[18:40] <schwaggg> im having problems installiong the drivers for my intel 82845g graphics card, can someone help please
[18:40] <_F-117> oR
[18:40] <csmith1994> Coolness oh ok
[18:40] <samuel_> Tryed ctrl-alt-f1 the  result was the  screen  showing  terminal
[18:40] <Prabz> arrrghhh: ping isn't working.. however, i can open it from the browser.. strange
[18:40] <Coolness> Okay norstrom. I will.
[18:40] <IDWMaster> skrite - Try device manager from the Software Center
[18:40] <cowboysaif> i repeat, intel 82845g graphics has open source drivers
[18:41] <arrrghhh> Prabz, could be cached.  sounds like a DNS issue as i previously guessed ;)
[18:41] <cowboysaif> it should install auto
[18:41] <Coolness> Thanks for the help all, ill report back if the fps dont change
[18:41] <cowboysaif> mine did
[18:41] <skrite_> IDWMaster, thanks
[18:41] <_F-117> Six_  lies
[18:41] <Prabz> arrrghhh: no, I've never tried opening the site in the browser before
[18:42] <arrrghhh> Prabz, then perhaps apt-key isn't using the proxy server correctly.
[18:42] <arrrghhh> or ping
[18:42] <IDWMaster> Why is Ubuntu Software Center listing proprietary software alongside regular search results?
[18:42] <arrrghhh> Prabz, just cheat.  put in the IP for it.
[18:42] <Prabz> arrrghhh: how to find ?
[18:42] <_F-117> Cntrl + Alt +F1 is a go to home
[18:42] <guntbert> Angelov: I see the pic, yes
[18:43] <arrrghhh> Prabz, <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:43] <Prabz> arrrghhh: looks like keyserver.ubuntu.com internal functioning isn't working?
[18:43] <arrrghhh> IDWMaster, you must have the universe or multiverse repo's enabled.
[18:43] <arrrghhh> Prabz, not sure what you mean by that.
[18:43] <slashfoo> arrrghhh: found BUG #620662 that _may_ be related to my issue
[18:44] <arrrghhh> slashfoo, is there a resolution to the bug...?
[18:44] <soreau> Need to send a folder to someone on windoze that probably can only understand 'zip' compression format. How can I 'zip up' a directory? (ie. create a zip archive containing a directory from CLI)
[18:44] <Angelov> guntbert: everything like its on the pic, on the next restart I wont have connection bcoz it will be created new "auto ethernet" in the network connection with no MAC address
[18:44] <brontoeee> soreau, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83877
[18:44] <she_dyed> soreau: type zip
[18:45] <slashfoo> arrrghhh: yeah, reading... but if it is [SOLVED] it isn't for me
[18:45] <guntbert> Angelov: if you posted that screenshot here others could have seen it as well...
[18:45] <Prabz> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:11371/pks/lookup?search=BF810CD5
[18:45] <Prabz> arrrghhh: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:11371/pks/lookup?search=BF810CD5
[18:45] <Slony> Hey, when will ubuntu users get the option to upgrade libpng to 1.4?
[18:46] <Angelov> gunbert: can you help me? DO you have any idea?
[18:46] <Prabz> arrrghhh: It's showing an error here
[18:46] <brontoeee> soreau, example:  zip -r test.zip /home/user/Documents/
[18:46] <arrrghhh> Prabz, what do you want me to say?  you have the wrong key i'm guessing... i have no clue.  disable that repo.
[18:46] <guntbert> Angelov: one idea: put a # in front of the two lines iface eth0 and hwaddress ..., so nm will really manage that interface
[18:47] <chickenjoymanok> hak hak hak
[18:47] <she_dyed> manok lol
[18:47] <soreau> brontoeee: Will that be ok if /home/user/Documents/ contains filenames with spaces and tick marks?
[18:47] <guntbert> !tab | Angelov
[18:47] <arrrghhh> Slony, you can upgrade anything you wish... but if you want it to be easy in the repo's you sometimes have to wait.
[18:47] <chickenjoymanok> try ifconfig
[18:47] <slashfoo> arrrghhh: it's the same thing that I'm describing, except my card is a 'tg3' (kernel module)
[18:47] <Angelov> gunbert: ok, I will try that
[18:47] <sporkboy> ok, nouveau and b43 are blacklisted, but still loading. how do i fix this?
[18:47] <rammyIRC> how to get the netwrok manager icon in the panel?i removed accidently
[18:47] <brontoeee> soreau, 95% sure it will be
[18:48] <Slony> arrrghhh: i dont quite understand your reply. My question is when will libpng-1.4 be in the repos?
[18:48] <soreau> sporkboy: Apparently they aren't blacklisted correctly
[18:48] <arrrghhh> Slony, you'll have to talk to whoever manages that package for the ubuntu repo's...
[18:48] <Slony> arrrghhh: ok
[18:48] <slashfoo> arrrghhh: sorry... not tg3, it's iwlagn sorry
[18:48] <soreau> brontoeee: Alright, good enough for me. zip -h2 and zip --help were surprisingly unhelpful FWIW
[18:48] <Coolness> ARGH this 10.10 update is taking forever
[18:48] <Cars10> can anyone help with this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/519298/
[18:48] <chickenjoymanok> open it from the applications rammy and and right click the iconf  add to pane
[18:49] <slashfoo> LOL I cant help saying arrrghhh out loud every time I see that mentioned in the channel
[18:49] <she_dyed> slashfoo: i gave a magic bullet, try it once, if it didn't work, change it back, no pain no gain.
[18:49] <sporkboy> soreau, they're in secondary files. should i put them directly in blaxklist.conf?
[18:49] <rammyIRC> i dont see network manager in the application
[18:49] <Coolness> i wish i had that intel core i7 @ 3.4ghz + 6 with 12mb L3 cache and Intel Hyper Treading and Intel Turbo boost
[18:49] <Diverdude> Is Ctrl + C Ctrl + Z a global shortcut for minimizing all windows?
[18:50] <Coolness> No
[18:50] <arrrghhh> !ot | Coolness
[18:50] <Coolness> i dont think so
[18:50] <rammyIRC> ?
[18:50] <xCruJonesx> slashfoo, hahaha me too!
[18:50] <Coolness> Okay sorry ubottu
[18:50] <slashfoo> she_dyed: I don't see why I should kill part of my hardware just for that, there MUST be another way around this
[18:50] <hopeless8009> how stable is Ubuntu netbook remix
[18:50] <Prabz> arrrghhh okay.. but that's the official kubuntu  key http://<IP_ADDRESS>:11371/pks/lookup?search=8AC93F7A
[18:50] <rammyIRC> why dont i see the network manager in the applications
[18:50] <rammyIRC> ?
[18:51] <guntbert> Cars10: what did you try to do?
[18:51] <Coolness> rammyIRC, its in system -> perfences
[18:51] <she_dyed> slashfoo: interfaces are stored usually in /etc/networking, take a look see at  if* entries in there
[18:51] <jabalsad> hey guys, any idea why my awn installation doesn't contain the digital clock applet?... from what i can see it should be included in the awn-applets-c-core package but its not
[18:51] <rammyIRC> hmmm i dont see their either
[18:51] <soreau> sporkboy: You should avoid typo's for one thing..
[18:51] <Cars10> gunbert: i tried to install the guestadds for my server
[18:52] <soreau> brontoeee: Thanks, seems to work fine.
[18:52] <Coolness> rammyIRC, i see its System -> perfrences -> Network Connections
[18:52] <cowboysaif> hey guys,, any chance i can run mac iso in vbox with 2 gb ram nd 3 ghz dual core ?
[18:52] <guntbert> !tab | Cars10
[18:52] <sporkboy> soreau, sorry.. doing this from my phone.
[18:52] <Coolness> rammyIRC, or just click on the network icon on the top right corner
[18:52] <Cars10> sorry about the name
[18:52] <rammyIRC> Coolness : i see its only network connections.... but i want network manager
[18:52] <guntbert> Cars10: are you talking about virtual box? please join #vbox
[18:53] <Coolness> Network manager is a application you need to download i think?
[18:53] <hopeless8009> is there a IRC channel for Ubuntu netbook remix
[18:53] <rammyIRC> Coolness: i removed the network manager application icon from the top right corner
[18:53] <shiftingcontrol> does any one  tried to install android scripting environment in ubuntu?i m unable to open .hg file
[18:53] <Cars10> guntbert: is this for installing on ubuntu?
[18:53] <Coolness> There's a network tools in system -> administration
[18:54] <Coolness> rammyIRC, you can place it back by right click, add to panel
[18:54] <guntbert> Cars10: #vbox is the support channel for virtual box - I'm there too
[18:54] <xangua> rammyIRC: alt+f2> nm-applet >enter
[18:54] <sporkboy> rammyirc, nm-applet &
[18:54] <schwaggg> im having problems installiong the drivers for my intel 82845g graphics card, can someone help please
[18:54] <she_dyed> slashfoo: its no different from changing a bios setting to 'boot first from CD', in this case to overcomee a software application problem
[18:54] <Cars10> guntbert: yeah but is it generaly vbox or vbox on ubuntu?
[18:54] <brontoeee> soreau: it did not on my test actually, fails with international chars
[18:55] <she_dyed> slashfoo: and you can switch it back on
[18:55] <omh> schwaggg: which drivers do you try to install?
[18:55] <Coolness> schwaggg, i dont think there are drivers for intergrated "cards"
[18:55] <Coolness> correct me if im wrong
[18:55] <rammyIRC> when i run the application with alt+f2
[18:55] <slashfoo> she_dyed:  I think I found a lead...
[18:55] <Prabz> arrrghhh:
[18:55] <kl0x>
[18:55] <guntbert> Cars10: what are you afraid of? I won't go into vbox details here anyway
[18:55] <Prabz> arrrghhh: how to get the key?
[18:55] <rammyIRC> nm-applet doenst work
[18:56] <schwaggg> well they seem to work, the drivers that are installed, i can play dx through wine, but native gl support freezes
[18:56] <slashfoo> she_dyed: on /var/log/messages I see "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready"
[18:56] <kl0x> how come i can't restore my settings in thunderbird?
[18:56] <slashfoo> she_dyed but I have to leave now
[18:56] <schwaggg> im wondering if i should use a different driver, but the only one i can find is through git, and i cant seem to figure out how to install it
[18:56] <she_dyed> slashfoo: ok man something prevented it from coming up
[18:56] <she_dyed> slashfoo: take care
[18:56] <Rob235> who moves the window buttons back to the right?
[18:56] <toomanymirrors> hey, I just installed the netbook edition but after the first update I'm back in the default gnome setup? How do I get the netbook UI back?
[18:57]  * she_dyed looks around
[18:57] <kl0x> rob235 gconf
[18:57] <slashfoo> she_dyed I'll report back when I fix it, I think it's a problem with wpa_supplicant as per some stuff I saw on a google search, I'll keep digging thanks for the help, you too arrrghhh
[18:57] <Rob235> nah i dont want to, not yet at least, just wondering how many people do it
[18:57] <brontoeee> toomanymirrors, login screen should give you the option to select that
[18:57] <kl0x> I've done it
[18:57] <she_dyed> slashfoo: k man o/
[18:57] <prabhu> hi i want command to updated kernel iam using ubuntu 10.04
[18:57] <sporkboy> ok. square one... broadcom wireless not working, sta driver activated but not in use, wl and b43 are loaded
[18:58] <omh> schwaggg: hmm... compiling your own driver is probably quite complicated. you can try to enable the xorg-edgers ppa: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[18:58] <gridbag> I want "unalias ls grep" in my .bashrc .   How do I get that to not complain when the alias doesn't exist?
[18:58] <hopeless8009> witch is better 10.10 or 10.4
[18:58] <toomanymirrors> brontoeee: oh? why did it change the default?
[18:58] <happyface> hopeless8009: 10.4 doesn't exist
[18:58] <gridbag> I am not a witch.
[18:58] <brontoeee> toomanymirrors, no idea
[18:58] <prabhu> hi i want command to updated kernel iam using ubuntu 10.04
[18:59] <kl0x> can anyone helping me solving my problem with restoring the information in thunderbird
[18:59] <hopeless8009> happyface im not sure what you mean im running it right now
[18:59] <kl0x> ?
[18:59] <blakkheim> prabhu: sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude -y full-upgrade
[18:59] <happyface> hopeless8009: you're probably running 10.04
[18:59] <Rob235> right now i miss 10.04 cause i had everything set up perfectly
[18:59] <amarcolino> prabhu, you mean linux-headers-`uname -r` or aptitude safe-upgrade
[18:59] <Rob235> i dont know if i should use my home folder or synaptic program list in 10.10
[18:59] <Rob235> or start fresh
[18:59] <hopeless8009> happyface: yes thats what it is
[18:59] <happyface> prabhu: apt-get upgrade should update you to the latest stable kernel automatically
[18:59] <hopeless8009> happyface, Lacade
[18:59] <Guest81737> hi!, how Can I change the background in the diferents desktops? _ I use Compiz
[19:00] <schwaggg> omh can i im you?
[19:00] <happyface> hopeless8009: well usually newer versions are better, so I'd say 10.10
[19:00] <brontoeee> 10.04 is marked as LTS, whatever that means
[19:00] <hopeless8009> happyface, what does 10.10 have that 10.04 doesn't
[19:00] <prabhu> amarcolino: some error occur  in openvas-server so i want to update
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> !lts
[19:00] <hopeless8009> happyface, i thought 10.04 would be better because its LTS
[19:01] <happyface> hopeless8009: you could say 10.04 is more stable
[19:01] <hopeless8009> happyface, ok what do you think about netbook remix
[19:01] <amarcolino> prabhu, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade, however, you may want to look into those errors as it might mean you're missing something
[19:01] <happyface> hopeless8009: sorry, never tried it
[19:02] <amarcolino> hopeless8009, it is better, however, are you? (simple joke)
[19:02] <hopeless8009> happyface, im about ready to test it and im trying to see what people think about it.
[19:02] <bemis> is 'enna' completely unsupported on maverick?
[19:02] <happyface> hopeless8009: I don't have a netbook so can't say anything about that, but I'm sure it's a nice OS
[19:02] <Dr_Willis> !info enna
[19:02] <kl0x> hopeless8009: I gotta say i liked it but I saw no really practical use
[19:02] <Dr_Willis> bemis:  its supported enough to be in the package listings at least. :)
[19:03] <brontoeee> hopeless8009, screen size? i prefer normal gnome on my 12" netbook
[19:03] <bemis> Dr_Willis, it is - just doesn't install
[19:03] <hopeless8009> amarocolino, do you know anything about netbook remix
[19:03] <prabhu> amarcolino:but the same error encountered when upgrading
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> bemis:  oh? never tried it.. lets try now..
[19:03] <brontoeee> hopeless8009, did not try unity thought
[19:03] <bemis> there was a bug from the alpha describing the error i'm getting, but it's listed as fixed
[19:03] <amarcolino> prabhu, i wont know nothing unless you state the error I just did what you asked
[19:04] <hopeless8009> Brontoeee, well if you had to rate it on a scale of 1 to 10 what would you give it
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> bemis:  not installing here either.. lots of interesting errors about missing packages.
[19:05] <bemis> yeah
[19:05] <etheretic1> Are there any benefits to using ext4 instead of ext3 on external usb hard disks?
[19:05] <brontoeee> hopeless8009, the idea is good imho, but did not catch on me, so i dont know
[19:05] <zenwryly> I'd like to transfer a windows installation from it's own disk, /dev/hda, where it's the only partition to a single partition on my /dev/sda, /dev/sda3.  How do I transfer the necessary Windows boot sector stuff?  I'm assuming it's on the MBR of /dev/hda and that I need to move it somehow to /dev/sda3 in order for grub to be able to chainload.
[19:05] <hopeless8009> brontoeee, did it seam to preform well
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> bemis:  moovidia is a similer type program. xbmc wasent working when i tried it from a PPA earlier today
[19:06] <brontoeee> hopeless8009, why dont you try exactly? you can always install classical gnome later
[19:06] <bemis> Dr_Willis, yeah - was looking at moovidia - thanks
[19:06] <BigWookie> ;_; Anyone an idea how to fix apt which i hanging at Building Dependency Tree ( 50% )
[19:06] <hopeless8009> brontoeee, what is exactly
[19:06] <bemis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/enna/+bug/623100
[19:07] <brontoeee> hopeless8009, why dont you try IT exactly?
[19:07] <amarcolino> just installed lamp stack using tasksel however pages from my comp are being downloaded instead, is this a known bug and is their a fix?
[19:08] <hopeless8009> brontoeee, im going to try it Ubuntu remix. i'm downlaoding it now. im just trying to get info on it befor the install
[19:08] <rubiks> wen my ubuntu starts that sound is not being played.
[19:08] <AbhiJit> amarcolino, you have to put the web pages in /var/www directory and access from browser http:/localhost/index.html
[19:08] <rubiks> F1 F1
[19:08] <AbhiJit> amarcolino, http://localhost/index.html
[19:09] <amarcolino> AbhiJit, I have, just cleared the cache in chrome now all I get is a blank page
[19:09] <brontoeee> hopeless8009, i think it depends a lot on the screen size, 12" is to big for it
[19:09] <AbhiJit> amarcolino, ask in #ubuntu-server or #httpd
[19:10] <ron_> anyone wana sell me a laptop
[19:10] <amarcolino> AbhiJit, will do as last resort
[19:10] <ron_> heh
[19:10] <kl0x> I cannot import settings in my thunderbird
[19:11] <AbhiJit> amarcolino, ok
[19:11] <kpoman> hello guys
[19:11] <methril> hello
[19:11] <kpoman> is there any simple command to redownload and reinstall a package ?
[19:12] <kpoman> becuase I got a corrupted ubuntu 10.10 (not enough file space on the harddrive)
[19:12] <kpoman> methril: do you have an idea ?
[19:13] <Pastaman> hey guys
[19:13] <AbhiJit> kpoman, you wanted to download a package but dont want to store it in harddisk? and withought storing only install it?
[19:13] <Pastaman> i got a REALLY simple question
[19:13] <Pastaman> im a total noob to linux so Im not doing too badly so far... can anyone help?
[19:13] <kpoman> no. I did a do-release-upgrade and it failed with not enough space on filesystem, so I got a corrupt 10.10
[19:14] <aeon-ltd> !ask | Pastaman
[19:14] <strav> He. Here's a simple enough question: I wish to give a specific group write access to a vfat drive. what options should I provide to mount? I tried mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt -o umask=777,gid=my_group_id or gid=my_group_name, nothing worked so far. Anyone can help with this?
[19:14] <Pastaman> ok
[19:14] <Pastaman> I have an HP QUAD port NIC connected to an openfiler Linux installation... I need to get teh MAC address of the card so I can manually edit the eth scripts
[19:14] <methril> kpoman, but you are able to boot the system?
[19:14] <Pastaman> how can I do this???
[19:15] <Pastaman> I can use LSPCI to get the device listing.. but I need the MAC
[19:15] <hopeless8009> brontoeee, its an accer one
[19:15] <kpoman> methril: yep, it boots, but lot of stuff is broken
[19:15] <she_dyed> Pastaman: ifconfig?
[19:15] <cdavis> Are there any tools, browser plugins that help answer questions on Launchpad?
[19:15] <hopeless8009> ron_, you interested in a netbook
[19:15] <aeon-ltd> Pastaman: if its your machine, doesn't 'ifconfig' show it?
[19:15] <Pastaman> yeah but that just lists the interfaces that are Up
[19:15] <Pastaman> so doesnt come up...
[19:16] <methril> kpoman, then fight with apt-get cleaning and installing package by package (if you are out of space is the better)
[19:16] <Pastaman> jsut the onboard eth0 comes up under ifconfig
[19:16] <ron_> nah need a 1gb video
[19:16] <cousteau> is there a metapackage that installs the _basic_ things to have a running ubuntu desktop? like ubuntu-desktop, but without the recommends
[19:16] <cousteau> or, at least, only with the mandatory recommends
[19:16] <LjL> cousteau: uh... install ubuntu-desktop without the recommends then?
[19:16] <Pastaman> i need the HWADDR of the NICS
[19:16] <LjL> cousteau: mandatory recommends are called dependencies
[19:17] <Shinoda> hey, all
[19:17] <Shinoda> would anyone know why ubuntu immediately reboots my pc whenever i tell it to suspend or hibernate? it's rly instantaneous, as if i pushed the reset button
[19:17] <kpoman> methril: see, for instance I think libc6 is kinda broken. how do I reinstall it ? in comand line I mean
[19:17] <cousteau> (I meant something like "most important recommends"...)
[19:17] <Shinoda> i've tried just about every solution related to suspension/hibernation problems, but none rly applies to the exact situation i'm experiencing
[19:17] <methril> kpoman, if you have the package downloaded
[19:17] <aeon-ltd> Pastaman: so this is in a NAS, does it have ssh?
[19:17] <CrashX> I am trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 and ubuntu keeps taking space from my data partition to use it instead of use unused space .. partition 1: xp ,,, partition2: Data ... partition3 : unused  ...  Also the image on dialog (allocated user space ) is cut of so I can't tell how much is allocated to ubuntu .
[19:18] <methril> kpoman, dpkg -i --force-all package is the lower
[19:18] <Pastaman> yeah
[19:18] <methril> but if it's really broken
[19:18] <strav> He. Here's a simple enough question: I wish to give a specific group
[19:18] <strav> 	write access to a vfat drive. what options should I provide to mount?
[19:18] <strav> 	I tried mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt -o umask=777,gid=my_group_id or
[19:18] <strav> 	gid=my_group_name, nothing worked so far. Anyone can help with this?
[19:18] <Pastaman> im logged in via SSH right now
[19:18] <FloodBot1> strav: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:18] <FloodBot3> strav: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:18] <cousteau> LjL: the problem with that is that there seems to be a bug or a strange behavior with apt-get when you install a package with --no-install-recommends
[19:18] <FloodBot2> strav: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:18] <methril> you are not going to be able to do anything
[19:18] <aeon-ltd> Pastaman: yet, ifconfig shows only eth0 and lo?
[19:18] <Pastaman> exactly!!!!
[19:18] <kpoman> methril: but it doesnt download. how do I make it download and force install ?
[19:18] <cousteau> LjL: just reported it, btw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/665980
[19:19] <LjL> cousteau: perhaps try doing it with aptitude then (i think the option is --without-recommends, not sure though)
[19:19] <aeon-ltd> Pastaman: ok, then the card maybe sleeping to conserve energy, plug something into the ports and ifconfig, see if the card shows anything then
[19:19] <Pastaman> but the modprobe.conf lists all teh adapters
[19:19] <Pastaman> I have...
[19:19] <Pastaman> all plugged in
[19:19] <methril> kpoman, if it does not download, you have the network unconfigured or the network-manager packages broken
[19:19] <methril> download externally
[19:19] <cousteau> LjL: well, I tried simulating (-s) that, but aptitude somehow seemed to ignore that
[19:20] <methril> (in a folder)
[19:20] <Pastaman> there are no eth1 eth2 eth3 and eth4 script files
[19:20] <cousteau> actually, I used -R
[19:20] <kpoman> methril: apt-get install some_think works
[19:20] <Pastaman> so I need to create them manually, but I need the MAC address to put in them..
[19:20] <woeskwee> quit
[19:20] <woeskwee> leave
[19:20] <woeskwee> #quit
[19:20] <cousteau> woeskwee: with a /
[19:20] <eZet_> Are there any commands/ways to modify .emacs through emacs minubuffer? Or is editing .emacs itself the easiest/best way?
[19:20] <woeskwee> thanks
[19:20] <LjL> cousteau: uhm. well you might use "equivs" to create an ubuntu-desktop-like package without the recommends
[19:21] <methril> apt-get --download-only install
[19:21] <kpoman> methril: btw, I am getting N: Ignoring file 'array-apt-key.asc' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[19:21] <pallgone> eZet_: #emacs will probably help you better
[19:21] <etheretic1> Are there any benefits to using ext4 instead of ext3 on external usb hard disks?
[19:21] <aeon-ltd> Pastaman: i've never used a openfiler system before (or any NAS for that matter), but it may just be system wide settings that duplicate eth0's settings (just guessing here)
[19:21] <Axident> hi guys, Im try ing to make a script to make a launcher for the applications menu. You can see what i made here: http://pastebin.com/4H2EiueA. When i run the script i get an error with string 15.
[19:21] <tomc> hi. just installed maverick. i activated the nvidia-current driver in the restricted drivers manager and now X won't start
[19:21] <cousteau> LjL: that sounds interesting
[19:21] <methril> kpoman, or apt-get --froce-yes install could force
[19:22] <AbhiJit> bye
[19:22] <tomc> in tty1, if i run startx, X crashes with "FATAL: Module nvidia not found"
[19:22] <An_Ony_Moose> is there a way to set the default window manager to gnome-shell rather than mutter, for all users? I've tried messing with gconf but I can only find an uneditable option.
[19:22] <Jordan_U> Axident: escape or quote the ';'s
[19:23] <Axident> Jordan_U: I will try this
[19:23] <untitled> hi, is there a way not to install packages, that are marked {a}?
[19:24] <kpoman> methril: it tells me libc6 is already newest version :(
[19:24] <methril> uhm ...
[19:25] <methril> kpoman, then check if it's in /var/cache/apt/packages
[19:25] <nothingspecial> untitled: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[19:25] <methril> kpoman,  and do a dpkg -i --force-all <package_name>
[19:25] <DragonKeeper> whats the unmount commad ??
[19:25] <Axident> Jordan_U: thank you, the qoute worked.
[19:26] <aeon-ltd> DragonKeeper: umount
[19:26] <Jordan_U> Axident: You're welcome.
[19:26] <untitled> nothingspecial: mm.. I think this is alittle different
[19:27] <nothingspecial> untitled: I don`t understand????
[19:27] <Jordan_U> Axident: What are you trying to do with the find command on line 3?
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[19:30] <elkclone> wooo
[19:30] <JimmyJ> :o
[19:30] <avo> Aw man
[19:30] <avo> That's not the first time, either :/
[19:30] <Ashfire908> I got all excited that someone said my name, only to find it to be spam.
[19:30] <Stava> whats up with that :o
[19:30] <An_Ony_Moose> is there a way to set the default window manager to gnome-shell rather than mutter, for all users? I've tried messing with gconf but I can only find an uneditable option.
[19:30] <Axident> Jordan_U: I find the location of the game. It's done so because so the user can chose a random location for the game.
[19:30] <Axident> Jordan_U: I find the location of the game. It's done so because so the user can chose a random location for the game.
[19:31] <cousteau> you see? the total intelligence remains constant, but the global population keeps increasing!
[19:31] <Milosz> damn
[19:31] <RedSingularity> Ashfire908:  LOL
[19:31] <Milosz> does this mean _everyone_ gets dumber the more people there are, or are only the new people dumber and dumber?
[19:31] <kpoman> methril: do you know of any way to force redownload and reinstallation of packages ?
[19:31] <she_dyed> wheres Ashfire908 been hangin out?
[19:32] <Milosz> kpoman, I don't know with apt or dpkg but you can do it with synaptic
[19:32] <methril> apt-get clean cleans the cache dir (and deletes the downloaded packages)
[19:32] <nothingspecial> untitled: What do you mean by marked {a}
[19:32] <Ashfire908> she_dyed, On an out-of-the-way IRC network.
[19:32] <kpoman> Milosz: my synaptic is broken :(
[19:33] <Jordan_U> Axident: That command does not work the way you think it does.
[19:33] <kpoman> Milosz: btw, what is the command behind the synaptic ?
[19:33] <methril> kpoman, synaptic uses apt-get
[19:33] <methril> kpoman, then do  --download
[19:33] <methril> i've to restart
[19:34] <vigge_sWe> hai
[19:34] <ChogyDan> kpoman: if synaptic is broken, try apt-get and pastebin any error messages
[19:34] <Axident> Jordan_U: It's made as a variable for the echo. Work fine here.
[19:34] <vigge_sWe> tar: world: time stamp 2010-10-24 13:23:31 is<PHONE_NUMBER>96 s in the future <- is that ignoreable?
[19:35] <fnordz> hey all, running meerkat 64.... got this error when trying to install Clementine Music Player ---- Dependency is not satisfiable: libimobiledevice0(>=0.9.7)    any ideas?
[19:35] <she_dyed> vigge_sWe: could affect what you do in the current session
[19:35] <vigge_sWe> hmmm
[19:35] <nothingspecial> untitled: Ok, I`ve got better things to do :)
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> vigge_sWe: is your system time accurate and the right date too?
[19:35] <vigge_sWe> So any reason why you cannot move files across timezones?
[19:35] <vigge_sWe> I live in Sweden but the server is in the US
[19:35] <Axident> Jordan_U: It simply find the bin file used for starting the game
[19:35] <Jordan_U> Axident: Replace the whole thing with this and you'll get the same result: VAR=~/*/bin/hacker-evolution
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> fnordz: you'll need a deb for that
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> !find clemen
[19:36] <kpoman> ChogyDan: is there a synaptic in command line ?
[19:36] <Jordan_U> Axident: The only thing that find is doing the way you're using it is printing the filename you passed to it, which is pointless.
[19:36] <ChogyDan> kpoman: apt-get
[19:37] <Diverdude> Is Ctrl + C Ctrl + Z a global shortcut for minimizing all windows?
[19:37] <fnordz> i have the install deb from the clementine website
[19:37] <indio> Hi. Anyone experienced sound problems (no sound) with Ubuntu latest edition (Maverick Meerkat) in OO.o Impress? Thanks.
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> fnordz: then install that then run: sudo apt-get -f install ,and it will install the player
[19:37] <kfm> what's the easiest way to view a remote desktop of my freshly installed unbuntu 10.10 server?
[19:38] <Axident> Jordan_U: Don't I have to use "find" if I dont want to get an output.
[19:38] <tomc> i activated the nvidia-current restricted driver and now x won't start. help?
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> kfm: server doesn't have x on it by default
[19:38] <dr4c4n_> hi, has anyone experienced all windows crashing, and loss of menu, change of icons to names with only boxes on maverick?
[19:38] <Jordan_U> Axident: "don't want to get an output"?
[19:38] <kai696_> (/media/xrom)
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> kfm: you can ssh and run x based apps if you wish
[19:38] <kai696_> how can I find out my dvd drive  name?
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> kai696_: sudo lshw -C drive
[19:39] <dr4c4n_> btw the mouse still moves and all we can see is the desktop and the icons have changed with the names now replaced by a series of boxes
[19:39] <kfm> I've having a hard time getting vnc to work...when I ssh to the ubuntu machine and then do "vncviewer localhost"  it only shows me an x window of a shell, not the normal desktop
[19:39] <Orfeous> hey!
[19:39] <Axident> Jordan_U: If I don't have to see the location at the screen.
[19:39] <kai696_> reason I ask i am trying to force unmount my CD drive
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | kfm
[19:39] <fnordz> i mean it opens up the ubuntu software center when i double click the deb and gives me that error... i must do this through terminal?
[19:39] <Rewt`> I'm currently running Ubuntu 10.04.1 . When I try to do a do-release-upgrade, I get told it can't find a new version...
[19:39] <kai696_> ActionParsnip : PCI (sysfs)
[19:40] <Jordan_U> Axident: No, that has nothing to do with using or not using find.
, dude, that's off topic.
[19:40] <qorep> what's the best channel if I want help with ubuntu-one?
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> kai696_: cd $HOME ,first. If your pwd is in the mount point then it is 'busy'
[19:40] <Jordan_U> Axident: Replace line 3 with this and you will get *exactly* the same result: VAR=~/*/bin/hacker-evolution
[19:40] <yassine> hi folks
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> kai696_: or try: sudo lshw -C disk
[19:41] <kai696_>  /dev/cdrom <--
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> kai696_: you can use: sudo eject /dev/sr0 ,assuming sr0 is its name, you may have to force umount the disk if the OS still thinks its mounted
[19:41] <kai696_> :) that works perfectly, thanks ActionParsnip
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> Np kai696_
[19:42] <Rewt`> I need some help. Trying to upgrade to 10.10... I'm currently running Ubuntu 10.04.1 . When I try to do a do-release-upgrade, I get told it can't find a new version...
[19:42] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | Rewt`
[19:42] <ron_> okay so i just put a secondary monitor on my laptop running ubuntu but i just have the same screen on both, am i supposed to do something in particular to dual screen?
[19:42] <Rewt`> thanks
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> Rewt`: check the upgrade notes, you may need to change a file from: prompt=lts to prompt=normal
[19:43] <Jordan_U> Rewt`: You're welcome.
[19:44] <disappearedng> Hi I just installed the newest nividia driver and I get a black screen when I boot normally, I try to go into recovery mode to change but then once I boot into recovery mode, my screen turns black again, How do I go in to edit my /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[19:44] <rubiks> whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ?
[19:44] <yassine> anyone of zou guys having mutter segfauling ?
[19:45] <riktking> anyone know how to get sky player to work in ubuntu
[19:45] <riktking> uses silverlight
[19:45] <tomc> disappearedng: i have the same problem
[19:45] <Tre> can someone help me
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> disappearedng: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[19:45] <Ward|> why does my HP pUSB printer not work?
[19:45] <kfm> thanks guys
[19:45] <Ward|> its a multifunctional, a MFC something
[19:45] <yassine> i get this here when i try to start any application in my ubuntu maverick box: Oct 24 20:32:53 suncemoje kernel: [  793.258275] mutter[1988]: segfault at 0 ip 01dfa11c sp bf8a3a00 error 4 in libclutk-0.3.so.0.360.0[1deb000+4e000]
[19:46] <Tre> i want to make my ubuntu faster does anyone knows any software/program that makes it faster ?
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Ward|: try grabbing the latest hplip from the hplip site, mark it as executable and run. It as a user
[19:46] <Ward|> ActionParsnip, ok i'll try
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Tre: ditch compiz and gnome and install lxde + openbox
[19:46] <aeon-ltd> riktking: theres 'moonlight' a free version, not sure how good it is on performance, there is way to get the official one but i don't know of it
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> Tre: set vm.swappiness to 0 in /etc/sysctl.conf
[19:47] <pallgone> Tre: faster in what manner? is it slow?
[19:47] <Axident> Jordan_U: I see the diffrent. It's more simple. Why make make it more difficult than nessasary.
[19:47] <riktking> aeon-ltd, ive got moonlight onit
[19:47] <disappearedng> Just how dangerous is mounting your / to "Try ubuntu without install" and then modifying the /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> Tre: disable ipv6 and use dnsmasq for local dns caching can speed up the web
[19:47] <riktking> aeon-ltd, but it doesnt work
[19:48] <Tre> how can i do that i have a adsl connection
[19:48] <aeon-ltd> riktking: you need the correct package for your browser as well
[19:48] <Tre> ?
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> Tre: disable services you don't use
[19:48] <riktking> aeon-ltd, yeah i installed it from the moonlight website into firefox
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> Tre: there are guides all over
[19:48] <Tre> give me a link
[19:48] <she_dyed> disappearedng: is that a live CD run?
[19:48] <aeon-ltd> Tre: theres no direct way to make it 'faster', its more dependant on the software you use and the hardware you have (though i'd say the software side is more important
[19:48] <grid_> ey
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> Tre: lxde will make your OS use less resources just to show the desktop
[19:49] <aeon-ltd> riktking: go to synaptics and check if there is a later version, it may help
[19:49] <pallgone> ActionParsnip: yeah, but XFCE is better :)
[19:49] <Tre> can t understand you bro
[19:49] <riktking> aeon-ltd, i have installed the new preview version from the moonligh website
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> Tre: not only are you missing manners but my connection is so slow you could find one before I even loaded bing
[19:49] <disappearedng> she_dyed yes
[19:49] <ElNota> pallgone: Only if you have old PC
[19:49] <fnordz> lol, so now i got the program to install but i get a pop up saying To install this package, you need to authenticate... except when you hit the authenticate button, nothing happens
[19:49] <Tre> ahh ok
[19:49] <Tre> bro
[19:49] <Tre> thank you for your help
[19:50] <aeon-ltd> riktking: what does it say when you try to run silverlight apps?
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> pallgone: lxde is a little lighter and just as functional, so id say not. Millions would disagree, millions would agree
[19:50] <she_dyed> disappearedng: it won't remember those changes, and start from scratch next time.
[19:50] <Tre> can you tell me who is the best browser for ubuntu ?
[19:50] <riktking> aeon-ltd, i can run most apps, jus not sky player its most annoying
[19:50] <aeon-ltd> Tre: there is no 'best' just one thats right for you
[19:51] <Tre> i think firefox is cool but he is blocking some webpages i visit
[19:51] <grid_> ey
[19:51] <aeon-ltd> riktking: sounds more like a bug causing problems between moonlight and the sky servers
[19:51] <grid_> i'm looking for a step by step guide to setup samba with ubuntu 10.10, i want a domain controller, with user and group storage on ubuntu from windowsxp, can somebody help me?
[19:51] <Tre> so i can t visit them
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> Tre: np man. The dns helps. Also websearch: sysctl.conf broadband ,the top link will give some settings to add and make the web faster by using ram and different net settings
[19:51] <aeon-ltd> !samba | grid_
[19:51] <grid_> i tried google already
[19:51] <riktking> aeon-ltd, i think its just sky cos of DRM etc
[19:51] <anygivenname> how do I cancel the keyring login ?
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> Tre: firefox is damn slow but if you mess with about:config it can be made better
[19:52] <aeon-ltd> riktking: maybe, but i suppose if you were planning on using propreitry software you should always keep a dualboot
[19:52] <disappearedng> she_dyed: what the hell are you talking about? I mounted my harddisk and then went into the that partition's /etc/X11 and changed... I don't understand your logic at all
[19:52] <pallgone> anygivenname: for wireless?
[19:52] <Tre> yee but
[19:52] <Tre> i will not mess with it because
[19:52] <Tre> i will mess the firefox up
[19:52] <aeon-ltd> !enter | Tre
[19:52] <pallgone> chromium-browser is quite nice...
[19:52] <anygivenname> pallgone: seems like it is related to wireless
[19:53] <Ward|> ActionParsnip, run hplip as superuser?
[19:53] <ron_> how do i enable this second monitor to expand my desktop?  monitor settings arent helping....
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> Tre:there are guides online for playing with the pipelining in the browser. Personally ithingchromium runs circles round it
[19:53] <Tre> i think cromium is not good as firefox
[19:53] <pallgone> anygivenname: edit the wireless connection and make it available to "all users"
[19:53] <anygivenname> it is already
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> Ward|: no as user
[19:53] <DjSynthGoth> chat in english? omg XDDD
[19:53] <Ward|> ActionParsnip, ok
[19:53] <riktking> aeon-ltd, its more of an if i can i will,was wondering if anyone had an idea on how to do it
[19:53] <Tre> vendeta bro
[19:53] <Tre> ?
[19:53] <DjSynthGoth> soy español alguien sabe dónde hay canales en spanish?
[19:53] <Tre> are you from albo ?
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> Ward|: you will be asked for your sudo pass
[19:53] <anygivenname> pallgone: i have already set it so
[19:53] <Ward|> ActionParsnip, yeah i noticed :)
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> Tre:no just hate firefox
[19:53] <aeon-ltd> riktking: ok, sorry i couldn't help, but don;t give up keep asking and good luck :)
[19:54] <anygivenname> pallgone: what other thing could be using keyring login ?
[19:54] <Ward|> ActionParsnip, i jsut asked to make sure since i want this working i had a ton of trouble with it
[19:54] <aeon-ltd> !es | DjSynthGoth
[19:54] <Tre> i have firefox and google chrome bro and i use them both
[19:54] <DjSynthGoth> ubottu thx
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> Ward|: the script tells you if you try ;)
[19:54] <Ward|> ActionParsnip, not all scripts are well-written :p
[19:55] <pallgone> anygivenname: hmm, it's usually wireless, won't know more, sorry
[19:55] <ron_> how do i enable this second monitor to expand my desktop?  monitor settings arent helping....
[19:55] <Tre> is there anyway that i can create free reseleers on internet ??
[19:55] <Tre> ?
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> Ward|: its from HP so you know itsgood. They love linux
[19:55] <Ward|> ActionParsnip, ah i didnt know i got it from sourceforge
[19:56] <ron_> anyone?
[19:56] <anygivenname> pallgone: I start Ubuntu & it logs in automatically as I set it....it connects to the network & everythig works.....only when I try to connect to the Ubuntu machine from another machine that the Ubuntu machine then shows thing Keyring Login small access window in which I have to put in my password so this connection works
[19:57] <brontoeee> how can play a movie with mplayer on 2nd x server window?
[19:57] <sebikul> anygivenname, what ubuntu version are you using?
[19:58] <anygivenname> sebikul: 10.04
[19:58] <curvirostra> ciao
[19:58] <rubiks> whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ??????
[19:58] <rubiks> Whaa???//
[19:58] <rubiks> WhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAA????????
[19:58] <LunaVorax> Hi everyone
[19:59] <sebikul> anygivenname, go to applications, accesories, passwords (or something like that, i have it in spanish) and let me know when you are there
[19:59] <LunaVorax> In terms of ram used, should I use Fluxbox or Openbox if I want a WM that doesn't suck a lot of ram ?
[19:59] <sresu> Kernel Log- vlc[3358]	segfault at 4 ip 00662e26 sp bfc83620 error 4 in libQtDBus.so.4.7.0[61e000+7a000] Anything wrong?
[19:59] <anygivenname> sebikul: ok there
[19:59] <ZykoticK9> LunaVorax, i doubt there is "much" difference between any of the *box WMs
[20:00] <Somelauw> Is there a beatiful way to show my partitions and what they are used for (gnome)?
[20:00] <sebikul> anygivenname, do a right click on default password deposit and select change password
[20:00] <LunaVorax> That's what I was thinking also ZykoticK9 thanks
[20:00] <aeon-ltd> Somelauw: gparted?
[20:00] <LunaVorax> Does anyone here use dwm ?
[20:00] <anygivenname> sebikul: ok then
[20:01] <anygivenname> sebikul: keep it blank ?
[20:01] <nobarking> hey where should i store my executables after i've compiled from source? i usually put them in ~/bin with reference in .bashrc is this a good directory to store them in?
[20:01] <aeon-ltd> LunaVorax: yeah
[20:01] <sebikul> anygivenname, in old password enter your normal root pass, in new password leave it blank. READ CAREFULLY THE MESSAGE and continue
[20:01] <Tre> can someone tell me a rar extrator for ubuntu ?
[20:01] <anygivenname> sebikul: if I do so then my system will be insecured
[20:01] <aeon-ltd> Tre: unrar
[20:02] <sresu> Does it mean some bug in vlc / QTdbus def not critical?
[20:02] <sebikul> anygivenname, not your system, just the passwords stored under that deposit
[20:02] <aeon-ltd> Tre: its command line though
[20:02] <ZykoticK9> nobarking, /usr/local/bin would be preferred to just /bin (which you should consider leaving for only "system" binaries)
[20:02] <Tre> sudo apt-get install unrar
[20:02] <Tre> thank you
[20:02] <sebikul> they wont be encrypted, but they would still need your login password
[20:02] <ZykoticK9> nobarking, sorry - you said ~/bin - my bad
[20:03] <Suttrarat> Hey, I'm new to Ubuntu, coming over from WinXP, what's the best AV program for me to start using? I have asked on #antivirus but it's a bit quiet
[20:03] <Tre> you don t need antivirus
[20:03] <ZykoticK9> !virus | Suttrarat
[20:03] <Tre> on ubuntu bro
[20:03] <LunaVorax> Suttrarat, ClamAV, but you don't need AV
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> Suttrarat: there is no single best app for anything
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> Suttrarat: there is no single best anything ever
[20:03] <aeon-ltd> StrangeCharm: you don't neccessarily need a AV but one i nice (maybe clamAV) but a firewall is crucial to security
[20:04] <sresu> Suttrarat: And no defrag things
[20:04] <sresu> !defrag
[20:04] <aeon-ltd> LunaVorax: why do you wanna know if anyone uses dwm?
[20:04] <anygivenname> sebikul: under that deposit...there is vino.local, hotmail, Desktop Couch User Authentication, gmail, Desktop Couch User Authentication, another form of gmail
[20:04] <LunaVorax> aeon-ltd, I wanted to know if it was complex to learn for a noob and how much ram it was sucking
[20:04] <aeon-ltd> StrangeCharm: sorry wrong person
[20:05] <Suttrarat> Thanks guys, I will be using WINE a bit so I was thinking AV might be necessary,
[20:05] <nobarking> ZykoticK9: what persmissions should i set in /usr/local/bin?
[20:05] <nobarking> permissions*
[20:05] <LunaVorax> I'm on a 128ram computer, I need to tweak my ubuntu install correctly
[20:05] <Axident> Jordan_U: I tryed to use the variable without the find as you suggested. Unfortunately it's only give me the name for the bin file not the complete path to the bin file as I have to use.
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> LunaVorax: I suggest openbox on 128mb ram
[20:05] <ZykoticK9> nobarking, i can't really answer that...  depends...
[20:05] <sebikul> anygivenname, that are passwords stored by other applications. you should only leave the password blank if you think you are still safe (a desktop pc for example)
[20:06] <Ward|> ActionParsnip, the HP printed a testpage perfectly but i still cannot print anything
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> LunaVorax: or for supreme lightness (but not pretty at all) flwm
[20:06] <Jordan_U> Axident: Can you pastebin the current script?
[20:06] <aeon-ltd> LunaVorax: ok, its not that comlpex to get it running, but maintain it is hard, everytime you want to change something it require recompiling dwm, also i'm using 53mb ram - 2 terminals (urxvt one in irssi and htop) with dwm
[20:06] <LunaVorax> ActionParsnip, I would prefer to use Fluxbox since the menu is automatic while it's not on Openbox
[20:06] <anygivenname> sebikul: so it does not delete the Ubuntu login password ?
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Ward|: what apps have you tried?
[20:06] <Axident> Jordan_U:
[20:06] <BEAST_MODE> oR
[20:06] <Axident> Jordan_U: yes
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> LunaVorax: another good choice :)
[20:06] <sebikul> anygivenname, no, that are 2 different things
[20:06] <Ward|> ActionParsnip, gedit and firefox
[20:06] <anygivenname> sebikul: can I delete the whole deposit ?
[20:06] <LunaVorax> Ok then ActionParsnip :)
[20:07] <sebikul> you will still conserve your login password, but you wont be asked to enter it twice
[20:07] <Guest55213> hey how can wipe my sdd drive through terminal? (format as FAT32)
[20:07] <Axident> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/a2CP3BC3
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Ward|: tried openoffice? Do you get anyonscreen info?
[20:07] <sebikul> anygivenname, you can delete it, but the system will create it again
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Guest55213: look at mk2fs.vfat
[20:07] <LunaVorax> Yeah I know about it aeon-ltd
[20:07] <Ward|> ActionParsnip, yeah i get the crapmessages
[20:07] <Kadgar> Has anyone ever installed ubuntu 10.10 on a external hard drive with a macbook pro 4.1? I have tried so many different things to get this to work and I know am close to believing it isn't possible...
[20:08] <LunaVorax> Kadgar, I've done that once
[20:08] <anygivenname> sebikul: can I delete the whole deposit ?
[20:08] <aeon-ltd> LunaVorax: the ram indications aren't fair though, i'm on arch linux not ubuntu currently
[20:08] <sebikul> anygivenname, you can delete it, but the system will create it again
[20:08] <LunaVorax> Kadgar, but I had to boot everytume with the SuperGrubDisk
[20:08] <Jibadeeha> wish windowmaker would pick up again
[20:08] <Kadgar> hmm...
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> Ward|: if you look in the queue are the jobs there?
[20:08] <Jordan_U> Axident: That should give you the full path. What makes you think it isn't?
[20:08] <anygivenname> sebikul: ok now...password is blank...will it remain so after restart Ubuntu ?
[20:08] <LunaVorax> Oh ok aeon-ltd. Funny it is, I've seem a lot of dwm user be actually ArchLinux users
[20:09] <Kadgar> could you tell me exactly what you did? I really want to get this to work.
[20:09] <sebikul> anygivenname, yeah, thats the point of leaving it blank, to not be asked to enter the deposit's password to unlock it and be able to retrive the wifi pass
[20:09] <Axident> after creation of the desktop file the entry only have the bin file name.
[20:10] <LunaVorax> Kadgar, just plug in your external HDD, boot Ubuntu CD, Install Ubuntu on external HDD and then boot the SuperGrubDisk while the HDD is plugged in everytime you turn on your Macbook and want to boot from the hdd
[20:10] <aeon-ltd> LunaVorax: heh true, its a bit easier to maintain than in ubuntu, given arch's nature of having to compile almost every unpopular package
[20:10] <Axident> Jordan_U: after creation of the desktop file the entry only have the bin file name.
[20:10] <anygivenname> sebikul: thanks...will restart to test
[20:10] <Ward|> ActionParsnip, yeah, but i will stop wasting time and accept that linux cannot print
[20:10] <sebikul> anygivenname, no problem ;)
[20:10] <Ward|> ActionParsnip, i'm used to stuff that randomly breaks since i started using linux
[20:10] <Kadgar> no special settings then except using SuperGrubDisk???
[20:10] <LunaVorax> I'll give another try to Arch the day I'l be smart and less lazy aeon-ltd ;)
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> Ward|: tried a reboot after installing the driver?
[20:10] <Ward|> ActionParsnip, thanks for the help anyway
[20:10] <Ward|> ActionParsnip, no then i might aswell boot windows and print it there
[20:10] <Jordan_U> Kadgar: What problem are you having / what are you trying to do?
[20:11] <Alanatiir> Is there a way for me to connect my Lucid Lynx PC to a Windows 7 network so I'm visible (whether or not I have file sharing enabled)?
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Ward|: i'd submit a bug too
[20:11] <Ward|> since 2006 i had no problems printing
[20:11] <Kadgar> I am trying to install ubuntu 10.10 on a external hard drive with mac book pro. It seems to install correctly just can't detect the hard drive as bootable or something.
[20:11] <Ward|> ActionParsnip, nah i jsut use another printer
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Alanatiir: if you are in the same subnet you will be visible
[20:12] <LunaVorax> No Kadgar, just be sure to check this page for some tweaks AFTER the install if you encounter some problems https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro4-1/Lucid
[20:12] <tiimo> hi
[20:12] <Alanatiir> ActionParsnip: How do I get into the "same subnet"?
[20:12] <LunaVorax> Btw Kadgar, I'm currently on Ubuntu on a MBP 5,3 and the MBP is hotter than under MacOSX, you'll probably encounter that problem too. That's the way it is unfortunately.
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Alanatiir: your network infastructure will use dhcp so it is already happening
[20:13] <tiimo> can any one here help me with lirc for microsoft mce remote i cant get it to work
[20:13] <Ward|> Alanatiir, on the linux box do ifconfig and check the settigns, on the windows box do ipconfig and check the settings
[20:13] <Alanatiir> ActionParsnip: Well, if it is already happening, then why am I NOT VISIBLE on the network I'm connected to via my wireless card?
[20:13] <Ward|> Alanatiir, and beware subnetMASK is not the same as subnet
[20:13] <Jordan_U> Kadgar: Ahh. Intel mac firmware is buggy and doesn't recognise USB disks as bootable when using the BIOS interface.
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> tiimo: ask in ##windows. This is ubuntu support only
[20:13] <cdavis> Do you use Esc to get to the grub menu to choose a different kernel?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> tiimo: oh wait
[20:14] <Ward|> ActionParsnip, its a MS remote, used on linux i think
[20:14] <Ward|> lol
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> tiimo: is the remote a remote but made by ms?
[20:14] <Jordan_U> cdavis: Hold shift as of Ubuntu 9.10.
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> tiimo: my apologies
[20:14] <Ward|> lirc = linux, winlirc = windows :) (normally)
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> tiimo: if you run in a terminal: xev ,and press the buttons, do they make events?
[20:15] <cdavis> Jordan_U: thanks
[20:15] <Kadgar> hmm, I thinking maybe i should just install ubuntu on my internal using bootcamp, I just don't like everything to install automatically to it
[20:15] <Jordan_U> cdavis: You're welcome.
[20:15] <Alanatiir> I see no mention of 'subnet' in 'ifconfig'
[20:15] <thecdggseries> is there a channel of Slax?
[20:15] <tiimo> ahah im using it in ubuntu
[20:16] <Draggin> Good evening! I'm using gwget in Ubuntu, but something went wrong with my window manager and I had to restart GDM. Now, wget is still running in the background, downloading my file, but gwget seems to have become disconnected from the process and is unaware of it. How can I bring the wget process to the foreground (even in terminal) so I can see how far it is and whether it is, in fact, making progress?
[20:16] <indio> Hi. Anyone experienced sound problems (no sound) with Ubuntu latest edition (Maverick Meerkat) in OO.o Impress? Thanks.
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Alanatiir: is the ubuntu system connected to the same router as the windows pcs?
[20:16] <Alanatiir> ActionParsnip: Yes
[20:16] <LunaVorax> Kadgar, good thing also. That's what I'm doing. I recommend you to keep MacOSX anyway since you can have some hardware that doesn't work yet with Ubuntu (ex/ HD webcams and camcorders)
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Draggin: kill the process
[20:16] <lime> ActionParsnip, That won't help him. . .
[20:16] <Draggin> ActionParsnip - wouldn't that corrupt my download?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Alanatiir: then its fine and the ubuntu box is visible
[20:17] <Alanatiir> ActionParsnip: All are connected (by wired for one pc, wireless to the same access point for the other machines).  Mine is not part of the network, but everyone else's is.
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Draggin: possibly but you can restart the download right?
[20:17] <Alanatiir> ActionParsnip: But that's it, right there.  I am NOT VISIBLE. :(
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> lime: help who,  I'm talking to about 4 people here...
[20:17] <Alanatiir> ActionParsnip: And right now two of the people in the household, my GF and her stepfather are pissed with me about it.
[20:17] <Guest55213> is this bad :I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00000000
[20:17] <Jordan_U> Kadgar: You can work around the problem by using grub-efi instead of grub-pc, but that presents some additional problems as many linux graphics drivers don't work when booted via EFI. And of course you can use Super GRUB2 Disk to boot from CD as a work around as you already know.
[20:17] <Draggin> ActionParsnip - I have limited bandwidth and it's larger than a GB - really don't want to (nor can I afford to) restart it...
[20:18] <lime> Draggin, You can watch the file output
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Alanatiir: ok then if you un: ifconfig ,you will see your ip. Probably 192.168.0.x
[20:18] <Karen_m> why with 10.10, when you do.. ~ka<tab> it does not auto-complete anymore?
[20:18] <lime> Draggin, See if it grows
[20:18] <lime> Draggin, The process will stop by itself when it's finished
[20:18] <Draggin> lime - yes, that I've done, which is why I know it's still working.  I'd very much like to see how far along it is and what speed it's running at though...
[20:18] <cousteau> is it possible to make apt-get to automatically autoremove?
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Draggin: hmm i'd leave it a while and see if the process ends, then md5 test the file to amake sure its not damaged
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> cousteau: could make a script ;)
[20:19] <lime> Draggin, Unfortunately there is no easy way to redirect the output of the process
[20:19] <lime> gwget probably popen's the process
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Alanatiir: if you can ping the ubuntu server by ip, you are ok
[20:19] <cousteau> Karen_m: strange... you're right
[20:19] <Draggin> lime - does that imply that there is a way though...? :)
[20:20] <cousteau> Karen_m: it does work, anyway
[20:20] <Draggin> even though difficult...?
[20:20] <lime> Draggin, that depends on how gwget spawned the process
[20:20] <Karen_m> cousteau, you have to type in the full name before it will start working
[20:20] <Kadgar> Thanks, I just have one more question. If I install ubuntu on my internal is there a way to set the default install drive to my external for all my ubuntu programs. Installing programs seems to always default to the main hard drive and it is annoying finding ways to install them on a different drive.
[20:20] <Draggin> lime - sorry, you lost me there...
[20:20] <cousteau> Karen_m: no, wait... `cd ~us` doesn't autocomplete to /home/user, but `~us` does autocomplete to ~user
[20:21] <cousteau> ...and it worked before, never mind
[20:21] <thecdggseries> is there a channel of Slackware??
[20:21] <Draggin> lime - although - just checked the original filesize and it looks like it's only about 200MB from being done.  I think I'll just wait and then run an md5 to see if it worked properly
[20:21] <Guest55213> my disk identifer is 0x00000000 is that okay? :|
[20:21] <Karen_m> cousteau,  i used to be able to do;  cd ~ka<tab>/dow<tab> and it would fill in the path
[20:21] <cousteau> probably #slackware... does your irc client have a channel search?
[20:21] <Ward|> nice the network printing is broken too
[20:22]  * Ward| kicks ubuntu off the system
[20:22] <AndrewMC> thecdggseries: ##slackware
[20:22] <jpcanaverde> Hello.
[20:22] <cousteau> Karen_m: well, if you are the only user you can still do   cd ~/dow<tab>
[20:22] <Axident> Jordan_U: I have made this now. http://pastebin.com/L38wQPsd. This work. I found that I have mised a /. and added find to the variable again, then the scribt work. Thank you again.
[20:22] <Karen_m> i'm not the only user :(
[20:23] <thecdggseries> AndrewMC, thanks
[20:23] <lime> Draggin, do that... According to source code it uses named pipes
[20:23] <jpcanaverde> Can someone help me with Brasero and a DVD+R DL?
[20:23] <lime> lime, So probably you have a named pipe somehere, you can get output from if you want
[20:23] <lime> Draggin,  So probably you have a named pipe somehere, you can get output from if you want
[20:23] <Draggin> lime - gwget uses named pipes?
[20:23] <Draggin> I have no idea how that works though... Where can I read up about that?
[20:24] <Karen_m> cousteau, something did change
[20:24] <cousteau> bash autocompletion
[20:24] <jpcanaverde> I was burning files to a DVD+R DL with Brasero..
[20:24] <lime> Draggin, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Named_pipe
[20:24] <cousteau> maybe you can pick the old bash autocompletion files, which are on /etc/bash_completion.d or something like that
[20:25] <Jordan_U> Kadgar: I assume you also want your user's files to go on the external?
[20:25] <ubuntu_mad> Jordan_U
[20:25] <jpcanaverde> then, right after it started burning, it asked me to eject the disk, because it couldn't eject itself.
[20:25] <jpcanaverde> but I can't eject the disk.
[20:25] <jpcanaverde> and the brasero process doesn't stop...
[20:25] <ubuntu_mad> Jordan_U you available for more bug fixing ;-)
[20:25] <jpcanaverde> like it's still using the disk.
[20:25] <jpcanaverde> but it says it's over and I jyst need to eject manually.
[20:25] <Kadgar> Basically programs that take up a lot of space. Files that can be easily moved I am not as worried about
[20:25] <jpcanaverde> but I can't eject it.
[20:25] <doktoreas> hello everybody..anyone can give me a hand with this error upgarding lucid >maverick ? http://dpaste.com/263198/
[20:26] <jpcanaverde> can someone help me, please?
[20:26] <doktoreas> if seems that can't find the new repository
[20:26] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_mad: What is the problem?
[20:26] <lime> doktoreas, tried aptitude update?
[20:27] <ubuntu_mad>  Jordan_U kernel panic on boot
[20:27] <webBuilder> hello guys I have a video sharing linux box, I love to know what people are uploading prior converting it. I know there is file and mimetype. I was wondering if you guys know a little accurate way of knowing what kind of file people are uploading
[20:27] <basix-> anyone here willing to help me figure out how to get my wireless card working on my Acer Aspire 5100?
[20:27] <webBuilder> thank you in Advance
[20:28] <ubuntu_mad> jpcanaverde have you tried eject via >Place>you disk drive
[20:28] <basix-> I've googled for my laptop wireless help with ubuntu and cannot find any helpful resources
[20:28] <doktoreas> lime yep
[20:28] <brontoeee> webBuilder, possibly mediainfo needs only the headers for certain type of files
[20:28] <tiimo> ? any one at al i hvae mce reciver and can get irw working but the lirc.config lie is not being used
[20:29] <Chillance> does anyone here got a good way to create a graph based on some values?
[20:29] <Jordan_U> Kadgar: If you put the directories needed for programs on the external drive, you'll need the external drive plugged in to be able to boot at all. Given that, it might make sense to just have /boot/ on the internal drive and everything else on the external, or even do a normal install to the external and I can help you make a small partition on your internal that will simply boot the external drive.
[20:29] <tiimo> sry miss typing
[20:29] <webBuilder> brontoeee,  I thank you so much
[20:29] <Chillance> saved as say some kind of csv file or so
[20:29] <webBuilder> I'll work on what you have told me
[20:29] <lime> doktoreas, Have you manually edited your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[20:29] <brontoeee> webBuilder, and maybe ffmpeg can be abused for that as well
[20:30] <webBuilder> brontoeee, what do you mean abused ?
[20:30] <webBuilder> brontoeee, can you expand it little bit
[20:30] <doktoreas> lime, nope
[20:30] <lime> doktoreas, Because archive.canonical.com does not have a multiverse repository
[20:30] <Jordan_U> Kadgar: Whatever you do I'd avoid boot camp unless you're actually going to be installing windows. It's not needed for linux, and converts from "pure" GPT to a hybrid mbr, which is kind of ugly.
[20:30] <webBuilder> brontoeee, I think you meant ffmpeg can tell me what kind of file is it am I correct ?
[20:31] <brontoeee> webBuilder, you need to know if the file, that is only partialy uploade is video file or not?is that right? or only prior to transcoding?
[20:31] <brontoeee> *uploaded
[20:31] <Kadgar> Ok...
[20:31] <webBuilder> brontoeee, you are quite right
[20:31] <lime> doktoreas, Do you have any lines in that file referencing archive.canonical.com?
[20:31] <webBuilder> brontoeee, and I am using actually ffmpeg to convert my files
[20:32] <webBuilder> brontoeee, so in this case what can I do with ffmpeg to find out what the people are uploading
[20:32] <doktoreas> lime, oh yeah, the partneter repositor
[20:32] <doktoreas> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner multiverse
[20:32] <doktoreas> deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner
[20:32] <Kadgar> So, what your saying is that I can make a partition on the internal that contains the /boot and the / be on the external drive and as long as the external drive is plugged in it will boot without need of a cd or anything?
[20:32] <lime> doktoreas, that line with multiverse is the culprit
[20:32] <brontoeee> webBuilder, ffmpeg -i somefile should give you some clues
[20:32] <lime> doktoreas, It will not work
[20:32] <brontoeee> webBuilder, what info do you need exactly?
[20:32] <Jordan_U> Kadgar: Correct.
[20:32] <lime> doktoreas, comment it out by prefixing the line with #
[20:32] <doktoreas> lime, thx! I0l try to comment it
[20:33] <brontoeee> webBuilder, and why?
[20:33] <basix-> i need help with my wireless card on my acer aspire 5100, linux will not recognize it at all
[20:33] <webBuilder> brontoeee, when the people start uploading I would love to know what they trying to upload is a video file, if it is video file, then let them upload it then use ffmpeg to convert it to *flv
[20:33] <Kadgar> Thank you for the information! That is probably my best bet then.
[20:33] <webBuilder> brontoeee, if not ignore their upload and send them a message
[20:34] <Jordan_U> Kadgar: You're welcome.
[20:34] <lime> doktoreas, You can see which repos are available by having a peek at http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release
[20:34] <indrit> Hi! Yesterday I was given https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOneAOD250?action=show&redirect=AspireOne/AOD250#Fixing about a problem with microphone and Skype in Ubuntu Netbook edition, but it didn't came up succesful. Any idea?
[20:34] <lime> doktoreas, Probably you wanted "partner" instead of "multiverse"
[20:34] <doktoreas> lime, now it's ok..but that repository worked for lucid
[20:34] <basix-> does ubuntu support wireless networking?
[20:34] <varlon> hi, have a problem around make connection to Ad-Hoc network with encription from ubuntu to windows machine. Without encription all working fine, wpasupplicant package installed, other devices like phone connected to windows machine without any problem
[20:34] <varlon> what must I see?
[20:34] <Jordan_U> basix-: Yes.
[20:34] <basix-> or should i just stick with windows if i want my wireless adapter to work?
[20:34] <lime> doktoreas, the archive.canonical.com repo is for 3rd party binaries like flash etc
[20:34] <doktoreas> ah ok..thx for your help
[20:35] <basix-> Jordan_U, it wont work on my aspire 5100
[20:35] <ron_> can anyone help me with dual monitor support?
[20:35] <brontoeee> webBuilder, right, hold on
[20:35] <ubuntu_mad> Jordan_U http://pastebin.com/RW4G2S9C
[20:35] <webBuilder> thank you brontoeee I'll be waiting
[20:35] <basix-> i am out of troubleshooting ideas
[20:35] <lime> doktoreas, If it woked for lucid lynx, they probably changed the layout a bit in maverick
[20:35] <Jordan_U> basix-: Not all wireless cards are supported.
[20:36] <basix-> so how do i know which ones are?
[20:36] <Jordan_U> !hardware | basix-
[20:36] <bwc> Œ
[20:36] <basix-> thx
[20:36] <Jordan_U> basix-: You're welcome.
[20:37] <brontoeee> webBuilder, check http://www.webrelatedstuff.com/blog/video-upload-and-conversion-wi , section uploadVideo.php(cont')
[20:37] <basix-> how can i find out what card i have in the laptop?
[20:37] <basix-> is there a device manager on ubuntu?
[20:37] <doktoreas> lime, An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
[20:37] <doktoreas> E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
[20:37] <doktoreas> caused by held packages.
[20:37] <indrit> Does anyone uses Netbook edition?
[20:37] <webBuilder> brontoeee, will try never used php but I think I should strougle a bit and find out
[20:37] <webBuilder> thank you brontoeee
[20:37] <ron_> can anyone help me with dual monitor support?
[20:37] <basix-> haha nvm i see it on the website ;)
[20:37] <|GaiJin|> after I install the repo nvidia drivers, whenever I shutdown, restart or whatever leaving X the text from the "ubuntu loading screen" (lack of better word) has changed resolution, any tip on how to fix this...
[20:38] <brontoeee> webBuilder, however, it is possible to fake from the user side a lot of info, so there were HD mp4 files on youtube a long ago
[20:38] <Jordan_U> basix-: The first thing to try is to connect to the internet via ethernet then see if System > Administraton > Hardware Drivers finds any drivers to install for your card.
[20:38] <varlon> any ideas about connection problem to ad-hoc network with encription?
[20:38] <basix-> i believe i tried that, i'm going to run through it again and see what i can do
[20:38] <bfinch> hello
[20:38] <basix-> thanks for your help Jordan_U
[20:38] <webBuilder> so brontoeee what is your suggestion ?
[20:39] <webBuilder> brontoeee, what approach should I take? madiainfo, file, mimetype, or ffmpeg?
[20:39] <Jordan_U> basix-: You're welcome.
[20:39] <brontoeee> webBuilder, i think they simply limit the download bandwith per file, or force every file to be transcoded in the 1st place
[20:40] <imi> hi
[20:40] <B45h_V|> hey people. I got some (basic) knowledge about networking (sub-net-mask calculation and stuff), but I never did anything with 'bridged-connections'. I'm wondering now, how long would it take me to setup a open-vpn-server on Ubuntu server with a good tutorial. hour? day? week?
[20:40] <webBuilder> brontoeee, Mmm... make sense, do you know which one are the most common? and also once I force the client still I need to know what kind of it is
[20:41] <italic> im using xfce, anyone know the gnome package that includes system>Hardware/Additional Drivers
[20:41] <webBuilder> brontoeee, so which one is the best one in your opinion to know still what kind of video it is
[20:41] <webBuilder> mediainfo
[20:41] <webBuilder> ?
[20:41] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_mad: Are you seeing this problem after a fresh install?
[20:41] <imi> I'm experiencing hu.archive.ubuntu.com server down. what should I set instead of it?
[20:41] <brontoeee> webBuilder, possibly ffmpeg or/and mediainfo in the 1st step for partial files, then ..... i forgot the 2nd part of the sentence :)
[20:41] <smokkin> hey, im about to upgrade from ubuntu 9.10 to 10.10 using the livecd. just wanted to double check... this isnt going to wipe my files or home dir is it?
[20:41] <zth> my pulseaudio cuts off my mic sound in skype after approx 4 mins everytime. also pulseaudio gives me an error saying something about pa_something_() overflow and fails, anyone know anything about this? pa_buffer_overrun()
[20:42] <konraddo> Hi, I ordered Asus 1015PEM and I'm going to install Xubuntu on it, my friends is convincing me to install 64-bit version, but it's worth to install 64b instead of 32b?
[20:42] <webBuilder> brontoeee, no worries I'll repeated
[20:42] <B45h_V|> you'll have to upgrade to 10.04 first, but it won't wipe your files
[20:42] <brontoeee> webBuilder, that depends on how smart is your encoding script, you need to know only if video=true/false for some basic decisions and a lot more if you need to build something serious, like fps, audio type, resolution, interlaced or not, ect
[20:42] <ubuntu_mad> Jordan_U No,do you remember a few days ago you helped me fix a missing kernel problem,my box was only booting to memtest?
[20:42] <webBuilder> brontoeee, if I have to force the user to submit certian type of video file which one I should tell them to use, which one is the most popular ?
[20:42] <FunkyPaillette> Hey guys!
[20:42] <ron_> can anyone help me with dual monitor support?
[20:42] <guntbert> smokkin: upgrading using hte live CD? thats new to me - beware !
[20:43] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_mad: Yes.
[20:43] <smokkin> so i should just use the update manager?
[20:43] <khussein> How do I give another account on my system access to a specific file in my home folder?
[20:43] <B45h_V|> I got two screens and they work fine with nvidia drivers
[20:44] <ubuntu_mad> Jordan_U well its booted 3 times since but today it booted and i got this kernel panic
[20:44] <brontoeee> webBuilder, thats the bandwidth question, the best thing is to define one or more final formats and promise users that they will not get transcoded if they prepare video like so
[20:44] <andai> Iḿ running from USB. Can I do anything to speed it up?
[20:44] <FunkyPaillette> khussein: you change the permissions for this specific file
[20:45] <brontoeee> webBuilder, if your aim is flash then some sort of AVC / AAC in mp4 and/or older flv packed formats maybe (vp6, sorenson, dunno)
[20:45] <FunkyPaillette> khussein: look at the chmod command manpage
[20:45] <pablosky> hola
[20:45] <khussein> FunkyPaillette: I don't want it to be accessible globally, I just want it to be accessible for one other account.
[20:45] <B45h_V|> hey people. I got some (basic) knowledge about networking (sub-net-mask calculation and stuff), but I never did anything with 'bridged-connections'. I'm wondering now, how long would it take me to setup a open-vpn-server on Ubuntu server with a good tutorial. hour? day? week?
[20:45] <ubuntu_mad> Jordan_U should i boot the live disc and create the directory it says is missing
[20:45] <webBuilder> brontoeee, I thank you so much
[20:46] <webBuilder> brontoeee, I really appreciated your help
[20:46] <brontoeee> webBuilder, np, my hobby video is
[20:46] <FunkyPaillette> question for you guys: I just started developing again under linux and use Eclipse. I have absolutely horrible performances using it (despite my 4 gigs of memory). I checked and use the SUN JRE... Does someone have the same issue with Eclipse?
[20:46] <FunkyPaillette> khussein: create a group with you and the other user
[20:46] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_mad: No. If init really doesn't exist then you have bigger problems.
[20:46] <FunkyPaillette> khussein: change the ownership of the file to this group
[20:47] <khussein> FunkyPaillette: Yeah, that's what I thought. This solution sucks because it doesn't scale.
[20:47] <ubuntu_mad> Jordan_U ooops
[20:47] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_mad: Can you boot an oder kernel?
[20:47] <khussein> Like for every file that I wanna share with a different person, I create a new group.
[20:47] <smokkin> thank you much, im off to upgrade using update manager then
[20:47] <smokkin> =)
[20:47] <smokkin> thank you
[20:48] <ubuntu_mad> Jordan_U ill try boot yhe recovery one..one minute
[20:48] <FunkyPaillette> khussein: indeed. I have no clue if you want specific permissions for each users
[20:48] <lime> khussein, you would need a filesystem with acl support
[20:49] <spectre^> i just installed 10.10 and my second monitor'
[20:49] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_mad: I expect the fist recovery mode option will give the same result, try an older kernel (third entry in theboot menu or later).
[20:49] <spectre^> s resolution is like, past the edge of the screen
[20:49] <spectre^> Can anyone help with that?
[20:49] <ubuntu_mad> Jordon_U big issue is i dont have any older kernels in the boot menu
[20:49] <khussein> lime: Do you have examples?
[20:49] <she_dyed> spectre^: you need a 3rd!
[20:49] <ubuntu_mad> Jordan_U recovery has same issue
[20:50] <spectre^> maybe
[20:50] <khussein> Also, this sounds like it should be a much simpler problem to solve at higher abstraction layers than the filesystem.
[20:50] <spectre^> my 2nd monitor is a 47" lcd tv and I'm hoping to watch movies in ubuntu with it
[20:50] <lime> khussein, http://wiki.kaspersandberg.com/doku.php?id=howtos:acl
[20:50] <she_dyed> spectre^: what happens when you try to set it thru the System Prefs
[20:50] <lime> khussein, File access is negotiated at filesystem level
[20:51] <she_dyed> spectre^: see up to what rez it supports (manual around?)
[20:51] <spectre^> Yeah it never fits corretly
[20:51] <spectre^> it's always off the edge of the screen
[20:51] <Jordan_U> lime: Additional restrictions can be added by samba / NFS.
[20:51] <lime> Jordan_U, Not for a local user . . .
[20:51] <she_dyed> spectre^: roommate had a 30" in living room but rez was < 1440!
[20:51] <lud_> hi everyone does antbody know if irc works for cuba?
[20:52] <she_dyed> wait spectre^ what's the first screen?
[20:52] <lime> Jordan_U, and nfs permissions is negotiated locally too
[20:52] <Jordan_U> lime: Ahh, didn't see that it was a local user.
[20:52] <spectre^> the first screen is the laptop lcd...
[20:53] <spectre^> sorry i didnt specify that origionally
[20:53] <Rob235> damn 30gb file making it hard as hell to backup my homedir
[20:53] <spectre^> hold on
[20:54] <lime> khussein, If you want a gui for acl control, check out http://rofi.roger-ferrer.org/eiciel/
[20:55] <khussein> lime: thank you :).
[20:56] <lime> khussein, I just installed it here. eiciel is available from the ubutu repos
[20:59] <EchohcE> I'm attempting to dual-boot Snow Leopard and Kubuntu amd64 on a Macbook Pro 5,1 via rEFIt.  It's automatically creating dev/sda3, but the installer crashes after it downloads the language packs.  How can I get to finish installing?
[20:59] <EchohcE> The crash is related to dev/sda3 and it calls it a fatal error
[20:59] <lime> khussein, By the way, you will have to mount your filesystem with the acl option to make it work
[20:59] <euthymos> hi how can I have VSync while watching videos?
[20:59] <needhelp1> what is the default web browser for ubuntu 10.10 ?
[20:59] <lime> khussein, ext3 and ext4 supports acls
[21:00] <euthymos> needhelp1: firefox?
[21:00] <ubuntu_mad> Jordan_U im in live dick now,can i do anything?
[21:00] <euthymos> everytime I watch a video the image gets horizontally cut
[21:00] <euthymos> I have compiz enabled and Nvidia proprietary drivers
[21:00] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_mad: Try doing an fsck.
[21:01] <euthymos> heedhelp1: but you can install Chromium (== Chrome) if u want
[21:01] <needhelp1> euthymos, for some reason mine is defaulting to ... web browser
[21:01] <needhelp1> gnome web browser
[21:01] <EchohcE> I'm attempting to dual-boot Snow Leopard and Kubuntu amd64 on a Macbook Pro 5,1 via rEFIt.  It's automatically creating dev/sda3, but the installer crashes after it downloads the language packs.  How can I get to finish installing?
[21:01] <euthymos> needhelp1: oh my gosh. So go to Preferences > Favorite application
[21:02] <euthymos> needhelp1:or how you call it in English
[21:02] <ubuntu_mad> Jordan_U tried sudo fsck and got fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
[21:02] <euthymos> needhelp1: found it?
[21:02] <sporkboy> ok sta activated and in use. still no blue light or wifi
[21:02] <avo> Hey all. I'd like to upgrade to Maverick (I'm on Lucid). I have an apache2, ftp, and samba server running on this computer, with stuff stored in /var, and lots of apps+settings. If I upgrade, will this stuff be lost? (When I say upgrade, I mean using update-manager and hitting upgrade to 10.10). Thanks!
[21:02] <needhelp1> euthymos, right, i know how to change it, i just didnt know if ubuntu made the decision to move away from firefox as the default
[21:02] <EchohcE> I'm attempting to dual-boot Snow Leopard and Kubuntu amd64 on a Macbook Pro 5,1 via rEFIt.  It's automatically creating dev/sda3, but the installer crashes after it downloads the language packs.  How can I get to finish installing?
[21:03] <euthymos> needhelp1: did you recently install/remove any browser?
[21:03] <needhelp1> no
[21:03] <needhelp1> none
[21:03] <euthymos> needhelp1: unofficial repositories?
[21:03] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_mad: "sudo fsck -y /dev/sda1" (replace sda1 with the apropriate partition if different)
[21:03] <needhelp1> .. hum
[21:03] <needhelp1> let me check
[21:03] <westmi> avo probibly
[21:03] <lime> avo, Nothing in /var will normally be overwritten . . .
[21:03] <euthymos> needhelp1: by default there are none. You might have added them
[21:04] <jhaddad> where do my ufw rules get saved?  i don't see anything resembling them in /etc/ufw
[21:05] <avo> lime, So would it be safe to do a standard upgrade? What will be lost?
[21:05] <CO_MAN_CAM> j
[21:05] <CO_MAN_CAM> hjjjj
[21:05] <euthymos> needhelp1: unofficial repos are good to get fresh software anytime but they can mess everything up
[21:06] <lime> avo, You only use official repos?
[21:06] <avo> lime, I have a lot of PPAs.
[21:06] <EchohcE> I'm attempting to dual-boot Snow Leopard and Kubuntu amd64 on a Macbook Pro 5,1 via rEFIt.  It's automatically creating dev/sda3, but the installer crashes after it downloads the language packs.  How can I get to finish installing?
[21:06] <newbie|2> ciao
[21:06] <newbie|2> the list
[21:06] <ubuntu_mad> Jordan_U it recognises the partition and says clean
[21:07] <lime> avo, Normally will nothing be lost. Your config files will be kept, and new standard config files will be copied with other names
[21:07] <newbie|2> paride
[21:07] <lime> avo, You will have to check if all your PPA's work in maverick too
[21:07] <newbie|2> rambo 1
[21:07] <euthymos> newbie|2: ?
[21:08] <newbie|2> the list
[21:08] <newbie|2> film rambo 1 da scaricare
[21:08] <lime> avo, The installer will prompt you with questions if something _really_ needs to be fixed.
[21:08] <LjL> newbie|2: do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[21:09] <euthymos> newbie|2: you typing in the wrong channel
[21:09] <avo> lime, Well that sounds great then. So I've got nothing to lose then?
[21:09] <lime> avo, A hypothetical example of the installer stopping to prompt you: If php3 was ditched for php4, and your php.ini needed to be rewritten...
[21:09] <euthymos> guys nobody knows how to enable vsync in video playing??
[21:09] <spectre^> What I needed was to install the ati driver
[21:09] <spectre^> This is pretty sick now
[21:10] <euthymos> while I watch videos I get the image cut horizontally
[21:10] <lime> avo, I would of course recommend you to take a full backup first.
[21:10] <she_dyed> spectre^: sweet
[21:11] <anygivenname> how do I get sshd to log all hacking trials ?
[21:11] <avo> lime, How would you reccomend I do that? All my media is on an external HD. I copied my /var/www and ~ folder to an external HD. But a full system backup would be better :)
[21:11] <guntbert> !list | newbie|2
[21:11] <EchohcE> anygivenname:  Take a number.  THey're still helping other people
[21:11] <euthymos> anygivenname: it depends on what you call hacking
[21:11] <arrrghhh> anygivenname, how can you tell what's a hacking attempt and what's legitimate?
[21:12] <EchohcE> ...
[21:12] <euthymos> anyginvenname: I guess it logs login attempts. and that's all
[21:12] <EchohcE> I'm attempting to dual-boot Snow Leopard and Kubuntu amd64 on a Macbook Pro 5,1 via rEFIt.  It's automatically creating dev/sda3, but the installer crashes after it downloads the language packs.  How can I get to finish installing?
[21:12] <dwd81> ls
[21:12] <arrrghhh> !repeat | EchohcE
[21:13] <Guest66178> O_o
[21:13] <brontoeee> euthymos, with compiz enabled i guess? there is CompizConfig SettingsManager where you could enable 'sync to vblank'
[21:13] <kpoman> hey
[21:13] <Jordan_U> EchohcE: Have you run the integrity check at boot? (press any key during the first five seconds of boot to get the boot menu).
[21:13] <kpoman> how do I continue a partial upgrade ?
[21:14] <balr0g> hello guys, what means the 'p' , 'i' or 'c' in $ aptitude search <pattern>  ?
[21:14] <EchohcE> It never gets to boot...it's crashing on the livecd
[21:14] <Jordan_U> EchohcE: I am talking about the CD's boot menu.
[21:14] <guntbert> kpoman: how did you start one?
[21:14] <brontoeee> euthymos, the thing you need to fix is called 'tearing'
[21:14] <kpoman> I had a message that I was with a failed upgrade... I want to resume that upgrade. Is there a command line that does resume ?
[21:15] <EchohcE> I figured I didn't understand the question.  Thanks for clarifying.  No, I did not
[21:15] <euthymos> brontoeee: thank you for fixing my english and my video playback!!!
[21:15] <ericdolphy> hi. is it better to use lubuntu on an old laptop or netbook ubuntu?
[21:15] <Jordan_U> kpoman: Try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[21:15] <EchohcE> I keeps saying its a formatting error
[21:15] <kpoman> guntbert: I had a problem going to 10.10 (lack of free space) ... I was left with an unstable system (lot of stuff segfaults). I just got prompted that I was on a failed upgrade
[21:15] <Jordan_U> ericdolphy: lubuntu
[21:15] <balr0g> hello guys, what means the 'p' , 'i' or 'c' in $ aptitude search <pattern>  list result?
[21:15] <kpoman> Jordan_U: .... let me see
[21:15] <brontoeee> euthymos, working allready? :)
[21:15] <RoC_MasterMind> Anyone else get a boot hang after installing ubuntu server to an iscsi root?  I get this: http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9383/screenshotwrw.png
[21:16] <guntbert> kpoman: in that case I'd say: backup your data (if they are not on a separate partition anyway) and install afresh
[21:16] <euthymos> brontoeee: sure, I did exactly what you told me and it works like a charm. More, if I had searched "tearing", I would have solved my problem without coming here
[21:16] <brontoeee> right
[21:16] <j_ayen_green> getting really depressed. running ubuntu in vbox under vista...3Gb of ram with 1 allocated to ubuntu. When I click on a link, it's 3-5 seconds before the click registers. When I click on a line of text in a document, 3-5 seconds before the cursor appears on the line, etc.
[21:17] <steve3030> Say I install and configure the latest ubuntu on a test machine along with a bunch of services.  Is there a good way to 'clone' that process on another machine?
[21:17] <Jordan_U> EchohcE: What keeps saying this?
[21:17] <anygivenname> I connect to my Ubuntu remotely......I need Ubuntu to 1) keep log of attempts 2) really limit the attempts to 3 3) ban the IP after 3 attempts
[21:17] <blakkheim> j_ayen_green: install it natively then
[21:17] <arrrghhh> j_ayen_green, does your proc support hardware virtualization & do you have it enabled?
[21:17] <EchohcE> It's a crash report.  I'd get it to paste, but I know it'd be spam.
[21:17] <steve3030> I'm not sure what terms I should be googling
[21:17] <j_ayen_green> arrrghhh, no, it doesn't :(
[21:17] <arrrghhh> anygivenname, i think you're looking for ban2ip
[21:17] <euthymos> anygivenname: to block attempts, google for denyhosts
[21:18] <arrrghhh> j_ayen_green, there's your issue.  install it natively like blakkheim suggests.
[21:18] <anygivenname> i have fail2ban
[21:18] <j_ayen_green> blakkheim, unfortunately, I need vista for things like quickbooks and other apps, and the fact that ubuntu ignores some of my peripherals
[21:18] <euthymos> anygivenname: to keep log of attempts, you can man sshd
[21:18] <EchohcE> it makes the dev/sda3 to be 1mb.  I think it's not big enough, but when I attempted to recreate the partitions manually when I got back to rEFIt and tried booting it kept hanging at 'grub-parchel not found, grub_rescue'
[21:18] <arrrghhh> anygivenname, lol that's it sorry.
[21:18] <gomes_la> Ubuntu's default application for Documents can open http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-book_formats these all formats properly ? If not how can we support all of them with "Document Viewer" ?
[21:19] <blakkheim> j_ayen_green: you could dual boot. using it in a virtual machine is going to be slower than using it natively, especially without cpu virtualization support.
[21:19] <anygivenname> my sshd is not logging attempts
[21:19] <anygivenname> dunno why
[21:19] <blakkheim> anygivenname: change the loglevel in sshd_config to debug
[21:19] <Jordan_U> EchohcE: What do you mean "attempted to recreate the partitions manually"?
[21:19] <j_ayen_green> blakkheim, if I dual boot...will I have access to the vista file system from ubuntu?
[21:19] <euthymos> neither mine does. Listen to blakkheim but also man sshd
[21:19] <blakkheim> j_ayen_green: yes
[21:20] <arrrghhh> j_ayen_green, yes.
[21:20] <euthymos> beware of raising the log level
[21:20] <Jordan_U> EchohcE: That 1meg partition is the correct size and is required to boot. Don't mess with it.
[21:20] <euthymos> it's not always the safest bet
[21:20] <kpoman> Jordan_U: that command did nothing here. is there a resume command or whatever ?
[21:20] <ubuntu_mad> Jordan_U if i browse my file system via live disk the init file exists
[21:20] <EchohcE> I chose the third option to specify partitions manually in the installer because I haven't tried 10.04 since when it first came out.  Back then it would automatically put Grub2 to dev/sda instead of /sda3
[21:21] <ZykoticK9> euthymos, there are 2 places to enable vsync - 1) nvidia settings - both X and GL have the "Sync to VBlank" options and 2) Compiz - ccsm - General Options / Display Settings tab - Sync to VBlank.  Best of luck.
[21:21] <EchohcE> I had to specify partitions manually when lynx first came out
[21:21] <kpoman> and it gave me that message of a partial upgrade, then doesnt show me that again ?
[21:21] <j_ayen_green> blakkheim, arrrghhh  is there a way to take with me the installed apps, mysql databases, etc.?  I have backups, but I think that would be far from straight-forward
[21:21] <Jordan_U> kpoman: There is no "resume" command, only normal apt and dpkg commands. Try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[21:21] <euthymos> ZykoticK9: it works. thanx
[21:21] <gomes_la> Ubuntu's default application for Documents can open http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-book_formats these all formats properly ? If not how can we support all of them with "Document Viewer" ?
[21:21] <kpoman> it just tells me it is ok. .... but it is not
[21:21] <arrrghhh> j_ayen_green, no only data.  no installed apps.  some things work in wine, but that's not perfect.
[21:21] <kpoman> Jordan_U: nothing there,
[21:21] <Jordan_U> EchohcE: sda is the correct place to install grub.
[21:22] <blakkheim> j_ayen_green: you can use dpkg to make a list of installed packages and then apply that to the new install. i'm not a mysql expert so i don't know about that
[21:22] <kpoman> Jordan_U: do you think it could be related to this: "N: Ignoring file 'array-apt-key.asc' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension"
[21:22] <infid> what's the best text-based browser? links2, elinks, lynx, w3...?
[21:22] <arrrghhh> j_ayen_green, crossover may have a solution for quickbooks, not sure.
[21:22] <EchohcE> Jordan_U:  not when I'm dual-booting
[21:22] <EchohcE> or has that changed?
[21:22] <Jordan_U> EchohcE: Why not?
[21:22] <j_ayen_green> arrrghhh, no, i meant the apps installed on ubuntu... blakkheim fielded it.
[21:22] <EchohcE> because it's never worked that way in the past.  I'm putting ubuntu on a macbook and dualbooting
[21:22] <arrrghhh> infid, they all suck in one way or another... i'd say lynx is the most popular tho.
[21:23] <arrrghhh> j_ayen_green, ok then.
[21:23] <j_ayen_green> i can just do a mysqldump on all the databases I guess
[21:23] <infid> arrrghhh: isn't lynx old and less powerful, eg no frames/css, etc
[21:23] <apparle> I have done a minimal install of ubuntu, now how do I start X?
[21:23] <j_ayen_green> and make a copy of the apache2 subdirectories and the etc/hosts file
[21:23] <blakkheim> apparle: what window manager?
[21:23] <arrrghhh> infid, you're worried about frames & css in a text-based browser...?  really?
[21:23] <fester225> I'm trying to edit etc/fstab using vi. This doesn't work. Are there any SIMPLE editing programs I can use to edit fstab?
[21:23] <infid> arrrghhh: yeah because i dont have a vpn or anything but ssh and need to test a web page
[21:23] <EchohcE> before 9.10 it would just let me put the bootloader on dev/sda3.  When grub2 came out, that bugged and woldn't let me auto-do that anymore.  I had to create a dev/sda3 to put it on and it would work perfectly
[21:23] <Jordan_U> EchohcE: grub-legacy didn't understand gpt and would overwrite the gpt label when installed to the mbr. Grub2 has never had this problem, but people still, incorrectly, recommend installing to a partition instead of the mbr. The mbr is the correct place for grub, even on macs.
[21:23] <apparle> blakkheim: actually I want to start the application enna
[21:24] <blakkheim> fester225: vi is simple to me, maybe try nano
[21:24] <arrrghhh> apparle, i don't think it comes with X... it's the minimal install :P
[21:24] <apparle> arrrghhh: install x
[21:24] <arrrghhh> infid, ssh -X
[21:24] <apparle> arrrghhh: I mean installed it
[21:24] <infid> arrrghhh: the server doesnt support any of that
[21:24] <Chaos2358> hey guys i have a kinda strange question. i dont even know exactlly what i'm looking for either but when using windows and internet explorer i could hit f11 and make the explorer window full screen. since using firefox i cannot seem to find away to do this. anyone know what i'm talking about?
[21:24] <fester225> At the end of editing I typed zz and the program didn't save or end.
[21:24] <EchohcE> even though my mac is efi instead of mbr?
[21:24] <MorpheuXNL> goodevening
[21:24] <infid> arrrghhh: nor can i ssh tunel port 80 since the way docroot is configured
[21:24] <arrrghhh> apparle, uhm... ubuntu-desktop is a huge meta package.  kinda defeats the purpse.  there's guides out there.
[21:24] <Jordan_U> EchohcE: Yes.
[21:24] <blakkheim> Chaos2358: F11 should make firefox fullscreen.. or maybe it was F10
[21:24] <infid> f11
[21:24] <yellowtime> shot in the dark.. but any of the old UWWWB members around here?
[21:25] <gomes_la> Ubuntu's default application for Documents can open http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-book_formats these all formats properly ? If not how can we support all of them with "Document Viewer" ?
[21:25] <Chaos2358> blakkheim, none of my functions make it full screen
[21:25] <arrrghhh> infid, text based browsers are not a good way to test sites, no matter how you slice it
[21:25] <apparle> arrrghhh: I didn't install ubuntu-desktop
[21:25] <MorpheuXNL> i want to reinstall ubuntu but need to keep my home dir as it is. can anyone tell me how to do that
[21:25] <EchohcE> when Grub2 would put it to dev/sda, it wouldn't work though.  Has that changed?
[21:25] <euthymos> ZykoticK9: problem now is that I get loooow FPS in 3D games. The very same game under Windows runs at a 400-500% faster framerate
[21:25] <apparle> blakkheim: any ideas?
[21:25] <arrrghhh> apparle, that's a package too friend.
[21:25] <EchohcE> gah, I'll be back after I try it
[21:25] <blakkheim> Chaos2358: in firefox go to view -> fullscreen (and it might have a hotkey listed)
[21:25] <infid> arrrghhh: in this case it's all i can do and it's good enough to see if my backend code is working via ssh editing
[21:25] <balr0g> hello guys, how to know if i have a package installed (ruby) ?
[21:25] <blakkheim> apparle: you never told me what window manager you installed
[21:25] <fester225> blakkheim: At the end of editing I typed zz and vi didn't save or quit.
[21:25] <xangua> MorpheuXNL: make a copy of your home and the enxt time you may wanna make a partition just for home
[21:26] <blakkheim> fester225: maybe read some vim tutorials
[21:26] <infid> fester225: :wq saves and quits
[21:26] <apparle> blakkheim: I want to start the application enna
[21:26] <blakkheim> apparle: does that require X?
[21:26] <apparle> blakkheim: yup
[21:26] <MorpheuXNL> xangua: and how would i make a seperate partition for home do i do that in the setup
[21:26] <blakkheim> apparle: do you not want to use a window manager or?
[21:26] <Chaos2358> blakkheim,  maybe my firefox isnt up to date because i dont have full screen under view option
[21:26] <arrrghhh> apparle, you can try just installing xserver-xorg, not sure how well that works.
[21:26] <ZykoticK9> euthymos, that's to be expected with vsync enabled - you can watch the fps drop dramatically just using glxgears - you get close to non with vsync enabled.  You may need to alternate between the two settings, 1 for video 1 for 3D.  Good luck man.
[21:26] <binary01> trying to install ubuntu from a usb drive. the install completes successfully but ubuntu never boots up. just stays at a blinking cursor. anyone know why this could happen?
[21:26] <Malkavian_> I am trying to prevent opening a pdf file and printing it by using "pdftk InputFile.pdf output OutputFile.pdf owner_pw Password_own user_pw Password_user"; this works, but I still can print the file by just printing it as pdf; am I missing something?
[21:26] <darkenvy6> Does anyone know of a hadlheld ubuntu? non-ARMEL though
[21:27] <Jordan_U> xangua: MorpheuXNL: http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/1093664654/no-need-to-complicate-your-life
[21:27] <Pe3k_> hello, I cant install anything (apt-get install), it tries to connect to http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com but always there is connection failed ....apt-get update also same failure, how to change server?
[21:27] <blakkheim> Chaos2358: hmm, not sure then. what version is it?
[21:27] <LC> join #ubuntu-br
[21:27] <ubuntu_mad> Jordan_U can i try copy that file from the live disk to my system
[21:27] <j_ayen_green> arrrghhh, blakkheim : thanks for the help
[21:27] <doc|home> is there anything in the default repos equivalent to timemachine? Can find something outside but would rather have it managed already.
[21:27] <arrrghhh> darkenvy6, there's a port to msm devices (phones) but that's pretty OT
[21:27] <blakkheim> Pe3k_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:27] <apparle> blakkheim: arrrghhh I install xserver-xorg-core, but how to start it? when I run enna regarding display not available
[21:27] <euthymos> ZykoticK9: no it's an independent problem
[21:27] <darkenvy6> iphone perhaps?
[21:27] <darkenvy6> lol wait thats arm
[21:27] <arrrghhh> apparle, startx
[21:27] <Chaos2358> blakkheim, how do i find out what version?
[21:27] <blakkheim> apparle: you need to install a window manager
[21:27] <arrrghhh> darkenvy6, oic.  either way, OT :P
[21:27] <balr0g> hey guys, how to know what packages has been installed (ruby) ?
[21:28] <blakkheim> Chaos2358: help - > about firefox (i think, don't have access to linux version atm)
[21:28] <euthymos> ZykoticK9: it's not related to VSync, at all. on Ubuntu my 3D performance is crap compared to what I get on windows. Is it nvidia drivers fault?
[21:28] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_mad: The file exists, so that is not the problem. The problem is that, for whatever reason, your root partition isn't being mounted properly at boot.
[21:28] <darkenvy6> bah. kinda looking for something like my eee-pc but touchscreen and bocketable
[21:28] <MorpheuXNL> xangua: how can i check if it does not already have an own partition
[21:28] <apparle> blakkheim: why? why can't I start an x application straight away
[21:28] <anygivenname> blakkheim: I changed sshd_config to debug but still it is not logging attemepts onto auth.log
[21:28] <spectre^> what application should I use to play DVD's?
[21:28] <ubuntu_mad> Jordan_U what can i do?
[21:28] <xangua> MorpheuXNL: if you are not sure surely does not
[21:28] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_mad: I don't know.
[21:28] <sandro_> do you knows SMPS channels in IRC?
[21:28] <brontoeee> spectre^, vlc
[21:28] <Pe3k_> blakkheim, ok thanks and which server should I use?
[21:28] <blakkheim> apparle: you can put the application in your ~/.xinitrc "exec nameofprogram" and try typing startx - might work, but a window manager would be easier
[21:28] <sandro_> do you knows SMPS channels in IRC?
[21:28] <Angelov> Does anyone know how to change the MAC address permanent. I try with puting the "hwaddress ether <MAC address> " in /etc/network/interfaces, but no success, every time I restart the network , network connection made new "auto Ethernet" connection without the MAC address. Any solution?
[21:29] <arrrghhh> apparle, did startx not work?
[21:29] <apparle> arrrghhh: after I do startx , I get a new small terminal in left top quarter of my screen, but in this terminal, there are no sound drivers
[21:29] <blakkheim> anygivenname: restart the daemon
[21:29] <Chaos2358> blakkheim, 3.6.11
[21:29] <ubuntu_mad> Jordan_U may do a fresh install
[21:29] <anygivenname> how?
[21:29] <xangua> !medibuntu
[21:29] <xangua> spectre^: any player, but you need libdvdcs2 installed; you can find it in medibuntu
[21:29] <arrrghhh> apparle, you need alsa... c'mon man you installed -minimal
[21:29] <ZykoticK9> euthymos, i don't know man?  that's something that's very difficult to test, what are you using as a comparison?  if you're using wine games you really can't, cause that's going to go through software rendering.
[21:29] <blakkheim> Pe3k_: that's up to you, i imagine the one you tried before was just temporarily down
[21:29] <blakkheim> Chaos2358: that's the newest
[21:29] <binary01> trying to install ubuntu from a usb drive. the install completes successfully but ubuntu never boots up. just stays at a blinking cursor. anyone know why this could happen?
[21:29] <blakkheim> anygivenname: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[21:29] <euthymos> ZykoticK9: an opengl game which is 100% crossplatform
[21:29] <apparle> arrrghhh: I did install alsa, and if x is not started, it works fine, but after startx it says no soundcards found
[21:30] <arrrghhh> apparle, hum... that's odd.
[21:30] <Jordan_U> binary01: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[21:30] <ZykoticK9> euthymos, ya like quake3 on both systems would be a fair test i suppose.
[21:30] <arrrghhh> apparle, why the hodge-podge system anyways?
[21:30] <Chaos2358> blakkheim,  any idea why i dont have a fullscreen option? do i need a plug in or something?
[21:30] <binary01> no. im on a thinkpad w500
[21:30] <Diamondcite> Chaos2358: F11 doesn't fullscreen your firefox?
[21:30] <apparle> arrrghhh: means?
[21:30] <binary01> trying to install ubuntu 10.10
[21:30] <Diamondcite> Chaos2358: Or is that not your question?
[21:30] <ZykoticK9> euthymos, are you using the 256 nvidia (current) on 10.10?  it seems like the fastest video i've ever had (haven't tried many games yet though)
[21:30] <blakkheim> Chaos2358: no it should be there, i really don't know why. i don't use ubuntu, maybe they applied a patch to change the behavior? you can ask someone else who has firefox to check if they have it
[21:30] <arrrghhh> apparle, you seem to be trying to fit a square peg into a round hole for some odd reason.  i'm just wondering why.
[21:31] <Chaos2358> blakkheim, yes thats my question f11 doesnt work neither do any of the other fkeys even when paired with function
[21:31] <apparle> arrrghhh: just to see how minimal stuff works.
[21:31] <brontoeee> in 3.6.11 f11 works just fine Chaos2358
[21:31] <Jordan_U> binary01: Try booting for the USB again. Ubuntu's installer has a bug where it sometimes installs grub to the wrong drive.
[21:31] <aeon-ltd> arrrghhh: where does it say no sound cards found? alsamixer?
[21:31] <xangua> Chaos2358: using another desktop/window manager¿ maybe you changed the key combination
[21:31] <Thisistode> Cool
[21:31] <ubuntu_mad> Jordan_U might upgrading to 10.10 fix it?is that possible via live disk?
[21:31] <Thisistode> Got my Ubuntu almost all set up now :D
[21:31] <arrrghhh> aeon-ltd, that's apparle you want to talk to ;)
[21:31] <Chaos2358> xangua havent changed any window settings
[21:31] <euthymos> Zykotic9: actually it doesn't seem I can install any version numbered 256. I'm using the one called "current"
[21:31] <binary01> what do i do after i boot from the usb?
[21:31] <Diamondcite> Chaos2358: Are you using a VM or is Ubuntu running directly?
[21:32] <Chaos2358> Diamondcite,  vm???
[21:32] <arrrghhh> Chaos2358, do you not have normal function keys?
[21:32] <aeon-ltd> arrrghhh: oh right, sorry
[21:32] <Jordan_U> binary01: If it boots into your installed system, then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" to change which device grub is configured to install to.
[21:32] <Chaos2358> arrrghhh, yes top of keyboard 1 through 12
[21:32] <Diamondcite> Chaos2358: Err let me rephrase, HOW is this ubuntu running? Physically on a box infront of you.. or in a window on another computer?
[21:32] <nightwalk> I think the Sugar preview messed up my mouse button & a few keyboard key assignments (left-click grabs rather than generating a left-click, tab doesn't work properly, etc). Anyone have any idea how to get gnome to revert back to the defaults? This is on Ubuntu 10.04, btw
[21:32] <aeon-ltd> apparle: where does it say no sound cards found? alsamixer?
[21:33] <xangua> Virtual Machine* Chaos2358 , Diamondcite not everyone here uses english as primary language use full names of things ;)
[21:33] <Gnurdux> hey, is there any easy way to downgrade X?
[21:33] <binary01> thanks, ill try that
[21:33] <Jordan_U> binary01: You're welcome.
[21:33] <Chaos2358> Diamondcite,  ubuntu is installed on the hard drive of the computer i'm using
[21:33] <aeon-ltd> Gnurdux: besides uninstalling and installing a older version?
[21:33] <apparle> aeon-ltd: never mind, a restart seems to have fixed it
[21:33] <Gnurdux> aeon-ltd, well, without breakign the rest of ubuntu
[21:33] <Diamondcite> Chaos2358: So do things like F5 to refresh a page work?
[21:33] <Chaos2358> xangua, i use english as my first language but not to familiar with the tech accronyms
[21:33] <spectre^> what release is 10.10 called? :P
[21:34] <aeon-ltd> apparle: oh good :), reminds me of the I.T Crowd
[21:34] <Angelov> Can anyone give me a script how to make automaticly change MAC address with the #ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:00:00:00:00:00
[21:34] <aeon-ltd> Gnurdux: then no, why do you need to?
[21:34] <apparle> aeon-ltd: IT crowd?
[21:34] <Chaos2358> Diamondcite,  yes
[21:34] <darkenvy6> I would love to change my mac
[21:34] <darkenvy6> yes someone tell me too
[21:34] <nightwalk> Angelov: You can use macchanger for that
[21:34] <she_dyed> apparle: a tv show
[21:34] <Gnurdux> aeon-ltd, because ATI's latest driver, which is the only one that works on the new X, is broken
[21:34] <aeon-ltd> apparle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt9j80Jkc_A
[21:34] <Diamondcite> Chaos2358: Are you in a DEFAULT ubuntu envoriment(GNOME) or did you change it to something else?
[21:35] <Chaos2358> Diamondcite, default gnome
[21:35] <Diamondcite> Hrm.. open up a terminal.
[21:35] <Diamondcite> Press F11
[21:35] <Diamondcite> What happens?
[21:35] <aeon-ltd> Gnurdux: ok then i've got no solution but wait for the next release to fix the bug
[21:35] <Angelov> nightwalk: Yes but with that I have to change every time I boot the Ubuntu
[21:35] <apparle> aeon-ltd: arrrghhh now what should I do so that my system starts straight with enna and exits when I close enna
[21:35] <apparle> ?
[21:35] <Diamondcite> Chaos2358: Open up a terminal, press F11, does it full screen?
[21:35] <Chaos2358> it makes it full screen
[21:35] <Diamondcite> Chaos2358: So firefox is alone...
[21:35] <nightwalk> Angelov: so? Just call it from /etc/rc.local
[21:35] <Gnurdux> aeon-ltd, so downgrading X will necessarily break all of Ubuntu?
[21:36] <Chaos2358> yes
[21:36] <Diamondcite> Chaos2358: Hold on let me update mine ^_^
[21:36] <Chaos2358> Diamondcite,  ok
[21:36] <avo> How can I back up my entire system? I'd like to upgrade from Lucid to Maverick, but if anything goes wrong, I would like to be able to "flip a switch" and have the partition become Lucid again; exactly as I left it. Is this possible/how?
[21:36] <darkenvy6> clonezilla
[21:36] <aeon-ltd> apparle: safe mode, try the fallback kernel
[21:36] <darkenvy6> I just used it last night ^^
[21:36] <apparle> aeon-ltd: means?
[21:36] <Chaos2358> Diamondcite,  no need i just found the problem
[21:37] <perseus> I need a way to enhance my sound in Ubuntu, is there any applicaition such as SRS or DFX for any player or Ubuntun in general
[21:37] <Diamondcite> Chaos2358: Really? Care to share for the others?
[21:37] <Angelov> nightwalk: I want to make it automaticly to start the connection coz I use wired connection , its anoying to change it every time :)
[21:37] <brontoeee> Chaos2358, tried nuking .mozzila ? (just rename .mozzila to .mozzila_bak) and restart firefox
[21:37] <she_dyed> apparle: seems you want it dedicated to 'kiosk mode' <-- google for the technique
[21:37] <aeon-ltd> apparle: when you boot there should be a option in GRUB to boot into the safe kernel
[21:37] <brontoeee> Chaos2358, thats /home/Chaos/.mozilla
[21:38] <perseus>  I need a way to enhance my sound in Ubuntu, is there any applicaition such as SRS or DFX for any player or Ubuntun in general
[21:38] <Chaos2358> Diamondcite,  when i have the window expanded to "fit to screen" and press f11 nothing happens when i shrink the window and press f11 it makes it full screen and hides the toolbars as it is supposed to
[21:38] <nightwalk> Angelov: My answer is still the same. Dump either a macchanger command, or an appropriate ifconfig command to /etc/rc.local
[21:38] <blakkheim> !repeat | perseus
[21:39] <perseus> i got nothing particular in any forum..
[21:39] <ubuntu_mad> can i upgrade a live usb from 10.04 to 10.10?
[21:39] <perseus> ubuntu_mad: live USB ... i think not.
[21:40] <ubuntu_mad> perseus ok thanks
[21:40] <Chaos2358> Diamondcite, that was the problem. i have two inches of toolbars i dont want to have to dissable and enable constantlly just want them to auto hide as f11 does when it expands the window but it does not work when the window is already filling up the screen
[21:40] <binary01> jordan_U, i did what you explained and it is asking which disk to install grub and none of them work when i select them
[21:40] <arrrghhh> ubuntu_mad, you can try might be fun.  but if it doesn't work, just make another one.
[21:40] <Diamondcite> Chaos2358: Thank you for the information, I'll keep that in mind ^_^
[21:40] <apparle> Why are the packages "libeina-svn-05" giving not available under maverick
[21:40] <Jordan_U> binary01: What do you mean by them "not working"? Do you get an error message?
[21:40] <Angelov> nightwalk: about the /etc/rc.local , I try with it but no success, btw I leave the value for "exit 0" (maybe I need to erase that)? Give me explanaion what i need to do if you know
[21:41] <Chaos2358> Diamondcite, thanks for the help
[21:41] <WXZ> how can I open up a bunch of files
[21:41] <apparle> she_dyed: I am getting very old links, do you have any specific link?
[21:41] <WXZ> without having the "run in terminal, display, close" dialogue popping up for each file
[21:41] <perseus> WXZ what do you mean by opening bunch of files?
[21:41] <eli_> I have a internal soundcard on my motherboard and a external pci soundcard. would like to configure so that ubuntu uses my external sound card. how could I do this?
[21:42] <perseus> WXZ what kind of files you trying to open?
[21:42] <arrrghhh> WXZ, what type of files are these...?
[21:42] <nightwalk> Angelov: Everything you put in /etc/rc.local needs to be *above* the 'exit 0'. Anything below it won't get executed, because the exit 0 causes the script to abort and return control back to the calling process (init, in this case)
[21:42] <WXZ> .note files
[21:42] <WXZ> with geany
[21:42] <aeon-ltd> eli_: gnome alsamixer may have the settings your looking for
[21:42] <she_dyed> apparle: narrow it down to firefox or browsers only because the technique 'EXPORT DISPLAY something' hasnt changed
[21:42] <binary01> i select my main partiton and a small swap partition and i get an error that says 'failed to install the following devices, /dev/sda /dev/mmcblk0 do you want to continue anyway?
[21:42] <VCoolio> eli_: disable onboard card in bios so ubuntu has no choice
[21:42] <arrrghhh> WXZ, associate your favorite reader with these files then.  right click -> properties on one of the .note files
[21:42] <perseus> WXZ try opening gedit first and then select drag an drop to that ...
[21:43] <WXZ> with gedit it works fine
[21:43] <grid_> with ubunu 10.10 do i have sshd installed?
[21:43] <Jordan_U> binary01: Don't select the partitions at all (though that probably won't fix the error).
[21:43] <perseus> WXZ or you can do what arrrghhh said ...
[21:43] <grid_> i get The remote system refused the connection.
[21:43] <darkmist> how do I find what version of java is installed on my ubuntu system?
[21:43] <grid_> so the port is opened i guess
[21:43] <WXZ> they're already associated with geany
[21:43] <VCoolio> WXZ: nautilus, the file manager, has an option in preferences to ask or not ask this for text files
[21:43] <Jordan_U> binary01: Can you pastebin  the output of "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"?
[21:43] <nightwalk> ubuntu_mad: Sure, you should be able to upgrade a live 10.04 media to 10.10. Just be aware you'll have to contend with the stupidity that is dpkg, and will most likely have to go into the filesystem several times and delete dpkg's scripts *manually*, since the debian soup nazis don't believe in providing --force
[21:44] <WXZ> actually I have a work around
[21:44] <binary01> just goes back to command line
[21:44] <jo> hey you guys, I just wonder how you can make a little textbox appear on the screen of a computer you logged in by ssh?
[21:44] <balr0g> hello guys, i execute this command: $ aptitude install ruby1.9.1 ruby1.9.1-dev ruby1.9.1-examples ruby1.9.1-full rubybook rubygems-doc rubygems1.9.1 libmysql-ruby1.9.1 libpgsql-ruby1.9.1 libxml-ruby1.9.1 libnokogiri-ruby1.9.1 libhttpclient-ruby1.9.1 libzip-ruby1.9.1 libspreadsheet-ruby1.9.1 libtwitter-ruby1.9.1 why im getting The program 'ruby' is currently not installed. when trying 'ruby -v' to check the ruby version installed ?? can anyone bring me so
[21:44] <balr0g> me clue?
[21:44] <bfinch> nightwalk how do you REALLY feel about things ?
[21:45] <perseus> This is pretty active IRC :)
[21:45] <VCoolio> jo: DISPLAY=:0.0 notify-send "Test" "Message"         <-- something like that?
[21:45] <darkmist> ls -l $(type -path -all java) shows 2 java files - How do I find out which version of JAVA is installed?
[21:45] <darkmist> ls -l $(type -path -all java) shows 2 java files - How do I find out which version of JAVA is installed?
[21:45] <nightwalk> bfinch: Don't get me wrong, I like Ubuntu. I just really, really hate dpkg and it's backward way of doing things
[21:45] <WXZ> yup, that worked :)
[21:45] <disappearedng> disappearedng what's up
[21:45] <ubuntu_mad> Im reading in the forums alot about manual editing when upgrading via live disk
[21:45] <Angelov> nightwalk:  ok, so I do that right. but nothig change. Something is weard with my connection. In the /etc/network/interfaces I put the MAC address, and that was work for ubuntu 10.04. Now I update to 10.10 and everytime I try to connect the Network Manager connects with new "Auto Ethernet" Connection with no MAC address specify
[21:46] <WXZ> arrrghhh, perseus: I just opened up the text editor, selected all the .note files and dragged them into the text editors window
[21:46] <jo> VCoolio: I'll give it a shot
[21:46] <perseus> anyone knows a tool by which i can enhance my sound?
[21:46] <aeon-ltd> darkmist: java -version ???
[21:46] <arrrghhh> WXZ, ok...
[21:46] <ikonia> balr0g: when you do ruby -v what do you see
[21:46] <perseus> WXZ yeah .. thats what i do  :)
[21:46] <bfinch> nightwalk.... oh i agree
[21:47] <guntbert> !upgrade | ubuntu_mad did you read this?
[21:47] <bfinch> nightwalk it's just nice seeing someone else who "gets it"
[21:47] <darkmist> java version "1.6.0_20"
[21:47] <nightwalk> Angelov: The stuff in /etc/rc.local gets ran *after* all of the other init scripts, so your network connection is being brought up before the mac gets changed. Try adding 'service networking restart' after the line that changes the mac address
[21:47] <disappearedng> anyone use sony vaio on ubuntu 10.10
[21:47] <Jordan_U> binary01: No output at all from "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"?
[21:47] <darkmist> ls -l $(type -path -all java) shows 2 java files >> which are
[21:47] <darkmist> /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java
[21:47] <darkmist> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/java -> ../jre/bin/java
[21:47] <bfinch> nighthwalk it's hard to justify deb when other much better stuff (like pacman) exsist
[21:48] <oly562> hello, got a question: how can i tell if i have a program installed with apt-get, or aptitude in cmdlne. syntax? thanks
[21:48] <tecladozurdo> I use ubuntu 10.10 sony vaio vgn-320e
[21:48] <gilesw> heya all
[21:48] <nightwalk> bfinch: imo, rpm is the best solution we have atm.
[21:48] <blakkheim> oh wow
[21:48] <darkmist> aeon-ltd: why 2 java files are shown?
[21:49] <oly562> darkmist: you having an issue with elluminate or something that calls on java-6 jvm?
[21:49] <Angelov> nightwish: in the r.local? Or Interfaces?
[21:49] <gilesw> i'm struggling to remove the remnants of X from my mythtv backend server
[21:49] <nightwalk> bfinch: pacman may or may not be nicer, but it's only available in one distro: arch. Arch is so badly broken and outdated that I could never recommend people use it
[21:49] <bfinch> nightwalk well i would agree except that there is no standard wrapper util for it... AND rpm hasome issues that the devs refuse to fix
[21:49] <darkmist> oly562 .. so there is an issue with my java installation ..right?
[21:50] <darkmist> oly562 .. how do I fix the problem?
[21:50] <oly562> can you launch a java jm app from the net, where java loads, and it opens a new window?
[21:50] <bfinch> nightwalk.... um i see you really do not know arch... becasue as a rooling release it is never outdated.
[21:50] <bfinch> rooling =rolling
[21:50] <perseus> nightwalk many woud disagree about arch :P
[21:50] <gilesw> I've removed packages like gdm but ubuntu is still trying to load x
[21:50] <oly562> jvm however its said, ya know, the new window that pops up, like in an elluminate session?
[21:50] <bfinch> NOTHING is outdated about a rolling release
[21:50] <perseus> nightwalk yeah ... just as i said .. :P
[21:50] <nightwalk> bfinch: careful...there are actually two different rpm's out in the wild now. If the talk I've heard in #rpm is to be believed, that particular branch may get .deb support before long
[21:50] <oly562> hello, got a question: how can i tell if i have a program installed with apt-get, or aptitude in cmdlne. syntax? thanks
[21:50] <Swian> gotta say I don't like the netbook remix much, I prefer running the full version, works fine
[21:50] <bfinch> and pacman works so it is hardly "broken"
[21:50] <darkmist> can you launch a java jm app from the net, where java loads, and it opens a new window? HOW??
[21:51] <oly562> is it apt-get info?
[21:51] <grid_> do i have sshd with ubuntu 10.10? or do i need to type sudo apt-get install openssh-server /
[21:51] <grid_> please :)
[21:51] <nightwalk> perseus: arch doesn't have virtio support. First and biggest failing.
[21:51] <oly562> darkmist:  i had a similiar issue if not the same
[21:51] <bfinch> nightwalk, rpm support for deb is an oxymoron
[21:51] <bfinch> what is virtio ?
[21:51] <Swian> hehe
[21:51] <perseus> :D
[21:51] <chuckc> upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 and now getting netatalk warning when i connect to afp shares from my mac, 'something wrong with the volume's CNID DB, using temporary CNID DB instead. Check server messages for details!'
[21:51] <VCoolio> oly562: you can't, in the end they both use dpkg, the same database; only shell history could tell if it was recently
[21:51] <guntbert> grid_: why don't you try? won't hurt
[21:51] <densone> I am trying to use access.conf and it's not working. Wondering if I somehow have to enable it in ubuntu.
[21:51] <nightwalk> bfinch: I dunno. I wouldn't mind making .deb's if I didn't have to contend with debian's god-awful build methodology
[21:52] <perseus> nightwalk no ideas buddy .. but i have been on neowin and there are some pretty staunch supporters there.
[21:52] <aeon-ltd> darkmist: no idea, maybe one has different permissions
[21:52] <Jordan_U> binary01: No output at all from "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"?
[21:52] <rdw200169> VCoolio: oly562 i agree, was gonna say it
[21:52] <apparle> she_dyed: didn't find anything useful, everyone installs a window manager
[21:52] <darkmist> oly562: any idea how I could solve the issue?
[21:52] <perseus> jordan_u can you repeat your quest?
[21:52] <oly562> here is what i did,,, when the popup comes, make sure it's says, java-6, if not, you goto your browser apps settings under options and make sure it loads the /usr/bin/java-6
[21:52] <nightwalk> Angelov: if you do 'service networking restart', it bounces the network interfaces. Putting that after your mac change statement *should* allow any mac binding you're doing from other configs to work
[21:53] <darkmist> aeon-ltd .. both have the same set of permissions
[21:53] <oly562> thats how i fixed it, and then when the popup shows, just make sure to select the "always use this program" option
[21:53] <oly562> simple
[21:53] <Jordan_U> perseus: I am giving support.
[21:53] <darkmist> aeon-ltd: .. both have the same set of permissions
[21:53] <oly562> shouldnt matter how many java installs and dir's you have, as long as you point it to the correct binary to run
[21:53] <bfinch> nightwalk.... since arch has a TRUE user supported repo (aur) if YOU seek virtio... YOU can create it
[21:53] <etheretic1> Are there any benefits to using ext4 instead of ext3 on external usb hard disks? Less likelyhood of bad blocks, etc.?
[21:53] <oly562> i loaded java 6, and the firefox java-6 pluggin
[21:54] <nightwalk> perseus: I'd be kind of curious *why*. Unless it's just a cult following, I may have missed something important last time I evaluated it.
[21:54] <perseus> jordan_U sorry ... :P
[21:54] <bfinch> etheretic1, perhaps.... but i have NEVER had lost data with ext3
[21:54] <VCoolio> etheretic1: no it just supports very large partitions and stuff
[21:54] <oly562> that is why you have a few diff java dir's i believe
[21:54] <apparle> Why doesn't tab work sometimes in minimal install?
[21:54] <Jordan_U> perseus: np :)
[21:54] <VCoolio> etheretic1: it doesn't matter for an usb, though some will claim ext3 is more stable
[21:54] <perseus> nightwalk have a look there in Linux support forum .. u will be baffled .. :D
[21:54] <nightwalk> bfinch: I have my own rpm repo out on the 'net already, and there's also launchpad. Don't really see a problem there.
[21:54] <oly562> darkmist: same goes for anything, you have to have the right /usr/bin/program-bin pointed to in browser settings, like i use evince to ALWAYS open up my pdf's, i set that in apps in options of FF
[21:55] <VCoolio> etheretic1: and ext3 is a little better supported by MS if you need
[21:55] <Ichat> Swian:  - first thing wrong with UNR  is that its gnome based rather than for example  lxde/xfce  based  -1   the seccound its that its interface forces a modern gpu for no reason so your old  notebook that has a big(ger) screen but low resolution, and low resources like cpu and ram cant profit from the netbook version  -2    and still  even if you do have unr running its hardly intergrating...
[21:55] <Ichat> ...all the apps
[21:55] <oly562> same for videos, plugins, so forth, they need to be set in FF, sometimes manually if you have comflicting plugins grabbing for the same operation
[21:55] <etheretic1> bfinch: Ah. Ran amule temp and incoming on a quite new WD 1.5tb elements. Salvaging rest w. testdisk now, :/
[21:55] <oly562> darkmist: understand?
[21:55] <perseus> nightwalk .. and whats with these RPM repos .. y do you need that ...
[21:56] <bfinch> nightwalk, um. i did n't say there was a problem.... YOU did .... and i really cannot see what you are saying aobut arch to be true..
[21:56] <oly562> right now, im trying to get friggen Hula working to play through the browser
[21:56] <Swian> Ichat: I like gnome, but didn't care for the interface, performance wise it was ok
[21:56] <doc|home> is there anything in the default repos equivalent to timemachine? Can find something outside but would rather have it managed already.
[21:56] <etheretic1> VCoolio: i boycot m$...
[21:56] <darkmist> oly562: its not browser. I am working with Eclipse and seems like my build is getting messed up because of JAVA compiler mismatch
[21:56] <indio> Hi. Anyone experienced sound problems (no sound) with Ubuntu latest edition (Maverick Meerkat) in OO.o Impress? Thanks.
[21:56] <apparle> she_dyed: you there?
[21:56] <darkmist> oly562: and so I dont want 2 different versions running on my ubuntu system
[21:57] <oly562> darkmist: what is eclipse? what does it do
[21:57] <bfinch> nightwalk, however I did comment on rpm's devs not including needed features that actually work (like rollback)
[21:57] <etheretic1> bfinch: have a hunch amule may be a bit hard on hd's.
[21:57] <oly562> darkmist: remove them both and install one. start from scratch
[21:57] <she_dyed> apparle: yes...also looking
[21:57] <nightwalk> perseus: I have my own repo, because even with add-ons like rpmfusion, some important packages get missed
[21:57] <Angelov> nightwalk: I will sent ou link with pic to see If I am doing everytnig rigth
[21:57] <darkmist> oly562: eclipse is a programming ide
[21:57] <apparle> she_dyed: ohh
[21:57] <bfinch> etheretic1, well.... if you are doing something that looses data in eth3, i would suggest you examine THAT ...
[21:57] <oly562>  sudo aptitude remove javawhatever java2whatever
[21:57] <oly562> darkmist: sounds more advanced, i would have to much with it to get it to work by my own hand lol
[21:57] <oly562> good luck
[21:58] <perseus> nightwalk .. okok :P m new to all this ... lol
[21:58] <etheretic1> bfinch: are there any gui recovery programs?
[21:58] <darkmist> oly562: ok .. shd try removing both java versions then
[21:58] <perseus> nightwalk for me apt-get install is enuf
[21:58] <nightwalk> bfinch: I'm not sure that's correct. At least, not from the rpm5.org branch (the one mandriva uses)
[21:58] <oly562> darkmist: also, dont confuse plugins with programs, as this is confusing
[21:58] <oly562> darkmist: i would
[21:58] <oly562> kill them all!
[21:58] <VCoolio> etheretic1: I saw some on gnomefiles.org but never used them
[21:59] <darkmist> oly562: thanks
[21:59] <Ichat> Swian, i like gnome also on my   dualcore  turion x64 notebook with 2gb ram and on my   triple-core  desktop with  6gb ram.   hell  i want nothing but gnome.  - but on a old p4 subnotebook (dell 110L)  and an acer 10inc netbook  (both 1gb ram )  i rather have sothing that is more light and uses as little resources as possible.
[21:59] <oly562> anyone run into the "hula" 64bit issue and solved it ?
[21:59] <nightwalk> perseus: 'apt-get install' is kind of a pain sometimes, too. I can't just do something like 'apt-get install *ffi*' and have it work. Instead, I have to find more specific names to install.
[21:59] <Kedare> Hello, I have a little problem, I have reinstalled Windows after ubuntu (on a different partition), and i can't reinstall grub2, it looks like the guide to do that don't works if we have a separate /boot partition... :(
[21:59] <Angelov> nightwish: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kallc/5111461673/
[21:59] <bfinch> etheretic1, dunno....as i don't have them as i don't need them
[22:00] <cjc2010> Hello please can I ask how to get a list of email from the command line in UNE 10.04
[22:00] <perseus> nightwalk yeah true .. i get headaches when i have to install specific stuffs like some libs .... the names are all crazy with what not in the prefix
[22:00] <guntbert> nightwalk: please get back to on topic talk
[22:00] <nightwalk> perseus: ...and even with ppa's on launchpad, there's *still* things that are allowed to get hopelessly ancient for lack of updates
[22:00] <Kedare> when I do that what is shown on the guide, I get the minimal grub shell at boot
[22:00] <oly562> so whats the diff between apt-get and aptitude, seems like aptitude works a little better at some installs
[22:00] <k5673> nightwalk: use the apt-cache search "tha_package" and apt-get install "specific name of the package"
[22:00] <etheretic1> bfinch: s'like a spare tire - you don't know u needed one until...
[22:00] <oly562> cmdline i mean
[22:00] <oly562> access to more sources?
[22:00] <ikonia> oly562: they are just different front ends to dpkg
[22:00] <nightwalk> guntbert: it *is* on topic. It's apt-get, which ubuntu uses, does it not?
[22:00] <steevo> Kedare:the simple solution is to reinstall a linux with grub. triple boot. or you can just reinstall grub with a handy guide from google
[22:00] <VCoolio> oly562: different handling of dependencies and aptitude has a cli frontend
[22:00] <oly562> ikonia: k
[22:00] <apparle> she_dyed: this seems to be the way to automatic login and startx, how to trigger enna while starting x?
[22:00] <blakkheim> oly562: aptitude handles dependencies better and keeps things cleaner
[22:01] <ikonia> oly562: no, there is no difference, they can only use the same things as dpkg
[22:01] <apparle> she_dyed: http://it.dennyhalim.com/2008/10/linux-automatic-login-startx-and.html
[22:01] <Angelov> nightwalk:http://www.flickr.com/photos/kallc/5111461673/
[22:01] <bfinch> nightwalk you might like the wrapper script for pacman.... yaourt installs from either source or binary (automagically) ANYTHING it can find in repos AND it uses **regx** so you can search like you woudl like for packages