[00:04] <xnox> barry, yes i am afk. And ev that's a really long post =)
[00:05]  * xnox googles for IRC logs to EPUB converter.....
[14:52] <bdrung> !dmb-ping
[14:52] <bdrung> meeting in 8 minutes
[14:52] <Laney> yes google reminded me
[15:01] <barry> !dmb-ping
[15:02] <bdrung> o/
[15:02] <barry> ScottK is scheduled to chair, but since i'm next up, i'll do it if he's not around
[15:02] <barry> (and if we have quorum ;)
[15:03] <stgraber> I'm sort of around
[15:03] <tumbleweed> o/
[15:03] <stgraber> (likely to disappear in a few minutes and can't really type much)
[15:04] <Laney> do we have anything to meet about anyway?
[15:05] <Laney> you all saw the TB proposal is in
[15:05]  * ScottK is here now
[15:05] <barry> Laney: no applicants, so may be not.
[15:06] <ScottK> # startmeeting
[15:06] <bdrung> ScottK: no space
[15:06] <ScottK> #startmeeting
[15:06] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Jul 29 15:06:29 2013 UTC.  The chair is ScottK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:07] <ScottK> #topic PPU changes
[15:07] <ScottK> Seems like the TB discussion is going fine.
[15:07] <ScottK> Anyone have comments in it?
[15:08] <Laney> nope, seems alright to me
[15:09] <ScottK> OK.
[15:09]  * ScottK moves on.
[15:09] <ScottK> # AOB
[15:09] <ScottK> #topic AOB
[15:09] <ScottK> Anyone got anything else?
[15:09] <stgraber> nope
[15:09] <barry> please consider the sweetshark revote.  i'd still like to conduct this in 2 days, so let us know if you need more information
[15:10] <tumbleweed> I expect we're mostly waiting for more information from bdrung
[15:10] <ScottK> Yes.  It seemed like the feedback was a little general.
[15:11] <bdrung> you were CCed on all recent communication with him.
[15:11]  * ScottK doesn't recall seeing any.
[15:11] <barry> please follow up to that thread
[15:11] <ScottK> Let's take it to email.
[15:11] <ScottK> Anything else?
[15:12] <bdrung> (just three mails for the [initial] libreoffice 4.1 review)
[15:12] <ScottK> OK
[15:12] <ScottK> #endmeeting
[15:12] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Jul 29 15:12:28 2013 UTC.
[15:12] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-07-29-15.06.moin.txt
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[15:12] <bdrung> (which reminds me to finish it)
[15:12] <barry> cheers
[15:12] <ScottK> And you get 48 minutes of your day back ...
[15:13] <Laney> thanks
[16:32] <mdeslaur> \o
[16:32] <tyhicks> hello
[16:32] <jjohansen> \o
[16:32]  * sbeattie waves
[16:33] <chrisccoulson> o/
[16:33]  * jdstrand is here (but laggy)
[16:34] <sarnold> hello
[16:34] <mdeslaur> #startmeeting
[16:34] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Jul 29 16:34:11 2013 UTC.  The chair is mdeslaur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:34] <mdeslaur> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[16:34] <mdeslaur> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[16:34] <mdeslaur> [TOPIC] Announcements
[16:34] <mdeslaur> thanks to Felix Geyer (debfx) for his help on security updates for the community supported baz package last week.
[16:34] <mdeslaur> thanks to Luke Faraone (lfaraone) for his help on security updates for the community supported openafs package last week.
[16:34] <mdeslaur> Your work is very much appreciated and will keep Ubuntu users secure. Great job! :)
[16:34] <mdeslaur> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[16:34] <mdeslaur> jdstrand: want to try going first?
[16:35] <mdeslaur> lag lag lag lag
[16:35] <mdeslaur> jdstrand: time's up, you lose
[16:35] <mdeslaur> So, I'm in the happy place this week
[16:35] <chrisccoulson> pub?
[16:35] <mdeslaur> I'll be heading out to Lost Wages for black hat
[16:35] <mdeslaur> so I'll be offline most of the time
[16:36] <mdeslaur> and today I'm preparing my travel laptop
[16:36] <mdeslaur> that's it from me
[16:36] <mdeslaur> sbeattie: you're up
[16:36] <jdstrand> I can go now
[16:36] <sbeattie> jdstrand: go ahead
[16:36] <jdstrand> I'm on triage
[16:36] <jdstrand> I have a couple of pending updates that I will be getting to
[16:37] <jdstrand> I patch piloted last week, but now up for it again
[16:37] <jdstrand> people are sprinting in IoM, so I will be doing things surrounding that (ie, attending remotely)
[16:37] <jdstrand> I have several audits to get to
[16:37] <jdstrand> and also monthly planning
[16:38] <jdstrand> mdeslaur, sbeattie: if you guys can email what you have for an initial set of perms, I'll try to play with those this week too
[16:38] <jdstrand> ..
[16:38] <sbeattie> jdstrand: will do
[16:38] <sbeattie> I'm in some combination of the happy place and apparmor this week
[16:38] <sbeattie> I'll also be at black hat with mdeslaur
[16:39] <sbeattie> and then next week I'm on holiday
[16:39] <sbeattie> I need to do some travel prep today as well as a couple of apparmor ubuntu-sdk things (the perms things jdstrand mentioned place a couple more fixes to the click-apparmor hook)
[16:40] <sbeattie> and that's it for me. tyhicks?
[16:41] <jdstrand> sbeattie: ping me for uploading click-apparmor to saucy-- though I will probably wait til after the demo to do it
[16:41] <sbeattie> jdstrand: yeah, that's fine.
[16:41] <tyhicks> I'm going through the dbus and apparmor patches, cleaning them up if necessary, sending them upstream and then making sure that they are in good shape for uploading to saucy
[16:41] <jdstrand> (unless the fixes are really important for the demo)
[16:42] <tyhicks> I'm through all of the tough patches, so I plan on having everything on the list and updated dbus and apparmor packages landed in saucy this week
[16:42] <mdeslaur> nice!
[16:42] <tyhicks> I'm still trying to get to my content-hub work items. I think that'll happen towards the end of the week.
[16:42] <tyhicks> I think that's it for me
[16:42] <tyhicks> jjohansen: you're up
[16:43] <jjohansen> I've got a saucy-unstable (3.11-rc3) kernel apparmor sync to test, and issue a pull request for
[16:43] <jjohansen> the apparmor fs pull-request for 3.12 to send upstream (this is the new interface with rcu and all the fs changes going upstream, and gets us sync up to the in dev labeling patches)
[16:43] <jjohansen> I'll take a look at the latest apparmor dbus patches so we can get them merged, and merge those against my own patchset so I can get a second revision of those out
[16:43] <jjohansen> then I'll get to my regular apparmor work items for the week
[16:46] <jjohansen> that is it for me sarnold your up
[16:46] <sarnold> I'm on community this week; up first is patch review of tyhicks's latest bundle, then onto MIR audits, and I'm again hopeful for getting perhaps two or three done this week, always the optimist in the face of facts.. :)
[16:47] <sarnold> oh yes, and once again, if sbeattie and I get some free time at the same time, apparmor 2.8.2, but again, since nothing is blocking on that, it .. might fall through the cracks again.
[16:47] <mdeslaur> hehe
[16:47] <sarnold> chrisccoulson: your turn
[16:47] <chrisccoulson> yo
[16:48] <chrisccoulson> so, last week we had a discussion with stakeholders about oxide
[16:48] <chrisccoulson> i managed to get it working too :)
[16:48] <mdeslaur> \o/
[16:48] <sarnold> woo :)
[16:48] <chrisccoulson> (not sure if everyone saw the video)
[16:48] <chrisccoulson> had an interesting discussion about requirements for online-accounts as well
[16:49] <chrisccoulson> this week, i shall be mostly working on the same (and getting firefox beta up-to-date, which i've let slip a little bit the last couple of weeks)
[16:50] <chrisccoulson> (firefox 23 release is next week)
[16:50] <chrisccoulson> that's me done
[16:50] <mdeslaur> cool
[16:50] <mdeslaur> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[16:50] <mdeslaur> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[16:50] <mdeslaur> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[16:50] <mdeslaur> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/feh.html
[16:50] <mdeslaur> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/pyrad.html
[16:50] <mdeslaur> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/phppgadmin.html
[16:50] <mdeslaur> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/php-openid.html
[16:50] <mdeslaur> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/mednafen.html
[16:50] <mdeslaur> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[16:50] <mdeslaur> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[16:51] <mdeslaur> zzzz
[16:51] <mdeslaur> Thanks everyone!
[16:51] <mdeslaur> #endmeeting
[16:51] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Jul 29 16:51:28 2013 UTC.
[16:51] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-07-29-16.34.moin.txt
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[16:51] <sarnold> thanks mdeslaur :)
[16:51] <jdstrand> thanks mdeslaur :)
[16:52] <sbeattie> thanks mdeslaur


[12:34] <AlanBell> anyone tried the accessible install options in Natty yet?
[12:34] <Pendulum> AlanBell: I think charlie-tca has been testing them
[12:35] <AlanBell> I am downloading the daily live CD iso at the moment to give it a go
[16:25] <cprofitt> hey Pendulum
[16:26] <Pendulum> hi cprofitt
[16:26] <cprofitt> going to try to review the links this week -- sorry for the delay
[16:51] <Pendulum> cprofitt: no worries
[17:07] <cprofitt> thanks Pendulum
[19:46] <charlie-tca> another win - It looks like we should now have the screen-reader install in the alternate natty images
[19:46] <charlie-tca> bug 672929
[19:46] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 672929 in accerciser "accerciser segfaults when the mouse rollover the treeview on the left" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/672929
[19:46] <charlie-tca> no
[19:47] <charlie-tca> bug 672699
[19:47] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 672699 in debian-installer "screen-reader does not work " [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/672699
[19:49] <charlie-tca> now if we could use onboard to search for apps in natty...
[19:51] <charlie-tca> not sure, but it looks like unity will not allow use of Onboard :-(
[19:55] <charlie-tca> um, dasher also can not be used to search for apps in unity.
[20:48] <Pendulum> charlie-tca: in other words people who can't use a keyboard are screwed currently?
[20:50] <charlie-tca> yup
[20:50] <charlie-tca> You can actually run about 8 apps
[20:51] <Pendulum> does dasher work within the apps and is one of them a terminal?
[20:52] <charlie-tca> yes, dasher and onboard work once the app starts. Terminal can be raised with Ctrl+Alt+t
[20:52] <charlie-tca> but no, it is not a default launcher
[20:52] <Pendulum> so actually can't get to a terminal if you can't type
[20:52] <charlie-tca> right
[20:54] <charlie-tca> Pendulum: there is a way to find the terminal with the mouse only
[20:55] <Pendulum> so that might work
[20:55] <Pendulum> (in fact, should work)
[20:55] <charlie-tca> You just have to work at it. It is a very non-intuitive system
[20:55] <Pendulum> as a work around for installing things?
[20:55] <charlie-tca> you bring up terminal and use apt-get to install?
[20:56] <Pendulum> yeah, that's what I was thinking of
[20:56] <Pendulum> not a great option
[20:56] <charlie-tca> yeah
[21:12] <hajour> hai all


 @NickTh, Thanks :D
 @julienlavergne I think we should move to lximage-qt on the ISO.
 @julienlavergne Would you be opposed to me sending you an MP? Upstream LXQt support lximage-qt but not nomacs...
[01:57] <wxl> @tsimonq2: do we still have a bug preventing encryption from working correctly? like it fails to install GRUB? if so, i think we need to make that a priority to figure out.
 @wxl, I'm not sure.
[02:03] <wxl> @tsimonq2: bug 1659448 affected us in zesty. it looks fixed, but i'm not sure we actually did the work to double check.
 @wxl, ack
[08:04] <lubot6> DarthVad3r was added by: DarthVad3r
 @DarthVad3r, Welcome!
 @Schyken, Thanks
 o/ @DarthVad3r
 @tsimonq2, Last time I checked, nomacs was far better than lximage-qt


[16:46] <telaviv_> I'm having a weird issue with java applets in firefox. Every time i go to a site with an applet, it asks if i want to add it to my whitelist. Is there anyway to disable this functionality?


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[10:46] <gtriderxc> can any1 help me please with  #
[10:46] <gtriderxc> # “software-center” source package
[10:46] <gtriderxc> # Template “software-center”
[10:47] <gtriderxc> "Add %s to the launcher?"
[10:47] <gtriderxc> can find this string
[10:48] <gtriderxc> it is new in a soft center. i can't translate it cause don't know its exact meaning
[10:52] <damascene> maybe it's the startup place or the replacement of gnome toolbar
[10:53] <damascene> where you add that program so it's icon appear there. I'm just guessing
[11:01] <artnay> gtriderxc: that would be Unity's "dock"
[11:01] <artnay> afaik
[11:03] <artnay> I don't know if it has any other name than "the launcher"
[11:13] <damascene> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/unity-launcher-looks-gorgeous-ubuntu.html
[11:13] <damascene> http://design.canonical.com/2010/06/introduction-to-unity-launcher/
[11:14] <gtriderxc> yes but
[11:14] <gtriderxc> looking at links
[11:15] <gtriderxc> ok
[11:15] <gtriderxc> now semms i get it
[11:15] <gtriderxc> launchers are on  this side bar on the left
[11:16] <gtriderxc> Launcher is a very hard word to translate in Polish
[11:21] <damascene> same in Arabic
[11:21] <gtriderxc> in polish launching a program is informal language. formal is to ~~switch on. but one can not say a switch when talking about
[11:21] <gtriderxc> a porgram
[11:22] <damascene> in Arabic it's closer to release or open
[11:23] <gtriderxc> in Polish to launch mean same as launching a rocket
[11:23] <gtriderxc> and we can launch a program but only informal
[11:24] <damascene> we the same but it does not sound right when you say launch a program in Arabic
[11:24] <damascene> it's better to say open. run
[11:25] <gtriderxc> we are also firing programs in polish:)
[11:25] <gtriderxc> we fire a program:0
[11:25] <damascene> we don't use that language :)
[11:26] <damascene> eventually it will burn :)
[11:26] <gtriderxc> :)
[11:27] <gtriderxc> would be great cause i have -2  C outside
[11:29] <damascene> that explains
[11:33] <trijntje> hmm, my firefox just reverted to english on maverick, anybody else experiencing this?
[11:35] <gtriderxc> by us in Poland everything is alright
[11:44] <trijntje> weird, well, lets just hope it will go away by itself ;)
[11:44] <gtriderxc> it's not weird
[11:44] <gtriderxc> and it won't go by itself just like that:/
[11:44] <gtriderxc> it is regression:/
[11:45] <andrejz> hello! has anyone uploaded a .po file with untrasnlated strings to launchpad  and the unstranslated strings appeared as empty (but translated strings)
[11:45] <gtriderxc> have You got proposed updates checked?
[11:46] <gtriderxc> I do not use po files. dont trust them:)
[11:46] <trijntje> gtriderxc, yes I have
[11:46] <gtriderxc> then such things can happen:)
[11:47] <gtriderxc> and there is a slight of chance that it will repair by itself
[11:47] <gtriderxc> if not, contact dpm on monday
[11:47] <trijntje> where should I rapport this so someone can take a look at it?
[11:48] <gtriderxc> hard to say cause firefox is developede outside launchpad though regressions are rather ubuntu's fault
[11:48] <gtriderxc> I would use a mailing list
[11:49] <artnay> trijntje: what is the language that you use?
[11:50] <trijntje> dutch(nl)
[11:50] <artnay> trijntje: and is your system lucid/maverick?
[11:50] <trijntje> maverick
[11:50] <artnay> trijntje: there's been problems with firefox's langpacks in proposed (at least with two languages)
[11:51] <artnay> but those problems resulted firefox not to work at all
[11:51] <gtriderxc> ain't TLE also translating Dutch?
[11:51] <andrejz> no TLE iz danish
[11:51] <gtriderxc> ok sorry:)
[11:52] <artnay> trijntje: please talk to dpm when he's online
[11:53] <trijntje> artnay, firefox is running fine, its just in English. btw, I have both -nl and -en langpacks enabled, maybe that's why I can still run firefox?
[11:53] <artnay> trijntje: english should be installed no matter what
[11:54] <artnay> trijntje: see about:config in firefox
[11:54] <artnay> search for useragent.locale
[11:54] <artnay> what's the value?
[11:55] <artnay> well that's at least what I see (using FX4B12)
[11:55] <trijntje> artnay, where should I search for that?
[11:56] <artnay> trijntje: type into address field about:config and press enter
[11:56] <artnay> then it should give a warning, just click "yeah whateva" ...
[11:57] <artnay> and after that you should be able to search for useragent.locale
[11:57] <artnay> I have "fi" as the value since I'm using Finnish langpacks
[11:58] <trijntje> en-US
[11:58] <artnay> trijntje: try value nl and see if it works
[11:59] <artnay> maybe it's a buggy update or some extension has changed the value or basically anything might have happened...
[12:01] <artnay> trijntje: did the language change to en-US after langpack updates?
[12:02] <artnay> or could something else have caused the change?
[12:03] <trijntje> artnay, changeing it to nl and restarting firefox makes no difference
[14:43] <damascene> why all the links goes to mavrick?
[14:43] <damascene> launchpad & wiki?
[14:43] <gtriderxc> what do You mean by "all the links"?
[14:45] <damascene> I mean like this https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/computer-janitor
[14:45] <damascene> and what does "edge" mean
[14:47] <gtriderxc> no idea myself
[14:47] <gtriderxc> but i think it is that way cause they can not leads You to 10.04 anymore
[14:48] <gtriderxc> should they?
[14:49] <damascene> I just wonder when the next release come. they will have to change all the links
[14:50] <damascene> can some one translate launchpad Rosetta?
[14:50] <gtriderxc> they will have to release one update:)
[14:50] <gtriderxc> ?
[14:50] <gtriderxc> you men the website itself?
[14:50] <damascene> like this string in launchpad (no translation yet)
[14:50] <gtriderxc> *mean
[14:50] <damascene> yes
[14:51] <gtriderxc> never wondered about it
[14:51] <gtriderxc> but once at the bottom of the page
[14:51] <gtriderxc> i used some link to ask if the color of the page couldn't be changed
[14:51] <gtriderxc> cause the white background drives me up the wall
[14:52] <damascene> :)
[14:54] <trijntje> gtriderxc, you can always use super+n
[14:54] <gtriderxc> ?
[14:55] <trijntje> if you are running compiz that inverts all colours in the current window
[14:56] <gtriderxc> the launchpad folks pointed me also some plugin for Firefox which is able to change the css of each site
[14:56] <gtriderxc> for example my google isn't white anymore
[14:59] <gtriderxc> the plugin is called STYLISH if someone 'd B intrested
[15:13] <trijntje> thats also a cool trick, maybe ill look into that some time
[17:43] <gtriderxc> any1 knows what a pairing record is?
[17:44] <gtriderxc> "There is no Ubuntu One pairing record."
[17:59] <gtriderxc> TomaszD jesteś?
[18:11] <TomaszD> gtriderxc, teraz tak
[18:11] <gtriderxc> a miałem zagwodkę ale pochodzilem po kanalacj i mi ludzie pomogli :)
[18:11] <TomaszD> a, no to dobrze
[18:11] <gtriderxc> *zagwozdke
[18:11] <gtriderxc> wyskoczył mi jakis pairing record
[18:12] <gtriderxc> i nie mialem pojecia jak to ugryzc