[00:16] <xv3> hi
[00:17] <xv3> i have aa problem in my kubuntu, when i send the comand sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[00:17] <xv3> da um erro
[00:17] <xv3> show me a error
[00:17] <xv3> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[00:17] <xv3> Reading package lists... Done
[00:17] <xv3> Building dependency tree
[00:17] <xv3> Reading state information... Done
[00:17] <xv3> E: Couldn't find package firefox-3.0
[00:18] <stdin> xv3: are you on hardy?
[00:18] <xv3> yes
[00:18] <stdin> then just install the "firefox" package
[00:18] <xv3> i just install it
[00:19] <xv3> i just install kubuntu
[00:19] <xv3> i known why now
[00:19] <xv3> lol
[00:19] <xv3> i should do
[00:19] <xv3> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[00:19] <xv3> Reading package lists... Done
[00:19] <xv3> Building dependency tree
[00:19] <xv3> Reading state information... Done
[00:19] <xv3> E: Couldn't find package firefox-3.0
[00:20] <xv3>  the first update first
[00:20] <stdin> !paste
[00:20] <stdin> xv3: and the package is called "firefox" not "firefox-3.0"
[00:20] <xv3> it's called fi
[00:20] <xv3> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[00:20] <xv3> Reading package lists... Done
[00:20] <xv3> Building dependency tree
[00:20] <xv3> Reading state information... Done
[00:20] <xv3> E: Couldn't find package firefox-3.0
[00:20] <dr_Willis> It is helpfull to get package names right. :)
[00:20] <dr_Willis> !info firefox
[00:20] <xv3> sorry
[00:21] <stdin> xv3: stop pasting that
[00:21] <xv3> bug in my keyboard
[00:21] <xv3> not my bad
[00:35] <zona> hola
[00:36] <ISS_student> I need help with sound anybody on that can assist me?
[00:37] <dr_Willis> little patience :) heh
[00:41] <wainwright> Hi. I was just wondering if anyone would be willing to help me get extract a tar archive. The external hard drive uses a file system that does not support characters in the archive so I need to be able to extract it to the home directory... I have managed to find the command for extracting, I just don't know how to change the directory it is extracted to.
[00:42] <crimsun> wainwright: tar xf foo.tar; cd wherever
[00:43] <crimsun> wainwright: if you want to see the verbose operation, use tar xvf foo.tar
[00:43] <wainwright> Thank you.
[00:53] <x_bandit> hi
[00:53] <milesd> Hi all. I just did the Gutsy-to-Hardy upgrade and my wireless card stopped working. Unfortunately, I've also discovered that using Ubuntu where everything usually just works has made me stupid.
[00:54] <x_bandit> i have a amd 780g chipset and i have troubles with my sound. its all ok and the modules are loaded but i cannot hear any sound!?
[00:55] <milesd> When I insert it, I get some messages on /dev/xconcole about nm_device_802_11_wireless_scan(): (eth2) could not trigger wirless scan: Network is down
[00:56] <milesd> and also some "could not load firmware" messages.
[00:57] <milesd> anybody have some ideas on how to debug this further? I'm stumped
[00:58] <lumeria> hallo.. ik heb wat hulp nodig bij het installeren van een ati radeon 9550 driver voor kubuntu 8.04
[00:59] <genii> milesd: Sounds like you're using ndiswrapper. Find the windows driver cd for your network card and find the .inf file and possibly the .sys file as well. Then make a directory in /lib/firmware something like: sudo mkdir /lib/firmware/mydriver       and put the .inf (and possibly .sys file) in there.  Then issue: sudo ndiswrapper -i /lib/firmware/mydriver/infname.inf
[00:59] <genii> !nl | lumeria
[00:59] <lumeria> oh english here... k
[01:00] <milesd> genii, no, I'm definitely not using ndiswrapper
[01:00] <lumeria> i need some help with installing ati radeon 9550 on kubuntu..
[01:00] <milesd> genii, I specifically bought this card so I wouldn't have to
[01:00] <genii> milesd: "could not load firmware" indicates ndiswrapper
[01:01] <milesd> genii, huh
[01:01]  * milesd checks on native drivers
[01:02] <genii> lumeria: Perhaps look at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide
[01:02] <tyfon> firmware is used for native drivers too :p
[01:02] <lumeria> thanks genii... iḿ fresh to kubuntu
[01:03] <milesd> lumeria, There is an open source driver called "radeon" which has support for some ATI cards and has good GL support and another one called "ati" which supports many more ATI cards but no GL
[01:03] <tyfon> usually its just a package to install and it should work.. on my laptop at least it comes into the restricted driver utility
[01:03] <milesd> lumeria, if I were you, I'd look up your wireless card to see if the "radeon" driver supports it
[01:04] <milesd> lumeria, in the worst case kubuntu will default to VGA settings for your card, so you might as well put the hardware in
[01:04] <genii> milesd: The radeon 9550 is an ATI(AMD) video card and not a wireless networking card
[01:04] <milesd> genii, yes...
[01:05]  * milesd was offering help in an area not related to his own problem
[01:05] <genii> milesd: So why should he be looking up his wireless card to see if the radeon driver suports it?
[01:05] <milesd> oooh!
[01:05] <lumeria> milesd: ati radeon 9550 is a graphics card...
[01:05] <milesd> I *did* type that, didn't I?
[01:05] <milesd> lumeria, sorry, I meant "video"
[01:05] <milesd> just a mis-type
[01:06] <lumeria> i think the driver is wrong there... installing a video as wireledd...
[01:07] <lumeria> tried several times to check the box in the hardware manager but it results in a "out of range" msg ...
[01:07] <lumeria> trying aticonfig results in a failed msg..
[01:08] <genii> lumeria: The link I provided gives two ways of installing, the first is for the regular way in Ubuntu (which also works in Kubuntu), the second way is the manual install way, further down the page
[01:08] <genii> lumeria: "out of range" indicates the video card is making a resolution the monitor cannot do
[01:08] <lumeria> genii: iḿ on that link now reading...  think it will help me very much.... thank you
[01:09] <lumeria> trying to change resolution gives me a fail....
[01:10] <genii> milesd: What is the make and model of your wireless card?
[01:10] <lumeria> using ati catalist tells me the driver is not installed..
[01:12] <genii> lumeria: Please try first "Method 1" in the tutorial, exactly and step by step, reading carefully the instructions.
[01:14] <milesd> genii, wpc54g v3.1
[01:15] <milesd> broadcom 4318 wlan, according to b43-phyl
[01:16] <milesd> lumeria, which driver are you using?
[01:16] <lumeria> milesd: how to check that?
[01:16] <milesd> oh, and BTW, does anybody know how to start the "restricted drivers manager" in hardy?
[01:17] <milesd> lumeria, look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:17] <milesd> lumeria, actually I shouldn't confuse you with two different approaches, I'll bet the link genii sent will work fine
[01:18] <genii> milesd: alt-f2     jockey-kde
[01:19] <lumeria> milesd: /etc does exist but /X11 does not...   i have a failed install???
[01:19] <milesd> lumeria, ah, have you ever used an LSB file-system before?
[01:20] <milesd> lumeria, or are you more familiar with a windows-style C:\... file-system?
[01:21] <lumeria> iḿ windows but did linux red hat 7.3 for over a jear...  now i wanted to "go back" to linux..
[01:21] <milesd> lumeria, ok, well the /etc directory contains a directory called X11
[01:21] <milesd> lumeria, you're quite correct that there is no /X11
[01:21] <milesd> try /etc/X11
[01:21] <milesd> or
[01:21] <milesd> cd /etc
[01:21] <milesd> cd X11
[01:22] <milesd> (note that "cd X11" doesn't use a / before "X11")
[01:22] <lumpycow>  what's involved in setting up a wacom tablet?
[01:22] <lumeria> no it does not...  i checked in konsole (terminal) .. step by step on the first fail..
[01:24] <Tinason> where can i see the changes that are in 8.04.1 ?
[01:24] <Conundrum_> hi
[01:24] <Tinason> hi
[01:24] <Conundrum_> anyone have any idea why i can't edit any settings in system settings for kde 4.1 beta 2?
[01:25] <genii> #kubuntu-kde4 please Conundrum_
[01:27] <milesd> lumeria, huh... Can you see any graphics at all, or are you getting a text-based prompt?
[01:30] <lumeria> sorry milesd....  i wasn logged in as root....  it's there... how to read the content? sorry for being a n00b ..
[01:30] <milesd> lumeria, np, irc is for n00bs
[01:30] <milesd> lumeria, There should be a bit called "Section "Device""
[01:31] <lumeria> lol...  and for teachers...
[01:31] <milesd> and inside it should have some note about a video card
[01:31] <milesd> lumeria, and a driver
[01:31] <milesd> lumeria, for example, mine reads: Section "Device"
[01:31] <milesd>     Identifier     "Generic Video Card"
[01:31] <milesd>     Driver         "nvidia"
[01:31] <milesd> EndSection
[01:31] <lumeria> iḿ in konsole... what command do i use to open the file?
[01:32] <milesd> lumeria, "less" is a good one
[01:32] <milesd> lumeria, you can use the arrow keys to move around
[01:32] <tinin> hey, what's the fastest way to transfer files in a LAN with the file manager?
[01:32] <milesd> lumeria, but you can't accidentally change anything
[01:34] <lumeria> milesd: there is no drivers or cards at all....  just Section input device keyboard and section input mouse... thats it...
[01:34] <bdizzle> hi, I'm having problems connecting wireless with my laptop via WEP on my home computer. WEP works from work and WPA-PEAP works from school. After working with Verizon, they got it to work on my XP Pro side, but I cannot get it to connect on the Kubuntu partition.
[01:34] <bdizzle> currently I'm pinging off a neighbor's wireless
[01:35] <milesd> lumeria, huh
[01:35] <milesd> lumeria, is your video hardware physically installed?
[01:36] <milesd> lumeria, if so, try running (as root) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:37] <milesd> lumeria, it will bring up a text-based UI called curses to help you configure Xwindows
[01:37] <milesd> lumeria, though it's highly unusual that a kubuntu machine would get installed with this incorrectly done
[01:37] <lumeria> no....  in hardware device manager if i check the atibox my screen goes out of range but when trying to adjust is msg that the driver is not installed..
[01:38] <milesd> genii, ooh, the jockey-kde hint was all I needed, I got my wireless card working, thank you so much. :)
[01:38] <lumeria> milesd: i can pm you the file somehow to see for yourself.... it's really weird..
[01:41] <Tinason> can anyone tell me what was updated / changed in kubuntu 8.04.1 ?
[01:42] <lumeria> milesd: i closed the session and logged in again... now it's complete .. Section "Device" identifier "Configured Video Device" driver "fglrx"...
[01:44] <bdizzle> another questoin
[01:44] <bdizzle> with the updates, my GRUB menu is getting a bit busy. Is there a way to delete the entries from previous kernel versions and just keep the current one listed?
[01:46] <Githzerai> bdizzle: sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:46] <bdizzle> thank you
[01:47] <Githzerai> bdizzle: if old kernels are lited that's it, if not remeo ve them manualy with sudo apt-get remove linux-image-<number>-generic
[01:47] <Githzerai> *listed
[01:48] <bdizzle> ok
[01:55] <minhaaj> !ati
[01:57] <lumpycow> !wacom
[01:57] <lumpycow> !tablet
[02:06] <Guest72362> going crazy can't figure out why the system can't find the documentation in help.
[02:08] <Guest72362> i think kubuntu is scrapts
[02:10] <CostaRicanQuake> ok something f**** up has happened
[02:10] <CostaRicanQuake> first off...i installed windows again because i had a virus
[02:10] <CostaRicanQuake> so grub-s gone
[02:11] <CostaRicanQuake> so i go to the grub page and what to do
[02:11] <minhaaj> how do i get owners right for root directory ?
[02:11] <CostaRicanQuake> and i download this grub superdisk or whatever
[02:11] <CostaRicanQuake> it doesnt work it doesnt bring grub back
[02:11] <CostaRicanQuake> i cant access ubuntu
[02:11] <CostaRicanQuake> so someone suggests i get wubi and from it install grub
[02:11] <CostaRicanQuake> so i download wubi, at the end it tells me it has to reboot
[02:11] <CostaRicanQuake> so then it reboots and then it asks me how do i want to boot up
[02:12] <CostaRicanQuake> as windows or as ubuntu
[02:12] <CostaRicanQuake> i enter on ubuntu
[02:12] <CostaRicanQuake> and what happens is it looks like its installing itself or something
[02:12] <wainwright> Hey. Firefox 3 does not appear to be detecting the Sun Java plugin... Does anyone know how to fix this?
[02:12] <CostaRicanQuake> and i don-t like this, it says loading partitioner and all of this
[02:12] <minhaaj> what are you trying to do wainwright  ?
[02:12] <CostaRicanQuake> my intention is not to install anything but hve access to my ubuntu&kubuntu&xubuntu
[02:13] <CostaRicanQuake> so then it reboots
[02:13] <CostaRicanQuake> and when i choose ubuntu again from the bootup
[02:13] <wainwright> minhaaj: Trying to get java recognised by Firefox.
[02:13] <wainwright> The sun java plugin.
[02:13] <CostaRicanQuake> i get this weird prompt or whatever that is not ubuntu-s
[02:13] <CostaRicanQuake> please help me fix this
[02:14] <CostaRicanQuake> the guys at ubuntu tlak too much, too fast and respond too little
[02:14] <wainwright> Tools > Addons > Plugins and Sun Java is not there.
[02:14] <CostaRicanQuake> so i need to be able to run my previously installed ubuntu&kubuntu/xubuntu
[02:14] <CostaRicanQuake> so please someone tell me how to access it
[02:14] <CostaRicanQuake> because the wubi thing clearly didnt work
[02:15] <CostaRicanQuake> and please don-t tell the bot to grub, i already did whats on that page where it says open from windows
[02:15] <CostaRicanQuake> and grub never came up
[02:16] <wainwright> minhaaj: My brother wants to play Runescape but we keep getting an error.
[02:16] <Githzerai> CostaRicanQuake: Use your live cd and fix it.
[02:17] <CostaRicanQuake> the only live cd i have
[02:17] <CostaRicanQuake> is an old breezy one
[02:17] <CostaRicanQuake> and how do i fix it from the live cd?
[02:17] <Githzerai> CostaRicanQuake: alternate ?
[02:17] <Githzerai> CostaRicanQuake: as in: U have alternate cd ?
[02:18] <CostaRicanQuake> how do you mean? i have an old version of ubuntu which i've hd to install five times
[02:18] <CostaRicanQuake> so what do i do? open the laternate cd
[02:18] <CostaRicanQuake> then go to the options
[02:19] <CostaRicanQuake> and look for install grub?
[02:19] <CostaRicanQuake> im going to try the old install cd
[02:19] <CostaRicanQuake> brb
[02:19] <Githzerai> CostaRicanQuake: I just don't get what version u have. :)
[02:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> i forgot the nickname of the person i just spoke to
[02:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> but here's what happened
[02:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> i was able to boot up my old ubuntu desktop  in the other partition
[02:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> and i have a mounted partition the ntsf one
[02:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> and i had installed wubi
[02:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> so there's a  folder in the ntsf(windows) partition
[02:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> that says ubuntu
[02:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> and i wonder if thats wubi
[02:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> and wether i can uninstall it?
[03:09] <regital> hey
[03:10] <regital> im on kubuntu 8.04 and i was just wondering how do i change the icon of lets say firefox?
[03:12] <ben__> Is anyone here familiar with C++ software for linux
[03:31] <regital> im on kubuntu 8.04 and i was sondering how to change icons on a program/folder and what not. how could i do that?
[03:31] <regital> program shortcuts that is... or anything basically
[03:32] <dthacker> ben__: do you mean the c++ compiler, or software written in c++
[03:33] <dthacker> regital: are you on KDE3 or KDE4?
[03:40] <raggedraweroor> anyone no how to retrieve contacts off of kopete msn?
[03:40] <raggedraweroor> ones that are missing that is?
[03:42] <raggedraweroor> wtf
[03:43] <raggedraweroor> frusytrated
[03:44] <kermitthefrog> ya
[03:45] <kermitthefrogonw> d
[03:45] <kermitfrogonweed> does anyone know anything on here?
[03:46] <dthacker> !patience
[03:46] <kermitfrogonweed> tryin to learn
[03:46] <kermitfrogonweed> sorryppllll
[03:56] <beaver> LU ALL
[04:10] <dsmith_> what the quickest way to reorganize kde menu
[05:08] <sgallinger> how can I check if fglrx is working properly ??
[05:08] <flaccid_> sgallinger, fglrxinfo and check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:10] <flaccid_> brb
[05:10] <sgallinger> hmm I guess its no because I have to install xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:12] <sgallinger> !fglrx
[05:21] <_2> does kicker support --server= ?
[05:22] <_2> or --display= ?
[05:22] <_2> nm i found it.
[05:29] <crackerjack> salut
[05:31] <StevenX> hello all. I am having a problem with keyboard shortcuts. I go into settings, but I only see settings for 2 shortcuts. The rest are gone. How can I fix this?
[05:35] <penguincentral> hi.  i need to make a tar.gz archive of my home folder.  how do i go about doing this?
[05:36] <dthacker> penguincentral: check the man pages for tar
[05:36] <StevenX> hello all. I am having a problem with keyboard shortcuts. I go into settings, but I only see settings for 2 shortcuts. The rest are gone. How can I fix this?
[05:36] <penguincentral> dthacker: i've tried using tar but every time i try an error message comes up
[05:36] <penguincentral> and ark doesn't seem to wokr
[05:36] <penguincentral> work*
[05:37] <dthacker> !repeat | Stevenx
[05:37] <dthacker> penguincentral: the error message would help :).......
[05:37] <penguincentral> one sec mate
[05:38] <dthacker> penguincentral: if it's longer than 2 lines , please use pastebin
[05:38] <dthacker> !pastebin
[05:38] <penguincentral> dthacker: it's only one line
[05:39] <penguincentral> dthacker: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[05:40] <dthacker> penguincentral: ok.  What is the path to the directory you want to make a tar archive of?
[05:41] <penguincentral> dthacker: /home/matt (~)
[05:41] <psycholic> did a recent update kill the grub?
[05:41] <psycholic> my computer keeps stoping on the bootloader
[05:42] <psycholic> all it has is a prompt that says grub>
[05:42] <sgallinger> !fglrx
[05:42] <sgallinger> does fglrx take up much memory
[05:43] <dthacker> penguincentral:  where to you want the archive file to end up?
[05:43] <dthacker> penguincentral: which directory do you want to put it in?
[05:44] <penguincentral> dthacker: the home folder would be great
[05:44] <penguincentral> dthacker: is there a system public folder on kubuntu?
[05:45] <dthacker> penguincentral: I'm going to do this in two steps, because I don't know what compression utilities you have installed.
[05:45] <penguincentral> right-o
[05:45] <penguincentral> i know i have tar
[05:45] <penguincentral> ;)
[05:48] <dthacker> penguincentral: give me 2 mins to test something.....
[05:48] <penguincentral> sure, ping me when yo're done
[05:48] <penguincentral> you're*
[05:51] <sgallinger> how do you turn the sound of in konversation ?
[05:53] <dthacker> penguincentral:  from /home issue this command:  tar cvfz matthome.tar.gz matt/*    The z option is for gzip
[06:00] <DarthFrog> Does anyone know how to force Konqueror to use KWallet?  I deleted the wrong wallet and now Konq asks me for account/password info each time I access certain sites, instead of offering to save the info in Kwallet.
[06:01] <sgallinger> !fglrx
[06:03] <penguincentral> dthacker: one sec i'll get you a pastebin
[06:05] <sgallinger> what is the package for the c compiler ?
[06:05] <DarthFrog> gcc
[06:05] <sgallinger> duh thanks
[06:05] <dthacker> foo
[06:09] <penguincentral> dthacker: http://pastebin.ca/1063517
[06:09] <penguincentral> ^ the error message that came up
[06:09] <aleboco> hi guys, if i want to put a script in the .kde/Autostart
[06:10] <aleboco> what kint of permission I have to use to render it executable?
[06:10] <aleboco> sorry, kind
[06:10] <dthacker> penguincentral: are you in /hime?  type pwd
[06:10] <DarthFrog> aleboco: +x
[06:10] <aleboco> so chmod +x /my/file
[06:10] <penguincentral> dthacker: i'm pretty sure i'm in home
[06:11] <DarthFrog> aleboco: Should work.
[06:11] <penguincentral> dthacker: matt@matt-kubuntu-vmware:~$ pwd
[06:11] <penguincentral> /home/matt
[06:11] <dthacker> penguincentral: type pwd and find out
[06:11] <aleboco> DarthFrog, even if the command in the script requires sudo?
[06:11] <DarthFrog> aleboco: FYI, +x on a directory allows permission to enter the directory.
[06:12] <dthacker> aha!  you are in /home/matt.  You need to be in /home.  type 'cd ..' to move up one level
[06:12] <DarthFrog> aleboco: Nope.
[06:12] <penguincentral> dthacker: tar: z: Cannot open: Permission denied
[06:12] <penguincentral> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[06:12] <aleboco> darthfrog, and what can i do? i'm trying powertop
[06:12] <DarthFrog> aleboco: you need to set the SUID bit. :-)
[06:13] <Taggnostr> hello, where can I find information about the linux version I'm running and other useful info? (I need them for a bug report)
[06:13] <aleboco> darthfrog, ??
[06:13] <DarthFrog> aleboco: what are the permissions on the file now?
[06:13] <dthacker> penguincentral: issue the command with sudo.  From /home issue:  tar cvfz matthome.tar.gz matt/*
[06:14] <aleboco> DarthFrog, read and write for the user
[06:15] <aleboco> DarthFrog, how can i check by command line?
[06:15] <DarthFrog> aleboco:  Do an "ls -l <filename>"
[06:15] <dthacker> Taggnostr: lsb_release -a
[06:16] <aleboco> DarthFrog, -rw-r--r-- 1 antonio adm 36 2008-07-06 14:58 ipw
[06:16] <aleboco> DarthFrog, it's in Autostart
[06:17] <Taggnostr> it says "no LSB modules are available" and then Ubuntu / Ubuntu 8.04.1 / 8.04 / Hardy
[06:17] <Agent_bob> ok   i have an issue with "startkde"   kde3
[06:17] <DarthFrog> aleboco: and it's intended to be executable as root?  If so, then "chmod 4755 ipw" is what you want.
[06:17] <Agent_bob> it wont accept  --display :$(>1)
[06:18] <Agent_bob> or actually greater than 0
[06:18] <DarthFrog> aleboco:  rwsr-xr-x should be the new permissions.
[06:18] <dthacker> Taggnostr: there you go!  8.04.1 :)
[06:18] <aleboco> DarthFrog, so, let say if i understood: for root chmod 4755 /file/name
[06:18] <aleboco> DarthFrog, and for normal user permission it's chmod -X /file/name
[06:18] <DarthFrog> aleboco: Yes.
[06:18] <Agent_bob> someone tell me how to get startkde to start_kde on something besides :0   please
[06:18] <Taggnostr> ok, if they will need other info they will ask :P
[06:19] <Agent_bob> DarthFrog suid ?
[06:19] <DarthFrog> aleboco:  for normal user, chmod +x adds 111 to the permissions.
[06:19] <dthacker> Agent_bob: display?
[06:19] <DarthFrog> Agent_bob: Are you asking what SUID is?
[06:20] <aleboco> DarthFrog, thanks a lot
[06:20] <Agent_bob> dthacker yeah   xservers above 0
[06:20] <Agent_bob> DarthFrog heh no.
[06:20] <Agent_bob> DarthFrog just wondering why/what was suid there
[06:20] <dthacker> Agent_bob: remote X?
[06:20] <DarthFrog> aleboco: File permissions are an octal bitmap.
[06:20] <Agent_bob> dthacker no local
[06:20] <Agent_bob> dthacker shouldn't matter though
[06:20] <sgallinger> is fglrx even worth trying to install ?
[06:21] <sgallinger> or is the regular drivers ok to use ?
[06:21] <DarthFrog> Agent_bob: Cuz he wants to exec a file from Autostart without having to use sudo.
[06:21] <aleboco> DarthFrog, can i ask you a last thing? what do you reckon? if i have a list of commands to pass at startup, it is better to put all of them in a single script, or make different script for each command?
[06:21] <DarthFrog> aleboco: I can't give you a yes or no answer to that.
[06:21] <penguincentral> dthacker: tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[06:21] <aleboco> DarthFrog, i understand
[06:22] <aleboco> DarthFrog, is it a matter of taste?
[06:22] <Agent_bob> dthacker i have exported the DISPLAY= and added --display to the startkde command  it still opens in the same screen as the other running gui  :0  to be exact.
[06:22] <dthacker> Agent_bob: you ran through all *my* tricks :S
[06:22] <sgallinger> is there a channel for fglrx ?
[06:22] <Agent_bob> DarthFrog not a script is it ?
[06:23] <dthacker> penguincentral: you're killin me man....
[06:23] <DarthFrog> aleboco: Taste, certainly enters into it.  It would depend upon what the various commands are.  Probably doesn't really matter.
[06:23] <DarthFrog> Agent_bob: I didn't ask, I just gave him the info he needed to accomplish his task.
[06:23] <Agent_bob> suid scripts are ugly mean and nasty
[06:24] <DarthFrog> Agent_bob: suid anything is a security risk.
[06:24] <aleboco> DarthFrog, ok thanks a lot! i'll fidure it out now!
[06:24] <Agent_bob> but scripts are like 10x
[06:24] <dthacker> penguincentral: you need to a) be in the directory above the one you want to archive.  b) have permissions to save the archive file in the directory you are pointing it to.
[06:24] <DarthFrog> aleboco: What are you wanting to execute without sudo in Autostart?
[06:25] <Agent_bob> aleboco and why not use a warper that uses sudo and setupt sudoers to allow no password on that particular command ?
[06:25] <DarthFrog> aleboco: Agent_bob's suggestion is *much* better.
[06:25] <aleboco> DarthFrog, it is just some command i have to run according to powertop. i just want to try, if they don't work i'll put everything as before.
[06:26] <Agent_bob> but don't setup your sudoers file like mine...
[06:27] <Agent_bob> # all users may gain root privileges
[06:27] <Agent_bob> ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL
[06:27] <Agent_bob> :)))
[06:27] <DarthFrog> aleboco: Agent_bob's comment above, he meant "wrapper", not "warper". :-)
[06:27] <dthacker> Agent_bob: any way to find out if the start script that you added the --display too is the one really being executed?   (I'm just paranoid that way)
[06:27] <dthacker> buy warper sounds cooler
[06:27] <aleboco> DarthFrog, Agent_bob: ah, ok
[06:27] <DarthFrog> dthacker: Agreed. :-)  Took me a minute to figure it out, though.
[06:28] <Agent_bob> you wrap it up as you like; i'll warp it to fit the circumstance  :)
[06:28] <DarthFrog> Agent_bob: Who needs an activated root account with a sudoers lik that?  :-)
[06:28] <dthacker> hehe
[06:29] <Agent_bob> DarthFrog wouldn't matter on this system it's a "nosuid" box
[06:29] <Agent_bob> i.e. sudo only works for root anyway
[06:29] <Agent_bob> tty3 [greg@dell:~] sudo echo boo
[06:29] <Agent_bob> sudo: must be setuid root
[06:30] <DarthFrog> Agent_bob: You are seriously twisted. :-)
[06:30] <DarthFrog> I like that in a sys admin.
[06:30] <Agent_bob> dthacker as per your Q  yes it's an sysV login script that is opening the gui and calling startkde
[06:31] <Agent_bob> DarthFrog lol
[06:32] <Agent_bob> the script is fairly well protected and i "don't think" anyone can crack it to gain init access.    i haven't tested all possable hacks mind you.  but i did mall it over pretty well
[06:33] <fulat2k> hi folks, anyone knows why kaffeine suddenly tries to continuously install codecs even though it's installed?  just happened today.  was ok all the while.
[06:34] <dthacker> fulat2k: did you update kaffiene?
[06:35] <Agent_bob> so anyone sharp enough to help me get startkde to behave like gnome-session, startxfce, and blackbox do ?
[06:35] <Agent_bob> i even got fluxbox starting propperly    but not  kde.....
[06:36] <dthacker> man pages says startkde takes no command line options
[06:36] <smarty> I need help from someone good with this stuff
[06:36] <Agent_bob> you have a man page on it ?
[06:36] <dthacker> so your --display is being ignored
[06:36] <dthacker> Agent_bob: yes
[06:36] <Agent_bob> why don't i ?
[06:36] <Agent_bob> No manual entry for startkde
[06:36] <Agent_bob> See 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available.
[06:37] <smarty> I'll let you guys finish this first, then I'll ask.
[06:37] <Agent_bob> ask now.
[06:37] <smarty> Okay
[06:37] <Agent_bob> while someone is here
[06:37] <Agent_bob> :)
[06:37] <DarthFrog> smarty: It could go on all night. :-)
[06:37] <bobJR> is there anything to monitor stuff that goes through your router like instant messages and things i got kids and i just want to know whats said
[06:37] <smarty> I keep seeing that my KDE is 3.5.9 when I know for a fact that I have upgraded to 4.1
[06:37] <bobJR> there young i have to keep a eye on them
[06:37] <smarty> And its not allowing me to install themes
[06:37] <DarthFrog> smarty: Ah hah!  That's an easy one.
[06:37] <smarty> and sutff
[06:37] <dthacker> Agent_bob: not much too it. pastebinning
[06:38] <Agent_bob> smarty upgraded or added ?
[06:38] <smarty> :D
[06:38] <smarty> IDK
[06:38] <smarty> You tell me
[06:38] <smarty> How to tell you
[06:38] <Agent_bob> smarty select the kde4 session at login
[06:38] <Agent_bob> !kde4 | smarty
[06:38] <smarty> That would make sense now, wouldnt it
[06:38] <fulat2k> dthacker: not that i know of.  but i've been dist-upgrading.  i've got another machine which i've been running dist-upgrade; and that's ok
[06:38] <fauzan> heloowwall
[06:38] <penguincentral> dthacker: but they're my files
[06:38] <smarty> Let's try it, brb
[06:39] <DarthFrog> smarty: Press "CTL-Alt-Backspace" and give it a try.
[06:39] <DarthFrog> Guess he did. :-)
[06:39] <fauzan> any can't help me.. my ubuntu 7.04 can't restart
[06:39] <Agent_bob> DarthFrog  like cutting throats do ya ?
[06:39] <penguincentral> dthacker: and i'm in /home too
[06:39] <dthacker> Agent_bob: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25366/
[06:39] <Agent_bob> dthacker ty
[06:39] <DarthFrog> Agent_bob: Gets right to the job, doesn't it? :-)
[06:39] <Agent_bob> depends on the job
[06:39] <Agent_bob> :)
[06:40] <DarthFrog> Well, in this case, he gets to login again right away.
[06:41] <dthacker> fulat2k:  My suspicion is that kaffeine can't see the drivers because of perms or because they moved.  Try finding out the driver filenames and checking them on your good and "problem" system.
[06:42] <joel24721> hi
[06:42] <dthacker> penguincentral: please pwd, the type the command and pastebin the output.   Got it now :D
[06:44] <dthacker> \o/
[06:45] <smarty> One issue - the desktop effects arent working (cube, wobble, etc.)
[06:45] <DarthFrog> smarty: Good on ya.
[06:45] <Agent_bob> smarty kewl aint it
[06:45] <smarty> :D
[06:45] <smarty> thank you soooo much
[06:45] <smarty> i luv u all
[06:45] <Agent_bob> oh don't get mushy
[06:45] <DarthFrog> smarty: You need to install compiz for the effects.
[06:45] <smarty> again :(
[06:45] <smarty> okay, more practice
[06:45] <Agent_bob> or activate it
[06:46] <DarthFrog> smarty: If you've installed it, you need to configure it.
[06:46] <joel24721> hola
[06:46] <Agent_bob> what's that command   compiz --replace  ?
[06:46] <joel24721> holas
[06:46] <dthacker> !hi | joel24721
[06:46] <DarthFrog> I've never been pleased with compiz.  Just doesn't work for me.
[06:46] <joel24721> thank
[06:46] <Agent_bob> joel24721 !es  ?
[06:46] <joel24721> yess
[06:46] <Agent_bob> !es | joel24721
[06:47] <smarty> Are you guyz modz here or somethin
[06:47] <Agent_bob> modz ?
[06:47] <smarty> moderator
[06:47] <dthacker> smarty: no, I just hang out and cause trouble
[06:47] <Agent_bob> in irc thay call them OPs
[06:47] <smarty> oh wait
[06:47] <smarty> IRC nvm
[06:47] <smarty> lol
[06:47] <ybit> where are the fonts on the system located?
[06:48] <ybit> i just downloaded a bunch that i'd like to use in inkscape
[06:48] <dthacker> !fonts
[06:48] <Agent_bob> smarty there are a few ops lurking about,   but none talking in here atm
[06:48] <smarty> i c
[06:48] <Agent_bob> they are just a bot call away at any moment.
[06:49] <smarty> hahah
[06:49] <smarty> okay so how do i activate/config compiz?
[06:49] <smarty> i see that i have installed it
[06:49] <smarty> (im looking at compizconfig
[06:49] <Agent_bob> !compiz
[06:49] <Agent_bob> like dat  ^
[06:50] <DarthFrog> Methinks Agent_bob is a bot himself.:-)
[06:50] <Agent_bob> easy !
[06:50] <smarty> then it asks to unisntall KDE?
[06:50] <smarty> lol
[06:50] <smarty> haha
[06:51] <smarty> (sorry if im asking stupid questions)
[06:51] <smarty> (just started this stuff yesterday)
[06:51] <Agent_bob> but
[06:51] <Agent_bob> but
[06:51] <Agent_bob> but those are the kind i can answer
[06:51] <DarthFrog> smarty: You just started with KDE yesterday?
[06:51] <smarty> yea
[06:51] <DarthFrog> Welcome to the promised land. :-)
[06:51] <smarty> :) Thnx
[06:52] <dthacker> penguincentral: take the wild card off of that command.   from /home:  tar cvfz mattarchive.tar.gz matt/
[06:52] <Agent_bob> oh smarty let me introduce you to the first rule in kde'ism    "right click everything"
[06:52] <smarty> LOL
[06:52] <smarty> hahahah
[06:52] <Agent_bob> it's not joke
[06:52] <smarty> oh, okay
[06:52] <smarty> sry
[06:53] <dthacker> nods
[06:53] <penguincentral> dthacker: never mind, i don't need the files anymore
[06:53] <Agent_bob> before you ask questions about * right click it.
[06:53] <penguincentral> thanks for your help
[06:53] <smarty> agent: right clicking to no avail
[06:53] <dthacker> ok, sorry it took so long.
[06:54] <Agent_bob> well i didn't say that was the end of the story.  ;/
[06:54] <smarty> lol okay, continue
[06:54]  * dthacker wanders off
[06:55] <Agent_bob> don't know about kde4 but in kde3  if it needs changed you can probably do it in "kcontrol"
[06:55] <Agent_bob> or right click
[06:55] <Agent_bob> :)
[06:55] <smarty> you mean the check boxes?
[06:56] <Agent_bob> anything...   everything...    *
[06:56] <smarty> k
[06:56] <Agent_bob> err   .*   to be regex'icly correct
[06:57] <DarthFrog> smarty: Almost everything is configurable up the ying-yang in KDE.  You can be overwhelmed by choice.  But the defaults are usually good.
[06:57] <ybit> thanks dthacker :)
[06:57] <smarty> gotcha
[06:57]  * Agent_bob recites his moto "default is only the starting point on the long road to right"
[06:58] <smarty> i likey
[06:58] <Agent_bob> yeah DarthFrog is right about one thing though, you can loose a crop configuring kde
[06:59] <Agent_bob> lose
[07:00] <smarty> is there a way to open Control Center (the command) in KDE4? (i know there is :P)
[07:01] <DarthFrog> smarty: Here's one way that KDE rocks.  Put an audio CD in the drive.  Open "Konqueror File Manager" by clicking on the House Icon on the task bar.  From the sidebar, click on the Services icon (bottom one) and then click on Audio CD. Select Ogg Vorbis.  Click on Window in the Menu bar and select one of the Split Views.  Navigate in that view to your Ogg/MP3 directory.  Click in the other pane (Ogg Vorbis) and press CTL-A.  Drag 'n drop
[07:01] <DarthFrog>   Bingo, the files are ripped automagically.  This rocks my socks. :-)
[07:02] <fulat2k> dthacker: got the error msg: KXineWidget: No codecs to handle media
[07:02] <fulat2k> dthacker: no idea what that means
[07:03] <crimsun> fulat2k: what type of media?
[07:03] <Agent_bob> dthacker well you put me onto the real problem.   i edited the /usr/bin/startkde script and fixed my problem... added one line.     [ --display = "$1" -a ! -z $2 ] && export DISPLAY="$2"
[07:03] <DarthFrog> Err, drag 'n drop the files from the Ogg pane to the other pane. :-)
[07:04] <Agent_bob> why in the catnip didn't the writers do something like that and save me forty five minutes complaining time...
[07:04] <smarty> if only life was that easy
[07:06] <fulat2k> crimsun: xvid, mp3
[07:06] <crimsun> fulat2k: dpkg -l libxine1-ffmpeg|grep ^ii
[07:07] <Agent_bob> grabcd-rip DarthFrog   :)
[07:07] <DarthFrog> Agent_bob:  What's that?
[07:07] <Agent_bob> cli way to do what you did with click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click
[07:08] <Agent_bob> there are other ways too of course.
[07:08] <DarthFrog> Agent_bob: Gotcha.  CLI is usually more efficient.
[07:09] <Agent_bob> specally if you have dias what you are trying to tell it to do...
[07:09] <Agent_bob> err knowledge         ^
[07:10] <DarthFrog> The command line is normally where I do everything other than IM, email and web browsing.
[07:11] <Agent_bob> you watch movies there ?
[07:12] <el1te> ok i just installed kubuntu 804 kde remix
[07:12]  * Agent_bob watches him squirm...
[07:12] <DarthFrog> Rarely.  I run MythTV frontend, though.
[07:12] <el1te> i want to dist-upgrade to next what? is it lenny?
[07:12] <el1te> from hardy?
[07:13] <Agent_bob> DarthFrog k.    just asking.   what grapghics lib or doe you use fbcon ?
[07:13] <el1te> i changed hardy to lenny in package manger repo
[07:13] <smarty> ok, cya guys im out
[07:13] <DarthFrog> el1te: No, the next version of Ubuntu will be Intrepid.
[07:13] <Agent_bob> smarty come on back with more questions...
[07:13] <smarty> :D I will
[07:13] <el1te> right now is that testing?
[07:13] <el1te> i want to upgrade
[07:14] <Agent_bob> el1te this is not debian
[07:14] <el1te> well thats what imsaying what do i change hardy to?
[07:14] <el1te> in repo
[07:14] <DarthFrog> Agent_bob: Hmm, I ssh into the servers I administer.  No graphics library needed.
[07:15] <DarthFrog> el1te: If you have to ask that question, it's too early for you to upgrade.
[07:15] <el1te> dude because i dont know the name of testing?
[07:15] <Agent_bob> while ubuntu is "debian based" it varies enough that the repos are not at all the same structure.
[07:15] <el1te> in kubuntu?
[07:15] <Agent_bob> el1te there isn't   a  "testing"
[07:15] <el1te> well im saying what do i need to change i know its gonna besting in the end result
[07:15] <DarthFrog> el1te: the repo would be intrepid.  It's in pre-alpha.
[07:16] <fulat2k> crimsun: libxine1 <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3
[07:16] <el1te> pre=alpha?
[07:16] <el1te> is that experimental?
[07:16] <el1te> you know what i mean
[07:16] <fulat2k> crimsun: no packages found matching -ffmpeg
[07:16] <Agent_bob> yeah
[07:16] <el1te> ok i dont want that
[07:16] <el1te> :)
[07:16] <Agent_bob> !release | el1te
[07:16] <el1te> where is ati control panel for x1950 pro
[07:17] <crimsun> fulat2k: you should at least be able to play mp3
[07:17] <el1te> i rebooted and it installed driver but no control panel
[07:17] <DarthFrog> el1te: that's your choice.  It's the next version of Ubuntu, will be released in October.  Current version is Hardy, next version is Intrepid.
[07:17] <Agent_bob> then comes  something starting with a K
[07:17] <el1te> no im saying do i need to do something to get the control panel working
[07:17] <el1te> or is it non-existant
[07:18] <DarthFrog> Intrepid is only for developers right now.
[07:18] <DarthFrog> el1te: What's the matter with the control panel?
[07:18] <Agent_bob> DarthFrog he can't find one.
[07:18] <el1te> i dont have one
[07:18] <fulat2k> crimsun: haven't tried just mp3.  coz i use amarok for that.
[07:18] <Agent_bob> DarthFrog ati ctrl
[07:19] <DarthFrog> Ah.
[07:19] <Agent_bob> i have one thing with ati chips and i have hated it from day one.
[07:19] <DarthFrog> Surely that's a problem with the ATI driver suite.  Not a Linux problem.
[07:20] <DarthFrog> I bought a Radeon 9850.  Quickly regretted it.  Nvidia from now on.
[07:20]  * Agent_bob needs an sd drive
[07:20]  * Agent_bob wishes his nv card was supported
[07:20] <Agent_bob> </broken record>
[07:21] <DarthFrog> What nv card do you have?
[07:21] <el1te> shoudl install their binary driver or is that what kubuntu just did
[07:21] <Agent_bob> oh actually i do know where another ati vidio card is.... in a headless server up stairs
[07:22] <Agent_bob> DarthFrog riva128   not supported anymore
[07:22] <DarthFrog> Ah.  That's an ancient beast.
[07:22] <Agent_bob> i like it tho
[07:23] <DarthFrog> Agent_bob: I have a GeForce 5500 I could give you that I'm not using.
[07:23] <DarthFrog> Or is the Riva128 a PCI card?
[07:23] <Agent_bob> agp
[07:24] <Agent_bob> real agp not that new pci that acts like agp
[07:24] <Agent_bob> heh not new anymore either...
[07:24] <el1te> when i ctrl-alt-f1 to get out of X what is root paws their
[07:24] <el1te> pass*
[07:25] <Agent_bob> el1te nope.  wrong question
[07:25] <Agent_bob> !root | el1te
[07:25] <el1te> did you even read my question
[07:25] <Agent_bob> unless you set a root password there isn't one.
[07:25] <Agent_bob> did you read my answer ?
[07:25] <el1te> 'addpasswd' ?
[07:26] <DarthFrog> el1te: "sudo su -"  then "passwd".
[07:26] <el1te> nice thnx man
[07:26] <Agent_bob> if you want to set a root password   sudo passwd root       but read the   page please   ^
[07:26] <el1te> "sudo" or "su"?
[07:26] <el1te> thnx man
[07:27] <Agent_bob> can't use su until you set a root passwd  sooo....
[07:27] <el1te> i getcha
[07:27] <el1te> thnx
[07:27] <Agent_bob> if i had meant su i wouldn't have said sudo
[07:27] <DarthFrog> Agent_bob: "sudo su -" works.
[07:27] <el1te> alright
[07:27] <Agent_bob> DarthFrog sudo -i  does the same thing.   but what get a root shell just to set a passwd
[07:28] <DarthFrog> He wanted to be root. :-)
[07:28] <Agent_bob> then why arent we just sending him to read   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo ?
[07:28] <DarthFrog> Actually, with "sudo su -", you don't even need to set a root password.
[07:29] <Agent_bob> DarthFrog with   sudo -i      caugh*same thing*caugh   you don't either...
[07:29] <DarthFrog> I'm in a mood for answering simple questions? :-)
[07:29] <DarthFrog> OK, six of one, half-dozen of t'other.
[07:29] <Agent_bob> one less process and two less key strokes
[07:30] <DarthFrog> But a re-training of motor memory. :-)
[07:30] <Agent_bob> sudo -- su - -- sudo -i        like   cat blah | grep foo
[07:33] <Agent_bob> >>> echo "$(echo `cat /etc/passwd | grep ^root`)"  <<< is the same as >>>  grep ^root /etc/passwd  <<< in what it outputs.   not the same in overhead though.
[07:34] <DarthFrog> Umm, you might be right, but do we really care anymore how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
[07:34] <Agent_bob> DarthFrog only if we have to fiddle for them..
[07:34] <Agent_bob> :)
[07:34] <DarthFrog> :-)
[07:35] <fulat2k> crimsun: fixed.. :D  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kaffeine/+bug/210303/comments/17
[07:35] <fulat2k> not fixed, but a workaround..
[07:37] <DarthFrog> Agent_bob: Nice chatting with ya.  Catch ya on the flip side.
[07:38] <Agent_bob> i was reading a "useless use of cat" page that i was dirrected to by some "guru"   and ran across a blantant error in the writers argument on one point.   (we all make mistakes, i know.)   he said that   for i in ~/* ;do...    was the same as   for i in `ls ~/*` ;do...        but obviously he wasn't thinking about what he was saying...
[07:41] <Agent_bob> for i in `ls ~/*` ;do echo "$i" ;done > list1 ;for i in ~/* ;do echo "$i" ;done > list2 ;diff list1 list2
[07:43] <Agent_bob> they are nothing at all alike.
[07:47] <Agent_bob>  http://partmaps.org/era/unix/award.html   search for  'ls *'   :) still there and they still send people to it for instruction on how to code in #bash  :)))
[07:52] <aleboco> hi guys, it's still me and my script... how can i solve the problem of giving commands root privileges?
[07:53] <aleboco> i've read somewhere that putting the script in /etc/rc.local should do the trick, but it doesn't work
[08:04] <f3rr311> hi
[08:06] <f3rr311> can some one help me with a issues about logging out and reboot and shutdown
[08:06] <Tw|sT> hmm
[08:10] <smarty> whats the issue?
[08:12] <f3rr311> i have a black scren after i click shutdown
[08:12] <smarty> Do you see a power light?
[08:12] <f3rr311> Yes
[08:12] <smarty> (on the computer)
[08:12] <smarty> Hmm..
[08:13] <f3rr311> it is supose to do a reverse loading bar with kubunto abouve it
[08:13] <f3rr311> it stops b4 it gets there
[08:13] <f3rr311> im using hardy heron
[08:13] <smarty> Have you installed any new software?
[08:13] <f3rr311> ati prop drivers
[08:14] <smarty> It could possibly be: a) conflicting with some other program or b) lagging because some process(es) are currently running
[08:14] <f3rr311> its Xserver
[08:14] <f3rr311> form what i gather
[08:14] <smarty> What happens when you leave it alone (for like 10 mins)
[08:14] <f3rr311> i can shutdown or turn off without it loaing any changes i make
[08:14] <f3rr311> same
[08:15] <f3rr311> and if i try to restart x my mouse goes away
[08:15] <smarty> Not sure
[08:15] <smarty> you may want to come back at another time
[08:15] <smarty> when real experts are here
[08:32] <aleboco> hi everybody. i'm trying to run a series of commands at boot. some of them require to be run as root. so far the best way to do it seems to write the comands in /etc/rc.local. am i wrong?
[08:33] <Ren_> Has anyone installed Realplayer GOLD?
[08:33] <p_quarles> aleboco, yes, that's where custom startup commands go
[08:34] <aleboco> p_quarles: yes i'm wrong? or yes it's ok?
[08:35] <p_quarles> aleboco, yes, that (/etc/rc.local)'s where startup commands go
[08:35] <aleboco> p_quarles, but it's not working
[08:35] <p_quarles> what's the command?
[08:36] <aleboco> p_quarles, can i post by pastbin my rc.local?
[08:36] <p_quarles> go ahead
[08:37] <f3rr311> p_quales u know neting about a login issue
[08:37] <f3rr311> in kde
[08:37] <aleboco> p_quarles, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25384/
[08:38] <aleboco> p_quarles, it would be great if you could tell me if i do some mistake
[08:38] <p_quarles> aleboco, well, I'm not sure what those commands are supposed to do . . .
[08:39] <p_quarles> where did you get them? what are you trying to do?
[08:39] <aleboco> p_quarles, those are from powertop
[08:39] <p_quarles> ah
[08:39] <aleboco> p_quarles, i just want to try if they work or not
[08:39] <aleboco> p_quarles, but some of them work only if run by root
[08:40] <p_quarles> well, /etc/rc.local should get root privileges, so I'm just as confused as you about why this would work manually but not automatically
[08:42] <aleboco> p_quarles, mmm, do you think there is a way to verify if the comands have been run effectively?
[08:42] <p_quarles> aleboco, run powertop, and see if it offers to duplicate those efforts?
[08:42] <el11te> when i install pkg`s and they dont get updated in my kmenu
[08:43] <icqnumber> what is the official way to start compiz-fusion in kubuntu
[08:43] <icqnumber> !compiz-fusion
[08:44] <aleboco> p_quarles, it does ask me to write run the same stuff
[08:44] <Ren_> Has anyone installed Realplayer GOLD? or the helix player?
[08:44] <p_quarles> aleboco, have you run those commands manually? (with sudo, of course) Do you get errors or any other useful info?
[08:45] <el11te> !compiz-fusion
[08:45] <MATRUX> hi
[08:45] <MATRUX> does any one know how to do that eyecandy in compize fusion
[08:45] <aleboco> p_quarles, yes, i made a script, and when i run it with sudo all works fine
[08:46] <MATRUX> hello
[08:46] <p_quarles> aleboco, what about running sudo /etc/rc.local ?
[08:46] <MATRUX> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[08:47] <MATRUX> does any one have dslinux
[08:47] <chacha> ya'll bored? try calling 1-800-2CHACHA and ask ANY QUESTION you want.   I asked them where pee came from.
[08:47] <MATRUX> or dsos or geos
[08:47] <aleboco> p_quarles, is there any way to run it verbose?
[08:47] <MATRUX> does anyone know about windds
[08:48] <MATRUX> winds i ment
[08:48] <MATRUX> its a clone of the windows os for the nds
[08:48] <p_quarles> aleboco, not that I know of -- you could add verbosity to the individual commands within the script
[08:48] <p_quarles> MATRUX, that's off-topic in this channel
[08:48] <MATRUX> fine but i do need help around here
[08:49] <MATRUX> how do u configure compiz proply
[08:50] <aleboco> p_quarles, ok, thanks a lot
[08:54] <aleboco> p_quarles, i figured it out! but it's a little bit weird
[08:54] <p_quarles> aleboco, what was the trick?
[08:54] <f3rr311> p_quales u know ne thing about a login issue
[08:54] <greenfishx3> anyone know a good tutorial to customize your panel?
[08:55] <aleboco> p_quarles, if you have a look at the pastebin, everything stopped after the hal command
[08:55] <aleboco> p_quarles, i just have to put hal a the last command before exit
[08:55] <aleboco> p_quarles, no idea why, but it does work!
[08:55] <p_quarles> aha -- that is strange
[08:56] <p_quarles> I'm sure there's an interesting reason why that's so, though
[08:56] <aleboco> p_quarles, it is strange, but now it works! thanks a lot for making me try!
[08:57] <jussi01> does anyone know where firefox caches stuff?
[08:57] <p_quarles> jussi01, in ~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxx.default/Cache?
[09:00] <f3rr311> And gurus on lol
[09:00] <f3rr311> any*
[09:03] <romunov_> how can i convince firefox to open pdfs from location?
[09:03] <romunov_> when i click "open with" i can't find firefox executable
[09:03] <f3rr311> rom there is a plugin in mozzila plugin data base
[09:03] <f3rr311> i think
[09:13] <f3rr311> So can ne one help
[09:31] <ctx144k_> hello all
[09:32] <ctx144k_> hello all. is there a way to get ubuntu-server 8.04 cd-image (not version 8.04.1)?
[09:32] <ctx144k_> on releases.ubuntu.com i see only 8.04.1 images
[09:36] <bazhang> ctx144k_, the one with the ssl security flaw?
[09:37] <ctx144k_> how so u mean?
[09:37] <ctx144k_> yes, i think so
[09:38] <bazhang> ctx144k_, there was a problem with the keys being generated in a non-random fashion
[09:38] <ctx144k_> yes...  but i need that one !
[09:38] <bazhang> the new image fixes that
[09:38] <ctx144k_> okay... - but its not booting on my pc
[09:38] <bazhang> ctx144k_, why?
[09:38] <ctx144k_> while cd-rom initialisaion of my kernel i get the fopllow messages
[09:39] <bazhang> ctx144k_, pastebin the error message at paste.ubuntu.com
[09:39] <ctx144k_> http://rafb.net/p/Gsj47698.html
[09:40] <ctx144k_> it seams to be errors on my other ata-disk too...
[09:41] <ctx144k_> with 8.04 i hadnt any problems, but i have no image here
[09:41] <bazhang> that is a pretty slim error page :)
[09:42] <f3rr311> bazhang https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/212434
[09:57] <Lars> hi
[09:57] <Lars> i have a bit of a problem
[09:58] <Lars> anyone available to help? it's regarding the installation
[09:58] <f3rr311> might want to goto #ubuntu
[09:58] <llutz> Moin
[09:59] <Lars> ok, thanks
[09:59] <Ren_> Lars: installation of?
[09:59] <Lars> kubutu 8.04
[09:59] <Ren_> k shoot
[10:00] <Lars> i'm running on a laptop. my internal cd-rom drive is broken, so i'm installing from an external cd-rom drive
[10:00] <Ren_> k
[10:01] <Ren_> and?
[10:01] <Lars> when i try to run the live cd, or install, i eventually get the error message that "ready check for cd-rom failed"
[10:01] <Lars> and the system won't boot
[10:01] <Ren_> in your bios are you set up to boot from there?
[10:01] <Lars> it's the internal one it's checking for ready, and that one's broken.
[10:01] <Lars> i'm set up to boot from usb
[10:02] <Ren_> strange
[10:02] <Ren_> you should be able to go right in and install
[10:02] <Lars> is there any way to disable my internal cd-rom drive, or do i have to physically remove my internal cd-rom from the system?
[10:02] <Lars> yeah, i know, but it won't let me
[10:02] <Lars> i don't even get a shell
[10:02] <Ren_> check in bios to disable
[10:03] <Lars> it justs halts when running one of the boot scripts in /etc/something.local
[10:03] <Githzerai>  <Lars> you need Ubuntu flash disk, as regular CD is not set to install over USB. ;)
[10:03] <Ren_> see there ya go lol
[10:03] <Lars> ok, where do i find that version?
[10:04] <Lars> only see cd/dvd releases on the download page
[10:04] <Ren_> google it
[10:04] <Lars> oh, and i tried installing with wubi, but i got the same message
 Not a version, but ordinary USB flesh disk set up for boot. google it for details on how to make one ;)
[10:04] <Ren_> night ppl
[10:05] <Lars> yeah i have several flash disks which i've booted from before. so, do i just shove the iso contents onto the usb disk?
 No , you need also to make it bootable ;0
[10:05] <Githzerai> ;)
[10:06] <Lars> yeah, i figured. but when i tried installing other systems from a usb stick, it couldn't find my hard disk
[10:07] <Lars> it regarded the usb stick as the hard disk, and tried installing onto that
[10:07] <Lars> but, it can't be that it's not made to run from ext cd-rom, when i get the same problem installing with wubi?
Well, in partitioner you probably didn't check hard drive instead of usb one.... usual mistake ;)
[10:09] <Lars> but, it can't be that it's not made to run from ext cd-rom, when i get the same problem installing with wubi?
[10:10] <simi> hi, i have a .avi file that when i play it in kubuntu it has sound but a blue background(i tried vlc, mplayer kmlayer) but in indows xp it works fine(with vlc and windows media player) what can i do to make it work in linux?
[10:11] <Lars> does it apply to only that avi file?
[10:11] <Lars> or are others that way too?
[10:13] <Lars> either way, i think you need the proper codecs. maybe a divx codec
[10:13] <Lars> check out this how-to: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-play-divx-mpeg4-video-stream-files.html
[10:14] <Assurbanipal> hey guys, can somone help me install my modem? kubuntu doesnt seem to recognize it
[10:19] <cyberponix> tar xfz madwifi-nr-r3366+ar5007.tar.gz does any one know why this does not work in Konsole?
[10:21] <SSJ_GZ> cyberponix: What errors do you get?
[10:23] <cyberponix> gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file   /   tar: Unexpected EOF in archive   /   tar: Unexpected EOF in archive   /  tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[10:26] <bazhang> corrupt file?
[10:27] <cyberponix> so redownload?
[10:31] <werner_> guten morgen
[10:43] <snake73> hallo
[10:46] <snake73> könnte mir jemand beim installieren von java 6 helfen?
[10:46] <snake73> ich komme da an einem punkt nicht weiter
[10:47] <Schorfi> und zwar?
[10:47] <bazhang> !de
[10:47] <Schorfi> apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[10:47] <snake73> ich soll ganz zum schluss eine datei entzippen
[10:48] <snake73> und zwar in das extensions verzeichnis
[10:48] <Schorfi> snake73: bitte in #kubuntu-de
[10:48] <snake73> okay
[11:01] <jonnyx_> hey ppl please help meeee.....
[11:01] <ipezzei> jonnyx_: what's happening?
[11:02] <jonnyx_> ipezzei: i have linux kubuntu and i can't use sudo apt-get install
[11:02] <jonnyx_> if i want to sudo apt-get install irssi
[11:03] <ipezzei> jonnyx_: try ALT+F2 then kdesu thecommandyouwant
[11:03] <ipezzei> jonnyx_: ah excuse me... I'll give a closer look
[11:04] <jonnyx_> ???
[11:04] <ipezzei> jonnyx_: are you in konsole?
[11:04] <PhilRod> jonnyx_: so, what happens when you run that command?
[11:05] <jonnyx_> couldn't find packages....
[11:05] <jonnyx_> but its writing for all command
[11:05] <jonnyx_> s
[11:05] <ipezzei> ah! so sudo works
[11:06] <ipezzei> jonnyx_: did you configure the repos in adept well?
[11:06] <jonnyx_> what ?
[11:07] <ipezzei> K menu --> System --> Adept (package manager)
[11:07] <jonnyx_> sorry but im not perfect in english :)
[11:07] <ipezzei> jonnyx_: I'm italian so... welcome! LOL
[11:07] <FoxIII> jonnyx_,  What does konsole display after you type: sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:07] <potkettle> hello
[11:07] <potkettle> can anyone reccomend a version of kubutnu to use as a remote server to use svn on
[11:07] <potkettle> and do some python / mono on
[11:09] <jonnyx_> Foxlll: couldn't get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock ...................
[11:10] <FoxIII> potkettle,  If you only want it as a server, then you can use Hardy Heron 8.04.1 Alternate install cd
[11:10] <jonnyx_> FoxIII: : Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:10] <FoxIII> Do you have adept open?
[11:10] <jonnyx_> ipezzei: looll....
[11:10] <jonnyx_> FoxIII: lol yea
[11:11] <FoxIII> potkettle,  You can download it here: http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases/kubuntu/hardy/
[11:11] <jonnyx_> :D again ... take me minute
[11:11] <FoxIII> jonnyx_,  You will need to close that. Take your time :)
[11:11] <potkettle> oh yeah i forgot installing linux ahead of windows can cause problems
[11:11] <jonnyx_> Reading package lists... Done
[11:11] <jonnyx_> Building dependency tree
[11:11] <jonnyx_> Reading state information... Done
[11:11] <jonnyx_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:11] <jonnyx_> this
[11:11] <potkettle> what sort of problme ? i  wont be sticking windows on it now but that may change
[11:11] <potkettle> it just screws up the install right ?
[11:12] <ipezzei> jonnyx_: what about the package name? Try to find it
[11:12] <jonnyx_> i'm new on linux ... them i need much to learn
[11:12] <FoxIII> potkettle,  There isn't really a problem. It just means a little more work if you want to install windows later.
[11:12] <jonnyx_> ipezzei: but i can't install anythink
[11:12] <jonnyx_> :(
[11:12] <potkettle> ah ok thats fine thanks :) i remember our OS teacher mentioning something about explosions and what not
[11:12] <Githzerai> jonnyx_: Have u run sudo apt-get update before installing anything ?
[11:13] <ipezzei> jonnyx_: in Adept --> Adept --> Repositories what does Adept tell you?
[11:13] <jonnyx_> Githzerai: but if i do update them... E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
 You have configured and working internet ?
[11:14] <FoxIII> Could you paste the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list at http://paste.ubuntu.com and post the link here?
[11:15] <ipezzei> right FoxIII
[11:15] <jonnyx_> im on linux kubuntu now them i have .... Githzerai
[11:15] <FoxIII> jonnyx_,  see my last comment.
[11:16] <ipezzei> jonnyx_: in Adept, under Adept menu --> Repos manger --> Reset button. Try it then reload
[11:16] <jonnyx_> i dont understand :X
[11:16] <jonnyx_> trying
[11:16] <Githzerai> jonnyx_: Try changing updates server, can help. ;)
[11:17] <jonnyx_> changing updates server ?
[11:17] <FoxIII> jonnyx_,  Using the file browser, go to the root (where all kubuntu files are) and go to /etc/apt where you will find a file called sources.list. You can open this by clicking on it and then paste the contents to the ubuntu pastebin.
[11:19] <jonnyx_> FoxIII: i dont know how to go to root :X
[11:20] <FoxIII> jonnyx_,  when you open your browser (called dolphin) you will see you are in the Home folder. Click on Root (on the left)
[11:21] <toshatosha> русский дай
[11:22] <FoxIII> ubottu !russia
[11:23] <jonnyx_> Foxlll: i can go there by mightnight commander ????
[11:23] <FoxIII> jonnyx_,  You can get there using any file manager.
[11:24] <jonnyx_> Foxlll will you be here in moment ... i want to go for smoke break ... and take some shit's in da WC :D
[11:24] <jonnyx_> sry
[11:24] <jonnyx_> :X
[11:24] <jonnyx_> brb
[11:25] <FoxIII> jonnyx_,  a bit more information than was required, but yeah, I'll be here
[11:29] <ubuntu__> hi
[11:34] <f3rr311> sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M i have to run this to make the card achive 54 mbps
[11:47] <millun> hi, i am having big troubles with kubuntu. 8.04 freezes for a few minutes every ... few minutes :)
[11:49] <FoxIII> millun,  What version of KDE are you using?
[11:49] <PhilRod> millun: I'd suggest running "top" in a konsole, and watching it until the freeze occurs - see what process might be doing the hanging
[11:56] <greenfishx3>  i renamed 3-4 terminal sessions on yakuake - "save as default", then i saved the session in kubuntu but after a reboot theres only 1 terminal session in yakuake called shell, all my terminals are missing
[11:56] <greenfishx3> anyone know a good tutorial to customize your panel?
[11:57] <millun> PhilRod: it tells me i got 7MB rams free, java (azureus), firefox consumes the most
[11:57] <millun> but even when i got nothing running it occurs
[11:58] <Jucato> greenfishx3: "Save as default" is for the terminal profile (schema) only. Yakuake doesn't save opened tabs (yet...)
[11:58] <greenfishx3> Jucato: is there something I  can do to fix that?
[11:59] <Jucato> greenfishx3: you can use a script that runs at startup that will use dcop (or dbus) to open new tabs in yakuake
[11:59] <PhilRod> millun: exactly what happens when it freezes? can you do *anything*? does the mouse move? etc etc
[11:59] <greenfishx3> Jucato hmm I see, but I dont want new tabs, just the 4 i use right now, renamed to suit my needs
[12:00] <greenfishx3> Jucato:  like bash, directory etc ive renamed them for a purpose :)
[12:00] <millun> PhilRod: nope, only after the freeze the clock moves 2 minutes forth
[12:00] <adminpower> Hi everyone\
[12:00] <greenfishx3> Jucato: thanks for the answer though
[12:00] <Jucato> greenfishx3: you can rename those tabs too using that script.
[12:00] <millun> i mean say it was 10:30, the lock got off 5 minutes later, i get 10:32
[12:00] <greenfishx3> ah splendid, do you have a link I can follow to that script?
[12:01] <richard> hi everybody
[12:01] <Jucato> greenfishx3: unfortunately.. I lost mine... what version of Yakuake btw?
[12:01] <richard> i have a quick question about file sharing from a windows xp computer to kubuntu if anyone knows about that?
[12:03] <Githzerai> richard: use samba
[12:04] <greenfishx3> Jucato:  2.8.1
[12:04] <richard> Githzerai: ive edited the /etc/fstab file to connect the drive when the computer loads, which seems to work fine
[12:04] <richard> but -only- if the windows computer is switched on first
[12:05] <richard> is there any way to make it connect like that when the share becomes available?
[12:07] <greenfishx3> Jucato: like this one maybe? https://dev.sitea.cc/Pub/scripts/tab
[12:09] <liquid> Has anybody been able to play FLYFF with Wine?
[12:09] <adminpower> HI
[12:09] <liquid> Hi
[12:10] <adminpower> Hey can anybody help me with kmail settings
[12:10] <adminpower> ???
[12:10] <liquid> Sorry I'm a noob with kubuntu and with linux in general
[12:10] <adminpower> so
[12:10] <adminpower> liquid where are you chatting from?
[12:11] <liquid> Vegas
[12:11] <adminpower> which OS are you using?
[12:11] <liquid> Kubuntu
[12:11] <adminpower> That's cool
[12:11] <adminpower> i am also using it
[12:11] <liquid> Have you been able to install any custom themes?
[12:11] <adminpower> at firs I really had problems with connecting to workgroup and internet
[12:11] <adminpower> but now.. I have done it
[12:12] <adminpower> Can u plz help me with installing FIREFOX??
[12:12] <bazhang> what version of kubuntu
[12:12] <liquid> sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:12] <liquid> type that in the konsole
[12:12] <liquid> oh wow I think I might get flyff to work with wine!
[12:13] <liquid> ^.^
[12:13] <adminpower> hahaha
[12:17] <richard> !rpm
[12:17] <richard> !apt
[12:18] <richard> !yum
[12:22] <senorpedro> hi folks
[12:22] <slashammett> Boujour, j'ai un petit probléme ac kubuntu, il freeze constament, pouriez vous me donner quelque piste pour résoudre se probléme
[12:23] <senorpedro> i want to try out the programm rosegarden, but everytime i start it i get the error message "Failed to connect to JACK audio server." because jackd is not running. how can i start jackd manually?
[12:23] <senorpedro> i tried jackd but then i get only a list with lots of parameters
[12:31] <biggz> lol
[12:31] <biggz> hi
[12:32] <biggz> hello?
[12:32] <biggz> what`s the kde4 networkmanager?
[12:33] <roo82> kde-network-manager
[12:33] <roo82> ;)
[12:33] <roo82> Might be KNetworkManager
[12:33] <biggz> it is not
[12:33] <roo82> hmm
[12:34] <adminpower> hi
[12:34] <adminpower> hey can anybody help me with firefox installation?
[12:34] <biggz> how do I know is for kde4?
[12:34] <pag> adminpower, care to be more specific? :-)
[12:35] <adminpower> what??
[12:36] <biggz> so no one knows?
[12:36] <pag> adminpower, basically the installation goes the following way: open konsole and type " sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0 "
[12:36] <pag> biggz, are you sure there is one?
[12:37] <biggz> there was one in kde3
[12:37] <biggz> I had to do it through console
[12:38] <pag> biggz, erm.. and? lots of things that exist in kde 3 do not yet exist in kde 4
[12:38] <biggz> oh
[12:38] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. is the package name firefox-3.0 ?
[12:38] <adminpower> hey
[12:39] <adminpower> I am new to kubunutu
[12:39] <pag> biggz, try asking in #kubuntu-kde4  they'll probably know better
[12:39] <adminpower> I don't know where to start the installation
[12:39] <pag> Dr_willis, packages.ubuntu.com said it is - can't be sure though
[12:39] <engineer> adminpower open command line; sudo aptitude install synaptic; synaptic
[12:40] <adminpower> ok wait..
[12:40] <pag> engineer, why bother installing synaptic, when there's Adept and apt?
[12:40] <engineer> adept sucks and is buggy
[12:40] <adminpower> nothing happend
[12:40] <engineer> adminpower not all command at the same time
[12:40] <biggz> adminpower:  u don't know how to install ff with that nick???!!
[12:41] <biggz> o_O
[12:41] <adminpower> no
[12:41] <engineer> adminpower open konsole
[12:41] <adminpower> ok
[12:41] <adminpower> wait..
[12:41] <Dr_willis> !info firefox
[12:41] <teo_> ciao
[12:41] <adminpower> I opened now
[12:41] <apparle> When I install packages where are they staored
[12:41] <teo_> Nessuno italiano ?
[12:41] <Dr_willis> I though 'firefox' was the package name for ff3
[12:41] <engineer> adminpower sudo aptitude install synaptic
[12:41] <Dr_willis> !info firefox-3
[12:41] <engineer> |it | Teashcy
[12:41] <adminpower> in the desktop
[12:41] <apparle> I mean the .deb files
[12:41] <engineer> |it | teo_
[12:41] <adminpower> in the desktop
[12:41] <engineer> !it | teo_
[12:41] <PhilRod> !it | teo_
[12:41] <teo_> ok
[12:41] <engineer> adminpower in konsole
[12:42] <engineer> type that in konsole
[12:42] <biggz> how to have the 3D square??
[12:42] <pag> apparle,  /var/catche/apt  or something like that
[12:42] <biggz> I wanna rotate my desktop
[12:42] <engineer> !compiz | biggz
[12:42] <adminpower> i installed it now?
[12:42] <adminpower> what should i do now????????????????????????????
[12:42] <engineer> adminpower did you run the command?
[12:42] <adminpower> yes
[12:42] <engineer> what did it say
[12:42] <snake73> cu
[12:42] <biggz> but how to move it
[12:43] <adminpower> it said ... Done
[12:43] <engineer> biggz ctrl+shift+arrows
[12:43] <engineer> adminpower sudo aptitude install firefox-3.0
[12:43] <adminpower> ok
[12:43] <adminpower> wait.. Mr. engineer
[12:43] <Dr_willis> !info firefox-3.0
[12:44] <biggz> engineer: which box did u check in desktop effects?
[12:44] <apparle> I wanna know how exactly apt works
[12:44] <adminpower> it says "no candidate version found for firefox"??
[12:44] <engineer> adminpower sudo aptitude install firefox
[12:44] <engineer> biggz i can't remember
[12:45] <engineer> cube maybe
[12:45] <engineer> omg
[12:45] <adminpower> eading package lists... Done
[12:45] <adminpower> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:45] <adminpower> Reading extended state information
[12:45] <adminpower> Initializing package states... Done
[12:46] <adminpower> Building tag database... Done
[12:46] <engineer> !pastebin | adminpower
[12:46] <adminpower> No candidate version found for firefox
[12:46] <adminpower> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[12:46] <adminpower> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:46] <adminpower> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[12:46] <adminpower> Writing extended state information... Done
[12:46] <adminpower> what does it say??
[12:46] <engineer> your apt sources are messed up
[12:46] <adminpower> what should I do with it?
[12:46] <Dr_willis> really goofy.
[12:47] <pag> adminpower, sudo apt-get update  might help..
[12:47] <biggz> lalalalawl
[12:48] <adminpower> no it didn't work\
[12:48] <adminpower> I have extracted the firefox compressed file in the desktop folder
[12:49] <adminpower> pasebin
[12:49] <adminpower> eading package lists... Done
[12:49] <adminpower> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:49] <adminpower> Reading extended state information
[12:49] <FoxIII> I think it would be wise to have a look at your sources.list file adminpower. Can you use pastebin so we can see?
[12:49] <Dr_willis> err.. one normally does not download/extract  to install packages on yubuntu.
[12:49] <adminpower> Initializing package states... Done
[12:49] <adminpower> Building tag database... Done
[12:49] <adminpower> No candidate version found for firefox
[12:49] <adminpower> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[12:49] <adminpower> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:49] <adminpower> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[12:49] <adminpower> Writing extended state information... Done
[12:49] <Dr_willis> and theres no need to paste those 'generic' error messages.
[12:49] <adminpower> then??
[12:49] <adminpower> ok tell me from the start where should I put the compressed file
[12:50] <Dr_willis> Simple.. you DONT normally use them at all.
[12:50] <Dr_willis> The whole point of the 'package manager' system is to handle all this for you.
[12:50] <Dr_willis> but some how your package manager seems messed up.. or we totally missed somthing here.
[12:51] <Dr_willis> #1 - what version of kubntu are you using.
[12:51] <adminpower> 6.06
[12:51] <Dr_willis> Thats the problem then.
[12:52] <Dr_willis> firefox3 i imagine is not in the repositories for 6.06
[12:52] <Dr_willis> You may want to update to the latest release of kubuntu.
[12:52] <engineer> exactly
[12:52] <pag> !info mozilla-firefox dapper
[12:53] <pag> hmm.. 'firefox' should still have an installation candidate.. I think there's something wrong with the repos :\
[12:53] <Dr_willis> pag,  perhaps.  I havent messed with dapper in ages
[12:54] <Dr_willis> its called mozilla-firefox perhaps?
[12:55] <pag> Dr_willis, if i understood ubottu correctly, then both mozilla-firefox and firefox should be installable
[12:57] <Dr_willis> been so long ago. i dont rember. :) and i aint going back
[13:00] <gnomefreak> pag: mozilla-firefox is a transitional package it brings in firefox
[13:00] <gnomefreak> unless you are on edgy or below
[13:00] <gnomefreak> than its the other way around
[13:01] <gnomefreak> pag: install either you will get firefox
[13:01] <pag> gnomefreak, ok. :-)
[13:02]  * Dr_willis is so confused.....
[13:02] <Dr_willis> but it dosent matter much any more. :)
[13:03] <gnomefreak> pag: apt-cache show packagename will tell you if it is transitional or not
[13:03] <FoxIII> firefox is definitely in dapper repo's -> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=firefox&searchon=names&suite=dapper&section=all
[13:04] <gnomefreak> FoxIII: its always been in Ubuntu repos including warty
[13:04] <pag> gnomefreak, I'm not running ubuntu, that's why I had to rely on info of packages.ubuntu.com and ubottu ;)
[13:04] <gnomefreak> pag: ah either will work
[13:09] <david__> hi there. has anyone had any luck with apache proxypass and (tight)vnc
[13:09] <david__> ?
[13:13] <engineer> i installed the XP, and the first thing it said is that my computer might be at risk, so true
[13:27] <cyberponix> anyone know anything about getting an atheros wifi card working?
[13:27] <cyberponix> yes I researched it however I am having issues
[13:27] <amelie> hi everyone
[13:27] <cyberponix> hello
[13:28] <amelie> i have problems with kubuntu desktops
[13:28] <amelie> can anyone help?
[13:28] <cyberponix> depends on the prob
[13:28] <geek> amelie: could you be a little more specific please?
[13:28] <amelie> sure
[13:28] <cyberponix> 7.10 or 8.04
[13:28] <FoxIII> cyberponix,  What problems are you having?
[13:29] <amelie> can't enable compiz, can't increase the number of desktops
[13:29] <amelie> i have an nvidia video
[13:29] <amelie> i used the restricted drivers application
[13:29] <cyberponix> FoxIII: I bought a new lappy and can not get my wifi working
[13:29] <FoxIII> amelie,  do you have a Desktop Effects option in system?
[13:29] <amelie> yess
[13:30] <amelie> i tried increasin the horizontall and vertical size
[13:30] <cyberponix> I have been attempting to use madwifi and the atheros patch but failing
[13:30] <amelie> but, the number of desktops is disabled
[13:30] <FoxIII> amelie,  open that and you should have an option to install the desktop effects.
[13:30] <FoxIII> amelie,  ah, do you have the compiz settings manager installed?
[13:31] <FoxIII> cyberponix,  Where do you get to? Does linux recognise it?
[13:31] <amelie> yes
[13:31] <FoxIII> And you have been in the General settings? This is where you set the number of desktops
[13:31] <amelie> and the compiz configuration settings manager have something odd
[13:32] <amelie> sure
[13:32] <amelie> in the general settings i've already tried
[13:32] <cyberponix> I can not even get the madwifi stuff working enough to work with... I had it all yesterday, however I decided to kill windows completely and repartted my drive thus new install
[13:32] <amelie> and it doesn't allow me to increase the desktops
[13:32] <amelie> i select four, hit apply
[13:32] <amelie> and NOTHING HAPPENS
[13:33] <amelie> the odd thing about the CCSM, is the icons that represent the effects, are disabled too
[13:33] <FoxIII> amelie,  Try re-installing the compiz packages that you have installed on your machine again. This may help. Also, log out and back in again may help (ctrl+alt+backspace)
[13:33] <amelie> well, not disabled, I mean, it only appears like a "document" icon
[13:33] <ChiLLmaN> hello! i'm a german user, i have installed the lasted ubuntu hardy, and have installed a ubuntu-programm to gain access to my windows-drive where all my music is stored... but now i want to access /media/windows and it doesn't work... whats the problem?
[13:34] <amelie> ok
[13:34] <FoxIII> cyberponix,  Type: lspci in CLI. do you see the network card?
[13:34] <amelie> i'll try
[13:34] <amelie> thanks
[13:34] <FoxIII> ChiLLmaN,  can you access it using dolphin?
[13:35] <ChiLLmaN> Foxlll: no, it doesn't work..., i have no idea what is now stopping me from accessing the windows drive...i didn't change anything
[13:35] <cyberponix> FoxIII: no it is not there
[13:36] <FoxIII> hmm. It's not in /media ?
[13:36] <ChiLLmaN> i open the ntfs-configuration tool (you know?) and click "ok" ... but it has no effect... it doesn't work...
[13:36] <ChiLLmaN> it is shown in /media ... but when i click on the drive shown, access is denied
[13:37] <cyberponix> ChiLLmaN: go through your term and sudo mount the drive
[13:37] <FoxIII> hmm. okay, it sounds like you will need root privilges to access it. Type: gksudo dolphin in CLI, enter your password and then you should have access
[13:37] <ChiLLmaN> k
[13:39] <ChiLLmaN> gksudo dolphin doesn't work either, i'll try the sudo mount thing through term
[13:40] <cyberponix> ChiLLmaN: do you have Konqurer?
[13:40] <ChiLLmaN> cyberponix: yes
[13:40] <cyberponix> have you tryed to use that and go into your sys that way?
[13:41] <cyberponix> FoxIII: you still around?
[13:41] <FoxIII> yes. sorry.
[13:41] <cyberponix> k hold on a sec
[13:42] <ChiLLmaN> cyberponix: access denied... konquerer is not the solution..
[13:43] <cyberponix> are you able to look at the files at all?
[13:43] <amelie> hi again
[13:43] <FoxIII> wb amelie. Any luck?
[13:43] <amelie> i removed compiz completly
[13:43] <cyberponix> or just denied as soon as you attempt to look outside of linux?
[13:43] <amelie> still can't increase the desktop number
[13:44] <amelie> and now, the applications title bar is missing
[13:44] <amelie> for all the applications
[13:44] <FoxIII> amelie,  you have completely removed compiz? Did you have emerald installed?
[13:44] <ChiLLmaN> cyberponix: no the files are not shown at all,... i now tried to mount it the manual way... and it says : "Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use."
[13:44] <amelie> no
[13:44] <ChiLLmaN> how can it be in use when i am using ubuntu?
[13:44] <amelie> don't have emerald
[13:45] <cyberponix> it should not be in use
[13:45] <aude> hey
[13:45] <cyberponix> strange...
[13:45] <amelie> how do i recover the applications title bar
[13:45] <FoxIII> amelie,  type: sudo apt-get install compiz-kde in CLI
[13:45] <aude> i search the french irc please
[13:45] <ChiLLmaN> cyberponix: do i have to umount it before i shut down windows?? thats strange :)
[13:45] <FoxIII> amelie,  then you can alt+f2 and type: compiz --replace
[13:45] <engineer> amelie kwin &
[13:46] <FoxIII> amelie,  That will get your titlebars back
[13:46] <cyberponix> ChiLLmaN: I never did
[13:46] <cyberponix> ChiLLmaN: XP or Vista
[13:46] <ChiLLmaN> cyberponix: maybe the last windows shutdown was unclean... that might be a possible solution.. ok i'll just log on in windows and shut it down cleanly and maybe it works afterwards... i have XP
[13:48] <fildo> hey whats a good irc deamon to use?
[13:48] <cyberponix> ChiLLmaN: there should be no issues then... maybe a restart would do the windows some good... if all else fails you could always use a thumb drive a pain I know, but sometimes it is the onlhy left
[13:48] <fildo> to setup an irc server?
[13:48] <fildo> ircd ?
[13:49] <amelie> E: Couldn't find package in
[13:49] <Dr_willis_> !irc
[13:49] <amelie> that was the result from the sudo command
[13:49] <Dr_willis_> Theres dozens of irc servers out there.   Check the package manager.
[13:49] <Dr_willis_> !find ircd
[13:52] <aude> Soy francés y quiero aprender español
[13:52] <aude> alguien me puede ayudar?
[13:52] <tilman_> cyberponix: it works! it was just an unclean windows shutdown...
[13:52] <tilman_> sorry.. :)
[13:52] <FoxIII> sorry cyberponix. Gotta go out. check http://www.thumoo.com/index.php?title=Wireless. Might help. Some links there too.
[13:53] <engineer> !es | aude
[13:53] <aude> gracias
[13:54] <cyberponix> tilman_: u chill?
[13:55] <amelie> i recovered my title bars
[13:55] <amelie> thanks
[13:55] <ChiLLmaN> cyperponix: sorry... yes i'm chillman
[13:55] <amelie> but still can't configure the desktops
[13:55] <cyberponix> lol k
[13:56] <ChiLLmaN>  (:
[13:56] <cyberponix> i am glad that worked
[13:58] <cyberponix> Dr_willis: do u know anything about atheros wifi set up?
[13:58] <ChiLLmaN> cyberponix: yeah... thank you for your help
[13:58] <cyberponix> you figured it out man
[13:59] <ChiLLmaN> cyberponix: ... we figured it out together :) so.. i have to go, bye bye!
[14:00] <isis> When I have the cursor over the edge of a window and scroll the mouse wheel it switches focus to other windows in a "rotating" pattern
[14:00] <isis> how do I turn that "feature" off?
[14:00] <isis> it drives me crazy, I move the mouse cursor to the right scroll bar to use the wheel to scroll down a page and it switches the window....
[14:02] <Dr_willis_> ive never noticed it doing that.
[14:03] <cyberponix> does anyone know anything about atheros wifi set up in 8.04
[14:03] <isis> Dr, me either with every earlier version of KDE yet in this one (3.5.9 on 8.04) it does
[14:04] <isis> been using KDE for years and can I hell find the option to turn it off...its becoming very irritating
[14:04] <amelie> can anyone try with a different suggestion about how i increase the number of desktops? neither the system settings or the desktop panel shorcut help
[14:05] <SSJ_GZ> isis: Desktop -> Multiple Desktops -> Mouse wheel over desktop etc ... ?
[14:07] <isis> SSJ, thanks for the help but its not that
[14:07] <isis> thats switched off, its not a desktop artifact, its somethign to do with the window settings..
[14:08] <TheKiNG|Linux> Hello, before I updated my Kubuntu system, my resolutions were able to go up to 1020x768. Now I'm limited to 800x600. Can anyone help me?
[14:09] <SSJ_GZ> isis: Hmmm ... Configure Window Behaviour -> Actions -> Titlebar wheel event ... ?
[14:09] <SSJ_GZ> isis: (the border receives the same events as the titlebar, IIRC)
[14:09] <isis> its not the titlebar, its when the cursor switches to the resize icon on any window edge (left, right and bottom)
[14:09] <isis> SSJ, ah, then that might work
[14:09] <isis> but no, Wheel Event is set to nothing in Titleabr
[14:10] <isis> Titlebar*
[14:10] <SSJ_GZ> isis: I'm at a loss, then :/
[14:20] <antonio_> olá
[14:23] <andries> hello
[14:23] <andries> i've got a question...
[14:24] <andries> my touchpad on the laptop hasn't got scrolling enabled
[14:24] <andries> how do i do it
[14:24] <andries> (kde4 doesn't seem to have an ui for that yet)
[14:28] <andries> ?
[14:33] <andries> anyone alive here ^^?
[14:45] <romunov> where does wget store files?
[14:53] <aleboco> hi guys. i'd need an help with .kde/Autostart
[14:53] <aleboco> i need  to run some command as root
[14:54] <aleboco> i tried with /etc/rc.local
[14:54] <aleboco> but some of them need to be run after login
[14:54] <aleboco> is there a solution?
[14:58] <cyberponix> does anyone know anything about atheros wifi set up in 8.04
[14:59] <Dr_willis_> I know thers a !wireless factoid. :)
[14:59] <Dr_willis_> !wireless
[14:59] <Dr_willis_> !atheros
[15:00] <candive> Hi, I chose autoplay for "Amarok" how do I reset the default, Please
[15:00] <Dr_willis_> You mean the cd/dvd auto play when inserted?
[15:01] <candive> Dr willis, yes
[15:01] <Dr_willis_> !tab
[15:01] <Dr_willis_> Not sure where that would be at.  I always disable any auto-play stuff.
[15:02] <Dr_willis_> Now go to Control Center, Periphals, Storage Media
[15:02] <Dr_willis_> perhaps.. according to thios guide i just googled.
[15:02] <candive> Dr_willis, Thank you
[15:03] <aleboco> does anybody know how to run a bash script as root?
[15:03] <Dr_willis_> theres play audio cd with amarok.. but no idea how to remove it.
[15:03] <Dr_willis_> sudo ./pathtoscript
[15:04] <Dr_willis_> or sudo bash scriptname
[15:04] <aleboco> but i would need to do it at boot
[15:04] <aleboco> i tried with autostart, but no luck
[15:04] <Dr_willis_> sudo does run it as root.. :) you said root.. not boot.
[15:04] <Dr_willis_> :)
[15:05] <aleboco> yes, i mean both!
[15:05] <Dr_willis_> rc.local is a script normally used to run things at BOOT time.  befor X even starts
[15:05] <Dr_willis_>  /etc/rc.local
[15:05] <aleboco> that's the problem, i already tried it
[15:05] <Dr_willis_> what is this script supposed to do?
[15:06] <aleboco> it is a series of commands to try some options sugested by powertop
[15:06] <aleboco> some of them need to be run as root
[15:06] <aleboco> i tried rc.local, but it doesn't work with all
[15:07] <aleboco> i thought maybe i could use .kde/autostart, but i don't know how
[15:08] <Dr_willis_> Such things shoule be ran by rc.local i imagine. Most likely you put them in rc.local wrongly
[15:08] <Dr_willis_> !autostart
[15:09] <Dr_willis_> the kde autostart dir. is just a dir. with executable scripts or links. in it.
[15:09] <Dr_willis_> if using rc.local be sure th ecommands are Befor the 'exit' command at the end of the script
[15:09] <Dr_willis_> also give the full path to the script you wish to run. and be sure its executable.
[15:09] <Dr_willis_> you may want to spawn it to the background also with &   ie:
[15:10] <aleboco> yes, i tried with rc.local
[15:10] <Dr_willis_>  /path/to/powertopscript.sh &
[15:10] <aleboco> i even made a test for the script
[15:10] <andrzej> how to install cdrom in linux kubuntu?
[15:10] <aleboco> and then run it with sudo bash path/script
[15:10] <aleboco> and it worked
[15:10] <aleboco> but when  put it in autostart it does not
[15:10] <Dr_willis_> I imagine you made a simple mistake in the rc.local,  if the script is executable, and done correctly you dont need to 'bash whateverscript;
[15:11] <Dr_willis_> You do NOT run 'sudo' type things from the autostart dir.
[15:11] <Dr_willis_> It will want the root password.. and you wojnt see any prompts for the password
[15:11] <aleboco> i tried that to see if the one i put in autostart was ok
[15:11] <aleboco> yes
[15:11] <aleboco> that's why i tried visudo
[15:12] <aleboco> but apparently without any luck
[15:12] <aleboco> i added a line like this
[15:12] <Dr_willis_> You could just put the commands in rc.local and not have a script being called.
[15:12] <aleboco> yes, but some command needs to be run after i login, otherwise it doesn't work
[15:13] <Dr_willis_> what commands are these?
[15:13] <Dr_willis_> You could alwyas have a Autostart entry that does 'kdesudo /path/to/script' i guess it will then ask for the password
[15:14] <aleboco> ah
[15:14] <aleboco> and i tried visudo to avoid it
[15:14] <aleboco> could it work?
[15:14] <Dr_willis_> visudo? that just lets you edit the sudoers file.. what does that have to do with anything?
[15:14] <aleboco> to allow the script without requesting me a pw
[15:15] <Dr_willis_> I cant think of any 'powertop' tweaks that need to be ran as a user.
[15:15] <aleboco> antonio ALL=NOPASSWD:/home/antonio/.kde/Autostart/powertop_tips_EXEC.sh
[15:15] <Dr_willis_> You can alwyas allow the users to run sudo with no password.. not a great idea from a security point of view.
[15:15] <aleboco> i know
[15:16] <aleboco> i just would like to allow only that script to be lowed without password
[15:16] <Dr_willis_> the way you are doing it - will run all the tips as root anyway.. so i dont see how running from rc.local is different fron the AUtostart directory way
[15:16] <aleboco> it is just that two commands don't work if run before login
[15:16] <Dr_willis_> which are?
[15:17] <aleboco> i don't know why, but i made many tries
[15:17] <aleboco> just a second
[15:17] <aleboco> echo 1500 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs
[15:17] <aleboco> and hal-disable-polling --device /dev/cdrom
[15:18] <cyberponix> this may seem like a dumb question but oh well, what does it mean when you guys put a ! before a word, yes I know it is important
[15:18] <Dr_willis_> The fist one 'echo' should be ran by root i imagine..  I dont think a USER would be allowed to mess with /proc/sys/Stuff at all.
[15:18] <andrzej> how to install cdrom in linux kubuntu?
[15:19] <Dr_willis_> andrzej,  Huh? ya plug in the cdrom drive, and it should appear as a /dev/XXXX entry, you then mount whever you want.
[15:19] <Dr_willis_> dmesg, may tell you what device it is. It may allready be at /dev/cdrom1 or similer also
[15:19] <Dr_willis_> cyberponix,  ! is for bot commands
[15:19] <Dr_willis_> !hello | cyberponix
[15:19] <Dr_willis_> !bot
[15:19] <aleboco> yes, but if i put it in rc.local it doesn't work. all the others do
[15:20] <cyberponix> ok thnx
[15:20] <Dr_willis_> aleboco,  somthing seems very very... odd about that..
[15:20] <cyberponix> !atheros
[15:20] <Dr_willis_>  echo 1500 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs
[15:20] <Dr_willis_> bash: /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs: Permission denied
[15:20] <aleboco> why?
[15:21] <Dr_willis_> aleboco,  my user cant write to that file at all.. so  one would have to be root to do so.  I dont see how logging int o X would affect it in any way
[15:21] <aleboco> i don't know either
[15:21] <Dr_willis_> you are not doing a 'sudo  echo 1500 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs' are you?
[15:21] <aleboco> no
[15:22] <aleboco> i just wrote the command in rc.local
[15:22] <aleboco> before exit
[15:22] <aleboco> and with other commands
[15:22] <Dr_willis_>  echo 1500 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs  , in rc.local should set it. Its possible its getting reset by somthing else.
[15:22] <aleboco> but others work, it doesn't
[15:22] <aleboco> ah
[15:23] <aleboco> that's a good idea
[15:23] <Dr_willis_> there are other 'powersaving'  tools out that set things on the fly - if you are on battery or not.
[15:23] <aleboco> as?
[15:24] <Dr_willis_> !info laptop-mode
[15:24] <Dr_willis_> !find laptop
[15:25] <Dr_willis_> I gotta run  - good luck
[15:25] <aleboco> ok, thanks!
[15:26] <Schuenemann> !compiz
[15:28] <wildfrovii> Hola
[15:28] <wildfrovii> ?
[15:28] <goshawk> wildfrovii: hi
[15:28] <wildfrovii> que pasa!
[15:29] <Jucato> !es
[15:29] <goshawk> uhm.... !it
[15:29] <goshawk> !it
[15:29] <LiquidSun> german :P
[15:30] <goshawk> !de
[15:30] <LiquidSun> lol
[15:30] <LiquidSun> ok ty
[15:30] <goshawk> :D
[15:30] <Schuenemann> you know, you can play with the bot in private
[15:31] <goshawk> Schuenemann: thanks, good to know
[15:31] <Schuenemann> :D
[15:33] <sbucat> hi again! i have a silly problem with my sound card intel alc861-vd
[15:33] <sbucat> when i record wiht audacity the volume is very high
[15:34] <sbucat> when i record with recordmydeskopt the volume is very low
[15:34] <sbucat> -.-''
[15:44] <wallace> br
[15:45] <wallace> qual é o link para BR
[15:46] <sbucat>  br?
[15:46] <sbucat> !language
[15:46] <cyberponix> not to sound rude but this is an english room
[15:47] <WaY> hello
[15:47] <cyberponix> hey
[15:47] <WaY> I don't know why keyboard stops working when I run compiz --replace
[15:47] <WaY> what should I do?
[15:48] <sbucat> mm sometime happend to me too
[15:48] <sbucat> i reload kwin
[15:48] <cyberponix> I'm yet to see that on my end
[15:48] <sbucat> and then reload compiz
[15:48] <pepe__> hola
[15:48] <sbucat> hola
[15:48] <pepe__> alguien me puede ayudar con un problema que tengo en kubuntu
[15:49] <sbucat> !english
[15:49] <cyberponix> ENGLISH
[15:49] <sbucat> !english | pepe__
[15:49] <pepe__> thanks
[15:49] <sbucat> !spanish
[15:49] <pepe__> ok gracias
[15:50] <cyberponix> yw
[15:50] <sbucat> cyberponix: do you know something about this silly recordmydesktop?
[15:50] <sbucat> ah i am angry
[15:51] <cyberponix> record on desktop?
[15:51] <sbucat> !recordmydeskop
[15:51] <sbucat> well
[15:51] <sbucat> recordmydesktop is a software to create screen cast
[15:51] <sbucat> with audio too
[15:51] <WaY> sbucat but I cant reload kwin because I have no input for keyboard
[15:52] <sbucat> WaY: xD i use a trick
[15:52] <WaY> sbucat how do I reload kwin?
[15:52] <sbucat> WaY: now go on your k bar
[15:52] <sbucat> well press Alt F2
[15:52] <cyberponix> sbucat: I can not say I do know anything about that...
[15:53] <sbucat> then write kwin --replace when your keyboard is running
[15:53] <sbucat> that type will be stored
[15:53] <cyberponix> do you know anything about getting wifi to work on a toshiba laptop?
[15:53] <sbucat> cyberponix: i have a toshiba with wifi xD
[15:53] <sbucat> but i use an usb card
[15:53] <cyberponix> satellite?
[15:53] <sbucat> internal card sucks
[15:54] <cyberponix> thats all I have for now
[15:54] <WaY> I'm on kde4 and klaunch on kde4 doesnt record commands from one session to another
[15:54] <sbucat> WaY: o..
[15:54] <sbucat> are you sure?
[15:54] <cyberponix> reboot?
[15:54] <WaY> yes
[15:54] <sbucat> WaY: you could create a script
[15:55] <sbucat> open kate
[15:55] <sbucat> and write kwin --replace
[15:55] <cyberponix> WaY: have you tried a reboot?
[15:55] <WaY> I have logout, reboot a hundred times
[15:55] <sbucat> then save as kwin --replace
[15:55] <sbucat> o sorry save as kwin.sh
[15:55] <WaY> I'm going to make a script from console
[15:55] <sbucat> and put on your deskotp
[15:55] <WaY> thats it
[15:56] <sbucat> then you'll click on that script
[15:56] <sbucat> of course you set executable
[15:56] <sbucat> it
[15:57] <sbucat> cyberponix: what kind of wifi have you?
[15:57] <sbucat> a sucking atheros ?
[15:59] <cyberponix> atheros
[15:59] <cyberponix> yes
[15:59] <sbucat> o well i have too
[15:59] <sbucat> i have nerver used
[15:59] <sbucat> that's all
[15:59] <sbucat> 15 bucks and you have a wifi compatible one
[16:00] <cyberponix> I had it working yesterday, so I reformatted my drive to get rid of windows completely and well the fresh install and now I can not re do what I did yesterday
[16:00] <sbucat> lol you are luckly
[16:01] <sbucat> have you used madwifi driver?
[16:01] <cyberponix> how do u figure?
[16:01] <cyberponix> thats how I did it yesterdeay
[16:01] <sbucat> maybe your atheros is not sucking as mine
[16:01] <sbucat> i have ar5006 i think
[16:02] <sbucat> and i have tried whole way but...
[16:02] <cyberponix> r3366+5007 here
[16:02] <sbucat> it was a silly card with windwos too...
[16:03] <cyberponix> u wanna see if the way I did it yesterday works for you?
[16:03] <sbucat> ah not at all
[16:03] <cyberponix> lol
[16:03] <sbucat> if on windows it doesn't work i don't waste my time
[16:03] <sbucat> i know it's a bad card
[16:03] <sbucat> xD
[16:04] <sbucat> experience...bad experience
[16:04] <cyberponix> but then again you arnt on windows anymore it seems some hardware works better without that windows curse
[16:05] <sbucat> cyberponix: i am using only linux now
[16:05] <sbucat> i have not windows xD
[16:06] <sbucat> really my card works but it's a silly card beause with a silly among router and computer it doesn't work
[16:07] <sbucat> + silly wall
[16:08] <sbucat> cyberponix: do you have iwconfig pastebin ?
[16:11] <newbember> hi 2all
[16:11] <cyberponix> no don't think so
[16:12] <newbember> any russians here?
[16:12] <RurouniJones> !ru
[16:13] <newbember> хуясе
[16:13] <newbember> меня и аглицкий не давит
[16:13] <WaY> sbucat finaly i've changed to kwin and still not working keyboard
[16:13] <newbember> hehe
[16:14] <newbember> check xorg.conf
[16:14] <WaY> newbember when kde is loading works until it get composited
[16:14] <newbember> compiz on my laptop work perfect.. whats wrong?
[16:14] <WaY> after that my keyboard stop working
[16:15] <WaY> I thought you were talking to me before, sorry
[16:15] <newbember> full keyboard or just some key bindings?
[16:15] <WaY> full keyboard
[16:15] <newbember> to you
[16:15] <WaY> ahm ok
[16:15] <newbember> quite strange
[16:16] <sbucat> WaY: mm when you use kwin keyboard is still not working
[16:16] <newbember> you are using compiz?
[16:16] <sbucat> ?
[16:16] <WaY> but when I return to kwin --replace still not working
[16:16] <sbucat> :D
[16:16] <WaY> it only works when is loading kde
[16:16] <sbucat> it's very strange issue
[16:16] <newbember> you need to smoke logs
[16:16] <WaY> ok, what do you want me to paste?
[16:17] <newbember> xsession.errors
[16:17] <newbember> in your home directory
[16:17] <WaY> ok, just a second, I'm rebooting for starting kde without composite
[16:17] <WaY> and see if keyboard works
[16:18] <newbember> anybody using laptop Acer 5920G?
[16:19] <WaY> ok, it doesnt works runing kwin from starting session
[16:19] <lukasz> how i have to use IRC??
[16:19] <newbember> (-:
[16:19] <lukasz> where i can find sever's
[16:20] <newbember> which one you need?
[16:20] <tictric> lukasz: you already found one :)
[16:20] <lukasz> it my first use of irc
[16:21] <lukasz> i come from poland
[16:21] <newbember> I`m form Ukraine ))
[16:21] <lukasz> you now i have installed gadu-gadu i think -this is shit
[16:21] <newbember> but 5 years I was live in Poland
[16:22] <WaY> about keyboard it sayskcminit (5778) KxkbConfig::load: Use kxkb false
[16:22] <WaY> about keyboard it says on the log: kcminit (5778) KxkbConfig::load: Use kxkb false
[16:22] <lukasz> i'm looking for a book about php, could you now somethink interestink
[16:22] <newbember> hm
[16:23] <lukasz> po polsku powiedz:)
[16:23] <romunov> when i try to open a file from Dolphin, i get this message: sudo apt-get install esound
[16:23] <romunov> oops
[16:23] <romunov> when i try to open a file from Dolphin, i get this message: KDEInit could not launch 'ooffice'.
[16:23] <newbember> just install
[16:24] <tictric> !pl | lukasz
[16:25] <WaY> xserver-xorg-input-kbd?
[16:25] <WaY> kvkbd?
[16:25] <lukasz> dzieki
[16:26] <ixenakis> hello  :-))
[16:29] <WaY> newbember are you there?
[16:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> is KDE free'er than GNOME?
[16:41] <Githzerai> CostaRicanQuaker: both are free. They are either free or non-free, no middle ;)
[16:41] <CostaRicanQuaker> but they're completely dependent on free tools and apps right?
[16:41] <CostaRicanQuaker> they don't recquire any proprietor software?
[16:43] <WaY> no
[16:50] <cyberponix> Dr_willis:  are you still around?
[16:56] <heinkel_111> hi
[16:57] <heinkel_111> i am just getting my new laptop setup with kubuntu. I have a intel graphics card on it (integrated, non-fancy stuff) but it appears I am using a VESA graphics driver by default...there should be something better, right?
[17:02] <Coggz> hi guys,
[17:02] <Coggz> can i ask for general pc help or do i need another channel?
[17:03] <cyberponix> Coggz: this is for Kubuntu
[17:04] <Coggz> ok. so where should i ask...
[17:04] <cyberponix> is it linux related?
[17:05] <cyberponix> I have seen some things for other distros talked about on here
[17:05] <Coggz> no, i need to ask some assistance fixing a pc
[17:05] <Coggz> hardware purely... no software involved (unfortunately)
[17:05] <cyberponix> shoot
[17:06] <cyberponix> I am not saying I can help but I'll give it a try
[17:08] <Coggz> ok, asus a7v333 motherboard... when powered on, the fans all kick in but it a) does not display on screen, & b) does not appear to boot (no HDD sound).
[17:08] <Coggz> i have tried 3 graphics cards, all work in my machiene but not on the asus
[17:08] <cyberponix> bios check out/
[17:08] <cyberponix> ?
[17:08] <gamu> hello/привет всем
[17:09] <cyberponix> !ru
[17:09] <cyberponix> Bios does not even show up?
 !ru what is?
[17:10] <Coggz> cyberponix: no idea... i dont get a post screen
[17:10] <WaY> how do I purge with configuration files included all kde4?
[17:11] <cyberponix> it was a boot tigger for what came on the screen right after I typed it
[17:11] <cyberponix> all other hardware check out in other pc or just vid cards?
[17:13] <Jaxtor> sooo, who's up for helping me getting my 8800gts graphics driver to work on kubuntu? :p
[17:14] <Jaxtor> not used to linux, at all
[17:14] <Coggz> cyberponix: i have to try different ram, etc... i have no idea why this could do it.. no beeps..
[17:16] <cyberponix> sounds like a bad proccessor
[17:17] <Coggz> really... that bad?
[17:18] <AidanPryde> hi, Question: I do have Ubuntu 8.04 installed and want to switch to Kubuntu (8.04)
[17:18] <AidanPryde> How do I do so?
[17:18] <cyberponix> well depending on the one you dicid to go with it ca be pricy
[17:18] <Coggz> sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[17:18] <AidanPryde> thats it?
[17:18] <Coggz> !kde-desktop
[17:18] <cyberponix> thats it
[17:18] <Coggz> !kde
[17:18] <Coggz> oh,
[17:18] <Coggz> kubuntu-desktop
[17:19] <AidanPryde> and will install KDE 3.X or KDE 4?
[17:19] <AidanPryde> and how do I decide if gnome of KDE starts while booting?
[17:20] <Coggz> im not sure, follow that link, it should tell you
[17:20] <AidanPryde> and will apt see that some stuff is already installed?
[17:20] <gamu> may i ask litle quetion?
[17:21] <sigma_> indeed
[17:21] <cyberponix> shoot
[17:21] <sigma_> !ask
[17:21] <Schuenemann> AidanPryde, it won't install it again
[17:21] <WaY>  does anybody knows why my keyboard stop working when kde 4.1 is loaded? when is loading works perfectly (the first 3 seconds) after doing loging on kdm
[17:22] <AidanPryde> ok, last Question: can I start the installation from Gnome/synaptic? Or should I close down Gnome and do so from console?
[17:22] <Coggz> cyberponix: im gonna strip out my processor, and pop it in... boo hoo
[17:23] <sigma_> WaY: are you on kubuntu 8.04 w/ kde 4.1 b2?
[17:23] <WaY> yes sigma_
[17:24] <WaY> it seems like KDE may be loading a particular keymap that is disabling my keyboard.
[17:24] <sigma_> WaY: doubt thats a kde problem, seems a kubuntu issue, will probably be resolved in intrepid. however if it is a kde4.1 issue, wait for the rc
[17:24] <sigma_> WaY: did it work in beta 1?
[17:25] <WaY> i have it working before
[17:25] <WaY> were do you set keyboard layout on kde4?
[17:25] <AidanPryde> does the xorg.conf say something stupid about your keyboard?
[17:25] <WaY> no AidanPryde
[17:26] <amelie> hi everyone
[17:26] <amelie> it's me again
[17:26] <Coggz> hi###
[17:26] <AidanPryde> ok, I'm lost then
[17:26] <sigma_> try to reconfigure the xorg file
[17:26] <gamu> hi
[17:26] <amelie> could enable 3d desktop
[17:26] <WaY> about keyboard it says on the log: kcminit (5778) KxkbConfig::load: Use kxkb false
[17:26] <amelie> but
[17:26] <sigma_> WaY: does kde3 work perfectly?
[17:26] <WaY> I have no kde3
[17:26] <amelie> still can't increase the desktop numbers in kubuntu hardy '
[17:26] <WaY> but on gnome works
[17:26] <sigma_> WaY: how can you not have kde3?
[17:26] <Coggz> ffs... why do thyy put connectors on mobos in the hardest to get at places???!!!
[17:27] <WaY> because I installed from hardy kde4 mix
[17:27] <sigma_> WaY: oh you have ubuntu 8.04 with kde4.1 b2 installed?
[17:27] <amelie> any help? also i don't have sound
[17:27] <WaY> after installing kde4mix i've upgraded to 4.1
[17:28] <sigma_> WaY: i see, well try the regular kubuntu cd
[17:28] <sigma_> WaY: i think its safer to use intrepid when installing 4.1 standalone, but wait for a few alphas to pass, right now its more or less the same as hardy
[17:29] <WaY> ok
[17:29] <WaY> i'm going to reinstall from intrepid
[17:29] <sigma_> WaY: at your own risk:)
[17:30] <sigma_> WaY: its quite under developed, the installer is not even a gui
[17:30] <WaY> no problem
[17:30] <WaY> sigma_ but you don't know were can I change de keyboard layout on kde4?
[17:30] <sigma_> WaY: just backup your data beforehand, it could destroy your system:)
[17:31] <sigma_> WaY: System Settings >>> Keyboard & Mouse
[17:31] <ubuntu__> iam on the live cd and the sda6 is not mounted.     $ sudo fsck.ext3 -p -c -v /dev/sda6
[17:31] <ubuntu__> fsck.ext3: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda6
[17:31] <ubuntu__> /dev/sda6: The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[17:31] <ubuntu__> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:e2fsck -b 8193 <device>              help?
[17:32] <sigma_> however i dont think it works properly in hardy
[17:32] <WaY> I've deleted ~/.kde4
[17:32] <WaY> and now works
[17:32] <WaY> what a misterious thing
[17:33] <sigma_> WaY: oh i thought you would have done that
[17:33] <WaY> nop :)
[17:33] <sigma_> WaY: yeah you need to because the kde settings from 4.0.x would probably not be compatible with 4.1
[17:34] <WaY> first I thought it was a problem of compiz
[17:39] <Coggz> cyberponix: not el proccessor
[17:40] <gamu> #!ru
[17:42] <wainwright> Hey guys. I was wondering if any of you know how to add desktops to a KDE3 session so I can get a 4 sided cube with Compiz Fusion.
[17:42] <WaY> how can I change screen resolution?
[17:42] <genii> !ccsm
[17:43] <genii> wainwright: Set the number of virtual desktops in the ccsm program
[17:43] <wainwright> In General? It will not let me.
[17:44] <ubuntu__> iam on the live cd and the sda6 is not mounted.     $ sudo fsck.ext3 -p -c -v /dev/sda6  fsck.ext3: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda6     /dev/sda6: The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2  filesystem.
[17:44] <ubuntu__> If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:e2fsck -b 8193 <device>              help?
[17:44] <wainwright> Number of Desktops appears blue and I cannot change the value.
[17:45] <genii> ubuntu__: Follow it's advice. Eg: sudo e2fsck -b8193 /dev/sda6
[17:46] <genii> wainwright: alt-f2     kdesudo ccsm
[17:46] <ubuntu__> genii:  done. no use
[17:47] <WaY> how can I change screen resolution?
[17:47] <wainwright> genii: Still not allowing me to change it.
[17:47] <genii> ubuntu__: What does:   sudo fdisk -l | grep sda6      report
[17:48] <genii> wainwright: Is the user you are on as the first user which was created when you installed, or a user added afterwards?
[17:49] <wainwright> genii: The first user.
[17:50] <genii> WaY: A fast way is usually to ctrl-alt  then the + or - key on your number pad
[17:51] <genii> wainwright: No other immediate ideas come to mind then. Perhaps ask them in #compiz-fusion
[17:52] <wainwright> I did. They solved it. Thanks very much :)
[17:53] <genii> ubuntu__: Does the command:   sudo fdisk -l | grep sda6                  say that the partition is type is 83 Linux          or something different?
[17:53] <genii> wainwright: np
[17:54] <anom01y> anyone here know much about alsa ? #alsa is dead
[17:55] <anom01y> http://pastebin.ca/1063633    "amixer: Mixer hw:0 load error: Invalid argument"    I dont know what this means or how to fix it..
[17:58] <gamu> #кг
[17:58] <gamu> #ru
[17:58] <genii> !ru | gamu
[18:07] <slashammett> j'ai un probléme de freeze sous kubuntu quelqun pourrait m'aider svp?
[18:07] <anom01y> how come whenever I reboot the computer hdd1 and hdb1 switch names all the time (hdd1 becomes hdb1, and vice versa), then when I reboot again they switch back, its kind of annoying
[18:07] <anom01y> (one is a sata the other ide)
[18:08] <genii> !fr | slashammett
[18:17] <genii> anom01y: Perhaps use uuid instead of /dev/hdb1   or such. This would be in the loading line of the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:25] <slow-motion> hi
[18:27] <nck> can i use kde4 icon set in gnome ?
[18:29] <Githzerai> nck: only if u find package with kde icons and gnome icon names ;)
[18:31] <nck> Githzerai: means if i install kde4 icon in gnome, some qt app will show its icon in gnome menu?
[18:34] <Roey> hi
[18:34] <Roey> I opened up a KDE4 session alongside my KDE3 one and now I don't hear sound from my KDE3 session.  What gives??
[18:38] <jose> hi
[18:39] <Roey> hi
[18:39] <jose> you speak  spanish?
[18:39] <Roey> nein
[18:43] <darcy> Does anyone know what program I would use to to convert divx or avi files to dvd? I've already tried DeVeDe with not success.
[18:44] <Githzerai> nck: yes, but only if u install deafult kde icons. I would prefer using Gnome icon theme that has icons for KDE apps
[18:44] <jose> hello
[18:45] <nck> Githzerai: ya, that is what i want. any idea where should i get it?
[18:46] <Githzerai> nckL first option or the second one ? :)
[18:47] <darcy> what program converts divx or avi files to dvd
[18:47] <Lupus> Hey
[18:48] <Githzerai> nck: ?
[18:48] <Lupus> How long does it take a PSU to discharge? I'm switching to a different PSU and need to replace the fan
[18:48] <Cugel> Hello.
[18:48] <jhutchins> darcy: Check out tovid.
[18:48] <darcy> thanks jhutchins
[18:48] <jhutchins> darcy: mplayer/mencode will do it, but it's difficult.
[18:49] <Cugel> After a reboot Thunderbird starts on the wrong place on my (twinview) screen -- and also without borders. Where does KDE store info on window position and size of programs I start?
[18:49] <nck> Githzerai: i mean where can i download the gnome icons that has icons for kde apps
[18:50] <Githzerai> nck: gnome-look.org The bigger the file, the more icons it has. ;)
[18:50] <nck> Githzerai: thanks alot
[18:50] <jose> alguien hala español?
[18:50] <Githzerai> nck: ;)
[18:50] <jhutchins> !es | jose
[18:50] <AidanPryde> hi, i use Ubuntu 8.04 and just installed the kubuntu-desktop Metapackage. After reboot kdm started, I logged in, but now I am again in gnome. How can I tell kdm to start KDE?
[18:51] <Githzerai> AidanPryde: select session on login
[18:51] <jose> es mi primera vez en linux
[18:51] <AidanPryde> okay...
[18:51] <AidanPryde> i'll try, thx alot
[18:51] <jhutchins> AidanPryde: Are you getting kdm or gdm?
[18:51] <jose> ok
[18:51] <AidanPryde> kdm
[18:51] <jhutchins> AidanPryde: I think you have an option for default session in kcontrol, not sure.
[18:52] <Githzerai> jhutchins: session type is selected on login screen, kdm or gdm or whatever.... ;)
[18:53] <jhutchins> Githzerai: I know that's an option, but where is the default selection set?
[18:54] <darcy> jhutchins - I used synaptics to install tovid in kubuntu and now I can't find it to run it. any ideas
[18:54] <Githzerai> jhutchins: systemsettings - advanced - login...
[18:54] <jhutchins> darcy: Didn't install in the menu?
[18:55] <Githzerai>  jhutchins: default : use previous...
[18:55] <lod_> hi all
[18:55] <lod_> i have a Q about sistem perm.; "rwxr-xr-x+" what the "+" means at the end and how to assign it?
[18:55] <darcy> jhutchins: what I normally would have called the "start menu" before in my windows days - no
[18:55] <jhutchins> darcy: try "which tovid" or "which todisc"
[18:56] <TataYoyo> yo
[18:56] <darcy> you mean download and install those ones...
[18:57] <mahero> rr
[18:59] <richard> hi
[18:59] <richard> how can I stop konversation loading when I start the computer?
[18:59] <darcy> jhutchins: what do you mean "which tovid" or "which todisc"?
[19:00] <darcy> test
[19:00] <richard> !bash
[19:01] <darcy> jhutchins: I'm very new to linux (2 days to be exact) - I'm still a little inept
[19:02] <amelie> hi
[19:02] <romunov> i'm looking for a cool theme for KDE... any suggestions?
[19:02] <amelie> i need help with the same problem... again
[19:02] <amelie> can't enable more than 1 desktop in kubuntu
[19:03] <amelie> i tried to add 4 desktops in the settings menu, in the ccsm, but nothing work
[19:03] <Githzerai> romunov: Theme for what? icons, windows, style, wallpapwr.. ? :)
[19:03] <amelie> i reinstall compiz
[19:03] <amelie> and doesn't allow me to set more than 1 desktop
[19:05] <romunov> Githzerai: all :P
[19:05] <Githzerai> amelie: are u sure u have compiz-kde installed ?
[19:05] <amelie> yes
[19:05] <amelie> i have the wobbly windows
[19:05] <amelie> i can enable the negative feature
[19:05] <amelie> etc
[19:05] <amelie> i know i have compiz
[19:06] <amelie> i don't know if is different
[19:06] <amelie> but i have kde desktop with compiz enabled
[19:06] <Githzerai> amelie: under general options find desktop size and put say 4 for horisontal
[19:06] <amelie> yes
[19:06] <amelie> i've already tried that
[19:06] <amelie> and the only thing it does
[19:06] <amelie> is put the same desktop icon LARGER
[19:06] <amelie> just that
[19:07] <amelie> it only stretches the desktop icon on the taskbar
[19:07] <Agent_bob> !enter
[19:07] <Dr_willis_> !compiz
[19:07] <Githzerai> amelie: under Preferences what backend do u use ?
[19:08] <amelie> don't understand the question
[19:08] <amelie> i'm newbie in this
[19:08] <amelie> where i found that
[19:08]  * Agent_bob looks at Dr_willis_ </shrugs>
[19:08] <Dr_willis_> compiz can save its 'settings' in different ways. Some times when you change things. kde/compiz dosent see the changes.
[19:09] <amelie> ok
[19:09] <amelie> i found it
[19:09] <Dr_willis_> it seems the 'flat file' option to save the settings. often works best for me. BUt i rarely use compiz any more
[19:09] <Githzerai> In ccsm, down left, click on preferences, should be "backend" option , what does it say ?
[19:09] <darcy> anyone know why after I installed "tovid" using synaptics that I can't find it to run it
[19:09] <qunix> system >adiministrato>synaptic
[19:10] <Dr_willis_> darcy,  menu items some times dont get refreshed. try running it from the terminal
[19:10] <amelie> it says: profile: default  /   BACKEND: flat-file configuration backend
[19:11] <Agent_bob> darcy could be hiden in the menu also.     or may not have auto refreshed.   kbuildsycoco
[19:11] <amelie> the integration is grayed
[19:11] <Githzerai> amelie: sudo apt-get install compiz-kde
[19:11] <darcy> how do I get the menu to autorefresh or can I manually refresh it.
[19:11] <Agent_bob> kbuildsycoca   sorry.  that ends with a
[19:11] <darcy> in the terminal mode, what would be the code used
[19:12]  * Dr_willis_ wonders if 'tovid' even has a GUI..
[19:12] <Agent_bob> apt-cache show tovid
[19:12] <amelie> i'm on the konsole, is installing the compiz kde
[19:12] <amelie> now, what do i do?
[19:13] <Githzerai> amelie: now change backend to kconfig
[19:13] <melkart> will 8.10 feature exclusively kde4? (and not kde 3)
[19:14] <Githzerai> melkart: yes
[19:15] <slashammett> quelqun pourrai mexpliquer l'activation de l'UDMA sous kubuntu s'il vous plait?
[19:15] <Agent_bob> melkart BUT! you will be able to install kde3 in it, as you can kde4 in the 8.4 release
[19:15] <melkart> i see. thank you
[19:16] <amelie> i've done it
[19:16] <amelie> still the same
[19:16] <Agent_bob> they are not finished with kde3 yet. it's still in development and i'm forward looking to the final release of kde3
[19:16] <amelie> :(
[19:17] <amelie> can't configure more than one
[19:17] <Agent_bob> "reboot will fix anything"
[19:17] <Githzerai> amelie: Have u even run compiz?
[19:17] <amelie> yesssssssss
[19:17] <amelie> i've have run it in graphic mode, in the konsole
[19:18] <Githzerai> Agent_bob: Kde 3 is done, no work on it anymore. KDE 4 is from now on default.
[19:18] <Agent_bob> Githzerai i beg to differ.
[19:18] <amelie> i've have enabled the cube in ubuntu hardy... i just tried the kubuntu version
[19:18] <amelie> and a lot of things are buggy...
[19:18] <amelie> starting with the desktop thing
[19:18] <amelie> and ending with the dvd playback...
[19:19] <Dr_willis_> one of the many reasons i dont use compiz. :)
[19:19] <Agent_bob> Githzerai are you a kde developer ?
[19:19] <Githzerai> Agent_bob: you're wrong. Only bugfixes wil be released for KDE 3 , no new features. ;)
[19:19] <amelie> i tried the kde 4 desktop too
[19:19] <amelie> and lot of problems
[19:19] <Githzerai> Agent_bob: no just clever reader ;)
[19:19] <Agent_bob> Githzerai Jucato said there was another kde3 comming.   and he is a kde developer    whom should i believe ?
[19:20] <Githzerai> Agent_bob: Official site has nothing on it.....
[19:20] <Agent_bob> so ?
[19:21] <Githzerai> Agent_bob: If it will come, where is the release plan. Only kde 4 there ... ;)
[19:21] <NiceToMeatU> hi all
[19:21] <amelie> this is so frustrating...
[19:21] <amelie> :(
[19:21] <NiceToMeatU> nice NiceToMeat(RU)
[19:21] <NiceToMeatU> nick NiceToMeat(RU)
[19:21] <NiceToMeatU> :))
[19:22] <NiceToMeatU> в общем русские есть.
[19:22] <Agent_bob> Githzerai so you know it's a fact because it's not on a web page ?    hehhe old "missing link" reasoning showing up i think...
[19:22]  * DarthFrog is the missing link between men and apes. :-)
[19:22] <amelie> well thanks anyway guys...
[19:22] <amelie> bye
[19:23] <Agent_bob> DarthFrog :)
[19:23] <Agent_bob> amelie
[19:23] <NiceToMeatU> Guys, i'm noob in kubuntu... how i can install kopete?
[19:23] <DarthFrog> NiceToMeatU: Isn't it installed by default?
[19:23] <zabbadapp> it's already there
[19:23] <Agent_bob> amelie did you ask in #compiz-fusion ?
[19:23] <Dr_willis_> 'sudo apt-get install PACKAGENAME'
[19:23] <NiceToMeatU> default? O_O where?
[19:23] <NiceToMeatU> ahaha
[19:23] <NiceToMeatU> real default :)))
[19:24] <Dr_willis_> I thought it was installed by default also.
[19:24] <DarthFrog> NiceToMeatU: Try this: Press Alt-F2 and type "kopete" in the entry field.
[19:25] <zabbadapp> isn't it on the qucklaunch toolbar already (kde3 ... kde4 i don't know cause it stayed on my computer for about 5 min)
[19:25] <Githzerai> Agent_bob: Explain to me one logical thing: If they've put so much effort in KDE 4 why would they bother with KDE 3 anymore? KDE 4 goal is to replace kde 3 not to exsit alongside of it. Bugfixes : yes. New features: KDE 4;)
[19:26] <DarthFrog> AFAIK, KDE3 is in maintenance mode.
[19:27] <Agent_bob> Githzerai explain to me one thing.   if a man speaks and there is no Githzerai there to hear it, is he still wrong ?         why ?   why ?   why ?     if you can know what another person thinks then you can answer why they do womething.
[19:27] <Agent_bob> something
[19:28] <DarthFrog> Agent_bob: Are you saying there will be a new release of KDE3 other than a maintenance release?
[19:28] <Githzerai> Agent_bob: I'm just telling you that you misunderstood him, thats all ;)
[19:28] <Agent_bob> DarthFrog check the #kubuntu logs for what Jucato said about it yesterday or day before.
[19:29] <Agent_bob> !log
[19:29] <NiceToMeatU> but... guys... there no russian charset
[19:29] <NiceToMeatU> in kopete
[19:29] <Agent_bob> that would be an i18 issue.
[19:30] <NiceToMeatU> how i can install russian charset? :)))
[19:30] <Agent_bob> install the correct kde-language-pack
[19:30] <NiceToMeatU> ok.. i tray
[19:30] <DarthFrog> Ugh, there's no search ability for the logs. :-(
[19:30] <Agent_bob> browser can search
[19:30] <DarthFrog> NiceToMeatU: Did you get Kopete running?
[19:31] <zabbadapp> i know for sure cyrillic works in kopete (kde3), because I have gotten russian ICQ-spam ... even had a collegue at work translate it for me :)
[19:31] <Agent_bob> or at least i have never met a browser that couldn't
[19:32] <Agent_bob> zabbadapp if you couldn't read it, how do you know it displayed correctly ?     or did the tr4anslator read it from the very window ?
[19:32] <DarthFrog> Agent_bob: Damn! :-)  And I've already had a cup of coffee. :-)
[19:33] <Agent_bob> :)
[19:33] <zabbadapp> i did a screenshot and mailed it to someone who lived in the then soviet ...
[19:34] <richard> hi - if I have a .sh script, how can I make it so that I have to click and icon to run it, rather than run it from Konsole?
[19:34] <Githzerai> Agent_bob: I can't find it in log, sure it was yesterday ?
[19:35] <Agent_bob> zabbadapp what i'm saying is that the snapshot/log_file/copy/whatever  may have saved the encoding rather than what you actually viewed.    that's all.     i can see the russian text here in the console but it's not russian text it's the ascii chars for the encoding.   i.e. they couldn't read what i see but if i send it to someone the see it (translated) into their charset and can read it.
[19:35] <Agent_bob> Githzerai i said maybe two days ago
[19:36] <Agent_bob> i'm not sure what tz the logs are in.
[19:36] <Agent_bob> probably gmt
[19:36] <Agent_bob> so try two days
[19:36] <WaY> hello
[19:36] <DarthFrog> richard:  Right-click on the Desktop and select Create New/Link to Application.
[19:36] <WaY> Githzerai it happened again
[19:36] <WaY> I restarted computer and my keyboard turned off
[19:37] <WaY> but I can't be deleting ~/.kde4 all the time
[19:37] <Agent_bob> oh wait.  that link doesn't have  #kubuntu  only #ubuntu logs  ?
[19:37] <WaY> now works the ALT + F1...
[19:37] <DarthFrog> It has Kubuntu logs.
[19:38] <richard> DarthFrog: cheers
[19:38] <DarthFrog> There's a KDE4 story on Slashdot.
[19:38] <DarthFrog> richard: Yer welcome.
[19:38] <richard> DarthFrog: actually, one more question?
[19:38] <richard> the script is really simple
[19:38] <richard> its just:
[19:39] <richard> echo "test"
[19:39] <DarthFrog> richard: Answers are $1, Correct answers are $10.  Dumb looks are free.
[19:39] <richard> sudo shutdown -P +30
[19:39] <richard> lol
[19:39] <richard> i pointed that application link to it
[19:40] <richard> when i click it the Link to Application loads for ages but then nothing else happens
[19:40] <richard> is there any way to tell if its worked? :$
[19:40] <DarthFrog> richard: Is your script set executable?  How  are you sending the requisite password to sudo?
[19:41] <richard> the password is on the next line
[19:41] <richard> it works if I open Konsole and type ./test.sh
[19:42] <Githzerai> Agent_bob: quote Jucato : "there is another 3.5.x release planned." Note: last number=bugfix verasion. Amarok did the same with <IP_ADDRESS> Therefore no new features....
[19:43] <DarthFrog> richard: Not something I really know all that much about, sorry.
[19:43] <DarthFrog> That was your free dumb look. :-)
[19:43] <richard> ok, thankyou anyway!
[19:43] <NiceToMeatU> yeee :) russian charset is working :))))
[19:43] <Agent_bob> Githzerai i NEVER said new feathures.   i said another kde3 release.  anything beyond that is your concoction not mine
[19:44] <g6pd> howdy
[19:45] <g6pd> where can i get driver for n-br02g wireless adapter (laptop)
[19:45] <Agent_bob> Githzerai also read the context of those posts.
[19:46] <Dr_willis_> !wireless
[19:46] <g6pd> i tried  to install from cd with wine but didnt work
[19:46] <g6pd> howdy willis wass up dude ?
[19:46] <Dr_willis_> wine and windows drivers - that aint going to happen :)
[19:47] <g6pd> yap its a longshot
[19:48] <ubuntu__> how to eject the live cd while you are runing kubuntu by that live cd? and then insert a writable cd and writ it with k3b ?
[19:49]  * Agent_bob is kind of curious why they never built a *nix kernel that could exec file.exe or file.com natively
[19:49] <DarthFrog> ubuntu_: Interesting.  I don't think you can do that.  But I don't know for certain.
[19:49] <DarthFrog> Agent_bob: Probably because nobody who was capable of doing such a thing was interested in doing it.
[19:50] <Agent_bob> ubuntu__ you'd have to load the entire system into ram.  that can be done if you have enough ram.
[19:50] <DarthFrog> All you would do would produce a piss-poor version of Windows.
[19:50] <Agent_bob> DarthFrog possable
[19:50] <ubuntu__> Agent_bob:  ya i have 2g
[19:51] <Agent_bob> DarthFrog no.  i mean both elf and what ever form M$ uses   not an M$ only kernel
[19:51] <ubuntu__> Agent_bob:  how can i do it
[19:51] <DarthFrog> ubuntu_: Or you could load the system on a USB thumbdrive and boot from that.
[19:51] <ubuntu__> no. ill choose ram
 Yes I've read it . And for me there is a stong line between release and bugfix update. It's just a story for small children. Sorry if I offended you, but I just dissagree with that statement. ;)
[19:51] <DarthFrog> Agent_bob: Oh, I knew what you meant.  And my comment stands. :-)
[19:52] <Agent_bob> ubuntu__ i "think" it would have to be done at boot time.   the knoppix crew do it.
[19:52] <Agent_bob> DarthFrog heh.
[19:52] <ubuntu__> Agent_bob: how can i do it
[19:53] <Agent_bob> Githzerai offend ?     i have not been violated.
[19:53] <Agent_bob> ubuntu__ i didn't say i could do it.   i said it can be done.   the knoppix people do it.   so it can be done.   check with them on how they do it.
[19:53] <Githzerai> Agent_bob: Just to make sure. No violence intended, just a disagreement ;)
[19:54] <ubuntu__> my distro just gets held at boot up. at some hardware layer thing message.... any clue?
[19:55]  * Agent_bob get amused at the misuse of the word "offend" in this day and time...    as if an unkind word was able to "offend"   and it's not.   </shrugs>
[19:55] <Agent_bob> ubuntu__ ?   explain ?     do you have an installed linux system ?
[19:56] <ubuntu__> ya
[19:57] <Agent_bob> ya and it doesn't boot ?
[19:59] <Agent_bob> "hardware layer thing"   hal ?
[19:59] <darcy> I installed tovid and now when I click on it in the menu, it shows it loading then it goes away. any ideas how to fix it?
[19:59] <ubuntu__> ya
[19:59] <ubuntu__> Agent_bob:  dont know the exact mesg
[20:00] <Agent_bob> ubuntu__ ok.   from what you can remember,  does it "hang" or does keyboard input go to a black screen with text,  or ???
[20:02] <Agent_bob> anyone know what does this ?    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d420e0344
[20:03] <DarthFrog> Cute.  Never seen that one before.
[20:05] <DarthFrog> Agent_bob: In what context do you see that error msg?
[20:05] <Agent_bob> google has seen it about 1200 times
[20:05] <RYNIEK> #ubuntu.pl
[20:05] <ubuntu__> Agent_bob:  hang. stops responding.
[20:05] <ubuntu__> Agent_bob:  with a frozen picture of the last thing visible
[20:06] <DarthFrog> ubuntu_: The hang is permanent?  How long did you let it go?
[20:08] <Agent_bob> ubuntu__ that can probably be fixed/worked_around  but we need to know more about where it hangs.   and if it's truely hung   will  ctrl+alt+f1 change the screen ?
[20:09] <ubuntu__> Agent_bob:  no. nothing changes the screent. alt ctrl del or esc . none
[20:09] <Agent_bob> ok.   try booting with kernel argument added  "acpi=off"
[20:09] <Agent_bob> or "noacpi"
[20:10] <vdsy> anyone know the reason? running ubuntu and then "aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" made some KDE icons disappear
[20:10] <Agent_bob> also might add "nosplash"   to get more info should it still hang
[20:11] <ubuntu__> Agent_bob:  how do  i do that
[20:11] <Agent_bob> vdsy cause kubuntu-desktop is a meta package that depends on all the 'default' kubuntu files/settings   and thus hides something in the menu   as opposed to the "kde" meta package.
[20:11] <aref_> im brazilian yuo speak portuguese
[20:12] <vdsy> crap!!!
[20:12] <vdsy> purging kubuntu-desktop doesnt reach the dependencies either
[20:12] <vdsy> Agent_bob install kde-desktop fix this?
[20:13] <Agent_bob> ubuntu__ at the grub splash   or grub prompt    press [esc]   then select the version to boot and press   [e]   then the kernel line and press [e]   add    noacpi nosplash    and press [enter] then press [b]
[20:13] <Agent_bob> vdsy no.   running kmenu edit can fix it.
[20:13] <ubuntu__> ok
[20:13] <ubuntu__> ill try
[20:13] <Coggz> hey all
[20:13] <ubuntu__> thx
[20:13] <Agent_bob> is there a kde-desktop package ?
[20:14] <Coggz> anyone here using tablet-pc?
[20:14] <vdsy> yes there is
[20:14] <Agent_bob> vdsy i didn't say "kde-desktop"  i said "kde"
[20:14] <Agent_bob> no matter. you have installed the kubuntu defaults now.   so you'll have to tweek or purge   and tweek is easier.
[20:15] <vdsy> oh damn!!! too much work to do that
[20:15] <Agent_bob> vdsy ?   to run kmenuedit   and select the boxes that are not slected to display ???
[20:16] <Agent_bob> like show konqueror profiles    for example    imo that is one of the more useful menu itoms and kubuntu defaults to not show it....
[20:16] <aref_> si rom
[20:17] <Agent_bob> and terminal sessions ...
[20:17] <vdsy> actually, i jsut wanted to have both
[20:17] <vdsy> didnt think kubuntu-desktop would do this
[20:17] <Agent_bob> vdsy welcome to "just works" mentality.
[20:18] <vdsy> hahaha yeah ok
[20:19]  * Agent_bob 's translation of "just works"    "just works means; is setup the way one code monkey thought the rest of the world should want it setup."
[20:19] <vdsy> yes, and i actually use slackware
[20:19] <vdsy> wanted to try out the whole ubuntu/kubuntu thing
[20:20] <Agent_bob> vdsy i used slack 5 non-release release until last year.
[20:20] <vdsy> cool
[20:20] <vdsy> what happened, got sick of the manual tweaking eh
[20:21] <Agent_bob> no.   got rid of the lappy.   got handed a new one.
[20:21] <vdsy> no i got a lappy with slackware and ubuntu..it was great until my kubuntu blunder
[20:21] <Agent_bob> and seeing that i had also been using ubuntu sense hoary rooted, i figured it was easier to clone it than install anything else.
[20:22] <vdsy> pretty much the main reason i wanted to try out ubuntu
[20:22] <vdsy> less manual tweaking of anything
[20:22] <vdsy> i supposed anyway
[20:23] <Agent_bob> vdsy you can try reinstalling  ubuntu-desktop and see if it restores ubuntu defaults      sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[20:23] <vdsy> was thinking of that actually, BUT
[20:24] <vdsy> not sure where the but is yet
[20:25] <vdsy> not exactly sure how that would help
[20:25] <vdsy> other than the hutning down kde file one by one and install kde apps one by one...but dammit, too much work
[20:26] <vdsy> i came to ubuntu with the idea i didnt have to do this all the time
[20:26] <vdsy> hahaha
[20:26] <Agent_bob> one reason that i do NOT make a habbit of reccomending *buntu-desktop when people want to "add" another de to their system.   there are meta packages made for that. that don't mess with other defaults    (or at least not as badly)  examples are;  kde, xfce4 and, gnome
[20:27] <Agent_bob> vdsy open a terminal  and check what you "think" you lost...    maybe konqueror for example.   or what ever.   see if the command is still there.
[20:27] <asobi> is there a way to turn the screensaver on and off with a click or key?
[20:27]  * Agent_bob still thinks it's a menu issue      but could be wrong
[20:27] <vdsy> they're all there actually, it's the icons are missing....e.g. kopete while it's on, i cant see what they are....
[20:28] <vdsy> the icons on the menu are fine
[20:28] <vdsy> it's when i use an app when most of the icons in it are missing..or is it called widgets?
[20:28] <Agent_bob> vdsy yeah it's a theme/artwork/thang     reinstall ubuntu-desktop and see if it helps
[20:28] <vdsy> ok
[20:29] <vdsy> ill give it a go
[20:29] <vdsy> thanx a lot man
[20:29]  * Agent_bob assumes you had ubuntu-desktop before this happened
[20:29] <vdsy> yes ur right
[20:29] <Agent_bob> yeah try it..
[20:29] <vdsy> cuz y'know slackware always used KDE, more comfortable with it
[20:29] <vdsy> anyway
[20:29] <vdsy> thanx man
[20:30] <Agent_bob> welcome