[00:01] <animalroam> Is hexdump not on Ubuntu 14.04? http://pastebin.com/fLs7P9Yi
[00:02] <jatt> bsdmainutils
[00:02] <teward> animalroam: it's not its own package
[00:02] <SchrodingersScat> !info bsdmainutils | animalroam
[00:02] <teward> ^
[00:03] <EriC`> im trying to dist-upgrade a laptop and i keep getting Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/eglibc/libc-bin_2.19-0ubuntu6.5_amd64.deb  Hash Sum mismatch , i've deleted the lists & partial dirs and .deb's and changed mirrors, any ideas?
[00:04] <animalroam> How would I go about searching for the package w/ command next time?  I thought dpkg -S was the way to go
[00:04] <EriC`> animalroam, apt-cache search <package>
[00:04] <animalroam> EriC`: I only know the command name, not the package name
[00:05] <EriC`> you mean you know the name of the binary and you want the package?
[00:05] <EriC`> animalroam, you can use ubottu here, /msg ubottu !find <file name> , or install apt-file
[00:05] <animalroam> EriC`: I want to use a command but I don't know the name of the package that has that command
[00:06] <EriC`> what's the name of the command
[00:09] <__CM__> hi question... does anyone have the issue in Unity when dragging a window from one desktop workspace to another that it just gets stuck on the workspace switcher and the only way to get out of it is to CTRL ALT F6 and kill lightdm and restart it?
[00:09] <__CM__> im using 14.04
[00:09] <RustyShackleford> I have a strange problem with google-chrome and ubuntu 14.10
[00:09] <__CM__> I use FF
[00:10] <__CM__> whats your issue rusty?
[00:10] <RustyShackleford> keyboard input will suddenly break after being open for a while
[00:10] <RustyShackleford> so things like ctrl-t will work, but not typing into forms or the address bar
[00:10] <__CM__> ooh go turn off the acceleration
[00:10] <__CM__> in chrome options I had that issue
[00:10] <RustyShackleford> one solution on askubuntu was to disaule ibus
[00:10] <__CM__> where typing nothing happens
[00:10] <__CM__> yea ibus too
[00:11] <RustyShackleford> __CM__: can you remember any more details? acceleration of what?
[00:11] <__CM__> hardware acceleration
[00:11] <teward> does anyone know of a GUI tool that works with gpt partition tables and exfat partitions as well?
[00:11] <teward> in addition to everything gparted does
[00:11] <__CM__> gparted
[00:11] <__CM__> oh
[00:11] <teward> (for 14.04 if possible)
[00:11] <teward> __CM__: doesn't work with exfat, and doesn't like gpt as much per testing
[00:11] <__CM__> o
[00:12] <RustyShackleford> __CM__: okay disabled that, let's seei if that helps
[00:12] <RustyShackleford> wouldn't I want hardware acceleration normally? seems like a desireable setting
[00:16] <EriC`> i tried downloading the .deb manually from the repo site but dpkg won't install it either , this is the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/10348709/
[00:17] <__CM__> RustyShackleford: close chrome completly then re open it so that takes effect
[00:23] <__CM__> did it work RustyShackleford
[00:24] <RustyShackleford> __CM__: so far so good, but the problem takes a while to appear
[00:25] <__CM__> yep it does
[00:25] <RustyShackleford> sometimes it takes 5 mins, other times an hour or more
[00:25] <__CM__> mine was after a few min
[00:25] <__CM__> like 20 or so min
[00:25] <__CM__> sometimes longer
[00:25] <RustyShackleford> well disabling ibus definitely helped
[00:25] <RustyShackleford> it was taking 5 mins before
[00:26] <__CM__> yea
[00:26] <RustyShackleford> i used this machine all morning with no problems. Ran some errands and came back
[00:26] <__CM__> I gave up on chrome Lol
[00:26] <RustyShackleford> now it's acting up
[00:26] <RustyShackleford> oh i'm very much a google fanboy
[00:26] <__CM__> now you have to use like... the real chrome someone told me chromium is no longer being fixed.
[00:26] <__CM__> or something like that
[00:26] <RustyShackleford> i use that one anyway. Built-in pdf reader
[00:27] <RustyShackleford> and a few other bells and whistles
[00:27] <__CM__> chrome or chromium your talking about RustyShackleford with the built in pdf reader?
[00:27] <RustyShackleford> google chrome
[00:27] <Matviy> I have a process with a constant 4KB/s disk write, is there a way to figure out what it's doing? Where it's writing?
[00:27] <k1l> what? chromium is the codebase from chrome
[00:28] <__CM__> oh someone told me to use chrome and not chromium because they update the flash player more than they do chromium or something like that
[00:28] <RustyShackleford> built in flash too, yeah
[00:28] <RustyShackleford> no need for the flash plugin
[00:28] <__CM__> o
[00:28] <k1l> __CM__: that is a total different thing
[00:28] <__CM__> oh
[00:29] <k1l> you made it sound like the whole browser is end of life. that is just false
[00:29] <__CM__> o
[00:30] <k1l> fact is: adobe killt flash for linux and google got their own flash for chrome now. named pepperflash
[00:30] <__CM__> yeah pepperflash
[00:32] <astropirate> I want to curl a very long URL, but my terminal escapes on some strange symbols
[00:32] <astropirate> how can I tell it not to do that
[00:32] <astropirate> I am currently surrounding the URL with '  '
[00:32] <astropirate> but to no avail
[00:33] <astropirate> and the URL doesn't have any ' chars
[00:44] <favasto> ciao
[00:44] <favasto> !list
[00:48] <linuxuz3r> xD
[00:48] <nico__> xD
[00:49] <Lorcatar> Alright Listen up. I recently unmounted a drive umount then remounted it. However when I use deluge to torrent the little download icon next to the torrent is red.  Thanks bros.
[00:52] <Gimpie41> I am newbie to Ubuntu; old time user of windows (since 1980).  Love the OS, but would like to use Microsoft Streets and Trips.  I installed Wine and then Streets And Trips.  However, it is asking for activation, except when I provide it, it stills asks for activation.  Anyone know how I can get past this?  I own copy of Streets and Trips.  Gimpie41
[00:53] <SchrodingersScat> !appdb
 Alright Listen up. I recently unmounted a drive umount then remounted it. However when I use deluge to torrent the little download icon next to the torrent is red.  Thanks bros.
[00:53] <Gimpie41> Thanks
[00:53] <Gimpie41> quit
[00:54] <Gimpie41> exit
[00:54] <SchrodingersScat> Gimpie41: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=30528 not looking good
[00:54] <Lorcatar> use a slash idiot
[00:54] <SchrodingersScat> !guidelines | Lorcatar
[00:59] <blackflow> Hello. Any ideas why Steam is not installable through Software Center on 14.04?
[01:00] <aeon-ltd> blackflow: what happens when you try?
[01:01] <blackflow> aeon-ltd: there's no Install button, only Buy
[01:03] <pbx> blackflow, the Steam app itself is free, no?
[01:03] <blackflow> pbx: of course
[01:03] <RustyShackleford> __CM__: well so far no issues with chrome
[01:04] <RustyShackleford> thanks
[01:04] <c3m0> what's up guys
[01:04] <Bashing-om> blackflow: What results -> sudo apt-get install steam <- ??
[01:04] <pbx> blackflow, FWIW i seem to have installed it from software center on 14.04 as "steam-launcher"
[01:04] <blackflow> Bashing-om: it installs, but I can't run it, it segfaults
[01:05] <pbx> blackflow, http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/steam-launcher
[01:09] <blackflow> And this is what I get if I install steam from the command line with apt-get, and then run steam: https://dpaste.de/NxG9
[01:09] <k1l_> iirc the softwarecenter doesnt seperate between buying and free loading
[01:22] <__CM__> yay RustyShackleford
[01:28] <ubuntu-studio> the police are coming, look out your....
[01:29] <pbx> oh stop
[01:30] <ubuntu-studio> im farting french farts
[01:30] <ubuntu-studio> poot
[01:30] <ubuntu-studio> poot
[01:30] <ubuntu-studio> poot
[01:31] <ubuntu-studio> pooty poot
[01:31] <ubuntu-studio> pooty pootjour
[01:31] <teward> !ops | ubuntu-studio trolling / disrupting
[01:31] <ubuntu-studio> pootain
[01:31] <ubuntu-studio> look out your ...cops are there now!
[01:31] <phunyguy> ubuntu-studio: do you mind?
[01:32] <poot> howdy
[01:54] <jddviramontes> hola, hay alguien ahi?
[01:54] <AcidRain> how do i allow a user access to the rndc command
[01:55] <kailas> Hi guys, this might not be Ubuntu specific, but what service if at all if it exists must I install if I want to have a dynamic IP and yet be able to connect to my machine
[01:56] <kailas> I am mainly interested in having a dynamic IP and be able to connect to my webpage/app/ssh
[01:57] <AcidRain> how do i allow a user access to the rndc command
[01:59] <jddviramontes> How can I do to make faster my ubuntu 14.04?
[02:03] <AcidRain> how do i allow a user access to the rndc command
[02:04] <aeon-ltd> jddviramontes: what are your specs? and how much are you willing to change ubuntu?
[02:04] <lauren> Hey everyone, how slow or fast is "64 bytes from lga15s43-in-f14.1e100.net (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=511 ttl=53 time=141ms" ?
[02:05] <aeon-ltd> lauren: says right there, latency is 141ms (time)
[02:05] <lauren> aeon-ltd: yes, but is that fast, or slow?
[02:06] <redlama42> I'm running 15.04 alpha right now, would turning on (vivid-proposed) break my system?
[02:06] <aeon-ltd> lauren: my opinion, slow. it really depends if you need low latency or not like in gaming
[02:07] <lauren> aeon-ltd: I'm asking because I have had lots of internet troubles tonight, and I finally got it working but the ping seems to be responding very slowly. The problem is that all my other devices are working much faster than that, and I can't figure out why.
[02:07] <jddviramontes> aeon-ltd: only I need to put a little more faster, I think that with the updates it become slow¡¡¡
[02:08] <aeon-ltd> lauren: i just pinged the same ip, i'm in england, got 100ms avg
[02:08] <lauren> I had a problem with dhcp, so I switched to ipv4 and managed to connect to my modem, but still couldn't get online.  Any idea why?
[02:09] <aeon-ltd> jddviramontes: there are a lot of tweaks you can do, but really changing Desktop Environment from unity to something lighter will free up resources to use
[02:09] <aeon-ltd> lauren: maybe cause your using google's dns servers :) ... honestly no idea
[02:10] <jddviramontes> aeon-ltd: please give an example
[02:10] <lauren> aeon-ltd: Are there better dns servers to use? I got the idea from just googling the answer, I'm new to ubuntu so I'm trying to figure this out as I go
[02:12] <cluelessperson> how do you easily add a key to a server?
[02:12] <cluelessperson> this is a freaking headache
[02:12] <aeon-ltd> jddviramontes: like xfce or lxde, they require less processing power and ram to use. slowdowns are usually caused by your processor going as fast as it can therefore not being able to do much else, or shortages on ram which forces ubuntu to use your hard drive as ram (swap files/ partitions) hard drives are much slower than ram.
[02:13] <aeon-ltd> lauren: sorry i'm not much help, but i usually just use my isp's dns servers
[02:13] <lauren> aeon-ltd: That's ok. Yea, that's what I usually do too, but ubuntu hasn't wanted to work with my new modem, and I've had to manually configure everything to get it working, including dns
[02:14] <jddviramontes> aeon-ltd: thanks, I will try xfce or lxde
[02:18] <RustyShackleford> do we have a good solution for google drive?
[02:18] <RustyShackleford> i guess theres a tool called drive
[02:18] <RustyShackleford> http://www.howtogeek.com/196635/an-official-google-drive-for-linux-is-here-sort-of-maybe-this-is-all-well-ever-get/
[02:20] <Elimin8er> Question, I moved my Linux System Drive to another Better system, They both have the same AMD Chipsets and ATI cards just diffrent series. Anyhow. I cant seem to get video to work correctly. I got to boot with recovery mode to get to any type of xserver screens. I tried the fglrx and even though it loaded with no probems acording to dmesg and logs.. but I still had blacked out screen.. any clue on what to do or try? I did the nomodeset
[02:20] <Elimin8er> in kernel boot options.. that doesnt help.
[02:21] <Elimin8er> and yes I removed the fglrx because it wouldnt let me see any screen,.
[02:23] <xjkx> I had a couple of electricity problems today, pc was shut wrongly in all of them, what should I do ? Error tests, etc, forgot what I used to do
[02:25] <cluelessperson> Ubuntu won't let this user log in
[02:26] <Bashing-om> xjkx: Able to boot to terminal ? then -> sudo touch /forcefsck , sudo shutdown -r now . Else run a file system check from the liveDVD .
[02:27] <xjkx> Bashing-om: thanks
[02:27] <Qwertie> Will the erase disk and install ubuntu let you pick a drive?
[02:32] <Elimin8er> i guess im out of luck.. Time to do more Googling............
[02:33] <hplc> is there any diagnostic tool at all to help troubleshooting, something that works like rkhunter, chkrootkit or tiger?, but for checking conflicting/missing/misplaced libs/files?
[02:34] <hplc> ldconfig, ldd, pldd, log-files etc etc is an eternal digging that goes nowhere sometimes
[02:34] <Ben64> hplc: debsums maybe
[02:34] <cluelessperson> Qwertie, yes
[02:35] <cluelessperson> I'm getting told that my password is wrong, but it's not, I just changed it, wtf
[02:35]  * cluelessperson hates ubuntu configuration
[02:35] <dual-booter-583> it's 2015.... why is dual-booting ubuntu still so effing difficult?
[02:36] <dual-booter-583> can someone recommend the appropriate forum for attempting to troubleshot my system that won't boot?
[02:36] <cluelessperson> dual-booter-583, it's not.
[02:36] <cluelessperson> dual-booter-583, what's the problem?
[02:37] <dual-booter-583_> um. anyway, yeah, last time I had this issue I tried to re-install ubuntu, and ended up having to re-install Windows as well
[02:37] <Josh> fo
[02:38] <oscarvarto> I want to try gcc-5 and did `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test`. After `apt-get update` and `apt-get upgrade` I cannot find gcc-5
[02:38] <dual-booter-583_> i'd like to just be able to troubleshoot and fix why Ubuntu doesn't boot without messing with the disk partitioning or grub so Windows stays intact
[02:38] <oscarvarto> how come?
[02:38] <oscarvarto> gcc-5 is listed here https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test as available
[02:39] <owen1> carbon x1 2nd gen. headphone jack not working. is this my solution? http://askubuntu.com/a/237710
[02:39] <trism> oscarvarto: only for vivid
[02:39] <JoshG`> hi all, i've had ubuntu installed for a while, did some package updates today, including building a few from source, i enabled a compiz module which caused the window manager to crash, rebooted and im now unable to start the desktop, any help please?
[02:39] <Bashing-om> dual-booter-583_: To do that, 2 hard drives . bootleader on each hard drive .
[02:40] <Flugz> oscarvarto: what ubuntu version are you on?
[02:41] <oscarvarto> trism, Flugz: I'm on 14.10 (utopic)
[02:41] <oscarvarto> trism: How can I upgrade to vivid?
[02:42] <ObrienDave> don't ;P
[02:45] <Flugz> oscarvarto: then your repository should be 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-toolchain-r/test/ubuntu utopic main'.. is that in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[02:46] <Ben64> oscarvarto: that repository doesn't have gcc5 for utopic
[02:51] <Bashing-om> oscarvarto: GCC: See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ToolChain .
[02:55] <oscarvarto> Flugz: no, but it is listed in a file inside directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[02:56] <oscarvarto> Flugz, Ben64, Bashing-om: I have tried something dumb, I think, changed utopic to vivid in deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-toolchain-r/test/ubuntu vivid main
[02:56] <oscarvarto> I think it won't work
[02:58] <Flugz> oscarvarto: see Ben64's answer, seems it's only available for Vivid (15.04)
[02:58] <JoshG`> hi all, my X will not start, it complains with; "screens found but none have a usable configuration", i have tried the failsafe config
[02:59] <andy__> I wonder how to check the configuration for your screens.
[03:00] <Ben64> oscarvarto: don't do that
[03:00] <Ben64> oscarvarto: you're going to break your system
[03:00] <oscarvarto> Ben64: I think I have already broken it :(
[03:00] <andy__> Do you know which file to look in for the screen configuration?
[03:01] <tre_> hi folks
[03:01] <Flugz> hmm.. guess I found the reason to Xorg gobbeling up 3-4 GB of ram after 6-7 days uptime: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1354350 :-/
[03:01] <tre_> I want to install estonian language pack and I get Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox-locale-et_35.0+build3-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_amd64.deb
[03:01] <oscarvarto> Ben64: How can I restore my previous installation of gcc stuff ?
[03:01] <Flugz> gonna try catalyst 14.12 from the amd website I think :-)
[03:01] <JoshG`> andy__: i do not
[03:01] <tre_> after which it aborts install
[03:01] <tre_> how I can make it omit missing FF package?
[03:02] <Ben64> oscarvarto: try ppa-purge, but you might have broken everything now
[03:03] <tre_> I have tried -m yet to work
[03:04] <andy__> JoshG`, I am not sure if you have a web browser installed on your terminal, but I just looked up the error message you quoted.
[03:05] <andy__> JoshG`, https://www.google.com/search?q=screens+found+but+none+have+a+usable+configuration&oq=screens+found+but+none+have+a+usable+configuration&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2162j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8
[03:05] <andy__> JoshG`, It looks like there could be a problem with an Nvidia driver, from the search results?
[03:07] <tre_> lol
[03:07] <tre_> :)
[03:07] <hplc> iirc theres a command for debugging when a program gets started from shell, but i forgot the name, it kinda shows what the program is calling for in realtime, any suggestions?
[03:08] <EriC`> hplc, strace?
[03:08] <hplc> EriC`, thats the one, thx :)
[03:08] <EriC`> np :)
[03:09] <JoshG`> andy__ i've attempted some of the fixes from google search to no luck so far, most of them seem to do with incorrectly configuring the monitor mode, however im using an amd card
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[03:11] <andy__> JoshG`, That's too bad.
[03:11] <JoshG`> additionally running Xorg -configure segfaults
[03:13] <andy__> JoshG`, http://askubuntu.com/questions/159663/how-to-reset-the-xorg-xserver
[03:13] <andy__> Does that help?
[03:15] <JoshG`> unfortunately not, it isnt account specific and i've tried most of the solutions on there now, and trying to -configure segfaults anyway
[03:19] <denis_> est-ce que nous avons des bons jeux comme on avait pour window?
[03:19] <cfhowlett> !fr | denis_
[03:19] <denis_> ok i am sorry
[03:21] <andy__> JoshG`, It looks like I couldn't help you much.
[03:21] <andy__> sorry.
[03:22] <JoshG`> thats okay, thanks for your help
[03:22] <redlama42_> Anyone know how to get Unity8 on vivid?
[03:25] <Flugz> redlama42: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8Desktop
[03:28] <edenist> hey
[03:28] <edenist> does anyone know what's going on with the 14.04.2 release?
[03:28] <edenist> was delayed 2 weeks I know
[03:29] <cfhowlett> edenist, it's out now
[03:29] <edenist> but I still can't see it on the repo's even now
[03:29] <edenist> hmmmm
[03:29] <Bashing-om> edenist: It hit the streets yesterday .
[03:29] <andy__> I just did sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:29] <edenist> thats what I thought, but still not coming through.
[03:29] <edenist> I'll change to another mirror perhaps
[03:29] <cfhowlett> andy__, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:29] <andy__> after changing the version name in my repository to utopic
[03:30] <Bashing-om> edenist: -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , reboot and see: -> lsb_release -a <- .
[03:31] <andy__> Things look better, but I am not sure if everything is okay.
[03:31] <andy__> The computer had trouble shutting down last night.
[03:31] <andy__> So if I do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, that will fix it?
[03:32] <edenist> yeah apt-get upgrade shows no updates available
[03:33] <interest1ng> edenist: did you apt-get update first?
[03:34] <andy__> With no response, I guess I will see if the dist-upgrade will fix the installation.
[03:35] <edenist> interest1ng, yes I did ;-)
[03:36] <edenist> huh, still nothing even on the main ubuntu repo
[03:36] <edenist> this is weird
[03:37] <cfhowlett> edenist, could be your mirror is delayed.  it happens.
[03:37] <cfhowlett> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[03:37] <edenist> ive changed mirrors and it still isn't appearing
[03:37] <edenist> i dunno.... i mean its not urgent. just odd
[03:38] <andy__> #join ubuntu-chat
[03:42] <andy__> sorry, trying to find a chat channel with ubuntu users in it.
[03:44] <JoshG`> hey all, i got my desktop back :) through removing my X11 config, regenerating it with amdconfig --initial and then re-installing the propietary driver, X11 was happy to start
[03:45] <ackpacket> I have a feeling the answer is no, since this would be wildly insecure, but can I attach gdb to a process that's being run by root?
[03:45] <andy__> JoshG`, That's great.
[03:45] <ackpacket> *that was ran by
[03:45] <ackpacket> as a non sudo'er
[03:45] <diegoaguilar> Hello, if I have a lot of unreachble servers when trying apt-get update
[03:45] <diegoaguilar> what should I do to fix?
[03:45] <ackpacket> diegoaguilar: check your internet connection
[03:46] <Garph> Hey, where can I find the source code for echo?
[03:47] <diegoaguilar> I do have internet
[03:47] <diegoaguilar> its this very same machine
[03:47] <diegoaguilar> ackpacket,
[03:47] <trism> Garph: apt-get source coreutils
[03:48] <EriC`> Garph, apt-get source coreutils maybe?
[03:53] <cyberfab007> hello room
[03:55] <cyberfab007> does anyone have a script for like a ungodly web stack on ubuntu with every , php mysql ruby python apache etc
[03:56] <azizLIGHT> is it cool if i add a repo to sources list instead of ppa
[03:57] <EriC`> azizLIGHT, add it as a file to sources.list.d
[03:58] <cyberfab007> anyone   ?
[03:59] <azizLIGHT> alright
[03:59] <azizLIGHT> cyberfab007: maybe they got instances pre-setup on ec2
[03:59] <aeon-ltd> cyberfab007: 1. why do you need this? 2. what's wrong with doing it manually?
[04:00] <cyberfab007> just trying to save time
[04:00] <cyberfab007> I think I will just do manually ,
[04:00] <andy__> There is a website with some tutorials.
[04:00] <cyberfab007> ruby can be troublesome if you dont do it right
[04:01] <cyberfab007> just suprised there is no scirpt out there , just simple ones
[04:01] <aeon-ltd> lamp?
[04:01] <EriC`> is there a way to view youtube videos without the videos just audio?
[04:02] <cyberfab007> close your eyes
[04:02] <cyberfab007> lol
[04:02] <andy__> You can download the audio by itself with youtube-dl
[04:02] <aeon-ltd> youtube music key?
[04:02] <cyberfab007> andy__,  yegh lamp
[04:02] <EriC`> andy__, yeah but i need to see it without downloading first
[04:02] <cyberfab007> but I was looking for a script to include ruby and rails
[04:02] <cyberfab007> and python
[04:03] <andy__> cyberfab007, what about lamp?>
[04:03] <aeon-ltd> you could just write a script that literally says "apt-get install itemone itemtwo itemthree" make it writable then run it with sudo
[04:04] <cyberfab007> I am gonna use LAMP ,
[04:04] <azizLIGHT> EriC`: so like make a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mynewprorgram.list ,,, right?
[04:04] <EriC`> yeah
[04:04] <cyberfab007> just wish it came with runby and python
[04:04] <azizLIGHT> and put the line in the file
[04:05] <azizLIGHT> whats a .save file in the sources.list.d
[04:05] <azizLIGHT> .list.save
[04:05] <andy__> http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/install-LAMP.html
[04:06] <andy__> sorry, accidently logged out of the chat room.
[04:06] <EriC`> andy__, is there a way i could block the video part of youtube?
[04:06] <cyberfab007> I am gonna install lamp on 14.10
[04:07] <EriC`> youtube-dl doesn't have a download xx minutes of the video option
[04:07] <andy__> If you have a vitual desktop setup, you can just have it play in the other one, that could solve your problem, if it is not a bandwith problem
[04:09] <EriC`> andy__, i didnt follow
[04:10] <andy__> Are you running ubuntu desktop or another desktop like xubuntu?
[04:10] <andy__> My desktop has a box in the top right hand corner that represents extra screens.
[04:10] <EriC`> andy__, i'm using a limited bandwidth internet connection right now, it's pretty slow and i need to preview youtube videos ( just the audio )
[04:10] <andy__> I am running xubuntu, so it will look a little bit different in ubuntu.
[04:11] <andy__> oh.
[04:11] <andy__> It is the bandwith problem then.
[04:11] <EriC`> i'll youtube-dl them later if i want to, but previewing is taking forever cause of the video
[04:12] <andy__> I have tried ytsearch: as a parameter to youtube-dl.  It can download several videos at once.  It can be told to download only audio.
[04:12] <EriC`> yeah there's the -x option
[04:12] <EriC`> the problem is that the files are 1hour+ long and i only want to preview first then download
[04:13] <EriC`> and you can't specify to download the first couple minutes or so afaict
[04:13] <andy__> You can set a file size limit.  Perhaps that would only include the first so many minutes?
[04:13] <andy__> ...
[04:13] <andy__> Perhaps
[04:13] <EriC`> i saw that but i think that's more of a only download if it's this big
[04:13] <EriC`> cause there's also a minimum size file limit
[04:14] <EriC`> i'll give it a shot but i dont think it's like that
[04:14] <EriC`> yeah it says don't download a video if it's larger than..
[04:15] <mneuro> I am on 14.04.2 and unable to install FGLRX.  I select it in the driver manager but it doesn't install.  It just goes back to the screen with the selections again
[04:15] <EriC`> it probably just won't download it
[04:15] <andy__> You are correct.
[04:15] <andy__> I forgot.
[04:16] <andy__> I switched to linux at first for the free software, but then I found youtube-dl.
[04:16] <mneuro> Does anyone know if there is a way to install fglrx catalyst in ubuntu 14.04.2
[04:16] <andy__> Most people who use Windows do the same thing through some sort of plug-in,
[04:17] <andy__> in Firefox or Chrome or another browser.
[04:18] <EriC`> mneuro, type sudo apt-get install fglrx in a terminal and see what's up
[04:19] <mneuro> EriC' it says unmet dependencies and xorg-video-abi-11 12 13 14 15
[04:19] <EriC`> andy__, there's youtube-mp3.org used to use it before youtube-dl
[04:20] <EriC`> mneuro, can you pastebin the output in paste.ubuntu.com
[04:21] <mneuro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10351147/ EriC'
[04:21] <andy__> I never tried that before.  I tried to get youtube-dl to work in Windows, but I couldn't, so I kept having to switch back to Linux.
[04:21] <EriC`> mneuro, type sudo apt-get install xorg-video-abi-11
[04:21] <EriC`> pastebin the output
[04:22] <ganeshp> Hi all, I am using Ubuntu 14.04.02 LTS AMD64 on my home desktop. This week I had received around 69 updates under category ubuntu base.  After these updates, while log in I get blank screen.  I use NVidia 304.125 drivers. Kindly help
[04:22] <mneuro> EriC' http://paste.ubuntu.com/10351153/
[04:23] <EriC`> mneuro, try sudo apt-get -f install
[04:24] <mneuro> nothing
[04:24] <mneuro> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[04:25] <andy__> I was thinking of writing a script to download one youtube video at a time, from a list, but I didn't get around to writing it.
[04:25] <john_rambo> Hi, While using 14.10 I was able to select vdpau in vlc but under 14.04 Idon't see that option ....Any ideas ?
[04:25] <andy__> The idea would be to download one file while watching another.
[04:26] <andy__> It seemed a little too advanced for my scripting skills.
[04:27] <EriC`> mneuro, hmm maybe try fglrx-updates ?
[04:27] <mneuro> tried both
[04:28] <andy__> But it would solve the audio only bandwith problem.  Most of the problem with youtube seems to be that it downloads a video multiple times before you see it, or are done with it.
[04:28] <mneuro> I feel like Catalyst just not working is a pretty big bug
[04:28] <mneuro> Looks like it's on the forums too
[04:29] <EriC`> andy__, for i in `cat /list/to/download`; do youtube-dl -x $i; done
[04:29] <EriC`> andy__, it should do them one after the other
[04:29] <justin_420> hi im losing ethernet connection when i try to install apps from the software center and update my wifi driver on 14.10
[04:30] <Bashing-om> ganeshp: Likely the update broke with that proprietary driver. RE-install the Nvidia driver .
[04:30] <justin_420> i cant though i lose ethernet connection
[04:30] <andy__> I had a feeling that you could solve that problem.  Could it be applied to the bandwith problem that you had earlier?
[04:31] <EriC`> andy__, i can't even watch one video without it buffering all the time
[04:31] <EriC`> usually my net connection is way faster and it never stalls or anything but i'm using a different one right now
[04:32] <EriC`> andy__, nope, it will still download the whole thing
[04:32] <ganeshp> @Bashing-om : I did that.  But after reinstall issue still comes back.
[04:33] <ganeshp> @Bashing-om : but if I run with default nouveau drivers system works fine except poor display
[04:33] <andy__> Here is my script that I have used...
[04:34] <andy__> youtube-dl -citw -f 18/17/22/5 $* &
[04:34] <andy__> read
[04:34] <andy__> mplayer -af scaletempo *.part
[04:34] <Flugz> mneuro: 'apt-cache showpkg xserver-xorg-core | grep abi'
[04:35] <mneuro> Flugz http://paste.ubuntu.com/10351288/
[04:35] <andy__> This will play the incomplete download, which is what I wanted a long time ago.
[04:35] <EriC`> andy__, that's awesome
[04:36] <Bashing-om> ganeshp: All I can think of is that the original Nvidia driver was not purged prior to RE-installing; what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say about the build of the Nvidia driver ?
[04:36] <Flugz> mneuro: 'dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core'
[04:36] <andy__> Does that solve your problem/
[04:36] <andy__> ?
[04:37] <mneuro> Flugz http://paste.ubuntu.com/10351300/
[04:37] <Flugz> mneuro: ok.. install that package, and try to install fglrx again
[04:38] <andy__> The read command asks for the user to press return, and then it plays the video, which has started downloading by the time the return key is pressed.
[04:38] <mneuro> if i install that package it is going to install a ton of xserver-xorg pacakges
[04:38] <EriC`> andy__, i just noticed something, i think youtube-dl downloads the file as a video+audio file, then just strips the audio out and deletes the video
[04:38] <mneuro> Flugz it is replacing my xserver packages with -utopic ones...
[04:39] <Flugz> yes, the xorg-video-abi-11 12 13 and so on are in that package, which fglrx depends on
[04:39] <mneuro> Why isn't this already installed in Ubuntu then?  Do they not expect people to install fglrx?
[04:39] <mneuro> I know it's not your fault that it's like that or anything
[04:39] <EriC`> andy__, i guess if i can check the incomplete download of youtube-mp3.org i could get what i wanted, previewing the file as audio only
[04:40] <EriC`> cause that service downloads and extracts the audio on their servers
[04:40] <Flugz> mneuro: i think they want people to use the open source radeon driver
[04:40] <mneuro> The open source radeon driver is pretty terrible if you are playing any game
[04:40] <EriC`> the question is how to play the incomplete download of firefox? ~/.cache/mozilla ? search for files with mp headers ? or it would be somewhere else?
[04:40] <mneuro> it even causes graphic artifacts when navigating the desktop
[04:41] <EriC`> *mp3
[04:41] <andy__> EriC`, perhaps, that would be a solution for now
[04:41] <justin_420> anyone know what my problem could be?
[04:42] <ganeshp>  @Bashing-om: Here is the paste of /var/log/Xorg.0.log file  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10351318/   .  I could not locate the nvidia version here.  But in Nvidia settings panel I found the version as 304.125
[04:42] <EriC`> andy__, it could probably be scripted to enter a url, download it with curl/wget and do a find -exec file | grep mp3 header and play it
[04:42] <andy__> especially, if you don't mind dealing with curl...
[04:42] <andy__> that is what I was thinking exactly.
[04:43] <andy__> EriC`, You have more scripting proficiency than me.  I have had trouble using curl, but I thought you could do it fine.
[04:44] <mneuro> Flugz well thanks for the help.  That seems to have allowed me to install the fglrx driver
[04:44] <Bashing-om> ganeshp: If you have the nouveau (open source) driver installed, there will be no Nvidia build. Have you now re-Installed Nvidia,. Before I look .
[04:44] <vvinit> hiii
[04:44] <Flugz> mneuro: np, hope it works out ok :-)
[04:44] <NEI4U2K> hi, i am having trouble trying to install fglrx.
[04:45] <vvinit> any one is thare who can help me to hack facebook account
[04:46] <ganeshp> @Bashing-om: Yes, thats right.  After system updates, I did not find a way to login to the computer. So I had restored my old working version of the OS.  So the version of xorg is with nvidia proprietary driver.
[04:46] <Bashing-om> NEI4U2K: What ATI card are we talking about ? 2X/3X/4X series are no longer supported by ATI .
[04:46] <Bashing-om> ganeshp: Good, I be look'n .. I be back .
[04:47] <ganeshp> @Bashing-om: I am sorry, I found the nvidia version in line number 90.  it is 304.125
[04:47] <NEI4U2K> it says, amd hd radeon 7570m.  hybrid with intel graphics.
[04:47] <ganeshp> @Bashing-om: thanks a ton
[04:48] <NEI4U2K> i just recovered from booting into terminal after installing fglrx and removing it.
[04:48] <NEI4U2K> now i am reading this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930450&page=88
[04:48] <NEI4U2K> and it's talking about fresh install. there must be some other way. yes?
[04:49] <EriC`> andy__, it looks like it saves them in ~/Downloads/*.part which is great
[04:50] <andy__> EriC`, try typing youtube-dl -F along with a sample url or ytsearch, to see what formats are available.  There are several audio formats, like webm, m4a, etc.
[04:50] <andy__> EriC`, It looks like you found another solution, though.
[04:50] <EriC`> andy__, you're my hero dude
[04:51] <EriC`> i'll use youtube-mp3.org to download the audio only, and play the *.part files to preview
[04:51] <andy__> EriC`, you found the solution yourself.  Thanks though.
[04:51] <EriC`> you're idea of using the *.part was key
[04:51] <EriC`> *your
[04:52] <EriC`> thanks :)
[04:54] <andy__> Thanks.  I just remember playing the videos when they were partially downloaded, just the way that they appeared in the directory.
[04:54] <andy__> Or perhaps that was given by the output from youtube-dl.
[04:55] <andy__> Eric, Linux is great, because there are many different ways to solve a single problem.
[04:57] <erchamion> I just installed Ubuntu 14.04, and Ubuntu says it experienced an internal error
[04:58] <Bashing-om> ganeshp: Yeah, the Nvidia driver built "(II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  304.125  Mon Dec  1 20:00:30 PST 2014 " and is in use; This I am not certain about what it entails " 17.387] (WW) NVIDIA(0): Unable to support custom viewPortOut 1360 x 765 +0 +1  " ???
[04:58] <erchamion> Is that serious?  an internal error?
[05:00] <ganeshp> @Bashing-om: My screen resolution is 1360x768.  So the custom viewportout 1360x765 is something I am not using.  This setting is valid for the past 6 years I have been using various flavors of linux I was using on this machine.  not sure if we can ignore this message in the file.
[05:00] <EriC`> andy__, yes and you can do lots of stuff with it
[05:04] <EriC`> andy__, i think i see a --skip-download option in youtube-dl it says it skips the video download
[05:04] <EriC`> i want to give it a shot, but i can't get the youtube-dl to work, hehe
[05:05] <EriC`> it's youtube-dl -x http://www.youtube.com/etc.....
[05:05] <EriC`> ?
[05:07] <Bashing-om> ganeshp: I am at the end of my skill set. Sorry, I do not know what else to check .
[05:07] <EriC`> i'll try another video, it says encrypted signatures detected
[05:08] <ganeshp> @Bashing-om: I sincerely thank  you for your time and attention.  I will keep searching for the resolution.  Hopefully will find it soon....
[05:10] <Bashing-om> ganeshp: let me look on the Nvidia site, see what driver they reoemmend. just a maybe we can use a later version than 304 ?
[05:10] <EriC`> andy__, nevermind, actually i just noticed that youtube-dl doesn't download the whole thing first, it seems to download just the audio, so i guess it's the same as using youtube-mp3.org
[05:11] <ganeshp> @Bashing-om: I tried that option.  Looks like 304 series is the last series of drivers offered to to my graphics card. Now it is moved to legacy category now :(
[05:11] <andy__> I am glad you found that out.
[05:12] <andy__> EriC`, I tried to test it to show that it was just downloading audio, but it would be impossible to test what was happening on your computer.
[05:13] <andy__> EriC`, Sorry I was away from my computer for a bit.  I wanted to get some popcorn.
[05:15] <EriC`> andy__, well it says it's downloading xx mb of xxx mb at xx kb/sec, i checked system monitor and it's only slightly higher so i guess it's only downloading the audio part as it indicates
[05:16] <andy__> EriC`, great
[05:17] <EriC`> andy__, youtube-dl is pretty solid
[05:17] <Bashing-om> ganeshp: "The 340.xx driver supports the following set of GPUs. >> GeForce 7100 / nForce 630i ; per :http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html .
[05:18] <andy__> EriC`, Did you find which format parameter to use, to just download it as a good audio file?
[05:18] <EriC`> andy__, i didn't try that yet, i'm waiting for this download to finish to see what format it saves as
[05:18] <EriC`> i just used -x <youtube link>
[05:19] <EriC`> i'm going to try another smaller one right now
[05:19] <talaverameza_> Hello, someone use a Lightdm with webkit-greeter ?
[05:20] <Bashing-om> ganeshp: Ya might do better here : https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/nvidia .
[05:20] <andy__> EriC`, That is a post-processing parameter.  You might be downloading the whole file, but not be slowed down too much.
[05:21] <ganeshp> @Bashing-om: GeForce 7100 / nForce 630i is appearing in the section "The 304.xx driver supports the following set of GPUs:" in the url given. So I believe 304 series is the last series for my gpu
[05:22] <andy__> The -f option tells youtube which format to send the video in.  It is like selecting the video quality from the gear symbol
[05:22] <andy__> that is, the gear symbol on the website.
[05:22] <cyberfab007> what are some reasons why my command line would be running slow after installing ubuntu 14.10 on a vps
[05:24] <Bashing-om> ganeshp: Sorry, you are correct .. 304 ... sheeshh .. I am tireder than I had thought ..
[05:25] <ganeshp> @Bashing-om:  :) I found one post in ubuntu forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2209844.  Will try it now.  If I fail I will end up in restoring the old OS image.
[05:26] <Bashing-om> ganeshp: look'n at ubuntuforums link too .
[05:33] <EriC`> andy__, it downloads them as .m4a
[05:34] <EriC`> it converted it to mp3 when i tried to download as mp3
[05:34] <andy__> EriC`, I saw that .m4a and webm were the two main format options when I tested it using the -F parameter.
[05:34] <alvarokilakskoak> test
[05:35] <alvarokilakskoak> hi
[05:36] <Cybuss> anyone here experienced at creating a bios grub boot partition?
[05:37] <andy__> EriC`,  probably using -f 140/141/bestaudio and then converting it with --audio-format "mp3" would save your bandwith and get the file to be saved in a convenient form
[05:38] <EriC`> ok, cool
[05:42] <EriC`> andy__, one problem i'm facing is that mplayer loads the file into memory and then it ends it at what it was when it was loaded into memory
[05:43] <EriC`> andy__, like if it's at 10% and i play it, even if it reaches 20% by the time i get to 10% it ends it
[05:43] <EriC`> if i can pass the start arguments to mplayer i can probably get where it thought it ended at first and have it replay it starting from there
[05:44] <andy__> I am not sure why it is doing that.
[05:44] <andy__> Perhaps somebody else would know more about the problem.  It has never done that to me before.
[05:47] <andy__> I used to download higher definition videos, and would start it when the video was only 1% downloaded.  When the video would reach the end of what has been downloaded, it would stop and I would have to rerun my script that would play all *.part files.
[05:48] <andy__> EriC`, Other than that, I did not see any troubles with downloading partial files.
[05:50] <andy__> EriC`, I think I should log off of the chat room for now.  I hope I have been of some help to you.
[05:51] <EriC`> andy__, ok, thanks again for the help
[05:51] <andy__> EriC`, bye
[05:51] <andy__> bye all
[05:51] <EriC`> bye
[05:54] <harzi_> hello compadres
[05:55] <Pringles101> Hello ubuntu commuinty :)
[05:56] <Pringles101> Can anyone tell me how to make a TCP or HTTP Server. in Ubuntu
[05:56] <FireWater> How would I install ffmpeg on ubuntu 14.10
[05:57] <Pringles101> what is ffmpeg
[06:08] <RustyShackleford> __CM__: still here
[06:08] <RustyShackleford> disabling acceleration didn't work :(
[06:08] <RustyShackleford> keyboard input still breaks eventually
[06:13] <husain> cek
[06:20] <Eremox> Why do I get an error saying "grep failed /dev/SDA/"? I acnt seem to manage to install Ubuntu... FYI I got windows 8 and wasn't dual booting
[06:25] <Score_Under> I'm trying to install ubuntu (or rather, some subset of ubuntu) in a chroot for the purpose of testing some scripts, but I also want to install xvfb. It looks like it needs an init system, x11-common is giving the error "/var/lib/dpkg/info/x11-common.postinst: 722: /var/lib/dpkg/info/x11-common.postinst: update-rc.d: not found" and preventing xvfb from being installed. Do I need to install an init
[06:25] <Score_Under> system (and what packages are available for that) or is there a cheap way around?
[06:35] <husain> cek
[06:35] <Carmarenton> Hi guys, anyone online who can help with problems to do with a daemon?
[06:35] <EriC`> bye
[06:36] <EriC`> oops
[06:37] <Score_Under> "/var/lib/dpkg/info/fuse.postinst: 11: /var/lib/dpkg/info/fuse.postinst: addgroup: not found" shouldn't these be dependencies of the package, or is there a certain base system assumed to be installed by most packages greater than what's provided by this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[06:38] <Score_Under> oh I think I know what's going on here, chrooting hasn't changed my path so I don't have any sbin stuff.
[06:39] <Score_Under> I've been spoiled by my current distro, sbin symlinked to bin!
[07:03] <x90> c
[07:03] <Sergio965> d
[07:08] <t0t4ln00b> anybody wanna lend a helping hand to a noobsaurusrex like myself?
[07:08] <vlt> !anyone | t0t4ln00b
[07:10] <kilo_> hi
[07:10] <t0t4ln00b> yo
[07:11] <kilo_> 你好
[07:11] <t0t4ln00b> anybody around?
[07:12] <kilo_> 没人聊天啊
[07:13] <aeon-ltd> t0t4ln00b: yeah, got a question?
[07:19] <wahben> Anyone knows a "get started" guide for developing a "hello world" app for Ubuntu Phone, from a new Ubuntu install to running the app in a emulator?
[07:19] <RustyShackleford> wahben: sorry I can't help, just wondering if you have the ubuntu phone
[07:20] <wahben> No I don't have the Ubuntu phone.
[07:20] <t0t4ln00b> insserv: warning: script 'irda-setup' missing LSB tags and overrides
[07:20] <t0t4ln00b> insserv: There is a loop between service minidlna and irda-setup if stopped
[07:20] <t0t4ln00b> I'm lost and clueless at the moment
[07:21] <wahben> I've been trying to get Ubuntu-sdk working with the emulator but it's not working very well...
[07:25] <RustyShackleford> wahben: just wondering. I can't believe these are actually coming out
[07:26] <RustyShackleford> i haven't been following, have they hit the market yet?
[07:28] <shortstraw8> Just wondering if there is a fast way to move say 10 sub directories in to another directory instead of moving each one separate or &&
[07:29] <wahben> I don't think any has "hit the market", but there were supposed to be some flash sales of some devices in select markets.
[07:29] <wahben> I'm the only one I know who's excited about this hehe
[07:38] <FireWater> Can I install multipal files with apt-get
[07:39] <skweek> comma?
[07:39] <skweek> &?
[07:39] <skweek> yea actually just use a space...
[07:40] <skweek> sudo apt-get lib application-dev package
[07:40] <skweek> like that
[07:40] <skweek> eerrr you should include install too!
[07:43] <FireWater> I probably fed myself up by accidentally removing /usr/bin
[07:43] <skweek> oh?
[07:43] <ObrienDave> not a good thing :)
[07:44] <FireWater> Is there any way to recover from this?
[07:45] <FireWater> other then re installing
[07:45] <ObrienDave> re-install what you're missing?
[07:45] <ObrienDave> might check the trash folder
[07:45] <FireWater> I can't use sudo
[07:45] <ObrienDave> why not?
[07:45] <FireWater> And i can't open the trash
[07:46] <Score_Under> apt-get and dpkg are in /usr/bin
[07:46] <FireWater> '/usr/bin/sudo: No such file or directory"
[07:47] <FireWater> What's the location of the trash
[07:47] <aeon-ltd> FireWater: .trash somewhere?
[07:49] <FireWater> What I want to do is ls trash to see if /usr/bin is in there
[07:50] <FireWater> Found it and it's not in there
[07:51] <FireWater> So how would I install an app if apt-get doesn't work
[07:51] <FireWater> I am thinking I may need to reinstall my OS
[07:52] <malimbar> FireWater, what app?
[07:52] <malimbar> and why would you need to reinstall your os?
[07:52] <charbz> try ~/.local/share/Trash/
[07:52] <FireWater> malimbar: every app that was removed with /usr/bin
[07:53]  * ObrienDave is biting tongue
[07:53] <FireWater> malimbar: I accadentally removed /usr/bin
[07:53] <sauraedron> hi need help with kernel module programming.. can anyone help me ?
[07:55] <NikolaiToryzin> sauraedron: You'd want to try the Linux kernel mailing list.
[07:57] <srid> does anyone here run Ubuntu -- their primary OS -- as a VM on a capable macbook?
[07:57] <sauraedron> NikolaiToryzin, ah ok :) thanks
[08:06] <ObrienDave> srid, why use a VM to do that?
[08:08] <ObrienDave> srid, why would you want to use Ubuntu, or any OS as primary, in a VM?
[08:09] <rateder> ObrienDave: May be that's the only way he can run it with the apps he wants
[08:10] <ObrienDave> makes no sense at all
[08:11] <ObrienDave> i run Xubuntu and Win7 in dual boot
[08:11] <rateder> ObrienDave: listen here. OSX will only run in VM on mist machines.
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> i agree with ObrienDave, ubuntu can run as primary on a mac
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> why run it vm
[08:12] <rateder> You get a free upgrade to Windows 10
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> rateder: lets not discuss windows here
[08:13] <Lord_Eris> Hi
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> Lord_Eris: welcome
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> !mac | srid
[08:14] <Lord_Eris> someone compiled kernel with some special clang?
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | Lord_Eris
[08:14] <aeon-ltd> what's a mist machine?
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:15] <aeon-ltd> rateder: what's a mist machine?
[08:16]  * lotuspsychje looks up to the sky
[08:16] <Blaster> Hi I have a 3 monitor setup running on Intel graphics, and suddenly today (might have been after an update), the 3rd monitor stopped showing output.  What do I do!?
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: maybe xrandr can help you?
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | Blaster
[08:17] <Blaster> I need to get to work :(  Can't I just clap my hands and fix it?
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: well never had 3 screens myself, but you could try xrandr --auto maybe
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> nevermind found it
[08:18] <Blaster> Here's the output from xrandr by the way, not sure if that will help diagnose the issue... http://pastebin.com/gVBZ6JFh
[08:18] <Blaster> xrandr --auto didn't seem to do anything.
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: when did it stopped working?
[08:18] <Blaster> Earlier today.
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: did anything special? update?reboot?
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> HDMI3 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[08:19] <Blaster> Might have done an update this morning.  Can't clearly remember though.  It was working, and then I went out, and wen I returned home it was broken.
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: you also doublechecked if hdmi cable still connected good right
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: maybe look in dpkg logs if grafix drivers updated perhaps?
[08:20] <Blaster> Well I have a feeling it's not the cables, because originally it was my rightmost screen that wasn't working, then after a reboot it's my leftmost screen.
[08:21] <aeon-ltd> Blaster: did you update anything controlling the graphics recently?
[08:21] <Blaster> Only if the auto-updater did, but I didn't update anything specifically.
[08:22] <aeon-ltd> if can check for sure, you can try rolling back a version
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: /var/log/dpkg.log
[08:23] <Blaster> Hmm in /var/log/dpkg.log the last line is tagged 2015-02-19.
[08:23] <srid> ObrienDave: because I thought installing as dual boot OS to macbook could be complicated with unexpected issues.
[08:23] <srid> maybe I can get used to ubuntu on a VM before doing the full switch.
[08:24] <srid> either way, I want Ubuntu as the primary OS (especially as I'm getting to use Emacs for non-editing tasks too (todo, email, IM, irc, etc..)
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> srid: there's nothing smoother then installing the Os phisycaly
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> srid: you can do all those things with ubuntu you want
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | srid
[08:25] <aeon-ltd> well....... actually having to manage drivers for physical components can be less than smooth
[08:42] <grek> hi i try write bash script http://wklej.to/rSgu1 where i make error
[08:42] <solsTiCe> hi. I wanted to make a change to /etc/default/grub. and then I noticed I have no such file here; all I have is a file called /etc/default/grub.ucf-dist. Why is it called like that ?
[08:43] <nodedfree> what is wrong?? >> read line;if [[ $line == 'aa' ]]; then find . -type d -exec echo 1 \;fi
[08:43] <nodedfree> i get: find: paths must precede expression: echo
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> !grub | solsTiCe
[08:44] <EriC`> solsTiCe, what's in the file? a normal ../default/grub ?
[08:44] <EriC`> btw thanks for the win+x tip yesterday, worked like a charm :)
[08:45] <solsTiCe> EriC`: yes. It seems to be a file created by ucf script. it is a backup of my old /etc/default/grub from what I understand
[08:45] <solsTiCe> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/ucf.1.html
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> nodedfree: maybe the ##programming guys can figure this out?
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> solsTiCe: As far as possible, ucf attempts
[08:48] <lotuspsychje>        to  preserve  the  ownership  and  permission  of the New file as it is
[08:48] <lotuspsychje>        copied to the new location.
[08:49] <solsTiCe> I messed up with grub package the other day. that's why
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> solsTiCe: why did you install ucf?
[08:49] <solsTiCe> lotuspsychje: I did not. I think it was installed by default
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> !info ucf
[08:50] <solsTiCe> I don't remember why but I installed the 32 bit version of grub to mess with file. and purge it to reintall the normal efi-grub
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> solsTiCe: can you pasteubuntu this grub file for us, im curious what it looks like
[08:53] <solsTiCe> lotuspsychje: it's just the normal file
[08:54] <solsTiCe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10353701/
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> solsTiCe: wich ubuntu are you on exactly?
[08:56] <solsTiCe> 14.10
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> !info grub-pc
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> found a bug that sounds similar
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1090768
[09:03] <stangeland> so h265 is not available on ubuntu14.04....is this also a problem? gstreamer|1.0|totem|video/x-gst-fourcc-hvc1 decoder|decoder-video/x-gst-fourcc-hvc1 (video/x-gst-fourcc-hvc1 decoder)
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> stangeland: did you instal ubuntu-restricted-extras mate?
[09:05] <stangeland> lotuspsychje, yeah ofc
[09:06] <solsTiCe> stangeland: i think you need a ppa for hevc
[09:06] <stangeland> solsTiCe, which one?
[09:07] <solsTiCe> http://askubuntu.com/questions/362745/how-to-install-h-265-hevc-codec-on-ubuntu-linux
[09:07] <solsTiCe> don't know if it works
[09:08] <stangeland> solsTiCe, yay, sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-libde265 worked
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> !yay
[09:08] <stangeland> !yay
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> solsTiCe: maybe try that dpkg reconfigure trick from the bug?
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> solsTiCe: or the 'fix broken packages' from grub recoverymode
[09:14] <bigupmusic> good morning!
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> bigupmusic: welcome mate
[09:15] <bigupmusic> coffee time ;)
[09:15] <guneet> can anyone help me resolve the ia32-libs dependencies on ubuntu 12.04 64bit?
[09:16] <dinosaur> guneet: I have recently done something like that. A lot of removing and installing. But in the end I succedeed. But it wasn't ia32-libs, but something else.
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> guneet: maybe apt clean and apt-get update can help
[09:17] <dinosaur> guneet: although the fact is, reinstalling the system it would have been faster
[09:17] <guneet> yeah. isn't multiarch supposed to take care of these issues
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | guneet this can also do magic
[09:18] <guneet> ia32-libs asks for ia32-libs-multiarch which asks for gtk2-engine-murrine:i386
[09:19] <guneet> an attempt to install that asks to remove elementary desktop among other things. I am using elementary os
[09:19] <dinosaur> I've spoiled fonts in the server terminal. I know it because when I run dpkg-reconfigure console-setup, I see that there are some ugly fonts, not line on the borders of the windows. How can I get it back to the original state? Alternatively, something else what could help will be appreciated, too.
[09:20] <dinosaur> well, I've a kind of solved this problem. Choosing UTF-8 has helped. But not sure if this is what really should be there.
[09:21] <aLeSD> hi all
[09:21] <aLeSD> is there a channel for people that want to port ubuntu touch to a new device ?
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> !touch | aLeSD
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> !snappy | aLeSD there's also this
[09:22] <6A4ABLJJ1> !ubuntu6
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> 6A4ABLJJ1: what can we do for you?
[09:23] <6A4ABLJJ1> The torrent was taken down shortly after the download began
[09:23] <6A4ABLJJ1> Where can ubuntu 6 be found?
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> 6A4ABLJJ1: ubuntu 6?
[09:24] <dinosaur> 6A4ABLJJ1: what exactly do you mean?
[09:24] <6A4ABLJJ1> Is it dapper?
[09:24] <dinosaur> 6A4ABLJJ1: it must be a very old version
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> !eol | 6A4ABLJJ1
[09:25] <6A4ABLJJ1> Why do you stop the torrent after it was started?
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> 6A4ABLJJ1: we reccomend you installing an ubuntu version of the topic
[09:27] <6A4ABLJJ1> lotuspsychje: Ok with 6 or 7 also.
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> 6A4ABLJJ1: no, forget ubuntu 6 its old and unsecure
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> 6A4ABLJJ1: try ubuntu 14.04
[09:28] <dinosaur> !pl
[09:28] <6A4ABLJJ1> lotuspsychje: behind 14 it is secure as 14
[09:28] <dinosaur> !pl
[09:28] <dinosaur> !polish
[09:28] <dinosaur> I need to contact the Polish channel. What's his name?
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> 6A4ABLJJ1: check the topic for supported channels
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> dinosaur: #ubuntu-pl
[09:29] <mun> hi
[09:30] <mun> does anyone know how to make a shell script that only does ping -c 1 myserver exit with 0 if the packet is lost?
[09:30] <6A4ABLJJ1> channel is not supported?
[09:30] <6A4ABLJJ1> en polska
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> mun: maybe the ##networking guys know a script?
[09:31] <ioria> guneet, have you seen this - https://elementaryos.org/answers/how-to-install-ia32-libs
[09:31] <drager> I installed Ubuntu 14.10 a few weeks ago with encryption active on the whole disk and my home folder. It worked fine during the installation but when I turn on my computer and tries to enter the passphrase in the input nothing inserts into the box so I reboot my computer and the UI changes (unstyled) and then I can type in my passpharse and that works. So every time I do need to reboot my computer for it to work… When I boot it says GNU GRUB version 2
[09:31] <solsTiCe> mun: ping -c 1 server|| true
[09:31] <drager> I get a question about report every time I login as well
[09:31] <6A4ABLJJ1> he he he
[09:31] <6A4ABLJJ1> look its tice
[09:31] <6A4ABLJJ1> so you are a sun server
[09:32] <guneet> @ioria thanks!
[09:32] <mun> solsTiCe: hmm wouldn't it exit with 1 rather than 0 if the ping fails?
[09:32] <6A4ABLJJ1> X is the infinite software that runs you
[09:33] <6A4ABLJJ1> I'm feeling fragile.
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> 6A4ABLJJ1: keep it ontopic plz
[09:33] <__john_doe__> hey guys, how can I disable Xscreensaver security features?
[09:34] <Lord_Eris> there comes a time
[09:34] <aLeSD> is ubuntu core the future of ubunut ?
[09:35] <6A4ABLJJ1> I need to...
[09:35] <Lord_Eris> john doe you need to bitshift the bonnie registers in function clyde
[09:35] <aLeSD> I mean no more official releases ? Only incremental updates ?
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> aLeSD: ask this in #snappy
[09:36] <__john_doe__> Lord_Eris: hum?
[09:36] <Lord_Eris> nevermind
[09:39] <dinosaur> what kind of terminal emulator is used by default in Kubuntu? You can probably check it running x-terminal-emulator
[09:39] <daemon_erebus> Is there a quick and easy way to change the mate menu application icon so that it changes with whatever the current icon set/theme you are using?
[09:40] <daemon_erebus> dinosaur, konsole is the default terminal emulator in KDE/Kubuntu
[09:41] <dinosaur> daemon_erebus: thank you
[09:45] <dkjjswo_1> Hi rww
[09:45] <dkjjswo_1> tesserect with leptonica doesn't do what I expected.
[09:45] <dkjjswo_1> It looks like it adds some substitutions.
[09:48] <pippi> .
[09:50] <dinosaur> Can I remove crucial packages, like coreutils, using apt-get?
[09:51] <dkjjswo_1> Is it possible to record streams using Sound Recorder?
[09:52] <dkjjswo_1> tice
[09:52] <dkjjswo_1> talk to me
[09:52] <dkjjswo_1> Long time no see
[09:55] <dkjjswo_1> no source code for old-releases?
[09:56] <grek> please help http://wklej.to/0o2hE
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> !info streamripper | dkjjswo_1
[10:03] <daemon_erebus> dinosaur, sudo apt-get remove <package_name>
[10:04] <daemon_erebus> dinosaur, though I'd be a bit cautious about what you're removing
[10:04] <dinosaur> daemon_erebus: you got me wrong. I know how to remove packages from the system. I'm asking if it will allow me to remove something what is absolutely crucial for the system, because I want to remove almost everything.
[10:05] <dinosaur> daemon_erebus: so far, it has prevented me from removing coreutils, but I'm not sure if it'll always be the case
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> !info coreutils
[10:08] <keepthelightonba> Hello
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> keepthelightonba: welcome
[10:09] <keepthelightonba> Has anyone tried running office on Ubuntu with wine or any other way
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | keepthelightonba
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> keepthelightonba: there are also microsoft office web apps for ubuntu, you can install
[10:12] <keepthelightonba> lotuspsychje: Do you know where I can find the office web apps for linux
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> keepthelightonba: let me find you the link holdon
[10:12] <keepthelightonba> lotuspsychje" thanks
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> keepthelightonba: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/07/run-microsoft-office-web-apps-ubuntu-desktop
[10:15] <keepthelightonba> lotuspsychje: cheers will check it out
[10:24] <TheBigDeal> can i specify a directory in some partition for applications?
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> TheBigDeal: whats your end goal with this exactly?
[10:25] <stangeland> a heads up...i think there might be some bug in the h265 decoder... i installed this: sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-libde265 and played a video encoded with h265, which crashed every 4-5 minutes and had insane memory consumption
[10:25] <TheBigDeal> lotuspsychje: space management
[10:25] <TheBigDeal> lotuspsychje: disk space i mean
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | TheBigDeal
[10:26] <EriC`> TheBigDeal, locally installed apps ( not from the package manager ) are installed in /usr/local usually
[10:26] <EriC`> there's also /opt if you want
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> TheBigDeal: i think its reccomended to keep ubuntu's file structure as it is, you can move the /home if you want
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> !home | TheBigDeal
[10:27] <TheBigDeal> lotuspsychje: okay, got you, i'll resize the / partition
[10:28] <blackflow> Hello. I've configured my wired connection in network manager to use <IP_ADDRESS> for DNS (I'm running Bind), and to use DHCP for address only. Restarted network manager, it shows restarted connection, but /etc/resolv.conf did not update.
[10:28] <PeterMetz> Hi! AWS, Ubuntu 12.04 user here. I have a NodeJS process as a daemon, started via an init.d script, it's a web application with a connection to MySQL. The process's PID occasionally changes just out of the blue and then there are all sorts of other things happening, but what I wanted to know is if it's normal to have a PID of a daemon process to be changed without my interaction? Any help very much appreciated guys, thanks in advance!
[10:29] <bekks> PeterMetz: A changing PID indicates a restart of the process.
[10:29] <sailendra> Hello there Greetings!!!
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> sailendra: welcome
[10:29] <Arxanez> Hey guys one question , trying to do a dual boot, and when i come to install ubuntu it displays my Disc as its completly empty its not showing the windows partition which is already created
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | Arxanez
[10:30] <TheHackOps> TheBigDeal, I think i found the solution to the issue i was having last night
[10:30] <EriC`> Arxanez, you probably have stray gpt data, was it a win8 and you converted to win7?
[10:30] <PeterMetz> bekks: Thanks, that was my worst fear! :F That there is some crashing going on, suppressed.
[10:30] <TheHackOps> How do i set my fstab to mount my partition as exec
[10:30] <TheHackOps> i have it open in vim
[10:30] <TheBigDeal> TheHackOps: Great :D
[10:31] <Arxanez> EriC' i had W7 and Ubuntu dual boot already then i formated and put on Windows 10 and now not sure why is displaying all blank disc
[10:31] <sailendra> i am new linux ssh things..so i wouild like to ask how to restrict access to server using ssh if new client tries to connect using ssh
[10:32] <bekks> PeterMetz: A changing PID doesnt not necessarily mean something "crashing".
[10:32] <EriC`> Arxanez, type sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[10:33] <PeterMetz> bekks: Oh, okay. So can it be a totally normal part of the process life-cycle than? Or you just meant that it could've ran out of memory and got restarted (which is still a problem but not a crash, kinda)?
[10:35] <TheHackOps> TheBigDeal, Could you give me an example of an fstab line for UUID=d6a6a198-8cd7-414a-a875-8df021e443f3 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[10:35] <TheHackOps> To set it to allow exec
[10:35] <PeterMetz> bekks: Do you know what should I search for to get some insight into how to debug what's wrong? I know it can be a lot of things so if you could just help me out with some keywords to start my thought process (which is stuck at the moment).
[10:35] <TheBigDeal> TheHackOps: I have no idea, But make sure about your guy of last night :P
[10:36] <TheHackOps> 0.0
[10:37] <TheBigDeal> TheHackOps: sorry for that, But i have no idea.
[10:38] <blackflow> TheHackOps: what's the problem, again?
[10:39] <genkgo> I have a problem with our Ubuntu 14.04 server. It's kernel 3.16. The IO performance is really bad. When I am transferring files or import data into mysql: kworker and jdb2 are eating all my IO. Googling learns that multiple people have had this problem. Bu the threads I read did not include a solution for me. I installed iotop to monitor IO.
[10:40] <blackflow> genkgo: reconfigure MySQL not to fsync so often
[10:40] <genkgo> blackflow: but when I running rsync the same problem occurs
[10:40] <blackflow> there was a setting, I forgot which one, check the manual
[10:40] <genkgo> then rsync is not eating the IO: its kworker and jdb2
[10:41] <blackflow> genkgo: and what do iotop and iostat show? do you max out on iops available for the hdd?
[10:41] <genkgo> and I mean: the mysql file is between 0 - 10 MB: it takes multiple minutes to import.
[10:41] <blackflow> could be a faulty drive and the filesystem is retrying a lot
[10:41] <blackflow> checked smart?
[10:42] <genkgo> nope, where can I read about that? :)
[10:42] <bekks> PeterMetz: I'd take a look into the logs in /var/log/ and maybe enable logging for node.js
[10:42] <Arxanez> EriC' cant pass thrue second command it just blinking and it does nothing.
[10:42] <jirido> Hi there! now comes one i think you gona find easy.. What is the command for looking at where a package has installed its files and configs?
[10:42] <blackflow> genkgo: package smartmontools and read up on disk S.M.A.R.T
[10:42] <bekks> genkgo: Take a look at dmesg - can you pastebin that please?
[10:42] <genkgo> bekks: I will.
[10:43] <jirido> I cme a litle unsuitable in the midle between so i ask again
[10:43] <jirido>  What is the command for looking at where a package has installed its files and configs?
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> jirido  which and whereis
[10:44] <blackflow> jirido: check the -L option for dpkg-query
[10:44] <jirido> OK! thanx guys!
[10:45] <Ubuntu14dl> What is the point of the dvorak learning tool?
[10:45] <genkgo> bekks: I will execute the following (create a random 1 GB file)  and then paste dmesg. openssl rand -out sample.txt -base64 $(( 2**30 * 3/4 ))
[10:45] <TheHackOps> Hmm this is so weird
[10:45] <Ubuntu14dl> It doesnt do anything but display a picture od the dvorak map.
[10:45] <TheHackOps> I still cant execute anything i have downloaded except from apt
[10:45] <TheHackOps> No .run files will execute
[10:45] <TheHackOps> of scripts
[10:45] <TheHackOps> on 14.04
[10:46] <TheHackOps> blackflow,
[10:46] <blackflow> TheHackOps: and you have the permissions to execute those?
[10:46] <bekks> genkgo: No. Execute: "dmesg" and pastebin it.
[10:46] <TheHackOps> blackflow, yes
[10:46] <TheHackOps> blackflow, I run ls -l
[10:46] <TheHackOps> and the file im trying to run has +x
[10:47] <PeterMetz> bekks: Awesome I can get going with that! Thanks a lot and have a nice day (or good night)!
[10:48] <TheHackOps> I might just nuke this install and go over to Mint if i cant get this to work
[10:48] <Ubuntu14dl> Sometimes dvorak feels more natural than us.
[10:49] <blackflow> TheHackOps: well, if you have +x permissions for your user, and no MAC in place (eg. apparmor blocking) for that path, then the files are not executable.
[10:49] <TheHackOps> blackflow, THis is a fresh install last night'
[10:49] <blackflow> TheHackOps: the question is also, how are you trying to execute those files
[10:49] <TheHackOps> blackflow, Both the way i normally do and through the terminal ./app.run
[10:50] <TheHackOps> When i say normally
[10:50] <TheHackOps> i mean double click and run
[10:50] <blackflow> assuming you know what you're doing with running randomly downloaded files (!), what error message you get whern you run ./app.run through the terminal?
[10:50] <TheHackOps> When i try to run it from terminal i get bash: ./qt-opensource-linux-x86-android-5.4.0.run: No such file or directory
[10:51] <blackflow> TheHackOps: can you pastebin ls -la of the dir where you're running that, and where that file should be?
[10:51] <dreamon_> where can I find out, which graphic driver is used ? bumblebee, nvidia or nouveau
[10:51] <blackflow> dreamon_: lsmod I'd guess
[10:51] <bekks> dreamon_: lspci -k
[10:52] <TheHackOps> blackflow, sure, I also should note that auto complete in the terminal works
[10:52] <TheHackOps> dunno why
[10:52] <donhi> hello
[10:52] <bekks> and bumblebee isnt a graphics driver, but a facility to choose between graphics drivers.
[10:52] <blackflow> TheHackOps: wild guess, that run file is a shell script and its shebang points to an unexisting binary
[10:53] <TheHackOps> blackflow, I thought that as well but i tried installing all my different IDES some are .sh scripts and some are .run files
[10:53] <TheHackOps> and none of them work
[10:53] <TheHackOps> http://pastebin.com/9y6zh3mN
[10:53] <blackflow> TheHackOps: what does head -c 10 for one of those files say? Careful, if it's a binary you might get garbage out. Check with 'file' what is it first.
[10:53] <Ben64> are you on blackbox?
[10:53] <genkgo> bekks: http://pastebin.com/qgaw9H8q
[10:54] <TheHackOps> Ben64, Yes
[10:54] <Ben64> TheHackOps: blackbox isn't supported in this channel
[10:54] <TheHackOps> Wait what do you mean
[10:54] <blackflow> TheHackOps: btw, you don't have full permissions on that file, you need +r too.
[10:54] <Ben64> it isn't ubuntu
[10:54] <TheHackOps> This is a Vanilla install of Ubuntu 14.04
[10:54] <TheHackOps> oh
[10:55] <TheHackOps> No i thought you meant am i on the pc named blackbox
[10:55] <TheHackOps> My bad
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> TheHackOps  it's either blackbox or ubuntu
[10:55] <Ubuntu14dl> THe dvorak keys are located so that all of the vowels are sequential.
[10:55] <Ubuntu14dl> vowels are important yano
[10:55] <TheHackOps> MonkeyDust, This is a clean install of ubuntu from the ubuntu website
[10:56] <dreamon_> blackflow, bekks so I can see, which hardware is build in(04:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF117M [GeForce 610M/710M/820M / GT 620M/625M/630M/720M] (rev ff))-a hybrid card, but I mean which driver is used. I want to run nvidia cuda.
[10:56] <Ben64> TheHackOps: so what error do you get when you try to run it
[10:56] <blackflow> dreamon_: lsmod will show loaded kernel modules
[10:56] <TheHackOps> Ben64, None when i double click it or right click and run
[10:56] <TheHackOps> from the terminal
[10:56] <TheHackOps> blackbox@LittleBlackBox:~/Desktop$ ./qt-opensource-linux-x86-android-5.4.0.run
[10:56] <TheHackOps> bash: ./qt-opensource-linux-x86-android-5.4.0.run: No such file or directory
[10:56] <blackflow> TheHackOps: did you check the shebang line as I told you?
[10:57] <TheHackOps> I cant
[10:57] <dreamon_> blackflow, this one? -> video                  19476  1 i915
[10:57] <TheHackOps> the .run file is compiled
[10:57] <Ben64> TheHackOps: what is the output of "file ./qt-opensource-linux-x86-android-5.4.0.run"
[10:57] <Ubuntu14dl> aoeui
[10:57] <blackflow> TheHackOps: head -c 10 qt-open....    will show you the first 10 chars of that file, it'll be binary garbage, or a textual shebang
[10:58] <TheHackOps> Ben64, Let me check for you
[10:58] <TheHackOps> ./qt-opensource-linux-x86-android-5.4.0.run: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, BuildID[sha1]=48236d4f74765b72dea10bfc36d7970ccf745141, not stripped
[10:58] <blackflow> dreamon_: no, I mean if you have nvidia running, then it will be listed, if you had nouveau, it'll be listed instead
[10:59] <TheHackOps> blackflow, It gives me binary garbage not a shebang
[10:59] <genkgo> blackflow: when checking for smart capabilities I get: >> Terminate command early due to bad response to IEC mode page
[10:59] <blackflow> TheHackOps: yeah, I see you have an elf there
[10:59] <blackflow> genkgo: I'd say faulty drives then
[10:59] <TheHackOps> I hope not they are weird
[11:00] <TheHackOps> blackflow, But its not specific to this file
[11:00] <dreamon_> nothing at all -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10354943/
[11:00] <blackflow> dreamon_: you're running in VirtualBox?
[11:00] <Ubuntu14dl> aoeui are the vowels
[11:01] <Ubuntu14dl> dreamon_: I like that nick.
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> Ubuntu14dl  state your issue instead of telling us that a is a vowel
[11:01] <dreamon_> blackflow, No.. :)
[11:01] <bekks> dreamon_: you are using the i915 driver.
[11:02] <Ubuntu14dl> "is tthis the man that laid the nations low?"
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> Ubuntu14dl  stop
[11:02] <Ubuntu14dl> vows are important yano
[11:03] <blackflow> dreamon_: then that's the vbox host drivers, my mistake... btw, that video, shows i915, do you have Intel graphics there?
[11:03] <dreamon_> bekks, Thats possible. because of the bios I think. Switched to intel?
[11:03] <genkgo> blackflow: is it also possible that my hdd is not recognized correctly by the OS? I mean, this machine is completely new: it is a VPS within a hyper v storage platform.
[11:03] <bekks> dreamon_: I dont know your hist system.
[11:03] <blackflow> genkgo: VPS? then you can't use smart on the virtual drives
[11:03] <Ubuntu14dl> My issue.
[11:03] <Ubuntu14dl> :)
[11:03] <blackflow> genkgo: and omg that's your problem right there. you're on a congested vps.
[11:03] <dinosaur> genkgo: what is wrong with it?
[11:03] <Ubuntu14dl> Let not my flesh see corruption.
[11:03] <genkgo> blackflow: oh :) I do not know
[11:03] <bekks> dreamon_: Whats the issue behind all that - are you trying to install graphics drivers in a virtualbox vm?
[11:04] <genkgo> dinosaur: bad IO performance
[11:04] <Ubuntu14dl> translate.
[11:04] <TheHackOps> blackflow, Hmm well thanks for your time I think ill just use mint for now
[11:04] <dinosaur> genkgo: have you tried iotop?
[11:04] <genkgo> take multiple minutes to import  6MB of mysql data
[11:04] <blackflow> TheHackOps: seriously, that's your answer to this problem? :)
[11:04] <TheHackOps> blackflow, Well I cant install anything that isnt in a repo
[11:04] <TheHackOps> And i need to be able to
[11:04] <TheHackOps> so
[11:04] <Ben64> not true, but ok
[11:04] <genkgo> dinosaur: yes, kworker and jdb2 are eating everything
[11:05] <leon_> hallo
[11:05] <TheHackOps> Ben64, Whats not true?
[11:05] <Ben64> that you "can't install anything that isn't in a repo"
[11:05] <TheHackOps> I cant run any executable scripts or binaries
[11:05] <blackflow> TheHackOps: I wouldn't go that far, I'd just say you can't run those particular exes. I don't know why, I'm willing to bet wrong libc or something like that. Are those android apps you're tring to run on Ubuntu?
[11:05] <Ubuntu14dl> Speaking of virtual box.
[11:05] <dreamon_> bekks, no. I never used the nvidia part of the hybrid graphic card. couldnt remember I switched it of in bios. now I will give it a new try after a year.
[11:05] <Ubuntu14dl> Ubuntu 6 or 7 touches hardware.
[11:05] <TheHackOps> blackflow, they're Qt binaries
[11:05] <TheHackOps> and
[11:05] <TheHackOps> pycharm
[11:05] <TheHackOps> bins
[11:06] <AlecTaylor> hi
[11:06] <AlecTaylor> How do I redirect incoming traffic going to port 80, to port 8000 instead? - I've tried: `iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8000`
[11:06] <TheHackOps> Worked on every other version of ubuntu
[11:06] <blackflow> TheHackOps: why is there android in the file name?
[11:06] <dreamon_> Thank you all. Now I know where to go on.
[11:06] <bekks> !prime | dreamon_
[11:06] <TheHackOps> blackflow, Qt ANdroid sdk
[11:06] <blackflow> TheHackOps: oh, okay.
[11:06] <bekks> dreamon_: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Hybrid-Grafikkarten/Prime?redirect=no
[11:06] <TheHackOps> blackflow, I have been using Ubuntu for about 7 years now
[11:06] <Ben64> TheHackOps: here try running this.... http://ben64.com/hell2
[11:06] <TheHackOps> Would rly hate to drop it now
[11:06] <TheHackOps> because of this
[11:07] <dreamon_> Ubuntu14dl, thanks. your the first one.
[11:07] <Ben64> if you can't run it, you have a broken install/system
[11:07] <bekks> TheHackOps: Because of what? A random, broken, .run file? :)
[11:07] <Ubuntu14dl> The vm is more secure considering the nations are many and any one man can become a victim of the voters.
[11:07] <TheHackOps> bekks, No not one file
[11:07] <TheHackOps> I cant run any file
[11:07] <bekks> TheHackOps: Why not?
[11:07] <Ben64> TheHackOps: try mine
[11:07] <TheHackOps> bekks, lol
[11:07] <dreamon_> reboot.. bye
[11:08] <bekks> TheHackOps: I dont see any joke in that question - did you make it executable, ensure that it exists in the current directory, and run "./thatfile"?
[11:08] <dinosaur> genkgo: what do you know about this jdb2 thing? I don't have anything like that in my process list.
[11:08] <TheHackOps> bekks, Yes
[11:08]  * Ben64 pokes TheHackOps
[11:08] <bekks> TheHackOps: So whats the output of "./thatfile" then?
[11:08] <TheHackOps> I did it exactly as i have for many years
[11:09] <blackflow> bekks: he did, the error is file not found, so I thought wrong shell interpreter line, or some binary dep, possibly wrong libc
[11:09] <genkgo> blackflow: if it is a VPS, could the setup of the hoster cause the problems? It is a new platform and this machine it the first one from the cluster
[11:09] <dinosaur> genkgo: is the disk size fixed or modifiable?
[11:09] <blackflow> genkgo: absolutely. Is it Azure?
[11:09] <genkgo> genkgo: I do not know, that is out my scope.
[11:09] <TheHackOps> Ben64, Sorry just checking the files contents
[11:09] <bekks> blackflow: And did he take a look at the first line of that file?
[11:09] <Ubuntu14dl> The lawyers think its ok for a man to be the victim of mobs voting without surety.
[11:09] <TheHackOps> Never ever to paranoid
[11:09] <genkgo> baclflow: Hyper V
[11:09] <Ben64> TheHackOps: its 52 bytes, would be quite impressive if it was dangerous
[11:09] <blackflow> bekks: that's what I suggested with head -c 10, but 'file' shows an ELF
[11:10] <Ubuntu14dl> Nothing has changed in 2000 years.
[11:10] <bekks> blackflow: "file" is often mislead when having a shell script wrapper which executes a binary file".
[11:10] <bekks> With the last ".
[11:10] <bekks> *without
[11:10] <genkgo> dinosaur: I do not know if the size is modifiable
[11:10] <TheHackOps> Ben64, Hmm that worked...
[11:10] <Ben64> TheHackOps: so you can run things :D
[11:10] <TheHackOps> That was a good test
[11:10] <TheHackOps> ok
[11:10] <TheHackOps> Yes
[11:11] <dinosaur> genkgo: try to create the virtual disk again, this time using fixed size and check if there'll be a difference
[11:11] <blackflow> no need to nuke this for mint then :)
[11:11] <TheHackOps> So I wonder whats to weird about all these other files
[11:11] <Ben64> sounds like a bad file then
[11:11] <Ubuntu14dl> Dram until my dreams come true.
[11:11] <TheHackOps> What depends i am misisng
[11:11] <Ubuntu14dl> Then infinity is eternal.
[11:11] <Ubuntu14dl> Xman
[11:11] <blackflow> genkgo: I'd bet it's a problematic VM setup on the host, but as I have zero clue about windows virtualization, I can't help with that.
[11:11] <dinosaur> genkgo: how do you measure the speed?
[11:11] <TheHackOps> Ben64, Both pycharm and qt?
[11:11] <TheHackOps> It sounds more like im missing something
[11:11] <TheHackOps> or a symlink is broken
[11:11] <Ben64> TheHackOps: where did you get them
[11:12] <Delphin> hello, how do I set up POST request on apache2 server?
[11:12] <TheHackOps> Ben64, From their respective websites
[11:12] <TheHackOps> Would you like me to link
[11:12] <Ben64> sure
[11:12] <TheHackOps> Ben64, http://www.qt.io/download-open-source/#
[11:12] <TheHackOps> https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/
[11:12] <genkgo> dinosaur: I do not 'measure'. I reached the conclusions quickly when mysql import 6 MB import takes multiple minutes and rsync causes my complete IO to be captured.
[11:12] <TheHackOps> Someone in here tried them last night
[11:12] <TheHackOps> And said they worked
[11:13] <dinosaur> genkgo: so try dd if=/dev/random of=testfile bs=1024k count=100
[11:13] <Ubuntu14dl> I thought youns were real people.
[11:13] <bekks> dinosaur: Thats a neat /dev/random benchmark :) Better use /dev/zero
[11:13] <blackflow> TheHackOps: I'd look for .deb files for both, rather than trying those .runs. There _should_ be .deb files, even Ubuntu builds, at least for pycharm
[11:14] <Ben64> TheHackOps: the qt one at least doesn't link me to one that says "android" in it...
[11:14] <dinosaur> bekks: I am not sure if it will be not optimized in a way
[11:14] <TheHackOps> I know this is offtopic but I am always amazed how good the support is in the ubuntu community
[11:14] <bekks> dinosaur: It will not be optimized in any way.
[11:14] <TheHackOps> So thanks
[11:14] <genkgo> dinosaur: IO is not captured
[11:14] <TheHackOps> Ben64, let me get you the link to the exact run file im using
[11:14] <Ben64> i think you're trying to run something made for android
[11:14] <dinosaur> genkgo: I can't get it? The data is not saved on the disk or what?
[11:14] <TheHackOps> Ben64, http://download.qt-project.org/official_releases/qt/5.4/5.4.0/qt-opensource-linux-x64-android-5.4.0.run
[11:14] <TheHackOps> Im not
[11:14] <genkgo> dinosaur: dd: warning: partial read (102 bytes); suggest iflag=fullblock
[11:15] <Ubuntu14dl> Thos assumptions are the product of the age.
[11:15] <TheHackOps> its Qt Creator + Qt 5.4 + the Android SDK
[11:15] <Ben64> TheHackOps: yeah thats for android
[11:15] <genkgo> dinosaur: and it is still running
[11:15] <TheHackOps> Ben64, Its not for running on android
[11:15] <Ben64> TheHackOps: it is...
[11:15] <TheHackOps> Its for a linux host
[11:15] <TheHackOps> its not
[11:15] <dinosaur> genkgo: OK. Kill it and try with count=1
[11:15] <dinosaur> then count=10
[11:15] <dinosaur> then count=100
[11:16] <TheHackOps> Ben64, http://i.imgur.com/cFuIlLW.png
[11:16] <blackflow> genkgo: partial read? what is your if= source?
[11:16] <dinosaur> I have removed almost everything from my system, leaving only the essential packages. Is it safe reboot or do you suggest I should install something?
[11:16] <genkgo> dinosaur: Total DISK WRITE: 0 (only when there is a http request on the machine the disk write increases)
[11:17] <Ben64> TheHackOps: yeah... says "for android"
[11:17] <genkgo> dinosaur: with count=10, I get: dd: warning: partial read (6 bytes); suggest iflag=fullbloc
[11:17] <dinosaur> genkgo: what's the exact command do you use? copy and paste it
[11:17] <TheHackOps> Ben64, Its the NDK
[11:17] <genkgo> dd if=/dev/random of=testfile bs=1024k count=10
[11:17] <dinosaur> OK, change /dev/random with /dev/zero
[11:17] <dinosaur> and try again
[11:17] <TheHackOps> Ben64, If there is one thing i do know its qt
[11:18] <TheHackOps> Thats their complete Android dev enviroment
[11:18] <genkgo> dinosaur: 10485760 bytes (10 MB) copied, 0,0115743 s, 906 MB/s
[11:18] <Ben64> TheHackOps: then gdb it
[11:18] <backbox> hi
[11:18] <backbox> im new here
[11:18] <backbox> can someone help me with a walk through
[11:19] <genkgo> dinosaur: I know my host set up replication to another machine, real time. Could this cause the issue?
[11:19] <TheHackOps> Ben64, I dont think that is going to help, It has something to do with file system permissions i think
[11:19] <bekks> backbox: With a walkthrough through what?
[11:19] <blackflow> TheHackOps: Ben64: the ELF is 32-bit, could it be missing a 32-bit lib on a 64-bit Ubuntu? I don't know how multilib works on Ubuntu, but on some distros it'll break like that.
[11:19] <backbox> how to get started using its features
[11:19] <TheHackOps> Ben64, Lots of people have had this issue for lots of different run files
[11:19] <bekks> backbox: Define "its".
[11:19] <Ben64> blackflow: easy to see with gdb
[11:19] <blackflow> Ben64: true.
[11:19] <backbox> i am having issues with nbtscan
[11:20] <backbox> no results
[11:20] <backbox> bekks
[11:20] <oussama> haw can i use gcc
[11:20] <bekks> backbox: What do you need nbtscan for, actually? Whats the actual issue behind that?
[11:20] <oussama> good morning
[11:20] <dinosaur> genkgo: I think so, becuase the data must be read. Can you turn off replication and try again?
[11:20] <backbox> i want try scanning i.p addresses
[11:21] <genkgo> dinosaur: I do not think I can do that
[11:21] <dreamon> Optiums is active in bios. bumblebee is installed on 14.04. think I told him to use i915. I want to run blender with nvidia-cuda support. how can I do it?
[11:21] <bekks> backbox: Then nbtscan is the totally wrong tool :) This is what nbtscan does: http://www.unixwiz.net/tools/nbtscan.html
[11:21] <genkgo> I am not the owner of the machine, just the VPS user
[11:21] <genkgo> or can I turn it off?
[11:22] <backbox> bekks: so what tool do i need
[11:22] <Ubuntu14dl> Do youns want a vps?
[11:22] <TheHackOps> Ben64, Contains no debug symbols
[11:22] <bekks> backbox: First state the actual issue behind your wish.
[11:22] <Ben64> thats fine, could still tell you where it crashes
[11:22] <hyppocrate> hi all , do you know how can i rename lot of files from on directory ? like $ls VideoVacance.net_aventures.avi  VideoVacance.net_trip.avi [11:22] <genkgo> dinosaur: how should I turn it of?
[11:23] <backbox> i am trying my hands out on pen testing
[11:23] <backbox> @bekks
[11:23] <Ben64> backbox: are you on... backbox perhaps
[11:23] <backbox> bekks: now yes
[11:23] <bekks> backbox: So you arent even using Ubuntu, arent you?
[11:23] <Ben64> backbox: then head over to irc.autistici.org #backbox
[11:24] <backbox> bekks: on my vmware, i am
[11:24] <TheHackOps> Ben64, Cant attach coz it wont start
[11:24] <TheHackOps> lol
[11:25] <dinosaur> genkgo: I don't know, but note that it seems that the linear writing to the disk works OK
[11:25] <bekks> genkgo: Pastebin the output of "free -m" please.
[11:25] <Ben64> TheHackOps: bad download? running on something mounted noexec?
[11:25] <genkgo> dinosaur: I noticed that too, 10485760 bytes (10 MB) copied, 0,0115743 s, 906 MB/s, seems pretty good result
[11:25] <TheHackOps> Ben64, The noexec is the most likely culperate
[11:25] <TheHackOps> Mind looking at my fstab
[11:25] <bekks> genkgo: Ten MB IO happens entirely in your RAM, so the result will be fast, always.
[11:26] <dinosaur> bekks: but it must be copied to the disk?
[11:26] <Ben64> TheHackOps: it would show up in the "mount" command
[11:26] <backbox> How to get started with bacbox
[11:26] <blackflow> TheHackOps: which was the first thing I told you to check :)
[11:26] <TheHackOps> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/qvSkjh6E
[11:26] <bekks> dinosaur: It will be. But thats the job of the IO cache :)
[11:26] <Ben64> backbox: --->head over to irc.autistici.org #backbox <----
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> backbox  this is for ubuntu, sure you're in the right channel?
[11:26] <backbox> ben64: sites not opening
[11:27] <dinosaur> genkgo: so try to increase count and send us the command + the output again
[11:27] <genkgo> bekks: with how much should I increase the command?
[11:27] <bekks> genkgo: Again: Pastebin the output of "free -m".
[11:27] <Ben64> backbox: its an irc server/channel
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> backbox  you're in the wrong channel, that's why you're not getting answers
[11:28] <dinosaur> genkgo: also, I noticed that you told us about importing sql / using rsync command. I believe that you are doing it between different hosts. Are you should that it is not a network congestion, not a disk problem?
[11:29] <dinosaur> Are you sure, I meant
[11:29] <genkgo> bekks: http://pastebin.com/FnKVQzWS
[11:29] <genkgo> thats terrible
[11:29] <genkgo> all memory is eaten while dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile bs=1024k count=1000
[11:30] <blackflow> genkgo: no, are you reading the buffers/cache line?
[11:30] <bekks> genkgo: Memory not being used is memory wasted.
[11:30] <genkgo> bekks: then what is eating my memory? :)
[11:30] <backbox> ben64: i am there
[11:30] <bekks> genkgo: you have about 13GB of your RAM being used as IO cache.
[11:30] <blackflow> genkgo: you've got 13GB free
[11:30] <bekks> genkgo: Nothing is eating your memory. only 3GB are used.
[11:30] <blackflow> and lol at 30GB swap :D
[11:31] <TheHackOps> blackflow, Anyway im off for tonight Ill try again tomorrow or else ill just have to use mint
[11:31] <TheHackOps> Thanks so much for everyones time
[11:31] <genkgo> bekks blackflow dinosaur: I am lost, I do not get the picture anymore.
[11:32] <bekks> genkgo: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ :)
[11:32] <blackflow> genkgo: at this point I'd talk to your hosting provider.
[11:33] <bekks> genkgo: PAstebin the output of vmstat 1 20 when running your mysql import in parallel.
[11:33] <dinosaur> genkgo: some memory may be cached, so if you (let us say) started and closed application, the system wouldn't have to reload it to memory again. But don't worry about it right now.
[11:33] <genkgo> bekks: thanks for the link, that solves my understanding of free -m
[11:33] <genkgo> :)
[11:34] <genkgo> blackflow: what would be my message? IO problems?
[11:34] <genkgo> bekks: will do.
[11:34] <blackflow> genkgo: yup.
[11:34] <bekks> genkgo: In a few moments we will know whats happening ;)
[11:34] <dinosaur> bekks: honestly, I don't know how you've got to the conclusion that 3 GB of memory is used, but I can't display the result in a nice way right now, so perhaps it's because of that
[11:35] <bekks> dinosaur: IO cache can be safely considered as unused memory - the the link above :)
[11:36] <dinosaur> genkgo: Describe everything what you've done, but one thing is still paying my attention
[11:36] <dinosaur> genkgo: you told us about importing sql database and rsyncing. Once again: it was done from a host to a different host?
[11:36] <genkgo> bekks: it is running, a 6 MB import
[11:36] <bekks> dinosaur: That doesnt matter for a 6MB file :)
[11:36] <genkgo> bekks: and it is still running
[11:37] <bekks> genkgo: No run that vmstat 1 20 in parallel
[11:37] <dinosaur> bekks: what does not matter?
[11:37] <bekks> *Now
[11:37] <bekks> dinosaur: Network speed :)
[11:37] <genkgo> dinosaur: it is not network, problems take place after downloading files
[11:37] <dinosaur> bekks: if the internet connection's bad, then yes, it does matter
[11:38] <genkgo> bekks: http://pastebin.com/Mv8gBx44
[11:38] <genkgo> bekks: I also quited the command, it was still running
[11:38] <blackflow> 50% iowait for 50kb block, yeah, talk to your host
[11:39] <blackflow> genkgo: ^^^^
[11:39] <bekks> genkgo: Look at the 2nd last column - your VPS is experiencing heavy IO wait events, so the underlying host is under heavy IO load. Talk to your server provider.
[11:39] <dinosaur> http://pastebin.com/Mv8gBx44http://pastebin.com/Mv8gBx44http://pastebin.com/Mv8gBx44
[11:39] <dinosaur> sorry
[11:39] <dinosaur> terminal working badly
[11:40] <genkgo> bekks: could that be caused by replication?
[11:40] <bekks> genkgo: Yeah.
[11:40] <blackflow> genkgo: MySQL replication?
[11:40] <genkgo> blackflow: I believe it is complete system replication
[11:40] <bekks> genkgo: So talk to your server provider.
[11:41] <dinosaur> bekks, blackflow: how does it happen that the linear writing to the disk is fast, why normal disk operations seems to be congested?
[11:41] <genkgo> bekks: will do. thank a lot for all your help. it is really wonderful that you took so much time in answering my questions, much appreciated.
[11:42] <bekks> dinosaur: the 10MB IO operation happened entirely in the IO cache in the RAM, so no disk IO was ever involved.
[11:42] <dinosaur> bekks: but he also increased the count, AFAIR
[11:42] <bekks> dinosaur: Thats why dd with smaller total amounts of data than the IO cache size is totally useless.
[11:42] <bekks> dinosaur: He did not use a total IO size of > 13GB.
[11:42] <blackflow> dinosaur: was that with or without fsync after each block with dd?
[11:43] <dinosaur> blackflow: dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile bs=1024k count=[various numbers] - it is what I gave him
[11:43] <dinosaur> blackflow: so I guest without, am I right?
[11:43] <blackflow> dinosaur: you need conv=fdatasync to actually write each block to disk
[11:43] <bekks> dinosaur: with count 1, 10 and 100 - which is far smaller than 13GB.
[11:44] <dinosaur> blackflow, bekks: thanks, it will be useful for the future
[11:44] <genkgo> dinosaur: but the second time I did count=1000
[11:44] <blackflow> otherwise it lingers in memory at the convenience of the kernel to commit it to diwk
[11:44] <blackflow> *disk
[11:44] <dinosaur> genkgo: they tell us that it is still too much. Right, bekks, blackflow?
[11:44] <dinosaur> *too little
[11:44] <jfb> Hi, I'm trying to set an xtreamer up to run as a server without a monitor. I can't get the machine to boot without a monitor plugged in (Ubuntu 14.04). I've followed this, but no success: http://askubuntu.com/questions/234081/how-to-boot-ubuntu-without-a-monitor-plugged-in
[11:45] <bekks> vmstat told us that the system is experiencing heavy IO load.
[11:45] <bekks> genkgo: count=1000 means 1GB with a bs of 1M.
[11:45] <jfb> any suggestions on booting without a monitor?
[11:46] <dinosaur> bekks: could you please explain how you figured out that he has 3 MB of memory used?
[11:46] <dinosaur> *3 GB
[11:46] <blackflow> dinosaur: the "-/+ buffers/cache" line in 'free -m'
[11:46] <bekks> dinosaur: BY looking at the cache portion of free -m, which said "about 13GB". With a total RAM of 16GB, that leads to 3GB being used.
[11:48] <dinosaur> bekks: cache portion of it says that 13746 MB of memory is free. How should it be interpreted? I can't comfortably open your link in browser, because it will most likely use all my free memory
[11:49] <bekks> dinosaur: Did you read the link I posted?
[11:49] <bekks> dinosaur: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[11:49] <Delphin> anyone know how to enable http post in apache2 config?
[11:49] <dinosaur> bekks: I'm not sure if I'll be able to right now, as I said. OK, let's give it a try.
[11:50] <blackflow> Delphin: unless you're explicitly denying POST, it's already enabled
[11:50] <blackflow> Delphin: also, -> #apache
[11:51] <dinosaur> bekks: OK, I already got it.
[11:51] <dinosaur> bekks: thx
[11:52] <dinosaur> Now: I have removed almost everything from my system. I've left only packages marked as essential (I hope that I've left all of them, but I'm not even sure). Do you suggest I install something before rebooting?
[11:52] <blackflow> dinosaur: depends what you want to achieve.
[11:53] <dinosaur> blackflow: I want the system to boot on its own after reboot.
[11:53] <dinosaur> grub is not installed, I noticed
[11:54] <bekks> So you need to install grub.
[11:54] <blackflow> dinosaur: are you not using a default Ubuntu installation?
[11:54] <dinosaur> blackflow: default Ubuntu Server 12.04
[11:55] <blackflow> dinosaur: oh you're stripping off unneded packages from a default installation?
[11:55] <bekks> The question is: why?
[11:56] <dinosaur> blackflow: no, I want to build Ubuntu from scratch. I can do it pretty safely, because I do this operations in a VM, but I would rather prefer not to do the job twice, so it's why I'm asking if there's something I should install
[11:57] <blackflow> dinosaur: you could follow the Linux From Scratch handbook and instead use Ubuntu provided .debs for each required package. Assuming you know what you're doing :)
[11:57] <bazhang> !mini | dinosaur and build it up
[11:57] <bekks> dinosaur: Using a basic server installation would be more targetting :)
[11:57] <dinosaur> bekks: what do you mean basic server installation?
[11:58] <bekks> dinosaur: Just use the server iso from Ubuntu, and use it for installing your VM. Thats a reasonable small vm afterwards.
[11:58] <dinosaur> bekks: right now, it takes 600 MB of disk space
[11:58] <blackflow> I must've misunderstood the "build from scratch" then :)
[11:58] <bekks> dinosaur: Which is very small.
[11:58] <ioria> dinosaur, try the mini - iso
[11:59] <dinosaur> bekks: it's because I've got rid of all the packages which were possible to remove
[11:59] <bekks> dinosaur: Why?
[11:59] <bekks> Whats the actual goal behind that?
[11:59] <dinosaur> bekks: because I want to build it from scratch to know the system better and also for fun.
[12:00] <blackflow> dinosaur: The do Linux From Scratch first. Then do a Gentoo install. And then try LFS with Ubuntu debs :D That's a all year round fun right there ;)
[12:00] <blackflow> *Then
[12:00] <bekks> dinosaur: You will not "know the system better" when doing that - you will just learn that random removal of packages may harm your system.
[12:00] <dinosaur> bekks: you are wrong. I'm going to read a bit of source code of chosen packages
[12:01] <ioria> dinosaur, i got the same idea... then i understood that was beyond my forces and started to study a manual
[12:01] <bekks> dinosaur: I am right. I've already been there where you want to go to...
[12:01] <bekks> dinosaur: About two decades ago ;)
[12:01] <dinosaur> bekks: I'm not going to read through everything. Just pieces that are of my interest.
[12:01] <simlis19> hallo all - excuse me this is a trial
[12:01] <ConfusedPerson> hallo
[12:01] <bekks> dinosaur: No one said you should read "everything".
[12:02] <dinosaur> dammit. I've rendered the system unusable
[12:02] <bekks> dinosaur: But your proposed learning path is not targetting your goal.
[12:02] <blackflow> dinosaur: you're using conflicting words then. Do you want to learn Ubuntu inside out or a linux distro? Because the former does not really need building it "from scratch".
[12:02] <dinosaur> blackflow: Linux, but Ubuntu is a distribution that I like
[12:02] <bazhang> is there an actual support question regarding what dinosaur is doing
[12:03] <simlis19> ok it seems that I'm able using thunderbird to chat
[12:03] <simlis19> bye
[12:03] <blackflow> dinosaur: which is pre-built and pre-configured for easier use. IF you want to learn how distros are built, then do LFS or Gentoo.
[12:03] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please
[12:04] <dinosaur> bazhang: OK, so after I choose Ubuntu from boot menu, it tells me that there is no such file. Do you know solution?
[12:04] <bazhang> multiple distros support can move to ##linux
[12:04] <dinosaur> bazhang: but I'm using Ubuntu
[12:05] <bazhang> dinosaur, sounds like you overdid it in the removal department, is this a vm or what
[12:05] <dinosaur> bazhang: sure, it is a vm
[12:05] <dinosaur> it tells me "you need to load the kernel first" (something like that)
[12:06] <bazhang> dinosaur, so grab the mini iso around 60mb, and build up; you could have it running in the next ten minutes or so
[12:06] <firelegend> Hi all. In tcpdump -vv -i <interface> my output contains some IP addresses that have ".domain" appended to them(without quotes).
[12:06] <firelegend> what does that mean?
[12:11] <dinosaur> is there an easy way of going to the console after booting from Ubuntu Live CD? I know that it's possible after entering Live mode, but I  would like to have the possibility to do it immediately after booting from CD
[12:11] <dinosaur> also, I'm not sure what "Recovery mode" (sth like that) is for
[12:11] <dinosaur> seems like it's a usual reinstallation
[12:12] <dinosaur> am  I wrong?
[12:12] <EriC^^> touchpad is working again, i cracked open the laptop and put some alcohol and a hair dryer for a couple hours, today touchpad was working but ironically the keyboard stopped working correctly, i put some alcohol and let it dry, i was able to get past the bios into ubuntu but most buttons didnt work, anyways it seems heat is helping it so i ran for i in `seq 1 10`; do gnome-terminal -e `seq 1 10000000`; done and got the temps way up and now it seems to be workin
[12:12] <EriC^^> g correctly again, in case somebody spills soda, pour alcohol, let it dry, and run something to warm up
[12:16] <charlesj> is there an appropriate chatroom for caeer/job opportunities?
[12:17] <bazhang> !alis | charlesj
[12:17] <SchrodingersScat> !alis | charlesj
[12:17] <charlesj> thanks guys
[12:17] <charlesj> !alis
[12:18] <bazhang> please join #freenode <---- charlesj
[12:18] <charlesj> ok
[12:25] <cyberfab007> can someone provide me online insturstion to set up apache for a single website ? There are so many to choose from
[12:26] <cyberfab007> I am using ubuntu 14.10
[12:26] <avatar_> test
[12:26] <cyberfab007> I don't want to just randomly 777 on the webroot
[12:26] <cyberfab007> I want to do it poperly
[12:27] <avatar_> can anyone tell me how to return the scrollbar behavior to the original one? I upgraded to ubuntu 14,, and this is bad
[12:27] <dinosaur> first try with mini ubuntu - a purple screen of death
[12:27] <dinosaur> when installing
[12:28] <avatar_> when I click over or under the scrollbar in browser now, it JUMPS to that opsition instead of just scrolling one page up or down. How do I change it back, please?
[12:29] <avatar_> And another thing: menu fonts and toolbar fonts are screwed now, the selected windown for example has several overwrites and the menu looks like the text is written twice over itself
[12:29] <SchrodingersScat> cyberfab007: afaik, 755 for directories, 644 for files. may change depending on what you're doing.
[12:31] <xor_x> hello everyone, can anyone tell me how can I improve my visual design on unity desktop, I'm really feeling boring with orange colored theme
[12:32] <avatar_> Or has ubuntu become the new Windows Vista?
[12:33] <ConfusedPerson> oh damn
[12:33] <rateder> avatar_: Windows ME
[12:34] <avatar_> rateder: no, in Windows ME, you could actually change the GUI to a nice setting, you could change window colors, sizes and everything, I did not find any way to change it in Ubuntu
[12:34] <ConfusedPerson> avatar_: unity is not customisable
[12:35] <avatar_> rateder: I would much more prefer Windows ME to Ubuntu 14, Windows ME had so much more friendlier UI and you cuold actually do something in it.
[12:35] <ConfusedPerson> You could replace the desktop environment to something customisable, like KDE, but eww
[12:35] <dinosaur> that miniUbuntu is really bad, it is not even possible to install it
[12:35] <ConfusedPerson> also, then go use windows ME
[12:35] <ioria> dinosaur, the mini iso is a net installation... it's possible that the system doesn't know your router  so set a static ip and gateway
[12:35] <avatar_> ConfusedPerson: I do not use unity, but gnome+metacity, but my attempts to find the settings were all in vain
[12:35] <dinosaur> ioria: is there a non-network equivalent?
[12:36] <ConfusedPerson> GNOME isn't customisable either
[12:36] <ConfusedPerson> well it kind of is
[12:36] <avatar_> ConfusedPerson: ubuntu even switched on the dreaded animations after the upgrade to 14, and I can't find a way to turn it off, why? It is making me dizzy anytime I minimize a window.
[12:36] <ConfusedPerson> That's metacity though, isn't it?
[12:37] <avatar_> ConfusedPerson: is Ubuntu secretly trying to kill me by making me trip on a ladder?
[12:37] <xor_x> I actually like unity because it have a little bit flavor of mac, I like the look of mac, not the OS.
[12:37] <dinosaur> I would not use Unity at all. Never seen it, but from I've read I think that any choice will be better.
[12:37] <ioria> dinosaur, no clue. but you can run the text mode installation and configure the network
[12:38] <ConfusedPerson> elementary looks like OSX
[12:38] <ConfusedPerson> avatar_: maybe gconf-editor?
[12:38] <ConfusedPerson> I remember messing around with window manager settings
[12:39] <xor_x> but it does not have the Global Menu! I like that though its not supported by linux community as I know.
[12:39] <dinosaur> ioria: tried that, but I can't see any difference between text and normal mode installation
[12:39] <avatar_> ConfusedPerson: I tried,  tried... there is close to NOTHING there ;-(
[12:39] <ConfusedPerson> I'd change window managers then
[12:40] <ConfusedPerson> I think i used compiz but that thing's probably old now
[12:40] <xor_x> any theme suggestion for unity? or icon? I searched through Google, but can't find one I like.
[12:40] <ioria> dinosaur, i mean the command-line installation. it could say that the network is been found ... but, trust me, sometimes is not true :-P
[12:41] <avatar_> and additionally it says: "Currently pairs and schemas can't be edited, blahblah" ...so, Windows 95 is 100x better than ubuntu in 2014?
[12:41] <ConfusedPerson> avatar_: http://pclinuxos2007.blogspot.com/2010/08/how-to-disable-ugly-gnome-metacity.html
[12:41] <dinosaur> ioria: yes, I know what you meant, but the problem's that command-line installation leads me to exactly the same place what standard installation. A kind of nice console GUI and so on.
[12:42] <ConfusedPerson> avatar_: have you actually used windows ME?
[12:42] <rateder> avatar_: use xubuntu
[12:42] <ConfusedPerson> it's awful
[12:42] <ConfusedPerson> xfce feels old
[12:42] <dinosaur> rateder, avatar_: I would rather recommend Kubuntu
[12:42] <rateder> Xfce is nice now
[12:42] <dinosaur> rateder, avatar_: I a kind of tried XUbuntu. It was not stable
[12:42] <ConfusedPerson> Just the design of kubuntu's website is enough to throw me off
[12:42] <dinosaur> rateder: it was crashing all the time
[12:43] <avatar_> ConfusedPerson: so, there is NO SUCH KEY in the gconf-editor... can I use Xubuntu and keep all the software and settings?
[12:43] <ConfusedPerson> avatar_: no, probably not. But you could just install xfce
[12:43] <ConfusedPerson> instead of switching distros
[12:43] <k1l_> avatar_: you can install xubuntu-desktop and keeping the installed programs
[12:44] <ConfusedPerson> ^
[12:44] <cfhowlett> xfce4 is the DE ... xubuntu-desktop includes apps
[12:44] <dinosaur> k11, avatar_: I strongly advice you against doing it. I once installed it and it was completely unstable.
[12:45] <ConfusedPerson> dinosaur: I had similar experiences with Xubuntu but i'm pretty sure it's the distro that's unstable
[12:45] <k1l_> avatar_: yes, xfce package will only install the desktop.
[12:45] <ConfusedPerson> not XFCE
[12:45] <dinosaur> ConfusedPerson: no, I installed xubuntu(-something?) package on my Kubuntu system and it behaved unstable
[12:45] <rateder> dinosaur: ran great for me. Used very little resources. Was fast.
[12:45] <k1l_> dinosaur: depends on your actual setup and the errors that happen
[12:45] <ConfusedPerson> dinosaur: We're not telling him to install anything xubuntu-related though
[12:46] <rateder> I did a strictly Xfce install.
[12:46] <ConfusedPerson> XFCE != xubuntu
[12:46] <dinosaur> ConfusedPerson: kl1 told him to install xubuntu-desktop
[12:46] <ConfusedPerson> Oh
[12:46] <ConfusedPerson> .
[12:46] <ConfusedPerson> Awkward
[12:46] <rateder> ConfusedPerson: Hess
[12:46] <k1l_> dinosaur: that works. if you have issue come back with exact errors
[12:46] <rateder> ConfusedPerson: yes
[12:46] <dinosaur> ConfusedPerson: if XFCE behaves stable when there is not xubuntu, then it is perhaps the case
[12:47] <k1l_> dinosaur: FUD
[12:47] <dinosaur> k1l_: there are other graphical environments that works, so I don't see much point in doing it
[12:47] <dinosaur> what is FUD?
[12:47] <ConfusedPerson> dinosaur: like what?
[12:47] <dinosaur> ConfusedPerson: fluxbox
[12:47] <dinosaur> ConfusedPerson: KDE
[12:47] <SchrodingersScat> !fud | dinosaur
[12:47] <ConfusedPerson> dinosaur: I've never found a good linux DE
[12:48] <ConfusedPerson> I'm literally using OSX right now
[12:48] <k1l_> dinosaur: we dont know what you changed on your system before you installed xubuntu-"anything" that made it break your system.
[12:48] <k1l_> dinosaur: so stop making panic on installing xubuntu as a desktop
[12:49] <dinosaur> k1l_: it was practically fresh installation. Then somebody here told me to install xubuntu-desktop, I did it, and there was a plethore of things that did not work. Windows did not react to click, applications were impossible to close... I don't remember if that was exactly the case, but it was like that. People here told me to contact xfce support (AFAIR)
[12:50] <hillary> Hi all, I need to make my ubuntu  14.04 LTSlaptop an hotspot where other devices can cannect to internet via. How do i go about?
[12:50] <ConfusedPerson> dinosaur: I mean things might've changed since then
[12:50] <k1l_> and wihtout exact errors that is a nice story, but nothing more
[12:50] <avatar_> k1|_ - my experience in fresh xubuntu install is that a lot of things did not work on some computers.
[12:51] <ConfusedPerson> avatar_: I would suggest just installing xfce4
[12:51] <ConfusedPerson> If you need apps that integrate with XFCE you can install them individually
[12:51] <ConfusedPerson> Your login screen prolly lets you switch between DEs (and you prolly know that)
[12:53] <avatar_> ConfusedPerson: yea, but... is there any no-animation desktop available? I just want plain 2D windows and borders around them. Something that looks like Kickstart 3.0
[12:54] <k1l_> avatar_: there is a huge amount of desktops in the ubuntu repos
[12:54] <k1l_> avatar_: just think about all the tiling stuff etc. but if you want an easy one look after Lubuntu
[12:55] <ConfusedPerson> avatar_: There are no animations in XFCE as far as I know
[12:55] <cyberfab007> SchrodingersScat,  thank you
[12:56] <ConfusedPerson> if there are, you can certainly turn them off
[12:56] <avatar_> k1|_ but are there any that work as intended? there is a lot of useless stuff... and no desktop I have tried in the last 15 years has put the installed software in the GUI menu... maybe except of Mandrake7 or what it was. That was brilliant, but ever since then the GUI is worse and worse.
[12:56] <hillary> hope my question is  understood
[12:57] <avatar_> ConfusedPerson: where is the point in running a linux if you have to constantly repair it as much as you had a virus-loaded windows?
[12:57] <ConfusedPerson> lol
[12:57] <ConfusedPerson> point
[12:58] <k1l_> if you dont want a linux desktop at all, where is the point in asking?
[12:58] <avatar_> ConfusedPerson: or the whole system settings menu in ubuntu: there are like 3 settings in total, and none of those you want or need...
[12:58] <rateder> ConfusedPerson: mint version has animation
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:58] <ConfusedPerson> avatar_: yeah they're becoming like Apple
[12:58] <ConfusedPerson> they make decisions for you
[12:58] <avatar_> k1|_ I want a unix desktop, such as was in Kicstart 3
[12:58] <ConfusedPerson> I don't mind it when apple does it though
[12:59] <ConfusedPerson> maybe cinnamon?
[12:59] <ConfusedPerson> KDE? KDE has lots of settings
[12:59] <k1l_> ConfusedPerson: that is plain wrong. du you even know about gnome 3 basis?
[12:59] <rateder> ConfusedPerson: mint Xfce
[12:59] <k1l_> sorry, but this is too much myths in here. please stay at facts
[12:59] <rateder> ConfusedPerson: has animation
[12:59] <ConfusedPerson> k1l_: i was talking about Unity
[13:00] <k1l_> ConfusedPerson: yes. and that is build on the gnome3 basis. unity is a shell on gnome3
[13:00] <cfhowlett> great conversation for
[13:00] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu-offtopic.  this is the support channel, so please ...
[13:01] <k1l_> yes. so if there is no real support issue please put the "my best desktop is" discussion into the offtopic channel. thanks
[13:02] <k1l_> hillary: that laptop got a wired connection? and you want to make it a wifi router?
[13:02] <avatar_> k1|_ -- or the whole install process, you run synaptic, find something that might help you and install it: but how do I run it after installing? I know I had installed it, but with no launcher or any item in the menu, I have to write it down how was it called and probably find a man on what the commands were... what the hell?!?!?!
[13:02] <k1l_> avatar_: nope. plain wrong. unity dash works with program names or tags.
[13:03] <hillary>  kil_ It has a modem and i want to make it a wifi hotspot yes
[13:03] <hillary> sorry k1l
[13:03] <k1l_> avatar_: and synaptic is not used since ages on ubuntu. so better try an actual ubuntu instead of staying on the old experiences
[13:03] <hillary> k1l_: It has modem
[13:04] <k1l_> hillary: did you try the network-manager? it can offer to make a own wifi where others can connect
[13:04] <avatar_> cfhowlett - so help me, because I have real problems, I upgraded to 14.04 and it is horrible: the metacity window minimize animation is back with no way to turn it off, scrollbars in browsers now jump to position when you click on an empty space and that makes them really useless, I can't find any settings on the metacity or any window management, all I can do is to pick up some preselected settings from distribution and that is it, I can;
[13:04] <avatar_> t even find where the files are stored to view them.
[13:04] <hillary> k1l_:Kindly guide me how to go about
[13:05] <avatar_> k1|_ what is unity dash?!
[13:05] <k1l_> !ics
[13:05] <k1l_> avatar_: really?
[13:05] <avatar_> k1|_ really, no unity.
[13:05] <k1l_> so what actual desktop are you running there?
[13:05] <k1l_> !details | avatar_
[13:06] <k1l_> avatar_: and keep in mind: this is a volunteers help channel. beeing such aggressiv  and demanding and badmouthing will not motivate people to help you more.
[13:07] <ConfusedPerson> avatar_: http://pclinuxos2007.blogspot.com/2010/08/how-to-disable-ugly-gnome-metacity.html
[13:07] <ConfusedPerson> You mentioned you had some error when trying to change the values?
[13:07] <k1l_> !ics | hillary there is the way explained for the gui method with network manager
[13:08] <avatar_> ubottu: elaborate? after the upgrade to 14.04 suddenly things look different and work differently, how do I put it back? as simple as that. The font in the menus is screwed and the selected window text in teh programs toolbar is screwed. As if it was overwritten several times over.
[13:08] <hillary> ok let me try thanks
[13:09] <avatar_> ubottu: Windows XP internet sharing: Start -> network and priinters -> right click on the connection your want to share and select "share internet", and you are done. What was wrong with that?
[13:10] <ConfusedPerson> lol
[13:10] <blackflow> avatar_: you're talking to a machine
[13:10] <k1l_> avatar_: so since you make a secret on what desktop you run i can only guess: gnome2 aka gnome3-fallback. so congratulations: gnome removed all chances to customize that fallback like you could on gnome2.
[13:10] <avatar_> ubottu: talking to bots has its magic
[13:11] <k1l_> avatar_: if you mean "overlay-scrollbars" then install dconf-tools, launch dconf-editor and then remove the check on org -> gnome -> desktop -> interface -> overlay scrollbars
[13:12] <k1l_> and make sure your theme you use is actually supported on gnome3 base
[13:12] <avatar_> k1|_, so let me write this down... why does it have to be this complicated?!
[13:12] <k1l_> avatar_: stop making drama!
[13:13] <k1l_> avatar_: either you want your issue to be solved or you leave. this channel is not going to be wasted any more with your rantings
[13:13] <k1l_> get a blog and do your ranting there, stick to actual support in here.
[13:14] <avatar_> k1|_ hah, good point, but still, I did not create this problem, and I spend hours already on the upgrade
[13:15] <avatar_> somebody made my life a pain and it hurts, is that hard to understand that people will rand when you hurt them?
[13:17] <Paddy_NI> Does anyone here know how I can have the keyring automatically unlock when I have auto login enabled with Ubuntu 14.10?
[13:17] <ConfusedPerson> login is as root
[13:17] <Paddy_NI> Setting the same password has not worked now for several releases. I wish people would stop parroting the results of a google search
[13:18] <k1l_> dont login as root! that is a real bad advice
[13:18] <Paddy_NI> I know
[13:18] <Paddy_NI> :-)
[13:19] <k1l_> make sure your wifi is set to be used by all users in the settings in the network manager.
[13:19] <k1l_> so that doesnt require a password to be available
[13:20] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, Not applicable
[13:20] <Paddy_NI> ethernet
[13:21] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, Also my main goal is to have the ability to connect to a vpn on the remote computer, I cannot do this when the remote computer has not been physically logged in
[13:21] <Paddy_NI> I don't have access to those credentials as the keyring has not yet been unlocked
[13:21] <Paddy_NI> setting auto login also fails
[13:21] <k1l_> uh, ypns dont work without keyring, yes
[13:22] <Paddy_NI> As then I am presented with a further request to unlock the keyring thus I still do not have access to those credentials unless I physically go to the computer and unlock the keyring
[13:23] <Paddy_NI> What I would like to happen is for the auto login to also auto unlock the keyring
[13:23] <Paddy_NI> Meaning I do not have to make a trip upstairs and I can work on acquiring a mobility scooter
[13:23] <Paddy_NI> kidding
[13:24] <Paddy_NI> It's odd that no solution seems to exist for this
[13:24] <Paddy_NI> This for example is a total lie http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/disable-unlock-login-keyring-ubuntu-13-04/
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> Paddy_NI  it's possible that what you want, cannot be done
[13:25] <Paddy_NI> So I cannot connect my remote computer to a vpn over ssh until someone logs it in?
[13:25] <Paddy_NI> That pretty lame
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> Paddy_NI  that's why you find no answers or solutions
[13:25] <Paddy_NI> *that;s
[13:25] <Paddy_NI> err
[13:25] <Paddy_NI> It seems to me to be a perfectly valid use case scenario
[13:27] <Paddy_NI> I used to be able to connect via VNC and then login the remote computer but I can not do this since VNC got B0rked on 14.04
[13:27] <Paddy_NI> It still does not seem to be fixed on 14.10
[13:27] <ioria> Paddy_NI, have you tried  "available to all users" in NM ?
[13:27] <Paddy_NI> ioria, I have not noticed that option
[13:27] <Paddy_NI> ioria, I am going to run upstairs and have a look
[13:27] <Paddy_NI> brb
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> Paddy_NI  while you're upstairs, unlock the keyring...
[13:30] <Paddy_NI> MonkeyDust, If I intend on using the computer then I have to....
[13:30] <Paddy_NI> smart ass
[13:32] <Paddy_NI> ioria, Error: Connection activation failed: no valid VPN secrets.
[13:32] <busch_> How can i check if a nslookup returns/not returns an IP in bash?
[13:32] <Paddy_NI> ioria, that is with the "allow all users" set from the vpn
[13:33] <Paddy_NI> I am genuinely dumbfounded. So there is no way of unlocking the keyring over ssh?
[13:34] <Easter> hi
[13:34] <Paddy_NI> I have also tried this to no success https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME_Keyring#PAM_method
[13:35] <drager> I installed Ubuntu 14.10 a few weeks ago with encryption active on the whole disk and my home folder. It worked fine during the installation but when I turn on my computer and tries to enter the passphrase in the input nothing inserts into the box so I reboot my computer and the UI changes (unstyled) and then I can type in my passpharse and that works. So every time I do need to reboot my computer for it to work… When I boot it says GNU GRUB version 2
[13:35] <k1l_> Paddy_NI: i think the issue on that is that you are backdooring security enhancements.
[13:35] <drager> I get a question about report every time I login as well
[13:35] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, I don't see it as backdooring
[13:35] <k1l_> Paddy_NI: so you want to use vpn and such but on the other hand make that available to whatever runs or can login on that device
[13:36] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, It's simply allowing a user who is using ssh to access the keyring and unlock it
[13:36] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, If the computer is logged in then I can just "sudo nmcli con up id "VPN_NAME""
[13:36] <Paddy_NI> If not then I cannot connect the vpn
[13:37] <Paddy_NI> The inner working are of no interest to me
[13:37] <Paddy_NI> Unless they result in a solution to my problem
[13:37] <k1l_> Paddy_NI: i dont say you are hacking that computer. but it is the same as if a malicious user would do. so there is no easy "press here" button for that setup.
[13:37] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, Not really
[13:38] <ioria> Paddy_NI, try : password-flags=0 and  add :  [vpn-secrets]   password=yourpassword
[13:38] <k1l_> Paddy_NI: if the computer is logged in, its not available to everything on that machine or standing before that machine.
[13:38] <Paddy_NI> ioria, That seems plausible
[13:38] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, SSH
[13:38] <k1l_> that is a total different thing you demanding autologin on here.
[13:39] <k1l_> Paddy_NI: or ssh.
[13:39] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, If the hacker already has ssh then I could care less whether they can turn my vpn on or off
[13:39] <Paddy_NI> seriously mate
[13:39] <Paddy_NI> get with the program
[13:39] <Paddy_NI> :-P
[13:39] <Paddy_NI> They can see all of my files and pretty much erase my computer already with ssh access
[13:40] <Paddy_NI> I dont see why the keyring is sandboxed from the ssh session
[13:40] <k1l_> Paddy_NI: i am just answering you why that setup is not thought of as a general usecase
[13:40] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, I really seriously doubt I am the only one trying to do this
[13:40] <Paddy_NI> It was the first thing I wanted to do once I purchased my vpn
[13:40] <k1l_> you could set the kering manager to empty password if you wanted to.
[13:41] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, scroll back
[13:41] <Paddy_NI> lol
[13:41] <k1l_> Paddy_NI: "i demand that" is not the same with "everybody wants that"
[13:41] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, I have demanded nothing
[13:41] <Paddy_NI> please stop misrepresenting this
[13:42] <k1l_> Paddy_NI: then you could set the vpn program to be in sudoers to grant access
[13:42] <Paddy_NI> hmm...
[13:43] <Paddy_NI> I will try as ioria suggested first, however that means I have to remember each password for the VPN connections every time I want to use them
[13:43] <Paddy_NI> if it works that is
[13:44] <Paddy_NI> ioria, Do I enter "password-flags=0 and  add :  [vpn-secrets]   password=yourpassword" as is with my details or is that meant to be appended to the nmcli connection command?
[13:45] <Paddy_NI> ioria, I find the use of spacing to be a little confusing too
[13:45] <Paddy_NI> double-spaced after the colon
[13:45] <ioria> Paddy_NI, edit /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ConnectionName and under [vpn]
[13:45] <Paddy_NI> and after the closing square bracker
[13:45] <Paddy_NI> *bracket
[13:47] <ioria> Paddy_NI, restart with sudo nmcli con up id connection_name
[13:47] <Paddy_NI> brb
[13:51] <Paddy_NI> ioria, Do I add the colon?
[13:51] <Paddy_NI> should it all be on one line
[13:52] <Paddy_NI> password-flags=0 : [vpn-secrets] password=yourpassword
[13:52] <Paddy_NI> like above?
[13:53] <Paddy_NI> I guess making this machine headless will not be an option
[13:53] <Paddy_NI> If I use Ubuntu server then is the keyring done away with?
[13:53] <Paddy_NI> And if so what stores credentials?
[13:54] <k1l_> well, that is a totally other setup
[13:54] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, not so much
[13:54] <ioria> Paddy_NI, sorry, no no colon
[13:55] <Paddy_NI> ioria, Does [vpn-secrets] need to be left as is or do I put something in there?
[13:56] <ioria> Paddy_NI, under  [vpn-secrets] password=yapassword
[13:56] <Paddy_NI> ioria, So it is not all on one line?
[13:57] <ioria> Paddy_NI, no
[13:57] <Paddy_NI> [vpn-secrets] is on a new line?
[13:57] <Paddy_NI> oh
[13:57] <ioria> Paddy_NI, yes
[13:57] <Paddy_NI> lol
[13:57] <Paddy_NI> maybe I should leave this and accept defeat
[13:58] <ioria> Paddy_NI, lol
[13:58] <Paddy_NI> I wonder what other Ubuntu users do, especially those that have their computer is drastically different locations
[13:58] <Paddy_NI> I guess they have to hop on a bus to login the keyring...
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> Paddy_NI  they go upstairs and unlock the keyring
[13:59] <Paddy_NI> MonkeyDust, You should really learn to read
[13:59] <Paddy_NI> derp
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> Paddy_NI  i was being sarcastic
[13:59] <Paddy_NI> :-P
[13:59] <k1l> Paddy_NI: so what do you want to do after the vpn is activated?
[13:59] <dinosaur> rsyncing everything and then starting removing packages again - I will be able to recover if something breaks from backup. Am I right?
[14:00] <Paddy_NI> k1l, That is irrelevant
[14:00] <k1l> Paddy_NI: no.
[14:00] <Paddy_NI> yes
[14:00] <Paddy_NI> nosey people...
[14:00] <k1l> Paddy_NI: because if it doesnt need a desktop then there is no need for desktop and no need for that whole keyring setup
[14:00] <Paddy_NI> k1l, Ah yes
[14:01] <Paddy_NI> I require the desktop for somethings and not for others
[14:01] <blackflow> dinosaur: in theory, yes. but since that's a VM, better make a copy of the disk image file on the host, before you proceed.
[14:01] <k1l> Paddy_NI: ok, i am done with you. good luck with your "i know all better than you" attitude and good luck in solving that issue
[14:01] <Paddy_NI> So it is required as an option
[14:01] <dinosaur> blackflow: once I tried it. I broke it on purpose. And it was impossible to recover...
[14:01] <blackflow> dinosaur: with rsync or a copy of the disk image file?
[14:01] <dinosaur> blackflow: yes
[14:02] <blackflow> dinosaur: lol
[14:02] <dinosaur> blackflow: with rsync
[14:02] <Paddy_NI> k1l, I am sorry I'm just sick of fatuous quibbling with people who can either A) answer the question or B) Not answer the question
[14:02] <dinosaur> blackflow: with rsync made to another disk
[14:02] <Paddy_NI> Those that cannot but insist on pulling threads just serve to annoy
[14:02] <blackflow> dinosaur: you should do that from the single user mode
[14:02] <Paddy_NI> I do and have appreciated your help k1l
[14:03] <blackflow> dinosaur: if you're using rsync, that is, and don't sync /dev, /proc or /sys
[14:03] <blackflow> dinosaur: but really, the best course of action is to back up the VM disk image file (while it's off)
[14:04] <LiceoProva> ciao
[14:04] <LiceoProva> !list
[14:04] <dinosaur> blackflow: I tried it in a lot of ways. It complained something about not being able to load the kernel or being unable to load GRUB. As far as I know, it is not even possible to sync with /dev/, /proc/ or /sync because you will run out of space. But if you're interested I can replay this scenario, just not right now.
[14:05] <lyze> Hello :) Could it be that some austrian ubuntu ppa's are down?
[14:05] <LiceoProva> ciao
[14:05] <dinosaur> blackflow: I tried to recover GRUB using Ubuntu Server Installation CD. It failed.
[14:05] <dinosaur> blackflow: aha, then tried something else, and it allowed me to do something more, but the system was still not fully recovered.
[14:05] <blackflow> dinosaur: I'm sure it can be done, you don't have to repeat it :) you probably done something worng
[14:06] <blackflow> dinosaur: but really, just copy the VM disk image
[14:07] <dinosaur> do you have a good rsync command for backing the system up? It's hard to google for me, because my hardware resources are limited
[14:08] <blackflow> dinosaur: not really, just rsyncing root and excluding the dev, sys and proc, but keep in mind that only does the files, it won't sync the bootloader
[14:08] <lyze> dinosaur, arch wiki: rsync -aAXv --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} /* /path/to/backup/folder
[14:10] <blackflow> dinosaur: and of course, exclude the /path/to/backup/folder too :)
[14:11] <dinosaur> blackflow: it is still going through /proc filesystem
[14:12] <lyze> can sb confirm my question? :)
[14:13] <dinosaur> lyze: confirm a question?
[14:13] <lyze> "Could it be that some austrian ubuntu ppa's are down"
[14:13] <qwerty1> Can anyone help on creating a launcher icon; when the file has to be run by "./mendel.sh" command? -> What should I write to .desktop file
[14:14] <blackflow> dinosaur: pastebin your rsync command
[14:15] <lyze> qwerty1, http://pastebin.com/tuyABVG1
[14:16] <bullium> I need to create a USB boot disk from a Mac. I will not be installing Ubuntu on my Mac, but on a PC. What would the easiest way to get that done?
[14:17] <lyze> bullium, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[14:19] <bullium> lyze, I've found that link, but the USB drive would be meant to be used to install on a mac
[14:20] <fuzzybear3965> clear
[14:20] <fuzzybear3965> ^ignore
[14:21] <fuzzybear3965> I am having some wake-from-suspend issues.
[14:21] <fuzzybear3965> Can anyone give me a hand?
[14:21] <blackflow> fuzzybear3965: someone could, if you specified your problem
[14:21] <phre4k> fuzzybear3965: describe your issues and wait for someone to reply, 1700 users are certainly not responding with "I do!"
[14:22] <fuzzybear3965> I currently have my system set to suspend after 20 minutes of inactivity.
[14:22] <phre4k> fuzzybear3965: which desktop environment?