[01:41] <conor> can someone tell me what they have in the box on network settings
[01:43] <conor> anything with ip6
[01:43] <conor> ....
[01:43] <fdoving> eft: what is your setup like? you'll have to restart dhclient to make it re-read the config.
[01:43] <conor> :_(
[01:44] <eft> fdoving: I've got nic to nic with my debian server that doesn't run a dhcp server
[01:44] <mkaster> MistaED2: It asks for a password
[01:44] <fdoving> eft: where do you get the dhcp information from? i doubt dhclient will update resolv.conf if there is no dhcp-server available.
[01:45] <Gunirus> hio
[01:45] <Gunirus> hi
[01:45] <MistaED2> mkaster: yeah put in your admin/root password
[01:45] <Gunirus> I have a problem on edgy
[01:45] <Gunirus> I can't set my keyboard layout
[01:45] <Gunirus> The list is empt
[01:45] <Gunirus> y
[01:45] <mkaster> MistaED2: i didnt set one up for root
[01:45] <travkin> Gunirus, use xorg.conf
[01:45] <travkin> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:45] <MistaED2> mkaster: yeah ubuntu uses sudo so just use your user password
[01:46] <Gunirus> But, why is the list in kcontrol empty?
[01:46] <eft> fdoving: Well, ifdown/ifup and networking restart don't do anything but after a reboot resolv.conf is again overwritten eventhough I *think* I set it up as static.
[01:46] <conor> !ipv6
[01:46] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:46] <trench-> some kde modules most likely failed to load
[01:46] <xsteadfastx> is there a way to boot from the actual kubuntu cd in the server mode?
[01:46] <agresion> `Alex
[01:46] <mkaster> MistaED2: ok now to follow the rest of tyhe directions
[01:47] <Gunirus> xorg.conf is correct
[01:47] <Gunirus> only my alt gr + ... keys are not working
[01:48] <`Alex> just an answer i want .......... can i do something to actualy login as root ?
[01:49] <fdoving> eft: do you have the package 'resolvconf' installed?
[01:49] <fdoving> !rootsudo | `alex
[01:49] <ubotu> `alex: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:49] <eft> fdoving: yes
[01:50] <mkaster> MistaED2: is the symbol between the 0 and 220 an x?
[01:50] <conor> this means ipv6 is still enabled right ?
[01:50] <conor> conor@conor-desktop:~$  ip a | grep inet6
[01:50] <conor>     inet6 ::1/128 scope host
[01:50] <conor>     inet6 fe80::215:f2ff:fe77:3005/64 scope link
[01:50] <MistaED2> mkaster: yep
[01:50] <conor> woops
[01:50] <conor> wasnt the pastebin link xD
[01:50] <Gunirus> travkin: Now everything is fine, except alt gr + ... keys
[01:52] <hirs> hi
[01:52] <fdoving> eft: then you can use resolvconf to manage nameservers. 'man resolvconf' , the easy way is to put your resolv.conf entries in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[01:52] <MetaBookfoziS> Morrissey > have you any idea where i need to go?
[01:52] <conor> anyone know how i reset all my internet and network settings to when i installed ?
[01:52] <fdoving> eft: that file is prepended to the dynamic nameserver entries created by resolvconf.
[01:52] <hirs> does anyone know why I get a crash dialog in kaffeine on exit?
[01:53] <hirs> I'm using version 0.8.2-0ubuntu2
[01:54] <eft> fdoving: thanks, will try, but this one also says "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN". And afaik /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink to this file.
[01:55] <mkaster> MistaED2: i did everything up to "if u want sound at startup" but theres nothing in the mixers when i goto the sound thing
[01:55] <fdoving> eft: it's not a link to that file. it's a link to /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf
[01:55] <travkin>  Error loading '/home/travkin/.xchat2/xmms-info.pl':
[01:55] <travkin>  Can't locate MP3/Info.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 4) line 4.
[01:55] <travkin>  BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 4) line 4.
[01:55] <travkin> wtf?
[01:56] <travkin> libxmms-perl installed
[01:56] <MistaED2> mkaster: ok with the modprobe command did it complain, what did it do?
[01:56] <kaffeewoller> hi guys, i am having an installation problem with the alternate cd of kubuntu edgy
[01:56] <mkaster> it didnt give any output
[01:56] <kaffeewoller> i am given a Debootstrap Error, Faild to determine the codename for the release.
[01:56] <fdoving> eft: you'll edit the file that includes the warning at the top in /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf. resolv.conf is generated from teh files in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/
[01:56] <kaffeewoller> what's going on?
[01:57] <eft> fdoving: Ok thanks a lot?! gonna try it now. brb :)
[01:58] <mkaster> MistaED2:  it didnt give any output
[01:58] <kaffeewoller> so I can't even install the base system
[01:58] <cox377> I've got this problem when i do sudo -i
[01:58] <cox377> or anything to do with sudo
[01:58] <cox377> it gives this error
[01:59] <cox377> cant stat /etc/sudoers: no such file or directory
[01:59] <cox377> does anyone know what this might be?
[01:59] <MistaED2> mkaster: hmm, i guess just continue on with putting the snd-es18xx into the /etc/modules file and restart ubuntu, if you still don't get any sound try editing the files and put snd-es16xx in instead
[02:00] <mkaster> MistaED2: i just restarted kmix and it didnt have the X over it anymore im gonna look for my mp3 file i had and try to play it
[02:01] <cox377> anyone?
[02:01] <MistaED2> mkaster: ok cool, maybe look for a program such as xmms which uses alsa natively, as a lot of kde apps go through "ARTS" first, which sucks
[02:01] <eft> fdoving: Thanks a lot, it works! Now in gonna unbork all the other config files I've mangled in the process :)
[02:04] <zerak> do microsoft sponsor Ubuntu / Kubuntu ? ( I am seriously starting to wonder )
[02:06] <vryko> goodmorning everybody
[02:06] <mkaster> MistaED2: i'm in kaffeine player and i opened up the xine engine settings and set it to also but it isnt playing and there are these expert settings that are confusing
[02:08] <cox377> zerak: what makes u say that?
[02:08] <MistaED2> mkaster: ok try what i said just above, experiment a little
[02:08] <mkaster> MistaED2: is it supposed to make a sound when i raise and lower the volume in the mixer?
[02:08] <MetaBookfoziS> hmm my firefox goes crazy
[02:08] <MistaED2> snd-es16xx instead of snd-es18xx perhaps, or just restart with the /etc/modules filled out
[02:09] <MistaED2> mkaster: probably not, so there's a sound chip appearing in the mixer?
[02:09] <cox377> "cant stat /etc/sudoers: no such file or directory"
[02:09] <zerak> cox377 due to all the bugs
[02:09] <MetaBookfoziS> http://metamorfozis.hu/p/ff.png
[02:09] <mkaster> yes it says ESS AudioDrive ES1869
[02:10] <MetaBookfoziS> please check it, my buttons and controls died
[02:10] <MetaBookfoziS> why?
[02:10] <mkaster> should I try restarting?
[02:10] <cox377> zerak: lol
[02:10] <zerak> cox377 and i configure something to work and then later it is all gone
[02:10] <cox377> zerak: thats odd
[02:10] <cox377> so far my kubuntu has been running perfectly, it's become  little unstable the last couple of days but thats a hw issue i think
[02:11] <MistaED2> mkaster: yes try a restart, and good it appears in the mixer (i'm thinking now it could be the dma1= & dma2= may need their numbers swapped or something silly like that
[02:11] <wilman> i dont hear sound whit flashplayer. does anyone has a remedy ?
[02:12] <zerak> cox377 if you want to see things that are odd, use user management and try to get admin mode, sometimes you get a dialog sometimes you get stuck without a dialog and unable to do anything (like SuSe -"do you want to proced?" and gives one BIG OK dialog (no no button or cancel)
[02:13] <zerak> cox377 or what about previously in ubuntu, saving root password in the log file so that anybody could read it
[02:14] <zerak> cox377 uninstalling xserver without reason if you ask me
[02:15] <Hobbsee> wilman: in firefox?
[02:16] <wilman> ja
[02:16] <wilman> is dat makkelijk op te lossen?
[02:16] <wilman> is that easy to solve?
[02:16] <Hobbsee> wilman: install alsa-oss, and run aoss firefox
[02:17] <Hobbsee> !flash
[02:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:17] <mkaster> yeah its still not playing
[02:17] <wilman> ok
[02:18] <Hobbsee> wilman: see the troubleshooting under https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-c268ba69c6b38af1dc31ea09701c7d296cf971c3 for a permanent solution
[02:19] <wilman> well even with aoss it doesnt work
[02:19] <mkaster> for some reason no media player on kubuntu will play the audi or even start playing but audio comes out of the speakers when i close windows
[02:21] <Alter-Ego> what is initramfs used for
[02:21] <Alter-Ego> ?
[02:21] <unclemike> ? whats the latest kernel for 6.06...i have 2.6.15-23-386 installed right now
[02:32] <icheyne> unclemike, I'm on edgy, but so long as you are on a P2 or above, you should install the 686 kernel
[02:33] <unclemike> im on a p2 450
[02:35] <BluesKaj> Howdy All ! :)
[02:55] <cntb> A guy asked me
[02:55] <cntb> >>>>> (15:40:22) bloodhound: cntb: i could say with so many debian derivates , why ubuntu ?
[02:55] <cntb> what do I answer ?
[02:55] <Jucato> "personal choice/preference/taste"
[02:56] <cntb> that's all Jucato?
[02:56] <Jucato> it's the only one that you won't need to defend :)
[02:56] <cntb> heard of puppyOS ?
[02:56] <Mehercle> How can i reconfigure my x server?
[02:56] <cntb> here comes the root
[02:56] <Jucato> heard of it, never seen/tried it
[02:56] <Jucato> Mehercle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:56] <Mehercle> thanks
[02:57] <cntb> me neither
[02:57] <cntb>  -- jucato /whois bloodhound
[02:57] <Smooph> hi anbody here who knows his way through css
[02:57] <Jucato> O.o
[02:58] <cntb> and  -/invite jucato #puppylinux
[02:58] <Jucato> err.. why?
[02:58] <cntb> just so
[02:58] <Duesentrieb> hi all - i lost the tray icon for laptop battery status (klaptopdeamon/powernow, i guess). How do i get it back?
[02:59] <Duesentrieb> i can't find anything in the "add applet" dialog
[02:59] <cntb> Duesentrieb: -- I guess >> System Settings
[02:59] <Duesentrieb> cntb: didn't see anything obvious there either...
[03:00] <Duesentrieb> in the control panel, i mean
[03:00] <Duesentrieb> System- > Settings doesn't exist
[03:00] <Jucato> he meant "System Settings"
[03:00] <cntb> no no Duesentrieb
[03:00] <cntb> exactly Jucato Duesentrieb
[03:01] <cntb> and there maybe hardware > Laptops & Power
[03:01] <Duesentrieb> (background: i tried kpowersave, which replaces klaptopdaemon/powernowd/apmd; but it didn't work, so i reverted. But now i don't see a frontend for the laptop/power stuff any more)
[03:01] <cntb> Duesentrieb:  last above pls
[03:02] <Duesentrieb> cntb: there's nothing about hardware or laptop or power there.
[03:03] <cntb> on mine there is
[03:03] <Duesentrieb> im using 3.5.5
[03:03] <Duesentrieb> kde 3.5.5 that is
[03:03] <cntb> I even found a place Duesentrieb
[03:04] <Duesentrieb> oh cool, where?
[03:04] <cntb> check it out Duesentrieb SystemSettings > HARDWARE > LAptop &Power > LAPTOP battery > checkbox for "Show battery monitor"
[03:05] <Duesentrieb> there's no hardware section in the system settings.
[03:05] <cntb> ask other ppl here will ell you the same Duesentrieb
[03:05] <Duesentrieb> cntb: are you using edgy?
[03:05] <cntb> what sections you have I have it translated to hebrew
[03:05] <cntb> dapper
[03:05] <Duesentrieb> yes, on dapper, the dialog was very different
[03:06] <Duesentrieb> had a lot more sections
[03:06] <cntb> is that it ? changes in edgy Duesentrieb ?
[03:06] <Duesentrieb> what "it"?
[03:06] <Duesentrieb> edgy makes it hard for me to find the settings, yes
[03:06] <cntb> press show all Duesentrieb
[03:07] <Jucato> have you tried using the search bar?
[03:07] <Duesentrieb> edgy also uses a different deamon and applet for power & laptop stuff, iirc
[03:07] <Duesentrieb> there'S no "show all". There'S "advanced", which gives me ttuff lice partitions, gdm config, systenv services.
[03:07] <Duesentrieb> but no power/acpi stuff
[03:08] <mildner> hi there how can I change to the german section...
[03:08] <Jucato> Duesentrieb: you can type in the search bar the keyword, like "power"
[03:08] <BluesKaj> !de
[03:08] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:08] <Jucato> it will show you how many "hits" you have
[03:08] <Duesentrieb> Jucato: no matches.
[03:08] <Jucato> strange...
[03:08] <mildner> how can i safe these locations
[03:09] <Duesentrieb> mildner: "safe"? depends on what program you are using for IRC, i guess.
[03:09] <Duesentrieb> normally, you don't "save" channels...
[03:09] <sybux> Hi, I'm trying to watch some divx video but I can't. I've install the w32codecs but kaffe
[03:09] <cntb> systen settings shows me the binary is called ngs
[03:09] <Duesentrieb> Jucato, cntb: do you have an idea in what package this stuff could be located? perhaps it got uninstalled when i tried kpowersave
[03:10] <cntb> where is the ngs in dapper
[03:10] <Jucato> nope
[03:10] <sybux> ... but kaffeine still say that there is no plugin
[03:10] <cntb> Duesentrieb: try  >>> sudo apt-cache search blabla
[03:10] <cntb> k?
[03:11] <Duesentrieb> cntb: did that. "ngs" turns up lots and lots of stuff. what'S ngs anyway?
[03:11] <Duesentrieb> apt search is much too broad to be useful
[03:11] <cntb> grep it then Duesentrieb ;-)
[03:11] <mazu> is it possible to use apt-get to check dependences of all installed packages?
[03:12] <cntb> sudo apt-cache search blabla | grep yourstring
[03:12] <Duesentrieb> cntb: that would be redundant. the grep would be just as broad.
[03:13] <Duesentrieb> mazu: "check dependencies"? it should always warn you if you have broken dependencies. you can run "apt-get -f install" (without a package) to fix broken package dependencies
[03:13] <mazu> In my openoffice instead of letters in interface there are squares, and I think i might removed some package when I was uninstallig gnome
[03:13] <Jucato> "apt-cache depends <package>" or "apt-cache depends --recurse <package>"
[03:14] <Jucato> very useful when partnered with "grep <search_pattern>"
[03:15] <Duesentrieb> ok, let me try a different approach:
[03:15] <Duesentrieb> anyone using edgy on a laptop?
[03:15] <mazu> yes
[03:16] <Duesentrieb> mazu: got a battery life display near the clock?
[03:16] <mazu> yes
[03:16] <Duesentrieb> can you tell me what it is called?
[03:16] <mazu> klaptop
[03:16] <Duesentrieb> hm... I think that was the one i had in dapper... edgy installed another one. hm...
[03:16] <mazu> if you are using kde og course
[03:16] <Duesentrieb> i am
[03:17] <Duesentrieb> but "klaptop" isn't offered as an applet to add.
[03:17] <Duesentrieb> on the command line, i only see klaptop_acpi_helper AND klaptop_check - that'S not it
[03:18] <mazu> hmmm it's a daemon
[03:18] <mazu> the full name of package is klaptopdaemon
[03:18] <Duesentrieb> yes... i have that
[03:18] <Duesentrieb> but a deamon doesn't have a ui by itself.
[03:19] <cntb> bad news . yesterday I tried kubuntu on one of newest LG COREduo laptops and.. install wont detect nenetcard pciexpress RT8168
[03:19] <Duesentrieb> anyway, gotta run
[03:19] <Duesentrieb> bbl
[03:19] <mazu> hmmm after I had installed this, the icon shows up
[03:19] <cntb> your case instructive ty Duesentrieb
[03:19] <cntb> #kubuntu rather sleepy now
[03:22] <mazu> here is a link to a thread on ubuntuforums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=306226
[03:22] <mazu> I'm heaving problems with openoffice interface fonts
[03:22] <mazu> maybe someone can help me???
[03:23] <BluesKaj> anyone have the google earth repository in their sources list ?
[03:26] <pascal> hi all
[03:27] <BluesKaj> hi pascal
[03:28] <pascal> cu
[03:28] <Jucato> Blaise Pascal?
[03:28] <Jucato> :)
[03:36] <cntb> where is the binary of  KDESystemSettings of dapper in filesystem?
[03:36] <martint> any budy home?
[03:37] <martint> any budy knows some irc server howto?
[03:38] <Jucato> cntb: what do you mean
[03:38] <martint> I want to install IRC server on my machine (AMD64 6.10)
[03:39] <martint> itried through apt-get, but couldn't figure out how to make it work
[03:40] <Jucato> cntb: System Settings is launched by the "systemsettings" command in /usr/bin/ and the package that installs it is kde-systemsettings
[03:40] <BluesKaj> which client ?
[03:40] <Jucato> he said wants to install an IRC server?
[03:41] <cntb> how do I check uptime?
[03:41] <abattoir> cntb: 'uptime' in a terminal
[03:41] <abattoir> (or konsole)
[03:41] <cntb> ah ty
[03:42] <martint> yep IRC server
[03:42] <cntb> and how do  it have reported on kde? uptime Imean
[03:43] <abattoir> cntb: you mean you want it shown on your desktop or something?
[03:43] <Morrissey> hey, I kind of !offtopic question, but I have a 2.2 mhz Pentium 4 with 2x256mb RAM. And using XGL my computer's kinda slow (Not the 3d effects thought). Would buying a 1gb RAM chip, and replace it with one of the 256 one improve my KDE envioriemnt?
[03:44] <mc__> Morrissey: it would
[03:44] <Morrissey> mc__, ok, good to hear. Because normal browsing and changing between windows is really slow ..
[03:45] <mc__> Morrissey: not using XGL would bring a bigger performance gain
[03:46] <Morrissey> mc__, of course :) But I want both :P
[03:46] <mc__> Morrissey: you could try AIGLX instead fo XGL
[03:46] <Morrissey> I am .. actually :)
[03:47] <martint> No IRC server howto?
[03:49] <martint> ok sayonara
[03:49] <oem> i have just installed kubuntu. the menus behave strangely, the focus always wanders to the topmost item
[03:49] <oem> do you have that, too?
[03:50] <oem> it wanders unless i am hovering over a branching item
[03:52] <dirollordi> alo
[03:53] <abattoir> oem: this is when you do not move the mouse pointer?
[03:53] <abattoir> oem: could you try restarting KDE?
[03:53] <oem> abattoir: 2x yes
[03:53] <oem> should i?
[03:54] <oem> i will. brb
[03:54] <abattoir> oem: well, it might work fine if you restart
[03:54] <abattoir> oem: else it is a bug
[03:54] <abattoir> oem: never seen something like this before though
[03:55] <dirollordi> someone knows if xgl can be integreted in kubuntu ?
[03:55] <Morrissey> Ive seen that aMSN takes a lot of memory, is the a good looking replacement?
[03:55] <Morrissey> dirollordi, I have KDE+AIGXL
[03:55] <Morrissey> AIXGL*
[03:56] <dirollordi> is it easy to install ?
[03:56] <Morrissey> hehe
[03:56] <Morrissey> it depends ..
[03:56] <Morrissey> ATI or Nvidia?
[03:56] <dirollordi> i'm new in the linux world ^^
[03:56] <dirollordi> ATI
[03:56] <abattoir> oem: works?
[03:56] <oem> abattoir: it is still broken
[03:56] <abattoir> oem: are you on a laptop?
[03:56] <oem> yes
[03:56] <Morrissey> dirollordi, then no .. it can be quite tricky ... ask around in #ubuntu-xgl and google some forums
[03:57] <abattoir> oem: amd64 OS ?
[03:57] <rafael_kubuntu> How can I edit a file?
[03:57] <oem> abattoir: no, x386
[03:57] <dirollordi> Morrissey : thx
[03:57] <Morrissey> RadiantFire, pico file
[03:57] <rafael_kubuntu> How can I edit a file?
[03:57] <Morrissey> RadiantFire, or "gedit file"
[03:58] <abattoir> rafael_kubuntu: kate file
[03:58] <defrysk> in kubuntu kate /path/to/file
[03:58] <abattoir> rafael_kubuntu: if you need to edit a file which has root access, 'kdesu kate file'
[03:58] <defrysk> need root ? sudo kate /path/to/file
[03:58] <Jucato> !kdesu
[03:58] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[03:58] <abattoir> (/path/to/file, as defrysk suggests, if you aren't in that dir.)
[03:59] <abattoir> oem: that's weird...
[03:59] <dirollordi> this channel is only for kubuntu users ?
[03:59] <abattoir> oem: everything else works fine?
[03:59] <Jucato> dirollordi: kubuntu-support actually
[03:59] <oem> well, as far as i can see, yes
[03:59] <dirollordi> yes ok
[04:00] <abattoir> dirollordi: yes, #ubuntu is for general ubuntu(gnome support)
[04:00] <oem> abattoir: but i haven't been trying a lot
[04:00] <dirollordi> ok
[04:00] <dirollordi> i'll stay here ^^
[04:00] <oem> abattoir: owning the system for an hour now
[04:00] <abattoir> oem: cool, it came with kubuntu pre-installed?
[04:01] <oem> no, i did that myself, from the alternate cd
[04:01] <abattoir> oem: oh, so you installed in the oem mode...
[04:01] <asam> moin
[04:01] <oem> abattoir: yes
[04:01] <oem> abattoir: obviously :D
[04:01] <abattoir> :P
[04:01] <asam> ich suche mall die krusader kan jmanden helifen ??
[04:01] <abattoir> !de
[04:01] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:02] <abattoir> !krusader
[04:02] <ubotu> krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70.1-1 (edgy), package size 2547 kB, installed size 6940 kB
[04:03] <defrysk> !info krusader | asam
[04:03] <ubotu> krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70.1-1 (edgy), package size 2547 kB, installed size 6940 kB
[04:03] <asam> und wo kanmmer das finden ?
[04:03] <BluesKaj> !de
[04:03] <abattoir> !de | asam
[04:03] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:03] <ubotu> asam: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:04] <defrysk> asam, krusader is in universe repo
[04:06] <oem> i dont know. did anyone else have this problem?
[04:09] <xTavares> hello
[04:10] <cox377> can anyone recommend a program for light editing of image files?
[04:11] <LjL> cox377: krita? :)
[04:11] <heinkel_111> is it possible to get flash working on a 64-bit now?
[04:12] <cox377> LjL: cheers ;) just install xpaint, shall install krita as well
[04:12] <Jucato> digikam or gwenview with kipi-plugins?
[04:12] <Jucato> krita is already installed by default on Kubuntu
[04:13] <cox377> LjL: opps it was already installed
[04:14] <cox377> Jucato: yup
[04:14] <cox377> Jucato: just the guy, i've got a prob when i try and run sudo of any sort.. do u think u could give me a minute?
[04:14] <Jucato> cox377: what problem?
[04:15] <cox377> cant stat /etc/sudoers - no such file or directory
[04:16] <LjL> cox377: and do you have an /etc/sudoers file?
[04:17] <Jucato> cox377: LjL is more adept in giving you a hand...
[04:17] <cox377> nope
[04:17] <Jucato> :)
[04:17] <LjL> cox377: any idea of when and why you could possibly have deleted it?
[04:17] <cox377> LjL: well it's on a new install
[04:17] <cox377> LjL: technically i shouldnt ask the question here
[04:17] <LjL> not good
[04:17] <LjL> why?
[04:18] <cox377> LjL: it's not for dreamlinux another debian based os that i'm just checking out on another machine but the support here is faultless
[04:19] <LjL> cox377: so on one machine sudo works fine, and on another it complains there's no /etc/sudoers, with the same distribution?
[04:19] <Morrissey> Mem:        have: 515756     used: 485176      free: 30580          0      17492     212416 <--- is this why my computers kind of slow lately? Changing applications windows, browsing, +++ is really slow :( Using KDE
[04:20] <LjL> cox377: this is the default /etc/sudoers for Ubuntu, you might want to use it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33924/  -  to make things work, you must make users that need sudo access members of group "admin"
[04:20] <cox377> LjL: nah, this is the kubuntu machine that i'm currently on and it's fine, i've just installed dreamlinux on another machine for test purposes
[04:20] <cox377> LjL: cheers just opening up now
[04:21] <LjL> cox377 sudo needs to be configured. Ubuntu comes with sudo as the default means to get root privileges, but other distributions don't
[04:21] <cox377> LjL: ahh i see
[04:21] <cox377> does this site show me how?
[04:21] <LjL> which site, my pastebin link? that's just my own /etc/sudoers file... it might do the trick, but it might not
[04:22] <cox377> so i just gotta create a file with that?
[04:23] <LjL> cox377: i'd try that. make it owned by root:root, and give it permissions o=r,g=r,o=
[04:23] <Morrissey> fell out .. did anyone reply? :)
[04:23] <LjL> err i mean u=r,g=r,o=
[04:24] <Morrissey> here is my "free" output: Mem:        have: 515756    used: 450316     free: 65440 <--- and that is JUST after starting X up ... is that why my computer's so slow lately? Browsing web pages, changing windows everything .. slow
[04:24] <LjL> cox377: if you use "visudo" to create it, it'll probably get the right permissions automatically
[04:25] <paulw> Morrissey: I don't think so, are there any processes running?
[04:25] <LjL> Morrissey, that's not the full "free" output... look at buffers/caching as well. Linux uses up a lot of memory for file caching, but it'll promptly free it when it's needed
[04:25] <LjL> so in a way, the "free" figures are fake
[04:25] <Morrissey> paulw, yeah, beryl-xgl for instance :P And xchat, and amsn
[04:26] <Morrissey> but it would help with more RAM right?
[04:26] <cox377> LjL: nice one, just trying it out
[04:26] <cox377> i;ve pasted the text in just trying to work out how to get it to accept it got this WriteOut but struggling to activate it
[04:27] <paulw> Morrissey: are they eating up resources in top?  512MB of RAM should be plenty.
[04:27] <Morrissey> paulw, yeah, they are :P
[04:27] <Morrissey> paulw, at most theyr eating together about 50%
[04:28] <Morrissey> Xorg is constant at 20% and Beryl-xg is about 5-10
[04:30] <paulw> Morrissey: don't know
[04:30] <Morrissey> my god, 20%, thats alot
[04:31] <pirupiru> bonjours
[04:31] <LjL> my free output is for that matter is   Mem:        514864     507032       7832          0     111568     136732
[04:31] <Morrissey> how much does xorg use for you guys?
[04:31] <LjL> about 10% right now.
[04:31] <Morrissey> LjL, same as here (approx) ...
[04:32] <LjL> Morrissey: yes, which i'm saying is fine, itself. instead, look at the swap - are you using a lot of it?
[04:32] <cox377> LjL: your the daddy
[04:32] <superkirbyartist> It seems that every time my iMac goes on, the font looks messed and I have to go to KControl to adjust it.  What can I do so that it's automatic?
[04:32] <pirupiru> hi scuse me i'm trying to install kubuntu on my computer but QTparted doesn't accept that i create a swap partition, could someone help me please ? :)
[04:32] <LjL> i'm using 17 megs of swap right now. which means the system is fine
[04:32] <Morrissey> LjL, using 0 swap
[04:32] <LjL> so it's even finer
[04:32] <Morrissey> LjL, but my computer is really slow, and my fan starts alot :)
[04:33] <LjL> that looks like your CPU is being used a lot... not your RAM
[04:33] <LjL> look at the percentage figures in top *for the CPU*
[04:34] <superkirbyartist> Any help to keep the settings I have right now?
[04:34] <Morrissey> LjL, Cpu(s): 11.9%us,  2.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 84.8%id,  0.0%wa,  1.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
[04:34] <Morrissey> LjL, maybe its my graphic card then ..
[04:34] <LjL> doesn't look like it's being used much, either
[04:34] <BluesKaj> pirupiru, I suggest that you burn GParted to a disc and use it as a live cd for editing partitions ...it's very stable and easy to use , and it works !
[04:34] <DekKeD> I want to install kde-devel package, but I get "BREAK (install)". Any solutions?
[04:34] <LjL> dunno, maybe if you're using beryl and stuff...
[04:35] <Morrissey> LjL, maybe :) Ill buy some ram anyways
[04:35] <LjL> if it's cheap enough... but 512Mb isn't really that bad
[04:35] <LjL> and, don't be surprised if after you've bought another 512Mb, "free" still shows it's all being used
[04:36] <BluesKaj> pirupiru, QParted is buggy in edgy and dapper
[04:36] <Morrissey>  ie: chaning tabs in xchat is really slow ... brining up a window is really slow, and so on
[04:36] <Morrissey> LjL, ok, thanks :)
[04:37] <pirupiru> BluesKaj: so how can i create the partition i want please ?
[04:37] <Chris7mas> 512 isn't bad at all
[04:37] <BluesKaj> pirupiru, did you understand what i wrote ?
[04:38] <pirupiru> BluesKaj: you say that QTparted bug on the last version of the distribution
[04:39] <BluesKaj> yes, use GParted ...it's different and better than QParted
[04:39] <Narada> hi; which guide would you recommend to install xgl on kubuntu; there's so many of them and all different
[04:39] <BluesKaj> you have to burn Gparted to a cd , then use in the bootup
[04:40] <pirupiru> hum ok, and could kubuntu be installed on an extended partition ? :)
[04:41] <BluesKaj> yes
[04:41] <pirupiru> ok thanks a lot :)
[04:41] <BluesKaj> NP ..good luck
[04:41] <BluesKaj> :)
[04:42] <LjL> Morrissey: i'd look at the graphics card side of things for starters. i.e. disable XGL or whatever you've got, and see
[04:45] <Morrissey> LjL, actually just found out that this guy was using XGL with my card as well. Though it should be plenty to use XGL with, he has the same problem. Browsing web pages and all is slow
[04:45] <LjL> personally i just stay clear of XGL and the likes for the time being
[04:47] <Narada> how do you restart X on kubuntu
[04:47] <Morrissey> Narada, the easy way? :) ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:47] <LjL> Narada: ctrl+alt+backspace restarts it without any clean-up (so use it with care)
[04:47] <dr0fnax> !edgy
[04:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[04:48] <Morrissey> LjL, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Video_Card_Support_Under_XGL <--- shows Notes: Distorted Screen with both drivers (ati-drivers-8.22.05, 8.23.7) but works (slowly) with open source drm drivers
[04:48] <Morrissey> hopefully ittl get fixed :)
[04:48] <dr0fnax> !beryl
[04:48] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:48] <Narada> LjL: Morrissey isn't there an init script that deep stops and starts it?
[04:48] <LjL> Narada: yes, /etc/init.d/kdm
[04:48] <LjL> Narada: but never use it from inside X, only from a VT
[04:49] <LjL> "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart" will restart your X, if you run it from a VT
[04:49] <Narada> LjL: k that's exactly what i needed
[04:49] <LjL> Narada: it isn't too different from ctrl+alt+backspace though, really. it still doesn't turn your KDE off nicely
[04:50] <LjL> you should still log out, if you want to do things cleanly
[04:51] <Narada> LjL: stop and then start from vt then?
[04:52] <LjL> Narada: just "restart" will do nicely, without manually stopping and then starting
[04:56] <mneisen> hi, i am just upgrading to edgy eft and encounter some problems with dependencies. Somebody help me? Thanks in advance.
[04:57] <jamonation> mneisen: tried doing it with aptitude?
[04:57] <mneisen> not yet. How would I do that?
[04:58] <jamonation> sudo aptitude on the command line
[04:58] <mneisen> jamonation: and then? i guess this i not all that it takes ... :-D
[04:58] <abattoir> !upgrade | mneisen
[04:58] <ubotu> mneisen: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:59] <jamonation> then you... read what ubotu says...
[04:59] <mneisen> abattoir: thank you.
[04:59] <abattoir> mneisen: make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed, before proceeding
[04:59] <mneisen> jamonation: :-D
[05:00] <mneisen> jamonation: abattoir: Thank you for the link, but I already followed that procedure.
[05:01] <mneisen> apt-get -u dist-upgrade stopped with unmet dependencies (courier-imap and the like).
[05:01] <abattoir> mneisen: what error do you get? could you pastebin it?
[05:01] <abattoir> !pastebin
[05:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:01] <mneisen> that's were I got stuck.
[05:01] <mneisen> abattoir: one mom plz
[05:01] <abattoir> sure
[05:01] <abattoir> you also might need dapper-backports/dapper-updates enabled...
[05:02] <mneisen> mneisen@samsumm:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:02] <mneisen> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of tuxkart:
[05:02] <mneisen>  tuxkart depends on tuxkart-data (= 0.4.0-4.1ubuntu1); however:
[05:02] <mneisen>   Version of tuxkart-data on system is 0.4.0-4.1build1.
[05:02] <mneisen> dpkg: error processing tuxkart (--configure):
[05:02] <mneisen>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[05:02] <mneisen> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of courier-authlib-userdb:
[05:02] <mneisen>  courier-authlib-userdb depends on courier-authlib; however:
[05:02] <mneisen>   Package courier-authlib is not installed.
[05:02] <mneisen>  courier-authlib-userdb depends on courier-authlib (>= 0.58); however:
[05:02] <mneisen>   Package courier-authlib is not installed.
[05:02] <mneisen> dpkg: error processing courier-authlib-userdb (--configure):
[05:02] <abattoir> !pastebin | mneisen
[05:02] <ubotu> mneisen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:02] <mneisen>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[05:02] <mneisen> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:02] <mneisen>  tuxkart
[05:02] <mneisen>  courier-authlib-userdb
[05:02] <mneisen> ok ok.
[05:02] <abattoir> mneisen: i asked you to pastebin it, not paste it here
[05:02] <mneisen> sorry for that.
[05:03] <mneisen> here we go again: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33929/
[05:04] <abattoir> mneisen: try manually installnig courier-authlib-userdb and tuxkart-data
[05:04] <abattoir> mneisen: or you could remove them and install newer package later(after the upgrade to edgy)
[05:05] <mneisen> abattoir: I tried removing them.
[05:05] <mneisen> I will *pastebin* :-D the output.
[05:05] <abattoir> :)
[05:06] <LjL> mneisen you have some version mismatches
[05:06] <LjL> pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:06] <mneisen> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33931/
[05:06] <LjL> ah wait, the courier-* problem is a known bug i think
[05:06] <mneisen> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33933/
[05:07] <mneisen> LjL: OK, is there some doc on the WWW where I can read up on that bug?
[05:07] <LjL> mneisen: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/courier-authlib/+bug/64615
[05:11] <Cuddles_in_KY> morning all.
[05:11] <voicu> !mail
[05:11] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[05:11] <voicu> !sendmail
[05:11] <ubotu> sendmail: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.13.8-2 (edgy), package size 191 kB, installed size 248 kB
[05:11] <voicu> !exim4
[05:11] <ubotu> exim4: metapackage to ease exim MTA (v4) installation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.62-2 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[05:11] <voicu> which one would you suggest?
[05:11] <voicu> exmi or sendmail?
[05:11] <voicu> *exim
[05:12] <voicu> anyone?
[05:12] <Cuddles_in_KY> i'm having a slight problem using ndiswrapper on my laptop. i've got the driver installed, but when i do ''modprobe ndiswrapper'' i get ''invalid argument''. any suggestions on debugging/fixing this?
[05:12] <fdoving> voicu: i'd recommend postfix.
[05:13] <fdoving> !away | frankx
[05:13] <ubotu> frankx: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[05:13] <voicu> thanks fdoving
[05:14] <foxhound31> hello every time i try to use service command it doesnt seem to work
[05:14] <mneisen> LjL: Thank you so much, this really solved my issues.
[05:14] <foxhound31> as in service iptables restart
[05:14] <mneisen> Hope I can repay you one day.
[05:14] <foxhound31> just comes back ands says command doesnt exist
[05:14] <krikri> hi
[05:14] <foxhound31> what am i doing wrong here
[05:15] <krikri> is it possible to setup java on kubuntu please ?
[05:15] <Jucato> !java | krikri
[05:15] <ubotu> krikri: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:15] <krikri> thanks
[05:19] <Cuddles_in_KY> can someone please help me with this ndiswrapper error?
[05:21] <Chewie> Hi
[05:21] <Cuddles_in_KY> anyone?
[05:21] <ubuntu> Hello
[05:22] <ubuntu> Zna neko Srpski pizda vam materina????\
[05:22] <ubuntu> :))))
[05:22] <RaNgO> yo\
[05:22] <RaNgO> bitange
[05:22] <RaNgO> mamicu vam vasu
[05:22] <RaNgO> :)
[05:22] <Chewie> Anybody with kubuntu "feisty" is having trouble with acute accents in every KDE application?
[05:22] <RaNgO> VOLIM IVANU!!!!
[05:23] <Jucato> English only, please
[05:23] <Jucato> Chewie: you could ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:23] <Chewie> Thanks Jucato, I'll try
[05:24] <mkaster> does anyone know where i can learn linux?
[05:24] <RaNgO> English I do not know
[05:24] <RaNgO> :)
[05:24] <Jucato> mkaster: ah good start would be the Desktop Guide included in Kubuntu
[05:24] <mneisen> pity is that :-D
[05:24] <Jucato> K Menu -> Help
[05:24] <RaNgO> Why?
[05:24] <Jucato> RaNgO: this is the English channel.
[05:25] <RaNgO> It's cool enyway
[05:25] <RaNgO> :)
[05:25] <mneisen> Because you were asked to speak English.
[05:25] <RaNgO> lala
[05:25] <RadiantFire> the desktop guide is included in kubuntu
[05:25] <RadiantFire> konqueror -> k desktop guide
[05:25] <RaNgO> jucato fack you :)\
[05:25] <RaNgO> hehe
[05:25] <Morrissey> hehe
[05:25] <RaNgO> english only you say :)
[05:25] <LjL> !language | RaNgO
[05:25] <ubotu> RaNgO: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:25] <Jucato> !english
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about english - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <LjL> RaNgO: there are national channels. what is your language?
[05:25] <Jucato> lol.. :)
[05:25] <Morrissey> !japanese
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about japanese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <Morrissey> I should learn japanese
[05:26] <Jucato> hm...
[05:26] <Morrissey> how much FPS are you getting with benchmark?
[05:27] <RaNgO> Where are you from? (every one)
[05:27] <LjL> !offtopic | rango
[05:27] <ubotu> rango: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:27] <RaNgO> aha
[05:27] <RaNgO> ok man
[05:28] <gecekondu> S.a
[05:28] <RaNgO> what are you know about Kubuntu?\
[05:28] <gecekondu> nothin
[05:29] <gecekondu> what is it
[05:29] <LjL> !kubuntu
[05:29] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[05:29] <RaNgO> Can I get free kubuntu CD?
[05:29] <LjL> !shipit
[05:29] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.
[05:30] <RaNgO> cool
[05:30] <RaNgO> tnx LJL
[05:30] <zzz_> !LTS
[05:30] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[05:32] <Cuddles_in_KY> can someone -please- help me?
[05:32] <defrysk> !someone
[05:32] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:33] <Cuddles_in_KY> defrysk, i've asked twice, and gotten -no- response.
[05:33] <krikri> when i use the installation software i see something that i cant clic to setup it what is the problem :/ ?
[05:33] <zzz_> What is you question?
[05:33] <zzz_> your question..
[05:33] <Cuddles_in_KY> i'm having a slight problem using ndiswrapper on my laptop. i've got the driver installed, but when i do ''modprobe ndiswrapper'' i get ''invalid argument''. any suggestions on debugging/fixing this?
[05:33] <Cuddles_in_KY> the network card is using the wpndis51 driver (wavelan 1200).
[05:34] <defrysk> Cuddles_in_KY, be patient, as son there is someone that knows you will get your help/answer
[05:34] <defrysk> soon*
[05:35] <zzz_> What does $ modinfo ndiswrappper output. Does "invalid argument" refer to an argument given to modprobe?
[05:36] <zzz_> (Sorry for the typos.)
[05:37] <zzz_> Cuddles_in_KY ?
[05:37] <Cuddles_in_KY> zzz_, ''fatal: error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): invalid argument''
[05:37] <Cuddles_in_KY> sorry, had to type it in by hand.
[05:38] <zzz_> What command do you use to get that output? Just "modprobe ndiswrapper" ?
[05:38] <Cuddles_in_KY> zzz_, exactly.
[05:39] <zzz_> I am not very experienced with ndiswrapper... I understand that one needs to configure ndiswrapper before loading the module, right?
[05:40] <Cuddles_in_KY> zzz_, correct, and i have done that.
[05:40] <Cuddles_in_KY> ndiswrapper -i wpndis51.inf worked perfectly.
[05:41] <zzz_> Could it be that the driver you are using right now is not compatible with ndiswrapper? Could you try another driver, maybe from another vendor who uses the same chipset?
[05:42] <Morrissey> Wich driver should I use with ATI Radeon 9000? For now I have the "radeon" drivers, and beryl works, just kind of slow ...<--- FOR XGL/BERYL
[05:43] <Cuddles_in_KY> zzz_, that's part of the problem. no other vendors use that chipset.
[05:43] <zzz_> It may be that an e-mail to the ndiswrapper users' mailing list is in order...
[05:44] <Cuddles_in_KY> zzz_, the information i'm using came from here, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#Q
[05:44] <fibonacci> Is it really necessary to install all of PIM , if all I want is KAddresbook, Akregator and KMail ?
[05:44] <Cuddles_in_KY> and i've tried emailing that user, with no joy. the email address bounces.
[05:44] <cloakable> Does anybody here have experience with Kommander?
[05:44] <fibonacci> I mean I want them bundled in Kontakt
[05:45] <Dr_willis> cloakable,  I installed it.. but dont think i ever actually used it. Lol
[05:46] <Jucato> Kommander and Kontact???
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Kommander. :)
[05:46] <Jucato> yeah, I meant, he wanted Kommander bundled with Kontact?
[05:46] <cloakable> Dr_willis: Heh. I'm trying to make a frontend for [meta]  tracker. It works, but getting the results as a tree is frankly ugly :)
[05:46] <fibonacci> nonono
[05:47] <Jucato> lol
[05:47] <Jucato> sorry, not reading straight
[05:47] <zzz_> Cuddles_in_KY, I would try<EMAIL_ADDRESS>for a possible solution.
[05:47] <zzz_> I am sorry for being unable to help you.
[05:48] <elias_>  is anybody using vmware server on edgy sucessfully? I was having some problems with it: https://launchpad.net/bugs/64773
[05:48] <Jucato> fibonacci: I think you can install kontact, then remove the other parts you don't want.
[05:48] <Cuddles_in_KY> zzz_, thank you for at least trying.
[05:49] <fibonacci> Jucato:  okidoki, cheers man.
[05:49] <krikri> what does it mean when in the add/suppression of software the name of something is in grey ?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> elias_,  i use it all the time..  the other day someone was having issues installing it. Due i think to him having vmware-player installed beforhand.
[05:49] <zzz_> Cuddles_in_KY, One more thing: Are you really really sure that you have compiled ndiswrapper properly?
[05:50] <elias_> Dr_willis: I had 100% CPU load when I tried first (right after edgy release or just before it)
[05:50] <elias_> But if it works for you I am happy!
[05:50] <Dr_willis> elias_,  i had issues with it in the beta/prerelease of edgy
[05:50] <elias_> Which version are you using?
[05:50] <elias_> Dr_willis: So it might be resolved now, great!
[05:51] <elias_> By the way, can you use it full screen?
[05:51] <Cuddles_in_KY> zzz_, i installed it from apt actually.
[05:51] <Dr_willis> using whatever the latest free vmware server version is. I did a CLEAN install.. i never upgrade.
[05:51] <Dr_willis> ive used it fullscreen befor.. not tried it lately
[05:51] <elias_> this is the one beaty about vmware player
[05:52] <zzz_> Cuddles_in_KY, Have you tried compiling a newer version manually?
[05:52] <Cuddles_in_KY> zzz_, not yet, but i will if i have to.
[05:53] <zzz_> Cuddles_in_KY, I would be glad to help with that...
[05:54] <zzz_> [Out to dinner for 10-20 minutes...]
[05:55] <Cuddles_in_KY> zzz_, honestly, i was just going to give it one last shot before i toss the card into the lake. it was a ''gimme'', and even has trouble in windows.
[06:04] <elias_> Dr_willis: do you have any idea why I am having troubles to get assigned an IP on a vmware vitual interface which is a WLAN interface connected to a Linksys AP on the host OS?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> Ive never used vmware and wireelss cards. I dont even use wireless cards any more.
[06:05] <fibonacci> ./ubuntu
[06:05] <fibonacci> oops
[06:05] <fibonacci> hehe
[06:05] <sYnie> hey there ... i got a 1 GB USB pen. I installed a damn small linux, that works perfect. but I can't write data on the stick like changing password, installing software, except installing them into the image file. ist there any possibility to handle a usb pen like a hdd, for example to install a linux on it directly ?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> I think the DSL homepage has details on doing it that way.. and theres a LinuxPendrive site that has info/scripts to set them up also.
[06:06] <jseattle> can someone help me figure why firefox 2.0 keeps crashing in edgy eft?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> jseattle,  as a guess...  Flash Issues
[06:07] <sYnie> dr willis, i just found infos about installing the image
[06:07] <jseattle> but it does it on konqueror and galeon as well
[06:07] <Dr_willis> 'it does it' ? all 3 of those browsers crash?
[06:07] <jseattle> yes
[06:08] <jseattle> i try to watch local tv news and once it's time for flash to start, it crashes
[06:08] <jseattle> i have dapper cd and firefox, flash, etc work fine, just on edgy eft does it crash
[06:09] <Dr_willis> try installing the latest flash 9 beta
[06:09] <jseattle> k
[06:10] <Jucato> !flash9
[06:10] <ubotu> You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/backports/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[06:14] <hrp2171> hello.  i need to find a different link for a default repository: http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main   I was trying to install something that depends on thunderbird and i keep getting a 404 error
[06:14] <muge> h
[06:24] <Adun> hello... can somebody tell me... did kubuntu format windows partitions (ia have one FAT32 with WinXP on it and one NTFS for other shits:)... 1 partition with slackware on it (i want to format that partition and install kubuntu on it) and one swap partition... ) i'm ot step 5 where i select some partitions... so if i select the partition with slackware and the swap partition... will it format the other 2 partitions ? :/
[06:27] <d3imuddah> KDE suxx
[06:27] <ke> Freak
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Adun,  it pays to pay very very carefull attention :) i found that out the hard way. You 'may' want to manually delete the slack and swap partitions so they are unallocated. then let the isntaller  auto-allocate/use unallocated drive space.
[06:27] <d3imuddah> jus fux
[06:27] <d3imuddah> fun
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Adun,  ive manually selected partitions to be / and  told the isntaller to format them.
[06:28] <d3imuddah> #ubuntu
[06:28] <hrp2171> yeah, i lost my K menu and the other stuff on the taskbar.  somehow i still see the icons ive added to the panel.
[06:28] <defrysk> Adun, if you can install slackware I'm sure you can handle the prtitioner ok ubuntu
[06:28] <defrysk> of
[06:29] <hrp2171> oh well, im switching to xfce anyhow.
[06:29] <reon> How do I correlate sda numbers to (hd0,x) numbers ?
[06:29] <Adun> defrysk i'm not sure if it formats the windows partitions... that's why i've asked you :)
[06:29] <Adun> Dr_willis i have to format them first or just unallocate them ?
[06:30] <defrysk> Adun, easyes way to install is with the alternative install cd imho
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Adun,  if you are going to 'delete the partitiosn' there sno need to format them first. :)
[06:30] <defrysk> Adun, if you open the partitioner of the live cd you can see the properties of each partition
[06:30] <defrysk> live-cd = alternative cd sorry
[06:31] <defrysk> Adun, and what Dr_willis sais :0
[06:31] <Adun> thanks to all of you... :)
[06:32] <defrysk> Adun, just follow instructions and when the partitioner pops up select the manual way
[06:32] <defrysk> and delete all linux partitions makes the rest dead easy as Dr_willis said
[06:33] <Adun> :) thanks
[06:33] <defrysk> Adun, installer of alternative cd rules :)
[06:34] <Adun> :D
[06:36] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:36] <blainn> slow-motion -- Howdy
[06:37] <slow-motion> hi blainn
[06:38] <blainn> There are folks here, but I think they wait for questions to show themselves.
[06:38] <blainn> Like, in a minute or two, I'm going to ask a couple of questions, and I think they will bring a brief flurry of responses (because they are very easy questions) and then it'll settle down.
[06:41] <zzz_> What are your questions, blainn?
[06:41] <zzz_> (Heh!)
[06:41] <blainn> My first question:  Does the kubuntu installer allow me to install over my existing Xandros OCE install, preserving my /home tree?
[06:42] <blainn> See, it's working.
[06:42] <zzz_> Is your /home on a different partition?
[06:42] <blainn> I think I moved it to another physical drive, mounted from my root partition.
[06:43] <zzz_> I don't understand. Is /home on a different partition? Try "grep /home /etc/fstab"
[06:43] <zzz_> Or even better, "grep /home /etc/mtab"
[06:43] <blainn> Second question:  I heard a rumor that Firefox isn't available under kubuntu (or that it's a sub-2.0 version, or something like that).  Is there anything funky about FF and kubuntu?
[06:44] <zzz_> I am using Edgy Eft right now and I installed Firefox 2.0.
[06:44] <blainn> zzz_ I get a blank line to grep /home /etc/mtab
[06:44] <zzz_> (I am using Kubuntu 6.10, to be clear.)
[06:45] <zzz_> So it is very likely that /home is not on a separate partition... Then you might try the following:
[06:45] <blainn> I ask the first question because my install of Xandros over a Knoppix hd-install moved my /home to /oldhome
[06:45] <blainn> That was an option at install -- it also could just wipe the partition and install fresh.
[06:46] <zzz_> Use a live cd to delete everything except the /home directory. Then use the "Alternate" installation CD to make sure that the partition's contents are preserved during the installation.
[06:47] <blainn> At that point, it'd be easier to tarball /home and do a full install anyhow.
[06:47] <zzz_> Correct.
[06:47] <blainn> Ah, well.
[06:47] <zzz_> Sorry...
[06:47] <blainn> Hey, the right answer isn't always the easy answer.
[06:48] <blainn> I'll take the  right one every time.
[06:48] <xwolf-> !mp3
[06:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:52] <blainn> Thanks for your help.
[06:55] <elias_>  what is vmware-mui for?
[06:55] <fibonacci> How do I make "cd.." be equivalent with "cd .." ? (note the space, bloody anoying having to put the space in all the time).
[06:55] <zzz_> Try the following: alias cd..="cd .."
[06:56] <fibonacci> cheers
[06:56] <zzz_> You might want to append that line to your /etc/bash.bashrc file.
[07:05] <BluesKaj> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libdivxencore0_1%3a5.0.1-1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libdivxencore.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libdivxencore0-binary
[07:09] <fabian_> alguien conoce de sintonizadoras de tv?
[07:09] <griffjon> Afternoon and happy post-thanksgiving to y'all
[07:10] <griffjon> I'm having an annoying time finding a way to convince my poor old Dell cpi to standby (suspend to disk works great)
[07:11] <griffjon> but the standby feature wakes up after a few seconds due to my orinoco silver wireless card (i.e. it works right if the wireless card is out)
[07:11] <xwolf-> !avi
[07:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:12] <euwaex> witam
[07:12] <euwaex> kto mnie pomoze w instalacji na kubuntu firefoxa?
[07:12] <griffjon> I've enabled power mgmt on the wireless configurations, but it doesn't seem to take/have an effect with standby.  Can I add something to the standby script to depower the wifi card?
[07:12] <BombTron> anyone have trouble with amarok cover manager
[07:12] <BombTron> ?
[07:12] <Staren> Wow, people!
[07:13] <BombTron> word up
[07:13] <euwaex> pocztkujacy jestem wiec sie nie dziwcie
[07:13] <LjL> !pl
[07:13] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:13] <BombTron> !amarok
[07:13] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[07:14] <Staren> So. I once had this laptop, a Win95 computer with a 40GB HDD. Sadly, its long life was brought to an end when an unexpected short downward flight ended in a broken screen. The rest is intact, though. Now I've gotten a new laptop, whihc has Win XP and a 20GB (ick!) HDD. But, I've recently obtained a 100GB HDD, and here's what I want to do...
[07:15] <Staren> Copy both over onto the one drive, _and_ add a linux partition for KUBUNTU, with WinXP/Win95/Linux tri-boot.
[07:15] <Staren> Can I do this? How big should the linux partition be?
[07:15] <xwolf-> !gcc
[07:15] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:15] <xwolf-> !nemacs
[07:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nemacs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:15] <xwolf-> !emacs
[07:15] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[07:15] <BombTron> Staren: partition can be as big as you want it, get a usb external hard drive housing
[07:15] <griffjon> Staren: I run kubuntu on a laptop with 6gb total HDD, it runs in ~4 of that for the lower end of your range
[07:16] <BombTron> Staren: then get a normal size to mini hard drive adaptor
[07:16] <elias_> why is it that I can get an IP via DHCP when plugged in via ethernet but not via WLAN with neither VMWARE player nor server? I configured both as bridged straight through.
[07:16] <BombTron> create partitions on the big one and then start moving stuff over
[07:16] <griffjon> Win95 takes up very little space, too (remember, it once shipped on~25  floppies)
[07:16] <BombTron> easier with a desktop
[07:16] <Staren> Err, all of the HDDs involved are laptop drives.
[07:16] <nagyv> hello! I would like to try out the SeconLife alpha client, it starts without any problems, but the majority of the fonts is unreadable. (p.ex: the login prompt)
[07:17] <BombTron> yea so you'll want a usb hard drive external housing
[07:17] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  odd.. it works for me.
[07:17] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  you just installed it today?
[07:17] <nagyv> Dr_willis: yes
[07:17] <BombTron> Staren: I would put the big one in the laptop first
[07:17] <BombTron> s
[07:18] <Staren> So is copying over the FAT32 partition as is, assigning some minimum amount of space to the linux partition, and then giving the rest to NTFS for WinXP (probably my primary OS at this point -- I want to try linux extensively before moving over)
[07:18] <BombTron> Staren:  then instal windows on it
[07:18] <Dr_willis> there may be a new version that has an issue. OR it may be some extra fonts need to be installed.
[07:18] <nagyv> actually, I just selected my login name, and then I could see it
[07:18] <Croupier> hey im having a little problem changing the way the dates are shown in the imendio planner
[07:18] <Croupier> they use the weeks but i want the day like mon,tues,
[07:18] <Croupier> or the date
[07:18] <BombTron> Staren: 10 or 15 gigs for linux should be pleanty
[07:18] <Staren> the best solution here?
[07:18] <Dr_willis> Staren,  theres tools that let XP read/write to ext2/3 partitions. so no need for a fat32 'data exchange' partition.
[07:18] <Staren> Ok.
[07:18] <Croupier> any ideas what planner would do that
[07:18] <nagyv> Dr_willis: there is a symlink for kochi-mincho which I uninstalled before, but now it is installed again
[07:18] <Staren> FAT32 is for Win95.
[07:18] <Staren> Though I didn't know XP could use ext3. Hmmmmmmm.
[07:19] <Dr_willis> run win95 in a vmware session. :P is an easy way to have windows and linux both. heh.
[07:19] <gtwy> 95?
[07:19] <Dr_willis> google for ext2 ifs windows xp
[07:19] <gtwy> is it even worth it?
[07:19] <BombTron> Staren: like the other guy said there is stuff on source forge for accesing ext3 from xp
[07:19] <gtwy> wtf even runs on 95?
[07:19] <Dr_willis> I use win95 in vmware for a few apps.
[07:19] <Staren> Well, since I already have it, and I have plenty of space, why not?
[07:19] <Dr_willis> PSPvideo9 works. :)
[07:19] <Staren> Win95 will run old dos games with much less hassle than winxp does. I'll probably barely ever use it, but nice to have.
[07:19] <nagyv> Dr_willis: it is really weird, I just tried to log in using version <IP_ADDRESS>, and it sais that there is a newer version. Impossible!
[07:20] <gtwy> Staren: wolf3d, doom
[07:20] <gtwy> ?
[07:20] <Staren> Thanks for the advice guys!
[07:20] <BombTron> Staren: install big main drive first then install windows then linux on the smaller partition then start copying stuff over
[07:20] <XVampireX_> Dr_willis: You use the partition editor? I want to know why people make a reiserfs partition anymore
[07:20] <XVampireX_> Dr_willis: Sorry, I'm asking you as I remember I talked to you a whle ago :) I need someone who's not a newbie
[07:20] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  i get a message <IP_ADDRESS> is aviliable.
[07:20] <Staren> Well, Doom's been ported. I have an old NES emulator that has all my old savegames... and what if I want to play Wing Commander or something?
[07:21] <Dr_willis> XVampireX_,  ive never used reiserfs. :) but its not too hard to use them i guess.
[07:21] <nagyv> is it newer than <IP_ADDRESS>? 1.12<1.13 isn't it?
[07:21] <XVampireX> Hmm
[07:21] <Dr_willis> !find nes
[07:21] <ubotu> Found: fortunes-min, gnome-icon-theme-gartoon, gtk2-engines, gtk2-engines-gtk-qt, gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks (and 123 others)
[07:21] <XVampireX> Anyone more knowledgeable?
[07:21] <XVampireX> !reiserfs
[07:21] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[07:21] <Dr_willis> Staren|Idle,  theres plenty of emulators out.
[07:21] <xwolf-> !wine
[07:21] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:22] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  considerng  the 2nd live prog for linux is alpha. :) gotta expect some issues.
[07:22] <Dr_willis> http://forums.secondlife.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=263
[07:23] <griffjon> side question: if iwconfig eth0 txpower off doesn't turn off a wireless card, how can you "unmount
[07:23] <griffjon> "
[07:23] <griffjon> ?
[07:23] <Dr_willis> You dont mount network cards. :)
[07:23] <zzz_> :)
[07:23] <Dr_willis> remove the module perhaps.
[07:23] <Bubba_Gump> i'm looking for a linux statistics program, any ideas ?
[07:23] <Dr_willis> Bubba_Gump,  freshmeat.net
[07:23] <griffjon> check pspp
[07:24] <griffjon> Bubba: pspp is a command-line OSS version of spss.  It's a bit.... rough around the edges
[07:24] <XVampireX> Bubba_Gump: Spreadsheet program?
[07:25] <XVampireX> Bubba_Gump: What kind of statistics?
[07:25] <Zarephath> How in the heck do I tell freenode server to list available channels?
[07:25] <Bubba_Gump> Standard deviation, z-scores, means this sorta thing
[07:25] <Bubba_Gump> like spss
[07:25] <Dr_willis> Zarephath,  that would be a irc client setting I think.
[07:26] <Dr_willis>  the /list command is often full of features
[07:26] <Dr_willis> get ready for a huge list.
[07:26] <XVampireX> Oh
[07:26] <XVampireX> Don't know then
[07:26] <fibonacci> In SuSE there is Yast, in kubuntu there is ? Help please.
[07:27] <Emess> System Settings
[07:27] <Emess> or did you mean for package management?
[07:27] <Guardian> hi what should i install to get flash 9 playing ?
[07:28] <fibonacci> System Settings, from what package ?
[07:28] <Zarephath> Dr_Willis: Well Kubuntu PPC I have not menu lists at the top?
[07:28] <Emess> Guardian: make sure you have universe and multiverse, then package is called flashplayer9
[07:28] <Guardian> ok
[07:28] <Dr_willis> Zarephath,  Huh?
[07:28] <Bubba_Gump> !flash9
[07:28] <ubotu> You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/backports/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[07:28] <Dr_willis> fibonacci,  ubuntus use the apt-get system of packjage management
[07:28] <Dr_willis> !apt
[07:28] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:29] <Zarephath> Yeah X-chat isn't displaying the drop down menu choices at the top of the window..
[07:29] <Guardian> emess: i don't have such a flashplayer9 package, universe and multiverse are enabled
[07:29] <BluesKaj> mencoder is missing a dependency or is being blocked , i'm not sure :  E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libdivxdecore0_1%3a5.0.1-1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libdivxdecore.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libdivxdecore0-binary
[07:29] <fibonacci> Dr_willis: Yeah, I got that down. But where can I configure Services at Run Levels , and so on...
[07:30] <Emess> Guardian: might not be on them yet, try looking in adept for flashplayer and see what it has, otherwise go to macromedia's flash site and it should have info
[07:30] <Dr_willis> Theres a icon in the settings/cntrollcenter i see for the SysV run level stuff
[07:31] <BluesKaj> tried to remove the offending file but it can't be found E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libdivxdecore0_1%3a5.0.1-1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libdivxdecore.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libdivxdecore0-binary
[07:31] <Dr_willis> fibonacci,  add the  'control center' applet to your taskbar. makes finding the settings menu/icons easier.
[07:31] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  remind me - WHY is second life 'popular' ?
[07:32] <nagyv> Dr_willis: I don't know it yet :)
[07:32] <Bubba_Gump> Dr_willis: how come we have system settings and kcontrol ?
[07:32] <fibonacci> Dr_willis: Well that's on a session level is it not? I want to modify services at all run levels...
[07:32] <zzz_> BluesKaj, how about trying to remove the offending package? (libdivxdecore0-binary)
[07:32] <Staren> Hmm, this NTFS-3G thing means that Linux can use NTFS just fine?
[07:32] <Hawkwind> Absolutely not
[07:32] <BluesKaj> zzz_, ya think ?
[07:32] <Hawkwind> Linux can *not* write to NTFS
[07:32] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  i think its one of those 'sales men selling stuff to other salesmen' sort of gimmic.. I dont see much to actually 'do' in the game.
[07:32] <Hawkwind> Staren: If you attempt it, chances are you will lose your data.  It's not something we support here at all
[07:32] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[07:32] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:32] <nagyv> Dr_willis: when you are studying away 2000kms away from your family and friends, then secondlife seems to be a good amusement for a saturday night :)
[07:33] <Staren> Dr. willis - It's like IRC with graphics, and you can have stuff. Sort of a fusion of chatting and MMORPGs.
[07:33] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  i can find other things to do... :)
[07:33] <Staren> Though "Graphical MUCK" is a description I prefer.
[07:33] <Dr_willis> Staren,  it just seems to be one Huge Shopping Mall/Gambling Casino/S&M parlor to me.
[07:33] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:33] <Staren> Correct. There is also a lot of chat, but the true gems are rare and far between.
[07:34] <Staren> Check it out next time someone holds a game creation contest.
[07:34] <Dr_willis> here i am dancing on a 'pole' dressed up as little red riding hood... theres got to be some laws getting broke there!
[07:34] <Dr_willis> Staren,  i read about the NOAA weather 'building' but cant find it.. saw the DELL computer store on there..
[07:34] <dmhouse> Hi guys. I'm trying to work with my Sony Ericsson 750i on my Kubuntu Dapper installation. Plugging the device in works, but clicking on the '64M Removable Media' icon that appears on my desktop brings up an 'unexpected error'.
[07:34] <BluesKaj> zzz_, nope din't work :
[07:34] <BluesKaj> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:34] <BluesKaj>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libdivxdecore0_1%3a5.0.1-1_i386.deb
[07:35] <Staren> This is why I don't spend much time there. Still, sometimes people do things genuinely creative or interesting, like that guy who built the schizophrenia building... I still gotta check that out sometime.
[07:35] <dmhouse> dmesg had interesting things to say: http://paste.lisp.org/display/30684
[07:35] <Staren> Do a find for it, willis.
[07:35] <sampo-> Does anybody know, what are default port for streaming video?
[07:35] <wildchild> has anyone any ideas why kaffeine doesn't wanna start by clicking on it ?
[07:35] <Exilant> Anyone knows how to enter the a-ring(/) in kubuntu 6.10 without it on the keyboard? Compose-a-a or compose-a-* doesn't work
[07:35] <dmhouse> Specifically the line 'Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods'. Is this likely to be the cause of the problem? How do I do what it says?
[07:35] <wildchild> in terminal:
[07:35] <wildchild> q@umbrella:~$ kaffeine
[07:35] <wildchild> q@umbrella:~$
[07:35] <Exilant> wildchild: perhaps its still running
[07:36] <zzz_> BluezKaj, try to install libdivxcore0-binary again and then try uninstall it.
[07:36] <wildchild> IExilant how?
[07:36] <Exilant> kill them all "killall kaffeine"
[07:36] <Staren> Alas, my laptop is now my main computer and does not run SL, so I can't spend much time searching for cool things in SL.
[07:36] <Exilant> works here sometimes
[07:36] <wildchild> Exilant: wow
[07:36] <wildchild> Exilant: how did u know it's still running
[07:36] <wildchild> I mean..
[07:36] <wildchild> I almoust start computer..
[07:37] <Exilant> if it ran before and crashed...had that sometimes
[07:37] <Bubba_Gump> second life seems to be a big distraction
[07:37] <wildchild> k
[07:37] <sampo-> Exilant: I got same proglem and I cann't kill one kaffeine process, even if I change to root
[07:38] <Exilant> sampo-: those unkillable processes are weird
[07:38] <Staren> So what about this NTFS-3G thing?
[07:39] <Dr_willis> Staren,  i hear it works.. but im not brave enough to try it.
[07:39] <Dr_willis> Staren,  i just let XP read/write to the ext2 partitions
[07:39] <Staren> Hmmmm.
[07:39] <Dr_willis> i got a spare ext2 drive i let be used as my 'shared' data drive
[07:40] <newbie> hi
[07:40] <Staren> Well, are there any advantages of NTFS over ext2?
[07:40] <newbie> i have a problem to install kubuntu using scsi cd-rom drives
[07:41] <newbie> since the controller seems to be non-capable of booting from the cd-rom
[07:41] <Staren> Max volume size is irrelevant in this case since it's a 100GB drive.
[07:41] <newbie> so i decided to download an ubuntu-boot disk
[07:41] <newbie> however the boot menu doesn't show up the scsi devices
[07:41] <Emess> whats the apt-get command to downgrade a package?
[07:42] <newbie> anyone who has an idea how to get things working?
[07:42] <nagyv> newbie: click on them, could you be a bit more precise, please
[07:42] <apokryphos> Emess: remove the new one, then install the old one
[07:43] <newbie> nagyv: on what menu point should i click
[07:43] <Dr_willis> Staren,  none that i know of.  depends on what you are wanting to do i guess.
[07:43] <ubuntu> bye
[07:43] <Dr_willis> !apt
[07:43] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:44] <nagyv> newbie: what would you like to do?
[07:44] <nagyv> Dr_willis: I gave up with the seconlife client (after a reboot)
[07:44] <newbie> nagyv: i want to install kubuntu or ubuntu
[07:45] <nagyv> newbie: do you have already the cd/dvd
[07:45] <nagyv> ?
[07:45] <Bubba_Gump> which is better - gnome or kde ?
[07:45] <nagyv> Bubba_Gump: you are in the kde channel :)
[07:45] <RadiantFire> of course kde, silly!
[07:45] <RadiantFire> ;-)
[07:45] <Staren> Well, are there advantages of ext2/3 over NTFS?
[07:45] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[07:45] <newbie> nagyv: i have ubuntu and kubuntu cds . but the scsi devices don't boot
[07:46] <nagyv> newbie: what you mean by "the scsi devices don't boot"?
[07:46] <newbie> i have 2 cd burners and one cd rom in my computer, all of them scsi-based
[07:47] <newbie> nagyv: the scsi controller recognizes them but i can't get the cd rom booted
[07:47] <nagyv> newbie: aha, probably you should set up the booting sequence in the bios
[07:47] <BluesKaj> zzz_,, nope ..i'm going around ina vicious circle bwtween these 2 libs  ,libdivxencore0_1%3a5.0.1-1_i386.deb ..and libdivxdecore.so.0.0.0...one can't be used cuz it tries to over write the other yet neithe r can ve removed
[07:48] <newbie> nagyv: i already tried several comfigurations in the bios but nothing works
[07:48] <BluesKaj> neither can be  removed
[07:48] <Narada> how do you disable a kernel module ?
[07:48] <Narada> like agpgart
[07:48] <defrysk> Narada, blacklist it ?
[07:48] <zzz_> Try --force ...
[07:49] <newbie> nagyv: if i boot from a boot disk, it only recognizes the floppy and hard disk drives
[07:49] <nagyv> newbie: there are two possibilities: 1. the cd you wrote is not bootable (there was a problem whan you burned it), 2. your computer is set up to boot from the hard disk
[07:49] <Narada> defrysk: how
[07:49] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  i got it working.. and to be honest... its just... dull..
[07:49] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  ive had more fun in irc chat rooms.
[07:49] <defrysk> add it to the blacklist file
[07:49] <nagyv> newbie: you should boot from the cdrom somehow
[07:50] <nagyv> Dr_willis: do you know a good joke, I am a bit bored :)
[07:50] <newbie> nagyv: how?
[07:50] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  imbored.com
[07:50] <Dr_willis> :P
[07:50] <BluesKaj> H enedds to set his boot sequence to cdrom in the bios
[07:50] <Bubba_Gump> nagyv: read a book :)
[07:50] <Dr_willis> I knwo a good game demo for ya.. its a comercial game but the demo has about 40 levels.
[07:50] <defrysk> Narada, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[07:50] <Narada> defrysk: where is that
[07:50] <nagyv> newbie: do you have any other boot cds around? just to check wheather it's your bios setting or the cd
[07:51] <Narada> defrysk: k
[07:51] <newbie> newbie: i will try suse linux
[07:51] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  http://www.grubbygames.com/fizzball/
[07:51] <voicu> why is ls `yes` bad? found it on bash, seems to take a lot of memory...
[07:51] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  after playing it for an hr or 2.. tempted to buy it. :)
[07:52] <voicu> maybe an offtopic channel, huh?
[07:52] <nagyv> newbie: do you have it, or will just download it?
[07:52] <BluesKaj> newbie, do you know how to access your system BIOS ?
[07:52] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  go to #debian and ask them why Ubuntu is better.. :) that will get some interesting responses.
[07:53] <nagyv> Dr_willis: :)
[07:53] <newbie> blueskaj: yes, i use computers since 15 years
[07:53] <mimosh> hi to all
[07:53] <Dr_willis> I got comptuers that are 15+ years old.
[07:54] <BluesKaj> well using a nick like newbie isn't exactly the right one if you don't want dumb questions then
[07:54] <defrysk> Narada, to stop the module now use sudo modprobe -r <module>
[07:54] <newbie> blueskaj: i'm only a newbie in kubuntu
[07:55] <mimosh> Can I ask you a question
[07:55] <Narada> defrysk: k
[07:55] <mimosh> about starting services in kubuntu
[07:55] <defrysk> Narada, not sure if kernel supports it tho
[07:55] <defrysk> but should work fine
[07:55] <intelikey> i just found out that i was kin to my mother...
[07:56] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  thats legal in some states.
[07:56] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:56] <intelikey> oh.  i mean   good morning
[07:56] <intelikey> :)
[07:56] <mimosh> I have installed name server on my Kubuntu box but I don't know how to start it automaticly on startup
[07:56] <mimosh> anyone
[07:57] <Dr_willis> system admin -> runlevel editor   perhaps.
[07:57] <Dr_willis> if it installed.. i though it should start up automaticially.
[07:57] <Dr_willis> but ive never messed with running my own nameserver. so it may differ
[07:57] <intelikey> or hos do you start it manually      add that to /etc/rc.local     even
[07:58] <thunder_storm> hi everywhere
[07:58] <intelikey> how ^
[07:58] <mimosh> I added manually to rc.local but I want it to start automaticly
[07:58] <thunder_storm> i use kubuntu 6.10
[07:59] <thunder_storm> and have optimized my font-look with help of the german wiki
[07:59] <thunder_storm> the fonts looks good - but not in OpenOffice
[07:59] <thunder_storm> i have made a screenshot - can you help me?
[07:59] <intelikey> Dr_willis are you kidding... *buntu is moving away from users actually doing any admin stuff....
[07:59] <Bubba_Gump> thunder_storm: have your fonts one with anti-aliasing ?
[08:00] <thunder_storm> please look here: http://www.braier.net/1/screenshot1.png
[08:00] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  so its nit just admin icons in there.. all the setting icons are in there.
[08:00] <thunder_storm> i cannot find an solution for that
[08:00] <sandra_> hi
[08:00] <jorik> how can i make a directory so that everyone can put files in em ?
[08:00] <Dr_willis> makes it much easier to find the stuff.. but egads.. it uses 'ghasp' the old control-center! :)
[08:01] <Dr_willis> jorik,  everyone as in everyone on the local machine?or everyone on the network
[08:01] <jorik> Dr_willis: i got a portable HD, it has ext2 on it, i can't write to it
[08:01] <thunder_storm> Bubba_Gump: can you understand my problem?
[08:02] <Dr_willis> jorik,  mount it.. make a dir on it.. chown THAT dir to be owned by the user/users
[08:02] <intelikey> jorik sudo chmod 777 /dir
[08:02] <Dr_willis> thats how i do it.. i dont chown the mount point. :)
[08:02] <intelikey> jorik or if that's M$ format   mount it with umask=000
[08:02] <Bubba_Gump> thunder_storm: yes
[08:02] <Bubba_Gump> thunder_storm: arial is a lousy font :)
[08:02] <sandra_> I have got the prob that I can't use adept in write mode as some app seems to be using the packaging system database. This occours right after reboot and using ps aux | grep apt* I only get the apt indexer listed
[08:03] <sandra_> any ideas how to solve this?
[08:03] <Bubba_Gump> thunder_storm: try deja vu sans
[08:03] <jorik> thanks :o)
[08:03] <thunder_storm> Bubba_Gump: ah, its only a font-problem? why?
[08:10] <zzz_> Does anyone see error messages similar to: "bash: /dev/null: Permission denied" ?
[08:11] <zzz_> I have to use "chmod 777 /dev/null" to solve this problem.
[08:11] <intelikey> just when i thught i had major char/block addressing figured out i find that there are 1432 exceptions to the 5 rules.....    hmmmm
[08:11] <FFForever> what dose kubuntu come with?, grub or lilo?
[08:11] <zzz_> GRUB of course...
[08:11] <intelikey> zzz_ i have
[08:12] <FFForever> and how do i change the splash screen?, in the grub conf?
[08:12] <intelikey> FFForever it comes with both but installs grub by default
[08:12] <zzz_> intelikey, Do you have any information regarding the cause of that?
[08:13] <intelikey> zzz_ heh yeah the perms are set incorrectly on /dev/null  lol   no all joking aside.   i think it's in the way udev is configured    i just added a line to change the perms in /etc/rc.local and for got about it.
[08:14] <FFForever> so how do i change splash?
[08:14] <intelikey> zzz_ probably in /etc/default
[08:15] <zzz_> The problem is that it usually occurs after package installation/removal.
[08:15] <zzz_> rc.local is run during boot however...
[08:15] <intelikey> yep and will correct it upon each boot
[08:16] <intelikey> FFForever grub wont work for me so i can't answer that.
[08:16] <intelikey> FFForever you can ask in #ubuntu   because that is not kde specific
[08:17] <intelikey> about 3 times as many users in there.
[08:17] <dr0fnax> !xgl
[08:17] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:18] <FFForever> !splash screen
[08:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about splash screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <intelikey> !splash
[08:18] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[08:18] <heinkel_111> FFForever: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30341
[08:19] <heinkel_111> intelikey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30341
[08:19] <intelikey> !i
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <Dheeraj_k> hi i am not able to play mp3 on kubuntu. i have installed  all the codecs ugly mad win32 etc but still no luck
[08:21] <intelikey> !mp3
[08:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:21] <Dheeraj_k> wats the sollution?
[08:22] <Staren> !isthereanythingyoucan'tanswer?
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about isthereanythingyoucan'tanswer? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <apokryphos> Dheeraj_k: but did you install the ones mentioned there?
[08:22] <apokryphos> Dheeraj_k: check that first link
[08:22] <DralaFi> Hi. I decided to upgrade the kernel, and also got rid of the initrd. I copied the udev, hal and dbus scripts from initrd and I do believe that they are all running, but now I don't get the Windows-XP-like popup window in KDE when I plug in USB storage devices.
[08:22] <DralaFi> Can anyone help?
[08:23] <Dheeraj_k> yes every thing including xine
[08:23] <Dheeraj_k> all the player except amarok is able to run mp3
[08:24] <apokryphos> Dheeraj_k: what's the error you get?
[08:24] <apokryphos> intelikey: but then you'd just have to reinstall it :P
[08:25] <intelikey> apokryphos never have yet
[08:25] <apokryphos> what do you prefer?
[08:25] <intelikey> vlc
[08:25] <apokryphos> for music? Can't imagine it providing the best experience
[08:25] <fibonacci> amaroK is really, really nice, get the new version 1.4.4
[08:26] <intelikey> no for music  sox  for vidio vlc
[08:26] <apokryphos> ubotu: info sox
[08:26] <ubotu> sox: A universal sound sample translator. In component universe, is optional. Version 12.17.9-1 (edgy), package size 285 kB, installed size 656 kB
[08:26] <intelikey> i don't like amarok
[08:26] <apokryphos> why?
[08:27] <intelikey> i don't know.  it reminds me of windows media player maybe... not sure
[08:27] <apokryphos> :/
[08:27] <intelikey> it's arbitrary.   i don't need a reason.
[08:27] <fibonacci> intelikey: Not likely, Windows Media Player reminds you of amaroK.
[08:27] <Dheeraj_k> it is not giving any error
[08:28] <apokryphos> what happens then
[08:28] <Dheeraj_k> that is the main problem
[08:28] <apokryphos> what happens then
[08:29] <Dheeraj_k> best feature of amarok is it save the play list in mysql satabase
[08:29] <intelikey> fibonacci yea i think it did.   it had that stupid cpu/ram eating psycadelik vidio thingy going on....  that reminds me of something in windows....  :)
[08:29] <arriesp> how can i install a scaner?
[08:29] <parker`> Okay, ever since I did a flash install (via Firefox installer) firefox just crashes everytime I try to load a page. This is very frustrating. :\
[08:29] <fibonacci> If you had said iTunes, perhaps, but imho, nothing like WMP
[08:30] <intelikey> also the fact that it expects net access,  that's a no go imo.
[08:31] <Dheeraj_k> guys which player do u like most for playing songs?
[08:31] <ubuntu> hi/salut
[08:31] <ubuntu> uh
[08:31] <fibonacci> amaroK
[08:31] <ubuntu> /nick Dj-Serpen
[08:31] <apokryphos> Dheeraj_k: amarok is the most popular and default on kubuntu
[08:31] <intelikey> sox Dheeraj_k but you won't like it.
[08:31] <apokryphos> ubuntu: no space before /nick
[08:31] <ubuntu> okay
[08:31] <Dj-Serpen> lol
[08:32] <Dj-Serpen>  i have typed //nick :S
[08:32] <apokryphos> hi
[08:32] <apokryphos> =)
[08:32] <Dj-Serpen> it's / :P
[08:32] <apokryphos> ubotu: fr
[08:32] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:32] <Dj-Serpen> yay
[08:32] <dr0fnax> !vim
[08:32] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[08:33] <Dheeraj_k> why amarok does not support mp3? by default?
[08:33] <fibonacci> legal reasons.
[08:33] <bLaZeD> !uuid
[08:33] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[08:34] <Dheeraj_k> wat about xmms?
[08:34] <intelikey> the thing i like about sox is the fact that it doesn't do anything "fancy" just play's you sound files.   being a bash-scripter it likes me to just tell it what to play, and it does it.  simple apps for simple minds i guess.
[08:34] <apokryphos> Dheeraj_k: xmms sucks
[08:34] <DralaFi> xmms rocks
[08:34] <intelikey> xmms is beter than amarok  :)
[08:34] <apokryphos> yuck
[08:35] <intelikey> but i don't like xmms either.
[08:35] <fibonacci> intelikey: I think you got it in for amaroK :)
[08:35] <apokryphos> what is it? The beautiful x-menus, the complete lack of configuration, or ugliness that makes it better
[08:35] <Dheeraj_k>  apokryphos: why?
[08:35] <DralaFi> amarok has an annoying delay between songs and isn't as fast as xmms when holding down 'b'
[08:35] <intelikey> fibonacci just like some in here have a special afenity for it. :)
[08:35] <intelikey> <--anti-
[08:36] <fibonacci> <-- PRO :) (:
[08:36] <apokryphos> but juk is also good
[08:36] <DralaFi> can someone please explain to me what this local-top, local-bottom scripts are for in the initrd?
[08:36] <arriesp> how can i install an scaner?
[08:36] <apokryphos> ubotu: scanner
[08:36] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[08:36] <DralaFi> if you want a music manager, madman is awesome
[08:37] <apokryphos> DralaFi: #ubuntu might be better for your question
[08:37] <DralaFi> thanks apokryphos
[08:39] <Dheeraj_k> i like the interface of xmms  with almond skin
[08:40] <intelikey> oh and that's another thing i don't like.  if the interface is so ugly you need to "skin" it   why not just fix the interface....
[08:41] <intelikey> ok i'm finished adding colour to the channel....
[08:42] <Dheeraj_k> does any 1 know why interface of realplayer is so ugly in linux?
[08:43] <Dheeraj_k> when i installed realplayer first time i was expecting windows type interface in its linux version
[08:44] <Dheeraj_k> but when i run it first time i got the 1000 walt shock
[08:44] <intelikey> ERROR!  dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `postfix' in statoverride file  <--- postfix is not installed why should there be a postfix user account ?
[08:47] <intelikey> Dheeraj_k sound promicing. i may have to look at realplayer
[08:47] <fibonacci> :}
[08:49] <intelikey> yeah.  i do.   hmmmmm
[08:51] <Dheeraj_k> don't use it it is worst player ever made for linux
[08:51] <logicalbomb> what player is that?
[08:51] <intelikey> realplayer ?
[08:51] <logicalbomb> I thought realplayer was just the worse player ever made period
[08:52] <intelikey> :)
[08:52] <intelikey> that settels it.
[08:52] <logicalbomb> i've had success with Xine for media
[08:52] <logicalbomb> and Amarok for audio
[08:52] <Dheeraj_k> did u heard about latest bug in firefox? which allow hacker to obtaing login id password from password manager
[08:53] <intelikey> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:53] <intelikey>   realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable
[08:53] <intelikey> E: Broken packages <--- guess the revisit is off
[08:53] <logicalbomb> I don't worry about the exploits I go ahead and post my IP address and passwords in my personal blogs
[08:54] <intelikey> my user accounts don't have passwords....
[08:54] <intelikey> :p
[08:54] <logicalbomb> I run in root while trying out shell commands I get over IRC >.>
[08:55] <Dheeraj_k> cool! :D
[08:55] <intelikey> first lier aint ever got a chance.....
[08:55] <logicalbomb> lol
[08:55] <intelikey> logicalbomb /whois intelikey  will prove that....
[08:55] <intelikey> :)
[08:55] <logicalbomb> I am new to Kubuntu but it's the most comfortable system i've ever used
[08:56] <intelikey> just like an old shue
[08:56] <nagyv> Dr_willis: Fizzball is really nice, but I could not really enjoy it :(
[08:56] <logicalbomb> never got into IRC though, I thought i'd join the community after getting linux configured and working correctly
[08:57] <logicalbomb> However, I can't get my p2p software working even though I installed the java packages
[08:57] <logicalbomb> it seems to look like it's going to start and then just decide it never wants to
[08:58] <intelikey> !p2p
[08:58] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[08:58] <Dheeraj_k> Chk this out huge list of software for ubuntu and family http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31989
[08:58] <logicalbomb> that and I have Nvidia Drivers installed but when I switch the Xorg.conf from driver = nv to Nvidia it fails
[08:58] <logicalbomb> turn it back and it works out
[08:58] <intelikey> that wiki page "might" help ^
[08:58] <logicalbomb> I have frostwire and Limewire
[08:58] <logicalbomb> and Ktorrent
[08:58] <logicalbomb> but the wire's don't work
[08:59] <intelikey> did you check the page for info on that ?
[08:59] <cloakable> Anyone here good with Kommander?
[08:59] <intelikey> well its time for me to go.
[09:00] <logicalbomb> hmmm
[09:00] <logicalbomb> No yield for helpful info
[09:01] <Dheeraj_k> yday i compiled and installed latest version of linux kernel and now kubuntu is running faster :)
[09:02] <fibonacci> how do i register my nick in irc ?
[09:02] <logicalbomb> I need to learn how to do that... I had to work so hard just to install the graphix driver
[09:02] <logicalbomb> switching from windows is no easy task, other then the relief of having the system run without a BSOD in sight
[09:02] <logicalbomb> !register
[09:02] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:03] <helpmeplease> ok, I am still having trouble getting kubuntu-desktop to install
[09:04] <Amority> Hello everyone :D
[09:04] <Dheeraj_k> helpmeplease: wats the problem?
[09:05] <helpmeplease> well
[09:05] <helpmeplease> lol, I thought I got it figured out last night
[09:05] <helpmeplease> but when I went to actually install it today, it won't
[09:05] <helpmeplease> to be honest, I guess I'm not completely sure what I'm doing
[09:06] <nagyv> Dosemu is asking for my keyboard map. What does dis mean?
[09:06] <Amority> the layout of the keys on your keyboard
[09:06] <logicalbomb> qwerty or dvorak
[09:06] <logicalbomb> etc
[09:07] <helpmeplease> I get the following error when trying to install kubuntu-desktop through Synaptic:
[09:07] <logicalbomb> how do I launch my wine GUI
[09:07] <nagyv> Amority: I know this, but how should I pass it to dosemu?
[09:07] <helpmeplease> Kubuntu-desktop:
[09:07] <Amority> nagyv : im sorry I never changed my keymap so I dont know :(
[09:08] <helpmeplease> Depnds: amarok but it is not going to be installed
[09:08] <helpmeplease> Depends: kopete but it is not going to be installed
[09:08] <logicalbomb> amarok and kopete usually come pre-installed on Kubuntu
[09:08] <logicalbomb> it did on my version
[09:09] <nagyv> Is here anyone using dosemu? How should I set the $_layout_option?
[09:09] <Amority> mine too
[09:09] <helpmeplease> well
[09:09] <helpmeplease> ok, here is my situation
[09:09] <helpmeplease> I installed Ubuntu Dapper Drake off of my CD
[09:09] <helpmeplease> I wanted to activate the KDE enviroment
[09:09] <logicalbomb> I am using Kubuntu
[09:09] <helpmeplease> which wouldn't work at first for some reason
[09:10] <logicalbomb> haven't tried dapper drake
[09:10] <nagyv> helpmeplease: are the mentioned program available on the ubuntu CD?
[09:10] <helpmeplease> I was then told to remove the # symbol from the source.list and update all the files
[09:10] <helpmeplease> no, they weren't for some reason
[09:10] <logicalbomb> I know it was really hard setting up my graphics drivers, any time I tried to do the standard apt-get install of the glx driver for nvidia it screwed every thing up
[09:10] <helpmeplease> but updating was supposed to have downloaded those files
[09:10] <nagyv> helpmeplease: are they there now?
[09:10] <helpmeplease> and those specific two are listed on the Synaptic package list
[09:10] <Amority> logicalbomb, me too but I use ati ^-^
[09:10] <helpmeplease> lol
[09:11] <helpmeplease> so I don't know why it won't work
[09:11] <logicalbomb> you're a braver man then I am for configuring an ATi in linux
[09:11] <logicalbomb> my X1900 XTX on my personal PC told me to shove it
[09:11] <helpmeplease> unless those two are relying on another package that isn't there, in some odd and twisted chain reaction
[09:11] <logicalbomb> I didn't even try to venture into getting the crossfired enabled
[09:11] <logicalbomb> thus my laptop remains loyal to linux and my desktop a traitor loaded with microsuck
[09:12] <logicalbomb> crossfire*
[09:12] <nagyv> helpmeplease: try 'apt-get install kubuntu desktop'  from the command line, it will ask wheather you would like to install the dependencies or will say that they are not available
[09:12] <robotgeek> nagyv: just say yes
[09:13] <helpmeplease> you forgot the sudp part
[09:13] <helpmeplease> :P
[09:13] <helpmeplease> *sudo
[09:13] <nagyv> robotgeek: I get no questions :(
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago> have you considered doing a -f install?
[09:13] <logicalbomb> he assumed you'de already know something so trivial help :)
[09:14] <logicalbomb> I want to try to configure something similar to proto-wall in my linux system
[09:15] <Amority> dang cross fire in linux... dangerous :P
[09:15] <logicalbomb> didn't even attempt it
[09:15] <logicalbomb> kept that in winblows
[09:15] <Amority> I dont think i would either
[09:16] <helpmeplease> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33964/
[09:17] <logicalbomb> I couldn't even get my card to work in the first place
[09:17] <helpmeplease> so same problem as the Synaptic installer
[09:17] <logicalbomb> as soon as I ventured past vesa I got a big black screen of nothingness
[09:19] <helpmeplease> any ideas?
[09:19] <robotgeek> helpmeplease: dapper/edgy?
[09:20] <helpmeplease> dapper
[09:20] <robotgeek> helpmeplease: do you have dapper-updates enabled?
[09:21] <helpmeplease> I believe so....I just got updates about 20 minutes ago
[09:21] <helpmeplease> ^_^
[09:25] <|Sputnik|> yooo
[09:26] <helpmeplease> robotgeek: still there?
[09:26] <deian> i came to Kubuntu from openSuse, and i'm really impressed!!
[09:26] <robotgeek> helpmeplease: yes. no i mean it is a separate repository
[09:27] <helpmeplease> ???
[09:27] <robotgeek> helpmeplease: i will paste my sources.list
[09:28] <helpmeplease> ok
[09:29] <robotgeek> helpmeplease: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/257821
[09:30] <helpmeplease> ok
[09:31] <helpmeplease> and you want me to do what?
[09:31] <helpmeplease> copy the thing over my current list?
[09:31] <robotgeek> helpmeplease: yes, after backing your old one up
[09:32] <helpmeplease> ok
[09:32] <helpmeplease> just a sec then
[09:32] <logicalbomb> what do you substitute kwrite or Kate in kubuntu with to get it to launch in terminal
[09:33] <deian> sudo -i?
[09:34] <logicalbomb> really?
[09:34] <logicalbomb> i didn't know that
[09:34] <deian> i'm not sure
[09:34] <logicalbomb> I kept seeing gedit being used but I was under the impression that was for gnome only
[09:34] <deian> yes i think it is
[09:35] <deian> hence the G in the title
[09:35] <logicalbomb> so when I substituted gedit for kate or kwrite when my graphics driver was out it told me it couldn't load X
[09:35] <deian> kate is for KDE
[09:35] <logicalbomb> I know i'm running KDE
[09:35] <deian> oh kate is graphical only
[09:35] <logicalbomb> hence Kubuntu
[09:35] <logicalbomb> so is Kwrite
[09:35] <deian> yes
[09:35] <deian> try nano
[09:35] <logicalbomb> I don't know if I have a none GUI based editor
[09:35] <deian> nano is simple
[09:36] <deian> yeah u do,
[09:36] <deian> nano is included in standard installation
[09:36] <logicalbomb> nice
[09:36] <logicalbomb> and ty
[09:36] <deian> no problems
[09:36] <logicalbomb> what about this gnutella stuff?
[09:36] <deian> ctrl-w to save
[09:36] <logicalbomb> can I use that in KDE
[09:36] <logicalbomb> or is that only gnome too, and the reason frostwire and limewire wont work on my sys
[09:37] <deian> i'm not sure
[09:37] <deian> if u installed kubuntu kde and gnome programs should work under kde too
[09:37] <logicalbomb> I only installed KDE
[09:38] <logicalbomb> I don't think I installed gnome
[09:38] <deian> thats still ok
[09:38] <deian> kubuntu will have the files to run gnome programs too
[09:38] <logicalbomb> alien was a sweet program to pick up
[09:38] <logicalbomb> ran the RPM to unload limewire
[09:38] <fibonacci> Ok, giving Kubuntu my first go today, let's see what it's got....
[09:39] <deian> where have u come from fibonacci?
[09:39] <deian> i mean what distro?
[09:39] <fibonacci> SuSE
[09:39] <deian> me too
[09:39] <deian> kubuntu is much better
[09:39] <deian> i've even got beryl running stable on it too
[09:39] <fibonacci> Well I took the Ubuntu + KDE aproach, and so far so good. But we will see.. time will tell.
[09:40] <helpmeplease> robotgeek: ok, I got it all saved....now try that command again?
[09:40] <robotgeek> helpmeplease: yup
[09:41] <fibonacci> deian: If I don't like it, I think I will look further, Fedora perhaps...
[09:41] <helpmeplease> here goes nothing
[09:41] <logicalbomb> I wish linux could run my games
[09:41] <logicalbomb> =\
[09:41] <deian> i felt fedora was horrible
[09:42] <fibonacci> deian: Really, why ?
[09:42] <deian> i asked it to install kde as my desktop
[09:42] <deian> i finish installation and there was gnome
[09:42] <fibonacci> As in Gnome lib's and KDE desktop, or only Gnome ?
[09:42] <deian> gnome as the desktop
[09:43] <deian> maybe kde was also installed
[09:43] <deian> my wireless card didn't work either
[09:43] <ubuntu> Hi
[09:43] <fibonacci> hmm.. odd. Well I'm having trouble deciding what Distro to go with, SuSE got some stuff I like, and so does Kubuntu (but I don't like the whole Gnome feel of it).
[09:44] <deian> no, gnome smells
[09:44] <deian> kubuntu is VERY stable comapred to suse
[09:44] <ubuntu> kubuntu is the best
[09:44] <fibonacci> deian: Jepp, so far I can agree.
[09:44] <deian> the adept packager works much better than Yasts
[09:44] <Dheeraj_k> i hate rpm :p
[09:44] <logicalbomb> i got a free version of SuSe 10 in my LFX magazine
[09:44] <fibonacci> Oh god yes, YaST is a pain in th eas.
[09:44] <logicalbomb> best coaster i've ever owned.
[09:45] <cox377> i need to extract the mpeg from a vcd file, can anyone recommend me some software please?
[09:45] <deian> they fixed it in 10.2 more or less, but Adept is much faster
[09:45] <logicalbomb> mplayer then isntall the xine extension
[09:45] <deian> and i got beryl working smoothly with the 3D world plugin enabled
[09:45] <deian> it looks awesome
[09:46] <fibonacci> nice. How about using Debian ?
[09:46] <deian> debian is more hardcore isn't it
[09:46] <deian> kubuntu is based on debian isn't it
[09:46] <fibonacci> yeah it is. So are they similar ?
[09:46] <Lynoure> deian: less cutesy and more flexible, and will not work out of box that often
[09:47] <deian> i can't answer that really because i've not tried debian
[09:47] <deian> debian is more like gentoo and slackware i think
[09:47] <Lynoure> deian: I'm considering going back to it, I prefer breaking things myself =)
[09:47] <deian> lol
[09:48] <deian> when i feel more comfortable with linux i may go to debian
[09:48] <Grum> i have a question about partition
[09:48] <Grum> *partitions
[09:48] <Lynoure> Grum: ask away?
[09:48] <jpgeerets> hi folks
[09:48] <Grum> Is there a program I can use to find out how much space I'm using in a partition?
[09:48] <jpgeerets> someone tryed install and use vmware 5.5 in edgy?
[09:49] <Grum> I have home on one partition and / on another
[09:49] <jpgeerets> Grum: try using df -k from commandline
[09:49] <Grum> ok thanks
[09:49] <logicalbomb> how do I launch my wine GUI
[09:50] <Grum> Jpgeerets: It worked. . . thanks very much!
[09:50] <robotgeek> Grum: df -kh
[09:50] <Dheeraj_k> i think by typing sudo wine
[09:50] <Admiral_Chicago> Grum, fdisk -h i think
[09:50] <deian> in gui?
[09:51] <logicalbomb> yeah no GUI
[09:51] <logicalbomb> and i can't find the file paths for the installed exe's
[09:51] <jpgeerets> great Grum
[09:52] <deian>  u do: wine "path"
[09:52] <deian> in windows style yea
[09:52] <Chousuke> Dheeraj_k: You don't need sudo for it.
[09:52] <deian> so say i'd wanna run itunes i'd go: bash~: wine "c:\program files\itunes\itunes.exe"
[09:53] <deian> of course itunes wont' work cos it's a pain
[09:54] <logicalbomb> no love
[09:54] <Dheeraj_k> i prefer to run windows application in windows and linux app in linux
[09:55] <logicalbomb> yeah but i want my music so bad
[09:55] <logicalbomb> lol
[09:55] <logicalbomb> I can't get any p2p files working
[09:55] <logicalbomb> even after java installs
[09:55] <deian> and me too
[09:55] <jpgeerets> why wanna use p2p
[09:55] <deian> i have 3200 tunes on itunes stuck on another pc
[09:55] <Dheeraj_k> does windows virus harm wine too?
[09:55] <deian> i doubt it
[09:56] <deian> viruses harm windows files and processes and not the programs so much
[09:56] <logicalbomb> because I want to sample music i'm about to legally purchase?
[09:56] <logicalbomb> thats why I want frostwire or limewire on linux
[09:56] <fdoving> !frostwire | logicalbomb
[09:56] <ubotu> logicalbomb: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:56] <logicalbomb> because I need my traveling tunes to plug into when my kids are being hoolagans in the back seat of the car and not shutting up
[09:57] <xwolf-> sometimes i get "Conversation with su failed"
[09:57] <xwolf-> why is that?
[09:58] <noelvis> anybody there .....
[10:00] <logicalbomb> YES
[10:00] <logicalbomb> fdoving I love you!
[10:01] <xwolf-> !mobile
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <xwolf-> !c650
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c650 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <logicalbomb> !qpit
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qpit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <_adaptr> !xwolf
[10:02] <fdoving> !kphone
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xwolf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <ubotu> kphone: Voice over IP (VoIP) phone application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.2-6 (edgy), package size 406 kB, installed size 1260 kB
[10:02] <fdoving> !kmobile
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <fdoving> !kmobiletools
[10:02] <ubotu> kmobiletools: KDE application for controlling your mobile phone. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 128 kB, installed size 484 kB
[10:02] <Dheeraj_k> wats going on? bot war?
[10:04] <Dheeraj_k> !kpdf
[10:04] <ubotu> kpdf: PDF viewer for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 315 kB, installed size 1004 kB
[10:04] <robotgeek> !msgthebot > fdoving
[10:04] <Dheeraj_k> !apache
[10:04] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[10:04] <fdoving> yeah i know.
[10:05] <Dheeraj_k> !bot
[10:05] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:05] <fdoving> !botsnack
[10:05] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:05] <fdoving> :)
[10:05] <Dheeraj_k> !ubotu
[10:06] <Dheeraj_k> !botcoke
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botcoke - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <Dheeraj_k> !windows
[10:06] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:07] <logicalbomb> frostwire is sticking open
[10:07] <logicalbomb> the gui is going blank
[10:07] <Dheeraj_k> !billgates
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about billgates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <Dheeraj_k> !buntu
[10:08] <logicalbomb> !microsoft
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microsoft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <logicalbomb> !botpet
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botpet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <Dheeraj_k> !redhat
[10:08] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[10:08] <fdoving> !msgthebot
[10:08] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[10:09] <Dheeraj_k> !girl
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about girl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <logicalbomb> !limewire
[10:09] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[10:09] <deian> llol
[10:09] <Dheeraj_k> !=:)
[10:10] <Dheeraj_k> !whoami
[10:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whoami - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <fdoving> Dheeraj_k: it's enought now. please use msg or http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <Dheeraj_k> oh ok
[10:10] <fdoving> thanks.
[10:11] <logicalbomb> frostwire is such a lier
[10:11] <logicalbomb> it is not connecting.
[10:11] <_adaptr> a what ?
[10:12] <logicalbomb> liar
[10:12] <deian> no
[10:12] <DralaFi> DralaFi I'm trying to get kde to pop up a window alerting me that a usb device was found. This works in kubuntu with the initrd, but i'm trying to have an initrd-less system. udev is running. HAL is running, dbus is running. I can't see what's wrong. Can anyone offer some help? Especially on how to diagnose which part is not working.
[10:12] <_adaptr> software is generally incapable of lying
[10:12] <logicalbomb> a lier is when you badly misspell liar?
[10:12] <deian> it takes time to connect
[10:12] <logicalbomb> !smartass
[10:12] <deian> it's gathering sources
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smartass - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <logicalbomb> i'll get angry at in-animate objects and software all I want, and further more i'll assign it human attributes whenever I feel like it
[10:13] <logicalbomb> there for, it lied to me.
[10:14] <deian> has it connected by now?
[10:14] <bill57785> Ok, I'm back (helpmeplease).
[10:14] <bill57785> And Kubuntu is running perfectly. Thank you very much guys.
[10:14] <logicalbomb> no limewire did though
[10:14] <logicalbomb> frostwire didn't want ot
[10:14] <logicalbomb> to*
[10:14] <deian> ohh
[10:16] <logicalbomb> working pretty good now too
[10:16] <logicalbomb> went to sudo nano /usr/bin/limewire
[10:16] <logicalbomb> changed the sh limewire.sh
[10:16] <logicalbomb> to bash limewire.sh
[10:16] <ds_> ll
[10:16] <ds_> Serge
[10:18] <logicalbomb> you know until I started reading linux user and LFX I had no idea how many linux users where in the UK
[10:19] <woodefec> hi
[10:19] <woodefec> how to check the edgy efts md5 checksum?
[10:20] <woodefec> (kubuntu)
[10:20] <woodefec> can't find it nowhere and installation doesnt go properly
[10:20] <Dheeraj_k> ubuntuguide.org
[10:20] <xwolf-> sometimes i get "Conversation with su failed"
[10:21] <xwolf-> why is that?
[10:21] <woodefec> Dheeraj_k : I mean for kubuntu
[10:23] <RaNgO> how to change screen refresh rate on live kubuntu ?
[10:23] <logicalbomb> !samba
[10:23] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:23] <woodefec> !checksum
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about checksum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <Dheeraj_k> !firewall
[10:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[10:23] <woodefec> !md5
[10:23] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[10:24] <Dheeraj_k> this bot has lots of information
[10:25] <Dr_willis> !where is elvis.
[10:25] <Dheeraj_k> aww
[10:25] <bill57785> !girls
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about girls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <_adaptr> how sad
[10:25] <Dheeraj_k> i already tried that
[10:26] <woodefec> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto - too complicated
[10:26] <Dr_willis> it is?
[10:27] <Dr_willis> i use some md5sum program that puts md5sum menu item under windows context menu.
[10:27] <Dr_willis> right click, 'check md5sum'
[10:27] <bill57785> !pregnancy
[10:27] <woodefec> i am not in windows
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pregnancy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <Dr_willis> then look at the md6sum file
[10:27] <bill57785> ok, anyways
[10:27] <Dr_willis> woodefec,  even easier then.. use md5sum command.
[10:28] <_adaptr> !anything
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <woodefec> Dr_willis : ok, but what to compare it to?
[10:28] <xtavaresx> !nothing
[10:28] <ubotu> nothing is Saying "I don't see anything", or "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an error message, say so, and which error it is, etc.  -  Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.
[10:28] <Dr_willis> where you downloaded the iso file - there is a filename.md5 that has the sum in it
[10:29] <woodefec> 1f9baed847eff89b03c754fcaea8070e - thats the sum i got from my file
[10:30] <Lynoure> Does knetworkmanager detect new networks for you people?
[10:30] <woodefec> when i go here: http://ftp.ds.karen.hj.se/pub/os/linux/ubuntu-iso/kubuntu/edgy/ - i get a page, no dir
[10:30] <woodefec> ill try from mc
[10:31] <Dr_willis> http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/edgy/MD5SUMS
[10:31] <BluesKaj> woodefec, works here in firefox
[10:32] <bill57785> !your_dad_but_I_know_a_lot_about_your_mom
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about your_dad_but_I_know_a_lot_about_your_mom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <Dr_willis> 1f9baed847eff89b03c754fcaea8070e  kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[10:32] <Dr_willis> looks good to me
[10:32] <LjL> !botabuse
[10:32] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[10:32] <bill57785> ok, sorry
[10:32] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:32] <woodefec> BluesKaj : got it
[10:32] <ubuntu> hello ppl
[10:33] <woodefec> !windows
[10:33] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:33] <ubuntu> i have a problim can any one solve with me ??
[10:33] <woodefec> thank you all
[10:33] <BluesKaj> woodefec, good
[10:33] <logicalbomb> you know until I started reading linux user and LFX I had no idea how many linux users where in the UK
[10:33] <Dr_willis> !ask
[10:33] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:33] <logicalbomb> !samba
[10:33] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:33] <ubuntu> ok thanx
[10:33] <woodefec> !rumba
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rumba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <raher> can someone help me with my grub config ?
[10:34] <Dr_willis> raher,  what part of the grub config are you having issues with.
[10:35] <conor> well
[10:35] <conor> :D
[10:35] <ubuntu> iam trying to install linux on my pc , when i tried to create partitions manually i found strange things , i have 160 gb hard disk 4 partitions + unallocated area but he read it as sda1 160 gb only what can i do
[10:35] <conor> i want it to boot into the windows bootloader after 4 seconds
[10:36] <conor> Dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/832823
[10:36] <Dr_willis> conor,  yea. thats simple enough.. you can set the 'default' to be whaever you want. by editing the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:36] <_adaptr> !tango
[10:36] <ubotu> tango is a style guideline and icon set. It can be found and read about at http://tango-project.org
[10:36] <Dr_willis> I always set the 'default' to be 0 - and uncomment the windows 'example' in the comments.
[10:36] <_adaptr> I'll be ...
[10:37] <Dr_willis> that way windows stays at the #1 spot and dosent get moved by any new kernels.
[10:37] <ubuntu> when i tried to create the drives under windows by using partition magic i did it then i tried again but he read the one partition only of 13.5 gb
[10:37] <Dr_willis> conor,  the trick to rember is that grub starts counting at 0 :)
[10:38] <Dr_willis> why are pastebin sites always sooo slow...
[10:39] <chupa-chups> so can any one help me
[10:39] <conor> ye they are really slow
[10:39] <chupa-chups> ?????????????????
[10:39] <conor> i rather spam channels :D
[10:39] <_adaptr> chupa-chups: I'm afraid not, unless you're willing to share *what with*
[10:40] <Dr_willis> chupa-chups,  we dont have esp. :)
[10:40] <chupa-chups> excuse me i cant understand
[10:40] <conor> Dr_willis: so how do i do it ?
[10:40] <Dr_willis> chupa-chups,  the problem is?
[10:40] <_adaptr> that makes... 2_+of us
[10:41] <Dr_willis> conor,  edit the grub config.. change the 'default' entry. to point to the windows 'item'
[10:41] <chupa-chups> am trying to install linux on my pc , when i tried to create partitions manually i found strange things , i have 160 gb hard disk 4 partitions + unallocated area but he read it as sda1 160 gb only what can i do
[10:41] <wildchild> how can I go to local server by konqueror
[10:41] <chupa-chups> when i tried to create the drives under windows by using partition magic i did it then i tried again but he read it again  one partition only sda1 of 13.5 gb
[10:41] <_adaptr> chupa-chups: post actual fdisk output pls
[10:42] <chupa-chups> wt???
[10:42] <bill57785> ok, so now I have this USB hub....how do I get it to work on Kubuntu? I have tried running stuff through it, and the things get power, but I don't get it to actually work
[10:42] <_adaptr> chupa-chups: "fdisk -l",. then use a pastebin site to share that with us
[10:42] <Dr_willis> chupa-chups,  for a start dont use partition magic to 'make' the drives for linux.. resize the existing windows drives and leave a large section of the hard drive 'unallocated' then let the installer auto partuition that part of the drive.
[10:42] <wildchild> how can I go to local server by konqueror ?  (In kosole I just write user@IP and that's it)
[10:43] <_adaptr> wildchild: use "localhost"
[10:43] <Dr_willis> wildchild,  'go to' is vague.. you mean use 'ssh to get a shell/login into' a loca machine?
[10:43] <_adaptr> wildchild: this works even on Winblowz
[10:43] <chupa-chups> i already leave 30 for / and 2 gb for swap
[10:43] <wildchild> Dr_willis: yes SSH
[10:43] <conor> Dr_willis nearly everything is commented out
[10:43] <Dr_willis> wildchild,  man ssh
[10:44] <jeff_> !sound
[10:44] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:44] <wildchild> Dr_willis: and there I will dinf instructions how to login via konqueor?
[10:44] <Dr_willis> conor,  no its not. :P ## is a comment.. # is a option for the grub-config tool..       its defaulting to some defaults..   BACKUP your original.
[10:44] <Dr_willis> wildchild,  use the 'FISH://' feature of konquerort to browse files over ssh on a remote machine.
[10:45] <Dr_willis> conor,  example in mine.. --->   default         0
[10:45] <wildchild> Dr_willis: thx I was looking for "FISH"
[10:46] <Dr_willis> conor,  and under 'examples' theres a windows entry. that i uncomment - that way i have a 'windows' item at the top of the list.
[10:46] <Dr_willis> conor,  or count the entries you see in the grub menu and count down and put in that #. (starting at 0)
[10:46] <conor> o.0
[10:47] <Dr_willis> or go read the  grub docs and learn how grub works. its rather straightforwared
[10:48] <conor> !grub
[10:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:49] <conor> if you want to edit it for me on paste bin i'd be grateful :P
[10:49] <Dr_willis> You change 1 line....
[10:49] <Dr_willis> default # where # is what you
[10:49] <Dr_willis> you want/need it to be.
[10:50] <Dr_willis> you may want to 'unhide' the grub menu by default.   by commenting 'out' the hidemenu line..  ##hiddenmenu
[10:50] <Dr_willis> or just hit 'escape' to see the menu at boot time. then count the # of entries/lines. :)
[10:50] <xtavaresx> !sudo -i
[10:50] <Dr_willis> starting at 0
[10:50] <ubotu> sudo: Provide limited super user privileges to specific users. In component main, is important. Version 1.6.8p12-4ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 161 kB, installed size 396 kB
[10:51] <logicalbomb> how do I get my windows computer to show up on this computer in share
[10:51] <logicalbomb> I don't even know how to browse network computers on here
[10:51] <logicalbomb> !samba network
[10:51] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 2836 kB, installed size 7200 kB
[10:51] <Dr_willis> or use the remote places icon to browse network shares.
[10:51] <_adaptr> logicalbomb: set up a local network for your computer, so it occupies the same workgroup as your windows machine(s)
[10:52] <Dr_willis> or put-----> smb:/   in your konqueror address bar.
[10:52] <_adaptr> a local Samba is usually the cleanest way to get it working properly, and the config takes like 5 minutes
[10:52] <logicalbomb> nice
[10:52] <logicalbomb> done
[10:53] <Dr_willis> for linux to linux - i perfer to use the ssh filesystem feature.------->  fish://localhost
[10:53] <Dr_willis> for windows to linux - i tend to use 'winscp3' :)
[10:55] <Dheeraj_k> etherape!
[10:55] <_adaptr> absolutely
[10:56] <Dheeraj_k> kernel!
[10:56] <_adaptr> not ethe-rape, the other thing
[10:57] <conor> hmmm my brain aint taking anything in
[10:57] <_adaptr> winscp and putty are two of the few things that make windows bearable
[10:57] <_adaptr> wireshark is another :)
[10:57] <mnoir> um - cygwin too...
[10:58] <muge2510> hi all
[10:59] <Dheeraj_k> where is bot
[10:59] <_adaptr> mnoir: I'd rather use a solid OS with a broken set of tools than the other way around.. but the margin is small, I admit that
[10:59] <muge2510> who
[10:59] <_adaptr> !who
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about who - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:00] <Dheeraj_k> oh
[11:00] <Dheeraj_k> !etherape
[11:00] <mnoir> _adaptr: actually, I do not choose to use any MS stuff unless it is for testing
[11:00] <ubotu> etherape: graphical network monitor modeled after etherman. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-3build1 (edgy), package size 370 kB, installed size 928 kB
[11:00] <conor> i think ill have to reinstall kubuntu :_(
[11:01] <Dheeraj_k> even microsoft has some useful tool
[11:01] <Dheeraj_k> backup every thing
[11:01] <Dheeraj_k> !kernel
[11:01] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:02] <conor> is there a way to restore all my settings back to the way they were when i installed kubuntu ?
[11:03] <Dheeraj_k> !backup
[11:03] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !cloning
[11:04] <osiris> what does qt use to render graphics
[11:05] <Dheeraj_k> sudo apt-get install keep
[11:05] <Dheeraj_k> it is a backup tool
[11:06] <osiris> my graphics card is failing, and now any kde app either seg's or hard locks the box
[11:07] <d03boy> does anyone have a laptop with the Fn+F2 keys to turn on and off wireless? I am having trouble making use of this because xserv or SOMETHING keeps intercepting the key combo so I cant use it to turn wireless on
[11:07] <Dheeraj_k> !graphics
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <d03boy> the atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed blabla bla error shows up dmesg
[11:07] <_adaptr> osiris: Qt *is* a rendering engine, it directly speaks to the graphics interface
[11:08] <osiris> ok, then that makes sense
[11:08] <osiris> i just wanted to make sure qt isnt hosed, cause things have been so weird lately
[11:08] <_adaptr> it's a library for rendering graphics, which KDE uses to paint itself on your dekstop
[11:09] <_adaptr> well.. the bad news is that it could be
[11:09] <osiris> ktorrent just disappears when running, systemsettings will seg after about 2 screens, etc.
[11:09] <osiris> i dont think its qt, as it worked with a different nvidia card in here
[11:10] <_adaptr> osiris: run glxgears and glxinfo, see if the card is running okay
[11:10] <osiris> if i do that i KNOW it will hard lock
[11:10] <Dheeraj_k> does any body know how to participate in ubuntu development?
[11:10] <osiris> gl always will hang it
[11:10] <Dheeraj_k> i have got the college project
[11:10] <_adaptr> osiris: then I'd replace the card, see if that solves it
[11:11] <_adaptr> Dheeraj_k: congratulations
[11:11] <osiris> well for a poor boy to drop 80 bones on a new card, i kinda have to be sure
[11:11] <Dheeraj_k> i am planning to integrate sql with os >>sqldesktop
[11:11] <_adaptr> then download and boot Knoppix
[11:11] <_adaptr> if that does opengl, you KNOW it's software
[11:12] <d03boy> wow. wireless just started working... apparently you have to reboot? I thought you never had to reboot in linux :|
[11:12] <mohammed> Hi guys ! Greetings ..
[11:12] <osiris> _adaptr, good point
[11:12] <_adaptr> d03boy: there can be many reasons to reboot Linux
[11:13] <cloakable> Yeah, a Kernel upgrade/change
[11:13] <mohammed> I'm done with Gnome ! decided to switch to kde ... what's the best memory size to have on PC ?
[11:13] <d03boy> mohammed, good call ;0
[11:13] <_adaptr> mohammed: as much as the CPU architecture can address, obviously
[11:14] <_adaptr> mohammed: none of my workstations have less than 1GB, and my main machine has 2
[11:14] <mohammed> I'm running on P4 2.4 GH ... I assume kde worked fine on my 256 mb memory pc
[11:15] <Dr_willis> 256 ick
[11:15] <_adaptr> hahahahahahha.. erm, sorry, but that's just hilarious.. I haven't run with 256MB since I got a 1GHz + machine
[11:15] <Dr_willis> save up some $$   get more
[11:15] <_adaptr> that would be just enough to get WIndows XP to start up.. or KDE
[11:15] <mohammed> lol ! I know ! hence I'll upgrade :D
[11:16] <mohammed> Will 512 MB be enough then ?
[11:16] <Dheeraj_k> me too have 2.4 with 256ram and kubuntu run fine on it
[11:16] <_adaptr> mohammed: enough for *what* ?
[11:16] <Dheeraj_k> get 2gb!
[11:16] <d03boy> how can I permanently turn off the Konsole bell? it turns itself back on
[11:16] <mohammed> 512+256 ! for Kubuntu everyday use !
[11:17] <Dr_willis> d03boy,  'save as default'
[11:17] <_adaptr> indeed, 2GB dual-channel will cost you around $400, and it will make your PC last at least twice as long as your neighbour kids' 33 GHz Pentium-whatever0the-latest with crappy hardware and 512MB
[11:17] <d03boy> ah, nice
[11:17] <Dheeraj_k> i may upgrade my pc in jan just to trial and test vista
[11:17] <mohammed> oh yeah !
[11:17] <_adaptr> Dheeraj_k: Vista will be a trial for the length of its lifetime
[11:18] <mohammed> yeah that's anothere point , vista
[11:18] <Dheeraj_k> i agree!
[11:18] <_adaptr> Dheeraj_k: if all WIndows versions up to now are any indication, anyway
[11:19] <_adaptr> there was one decent Windows version, and they killed it
[11:19] <Dheeraj_k> win98?
[11:19] <d03boy> se
[11:19] <_adaptr> hahaha.. funny
[11:20] <jon_> i have an install question if someone can help
[11:20] <_adaptr> Windows 2000 was finicky, but it ran really well, and even had a workstation version that was actually derived from the server version - not the other way around, as every other windows family before or since
[11:20] <mohammed> Vista won't be able to service for couple of months till software vendors maintain software stability for it
[11:20] <Dheeraj_k> i am currently using window to run visual studio and some games for every thing else there is k-Ubuntu
[11:20] <_adaptr> jon_: ask it, don't wait around
[11:20] <jon_> thanks
[11:21] <Dheeraj_k> i am running winxp on my pc with out aVirus and fWall but still it is running fine :)
[11:21] <jon_> i'm trying to install and want to put grub on the MBR of my sata drive which is sda. by default it puts it on (hd0) and i just need to know what replace this with
[11:21] <jon_> i tried (sd0) and it failed
[11:22] <wildchild> hello
[11:22] <wildchild> where is usually apache located on server
[11:22] <wildchild> I am looking for apache.conf
[11:22] <Dheeraj_k> has any body played 3d game in linux?
[11:22] <wildchild> or what's the command to find apache.conf
[11:22] <Dheeraj_k> !apache
[11:22] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[11:25] <mnoir> wildchild: try 'man locate' as a starter
[11:26] <jon_> does (hd0) symbolize first IDE drive or first disk as in the bios boot order
[11:27] <Dheeraj_k> does any body know wat is the advantage unix has over linux? vise versa
[11:28] <tamacracker> Hey guys?... Doesn't Kubuntu Edgy Eft, come with Wine?
[11:28] <_adaptr> Dheeraj_k: define "unix"
[11:28] <_adaptr> Dheeraj_k: Linux *is* a unix-like OS
[11:28] <_adaptr> as in it is POSIX-compliant, and supports the GNU toolset
[11:28] <jon_> ok nm i found it....
[11:28] <Dheeraj_k> yeah that i know
[11:29] <_adaptr> Dheeraj_k: then what is your question ?
[11:29] <mnoir> tamacracker: come with? no. can you install from the repositories? yes
[11:29] <tamacracker> Oh heh... alright I'll check it out.