I am not a KDE expert so I just don't konw. But maybe you could mount your drive using the mount command. (I usually use the standart mount for example for samba shares)
[13:52] <fyl0n> Is it possible to damage a videocard when running ETQW under 9.04? because my system is dead now and I have no kernels to start.
[13:58] <Newbee> fyl0n: what did happen? Is your linux installation dead (and what does it say) or is your hardware dead (in this case I am sure I cannot help)
[14:01] <fyl0n> Newbee, Yes my hardware is dead.. my videocard is dead Nvidia EVGA 8800 GT SC and my hdd 1TB is totally empty. this happened after a crash of ETQW 1.5.
[14:02] <azhoral> hi
[14:02] <fyl0n> Videocard is so much damaged that it even won't run under windows or other OS.
[14:02] <azhoral> can i have some help with video card?
[14:02] <James147> azhoral: just ask you question, if someone knows they will answer
[14:03] <fyl0n> bought a new videocard and got 9.04 up and running again but won't try ETQW 1.5 anymore
[14:03] <Newbee> oh, sorry. I cannot imagine how this could happen. I use linux for some years now as my main system but I am not an expert. But how on earth should a game kill your filesystem? have you tried a live-CD?
[14:03] <fyl0n> I did.. no result
[14:03] <azhoral> i have a Ati Radeon HD 3400.. connected in HDMI port... my xorg file is empyt but when kdm start (or gdm not change) start with 1080p resolution...
[14:04] <fyl0n> I had ETQW 1.5 running under 8.04 for more than year and got no troubles what so ever.. but when I run ETQW under 9.04 I had sound issues.
[14:04] <azhoral> if i made xrandr -q --verbose i obtain all resolution
[14:05] <Newbee> fyl0n: nothing on the drive? Then it will probably be empty. Sorry but your problem is beyond my skills and knowledge. So I cannot help.
[14:05] <fyl0n> frame drops to 15 and after a 5 mins of running.. total system crash.
[14:05] <azhoral> but i wanna delete this :
[14:05] <azhoral>   1920x1080 (0x8a)   74.2MHz -HSync -VSync Interlace +preferred
[14:05] <azhoral>         h: width  1920 start 2008 end 2052 total 2200 skew    0 clock   33.8KHz
[14:05] <azhoral>         v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1094 total 1125           clock   30.0Hz
[14:05] <azhoral>   1920x1080 (0x8b)   74.2MHz -HSync -VSync Interlace
[14:05] <azhoral>         h: width  1920 start 2448 end 2492 total 2640 skew    0 clock   28.1KHz
[14:05] <azhoral>         v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1094 total 1125           clock   25.0Hz
[14:05] <azhoral>   1776x1000 (0x8c)   67.9MHz +HSync -VSync
[14:05] <azhoral>         h: width  1776 start 1824 end 2000 total 2224 skew    0 clock   30.5KHz
[14:05] <azhoral>         v: height 1000 start 1001 end 1004 total 1018           clock   30.0Hz
[14:05] <azhoral>   1776x1000 (0x8d)   55.2MHz +HSync -VSync
[14:05] <azhoral>         h: width  1776 start 1800 end 1976 total 2176 skew    0 clock   25.4KHz
[14:05] <azhoral>         v: height 1000 start 1001 end 1004 total 1015           clock   25.0Hz
[14:05] <azhoral> in xorg file i don't have nothing :(
[14:06] <fyl0n> this is FUBAR
[14:06] <James147> azhoral: please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[14:06] <azhoral> oh sorry
[14:06] <fyl0n> now I scared of trying to run ETQW under any new buntu version..
[14:06] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | azhoral
[14:07] <azhoral> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com:80/275239/
[14:08] <azhoral> I wanna use this resolution: 1680x1050 (in Kde) but kdm and kde see 1920*1080 the preferred resolution.
[14:09] <BluesKaj> fyl0n, what is ETQW , a game ?
[14:10] <fyl0n> yes it a game of id Software Enemy Territory Quake Wars
[14:11] <BluesKaj> fyl0n, do you have any other graphics issues?
[14:12] <azhoral> this is my Xorg.conf file.  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com:80/275244/
[14:13] <fyl0n> none what so ever.. I play lot of games under tux.. I use native tux clients.. no wine or what so ever
[14:13] <fyl0n> I've had the probs with sound and skype together
[14:13] <fyl0n> then I got a crash
[14:15] <fyl0n> I think the crash occurred when the sound system didn't work properly with ETQW and skype.
[14:16] <BluesKaj> fyl0n, then I can only tell you that skype has issues with pulseaudio and they are being worked on
[14:16] <fyl0n> because I didn't have a reasonable fps when started.. and got no sound.
[14:17] <fyl0n> but issues are common right.. this is a serious system crash.. :(
[14:17] <BluesKaj> fyl0n, make sure you have alsa-base and alsa-utils installed
[14:17] <fyl0n> both of them are the newest versions
[14:19] <fyl0n> I think the crash is related to the soundsystem in combination with skype wich I used at that moment.
[14:19] <fyl0n> but the videocard is so much damaged.. that it won't run anymore under any circumstances
[14:20] <BluesKaj> I think there's a problem with X and whatever video driver you're using
[14:21] <BluesKaj> fyl0n, which graphics card ?
[14:22] <fyl0n> I used the nvidia driver witch comes with the Kjockey.. it's a Nvidia EVGA 8800GT SC 512
[14:23] <azhoral> nobody have solution?
[14:24] <BluesKaj> fyl0n, make sure you have the nvidia-glx-185 driver installed
[14:24] <BluesKaj> fyl0n, check in your package manager
[14:27] <fyl0n> when the crash happened.. the latest driver was 180 series..
[14:28] <BluesKaj> as I said , make sure..it's important
[14:29] <fyl0n> thanx :) but crash did happen and damage has been done..
[14:29] <BluesKaj> what damage ?
[14:30] <fyl0n> total system crash
[14:31] <gnomefreak> system or X?
[14:31] <fyl0n> 1TB hdd totally EMPTY and videocard is DEAD
[14:31] <gnomefreak> kernel is unlikely to crash
[14:31] <BluesKaj> info is the key
[14:31] <fyl0n> yeah but what info if HDD is TOTALLY empty
[14:31] <BluesKaj> but , it's not forthcoming it seems
[14:31] <gnomefreak> s/unlikely/very unlikely
[14:32] <fyl0n> live boot won't help cause videocard is dead.
[14:32] <fyl0n> put in another videocard.. live boot will boot.. and try to mount my 1TB hdd witout luck
[14:32] <fyl0n> drive is totally empty
[14:33] <fyl0n> GRUB says no kernel to boot
[14:38] <BluesKaj>  fyl0n , ctrl+alt+f1 , update-grub
[14:41] <fyl0n> BluesKaj, gonna try that option. gotta go for now.. really thanx for the support BluesKaj :)
[15:00] <fahad> hi
[15:07] <vallhalla81> hi there i am having trouble getting desktop effects to work drivers for my nvidia card are loaded but when i go in to setting/desktop it says Compositing is not supported on your system. Required X extensions (XComposite and XDamage) are not available. but all i can find in synaptic on these are libxcomposite and libxdamage and they are installed
[15:08] <vallhalla81> could this be caused by using dual screeens ?
[15:22] <azhoral> i have problem with setting video card ATI in HDMI..
[15:22] <azhoral> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com:80/275239/
[15:22] <azhoral> I wanna use this resolution: 1680x1050 (in Kde) but kdm and kde see 1920*1080 the preferred resolution.
[15:22] <azhoral> this is my Xorg.conf file.  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com:80/275244/
[15:43] <Zxcvb_lap> does upgrading a package with dpkg or apt-get actually upgrade, or does it remove the old one and then install the new one?
[15:44] <LjL> Zxcvb_lap: uh... the difference being?
[15:44] <Zxcvb_lap> LjL: mainly, what happens if a file is present in the old package but not the new one?
[15:45] <LjL> Zxcvb_lap: gets deleted, afaik
[15:45] <LjL> Zxcvb_lap: though config files are treated specially
[15:46] <Zxcvb_lap> also, how would you install kde 4.3.1 and koffice 2.0.x from backports?
[15:46] <Zxcvb_lap> I do not want koffice 2.1 beta, but the latest 2.0.x
[15:58] <vallhalla81> hi there i am having trouble getting desktop effects to work drivers for my nvidia card are loaded but when i go in to setting/desktop it says Compositing is not supported on your system. Required X extensions (XComposite and XDamage) are not available. but all i can find in synaptic on these are libxcomposite and libxdamage and they are installed
[15:59] <azhoral> hi
[15:59] <azhoral> i have little problem with setting of videocard
[16:00] <BluesKaj> vallhalla81, which kubuntu version and nvidia card ?
[16:00] <azhoral> my kde start with 2 resolution
[16:00] <azhoral> before on 1080p Hdmi and then when is inside kde switch in 1680*1050...
[16:00] <azhoral> i wanna use only 1680*1050 but i can delete preferred to 1080p
[16:01] <vallhalla81> BluesKaj: i get the same with jaunty an kola
[16:02] <BluesKaj> which nvida
[16:02] <vallhalla81> BluesKaj: nvidia accelerated graphics driver version 185
[16:02] <BluesKaj> which card ?
[16:03] <vallhalla81> installed via the hardware drivers program
[16:03] <BluesKaj> ok ,nm ...taking a break
[16:03] <vallhalla81> nVidia Corporation G96 [GeForce 9500 GT]
[16:18] <PHP_Alex> does anybody knows how to fix slow window resizing on ati proprietary driver?
[16:40] <ship> wtf
[16:40] <ship> keyserver.ubuntu.com
[16:40] <ship> is down?
[16:42] <Pici> ship: Its been having some load issues lately, Just try whatever you're doing again.
[16:43] <ship> Pici: well i should install krita ..
[16:44] <ship> hang his balls and install it on karmic
[16:45] <ship> ok installed seems it's working
[16:45] <ship> ty anyway
[16:45] <Pici> Er, okay
[16:47] <Richcreek> hi ya'll
[16:56] <TutorialsPlsums> May someone help me?
[16:57] <James147> TutorialsPlsums: Just ask what you want to know and if someone can they will help you
[16:57] <TutorialsPlsums> Thanks.
[16:57] <TutorialsPlsums> Do i need any drivers for my hardware if i install ubuntu
[16:57] <TutorialsPlsums> ?
[16:58] <James147> TutorialsPlsums: Mostly no... but it highly depends on what hardware, most common hardware will work outof the box
[16:58] <TutorialsPlsums> Ah good.
[16:58] <TutorialsPlsums> I have a fairly old vaio laptop with realtek alc262 sound
[16:58] <James147> TutorialsPlsums: You can always use a livecd to see if the hardware works
[16:58] <TutorialsPlsums> livecd?
[16:59] <TutorialsPlsums> Sorry im a bit dumb
[16:59] <James147> TutorialsPlsums: A livecd is a bootable CD that contains a usable operating system
[16:59] <James147> TutorialsPlsums: So you can boot stright from the CD without installing anything
[17:00] <TutorialsPlsums> Thanks, im thinking of installing a distro of linux into a virtual machine to see if it will work.
[17:00] <ship> virtual machine
[17:00] <James147> TutorialsPlsums: keep in mind that you cant test most of your ahrdware with a virtual mechine
[17:00] <ship> is not like installing a linux distro
[17:00] <TutorialsPlsums> I know.
[17:01] <TutorialsPlsums> I might just format and then re-install linux on here.
[17:01] <TutorialsPlsums> If it doesnt work, then ill put windows back on, it needs a format anyway.
[17:01] <ship> virtual machine (virtual box ) has his own device
[17:01] <James147> TutorialsPlsums: You can also dual boot linux with other OS's
[17:01] <TutorialsPlsums> I know.
[17:01] <TutorialsPlsums> I was going to dual boot with windows.
[17:01] <ship> intel alc should work
[17:01] <TutorialsPlsums> Ship, would an intel gma 950 work?
[17:02] <James147> TutorialsPlsums: I suggest a liveCD as you can test the OS without touching your HD and then install it if you like it (most livecds have an option to install to HD)
[17:02] <ship> TutorialsPlsums: i have 945gm
[17:02] <TutorialsPlsums> Does it work?
[17:02] <ship> sure like you can seee here
[17:02] <TutorialsPlsums> James147, do i get a livecd from ubuntu?
[17:02] <TutorialsPlsums> Oh, your on ubuntu then =D
[17:02] <ship> TutorialsPlsums: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLVSaqvshRc&feature=channel_page
[17:03] <James147> TutorialsPlsums: Ubuntu's (and Kubuntu's) default installation disk (ie not the alterive installer) is a livecd
[17:03] <TutorialsPlsums> Im confused, so if i downloaded the iso, and burnt to a cd, it would be a live
[17:03] <TutorialsPlsums> cd?
[17:03] <ship> yes
[17:04] <James147> TutorialsPlsums: If you downloaded the desktop iso tehn yes
[17:04] <ship> there are:
[17:04] <ship> livecd for nice pc
[17:04] <ship> alternate cd for old pc
[17:04] <robin0800> TutorialsPlsums  its called a desktop cd
[17:04] <ship> desktop cd ---> nice pc ; alternate cd --->old pc
[17:04] <TutorialsPlsums> Im downloading the desktop iso at the minute, so if i burnt it to a DVD, it would give methe option of a livecd?
[17:04] <James147> alternate is not just for old pcs, but has more options on it as well... like settings up encryped drives during the install
[17:06] <James147> TutorialsPlsums: When you boot from kubuntu livecd it will give you a few options to choses from, the first one (and the default one) is to boot the live os
[17:06] <PHP_Alex> agreed
[17:06] <PHP_Alex> this one is for thoose, who want to take care of any aspect of installation
[17:06] <TutorialsPlsums> Sorry for being a noob, but if i boot from the disc, would it give me the option to format too?
[17:06] <PHP_Alex> also, it works faster a bit
[17:06] <PHP_Alex> imho
[17:06] <PHP_Alex> yes
[17:07] <TutorialsPlsums> Ok, im actually download the ubuntu iso, woops.
[17:07] <James147> TutorialsPlsums: Not directly, but once in teh liveCD you can format if you want to, the installer will guide you through formating and such things
[17:08] <James147> TutorialsPlsums: ubuntu is the same as kubuntu, they use the same reposities and everything... the only real difference is the packages they install by default. ubuntu uses the GNOME desktop enviroment and kubuntu uses the K desktop enviroment (kde)
[17:20] <u19809> are there packages for qt version 4.5.2 for kubuntu 9.04
[17:20] <RussellAlan> Have any designers in here?
[17:22] <James147> RussellAlan: Designers of what?
[17:23] <RussellAlan> GFX, or web
[17:23] <jsanchez> Here is a ppa with qt 4.5.2 https://launchpad.net/~debfx/+archive/qt
[17:24] <James147> RussellAlan: You might want to spicify more of what you are looking for, more ppl will be willing to help if they know more about what you want
[17:25] <RussellAlan> =D Well I know this isnt a design room, but id like to give business to my community of opensourcers.
[17:25] <TutorialsPlsums> 1 hour 30 mins left till ubuntu downloaded =]
[17:26] <RussellAlan> I'm trying to do a  Eco related website (green) for a eco-consulting theme/portfolio of resume.
[17:26] <RussellAlan> i just want something uniquely green
[17:26] <nadarilla> elow
[17:34] <fatih> hey, i have installed kubuntu 9.04 with wubi. i can access my windows files on kubuntu but i cant open root.disk on windows vista with necessary software. any help?
[17:36] <S-man_> hello
[17:44] <nadarilla> gudeve..
[17:45] <genii> !ph | nadarilla
[17:47] <nadarilla> join #ubuntu-ph
[17:47] <nadarilla> join #ubuntu-ph
[17:47] <genii> nadarilla: /join #ubuntu-ph
[17:55] <Guest84516> titanic
[18:17] <idx3> bonsoir
[18:29] <seest> hello
[18:30] <seest> i am wondering how to convert avi files to a movie dvd (not a file)
[18:31] <bentob0x> when you type fish://, is it encrypted?
[18:31] <bentob0x> in Dolphin
[18:32] <bentob0x> (hah, fish in dolphin lol)
[18:33] <James147> bentob0x: fish:// uses the ssh protocal i beleave, however I think sftp:// is the better method
[18:33] <genii> seest: devede
[18:34] <genii> !info devede | seest
[18:35] <seest> genii, thank you, i'll try that out
[18:40] <bentob0x> k, after a bit of reading: SFTP is a FTP sub subsection of the SSH protocol where FISH is some kind of nice perl hack where SFTP isn't available, SFTP is more reliable than FISH
[18:41] <uga|away> genii: dvd-create, k3b, kde dvdauthor, etc are no good? =)
[18:45] <uga> bentob0x: yes, sftp works most of the cases anyway, so it's better using it
[18:46] <uga> it only needs support from the remote server
[18:46] <uga> bentob0x: fish is rather hackish. it's been broken for a while, but fixed in the later kde 4.x releases
[18:46] <genii> uga: devede can take an avi/other footage, make and burn the DVD for a standalone player in one shot
[18:46] <bentob0x> yea, I saw that recently in some 4.X changelog
[18:48] <uga> genii: heh, somebody should wrap all the kde apps into a single one I guess. I'm half (only half) sure k3b has such capability anyway (encoding + burning)
[18:54] <seest> uga, i didn't make k3b to dió this funktion, but i can of cause bee wrong...
[18:55] <uga> seest: I just tried, and I see it creates the folders for video_ts and audio_ts, but no idea how to add the movie, so maybe it doesn't do so
[18:55] <uga> I wonder why it doesn't do like it does for audio
[19:17] <apparle> What all does the firefox installer in Kubuntu 9.10 do
[19:20] <daniele__RM> hi  who help me?
[19:20] <MsMaco> apparle: it downloads and installs firefox. thats it.
[19:20] <James147> daniele__RM: Just ask your question, if someone knows the answer they will help you
[19:20] <ubunturos> !ask | daniele__RM,
[19:21] <W4gn3r> short and sweet
[19:21] <W4gn3r> =P
[19:22] <jonathan___> hello
[19:22] <jonathan___> i need help
[19:23] <BluesKaj> !ask | jonathan___
[19:23] <jonathan___> how do you get a network printer installed in kubuntu
[19:23] <daniele__RM> i'd like tu upgrade my kubuntu 6.10
[19:23] <daniele__RM> but the repository do'n exist :(
[19:23] <daniele__RM> so when my upgrade manager says me : upgrade to kubuntu 7.4
[19:26] <lovre> hi all
[19:26] <lovre> how can i make windows title bar look like this? http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=97644&file1=97644-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=darkPearl+for+QtCurve
[19:27] <daniele__RM> you need to change theme
[19:28] <lovre> well, i selected the themes but none look like this....
[19:29] <lovre> by theme you mean style?
[19:29] <daniele__RM> yes sorry
[19:30] <lovre> daniele__RM: well, as i said, none of them look like that. Is it possible to add new ones, and if yes, how?
[19:31] <daniele__RM> i don't remember the correct path
[19:31] <daniele__RM> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/SmoothAndEasy+Bespin?content=112079
[19:32] <daniele__RM> this is an example
[19:32] <daniele__RM> you need to download a them
[19:32] <daniele__RM> end copy theme file with other them
[19:33] <lovre> daniele__RM: the thing is, i did download it, and imported, but i didnt get that. I got everythin else dark and ok, but title bar is only dark, not changed to what is shown in the picture.
[19:33] <lovre> is it possible to change it in KWin?
[19:38] <simontol> Hi
[19:38] <simontol> I'm on KDE4.3.1 and I've noticed that scroling a page in Firefox is slower than in Gnome, is there any workaround?
[19:59] <seest> hi
[20:00] <seest> i was wondering how it could be that kubuntu suddenly won't find my deskdrev?
[20:00] <seest> it have been working earlier today
[20:01] <ZmAY> how can i extract multiple rar files at once in console, torrent movie file?
[20:04] <mariner> unrar x file.rar
[20:09] <seest> i think it is strange that my computer can't recognize any empty discs, but easily discs that ive burned earlier? is there any solution for this problem?
[20:17] <Alumin> this may be a question more for ##linux, but...where can I go to read up on how to convert my current knowledge on editing xorg.conf to the hew HAL system?  I've got some things I want to set up (new fancy keyboard, graphics tablet) that I know how to configure in xorg.conf, but I'd rather learn it the new way if that's what it's gonna be going forward
[20:25] <vallhalla81> hello and a good evening to one and all i am having trouble getting Compositing to work on my system in both kde4 and gnome my drivers seem fully installed for my nvidia card can any advise please thank you in advance
[20:26] <bentob0x> what's the KDE equivalent of a 'shortcut' to a text file under Windows?
[20:27] <Alumin> bentob0x: well, this would be for any file, not just a text file, but the UNIX equivalent of an MS Windows shortcut is called a symlink
[20:27] <Alumin> short for "symbolic link" or "soft link"
[20:29] <mariner> (on desktop) right click -> create new -> link to location
[20:34] <server_side> does kubuntu  support everythiing ubuntu dopes?
[20:35] <server_side> does*
[20:35] <James147> server_side: kubuntu and ubuntu use the same repositories... so yes :)
[20:35] <server_side> ok, i have a dual monitor setup is that a problem?
[20:36] <bentob0x> thx Alumin, mariner
[20:36] <James147> server_side: what are you trying to ask?
[20:36] <vallhalla81> server_side: i run a dual screen setup just fine
[20:36] <bentob0x> I also realised that dragging a file somewhere else has a 'link here' menu
[20:37] <bentob0x> which is creating a symlink
[20:37] <server_side> vallhalla81, ok great, is kubuntu faster than windows, im so tired of windows i hate it
[20:37] <vallhalla81> server_side: yes in most cases it is
[20:45] <Alumin> server_side: the extra speed isn't really a good reason by itself to switch, though
[20:46] <Alumin> if you're thinking about making the switch from MS Windows, I'd recommend trying it out first, either with the Kubuntu Live CD, or better yet a WUBI install, or a dual boot
[21:04] <vallhalla81> hello and a good evening to one and all i am having trouble getting Compositing to work on my system in both kde4 and gnome my drivers seem fully installed for my nvidia card can any advise please thank you in advance
[21:28] <haunilistic> hello everybody. i have a logitech mx1100 mouse. is there any way to utilize the 4th mouse button in linux?
[21:59] <genii> !buttons | haunilistic
[22:01] <haunilistic> ubottu: thx
[22:01] <haunilistic> ubottu: ?
[22:02] <genii> haunilistic: ubottu is just a tool we have here
[22:03] <haunilistic> genii: some kind of ai? that's supercool
[22:04] <genii> haunilistic: Well, they are not intelligent... they only have lists of what we call factoids that we can call up with !factoidname
[22:05] <haunilistic> genii: uh ha.
[22:05] <snarkster1> ok so i goto the restricted formats page to get information regarding mp3 support. there is a link that you click to fix the problem for you but neather konq nor firefox now how to handle that.. wth is that all about?
[22:07] <genii> snarkster1: That link uses apt-url which likely you don't have installed.
[22:07] <Synapse-119> Hello everyone! Can anyone tell me why kpackage in kde 4.3.1 doesn't work?
[22:08] <Synapse-119> It hangs short after start, not showing any tree
[22:08] <snarkster1> yah i dont, shouldnt that be including in the page tho? like "you should have apt-url install before clicking this"
[22:08] <snarkster1> there is no package called apt-url
[22:09] <snarkster1> there is no package called url-apt either
[22:10] <snarkster1> i also tried to use vice and it hard locks the system killing X
[22:12] <genii> !info apturl
[22:12] <genii> Hm
[22:13] <tim> hi. When i ls i have two directories with the same name anyone know how to deal with such problem?
[22:13] <snarkster1> ah i see.. didnt remove the hyphen. :) thanx
[22:14] <snarkster1> wow that requires alot of gnome stuff
[22:15] <snarkster1> one might have a space in the name
[22:15] <snarkster1> which i might add isnt a good thing
[22:17] <tim> not to worry just realised dont really need them anyway just deleted both, start again
[22:24] <ojw> how come nothing in kde pops-up to say that kpackage kit would have N critical security updates, were you to remember to run it?
[23:01] <limao> ya des francais ?
[23:01] <limao> allooooooooo
[23:01] <limao> ya des francais ?
[23:03] <limao> bon..
[23:03] <limao> tampis
[23:04] <LjL> !fr
[23:04] <LjL> by the way, i think it's "il y a des françaises", fwiw
[23:05] <limao> lol
[23:05] <limao> vous allez bien ?
[23:06] <LjL> CE canal est en anglais.
[23:06] <LjL> #ubuntu-fr, qui est un OTRE canal, est en francais.
[23:16] <owner> owner123


[03:58] <angch> xmir will not be on 13.10. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/13.10/NoDefaultQ%26A
[06:31] <excalibr> yay
[06:37] <excalibr> first right thing that canonical has done since last amazon lens fiasco
[06:41] <angch> excalibr, ? missed context
[06:42] <excalibr> i was talking about that decision of theirs
[06:44] <excalibr> good lah..or else it would half baked unity all over again
[06:44] <angch> oh that.
[06:45] <angch> meh. either way, just make it work. the danger is that we will reach another lts before they test xmir one non-lts before.
[06:45] <angch> so if xmir is in the next lts and its not as tested, we're in for 2 years of oops.