[00:00] <Ketrel> Listen, if I could do any of this, I would, but I can't so I'm doing it fresh
[00:00] <Ketrel> Lets try this another way
[00:00] <Ketrel> I'm trying to burn a Data DVD for a friend
[00:00] <Ketrel> But when I try to burn it says "please insert a complete or appendable DVD +- R (W) medium"
[00:00] <ryxxed> tell your friend that he shouldn't touch his home directory
[00:00] <ryxxed> but in all seriousness
[00:00] <Ketrel> It's no longer the home directory
[00:00] <ryxxed> i have no clue, have you tried googling
[00:00] <Ketrel> it's just a generic data dvd
[00:01] <Ketrel> I googled it and found nothing usefull
[00:01] <ryxxed> tried different dvds?
[00:01] <Ketrel> don't have different DVDs, but KDE detects it as a blank DVD
[00:01] <Ketrel> when I insert it
[00:01] <Kenzor_> maybe you have one of those old exlusively + or - drives
[00:02] <Kenzor_> and the wrong kind of DVD
[00:02] <Ketrel> I've burned this type of DVD on windows on the same laptop
[00:02] <ryxxed> try a different program?
[00:02] <Ketrel> I'm open to that, got any suggestions?
[00:02] <scunizi> Ketrel, much easier with an external usb HD.. but then you use what you have on the DVD and the software isn't prepaired to split the burn in several DVD's
[00:02] <ryxxed> k3b comes with kde
[00:02] <ryxxed> so, let's say, try brasero
[00:03] <scunizi> that didn't make any sense because I inadvertantly hit the mouse pad on this laptop.. drives me nuts..
[00:03] <Ketrel> scunizi: the directory I wish to burn is under 4.4gb
[00:04] <Ketrel> I asked this in #kde as well and was told that this was a bug in kubuntu which at least when he last looked was never fixed
[00:04] <scunizi> Ketrel, interesting..  maybe take the data and make an ISO out of it then burn just one file..
[00:04] <Ketrel> is there any way to make the iso in k3b (because I did exclude some files from the DVD)
[00:04] <scunizi> Ketrel, sure..
[00:05] <Ketrel> and how?
[00:06] <scunizi> I'll look hang on.
[00:06] <Ketrel> Brasero segfaults XD
[00:06] <ryxxed> awesome
[00:06] <Ketrel> only when a DVD is in
[00:06] <Ketrel> if it's empty it's fine
[00:07] <crimsaq> I have lost my entire kpanel, its completely blank... anyone know how I can restore it back to normal?
[00:07] <crimsaq> my clock, taskbar apps, EVERYTHING is gone :|
[00:07] <ryxxed> right click > add widgets?
[00:07] <crimsaq> I have to manually add it all back?
[00:07] <ryxxed> it's not that hard
[00:08] <ryxxed> in fact, it's easier
[00:08] <Kenzor_> i've had that happen once or twice too, it's a pain
[00:08] <ryxxed> ctrl + l = ftw
[00:08] <crimsaq> .
[00:09] <Ketrel> ok, option two, time to setup samba
[00:09] <lmg> hi there is there anybody knows how to use joining yahoo chat using kopete?
[00:10] <crimsaq> omg this is so retarded.
[00:10] <crimsaq> none of the widgets are fitting right
[00:10] <crimsaq> I added a clock and it spanned the entire panel
[00:10] <crimsaq> ...
[00:11] <crimsaq> covering up my kmenu.
[00:11] <ryxxed> right click on the panel
[00:11] <ryxxed> edit panel
[00:11] <scunizi> Ketrel, this might help some.. two things are mentioned.. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/create-.iso-image-wk3b-287326/
[00:12] <Ketrel> scunizi doesn't matter any more, I get the same problem in K3b when trying to burn an image, and Brasero segfaults when I put a DVD in
[00:12] <crimsaq> I need a break from this, its pissing me off.
[00:12] <Ketrel> I'm gonna try with samba
[00:12] <vbgunz> is there a way to maximize a window *but* without overlapping another? sort of maximize into empty space?
[00:12] <ryxxed> resizing ext3
[00:12] <ryxxed> how safe is it?
[00:12] <scunizi> Ketrel, that's weird.. I use k3b in gnome with dvd's and it works fine.
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[00:14] <vbgunz> do I need the cddb configuration tool on Intrepid? is this a left over from KDE 3.5?
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> !info cddb
[00:15] <brad_> so does anyone have any answer about how to make it stop saying "link" instead of showing me the link in Kopete? This happened to other people right?
[00:15] <vbgunz> cool
[00:16] <vbgunz> actually I don't even have xmcd installed... but I do see the cddb configuration tool in settings
[00:16] <vbgunz> I'll peep into it
[00:18] <Ketrel> scunizi as I said, it's supposed to be a bug from what I heard
[00:18] <vbgunz> this is what the command says: kcmshell libkcddb ... I am thinking though if it is a lib, should I really remove it... hmm, in a bind
[00:18] <Ketrel> a but in 8.04 (BTW)
[00:20] <ryxxed> is there a way to display RSS feeds on desktop?
[00:20] <ryxxed> using akregator
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> brad_: when does it say link?
[00:22] <fleetcommand> i think akregator can't display rss feeds on desktop
[00:22] <marek_> hi anybody with success with Ata-over-Ethernet?
[00:23] <d_mitry> ryxxed: how long do you think the upgrade's gonna take?
[00:23] <d_mitry> 256 mb of ram and 1.2 ghz processor.
[00:23] <ryxxed> not as much as what i'm dong
[00:23] <ryxxed> wait, wait
[00:23] <ryxxed> i take that back
[00:23] <d_mitry> haha
[00:23] <brad_> actionparsnip: when someone sends a link, instead of seeing the actual text of the link, it says the word link (so I cant see what website it is) then when I click on it it opens as a cached page
[00:23] <ryxxed> my 8 year old pc is better than that
[00:23] <brad_> and it did this ever since upgrading and there is no setting I can find about it
[00:23] <ryxxed> but still your internet is 10 times faster
[00:23] <d_mitry> ...whoa, i just saw "Done."
[00:24] <d_mitry> oh, that was for just one thing.
[00:24] <ryxxed> i want to punch you over the internet
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> ryxxed: if it does the job then its fine
[00:24] <d_mitry> heh
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> brad_: then ask the person to send it as normal text
[00:24] <ryxxed> you're gonna aptitude my fist through the universe repo
[00:24] <marek_> i;m typing "modprobe aoe", but with  tail /var/log/syslog i cant see any action, what might be the cause?
[00:24] <ryxxed> actionparsnip : since you're here, anyway i can dock my rss feed on the desktop?
[00:25] <brad_> no thats what they do, they copy and paste the link
[00:25] <brad_> into the chat window, from the web browser
[00:25] <brad_> and I see the word "link"
[00:25] <brad_> every time
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> ryxxed: no idea man
[00:25] <ryxxed> well, i guess you gotta experiment
[00:25] <brad_> ever since getting whatever the major kopete upgrade was
[00:26] <scunizi> brad_, switch to irssi :).. you'll never have that issue again.
[00:27] <ryxxed> irssi supports msn?
[00:27] <brad_> did this not happen to anyone else?
[00:27] <brad_> does anyone here use the new kopete?
[00:27] <d_mitry> through bitlbee, it does.
[00:27] <ryxxed> even pidgin's better than kopete
[00:28] <brad_> yeah I find I never get help here so I'm going to go this is just going to continue to drive me insane indefinitely
[00:28] <d_mitry> pidgin 2.5.2 is great. all it needs is voice clip and webcam support now.
[00:28] <brad_> I mean these answers aren't even comments on this problem
[00:28] <brad_> I say I try to do something which should work, and wont work, and am told "well don't do that"
[00:28] <d_mitry> brad_: i'd love to help, but i don't use kopete.
[00:30] <scunizi> brad_, have you considered xchat.. it's better than kopete and pidgin
[00:31] <illissius> hi
[00:31] <illissius> anyone here have kdm autologin working w/ intrepid?
[00:31] <scunizi> why would you do that and ruin your security?
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> illissius: i do
[00:31] <Dragnslcr> brad_- I've seen that or heard of anyone else having that problem. what version of Kopete?
[00:32] <illissius> scunizi: because i'm a masochist who is incapable of making rational decisions.
[00:32] <brad_> I'm on 4.1.3 now, it was as soon as I upgraded to the version where the icon changed
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> scunizi: if he lives alone and no one ever sees his system, its pretty ok
[00:32] <scunizi> illissius, Ah! In that case please proceed!
[00:32] <illissius> ActionParsnip: could you send me the contents of your /etc/pam.d/kdm-np in a query please?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> illissius: in a query?
[00:32] <Dragnslcr> brad_- Help -> About Kopete
[00:33] <vbgunz> does anybody know how to get konqueror to open an iso seamlessly? I mean just browsing to one, clicking on it, it simply mounts and opens?
[00:33] <illissius> ActionParsnip: hm. dunno how it is in pidgin :/
[00:33] <illissius> in konversation you would right click my name and select 'open query'
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> illissius: http://pastebin.com/f57cb5878
[00:33] <illissius> pidgin might call it a private chat or something...
[00:34] <illissius> ActionParsnip: that works too :) thanks a bunch
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> illissius: its a pastebin
[00:34] <illissius> i see that
[00:35] <illissius> hmm
[00:35] <illissius> so that's not my problem then :(
[00:35] <illissius> (same file here)
[00:35] <illissius> stupid pam
[00:36] <illissius> should it be making a difference whether I'm using kubuntu's KDE packages or KDE from SVN (which I am)?
[00:37] <scunizi> Why are the help files for kmail not installed? can't find them in the repos either.
[00:39] <illissius> alternately, if anyone knows how to make it give me something more detailed about why it fails than just "authentication failed", that would also be very helpful
[00:40] <ryxxed> um
[00:40] <ryxxed> sudo passwd user ?
[00:40] <scunizi> illissius, have you looked at dmesg?
[00:40] <ryxxed> tried that?
[00:40] <illissius> ryxxed: yeah I can login normally just fine, it's just setting up autologin which doesn't work
[00:40] <ryxxed> what does it say?
[00:41] <ryxxed> you can't autologin with a blank password
[00:41] <ryxxed> i think
[00:41] <illissius> ryxxed: well kdm starts up, pops up a dialog saying "authentication failed", I close it, and then I type in my password and login normally
[00:41] <illissius> (i.e. my password isn't blank)
[00:41] <ryxxed> misstyped it?
[00:41] <scunizi> illissius, have you seen this ? http://linux.about.com/od/kubuntu_doc/a/kubudg35t03.htm
[00:42] <illissius> scunizi: i have, kernel log doesn't say much about this... nor does anything in /var/log, far as i can tell
[00:42] <SkittleLinux18> hey everybody, i got a simple question
[00:42] <scunizi> no such thing
[00:42] <scunizi> but go ahead :)
[00:42] <SkittleLinux18> scunizi:  haha... ok
[00:43] <mhall> hey i'm pretty baffled by how things are working after i distupgraded hardy to intrepid
[00:43] <mhall> so i am in KDE 4, it works, but a lot of the defaults are really annoying
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> mhall: in what way?
[00:43] <mhall> no problem, right, try to run kcontrol
[00:43] <mhall> but it got replaced with systemsettings
[00:43] <mhall> so i installed that with aptitude (hey i used debian since 1997)
[00:43] <illissius> ryxxed: ...misstyped what? (again, logging in normally with my password works, it's autologin which doesn't)
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> you could symlink it if you want :)
[00:44] <mhall> but the content pane is blank
[00:44] <mhall> like, i can't tweak any settings of anything
[00:44] <SkittleLinux18> if my kubuntu intrepid has a screen resolution of 1280x1024. then i restart my computer and come back to a screen resolution of 1024x768, with no option in teh GUI's to set it back, how can i get it back to 1280x1024?
[00:44] <mhall> all it's got is overview and search
[00:44] <ryxxed> oh
[00:44] <mhall> the rest is blank
[00:44] <ryxxed> rght
[00:44] <mhall> i can't figure out wtf i'm supposed to do now, lol
[00:44] <mhall> i ran out of ideas
[00:44] <illissius> mhall: use systemsettings? :)
[00:45] <mhall> illissius: i tried
[00:45] <mhall> illissius: but the content pane is blank
[00:45] <mhall> illissius: nothing to click on, type into, etc
[00:45] <mhall> illissius: only overview and search
[00:45] <illissius> oh. I thought you meant you didn't like it and installed kcontrol instead, which didn't work
[00:45] <mhall> illissius: like i think i must have some pkgs missing from the dist upgrade
[00:45] <illissius> seems probable
[00:45] <keres> can someone help me with this problem: http://pastebin.com/d7654dbd6
[00:45] <mhall> illissius: nope, i would be willing to suffer through any interface no matter how bad
[00:45] <illissius> aptitude install kubuntu-desktop do anything?
[00:46] <mhall> illissius: but i have literally *no* interface to suffer thru ;)
[00:46] <mhall> illissius: let me try it in another konsole tab... one sec
[00:46] <mhall> illissius: ok it's getting about 14mb of goodies
[00:46] <mhall> illissius: then after this log myself out and bounce my kdm?
[00:47] <sgroi135> Can someone please give me a hand.  I just istalled Nepenthes using apt-get. That cause it to automatically start.  I would like to be able to start from the console so that i can have it running on the screen.  Is tehre a way to open so i can watch.  Im not sure that if i restart if it will start on reboot
[00:47] <scunizi> mhall, in a terminal try sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade and see if it pulls in things that were missed.
[00:47] <illissius> mhall: something like that
[00:47] <mhall> scunizi: will do once illissius's kubuntu-desktop finishes
[00:47] <vbgunz> is there a way to *list* every single application that comes on the Intrepid CD?
[00:47] <illissius> maybe just running kbuildsycoca4 followed by systemsettings will pick it up w/o having to relogin
[00:48] <vbgunz> *only* the applications that actually install?
[00:48] <mhall> scunizi: no dice
[00:48] <mhall> let me logout and login
[00:49] <illissius> SkittleLinux18: yeah, that's not a n easy question :). dunno how to solve it w/ xorg autoconfiguring itself these days either...
[00:49]  * illissius checks if there's a #pam...
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> vbgunz: find /media/cdrom0 -name *.deb 2>/dev/null
[00:50] <illissius> population: 2 :/
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> vbgunz: oic, er not sure
[00:50] <ryxxed> skittlelinux18 : have you tried configuring your xorg?
[00:52] <mhall> illissius: good call man
[00:52] <mhall> illissius: that totally fixed it up
[00:53] <mhall> are there any other metapackages i should manually reinstall just to make sure nothing else is wonky on here
[00:53] <illissius> awesome
[00:53] <mhall> or am i cool now
[00:53] <illissius> think that's it
[00:53] <mhall> illissius: i'll owe you a beer next time you end up in norcal
[00:53] <illissius> ubuntu-desktop if you also have/need gnome
[00:53] <mhall> lol gnome is so... 1995
[00:54] <mhall> ;-) </troll>
[00:54] <ryxxed> worst troll ever
[00:54] <illissius> mhall: lol. i might take you up on it if I ever cross the atlantic ;)
[00:54] <mhall> this laptop does a surpisingly good job of kde4
[00:54] <SkittleLinux18> ryxxed: no i haven't. which text file can i manually edit to make the resolution 1280x1024??
[00:54] <mhall> i have an hp mobile workstation 8510w
[00:54] <scunizi> illissius, he'll probably buy you a coors light..
[00:54] <mhall> internal quadro board
[00:54] <scunizi> :)
[00:55] <ryxxed> skittlelinux18 : /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:55] <mhall> scunizi: nah i'll get the man an alaska amber
[00:55] <ryxxed> for manual edition
[00:55] <SkittleLinux18> thanks
[00:55] <scunizi> that's much better..
[00:55] <mhall> ryxxed: you didn't get ryxxrolled by that little troll, eh? ;)
[00:55] <SkittleLinux18> ryxxed: i'll report back in a few to let you know how i made out
[00:55] <mhall> ryxxed: i just couldn't resist making it though :)
[00:56] <mhall> scunizi: no point to buying somebody a CL if they do you a legit favor on something
[00:56] <ryxxed> k, skittle
[00:57] <ryxxed> mhall : uh, yeah, a real man trolls with bug guns
[00:57] <mhall> ryxxed: i wasn't trying to say it was a good one
[00:57] <scunizi> mhall, how true.. I was drinking a Karl Strauss xmas dark last night.. yummy
[00:57] <mhall> ryxxed: after all it's a bit unkind to GNAA a channel that gives good assistance ;)
[00:57] <ryxxed> true
[00:57] <SkittleLinux18> ryxxed: does this channel have a paste thingy where i can paste info to and then send you the link??
[00:57] <mhall> scunizi: haven't had that yet
[00:57] <ryxxed> paste.ubuntu.com
[00:58] <SkittleLinux18> ryxxed: because i am not seeing anything in my file regarding screen resolution
[00:58] <mhall> scunizi: i'll have to find some at this local alcohol shop
[00:58] <try4ce> does any one know how to get X-Fi drivers working??
[00:58] <d_mitry> alcohol shop? there's a term i've never heard before. :P
[00:58] <mhall> scunizi: which has outrageous selection and great pricing... it puts bevmo, riteaid, costco, and sams all to shame
[00:58] <SkittleLinux18> ryxxed: so i want to send you the text that is in the file
[00:58] <try4ce> does any one know how to get X-Fi drivers working??
[00:58] <ryxxed> skittle, that's why you're supposed to edit it
[00:58] <mhall> d_mitry: you homebrew yours? it's got to come from someplace ;)
[00:58] <ryxxed> i think you can use a GUI now
[00:59] <ryxxed> xorgserver -configure
[00:59] <ryxxed> or something like that
[00:59] <ryxxed> let me check it up
[00:59] <SkittleLinux18> ryxxed: ok got it
[00:59] <SkittleLinux18> ryxxed: the code is in the file itself
[00:59] <SkittleLinux18> i'll run it
[00:59] <ryxxed> uh, go for it
[00:59] <mhall> what can you do to get a larger amount of kde4 color schemes and widget styles
[01:00] <d_mitry> well, liquor store is what they say in america, according to music/films that i've heard/seen. i haven't seen any places that sell just alcohol here in england.
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: oddbins
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: im from UK
[01:00] <mhall> d_mitry: yeah i don't use standard vocabulary
[01:00] <illissius> mhall: kde-look.org?
[01:00] <SkittleLinux18> alright, the code didn't do anything
[01:00] <SkittleLinux18> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:00] <SkittleLinux18> that's the one i typed in
[01:00] <scunizi> mhall, karl strauss is a san diego beer..
[01:00] <d_mitry> ActionParsnip: ah, ok.
[01:00] <mhall> illissius: was hoping maybe there was some extras package or something
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: you been here long ?
[01:01] <mhall> scunizi: i'll have my room mate buy me some at christmas time
[01:01] <tacidsky> how do i reset my plasma layout configuration to default?
[01:01] <mhall> scunizi: he's from LJ
[01:01] <try4ce> Hello??
[01:01] <try4ce> does any one know how to get X-Fi drivers working??
[01:01] <illissius> mhall: aptitude search style | grep -i kde maybe?
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> try4ce: very painfully
[01:01] <try4ce> eeeew
[01:01] <d_mitry> ActionParsnip: four and a half years. i'm not one to go around lookin' for booze, though, considering that i've been eighteen for just over a week.
[01:01] <mhall> illissius: yeah good call
[01:01] <scunizi> mhall, he'll know it well.  If you go to the brewery they even sell it in 1 gallon glass jugs.
[01:01] <try4ce> I compiled the kernel and no errors...but no sound
[01:01] <mhall> scunizi: we have a place like that here too, beermann's
[01:02] <ryxxed> skittle : nothing at all?
[01:02] <mhall> scunizi: really fresh beer is impressively good
[01:02] <illissius> mhall: yeah, seems KDE4 ones are prefixed kde4-
[01:02] <illissius> not many of them
[01:02] <mhall> scunizi: there's another one here called sudwerk
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> tacidsky: cd ¬/.kde/share/config
[01:02] <mhall> scunizi: beermann's sells 24 packs for just over 1 dollar a bottle, not too bad
[01:02] <try4ce> Action--> any suggestions?
[01:03] <ryxxed> skittlelinux18 : read this to understand how to manually put in your resolution http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
[01:03] <mhall> scunizi: the gallons can go bad kind of quick if you don't pound them down asap
[01:03] <tacidsky> ActionParsnip , thanks :)
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> tacidsky: you should see plasmarc , killall plasma, rename that file then rerun plasma
[01:03] <scunizi> mhall, good beer is like good scotch... sips and company make the experience much better.
[01:04] <mhall> scunizi: true
[01:04] <tacidsky> ActionParsnip: thank you, i'll try that when my update is done.
[01:04] <mhall> scunizi: i work at HP so it's pretty easy to find people that want to go drink beer
[01:04] <try4ce> Action--> any suggestions?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> try4ce: http://ru.europe.creative.com/support/downloads/download.asp?MainCategory=209&nRegionFK=&nCountryFK=&nLanguageFK=&sOSName=Linux&region=3&Product_Name=X-Fi+Fatal1ty&Product_ID=14000&modelnumber=&driverlang=1033&OS=12&drivertype=0&x=26&y=11
[01:04] <mhall> scunizi: engineers and physicists are pretty good about that, and hp people are very relaxed mostly
[01:05] <try4ce> thx
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> try4ce: you need to compile the driver for it
[01:06] <try4ce> I did that...w/ no errors
[01:06] <try4ce> and then installed it into the kernel...how do I know it's installed??
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> try4ce: thats all i know, i avoid creative. they dont know their ass from their elbow
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> try4ce: lsmod ill show you the drivers installed
[01:06] <d_mitry> so roughly how long would an upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04 take?
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: depends how fast your connection is
[01:07] <sgroi135> How do i remove something from starting on boot? I installed Nepenthes and want to run from console and not in background.  I was able to kill the process and then start manually. but i dont want to do it like that Running 8.10
[01:07] <d_mitry> ActionParsnip: installation only.
[01:07] <Ketrel> Does 8.10 fix the problem in 8.04 where I seem to have a choice between blank TTYs and The ability to logout without restarting x?
[01:07] <illissius> d_mitry: weeks while you tear your hair out because it's not -ing working, I expect
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: shouldnt be more than an hour
[01:08] <d_mitry> illissius: heheh. i hope not.
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: if you have the cds to upgrade from
[01:08] <d_mitry> ActionParsnip: hour and 35 minutes.
[01:08] <illissius> i'd save /etc and /home and install 8.04 fresh, and then copy /home back (and use /etc as reference)
[01:08] <try4ce> thx
[01:08] <try4ce> out
[01:08] <SkittleLinux18> ryxxed: ok, i ran through my file and made the neccesary changes. i'm going to reboot and see if it works. brb
[01:08] <ryxxed> just restart x
[01:08] <ryxxed> never mind
[01:09] <d_mitry> ActionParsnip: no, it's been downloaded. 1:35 to install so far, i mean.
[01:09] <mhall> how can i decommision KDE4's alt-tab stuff
[01:09] <mhall> it's kind of irritating having everything pop out at me
[01:09] <illissius> desktop effects
[01:09] <illissius> dunno what it's under. thankfully there's a searchbar :)
[01:10] <illissius> so no one has any idea how to either make autologin work or at least find out -why- it's not working?
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: it varys from system to system
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> illissius: you could turn it off, then on in systemsettings
[01:11] <d_mitry> ActionParsnip: of course. an hour sounds good to me. it looks like it'll finish soon.
[01:12] <ryxxed> uh
[01:12] <ryxxed> what nvidia driver version should i use again?
[01:12] <ryxxed> 173 for smoothes?
[01:12] <illissius> I'm pretty sure the problem is something to do with PAM
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> illissius: its worth a try
[01:12] <illissius> unfortunately, I'm not sure if there's anyone in the world who understands how PAM works
[01:14] <d_mitry> ActionParsnip: how long do you think an upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 would take?
[01:14] <illissius> ActionParsnip: pretty sure i've tried it at some point...
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: similar, i'd imagine
[01:15] <zyxwvutsr> hi. I have a problem with my display resolution settings. I can't get anything above 640x480 even though my display is 1280x800. This happened after a reboot after I had adjusted my gamma settings, but it all worked great before that.
[01:15] <illissius> d_mitry: wait, so do you have 6.06 or 8.04, and want 8.04 or 8.10? i'm confused
[01:16] <zyxwvutsr> it's a nvidia geforce 6100
[01:16] <d_mitry> illissius: i want to upgrade twice. currently from 6.06 to 8.04.
[01:16] <mhall> alright so there is only one thing missing i can't find that i had in kcontrol
[01:17] <mhall> i am missing the thing which let me select my modifier key theme for KDE from a list
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | zyxwvutsr
[01:17] <mhall> so i could get a sensible default keybinding setup
[01:17] <illissius> oh. I see
[01:18] <zyxwvutsr> ActionParsnip, I've already got the restricted driver installed
[01:19] <ryxxed> well
[01:19] <ryxxed> kde 4.2 beta
[01:19] <ryxxed> here i come
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> zyxwvutsr: i think you need to configure your xorg.conf
[01:19] <d_mitry> woo. restart time.
[01:20] <olskolirc> is there absolutely NO WAY for me to change my clock out of this stupid military time on kde4.1 intrepid?
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> zyxwvutsr: to use the new driver
[01:20] <zyxwvutsr> changing the gamma would cause it to stop using the new driver?
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> zyxwvutsr: not sure
[01:21] <mhall> i have a similar problem to olskolirc, i cannot resize my clock to show all its text
[01:22] <olskolirc> my time says 20:21 instead of 8:21 I want it to say 8:21
[01:25] <JontheEchidna> olskolirc: Sytem Settings -> REgional and Language -> Time
[01:26] <JontheEchidna> you should be able to change the time format from there
[01:26] <mhall> how do i reorder and rezied the widgets?
[01:27] <mhall> i cannot figure this out at all
[01:28] <d_mitry> woohoo.
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: better?
[01:31] <mhall> ok i think this is good enough for now
[01:31] <mhall> i'll have to play with kde4 more later
[01:31] <d_mitry> ActionParsnip: 8.04 is lovely.
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: i like it too :)
[01:32] <ryxxed> !rs
[01:32] <d_mitry> what is rs?
[01:33] <ryxxed> my country's domain
[01:33] <ryxxed> serbia
[01:33] <d_mitry> oh. why not sr instead? :P
[01:33] <ryxxed> !sr
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> !serbia
[01:35] <d_mitry> !ubuntu
[01:35] <d_mitry> hmmmm
[01:36] <d_mitry> !computers
[01:36] <d_mitry> woo
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> !coffee
[01:36] <ryxxed> guess i'm gonna go resize my home
[01:37] <d_mitry> getting another room?
[01:37] <ryxxed> clever
[01:37] <ryxxed> i mean /home/
[01:37] <d_mitry> i figured. ^_^
[01:38] <ryxxed> woo, found my gparted bootable
[01:38] <ryxxed> bbl
[01:39] <zackk> 1
[01:47] <jdfellow> i have what should be a simple question regarding kde 4.2
[01:48] <jdfellow> i would like to add available partitions, dvds , drives to the desktop without going thru Dolphin how ?
[01:48] <jdfellow> it wont let me drag them
[01:49] <mister-tea> use konquerer
[01:49] <jdfellow> can you drag them from konqueror to the desktop?
[01:49] <jdfellow> even unmounted partitions
[01:50] <mister-tea> never tried but you can
[01:51] <jdfellow> I have seen desktops on kde-look.org that have disk icons on the desktop wondered how they did that
[01:51] <mister-tea> don't know if you can do that with unmounted stuff
[01:52] <jdfellow> the old kde allowed it
[01:52] <jdfellow> how bout a widget ?
[01:53] <ryxxed> what are we talking about?
[01:54] <Ketrel> exactly how long should the media check take when?
[01:54] <Ketrel> *when checking the dvd prior to instlaling
[01:57] <jdfellow> thanks got to run
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> hey everyone
[01:58] <ryxxed> ntfs-config for automounting, y/n?
[01:59] <d_mitry> now i should sleep. thanks for the help and take care.
[02:00] <andres1> can anyone help me reset ubuntu
[02:00] <ryxxed> reset?
[02:00] <andres1> not reset but reinstall
[02:01] <ryxxed> uh, format the partition where ubuntu is and just install it there?
[02:01] <ryxxed> is that what you mean?
[02:01] <andres1> i dont know how to
[02:01] <ryxxed> how did you install it in the first place
[02:01] <andres1> it came with it i never toch it i just dealt w it cuz it was a gift
[02:02] <ryxxed> !install
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> ryxxed: ask the person who gave you the gift :P
[02:03] <ryxxed> uh, i'm not the guy reinstalling
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> my bad.. worry :P
[02:04] <andres1> ok i do have the ubuntu cd
[02:04] <Walzmyn> andres1 what exactly are you wanting to accomplish?
[02:04] <andres1> the problem is its a mini i have an external cd drive
[02:05] <rayne> Is Kubuntu better than Ubuntu? Can some one tell me some differences between the two?
[02:05] <ryxxed> the GUI, for start
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> !kubuntu
[02:05] <ryxxed> !gnome | rayne
[02:05] <Walzmyn> Kubuntu uses KDE instead of Gnome, and most likely the folks in here will say, yes, kubuntu is better
[02:05] <ryxxed> !kde | rayne
[02:05] <rayne> !kubuntu
[02:05] <andres1> i tried goin to the bios to set up from there to reinstall but it wont do it
[02:06] <Walzmyn> andres1, the external won't use the mini?
[02:06] <rayne> I have Kubuntu installed, for a gaming aspect, is Kubuntu any good?
[02:06] <ryxxed> linux and gaming
[02:06] <ryxxed> BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[02:06] <andres1> wat im tryin to accomplish heris to  reisntall ubuntu
[02:07] <Walzmyn> rayne, ubuntu and kubuntu use the same base packages, it's (mostly) just the desktop GUI that's different
[02:07] <andres1> i tryed runin the bios n run the cd from there but it doesnt do it
[02:07] <Walzmyn> rayne, so for soemthing like that, no difference
[02:07] <rayne> Oh, are they alright for gaming? I am installing WoW using WIne, should that be a good experience?
[02:08] <Walzmyn> rayne, there are people that do it, but....
[02:08] <rayne> ?
[02:08] <Walzmyn> andres1, you'll need to tell the bios to boot via USB, I think
[02:08] <andres1> anyone?
[02:08] <Walzmyn> andres1, Is there something broken on your machine? It might be easier to just work though the repos instead of starting over.
[02:09] <ryxxed> rayne : maybe, but don't get your hopes up, windows is far superior for gaming
[02:09] <andres1> i did i pluged the external cd drivee i set up the bios but it wont work for some reason
[02:09] <Walzmyn> ryxxed, rayne, well, not in and of itself, its just that they've got better drivers
[02:09] <andres1> now i lost most of my menus
[02:09] <rayne> The reason for the switch is because my system seems to run so much smoother with Linux, so far I like it very much.
[02:09] <ryxxed> and directx
[02:10] <andres1> i only have  places and system
[02:10] <ryxxed> i like it a lot, but i like to game a lot, so i dual boot
[02:10] <rayne> Can I install Direct X using wine?
[02:10] <ryxxed> i think so
[02:10] <andres1> ive tryed doing an update but shows n error
[02:10] <ryxxed> but you're gonna need some windows files
[02:10] <rayne> Like?
[02:10] <ryxxed> i don't know
[02:11] <Walzmyn> !wine | rayne
[02:11] <Ketrel> Off topic question: should I make my room smell like Honeysuckle or cupcakes
[02:11] <andres1> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[02:11] <andres1> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[02:11] <andres1> thats what i get
[02:11] <Walzmyn> rayne, i'm warning ya, that's going to be a frustating road trying to get stuff to work in wine
[02:11] <Walzmyn> Ketrel, cupcakes will make you hungry all the time
[02:12] <rayne> What;s a better emulator than wine?
[02:12] <Ketrel> honeysuckle it is
[02:12] <Walzmyn> rayne, dual booting
[02:13] <andres1> ?
[02:16] <ryxxed> most efficient way to automount ntfs?
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> ryxxed: add it to your /etc/fstab
[02:17] <rayne> Is Linux gaining more popularity?
[02:18] <Ketrel> How long does the "calculating files to skip copying..." step take?
[02:18] <rayne> It took a while on mine.
[02:18] <Walzmyn> rayne, that depends on if you ask that on slashdot or on a MS blog
[02:18] <ryxxed> or how fat you are
[02:19] <Ketrel> I've been at 15% for about 10 minutes now
[02:19] <Ketrel> yet it still moves
[02:20] <Ketrel> should I stop and switch to text based?
[02:23] <Walzmyn> Ketrel, I had the same issues - turned out to be a dirty CD reader
[02:24] <keres> i have 8.10, is it possible to dual boot 8.4, i need 8.4 for compatability with an important application
[02:27] <Walzmyn> keres, hehe, this is linux - you can boot those two and one of ubuntu if you want
[02:28] <keres> sweert
[02:28] <keres> buh, no need to dual boot
[02:28] <keres> what is the major advantage of 8.10 over 8.4?
[02:28] <Walzmyn> keres, yer moving up to KDE4 from KDE 3.5
[02:28] <keres> kde4, is that it?
[02:28] <Ketrel> Walzmyn: of course after I ask, and as I reach for the power button, it works :p
[02:29] <Walzmyn> I'm sure everything else got updated as well, but that's the primary difference
[02:29] <keres> Walzmyn, can you download ubuntu 8.4, then install kde4?
[02:29] <keres> or will it miss dependencies?
[02:29] <Walzmyn> Ketrel, always - my dad would always get a bolt loose with pliars just as I got to him with the wrench
[02:30] <Walzmyn> keres, you can. I'm on 8.4 and running a ton of KDE4 apps but still using KDE3.5
[02:30] <Walzmyn> keres, what is the app you need compatability with?
[02:31] <keres> Walzmyn: netradiant
[02:31] <Walzmyn> keres, if you're on 8.4 and install KDE4 it installs the entire thing in a seperate location beside KDE3.5 - then you can choose which one you want when you log in
[02:31] <keres> Walzmyn: i do that with gnome and kde4 currently
[02:31] <Walzmyn> keres, /nod
[02:59] <Guest49832> hey I'm using Ubuntu and want to add Kubuntu's repositories so that I can install amarok 2.0. Where can I find Kubuntu's repositories?
[03:02] <JontheEchidna> Guest49832: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.0
[03:04] <Guest49832> JontheEchidna: "amarok-kde4" isn't a package in synaptic :(
[03:05] <JontheEchidna> strange... did you update the package list after you added the repository?
[03:06] <Guest49832> JontheEchidna: yeah
[03:06] <JontheEchidna> weird
[03:06] <Guest49832> I hit "reload" anyway
[03:06]  * JontheEchidna wonders what sudo apt-get install sez
[03:06] <Guest49832> hm
[03:06] <Guest49832> so sudo apt-get install amarok-kde4 ?
[03:06] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[03:07] <Guest49832> weird... it's not complaining yet
[03:07] <rayne> I need some help with Nvidia, is anyone up to the challenge?
[03:07] <rayne> :)
[03:08] <rayne> I installed the drivers I found under add programs
[03:08] <rayne> but
[03:08] <JontheEchidna> there's always the "but" :P
[03:08] <rayne> I get a funky message under the settings icon. It says "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server. "
[03:09] <rayne> How do I use it? lol
[03:09] <JontheEchidna> sudo nvidia-xconfig?
[03:09] <rayne> I would be eternally grateful!
[03:09] <rayne> Is that under the terminal?
[03:09] <JontheEchidna> yes
[03:09] <rayne> K trying that now
[03:10] <rayne> Nothing happened.
[03:10] <rayne> Anyone have any other ideas?
[03:11] <Guest49832> JontheEchidna:  huzzah! Amarok 2 is running
[03:11] <JontheEchidna> :)
[03:11] <JontheEchidna> weird why it didn't end up in synaptic... oh well
[03:12] <Guest49832> it didn't preserve my collection :(
[03:12] <Guest49832> lol
[03:12] <Guest49832> now it'll take a while to scan.
[03:12] <JontheEchidna> there should be an import feature
[03:13] <Guest49832> where would I tell it to import from?
[03:13] <Guest49832> oh! hey that was easy.
[03:13] <Guest49832> nvm
[03:17] <Ketrel> I just installed 8.10
[03:17] <Ketrel> What happened to Synaptic?
[03:18] <rayne> I'm still having issues with Nvidia...can anyone explain this to me?
[03:21] <Ketrel> Anyone, I can't seem to find any packages, and the nvidia drivers won't install
[03:22] <tacidsky> Ketrel, that's weird. I just installed 8.10 on thursday, and I find packages
[03:22] <tacidsky> try apt-get updating ?
[03:22] <Ketrel> I get packages listed, but when it trys to download them it just flashes by
[03:23] <tacidsky> hm thats weird.
[03:23] <Ketrel> lemme try updating
[03:23] <Ketrel> perhaps it's not pointing to the right place
[03:24] <Ketrel> now it's staying at 0% rather than flashing by, so that might be it
[03:24] <Ketrel> yeah, that was it
[03:24] <tacidsky> hm.
[03:25] <Ketrel> is synaptic available for this version, I hate adept
[03:25] <ubuntu__> is there a way to downgrade to kde 3.5.x in ibex?
[03:25] <tacidsky> just use command line :)
[03:25] <tacidsky> I don't think 8.10 has support for 3.5.x
[03:26] <ubuntu__> kde 4 isnt ysable for me right now
[03:26] <Ketrel> me, it's staying at 88% <.<
[03:26] <Ketrel> as I click enter it goes to 90
[03:27] <Ketrel> hmmm, things are randomly crashing
[03:27] <Ketrel> this time kmix with sig 6
[03:27] <tacidsky> ubuntu__ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963695
[03:28] <zhs> ?
[03:29] <tacidsky> try that thread ubuntu__
[03:29] <ubuntu__> thanks
[03:33] <ubuntu__> which program can I use to partition my disk in kubuntu?
[03:33] <ubuntu__> I'm used to gparted
[03:33] <tacidsky> ubuntu__ command line or gui?
[03:34] <uman_> Anyone know how to connect to an L2TP over IPSEC vpn in ubuntu 8.10? Thanks
[03:34] <ubuntu__> gui plz
[03:35] <tacidsky> ubuntu__ http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/
[03:39] <tacidsky> ubuntu__ is that what you're looking for?
[03:40] <ubuntu__> tacidsky: cant install since Im on Kubuntu Kde4 live cd
[03:40] <ubuntu__> I want to create an extended partition
[03:41] <tacidsky> try fdisk ?
[03:41] <ubuntu__> lik sda3 -> sda4 ext3, sda 5 ext3, sda 6 swap
[03:41] <ubuntu__> I've never used
[03:42] <tacidsky> try http://www.freeos.com/articles/3935/
[03:42] <tacidsky> this looks better
[03:42] <tacidsky> http://lissot.net/partition/partition-05.html
[03:42] <ubuntu__> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk /dev/sda
[03:42] <ubuntu__> Unable to open /dev/sda
[03:43] <tacidsky> when on a live cd i think /dev/sda is the live cd.. im not sure though
[03:43] <tacidsky> id try   ##linux
[03:43] <ubuntu__> hm
[03:44] <ubuntu__> kubuntu didnt automount my other partitons
[03:44] <ubuntu__> :/
[03:44] <ubuntu__> thats strange
[03:44] <ubuntu__> kubuntu live cd
[03:45] <dumbpoet> Newb here, is there a / command for changing my nick?
[03:45] <tacidsky> type   /nick  nickname
[03:45] <hope4gorilla> Awesome.
[03:46] <hope4gorilla> Thanks
[03:46] <tacidsky> yep
[03:46] <ubuntu__> anyone?
[03:46] <ubuntu__> do I really have to boot in Ubuntu just to partition my disk?
[03:46] <ubuntu__> I mean
[03:46] <ubuntu__> ...
[03:47] <tacidsky> ubuntu__ goto ##linux and ask your questiomn
[03:48] <hope4gorilla> When I try to register my nick, why am I told that an email is not valid, when it clearly is?
[03:50] <hope4gorilla> Anyone here use tellico?
[03:57] <tacidsky> is that an ISP ?
[04:00] <hope4gorilla> Ha, no.. it's a linux program that requires kde.. the only reason that I'm running kubuntu.
[04:00] <hope4gorilla> Though I agree it sounds like an ISP.
[04:01] <tacidsky> oh looks cool
[04:02] <hope4gorilla> I'm trying to figure out how to modify a python script for the program, but the python channel requires some kind of nickname registration that I can't figure out.
[04:03] <hope4gorilla> I plan to use it to manage my MP3 tags.
[04:03] <tacidsky> #python ?
[04:03] <hope4gorilla> Kind of bends it's purpose.. but it has some features that I can't find elsewhere.
[04:03] <tacidsky> doesnt look like it has a registration,
[04:03] <hope4gorilla> "channel" "you need to be identified to join that channel"
[04:04] <tacidsky> oh, maybe because i am already registered. im an idiot.
[04:04] <hope4gorilla> Haha, it's cool.
[04:05] <tacidsky> um you could always use http://10minutemail.com/ to get an email there if yours isnt working
[04:05] <hope4gorilla> Right now I'm hung up on providing the email.. it doesn't like any of the 3 I've used so far.
[04:05] <hope4gorilla> gmail, and 2 different .edu ones..
[04:05] <tacidsky> hm lame
[04:07] <tacidsky> oh man, i just connected to via SSH on my blackberry, so cool
[04:08] <hope4gorilla> crackberry.. mmm..
[04:08] <tacidsky> Yeah I just got the storm
[04:08] <hope4gorilla> Really? is it an "iphone killer"?
[04:08] <tacidsky> never used an iPhone so i couldnt say. but I do enjoy it better than my old Motorola Q
[04:09] <hope4gorilla> I'm not really up on all this stuff, but some of my friends talk about it like it's a sport..
[04:10] <tacidsky> takes a bit getting used to the on screen keyboard though.
[04:10] <tacidsky> did you try the 10minute mail thing ?
[04:10] <hope4gorilla> I was going to try 1 more email that I remembered.. but I've lost the registration command
[04:11] <tacidsky> i think its just /msg nickserv register email password
[04:12] <hope4gorilla> I think I'm just going to go to bed for now.. but thanks for the help, have fun with your gadget :)
[04:12] <tacidsky> have fun. Good luck with tellico
[04:42] <iloveoop> hello everybody~!
[04:43] <iloveoop> i'm new in irc
[04:43] <iloveoop> anybody there?
[04:43] <iloveoop> hmm
[04:44] <tacidsky> hi
[04:45] <tacidsky> object oriented programming?
[04:46] <wangyantao> hello
[04:46] <tacidsky> hi
[04:48] <iloveoop> yes
[04:48] <iloveoop> I'm C++ user in windows os
[04:48] <iloveoop> but i'm using ubuntu now a days
[04:48] <iloveoop> ^^
[04:50] <SmaulUnix> Anyone alive?
[04:50] <tacidsky> I'm Still Alive
[04:50] <iloveoop> me too
[04:51] <SmaulUnix> sweet, I am somewhat of a noob to linux, I have 1 small question
[04:51] <SmaulUnix> in grub,  is there a code i can use to add line breaks between the boot options?
[04:51] <tacidsky> why would you want line breaks?
[04:52] <SmaulUnix> i'm weird
[04:52] <tacidsky> lol
[04:52] <SmaulUnix> i'm reading up and have not found anything that would allow that
[04:52] <SmaulUnix> i did get some neet colors going on though in grub lol
[04:52] <tacidsky> nice
[04:53] <tacidsky> i've never dealt with grub, i either manually select which hard drive to boot, or its always worked perfectly for me
[04:53] <SmaulUnix> I got it dual booted with XP so it loads for me,
[04:53] <SmaulUnix> grub that is,
[04:54] <tacidsky> I just select which hard drive to boot via the motherboards commands
[04:54] <tacidsky> its easy when you have three different sized hard drives.
[04:54] <SmaulUnix>  but where it says Other Operating Systems i wanted to put spaces there to clean it up a little
[04:54] <SmaulUnix> Sweet
[04:54] <tacidsky> hmm.
[04:54] <tacidsky> you could just echo a blank line?
[04:55] <SmaulUnix> just make 1 line saying echo  ?
[04:55] <tacidsky> naw
[04:55] <tacidsky> like a blank title line
[04:55] <SmaulUnix> ah I tried that, you should see what that does lol
[04:55] <tacidsky> lol whats it do ?
[04:56] <SmaulUnix> makes all the options below it disappear and when you move the line you pick with the arrows it brings them back onto the screen
[04:56] <SmaulUnix> kind of weird, so it makes them like they are hidden
[04:57] <tacidsky> ha nice
[04:57] <SmaulUnix> i havent been able to find anything on doing this in google, it is hard to search for
[04:57] <SmaulUnix> i dont think anyone really bothers to do it
[04:57] <SmaulUnix> or knows enough and just does it
[04:58] <tacidsky> hmm..
[04:58] <tacidsky> just have title with a dor ?
[04:58] <tacidsky> dot*
[04:58] <SmaulUnix> that would probably work too
[04:58] <tacidsky> try in #grub
[04:59] <SmaulUnix> Nice didnt think of checking there lol
[04:59] <SmaulUnix> what irc client are you using?
[04:59] <tacidsky> xchat
[04:59] <SmaulUnix> ah, i am trying out konversation
[04:59] <SmaulUnix> i use to use Xchat
[04:59] <tacidsky> sudo apt-get install xchat nowwww :)
[05:00] <tacidsky> or pidgin
[05:00] <SmaulUnix> lol
[05:04] <tacidsky> no luck yet :(
[05:04] <tacidsky> did you try the    title            .
[05:04] <tacidsky> ?
[05:04] <SmaulUnix> nah, not yet, dont wanna reboot to test
[05:04] <SmaulUnix> i am on the system now
[05:06] <tacidsky> reboot ill tell you if anyone responds in # grub ?
[05:06] <Ketrel> What do you have to do to get mp3 support and other things like that in 8.10?
[05:06] <tacidsky> install the codecs?
[05:07] <SmaulUnix> alright thanks man,
[05:07] <SmaulUnix> brb
[05:07] <Ketrel> isn't there something odd you have to do to even get the codecs?
[05:08] <tacidsky> hmm no idea. lemme try!
[05:09] <tacidsky> use amarok
[05:10] <tacidsky> no one responded yet smaul
[05:10] <SmaulUnix> thanks,
[05:10] <tacidsky> did it work?
[05:10] <SmaulUnix> doing that replaced the line that says Other Operating Systems with the .
[05:11] <tacidsky> yah, Ketrel, just use amarok and then play an mp3 file, it will tell you to install the codecs, then it will install them and restart amarok
[05:12] <tacidsky> SmaulUnix hm thats weird
[05:12] <Ketrel> I don't have any mp3s handy I'm in synaptic trying to get everything setup
[05:12] <SmaulUnix> in my menu.lst i had this
[05:12] <SmaulUnix> title   .
[05:12] <SmaulUnix> title Other Operating Systems
[05:12] <tacidsky> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=211516
[05:12] <SmaulUnix> and only the . showed on to the boot up
[05:13] <tacidsky> thats a good solution!
[05:14] <SmaulUnix> he has a better reason for doing it lol
[05:15] <tacidsky> aw hes so nice to his daddy.
[05:15] <tacidsky> so yah, do you understand what its doing?
[05:16] <tacidsky> its basically making a fake kernel and fake initrd, so it wont boot anything
[05:17] <SmaulUnix> ya i may try it. Not a big deal really, just trynig to be different
[05:17] <tacidsky> lol and just use \t for a title! lol
[05:18] <Zehava> I installed kubuntu 8.10 from live CD, everything works great, until...I try to play a game and it says I don't have opengl 2.1.  which if I"m reading correctly is due to bad or not up to date nvidia drivers.
[05:18] <Zehava> So my question is how do I install nvidia drivers on kubuntu please?
[05:19] <tacidsky> Zehava http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=install+nvidia+drivers+ubuntu+8.10&btnG=Google+Search&aq=1s&oq=install+nvidia+drivers+kubu
[05:20] <NickPresta> !nvidia | Zehava
[05:20] <Zehava> thanks
[05:24] <qmr> I'm on ubuntu 8.04, I need kioclient ... what pkg should I install?
[05:27] <tacidsky> does the Twitter widget crash on anyone else?
[05:29] <Ketrel> Other than using Amarok and doing it that way, how can you get mp3 and other non-free codec support?
[05:30] <NickPresta> !mp3 | Ketrel
[05:32] <runpain2> how can i auto start a gdesklet daemon like a clock without starting the whole shell where you pick the daemon from
[05:32] <Zehava> how can I shut down KDM with kde4? sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop    isn't working
[05:32] <Ketrel> NickPresta: thanks, that's what I was looking for
[05:33] <qmr> !kioclient
[05:34] <tacidsky> wow knowing about that script would have been nice earlier :(
[05:38] <romy28> hi
[05:42] <runpain2> how can i auto start a gdesklet daemon like a clock without starting the whole shell where you pick the daemon from
[05:43] <runpain2> Like in ubuntu ce a bible verse shows up on desktop when you loged in
[06:01] <pulaski> hello, is there a specific channel other than #apache2 on freenode for asking kubuntu apache2 confiuration questions?
[06:02] <runpain2> how can i auto start a gdesklet daemon like a clock without starting the whole shell where you pick the daemon from
[06:02] <runpain2> Like in ubuntu ce a bible verse shows up on desktop when you loged in
[06:04] <runpain2> is there an .xsessions any where where i can add the lines   #!/bin/bash   /usr/bin/clock
[06:07] <dwidmann> runpain2: you could put a .desktop file in ~/.kde/Autostart
[06:08] <dwidmann> runpain2: which could actually refer to a script to be run in a terminal ... least that's how I'd do it.
[06:08] <runpain2> how do i make the file please
[06:09] <pulaski> Can I add an alias directive in /etc/apache2/htppd.conf so requests for files with a .php extension will, for example, be found in ~/public_html/php/index.php?
[06:12] <dwidmann> runpain2: should be able to (in dolphin or konqueror) right click, create new -> link to application
[06:14] <runpain2> great but i only want the bible verses to show up not the shell that shows all the chooses
[06:15] <tacidsky> make a widget to do that?
[06:17] <dwidmann> runpain2: erm, with graphical things the workaround with the script and terminal shouldn't usually be necessary
[06:18] <runpain2> i dont have option on right clik for creat new link only text or html
[06:41] <vbgunz> I cannot set a shortcut key to launch ksnapshot... anyone know why?
[07:18] <tacidsky> I have no idea why
[07:20] <tacidsky> doesnt printscreen bring it up?
[07:20] <Neremor> hello!
[07:20] <Neremor> i've a question
[07:21] <tacidsky> hi9
[07:21] <tacidsky> hi*
[07:21] <Neremor> i gonna use compiz now but i don't know wich window manager and wich window decorator is the best...
[07:21] <Neremor> which one may you recommend?
[07:21] <tacidsky> which ones have you used?
[07:21] <Neremor> i'm on kde so i used kwin right now
[07:22] <tacidsky> its all preference. One person may say one thing, and another may say a different thing.
[07:22] <Neremor> but i want one that is highly customizable...
[07:22] <Neremor> i mean with your own skins
[07:22] <tacidsky> Oh I've never tried skinning so I can't help you there
[07:22] <Neremor> for wich one are the most skins written?
[07:22] <Neremor> hm
[07:23] <Neremor> np ;)
[07:23] <tacidsky> check kde-look.org or gnome-look.org
[07:23] <Neremor> i do but there are themes for many window decorators
[07:24] <Neremor> i don't think i can use kwin as the window manager and compiz-decorator es window decorator, can i?
[07:25] <Neremor> ok in kde-look the most skins are for beryl
[07:25] <Neremor> but i think beryl is something like compiz but for gnome and not a real window manager?
[07:25] <tacidsky> i thought beryl and compiz joined?
[07:25] <dr_willis> !beryl
[07:25] <tacidsky> woo I was right :)
[07:25] <dr_willis> Beryl is dead
[07:26] <dr_willis> and with the new features of kde 4 -  You may want to explore them instead of messign with compiz
[07:26] <dr_willis> :)
[07:26] <tacidsky> I'd wait until KDE4 was less buggy.. Its been a pain to me. :(
[07:27] <tacidsky> I remember my first experience with KDE4.. Some reason after every install the System fonts were HUGE, so i couldnt do anything and the windows were so small, it was very comical.
[07:27] <andrew_> Hello. Please help me with soundcard mess
[07:27] <Neremor> i tried them
[07:28] <Neremor> and they are nice too :)
[07:29] <andrew_> A have Audigy 4 and on-board Realtek. I can not hear sound from the Audigy AUX input
[07:29] <Neremor> i think i can use dekorator skins without compiz?
[07:29] <tacidsky> hey SmaulUnix did you ever figure out that thing you were doing with Grub ?
[07:31] <andrew_> And I can make only one call from skype. After it the skype displays problem with playback
[07:32] <tacidsky> try installing aumix ?
[07:33] <andrew_> that is aumux?
[07:33] <andrew_> sorry, what is
[07:33] <tacidsky> !aumix
[07:33] <tacidsky> naw thats not what you want
[07:34] <andrew_> by the way which sound system should be installed, alsa or pulse auduo? Looks like I have both
[07:34] <tacidsky> never heard of pulse
[07:34] <tacidsky> but then again im not the best person to ask
[07:34] <tacidsky> ask in ##linux
[07:34] <andrew_> ok, thanks
[07:35] <andrew_> and where is best place to ask about TV-tuners?
[07:35] <mkquist> andrew_: have you opened alsamixer and made sure all are up?
[07:36] <dlew86> anyone know how to get smb working in 8.10
[07:36] <dlew86> nvm
[07:36] <andrew_> mkquist: I do not have alsamixer. KMix does not fit?
[07:39] <mkquist> andrew_: thats right this is kubuntu...  not sure if they are the same, but I believe you can still open alsamixer
[07:40] <andrew_> mkquist: Ok, I'll install it now. I've just uninstalled pulse audio... Let me take a look
[07:40] <mkquist> andrew_: open a terminal and type alsamixer
[07:41] <mkquist> andrew_: have you checked out this yet? ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[07:41] <andrew_> mkquist: some text-mode app appears
[07:42] <andrew_> Colored as antique TMail :)
[07:42] <mkquist> andrew_: should be a box with sliders and color bars, use arrow key to go side to side and move sliders up/down...
[07:45] <andrew_> mkquist: I see six sliders. master, bass, tone show level about 50%  and PCM cent, front and LFE - 100%
[07:46] <mkquist> andrew_: might try moving them up/down and see if it makes a difference w/you sound problem.
[07:46] <mkquist> *your
[07:46] <andrew_> It shows Audigy 4 and SigmaTel STAC9750 by the top
[07:48] <tacidsky> I KNEW YOU WERE ALIVE!
[07:49] <andrew_> mkquist: Yes, I can adjust volume in videoplayer from there. But after uninstalling pulseudio amarok becomes quiet again :( Looks like I must have both sound managers installed - alsa and pulse
[07:50] <andrew_> So I have at least two problems with sound: no sound from TV-tuner, attached to AUX on Audigy and persistent problem with skype, which is able to play test sound, but fail to make calls
[07:50] <mkquist> andrew_: i think you can change the driver in amarok to use another driver
[07:51] <hyper_ch> JontheEchidna: are you online?
[07:52] <andrew_> mkquist: Yes, I've tried to switch amarok to alsa manually: no sound. It plays only via pulseaudio
[07:53] <mkquist> andrew_: hmm, well it was just a thought, cant say I've played around with amarok a whole lot...
[07:53] <RandyCalifornia> what do u need to know about amarok?
[07:54] <andrew_> Amarok? - It does not make sound via alsa
[07:55] <RandyCalifornia> [andrew_] go to settings ---> configure amarok
[07:55] <RandyCalifornia> and click where it says "OSD"
[07:55] <RandyCalifornia> sorry,
[07:55] <mkquist> andrew_: might wanna restate your problems for RandyCalifornia...
[07:55] <RandyCalifornia> "ENGINE"
[07:56] <andrew_> Randy: Yes, I'm there. What to do next?
[07:56] <RandyCalifornia> and change the device
[07:56] <RandyCalifornia> sorry, "OUTPUT PLUGIN"
[07:56] <RandyCalifornia> try "OSS"
[07:56] <andrew_> Output plugin: alsa
[07:57] <RandyCalifornia> try "oss"
[07:57] <andrew_> Done! No sound yet
[07:58] <andrew_> How the videoplayer managed to make sounds...
[07:58] <andrew_> I mean dragon player.
[07:58] <vbgunz> are there any themes that help make KDE3 mix in well with KDE4 yet?
[07:59] <RandyCalifornia> :S try another output
[08:00] <andrew_> Which one? I've just uninstalled pulse, so Amarock now crashes if pulse selected.
[08:01] <andrew_> There are these outputs: auto, pulse audio, alsa, oss, and file. That's it
[08:02] <andrew_> alsa and oss are silent as a fish. Via pulse it works if pulse installed.
[08:06] <RandyCalifornia> it should work with oss
[08:06] <RandyCalifornia> do u have xine installed?
[08:07] <andrew_> Yes
[08:07] <andrew_> As I've written before it works via pulse audio
[08:08] <andrew_> xine engine, not xine player
[08:11] <andrew_> looks like I have to reboot the system. I'll be back soon...
[08:11] <RandyCalifornia> I'm out of ideas :S
[08:11] <RandyCalifornia> ok
[08:11] <RandyCalifornia> so, does anyone here likes amarok?
[08:12]  * _lumm does
[08:12] <_lumm> :p
[08:13] <RandyCalifornia> ??
[08:13] <RandyCalifornia> :(
[08:14] <RandyCalifornia> :'(
[08:14] <RandyCalifornia> sup andrew_
[08:15] <andrew_> Hello again
[08:15] <RandyCalifornia> I ran out of ideas
[08:15] <RandyCalifornia> does it work fine now?
[08:15] <RandyCalifornia> ???
[08:16] <andrew_> Randy: Unfortunately no.
[08:16] <KubuntuOnIbook> have you tried xmms?
[08:16] <RandyCalifornia> have you tried xmms?
[08:16] <andrew_> And after reinstallation of pulse audio it fails too,
[08:16] <RandyCalifornia> :S
[08:17] <andrew_> Not yet.
[08:17] <RandyCalifornia> like, do you get a message or no sound is coming out of amarok?
[08:18] <andrew_> Not it says: xine is unable to initialize any audiodriver
[08:19] <andrew_> Whan I'm trying to switch it to pulse. And it still quiet when alsa is selected
[08:19] <andrew_> sorry, for misstyping "When"
[08:19] <RandyCalifornia> oss is quiet too, right??
[08:19] <andrew_> yes
[08:20] <andrew_> But kde plays windows effects, dragon player works
[08:20] <RandyCalifornia> when I get that message, I'm still able to play songs
[08:20] <RandyCalifornia> install Xine Player
[08:20] <RandyCalifornia> the full player
[08:20] <RandyCalifornia> and then restart x-server
[08:21] <RandyCalifornia> make sure the audio driver on systems settings is selected "Auto"
[08:21] <RandyCalifornia> or you just may use xmms
[08:21] <andrew_> Is the xine player able to work with collections, etc?
[08:21] <RandyCalifornia> no, but it may solve ur problem with amarok
[08:22] <andrew_> Ok, I'll try it a bit later. Now please help me with the updates. It says about 162 updates available, but fails to download them
[08:24] <andrew_> It worked for 15 minutes and downloaded many files, but then it failed. I've tried several times, changing the source server
[08:24] <andrew_> Any ideas about it
[08:24] <andrew_> ?
[08:24] <nuvias> hey if I have kubuntu 8.04 how do I upgrade to 8.10?
[08:25] <hyper_ch> andrew_: what do you want to do?
[08:26] <hyper_ch> nuvias: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu
[08:26] <nuvias> thx
[08:27] <andrew_> I've just permitted the auto-update to do its job and do not annoy me anymore. But it fails to update
[08:27] <hyper_ch> andrew_: open the terminal and run:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:27] <hyper_ch> andrew_: and close synaptic and adept or whatever package manager you use
[08:29] <andrew_> So, I should not trust the auto-update applet which is sitting in the tray? If so, how to get rid of it?
[08:29] <hyper_ch> andrew_: where did I say you should not trust it?
[08:30] <andrew_> sorry, you dont
[08:30] <andrew_> you didnt
[08:31] <hyper_ch> andrew_: ;) running updates from the command line gives you feedback ;)
[08:31] <hyper_ch> andrew_: whether it works and where problems might be
[08:32] <andrew_> Thnk you. I'll try it immediately after adept finishes current operation
[08:33] <andrew_> It takes some time...
[08:40] <andrew_> Sorry for my troubling you again. How to get the KDE help search working?
[08:41] <andrew_> It searches only among a few manuals...
[08:42] <piotreceq> How do I install an application with extension "tar.bz2"?
[08:43] <RandyCalifornia> ??
[08:43] <RandyCalifornia> what the heck happened?
[08:43] <RandyCalifornia> ??
[08:43] <piotreceq> idk
[08:43] <wet>  wat is dis?!
[08:43] <RandyCalifornia> hey wet!
[08:43] <RandyCalifornia> idk
[08:44] <RandyCalifornia> that was weird
[08:44] <andrew_> tar -jxf <archive name>.tar.bz2 and then look for README or INSTALL there
[08:44] <wet>  yeah
[08:44] <piotreceq> aha thx
[08:44] <RandyCalifornia> I cannot install mplayer, totem, amsn
[08:44] <RandyCalifornia> :S
[08:44] <RandyCalifornia> it says it cannot fetch some archives
[08:44] <RandyCalifornia> I already did a check and same thing is happening
[08:45] <Ketrel> does KDE4 not have screensavers?
[08:45] <Ketrel> (lol netsplit)
[08:45] <RandyCalifornia> idk
[08:45] <eppan> dont your screen turn black when u leave it for a while?
[08:45] <Ketrel> eppan: ye
[08:45] <Ketrel> *yes
[08:45] <Ketrel> I see the screensaver area
[08:45] <Ketrel> there' just nothing listed
[08:45] <RandyCalifornia> change the screensaver in system settings
[08:45] <Ketrel> except for blank and random
[08:45] <RandyCalifornia> or press "F2" and run "kcontrol"
[08:46] <Ketrel> RandyCalifornia: I know where to change it, I just have none
[08:46] <RandyCalifornia> :S
[08:51] <eppan> Ketrel: tried apt-cashe search screensaver | grep kde ?
[08:54] <Ketrel> eppan I just remembered to do that :p
[08:55] <Ketrel> Why do screensavers such as "Flipscreen3d" never work?
[08:56] <Ketrel> They seem to use some stock image rather than the screen.
[08:56] <macjason0607> question .. if i make a folder that has mp3's into an iso .. can i just burn the iso to a cd and it will be an mp3 cd ?
[08:58] <eppan> macjason0607: that will work for my mp3 player...not sure about every player
[08:58] <macjason0607> hmm..
[08:58] <macjason0607> eppan, i want to make multiple cd's
[08:59] <Ketrel> macjason0607: is your goal to just have a CD with mp3s on it or an audio cd?
[08:59] <RandyCalifornia> totem won't install :S
[09:00] <RandyCalifornia> it says that the install is broken
[09:01] <hyper_ch> eppan: it's cache
[09:02] <eppan> ye,...typo.....cant tab commands in here :S
[09:02] <andrew_> Hello again
[09:04] <dwidmann_> macjason0607: yeah, or (easier), just add the files/folders you want in k3b and burn it as a data cd ... most things that can play mp3 cds will treat each folder as an album and provide functionality for switching albums
[09:06] <nuvias> hey i've downloaded firefox but i must open it by some firefox script. i want to have it in internet tab or on desktop, how to do that?
[09:07] <ryxxed> make a shortcut to the script, i don't get your situation completely?
[09:08] <nuvias> i have unpacked the tar.bz2 file into 'firefox' folder. i have a list of weird files in it. and there's a script called 'firefox'. it always starts installation,  but it doesn't install itself
[09:09] <hyper_ch> nuvias: why do you "download" firefox?
[09:09] <hyper_ch> nuvias: you should install it from the repos
[09:09] <hyper_ch> nuvias: sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:10] <nuvias> ahaa
[09:10] <eppan> nuvias: do you have attributes and premissions sett correctly?
[09:10] <hyper_ch> nuvias: (1) most of the software is available in the repositories
[09:10] <nuvias> i don't know, i am new in Kubuntu
[09:10] <hyper_ch> nuvias: (2) you can add more repositories - if you trust them
[09:11] <hyper_ch> nuvias: I'd urge you to have a read through here:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[09:11] <eppan> nuvias: it is smart to stick to the repo's for installing programs in the beginning.
[09:11] <nuvias> kk
[09:14] <Ketrel> Does synclient and syndaemon exist for 8.10?
[09:16] <hyper_ch> Ketrel: what are they supposed to do?
[09:21] <Ketrel> manage touchpad settings
[09:22] <Ketrel> anyway, another question, my xorg.conf in /etc/X11 looks very empty
[09:22] <Ketrel> is it in another place in 8.10?
[09:22] <hyper_ch> Ketrel: that's the new way how x11 is being handled....
[09:23] <dr_willis> X11 auto-configures most stuff these days
[09:23] <Ketrel> Where would the load statment for the synaptics driver be located?
[09:23] <peabody_> Does anyone here use news? I'm trying to find a good usenet client, and I have two simple requirements, nzb and ssl support. The program nzb SAYS it supports SSL, but it is riddled with bugs that the options interface won't close once opened, program crashes, and SSL is ONLY supported on port 443, not 119.
[09:23] <Ketrel> I need to find the "Section "InputDevice""
[09:23] <Ketrel> and add a line
[09:24] <dr_willis> Ketrel,  for my laptops I dont need to mess with them.  I guess i could check my xorg.conf - but im pretty sure they are not listed in my machines
[09:24] <dr_willis> You want to tweak the synaptics stuff?
[09:25] <Ketrel> dr_willis in order to tweak it, I need to add a line
[09:25] <peabody_> I've tried KLibido, but it hangs on the first queue item, and it doesn't have SSL support, and it stops the queue after about 4 files saying there's a file IO error, but there's nothing wrong with my disk. The FAQ for klibido says to delete the queue and try again, but omg how fucking annoying is it to have to requeue your entire que every 5 files?
[09:25] <Ketrel> but that whole section isn't in xorg.conf anymore
[09:25] <Ketrel> I need to know where it is
[09:25] <dr_willis> Ketrel,  if you find a example xorg with the lines you can add them all to it.
[09:26] <peabody_> I've tried wine + newleccher, which is what I'm used to but it won't install my newsleecher key under wine
[09:26] <dr_willis> cut/paste the whole sexction - i think it will override any auto-detected settings
[09:26] <Ketrel> but where is it now is my question
[09:30] <peabody_> Buehler?
[09:30] <Ketrel> dr_willis: do you know where? (it's important because if I don't disable tapping, I always screw up by accidently brushing against it)
[09:31] <Ketrel> I really want to avoid running a system wide grep :(
[09:32] <Mamarok> Ketrel: updatedb, then locate
[09:32] <Ketrel> locate WHAT
[09:32] <Ketrel> I don't know what file it's in
[09:32] <Mamarok> locate thepackageyouarelookingfor
[09:32] <Ketrel> I'm not looking for a package
[09:32] <Mamarok> oh, then try apt-cache search
[09:32] <Ketrel> I'm looking for a section in a config file
[09:33] <Mamarok> Ketrel: what are you looking for exactly?
[09:33] <Ketrel> I need the InputDevice section from xorg.conf as I need to add a line to it, but that section no longer exists in what ever this new way is.
[09:34] <gr8n0wn> hi, all my online-games suddenly cant connect to the internet, it worked well before,any1 know what i can do to find the problem?
[09:35] <Ketrel> It has to be stored somewhere
[09:36] <Mamarok> Ketrel: why not add it then? you can override Xorg.conf with adding your personal settings
[09:37] <Ketrel> Because I don't know exactly WHAT to override
[09:37] <Mamarok> the default settings have been removed from xorg.conf a while ago
[09:37] <dr_willis> Ketrel,  I recall there being some synaptic 'tweak/tools' in the repos to allow disabling of  those settings
[09:38] <Mamarok> Ketrel: what laptop do you have?
[09:38] <dr_willis> I bet the ubuntu/kubuntu forums also discuss this Ketrel  - ive seen many people ask about it.. My own laptp has a 'off' button on the touchpad i normally leave it off.
[09:38] <Ketrel> Sony Vaio
[09:38] <Ketrel> dr_willis: there ARE solutions
[09:38] <Mamarok> you should have a shortcut on your laptop for disabling the touchpad then
[09:38] <Mamarok> like FN with something, read the specs of your laptop
[09:38] <Ketrel> I don't want to disable the touchpad
[09:38] <Ketrel> I want to disable TAPPING
[09:38] <Mamarok> it's hardware driven, so no need to do thid in software
[09:38] <Ketrel> I still use it as a mouse
[09:39] <Ketrel> Ok, let me start fresh.
[09:39] <Mamarok> Ketrel: depends on your acpi settings then, not sure you can change that, did you google for your particular laptop?
[09:39] <Ketrel> I wish to disable tapping, I know the command to use "synclient TapButton1=0
[09:39] <dr_willis> if you find an older xorg.conf via google. or in the forums. In theory you could cut./paste the whole section to the new minimal xorg.cnf. but i do not know what setting disables it..
[09:39] <Ketrel> I did this PERFECTLY in 8.04
[09:39] <dr_willis> With the latest xorg.conf the synaptic drivers have been radically changed. I dont think synclient works any more
[09:40] <Ketrel> I just need to enable SHMConfig
[09:40] <Ketrel> That's all I need to do
[09:40] <Ketrel> but I need to add it to a section in xorg that no longer exists
[09:41] <Ketrel> If synclient doesn't work, why would it be included in the install without me installing it?
[09:41] <dr_willis> Got your old xorg.conf handy?  You could in theory just use it...
[09:41] <Ketrel> all I wish to do is enable SHMConfig
[09:41] <Ketrel> I know what to do from there
[09:42] <dr_willis> cut/paste an example  Section "InputDevice"
[09:42] <dr_willis>    , to the end of the xorg.conf Might work.
[09:42] <dr_willis> like the ones shown at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=975421
[09:45] <dr_willis> person at this ForumPost.. also just added options to the end  of his xorg.conf it seems...   http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5720757&postcount=11
[09:47] <dr_willis> !info gsynaptics
[09:47] <dr_willis> !info ksynaptics
[09:48] <dr_willis> Hmm.. the 'proper' way to enable SHMCOnfig seems to be documented at -->? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig
[09:51] <Ketrel> dr_willis: the person at the forum post did what I am TRYING to do
[09:52] <Ketrel> Note how he added options to the InputDevice section, a section which is MISSING from mine
[09:52] <Ketrel> the reason I can't add it is becasue I don't know what to put for some of them, such as device
[09:54] <dr_willis> You cut/paste the WHOLE section from his notes to the end of the xorg.conf  - is what i am gathering from the forums.
[09:54] <dr_willis> as for specific options that are unknown.. i would say comment them out.. and let  X auto-set them
[09:55] <Ketrel> Option		"Device"	"/dev/psaux"
[09:55] <Ketrel> even that one
[09:55] <Ketrel> is my touch pad definitely /dev/psaux?
[09:55] <dr_willis> every touchpad ive seen is /dev/psaux
[09:55] <dr_willis> on 3 laptops...
[10:08] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> hello, how do i define a vpn connection, i want to connect to my university's network
[10:08] <dr_willis> cant say that ive ever used VPN sorry
[10:08] <dr_willis> !vpn
[10:09] <dr_willis> KDE might have some gui/front ends also..    but thats all i know on the topic
[10:09] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> thanks
[10:13] <Ketrel> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig <---- that worked
[10:13] <Ketrel> and as a result, I can use the synclient command
[10:13] <Ketrel> which also works now
[10:14] <dr_willis> And thats  Proberly the 'best' fix for the issue in 8.10 also
[10:14] <eagles0513875> !info curl
[10:14] <Ketrel> I guess I'll throw a shmconfig.fdi file on my flash drive
[10:21] <eagles0513875> !info libcurl3
[10:23] <Ketrel> What's up with the tray icons getting messed up
[10:23] <Ketrel> the non-kde ones
[10:34] <ubuntu__> plz help. i have kubuntu 8.10 and running Compiz Fusion. When i switch something like "Bicubic Filter" on (in compiz) my system crashed and now i can't see graphic screen :( any suggestions? i'm from Live CD now
[10:35] <nyte> hi, how can i insatll adobe flash player für firefox?
[10:35] <ubuntu__> how can i switch this to "off" or how can i disable Compiz at start up, to my native kubuntu
[10:35] <ryxxed> uh
[10:35] <ryxxed> just remove the packages
[10:35] <ryxxed> actually, wait
[10:35] <ryxxed> if you reinstall them later, you'll still get the bicubic
[10:36] <luedze> #rpa
[10:36] <ubuntu__> ryxxed:  if i remove settings folder from my home folder?
[10:37] <ryxxed> you could try it
[10:37] <ryxxed> experiment
[10:37] <stdin> I'd recommend removing ~/.compizconfig/ to reset the config
[10:39] <nyte> anyone knows a german kubuntu help chat?
[10:39] <eagles0513875> ryxxed experimenting sometimes is recipe for disaster in linux world
[10:39] <eagles0513875> !de | nyte
[10:39] <nyte> ty
[10:39] <ryxxed> you can always just ctrl + alt + t
[10:39] <eagles0513875> nyte i thought i mis read that
[10:39] <ryxxed> full screen terminal is awesome
[10:40] <ubuntu__> there is a folder named ".compiz" in my home folder
[10:40] <ubuntu__> delete that?
[10:41] <webas> how to unplugg ipod correctly.. if i unplug it..still i cant remove it
[10:41] <dr_willis> ubuntu__,  you could move it.. :)
[10:42] <dr_willis> webas,  Huh?  You proberly want to unmount it  in the menus, or safely remove, or whatever terms they use these days.. first - then physcally unplug the device
[10:42] <webas> i want to safely remove whatever the word is :)
[10:43] <dr_willis> ive seen the terms 'eject' 'safely remove' 'unmount' and others used in different GUI/Tools...
[10:43] <dr_willis> no idea what kde4 uses at this time
[10:57] <andrew_> Hello
[10:59] <Mamarok> hi
[11:02] <andrew_> Help me please with my TV-tuner. Today I have installed updates and TV time has stopped displaying channels.
[11:02] <MrOtacon> Hello. I wonder if someone can help me please. I have created a kai.desktop file to launch a program called Xlink Kai. Its executable is /usr/sbin/kaiengine. I have added my kai.desktop file (located in /usr/share/applications/kde4/) to a panel so i can quick launch it. However - the program must be run with root rights. It runs fine, if I enter the password, but i do not want to enter the password - i want it to run as
[11:02] <MrOtacon> root, but not prompt for password. How do i do this?  I have tried to "sudo visudo" and added the line: "user    ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/kaiengine", but it still prompts for password
[11:04] <andrew_> RandyCalifornia: I won, My Amarok is working now!
[11:04] <andrew_> ...after uninstalling pulseaudio and editing alsa.conf manually
[11:08] <andrew_> Does anybody have a working analog TV-tuner? Please help
[11:08] <dr_willis> MrOtacon,  you may want to reread/check some sudo tutoials - i think you can set up what you want  with the proper sudo options.   OR as a 'bad' way.. (not reccomended) , you could set the suid bit on the executable so every user can run it and that app runs as root.
[11:09] <MrOtacon> dr_willis: How do i do that - i want every user to be able to access it without needing root rights
[11:09] <dr_willis> set the suid bit on the executable
[11:09] <dr_willis> chmod +s /whatever/binary
[11:09] <dr_willis> this could be considered a HUGE SECURITY risk
[11:10] <dr_willis> oh add a sudo to the front of that command line. :P
[11:11] <MrOtacon> ty.. what are the major consequences of me doing this?
[11:12] <dr_willis> If for example.. that program can launch a  terminal, or other tasks.. they WILL be running as root.. thus that program could delete/change/remove/ most anythying on the system
[11:13] <MrOtacon> ahhh - ty... don't really want to do that. Lol
[11:14] <MrOtacon> they have the ability to open a firefox window through the app... dont want them having root access in firefox
[11:14] <dr_willis> SUDO has a lot of features people dont ever try/learn/read about.. :) thers a lot more to it then just a command ya tack in front of 'root' commands
[11:14] <MrOtacon> :)
[11:14] <dr_willis> Firfox would be ran as root I belive..  actually you may want to double check that...
[11:14] <dr_willis> Im pretty sure it would be ran as root
[11:14] <MrOtacon> ok - ty... I'm gonna go and read up on sudo properly
[11:14] <MrOtacon> thanks for help
[11:15] <dr_willis> i find varioud web sites with sudo config examples.. to be more clear then the docs/man pages at times
[11:17] <ubuntu__> i want to chat with my gmail account in kopete what should i do
[11:18] <nahy> i want to chat with my gmail account in kopete what should i do
[11:21] <nahy> doesn't anybody help me?
[11:22] <dr_willis> I dont know enough about Kopete to tutor you on its usseage.. i wouls say check its docs...
[11:22] <dr_willis> It may or may not be able to use gmail chat.
[11:23] <nahy> thank you!
[11:23] <hyper_ch> nahy: have some patience... nobody is paid here to help you
[11:24] <dr_willis> whch  of coruse.. should of been step 1 :)  - but People seem to forget about documetation these days
[11:24] <nahy> i know
[11:24] <dr_willis> Ive never used the gmail chat stuff yet ..
[11:24]  * dr_willis lives on IRC
[11:27] <eagles0513875> !jabber
[11:27] <eagles0513875> nahy i think thats the protocol u use for gtalk
[11:28] <nahy> when i want sign in it doesn't have gtalk option
[11:29] <Nalleman> What is the best way to install Skype to a kubuntu system?
[11:30] <dr_willis> from medibuntu repos
[11:30] <dr_willis> !skype
[11:32] <nahy> i'm going to install pidgin and use it instead of kopete
[11:33] <ryxxed> pidgin is much better, yeah
[11:33] <dr_willis> !skype
[11:33] <dr_willis> doh
[11:38] <Ketrel> What's up with the tray icons getting messed up in kde4, the seem to get corrupted, and go blank sometimes
[11:40] <Mamarok> Ketrel: you have a Nvidia card?
[11:40] <hyper_ch> JontheEchidna: the KDE 4.2 PPA repo gives me this error:  http://phpfi.com/388271
[11:43] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: try to override it
[11:43] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: how?
[11:44] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: dpkg -i --force-overwrite and the adress of the kjots source on your computer_
[11:45] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kjots_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_amd64.deb
[11:45] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: still this won't help with the packages itself
[11:46] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: it will install the kjots package, yes
[11:46] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: I know... kdepim also works without kjots
[11:46] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: but the problem lies in the packaged .deb files...  I just need functionality ;)
[12:15] <olskolirc> try #html
[12:15] <olskolirc> oh im not clicking that
[12:15] <hyper_ch> ^^
[12:15] <olskolirc> ive never heard of a ch extension
[12:16] <Tm_T> !ch
[12:16] <Tm_T> hmmm (:)
[12:16] <hyper_ch> olskolirc: I guess you haven't heard of a lot of extensions
[12:16] <hyper_ch> olskolirc: you know what .dk is?
[12:16] <Tm_T> hyper_ch: denmark
[12:16] <hyper_ch> olskolirc: or .es ?
[12:16] <Tm_T> hyper_ch: espana
[12:16] <hyper_ch> olskolirc: .ce
[12:17] <hyper_ch> olskolirc: .cr
[12:17] <hyper_ch>  :)
[12:17] <Tm_T> hyper_ch: and this is slipping to offtopic (;)
[12:17] <hyper_ch> olskolirc: but you don't know what .ch is :(
[12:17] <Ketrel> Ok, now you can tell me what neon build means :p
[12:17] <Tm_T> !neon | Ketrel
[12:17] <hyper_ch> !.ch
[12:18] <olskolirc> !clipper
[12:18] <olskolirc> !ch
[12:19] <Ketrel> oh ack, I don't want to use that, I'll wait until it hits stable lol
[12:19] <olskolirc> i was running kde4.2 and its awesome but too unstable i just lost my whole system behind it
[12:19] <Tm_T> olskolirc: glad it all works fine here (:
[12:19] <olskolirc> im still rebuilding
[12:20] <hyper_ch> olskolirc: .ch --> Switzerland (confoederatio helvetica)
[12:20] <olskolirc> my plasma kept crashing
[12:20] <olskolirc> #html can help you hyper_ch
[12:20] <hyper_ch> olskolirc: ^^
[12:20] <Ketrel> what version is in 8.10?
[12:21] <olskolirc> kde4.1 Ketrel
[12:21] <Ketrel> ah ok
[12:21] <olskolirc> its stable
[12:21] <Mamarok> olskolirc: 4.1.3 I guess?
[12:21] <olskolirc> but you can't do much with the panels and other things we did in 3.5.  that all comes out in 4.2 stable realease in january
[12:21] <olskolirc> yes i guess Mamarok
[12:21] <fighterpilot> hi
[12:22] <olskolirc> hi
[12:22] <fighterpilot> anybody have iluminated keyboad media-tech?
[12:22] <fighterpilot> i got a problem putting it to shine
[12:22] <Mamarok> nope, not me
[12:22] <fighterpilot> when X is not open, it works, when it is, id does not. the light starts when you press the scroll lock key? any ides?
[12:23] <Mamarok> fighterpilot: and not many others I'd say, as this is quite expensive stuff
[12:23] <fighterpilot> it is not. i got it as a gift :)
[12:24] <kristina> hi, how I disactivate the confirm logout dialog?
[12:24] <fighterpilot> i think you cannot kristina
[12:25] <kristina> fighterpilot: I did on my laptop, an option somewhere in system settings I think, but don't remember how :)
[12:26] <fighterpilot>  kristinaoh, stupi dme
[12:26] <fighterpilot> goto kcontrol>kde components>session manager
[12:26] <kristina> ah got it
[12:26] <olskolirc> where do I go to learn how to make plasma themes?
[12:27] <kristina> session manager
[12:27] <fighterpilot> yep
[12:27] <fighterpilot> :)
[12:27] <kristina> thanks anyhow fighterpilot :)
[12:27] <fighterpilot> np kristina
[12:27] <olskolirc> oh good theres another girl
[12:27] <olskolirc> hi hi
[12:27] <fighterpilot> anyone knows how do i edit custom commands for a keyboard?
[12:27] <olskolirc> i don't have a clue fighterpilot
[12:28] <fighterpilot> ok
[12:28] <jussi01> !shortcuts | fighterpilot
[12:28] <olskolirc> !plasma
[12:29] <olskolirc> !plasmoids
[12:29] <olskolirc> !plasmoid
[12:29] <hyper_ch> !widget
[12:29] <jussi01> !botabuse > olskolirc
[12:29] <olskolirc> !stupid
[12:29] <olskolirc> !stupid |ubottu
[12:30] <jussi01> olskolirc: please dont abuse the bot
[12:30] <olskolirc> jussi01, where do i go to learn how to make plasma themes
[12:30] <olskolirc> i looked all over the internet
[12:32] <jussi01> olskolirc: obviously not :D go to google, type: "how to make plasma themes" then click on the third one... ;)
[12:32] <jussi01> easy link: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Development/Tutorials/Plasma/Theme
[12:34] <olskolirc> wow thanks jussi01
[12:35] <jussi01> no probs :D
[12:38] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: is the nightly amarok build submitting data to last fm?
[12:38] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: I don't know, I use SVN
[12:38] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: oh ok
[12:38] <Mamarok> but then, as nightly is using SVN also, it should :)
[12:42] <nahy> hi. i want to know if kubuntu 8.04 is long time support?
[12:42] <hyper_ch> nahy: it is
[12:42] <nahy> ok i just installed it and like it
[12:43] <hyper_ch> nahy: any reason why you went for the LTS version and not current one?
[12:43] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: seems the nightly building is not submitting to last.fm... at least not to me
[12:43] <nahy> because 8.10 doesn't match with my hardware
[12:43] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: it does, but only from the collection, not when you play streams
[12:43] <hyper_ch> nahy: with what hardware?
[12:44] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: I play collections
[12:44] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: the PPA amarok 2 version did submit
[12:44] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: but not anymore
[12:44] <nahy> i think it's the problem with my graphic card
[12:44] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: http://www.lastfm.de/user/hyper_ch
[12:44] <hyper_ch> nahy: what video card?
[12:44] <nahy> i have an onboard gfx
[12:44] <hyper_ch> nahy: so have I :)
[12:44] <hyper_ch> nahy: but what onboard do you have?
[12:45] <hyper_ch> nahy: did you try 8.10?
[12:45] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: it does with SVN, so normally Nightly should as it's a svn snapshot
[12:45] <nahy> intel
[12:45] <Mamarok> nahy: that definitely works with Intrepid!
[12:45] <nahy> and i tried 8.10
[12:45] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: I don't get any error at all.. which is strange... so I don't even know if it tries to submit
[12:45] <hyper_ch> nahy: intel should work on 8.10
[12:45] <nahy> my splash screen was freezing
[12:46] <nahy> at the very first use
[12:46] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: sometimes the last.fm server doesn't show your stas very fast, mybe wait another few minutes
[12:46] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: been waiting for half an hour already
[12:46] <Mamarok> nahy: disable desktop-effects
[12:46] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: and amarok 1 used to show in the bottom bar that it submits... I can't see that in amarok 2 anymore
[12:46] <nahy> i couldnt even sign in
[12:46] <Mamarok> let's see if the bot knows something:
[12:46] <Mamarok> !intel
[12:47] <nahy> i couldnt even sign in
[12:47] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: no, it doesn't show
[12:47] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: take the Amarok discussion to #amarok, it's getting cluttered here :)
[12:47] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: :)
[12:48] <nahy> i have my intrepid at home and it works great but at work i use hardy
[12:48] <Mamarok> nahy: did you try to start wit a new .kde/ folder in your home?
[12:49] <nahy> i said my friend :i couldnt even sign in
[12:49] <nahy> log in
[12:49] <nahy> i meant
[12:50] <Mamarok> nahy: you mean no login on the command line possible?
[12:51] <nahy> oh no
[12:51] <nahy> there was but i didn't use it
[12:51] <Mamarok> then something else is borked, that has nothing to do with your graphic card
[12:51] <nahy> ok
[12:52] <Mamarok> nahy: you should run in failsafe mode to see what errors you get
[12:52] <nahy> but im cool with hardy
[12:52] <Mamarok> then stay with hardy :)
[12:52] <nahy> i tried it and it said your x is damaged
[12:52] <nahy> thumbs up
[12:53] <Mamarok> nahy: try reinstall teh Xorg drivers then
[12:53] <Mamarok> *the
[12:53] <nahy> aha
[12:53] <nahy> something else: how can i use kopete to sign in to Gtalk
[12:54] <nahy> ?
[12:54] <webas> hello..can anyone tell me what the hell is going in adept :( im very dissapointed and frustrated... in adept i write example - amarok... to install it..and then i press apply changes.. and then adept downloads 100mb and installs who knows what :(
[12:54] <jussi01> nahy: have you set it to use gtalk? ie. in settings, accounts
[12:54] <nahy> oh no im gonna find it
[12:55] <jussi01> webas: first,calm down! :) then, tell me what exactly is the problem? that it installs a lot of stuff?
[12:56] <webas> yess..on intrepid new kde 4.1 official.. if i select to install for php or apache...or only one any program, it downloads always so much mb..100mb..70mb.. why? :D
[12:57] <RurouniJones> Possibly because it is installing updates while it is at it
[12:57] <jussi01> webas: I suspect it is because apt is now set to install recommends as well
[12:57] <RurouniJones> Or because it is downloading dependencies that the progra,m you requested ned
[12:57] <RurouniJones> Or that
[12:57] <webas> second thing.. if i want to refresh new list of all programs that adept offers..it downloads 10mb.. on old 3.5kde it downloads maybe 1mb.. i mean very fastly..i dont want to use so much bandwitch :|
[12:58] <nahy> jussi01: i couldnt find any gtalk in accounts sorry
[12:59] <jussi01> nahy: sorry, forgot to mention gtalk is jabber ;)
[12:59] <nahy> aha
[12:59] <nahy> thanks
[13:04] <vlad_> Привет всем!
[13:04] <Soliloquial> for some reason, gtk-window-decorator is decorating my windows in kde. how do I get this back to default behavior?
[13:05] <pmasho> how do I create another user with su privelages.. there aint no checkbox like in ubuntu which says "admin the system" ?
[13:05] <Mamarok> Soliloquial: system settings, appearance
[13:05] <hyper_ch> pmasho: add him to the "admin" group
[13:06] <nahy> thank you all bye
[13:06] <Mamarok> nahy: :)
[13:07] <Tm_T> Soliloquial: mkdir ~/.config/autostart/removed/ && mv ~/.config/autostart/* ~/.config/autostart/removed/
[13:07] <Tm_T> Soliloquial: logout ... login, see if it's fixed
[13:07] <pmasho> hyper_ch: ta ;-)
[13:08] <hyper_ch> pmasho: ta?
[13:09] <pmasho> hyper_ch: thankyou, it worked
[13:09] <hyper_ch> pmasho: :)
[13:10] <Tm_T> Soliloquial: let me know how did it go
[13:11] <Soliloquial> Tm_T, thanks
[13:11] <Tm_T> worked?
[13:11] <Soliloquial> I'll try that
[13:11] <Tm_T> ah
[13:12] <Soliloquial> there's no such folder autostart
[13:12] <olskolirc> plasma theme instructions talk a lot about svg.  what is svg?
[13:14] <Soliloquial> olskolirc: it's a vector image format using xml....you can make svgs in inkscape or by coding them by hand
[13:14] <olskolirc> create an image and save as .svg Soliloquial ?
[13:14] <webas> anyone can tell me how to to make php-mysql-apache work in kubuntu? what to search in adept ? what to install?
[13:15] <jussi01> !lamp | webas
[13:15] <webas> thanks
[13:15] <jussi01> :)
[13:15] <olskolirc> i heard lamp wasn't cool to install
[13:16] <Soliloquial> olskolirc, you have to use a vector image editor to save svgs such as inkscape, but that will work
[13:16] <jussi01> olskolirc: the vector image editor in kde is called Karbon ;)
[13:16] <Soliloquial> ok
[13:16] <jussi01> !info karbon
[13:18] <olskolirc> i just downloaded that one too and krita.  how do I take a look at an svg file anyone?
[13:19] <jussi01> olskolirc: just open it with karbon or inksacpe
[13:19] <stefanjrklb> hello :)
[13:19] <olskolirc> nevermind i got it
[13:19] <jussi01> hello stefanjrklb
[13:19] <stefanjrklb> I have question for some experience users of any distribution of linux:)
[13:20] <jussi01> !ask | stefanjrklb
[13:20] <stefanjrklb> do you know some web sites for some new users
[13:20] <stefanjrklb> ?
[13:20] <stefanjrklb> ok, next time I will know that :)
[13:21] <jussi01> !docs | stefanjrklb
[13:22] <olskolirc> you could try linuxcommand.org stefanjrklb
[13:22] <stefanjrklb> I will see :)
[13:23] <webas> when i sudo tasksel - select lamp server -.. i get error : aptitude failed (e100)
[13:23] <hyper_ch> stefanjrklb: and also search for:   "fosswire linux cheat sheet"  and "fosswire ubuntu cheat sheet"
[13:26] <webas> why i cant --- sudo apt-get install apache2 ..any help? error is - "..couldnt lock administrator folder"
[13:27] <webas> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) ||| E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[13:27] <stefanjrklb> thx guys :)
[13:28] <sgroi135> anyone here have any exp with Nepenthes>
[13:28] <stefanjrklb> I will help start useing Linux :)
[13:28] <jussi01> webas: do you have adept open?
[13:28] <Mamarok> webas: are you running another instance of aptitude or adept or whatever apt-get frontend
[13:28] <Mamarok> ?
[13:28] <webas> i closed everything..even log out'ed once
[13:28] <jussi01> !aptfix | webas
[13:28] <webas> thanks
[13:31] <webas> well i was trying sudo tasksel install lamp-server but for 10mins it was at 0percent so i turned terminal off.. :)
[13:32] <webas> it always is on 0%
[13:32] <bubu> slt a tous
[13:38] <Soliloquial> can someone help me figure out why windows in kde are being decorated by gtk?
[13:52] <yosi> any indonesian here?
[13:53] <bazhang> !id
[14:02] <eagles0513875> ryxxed :)
[14:02] <webas> hello is it possible somehow download all those apt-get programs i want to download.. but not to install just download..and put in cd or flash usb to offline pc to install same things?
[14:03] <zhouren> 1
[14:03] <zhouren> 2
[14:03] <zhouren> 3
[14:03] <zhouren> 4
[14:03] <zhouren> 5
[14:03] <zhouren> 6
[14:04] <Tm_T> zhouren: ok
[14:04] <zhouren> ............
[14:10] <jussi01> !offline | webas
[14:12] <murchadh> Webas: Aptitude install -d
[14:12] <webas> ah yes.. i got same help with -d only now i cant find where it saved
[14:13] <murchadh> webas: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[14:14] <ShaunR> How can I allow my user -rw access to another users account, for all future files? Chmod or Chown only does existent files, correct?
[14:14] <ShaunR> does it deal with "umask"or something
[14:15] <ubuntu__> hi, i'm trying to install kubuntu 8.10 but my menu.lst is empty (in fact there is only memtest)
[14:16] <hyper_ch> ShaunR: make him member of that other user's group
[14:16] <hyper_ch> ShaunR: and then set umask to give group write permissions
[14:17] <kevin> hello all... how can  I check to see if my computer  had recognized a new  web cam that I just plugged into a usb port? thanks!
[14:17] <hyper_ch> kevin: try to run it :)
[14:19] <ShaunR> hyber_ch: what do you mean, set umask to give group write permissions? If we're talking about the user i want to write to, it would be in it's own group, and would naturaly have -rw access to its own user space
[14:21] <hyper_ch> ShaunR: you need to make user2 also a member of he group of user1 and you need to set umask in such a way that new files will be created with group write access
[14:21] <ShaunR> hyber_ch: and user2 would be the one that wants to write to user1,correct?
[14:25] <kevin>  actually............I wanted to see if the pc would recognize the camera so I could search for the driver. I know that it  does not work on kopete
[14:26] <kevin> there is a terminal command to search for plugged in devices, at least I think there is, but I do not know what it si
[14:30] <jiang> hello everyone   i am coming....
[14:31] <jiang> is anybody here?
[14:32] <Tm_T> !anybody
[14:32] <ubuntu__> is kde 4.2 functional ?
[14:33] <Tm_T> ubuntu__: is here (:)
[14:33] <ubuntu__> ?
[14:33] <eagles0513875> its still beta
[14:33] <ubuntu__> but functionnal or not ?
[14:33] <eagles0513875> wont be released till january if im not mistaken
[14:33] <ubuntu__> lol
[14:34] <eagles0513875> i dont know
[14:34] <eagles0513875> im using stable 4.1.3
[14:34] <ubuntu__> because hardy, intrepid were stable in beta (for ubuntu)
[14:34] <eagles0513875> ubuntu__ i would ask in kde channel
[14:35] <eagles0513875> #kde
[14:35] <murchadh> kevin: lsusb
[14:35] <ubuntu__> ok
[14:38] <ShaunR> hyper_ch: ?
[14:47] <Mamarok> rniamo: if you want a pretty stable snapshot of kde 4.2, use kde-nightly
[14:47] <Mamarok> !neon | rniamo
[14:52] <webas> how to install same files in another pc..that i got from Aptitude install -d ?
[14:53] <kevin> lsusb...thanks
[14:55] <jiang_> #ubuntu-cn
[14:57] <Zehava> I installed compiz-fusuion, or attempted to, through adepts gui and now when I login I get black screen, the desktop flashes for a moment, then it's black.  How can I uninstall compiz and it's components from command line please
[14:58] <ryxxed> did you install all the dependencies?
[14:58] <JontheEchidna> sudo apt-get remove compiz
[14:58] <Zehava> ryxxed not sure if I got the dependencies or not, I used the package manager from teh gui, it installed what ever it selected.
[14:59] <Zehava> JontheEchidna trying that now
[14:59] <ryxxed> sudo apt-get install  compiz compizconfig-settings-manager  compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra  emerald librsvg2-common
[14:59] <ryxxed> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[15:01] <Zehava> testing ryxxed will have to restart in a few, but ther were many of those I didn't have yet
[15:01] <Zehava> how can I restart X from the console?
[15:01] <ryxxed> ctrl + alt + backspace
[15:01] <ryxxed> oh
[15:01] <ryxxed> wait, never mind
[15:01] <ShaunR> to start it I think it'sjust 'startx'
[15:01] <ShaunR> or something
[15:01] <DoubleD84> I'm having some issues with power management. More so the fact that my monitor turns off every 15 minutes. I'm running KDE 3.5.10 and I've been using kPowerSave but the settings don't seem to change anything. i've tried modifying the monitor time out in kcontrol under peripherals but it won't let me change it, even under administrator mode. Anyone have any ideas?
[15:02] <Zehava> it shows my login screen fine, shows loading up fine, then flashes the desktop for a quick moment and screen goes black
[15:03] <webas> you have radeon zehava ?
[15:03] <Zehava> nvidia  And everything on the vid has worked fine till I loaded compiz
[15:04] <Zehava> crud
[15:04] <ShaunR> To set it so every newly created file inside User 1 grants r/w/ex access to User2... Would I just ssh into User1 and then run 'umask 0000' to get permissions 777 on that entire userspace? I added User 2 to User1's group
[15:06] <BluesKaj> howdy
[15:12] <graczyk> o loo
[15:13] <Zehava> Okay, so installing all of that ryxxed, so I uninstalled all of it again and I still have a black desktop can't see anything
[15:14] <Zehava> I can see my mouse...it moves around fine, but it's like there's a black layer over the desktop it's self
[15:14] <ryxxed> well, it's not a dependancy issue then
[15:14] <ryxxed> maybe you messed up the gui
[15:14] <ryxxed> try reinstalling kde
[15:14] <Zehava> how do I go about doing that?
[15:14] <Zehava> I have kde4
[15:17] <michael_> how in the world do i get the wired network to stay connected when i first start kubuntu
[15:17] <Zehava> michael_ not sure, never had mine disconnect
[15:18] <michael_> well i have to tell the wireless network icon to go to wired everytime i log into kubuntu
[15:19] <michael_> and this something i don't care for, it should be connected the moment i log in without having to tell it
[15:19] <Soliloquial> what is the name of the kde window decorator?
[15:20] <michael_> i am using kubuntu 8.04 and the icon is knetwork manager
[15:20] <ShaunR> i thought it was just "Kde Window Decorator"
[15:20] <ShaunR> at least that's what the compiz-fusion icon says
[15:20] <Tm_T> Kwin
[15:20] <Tm_T> if you mean it
[15:21] <Soliloquial> yes, thank you
[15:21] <michael_> thats why i am not a linux user. its a nice operating system but it hate modems and sound cards
[15:21] <ShaunR> yeah but kwin is the window manager, they are not one in the same, are they?
[15:22] <ShaunR> michael_: more like the modems and soundcards hate it
[15:22] <hyper_ch> michael_: it's not that linux hates those things.. it's like hardware manufacturer don't like linux
[15:22] <michael_> some help this channel is. giving me all the specs but what the problem
[15:22] <lokys009> http://pastie.org/338865 any help???
[15:23] <michael_> there is no way i am going to use kubuntu 8.1 it won't even save my screen resolution. 800x600 at 85hz
[15:24] <michael_> its nice though i am not on dialup!!
[15:24] <michael_> its stupid for a stupid dialup modems, that runs very slow the manufacterurs won't release the source code for those modems
[15:25] <michael_> yet the network cards use the sam basic chips  alot of them do and everyone works with linux
[15:25] <eagles0513875> michael_ are you using a winmodem
[15:25] <michael_> no no!! thats the last resort.
[15:25] <webas> well..feel free to try mandriva or opensuse.. still its linux side..not windows :>
[15:25] <michael_> i am on dsl
[15:26] <michael_> so it converts to ethernet
[15:26] <michael_> if i was on dialup i would not be using no linux
[15:26] <michael_> because no linux that i tried support those old ancient things dialup modems
[15:27] <sali> why if i have downloaded 2 different flash players i still can't view flash objects?
[15:27] <michael_> the only problem i am having with kubuntu is geting the wired network to stay connected when i first log into kubuntu
[15:29] <michael_> i tried to going into network settings and telling it auto start when computer starts but still no help
[15:29] <michael_> manually have to tell knetwork manager that i am using wired not wireless.
[15:30] <Soliloquial> how can I stop compiz from trying to load at startup on kde?
[15:30] <hyper_ch> I prefer WICD over knetwork manager
[15:31] <michael_> well that is what starts with kubuntu by default when i installed it
[15:31] <michael_> i wouldn't need to use no network managers at all because before i installed kubuntu 8.04 it defaulted to wired by default
[15:32] <michael_> now since i installed 8.04 i have to manually connect it everytime.
[15:32] <michael_> other then that no crashes with kubuntu
[15:35] <michael_> would there be any suggestions for this network problem or not.
[15:36] <sali> how do i move files as a root?
[15:36] <cumulus007> sudo rm
[15:36] <michael_> you may want to start konqueror
[15:36] <sali> hmm
[15:37] <michael_> kdesudo konqueror if you are using kubuntu
[15:37] <michael_> alt f2 to bring up run command
[15:38] <michael_> be extremely careful when using this as root, because you can delete files needed to help linux run right
[15:38] <sali> ok
[15:39] <sali> the 3rd method helped me
[15:39] <michael_> you running kubuntu or ubuntu
[15:39] <sali> k
[15:39] <Mamarok> sali: don't move files as root elsewhere than in your home folder
[15:39] <Mamarok> else you might break your installation
[15:40] <michael_> i am running kubuntu because i like the kde interface, same thing as ubuntu
[15:41] <michael_> mamarok i had to move files as root, because there was so much junk starting so sometimes you don't have a choice
[15:41] <Mamarok> michael_: hm, I don't have junk around here, running all the cleanups regularily as cron jobs
[15:47] <k25> hi there, anyone from Poland?
[15:50] <ubuntu__> hello
[15:50] <ubuntu__> I was looking for the xorg.conf in kubuntu live cd
[15:50] <ubuntu__> I found a file
[15:50] <ubuntu__> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:50] <ubuntu__> but it's not it
[15:51] <ubuntu__> where is the real xorg configuration file?
[15:51] <michael_> you don't want to mess with that file xorg it is all auto controlled
[15:51] <dennister_> hey channel, flash is driving me nuts...anyone gota definitive fix?
[15:51] <michael_> what browser you running dennister
[15:52] <SeanTater> Since ubuntu had everything pre-configured with my wifi - how do I know what driver I'm using (I'd like to try ad-hoc for fun)
[15:53] <dennister_> firefox...new install for someone else...flashplugin-nonfree doesn't install because of 404 error; tried adobeflash 10, too, doesn't work, and yet synaptic says these 2 are installed
[15:53] <ubuntu__> michael_: autocontrolled? and how can I get the xorg.conf itself?
[15:53] <ubuntu__> I cannot?
[15:54] <kurumin> Opa
[15:55] <michael_> copy the flash file directly into firefo/plugins
[15:55] <webas> how to test if mysql works fine ?
[15:55] <michael_> wherever you installed firefox to
[15:56] <dennister_> michael_: at the moment, I've purged both; when I type in about:plugins in firefox the only mention of flash is in libtotem-basic-plugin.so
[15:56] <amerigo> hello
[15:57] <michael_> ok where is your plugin directory, i can manually send you the files necessary so that it will work right
[15:57] <michael_> kubntu or ubuntu never did bother to install the drivers for playing media files or flash
[15:57] <michael_> so i copied them from my old vector linux and walla
[15:57] <Tm_T> err
[15:57] <Tm_T> !mp3 | michael_
[15:57] <amerigo> I got a problem installing kubuntu 8.04 on an old PC (300Mhz) ... on this I can see USB port... what it means?
[15:58] <dennister_> michael_: I have no idea on this machine :) new install, and i'm so used to flash 9 working i've forgotten where the directory is
[15:58] <michael_> i know, thats why before i installed this new kubuntu and messing trying to locate the plugins i copied them
[15:58] <michael_> and put them back into firefox/plugins and walla
[15:58] <michael_> because it is a bitch trying to find those driverw
[15:59] <michael_> until you know where the plugin directory is i cannot help you no further.
[15:59] <michael_> on my kubuntu my firefox/plugins is /opt/firefox/plugins
[15:59] <michael_> because i manually installed it there.
[16:00] <Tm_T> michael_: why can't you do it thru package manager?
[16:00] <dennister_> michael_: k...perhaps /usr...i'll search :)
[16:00] <michael_> because trust me i reinstalled ubuntu and those drivers should be included but they aren't trust me
[16:00] <Tm_T> michael_: no
[16:00] <michael_> i tried the same thing to using package manger
[16:01] <michael_> so instead of pissing around i took a little action ahead of time, copy the freakin drivers to a usb flash drive
[16:01] <michael_> i can send you all those plugins but before i can you just need to find the plugins thats all.
[16:02] <michael_> trust me i been with linux for while and by default those plugins are a pain to install. and trying locate the driver, they want you to compile them yourself, no thank you
[16:03] <michael_> you will catch on what i am trying to say soon if you think about it.
[16:03] <michael_> if you the plugins i can send them to you direct but you will have to locate the plugins.
[16:04] <amerigo> I got a problem installing kubuntu 8.04 on an old PC (300Mhz) ... on this I can see USB port... what it means? Perhaps ... on /proc/bus/usb there's no presence of any usb devices...
[16:04] <amerigo> i had to install driver for them manually
[16:04] <amerigo> ???
[16:05] <amerigo> BIOS trouble?
[16:05] <amerigo> Driver missing....?
[16:05] <amerigo> Have some tips for me?
[16:06] <michael_> were you able to locate the plugins TM_T
[16:06] <webas> how to test if mysql works fine ?
[16:10] <olivier_> !fr
[16:11] <michael_> these are the plugins you need, put these in your plugins
[16:11] <michael_> no viruses because its linux not windows ehehe
[16:13] <michael_> i tried so no acceptence Tm screw it!!!
[16:15] <DexterLB> anybody home?
[16:16] <hyper_ch> no
[16:16] <michael_> .............................
[16:16] <DexterLB> I'm having a problem with kttsd
[16:16] <DexterLB> after porting to kde4 the filters don't work
[16:17] <DexterLB> anyone else have this bug?
[16:18] <dennister_> michael_: ok, the only mozilla plugins that are now installed (libjavaplugin.so) seem to be duplicated in /usr/lib/firefox and /usr/lib/mozilla...i do have an empty /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree directory...should i delete that empty directory?
[16:18] <DexterLB> grr
[16:18] <michael_> well i will send you the file and unzip these into your plugins and should have everything you need
[16:19] <michael_> i need to know are yo using firefox 3.04
[16:19] <michael_> or a older version
[16:19] <hyper_ch> dennister_: kubuntu-restricted-extra installed?
[16:19] <dennister_> michael_: yes, 3.04
[16:20] <michael_> let me guess you, used the apt get install or do a  manual install
[16:20] <michael_> only reason i am asking because i did a manual install and giving you the specs before i can send the files
[16:21] <michael_> because /usr/lib and /usr/mozilla relate to a old firefox.
[16:21] <ubuntu__> I was looking for the xorg.conf in kubuntu live cd... where is written? in which file? it's not in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:21] <dennister_> hyper_ch: actually, while i prefer kubuntu and this channel in particular, this new install is for a kid's xmas present, so it's ubuntu and edubuntu......firefox was therefore installed by default, and I've tried many ways of getting flash installed, apt-get, repositories, etc.
[16:22] <michael_> dennister could i make a simple suggestion, do a manual firefox 3.04
[16:22] <michael_> then i will give you the plugins and you don't have to mess around hunting.
[16:22] <dennister_> right now flash has been purged, and i was looking for support before i tried installing flash *again* for the 10th time
[16:22] <michael_> like install firefox to your home directory.
[16:23] <captainbraille> Hello, anyone else have a problem installing Amarok? I can't even get it to show up in my Adept list
[16:23] <michael_> i give up
[16:23] <dennister_> michael, so I should simply purge the default install of firefox?
[16:23] <michael_> go ahead
[16:23] <ubuntu__> I was looking for the xorg.conf in kubuntu live cd... where is written? in which file? it's not in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:23] <michael_> and get the orignal file from firefox.com
[16:24] <michael_> unzip it and install it into a directory of your choice.
[16:24] <michael_> dennister_ you know how to make a icon for it or not
[16:25] <dennister_> michael_: yes, i think i remember how to make an icon
[16:25] <dystopianray> is there an amarok 2.0 repo for 8.10?
[16:25] <michael_> ok :) don't worry you will be onyour way here soon dennister
[16:25] <michael_> just take it step at a time
[16:26] <hyper_ch> dennister_: did you install then ubuntu-restricted-extra?
[16:26] <rniamo> hi, i have no vmlinuz after an install from kubuntu iso
[16:26] <hyper_ch> dystopianray: there is
[16:26] <hyper_ch> dystopianray: wanna be bleeding edge amarok 2 or not so bleeding edge?
[16:26] <michael_> trust me hyper_ch i serach high and low for those plugins'
[16:27] <dystopianray> hyper_ch: what's the difference? nightly build vs. release build?
[16:27] <michael_> i simply copied them from my old linus and don't have to piss around hunting them or compiling
[16:27] <captainbraille> I tried "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main" from the Kubuntu site, but when I 'fetch current package list' it doesn't appear
[16:27] <hyper_ch> dystopianray: yes
[16:27] <dennister_> michael_: firefox has been uninstalled, although I'm sure there's still bits of it hanging around...
[16:27] <hyper_ch> michael_: flash is simple installed with ubuntu-restricted-extra and flashnonfreeplugin
[16:28] <dystopianray> hyper_ch: I think the release build will suffice
[16:28] <hyper_ch> dystopianray: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.0
[16:29] <dystopianray> hyper_ch: oh thanks, i was there earlier but didn't scroll down enough for the install instructions
[16:31] <jussi01> captainbraille: where did you put that deb line?
[16:32] <rniamo> where could i foind vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic
[16:32] <captainbraille> jussi01: 'edit software sources' clicked on 'Third-Party Software' tab, clicked on 'Add' and the box is checked
[16:35] <Mamarok> rniamo: you mean on your hard disk or in wich repository?
[16:37] <rniamo> Mamarok : on hard disk after installation
[16:38] <Mamarok> rniamo: in /boot
[16:39] <rniamo> Mamarok : yes
[16:40] <captainbraille> jussi01: do you need a gpg key for the repository?
[16:40] <rniamo> i have only : abi-2.6.27-7-generic     System.map-2.6.27-7-generic config-2.6.27-7-generic  vmcoreinfo-2.6.27-7-generic memtest86+.bin
[16:40] <agapito> quel'è la pagina in italiano?
[16:40] <Mamarok> rniamo: did you install it?
[16:40] <Mamarok> !it
[16:41] <rniamo> Mamarok : i've install kubuntu
[16:41] <rniamo> 8.10
[16:41] <Mamarok> agapito: ^^
[16:41] <Mamarok> rniamo: yes, but if you haven't installed that package you will not find it
[16:42] <rniamo> Mamarok : normally it's not a package
[16:42] <rniamo> it's installed by default
[16:42] <rniamo> in fact the problem is that grub doesn't find kubuntu
[16:43] <captainbraille> does anyone know how to install Amarok 2
[16:43] <hyper_ch> captainbraille: waht release?
[16:43] <Mamarok> captainbraille: what is your distro version?
[16:44] <Mamarok> rniamo: that's weird indeed
[16:44] <Mamarok> rniamo: try to reinstall that kernel
[16:44] <agapito> mamarok ^^
[16:44] <captainbraille> kubuntu 8.1 - kde 4.1.3 - and I'm trying to install Amarok 2 from the Latest news on Kubuntu.org
[16:45] <rniamo> mamarok : i tryed 3 times and now i have no mre cd :(
[16:45] <hyper_ch> captainbraille: what latest version?
[16:45] <Mamarok> rniamo: cd?
[16:46] <Mamarok> download it on your system I mean
[16:46] <rniamo> mamarok : i'm doing it
[16:46] <Mamarok> captainbraille: and what is your problem exactly?
[16:46] <captainbraille> On Kubuntu.org it says "Amarok 2.0 Released" and it gives some instructions and athis repo "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main" but when I Fetch current package list Amarok-kde4 doesn't appear in my list
[16:46] <Mamarok> rniamo: still don't understand your words: "now I have no more cd"
[16:47] <Tm_T> captainbraille: it's amarok
[16:47] <Tm_T> captainbraille: if I got it right
[16:47] <amerigo> bye
[16:47] <hyper_ch> captainbraille: and that's not the latest version
[16:47] <captainbraille> Tm_T: it's amarok?
[16:48] <captainbraille> hyper_ch: anything I should try then?
[16:48] <rniamo> mamarok : i burn all my cd
[16:48] <webas> anyone noticed this am..bug? no sound at all.but then i turn of pc..the turn-off melody plays normaly.. strange
[16:48] <hyper_ch> captainbraille: kubuntu 8.10 has no kde 3.x anymore
[16:48] <hyper_ch> captainbraille: so I think it's all amarok
[16:48] <Mamarok> rniamo: what has burning CD's to do with the location of a kernel on your system?
[16:48] <hyper_ch> captainbraille: well, there's the neon project that makes .debs from the nightly builds
[16:48] <hyper_ch> captainbraille: that would be more up-to-date than the one you intend to add
[16:49] <rniamo> mamarok : i can't burn another iso to try to reinstall it
[16:49] <hyper_ch> captainbraille: although the one you intend to add is already a lot more up-to-date than the one delivered with kubuntu 8.10
[16:49] <rniamo> mamarok : i'll try to reboot, see U
[16:49] <Mamarok> rniamo: does this system work?
[16:49] <rniamo> mamarok : no, it doesn't boot
[16:49] <Mamarok> rniamo: why not try to reinstall from one of the previous CD's? you don't have to burn the same ISO over again IMHO
[16:50] <captainbraille> so is it a problem with the repo?
[16:50] <hyper_ch> there is no problem
[16:50] <hyper_ch> just different versions
[16:50] <dystopianray> amarok can't find any collection plugins and won't start, what's up with this?
[16:50] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: don't suggest people to use svn if there is a stable 2.0 available please
[16:51] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: he said something about the latest version
[16:51] <Mamarok> dystopianray: what collection plugins are you talking about? what version of Amarok, distro?
[16:51] <Mamarok> captainbraille: you want to install 2.0, no?
[16:51] <dystopianray> Mamarok: 8.10, amarok 2.0 from the ppa repo
[16:51] <michael__> i was helping osmeone here
[16:51] <Mamarok> dystopianray: where do you get that error?
[16:51] <captainbraille> Mamarok: Yes, 2.0 the same as the News from the Kubuntu website
[16:52] <Mamarok> captainbraille: did you remove your current Amarok?
[16:52] <Mamarok> captainbraille: the previous 1.4.x I mean
[16:53] <dystopianray> Mamarok: in a dialog as soon as I try to start amarok
[16:53] <michael__> no one should install firefox using apt-get with firefox because flash will not work!!!!
[16:53] <captainbraille> Mamarok: no I did not remove my current Amarok. I didn't yet because when I refresh my Package list Amarok-kde4 doesn't appear in my list.
[16:53] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: the package name of Amarok 2.0 is amarok-kde4 FYI
[16:53] <dennister_> michael__: glad to see ur back :)
[16:53] <Mamarok> captainbraille: did you check your sources.list if correct?
[16:54] <dystopianray> do I only need to install the amarok-kde4 package or is there more to it?
[16:54] <Mamarok> dystopianray: did you bother to read the release notes?
[16:54] <dystopianray> Mamarok: yes
[16:54] <michael__> forget kde4 folks!!!
[16:54] <dystopianray> Mamarok: is there something i've missed?
[16:54] <michael__> it does not work worth the darn
[16:54] <captainbraille> I added "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main" to my Third-Party Software tab, and fetched new, but I have not checked my sources.list, how do I check that?
[16:55] <Mamarok> dystopianray: you need mysql to build a collection
[16:55] <dystopianray> Mamarok: err, no you don't
[16:55] <dystopianray> Mamarok: amarok 2.0 uses mysql embedded
[16:55]  * Mamarok is afk, brb
[16:57] <Mamarok> dystopianray: I know :)
[16:58] <dystopianray> is there a gpg key for the ppa repo?
[16:59] <jussi01> no
[16:59] <dystopianray> ok
[17:00] <Mamarok> captainbraille: are you sure your package list did refresh? sometimes mirrors are broken
[17:01] <dystopianray> ah I figured out my problem, I accidently had the hardy repo set for intrepid
[17:02] <captainbraille> It goes by fast, and it looked like it says "failed"  if it's a broken mirror, what should I try instead?
[17:02] <Mamarok> captainbraille: you use Adept?
[17:02] <captainbraille> Mamarok: I do use adept
[17:03] <Mamarok> try the main server: in the sources -> edit sources you can change on the lower right side
[17:04] <d_mitry> homie is back.
[17:04] <captainbraille> Mamarok: Alright, changed that, package list loading
[17:09] <captainbraille> Mamarok: Nothing, no package, thanks for the help though, =) Have a good day
[17:09] <Mamarok> hm, strange
[17:10]  * R2-AFK2 is away: Gone away for now
[17:11] <Mamarok> R2-AFK2: please deactivate your automatic away messages!
[17:19]  * rickus is back.
[17:19] <Mamarok> rickus: please deactivate your automatic away messages!
[17:21] <Bou> hello
[17:21] <Bou> i'm trying to build kdebase from trunk
[17:21] <Bou> but get an error saying that phonon is missing,
[17:22] <Bou> yet phonon is installed (built from kdesupport)
[17:22] <Bou> does someone have any clue about how to fix it?
[17:23] <Mamarok> Bou: you should ask on #kde-devel
[17:23] <Bou> ok thanks
[17:25] <mhall> OK I have almost got things set up right in KDE4 but it hasn't been easy. I am only missing two things now. First, Alt-F1 refuses to launch my app menu. Second my digital clock is too small and won't resize, and I can't figure out how to get my taskbar panel to be double height like KDE 3 was.
[17:26] <mhall> The Alt-F1 broken thing really drives me crazy
[17:27] <jussi01> mhall: try alt+f5
[17:27] <mhall> jussi01: echoes control chars to my konsole
[17:27] <mhall> thus i don't think it's assigned to anything
[17:27] <jussi01> mhall: hrm, works with lancelot in 4.2 here - it opens the main lancelot menu wherever the mouse is
[17:28] <mhall> what is lancelot?
[17:29] <jussi01> its an alternate menu
[17:29] <jussi01> !info plasmoid-lancelot
[17:30] <mhall> this sucks
[17:30] <mhall> i *really* need this to work
[17:31] <jussi01> mhall: try lancelot - its well worth it imho
[17:31] <Mamarok> mhall: works here
[17:32] <Mamarok> and I didn't have to tweak things at all
[17:33] <Mamarok> mhall: what version of KDE4 you talk about?
[17:33] <mhall> whatever shipped with intrepid
[17:34] <mhall> i think it worked at first then quit after i had perfected my plasmoid layout
[17:34] <mhall> now i can't figure out why it quit working
[17:34] <Mamarok> that will be 4.1.2 then, or did you update your system?
[17:34] <mhall> Mamarok: no funny business... just used standard stuff
[17:34] <Mamarok> mhall: well, you probably broke it yourself, as it works out of the box
[17:34] <mhall> Mamarok: although i'm willing to use another version if it's considered safe and better
[17:34] <mhall> Mamarok: maybe so but how do i unbreak it? ;-)
[17:34] <Mamarok> mhall: upgrade to 4.1.3
[17:35] <Mamarok> and I can't tell, don't know what else you tweaked :)
[17:35] <mhall> Mamarok: has some improvements?
[17:35] <Mamarok> or else, use kde-nightly, works best for me
[17:35] <mhall> Mamarok: what apt repo do i use to get it?
[17:35] <Mamarok> !neaon | mhall
[17:35] <Mamarok> !neon | mhall
[17:36] <mhall> and what do you do to get 4.1.3?
[17:36] <mhall> maybe i'll try that first since it's not a scary trunk release
[17:36] <Mamarok> mhall: check the kubuntu.org website
[17:36] <mhall> ok
[17:36] <jussi01> mhall: Id suggest you go to 4.2 in the experimental repo, as detailed on the kubuntu.org page
[17:37] <Mamarok> jussi01: bold move, kde 4.2 is not stable at all, plasma eats the CPU with big regularity
[17:38] <Mamarok> mhall: if you need a productive setup, don't use 4.2 other than with the neon packages
[17:38] <jussi01> Mamarok: curious, Im running it here with minimal issues. however, it is totally up to him of course.
[17:38] <mhall> yeah i don't want anything which eats CPU... this is a laptop install
[17:38] <mhall> it's a beefy laptop but i don't want to toast the batteries
[17:38] <jussi01> mhall: if it is a production machine, really keep to the official stuff - 4.1.3
[17:39] <mhall> jussi01: nah not production
[17:39] <mhall> jussi01: i have like three laptops
[17:39] <jussi01> mhall: ok then. Im running 4.2 from the experimental repos with minimal probs on my lappy here. take that howeever you like ;)
[17:40] <mhall> interesting... it appears i have 4.1.3 already
[17:40] <mhall> probably because i have the backports repo available
[17:40] <jussi01> mhall: yeah, 4.1.3 is in backports
[17:40] <zoran> hello all :) I want to sync my iphone with ubuntu 8.04 with no luck. I tried gtkpod with no succsess. Can someone help?
[17:40] <zoran> want to connect via usb
[17:41] <mhall> let me trying moving aside my KDE dir
[17:41] <jussi01> zoran: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[17:42] <michael__> kubuntu and ubuntu still won't install those plugins by default what is the deal????
[17:43] <jussi01> michael__: which plugins?
[17:43] <michael__> for firefox
[17:43] <jussi01> michael__: again, which plugins?
[17:43] <michael__> thats ok i got them from my old linux install and copied them directly and walla
[17:43] <michael__> plugins like adobe flash and mplayer
[17:44] <Adola> E: The package kubxtra needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[17:44] <Adola> Can someone please help me with this?!
[17:44] <jussi01> michael__: install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package
[17:44] <michael__> so seems like they want me to compile the mplayer plugin
[17:45] <zoran> yes. but the link to jailbraking doesnt work. Im stuck. can someone help?
[17:46] <jussi01> zoran: I cant help, but a quick google search on "jailbreak iphone" reveals some good stuff ;)
[17:46] <michael__> no thats ok , ubuntu has been a pain so i copied them directly and walla no problem
[17:46] <Guest71602> is 4.2 alot faster than 4.1?
[17:46] <zoran> okay, thanks!
[17:47] <Adola> Can someone please help me with thsi?!/
[17:47] <Mamarok> Adola: with what?
[17:47] <Adola>  E: The package kubxtra needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[17:47] <Adola> I can't install anything untill this is fixed.
[17:47] <Mamarok> hm, you must have misstyped something there
[17:48] <Mamarok> you mean kubuntu-extras?
[17:48] <Adola> No.
[17:48] <stdin> Adola: you need to remove the package then
[17:48] <Adola> How?
[17:48] <stdin> with dpkg
[17:48] <stdin> sudo dpkg --remove kubxtra
[17:49]  * Mamarok wonders what package that would be, never heard of
[17:49] <Adola> sudo dpkg --remove kubxtra
[17:49] <Adola> Sorry
[17:49] <Adola> dpkg: error processing kubxtra (--remove):
[17:49] <Adola>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[17:49] <Adola>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[17:49] <Adola> (I got it from kde-apps.org.
[17:49] <Mamarok> Adola: then
[17:50] <Adola> yes mamarok?
[17:51] <Mamarok> try reinstalling it from kde-apps..org, or do you have a package locally
[17:51] <Mamarok> ?
[17:51] <Adola> I have it locally
[17:51] <eagles0513875> hi Adola and Mamarok
[17:51] <Mamarok> sry, keys sometimes stuck
[17:51] <stdin> Adola: so reinstall it
[17:51] <Mamarok> hi eagles0513875
[17:51] <Adola> Ok.
[17:52] <Mamarok> hm, sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite locationPathOfKubxtra
[17:52] <Adola> I did, and, GDeb crahes everytime
[17:52] <stdin> don't use gdebi, use dpkg
[17:52] <zer0o> hi guys: everytime i rename a file in a folder with other files the all folder kind of flicks a bit and it takes 2 seconds to make all the files re-appear, plus it starts back from the top of the folder and it's annoying cuz then i have to scroll down till the renamed file to rename the next one, is there a way to avoid that? how does it work? thanks
[17:52] <Adola> I'm not sure where kubxtra would be.
[17:52] <Mamarok> Adola: you might have to retrieve another copy then, maybe something went wrong when you downloaded it
[17:53] <Adola> Ok.  i'll try again
[17:53] <Mamarok> zer0o: could you say this again, but easier? what package did you use for renaming? Command line?
[17:54] <ncfi1013> what is an iso
[17:54] <Adola> http://code.google.com/p/kubxtra/
[17:54] <tacidsky> !iso
[17:54] <tacidsky> Is there a way to fix a problem I have in KDE4.1 that when ever I restart my computer, my Widgets reset.
[17:54] <Mamarok> ncfi1013: an image you use to burn a CD
[17:54] <Adola> It still crashes
[17:54] <zer0o> Mamarok: simply Dolphin
[17:54] <Mamarok> Adola: could you give me the link to that package?
[17:54] <mrpistol> wassup
[17:55] <Adola> http://code.google.com/p/kubxtra/
[17:55] <mrpistol> long live ubuntu 8.10 mofokas!!
[17:55] <mrpistol> perfect deskop
[17:55] <ncfi1013> mamarok how do you use it to burn a disc
[17:55] <Mamarok> ncfi1013: with a burning tool like k3b
[17:55] <tacidsky> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/03/15/how-to-burn-an-iso-image-in-3-clicks-cd-or-dvd/
[17:55] <Adola> I am running Intrepid if that counts.
[17:56] <stdin> Adola: how are you trying to install it?
[17:56] <Adola> I double clicked it.
[17:56] <Adola> And, I tried dpkg.
[17:56] <stdin> use dpkg.
[17:56] <Adola> And that failed
[17:56] <ncfi1013> mamarok i have that. do i unpack it or something? i have never used an iso.
[17:56] <stdin> what dpkg command did you use?
[17:56] <mrpistol> i made touch screen and fingerprint reader work with HP TX1420CA :)
[17:56] <Adola> sudo dpkg -i
[17:56] <Mamarok> Adola: there are instructions on that website, why not follow them?
[17:56] <Adola> I did.
[17:57] <Guest71602> stdin: dam were have you been hiding:)
[17:57] <mrpistol> anyone owns a Tablet pc from HP??
[17:57] <Mamarok> ncfi1013: no, what do you want to do with this iso? do you habe k3b installed?
[17:57] <stdin> Adola: try "sudo dpkg --force-all -i /path/to/the.deb"
[17:57] <Guest71602> mrpistol: write a help page @ help.ubuntu.com
[17:58] <Adola> ok.
[17:58] <Adola> So.
[17:58] <Adola> I would put.
[17:59] <Adola> "sudo dpkg --force-all -i /home/adam/kubextra984523745.deb
[17:59] <Guest71602> isnt kubxtra a really dodgy package to use?
[17:59] <stdin> mrpistol: open K3B from KMenu -> Multimedia -> K3b and choose Tools -> Burn ... Image (either "CD" or "DVD ISO"
[17:59] <ncfi1013> first download it, then burn it to disc. i saw the link that tacidsky posted and it is so much easier than i anticipated. thanks guys.
[17:59] <stdin> Adola: yes, try that
[18:00] <Mamarok> ncfi1013: you need to run k3b, then choose "burn CD image"
[18:00] <Mamarok> stdin: you are adressing the wrong person I fear :)
[18:00] <ncfi1013> yes i have k3b installed mamarok
[18:00] <zer0o> Mamarok: i use Dolphin
[18:00] <mrpistol> LONG LIVE HP TX1420CA WITH UBUNTU 8.10 :)
[18:00] <stdin> Mamarok: so I see :p
[18:01] <Guest71602> mrpistol: did it work after installing just the os?
[18:01] <Mamarok> zer0o: hm, still did not understand what your problem is, could you rephrase it please?
[18:01] <ncfi1013> mamarok that's after i've downloaded it?
[18:01] <Mamarok> ncfi1013: well, yes, an iso is only usefull to make CDs or DVDs :)
[18:01] <Adola> dpkg: error processing /home/adam/kubxtra-8.04-7-hardy.i386.deb (--install):
[18:01] <Adola>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[18:01] <Adola> Errors were encountered while processing:
[18:01] <Adola>  /home/adam/kubxtra-8.04-7-hardy.i386.deb
[18:01] <Adola> adam@adam-desktop:~$
[18:03] <ncfi1013> where in k3b is 'burn cd image' located mamarok?
[18:03] <Adola> What is the command to show the files in the folder in the terminal?
[18:03] <Mamarok> Adola: I'm not sure that this package will be of much use, installing the kubuntu-extras with Adept would have been easier I think
[18:03] <Mamarok> ncfi1013: look at the buttons at the bottom
[18:03] <ncfi1013> nevermind found it
[18:03] <DaSkreech> Adola: ls
[18:03] <Adola> mamarok: yeah, I agree  But, I just need to get rid of it now so I can do ANYTHING.
[18:03] <Guest71602> Adola: that happens if there is a "%" in the file name
[18:04] <ncfi1013> all of my buttons are at the top mamarok
[18:04] <Mamarok> ncfi1013: ok, just a different version of k3b then, works the same way :)
[18:04] <Adola> adam@adam-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-all -i /home/adam/kubxtra-8.04-7-hardy.i386(2).deb
[18:04] <Adola> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[18:04] <Adola> WHY DOES UBUNTU HATE ME.
[18:04] <Mamarok> Adola: no, it doesn't :)
[18:05] <zer0o> Mamarok: i want to rename some files in a folder right? so I open this folder with Dolphin, click on a file, rename it. After pressing "enter" to rename it, all the files in the folder flick a bit, and then desappear for about 2 secs. When they re-appear, i'm not in the same spot of that folder (where was the file i renamed) but im back to the top, so i have to scroll down till that renamed file to rename the next one after it... and it's
[18:05] <zer0o> annoying! In WinXp when you rename a file and press enter it's done in less than one sec and the folder doesn't move back to the top, the selection remain on that file so that you can easily select the one right undearneath it and rename it if you want, got it now?
[18:05] <ncfi1013> ok thanks mamarok, tacidsky
[18:05] <Mamarok> you just shouldn't install things form the outside :)
[18:05] <DaSkreech> Adola: What are you trying to do?
[18:05] <tacidsky> ncfi1013, no problem
[18:05] <stdin> Adola: use quotes: sudo dpkg --force-all -i "/home/adam/kubxtra-8.04-7-hardy.i386(2).deb"
[18:05] <Adola> Just remove this kubxtra package
[18:05] <Mamarok> zer0o: well, this is not XP as you can see ;)
[18:06] <ncfi1013> what color are you when i type your names, tacidsky, mamarok?
[18:06] <ncfi1013> mines red
[18:06] <DaSkreech> zer0o: Known bug It's fixed already
[18:06] <zer0o> Mamarok: yes but apparently XP was better
[18:06] <Mamarok> zer0o: just tried to rename a file with my Dolphine, it worked without flickering, might be related to your version?
[18:06] <Mamarok> zer0o: no, not better, different maybe
[18:06] <tacidsky> ew konversation ncfi1013 ? Use Xchat :) and i am red
[18:06] <zer0o> DaSkreech: tell me about it please
[18:06] <Adola> .....
[18:07] <DaSkreech> zer0o: It works fine here. I'm on KDE 4.2
[18:07] <zer0o> Mamarok: then i have to fix that bug DaSkreech is talking about :D
[18:07] <zer0o> im on kde3
[18:07] <DaSkreech> zer0o: It's fixed already
[18:07] <zer0o> on kde3?
[18:07] <DaSkreech> zer0o: Oh Dear :) umm maybe next release
[18:07] <Mamarok> zer0o: well, that's the problem, we mostly are using kde4 here... and there it's fixed
[18:07] <Adola> It didn't work.
[18:07] <DaSkreech> tacidsky: What's ewww about konversation ?
[18:07] <Mamarok> Adola: just remove the package?
[18:07] <zer0o> DaSkreech: what distro are you using?
[18:07] <Adola> adam@adam-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-all -i /home/adam/kubxtra-8.04-7-hardy.i386(2).deb
[18:07] <Adola> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[18:07] <DaSkreech> zer0o: Kubuntu
[18:08] <Adola> dpkg: unknown option -/