[07:38] <ActionParsnip> zomation: It's a RTL8101E chip
[07:38] <zomation> sorry for flooding
[07:38] <gogeta> bluejeans: synaptic is good for not closing type ps -A in a term see if its still running
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt > bluejeans
[07:38] <zomation> ???
[07:39] <zomation> link to sudo output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/217611/
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> zomation: something like a websearch of     RTL8101E ubuntu     should give good results
[07:39] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: i'll try after checking the logs.. it should work though, using the networkmanager as it finds the ssid, and the password is correct
[07:39] <bluejeans> gogeta: thanks.. but haven't even opened synaptic yet..
[07:39] <zomation> thanks
[07:40] <gogeta> bluejeans: did you sudo
[07:40] <gogeta> lol
[07:40] <gogeta> sudo apt-get
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> zomation: looks like you  need this too: http://www.zyxware.com/articles/628/get-atheros-ar242x-802-11abg-wireless-driver-working-in-ubuntu
[07:41] <zomation> thanks again
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> zomation: np man
[07:41] <zomation> bye
[07:41] <gogeta> heh juging by that response he didnt
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Spad-XIII: you just need to see whats different, maybe one device is using a different module, or different module settings
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Spad-XIII: maybe dmesg shows something different
[07:42] <bluejeans> gogeta: turns out is WAS synaptic.. even though i have never opened it.. was the auto-updates that were crashing the backend
[07:42] <bluejeans> thanks
[07:43] <gogeta> bluejeans: heh yea its relly good for that normaly ps -A shows its still running
[07:43] <Spad-XIII> ActionParsnip: i got the dmesg output saved from the live-usb .. but the lsh isn't really working on the live .. it works fine on the installed
[07:43] <gogeta> anytime apt failes
[07:44] <gogeta> bluejeans: you can eyther sudo killl its pid number or sudo killall synaptic
[07:44] <bluejeans> gogeta: good to know. i'm not used to using package managers.. blah. funner to do manually
[07:45] <Shazburg> bluejeans: says you.
[07:45] <mkelkar> has anyone found solution to fix fan running issue on ubuntu 9.04
[07:45] <SmoKeyCastle> Hi any way to view windows backup files on linux?
[07:45] <mazda01> is anyone aware how get amarok 2.1.1 in jaunty to use mysql? there's no setting within the gui settings?
[07:45] <SmoKeyCastle> specifically i want to view a backup of the contents of my HD that i made a backup of using vista
[07:45] <Shazburg> SmoKeyCastle: what file extension are those again?
[07:46] <mazda01> i have added a line in the amarokrc but it's still not using mysql
[07:46] <gogeta> bluejeans: heh says you
[07:46] <gogeta> bluejeans: apt-get just rocks
[07:46] <mkelkar> has anyone found solution to fix fan running issue on ubuntu 9.04
[07:47] <SmoKeyCastle> .vhd file
[07:47] <gogeta> mkelkar: dunno
[07:47] <gogeta> mkelkar: way to vag to give a answer
[07:47] <bluejeans> gogeta: Shazburg: ok ok. slackware for me.
[07:47] <mazda01> bluejeans, aptitude rocks more than apt-get
[07:47] <mazda01> anyone use amarok and mysql?
[07:47] <gogeta> bluejeans: slackware heh linux hard mode
[07:48] <bluejeans> .. but interesting
[07:48] <mkelkar> gogeta -- I upgraded to 9.04 on Dell D630. since upgrade, I notice that fan keeps running
[07:48] <gogeta> bluejeans: great for a old machine tho
[07:48] <bluejeans> .. or a new one too
[07:48] <mazda01> or have a way to save out the album art from amarok's folder so each folder of my music collection get a .jpg for that album?
[07:48] <Shazburg> SmoKeyCastle: I'm afraid you'll have to get Vista out to view that file. You could install it inside VirtualBox.
[07:49] <SmoKeyCastle> ah :( thanks
[07:49] <gogeta> mkelkar: i would look up that on google maybe someone has made a power mangment scrpit for it
[07:49] <Shazburg> bluejeans: Bob be with you, then.
[07:49] <gogeta> mkelkar: i knoe for all netbooks they do
[07:49] <jorge_> solo ingles
[07:50] <gogeta> mkelkar: strangly enough 9.04 on my c610 the fan hardly ever runs
[07:50] <Shazburg> SmoKeyCastle: The older NT/XP format (.bkf) file can be read with Mtftar, but no dice on the Vista format, afaik.
[07:50] <mkelkar> gogeta -- I found few posts.. but none of them seem to fix the issue
[07:51] <SmoKeyCastle> thanks Shazburg
[07:51] <leave> yep
[07:51] <Frogzoo> is it worth ugprading from 8.04 to 9.04 ??
[07:51] <gogeta> mkelkar: look in power settings maybe you can tweak it
[07:51] <[R]> Frogzoo: well everytihng is a whole year newer
[07:51] <mkelkar> gogeta -- I use to have this issue on 8.10 and turned out to be nvidia drive issue
[07:51] <leave> Frogzoo, Of course
[07:51] <jorge_> i can use automatix
[07:51] <mkelkar> and I downgraded to 177 and it fixed it
[07:52] <Shazburg> Frogzoo: Depends on your needs.
[07:52] <Frogzoo> sure sure, but for instance, 9.10 was considered more grief than benefit
[07:52] <gogeta> mkelkar: oh the nivida fan is running
[07:52] <Frogzoo> er 8.10 heh
[07:52] <gogeta> mkelkar: maybe you can apply the same fix
[07:52] <leave> 9.04 works fine
[07:52] <mkelkar> gogeta -- tried that
[07:52] <mkelkar> doesn't work
[07:52] <Shazburg> Frogzoo: I haven't had any problems with 9.04, buy ymmv.
[07:52] <Frogzoo> nice nice, thanks guys
[07:53] <Guest63336> yo yo
[07:53] <leave> yeye
[07:53] <gogeta> mkelkar: there is a fan controle deamon for dells the name slips me
[07:53] <mazda01> is anyone aware how get amarok 2.1.1 in jaunty to use mysql? there's no setting within the gui settings?
[07:54] <gogeta> mkelkar: i8kfanGUI
[07:54] <gogeta> mkelkar: worked on my c610 befor ubuntu auto handeled it
[07:55] <mkelkar> gogeta -- how to use it
[07:55] <Spad-XIII> argh, i reboot from live to installed and now wired network works ..
[07:55] <gogeta> mkelkar: its a gui so
[07:55] <gogeta> mkelkar: you can set the fan speeds etc
[07:55] <mkelkar> gogeta -- let me try..
[07:56] <gogeta> mkelkar: look synaptic for that
[07:56] <mkelkar> ok
[07:56] <gogeta> i8kfan
[07:56] <gogeta> should find a gui as well
[07:57] <Anirban1987> How to view the processes like LAMP are running on ubuntu or not from shell ?
[07:58] <Frogzoo> Anirban1987: htop I guess
[07:58] <nevyn> Anirban1987: umm.. can you explain what you're trying to work out?
[07:58] <Frogzoo> Anirban1987: also, /etc/init.d/### status
[07:58] <gogeta> mkelkar: its i8kutils now
[07:59] <gogeta> mkelkar: dont love how they always rename stuff
[07:59] <mkelkar> gogeta -- yeah, that's true
[07:59] <[R]> Anirban1987: "lamp" isn't a process
[07:59] <gogeta> mkelkar: i auume the one marked gk is a gui
[07:59] <gogeta> just search for i8k
[08:00] <hhhhhhhhh> low
[08:00] <zetheroo> sharing printers over a samba network is really glitchy
[08:00] <leave> high
[08:01] <Anirban1987>  How to view the processes like LAMP are running on ubuntu or not from shell ?
[08:01] <leave> ps -aux
[08:01] <lasehopesinyouu> haha ubuntu makes me :)
[08:01] <[R]> Anirban1987: like i already told you...
[08:01] <jared__> hello guys... how can i make Sugar work on Jaunty ?
[08:01] <[R]> [11:59:14] [R] Anirban1987: "lamp" isn't a process
[08:01] <gogeta> mkelkar: i see i8kutils and gkrealm-i8k as i said  gk must be the gui
[08:01] <lasehopesinyouu> first 6 hours and im enjoying it
[08:01] <jorge_> how get automatix
[08:01] <lasehopesinyouu> wish it played my games better though
[08:01] <zetheroo> is there a more fool-proof method for printing remotely?
[08:01] <gogeta> mkelkar: defetly does what you whant to do tho
[08:02] <nevyn> zetheroo: cups
[08:02] <Anirban1987> [r] : Ok , I want to mean whether bind, FTP , HTTP, mail server are working or not.
[08:02] <zetheroo> nevyn: is that printing through a browser?
[08:02] <mkelkar> gogeta -- I see only i8kutils
[08:02] <nevyn> Anirban1987: ps aux|grep 'linux|httpd|mysql|php'
[08:02] <lasehopesinyouu> why dont my widgets stay though
[08:02] <gogeta> mkelkar: only search for i8k
[08:03] <nevyn> Anirban1987: but I'm pretty sure that's not actually going to solve whatever problem you have.
[08:03] <gogeta> mkelkar: in quick search
[08:03] <Conner> I have a question
[08:03] <mazda01> is anyone aware how get amarok 2.1.1 in jaunty to use mysql? there's no setting within the gui settings?
[08:03] <Conner> about ubuntu
[08:03] <[R]> Anirban1987: so try to use them
[08:03] <mkelkar> gogeta -- found it
[08:03] <Shazburg> Conner: Ask.
[08:03] <mazda01> i have added a line in the amarokrc but it's still not using mysql
[08:03] <[R]> Conner: thats kinda the topic of this channel...
[08:03] <Conner> alright
[08:04] <Conner> Are any NVIDIA drivers unsupported for ubuntu?
[08:04] <Shazburg> Conner: Yes. There are open source ones, as well as the official drivers from Nvidia.
[08:04] <gogeta> mkelkar: heh in old ubuntu my c610 fan would just never turn on so i used i8k and a script to keep restting it a bios bug
[08:05] <gogeta> mkelkar: now it works fine
[08:05] <mkelkar> gogeta -- let me give it a shot
[08:05] <mkelkar> will update you
[08:05] <Shazburg> Conner: If you are using Gnome, you can go to "System > Administration > Hardware Drivers" and it should automagically detect you have an NVidia card and offer you the official drivers to install.
[08:06] <Conner> OK, Well I have a NVIDIA GeForce 8200m graphics card. Everytime i install ubuntu and try to install it, ubuntu gives an error.
[08:06] <gogeta> mkelkar: with any luck it supports your model :)
[08:06] <Shazburg> Paste the error into paste.ubuntu.com and link it here.
[08:07] <mkelkar> gogeta -- how to invoke it
[08:07] <gogeta> mkelkar: no gui?
[08:07] <Conner> I would do that, but i am not in ubuntu, and i reformated my drive.
[08:07] <mkelkar> nope
[08:07] <Spad-XIII> lsh is not installed?? .. pff, that command should be lshw .. i've been reading too many pages the past week.. heh
[08:07] <Shazburg> Conner: That'll make this a little harder to solve then, I suppose.
[08:07] <mkelkar> gogeta -- found it
[08:08] <Shazburg> Conner: What do you remember about the error?
[08:08] <gogeta> mkelkar: lol
[08:08] <gogeta> mkelkar: was abought to say cheeck system
[08:08] <leave> sounds good
[08:08] <mkelkar> gogeta -- found under application system tools
[08:09] <Conner> Well, all i get is a box and a red circle and a white line thru it (error icon) No text
[08:09] <Shazburg> Conner: Hrmmm... don't know that one off the top of my head.
[08:09] <chans> hey can someone check to see if i set up my site correctly? http://KnowingTheUnknown.us.to:8080/Wonderland/
[08:09] <leave> 能让你心疼的姑娘
[08:09] <gogeta> !jp
[08:10] <leave> 你们能看见我写的没有
[08:10] <leave> No chinese
[08:10] <quibbler> !cn
[08:10] <gogeta> !cn
[08:10] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: when i try your iwconfig-command, it gives me an error: Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) : invalid argument "mykey". (with mykey replaced with the actual key..)
[08:10] <jorge_> algien habla español
[08:10] <Conner> After these problems I tried to use the terminal instal with the driver download from the NVIDIA site. That does not  work either
[08:10] <leave> ....
[08:10] <zsolty_> hi, please advise me! when I'm trying to watch in fullscreen a movie from youtube my gnome is restarting. From where I can trace this issue? In witch log file?
[08:10] <chans> nvm, someone else verified that it works
[08:10] <leave> here is fine
[08:11] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: sudo iwconfig wlan0 would be your real card adress
[08:11] <leave> I like this place
[08:11] <gogeta> hight be ath0
[08:11] <gogeta> might
[08:11] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: it's wlan0 indeed
[08:11] <Shazburg> Conner: Did you see any errors from X in your logs?
[08:11] <gogeta> just typing iwconfig will tell you
[08:11] <gogeta> ok
[08:11] <gogeta> you using wep or wpa
[08:11] <Spad-XIII> the essid is set indeed
[08:11] <Spad-XIII> wpa
[08:11] <gogeta> ok
[08:11] <Conner> it says i do not have permissions, but i was running it in root
[08:12] <leave> Just for test how many know that
[08:12] <Spad-XIII> wpa/wpa2 is set in the router with wpa-personal
[08:12] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: sudo iwconfig wlan0 enc "yourhey"
[08:12] <gogeta> your key
[08:12] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: is that with or without " ?
[08:12] <leave> gogeta, what key?
[08:12] <gogeta> with
[08:12] <gogeta> "
[08:12] <Spad-XIII> same error
[08:13] <Shazburg> Conner: I'm sorry, but it's just not enough to work off. If you decide to try again, I'm sure someone could help you while you have the system running.
[08:13] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: sounds like the driver does not support keys
[08:13] <gogeta> try without "
[08:13] <empiric> guys i want to install ubuntu from USB on my laptop i have ISO with me
[08:13] <gogeta> sometimes that works
[08:13] <empiric> any idea?
[08:13] <Conner> Thank you Shazburg.
[08:14] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: still same error ..
[08:14] <Shazburg> Conner: You're welcome. I'm sorry I couldn't offer you a solution.
[08:14] <Conner> Just one mor thing to add. I have tried other distros to see compatability, and none have been compatable with my Graphics card.
[08:14] <rww> !usb | empiric
[08:15] <mkelkar> gogeta -- what were your settings for temp
[08:15] <Shazburg> Conner: Have you checked with the NVidia site to see if your card is supported by the drivers?
[08:15] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: it's using ath9k as the driver (running from live-usb now).. card is: Atheros AR928X
[08:15] <rww> empiric: personally, I've used and would recommend unetbootin, which is detailed in the second section of "Automatic Approaches"
[08:16] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: the funny thing is, it worked right off the bat (first boot/time only) with a different router (which was also setup in wpa-personal with wpa/wpa2 mode)
[08:16] <Conner> Yes, i put im my card information and os information (used linux 32bit, because i would use ubuntu x86) and it gave me a driver to download
[08:16] <DVA5912> http://pasteme.pastebin.com/m388486c4 im getting this error. what package do i need to install
[08:17] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: from what i read iwconfig can not handel wpa2
[08:17] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: it should handel wpa though?
[08:18] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: well if its getting the essid your gui should work
[08:18] <Shazburg> Conner: I'm just stabbing in the dark, but it sounds like either a bad card or an issue with the drivers.
[08:18] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: because my router uses the highest-available encryption .. so if wpa2 doesn't work, it falls back to wpa .. i've tried setting it to wpa-only, but that didn't help
[08:18] <zsolty_> hi, please advise me! when I'm trying to watch in fullscreen a movie from youtube my gnome is restarting. From where I can trace this issue? In witch log file?
[08:18] <Ali_nz> hoe do i search for a file with wild cards?
[08:19] <[R]> Ali_nz: with the find command
[08:19] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: are you using a word phrase or numbers
[08:19] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: word with numbers and small and capitals
[08:19] <Anirban> When I am trying to install ufw by "sudo apt-get install ufw" having following error : http://pastebin.ca/1494428
[08:19] <Spad-XIII> no fancy characters
[08:19] <Conner> I personally believe it is a bad card. I have wanted to install osx-86 and found out that my card was unsupported. Because this is mac i figured if it wont work for that then its probably not going to work for linux.
[08:20] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: ok sudo iwconfig wlan0 key s:yourkey
[08:20] <Ali_nz> thnks
[08:20] <progre55> hi people! yesterday, while playing CS on a laptop connected to an external screen, the system crashed, and now when I boot, it says that "ubuntu is runnin on low graphics mode". When I remove xorg.conf, it boots okay, but I dont have those "acceleration metod   uxa", etc.. any suggestions what might be causing this, please?
[08:20] <gogeta> thats for asciikey
[08:21] <progre55> I tried to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but doesnt help..
[08:21] <Ali_nz> and what about including the dir location in the results?
[08:21] <gogeta> thats s: with no space
[08:22] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: same error ..
[08:22] <gogeta> so s:mykey
[08:22] <gogeta> wtf
[08:22] <Hilikus> how do i modify a rule in ufw? i have a limit rule but i want to change the threshold
[08:22] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: it worked before?
[08:22] <leonbrussels> Hi. I just got one of the intel atom boards for my mum and just transplanted the HDD from her old computer. However, suspend does not work. The thing turns off, the power led does not blink, when I turn it on the screen doesn't turn on. Hibernate works fine. I am thinking it could be because I fiddled around with the suspend scripts back in the day when I tried fixing suspend on her old machine. Is there any way to "reset" all the sus
[08:22] <leonbrussels> pend scripts?
[08:23] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: it hasn't work at my place .. but i had a working wifi connection with a different router somewhere else
[08:23] <Shazburg> Conner: While OSX uses a totally different graphics solution (Quartz), I would say that if you think you have a bad video card, then you probably have a bad card. You might be able to get X going with a generic display driver.
[08:23] <[R]> leonbrussels: well first you would need to know what you 'fiddled' with
[08:23] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: probly wasent encrypted if i rember the ath5k driver does not support keys
[08:23] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: i used networkmanager to set the key in both places .. i tried wicd (or wcid?) as well, didn't work
[08:24] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: yea but wpa2 has issue with alot of drivers
[08:24] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: i'm using the ath9k driver .. and the other working network was definately encrypted (i set it up as well.. different router)
[08:24] <gogeta> they where probly wep
[08:24] <leonbrussels> [R]: I have no idea, it was about a year ago, I just forgot :(
[08:24] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: have you tryd nidswrapper or the madwifi set
[08:24] <Conner> Thank you Shazburg for your support. Ubuntu has not failed me yet, as i will install it on an older build as soon as i get a new HDD. Thank you again Shazburg
[08:24] <[R]> leonbrussels: easiest thing would be to reinstall... seeing as if its over a year ago its pretty old and crusty anyway
[08:25] <leave> leonbrussels, Nandflash
[08:25] <[R]> leonbrussels: the newer versions work much better with susepdn anyway
[08:25] <Shazburg> Conner: You bet.
[08:25] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: i haven't tried ndiswrapper no, the madwifi i checked out a bit, but couldn't find any instruction-sites newer than 2006 .. :\
[08:25] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: so its sees the network but will not accept the key correct
[08:25] <Hilikus> where does ufw store its rules
[08:25] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: yea, it finds networks just fine .. it just won't accept the key here
[08:25] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: in ubuntu hardware it should ask if you whant to use them
[08:26] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: System -> Admin -> hardware drivers ?
[08:26] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: yes
[08:26] <Anirban>  When I am trying to install ufw by "sudo apt-get install ufw" having following error : http://pastebin.ca/1494428
[08:26] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: that only lists the nvidia drivers
[08:26] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: or chnage your key to all numbers that seems to work even in wpa
[08:27] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: nice, i'll try that one
[08:28] <crazy6> what is starting wpa_supplicant in the background? something related to dbus? I am trying to manually configure my wireless since KNetworkManager is hopelessly broken
[08:28] <leonbrussels> [R]: I am on jaunty. Is there really no way to reinstall the powermanagement? Everything else i working a charm so I don't really want to reinstall...
[08:28] <Spad-XIII> brb
[08:28] <[R]> leonbrussels: how could it have been a year ago then?
[08:28] <[R]> leonbrussels: well there is no package called 'powermanagement'
[08:28] <[R]> leonbrussels: so unless you know what you screwed around with
[08:29] <Kartagis> is it possible with rar to create volumes to fit on a dvd? what should the -v parameter be?
[08:29] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: the driver might not support acssi sttyle
[08:29] <Shazburg> leonbrussels: For the future, you may want to get familiar with etckeeper.
[08:29] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: i just changed the key .. will check if it connects using networkmanager
[08:29] <leonbrussels> [R]: Well I updated to jaunty using the update function... and I think the package is pm-utils but if I try to remove --purge it it wants to remove all of my video drivers :(
[08:30] <ysis> Hi, how can I manually enforce a readout of ~/.profile (so I won't have to restart or anything)?
[08:30] <[R]> ysis: use the source command
[08:30] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: you might have to delete the old auto connect to get it to as for a new key
[08:30] <Shazburg> ysis: source ~/.profile
[08:30] <leonbrussels> Shazburg: Good point, would save me a lot of troubles I have had in the past :)
[08:30] <gogeta> ask
[08:31] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: i'm still in the live-usb .. i didn't try making a connection just yet ..
[08:31] <Tommy26_> PENIS
[08:31] <Tommy26_> PENIS
[08:31] <Tommy26_> PENIS
[08:31] <FloodBot2> Tommy26_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:31] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: it just locked up again :(
[08:31] <Shazburg> ysis: But don't make a habit of using it too many times or you'll end up with a $PATH the length of the Amazon.
[08:31] <iamslango> so, I accidentally deleted my /etc/apache2 directory
[08:32] <iamslango> which is no big deal
[08:32] <Shazburg> iamslango: For you, maybe.
[08:32] <iamslango> I reinstalled apache2-common
[08:32] <iamslango> got almost everything back
[08:32] <grawity> Shazburg: Not if your .profile rebuilds the $PATH from scratch.
[08:32] <shaullx> i deleted the installed apps shortcut from wine menu how can i get it back?
[08:32] <iamslango> but /etc/apache2/ENVVARS is not coming back...
[08:33] <ysis> Shazburg, thanks! I vaguely remembered something like this but wasn't quite sure...
[08:33] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: it seems like it just doesn't want to connect at all
[08:34] <echosystm> is it just me or does ubuntu boot incredibly slow in comparison to xp?
[08:34] <Shazburg> grawity: True. But that's not the default, and I'm just making sure ysis is aware of the possibility.
[08:34] <echosystm> in general everything seems slower :/
[08:34] <Reid> do you have to use 64 bit ubuntu if ur processor is such?
[08:34] <echosystm> no Reid
[08:34] <Reid> ty
[08:34] <grawity> Reid: 64-bit processors work just fine with 32-bit OSes.
[08:34] <grawity> (I apparently have a 64-bit CPU and didn't know that until yesterday.)
[08:34] <Spad-XIII> echosystm: ubuntu feels alot faster here..
[08:35] <shaullx> anyone?
[08:36] <Shazburg> shaullx: you can find it in "~/.config/menus/applications.menu". You'll see a </deleted> line in the menu entry. Remove that line.
[08:36] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: sorry lost my own connection
[08:36] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: did that work for you
[08:37] <eruiwovmc> how does james bond go about without being assassinated while always using the alias "james bond"?
[08:37] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: nop, it locked up in both live-usb and installed .. :\
[08:37] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: hummm
[08:37] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: it seems as though it likes the numbers better as it locks up faster :P
[08:37] <itai_michaelson> hi, do you people know how to rip a CD to flac ?
[08:37] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: lets try sudo iwconfig wlan0 key :1234567890"
[08:38] <gogeta1> oops
[08:38] <Shazburg> shaullx: Sorry, you need to remove the <Deleted/> line. Got that a little backwords.
 try Sound Juicer
[08:38] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: i'll try, rebooting first as it's locked up
[08:38] <Shazburg> s/backwords/backwards/
[08:38] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: sudo iwconfig wlan0 key "1234567890"
[08:38] <shaullx> i removed that line still nothing
[08:38] <gogeta1> see if it taakes any key
[08:38] <Shazburg> shaullx: From the <Name>wine-wine</Name> entry?
[08:39] <shaullx> yes
[08:39] <leave> "1234567890" it's easy to try
[08:39] <``y7> where do i find my computer name at in ubuntu?
[08:39] <shaullx> its the only delete there anyway
[08:39] <itai_michaelson> Furlong, thanks, I should have looked there first...
[08:40] <shaullx> Shazburg should i restart gdm?
[08:40] <shaullx> :O
[08:40] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: you might only support short keys if it did not error
[08:40] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: it didn't give an error
[08:40] <Shazburg> I don't think so. I just did the samething not more than a few days ago. Let me check something.
[08:40] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: ok you need to use a short key
[08:41] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: it doesn't have the essid though ..
[08:41] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: i didnt set one
[08:41] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "whatever"
[08:41] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: i just did .. no errors but also no connection
[08:41] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: that was just a test
[08:42] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: you need to make a short 10 digit key
[08:42] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: what do you mean with "short keys" ?
[08:42] <Shazburg> shaullx: You can try restarting gnome, but that shouldn't work. Here's a thread to the Ubuntu forums for this issue, by the way: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=477108
[08:42] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: on your roughter
[08:42] <Spad-XIII> i used a 8 digit key and previously had 8 characters as a key
[08:42] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: your driver does not support long keys
[08:43] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: ok then lets do this
[08:43] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "yourssid" key "yourkey"
[08:43] <shaullx> i dont have <delete/> i had </delete> and i removed it
[08:44] <``y7> where do i find my computer name at in ubuntu?
[08:44] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: no errors
[08:44] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: ok sudo dhclient wlan0
[08:44] <gogeta1> see if it keys a ip
[08:44] <gogeta1> gets
[08:44] <Shazburg> shaullx: Then you should have your Wine menu back. I'm sorry, but that's the solution for deleting a menu item you need back.
[08:44] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: it's dhcpdiscovering..
[08:45] <Shazburg> shaullx: Or rather, getting back an item you deleted.
[08:45] <DVA5912> What is there for ubuntu that is similar to Game Maker on windows or the Visual studio tools on windows
[08:45] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: did it give out a ip
[08:45] <Reid> how can install a package if i dont have an internet connection?
[08:46] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: oh just timing out
[08:46] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: no dhcpoffers received
[08:46] <DVA5912> Im wanting to create a traffic light simulator. I get ideas and i have to build some kind of code to implement them
[08:46] <Shazburg> Reid: What package?
[08:46] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: ok iwconfig wlan0 enc "yourkey"
[08:46] <Reid> subversion
[08:46] <Reid> couldn't find it
[08:47] <Shazburg> Reid: If it's on the install CD, you should be able to add the CD back as a source (if it isn't alread) and install if from apt-get.
[08:47] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: and again the dhclient ?
[08:47] <gogeta1> yes
[08:47] <Shazburg> Reid: Which subversion is not on the CD.
[08:48] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: we got issue 1 salved lol at least we knoe it didnt like the word key
[08:48] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: again nothing..
[08:48] <DVA5912> Okay, tell me this. How similar is Qt too Visual Studio C++ 08
[08:48] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: i would try with wicd now being it does support wpa
[08:48] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: 1 step further than i got myself :)
[08:48] <Reid> i try sudo apt-cdrom add, then do i need to try apt-get install subversion? or do i need to update apt?
[08:48] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: it should accept it
[08:49] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: i'll install wicd then
[08:49] <Shazburg> Reid: Umm... I take it you have a machine you could use to download the file, then transfer it over to the host in question via a flash drive or some network protocol?
[08:49] <Reid> yes
[08:49] <DVA5912> :( no one likes me even at 3:50 in the morning :(
[08:49] <eruiwovmc> is samba the best method for networking windows with ubuntu?
[08:49] <grawity> eruiwovmc: if you mean file sharing, then yes.
[08:49] <Keranu> Well my boot problems seem to be getting weirder, but I think I have a better idea of what's going wrong now
[08:50] <eruiwovmc> okay
[08:50] <eruiwovmc> thanks
[08:50] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: doh .. typing inthe whole apt-get install command .. only to find out, wired network is offline as well.. argh
[08:50] <Shazburg> Okay. Well, this could be fun.
[08:50] <Keranu> In the Ubuntu installation, I tried installing Grub to a 2gb SD card
[08:50] <Keranu> When I tried booting Grub from that, it said "GRUB Hard Disk Error"
[08:50] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: the ubuntu one should work to just go in network settings and delete the auto connect
[08:50] <Shazburg> Reid: Here is the subversion package for Jaunty: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/subversion
[08:50] <Reid> ty
[08:50] <Keranu> After booting the Ubuntu Live CD, I checked the SD card and no files were on it
[08:50] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: so it loses the old locking up key
[08:51] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: then try reconnecting
[08:51] <Keranu> Is there a way I Can install Grub without the Ubuntu installer? It seems Ubuntu installed on the partition I wanted and everything, I just can't boot it
[08:51] <[R]> Keranu: what exactly do you mean you installed it to the sd card?
[08:51] <balachmar> Hi, how can I use an openPGP key that I have published through the ubuntu servers on another computer to sign email in thunderbird?
[08:51] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: it wil restore auto connect once you connect no worrys
[08:52] <Shazburg> Reid: To bring the package down, you'll need to satisfy all those dependencies. I'd recommend installing as many as possible off the cd, then downloading the rest. You'll have to match any dependencies for those dependencies yourself. Since you don't have an internet connection on the host you want to install on, you get to do apt's job.
[08:52] <Keranu> At the end of the Ubuntu installation when it asks where you want to install Grub, I chose the path to my SD card. (The reason I did this was to try something posted on the forums to help my problem)
[08:52] <Shazburg> Reid: Unless... is this host connected to a local network, but is not allowed to access the internet?
[08:52] <[R]> Keranu: but you installed ubuntu to your hard drive?
[08:52] <Keranu> Yes
[08:52] <Reid> fresh install, trying to get wireless working
[08:53] <Shazburg> Reid: No ethernet available?
[08:53] <Reid> its available
[08:53] <[R]> Keranu: yeah... of course there are gonna be no files onthe card
[08:53] <[R]> Keranu: selecting the device to "instal lgrub" to just puts it in the mbr
[08:53] <[R]> Keranu: doesnt copy any files
[08:53] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: it's trying..
[08:54] <Keranu> [R]: I was trying to follow these instructions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56723
[08:54] <[R]> Keranu: sounds like someone on the forums doesnt know whaat they are talking about (shocker there)
[08:54] <billy> hi i deleted a package and its not removed from the menu. how do i remove it from there also?
[08:54] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: lol it didnt lockup this time
[08:54] <[R]> billy": right click and hit edit menu
[08:54] <Shazburg> Reid: Really, you're in for a world of hurt trying to match the dependencies yourself. I'd recommend you get that host connected in some way and let apt do the work for you.
[08:54] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: nope, but failed anyway :)
[08:54] <Reid> lol okay
[08:54] <rohan> i want to install 64bit version of ubuntu. what is the best way to go for flash and java plugin?
[08:54] <Reid> tx for the heads up
[08:55] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: only the wireless locks up .. wired should work
[08:55] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: try sudo dhclient -r wlan0 and try again
[08:55] <Shazburg> Reid: You're welcome. I found myself doing just this on a laptop with a dead nic last year. It was a lot of time and not a lot to show for it.
[08:56] <billy> [R] i dont see that
[08:56] <[R]> billy: what do you see?
[08:56] <billy> panel settings
[08:56] <wizzer> just had me a double decker pb&j
[08:56] <lvlefisto> i was trying to make skype work using pasuspender, then i killed pulseaudio and now i have no sound even after restarting
[08:57] <neo_> will my python2.5 and related installs break if I upgrade to Jaunty?
[08:57] <[R]> billy: you need to right click on the menu
[08:57] <wizzer> wrong room
[08:58] <Keranu> [R]: Did you see this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56723
[08:58] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: nothing
[08:58] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: dam netbook
[08:58] <gogeta> p;
[08:59] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: any luck
[08:59] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: you you got my dhclient -r command
[08:59] <[R]> Keranu: nope... i generally don't like to read forum posts by people who have no clue what they are doing
[09:00] <KC|work> then i advise you ignore every forum on the interne
[09:00] <KC|work> t
[09:00] <[R]> KC|work: i generally do
[09:00] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: yea.. didn't work :\
[09:00] <KC|work> ;)
[09:00] <Keranu> It mentioned installing Grub to a floppy (USB in my case) and copying some file from it to your Ubuntu system and then copying that file to your Windows drive and editing the boot.ini to include it
[09:00] <[R]> KC|work: although when i'm in the mood for a good laugh...
[09:00] <Keranu> bootsect.lnx was the file
[09:00] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: humm one issue down not to get it to accept wpa
[09:01] <[R]> Keranu: seems severly crack induced
[09:01] <gogeta> now
[09:01] <Keranu> Maybe you can give me further ideas regarding my installation problems
[09:02] <Keranu> I'm able to partition and install Ubuntu itself fine it seems, but I have problems with dual booting between XP and ubuntu. One of three things happen:
[09:02] <Keranu> 1. ) System boots straight into XP
[09:02] <[R]> sounds like your not setting up grub right
[09:02] <gokhan> that why you install xp after ubuntu
[09:02] <Keranu> 2. ) Systems boots GRUB and lists XP, but when trying to boot XP it says something like "Selected Disk Not Available" (Error 21)
[09:03] <Keranu> Or 3. ) When my BIOS boots, it says "GRUB Hard Disk Error"
[09:03] <Keranu> I've tried installing XP after Ubuntu too
[09:03] <[R]> installing xp after ubuntu is only going to wipe grub
[09:03] <Keranu> As my computer is now, I'm stuck with problem 1.)
[09:03] <Keranu> But I can see my installed Ubuntu partition and files
[09:03] <[R]> saying it says "something like" tells us nothing
[09:04] <gokhan> yes know you need to set grub
[09:04] <Keranu> The error was spefifically error 21
[09:04] <Keranu> Let me look it up
[09:04] <gokhan> boot your pc from livecd
[09:04] <Keranu> That's what I'm in now
[09:04] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: blarg now my wireless die
[09:04] <gogeta1> lol
[09:05] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: lol .. both wired and wireless aren't working here .. :\
[09:05] <gokhan> then recover your grub menu
[09:05] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: why not wired
[09:05] <Keranu> How can I recover it?
[09:05] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: maybe you got your roughter blocking it
[09:05] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: i would die of laughter if thats the case
[09:05] <error404notfound> how can i install sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-jdk on hardy heron? i have tried apt-cache search jdk and only openjdk came in the list, no packages with sun_ or java6
[09:06] <gokhan> read that http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3203908&postcount=4
[09:06] <Keranu> Thanks
[09:06] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: for wired not to work it sounds like it
[09:07] <gokhan> no problem
[09:07] <Shazburg> error404notfound: Here's the java packages for hardy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=hardy&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=java
[09:07] <error404notfound> Shazburg, http://pastebin.com/m14c3b758 is my repo list
[09:08] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: its very late so i have to sleep good luck it sounds like the orughter is rejecting the connection thow for wired to fail
[09:09] <Shazburg> error404notfound: You want java6 runtime, right?
[09:10] <error404notfound> Shazburg, its bin and demo actually
[09:10] <Phonon> I've installed the latest version of VirtualBox from the vbox official repo. USB is not accessible in the guest OS. What's wrong?
[09:10] <[R]> Phonon: you selected it in the settings?
[09:11] <Shazburg> error404notfound: Well, I don't know about the demo, but I think you want this package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/ia32-sun-java6-bin
[09:11] <Shazburg> error404notfound: It's in multiverse, so you just need to add that to your sources.
[09:11] <Spad-XIII> wired connection worked fine earlier today and yesterday the whole day .. the router is not blocking it :\
[09:12] <Shazburg> Phonon: You installed from vbox's repo, and not Ubuntu?
[09:12] <Phonon> [R]: Yes, in the settings of a vm, I added a corresponding filter.
[09:12] <[R]> Phonon: sounds like you need help with virtualbox... not ubuntu
[09:12] <topher_> Anyone know how to install WoW with Wine?
[09:12] <Phonon> Shazburg: Yes, not from the Ubuntu repo. Since the open source edition does not support USB, isn't it?
[09:13] <Phonon> [R]: Well, thanks.
[09:13] <topher_> Anyone know how to install World of Warcraft with Wine..?
[09:13] <Shazburg> Phonon: Not sure about that as I haven't tried USB with VirtualBox, but if you installed from their repo, you'll definately want to work with them on the issue.
[09:13] <[R]> topher_: yes... we all heard you the first time
[09:13] <Shazburg> topher_: Download the installer and run it. Works fine for me.
[09:13] <Phonon> Shazburg: Yeah, thanks
[09:14] <Shazburg> Phonon: Sorry.
[09:15] <thomson> dual booting windows xp and linux...... is there a web site that explains how to determine swap file size etc?
[09:15] <delicowa> what stage of development is kermic koala
[09:15] <Shazburg> topher_: Yes, go to your account page and download the windows installer. I ran it through wine and installed the game just like in Windows.
[09:15] <[R]> delicowa: there is a wonderfu shedule on the ubuntu website
[09:17] <topher_> How do you run it with Wine?
[09:17] <DrMrHorse> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
[09:17] <billy> whats the best ubuntu/debain desktop screen recorder?
[09:17] <Shazburg> topher_: Once you have Wine installed, it will take ownership of Windows executables. You just run the program like you would on Windows.
[09:18] <billy> i tried recordmydesktop to no success
[09:18] <Samich> Hello, I am having problems with youtube/flash audio. I am currently running 8.04. I don't have speakers as I use a USB Headset and it seems to work so far, I can hear Pidgin's noises. Any insight?
[09:18] <delicowa> I don't know but I use RecordMyDesktop
[09:18] <billy> it wouldnt record or something lol
[09:18] <delicowa> you can use recordMyDesktop to record dektop videos
[09:18] <billy> i want to make a review of the os im in
[09:18] <delicowa> check www.getdeb.net
[09:19] <billy> ill try and use it again hold on
[09:19] <ojdanke> hi all
[09:19] <ojdanke> is this a better chat system than yahoo chat?
[09:19] <topher_> Is their a way someone can use a Remote Desktop viewer to help me?
[09:19] <grawity> ojdanke: IRC is better than all (well, most) chat systems.
[09:19] <topher_> I'm a noob to Ubuntu.
[09:19] <billy> ojdanke u in pidgin?
[09:20] <ojdanke> i guess there are a lot of bots in yahoo chat....
[09:20] <ojdanke> i could.....
[09:20] <delicowa> after you click on record it hids the window in the system tray where the notification area is
[09:20] <svqyqb> http://tinyurl.com/nkypfa
[09:20] <svqyqb> hallo
[09:20] <ojdanke> do you want me to?
[09:20] <ojdanke> billy:Do you want me to?
[09:21] <billy> no just asking didn't really know what you were talking about
[09:21] <ojdanke> okay...
[09:22] <billy> delicowa
[09:22] <billy> i tried sudo apt-get install recordmydesktop
[09:22] <billy> and it worked but i dont see it in my menu :(
[09:22] <ojdanke> so just asking.... is this a place where people just come to chat?(I'm new to this place)
[09:22] <ojdanke> or does it have some specific purpose
[09:22] <grawity> ojdanke: This channel (#ubuntu) is mostly the support channel for Ubuntu Linux.
[09:23] <billy> yeah what grawity said
[09:23] <grawity> ojdanke: But there are many other channels in this network, and there are many other IRC networks.
[09:23] <ojdanke> great..... That means it is a lot of help.....
[09:23] <ojdanke> how do i change a channel?
[09:23] <topher_> When I enter
[09:23] <topher_> wine InstallWoW.exe
[09:23] <grawity> ojdanke: First, find out the channel name. Then type /join #channelname
[09:24] <grawity> ojdanke: You can be in multiple channels at once.
[09:24] <Shazburg> topher_: Your question isn't really related to Ubuntu. Here's a writeup on installing WoW with Wine of wowwiki: http://www.wowwiki.com/Wine
[09:24] <topher_> It doesn't install it.
[09:24] <ojdanke> how do i find out the channel name?  :)
[09:24] <grawity> Good question
[09:24] <billy> what are you looking for lol
[09:24] <thomson> is it best to make individual partitions for each directory? e.g. /usr, /home etc.
[09:25] <ojdanke> i think i got that....
[09:25] <billy> freenode has alot of channels
[09:25] <Samic1> I am having a problem with getting flash sound to work, I am running 8.04 and have a USB headset, I went though the sound editor and got it to allow me to hear pidgin's noises but nothing from youtube/firefox.
[09:25] <ojdanke> i'm looking for a normal chat to find new friends(girls)
[09:25] <topher_> Still doesn't work. =/
[09:25] <Shazburg> topher_: You may also find Cedega or CrossOver Games to be useful.
[09:25] <surfing> Why the menu lost the setting ,place icon?
[09:25] <topher_> Do those cost money, Shaz?
[09:26] <grawity> ojdanke: On Freenode, the "generic" chat channel is #defocus. (Usually one would use /list to see all channels in the network - but since this network is so big, that command could easily flood you off IRC for a while, so I really would not recommend using it.)
[09:26] <billy> ojdanke go out in public and do that or get on myspace and add random people ha
[09:26] <grawity> ojdanke: Try /msg alis help
[09:26] <pixlbox> sorry to talk off topic but does anyone have a domain name with net benifit ?
[09:26] <Shazburg> thomson: It really depends, but in general the answer is no.
[09:26] <pixlbox> benefit *
[09:26] <Shazburg> topher_: Yes.
[09:26] <billy> anyway brb
[09:26] <grawity> ojdanke: There are also websites such as http://irc.netsplit.de/ and http://searchirc.com/ that can search all channels in all networks.
[09:27] <surfing> Did someone see it?
[09:27] <ojdanke> thanks... you all are a lot of help...
[09:27] <ojdanke> (I liked that- go out and chat to ppl advice best)
[09:27] <topher_> Is there a Wine IRC channel I could join?
[09:28] <moncky> topher_: #winehq
[09:28] <neo_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1212784
[09:28] <Frogzoo> thomson: these days, you only really need/want /home on a separate partition
[09:28] <neo_> i m not getting views or answers on this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1212784
[09:28] <Shazburg> thomson: Partitioning this way made more sense when you ran the risk of /var overtaking your 700MB hard disk. Unless you have a very small hard disk (under 20 gigs) or you're spreading partitions across multiple hard disks, go with the "/" and "swap" partitioning and move on.
[09:29] <Frogzoo> ubuntu's installer should partition /home separately...
[09:29] <Shazburg> neo_: I'm not looking at it.
[09:29] <epic> how tdo i upgrade to firefox 3.5? (im on 9.04)
[09:29] <epic> *do
[09:29] <neo_> Shazburg: ????
[09:30] <billy> who was the guy whos name started with a d that told me he used recordmydesktop
[09:30] <Shazburg> epic: apt-get install firefox-3.5
[09:30] <Shazburg> neo_: It's a joke.
[09:30] <delicowa> @bily I hope I'm not in trouble
[09:30] <Shazburg> neo_: My response, that is.
[09:30] <neo_> Shazburg: thaught so
[09:30] <delicowa> @billy I hope I'm not in trouble
[09:31] <billy> lol
[09:31] <billy> what version do you use?
[09:31] <billy> whats the difference between recordmydesktop and gtk-recordmydesktop
[09:32] <Shazburg> epic: You'll find it under Shiretoko once it's installed. This is because the branding for the package hasn't been updated since 3.5 was in development. I'm using 3.5 and everything is A-OK.
[09:32] <leaf-sheep> billy: One does not use GTK.
[09:32] <delicowa> gtk-recordMyDesktop is the frontend for recordMyDesktop
[09:32] <billy> idk what gtk is
[09:32] <billy> do i need both?
[09:32] <delicowa> yes you need booth
[09:33] <delicowa> recordMyDesktop is a commandline utility
[09:33] <leaf-sheep> billy: Install gtk version.  It'll pull in other package too.
[09:33] <billy> ahh thats why i only had one
[09:33] <billy> :P
[09:33] <Shazburg> neo_: Why do you want to upgrade to Jaunty?
[09:33] <delicowa> gtk-recordMyDekstop is a graphical interface (gtk is a graphical interface engine for the gnome environment)
[09:33] <billy> now i see it in the menu :D
[09:34] <delicowa> good just install it and you'll LOOOOOOOOVE recordMyDekstop
[09:34] <billy> ok i opened it now what?
[09:34] <billy> hit record but how do i stop it and save it
[09:35] <neo_> Shazbug: Gnome (probably compiz) seems to have prob with my video driver: intel 80845. I can not enable advanced visual effects. Had to uninstall compiz
[09:35] <neo_> plus i would like to work with python2.6 for my other projects
[09:36] <neo_> jaunty might have solved problems
[09:36] <neo_> plus improved stability
[09:36] <billy> delicowa dont leave me hanging :)
[09:37] <Shazburg> neo_: I see. That's quite the setup you have there. You install everything with apt, or did you use eggs for Django and the like?
[09:39] <billy> k
[09:39] <thecat> hi
[09:40] <gamla_kossan> hey, is feisty eol?
[09:41] <billy> lol failed
[09:41] <neo_> Shazbug: most of the times it was apt. I have installed some packages with pip. Then some manually.
[09:41] <Shazburg> neo_: My two cents: if you've got real time/money tied up in your setup, I'd weigh that against the pros of upgrading to Jaunty. No one is really going to guarantee your setup won't break, but I have had clean upgrades with Ubuntu when I expected destruction.
[09:42] <minimec> gamla_kossan: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[09:42] <Shazburg> neo_: You might want to take a backup of your system and restore it to a virtual machine like VirtualBox, then test the upgrade there.
[09:42] <neo_> Shazbug: Ha ha. Thanks.
[09:42] <minimec> gamla_kossan: ... no longer supported. It is recommended to upgrade to the current version of Ubuntu.
[09:43] <neo_> Shazbug: VM seems to be an option.
[09:43] <gamla_kossan> minimec: fsck
[09:43] <neo_> but that will take some time.
[09:43] <gamla_kossan> minimec: thanks
[09:43] <minimec> gamla_kossan: np
[09:44] <Shazburg> neo_: And something I wish I was more discplined about is scripting such installations out so I can recreate them as needed.
[09:44] <neo_> Shazbug:I'll probably stick with Intrepid for now
[09:44] <diddy> Has anybody ever install Oracle on Ubuntu?
[09:44] <neo_> Shazbug: you are right. I was too lazy about scripting them.
[09:45] <neo_> Shazbug: anyway, upgrade to Jaunty can wait. I m enjoying Django for now.
[09:45] <neo_> Shazbug: thanks for help.
[09:45] <gamla_kossan> minimec: wait, feisty was never a LTS?
[09:45] <gamla_kossan> minimec: is that correct?
[09:46]  * gamla_kossan facepalms..
[09:46] <Shazburg> neo_: You bet.
[09:46] <thomson> how do i work out how big my swap partition should be?
[09:46] <Slart> thomson: will you be using hibernate?
[09:46] <Shazburg> thomson: You shouldn't need more than a gig.
[09:47] <thomson> Slart: no
[09:47] <Shazburg> thomson: Slart makes a solid point.
[09:47] <minimec> gamla_kossan: Hardy Heron is the last lts. Between Feisty an Hardy, there was even another one... 'Gutsy' ;)
[09:47] <Slart> thomson: how much RAM do you have?
[09:47] <thomson> Slart: 2 GB
[09:47] <Slart> thomson: I would go with 1GB or so.. just to give you some buffer in case something starts eating memory
[09:48] <billy> thanks delicowa
[09:48] <Slart> thomson: if you use hibernation you need at least as much swap as you have RAM.. otherwise hibernation will not work
[09:48] <Slart> !swap
[09:49] <kraut> moin
[09:50] <billy> yea
[09:50] <billy> saves as ogv file though
[09:51] <thomson> thanks
[09:51] <Shazburg> thomson: This your first linux install?
[09:51] <billy> and wont play it justs opens then closes
[09:52] <thomson> Shazburg: yes
[09:53] <abcminiuser_> Hi all, is there a PPA for an updated lm-sensors which supports the Atom?
[09:53] <Shazburg> thomson: Right on. Have fun.
[09:53] <AdvoWork> hi, ive got loads of logs every few seconds saying: "OTP unavailable because can't read/write key database /etc/opiekeys: No such file or directory"  any ideas please?
[09:53] <sirninja> Hey. I had ubuntu installed on my computer, and I reinstalled windows on another partition, so I'm trying to reinstall grub from a live cd, but I get the error "Error 22: No such partition"
[09:54] <topher_> I have my laptop hooked up to my TV via HDMI cable. How can I get the sound to come out on my TV rather then my laptop?
[09:55] <delicowa> notice billy make sure you use totem and that you don't have broken dependencies
[09:56] <thomson> Shazburg: i'll try, lol
[09:56] <minimec> sirninja: So you have one harddisk with different partitions on it?
[09:57] <mzz> mmm, apt-proxy seems a bit stuck: apt-get update is taking *really* long "Waiting for headers" while apt-proxy's log is slowly getting entries added. Did I break it somehow or is this a bug?
[09:57] <Shazburg> topher_: You'll need to run an audio cable.
[09:57] <sirninja> minimec: yes
[09:57] <mzz> topher_: I don't know about hdmi, but with most other formats you have to run audio separately
[09:58] <sirninja> the last thing it says before that error is: "Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+17 p (hd0,6)/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/menu.lst"... failed"
[09:58] <minimec> sirninja: What did find /boot/grub/stage1 return? Something like 'hd.0.1' ?
[09:58] <billy> totem?
[09:59] <mzz> sirninja: did you change your partition layout? "geometry (hd0)" might be interesting.
[09:59] <sirninja> it returned (hd0,6)
[09:59] <sirninja> oh... I'm booting off a usb, that could register as hd0 couldn't it?
[10:00] <minimec> sirninja: ok. No. I don't think so. Your stick shouldn't be recognized as 'hd'
[10:00] <delicowa> well if you use ati try installing all the ati drivers because it is propriery
[10:00] <sirninja> strange. In gparted, It says my main hd. is all unallocated, even though I know that's not the case
[10:01] <topher_> Huh, it works on Vista without the audio cable..
[10:01] <topher_> I thought HDMI had audio in it?
[10:01] <minimec> sirninja: So ... Thenyou do 'root (hd0,6)', and then 'setup (hd0)'. IS that right. Do you get the error after setup (hdo)?
[10:02] <delicowa> */notice billy try this command  make sure mplayer is installed
[10:02] <sirninja> correct. I only get an error after setup (hd0)
[10:03] <DerKlempner> topher: the HDMI interface is audio and video, but Ii've never heard of the audio portion working properly in linux
[10:04] <DerKlempner> topher: what kind of video card do you have?
[10:04] <Shazburg> topher_: http://www.google.com/search?q=hdmi+ubuntu
[10:04] <aurilliance> My pc has 4 partitions: (1) a small vista o/s partition (ntfs), (2) a large storage partition (ntfs), (3) a ubuntu partition (ext2 or whatever it is) and (4) a swap partition. From ubuntu I can see and mount partition (1), but cannot see partition (2). Any reason why?
[10:05] <topher_> ATI HD2600
[10:05] <minimec> sirninja: OK. I searched the Internet for your problem.  You need the WIndows Install disk and reinstall a working win MBR. Afterwards you can load the Live DIsk (or stick) again and restore grub. google for 'grub error 22'
[10:06] <mzz> minimec: hrm? installing grub in the mbr *should* still work, I'm pretty sure
[10:06] <sirninja> ok. thanks. I'll be back later if that doesn't work. :P
[10:07] <minimec> mzz: So how to get rid of the error, if he cannot install it in the MBR with setup (hd0) ?
[10:07] <DerKlempner> topher: i think AI released multiple drivers for linux, depending on the card you have.  you may want to double-check their site to see if you have the correct driver, but i'm not familiar with their audio support over HDMI in linux
[10:08] <DerKlempner> i'm quite sure NVidia's audio over HDMI is not supported, though
[10:09] <mzz> minimec: 22 is "No such partition" which is pretty weird if "find" found a file on it. I've seen grub get a bit weird if for some reason the drive is not in lba mode and the partition's near the end of the drive, but I wouldn't expect error 22 for that.
[10:09] <mzz> minimec: I still don't see what the mbr has to do with this though. "setup (hd0)" overwrites the mbr, it shouldn't read it.
[10:10] <ufo> hello , i think its better if ubuntu 9.04 use thunderbird and not evolution... much better actually :)
[10:10] <AD7six> hi trying to install ubuntu using the 9.04 live cd - even if I select safe graphics mode and/or choose acpi=off, no apci, no lapic, edd=on, I arrive at either a corrupt display or a blinking cursor
[10:10] <mzz> !best > ufo
[10:10] <AD7six> what can I do to further investigate the reason
[10:10] <mzz> ufo: imnsho: meh, just uninstall evo and install thunderbird if you disagree with the default.
[10:11] <bazhang> AD7six, md5 the iso yet? burn at low speed and do the disk integrity check?
[10:11] <billy> delicowa what command
[10:11] <ufo> sure never mind
[10:11] <bazhang> AD7six, if you have done all those, then either explore more !bootoptions , or try the alternate installer cd
[10:11] <mzz> AD7six: iirc "safe graphic mode" is still graphical. You could try a text-based install instead. But yeah, definitely do that disc integrity check first.
[10:13] <Shazburg> Guess ufo really hates Evolution.
[10:13] <minimec> mzz: Yeah... It is really unusual to have a '/' Partition at (hd0,6) in my eyes. Well'sirninja' has gone now, but what would be your suggestion?
[10:16] <AD7six> bazhang: mzz thanks for the hints will check the cd and use the alternate if there's nothing obvious
[10:16] <bazhang> AD7six, dont forget to md5 the iso as well, could be a corrupt iso
[10:16] <bazhang> !md5
[10:17] <AD7six> "Check finished: errors found in 1 files" guess that answers that
[10:18] <AD7six> I didn't think check disk refered to the cd :D
[10:19] <tim__> hello?
[10:19] <tim__> hello?
[10:20] <Pirate_Hunter> just did a minimal install from alternate cd 8.04, trying to run epiphany-browser and get error on D-bus - Failed to execute dbus-launch to launch D-Bus session, anyone care to tell me how to solve this problem?
[10:20] <quibbler> !ask | tim__
[10:21] <tim__> hello
[10:21] <Shazburg> No one here but us bots.
[10:22] <Shazburg> What do you need, tim__?
[10:22] <Pirate_Hunter> just did a minimal install from alternate cd 8.04, trying to run epiphany-browser and get error on D-bus - Failed to execute dbus-launch to launch D-Bus session, anyone care to tell me how to solve this problem?
[10:23] <justanothercoder> i need to install a simple proxy server on my ubuntu-server, is squid the way to go, or is there anything simpler?
[10:23] <JC_Denton_> can I use wget to download an entire, following only hyperlinks that point to files within the site?
[10:23] <tim__> I'm cool just checking out the xchat I installed.
[10:23] <neil1> Hey.
[10:23] <tim__> :)
[10:24] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: I haven't found squid too hard to get running.
[10:24] <moncky> justanothercoder: not sure if there is somthing simpler, however squid is what canonical use internally so I would expect good support for it
[10:24] <marcelk> i want to use oracle xe on my jaunty AMD64, but i get wrong ELF class, because its actually for 32 bits, it there any way to fix this?
[10:24] <neil1> Am very new linux and need some help with a problem im having with the dispaly
[10:25] <justanothercoder> shazburg : i've got squid running before, but i guess it has a lot of features which i don't really need . wondering if there is one with a smaller footprint
[10:25] <Shazburg> JC_Denton_: Take a look at the man file for wget. It has a mirror option.
[10:25] <JC_Denton_> Shazburg: thanks
[10:26] <Shazburg> neil1: Go ahead.
[10:26] <marcelk> justanothercoder, what dont you need? squid isnt that heavy i think
[10:27] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: filterproxy, maybe?
[10:27] <justanothercoder> oh well, maybe i'll just install squid :)
[10:28] <neil1> i am running ubuntu through virtual box on my vista pc, and the maximum screen res i can get is 800x600 and because of this the linux screen on my monitor is not filling the full screen
[10:28] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: I see a simpleproxy package. That sounds simple. ;)
[10:28] <gartral> I cant get my webcam too respond today... it worked up until a few days ago when i tried it... lsusb still reports it as there, but /dev/video and /dev/video0 are both "empty"
[10:28] <sirninja> I'm unable to reinstall grub from a live cd. i get error 22. what should I do?
[10:29] <Slart> neil1: have you installed the virtual box addons thingy?
[10:29] <Shazburg> neil1: You likely have a combination of factors. Just taking a blind stab at it, I'd say the driver VirtualBox is suppling is being picked up during install with a generic driver that may or may not be able to support a higher rez.
[10:29] <Slart> neil1: I think there should even be a menu option in the vm to mount the addons cd
[10:29] <minimec> mzz: sirninja is back, so if you have another idea for his error 22 prblem... ;)
[10:30] <Shazburg> neil1: Slart has you on the right path, I think. You may need the guest additions.
[10:30] <Slart> ah, guest additions.. that's the name.. thanks Shazburg
[10:31] <justanothercoder> Shazburg : here is my situation. i have two physical ports, eth0 and eth1 , eth0 gets a DHCP from my router, this router basically has my entire LAN on it. the router also has a wan connection. eth1 is my backup internet connection, i've created a virtual interface called eth0:1 and gave it an ip <IP_ADDRESS> . in case my primary internet connection goes down,people in my network can switch to proxy server <IP_ADDRESS> and be able to access the i
[10:31] <justanothercoder> nternet via the eth1 connection
[10:31] <justanothercoder> thats what i'm trying to do
[10:31] <om26er1> how to play wma in vlc. can any1 plz help
[10:31] <neil1> trying the addons now
[10:31] <om26er1> !wma
[10:31] <gartral> !wma | om26er1
[10:32] <om26er1> !wma
[10:32] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: That's quite a setup.
[10:32] <Ramonster> my make && make install command doesnt work... it says: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop. but the makefile.am is there... :S
[10:33] <justanothercoder> yes i know would be simple to have a load sharing/balancing router like  linksys RV016, i used to have one before, it sucked
[10:33] <neil1> trying to install guest addons but nothing happening. and i just realised the time too so im gonna have to try all this later
[10:33] <sirakim> slt
[10:33] <billy> night everyone be back on tomorrow :D
[10:33] <sirakim> someone speak french
[10:34] <Ramonster> sirakim: Have you tried the french channels?
[10:34] <trucMuche> sirakim, /j #ubuntu-fr
[10:34] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: Hey, I'm not judging.
[10:34] <Ramonster> !fr | sirakim
[10:34] <neil1> thanks anyway, will have a play around and if still no look ill be back
[10:34] <justanothercoder> my main internet connection goes out, not too frequently, so i'm thinking this would be a good temporary solution for emergencies
[10:34] <sirakim> thanks
[10:34] <horga> e cineva on?
[10:35] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: So, you're looking to have your server act as a backup router, yeah?
[10:35] <justanothercoder> yep
[10:35] <horga> sal
[10:35] <mzz> sirninja: exactly what did you type, and what's the output of "geometry (hd0)" (assuming you can pastebin)?
[10:35] <horga> am si eu niste probleme:)
[10:35] <horga> adica probleme...nu-s probleme dar..nu le stiu eu...pe toate:)
[10:35] <h0dges> hi, i've just been told by my touchscreen manufacturers support guys that i need to disable evdev. can you help me? thanks
[10:36] <om26er1> how to play WMA in vlc
[10:36] <mzz> h0dges: I'm assuming they meant just for their touchscreen, and that they told you what driver to use for it instead?
[10:36] <Ramonster> h0dges: apt-get remove evdev ?
[10:36] <gartral> !wma | om26er1
[10:36] <Sagaci> om26er1: install the metapackage ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:37] <horga> mi-am descarcat virualu box si nustiu de ce nu se deschide :( cica imi da ceva erroare justanothercoder ma poti ajuta?:)
[10:37] <gartral> om26er1: thats twice ive put that up, READ
[10:37] <sirninja> http://pastebin.com/m4097be65
[10:37] <Ramonster> !sp | horga
[10:37] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: It's been a few years since my CCNA bootcamp, but that setup you described might cause you a spot of trouble.
[10:37] <om26er1> gartral: which link to click
[10:37] <justanothercoder> Shazburg : why do you think so?
[10:37] <sirninja> and I did root (hd0,&) and then setup (hd0)
[10:37] <Ramonster> !fr | horga
[10:37] <gartral> om26er1: all are usefull
[10:38] <horga> ha?
[10:38] <h0dges> i've done a little bit of googling, and have seen that it can be done in xorg.conf. but no, they haven't told me anything other than : "About your problem, it is evdev driver issue.
[10:38] <h0dges> This driver is inbuilt in Ubuntu 9.04.
[10:38] <h0dges> Please disable it."
[10:38] <horga> nu inteleg:))
[10:38] <horga> ce ai zis?:)
[10:38] <leaf-sheep> How can I do this --> diff file1 file2 | pastebinit ?
[10:38] <leaf-sheep> It does not work.  Claiming I'm trying to send an empty document.
[10:38] <Ramonster> horga: where are u from?
[10:38] <minimec> h0dges: What do you mean by disable? have you ever 'enabled' it. 'evdev' is the event device driver used for special hardware, but normally you have to mention the evdev driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, if you want to use it.
[10:38] <horga> Romania
[10:38] <bazhang> horga, english here
[10:39] <bazhang> !ro | horga
[10:39] <mzz> sirninja: please include my nick or I'll miss your replies. Also, give me a minute to check something.
[10:39] <bazhang> horga, /join #ubuntu-ro
[10:39] <gartral> leaf-sheep: diff file1 file2 > diff.diff | pastebinit
[10:39] <horga> ok
[10:39] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: I'm still thinking this through, so bear with me for a moment.  Your switch is connected to your primary router, no?
[10:40] <justanothercoder> yes
[10:41] <mzz> sirninja: and "find /boot/grub/stage1" and "setup (hd0)" gave you what? Please pastebin again.
[10:41] <leaf-sheep> gartral: Still does not work.
[10:41] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: And eth1 is connected to your... backup internet connection via a router or bridge?
[10:41] <gartral> leaf-sheep: might need too make diff.diff into ./diff.diff
[10:41] <sirninja> mzz: http://pastebin.com/mbe9f7cb
[10:41] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: Or eth1 is connected to your switch and your backup connection is connected to your switch?
[10:42] <Ramonster> my make && make install command doesnt work... it says: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop. but the makefile.am is there... :S
[10:42] <justanothercoder> Shazburg : backup internet connection gets a dhcp address from my ISP's cable modem
[10:42] <leaf-sheep> gartral: Ran "diff libraries libraries-orig > ./diff.diff | pastebinit" --> "You are trying to send an empty document, exiting."
[10:42] <mzz> sirninja: that's pretty weird. You're in ubuntu, right? I wonder if it somehow ended up with a completely confused "maps" file
[10:43] <minimec> h0dges: Ok. As far as I see, you don't use the evdev driver for any device. Look at my xorg.conf. There you see that I use the evdev driver for Mouse1 http://paste.ubuntu.com/217734/
[10:43] <justanothercoder> Shazburg : eth1 is directly connected to the backup ISP's cable modem. it gets a dhcp address. eth0 is connected to a switch, switch connects to my main ISP's cable modem
[10:43] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: Got it.
[10:43] <sirninja> mzz: yeah. something's screwed up. gparted says my main hard drive is all unallocated even though I KNOW that's not true
[10:43] <mzz> sirninja: what drive(s) are in that system?
[10:43] <h0dges> here is cat /proc/bus/input/devices also: http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/55141
[10:44] <problemato_> join/ #ubuntu-de
[10:44] <sirninja> mzz: what do you mean?
[10:44] <mzz> sirninja: is there more than one hard drive in it?
[10:44] <minimec> h0dges: What kind of touchscreen is that?
[10:44] <mzz> sirninja: (not partiions, actual drives)
[10:44] <sirninja> mzz: no. it's one hard drive
[10:44] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: How does your server know what path to take to the internet?
[10:44] <gartral> leaf-sheep: ohh im stupid... diff libraries libraries-orig && pastebinit libraies-orig
[10:44] <mzz> sirninja: ok. What are you running gparted against?
[10:44] <mzz> sirninja: (sda, hda, that kind of thing)
[10:44] <justanothercoder> shazburg : i was just thinking about it
[10:45] <justanothercoder> shazburg : i guess setting the gateway address will be the problem
[10:45] <sirninja> mzz: /dev/sda
[10:45] <h0dges> eGalax 4-wire resistive non-HID usb panel
[10:45] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: What is your edge router?
[10:45] <mzz> sirninja: does "fdisk -l /dev/sda" also give you weirdness? Should print the partition table.
[10:45] <justanothercoder> shazburg : edge?
[10:46] <sirninja> mzz: that shows up correctly
[10:46] <h0dges> at the moment it's acting as a mouse trackpad
[10:46] <Shazburg> Your main router that directs lan traffic to your main internet connection?
 My pc has 4 partitions: (1) a small vista o/s partition (ntfs), (2) a large storage partition (ntfs), (3) a ubuntu partition (ext2 or whatever it is) and (4) a swap partition. From ubuntu I can see and mount partition (1), but cannot see partition (2). Any reason why?
[10:46] <mzz> sirninja: huh, then I really wonder what's going on with gparted. Sec...
[10:47] <justanothercoder> Shazburg : its just a switch that connects to my main ISP's cable modem
[10:47] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: I see.
[10:47] <eeejza> hi I have an issue putting ubuntu server on a RAID server, GRUB keeps giving me error 2 and 15
[10:47] <waleed> hello
[10:47] <waleed> i want LFS chat ,
[10:48] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: The picture is much clearer.
[10:48] <waleed> i want LFS IRC chat
[10:48] <mzz> sirninja: it should be listing /dev/sda1 as windows, /dev/sda2 (I think) as extended, /dev/sda3 as swap, /dev/sda5 (I think) and /dev/sda6 as linux. Is that correct?
[10:48] <mzz> sirninja: actually just pastebin that too :)
[10:48] <leaf-sheep> gartral: Nevermind.  It's not important but it was strange that I'm not able to output to a file.  I did it manually.  And the last command you gave me really didn't make a sense. :)
[10:48] <gharz> guys, i've a usb flash disk... whenever i execute `ls` i get this error ls: cannot access THEME: Input/Output error... what's the best thing to fix this? is this hardware related now?
[10:48] <mzz> waleed: lfs as in linux from scratch?
[10:49] <waleed> yes
[10:49] <waleed> yes Linux From Scratch :)
[10:49] <mzz> waleed: then you're a little lost :P
[10:49] <sirninja> mzz: http://pastebin.com/m2437aa43
[10:49] <minimec> h0dges: As I see in your xorg.conf, you use the egalax driver for the touchscreen. Where is your problem exactly now?
[10:49] <Mike94287> How can I set keyboard commands to launch a program?
[10:49] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: Well... if you want to have redundancy with your internet connection and/or load balancing between the connections, you have to have a router in one form or another.
[10:49] <mzz> gharz: could be hardware, could be a filesystem issue. Is this a fat or fat32 partition, and does it work in a different system or os?
[10:49] <waleed> mzz please tell me :)
[10:49] <mzz> waleed: try searching their website for where their irc channel is. This one is for the ubuntu distro.
[10:50] <gharz> mzz: it's fat16
[10:50] <gharz> 2gb hd... some folders can still be accessed
[10:50] <mzz> sirninja: eeeeeep. sda3 overlaps sda2!
[10:50] <gharz> is there any command like chkdsk which is equivalent in linux?
[10:50] <dstaubsauger> hi, is there a way to play wav/ogg/mp3 sounds with the internal pc speaker (the thing that plays the beep sounds)? i laready found this driver: http://www.geocities.com/stssppnn/pcsp.html but i dunno how to use it. i'm using jaunty server
[10:50] <justanothercoder> Shazburg : ok, let me try to mess with this a bit
[10:50] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: If you can't convince the suits to get something like a Cisco 1800, and your server load is light enough, you can use your server to do this.
[10:51] <mzz> gharz: try "dosfsck" (umount the partition first!)
[10:51] <justanothercoder> Shazburg : i have just five computers on my LAN
[10:51] <gharz> mzz: thanks
[10:51] <om26er1> is there any single audio player
[10:51] <eeejza> how can I know if the partition is bootable or not from a mounted disk?
[10:51] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: Then a third NIC seems a more reasonable price.
[10:51] <justanothercoder> Shazburg: and its not really mission critical. we're a small web dev agency, internet outages are just inconvenient
[10:51] <dstaubsauger> om26er1: what do you mean by "single audio player"?
[10:52] <sirninja> mzz: is that what is causing it?
[10:52] <cast> eeejza: what's bootable depends on your bootloader surely
[10:52] <mzz> sirninja: any idea how that might've happened? And are you supposed to have two linux partitions?
[10:52] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: I suppose they would be for you.
[10:52] <mzz> sirninja: I don't know if that's causing it but it's definitely not sane
[10:52] <sirninja> mzz: i have my home on a separate partition
[10:52] <eeejza> cast, well I usually asign a boot flag during the partitioning of a disk.
[10:52] <om26er1> dstaubsauger: only audio player not a video player
[10:52] <cge> dstaubsauger: You horrible person! I've been able to ignore that for years, and now I'm going to have to figure out how to do it.
[10:52] <sirninja> mzz: and I have no idea how that happened. I've done a lot of distro hopping lately, so I guess it happened during one of the installs
[10:52] <mzz> sirninja: fortunately none of the "actual" partitions overlap.
[10:53] <om26er1> dstaubsauger: and also by installing it no video player should b installed
[10:53] <om26er1> !audio
[10:53] <cast> eeejza: and then later discover ubuntu doesn't care? :)
[10:53] <mzz> sirninja: I'd back up anything important, then delete sda2 (using fdisk if gparted won't work on this layout) and recreate it as a logical partition (sda7)
[10:53] <bazhang> !players | om26er1
[10:53] <mzz> sirninja: NO WAIT
[10:53] <mzz> sirninja: err, sorry, I meant sda3 there
[10:53] <bazhang> om26er1, check that list
[10:53] <mzz> sirninja: sda3 is swap, so deleting it should be safe. Do *not* delete sda2!
[10:54] <h0dges> minimec: the problem is that it isn't being controlled by the driver it should be. my only  evidence for this is that it's acting like a trackpad and that's not it's normal behaviour. is there any other way i can figure out what's controlling this device? like logs or something?
[10:54] <cge> dstaubsauger: I think you just need to load the right driver, though, and that should create a new audio device.
[10:54] <h0dges> tell me how to help you help me! :)
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:54] <dstaubsauger> ok
[10:54] <sirninja> mzz: so should I delete that and then retry installing grub?
[10:54] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: Well, if you want to use your server as a proxy to keep connected to the web, you need three nics. If you want to have your server act as a router and balance the two connections (which is one way to get redundancy), then you need three NICs.
[10:54] <gharz> mzz: if i umount it... how do i dosfsck an unmounted device?
[10:54] <gharz> :)
[10:54] <gharz> :(
[10:55] <mzz> sirninja: your grub partition numbers are also off by one compared to the ones in the manual. I'd expect it to want (hd0,4), not (hd0,5). I don't know what's up with that. What does (hd0,<Tab> give you?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> !fsck
[10:55] <mzz> gharz: dosfsck /dev/insertdevicenamehere
[10:55] <Mike94287> How can I set a keyboard command to open a program
[10:55] <dstaubsauger> cge: do you know the name of the module?
[10:55] <mzz> ActionParsnip: this is a card reader or something, no need to reboot
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut | Mike94287
[10:55] <cge> dstaubsauger: I'm looking
[10:55] <dstaubsauger> ok, me too
[10:55] <justanothercoder> Shazburg : i don't need redundancy, just a fallback, if the primary goes down. i can even write a script that i can manually run everytime the main connection goes down
[10:56] <minimec> h0dges: Hold on a moment...
[10:56] <justanothercoder> or change the settings on the server to use the backup connection as the gateway
[10:56] <justanothercoder> even that would work
[10:56] <sirninja> mzz: So in grub sda6, would be hd0,5?
[10:56] <Mike94287> Thanks ActionParsnip
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> justanothercoder: you could even script a ping via a certai interface, ifit fails, switch the route ;)
[10:56] <mzz> sirninja: yeah, they're normally one less than the number you see in linx
[10:56] <mzz> linux, even
[10:56] <justanothercoder> ActionParsnip : neat :D
[10:57] <sirninja> mzz: so when grub was saying it was finding it on hd0,6, but fdisk only shows sda going up to 6 is there something up with that?
[10:57] <mzz> sirninja: yeah, I don't understand that. Grub running inside linux has quirks though...
[10:57] <gharz> mzz: it says Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 6. what does this mean?
[10:57] <mzz> sirninja: or it's possible your grub differs from the one I'm reading the manual of
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> sirninja: gru starts disk numbers at 0, partition numbers start at 1
[10:58] <mzz> gharz: what are you running it on exactly?
[10:58] <mzz> gharz: if the card has a partition make sure you run it on that, not on the raw device
[10:58] <mzz> gharz: (so run it on /dev/sdg1, not /dev/sdg)
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> sirninja: so i'd say so as partition 6 is sda7 (for example)
[10:58] <gharz> i have a usb flash disk and i want to check its filesystem (a command similar to chkdsk)....
[10:58] <mzz> gharz: (replace sdg with your actual card)
[10:58] <gharz> mzz: it doesn't have partition...
[10:59] <gharz> it's a 2gb usb flash disk
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> sirninja: the extrended partition is one though, so that makes sense
[10:59] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: ActionParsnip is right. It's an easy enough thing to do (round robin). As a netadmin though, I think this configuration makes things more complicated than they need to be.
[10:59] <mzz> gharz: that doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't have one large partition. Does /dev/sd<whatever>1 exist?
[10:59] <gharz> ok
[10:59] <gharz> mzz
[10:59] <gharz> ok.
[10:59] <nperry> Whats the gnome shutdown command?
[10:59] <cge> dstaubsauger: pcsp
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> gharz: it does, you cant access disks, the flash device has a single partition taking 100% of the device
[11:00] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: Course, the proper alternative has it's own complications.
[11:00] <mzz> nperry: I don't know about a terminal command, but you can click the red button in the top right.
[11:00] <sirninja> how would I delete sda3 from the command line?
[11:00] <mzz> nperry: (on the panel)
[11:00] <mzz> sirninja: use fdisk if gparted won't work
[11:00] <gharz> ok
[11:00] <dstaubsauger> cge: do i need to compile that myself?
[11:00] <gharz> let me check
[11:00] <cge> dstaubsauger: I'm not sure. I'm not running Ubuntu right now.
[11:00] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: Regardless, whatever you do, don't plug those two cable modems into the same switch. It's like crossing the streams in Ghostbusters.
[11:00] <dstaubsauger> cge: ok
[11:00] <sirninja> mzz: what would be the arguments? I really don't want to mess this up
[11:00] <cge> dstaubsauger: It's mainline, but it's a bit esoteric.
[11:00] <dstaubsauger> yeah
[11:01] <justanothercoder> shazburg : won't :)
[11:01] <mzz> sirninja: first check if swap is in use, actually.
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> gharz: its a thing that windows does,if you split a drive into 2 partitions. it will see a C "drive" and a D "drive" when infact there is only one drive, the "drives" are partitions
[11:01] <_kelahi> do you know game x-moto?
[11:01] <sirninja> mzz: it's all not using any memory, but it shows available under the free command. is that good enough?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> gharz: even if you only have C drive, its a disk with 1 partition taking 100% of the disk
[11:01] <mzz> sirninja:  might need to do "sudo swapoff -a" first, just in case. Then "fdisk /dev/sda", "d", "3", "w", I *think* (I don't want to actually delete any partitions here right now, sorry :)
[11:02] <mzz> sirninja: just running "swapoff -a" won't hurt.
[11:02] <gharz> mzz:  this is the result.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/217757/    ... i'm just wondering why does churvalooh, THEME and other folders doesn't appear on nautilus and cannot be deleted?
[11:02] <nperry> mzz, I know that. I'm currently making the change over to openbox and building my own menu!
[11:02] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: And if you run into any bumps, I'll be happy to give you my contact info privately for a consultation. I kinda do this for a living.
[11:02] <Slart> !hardy
[11:02] <mzz> nperry: sorry, I don't know.
[11:02] <mzz> nperry: if I'm not using gnome I usually have a different wm as master, so just exiting that ends my session
[11:03] <justanothercoder> Shazburg : thank you. sounds good. I'll try it out and if i run into any issues i'll PM you :)
[11:03] <sirninja> mzz: do I need to reboot since it says the kernel is still using the old partition table?
[11:03] <eeejza> ubottu, I amhaving some issues with that TLS version on my RAID server.
[11:03] <dstaubsauger> cge: when i do "sudo modprobe snd-pcsp" it loads a module
[11:03] <cge> That's a good sign.
[11:03] <mzz> gharz: might want to move some stuff out of the root directory into subfolders (assuming it lets you)
[11:04] <cge> dstaubsauger: That should create a new audio device.
[11:04] <mzz> gharz: I don't know how unhappy nautilus gets if the root directory is full if it tries to use a trash can there.
[11:04] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: That works. Good luck to you. And I'm still gonna say squid is your safest bet, even if it might be a little chubby for your needs.
[11:04] <justanothercoder> justanothercoder : thanks
[11:04] <sirninja> mzz: nevermind. I tried reinstalling grub, and it appeared to work. thank you SO much! Now I can get out of windows again. :P
[11:04] <gharz> mzz: can't access THEME, churvalooh and twilight... it says access error from terminal
[11:04] <mzz> sirninja: huh, you shouldn't normally get that. If you do I'd reboot (better safe than sorry)
[11:04] <dstaubsauger> cge: there's no /dev/dsp or /dev/snd
[11:05] <gharz> mzz: this folders do not appear on nautilus
[11:05] <mzz> sirninja: oh, don't forget to create a new swap partition. I'm assuming gparted will work again post-reboot.
[11:05] <cge> dstaubsauger: strange
[11:05] <sirninja> mzz: hopefully. :P
[11:05] <Ryan4> Hello Fellas, having problems with my sound. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't (mp3's, vids, etc...). Login sounds works though... Could be because I installed Ubuntu in Windows, and somehow the sound setting is coming through??
[11:05] <cge> dstaubsauger: nothing in dmesg to indicate that anything was created?
[11:05] <dstaubsauger> lsmod | grep pcsp
[11:05] <dstaubsauger> pcspkr                 10496  0
[11:05] <mzz> gharz: dosfsck complains about them too. I'm assuming corruption, either of the filesystem or the hardware kind.
[11:05] <mzz> gharz: I'd make sure there's a fewer files on the root of the filesystem before trying to repair further though.
[11:06] <minimec> h0dges: http://paste.ubuntu.com/217763/ I rewrote yu xorg.conf a little bit to get some order in it.
[11:06] <dstaubsauger> ahh: [ 4510.353833] Error: Driver 'pcspkr' is already registered, aborting...
[11:06] <cge> dstaubsauger: That's not it.
[11:06] <cge> dstaubsauger: pcspkr isn't pcsp
[11:06] <cge> dstaubsauger: You probably need to unload pcspkr
[11:06] <UbuntuUser> hi all
[11:06] <dstaubsauger> cge: perhaps it prevents it from loading
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> !hi | UbuntuUser
[11:06] <mzz> minimec: you know modern xorgs ignore kbd/mouse InputDevice sections by default, right?
[11:07] <gharz> mzz: i guess i'll just reformat this
[11:07] <gharz> :)
[11:07] <minimec> h0dges: I verified that Mouse0 is detected as CorePointer, and the Touchscreen is SendCOreEvents.
[11:07] <bauer_> i have 500 giga which is not mountet. How do i do that ?
[11:07] <UbuntuUser> how to install ubuntu on usb using entire space on pendrive /it is 8GB nad fat32 formatted/
[11:07] <UbuntuUser> ?
[11:08] <Slart> UbuntuUser: I don't think you can install ubuntu on a fat32 filesystem
[11:08] <Shazburg> bauer_: Take a look at the man file for `mount`
[11:08] <UbuntuUser> sorry, nad=and
[11:08] <h0dges> minimec: thanks. for the touchscreen entry, how does usbauto work in the option device field?
[11:08] <dstaubsauger> cge: i unloaded the pcspkr module, now pcsp-sound shows in lsmod
[11:08] <minimec> mzz: If it is in xorg.conf, it also uses it. I always have to configure my xorg.conf and I always did the whole conf, to have an overview...
[11:08] <Slart> UbuntuUser: apart from that little detail.. check what ubottu has to say about !usb
[11:08] <cge> dstaubsauger: ah, good
[11:08] <UbuntuUser> !usb
[11:08] <dstaubsauger> i think i've found the problem
[11:08] <dstaubsauger> [ 4510.353833] Error: Driver 'pcspkr' is already registered, aborting...
[11:08] <Shazburg> Slart: We're waitind for the magic... there we go.
[11:08] <dstaubsauger> [ 4741.248066] PCSP: Make sure you have HPET and ACPI enabled.
[11:08] <dstaubsauger> that's my problem
[11:09] <h0dges> minimec: i was thinking for changing it to /dev/input/mouse1 or /dev/input/event7 to see if the problem was it couldn't identify it properly
[11:09] <dstaubsauger> i'll try to boot with acpi=force - the mainboard is from 1998
[11:09] <minimec> h0dges: I cannot tell you that. I use Option          "Device""/dev/input/by-id/usb-Logitech_USB_Gaming_Mouse-event-mouse"
[11:09] <DVA5912> anyone got any idea why the ubuntu startup logo is gone? I installed startup-manager and now its gone. i got a bunch of text now and im trying to totaly get away from that
[11:10] <h0dges> how do i find the id of the device?
[11:10] <minimec> h0dges: Try to have a look in /dev/input/by-id ;)
[11:10] <h0dges> k
[11:10] <jilbert> anybody familiar with nagios?
[11:10] <Slart> DVA5912: try starting the app you just installed.. I think it might let you configure what to show at startup... it could be that a text only boot is the default setting for it
[11:11] <Slart> DVA5912: look in the system-menu, administration, startup-manager
[11:11] <DVA5912> Slart: i made sure that textonly was not checked
[11:11] <h0dges> minimec: i might be being noob, but i don't appear to have a by-id directory, only by-path
[11:11] <gharz> mzz: thanks!!!!!!
[11:11] <Slart> DVA5912: is "Show boot splash" checked?
[11:11] <DVA5912> It is now :)
[11:11] <Slart> DVA5912: =)
[11:11] <DVA5912> Rebooting
[11:12]  * ActionParsnip always uninstalls usplash, its pointless
[11:12] <bauer_> Shazburg, isn't there a grafical interface to mounting ?
[11:13] <pup> i need some help with the obexftp package...
[11:13] <minimec> h0dges: Are you sure... I have my dvb-t, keyboard, and mouse... in there.
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> !find mount
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-mount
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> bauer_: looks like it
[11:15] <Shazburg> bauer_: There may be, but I don't know what that would be. Don't fear the command line, though. That's where the magic happens.
[11:15] <N|x> hey all wassup
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> !info 9mount
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> hey N|x
[11:16] <h0dges> minimec: ive tried as user and root, and have explicitly written the path but it still says it doesn't exist
[11:17] <N|x> so what going on here
[11:17] <h0dges> minimec: im going to reboot now and try various idents to see if that's the issue. cheers
[11:17] <minimec> h0dges: Are you on 8.04 (hardy) or 9.04 (jaunty)
[11:17] <error404notfound> i cant seem to fins sun-java6* in my apt-cache, i want to install sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-demo
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> N|x:  uuntu support
[11:17] <UbuntuUser> but there must be some way. of courese fat32 is limitaed - filesize can`t be larger than 4GB. but i do not belive there is no way to divide ubuntu`s image
[11:17] <error404notfound> i am on hardy heron
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> !java | error404notfound
[11:18] <N|x> !help
[11:18] <N|x> .help
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: do you have multiverse enabled?
[11:18] <Slart> !bot | N|x
[11:18] <error404notfound> ActionParsnip, lemme check source.lst
[11:18] <wbc> I need help finding a BitTorrent client for Ubuntu, which have a time-scheduler similar to the one µTorrent uses. Do anyone of you know about one?
[11:18] <or4n9e> is it possible to create an usb image as a virtual disc that contain the partition information and dynamically adapts to the real usb stick geometry with expanding to the medium utilizing dd?
[11:19] <or4n9e> -with +while
[11:19] <error404notfound> !Multiverse
[11:19] <firestarter1> hi. is there a graphical utility for adding/removing services ?
[11:21] <os11> how to setup ssl server in ubuntu?
[11:21] <UbuntuUser> firestarter1:  system->administration->services
[11:21] <wbc> I need help finding a BitTorrent client for Ubuntu, which have a time-scheduler similar to the one µTorrent uses. Do anyone of you know about one?
[11:21] <Shazburg> !ssl
[11:21] <N|x> wiki ssl
[11:21] <pup> wbc: have you tried deluge?
[11:22] <th0r> os11: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=ssl+server+for+ubuntu&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&fp=KxYPMM6r3XA
[11:22] <Slart> wbc: azureus probably has that.. as a plugin if nothing else
[11:22] <Slart> !torrent
[11:23] <wbc> Thanks Slart, gonna check it out
[11:23] <or4n9e> is there a specialized channel for questions like this?
[11:23] <firestarter1> thanks UbuntuUser
[11:23] <DVA5912> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/splashy_0.3.13-3ubuntu1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/etc/lsb-base-logging.sh', which is also in package lsb-base   Im trying to install splashy and  it keeps geving me this. Im using synaptic
[11:23] <Slart> wbc: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/plugin_details.php?plugin=SpeedScheduler
[11:24] <DVA5912> thats the error btw
[11:24] <diddy> Would it be advisible to let filesharing programs and anything that has server functionality run under a user that has extremely limited rights?
[11:25] <bauer_> Shazburg, on istallalation there is a program with a relative userfriendly interface. But what is the name off that program ?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> diddy: can't see why not as long as its torrents etc
[11:27] <diddy> ActionParsnip, can't see why or can't see why not?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> diddy: should be fine to implement. torrents restrict file access to the files you are seeding
[11:27] <laeg> can anyone tell me the difference in Gufw between allowing a port and limiting it? (the other two options are deny and block) i've googled and can't find the answer
[11:28] <Slart> diddy: as a general rule apps shouldn't have more permissions than they need.. but there is also a balance of time spent of configuring stuff vs chances of something bad happening
[11:28] <diddy> ActionParsnip, but but about bugs in the torrent client?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> diddy: there are bugs in all torrent clients, even in mac, even in windows
[11:29] <cge> dstaubsauger: Unfortunately, none of my computers here have real pcspeakers, so pcsp seems to just give strange results.
[11:29] <diddy> ActionParsnip, yes, then you understand what I mean right?
[11:29] <dstaubsauger> :P
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> diddy: oh yeah, file access to a server and wanting to keep it as secure as possible
[11:29] <diddy> ActionParsnip, so should i let all filesharing programs run under a different user?
[11:29] <kaini> Whats the best program to view thunderbirds Inbox files?
[11:30] <Slart> kaini: uhm.. thunderbird? or that doesn't work for some reason?
[11:30] <minimec> kaini: thunderbird?... ;)
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> diddy: you could run it as a user not in the admin group. This will greatly increase security
[11:30] <kaini> Slart, minimec, well it only reads the first 5 mails for some reason on Ubuntu. I tried claws mail that read the first 9.. really strange
[11:31] <L3dPlatedLinux> was wondering were are the packages that download stored after install in synaptic
[11:31] <echosystm> is there any reason why eclipse in the repo has been stuck at 3.2 since like... ubuntu 6?
[11:31] <diddy> ActionParsnip, that is a good idea? Any other rights I should remove from that client?
[11:31] <Slart> kaini: hm..it's not a setting in thunderbird ie show only the latest mails or something silly like that?
[11:32] <diddy> ActionParsnip, ActionParsnip, that is a good idea? Any other rights I should remove from that the user?
[11:32] <kaini> Slart, it reads the *first* 5 there are from 2006
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> diddy: just as much as you can without affecting functionality
[11:32] <Slart> echosystm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE
[11:32] <minimec> kaini: Can you export the whole database and then inport it again? Could be that the file is somehow corrupted. I don't know...
[11:32] <Slart> kaini: ok.. so probably not that then =)
[11:33] <kaini> minimec, I'll try that
[11:33] <user_> server irc.apropo.ro
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> diddy: the more restricted the better, you could even try making its shell /bin/false
[11:34] <Tetsuoo> I updated the system now I have low resolution, problem with nvidia drivers
[11:34] <minimec> kaini: Export the thunderbird database, then rename (backup) the .mozilla-zunderbird directory. Open Thunderbird and import the database. That's what I would try.
[11:35] <diddy> ActionParsnip, how does that work with sudo, though?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Tetsuoo: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> diddy: how do you mean?
[11:35] <kaini> minimec, okay I'll try - just importing/exporting the folder does not work
[11:35] <kaini> But I didn't try the whole profile yet
[11:36] <Tetsuoo> ActionParsnip, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8800 GTS 512 (rev a2)
[11:36] <laeg> can anyone tell me the difference in Gufw between allowing a port and limiting it? (the other two options are deny and block) i've googled and can't find the answer
[11:36] <diddy> ActionParsnip, I am confused. I the user that runs the filesharing program is not in the admin group but in the sudoers group then is there still a risk?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Tetsuoo: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[11:37] <diddy> ActionParsnip, On Ubuntu there is no root. We do admin tasks with sudo, so how big is the risk there?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> diddy: then it needs to not be in the sudoers group, the admin group gives you sudo capability
[11:37] <daglees> sudo su
[11:38] <jussi01> daglees: sudo -i  ;)
[11:38] <Slart> laeg: limiting a port closes it if someone is making a set number of connection attempts in a certain time
[11:38] <Slart> laeg: protects against brute force attacks
[11:38] <daglees> wow even better
[11:38] <daglees> ;P
[11:38] <UbuntuUser> will i destroy my flash drive if i will format it into ext3 file system? is it possoble?
[11:38] <Slart> UbuntuUser: no
[11:39] <Slart> UbuntuUser: you will lose all data on it though
[11:39] <laeg> Slart: so with it limited i'll still be able to ssh? what about the port i use bittorrent on, don't limit that, right?
[11:39] <laeg> (ssh from a remote ip)
[11:39] <echosystm> Slart: is there some repo that has 3.5 in it?
[11:39] <diddy> ActionParsnip, let's say that I run bit torrent under a user that can sudo (admin tasks). If there is a critical bug in my bittorrent client or other client, then can the attacker become root ?
[11:39] <slava_dp> UbuntuUser, better use ext2, you don't want journal on a usb flash drive.
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuUser: i'd format it ext2, it will last longer. the data will be destroyed if you format it to any file system
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> diddy: it will need to know the users password to then use sudo commands
[11:40] <Slart> laeg: I have no idea really... it would be useful to limit a port used for ssh, I guess... I would start out limiting and if things stop working change things
[11:40] <UbuntuUser> i have it empty bu i`m wondering it is good solution
[11:40] <charnel> how can I determine where my soundcard is ? ex : dev/xxxx
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> diddy: if you disallow the users use of sudo (not in admin group) then it can only do as much as a user can and no more
[11:40] <Slart> echosystm: eclipse? I have no idea.. haven't used it myself
[11:41] <echosystm> oh ok
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuUser: if its to be used in linux systems only then i'd say yes
[11:41] <slava_dp> UbuntuUser, ext2 is much faster than fat32, but incompatible with windows.
[11:41] <diddy> ActionParsnip, you mean not matter if the client program is buggy as hell? He can do no harm if the user is is i no sudo group?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> slava_dp: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[11:42] <prospire> whats the command to copy a file called php_browscap.ini from desktop and paste it in /etc/php5/apache2/extra from the root?
[11:42] <UbuntuUser> this pendrive is only for my linux system as emergency os
[11:42]  * jmartelatpapirux has script-kiddies molesting by http and ftp.
[11:42] <Ramonster> my make && make install command doesnt work... it says: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop. but the makefile.am is there... :S
[11:42] <kaini> minimec, hm no same result
[11:42] <Slart> laeg: nice article about limiting http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/187
[11:42] <kaini> It is strange that claws mail can read more mails than thunderbird
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> prospire: sudo cp ~/Desktop/php_browscap.ini  /etc/php5/apache2/extra
[11:43] <slava_dp> ActionParsnip, well i know there are tools. are you going to be carrying them with you on a floppy disk if you want to use your usb drive in an internet cafe?
[11:43] <UbuntuUser> how about installing it? shoul i use regular installation or pd-type?
[11:43] <minimec> kaini: sorry then I don't know then, what to do...
[11:43] <UbuntuUser> shoul=should, sorry
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> slava_dp: it is possible is all i'm saying
[11:43] <kaini> Thanks anyway
[11:43] <generic> does ubuntu respect xorg.conf 's
[11:44] <Slart> generic: yes
[11:44] <UbuntuUser> pd-type i mean by usb creator included in ubuntu
[11:44] <generic> will it look at first then use hal on the rest of the stuff?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> diddy: if the user is not able to use sudo then the only data it can change is what is in its home directory, it may read other data if permissions have been granted on the files, otherwise it will be very limited
[11:44] <Slart> generic: it's just empty by default.. you can add settings and stuff to it though
[11:44] <generic> Slart: good!
[11:44] <prospire> and how do I rename php_browscap.ini to browscap.ini?
[11:44] <haptiK> prospire: mv
[11:44] <prospire> mv??
[11:45] <prospire> can u tell me the whole command please
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> prospire: mv php_browscap.ini browscap.ini
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> prospire: mv is used to rename, as youmove it to the same location as another name
[11:45] <prospire> ActionParsnip: php_browscap.ini is in /ets/php5/apache2/extra
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> prospire: you should websearch terminal commands of that level rather than ask in here
[11:46] <laeg> Slart: ty once more :)
[11:46] <prospire> so will the command be mv php_/ets/php5/apache2/extrabrowscap.ini /ets/php5/apache2/extrabrowscap.ini
[11:46] <prospire> ?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> prospire: then add the path
[11:46] <prospire> /ets/php5/apache2/extra/php_browscap.ini /ets/php5/apache2/extra/browscap.ini
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> prospire: yes, exactly
[11:46] <prospire> ok
[11:46] <Ali_nz> how you monitor resources like cpu usage and physcial memory in ubunutu?
[11:46] <mzz> minimec: (much delayed reply, but still...) might want to check your Xorg.0.log for "AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse'
[11:46] <mzz> will be disabled
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: top
[11:46] <th0r> Ali_nz: gkrellm
[11:47] <mzz> minimec: err, mispaste. But still. It may not be using all the InputDevice sections you think it is using.
[11:47] <leohartx> how do i get routing table using ubuntu ?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> leohartx: route
[11:47] <th0r> leohartx: type 'route'
[11:47] <ecolitan> Ali_nz: try top
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> nice and easy questions today :)
[11:47] <prospire> ActionParsnip: my Konsole shows an error
[11:47] <prospire> mv: cannot move `/etc/php5/apache2/extra/php_browscap.ini' to `/etc/php5/apache2/extra/browscap.ini': Permission denied
[11:48] <Ali_nz> getting gkrellm now
[11:48] <Ali_nz> thanks
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> prospire: use tab to autocomplete the folder and file names
[11:48] <UbuntuUser> ActionParsnip: have you installed ubuntu on your pd using regular install or usb creator included in ubuntu?
[11:48] <Ali_nz> might look at top too
[11:48] <leohartx> well, ty ,but result seem identical to netstat -r
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> prospire: you will need sudo as well, users do not have write access to /etc
[11:48] <Ali_nz> I doing a ddrescue and as it goes on it seems to make the system slower and slower!!! got to see why
[11:48] <minimec> mzz: Well I don't care about the kbd driver for example. But it surely uses the evdev driver, when I want a device to use it.
[11:48] <th0r> leohartx: route -n
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: it fills up the other partition with the image of the partition you are dd_resueing
[11:49] <ecolitan> prospire: sudo in front
[11:49] <leohartx> th0r : btw, how do i read content from file which is printed out by tcpdump ?
[11:49] <th0r> leohartx: less
[11:49] <leohartx> th0r : i mean "decode" or decrypt
[11:50] <prospire> ActionParsnip: thx.... ecolitan: thx
[11:50] <leohartx> th0r : it says : it's a binary file
[11:50] <leohartx> th0r : i'd tried to open it using vi
[11:51] <th0r> leohartx: wireshark
[11:51] <leohartx> th0r : but i cant read it
[11:51] <laeg> Slart: "An example is probably the simplest way to illustrate how it works. The following two rules will limit incoming connections to port 22 to no more than 3 attemps in a minute - an more than that will be dropped:" ok so it limites the number of connections, but what if i can't connect because someone else is bruteforcing it?
[11:51] <diddy> Does anybody know where the Firefox profile is located on Ubuntu?
[11:51] <leohartx> th0r : is there any way to work out it by using tcpdump and options ???
[11:51] <mzz> diddy: depends! which version of firefox/
[11:52] <Ali_nz> anyone here ever used ddrescue much?
[11:52] <th0r> leohartx: don't know...I use wireshark
[11:52] <petx> diddy, /etc/firefox/profile
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: a little
[11:52] <th0r> leohartx: you might check the man page
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: pair it with foremost and you have a data recovery team :D
[11:52] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: remember what sorta data recovery rate you get?
[11:53] <leohartx> th0r : i'll check it, ty
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: i use ata66 drives so its dead slow, you probably use sata which is much faster
[11:53] <zen_> #bi-sexual
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: just make sure you use 2 drives on seperate controllers and it will go fine
[11:54] <zen_> exit
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: it will take as long as the drive is large
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> zen_: try /quit or /exit
[11:54] <zen_> ty
[11:55] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: seperate controllers?
[11:55] <Ali_nz> why
[11:55] <UbuntuUser> anyone know some cool application that can create iso whit everything what i have installed? i mean something like norton ghost
[11:55] <th0r> UbuntuUser: aptoncd
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: then the data flows down one controller and up the other, if the data has to go back up the same controller it will be slower
[11:56] <UbuntuUser> is best if it will be gui-type application
[11:56] <UbuntuUser> th0r: have it gui?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> !clone
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuUser: ^ read that
[11:56] <Paavi2_0> !automate
[11:56] <th0r> UbuntuUser: don't know...haven't used it
[11:57] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: ok - slow I can handle as long as it doesnt crash again
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuUser: may apps dont have a gui, you should not shy away from command line, its where the power lives
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: you could set the process a lower nice value, like -5 and it ill run better as it gets more cpu time
[11:58] <th0r> UbuntuUser: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=aptoncd&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10&fp=KxYPMM6r3XA
[11:58] <UbuntuUser> and how about file premissions when i`ll use i.e aptoncd?
[11:58] <Ali_nz> hmmm, I think I only got 512meg of ram
[11:58] <Ali_nz> and its using most of it
[11:58] <Ali_nz> the linux box is doing nothing else but running ddrescue
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuUser: what about them, they are only deb files for updating and transfering deb files from system to system
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: then you are in the same boat as me for most things that take time..let it run (i do mine overnight)
[11:59] <th0r> UbuntuUser: you will need root permissions to install the files
[11:59] <prospire> can anybody tell me how do I restart apache??
[12:00] <ubunoob> ActionParsnip, i tried to reinstall nvidia drivers as you told me earlier, now its completely broken, ubuntu starts in text mode only
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> prospire: sudo /etc/init/d/apache restart   possibly
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> prospire: use tab to complete the apache word, it may be apache2
[12:00] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: reading about foremost - looks wicked
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: no need for it if you have a backup
[12:01] <L3dPlatedLinux> can I get a package from the synaptic and download it only , so I can move it to a thumb drive and install it to another pc?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> ubunoob: then run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:01] <moncky> ActionParsnip: /etc/init.d....
[12:01] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: I do, but my friends clearly dont ;-)
[12:01] <UbuntuUser> everythin seems me not good at all. how about scripts, settings, configs and antother stuff? i`d like to move entire ubuntu installation, not only packages contained in system
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> ubunoob: don't use frame buffer, then when you are back at the prompt run: startx
[12:01] <ubunoob> ActionParsnip, it sais xserver-xorg broken or not full yinstalled
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> moncky: bah, yeah you're right
[12:02] <th0r> L3dPlatedLinux: you might try getdeb.net
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: thats where you can make a killing. I have a system specifically for data restores, nice little earner
[12:02] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: I just need to get ddrescue running reliably. I was using a USB-SATA adapter, but that didnt work very well. Now I got a cheap SATA/IDE controller card for the job. seems better so far, but the linux box did seem to crash once....grrrrrr
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: all drives have ide ;)
[12:03] <deany> L3dPlatedLinux, check for dependencies if you do download just the deb
[12:03] <Ali_nz> ok SATA/PATA
[12:03] <sidewalk> does anyone use blueman to setup network(s)?
[12:03] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: what do you use for data recovery?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: nice
[12:03] <C-S-B> sidewalk: yess, only way to get 3g working easily of my phone
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: for my friends, dd_rescure if the drive is shot, then foremost, or just foremost
[12:04] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: PATA is onboard mobo, and sata on the card. its a old PC, P4 I think but it dont need to be flashy for DR
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: for myself, i have backups running to a firewire drive every 6 hours so i just restore
[12:04] <phaidros> re
[12:04] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: at my work we had a device that bypassed the hdd control board and interfaced directly with the drive.
[12:04] <phaidros> there was once a script to move an alternate iso image to an usb stick, which from one could boot. any hints?
[12:05] <Ali_nz> C-S-B: PC3000 it could be
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: my dr system is a p2 333
[12:05] <Ali_nz> or some software can do that too, like MHDD
[12:05] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: wow!
[12:05] <eeejza> hi any suggestion how can I fix this, GRUB keeps telling me Error 2 which is that the selected disk doesn't exist however I mount it using a livecd and was able to mount it myself
[12:05] <C-S-B> phaidros: try unetbooting
[12:05] <C-S-B> *unetbootin
[12:06] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: I just dont want my box to crash again. Being remotely logged into it is nice since I dont need a extra keyboard, mouse or screen, but I wonder if it was VNC that crashed it?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: all my systems are around that spec, file server is a p3 500, rouuter is same, destop is 1.6ghz semp
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> !grub | eeejza
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: possibly, try it at the system and quit vnc to test
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: you can do it via ssh
[12:07] <Ali_nz> see the thing that worries me is when I click on anything while ddrescue is running it goes very slow, but CPU utilisation is still low
[12:07] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: without offence meant, you hw seems a  bit, well, cack?
[12:07] <moncky> Ali_nz: what is your disk I/O like
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: yeah but i chat and web browse so i don't need a quad core with 8gb ram do i?
[12:08] <Ali_nz> 58k?
[12:08] <phaidros> C-S-B: not what I looked for, but might worth a look :)
[12:08] <Ali_nz> 63k...
[12:08] <LuYu> i asked this question a couple of weeks ago
[12:08] <LuYu> but i have to ask it again:
[12:08] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: true, but hw does have a tendancy to die  at that age
[12:08] <UbuntuUser> i have my digg results. aplication exactly wat i need is called Remastersys
[12:08] <Ali_nz> sitting around 58k i think
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: my hardware is free, OS is free, lots spare money to go on holiday and see the world instead of sat infront of a screen
[12:09] <phaidros> C-S-B: sry, exactly what I was looking for :D
[12:09] <thebe> I wonder why my cpu is consumed 65% above by Virtual Box and 45% up by firefox????
[12:09] <phaidros> and the other one was:
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: true but then i'll have been given / have salvaged some new stuff
[12:09] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: point made. :)
[12:09] <Ali_nz> moncky: make sense?
[12:09] <phaidros> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[12:09] <LuYu> what can be done to make sure that ubuntu systems can connect to arbitrary access points without DNS configs
[12:09] <thebe> and I am running ubuntu in Acer aspire 5530!
[12:09] <moncky> Ali_nz: what does your disks do?
[12:09] <Ali_nz> moncky: in what way?
[12:09] <C-S-B> phaidros: np, trust me, you'll never look back once you have unetbootin -its awesome!
[12:09] <LuYu> it seems that windows users have no problems with these sorts of APs
[12:10] <moncky> Ali_nz: it may be going slow due to I/O of the HDD as oppoesed to memory and cpu
[12:10] <LuYu> but ubuntu often cannot connect to the net through them
[12:10] <sidewalk> !blueman
[12:10] <L3dPlatedLinux> deany,  ok was looking for gnome network manager and its not there. Ok this is what happened my wife was on her lappy and wanted a wifi radar like app and she went to install kwlan and it removed the gnome one in the install process and she couldnt figure out kwlan and well I couldnt either but with out the gnome network manager there was no net at all wired or wifi so I tried to get it from the dvd rom as a install point and nothing so what I was w
[12:10] <L3dPlatedLinux> ondering  was could I have d/l ed it with this synaptic and went to where the packages are stored and copied to a thumb drive and then in stalled it that way on the other pc?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: you are right though. it is cack ;)
[12:10] <Ali_nz> yeah well I am running ddrescue, but not to/from the boot drive
[12:10] <moncky> Ali_nz: remeber your system is only as fast as its slowest part, which is likely your HDD
[12:10] <moncky> Ali_nz: seperate physical disks?
[12:10] <Ali_nz> yes
[12:11] <LuYu> i have already tried the solutions given to me the last time, and they didnt work
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> L3dPlatedLinux: you can add your install CD as a repo and install it from that
[12:11] <diddy> petx, mzz Thx I have found it.
[12:11] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: I say it as though my hw is cutting edge but my server is a p4 with 512 ram and I'm running a atom core at the moment
[12:11] <C-S-B> :P
[12:11] <L3dPlatedLinux> ActionParsnip,  I tried that by checking the cd rom disk in the soruces list and still i got nothing
[12:11] <moncky> Ali_nz: sorry, was just a hunch that it was I/O
[12:11] <LuYu> these solutions included using distributed DNSes
[12:12] <Ali_nz> moncky: np
[12:12] <LuYu> making the resolv.conf file immutablle
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> L3dPlatedLinux: then you can use command line to configure the wired connection to get online and install the packages
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: p4 is a nice chip
[12:13] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: i am looking at target .bin file and its size doesnt change
[12:13] <Ali_nz> is that normla?
[12:13] <Ali_nz> normal
[12:13] <Ali_nz> shouldnt it be slowly getting bigger?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: it should increase as the process runs. Its possible the data being curently read is very faulty and is being omitted
[12:14] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: but the server is off now :P I'm going to do format it and reset it all up when I'mm back home
[12:14] <L3dPlatedLinux> ActionParsnip,  okthat might take awhile , with that said where are the synaptic packages stored when it d/l them?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: thats what dd rescue does, bit by bit copy of the data, _rescue just keeps going and ignores uncopyable data which dd will abort on normally
[12:15] <Ali_nz> oh well leave it running tonight and see what happens in the morning
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> L3dPlatedLinux: doesnt take any time at all, just kill whatever network app you have and run:  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart; sudo dhclient eth0
[12:15] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: how well do you find ddrescue works? Looks like an interesting bit of software.
[12:16] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: how dead does the drive have to be before this doesnt work?
[12:16] <LuYu> and installing wicd
[12:16] <kerimbasol_>  we have a problem about mount command i dont know how to use it for mounting smb ?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> L3dPlatedLinux: or you can go to the packages site for your release and download individual deb files and transfer, but if there are any dependancys needed you will need those too
[12:16] <Ali_nz> C-S-B: will work with logical errors, and bad sectors
[12:16] <Ali_nz> wont work with physical errors like stuck heads and dead PCB's, failing firmware
[12:17] <L3dPlatedLinux> ActionParsnip,  ty
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: dd_rescue goes til the end of the drive being copied or the destination drive becomes full
[12:17] <giovanni> ggg
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: whichever happens first
[12:17] <kerimbasol_> please help about mount command. I am newbie
[12:18] <moncky> kerimbasol_: fist stop should be man mount
[12:18] <Ali_nz> is there a quick command to open a new terminal window?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: alt+f2 type terminal, hit enter
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut | Ali_nz
[12:18] <kerimbasol_> moncky : i want to mount a windows share but i dont know i looked at man but i didn't understand anything
[12:19] <Ali_nz> k
[12:19] <kerimbasol_> moncky : i have problem with my boss for this problem reason. I have to solve .
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: if you run something like tilda, you can have it drop down / roll up on hotkey
[12:19] <moncky> kerimbasol_: is the windows share on a different machine?
[12:20] <kerimbasol_> moncky : yeap
[12:20] <Slart> ActionParsnip: gnome-terminal might work better.. don't think there is something named "terminal"
[12:20] <Ali_nz> tilda - ok another thing to google ::-)
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Slart: i thought it was abstracted
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> !info tilda
[12:20] <Slart> ActionParsnip: Alt+F2 doesn't do the nice things gnome-do and such do
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: did you ever play quake / half-life / doom
[12:20] <moncky> kerimbasol_: If your windows machine is a seperate physical machine you want to look at Samba
[12:21] <Slart> ActionParsnip: not on my system at least
[12:21] <moncky> !samba > kerimbasol_
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> Slart: i dont use gnomedo
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> Slart: tilda all the way for me
[12:21] <kerimbasol_> moncky : i heard its name
[12:21] <Slart> ActionParsnip: ah =)
[12:22] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: see this worries me. the time stamp on my log file is progressing, but the size of the log file is not. surely it should be getting bigger, if even only to record bad sectors in the logfile?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: not sure duder
[12:23] <Ali_nz> well the numbers on the recovery screen are changing at least
[12:24] <C-S-B> is anyone as odd as me and continually types 'clear' so their terminal looks call neat?
[12:24] <echosystm> how do you get the grid compiz plugin?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: i do, its in a great many of my scripts too
[12:24] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: thank god. I thought i was the only one. :P
[12:25] <Ali_nz> how do I get back to the top of my user directory?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: i type it on my work lappy too (XP) makes me laugh, as well as ls
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: cd ~/
[12:25] <C-S-B> xp its clrscrn or something isnt it?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: will take you home
[12:25] <or4n9e> I try to extract an rpm in intrepid and get "cpio: Malformed number"
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: cls
[12:25] <Ali_nz> thanks
[12:25] <or4n9e> any ideas?
[12:25] <jrib> Ali_nz: just « cd » will do it
[12:25] <Ali_nz> and where is home? is it under .usr?
[12:26] <jrib> Ali_nz: /home
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: its /home/$USER
[12:26] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: apparently 7 has a ls function :)
[12:26] <thomson> my partition scheme: PRIMARY windows (1x NTFS), ubuntu (1x ext3 root, 1x swap file and 1x ext3 home) LOGICAL storage (1x NTFS for movies, music, etc.)
[12:26] <thomson> how does that sound?
[12:26] <or4n9e> the command I use is "rpm2cpio kiwi-desc-oemboot-3.01-136.1.i586.rpm | cpio -vid"
[12:26] <thomson> now i just have to work out sizes
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> thomson: sounds fine
[12:26] <Ali_nz> thanks again! night all
[12:26] <thomson> one thing... that storage partition formatted as NTFS
[12:27] <thomson> will i be able to access that from ubuntu?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g | thomson
[12:27] <C-S-B> thomson: yes
[12:27] <thomson> thanks
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> thomson: its a best effort
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> thomson: as ntfs is proprietary
[12:28] <C-S-B> thomson: i use it all the time, never had a trouble, just make sure the fs is clean.
[12:28] <thomson> it's just the 4GB limit on FAT32
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> thomson: as long as the files dont have weird permissions you will have access, if they do and ntfs-3g can't deal then you will only get read access
[12:28] <thomson> k
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> thomson: if you are only throwing user data on there then you don't have to worry
[12:29] <thomson> k
[12:29] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: what would you deem a weird permission?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: like acitive directory permissions for the local users that have been manually set on files and folders
[12:30] <tehbaut> I have win7 and osx installed already, if I add ubuntu to the list, will grub install and detect the others?
[12:30] <C-S-B> tehbaut: should do
[12:30] <tehbaut> ok
[12:31] <thomson> so windows needs to be the first partition on the drive and primary... right?
[12:31] <C-S-B> thomson: yes, windows is a funny old thing
[12:31] <thomson> lol
[12:31] <C-S-B> well, it doesnt have to be on the first partition
[12:31] <thomson> indeed it is
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> thomson: not necessarily, it makes the dual oot easier if you install windows first
[12:31] <triplc> Hi all
[12:31] <thomson> ok
[12:32] <echosystm> thomson all you need to worry about is making sure grub is the bootloader and not the windows one
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> thomson: just don't assign the whole disk to windows and have to resize afterwards, it makes no sense, you can keep your data safe if you use less of the disk when you install the windows boot
[12:32] <C-S-B> I always installed windows on the second partition as i like a big partition with windows and storage on at the end of my drive.
[12:32] <billy> here is what i use :D
[12:32] <billy> http://www.planetwatt.com/
[12:33] <C-S-B> Saying that, I want to rid of windows as a partition and just virtualise it, should i desire to touch it
[12:33] <triplc> How to get X /gdm back? I install xbmc xbmc-live and now I cannot have 'normal' gdm login as well as normal X started as default. even after apt-get remove xbmc-live. Please tell me how (i am using irssi in text mode) :-(
[12:33] <thomson> well... i'm not going the whole hog yet
[12:33] <C-S-B> echosystm: windows bootloader can boot linux
[12:33] <Nameless_au> how does one control synaptics in ubuntu?
[12:33] <triplc> (i am using Jaunty)
[12:34] <jrib> Nameless_au: the touchpad you mean?
[12:34] <C-S-B> Nameless_au: how do you mean?
[12:34] <Nameless_au> jrib: yes
[12:34] <jrib> !synaptics | Nameless_au
[12:34] <thomson> what would be best to use, grub or windows boot loader?
[12:34] <Nameless_au> jrib: ty
[12:34] <jrib> thomson: grub
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> thomson: NTLDR can't boot anything but windows, so you will need grub or lilo
[12:35] <C-S-B> thomson: grub hands down
[12:35] <thomson> grub it is
[12:35] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: I'm sure i read you could boot linux with win boot loader ...
[12:35] <thomson> i want to get this right the first time
[12:35] <thomson> lol
[12:35] <triplc> How to get X /gdm back? I install xbmc xbmc-live and now I cannot have 'normal' gdm login as well as normal X started as default. even after apt-get remove xbmc-live. Please tell me how (i am using irssi in text mode) :-( (i am using Jaunty) Pleeeeaaase
[12:36] <triplc> (sorry for repost question)
[12:36] <ohir> ActionParsnip: wrong info. Ntldr certainly can boot anything in chain. Just it's a bit cumbersome an microsoftish to configure it. That grub and its /boot/grub/menu.lst is way easier and known way to have dual boot quick.
[12:36] <Nameless_au> C-S-B: through apps such as easybcd it is, but one error and youre goners
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> ohir: true it is possible
[12:37] <aurilliance> hey Ubuntu-ers heres a question: I can see one of my 2 ntfs partitions from ubuntu, but not the other. Why would that be?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: do they both show up in the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[12:38] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip: all that does is ask for my password
[12:38] <frozsyn> Is there a way to install the graphical installer (the one of the live cd) on an existing ubuntu installation, and use it to install another ubuntu on the same computer ?
[12:38] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip: jokes XD yes the both show up
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: thats because you used sudo
[12:38] <aurilliance> :P
[12:38] <aurilliance> *y
[12:38] <mrincredible> Lol, "man gcc" on ubuntu 9.04 yields errors!! Right at the end! Somebody, report it, quick! :D
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: then you can mount them using ntfs-3g
[12:39] <thomson> so grub will automatically place a /boot partition at the start of the drive?
[12:39] <C-S-B> thomson: no, grub can be stored on the / partition
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: sudo mkdir /media/stuff1; sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/<partition name here> /media/stuff1 -o uid=1000
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: you can see which partition isnt mounted if you run    mount
[12:39] <thomson> ok
[12:39] <C-S-B> thomson: it just right grub to the first 512 bytes of your hdd
[12:40] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help ill try it. is there a reason why one of them won't show up under the 'computer' place in nautilus?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: no idea. i dont use automount
[12:40] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip: ok. Thanks again <3
[12:41] <gharz> guys, i've 1 folder and i want to create an .iso file out of that folder... can u suggest which software should i use in ubuntu? thanks.
[12:41] <yoques> Holas
[12:41] <kant> mksisfs ? if i recall
[12:41] <kant> mkisofs
[12:41] <gharz> !iso
[12:42] <deany> gharz, Application/CD DVD Creator
[12:42] <yoques> tengo un problema muy curioso: desde el live cd conecto via wifi, pero desde la instalación en el ordenador no me lo permite
[12:42] <deany> gharz, add the folder, write disc, choose iso
[12:42] <C-S-B> yoques: english?
[12:42] <deany> gharz, or theres mkisofs as kant said which is cli
[12:42] <yoques> C-S-B: i can understand
[12:43] <gharz> mkisofs... uhmmm...
[12:43] <gharz> ok thanks.
[12:43] <gharz> i'll try it
[12:44] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip: thanks a ton again, that did the trick...
[12:44] <yoques> i think the problem is i used the driver madwifi
[12:44] <yoques> and now i can't turn it "atrás"
[12:44] <thomson> just to make sure, swap file is the size of your ram, right?
[12:44] <thomson> i know i asked not long ago, but i forgot
[12:44] <thomson> lol
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: sweet
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: if you wish
[12:45] <UbuntuUser> i have 2 error messages when ubuntu loads up: 1. error when OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet 2. error when OAFIID:GNOME_IndicatoApplet loads
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: you and the drive is internal and to be mounted each time, you can add an entry to /etc/fstab
[12:45] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip: it is internal, Ill try that. thanks again for all the help lol
[12:46] <deany> using mkisofs with a folder with files/folders with long names, it uses shorter truncated names, even with the joilet option
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: np man, its the same data as the command
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: just rearranged
[12:47] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip: lol just realised why it wasn't showing up in 'computer' - there's already an fstab entry, I just didn't know where it had been mounted to. turns out it was in /windows
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: weird
[12:47] <justanothercoder> my ubuntu-server silently shut down, have no clue, i just found it powered down. i checked /var/log/messages and it said  (timestamp)  ubserver syslogd 1.5.0#5ubuntu3: restart
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: it will get automounted based on its label
[12:47] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip: heh yeh. How can I unmount the folder you helped me create?
[12:47] <coleys> aurilliance: sudo umount /path/to/folder/
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: sudo umount /media/stuff1; sudo rm -rf /media/stuff1
[12:48] <aurilliance> ty
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: as its no longer needed ;)
[12:48] <cobra-the-joker> Hey there guys .....i want to add the repos for ubuntu 9.04
[12:48] <justanothercoder> it also happened couple of times over the last few days, any ideas?
[12:48] <jrib> ActionParsnip: rmdir or && there just in case!
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> jrib its a folder so it will do the same, i get your point with && though
[12:49] <jrib> !repos | cobra-the-joker
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> cobra-the-joker: you wil lhave them if you have jaunty installed
[12:50] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: what is it you do when you are here helping?
[12:50] <cobra-the-joker> ActionParsnip , its jaunty
[12:50] <kaptengu> I want to echo chars in terminal using their octal values, can anyone give me an example how to do this?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> cobra-the-joker: then you have them already
[12:50] <cobra-the-joker> ActionParsnip , but i cant find the flash plugin in it ...aptitude search flash i assume ??
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: i monitor servers in florida from the UK while my team sleeps
[12:50] <tehbaut> what's the latest fs type for linux?
[12:50] <jrib> kaptengu: man echo ?
[12:50] <tehbaut> ext 3?
[12:51] <cobra-the-joker> ext4
[12:51] <faaf3ja> Guys, I'm trying to write an automount script that it rearranges what I'm mounting. I'm trying to get /export/backup/DATES/USERS to be mounted as /backup/USERS/DATES. Any ideas?
[12:51] <tehbaut> is that mac-accessible?
[12:51] <jrib> kaptengu: example: echo -e '\0123'
[12:51] <UnderSampled> I think I found a major bug, but I can't even begin to trouble shoot. Does someone want to help me?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> cobra-the-joker: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[12:51] <jrib> faaf3ja: why are you doing this?
[12:52] <kaptengu> jrib: thank you very much, I should have read the manual, I was missing out the \0
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> UnderSampled: ask the room, it will reply if it can
[12:52] <tehbaut> if I want to have my ubu partition accessible by mac and pc, would I be fine putting ubu on a fat32, or should I really just go with ext4?
[12:52] <Twister> i need help with a major problem i am facing
[12:52] <tehbaut> (and forget compatibility)
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: fat32 doesnt hold the permissions that linux needs, i'd use ext3
[12:52] <tehbaut> ah, ok
[12:52] <Twister> how do i get a dock on my desktop in ubuntu like this one?     http://i32.tinypic.com/2e1vtkh.jpg
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Twister
[12:53] <C-S-B> tehbaut: forget compatibility and have a shared partition for sharing
[12:53] <UnderSampled> The problem: any version of ubuntu with the name 9.04 boots onto a screen full of text (which I can painstakeingly copydown if needed), and the caps lock and scroll lock lights on my keyboard blink on and off
[12:53] <tehbaut> now how to I specify the root hdd from the prepare partitions? do I need to make a new part-table?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Twister: looks like avant-window-navigator to me
[12:53] <achilles> #OpenFOAM
[12:53] <tehbaut> root filesystem, I meant
[12:53] <faaf3ja> Twister: PM?
[12:54] <Twister> ActionParsnip : so how do i get it and set it up? never had one in linux and want one
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> UnderSampled: did you md5 check the iso you downloaded? did you verify the cd once booted to?
[12:54] <Twister> sure
[12:54] <UnderSampled> everything I have tried has ended this way. 8.10 works abolutly fine.
[12:54] <marc>
[12:54] <tehbaut> what's the standard mount point to use for a partition?
[12:54] <tec411> \
[12:54] <achilles> # OpenFOAM
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> !awn
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Twister: ^
[12:54] <tehbaut> tec411: / ?
[12:54] <tec411> lol
[12:54] <tehbaut> hey, it's on the menu
[12:54] <tec411> you spoted it
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: you can mount a partition anywhere you like (just not in /proc anywhere)
[12:55] <myk_robinson> using an APC battery backup and running apcaccess shows the current load % to be 0.0, although I have a computer and monitor hooked into the battery side. Any ideas?
[12:55] <tehbaut> thought everything got mounted in /media
[12:55] <jetienne> q. the multiverse repository disapeared ? or is it still the usual universe/multiverse stuff ?
[12:55] <UnderSampled> ActionParsnip: yes, and it checked out. But this happed with the net install usb version from unetbootin
[12:55] <marc> quit