[00:34] <Guest76587> 674003349
[00:57] <gunndawg> So I installed GUFW to manage my firewall and when I try to open it, it shows in the task bar with a spinning loading animation where the icon would be, then it just closes, never opens
[03:49] <basheba> my desktop won't cube when I click my desktop pager
[04:03] <JMichaelX> basheba: have you made sure you have the cube animation enabled in settings?
[04:03] <basheba> yes
[04:03] <JMichaelX> desktop cube does not work for me, either, in kubuntu 15.04, using intel/i915
[04:06] <basheba> I might just put compiz on it but I'd hate to lose my qtcurve
[04:06] <basheba> can I do both compiz and qtcurve?
[04:20] <SporkWitch> basheba: the settings for effects have conflicting options that don't warn you.  if you have another option marked, it may supercede the cube one, and so do that instead
[04:23] <basheba> it didn't.  It just keeps telling me desktop cube could not be started
[04:29] <basheba> oic JMichaelX so it's all kde desktops I assume
[04:34] <SporkWitch> graphics driver issue, maybe
[06:34] <fighting> hello
[07:31] <alvin> The energy consumption stuff is nice to have in Plasma 5.3, but it's clear to me that plasma itself uses the most battery. My load when showing the desktop only is 1.9. A bit on the heavy side. CPU time goes to plasmashell and sddm.
[07:35] <valorie> sddm!
[07:35] <valorie> odd that it would use anything
[07:36] <valorie> aside from startup and shutdown
[07:36] <MoonUnit`> for me plasmashell has a bug, it's fine on first boot but after a while it and Xorg will hit 20% cpu each.
[07:37] <MoonUnit`> then the animations will get a bit laggy.
[07:37] <valorie> please file a bug, MoonUnit`
[07:37] <valorie> or look for one already files
[07:37] <valorie> filed
[07:39] <MoonUnit`> i've looked before, seems to be a constant problem going back years, fixed then broken, fixed then broken.
[07:39] <valorie> which seems to indicate it is a difficult problem
[07:41] <alvin> It's not actually slow on my hardware, but the fan of my notebook is blowing harder than usual. It goes silent when I log out of KDE.
[07:53] <MoonUnit`> i'll have another go a figuring out thunderbird today, switched to chromium yesterday, every app clicking a link will open chromium except for thunderbird. tried forcing it in user.js and about:config settings.
[07:53] <MoonUnit`> might try a fresh profile and see what it does.
[07:53] <MoonUnit`> using kmail until i figure it out.
[07:55] <valorie> I like kmail so much, but it isn't working for me now
[07:55] <valorie> I don't like tbird, so the fallback is gmail here
[07:56] <fabry> avatar
[08:13] <stockfish> hello everyone
[08:13] <stockfish> could anyone please help me? :/
[08:15] <stockfish> hello?
[08:15] <valorie> stockfish: what's the problem?
[08:15] <stockfish> Thank you for answering me valorie
[08:15] <valorie> usually people won't speak up unless they know what the question or problem is
[08:16] <stockfish> first i should tell that im new to kubuntu and im very very impressed by that,
[08:16] <stockfish> this is the first time im using a linux os
[08:16] <valorie> oh very nice!
[08:16] <stockfish> i really like it but my problem is,
[08:17] <stockfish> i customized my desktop, but whenever i restart my laptop everything i desinged blows up :(
[08:17] <stockfish> like wallpaper, folders etc everything
[08:18] <valorie> blows up?
[08:18] <stockfish> i mean everything reverse to default
[08:18] <valorie> let's start at the beginning: what version of kubuntu did you install?
[08:18] <stockfish> just like i designed nothing
[08:19] <stockfish> i have kubuntu .
[08:19] <stockfish> 15.04
[08:19] <stockfish> i saw that its the latest so i installed it
[08:20] <valorie> excellent
[08:20] <valorie> so how did you customize?
[08:20] <valorie> for instance, how did you get different wallpaper?
[08:21] <valorie> can you describe what you did, if you remember?
[08:21] <stockfish> for example, i clicked on folder settings,
[08:22] <stockfish> i downloaded new wallpaper
[08:22] <stockfish> and then i apllied the new one
[08:22] <stockfish> its there but after restart system changes the wallpaper back to default
[08:22] <valorie> so far, so good
[08:22] <valorie> hmmm
[08:22] <stockfish> and another thing
[08:22] <valorie> that is very odd
[08:23] <stockfish> normally system doesnt show folder type
[08:23] <stockfish> its desktop style
[08:23] <valorie> in systemsettings, you can ask the system to save your session, and restore it
[08:23] <valorie> that might help
[08:23] <stockfish> i have to switch to folder type, have to set up wallpaper again etc
[08:23] <stockfish> hmm please let me check
[08:24] <valorie> I switched to slideshow on my desktop by right-clicking on the desktop, and configuring it there
[08:24] <valorie> works just fine
[08:25] <stockfish> it works for me too but it changes after restart ;)
[08:25] <stockfish> i opened it under which i can save the session?
[08:25] <stockfish> appearance, workspace etc?
[08:26] <valorie> startup and shutdown I think
[08:26] <valorie> at the bottom
[08:27] <valorie> I always "restore previous session"
[08:27] <valorie> but then I usually shut down applications
[08:28] <stockfish> it was on RPS
[08:28] <stockfish> i changed it to RMSS
[08:28] <stockfish> i hope it helps ;)
[08:29] <stockfish> ill restart and check if it helps ok?
[08:29] <valorie> sure
[08:29] <valorie> you don't have to restart though
[08:29] <valorie> just log out and back in
[08:29] <stockfish> oh ok
[08:29] <stockfish> brb :)
[08:31] <stockfish_> it didnt help,
[08:31] <valorie> :(
[08:31] <stockfish_> it changed back from folder style to desktop style
[08:31] <stockfish_> and wallpaper is gone again :/
[08:32] <stockfish_> i mean default wallpapaer comes back
[08:32] <bip> Buongiorno!
[08:32] <valorie> so manually saved session means you have to right-click and manually save the session
[08:32] <valorie> restore should be automatic
[08:33] <valorie> for some reason, your sessions and settings aren't properly being saved
[08:33] <stockfish_> any idea how can i fix it? ;)
[08:33] <stockfish_> i have another tiny weird problem too
[08:34] <stockfish_> when i restart my web browser becomes open and minimized,
[08:34] <stockfish_> when i click it to maximize,
[08:35] <stockfish_> the browser is being throwed to out of the screen *.*
[08:35] <stockfish_> seriously
[08:35] <valorie> well, if it is a permissions problem, you could chown -R username folder/
[08:35] <stockfish_> it goes out of the screen right side
[08:36] <valorie> in other words, in a console, type: chown -R ~/home
[08:36] <stockfish_> i close it and i re-open the browser then it corrects itself
[08:36] <valorie> that will fix the permissions in your home folder
[08:36] <stockfish_> ok im trying now
[08:37] <valorie> that is very strange, as it means that the browser thinks your screen is larger than it actually is
[08:37] <stockfish_> but it doesnt show any part of its
[08:38] <stockfish_> its completely goes the right side
[08:38] <stockfish_> i think it thinks that the screen is there
[08:38] <valorie> does it help if you restore the size, and resize to less than maximum?
[08:39] <stockfish_> i havent tried it, and dont know how to either :)
[08:39] <valorie> I personally hate maximized windows
[08:39] <valorie> they bug me
[08:39] <valorie> so there is the close symbol, maximize, and restore
[08:39] <valorie> err, max or min
[08:39] <stockfish_> chown: missing operand after /home/username/home
[08:40] <valorie> what is your home called?
[08:41] <stockfish_> its --> /home
[08:41] <stockfish_> it said /home/stockfish/home
[08:41] <stockfish_> st. is my user name
[08:41] <valorie> you might need to use eg /home/valorie
[08:41] <valorie> home shouldn't be in there twice
[08:42] <valorie> if it really is, that is your problem
[08:42] <valorie> because that means kubuntu doesn't know where to find your settings
[08:43] <stockfish_> it said ----> chown: missing operand after /home/stockfish/home
[08:43] <stockfish_> how can i fix my mistake? i dont know how i did it :)
[08:43] <Mazhdee> Hey everyone
[08:44] <Mazhdee> I'm trying to add a firewall rule with ufw gui
[08:45] <Mazhdee> http://i.imgur.com/OfTrhxL.png
[08:45] <valorie> try again with chown -R /home/stockfish
[08:45] <stockfish_> ok
[08:45] <valorie> really, if you have a /home in your home, you have a problem
[08:45] <Mazhdee> and then I get this http://imgur.com/vWO7QIF
[08:45] <stockfish_> no i dont want it
[08:46] <valorie> Mazhdee: I know nothing about ufw
[08:46] <stockfish_> why would i want it
[08:46] <valorie> beyond
[08:46] <valorie> !ufw
[08:46] <Mazhdee> ubottu
[08:46] <Mazhdee> I know, I'm using ufw-kde right now
[08:46] <stockfish_> i made a home inside the home by mistake?
[08:47] <valorie> still, those two pages will help you, Mazhdee
[08:47] <Mazhdee> I want to allow all traffic through tun0 and it doesn't allow me to do that
[08:47] <valorie> stockfish_: if you did, move the files back where they belong
[08:47] <Mazhdee> valorie, ok
[08:47] <valorie> and delete that folder
[08:47] <valorie> but move the stuff first
[08:49] <Mazhdee> look, I think it's a bug, I just don't know why it wouldn't let you allow *any* traffic
[08:49] <Mazhdee> basically it wants me to create a rule for a specific ip and a specific port but this is dumb since with any firewall you can add such non-specific rules
[08:50] <Mazhdee> I can do it with iptables too, I even did it earlier in the morning, but I want to use ufw to be able to disable and re-enable the routes quickly
[08:50] <valorie> it is possible that it is buggy, for sure
[08:50] <stockfish_> when i enter home i dont see another home folder, i can see (desktop, documents, downloads, music, pictures, public, templates, videos)
[08:50] <Mazhdee> (this is for forcing all my traffic through my vpn, but sometimes I need to disable my vpn and so the firewall rules)
[08:51] <valorie> try `ubuntu-bug ufw` to file one
[08:51] <valorie> in the cli
[08:51] <Mazhdee> valorie, okay, many thanks
[08:53] <valorie> easiest/best way to file a bug
[08:56] <valorie> stockfish_: best of luck with your issues; please come back when there are more expert people helping out
[08:56]  * valorie is heading to bed
[08:57] <stockfish_> thanks a lot for your helps ;)
[09:04] <Mazhdee> valorie : good night.
[09:04] <Mazhdee> thanks to you
[09:22] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:22] <MoonUnit`> morning
[09:29] <lordievader> Hey MoonUnit`, how are you?
[09:31] <MoonUnit`> lordievader: i'm fine, ty.
[09:59] <xchatter> Since yesterday I am no longer able to enter Japanese input oon Kubuntu 15.04. It was working for many years. Does anybody know if yesterday something was changed? If I add the Japanese language in the locale settings the entire KDE GUI switched into Japanese after the next login, but I don't want that. I only want to be able to enter Japanese characters. Any idea?
[10:01] <lordievader> xchatter: What ime are you using?
[10:02] <xchatter> lordievader, what is "ime"?
[10:02] <lordievader> xchatter: The piece of software that translates your latin keyboard to hiragana/katakana/kanji.
[10:03] <xchatter> lordievader, I am not sure. Since yesterday it is gone.
[10:03] <xchatter> I had installed it age ago so I am not up-to-date.
[10:04] <xchatter> There is no more symbol in the panel.
[10:04] <lordievader> xchatter: If you wait a bit, I'll try to install it on my vivid box.
[10:04]  * lordievader usually uses ibus + mozc
[10:04] <xchatter> I think it was ibus, yes. Now as you mention it.
[10:05] <xchatter> But I don't want the entire KDE interface to be Japanese, only be able to enter Japanese chars.
[10:06] <xchatter> Could you provide me with the steps to (re)-install that, please?
[10:06] <lordievader> xchatter: There is no need to use the Japanese local for everything ;)
[10:06] <lordievader> xchatter: First need to figure out what works ;)
[10:07] <xchatter> OK, I am listening.
[10:08] <lordievader> My netboot is slow... :(
[10:11] <lordievader> xchatter: Anyhow install mozc-ibus and ibus.
[10:13] <xchatter> ibus is already newest version
[10:13] <xchatter> E: Unable to locate package mozc-ibus
[10:13] <lordievader> xchatter: Ah sorry, its ibus-mozc
[10:17] <xchatter> I installed it. But how does it show up now? Can not see anything.
[10:18] <lordievader> Something with ibus-setup, my box is still unpacking humanity-icon-theme. Having an nfs-root has its downsides.
[10:20] <xchatter> OK, thx
[10:20] <xchatter> I think I have to log out once.
[10:20] <xchatter> CU
[10:23] <sheytan> Hi there
[10:23] <lordievader> o/
[10:23] <sheytan> why there's no 3G connection available in 15.04 anymore?
[10:23] <sheytan> I'm plugging in my USB 3G modem, and nothing new appear
[10:23] <sheytan> in the network applet
[10:24] <sheytan> it was fine before, have a 15.04 clean install
[10:24] <lordievader> Perhaps there is some package not installed?
[10:24] <sheytan> might be, but wich are they?
[10:26] <lordievader> No idea.
[10:27] <xchatter> I ran ibus-setup and turned show icon on system tray. But it does not show.
[10:27] <lordievader> xchatter: Is the ibus daemon running?
[10:27] <xchatter> It says the keyboard shortcut is <super>space.
[10:27] <xchatter> What is <super> ??
[10:28] <xchatter> How can I find out?
[10:28] <lordievader> xchatter: Super is the windows key.
[10:28] <lordievader> xchatter: ps aux|grep ibus
[10:28] <xchatter> Yes, it is running.
[10:29] <lordievader> xchatter: Do you have an icon in your system tray?
[10:29] <xchatter> OK, windows and space brings up the anthy switch
[10:29] <xchatter> No, no icon.
[10:29] <xchatter> Logged out and back in. Still no icon.
[10:30] <xchatter> Kubuntu 15.04
[10:30] <lordievader> xchatter: Then you are likly facing http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
[10:32] <xchatter> But it worked until yesterday. And I installed 15.04 when it came out (official release day). Strange.
[10:33] <xchatter> Ok, but I think I can live with it. Pressing the windows key with space allows me to switch to hiragana. How about Kanji?
[10:33] <lordievader> Ah ibus is instelled here.
[10:34] <lordievader> xchatter: For that you really need to systray.
[10:35] <Guest58204> Is it possible to upgrade an existing installation of Kubuntu from the Live USB (I'm currently running in the live USB)
[10:35] <Guest58204> (Because it seems like that's possible in the Ubuntu installer)
[10:36] <Guest58204> ah nvm figured it out (cdromupgrade command)
[10:36] <xchatter> Now it stopped working again. Windows+space and then clicking on JP does not do anything anymore. :(
[10:36] <lordievader> xchatter: wmsystemtray shows ibus... but it is rather ugly.
[10:36] <xchatter> *sigh"
[10:37] <xchatter> ok
[10:37] <xchatter> I am thinking, maybe I have to reboot?
[10:37] <lordievader> xchatter: No start wmsystemtray: wmsystemtray --non-wmaker --bgcolor white
[10:38] <lordievader> In Linux you rarely have to reboot.
[10:44] <jjeronimo> could someone help me with nvidia driver problems (black screen on boot) on kubuntu 15.04, never had problems before but since my upgrade I keep getting a black screen after rebooting twice (1st time boot the driver works)
[10:44] <jjeronimo> tried purging and reinstalling nvidia*
[10:45] <MoonUnit`> that's why i use trayer instead on wmsystemtray, you get more control,  trayer --help http://paste.ubuntu.com/10976616/
[10:45] <jjeronimo> or could it be the microcode option?
[10:45] <lordievader> MoonUnit`: Can that one be included in the panel?
[10:46] <MoonUnit`> lordievader: sadly no
[10:46] <lordievader> That's too bad.
[10:50] <johan> Hi everyone. I have finnally swithced to Kubuntu and Plasma 5. I have tried to setup microphone playthrough (for kareoke) But I get 0.5 seconds delay and echo effect on it by some reason. When recording without playback there is instant and no reverb/echo.
[10:50] <johan> Anyone has an idea what could be wrong?
[10:50] <johan> I use the following bash script to enable playback on microphone
[10:51] <johan> set -e
[10:51] <johan> module=$(pactl load-module module-loopback)
[10:51] <johan> function cleanup {
[10:51] <johan>     pactl unload-module $module
[10:51] <johan> }
[10:51] <johan> trap cleanup EXIT
[10:51] <unopaste> johan you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:01] <xchatter> I have the problem that when I log in under my user name then ibus is running but when my girlfriend logs in (she wants to use Japanese input) then under her user ibus daemon is not started. Any idea?
[11:02] <lordievader> xchatter: Start another one?
[11:03] <xchatter> She is not a Linux user at all. Not a technical person.
[11:04] <xchatter> There must be a way that the daemon is started when she logs in so she can use ibus anythy.
[11:04] <lordievader> Jup, start ibus-daemon through the kde autostart stuff. <- is somewhere in the systemsettings.
[11:06] <xchatter> Would that be the service "input actions"?
[11:07] <lordievader> Err no. In plasma4 its System Settings -> Startup and Shutdown -> Autostart
[11:08] <xchatter> But I am on plasma 5
[11:08] <xchatter> 15.04
[11:09] <xchatter> On your path it only says "Desktop file, script file"
[11:09] <lordievader> I know, but I do not know where the Autostart went to.
[11:09] <xchatter> It is a background service
[11:09] <xchatter> no?
[11:10] <arunce> xchatter: choose the desktop file. script file seems to not be working.
[11:10] <lordievader> No.
[11:10] <xchatter> But it can not be edited.
[11:11] <xchatter> I can only add scripts
[11:11] <xchatter> I will check this out under her user name.
[11:11] <xchatter> Hold on.
[11:13] <vbgunz> In 15.04, 2 problems that are quite upsetting are double clicking on the title bar of any window no longer maximizes/restores it and bookmarks in dolphin disappear on every new start of dolphin
[11:13] <vbgunz> am I the only one to experience this? is there a solution?
[11:15] <MoonUnit`> min/max working for me, bookmarks problem is known.
[11:15] <vbgunz> MoonUnit`: I can use the titlebar buttons for max/restore but I can no longer double click the title bar to do that
[11:16] <vbgunz> can you double click the titlebar and get that behaviour? it works for you?
[11:16] <MoonUnit`> yes thats working fo me.
[11:17] <MoonUnit`> have my double click interval at 400msec.
[11:19] <alvin> What's the systemd/network-manager method of requesting a DHCPv6 address?
[11:20] <alvin> vbgunz: works for me too
[11:21] <vbgunz> hmm, let me see if I can change it
[11:22] <vbgunz> wow, none of my titlebar actions work
[11:35] <vbgunz> well, I found a bug on kde bugs and added to it, did find a workaround for the bookmarks
[11:36] <vbgunz> thanks fellas
[11:40] <vbgunz> I made a change to /etc/profile.d/kwin.sh and added export __GL_YIELD="USLEEP" to it then ran this -> kwin_x11 --replace and my double click on the titlebar maximize/restore works
[11:52] <xchatter> How can I start ibus automatically?
[11:54] <xchatter> Why is ibus started automaticall under my user (admin rights) but not started under another user (no admin rights)?
[11:54] <xchatter> I use Kubuntu 15.04.
[11:56] <xchatter> This solution does not work for me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8528382 It does not start the ibus.
[12:01] <alvin> No, autostart in plasma5 is partly broken. Check 'kcmshell5 autostart' again. Your script entries will have disappeared.
[12:04] <xchatter> I don't have anything in the autostart under my user name and still ibus runs. Why doesn't it run under another user?
[12:06] <xchatter> How can I find out from what mechanism ibus is started under my user name?
[12:48] <VYCK> Hi guys, I installed kubuntu, everything works except one thing.I can't enter my encryption password on the splash menu, it doesn't react.But on the other hand entering encryption password from a recovery mode works like a miracle.Any help?
[12:52] <alvin> I'd try removing splash first.
[12:53] <alvin> aaand DHCPv6 is broken too.
[12:53] <jjeronimo> Why is it when I install the latest nvidia drivers on ubuntu 15.04, everything works on the first boot, but on the second boot I get a black screen?
[12:54] <alvin> Hey, I got that the other way around. First boot, blank screen after grub. Second boot it works. Every time. I took out the card.
[12:54] <jjeronimo> I'm on a laptop :)
[12:56] <jjeronimo> I read somewhere you need to define the laptop dvi screen in the xorg.conf
[12:56] <jjeronimo> but I can't find the site anymore :/
[12:57] <jjeronimo> is it dvi on a laptop?
[12:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:01] <MoonUnit`> LVDS isn't it on laptops?
[13:04] <jjeronimo> MoonUnit`: trying to figureout what I should put in the screen section of the xorg.conf
[13:05] <BluesKaj> jjeronimo, are you on kubuntu or ubuntu?
[13:05] <jjeronimo> kubuntu
[13:05] <MoonUnit`> if you run xrandr from a terminal it should display the available connections.
[13:06] <BluesKaj> jjeronimo, I saw your issue in #ubuntu, which nvidia gpu?
[13:06] <jjeronimo> 970M
[13:07] <jjeronimo> BluesKaj: geforce gtx 970M
[13:11] <BluesKaj> jjeronimo, when booting can drop to a TTY/VT ? if so sudo apt-get install nvidia-346, then reboot
[13:11] <jjeronimo> I did
[13:12] <jjeronimo> and 149
[13:12] <jjeronimo> 349*
[13:12] <BluesKaj> did you try the 340?
[13:12] <jjeronimo> using the driver manager yes
[13:13] <BluesKaj> jjeronimo, which driver does the manager recommend
[13:13] <jjeronimo> then I got a black screen, tty'd, purged nvidia*, installed the edge ppa, installed 349
[13:13] <jjeronimo> rebooted, everyting works
[13:14] <jjeronimo> rebooted again, black screen
[13:17] <jjeronimo> strange right? :)
[13:17] <BluesKaj> jjeronimo, ok what about the xserver-xorg-video-nouveau ? Seems like your onlu option , and xedgers are worth using because new nidia updates will break  their divers
[13:17] <BluesKaj> correction xedgers are not worth using
[13:18] <jjeronimo> ok
[13:18] <BluesKaj> I have used the xedsgers and usually break within a few weeks
[13:19] <jjeronimo> then I'll purge nvidia* again
[13:19] <jjeronimo> n install 340
[13:19] <jjeronimo> but my problem will remain
[13:24] <BluesKaj> jjeronimo, did the nouveau driver work ok after the OS installation ? if so you may need too use that for a while .
[13:24] <BluesKaj> too=to
[13:24] <jjeronimo> Didn't try nouveau yet
[13:25] <BluesKaj> did you do-release-upgrade from 14.10?
[13:25] <jjeronimo> yes I recently upgraded to 15.04
[13:26] <BluesKaj> or did you do a clean install?
[13:28] <BluesKaj> if you did a clean install then the default driver was nouveau
[13:28] <jjeronimo> ah ok, yes that worked
[13:28] <jjeronimo> the default driver worked
[13:28] <krise> I made a start up usb with kubuntu vivid but my computer wont load from usb at start up. What might be the problem ?  i did change boot  priority at boot menu but still nothing
[13:29] <BluesKaj> then you need to make a decision, jjeronimo
[13:29] <jjeronimo> nouveau is too slow, I wouldnt be able to watch netflix movies
[13:30] <BluesKaj> krise your uefi/bios might need to secure boot disabled
[13:30] <BluesKaj> to have
[13:30] <jjeronimo> maybe I should downgrade to 14.10
[13:31] <BluesKaj> jjeronimo, are you sure about netflix not working ?
[13:31] <jjeronimo> BluesKaj: yeah, flash is slow without hardware acceleration
[13:32] <BluesKaj> odd nouveau worked fine on my entry level nvidia 8400GS
[13:33] <jjeronimo> I have the latest hardware, gtx 970m
[13:34] <jjeronimo> core i7
[13:34] <BluesKaj> yes, that's probly the problem
[13:34] <jjeronimo> still too slow
[13:35] <krise> selected uefi os , secure boot disabled, in boot menu first is usb hdd
[13:35] <krise> dont boot
[13:35] <jjeronimo> they should warn people for installing non lts releases :(
[13:37] <BluesKaj> krise, it could be the usb iso image isn't bootable ...I had that problem with startup disk and unetbootin both , had to trt startup disk twice.
[13:37] <krise> hm
[13:37] <krise> ok
[13:40] <BluesKaj> jjeronimo, I don't normally recommend the linux driver from the nvidia site, but it might work
[13:41] <jjeronimo> untill the next kernell upgrade right?
[13:41] <BluesKaj> yup
[13:41] <jjeronimo> but yeah it might be a temporary solution
[13:41] <jjeronimo> thx
[14:02] <krise> BluesKaj did i understand right that i had to mark iso file as executable and make new start up disk ?
[14:03] <BluesKaj> krise, I'm merely telling you my experience and some other users had with startup disk
[14:04] <krise> well, mine dont still work
[14:05] <krise> will it work if i burn it to dvd ?
[14:05] <BluesKaj> dunno for sure . it might
[14:07] <BluesKaj> krise, you might want to try legacy mode with the usb first
[14:10] <krise> how can i doo that
[14:13] <BluesKaj> krise in the uefi/bios
[14:49] <krise> Thanks BluesKaj , Legacy mode worked. Now i have different problem, when i connect my external hard drive it gives me an error message. I will copy that to pastebin. I know it works in windows computer
[14:49] <krise> https://paste.kde.org/pabyr6lsl
[14:50] <krise> viirus is my ext. hard drive name
[14:54] <MoonUnit`> maybe try ntfsfix?
[14:55] <jjeronimo> hmmz strange my xorg.conf keeps being overridden
[14:55] <BluesKaj> krise, mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdd1
[14:56] <krise> step by step please
[14:57] <BluesKaj> krise, in the terminal run the above
[14:57] <jjeronimo> everytime I reboot my xorg.conf resets
[14:59] <jjeronimo> nvidia-xconfig generates a different config than the one I'm trying to override
[14:59] <BluesKaj> we don't normally need an xorg.conf anymore , so you might want to blank it and if you insist then run nvidia-xconfig afterwards
[15:00] <jjeronimo> I'm still trying to fix the blank display problem when I boot
[15:01] <krise> terminal tells me that only root can doo that
[15:01] <jjeronimo> without resorting to the binary nvidia drivers on the site from nvidia
[15:03] <jjeronimo> BluesKaj: I tried that, it resets to a certain default config after reboot
[15:04] <BluesKaj> jjeronimo, then blank both xorgs and reboot
[15:04] <jjeronimo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10978285/
[15:04] <jjeronimo> both?
[15:05] <jjeronimo> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:05] <jjeronimo> and?
[15:07] <jjeronimo> is the one my system keeps restoring too
[15:07] <jjeronimo> this one is generated by nvidia-xconfig http://paste.ubuntu.com/10978305/
[15:09] <krise> BluesKaj this happends mount: can't find /dev/sdd1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[15:12] <BluesKaj> jjeronimo, delete the xorg files is all i can think of then, we usually don't need them
[15:12] <jjeronimo> I did that, it reapears after reboot
[15:14] <BluesKaj> krise, check this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[15:18] <MoonUnit`> jjeronimo: the arch wiki has a good section on nvidia, has a section on : No screens found on a laptop/NVIDIA Optimus
[15:18] <MoonUnit`> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA
[15:21] <jjeronimo> MoonUnit`: thx, will try that
[15:25] <jjeronimo> bumblebee is an option?
[15:27] <jjeronimo> This article is outdated I think, still talks about nvidia 295
[15:27] <jjeronimo> oh no sorry it's not
[15:28] <MoonUnit`> no idea, only have radeon cards.
[15:28] <jjeronimo> brb
[15:30] <BluesKaj> MoonUnit`, how did you guess he's using optimus , good call , then he should use nvidia-prime, correct?
[15:31] <MoonUnit`> just a guess saw his xorg conf had intel and nvidia sections.
[15:32] <BluesKaj> I didn't bother looking at it ...maybe I should next tme , just assumed his HW is too new :)
[15:33] <MoonUnit`> no idea with nvidia, i tend to stick with radeon the opensource drivers are pretty good for me.
[15:35] <BluesKaj> right, i had a few probs with nvidia on 15.04 at first with plsama 5.2 , but 5.3 seems work fine now\
[15:53] <jjeronimo> new clue, error setting up nvidia prime
[15:57] <BluesKaj> jjeronimo, you could have told us about your 2 gpu optimus system at the outset ...i didn't bother reading the xorg file because I thought you din't need it
[15:59] <jjeronimo> msi.com/product/nb/GS70-2PE-Stealth-Pro.html
[15:59] <jjeronimo> is my system
[16:00] <jjeronimo> BluesKaj: eh ? ok ? 2gpu's intel and nvidia I guess?
[16:01] <BluesKaj> so it seems , by your xorg file
[16:04] <jjeronimo> Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
[16:04] <jjeronimo> 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM204M [GeForce GTX 970M] (rev a1)
[16:04] <jjeronimo> so what does this mean?
[16:11] <BluesKaj> jjeronimo, afaik nvidia-prime supports the nvidia gpu when partnered with the intel low level graphics
[16:12] <jjeronimo> yes, it used to just work
[16:12] <jjeronimo> before my upgrade to 15.04
[16:22] <BluesKaj> jjeronimo, have you done a dist-upgrade in the last day or so, the final plasma 5.3 is now in the backports so thjat may change your issue with nvidia-prime
[16:23] <jjeronimo> no  offence, it sounds like a long shot, in my humble noob opinion :)
[16:26] <BluesKaj> jjeronimo, not really , I had problems with nvidia on plasma 5.2 , but after installing plasma 5.3 the graphics problems cleared up
[16:27] <jjeronimo> BluesKaj: ok thx, I'll check
[16:30] <BluesKaj> jjeronimo, make sure the backports are enabled in the /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:32] <jjeronimo> BluesKaj: not yet
[16:35] <jjeronimo> BluesKaj: ok, thx, ill try that
[16:48] <jjeronimo> BluesKaj: I did a prime-select intel, that works, but no nvidia
[16:48] <jjeronimo> BluesKaj: I upgraded to plasma 5.3, no effect
[16:51] <Mneuro> What is the difference between OpenGL 2.0 and 3.1 for Kwin Compositing?
[16:54] <BluesKaj> Mneuro, not much , unless you're gaming
[16:55] <Mneuro> BluesKaj, I play a lot of games on my pc, what does it effect for gaming
[16:55] <BluesKaj> or have every desktop effect enabled
[16:56] <BluesKaj> use 3.1 then , it will probly work fine
[16:56] <Mneuro> BluesKaj 2.0 was working fine.  Is there any performance different in games to use one over the other?
[16:59] <BluesKaj> yes, 31.1 is more advanced in 3D graphics terms etc, but will use more battery power on laptops
[17:43] <s1lent> hello folks, I have troubles with baloo_file_extractor process. this process is running again and again and i dont, how can I stop it... I have kubuntu 14.10
[17:43] <s1lent> any ideas please?
[17:43] <s1lent> *i dont know
[17:47] <BluesKaj> s1lent, open system settings> search>file search , uncheck "enable file search"
[17:47] <s1lent> BluesKaj: thanks :)
[17:47] <BluesKaj> s1lent,` yw
[18:04] <_Roey> BluesKaj, lordievader: I got my problems with SDDM fixed when upgrading from Kubuntu 15.04 stock KDE -> Plasma 5.3 PPA
[18:05] <lordievader> _Roey: I know ;)
[18:08] <Etriaph> G'day folks.
[18:08] <lordievader> o/
[18:09] <Etriaph> How's the day lordievader?
[18:09] <lordievader> Pretty good. How are you, Etriaph?
[18:10] <Etriaph> Laundry's done, kitchen is clean, floors are clean.  I'm great now :D
[18:31] <Dragostini1> Hey everyone, I asked in #kde as well but no reply so thought I'd ask here.
[18:31] <Dragostini1> [14:26] <Dragostini1> I've been using Plasma5 for a week or so now on Kubuntu 15.04, and just tried to set my panel to "Windows Can Cover" (Intellihide essentially), but when I hover my mouse over the area, or apply pressure, it doesn't pop up. Google fu has told me others are complaining about this too, but I haven't seen a solution. Anyone found one?
[20:02] <irctc646> hi everybody, i got a problem... i had to install an o.s. winzozz on a empty partition and obviously i didn't thought to the grub or a dual boot so it boot with winzozz... what can i do for a dual boot now?
[20:06] <kibou> update grub
[20:08] <irctc646> @kibou right now i m using the Try Kubuntu is working anyway?
[20:11] <kibou> @irctc646 you are on the live dvd right now ? if you kept your windows partition you can issue the " update-grub " command on the CLI and it should generate a new grub menu with windows and linux
[20:14] <irctc646> ok i will try this way... thanx
[20:44] <Vapoor> hello
[21:03] <lordievader> o/
[21:17] <hyper_ch> it's so annoying, that Konsole freezes when resizing
[21:41] <typhoon_2099> Hey guys, i can't get any startup scripts to stay in my Autostart, whenever I leave and come back the scripts have been removed from the menu, but stay in the ~/.config/autostart directory.
[21:51] <typhoon_2099> I dont' know why it's doing this, I've checked the file permissions, the file location, checked that it's executable and it's all fine, but KDE doessn't recognise the symlink (or copy) that it creates. It only stopped working since I upgraded to 15.04
[21:51] <valorie> hyper_ch: please file a bug
[21:52] <valorie> typhoon_2099: I've noticed a few people experiencing problems that could be permissions problems
[21:52] <typhoon_2099> Are other people experiencing the same issue?
[21:53] <valorie> you can try `chown -R /home/user`
[21:53] <valorie> with your username
[21:53] <valorie> a few
[21:53] <typhoon_2099> I can do that, I already am the owner of the file.
[21:53] <valorie> and I have a suspicion they used sudo sometime they shouldn't
[21:53] <valorie> right, that just ensures proper permissions in your whole home
[21:55] <Guest16661> Hello
[21:56] <arunce> hi, how can I configue a keyboard shortcut to a panel?
[21:57] <typhoon_2099> Still getting the same result. Should I post the bug to KDE or Kubuntu? this is new in 15.04, it worked fine in 14.10
[21:57] <hyper_ch> valorie: I did... but no reply this far
[22:18] <hyper_ch> valorie: you said you use a different console proggy than Konsole? which one was it again?
[22:45] <Xenoth> I just got a new USB mouse, and it autosleeps when not used every 5 mins. Is there a way to prevent this? The mouse doesn't have anything that can be changed, settings wise.
[22:45] <Xenoth> Well, the mouse firmware can't change it's behavior*
[23:53] <Finetundra> hey guys, can someone suggest to me a good program that sub's for windows movie maker?


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[07:02] <Saviq> Good morn'!
[07:02] <Saviq> RAOF (he/they) did you manage to get through the pcc64el issue? I wonder if it's gcc-12 again?
[07:06] <RAOF> Saviq: It is, indeed, gcc-12 again.
[07:06] <Saviq> Not a good release…
[07:07] <RAOF> It's still not clear to me why gcc thinks we're writing several petabytes into a buffer, but I can work around it by disabling the error on just that file.
[07:07] <RAOF> The code itself looks absolutely harmless.
[07:07] <RAOF> (Likewise for the riscv64 error)
[07:28] <RAOF> Hm, we want these upstream, because we want them to apply to our PPA builds...
[07:28] <Saviq> Yas.
 "It's still not clear to me why..." <- And still we trust it to generate correct code?
[07:46] <RAOF> So: this is only in test code, and it'll be executed by the testsuite.
[07:46] <RAOF> So I think quirking the weirdness (and filing bugs) is a reasonable response.
[07:49] <alan_g[m]> Sure, I was appreciating the irony
[08:12] <RAOF> Aaarg. I clearly misunderstand the cmake commandline tool.
[08:13] <RAOF> At least ppc64el & riscv64 (a) cross-build locally, and (b) ppc64el fails fairly quickly.
[08:13] <RAOF> Well, fixing that is a tomorrow-me job.
[08:14] <RAOF> 👋
[10:29] <alan_g[m]> Saviq FYI I just rebased https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2621 on main. (Which now has  #2614.) Do you have any further feedback on it?
[10:37] <Saviq> Well, yeah, it didn't help
[10:39] <Saviq> I mean, the flashes
[10:39] <Saviq> The visual glitch was fixed indeed
[10:39] <Saviq> And haven't encountered crafted
[10:39] <Saviq> *crashes
[10:40] <alan_g[m]> Yeah, it does fix swaybg. And it was just hope that one of the other problems might be fixed too
[10:53] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** bors[bot] merged [pull request #2617](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2617): Ignore wl_pointer.set_cursor if incorrect serial is given
[10:53] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** bors[bot] closed [issue #2532](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2532): Verify wl_pointer.set_cursor() serial matches latest wl_pointer.enter() serial
[13:47] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** AlanGriffiths marked [pull request #2621](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2621): Bind shm textures when we create the buffers as ready for review
[13:49] <alan_g[m]> Saviq there's another update to https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2621, in theory it should work the same and, so far, has worked on my machine
[13:50] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** AlanGriffiths requested a review from wmww for [pull request #2627](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2627): [MinimalWindowManager] Move pointer-drag implementation from examples
[13:50] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** AlanGriffiths requested a review from Saviq for [pull request #2627](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2627): [MinimalWindowManager] Move pointer-drag implementation from examples
[13:55] <Saviq> ACK, will test
[15:11] <Saviq> alan_g re: pointer-drag implementation, the huge change to `regenerate-miral-symbols.py`, that's forgotten from the last release, is it?
[15:13] <Saviq> Should we have a at-release check so it doesn't go forgotten?
[15:14] <alan_g[m]> Saviq: Not so much forgotten as not needed yet
[15:15] <alan_g[m]> Note that it's only this big because of the ABI break
[15:17] <Saviq> Why do we need the second copy of "old" entries, btw? Isn't that what `symbols.map` is? And that should be compared to what the built library has? (/me looked into abigail, but the output I got so far was not helpful)
[15:20] <alan_g[m]> You mean the `OLD_STANZAS` constant? That's there to determine which symbols are new. I guess we could parse it from `symbols.map` but we'd need to know what the current stanza is.
[15:21] <alan_g[m]> Note that Sophe has a PR up to rework this, but that makes different trade-offs that started some discussion
[15:24] <Saviq> Hmm so this comes from docs, even… sounds like publishing docs from github into discourse :P
[15:28] <alan_g[m]> It works for some value of "works" and is simple. You are welcome to help improve it
[15:29] <alan_g[m]> Mostly we just need to cut & paste the most recent stanza into OLD_STANZAS
[15:58] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq closed [issue #2585](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2585): Menus of panels don't close when losing (or don't lose) focus
[16:02] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq closed [issue #2582](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2582): Excessive load when surface draws with multiple displays configured
[16:19] <Saviq> Good night o/
[16:51] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** AlanGriffiths opened [pull request #2631](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2631): Track keyboard modifiers better
[16:51] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server-
[16:51] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- > Fixes: #2592
[17:25] <sophie-w> alan_g: looks like https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2631 has some unrelated rendering commits
 "alan_g: looks like https://..." <- Oops. Yeah, is on top of #2621. Will fix after dinner
 "Oops. Yeah, is on top of #2621..." <- I can drop the commits


[01:09]  * babbageclunk goes to look at another house
[01:12] <axw> wallyworld: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8126 merges develop into the feature branch. there's one commit that's added on top of the merge, mentioned in the comments
[01:12] <wallyworld> righto
[01:25] <wallyworld> axw: lgtm, will be good to get that landed
[01:25] <axw> wallyworld: thanks
[03:31] <axw> wallyworld: thanks for splitting up your PR, I'll take a look a bit later on after I've got my next PR up, and merge fixed
[03:32] <wallyworld> yup, no worries
[04:54] <axw> wallyworld: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8127 fixes the other half of the storage bug


[06:27] <ara> good morning, everybody
[08:47] <davmor2> morning all
[08:55] <sharky> morn'in
[09:35] <czajkowski> davmor2: I like your reply makes a lotta sense
[09:36] <davmor2> czajkowski: thanks I think that was what marjo and ara were trying to get at though
[09:36] <czajkowski> aye
[09:36] <czajkowski> I already said to ara I like option B
[10:21]  * ara needs to go out for some errands, will be back ~30m
[12:04] <ara> my ISP is funky today... let's see how long it last
[13:05] <davmor2> sbeattie: I've tried the grub issue on hardy manually and is okay on a jfs build I will try in expert mode incase it is expert mode specific after lunch
[13:52]  * ara -> lunch
[14:02] <fader_> Mornin' all
[14:04] <davmor2> fader_: Morning dude I see you brought the netsplits with you ;)
[14:04] <davmor2> morning cr3
[14:12] <cr3> davmor2: yo homie
[14:13] <davmor2> cr3: yo officie
[14:13] <davmor2> morning alexmoldovan
[14:25] <fader_> davmor2: You don't happen to have an HP/Compaq Mini 500 do you?
[14:27] <davmor2> fader_: I have a compaq mini 110 not sure if it is the same hw
[14:27] <fader_> Yeah, I'm not sure either
[14:27] <fader_> Have you tried recent UNR images on it?
[14:28] <davmor2> fader_: it the one schwuk has if that helps :)
[14:28] <davmor2> fader_: no but I can run a live one if you so wish?
[14:28] <schwuk> davmor2: no - mine if the Compaq Mini 700, which is the same as the HP Mini 1000 that fader_ has.
[14:29] <schwuk> 702EA to be precise. :)
[14:29] <davmor2> schwuk: ah
[14:29] <fader_> davmor2: Yeah, if you could give it a shot I'd appreciate it
[14:29] <davmor2> mine is 110-1010sa
[14:29] <fader_> No need to even install; just let me know if the live image works
[14:30] <fader_> I'm not sure if it's the same model or not, as the one I'm working with is a prototype and so is labelled differently
[14:30] <fader_> But it's not booting on UNR when other machines will from the same stick, so I'm starting to wonder if it's bad hardware
[14:30] <davmor2> fader_: netbook-edition or remix?
[14:31] <davmor2> fader_: so unr or une?
[14:34] <davmor2> fader_: I'm going with une
[14:53] <davmor2> fader_: welcome back
[14:55] <fader_> davmor2: I never left... it's IRC that got small!
[15:03] <davmor2> fader_: I got a desktop on une but I still don't know if that is what you are using :P
[15:04] <fader_> davmor2: Thanks; I'm leaning heavily toward bad hardware here now.  I'll make a karmic stick in a bit to verify.
[15:04] <fader_> Now I'm having ubiquity crashes that I'm trying to make sure I can replicate :)
[15:06] <fader_> ... and there it is.    They're always flawless.
[15:07] <fader_> Also, I have this bridge I need to sell...
[15:08] <davmor2> fader_: for sale London bridge
[15:12] <ScottK> That did get sold.  Isn't it in Arizona now?
[15:32] <fader_> davmor2: As I sit here waiting for my USB stick to finish zeroing, have you tried installing from today's UNR?
[15:39] <davmor2> fader_: Nope only the live desktop from une I can try unr
[15:40] <fader_> If you have time I'd like to know if ubiquity is dying for you as well
[15:40] <fader_> Just so I can rule out the stick altogether
[16:03] <davmor2> fader_: are you missing the options down the side?
[16:04] <davmor2> fader_: meh nevermind
[16:09] <fader_> davmor2: Huh?
[16:37]  * ara calls it a day and goes to her Pilates class
[16:38] <fader_> ara: Ciao!
[16:38] <fader_> davmor2: Man, I go make a phone call and someone else beats me to the bug!  Bug 510710
[16:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 510710 in ubiquity "ubiquity crashed with NameError in progress_loop()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/510710


[14:05] <bkerensa> pleia2: good morning
[14:05] <bkerensa> philballew: good morning
[14:06] <philballew> bkerensa, yo!
[16:04] <philipballew> pleia2, the Ubuntu Womens group is still on I assume for today?
[16:05] <philipballew> gonna pop into that session,
[16:06] <pleia2> philipballew: yes, 19:05 utc
[16:07] <philipballew> pleia2, nice, now I just need to learn utc for once.
[16:08] <pleia2> 3 hours from now
[16:11] <nhandler> philipballew: date --date='19:05 UTC'
[16:23] <MarkDude> Community link is 11:05, I expect that one to be boring. http://design.canonical.com/2013/05/ubuntu-com-update/ helps a bit :)
[16:23] <darthrobot`> Title: [Ubuntu.com update | Ubuntu Design Blog]
[16:24]  * MarkDude is under the impression he is of FAR more use to UW, in the shadows, and keeping quiet for most part
[21:59] <MarkDude> grantbow: you anywhere near SF?
[23:45] <grantbow> MarkDude: I'm at home, you know how to reach me.


[01:22] <tsimonq2> Would it be possible to spin up images for Lubuntu to try out enabling recommends again?
[04:25] <tsimonq2> infinity, slangasek: Lubuntu missed a regression, and the root of the cause was that ship-live-share was not being pulled in. This MP fixes that, please merge: https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/ubuntu-cdimage/different-ship-live-names-lubuntu/+merge/333937
[04:25] <tsimonq2> wxl: That MP we talked about ^^^^^^^^^
[04:27] <wxl> whhy is it building a separate image????
[04:28] <tsimonq2> wxl: Sorry?
[04:28] <tsimonq2> wxl: That's unrelated to my question about reenabling recommends.
[04:29] <wxl> i guess i'm not grokking what this mmp is doing
[04:29] <tsimonq2> wxl: So we have two live images, Lubuntu and Lubuntu Next.
[04:30] <tsimonq2> wxl: The seed is laid out so that we have a couple different ones to accommodate.
[04:30] <tsimonq2> wxl: We have {ship,desktop,core}-{share,gtk,qt}
[04:31] <wxl> what's the purpose of share?
[04:31] <tsimonq2> Common packages which both subflavors (if you will) share.
[04:32] <tsimonq2> Before the initial code, things weren't being pulled in correctly.
[04:32] <tsimonq2> But, Lubuntu LXDE needs to pull in the ship-live-gtk and ship-live-share in order to have all the packages needed.
[04:32] <tsimonq2> Same with Lubuntu Next but with ship-live-qt
[04:33] <wxl> ok i think i get the plan now
[04:33] <tsimonq2> What we overlooked when the original MP was merged is that having ship-live-{qt,gtk} didn't pull in share, and share has our LVM and shim and all the packages people have been reporting missing.
[04:33] <tsimonq2> But yeah.
[04:33] <wxl> oh jeez
[04:34] <tsimonq2> That fixes it.
[04:34] <wxl> well i'm glad you figured that out
[04:34] <tsimonq2> Credit goes to krytarik for this one. ;)
[04:35] <wxl> wow nice
[04:41] <tsimonq2> infinity, slangasek: Would it be at all possible to, once we confirm for a fact that this MP solves the problems we intend it to solve, do a respin of 17.10 final images, or is that not at all possible?
[12:22] <doko> updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1732742
[17:29] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, we need anthy for qt5
[17:29] <LocutusOfBorg> :/
[17:29] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm going to upload now
[17:31] <LocutusOfBorg> please review the merge and accept if you can, I'll do the transition after it is ok
[17:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: anthy [i386] (bionic-proposed/main) [1:0.3-6ubuntu1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[17:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: anthy [s390x] (bionic-proposed/main) [1:0.3-6ubuntu1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[17:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: anthy [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/main) [1:0.3-6ubuntu1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[17:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: anthy [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [1:0.3-6ubuntu1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[17:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: anthy [arm64] (bionic-proposed/main) [1:0.3-6ubuntu1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[17:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: anthy [armhf] (bionic-proposed/main) [1:0.3-6ubuntu1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[17:54] <LocutusOfBorg> https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/auto-anthy.html this the tracker 8 packages needs no-change rebuilds, and 3 of them are already in dep-wait, so 5 rebuilds and it should be done
[17:54] <LocutusOfBorg> if any AA can approve it ??
[18:01] <LocutusOfBorg> 6 rebuilds and 2 depwait actually
[19:07] <xnox> slangasek, even though systemd has migrated; i should still stop using nested KVM with the next upload, right?
[21:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: openjdk-10 (bionic-proposed/primary) [10~32-0ubuntu1]
[21:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted anthy [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [1:0.3-6ubuntu1]
[21:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted anthy [armhf] (bionic-proposed) [1:0.3-6ubuntu1]
[21:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted anthy [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [1:0.3-6ubuntu1]
[21:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openjdk-10 [source] (bionic-proposed) [10~32-0ubuntu1]
[21:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted anthy [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [1:0.3-6ubuntu1]
[21:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted anthy [s390x] (bionic-proposed) [1:0.3-6ubuntu1]
[21:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted anthy [i386] (bionic-proposed) [1:0.3-6ubuntu1]
[22:09] <tsimonq2> Can I get a review on calamares-settings-ubuntu please? :)
[22:09] <tsimonq2> (it's blocking a project I'm working on)
[22:30] <doko> tsimonq2: tomorrow, but you could work on that in the meantime ;p https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-mpv/0.13-1ubuntu1
[22:32] <tsimonq2> doko: Part of the transition mess
[22:33] <tsimonq2> doko: In fact, let me try rebuilding now that your no-change rebuild is published
[22:34] <tsimonq2> doko: (so yes I had eyes on it ;P)
[22:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: uim [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/universe) [1:1.8.6+gh20161003.0.d63dadd-8build1] (no packageset)
[22:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openjdk-10 [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/universe) [10~32-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[22:38] <tsimonq2> doko: oh hey, it built ;D
[22:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: uim [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [1:1.8.6+gh20161003.0.d63dadd-8build1] (no packageset)
[22:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: uim [i386] (bionic-proposed/universe) [1:1.8.6+gh20161003.0.d63dadd-8build1] (no packageset)
[22:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: uim [armhf] (bionic-proposed/universe) [1:1.8.6+gh20161003.0.d63dadd-8build1] (no packageset)
[22:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: uim [arm64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [1:1.8.6+gh20161003.0.d63dadd-8build1] (no packageset)
[22:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openjdk-10 [s390x] (bionic-proposed/universe) [10~32-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[23:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openjdk-10 [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [10~32-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[23:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openjdk-10 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [10~32-0ubuntu1]
[23:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openjdk-10 [s390x] (bionic-proposed) [10~32-0ubuntu1]
[23:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openjdk-10 [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [10~32-0ubuntu1]
[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted uim [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [1:1.8.6+gh20161003.0.d63dadd-8build1]
[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted uim [armhf] (bionic-proposed) [1:1.8.6+gh20161003.0.d63dadd-8build1]
[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted uim [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [1:1.8.6+gh20161003.0.d63dadd-8build1]
[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted uim [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [1:1.8.6+gh20161003.0.d63dadd-8build1]
[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted uim [i386] (bionic-proposed) [1:1.8.6+gh20161003.0.d63dadd-8build1]


[09:17] <stub> kiko: Talk louder or here
[09:20] <kiko> "here"
[10:14] <daf> SteveA, carlos: https://wiki.canonical.com/RosettaMataroDemo
[10:48] <SteveA> lifeless: good morning.
[10:48] <SteveA> lifeless: can you get me the end of the production launchapd logs?
[10:48] <SteveA> lifeless: the forgotten password app is broken.
[10:52] <lifeless> launchpad@macquarie ~/dists/launchpad $ tail nohup.out
[10:52] <lifeless>   File "/home/launchpad/dists/launchpad/lib/sqlobject/dbconnection.py", line 221, in _queryOne
[10:52] <lifeless>     self._executeRetry(conn, c, s)
[10:52] <lifeless>   File "/home/launchpad/dists/launchpad/lib/sqlobject/dbconnection.py", line 194, in _executeRetry
[10:52] <lifeless>     return cursor.execute(query)
[10:52] <lifeless>   File "/home/launchpad/dists/launchpad/lib/zope/app/rdb/__init__.py", line 258, in execute
[10:52] <lifeless>     return self.cursor.execute(operation)
[10:52] <lifeless> OperationalError: no connection to the server
[10:56] <elmo> err, meh, sorry, that'll be from the emperor vs. the remote management card reboot
[10:56] <SteveA> oh
[10:56] <lifeless> isn't it meant to reconnect ?
[10:56] <jblack> Who's the guy responsible for launchpad authentication?
[10:56] <dilys> Merge to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>revert lint UI change that regressed usability, and add po/README officially (patch-29)
[10:57] <jblack> I need authentication for the supermirror, and if I can get away with it, I'd like to hijack launchpad credentials
[10:57] <SteveA> it is meant to.  there's an outstanding bug on making this more robust
[10:57] <SteveA> it only works sometimes
[10:57] <jblack> dilys: Pardon?
[10:57] <lifeless> dilys tracks commits.
[10:57] <lifeless> and bugs.
[10:57] <SteveA> we need to restart the xml auth server and the production launchpad right now
[10:57] <lifeless> steve - on it
[10:57] <SteveA> jblack: you can use the xml auth server.  talk to spiv.
[10:57] <elmo> the auth server should be fine
[10:57] <elmo> I restasrted it
[10:57] <SteveA> lifeless: thank you.
[10:58] <SteveA> okay elmo, thanks
[10:58] <jblack> stevea: Thanks
[10:58] <lifeless> restarted
[10:59] <jblack> dilys: What was the lint problem you just reverted?
[10:59] <SteveA> lifeless: yep, it works.  thank you.
[10:59] <lifeless> jblack: the 'Linting Source Tree' chatter, it broke lint | xargs
[11:00] <jblack> why is he running xargs on human readable data?
[11:00] <jblack> Rather than reverse the chatter, I'd rather add a silent option
[11:00] <lifeless> jblack: I was. dilys is a bot.
[11:00] <lifeless> why was the chatter needed anyway?
[11:01] <jblack> Because we're printing two sorts of output. I'd like them categoriezed, so that the user has an idea of what the output is the about
[11:01] <jblack> There's the lint report, and the changeset report (which I believe has chatter now)
[11:01] <lifeless> then print that from the commit script, not from the lint script.
[11:02] <lifeless> cause commit knows its about to lint.
[11:02] <jblack> Ok. That's fair.
[11:03] <jblack> Did you just remove the lint print, or did you actually revert?
[11:03] <jblack> pardon, the lint chatter.
[11:03] <lifeless> reverted the code.
[11:03] <jblack> grrrrr
[11:03] <lifeless> the rest of the patch stays in.
[11:03] <jblack> oh, misunderstood.
[11:03] <jblack> Ok. Thats fine
[11:04] <spiv> So, "Missing inode signature. Cannot verify reference tree layout integrity: you should remove and recreate this reference tree."  Should I just blow away my revlib and pretend I never saw it?
[11:04] <lifeless> spiv: just ignore it.
[11:04] <lifeless> do a couple of commits and it will go away.
[11:04] <spiv> Ok.  That makes me slightly nervous, but ok :)
[11:04] <dilys> jblack: I just paste commit messages into the channel
[11:04] <jblack> dilys: Will you be my roomate?
[11:04] <jblack> Then I can just turn off your microphone, and my snoring won't bother you
[11:11] <jblack> Does malone have a bidi email interface?
[11:23] <stub> jblack: No. It is planned, but hasn't been implemented
[11:53] <dilys> Merge to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Added more plural form data from evolution's po files (patch-945)
[12:38] <dilys> New Malone bug #117: "Needs more acme widgets", submitted by Daniel Silverstone
[12:38] <dilys> https://dogfood.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/117
[01:12] <dilys> Merge to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Removed a forgotten classmethod call. (patch-946)
[03:36] <bob2> erm
[03:36] <bob2> the project list page searches product descriptions as well as projects, right?
[04:06] <dilys> New Malone bug #118: "translation form does not work with cookie auth", submitted by Carlos Perell Marn
[04:06] <dilys> https://dogfood.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/118
[04:25] <dilys> New Malone bug #119: "There is no way to remove a person from CC, ignore or Watch", submitted by Carlos Perell Marn
[04:25] <dilys> https://dogfood.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/119
[05:01] <dilys> Merge to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>remove summary from the bug add page and, for now, simply make the first paragraph of the description become the summary, which the user can modify later (patch-947)
[05:15] <dilys> Merge to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>move the product/package icons in the bug assignment listing to the left side of the table cell, for improved presentability (patch-948)
[06:26] <dilys> Merge to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>teach pqm to use baz (patch-15)
[06:33] <dilys> Merge to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>finish teaching pqm to use baz (patch-16)
[06:36] <dilys> Merge to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Merge tree-version fixes. (patch-30)
[06:37] <lifeless> stub try doing a graph merge, it /may/ do the right thing. It may not also ... dunno.
[07:44] <dilys> Merge to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Create a base class for person/team view. (patch-949)
[08:12] <dilys> Merge to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Soyuz template changes and little fixes. (patch-950)
[08:38] <dilys> New Malone bug #120: "More UseCases for Rosetta", submitted by Jordi Mallach
[08:38] <dilys> https://dogfood.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/120
[09:10] <dilys> Merge to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Some cleanup on launchpad.browser.sourcesource (patch-951)


[06:11] <Babloyi> does anyone have suggestions for a program I can use to store my medical records on the computer? I'm not even sure what to search for...the stuff I'm getting is all doctor directed stuff involving multiple patients or diagnostics or billing and stuff
[06:12] <Iolo> No idea honestly, but it might help to know what format the records are in.
[06:13] <Babloyi> how would I find that out without downloading several of these programs and seeing if there's a standard? :D
[06:13] <diogenes_> Babloyi, libreoffice base
[06:14] <diogenes_> it's like ms office access
[06:14] <Babloyi> :D
[06:14] <Babloyi> yeah, I know it
[06:14] <Babloyi> it might even have a medical records template
[06:14] <Babloyi> ...but again probably aimed at doctors
[06:14] <Unit193> I'd say take a look at the Debian Med team's packages, but it's a long list<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:14] <Iolo> Babloyi, I was referring more to what format your doctor is providing the records in, but it doesn't matter now that you an answer
[06:14] <Babloyi> oh, I don't have a fixed doctor
[06:14] <Babloyi> lots of travelling
[06:14] <Babloyi> hence the need for this
[06:15] <Babloyi> rather than lugging around loads of records
[06:15] <Babloyi> I have an appointment today, and had to get my records couriered :/
[06:15] <Unit193> I personally would recommend using some method to keep them private, but that's up to you.
[06:15] <Babloyi> yes, that was definitely a concern
[06:15] <Babloyi> I don't need this to be online or anything
[06:16] <Babloyi> huh
[06:17] <Babloyi> Base doesn't have templates?
[06:18] <Babloyi> I'm actually not even sure how a patient-directed medical records system would work...several different sorts of tests with different outputs, doctor visits with prescriptions and instructions...medicines I'm taking...
[06:18]  * Babloyi goes through Unit193's list
[06:19] <Unit193> Babloyi: Not saying it's a good list, but `apt-cache search medical records` did bring up a couple of their packages.
[06:19] <Babloyi> pity there are no descriptions
[08:05] <_thelion_> Hi, with the upgrade to xubuntu 18.10 there's no transparency in conky. Here is my conkyrc: https://pastebin.com/UgtGKQjJ
[08:07] <bazhang> sounds like your conky needs a twiddle or two
[08:07] <bazhang> there's a great conky for beginners guide at ubuntuforums, they may address any changes
[08:11] <Unit193> own_window_argb_visual yes / own_window_argb_value 0  I have these, I remember a long time ago adding something to get transparency.  You'll also want to ensure that compositing is enabled.
[08:20] <_thelion_> Unit193: Hm, I've enabled compositing and added your lines to my conkyrc --> but there's no transparency.
[08:21] <Unit193> _thelion_: There's a bunch of junk in mine, it's pretty old, but http://paste.openstack.org/show/8GXHPHE6azBtOZigkqjm
[08:21] <Unit193> (All mine does is put Google's calendar on the desktop.)
[08:36] <_thelion_> Yes, now conky is transparent, but in a "normal" window, with buttons. How can get rid of this?
[08:37] <Unit193> I have no such buttons. 0_o
[16:35] <fmeetze> Is a Snappy discussion off topic?
[16:39] <fmeetze> I realize Snappy is a Cannonical thing, but considering Xubuntu is about conserving processing power for speed, I'm surpised it's a default here.
[16:42] <brainwash> fmeetze: where did you read that?
[16:43] <brainwash> and what do you mean it's the default?
[16:43] <fmeetze> Snappy apps appear in the software store by default.
[16:44] <fmeetze> Although Snappy isn't installed by default.
[16:44] <brainwash> if snap apps are available, they will be displayed
[16:44] <brainwash> no?
[16:45] <fmeetze> It appears that the snap apps update each time the program loads, correct?
[16:46] <brainwash> I doubt that
[16:46] <fmeetze> Just trying to understand why it takes much longer to load a snappy app, than flatpak or even an AppImage.
[16:47] <brainwash> much? do you have numbers?
[16:47] <brainwash> well, at this point it would be best to ask in snap channel
[16:49] <fmeetze> it adds 2 to 4 seconds to each loadtime if I'm connected to an Internet connection.
[16:50] <fmeetze> does the ubuntu-core-launcher contain other functionality besides adding Snappy to the store?
[16:50] <brainwash> !info ubuntu-core-launcher
[16:51] <fmeetze> my point exactly
[16:51] <brainwash> right
[16:51] <brainwash> not needed anymore
[16:51] <brainwash> >Transitional package
[16:52] <fmeetze> I'm just suggesting that ubuntu-core-launcher doesn't need to be installed on Xubuntu by default.
[16:52] <fmeetze> or squashfs-tools for that matter.
[16:54] <brainwash> ubuntu-core-launcher is not present on the 18.04.1 iso
[16:54] <brainwash> !info squashfs-tools
[16:55] <fmeetze> !xubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:55] <fmeetze> !info xubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:57] <fmeetze> Thanks brainwash, that clears things up -- it must have been pulled in from one of the other xubuntu addon packages.
[16:57] <brainwash> ok
[16:57] <brainwash> why does squashfs-tools bother you?
[16:58] <fmeetze> I haven't tested to see if it was that or the Snappy update prior to program load that was slowing down launching of applications.  I dumped them both - not even worried about it now.
[17:00] <brainwash> personally, I don't use or test snap apps, but I'd think that it is expected that those apps need few seconds to start up
[17:00] <brainwash> especially applications like firefox or libreoffice
[17:01] <brainwash> or things based on a huge web framework
[17:01] <fmeetze> Gimp is a good example.  They encourage Flatpak.  The loadtime between a Flatpak install of Gimp and Snappy is pretty telling.
[17:03] <brainwash> I can only suggest that you open a bug report against snapd, so that the snap devs can look into this
[17:03] <fmeetze> true
[17:47] <ghumman> while upgrading receive this "Upgrades from 18.04 on the i386 architecture are not supported at this time" any solution ?
[18:07] <mknepper> hi everyone
[18:08] <mknepper> does mousepad not accept custom menu accelerators anymore? I can't get it to work, even when I edit ~/.config/Mousepad/accels.scm
[22:27] <adfg> Would somebody help me with installing a VPN? The customer service for CyberGhost doesn't seem to know anything about Linux.
[22:28] <brainwash> adfg: you probably should ask in #ubuntu
[22:28] <adfg> Okay.