[04:32] <ZykoticK9> harpreet_, install another one - then log out and at the GDM login screen select "change session" or something to that effect
[04:32] <fryguy> harpreet_: export WINDOW_MANAGER in recent versions of gnome, or stop running gnome-session altogether and specify a different session type to run in gdm
[04:33] <RunSky> how much time it needs to compile the qt4.5?
[04:33] <hoohaah> harpreet_: update-alternatives x-window-manager
[04:33] <fryguy> RunSky: depends on your machine, probably a couple of hours
[04:33] <iam1721292934> If I would like to suggest a package upgrade in the repo's to match what the code's project is actually versioned at, due to a bug in the current ubuntu version, but not the up-to-date version, what's the most efficient way to report this.
[04:33] <spool32> spool32> I need some assistance setting up a DLink WDA-1320 wireless-G nic on Ubintu 8.0.4.
 ifconfig recognizes the device, iwconfig reports that it can see the SSID and the AP, I've added a key for it in both ascii and hex, but no matter what I try I can't get it to receive a dhcp address
[04:33] <fryguy> iam1721292934: launchpad
[04:33] <hoohaah> harpreet_: update-alternatives --config x-window-manager
[04:34] <harpreet_> ZykoticK9: fryguy: hoohaah: thank you all, i'll try and be back
[04:34] <donald_> hoohaah, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf?
[04:34] <iam1721292934> fryguy: report a bug there?
[04:34] <hoohaah> donald_: that'll work
[04:35] <hoohaah> donald_: are you sure your realtek doesn't support hda?
[04:35] <fryguy> hoohaah: it does
[04:35] <rizha07> cewek butuh duit
[04:35] <donald_> i appended it
[04:35] <donald_> now i restart?
[04:35] <hoohaah> donald_: what did you append?
[04:35] <fryguy> donald_: just use rmmmod
[04:35] <donald_> i put in
[04:35] <donald_> "blacklist snd_hda_codec_atihdmi"
[04:35] <donald_> without quotes
[04:36] <ZykoticK9> donald_, rmmod isn't permanent - you would need to blacklist to have it survive reboots
[04:36] <donald_> okay I blacklisted it
[04:36] <fryguy> ZykoticK9: read up about 10 lines..
[04:36] <donald_> I restart for it to take effect, correct?
[04:36] <fryguy> donald_: just rmmod
[04:37] <donald_> fryguy, I'm new to Ubuntu, I dont know how to rmmod
[04:37] <fryguy> donald_: sudo rmmod snd_hda_codec_atihdmi
[04:37] <iam1721292934> doesn't that need an absolute path
[04:37] <fryguy> no
[04:37] <donald_> ERROR: Module snd_hda_codec_atihdmi does not exist in /proc/modules
[04:38] <hoohaah> no, rmmod or modprobe both have a path set
[04:38] <fryguy> donald_: lsmod, is it listed
[04:38] <user01> is there a way to have a menu at boot time that has an option for a different wireless config?
[04:38] <hoohaah> i don't think the codec is listed as it's own module
[04:38] <donald_> I already blacklisted and saved the blacklist.conf file
[04:38] <donald_> Can I just restart and hope its fixed?
[04:38] <fryguy> hoohaah: it's a driver, not a codec
[04:38] <fryguy> donald_: no
[04:38] <fryguy> donald_: lsmod and see if it's listed
[04:39] <donald_> fryguy, its not listed
[04:39] <Jordan_U> Eric_K: Did you get my last message about nouveau ?
[04:39] <hoohaah> donald_: welcome to *nix, where a reboot is often not needed to fix a problem :)
[04:39] <fryguy> donald_: lsmod | grep ati, what is listed for sound
[04:40] <donald_> snd_hda_codec_atihdmi is not listed under lsmod
[04:40] <fryguy> donald_: yah we already know that
[04:40] <fryguy> what is listed
[04:40] <donald_> would you like a pastebin link?
[04:40] <hoohaah> donald_: not everything
[04:40] <hoohaah> donald_: yes
[04:41] <ZykoticK9> donald_, lsmod lists the module that are currently loaded - if your atihdmi isn't listed , it means it's not loaded as a module (could be build into kernel, and you wouldn't see it - but i doubt it is)
[04:41] <donald_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/184094/
[04:41] <hoohaah> donald_: how did you determine that the ati hdmi driver was at fault?
[04:41] <donald_> i didn't - fryguy suggested it was
[04:42] <hoohaah> lo and behold, it's not even loaded
[04:42] <rizha07> dika
[04:42] <hoohaah> donald_: your onboard realtek device uses hda_intel?
[04:42] <donald_> hoohaah: any suggestions to fix my problem?
[04:42] <donald_> yes
[04:42] <ZykoticK9> donald_, atihdmi is not your problem - it's not currently loaded
[04:42] <donald_> on Ubuntu it does
[04:42] <hoohaah> donald_: and sound is working properly?
[04:42] <donald_> On Windows XP I use Realtek drivers
[04:43] <donald_> sound is NOT working at all
[04:43] <donald_> There is no sound whatsoever
[04:43] <hoohaah> donald_: any sound whatsoever?
[04:43] <hoohaah> donald_: unmuted channels?
[04:43] <ericdb> Ligatures ("fi", "ff", "fl") don't render correctly on my 8.10 install (they look a little smaller and lighter than the surrounding text). It happens with Deja Vu Sans, which is used in a lot of places on my desktop, and a few other fonts...but not in OpenOffice with the same fonts, oddly.  Any suggestions on how to troubleshoot this?
[04:43] <hoohaah> donald_: was this setup ever working in the past?
[04:44] <donald_> hoohaah: i just installed Ubuntu like 1 hr ago
[04:44] <hoohaah> donald_: alsamixer
[04:44] <donald_> and it hasn't worked since I've installed
[04:44] <hoohaah> donald_: are you in the audio group?
[04:45] <donald_> I dont know
[04:45] <donald_> lol
[04:45] <hoohaah> donald_: btw, this becoming more and more like a generic alsa question - whose answer lies on the many guides on the internet
[04:45] <hoohaah> donald_: eg. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml
[04:45] <Jordan_U_> ericdb: System > Preferences > Appearance > fonts > advanced, make sure if you have an LCD it is set for LCD, and opposite for CRT
[04:45] <hoohaah> and I'm sure there's an Ubuntu one somewhere
[04:45] <donald_> In alsamixer, it says "card: hda intel" and "chip: realtek alc888"
[04:45] <donald_> nothing is muted, hoohaah
[04:45] <donald_> I'm certain
[04:46] <hoohaah> are all channels maxed?
[04:46] <donald_> yes
[04:46] <iam1721292934> how far upstream can you go? doesn't the river eventually run out? i think there needs to be new terminology. upstream sounds weird.. too corporate, or something
[04:46] <hoohaah> donald_: included "Front" ?
[04:46] <spool32> I need some assistance setting up a DLink WDA-1320 wireless-G nic on Ubuntu 8.0.4.
[04:46] <donald_> hoohaah: yes
[04:46] <spool32>  ifconfig recognizes the device, iwconfig reports that it can see the SSID and the AP, I've added a key for it in both ascii and hex, but no matter what I try I can't get it to receive a dhcp address
[04:46] <hoohaah> donald_: and how are you trying to playback audio?
[04:46] <Artichoke200> NO U CHANSERV
[04:46] <donald_> I was trying with an .mp3 file
[04:47] <ericdb> Jordan_U_: It is set for LCD, not CRT and subpixel hinting is working properly.
[04:47] <donald_> hoohaah: when I go to System > Preferences > Sound and click "Test" it says Testing and Click OK to finish
[04:47] <Pici> !offtopic
[04:47] <donald_> and there is no sound
[04:47] <Artichoke200> NO U
[04:47] <donald_> Its set on "Sound playback: autodetect"
[04:47] <Pici> Artichoke200: Please stop.
[04:48] <hoohaah> donald_: is this spdif output?
[04:48] <donald_> I dont even know what spdif is, hoohaah
[04:48] <donald_> as I said I am still new and learning
[04:48] <hoohaah> aplay --list-devices
[04:48] <ericdb> Jordan_U_: It's actually drawing some pairs of letters a bit too small.  I type "f", and it looks normal, but then I type "i", and I actually see it shrink.
[04:48] <fryguy> why won't anybody listen to me
[04:48] <fryguy> you need to disable the ATI sound
[04:48] <Artichoke200> Pic: NO U
[04:48] <donald_> fryguy, its not even loaded as a module
[04:48] <fryguy> more specifically, make alsa try to detect the other soudn first
[04:49] <fryguy> donald_: it uses the same driver as hda_intel
[04:49] <iam1721292934> if someone's having trouble with their sound i would rec. trying installing pulseaudio..
[04:49] <iam1721292934> especially in 9.04
[04:49] <donald_> hoohaah: there are three listed: alc888 analog, alc888 digital, and ati hdmi
[04:49] <hoohaah> donald_: well I initially suggesting changing the dfault audio device to realtek
[04:49] <artistxe> anyone here using Vesa drivers as a workaround for an ATI radeon card ?
[04:49] <ZykoticK9> iam1721292934, with 8.10 & 9.04 i think pulseaudio is the default and should already be installed
[04:49] <hoohaah> *suggested
[04:49] <donald_> fryguy: can you suggest how to disable ati hdmi?
[04:49] <iam1721292934> not always
[04:50] <iam1721292934> i had an xubuntu where it wasnt
[04:50] <fryguy> donald_: like i told you when you first asked the question, i did this on another machine and don't have the machine in front of me, so you'll have to google
[04:50] <ZykoticK9> iam1721292934, xubuntu might be differenet this is #ubuntu
[04:50] <donald_> hoohaah, in system > preferences > sound I set the card to hda intel alc888 (analog and digital) (ALSA) and neither test provided sound
[04:50] <hoohaah> donald_: try to output to device manually. First, pastebin output of cat /proc/asound/cards
[04:50] <jamiejackson> speaking of problems with sound, i have MB with onboard sound: Realtek ALC650 http://hardware4linux.info/module/VIA_82xx_Audio/ says i need VIA_82xx_Audio module. is that right? if so, how do i get that. if not, what am i supposed to do to enable this audio card?
[04:51] <dan> hello
[04:51] <fryguy> donald_: ignore that, you need to fix the underlying problem before that dialog means anything
[04:51] <dan> I need technical help
[04:51] <hoohaah> donald_: sorry, I don't use Gnome nor KDE on my system
[04:51] <artistxe> jamiejackson, you are getting no sound at all ?
[04:51] <donald_> in fact, its telling me this error when i try hda intel alc888 analog & digital (ALSA): audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback.
[04:51] <hoohaah> donald_: who knows what voodoo those DEs employ to get sound
[04:51] <ZykoticK9> jamiejackson, you could basically follow along with the suggestions being given to donald_
[04:51] <dan> I'm getting no sound
[04:52] <iam1721292934> dan do you have pulseaudio installed
[04:52] <donald_> It says "Could not open audio device for playback."
[04:52] <dan> <--- epc1000he ununtu netbook remix
[04:52] <rockman> 大家好
[04:52] <rockman> 没人？
[04:52] <jamiejackson> okay, ZykoticK9. no sound, artistxe (actually screechy low noise). don't think the card was detected.
[04:52] <dan> idk pulse audio
[04:52] <hoohaah> fryguy: good luck. If it's anything to do with a sound daemon on top of alsa, I haven't the foggiest
[04:52] <rockman> 什么？
[04:52] <hoohaah> lunch time
[04:53] <Flannel> !cn | rockman
[04:53] <jamiejackson> noting in /proc/asound/cards, btw
[04:53] <hoohaah> donald_: sorry. I'm not availaable for a while
[04:53] <jamiejackson> *nothing*
[04:53] <iam1721292934> dan: type in terminal :    dpkg -l pulseaudio
[04:53] <dan> english please
[04:53] <dan> 1 sec
[04:53] <donald_> fryguy: i am brand new to ubuntu and linux altogether. i do not know how to disable ati hdmi and i do not know what to search for on google.
[04:54] <artistxe> jamiejackson, just realized I have pulseaudio installed here. realtek also . that may be your solution ( although I do not remember choosing that package )
[04:54] <iam1721292934> dan: if it says   ...  un pulseaudio ....  then you don't,   ... ii pulseaudio .... then you do
[04:54] <artistxe> video ... ATI ... vesa drivers. anyone ?
[04:54] <jamiejackson> artistxe: what's that package name, do you know?
[04:54] <artistxe> pulseaudio :)
[04:55] <dan> ok
[04:55] <dan> dan@dan-netbook:~$ dpkg -l pulseaudio
[04:55] <dan> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[04:55] <dan> | Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[04:55] <dan> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[04:55] <dan> ||/ Name                      Version                   Description
[04:55] <dan> +++-[04:55] <FloodBot3> dan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:55] <artistxe> synaptic if you must
[04:55] <rizha05_> cewrk butuh duit
[04:55] <jamiejackson> dpkg -l pulseaudio shows it installed (ii) for me, btw
[04:55] <iam1721292934> dan only the last line is important
[04:55] <dan> sorry, i have no idea what i'm doing
[04:56] <jamiejackson> artistxe: no, i have pulseaudio already, but i don't think i have whatever module i'm supposed to have for the card
[04:57] <casperfoo> k
[04:57] <casperfoo> oops
[04:57] <eric__> Is there any way I can see a list of the channels on irc.freenode.net?
[04:58] <thehoodinternet> eric__: did you do /list
[04:58] <casperfoo> account list
[04:59] <burvowski> Hi, is it possible/easy to have more than one Ubuntu liveCD on a single usb flash drive? I have a 4 gig drive. Could I, say, put Ubuntu 9.04 on half of it, and Crunchbang on the other half? Would I be able to boot of one or the other at will?
[04:59] <oDuda> hello all ! i need to setup a dialup at ubuntu 9.04 somebody ?
[04:59] <rdw200169> jamiejackson, have you checked you sound preferences, and tried ALSA?  if ALSA works, you problem is something other than the sound card.  This is because Pulseaudio uses alsa for the hardware layer
[04:59] <jamiejackson> yeah, you can do multi-distro usb sticks, burvowski
[05:00] <burvowski> jamiejackson do i just create two different partitions on the flash and that's that?
[05:00] <jamiejackson> burvowski: i don't remember exactly, but that's part of the gist
[05:00] <dan> what is ALSA?
[05:00] <burvowski> cool i'll give it a shot
[05:00] <rdw200169> dan, advance linux sound architecture.  its the link between the sound card, and the software
[05:00] <jamiejackson> there are howtos out there for multidistro usb sticks, afaik, burvowski
[05:01] <mikeh789> I'm having clipboard issues with vnc, what do you guys do??
[05:01] <rdw200169> dan, there used to be OSS, but we don't use that anymore in ubuntu
[05:01] <jamiejackson> rdw200169: i've tried all the architectures, i think my card was never detected tho
[05:01] <dan> thanks rdw
[05:01] <jamiejackson> mikeh789: try the older rdp version (4?)
[05:02] <mikeh789> jamiejackson, will do
[05:02] <artistxe> burvowski  http://people.ofset.org/~ckhung/p/mk-boot-usb/index.php
[05:02] <jamiejackson> i know that tsclient had a mixup where you'd select rdp and it'd actually do v4, but picking rdp4 would actually do 5, mikeh789
[05:02] <jamiejackson> and the clipboard works better with one than the other
[05:02] <Caleb101> Hi people
[05:02] <intx> how do I measure cluster speed in linux? (e.g. 1k 2k 4k 8k 16k 32k)
[05:02] <Caleb101> I need some help
[05:02] <marcelo__> hoooooooolaaaaaaaaa
[05:03] <oDuda> hello all ! i need to setup a dialup at ubuntu 9.04 somebody ?
[05:03] <rdw200169> jamiejackson, do you get anything when you type 'asoundconf list'?
[05:03] <jamiejackson> oh, sorry mikeh789, i read rdp instead of vnc, so my advice will steer you astray. don't remember if my clipboard works with the tsclient vnc or not
[05:03] <Caleb101> Is there a tool to put an ubuntu distro onto my USB?
[05:03] <iam1721292934> Caleb101: yep
[05:03] <jamiejackson> nothing with that command, rdw200169
[05:04] <mikeh789> jamiejackson, I'm just trying to copy remote to local
[05:04] <bwild> jamiejackson: vnc uses the rdp protocol
[05:04] <rdw200169> jamiejackson, yeah, thats a bad sign :(
[05:04] <dan> It says Intel
[05:04] <Caleb101> iam1721292934:What is it?
[05:04] <mikeh789> and its in the f8 menu, ut it doen't work
[05:04] <dan> asoundconf list = Intel
[05:04] <jamiejackson> i can throw a card  in here, but i'd rather not. what's it mean when it won't even detect, rdw200169?
[05:04] <ZykoticK9> Caleb101, on 9.04 System / Administration / USB Startup Disk Creater
[05:04] <rdw200169> dan, are you also having sound problems?
[05:05] <Caleb101> Im 8.10?
[05:05] <pw-toxic> hi - can someone help me with installing the java servlet library for eclipse?
[05:05] <pw-toxic> i just dont know what to do..
[05:05] <dan> yes! sound prbs here
[05:05] <rdw200169> jamiejackson, chances are the kernel is having problems detecting your sound card.  from here, you're going to have to dig pretty deep.  there may be a little help in /var/log/syslog
[05:05] <dan> no sounds at all
[05:05] <Gain> any good dock/widget applications?
[05:05] <telaviv> hello i'm having a problem with opengl. This bug report states that i can use the old Hardy Heron version of opengl. How would i find that?
[05:05] <rdw200169> jamiejackson, do you know anything about your card?  model/manufacturer etc...?
[05:05] <pw-toxic> i have installed the libservlet2.5-java  but within eclipse   the HttpServlet cant be found...
[05:06] <jamiejackson> pw-toxic: maybe you'll have more luck in #eclipse?
[05:06] <telaviv> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/318043
[05:06] <pw-toxic> jamiejackson, well they can tell me how to do it in windows ;)
[05:06] <rdw200169> dan, first thing you do, before anything else, is make sure the levels are up.  double click on the sound volume icon in your taskbar thing, this pulls up the volume control window
[05:06] <jamiejackson> oh well, i've gotten good ubuntu support for eclipse there. bad time of day i guess
[05:06] <dan> I haven't jioned launchpad
[05:07] <dan> ok, volume 100%
[05:07] <rdw200169> dan, whoops, i forgot they changed that in 9.04. right click and select volume control
[05:07] <bwild> Caleb101: um maybe syslinux -sf /dev/sdx1
[05:07] <jamiejackson> rdw200169: the mb supposedly has Realtek ALC650 aboard
[05:07] <pw-toxic> jamiejackson,  maybe i should just take my pc and throw it out of the windows ;)
[05:07] <WIGGMPk> Anyone have any luck with installing gfxboot on a ext4 /boot partition in Jaunty?
[05:07] <Caleb101> ZykoticK9: But i want my usb to be a portable ubuntu, not a live cd. I want to be able to save my settings, without having to reconfigure whenever i reboot
[05:07] <dan> ok
[05:07] <rdw200169> dan, now, click preferences, and make sure *all* the options are checked
[05:07] <rdw200169> jamiejackson, step one is to google that with 'ubuntu' and see what comes up
[05:08] <telaviv> does anyone know how to get the hardy heron version of libGL.so.1.2 ?
[05:08] <rdw200169> dan, its possible that something as simple as a hidden volume control is all the way down.  for some reason, this is a very common problem
[05:08] <bwild> rdw200169: like this? http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-x-ubuntu-610/
[05:08] <dan> ALC269
[05:08] <ZykoticK9> can someone throw up the !whatever for Caleb101 on persistant USB?
[05:08] <Caleb101> !whatever Caleb101
[05:08] <rdw200169> bwild, i think you got the wrong one ;)
[05:09] <Caleb101> :P
[05:09] <axisys> i went back to ff 3.0.10 and youtube now has sound
[05:09] <jamiejackson> oh, one thing that slipped my mind, but shouldn't have, rdw200169 i did find a driver online for the thing, but i think i was looking for something native. i'll just go that route, then. i'm multitasking and temporarily forgot about that avenue
[05:09] <rdw200169> jamiejackson, if that doesn't come up with anything useful, try googling the model of the motherboard.
[05:09] <greato> Hello! I want to download complete ubuntu for my 32-bit computer
[05:09] <iam1721292934> no it only comes in 8bit
[05:10] <fryguy> greato: www.ubuntu.com
[05:10] <greato> I already opened it
[05:10] <mezquitale> is there a channel for networking???
[05:10] <rdw200169> jamiejackson, one of the good things about ubuntu, is that its likely someone else already had and solved your problem ;)
[05:10] <onexused> greato: Hello!  ubuntu.com
[05:10] <jamiejackson> pw-toxic: what are you trying to do to eclipse again?
[05:10] <fryguy> greato: installation media is available for download there
[05:10] <iam1721292934> Caleb101: try apt-cache search usb | grep install
[05:10] <rdw200169> dan, any luck?
[05:10] <Jordan_U_> Caleb101: How large is your drive?
[05:10] <FOXDIE_> greato: You will need to grab the 32bit iso of Jaunty
[05:10] <Caleb101> 4gb
[05:10] <rdw200169> mezquitale, I can help you
[05:10] <Caleb101> Toshiba
[05:10] <dan> Why does it show 5 mixers? that'a crazy, I only have one sound output device
[05:10] <pw-toxic> jamiejackson, i think it's not an eclipse problem anyway.. i just want to be able to import any javax.servlet.* library
[05:11] <rdw200169> dan, just focus on, likely, the Front, PCM, and Master volume meters
[05:11] <mezquitale> rdw200169, what use would it be to log in to someone else's router and place a static route in the router settings???
[05:11] <pw-toxic> and i thought installing libservlet2.5-java from the package manager should do this.. but it doesnt help
[05:11] <pedrinhobrito> heu im drunk. doens any oen kneo any commando that wll make me get no hangonver tomorro?
[05:11] <jamiejackson> pw-toxic: so do you have the jars downloaded?
[05:11] <rdw200169> dan, i'm assuming that you're plugged into the Front jack
[05:11] <dan> ok
[05:11] <pw-toxic> jamiejackson,  what jars?!
[05:11] <fryguy> pedrinhobrito: water
[05:11] <rdw200169> mezquitale, static routes are somewhat useful, but usually unnecessary
[05:11] <bwild> rdw200169: kk; how about? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTRXerYTDbo
[05:11] <greato> hello! anyone here have ubuntu latest version so that I can download from their machine using torrent but privately
[05:11] <dan> it has built in speakers, good ones too
[05:12] <FOXDIE_> greato: http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ubuntu-8.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[05:12] <rdw200169> dan, generally, those are tied to the Front
[05:12] <git__> i'm coming to recognize Real Player is the only true player in Linux
[05:12] <jamiejackson> actually, pw-toxic, those are just part of eclipse, right (assuming you do the j2ee installation of it)?
[05:12] <fryguy> git__: lol
[05:12] <mezquitale> rdw200169, ok well for what purpose you would put a static route in a router?
[05:12] <greato> Foxdie is it latest version
[05:12] <FOXDIE_> greato: Yes
[05:12] <git__> the rest is pretty mediocre
[05:13] <greato> ok i am on ubuntu website
[05:13] <fryguy> mezquitale: when you want to communicate with another router and you aren't sending routes to the other router via rip, ospf, or another routing protocol
[05:13] <greato> which country should I choose
[05:13] <pw-toxic> jamiejackson, yes i have the j2ee installation of it, but eclipse is just a set of tools to support the development..  java itself is not a part of eclipse
[05:13] <FOXDIE_> greato: If you tell me what country your in I can give you a closer server!
[05:13] <pedrinhobrito> fryguy it says comando not ggound
[05:13] <mezquitale> git__, real player? LoL you need to try rhythmbox
[05:13] <jamiejackson> pw-toxic: are you using sun's java, or that gcj stuff?
[05:14] <rdw200169> mezquitale, basically, static routing involves manually mangling the routing table, for linking up WAN networks.  Nowadays, this is primarily taken care of by OSPF, ISIS, etc... because they are adaptive protocols.
[05:14]  * git__ checks out rhythmbox
[05:14] <greato> hello! what is the total size of ubuntu
[05:14] <fryguy> greato: what do you mean by "total size?"
[05:14] <rdw200169> mezquitale, if you need to route to *different* networks, use static routing.  for example, if you need <IP_ADDRESS>/24 and <IP_ADDRESS>/24 to talk to each other.  *then* you would use static routing.
[05:14] <usser> greato, install cd?
[05:14] <greato> no DVD
[05:14] <pw-toxic> jamiejackson, suns's
[05:14] <usser> greato, 4 gigs
[05:15] <greato> but the iso file is showing only 689 MB
[05:15] <fryguy> greato: installation media fits on a CD, so < 800mb, standard install is around 3 gb, a "total" install of EVERYTHING is hundreds of gigs
[05:15] <FOXDIE_> greato: Can your PC boot from a USB
[05:15] <mezquitale> rdw200169,  ok well some idiot keeps logging in to my router and placing a static route to some naval server
[05:15] <pw-toxic> jamiejackson, if i do javac ASDF.java  he tells me the same problem: he cant find javax.servlet.*
[05:15] <Flannel> fryguy: not hundreds.  Dozens.
[05:15] <thehoodinternet> i believe i am seeing the highest wifi speeds ever
[05:16] <greato> ok I am going to download ubuntu whose iso file size is 698 MB so is it DVD version or CD version
[05:16] <fryguy> Flannel: i'm pretty sure installing every package in base/universe/multiverse is going to be more than 200gb
[05:16] <fryguy> greato: cd
[05:16] <thehoodinternet> greato either or
[05:16] <rdw200169> mezquitale, you put up with that?  I think your problems are a little bigger than a simple static route !
[05:16] <pedrinhobrito> fryguy it says comando not ggound
[05:16] <Ninja2k> hey I've got a quick question. I'm using an acer Aspire one netbook with 9.04 ubuntu one it. problem plenty of windows run off the bottom of the screen. In the past. I would just alt+click the window and move it up, it seems to be a stopping at the top bar now and won't go past it
[05:16] <Ninja2k> any ideas
[05:16] <raden> can someone tell me how diffrent gnome is i been using kde forever
[05:16] <GW76> hi ppl i have a question, how do i find out if my X server is running? im trying to install a video card driver that i got from its site but when i try to install it it says that i have X Server running
[05:16] <fryguy> raden: try it and see
[05:17] <ZykoticK9> Ninja2k, try disable compiz and see if you can drag it above (i bet you will)
[05:17] <fryguy> GW76: why are you using a driver from outside of ubuntu
[05:17] <Ninja2k> raden: more light weight
[05:17] <bart_> guys i just happened to try the k environment on my ubuntu desktop and to be true it's fantastic i was kind of wondering why kubuntu is less popular than ubuntu
[05:17] <Ninja2k> okay let me try that
[05:17] <rdw200169> GW76, ps -AF | grep X
[05:17] <dan> darn it, nothing yet
[05:17]  * raden sitting here installing distro dont know if i should go KDE or gnome
[05:17] <Darn> ?
[05:17] <rdw200169> dan, do you have it set to use PulseAudio or ALSA?
[05:17] <fryguy> bart_: because ubuntu came first and is more publicly marketted
[05:17] <unko> can someone help me with my installation? here's my output: http://pastie.org/494737
[05:17] <onexused> raden: You can always install the other one later
[05:17] <Ninja2k> gnome if you want performances
[05:17] <GW76> fryguy its not outside ubuntu its for linux and its the latest driver for my card since the one from ubuntu is not really the latest one
[05:17] <pedrinhobrito> raden, go xfce
[05:17] <usser> bart_, because kde is buggy and too windows like
[05:18] <fryguy> raden: it's easy enough to switch between them, so it doesn't really matter
[05:18] <mezquitale> rdw200169, it hasnt happened in the past week or so, I dont know  how they are able to get in to my router, I changed the password and all, i was wondering why they would want to have a static route to a naval server???  i wasn't able to view google and other web pages with that static route in linksys router
[05:18] <dan> HDA Intel ALSA
[05:18] <WIGGMPk> raden: I would say Gnome because its sleek compared to KDE but KDE offers more functionality.
[05:18] <raden> fryguy, i can install both ?
[05:18] <fryguy> GW76: ubuntu provides drivers for you, integrated with the package management system, use those
[05:18] <fryguy> raden: yes
[05:18] <onexused> raden: Yes, as well as several others : )
[05:18] <raden> WIGGMPk, more functionality how ?
[05:18] <Ninja2k> interesting.
[05:18] <greato> hello! I need full version of ubuntu
[05:18] <Ninja2k> it works
[05:18] <greato> I don't want LIVE CD of ubuntu
[05:18] <fryguy> greato: the livecd IS the full version
[05:18] <greato> I  want complete ubuntu
[05:18] <greato> ok thx
[05:18] <WIGGMPk> raden: it just has more things readily available.. maybe functionality was a bad word..
[05:18] <onexused> greato: You install the full version from the liveCD
[05:19] <ZykoticK9> Ninja2k, it's a know bug with some versions of compiz - don't know the fix, sorry
[05:19] <rdw200169> mezquitale, generally, static routes are used to link up two routers, without having NAT in the middle, in off-the-shelf brand routers
[05:19] <hoohaah> greato: installation packages are contained within cd, and can be obtained remotely
[05:19] <thehoodinternet> 1.2 MB/s - wifi - ktorrent -  ubuntu 9.04
[05:19] <bart_> the live cd contains the complete ubuntu distro and installation means greato
[05:19] <raden> WIGGMPk, allows you to control more so to speak ?
[05:19] <GW76> fryguy im trying to get the latest and i know it does but the version ubunut is giving me is not the latest..
[05:19] <pw-toxic> jamiejackson,  i have installed some jave_ee_SDK which is maybe the solution
[05:19] <Ninja2k> maybe I should try to put it back and enable modules one at a time and seeing which is being the problem
[05:19] <fryguy> GW76: why do you need the latest?
[05:19] <WIGGMPk> raden: I was proposed with the same complex once. The only satisfaction I found was to try both and make a decision on my own thoughts
[05:20] <mezquitale> bart_, i like ubuntu better because it's tons FASTER than KDE, i used to use kubuntu and resisted using gnome but for my gaming  ubuntu helps a lot so i used gnome and never looked back
[05:20] <Ninja2k> anyways, at least that gets me running again!
[05:20] <pw-toxic> jamiejackson,  it is installed in opt/SDK/ ... but i dont know how i could use it
[05:20] <fryguy> GW76: upgrading for no reason is asking for trouble, and using drivers outside the scope of ubuntu is just going to give you maintenance problems
[05:20] <raden> WIGGMPk, which one you use and are you a home or business user etc ?
[05:20] <Ninja2k> Thank you all!
[05:20] <GW76> cause im trying to see if that will make me play runescape on hd which i am having problems playing it
[05:20] <WIGGMPk> raden: yes. Gnome allows you to control everything, but it might take more to get the control, where as KDE is just jammed packed with settings control
[05:20] <BeatlesFan> hi, can anybody sort of walk me through setting up access to a network drive via vpnc ?
[05:20] <mezquitale> rdw200169, thank you for the help, ever heard of back doors in routers??
[05:21] <rdw200169> mezquitale, for example, in a linksys wireless router, the static route is directly involved with the 'broadband' port; this would be used to have a second layer lan network behind the first connected to the internet via NAT.  it allows all traffic to pass between the first and second without hiding the IP addresses behind NAT.  The reason Linksys routers do this is so that you have the option.  most people, though, in that situation ju
[05:21] <rdw200169> st use the linksys router as a switch, and bypass having to set up a second network just to extend their services
[05:21] <WIGGMPk> raden: I use Gnome, I am both home and business.. Its sleek, simple, and well thought out. But again, I urge, almost beg you to try both and get a feel for each and make a decision based on how you like them..
[05:21] <dan> would Pulse Audio be better?
[05:21] <fryguy> dan: no
[05:21] <rdw200169> mezquitale, thus, DHCP, etc..., would piggyback through the second linksys wireless router-made-switch to the first
[05:22] <rdw200169> dan, you're not getting anything from alsa?
[05:22] <bart_> well but kubuntu can be great for a linux first timer i guess would certainly make him feel more at home
[05:22] <fryguy> rdw200169: that's a terrible example of static routes, and a terrible example of network topology
[05:22] <WIGGMPk> raden: the best thing I have learned about Linux and the display managers is choose.. You can ask everyone's opinion on a specific program, tool, broswer, or window manager, and everyone will like something else for some reason.. You should formulate the decision for yourself though
[05:22] <rdw200169> dan, the trick here is, alsa *must* work or pulseaudio never will.  pulseaudio runs *on top of* alsa
[05:22] <mezquitale> rdw200169,  thanks again for all the info, now it's time to frag in UrT, im addicted to that thing!  LoL
[05:23] <rdw200169> fryguy, why don't you *.  I gave a quick synopsis, and a lazy example.  I'm not an RFC.  more information, and better information can, and should, be found elsewhere.
[05:24] <BeatlesFan> anyone familiar with access to network drive via vpnc?
[05:25] <The_Mime> was ubuntu invented by umberto
[05:25] <hipitihop> can someone tell me how to setup remote mount(s) so that installed applications and corresponding packages do not use local hdd space ?
[05:25] <pedrinhobrito> fryguy, are you braisilia?
[05:25] <pedrinhobrito> brazilian
[05:25] <fryguy> hipitihop: just add the corresponding sshfs/nfs/samba mounts to /etc/fstab
[05:25] <fryguy> [pErry]: no
[05:25] <fryguy> pedrinhobrito: no
[05:25] <jamiejackson> pw-toxic: i think you need to install a j2ee app server maybe, like if you get glassfish, i think you'll be able to use that jar
[05:25] <marcelo__> helo
[05:25] <ZykoticK9> (it's after midnight EST so I can ask my once daily question again) does anyone have jscal working under 9.04?  it works fine under 8.10 but seems to have no effect on 9.04
[05:26] <pedrinhobrito> why not?
[05:26] <marcelo__> hello
[05:26] <jakuphl> hello. I have installed ubuntu on an external hard disk, but I get grub error 17 on boot
[05:26] <jakuphl> any ideas?
[05:26] <fryguy> jakuphl: you didn't install grub to the right location (or you didn't install it where you think you did)
[05:26] <hipitihop> fryguy: but I don't know where the system normal stores stuff e.g. if I do an apt-get install, where does it all go ?
[05:26] <jakuphl> yes, I removed the internal hdd before I installed
[05:26] <fryguy> hipitihop: /usr/
[05:26] <fryguy> hipitihop: and /var
[05:27] <lstarnes> hipitihop: check dpkg -L packagename
[05:27] <jakuphl> fryguy: so where should it otherwise go
[05:27] <fryguy> jakuphl: the other hard drive
[05:27] <jakuphl> fryguy:  I removed the internal hdd before I installed
[05:27] <fryguy> jakuphl: so now grub thinks that your internal hard drive is your external hard drive
[05:27] <hipitihop> fryguy: so I would need to mount to remote shares to /var and /usr equivalent ?
[05:27] <fryguy> and it's looking there
[05:27] <fryguy> hipitihop: yep
[05:27] <rdw200169> seems like every time i try to help someone in here some **ho*** finds himself compelled to be a grammar/semantics/concept/protocol/etc... nazi.  get over yourselves, and go outside or something.
[05:28] <lstarnes> hipitihop: that might not be very safe though
[05:28] <lstarnes> rdw200169: this isn't the place for making comments about how the channel is operated
[05:28] <jakuphl> fryguy: but... my internal hard drive is laying on my table, and it has been here the whole time
[05:28] <fryguy> hipitihop: if you are going to go that far though, just use bootp and run diskless
[05:28] <Pafs321> hi! i just updated my system, and with the new kernel (2.6.28-12), my webcam (microsoft VX-1000), i reinstalled the v4l driver, and it finds the webcam only problem is that the image is green, when i logged on the 2.6.28-11 version of the kernel it worked great.. anyone has an idea of what's going on?
[05:29] <dan> it's not working
[05:29] <rdw200169> lstarnes, thats fine.  i find myself coming here quite rarely anyway.
[05:29] <hipitihop> lstarnes: thanks at least cans ee where things go now.
[05:29] <fryguy> jakuphl: then ubuntu messed up installing grub, just reinstall it, follow one of the many guides available on the internet, in ubuntu forums, or on the ubuntu wiki
[05:29] <jakuphl> fryguy: thanks.. I will do some more digging.
[05:29] <lstarnes> hipitihop: you may also want to check the man page for the filesystem heirarchy (see "man hier")
[05:30] <hipitihop> fryguy: I currently have 9.04 fully installed on usb flash stick but only have about 1.1gb free so don't want user to go off and install stuff and quickly fill it up
[05:30] <dan> nada from alsa
[05:30] <selammm> .
[05:30] <dan> i didn't do it
[05:30] <hipitihop> lstarnes: thanks
[05:31] <dan> I'm using 9.04 and the audio doesn't work
[05:31] <JNSamuel> upgrade to hardy.
[05:31] <fryguy> JNSamuel: hardy is older than what he's using
[05:31] <hipitihop> fryguy: are you suggesting I'd be better off with bootp for such a setup, links ?
[05:32] <pedrinhobrito> fryguy, do you know how i can make an exponencial regression fitting from a data table in grace or gnuplot?
[05:32] <JNSamuel> exactly, somewhat more stable :)
[05:32] <spool32> I need some assistance setting up a DLink WDA-1320 wireless-G nic on Ubuntu 8.0.4.
[05:32] <spool32>  ifconfig recognizes the device, iwconfig reports that it can see the SSID and the AP, I've added a key for it in both ascii and hex, but no matter what I try I can't get it to receive a dhcp address
[05:32] <jared> anyone mind helping me with a sound problem on ubuntu 9.04?
[05:32] <spool32> Anyone?
[05:32] <fryguy> pedrinhobrito: nope, no idea why you'd ask me
[05:32] <JNSamuel> long term support, too.
[05:32] <pedrinhobrito> fryguy, you're the guy whos solving everyone's doubts tonight
[05:32] <hipitihop> jared: ask your question, if someone knows answer then they will respond
[05:32] <fryguy> hipitihop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[05:33] <fryguy> pedrinhobrito: i'm not solving any problems, i don't know anything, i just copy/paste people's questions into google and copy/paste the first result usually
[05:33] <pedrinhobrito> fryguy, really?
[05:33] <JNSamuel> lmfao
[05:33] <fryguy> pedrinhobrito: yes
[05:33] <fryguy> pedrinhobrito: i don't use ubuntu
[05:33] <spool32> nobody has a clue re: wireless cards.
[05:33] <spool32> ?
[05:34] <dan> hardy?
[05:34] <jared> my problem is that sound plays for default ubuntu sounds when i select them in sound theme, but for everything else on the OS sound quit working.. when I have a headset in I can hear myself talking via the mic but other than that sound doesn't work at all on the system- I've googled and tried playing with settings to no avail and I'm clueless as to why it doesn't work. I'm using standard jack speakers and/or a logitech premium usb headset 350, can anyo
[05:34] <jared> ne help?
[05:34] <pedrinhobrito> fryguy, what do you use? obs: im chocked
[05:34] <fryguy> pedrinhobrito: freebsd
[05:34] <dan> internet connection is acting bad too
[05:34] <F0XDIE> exit
[05:35] <hipitihop> lstarnes: fryguy: thanks for your help, I'll go and read up.
[05:35] <sighK> what up peoples
[05:35] <pedrinhobrito> fryguy, what are you doing here then? planning on migrating?
[05:35] <sighK> i think i have a good idea
[05:35] <fryguy> pedrinhobrito: migrate from freebsd to ubuntu? lol
[05:35] <sighK> any one wana hear
[05:35] <spool32> hey sigger
[05:35] <sighK> for ubuntu
[05:36] <spool32> erm sighK
[05:36] <hobbet1> I have a external WD 500 gig MYBOOK can somebody tell me if it is normal that it take longer for the computer startup in linux then when it is hooked up when i go into windows?
[05:36] <pedrinhobrito> fryguy,  whats so funny
[05:36] <pedrinhobrito> ?
[05:36] <ziroday> sighK: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com or #ubuntu-offtopic are probably better places :)
[05:36] <sighK> ok take a web browser, open source. strip out all protocol handlers
[05:36] <sighK> keep file
[05:36] <sighK> create a new one called exec
[05:36] <sighK> and have it run system commands
[05:36] <sighK> and render them as html
[05:36] <Apollo2366> Hey, why am I not getting voice on #defocus?
[05:36] <sighK> firefox-terminal
[05:36] <greato> anyone from India
[05:36] <sighK> or something
[05:37] <ziroday> Apollo2366: not the right place to ask
[05:37] <Chr|s> !enter | sighK
[05:37] <ziroday> greato: #ubuntu-in :)
[05:37] <greato> thx
[05:37] <Apollo2366> ziroday: where should I ask, then?
[05:37] <ziroday> sighK: I explained to you were to announce your idea
[05:37] <ziroday> Apollo2366: #freenode
[05:37] <Apollo2366> ziroday: mkay thanks.
[05:38] <sighK> .join #debian
[05:38] <spool32> I have a good idea too. Somebody could help me getting this damned WDA-1320 to receive a DHCP address, adn then I can move the jet-engine HP server off my desk. Right now th ekids are playing cat5-limbo with its connection to my router, and buying a longer ethernet cable just feels like fail.
[05:38] <whatvn> sorry for asking non-ubuntu question, is there any irc channel about network out there?
[05:39] <ziroday> whatvn: ##networking, and don't ask here as you know you're not meant to
[05:39] <greato> no indian replying in #ubuntu-in
[05:39] <ziroday> greato: you need to be patient
[05:39] <whatvn> ziroday: thanks
[05:39] <greato> ok
[05:39] <ziroday> spool32: I'll give it ago :). The wireless card is PCI?
[05:40] <spool32> ziroday: it is.
[05:40] <bullgard4> Does Empathy produce sounds at status events or not?
[05:40] <pedrinhobrito> someone tell me romantic stuff i could text to my gf
[05:40] <ziroday> spool32: can you pastebin lspci please
[05:40] <spool32> ziroday: hang on.
[05:40] <ziroday> !offtopic | pedrinhobrito
[05:43] <spool32> ziroday: OK
[05:43] <selammm> SeLamun aLeykum
[05:44] <ziroday> spool32: link?
[05:44] <spool32> ziroday: http://pastebin.com/m46630c7c
[05:44] <ziroday> spool32: thank you
[05:45] <ziroday> spool32: okay you have an Atheros AR2413, what version of ubuntu?
[05:45] <spool32> ziroday: 8.0.4 I believe... it's an 8.x distribution for sur.
[05:45] <spool32> *sure
[05:45] <ziroday> spool32: doing lsb_release -a will tell you
[05:46] <spool32> ziroday: yep. hardy, 8.04.2
[05:47] <ziroday> spool32: okay, well upgrading to 9.04 may have that card working OOTB
[05:47] <ziroday> spool32: or you can try compile a newer version of madwifi for that card, but I strongly recommend upgrading to 9.04
[05:48] <spool32> unfortunately I can't... this is a test machine for QA of updates and scripts for a game server, and the live box runs v8
[05:48] <ZykoticK9> spool32, might be of interest too you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=659118, no solution there unfortunately
[05:49] <ziroday> spool32: right, in that case you'll have to compile newer madwifi drivers. Lemme see if I can pull up a document on that
[05:49] <spool32> ziroday: can't jack with the OS version, sadly.
[05:49] <spool32> what is this madwifi?
[05:49] <ziroday> spool32: its the driver for that card
[05:50] <ziroday> spool32: err I'm sorry I have to shoot out now. I'm sure somebody else will be able to help
[05:50] <spool32> I thought madwifi was some sort of alternate driver resource.
[05:50] <spool32> OK
[05:50] <spool32> ziroday: thanks anyhow.
[05:50] <hipitihop> can someone tell me if it is possible to have a normal desktop user (non admin) but allow them to install programs from add remove or synaptic ?
[05:51] <ZykoticK9> hipitihop, that's what an admin user can do
[05:51] <spool32> someone else? Further support possibly? I'n not convinced it's a driver issue because iwconfig claims that the card can see the WIFI network and the access point.
[05:51] <ZykoticK9> spool32, what happens when you try to connect to the network?
[05:52] <hipitihop> ZykoticK9: sure but does that not also give them all sort of other rights administering the system ?
[05:52] <spool32> zykes-: dhclient never receives a response from the DHCP server on the wireless router.
[05:52] <spool32> erm
[05:52] <spool32> ZykoticK9: *points up*
[05:52] <Pafs321> hi! i just updated my system, to the new kernel (2.6.28-12), my webcam is a microsoft VX-1000, and it stopped working, i reinstalled the v4l library, and the webcam started to work but the image is green, i tested on cheese and skype, when i logged on the 2.6.28-11 version of the kernel the webcam worked normally... anyone has an idea of what's the problem?
[05:52] <ZykoticK9> spool32, does it Connect to the wireless network ok?
[05:53] <spool32> ZykoticK9: with eth0 (wired nic) it works instantly. It appears to connect, at least iwconfig claims that it is seeing the SSID and the AP.
[05:53] <spool32> but I can never get an IP address.
[05:53] <shruthi> I have to run this rmmod ssb  modprobe wl everytime to connect to wireless, how can I automate this
[05:54] <ZykoticK9> spool32, is there a network icon in the top right that you can use to connect to wireless networks?  (i don't remember 8.04 very well)
[05:54] <spool32> ZykoticK9: there is... I used it to config the card and it looks fine, but the card never receives an IP.
[05:55] <ZykoticK9> spool32, IP comes after connecting to the wireless network, which is step 1
[05:56] <shruthi> ou might navigate to in /etc/crontab, and enter
[05:56] <shruthi> "@reboot root <sudo rmmod ssb>"
[05:56] <shruthi> "@reboot root <sudo modprobe wl"
[05:56] <ZykoticK9> spool32, what wireless security are you using?  have you put in the passkey/phrase into the wireless connection setting?  there must be a way to actually try to connect to wireless networks - do you see a list anywhere?
[05:57] <spool32> ZykoticK9: open WEP, and there's a place to enter the key in that network config section. I've done this, both as a hex value and as ascii (it gives me an option to do either).
[05:58] <ZykoticK9> spool32, "open WEP"?  what do you mean
[05:58] <spool32> WEP has an 'open' and a 'shared (or Restricted)' mode.
[05:59] <hipitihop> I have a fully installed jaunty on a usb flash drive from which the machine boots... from another machine is there an easy way to take a complete copy of this flashdrive using dd or simialr so if the user stuff the flash drive I can easily reinstate ?
[05:59] <JabberWalkie_2> JabberWalkie
[06:01] <ed_debian> hipitihop, The last bit of your question doesn't make sense.  "using dd or similar so if the user stuff the flash drive I can easily reinstate" ?
[06:02] <hipitihop> ed_debian: if the user trasheds the usb flash drive or loses it, I would like to simply copy onto new drive from my nas
[06:02]  * spool32 spams channel with 4 lines
[06:02] <spool32> IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"2WIRE391"  Nickname:""
[06:02] <spool32>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: 00:1E:C7:46:AF:19
[06:02] <spool32>           Bit Rate:48 Mb/s   Tx-Power:18 dBm   Sensitivity=1/1
[06:02] <spool32>           Retry:off   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[06:02] <spool32>           Encryption key:3033-3634-2D31-3433-302D-3234   Security mode:open
[06:02] <FloodBot3> spool32: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:02] <ed_debian> sucks to be you spool32
[06:02] <spool32> hah, damnit I thought I coudl get away with less than 5
[06:02] <spool32> :(
[06:02] <hipitihop> ed_debian: reading this so maybe that's what I need http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1122331.html
[06:03] <oDuda> please ubuntu 9.04 and dial up connection...
[06:03] <ed_debian> hipitihop, Looks to me like all you have to do is dd!
[06:04] <spool32> ZykoticK9: http://pastebin.com/m63a86d6a
[06:04] <ed_debian> oDuda, I have never set up a dial-up connection.  I will try and help if you like.  How about it?
[06:04] <hipitihop> ed_debian: does the usb flash have to be mounted or not
[06:05] <ed_debian> hipitihop, It needs to be mounted
[06:05] <oDuda> ed_debian thank you ! i need just to create a dialup connection in 9.04
[06:05] <ed_debian> alright
[06:05] <ed_debian> oDuda, What have we tried so far?
[06:06] <ZykoticK9> spool32, what happens when you run "sudo dhclient ath0" right now?
[06:06] <oDuda> ed_debian i  tried pppconfig... and then pppd... but nothing working at all...
[06:07] <ed_debian> hipitihop, When you "mount" you are giving yourself access to a file-system.  You don't actually mount a device you mount a file-system on that device (byi)
[06:07] <ed_debian> (fyi*)
[06:07] <spool32> ZykoticK9: one sec
[06:07] <ed_debian> Have you seent his?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[06:07] <trappist> when I attach to a screen in gnome-terminal, its width gets resized to what looks like about 80 characters.  height's not affected.  any ideas why?
[06:07] <oDuda> ed_debian ill see it ! ty
[06:07] <ed_debian> sure
[06:07] <trappist> just confirmed, it's 80
[06:08] <Hogarth> hi there, I have a few problems. I can´t get the apostrophe key to make an apostrophe. How do I apostrophe?
[06:08] <hipitihop> ed_debian: I see, so if I ever needed to dd it back to another flash drive ? sounds like I would need to first match partions and all that
[06:08] <oDuda> ed_debian ubuntu 9.04 comes without wvdial*
[06:09] <spool32> ZykoticK9: http://pastebin.com/d74b9ff8e
[06:09] <ed_debian> hipitihop, What do you mean "match partitions" ?
[06:09] <Hogarth> when I type the apostrpohe, it pauses then adds a symbol that I don´t think is an apostrophe. I also have to hold down the key to get it to make the apostrophe.
[06:10] <ed_debian> oDuda,  ok?
[06:10] <ed_debian> oDuda, Do you need it?
[06:10] <mah> hogarth: does it make superscript?
[06:10] <ZykoticK9> spool32, sorry man i don't have any other ideas?
[06:10] <oDuda> ed_debian appears that i need... but im now with windows and i have no way to put it at linux
[06:10] <mah> hogarth: try ~, then 1 and see if you get superscript
[06:11] <hipitihop> ed_debian: well I'm guessing to even mount the usb flash drive, I would need gparted and setup same partions as I had on original flash drive ?
[06:11] <spool32> ZykoticK9: thanks, I appreciate the help.. maybe I'll try moving up to 9.04 and see if it causes a shitstorm with the QA team.
[06:11] <Hogarth> Imah, I wouldn´t know how to make it do superscript, but sometimes it accents letters that I don´t want accented. Oh, it also beeps inside of the computer.
[06:11] <ed_debian> oDuda, I was about to ask that.  How are you talking on an irc client if you can't get internet to work?  You're running windows right now?
[06:11] <Hogarth> sorry, I was typing when you posted.
[06:11] <ed_debian> hipitihop, What is on your flash drive right now?  Random things?
[06:11] <trappist> odd, apt-file search gives me: W: Don't know how to handle https: Bad file descriptor
[06:12]  * spool32 heads off
[06:12] <spool32> thanks folks!
[06:12] <Hogarth> no, mah, no super script.
[06:12] <hipitihop> ed_debian: full jaunty installation ... told it to use the entire drive 4gb
[06:12] <oDuda> ed_debian argh .. yes with rwindows...
[06:12] <ed_debian> hipitihop, Ok before when you had random stuff on it.  You plugged it into your computer from time to time and a nautilus window popped up showing the contents of the drive correct?
[06:12] <Pafs321> hi! i just updated my system, to the new kernel (2.6.28-12), my webcam is a microsoft VX-1000, and it stopped working, i reinstalled the v4l library, and the webcam started to work but the image is green, i tested on cheese and skype, when i logged on the 2.6.28-11 version of the kernel the webcam worked normally... anyone has an idea of what's the problem?
[06:13] <hipitihop> ed_debian: just want to backup this install to a file on my nas incase the user does something with the flash drive so it is easy to create another one
[06:13] <oDuda> ed_debian i already know my serial port (ttyS0)... but nothing more i can do...
[06:13] <jakuphl> !grub
[06:13] <hipitihop> ed_debian: remember this flash driver is bootable
[06:14] <ed_debian> hipitihop, Yes I know that I'm trying to explain what mounting is.
[06:14] <hipitihop> ed_debian: sorry, go on
[06:14] <oDuda> ed_debian at 8.xx i used wired connection under network connections...  with 9.04 i dont identificate this...
[06:14] <jakuphl> ok.. I have searched everywhere, but I keep getting grub error 17
[06:14] <gartral> I have a proccess that's been zombied for days, how do i kill it?
[06:15] <jakuphl> I physically removed the internal hdd and installed ubuntu on an external hdd,
[06:15] <ed_debian> When you plug a usb drive into the system a nautilus window pops up and displays the contents of the drive.  When this happnes the system automatically mounted the drive for you.  All mounting means is taking a file-system and making it available in a file on your current file system (usually /media/something)
[06:15] <ed_debian> hipitihop, You don't have to do anything really to mount (90% of the time)
[06:15] <hipitihop> ed_debian: I'm with you
[06:15] <ed_debian> oDuda, You can download packages from the internet in windows, throw them on a usb key and then open them in linux (you would be looking for a .deb file)
[06:15] <Hogarth> mah, sorry that I´m not that patient, but do you know of a solution to this? Itś pretty annoying.
[06:16] <ed_debian> hipitihop, So once you have your ubuntu install (from the usb drive) dd'd to some folder on your nas you can simply plug in a new key and dd it back
[06:16] <ed_debian> hipitihop, That is my understanding anyway
[06:16] <oDuda> ed_debian yes ! i forgot usb key... but i really need wvdial* packages ?
[06:16] <hipitihop> ed_debian: so maybe I should confirm, given some random flash drive, if I was to mount that on my system and then dd back to it, it will replace partion information and everything on that drive and make it bootable ?
[06:16] <mah> no, i dont.  I would just mess with the keyboard layout settings and see if you can manually set what ~ does
[06:16] <thehoodinternet> is there a way to safely share files with samba.... when i nessus myself it comes up with a big problem not having a login/password... i just want to share some stuff and have the permissions be read only with no probability of anyone deleting anything
[06:17] <gartral> I have a proccess that's been zombied for days, how do i kill it without know what it is?
[06:17] <Hogarth> I will try that.
[06:17] <ed_debian> hipitihop, dd will not repartition for you (sorry I didn't realize the problem until just now)
[06:17] <jmberiault> Hi, I have installed pidentd and I still can't connect to the undernet servers(whether it'd be pidgin or the java client), I am Running 9.04, my router is a WRT54GL (with IDENT filter)with DD-WRT(I previously had Tomato) any1 can guide me on this I would appreciate it tremendously
[06:17] <ed_debian> oDuda, Can you current ubuntu install read ntfs?
[06:17] <victorine> quit
[06:18] <hipitihop> ed_debian: so dd isn't a bit for bit copy as such
[06:18] <genii> gartral: Find it's pid with: ps ax|grep it's-name-here     (pid is left number).   I am not sure about those details.  dd will not repartition for you though.  That I am sure of.
[06:19] <gartral> genii: i have no idea what is zombied, im going off what top says
[06:19] <ed_debian> oDuda, Then just download the packages you need (wxdial or whatever) and then open them in linux.
[06:19] <ed_debian> Remember to find .deb packages!
[06:19] <ed_debian> they're the easiest
[06:19] <gartral> and i know how to use ps in all its carnations
[06:19] <hipitihop> ed_debian: thanks for your clarifications and help. I'll read up a little more.... perhaps I'll need to first check how the original flash is partioned, I suspect just ext3 across the whole drive and if so, just have to make sure I do the same on the new drive
[06:19] <ed_debian> oDuda, It is really hard to work with a linux distro that doesn't have a connection
[06:19] <oDuda> ed_debian ok but where to download from ?
[06:19] <geirha> hipitihop, ed_debian: Yes, if you make an image from /dev/sdb (or whatever the device is), it will also copy the partition table
[06:20] <oDuda> ed_debian very hard
[06:20] <ed_debian> oDuda, Just google it man
[06:20] <ed_debian> There you go hipitihop geirha Has the answer!
[06:20] <oDuda> ed_debian ok ill try it ! man, thanks a lot !
[06:20] <hipitihop> geirha: oh cool... so the question is, does it have to be unmounted first ?
[06:20] <ed_debian> oDuda, No problem (you're not out of the woods yet)
[06:20] <oDuda> :-)
[06:21] <geirha> hipitihop: I don't think so, but I'd recommend it. If something is written to it while you make the image, the image may become corrupt
[06:21] <hipitihop> ed_debian: geirha, I'm asking because I notice in gparted I can see the usb drive and partion and it give me mount unmount options, but even when I unmount, I can see the device
[06:21] <Er1K> Jordan_U: Although messy/hackish, I found a nice solution to my glx library issue....and before you ask, I'm cat'ing the file due to odd issues with bindfiles stuff in ltsp, but the relevant meat is in http://www.pastebin.ca/1440654
[06:21] <thom_> hello all, I need some favors please. How to unplug USB-Wireless Adapter from my machine? I have done disable 'enable wireless'. And if I unplugged it, my machine will hang.
[06:21] <ed_debian> hipitihop, When you unmount you cannot go to computer / flash drive
[06:22] <genii> gartral: Sorry for lag, someone at door. The command: ps -el | grep 'Z'            should tell you which it is
[06:22] <poboy975> hello, can i ask a question about geany here? I'm having a execute error
[06:22] <ed_debian> hipitihop, The computer can see the device and even read it's partition info but it cannot read/write in that devices filesystem unless it is mounted
[06:22] <gartral> genii: never thought of combining those two, thanks
[06:22] <hipitihop> geirha: and ed_debian are we talking cross purposes here ?
[06:22] <genii> gartral: np
[06:22] <ed_debian> poboy975, You never need to ask to ask!  Just ask?  Are you writing python code with geany?
[06:23] <ed_debian> cross purposes?
[06:23] <hipitihop> geirha: and ed_debian iow, do I don't I need to mount it to do the dd to nas and back
[06:23] <poboy975> I'm trying to learn c++ and running the simple hello world compiles with no errors....but when I try to execute I get a script error code 127
[06:23] <geirha> hipitihop: If gparted doesn't show lock/key icons for any of the partitions on the drive, then all partitions are unmounted and it should be safe to make the image
[06:24] <ed_debian> poboy975, What is the first line of your script?
[06:24] <hipitihop> geirha: and ed_debian
[06:24] <poboy975> which script
[06:24] <hipitihop> geirha: and ed_debian, sorry, meant to say thank you for your help
[06:24] <jimlovell777> How can I get a list of how many files are in a directory? A graphical representation is a plus. I've tried the disk usage analyzer from the applications menu but is goes by size, not file count.
[06:25] <gartral> genii: a sh file hung 4 days ago...
[06:25] <ed_debian> hipitihop, I don't know if you need to be mounted or not but like geirha said first try unmounted and see if it errors out
[06:25] <anom01y> what is the module assistant ?
[06:25] <jimlovell777> Opps, nevermind.
[06:25] <win_> y
[06:25] <ed_debian> the C+ program what is the first line?
[06:25] <anom01y> I am trying to get a logitech messenger webcam to work
[06:25] <anom01y> !webcam
[06:25] <genii> gartral: Nasty
[06:26] <poboy975> #include <iostream>
[06:26] <Hogarth> still doing  it. I went into system>preferences>layouts and then chose my keyboard type, but I can´t find a way to customize my keys.
[06:26] <genii> gartral: This sometimes happens to me with dead ssh sessions
[06:26] <anom01y> anyone here have a logitech messenger webcam ?
[06:26] <Hogarth> is there a way to do it, mah?
[06:26] <gartral> genii: nah... it did exactly what it was supposed to do, but i closed the program that was too terminate it
[06:26] <hoohaah> anom01y: yes. but I soon realised I'm too pretty to advertise to the world
[06:26] <hoohaah> anom01y: to further aid world peace, I've decided to cease using it
[06:27] <hoohaah> anom01y: (and I did get it working, btw)
[06:27] <poboy975> I get a geanry run script sh error 5 untitled nout found
[06:27] <gartral> genii: thank you for your hep!"
[06:27] <genii> gartral: You're welcome
[06:28] <phobiac> I've got a question about making a keyboard map. I have a computer with a very non-standard keyboard, and some of the keys just don't work right. I'd be interested in spending the time to manually create a keyboard map for it. What I mean to say is, if you go to the keyboard preferences you can select a keyboard map specific to your model of computer. I'd like to make one, I just don't know what to do.
[06:28] <phobiac> If anyone can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it.
[06:29] <jmberiault> Hi, I have installed pidentd and I still can't connect to some irc servers(whether it'd be pidgin or the java client), I am Running 9.04, my router is a WRT54GL (with IDENT filter)with DD-WRT(I previously had Tomato) any1 can guide me on this I would appreciate it tremendously
[06:31] <geirha> Hogarth: Is it a US keyboard?
[06:31] <agnogenic> Should I use Gnome or KDE or a dead pygmy cannibal?
[06:35] <schaman_> Hi, my ubuntu 9.04 desktop is not accepting any incoming connections, even 'ping localhost' says nothing, 100% packet loss. Outbound connections work fine, I am using irc now from that pc. When I installed a server version, it worked. What do I check to enable incoming connections?
[06:36] <poboy975> hello so any luck, on my geany error?
[06:38] <mib_ycst0umi> yo
[06:38] <bishop> had some luck.ubuntu9 is now connected wireless.played with firewall and other setting
[06:38] <mib_ycst0umi> k
[06:39] <mib_ycst0umi> dont mind me, just looking for 7chan irc
[06:40] <greato> hellO!
[06:40] <greato> does ubuntu only works on 64-bit computer
[06:40] <anom01y> hoofman, how did you get it to work ?
[06:40] <poboy975> nope, it works great on my 32 bit laptop
[06:40] <whatvn> greato: I run 32 bit
[06:41] <barbarella> schaman_:do you have some firewall installed?
[06:41] <greato> ok
[06:41] <anom01y> hoofman, sorry
[06:41] <geirha> phobiac: Found this on google, looks promising http://hektor.umcs.lublin.pl/~mikosmul/computing/articles/custom-keyboard-layouts-xkb.html
[06:42] <phobiac> geirha: Thanks, I really couldn't find much on google. I'm looking at keytouch right now, but the editor doesn't seem to recognize the keyboard at all.
[06:43] <anom01y> anyone here use logitech messenger webcam ?
[06:43] <phobiac> geirha: This looks like exactly what I wanted though, awesome.
[06:43] <anom01y> need help getting it to work, camorama gives me an error
[06:43] <sevele> what error
[06:44] <sevele> is anyone here?
[06:44] <phobiac> Actually I'm realizing keytouch isn't what I needed, but will help with the multimedia keys. So this solved two problems.
[06:44] <jmberiault> Hi, I have installed pidentd and I still can't connect to some irc servers(whether it'd be pidgin or the java client), I am Running 9.04, my router is a WRT54GL with DD-WRT(with IDENT filter, I previously had Tomato) any1 can guide me on this I would appreciate it tremendously
[06:44] <poboy975> there was a little bit ago, dont know about now
[06:44] <phobiac> anom01y: Yeah, what error? That should help narrow it down.
[06:45] <anom01y> phobiac, one sec
[06:45] <anom01y> phobiac, unable to capture image
[06:46] <Hogarth> so any luck on that problem? Is there a way to manually set keys for the keyboard?
[06:46] <phobiac> anom01y: Is that the full error? Any numbers or anything?
[06:46] <schaman_> barbarella: i've got iptables, but when i do 'iptables -L' nothing changes
[06:46] <phobiac> Hogarth: geirha linked me to this which looks promising http://hektor.umcs.lublin.pl/~mikosmul/computing/articles/custom-keyboard-layouts-xkb.html
[06:46] <phobiac> Hogarth: If you have a similar problem
[06:46] <anom01y> dylan_, is that the full error ?
[06:46] <greato> hello! how to install ubuntu and Windows on same computer
[06:46] <Hogarth> sweet, thanks phobiac.
[06:46] <dylan_> yes
[06:47] <poboy975> dual boot
[06:47] <phobiac> Hogarth: Thank geirha :P
[06:47] <greato> how to configure dual boot
[06:47] <anom01y> phobiac, thats the full error
[06:47] <poboy975> whic is currently loaded?
[06:47] <greato> Windows XP
[06:47] <schaman_> barbarella: i mean i do 'iptables -X' and clean all rules
[06:47] <sagaci> !wubi | greato
[06:47] <jmberiault> this is amazing you guys answer dumbass questions while i'm left in the dark?
[06:47] <phobiac> anom01y: Well, sounds like it can't capture images then. What's the model number of the webcam?
[06:47] <sevele> hello everyone
[06:48] <anom01y> phobiac, logitech messenger
[06:48] <eseven73> !attitude | jmberiault
[06:48] <poboy975> ok, you need a program like partition magic or some other non destructive partition manager... then you can load ubuntu in the empty partition
[06:48] <jmberiault> attitude my arse
[06:48] <eseven73> be nice
[06:48] <phobiac> anom01y: I need more than that, there must be a model number on it somewhere.
[06:48] <phobiac> anom01y: It's a usb webcam?
[06:48] <anom01y> yes
[06:48] <Xodiac13> i need help on getting sound in zsnes
[06:49] <phobiac> anom01y: If you do lsusb does it show up?
[06:49] <anom01y> phobiac, dylan_ is who I am trying to help
[06:49] <Xodiac13> i have looked on the forums and tried doing that but i need step by step help i am new to linux
[06:49] <anom01y> dylan_, type lsusb
[06:49] <phobiac> anom01y: Oh okay
[06:49] <anom01y> we'll get it
[06:50] <phobiac> dylan_: Do an lsusb and see if there's a line about the webcam.
[06:50] <phobiac> If so, can I see it?
[06:50] <barbarella> schaman_:iptables -F and iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT and iptables -OUTPUT ACCEPT
[06:50] <dylan_> phobiac, it sows up. "logitech quickcam messenger"
[06:51] <Xodiac13> help please
[06:51] <jakuphl> Xodiac13 what is the problem
[06:51] <phobiac> dylan_: Okay. Actually, this might help you. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111225
[06:51] <Xodiac13> i am trying to get sound in zsnes
[06:52] <gartral> hmm... a LOT of the media players in 9.04 refuse to take commands from the media buttons on my keyboard
[06:52] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: have you checked this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7488.html
[06:53] <eseven73> !info keytouch | gartral
[06:53] <Xodiac13> ive looked on the forums and i am new to linux
[06:53] <phobiac> dylan_: The thread appears to be sort of old, but it might help regardless.
[06:53] <schaman_> barbarella: done! nothing changed. here is iptables-save output: *filter / :INPUT ACCEPT [2:248] / :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] / :OUTPUT ACCEPT [1:52] / COMMIT
[06:53] <dylan_> phobiac, no luck with that thread
[06:53] <gartral> eseven73: most media programs work, and my keys are recognised, but mplayer refuses to pause!
[06:53] <anom01y> dylan_, just install the xawtv
[06:54] <anom01y> sudo apt-get install xawtv
[06:54] <eseven73> gartral, ok.
[06:54] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: okay, first make sure that you have no media player running
[06:54] <gartral> eseven73: will keytouch still help me?
[06:54] <eseven73> gartral, try VLC maybe
[06:54] <gartral> VLC doesn't either
[06:54] <luis_> hola
[06:54] <gartral> neither does dragon
[06:54] <eseven73> gartral, well try keytouch then
[06:54] <luis_> hello
[06:54] <Xodiac13> okay
[06:54] <genii> !es | luis_
[06:55] <luis_> ok
[06:55] <Xodiac13> well i got sound but how do i start it up with the command
[06:55] <Xodiac13> zsnes -ad sdl i have to put this in
[06:55] <Xodiac13> so how do i make it load with that
[06:55] <anom01y> dylan_, after installing xawtv, run xawtv -c /dev/video0
[06:55] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: then press alt+f2
[06:55] <dylan_> phobiac, xawtv works!
[06:55] <anom01y> nice
[06:55] <phobiac> dylan_: Yay!
[06:55] <Xodiac13> when i run the emulator
[06:56] <dylan_> tyvm
[06:56] <anom01y> cool
[06:56] <Name141> I tried making a bootable USB Flash drive, however when I try to boot from it simply says "boot error."  What could I possibly do to fix this?  It appears that other people with my dell Inspiron 530 have the same issue.
[06:56] <jakuphl> Xodiac: and run killall esd; zsnes; esd -nobeeps &
[06:56] <phobiac> dylan_: Thank google and the person who started the thread :P
[06:56] <Xodiac13> uhm okay
[06:56] <phobiac> Name141: Is there possibly something that can be changed in the BIOS?
[06:56] <Name141> phobiac: Such as?
[06:57] <Name141> phobiac: I even upgraded to the latest BIOS
[06:57] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: wait... you have sound now
[06:57] <jakuphl> ?
[06:57] <phobiac> Name141: I know my netbook has an option to not allow booting from removable media except by administrators
[06:57] <Xodiac13> nice thank you and i have one more question
[06:57] <Xodiac13> crap when it runs its a little crackly
[06:57] <gartral> eseven73: mine isn't in here, it's a generic 105 key media board..
[06:57] <jakuphl> Xodiac13 yeees???
[06:57] <phobiac> Name141: Does the flash drive load at all?
[06:57] <Xodiac13> how do i fix that
[06:57] <Name141> phobiac: I doubt asking dell about it would do any good since it was shipped with a Windows OS?
[06:58] <Xodiac13> i did what you told me and its crackly how do i fix that
[06:58] <Name141> phobiac: load at all?  I can write/delete/etc files from it
[06:58] <phobiac> Name141: No no. What I mean is, when you boot from it, what /exactly/ happens?
[06:58] <eseven73> gartral, whats the make/model of your keyboard specifically and what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[06:58] <Name141> phobiac: "boot error"
[06:58] <froes> hey .. i am having some problems with USB 3G dongles and NetworkManager. :(
[06:58] <phobiac> Name141: Does the livecd menu start to load, and crash? Load at all?
[06:58] <SeViLLa> Xodiac13: "trust your techno lust"
[06:58] <anom01y> phobiac, how come xawtv works but camorama doesn't ?
[06:58] <phobiac> Name141: That's the only thing that happens? :/
[06:58] <Name141> phobiac: nothing
[06:58] <Name141> phobiac: correct
[06:58] <phobiac> anom01y: Not a clue
[06:58] <Xodiac13> ?
[06:59] <anom01y> on mine both work, on dylan_'s only xawtv works
[06:59] <Xodiac13> yea if there is somehow i can get it not crackly
[06:59] <phobiac> anom01y: Differences in camera chipsets, possibly.
[06:59] <froes> with a huawei e169 i am able to connect onde, but with a e220 i am not. not even once
[06:59] <Name141> phobiac: I even tried making it off of the live CD running
[06:59] <Name141> phobiac: still "boot error" when I restarted to it
[06:59] <anom01y> kopete's settings don't work for the camera either
[06:59] <RKR> Hi , Everyone I am in need of a 3gp video convertor for ubuntu 9.04 pls      anybody  help me
[06:59] <phobiac> Name141: Does it load a live CD fine?
[07:00] <phobiac> Or is that what you meant, it doesn't?
[07:00] <gartral> eseven73: 9.04, and the keyboard was a $20 *no-name* from inkstop, the instructions and warenty were printed mirred and said something about vuescape... the keyboard is HIGHLY generic, and the media keys work, but programs dont pick them up
[07:00] <anom01y> kopete->settings->video should show /dev/video0, but it doesnt
[07:00] <Name141> phobiac: from DVD
[07:00] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: is it crackly when you do this in terminal?     zsnes -ad sdl
[07:00] <phobiac> anom01y: Webcams seem to be very shakey in ubuntu.
[07:00] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: ofcourse turn zsnes off before doing it
[07:01] <phobiac> Name141: But not from CD?
[07:01] <Xodiac13> yeah i did
[07:01] <Xodiac13> i am testing it right now
[07:01] <Name141> phobiac: Oh, I guess?  Whatever they shipped (CDs?)
[07:01] <RKR> Hi , Everyone I am in need of a 3gp video convertor for ubuntu 9.04 pls      anybody  help me
[07:01] <eseven73> gartral, thats going to be tough to diagnose with a no-name generic keyboard, best you could probably do is search the forums
[07:01] <froes> another thing is that i dont seem to be able to install any software it always says its not i386 capable
[07:01] <Xodiac13> its still crackly
[07:01] <phobiac> Name141: Uhhh, I'm not sure what is shipped. Probably CDs. It sounds like a BIOS issue.
[07:01] <Xodiac13> the sound
[07:01] <Name141> phobiac: So there is nothing I can really do?
[07:02] <phobiac> Name141: You may have just downloaded a corrupt file for making the live flash drive.
[07:02] <gartral> eseven73: im sure its the programs because my sansa e250 (Rockboxed) has the same generic hid properties, and all the programs react exactly the same
[07:02] <geirha> anom01y: camorama only supports v4l devices, while xawt probably supports both v4l and v4l2
[07:02] <Xodiac13> the sound
[07:02] <mib_bw2req> 你们好
[07:02] <Name141> phobiac: It was shipped
[07:02] <Xodiac13> its still crackly
[07:02] <Xodiac13> when i do that
[07:02] <eseven73> !cn | mib_bw2req
[07:02] <phobiac> Name141: Oh. Well then, there's probably not really anything you can do. Is this an old computer?
[07:02] <anom01y> ahh
[07:03] <Name141> phobiac: no
[07:03] <greato> i am back
[07:03] <phobiac> Name141: It's an insiprion 530 you said?
[07:03] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: what version of zsnes do you have?
[07:03] <Xodiac13> how do i check
[07:03] <phobiac> Minus an i
[07:03] <Name141> phobiac: My old computer works perfect with Xubuntu (slow but.. works)
[07:03] <Name141> phobiac: Yes
[07:03] <gartral> Xodiac13: zsnes -v
[07:03] <phobiac> Name141: Hmm, give me a second to check into it.
[07:04] <anom01y> geirha, does kopete support v4l2 ?
[07:04] <Xodiac13> it says invalid video mode
[07:04] <gartral> Xodiac13: -V (cap v) maybe?
[07:04] <Name141> phobiac: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-732398.html
[07:05] <Xodiac13> it says the same
[07:05] <Name141> phobiac: I don't see any help there though
[07:05] <RKR> Hi , Everyone I am in need of a 3gp video convertor for ubuntu 9.04 pls      anybody  help me
[07:05] <gartral> eseven73: what log keeps media key strokes?
[07:05] <RKR> Hi , Everyone I am in need of a 3gp video convertor for ubuntu 9.04 pls      anybody  help me
[07:05] <RKR> Hi , Everyone I am in need of a 3gp video convertor for ubuntu 9.04 pls      anybody  help me
[07:05] <genii> !repeat | RKR
[07:05] <eseven73> gartral, not sure sorry
[07:06] <Xodiac13> gartal it gives me the same
[07:06] <jakuphl> man zsnes will show it
[07:06] <Xodiac13> ok
[07:06] <phobiac> Name141: I can't really find anything either. :/
[07:06] <gartral> eseven73: ill ask tomarro
[07:06] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: you probably have 1.51
[07:07] <Xodiac13> yes its that one
[07:07] <Jck_true_> I've run into a little problem
[07:07] <Name141> phobiac: Would the dell DVD be a waste of time ?
[07:07] <phobiac> Name141: The only thing I can suggest is to look through the BIOS for anything regarding "removable media" or anything that says "USB" and see if a setting is wrong.
[07:07] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: okay, in terminal do: gedit ~/.zsnes/zsnesl.cfg
[07:07] <Jck_true_> I've installed ffmpeg from apt but somehow i can't encode in all the regular formats
[07:07] <Xodiac13> okay
[07:07] <schaman_> Hi, my ubuntu 9.04 desktop is not accepting any incoming connections, even 'ping localhost' says nothing, 100% packet loss. Outbound connections work fine, I am using irc now from that pc. No firewall is installed. What do I check to enable incoming connections?
[07:07] <Jck_true_> Only mpeg1 seems to work
[07:07] <eseven73> gartral, ok good luck :)
[07:07] <Name141> phobiac: I booted from a USB hard drive before.
[07:07] <phobiac> Name141: I'm not sure, what were you going to do with it?
[07:07] <Jck_true_> are they are ffmpeg-all package i need to install?
[07:07] <geirha> anom01y: Don't know. A quick google suggests it is in the making, but possibly not stable yet.
[07:08] <Name141> phobiac: Try it instead
[07:08] <kz> hey guys, just installed ubuntu
[07:08] <phobiac> Name141: Oh. Maybe the flash drive is bad then? Try booting from it on another computer. Although you said you can read and write to it, so I'm guessing that's not it.
[07:08] <Xodiac13>  okay i did
[07:08] <kz> how would i get dual screens working?
[07:08] <phobiac> Name141: Sure, if it boots from a Live CD or DVD instead, that should be fine.
[07:08] <Name141> phobiac: Yeah.. seeing as  there are other problems
[07:09] <Name141> phobiac: I think I might as well give up linux
[07:09] <Name141> (on this machine)
[07:09] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: On line 178, change "auto" to "sdl"
[07:09] <phobiac> Name141: I really think this might be a BIOS issue though, which is unfortunate and weird considering it's a newish computer.
[07:09] <Xodiac13> uh it didnt load
[07:09] <jmberiault> made it work all by myself, like a big boy
[07:09] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: what?
[07:09] <Name141> phobiac: My sound was low in Hardy, then Intrepid my NIC didn't work worth anything.. Same with Jaunty
[07:10] <Name141> phobiac: I think the machine just wasn't meant for it.
[07:10] <phobiac> Name141: Booting from flash drives is a very very recent thing in terms of computer years, so I'm not horribly surprised about your issues.
[07:10] <phobiac> Name141: Oh man I know how you feel.
[07:10] <phobiac> Name141: My netbook is just barely supported by ubuntu at all. The hardware is so new, a lot of stuff doesn't work right or at all.
[07:11] <phobiac> Or rather, the hardware is new and so closed source.
[07:11] <kz> how do i get dual screens working?
[07:11] <Name141> phobiac: Yes, it seems the NIC uses the e1000e 'module' ?  It was the same module as was in hardy that worked perfect.  So where did it go wrong?
[07:11] <Name141> phobiac: from hardy -> intrepid
[07:11] <Xodiac13> it doenst load up
[07:12] <phobiac> Name141: Kernel updates break things sometimes. The only thing I can suggest is using an older kernel if it worked fine for you.
[07:12] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: what does not load up? the text file or zsnes
[07:12] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: nothing
[07:12] <Hew> Hi guys. During startup, there are messages about processes starting up that get [  OK  ] or [ FAIL ] etc. Is there a log of this somewhere?
[07:12] <Name141> phobiac: I always heard that was "unsecure"
[07:12] <kz> can anyone help  me getting dual screens working with ubuntu?
[07:13] <Fezzler> is there a way to have my Freenode password emailed to me?
[07:13] <phobiac> Name141: As far as I know kernel updates are mostly just drivers. The security updates are seperate, I thought.
[07:13] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: did you do this right
[07:13] <Name141> phobiac: *shrugs*
[07:13] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: ~/.zsnes/zsnesl.cfg
[07:13] <Name141> phobiac: I tried Fedora10 too.  It did all the same funky stuff
[07:13] <phobiac> kz: Check system>preferences>display
[07:13] <kz> yea tried phobiac
[07:14] <bishop> joining
[07:14] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: gedit ~/.zsnes/zsnesl.cfg
[07:14] <kz> only one monitor comes up
[07:14] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: that is
[07:14] <phobiac> Name141: Distros share drivers for the most part. If it's open source and works, it's shared.
[07:14] <Xodiac13> how do i copy and past it
[07:14] <Name141> phobiac: "works"
[07:15] <phobiac> kz: I can't help you much, but try search for "ubuntu yourcomputermodel external monitor"
[07:15] <kz> what do you mean by yourcomputermodel? i built it myself
[07:15] <phobiac> kz: Or "dual displays" or anything that would fit. Google is a great tech support tool.
[07:15] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: how do i copy and paste it
[07:15] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: in terminal click "edit" ----> "paste"
[07:15] <kz> tried it, phobiac
[07:15] <kz> hence why im here lol
[07:15] <phobiac> kz: Oh okay. Try yourvideocard?
[07:15] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: how do i copy from the chat room
[07:16] <kz> ah will do
[07:16] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: omg. mark it and press ctrl + c
[07:16] <phobiac> Anyway I'm off. Good luck with your problems everyone.
[07:16] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: sorry
[07:16] <kz> but before i do that, something else. when i started ubuntu it came up asking me to install the drivers for my video card, and gave me some that it recommended. closed it though, now its done?
[07:16] <siebel> !bots
[07:16] <kz> bye phobiac
[07:16] <kz> now its gone*
[07:17] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: it says bash: gedit: command not found
[07:17] <Xodiac13> su
[07:17] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: are you using ubuntu?
[07:17] <phobiac> kz: Okay wait, I can help with that.
[07:17] <kz> ah sweet
[07:17] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: i am using antix it still uses the same commands
[07:18] <phobiac> system>administration>hardware drivers
[07:18] <phobiac> kz
[07:18] <kz> cheers
[07:18] <voland> hello. is there somebody who uses gwibber client?
[07:18] <phobiac> Keep in mind those are usually closed source drivers, if that matters to you.
[07:18] <jakuphl> okay then replace gedit with nano
[07:18] <Xodiac13> k
[07:18] <kz> not really, just coming from vista so im used to it
[07:18] <kz> :P
[07:18] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: okay then replace gedit with nano
[07:19] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: okay something loaded and it doesnt have nothing in the file
[07:19] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: is it empty?
[07:19] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: yes
[07:19] <kz> brb restart, thanks phobiac
[07:20] <jakuphl> okay... exit that and try nano /home/username/.zsnes/zsnesl.cfg
[07:20] <Xodiac13> i did
[07:21] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: ok.. just making sure... then i don't really know
[07:21] <jakuphl> Xodiac13:  it works for me
[07:21] <Xodiac13> okay nm it loaded
[07:21] <libtech> its a great night
[07:21] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: it worked
[07:21] <jakuphl> Xodiac13:  good... On line 178, change "auto" to "sdl"
[07:21] <jakuphl> Xodiac13:  so that it is libAoDriver="sdl"
[07:22] <Xodiac13> okay
[07:22] <LinuxNIT> prior to logging in from gdm i can switch terminal F1 etc without problems but after i log in via gdm when i switch to terminals F1 etc i get a flashing screen with unreadable text flashing at the top of the screen, how can i fix this? (00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07))
[07:22] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: it was already like that
[07:23] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: which Xorg driver are you using?
[07:23] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: its already sdl
[07:23] <kz> phobiac: if youre still here. installing the drivers made dual screens work :)
[07:23] <dinhhoang_ht1_87> heloo
[07:23] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: okay... then I am really not sure, but then try to replace sdl with auto
[07:23] <phobiac> kz: Yay!
[07:23] <jakuphl> y
[07:23] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: how do i save it
[07:23] <phobiac> I'm here, just wanted to slink away from helping for a bit so I could do my own things.
[07:24] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, i dont know because xorg.conf nolonger contains that information
[07:24] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: ctrl + x and they y
[07:24] <oDuda> hello... somebody knows about missing ppp gui in ubuntu 9.04 ?
[07:24] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: then
[07:24] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: hrm. are you able to get back to X via f7 or f8?
[07:24] <kz> although now the top and bottom bars have gone to the other screen, which is on the right of me even though the proper monitor is on the left in x server settings
[07:24] <LinuxNIT> f7
[07:24] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, yes by f7
[07:25] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: aaand enter
[07:25] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: ok - check your System->Administration->Hardware drivers
[07:25] <Xodiac13> okokay
[07:26] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: but that probably did not help.. if not, then change it back
[07:26] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, it says no proprietar drivers are in use on this system... other than that its blank
[07:26] <Xodiac13> okay
[07:27] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: odd... have you tried booting without the 'quiet splash' options set?
[07:27] <libtech> so, i have my music Files on my windows partition, i have to import this folder every time i start rhythmbox
[07:27] <LinuxNIT> those are set by default
[07:27] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: how do i do that one thing alt f2 to get the sound
[07:27] <LinuxNIT> i tried removing then and have the same issue
[07:27] <Gnea> ok
[07:27] <fccf> ok there are enough people to allow me to try this - I need to run a test on an ubuntu streaming server running flumotion and cortado - which means I need people to log on to my server and listen to the stream for at least 1min - you will need java runtimes installed - I am hoping I can get 20 or 30 connections going for 1 min -- lets give this a try http://www.fullertonfirstchristian.org:81/index.html - and if it works I thank you very m
[07:28] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, actually i removed the quiet option and changed splash to nosplash
[07:28] <eseven73> !ot | fccf
[07:28] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: yeah i had to change it back
[07:28]  * LinuxNIT just trying to be clear :)
[07:29] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: am i going to have to get another emulator then
[07:29] <Gnea> fccf: sorry, you can't do that here. please try #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:29] <rww> Gnea: he did, we lambasted him for using Java
[07:29] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: that's just fine :)
[07:29] <libtech> everytime i start rhythmbox i have to import my music folder, its on a windows partition, any reason why?
[07:29] <Arkhalis> Heya'all
[07:29] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: zsnes -ad sdl but what happens if you boot it normally
[07:29] <fccf> eseven73: the best support I can get is from users - and right now I need to test this system
[07:30] <eseven73> it's still offtopic for this channel
[07:30] <Gnea> !guidelines | fccf
[07:30] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: how do i make it load like that every time
[07:30] <Gnea> fccf: try asking for a good channel to ask in #freenode, they're the best
[07:30] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: what desktop-manager are you using?
[07:30] <TopoMorto> does ubuntu run on foxconn 45csx mainboard ? the acpi related bug has been solved?
[07:30] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: gnome?
[07:30] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: uhm i think its cwm
[07:31] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: its icewm
[07:31] <fccf> sorry if I disagree
[07:31] <omid8bimo> guys, i've updated my empathy to 2.26.2 and i don't have yahoo on my list of accounts to create! how can i add it/
[07:31] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: no
[07:32] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: icewm
[07:32] <gabbah> hey guys. I have problems changing the owner of a folder on my ntfs partition: sudo chown -R gabriel.gabriel /media/bigmama/found.000/ but after the owner is still root when i check! why?
[07:32] <Trentor> Question:  I have a laptop that is QUERTY and a USB keyboard that is DVORAK, but whenever I change the keyboard layout to DVORAK default in the keyboard settings it changes the laptop keyboard to DVORAK but not the usb keyboard.  The usb keyboard is not native dvorak, keys were changed manually from querty.  How can I get my laptop keyboard to be querty and external to be dvorak?
[07:32] <kz> hey guys, the top and bottom bar things of ubuntu are on the wrong screen (using dual screens). how do i swap them around?
[07:32] <Trentor> kz: right click ->remove panel
[07:32] <adrian_> org
[07:32] <Trentor> or add a panel
[07:32] <omid8bimo> gabbah: right command it chwown -R user:grp [file]
[07:32] <Arkhalis> alright so i've been looking around for a solution to this all day... anyone know how to resolve the eeepc 1008ha wifi and ethernet not working? I've been told compat-wireless but how do i do that without either of them working?
[07:32] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: i'm not sure, but it should be easy to do
[07:33] <kz> Trentor: removed the panels. how do i get them back on the scren i want them on?
[07:33] <rww> gabbah: NTFS partitions don't use chmod or chown, because they don't support UNIX-style permissions. You'd need to specify the owner and group when mounting it.
[07:33] <omid8bimo> gabbah: chown actually :)
[07:33] <rww> !ntfs | gabbah: this page has details.
[07:33] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, out of ideas?
[07:33] <Trentor> right click desktop and add panel
[07:33] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: i have another question when my os boots up it says that there are .conf that are missing and that occured when i updated it and used a different choice will it effect my os
[07:33] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: still looking..
[07:33] <gabbah> rww: thanks... yeah i've been trying to fix fstab too
[07:34] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, ok thanks :)
[07:34] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: is this jaunty?
[07:34] <LinuxNIT> yes upgraded...
[07:34] <LinuxNIT> i had the same issue before i upgraded though
[07:34] <Gnea> k
[07:35] <kz> cheers Trentor. is there a way to get the default top panel back?
[07:35] <LinuxNIT> amd64 too
[07:35] <becomingGuru> I am so dumb that I am not able to figure what is the simple ftp command to transfer to a remote server I am getting connection refused without even prompting me for password
[07:35] <eseven73> !panels | kz
[07:35] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: i'm not sure, I have never used antix... so I'm pretty much guessing stuff right now.
[07:35] <becomingGuru> what is the command to use
[07:35] <kz> !panels
[07:35] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, i think it did it on 32bit but its been a long time since i booted the 32bit partition.
[07:35] <kz> ok
[07:35] <Xodiac13> jakuhpl: lol
[07:35] <kz> how do i open terminal without the top panel? lol
[07:35] <zenxr> I just scanned my lappy with rootkit hunter, and I received a warning on /usr/sbin/unhide; is that truly dangerous?
[07:35] <eseven73> kz alt+f2 then gnome-terminal
[07:36] <eseven73> then type that long command ubottu gave you
[07:36] <kz> sick thanks
[07:36] <Arkhalis> Anyone able to help me with an eeepc wifi and ethernet issue? can't find a solution anywhere ><
[07:36] <eseven73> :D
[07:36] <Trentor> kz: Alt-F2, type 'gnome panel'
[07:36] <Guest31932> hallo
[07:36] <libtech> Arkhalis: which eee are you usng?
[07:36] <jakuphl> Xodiac13: i'm going to sleep. goodnight.
[07:36] <kz> ok sweet as
[07:36] <Arkhalis> 1008HA
[07:36] <eseven73> !de | Guest31932
[07:36] <Xodiac13> jakuphl: goodnight thank you for helping me
[07:36] <Trentor> kz: this link might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=392387
[07:37] <zenxr> \giuseppe is now known as Guest31932
[07:37] <kz> i still cant get it to become on the other screen, though
[07:37] <zenxr> why make it into that of all names lmao?
[07:37] <libtech> Arkhalis: cant connect to wireless or what?
[07:37] <Trentor> kz: how are your dual screens being run
[07:37] <Arkhalis> no wireless OR ethernet
[07:37] <kz> umm
[07:37] <Trentor> kz: brb,mess with it alittle,brb
[07:37] <kz> twinview
[07:37] <zenxr> Arkhalis: does ifconfig recognize any networks?
[07:38] <Arkhalis> been told compat-wireless solves the wifi issue but i can't connect ethernet to apt-get
[07:38] <libtech> Arkhalis: im running ubuntu netbook remix on a 1000he, no issues really
[07:38] <froes> anyone having problems with USB modem E220 under ubuntu 9.04? it does not recognize it, but it shows on lsusb !! please help !!
[07:38] <Arkhalis> yeah, my 901 runs it fine but this one doesn't
[07:38] <omid8bimo> i've updated my empathy to 2.26.2 and i don't have yahoo on my list of accounts to create! how can i add it/
[07:38] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[07:38] <Arkhalis> nothing on ifconfig
[07:38] <zenxr> libtech: A compony with your nickname used to make some funky skateboards :D
[07:39] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, one moment
[07:39] <zenxr> Arkhalis: whoah, do you have a pcmcia slot anywhere? I'd put a wireless card in that and get your system up with it
[07:39] <libtech> zenxr: they still make snowboards lol
[07:39] <Arkhalis> no pcmcia... it's an eeepc =p
[07:40] <Arkhalis> I'll have to go buy a wireless usb key i am thinking
[07:40] <Trentor> Question:  I have a laptop that is QUERTY and a USB keyboard that is DVORAK, but whenever I change the keyboard layout to DVORAK default in the keyboard settings it changes the laptop keyboard to DVORAK but not the usb keyboard.  The usb keyboard is not native dvorak, keys were changed manually from querty.  How can I get my laptop keyboard to be querty and external to be dvorak?
[07:40] <rww> omid8bimo: 2.26.2 isn't in Ubuntu's repositories yet. Did you get it from somewhere else? If so, they're the people to ask =/
[07:40] <Gnea> Arkhalis: might also want to try #ubuntu-eeepc
[07:40] <zenxr> libtech: Yeah, they mostly made those anyways. They made an alloy skateboard deck;p...whoops, going OT, gonna get spammed.
[07:40] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, http://pastebin.ca/1440706
[07:40] <Arkhalis> aha
[07:40] <libtech> lol
[07:40] <Arkhalis> Thanks Gnea~
[07:41] <omid8bimo> rww: okay but generally is there any strage way to add account support?
[07:41] <kenyon> Trentor: I don't think you can have separate configs for the 2 keyboards
[07:41] <Trentor> kenyon: then how can I get my usb keyboard to dvorak,because i cannot get it to change
[07:41] <rww> omid8bimo: I imagine you need to get telepathy-haze from wherever you got empathy.
[07:42] <Trentor> Whenever I change it to dvorak it only effects my laptop keyboard
[07:42] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: oooh, you're using the i915 driver :)
[07:42] <Trentor> kw: how is the editing hoinh
[07:42] <Trentor> going*
[07:42]  * Gnea duhs
[07:42] <Gnea> !intel
[07:42] <rww> omid8bimo: telepathy-haze being the telepathy->libpurple manager which, if I remember correctly, is how empathy gets Yahoo support.
[07:43] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, thats the one it picked by default.
[07:43] <omid8bimo> rww: oh got it, thanks dude
[07:43] <kenyon> Trentor: don't know, I haven't tried a setup like that, but I used dvorak too.
[07:43] <kenyon> Trentor: err use.
[07:43] <kz> Trentor: i held alt and dragged them across to the other screen
[07:44] <kz> although now on the bottom one theres a big gap between the desktop switching and the far side of the screen
[07:44] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: well, I'm guessing that it's using all of the correct resolutions and that glx and whatnot are able to power compiz just fine?
[07:44] <bullgard4> Does Empathy produce sounds on Empathy status events (for example the reception of a message), or not?
[07:44] <losher> zenxr: re: unhide, rootkit hunter apparently has a mailing list. I would ask on there...
[07:45] <froes> anyone having problems with USB modem E220 under ubuntu 9.04? it does not recognize it, but it shows on lsusb !! please help !!
[07:45] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, yes im getting max resolution and compiz seems to run just fine
[07:45] <zenxr> losher: I'm not really that worried about it, so I figured if nobody knew here I'd just say forget it. thank you for the answer though.
[07:45] <LinuxNIT> Gnea, do i need to change drivers?
[07:46] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: it couldn't hurt to try
[07:46] <Gnea> LinuxNIT: that second url seems to have some pretty decent info
[07:50] <Arkhalis> still no luck ><
[07:52] <Arkhalis> any ideas anyone? or am i basically screwed untill i can get some sort of usb internet? lol
[07:52] <zhoujingrui> hi i need a help
[07:52] <zhoujingrui> my ubunut 8.10no sound
[07:53] <bullgard4> !sound | zhoujingrui
[07:53] <hipitihop> can someone tell me the location where apt stores downloaded packages
[07:54] <fccf> hipitihop: /var/cache/apt/....
[07:54] <oDuda> please someone help about package ?
[07:54] <bullgard4> hipitihop: Try /usr/cache/apt/archives/
[07:55] <bullgard4> oDuda: Please put here in this channel a specific question. Do not ask: "Can someone help me?"
[07:56] <fccf> bullgard4: its /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:56] <oDuda> sorry ! http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/gnome-ppp <-- i need to download all files from this page to correct an error of this release ?
[07:57] <bullgard4> Does Empathy produce sounds on Empathy status events (for example the reception of a message), or not?
[07:57] <edogzilla> hello. does anyone here play entropia universe thru wine? if so...how?
[07:58] <oDuda> ubuntu 9.04 appears to be released withouth ppp files/gui...
[07:59] <lol> hi
[07:59] <lol> hi
[07:59] <bullgard4> oDuda: Can you not download the DEB program package using the program Synaptic?
[07:59] <fccf> lol: hi
[07:59] <bullgard4> oDuda: Can you not download the DEB program package gnome-ppp using the program Synaptic?
[08:00] <edogzilla>  does anyone here play entropia universe thru wine? if so...how?
[08:00] <Slart> !info gnome-ppp
[08:00] <Fezzler> How do I set Ubuntu so it used wired networking as default - not wireless
[08:00] <Guest29904> how to use opedns ?
[08:00] <oDuda> bullgard4 thanks, but im trying to put my dialup working at 9.04 because im without dialup connection in linux... (running rwindows now)
[08:00] <Slart> Fezzler: you might be able to set the default gateway to the wired network.. I think
[08:00] <Guest29904> any one guide me in usinmg opendns
[08:01] <Slart> Guest29904: check the opendns site.. they have instructions I think..
[08:01]  * Guest29904 cries
[08:01] <Guest29904> quir
[08:02] <WIGGMPk> Every time I copy a disc with Brasero, the DVD Drive (in my laptop) stops working.. I copied the disc into an ISO but now the disc drive wont open and the disc is no longer mounted.. Any thoughts?
[08:02] <fccf> WIGGMPk: Paperclip
[08:03] <Neremor> hello!
[08:03] <WIGGMPk> fccf: forces the drive open, but doesnt fix the problem.. inserting another DVD or CD does nothing
[08:03] <Neremor> I'm able to resize all images in a folder with "mogrify -resize 800x600 *.jpg"... Is there something like the "*" to resize all images larger than 1MB?
[08:04] <oDuda> bullgard4 i will give up ppp...
[08:04] <fccf> WIGGMPk: Laptop drives suck, reboot - if that doesn't work - buy a external drive
[08:04] <WIGGMPk> fccf: rebooting fixes the issue just to cause it again later.. buying an external drive is NOT a solution
[08:05] <Pythack> Hello
[08:05] <bullgard4> oDuda: I am not familiar with rwindows. What program is "rwindows"?
[08:05] <fccf> WIGGMPk: like I said - Laptop Drives Suck - and are prohibitivily expensive - thats why I said external
[08:06] <oDuda> bullgard4 hahahahha... im having problems with linux... im using windows to talk with you ....
[08:06] <coz_> WIGGMPk,   this is strange...for some reason the system is dropping the driver for the dvd  or its being stopped by something  at least it sounds that way/// you could check in some of the logs to see what is going on but I am not real good at problem solving dvd players
[08:06] <bullgard4> oDuda: Good luck.
[08:07] <oDuda> bullgard4 sorry... rwindows in portuguese language is BADwindows...
[08:07] <WIGGMPk> fccf: Laptop drives sucks no more than any other drive.. They are built relativly the same way just in a more compact way. As i appreciate you thoughts on it, your not helping solve the problem only creating a work around.. (Drive works without trouble in Windows XP, Vista, 7 RC, Gutsy, Hardy, and Intrepid)
[08:08] <oDuda> bullgard4 can i download gnome-ppp at one time only ?
[08:08] <WIGGMPk> coz_: which log to look at though? im not good with sifting thru logs.. what titles should I look thru?
[08:08] <bullgard4> oDuda: Yes you can.
[08:08] <coz_> WIGGMPk,  good question I am searching now but which specific model of laptop is this?
[08:08] <WIGGMPk> coz_: ASUS, with an LG drive if that helps
[08:09] <oDuda> bullgard4 i cant find (remenber, i dont have connection to internet with linux)
[08:09] <coz_> WIGGMPk,   I will try to search this   no guarantees  :)  hold on
[08:09] <bullgard4> oDuda: What can you not find?
[08:09] <oDuda> bullgard4 the one file install gnome-ppp
[08:10] <WIGGMPk> coz_: np mate, I appreciate the help.. although my contacts are drying up something fierce
[08:10] <Slart> Neremor: you could combine "find" with that mogrify command
[08:10] <oDuda> bullgard4 sorry my English...
[08:10] <bullgard4> oDuda: You will normally find it in an Ubuntu repository.
[08:10] <oDuda> bullgard4 thank you !
[08:12] <coz_> WIGGMPk,   does this only happen when trying to burn with brasero?
[08:12] <oDuda> now i decided... ill remove ubuntu 9.04... it is not ready to use ( at least with dial up connections)...
[08:13] <zhiland> hi
[08:13] <coz_> oDuda,  did you go to #linux  to see if they could troubleshoot that issue for you?
[08:13] <zhiland> i got a problem with firefox can anyone help me out
[08:13] <WIGGMPk> coz_: no, it happens when Im ripping a CD or DVD to an ISO with Brasero or any other application, not usually when burning
[08:13] <oDuda> coz_ not yet but i can talk im tired...
[08:13] <coz_> WIGGMPk,   ok but you have tried other applications for this as well?
[08:13] <WIGGMPk> coz_: yes
[08:14] <coz_> oDuda,  ok dont give up until you try #linux at least a couple of times
[08:14] <coz_> WIGGMPk,  ok hold on
[08:14] <|Petrus|> hi guys...can someone here tell me what the default keymap is for X in Ubuntu?
[08:14] <oDuda> coz_ but the problem is about ubuntu exclusively...
[08:15]  * |Petrus| had a sweet setup with vim in Ubuntu, but when I moved to FreeBSD, it got messed up a bit...mostly cos arrow keys don't work as well under FreeBSD, at least when in terms under X.
[08:15] <coz_> oDuda,  have you tried this on other distributions?
[08:15] <|Petrus|> so I need to know what the Ubuntu X keymap was, so I can use it in FreeBSD
[08:15] <|Petrus|> anyone?
[08:15] <raden> anyone know how dramatically raid 1 will slow down a system ?????
[08:15] <oDuda> coz_ i only used ubuntu even now...
[08:16] <coz_> oDuda,  still try #linux  they dont bite  much
[08:16] <zhiland> im at the firefox help irc chat but noones there
[08:16] <coz_> :)
[08:16] <zhiland> cansome1 here hlep
[08:16] <raden> with 1 harddrive i could get my cpu usage on my E7200 upto 90 % running alot of apps bogging it down etc....
[08:16] <oDuda> coz_ thank you too much guy !
[08:16] <WIGGMPk> coz_: its unusable right now.. if you have some command to run to try and reuse it or some other test lol, I can troubleshoot it now.. When I restart it works again
[08:16] <raden> with raid 1 my system totally sluggish and my proc usage never over 45% and i mean slow firefox taking 20 seconds to open
[08:16] <raden> gnome takes almost 30 seconds to load
[08:17] <oDuda> in time to load 9.04 sucks
[08:17] <coz_> WIGGMPk,   out of curiosity the dvds you are trying to rip when this happens i asume the region code is  for your region??  just a  thought
[08:17] <raden> my dual core 2.8 E7200 w/ 8 gb ram and dual sata II drives is slower than my E5200 2.5 w/ 4 gb any ideas ?
[08:17] <zhiland> chance your raid settings in bios
[08:17] <zhiland> change
[08:18] <oDuda> raden too many machine power - sorry :-)
[08:18] <raden> zhiland, software raid
[08:18] <raden> zhiland, cant get ubuntu running off mobo raid card
[08:18] <WIGGMPk> coz_: yes, they are.. Some are personal DVD backups of just personal data and not encrypted or copyrighted
[08:18] <edogzilla> hello. i'm having a problem with my disk partitions. i dont know much about it can someone help?
[08:18] <Slart> edogzilla: what's the problem?
[08:18] <Tomodachi2> |Petrus:do you mean like insert and other key bindings?
[08:19] <coz_> WIGGMPk, ok it was just a though thinking the dvd player itself may be set to a different region code
[08:19] <raden> ill just have to wipe the system for the 3rd time today and start over i guess
[08:19] <zhiland> can i chat with some one who can help me with firefox?
[08:19] <RKR> Hi every body
[08:19] <Slart> zhiland: just ask your question.. if someone knows they will probably answer
[08:19] <darlek> !partition | edogzilla
[08:19] <bullgard4> oDuda: No, Ubuntu 9.04 does not suck. What sucks, is you. You should learn to use Ubuntu 9.04 and not blame it for faults that you are making.
[08:19] <coz_> WIGGMPk,  I am coming up with nothing guy  sorry  I am going to suggest  #linux  also  if you havent tried there
[08:20] <WIGGMPk> coz_: thanks for trying
[08:20] <edogzilla> i have 2 250 gb hd's on my comp. Windows xp is on one and 9.04 on the other. the problem is that only half of each HD is usable. i can't resize the partitions so that my whole hard drive is usable. that make sense?
[08:20] <coz_> WIGGMPk,  no problem just give #linux channel a shot  a couple times  in case  someone is not there right now
[08:20] <raden> anyone have any ideas for redundency without loss of performance
[08:20] <RKR> I have installed APTonCD in my system but when i tried to work with it after 70 % the error message is comming that "Fatal Error: Failed to fork" What can i do?
[08:21] <darlek> !gparted
[08:21] <raden> we have way to much valuable data to lose plus this machine runs are VOIP system
[08:21] <Slart> raden: buy a real raid card? but that will cost you lots of monies
[08:21] <zhiland> so, first when i open firefox, it said that it was already running and to close it, i fixed that by going into profile manager and deleteing my profiles and starting a new one. now, alot of the buttons on pages dont work (google, ubuntu forum login ect.)
[08:21] <edogzilla> i tried to use gparder to resize the partitions but for whatever reason the resize option is greyed out
[08:21] <raden> Slart, ill have to look into that a true hardware card with onboard memory etc...
[08:21] <zhiland> and it works flawlessly when i sudo firefox
[08:22] <zhiland> oh and also the back and forward buttons dont work
[08:22] <Slart> zhiland: never ever use sudo with gui apps..
[08:22] <Slart> !gksudo | zhiland
[08:22] <fennng> Anyone introduce a file manager under terminal?
[08:22] <edogzilla> is there another way to resize the partitions?
[08:23] <Slart> fennng: mc?
[08:23] <fennng> Slart: I will try mc
[08:23] <edogzilla> i paid alot of money for the bigger hard drives it would kill me to not be able to use them
[08:23] <zhiland> ok i see, im a newb so thats what i tried
[08:23] <Kevdude55> USB mouse not working, only works on reboot. Ideas?
[08:23] <Slart> edogzilla: hmm.. that sounds weird.. can you pastebin the output from "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[08:23] <Trentor> Gen Q: Anyone have a favorite media player that has iPod support?
[08:24] <edogzilla> slart: sorry but i have no idea what you just said
[08:24] <Slart> !paste | edogzilla
[08:24] <darlek> ubottu, the ubuntu bot has a lot of info in the link there,
[08:24] <Slart> edogzilla: or.. an easier way.. run this in a terminal  "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[08:24] <Trentor> ubottu: you are much intelligence <3
[08:25] <Slart> edogzilla: it will install a small program that does this "pastebinning" thing for you
[08:25] <edogzilla> slart. ok its installed. how do i use it?
[08:25] <RKR> ubottu: My APTonCD is not working please help me
[08:25] <Kevdude55> No one has any idea?
[08:25] <Slart> edogzilla: now run this "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit"
[08:26] <Gamarok__> !koffice
[08:26] <edogzilla> http://pastebin.com/f429e11ee
[08:26] <fennng> Slart: waaa, you reminded me, I have already installed mc. but it behave unexpected under putty, anything else?
[08:26] <zhiland> ok so now that im up to date with gksudo, how do i get it to function properly without using the terminal and just the button
[08:26] <edogzilla> slart: did i do that right?
[08:26] <Slart> edogzilla: it will first run the command "sudo fdisk -l" which prints out info on your harddrives.. then pipe that, " | " , to pastebinit.. which will post the info to a website and give you the url which you then tells us here.. so we can see what your harddrives/partitions look like
[08:26] <GW76> does anyone know how to install just the java plugins for ff?? not the whole java??
[08:27] <Slart> edogzilla: great.. you can go to that url yourself and see what it looks like
[08:27] <roccity_> zhiland, you can use this for a command in the button gksu "whatever program"
[08:27] <Kevdude55> help?
[08:27] <Slart> edogzilla: it should be the same you will get if you just run "sudo fdisk -l" on your computer
[08:27] <edogzilla> slart: heh. i don't understand any of it
[08:27] <Gamarok__> !koffice info
[08:27] <kz> bit of an off chance here but is there a way to make it when you click the top panel it brings the currently maximised window in the foreground into focus?
[08:27] <roccity_> zhiland, sorry gksudo
[08:27] <edogzilla> slart: k cool ty
[08:27] <Rapghere> I have installed APTonCD in my system but when i tried to work with it after 70 % the error message is comming that "Fatal Error: Failed to fork" What can i do?
[08:27] <zhiland> won that invoke the password promt every time?
[08:28] <kz> eg i have firefox maximised in the background, a few windows in the foreground, and i want to click the top panel to make firefox into focus
[08:28] <darlek> probably need to first sudo aptitude install pastebinit
[08:28] <roccity_> zhiland, so if I wanted to launch firefox as root I would use "gksudo firefox" without quotes
[08:28] <zhiland> fight i did that
[08:28] <zhiland> right
[08:28] <roccity_> zhiland, yeah it would but thats the put of root or sudo
[08:28] <zhiland> so the problem im having is when i dont do that, firefox is all jacked up
[08:29] <zhiland> like the buttons dont work in web pages, google doesnt work ect
[08:29] <darlek> !find pastebinit (if you haven't grabbed this already...)
[08:29] <fennng> ls
[08:29] <zhiland> so your saying just have it run that way all the time
[08:29] <Slart> edogzilla: ok, you're right.. two hard drives.. about 30.000 cylinders on each... first one cylinder 1-16708 is ntfs.. that's about half the available size... the ubuntu partition seems to be using the whole drive though
[08:29] <roccity_> zhiland, what about uninstalling firefox
[08:29] <kz> bit of an off chance here but is there a way to make it when you click the top panel it brings the currently maximised window in the foreground into focus? eg i have firefox maximised in the background, a few windows in the foreground, and i want to click the top panel to make firefox into focus
[08:29] <Arkhalis> still looking around to no avail... general answer is ubuntu doesn't work on the 1008HA eeepc yet
[08:30] <zhiland> in place of somthing else
[08:30] <zhiland> or just a reinstall
[08:30] <Arkhalis> guess i'll have to stick to windows xp for now ><
[08:30] <darlek> Arkhalis, isn't there a netbook iso?
[08:30] <nascentmind> Hi. When i play flash videos i don't get any sound in ubuntu jaunty. how can if fix it?
[08:30] <edogzilla> slart: then why when i go to places my drive tells me it has 137.4 GB? its a fresh install so i havent filled up the drive
[08:30] <Arkhalis> Yes
[08:30] <darlek> I thought i saw one
[08:30] <Arkhalis> i am using it
[08:30] <roccity_> zhiland, reinstall "sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox" from a terminal it may remove your settings to though
[08:30] <Slart> edogzilla: so you want the windows drive to use the entire first hard drive?
[08:31] <Arkhalis> problem is neither wired or wireless internet work on 9.04
[08:31] <edogzilla> slart: ubuntu too
[08:31] <darlek> argh i see
[08:31] <Arkhalis> i can't get either to work at all
[08:31] <zhiland> bummer, then what command to bring it back?
[08:31] <Slart> edogzilla: oh.. hmm.. is this an old computer?
[08:31] <edogzilla> slart: brand new
[08:31] <nascentmind> anybody?
[08:31] <darlek> Arkhalis, what type of wireless card?
[08:31] <Rapghere> Does any body know about APTonCD?
[08:31] <roccity_> zhiland, "sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:32] <Rapghere> Pls help me with APTonCD
[08:32] <Arkhalis> i have no idea the specifics of it...
[08:32] <darlek> !anybody
[08:32] <Slart> edogzilla: can you do the same with this command? "sudo df -h"
[08:32] <zhiland> same problem
[08:32] <Arkhalis> right now i need wired internet though which won't work
[08:32] <edogzilla> slart: what i would like is for each HD to be dedicated to its respective OS
[08:32] <Slart> edogzilla: ok, got it
[08:33] <fennng> mc with screen, messy!!
[08:33] <darlek> Arkhalis, lshw -network will tell you ;)
[08:33] <Rapghere> PLs help me with APTonCD
[08:33] <Arkhalis> in terminal?
[08:33] <kz> bit of an off chance here but is there a way to make it when you click the top panel it brings the currently maximised window in the foreground into focus? eg i have firefox maximised in the background, a few windows in the foreground, and i want to click the top panel to make firefox into focus cmon guyssssss lol
[08:33] <darlek> whoops not with -network...
[08:33] <roccity_> zhiland, ok you can purge firefox with the previous command to remove and then go to your home folder and remove the firefox directory
[08:33] <Slart> fennng: hmm.. not off the top of my head, no.. mc is the only one I've used.. sorry
[08:33] <darlek> yes terminal.. lshw... list hardware
[08:34] <edogzilla> slart:http://pastebin.com/f544dd465
[08:34] <kealc> Rapghere: have you read the user documentation?
[08:34] <Gamarok__> guys can anyone tell me what remastersys is
[08:34] <fennng> Slart: I found out that the problem is caused by screen,
[08:34] <zhiland> theres no firefox in my home folder
[08:34] <Arkhalis> the wireless is ar9285
[08:35] <Slart> edogzilla: ok, your ubuntu drive is curently 225 GB.. so that one is ok.. now go to the system menu, click on administration, partition editor
[08:35] <Arkhalis> i don't see anything for wired
[08:35] <roccity_> zhiland, what about .config
[08:35] <zhiland> etc there is
[08:35] <edogzilla> slart: done
[08:35] <zhiland> firefox-3.0
[08:36] <zhiland> in /etc
[08:36] <Slart> edogzilla: you should now see a graphical view of your hard drives.. one at a time.. you can change which drive you see in the top right corner
[08:36] <sysdoc> Looking for a HD cloning tool, have looked at partimage but doesn't appear that it can clone a partition from one HD to another.
[08:36] <zhiland> no .config in home
[08:36] <edogzilla> slart: yup
[08:36] <roccity_> zhiland, what about /etc/firefox/profile?
[08:36] <kealc> it's in .mozilla
[08:36] <kealc> isn't it?
[08:36] <Arkhalis> if i can get wired internet to work i'll be happy for now
[08:36] <roccity_> zhiland, and pref
[08:36] <Slart> edogzilla: your windows drive should be called /dev/sda
[08:37] <zhiland> delete em?
[08:37] <edogzilla> slart:yup i'm looking at it now
[08:37] <kealc> zhiland: .mozilla/firefox
[08:37] <hgg> How do I make my inbuit mic work...
[08:37] <Slart> sysdoc: if the partitions you want to copy from/to is exactly the same size you could use dd
[08:37] <darlek> Arkhalis, here's the results with my wifi cropped from lshw... so I have an Atheros chip.  http://pastebin.com/f193268d9
[08:37] <Slart> edogzilla: is the windows partition using only half the space?
[08:37] <edogzilla> slart: yes
[08:37] <zhiland> etc/firefox-3.0 thers pref and profile
[08:38] <edogzilla> salrt: 104.89 GB unnallocated
[08:38] <Slart> edogzilla: ok.. right click on the windows partition, select "Unmount"
[08:38] <darlek> top
[08:38] <Arkhalis> yeah mine is atheros
[08:38] <Arkhalis> AR9285
[08:38] <roccity_> zhiland, yeah after you purge firefox do locate | firefox and see what is left behind and delete that
[08:38] <edogzilla> slart; i dont see an unmount option
[08:38] <zhiland> k now what
[08:38] <Arkhalis> however, the wireless should work after installing compat-wireless
[08:38] <Arkhalis> but to do that i need wired internet
[08:38] <zhiland> reinstall
[08:38] <Arkhalis> which is where i am having issues
[08:39] <zhiland> and.... same problem
[08:39] <Arkhalis> i can't get wired internet
[08:39] <fosscape> omfg
[08:39] <fosscape> my ubuntu gicing error me
[08:39] <roccity_> zhiland, what is happening with your firefox? that the buttons and such is messed up?
[08:39] <edogzilla> slart: the unmount option is greyed out
[08:39] <Slart> edogzilla: hmm.. you right click on the windows partition, you get a small popup menu with "New", "Delete" etc?
[08:39] <fosscape> please ge held me i need hgelp
[08:39] <edogzilla> slart: yes...unmount is greyed out
[08:40] <zhiland> the back and forward buttons dont work, the google search bar doesnt work, and the links inside pages dont work
[08:40] <Slart> edogzilla: ok.. close the partition editor again
[08:40] <fosscape> i need help
[08:40] <fosscape> and then it work
[08:40] <fosscape> yes?
[08:40] <edogzilla> slart: done
[08:40] <zhiland> like logging into ubuntu ect
[08:40] <Slart> edogzilla: then run this in a terminal "sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs"
[08:40] <roccity_> zhiland, is it like that with other browsers as well?
[08:40] <sysdoc> Slart, I'm, looking to move my Ubuntu install to another drive. Not looking to keep the partitions the same size
[08:40] <Slart> edogzilla: it will install some tools for working with ntfs drives
[08:40] <zhiland> what another browser i could install
[08:40] <roccity_> zhiland, have you tried opera and galeon?
[08:41] <zhiland> ill try
[08:41] <kealc> zhiland: opera is quite nice
[08:41] <roccity_> zhiland, hold union break
[08:41] <edogzilla> slart: done
[08:41] <kealc> zhiland: I think opera.com has a .deb
[08:41] <fosscape> yes?
[08:41] <Slart> sysdoc: hmm.. then dd might now work.. but there has to be tools to do it.. I'll check in a minute
[08:41] <fosscape> yes?
[08:41] <fosscape> yes?
[08:41] <FloodBot3> fosscape: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:41] <Slart> edogzilla: ok, start the partition editor again
[08:41] <Slart> !attitude | fosscape
[08:41] <cyberjorge> hello everyone! :)
[08:41] <Rapghere> kealc: I read that but the error message is that "Fatal Error: Failed to Fork"
[08:42] <sysdoc> Slart,  ddrescue looks like it may work
[08:42] <edogzilla> slart: still cant unmount. can do a couple other things tho, but not unmount
[08:42] <edogzilla> slart: but i CAN resize
[08:42] <cyberjorge> anyone successfully used and configured mdm? a multiseat display manager?
[08:42] <Slart> edogzilla: well.. do you have a "Resize" option?
[08:42] <Slart> edogzilla: ah.. great.. lets do that
[08:42] <darlek> Arkhalis, not sure why you need wired connection.  I use madwifi for my Atheros card but you need linux header and linux ports installed first.  However once loaded the madwifi.sh script installs the drivers.  This is just a different driver than compat
[08:43] <edogzilla> slart: cool it worked, but why is my ubuntu HD messed up?
[08:43] <Slart> edogzilla: messed up? how is it messed up?
[08:43] <edogzilla> slart: when i go to places, it shows me my drive. it says it is 137.4 GB. but it should be just shy of 250
[08:44] <Slart> !info pcopy | sysdoc
[08:44] <Slart> edogzilla: that is the windows drive
[08:44] <edogzilla> slart: whoa. when i resizes the NTFS, it fixed the problem. cool thanx so much!
[08:44] <zhiland> wow, this is a pain in the butt, id rather just run firefox in kgsudo everytime
[08:45] <zhiland> gksudo
[08:45] <Slart> edogzilla: not the ubuntu drive.. the ubuntu drive is just called / ... you won't see that in places or "Computer"
[08:45] <kealc> zhiland: where did you get firefox from?
[08:45] <Gamarok__> !iceweasel
[08:45] <Slart> edogzilla: you're welcome
[08:45] <edogzilla> now if someone could just make wine not suck so bad I'd be golden!
[08:45] <zhoujingrui> i need a help
[08:45] <kealc> edogzilla: lol
[08:45] <zhiland> ubuntu
[08:45] <zhoujingrui> my  ubuntu 8.10 no sound at all
[08:45] <zhiland> built in theses days
[08:45] <roccity_> zhiland, ok what happened in the other browser
[08:45] <zhiland> lol
[08:46] <hgg> Hi.. Sound input does not seem to be working for me.. I am not able record sound with Sound Recorder application.. But it works for me in windows.. So it is not a hardware issue.. Can someone please help?
[08:46] <Slart> edogzilla: well.. we've got this cryogenic freezing thing... wait 10 years or so.. =)
[08:46] <zhiland> havent done it
[08:46] <zhiland> im having other problems
[08:46] <zhiland> im just starting with the biggest
[08:46] <roccity_> zhiland, like what
[08:47] <zhiland> when i try to loggoff the taskbar dissapears
[08:47] <edogzilla> slart: sign me up for the freezer! i wanna play my freaking game already!
[08:47] <roccity_> zhiland, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:47] <zhiland> like when i click the button
[08:47] <zhiland> 8.04
[08:47] <zhiland> ithink
[08:47] <darlek> !sound | hgg
[08:47] <zhiland> hold on
[08:47] <roccity_> zhiland, as it should if you log off
[08:47] <kealc> hgg: double-click on the sound, go to preferances and add microphone, turn the volume up
[08:47] <zhiland> no like when i click the running guy, it should pop up with some options right? like shutdown restart loggoff
[08:48] <roccity_> zhiland, yeah
[08:48] <zhiland> well it just makes my taskbar dissapear
[08:48] <hgg> thanx  let me check it out
[08:48] <roccity_> zhiland, if you type in a terminal uname -a what does it say
[08:48] <zhiland> and i have to alt tab between stuff and hope my term doesnt close
[08:49] <roccity_> zhiland, is this a fresh install?
[08:49] <zhiland> Linux zach-desktop 2.6.24-24-generic #1 SMP Wed Apr 15 15:54:25 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:49] <hgg> kealc: How do I double click on sound ? where is the icon?
[08:49] <sparr> I need to defragment my /home...  shake doesn't seem to accomplish anything, what do I need to do to "make it work"?
[08:49] <roccity_> zhiland, have you upgraded anything?
[08:49] <kealc> hgg: can you play sound?
[08:50] <zhiland> been running for awile, havent done anything major, did the ntfs 3g thing so i could use my other drives
[08:50] <zhiland> had to use the force option
[08:50] <kealc> hgg: the icon should be to your right, near the time
[08:50] <kealc> top right
[08:50] <roccity_> zhiland, are you on broadband?
[08:50] <darlek> he could be using an older kernel and still load Jaunty.  I did this with Ibex when I had problems with wifi.  However if there is a program need for a kernal file only then there would be an error or no action
[08:50] <zhiland> vios
[08:51] <zhiland> fios
[08:51] <zhiland> fiber optic
[08:51] <zhiland> 35 up 40 down
[08:51] <roccity_> zhiland, if you open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get upgrade" what happens?
[08:51] <goal_lax> Hello! I want to have kde instead of gnome, is it enough to apply sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop to remove all the package belonging to gnome?
[08:52] <zhiland> sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:52] <zhiland> [sudo] password for jeremy:
[08:52] <zhiland> Reading package lists... Done
[08:52] <zhiland> Building dependency tree
[08:52] <zhiland> Reading state information... Done
[08:52] <zhiland> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:52] <FloodBot3> zhiland: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:52] <JNSamuel> failbot. -
[08:52] <geirha> zhiland: gnome-panel is likely printing some error messages when it crashes. Those messages end up in ~/.xsession-errors . Open that file in an editor and see if you see any errors related to gnome-panel
[08:53] <darlek> hgg, System > Preferences > Sound, then select Alsa or other items in the middle of the window
[08:53] <Gamarok__> !xchat
[08:53] <zhiland> its empty
[08:53] <stratovarius> hi all
[08:54] <Guest21081>  Sadly I just noticed an hour ago that (x-1)!*x=x!
[08:54] <Guest21081> =/
[08:54] <b0r3d> hi.  Is there a command line MSN client?  Just like psyBNC or zIRC that remain in the background and they all you to conncet to them from your local client
[08:54] <JNSamuel> b0r3d: I suggest bitlebee, you can use your IRC client
[08:54] <stratovarius> how to mount ntfs in reading and writing? i already mout them in reading only but i'd like to write too...how to modify my fstab? those are the 2 lines related to my ntfs partitions /dev/sda1    /media/sda1 ntfs  umask=0222  0    0
[08:54] <stratovarius> /dev/sda5    /media/sda5 ntfs  umask=0222  0    0
[08:55] <hajder> hi I have set up a cron job with with crontab -e for my user. The job is simple, it echoes the date to a file and is set to run every min. But the file is empty :(. Is there an explicit command for starting the cron ?
[08:55] <geirha> zhiland: I doubt it's empty. You might have typed the filename wrong so it opened a new file. Try in a terminal: cat ~/.xs<tab>
[08:55] <b0r3d> JNSamuel, i'm interesting in an msn client..
[08:56] <darlek> !fstab | stratovarius
[08:56] <zhiland> jeremy@jeremy-desktop:~$ cat ~/.xs<tab>
[08:56] <zhiland> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[08:56] <zhiland> jeremy@jeremy-desktop:~$
[08:57] <geirha> zhiland: Type cat ~/.xs, then hit the TAB key to auto-complete it
[08:58] <Taejo> I want to do a fresh install of Ubuntu. I want to download all the necessary files at university (where I have a fast connection to a mirror). What files should I download to do an install, and how do I install from harddrive?
[08:59] <kholerabbi> According to system monitor I am using bandwidth I don't expect to be using - how can I see network activity for processes?
[08:59] <Gamarok__> !x chat
[08:59] <zhiland> cat: /home/jeremy/.xs: No such file or directory
[08:59] <darlek> !info xchat
[09:00] <fccf> kholerabbi -- netstat -ntap will show what is connected
[09:00] <kholerabbi> fccf: thank you
[09:00] <fccf> kholerabbi: np
[09:00] <Trentor> Question: My laptop keyboard is querty, I have a dvorak usb keyboard, when I change the keyboard default to dvorak it only changes the laptop keyboard, how do I change it to dvorak on my usb keyboard?
[09:01] <mirage> Hi, I am Mirage
[09:01] <mirage> Any sexy girl here?
[09:02] <fccf> appropriate! mirage
[09:02] <JNSamuel> this is not a porn channel.
[09:02] <JNSamuel> -
[09:02] <simion314> Taejo  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux, see there at without cd
[09:02] <darlek> !dvorak (don't know if that will help)
[09:02] <darlek> !dvorak
[09:02] <darlek> nope
[09:02] <darlek> hmm
[09:02] <Taejo> simion314: great, just what I was looking for
[09:03] <Trentor> darlek: I know what dvorak looks like
[09:03] <geirha> zhiland: That's weird. Are the panels gone at the moment?
[09:03] <sisak> hali
[09:03] <zhiland> nope
[09:04] <Trentor> but it will change the settings for my laptop not my usb keyboard
[09:04] <geirha> zhiland: Open an extra terminal, then click the button that makes it crash, then in the terminal, try to start the panels again by running "gnome-panel"
[09:05] <zhiland> that brought em back
[09:05] <darlek> !install
[09:05] <geirha> zhiland: Try making it crash again, and pastebin the output in the terminal, if any
[09:06] <zeeble> Is there a way to enable compiz/desktop effects in Jaunty 904? I have a dell 1525 inspiron, and desktop effects dont seem to work
[09:06] <darlek> Sorry trentor I was seeing if the ubottu bot had anything on it
[09:07] <fccf> zeeble: run lspci and post to pastebin
[09:07] <zhiland> i think if post the output ittl block me
[09:07] <geirha> !paste | zhiland
[09:07] <hoohaah> i plan on setting up a debian sid box alongside my ubuntu box. Will most versions be similar, and are all maintenance procedures the same?
[09:07] <raghav> hey all sorry just new to ubuntu
[09:07] <darlek> usually you have to first sudo aptitude install pastebinit on ubuntu as it's not already loaded
[09:08] <hoohaah> zhiland: apt-get install pastebinit, and you can use upload shell output or files easily
[09:08] <darlek> ftw
[09:08] <hoohaah> quality > timing
[09:08] <raghav> so is this the place for asking for help
[09:08] <raghav> or can we just chat normally
[09:08] <zeeble> fccf: http://pastebin.com/m5c2abd3d  it is a intel GMA965 chipset
[09:09] <mirage> I am a sexy boy here
[09:09] <darlek> !ot |mirage
[09:09] <hoohaah> raghav: our asses are unplugged, if that's what you mean
[09:09] <hoohaah> think mule playing rock guitar
[09:09] <raghav> look im new what u mean?
[09:09] <fccf> zeeble: ok, now post your xorg.conf
[09:10] <zhiland> ok installed how od i use it
[09:10] <zhiland> how do i use pastbin?
[09:10] <hoohaah> raghav: it means you can ask ubuntu questions (mind you, not every little thing you can't solve.. consult ubuntu help pages or google first) but we don't have any stern nazi ops
[09:11] <zeeble> fccf: o.o my xorg.conf is a blank file .. atleast the one in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:11] <hoohaah> zhiland: pastebinit /path/to/file
[09:11] <raghav> ok
[09:11] <raghav> thank youi
[09:11] <geirha> zhiland: Run pastebinit in another terminal, copy paste the data to where you're running pastebinit, then hit Ctrl+D
[09:11] <raghav> how do i invite my other friends
[09:11] <raghav> ?
[09:11] <darlek> have the output of a command piped to pastebinit, ie: lshw | pastebinit and it will spit out a URL
[09:11] <geirha> zhiland: err no, sorry, strike that
[09:11] <zeeble> you dont invite friends on IRC, raghav
[09:11] <fccf> zeeble: you shouldn't have a blank file... x wont start without something readable there
[09:12] <kanon-mat> invite? just join
[09:12] <raghav> ok
[09:12] <hoohaah> zhiland: if you're using irssi, you can output result of pastebinit command in channel for all to see
[09:12] <Gamarok__> this is a support channel raghav
[09:12] <raboof> one of my network printers is marked 'stopped' because it coulnd't be resolved
[09:12] <hoohaah> not sure of other irc clients
[09:12] <zhiland> so just copy and paste
[09:12] <zhoujingrui> anyone help me?