[19:45] <_Rha7_> Hi every1, I have 2 net interfaces, eth0 is external, with its default gateway, the second is internal eth1, and has it's own gateway, (both are set up static), when I add 'gateway 10.150.x.x' to eth1, I end up with two default gateways and ubuntu just gets messed up with external connections ... Ho can I fix it?
[19:45] <omnen> Hiemanshu: well as i notice, the extended thingy cant be resized, the sda6 cant be resized beyond the extended thing, im pretty much screwed...
[19:45] <Lichte> Hiemanshu, ah, so search there ?
[19:45] <Hiemanshu> Lichte, you want to decrease the size of text?
[19:45] <mrwes> Hiemanshu> Lichte, its a ubuntu support forum ?
[19:46] <Lichte> Hiemanshu, yes
[19:46] <darthanubis> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_910_alpha1&num=1
[19:46] <Hiemanshu> omnen, yes thats what i am trying to tell
[19:46] <Lichte> Hiemanshu, just in the print out though
[19:46] <Lichte> Hiemanshu, it looks great on screen and the print preview
[19:46] <omnen> Hiemanshu: well thanks for explaining the situation then
[19:46] <mad3linux> telequito, u need to give permission to mount the devices.
[19:47] <Sotbar7> uit]
[19:47] <Hiemanshu> gotta leave guys bye
[19:47] <Lichte> Hiemanshu, it only on the printed page that the text is too large to fit in the box and read
[19:47] <mad3linux> after u install the virtualbox, is created an archive of configuration
[19:47] <Lichte> anyone else know?
[19:47] <martin29> i've just installed an apache server in my home machine (ubuntu), and it seems to work... how do i make it accesible from the outside, now?
[19:48] <mad3linux> martin29, u need an valid IP....
[19:48] <mrwes> http://www.frys.com/product/5926614?site=frysecampaign <--- hrmm...nice lappy
[19:48] <Flannel> martin29: You'll need to set up port forwarding (80) on your router.  That's generally easiest done with the server having a static IP (on the subnet)
[19:48] <dooner> martin29: Too many variables.  But simple WAG would be port fwd port 80 to the internal machine assuming you are behind a NAT device.
[19:49] <Dexter_F> what sound system does 9.04 live use by default?
[19:49] <martin29> i already did that... just like i had forwarded the other ports for bittorrent
[19:49] <Dexter_F> how can i check? how disable?
[19:49] <GaveUp> dooner: so basically you're saying make that change, rebuild an iso and reburn it?
[19:49] <Dexter_F> uh, disable pulse that is
[19:49] <Flannel> martin29: then you should be OK.  Just access your public IP on http and you should see it.
[19:49] <dooner> GaveUp: you mean it isn't installing?
[19:49] <bc> yeah if they are in /etc/modules then you are good on the next boot
[19:50] <Dexter_F> ah, nvm its pulse
[19:50] <bc> yancho: yeah if they are in /etc/modules then you are good on the next boot
[19:50] <martin29> Flannel: i tried that, but i get my router's login page
[19:50] <GaveUp> dooner: right...hangs on booting the install cd
[19:50] <Jonaelmanco> sssssssssss
[19:51] <GaveUp> dooner: i realize i could pull the card, install, blacklist, and replace the card but that's not exactly a great solution
[19:51] <Flannel> martin29: That means its not forwarding properly (or... your router doesn't let you do that, which seems unlikely)
[19:51] <dooner> martin29:  are you attemping to get to it from your PC?
[19:51] <martin29> dooner: yep
[19:51] <ironfoot495> hi can someone help me figure out why when I activate compiz on 8.10 my screen crashes???
[19:51] <sacarlson> _Rha7_: I'm not sure you need two default gateways.  backup in case one fails?
[19:52] <martin29> dooner: should i try from a web proxy ?
[19:52] <dooner> martin29:  that probably won't work.
[19:52] <Wiktor> Hi
[19:52] <Wiktor> I have problem
[19:52] <ironfoot495> When I try to activate compiz driver I loose my screen?
[19:52] <FrankQC> Does anyone know how to get timestamps in Emesene
[19:53] <dooner> martin29: you can try from outside and see.
[19:53] <soluxione> #ubuntu-it
[19:53] <Canaman> has someone tried a Lexmark E330 with ubuntu. I tried a lot of drivers, but still not working..
[19:53] <ironfoot495> has anyone had this problem?
[19:53] <Guest61772> Becose sometimes when i using computer i cant click on anythink :/ Only keyboard work, and i can "fly" my cursor on the screen
[19:53] <dooner> GaveUp: yeah not elegant, but probably faster than rebuilding the iso
[19:54] <martin29> donner: i guess i should also allow port 80 in iptables, right?
[19:54] <dooner> martin29:  from inside the router might be confused with the hair pinning.
[19:54] <izzle> WooTe
[19:54] <Guest61772> Enyone know how i can repair it ??
[19:54] <dooner> martin29: you would need to if  you are blocking it currently :)
[19:54] <GaveUp> dooner: yeah...was hoping there was an flag that could be passed on boot ... guess i could grab a debian minimal iso and install that then repoint apt to ubuntu and upgrade...
[19:55] <Flannel> GaveUp: can't you just use the alternate CD?
[19:55] <martin29> dooner: i just did... is my computer like totally insecure right now?
[19:56] <dooner> GaveUp: yeah I not sure if you can do ti from the boot loader (never tried)
[19:57] <dooner> martin29:  well if you run a webserver connected to the public internet there is some level of insecurity. need to make sure all the scripts etc are secure..
[19:57] <Flannel> GaveUp: What's wrong with using the alternate CD?
[19:58] <TheFunkbomb> Why does Nexuiz Pro and OpenArena freeze up on me?
[19:58] <dooner> martin29:  hitting your ip with a browser bring up php proxy, is that what you where looking to do?
[19:58] <Guest61772> Hello :)
[19:58] <Guest61772> I have BIG PROBLEM
[19:58] <`brandon`> how do i know witch type of ubuntu i am running like amd64 or i386
[19:58] <`brandon`> ?
[19:58] <martin29> donner: yes, that's it
[19:58] <martin29> dooner: i guess you already tried my ip  :)
[19:59] <davis> hello
[20:00] <davis> I was wondering if anyone has gotten Xvnc working with gdm login?
[20:00] <Guest61772> Sometimes i cang, click on anythinkk, somethink like linux stop responding, buy with keyboard i can do anything.
[20:00] <Guest61772> Anyone can help ?
[20:01] <dooner> `brandon`: uname -a
[20:01] <`brandon`> !help | Guest61772
[20:01] <dooner> martin29:  yep already tried ..
[20:02] <nuno_nunes> Hi
[20:02] <nuno_nunes> Plz help
[20:02] <`brandon`> Dooner: what do i do with a .udeb file
[20:02] <Strife89> I accidentally installed the 32-bit version of Jaunty on a 64-bit machine. Is it possible to "upgrade" to the 64-bit OS without jeopardizing my setup? If so, what are the risks?
[20:02] <martin29> dooner: cool it works... i couldn't try it myself, but a friend helped
[20:02] <mg_> OK hello, I have sound issues I have tried comprehensive at the forum, not sure where i went wrong
[20:02] <martin29> dooner: thanks a lot
[20:02] <martin29> dooner: now, can i protect my homepage with a password ?
[20:03] <`brandon`> Dooner: btw i am trying to get mercurial
[20:03] <nuno_nunes> To configure this a compiz for intel i965 (X3100) on a linux ubuntu 9.04
[20:03] <dooner> martin29:  if running apache, just google for htaccess and you should be all set. for the password stuff
[20:03] <`brandon`> !mercurial : `brandon`
[20:03] <martin29> dooner: cool, thanks
[20:04] <`brandon`> !compiz : nuni_nunes
[20:04] <davis> Strife: if your /home is mounted on another drive that would save user data if  you don't format it on reinstall
[20:04] <Flannel> !compiz | nuno_nunes
[20:05] <nuno_nunes> This a grafical card is a work 2D
[20:05] <nuno_nunes> :S
[20:05] <dooner> `brandon`:  .udeb is stripped down .deb package,   gdebi  should be able to deal with it.
[20:05] <Strife89> davis: So I need to get another CD image?
[20:05] <vigo> Is Caldega a good thing or do I have to install windoze for it to work?
[20:05] <BLTnoTomato> ...
[20:05] <davis> Strife: I don't know for sure, but I imagine you'd have to reinstall, but I'm not sure
[20:05] <nuno_nunes> plz help this a download a drivers for intel i965
[20:06] <nuno_nunes> :S
[20:06] <mg_> I tried purging....lol now i am running xubuntu, which i kinda like
[20:06] <Strife89> davis: I'll keep looking then. :)
[20:06] <naadde> Hello! How do I update my ubuntu 8.04 to ubuntu 9.04 (no KDE please) I tried to google but no such luck
[20:06] <spence> naadde: i just did it an hour ago
[20:07] <naadde> spence: how :o
[20:07] <`brandon`> !compiz : nuno_nunes (Please read what the bot posts)
[20:07] <spence> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904 head to this page, download the .iso, burn that file to a disc
[20:07] <nuno_nunes> :S
[20:07] <Strife89> naadde: System -> Administration -> Update Manager
[20:07] <naadde> not possible to update from 8.04 to 9.04 with just update manager?
[20:07] <naadde> Strife89: ahh and what to do in the update manager?
[20:08] <nuno_nunes> i using this a linux ubuntu 9.04
[20:08] <`brandon`> naadde: yes
[20:08] <dooner> `brandon`: s/:/|/g :)
[20:08] <spence> i didn't know you could just upgrade, i was told in here it was a bad idea
[20:08] <`brandon`> update manager
[20:08] <Strife89> naadde: You have to upgrade to 8.10 first if you use that route; then you can upgrade to 9.04.
[20:08] <naadde> ok
[20:09] <Strife89> spence: I will admit that upgrading that way has more than its fair share of kinks.
[20:09] <vigo> nuno_nunes: I think the option is also in the Software Sources thing, System>Administration>Software Sources...
[20:09] <davis> anyone have Xvnc working to do remote gdm login?
[20:09] <`brandon`> how do i run mercurial?
[20:09] <Strife89> From my experience, at least.
[20:09] <Shadow_Sam> hi all  - why this is happen? http://www.mibbit.com/pb/JwwIii - when I open nautilus using gksu and try it to connect a server, the combo type of services is empty. when I run nautilus as my user, it's ok. the combo has various services... ssh, ftp etc...
[20:10] <mg_> anyone have any advice on how to fix sound, or where i could go?
[20:10] <Spielkind> exit
[20:10] <Spielkind> logout
[20:10] <vigo> mg_: Do you have Pulse installed?
[20:11] <mg_> no i dont think so
[20:11] <dooner> `brandon`: hg iirc, but am more of a git user myself
[20:11] <vigo> mg_: That might be the error, Pulse along with Alsa work.
[20:11] <`brandon`> hg iirc?
[20:11] <`brandon`> ah thank you
[20:11] <mg_> vigo command line?
[20:12] <dooner> `brandon`:  the mercurial program is hg.   iirc = If I recall Correctly :)
[20:12] <vigo> mg_: Not really, it is in Synaptics Package Manager
[20:12] <mg_> vigo ok thanks i will try
[20:13] <vigo> mg_: okee dokee, I had the same error, worked it out with Pulse
[20:14] <GaveUp> Flannel: that was my next try...just haven't gotten around to it
[20:15] <`brandon`> Dooner: http://paste.ubuntu.com/173199/ why am i getting this error do you know?
[20:15] <Flannel> GaveUp: It should install with no trouble
[20:16] <MeXTux> I'm trying to install a command line system (without desktop) using the Ubuntu 8.04.2 alternate disc but when it boots I don't see the "Install a command-line system" option. Any idea??
[20:16] <mg_> can't find Pulse in synaptic, maybe i need to download it?
[20:16] <Flannel> MeXTux: hit f4 or f5, there's more options (I don't remember which), one of which is "Command line only system"
[20:17] <vigo> mg_: let me look a sec,,,
[20:17] <MeXTux> ohhh ok Thanks, pal :)
[20:17] <mg_> vigo I am running xubuntu since last night....by accident
[20:17] <grkgeek> Hello I have been trying to find out how to make a prog autorun at startup which requires root priviledges
[20:18] <mg_> vigo which will tell you something about my comp skills
[20:18] <grkgeek> without me writing pass all the time that is
[20:18] <Flannel> !bum | grkgeek
[20:18] <vigo> mg_: 9.04?
[20:18] <dooner> `brandon`: no idea really sorry.. maybe the mercurial server is having issues?  503 is the http error code for service unavailable  appears to be server side.
[20:18] <bob__> does anyone know what i need to use to burn music cds?
[20:18] <mg_> vigo dapper
[20:19] <vigo> mg_: ok
[20:19] <ejv> bob__: k3b
[20:19] <davis> bob: brasereo or gnomebaker
[20:19] <bob__> so whats the install command?
[20:19] <davis> bob: u running gnome or kde?
[20:19] <bob__> gnome
[20:20] <ejv> you can use k3b under gnome :p
[20:20] <davis> bob: brasero should be installed by default
[20:20] <mg_> vigo if I upgrade maybe it will solve some problems?
[20:20] <mg_> vigo most willing to do so
[20:20] <davis> mg: true :)
[20:20] <dooner> grkgeek: you want it to run when you login? or when computer boots?
[20:20] <_Rha7_> sacarlson, actually I needed to add 'up route add blah blah' and 'down route del blah blah' to /etc/network/interfaces :) Thanks Anyway
[20:20] <unko> hey can someone help me? what im trying to do is make a custom launcher that emulates key strokes. im basicaly trying to make a launcher that emulates the key combination: shift, alt, and Z. im trying to make it activate the expo plugin in compiz
[20:21] <dassouki> my max ubuntu volume is less than my vista one. Is there a reason for that ?
[20:21] <`brandon`> Okay it is done but i do not know where to find the file at can someone help me out please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/173200/
[20:21] <Itaku> does anyone have windows 7 and/or know how to install ubuntu from windows 7 using the same technique as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows does? (theres no boot.ini in windows 7)
[20:21] <mg_> leaning towards upgrade, will my settings be saved?
[20:21] <shivraj_> hi I use debian before and whenever I plug in my camera it finds it automatically
[20:21] <shivraj_> what packages do I have to install to get this ?
[20:21] <shivraj_> I tried gtkam, gphoto2 .. no luck
[20:22] <vigo> mg_: That looks like the solution
[20:22] <mg_> vigo ok thanks for your help
[20:22] <unko>  hey can someone help me? what im trying to do is make a custom launcher that emulates key strokes. im basicaly trying to make a launcher that emulates the key combination: shift, alt, and Z. im trying to make it activate the expo plugin in compiz
[20:23] <vancouver> hi to all. I have a boot question: on drive 1 is openSUSE installed, grub is in the mbr installed. on the second drive is ubuntu installed. grub for ubuntu is on the root partition of drive2. when i try to boot ubuntu i always get the error-message: Error 13:Invalid or unsupported executable format.i also tried the map option in grub, without success.Does anybody know what the problem is?
[20:23] <vigo> mg_: 8.04 can handle it, but careful on upgrading, that is do not jump releases,ie. 7.8.9
[20:23] <mg_> vigo OK i will look for 8.04
[20:24] <Enissay> I'm using UberScript for XChat, when trying to slap someone i got this "Usage: TIMER [-refnum <num>] [-repeat <num>] <seconds> <command>"... how to use it please?
[20:24] <vigo> mg_: Just download the iso and do a clean install, backup your personal settings and documents, and such.
[20:25] <mg_> vigo sourceforge?
[20:25] <vigo> mg_: No, get it from Ubuntu
[20:25] <WageofSin> Hello
[20:25] <WageofSin> test
[20:25] <WageofSin> test
[20:25] <Decepticon> test failed!
[20:25] <FloodBot1> WageofSin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:25] <mg_> vigo thanks off I go,
[20:25] <Decepticon> test failed!
[20:25] <WageofSin> sorry
[20:26] <vigo> mg_: have fun! see you in 20mins or so
[20:26] <unko> so anyone know how to make a command that emulates key strokes? i wanna create a icon that launches my widget layer and my expo plugin...
[20:27] <IcemanV9> unko: system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[20:27] <vigo> unko: There is a GUI thing for or that can maybe do that.
[20:27] <unko> IcemanV9, no not like that.. i want a icon that i make a command in terminal to do it
[20:28] <davis> unko: I would google for a command to send keystrokes, then just make the launcher run it with whatever options needed
[20:28] <vigo> unko: Preferences>Keyboard, I had to use that to make a IceCat launcher.
[20:28] <unko> wait... lemme rephrase this.. i want a command that when i enter it makes a key stroke..
[20:29] <unko> ok thanks guys ill look at that :P
[20:29] <kandjar> hey there
[20:29] <felix_> hi i have a problem running debootstrap. i get this error, during a mirror update::: >> I: Extracting zlib1g...W: Failure trying to run: chroot /esclavo/repository/tmp/hardy-i386 /sbin/ldconfig
[20:30] <kandjar> stupid question: is there a way to generate the WEP Hex key from the passphrase?
[20:30] <sacarlson> unko: take a look at the packages wmctrl and xautomation they have the function xte that can send key strocks and wmctrl to set focus on the window you want to send them to.
[20:30] <lstarnes> felix_: you might need to use sudo for that
[20:30] <felix_> lstarnes, im root
[20:30] <lstarnes> felix_: using sudo?
[20:31] <felix_> lstarnes, sudo su turned me to root
[20:31] <unko> sacarlson, what im trying to do is make a launcher that when i click on it, it launches my widget layer. but in order to do that i need a cammand that simluates key strokes
[20:31] <lstarnes> felix_: it might be safer to use sudo -i.  Do you get any additional messages?
[20:31] <sysdoc> I just installed Ubuntustudio over an existing Ubuntu Desktop install. Of course, X breaks at boot, with the nvidia 173 drivers installed from the repos, will I be able to reconfig X using nvidia-config for the new kernel?
[20:32] <felix_> lstarnes, no
[20:32] <sacarlson> unko: xte does that
[20:32] <unko> sacarlson, really?
[20:32] <sacarlson> unko: yes
[20:32] <CiPHER_> Anyone know a remedy for jumping mouse in jaunty?
[20:32] <unko> sacarlson,  i don't see the package..
[20:33] <cemunal> if i don't install my screen driver; the screen is slided right; how can i fix it?
[20:33] <blck> good evening
[20:33] <ian_mac> CiPHER - tape a rock to the top of your mouse
[20:33] <sysdoc> lol
[20:34] <blck> well how do I get fglrx working via HAL? See my problem is that the normal fglrx Instllation ends with a blackscreen
[20:34] <_Rha7_> unko, use xvkbd, like xvkbd -xsendevent -text "\Ca"
[20:34] <sacarlson> unko: package is xautomation
[20:34] <_Rha7_> unko, that's a Ctrl+A
[20:35] <yaris123456789> when wget -r works, is it checking the downloaded copy whether its already downloaded that URL ? or is everything done in memory. so as wget -r is working , what if i was to delete random downloaded files. would this make wget -r redownload these deleted files ?
[20:35] <unko> _Rha7_, can i talk to you in private?
[20:35] <_Rha7_> unko, sure
[20:35] <glitsj16> unko: if the widget layer you're refering to is the compiz one, that has keyboard/mouse activation built-in, yet another option
[20:36] <CiPHER_> Can someone PLEASE help me fix an issue with ps2 mouse in jaunty?
[20:38] <ranf> kandjar, echo xxx | od -x
[20:39] <ranf> kandjar, check "man od" I'm not sure about -x
[20:40] <lucax> is anyone here using gnome-globalmenu with firefox?
[20:41] <glitsj16> lucax: when i looked into gnome-globalmenu some time ago, it specifically mentioned firefox as one of the applications that were not supported ... have you checked if that is now supported by gnome-globalmenu ?
[20:41] <evanrmurphy> I'm having trouble getting FireGPG to work with Gmail. Every time I attempt to sign and encrypt an email, I get the error message "Signing and encryption failed." after entering my private key password. Any suggestions?
[20:42] <evanrmurphy> I've tried reinstalling the FireGPG add-on with the same results.
[20:42] <boringpackets> howcome aircrack-ng, aireplay-ng, airodump and airmon-ng are NOT in the ubuntu repositories?
[20:42] <boringpackets> that really disappoints me
[20:43] <lstarnes> boringpackets: possiblty for legal reasons
[20:43] <SiDi> p   aircrack-ng                     - wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities
[20:43] <lucax> glitsj16: nope they say it isnt, but ive seen some pictures of ubuntu users with globalmenu on and firefox runin on it quite well... but just pics none said how they did it... i found some fix for hackin firefox and loading it as if it was a gtk app.... ive tried it but didnt work for me
[20:43] <SiDi> !info aircrack-ng
[20:43] <SiDi> boringpackets: see above
[20:43] <SiDi> !universe | boringpackets
[20:43] <boringpackets> Ah, my mistake.
[20:43] <lstarnes> boringpackets: you do need the universe repo for those packages
[20:43] <boringpackets> I'll uncomment it
[20:43] <boringpackets> Sorry!
[20:44] <SiDi> boringpackets: only this one is there though :P
[20:44] <shadow__> what do I need to down load to get any movie I want to run on ubuntu
[20:44] <SiDi> !restricted | shadow__
[20:45] <IcemanV9> shadow__: use totem (already installed) to run movie to start with
[20:45] <shadow__> sidi how and where do I get it
[20:45] <glitsj16> lucax: i see ... perhaps the gtk-fix for firefox relies on the removal of firefox-branding, can't say i know for a fact
[20:45] <henux> hi. i have ubuntu 9.04 with encrypted home dir. now i happen to need to rename my username from foo to baz. how would i do this feat?
[20:45] <angry> is there any yahoomessenger client with webcam support?
[20:45] <s0l1dsnak3123> Hey, I have a friend who I am interviewing after he has used ubuntu for 6 months, are there any questions you'd like me to ask him?
[20:45] <boringpackets> angry gyachE
[20:45] <djbatton> добрый день
[20:45] <henux> i tried sudo usermod -m -d /home/baz -l baz foo
[20:45] <Sloshy> angry: on linux, no. I don't think so.
[20:45] <henux> it worked but however next time i logged in, i got the default dummy home dir with a readme file explaining that i needed to do ecryptfs-mount-private, which i did but it didnt work
[20:45] <SiDi> shadow__: by default totem (the video player) will offer you to download the missing codecs. You can also use VLC which supports almost everything
[20:46] <boringpackets> sloshy gyache has all the features, including webcam support
[20:46] <djbatton> по русски тут говорят?
[20:46] <Pici> !ru | djbatton
[20:46] <evanrmurphy> Is this an appropriate channel to ask my question about FireGPG?
[20:46] <henux> the passphrase was asked from me, which i entered, but it said failed
[20:46] <shadow__> ok thanks
[20:46] <boringpackets> additionally, Kopete has webcam support under the yahoo protocol, though chat isnt supported
[20:46] <Sloshy> boringpackets: seriously? /me googles gyache
[20:46] <leigh> i have a problem w/ brasero install...can someone please help?  thanks!
[20:46] <boringpackets> sloshy yes, but it can be difficult to find the right one, i think the latest is 1.1.7x
[20:46] <boringpackets> but the sourceforge page lists 1.0
[20:47] <Sloshy> brb
[20:47] <Lykkefeen> What is the correct way to hide old kernel versions from the grublist when booting?
[20:47] <SiDi> evanrmurphy: maybe #mozilla ? i dont know if they can proviide help for plugins though
[20:47] <Xcell> My exit url jpg says it all...enjoy ubuntu.
[20:47] <evanrmurphy> SiDi: Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
[20:47] <Slart> Lykkefeen: set the "number of kernels to show" variable..
[20:47] <SiDi> evanrmurphy: i personally pick the encrypted text and put it in a file, and then i use gpg --armor nameoffile ~ if it can be of any help
[20:47] <boringpackets> you're in luck too sloshy, because they just implemented gstreamer into gyache for additional support for v4l1/2 devices
[20:47] <Slart> Lykkefeen: I don't really remember what it's called.. but I can't imagine it would be hard to identify if you look through the menu.lst
[20:48] <Sloshy> boringpackets: nice!
[20:48] <Lykkefeen> Slart: Should I set it to 1 or is it using any weird notation? :)
[20:48] <Slart> Lykkefeen: of course you could also just uninstall the older kernels.. unless you really need tham
[20:48] <leigh> i had brasero installed (ubuntu 8.04) and have used it with no problems...i booted my box today and it is not installed anymore, and attempting to install it through repositories fails...can somone help me please?
[20:48] <Slart> Lykkefeen: nothing weird.. 1.. or perhaps 2.. just so you can select an earlier kernel if you really want to
[20:48] <evanrmurphy> SiDi: It looks like #mozilla is an invite-only channel, but I'll try your way.
[20:48] <solexious> How can I change sound settings for amarok in ubuntu?
[20:49] <Slart> Lykkefeen: don't forget to run "sudo update-grub" when you're finished.. or it won't stick
[20:49] <Lykkefeen> Slart: I never use old kernels - do you know how to uninstall them? I like to keep things simple :)
[20:49] <Slart> Lykkefeen: apt-get remove or look in synaptic
[20:49] <SiDi> evanrmurphy: #firefox then sorry ;)
[20:49] <guntbert> s0l1dsnak3123: please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel here is strictly for support
[20:50] <s0l1dsnak3123> terribly sorry, will do :)
[20:50] <Lykkefeen> Slart: Do you know what I should look/search for @ synaptic?
[20:51] <Slart> Lykkefeen: the kernel packages are called "linux-image
[20:51] <Slart> Lykkefeen: the kernel packages are called linux-image bla bla bla
[20:52] <leigh> i had brasero installed (ubuntu 8.04) and have used it with no problems...i booted my box today and it is not installed anymore, and attempting to install it through repositories fails...can somone help me please?
[20:52] <The-Compiler> Hi there, got these lines for mpd, how can add this device to pulseaudio? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/117478/
[20:52] <Slart> Lykkefeen:  you can click "status" and select "installed".. that will only show installed packages
[20:52] <crowbar> Anyone able to get the jde package working with emacs?  I can't get it to use ant as the jde-build-function.
[20:53] <Lykkefeen> Slart: Thanks for all the advices - just one quick one: is there any risk in deleting them? I never boot using the old kernels anyway...
[20:54] <Lykkefeen> Slart: Oh and should I use complete removal? I probably not going to install old kernels later... :)
[20:54] <Slart> Lykkefeen: nah.. as long as you have a working kernel installed there is no reason to keep the old ones
[20:54] <Slart> Lykkefeen: complete removal is good
[20:54] <IcemanV9> Lykkefeen: you should have one backup kernel in case of the current kernel doesn't work
[20:54] <Slart> Lykkefeen: I don't think it will remove the grub entries if you just remove it normally
[20:55] <evert> should i have audio on a 9.04 live cd? (only having one device visible, playback: null output (pulse)
[20:55] <evert> or is it a sign audio isn't working on that computer with that kernel?
[20:55] <blck> how must I configure fglrx, when I have to grafik accelerator?
[20:56] <ienorand> evert: sound should work on live yes, so there might be a poroblem indication...
[20:56] <pedahzur> I recently upgraded to 9.04, and now when I telnet to another server (in a Konsole session) and run Midnight Commander, all the characters that are supposed to be "lines" are now funny letter a's with ^ over them.  Is this a font or encoding issue?
[20:56] <evert> ienorand: ok, damn, it's not my laptop but i was thinking about reinstall since there is no audio with installed version
[20:57] <pedahzur> excuse me...ssh to another host...not telnet...sigh
[20:58] <ienorand> evert: look in forums/launchpad for your soundcard, see if solutions exist..
[20:58] <dooner> pedahzur: sounds like the emulation on your terminal is set to something odd
[20:58] <dooner> pedahzur: ie not vt100/vt220.  (but that is a  guess... )
[20:58] <evert> ienorand: it's a intel ich8 hd audio controller, afaik quite mainstream
[20:59] <shivraj_> whats the name of the driver for intel in xorg ?
[21:00] <CiPHER_> Can someone PLEASE help me fix an issue with ps2 mouse in jaunty?
[21:00] <KyleK> is it possible to privately mirror just jaunty?
[21:00] <Flannel> shivraj_: xserver-xorg-video-intel
[21:00] <mouseclone> Is there an advanced support channel? I'm trying to get my AD users to be a part of local groups.
[21:00] <Flannel> KyleK: Of course
[21:01] <tdi> hi ive got question about bug reporting. my bluettoth module does not work on jaunty, it is up as device, but scanning does not show any devices around. where should i file this bug?
[21:01] <shivraj_> Flannel: so its just "intel" right ? Im getting nasty colors on an IBM T60 ... should look better
[21:01] <mouseclone> tdi: have you made sure that you bluetooth device that you are looking for is discoverable?
[21:02] <unko> anyone here good with shell commands? i want one that launches expo (from compiz)
[21:02] <shivraj_> and the intel driver is suppost to be one of the best ...
[21:02] <Lykkefeen> When updating my kernel version it somehow removed my windows partition from the grub menu.lst - is there any way to automaticly detecting that partition and adding it back to the menu.lst?
[21:02] <The-Compiler> !ask | unko
[21:02] <leigh> i had brasero installed (ubuntu 8.04) and have used it with no problems...i booted my box today and it is not installed anymore, and attempting to install it through repositories fails...can somone help me please?
[21:02] <genii> KyleK: apt-mirror works well. But depending on which sections of the repository you will mirror, reserve quite a lot of hd space. In the neighbourhood of 35-40Gb
[21:02] <tdi> mouseclone: yes ofc, i tried on seveeral of them, it worked on 8.10
[21:02] <samuele> hi
[21:02] <unko> The-Compiler, ???
[21:02] <Flannel> shivraj_: there's also an -i810 -i740, instead of -intel.
[21:03] <dooner> unko: look for xmacro, I think it might do what you want.
[21:03] <The-Compiler> unko: as you may see that triggered a bot which told you to simply ask.
[21:03] <tdi> mouseclone: maybe i ask the question on ubuntu-bugs
[21:03] <mouseclone> tdi: ok I just wanted to make sure
[21:03] <mouseclone> !bug
[21:03] <unko> The-Compiler, i did ask?
[21:03] <unko> dooner, no, i want a shell command
[21:04] <Flannel> Lykkefeen: If you put it in the wrong place, it will get overwritten.  Make sure you put it either before or after the ## (BEGIN/END) DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNEL lines
[21:04] <pedahzur> dooner: Hmm...Didn't seem to be the issue. Ah well.
[21:04] <mouseclone> tdi: also you can try installing that jaunty backports, I'm not sure if that will help you though
[21:04] <e_fp_e> hi all
[21:04] <tdi> mouseclone: yes i know where, but i am not sure which component causes that, kernel, bluez or what. what is the category for it?
[21:04] <felix_> he is the command" W: Failure trying to run: chroot /esclavo/repository/tmp/hardy-i386 dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_4.0.1ubuntu5_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.16_i386.deb"
[21:04] <dooner> unko: well xmacroplay can be used to send keystrokes isn't  that what you where trying to do?
[21:04] <The-Compiler> hmm okay, nevermind, unko :D
[21:04] <felix_> lstarnes,  here is the command" W: Failure trying to run: chroot /esclavo/repository/tmp/hardy-i386 dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_4.0.1ubuntu5_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.16_i386.deb"
[21:04] <unko> The-Compiler, :P
[21:05] <BigMoopies> is the dell version of ubuntu , http://linux.dell.com/files/ubuntu/jaunty/iso-images/ubuntu-9.04-dell-reinstall.iso ?
[21:05] <ienorand> evert: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/354398 maybe?
[21:05] <unko> dooner, not really.. im trying to make a icon that launches a script wich launches the expo plugin. someone gave me the script to launch the widgetlayer but he left now..
[21:06] <BigMoopies> or do I even need the dell version to install on a Dell?
[21:06] <Lykkefeen> Flannel: Just to be sure - I should not put the code for my windows partition inside the DEBIAN AUTOMATIC KERNEL section, right?
[21:06] <IcemanV9> unko: copy that script and modify it to launch expo
[21:06] <ienorand> BigMoopies: almost, they've removed the codecs and other potentially illegal-if-distributed-freely things...
[21:06] <leigh> i have a couple problems, first when i boot my laptop when plugged in it attempts to run disk check and fails almost immediately, saying it's a read only file system...does anyone know what is causing this?
[21:06] <Flannel> Lykkefeen: correct.  Put it before the first one, or after the second one.
[21:07] <BigMoopies> ienorand: would I have better chance of it working with my hardware?
[21:07] <BigMoopies> ienorand: a better chance
[21:07] <unspin_> would someone recommend a good GUI serial interface program (gnome or kde)?
[21:07] <sacarlson> unko: package xautomation  the command xte  example xte abc    sends abc   xte  Control_L x   sends ctl x
[21:07] <Trev_> huh
[21:07] <Trev_> Where are the nicks at o.o
[21:07] <DreadKnight> Hello! I'm founder of FreezingMoon (www.FreezingMoon.org); we're a non-profit organization developing free open source games (crossplatform). Looking for some bloggers willing to help us a bit by writting an article about us and our projects. Thanks!
[21:08] <guntbert> DreadKnight: not here please
[21:08] <eseven73> spammer!
[21:08] <ienorand> BigMoopies: It might contain some specific versions of drivers or configurations, possibly likelyer to work out of the box, I don't know what the changes are though.
[21:08] <Lykkefeen> !pastebin
[21:08] <BigMoopies> ienorand: I have a NIC that doesn't want to work right since Hardy with the normal disks.
[21:08] <IcemanV9> DreadKnight: you cannot advertise here, but you can in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:09] <DreadKnight> chill out dudes? trying to solve an issue for ubuntu/linux otherwise it won't be taken seriously for the desktop; i'm not advertising/selling stuff :P
[21:09] <Lykkefeen> Flannel: But what code should I use? Like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/173226/
[21:09] <leigh> i have a couple problems, first when i boot my laptop when plugged in it attempts to run disk check and fails almost immediately, saying it's a read only file system...does anyone know what is causing this?
[21:09] <BigMoopies> ienorand: could I find out what was changed in the 'module' or 'driver' in hardy , as apposed to Intrepid and Jaunty to revert back to it?
[21:10] <ManDay> Is this Freenode?
[21:10] <eseven73> yep
[21:10] <jrib> ManDay: yes
[21:10] <ManDay> k
[21:10] <ManDay> thx
[21:10] <`brandon`> !perl | Brandon
[21:11] <ManDay> Just beg your pardon for a stupid question but what would I need to play my m3u online stream with the rythmbox player?
[21:11] <BigMoopies> ienorand: or am I wasting my time on the dell disk, along with the orginals ?
[21:11] <guntbert> ManDay: are you using ubuntu?
[21:11] <ienorand> BigMoopies: might possibly be able to do that, I'm not sure how though... you might be able to grab the driver version from dell somehow...
[21:11] <ManDay> yeah, since recently
[21:12] <tones> ManDay: try "amarok", most people prefer t
[21:12] <tones> that
[21:12] <BigMoopies> ienorand: I think the module is e1000e and e1000 that my NIC uses
[21:12] <sacarlson> BigMoopies:  maybe you can just install the kernel that was running on the version that was working
[21:12] <ManDay> yeah well i ve used amarok while ago but i was trying just to get a long with the default stuff ffor ubuntu
[21:12] <ManDay> but thanks
[21:12] <ManDay> ill use amarok then
[21:12] <BigMoopies> ienorand/sacarlson: http://hardware4linux.info/component/34798/
[21:12] <WebcamWonder> Could someone explain the last 4 lines? http://pastebin.com/fa4caaf0
[21:12] <sevodnya> ManDay: also, you can use totem to do that easily, it's already installed
[21:12] <mouseclone> tdi: kernel/hardware I would assume
[21:12] <BigMoopies> sacarlson: how would  I go about trying that
[21:13] <Flannel> Lykkefeen: that looks about right, if your windows partition is the second one on the first disk.
[21:13] <ManDay> oh well, iirc i purged it :P
[21:13] <MeXTux> I want to install updates to my Ubuntu command line system. How can I do this since don't have a desktop (GUI) ??
[21:13] <ManDay> whats more "lightweigh" totem or amarok?
[21:13] <WebcamWonder> MeXTux: sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[21:13] <felix_> i have a problem running chroot: """root@felix-project:/home/felix/builder# chroot /esclavo/repository/tmp/hardy-i386 dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_4.0.1ubuntu5_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.16_i386.deb dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH. NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. root@felix-project:/home/felix/builder#
[21:13] <Flannel> MeXTux: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:13] <mouseclone> anyone know of a way to get an Active Directory authenicated user to be part of the local groups?
[21:14] <sevodnya> ManDay: totem is lighterweight in that it doesn't have music library functionality, it's just a simple media player
[21:14] <MeXTux> which is the difference between dist-upgrade and full-upgrade ?? :)
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> a dist-upgrade is a more.... enthusatic upgrade. :)
[21:14] <WebcamWonder> MeXTux: dist-upgrade is for apt-get, full-upgrade is for aptitude
[21:15] <Lykkefeen> Flannel: Thanks, of course my ubuntu partition has first priority ;-)
[21:15] <aemyr> it upgrades the package and all of it's dependecies
[21:15] <ManDay> allr ight sevodnya thx
[21:15] <Hedge|Hog> anyone that has any theories about SABnzbd+ running great in terminal but not opening in firefox? just get a connection failed message in ff =/ running jaunty
[21:16] <WebcamWonder> MeXTux: It has been the same for historical reasons
[21:16] <Brack10> Hey
[21:16] <sacarlson>  BigMoopies: see private message
[21:16] <Brack10> how can I tell what kind of wireless card I have for kismet?  hwinfo is wayyyyyy too verbose for me to actually find out what I have
[21:16] <aemyr> Brack10: lsusb; lspci; lshw
[21:16] <elli222> i have found a way of seemlessly toggling metacity compisiting before playing a game, and activating it afterwards...
[21:17] <WebcamWonder> Could someone explain the last 4 lines? http://pastebin.com/fa4caaf0
[21:17] <jorgerosa> hello
[21:17] <Flannel> WebcamWonder: sudo update-grub
[21:17] <ManDay> well well
[21:18] <Brack10> ok so I have an atheros which apparently isn't an acceptable source, but I know my driver will work since it goes into monitor mode no problem.....do I choose orinoco?>
[21:18] <WebcamWonder> Flannel: Well, update-grub ran fine.... would it have symlinked the images properly?
[21:18] <felix_> i have a problem running chroot: """root@felix-project:/home/felix/builder# chroot /esclavo/repository/tmp/hardy-i386 dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_4.0.1ubuntu5_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.16_i386.deb dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH. NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. root@felix-project:/home/felix/builder#
[21:18] <WebcamWonder> http://pastebin.com/f4604ed91
[21:18] <Flannel> WebcamWonder: update-grub doesn't really deal with those symlinks.  The next time you install a new kernel image, it'll update those links.
[21:18] <WebcamWonder> Flannel: ^^
[21:18] <sacarlson> WebcamWonder:  I think it's ok boot it
[21:18] <ManDay> aw man seriously im disappointed
[21:19] <lscott3> Anyone know of Dreamweaver alternatives?
[21:19] <owned> notepad
[21:19] <WebcamWonder> Flannel: Ah alright. And any reason why -11 was considered as no longer needed by apt? It is weird to see kernels being considered "no longer necessary" and automatically removed
[21:19] <Flannel> !html | lscott3
[21:19] <ManDay> i thought id get ubuntu on this laptop because its ready-to-go but it appears to be not that easy
[21:19] <owned> (gedit)
[21:19] <WebcamWonder> lscott3: NvU
[21:19] <hphubert> hi
[21:19] <bnovc> wow, this channel is getting very large. I was curious if Ubuntu had ever discussed having better organization of files (than the common linux layout)... I think it would be a lot better to have /apps/<name>/<all of their files> than /usr/lib/<foo> /usr/bin/<foo> and spread out across /var, etc. and /libs/<foo> and for config files, ~/.config/<rc name> would be vastly better. I know this would be a fairly substantial change and some/many packages would need up
[21:19] <ManDay> should it be a problem to play utube videos?
[21:19] <bnovc> ManDay: no
[21:20] <bnovc> and its youtube
[21:20] <ManDay> becaue after installing the required packages i have sound but video slips
[21:20] <Flannel> bnovc: That discussion would be best had in #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is solely for support (not discussion), thanks.
[21:20] <bnovc> what do you mean slips?
[21:20] <lscott3> Flannel: !html
[21:20] <usser> bnovc, no it wont be better.
[21:20] <bnovc> Flannel: will do, thanks
[21:20] <lscott3> !html
[21:20] <Pici> !brainstorm | bnovc also:
[21:20] <ManDay> well it just doesnt play properly. i have some frames but then i only have sound
[21:20] <pepperjack> ManDay: install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package. you need to be aware that for legal reasons some packages cannot be installed by default.
[21:20] <hphubert> i want see this comman what type other users
[21:20] <pepperjack> ManDay: the flash package you need specifically is flashplugin-nonfree
[21:20] <bnovc> Pici: thanks
[21:21] <soreme> ciao ragazzi
[21:21] <ManDay> ah ok
[21:21] <soreme> ubuntu non mi rileva le porte COM
[21:21] <ManDay> ill take a look pepperjack thx
[21:21] <soreme> ahem sorry
[21:21] <soreme> wrong channel
[21:21] <soreme> :)
[21:21] <Flannel> WebcamWonder: Well, I'm a bit curious as to why -11 was removed but not -7.  But, the autoremoval of old kernels is (apparently) something that was added recently.  It's to keep them from cluttering and taking up too much room.  I presume it has some rubrick of which were run successfully vs not.
[21:21] <ManDay> does synaptic pckgm automatically remove redundant packages?
[21:21] <francesco_cinier> ma come faccio ad impostare direttamente ubuntu.it quando entro qui?
[21:21] <ManDay> e.g. remove the old flash package if i insstall nonfree?
[21:22] <Pici> francesco_cinier: #ubuntu-it, you've been told this many times.
[21:22] <salvo> ciao
[21:22] <Pici> !it
[21:22] <WebcamWonder> Flannel: Yeah, you are right. -7 is still installed on this PC, and -11 was recommended to be removed... interesting
[21:22] <xiong> noob question -- still having trouble with this -- where do i put applications (that is, those that are not automatically installed by synaptic)? -- /lib? /bin?
[21:23] <Flannel> WebcamWonder: I'm not sure how it makes that decision.  It's an apt configuration thing as far as I'm aware.
[21:23] <sevodnya> xiong: are you compiling this application yourself? if not, how have you obtained it?
[21:23] <register> hi u there
[21:23] <ManDay> im sorry im not able to find "flashplugin-nonfree" with synaptic
[21:23] <DivineOmega> I'm having a problem with Ubuntu 9.04 server on the Fit-PC2. It will stop responding remotely every few minutes until a keyboard key is pressed at which point it will resume as if there was no problem.
[21:23] <felix_> i have a problem running chroot: """root@felix-project:/home/felix/builder# chroot /esclavo/repository/tmp/hardy-i386 dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_4.0.1ubuntu5_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.16_i386.deb dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH.     ( No CIDSupplement specified )
[21:24] <ManDay> im sorry im not able to find "flashplugin-nonfree" with synaptic
[21:24] <sevodnya> ManDay: you may need to enable the multiverse repositories in System > Administration > Software Sources
[21:25] <ManDay> oh thx
[21:25] <mchelen> xiong, id recommend installing open world viewer repository
[21:25] <DivineOmega> I'm having a problem with Ubuntu 9.04 server on the Fit-PC2. It will stop responding remotely every few minutes until a keyboard key is pressed at which point it will resume as if there was no problem.
[21:25] <ManDay> im new to ubuntu, u know
[21:25] <IcemanV9> xiong: you'll need to modify the preference of Firefox as to where to store the downloaded file(s)
[21:25] <xiong> Guest59229, sorry but 'anywhere' is not, i think, a real good answer -- it seems to me that everything is 'supposed' to be somewhere -- i don't want to do anything too creative
[21:25] <nmvictor> felix_:i dont think you really came out clearly regarding your problem
[21:25] <dirtbag666> In apps such as Inkscape, Okular and Gwenview, there are annoying artifacts when zooming, scrolling or skipping to the next picture. Any ideas?
[21:26] <sevodnya> xiong: is the application in question a binary?
[21:26] <mchelen> xiong, err meant to say open metaverse viewer http://omvviewer.byteme.org.uk/ubuntu_binary.shtml
[21:26] <felix_> nmvictor, im trying to run builder scripts to do a hardy based distro. fails at this point. the command attempted to run is """i have a problem running chroot: """root@felix-project:/home/felix/builder# chroot /esclavo/repository/tmp/hardy-i386 dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_4.0.1ubuntu5_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.16_i386.deb dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found o
[21:26] <felix_> n PATH. NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. root@felix-project:/home/felix/builder# ""
[21:26] <FloridaGuy> what does this mean.....    ( No CIDSupplement specified )
[21:26] <xiong> okay, mchelen, IcemanV9, maybe good advice but for today, i just have set myself the simple goal of moving this folder off the desktop and into where it 'should' go
[21:27] <sevodnya> FloridaGuy: where do you see this?
[21:27] <mchelen> xiong, it doesn't really matter where the file is
[21:27] <soreme> hi all, my ubuntu does not recognize COM ports (serials), why?
[21:27] <mchelen> as long as your user has access
[21:28] <pedahzur> FloridaGuy: Are you installing fonts?
[21:28] <FloridaGuy> sevodnya, frostwire was giving it to me...installing and uninstalling java...
[21:28] <izzle> soreme, you might need to probe a kernel module ....
[21:28] <xiong> sevodnya, i don't know how an application could be anything other than a binary executable -- i have a CS background but ubuntu is very new to me -- there is an entire folder of stuff downloaded from the second life website -- i have located the executable and made an alias for it in the applications menu, which works -- i just want to move the folder somewhere appropriate
[21:28] <soreme> izzle should i recompile the kernel then?
[21:28] <hphubert> i want see this comman what type other users
[21:28] <ManDay> sevodnya: thank u
[21:28] <izzle> soreme, not if you can just build a module
[21:28] <soreme> ah ok
[21:28] <izzle> soreme, the whole purpose of modules
[21:29] <sevodnya> xiong: what's in the folder?
[21:29] <FloridaGuy> pedahzur, no...just java and frostwire
[21:29] <soreme> sorry i am not very sklilled in technical things
[21:29] <soreme> *skilled
[21:29] <soreme> izzle yes ok
[21:29] <askand> Do I need a lost+found folder on my ext3 drive if only using it as /home?
[21:29] <xiong> mchelen, if it doesn't matter where files are, then can i please toss out this confusing structure and set it up my way? i don't think so -- i think this large number of folders at root is a basic feature of linux, and everything has its place
[21:29] <Flannel> askand: You don't need to create that folder, it's done automatically.
[21:29] <ManDay> sevodnya: Dsl but the problem remains. I installed flashplugin-nonfree via synaptic but the video still lacks
[21:29] <IcemanV9> xiong: you can put it in /usr/local/share if you like
[21:30] <izzle> soreme, i cant help you much because I do not have any com devices... though I recently setup a gameport based joystick and I'm sure the method is similar
[21:30] <mchelen> xiong, im talking only about second life executable, not the rest of the os :)
[21:30] <xiong> Sevodnya, i don't know how to answer that question without going into too much detail
[21:30] <ManDay> do i have to remove another package first or so?
[21:30] <pedahzur> FloridaGuy: I'm pretty sure that's a message about fonts...I'm pretty sure it can be ignored.
[21:30] <sevodnya> ManDay: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[21:30] <ManDay> its an eee pc
[21:30] <izzle> soreme, if you modprobe -l .. you might find there is one already
[21:30] <ManDay> in fact, i d/l the netbook version of ubuntu
[21:30] <soreme> izzle thank you anyone but i think i will try to focus on the italian channel, because it's more easy for me to follow the whole thing
[21:30] <ManDay> admitted, i messed a little with the packages before
[21:31] <soreme> izzle *anyway
[21:31] <soreme> not anyone LOL
[21:31] <ManDay> maybe i should reinstall the whole thing and stop messing  with it
[21:31] <soreme> :)
[21:31] <ManDay> its an intel graphics
[21:31] <xiong> there is actually a usr/local/share/applications folder -- put there?
[21:31] <ManDay> sevodnya:
[21:31] <RamsesII> eee pc = intel 945
[21:31] <ManDay> indeed
[21:31] <nmvictor> does some one know how to use ffmpeg at the terminal to convert .Dat files to .ogg/.avi?
[21:31] <RamsesII> that old one
[21:31] <ManDay> heh what?
[21:31] <ManDay> eee 1000h not THAT old
[21:31] <soreme> izzle I don't get any solution from the italian channel i will return here
[21:31] <soreme> thanks
[21:31] <soreme> *IF I
[21:31] <ajudd4u>  xiong: yes you can
[21:32] <soreme> izzle *IF I
[21:32] <xiong> mchelen, part of my frustration is that i can't tell how much of all this stuff is what -- according to my mindset, all files can be classed as system, application, or user document
[21:32] <Flannel> xiong: You put the binary in /usr/local/bin
[21:32] <sacarlson> ManDay: I have a eeepc 701 and installed easy-peasy it's a ubuntu dirivitive totaly works
[21:32] <sevodnya> xiong: from the looks of the website, the second life folks wrote it such that it *has* to be in a single folder, contrary to the general style of how linux is usually set up
[21:32] <amaurea> After upgrading to jaunty, the key repeat setting has startet affecting games in wine, which it did not use to do. I can remove the problem by turning off key-repeat, but that makes text editing unbearable, so have have to keep going into the settings to change this. is this a known problem? Is there any solution?
[21:32]  * soreme always forget to type some words LOL
[21:32] <IcemanV9> xiong: yes, usually 3rd pty app resides there
[21:32] <ManDay> i dlike to stiick with ubuntu vaniall for now sacarlson
[21:32] <xiong> okay i will throw the folder there
[21:32] <ManDay> sevodnya: any clue what could make the video hang?
[21:33] <Flannel> xiong: /usr/local/share/applications/ is where menu entries reside I believe.
[21:33] <Xpistos_> Hey
[21:33] <sevodnya> ManDay: it doesn't just lag, it actually gives up and goes black?
[21:33] <ManDay> is there a way to check whether firefox really applies the new flashnonfree or whether it still uses the old flash package?
[21:33] <xiong> that did not work because i don't have permissions
[21:33] <ajudd4u> xiong: then you can make a link to the program and put it in the bin folder that way you can execute it in the terminal
[21:33] <nmvictor> Xpistos_: hey
[21:33] <WebcamWonder> ManDay: about:plugins
[21:33] <kidko> For some reason, my exteranl USB drive isn't recognized when I boot with it plugged in... I have to plug it in *after* logging in for it to be used :( Anybody else have this problem/suggestions?
[21:33] <ManDay> it heavily lags, sevodnya
[21:33] <krispl> wersja 9.04 -przerwy w odtwarzaniu muzy to normalka?
[21:33] <xiong> why in the world would i *want* to do anything in the terminal??
[21:33] <ManDay> ill check that WebcamWonder
[21:33] <IcemanV9> ManDay: in url address, type about:plugins
[21:33] <tomkis_> Hi
[21:33] <Flannel> ajudd4u, xiong: Erm, no?  That's the wrong way to go about doing that.
[21:33] <guntbert> !pl | krispl
[21:34] <nmvictor> tomkis_:hi
[21:34] <ManDay> File name: libswfdecmozilla.so
[21:34] <ajudd4u> xiong: well you need to put it there anyways to make a link on the desktop or the menu because it needs a command
[21:34] <ManDay> Is that whats its meant to be? No?
[21:34] <xiong> ajudd4u, please, you're confusing me
[21:34] <ajudd4u> sorry
[21:34] <Flannel> xiong: What are you installing?
[21:34] <tomkis_> A jezeli rozszerzysz monitor (extended screen) to nie mozna odtwarzac zadnego video? Czy ktos to przerabial
[21:34] <ManDay>     File name: libswfdecmozilla.so   Shockwave Flash 9.0 r999 <--- thats not the nonfree flash is it?
[21:34] <xiong> i have already got it in the applications menu
[21:35] <tomkis_> Ubuntu 9.04
[21:35] <Flannel> tomkis_: Please speak english in this channel, thanks.
[21:35] <xiong> i only want to move the folder off the desktop -- it is sitting there
[21:35] <ajudd4u> xiong: will it boot from the application menu
[21:35] <mchelen> xiong, basically all the stuff in /home/username are the user files, since sl is 3rd party app it might go there as well
[21:35] <kidko> For some reason, my exteranl USB drive isn't recognized when I boot with it plugged in... I have to plug it in *after* logging in for it to be used. Any suggestions?
[21:35] <Flannel> xiong: Put it in ~/bin/
[21:35] <tomkis_> Ok, I just noticed one guy has spoken polish and has problem similar
[21:35] <xiong> mchelen, i don't want it in my own home (username) folder; that's for my documents
[21:36] <WebcamWonder> ManDay: That is non-free. Are you running Hardy?
[21:36] <FloridaGuy> http://pastebin.com/m7c53e960
[21:36] <ManDay> not that i new. whats hardy?
[21:36] <xiong> i'm finding this convo frustrating; i'd prefer to have one answer rather than several which disagree
[21:36] <mchelen> xiong, it used for all user files, including programs which are not installed to the system
[21:36] <nmvictor> kidko: is it listed in /etc/mtab?
[21:36] <Flannel> xiong: What are you installing?
[21:36] <kidko> nmvictor: No.
[21:36] <WebcamWonder> ManDay: What version of Ubuntu are you running? 8.04?
[21:36] <ManDay> 9.04 WebcamWonder
[21:36] <mchelen> xiong, and user config files, you can preface a directoy with a . to keep it hidden
[21:36] <ajudd4u> xiong:  well if you move it off the desktop it might not boot from the applications menu because the command is still pointing to the desktop
[21:36] <nmvictor> kidko: you gotta list it their,
[21:36] <tomkis_> When I extended monitor ( virtual display ) I can't play movies, players close down themselves
[21:36] <ManDay> HA!
[21:36] <ManDay> got it working
[21:37] <ManDay> i just went into synaptic and removed the old flash pck
[21:37] <mchelen> xiong, look where the shortcut is pointing then try moving the directory whever you like, then chance the link
[21:37] <mchelen> *change
[21:37] <felix_> i dont understand what im suppossed to do with this: ""chroot /esclavo/repository/tmp/hardy-i386 dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_4.0.1ubuntu5_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.16_i386.deb
[21:37] <felix_> dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH.
[21:37] <felix_> dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH. NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin.
[21:37] <xiong> ajudd4u, i'm fairly confident that i can fix the application menu issue -- although i think if the link doesn't follow moving of the original, that sucks
[21:37] <ajudd4u> yes
[21:37] <kidko> nmvictor: isn't mtab auto-edited by the system as devices are plugged in and whatnot? (It *is* in /etc/fstab)
[21:37] <felix_> damn
[21:37] <FloodBot1> felix_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:37] <swoody> can anyone help me out? I have 2 Ubuntu virtual machines installed, one of them won't detect eth0, though??
[21:37] <sevodnya> xiong, mchelen: if you look at http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linux_Viewer , you'll see that they give directions on how you might go about moving it, though I don't know if I agree with their reasoning
[21:38] <johnP> I have 3 questions i will start with the first one.    Desktop icons in Ubuntu are bigger at the same resolution (1024 x 768) than in XP and both systems recognize the same video card and monitor. Why is this? And is there a way to make my icons smaller without changing the resolution?
[21:38] <felix_> i hitted return by error, i'm sure that those folders are in PATH
[21:38] <felix_> i dunno what's wrong
[21:38] <ajudd4u> xiong, you can change the link manually
[21:38] <felix_> or how to debug in depth
[21:38] <Flannel> xiong: It'd be easier if you'd answer the questions so we can better help you.
[21:39] <xiong> okay, look, this is going nowhere -- i thought the whole point of linux is that a fellow could set it up to serve his needs and perhaps even cater to his desired way of working
[21:39] <sevodnya> johnP: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[21:39] <johnP> the latest.. 9.04
[21:39] <xiong> flannel, there is too much coming at me -- i don't think that fast, i'm not a multithreader
[21:39] <ajudd4u> xiong: im really sorry, but im really trying to help
[21:39] <Flannel> xiong: It is, and you can.  But you can't expect us to give you an answer if we don't know anything about what you're doing.
[21:39] <xiong> i didn't know if you asked a question
[21:39] <nmvictor> kidko:it gets listed in /etc/fstab once mounted,yes the devices are supposed to be listed in /etc.mtab automatically after plugged in but since in this case it wasnt,i doesnt hurt to list it their yourself
[21:39] <staminna> hey guys where can I find the package for apache2ctl?
[21:39] <Flannel> xiong: What are you trying to install?  You currently have it in a directory on your desktop, what is inside that directory?
[21:40] <Flannel> staminna: dpkg -S `which apache2ctl`
[21:40] <xiong> here is what i want, in plain speech: i believe that all files are system, application, or documents -- i really wish there were only three folders at the file system root -- can i do this? if not, how can i decently tuck all this horrible stuff out of the way?
[21:40] <Raccoon1400> how can I create a caption without a border in openoffice?
[21:40] <ManDay> so, installed totem - does it not appear among the applicatioms?
[21:40] <kidko> nmvictor: Ok, thanks
[21:40] <Severity1> it's like asking your girlfriend if she is a hoar
[21:40] <Raccoon1400> I disabled border in caption>options and it did nothing
[21:40] <nmvictor> staminna: apache2ctl,im not sure if it exists,have you tried synaptic?
[21:40] <xiong> Flannel, i have successfully installed and run second life from the applications menu
[21:41] <pepperjack> Raccoon1400: you just asked this in #archlinux ;p.  id join the openoffice channel for help
[21:41] <deniz> is it possible to remote desktop without a GUI?
[21:41] <Severity1> bravo
[21:41] <xiong> Flannel, there are many many files inside that folder; i have no idea how to summarize them here
[21:41] <Raccoon1400> pepperjack: tried there, no answer, there are 53 people there
[21:41] <Flannel> xiong: You can't.  Nor do you need to.  Don't worry about redesigning the system.   Ah, ok.  Second life.
[21:41] <WebcamWonder> deniz: You can ssh, but remote desktop would be useless without gui
[21:41] <sevodnya> xiong: quoting from the webpage i linked to earlier, this might be able to at least get it out of the way: "On systems where multiple people use Second Life, you may wish to unpack Second Life, then have your root user move it to /opt and link /opt/path-to-Secondlife/secondlife to /usr/games. Any user who has access to play games should be able to run Second Life directly from the command line with secondlife. "
[21:41] <Flannel> xiong: You just extracted them to that folder, and they all work, right?  Didn't have to do anything else?
[21:41] <crispy--> hmm I just kind of broke gnome (x crashes.. wildly... restarts X, and makes vitrual consoles inaccessible) with wine while playing theme hospital and alt+F4'ing the game a couple of times. KDE works though. Any ideas?
[21:41] <xiong> from my POV, inside the second life folder is the second life executable and a bunch of support files -- i consider the folder a unit
[21:41] <Flannel> xiong: Yeah, moving that folder to /opt/ is the correct method.
[21:42] <crispy--> Rebooting wont help
[21:42] <xiong> Flannel, i got good working first time -- this is not a technology issue, it's a way of doing things issue
[21:42] <Flannel> xiong: Right.  And we're saying, the correct place for that folder is /opt/foldername (so, /opt/secondlife or whatever)
[21:43] <skellington> hi, i have a stubborn program. i've been trying to uninstall movie player for the past 30 minutes. i seem to have deleted it but the icon stays on my desktop. im using ubuntu netbook remix so its weird.
[21:43] <ManDay> oh, important question: is it possible to tweak volumne ABOVE 100% ?
[21:43] <deany> Guest17447, only by way of ssh with X forwarding
[21:43] <xiong> Flannel, that is an explicit answer, which is what i want -- the reason i'm frustrated is that i've been getting so much of other comments
[21:43] <deany> Guest17447, ive installed jaunty that way :)
[21:43] <xiong> the answer is: /opt
[21:43] <xiong> great
[21:43] <nmvictor> skellington: how did you uninstall it?
[21:44] <skellington> i used the ad/remove applications application
[21:44] <xiong> it says i don't have permissions to do the move!
[21:44] <xiong> it did not ask for my password; it just refused
[21:44] <Severity1> by golly
[21:44] <Flannel> xiong: that's because we had no idea what you were doing.  Depending on the type of thing you were trying to do, there's a few places you could put it.  ~/bin /usr/local/bin, etc.  *not* /usr/share/applications/ that was an error on the part of that person.
[21:44] <ajudd4u> xiong, the confusing thing is that there are many ways to fix this problem. It is best to only listen to one person at a time and that would be flannel
[21:44] <nmvictor> skellington:what does clicking on that desktop icon result to?
[21:45] <WebcamWonder> ManDay: Depends on the app. Some apps, like mplayer, provide software-based mixing which can go greater than 100% (although I have never been able to get it to work)
[21:45] <Flannel> xiong: You'll need to use sudo if you were doing it in the terminal, sudo mv ~/Desktop/folder /opt/folder
[21:45] <Severity1> xiong: when you installed it did you sudo it or asked you for a password???
[21:45] <skellington> nothing, it doesnt even say "starting movie player"
[21:45] <Guest17447> deany, directvnc?
[21:45] <skellington> but its not really on my desktop, and i dont see an option to delete it
[21:45] <xiong> Flannel, i'm not in terminal; i'm in gnome file browser; what good is a GUI if you can't use it???
[21:46] <nexus10_> Hi. I'd like to install postgresql-7.* on a Hardy machine -- I have universe and multiverse enabled but they only offer pg 8.x. Is there a maintained repo with pg 7.x? How do I find out?
[21:46] <deany> Guest17447, not used it, heard of it..
[21:46] <Severity1> omg
[21:46] <xiong> Severity1, i don't want to ignore you but i think i have all i can do to follow flannel
[21:46] <Flannel> xiong: No one said you couldn't use it.  hit alt-f2, then type "gksu nautilus" then use the window that pops up to do the move.  Be *extremely* careful with that window, and close it as soon as you're done.
[21:46] <Severity1> and the spirit of opensource flutters away
[21:46] <Guest17447> deany, so is there an easy way to use my GUI comp to control a comp that has no GUI? like could u guide me?
[21:46] <johnP> Xinong i didnt see your question as i just got here but when i first downloaded second life it was a working folder also.. but if you want it integrated into your system like windoes does with program files you can get an installable copy from getdeb.com i also wanted to intergrate Cool viewer into my SL viewer and ran into the permissiond problem.. you have to tell nautilus to give you superuser permissions.. then you can copy and paste
[21:46] <johnP>  or drag and drop all you want. see this :  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=256998
[21:46] <skellington> its the netbook launcher. i call it the desktop
[21:46] <skellington> sorry
[21:46] <Shleng> Hey
[21:46] <Shleng> How is everyone. Just testing 9.04 on Eee PC 900A.
[21:46] <Shleng> It seems to be smooth, except for the common audio crackling issue.
[21:47] <xiong> flannel, that sounds nutty to me -- i have the file browser open right in front of me; i'm able to drag the target off the desktop into the folder window (/opt); i can't understand why this would be forbidden me
[21:47] <deany> Guest17447, no GUI on the remote?  well its ssh then..
[21:47] <nmvictor> skellington: well,then you succesfully uninstalled movie player.i don't think desktop icons are a big issue as they are in windows,i understand that uninstalling programs inwindows also removes the desktop icons,in linux,no always.
[21:47] <X-TaZz> Someone here know if there is any powerfull professionnal NFS server ( it needs to be very strong )
[21:47] <X-TaZz> ?
[21:47] <Flannel> xiong: Because you, as a regular user, don't have permission to modify everything on your computer.  It's a security thing.
[21:47] <nmvictor> skellington:*not always
[21:47] <Severity1> because this is security
[21:47] <xiong> i'm about fed up with this root user nonsense -- it's my laptop, i should be able to do what i like
[21:47] <deany> xiong, use windows then
[21:47] <Flannel> xiong: No, that's why windows has so many problems.  The fact that your user can't modify everything is a good thing.
[21:48] <Severity1> aint it good? it even protects itself from you making any unecessary mistakes? ^^
[21:48] <xiong> deany, i have never used windoz and never will
[21:48] <ajudd4u> its not just that
[21:48] <skellington> yeah, but theres no option for me to remove the icon. im getting the worst of both worlds. clutter and not being able to use movie player(not that i want to)
[21:48] <johnP> XIONG see my above post about Second life and go here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=256998
[21:48] <chuck_> nmvictor, sorry it took so long i had to find the link I tried this to convert a couple files then gave up and used avidemux maybe you can figure it out http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/ffmpeg-doc.html
[21:48] <nmvictor> xiong:the root stuff is the reason your computer has stayed malware and virus free since you installed it,
[21:48] <ajudd4u> it also helps prevent any malware from harming your computer
[21:48] <deany> xiong, theres no need for a root user, you just sudo your way around everything you NEED to do.. simple
[21:48] <Severity1> nautilus allows you to make any changes that normally needs root priviledge
[21:48] <WebcamWonder> Is there a way to run updatedb manually?
[21:48] <ajudd4u> that is why linux it the most secure os
[21:48] <xiong> okay fine -- but whenever i want to do a sysadmin task i'm frustrated or driven to the terminal
[21:48] <Flannel> WebcamWonder: sudo updatedb?
[21:49] <Shleng> Funny how Vista has copies the root administrative prompts with UAC.
[21:49] <Shleng> copied
[21:49] <Flannel> xiong: No, you're not.  I explained to you how to open a GUI with elevated permissions.
[21:49] <WebcamWonder> Flannel: Ahh, didn't know it required sudo privileges. Thanks
[21:49] <xiong> blarg!
[21:49] <Severity1> then ride the leopard like harold and kumar... oh wait i think that was a cheetah
[21:49] <Flannel> xiong: Just be aware, GUIs make it extremely easy to accidentally move/delete/modify/whatever things (accidentally drag the mouse, etc).  So like I said, be *very* careful, and close it as soon as you're finished.
[21:50] <Severity1> yep gksudo nautilus allows you to open a gui file browser with root prividges
[21:50] <johnP> im new to Ubuntu also.. this is my second day.. im sure i will get frustrated always having to do the superuser thing too.. but thats what i got cus i choose linux.
[21:50] <nmvictor> chuck_: avidemux,i have it installed but never used it,it does covert files too,thanks let me try it
[21:50] <ajudd4u> but you only need to use sudo when your changing essential parts of the system
[21:50] <Flannel> johnP, xiong: When you've got a fresh install, it seems like you end up using sudo all the time.  But as time goes by, you'll use it less and less.
[21:51] <Shleng> johnP: That is a good feature.
[21:51] <Severity1> you see... with your normal login you can only edit files and manipulate files freely in the home directory and if you tried manipulating any other stuff it requires you a password or it will give you file permission denial stuff then you do sudo or gksudo nautilus
[21:52] <sysdoc> Has anyone in here tried installing the UbuntuStudio packages over an existing Ubuntu install?
[21:52] <johnP> i know, and i understand why linux does it.. its just its so forien to people whao are not used to it.
[21:52] <eseven73> sudo, gksudo might be a inconvenience for a minute or two, but what's that compared to hours/days even weeks of frustration of having to reinstall, or worse loose data all together
[21:52] <ajudd4u> anyone know where i can find some good conky config files that are pre-done
[21:52] <eseven73> lose*
[21:52] <rtk126> Hello, I'm running Ubuntu server 8.04 and I want to backup a directory to a CDR, is that possible from the command line
[21:52] <rtk126> ?
[21:52] <xiong> flannel and others: maybe it's The Wrong Way To Do It but let me take a little side trip here and explain: i've been a mac os user for over 20 years -- ever since 1984 -- i don't mean the new mac os x (which is a fake mac gui on top of bsd); i mean the real original mac os, now sometimes called 'classic'
[21:52] <Severity1> that way you wont mess up your installation and do the same mistakes wondouse users do to their installation. mess it up and then they complain
[21:52] <nmvictor> chuck_: thanks again,that tutorial could just be what ive been looking for,thanks so much
[21:52] <venom> bonjour
[21:52] <Shleng> Question: How stable is Ext4?
[21:52] <mirak> do you know how to start again device detection ?
[21:52] <Flannel> sysdoc: Not personally (well, recently), but it is doable, yes.  The wiki page explains the packages you need.
[21:52] <Raccoon1400> anyone know how to make a caption in openoffice without a border? I disabled that option in caption>options, but it has no effect
[21:53] <xiong> we do everything in mac os with a gui and we do all sysadmin tasks that way and if you screw it up, you are screwed, so you learn never to screw up sysadmin tasks
[21:53] <chuck_> nmvictor, your welcome
[21:53] <xiong> the notion of all this root vs user login stuff just seems silly to me
[21:53] <Severity1> Shleng: everything else on my box is ext3 except for my home directory, it is on ext4 so far it is sailing smooth and havent done any real benchmarks
[21:53] <ajudd4u> it makes the system more secure
[21:54] <usser> xiong, if you do every sysadmin task on a mac with a gui, you're doing system administration wrong
[21:54] <nmvictor> xiong:you got do with that man,we at linux are in love with it.
[21:54] <Severity1> that's why mac guys are visually stimulated... they easily get excited over not so visually stimulating stuff
[21:54] <xiong> usser, there is *no* other way to do anything on a mac; there is no terminal or command line -- that's it
[21:54] <eseven73> xiong, not everyone has commonsense to be so cautious, especially if they're coming from Windows
[21:54] <rtk126> Hello, I'm running Ubuntu server 8.04 and I want to backup a directory to a CDR, is that possible from the command line?
[21:54] <usser> xiong, on a mac osx?? really?
[21:54] <Severity1> and from mac...
[21:54] <Severity1> uh-hu
[21:54] <rtk126> xiong: That is completly incorrect
[21:55] <Flannel> Alright, we're heading off topic.
[21:55] <nmvictor> Severity1: isnt mac the next thing to windows in terms of .....you know what
[21:55] <xiong> usser, read over what i wrote again -- mac os, not os x
[21:55] <sysdoc> Flannel, I got the idea from the wiki page.. The kernel (rt) that it installs of course breaks x and I can deal with that. But my vmware-server will not allow me to reconfigure the setup for the new kernel. It hangs at shutting down the web service...
[21:55] <Severity1> yep those are for the criPPled
[21:55] <skellington> can i download all of the gstreamer codecs at once somehow?
[21:55] <Severity1> i mean creepled
[21:55] <lscott3> I wish Aptana didnt blow baby chunks on Linux
[21:55] <xiong> i'm not trying to 'sell' mac os here; i'm just explaining why everything you guys say is confusing and weird to my ears
[21:55] <johnP> personaly i think we should have a freeze on all graphical os's and be forced to all use DOS 6.22 :P 9at least ppl wouold learn no to depen on a gui)
[21:55] <sysdoc> Flannel, check that, I can't get the NV 173 driver to play well with that new kernel either
[21:55] <Guest17447> rtk126, maybe you should use backintime (i dont think that's in 8.04's repositories)
[21:55] <Severity1> because this is the true music of OS
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> xiong:  because OS-X is confusing and weird.. and now our Normal talk is confusing :)
[21:56] <Flannel> sysdoc: You don't need to use the -rt kernel just to use studio.
[21:56] <Severity1> have you fixed a car by pressing buttons and pulling drop down menus? NO!
[21:56] <Severity1> you do it with passion
[21:56] <natschil> skellington: try apt-get install gstreamer*
[21:56] <Severity1> you go under the hood
[21:56] <xiong> Dr_Willis, please note: NOT os x; i have been using mac os -- so-called 'classic' -- all these years
[21:56]  * eseven73 gets out the popcorn in preparation for this OS war
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> Severity1:  and duct tape!
[21:56] <Severity1> use the tools of your trade
[21:56] <rtk126> Guest17447: I want to just burn the CD, is that what back in time does?
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> xiong:  thts really really scary
[21:56] <shipitkthx> i have a VPS server thats running gutsy, i can only connect via SSH and i want to upgrade it to jaunty, anyone know how?
[21:57] <Severity1> well it would be nice if your screwdrivers have buttons
[21:57] <sysdoc> Flannel, That is what I was hoping for...
[21:57] <johnP> O.k. question #2 - Is there a quicktime 7 for linux with all its codecs without running the  app under wine or a similar tool?
[21:57] <xiong> Dr_Willis, yah, i'm the last real mac os user left on the planet and i just quit for ubuntu -- this is a really scary switch
[21:57] <eseven73> shipitkthx, Gutsy? Ouch, why is a server/VPS not running a LTS at least?
[21:57] <natschil> shipitkthx: I'd look at what the ubuntu site says about upgrading
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> johnP:   i use mplayer and the codecs to play most every thing ive ever found
[21:57] <natschil> !upgrade |shipitkthx
[21:58] <Severity1> ever since i met LINUX in a cafe i never felt more in control of my computing
[21:58] <shipitkthx> eseven73: the guy im renting from isn't very bright is my only explanation
[21:58] <xiong> point being, there is NO terminal or command line in mac os; there is no protection against doing something evil or stupid; you do all your sysadmin from the same 'seat' as you do anything else; it is a single-user environment always in supervisor mode
[21:58] <natschil> shipitkthx: be sure to use the command line version......if you're upgrading all the way from gutsy, you *should* be ok, if you do it step by step
[21:58] <xiong> so you learn not to make sysadmin mistakes -- or i did, at least
[21:58] <Severity1> that's why if you want to migrate here you should start to learn to use em
[21:59] <Severity1> its not really scary
[21:59] <Severity1> they just removed the visually stimulating images
[21:59] <eseven73> xiong, you're starting to troll, stop
[21:59] <xiong> and so i'm having a real hard time understanding all this linux stuff
[21:59] <skellington> natschil: i dont think it installed anything
[21:59] <shipitkthx> natschil: my problem is do-release-upgrade doesnt work and i cant install it cuz i cant access the repositories
[21:59] <Flannel> xiong: Right.  This is different.  It's safer, etc.  If some program youre using has a vulnerability that allows arbitrary code execution, you're safe from that (at least, your system is), etc.
[21:59] <Severity1> xiong then we are here to help. if you want us to
[21:59] <lscott3> Man the web development tools on Linux are... ahem...
[21:59] <Flannel> Severity1: Mind staying on topic?  thanks
[21:59] <shipitkthx> natschil: and yah i have to do command line because im upgrading over ssh
[21:59] <xiong> eseven73, no, please don't be that way -- i'm not promoting mac, i'm explaining my mindset and why it's difficult for me to understand you guys
[22:00] <johnP> Dr Willis i ask because on second Life i have a tv that plays streamin media, in windiws, only way i can get it to work is if i install quicktime.. on ubuntu, the streaming media is so choppy, its like wacthing a slide show instead of fluent video at 30 frames per second.. i was hoping QT would fix the broblem in ubuntu also.
[22:00] <eseven73> xiong, ok well it's starting to sound like you're trash mouthing Linux
[22:00] <natschil> shipitkthx: yeah, I think ubuntu has a policy of removing repositories for outdates releases....but I think they're still hosted third party somewhere - command line isn't the problem here, the gui would fail too
[22:00] <xiong> eseven73, is that forbidden? are only linux fans permitted?
[22:00] <Severity1> Flannel, sure but will we be on topic if the one who needs help has uhmmmm you know
[22:00] <ajudd4u> xiong, there is a learning curve but after a while you will find it to be the best os around
[22:00] <eseven73> xiong, it's offtopic for this channel
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> johnP:  no idea on secondlife on linux.   I doubt if installing quicktime in wine will affect a game like that.
[22:00] <linuxviewer> I cannot seem to install the required things for drbl.  I dont even think dhcp3-server is installed but when I do a sudo apt-get dhcp3-server it says "invalid operation dhcp3-server"  Any suggestions?
[22:00] <xiong> eseven73, sorry, i'm not going to go down that road -- i'm here because i've made a decision to migrate to ubuntu, i'm sold
[22:00] <Flannel> Severity1: The topic for this channel is Ubuntu support.  Not comments regarding random other things.
[22:01] <nmvictor> xiong:dont worry man,every linux zealot had to start from somewhere,the good thing is once you are hooked,you wont look back
[22:01] <Flannel> natschil, shipitkthx: it's not third party: old-releases.ubuntu.com
[22:01] <johnP> Yes i know.. thats why i asked if there was a regulat quicktime for linux.
[22:01] <shipitkthx> flannel, thank you
[22:01] <Dr_Willis> johnP:  nope. Apple dont do that sort of stuff.
[22:01] <natschil> Flannel: sorry, thought I read that ubuntu didn't maintain old repos
[22:01] <xiong> there is no going back, i don't imagine i'm going back, i'm not here to sell macs, i'm here to bend this new ubuntu laptop into some sort of shape with which i can live
[22:01] <johnP> well shame on Apple.
[22:01] <ajudd4u> johnp, i would just download mplayer or vlc
[22:01] <Severity1> hmmmmmm, how can you give support for a problem if he has the benefactor has issues with the terminal
[22:02] <natschil> skellington: yeah, I think there are some gstreamer plugins that conflict
[22:02] <Severity1> at least we lead him to the right way
[22:02] <johnP> i will try more codecs.. perhaps that will help.
[22:02] <Flannel> natschil: "maintain"-- we keep them around (for archival purposes, the ISOs too, in case you wanted to go see what Warty was like, etc).  But they aren't changed, no updates, etc.
[22:02] <natschil> skellington: I just tried it myself
[22:02] <mirak> does ayone uses a DVB fullfeatured card ?
[22:03] <skellington_> oh
[22:03] <johnP> Question #3 - please answer if you have actually done this, not from what you have read. .. I want to back up my ubuntu as an image file so I can restore at a later time, just like I do in Norton Ghost for windows. But i need to have the ability to restore the image onto a larger hard drive. What good tool should I use for this purpose?
[22:03] <natschil> Flannel: btw, how long is hardy still maintained? I though it was strange that ubuntu would completely get rid of all those repos too, but it seems it isn't the case
[22:03] <skellington_> i think i screwed something up.
[22:03] <xiong> okay, so while you all may think it foolish, reckless, or unnecessary, can i simply login as root, do my file moving in the file browser, then logout as root?
[22:03] <ajudd4u> skellington, whats that
[22:03] <skellington_> well thanks.
[22:03] <mirak> johnP: gparted is doing well
[22:03] <Flannel> natschil: Hardy is LTS.  So it's supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 on the server (as opposed to the non-LTS which is 18 months)
[22:03] <xiong> i don't see any way from the login/logout menu to switch to any other user, let alone root
[22:03] <ajudd4u> xiong, well yes you can
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> xiong:  thats how i normally do it. or use 'sudo mc'
[22:04] <Dracofodder> does rhythmbox or banshee have cd ripping built into it?  I used to use cdjuicer on my old suse system, but after coming ubuntu, I am willing to try alternatives.
[22:04] <Flannel> xiong: Erm... You can.  But, you don't need to.  Just do this: alt-f2 `gksu nautilus`, then cloes the window when you're done.
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> xiong:  the thing to rember is always close out the root terminals/apps as soon as you are done.. just in case
[22:04] <xiong> Dr_Willis, sorry, but i really do intend to avoid terminal
[22:04] <natschil> Flannel: where is the line between the "desktop" packages that ubuntu maintains, and the "server" packages that it doesn't?
[22:04] <Severity1> sudo command allows you to do root priviledged stuff
[22:04] <johnP> yes bu i have read that gparted does no resize partitions.. i would need that cus i wan o reinstall the ubuntu on another drive that is larger and i want to use the whole drive.
[22:04] <Flannel> xiong: That window will be a "root window" and then you'll close it when you're done.
[22:04] <Flannel> xiong: there's no terminal.  Less typing than the root stuff, etc.
[22:04] <mirak> johnP: gparted is doing well, however I think it will not resize the full extended partition, you will have to recreate an extended partition I guess, then copy each partition with copy paste. and but grub back
[22:04] <cdavis> How do you add runtime variables to ntop in ubuntu?
[22:04] <xiong> Flannel, i *really* dislike typing commands on a command line -- i absolutely worship at the feet of the nameless guy back at parc who invented the mouse
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> xiong:  i would Not suggest running nautilus as root.. that can cause..  issues.. learn the terminal and try mc.. its better file manager then the gui ones (well it IS a gui one) just a 2 pane text based gui
[22:05] <dolo> is it possible to have an animated gif on your desktop
[22:05] <ajudd4u> xiong, you would have to go to system/login window/security and check allow local system administrator login
[22:05] <Severity1> terminal is always better
[22:05] <johnP> mirak thats not practicle for me to do.. so it looks like gparted is not for me.
[22:05] <voracious> Hello, i am trying to install reconstructor but the message is here in pastebin
[22:05] <magic_s0urce> Hello :)
[22:05] <pepperjack> dolo: its possible to have an animated desktop on your desktop
[22:05] <Flannel> xiong: Alright.  Well, there's no way for you to log in with root without doing terminal commands, so... no.
[22:05] <Severity1> i only not use it if im feeling lazy
[22:05] <voracious> http://pastebin.com/f4b19913f
[22:05] <ajudd4u> xiong, yes you can
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> xiong:  of course once you get the few rooty things done you need to do.. i rarely ever need to be root any more after the first day of setup
[22:05] <natschil> Flannel: sorry, i mixed up "desktop" and "server" , I meant which packages ("desktop") does ubunu stop maintaing after three years?
[22:05] <Flannel> xiong: There *is* a package you can install which will give you admin nautilus privledges.
[22:05] <shipitkthx> flannel: thank you, updates working again
[22:05] <joemac1> Can anyone tell me why my volume reverts to 0 every time I shut down my computer?
[22:05] <magic_s0urce> do you think it is recomended use in this new ubuntu version ext4 or bether keep whith ext3 to have bether stability?
[22:06] <mirak> johnP: there is not better
[22:06] <dolo> pepperjack: I just wanted a lil animated gif in the corner
[22:06] <Flannel> xiong: but again, as someone else said, you're being extremely stubborn, and are starting to look like a troll.
[22:06] <sattam> hi , could i upgrade gnome in hardy  ?
[22:06] <nmvictor> xiong:root is not really a fully configured account as you think,its more of a virtual,lets just say its like a top level position with unlimited privileges in a linux system which a system admin can acquire and use for system administration.
[22:06] <Brack10> I've been asked to "figure out what driver you're using" in reference to my wireless card.....how might one go about doing that?
[22:06] <johnP> mirak; im also looking at clonezilla.. have you tried it?
[22:07] <pepperjack> Brack10: lsmod lists loaded modules/drivers
[22:07] <Flannel> xiong: typing (or hell, copy/pasting) 13 characters isn't exactly stressful, considering how much typing you're willing to do in IRC
[22:07] <xiong> i hope i haven't stumbled into a well of groupthink -- stubborn is not a bad way to be; i retain clarity of purpose -- i'm not here to sell you on my way of doing or thinking, just looking for advice
[22:07] <vbgunz> xiong: do you have severe carpal tunnel or something worse, arthritis of the fingers?
[22:07] <pepperjack> Brack10: it will be a fairly long list though in ubuntu..
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> i recall years ago setting up the root users 'theme/colors' differently so any gui apps ran by root would be BRIGHT red.. i wonder if thats easially doable now
[22:07] <_Rha7_> joemac1, alsamixer, set the volumes as desired, and alsactl store
[22:07] <mirak> johnP: no, I don't know this one. anyway I think it's acceptable to let you recreate the logical extended volume,
[22:07] <natschil> nmvictor: I wouldn't quite say that, root _is_ an account as well
[22:07] <eseven73> thank god
[22:07] <Severity1> actually even if you sell that no one in here would buy
[22:08] <mirak> johnP: I don't feel increasing proportionnaly is right
[22:08] <Severity1> and he left the building
[22:08] <mirak> johnP: not bad either, but you can tune a bit
[22:08] <vbgunz> I dont think kicking xiong was a wise thing to do
[22:09] <_Rha7_> Can anyone tell me why my volume reverts to 0 every time I shut down my computer? <== Although if you're literal, it is down to 0, cuz, well, when you shut down your computer, it is 'off'
[22:09] <natschil> Dr_Willis: starting  gnome-appearance-settings (I think it's called that) as root should work, and then you can create your red theme...with me, I notice root apps because they don't use the standard gtk theme, which makes them stand out
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> natschil:   i think i tried that once.. and you can change the COLORS but i dont think you can the theme..  but some themes wont let you change colors..
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> natschil:  or could change window decor.. lets try it and see. :)
[22:10] <voracious> hello
[22:10] <joemac1> _Rha7_: thanks , I will see what happen when I reboot. Got some funny messages from the terminal but will see how we go.
[22:10] <voracious> http://pastebin.com/f4b19913f
[22:10] <johnP> I just wanted something as easy as norton ghose where i would not have to use tons of different tools to get the job done.. as it is now, i have to run any clone program from a disk cus the linux kernal cant be cloned while its in uses.. i dont have to worry about this extra step in windows with norton ghost, and since i am alreading addin this extra step in linux, i want to keep the use of lots of other tools out of the job.
[22:11] <natschil> Dr_Willis: I'm sure you can, as you can change everything between two different accounts
[22:11] <nmvictor> natschil: its an account but not fully configure as the other accounts really,have you ever  cd    /root   ,the only directory resent is Desktop.can you access root through gdm?hope you got what i meant
[22:11] <voracious> while installing from repository, i get this message
[22:11] <voracious> could you help me
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> natschil: i was thinkign the borders were still shown by the wm.. but let me try :)
[22:11] <natschil> nmvictor: I get your point, but you *can* access root in gdm, it's turned off in default
[22:11] <johnP> i think its time to shoot another typist./
[22:11] <lysdexia> Hi all. had a fresh install forced upon me (don't ask). My machine has two system fans on the cpus which are meant to cool the entire box. The power supply gets very hot and has failed on me a couple of times before. I had spent a good bit of time configuring the fans to run at a higher speed back when I first installed Hoary.
[22:12] <lysdexia> It was working fine through the last two upgrades.
[22:12] <nmvictor> natschill:ok
[22:12] <natschil> !root |nmvictor
[22:12] <sevodnya> johnP: to change desktop icon size: open any folder, go to Edit > Preferences > Icon View Defaults > Default zoom level
[22:12] <pepperjack> lysdexia: this is an arch document but the use of pwconfig should be compatable with ubuntu and it should be in the repos http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fan_speed_control
[22:13] <lysdexia> Ah pwconfig.
[22:13] <johnP> Oh cool.. thanks for comming through for my Sevodnya.. this is just my 2nd day with linux.
[22:13] <lysdexia> Half of the battle is remembering the abrvtd-nm.
[22:13] <_Rha7_> lysdexia, Ah confpwig
[22:13] <natschil> Dr_Willis: I think borders are shown by the wm, but if you really wanted to, I'm sure you could somehow setup something like compiz to change all borders of windows run by root to be red :)
[22:13] <lysdexia> Thanks pepperjack.
[22:13] <pepperjack> yep
[22:14] <natschil> nmvictor: in most other linux distros (as far as I know), you can use the root acount normally, but ubuntu does make it a sort of pseudo-account, as it disables its password
[22:14] <krammer_> how can i extract a rar file
[22:14] <Jack_Smirnoff> !rar
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> natschil:  ok ran gksu gnome-appearance-properties     - selected high contrast theme. :)
[22:15] <nmvictor> natshill:i got you bro,long time ago.hope you got me too
[22:15] <Severity1> it's like you nedd to reauthenticate yourself even if you have logged in as root
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> natschil:  dident seem to take effect. :(
[22:16] <Severity1> so that even if you left your machine on for 2 minutes and some saboteur sneaks up and messes your system he will fail unless he knows your sudo password
[22:17] <elli222> any place i can share scripts that i think might be useful?
[22:17] <johnP> i dont need a root password to damage a linux using  the  hammer to the hard drive method. ( im being silly, i;; shut up :-0
[22:18] <natschil> Dr_Willis: not sure whether it makes a difference, but you could try sudo gnome-appearance-properties
[22:18] <elli222> (for linux, in bash)
[22:18] <ralmar> Hey guys, up until a few days ago I used integrate ATI graphics on my pc, but I recently bought an ATI Radeon HD card. I put it in my pc and it worked fine on my main ubuntu user.  If open firefox or any other program and try to scroll it gets choppy, its not smooth. Any ideas on how to fix it? Thanks
[22:18] <Severity1> well if you wont want to damage it obviously
[22:18] <nmvictor> elli222:to start you off, just pm me the links to them
[22:18] <_Rha7_> elli222, start a blog? use github gists
[22:19] <elli222> don't want a blog, just somthing like gnome-look for scripts...
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> natschil:  yea running them with gksu lets me change them.. but some gnome apps dont like to get ran that way and none are using the new root theme
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> natschil:  i thinkit has somthing to do with some gnome-settings service/deamon that the normaluser is running also. and root user is not running
[22:20] <canhnhat> jkmjhk
[22:21] <sevodnya> Dr_Willis, natschil: it's gnome-settings-daemon, and that's intentional, it's to allow high-contrast themes, etc, to carry over to administrative actions for visually-impaired users, etc
[22:21] <natschil> Dr_Willis: that's strange...for me, as I use kde (shouldn't have mentioned that in #ubuntu :) ) I use the qt gtk engine for gtk apps, but when I run them as root, somehow it isn't used.
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> sevodnya:  yea that makes sence :) but i sware i saw some disrto that let you have different colors.. but that was years ago.
[22:22] <Steve|laptop> I tried upgrading form 8.10 to 9.04 and a number of packages failed to install and now I can't log in graphically. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7286002 is my post about it. Can anyone suggest a way to recover?
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> i just cringe every time someone says do 'gksu nautilus'
[22:22] <pepperjack> i just suggest people alias nautilus="gksudo nautilus"
[22:23] <Flannel> pepperjack: Please don't do that.
[22:23] <pepperjack> jokin
[22:23] <pepperjack> Steve|laptop: have you tried a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again?
[22:24] <elli222> i think they should alias nautilus --no-desktop to nautilus
[22:24] <Steve|laptop> pepperjack: Yes. I don't have a network connection any more though.
[22:24] <pepperjack> Steve|laptop: you can always do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure * or somesuch
[22:24] <Steve|laptop> pepperjack: That fails.
[22:24] <pepperjack> Steve|laptop: ah
[22:24] <elli222> or have the default action --no-desktop and make --desktop manage the... desktop
[22:25] <pepperjack> Steve|laptop: can you burn a v9 cd or dvd?  you could then add it to sources.list might take care of most of the issue
[22:25] <hittt> Is there any way to shutdown an ubuntu machine using PHP?
[22:25] <Steve|laptop> pepperjack: Yeah, I've got a CD. Add what to the sources.list?
[22:26] <pepperjack> Steve|laptop: it the no internet a function of your ubuntu being broken or do you just not have net access?
[22:26] <mobi-sheep> I'm trying to use Ubuntu Minimal ISO (mini.iso) on a netbook (no CD).  What would be the best way to send iso to the usb?  I recently tried "sudo dd if=mini.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=1M"
[22:26] <_fynn> mobi-sheep: try unetbootin
[22:27] <pepperjack> mobi-sheep: yeah second for unetbootin
[22:27] <aemyr> +1 for unetbootin
[22:27] <mobi-sheep> _fynn, pepperjack, aemyr:  Okay.
[22:27] <sevodnya> !unetbotin | mobi-sheep
[22:27] <hittt> yes unetbootin, for both windows and linux
[22:27] <sevodnya> !unetbootin | mobi-sheep
[22:27] <yaris123456789> is it possible to run TextMate on linux ? or is there a clone of TextMate for linux ?
[22:27] <bonhoffer> is there a way to mount nrg files in ubuntu?
[22:27] <Steve|laptop> pepperjack: I'm pretty sure it's just ubuntu being broken.
[22:27] <pepperjack> Steve|laptop: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list  you should have a cd rom line commented out there you COULD change the info to 9.04 and retry
[22:28] <mobi-sheep> yaris123456789: What is TextMate?
[22:28] <yaris123456789> mobi-sheep: its a IDE on mac
[22:28] <pepperjack> Steve|laptop: then sudo apt-get update and try the dist-upgrade again
[22:28] <sevodnya> yaris123456789: what are you using it to write?
[22:28] <mobi-sheep> yaris123456789: What languages?
[22:28] <rmrfslash> How the power saving capabilities in Ubuntu? Can I choose to turn off desktop effects when power reaches a certain level?
[22:28] <aemyr> yaris123456789: Ide like Eclipse?
[22:29] <pepperjack> Steve|laptop: another option would be to boot into livecd and then mount your root partition to like /mnt then chroot and try the dist-upgrade again
[22:29] <krammer_> how can i extract a rar file not a tar
[22:29] <mrwes> hey j00 lamerz!
[22:29] <elli222> rmr, intresting project...
[22:29] <sevodnya> !rar | krammer_
[22:29] <pepperjack> krammer_: sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[22:29] <mrwes> krammer_, sudo apt-get install unrar
[22:29] <Steve|laptop> pepperjack: I'll try that.
[22:29] <Steve|laptop> the boot the livecd.
[22:29] <krammer_> pepperjack, thanks
[22:29] <bonhoffer> do i have to write a custom script to mount nrg -- is there not a simpler way?
[22:29] <pepperjack> krammer_: or rather not -nonfree since it seems its just unrar now
[22:30] <francesco_cinier> ubuntu.it
[22:30] <frog_> hi, i have an iso, that i can mount but there are no files in it. it is 630 mb . is there any way to repair it or something?
[22:31] <LjL> francesco_cinier: /join #ubuntu-it
[22:31] <LjL> non è difficile. davvero.
[22:31] <rmrfslash> elli222: was that directed to me?
[22:31] <krammer_> pepperjack, how would i use this on the cli
[22:31] <mrwes> krammer_, man unrar
[22:31] <rmrfslash> "rmr: interesting project"
[22:31] <caci> anybody seeing windows not updating sometimes when run under nvidia/compiz?
[22:31] <krammer_> k
[22:31] <pepperjack> krammer_: unrar file.rar
[22:31] <krammer_> ty
[22:32] <REDucka> а тут русские есть ?
[22:32] <elli222> yes
[22:32] <ejv> !russia
[22:32] <REDucka> клева
[22:32] <elli222> if i can grab the values, and learn about loops, i could do exactly that...
[22:33] <Shleng> ?
[22:33] <francesco_cinier> cerco l'effetto simile a mac os quello delle finestre che si aprono insieme se sposto il cursore agli angoli...come si chiama?
[22:33] <melter> i've installed bitstream vera fonts from the ttf-bitstream-vera package, but imagemagick doesn't see them. how do i get imagemagick to see the fonts?
[22:33] <thiebaude1> !it
[22:34] <gamepockets> hello, i have an external hd that xubuntu won't aloow permissions to write to..
[22:34] <mrwes> molte bene!
[22:34] <Decepticon> how can i get wget to download something with multiple threads?
[22:35] <mrwes> gamepockets, what are the permissions of the mount point, and who is it owned by?
[22:35] <gamepockets> hang on, new to lin
[22:35] <LjL> Decepticon: you cannot, i think. you can use other programs like "aria2" or "axel".
[22:35] <Seveas> Decepticon, not.
[22:36] <pepperjack> gamepockets: do you know if it is fat or ntfs?
[22:36] <rmrfslash> eli222: so basically, that functionality don't exist is what you're telling me, and that someone.... perhaps even *me*... might be interested in implementing this.
[22:36] <chetnick> i just came back to my computer, and it looks like it rebooted itself. Which log files should i look to see what caused this?
[22:36] <Decepticon> are any of those cli
[22:36] <gamepockets> owner: root         Access:root              formatted to ext3
[22:36] <rmrfslash> eli222: interesting ;)
[22:36] <LjL> Decepticon: they are all cli.
[22:36] <mrwes> gamepockets, then you need to chown to your username
[22:36] <Decepticon> awesome
[22:36] <mobi-sheep> !i686
[22:36] <Decepticon> which do you recommend first
[22:36] <gamepockets> ???
[22:37] <Decepticon> which is as lightweight and resiliant as wget (bad connection resistant)
[22:37] <mrwes> gamepockets, sudo chown yourusername:yourusername /media/mountpoint
[22:37] <IcemanV9> chetnick: syslog, messages, kern.log
[22:37] <gamepockets> about this mountpoint......            it shows up on the desktop so it that the m.p.?
[22:37] <mobi-sheep> I get a message "This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU.  Unable to boot -- please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU"
[22:37] <chetnick> IcemanV9: thanks
[22:38] <Seveas> chetnick, anything in /var/log :)
[22:38] <LjL> Decepticon: i recommend against axel. aria2c is ok. could also try put.
[22:38] <mobi-sheep> Which is appropriate Ubuntu Minimal for me?  I don't see anything saying i686. :(  --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[22:38] <mrwes> gamepockets, it's most like somewhere like /media/disk or something like that
[22:38] <EmEcks> hello
[22:38] <LjL> Decepticon: sorry, i meant puf.
[22:38] <mrwes> likely*
[22:38] <LjL> mobi-sheep: i386
[22:38] <Seveas> mobi-sheep, i386
[22:38] <Decepticon> LjL, so puf ~= aria2c > axel ?
[22:38] <gamepockets> ah yes media/disk, hang on that sounds like something i ran into with fstab...
[22:39] <Seveas> mobi-sheep, aka '32 bit pc'
[22:39] <LjL> Decepticon: i never tried puf.
[22:39] <Sam18> mobi-sheep: 32-bit PC (x86)
[22:39] <burntresistor> Im teaching myself how to program in python and the book is asking me to load tkinter  , i then downloaded python tk   do i need somthing other than idle to use this  because my graphics module isnt loading
[22:39] <Shleng> When is Moblin 3 coming out?
[22:40] <Seveas> Shleng, ask the moblin people
[22:40] <joaopinto> burntresistor, did you install tk  from the repositories ? You shouldn't need to download from other sources...
[22:41] <EmEcks> hello, I just started using Ubuntu, and a buddy of mine told me the terminal command to search and install programs.  Can someone remind me the commands?
[22:41] <Shleng> Moblin is good.
[22:41] <mikejet> When I start several gnome-terminals, it looks like one process is running all the terminal windows. Is that true?
[22:41] <Shleng> Ubuntu MID uses it .
[22:41] <Shleng> But it lacks software and has bugs
[22:41] <amit> hey guys, how can i uninstall ubuntu
[22:41] <thiebaude1> EmEcks: sudo apt-get install
[22:41] <EmEcks> :3
[22:41] <Steve|laptop> pepperjack: I couldn't get the internet connection to work from the live cd. I assume I have to configure the ip and so forth since it doesn't use dhcp. Looking in /etc/apt/sources.list, I don't see anything about a cd.
[22:41] <Shleng> Has anyone installed the Realtek HD audio drivers to replace the standard ones?
[22:41] <EmEcks> and which one was the search command?
[22:42] <burntresistor> i downloaded the packet python-tk but when i try to import the graphics module i need into idle it says theres a tab error
[22:42] <Shleng> To see if the sound quality improves.
[22:42] <thiebaude1> EmEcks: i dont know, i dont do search by the way of a terminal
[22:42] <EmEcks> ahh,
[22:42] <rrplay> EmEcks: apt-cache search
[22:42] <Mean_Admin> I can't find a guide to using ACLs in conjunction with Samba, anyone know a link to page/forum post ?
[22:42] <EmEcks> oh, thanks.
[22:42] <thiebaude1> !synaptic
[22:43] <mrwes> !apt
[22:43] <mrwes> :)
[22:43] <Guest9346> how can i uninstall ubuntu, can i just insert the windows disc and delete the partition?
[22:43] <thiebaude1> !adept
[22:43] <gamepockets> MRWES, you just solved a problem that has plauged me for a week and a half! I bow to you......
[22:43] <mrwes> gamepockets, nod --- easy peasy brutha
[22:43] <Seveas> Guest9346, yeah, and then restore the boot sector to what windows wants
[22:43] <mobi-sheep> Seveas, Sam18:  Thanks.  That worked.  Although I could sworn I downloaded the same thing.  However I checked the md5sum.  It was entirely different.  >_>
[22:43] <mrwes> gamepockets, Linux 101 :)
[22:43] <gamepockets> your x-mas gift will be there soon!
[22:44] <mrwes> gamepockets, hrmm...a nice Cotes du Rhone would do
[22:45] <Guest9346> bye ubuntu fans, its been fun i just cant handle the compatiblity issues
[22:45] <mrwes> hasta
[22:45] <[1]kaffien> has ubuntu disabled mp3 support?
[22:46] <Seveas> !mp3 | [1]kaffien
[22:46] <mrwes> [1]kaffien, no....
[22:46] <[1]kaffien> seems to be missing the codec for mp3
[22:46] <Dr_Willis> [1]kaffien:  You must insttall  the stuff for mp3
[22:46] <[1]kaffien> i just did a fresh install of jaunty desktop
[22:46] <thiebaude1> !codecs
[22:47] <thiebaude1> my bad
[22:47] <mrwes> [1]kaffien, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras from the terminal
[22:47] <[1]kaffien> good lord
[22:47] <mrwes> MP3 is not considered open source
[22:47] <[1]kaffien> i see
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> [1]kaffien:  that package will get most all the extras you need.
[22:47] <[1]kaffien> so hows about a simple   install non opensource things flag during install
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> [1]kaffien:  dont hold your breath on that.
[22:48] <mrwes> [1]kaffien, you have to make that choice
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> [1]kaffien:  plus there could be legal issues. :)
[22:48] <[1]kaffien> the only time i ever encountered this before was a redhat install
[22:48] <mrwes> [1]kaffien, it's standard with Ubuntu
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu tries to very very very muich take the 'legal high ground'
[22:49] <kandjar> is there a command line which take the WEP password and give you back the Hexadecimal key?
[22:50] <gregor1> I know speech recognition in Linux is not that mature, but what's the easiest program (inaccurate as it may be) to do speech from a headset to a text file?
[22:51] <[1]kaffien> would this also effect my audio playback  when recording?
[22:51] <ameet> what is the function __stack_chk_fail
[22:51] <ameet> is it auto generated ?
[22:52] <sere> i get a black screen on my tv trying to use tvout but monitor works fine...here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/173271/ will someone please help
[22:54] <shipitkthx> ok so im upgrading a server from gutsy to hardy over ssh, and it just got to "starting kernel log daemon" and now its just hanging there, im lost as far as what to do
[22:54] <CoJaBo-Aztec> sere: To do that on mine, I had to restart the computer making sure the output was connected before it would use it
[22:55] <sere> CoJaBo-Aztec: i did that but still no luck....i think im missing something in my xorg.conf
[22:55] <Tecna> Could someone please help me figure out why totem crashes every time i load a video?  Other media players dont do this.
[22:55] <calwig> hi, can anyone here tell me how to do a printjob on ubuntu thru the console?
[22:55] <calwig> to spool a job directly to the printer, ie. pdf, doc, jpg
[22:55] <ikonia> calwig: lp
[22:56] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Tecna: Totem didnt work for me either, have you tried VLC?
[22:56] <calwig> ikonia: really? ok... so easy, but what if i have 2 printers?
[22:56] <IcemanV9> shipitkthx: do you have access to the server? if yes, then do it on the console.
[22:56] <ikonia> calwig: it goes to your default unless you specify, man lp and lpr
[22:56] <calwig> ikonia: thanks for the help, you were quicker to respond! really thanks
[22:56] <calwig> brb
[22:56] <Tecna> CoJaBo-Aztec: not yet. :(
[22:57] <shipitkthx> icemanv9, no i dont, i ctrl-c' out of it, it finished the rest and then gave me a warning saying system may be in an unusable state
[22:57] <chuck_> Tecna, open totem from terminal it should let you know why it crashes
[22:57] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Tecna: VLC has a lot more features, just make sure to get at least the RC if possible (version 0.9.9 is broken)
[22:58] <xisco> hello guys, How can I update a program hosted in bzr ?
[22:58] <IcemanV9> shipitkthx: ah. okay. then, you'll need to check it out to be sure that it can be reboot when it's done.
[22:58] <calwig> ikonia: is there a printstatus screen under the console to see where it went?
[22:58] <Tecna> chuck_: will do
[22:58] <Lyth> Can anyone recommend any Linux sci-fi mmos with decent crafting. Not EVE, it's for accountants.
[22:58] <carpii> try quicken, its a blast
[22:59] <Lyth> I meant EVE is for accountants
[22:59] <carpii> i knoew, im just teasing :(
[22:59] <Lyth> Ah
[22:59] <Lyth> EVE is just spreadsheets in space.
[22:59] <carpii> yeah i played for a while, it was a bit uh, tedious
[22:59] <Severity1>
[22:59] <Severity1>
[22:59] <Tecna> chuck_: 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
[22:59] <FloodBot1> Severity1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:59] <Severity1>
[23:00] <Lyth> Yeah, and if you complain they scold you for impatience
[23:00] <Tecna> chuck_: it might be because I forgot to activate swap
[23:00] <carpii> why dont you have a look at winehw, see if any windows games work under wine/crossover
[23:00] <carpii> or check playdeb.com or getdeb.com
[23:00] <carpii> they have some nice stuff once in a while
[23:00] <[1]kaffien> does ubuntu / gnome have a konsole / kate equivelant?
[23:00] <houndogg> Hi, is there someone who could help my out with pptpd
[23:01] <Idespnnr> [1]kaffien: gnome-terminal
[23:01] <WebcamWonder> [1]kaffien: gnome-terminal: console, gedit = kate
[23:01] <Idespnnr> [1]kaffien: gedit by default(but i prefer medit)
[23:01] <Tecna> chuck_: just activated swap, and it's still not working.
[23:01] <losher> ameet: lots of google hits for __stack_chk_fail. Try compiling with -fno-stack-protector
[23:02] <Idespnnr> houndogg: pptp server or client?
[23:02] <Severity1> sorry bout that i fell asleep... on my keypboard..
[23:02] <timClicks> hi all, is anyone from canonical here? the logo here looks somewhat suspicious http://www.hmrgroup.co.uk/
[23:02] <Severity1> is that the vm.swappiness stuff
[23:02] <[1]kaffien> gedit doesnt = kate
[23:02] <nfrs> I've got a weird situation with sshfs and fstab. will be grateful for any help. I've configured the mounting via the fstab. all seems to be well, except that my regular user can't access anything below the mount point (permission denied). this is weird, because "sudo stat" shows my user/group as owner
[23:02] <[1]kaffien> kate has a terminal built into it
[23:03] <Idespnnr> timClicks: wow....
[23:03] <Idespnnr> that is funny
[23:03] <ericjoseph> hey guys... is it possible to boot off an external HD (live cd) and install another version of ubuntu from that environment?
[23:03] <Severity1> wow that's logo thief
[23:03] <[1]kaffien> or is conical a logo thief
[23:03] <Flannel> timClicks: http://www.ubuntu.com/contact/trademarkviolation
[23:03] <Idespnnr> ericjoseph: yes, use unetbootin
[23:03] <timClicks> cheers - i was looking for something like like
[23:03] <Severity1> no!
[23:04] <Severity1> that logo is supposed to be authentic
[23:04] <Severity1> even the color is almost the same just a bit lighter
[23:04] <mikejet> "lp file.pdf" sends the document to my default HP network printer. How do I make the "lp" commandline tool print on both sides of the page? This is to help the environment & global warming.
[23:04] <ericjoseph> unetbootin is what i used to install the live cd to the external HD... i can use it to install ubuntu (non live cd version) to the local hd?
[23:05] <[1]kaffien> i might confuse that with ubuntu
[23:05] <[1]kaffien> hehe
[23:05] <Severity1> that site says Copyright © 2009. All rights reserved. what does it mmean
[23:05] <chuck_> Tecna, do not know to much about totem it does sound like it is having a problem loading it into memory
[23:05] <Brack10> ericjoseph: No, that's not what it's for
[23:05] <zack`> mikejet: type man lp
[23:05] <WebcamWonder> mikejet: As per man lp, there are 2 -o sides=two-sided* options
[23:05] <yaris123456789>  does wget -r, store the links it visited in memory or does it manually check whether the link was downlaoded on the harddrive ?
[23:05] <Idespnnr> ericjoseph: I use unetbootin to install the ubuntu iso to a usb, i then boot off usb to install ubuntu to a computer from a live ubuntu
[23:05] <Severity1> that site is ruining my beliefs
[23:05] <Brack10> ericjoseph: oh nevermind...yes you can
[23:05] <Severity1> im breakingdown
[23:06] <ericjoseph> ok i'll give it a go :P  thanks guys
[23:06] <yaris123456789> in my perl script how do i check whether a command was successful ?
[23:06] <houndogg> Idespnnr server
[23:06] <zack`> mikejet: youre looking for one of the lp -o options
[23:06] <mikejet> WebcamWonder, Thanks. The Earth thanks you too.
[23:06] <xirrin> Here's probably a pretty easy question for someone: I can't seem to open .deb files. I get an error saying the associated helper application does not exsist. Its the GDebi Package Installer (which is selected on the "Open With" dialog) and shows through Synaptec that is is installed and working fine. Any ideas?
[23:07]  * zack` feels undervalued
[23:07] <Idespnnr> timClicks: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1159916
[23:07] <Severity1> rei nstall it
[23:07] <pvvni> xirrin: can you install them via a terminal?
[23:08] <pvvni> xirrin: dpkg -i filename
[23:08] <xirrin> pvvni: Let me try quick
[23:10] <xirrin> pvvni: Yes, it installed fine if I do it that way.
[23:10]  * IceGuest_75[A] is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 5 minutes
[23:10] <Flannel> !away > IceGuest_75[A]
[23:11] <Tecna> vlc keeps crashing every time I resize the window
[23:12] <chuck_> Tecna, What video card do you have
[23:12] <nfrs> I've got a weird situation with sshfs and fstab. will be grateful for any help. I've configured the mounting via the fstab. all seems to be well, except that my regular user can't access anything below the mount point (permission denied). this is weird, because "sudo stat" shows my user/group as owner
[23:12] <rimvis> write sudo su and you be administrator
[23:13] <Tecna> chuck_: ye olde Nvidia Geforce 2 MX400.  It's never given me trouble until today.
[23:13] <xirrin> pvvni: Any idea why it wouldn't do it through the .deb download link from my browser? This is a fresh install of ubuntu 9.04
[23:13] <Tecna> wait
[23:13] <``myforwik> Hello, I am using NVIDIA Accelerated driver version 180 on Ubuntu 9.4 32bit, I have a 9800GT video card. The Nvidia X Server settings do not show any resolutions higher than 1024x768, I would like to use 1600x1200 and 1280x1024. Does anyone know what to do?
[23:13] <Tecna> I have a different monitor today
[23:13] <cemunal> hi all
[23:13] <cemunal> how can i use mesa with ubuntu?
[23:14] <soreau> cemunal: What do you mean?
[23:14] <rimvis> is people who try to instal eucalyptus???
[23:14] <xisco> what is the command to update a program with bzr ?
[23:14] <Darxus> What's up with the gutsy sources?  I'm getting 404's after rebuilding my /etc/apt/sources.list with system/administration/software sources.
[23:14] <miranda> se habla español en este canal?
[23:14] <mobi-sheep> !gutsy
[23:14] <cemunal> soreau, mesa dirvers
[23:14] <Flannel> Darxus: Gutsy is EOL.  It's no longer supported, it's repos have been taken offline.  You should upgrade to Hardy.
[23:14] <cemunal> *drivers
[23:14] <mobi-sheep> Darxus: There you go.
[23:14] <Flannel> !es | Guest57478
[23:15] <Ursinha> !es | Guest57478
[23:15] <Darxus> Flannel: Thanks.
[23:15] <soreau> cemunal: Which card model is this?
[23:15] <Darxus> Flannel: I thought that might be the case, but I'm surprised I didn't see anything that actually said that.
[23:15] <calwig> ikonia: how can i check the print status on the console_
[23:15] <calwig> !lp
[23:15] <[1]kaffien> how do you activate the cube in compiz?
[23:15] <cemunal> soreau, nvidia RIVA TNT2
[23:15] <Dominoeffekt> what do i type in the terminal to get in to root?
[23:15] <Dominoeffekt> username root?
[23:15] <calwig> !print
[23:15] <chetnick> any program that would display log files directly on desktop?
[23:15] <mrwes> !root
[23:15] <Flannel> Dominoeffekt: use sudo instead:  sudo [command]
[23:15] <``myforwik> !nvidia
[23:16] <mrwes> !compiz | [1]kaffien
[23:17] <``myforwik> Hello, I am using NVIDIA Accelerated driver version 180 on Ubuntu 9.4 32bit, I have a 9800GT video card. The Nvidia X Server settings do not show any resolutions higher than 1024x768, I would like to use 1600x1200 and 1280x1024. Does anyone know what to do?
[23:17] <Darxus> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/  1st google hit for ubuntu gutsy, that page should say it's EOLed.
[23:17] <Flannel> Dominoeffekt: What command are you trying to perform?
[23:17] <soreau> cemunal: I'm not certain, but i think that card is very limited in it's capabilities. You /var/log/Xorg.0.log file should have more details
[23:17] <aemyr> Has somebody tried compilling the 2.6.30 kernel and using it in jaunty? I'm doing this now
[23:17] <Mip5> Hey Gang - I can't get my system to complete the boot after a raid1 install (/ on md0). Ideas?
[23:18] <dtchen> aemyr: instead of the mainline builds available at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[23:18] <dtchen> aemyr: ?
[23:18] <yaris123456789> is it possible to make wget output file so that the URL is retained somehow and no sub directories are created ?
[23:18] <kartofelek> Hi all
[23:18] <Dominoeffekt> Flannel: im tryint to install gParted.   but i have to have root accses to do that
[23:18] <cemunal> soreau, nvidia RIVA TNT2
[23:18] <Flannel> Dominoeffekt: sudo apt-get install gparted
[23:19] <IchLiebeSarah> >.>
[23:19] <jac0b> does anyone have a problem with jaunty not turning off your monitor for power saving mode?
[23:19] <aemyr> dtchen: didn't notice them xD
[23:19] <Dominoeffekt> Flannel: i tryed that. I get a pop up that ses that i need to log in to root
[23:19] <jac0b> instead of my monitor going off it blinks "no signal"
[23:19] <pvvni> xirrin: no clue.
[23:20] <[1]kaffien> i know how to install it i just don't know how to  'activate'  / use it
[23:20]  * Tecna growls
[23:20] <Dominoeffekt> Flannel: Oh sry. its not when im installing it. Its when im trying to run the Gparted
[23:20] <NativeAngels> how do i set persions so a user can upload and download to there foles ie /home/user and /home/user/public_html
[23:20] <mobi-sheep> jac0b: Sounds like Jaunty is doing fine.  I think you're looking for blank screensaver?
[23:20] <pvvni> xirrin: the deb gui installer is probably borked somehow
[23:20] <zimbres> VillaVampiria, liebst du nicht mehr Sahra?
[23:20] <cemunal> does anybody know how to use mesa drivers with nvidia riva tnt2 under ubuntu 9.04?
[23:20] <pvvni> But I'm really not familiar with the GUI side of things
[23:21] <Dominoeffekt> Flannel: Root privileges are required for running GParted
[23:21] <nrg> hello
[23:21] <Flannel> Dominoeffekt: Just hit the menu item, it should ask for your password.
[23:21] <jac0b> no I have the space screensaver but when it is supposed to turn off the monitor it blinks no signal and doesn't turn off
[23:21] <pvvni> nrg: whats up
[23:21] <Flannel> Dominoeffekt: If not, use this: gksu gparted
[23:21] <jac0b> it worked in hardy
[23:22] <``myforwik> Hello, I am using NVIDIA Accelerated driver version 180 on Ubuntu 9.04 32bit, I have a 9800GT video card. The Nvidia X Server settings do not show any resolutions higher than 1024x768, I would like to use 1600x1200 and 1280x1024. Does anyone know what to do?
[23:22] <Dominoeffekt> Flannel:  thaks mate
[23:22] <nrg> i have a question about gnome-volume-manager on hardy
[23:22] <Dominoeffekt> Flannel:  Do u know anything about Gparted?
[23:22] <Flannel> Dominoeffekt: you'd be better off asking your real question to the channel.  Someone will know the answer.
[23:22] <jac0b> sometimes it will turn off the monitor and sometimes it doesn't
[23:23] <nrg> when i start g-v-m, it exits immediately with a exit code of '0'
[23:23] <Dominoeffekt> Flannel:  ok sry :P
[23:23] <Darxus> "It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first."  Yeah that should make my upgrade interesting.
[23:23] <jaturawit> :q
[23:23] <jaturawit> exit
[23:23] <nrg> i am trying to run it with the '-n' switch to keep it in the foreground
[23:23] <mobi-sheep> jac0b: Jaunty can't turn off the monitor.  That's physical hardware.  Monitor blinks no signal because Jaunty did what it should, standby, I suppose.
[23:24] <jac0b> well how come it would go off in hardy but in jaunty it just blinks no signal
[23:24] <Dominoeffekt> Im wondering about Gparted. I have Dual boot Windows and Ubuntu. I need to resize the partitions.
[23:24] <Dominoeffekt> is it safe to "take" space from the windows partition to the ubuntu partition? I do not want to damage my windows
[23:24] <dylan_> what is the name of xfce settings manager program? I can't log into xfce for some reason it keeps crashing and preventing log on, so in kde I was going to try to open the xfce settings and change something
[23:25] <mobi-sheep> Jaunty don't blink "no signal" -- That's your monitor.  It was designed to do that.
[23:25] <Darxus> So what's the procedure for upgrading from a gutsy system with broken packages?
[23:25] <Radic> what is the best irc (text mode) in ubuntu ?
[23:25] <Darxus> Radic: irssi.
[23:25] <mrwes> !best
[23:26] <Radic> thx darxus
[23:26] <calwig> ikonia: lp worked super good, thanks gotta run
[23:26] <Strife89> Has anyone here heard about the bug where Ubuntu won't detect a Rockbox device?
[23:26] <Flannel> Darxus: switch to old-releases.ubuntu.com, then do a full update (to be up to date with Gutsy) then upgrade.
[23:26] <Flannel> Darxus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[23:26] <Strife89> I'm experiencing that very issue, see.
[23:27] <robin0800> Strife89: YEs
[23:27] <Strife89> robin0800: Do you happen to know the workaround?
[23:28] <robin0800> Strife89: Its gnome yes use kde
[23:28] <whoitishhello> hello
[23:29] <whoitishhello> Anyone know a simple way of disable internet access!
[23:29] <jeiworth> sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[23:29] <jeiworth> ;oP
[23:29] <Strife89> whoitishhello: Disabling it?
[23:29] <Enissay> How can i make advanced search in Transmission??
[23:30] <otofrank> Hello tout le monde !!!
[23:30] <whoitishhello> yes for a kids account
[23:30] <Strife89> Right-click on the network icon near the clock and uncheck "Enable Networking".
[23:30] <whoitishhello> Do that before he logs on
[23:31] <BigMoopies> What stops him from redoing it ?
[23:31] <whoitishhello> exactly!
[23:31] <jeiworth> whoitishhello: do you want him/her to have access to the lan or completely turn off networking?
[23:32] <whoitishhello> No lan or internet access
[23:32] <whoitishhello> just preinstalled programs
[23:33] <whoitishhello> also looking for a good writing program for a eight year old!
[23:33] <losher> Dominoeffekt: in principle it is safe to resize partitions, but there's no substitute for having a full backup in case something goes wrong
[23:33] <mobi-sheep> whoitishhello: Something for you?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843510
[23:33] <Darxus> I copied a jaunty sources.list over the one I had for gutsy and am running aptitude install to fix the broken packages.  It's doing all kinds of crazy stuff.  :(
[23:34] <jeiworth> whoitishhello: hmm not sure, might be enough to remove him from dialup, or does that just  work for modem connections?
[23:34] <WebcamWonder> Darxus: With the jaunty lists? That is *bad*
[23:34] <whoitishhello> Behind a router
[23:34] <Darxus> WebcamWonder: What are my options?  Nothing else will work since there are no gutsy archives online anymore.
[23:34] <whoitishhello> Will bookmark link thanks!
[23:35] <WebcamWonder> Darxus: What were the broken packages?
[23:35] <SoylentYellow> Hi all.
[23:35] <SoylentYellow> What are some ways of wiping disks before selling or giving them away (under linux)? I hear just using dd is fine. True?
[23:35] <Darxus> WebcamWonder: Kernel stuff.
[23:35] <Darxus> Newer than what I'm running.
[23:36] <Darxus> I tried removing them.
[23:36] <mobi-sheep> SoylentYellow: True. (IMO).
[23:36] <WebcamWonder> SoylentYellow: True, unless you are selling it to DoD, for which you might want to zero 40 times
[23:36] <jeiworth> SoylentYellow: yes
[23:36] <manouel_cou_2_tr> hi$
[23:36] <myk_robinson> anyone here sucessfully used PDFShuffler? Wonder if I am just having a Jaunty issue. I can view and edit pages, but not export. Program just sits there
[23:36] <gmathews> Hi I am on intrepid, and i would like to upgrade to jaunty. However i would like to upgrade from the server from south africa, but everytime i try to run the upgrade to 9.04 option the server in software sources list keeps changing to the main server. Any ideas?
[23:37] <SoylentYellow> Ok thanks for the info.
[23:37] <SoylentYellow> I'm selling several drives on ebay so I needed some info.
[23:37] <jeiworth> gmathews: probly have to change your location settings to south africa
[23:37] <WebcamWonder> Darxus: hmm... But be sure to run the upgrade scripts after, and do a "real" upgrade
[23:37] <whoitishhello> Guess I could unplug the cat5 cable...   quick and easy untill he figures it out.  haha   Thanks everyone have to run
[23:37] <yaris123456789> is it possible to make wget output file so that the URL is retained somehow and no sub directories are created ?
[23:37] <Darxus> WebcamWonder: That's my plan, thanks.
[23:38] <ghindo> How usable is Gnash at this point?  Is it at the point where it can replace Flash?
[23:38] <Darxus> yaris123456789: Yes :P
[23:38] <nfrs> I've got a weird situation with sshfs and fstab. will be grateful for any help. I've configured the mounting via the fstab. all seems to be well, except that my regular user can't access anything below the mount point (permission denied). this is weird, because "sudo stat" shows my user/group as owner
[23:39] <Darxus> E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6
[23:39] <Darxus> A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
[23:39] <Darxus> Woohoo!
[23:39] <gmathews> jeiworth: where do i do that?
[23:39] <shipitkthx> is it possible to install Gnome on VPS ubuntu server and access it via remote desktop?
[23:39] <ohayoo> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?ð‘¹ð‘°ð‘·ð‘³ð‘¶ð‘³ð‘ºð‘¼ð‘·ð‘®ð‘¼ð’€ð‘º" 0 0
[23:39] <mobi-sheep> nfrs: You might want to try #ubuntu-server too
[23:39] <nfrs> mobi-sheep: thanks
[23:39] <yaris123456789> Darxus: can you tell me how ?? i've been trying to figure ito ut
[23:40] <yaris123456789> Darxus: i need it for to out put for wget -r,   www.site.com_somedir_here_index.html.txt
[23:41] <jeiworth> gmathews: hmm i am running kde and i dont remember where you change that in gnome, i suppose system -> administration is worth a look
[23:41] <jeiworth> or settings
[23:42] <Darxus> yaris123456789: I don't know how.  I'm thinking somethinig like:  echo $url > output ; wget -O output... although that might overwrite the url.
[23:43] <carlito> hi, how can i read C:/ubuntu/disks/root.disk
[23:43] <DICK-GAYLORD> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?" 0 0 0
[23:43] <carlito> or /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk?
[23:44] <nameless`> hi
[23:45] <Darxus>  aptitude install libstdc++6
[23:45] <Darxus> seems to have fixed
[23:45] <Darxus> E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6
[23:46] <wasutton3> i am looking to set up a vpn for my mother and my iphones using our ubuntu home server, what software would you reccomend?
[23:47] <Darxus> Sweet!  aptitude install now runs cleanly without trying to do anything.
[23:47] <Darxus> Now to try the update...
[23:48] <jeiworth> wasutton3: you can try openvpn or freeswan
[23:48] <wasutton3> jeiworth: i tried freeswan but it doesnt appear to want to install