[00:03] <kklimonda> hmm.. how can I disable screen dimming on desktop changing? I can't find  it in ccsm anywhere
[00:03] <kklimonda> well, it's really a "desktop dimming", the launcher stays the same
[00:06] <coz_> kklimonda,  is it possible to screenshot that?
[00:07] <kklimonda> coz_: let me try
[00:09] <kklimonda> coz_: something like that: http://people.ubuntu.com/~kklimonda/dimmed.png
[00:09] <coz_> kklimonda,   oooo
[00:10] <coz_> kklimonda,  let me check in Unity's  ccsm hold on
[00:11] <coz_> kklimonda,   open  ccsm   General options.. Display settings tab
[00:11] <coz_> kklimonda,   no
[00:11] <coz_> damn I just had it hold on
[00:12] <coz_> ah  rather click the Opengl plugin
[00:12] <coz_> and disable  Lighting
[00:12] <coz_> see if that does it
[00:12] <kklimonda> ah, thanks
[00:12] <coz_> work?
[00:12] <kklimonda> yes
[00:12] <coz_> cool
[00:13] <AbsintheSyringe> what is going to be unity icon theme?
[00:13] <AbsintheSyringe> it looks a lot like faenza
[00:14] <coz_> AbsintheSyringe,  good question...  I have the theme for ccsm including the Unity plugin icon.... faenza?
[00:14] <coz_> AbsintheSyringe,   but  apparenlty the unity icon in ccsm right now ...not mine... was shuttleworths  and he asked for another
[00:14] <AbsintheSyringe> it looks like faenza, and if it is faenza, good choice if you ask me :)
[00:14] <coz_> AbsintheSyringe,  you mean the entire theme?
[00:14] <AbsintheSyringe> no idea ... that's why I'm asking
[00:15] <AbsintheSyringe> I mean icon theme, but am curious about rest of it as well
[00:15] <RAOF> It's the same icon theme as Maverick.
[00:15] <coz_> AbsintheSyringe,   actually I used Tango as the base for it ... creating the icon theme on tango colours and shapes
[00:16] <AbsintheSyringe> good, cuz I just made light-themes work on Debian, and intend to make unity work on debian, so for me it wouldn't be good if it's all different :)
[00:16] <coz_> It shouldnt be taking on the system icon theme
[00:16] <AbsintheSyringe> however I am using faenza for default with light-themes for debian
[00:16] <AbsintheSyringe> coz_, they look awesome :)
[00:16] <coz_> AbsintheSyringe,  I can look into that.. I made several themes    tango like.... elementary like and oxygen
[00:16] <AbsintheSyringe> coz_, will you make package out of it?
[00:17] <coz_> AbsintheSyringe,  but it was tango that was chosen since the original icon theme   was loosely based on tango
[00:17] <AbsintheSyringe> right
[00:17] <coz_> AbsintheSyringe,   I have a package for that theme  as it stands...but I have to make several changes and if sam inlcudes  more plugins then I have to make icons for them as well
[00:18] <coz_> AbsintheSyringe,   so hopefully the entire final theme will be there before it is release...fingers crossed:)
[00:18] <AbsintheSyringe> coz_, :)
[00:18] <AbsintheSyringe> you do your think and hope for the best :)
[00:18] <coz_> thanks
[00:18] <coz_> the outstanding issue is the Unity plugin icon as it stands right now
[00:18] <coz_> I dont like it ...it is not even related to the current theme
[00:19] <coz_> so that has to be changed
[00:20] <coz_> AbsintheSyringe,   ah faenza  .. yeah those are somewhat cool
[00:20] <coz_> AbsintheSyringe,   I am not sure they would well in ccsm only because it would take a few weeks to create them :)
[00:21] <coz_> AbsintheSyringe,  I can work on a separate set based on faenza at some point
[00:21] <AbsintheSyringe> coz_, dunno, they are my favorite icons for quite some time now
[00:22] <coz_> AbsintheSyringe,  well let me find the most current  revision of them and take a look
[00:22] <AbsintheSyringe> 0.8
[00:22] <coz_> AbsintheSyringe,  ok I see that on gnome-look
[00:23] <AbsintheSyringe> coz_, http://tiheum.deviantart.com/art/Faenza-Icons-173323228
[00:23] <AbsintheSyringe> I can give you my build of 0.8 for debian, about to push it in right now
[00:23] <coz_> AbsintheSyringe,  the ones on deviant art are giving corrupted zip
[00:24] <AbsintheSyringe> o_O
[00:24] <coz_> twice
[00:24] <coz_> mm i see ithas a dark faenza as well
[00:25] <AbsintheSyringe> yep
[00:25] <AbsintheSyringe> it does
[00:25] <AbsintheSyringe> both are in there
[00:25] <AbsintheSyringe> well get them wherever you want, just know that 0.8 is the latest one
[00:27] <coz_> ok thanks
[00:27] <AbsintheSyringe> np
[00:28] <coz_> ok forrth attemtp at download  failed  .. has to be on their end
[01:09] <coz_> AbsintheSyringe,   I think I got the conversation a bit twisted
[01:09] <coz_> AbsintheSyringe,    I see what you are talking about... I was  automatically assumed  ccsm when  you said "unity"
[01:09] <coz_> AbsintheSyringe,   I do the ccsm icons not the icons in  the launcher
[01:10] <coz_> with that I have to break... bit embarrassed with my bad reading skills
[01:10] <coz_> so pardon my "doof" ness  on that topic
[06:28] <kvalo> morning
[07:54] <MacSlow> hey folks!
[07:55] <kvalo> hi MacSlow
[07:55] <MacSlow> hey kvalo
[08:15] <didrocks> good morning
[08:16] <MacSlow> didrocks, salut here too :)
[08:16] <didrocks> hey MacSlow too ;)
[08:54] <Kaleo> MacSlow: salut
[08:54] <Kaleo> :)
[08:56] <MacSlow> salut Kaleo, ca va?
[09:05] <MacSlow> hey njpatel
[09:10] <njpatel> hey hey MacSlow
[09:55] <dbarth> seb128: hi, about https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/705801 i can't reproduce that, is it still the case for you?
[09:56] <seb128> urg, wrong click
[09:56] <didrocks> dbarth: seb128: you can reproduce it if you kill bamf-daemon for instance
[09:57] <seb128> didrocks, will not be respwaned?
[09:57] <seb128> still happening, I did restart the session like 5 times since and it happens every time
[09:57] <didrocks> seb128: it will respawn, but you'll get duplicated entry
[09:57] <seb128> it's only happening with the run a command dialog though
[09:57] <dbarth> so it's more a question of getting duplicates once bamf restarts and can't figure out who's who
[09:57] <seb128> no
[09:57] <didrocks> ok, this one is different, I stopped on the title "duplicated entry"
[09:58] <seb128> those a fresh session with no crash
[09:58] <didrocks> seb128: would you mean if I change the title slightely?
[09:58] <didrocks> there is another similar bug, but with real "duplicate" when bamf is crashing
[09:59] <seb128> didrocks, you can retitles things as you want
[09:59] <seb128> ;-)
[10:00] <didrocks> seb128: thanks :-)
[10:00] <seb128> the cucrent title is not great but I was not sure in what other cases it was happening and I didn't want to set the title to be specific to "run a command"
[10:00] <kamstrup> Kaleo: so hows it looking with unity-2d on top of the new place daemons?
[10:01] <didrocks> seb128: I set it specifically for now with some additional info. I can have a look this week if nobody starts on that (adding it to my "opened tabs" WI ;))
[10:01] <seb128> didrocks, ok, it might be a very specific corner case
[10:02] <didrocks> seb128: better to ensure if we have some more worrying things underneath… what's weird is that I have gnome-panel there and it doesn't show in the launcher
[10:02] <seb128> i.e gnome-panel is filtered out of the processes to list since that's a dock but the dialog to run the command is not
[10:02] <seb128> didrocks, right, but if you do alt-f2 it still doesn't?
[10:02] <seb128> it used to be get one icon until last week updates now it get 2 of those
[10:02] <didrocks> seb128: oh right, alt-f2 shows 2 of them. you have nothing without it
[10:02] <didrocks> waow :)
[10:02] <seb128> ok, you just confirmed the bug ;-)
[10:03] <didrocks> right ;)
[10:11] <Kaleo> kamstrup: pretty good, not working quite yet, but very soon
[10:13] <kamstrup> Kaleo: this is just *really* cool: http://paste.ubuntu.com/557576/
[10:13] <kamstrup> nice work man
[10:13] <kamstrup> Kaleo: or I mean, s/display_name/column_1/ until we get to the named columns thing :-)
[10:15] <kamstrup> Is it me or does the latest unity swallow mouse clicks a lot?
[10:15] <seb128> kamstrup, which clicks?
[10:16] <kamstrup> seb128: mouse clicks in general... in FF, devhelp, gnome-terminal, anywhere ...
[10:16] <seb128> kamstrup, the dash blocks events on the corner until you click on it
[10:16] <kamstrup> seb128: then clicking like a madman for a bit and it suddenly works
[10:16] <seb128> otherwise not clicking issue that I know about
[10:16] <kamstrup> seb128: not using the dash
[10:17] <seb128> bug #705672
[10:17] <seb128> kamstrup, ^
[10:17] <kamstrup> seb128: ah... now I get it :-) thanks!
[10:17] <seb128> kamstrup, well that's the issue, until you click on it it's eating events on this rectangle
[10:17] <seb128> kamstrup, yw
[10:18] <Kaleo> kamstrup: yep, it's cool :=)
[10:18] <Kaleo> kamstrup: thanks
[10:29] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: this is the bug i was talking about saturday night: 704150
[10:29] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: shouldn't the same thing happen with workspaces too ? (when there's only one)
[10:32] <Kaleo> nerochiaro: agreed
[10:33] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: should the workspace switcher button in launcher be grayed out or hidden when there's only 1 workspace ?
[10:36] <dbarth> Kaleo: already up or up very late? anyway, could you comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/701569
[10:36] <dbarth> i'd like to finish triaging this bug and know where we stand
[10:38] <MacSlow> hm... since the last update the first tab in chromium isn't never reacting to mouse-clicks (on the tab itself) inside the web-page mouse-clicks do work though... anyone else seen this?
[10:40] <didrocks> MacSlow: not related to the "dead zone" square? (the one you fix by clicking in the dash and go out of it then)
[10:45] <ogra> Kaleo, so looking at the -default-settings merge, wouldnt you think having a completely unified unity-2d package would make sense (merge panel, launcher, spread and places into the same single binary package too)
[10:45] <ogra> i think thats what unity does
[10:47] <Kaleo> ogra: no, we do not want that
[10:47] <Kaleo> ogra: for a few reasons
[10:47] <Kaleo> ogra: one is flexibility
[10:48] <Kaleo> ogra: another one is stability
[10:48] <ogra> ok
[10:48] <Kaleo> ogra: unity does it because of OpenGL related issues
[10:48] <ogra> well, i'm happy if i dont have to do that (lots less transition work) just wanted to ask
[10:49] <Kaleo> ogra: thanks for asking
[10:58] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: in case you missed it: "11:33 <nerochiaro> Kaleo: should the workspace switcher button in launcher be grayed out or hidden when there's only 1 workspace ?"
[11:03] <Kaleo> nerochiaro: I missed it
[11:03] <Kaleo> dbarth: already up actually :)
[11:03] <Kaleo> dbarth: let me see
[11:04] <Kaleo> dbarth: what sort of comment would you like? (note I already replied to kamstrup's question)
[11:05] <Kaleo> nerochiaro: so the answer is that it probably should not be there but as I said during our talks, don't bother with it
[11:05] <Kaleo> nerochiaro: (unless it's quick to do)
[11:05] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: ok
[11:05] <Kaleo> nerochiaro: nonetheless add it to the list at the bottom
[11:05] <Kaleo> thanks
[11:09] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: document updated
[11:10] <Kaleo> nerochiaro: chees
[11:10] <Kaleo> cheers*
[11:16] <dbarth> Kaleo: ah ok, that should be enough then
[11:17] <Kaleo> ok
[15:34] <anderson> hi
[15:36] <anderson> anyone?
[15:38] <anderson> ?
[15:41] <evfool> hi
[15:42] <anderson> hey
[15:42] <anderson> sry for the noob question
[15:42] <anderson> but
[15:42] <anderson> were do i go to report a unity bug?
[15:48] <evfool> are you running unity?
[15:48] <anderson> sry to bother again, but
[15:48] <anderson>  were do i go to report a unity bug?
[15:48] <evfool> are you running unity?
[15:49] <anderson> in gnome now
[15:49] <anderson> gut i was
[15:49] <anderson> have it installed
[15:49] <evfool> start a Terminal and type ubuntu-bug unity, press Enter, a browser will open for you, where you'll be asked to enter the short summary and the description of the bug
[15:50] <evfool> this is the best way, because this way version information will be attached to the report
[15:52] <anderson> ok then
[15:52] <anderson> need to go onto unity?
[15:52] <anderson> or can i do it from gnome?
[15:54] <ronoc> anderson, if you mean classic desktop - yes you can
[15:54] <anderson> ok
[15:54] <anderson> doing it now
[15:55] <anderson> really good work with unity
[15:55] <anderson> really easy to use
[15:55] <anderson> :]
[17:00] <and471> Hi, what is the ppa for maverick where I can get dbusmenu-gtk-0.4?
[17:18] <and471> kvalo, hey, I just re-did my branch, so there are no conflicts now, and I also fixed the issues you highlighted. https://code.launchpad.net/~and471/indicator-network/indicator-network/+merge/47276
[17:19] <and471> kvalo, do you know if there is a ppa for dbusmenu-gtk-0.4 for maverick? Otherwise I can't compile indicator-network :/
[17:25] <DanRabbit> ivanka: ping
[17:25] <ivanka> hey DanRabbit good morning
[17:26] <DanRabbit> ivanka: how's it going?
[17:31] <kvalo> hi and471
[17:32] <kvalo> and471: thanks for fixing the branch, I'll take a look at it first thing tomorrow morning
[17:33] <kvalo> and471: about dbusmenu 0.4 for maverick. that's a challenge, I'm not aware of any backports maverick. tedg, any tips?
[17:33] <kvalo> and471: one option is that you create schroot for natty
[17:34] <kvalo> and471: you would just compile indicator-network in natty, but you would be able to run the settings app still in maverick
[17:36] <kvalo> and471: I can send you instructions how to create schroot for natty if you want. but I have to go now, back later.
[17:45] <and471> kvalo, no it is fine, I just modified the versions in configure.ac so I could autogen, and now I can cd into the settings directory and make it in there :)
[17:46] <kvalo> and471: cool :)
[17:46] <kvalo> and471: but I'll send you the schroot notes I have, just in case you need them at some point :)
[17:46] <and471> hehe cool :)
[17:47] <and471> kvalo, do you have any idea when you will start getting the backend for vala in?
[17:47] <and471> kvalo, and how are you doing with vala? :)
[17:47] <kvalo> and471: I have the vala bindings now working, which was a bit of challenge
[17:47] <and471> nice :)
[17:48] <kvalo> and471: so next step is to add the missing functionality to libconnman and then add calls to your code. that should be easy
[17:48] <and471> yay :)
[17:49] <kvalo> unless vala gives me surprises, of course :)
[17:54] <Jacksterson> Hello
[17:54] <Jacksterson> Anybody around?
[18:36] <om26er> applications like tomboy or gtk-recordmydesktop no longer show their indicator menus in quicklist, was this feature removed on purpose or its a bug?
[18:47] <tedg> om26er, A bug, we're transitioning APIs.  BAMF hasn't migrated quite yet.
[18:47] <om26er> right