[00:04] <Yuken> VirtualBox, "Mounting /dev/sda on /media failed"
[00:04] <Yuken> is that baaaaad?
[00:05] <blackflow> yeeeeeees.
[00:05] <llldino> Yuken, You want to mount the partition, like "mount /dev/sdaX where X is the part. number
[00:05] <Yuken> Hooooow should I fix? Ubuntu Server 14.03
[00:05] <Yuken> Install of it, ofc.
[00:06] <k1l_> Yuken: where do you get that message?
[00:06] <Yuken> k1l_, as it is booting when I select "Install Ubuntu Server".
[00:06] <Yuken> I'll reset the machine again to test it.
[00:07] <cryptonit> !ping
[00:07] <Yuken> Select Language, Install Ubuntu Server, Terminal with that message appears. ACPI Probe Failed, as well.
[00:07] <k1l_> Yuken: when you select install? are you sure that .iso is ok? check the md5sum
[00:07] <Yuken> "Unable to mount /dev/sda on /mount; invalid argument"
[00:07] <k1l_> !md5sum
[00:07] <ikonia> you don't mount a disk
[00:07] <ikonia> you mount the partition
[00:07] <Yuken> k1l_, it is a fine iso, yes.
[00:08] <Yuken> ikonia, this is doing it automatically, with the boot device set as ubuntu-server-14.03.iso.
[00:08] <k1l_> Yuken: did you check the .iso or not?
[00:08] <ikonia> sda is not the cdrom device
[00:08] <Yuken> k1l_, yes.
[00:08] <bekks> ikonia: more technically a block device containing a filesystem.
[00:09] <rellis> Anyone aware of any bug surrounding window resizing of chrome (among other apps) in Ubuntu 15.10?
[00:09] <rellis> Chrome seems pickup several graphical glitch artifacts after the window is resized... I can't tell if it's an issue with the ATI driver, or X or Chrome or what
[00:09] <rellis> but Firefox seems fairly normal..
[00:11] <Yuken> I might just try my luck with Lubuntu, downloading an ISO of it anyway.
[00:14] <zamabe> ikonia: I filesystem what I want! /dev/sds stands for Steam Does Stuff! :p
[00:14] <ikonia> zamabe: what ?
[00:15] <zamabe> ikonia: ignore, am being ridiculous.
[00:15] <zamabe> "You don't mount a disk"
[00:16] <bekks> zamabe: Oh, you do, as long as it contains a filesystem.
[00:16] <zamabe> bekks: was going for the "I do what I want" meme more than technical accuracy
[00:17] <zamabe> but, yes, that
[00:18] <bekks> zamabe: Not in the mood for occasional jokes, struggling an Oracle APEX issue here ;)
[00:18] <zamabe> I didn't address it to you, so have fun with your own mood
[00:19] <bekks> zamabe: No offense meant.
[00:19] <rellis> Anyone know of any documented 15.10 issue that might cause GTK+ apps to glitch badly after the window is resized?
[00:19] <ikonia> why not look on launcpad.net
[00:19] <ikonia> launchpad.net
[00:19] <rellis> ikonia: I did, I just havent dug anything up.
[00:19] <ikonia> thats where it will be documented
[00:20] <rellis> right, there's just about a hundred million bugs to sift through =p ... i thought maybe someone here had encountered a similar issue
[00:21] <rellis> I'm also not sure it's specific to GTK+ and not an ATI driver issue.
[00:24] <csmule> a consumer is asking for the wrong offset due to data loss of a topic. ANd it's crashing kafka. What's the fix?
[00:24] <bekks> whats kafka?
[00:24] <rellis> a queue
[00:24] <rellis> also this isnt the kafka channel =p
[00:25] <csmule> my bad. :) hehe.  Wrong group.
[00:29] <ChiLLabiS_> Hi! I've recently installed a new motherboard and a new cpu and now i can't boot up the ubuntu desktop amd64 version. Sometimes i get a weird error  with some symbols and sometimes i get something like this: ignoring bgrt invalid status 0 (expected 1)
[00:30] <ChiLLabiS_> i've tried ubuntu 15.10 and 14.XX LTS.
[00:31] <ChiLLabiS_> i can't boot and install Debian either then i get an ata7:00 emask blabla something CommSleep etc frozen.
[00:31] <sebsebseb> hi
[00:32] <ChiLLabiS_> it says it's trying to hardreset but nothing happends
[00:32] <ChiLLabiS_> hi sebsebseb
[00:32] <sebsebseb> ChiLLabiS_: hi
[00:38] <noorani> hi
[00:38] <ChiLLabiS> Hi noorani
[00:39] <noorani> recently i was unable to start my pc
[00:39] <noorani> in boot option i was sirected to grub prompt
[00:39] <noorani> i want 2 knw y?
[00:41] <bencc> ubuntu 15.10 is using systemd instead of upstart?
[00:41] <sebsebseb> bencc: yes
[00:41] <bencc> sebsebseb: thanks
[00:42] <sebsebseb> noorani: what does it say on the grub prompt
[00:43] <eikon81g> ChiLLabiS, what is your sata setting on?
[00:43] <eikon81g> in bios
[00:43] <sebsebseb> bencc: whhy?
[00:43] <eikon81g> try using achi
[00:44] <eikon81g> are you using a usb to install? ChiLLabiS
[00:44] <nchambers> two questions: how can I install openssl with apt-get, and since I'm assuming apt-get will invoke a c compiler to build it, how do I tell apt-get which compiler to use
[00:44] <ChiLLabiS> don't know, haven't checked eikon81g . i've just plugged in everything and everything else went good. I haven't touched the bios settings yet
[00:44] <ChiLLabiS> yes i'm using a usbstick
[00:44] <ChiLLabiS> it have worked before on the previous computer
[00:44] <eikon81g> ChiLLabiS, go to your bios and change the boot order to USB first then set your sata mode to achi
[00:45] <eikon81g> ChiLLabiS, are you going to be doing a clean install?
[00:45] <ChiLLabiS> eikon81g, i'm pressing down F8 so i get the boot menu. From there i choose the usb stick. I get the first loading screen with that wierd picture in the bottom centre
[00:46] <ChiLLabiS> I'm going to do a clean install yes
[00:46] <eikon81g> how did you make the usb installer?
[00:46] <ChiLLabiS> Rufus
[00:46] <ChiLLabiS> I used Rufus
[00:46] <ChiLLabiS> have worked before
[00:46] <eikon81g> right..
[00:47] <eikon81g> so when you boot of the usb it starts getting goofy? Is the graphics card integrated or are you using an actual card?
[00:47] <ChiLLabiS> i'm doing a new image on the usb stick. I'm coing to take a picture on the error screen. It's too wierd to describe
[00:47] <Bashing-om> nchambers:  openssl is installed by default "ii  openssl        1.0.1f-1ubun amd64        Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - cr" and from the repo one obtains a binary, no comping is required .
[00:47] <ChiLLabiS> Yeah everything works great in windows
[00:47] <nchambers> oh sweet
[00:48] <ChiLLabiS> going*
[00:48] <eikon81g> ok, that's odd.. are you sure the usb stick is in good working order?
[00:48] <ChiLLabiS> how do i check that?
[00:49] <ChiLLabiS> i'm going to reboot and take the picture. brb
[00:49] <eikon81g> well have you had any issues with it? did you format it before trying to create the installation in RufuS
[00:49] <bencc> sebsebseb: I need to create a python daemon. so I probably need systemd for that
[00:49] <bencc> not sure
[00:49] <bencc> maybe there are other simpler tools
[00:52] <sebsebseb> bencc: oh ok I guess
[00:55] <ChiLLabiS> Okay i'm back
[00:55] <ChiLLabiS> i get this wierd error message
[00:55] <ChiLLabiS> http://www.tomtenizze.se/download.lulz?did=645&file=IMG_0006.JPG
[00:55] <nchambers> ok new question after some googling... I've got GCC5.3.0 that I built from source and is on my path as <progname>-5.3.0 (so for example, gcc-5.3.0) (but not where the system gcc sits). I want to build python 2.7.11 (and 3.4.0) from source. I can do it fine on my system, but it doesn't have extra packages like tls/ssl support or ncurses. so if I were to sudo apt-get install libssl-dev libncursesw5-dev etc, is there anything special I would
[00:55] <nchambers> have to do for my compiler to find it/python to build with it
[00:57] <sarink> can anyone tell me how to troubleshoot this issue?   http://<IP_ADDRESS>  gives me "connection refused"    ifconfig shows my local ip is <IP_ADDRESS> .... navigating to http://localhost works just fine. all firewalls are off. traceroute <IP_ADDRESS> shows 1 hop, to my laptop, so i know it's definitely the right ip
[00:58] <Guest302> Hi- My brother helped me get to this site.. he said it was like apple support for Linux.. and now my Linux is acting really weird, and I need help. But..  I don't know how to describe the problem too well, but I guess I have a question that might help. Is there a way to do a system restore on linux?
[01:01] <sarink> llldino: well, uh, im actually on osx (im trying to ultimately get http://my-ip to point to my ubuntu VM, though) - like i said if i go to http://localhost, it works (i've used pf to forward port 80 to the guest vm)
[01:01] <sarink> llldino: so, there are no 'iptables' on osx, is where i was doing with that
[01:01] <sebsebseb> Guest302: hi
[01:01] <Guest302> hi.
[01:01] <sebsebseb> Guest302: oh a new user to Ubuntu/Linux not so technical ok :),  I used to help loads of people like you before
[01:02] <sarink> llldino: there's ipfw?
[01:02] <sarink> or pfctl
[01:02] <sebsebseb> Guest302: I hae used pal talk in Windows
[01:02] <llldino> sarink, Okay, so on your Ubuntu VM, is iptables diabled? By default iptables blocks incoming tx
[01:03] <sebsebseb> Guest302: before not in Linux, but yes I know waht Paltalk is
[01:03] <sebsebseb> Guest302: what's the link to Paltalk Express?
[01:03] <llldino> sarink, If not, you'd have to forward port 80 (or whatever) on any firewall you have on your ubuntu vm
[01:03] <Guest302> http://express.paltalk.com/
[01:04] <sebsebseb> Guest302: I used to use the old real Pal Talk program a bit in Windows, many many many years back
[01:04] <sebsebseb> Guest302: got baned from some of there rooms even back then heh, but I was really young back then to
[01:04] <sarink> llldino: if i change it to port 5000, it works.
[01:04] <Guest302> Well, you know how people talk on the mic? Well, on my system it won't let me hear mic talkers.
[01:04] <sarink> llldino: what would i run on the ubuntu side to do that?
[01:05] <sebsebseb> Guest302: somethng came up on the site, do I need a user name and passwrod to try it, hmm I guess so
[01:05] <Guest302> Would you like me to make you a nic?
[01:05] <Guest302> just to use as a guinnie pig?
[01:06] <llldino> sarink, Can I see the output of "sudo iptables -L"? You can PM me, I wouldn't share that pubicly
[01:06] <sebsebseb> I could make my own account,  kind of wanted to maybe play with pal talk again anyway
[01:06] <sebsebseb> not sure how Linux friendly it will be or not though
[01:06] <sebsebseb> I guess time to find out then :d or get an idea
[01:06] <sebsebseb> I have a feeling it will sti be made for Windows and Mac really, maybe even Android these days
[01:06] <Guest302> Well, there's no way to download it, but you can go through the express.
[01:07] <teward> Guest302: I would reach out to their support - if it's not working on Linux it's possible you're missing plugins is all
[01:07] <sebsebseb> many years ago Paltalk was a downloadable program for Windows etc, but I guess that might hae changed
[01:07] <sebsebseb> indeed to what teward put
[01:07] <sebsebseb> or maybe some issues with pulseaudio or something
[01:07] <sarink> llldino: huh, it appears..... there's no iptables on my vm. i built a bare ubuntu 14 box. is it not installed by default
[01:07] <Guest302> what's a plugin?
[01:07] <teward> Guest302: but, we're not really going to be able to give much insight to why something not under your or ours control is not working anymore (you're not being specific about "not working" anywhere, so we can't really begin to guess the problem)
[01:07] <sebsebseb> Guest302: pal talk express is rooms like bfore I guess
[01:07] <llldino> sarink, You ran that as root right?
[01:08] <sebsebseb> teward: I think the issue is that the microphone doesn't work on pal talk express
[01:08] <sarink> llldino: yeah, "sudo: iptables: command not found"
[01:08] <sebsebseb> teward:but yes it might be made more for Windows etc, I'll take a look
[01:08] <Guest302> Oh okay, thank you for all your help, though.
[01:09] <sebsebseb> Guest302: I am currently on Ubuntu myself, I have most of the correct standard things installed Flash and blbah de blah
[01:09] <teward> sebsebseb: never got my mic to work for Google Hangouts either heh.  That seems to be a Flash issue though
[01:09] <teward> sebsebseb: regardless, we're still limited in troubleshooting
[01:09] <Guest302> sebsebseb: I think Linux is too hard for me; I dunno.
[01:10] <sebsebseb> Guest302: I know my microphone that's an internal one in the PC, I know it can work with other things.  I'll try pal talk express, but yeah it's just chatrooms like before I guess?
[01:10] <sebsebseb> Guest302: no Linux will be fie it's just sometiems....
[01:10] <sebsebseb> Linux will be fine it's just sommetimes....
[01:10] <sebsebseb> Guest302: some things don't quite work like Windows let's put it that way, but it's not Linuxes fault
[01:10] <Guest302> sebsebseb: yeah, it is. The problem isn't my mic. I just can't hear anyone else talking on mic.
[01:10] <Guest302> It's not Linux, haha. It's me.
[01:11] <sebsebseb> nah your microphone m ay need some configuring for Ubuntu
[01:11] <sebsebseb> depending on what microphone etc
[01:11] <sebsebseb> does it work with anything else in Ubuntu saying that?
[01:12] <sebsebseb> oh and hearing others would be the spakers really,  but yes your sound may need some configuring in genral in Ubuntu, depends
[01:12] <Guest302> I don't know- I can use everything else regularly.
[01:12] <Guest302> How do I configure it
[01:12] <Guest302> ?
[01:12] <sebsebseb> Guest302: this isn't for configuring, but would be rather for testing recording sound and then hearing it back,  if you installed audacity for example and tried, it works?
[01:13] <Guest302> I've never tried. I don't know how to install things.
[01:13] <Guest302> My brother usually does that for me.
[01:13] <sebsebseb> Guest302: your that new I undersatnd
[01:13] <sebsebseb> Guest302: I could tell from your first message that you didn't know that much about this yet
[01:13] <waters33637> dmesg .. might help you see if your sound card comes up
[01:13] <Guest302> Yeah, I'm really new. My windows I guess corrupted, and my brother fixed my laptop by putting Linux in it.
[01:13] <sebsebseb> waters33637: they won't know about dmesg though I mean undersatnd the output I guess
[01:14]  * sebsebseb the really not so technical ones used to be the most fun ones to help, when I used to do a lot of Ubuntu support :d
[01:14] <sebsebseb> only here in the moment since I wanted to waste sojme time whilst finishhing listening to something :d
[01:14] <sebsebseb> Guest302: ok do you have the password for Ubuntu?
[01:15] <Guest302> I know my password. I feel bad, if you don't really feel like helping, I can fix the issue later-
[01:15] <sebsebseb> the log in password
[01:15] <sebsebseb> Guest302: o I want to help, don't get  me wrong what I just put
[01:15] <Guest302> My log in password, yeah. I know that.
[01:15] <sebsebseb> Guest302: ok don't tell any of us your log ihn password, only you need to know that and your brother
[01:16] <sebsebseb> however
[01:16] <Guest302> Okay. Yeah, I wouldn't have done that.
[01:16] <sebsebseb> you have two ways to install software
[01:16] <sebsebseb> the graphiacl Ubuntu software centre or  the terminal
[01:16] <nicomachus> Guest302: imagine the Software Center as an "app store", like Google Play or the iTunes App Store.
[01:17] <sebsebseb> yep to what nicomachus put
[01:17] <Guest302> Oooo okay.
[01:17] <sebsebseb> Guest302: and the terminal is where you put commands,  which your probably not uwsed to from Windows, but can do that a bit in Windows even run comands
[01:18] <sebsebseb> Guest302: commands to tell the computer/Ubuntu/Linux what to do
[01:18] <Guest302> Yeah, I saw my brother open the terminal. Coding came up.
[01:18] <sebsebseb> Guest302: Graphical can be nice, but is a bit slower to really any of the graphical programs such as the Ubuntu software centre, because got to do a lot of clicking around to do  proper things with that
[01:19] <sebsebseb> Guest302:  but yes you could find audacity in that, or you could open up the terminal and put in this command: sudo apt-get install audacity
[01:19] <sebsebseb> it should then ask for password, put that in, and then it should just download and insstall it, just like that
[01:20] <Guest302> well, how do I find audacity?
[01:20] <sebsebseb> Guest302: oh and you just installed your first prograam yourself into Ubuntu then, since you said your brother had done it all so far otherwise
[01:20] <sebsebseb> only in the software centre you would have to find it, by looking around for it,  in the terminal it will just download and install it
[01:20] <Guest302> okay.
[01:21] <sebsebseb> Guest302: try the terminal it's more fun and better that way :)
[01:21] <sebsebseb> and faster
[01:22] <Guest302> Something weird came up
[01:22] <Guest302> [katrina:/home/katrina] $ sudo apt-get audacity
[01:22] <Guest302> [sudo] password for katrina:
[01:22] <Guest302> E: Invalid operation audacity
[01:22] <Guest302> ⏚ [katrina:/home/katrina] 4s 100 $
[01:22] <sebsebseb> Guest302: but yes thousands of programs are available for easy dowload and install,  via  terminal or software centre
[01:22] <sebsebseb> Guest302: that's  ok you nearly got it
[01:23] <triac> in arch linux there is AUR. why there is nothing as good for PPAs on ubuntu?
[01:23] <sebsebseb> Guest302: the command was slihgtly wrong katriina
[01:23] <sebsebseb> katrina
[01:23] <Guest302> what was wrong with it?
[01:23] <sebsebseb> Guest302: need the install in that.  sudo apt-get install audacity
[01:24] <Guest302> wait- it's all freaking out now. It's going crazy with text
[01:24] <sebsebseb> Guest302: in  Windows  there's a sound recorder by default, which is okish, but yeah I thik Ubuntu used to have sojmething like that
[01:24] <nicomachus> Guest302: that's good.
[01:25] <sebsebseb> Guest302: it will need to put on some dependances
[01:25] <sebsebseb> Guest302: it should come up with stuff
[01:25] <Guest302> It stopped saying unknown media
[01:25] <sebsebseb> Guest302: you can show us the terminal out put,  but don't flood the channel with it, you can put on http://pastebin.com and give a link to it
[01:26] <sebsebseb> Guest302: copy and paste yeah
[01:26] <sebsebseb> !pastebin
[01:26] <Guest302> I'm sorry.. I'm confused.
[01:26] <Guest302> It stopped a bit.
[01:27] <sebsebseb> Guest302: did it ask if you wanted to install aaudacity?
[01:27] <Guest302> yeah, I said y
[01:27] <sebsebseb> yep sounds like it worked :)
[01:27] <sebsebseb> then it won't put ohn much for audaicty
[01:27] <Guest302> Okay, so now what?
[01:27] <sebsebseb> did it saay somethihng like downloading from us. archeive.ubuntu ?
[01:27] <Guest302> No?
[01:28] <sebsebseb> Guest302: ok what did it have after the y, but it seems to have worked :)
[01:28] <nicomachus> Guest302: easiest way to find out is to type "audacity" into your terminal now
[01:28] <sebsebseb> nicomachus: yeah I was about to say
[01:28] <Guest302> It wnt all code-ish and now it stopped
[01:28] <sebsebseb> yep sounds like it has worked :)
[01:28] <nicomachus> Guest302: that wasn't code... but I understand what you mean.
[01:28] <sebsebseb> now type audacity and hit enter like nicomachus put
[01:28] <Guest302> It opened
[01:28] <Yuken> "code-ish" heh. Guest302, that is not code; just a bunch of commands and information flying past :p
[01:28] <sebsebseb> Yuken: yeah, but they are new to this
[01:29] <sebsebseb> totally new
[01:29] <Guest302> That's.. isn't that code? o.o
[01:29] <ChiLLabiS> How do i retrieve an error-logfile from a live usb that doen't boot?
[01:29] <nicomachus> no it's not.
[01:29] <Yuken> Guest302, code is what makes up programs, essentially.
[01:29] <ChiLLabiS> im in windows
[01:29] <sebsebseb> Guest302: it's command stuff
[01:29] <nicomachus> ChiLLabiS: it doesn't boot at all?
[01:29] <sebsebseb> Guest302: but can also code in a terminal like what we got open there, but that's another topic :d
[01:29] <ChiLLabiS> get and error message
[01:29] <ChiLLabiS> http://www.tomtenizze.se/download.lulz?did=645&file=IMG_0006.JPG
[01:29] <nolsen> Is there a way to spoof my MAC address every time I connect to an interface, automatically?
[01:30] <ChiLLabiS> weirdest i've seen
[01:30] <nolsen> With a randomized MAC address on each connect.
[01:30] <nicomachus> ChiLLabiS: I'm not going to download an image. You can upload it to Imgur or describe it.
[01:30] <ChiLLabiS> fine i'll check up imgur
[01:30] <nicomachus> nolsen: https://askubuntu.com/questions/390147/how-to-change-the-mac-address-of-pc
[01:30] <sebsebseb> Guest302: congratulatios you installed your first program successfully into Ubuntu yourself :)
[01:30] <ChiLLabiS> nicomachus, http://i.stack.imgur.com/nugdV.jpg
[01:31] <Guest302> Thank you for helping.
[01:31] <sebsebseb> Guest302: however
[01:31] <sebsebseb> Guest302: now let's find out if your microphone works with audacity
[01:31] <sebsebseb> and  if you can play that back ok or ot
[01:31] <sebsebseb> not
[01:31] <nicomachus> ChiLLabiS: that's not an error code... is that USB an Ubuntu live USB?
[01:31] <nolsen> nicomachus: That doesn't explain how to have it randomize on each connect.
[01:31] <Guest302> It does. I played it back.
[01:32] <sebsebseb> Guest302: ok that's good :)
[01:32] <Guest302> well, does that mean that paltalk express just doesn't workthrough linux?
[01:32] <ChiLLabiS> it's from this image: ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[01:32] <ChiLLabiS> i've used Rufus to get it on to the usbstick
[01:32] <sebsebseb> Guest302: but  pal talk express still has aan issue right yeah, so uhmm hold on I'll take a look at it now
[01:32] <nicomachus> ChiLLabiS: ok, did you do an md5 checksum on it after creating the USB?
[01:33] <ChiLLabiS> nope, i've redownloaded the image though
[01:33] <nicomachus> !md5 | ChiLLabiS do this
[01:33] <sebsebseb> Guest302: taking a guess it's more made for Widows and Mac's and not really for Linux, but that doesn't neasirely mean it wont' work with Linux
[01:34] <sebsebseb> Guest302: do you have Windows still on there by the way,  or did your brother make you go Linux only :d ?
[01:34] <nolsen> nicomachus: That doesn't explain how to have it randomize on each connect.
[01:34] <Guest302> I don't know what that means- Windows would blue screen, and it doesn't do that anymore.
[01:34] <ChiLLabiS> !md5
[01:35] <sebsebseb> Guest302: oh I see he got you using Linux, sisnce viruses and things like that in Windows I guess
[01:35] <sebsebseb> Guest302: but can actsaully have Windows stil lon a computer whilst having Linux
[01:36] <Guest302> Wait.. Like.. Does it run like a half and half sort of thing? I bet I could do that.
[01:36] <nicomachus> it can
[01:36] <nolsen> ...
[01:36] <sebsebseb> Guest302: Linux only is good, but sometiems might need Windwos for some specific program
[01:36] <nolsen> Is there a way to spoof my MAC address every time I connect to an interface, automatically? (with a randomized MAC address on each connect)
[01:37] <sebsebseb> Guest302: since Wine wasn't good enough,  and yeah
[01:37] <nicomachus> nolsen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AnonymizingNetworkMACAddresses
[01:37] <Guest302> Wine?
[01:37] <sebsebseb> !wine
[01:37] <smartp0wn> wine rlz.........
[01:38] <sebsebseb> smartp0wn: you think?
[01:38] <sebsebseb> Guest302: bear with me, I am going to sing up for paltalk express and see what happens
[01:38] <sebsebseb> sign
[01:38] <smartp0wn> sebsebseb, it had saved my ass a few times!
[01:38] <sebsebseb> what do you use Wine for?
[01:38] <Guest302> take your time
[01:39] <smartp0wn> sebsebseb, like... for multiplatform devel
[01:39] <sebsebseb> using what?
[01:39] <smartp0wn> sebsebseb, there are better solutions nowadays but I like Wine simplicity
[01:40] <smartp0wn> sebsebseb, you name it
[01:40] <sebsebseb> it's ok for running  the occasional WIndows program that wroks with it yeah
[01:40] <ChiLLabiS> nicomachus, the md5 is the same
[01:40] <nicomachus> wine discussions can be had in #winehq or #ubuntu-offtopic. That is not on-topic here.
[01:40] <sebsebseb> nicomachus: indeed
[01:40] <nicomachus> ChiLLabiS: ok good. Are you sure your BIOS is selecting the USB to boot from?
[01:41] <ChiLLabiS> i'm pressing F8 to get into the mobo's Boot menu
[01:41] <ChiLLabiS> from there i choose the usb
[01:41] <nicomachus> ok, and then selecting USB?
[01:41] <ChiLLabiS> yes
[01:41] <nicomachus> good. and then you get that "error"?
[01:41] <sebsebseb> Guest302: pal talk expresses uses flash, well the log in screen, so that means going to have to have flash always up to date enough for it, be that Linux/Ubuntu or WIndows
[01:41] <ChiLLabiS> yes
[01:41] <sebsebseb> Guest302: about to signn up for an actual acount on it though as I said I would
[01:41] <Guest302> So how do I do flash?
[01:42] <sebsebseb> Guest302: well I assume you already have it installed if something came up on your link?
[01:42] <nicomachus> ChiLLabiS: alright. do you have another machine you can try to boot it from just to verify the USB works?
[01:42] <Guest302> yeah. :)
[01:42] <ChiLLabiS> nope. I did use it to install windows 10 on this computer earlier today
[01:43] <ChiLLabiS> if i could retrieve the error-log somehow so i can post it on Askubuntu
[01:43] <ChiLLabiS> ..
[01:44] <IceNine> hey all, need some help setting up an ssh connection to my ubuntu box with keys and no pass (server keeps refusing my key) - i'm following steps here - http://linoxide.com/ubuntu-how-to/setup-passwordless-ssh-logon-ubuntu-14-04/ and here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring#disable-password-authentication ; sshd_config content - https://pastee.org/p3ydx
[01:44] <nicomachus> ChiLLabiS: without actually booting it, there will be no log...
[01:45] <IceNine> any help is appreciated, i'm not sure what i'm missing
[01:45] <sebsebseb> Guest302: yay security code thing that isn't liked,  the uh hold on  a little issue trying to sign up on it
[01:45] <ChiLLabiS> hmm. i do get access to grub if i reset the computer and just let it load
[01:45] <ChiLLabiS> can i do something from there?
[01:46] <Guest302> you don't have to if it's a pain in the neck- I'm sure it'll fix itself, maybe.
[01:46] <EriC^^> IceNine: what's the perms on ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[01:47] <nicomachus> ChiLLabiS: you get grub? you told me it wouldn't boot at all
[01:47] <IceNine> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 741 Jan 11 17:04 /home/barry/.ssh/authorized_keys
[01:47] <IceNine> @ eric^^
[01:47] <IceNine> i need to chown that to my user don't i?
[01:48] <sebsebseb> Guest302: uh it's not liking the security ccode on there, een though what I put in is correct
[01:48] <ChiLLabiS> well it's get's to that picture with the man and the keyboard whatever it is and after that i get the error message. If i reset the computer and let it loads i have grub
[01:48] <Guest302> So, it's probably a paltalk thing. they'll probably fix it soon enough.
[01:48] <sebsebseb> Guest302: no they probably won't actually if it's there  issue
[01:48] <ChiLLabiS> but the "Try live-Ubuntu" or "Installing Ubuntu" doesn't work
[01:49] <sebsebseb> Guest302: they won't care about Linux, not enough market share
[01:49] <ChiLLabiS> well i get another error message then
[01:49] <sebsebseb> Guest302: on the desktop standard computers
[01:49] <nicomachus> ChiLLabiS: is this old hardware or anything?
[01:49] <Guest302> Why isn't Linux a bigger thing?
[01:49] <nicomachus> Guest302: we all ask that every dya
[01:49] <nicomachus> day*
[01:49] <ChiLLabiS> like this:  Ignoring bgrt invalid status 0 (expected 1)
[01:49] <sebsebseb> Guest302: good question
[01:49] <ChiLLabiS> I've newly bought a new motherboard and a cpu
[01:49] <sebsebseb> Guest302: I think since not enough people actsaully care enough about tech to find out more about it
[01:50] <ChiLLabiS> it's new stuff in the can
[01:50] <sebsebseb> and Microsoft and APple are massive players
[01:50] <nicomachus> ChiLLabiS: ok. I've never seen those errors before, but checking around.
[01:50] <Guest302> I wish I was knowledgeable enough, I'd keep and use Linux. But- I'm just not. I failed my Java class.
[01:51] <ChiLLabiS> is it possible to get to the error log if i can get to grub?
[01:51] <sebsebseb> Guest302: you can keep it
[01:51] <Gallomimia> ChiLLabiS: oh i had this problem. you'll need to tweak mobo settings regarding legacy boot, non windows boot, and efi
[01:51] <sebsebseb> Guest302: just you might still need Windows for the occasiohanl program or two
[01:51] <sebsebseb> but can have both :)
[01:51] <ChiLLabiS> okay! New spark for me :)
[01:51] <ChiLLabiS> So what should be on and off?
[01:51] <ChiLLabiS> Gallomimia,
[01:52] <Gallomimia> i can't tell you the exact config you need, because i just tweaked em until something worked
[01:52] <sebsebseb> Guest302: in general Linux distributiosn are better to use though, more secure etc, viruses etc not reall an issue as such etc
[01:52] <Gallomimia> but i usually left it in efi then legacy mode
[01:52] <Gallomimia> and obviously non-windows OS needs enable. each mobo is different tho
[01:52] <EriC^^> IceNine: try to chown them first and set them to chmod 600
[01:52] <Guest302> well, thank you so much for your time.
[01:53] <EriC^^> chown <user>: ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[01:53] <sebsebseb> Guest302: I tried to private message you, did you get it?
[01:53] <nolsen> nicomachus: That doesn't work.
[01:53] <ChiLLabiS> well i'll do the opposite settings then it should do something i guess
[01:53] <Umeaboy> sebsebseb: Hi! Long time no seen. :)
[01:53] <ChiLLabiS> thanks for the help
[01:53] <ChiLLabiS> gonna try this
[01:53] <ChiLLabiS> brb
[01:54] <IceNine> @eric^^ - did that, do i need to sudo service ssh restart? - -rw------- 1 barry barry 741 Jan 11 17:04 /home/barry/.ssh/authorized_keys (same error btw)
[01:54] <Gallomimia> shouldn't need restart.
[01:54] <Gallomimia> check also the permissions on .ssh
[01:55] <IceNine> what should it be on .ssh?
[01:55] <Umeaboy> Anyone got both time and will to help me out with an extremely huge task?
[01:55] <Umeaboy> It's easy, but takes a loooooong time.
[01:56] <Gallomimia> Umeaboy: i might be inclined, if i could get the same :) trying to fix a boot problem for over 3 weeks now
[01:56] <nicomachus> Umeaboy: ask the question.
[01:56] <IceNine> gallomimia - .ssh permissions https://pastee.org/y7pue
[01:56] <Umeaboy> Gallomimia: I scratch your back if you scratch mine. :)
[01:57] <Gallomimia> IceNine: nope. the permissions of the directory itself. add the -d option to your command
[01:57] <Umeaboy> Gallomimia: PM?
[01:57] <nicomachus> !pm
[01:57] <Gallomimia> as nicomachus said...
[01:57] <Gallomimia> !ask
[01:57] <IceNine> doh - gallomimia - here it is - https://pastee.org/y7pue
[01:57] <IceNine> ack!
[01:57] <IceNine> drwxrwxr-x 2 barry barry 4096 Jan 11 17:10 /home/barry/.ssh
[01:58] <Oi-Eu-Sou-Goku> hi
[01:58] <sebsebseb> oh Umeaboy is here hmm
[01:58] <Umeaboy> hehe. I know. Just trying to get off-topic chat in a PM window.
[01:58] <Gallomimia> hm. should be fine
[01:58] <EriC^^> IceNine: is this on the server?
[01:58] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy: so you gone back to Ubuntu :d
[01:58] <Gallomimia> IceNine: looks like its not the problem
[01:58] <Umeaboy> But here it goes.....
[01:58] <Umeaboy> sebsebseb: Well, on an off. Just like a light switch.
[01:58] <Techspectre> Is there a way to use Unity style overlay scrollbars in Gnome?
[01:59] <Gallomimia> IceNine: ah a good point. is it on the computer you're trying ssh to?
[01:59] <IceNine> eric^^ , gallomimia - yes it is
[01:59] <EriC^^> the server and client are the same pc?
[01:59] <IceNine>  no
[02:00] <xangua> Techspectre: you should be able to install it, but soon unity will use gnome own overlay scrollbars
[02:00] <coraxx> Hello everyone.  Here's my question --> How does one create in Ubuntu a virtual USB Flash Drive (mounted as a virtual USB device) ?
[02:00] <IceNine> server is my PC - client is remote
[02:00] <Gallomimia> that seems strange
[02:00] <Umeaboy> coraxx: Install the extpack for Virtualbox at first.
[02:00] <EriC^^> IceNine: so on the client he has his private key that is linked to the public key you added in authorized_keys on the server?
[02:00] <IceNine> i even copied the setup from my laptop setup that does work
[02:00] <IceNine> yes
[02:01] <coraxx> Umeaboy: already done :-)
[02:01] <Umeaboy> Then make sure your user is added to the vboxusers group.
[02:01] <EriC^^> IceNine: try ssh -vvv user@host
[02:01] <coraxx> Umeaboy: also already done :-)
[02:01] <IceNine> what does vvv do?
[02:01] <Gallomimia> IceNine: transmitting private keys over any network is not really recommended
[02:01] <EriC^^> verbose
[02:01] <EriC^^> ^3
[02:01] <Gallomimia> tells you more info 3x
[02:01] <IceNine> k
[02:02] <Umeaboy> coraxx: Is the guestadditions iso installed as well?
[02:02] <Umeaboy> http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.0.10/VBoxGuestAdditions_5.0.10.iso for example.
[02:02] <IceNine> gallomimia - what's the recommended way?
[02:02] <Gallomimia> do not transmit private keys.
[02:02] <Gallomimia> ever.
[02:02] <Gallomimia> one private key per machine
[02:03] <Gallomimia> at least, this is what i recommend
[02:03] <IceNine> so how do you "phone home", so to speak, remotely
[02:03] <Gallomimia> i guess wired LANs might be safe enough to transmit your keys over, but the question of "why" comes up. key-per-machine is easier to manage later
[02:04] <Gallomimia> um.... what?
[02:04] <coraxx> Umeaboy: yes... but that is not relevant... so I think you have misunderstood my question ...your answer(s) suggest that I asked "how to mount a _real_ usb device in virtualbox" ...which I didn't...I asked "how to _create_ a virtual USB Device of type Flash Drive)
[02:04] <Umeaboy> I use Ubuntu 15.10 to build a working image for Sailfish OS to my Sony Xperia Z3 Compact Tablet (a.k.a Scorpion) and I'm using their HADK (Hardware Adaptation Development Kit) which can be found here: http://www.sailfishos.org/hadk
[02:04] <IceNine> let's say you are remote and want to connect back to your home pc - without transmitting your private key, how do you connect?
[02:04] <IceNine> no password, just ssh with key
[02:05] <Gallomimia> we're assuming that your "remote" system is your laptop. which already has your private key on it?
[02:05] <ubernets> Where can I upload error messages?
[02:05] <Umeaboy> coraxx: Close down the VM and check the USB settings for the VM.
[02:05] <Gallomimia> ubernets: you could use pastebinit
[02:05] <Gallomimia> !pastebinit | ubernets
[02:06] <coraxx> Umeaboy: uhmm ...check for what exactly ?
[02:06] <IceNine> gallomimia - yes
[02:06] <Gallomimia> IceNine: also, am i to gather that you've got valuable ssh keys floating around out there that aren't encrypted? so i could just grab them and use them without a passphrase?
[02:06] <Umeaboy> Now.............. as I prefer to narrow it down and making it possible to copy and paste every row one at a time I'd like some help into finish what I've done so far.
[02:06] <IceNine> gallomimia - whoa whoa, no passphrase?
[02:06] <guest|32835> To all of you, that are hitting on Guest302, would you please not?
[02:07] <Gallomimia> IceNine: create your private key on the laptop, transmit your public key to the homeserver. use as needed
[02:07] <IceNine> let's not get crazy here
[02:07] <nicomachus> guest|32835: who is doing that?
[02:07] <Umeaboy> Gallomimia: Can you help me with that?
[02:07] <nicomachus> guest|32835: please report that in #ubuntu-ops immediately.
[02:07] <Umeaboy> I have started and progressed alot.
[02:07] <Umeaboy> http://pastebin.com/KN7j4UvD
[02:07] <OerHeks> guest|32835, wrong channel
[02:07] <Umeaboy> I have started to update it with the content from the latest HADK.
[02:07] <Gallomimia> Umeaboy: copy and paste 1 row at a time? sounds like the job for a script.
[02:08] <Umeaboy> Gallomimia: Yeah, there is a sfa-mer script, but currently there is no repo for my model.
[02:08] <Oi-Eu-Sou-Goku> anyone speak portuguese?
[02:08] <Umeaboy> So I have to use the HADK to build it step by step.
[02:08] <EriC^^> !pr
[02:08] <Gallomimia> !pr | Oi-Eu-Sou-Goku
[02:08] <Gallomimia> aw
[02:08] <EriC^^> !pt
[02:09] <Umeaboy> Gallomimia: I'll help you if you help me.
[02:09] <Umeaboy> At least I'll try.
[02:09] <USER____> Hi , I'm looking for software work like the default program "remote desktop" in windows , I just want create connection with two computers via ethernet wire
[02:09] <Umeaboy> Also, I'd love to have something that deletes the user from /etc/sudoers when the script is finished if possible.
[02:10] <coraxx> USER____:  nomachine,  vncserver,  xrdp
[02:11] <Umeaboy> Gallomimia: You were saying something about a boot problem.
[02:11] <Umeaboy> Tell me what the problem is and the specifications that involves the problem.
[02:11] <bb> is this secret chat?
[02:11] <Umeaboy> I might be able to help you.
[02:11] <nicomachus> bb: this channel is publicly logged.
[02:12] <Umeaboy> bb: Use smoke signals if you have to.
[02:12] <Umeaboy> :)
[02:12] <bb> Umeaboy: ohh i see :D
[02:12] <Gallomimia> yeah. the problem is i have a raid with crypto on it. and the /boot partition was separate. i nuked that, and need to reinstall. the grub and initrd must be configured properly, and include mdadm, dmcrypt and lvm2
[02:12] <Techspectre> xangua, how could I install it?
[02:12] <Gallomimia> and i don't understand how to do that. i think i need to involve a chroot
[02:13] <Gallomimia> Umeaboy: what did you say about doing a copy and paste for every line? why?
[02:13] <Techspectre> xangua, and I heard about that. But gnome's scrollbars aren't really 'overlay' scrollbars at all, are they?
[02:13] <Umeaboy> Gallomimia: Well, I like using thoose kinds of instructions.
[02:13] <Umeaboy> Universal ones.
[02:13] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: are you in a live usb right now?
[02:13] <Umeaboy> Like the first row: cat <<'EOF' > $HOME/.hadk.env
[02:14] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: i was. but that stopped working after the latest kernel update foobared the grub install on that usb. now i'm on a separate system
[02:14] <EriC^^> on the same pc?
[02:15] <EriC^^> you need a live session to fix it
[02:15] <Umeaboy> Gallomimia: Does THIS page help you in any way? https://we.riseup.net/debian/setting-up-raid+crypto+lvm-by-hand-howto
[02:16] <Umeaboy> If so, you're welcome! :)
[02:16] <Umeaboy> Now.......your turn.
[02:16] <Umeaboy> :)
[02:16] <USER____> coraxx What is the best ? I don't want software such as Teamviewer use connection with servers a company . I want program don't need connection with Internet .
[02:16] <USER____>  I want display desktop computer 1 on computer 2 , all in same room , I don't but I must use software remote desktop to do something like that ?
[02:18] <Gallomimia> Umeaboy: not really, but it's a good page. i may refer to it at some point
[02:19] <Gallomimia> Umeaboy: all that stuff is done on my system. (except encrypted swap) it's now broken and needs a repair
[02:19] <Umeaboy> OK.
[02:19] <Gallomimia> page doesn't show how to install the bootloader
[02:19] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: if you can get a live session or put the hdd on another system you can fix it pretty easily
[02:19] <Umeaboy> Gallomimia: GRUB? GRUB2? LILO?
[02:19] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: i've done that before
[02:19] <Gallomimia> grub2 was what i had
[02:20] <Gallomimia> i've had the suggestion of using systemd-boot
[02:20] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: you need to chroot and reinstall the kernel and install grub
[02:20] <Umeaboy> systemd is quite common today.
[02:20] <Gallomimia> yes. that's right EriC^^
[02:20] <Gallomimia> it's chroot that i don't understand how to do
[02:20] <EriC^^> you need to use GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y in /etc/default/grub
[02:20] <Gallomimia> i try diving into the manuals for grub config and initrd and i get lost cause i don't know how to chroot
[02:21] <OerHeks> !chroot
[02:21] <Gallomimia> wait wait wait
[02:21] <Gallomimia> let me right this dow
[02:21] <coraxx> USER____: that it was I like to do as well ... I use primarily nomachine for that purpose as the NX-protocol, which it uses, its very good even if connections are slow.  xrdp is a server software that works with the Microsoft Windows way of handling remote desktops.
[02:21] <EriC^^> if you want /boot not to be a separate partition
[02:21] <Gallomimia> OerHeks: i've read this page. it doesn't teach me how to actually construct a full chroot
[02:22] <EriC^^> chroot you just need to decrypt the partitions, and then mount them at /mnt , as if it were "/" , like if you have a separate /boot partition you'd mount the root filesystem at /mnt and the boot partition at /mnt/boot
[02:22] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: then you mount bind the virtual filesystems from the live session to /mnt , like mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
[02:22] <EriC^^> ( you need /sys /dev /dev/pts /proc and /run )
[02:22] <EriC^^> then you just sudo chroot /mnt , and you'll be in the actual install and you can install grub etc.
[02:23] <EriC^^> for the virtual filesystem binding i like this command, for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[02:23] <EriC^^> it'll do them all one after the other
[02:25] <Gallomimia> i got as far as learning what a mount bind is
[02:31] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: this is the part that gets confusing to me. i managed to do what you listed once. maybe i forgot a few of the vfs's
[02:31] <Gallomimia> but after that the concept of "just install grub" escapes me
[02:32] <Gallomimia> provided that i have a liveUSB with an install of mdadm and such, it should include the needed modules to boot the system?
[02:32] <EriC^^> it won't boot it
[02:32] <EriC^^> after you chroot, run apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic
[02:33] <cfhowlett> Gallomimia, it is quite easy
[02:33] <EriC^^> then apt-get install --reinstall < your grub package> and maybe the deps since the system thinks they're already installed and wont install them
[02:33] <admin__> hi
[02:33] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: are you using uefi or legacy?
[02:33] <Gallomimia> its uefi
[02:33] <Gallomimia> tho it seems to have the option to do legacy
[02:33] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: i think grub isn't made out of the box to pick up a full disk encryption with /boot encrypted inside "/"
[02:34] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: i had this set up once. it worked just fine
[02:34] <EriC^^> so you'll need to edit /etc/default/grub after installing grub and it failing
[02:34] <Gallomimia> and the /boot is not encrypted. it's outside the rest of the mess
[02:34] <EriC^^> and add the line GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y , the reinstall grub with grub-install
[02:34] <Gallomimia> the raid drives are all partitioned to have little slices at the start for /boot and /boot/EFI
[02:35] <EriC^^> oh i thought you deleted /boot and was trying to put it in "/" encrypted
[02:35] <gambl0re> is there a command to open the current directory while inside the terminal
[02:35] <Gallomimia> no. i deleted boot and was trying to restore it
[02:35] <EriC^^> gambl0re: nautilus .
[02:35] <gambl0re> it worked, whats nautilus
[02:35] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: deleted how?
[02:35] <Gallomimia> i had some serious problems where grub and alt-ctrl-F1 tty's wouldn't show up
[02:35] <EriC^^> gambl0re: the file manager
[02:36] <gambl0re> ok thanks
[02:36] <Gallomimia> well i was angry at the time so it was with dd /dev/zero
[02:36] <sebsebseb> gambl0re: what's your issue?
[02:36] <sebsebseb> gambl0re: oh not so much yours, but
[02:36] <gambl0re> nothing, nautilus . worked
[02:36] <cfhowlett> Gallomimia, CWA never ends well
[02:36] <sebsebseb> Gallomimia: what's your issue?
[02:36] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: ok well you'll need to recreate the partition/filesystem then
[02:36] <Gallomimia> sebsebseb: i deleted grub and /boot and must reinstall. it's complicated
[02:37] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: so i did that. on boot. i think...
[02:37] <EriC^^> and do the same stuff, except without adding GRUB_ENABLE... to grub
[02:37] <sebsebseb> Gallomimia: someone asked about uefi, and I raed something about encrypted something or the other even
[02:37] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: also, you'll need to edit /etc/fstab and include the new /boot 's uuid
[02:37] <sebsebseb> Gallomimia: I would suggest not using in future any of those encryped / or /home or swap or whatever opitions with Ubuntu, unless your compllelt paranoid
[02:38] <sebsebseb> Gallomimia: becasue it can cause issues when it comes to re installing and things like that
[02:39] <lordshango> whats up
[02:39] <sebsebseb> nm u
[02:40] <lordshango> learning how to use irc
[02:40] <sebsebseb> oh ok
[02:40] <lordshango> what are some good channels
[02:40] <nicomachus> lordshango: #freenode can tell you all about IRC. This channel is Ubuntu support only
[02:40] <sebsebseb> lordshango: depends but if you put in /list that should list most of them and oh there's a lot, may slow down your connection a bit whilst listenign them even
[02:40] <cfhowlett> lordshango, this is ubuntu support.  for chitchat #ubuntu-oftopic
[02:41] <Gallomimia> suggesting to someone not to use crypto is a bit like saying don't lock your house
[02:41] <sebsebseb> Gallomimia: well yes and no depends
[02:41] <Gallomimia> i want to lock my drives. there's no performance hit that i notice
[02:41] <eelstrebor> i'm a little confused about dnscrypt - do i need to do anything after installing it on a client pc? dig debug.opendns.com txt seems to say that it's working but is that just a test or do i need to set it up to use a dnscrypt service?
[02:41] <sebsebseb> Gallomimia: it's not about perforance hit etc
[02:41] <lordshango> <sebsebseb thanks
[02:42] <cfhowlett> eelstrebor, might ask in #ubuntu-server
[02:42] <sebsebseb> Gallomimia: it's about wanting to re intsall Ubuntu, then finding out that your encrypted partion doens't just detect etc
[02:42] <Gallomimia> yes the difficulty in dealin with encrypted drives during problems... i'm seeing that
[02:42] <Gallomimia> it's a good learning experience
ok
[02:43] <Techspectre> If I install Gnome 3.16 in Ubuntu 15.04 via the ppa, but I use LightDM, will I have problems?
[02:44] <cfhowlett> Techspectre, 15.04 is soon to go end of life.  why not just install ubuntu-gnome?
[02:44] <ditchland> cfhowlett: when is 16 ltr
[02:44] <eelstrebor> cfhowlett, but this is for a client
[02:44] <nicomachus> April
[02:45] <cfhowlett> ditchland, 16.04 = 2016 / April
[02:45] <sebsebseb> Techspectre: there isn't that much differnece between the GNOME versions that those two use
[02:45] <ditchland> Okay
[02:45] <sebsebseb> Techspectre: noticeable difference to the user
[02:45] <sebsebseb> Techspectre: the ppa will probably work, but yeah why not just upgrade to 15.10 ?
[02:46] <Gallomimia> ditchland: interesting jokes you make sir
[02:46] <ditchland> Techspectre: I think lightdm affects only login
[02:47] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: thanks for that. i think i might just about have this licked. can you remind me what formats the /boot and /boot/EFI should be? i thought ext2 and ext3.
[02:48] <Techspectre> sebsebseb, if I upgrade to 15.10 via the updater will I have Gnome 3.16 in my repos?
[02:48] <OerHeks> Techspectre, no, ppas will be disabled.
[02:48] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: /boot should be ext2 , and /boot/efi ( no caps ) should be fat32
[02:48] <sebsebseb> Techspectre: no Ubuntu GNOME will not give you latest GNOME
[02:48] <c_nick> i launch startup applications and untick an app which i dont want to start when ubuntu starts .. But on the restart it launches and startup app shows the tick (enabled) . How can i make the uncheck effective across restarts
[02:48] <sebsebseb> Techspectre: Ubuntu used to be really good at following GNOME and providing the latest stable version of GNOME, but then things went Unity
[02:49] <Techspectre> I'm using GNOME 3.14 right now and I just want the new overlay scrollbars
[02:49] <sebsebseb> Techspectre: and  that stopped, and GNOME became a community supported thing, hence the ppa for latest GNOME for Ubuntu GNOME
[02:50] <EriC^^> c_nick: type find ~/.config ! -user $USER
[02:50] <sebsebseb> Techspectre: you should upgrade to 15.10
[02:50] <sebsebseb> Techspectre: then if you want a even later GNOME in that install the ppa
[02:51] <jzeolla> EriC^^:  Hmm, interesting you mention that right as I join.  I'm having some issues getting my preseed to work - after the build it boots into the UEFI shell
[02:51] <jzeolla> I'm trying to make /boot ext4, but I don't make any allowances for an ESP... Should I?
[02:52] <EriC^^> yeah you need an efi partition
[02:53] <Techspectre> sebsebseb, thank you
[02:53] <jzeolla> EriC^^: Know of any good write-ups to explain how that works?  I'm reading the wiki now...
[02:54] <EriC^^> jzeolla: check out an arch wiki i guess
[02:54] <Techspectre> I don't think LightDM is what affects login
[02:54] <Gallomimia> jzeolla: been a long time since i looked it up, but i don't think /boot can be ext4
[02:54] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: it can
[02:55] <jzeolla> Gallomimia: I saw a couple others do it
[02:55] <Techspectre> I can tell you that on my machine with multiple monitors, when I install gnome and select GDM, the monitor placement gets reset on every restart. So I use LightDM
[02:58] <lordshango> 2
[03:01] <jzeolla> Anyone know how partman-lvm commands port to partman-auto-lvm?  I'm running into a bug in partman-lvm which was listed as won't fix, and only got fixed in partman-auto-lvm
[03:01] <jzeolla> Specifically, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-auto-lvm/+bug/154086
[03:11] <lordshango> b
[03:23] <fulvio> quo vado
[03:26] <eelstrebor> i tried to download an updated dnscrypt-proxy.csv file but it doesn't render properly in LibreWord anymore - i used wget to retrieve it from github
[03:26] <cfhowlett> libreword?  for a .csv file?
[03:27] <c_nick> EriC^^, Nothing there
[03:27] <c_nick> its just outputting the folder paths
[03:36] <IceNine> eric^^ still around?
[03:40] <EriC^^> IceNine: hey yeah
[03:41] <EriC^^> c_nick: it shouldn't output anything, that means it's not owned by your user
[03:41] <EriC^^> so the changes you make won't be saved if ~/.config/autostart/.. isn't owned by your user
[03:42] <c_nick> EriC^^, I do see the autostart line in there
[03:42] <c_nick> with that app
[03:42] <IceNine> @eric^^ - https://pastee.org/q68cf
[03:42] <c_nick> can i sudo launch start up App?
[03:43] <c_nick> i am the superuser on the box but i dont know why it doesnt work
[03:43] <EriC^^> c_nick: type sudo find ~/.config ! -user $USER -exec chown $USER: '{}' \;
[03:43] <EriC^^> c_nick: don't use sudo with startup apps
[03:43] <c_nick> returned nothing
[03:44] <EriC^^> good
[03:44] <EriC^^> try ls -l ~/.config/autostart | nc openterm.tk 9
[03:44] <EriC^^> paste the link here
[03:45] <EriC^^> IceNine: it's odd that it won't take the public key
[03:45] <c_nick> EriC^^, haha I like that.
[03:45] <c_nick> -rw-rw-r-- 1 user user   267 Jan 12 08:16 dropbox.desktop < I need to remove this
[03:46] <EriC^^> that looks fine
[03:46] <EriC^^> give it a shot
[03:47] <c_nick> so when i launch the start up app and uncheck the check on next reboot it again retains the check
[03:47] <EriC^^> you just tried it?
[03:47] <IceNine> @eric^^, i did the same setup on my laptop and it worked...
[03:47] <IceNine> don't know why desktop is not working
[03:47] <EriC^^> IceNine: try ssh-copy-id again
[03:48] <c_nick> EriC^^, its unchecked on
[03:48] <c_nick> now*
[03:48] <EriC^^> c_nick: ok if you enter startup apps again is it still unchecked?
[03:48] <c_nick> yes
[03:48] <EriC^^> ok, should work
[03:48] <c_nick> for this instance of the os.. when i restart its again enabled
[03:48] <EriC^^> try to logout and back in
[03:49] <EriC^^> c_nick: have you tried it since running the find .. chown command?
[03:49] <c_nick> no
[03:49] <c_nick> let me try
[03:51] <c_nick> This should work .. will ping back incase it fails
[03:51] <c_nick> Thanks EriC^^
[03:52] <Guest87964> hello, I had an energy shutdown and ubuntustudio isnt booting anymore. Splash screen appears and  then a blinking message: fsck from util-linux 2.26.2 /dev/sda2: clean, 578336/9281536 files, 21158212/37111296 blocks.
[03:52] <Guest87964> how can I fix it?
[03:53] <daftykins> energy or emergency?
[03:53] <Guest87964> energy went out, powered off
[03:53] <daftykins> ah ok power cut
[03:54] <daftykins> try an older kernel
[03:55] <Guest87964> how can I do that? Do I need a live version?
[03:55] <daftykins> no hold left shift before the logos come up, after power on, then pick an older kernel under 'advanced'
[03:58] <Guest87964> is there any other key combination? it just skipped into the splash screen and am again at the blinking message
[04:00] <daftykins> you could try escape, hitting shift after the system POST screen but before the disk is read from
[04:04] <onezuff> what is the best way to figure out why my machine keeps rebooting? just keeps showing system halt like this for reboot https://i.imgur.com/bUPDsPv.gifv
[04:04] <SireWolf> someone join ##werewolf and play with us!
[04:04] <daftykins> SireWolf: no and no advertising here, you can hassle #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:04] <cfhowlett> SireWolf, no spam in this channel please
[04:05] <cfhowlett> onezuff, same message
[04:05] <daftykins> onezuff: that makes no sense
[04:05] <onezuff> it halts for reboot for no reason and my ssh closes like in the screenshot
[04:06] <cfhowlett> onezuff, look at your screenshot - nothing  to do with ubuntu
[04:06] <Guest87964> found F10, selected older version and now I'm getting "loading Linux 4.2.0-22 lowlatency... Loading initial ram " (something in those lines, ubuntu is in spanish)
[04:06] <daftykins> onezuff: that is not a screenshot
[04:06] <onezuff> omg i pasted the wrong one now i gotta find my imgur link jesus
[04:06]  * cfhowlett opens /ignore file and prepares to add a name
[04:07] <onezuff> my vps only has 64mb of ram, if it runs out of ram will that cause it to reboot?
[04:07] <onezuff> me cfhowlett ??
[04:07] <cfhowlett> onezuff, out of ram?  more like to cause to freeze
[04:08] <EriC^^> onezuff: 64mb ram
[04:08] <onezuff> i think it is LXC c ontainer cfhowlett
[04:08] <Flannel> cfhowlett: Don't do things like that, by the way.  It's anti-productive.
[04:08] <EriC^^> that's pretty low
[04:08] <daftykins> yeah that's terrible
[04:08] <cfhowlett> onezuff, OK.  sorry, I know nothing of lxc/lxd
[04:08] <onezuff> i have regular vm's w/ digital ocean and vultr. this one is ultra small / cheap like 50cents/mo
[04:09] <EriC^^> onezuff: you sure ubuntu can even start with 64mb ram? i've a server with apache and a couple services and it's at 380mb right now
[04:09] <EriC^^> oh wait, that's the free mb
[04:10] <EriC^^> about 140mb used
[04:10] <onezuff> i think it's a minimal version EriC^^ and also it's a container VPS i think like a docker thing almost
[04:10] <onezuff> https://www.berry.pw/ EriC^^
[04:11] <daftykins> you get what you pay for
[04:11] <EriC^^> onezuff: so it's 64mb ram and 64mb swap?
[04:11] <onezuff> yeah
[04:12] <EriC^^> so 128mb in total
[04:12] <EriC^^> that sounds more possible i guess
[04:12] <onezuff> vswap i think is different than swap but im not sure
[04:12] <EriC^^> hey you could make a swap file so it doesn't crash if it reaches 128mb
[04:12] <onezuff> when i do free -m i see 64M and 64M swap
[04:13] <daftykins> not sure you can have two swaps?
[04:13] <onezuff> the crazy part is that it only crashed when i start refreshing the stats page on the vps which shows my utilization
[04:13] <onezuff> i think it might be a problem with that actually not the vps :(
[04:13] <daftykins> what's up with 'top' ?
[04:13] <EriC^^> onezuff: show us df -Th
[04:14] <onezuff> http://pastebin.com/qTWLjwVY
[04:15] <onezuff> maybe i should stop refreshing the stats page, it seems to be causing it to crash lol
[04:15] <EriC^^> no swap partition or file there
[04:15] <onezuff> i think vswap is done through the VPS provider or something
[04:16] <onezuff> openvz.org/VSwap
[04:16] <daftykins> i think it's fair to say that your providers' implementation isn't a standard ubuntu, thus support here would be pretty out of scope
[04:17] <onezuff> thx anyway guys, i'll send a support ticket
[04:17] <onezuff> doesn't crash at all unless im messing with the stats page on the website :(
[04:18] <daftykins> 'top' is your friend
[04:18] <EriC^^> memory leaks, your enemy
[04:18] <onezuff> will try that
[04:20] <unsure> i could not see anything on wily dvd
[04:21] <unsure> also xrandr says unable to change screen to 800x600
[04:21] <unsure> anybody knows how to make this stuff work without burning out the monitors
[04:22] <daftykins> start from the beginning, so far the only thing i can grasp from your messages are you're trying to boot 15.10 on *something*
[04:23] <daftykins> unsure: ?
[04:32] <unsure> daftykins are you asking me?
[04:32] <unsure> yes i tried to boot wily but it is very hard on the monitor and i can't get it to 800x600 max
[04:32] <RAVENBLACKFALL> hi
[04:33] <unsure> daftykins...i tried to kill lightdm...and use xrandr...but it keeps coming back
[04:33] <daftykins> unsure: what kind of system...
[04:33] <RAVENBLACKFALL> IRC!
[04:33] <RAVENBLACKFALL> OMG
[04:33] <daftykins> RAVENBLACKFALL: stop it.
[04:33] <RAVENBLACKFALL> I HAVENT SEEN THIS SHIT IN DECADES
[04:33] <cfhowlett> !ops | RAVENBLACKFALL,
[04:33]  * rww looks up
[04:33] <unsure> and xrandr says its unable to change the screen
[04:33] <rww> RAVENBLACKFALL: is there an Ubuntu support question we can help you with today?
[04:33] <RAVENBLACKFALL> oh this isnt an open chat?
[04:34] <rww> RAVENBLACKFALL: nope. #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[04:34] <RAVENBLACKFALL> !whois rww
[04:34] <rww> see also /msg ubottu guidelines
[04:34] <cfhowlett> RAVENBLACKFALL, as clearly stated in the topic, this is ubuntu support.  stay on topic or play somewhere else, please
[04:34] <EriC^^> unsure: if you kill lightdm you can't use xrandr, you need x to use xrandr
[04:35] <RAVENBLACKFALL> umm I am not a hacker should i not use Kali
[04:35] <daftykins> Kali is not on topic here, go elsewhere
[04:35] <cfhowlett> !kali | RAVENBLACKFALL
[04:36] <Flannel> RAVENBLACKFALL: Please join #ubuntu-offtopic to continue your discussion (`/join #ubuntu-offtopic` will get you there)
[04:36] <RAVENBLACKFALL> k thanks
[04:37] <unsure> i had a fairly nice ubuntu install on a hard drive that sat unused for a couple of years..and when i tried to fire it up...i guess the head was stuck to the platter because it knocked the head off and i lost all my data
[04:37] <daftykins> unsure: so what are you trying to boot wily on? i can't help if you're not going to actually respond
[04:39] <Malgorath> I have an issue that when I restart my computer I have to replug in my keyboard and mouse to get them to work, any tips or ideas?
[04:45] <daftykins> Malgorath: i'd probably read some logs and see what's going on
[04:45] <daftykins> is it a desktop?
[04:45] <Malgorath> yes
[04:45] <daftykins> are they case provided USB ports, or motherboard IO area ones?
[04:46] <Malgorath> trying both
[04:46] <daftykins> now, or there's no difference between?
[04:47] <Malgorath> no difference
[04:48] <Malgorath> Is there something I should look at?
[04:49] <daftykins> dmesg probably
[04:52] <Malgorath> anymore details about what to look for?
[04:52] <daftykins> USB descriptor fails probably
[04:52] <daftykins> just put dmesg into a text editor then find on 'usb' and see what it comes up with
[04:53] <daftykins> is it a custom build or a factory made PC?
[04:53] <Malgorath> its a custom build I just got from a guy
[04:56] <daftykins> i would probably discharge the motherboard to reset the USB controllers, by detaching the PSU connectors
[04:56] <Malgorath> daftykins, I did a dmesg | grep USB and posted it on gist at: ttps://gist.github.com/fb10afdded76ca99321c
[04:56] <Malgorath> ah okay, I will give that a go
[04:56] <daftykins> it would have to be grep -i usb ; i would think
[04:58] <Malgorath> https://gist.github.com/01d02ab61a77b5e1981a if you want to look, I'll unplug Mobo and muck around, bbiab few minutes
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[05:08] <ChiLLabiS> nicomachus, i've found the problem on google about my problem earlier when ubuntu refused to boot. I had to change my SSD and DVDrom from SATA6G_E12 to the regular connectors. Now everything works again like it should. :)
[05:09] <cfhowlett> ravi sorry, but backbox is not ubuntu and is not supported here.
[05:09] <daftykins> mmm third party controller chips are never good
[05:14] <ravenblack> what is the channel for offtopic chat?
[05:14] <OerHeks> depends how offtopic, #ubuntu-discuss or #ubutu-offtopic
[05:15]  * OerHeks fixes the N key
[05:15] <OerHeks>  #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:24] <matschaffer> Is this the right place for questions about images listed on https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/ ? I'm trying ami-5c207736 on VPC for the first time and it seems like the image isn't adding an entry into /etc/hosts for it's eth0/hostname setting. Curious if this is a bug or expected behavior.
[05:25] <daftykins> VPC?
[05:25] <matschaffer> Amazon VPC, sorry
[05:25] <daftykins> ah nevermind i don't know what that is
[05:29] <somsip> matschaffer: not something that I've seen happen on any previous AMIs on Amazon, so I suspect it's not intended to do that
[05:31] <matschaffer> somsip: on VPC? On classic you might not notice because the AWS servers will resolve it for you. Odd that it doesn't on VPC
[05:31] <somsip> matschaffer: not noticed it on VPC. What use case do you need to connect to the hostname from the host?
[05:32] <matschaffer> I'm running into some tools that expect to be able to resolve their own hostname (sudo, proftpd)
[05:32] <cisc> since ubuntu 14.04 Server LTS doesn't have systemd, what is the equivalent command to running `journalctl` so I can see the boot messages?
[05:32] <matschaffer> sudo still works, just warns. proftpd just refuses to start
[05:33] <daftykins> cisc: you mean like reading 'dmesg' ?
[05:33] <somsip> matschaffer: yeah - agree on the sudo warning, but surprised if proftpd hasn't got a config entry to disable that
[05:33] <matschaffer> oh fair point, I'll see if there is one
[05:34] <cisc> daftykins: yeah but dmesg only shows kernel messages, I want to see something that may be hanging on boot
[05:34] <matschaffer> could have sworn I've seen ubuntu use the dhcp data to update /etc/hosts, but maybe that was on a fresh install or something
[05:34] <daftykins> i think hosts is pretty static
[05:35] <somsip> matschaffer: there is the script that runs on boot to setup various entries, but can't say I've ever dissected it
[05:35] <matschaffer> happen to remember what it was called?
[05:35] <matschaffer> maybe I can find an answer in there
[05:35] <somsip> matschaffer: foudn of StackOverflow: In AWS, go to your vpc and turn on "DNS Hostnames".
[05:36] <matschaffer> yeah, that's on - that seems to control resolution of the external hostname
[05:36] <matschaffer> that part works
[05:36] <somsip> matschaffer: ah - ok
[05:36] <matschaffer> but the $(hostname) which I'm assuming comes from dhcp won't resolve either way
[05:36] <matschaffer> actually trying to remember how to get the output of a dhcp response
[05:36] <matschaffer> just to verify my assumption there is correct
[05:37] <somsip> matschaffer: resolves here - ECHO $HOSTNAME gives ip-172-30-0-12. Is that what you're missing?
[05:38] <matschaffer> on vpc try `nslookup ip-172-30-0-12`
[05:38] <somsip> matschaffer: I understand that will fail.
[05:40] <matschaffer> or `ping $(hostname)` rather. Basically I seem to recal seeing the hostname replicated in /etc/hosts as a default sort of thing. My memory mayb just be wrong here
[05:40] <matschaffer> echo $HOSTNAME works fine though
[05:40] <matschaffer> I'll see if there's a way to make proftpd not care. That might be easier
[05:40] <matschaffer> cause basically nothing else does
[05:41] <matschaffer> :)
[05:41] <somsip> matschaffer: never seen it myself, and not on my vpc hosts. Have a look at /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg under "preserve_hostname: false" which looks promising
[05:42] <matschaffer> actually this helps. Can't help but notice the update_etc_hosts module in here
[05:42] <somsip> matschaffer: yep - that's what I meant. Change to true, reboot, see how it looks, make a new AMI if it works - tada!
[05:43] <matschaffer> yep. I'll dig into cloud-init a bit deeper first. The comment on preserve_hostname makes think it's not quite what I'm looking for but I'm sure a little code spelunking will answer that
[05:43] <somsip> matschaffer: k - good luck
[05:43] <matschaffer> somsip: thanks for the help. Looks like exactly the pointer I was looking for :)
[05:43] <somsip> matschaffer: np
[06:12] <PK101> Hello, does this look good? http://s15.postimg.org/u7wky7ccb/Screenshot_2016_01_12_06_10_16.png
[06:12] <PK101> It's a partition table
[06:13] <daftykins> very weird place to put the EFI boot partition
[06:13] <daftykins> 5GB swap is also odd
[06:14] <daftykins> i think a 500MB efi boot would be better
[06:14] <PK101> 500 MB?
[06:14] <PK101> OK, I'm resizing
[06:15] <daftykins> but why didn't you put it at the start of the disk?
[06:15] <daftykins> heh you've got a /boot as well as the EFI partition, that's not necessary
[06:18] <PK101> http://s21.postimg.org/bs1bdkbnr/Screenshot_2016_01_12_06_17_22.png
[06:18] <PK101> This?
[06:18] <PK101> I have always done the root first, then /boot, then /boot/efi
[06:18] <PK101> I'm coming from Arch
[06:18] <PK101> :C
[06:19] <PK101> daftykins: Should I just apply 'em ?
[06:19] <argentdrake> Hello, I'm having a problem that seems to happen randomly. While in a program, it seems that it quits processing what I type and just hits whatever key it feels like. Often an arrow key. This stops when I close the program and repopen it. Occurs in runescape linux native client and WoW under wine. Any suggestions on how to fix?
[06:20] <daftykins> PK101: heh, totally backwards
[06:20] <PK101> hm, should I apply it or not
[06:20] <PK101> or possibly delete the /boot
[06:20] <daftykins> i'd start again XD
[06:21] <PK101> to accomplish what?
[06:23] <PK101> I'm applyin' this
[06:25] <PK101> Applied, no errors, w/e
[06:26] <PK101> WTF
[06:26] <PK101> FAULTY CD/DVD
[06:26] <PK101> I'M NOT ACTUALLY USING A CD/DVD
[06:26] <PK101> A USB
[06:32] <PK101> Bloody fail
[06:33] <PK101> I'm destroying the /boot
[06:36] <PK101> Is everyone dead here?
[06:37] <PK101> RIP LIFE
[06:37] <hateball> PK101: Doubtful
[06:37] <PK101> No custom-engineering
[06:37] <PK101> going with the Ubuntu installer
[06:37] <PK101> :C
[06:43] <PK101> Removed all partitions, will install Windows 10, will be happy and good
[07:03] <matschaffer> somsip: yay! Just dropped `manage_etc_hosts: true` into `/etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/01_hosts.cfg` and things look happy - thanks for the pointer
[07:03] <matschaffer> I would have been lost in dhcp land for at least another half day
[07:18] <somsip> matschaffer: cool - glad you found it :)
[07:26] <souplady> I have just installed ubuntu on a new laptop and the wifi is not working properly. Someone on the forum guided me through some troubleshooting and everything appears to be working but every time I try to connect it comes back with a notification saying "disconnected". Can someone help me?
[07:28] <hateball> souplady: What version of Ubuntu are you using, and what chipset is your wifi?
[07:29] <souplady> Ubuntu is 14.04. The wifi device is called Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe wirless network adapter
[07:30] <dk_> hello
[07:30] <hateball> souplady: Have you upgraded so it is 14.04.03? Run "lsb_release -a" in a terminal to make sure
[07:30] <souplady> hateball: yes, it is 14.04.03
[07:32] <aldo> il marchese del grillo
[07:36] <hateball> souplady: I personally solve realtek issues by replacing the card. But I realize this is not a viable option for most. You could try installing a different kernel and see if it works better
[07:38] <hateball> souplady: That is, "sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-wily" which will give you a more recent kernel to choose from in GRUB. It may or may not work better with your hardware. You can always go back to the 14.04.3 kernel  using the grub menu
[07:39] <daftykins> +1 to ditching Realtek
[07:40] <souplady> hateball: thank you, unfortunately the laptop is unable to connect to the internet without wifi because it has no ethernet port. is there any way i can get the appropriate files to run on the device via usb stick? the only other computer i have is a mac
[07:40] <Gallomimia> macs make it easy
[07:41] <Gallomimia> wait what are you trying to do?
[07:41] <souplady> im just trying to get the wifi to work. honestly i have no idea what im doing, i just know how to follow instructions.
[07:41] <souplady> very specific instructions.
[07:42] <Tomiii> hello, how do you Run two commands on one argument?   i know there is a shortcut way to do it
[07:42] <somsip> Tomiii: update this && echo that
[07:42] <Gallomimia> perhaps you'd have an easier time if you ran an ethernet wire between those two systems and told the mac to share your wifi connection with users on the LAN
[07:42] <Tomiii> something like:  mkdir+cd test
[07:42] <Gallomimia> Tomiii: put a ; between them
[07:42] <Tomiii> i know there is a faster way
[07:42] <Tomiii> i forgot it though  :(
[07:43] <Tomiii> mkdir test;cd !$
[07:43] <Tomiii> but there is an even faster way
[07:43] <souplady> gallomimia: the laptop with the issue doesn't have an ethernet port, i cant wire it to anything. is there no other way to do it or are you telling me im going to have to buy an adapter?
[07:43] <Gallomimia> oh that's unfortunate
[07:43] <hateball> souplady: It's possible to grab the kernel packages you need from another machine, but it's quite a hassle to get all the dependencies on another machine
[07:43] <Gallomimia> so you have a USB stick?
[07:43] <souplady> yes, i have a usb stick
[07:43] <hateball> souplady: especially if that machine is not running linux
[07:43] <Gallomimia> and on it is.... what. LIVE ubuntu?
[07:44] <Tomiii> is there another IRC or website to look up that shortcut?  it's like a splinter in my brain  ;)
[07:44] <souplady> yes, that's how i installed ubuntu
[07:44] <Gallomimia> tomiii there's #bash
[07:44] <hateball> Tomiii: command1 & command2
[07:44] <hateball> Tomiii: that will just fire them off after another
[07:44] <somsip> Tomiii: you want to create a dir and cd into it with one command? mkdir test && cd test
[07:44] <hateball> Tomiii: command1 && command2, will run command2 if command1 exits gracefully
[07:44] <Gallomimia> hateball only if the first one executes successfully
[07:45] <Tomiii> guys, there is a faster way!    it is something like mkdir+cd test
[07:45] <Gallomimia> that
[07:45] <Tomiii> but it's not a " + " sign
[07:45] <somsip> Tomiii: faster than spending 5 mins on IRC asking about it... :-/
[07:45] <Gallomimia> uh... maybe in curly braces comma separated?
[07:46] <Gallomimia> {mkdir,cd} somethin
[07:46] <Gallomimia> its definitely a bash trick. ask those guys
[07:46] <somsip> Gallomimia: nah - that for mkdir test{1,2,3} to create multiple dirs
[07:46] <Tomiii> mabyyyyye somethin like that
[07:48] <vyom> hi
[07:49] <yellabs-r2> hello
[07:49] <yellabs-r2> there
[07:49] <souplady> um, so how difficult is it to replace a wireless card? i've upgraded ram before but that's the depth of my experience
[07:49] <Tomiii> souplady: easy, 2 wires
[07:49] <souplady> no sautering irons? also can you recommend me a replacement card?
[07:50] <yellabs-r2> can i drop an .sh bash script in motd ( message of the day directory ) and will it be executed ?
[07:50] <Tomiii> you could try a newer version of ubuntu.  if your gonna do a clean install when 16.04 comes out anyway
[07:51] <Tomiii>  Qualcomm Atheros, is good if you want to to packetinjection stuff -souplady
[07:51] <mikubuntu> i'm having a hella time with chrome still, and i can't seem to get any help from the channel at #chrome -- all i want to do is delete and reinstall, but i can't find it as installed in synaptic, and it doesn't show up in software center either -- but i can assure you its installed
[07:52] <mikubuntu> running lub 14.04
[07:52] <daftykins> souplady: what brand is the machine?
[07:52] <Tomiii> souplady: i bet 16.04 alpha works, i had the same problem with a wifi card, and 16.04  worked with wifi
[07:52] <mikubuntu> also tried deleting it through term, but it said 'chrome not found'
[07:52] <souplady> daftykins: it's an hp stream 11
[07:52] <hateball> souplady: It depends on your laptop, some manufacturers lock down cards in BIOS, so you cannot replace easily
[07:53] <Tomiii> hateball: that sucks, i never heard of that
[07:53] <hateball> And HP are one of those, altho I cannot say for that particular model
[07:53] <souplady> it's a $200 facebook machine for my grandmother.
[07:53] <Tomiii> FAcebook Machine  ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
[07:53] <souplady> i installed ubuntu on her old laptop because she's incapable of using the internet for 5 minutes without catching something
[07:53] <Gallomimia> souplady: wireless cards. to physically change one, it's a little more difficult than ram. not much. open the case, find the card, remove the wires, do as the ram did, put the wires back, close the case
[07:53] <hateball> Tomiii: We have thousands of HP here at work, I have noticed it quite a few times :)
[07:53] <daftykins> souplady: the tiny little toys? waste of time trying to do anything with that.
[07:53] <souplady> but that one is falling apart
[07:54] <Tomiii> hateball: that nonsense justifies a RMS clip:   https://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/snowden-leak-privacy-surveillance-093/
[07:54] <daftykins> i like the idea of trying xenial though, 16.04
[07:55] <daftykins> Tomiii: this is a support channel, take the junk to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks.
[07:55] <daftykins> no chat
[07:55] <Tomiii> souplady: 16.04 liveCD worked for me, but ran out of RAM fast,  if you install it, it might work.  have you tried 15.10?
[07:56] <Gallomimia> did we determine whether souplady's wifi card is going to work with proprietary drivers?
[07:56] <Tomiii> oh, wait, you dont want 15.10 for Grandma Facebook Machine (TM)  cuz it expires soon, souplady
[07:56] <daftykins> Gallomimia: realtek's own are worse than is on already
[07:56] <souplady> tomiii: i have only done 14.04, i didn't even realize there was a newer version
[07:56] <Gallomimia> so.... the best drivers are already installed?
[07:57] <Tomiii> souplady: 14.04 is my favorite for now, cuz its LTS.  16.04 is next LTS, but it's only in Alpha
[07:57] <souplady> the only drivers installed are what comes stock with the operating system
[07:57] <Gallomimia> tomiii: can't wait for it to come put now
[07:57] <zippo^> Does someone know or Ubuntu has more "magnifier"applications for Ubuntu?
[07:57] <daftykins> souplady: since 16.04 will be out in April it may work better, give it a try in a live session
[07:57] <Gallomimia> souplady: that's actually quite a lot of drivers
[07:58] <souplady> gallomimia: what a miracle it doesn't work, then
[07:58] <Gallomimia> no. wifi never bloody works :(
[07:58] <Tomiii> mikubuntu: chromium-browser is better than chrome
[07:58] <souplady> daftykins: i will give 16.04 a try
[07:58] <Gallomimia> i had a lot of grief with my mac laptop trying to run ubuntu
[07:58] <Gallomimia> but i did get wireless drivers downloaded by plugging into the LAN
[07:59] <Tomiii> Hey does anyone know how to install the newest version of CryptSetup, in 14.04?  i dont find a PPA?
[07:59] <daftykins> !newest
[08:00] <daftykins> if you can't find a PPA, compile
[08:00] <Tomiii> i want the new cryptsetup version for this:  https://thelinuxexperiment.com/how-to-migrate-from-truecrypt-to-luks-file-containers/
[08:01] <Tomiii> or even better is there a GUI that creates LUKS file-containers?  besides ZuluCrypt?
[08:02] <Tomiii> can the newest version of gnome-disk-utility create file-containers?
[08:07] <mikubuntu> Tomiii: i like chromium fine enough but i'm having a problem with some kind of malware page that has taken over my chrome and gets ahold of a tab and locks it down, not allowing me to do anything at all except killing it. but when i reopen chrome it goes back to the previous open pages, and i'm in a headlock again
[08:07] <daftykins> you still haven't sorted that?
[08:07] <daftykins> wow mikubuntu - i told you the path to check for chrome's profile to nuke it :)
[08:08] <Tomiii> so i'm still trying to learn how to create file-container for LUKS. which is better:
[08:08] <Tomiii> fallocate -l 500M MySecrets.img  && dd if=/dev/urandom of=MySecrets.img bs=1M count=500
[08:08] <Tomiii> head -c 500M /dev/urandom > MySecrets.img
[08:09] <Tomiii> "head" is in the FAQ for cryptsetup, but "fallocate" is shown on other guides
[08:09] <mikubuntu> daftykins: be happy to if you can walk me through it :P
[08:10] <OerHeks> mikubuntu, we have, several times now .. if you keep going to that malwarepage, why should we help?
[08:10] <daftykins> mikubuntu: moving/removing  a folder? do you need help with that?
[08:10] <somsip> mikubuntu: make an entry in /etc/hosts with the offending IP and point it to localhost. It'll timeout, close it, never open it again
[08:10] <mikubuntu> OerHeks: daftykins yes, i'm old and stupid
[08:11] <OerHeks> ( and first reporting that page is more usefull i guess)
[08:11] <somsip> s/IP/FQDN
[08:12] <mikubuntu> i took photographs and displayed them many times over the last few days, i don't know if anybody reported the page i'll post it here again
[08:12] <daftykins> mikubuntu: what's in ~/.config/google-chrome/ ?
[08:13] <mikubuntu> daftykins: bash: /home/mikubuntu/.config/google-chrome/: Is a directory
[08:14] <mikubuntu> OerHeks: it's not that i'm 'going to' the malware page -- chrome is set to reopen last pages, so every time it launches it opens all the previously open tabs
[08:14] <mikubuntu> somsip: never heard of that one before, you say its a permanent solution?
[08:15] <somsip> mikubuntu: so make the page inaccessible - as I said before, or even just disconnect from the internet
[08:15] <somsip> mikubuntu: it's the same basis that's used by some ad blockers eg: http://hostsfile.mine.nu/
[08:16] <mikubuntu> somsip: could it be as simple as disconnecting from net and then change chrome settings?
[08:16] <daftykins> mikubuntu: i know it's a directory, but what's *inside* it? :) "ls -al ~/.config/google-chrome/ | pastebinit
[08:16] <somsip> mikubuntu: find out. Disconnect, open chrome, close all tabs nicely, set it to open a nice safe homepage, close it, reopen it offline, see if it only opens the safe page, reconnect
[08:16] <daftykins> no you'd have browser cache too.
[08:17] <somsip> daftykins: good point, but clearable
[08:18] <daftykins> only if the browser isn't hijacked on run :>
[08:18] <daftykins> just clean the profile like i said, it's really such a basic task
[08:19] <somsip> daftykins: which would be the bit where i'd agree that nuking the profile is the next step. But if it works, it's a simpler fix maybe
[08:19] <daftykins> *nod*
[08:19] <daftykins> mikubuntu: chop chop!
[08:19] <mikubuntu> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14476458/
[08:23] <mikubuntu> do NOT visit the page displayed in this image ---  http://imagebin.ca/v/2TBO3xyGaNbp
[08:23] <OerHeks> mikubuntu, use the report function in chrome > help > report an issue + url
[08:24] <daftykins> mikubuntu: so easiest option "mv ~/.config/google-chrome ~/.config/google-chrome.old"
[08:25] <mikubuntu> daftykins: ok then what
[08:25] <daftykins> run chrome again
[08:25] <daftykins> ta-da... it's fresh
[08:25] <mikubuntu> lemme try
[08:31] <mikubuntu> OerHeks: thx but i can't find a way to report it, and i posted repeatedly for hours and hours in #chrome and din't get the time of day from anyone. daftykins thx, yes looks like i have a fresh profile, but when chrome synchs is that page going to come right back, i don't know
[08:32] <daftykins> mikubuntu: *shrug* i don't use that feature
[08:32] <OerHeks> hmm, chrome syncs bookmarks ..
[08:38] <mikubuntu> can't find anyplace to block that website in the settings
[08:41] <winsoff> HEY
[08:41] <winsoff> I think I fixed a common bootchart bug.
[08:41] <daftykins> mikubuntu: there wouldn't be
[08:41] <winsoff> It looks for var/log/bootchart.tgz, which is not generated on my machine.  However, /dev/.bootchart/log can be provided to pyboochartgui and done just fine
[08:42] <winsoff> So why not just change it to search there by default?
[08:42] <C_minus> Hanging on splash screen. What can I hit to drop to command prompt? Just before splash appeared I saw some text but disappeared too fast.
[08:42] <winsoff> Or am I stupid?
[08:42] <Tomiii> souplady: You should buy an Ethernet USB adapter anyway, grandma will appreciate it.
[08:42] <Tomiii> souplady: they are cheap on MonoPrice.com
[08:44] <C_minus> Right now stuck on splash screen, anything I can do to diagnose problem?
[08:44] <winsoff> Nevermind, it does not seem to do just fine.
[08:44] <daftykins> C_minus: try booting with nomodeset ; or give us more details about the system so we don't have to guess
[08:45] <C_minus> No. Just tell me if I can hit a key combination that brings up terminal.
[08:45] <C_minus> 14.04
[08:45] <winsoff> Oh, I can just use systemd-analyze. No worries.
[08:47] <wyrie> C_minus: daftykins suggestion is a good one. You'll get to see some more output, you might not even be able to access terminal yet - all depending on what is wrong
[08:47] <C_minus> Does there exist a key combination or not?
[08:47] <daftykins> C_minus: "no" ? either do what i say or forget it :)
[08:47] <daftykins> you have a poor attitude today
[08:47] <rubytor> C_minus:what about ctrl + alt + (f1/f2/f3/f4/f5/f6)??
[08:48] <C_minus> I've been here to explain this problem hundreds of times to no avail. Besides I'm typing on a phone.
[08:48] <daftykins> in that case i await the link to the summary of what the situation is, in a friendly pastebin
[08:49] <C_minus> I'm just recalling that last time someone said try hitting alt + something
[08:49] <Bent0> Is there any way to make Ubuntu a little more resilient against power loss? We have a few Raspberries we use for customers which powercycle just fine. But we also have a few Shuttle mini PC's running and when they lose power they need to be fscked everytime.
[08:49] <C_minus> Sorry don't mean to be unpleasant.
[08:49] <C_minus> Thanks rubytor that's what I'm asking I'll try
[08:49] <daftykins> then try removing 'quiet splash' from the boot params
[08:50] <Viking667> Is there a separate IRC channel where I can ask audio-related questions?
[08:50] <daftykins> Viking667: no
[08:50] <daftykins> unless #ubuntu-studio is active
[08:51] <Viking667> hm. my VLC plays sound differently from mplayer, the audio sounds considerably filtered, like a bandpass or notch filter is in place.
[08:51] <daftykins> tried resetting your VLC config?
[08:51] <Viking667> good point, I don't know how to do that.
[08:52] <Viking667> I'll go look that up now.
[08:52] <Viking667> I'll also check out what plugins are enabled.
[08:53] <DF3D2> cause im beginning to feel like a rap god
[08:54] <hateball> Viking667: Are you using vanilla ubuntu? It is possible that VLC uses a different audio backend than mplayer. Like going through gstreamer
[08:54] <dafb> um in my latest update it listed a chromium plugin; but i don't have chromium-browser installed?
[08:55] <Viking667> hateball: good question. I'm using a mixture of Ubuntu studio and vanilla...
[08:55] <Viking667> i.e. the main body of programs come from vanilla. I'll check where the gstreamer comes from.
[08:55] <dafb> package == chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra
[08:57] <C_minus> I can't remember how but someone showed me once. How to one-off boot without splash.
[08:57] <Viking667> nope, gstreamer plays it fine.
[08:57] <Viking667> mplayer plays it fine, so I'm guessing it's just vlc and whatever it calls.
[08:58] <Ben64> vlc tends to mess with stuff more
[08:59] <rubytor> C_minus: change /etc/default/grub... GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""
[09:00] <rubytor> C_minus: and sudo update-grub
[09:00] <C_minus> How can I do that without successfully booting first?
[09:02] <rubytor> C_minus: getting the terminal just how I told you!!
[09:02] <Layl> I've got about half a TB of data accross 2 drives, what's the best way to backup this in a way that I can restore my old system and access individual files if needed
[09:03] <hateball> !backup | Layl
[09:04] <Layl> hateball: well it's just single-fire currenctly, on a currently non-linux system
[09:04] <Layl> thanks for the links though I'm looking through them
[09:04] <Viking667> well, resetting the VLC configuration at least fixed things
[09:05] <kolo> How can I read this page: http://quantummechanicsdemystified.blogspot.com/2008/08/quantum-mechanics-demystified-erratta.html ?
[09:05] <kolo> it does not show pdfs?!
[09:05] <Viking667> what browser are you using?
[09:05] <Whoppie> Hi!
[09:06] <kolo> ff, Viking667
[09:06] <Viking667> hm.
[09:07] <kolo> firefox ff
[09:07] <Viking667> yes, I did realise that.
[09:07] <Whoppie> daftykins: if you remember me from yesterday (dell issue), the command "ar x packagename" outputs two tarballs from the package. unpack the one named control will give you the postinst script :)
[09:08] <Viking667> Chrome merely sits spinning wheels saying "Typesetting..."
[09:08] <daftykins> Whoppie: ok but that doesn't help me in anyway - since it was your issue :P did you actually find the issue then?
[09:08] <OerHeks> kolo, just click on the url under the empty field, like "Quantum Mechanics Demystified Errata Ch 2"  and the new page is readable
[09:09] <Layl> quickly skimming over these links, it looks like it's mostly for setting up backups on an already linux system
[09:09] <Layl> I'm trying to crate a backup of my existing windows install in preparation for switching to linux
[09:09] <Gallomimia> try this procedure to backup an important windows install:
[09:10] <Gallomimia> unplug drive. remove drive. put in mylar bag on shelf until needed.
[09:10] <daftykins> Layl: you should have said that from the beginning. try clonezilla
[09:10] <Viking667> OerHeks: thanks for that.
[09:10] <Whoppie> daftykins: not yet, but i ran the postinst script directly from the prompt and that worked. so there is something with the package itself. Was thinking of debugging the scriptfile and was wondering if you have any idea on how to output lines to the console, eg. printf or something like that? brb, gonna fetch some coffee
[09:10] <Layl> daftykins: thanks I'll take a look at that
[09:10] <macopython> Can I change user's default shell to my own shell developed in Python ?
[09:14] <llldino> macopython, Yes, you can use "chsh"
[09:14] <macopython> Ok llldino
[09:14] <llldino> Just make sure the path to the shell you want is in /etc/shells
[09:14] <macopython> So if I use chsh then user can't use bash. right ?
[09:15] <Layl> daftykins: can individual files in a clonezilla image be accessed?
[09:15] <daftykins> someone once said no
[09:15] <llldino> Provided that /bin/bash is non executable for them, yes
[09:18] <Viking667> macopython: just be aware that creating your own "shell" had better be 'secure' as such, or else you're likely to strike big problems.
[09:24] <daftykins> Layl: so what's the plan, image up your entire OS disk... then you want to wipe it and try out Ubuntu - having a restore path if necessary?
[09:24] <Layl> yep, though using my secondary drive for data
[09:24] <Layl> I need to transfer a few files just to be sure though
[09:24] <Layl> I've got some files that are pretty important for me to keep
[09:25] <daftykins> Layl: so are they of sufficient size that you could just image up the OS disk onto the storage?
[09:25] <Layl> I could copypaste all the files manually uncompressed and it would still fit 10 times
[09:25] <daftykins> given it's the OS drive, i can't see what you'd need to have access to from Linux...
[09:26] <daftykins> (if it were imaged up)
[09:26] <Layl> there's some documents I want to be able to access
[09:26] <Layl> as well as misc configurations for different programs
[09:26] <daftykins> i can't think those would be much use on Linux
[09:27] <Layl> all different just-in-case stuff that you only realize you needed after you've already wiped your system and have settled in a new one
[09:27] <daftykins> maybe just a straight-up "dd" of the Windows partition over into an image file on the other, then
[09:27] <Layl> just the entire drive to an .iso? that would probably work
[09:27] <Viking667> I'm guessing "dd" would be a better fit than rsync.
[09:27] <daftykins> not an ISO no, an image file
[09:28] <hateball> daftykins, Layl: any reason you're not using clonezilla/partimag ?
[09:28] <hateball> as that would be more space efficient than dd
[09:28] <Gallomimia> agreed. dd is one of best solutions
[09:28] <daftykins> hateball: someone in here once claimed you can't open clonezilla images to pick and choose files
[09:28] <daftykins> i've never verified that claim
[09:28] <Gallomimia> but i stand by my earlier recommendation to just leave your windows drive be. install the ubuntu onto a different physical drive
[09:29] <daftykins> i'd be willing to bet it's an SSD there's only one of, so there's a cost angle
[09:29] <Layl> I don't have a spare SSD no
[09:29] <daftykins> aww yeah \o/ where's my prize?
[09:29] <Layl> I do have 2 spare HDDs that used to be my previous RAID setup
[09:29] <Layl> they're proooobably not corrupted
[09:29] <hateball> daftykins: well yes, that's true. you'd need to restore the image into a filesystem (which can be a file on your ext4 partition if you like)
[09:29] <Gallomimia> almost wish i could mail you one that i have sitting right here
[09:29] <daftykins> Layl: are the pairs individual size greater than that of the SSD?
[09:30] <Layl> much much much greater size
[09:30] <daftykins> right, it's settled then... clonezilla the SSD to one of those, then go nuts.
[09:30] <Layl> eeegh I would have to grab a screwdriver and open up the thing
[09:31] <daftykins> i'll fetch the tiny violin
[09:31] <Gallomimia> case that has no tool-less entry?
[09:31] <Gallomimia> you only need one tool in that case: hammer
[09:31] <Viking667> daftykins: the really really small one?
[09:31] <Layl> it does have tool-less entry but the HDDs are screwed in place
[09:31] <daftykins> Viking667: yeah :)
[09:31] <Viking667> Layl: hah. So much for tool-less then.
[09:31] <Gallomimia> no one said you need to screw the drive in place
[09:31] <daftykins> you don't fully fit a drive that's going to be in there for a few minutes...
[09:31] <Gallomimia> just hook it up for a few hours and then take it out again
[09:32] <Viking667> I've seen cases that screw rails to the hard drives, then fit rails into cradle.
[09:32] <Viking667> But that doesn't always seem to be the case.
[09:32] <Gallomimia> but one piece of advice
[09:32] <Layl> fair enough, I'll go grab the hammer
[09:32] <Gallomimia> don't let the drive's board touch anything metal.
[09:32] <Gallomimia> anything.
[09:32] <Layl> there's a lot of metal in this case
[09:32] <Gallomimia> right
[09:32] <Gallomimia> so lay it on its back
[09:32] <Gallomimia> or get your damn screwdriver
[09:33] <Viking667> better make sure it's the correct screwdriver for the screw head.
[09:33] <Gallomimia> trust me on this one.
[09:33] <Viking667> and make sure you pop off enough panels.
[09:33] <daftykins> and back on topic we go
[09:33] <Gallomimia> short circuiting your drive's board sucks. a lot
[09:33] <Viking667> yup. I've done that.
[09:33] <Viking667> shorted out my power supply.
[09:33] <daftykins> Viking667: off topic.
[09:34] <Gallomimia> hm. that makes sense now. Viking667 i also lost the drive itself
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> back to ubuntu support guys
[09:34] <mowalle> Hey. In Ubuntu 15.10, the message indicator does not turn blue for me when I receive new mail. It plays the sound and shows the counter when I click on it, but the icon does not change. Worked fine in 14.04 and 15.04
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> ##hardware for such issues
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> mowalle: there's a nice indicator for gmail gm-notify pretty handy
[09:37] <mowalle> lotuspsychje: I'm not using gmail though. Hotmail/Outlook via Thunderbird.
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> mowalle: file a new bug perhaps? or try it on another user?
[09:39] <Gallomimia> assume you tinkered with the settings for notifications already?
[09:40]  * Viking667 departs
[09:40] <Viking667> thanks for the help.
[09:40] <Gallomimia> gnight
[09:40] <mowalle> Gallomimia: yes, I tried enabling and disabling, doesn't change anything. I also use the same settings as in 15.04 and 14.04 and it works there just fine.
[09:41] <Gallomimia> its something odd. as lotuspsychje suggests, create a new user and see if they have the same problem
[09:41] <Gallomimia> if yes, you found a bug. report it
[09:42] <mowalle> lotuspsychje, Gallomimia: Yep will file this as a bug then, just hoped there was some solution or work around.
[09:42] <daftykins> or it could be the result of upgrades, if applicable
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> mowalle: maybe you could also take a look inside dconf-editor, not sure wich value though..
[09:42] <Gallomimia> mowalle: i think more investigation is warranted before calling it a bug
[09:42] <Gallomimia> seems more likely to me that it is a result of upgrades
[09:42] <edoderoo> I can only copy files to my webdav-folder with SUDO ... where does it go wrong?
[09:43] <mowalle> Okay I will dig some deeper then.
[09:43] <Gallomimia> edoderoo: maybe you need to find out and change the permissions on your webdav folder?
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> mowalle: another option also test another email program? geary perhaps?
[09:43] <Gallomimia> other notifications from different programs?
[09:43] <Gallomimia> maybe growl crashed?? restart could fix...
[09:45] <mowalle> Alright I will try your suggestions and then get back to you. Cheers.
[09:45] <Gallomimia> good luck
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> i have a customer with 3 trusty boxes up to date, only the desktop recognizes the samsung ML-1665 printer and the 2 laptops doesnt by default, tried installing the latest samsung drivers and restarting cups but no joy, system just doesnt see the printer any clues?
[09:51] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: how's it attached?
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: oh usb sorry forgot to mention
[09:51] <daftykins> seen ok looking dmesg output when it's plugged in?
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: yeah tried a tail at syslog but nothing seems to happen
[09:52] <daftykins> hopefully no USB 3.0 ports confusing it
[09:52] <daftykins> ah well "dmesg | tail" should show USB connection
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: tried all ports on the laptops, but that would make sense
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: cups runs by default on laptops the same way it doesn for desktop right?
[09:53] <daftykins> yep shouldn't be any distinction
[09:53] <daftykins> you could compare the entries on http://localhost:631 for the CUPS interface i guess
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: well ive tried the local cups page, and cant even add an usb printer there
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> very weird
[09:54] <daftykins> O_O
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: but im not sure ive upgrade from precise to trusty on the desktop anymore, perhaps the clean installed laptops cant recognize anymore?
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: apt-cache doesnt show anything usefull for samsung neither
[09:56] <daftykins> so you think maybe the desktop was upgraded to 14.04?
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: yes i think so, and the printer worked on precise before im sure
[09:57] <daftykins> i wonder if a user must be in a group to handle cups?
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: hmm not sure
[09:59] <anes> help to remove whitespace in minidom , any body help please
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: well ill bring the printer to my home next time, and test both on my trusty netbook and xenial desktop to see..
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: its just so weird it doesnt auto recognizes like the trusty desktop
[09:59] <daftykins> yeah, very funky
[10:00] <daftykins> can't say i've dealt with printers mind
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: wich package would hold printer drivers, or is it built-in kernel also
[10:03] <daftykins> genuinely no idea there!
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> kk ill test them localy later
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: tnx for the thinker
[10:04] <daftykins> ^_^ np
[10:07] <Whoppie> Question: whats the difference between dash and bash (if any)?
[10:08] <geirha> Whoppie: They are both POSIX compliant shells, but have different sets of extensions
[10:08] <geirha> dash has very few extensions beyond POSIX, while bash has many
[10:09] <Whoppie> hm, then I would go for bash. Thanks!
[10:10] <geirha> If it's for login shell, then yes, go for bash. The dash shipped with Ubuntu is a stripped down version of dash, without the interactive stuff
[10:11] <Whoppie> geirha: difficult question to answer maybe, but what could break if I rm /bin/sh && ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh ?
[10:11] <geirha> Whoppie: Nothing should break, your system would just get a little slower
[10:11] <Whoppie> geirha: Cool, thanks, I'll test then :)
[10:12] <geirha> Why do you bother changing /bin/sh if I may ask?
[10:14] <Whoppie> geirha: (Stupid) DELL Inventory collector that wont run with dash because of typesets missing.
[10:14] <xubuntu> 1
[10:15] <Whoppie> But I'm not sure it'll work anyway...
[10:15] <Guest28943> 1
[10:15] <k1l_> Whoppie: do you have a reason to change the /bin/sh to bash instead of dash?
[10:15] <Guest28943> have
[10:15] <Whoppie> but at least it executes without errors now
[10:15] <geirha> Whoppie: Ouch. I'd rather fix that one broken script, rather than change /bin/sh
[10:15] <Whoppie> k1l_: see answer to geirha a few lines up
[10:16] <Whoppie> geirha: yea, tell DELL that :)
[10:16] <k1l_> Whoppie: ah, sorry i am multitasking and had overread that
[10:16] <Whoppie> k1l_: np :)
[10:16] <geirha> e.g. by changing its shebang to  #!/bin/bash
[10:16] <geirha> or by running the script with   bash ./scriptname   instead of   ./scriptname
[10:17] <Whoppie> geirha: Dell OpenManage Server Administration for Linux is a mess to install, setup&configure and to maintain...
[10:17] <Whoppie> geirha: the execution is done through a kind of webinterface which is somewhat difficult for me to change as well im afraid :)
[10:18] <Whoppie> geirha:  the postinst script for this particular module starts with #!/bin/bash but im pretty sure thats not what you mean.
[10:19] <geirha> Oh well, let's hope they at least didn't do the same mistakes as Valve
[10:20] <Whoppie> which were...?
[10:21] <geirha> It accidentally deleted the user's homedir in some cases
[10:21] <Whoppie> LOL!
[10:24] <AndChat464025> !ping
[10:33] <Whoppie> geirha: how to I revert the sh/bash change i did earlier? :)
[10:33] <sab> Hi, where should I put self written scripts in the directory tree?
[10:33] <Whoppie> geirha: Would rm /bin/sh && ln -s /bin/sh /bin/bash do the trick?
[10:34] <mettjus> hi! i have a machine with ubuntu 12.04 (kernel 3.11.0-20-generic) but i need to have at least kernel 3.13 to install some software. can i upgrade the kernel? if yes how risky is that?
[10:35] <Whoppie> geirha or k1l_: how to i tell what im using, sh och bash/dash? :)
[10:35] <Whoppie> och=or
[10:35] <geirha> sudo ln -sf dash /bin/sh
[10:36] <geirha> to tell, run:  ls -l /bin/sh
[10:36] <Whoppie> cant access that dir
[10:36] <Whoppie> now i can
[10:36] <Whoppie> thanks!
[10:36] <geirha> if you ran ln -s /bin/sh /bin/bash, you screwed up big time
[10:37] <geirha> if it succeeded, that is
[10:37] <Whoppie> got error, file exists on that line
[10:37] <Whoppie> so i did  rm /bin/bash && ln -s /bin/sh /bin/bash instead.
[10:38] <geirha> phew!
[10:38] <Whoppie> what i break then :)
[10:38] <geirha> you removed bash
[10:38] <Whoppie> because that worked
[10:38] <Whoppie> hm.
[10:38] <Whoppie> not good.
[10:39] <Whoppie> dpkg-reconfigure dash?
[10:39] <geirha> sudo apt reinstall bash  might fix it, but only if none of the scripts involved in reinstalling bash require bash
[10:40] <geirha> err, sorry,  sudo apt-get install --reinstall bash
[10:40] <Whoppie> yea, i kinda figured you ment that :)
[10:40] <Whoppie> yup, worked.
[10:41] <SirPotato> ubuntu
[10:41] <SirPotato> is awesome1
[10:41] <geirha> ls -l /bin/{da,ba,}sh
[10:41] <yellabs-r2> how would i slow down the output of dmesg ? (  autoscrolling like behave )
[10:42] <testpil0t> yellabs-r2, pipe to "less"
[10:42] <testpil0t> dmesg | less
[10:42] <testpil0t> then press space to scroll down
[10:42] <geirha> you can pause the terminal with Ctrl+S.  Ctrl+Q to resume
[10:42] <Whoppie> geirha: got /bin/bash, /bin/dash and /bin/sh -> dash
[10:42] <geirha> Whoppie: That looks good
[10:43] <SirPotato> quick question. Has anyone ever came across a website that acted like a desktop?
[10:43] <testpil0t> SirPotato, as in?
[10:43] <yellabs-r2> can it "autoscroll'?   the dmesg | less ?
[10:43] <SirPotato> http://www.ytcracker.com/v2016/
[10:44] <geirha> yellabs-r2: Shift+F
[10:45] <geirha> ah, but that doesn't work when the input is piped. Sorry. Nevermind.
[10:45] <yellabs-r2> in a script ?
[10:46] <SirPotato> testpil0t, did you see?
[10:46] <SirPotato> How would one go about getting set up like that?
[10:47] <testpil0t> SirPotato, i saw t he same for amigaOS before
[10:47] <hateball> geirha, yellabs-r2: you could use "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" or whatever file you want to keep reading. Or perhaps it has to be dmesg specifically
[10:47] <yellabs-r2> what i am trying to do ( just for fun ) is ( bash ) while dmesg  ; do sleep 1 ; done  ( that shows dmesg , but it does not autoscroll, wich would be fun
[10:48] <yellabs-r2> and more human readable
[10:49] <testpil0t> yellabs-r2, it cannot autoscroll
[10:49] <yellabs-r2> aah too bad, cant we program it ? :)
[10:50] <Whoppie> is there a built-in editor that can jump to a certain line? nano? pico?
[10:50] <SirPotato> testpil0t, No like how would one go about getting a website like that?
[10:50] <geirha> yellabs-r2: just tail kern.log like hateball suggested
[10:50] <hateball> Whoppie: nano +10 file.txt
[10:50] <SirPotato> testpil0t, as in like . Having a website created that mimics the usage of like a desktop?
[10:50] <testpil0t> Whoppie, all editors should be able to do that
[10:50] <hateball> Whoppie: jumps to line 10
[10:50] <geirha> tail -F /var/log/kern.log
[10:50] <testpil0t> yellabs-r2, you can try to use "watch"
[10:51] <testpil0t> current dmesg also has a "follow" option
[10:51] <testpil0t> which looks like tail -f
[10:51] <testpil0t> yellabs-r2, or you clear dmesg
[10:51] <k1l_> SirPotato: better ask in a website scripting/making orientated channel
[10:51] <testpil0t> while true; do dmesg -c; sleep 1; done
[10:52] <testpil0t> SirPotato, i agree with k1l_. Other than that: Some javascript :P
[10:52] <SirPotato> k1l_, do you have a channel like that I may be able to ask?
[10:52] <SirPotato> testpil0t, its okay bro! I appreciate it though lol I thought those websites were pretty interesting how they made them lol
[10:52] <testpil0t> i bet there is some webdesign chat on freenode
[10:53] <testpil0t> or javascript
[10:53] <testpil0t> or html5
[10:53] <testpil0t> or css
[10:53] <testpil0t> :p
[10:53] <Whoppie> thanks testpil0t. used alt+g in nano... dont ask me why i didnt google first before asking here :)
[10:53] <k1l_> !alis | SirPotato use this to find channels
[10:53] <SirPotato> ahhh alright
[10:53] <SirPotato> I gotcha thank you both =)
[10:56] <Whoppie> hm, geirha, i think i broke something afterall. now the script wont run at all, throws error that file or directory doesnt exist
[10:56] <Whoppie> hm.
[10:56] <Whoppie> or wait
[11:02] <pazzoide> Ciao a tutti, mi serve una mano: ho appena installato lubuntu x64, ma non riesco a installare nuovo software.
[11:02] <pazzoide> sudo apt-get update mi dà http://paste.ubuntu.com/14477170/
[11:03] <k1l_> pazzoide: 14.10 is EOL. upgrade ti 15.04
[11:04] <pazzoide> ma hoappena  installato la 15.10 selezionando cancella ubuntu e reinstalla
[11:05] <pazzoide> vabbeh, ricancellerò a mano e reinstallo. grazie kll_
[11:05] <k1l_> !it | pazzoide
[11:06] <pazzoide> oops sorry, i though it was the it channel. thanx anyway for support kll_
[11:07] <k1l_> pazzoide: you can run the upgrader and upgrade to 15.04. and then do the next upgrade to 15.10 because 15.04 will be shutdown end of january too
[11:14] <yellabs-r2> okee bye and thnks
[11:15] <Whoppie> geirha: solved the issue with bash/sh in the file. now on to try figuring out why the damn thing aint working as intended anyway. if dell doesnt step up soon they will get a nice letter reading "go die"... *sigh*
[11:16] <Whoppie> oh and geirha, thanks for all the help!
[11:17] <qqqqq> Is it possible to see find out via boot partition what the keyboard layout is when you enter the decryption password of the system?
[11:17] <Nightwolf> hi, i'm using a thinkpad t430 in a docking station with two displays attached with displayport. whenever i turn off both displays my notebook goes to standby. how can i change this?
[11:18] <qqqqq> I have an old hard disk I can not seem to get my password right. I might have used a different keyboard layout.
[11:20] <Reza> hi
[11:20] <myntcake> how do i install/upgrade to php7?
[11:21] <testpil0t> myntcake, check if there is some ppa. Other than t hat: compile and install it manually
[11:22] <myntcake> testpil0t: how do i do manually?
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:27] <BrazenBraden> hey guys. busy getting my laptop all configured with my new ubuntu gnome 15.10 install. the touchpad works but I dont have multitouch so things like scrolling with double finger swipe not working. I have installed touchegg but nothing. when I type "synclient TouchpadOff" it gives me the error "Couldnt find synaptics properties. No snyaptics driver loaded?" and I have installed the xorg synaptics stuff. what else can I try?
[11:34] <Whoppie> Question: is it possible to see the commands of another session? a monitoring system for example, which accesses a linuxsystem with certain credentials. can i somehow see what is done in that session?
[11:44] <BrazenBraden> running dmesg | grep psmouse produces no output and the touchpad doesnt look like "ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad" or similar. xinput shows (under Virtual Core Pointer):  ⎜   ↳ ELAN1000:00 04F3:0401                   	id=11	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[11:50] <qqqqq> I have attached an external HD via USB. When I click on the entry in Dolphin I get prompted for a password but none work.
[11:50] <qqqqq> Do I have to load the kernel modules via modprobe on the command line?
[11:50] <qqqqq> I must be doing something wrong.
[11:51] <qqqqq> I tried dozens and dozens of password. Impossible that all re wrong
[11:51] <qqqqq> The password asked for in Dolphin is the same as the one for the encrypted LVM when I start up the machine, right?
[11:51] <Ben64> qqqqq: password for what
[11:51] <qqqqq> Ben64, for the disk
[11:52] <Ben64> is the external disk encrypted?
[11:52] <k1l_> qqqqq: try your user password
[11:52] <qqqqq> k1l_, I did, doesn?t work
[11:52] <k1l_> so the external hd is encrypted?
[11:52] <kolo> I need this pdfs: http://quantummechanicsdemystified.blogspot.com/2008/08/quantum-mechanics-demystified-erratta.html but they are not opened in my ff! I get an error saying: 'A plugin is needed to display'
[11:53] <k1l_> kolo: click on the link below the embedded window and load it from scribd directly
[12:00] <anao2_> hi guys, does anyone know why on some ubuntu/debian is fstrim disabled at fresh setup by default??
[12:01] <kolo> k1l_: +1
[12:01] <LibertyWeNeed> how do I add and remove programs from Ubuntu and/or there icons from the dashboard?
[12:03] <k1l_> anao2_: disabled? can you give a lot more infos on exact ubuntu version, which kernel, which ssd, which error? etc?
[12:07] <anao2_> @k1l_ fstrim -v shows not activated at kernel mostly debian-8.2 servers with SSD
[12:07] <k1l_> anao2_: not on ubuntu
[12:07] <anao2_> i have to fix lvm.conf and upgrade-initramfs
[12:07] <anao2_> no
[12:07] <k1l_> better ask in #debian how they handle fstrim
[12:08] <anao2_> but why is ubuntu active and debian prevent users from usage??
[12:08] <mattia_> Hi
[12:08] <anao2_> found no release notes on net
[12:08] <k1l_> anao2_: maybe they go with discard mountoption. but again: ask them why, not ask others to guess
[12:08] <anao2_> ok thanks
[12:09] <anao2_> i will keep closer look
[12:09] <anao2_> some howtos offers infos about damaged SSDs with the usage of fstrim!!
[12:09] <anao2_> see debian-SSD area
[12:09] <k1l_> anao2_: ---> #debian
[12:09] <mattia_> I wanted to know if there is any software for ssd caching in linux.
[12:10] <anao2_> but iam confused why ubuntu basics far away from deb
[12:10] <anao2_> thanks k1l_
[12:10] <k1l_> anao2_: its based on debian. not exactly debian. that was the reason to make ubuntu at the start. to do some things differently.
[12:18] <BrazenBraden> back. had to reboot
[12:18] <myntcake> how do i install phpmyadmin on php7??
[12:20] <bazhang> !info phpmyadmin
[12:21] <bazhang> myntcake, with apt
[12:29] <BrazenBraden> well, looks like it just aint meant to be :/
[12:30] <BrazenBraden> someone direct a message "foo" or whatever to me. tabbing away from xchat and want to see if i get a notification that i got a message :)
[12:31] <hateball> !test | BrazenBraden
[12:32] <BrazenBraden> nope
[12:32] <BrazenBraden> thanks guys.. hmm.. lets see
[12:33] <bazhang> BrazenBraden, is that hexchat? works on that
[12:33] <BrazenBraden> xchat
[12:33] <bazhang> thats the old one
[12:33] <BrazenBraden> just tweaking my settings.  gimme a sec
[12:33] <cfhowlett> BrazenBraden, xchat is abandonware.  install hexchat
[12:33] <BrazenBraden> really?? i've always used xchat lol
[12:33] <BrazenBraden> will install hex now
[12:33] <BrazenBraden> not gonna get a curse will i? :P
[12:33] <bazhang> #hexchat has a nifty script on howto move settings
[12:34] <k1l_> BrazenBraden: you can use your old config with hexchat
[12:34] <bazhang> or link, sorry
[12:34] <BrazenBraden> takes 10 seconds to get going to its all good
[12:35] <BrazenBraden> heh. freenode not in the list of networks
[12:36] <bazhang> BrazenBraden, its listed as ubuntu servers
[12:37] <BrazenBraden> ah so it is
[12:38] <BrazenBraden> brb
[12:39] <BrazenBraden> alrighty
[12:40] <myntcake> bazhang: no i can't install it with apt since it's php7 and not php5
[12:40] <myntcake> how do i change permissions to a folder so i can own it?
[12:40] <BrazenBraden> ok, try the test again?
[12:40] <phpcoder> hello
[12:40] <phpcoder> what driver should i install to work with smart card ?
[12:41] <phpcoder> (digital sign)
[12:41] <phpcoder> ?
[12:42] <karthik__> Hello, Im new to Ubuntu. Im using p4 system with realtek audio. I had connected 5.1 surround speakers to my pc. but ubuntu showing the stereo speakers
[12:46] <BrazenBraden> someone ping me?
[12:48] <anonymous287> how to knew which port is open in my machine ?
[12:49] <cfhowlett> !ports > anonymous287
[12:50] <LegendThinker> hey.... could not solve issue of dropping wifi in ubuntu 14.04
[12:51] <BrazenBraden> anyone know which IM client works now with facebook chat if any?
[12:51] <LegendThinker> and some times it dont even connect again even after disabling and enabling again the wifi
[12:52] <LegendThinker> and work only after restart
[12:56] <blurkis> LegendThinker, your wifi card might have bad drivers. some cards are badly supported. if that is the case, buy a cheap usb wifi that is supported.
[12:57] <AndChat464025> !ping
[13:01] <BrazenBraden> no takers? i know fb changed the protocol last year and since august, no IM i used (pidgin or empathy) could connect any longer. was wondering if anything regarding that has changed?
[13:05] <anton02> E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-zfs
[13:06] <RMJ> hello all - having a problem: my notebook running 15.10 now doesn't boot - I get a message "fsck from util-linux 2.26.2 /dev/sda9: clean....." - it booted fine to ubuntu a few hours ago. The change I have made has been switching display manager from lightDM to GDM when trying to install gnome 3, but it has also updated. I get the same when I try to
[13:06] <RMJ>  boot from a slightly older kernel as well.  Any advice? Thank you.
[13:15] <ren0v0> Hi, i have an app that refuses to bring itself to the front window when clicked from unity launhc
[13:15] <ren0v0> is that an app issue or something i can fix?
[13:16] <hackeron> hey, question, when I run ifconfig -a - I can see a device enx364b50b7ef44 - this is a 3G dongle and each one has a different device name. Is there any way to tell the /etc/network/interfaces file to try to use DHCP on any device name starting with enx*?
[13:16] <raub> Have a host whose firewall is off and has a few services running. ncat says I can connect to the services, but I can't.
[13:17] <raub> If I turn service off and have netcat listening on that port and then try to connect from another machine, it claims it connects but I can type to my heart's content and nothign happens
[13:17] <PowerKiller> hackeron: It seems it's possible
[13:18] <raub> I am connecting to offending machine from console tor un my tests
[13:18] <hackeron> PowerKiller: how? :P
[13:19] <orf_> Hey there, I'm trying to get my bluetooth headset working with the 'a2dp_sink'. At first it works, but then it simply says "pulseaudio] module-bluez5-device.c: Refused to switch profile to a2dp_sink: Not connected" in the syslog
[13:19] <PowerKiller> I dk, but I have done it before
[13:20] <orf_> Last time this happened I uninstalled pulseaudio and bluetooth, then reinstalled and it worked. But that's a horrible way to fix it
[13:20] <hackeron> PowerKiller: I tried iface enx* inet dhcp - but that is ignored by the interface file
[13:20] <PowerKiller> hmm, may be experienced people can tell
[13:39] <kleinz_> hi everyone, is this the place for me to ask questions?
[13:39] <ikonia> if it's about ubuntu it sure is
[13:40] <kleinz_> @ikonia thank you!
[13:40] <kleinz_> actually I am having a seriously hard time to increase the /root partition from my ubuntu. :(
[13:41] <kleinz_> no idea how to get it fixed, but havent been able to update my ubuntu as a result
[13:41] <kleinz_> and I already tried a bunch of stuff online but nothing seems to work, or maybe I haven´t been able to follow up, :(
[13:41] <cfhowlett> kleinz_, increase the size?  why?
[13:41] <kleinz_> because I can´t update my ubuntu anymore
[13:41] <k1l_> kleinz_: can you put a "df -h" in the terminal and the output into a pastebin website?
[13:42] <kleinz_> ok
[13:43] <trixo> hi guys
[13:43] <kleinz_> do I just paste it in here?
[13:43] <cfhowlett> kleinz_, df -h | pastebinit
[13:43] <kleinz_> what is the pastebin? I am sorry, I haven´t used irc for almost ten years.. :(
[13:43] <k1l_> kleinz_: put the link to the pastebin service in here
[13:43] <Myrtti> kleinz_: you can remove the old kernels to make up space, if you're running out
[13:43] <k1l_> !paste | kleinz_
[13:44] <Myrtti> kleinz_: (if that's your problem)
[13:44] <trixo> can somebudy help me with apache|php|sendmail ? :)
[13:44] <kleinz_> thanks. going to check it out.
[13:44] <lazaro> Hi everyone
[13:47] <kleinz_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14477798/
[13:47] <k1l_> kleinz_: so your /boot is full?
[13:47] <kleinz_> it is almost full
[13:47] <kleinz_> but I just want to increase the capacity
[13:47] <k1l_> kleinz_: can you show a "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" in a pastebin?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> kleinz_ nope.  just clean it out
[13:50] <kleinz_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14477822/
[13:51] <k1l_> kleinz_: run a "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[13:51] <satinder> Hi any one here
[13:51] <satinder> ??
[13:51] <kleinz_> I had tried that before, a couple of times
[13:52] <kleinz_> hope it works this time
[13:52] <satinder> kleinz_ : hi
[13:53] <satinder> how we can use both wifi and static ip ethernet on unbuntu ??
[13:53] <kleinz_> hi satinder
[13:53] <satinder> is it possible
[13:53] <satinder> ??
[13:53] <satinder> or not
[13:53] <kleinz_> I am sorry, I am not the expert here :(
[13:53] <satinder> :(
[13:53] <cfhowlett> !patience > satinder
[13:53] <kleinz_> thanks k1l I think this time worked well! :)
[13:54] <kleinz_> I don´t know what I had done wrong last time, maybe was not typing the command properly
[13:55] <cfhowlett> kleinz_, run df -h again and let's see
[13:55] <k1l_> kleinz_: did it remove some old kernels?
[13:55] <satinder> hi  can anyone help me , how I can use both wifi and cable network on ubuntu ??
[13:55] <kleinz_> this time it removed everything
[13:56] <kleinz_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14477844/
[13:56] <satinder> ??
[13:56] <cfhowlett> satinder, you have to be patient.  asking every 3 minutes is just annoying.  try 15 minutes
[13:56] <satinder> ok
[13:56] <kleinz_> which one is the /root?
[13:57] <kleinz_> /dev/sdal right?
[13:57] <k1l_> kleinz_: /   is /root. but /boot is the one that is the issue
[13:57] <cfhowlett> kleinz_, /boot is where kernels live
[13:57] <k1l_> kleinz_: "ls -alh /boot" please
[13:57] <kleinz_> oh ok. then this time seems to be ok? because I was just able to update and still have 150m available
[13:58] <cfhowlett> kleinz_, nice.  for future reference:  http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-uninstall-the-old-kernels-in-ubuntu/
[13:58] <kleinz_> hold on
[13:59] <kleinz_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14477861/
[13:59] <kleinz_> thanks a lot guys
[14:01] <k1l_> kleinz_: no, do a "ls -alh /boot "
[14:01] <kleinz_> ok
[14:02] <kleinz_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14477876/
[14:03] <k1l_> kleinz_: what is "uname -a" you can post it in here
[14:04] <kleinz_> Linux clarkk-300E4C-300E5C-300E7C 4.2.0-21-generic #25-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 2 18:42:25 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:05] <k1l_> kleinz_: ok, looks good. when you reboot and are on the latest kernel you could see if you run "sudo apt-get autoremove" again to get rid of the -19 kernel there.
[14:05] <kleinz_> thank you so much. I will do that then. thanks a lot for the help. :)
[14:06] <kleinz_> I am really thankful. going to restart it then. a thousand thanks! :)
[14:12] <razor1101> hi
[14:12] <RMJ> hello all - having a problem: my notebook running 15.10 now doesn't boot - I get a message "fsck from util-linux 2.26.2 /dev/sda9: clean....." - it booted fine to ubuntu a few hours ago. The change I have made has been switching display manager from lightDM to GDM when trying to install gnome 3, but it has also updated. I get the same when I try to
[14:12] <RMJ>  boot from a slightly older kernel as well.  Any advice? Thank you.
[14:13] <razor1101> my laptop doesn't boot ubuntu on battery but works fine with power supply. where are the boot logs for ubuntu stored?
[14:15] <leeyaa> hi
[14:15] <leeyaa> can one check when was the system last updated ? like a date
[14:15] <hateball> razor1101: What manner of laptop is this?
[14:15] <hateball> razor1101: Logs are found in /var/log
[14:16] <hateball> razor1101: Some laptops refuse to boot if the battery is dead and in place
[14:18] <razor1101> hateball: well windows boots just fine so battery isn't a problem. the laptop has a amd chipset.
[14:19] <leeyaa> guys does this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1317811 affect 3.13.0-24 ?
[14:20] <razor1101> hateball: i'm looking for logs in particular to previous boots. where do i find them?
[14:20] <sharms> razor1101: your logs are stored in /var/log/messages - there you will see logs from your current and previous boots
[14:21] <sharms> razor1101: however if your laptop does not boot at all on battery, then it wouldnt have generate logs
[14:21] <sharms> since it never actually started
[14:21] <sharms> razor1101: I have tested literally 100's of laptops with Ubuntu and have never seen a laptop refuse to boot ubuntu on battery, but allow Windows to boot on battery if that helps
[14:22] <razor1101> sharms: it boots ubuntu on battery and crashes right in the middle of the boot
[14:22] <razor1101> and that only happens on battery
[14:22] <hateball> Sounds ACPI related
[14:23] <razor1101> it booted just fine before I updated ubuntu a week ago
[14:23] <sharms> razor1101: if you have a funky video card before you upgrade video drivers I have seen that (not battery related).  When you boot and hit the boot loader screen (grub) hit the e key to edit, then go down to the line that starts with 'linux', it the 'end' key and type ' nomodeset'
[14:23] <sharms> see if that helps
[14:24] <nni> "Cannot change nickname while banned on channel" does anyone what this is suppoed to mean?
[14:25] <razor1101> sharms:what does this indicate?  init: mdm main process (989) killed by TERM signal
[14:26] <sharms> razor1101: it appears that the system wants to shutdown, and is terminating programs to do so
[14:26] <sharms> razor1101: maybe that is your battery - ie if the system thinks its less than 10%, or your bios, it could be telling everything to shut off
[14:26] <sharms> razor1101: what do your battery stats say once you are booted on AC?
[14:27] <razor1101> well i'm gonna do the nomodeset thing and go from there.
[14:27] <vici66> Hi guys. I've booted my computer from a lubuntu-USB-stick, prepairing it for a fresh installation. After trying to resize an existing ext4-data-partition (enlarging it) with gparted, its file system is now showed as "unknown", and I somehow can't fix it like this: https://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/repair-a-broken-ext4-superblock-in-ubuntu/. I pressed "apply operations" and instantly got that error, so my data shouldn't be
[14:27] <razor1101> sharms: i'm running on battery right now once its booted up and there are no problems
[14:28] <razor1101> brb
[14:28] <vici66> would be great if I could repair it with something other than mkfs.ext4 -S /dev/sda1
[14:29] <kleanthis> yo
[14:29] <kleanthis> just testing the client out
[14:29] <kleanthis> is this mirc?
[14:29] <kleanthis> irc*
[14:30] <hateball> !irc | kleanthis
[14:30] <cfhowlett> kleanthis, this is ubuntu support irc channel
[14:30] <kleanthis> hellob?
[14:31] <kleanthis> !irc
[14:32] <anonymous287> hello
[14:32] <slidercrank> where can I find a working link with ubuntu netinstall?
[14:32] <anonymous287> how to delete a virtaul machine from vmware workstation 12.1 ?
[14:33] <slidercrank> all links lead to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[14:33] <slidercrank> telling "
[14:33] <slidercrank> The requested page is not accessible."
[14:35] <BluesKaj> !net
[14:36] <slidercrank> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads leads to the page from which you can't download anything
[14:36] <razor1101> sharms:boot using nomodeset worked. thanks. so its a gpu problem?
[14:36] <k1l_> slidercrank: works here
[14:37] <slidercrank> k1l_, really? Strange
[14:37] <k1l_> slidercrank: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot
[14:37] <BluesKaj> !minimal | slidercrank
[14:39] <shahar188> hello
[14:39] <shahar188> how can I delete files in a directory from a certain date?
[14:39] <shahar188> like deleting files from 2013
[14:41] <NoCode> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu, trying to ssh into a server with the "Connect to server" applet from the menu. Correctly typing the details, it suggests, "Please verify your user details" and there an exclamation sign on the password that is already typed in. What am I needing to do to log in?
[14:41] <hateball> shahar188: use find with xargs or pipe to rm
[14:41] <Apachez> got a report from a user using ubuntu live-cd (15.10) that unity doesnt popup an icon in the barlist when the user plugins an encrypted kingston usb drive... anyone familiar with this? Isnt the livecd supposed to automagically show any usb drives you insert?
[14:42] <shahar188> hateball: thanks, i'll try
[14:42] <cfhowlett> Apachez, encrypted?  perhaps not
[14:43] <Apachez> cfhowlett: it got an cleartext part (in windows identified as cd) which shows up first
[14:43] <Apachez> I know it works in lets say kali, but I dont have the particular box in front of me right now to test with ubuntu so I wanted to verify with those who might know directly :)
[14:43] <cfhowlett> Apachez, did he actually mount the USB/
[14:44] <Apachez> I mean doesnt automount work when running ubuntu as livecd?
[14:44] <cfhowlett> and I do not know directly so ... sorry
[14:44] <Apachez> this is very limited users (terminal is scary for them)
[14:45] <slidercrank> BluesKaj, thanks. it's working
[14:45] <hateball> shahar188: I am not sure if Ubuntu Unity might have some GUI for this
[14:48] <sharms> razor1101: Usually with nomodeset, it is because I need to still a new NVidia driver for instance
[14:50] <newU1> I tried to change the special function keys on my MS Natural Multimedia Keyboard V.1.0A I used the app keytouch-editor. I did the installation over the Software Center. I tried to put a function to one of the Multimedia keys. However this shows now success. After that all special function keys doesn't work. I restarted the PC. After the restart Ubuntu shows the message “The system is running in low-graphics mode” the keyboard and
[14:50] <newU1> So I switched to the console and unistalled keytouch-editor.  Now I can use the mouse on the screen “The system is running in low-graphics mode* But the available options have no impact?   I use Ubuntu 14.04 and I am new to Ubuntu (Linux).
[14:50] <newU1> Start-Date: 2016-01-12 12:07:54 Commandline: aptdaemon role='role-commit-packages' sender=':1.101' Install: menu:amd64 (2.1.46ubuntu1, automatic), keytouch-editor:amd64 (3.2.0~beta-3) End-Date: 2016-01-12 12:07:55  Start-Date: 2016-01-12 13:07:12 Commandline: apt-get purge keytouch-editor Purge: keytouch-editor:amd64 (3.2.0~beta-3) End-Date: 2016-01-12 13:07:13
[14:57] <teward> is anyone aware of any extra NetworkManager packages that would need to be installed to get 802.1X / WPA2 Enterprise working as a wireless option?  (Assuming 12.04 and newer)
[14:57] <teward> AFAIK it's a default option, but not sure if theres' anything it needs to work
[14:59] <jnix> what is the "proper" way to make a local ubuntu mirror?
[14:59] <jnix> apt-mirror looks like the easiest
[14:59] <RMJ> is there any way to recover data from an encrypted partition following a partial deletion?
[15:00] <shahar188> did the deletion by using xargs rm < file.txt , put all the file names you want to delete in that file
[15:01] <RMJ> for example .ecryptfs, .private both deleted
[15:13] <Peaceful> Hi im looking for pdf viewer in which you can change background color?
[15:13] <ikonia> thats part of the pdf
[15:13] <ikonia> you'd need to edit the pdf to change things such as colour,
[15:13] <Peaceful> But i need change white background to black
[15:14] <ikonia> the fact that you need to change it doesn't change the reality
[15:14] <Peaceful> pdf viewers on windows can change it
[15:14] <Peaceful> without editing file
[15:14] <ikonia> that surprises me,
[15:14] <ikonia> if thats true then pdf viewers on linux should also.....
[15:14] <cfhowlett> Peaceful, settings > invert colors
[15:14] <terrasapien> Peaceful: pretty sure okular will also let you display a background colour of your choice
[15:14] <Kilb> I like fish.
[15:15] <Peaceful> terrasapien: ok ill try okular
[15:15] <Peaceful> Oh thanks
[15:15] <Peaceful> Im using Evince and i found INVERT COLORS :)
[15:15] <ikonia> is fish a pdf viewer ?
[15:16] <ikonia> I've not heard of it
[15:16] <Peaceful> Now it's awesome
[15:16] <Peaceful> ikonia: he simply likes fish :) Tasty
[15:16] <terrasapien> and healthy, yet off topic here :)
[15:32] <Peaceful> Can i upgrade ubuntu 14 to 15?
[15:32] <ikonia> yes
[15:32] <ikonia> !upgrade | Peaceful
[15:36] <viktor_> hi
[15:36] <viktor_> when I did update-grub2, I got error: failed to get canonical path of `/dev/sda1'