[00:18] <shaker> hj
[01:07] <MadRobot> Hi all.
[01:08] <MadRobot> How do I get my system to sleep or hibernate when I shut the led of laptop?
 need help to install 10.10 on lap top will not boot from cd
[01:12] <cuznt> freebird:  maybe you need to change your start up options?
[01:12] <cuznt> sometimes is F12
[02:37] <jschall> My netbook stopped suspending when I close the lid. The settings are right and the lid switch is obviously working (i can see the screen turn off automatically when i close the lid) It used to suspend. Suspend works if I do it through the menus.
[02:38] <jschall> I've tried doing a cold boot and I've tried messing with the settings. I've looked at dmesg and nothing comes up when I close and open the lid
[02:38] <jschall> it also still suspends after 5 minutes, which is what its set to do.
[02:39] <jschall> i can change the setting to shutdown when lid is closed and it will still do nothing.
[02:40] <jschall> everything points to the lid switch except that the lid switch is very obviously working.
[03:07] <bsa161> hi
[03:58] <ansong> i'm running 10.10 and kde4.5.2, every once in a while, an icon will appear momentarily in my system tray and then disappear
[03:59] <ansong> i can never see what it is before it goes away, but it looks somewhat like the old klipper icon or maybe a package manager icon (brown box in the background perhaps)
[04:00] <ansong> does anyone know how i could determine what app it is?
[04:15] <ansong> any suggestions?
[04:28] <dasKreech> ansong: Packagekit I'll bet
[04:30] <ansong> dasKreech: that was totally it. the kpackagekit app when it checks for updates
[04:30] <ansong> thanks
[04:31] <dasKreech> ansong: that's what I thought it has different icons there when it's doing different things. and the brown package is when it's downloading or checking the repos (technically also downloading)
[04:31] <dasKreech> Just takes a second but it would pop up and be noticable
[04:32] <ansong> i've always used aptitude. kubuntu does everything from a gui; i'm not used to it yet
[04:34] <ansong> thanks again
[04:38] <LavaEagle> Hey quick question
[04:39] <LavaEagle> After installing Kubuntu via wubi
[04:39] <LavaEagle> Wireless works and is auto enabled but after a restart it is disabled and I can't figure out how to re enable it
[04:45] <valorie> I don't know much about wubi
[04:45] <valorie> but do you have a little connection icon?
[04:46] <valorie> looks like a dot and waves coming up
[04:46] <valorie> click on that and you should get a menu
[04:47] <valorie> sometimes you just have to click on the strongest signal (usually your own) to wake it up
[04:50] <LavaEagle> It's disabled is the problem
[04:51] <LavaEagle> and I went through ubuntu's documents and they didn't help
[04:51] <LavaEagle> I can't find where to re enable it so it can scan
[04:51] <LavaEagle> I'm gonna try again here
[05:06] <valorie> just restart the signal
[05:06] <valorie> even if you have to rescan it
[05:06] <valorie> the little applet does a good job usually
[05:19] <jschall> does anyone have insight on what causes my microphone to not work when the balance is centered?
[07:22] <austin_boston> i have no idea how this works, hahah
[08:27] <n8w> hey
[08:27] <n8w> im runin 10.10 n everytime the kpackage searches for updates it gets stock in my sys tray...when i close it down,the plasma crashes...
[09:21] <FlashDeluxe> hi @ all! how can i find out which time my dhcp server has got? i am using dhcpd3.
[09:51] <Waffle> i'm trying to edit a .flv in kdenlive but the file type is not suported
[09:52] <Waffle> can anyone help me
[09:53] <jesperht> Waffle: I've never tried editing an flv file directly. In worst case you can always convert it to a format your system supports first.
[09:54] <Waffle> jesperht,  like what format? what program?
[09:54] <jesperht> Waffle: Though after some googling I get the impression that you should be able to import anything that ffmpeg can handle. Do you have all pertinent codecs installed?
[09:56] <Waffle> i have some of them but not all of them
[10:00] <Waffle> jesperht,  not that i know off
[10:05] <jesperht> Waffle: I just tried it on my kubuntu system, and it worked fine. Make sure that "all files" are selected in the file dialog filter, and that you have all the libavcodec packages installed.
[10:05] <Waffle> jesperht,  tried that but when i rendered the cropped clip it was the wrong section
[10:09] <Waffle> jesperht,  what has gone wrong
[10:17] <Waffle> jesperht,  what do i do now?
[10:20] <Waffle> edit flv correctley in ubuntu
[10:26] <jesperht> Waffle: Good question. I suggest you query the kdenlive people. Either on IRC - or ideally, through a bug report
[11:00] <FlashDeluxe> hi @ all! I got a problem, my dhcp3 has got the wrong time and i don`t know how to set the correct time, can anybody help me?
[11:03] <FlashDeluxe> hwclock --show and date are showing me the right time
[11:06] <tommi> hello all, i have to start krunner manually at each login
[11:06] <moetunes> FlashDeluxe:  is there anything in   man dhcpd.conf   that'll help?
[11:06] <tommi> does somebody know how to fix this
[11:07] <moetunes> tommi:  save the session before you log out
[11:08] <tommi> ok lets logout :)
[11:08] <FlashDeluxe> moetunes: non, it shows me how to configure ntp for time syncing but it doesn`t take any effect
[11:09] <moetunes> FlashDeluxe:  is there a config for it in /etc or somewhere that could be overriding your settings?
[11:10] <moetunes> I don't use it here
[11:12] <FlashDeluxe> moetunes: no
[11:16] <dibblego> is kino video editor a dead project?
[11:18] <moetunes> FlashDeluxe:  not much on google about it either - you have restarted the daemon?
[11:19] <FlashDeluxe> moetunes: of course, doesn`t change anything. Maybe i could tell the dhcp to take the system time? Is that possible?
[11:21] <moetunes> FlashDeluxe:  some reading - http://spblinux.de/2.0/doc/dhcp-options.html
[11:41] <jesse_> anyone used drupal
[11:41] <jesse_> help required
[11:41] <jesse_> hay
[12:24] <olskolirc> how do I get kde 4.5?  is there a repository for it?
[12:29] <Space_Man> olskolirc: have a read http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5.2
[12:30] <olskolirc> without upgrading to Maverick Space_Man I'm on Karmic
[12:34] <olskolirc> never mind Space_Man its not happening
[12:34] <olskolirc> kde 4.5 requires Maverick that piece of crap
[12:54] <geekosopher> does kmail support gnupg in maverick?
[13:00] <jesse_> hay
[13:01] <jesse_> is there any one using drupal
[13:01] <jesse_> ....??
[13:01] <jesse_> i need some help
[13:06] <naftilos76> hi everyone, as Kubuntu 10.10 uses pulse as its' default sound server, i would like to ask this: Can i record a conversation that's taking place on Skype? That is, i need some kind of 'mix' function so that i can re-direct audio streams to an audio recording app like 'audacity'. Is that possible?
[13:07] <faLUCE> well: how can I mount a remote ssh directory, wich requires authentication with user and password on /my/local/dir ?
[13:09] <naftilos76> sudo sshfs -p7822 -o allow_other user@domain_name local_mount_point
[13:10] <faLUCE> thanks naftilos76
[13:10] <naftilos76> faLUCE: try this
[13:10] <faLUCE> naftilos76: but where is the password ?
[13:10] <naftilos76> faLUCE: if this is a server on your
[13:10] <faLUCE> I have a client, not a server
[13:11] <naftilos76> remote server somewhere out there they have to have your IP in a white list or something
[13:11] <naftilos76> it will ask you the password when you press ENTER
[13:12] <naftilos76> if i remember well!
[13:13] <naftilos76> what file manager are you using? dolphin or konqueror?
[13:13] <naftilos76> or other?
[13:14] <naftilos76> have you installed sshfs? that is the first step
[13:14] <naftilos76> sudo apt-get install sshfs
[13:14] <naftilos76> if you haven't
[13:15] <naftilos76> Anyone on the pulse sound server issue?
[13:21] <cba123> How can I change my default dolphin "browse" folder to something other than /home/cba123/Documents?  As in when I click browse in firefox, it goes to Documents by default, and I almost never use that folder to upload things from.
[13:22] <nerdy_kid> I am looking for the kdebindings package and cant find it in synaptic.  I found kdebinding-dbg however.  does it exist?
[13:29] <moetunes> !find kdebind
[13:30] <moetunes> seems that's it
[13:32] <nerdy_kid> moetunes strange...
[13:32] <moetunes> nerdy_kid:  it's prob done through something else now
[13:34] <nerdy_kid> moetunes well libkimono4.1-cil seems to do the job, thanks for your help
[13:35] <moetunes> np
[14:47] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:52] <ubuntu> dai blz
[14:52] <ubuntu> \list
[15:45] <polis> hi
[16:25] <sresu> About KDE Menu Editor, for an applicationunder General tab there is an option 'Place in system tray' to be ticked/unticked. What does this option actually do? It works when the application is running or its part of autostart?
[16:39] <dasKreech> sresu: I think when it is running
[16:48] <sresu> dasKreech: Ok. Thanks
[16:49] <paja> Hi, after succesfully upgraded from Kubuntu (x64) 10.04 ==> 10.10 I have a problem with eclipse and pidgin (maybe some other non qt apps). When I "check" checkbox, it frozen this app. Coud you help me where to start?
[16:53] <paja> .. to find bug/solution. There is not problem in java -- jDownloader works fine. I don't know if there is some connection Eclipse-gtk .. (and now I found that there is a problem in Gimp too).
[16:55] <paja> Works fine when it's started by root!
[16:57] <LOGAN> hi is it possible to have a custom icon for a flash USB drive ?
[16:57] <OmnipotentEntity> paja, you might want to try renaming your settings for that app.
[16:58] <paja> OmnipotentEntity: What do you mean? Which settings?
[16:59] <OmnipotentEntity> ~/.purple for pidgin
[16:59] <paja> OmnipotentEntity: I've deleted ~/.eclipse configuration files and doesn't help ..
[17:00] <OmnipotentEntity> then it might wind up being a permissions issue
[17:00] <OmnipotentEntity> I don't know enough about eclipse to give you better advice though.
[17:04] <paja> OmnipotentEntity: ok, but I hope the problem is not in eclipse. I have test it in gimp => all config is removed and reinitialized .. this is "in" the "checkbox", not in app.. it freeze this application only if it is checked (unchecking is fine).. maybe i can try to ask in some #GTK chat
[17:05] <OmnipotentEntity> perhaps, you can also try renaming the gtk configuration files?
[17:08] <paja> OmnipotentEntity: all ~/.g* deleted :-) and it not helped me.
[17:09] <OmnipotentEntity> why are you deleting the files?
[17:09] <OmnipotentEntity> just rename them....
[17:09] <paja> OmnipotentEntity: I'm lazy and it doesn't make me a problem..
[17:11] <paja> OmnipotentEntity: and I have a `trash` utility
[17:19] <johnny77> I was playing around in KDE yesterday and noticed that it seemed while the desktop icons changed with the desktop, the windows of all desktops where always shown. Is there a way to only show windows from the current desktop?
[17:33] <Kalidarn> hmm
[17:33] <Kalidarn> is it normal for different cores to spike
[17:34] <Kalidarn> i guess they're sharing the load
[17:34] <ftg2> is there a way to change the data source on this "Weather Forecaste" plasmoid? a source that is not wetter (seems to be the only source configurable from settings)
[17:37] <Kalidarn> ftg2: ive wondered that myself i've been wanting it to get data from bom.gov.au
[17:37] <Kalidarn> for australian unfortunately their reports are not offered in JSON or XML
[17:37] <Kalidarn> but instead are crappy TXT documents
[17:37] <dasKreech> johnny77: Where?
[17:38] <dasKreech> ftg2: They pull from a common weather data engine backend you can submit a URL and parser for that and the plasmoids will all magically gt that option
[17:38] <johnny77> dasKreech, in the panel.
[17:38] <dasKreech> The taskbar?
[17:39] <dasKreech> go to the taskbar settings and set how you want to see the windows
[17:39] <johnny77> dasKreech, Yeah, sorry. I'm new to Ubuntu and especially to KDE.
[17:39] <dasKreech> johnny77: welcome to Linux :)
[17:39] <dasKreech> and special welcome to KDE :)
[17:39] <ftg2> dasKreech: ahh. i see. do you have a url where i can learn more about this backend? i'd like to use wunderground, or one of the other local (us) xml sources
[17:40] <dasKreech> johnny77: You should have a button at the end of the panel on the right normally
[17:40] <dasKreech> click that and you will be in edit mode. Right click on the taskbar and you will have an option for taskbar settings. Explore there
[17:40] <dasKreech> ftg2: #plasma would be a good place to start inquiry
[17:41] <ftg2> dasKreech: thanks
[17:41] <johnny77> dasKreech, thank you. I'll check it out.
[17:56] <Kalidarn> hey anyone aound
[18:02] <ftg2> bah. i give up. there is no way to get wunderground into a weather app short or writing it myself. :(
[18:02] <ftg2> and the terms of service are restrictive, so even if i did write it, redistribution would be impossible
[18:08] <Peace-> ftg2: ?
[18:11] <ftg2> Peace-: do you know where i can get more info on the weather dataengine used by kde? google has told me very little. all i managed to find was a thread explaining why the sources are so limited. ... the terms of service on most of these weather api's do not allow it
[18:12] <Peace-> oh
[18:12] <Peace-> i dunno maybe in #kde-dev
[18:12] <Peace-> or something like that
[18:12] <ftg2> right :\
[18:14] <johnny77> How do I delete activities?
[18:25] <sresu> !info kdebase
[18:25] <sresu> !info kdebase lucid
[18:42] <johnny77> In the application launcher menu there is a favorite list. Where can I edit that list?
[18:51] <Peace-> johnny77: mm i think you can't
[18:51] <Peace-> maybe
[18:51] <Peace-> i dunno
[18:51] <Peace-> you have only to add and remove
[18:52] <Peace-> then ytou can try to modify the order
[18:59] <Peace-> KillJoy: oh
[19:00] <Peace-> KillJoy:  digita  /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[19:07] <Peace->  KillJoy                 /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[19:16] <pawleeq> hello
[19:17] <pawleeq> on kubuntu 10.10 with kde 4.5.1 suddenly up arrow key stopped working, any clue? (it works with defined shortcuts)
[19:21] <dasKreech> pawleeq: you mean if you open kate and want to use the up arrow to move up in a document it doesn't work?
[19:23] <pawleeq> dasKreech, yes, also in konsole, firefox etc
[19:23] <dasKreech> Works here in 4.5.2
[19:25] <pawleeq> well thats nice, I think this started after I changed theme for GTK apps, but I can not say, whether this an be the reason
[19:25] <chiiiiiz> hi!!
[19:25] <chiiiiiz> hello
[19:25] <chiiiiiz> Can anyone help me configuring my sound on Kubuntu1010?
[19:25] <chiiiiiz> I have a M-audio Delta1010LT, the sound works, but only on 1 channel (I have 4 analogic channels, that I want to dispatch between my phones, desktop  loudspeakers, home-cinema loudspeakers.
[19:25] <chiiiiiz> It works with Ubuntustudio10.04... and I do not manage to have it working with KDE and phonon...
[19:25] <chiiiiiz> I have the latest alsa packages installed (not compiled by myself, so maybe there are options to be mentioned, that were not, like --with-cards=ice1724...)
[19:25] <FloodBotK2> chiiiiiz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:27] <chiiiiiz> I must also add that all DAC channels are at 100% in Kmix..
[19:35] <dasKreech> !sound
[19:37] <pawleeq> !keys
[19:40] <olskolirc> !MP3
[19:40] <olskolirc> !NVIDIA
[19:41] <olskolirc> !softcam
[20:00] <apparle> hello guys
[20:00] <apparle> I am in the mood to help. anyone needs it? :P
[20:01] <sresu> I need help with knetdockapp. knetdockapp is Network activity monitor applet for KDE...
[20:02] <sresu> !info knetdockapp | apparle, Will you please install it?
[20:03] <apparle> sresu: doesn't apt-get install do it?
[20:03] <sresu> apparle: Nah... I didn't say I want to install it. Do you have it installed? Or have you used it?
[20:04] <apparle> sresu: is it there for lucid. I am yet to shift to maverick.... I'll check
[20:04] <sresu> !info knetdockapp lucid
[20:04] <sresu> Yes, I'm on lucid
[20:05] <James147> sresu: knetdock app looks like a kde 3 program :S
[20:06] <James147> sresu: what exactly do you need help with?
[20:07] <apparle> sresu: too big a download for me... :( it will take hours
[20:08] <sresu> James147: Yeah, It lists the devices and displays network activity with data received/sent rate. I want to find command for it show eth) details like what all should be with <knetdockapp> to show only about eth0 and not selection of devices.. in CLI?
[20:08] <sresu> apparle: No problems. Thanks for considering the question
[20:08] <James147> sresu: not sure I understand
[20:09] <sresu> James147: Umm.. I didn't frame it properly. Sorry
[20:09] <sresu> James147: Run <knetdockapp> in CLI. What do you get?
[20:09] <James147> sresu: dont have it installed, and dont really feeling like installing the kde3 dependcies :(
[20:09] <halizah> hello, any one can help me about kopete?
[20:10] <James147> !ask | halizah
[20:10] <prower> hello :> i've read the disappointing news recently that natty is going to ship with Unity as it's default shell for GNOME, even despite the fact that copyright has to be assigned to Canonical to develop for it :< Will Kubuntu continue to use a mostly stock KDE, or are there plans to replace its interface with a proprietary one as well?
[20:10] <sresu> James147: Whats your platform version?
[20:10] <James147> sresu: running maverick with kde 4.5
[20:10] <apparle> sresu: did you try ifconfig
[20:11] <sresu> James147: I installed it on KDE 4.5.1 in lucid
[20:11] <usc> installed phphmyadmin yet when i type the url localhost/phpmyadmin i get the following error The requested URL /phpmyadmin was not found on this server.
[20:11] <usc> Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 80
[20:11] <usc> anyone?
[20:11] <James147> prower: dont know why they would replace kde with something else... the whole point in kubuntu is that it uses kde
[20:11] <sresu> apparle: Yeah.. I know about that.. but knedockapp gives the info I need :)
[20:11] <apparle> sresu: what info exactly
[20:12] <sresu> James147: I installed it on KDE 4.5.1 in lucid and there was no problem
[20:12] <James147> sresu: I would just use the network manager widget (not knetworkmanager) it give me all the info I need with a nice graph :D
[20:12] <prower> James147: Well yes, that's true...then again, Canonical also claims that Ubuntu proper will always be a "GNOME distribution" that will not be using GNOME Shell in the future :P What they say doesn't necessarily equate to what they mean
[20:12] <sresu> James147: Whats the name of widget?
[20:12] <apparle> sresu: its a nice app.
[20:13] <James147> sresu: you might need to install "plasma-widget-networkmanagment" (this will uninstall knetwork manager)
[20:14] <sresu> James147: E: Couldn't find package plasma-widget-networkmanagment
[20:14] <James147> sresu: Then it should be in the add widgets dialog under "network managemtn" i believe
[20:14] <sresu> oh -ok
[20:14] <sresu> "e"
[20:14] <James147> sresu: plasma-widget-networkmanagement   :)
[20:14] <sresu> Yeah:)
[20:14] <apparle> sresu: what info do you need exactly?
[20:15] <sresu> apparle: Yeah.. A moment please :) Let me try out that widget if it helps :)
[20:15] <apparle> prower: give me the link to the news you are referring to, I have not read it
[20:17] <sresu> James147: How to use it? Does it come as part of widget installation in panel?
[20:18] <James147> sresu: its used lick any othwer widget
[20:18] <sresu> James147: What?
[20:18] <James147> sresu: you can add it to the systray through the systray settings, or drag it to the panel/desktop
[20:18] <James147> *like any other*  ^^
[20:19] <sresu> James147: Are you talking about the widget which comes with shows a small port as icon with the small RJ45 ?
[20:20] <James147> sresu: ??
[20:20] <sresu> James147: Are you talking about the widget which shows a small port as icon with small RJ45?
[20:24] <sresu> James147: Yes.. Thanks :)
[20:24] <sresu> apparle: Thanks.. Got it now
[20:24] <apparle> sresu: but what were you looking in the first place?
[20:24] <apparle> :P
[20:27] <dasKreech> prower: Canonical isn't as tightly concerned with Kubuntu as it is with the GNOME distro Ubuntu. Seems more and more that's a boon for us
[20:28] <dasKreech> prower: So vanilla shipped KDE for Kubuntu :)
[20:30] <kusi> hello! how do I mount a directory (which is set up in fstab) in dolphin?
[20:31] <dasKreech> kusi: click on it as long as you have rights to mount it
[20:32] <kusi> dasKreech: I have rights to mount it. when i click on it in dolphin, it just opens the empty directory
[20:32] <dasKreech> kusi: Sorry I meant on the side panel in places
[20:33] <kusi> I dragged the folder to the side panel in places, but still the same behavior
[20:33] <kusi> it doesn't perform the mount
[20:34] <dasKreech> Hmm?
[20:34] <dasKreech> no
[20:34] <dasKreech> The partition should turn up
[20:34] <dasKreech> what are you mounting? somethign local or a remote dir?
[20:35] <kusi> remote
[20:35] <dasKreech> ah hmm
[20:35] <dasKreech> >_>
[20:35] <dasKreech> I'd probably press F4 and type sudo mount -a :)
[20:35] <kusi> sshfs
[20:36] <kusi> well, yes, that works of course :)
[20:36] <kusi> mount mydir  on the command line works
[20:38] <kusi> in kde 3.5, there used to be a special type of file which you could put onto the desktop. a .deskop file I believe. when you clicked on it, the directory was mounted
[20:38] <Peace-> mm
[20:39] <Peace-> file.destop is a laucher
[20:39] <Peace-> so you can do whaterer you want
[20:39] <Peace-> just you have to set in the proprieties
[20:39] <Peace-> of file.desktop
[20:39] <prower> dasKreech, sorry for the delay there, and thanks, that's good to hear :> at least those of us that don't want to be locked into canonical's increasingly-proprietary solutions will have an alternative without having to switch distros
[20:40] <kusi> Peace: i can define a directory to be mounted in the .desktop file?
[20:40] <Peace-> kusi: you can do what you want
[20:40] <Peace-> if you click on the desktop
[20:40] <Peace-> you can create a laucher
[20:40] <kusi> a plasma widget?
[20:40] <Peace-> for an application or
[20:41] <Peace-> or a place
[20:41] <Peace-> just set the desktop like folder view
[20:41] <Peace-> right button on the desktop
[20:41] <Peace-> folder view
[20:42] <Peace-> right button on the desktop   -------___> desktop activities-------->folder view
[20:42] <Peace-> then toyu can create your lika to application
[20:45] <kusi> Peace: nothing happens if i right click on the desktop
[20:46] <nUboon2Age>  Kubuntu fans, if anyone wants to participate in bringing Kubuntu on Ubuntu One to fruition, i started a team on LP called KubuntuOne, with the membership open (at least for now):  https://launchpad.net/~kubuntuone  udslogger / apachelogger said he'd consult to help it happen.
[20:47] <kusi> so KDE 4 cannot mount a directory??
[20:48] <kusi> need to go back to kde 3.5?
[20:48] <nafri> hello, I'm trying to run vmware on kubuntu but vmware can't find kernel header... any idea?
[20:50] <nix0n> find russian channel
[21:01] <olskolirc> what version of kubuntu nafri?
[21:02] <nafri> olskolirc: latest version 10.10
[21:02] <olskolirc> go to #vmware nafri
[21:02] <olskolirc> im not touching 1010
[21:02] <olskolirc> it has enough problems
[21:03] <dasKreech> prower: To be honest you can simply uninstall Unity and install GNOME3 Shell if you want so there isn't that much lock in
[21:04] <dasKreech> kusi: Ah well yes you can do that was well but maybe ask in #dolphin what the proposed solution is?
[21:05] <dasKreech> kusi: You need to make the .desktop explictly executable in KDE4 so people don't e-mail viruses
[21:08] <prower> dasKreech, Well that's fair enough, although being Canonical I'm sure they'll be working toward eliminating choice rather than preserving it :> In either case I'll have to return shortly, time to start up KDE!
[21:13] <snarkster> can anyone tell me why there is a greyed out show terminal button on the upgrade dialog?
[21:13] <snarkster> i mean why even have it if its greyed out?
[21:23] <smooph> Hey i want to openup a port in kubuntu ... that seems to be closed by default ... i don't have a firewall ... how can i do that ?
[21:28] <smooph> ?
[21:29] <James147> smooph: kuubntu's firewall is disabled by default... all ports should be open
[21:29] <James147> !ufw
[21:30] <smooph> James147: thats what i thought but when i do a netstat -la I can see that port 6546 is LISTEN but when nmaping its not there
[21:32] <smooph> uppps even though i cannot see it, it still works ... is telnet invisible?
[21:36] <gr0gmint> whats the text editor for KDE4 called? :$
[21:36] <Unksi> kate
[21:36] <gr0gmint> thanks
[21:36] <Unksi> youre welcome
[21:42] <prower> hello :> well kde seems to be working out great so far but i've encountered one problem...i use evolution for e-mails and other contacts but when i start it, plasma-desktop segfaults :<
[21:45] <DanaG> Weird... Gtk under kde4 is not using KDE's gtkrc.
[21:47] <snarkster> so everything locked up during the dist-upgrade. how do i restart it?
[21:47] <DanaG> And, how are you supposed to log out?
[21:48] <James147> DanaG: kmenu > leave > logout    or alt+F2 > type "logout"
[21:48] <BlackTenshi> Hello all
[21:48] <DanaG> Ah.  Plasma-netbook doesn't have an obvious logout.
[21:49] <James147> ah, netbook :) if i remember right, one of the widgets in the panel will logout you
[21:50] <snarkster> if i was doing a dist-upgrade and it locked up how do i restart the upgrade?
[21:53] <DanaG> For a pen tablet PC, KDE's bulkiness (pixels, not RAM) helps.
[21:54] <DanaG> Or more correctly, Oxygen is bulky.
[22:01] <DanaG> Hmm, it still won't use my Gtk theme.
[22:03] <rikard> Hi all, i am kinda new to Kubuntu and do not even know if I am asking this in the right forum - but can someone please help me set up a NFS mapping of a NAS server in Kubuntu? :s
[22:08] <DanaG> Argh!  I even copied the dang qtcurve.sh.... Still doesn't work!
[22:12] <dasKreech> rikard: Hallo
[22:12] <dasKreech> !nfs
[22:13] <rikard> dasKreech: yes, i have been looking at it but I still doesnt get it to work
[22:15] <rikard> In my NAS (Synology DS207+) the only settings I can make is;  Hostname, R/RW and Root squash
[22:15] <rikard> then I edit my /etc/fstab accordingly in Kubuntu terminal
[22:16] <rikard> after I have made the directories
[22:16] <rikard> so in my case I have made a folder (in Kubuntu) called /media/video/
[22:18] <rikard> in fstab I have written a line like this: <IP_ADDRESS>:/video  /media/video nfs    _netdev,auto,user              0  0
[22:19] <rikard> still my /media/video shows up empty on my Kubuntu client
[22:20] <rikard> I thought that NFS was the way to go when using Linux...?
[22:23] <BlackTenshi> Tryin' something, BRB
[22:25] <dasKreech> rikard: did you try sudo mount -a ?
[22:25] <rikard> yes
[22:32] <rikard> dasKreech: It works if I in the terminal just write: sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/Volume1/video /media/video
[22:32] <rikard> but if I write it in the fstab it does not work...
[22:33] <rikard> and shouldnt I write any options and stuff in the fstab?
[22:37] <Flutiju`> rikard : I put "<IP_ADDRESS>:/nfs/public /media/STORAGE/public  nfs     rw,intr,soft    0       0" in my fstab and nfs works fine
[22:41] <rikard> Flutiju: is "rw,intr,soft    0       0" necessary and what do they do?
[22:41] <rikard> isnt that set on the server already?
[22:41] <rikard> why do I have to write that in the clients fstab?
[22:42] <Flutiju`> On the server you "allow  rw" on the folder, but when you mount you have to tell how do you want to mount
[22:42] <Flutiju`> (Here you wanna mount with the rw rigths)
[22:43] <Flutiju`> (Well, if you want of course)
[22:57] <BlackTenshi> ...
[22:57] <BlackTenshi> My top part of the window is gone...
[22:57] <BlackTenshi> Brb...
[23:02] <dfaure> I just installed kubuntu 10.4 from the standard .iso, but it didn't install either lilo nor grub, so it won't boot (!). I noticed when mounting the partition again from the livecd... no lilo, no grub, what am I missing?
[23:03] <dfaure> ah! found grub-pc. Can't find config files though.
[23:05] <James147> !grub2
[23:06] <dfaure> yep, thx, found docu. still no idea why a fresh install didn't boot, but let's see...
[23:19] <muesli> since kubuntu 10.10, my system only boots with a text logo
[23:19] <muesli> not that it's a big issue or anything
[23:19] <muesli> i'm just curious what happened there
[23:19] <muesli> plymouth theme is still set to kubuntu logo
[23:23] <muesli> is there a tool like startup-manager for kde?
[23:31] <Fanfare> muesli: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/plymouth did work for me (german)
[23:31] <Fanfare> dont think there is a kde frontend already...


[07:45] <LocutusOfBorg> stgraber, LP: #1843383 pleeeeeeeeeeease^
[07:45] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, ^^
[08:24] <seb128> could people stop doing retries on duplicity/ppc64el build? it's not going to work, the tests need to be fixed
[09:58] <cpaelzer> shame on me, why must x86 assembly always be so hard - does anyone know if the segement registers FS/GS are adapting size if e.g. in .code64 mode - are they still only 16bit there or bigger?
[09:58] <cpaelzer> there are all kind of uses of the regs https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=pop%5Ba-z%5D%5Cs*%25fs&literal=0 but usually in .code16 or .code32
[09:59] <cpaelzer> with the new gcc in eoan this particular one using quad words fails https://codesearch.debian.net/show?file=ipxe_1.0.0%2Bgit-20190125.36a4c85-1%2Fsrc%2Farch%2Fx86_64%2Fcore%2Fgdbidt.S&line=161
[09:59] <cpaelzer> but it is in .code64 unlike most of the others
[09:59] <cpaelzer> gcc seems to be happy with popw and I now wonder if this is a false positive by gcc on FS/GS being 16bit or if this really never changes size
[10:00] <cpaelzer> what makes this more awkward in .code32 the pushl/popl (32bit) seem to be working
[10:35] <rafaeldtinoco> cpaelzer: amd did something to fs/gs in amd64, abandoning its original purpose since nobody used segmentation anylonger
[10:35] <rafaeldtinoco> im not sure what though
[10:35] <cpaelzer> I know that it is reused
[10:35] <cpaelzer> for cpu local storgae and such
[10:35] <cpaelzer> but I need the size
[10:35] <rafaeldtinoco> I see
[10:36] <cpaelzer> I might find the size if I read the related kernel source thou ...
[10:36] <rafaeldtinoco> cpaelzer: so... since you are here..
[10:36] <rafaeldtinoco> have u ever seen a HW instruction that does not return
[10:36] <cpaelzer> yet so far - always I see code doing 1. switch to 16bit then 2. use small push/pop
[10:36] <rafaeldtinoco> and program counter stays in the same address
[10:36] <rafaeldtinoco> over and over after preempted by sched
[10:36] <cpaelzer> yes I have seen that
[10:36] <rafaeldtinoco> and it goes back to that pc and stays there
[10:36] <cpaelzer> which arch rafaeldtinoco?
[10:36] <rafaeldtinoco> etc etc
[10:36] <rafaeldtinoco> aarch64
[10:37] <rafaeldtinoco> I think huawei microcode for cmpxchg is broken
[10:37] <rafaeldtinoco> :o)
[10:37] <cpaelzer> this is exactly the kind of instructions youd expect such a bug
[10:37] <rafaeldtinoco> => 0x0000aaaaaabd4110 <+32>:    stlxr   w2, w1, [x0]
[10:37] <cpaelzer> not on e.g. an add
[10:37] <rafaeldtinoco> if I move by hand the program counter
[10:37] <rafaeldtinoco> it moves and continues
[10:37] <rafaeldtinoco> until there is another instruction
[10:37] <rafaeldtinoco> of the same kind
[10:37] <rafaeldtinoco> :o)
[10:37] <rafaeldtinoco> i'll check w/ them in public bug
[10:38] <cpaelzer> rafaeldtinoco: https://community.arm.com/developer/tools-software/oss-platforms/f/dev-platforms-forum/5316/issue-with-stxr-in-armv8
[10:39] <rafaeldtinoco> cpaelzer: somehow I was expecting a timeout to instruction generating an exception, NMI like
[10:39] <cpaelzer> there it only behaved that way when it was single stepping
[10:39] <rafaeldtinoco> cpaelzer: yep, ive read that
[10:39] <rafaeldtinoco> looks like STLXR has some peculiarities
[10:39] <rafaeldtinoco> and undefined behavior under certain conditions
[10:39] <rafaeldtinoco> but I was expecting some timeout/exception approach
[10:40] <cpaelzer> ok, then a public bug with the manufacturer seems right
[10:40] <rafaeldtinoco> yep, Ill read more about those peculiarities and ask them
[10:40] <rafaeldtinoco> thx
[10:56] <rafaeldtinoco>    0x0000aaaaaabd4108 <+24>:    ldaxr   w1, [x0]
[10:56] <rafaeldtinoco>    0x0000aaaaaabd410c <+28>:    orr     w1, w1, #0x1
[10:56] <rafaeldtinoco> => 0x0000aaaaaabd4110 <+32>:    stlxr   w2, w1, [x0]
[10:56] <rafaeldtinoco> cpaelzer: does it look weird to you
[10:56] <rafaeldtinoco> ORring w1 in between ldaxr and stlxr ?
[10:57] <rafaeldtinoco> x0 is target address, w1 is the value to be written ..
[10:57] <rafaeldtinoco> so nope
[10:57] <rafaeldtinoco> its just a xor of the value read to be written
[10:57] <rafaeldtinoco> nm
[10:58] <rafaeldtinoco> and then a brunch if not success, got this
[11:25] <rafaeldtinoco> omg, armv8 docs have ~4pages for unpredictable errors for ldxar<->stlxr combination
[11:25]  * rafaeldtinoco goes for a coffee
[12:37] <ahasenack> rbasak: hi, we have some php deps in universe again: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#php-defaults
[12:38] <ahasenack> php7.2-dev is in main, for example
[12:59] <rbasak> ahasenack: I think those binary packages are in mismatched components between src:php-defaults and src:php7.3
[12:59] <ahasenack> rbasak: is this the report? https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches
[12:59] <rbasak> ahasenack: if they're moved to match Disco then I think that'll resolve it
[13:00] <ahasenack> if yes, I don't understand its output: it just says "https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches" for php7.3 (src)
[13:00] <rbasak> ahasenack: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed
[13:00] <ahasenack> aha
[13:00]  * ahasenack updates bookmark
[13:01] <rbasak> Both are relevant, but as packages we want are stuck in proposed, the proposed one is needed to make sense of it
[13:01] <ahasenack> looks like they are listed there
[13:23] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: I work on the list of FTBFS sent by doko - do you mind if i grab squid as you usually work on it?
[13:24] <ahasenack> cpaelzer: I have a branch for that already
[13:24] <ahasenack> but maybe your fix is nicer? I'm just dropping that include file, it's not used anymore in that file that failed the build
[13:24] <ahasenack> cpaelzer: https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/squid/+git/squid/+ref/eoan-squid-ftbfs-glibc-230 is my fix
[13:24] <ahasenack> I wanted to wait a bit for an upstream comment
[13:25] <ahasenack> ppa at https://launchpad.net/~ahasenack/+archive/ubuntu/squid-ftbfs-glibc-230
[13:34] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: I haven't started on this one yet
[13:34] <cpaelzer> so my branch can't be nicer
[13:34] <cpaelzer> i have done dovecot-antispam (no issue), ipxe (fix in upstream review) and dnsmasq (MP is up for review)
[13:36] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: your fix looks ok to me
[13:36] <cpaelzer> waiting for upstream feedback seems right
[13:36] <cpaelzer> looking for another one in this list then ...
[13:53] <rafaeldtinoco> cpaelzer: i might need to 1:1 w/ you later today (after daily ?)
[13:53] <rafaeldtinoco> want to check if out-of-order have caused this issue
[13:53] <cpaelzer> before would be preferred
[13:53] <rafaeldtinoco> before ?
[13:53] <rafaeldtinoco> 30 min ?
[13:53] <cpaelzer> yes
[13:53] <cpaelzer> ok for me
[13:53] <rafaeldtinoco> good, will ping u tks
[13:53] <cpaelzer> in ~37 from now
[13:53] <rafaeldtinoco> +1
[14:14] <rafaeldtinoco> HA.. I think I found the issue
[14:14] <rafaeldtinoco> #)
[14:14] <rafaeldtinoco> \o/
[14:17] <rafaeldtinoco> cpaelzer: nm on 1:1, ill let u free
[14:17] <rafaeldtinoco> :o) I have to test a few things now
[14:18] <rafaeldtinoco> by re-generating the pkgs so..
[14:18] <cpaelzer> hehe
[14:18] <rafaeldtinoco> wont bother u
[14:18] <cpaelzer> ok
[14:18] <rafaeldtinoco> https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/1805256/comments/14
[14:18] <rafaeldtinoco> if you want to read and review findings
[14:18] <rafaeldtinoco> if it makes sense etc
[14:18] <rafaeldtinoco> but only if you have extra time what you might not
[14:18] <rafaeldtinoco> i think we are missing "volatile" keyword
[14:18] <rafaeldtinoco> for some local variables being read_once()
[14:18] <rafaeldtinoco> :)
[14:18] <rafaeldtinoco> optimization made XOR instruction 0x1 always
[14:18] <rafaeldtinoco> when it might be 0x0
[14:18] <rafaeldtinoco> changed by other thread
[14:27] <enyc> Hrrrrrrrm,  anybody give me a $clue  why  ubuntu's  libgnutls28-dev   in 14/16/18.04 LTS   seems to WORK for modern TLS negotiation with 'tf5' package client built against  libgnutls-openssl-dev  ,  whereas debian's  similar libgnutls28-dev  doesn't work right ....   I may track down EVENUTALYL  but wondered if anybody was aware that ubuntu patched gnutls defaults for openssl-header apps or
[14:27] <enyc> what-have-you! ....
[14:32] <rafaeldtinoco> cpaelzer: does qemu build ok in arm64 ? (ask you because of s390 firmware cross compilation thing)
[14:33] <rafaeldtinoco> how can I bypass the s390 stuff and still generate the builds ?
[14:33] <cpaelzer> rafaeldtinoco: you only need the arch part and not the indep part
[14:33] <cpaelzer> rafaeldtinoco: see the targets in d/rules
[14:33] <rafaeldtinoco> #) alright
[14:33] <rafaeldtinoco> yep yep
[14:33] <rafaeldtinoco> tks
[14:33] <cpaelzer> by design/chance indep today is run on x86 on LP and happens to work
[14:34] <cpaelzer> this and a few other packages would break if that would be different
[14:34] <cpaelzer> which is why the s390x bits use cross compile
[14:34] <rafaeldtinoco> gotcha
[14:34] <cpaelzer> the x86 bits of indep should use cross as well, then they would work everywhere
[14:41] <ahasenack> slashd: hi, is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/net-snmp/+bug/1843032 a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/net-snmp/+bug/1843036 ?
[14:49] <slashd> ahasenack, yeah look like this bug is related to the regression I fixed (now found in -proposed)
[14:50] <ahasenack> slashd: ok, I'll point the user that way
[14:50] <slashd> ahasenack, tks
[15:37] <bryce> vorlon, I gathered from lp #1842969 that the django version should be removed?  I filed #1843355, but wanted to get your confirmation on this course of action before proceeding.
[16:00] <vorlon> bryce: the block-proposed bug was filed to make sure it didn't accidentally make it into the eoan release, but post-eoan we would want the package still be in -proposed so that it can be released once its revdeps are sorted, without there having to be a new version uploaded to unstable
[16:01] <vorlon> ... in practice there has been a new version uploaded to unstable
[16:01] <vorlon> so we could just remove it
[16:01] <vorlon> and close the blocking bug
[16:07] <bryce> vorlon, ok, what can I do to help with removing it?
[16:13] <tpokorra> I am trying to request a sync of mono-complete from Debian unstable to Ubuntu. Now it seems that mono-complete lives from eaon in Universe, but I don't know how to specify that in the requestsync command. I tried: requestsync -d sid mono-complete "eoan universe"
[16:13] <cjwatson> tpokorra: you don't need to specify universe
[16:13] <tpokorra> cjwatson, but it tells me it is a new package then
[16:14] <tpokorra> https://packages.ubuntu.com/de/eoan/mono-complete says it is in universe
[16:14] <cjwatson> shouldn't - what's the full output?
[16:14] <cjwatson> oh, that's a binary package name
[16:14] <cjwatson> requestsync works on source package names
[16:14] <cjwatson> the source package name is 'mono'
[16:14] <cjwatson> tpokorra: ^-
[16:15] <cjwatson> also see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mono/+bug/1841784
[16:15] <cjwatson> ah, though that's for a newer version than is in unstable
[16:15] <tpokorra> cjwatson, yes. your hint with the package name solves my issue
[16:16] <tpokorra> yes I would like to get the latest version from unstable, with a little patch, into Ubuntu
[16:19] <cjwatson> looks like a reasonable set of changes to me
[16:19] <cjwatson> request the sync and I'll ack it
[16:21] <tpokorra> cjwatson, that would be great. somehow it is missing the dfsg-5.changelog, but there is only dfsg-4 in unstable
[16:21] <tpokorra> perhaps I need to wait, it is only since yesterday
[16:21] <cjwatson> tpokorra: it's recent enough that you'll have to wait a bit, yes
[16:21] <tpokorra> ok. I will come back soon :)
[16:22] <tpokorra> thanks you very much for your help, cjwatson!
[16:22] <cjwatson> will work as soon as https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/mono shows -5
[16:35] <tpokorra> cjwatson, it seems that dsfg-4 has already been submitted to branch eoan-proposed. https://code.launchpad.net/~usd-import-team/ubuntu/+source/mono/+git/mono/+ref/ubuntu/eoan-proposed
[16:35] <tpokorra> so is the sync already happening?
[16:35] <doko> sforshee, apw: are riscv64 builds broken with 5.3? LP: #1843458
[16:38] <rbasak> +1 for iptables revert FWIW. It's the job of the distribution to coordinate, and having it move "by accident" and then scramble is hardly coordination.
[16:48] <WoC> Which card would you recommend for OpenCL that has drivers that actually work and won't rape my wallet? pcie x16
[16:53] <ahasenack> cjwatson: hi, openssh showed up in our server page as being stuck in migration:
[16:53] <ahasenack> openssh-server/amd64 unsatisfiable Depends: runit-helper (>= 2.8.14~)
[16:53] <ahasenack> that package is in universe
[16:53] <ahasenack> +               dh-runit (>= 2.8.8), <-- was added in 8.0p1-5
[16:56] <ahasenack> LocutusOfBorg: ^ you synced that from debian this past weekend?
[16:58] <WoC> Captain Picard, greetings;)
[17:01] <LocutusOfBorg> ahasenack, already discussed and MIR opened for runit...
[17:02] <ahasenack> LocutusOfBorg: ok, it showed up in our list at https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#ubuntu-server
[17:02] <ahasenack> LocutusOfBorg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dh-runit/+bug/1843236 right?
[17:14] <Odd_Bloke> WoC: Hi, this channel is for the development of Ubuntu itself, so isn't the right forum for that question.  Perhaps try in #ubuntu?  (I would also ask you to reconsider casual use of language pertaining to sexual assault, as a matter of basic decency.)
[17:14] <WoC> K ty
[17:56] <stgraber> xnox, juliank: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iptables/+bug/1843468
[18:13] <ahasenack> bryce: hi, I just filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fetchmail/+bug/1843474 which affects us too
[18:26] <bryce> ahasenack, ok
[19:09] <juliank> Thanks stgraber
[19:31] <rbasak> I just saw wireguard enter eoan-proposed \o/
[19:39] <sarnold> woot; do you know off-hand if we're getting the kernel config turned on too?
[19:50]  * rbasak doesn't know
[20:14] <ahasenack> bryce: so about that horde error,
[20:14] <ahasenack> I found this:
[20:14] <ahasenack>  /usr/share/php/Horde/Test/Case.php:class Horde_Test_Case extends PHPUnit\Framework\TestCase
[20:14] <ahasenack> that's where that class is being defined
[20:14] <bryce> ahasenack, right
[20:14] <ahasenack> yet I still got
[20:14] <ahasenack>  /tmp/autopkgtest.y3OCQg/phpunit-stderr:PHP Fatal error:  Uncaught Error: Class 'Horde_Test_Case' not found in /tmp/autopkgtest.y3OCQg/build.dRo/real-tree/Horde_Text_Filter-2.3.6/test/Horde/Text/Filter/LinkurlsTest.php:11
[20:15] <bryce> ahasenack, what I found is if I added a require Horde/Test/Case.php; at the top of the file, then that error would be resolved (I guess?)
[20:15] <ahasenack> does this fail with php 7.2?
[20:15] <ahasenack> do we know that?
[20:15] <bryce> ahasenack, however then I got a slew of errors with all the other tests, that Horde_Text_filter not found
[20:16] <bryce> checking...
[20:16]  * ahasenack checks last green
[20:17] <bryce> looks like it has been failing since before the transition
[20:17] <ahasenack> it passed with phpunit 7.5.3
[20:17] <ahasenack> we now have 7.5.6
[20:18] <bryce> yes you're right, phpunit all 7.5.3-1
[20:18] <ahasenack> php-horde-test was the same
[20:19] <ahasenack> 2.6.3+debian0-3ubuntu1
[20:19] <ahasenack> that's what is defining that class
[20:24] <bryce> phpunit_renamed_phpunit_classes.patch has:
[20:24] <bryce> -class Horde_Test_Case extends PHPUnit_Framework_TestCase
[20:24] <bryce> +class Horde_Test_Case extends PHPUnit\Framework\TestCase
[20:26] <bryce> ahasenack, aha think I know what needs done
[20:26] <bryce> (wish we had a better tool for managing trigger tweaks...)
[20:26] <ahasenack> what is it?
[20:27] <ahasenack> and that \ hurts my eyes, no idea what is going on with that replacement
[20:27] <bryce> the \ is php's namespacing mechanism
[20:28] <bryce> so it's moving from a simple class named "PHPUnit_Framework_TestCase" in the top level namespace, to a class called TestCase inside the Framework namespace, which is itself under PHPUnit
[20:30] <bryce> ahasenack, I've queued up -ansel/amd64 to test my theory, if it works I'll rebuild the rest
[20:30] <ahasenack> ok
[20:39] <ahasenack> bryce: by "queued", do you mean uploaded, or added as a test trigger or something?
[20:40] <ahasenack> this thing is failing in debian ci as well
[20:40] <ahasenack> also an error about an unknown class, just not the same one
[20:48] <ahasenack> bryce: the green runs of php-horde-ansel are using libapache2-mod-php7.3, whereas the red one is using libapache2-mod-php7.2
[20:49] <ahasenack> libapache2-mod-php comes from php-defaults
[20:50] <ahasenack> the only red in php-defaults is our friend php-horde-text-filter
[20:59] <bryce> ahasenack, sorry, 'triggered' I suppose is the better term
[21:02] <bryce> ok looks like the test worked, I'll trigger the rest
[21:04] <bryce> interestingly, even though I only ran -ansel/amd64, everything switched to green which is weird, but I think false positive
[21:23] <ahasenack> bryce: hope it's better by tomorrow :)
[21:23] <ahasenack> I'm eod'ing, cya
[21:43] <bryce> cya


[04:39] <TheCoolest[m]> Hey so I don't know if anyone here can help me with this but:
[04:39] <TheCoolest[m]> Sometimes when my laptop display turns off from inactivity, it won't turn back on. The computer is on, but it won't wake back up. I don't know how to consistently replicate the issue, and I don't know what to look for in the logs. Everything I look up shows different issues or similar issues with incompatible fixes.
[04:40] <TheCoolest[m]> Problem with checking the logs is: I don't know how much is being logged from a forced shutdown and how much is from the issue which made me need to force shutdown.
[04:41] <TheCoolest[m]> I know that's not enough info but idk if anyone's here to help, so please give me a mention if you may be willing to help.
[13:33] <guiverc2> TheCoolest[m], Possibly enable `openssh-server` so you can login remotely, and then look at your 'working' system when the laptop display has turned off from inactivity... (ie. you look from another box using it's keyboard/screen remotely).  Assuming you can't switch to text term (ctrl+alt+f4 for example)
[14:32] <guest583> anyone able to verify checksums at http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/ubuntu-dvd/xubuntu/releases/19.10/release/ ?
[14:39] <guest583> disconnecting but will check the logs
[17:42] <TheCoolest[m]> <guiverc2 "TheCoolest, Possibly enable `ope"> guiverc2: Interesting idea, I'll think about it. Thanks.
[21:58] <mp107> Hi, Is there any way to set constant monitor settings (which would never ever be changed on connecting a new monitor, only manually when desired)?
[22:00] <mp107> I mean I would like to still be able to modify those settings in xfce4-display-settings but disable any trials to alter those on connecting a new monitor


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[14:08] <highvoltage> jussi: no sane cow. http://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/moo/
[14:09] <jussi> hehe
[14:09] <jussi> MOO!  Is that published?
[14:20] <highvoltage> alkisg: hmm? I did post a blog entry yesterday about fat clients, yes
[14:20] <alkisg> Just found it, reading...
[14:21] <alkisg> (you mentioned about it in the meeting, but it wasn't published yet at that time)
[14:22] <highvoltage> indeed, I thought you meant that I referred to another post in the post. ok.
[14:22] <alkisg> highvoltage: does that command in your post work? Doesn't it try to install java and fail?
[14:23] <highvoltage> alkisg: it worked here
[14:23] <alkisg> That's why I put the preseeds file in the wiki page... hmm maybe some recent change in the java package then
[14:23] <highvoltage> alkisg: you're referring to the ltsp-build-client command?
[14:23] <alkisg> yup, ltsp-build-client --fat-client --fat-client-desktop edubuntu-desktop --arch i386 --skipimage
[14:23] <alkisg> Ah sorry
[14:24] <alkisg> No that's with ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:24] <alkisg> OK, never mind, it just doesn't install java by default