[10:01] <celerex> if it says '386' it will run on ANY x86 after the 80386 chipsets
[10:01] <alon> maybe, what is GDM?
[10:01] <celerex> if you have a 586 package.. it wont' run on 386 or 486 chipsets.. but will run on everything after 586 as well
[10:01] <CraiZE> alon, GDM is where you login, choose your sessions, etc
[10:01] <celerex> optimizations start coming into play on some serious high end chipsets.
[10:02] <CraiZE> the yellow ubuntu background where you login :D
[10:02] <alon> CraiZE, yes that's what i mean
[10:02] <CraiZE> alon, edit your xorg.conf
[10:02] <alon> CraiZE, where is it placed?
[10:02] <CraiZE> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:02] <alon> CraiZE, ok thanks
[10:02] <ndlovu_> celerex: thanks
[10:03] <CraiZE> alon, you most probably have once a higher resolution (on the top) of your display settings
[10:03] <CraiZE> so you need to remove it
[10:03] <CraiZE> i had that too, it used 1600x1200, i had to delete the 1600x1200 entry
[10:03] <Killgore> it doesnt work for me
[10:03] <CraiZE> alon, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[10:03] <Killgore> even though i had higher res in windows
[10:03] <CraiZE> before you edit it
[10:04] <alon> CraiZE, ok, but what shoud i change there in order to set the resolution to 1024*768 for example?
[10:04] <George007> !ssh
[10:04] <ubotu> ssh is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[10:04] <CraiZE> alon, yes
[10:05] <CraiZE> alon, look in your "Section "Screen"
[10:05] <CraiZE> you will have several SubSection "Display"
[10:06] <alon> CraiZE, right
[10:06] <CraiZE> alon, okay there should be several lines like: 		Modes    "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[10:06] <alon> CraiZE, yes i see them
[10:06] <CraiZE> alon, okay, the very first line of Modes
[10:06] <CraiZE> is used by GDM
[10:06] <bliss1_> helo
[10:06] <CraiZE> so if you wanted 1024x768
[10:07] <CraiZE> you remove the 1280x1024 entry
[10:07] <CraiZE> so the line would be: 		Modes    "024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[10:07] <CraiZE> (mine)
[10:07] <CraiZE> *so the line would be: 		Modes    "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[10:07] <CraiZE> sorry, made a typo :D
[10:07] <CraiZE> then you save it, but make sure you made that backup before
[10:07] <deyan> question: is flight-6 can be used as workstation os now? are there any crictial bugs?
[10:07] <alon> CraiZE, ok, i try to log out and see if it works, i'll be right back
[10:08] <CraiZE> then you logout of your session, ctrl + alt + backspace afterwards and X will restart
[10:08] <CraiZE> then you will see if it worked :)
[10:08] <celerex> here's teh problem with windows
[10:08] <celerex> restaring
[10:09] <bliss1_> just invoked  mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/  from hda1  and then want to edit  menu.lst in hda2 but file menu.lst is blank have I foggenton to add a command somewhere ?
[10:10] <ndlovu_> anyone know what's the best way to install freemind?
[10:10] <ndlovu_> (on breezy)
[10:11] <bliss1_> DBO: still wake/ wht no t have a mimi coffee machine in your house or flat save money?
[10:11] <DBO> what?
[10:12] <bliss1_> DBO: coffee what where when did I wake you take a look at my line above have I missed something
[10:13] <Killgore> changin the xorg.conf doesnt work for me
[10:13] <bliss1_> Kilgore: hi
[10:13] <Killgore> bliss1_: hey
[10:13] <DBO> bliss1_, yeah, I saw the room go from red to blue and the "someone said my name" light went off
[10:14] <bliss1_> DBO: what a life must be bliss
[10:15] <DBO> meh, getting paid to do nothing for 10 weeks at a time aint bad... its a cushy job, but someone has to do it
[10:15] <DBO> (not sit here, my real job that is)
[10:15] <DBO> but we are offtopic, and I dont feel like getting banned...
[10:16] <bliss1_> DBO: ok thanks ye know what you mean
[10:16] <chamo> lo
[10:16] <Speedlink|war> !ftp
[10:16] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[10:16] <DBO> hi chamo
[10:16] <DBO> need help?
[10:16] <sufa> why dont they support glftpd?
[10:16] <sufa> grr
[10:17] <bliss1_> DBO:  just invoked  mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/  from hda1  and then want to edit  menu.lst in hda2 but file menu.lst is blank have I foggenton to add a command somewhere ?
[10:18] <bliss1_> benn: hi
[10:18] <DBO> bliss1_, "sudo gedit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst"
[10:18] <ziesemer> When I use Places / Connect To Server / Windows Share, does that use samba behind-the-scenes?  (I.e., if I'm having problems, could editing the smb.conf make a difference??)
[10:18] <DBO> bliss1_, assuming you had one on there
[10:18] <benn> yo, i need some help with xlg/compiz
[10:18] <DBO> ziesemer, yes
[10:18] <ziesemer> DBO, thanks!
[10:19] <DBO> ziesemer, but I believe that config file you speak of is dealing with the server
[10:19] <celerex> uhhh
[10:19] <chamo> DBO: nah thanks, here to help and discuss too ^^
[10:20] <kameron> anyone have spca5xx drivers working in dapper? this is the driver for icm32 based webcams..
[10:20] <chamo> hey btw, have you seen the post on osnews about Kubuntu ?
[10:20] <DBO> chamo, ok, sorry, something of a bad habit
[10:20] <celerex> wow
[10:20] <bliss1_> DBO: thanks it worked but i tried with kate first I relly use nano its a nice editor small and easy
[10:20] <chamo> DBO: I'd call that a good habits
[10:20] <ziesemer> DBO - here's my issue.  I can connect to XP just fine.  Just type in my computer name, it even displays a list of all the shares.  Doesn't work on Win2k3  Suspecting "signing" issue...
[10:20] <DBO> !dapper
[10:20] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:20] <celerex> testing
[10:20] <celerex> *scratches head*
[10:20] <chamo> see here http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=14283
[10:20] <ziesemer> DBO - Read a FAQ on the Wiki about this, which recommends typing in the share as part of the server name, but it doesn't work.
[10:21] <chamo> any advice for a neat subversion client on linux?
[10:21] <benn> so, i tried getting xgl/compiz running on my breezy ubuntu with nvidia card, and i followed all the directions to the reboot step, rebooted and busybox said it couldn't find /dev/hda1 and dropped me into busybox console, what do i do?
[10:22] <DBO> ziesemer, is the 2k3 box a domain controller?
[10:22] <ziesemer> DBO, yes.
[10:22] <ziesemer> (and I'd rather not have to change the 2k3 box to make this work, by disabling signing, for example)
[10:22] <Killgore> is it bad too pull ipods/flash drives out in linux before you unmount them?
[10:22] <benn> anyone know how to fix that or get me back to where i was before?
[10:22] <alon> CraiZE, thanks it worked
[10:23] <CraiZE> alon, awesome
[10:23] <CraiZE> :)
[10:23] <yuion> whats the diffrent between gdm and kgb??,witch should i use?
[10:23] <LoCusF> dssjon: did it work?
[10:23] <mjr> gdm is a login manager, and kgb is the Russian secret police
[10:24] <bliss1_> chamo: read article looks like commication problem
[10:24] <benn> anybody?
[10:24] <DBO> ziesemer, understandable, I believe you are right about the signing, but I dont know the solution, let me see what I can dig up
[10:24] <yuion> mjr, haha come on,you know what i mean:P
[10:24] <mjr> I recommend gdm for login, and kgb if you want someone to disappear
[10:24] <Killgore> mjr: lol
[10:24] <benn> *listens to echoes*
[10:24] <yuion> i mean gnome or the other kbg:P
[10:25] <Killgore> kdm?
[10:25] <bliss1_> benn: direct your question at a nick DBO for example
[10:25] <Killgore> no dont do that
[10:25] <benn> DBO: so, i tried getting xgl/compiz running on my breezy ubuntu with nvidia card, and i followed all the directions to the reboot step, rebooted and busybox said it couldn't find /dev/hda1 and dropped me into busybox console, what do i do?
[10:25] <dssjon> locusf, i dont think so.. i ran it one more time but i got alot of non-pic errors
[10:25] <ziesemer> DBO, thanks.  According to http://www.linuxmanpages.com/man5/smb.conf.5.php, "client signing - auto" seems like it should work.  Now I just need to find this file.  Thought it'd be in /etc/...
[10:25] <benn> if anyone can get me either back to where i was or fix it, that would be great
[10:25] <dssjon> apparently there is more configuration to do but the website i was reading was using emerge
[10:25] <bliss1_> Killgore sorry how should it be done just hope somwone answers?
[10:26] <alon> how can i let computers with windows os to access my linux via home network?
[10:26] <Killgore> bliss1_: yes exactly. It may be frustrating but it could be that no-one knows the answer
[10:26] <mjr> alon, if you mean its filesystem, you need to install samba
[10:26] <bliss1_> Killgore: ok thanks know for next time
[10:26] <DBO> benn, sorry, Im not really here for a prolonged time...  you are going to need to ask the entire room and get someone to bite
[10:26] <benn> to make things even sweeter, this live cd won't let me mount my hdd
[10:26] <alon> mjr, samba is installed already. what now?
[10:26] <Killgore> thats fine
[10:27] <benn> entire room: so, i tried getting xgl/compiz running on my breezy ubuntu with nvidia card, and i followed all the directions to the reboot step, rebooted and busybox said it couldn't find /dev/hda1 and dropped me into busybox console, what do i do?
[10:27] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11949  here is my dmesg when i plugin the camera
[10:27] <mjr> alon, there's the shared folders setup tool in system/settings
[10:27] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11949  here is my dmesg when i plugin the camera
[10:27] <DBO> ziesemer, smb.conf is in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:27] <LoCusF> dssjon: the non-pic errors are not dangerous
[10:28] <alon> mjr, i've shared my home folder already too
[10:28] <LoCusF> you'll see that change after reboot
[10:28] <dssjon> ah okay
[10:28] <alon> mjr, but for some reason the other computers don't see my computer
[10:28] <Scarborough> is everythinga I install showed in synaptic?
[10:28] <mjr> alon, well, don't really know then
[10:28] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11949  here is my dmesg when i plugin the camera
[10:28] <benn> help!
[10:29] <ziesemer> DBO, just found it, thanks.
[10:29] <ziesemer> Is this list archived anywhere for future reference?
[10:29] <alon> how can i let computers with windows os to access my linux via home network?
[10:29] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11949  here is my dmesg when i plugin the camera
[10:29] <benn> can anyone at least tell me the easiest way to undo my destruction?
[10:29] <andyjeffries> Can anyone recommend a wireless PCI card that works out of the box on Ubuntu 5.10 and is SMP safe (so no rt2500 cards)?
[10:29] <benn> without reinstalling everything
[10:30] <andyjeffries> Sorry, meant to add, must be 802.11g compatible.
[10:30] <saik0> !tell alon about samba
[10:30] <Killgore> alon: try this      sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[10:30] <DBO> benn, ok I will bite for a little bit, can you boot a live CD?
[10:30] <tsume> :/
[10:30] <tsume> I'm getting tired of typing out html code, is there a good WYSIWYG html editor?
[10:30] <benn> yes, that's where i'm at right now
[10:30] <yuion> some tutorial how to get wine to work on ubuntu amd64 box?
[10:30] <DBO> benn, ok, can you point me to the tutorial you used?
[10:30] <PwcrLinux> tsume try nvu
[10:31] <dssjon> tsume, dreamweaver is good..
[10:31] <tsume> PwcrLinux: nvu is a pathetic excuse for a WYSIWYG editor
[10:31] <tsume> dssjon: if I only had a windows box..
[10:31] <dssjon> tsume, dreamweaver is probably the best hands down..
[10:31] <apenaflor> good day to all.....
[10:31] <benn> DBO, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[10:31] <tsume> things like this really piss me off, there aren't any commercial editors for linux either
[10:31] <tsume> they are all f'kin windows based
[10:31] <ndlovu> any idea why mounting a network share gives me this message: "smbfs: mount_data version<PHONE_NUMBER> is not supported"?
[10:32] <Remy> !language
[10:32] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[10:32] <PwcrLinux> I use nvu on my linux box :)
[10:32] <tsume> opensource sucks when there is no funding
[10:32] <ndlovu> ah yes, I think I still need to actually install smbfs...
[10:32] <Madpilot> tsume, is there any such thing as "a good WYSIWYG html editor"?
[10:32] <tsume> Madpilot: yes.
[10:32] <jbrouhard> tsume like what?
[10:32] <tsume> dreamweaver
[10:32] <jbrouhard> Plese do NOT say FrontPage
[10:32] <Den> Hi - Would someone please help me with a login failure in Dapper?  See http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/650892  Thanks! :)
[10:32] <jbrouhard> cause it sucks
[10:32] <jbrouhard> I use Dreamweaver
[10:33] <tsume> FrontPage is actually useful
[10:33] <jbrouhard> however, NVU is just as good
[10:33] <tsume> the new 2003 version is great
[10:33] <jbrouhard> just doesn't support PHP, ASP, JSP that much
[10:33] <alon> Killgore, now i can see the computer, but it asks for username and password and mine doesn't work
[10:33] <DBO> benn, ok, did you follow the walkthrough to the letter?
[10:33] <benn> DBO, if i can just get this stupid BusyBox thing removed, i think i can manage the rest myself
[10:33] <tsume> jbrouhard: not from where I'm sitting.
[10:33] <benn> DBO, yes
[10:33] <tsume> jbrouhard: doesn't have much ability for ease of use.
[10:33] <ziesemer> DBO - if you come up with anything, could you please private message me?  (Otherwise, I'm afraid I'll never see your response.)  Unless there's a searchable archive of this all somewhere...
[10:33] <jbrouhard> Then perhaps you're a bit too picky
[10:33] <jbrouhard> Honestly
[10:33] <PwcrLinux> yea, NVU only just basic, doesn't have other codes as PHP, ASP and etc..
[10:33] <jbrouhard> I use a combination of programs
[10:33] <benn> DBO, i really just want to undo all my changes if that's possible
[10:34] <jbrouhard> NVU, Quanta, and good ol' mcedit (or nano)
[10:34] <tsume> jbrouhard: I expect total ease. I have enough to remember in programming.
[10:34] <Killgore> alon: you will have to either set up a new user for samba (which i dont know how to do) or make your ubuntu share public, which imho is easier
[10:34] <DBO> ziesemer, your setting didnt work?
[10:34] <alon> Killgore, i can i do it public?
[10:34] <DBO> ziesemer, as far as I know, they only way to allow OS X and linux to connect is to disable signing, but its been at least a year since i last dealt with that issue
[10:34] <jbrouhard> What you programming in?
[10:34] <jbrouhard> java?
[10:34] <tsume> well I guess opensource is only good when theres a company like Novell sitting behind it developing for a certain product
[10:34] <DBO> benn, is your drive mounting in the live boot?
[10:34] <jbrouhard> <-- is trying to save up for a certain PHP editor ;)
[10:34] <ziesemer> Trying it now. I'll let you know.
[10:34] <tsume> jbrouhard: C,C++, Java, Ruby, bash, etc etc
[10:34] <Killgore> alon: public within your network
[10:35] <tsume> jbrouhard: asterisk dialplans :P
[10:35] <jbrouhard> heh
[10:35] <Den> Can anyone here help me with a login failure, X failure????
[10:35] <tsume> jbrouhard: I don't have time to hand type HTML code
[10:35] <jbrouhard> need a web editor for what ?
[10:35] <alon> Killgore, ok, but i do i do this?
[10:35] <jbrouhard> Oh
[10:35] <jbrouhard> NVU is WYSIWYG
[10:35] <jbrouhard> very hevay onthat too
[10:35] <DBO> Den, are you getting the login screen, or a text prompt?
[10:35] <tsume> jbrouhard: I've tried it out, its not too great. it keeps organizing my code
[10:35] <benn> DBO, no, i tried just doing a mount -t ext3 /dev/hda to a mount point, but it says it's already mounted or the mount point i just created is busy, so i just did umount /dev/hda but it says it's not mounted
[10:35] <jbrouhard> organized code is the best way to go
[10:35] <Killgore> alon: http://ubuntuguide.squarecows.com/doku.php and look at the networking link i think
[10:36] <jbrouhard> especially if someone down the road is more organized than you are
[10:36] <tsume> jbrouhard: also there aren't many decent features, and the site manager sucks ;)
[10:36] <Den> DBO: See http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/650892  Thanks! :)
[10:36] <jbrouhard> Well, yeah
[10:36] <DBO> benn, did you try creating a new mountpoint?
[10:36] <tsume> jbrouhard: it organizes it wrong
[10:36] <jbrouhard> Sitemanager sucks.. 8shrugs*
[10:36] <Killgore> alon:  there are a lot of different setups. You want Share: Public Authentitcation: No
[10:36] <benn> DBO, yes
[10:36] <benn> DBO, three now :)
[10:36] <tsume> jbrouhard: one feature in frontpage I like.. being able to remotely manage sites without downloading everything
[10:36] <DBO> Den, can you log in text based?
[10:36] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11949  here is my dmesg when i plugin the camera
[10:36] <Den> DBO: Yes
[10:36] <DBO> Den, do you have internet?
[10:36] <jbrouhard> tsume, i can do that too.. tho it requires me SSH'ing into the box and editing remotely :)
[10:37] <Den> DBO: When I gui login it immediately sends me back to a login screen -
[10:37] <tsume> jbrouhard: heh. well now you see my point
[10:37] <jbrouhard> Anyway I must get to sleep...
[10:37] <Den> DBO: yes, internet
[10:37] <jbrouhard> Personally tsume, I just use what is available
[10:37] <Den> DBO: Did you see the paste?
[10:37] <jbrouhard> if you absolutely NEED Dreamweaver
[10:37] <tsume> maybe I'll just develop one..
[10:37] <dr3as> had a nice html editor before, but can't remember the name, can anyone help?
[10:37] <jbrouhard> http://www.codeweavers.com
[10:37] <DBO> Den "ls /etc/X11" -> pastebin
[10:37] <jbrouhard> Perfect place to get Dreamweavers to run
[10:37] <tsume> jbrouhard: well there are features which would be nice to have.
[10:37] <jbrouhard> Well
[10:37] <jbrouhard> If you want to help make nvu better
[10:37] <tsume> jbrouhard: well I'd develop one for money too.
[10:37] <DBO> benn, interesting peice of breakage you pulled off...
[10:38] <tsume> would be the perfect product
[10:38] <jbrouhard> I'm sure they're always looking for additional devs ;)
[10:38] <benn> DBO, i am a master!
[10:38] <tsume> jbrouhard: sorry, theres no funding, and I'm not a 15 year old kid coding for a good time
[10:38] <bliss1_> to the room anyone work from command line with no X
[10:38] <benn> DBO, i found some things from people who tried to upgrade from breezy to dapper who got the same problems and had to rebuild a kernel or something, but i don't want any of that
[10:38] <benn> i just want my old setup back
[10:38] <Killgore> bliss1_: yeah
[10:38] <jbrouhard> neither are the nvu kids
[10:38] <DBO> benn, "mount" -> pastebin
[10:39] <DBO> benn, yes, but it should still mount in liveboot
[10:39] <jbrouhard> Anyways
[10:39] <tsume> jbrouhard: well like I keep telling the kaffe developers.. "geez man, offer commercial support or something"
[10:39] <jbrouhard> i'm gone
[10:39] <benn> pastebin?
[10:39] <Bambino> How do I check if the system i am running on is 32bit or 64bit?
[10:39] <Killgore> Bambino: look at the processor?
[10:39] <DBO> !tell benn about pastebin
[10:39] <Killgore> Bambino: how old is it?
[10:39] <Den> DBO: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/650904
[10:39] <DBO> Bambino, "uname -r"
[10:39] <benn> oh, ah
[10:39] <andyjeffries> Can anyone recommend an 802.11g wireless PCI card that works out of the box on Ubuntu 5.10 and is SMP safe (so no rt2500 cards)?
[10:40] <Bambino> Killgore, its a guy who has 64bits processor. But I he odnt know if he intalled ubuntu 32bit or 64bit
[10:40] <Den> DBO: You see that paste http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/650904
[10:40] <Bambino> Killgore, so i wanna find out what he has
[10:40] <bliss1_> Killgore; so do you use irssi or bithcx?
[10:40] <Bambino> DBO, thanks
[10:40] <DBO> Den, that explains some stuff
[10:40] <saik0> Bambino, what does "uname -r" give you?
[10:40] <Bambino> saik0, I am asking him now
[10:40] <benn> DBO, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11951
[10:40] <Den> DBO: Suggestions?
[10:41] <Killgore> bliss1_: oh god no. I installed BlackBox although i did use bitchx which i didnt like, because i couldnt figure out how to connect to 2 servers
[10:41] <Bambino> saik0: 2.6.12-10-386
[10:41] <saik0> Bambino, 32bit
[10:41] <DBO> Den, yeah, resinstall X might be the easiest solution
[10:41] <Bambino> saik0, thakns
[10:41] <saik0> Bambino, yea
[10:41] <Den> DBO: How do you think the problem occurred?
[10:42] <DBO> Den, I donno, i could research it, but I know where the problem is, not what caused it, I do very little work with X
[10:42] <Den> DBO: What _exactly_ shoulod I reinstall?  What would be the apt command?
[10:42] <tsume> punkforpez: EDONTCARE
[10:42] <Den> DBO: "I know wehr the problem is" > in X??
[10:43] <DBO> benn, is this the ubuntu live CD?
[10:43] <benn> DBO, yes
[10:43] <DBO> Den, you are supposed to have an /etc/X11/xserver folder, you dont
[10:43] <Den> DBO: yes
[10:43] <bliss1_> Killgore: Blackbox? ok I am in my command on my other box what a bit more youknow something to chew on I look at blackbox
[10:43] <Den> DBO: So, what would be the apt command to deinstall reinstall?
[10:43] <bliss1_> want
[10:44] <Killgore> bliss1_: blackbox is in apt if you have internet
[10:44] <DBO> Den "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg" then "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg"
[10:44] <Den> DBO: Thanks :)
[10:44] <DBO> benn, are you sure you have the right device?
[10:44] <Killgore> brb getting games to work
[10:45] <bliss1_> Killgore: ok thanks what else do you run lynx browser for example
[10:45] <benn> yeah it comes up in dmesg as hda
[10:45] <Killgore> bliss1_: no i had firefox it was fine
[10:45] <DBO> benn, try /dev/hda1
[10:46] <benn> DBO, yeehaw, that mounted the drive
[10:46] <DBO> benn, you need to specify the partition when mounting =P
[10:46] <benn> DBO, now how do i undo the destruction?
[10:46] <benn> *sips his noob juice*
[10:47] <Mau> hi!! does anyone can help me with my dvd player, please? i cant listen the dvd. The main audio do not start. I can hear just the efects and secundary saounds.
[10:47] <doms> how to use v4l-conf
[10:47] <DBO> benn, "sudo rm /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom"
[10:47] <DBO> erm
[10:47] <DBO> wait
[10:47] <smerity> hey, I'm unsure that I have a divxcodec for my system going (I downloaded win32 codecs, and all from mplayer.hq), is there a deb package somewhere for divx?
[10:47] <DBO> benn, where did you mount it too?
[10:47] <bliss1_> Killgore Blackbox is a modern window manager for X window syste
[10:47] <Killgore> bliss1_: yeah so you will need X installed
[10:48] <benn> DBO, /mnt/hd/ so just sudo rm /mnt/hd/etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom ?
[10:48] <DBO> benn, see, you dont need that noob juice so bad
[10:48] <saik0> !tell smerity about restrictedformats
[10:48] <benn> :)
[10:48] <bliss1_> Killgore: ok my question was without X
[10:48] <benn> DBO, should i try restarting now?
[10:48] <tsume> bah. I'll friggen develop a commercial HTML WYSIWYG for linux. Opensource is weak when it means no funding...
[10:48] <benn> or is there anything more
[10:48] <DBO> benn, yeah, and pray to your gods too
[10:48] <benn> haha
[10:48] <benn> *crosses fingers*
[10:48] <smerity> thanks saik0
[10:49] <Killgore> bliss1_: yeah that was my problem. I had to install X before i could get it working. Many frustrating hours
[10:49] <benn> thanks for all the help, i might be back soon..
[10:49] <PwcrLinux> Hmm my system load spikes nearly 2.00.. something going to get high?
[10:50] <DBO> PwcrLinux, erm, once more with clarity?
[10:50] <bliss1_> Killgore: so how its diffrent from other X mangers and why the frustration
[10:51] <Killgore> bliss1_: i didnt know you needed X
[10:51] <Killgore> bliss1_: its very, very lightweight
[10:51] <DBO> hehe, X gives you the pretties Killgore, without X, there is no pretties, just text
[10:51] <asdf25> anyone know what package i should install in Dapper to get the xorg fglrx driver?
[10:51] <PwcrLinux> DBO: let me get terminal box hence 2 users are mines (1 on Xwindows and 1 in terminal).
[10:51] <bliss1_> Killgore: is there a howto anywhere?
[10:52] <saik0> Killgore, Blackbox (or ANY WM) cannot run without an X server.
[10:52] <shredder_> Bunqueeda Sha na na Sobakwan Ubuntu
[10:52] <PwcrLinux> DBO: 03:51:52 up 1 day,  7:31,  2 users,  load average: 0.38, 0.50, 0.44
[10:52] <Killgore> bliss1_: i think i saw one on the forums, but that was coming from already installed ubuntu, i just had a server instal
[10:52] <PwcrLinux> right now it's better now
[10:52] <Killgore> bliss1_: otherwise its easy
[10:53] <DBO> PwcrLinux, so what is the problem?
[10:53] <bliss1_> Killgore: my other box is debian but not unbuntu it has no X but I will search the ubuntu forum
[10:54] <PwcrLinux> DBO: yea, I checked last time was nearly spikes at 2.00, probably heavy loads or I ran a system monitor. probably a system monitor loads up pretty much 20 MB into memory..
[10:54] <shredder_> If you get frustrated, just smash everything in sight.  You feel great.
[10:54] <yuion> some knows any good client for dc++ or somethign like that?
[10:54] <DBO> PwcrLinux, system monitor is not a very lightweight application
[10:54] <PwcrLinux> DBO: Oh
[10:55] <Celaborn> is there a way to drop down to the console (no X) and stay there without the GUI login coming back up?
[10:55] <yuion> linux have any dc client??
[10:55] <saik0> Celaborn, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:55] <Celaborn> saik0, and then just start it again if I want to go back into X?
[10:55] <bliss1_> shredder_ close the eyes count to ten take a hot bath meditate smasing does nothing but create a mess
[10:55] <DBO> Celaborn, what saik0 said will disable X for that session
[10:55] <Cin> Can someone direct me to a better repositiries list (I'm on the Breezy one)?
[10:56] <saik0> Celaborn, correct
[10:56] <Celaborn> thank you very much
[10:57] <shredder_> Try using a variable ruhimnustak with 0.46 witholding demarkation template.
[10:57] <doms> how can i creat a module  [ video                  16004  0 ]  i see that in lsmod command
[10:57] <DBO> !tell Cin about repos
[10:57] <doms> how can i creat a module  [ video  16004  0 ]  i see that in lsmod command
[10:57] <shredder_> Beer
[10:58] <DBO> where?
[10:58] <saik0> doms, you dont "create" kernel modules. try asking about what it is you need to do
[10:58] <matrix> Hi can anyone tell how to connect to vpn form ubuntu? Are there any gui for connting to VPN
[10:59] <shredder_> Yah Bun Tu hip hop spotlight
[10:59] <DBO> !tell matrix about VPN
[11:00] <Cin> Thanks DBO.
[11:00] <KenSentMe> good morning
[11:00] <DBO> morning
[11:00] <ziesemer> DBO, how does !tell work ?  Where's it come from?
[11:00] <DBO> who'se ken and why did he send you?
[11:00] <ziesemer> !tell ziesemer about repos
[11:00] <Bambino> !java
[11:00] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:00] <DBO> ziesemer, it triggers ubotu to tell someone about something
[11:01] <KenSentMe> DBO: Does the game Leisure Suit Larry ring a bell?
[11:01] <DBO> no
[11:01] <DBO> =P
[11:01] <matrix> Thanks
[11:01] <KenSentMe> DBO: it's a line used in that game
[11:02] <KenSentMe> DBO: by using this nick i recognize the real geaks :p
[11:02] <saik0> !tell Bambino about fishing
[11:02] <Remy> !fishing
[11:02] <ubotu> [fishing]  randomly throwing !commands in the channel instead of using /msg ubotu command. Please dont fish for help. either !ask in the channel or msg ubotu < Knows Everything!> :)
[11:02] <Remy> haha :)
[11:02] <Remy>  how ironic :)
[11:02] <shredder_> Slayer anyone?
[11:02] <DBO> very, now stop abusing poor ubotu
[11:02] <smerity> msg ubotu help
[11:02] <saik0> Remy, haha
[11:02] <Bambino> randomly throwing commands? saik0, that was my second time.
[11:02] <smerity> lol, oops ^_^
[11:03] <MenZa> http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm <- Good article I found on the forums. Definitely worth a read :)
[11:03] <saik0> Bambino, one is enough. you should only use them in the channel for helping other people
[11:03] <Knelix> So, who's trying to get Ubuntu to boot on a Mactel?
[11:03] <Knelix> :-)
[11:03] <saik0> Bambino, if you want to know something just msg ubotu
[11:04] <Bambino> saik0 k thanks
[11:04] <bliss1_> Killgore: ubuntu hoto on blackbox is quite recent quite a bag of tricks
[11:04] <DBO> MenZa, you mean... you mean I cant BSOD in linux... oh noes!  we're doomed [/silly]
[11:05] <GranMaestro> Hi everybody here, is anybody using a ppc build?
[11:05] <Killgore> bliss1_: yeah but it wasnt what i wanted EXACTLY, so i did it myself
[11:05] <Killgore> DBO: yeah just KERNEL-PANIC
[11:06] <GranMaestro> ppc not very popular among Linux users
[11:06] <shredder_> A Kernel of Korn
[11:06] <GranMaestro> Well, at least that's the impression..
[11:06] <Krhis> Try being a 64bit user.
[11:07] <DBO> PPC is a powerful architecture, but most PPC owners tend to be your standard mac user... aka want the same simplicity they get out of their toaster in a PC
[11:07] <shredder_> I know this, Elite group P4 motherboards just do't work with all ubuntu os
[11:08] <Knelix> The PPC G5 is 64bit.
[11:08] <Knelix> :-D
[11:08] <bliss1_> Killgore: one of the things I find with ubuntu is that they tell you how install it with apt-get then they say apt-get is not up to date get from tar or whatever but the support is just so good here and in the forum do you find that for some reason the repositories are not up to date?
[11:08] <Krhis> Yes, I know... But I've got an AMD64.
[11:09] <Killgore> bliss1_: yeah for some things like a programming language called scheme, the compiler is way out of date
[11:09] <Krhis> mmhmm
[11:10] <GranMaestro> Knelix: Krhis are you ppc users?
[11:11] <bliss1_> Killgore: it seems to me unlike the other debian os I just started useing is rock soild whereas ubuntu seems to not up date its repositories and do other things like forum support chat fride and other stuff
[11:11] <GranMaestro> Knelix: are you a  PPC user or Mactel?
[11:11] <Knelix> GranMaestro: I have PPC discs and I've run it via the live CD on my Macs before, but I mainly do run it on my AMD (non-64 bit) PC box.
[11:12] <shredder_> Fugger at http://www.xtremesystems.org/ is now using ubuntu in his overclocking benchmark world record times. he told me that it it runs 4 times faster than MS windows xp.
[11:12] <GranMaestro> Knelix: great, I was just wondering if you had any experience with Dapper on a Mac
[11:12] <Krhis> GranMaestro, AMD64.
[11:12] <bliss1_> Killgore what I ment was instead of updating repositories it gives support in chat and forum
[11:12] <GranMaestro> Krhis: tanks
[11:12] <Krhis> You're welcome, GranMaestro.
[11:13] <Knelix> With Apple leaving the PPC, it does seem that the PPC will experience even less popularity.
[11:13] <Killgore> bliss1_: dunno
[11:13] <GranMaestro> Question still remains.. anybody here using a ppc in this very moment?
[11:13] <MisterN> Knelix: what about the PS3, cell is PPC based, eh?
[11:13] <saimonn> hi
[11:13] <GranMaestro> 673 users online all on a PC? 8)
[11:14] <Knelix> GranMaestro: Sorry, I've very limited experience with Ubuntu on my Mac. I bought a PC to tun Ubuntu, so it wouldn't tie up my Macs.
[11:14] <bliss1_> Killgore: what did you want from blackbox that the howto did not offer?
[11:14] <Killgore> bliss1_: to install from the command-line or from a ubuntu server install
[11:14] <Knelix> MisterN: Ah, you're right. But that seems true mainly for the embedded and gaming market.
[11:14] <GranMaestro> Knelix: you are damn right, who needs Linux if you have OSX? :)
[11:14] <DBO> GranMaestro, I do
[11:14] <bliss1_> Killgore; yep good point
[11:15] <MisterN> Knelix: we'll see
[11:15] <Knelix> GranMaestro: Careful, they might burn us alive here for a comment like that... :-P
[11:15] <GranMaestro> DBO: You are my man
[11:15] <Knelix> MisterN: hey, I hope you're right! :-)
[11:15] <DBO> GranMaestro, I was tlaking about needing linux, not running PPC
[11:15] <GranMaestro> Knelix: I know, I started this to get some reaction.. ;)
[11:15] <Knelix> MisterN: I'm much more fond of the PPC than the x86.
[11:15] <DBO> GranMaestro, what is your problem?
[11:15] <ziesemer> DBO or whoever - I still can't get "Connect to Server" to work with Win2k3 even after the smb.conf edits.  From what I've read, supposedly smbfs just doesn't support is, that cifs needs to be used instead.  However, is that only useable from the terminal??
[11:15] <MisterN> oh, actually i don't trust the PPC any more
[11:16] <GranMaestro> DBO: I wanted to try dapper but cannot go any further than the boot screen
[11:16] <bliss1_> GranMaestro: is not the mac kernal  based on linux
[11:16] <Knelix> MisterN: i don't trust the powers that be. As far as the engineering and chip, though, I do.
[11:16] <saik0> bliss1_, no it's not
[11:16] <DBO> bliss1_, BSD, not linux
[11:16] <GranMaestro> bliss1_: I am no newbie
[11:17] <GranMaestro> Guys I have got Breezy running no problem
[11:17] <KenSentMe> if i install dapper now and update it when it's released in june, will it be different then when i wait for june and install the final version?
[11:17] <bliss1_> DBO: I went to a Mac show a year ago thats what I was told thanks DBO
[11:17] <MisterN> Knelix: well i was easily impressed by benchmarks in which PPC scored pretty bad. i am aware of the typical benchmark problems, though
[11:17] <GranMaestro> I just wanted to know if anybody got Dapper running but can't get the answer neither her or on the Dapper channel
[11:17] <saik0> bliss1_, they lied
[11:17] <DBO> GranMaestro, did you manage to get it installed or we talking the boot screen for the installer?
[11:17] <Tomcat_> KenSentMe: Not much.
[11:17] <DBO> bliss1_, the mac people lie
[11:18] <alon> i have 2 extra buttons in my mouse which should be used as back and forward when browsing. how can i set them to work?
[11:18] <KenSentMe> Tomcat_: what is different then?
[11:18] <GranMaestro> DBO: is that Dapper or Breezy?
[11:18] <DBO> ziesemer, I dont use CIFS, but my understanding is it layers on top of a GUI of some sort
[11:18] <DBO> GranMaestro, Dapper
[11:18] <saik0> !tell KenSentMe about mousebuttons
[11:18] <DBO> ziesemer, maybe this can help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12306
[11:18] <Tomcat_> KenSentMe: Well, if you use dapper now and change some configs, they will obviously stay when you update in June. Apart from that I can't think of anything...
[11:18] <GranMaestro> DBO: negative, no luck that's why I am asking here.. :(
[11:18] <sufa> anyone use desklets?
[11:19] <Tomcat_> sufa: Sure.
[11:19] <sexcopter8000m> hi, is there some kind of an equalizer that works across the whole system, rather than for individual applications? my new sub is just too loud! :s
[11:19] <DBO> GranMaestro, just a blank screen?  nothing happens?
[11:19] <sufa> Tomcat_,  any favorites?
[11:19] <DBO> GranMaestro, you dont even get to the first part of the install?
[11:19] <alon> i have 2 extra buttons in my mouse which should be used as back and forward when browsing. how can i set them to work?
[11:19] <sufa> or any good site to get them besides gdesklets.org ?
[11:19] <KenSentMe> saik0: is that something that changes?
[11:19] <GranMaestro> DBO: I get the live cd to boot as far as the Dapper splash screen, black screen with the installer.
[11:20] <Tomcat_> sufa: GoodWeather and<EMAIL_ADDRESS>no others :o
[11:20] <Madpilot> !tell alon about mouse
[11:20] <bliss1_> DBO: I have one arm longer than the other because of mac when they first brought out there so called labtop 1990 or somewhere around there just a kid them
[11:20] <Tomcat_> sufa: And I get them from gdesklets.org... no other sites. :o
[11:20] <GranMaestro> DBO: Have tried the expert mode and others to no luck
[11:20] <saik0> KenSentMe, wrong person sorry
[11:20] <KenSentMe> Tomcat_: and what about the looks of the desktop etc??
[11:20] <saik0> !tell alon about mousebuttons
[11:20] <DBO> GranMaestro, make a post to the forums, I think for now you are SOL with dapper (it is still beta for a reason)
[11:20] <holycow> sexcopter8000m: well gnome volume manager does ... i'm not sure where you get this /per applicatin stuff. look top right in gnome
[11:20] <GranMaestro> DBO: did you have a better result?
[11:20] <KenSentMe> saik0: np
[11:20] <ziesemer> DBO, I actually read that post, which just brings up even more issues.  :-)  Everything there requires root privileges, does it not??
[11:21] <DBO> ziesemer, yeah
[11:21] <sufa> thank you Tomcat_
[11:21] <DBO> ziesemer, what you dont have root?
[11:21] <GranMaestro> DBO: ther must be somewhere some people running it.. ;)
[11:21] <saik0> sexcopter8000m, run alsamixer from a terminal
[11:21] <sexcopter8000m> holycow, mine just shows master volume, no graphic equalizer...
[11:21] <sexcopter8000m> holycow, not that i can see anyways
[11:21] <DBO> GranMaestro, try #ubuntu+1
[11:21] <Tomcat_> KenSentMe: Well, that's in config files... so if you don't delete them in June, it will stay the way it is today.
[11:22] <GranMaestro> DBO: I already did spent some 20 minutes there prior to switch over to this channel.
[11:22] <KenSentMe> Tomcat_: ok
[11:22] <Tomcat_> KenSentMe: Some config files will be replaced when you update (unchanged system configs), but not all of them.
[11:22] <ziesemer> DBO - I'm the only user, and have sudo, at the moment.  This just doesn't seem right, though.  I should be able to easily connect to remove shares with standard user privileges.  I mean, this can even be done under windows!!  :-)
[11:22] <GranMaestro> DBO: no reaction at all
[11:22] <Tomcat_> KenSentMe: That's one reason why I reinstall for each release.
[11:22] <DBO> GranMaestro, I see, well I dont know what to say...
[11:22] <DBO> ziesemer, no, mounting shares is a root thing
[11:22] <sexcopter8000m> saik0, holycow my sub doesn't have its own channel, it's just a 2.1 setup thing
[11:22] <shredder_> some mother board chipsets will not work with all versions of the install and live cd ubuntu
[11:23] <KenSentMe> Tomcat_: then i think i'd better wait for the final and maybe test Dapper on a testing system
[11:23] <GranMaestro> DBO: :) thanks for trouble. It's always difficult to "think different"..
[11:23] <holycow> sexcopter8000m: i misunderstood you, you mean mixer as you said :)
[11:23] <holycow> try alsa mixer from repos, that should work i think
[11:23] <DBO> GranMaestro, please try to keep the macisms to a minimum ;-)
[11:24] <ziesemer> DBO - well, how does the "Connect to Server" currently work (with non SMB-signing) - that permits a standard user to work with remote shares (just not with Win2k3 atm)
[11:24] <DBO> samba isnt mounting a drive
[11:24] <ziesemer> DBO - yeah, kind of works like ftp, right?  And the mount just makes it appear as a mount?  (hence, smbfs?)
[11:24] <DBO> think of samba like how you think of ftp...  (ok, not on a technical level, but for general concept)
[11:25] <ziesemer> lol
[11:25] <DBO> ziesemer, smart cookie you are
[11:25] <DBO> ziesemer, CIFS requires mounting, thus requires root
[11:25] <ziesemer> So, is there a way to allow regular old users to either use CIFS, or allow users to mount to restricted locations?
[11:25] <DBO> if samba gets support (or has) for the signatures, root access would not longer be required
[11:26] <shredder_> My hard drive mounted her software
[11:26] <DBO> ziesemer, if you put the entry in /etc/fstab, it should work for everyone
[11:26] <DBO> all the time
[11:26] <Knelix> shredder: Uhm.. say that again...
[11:26] <shredder_> yeah
[11:27] <DBO> shredder_, I think I said that to one of my girlfriends once...
[11:27] <ziesemer> DBO - Just to understand, fstab and all these other options solve my immediate need...  But there still seems to be a part of the picture missing here...
[11:27] <shredder_> Very technical application
[11:28] <holycow> sexcopter8000m: you know what? just ignore me.  i thought i had a clue on this one but honestly, i'm giving yhou some terrible advice
[11:28] <ziesemer> For example, say I'll have 100 students using this box.  Do all 100 students' shares on the file server need to be put in fstab so they can be used?
[11:28] <holycow> sexcopter8000m: hang around, someone else might actually have a clue
[11:28] <holycow> >_>
[11:28] <ziesemer> (as every student should have access to their and only to their share)
[11:28] <DBO> ziesemer, uhhh... yeah that doesnt sound like a good fix...
[11:28] <ziesemer> :-(  :-)
[11:28] <DBO> ziesemer, that would get you a HUGE fstab fast
[11:29] <ziesemer> Not to mention, I'd need to gather all their passwords and put them in there.
[11:29] <shredder_> Heard of the new divorce Barbi?
[11:29] <DBO> ziesemer, have you tried (I know I know) disabling the signing?
[11:29] <cusco> anyanyone here using a zydas chipset on a wireless device?
[11:29] <shredder_> She comes with all ken's shit
[11:30] <ziesemer> I'm sure if I disable the signing, it would work.  Again, another workaround, but still not the ideal solution.  :-)
[11:30] <ompaul> !CoC
[11:30] <ubotu> somebody said coc was the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[11:30] <mareks> anyone know how to stop X so that i can install nvidia driver?
[11:30] <sexcopter8000m> holycow, hehe, no worries, i'm looking for myself in synaptic, there's a few possibles
[11:31] <cusco> mareks: killall -9 gdm
[11:31] <DBO> ziesemer, my expertise is not with microsoft, can you disable signing on a per share basis?
[11:31] <ziesemer> Nope.  Only per server.
[11:31] <saik0> mareks, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:31] <DBO> ziesemer, perhaps setting up a server for the linux boxes?
[11:31] <saik0> mareks, are you installing it via the nvidia installer or from packages?
[11:32] <ziesemer> DBO.  :-)  Yep.  Another workaround.  (Sorry for being so pessimistic - you're trying to be so helpful, but we're just not getting anywhere.  :-)
[11:32] <mareks> saik0, perfect thank you
[11:32] <DBO> ziesemer, Im afraid workarounds might be all there is to offer... short of getting down and dirty with samba and programming...
[11:33] <ziesemer> I suppose most places that have any *nix boxes are probably using *nix servers, so no one else really has this problem??
[11:33] <mareks> when trying to install nvidia driver, got strange message: No precompiled kernel interface found. I have the option for the installer to download a kernel interface? Yes or No?
[11:34] <DBO> ziesemer, oh I know our microsoft guy here had that problem... so I just set up samba shares on a couple nix boxes and away we went
[11:34] <DBO> ziesemer, AFAIK you do have to disable signing
[11:34] <DBO> samba simply doesnt support it
[11:35] <evader> how do i get amule to work
[11:35] <ziesemer> DBO - That's what I've seen, which makes the "client signing = auto" documentation all the more interesting.  :-)  Guess maybe this is something to post to the samba lists, just for clarification...
[11:35] <saik0> evader, try being as specific as possible
[11:36] <DBO> ziesemer, like I said, we had this issue about a year ago, and didnt really have the time to mess with it, but I hope things have changed since then
[11:36] <ziesemer> DBO - Or, what are the possibilities of making a browseable interface using cifs instead of samba?  :-)
[11:36] <ompaul> for multiple shares you could run xen with a share on each xen instance and different rules for each
[11:36] <holycow> ziesemer: perhaps you needto think about file sharing a bit differently ...
[11:36] <shredder_> Two words that chicks don't dig micro and soft, Someone should really start a macrohard venture.
[11:36] <holycow> ziesemer: perhaps something like ifolder.com is the right solution
[11:37] <ziesemer> (reading link)
[11:37] <mantono> How do I compile packages with apt-get? I had a command for it in .bashrc, but I lost it.
[11:37] <holycow> ziesemer: i've also setup sharing via sshfs
[11:37] <jad_> would it be a problem if I chown /opt to user.user instead of root ?
[11:37] <saik0> shredder_, you forgot that it's not the size that counts but how much money you have
[11:38] <holycow> but it really depends what you need, i'm not really an authority on any of these so don't expect too many answers from me :) just tossing some info out there
[11:38] <shredder_> Your somewhat correct, Money is king
[11:39] <ompaul> shredder_,  care to clean up the conversation in line with the CoC - we would like this channel to G rated
[11:39] <DBO> sshfs isnt a great idea for large deployment...
[11:39] <shredder_> Oh yeah, no prob
[11:39] <ziesemer> holycow - cool ideas, but just another workaround.  :-)  Sorry for bringing this to the Ubuntu list, as really, I'm finding it's a *nix problem in general...
[11:39] <DBO> ziesemer, we handle those too =P
[11:40] <DBO> ziesemer, the client signing bit you have been talking about is not dealing with outbound connections but inbound (i believe)
[11:41] <zuokanyunqi> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins tallation and add the correct paths!
[11:41] <ziesemer> Consider the following situation...  Working in a school environment, with a few hundred students.  Primarily a windows environment.  Lots of shares on Win2k3 servers - public folders, user folders, etc, etc.  Works great for everyone - from the old Win98 boxes, to WinXP teacher laptops, to PocketPC's - even my Palm!
[11:41] <zuokanyunqi> what does this mean
[11:41] <evader> saik0: I did apt-get install amule. It's installed. Now, I clicked on the ED2K tab and did 'get server list', and it says the server list is in the incorrect format
[11:42] <ziesemer> Now I want to add just a handful of *nix boxes.  Should be able to get them to connect to the existing infrastructure without having to change the infrastructure.  Not so easy, I guess.  :-)
[11:42] <saik0> evader, I've never used amule. But I'm sure thats much more likey to get a response from somebody who can help.
[11:42] <DBO> ziesemer, there must be a way
[11:42] <DBO> we will find it
[11:43] <sophtpaw> aloha
[11:43] <ziesemer> DBO - I'd be quite surprised if there wasn't.  Finding it is the challenge.  And this is after hours upon hours of searching through Google, the newgroups, etc, etc...  :-)
[11:43] <evader> anyone can help with my above mentioned amule problem?
[11:44] <zuokanyunqi> i was compiling kile1.9 could anyone give me some suggestions
[11:44] <zuokanyunqi> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins tallation and add the correct paths!
[11:44] <zuokanyunqi> ./confuguer give me this
[11:44] <ziesemer> I need to sign-off here shortly...  Feel free to contact me through www.ziesemer.com if you think of anything.  :-)  Thanks for all your help!!
[11:44] <DBO> ziesemer, darn it, you got me interesting now, I wont sleep till I figure out where the configuration error is...
[11:44] <robaqqq> hi all i have problem with my wifi setup - i'm using a hotspot and it disconnects me every few minutes. deactivating and activating eth1 (wifi acrd) helps only for few minutes. any ideas?
[11:44] <sophtpaw> is it apt-get edubuntu-desktop?
[11:45] <MenZa> I believe so, sophtpaw?
[11:45] <MenZa> I'm not entirely sure though
[11:45] <sphinx> hi
[11:45] <saik0> zuokanyunqi, i belive that you need xserver-xorg-dev
[11:45] <sophtpaw> MenZa: thx
[11:45] <shredder_> WiFi repeater amp
[11:45] <sphinx> i need sum help
[11:45] <sophtpaw> Ubuntu rocks
[11:45] <MenZa> Correct, sophtpaw. sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[11:45] <MenZa> http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=edubuntu-desktop
[11:45] <DBO> ziesemer, what happens when you try to connect?
[11:45] <neutrinomass> Aren't RAR archives supposedly handled by 'rar' or 'unrar' ? Why is it that I cannot install it (ie. it doesn't exist in the repositories )?
[11:45] <MenZa> sophtpaw: got that right :)
[11:46] <ompaul> sophtpaw,  don't forget sudo :)
[11:46] <sophtpaw> MenZa: kewl-i thought so, with 'sudo' too of course
[11:46] <sphinx> how do I set the root psw in ubuntu? I installed mine and it never asked for root and now I cant install updates
[11:46] <MenZa> sophtpaw: indeed :)
[11:46] <sophtpaw> ompaul: i never forget sudo - I love sudo!
[11:46] <saik0> neutrinomass, have you added the universe and multiverse repositories?
[11:46] <MenZa> sphinx: your own password.
[11:46] <ziesemer> DBO - keeps prompting for password over and over.
[11:46] <MenZa> !tell sphinx about rootsudo
[11:46] <alon> when i restart gnome by ctrl+alt+backspace it is changed to text mode, how can i return to gnome graphical mode?
[11:46] <DBO> ziesemer, enter "smbclient //xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/FOLDER -U administrator" into a command prompt
[11:46] <ompaul> sphinx, read wiki.ubuntu.coim/RootSudo
[11:46] <ziesemer> Logs on Win2k3 box make everything appear succesful.
[11:46] <robaqqq> shredder_, wifi repeater amp?
[11:46] <MenZa> alon: startx
[11:47] <DBO> (obviously fill in the blanks ziesemer)
[11:47] <saik0> alon, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:47] <neutrinomass> saik0: Yes. It doesn't show up in synaptic and apt-get install rar (and apt-get install unrar ) tell me that "package has no installation candidate" ...
[11:47] <MenZa> saik0: I suppose that's another way of doing it :)
[11:47] <sphinx> cheers
[11:47] <shredder_> Some onboard LAN cards are not recognized by ubuntu and can create a prob
[11:47] <alon> saik0 startx seems to be simpler, but thanks although
[11:47] <MenZa> alon: indeed ;)
[11:47] <neutrinomass> (this is on Dapper. I think that for some reason the package went missing a while ago, or so I found out on launchpad )
[11:47] <saik0> alon, startx will run X without the display manager
[11:47] <mareks> name of good IRC client for linux?
[11:48] <MenZa> mareks: irssi
[11:48] <ziesemer> DBO - appears successful - at smb prompt
[11:48] <Krhis> Xchat is basic.
[11:48] <robaqqq> shredder_, its atheros pcmcia card
[11:48] <mareks> thanks menza
[11:48] <DBO> ziesemer, you cann access the share?
[11:48] <saik0> mareks, for GNOME use xchat, for console irssi rocks
[11:48] <sophtpaw> X-chat
[11:48] <ziesemer> Dunno - need to see how to do something here to truly test it..
[11:48] <MenZa> mareks: I'm not sure if it comes with Ubuntu. If not, sudo apt-get install irssi
[11:48] <MenZa> Otherwise just type in "irssi", without the quotes.
[11:48] <saik0> neutrinomass, did you apt-get update after adding the repos?
[11:48] <Krhis> I'm chatting in #xchat right now... ironic.
[11:49] <mareks> you guys are all awesome help thankx
[11:49] <mareks> thanks*
[11:49] <MenZa> np :)
[11:49] <Krhis> Anytime.
[11:49] <ziesemer> DBO - YES, I'm connected.  ?!?
[11:49] <robaqqq> shredder_, how to check that it works oproperly?
[11:49] <neutrinomass> saik0, well I "reloaded" in synaptic which is the same thing, right?
[11:49] <MenZa> It's what we're here for :)
[11:49] <ziesemer> So why doesn't it work from "Connect to Server" ??
[11:49] <DBO> ziesemer, because I never work int he GUI?
[11:49] <saik0> neutrinomass, yes
[11:50] <shredder_>  Yes a WiFi repeater amplifier will get a strong signal in areas where there is signal weakness. I know that there is repeater amps available for cell phone signal
[11:50] <DBO> ziesemer, now Im going to feel really dumb if this is the problem we had way back when...
[11:50] <saik0> neutrinomass, put the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin for me
[11:50] <shredder_> The card or the WiFi amp?
[11:50] <harisund> I have a quick question, if I have multiple DHCP clients (dhclient and pump) which one will the system take as default?
[11:50] <DBO> ziesemer, type "dir" do you see the files on the share?
[11:50] <evader> Is there a way to have NetworkManager switch to a static-ip network
[11:50] <evader> ?
[11:51] <ziesemer> Yes, hence the "it actually works".  :-)
[11:51] <DBO> ziesemer, sorry, its hard to figure out what "it actually works" is at times...
[11:51] <NanoBCN> hi, anyone here can help me with PAM db authorization for virtual users of vsftpd?!
[11:51] <neutrinomass> saik0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11953
[11:52] <ziesemer> sry, of course
[11:52] <DBO> ziesemer, what are you entering into the "Connect to server" box?
[11:52] <ziesemer> I'm tired.  :-)
[11:52] <MenZa> What WM/DE does Edubuntu use by standard?
[11:52] <DBO> 6AM here ziesemer, its cool, totally understand=)
[11:52] <evader> Anyone no how to make NetworkManager switch to my non-dhcp network?
[11:52] <saik0> neutrinomass, for dapper you should be in #ubuntu+1
[11:53] <PwcrLinux> irssi almost like BitchX. that's new to me
[11:53] <holycow> evader: just create a new network profile and select it
[11:53] <ziesemer> First attempt was just the machine name in the "server name", and a share name in "share name".
[11:53] <evader> holycow: How do I create a network profile, where are they stored?
[11:53] <neutrinomass> saik0: Oh, sorry (I mentioned this was Dapper earlier btw, not trying to trick you or anything ;) . Thanks a lot.
[11:54] <DBO> ziesemer, put the ip in the server field, nothing in share, the folder name in folder, the username in Username, and nothing else
[11:54] <harisund> I have a quick question, if I have multiple DHCP clients (dhclient and pump) which one will the system take as default?
[11:54] <ziesemer> According to the Wiki entry, that works for XP (which it does) but for Win2k3, use "machine/Share" in "server name" instead, and leave share blank.  When trying to open that, though, it comes back with "Sorry, couldn't display all the contents", and I see nothing.
[11:54] <lucasvo> how can I make a right-click on a Mac iBook?
[11:54] <Firefox_8> instruction Google Adsense-->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm                 Download free Firefox -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm
[11:54] <holycow> evader, system/admin/networking ... look at the location pulldown
[11:54] <ziesemer> What is "folder name" ?
[11:54] <lucasvo> (using ubuntu)
[11:54] <Firefox_8> instruction Google Adsense-->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm                 Download free Firefox -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm
[11:54] <evader> holycow: I'm using ubuntu
[11:54] <cusco> after I compiled something
[11:54] <cusco> how do I make a deb package?
[11:54] <evader> oops
[11:54] <cusco> out of it
[11:54] <evader> hollywoodstar: xubuntu
[11:55] <evader> holycow: sorry that was for you^
[11:55] <hollywoodstar> grr
[11:55] <webserver> having a difficulty getting the proper resolutions listed in the resolution settings, any help?
[11:55] <webserver> (Graphics driver installed properly and working)
[11:56] <ziesemer> DBO - adding "client use spnego = yes" into smb.conf is what let me get smbclient working...  Now why the GUI is still having issues is the question....
[11:56] <evader> holycow: any idea?
[11:57] <sphinx> another question: which kernel is better for centrino 386 or 686?
[11:57] <DBO> ziesemer, thats a very good questions ziesemer, are you using the IP in the GUI and not netbios (use IP)
[11:57] <holycow> evader: what kind of reply is that? did you think i was giving you an answer for suse or redhat?
[11:57] <holycow> evader: which part of my answer are you stuck on?
[11:57] <saik0> neutrinomass, try this sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11954
[11:57] <evader> holycow: I gave you the wrong reply. I'm sorry. I meant to say xubuntu.
[11:58] <evader> XFCE, not gnome, so where can I create the profiles?
[11:58] <evader> what file is it stored in?
[11:58] <ziesemer> Will try IP...
[11:58] <holycow> what is xubuntu? ah xfce, go ask the xfce guys then :)
[11:58] <webserver> ideas anyone on the resolution issue?
[11:58] <ziesemer> Thing is, the hostname even works with smbclient...
[11:58] <webserver> is there a config file that lists available resolutions?
[11:58] <holycow> evader: sorry bro, not really sure, i can only give answers for gnome
[11:58] <DBO> ziesemer, I never liked hostnames
[11:59] <evader> holycow: can you point me in the direction of a channel that might be able to help?
[11:59] <ziesemer> I'm not about to have students start remembering ip addresses.  (Though typically, I remember the ip and forget the hostname.  :-)
[11:59] <holycow> evader: there appears to be #xfce ... :/ not really sure beyond that my friend, sorry
[12:00] <DBO> ziesemer, thats very kind of you =P
[12:00] <holycow> ziesemer: how do you guys managed teh shares, active directory for win users right?
[12:00] <ziesemer> Oh WOW - that actually works!  Using IP instead of hostname...
[12:00] <ziesemer> holycow, yes
[12:00] <DBO> holycow, we can actually get in, its just the GUI thats messing up
[12:00] <holycow> yeah its not really a *nix* issue at all
[12:00] <ziesemer> I can even browse the available shares and work from there, which is VERY cool.
[12:01] <holycow> its the samba client on *nix* thats the problem
[12:01] <holycow> as well as ms extending smb in undocumented ways
[12:01] <DBO> ziesemer, good
[12:01] <ziesemer> So, is this a bug in the GUI client?
[12:01] <ziesemer> BTW, what happened to the "trash" icon on the desktop?
[12:01] <sovieticool> i have a 5.1 sisten on a karajan sound card ! how i set alsa to be alble to hear in all speackers ?
[12:01] <DBO> ziesemer, I take full responsibility for nothing, but if you need someone to blame for your students having to remember an IP, Im your man
[12:02] <DBO> ziesemer, in GNOME?
[12:02] <ziesemer> yes
[12:02] <holycow> ziesemer: hard to say, it could either be gui, or could be protocol level.  the gnome client is terrible, as are all samba clients i have ever tried on linux
[12:02] <DBO> Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editior
[12:03] <DBO> ziesemer, then apps -> nautilus -> desktop
[12:03] <sovieticool> now i hear in only 4 speaker ..center and subwoofer don't work ~
[12:03] <DBO> ziesemer, check trash_iconf_visible
[12:03] <sovieticool> help me someone ?
[12:03] <ziesemer> Ahh, apps.  I was looking under desktop.    :-)  Thanks!
[12:03] <holycow> oh your making it like a win desktop?
[12:03] <holycow> *ew* c'mon man, teach them how to organize theird desktops :)
[12:03] <DBO> ziesemer, its a perfectly logical place to look =P
[12:04] <ziesemer> holycow, this one's for ME.  :-)
[12:04] <shrewduser> i have sound issues :(
[12:04] <holycow> heh
[12:04] <shrewduser> why does ubuntu choke with sound?
[12:04] <holycow> DBO: ha! me leash fell off
[12:04] <shrewduser> how do i restart sound service?
[12:05] <DBO> holycow, you are the first cow Ive ever met capable of pouncing
[12:05] <DBO> ziesemer, come back from time to time, let us know how things go
[12:05] <DBO> Im here... all the time... let me know =)
[12:05] <holycow> DBO: gnu does that to ya
[12:06] <ziesemer> Ok, so, now that we basically have a handle on this smb stuff...  Basically, the GUI has an issue with host names vs. IP - but only for Win2k3...  Should we bug report this somewhere??
[12:06] <shredder_> I would say to test each speaker out on a simple output to make sure that your sub and center work. May not be the sound card config at all. Speakers go bad.
[12:06] <DBO> ziesemer, Im sure they are quite aware
[12:06] <ziesemer> DBO - Then why didn't any of our web searches find it?? :-)
[12:06] <DBO> ziesemer, because we suck at google?
[12:06] <shrewduser> how do i restart alsa?
[12:07] <holycow> ziesemer: your next project is to wait for samba 4, then replace all your windows servers that handle sharing with a debian/samba4 config
[12:07] <shrewduser> i want to restart my sound service...
[12:07] <holycow> including the ad
[12:07] <sovieticool> know somebody how to set alsa for 5.1 sistem genius ?
[12:07] <saik0> DBO and ziesemer, so it's a GnomeVFS thing?
[12:07] <DBO> shrewduser, "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart"
[12:07] <shrewduser> thanks :)
[12:07] <muie_borcea> hi guys, i just want to dump gstreamer and install totem-xine. my question is: after gstreamer+its plugins removal and totem-xine installation, will i be able to play the same multimedia i was able to play with gstreamer? does xine uses the same plugin system? do i need to install xine plugins?
[12:07] <DBO> saik0, my guess is its just this samba client
[12:07] <DBO> there are many, and they all suck
[12:07] <Shrieve> !flash
[12:07] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:07] <PwcrLinux> shrewduser: check on PCM should be ticked on it..
[12:08] <muie_borcea> !totem-gstreamer
[12:08] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, muie_borcea
[12:08] <ziesemer> We need to get the page at http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq?highlight=%28breezy%29 edited to reflect this...
[12:08] <holycow> muie_borcea: not the same, but close.  the development of either is independent of each other so one can never expect similar functionality
[12:08] <adampong> hallo
[12:08] <MisterN> culater
[12:08] <mjr> muie_borcea, you don't need to remove gstreamer to use totem-xine, and totem-xine uses xine codecs, which are pretty much installed automatically with it
[12:08] <ziesemer> It's not a wiki, and thus not editable, I'm afraid....
[12:08] <saik0> !tell muie_borcea about fishing
[12:08] <holycow> muie_borcea: also gstreqamer is much improved in dapper, just a heads up
[12:08] <bliss1_> FlannelKing: saew the ubuntu howto on blackbox, now do you fell like telling me how you did it?
[12:08] <adampong> wer sprechen hier deutsch?
[12:09] <shrewduser> PwcrLinux: hey? PCM? ticked on what?
[12:09] <ziesemer> saik0 / DBO - How can it be a samba client issue, when "smbclient hostname" works flawlessly?
[12:09] <muie_borcea> mjr, but when dpkg-ing totem-xine it tells me that it is not compatible with gstreamer
[12:09] <shrewduser> i couldn't find a file called alsa, just alsa-utils
[12:09] <mjr> muie_borcea, it conflicts with totem-gstreamer, yes, but not with gstreamer as such
[12:09] <saik0> muie_borcea, totme can use either gstreamer as a backend, or xine
[12:09] <sovieticool> muie_borcea roman tata ?
[12:09] <DBO> ziesemer, well, the flaw exists when we use the client, but not when we dont...  through my wonderful ability to deduce... I have concluded (perhaps wrongly) that the issue is with the client
[12:10] <shrewduser> nm i think i got it
[12:10] <DBO> ziesemer, =)
[12:10] <shrewduser> *sigh* still no sound...
[12:10] <bliss1_> FlannelKing: just put it in the paste bin
[12:10] <shrewduser> time for a reboot
[12:10] <ziesemer> DBO - Oh, by client, you don't mean smbclient ?
[12:10] <DBO> ziesemer, no, I mean the connect to server thing
[12:10] <PwcrLinux> shrewduser: go open on speaker icon > Open Volume Control and if you see the PCM on the list//
[12:10] <DBO> the GUI frontend
[12:10] <ziesemer> Agreed.
[12:11] <holycow> gui frontend is also sloooooooow
[12:11] <DBO> and prompts for the password 10 billion times
[12:11] <shrewduser> yes
[12:11] <ziesemer> It's actually not that bad - and I'm even operating within VMWare Server!
[12:11] <ziesemer> No password prompting issues.
[12:11] <shrewduser> pwcrlinux: yes
[12:11] <DBO> ziesemer, try typing the wrong password, then hitting cancel, at least with FTP, this will get you the result of it just asking again... and again... and again...
[12:12] <ziesemer> Point taken.
[12:12] <El> ola
[12:12] <PwcrLinux> shrewduser: okay move the PCM bar up to about 80%
[12:12] <shrewduser> and enable it?
[12:12] <DBO> ziesemer, so are you good to go?
[12:12] <serge> Where is the eggdrop.conf file created when trying to install it with "apt-get install eggdrop" Silly way to install eggdrop I know, but TCL just does'nt like me. Any ideas?
[12:12] <holycow> ziesemer: samaba4 is supposed to be super evil, from a demo it is supposed to be able to suck out an ad db infrastrucgture, an dcompletely replace a win ad server
[12:12] <PwcrLinux> shrewduser: yes to enable it
[12:13] <holycow> :) ziesemer ad it to your todo list :)
[12:13] <shrewduser> done...
[12:13] <remke> join /#ubuntu-nl
[12:13] <ziesemer> I'm leaps and bounds ahead of where I was a few hours ago...  I even got ssh access working, my trash icon on my desktop :-), etc...
[12:13] <shrewduser> "Couldn't open audio."
[12:13] <ziesemer> I still want this fixed.  :-)  But thanks to DBO and all for all your help.
[12:13] <yuion> how to get up the boot menu before staring ubuntu?
[12:13] <DBO> ziesemer, if you WANT, there are other GUI frontends for samba you could try
[12:13] <bliss1_> nickrud: in your office or bed
[12:13] <holycow> ziesemer: check out sshfs sometime, its sweet
[12:14] <muie_borcea> sovieticool > are you there? ;p
[12:14] <sovieticool> yes
[12:14] <DBO> holycow, I dont know sshfs is a good idea for several hundred studends...
[12:14] <sovieticool> :D
[12:14] <shrewduser> nvm i will reboot
[12:14] <sovieticool> u are from romania
[12:14] <sovieticool> ?
[12:14] <mareks_> fixed my resolution issue, i highly recommend the ubuntu wiki
[12:14] <holycow> DBO: its not :) he seems to be curious
[12:14] <holycow> :) hehe
[12:14] <PwcrLinux> shrewduser: oh, what is your sound card brand and model?
[12:14] <muie_borcea> sovieticool > da dom'le, sunt roman. da' de ce nu raspunzi in privat?
[12:14] <mcf501> i am trying to install ubuntu on an old pc (meets min spec) but this dell pc wont let be get to the bios to enable boot from cd, any ideas?
[12:14] <sovieticool> da nu mere privat
[12:14] <DBO> holycow, ok, I see what you are at now, I thought you were making a rather odd suggestion...
[12:15] <ziesemer> Will do, about sshfs.
[12:15] <serge> Where is the eggdrop.conf file created when trying to install it with "apt-get install eggdrop" Silly way to install eggdrop I know, but TCL just does'nt like me. Any ideas?
[12:15] <sovieticool> hai pe #ubuntu-ro
[12:15] <muie_borcea> sovieticool > hai
[12:15] <pip_> Anybody who can help me ?
[12:15] <saik0> serge, man slocate
[12:15] <pip_> I made a bad mistake in ubuntu
[12:15] <pip_> can I recovery them
[12:15] <fcarde> ajsjfkajsaskafkll
[12:15] <pip_> Anybody who can help me
[12:16] <mareks_> anyone know of a good codec package? one that includes xvid (and possibly wmv, mov support)?
[12:16] <fcarde> carajkfkasjfkajksfmak
[12:16] <mareks_> and heck, the name of a good linux media player?
[12:16] <DBO> ziesemer, if you want to try other samba clients, there is tksmb, xsmbrowser... and many more, maybe they wont have the glitch
[12:16] <DBO> ziesemer, they are all in universe repos
[12:16] <fcarde> guachu cguachu
[12:16] <gnomefreak> did they change the nvidia drivers/settings from 2.6.15-19 to 2.6.15-20
[12:16] <pip_> Ubugtu:I made a mistake in ubuntu ,can I recovery my files deleted?
[12:17] <fcarde> me hacen el favor de hablar el castellano
[12:17] <shredder_> vlc media player. Is this the best one?
[12:17] <ziesemer> Say I use another front-end - is that picked up by other applications?  For example, right now, I open gedit, and I can open any of my existing shares...
[12:17] <DBO> ziesemer, should be
[12:17] <gnomefreak> fcarde: /join #ubuntu-es
[12:17] <mcf501> !install ubuntu
[12:17] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mcf501
[12:17] <gnomefreak> nm than
[12:17] <gnomefreak> mcf501: what are you looking for?
[12:17] <hyso> Hi, anyone tried the dapper ntfs write support?
[12:18] <ziesemer> Yet, OpenOffice, for example, only displays actual mounts.  :-(  Which comes back to finding a viable way for users to have their own mounts.  But I think that's another topic for another day...
[12:18] <gnomefreak> hyso: no and i wouldnt till after its stable
[12:18] <saik0> hyso, try #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[12:18] <DBO> ziesemer, smbfs
[12:18] <DBO> ziesemer, "sudo apt-get install smbfs"
[12:18] <mcf501> gnomefreak: trying to install ubuntu on this dell but it wont let be get into the bios to enable boot from cdrom
[12:18] <DBO> that can handle the mounting issue
[12:18] <hyso> saik0, ok thanks
[12:19] <gnomefreak> mcf501: are you using the right key combos to evter the bios?
[12:19] <ziesemer> I thought we just said users can't create mounts...
[12:19] <hyso> gnomefreak, I heard the ntfs write support reached better stability...
[12:19] <pip_> gnomefreak:Can I recover my deleted files in ubuntu
[12:19] <DBO> ziesemer, what do I know?
[12:19] <saik0> ziesemer, are we talking WIn clients or *nix clients?
[12:19] <pip_> gnomefreak:can you help me ?
[12:19] <mcf501> gnomefreak: it doesn't tell be the keys, just fast boots windows, i have been trying to mash random keys atm (well the normal ones)
[12:19] <DBO> ziesemer, to be honest, Im not usre if smbfs needs root or not...
[12:20] <gnomefreak> hyso: dapper isnt stable writing to ntfs i feel is not a high priority so i would wait (personal  opinion)
[12:20] <gnomefreak> mcf501: try F2
[12:20] <ziesemer> saik0 - trying to find a viable solution for allowing *nix users to connect to existing Windows servers.
[12:20] <Snake[Sleep] > Can some gnome guru tell me how I can set MP3s to open with rythmbox
[12:20] <holycow> gnomefreak: dude, there is no such thing as ntfs write, please forget at ntfs write
[12:20] <gnomefreak> dell loves F2
[12:20] <mcf501> gnomefreak: tryed, ah got it, it was esc and then delete
[12:20] <hyso> gnomefreak, ok
[12:20] <gnomefreak> holycow: as stated before yes dapper should beable to and i was telling him to wait til stable to find out
[12:21] <saik0> ziesemer, restricted to SMB?
[12:21] <holycow> gnomefreak: or anyone else out there: ntfs projects for writing to that file system are all defunct.  no one is bothering wasting their life trying to reverse engineer something that is complicated, undocumented and changes from release to release
[12:21] <DBO> saik0, we got smb connected already
[12:21] <holycow> gnomefreak: dapper has ntfs write planned? really? thats a mofo huge project i seriously doubt any intention for such support
[12:22] <Krhis> Snake__, Right click the MP3 file, and click Open With.
[12:22] <gnomefreak> holycow: thats one of the things they were "sopposed to add"
[12:22] <Krhis> Err.... sorry.
[12:22] <ziesemer> FYI, Ctrl+L, smb:// has the exact same issue.  hostname fails, IP works.
[12:22] <janine> joint canal
[12:22] <DBO> gnomefreak, wont happen
[12:22] <Krhis> Right click the MP3 file, Properties, and click Open With.
[12:22] <DBO> ziesemer, sounds like a nautilus issue then
[12:22] <shredder_> Add applications should help you run mp3's on rythembox
[12:23] <Snake__> Krhis: I tried that, it doesnt want to work, or is there something im missing, I check rythmbox, then I double click the icon, and it still opens in totem
[12:23] <gnomefreak> DBO: dont know im not working on it so i cant say for sure. personally i dont need it nor want it thats why i have duel boot
[12:23] <holycow> gnomefreak: the only way its going to be added is if someone rips out the win dll and uses some backend to give interaction to the disks.  other than that i dont see it happening at all ... and frankly you cant redistribute windows dlls
[12:23] <Pupeno> I am being told on #evolution on irc.gnome.org that Evolution requries spamassasin to do junk filtering, is this true ? Ubuntu doesn't install spamassassin by default, why ?
[12:23] <Alapzaj> wich parameter must i mount root fs after init=/bin/bash hack?
[12:23] <Krhis> Pupeno, yes, it's true.
[12:23] <pip_> Pupeno:excuse me ,can you help me ?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> Pupeno: its one of the apps you can use
[12:23] <saik0> DBO and ziesemer, perhaps theres something intresting you could hack together with FUSE and PAM?
[12:24] <DBO> ziesemer, checking out smbfs?
[12:24] <Krhis> Snake__, hit the close buttion?
[12:24] <mareks_> alright im off to bed. thanks for the help guys. night
[12:24] <Pupeno> pip_: do you need help particularly from me ?
[12:24] <Pupeno> gnomefreak: what do you mean ?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Pupeno: theres no need for it as default (if they enabled everything people wanted in the default install you would have 35 disks like debian)
[12:24] <kingspawn> Alapzaj: mount /dev/whatever / doesnt work?
[12:24] <johnny06> hi,anybody usinig debian sarge in here
[12:24] <Krhis> Yay for net install.
[12:25] <Snake__> I'm beginning to dislike gnome again
[12:25] <kingspawn> johnny06: #debian
[12:25] <gnomefreak> johnny06: that would be in #debian
[12:25] <Alapzaj> i want to mount rw
[12:25] <shredder_> Right click on any song or video and choose other application other than totem. VLC seems to work good for videos.
[12:25] <Snake__> johnny06: ohh thats an awesome topic to bring to #ubuntu :P :)
[12:25] <johnny06> ok
[12:25] <johnny06> sorry
[12:25] <Krhis> Snake__, and what did you do last time?
[12:25] <Snake__> Krhis: what do you mean?
[12:25] <kingspawn> one mustnever use totem
[12:25] <Pupeno> gnomefreak: they don't include spamassassin which is needed to spam filter by the default mail application but includes bogofilter ? I think spam filtering in the default mail application is important enough to include it.
[12:25] <kingspawn> its evil and extremely annoying
[12:25] <Snake__> kingspawn: I agree
[12:25] <DBO> saik0, aint no way Im taking that flag and running with it... FUSE is a pain as it is...
[12:25] <Krhis> You said you had the same problem with gnome?
[12:26] <saik0> DBO yea...youre right
[12:26] <pip_> Pupeno:yes,I need your help .and I wanna ask how I can recover the deleted files by mistake.
[12:26] <saik0> theres still this http://pam-mount.sourceforge.net/
[12:26] <carsten> Hi. Is there a boot-parameter which disables sata in the live-cds? I get a kernel-oops in sata
[12:26] <Pupeno> pip_: why don't you just ask the channel ? (I don't know how to do that anyway).
[12:26] <ziesemer> DBO - smbfs comes back to the same issues with users being allowed to mount.  But in the end, I think this will be the best option - I recall hearing about a way to do this in the past - but this is a project for another day.
[12:26] <ndlovu> I'm trying to download openoffice2 at the moment and it's taking forever... if I have it on another system, can I just copy the debs, or is that a bad idea?
[12:26] <sovieticool> sound problem :((((((((((
[12:26] <Snake__> Krhis: no I Just said i'm beginning to dislike gnome again. I'm trying despreatly to like it since the KDE version of ubuntu just isnt up to par in dapper (dapper may be why this wont work...)
[12:26] <gnomefreak> Pupeno: thats not for us to decide its up to the devels and i feel other things should be added by default like build-essential  but not everyone codes not eveyone uses a mail client
[12:27] <saik0> ziesemer, http://pam-mount.sourceforge.net/
[12:27] <Krhis> Oh, didn't know you where running dapper.
[12:27] <DBO> ziesemer, well, for the time being, you are half way there, 50% better than you started
[12:27] <sovieticool> i can't set alsa to play 5.1
[12:27] <Krhis> I havn't messed with it yet (running Fluxbox anways).
[12:27] <bliss1_> gnmoefreak: just saying hi
[12:27] <Smerity> Has anyone experienced (and hopefully fixed) jittery playing with mozilla-mplayer plugin in Firefox?
[12:27] <pip_> Pupeno:what is channel?
[12:27] <Snake__> Krhis: its pretty nice aside from small anoything things like this
[12:28] <Krhis> True, but at least there's more time to patch that stuff.
[12:28] <NanoBCN> Anyone here worked with PAM auth for vsftpd?
[12:28] <Snake__> It needed it
[12:28] <Pupeno> pip_: you are in a channel, or room. This that sourrounds what we are writting, just ask your question, someone will answer.
[12:28] <Krhis> mmhmm
[12:28] <DBO> Pupeno, Im going to steal that
[12:29] <DBO> that was wonderful
[12:29] <ziesemer> Regarding the hostname vs. IP issue - DBO, you think this is an issue with nautilus?  Where does this fall?  Is this Ubuntu specific, or elsewhere?  Cause I don't see anything in the Ubuntu bug database that matches this issue.
[12:29] <Snake__> Krhis: to be truthful, tho I dont have a nightly snapshot, as of Flight 6, it still needs way more work IMHO, main focus should be on expresso and the update system
[12:29] <DBO> nautilus would be GNOME
[12:29] <ziesemer> k
[12:30] <pip_> Pupeno:thank you all the same.
[12:30] <ndlovu> if I copy /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org2* across to /var/cache/apt/archives of the other computer and then apt-get dist-upgrade, would it find the packages?
[12:30] <pip_> Anyone who can help me ?
[12:30] <Snake__> Expresso will be the future of the install, and its pretty bugged (and a installer is the last thing you want buggy...anything tweaking partitions and buggy = baddd)
[12:30] <shredder_> Has anyone installed the real player10 on ubuntu?
[12:30] <DBO> pip_, please post your problem
[12:31] <pip_> How can I recover deleted files in ubuntu?
[12:31] <Pupeno> pip_: just ask the question. that.
[12:31] <Snake__> With a lot of work and dedication, or with a data recovery center
[12:31] <DBO> pip_, have you removed them from the recycling bin as well?
[12:31] <Krhis> Wow, now I'm glad they held it back.
[12:32] <Snake__> Krhis: dont get me wrong, its a really nice OS in theory, but as I said, small things ruin the giant
[12:32] <pip_> I did with a terminal ,I used ' sudo rm -R  'command
[12:32] <Krhis> Yes, true.
[12:32] <pip_> DBO:I used sudo rm -R command in a terminal
[12:33] <Snake__> pip_: see above (re: With a lot of work and dedication, or with a data recovery center
[12:33] <shredder_> http://www.sysinternals.com/ may have a usable data recovery package thats free.
[12:33] <DBO> pip_, yep, its gone, not much for you to do
[12:33] <DBO> shredder_, for ext3?
[12:33] <pip_> DBO:It will  never be back ?
[12:33] <shredder_> ext3?
[12:33] <Snake__> Is there anything like superkaramba for gnome?
[12:33] <Snake__> (or does SK work?)
[12:34] <sovieticool> is existing a program like deepfreeze for ubuntu ..anything i install after reboot to disepear
[12:34] <DBO> pip_, not unless you take it to a data recovery professional (very expensive)
[12:34] <DBO> shredder_, you know... the linux file system
[12:34] <pip_> Snake__:Can you help me ?I deleted files by mistake.can I recover them back?
[12:34] <Snake__> pip_: see DBO 's response.. its pretty difficult
[12:34] <Krhis> Snake__, gDisklets
[12:35] <Snake__> Krhis: where would I get themes/widget/foo for that?
[12:35] <Krhis> gDesklets.... sorry.
[12:35] <pip_> DBO:Oh,God
[12:35] <shredder_> Ok. I am not sure. I click on the link and check it out.
[12:35] <pip_> DBO:Thank you !
[12:35] <DBO> pip_?
[12:35] <Snake__> lol
[12:35] <Krhis> Almost everywhere. Even apt for them.
[12:35] <Snake__> ooo
[12:35] <Snake__> nice
[12:35] <Krhis> http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[12:35] <DBO> it will cost you a lot of money to get information recovered...
[12:35] <pip_> root is not always good for me
[12:36] <DBO> pip_, what is your native language?
[12:36] <Smerity> Can anyone play this with mozilla-mplayer and not have it jittery ? http://fredrik.hubbe.net/plugger/test.mov
[12:36] <pip_> DBO:I don't know what the software is
[12:36] <me2win> Krhis: try http://gnome-look.org
[12:36] <Krhis> I found it to be a little CPU hog.... but that was a long time ago.
[12:36] <pip_> Chinese
[12:36] <pip_> DBO:Chinese
[12:36] <DBO> do we have a chinese channel?
[12:36] <Krhis> me2win, I'm a fluxbox user.
[12:36] <Snake__> Krhis: Heres one "feature" about gnome I find paticularly annoying, but I guess n00bs will like it: theres a new add/remove programs menu, its like a dumbed down synaptic
[12:36] <DBO> !cc
[12:36] <ubotu> DBO: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:37] <me2win> Krhis: you can still use the widgets
[12:37] <Snake__> only the basic of basic programs
[12:37] <DBO> nope...
[12:37] <me2win> if you are using gdesklets
[12:37] <Krhis> Snake__, ah, saw that when I first found Ubuntu.
[12:37] <Snake__> me2win: widgets work with it??
[12:37] <Krhis> me2win, I have no need to use gDesklets. But thanks anyways.
[12:37] <DBO> pip_, I am going to say this again, about the only way for you to recover your data is to take your hard drive to a profession recovery service.  Very expensive...
[12:37] <me2win> oh i thought thats what you were asking about
[12:38] <Snake__> me2win: im using it
[12:38] <Krhis> Oh no I was telling Snake__ .
[12:38] <Snake__> (or trying to)
[12:38] <me2win> oh
[12:38] <tonyyarusso> !zn
[12:38] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tonyyarusso
[12:38] <tonyyarusso> !zh
[12:38] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tonyyarusso
[12:38] <Snake__> ...
[12:38] <me2win> baha
[12:38] <ziesemer> saik0 - pam-mount looks promising..  How's that work?  Must run a service in the background or something to take care of the mounting/unmounting...  Is anyone already running this?  Doesn't look the most popular...
[12:38] <tonyyarusso> I thought it was something like that...
[12:38] <pip_> DBO:I understand you.But is there any software can help?
[12:38] <saik0> !tell tonyyarusso about fishing
[12:38] <Snake__> me2win: sooo widgets work with this thing?
[12:38] <DBO> pip_, let me look
[12:39] <holycow> http://data.linux-ntfs.org/stats/  <-- well the project seems to be active
[12:39] <saik0> ziesemer, pam is pam....I've never used pam-mount though. just found it in google
[12:39] <holycow> i wish them luck
[12:39] <holycow> woops
[12:39] <me2win> Snake__: gdesklets? they have their own special widgets I think, ive never used it
[12:39] <tonyyarusso> saik0: I thought I remembered something for chinese for DBO/pip_; guess I was wrong.
[12:39] <me2win> holycow: ntfsprogs works great
[12:39] <enkrav> Hello, what's a gnome tool to visualize disk usage of directory hierarchies?
[12:39] <Snake__> me2win: oh okay, I would assume so, thats why I was kinda cought off guard
[12:39] <saik0> tonyyarusso, oh np. it's a reflex at this pooint sorry
[12:40] <me2win> Snake__: ah
[12:40] <ziesemer> Thanks to all.  Need some shut-eye, l8r.
[12:40] <janine88> bonjour
[12:40] <pip_> DBO:When I use windows XP, I use FinalData ---some kind of recovery software.But I don't know ,in Linux, is there any like that?
[12:40] <FoReSTaReaN> has anybody tried to run Mysql Workbench in Ubuntu?
[12:40] <tonyyarusso> saik0: Not a bad reflex either.  What is that darn abbreviation anyway?  Something non-intuitive for us English-speakers.
[12:40] <janine88> bonjour
[12:40] <saik0> tonyyarusso, i couldnt tell you
[12:41] <FoReSTaReaN> I've got error like misssing GLIBCxx 3.4.6 is not installed
[12:41] <FoReSTaReaN> for binary package 1.05beta
[12:42] <DBO> pip_, no, it is pretty much gone... the rm command pretty well kills any recovery choices...
[12:42] <pip_> DBO:Thank you for your tips!
[12:42] <saik0> !zh
[12:42] <ubotu> saik0: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:42] <shredder_> PC Tools worked like a champ with xp data recovery. I am not sure if it works with linux. Contact Mark Russinovitch at http://www.sysinternals.com/ he may have a option for your problem pip.
[12:43] <DBO> buy low sell high
[12:43] <pip_> DBO:
[12:43] <saik0> oh...well pip_ and tonyyarusso, it's #ubuntu-zh
[12:43] <pip_> saik0what?
[12:43] <saik0> tonyyarusso, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/InternetRelayChat
[12:43] <DBO> shredder_, it wont work
[12:43] <saik0> pip_, #ubuntu-zh is the chinese channel
[12:43] <pip_> I know!
[12:44] <DBO> shredder_, NTFS is majorly different from EXT3, one recovery tool will not work on the other
[12:44] <shredder_> oh ok. Now we know
[12:44] <janine88> comment traduire en franais
[12:44] <pip_> saik0:But now there are few people there!
[12:44] <DBO> pip_, what did you delete anyhow?
[12:46] <ibooij> hi all, I have a question regarding Evolution
[12:46] <DBO> ok, what is it?
[12:46] <ibooij> How can you delete calendars?
[12:46] <ibooij> I get a dialog asking 'Do you really want to delete?'
[12:46] <DBO> ibooij, right click on the calendar on the left bar, and select delete
[12:47] <ibooij> DBO: I do that, but then nothing happens
[12:47] <ibooij> DBO: the calendar is still there
[12:47] <ibooij> BTW: Evolution 2.6.0 on Dapper
[12:47] <DBO> sounds like a bug
[12:47] <DBO> !dapper
[12:47] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[12:48] <pip_> DBO:In fact the files I deleted are now very important to me ,but I have spent a lot of time collected them from the Internet
[12:49] <pip_> DBO:In fact the files I deleted are not very important to me ,but I have spent a lot of time collected them from the Internet
[12:49] <ibooij> I had the same problem on Breezy by the way
[12:49] <DBO> pip_, ah... well... best of luck
[12:49] <pip_> DBO:Not very important but filled with time I wasted
[12:50] <DBO> pip_, not much left to do but waste more time re-collecting it
[12:50] <pip_> DBO:Yeah
[12:51] <pip_> DBO:Where are you from?
[12:51] <DBO> pip_, America
[12:51] <pip_> DBO:Nice to meet you.I like USA
[12:52] <undeadsoldier> sup
[12:53] <MickoD> morning
[12:53] <saik0> MickoD, morning
[12:53] <MickoD> how does one make a network boot disk for dapper ?
[12:53] <DBO> !dapper
[12:53] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[12:53] <shredder_> Thanks guys. From Vegas, C-ya
[12:53] <pip_> DBO:I am a college student with the major ----Software Engineering .Carnegie Mellon is very good at SE ,right?
[12:53] <ndlovu> I'm using freemind on one ubuntu machine, but installing it on another machine gives dependency issues. any ideas how to troubleshoot this?
[12:53] <DBO> pip_, yes... but this is not the place for that kind of discussion...
[12:54] <saik0> ndlovu, which package does it say it's missing? (install that package)
[12:54] <gerhard> good morning everyone
[12:54] <pip_> DBO:OK.Sorry
[12:54] <DBO> pip_, its ok, rules are rules =P
[12:55] <DBO> gerhard, morning
[12:55] <ndlovu> saik0: package libforms-java has no installable candidate
[12:55] <LazyAngel> how can i preserve file permission. Eg. if you put a file in a directory, all files inside that directory should have same owner and/or same permisson (777)
[12:55] <DBO> ndlovu, what arch?
[12:55] <gerhard> i need to open an .rar archive but my ubuntu archive manager wont
[12:55] <pip_> DBO:How long have used Ubuntu?
[12:55] <DBO> !tell gerhard abour rar
[12:55] <gerhard> what to do now?
[12:55] <ndlovu> saik0: (not available, but referred to by another package). i386
[12:55] <DBO> !rar
[12:56] <ubotu> somebody said rar was a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[12:56] <gerhard> doesnt tell me anything DBO
[12:56] <DBO> there you go =)
[12:56] <gerhard> ^^
[12:56] <gerhard> thanks
[12:56] <ndlovu> DBO, siak0: i386 (if that's what you mean)
[12:56] <DBO> !tell ndlovu about repos
[12:57] <ndlovu> DBO: universe, multiverse are enabled
[12:57] <DBO> interesting
[12:58] <ndlovu> DBO: freemind is not a supported package (don't know why, 'cos it's great software).
[12:58] <DBO> and libforms-java is not in the repos
[12:59] <ndlovu> DBO: but it's working on my other ubuntu machine. can I figure out from there how to make it work?
[01:00] <DBO> ndlovu, which is frankly quite interesting
[01:00] <DBO> ndlovu, you need to install java
[01:00] <saik0> ndlovu, did you use easyubuntu or automatix on it, or add any unofficial repos?
[01:01] <DBO> !tell ndlovu about java
[01:01] <Snake__> YAY! Krhis they are getting stuff done! here was one of my complaints with expresso: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/espresso/+bug/35614 and https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/espresso/+bug/36742 (Grub Install Fails) now its fixed woo hoo!!
[01:01] <gerhard> im topo stupid:
[01:01] <gerhard> gerhard@Gerhard:~$ cd Desktop
[01:01] <gerhard> gerhard@Gerhard:~/Desktop$ unrar -e English_G_2000_A_6_Workbook_mit_Loesungen.rar
[01:01] <gerhard> bash: unrar: command not found
[01:01] <gerhard> gerhard@Gerhard:~/Desktop$
[01:01] <Snake__> :)
[01:01] <DBO> !paste
[01:01] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[01:01] <gerhard> yes i know
[01:01] <gerhard> too lazy
[01:01] <saik0> gerhard, then maybe you'll find people are too lazy to help you
[01:01] <DBO> not a good answer... but Im no op...
[01:01] <gerhard> :(
[01:02] <gerhard> mom
[01:02] <Snake__> saik0: great answer bro
[01:02] <Snake__> im out
[01:02] <Snake__> pz
[01:02] <ndlovu> DBO, saik0: I've just checked the download folder from my previous install, and there's debs for libforms-java and libbatik-java. must have installed them with dpkg -i. will do the same again.
[01:02] <gerhard> http://nopaste.php-q.net/204161
[01:03] <pao> Hi I am on Mac, how can I simulate a  click mouse ?
[01:03] <saik0> gerhard, the manual is a good place to start. man rar
[01:03] <gerhard> thx
[01:03] <DBO> ok
[01:03] <gerhard> it says theres no manual entry for rar
[01:03] <saik0> man unrar?
[01:03] <gerhard> mom
[01:03] <DBO> gerhard, "sudo ln -s /usr/bin/unrar /usr/bin/rar
[01:03] <DBO> "
[01:03] <gerhard> the same
[01:03] <saik0> sometimes i miss the RTFM attitue of #debian
[01:04] <pao> I have tried to control click but it does not offer me the contextual menu that I should have with the right click
[01:04] <pao> anyone ?
[01:04] <DBO> saik0, im up for it if you are
[01:04] <ndlovu> does anyone know why freemind isn't supported? because it's java-based?
[01:04] <pao> saik0: yeah but not all the times
[01:04] <gerhard> ??
[01:04] <vge> &j #ubuntu-fi
[01:04] <DBO> ndlovu, Im sure there is a reason, but ours is not to ask why...
[01:04] <saik0> pao, thats for sure.  I knew Id get to make that joke sometime
[01:06] <pao> DBO: right,
[01:06] <DBO> pao, you COULD change the mouse to left handed, then everything is right click...
[01:06] <holycow> saik0: i'm offended
[01:06] <gerhard> now the utility unrar is not in my PATH
[01:06] <holycow> i'm neither friendly nor usefull
[01:06] <holycow> *cough*
[01:07] <DBO> and you definately have that RTFM attitude
[01:07] <gerhard> how do i get it there? when i tried once, i had no rights to do so
[01:07] <holycow> lol i know, i used to hate that about #debian dudes
[01:07] <holycow> now i think i would fit in #bsd
[01:07] <holycow> *sigh*
[01:07] <pao> DBO: ah ah thats chicky
[01:08] <DBO> chicky?
[01:08] <saik0> gerhard, do you have rar and unrar installed?
[01:08] <gerhard> i guess not
[01:09] <gerhard> i loaded about 5 stupid rar distros from their homepage but i cannot install them
[01:09] <gerhard> as my knowledge is too few
[01:09] <saik0> !repos
[01:09] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:09] <DBO> gerhard, "sudo apt-get install rar"
[01:09] <gerhard> oh
[01:09] <mthakur_> hello, what is SEO?
[01:09] <saik0> gerhard and then "sudo apt-get install rar unrar unrar-nonfree"
[01:09] <gerhard> an error
[01:09] <lucaas> i belive its unrar
[01:09] <gerhard> in German
[01:10] <lucaas> gerhard, sudo apt-get install unrar
[01:10] <mthakur_> leaving
[01:10] <gerhard> E: Paket unrar hat keinen Installationskandidaten
[01:10] <holycow> i love the sticky window edges in new gnome
[01:10] <gerhard> i translate: E: packet unrar has no installation candidate
[01:10] <Sanne> gerhard, you need to enable universe and multiverse
[01:10] <holycow> its implemented in a very pleasing and non annoying way
[01:10] <gerhard> how?
[01:10] <lucaas> !repositories
[01:10] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:10] <saik0> gerhard, or you could try #ubuntu-de
[01:10] <Bambino> if I wanna be able to play movies in firefox (when visiting websites), what plugin do i need
[01:11] <gerhard> i see
[01:11] <saik0> holy cow I said that 5 minutes ago
[01:11] <gerhard> thanks
[01:11] <DBO> holycow, so its implemented completely inverse to how you prefer it? =P
[01:11] <holycow> saik0: hehe really? :) delicious isn't it?
[01:11] <holycow> DBO: thats cold bro, cold!
[01:11] <lucaas> Bambino, mplayer-plugin
[01:11] <gerhard> uh im running kde, where is that synaptic thing?
[01:11] <Ilokaaaasu> its  called adept in kde
[01:11] <gerhard> thanks
[01:11] <DBO> holycow, we have jabbed enough at each others ideas, I figured I might as well cut into the person for once =P
[01:11] <holycow> DBO: when i switched from kde to gnome coupla years ago that was the one thing i missed, but i didn't know this could be improved on, its nice
[01:12] <Sanne> gerhard, also check out packages.ubuntu.com, a nice way to see if some software is in the ubuntu repositories.
[01:12] <Bambino> lucaas, how do i get it? apt-get mplayer-plugin ?
[01:12] <lucaas> Bambino, you probably want to get w32codecs too
[01:12] <holycow> DBO: hehe
[01:12] <lucaas> Bambino, yes
[01:12] <saik0> !restrictedformats
[01:12] <ubotu> from memory, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:12] <Bambino> lucaas thanks
[01:12] <lucaas> Bambino, look at that link ^
[01:13] <Bambino> lucaas, thank you
[01:13] <Bambino> saik0, U too :)
[01:13] <DBO> uh oh... its bright agian... that means I stayed up all night helping (kind of) people here and forgot to sleep
[01:13] <KR3470R0> hiyas
[01:13] <saik0> Bambino, we try
[01:13] <DBO> night all
[01:13] <lucaas> Bambino, no problem :)
[01:13] <Bambino> saik0, and you succeed :) thanks again
[01:14] <ndlovu> night DBO, thanks for the help!
[01:14] <KR3470R0> i just installed a new Nvidia geForce card - but when i installed the drivers under mandriva (now running ubuntu) and it had a crash where I couldn't start X
[01:14] <zugu> question: does krusader work on ubuntu? or is it made for kde deskops only?
[01:14] <KR3470R0> i want to install the drivers again, but do it so that the same doesn't happen
[01:14] <GotUbuntued> Please help. I've install the latest jre1.5.0_06 and firefox <IP_ADDRESS> and linked the plugins. Why does'nt firefox show java ? Just says "install plugin"
[01:15] <KR3470R0> so...how do I do that? :P
[01:15] <Sanne> zugu, I just installed krusader. the necessary kde libs will be installed, though.
[01:15] <zugu> Sanne > thank you
[01:15] <holycow> GotUbuntued: because either you didn't install it right or didn't link it right.  did you check either of these variables?
[01:15] <Sanne> zugu, you're welcome.
[01:16] <gerhard> :D
[01:16] <GotUbuntued> holycow, : I've check the firefox plugin directory. The java files are there. Any idea?
[01:16] <holycow> GotUbuntued: well symlinks might be there, do they actually point to the right dir?  are theere any files in the dir they are pointing to? are they pointing to correctly named files?
[01:16] <KR3470R0> anyone with any ideas on the nvidia issue?
[01:17] <roico> how can i use skype and hear music at the same time?
[01:17] <saik0> !tell Bambino about nvidia
[01:17] <saik0> oops
[01:17] <GotUbuntued> holycow, : And how do I check it? I'm sure that they link to the right dir
[01:17] <saik0> tell KR3470R0 about nvidia
[01:17] <KR3470R0> lol
[01:17] <KR3470R0> i'm not a baby!
[01:17] <saik0> son of a!
[01:17] <holycow> GotUbuntued: symlinks are the right way to do it, but you can copy/paste the files directly to the firefox plugins dir
[01:17] <saik0> !tell KR3470R0 about nvidia
[01:17] <babo> roico: ipod + computer ...
[01:17] <babo> :-)
[01:18] <roico> lol...
[01:18] <gerhard> hah, i am great, it installs unrar now :D
[01:18] <KR3470R0> thanks :D
[01:18] <roico> is there any way to do it?
[01:18] <Sanne> gerhard, congrats :)
[01:18] <GotUbuntued> holycow, : how do I do it because I can't do it in the file browser because of the permissions
[01:18] <roico> except of using ipod? :)
[01:18] <gerhard> can i install skype the same way?
[01:18] <saik0> roico, by using alsa'a native hardware or software mixing instead of ESD
[01:18] <holycow> GotUbuntued: i'm a wee bit tired to run you through the details of that ...  backtrack your steps as per wiki, you will need to know a bit of command line stuff to do so
[01:18] <babo> roico: do you have the skype hijacker installed ?
[01:19] <holycow> anyone wanna help GotUbuntued get his java plugs for moz running? im too tired to go through this right now, its not hard jsut tedious
[01:19] <ndlovu> any idea how much resources the lamp platform uses (I'm wanting to set up a personal wiki on my own computer)?
[01:19] <roico> babo: yes, but no mixing... :(        saik0: how do i do that?
[01:19] <saik0> !dmix
[01:19] <ubotu> well, dmix is first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[01:19] <holycow> !ja va
[01:19] <ubotu> holycow: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:19] <holycow> !java
[01:20] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:20] <GotUbuntued> holycow, : I did the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion thing with no errors
[01:21] <Bambino> saik0, Hmm, why did I get nvidia from you ?:)
[01:21] <Sanne> ndlovu, it runs quite nicely on my Athlon 1000 Mhz. Is there anything specific you need to know?
[01:21] <roico> saik0: its already using alsa... i also tried to run skype with aoss, but it didnt help... =\
[01:21] <holycow> GotUbuntued: *ummm* that looks much too much work
[01:21] <holycow> !java
[01:21] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:21] <saik0> Bambino, dont ask, it's complicated
[01:21] <holycow> GotUbuntued: do the sun java install from that link
[01:21] <Bambino> saik0, heh ok :)
[01:21] <holycow> GotUbuntued: its the easiest way to do it and you get the latest jre
[01:22] <ndlovu> Sanne: thanks. I guess I'm just concerned about it hogging i/o resources with random disk reads and stuff while I'm working
[01:22] <GotUbuntued> holycow, : I've got the latest jre installed
[01:22] <saik0> roico, hmm. I've never used skype, I'm just going on the assumption that it swallows your alsa device
[01:22] <holycow> GotUbuntued: how do you know?
[01:23] <GotUbuntued> holycow, : java -version
[01:23] <roico> saik0: swallows my alsa device? what do u mean?
[01:23] <Sanne> ndlovu, well, I would maybe disable it for things like realtime audio work, but other than that, it shoukld be ok. I use it for local web development.
[01:23] <ndlovu> Sanne: thanks, I'll give it a go :-)
[01:23] <Sanne> ndlovu, you're welcome, good luck :)
[01:24] <saik0> roico, some applications that dont support ESD use your alsa device, which means nothing else can use it unless your mixing sounds.
[01:24] <holycow> GotUbuntued: i will haveto leave this for another day, i'm sorry, i'm tired and acting like an ass ... that is not helpfull :)
[01:24] <holycow> sorry hehe
[01:24] <saik0> roico, what I dont know is whether or not skype is one of them =\
[01:24] <pao> I am working in a school and I have about 10 computer on which I would like to install ubuntu, what can I do to optimised the process ? for ex, I would like to set one computer up and install the same config on all the other computer
[01:25] <GotUbuntued> holycow, : Hehe go to bed :D Tnx anyway
[01:25] <saik0> pao, if they are all exactly the same you could make a disk image
[01:25] <roico> saik0: skype uses oss, if it matters...
[01:25] <Bambino> Hmm i have the W32codes, and the latest mplayer plugin, still it's not working to play movies on the internet. Any ideas?
[01:25] <ndlovu> pao, you should look into edubuntu
[01:25] <saik0> roico, sorry I need yo be going to class =\
[01:26] <pao> 'edunbuntu
[01:26] <ndlovu> pao, it's a version of ubuntu specifically designed for the schools environment
[01:26] <ndlovu> !edubuntu
[01:26] <ubotu> Edubuntu is the education version of ubuntu (essentially ubuntu + educational apps + ltsp).  Website - http://www.edubuntu.org. Tour - http://edubuntu.org/tour.html
[01:27] <pao> ndlovu: thanks
[01:28] <Bambino> No ideas? i got mplayer plugin and firefox, but still i am not able to view movies on the net
[01:30] <ndlovu> pao: you're welcome. you can consider also contacting the schools linux user group in south africa if you have specific questions (http://www.slug.org.za/), though I'm sure there are similar groups around the world
[01:32] <mangusta> is there a vpn client in ubuntu?
[01:33] <mangusta> anyone?
[01:33] <Jhair> mangusta: to connect to which vpn server?
[01:34] <mangusta> uh
[01:34] <mangusta> good question, it's a pptp connection....
[01:34] <Jhair> mangusta: pptp
[01:34] <gerhard> some routers support vpn
[01:34] <Jhair> mangusta: pptp works fine with windows based vpn servers
[01:34] <pao> is there a default file browser on ubuntu ?
[01:35] <Jhair> pao: nautilus
[01:35] <magenet> anyone know how to install nvidia drivers into ubuntu so cedega can work?
[01:36] <pao> Jhair: where is it ? how do I launch it ?
[01:36] <Sanne> !tell magenet about nvidia
[01:37] <magenet> thx
[01:37] <Jhair> pao: from the places menu you can start it (if you are using gnome)
[01:37] <Sanne> magenet, you're welcome
[01:38] <pao> Jhair: I am using gnome but I have not got "nautilus"
[01:38] <zugu> question: how to power of computer at a certain time / in enter:amount:here ?
[01:38] <zugu> *off
[01:39] <Jhair> pao: install it then, but it's strange you don't have it installed since it is installed per default
[01:39] <tonyyarusso> zugu: sudo shutdown -h 14:30 or sudo shutdown -h +45 (in minutes).  man shutdown for more info.
[01:39] <pao> Jhair: I think I have it, but it has not got the fancy toolbar and predefined place such as Desktop etc...
[01:39] <zugu> tonyyarusso > thank you
[01:40] <mthakur> what is bit torrent?
[01:40] <tonyyarusso> !bittorrent
[01:40] <ubotu> from memory, bittorrent is the BitTorrent FAQ is available at: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[01:40] <motin> a way of collabaratively downloading files to save server's bandwidth
[01:40] <mthakur> thanks friend
[01:41] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: You know (almost) all.  Wanna help write my essay on how programmable machines compare to the human mind?  ;)
[01:41] <ubotu> tonyyarusso: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[01:41] <tonyyarusso> Hence my thesis that they don't match exactly.
[01:41] <Smerity> sorry, does anyone know what I need to install to get 'convert' (for image files)?
[01:42] <pip_> Hello?
[01:42] <motin> Hello?
[01:42] <motin> !hello
[01:42] <ubotu> Hi, motin!
[01:42] <pip_> hehe
[01:42] <tonyyarusso> Smerity: I think it might be part of imagemagick, but I'm not entirely sure.
[01:42] <pip_> I'm Pip
[01:42] <motin> !pip
[01:42] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, motin
[01:42] <pip_> Yeah,I am fro China
[01:42] <Smerity> tonyyarusso, sounds about right, they mentioned imagemagick in the thread, thanks =)
[01:43] <Zenero> Where does stuff from the synaptic package manager usually install?
[01:43] <Smerity> tonyyarusso, quite correct, was imagemagick, thanx =)
[01:44] <Sanne> Zenero, you can look in Synaptic in the package properties where the files went.
[01:44] <tonyyarusso> Zenero: A couple of places.  Mainly /usr (/usr/lib and /usr/bin being the biggies), plus some config files in /etc and your ~/.
[01:44] <tonyyarusso> Smerity: Great - enjoy!
[01:44] <Zenero> Ok, thanks alot.
[01:45] <pip_> Should I type someone's name who I want to talk with before I talk to him?
[01:45] <pao> Jhair: look at this screenshot, that is far from looking like Nautilus http://www.edubuntu.org/images/tour/gnome-nautilus.png
[01:45] <DBO> pip_, if you need to talk to someone in specific, yes
[01:45] <tonyyarusso> pip_: Yes, that way on most clients it will a) highlight the line, and b) beep their speaker or otherwise alert to a new message.
[01:46] <pip_> DBO:I don't think it is simple
[01:46] <sufa> anyone know a good video converter?
[01:46] <pao> Jhair: ?
[01:46] <Jhair> pao: well if you can view stuff and icons and zoom-in, zoom-out I think that's nautilus.
[01:46] <gerhard>  Tmpgenc
[01:46] <sufa> i need avi to wmv
[01:46] <Sanne> pip_, also, most clients let you tab complete the nick after typing a few characters
[01:46] <Jhair> pao: why do you think that screenshot isn't nautilus?
[01:47] <pip_> DBO:I am using xchat.
[01:47] <DBO> pip_, when you say my name, the alert works
[01:47] <DBO> no worries
[01:47] <pao> Jhair: that IS, mine has not got the same tool bar, no back reload or shortcuts, no left colum etc...
[01:47] <pip_> DBO:yeah I works.
[01:48] <pip_> DBO, I used 'Tab' to complete your name: )
[01:48] <DBO> well done
[01:48] <pao> Jhair: although, when I lauch nautilus from the comman line, it opens the same window that I got from Place, so mine IS also nautilus; it just does not look as good, why ?
[01:49] <Bambino> So no one has any idea at all? I cant view moviesin firefox, tho i have mplayer plugins installed and w32codecs.. Please anyone?
[01:49] <pao> Jhair: is there stuff to add to Nautilus to make it have a left columns and a tool bar with back buttons and everything ?
[01:49] <Jhair> pao: oh I was just about to ask you if you've tried from the command line.
[01:49] <pip_> DBO, another question,I want ti change the color of words to others.How can I do?
[01:49] <pao> Jhair: yep same, strange no ?
[01:49] <Jhair> pao: there are other nautilus packages, e.g. nautilus-data
[01:50] <Jhair> pao: could you check this list? http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=nautilus&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[01:50] <DBO> pip_, we prefer straight black text only pip_ colors are anoying
[01:51] <whmice> hello
[01:51] <DBO> hi
[01:51] <pip_> DBO, anying?what's meaning?
[01:51] <venin> cheers
[01:51] <DBO> pip_, bad
[01:52] <venin> any of u come across sound card issue where u need to blacklist snd_hda_intel in order to get past the hotplug starting at boot?
[01:52] <venin> or disable sound in bios..
[01:52] <pip_> DBO, I can't find the word 'anoy'in my electronic dictionary.
[01:52] <pip_> DBO, why?
[01:52] <_Elie_> DBO, is there a risk corrupting my windows partition if i mount them on ubuntu?
[01:53] <venin> is there a fix for it? im using breezy
[01:53] <Varoudis> hello anyone with broadcom G wifi? my laptop crash when try to do ifup with a G access point
[01:53] <DBO> _Elie_, only if you mount the with write access
[01:53] <pip_> DBO, there are more than 420000 words in my dictionary ,but there is not yours.
[01:53] <DBO> _Elie_, write them read only and you will be fine
[01:53] <DarthShrine> pip_, "annoy"
[01:53] <DBO> pip_, that is because I am bad at spelling
[01:54] <_Elie_> dbo, so its not recommended to copy files from ubuntu and paste them on my windows partitions?
[01:54] <DBO> correct
[01:54] <venin> DBO, if u use following command mount -t ntfs -o ro,defaults,umask=0222
[01:54] <venin> will the mnt have write access?
[01:54] <DBO> venin, no
[01:54] <SteveZero> hello all
[01:54] <DBO> the ro stands for read only
[01:54] <sskroeder> Hi all --- how is support for KDE in ubuntu -- I'm using KDE 3.5.2 on gentoo right now - but i'm considering to try out Ubuntu ...
[01:55] <babo> Any body heard of these webhosts ?   Dedicated-Servers.iWeb.Ca ... ?
[01:55] <venin> ah
[01:55] <venin> good :p
[01:55] <venin> then im safe and sound, hehe
[01:55] <DBO> sskroeder, kubuntu works very well
[01:55] <whmice> im new to linux and i installed ubuntu 5.10, the problem is that i have a 2wire hpna usb network... and they dont have linux drivers... anyway serching around i found ndiswrapper which i hope will help, he thing is it requires the source code which is difficult to get if you cant connect to the net from ubuntu
[01:55] <sskroeder> DBO ... but with what version of KDE ? --
[01:55] <Sanne> _Elie_, with fat32 partitions I never had problems with writing. ntfs should be used read-only.
[01:55] <DBO> erm, beats me, I run GNOME, ask in #kubuntu
[01:56] <whmice> *the ubuntu source code
[01:56] <sskroeder> DBO ok *S*
[01:56] <DBO> oh yeah, forgot to mention fat32 is ok
[01:56] <DBO> sorry sskroeder...
[01:56] <sskroeder> DBO:  np
[01:56] <_Elie_> sanne,dbo : thanks :D
[01:56] <Varoudis> does anyone has problem with ndiswrapper and G access points?
[01:56] <venin> my ubuntu only lacks sound to be complete.. kinda sucks
[01:56] <DBO> venin, what is wrong with it?
[01:57] <Sanne> sskroeder, on packages.ubuntu.com you can search for the package and get info on the versions.
[01:57] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, I think my imac G4 is using it's power options to throttle the CPU from 1ghz down to 533mhz, is there any known way to adjust this from ubuntu?
[01:57] <DBO> sskroeder, looks like they are using 5.44
[01:58] <DBO> erm'
[01:58] <DBO> ignore me
[01:59] <whmice> please help
[02:00] <DBO> sskroeder, its version 3.4
[02:01] <menza_> I seem to have broken my X config, somehow. It says X won't start
[02:01] <DBO> menza_, can you be more specific?
[02:01] <Sanne> whmice, well, other than finding a computer with internet access and get the files from there I really don't know of other options.
[02:01] <DBO> what happens when you PC turns on?
[02:01] <painkiler> hey ugys
[02:01] <menza_> DBO: I just restarted X - I attempted to install Compiz earlier; could it be that?
[02:01] <painkiler> need a little help sh scripting
[02:01] <sskroeder> ok ;-( ... (3.4 is a bit bloatet;-/)
[02:02] <painkiler> how do i check if an appliction is open?
[02:02] <DBO> menza_, yes, it could be that
[02:02] <DBO> sounds like you broke X
[02:02] <menza_> DBO: Indeed it does.
[02:02] <painkiler> i want to close it if it is open
[02:02] <whmice> i cant find a downloadable tarball of the source and i dont know any other way
[02:02] <menza_> What's the easiest way to recover it, DBO?
[02:02] <DBO> did you attempt the install yourself, or did you follow a howto?
[02:02] <menza_> DBO: I only downloaded and ran the package; then left. I know it's stupid, but I never thought it'd ruin X
[02:03] <patrick52222> how do i get limewire on ubuntu
[02:03] <DBO> !frostwire
[02:03] <DBO> !tell patrick52222 about frostwire
[02:03] <DBO> MenZa, ok, what package?
[02:03] <DBO> did you use apt-get or synaptics?
[02:04] <MenZa> DBO: I think I got the package directly from their website, actually. Their Dapper repository
[02:04] <MenZa> sudo apt-get remove compiz
[02:04] <MenZa> Hmm.
[02:04] <MenZa> Forgot I was in irssi.
[02:04] <Sanne> whmice, do you need the kernel source?
[02:04] <DBO> MenZa, thats the idea
[02:04] <MenZa> :)
[02:05] <MenZa> ..is it possible to have 'several' terminals running, without a gui :P?
[02:05] <whmice> yes
[02:05] <MenZa> So I can run my commands and still be here
[02:05] <DBO> when did ubotu stop responding to !<command> and pasting to channel?
[02:05] <doms>  cannot open /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build/include/linux/version.h (No su ch file or directory)
[02:05] <Sanne> whmice, please type my name when replying so I get alerted when you talk to me. You can do this:
[02:05] <DBO> MenZa, CTRL+ALT+F<number>
[02:06] <DBO> any of the F buttons, open new "terminals"
[02:06] <Krollian> hey, what are you supposed to do with shell script files?
[02:06] <whmice> Sanne like so?
[02:06] <DBO> Krollian, what is it for?
[02:06] <Sanne> whmice, note down your kernel version with 'uname -a'
[02:06] <Krollian> cedega
[02:06] <Sanne> whmice, yesm that's fine, thanks :)
[02:06] <DBO> Krollian, you run them
[02:06] <rixth> I need very urgent help. When I start my system, it says "Wating for root file system" then, after a couple min, drops me to a busy box shell. "?ALERT! /dev/sda2 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"
[02:06] <MenZa> DBO: well, it says it's not install for some reason
[02:06] <WebLOCH> anyone got a foolproof guide to using powernowd ?
[02:06] <MenZa> installed, even.
[02:06] <whmice> Sanne 2.6.12
[02:06] <DBO> MenZa, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:06] <DBO> sudo that
[02:07] <mangusta> rixth, That looks like a scsi HDD isn't being found
[02:07] <Sanne> whmice, go to a friend with internet access, go to packages.ubuntu.com, search for the kernel package.
[02:07] <rixth> mangusta, but I only have one hdd, so where is grub/busybox coming from?
[02:07] <Krollian> DBO, it's for cedega
[02:07] <rixth> (I have 1 SATA drive)
[02:07] <Sanne> whmice, you might only need kernel-headers-<your-version>, not the whole package, though. It's a smaller download.
[02:07] <whmice> Sanne im currently running windows from a dual boot
[02:07] <DBO> Krollian, any more specifics, cedega is a big project
[02:07] <mangusta> uhmmm, not sure, however, SATA show up as sda too
[02:08] <SteveZero> how do i view SMB shared folders from other comps on a network (small LAN) ?
[02:08] <Krollian> DBO, I dunno.  I had a choice of two install pagages and this
[02:08] <Sanne> whmice, the go to packages.ubuntu.com to learn how to do it for later. Type in "kernel-headers" in the package search box.
[02:08] <Krollian> didn't want to pay
[02:08] <DBO> SteveZero, Places -> Connect to Server...
[02:09] <rixth> SteveZero, type smb:// into Nautilus
[02:09] <sophtpaw> Hi Folks, How do i loose Evolution without getting rid of the desktop?
[02:09] <DBO> Krollian, you mean compile from CVS
[02:09] <mangusta> could be a driver issue (Can't access the drive after loading up sata driver??
[02:09] <DBO> Krollian, there are walktrhoughs for that on the forum
[02:09] <Krollian> DBO, yes
[02:09] <Krollian> Ok
[02:09] <newmanserver> bambino u there?
[02:09] <rixth> mangusta, this system has worked in the past.
[02:09] <Sanne> whmice, tell me when you're done.
[02:09] <mangusta> yeah, sould be a bad update?
[02:09] <Bambino> newmanserver, aye :)
[02:09] <DBO> sophtpaw, you dont
[02:09] <rixth> mangusta, I had an uptime of about 2 days, I shut down, the went to start back uop and it was like this
[02:09] <mangusta> do you have a failsafe boot?
[02:09] <MenZa> DBO: set it up, still won't work.
[02:09] <newmanserver> send me a private
[02:10] <rixth> mangusta, what do you mean by that?
[02:10] <mangusta> yeah, could just be an update caused a problem
[02:10] <MenZa> DBO: I'm gonna try and run it once more. Brb.
[02:10] <mangusta> what bootloader do you use?
[02:10] <sophtpaw> DBO: you don't? loose the desktop or loose evolution without loosing the desktop
[02:10] <newmanserver> Send me a private message Bambino
[02:10] <rixth> mangusta, whatever one comes with Ubuntu. Grub, I think
[02:10] <DBO> sophtpaw, its part of GNOME
[02:10] <DBO> you cant
[02:10] <sophtpaw> but i don't choose Evolution
[02:10] <mangusta> when machine starts up, does it showa menu with Ubuntu Linux 2.6.10-9?
[02:11] <DBO> sophtpaw, then dont use it...
[02:11] <theonetowaitfora> ive been trying to get network manager to work for a while now, i have never been able to see the app running, where is it? i cant seem to get it to run with the nm-applet command, sounds stupid i know. Ive installed it and the required packages i belive
[02:11] <newmanserver> Bambino?
[02:11] <rixth> mangusta, I'll have to restart it. I'm on my laptop right next to the sick desktop.
[02:11] <mangusta> there should be an entry under the first one with (Failsafe) after it
[02:11] <lozzd_uni> hey, any devs here available to assist to a very strange problem of disappearing hard drive space? I dont believe this is a common error, its very strange. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=906259#post906259   Thanks
[02:11] <sophtpaw> if i have a link or file i want to 'send' Evolution kicks in, when i prefer to use Thunderbird
[02:11] <mangusta> yah, restart and look at the menu, try the failsafe
[02:11] <DBO> lozzd_uni!!!
[02:11] <lozzd_uni> hey DBO :P
[02:11] <motin> "modern versions of Linux will use either "slx", "lnp", or one of the lnp-variants (such as "lrh")." <-- ... and how do I know which one is right for ubuntu/debian?
[02:11] <DBO> small world
[02:11] <lozzd_uni> i know, tell me about it
[02:11] <chamo> plop
[02:11] <Lupos> hi, does anyone have an idea, what this strange error could mean? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11957
[02:11] <lozzd_uni> help me with my problem bitch :)
[02:12] <rixth> mangusta, I have "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-16-386 (recovery mode)"
[02:12] <chamo> !language
[02:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[02:12] <DBO> lozzd_uni, the rules here are fairly strict
[02:12] <whmice> Sanne i think i found it its a .deb
[02:12] <sophtpaw> lozzd_uni: we're all connected by 6degrees or less
[02:12] <mangusta> has anyone seend the nvidia ddriver issue where there is a black bar down the rhs of the screen??
[02:12] <DBO> not like our other room
[02:12] <DBO> lozzd_uni, describe the problem
[02:12] <MenZa> Phew!
[02:12] <MenZa> Thank you SO much DBO :)
[02:12] <lozzd_uni> oops sorry :P
[02:12] <DBO> mmhmmm
[02:13] <rixth> mangusta, do I want the "recovery mode" one?
[02:13] <Sanne> whmice, yeah, you can download a deb from there, copy it to your linux partition, and install it with dpkg -i <packagename>. Voila :)
[02:13] <mangusta> yeah
[02:13] <sophtpaw> DBO: how can i turn evolution off. I wanna be able to send links etc without evolution kicking in
[02:13] <mangusta> you may need to ask someone else if there are any recomm on what to do once you boot it....
[02:13] <mangusta> I'm not too crash hot at it ;)
[02:13] <mangusta> brb
[02:13] <rixth> mangusta, blank screen, nothing yet. No cursor. NumLock is still responsive though
[02:13] <DBO> sophtpaw, you dont turn it off, you can change your default programs though
[02:13] <MenZa> sophtpaw: System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications, if I understood your issue correctly.
[02:14] <whmice> Sanne  thanks i hope it works
[02:14] <lozzd_uni> Well, if I do a df on my server, it reports 27gb in use, which leaves me only a few GB free. if I do a "sudo du -chs *" it reports a total of 4.5G. Where has all my hard drive disappeared to?
[02:14] <sophtpaw> MenZa: thx!
[02:14] <MenZa> np sophtpaw
[02:14] <Sanne> whmice, good luck. Remember that the version must match exactly the kernel you are using.
[02:14] <lozzd_uni> so far the forum has turned up empty
[02:15] <rixth> I'm willing to PAY the person who fixes this problem. It is time critical.
[02:15] <lozzd_uni> everyone gives me different methods of DUing, all resulting in ubuntu saying i have 4.5G free
[02:15] <Lupos> i am trying to open a file, it is defenetly there, but bash says this file isnt there. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11957
[02:15] <rixth> I need very urgent help. When I start my system, it says "Wating for root file system" then, after a couple min, drops me to a busy box shell. "?ALERT! /dev/sda2 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"
[02:15] <DBO> lozzd_uni, intriguing...
[02:15] <vge> can i make deb from compiled program?
[02:16] <Sanne> vge, I don't think so, but you can make a deb during the compiling process.
[02:16] <lozzd_uni> yes, and quite worrying, its been decreasing stedily the whole time now, and now I only have 3gb left! i thought it was me being stupid and some log file was building up but no one seems to be able to fix it!
[02:16] <setuid> I'm trying to change font sizes/faces on gnome-panel, sawfish's menus, etc. gnome-font-properties doesn't do it. Can someone help?
[02:16] <patrick52222> i just installed FrostWire-4.10.9-1.i586.deb, but frostwire doesnt run
[02:16] <Deltanox> hey i need some help plz: trying to extract a archive to var/www/ but im told i dont hav permission to do so. What do i do?
[02:16] <Alexandre> Hey guys, what the name o package to java and flash on dapper?!?!?
[02:16] <DBO> lozzd_uni, well, lets see what happens when it hits 0!
[02:17] <setuid> Deltanox: get proper perms
[02:17] <vge> Sanne: means that i can then run that deb and no need to compile everytime? thats what im asking
[02:17] <Alexandre> In browser?!?!
[02:17] <Alexandre> Hey guys, what the name o package to java and flash on dapper In browser?!?!
[02:17] <lozzd_uni> DBO: i think you can guess which server this is. the one for denness.net :P i dont want this to die when it hits 0!
[02:17] <Deltanox> setuid: how? it says i need to be the owner
[02:17] <p62> ubuntu-ru
[02:17] <Sanne> vge, I don't follow you... you need to compile only once, either way. What do you want to do exactly?
[02:17] <setuid> Deltanox: su - owner-name
[02:18] <vge> Sanne: backup deb
[02:18] <p62> #ubuntu-ru
[02:18] <Sanne> vge, you want to backup a deb file? Sorry, I'm not too quick today.
[02:18] <venin> paste?
[02:18] <DBO> lozzd_uni, oh fine, if you insist (btw, no pasting in here, just FYI)
[02:18] <lozzd_uni> ok sure
[02:18] <MenZa> Well this is weird. Every time I launch Firefox (<IP_ADDRESS>), it starts on the University of Arizona's website, even though my home-page is set to http://www.ubuntuforums.org - and it goes there when I click the Home icon aswell. Anyone experienced this before?
[02:18] <DBO> lozzd_uni, "du -skx /"
[02:19] <DBO> sudo that
[02:19] <bk> hey ppl
[02:19] <vge> Sanne: no no, i just want to compile a program and in the same time, make a backup form that as a deb file, then if i need to compile it again, i can use the deb file?
[02:19] <DBO> MenZa, yeah, i did to
[02:19] <epinephrine> MenZa: are you on an AP that belongs to the university of arizona? :p
[02:19] <lozzd_uni> DBO: 3782320 /
[02:19] <venin> ok, im trying to install a new driver for alsa.. this is what i get on configure: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11958
[02:19] <venin> any help?
[02:19] <lozzd_uni> which, with an -H for humanreadable is 3.7G
[02:19] <bk> can some1 plz help me install the OS on a USB disk?
[02:19] <bk> can some1 plz help me install the OS on a USB disk?
[02:19] <bk> can some1 plz help me install the OS on a USB disk?
[02:20] <DBO> lozzd_uni, you are human?
[02:20] <DBO> !patience
[02:20] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[02:20] <setuid> bk: No need to repeat
[02:20] <epinephrine> bk: don't repeat, it makes people not help at all.
[02:20] <Deltanox> setuid: where do i type that?:S
[02:20] <bk> sorry
[02:20] <DBO> lozzd_uni, df is the one reporting 10+ free correct?
[02:20] <Sanne> vge, ah, ok. Well, if you want to compile it again, there's no way around it. A deb file is just a specific way to pack a binary. But you can install it easier with a deb. you can also install a compiled program with "make install" again if you didn't make a deb from it.
[02:21] <Cin> There a way to get amarok playing wma files?
[02:21] <lozzd_uni> no, df reports 3.7 available
[02:21] <lozzd_uni> if i du the entire drive, it reports 4.5G taken
[02:21] <doms>  cannot open /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build/include/linux/version.h (No su ch file or directory)
[02:22] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11959
[02:22] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11959
[02:22] <vge> Sanne: kk, i guess your right
[02:22] <mikodelacruz> .
[02:22] <DBO> lozzd_uni, if it makes you feel any better, I suffer from the same glitch
[02:22] <setuid> Deltanox: at the shell, of course
[02:22] <lozzd_uni> so bsaically, 28gb used in "df", and 4.7G taken in du
[02:22] <lozzd_uni> DBO: haha, oh good :/
[02:22] <DBO> lozzd_uni, no problems yes =P
[02:22] <lozzd_uni> so how much do i actually have left on my drive?!
[02:22] <Sanne> vge, yes, I think so :)
[02:22] <mikodelacruz> What kind of Java do i need to download for my FireFox. I am using UBUNTU
[02:22] <DBO> the df is the correct value
[02:22] <lozzd_uni> because i *should* only have 4.7gb, its only a web server
[02:22] <lozzd_uni> damn :/
[02:23] <DBO> lozzd_uni, wasnt du the smaller of the two?
[02:23] <Deltanox> setuid: k so what exactly do i type? and what does it do?
[02:23] <DBO> these commands need bigger names, Im getting them mixed up, and not having slept isnt helping
[02:23] <vge> why when i click "show desktop" button, it minimizes it, but when in the desctop ill make a new folder with mouse2, the dropped down content jumps back up?
[02:24] <lozzd_uni> haha ok, du is the one that scans, and takes a little while, reports each directory with the correct values and reports back with 4.7G USED. which i think is correct. DF is the one that lists all the mounted drives, and reports that 28G is used
[02:24] <freakabcd> lozzd_uni, you just need to get used to the commands
[02:25] <Sanne> mikodelacruz, here's some info on that: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:25] <freakabcd> they have been the same for a very loooong time
[02:25] <lozzd_uni> freakabcd: right... so how much drive space do i actually have free then?
[02:25] <DBO> lozzd_uni, are you doing a straight "df"
[02:25] <patrick52222> im havin a problem installin java heres the problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11960
[02:25] <BlueEagle> !java
[02:25] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:25] <freakabcd> doesn;t df -lh display the amount of free space left ?
[02:25] <lozzd_uni> DBO: yes. or with an -H because that gives me it in G :P
[02:26] <ChatUser> anyone around who can tell me in a non wiseass way why I should switch to ubuntu from fedora core? I have used linux maybe 10 days in the last few years so wanting a good distro to learn on again
[02:26] <lozzd_uni> freakabcd: as far as can see that does exactly the same as df -h
[02:26] <painkiler> how do i know if a program is active?
[02:26] <setuid> Deltanox: Read a "Learning Linux" HOWTO please
[02:26] <painkiler> or running?
[02:26] <patrick52222> !javadebs
[02:26] <painkiler> whats the command to see the list?
[02:26] <freakabcd> lozzd_uni, err.. -l lists only local filesystems
[02:26] <Sanne> patrick24601, java-package is in multiverse
[02:26] <freakabcd> i.e. no nfs mounts, etc.
[02:27] <lozzd_uni> oh
[02:27] <lozzd_uni> all my filesystems are local :P
[02:27] <venin> fedora is easier i think.. since u can type "yum install and yum search" instead of "apt-get install and apt-cache search"
[02:27] <venin> :)
[02:27] <freakabcd> ok. but mine arent
[02:27] <lozzd_uni> ok then
[02:27] <ChatUser> venin: is ubuntu easier to use though as a secondary desktop
[02:27] <Sanne> painkiler, ps ax or ps aux, I believe.
[02:27] <ChatUser> or is it all the same in that regard
[02:28] <venin> ChatUser, huh? what u mean?
[02:28] <BlueEagle> patrick52222: Getting any wiser from those links?
[02:28] <ChatUser> well I am using it to learn Linux and the ways around the OS, but it will be a secondary machine so does it really matter on the distro?
[02:28] <painkiler> and what the command to kill a program?
[02:28] <Sanne> venin, you can make an alias for apt-get and apt-cache :)
[02:29] <freakabcd> painkiler, take a guess: kill
[02:29] <patrick52222> nope i am following instruction off the restricted format page but still nothing
[02:29] <ChatUser> I guess I am looking for a community that is willing to help out a n00b every so often hehe
[02:29] <lozzd_uni> DBO: damn, how come I cant pm you?
[02:29] <DBO> you need to register your nick
[02:29] <ballz> Hellp
[02:29] <lozzd_uni> oh damnit i see, im logged onto my registered nick on my desktop haha
[02:29] <freakabcd> ChatUser, the thing is. once you want to play around, its not really specific to any distro
[02:29] <ballz> I mean hello :)
[02:29] <lozzd_uni> stupid me
[02:29] <DBO> lozzd_uni, I wasnt kidding about how strict those rules get =P
[02:30] <ChatUser> freak is ubuntu a good base though? I only installed fedora yesterday I am not tied to it :-)
[02:30] <painkiler> so, kill vlc?
[02:30] <sophtpaw> chatuser: Ubuntu rocks