[02:53] <cyphermox> Mirv: in case you wonder and don't see my email, disk is full on jenkins, so it's not starting jobs for now. I tried to ping the required people and sent emails.
[03:49] <Mirv> cyphermox: wow. I wonder if there anything we could clean up.
[04:17] <Mirv> not much, it seems
[05:54] <slomo> tjaalton: i meant a bug at bugzilla.gnome.org :) anyway, i can't test that stream... i only get "can't connect to destination" immediately
[06:11] <tjaalton> slomo: ah, well I can find another one
[06:12] <tjaalton> slomo: http://bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r1.asx
[06:15] <slomo> tjaalton: ah, mms. thanks
[07:21] <sil2100> Morning!
[07:21] <sil2100> Mirv: do we still have the problem you mentioned in the e-mail?
[07:24] <sil2100> Mirv: I'll re-run QA just in case to see what's the status
[07:25] <sil2100> Mirv: right... it seems broken now ;/
[07:25] <Mirv> sil2100: yes, there are the disconnections still
[07:26] <sil2100> Mirv: I'll try launching the daily-release-executor
[07:26] <sil2100> Mirv: since it seems to be down and we can't do more than 2 things at once
[07:27]  * sil2100 sighs
[07:28] <Mirv> sil2100: yeah. how do you launch that, I didn't know and waited for plars to possibly restore that too?
[07:29] <sil2100> Mirv: wanted to do that myself but it doesn't seem in my powers, so I'll poke someone in #qa as well
[07:30] <sil2100> Mirv: it saddens me that all those problems appear now that we need to have the process working top-notch
[07:30] <Mirv> sil2100: try pinging plars in case he's still there
[08:24] <slomo> tjaalton: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708010
[08:24] <ubot2`> Gnome bug 708010 in gst-plugins-ugly "asfdemux: add support dvr-ms files" [Blocker,New]
[08:29] <tjaalton> slomo: ooh, thanks
[08:31] <tjaalton> linked to it from the lp bug
[10:19] <slomo> tjaalton: did it work in 1.0.x?
[10:20] <slomo> tjaalton: oh nevermind, of course it did
[10:30] <tjaalton> yup
[12:50] <pitti> Good morning
[14:27] <sil2100> cyphermox: hi!
[14:28] <cyphermox> sil2100: hey
[14:29] <sil2100> cyphermox: did you poke jibel about the view on jenkins?
[14:29] <sil2100> cyphermox: since I still don't see Saucy on jenkins
[14:29] <jibel> sil2100, yes he did but didn't have time to do it at the moment
[14:30] <cyphermox> right
[14:30] <jibel> cyphermox, is there someone on the ci team that could help with this, I'll explain how to do it, it is not rocket science
[14:30] <jibel> ?
[14:30] <cyphermox> jibel: do you have time to look at tis now?
[14:30] <cyphermox> jibel: I will come see you
[14:30] <jibel> cyphermox, I'm in a meeting
[14:31] <cyphermox> ok
[14:31] <cyphermox> jibel: then in a half-hour?
[14:55] <sil2100> fginther: hi!
[14:55] <sil2100> fginther: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/add_new_click_projects/+merge/185521 <- could you take a look and setup a merger for those?
[14:56] <didrocks> sil2100: hey, please don't run anything btw
[14:56] <sil2100> kenvandine: hi! How is your workload today? Could you take a look and check if all is ok? https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/clickmanager-plugin/first_packaging/+merge/185476
[14:56] <sil2100> didrocks: ACK
[14:56] <didrocks> sil2100: we are trying to run manually indicators as well as webapps
[14:56] <sil2100> didrocks: you guys taking care of indicators?
[14:56] <didrocks> hope everything's find
[14:56] <sil2100> o>
[14:56] <didrocks> and process them
[14:56] <sil2100> Aye aye
[14:57] <sil2100> cyphermox, jibel: yay, the saucy view on jenkins starts appearing \o/ Thanks guys
[14:58] <fginther> sil2100, approved, should have them deployed in the next 15 minutes
[14:59] <sil2100> fginther: thanks!
[14:59] <sil2100> didrocks, fginther: btw. I would need a PPA with armhf enabled to push a test package build - do you know what PPA I could use now?
[15:00] <fginther> sil2100, ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/testing?
[15:01] <sil2100> Thanks :)
[15:09] <jibel> sil2100, done, sending an RT to do the same on puclib instance
[15:09] <jibel> public
[15:10] <sil2100> \o/
[15:16] <kenvandine> sil2100, sure, in just a few minutes
[15:17]  * kenvandine is about to push a branch of content-hub that mostly works with confined apps :)
[15:19] <sil2100> kenvandine: \o/ Awesooomeee
[15:28] <kenvandine> sil2100, don't get too excited... i still need to implement the store part, which actually gives the requesting app the content in a location it has access too :)
[15:28] <kenvandine> but it's getting damn close to being "1.0" ready :)
[15:33] <jbicha> chrisccoulson: could you review the patch at bug 1195367?
[15:33] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1195367 in ubufox (Ubuntu) "Firefox about:home doesn't work right when set with ubuntu-defaults-builder" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1195367
[15:34] <sil2100> kenvandine: I updated that branch in the meantime, fixing some qmake things
[15:50] <mterry> robru, poke about tests for qt*
[17:17] <sil2100> kenvandine: will you have a moment to sponsor a new package version for meh?
[17:17] <sil2100> kenvandine: thanks for the review btw.!
[17:28] <sil2100> kenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/ubuntu/saucy/grilo/saucy-cherry-pick/+merge/185554 <- ;)
[17:32] <kenvandine> sil2100, sure
[17:33] <sil2100> kenvandine: big thank you! I guess the merge is unnecessary, but oh well
[17:33] <kenvandine> sil2100, no worries, it makes it easy :)
[17:37] <kenvandine> sil2100, uploaded
[17:38] <sil2100> kenvandine: yay :D
[17:38] <sil2100> Thank you!
[17:39] <kenvandine> sil2100, np
[17:39] <kenvandine> sil2100, what's the status of the touch image?  are we in a state where we can look at publishing content-hub?
[17:40] <sil2100> kenvandine: didrocks didn't update me on anything, so I guess it's still 'do-not-touch' ;p
[17:41] <cyphermox> sil2100: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/cupstream2distro-config/add-indicators-test-packages/+merge/185555 ?
[17:42] <cyphermox> kenvandine: indeed, we don't publish anything -- just stuff that is strictly asked for by asac, basically
[17:43] <cyphermox> the automatic builds are disabled, too
[17:43] <sil2100> cyphermox: approved!
[17:43] <cyphermox> sil2100: thanks
[17:43] <kenvandine> asac, what's the status?  Are we in a state where we could publish content-hub?
[17:48] <didrocks> yeah, DNT
[17:48] <didrocks> Do No Touch ;)
[17:48] <sil2100> ;p
[17:48] <cyphermox> hehee
[17:49] <kenvandine> ok... the code is stacking up there :)
[17:49]  * kenvandine is working on the content store now so confined apps can access the data :)
[17:50] <cyphermox> didrocks: shortly we should be able to restart indicators just for the check part
[17:50] <cyphermox> stuff is still building though :(
[17:50] <didrocks> cyphermox: you can kill the build jenkins job
[17:51] <didrocks> cyphermox: and just restart, it will monitor again
[17:51] <cyphermox> ah, ok then
[17:51] <didrocks> it's stateful ;)
[17:51] <cyphermox> we're just waiting for amd64
[17:52] <cyphermox> kill webapps too?
[17:54] <asac> kenvandine: content-hub was landed yesterday
[17:55] <asac> so... not sure what you want :)
[17:55] <asac> kenvandine: can you tell me which apps are using content hub?
[17:55] <kenvandine> humm... version in the archive is a bit old
[17:55] <kenvandine> ubuntu-system-settings and gallery-app
[17:55] <asac> kenvandine: unity8 doesnt use this?
[17:56] <kenvandine> nope
[17:56] <kenvandine> gallery-app has a MP failing CI too because it doesn't have the latest
[17:57] <kenvandine> asac, ah, the seed for it landed
[17:57] <kenvandine> i still need the package published
[17:57] <asac> kenvandine: so can we run the current gallery-app autopilot on top of it and it will succeed?
[17:58] <kenvandine> yup
[17:58] <kenvandine> well, afaik :)
[17:58] <kenvandine> gusch has handled the gallery-app part
[17:58] <kenvandine> but he has a branch pending that is failing CI because content-hub is too old
[17:59] <kenvandine> asac, i also have several branches pending review... so quite a bit of stuff will be ready to land next week
[18:00] <kenvandine> including persistent peer registry, confined apps work and sdk component
[18:01] <asac> kenvandine: so good news is that we believe we can parallelie everything that has proper autopilot tests and goes through CI starting mid next week
[18:01] <kenvandine> great
[18:02] <kenvandine> asac, should i list all the content-hub features that are landing soon on your spread's ask worksheet?
[18:02] <asac> kenvandine: can you ensure that your content-hub thing is in the landing doc
[18:02] <kenvandine> spreadsheet rather
[18:02] <kenvandine> will do
[18:05] <robru> mterry, did you get the tests running?
[18:06] <kenvandine> asac, i don't have edit perms on that
[18:10] <asac> kenvandine: check with your lead
[18:10] <asac> i think that was in the email, no?
[18:13] <kenvandine> probably
[18:50] <fginther> cyphermox, or kenvandine, can you review? https://code.launchpad.net/~fginther/cupstream2distro-config/update-autopilot-ppas/+merge/185569
[18:55] <kenvandine> fginther, are you sure about landing for saucy with raring?
[18:59] <fginther> kenvandine, right the saucy source trunk gets pushed into the ppa for raring and the t-series gets pushed into the ppa for saucy. This provides a cheap way to get the latest autopilot bits from the prior series
[19:01] <kenvandine> ok
[19:48] <didrocks> robru: FYI, that won't work: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/job/cu2d-webapp-saucy-3.0publish/1/artifact/packaging_changes_unity-webapps-youtube_2.4.16+13.10.20130913-0ubuntu1.diff
[19:48] <didrocks> look at other packages, you need in debian/rules with --migrations
[19:48] <robru> didrocks, yes, we added that in webapps-applications
[19:48] <robru> didrocks, remember, because rules.mk is centralised
[19:49] <didrocks> (and same on others)
[19:49] <didrocks> hum, I doubt that the file is shipped in the binary then
[19:49] <didrocks> ah
[19:49] <didrocks> ok
[19:49] <didrocks> got you
[19:49] <didrocks> I hope it was done in 2 stages
[19:49] <didrocks> with bumped build-dep
[19:49] <robru> didrocks, yeah, minor bootstrapping issue there, webapps-applications needs to be released first
[19:49] <didrocks> I think it's a little bit too late ;)
[19:49] <didrocks> the build-dep needed to be bumped
[19:50] <robru> alex-abreu, ^^ looks like you forgot to bump the build dep for that migrations trick
[19:50] <robru> alex-abreu, or rather, *we* forgot, since I reviewed it ;-)
[19:50] <alex-abreu> :)
[19:51] <robru> didrocks, so will this sort itself out? or are the webapps going to block on this until we bump the versions
[19:51] <robru> ?
[19:51] <didrocks> robru: no, please bump the build-dep
[19:51] <didrocks> I won't release that one
[19:51] <didrocks> and you lost your slot for today
[19:51] <robru> didrocks, crap
[19:51] <robru> didrocks, so no matter what this is blocked until monday
[19:51] <alex-abreu> robru, argh,
[19:51] <robru> ?
[19:51] <didrocks> robru: 5 hours to build?
[19:52] <didrocks> so too late for today
[19:52] <alex-abreu> robru, ok le's schedule that for monday
[19:52] <robru> didrocks, don't look at me, it does not take 5 hours. webapps stack usually builds in 20 mins or so. something is seriously broken if it takes 5 hours
[19:52] <didrocks> alex-abreu: it needs to be in trunk for Monday
[19:52] <didrocks> robru: launchpad took 5h today
[19:52] <didrocks> I spent my whole time on it
[19:52] <robru> alex-abreu, ok, I am on my way to lunch, will handle the build deps when i get back
[19:53] <alex-abreu> didrocks, why in trunk for monday?
[19:53] <didrocks> alex-abreu: otherwise, I won't release on Monday
[19:53] <didrocks> and it will probably be in a later slot
[19:53] <cyphermox> moo?
[19:54] <alex-abreu> robru, ok
[19:57] <didrocks> alex-abreu: ask your manager to edit https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au6idq7TkpUUdGNWb0tTVmJLVzFZd0doV3dVOGpWemc#gid=0 once it's fixed
[19:57] <didrocks> adding a comment that the build-dep is fixed
[21:01] <robru> alex-abreu, https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/webapps-applications/migrations-version-bump/+merge/185599 step one ;-)
[21:02] <alex-abreu> +1
[21:02] <alex-abreu> I should have thought about bumping the ver :/
[21:02] <robru> alex-abreu, it's ok, i forgot too.
[21:03] <robru> alex-abreu, next I will change all the debian/controls to require 2.4.17
[21:22] <robru> alex-abreu, didn't bother with MP for such a trivial change: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~webapps/unity-webapps-bbcnews/trunk/revision/52 (identical diff for all other webapps too)
[21:25] <robru> alex-abreu, so what was that about informing your manager? who even is your manager these days? pat?
[21:45] <alex-abreu> robru, david barth
[21:45] <alex-abreu> robru, +1 for the change


[00:14] <elky> Pfft, it's not like he should be jetlagged or anything
[01:59] <txwikinger> maybe not him, but a lot of other people are
[02:08] <h00k> jussi: tell everyone h00k from the Internet says hi!
[02:10] <funkyHat> Liar, you're not from the internet
[02:11] <h00k> funkyHat: well, maybe they'll be more accepting from a stranger that claims that, anyway.
[03:15] <Flannel> IRC mailing list brings up some good points.  We should just move all lucid support to -lucid, so the releases with buttons on the right (the bulk of them) can still get support without any overhead.
[03:16] <genii> the LTS thread?
[03:16] <Flannel> genii: Yeah
[03:20] <IdleOne> i don't think #ubuntu can handle more redirecting. it will turn into a waiting room of sorts. User: long well thought out question Helper: oh wait you need to join -lucid
[03:20] <maco> for when an LTS becomes the *previous* LTS i think it makes sense
[03:21] <Flannel> IdleOne: That was sarcasm.  I don't think we need one for -lts either, I've seen plenty of LTS support (hardy, dapper) in #ubuntu, as well as all the other releases.
[03:21] <maco> like lucid is the current one so whatever keep it in #ubuntu, but hardy... pffft um... that one had er...it maybe had a FUSA? or maybe not? and um it had policykit...i think? and er...no software center...
[03:21] <Flannel> Yeah, stuff changes, there's plenty of resources out there for the helpers to refresh their memory when needed.
[03:21] <IdleOne> Flannel: oh hehe, didn't catch the sarcasm :)
[03:22] <Flannel> Just like *I* google for things when I don't know them while helping someone.  Just because I don
[03:22] <Flannel> blah
[03:22] <Flannel> Just like *I* google for things when I don't know them while helping someone.  Just because I don't know foo doesn't mean I can't help with it.  Likewise, just because I didn't use foo-in-hardy doesn't mean I can't help with it.
[03:24] <Flannel> maco: With regard to internals that may be more difficult to find on your own, you can always ask the helpee questions that help the helper help.
[03:25] <maco> though im actually odd on this one. i cant help people using anything more recent than hardy as it was the last gnome release i used
[03:25] <maco> and im pretty sure that yes to fusa and policykit
[03:25] <maco> i often end up going "bah! it was there last time i used this ....where did they go and move it...grrr..."
[03:39] <IdleOne> can we add the alias !drugs to !sex factoid please
[03:42] <Flannel> !drugs
[03:42] <Flannel> IdleOne: for the record, that's an alias, so you don't need to type it all out ;)
[03:42] <IdleOne> :P
[03:43] <IdleOne> I used the magic of ctrl-c and ctrl-v
[03:43] <IdleOne> :P
[03:43] <IdleOne> and thank you for adding it
[04:06]  * myrl will be right back.
[04:08]  * myrl is back.
[04:10] <Flannel> myrl: Do you know why you were banned in -ot?
[04:10] <myrl> i think i do
[04:10] <myrl> i was saying random stuff
[04:11] <myrl> but i didnt know it was bad...
[04:11] <Flannel> Thats more or less accurate.
[04:12] <myrl> yes.....
[04:12] <Flannel> myrl: Why didn't the assortment of people asking you to stop inform you that it was frowned upon?
[04:12] <myrl> well i dont really know....
[04:12] <myrl> but ive learned my lesson now
[04:13] <myrl> ive been banned for about a month and now i plead to be unbanned
[04:13] <Flannel> myrl: Alright.  You understand that we don't have these channels so that you can make noise, right?  They're for actual conversations and participation and stuff.
[04:13] <myrl> yes
[04:14] <Flannel> myrl: Good.  Will you please take some time now and read our IRC guidelines, that way we won't have any of these misunderstandings in the future.
[04:14] <myrl> sure
[04:14] <Flannel> It shouldn't take very long: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[04:14] <myrl> ok thanks
[04:15] <Flannel> myrl: Let me know when you're finished and you understand them, take as long as you'd like.  And feel free to ask questions if you have any points of confusion or need clarification
[04:15] <myrl> :) sure
[04:17] <myrl> ok ive read them. they seem pretty simple: dont do annoying things ;)
[04:17] <IdleOne> on top of be polite, don't discuss illegal activities and try not to be a jerk.
[04:17] <IdleOne> :)
[04:18] <myrl> :) yea
[04:18] <myrl> of course
[04:19] <Flannel> myrl: Sounds good.  I've removed your ban in -ot, please join and speak so I can verify that I've done it properly.  I look forward to having you as a member of that channel.
[04:20] <myrl> :) thank you so much
[04:20] <myrl> um it says that i still cannot join
[04:20] <Flannel> #ubuntu-offtopic?
[04:20] <Flannel> alright, let me look
[04:20] <myrl> yes
[04:21] <Flannel> myrl: Alright, try again.
[04:21] <myrl> ;)
[04:21] <myrl> cool now i can
[04:22] <IdleOne> what one little letter can do
[04:22] <Flannel> myrl: Right, I forgot a letter previously.
[04:22] <Flannel> IdleOne: I'm not sure how copy/paste meant I lost a letter, but whatever.
[04:22] <myrl> lol
[04:22] <Flannel> myrl: Is there anything else I can do for you tonight?
[04:22] <IdleOne> Flannel: happens
[04:22] <myrl> no im fine
[04:22] <myrl> thanks!!
[04:22] <myrl> bye
[04:22] <Flannel> Bye myrl
[04:23]  * myrl waves
[04:34] <h00k> I don't find this very friendly: AllYourBases<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:36] <IdleOne> maybe they sell nuts for a living?
[05:57] <mneptok> dark stellar matter would use like .00000000000003 of a molecule to weigh 40oz.
[05:57] <mneptok> so the vanity domain really tells us nothing except "you should probably wear a truss."
[08:17] <Flannel> I'm curious as to why he came back as Jamz
[08:17] <Flannel> (over webchat)
[10:32] <jetienne> the bot "!controls" suggest a kludge in a corner to get back the theme. while installing a real theme seems much cleaner and possible "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9204643" here describe how to do it. could you modify the bot command to point to a doc on theme installation instead ?
[10:39] <ikonia> lets see
[10:39] <ikonia> !controls
[10:42] <ikonia> sorry that forum post is just how to install a theme
[10:42] <ikonia> I don't see how that's a fix, that's just installing a different theme
[10:44] <jetienne_> ikonia: still cleaner that gconf right ?
[10:45] <jetienne_> ikonia: and modifying the line in the bot, is no work at all
[10:56] <jetienne_> ikonia: ?
[10:57] <ikonia> no
[10:57] <ikonia> it's not cleaner
[10:57] <ikonia> its just applying a different theme
[10:57] <ikonia> the gconf tweak actually changes the configuration correctly
[10:58] <jetienne_> ikonia: what about adding the link as opssible alternative in the bot message ?
[10:59] <ikonia> because it's not an alternative or fix
[10:59] <ikonia> it's just installing a theme, which is well covered in many other factoids to do with look and feel
[10:59] <jetienne_> ikonia: well this is what #ubuntu helper are giving to the user.
[11:00] <jetienne_> ikonia: this is just a few charateres in a string
[11:00] <ikonia> what is ?
[11:00] <jetienne_> ikonia: pointing the users to a solution which provide a alternative which may satisfy them
[11:00] <jetienne_> ikonia: it is all about user satisfactions, no ?
[11:00] <ikonia> it's not an alternative
[11:01] <ikonia> it's just installing a theme
[11:01] <ikonia> installing any theme you want is covered in the look and feel documentation, this is not a fix, this is telling someone to install a specific theme to fix something that is not a bug
[11:01] <jetienne_> an alternative theme
[11:01] <ikonia> installing themes is covered in the look and feel information
[11:01] <ikonia> !themes
[11:02] <Tm_T> jetienne_: alternative theme has nothing to do with windo controls
[11:02] <jetienne_> ikonia: but this is not what #ubuntu user are given
[11:02] <ikonia> jetienne_: then correct them
[11:02] <ikonia> offer better advice
[11:02] <jetienne_> ikonia: oh i got a possibility. what about adding " if you wish to change the theme, use the !themes command" ?
[11:03] <ikonia> no
[11:03] <jetienne_> ikonia: this is pointing to the proper documentation
[11:03] <ikonia> there is no need
[11:03] <ikonia> !themes points at the proper documentation
[11:03] <ikonia> oops
[11:03] <jetienne_> ikonia: yep but not the #ubuntu users
[11:03] <ikonia> then you point them at it
[11:03] <jetienne_> im trying to now
[11:04] <ikonia> you offer the better advice
[11:04] <ikonia> ok, it's simple "!themes | usersname"
[11:04] <ikonia> then tell them why, however, I don't feel installing themes is a "fix" for this at all
[11:05] <jetienne_> ikonia: lets not argue on the words. lets say "action which satisfy users" instead
[11:05] <Tm_T> jetienne_: you forget that ikonia is also an user (:
[11:05] <jetienne_> Tm_T: not the only one tho
[11:05] <Tm_T> sure
[11:05] <Tm_T> but I have to agree with him, changing theme has nothing to do with controls arrangement
[11:06] <Tm_T> they are two separate issues, and has to be dealt accordingly
[11:06] <jetienne_> Tm_T: yep but #ubuntu helpers got the bad habit to provide !controls to people willing to change back the themes
[11:06] <jetienne_> Tm_T: just trying to make it easy for ubuntu users to be satisfied
[11:06] <ikonia> "!controls" is the correct advice to give
[11:07] <ikonia> or use !themes to tell them to change the theme
[11:07] <jetienne_> ikonia: im just trying to make it easy to satisfy ubuntu user
[11:07] <Tm_T> jetienne_: then it's their mistake and has to be corrected, changing factoid for their bad habits just makes factoids to be something else than FACT-oids (:
[11:07] <ikonia> it's already easy
[11:08] <ikonia> there are two factoids for different uses, call the correct factoid depending on the users needs
[11:08] <jetienne_> Tm_T: adding "(if you wish to change the theme use !themes)" is a fact and a didactic one.
[11:08] <ikonia> changing the theme is not a fix
[11:08] <ikonia> so you're miss-leading pepole
[11:08] <ikonia> people
[11:08] <ikonia> offer the correct factoid depending on peoples needs
[11:08] <jetienne_> Tm_T: teaching user is important too
[11:08] <Tm_T> jetienne_: sure, but also irrelevant, as changing theme shouldn't affect the control arrangement
[11:08] <jetienne_> ikonia: i dont talk about fix but user satisfaction
[11:09] <ikonia> jetienne_: then you are wrong - you are miss-leading users information
[11:09] <ikonia> Tm_T: some do, as you can hardcode it into a theme
[11:09] <ikonia> Tm_T: but you're right - they shouldn't as it's not reall complient
[11:09] <Tm_T> ikonia: ...and that's also baad baad habit which shouldn't be supported
[11:09] <ikonia> Tm_T: agreed
[11:13] <jetienne__> and as you can imagine, i considere changing an habit of 20y for no apparent reason, is ... i dunno ... madness ? i dont get it. before it was large, easy to click button on the right, and now this is small, hard to click button on the left. I think at least reason should be given.marc "because we may add stuff on the right later" is not convincing to say the least.
[11:13] <jetienne__> sorry to repeat if you already got it. This was "for the record". and once again. thanks for listening to me
[11:14] <Tm_T> jetienne__: thank you for taking care of factoids, appreciate it
[11:17] <ikonia> input is always welcome
[12:57] <Tm_T> hi kikim, how can we help you?
[13:32] <Tm_T> jrib: you silly
[13:32] <jrib> Tm_T: I know, what did I do now?
[13:33] <Tm_T> jrib: in -meta
[13:46] <Tm_T> !ubotu
[13:48] <Tm_T> !msn
[13:48] <Tm_T> that's outdated ^
[13:48] <Pici> then fix it :P
[13:49] <Tm_T> I don't know about empathy
[13:50] <IdleOne> So this ubuntu video that is going around is this some sort of official 10.10 launch video?
[13:50] <IdleOne> s/launch/introduction
[13:55] <Mamarok> IdleOne: what video?
[13:56] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: do you have a link?
[13:56] <IdleOne> Mamarok: there is a video featuring a few people who have Ubuntu tattoos and a whole bunch of *buntu logos and such
[13:56] <IdleOne> gnomefreak: don't have a link I did save it to my computer though
[13:57] <IdleOne> let me see if I can post it somewhere real quick
[13:57] <gnomefreak> thanks
[14:00] <IdleOne> gonna take a little bit of time to upload
[14:03] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: take your time
[14:03] <h00k> NO GO NOW
[14:04] <IdleOne> err it looks like, ugh on youtube
[15:25] <jussi> IdleOne: its from Marks keynote
[15:25] <IdleOne> really
[15:25] <IdleOne> wow
[15:25] <IdleOne> cool
[15:25] <jussi> yup
[15:25] <IdleOne> i didn't see it
[15:26] <IdleOne> I mean I saw the video but WOW I got featured at UDS :) so I guess I did attend
[15:26] <IdleOne> the keynote I haven't seen that is
[15:29] <jussi> IdleOne: :D
[15:30] <IdleOne> man flash is acting stupid for me
[15:30] <IdleOne> not man flash
[15:30] <IdleOne> but oh, man :(
[15:34]  * IdleOne feels like a superstar
[17:23] <h00k> I don't find this appropriate:( 11:23 ::: signoff/#ubuntu tPl0ch (Quit: My balls are itching, need a wash...)
[17:24] <gnomefreak> its not
[17:33] <IdleOne> and way tmi
[17:33] <maco> ew
[18:45] <Newb`s> bonjour
[18:45] <Newb`s> je voudrais me plaindre concernant l'agissement d'un utilisateur
[18:45] <Newb`s> qui s'est amusé à balancer des données personnelles me concernant sur offtopic
[18:46] <Newb`s> de 19:30 à 19:35/38 environ, son pseudonyme est nosco
[18:47] <Newb`s> oops, sorry, forgot the -fr in the channel name
[18:47] <Newb`s> :(
[18:47] <Pici> behind me?!
[21:05] <erUSUL> nevermind that last thing. brain fart in my part. sorry for the noise.
[23:27] <erUSUL> can someone take a look to shuttleworth in #ubuntu ....
[23:27] <erUSUL> anyone*
[23:29] <h00k> sure
[23:30] <erUSUL> tyvm
[23:30] <erUSUL> night all
[23:30] <h00k> aaand too late.


[09:15] <DJones> Can somebody with good factoid knowledge change !party from !Trusty to !Utopic
[09:15] <DJones> !party
[09:15] <DJones> Plus last link needs to be http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2919/
[09:19] <DJones> I'm assuming it probably needs to be "Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Utopic release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2919/"
[09:21] <DJones> !party is <reply> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Utopic release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2919/
[09:21] <DJones> !party is <reply> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Utopic release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2919/
[09:22] <DJones> At this point, I'm not sure how to get the change to complete
[09:23] <valorie> !party
[09:23] <valorie> boo
[09:24] <DJones> Think I've got it
[09:24] <DJones> !party is <reply> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Utopic release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2919/
[09:25] <DJones> !no party is <reply> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Utopic release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2919/
[09:25] <DJones> !party
[09:25] <valorie> weeeee
 spaztik: not officially release yet. Please consider changing your nick to something less offensive
[16:34] <Pici> ??
[16:35] <DJones> I can see where thats coming from, "spaz" used to be a slang/offensive term for somebody who was disabled
[16:35] <DJones> Not really heard anymore though
[16:36] <DJones> Effectively a shortened version of "spastic"
[16:39] <DJones> Certainly in the UK, the "Spastic society" changed their name because it was considered offensive
[18:35] <Pici> !outyet
[18:35] <Pici> rww: thanks
[18:37] <rww> !vivid
[18:37] <DJones> Must be pub time for the dev's
[18:37] <rww> !-vivid
[18:37] <rww> !find utopic
[18:37] <rww> derp
[18:37] <rww> !search utopic
[18:38] <rww> !schedule-#ubuntu-release-party
[18:38] <rww> !-schedule-#ubuntu-release-party
[18:38] <rww> !forget schedule-#ubuntu-release-party
[18:38] <rww> !party
[18:39] <rww> bot configs need updating, i think we're good apart from that?
[18:42] <Pici> yep
[19:41] <genii> !ke
[19:42] <genii> Hm.
[19:42] <Pici> ke?
[19:43] <genii> Pici: In -release-party Symmetria said "if thats slow, http://ke.releases.ubuntu.com has it and loads of bandwidth available :)"
[19:43] <genii> Just curious if it was a country code
[19:44] <Pici> kenya I think'
[20:12] <Finrod> Since being banned from two ubuntu channels on August 12, I have sent six emails to the ubuntu-irc-council, and I have not received any response from the council since the middle of August, regarding those bans
[20:13] <Pici> Finrod: I will draft a reply later today or tomorrow. We have all been very busy and have provided many responses to you.
[20:14] <Finrod> One of the ubuntu ops told me my email may be getting automatically rejected, so I stopped sending emails from my Yahoo account, and started sending them using my Hotmail account, but I have still not received any responses from the council since mid August
[20:15] <Finrod> I have been checking my junk folders, too, and I have still not seen any emails from the ubuntu council
[20:16] <Finrod> I have also tried chatting with the council in the #ubuntu-irc-council channel, but I have got no responses there
[20:16] <Pici> You will have something by the end of today.
[22:05] <k1l> ah, ubottu runs the 14.10 update reboot :)
[23:58] <MosesEX> bazhang, nooo waaa
[23:58] <MosesEX> rww,  nooo waaa
[23:58] <MosesEX> ban me
[23:58] <MosesEX> nooo waaaa


[17:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop amd64 [Focal 20.04.6] has been marked as ready


[12:28] <Mithrandir> tepsipakki: 90169> I thought we fixed that with the previous mesa upload?
[12:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92010 in xorg (main) "nvidia-legacy only offer low resolution" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92010
[12:50] <tepsipakki> Mithrandir: you mean the one paul sladen uploaded?
[12:51] <tepsipakki> this is different
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88740 in xorg (main) "No support for ATI x1400" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88740
[12:53] <Mithrandir> tepsipakki: ok.
[12:54] <tepsipakki> but I didn't include them in the fixed -3ubuntu2
[12:56] <Mithrandir> ok, so we might want a -3ubuntu3 with that patch in?
[12:57] <tepsipakki> yes we might, do you want me to prepare one?
[12:57] <tepsipakki> new xorg-server is there
[12:57] <tepsipakki> with debdiff
[12:57] <tepsipakki> I'm running it atm
[01:10] <tepsipakki> ok, new mesa in that webfolder
[01:13] <Mithrandir> ok, so new mesa, new xorg-server?
[01:13] <tepsipakki> yes
[01:13] <tepsipakki> if they look ok to you
[01:14] <Mithrandir> the new mesa fixes the buildability as well as the second life black window?
[01:14] <Mithrandir> and xorg-server fixes the memory leak?
[01:14] <tepsipakki> xorg-server has an old patch re-enabled, it might fix some of the performance regressions some have seen with composition managers
[01:14] <tepsipakki> yes and yes
[01:15] <Mithrandir> ok, cool.
[01:15] <Mithrandir> I'll take a look at it and upload.
[01:16] <Mithrandir> thanks a lot for your efforts.
[01:16] <tepsipakki> about that xorg-patch; it still seems to be useful since the compmanagers don't seem to handle bg=none properly
[01:16] <Mithrandir> ok
[01:16] <tepsipakki> and fedora still has it with 1.3rc
[01:16] <tepsipakki> oh and xresprobe
[01:17] <tepsipakki> don't forget that one :)
[01:17] <tepsipakki> it limits the autoprobing to vesa
[01:17] <Mithrandir> yup, goodie
[01:19] <tepsipakki> I found one case where it fails, though; autoprobing uses the best driver it can get, so if discover1 doesn't have the card mapped to a driver, autoprobing knows which driver to use
[01:19] <tepsipakki> but the impact is minimal
[01:20] <tepsipakki> only affects laptops (since others use ddcprobe) etc
[01:20] <tepsipakki> I'll see how to fix that
[01:21] <tepsipakki> ..hopefully soon enough before the beta
[01:21] <tepsipakki> or, we could just patch discover-data to be uptodate, like before :)
[01:22] <tepsipakki> when we found it to be lacking some
[01:22] <Mithrandir> hm, ok
[01:22] <tepsipakki> anyway, bedtime... thanks! ->
[01:22] <Mithrandir> see you around.
[01:23] <tepsipakki> you too, good night <zzzz>
[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #93041 in xorg (main) "Xorg failes to start on sparc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/93041
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92117 in acpi (main) "/fan dir empty! (dup-of: 88815)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92117
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #92994 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Since update to feisty, CPU fan in laptop won't stop spinning (dup-of: 88815)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92994
[02:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #23464 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 (restricted) "Celestia dies with segmentation fault, on atiogl_a_dri.so" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/23464
[02:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #24768 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 (restricted) "Fglrx crashes X" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/24768
[02:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #24684 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 (restricted) "Xorg gets 100% of CPU constantly" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/24684
[02:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #38991 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 (restricted) "[Dapper]  New nVidia 1.0.8756 graphics driver produces wrong refresh rate" [High,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/38991
[02:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #46767 in xresprobe (main) "Desktop installer setting wrong resolution in Dapper RC" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/46767
[02:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #93078 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Incorrect resolution on Medion MD 97300 with ATI Radeon Xpress 200M" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/93078
[03:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #37916 in xresprobe (main) "dapper livecd: xorg not started in 1400x1050" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/37916
[03:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #42932 in xorg (main) "dapper livecd not started in 1440x900, but in 1024x768" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/42932
[03:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #44379 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 (restricted) "nvidia-glx-config incorrectly configures for nforce2" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/44379
[03:24] <tepsipakki> Mithrandir: arf, the vesa driver might need a patch to fix a crash on randr resolution change
[03:24] <tepsipakki> bug #91591
[03:24] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 91591 in xorg "X server crashes on resolution change" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91591
[03:24] <tepsipakki> and fedora has a patch which could fix that. I'll ask the reporter to test
[06:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #46586 in xkeyboard-config (main) "Logitech Media Keyboard Elite not fully supported" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/46586
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #93151 in xterm (main) "Missing a .desktop file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/93151
[06:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #40905 in xkeyboard-config (main) "Enter key sends wrong signal on compaq evo n1000c" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/40905
[06:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #93156 in xserver-xorg-video-nv (main) "1440x900 resolution not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/93156
[07:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #93168 in xorg (main) "Xorg crashes when watching video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/93168
[08:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #54294 in xorg (main) "Failed to allocate mem resource #6 ..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/54294
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #93192 in mesa (main) "[apport]  glxinfo crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/93192
[09:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #21893 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Incorrect max texture size reported by ATI dri drivers" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/21893
[10:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #45602 in xorg (main) "[Dapper]  Screen Resolution just 640x480 with LCD Display (dup-of: 43917)" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/45602
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #12829 in xresprobe (main) "Select resolutions based on vertical refresh rate and maximum horizontal sync" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12829


[21:41] <Techspectre> ah
[21:41] <EriC^^> it's the same thing
[21:41] <Techspectre> so what now
[21:41] <Techspectre> try a reboot?
[21:41] <ST-84> I just prefer clarity
[21:41] <EriC^^> Techspectre: type exit
[21:42] <daftykins> ST-84: when someone already is receiving assistance, 'too many cooks' can occur
[21:42] <EriC^^> ST-84: gentoo user? :P
[21:42] <daftykins> :D
[21:42] <EriC^^> Techspectre: then reboot
[21:42] <ST-84> Arch,Gentoo and slackware but started my journey with ubuntu
[21:42] <Techspectre> Okay, fingers crossed
[21:42] <Techspectre> brb
[21:42] <ST-84> The old skewl ubuntu.
[21:42] <EriC^^> Techspectre: make sure sda is first to boot in..
[21:42] <EriC^^> and he's gone :D
[21:43] <daftykins> 'patience, grasshopper'
[21:43] <Humorousone_> daftykins: urm
[21:43] <Humorousone_> daftykins: it didn't switch after all >.<
[21:43] <daftykins> so what's happening?
[21:44] <Humorousone_> daftykins: do I need to switch graphics under shell? or can I just do it through terminal?
[21:44] <daftykins> shell is terminal
[21:44] <Humorousone_> sudo echo ON > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[21:44] <Humorousone_> whoops
[21:44] <daftykins> i genuinely have zero experience with hybrid AMD
[21:44] <Humorousone_> I'm just getting access denied
[21:44] <EriC^^> Humorousone_: that command won't work (fwiw)
[21:44] <EriC^^> Humorousone_: you need echo ON | sudo tee /sys/kernel......
[21:44] <daftykins> yeah needs some 'tee' goodness
[21:44] <daftykins> ;D
[21:44] <Humorousone_> heheeh
[21:45] <Humorousone_> EriC^^: Could you please explain exactly what that does?
[21:45] <Humorousone_> linux newbie
[21:45] <Humorousone_> *flutters eyes*
[21:45] <daftykins> it does what you tried to do, but working
[21:46] <techspectre3> K so that didnt work
[21:46] <daftykins> 'sudo echo' doesn't work as the permission isn't right
[21:46] <EriC^^> it pipes "ON" to tee which gets sudo privileges to write to /sys/...
[21:46] <daftykins> techspectre3: might be because you left too early :)
[21:46] <EriC^^> techspectre3: make sure sda is first to boot in the bios
[21:46] <techspectre3> Aaaaand now my machine wont even give me bios
[21:46] <Humorousone_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics <<--- I got the command I used from this article
[21:46] <guest1094382> um i'm fresh installing a system, and it seems that the logon has hanged, how can i fix this with a live boot?
[21:46] <Humorousone_> I'll give it a go thanks
[21:47] <ubuntu252> daftykins: do i have to install all drivers first before installing ubuntu?
[21:47] <daftykins> guest1094382: laptop/desktop?
[21:47] <guest1094382> desktop, and i have the error message, one sec
[21:47] <daftykins> ubuntu252: as long as all the updates are on, that'll be a good place to start on ubuntu. i.e. go through windows update multiple times after multiple reboots to ensure nothing remains.
[21:47] <EriC^^> Humorousone_: with all due respect to the author, i think that's the worst use of sudo in an article i've ever seen
[21:48] <EriC^^> sudo cat .. sudo grep.. sudo sudo almost
[21:48] <ubuntu252> daftykins: alright!
[21:48] <techspectre3> Okay well now ive got to figure out why my cmos memory is shot..
[21:48] <Nepoxx> Is it me or ffmpeg doesn't provide the libraires as before? libavfilter.so.5 certainly isn't there :/
[21:48] <daftykins> EriC^^: wasn't that Phil Collins?
[21:48] <EriC^^> lol what?
[21:48] <guest1094382> daftykins: looks like i don't have the error msg
[21:49] <bprompt> daftykins:    must be thinking of "su su su deoooo" by Collins =)
[21:49] <daftykins> :D
[21:49] <Nepoxx> Upgrading to 15.10 was definitely my biggest comp. mistake of 2015
[21:49] <daftykins> EriC^^: aww you're not in the other chan
[21:50] <guest1094382> so should i reinstall, and then not upgrade?
[21:50] <daftykins> guest1094382: describe what happens on your boot
[21:51] <daftykins> !nomodeset | guest1094382 maybe try this depending
[21:51] <guest1094382> i decrypt the disk, that goes fine, then i try to login to the account it hang's / freezes then reprompt's for the password
[21:52] <guest1094382> the system does catch the error for a split second, but then locks out
[21:52] <Humorousone_> just to double check - this: sudo echo IGD > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[21:52] <Humorousone_> would not work
[21:52] <Humorousone_> echo IGD | sudo tee /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch <<--- this would
[21:53] <Humorousone_> just double checking before I brick my laptop ;)
[21:53] <EriC^^> yeah
[21:53] <Humorousone_> EriC^^: +!
[21:53] <Humorousone_> +1
[21:53] <Humorousone_> switched over now, testing it out now
[21:54] <Nepoxx> Anyone know how I can get libavfilter.so.5 on Ubuntu 15.10? (and libavformat.so.56 and the like)
[21:55] <ubuntu252> daftykins: so the stick with ubuntu is prepared, i'm just running through some updates in windows and then i will try it!
[21:55] <Dawetllke20> I have a really stupid question as I am new to Linux, but is connected to the game OpenArena's servers to play live games in any way risky? I'm connecting to somon's server potentially at their house, yes?
[21:55] <guest1094382> daftykins: so should i reinstall and just leave un updated; i'm planning to have it airgapped anyways
[21:56] <wileee> Nepoxx, You might just address, what is is that is not playing with the standard codec load, from restricted extras, and or a vlc install, ffmpeg is not standard I believe now.
[21:57] <wileee> has not been for awhile
[21:57] <AvatarA> Dawetllke20, you risk more by searching on google, openarena doesn't download files by default, so you're good
[21:58] <daftykins> guest1094382: you should be on 14.04.3 then ideally
[21:58] <guestguesting> um i just hung my system after a fresh install and updates... can i recover, or do i need to reinstall (all data is backed up)
[21:59] <daftykins> guest1094382: but the concept of airgap'd is ridiculous if any flash drives will ever be used to introduce data to this system
[21:59] <Term1nal> So, the issue is still persisting. There was indeed a wildcard domain configured, however that's been removed for about an hour and it's still occuring. I've flushed DNS cache https://ghostbin.com/paste/ue778
[22:01] <guest1094382> daftykins: not the point though, plus my threat model is not that bad, it's just that running ethernet to it is problematic currently
[22:01] <guest1094382> daftykins: so do i need to remake my install disk?
[22:01] <daftykins> Term1nal: ##networking would be far more relevant as that is not an OS issue.
[22:02] <daftykins> guest1094382: if it's another version, yeah i would.
[22:02] <guest1094382> daftykins: what's a quick way to check?
[22:02] <guest1094382> (i'm booted in it right now...)
[22:03] <daftykins> cat /etc/issue
[22:03] <ubuntu903> daftykins: i will install ubuntu soon then :)=
[22:03] <mikhail> Hello peeps!
[22:03] <Andyy> hello
[22:03] <guest1094382> ty
[22:03] <mikhail> What's happening with Launchpad?
[22:03] <guest1094382> daftykins: root@ubuntu:~# cat /etc/issue
[22:03] <guest1094382> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[22:04] <mikhail> I can't go to Launchpad page to check for the PPA
[22:04] <k1l> mikhail: what do you mean?
[22:04] <daftykins> mikhail: can you be a bit more specific?
[22:04] <Techspectre> So what do you think would happen if you used the cmos jumper for your motherboard to reset the cmos, and then left the cmos jumper there
[22:04] <mikhail> and instead it shows me this
[22:04] <mikhail> w8 a sec
[22:04] <mikhail> "Lost something?
[22:04] <mikhail> This page does not exist, or you may not have permission to see it.
[22:04] <mikhail> If you have been to this page before, it is possible it has been removed.
[22:04] <mikhail> If you got here from a link elsewhere on Launchpad, sorry about that. We’ve recorded the problem, and we’ll fix it as soon as we can.
[22:04] <mikhail> Otherwise, complain to the maintainers of the page that linked here.
[22:04] <guest1094382> daftykins: looks like i'm at the newest version
[22:05] <k1l> mikhail: so the PPA is deleted?
[22:05] <EriC^^> Techspectre: did you try setting sda first to boot in the bios?
[22:05] <wileee> Andyy, Hi, let us know if you need help.
[22:05] <daftykins> guest1094382: yeah so what happens when you try and boot your install?
[22:05] <Techspectre> EriC^^, I'm in my installation now
[22:05] <EriC^^> ok
[22:05] <Andyy> Is it possible to install battlenet on Ubuntu?
[22:05] <guest1094382> daftykins: it hangs on the logon
[22:05] <Techspectre> EriC^^, but it was still giving me the error after what we did
[22:06] <Techspectre> EriC^^, it went away after I reset the cmos *again* (I've done it like a hundred times)
[22:06] <daftykins> guest1094382: and what graphics card + drivers does this system use? can you log in at a TTY? (Ctrl+Alt+F1)
[22:06] <Nepoxx> wileee: I used to run pianobar (pandora.com in the console) in 15.04, now I can't. I tried building ffmpeg from source, no dice
[22:06] <mikhail> give it a try and report me back
[22:06] <wileee> Andyy, Looks like wine does it, migh check #winehq https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=28855
[22:07] <Andyy> awesome thanks!
[22:07] <daftykins> mikhail: no, we don't know where you're trying to visit - nor why it's an ubuntu problem.
[22:07] <Techspectre> Nepoxx, have you tried pithos
[22:07] <guest1094382> daftykins: Intel® Core™ i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz × 4
[22:07] <Nepoxx> Andyy: I'm running Battle.net using playonlinux, works okay
[22:07] <k1l> mikhail: which link?
[22:07] <Nepoxx> I have not Techspectre
[22:07] <wileee> Nepoxx, Ah, hmm never had a pandora problem here link? we don't support outside the ubuntu repos here is all.
[22:07] <guest1094382> daftykins: Intel® Sandybridge Desktop
[22:07] <Techspectre> Nepoxx, if you like pandora, you should look at pithos
[22:07] <Techspectre> it's a native pandora client
[22:08] <daftykins> guest1094382: so you're using the on-chip graphics, no graphics card?
[22:08] <mikhail> any link from launchpad
[22:08] <guest1094382> daftykins: yes
[22:08] <Nepoxx> Techspectre: can I run it through an ssh tunnel? I'm not in the US :P
[22:08] <mikhail> such as this for example: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuhandbook1/%20archive/ubuntu/corebird
[22:08] <Techspectre> Nepoxx, I have no clue. But you can try.
[22:08] <Techspectre> It comes with a GUI.
[22:09] <Techspectre> Anyways I'm going to see if I can actually restart my machine now without it imploding. Provoke the beast... stay tuned
[22:09] <mikhail> do you have the same problem or is it just me?
[22:09] <k1l> mikhail: that links are gone. like deleted.
[22:09] <mikhail> yea? why?
[22:09] <k1l> mikhail: whom ever gave you that link got outdated informations
[22:09] <daftykins> mikhail: the PPA is dead, the maintainer ran away...
[22:09] <mikhail> what about the other ppa's pages?
[22:09] <k1l> mikhail: because the owner of that launchpad ppa site deleted it
[22:09] <mikhail> any ppa?
[22:10] <mikhail> i got to any ppa page and I am receiving the same kind of error
[22:10] <k1l> mikhail: no. other PPAs work. so please be specific
[22:10] <mikhail> why
[22:10] <mikhail> ?
[22:10] <guest1094382> daftykins: from what i can remember when i looked at the original problem, and did the "fix" was that something was missing in the install process (i installed the os without internet, but would that make a difference?), and then i had to sudo -i and the do something > something_else
[22:10] <k1l> mikhail: which links?
[22:10] <guest1094382> *then do
[22:10] <daftykins> !ppa | mikhail see here, none of those are Ubuntu's responsibility. You want software? you have to find a new place to get it.
[22:11] <mikhail> https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/%20archive/ubuntu/firefox-next
[22:11] <daftykins> guest1094382: sorry but that could mean _anything_ - so as i asked, please try ctrl+alt+F1 after boot to log in at a TTY.
[22:11] <mikhail> I tried this link and it still giving me the same error
[22:11] <guest1094382> daftykins: ty
[22:11] <daftykins> mikhail: please stop linking things, try and understand what i told you.
[22:11] <guest1094382> daftykins: sorry i couldn't provide more info...
[22:11] <k1l> mikhail: where did you get that links from?
[22:12] <k1l> mikhail: that are outdated links
[22:12] <Techspectre> EriC^^, I'm not sure what the problem is. I just tried another restart and on the first try, it gave me the error again. Then after another hard reset, I got in, but Ubuntu showed me 'ATA Bus errors' while starting.
[22:12] <mikhail> http://i.imgur.com/P2i4nxV.png
[22:12] <guest1094382> daftykins: i'll be back if it doesn't work
 mikhail: that are outdated links
[22:13] <k1l> mikhail: see https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam   there is no such archive
[22:13] <daftykins> mikhail: if you walk up to a bridge which is no longer there, do you phone a construction company and ask for them to rebuild it?
[22:13] <mikhail> ok w8
[22:13] <daftykins> mikhail: these PPAs are not coming back - and they are not #ubuntu 's problem - please look elsewhere.
[22:13] <ubuntu334> daftykins: should i also disable secure boot for ubuntu?
[22:14] <ubuntu334> i disabled intel speedstep and fast boot yes
[22:14] <mikhail> tell me at least any up to date ppa so I can check if it's working on webpage
[22:14] <k1l> mikhail: wait i found your error
[22:14] <ubuntu334> *yet
[22:15] <mikhail> try any up to date ppa webpage link for god sakes
[22:15] <daftykins> ubuntu334: there will not be a 'secure boot' per OS so i'm unsure what you mean, i also already linked you to the EFI guide page so you would have the answer there.
[22:15] <k1l> https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-next    you crippled the links and did exchange the "+"
[22:15] <Techspectre> ATA bus error.... I mean, I just had 2 hard drives burn up within a 2 week period. Could there be something wrong with the actual SATA bus that's causing disk problems?
[22:15] <daftykins> mikhail: i already told you PPAs are not supported and are your problem to resolve.
[22:15] <k1l> mikhail: so whoever gave you that link or youself did spoil the links
[22:15] <daftykins> Techspectre: less likely, cables could be bad.
[22:16] <Techspectre> daftykins, do sata cables deteriorate?
[22:16] <mikhail> hhmm
[22:16] <tushar> Hi guys !
[22:16] <daftykins> Techspectre: depends how rough you are with them :)
[22:16] <Techspectre> daftykins, lol well I don't make a habit of taking them places
[22:17] <daftykins> Techspectre: what kind of machine is this?
[22:17] <Techspectre> Let me try another restart... see what happens. I guess another possibility is that I have a dead cmos battery, having to reset it so many times, right? Could that cause these errors?
[22:17] <Nepoxx> Techspectre: got it to work using proxychains. Thanks a lot :)
[22:17] <Techspectre> daftykins, it's a machine I built
[22:17] <daftykins> Techspectre: recently?
[22:18] <mikhail> ok I got the problem
[22:18] <Techspectre> daftykins, no
[22:18] <mikhail> thank you everyone
[22:18] <mikhail> the search engine that i use did spoil that link
[22:18] <mikhail> any launchpad link
[22:18] <mikhail> thanks again for correcting me
[22:18] <mikhail> really appreciate
[22:18] <mikhail> d
[22:20] <ubuntu334> hmm i need to set this nomodeset stuff
[22:20] <wileee> ubuntu334, permanent?
[22:21] <daftykins> nah not installed yet
[22:21] <ubuntu334> wileee: first i wanted to choose "try ubuntu"
[22:21] <netameta> anyone know of mssql-pdo drivers  (mssql) not just normal sql
[22:21] <daftykins> ubuntu334: you sure you need it for first boot?
[22:21] <dna113p> Hi anyone know if there is a plugin for compiz that does the grid differently? I like the grid, its sweet, but I was hoping I could bind just 4 keys to grid windows. Example of what I need: <ctrl><alt>left to move window to left side of screen followed by <ctrl><alt>up to move window to top left quarter of screen. With grid as is that would put the window in the top half of the screen spannign the full width.
[22:21] <daftykins> netameta: Microsoft SQL isn't on topic here.
[22:21] <ubuntu334> daftykins: when i go on try ubuntu, there come errors like unsupported engines and failed to load fsc409c
[22:21] <ubuntu334> something with nouveou
[22:22] <ubuntu334> so i thought its the same
[22:22] <ubuntu334> when i press "e" i can put that in there?
[22:22] <netameta> daftykins: its a ubuntu package
[22:22] <wileee> ubuntu334, Thought you had good help, carry on. ;)
[22:23] <daftykins> ubuntu334: yeo
[22:23] <Fruidz> hello
[22:23] <daftykins> yep too
[22:24] <ubuntu334> wileee: yes awesome support here! i would never have come that far!
[22:24] <ubuntu334> nomodeset quiet splash
[22:24] <freddie42> Evening all - I'm a fool and have a home server running 12.10,  rather than 12.04LTS like I thought. Trying to upgrade to something sensible following instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades. Loads of 404s when I apt-get update, do-release-upgrade throws all the errors seen here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13003562/ - but no network problems that I can tell; can happily ping the IP that do-release-upgrade can't se
[22:24] <Guest26927> hi i ve a problem with weather indicator on my lubuntu 14.04. please help
[22:24] <wileee> !eolupgrade | freddie42
[22:24] <Fruidz> alguem ai do Brasil
[22:25] <MonkeyDust> !br
[22:25] <wileee> freddie42, Follow it correctly is all changing the repos.
[22:25] <daftykins> freddie42: you'd have so many releases to go through you'd be better off clean installing
[22:25] <daftykins> freddie42: (14.04)
[22:25] <wileee> +1
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> freddie42  12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10 > 14.04
[22:26] <Guest26927> dutch people on board?
[22:26] <daftykins> !nl
[22:26] <daftykins> probably pretty quiet in there
[22:27] <Guest26927> ik kan mijn weather indicator niet zichtbaar maken in mijn lubuntu 14.04
[22:27] <aclaudem> How to make a 1px titlebar for gnome? (I use gnome shell)  Or a titlebar as tiny as possible
[22:27] <freddie42> Cheers wileee/daftykins - Had completely forgotten about the need to go through all the releases on the way, won't waste any more time on trying to upgrade, cheers
[22:27] <wileee> freddie42, Cool, good idea.
[22:28] <daftykins> :)
[22:31] <ubuntu334> now i'm waiting
[22:31] <mrhello> Hi everyone. I recently installed Ubuntu 15.10 on a new build. It is connected to a 1080p 24 inch TV via HDMI cable. However the launcher and items at the top of the desktop are off screen. Does anyone know of a solution? 1680 x 1050 fixes the issue, but the TV should be able to display 1080p
[22:32] <jak2016> hi all
[22:33] <jak2016> bash question: i need get in a variable the date and time: MYDATE=YYYY_MM_DD_HH_SS    echo %MYDATE%
[22:33] <netameta> Ok i found out the package i need for PDO its called php5-sybase, however when i apt-get install php5-sybase i get lots of errors
[22:33] <k1l> jak2016: #bash is the special channel for bash and bashscripting
[22:34] <netameta> when i do apt-get upgrade i also get those errors
[22:34] <wileee> mrhello, Is there on board resolution on the TV, besides ubuntu?
[22:34] <k1l> !paste | netameta put the output there
[22:34] <bandy> good evening
[22:34] <ubuntu334> okay now comes the tricky part with the partitioning
[22:35] <mrhello> wileee, let me check, good suggestion
[22:35] <stevedd> hello, I'm am having trouble with ubuntu, when booting it goes into low graphics mode and i can't seem to do anything to fix it
[22:36] <ubuntu334> daftykins: sorry for annoying you again but thats the last part now and i dont want to break everything up now by a wrong decision. is the partition with "efi" and "windows boot manager" the uefi partition which the article was talking about?=
[22:36] <wileee> mrhello, I have an great tv, but no hdmi on my laptop, so just a few guesses really, xrandr might show more
[22:36] <netameta> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13003664/
[22:36] <daftykins> ubuntu334: not sure what you're asking or why?
[22:37] <netameta> is the output i am getting
[22:37] <k1l> netameta: its saucy. that is dead
[22:37] <mrhello> wileee, I just checked, the TV resolution says 1080p 60hz
[22:37] <mrhello> wilee, I will try xrandr, thanks
[22:38] <daftykins> netameta: it's also an amazon ec2 instance, so you should spin up a new one on a supported release (14.04), copy any data, then kill that one.
[22:38] <k1l> netameta: its dead since 07.2014 already. since then you run a bunch of security issues sind every security issue since then is not patched. and there were a lot of issues with ssh, openssl, kernels etc.
[22:38] <wileee> mrhello, Good so the TV will run it, you suggested that before, I wonder if the #hardware guys might have insight if none here. I would include the lsusb on the tv probably in this.
[22:39] <k1l> netameta: so do an upgrade to 14.04
[22:39] <mrhello> wileee, having some trouble interpreting the xrandr output
[22:39] <jak2016> k1l: http://pastie.org/10517007 any advice?pls
[22:40] <k1l> jak2016: #bash , i am not a bash specialist
[22:40] <ubuntu334>
[22:40] <jak2016> no answewr :(
[22:40] <netameta> daftykins: and k1l, so the only solution would be to update to 14.04
[22:40] <wileee> mrhello, you can put it in a pastebin if you like.
[22:40] <k1l> netameta: yes.
[22:40] <daftykins> netameta: yes
[22:41] <netameta> Thanks will check how to do that
[22:41] <k1l> netameta: see this http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/  that are all the security issues that get fixed by ubuntu. and you dont have all of them back to 2014
[22:41] <mrhello> wileee, thanks for your suggestion: http://pastebin.com/hDJ2xMDm
[22:42] <mrhello> wileee, scratch that
[22:42] <Bashing-om> stevedd: Graphic's card and driver ?
[22:42] <ubuntu334> daftykins: i uploaded the partition as photo for you:
[22:42] <mrhello> for some reason I did that for my laptop rather than the actual computer I am trying to fix
[22:42] <mrhello> let me create a new pastebin
[22:43] <wileee> mrhello, Cool, no prob.
[22:43] <daftykins> ubuntu334: where?
[22:43] <ubuntu334> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/k2695xxgtxbekst/AAA03nAmLAszUbfez9EEJ_QXa?dl=0
[22:43] <ubuntu334> i'm little bit confused with this sorry
[22:43] <stevedd> Bashing-om: nvidia 940m, i went through troubleshooting with ST-84 to get 346.59 on
[22:43] <ubuntu334> you can see sda2 is efi
[22:43] <ubuntu334> but who do i have to choose in the dropdown menu below?
[22:45] <mrhello> wileee, http://pastebin.com/yLgFrhs5
[22:45] <Bashing-om> stevedd: 346 version I would expect to work, however, Nvidia recommends the 352 version . What returns ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' ?
[22:46] <stevedd> nvidia-352 nvidia 352-updates intel-microcode
[22:46] <stevedd> Bashing-om: nvidia-352 nvidia 352-updates intel-microcode
[22:47] <daftykins> stevedd: you need nvidia-prime there too.
[22:47] <stevedd> daftykins: i thought i installed nvidia-prime previously with apt-get install nvidia-prime now sure why it is not there now
[22:48] <Bashing-om> stevedd: ' sudo apt-get purge nvidia* ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . Is what I would do .
[22:48] <ubuntu334> daftykins: i have created the swap partition 8GB, type: logical, use as: swap. is this alright=
[22:48] <mrhello> wileee, I apologize for wasting your time. I just figured out the issue
[22:48] <netameta> k1l: i will upgrade my system to 14.04
[22:48] <mrhello> The TV has an option called "overscan", apparently this is on by default. Turning it off displays correctly
[22:48] <wileee> mrhello, No time waste here, cool, good job. ;)
[22:49] <k1l> netameta: good decision
[22:49] <mrhello> the launch and top bars now display correctly in 1080p
[22:49] <daftykins> stevedd: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[22:49] <mrhello> this was my first build, I'm very excited to be on ubuntu 15.10
[22:49] <k1l> netameta: maybe you need the !eolupgrade workflow for that since its long time eol
[22:49] <OerHeks> mrhello, good find.
[22:49] <wileee> mrhello, The xrandr looked good fr it.
[22:49] <daftykins> ubuntu334: one sec looking now
[22:50] <ubuntu334> daftyskins: okay take your time
[22:50] <daftykins> ubuntu334: heh Sie kommt aus Deutschland? ;)
[22:51] <daftykins> ubuntu334: why is sda4 NTFS also?
[22:51] <ubuntu334> daftyskins: ja :)
[22:51] <ST-84> ubuntu334, Cool, Im dutch btw
[22:51] <ubuntu334> daftyskins: i think there is windows installed
[22:52] <ubuntu334> ST-84: hey neighbour :D
[22:52] <daftykins> ubuntu334: oh ignore me, need to open my eyes :P
[22:52] <ubuntu334> haha no worries
[22:52] <daftykins> ok so 678GB to play with
[22:52] <stevedd> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13003847/
[22:52] <daftykins> so 50GB /, 8GB is your RAM? so 8GB swap, then the rest as /home i'd say yeah
[22:52] <ubuntu334> yes :) i thought about a swap a root and an home
[22:53] <daftykins> stevedd: ok if you only just added -prime you might need to reboot now
[22:53] <ubuntu334> but i forgot to make nfts partition in windows because i want to use one to share my data between ubuntu and windows. because both can read on nfts as far as i know
[22:53] <stevedd> daftykins: i have rebooted a bunch of times since i added it
[22:53] <daftykins> ubuntu334: yeah that'd be a good idea, a D: for data sharing of some kind
[22:53] <daftykins> stevedd: what kind of machine is this?
[22:54] <stevedd> daftykins: it is a laptop, asus x555ub
[22:54] <daftykins> oh that thing
[22:54] <daftykins> any controls in the BIOS to handle graphics selection?
[22:55] <ubuntu334> daftykins: yes so i would make this partition later in windows. so how about root 50GB, home 200GB, swap 8GB and the rest for the data partition? i'm little bit confused which i should make primary and which logical
[22:56] <stevedd> daftykins: doesn't seem like it
[22:57] <Techspectre> Guys!!! I figured it out, it was the SATA cable indeed!
[22:57] <Techspectre> Nothing was wrong with GRUB
[22:57] <ST-84> Techspectre, ._.
[22:57] <ST-84> Always check your hardware first
[22:58] <ST-84> Hardware->software
[22:58] <ST-84> Its IT 101
[22:58] <Techspectre> ST-84, I just didn't think a SATA cable could go bad
[22:58] <ST-84> Techspectre, Everything in a pc can go bad
[22:58] <daftykins> Techspectre: :) nailed it.
[22:58] <Techspectre> It's been installed in the same place, hard fastened for like a year
[22:58] <ST-84> Techspectre, Still
[22:58] <daftykins> sometimes they just go loose too.
[22:58] <ST-84> Always check hardware first
[22:58] <daftykins> stevedd: so 15.10, anything else done after boot? works fine until you try nvidia huh?
[22:59] <Techspectre> I'm so happy lmfao
[22:59] <dogic> i'm trying to configure sshd to only allow certain users
[22:59] <daftykins> good you caught the kernel messages
[22:59] <dogic> i add the following line AllowUsers: mark
[23:00] <daftykins> ubuntu334: nah make the partition now, just don't format it
[23:00] <stevedd> daftykins: it was working fine all day, then i closed my lid, when i next used it it would just give me a black screen, someone helped me and it made it so by just booting iget low graphics mode
[23:00] <dogic> however, i'm still able to ssh in with other users
[23:00] <Techspectre> Because dual booting is a real pain these days, and months ago I set it up for like the 5th time after many.... learning experiences, and I was like yes, finally, this is it, it will never fail again. So I'm so glad it wasn't that
[23:00] <daftykins> stevedd: hmm that sounds more complex. can you restore normal operation by removing all nvidia packages?
[23:00] <ubuntu334> daftyskins: oh thats good. i have made the root and home partition now primary is that okay?
[23:00] <daftykins> stevedd: oh i know, someone might've tried to get you to run nvidia-xconfig at some point, make sure you *don't* have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:01] <daftykins> ubuntu334: can you open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit" ?
[23:01] <Techspectre> Yes it's very fortunate that I saw the kernel errors, windoze wouldn't do that lol
[23:01] <daftykins> it actually would
[23:01] <Techspectre> oh
[23:01] <Techspectre> lol
[23:02] <stevedd> daftykins: let me check
[23:03] <ubuntu334> daftykins: i did
[23:03] <ubuntu334> paste.ubuntu.com/13003932
[23:04] <ubuntu334> daftykins: is this what you need?
[23:04] <OnkelTem> hi all
[23:04] <OnkelTem> How to update bash? Is there a good PPA?
[23:04] <OnkelTem> 14.04
[23:04] <teward> OnkelTem: is there any particular reason you want to update?
[23:05] <OnkelTem> yes, it is buggy and I have no any idea how to workaround one bug
[23:05] <stevedd> daftykins: there is an xorg.conf.10292015 and some backups and a xorg.conf.failsafe
[23:06] <ubuntu334>
[23:08] <jak2000> for copy a file from server1 to server2(remote servers) wich is better? scp or rsync?
[23:08] <daftykins> ubuntu334: yep looking good
[23:08] <daftykins> ubuntu334: do a final picture of the partitioner window before you continue, then - with all your partitions made
[23:08] <Guest81115> q
[23:09] <daftykins> stevedd: no it's only an actual xorg.conf - the rest are ok. try "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* " and see if on reboot you get a working desktop
[23:09] <ubuntu334> daftykins: okay i put it in the same folder like before
[23:10] <daftykins> hmm not appeared yet, unless you replaced the other?
[23:10] <ubuntu334> i think now
[23:10] <daftykins> there it is
[23:11] <daftykins> ah you'll need to scroll to the bottom
[23:11] <stevedd> daftykins: ok doing that, i did some poking around in the xconf files, and it looks like one of the backups specifically disables the intel video card
[23:11] <ubuntu334> so all in all i have swap 8gb logical, root 50GB primary, home 200GB primary, and unformatted partition the rest
[23:11] <ubuntu334> there is only "free space" 0 mb :D
[23:11] <ubuntu334> under sda8
[23:11] <stevedd> daftykins: do you think that somehow the configuration got all messed up and intel is supposed to be disabled but somehow turned itself on?
[23:12] <daftykins> stevedd: with optimus setups, you always have to keep the intel and the nvidia running at once - it's a hybrid setup typically. the intel is connected to the screen but the nvidia draws to the intel before it's displayed.
[23:13] <stevedd> daftykins: ok i get a black screen, but i can see my mouse and the login sound played
[23:13] <daftykins> ubuntu334: sounds good, i'd try the install now then
[23:13] <ubuntu334> daftyskins: awesome! but what do i have to choose in the dropdown below?
[23:13] <daftykins> ubuntu334: it's ok as /dev/sda
[23:13] <ubuntu334> ATA [...]} or windows boot manager or anything else?
[23:14] <ubuntu334> okay good, do i have to select any special sda when clicking on install?
[23:15] <Vieira-Ubuntu> noobs
[23:16] <ubuntu334> okay trying now, so excited :D
[23:19] <stevedd> daftykins: ok i get a black screen, but i can see my mouse and the login sound played
[23:19] <daftykins> stevedd: did you say this was normal ubuntu or some other desktop?
[23:20] <stevedd> daftykins: i was using ubuntu with cinnamon
[23:23] <daftykins> stevedd: mmm so not a desktop i'm familiar with - ok ridiculous idea, but power off and remove the mains + battery, then hold the power button for a bit, then start it up again
[23:23] <curiousx> /j# archlinux
[23:26] <ubuntu334> daftykins: so it has finished but when i change the boot #1 in bios back to "hard disk: windows bootloader" it will just boot windows and not give me the option for ubuntu or windows
[23:27] <daftykins> ubuntu334: hopefully there is a GRUB/Ubuntu entry in there to select
[23:28] <ubuntu334> oh yes it seems
[23:29] <stevedd> daftykins: ok what i did was i purged the drivers then reinstalled them with sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[23:29] <daftykins> stevedd: no, you're meant to be trying boot with *no* nvidia on :)
[23:29] <stevedd> daftykins: it looks like that solved the problem, curiously cinnamon killed it self, but it looks like i can boot with graphics now
[23:29] <Techspectre> daftykins, I've got a harder one for you now.
[23:30] <daftykins> oh lucky me
[23:30] <daftykins> one sec i need a refill
[23:30] <daftykins> !cookie | daftykins
[23:30] <Techspectre> lmao
[23:30] <daftykins> fire away
[23:30] <ubuntu334> still this noveou error
[23:31] <Techspectre> daftykins, any idea how you can take all the input from a trackball mouse and change the input into scrolling instead of mouse movement under Ubuntu
[23:31] <daftykins> ubuntu334: that's fine, just need to install the nvidia driver - is it workable or impossible to use?
[23:31] <daftykins> Techspectre: hmm i have no idea on input devices i'm afraid.
[23:32] <Techspectre> that's okay lol. Anyone else?
[23:32] <ubuntu334> daftykins: so i can boot windows thats good, now im gonna try ubuntu, just 1 sec
[23:32] <stevedd> daftykins: thanks for all your help, i really aprecciate it
[23:32] <daftykins> stevedd: np!
[23:32] <daftykins> glad it worked out :>
[23:33] <daftykins> stevedd: was it still the nvidia-352 that went on, out of interest?
[23:35] <stevedd> daftykins: yes it looks like it, i think the whole issue stemmed from me suspending my computer, i don't know why they would mess up my drivers though
[23:35] <ubuntu334> daftykins: awesome seems to work!
[23:36] <ubuntu334> yes! :) well i gotta go to sleep now, i will test it tomorrow more in detail and give some short report here tomorrow evening
[23:36] <ens> just random knowledge since a guy asked earlier: to setup a vnc server for the login screen you can create the config /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf . an example template is /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf (or .conf.gz)
[23:36] <ubuntu334> so thank you really so much for your help! you were my lifeguard :D
[23:37] <daftykins> ubuntu334: enjoy o/
[23:37] <daftykins> i dunno about that, i'm not a good swimmer!
[23:38] <ubuntu334> so good night. really amazing support, thanks so much! :)
[23:39] <ubuntu334> hahah but great linux master
[23:46] <w00lf> Hi, i'm using kernel 3.19 in 14.04, is it recommanded to update kernel to 4.2 for ex ? Thanks
[23:46] <AEL-H> if I wanted to make an interactive graph of earths surface where should I start looking? I have recently covered basics of python 3 and have been asked to come up with my own project
[23:46] <AEL-H> wooopppss wrong irc sorry!#
[23:49] <Bashing-om> w00lf: One will get 4.2 in due time with HWE .
[23:52] <w00lf> Bashing-om: HWE ?
[23:52] <Bashing-om> !hwe | w00lf
[23:54] <w00lf> ubottu: i understand now thank you :)
[23:54] <bobdobbs> is there a gui other then tragtor and handbrake  available for transcoding videos?
[23:55] <bobdobbs> handbrake great, but limited. tragtor won't run on my system
[23:55] <bobdobbs> (unless I become a python expert)
[23:56] <OerHeks> vlc, winff http://techapple.net/2015/05/top-7-free-video-converters-for-linux-to-convert-videos-on-gnu-linux-ubuntu-linux-mint-fedora/
[23:56] <bobdobbs> oh. vlc does transcoding? cool.
[23:56] <OerHeks> and streaming
[23:57] <bobdobbs> thanks
[23:58] <bobdobbs> oh dammit. you need access to the toolbar menu to get to the transcoding options. Somehow I broke all the toolbar menus on my desktop.
[23:58] <bobdobbs> life is much more difficult without the toolbar menus