[19:57] <Docteh> better off using aptitude if you're not sure on exact pkg name
[19:58] <aximili> em, seems like it is :)
[19:58] <nit-wit> aximili, pretty much i think
[19:58] <Docteh> Some_Person: you should specify what sort of not working, like at all or scrollwheel?
[19:58] <puch> the nvidia controller doesn't work and isa its verfy inestable to the rpograms to control ipod what can do?
[19:58] <spencer> aximili yes
[19:58] <Some_Person> Docteh: at all
[19:58] <krambiorix> nit-wit, i'm running ubuntu 10.04 and i installed acroread using Ubuntu Software center.... Now when i want to open a PDF in firefox it opens up acroread but acroread crashes....
[19:58] <spencer> aximili Que? Cual es la fecha? <- Kidding, how can we help you?
[19:59] <aximili> i don't need any help thanks
[19:59] <nit-wit> krambiorix, can you purge it and reinstall
[19:59] <Docteh> Some_Person: usb?
[19:59] <aximili> i just run x chat for the first time
[19:59] <Some_Person> Docteh: USB external mouse and PS/2 built-in touchpad
[19:59] <spencer> aximili okay, if you need any help just ask, and good luck with X
[19:59] <Some_Person> Docteh: Neither is working
[19:59] <aximili> thanks, bye guys !
[19:59] <nit-wit> krambiorix, does the stock pdf reader work
[19:59] <Docteh> so two mice not working lol
[20:00] <krambiorix> nit-wit, stock?
[20:00] <Some_Person> Docteh: The mice themselves work fine. Something must be wrong with ubuntu, maybe the X server config?
[20:00] <spencer> anyone needing any general troubleshooting? If not, I'm switching to /offtopic
[20:00] <Docteh> posibly
[20:00] <agentgasmask> Hi guys. I'm looking for a benchmarking program for SSD. I've got a acer aspire one with SSD and want to see what the read/write speed is.
[20:00] <nit-wit> krambiorix, the E document reader in graphics
[20:00] <nirazio> How can use ubuntu in full screen mode via virtual box or any other software ?
[20:01] <Docteh> try cat /dev/psaux in a command window and move your mouse, any garbage show up? then do ctrl+c
[20:01] <spencer> agentgasmask gparted has those capabilities
[20:01] <madduck> Hello. We have a file server at home (SMB, SSH obviously), and my mum runs Ubuntu. What is a good backup software for her to use on-demand, which integrates with GNOME and reminds her when her backups are outdated, and which allows for easy recovery?
[20:01] <Some_Person> You used to be able to reconfigure X with 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', but that doesn't do anything these days? What's the equivilent command nowadays?
[20:01] <krambiorix> nit-wit, i don't have that
[20:01] <ldfsilva> someone for a help ?? ufs partition in write mode on ubuntu
[20:01] <spencer> nirazio if it's openbox, then [host key] plus F works for fullscreening
[20:01] <agentgasmask> spencer: thanks, I'll check that out.
[20:01] <nit-wit> krambiorix, what version of Ubuntu they all come with it installed
[20:01] <tekhneek> I'm trying to mount a remote directory in SSHFS to copy files locally to a remote server -- I have www-data as the owner and permissions are 777 across the board yet I still get errors saying permission denied. What the hell do I have to do to allow myself to copy files into an SSHFS folder via PHP script?
[20:01] <spencer> agentgasmask no problem
[20:01] <tekhneek> $ cp /image-library-network/hotfolder/P00013_lg.jpg /image-library-network/imageset/P00013.jpg
[20:02] <tekhneek> cp: accessing `/image-library-network/imageset/P00013.jpg': Permission denied
[20:02] <Docteh> Some_Person: check if there is an etc xorg.conf
[20:02] <krambiorix> nit-wit, 10.04
[20:02] <Some_Person> Docteh: Nope, doesn't exist
[20:03] <RocketSnail> bk
[20:03] <Docteh> its all automagic then, look at the logs and see whats up
[20:03] <Some_Person> Docteh: What logs should I look at?
[20:03] <ovrflw0x> grub does not show my windows partition after a "Fresh" install! what to do
[20:04] <Docteh> Xorg* in /var/log i think
[20:04] <rcm> hey guys
[20:04] <onlyplayragz> anyone know where i can get basic php support?
[20:04] <RocketSnail> hey
[20:04] <nit-wit> krambiorix, right click the pdf and then look under open with do you see document viewer
[20:05] <ldfsilva> going to compile the kernel.. let's see if it works
[20:05] <RocketSnail> anyone know where I can find a pvc sprinkler valve
[20:05] <ICM> onlyplayragz, try #PHP
[20:05] <spencer> rocketsnail truly incorrect channel, try the local hardware store?
[20:05] <onlyplayragz> i did that thanks
[20:05] <krambiorix> nit-wit, document viewer?
[20:05] <rcm> I just installed lxde with sudo apt-get install lxde, but when I access the server via vnc, the only windows managers that appear are fluxbox (that I installed before) and openbox, there shouldnt be lxde? btw my server has ubuntu server 10.10
[20:05] <RocketSnail> oh there isn't a pvc channel is there :p or a plumbing?
[20:06] <ICM> Strange, it's overflowing, onlyplayragz
[20:06] <Pici> RocketSnail: Try #help or maybe #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:06] <RocketSnail> I doubt it?
[20:06] <tekhneek> Anyone have any ideas?
[20:06] <Docteh> it'd be ##plumbing
[20:06] <spencer> rocketsnail your local hardware store would be happy to help
[20:06] <onlyplayragz> ok
[20:06] <RocketSnail> '
[20:06] <RocketSnail> okay thanks guys!
[20:06] <Docteh> unofficial channel for plumbing lol
[20:06] <nirazio> spencer: How to find the host key??
[20:06] <agentgasmask> spencer: Any tips on starting a test like that in gparted? I cant seem to find the option.
[20:07] <spencer> agentgasmask lemme fire it up
[20:07] <Some_Person> Docteh: I see no mention of a mouse in Xorg.0.log
[20:07] <virtual110> ciao a tutti
[20:07] <agentgasmask> spencer: Thanks
[20:07] <krambiorix> nit-wit, i see in /opt that i have 2 different versions of acrobat
[20:08] <spencer> agentgasmask my bad, it's disk utility that does that
[20:08] <nit-wit> krambiorix, just right click the pdf under open with what do you see
[20:08] <Roots> If anyone here knows a good method for producing a list of target files/locations when running make install, I could use your advice here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=4199199#post4199199
[20:08] <virtual110> ho installato amule ho scaricato file musicali li legge ma non li vedo nela catella sono offuscati cosa devo fare?
[20:08] <agentgasmask> spencer: can you be a little more specific?
[20:08] <krambiorix> nit-wit, adobe reader  and acrobat
[20:09] <krambiorix> acrobat -> acroread
[20:09] <kozminel> i have an error while installin ubuntu tweak
[20:09] <kozminel> who can help me?
[20:09] <spencer> agentgasmask system>administration>disk utility
[20:09] <sgerbino> hey buntoids :]
[20:09] <spencer> virtual110 no hablamos espanol
[20:10] <nit-wit> krambiorix, when you right click and move the mouse to open with all you see is adobe stuff
[20:10] <agentgasmask> spencer: oh, ok. I thought you said "a disk utility". I didn't relize that the program it self was called "Disk Utility". :)
[20:10] <XiaolinDraconis> Disk Utility is the crap they replace gparted with
[20:10] <spencer> agentgasmask it's okay, you just select the drive and hit the conveniently-named "benchmark"
[20:10] <Alarm> hello. i have installed mplayer and mplayer-skin-blue,  unfortunately there is no shortcut icon in my menu, neither do i see a front end when starting mplayer from console
[20:11] <Alarm> any suggestions how to see the interface of mplayer ?
[20:11] <spencer> Alarm try totem?
[20:11] <kozminel> spencer
[20:11] <Alarm> why should i when i want play mplayer ?
[20:11] <kozminel> while installing ubuntu tweak
[20:11] <kozminel> i get this error
[20:11] <kozminel> Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 768, in simulate     return self._simulate_helper(trans, status_path)   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 841, in _simulate_helper     self._cache)   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/apt/debfile.py", line 57, in __init__     self.open(filename)   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/apt/debf
[20:11] <spencer> kozminel can you try typing it all in one line, or use pastebin
[20:12] <krambiorix> nit-wit yes
[20:12] <tunist> hi, can anyone explain why the ubuntu installer crashes when installing on an intel quadcore..? there's a screenshot of where it gets up to here: http://www.growforall.co.uk/images/IMG_0360.JPG ... both 32bit and 64bit versions of 10.10 get stuck this way
[20:12] <cptblood> is there hw acceleration support for flash videos, if so, how?
[20:13] <kozminel> any idea for my problem?
[20:13] <spencer> kozminel can I PM?
[20:13] <kozminel> i-m using an online irc program
[20:14] <kozminel> i don't know if you can
[20:14] <nit-wit> krambiorix, when you right click the pdf then click properties then open with what are the choices
[20:15] <krambiorix> nitwit, acroread, Adobe Reader 9, Document Viewer
[20:15] <nit-wit> krambiorix, this is what my right click pdf open wth looks like. http://imagebin.org/128973
[20:16] <XiaolinDraconis> please tell me theres an easier way
[20:16] <XiaolinDraconis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1287602
[20:16] <XiaolinDraconis> grub cant have gotten this difficult
[20:16] <nit-wit> krambiorix, you have added adobe products from the web site correct besides acroread correct
[20:17] <Milp_main> quick, someone help me, i need a script that converts 200k files nested in 16k directories with all sorts of special characters from mixed upper-lowercase to lowercase only
[20:17] <krambiorix> nit-wit, yeah could be
[20:17] <Milp_main> i tried all sorts of googled solutions and none seemed to work
[20:17] <Milp_main> oh, before i forget: please :)
[20:17] <krambiorix> so i have to uninstall acrobat 9 then?
[20:17] <Pici> Milp_main: filenames?
[20:17] <cptblood> is vaapi the ati version of vdpau?
[20:18] <Pici> Milp_main: I mean you want the filenames converted to lowercase, or the file contents?
[20:18] <Milp_main> names only please
[20:18] <nit-wit> krambiorix, the document viewer in the open with click on it, then try clicking on the pdf then. your a MS user aren't you
[20:18] <Milp_main> and it has to work recusrively and for folders too
[20:18] <krambiorix> nit-wit, no i'm not
[20:19] <Flipper> hello
[20:19] <krambiorix> nit-wit, i'm using ubuntu since it came out
[20:19] <nit-wit> krambiorix, just trying to figure out your skill level since this is such a easy thng
[20:19] <XiaolinDraconis> please tell me i can do this grub2 stuff easier
[20:19] <sam-_-> tunist, you may try various kernel options http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
[20:19] <linear4> Milp_main: try using rename?
[20:19] <XiaolinDraconis> i have two identically named ubuntu's in my list
[20:19] <Flipper> help
[20:20] <XiaolinDraconis> and no easy way to change it
[20:20] <nit-wit> XiaolinDraconis, 2 kernel lines correct
[20:20] <XiaolinDraconis> yeah
[20:20] <krambiorix> nit-wit, yes ok, but which one to use?
[20:20] <XiaolinDraconis> i installed lucid twice
[20:20] <linear4> Milp_main: rename 'y/a-z/A-Z/' *
[20:20] <Pici> Milp_main: How about: find /path/to/files/ -type f | xargs rename 'y/A-Z/a-z/'
[20:20] <nit-wit> XiaolinDraconis, the second is important for repairs
[20:21] <XiaolinDraconis> no no i removed all those lines somehow
[20:21] <linear4> oh to lowercase.. what Pici said
[20:21] <XiaolinDraconis> ubuntu tweak i think
[20:21] <ikonia> Please try to avoid ubuntu tweak
[20:21] <XiaolinDraconis> why?
[20:21] <tunist> thanks sam, i'll play with those and see if i can find any more info
[20:22] <XiaolinDraconis> ikonia whats wrong with tweak
[20:22] <sam-_-> tunist, i would start with debug and acpi=off
[20:22] <Milp_main> linear4 that is not recursive, is it? :/ Pici: what do you mean by /path/to/files/ ? its a giant directory tree as a whole that i need to 'translate' ;)
[20:22] <nit-wit> XiaolinDraconis, righ you removed whole kernel sets the have a main kernel and a recover/repair, not the same recovery as a MS system though
[20:22] <ikonia> XiaolinDraconis: it can cause damage by scripting things which are already available in ubuntu
[20:22] <Pici> Milp_main: wherever the 'root' of your directory tree that you want to modify is.
[20:22] <XiaolinDraconis> nit-wit: i dont know what your saying
[20:23] <nit-wit> krambiorix, using Ubuntu since it came out which one 10.10
[20:23] <linear4> Milp_main: no that would be one directory. uh. not the best solution.. very strange one, but I would get a file with all the dirs using ls -RA and awk print whatever and then do a for loop with head and tail to do each directory at once. strange but it's what comes to my mind.
[20:23] <krambiorix> 4.10
[20:23] <XiaolinDraconis> ikonia: only seem available if you know scipting
[20:23] <nit-wit> XiaolinDraconis, I know it's quite obvios
[20:23] <Milp_main> Pici oh ok i will try that
[20:23] <ikonia> XiaolinDraconis: no, everything you can do in ubuntu tweak you can do without it
[20:23] <Milp_main> linear4 uh i barely understood any of that lol :D
[20:23] <krambiorix> but i use it cause i was fed up with ms win... I'm a user, not a hard core fan
[20:23] <linear4> Milp_main: Just do what Pici said it'll work much easier lol.
[20:24] <Milp_main> lol alright
[20:24] <XiaolinDraconis> ikonia: only for scripters
[20:24] <Milp_main> thanks
[20:24] <ikonia> XiaolinDraconis: no, for anyone
[20:24] <nit-wit> XiaolinDraconis, the irc is not a good place to l;earn
[20:24] <tunist> sam - which file do i need to edit to use these flags?
[20:24] <XiaolinDraconis> sorry but i dont understand -dfsdfg +asdfjhsdfgh/// >wtf
[20:24] <Dcite> XiaolinDraconis: I don't think that's in the document.
[20:24] <XiaolinDraconis> nit-wit: seems great to me i learned a lot so far
[20:24] <sam-_-> tunist, no need to edit a file. it's boot option
[20:25] <XiaolinDraconis> no but it is in os-probe file
[20:25] <nit-wit> XiaolinDraconis, you might try #ubuntu-beginners as well
[20:25] <sam-_-> tunist, you need to add them manually
[20:25] <anodesni> Hi, how can I change the webcam used in empathy?
[20:25] <c0mrade> I am chatting from ubuntu using pidgin.
[20:25] <c0mrade> Really nice design here.
[20:25] <c0mrade> hehe.
[20:26] <pupuserc1803c> hello!
[20:26] <Dcite> XiaolinDraconis: I still don't see that line.. the page already says which command and what to change..
[20:26] <cptblood> which gfx cards are vaapi compatible? cant find a chart
[20:26] <nit-wit> XiaolinDraconis, you think you have but your not understanding some basic stuff,nor able to describe it in a technical manner, at whose expense have you learned3d I have to ask
[20:26] <armageddon900> does anybody know of any good security chanels on irc
[20:26] <XiaolinDraconis> lol yes Dcite i was being a little sarcastic
[20:26] <vola> salve qualcuno parla italiano
[20:26] <XiaolinDraconis> some of that stuff is in a foreign language... at least to me it is
[20:26] <Pici> !it | vola
[20:27] <GaryD> does anyone know how to completely uninstall assistive technology? i do not use it at all.
[20:27] <Dcite> XiaolinDraconis: If you don't get a certain step, just ask in teh channel I'm sure soeone wil explain
[20:27] <c0mrade_-> yeah.
[20:27] <nit-wit> XiaolinDraconis, if we had a picture of the terminal after running sudo update-grub it would help
[20:27] <c0mrade_-> Can chat from the virtual maching and from my windows box.
[20:27] <c0mrade_-> Cool.
[20:27] <vola> grazie
[20:28] <nit-wit> XiaolinDraconis, or a paste bin of the out put
[20:28] <grendal_prime> whos good with cron?
[20:28] <XiaolinDraconis> and this is why i love ubuntu
[20:28] <Some_Person> Please somebody help me get my mouse working. I don't want to use Linux in the commandline
[20:28] <XiaolinDraconis> thank you guys
[20:28]  * Some_Person currently has irssi in tty1, elinks in tty2, and a command line for doing things in tty3
[20:28] <XiaolinDraconis> well linux period since Puppy users were also this friendly
[20:28] <grendal_prime> if i create a cron job that runs every min is there a way to have it check to see if there is already an instance running before it starts again?
[20:28] <St0181> hello there can some1 help me with irc
[20:29] <XiaolinDraconis> ok im gonna follow those steps to detail as much as possible
[20:29] <Praxi> I'm trying to learn about symbolic links, reading the wikipedia article, and trying to relate it to things I know in windows.  Whats the difference between a windows shortcut and a symbolic link?
[20:29] <XiaolinDraconis> ill report back when i run into trouble
[20:29] <ikonia> St0181: irc help can be found in the channel #freenode
[20:29] <St0181> ok
[20:29] <erUSUL> grendal_prime: use a pidfile? should be the easier form i think
[20:30] <anodesni> Hi, how can I change the webcam used in empathy?
[20:30] <ikonia> anodesni: do you have multiple web cams on your system ?
[20:30] <anodesni> ikonia, yes
[20:30] <ikonia> anodesni: interesting, what device file are you currently using for your web cam
[20:30] <anodesni> ikonia, one build in in my laptop,
[20:31] <GaryD> never mind...i found it
[20:31] <anodesni> ikonia, I want to use an external one,
[20:31] <erUSUL> anodesni: change it in gstreamer-properties ? i guess empathy uses gstreamer
[20:31] <anodesni> erUSUL, tnx
[20:31] <ikonia> anodesni: in the empathy config, what device does it say it's using (/dev/video for example)
[20:31] <anodesni> lets try
[20:32] <Some_Person> Does X have absolutely no way at all to configure it nowadays?
[20:32] <ikonia> Some_Person: yes many ways
[20:32] <Pici> Some_Person: Create an xorg.conf file and it will honor it.
[20:32] <XiaolinDraconis> ok i think before i even get started i need to update-grub and reboot to see what changes it makes since i have edited somethings with gurb already
[20:32] <erUSUL> Some_Person: the same ways as allways ... xorg.conf is aboyed if it is present
[20:32] <brianfreud> when I pipe text, how would I go about adding in a foo such that  (something) | foo | (something2) passes only the last line of something to something2?
[20:32] <XiaolinDraconis> *burg
[20:32] <apoel> where can i find commands to work on ubuntu server edition?
[20:33] <Some_Person> Does the live CD use an xorg.conf?
[20:33] <ikonia> Some_Person: no
[20:33] <Milp_main> it seemed to hve worked, thanks pici!
[20:33] <erUSUL> !cli | apoel
[20:33] <ikonia> apoel: just ask what you need
[20:33]  * Some_Person is trying to figure out why a fresh lucid install has a non-working mouse
[20:33] <erUSUL> Milp_main: you were lucky there was no filenames with spaces ;P
[20:33] <willi_> cw=Z]QxODP^OCP^ODP^OCP^K1QxOCP^ODP^OCP^LD
[20:33] <willi_> cw=Z]N{QyODP^OCP^ODP^OCP^K3QyODP^OCQxOCP^ODP^O}
[20:33] <willi_> cw=Z]K=QyODP^OCQxODP^LiQxOCQxOCP^OP
[20:33] <willi_> cw=Z]OsQxMkQxOCP^ODQyODP^M>QxOCQxOCP]NP
[20:33] <FloodBot1> willi_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:33] <willi_> cw=Z]JsQxOCP^ODQyJAQyODP^OCPr
[20:33] <histo> Some_Person: depends no your hardware.  What are you running?
[20:33]  * ikonia thinks Some_Person should stop using /me or eomte commands
[20:33] <histo> willi_: stop
[20:34]  * histo agrees
[20:34] <sam-_-> tunist, if you press f6 it will give you a list of options also you can then edit them manually
[20:34] <Some_Person> histo: Gateway M-6866. The built-in Synaptic touchpad and my external Logitech USB laser mouse are both not working
[20:34] <Milp_main> erUSUL WAIT WHAT? oh god then it might not have worked after all
[20:35] <phurl> hi all
[20:35] <baudsmoke> hello everyone
[20:35] <histo> Some_Person: try just using one mouse
[20:35] <phurl> anyone have the problem that supertux is blinking all  the time?
[20:35] <spencer> hi phurl and baudsmoke
[20:35] <histo> Some_Person: and starting X
[20:35] <Some_Person> histo: Already tried that. No change
[20:35] <phurl> i am getting a headache!
[20:35] <histo> Some_Person: does lsusb show the logitech?
[20:35] <Some_Person> histo: yes
[20:36] <erUSUL> Milp_main: this should be fine « find /path/to/files/ -type f -execdir rename 'y/A-Z/a-z/' + » or if you insist i using xargs ... « find /path/to/files/ -type f -print0 | xargs -0 rename 'y/A-Z/a-z/' »
[20:36] <erUSUL> Milp_main: this should be fine « find /path/to/files/ -type f -execdir rename 'y/A-Z/a-z/' '{}' + » or if you insist i using xargs ... « find /path/to/files/ -type f -print0 | xargs -0 rename 'y/A-Z/a-z/' »
[20:36]  * brianfreud wonders if someone has a functional bulk flac tester for ubuntu...  I'm trying this and it won't work:  find '/media/Music' -name "*.flac" -type f -print0 | tail -n 1 | xargs -0 flac -t | tail -n 1 2>output.log
[20:36] <erUSUL> Milp_main: sorry typo
[20:37] <XiaolinDraconis> before i go
[20:37] <ignitedcoding> !! I installed chrome on ubuntu. Now whenever I click a link in IRC, Email, or IM it opens in chrome. How do I fix this?
[20:37] <brianfreud> sorry, typo:  find '/media/Music' -name "*.flac" -type f -print0 | xargs -0 flac -t | tail -n 1 2>output.log
[20:37] <histo> Some_Person: no idea there. Maybe a post on the forums or check out some of the docs
[20:37] <histo> !mouse > Some_Person
[20:37] <relachs> hi there
[20:37] <erUSUL> brianfreud: what is the tail between find and xargs doing?
[20:37] <ignitedcoding> sorry ubottu : wasn't talking to you
[20:37] <histo> ignitedcoding: change the default browser
[20:37] <brianfreud> erUSUL: Was a typo :P
[20:37] <ikonia> Some_Person: build an xorg config and hard code the mouse settings
[20:37] <XiaolinDraconis> i just ran update-grub and it says found background image plasma.tga .... but that is not the theme im using
[20:37] <histo> ignitedcoding: system > preferences > preferred apps
[20:38] <Some_Person> histo: But my mouse doesn't have "extra buttons" and I'm not using a serial mouse
[20:38] <brianfreud> Best possible world, I'd find a linux equiv to audiotester
[20:38] <Some_Person> ikonia: I feel like doing that in the command line would be hell :-(
[20:38] <relachs> I'm wondering if you could tell me if it is possible to decrypt an email pgp message without my Passphrase?! I only have a private key :/
[20:38] <ignitedcoding> histo: thank you.
[20:38] <ogelami> if im in linux and have mistakenly deleted my windows bootsector how do i get it back?
[20:38] <ignitedcoding> oh so much better
[20:39] <erUSUL> relachs: nope; you need the passphrase to unlock the private key
[20:39] <ikonia> Some_Person: yes the livecd, or use another machine and copy the file onto your machine
[20:39] <ogelami> i want my computer to standardly boot as windows7
[20:39] <XiaolinDraconis> ogelami: you put the disk in and open recovery
[20:39] <XiaolinDraconis> something about fixmbr
[20:39] <ogelami> i formatted the partition
[20:39] <tunist> @sam: i did see the F6 option at one point .. possibly using a different install image.. the one i have now is not responding to F6
[20:39] <relachs> erUSUL: so it's not possible :/
[20:39] <Some_Person> ikonia: Ok, I'll reboot and then ask for instructions. Thank you
[20:39] <erUSUL> relachs: no afaics
[20:39] <sam-_-> tunist, version of ubuntu?
[20:39] <ogelami> i dont want linux and im using a live cd, i still have the win7 os
[20:39] <XiaolinDraconis> google it or search forums gives a good description
[20:39] <nit-wit> ogelami, I just looged on again whats going on
[20:39] <nit-wit> logged
[20:40] <tunist> 10.10 - both 32 and 64
[20:40] <shadaloo> ogelami trust me dude you want linux
[20:40] <XiaolinDraconis> so true
[20:40] <nit-wit> ogelami, PM
[20:40] <ogelami> shadaloo, its for my brother hes 6 and i and he dont know shit about driver fixing
[20:40] <XiaolinDraconis> yeah im a bad helper
[20:40] <shadaloo> shaolin forever
[20:40] <histo> !ohmy | ogelami
[20:40] <ogelami> so id say fuck linux its way to hardcore
[20:41] <shadaloo> ogelami trust me he will learn the fastest
[20:41] <tunist> sam: the install screen is black with a glowing white ubuntu logo
[20:41] <ogelami> and he cant play games and stuff
[20:41] <spencer> ogelami language please
[20:41] <nit-wit> XiaolinDraconis, it is all good
[20:41] <ogelami> sorry spencer
[20:41] <tunist> sam: not the red/pink one
[20:41] <XiaolinDraconis> thanks nit
[20:41] <IdleOne> !language | ogelami
[20:41] <Praxi> ogelami: I got my kids box working using playonlinux
[20:41] <sam-_-> tunist maybe you have to press  escape first
[20:41] <ikonia> ogelami: linux is not really a gaming platform at this time.
[20:41] <Praxi> had some easy installers for most games, about the only one I couldn't get working that they wanted was toon town
[20:41] <nit-wit> the #ubuntu-beginner channel is pretty clear right now for dialogue
[20:42] <tunist> sam: ah, escape goes to a command line with 'boot'
[20:42] <ogelami> he is six, my mom dont know how to operate a linux and i dont live here.
[20:42] <paradoxic> Is there a way to avoid being prompted for mysql root password details when using apt-get to install mysql server?
[20:42] <tunist> so tap the codes in there?
[20:42] <ogelami> its simple, let him do what ever he want
[20:42] <ikonia> ogelami: if you want games, Linux may not be the best option for you.
[20:43] <Praxi> ya true that ogelami , I have to help the kids a lot with their linux pc.  works great for them for web surfing though :)
[20:43] <XiaolinDraconis> ikonia: do you think you might know this issue
[20:43] <ikonia> XiaolinDraconis: issue to what ?
[20:43] <XiaolinDraconis> i have burg installed changed a theme
[20:43] <XiaolinDraconis> just now i ran update grub
[20:43] <ogelami> =)
[20:44] <ikonia> XiaolinDraconis: I have no idea what burg is
[20:44] <XiaolinDraconis> its a grub2 theme manager
[20:44] <XiaolinDraconis> well it does more than just that
[20:44] <ikonia> XiaolinDraconis: is it in the ubuntu repos /
[20:44] <ikonia> ?
[20:44] <naiad> I have two monitors and I am trying to have 1 in portrait and 1 in landscape while still having gl for compiz.  I'm using the nvidia closed drivers does anyone know if this is possible?  I've read a couple places that it wont be until the drivers change and I'm just trying to confirm
[20:44] <ikonia> !infor burg
[20:44] <XiaolinDraconis> no
[20:44] <ikonia> XiaolinDraconis: how did you install it ?
[20:44] <XiaolinDraconis> added a repo
[20:45] <ikonia> XiaolinDraconis: from where
[20:45] <sam-_-> tunist use my name if u ask me. you might get lost otherwise
[20:45] <XiaolinDraconis> lemme double check
[20:45] <Praxi> Trying to install Snorby on ubuntu server 10.04 x64. Using this guide https://github.com/Snorby/snorby/wiki/Ubuntu-1.9.2-without-RVM-by-Eric-Peters .  when I run rake snorby:setup I get this error http://github.com/mephux/ezprint.git (at rails3) is not checked out. Please run `bundle install` .... Running bundle install appears successful but I still get the same error.  I probably have lots...
[20:45] <Praxi> ...of competing versions of ruby/rails/rvm and I don't know how to clean them off.
[20:45] <tunist> sam: ok sure ;)
[20:46] <Praxi> ogelami if you still have a windows partition, and just want to make it work, use your windows cd and goto a recovery console, its fdisk /mbr to rebuild boot record
[20:46] <XiaolinDraconis> launchpad
[20:46] <ogelami> Praxi, i dont have the win7 cd no more
[20:47] <ikonia> ogelami: the guys in ##windows will be able to help you
[20:47] <Praxi> thats not good hehe, couple of guys in here mentioned how to do with with the linux cd
[20:47] <lunks> How can I SSH into a host, map a remote port to a local port, and not get console access, just the port forwarding?
[20:47] <s3rris> um hi i need some help installing ubuntu.
[20:47] <ikonia> s3rris: explain your issue
[20:47] <ogelami> okay thanks ikonia
[20:48] <Praxi> anyone have any ideas on how to completely remove Rails/Ruby/RVM?
[20:48] <s3rris> I have a 2GB flashdrive and i'm currently running on OSX 10.4. I just need to know if that'll be good enough for installing ubuntu on a partioned HD.
[20:48] <ikonia> s3rris: you want to use the usb disk as an installer, or as the target disk for the install
[20:48] <sam-_-> tunist, one sec i will investigate
[20:48] <Some_Person> Nevermind, I actually got the mouse to work: seems I still had some old Linux kernels left on here from my old maverick install, and was booting one of those
[20:49] <s3rris> ummm i want to install Ubuntu using a USB stick :|
[20:49] <ikonia> s3rris: ok, then that 2GB stick should be enough
[20:49] <Some_Person> What kernel version *should* lucid have?
[20:49] <pankaj> how to connect to internet in ubuntu
[20:50] <pankaj> ?
[20:50]  * VanDamas http://www.bbsex.org/index.php You must see that!
[20:50] <s3rris> also can i drag and drop all of my shit from OSX to Ubuntu?
[20:50] <Pici> Some_Person: 2.6.32-21.32 at install or 2.6.32-27.49 with all updates.
[20:50] <s3rris> i have no idea if this is possible.
[20:50] <ikonia> s3rris: control your language
[20:50] <Pici> s3rris: Please mind your language here.
[20:50] <s3rris> oh. sorry :P
[20:50] <sgerbino> lol
[20:50] <ikonia> s3rris: ubuntu can read HFS partitions but not write to them
[20:51] <kozminel> while i recive a file using pidgin i get a message "file transfer from .... failed" .... canceled the file transfer of... " but my friend doesn't canceled the file. i am on linux and he is on windows, using yahoo messenger
[20:51] <s3rris> so... i have to partion in OSX first? 0_0
[20:51] <lunks> How can I SSH into a host, map a remote port to a local port, and not get console access, just the port forwarding?
[20:51] <ikonia> kozminel: yahoo messanger support is scetchy at best
[20:51] <Some_Person> Pici: I have neither of those. I have 2.6.32-24, 2.6.35-19, 2.6.35-20, 2.6.35-21, and 2.6.35-22. I should remove *.25-*, right?
[20:51] <lunks> Praxi, sudo apt-get remove rails ruby && rm -rf ~/.rvm
[20:51] <kozminel> is what?
[20:51] <Some_Person> s/*.25-*/*.35-*
[20:51] <ikonia> Some_Person: sounds like your install is in a real mess, I'd look at a clean install so you are on known solid ground
[20:52] <Pici> Some_Person: Are you using maverick or lucid?
[20:52] <Some_Person> Pici: Lucid
[20:52] <Some_Person> maverick was fail on here
[20:52] <pankaj> whats the command for java installation .. plz tell me
[20:52] <postdiction> anybody here know how to change MAC address in the 10.10?
[20:52] <kozminel> ikonia what?
[20:52] <Some_Person> I thought I had formatted the drive when I installed, but I didn't
[20:52] <scala1024> hi
[20:52] <ikonia> !java >> postdiction
[20:52] <ikonia> kozminel: yahoo messanger support is poor and changes a lot as yahoo change their closed source protocol
[20:53] <postdiction> I used macchanger but, network-manager just changes it back to the hardware address
[20:53] <Tonisius> What places would set the hostname of a system?  /etc/hostname, /etc/hosts, where else could it be set?  The login prompt still shows "(none)" as the hostname
[20:53] <Tonisius> server has been rebooted several times
[20:53] <kozminel> ok..
[20:53] <ikonia> Tonisius: what does uname -a whos
[20:53] <ikonia> show
[20:53] <kozminel> what protocol should i use?
[20:53] <Pici> Some_Person: Yes.  The -35 versions are from Maverick.
[20:53] <pankaj> !java
[20:53] <kozminel> any idea?
[20:53] <Tonisius> Linuz (none) ......
[20:53] <Tonisius> Linux (none)....
[20:54] <Tonisius> ikonia: yeah...
[20:54] <ikonia> Tonisius: yeah what
[20:54] <scala1024> Sun -> is meanwhile Oracle ;-)
[20:55] <postdiction> anybody?
[20:55] <Tonisius> ikonia: how do I set the Hostname of the system, so it persists.
[20:55] <Tonisius> I pasted the information that you requested
[20:55] <yaaar> anybody use openvz on 10.04? is there a repo someplace for it? i see that apparently the only reason it wasn't included in universe was that the kernel maintainers said the packaging process would take too long and that it was too close to the freeze date... https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2010-March/009306.html
[20:55] <ikonia> Tonisius: /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts should be enough
[20:55] <ikonia> Tonisius: unless your hostname is being set by dhcp
[20:56] <Tonisius> ikonia: static configured interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:56] <jbsoum> hellppp
[20:56] <ikonia> Tonisius: so /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts should be enough
[20:56] <guntbert> !hostname > Tonisius
[20:56] <jbsoum> i cant seem to figure out how to run my dual boot without the windows 7 bootloader
[20:57] <tblandgi> hi ppl
[20:57] <tblandgi> try my channel on freenode #GiraffyNet
[20:57] <Tonisius> guntbert: they match, the <IP_ADDRESS> is set to localhost, the ip <IP_ADDRESS> is set to "lolcat."  and "lolcat" and the /etc/hostname is set to "lolcat."
[20:58] <majnoon_> wtg ikonia
[20:58] <postdiction> what did he do?
[20:58] <vipul> how can i open application through terminal
[20:59] <majnoon_> ban a driveby spammer
[20:59] <postdiction> oh gj ikonia
[21:00] <guntbert> Tonisius: did you log out/in after changing them?
[21:00] <vipul> Can any one tell me if i have open skypy through terminal what will be the commands to open it
[21:01] <ikonia> vipul: "skype"
[21:01] <vipul> yes
[21:01] <ikonia> vipul: that's the command
[21:02] <vipul> ikonia,  thanks
[21:02] <jbsoum> ive looked everywhere but i cant seem to find a way to do it
[21:03] <Some_Person> Pici: Ok, I've removed all the .35 versions, and if nothing else goes wrong, I'll leave it like this. Else, I'll wipe and reinstall
[21:03] <StrangeCharm> how can i replace evolution with tunderbird in the communication menu?
[21:03] <Pici> Some_Person: Good luck!
[21:03] <YankeesFan> is it worth to upgrade to tri core over dual core?
[21:03] <Some_Person> It is nice having all my old settings still here
[21:03] <guntbert> YankeesFan: how is that an ubuntu support question?
[21:03] <erUSUL> YankeesFan: depends on what you do with your computer
[21:04] <YankeesFan> ok does ubuntu work with triple core amds?
[21:04] <erUSUL> yes
[21:04] <YankeesFan> i never heard of triple core until today =(
[21:04] <nirazio> How to hide the present working directory in terminal and show time instead??
[21:04] <doriangrey> Hello anyone is using festival on ubuntu 10.10 maverik? i am not able to make it working...
[21:04] <ikonia> nirazio: look at the PS1 variable
[21:05] <jbsoum> anyone know how to boot windows 7 from grub without the windows 7 bootloader?
[21:05] <YankeesFan> my netbook dual core cpu is great but it dosent handal virtualbox well which is what i need for college
[21:05] <ikonia> jbsoum: you can't, grub has to boot the windows boot loader
[21:05] <erUSUL> nirazio: you have to tweak your PS1 var ( ~/.bashrc )
[21:08] <vipul> but i am trying to open skype via ssh  but it's not opening
[21:08] <jbsoum> (ikonia): i understand that, but there should be a way to boot windows automatically when i select windows from grub. also, there should be a way to see grub first, without having to make an addtiont to the windows bootloader for grub
[21:08] <ikonia> vipul: it's not going to, it requires local sound card/hardware
[21:08] <thansen> so what's the difference between an LTS deskto and server release?  I mean, they all come from the same repos so why would the time be any different?
[21:09] <vipul> ikonia,  ? sory i dont understand ?
[21:09] <ikonia> vipul: you can't use skype over ssh
[21:09] <lollo> ciao a tutti
[21:09] <ikonia> jbsoum: grub should auto detect windows for you and add the line, it sometimes fails to do this
[21:09] <guntbert> !it | lollo
[21:09] <lollo> !list
[21:10] <lollo> ok
[21:10] <vipul> well i am using putty and connected to my ubuntu 10.04 and i am giving this command skype , but it's not opening
[21:10] <ikonia> vipul: what part of "you can't do that" am I not making clear to you ?
[21:10] <StrangeCharm> vipul, what are you expecting to happen when you issue the command 'skype'
[21:10] <noonian> vipul, skype is a gui program, you probably not going to be able to use it over putty
[21:11] <vipul> it shud open on ubuntu
[21:11] <ikonia> vipul: no it won't
[21:11] <ikonia> vipul: it requires local hardware, and it requires an X11 server, that your not running on your windows machine
[21:11] <ikonia> vipul: it won't work
[21:11] <LWSDesigns> Bacon Backgammon
[21:11] <ikonia> LWSDesigns: ?
[21:11] <vipul> ok
[21:11] <Ileden> Any idea how to troubleshoot or diagnose a weird WLAN problem? I'm having around 20% packet loss on two laptops (T and E). T's problem appeared after upgrade to 10.10, and it still works when running older kernel. E is new, and running 10.10 too, but it dualboots Win7, where WLAN works flawless. There is also a 3rd laptop, A, which runs 10.04 and wlan works. Wired network is ok. The problem comes and goes, sometimes can't even connect to the WLAN. Changing channel
[21:11] <loculinux-client> hola
[21:11] <LWSDesigns> lol
[21:11] <kozminel> where i could find "Software Sources..." in ubuntu 10.10?
[21:12] <thansen> so what's the difference between an LTS deskto and server release?  I mean, they all come from the same repos so why would the time be any different?
[21:12] <Darael> vipul: If you want it to run on your Ubuntu box you can issue "DISPLAY=:0 skype", but if you want to run it on your Ubuntu machine with the interface on your Windows box, you can't do that.
[21:12] <ikonia> LWSDesigns: something funny ?
[21:12] <globus> heyy i wants to use tsocks to run wine Poker in ubuntu,i think is a problem on the wine when i run:tsocks wine PokerStars.exe,console says:fixme:winsock:NtStatusToWSAError Status code 7bc473ae converted to DOS error code 7bc473ae
[21:12] <kozminel> where i could find "Software Sources..." in ubuntu 10.10?
[21:12] <LWSDesigns> the boy got a hold of the laptop
[21:12] <coz_> thansen,   /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:12] <globus> someone help me?
[21:12] <xangua> kozminel: in software center preferences
[21:12] <vipul> thanks Darael
[21:12] <ikonia> vipul: it won't work
[21:12] <kozminel> thanks
[21:12] <LWSDesigns> I have no idea where he came up with that...
[21:13] <StrangeCharm> vipul, what are you expecting to be the response when you run that command?
[21:13] <thansen> coz_: I use gentoo so I can open that, can you just give me a heads up as to what info it has in there (besides the actual repos)
[21:13] <thansen> *can't
[21:13] <Darael> ikonia: Really?  I've normally been able to open programs using SSH by setting $DISPLAY... just not to forward them locally (for the reasons you suggested)
[21:13] <coz_> thansen,  its just the repo addresses in that file
[21:13] <ikonia> thansen: few subtle differences (kernel for example)
[21:14] <globus> heyy i wants to use tsocks to run wine Poker in ubuntu,i think is a problem on the wine when i run:tsocks wine PokerStars.exe,console says:fixme:winsock:NtStatusToWSAError Status code 7bc473ae converted to DOS error code 7bc473ae
[21:14] <ikonia> Darael: skype requires local hardware, eg: sound card
[21:14] <thansen> is it just that mulitverse/universe/whatever aren't maintained as long or something
[21:14] <breadcrumb> globus, you might want to try #winehq
[21:14] <ikonia> thansen: main resource is the support term, 5 years on server, 3 on desktop
[21:14] <kozminel> Ubuntu 9.10  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin-developers/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[21:14] <Darael> ikonia: Exactly.  So if you open it on the remote display, it should be fine, if unusable because you're not at the remote machine.
[21:14] <vipul> StrangeCharm,  i thought there must be some way to login my remote machine via ssh and login to my skype
[21:14] <kozminel> is this good for 10.10 ?
[21:15] <ikonia> Darael: how is the sound from the remote/local sound card going to get to your local machine
[21:15] <Darael> vipul: In that case, ikonia is right.  You can't do that.
[21:15] <xangua> kozminel: no, go to pidgin.im
[21:15] <thansen> ikonia: but they don't take the others offline after that right..meaning they're still available until main is gone as well
[21:15] <ohzie> Hey I'm using lucid and it looks like Nautilus isn't automounting usb devices? Mostly a vanilla install. Any suggestions on what could cause that?
[21:15] <ohzie> or what service handles automounting?
[21:15] <kozminel> ok
[21:15] <StrangeCharm> vipul, one step at a time. what do you think you should see happen right after sending that command?
[21:15] <Darael> ikonia: No, that's what I mean.  Opening it with X11 forwarding would be pointless, but you could open it on the remote display from SSH (though why you'd want to is another matter)
[21:15] <ikonia> thansen: the others are taken offline when they hit EOL
[21:15] <itaylor57> kozminel: Try Applications -> Unbuntu software center update
[21:16] <rj_> I have a question about btrfs. I'm putting /boot on a small thumb drive, but want the rest of the filesystem in a btrfs raid. I've been able to put root into a btrfs system, but not into a raid, since you can't change from non-raid to raid. Is there a way to do this?
[21:16] <ikonia> Darael: right so "you can't do that" rather than here is a pointless solution that offers no value but makes you do a lot of work and gives you no value, is the answer
[21:16] <kozminel> i want to send file to an yahoo account
[21:16] <Myrtti> Darael: X11 forwarding would be usable if the main goal is to use only the chat, not voice calling ;-)
[21:16] <vipul> StrangeCharm, ? i have given you the answer
[21:16] <kozminel> and ad an APT line
[21:16] <Darael> ikonia: True.  I wasn't quite aware of what the request was, should have read the log or something.
[21:17] <Darael> Myrtti: Good point!
[21:17] <ikonia> he still doesn't have a local X server on his windows machine
[21:17] <ikonia> so it STILL won't work
[21:17] <StrangeCharm> vipul, no, you haven't. do you expect the skype gui to appear on the machine running putty? do you expect it to appear on the machine you're sshing to? do you expect to operate a text version of skype in the command line?
[21:17] <johntramp> hi,  I am trying to do this, `ssh <IP_ADDRESS> tmux attach` but am being told not a terminal
[21:18] <thansen> ikonia: ok, I'll dig around a bit more...thanks for the info
[21:18] <vipul> StrangeCharm,  no i don't mean that
[21:18] <Ileden> Any idea how to troubleshoot or diagnose a weird WLAN problem? I'm having around 20% packet loss on two laptops (T and E). T's problem appeared after upgrade to 10.10. T's WLAN still works when booting with older kernel. E is new so running 10.10. E also dualboots Win7, where WLAN works flawless. There is also a 3rd laptop, A, which runs 10.04 and wlan works. The problem comes and goes, sometimes can't even connect to the WLAN. Signal strength is good. Changing cha
[21:18] <mernilleaks> Greetings!
[21:18] <Darael> johntramp: commands run from ssh like that get run in a noninteractive shell.  Do the ssh first, then run the command, and it should work.
[21:18] <StrangeCharm> vipul, none of those things are the thing that you expect to happen? what is the thing that you expect to happen?
[21:18] <johntramp> Darael: is it not possible for it to open a terminal session and exec a command?
[21:19] <ohzie> vipul: Your options for using linux X-applications locally on your windows machine are Cygwin(I've never done this but I know other people have) and NoMx. NoMx is amazing and wonderful.
[21:19] <Darael> johntramp: Not if the command needs an interactive terminal to work.
[21:19] <johntramp> Darael: ok, thanks
[21:19] <ohzie> !nomx
[21:19] <Darael> johntramp: By the attach part I assume the one you're trying to run does.
[21:19] <ohzie> !nomachine
[21:19] <ohzie> Hmm. :(
[21:20] <johntramp> Darael: i dont understand,  it works fine if i ssh then tmux attach
[21:20] <Praxi> does dpkg -l show me stuff available in the repositories also?
[21:20] <Darael> johntramp: Exactly.  tmux requires an interactive shell.  There's probably an option to ssh that will let you do what you're after, but I'm not sure what it is.
[21:21] <Praxi> In my quest to get rid of all my ruby/rails stuff I did a dpkg -l | grep ruby and came up with this, and an error when I tried to apt-get remove rubygems1.8 http://pastie.org/1396159
[21:21] <ikonia> Praxi: no, you need to use the package manager (synaptic for example) to search
[21:22] <Praxi> ikonia: this is on server, synaptic is a gui isn't it?
[21:22] <yaaar> hey guys, i'm looking into openvz on 10.04, and finding that things are a bit tricky. reading this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/vzorchestra/+bug/545850 and the last suggestion is to add the debian sid repo and install the kernel from there. I suppose I don't have a huge problem with that...but won't enabling that repo cause problems elsewhere? i assume that it contains tons of packages that...
[21:22] <yaaar> ...overlap with the ubuntu ones...how does apt choose where to get those?
[21:22] <ikonia> Praxi: that's not an error
[21:22] <ikonia> Praxi: apt-cache search on the command line
[21:22] <ikonia> Praxi: I suggest reading the server welcome on https://help.ubuntu.com to learn the basics of running a server before going any futher
[21:22] <paq7512> how can i save these settings after restart? my gpu fan settings - http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1584/screenshotwp.png
[21:22] <Praxi> Thanks ikonia will that show me if I have things installed?
[21:23] <xangua> yaaar: dont do it
[21:23] <ikonia> Praxi: no, it will search the repos
[21:23] <xangua> don't
[21:23] <ikonia> xangua: don't what ?
[21:23] <Darael> johntramp: You want ssh -t, looking at the man page.
[21:24] <xangua> ikonia: mix repositories
[21:24] <phillyj> anyone know why a port is blocked even though I set the rule in my router?
[21:24] <phillyj> Do I have to use iptables?
[21:24] <johntramp> Darael: excellent,  thank you
[21:24] <ikonia> phillyj: default iptables rules are al open
[21:25] <lacrymology> how can I have an old stile linux prompt with just the top dir?
[21:25] <itaylor57> Darael: I just found that via the man page myself, you are fast
[21:25] <phillyj> ikonia: maybe a restart can fix it?
[21:25] <Darael> itaylor57: I've had practice at skimming manpages :P
[21:26] <scala1024> lacrymology, PS1?
[21:26] <ikonia> phillyj: don't see why
[21:26] <yaaar> xangua: well if the Ubuntu kernel developers hadn't turned down a ready kernel for inclusion the day *before* the freeze date because it was "too late...all the kernels were already uploaded today" (when it was still "today"!!) i wouldn't be trying such ridiculous workarounds. but since they did....any good advice on how i should obtain the appropriate kernel? preferably without compiling it...
[21:26] <yaaar> ...and fighting with apt overwriting it?
[21:27] <ikonia> yaaar: stop ranting about it,
[21:27] <lacrymology> scala1024: what_
[21:27] <lacrymology> ?
[21:27] <Darael> The network-manager applet vanishes every so often (sometimes ~30 mins, sometimes ~4 hours) on my Maverick box.  Running it from the terminal shows it's getting signal 15 (sigterm).  What can I do about it?
[21:28] <phillyj> ikonia: how can I find out the list of ports and see if they're open?
[21:28] <scala1024> lacrymology, PS1 sets the prompt.
[21:28] <ikonia> phillyj: iptables -L
[21:28] <yaaar> ikonia: ok, that's fine, i'll leave it alone at that. still would like to have some kind of solution. got any advice on what to do about the missing kernel? all the userspace stuff is apparently there
[21:28] <xangua> yaaar: i use this PPA, use it Under Your Own Risk  https://launchpad.net/~guido-iodice/+archive/best-intel
[21:28] <yaaar> xangua: thanks, checking that out now
[21:29] <xangua> oo appropriate¿¿ i read altest
[21:29] <xangua> latest*
[21:29] <Praxi> ikonia: I read the server guide from your link about packages, from the reading, it looks like the only way I have to show me installed packages is dpkg -l am I mistaken with that?
[21:30] <yaaar> xangua: er...that says it's packages for graphics cards? are you saying that kernel also happens to have openvz support?
[21:30] <Praxi> and it was useful reading too, thanks for making me go back and RTM hehe
[21:30] <sam-_-> Darael, from whom does it get the signal?
[21:30] <ikonia> Praxi: dpkg will show you the packages you have yes
[21:30] <xangua> yaaar: din't read the openvz part, i thpught you just wanted the latest kernel
[21:30] <Darael> sam-_-: I haven't a clue.  It doesn't say; is there any way I can find out?
[21:31] <itaylor57> sam-_-: would dmesg haveit?
[21:31] <sam-_-> Darael obviously but i can't think of a simple way right now
[21:31] <Praxi> ikonia: so in the pastie I have http://pastie.org/1396159 I SEE rubygems1.8 from that dpkg.  When I do a apt-get remove rubygems1.8 it tells me its not installed.  What am I misunderstanding?
[21:31] <yaaar> xangua: no, i really couldn't care less about the kernel version....i just want a working openvz system on lucid, preferably without compiling the kernel for every update
[21:32] <ikonia> !info rubygems
[21:32] <ikonia> Praxi: sudo apt-get remove rubgems
[21:32] <i_is_broke> ikonia, wouldnt purge work as well as remove?
[21:32] <osmosis> how do I view the new changelog before installing an update?
[21:33] <ikonia> i_is_broke: it will
[21:33] <Praxi> doing that tells me rubygems isn't installed, but it still shows up in my dpkg
[21:33] <ikonia> Praxi: ahhhh, do you see any letters by the side of it (to the right)
[21:33] <Praxi> rc
[21:33] <potalo> ola
[21:33] <ikonia> Praxi: it's gone, let me find a link that explains the letters for you
[21:34] <tunist> sam: are you still here? did you find any info? thanks
[21:34] <i_is_broke> !es | potalo
[21:34] <sam-_-> tunist, oh if forgot about you ;)
[21:34] <Praxi> I've been googling dpkg but I just get the basics like dpkg -l and stuff hehe
[21:34] <Praxi> Thanks for your time ikonia its much appreciated
[21:34] <kozminel> yahoo file transfer to pidgin failed. and vice versa
[21:34] <tunist> sam: no probs.. i went to make tea :)
[21:34] <kozminel> need help
[21:34] <ikonia> Praxi: I'm sure I have a good URL around here, I use it to refresh my own memory too
[21:35] <sam-_-> tunist, well if you pop in the cd. you have to select your language. then you should be able to press f6
[21:35] <sam-_-> tunist, i checked with 10.10.
[21:35] <kozminel> yahoo file transfer to pidgin failed. and vice versa,helppppppppppppppp
[21:36] <sam-_-> tunist, do you have more specifics as to way f6 doesn't work?
[21:36] <Darael> !patience | kozminel
[21:36] <tunist> sam: i am booting from a usb image made by the script from www.pendrivelinux.com.. because the dvd drive seems to be broken on the pc
[21:36] <ikonia> kozminel: did I not explain that the support of yahoo protocol is a problem earlier ?
[21:36] <kozminel> yes
[21:36] <ikonia> kozminel: ok, so why are you surprised it's not working
[21:36] <ohzie> Hey I'm using lucid and it looks like Nautilus isn't automounting usb devices? Mostly a vanilla install. Any suggestions on what could cause that?
[21:36] <kozminel> but does anyone have an idea how to fix it?
[21:36] <tunist> sam: F6 just triggers a beep and screen refresh
[21:36] <ikonia> kozminel: what would you like people in here to do to fix a closed source prptocol ?
[21:36] <tunist> sam: there is no label that suggests pressing F6
[21:37] <frxstrem> is it possible to set Gmail as Ubuntu's default mail client with support for mailto: parameters (such as "?subject=something")?
[21:37] <kozminel> to give me an API code ?:)
[21:37] <kozminel> this is what i want
[21:37] <ikonia> frxstrem: gmail isn't a mail client, it's webmail
[21:37] <ikonia> kozminel: it's closed source,
[21:37] <itaylor57> frxstrem: you can connect to Gmail from evolution
[21:38] <nullwire> my webcam works on cheese webcam booth, but not when anything else trys to find it
[21:38] <frxstrem> ikonia: well, it's just an online mail client
[21:38] <nullwire> what can i do?
[21:38] <frxstrem> itaylor57: well, I don't like it
[21:38] <ikonia> frxstrem: no, it's a webmail service, it's not a client, its web page
[21:38] <Myrtti> frxstrem: I'm sure that there are extensions to your browser to make the mailto links to go to gmail, I know Chrome has one
[21:39] <frxstrem> Myrtti: I am not only talking about browsers, but system wide, like the "Preferred application" settings does
[21:39] <nullwire> how come nothing can find my webcam except cheese webcam booth?
[21:39] <Darael> frxstrem: You could set the mail client under preferred applications to "custom" and use a command that opens <your browser here> at an appropriate link.  Good luck crafting one, though.
[21:39] <kozminel> funny thing, if i use kopete i can send/recive files from an yahoo user. with pidgin i can't
[21:39] <user_> Has anyone been able to get truecrypt working over a windows share? I'm having a real issue with it.
[21:40] <Myrtti> kozminel: then you've solved your problem yourself
[21:40] <Myrtti> kozminel: use kopete
[21:40] <KM0201> kozminel: i send/receive from yahoo w/o issue.
[21:40] <kozminel> ha ha ha
[21:40] <kozminel> what an answer
[21:41] <nullwire> how come nothing can find my webcam except cheese webcam booth?
[21:41] <kozminel> thanks for nothing
[21:41] <sam-_-> tunist, i don't know then. the bootloader is called isolinux. i don't know how to use it. maybe someone else does
[21:41] <itaylor57> KM0201: O/
[21:42] <sam-_-> tunist, oh i just found out
[21:42] <sam-_-> tunist, you need to edit this file isolinux.cfg
[21:42] <Darael> frxstrem: Looks like the desktop-webmail package will do what you want.  As long as you're in Lucid or Maverick, at least.
[21:42] <KM0201> itaylor57: lol... o/
[21:42] <sam-_-> tunist, so i lied to you before about not editing files :-)
[21:42] <bencahill> sam-_-, sry was afk :) I tried the usb modules in grub as per Jordan_U's instructions, and they do not work with my usb stick. I'm not surprised, since only those without bioses capable of booting to usb need them, and therefore they probably get very little attention.
[21:43] <W3ird_N3rd> I'm still running Ubuntu 9.10. When I right-click to properties of my disk, it says "filesystem type: ext3/4". Why doesn't it detect it properly? It's ext2? How do I know if it's really mounted/written as ext2?
[21:43] <phillyj_> i was having port forward troubles in WUBI ubuntu even though the port is open on the router so I rebooted but loaded up windows so as I check the port on windows, I see that I have a problem in windows with the port Could a problem in Windows affect WUBI?
[21:43] <ikonia> W3ird_N3rd: mount will show
[21:43] <phretor> how do I set up an APT repository the proper way?
[21:43] <sam-_-> bencahill is your computer old?
[21:43] <W3ird_N3rd> ikonia, thx, mount shows ext2 so it's good
[21:43] <W3ird_N3rd> I have to be sure in this case
[21:43] <tunist> sam: i want my money back.. ;p  -- so i can edit that file and change the boot line options? is that what you mean?
[21:43] <frxstrem> Darael: it is indeed what I'm looking for, thanks! :D
[21:43] <ikonia> phillyj_: it's most likley your router if it doesn't work in windows and ubuntu
[21:44] <bencahill> sam-_-, yes, it's an old (00-02) laptop that wouldn't be used for anything else (128mb ram, the works)
[21:44] <sam-_-> tunist, yes
[21:44] <tunist> @sam: ok thanks a lot.. i'll look now
[21:44] <bencahill> sam-_-, all I want is for the digital picture frame I'm making to be quiet :) so if I could get ubuntu to stop reading from the hard drive so it can spin down (hdparm -S), that would be fine also
[21:44] <Darael> W3ird_N3rd: If you run mount with no options, it'll show you all the mounts active, which will include the type it's mounted as.
[21:45] <sam-_-> bencahill get an ssd then :-)
[21:45] <Darael> W3ird_N3rd: Oh, whoops, ikonia was much faster.
[21:45] <W3ird_N3rd> yeah, had already found it :)
[21:45] <W3ird_N3rd> thx anyway :)
[21:45] <sam-_-> bencahill you can tune ubuntu though to use the disk less.
[21:45] <bencahill> sam-_-, well I might as well buy a digital picture frame, I don't have any ssd's lying around :)
[21:46] <W3ird_N3rd> btw, perhaps you know if Ubuntu 9.10 still had ext4 corruption?
[21:46] <bencahill> sam-_-, how? :) :)
[21:46] <sam-_-> bencahill not sure if you will be happy with that though
[21:46] <W3ird_N3rd> Because I'm noticing corruption
[21:46] <bencahill> sam-_-, oh :(
[21:46] <sam-_-> bencahill disable all the unnecessary applications and set a few options
[21:46] <sam-_-> bencahill probably best if you google it
[21:48] <bencahill> sam-_-, well it's a cli (obviously), and I've only installed what I need, which is fbi,wireless drivers, and wpa_supplicant, along with a few other, like samba to share the pics folder
[21:48] <sam-_-> tunist, btw you need to write the options in the line that starts with append
[21:48] <bencahill> sam-_-, I did set the disk for writeback (before) and it didn't really help at all, so I would guess that it's reading...
[21:49] <nmvictor> hi to all 1520 human beings ...
[21:49] <Ileden> Any idea how to troubleshoot or diagnose a weird WLAN problem? I'm having around 20% packet loss on two laptops (T and E). T's problem appeared after upgrade to 10.10. T's WLAN still works when booting with older kernel. E is new so running 10.10. E also dualboots Win7, where WLAN works flawless. There is also a 3rd laptop, A, which runs 10.04 and wlan works. The problem comes and goes, sometimes can't even connect to the WLAN. Signal strength is good. Changing cha
[21:49] <Darael> The network-manager applet vanishes every so often (sometimes ~30 mins, sometimes ~4 hours) on my Maverick box.  Running it from the terminal shows it's getting signal 15 (sigterm).  What can I do about it?  Can I find out where the sigterm is coming from?
[21:49] <Darael> nmvictor: Not every nick in here /is/ a human being, actually :P.  Theres' a couple of bots.
[21:49] <bencahill> nmvictor, hi there :) do you have a question regarding ubuntu?
[21:51] <tunist> @sam: the isolinux.cfg file only has one line in it
[21:51] <sam-_-> tunist, which one?
[21:52] <Jemt> tunist: Remastering Ubuntu ?
[21:52] <sam-_-> tunist, maybe i told you bs again. i never used pendrivelinux
[21:52] <tunist> @sam: # D-I config version 2.0include menu.cfgdefault vesamenu.c32prompt 0timeout 50ui gfxboot
[21:53] <Jemt> tunist: That's not supposed to be on one line
[21:53] <Schumann> I have a very lazy question regarding Ubuntu.
[21:53] <tunist> @sam: oh ok, so there is a bug in pendrivelinux i guess
[21:53] <OY1R> ask away
[21:53] <Jemt> tunist: 'cat isolinux.cfg' - no line breaks ?
[21:53] <Ileden> Schumann: then we may have a lazy answer for it :)
[21:53] <sam-_-> tunist, no i don't think so. why?
[21:53] <blackknight> hii
[21:53] <tunist> @sam: just because that file is not formatted correctly
[21:54] <tunist> @sam: i assumed the line was written by the script from PDL
[21:54] <itaylor57> Darael: I have found a bug in unbutu related to your problem
[21:54] <sam-_-> tunist, no it includes the files listed in there
[21:54] <Schumann> Using grub, and I'm bootloading two OS.  I want to remove Windows completely.  Can I just delete the partition and not worry about whether it boots up correctly?  Or do I have to edit the grub cfg.
[21:54] <Guest61692> i have a prob with my cam i can't start it
[21:54] <sam-_-> tunist, so you will need to look through them
[21:54] <jcrawford> is there any way to get this ticket assigned to someone: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/685608
[21:54] <phillyj> does any changes I make in windows affect wubi?
[21:54] <phillyj> I changed the internet settings to enable "Access data sources across domains"
[21:55] <nmvictor> bencahill_: yea, sure! I have noticed the ubuntu does internet connection sharing by default since the package dnsmask-base is installed by default. This isnt working well with me, I have a mobile broadband connection for my laptop, but in the office where we work on different shared projects, our PCs are shared across via a wireless network. Well, some fisshy coleagues happen to know of my broadband connection and have been taking advantage of ubuntus
[21:55] <Guest61692> and i don't know how to changer the screen size
[21:55] <W3ird_N3rd> On 2TB I lost 260KB, let's see if using ext2 it'll be good. I'm not sure if I'm hoping it will or not. If it's good, that means my ext4 loses data. if it's not good, I have to return my hard drive
[21:55] <sam-_-> tunist, start with config then menu.cfgdefault
[21:55] <ZykoticK9> Schumann, if you are using grub2 then after you remove windows partition, just run "sudo update-grub2" and it will magically remove Windows from the boot menu.
[21:55] <Schumann> How do I tell Zykotick?
[21:55] <ZykoticK9> tab > Schumann
[21:56] <ZykoticK9> !tab > Schumann
[21:56] <Guest61692> is there any one can help
[21:56] <phillyj> !tab
[21:56] <nmvictor> simply, how do i provide some security or even disable the automatic internet connection sharing but keeping it possible?
[21:56] <ZykoticK9> Schumann, what version of ubuntu are you using?  was it clean installed or updated?
[21:56] <Schumann> Clean installed Ubuntu 10.04.
[21:57] <ZykoticK9> Schumann, then grub2
[21:57] <Stava> I'm trying to change the encoding of a lot of files from iso-8859-1 to utf-8. I'm using iconv for this and it works pretty well. However, some of the files are already utf-8 encoded and some might have some other unexpected encoding. How can I work around this? Can I detect encoding of files?
[21:57] <Schumann> Thanks.
[21:57] <Darael> itaylor57: If it's bug 692835 then I reported it today!
[21:57] <nmvictor>  I have noticed the ubuntu does internet connection sharing by default since the package dnsmask-base is installed by default. This isnt working well with me, I have a mobile broadband connection for my laptop, but in the office where we work on different shared projects, our PCs are shared across via a wireless network. Well, some fisshy coleagues happen to know of my broadband connection and have been taking advantage of ubuntus capability to do autom
[21:57] <phillyj> Guest61692: you have a problem with your camera and can't change the screen size? Which screen are you talking about?
[21:59] <itaylor57> Darael: yep sorry
[21:59] <Guest61692> a lenovo 15.6 inch
[21:59] <Guest61692> lap top
[21:59] <nmvictor> f*@#$*cking channel!
[21:59] <IdleOne> !language | nmvictor
[21:59] <Darael> itaylor57: Oh, well.  Thanks anyway.
[21:59] <sam-_-> tunist, did you find  menu.cfgdefault ?
[21:59] <phillyj> Guest61692: tell me the problem again; you can't change your resolution?
[22:00] <dashx> Hi guys. I've recently switched from arch linux to Ubuntu (opted for more stable releases). I have a question about daemon management. In arch you would set up daemons to load in your rc.conf. How are daemons managed in Ubuntu?
[22:00] <bencahill> nmvictor, I didn't know about that :(
[22:00] <nmvictor> IdleOne: quick to notice that, their was something else i posted , it was worth taking note of, and extending thy help!
[22:00] <bencahill> !patience | nmvictor
[22:00] <nmvictor> bencahill: its ok!
[22:00] <nasser> hi guys. I need to transfer music to my iPod shuffe but I don't know how to do it.
[22:00] <bencahill> nmvictor, :)
[22:00] <aeon-ltd> dashx: as services
[22:00] <Darael> dashx: Some are upstart jobs in the last few releases, most are still init scripts.
[22:00] <Guest61692> yup
[22:00] <aeon-ltd> !services | dashx
[22:00] <kartoffel> does anyone know where i can find the standard configuration of my touchpad?
[22:00] <aeon-ltd> damn
[22:01] <spencer> anyone need general troubleshooting help?
[22:01] <Guest61692> actualy i cdon't know how
[22:01] <dashx> !services
[22:01] <nasser> It's the 3r generation one, the one which has no buttons
[22:01] <spencer> aeon-ltd language please
[22:01] <bluenemo> hi guys. i try to check out pidgin + jabber + voice call, but my partner and i cant hear each other :( do you guys know of any good howtos? i cant find much helpfull on goolge..
[22:01] <IdleOne> nmvictor: the lack of response to your issue does not give you the right to ignore our channel policies.
[22:01] <tunist> @sam: i just found that i was viewing that file in windows and the line breaks were not being registered.. looking in linux there are line breaks
[22:01] <nmvictor> spencer: me, look at my post somewhere above!
[22:01] <tunist> @sam: i'm going to look for menu.cfgdefault now
[22:01] <aeon-ltd> dashx: yeah it doesn't work, but yeah upstart pretty much does it all (imo i like arch's rc.conf over any other distros managment
[22:01] <nasser> help me please. i don't want to install windows just to transfer music to my iPod shuffle 3rd generation
[22:01] <OY1R> i'd like to know how to use my internal sound card while having a USB sound card connected !
[22:01] <Darael> The network-manager applet vanishes every so often (sometimes ~30 mins, sometimes ~4 hours) on my Maverick box.  Running it from the terminal shows it's getting signal 15 (sigterm).  What can I do about it?  Can I find out where the sigterm is coming from, wihout rewriting nm-applet?
[22:01] <sam-_-> tunist, i thought so
[22:02] <Darael> nasser: gtkpod
[22:02] <Ileden> Any idea how to troubleshoot or diagnose a weird WLAN problem? I'm having around 20% packet loss on two laptops (T and E). T's problem appeared after upgrade to 10.10. T's WLAN still works when booting with older kernel. E is new so running 10.10. E also dualboots Win7, where WLAN works flawless. There is also a 3rd laptop, A, which runs 10.04 and wlan works. The problem comes and goes, sometimes can't even connect to the WLAN. Signal strength is good. Changing cha
[22:02] <sam-_-> tunist, or just menu.cfg probably
[22:02] <dashx> aeon> what do you mean by upstart? Are we talking System > Preferences > Startup Applications ?
[22:02] <nmvictor> IdleOne: its ok boss, will never happen again! and i like your name, kind of tells alot
[22:02] <nmvictor> IdleOne: nick*
[22:02] <spencer> darael it's just disappearing from the panel, right?
[22:02] <kartoffel> does anyone know where i can find the standard configuration of my touchpad?
[22:02] <Darael> spencer: That's correct.  Running it from the terminal tells me it's getting signal 15, don't know why.
[22:03] <aeon-ltd> dashx: no, 2/3 releases ago ubuntu ditched init in favor of upstart as a manager
[22:03] <aeon-ltd> !upstart
[22:03] <spencer> kartoffel have you tried system>?prefs>mouse?
[22:03] <spencer> darael it does that sometimes, I've never figured out why
[22:03] <kartoffel> no, i will have a look
[22:03] <dashx> So 10.10 comes with upstart ?
[22:03] <aeon-ltd> dashx: yeah
[22:04] <r00t4rd3d> nmvictor, your connection is not shared by default.
[22:04] <[lan3y]> Nice work with the installation manager on 11.04 Building updates in to the install was a really good idea :)
[22:04] <spencer> nmvictor got kicked
[22:04] <Darael> spencer: That's all very well, but when it's happening quite often and I need IPv6 so wicd is not an option, it becomes a pain!
[22:04] <aeon-ltd> dashx: again (ot and imo) i like things breaking in arch (well not huge problems) but you get to know your system better everytime it happens :)
[22:04] <nmvictor> IdleOne: sorry, i dint mean to hurt you, will behave this time, please let me in?Please...
[22:05] <spencer> 11.04 hasn't been even been released yet, has it?
[22:05] <dashx> Aeon-ltd: Yeah Aeon I really like arch but I was getting tired of fixing everything, although I got to really understand arch linux. Im having issues figuring out how I want to have deluged run automatically.
[22:05] <phillyj> Guest61692: have you tired the system preferences?
[22:05] <Darael> spencer: Correct.  Look at the numbers (they're release dates).
[22:05] <dashx> And the arch wikis were amazing.
[22:05] <breadcrumb> spencer, 11.04 stands for 2011/4th month so no
[22:05] <r00t4rd3d> nmvictor, to verify , goto System , Preferences , Network Connection. Choose your adapter , choose edit , IPv4 Settings. In the METHOD box make sure Shared to other computers is not selected.
[22:05] <breadcrumb> look for it in april 2011 :)
[22:06] <spencer> [lan3y] how do you have 11.04?
[22:06] <[lan3y]> spencer: alpha 1
[22:06] <IdleOne> !11.04
[22:06] <Darael> spencer: If you're affected by the same nm-applet problem, please do mark the bug as affecting you (bug 692835 on Launchpad)
[22:06] <spencer> [lan3y] oh, I was like what?
[22:06] <tunist> @sam: i have menu.cfg open - are you suggesting to look through all the files that are contained in there? what am i looking for?
[22:06] <[lan3y]> can't help but think its moving closer to a mac os x clone though :/
[22:07] <blackknight_> hii
[22:07] <spencer> darael it only happens occasionally, and restarting usually helps
[22:07] <sam-_-> tunist, post a ls of the directory
[22:07] <Darael> spencer: Ah.  Not for me.  Probably a different issue, then.  Thanks anyway.
[22:07] <spencer> [lan3y] aren't they dropping GNOME or X or something?
[22:07] <blackknight_> does any one know how to changer screensizein lap tops
[22:07] <histo> spencer: ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:07] <spencer> darael good luck
[22:07] <histo> blackknight_: underpreferences
[22:07] <ZykoticK9> spencer, lol - both actually (ot for this channel though)
[22:08] <spencer> histo zykoticK9 alright thanks
[22:08] <tunist> @sam: include stdmenu.cfg
[22:08] <tunist> include txt.cfg
[22:08] <tunist> include gtk.cfg 	include adtxt.cfg
[22:08] <tunist> 	include adgtk.cfg
[22:08] <FloodBot3> tunist: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:08] <blackknight_> how
[22:08] <olskolirc> how do i clear web browsing history from my karmic please?
[22:08] <spencer> olskolirc what browser?
[22:09] <Darael> spencer: Thanks.
[22:09] <timposey> I have installed the prayer webmail server and cannot figure out how to call the program from the web browser
[22:09] <bencahill> blackknight_, what do you mean screensize?
[22:09] <bencahill> olskolirc, firefox?
[22:09] <nmvictor> r00t4rd3d: thanks man, you are so kind, thanks to some cruel one i dealt with before,made me appreciate you kindness, Thanks alot
[22:09] <Darael> The network-manager applet vanishes every so often (sometimes ~30 mins, sometimes ~4 hours) on my Maverick box.  Running it from the terminal shows it's getting signal 15 (sigterm).  What can I do about it?  Can I find out where the sigterm is coming from, wihout rewriting nm-applet?
[22:09] <blackknight_> rsolution
[22:09] <dashx> Upstart looks way more complicated than rc.conf... ;[
[22:09] <olskolirc> firefox but im not talking about that im talking about cleaning the cache on my machine is it sudo apt what?
[22:09] <kartoffel> i installed ubuntu and my touchpad works. but where is the configuration file, because i want to change a few things?
[22:09] <spencer> olskolirc look up a program called bleachbit
[22:09] <aeon-ltd> dashx: there are some graphical frontends
[22:10] <dashx> aeon-ltd: want to point me to one?
[22:10] <spencer> kartoffel: try system>preferences>touchpad or whatever
[22:10] <nmvictor> kartoffel: System>Preference>Mouse Touchpad tab
[22:10] <ZykoticK9> aeon-ltd, ya me too.  I'm unaware of any upstart GUI applications.
[22:10] <sam-_-> tunist, ok that was useless. you have to look into all of them i'm afraid bc i don't know syslinux :-(
[22:11] <blackknight_> how to joing to python room
[22:11] <olskolirc> thanks spencer
[22:11] <kartoffel> all i can do there is to activate the touchpad...
[22:11] <larard> Hi, running 8.04 on a server I got informed that /var/log/exim4/paniclog contains string too large in smtp_notquit_exit. This seems to indicate I have been attacked for CVE-2010-4344
[22:11] <larard> How can I tell if the attack was sucessful?
[22:11] <tunist> @sam: ok.. what is it that may be in there that might help?
[22:11] <spencer> larard it;s your server that was attacked right? What do you think the intent was?
[22:11] <intrader> I have used 'Ubuntu Software Center' to insall 'GVim'. The software center display says that I should find gvim in 'Applications>Accessoried>Gvim Test Editor, but it GVim does not appear there!
[22:12] <Milp_main> HEy uuh  need that script command thing to recursively rename files from upper case to lower case again please
[22:12] <Nutub> hello, i have problem with wine software, someone can tell me any help channel for my problem?
[22:12] <larard> spencer: no idea. a file + mail server on a residential DSL connection.
[22:12] <nmvictor> Nutub: try #wine
[22:12] <ZykoticK9> Nutub, i think it's #winehq (but could be wrong)
[22:12] <Darael> blackknight_: type "/join #python" and press enter.  No quotes.
[22:12] <spencer> larard got any enemies? also, DSL might have failed like it usually does
[22:13] <nmvictor> Nutub: not sure though, but sometimes #APP takes you to APP chanel
[22:13] <itaylor57> intrader: log out and back in
[22:13] <Nutub> nmvictor: i tried #wine but said its invite only channel
[22:13] <ectospasm> larard: run a rootkit detector
[22:13] <sam-_-> tunist, sth. like this http://pastebin.com/vzCnfwDR   look for kernel and append
[22:13] <larard> no, the attack is also clearly in the exim log. "2010-12-16 06:52:13 H=gerwazy.lo3.wroc.pl (yahoo.com) [<IP_ADDRESS>] temporari
[22:13] <blackknight_> thanks
[22:13] <larard> ly rejected MAIL<EMAIL_ADDRESS>failed to expand ACL string "ec /bin/sh -i <&7 >&0 2>&0'}} ${run{/bin/sh -c 'exec /bin/sh......"
[22:13] <ZykoticK9> !register > Nutub
[22:13] <nmvictor> Nutub: have you logged into freedom?
[22:14] <Darael> The network-manager applet vanishes every so often (sometimes ~30 mins, sometimes ~4 hours) on my Maverick box.  Running it from the terminal shows it's getting signal 15 (sigterm).  What can I do about it?  Can I find out where the sigterm is coming from, wihout rewriting nm-applet?
[22:14] <kartoffel> how can i configure my tochpad without using the frontend system>preferences>mouse?
[22:14] <grendal_prime> i got this dir..some customer keeps filling it up, what is the best way to systimatically movie files  I mean i can make a cron job but im going to wind up with a ton  of them running
[22:14] <larard> ectospasm: ran rkhunter. Seemed happy. Checked a couple of files it complained about again last backup, fine as well....
[22:14] <spencer> larard well if it was just a crash attack, then it probably worked. If it happens again, then take it offline for a few weeks
[22:14] <celthunder> kartoffel, xorg.conf?
[22:14] <gilos> !ircclient > Gilos
[22:14] <Nutub> ubottu: i'm already registered
[22:14] <grendal_prime> basically i need to monitor a partition and when it reaches like 10% capacity i need to copy the files off of it.
[22:14] <KM0201> Nutub: then you're not signed in
[22:14] <Ileden> Any idea how to troubleshoot or diagnose a weird WLAN problem? I'm having around 20% packet loss on two laptops (T and E). T's problem appeared after upgrade to 10.10. T's WLAN still works when booting with older kernel. E is new so running 10.10. E also dualboots Win7, where WLAN works flawless. There is also a 3rd laptop, A, which runs 10.04 and wlan works. The problem comes and goes, sometimes can't even connect to the WLAN. Signal strength is good. Changing cha
[22:15] <Darael> kartoffel: Depends on your touchpad.  If it's a synaptics one, there's a few packages, I think you want gsynaptics.  Others, you may not be able to.
[22:15] <intrader> itaylor57, how can I do this without having to restart all windows. I have a few chrome and firefox windows that I want to keep.
[22:15] <blackknight_> "join /#python"
[22:15] <Darael> blackknight_: I said no quotes!
[22:15] <spencer> blackknight it's /join #python
[22:15] <Nutub> KM0201, yes i am
[22:15] <kartoffel> celthunder: xorg.conf is nothing inside...
[22:15] <celthunder> kartoffel, so make one
[22:15] <nmvictor> kartoffel: ltmgtfy.com?q=configure+mouse+using+a+file+in+ubuntu , that might help. Google is everything!
[22:15] <kartoffel> darael: but anywhere must be the standard configuraten
[22:16] <nmvictor> kartoffel: http://ltmgtfy.com?q=configure+mouse+using+a+file+in+ubuntu , that might help. Google is everything!
[22:16] <spencer> Welcome back KM0201
[22:16] <KM0201> spencer: went a little wild w/ the /exit command
[22:16] <Lizzard88> I am having issues with GRUB'
[22:16] <nmvictor> kartoffel: http://ltmgtfy.com/?q=configure+mouse+using+a+file+in+ubuntu , that might help. Google is everything!
[22:16] <celthunder> Ileden, drivers/network manager used? chipsets?
[22:16] <gilos> is there a bot command for a list of IRC clients?
[22:16] <justin__> Hey is there anyone in here willing to help me with a sound problem?
[22:16] <Nutub> for some reason i couldnt enter in #wine but now i do
[22:16] <tsrk> I need to clear the hard disk that my / partition is mounted on. How can I do this without physical access to the server?
[22:16] <celthunder> justin__, probably
[22:16] <spencer> gilos are you looking for a specific capability?
[22:16] <Darael> kartoffel: Sys->Prefs->mouse is the standard place.  If you don't want to use that, then you don't want the standard place so you have to be prepared to install packages.
[22:16] <blackknight_> join/#python
[22:16] <spencer> justin__ just ask
[22:16] <Lizzard88> Q: If grub seems to be disfunctional, what is the best way to getting around to fixing it?
[22:17] <larard> spencer: the attack can lead to root privileges, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2010-December/001215.html What I want to know is is there an easy way to know if it did?!
[22:17] <celthunder> gilos, xchat irssi chatzilla cgi:irc phpirc
[22:17] <ZykoticK9> !irc | gilos
[22:17] <XiaolinDraconis>  is there an easy way to rename and re-order kernel entries
[22:17] <XiaolinDraconis>  im on ubuntu lucid-lynx with grub2 and burg
[22:17] <Darael> blackknight_: That's "/join #python", not "join#~python"
[22:17] <spencer> blackknight_ literally type this as you see it: /join #python
[22:17] <justin__> celthunder, I have a Dell Inspiron Zino HD with a Conexant CX20561 sound codec and I get no sound at all. The levels are up and alsamixer is not muted.
[22:17] <nmvictor> Lizzard88: how disfunctional, be a bit verbose with your problem
[22:17] <gilos> spencer: fully features with gui, remembers channels, and you can easily hide join/part messages.  I'm using smuxi right now, but not my favorite.
[22:17] <blackknight_> i did but i'm still here
[22:17] <blackknight_> nothin happened
[22:17] <spencer> gilos and I take it xirc wasn't to your liking?
[22:18] <Ileden> celthunder: how do I find out those?
[22:18] <spencer> blackknight look at the left-hand pane
[22:18] <celthunder> Ileden, lspci
[22:18] <XiaolinDraconis>  is there an easy way to rename and re-order kernel entries
[22:18] <XiaolinDraconis>  im on ubuntu lucid-lynx with grub2 and burg
[22:18] <tunist> @sam: i see it:   kernel /casper/vmlinuz
[22:18] <tunist>   append  file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper only-ubiquity initrd=/casper/initrd.lz quiet splash --
[22:18] <bencahill> blackknight_, you didn't join #python
[22:18] <itaylor57> KM0201: you use xchat right?
[22:18] <sam-_-> tunist, yes that is it
[22:18] <blackknight_> yea
[22:18] <KM0201> itaylor57: affirmative
[22:18] <celthunder> XiaolinDraconis, menu.lst
[22:18] <gilos> spencer: i've tried pidgin and smuxi, I will check out xirc.
[22:18] <kartoffel> darcel: but my touchpad is doing much more than i can configurate in this frontend...
[22:18] <Lizzard88> nmvictor: I dont have the exact error messages, but I get some sort of fatal error when trying to boot ubuntu onto my machine
[22:18] <s3rris> hi i need help getting ubuntu on a flashdrive. how do i convert it to .img using Mac OSX? the guide on ubuntu.com isn't working.
[22:18] <spencer> gilos sorry, it's xchat
[22:18] <XiaolinDraconis> celthunder: not anymore with grub2
[22:19] <XiaolinDraconis> at least not what i read
[22:19] <nmvictor> Lizzard88: did you just install ubuntu or when did this begin?
[22:19] <KM0201> s3rris: are you downloading the netbook version?..
[22:19] <spencer> s3rris are you trying to install it or use it temporarily?
[22:19] <valros> Probably using sed, how would I remove all text from a file that lies between two strings(//!Start and //!End)? regardless of line endings
[22:19] <s3rris> Desktop version and I plan on installing it.
[22:19] <timposey> anyone here ever used the Prayer webmail server on ubuntu 10.04
[22:19] <spencer> s3rris just burn it to a disc?
[22:19] <KM0201> s3rris: so you're wanting to use the thumb drive, as an installer, right?
[22:19] <Lizzard88> Also, I get "Error 15" when running the command "setup" under grub
[22:19] <Ileden> celthunder: T:RaLink RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11g  E:Atheros Communications Inc. AR227 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[22:19] <s3rris> yeah, and I dont have any disks.
[22:19] <ZykoticK9> XiaolinDraconis, you asked for "..an easy way.." and i think the answer to that is No - there isn't an "easy" way ;)  Good luck man.
[22:19] <bencahill> !who | s3rris
[22:20] <s3rris> nor do i want to go to the store, it's really cold.
[22:20] <sam-_-> tunist,  just append your options after --
[22:20] <spencer> s3rris you can request an official one, or use unetbootin[?]
[22:20] <sam-_-> tunist,  leave a space though
[22:20] <Darael> XiaolinDraconis: The stuff that you did by editing menu.lst in grub you do with various files in /etc/grub.d followed by an update-grub when you're done editing them.
[22:20] <XiaolinDraconis> Zykotic: yeah im starting to get that
[22:20] <KM0201> s3rris: you need to download the normal ISO... not the IMG.. then use a tool to extract it on the thumb drive (unetbootin is a common one)
[22:20] <ZykoticK9> !tab > XiaolinDraconis
[22:20] <s3rris> KM201: I have the iso here.
[22:20] <bencahill> s3rris, the universal usb installer is great if you have windoze
[22:20] <KM0201> s3rris: you told me you downloaded the IMG
[22:20] <intrader> itaylor57, thanks for the help - i need to be away for a couple of hours. I will manually save the chrome windows and restart
[22:20] <gilos> spencer: installing xchat now... ooh, just saw a cool feature... the text bubble with your reply to me why I was toggled out of the app.
[22:20] <s3rris> bencahill: I'm on OSX 10.4 :/
[22:21] <spencer> gilos it can beep too if you set extra alerts
[22:21] <s3rris> KM0201: no, i need to convert the ISO to IMG according to this guide.
[22:21] <bencahill> s3rris, yeah, what I thought :)
[22:21] <XiaolinDraconis> ZykoticK9, guess that helps
[22:21] <XiaolinDraconis> thank you
[22:21] <ZykoticK9> XiaolinDraconis, be sure to see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8082954
[22:21] <itaylor57> intrader: np gvim is really cool
[22:21] <spencer> s3rris look up a program called unetbootin and use that to load it
[22:21] <KM0201> s3rris: not really, but ok... http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=598291
[22:21] <gilos> spencer: but what I'm talking about is the new bubble notification thing they added tot he OS.. forgot what they call that.
[22:21] <KM0201> spencer: unetbootin doesn't have a mac version
[22:22] <Lizzard88> nmvictor: I got that message on day, so I ran the live cd and installed a separate partition of the same ver of ubuntu. When dual booting, it worked fine. But when I wipe out that newly installed ver of ubuntu, i get the same problem.
[22:22] <XiaolinDraconis> ZykoticK9, yeah i have that tab open already plus ranch hands
[22:22] <Lizzard88> *one
[22:22] <spencer> gilos oh not just the icon blinking? COOL!
[22:22] <tunist> @sam: ok thanks, i haven't found an option that looks like it may help yet.. i haven't read the whole list though
[22:22] <XiaolinDraconis> ZykoticK9, do you know about that custom menu entry?
[22:22] <sam-_-> tunist, try debug or acpi=off
[22:22] <rethus> till my upgrade from xubuntu 10.04 to newest version, i have no sound. hwinfo --sound output this: http://pastebin.com/tte7remA
[22:22] <spencer> alright BRB, grabbin a sammich. If you need any general troubleshooting, feel free to PM me
[22:22] <tunist> @sam: ok, will do
[22:23] <rethus> can anybody help me
[22:23] <s3rris> KM0201: so i can just use DiskUtility? I dont need to use Terminal?
[22:23] <KM0201> s3rris: i'm not a mac guy, but according to that...
[22:23] <justin__> Man I really with I could get the sound working, my friend said he might switch to Ubuntu if I did.
[22:23] <gilos> spencer: I don't know if it was 10.04 or 10.10, but I remember them talking about the bubble notifier a while back and how people were excited about it.
[22:23] <ZykoticK9> XiaolinDraconis, i've only ever done the codename tweak, never full on custom.
[22:23] <s3rris> I'll give it a shot.
[22:23] <bencahill> justin__, ouch :)
[22:23] <KM0201> s3rris: i take it you don't have access to a windows machine?
[22:23] <Milp_main> How do i batch rename a ton of files and folders recursively from upper to lowercase please?
[22:23] <XiaolinDraconis> ZykoticK9, i read it a little and was wondering if using that would still show my fancy theme
[22:23] <s3rris> KM0201: no, it died on me :(
[22:23] <bencahill> justin__, picky friend :)
[22:24] <Lizzard88> nmvictor: My thoughts are that grub was wiped from the desired partition of ubuntu
[22:24] <nmvictor> Lizzard88: now thats verbose enough, well your grub is sought of corrupted, i can help if you coperate
[22:24] <Ileden> celthunder: Ahem, there was a typo. T uses: "RaLink RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11g"  E uses "Atheros Communications Inc. AR2427 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)"
[22:24] <rethus> till my upgrade from xubuntu 10.04 to newest version, i have no sound. hwinfo --sound output this: http://pastebin.com/tte7remA
[22:24] <justin__> bencahill, Well the darn sound doesn't work lol and he records music.
[22:24] <bencahill> justin__, :)
[22:24] <KM0201> s3rris:  http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/4-ways-to-create-bootable-live-usb.html
[22:24] <Some_Person> Looks like I may need to wipe and reinstall after all: the system crashes when I try to install anything via gui (synaptic, update manager, etc.)
[22:25] <ZykoticK9> XiaolinDraconis, i've never played with gurb so i have no idea.  good luck.
[22:25] <celthunder> Ileden, ok those should both work fine
[22:25] <justin__> bencahill, This has been the only case I've had where Ubuntu doesn't get sound out of the box and this is 10.10
[22:25] <XiaolinDraconis> Thanks
[22:25] <celthunder> Ileden, do they work ifne if you disable any network managers and connect from console?
[22:25] <ZykoticK9> XiaolinDraconis, s/gurb/burg ?
[22:25] <celthunder> Ileden, did you try changing dns servers?
[22:25] <XiaolinDraconis> ?
[22:25] <ZykoticK9> XiaolinDraconis, what is the theme thing you are using called?
[22:25] <XiaolinDraconis> ZykoticK9, burg is a theme manager
[22:26] <XiaolinDraconis> for grub2
[22:26] <s3rris> KM0201: but i don't have a .img file, only the .iso. will i be able to install ubuntu by putting the .iso on the flashdrive?
[22:26] <ZykoticK9> XiaolinDraconis, that's the one - thanks.  ya i've never tried it.
[22:26] <XiaolinDraconis> ZykoticK9, it got me some purdy awesome themes
[22:26] <nmvictor> Lizzard88: you can reinstall it back to the desired partition if thats the case
[22:27] <Ileden> celthunder: I don't know how to disable network manager and connect from console, so haven't tried. I don't see how DNS server could be issue, since I'm doing ping by IP, and there's sometimes even trouble connecting to the WLAN.
[22:27] <rethus> till my upgrade from xubuntu 10.04 to newest version, i have no sound. hwinfo --sound output this: http://pastebin.com/tte7remA
[22:27] <justin__> Does anyone else have a Dell inspiron Zino Hd with working sound?
[22:27] <ZykoticK9> XiaolinDraconis, guess i'm just old school that way - i get plain ol' grub at every boot and think it's just fine ;)
[22:27] <itaylor57> Milp_main: wait a sec
[22:27] <valros> Is there a wildcard with grep and sed that includes a new line? maybe [.\n]* ?
[22:27] <XiaolinDraconis> ZykoticK9, i like the bells and whistles have ocd issue with customizing every aspect
[22:28] <ZykoticK9> XiaolinDraconis, well best of luck.
[22:28] <XiaolinDraconis> thanks again
[22:28] <XiaolinDraconis> wish the plymouth manager would work
[22:28] <XiaolinDraconis> anyone here customized the boot loading screen?
[22:30] <dashx> exit
[22:30] <Jemt> XiaolinDraconis: Just ask the actual question
[22:30] <XiaolinDraconis> that was the actual question
[22:30] <nmvictor> Lizzard88: use the grub-install command, man grub(-install) , goodluck, gotta hit the suck!
[22:30] <rethus> till my upgrade from xubuntu 10.04 to newest version, i have no sound. hwinfo --sound output this: http://pastebin.com/tte7remA
[22:30] <Jemt> Yes, someone have customized it
[22:30] <XiaolinDraconis> if someone here has and cares to tell me how they achieved
[22:31] <jimcooncat_> quick link to help on static ip? using gui no opportunity to sudo
[22:31] <Jemt> Again, just ask the actual question
[22:31] <Darael> The network-manager applet vanishes every so often (sometimes ~30 mins, sometimes ~4 hours) on my Maverick box.  Running it from the terminal shows it's getting signal 15 (sigterm).  What can I do about it?  Can I find out where the sigterm is coming from, wihout rewriting nm-applet?
[22:31] <s3rris> anyone here have experience with Mac OSX?
[22:31] <XiaolinDraconis> so what question do you want me to ask i have 5k of em
[22:31] <Bilz> hello
[22:31] <XiaolinDraconis> all of them about ubuntu
[22:31] <spencer> hi bilz, what can we do ya for?
[22:31] <Jemt> XiaolinDraconis: You probably want to look into remastering, which covers customizing ISOLinux/GFXBoot
[22:32] <Jemt> XiaolinDraconis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[22:32] <XiaolinDraconis> i have remastersys
[22:32] <Bilz> trying to run ubuntu 10.04 from usb stick on my computer. it doesnt seem to get past the first loading screen (purple screen, says ubuntu with 5 dots which go purple then white)
[22:32] <Bilz> the usb is fine, it works on my laptop
[22:32] <Jemt> XiaolinDraconis: Read the docs, they cover ISOLinux/Gfxboot
[22:32] <spencer> bilz, give it some time?
[22:32] <jimcooncat_> !staticip
[22:32] <Bilz> spencer, i gave it about 20 minutes
[22:32] <Bilz> spencer, and its not a slow computer
[22:32] <ZykoticK9> XiaolinDraconis, not sure if it's of interest but I _finally_ got high res Plymouth (with my Nvidia proprietary driver) using the script webupd8 published a while ago for 10.04 & 10.10 - http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/script-to-fix-ubuntu-plymouth-for.html
[22:33] <spencer> bilz ooh. Have you tried re-doing the stick?
[22:33] <Bilz> currently downloading ubuntu 10.10 to see if that works, but id really prefer to stick with 10.04 since its been around longer and im no ubuntu to pro so support is welcome :)
[22:33] <Bilz> spencer, yes. ive done it using usb-creator in ubuntu and the unet thingy in xp, both gave some problem
[22:33] <jimcooncat_> I need to set this to a static ip, I'm not able to with maverick's gui
[22:33] <XiaolinDraconis> ZykoticK9, only if i can find out how to get my gfx card installed on my new small form factor pc
[22:34] <spencer> bilz have you tried unetbootin?
[22:34] <Bilz> spencer, yes, thats the program i said. unet thingy :)
[22:34] <ZykoticK9> XiaolinDraconis, well if you are using open drivers then you probably have full resolution plymouth anyway ;)
[22:34] <XiaolinDraconis> i do but i want to change the plymouth theme
[22:34] <Gilos> spencer thanks for the Xchat recommendation.. much more to my liking.
[22:35] <tunist> @sam: i inserted debug and acpi=off.. both after the -- and before ... (on different attempts to boot).. neither had any obvious effect.. ACPI is still listed in the initiation text - ACPI: Core revision 20100428
[22:35] <XiaolinDraconis> put something fancy on it
[22:35] <spencer> bilz Oh right I forgot, the IUPAC just said a few weeks ago that "thingy" was a technical term now :) (just giving you a hard time) hmm... have you tried a liveCD?
[22:35] <Darael> jimcooncat_: It's normally possible.  Right-click the network manager applet, edit the connection, ipv4 settings tab, change the dropdown to manual, off you go.
[22:35] <itaylor57> Milp_main: ind . -type f -exec \
[22:35] <itaylor57>  perl -e 'rename($_, lc) || warn "$_: $!\n" for @ARGV' {} \;
[22:35] <itaylor57> [download]
[22:35] <valros> What would be a wildcard in grep that includes line endings?
[22:36] <ZykoticK9> XiaolinDraconis, i don't know the current procedure.  I haven't bothered changing my plymouth theme since it first came out on ubuntu.
[22:36] <XiaolinDraconis> i dunno bout thingy but thingumuhjigger sure is
[22:36] <spencer> right on, xiaolindraconis
[22:36] <Bilz> spencer, no i have not
[22:36] <ZykoticK9> XiaolinDraconis, I only see it for a few seconds
[22:37] <XiaolinDraconis> its ocd
[22:37] <XiaolinDraconis> i have to customize as much as possible
[22:37] <itaylor57> Milp_main: find . -type f -exec \ perl -e 'rename($_, lc) || warn "$_: $!\n" for @ARGV' {} \;
[22:37] <ZykoticK9> XiaolinDraconis, dco - like ocd but in correct alphabetical order
[22:37] <spencer> Bilz try that
[22:37] <ZykoticK9> XiaolinDraconis, cdo
[22:37] <XiaolinDraconis> lmao
[22:37] <Bilz> spencer, okay
[22:37] <jimcooncat_> Darael, the Apply button remains greyed out, perhaps because it's not running under sudo?
[22:38] <XiaolinDraconis> cdo 123
[22:39] <itaylor57> Milp_main: put sudo before that command
[22:39] <jimcooncat_> Darael, but it's enabled if I leave out the gateway address
[22:39] <Darael> jimcooncat_: I've not seen that happen before.  Not sure how to deal with it.  However.  It would perhaps be better to ask the channel what to do about that than to try to force it from the command line.  Especially if it's a wireless connection.
[22:39] <Darael> jimcooncat_: That's even stranger.  Perhaps your gateway address is of the wrong format?
[22:40] <sam-_-> tunist, oh that's disappointing. maybe that's not the file that gets used by isolinux
[22:40] <spencer> is there any way to explore the host of an "ad-hoc" wifi connection?
[22:40] <mark2010> after upgrading to 2.6.35-24, grub2 kernel panics - unable to sync VFS. update-grub appeared to work, i can boot <IP_ADDRESS>, any advise?
[22:40] <jimcooncat_> Darael, you're a genius. Had an extra dot in it!
[22:40] <Milp_main> thanks itaylor57
[22:40] <Jezek> i cant mount my hard drive
[22:40] <Darael> jimcooncat_: I'm no genius.  Glad I inspired you to see what was wrong, though!
[22:41] <spencer> jezek can you give us more detail?
[22:41] <itaylor57> Milp_main: np hope it helps, perl is a wonderful thing
[22:41] <Jezek> what should i do
[22:41] <Jezek> it just stalls
[22:41] <Jezek> i click on the drive
[22:41] <Jezek> nothing happens
[22:41] <spencer> jezek it could be a physical problem, been playing cricket or baseball with your HDD?
[22:41] <s3rris> Does anyone know how to make a .dmg a .img?
[22:41] <sam-_-> tunist, if this option does nothing boot_delay=9999 then it's not working
[22:41] <Darael> Jezek: What filesystem is on the drive?  And I'm assuming that it's not the same hard drive you've been booting from.
[22:41] <KM0201> s3rris: sorry, i had to step away, yes.. if you use one of those tools to extract the ISO onto a thumb drive and make it bootable,  it should work
[22:42] <XiaolinDraconis> Jemt, im at the part i believe you intended me to read
[22:42] <Darael> spencer: As funny as that is, I have to be a pain here and say "not helpful (probably)"
[22:42] <tunist> sam: ok, i'll try that one
[22:42] <Jezek> its a ubuntu hard drive, so whatever they are normally formatted as
[22:42] <jimcooncat_> how to restart eth0?
[22:42] <s3rris> KM0201: I think i figured out how to make it .img, well .dmg, I need to know how to convert .dmg to .img..
[22:42] <Jezek> i have two ubuntu partitions because this didn't have enough space
[22:42] <spencer> darael well, it could be a physical problem. Jezek, does it make any sounds? Can you hear the drive rev up?
[22:42] <Jezek> so i made the other one.. was working for a while then now it doesnt work at all
[22:42] <Jezek> it's on the same hard drive
[22:43] <XiaolinDraconis> Jemt, well maybe not
[22:43] <spencer> jezek how are you here right now? another computer? also, about how long did the partitions last?
[22:43] <Jezek> another partition
[22:43] <Jezek> i'm trying to mount the partition i guess i should hav esaid
[22:44] <Jezek> uhh it was working for a few weeks
[22:44] <Jezek> but now when i boot up it says some errors and i cant access the files from another partition either
[22:44] <spencer> jezek please tag your responses, and did you do anything major on them, did you tweak the OS at all?
[22:44] <Jezek> no
[22:44] <Jezek> i'm not sure what tagging my responses is
[22:44] <Darael> !who | Jezek
[22:45] <Darael> Jezek: That ^^^
[22:45] <Jezek> ok
[22:45] <Jezek> spencer,
[22:45] <spencer> darael do you guys get sent a big book of ubottu commands?
[22:45] <spencer> jezek one line, like how I type my responses
[22:45] <BernardV> Darael: Did you manage to get the realtek to do what you want it to do?
[22:45] <Jemt> XiaolinDraconis: You still haven't told us what you want to customize
[22:46] <Jezek> i was tagging my previous responses
[22:46] <XiaolinDraconis> Jemt, yes i have but here goes again.. the plymouth boot screen
[22:46] <Jezek> spencer, i can find out the errors too if i have to. but it said something like /root/dev/ missing.. /sbin/init/ missing
[22:47] <Jezek> i thought i would still be able to access the files though
[22:47] <Darael> BernardV: Yes! Well, not the dropouts, they're still there.  But the other thing is sorted.  Turned out something had overwritten /etc/dbus-1/wpa_supplicant.conf with a blank file so wpasupplicant was blocking nm.
[22:47] <wolfric> how do i disable default setting of automatically connect to this wifi network when i connect to one? There was an answer on a forum that said applications-system tools-configuration editor. I don't seem to have it.
[22:47] <Darael> BernardV: Well remembered and thanks for checking up!
[22:47] <wolfric> i realise you can do it manually for each network though
[22:47] <Jemt> XiaolinDraconis: That's not covered by the docs
[22:47] <Jemt> ..  i linked to
[22:47] <Jemt> XiaolinDraconis: Did you ask Google ?
[22:48] <XiaolinDraconis> Jemt, yes and google pointed me to plymouth-manager
[22:48] <BernardV> Darael: np.. always currious;) Maybe I ru into something similar in future, always nice to know what the problem was :)
[22:48] <Jezek> should i use fsck to repair it?
[22:49] <BernardV> Well if someone wants to install ubuntu on an embedded geode, I now know enough :)
[22:50] <bencahill> BernardV, lol I'm just trying to get it to work on usb!
[22:50] <TomBosleyExp> I'm trying to connect to shares on a windows 7 home premium machine from ubuntu 11.04 (updated and running samba); it prompts for username and password, but just comes back up with the login box
[22:50] <Jezek> Permission denied while trying to open /dev/sda7
[22:50] <BernardV> bencahill: Booting from USB?
[22:51] <tunist> sam: i used boot_delay=9999 in the isolinux file and also the file of the same name in syslinux
[22:51] <tunist> sam: no change on boot at all
[22:51] <Jezek> is there any way of accessing the files
[22:51] <bencahill> BernardV, yeah, but neither the bios nor grub support the usb stick/pcmcia usb adapter
[22:51] <Darael> Jezek: You need to be root to use fsck.  Use sudo.
[22:51] <sam-_-> tunist, i just tried boot_delay myself. it doesn't work for me either ;-(
[22:51] <bencahill> BernardV, I'm working on Plop now :)
[22:51] <BernardV> bencahill: and no other USB (just asking)
[22:52] <OY1R> how can i use my internal sound card while having a USB sound card connected ! (selecting sound device in  System>pref's>sound does NOT work.)
[22:52] <Jezek> Darael, says device or resource busy
[22:52] <tunist> sam: ah ok.. i have yet to use debug or acpi=off in the syslinux file
[22:52] <hidnshadows> sup guys
[22:52] <tunist> sam: i'm not sure what the difference is between syslinux and isolinux
[22:52] <Darael> Jezek: In that case, something is using it.  Try issuing "mount" to see if it's been mounted and not reported to the GUI, or something like that.
[22:53] <hidnshadows> tunist isn't ISOlinux the liveCD?
[22:53] <TomBosleyExp> I've got LmCompatibilityLevel on the win7 box set to 1, password sharing turned off, public folders on, file and print sharing on, 40/56 bit encryption on, and use user accounts on
[22:53] <hidnshadows> jezek have you checked the /media folder?
[22:53] <bencahill> BernardV, no, although I may be able to try another one this weekend
[22:53] <Jezek> Darael, can't find /dev/sda7
[22:53] <bencahill> BernardV, well plenty actually, but not 2GB+ :)
[22:53] <Jezek> ~/media?
[22:53] <e01> i had problems with recordmydesktop, it won`t record and sound from the soundcard, how can i make it working?
[22:53] <Jezek> or where
[22:54] <tunist> sam: i don't know, but both version of the files contain menu references and boot options that point to both 'install from hard drive' and 'run from cd'
[22:54] <BernardV> bencahill: Yeah I ment the usb port
[22:54] <Jezek> nvm
[22:54] <hidnshadows> !who|jezek
[22:54] <sam-_-> tunist, i don't know either. sry
[22:54] <tunist> sam: if that's the difference you are pointing to/thinking of
[22:54] <bencahill> BernardV, doesn't work with the in-built 1.1 ports either, so I don't think it's that
[22:54] <hidnshadows> jezek, just open a nautilus window, then go to filesystem, then hit media
[22:55] <Jezek> ok
[22:55] <tunist> sam: ok, thanks for assisting.. i know a bit more about how the boot works anyhow... maybe i can figure it out from here
[22:55] <BernardV> bencahill: Hmm.. and you have the option to select boot from USB in your bios?
[22:55] <Jezek> hidnshadows, there are two drives that i can't access
[22:55] <Jezek> you do not have permissions
[22:55] <Lint01> is it possible to create temporary files automatica;;y?
[22:55] <Darael> The network-manager applet vanishes every so often (sometimes ~30 mins, sometimes ~4 hours) on my Maverick box.  Running it from the terminal shows it's getting signal 15 (sigterm).  What can I do about it?  Can I find out where the sigterm is coming from, wihout rewriting nm-applet?
[22:55] <tsrk> I need to clear the hard disk that my / partition is mounted on. How can I do this without physical access to the server?
[22:55] <sam-_-> tunist, ok i will msg. if i get to know sth
[22:56] <BernardV> hidnshadows: ISOlinux a bootloader, just like syslinux.. but syslinux runs on a FAT filesystem
[22:56] <hidnshadows> jezek hang on, in the meantime make a new custom launcher on the panel and I'll look up that code
[22:56] <tunist> sam: ok, thanks a lot
[22:56] <hidnshadows> bernardv okay, just curious
[22:56] <Jezek> hidnshadows, what?
[22:56] <BernardV> hidnshadows: But yes, the LiveCD uses ISOLinux :)
[22:56] <hidnshadows> jezek go to terminal, type this in : gksudo "gnome-open %u"
[22:56] <Darael> tsrk: Without hosing your / partition?  Unmount any other partitions and format them?  If you need to completely wipe it, you have no way of doing this effectively without physical access.
[22:57] <Jezek> no such file or directory
[22:57] <hidnshadows> darael does tsrk need to wipe a disk?
[22:57] <Jezek> hidnshadows, no such file or directory
[22:57] <tsrk> Darael: I want to hose my / partition along with the rest of the disk... I don't want any data to remain though
[22:57] <hidnshadows> jezek, then try sudo gnome-open
[22:57] <Darael> hidnshadows: 22:55:52 < tsrk> I need to clear the hard disk that my / partition is mounted on. How can I do this without physical access to the server?
[22:57] <tsrk> hidnshadows: Yes
[22:58] <Darael> tsrk: You need physical access.
[22:58] <induz> how can I restore' my synaptic Package manager "???
[22:58] <hidnshadows> tsrk oh it's a server. I was going to say, if it was a local hard drive, there's a boot disc called DBAN. that'll completely shred the drive
[22:58] <Jezek> hidnshadows, command not found
[22:58] <hidnshadows> jezek hmm... one sec
[22:58] <tsrk> Darael: ok, what would be the best I can do without physical access?
[22:59] <tsrk> hidnshadows: The problem is that it's the disk that / is mounted on
[22:59] <hidnshadows> jezek try sudo nautilus --browser
[22:59] <induz> please help me as my Synaptic Manager is showing : E: Type 'multiverse' is not known on line 50 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:59] <Darael> tsrk: Without physical access the best you can do is to run shred over any file you want to be sure is gone.  That doesn't include programs.  Data files only.
[22:59] <TomBosleyExp> no one has any idea why I can't connect to a windows 7 home share using nautilus?
[23:00] <Jezek> ok
[23:00] <Jezek> hidnshadows, why did i do that
[23:00] <tsrk> Darael: what would happen if I just shredded the disk, ignoring the fact that / is mounted?
[23:00] <tsrk> Darael: wouldn't all the programs be cached in memory long enough to finish the process?
[23:00] <BernardV> tsrk: You could create another partition, install a base linux system that can boot, change your mountpoint with fdisk or something, then reboot and hope it boots. Then wipe the old /... that could work I think.
[23:00] <Darael> tsrk: It would almost certainly fail partway through as the program you were using got overwritten with random data.
[23:01] <induz> how can i update or correct my   /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:01] <Darael> tsrk: BernardV's is the most likely method.
[23:01] <induz> my /etc/apt/sources.list  is corrupt
[23:01] <induz> please help me
[23:01] <hidnshadows> induz want me to pastebin you mine?
[23:01] <induz> /etc/apt/sources.list  i giving me errors
[23:01] <tsrk> BernardV: I like that idea... what's the best way to install a base system onto a partition like that?
[23:01] <Darael> induz: Open the Software Centre, go to prefs and change the sources.  Alternatively, run "gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" from a terminal or from alt+f2.
[23:01] <bencahill> BernardV, oh no, this laptop is from the 2000-2002 era :) no boot from usb in bios, almost no bios at all :D
[23:02] <hidnshadows> bencahill weird, 2001 toshiba can boot form USB
[23:02] <Jezek> is there any other way to just recover the files?
[23:02] <Darael> !patience | induz, I realise you have an answer now but for future reference
[23:03] <BernardV> tsrk: Not sure, never done that. I would try to create a parition in a VM localy, then dd the parition to a file, upload it and dd to the parition on the server.. but not sure it would work
[23:03] <BernardV> bencahill: Ah ok.. then CD it is I think...
[23:03] <hidnshadows> induz, do you want me to PM you the code from mine, and you can try to create a new one?
[23:03] <Darael> BernardV, tsrk:  That fails for the same reason shred fails.  I tried it once.
[23:03] <Jezek> i have files i need to access asap on the hard drive
[23:03] <Darael> !who | Jezek
[23:04] <tsrk> Darael: that would be going to a different partition, not overwriting /
[23:04] <Jezek> im not speaking to anyone
[23:04] <induz> Darael and ubottu: i am trying to get  my /etc/apt/sources.list restored
[23:04] <tsrk> BernardV: that seems like a good idea, I'll try that
[23:04] <Darael> tsrk: My apologies, I must have misread.
[23:04] <Jezek> Darael, my statements weren't directed at anyone
[23:04] <BernardV> Then you could try to update your kernel to a KVM kernel, install a VM system on a real parition and use that one
[23:04] <Jezek> except that one
[23:04] <hidnshadows> tsrk what is your situation, do you need to nuke an entire hard disk? or is the pronlem that an external device has it mounted?
[23:05] <Darael> induz: ubottu is a bot!  I know you are.  The instruction I gave earlier will help you to edit it.  The fiftieth line is the one causing you problems.  Try commenting it out.
[23:05] <Darael> !patience | Jezek, in that case
[23:05] <tsrk> hidnshadows: I need to "nuke" 2 hard disks inside a server that I don't have local access to
[23:05] <induz> how can I open that file??
[23:05] <bencahill> hidnshadows, lucky! :)
[23:05] <Jezek> i only asked it once
[23:06] <BernardV> tsrk: Do you have serial console access?
[23:06] <tsrk> BernardV: actually, the issue with doing that is I doubt it's going to work first try, and if it gets stuck without ssh I'm screwed
[23:06] <tsrk> BernardV: unfortunately no
[23:06] <hidnshadows> tsrk oh, DBAN would require access. Besides, physical access is really the only way to know that you aren't doing it maliciously (not implying anything)
[23:06] <BernardV> tsrk: That's to bad... that would make things a lot easier :)
[23:06] <induz> I changed the SErver[prefered] on software Center
[23:07] <Darael> Jezek: I'm sure you know what's meant.  You're filling the channel with messages along the lines of "I really need this fixed".  We can see that.  I'm actually looking for something to help you, but a little patience will go a long way.
[23:07] <tsrk> hidnshadows: I just migrated all my virtual servers to a colo at a new DC, and I don't trust my old DC to wipe the disk. When I first got this server, it had the last customer's data on. I had very sensitive data on here that can't be leaked.
[23:07] <tsrk> hidnshadows: So it's not malicious, but I really need to get it done.
[23:07] <hidnshadows> tsrk go to the place with the server isn't possible? ROAD TRIP!!
[23:08] <tsrk> hidnshadows: Haha, I doubt th ey'd let me in
[23:08] <induz> how can i reach to #50 line??
[23:08] <tsrk> hidnshadows: This place took like a week to repsond to my billing ticket
[23:08] <BernardV> tsrk: Just ask if they can install a new base system, I don't think they will keep the old data
[23:08] <Jezek> Darael, before i was asking how to mount if it it wasn't mounting. now i was asking if there is just another copy files from the partition somehow. two seperate questions.
[23:08] <hidnshadows> tsrk there's an OS called DBAN thant securely nukes any local drives, but I don't think it'd work with a server
[23:08] <Gilos> I installed the latest 10.10 netbook software, is there a way to make the ubuntu symbol act as the main menu icon more like a normal system?  other than that, I like the icon bar that comes with netbook.
[23:08] <Jezek> *another way
[23:09] <hidnshadows> jezek do you or don
[23:09] <tsrk> BernardV: I asked before getting the server set up if they always wipe disks, and they said yes. Then, they set it up for me, and I could see the last customer's data.
[23:09] <Jezek> what?
[23:09] <BernardV> tsrk: Ouch..
[23:09] <hidnshadows> jezek can you or can't you mount the drive
[23:09] <tsrk> BernardV: Yeah... there's half the reason I'm switching
[23:09] <Jezek> hidnshadows, i cannot
[23:10] <juniour> can any one tall me how to chek mail via teminal
[23:10] <BernardV> tsrk: But your VM host doesn't have a ssh login for customers to use the XEN/KVM/?? console?
[23:10] <hidnshadows> tsrk if they;re that bad, file a report with places like the BBB. After that, try asking #backtrack if they need a new target :)
[23:10] <tsrk> BernardV: it's a physical server
[23:10] <BernardV> I have a VM host and a server, VM host has XEN console access, server has serial.. so ...
[23:10] <BernardV> ah ok
[23:10] <Darael> The network-manager applet vanishes every so often (sometimes ~30 mins, sometimes ~4 hours) on my Maverick box.  Running it from the terminal shows it's getting signal 15 (sigterm).  What can I do about it?  Can I find out where the sigterm is coming from, wihout rewriting nm-applet?
[23:11] <C_Okie> hi
[23:11] <juniour> hi
[23:11] <Jordan_U> tsrk: You can probably dd zeros to the entire drive while still booted from it.
[23:11] <C_Okie> ubuntus not as busy right now cool
[23:11] <hidnshadows> darael, the program's running the background even if the applet has disappeared. How wide is the screen, is there spacious room for the icons?
[23:11] <tsrk> Jordan_U: I was wondering if that'd work, but BernardV said that most likely it'll die half way through from trying to read something
[23:11] <juniour> can any one tell me to check mai via terminal
[23:11] <C_Okie> when is it the worst around here for asking a question as far as # of people asking
[23:12] <BernardV> tsrk: That was Darael , but I think the same ;)
[23:12] <sam-_-> juniour, mai=mail?
[23:12] <tsrk> BernardV: sorry, yeah
[23:12] <juniour> ya
[23:12] <Jordan_U> tsrk: In my experience no. Just make sure that anything that might run during that time is already running (in RAM).
[23:12] <Darael> hidnshadows: I know it is, but network-manager disconnects if the applet quits.  Screen is currently 1366x768 - I've got plenty of space for my panel icons.
[23:12] <Jordan_U> tsrk: That said, no guarantee.
[23:12] <tsrk> Jordan_U: oh you've tried it? that'd be great if it'd work
[23:12] <hidnshadows> c_0kie probably around Christmas-time, we can't be on IRC while with our families
[23:13] <BernardV> tsrk: Just try it in virtualbox or something.. easiest way to test
[23:13] <juniour> sam u know to do this
[23:13] <juniour> ?
[23:13] <tsrk> BernardV: yeah i'll do that
[23:13] <juniour> sam r u there?
[23:13] <C_Okie> hidnshadows:  and  I wouldn't want you guys to be either :) have some time off and celebrebreate! I mean time wise though as far as military time of the day
[23:13] <bencahill> !tab | juniour
[23:13] <sam-_-> juniour, try mutt
[23:13] <sam-_-> juniour, sudo apt-get install mutt
[23:14] <hidnshadows> c_0kie there isn't really a time, there's a bunch of people across the oceans and around the world, Night time's usually pretty quiet though
[23:14] <juniour> k
[23:14] <juniour>  sam
[23:15] <sam-_-> juniour, y?
[23:15] <BernardV> tsrk: But updating to a KVM kernel and installing a VM on a real parition and then changing the mountpoints would be easier then dd'ing I think.
[23:15] <Jordan_U> tsrk: And it may sound stupid but dding zeros is probably less likely to cause a crash than anything else (in C code that reads it in it's more likely to look like a null pointer/empty string/ something else that's safer than a random pointer or unterminated string).
[23:15] <C_Okie> hidnshadows:  ok gotcha thanks becuase earlier it was crazy!
[23:15] <BernardV> tsrk: If dd'ing zero's doesn't work I mean
[23:15] <bencahill> C_Okie, yeah night time is pretty guiet, except for the occasional troll (last night) :D
[23:15] <hidnshadows> Whoah bencahill I never knew that about the IRCs, thanks man!
[23:15] <Darael> bencahill: Whose night time? :P
[23:15] <BernardV> That's true Jordan_U
[23:16] <C_Okie> oooh fun stuff with bots and trolls
[23:16] <bencahill> hidnshadows, ?
[23:16] <tsrk> BernardV: That way would work better if I could get it right first try, but if it gets stuck before running SSH I'm screwed
[23:16] <hidnshadows> bencahill about the tab autocompletion
[23:16] <bencahill> Darael, CST
[23:16] <tsrk> Jordan_U: the ideal situation would be for dd and SSH to both keep running through the whole process so I can get confirmation that it finished
[23:16] <bencahill> hidnshadows, ah :) I felt pretty dumb when I found out about it too :)
[23:17] <Darael> bencahill: Ah.  I'm in GMT myself, you see, so I do wonder which time people mean sometimes.
[23:17] <hidnshadows> tsrk try contacting the company and ask if they'll run DBAN or at least wipe it?
[23:17] <bencahill> Darael, ah :)
[23:17] <induz> hello
[23:17] <juniour> exit
[23:17] <induz> how can I update my Ubuntu
[23:17] <bencahill> juniour, /quit
[23:18] <juniour> thanks
[23:18] <bencahill> juniour, :)
[23:18] <hidnshadows> induz back your stuff up and install the next one
[23:18] <Darael> induz: System->administration->update manager, or to upgrade, see hidnshadows's response.
[23:18] <hidnshadows> Is there a way to burn software to a disc and let others use it like the LiveCD works for software center?
[23:18] <BernardV> tsrk: That's true, but delete most files you know for sure you don't need, then write a lot of 0'files, delete them, write 1' files delete them etc... then you try ;) If it's not working most "for your eyes only" data will be lost
[23:19] <hidnshadows> darael I wasn't sure if induz was talking about going to maverick or patching stuff
[23:19] <Jordan_U> tsrk: Keep us updated on how it goes :)
[23:19] <tsrk> hidnshadows: as I was saying earlier this company says they wipe disks but they don't really
[23:19] <Darael> hidnshadows: Hence the dual response.  Between us, it's covered.
[23:19] <induz> I am getting Partial Update  why??
[23:20] <hidnshadows> tsrk okay, if the 1's and 0's don't work, then maybe you could request that they run that software afterwards
[23:20] <amk> quit
[23:20] <BernardV> tsrk: Where is the data you don't want others to see?
[23:20] <Darael> induz: Presumably because there's something preventing the update happening as a full one.  Go through the partial then run it again and it usually resolves.
[23:20] <tsrk> BernardV: sorry, not quite sure what you mean. are you saying I should fill the free space with junk files? that'd probably work actually
[23:20] <BernardV> tsrk: Yeah that's what i mean
[23:20] <induz> I am going to Partial way darell
[23:20] <juniour> hey i hav install mutt but on scree comming pacakage configuration
[23:20] <BernardV> tsrk: And do it a few times, with not only 0's
[23:20] <Darael> !tab | induz
[23:20] <tsrk> BernardV: it was VM disks... I made the mistake of rm'ing them instead of shredding them
[23:20] <BernardV> tsrk: Random would do
[23:20] <Loneclock> which channel do you go to to talk about internet speed issues?
[23:21] <BernardV> tsrk: Ah ok
[23:21] <juniour> postfix configuration
[23:21] <hidnshadows> induz are you behind a 3rd-party firewall when you update? my HS firewall won't let me get stuff from medibuntu
[23:21] <tsrk> BernardV: what will happen if the disks gets too full? anything bad, or will the writes just start failing?
[23:21] <Bilz> just partitioning hard drive to install ubuntu 10.04. any reasons why i shouldnt use ext4 instead of ext3?
[23:21] <juniour> how to select mail server configuration
[23:21] <Darael> Loneclock: Depends on what you think the problem is.  If you reckon it's Ubuntu, here.  If you reckon it's your network setup, try #networking and ##networking.  If you reckon it's your ISP, talk to them.
[23:21] <induz> Its doing Distro Update which i dont want  caz i had problem earlier with my USB wireless adapter
[23:21] <c0de_Red> ubottu, I noticed for some, the tab sometimes produces a colon : or a comma , . Anyway to change that?
[23:22] <bencahill> !ext4 | Bilz
[23:22] <BernardV> tsrk: I was just typing.. "Be aware that 0 free space can hang a system...not always the case"
[23:22] <c0de_Red> doh
[23:22] <Loneclock> thanks
[23:22] <induz> now i dont know ...may be i have to re-install ubuntu koala again
[23:22] <Kyle__> Hello.
[23:22] <hidnshadows> hi kyle__ hows it going. got a problem?
[23:22] <induz> I am not behing firewall other than my router
[23:23] <Kyle__> Trying to get ubuntu on a silver imac.
[23:23] <Darael> tsrk: There's some space reserved for root, so even if it gets unusably full you could boot in single-user mode (or, indeed, telinit 1) and you'd be able to sort it.
[23:23] <shubham> hello
[23:23] <hidnshadows> kyle__ do you have a boot disc?
[23:23] <induz> I just wanted to install mySpell-hun for hindi
[23:23] <Kyle__> Install goes fine, refit installed, but no linux boot.
[23:23] <Darael> BernardV: You might find that info useful as well, actually.
[23:23] <juniour> ya
[23:23] <Kyle__> hidnshadows: yup.
[23:23] <tsrk> BernardV: hmm ok... well, the disk wasn't nearly 100% full from the VM disks, so as long as I write at least that much data will I be OK? Or will the new data go on a different physical part of the disk?
[23:23] <hidnshadows> kyle__ hold down the left "option" key
[23:24] <BernardV> Darael: indeed:) But does it start ssh? If not he still has a problem
[23:24] <juniour> i am new to this thats y am cheking the command
[23:24] <tsrk> Darael: oh yeah, I was reading something about being able to unmount / in runlevel 1, would that work instead?
[23:24] <tsrk> Darael: is that what telinit does?
[23:24] <c0de_Red> is anyone familiar with the issue of iTunes freezing up when trying to run it on a VirtualBox? I've been trying for days learn how to fix this issue but no luck
[23:24] <Kyle__> hidnshadows: Did.  And it says no OS, etc etc.
[23:24] <Darael> tsrk: It's one of the things it does.
[23:24] <tsrk> Darael: will that kill my running SSH?
[23:25] <hidnshadows> kyle stupid mac and their [insert word here] proprietary BIOS and CMOS or whatever
[23:25] <juniour> wht is the use of tab key
[23:25] <Darael> tsrk: You'd want to make sure the program you wanted to use to shred was loaded into the ramdisk, along with any ssh-related files, first.
[23:25] <juniour> ?
[23:25] <bazhang> !tab | juniour
[23:25] <Darael> BernardV: Probably not, but one can change the runlevel definitions in advance so that it does.
[23:25] <Kyle__> hidnshadows: As prone as I am to agree, I'm really hoping to find a way to get this to boot nicely.
[23:25] <the_real_dave> Anyone know if it's possible to setup a PXE Server without using fancy DHCP? Just using DHCP from a router?
[23:25] <juniour> wt is autocompletion
[23:25] <juniour> ?
[23:25] <BernardV> Darael: Thanks.. never needed that yet, but good info
[23:25] <dabaRs> !firefox
[23:25] <tsrk> Darael: Do I need to create a ramdisk, or is there one created when it goes to runlevel 1?
[23:26] <bencahill> juniour, try it
[23:26] <hidnshadows> kyle__ yeah, too bad you can't just nuke the sucker and it will install fine
[23:26] <Darael> tsrk: I'm sorry, it's not my field,
[23:26] <bazhang> juniour, jun <tab> autocompletes your nick
[23:26] <shcherbak> juniour: try /ho<TAB>
[23:26] <Darael> tsrk: ... I don't know.
[23:26] <juniour> k
[23:26] <induz> same Koala not Lucid after Update as i never said Upgrade
[23:26] <tsrk> Darael: ok, thanks though... I'll mess around in a VM and see what I can figure out
[23:26] <Darael> tsrk: Good luck.
[23:26] <tsrk> thanks
[23:26] <hidnshadows> yeah tsrk good luck
[23:27] <juniour> k
[23:27] <bazhang> induz, paste.ubuntu.com with your sources.list and the output of lsb_release -a
[23:27] <juniour>  thank to
[23:27] <juniour>  all
[23:27] <tsrk> thanks hidnshadows
[23:27] <BernardV> tsrk: YEah good luck and if you find a good sollution, I'm all ears ;)
[23:27] <juniour>  to help
[23:27] <juniour>  me
[23:27] <FloodBot3> juniour: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:27] <tsrk> I'll let you all know how this goes
[23:27] <Bilz> right, ive loaded up on my livecd, but for some reason there are some partitions i cant delete through gparted. such as the extended partition containing a swap partition. also, my hard drive seems to be split funny, so that the i have first 100gb unallocated, then partition of 100gb (which i want) and then another 200gb or so free, then swap partition, then another 100gb or so. how do i rectify these problems?!
[23:27] <shcherbak> juniour: TAB in general move cursor (and sometime add rest of path/command/nick etc.)
[23:27] <juniour> k
[23:27] <tsrk> BernardV: I really don't think there's going to be a "good" solution... whatever I do is going to be a cluge of some kind
[23:27] <juniour> shcherbak
[23:27] <juniour> thanks
[23:28] <Bilz> okay, managed to get rid of the swa
[23:28] <Bilz> swap
[23:28] <BernardV> tsrk: Still curious :P
[23:28] <induz> Bazang?? what??
[23:28] <Bilz> now need to allocate the paritions in a proper order!
[23:28] <tsrk> BernardV: yeah, I'll let you know
[23:28] <Jezek> how do i cancel an ionstall that is in process
[23:28] <Jezek> *install
[23:28] <Jezek> im in ubuntu software center and the progress bar froze
[23:28] <induz> how can i go to source list??
[23:28] <Kyle__> Any refit gurus here?  Anyone know if there's editing to do to get into linux?
[23:28] <BernardV> Jezek: Pull the plug :)
[23:28] <hidnshadows> so hey guys, I heard soemthing about increasing the swap partition will make it run faster/handle more programs. Anything on this?
[23:28] <Jezek> :/
[23:29] <Jezek> BernardV, i have to restart?
[23:29] <Bilz> hidnshadows, think she just need double the memory for the swap
[23:29] <Darael> hidnshadows: Depends how much RAM you have and how much is being used.
[23:29] <Bilz> think you*
[23:29] <KM0201> hidnshadows: how much ram does your system have, and how large is your swap now?.. most newer systems probably rarely touch swap
[23:29] <BernardV> Jezek: No, I don't think so..
[23:29] <bazhang> induz, cat etc/apt/sources.list -----> copy to paste.ubuntu.com and give us the url; also the output of lsb_release -a
[23:29] <Jezek> hrm
[23:29] <BernardV> Jezek: How long ago it froze?
[23:29] <shcherbak> induz: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:29] <Jezek> BernardV, few minutes
[23:29] <bazhang> induz, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:29] <hidnshadows> darael km0201 it's a netbook, supposedly it has 2GiB RAM but I only ever see 1 listed
[23:30] <KM0201> hnmm
[23:30] <shcherbak> bazhang: right,
[23:30] <BernardV> Jezek: Just wait a few more, I had some install which stalled for about 10 minutes, never knew what it was...
[23:30] <Jezek> lol ok
[23:30] <BernardV> Jezek: Otherwise you could start a terminal and check the running processes and kill the installer
[23:31] <shcherbak> Jezek: you can just kill software center, then run in terminal: sudo apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get autoremove
[23:31] <juniour> bernardv to kill process via terminal
[23:31] <Darael> hidnshadows: Might make a difference, depends how much of your hard drive you're prepared to give up for swap - but the problem may be your netbook processor.  You'll want to see what is being overused - htop does that very nicely, gnome-performance-monitor (or w/e) doesn't because it eats too much itself.
[23:31] <juniour> how can i do it
[23:31] <BernardV> yes juniour ?
[23:31] <konar> hi
[23:32] <juniour> hi
[23:32] <Darael> shcherbak: It may be necessary to remove the dpkg lock file as well if juniour does that.  Just a heads-up.
[23:32] <KM0201> s3rris: any luck?
[23:32] <shcherbak> juniour: type: top to get PID, and kill PID
[23:32] <BernardV> juniour: "ps aux" look at the PID, then "kill [PID]" and if it doesn't kill "kill -9 [PID]"
[23:32] <shcherbak> Darael: he will tell us about it
[23:32] <juniour> k
[23:32] <induz> where can i paste my source file??
[23:32] <induz> its a text file
[23:33] <Darael> shcherbak: Well, the error message for that can be a little cryptic so I thought I'd give advance warning.
[23:33] <BernardV> induz: pastebin.com
[23:33] <shcherbak> Darael: You may be right.
[23:34] <Jezek> Person who said run apt-get autoremove, "could not lock /var/lib/dpkg/block..."
[23:34] <juniour> thanks scherbak and bernardv
[23:34] <induz> http://pastebin.com/LvhgcZ1c
[23:34] <BernardV> Jezek: run it as "root"
[23:34] <techqbert> does mv have a flag where each file that was successfully moved gets deleted before moving on to the next file?
[23:34] <induz> above is my file please look at it
[23:34] <BernardV> Jezek: sudo apt-get autoremove
[23:35] <bazhang> induz, you have some breezy sources in there
[23:35] <Jezek> BernardV, same error
[23:35] <Darael> The network-manager applet vanishes every so often (sometimes ~30 mins, sometimes ~4 hours) on my Maverick box.  Running it from the terminal shows it's getting signal 15 (sigterm).  What can I do about it?  Can I find out where the sigterm is coming from, wihout rewriting nm-applet?
[23:35] <shcherbak> Jezek: check this file /var/chache/apt/lock
[23:35] <BernardV> Jezek: Or you are running another apt instance (synatic, apt, aptitude...) that locks the file
[23:35] <bazhang> induz, also, pastebin the output of lsb_release -a
[23:35] <Darael> Jezek: First run "ps -e | grep dpkg".  If there's no output, run "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock" and if there is, wait for your running installs and/or updates to complete.
[23:36] <shcherbak> Jezek: and remove it, and repead: sudo apt-get install -f