[00:16] <axisys> failing to upgrade lucid .. this is what I tried so far
[00:17] <axisys> http://dpaste.com/0KW2Y2R.txt
[00:17] <axisys> any suggestion?
[00:37] <TJ-> axisys: failure to authenticate suggests you've not installed the updated keyrings - I *think* the archive keys rotated at some point after 10.04
[00:45] <axisys> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1513232 comment #3 seems to be resolving .. now seems to be upgrading
[00:49] <TJ-> yes, comment #11 confirms it's a key issue and gives a command to fetch the missing key
[03:17] <axisys> upgrade completed and now I am getting a key error on precise apt-get update
[03:17] <axisys> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:17] <axisys> so I guess that key from #11 is not correct anymore
[03:19] <axisys> http://dpaste.com/18KFVNX.txt
[03:20] <sarnold> axisys: check 'dmesg' output to see if you've had any IO errors
[03:21] <sarnold> axisys: try manually checking the files in /var/lib/apt/lists/
[03:21] <axisys> this fixed it
[03:21] <axisys> https://askubuntu.com/questions/198371/apt-encounters-errors-with-bad-gpg-keys
[03:21] <axisys> sarnold: right
[03:21] <axisys> needed a new lists dir
[03:22] <sarnold> heh, that's a bit .. blunt, but sounds like it worked :)
[03:23] <axisys> do-release-upgrade on precise saying no new release found
[03:25] <axisys> /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades says Prompt=lts .. so why not?
[03:28] <axisys> interesting.. probably some cache.. after a reboot, it is accepting the command
[03:29] <sarnold> axisys: do be sure to check dmesg to make sure you're not getting IO errors
[03:29] <sarnold> we get a lot of bug reports with dying drives in the logs :(
[03:43] <axisys> ok.. also I am running a vagrant image for testing out the process in my laptop.. preparing for upgrading few next week :-)
[03:44] <axisys> but good suggestion
[03:44] <axisys> i do run smartmon as a cronjob on this laptop, also..
[03:44] <sarnold> I love to hear that you're testing it first, always a decent idea :)
[03:44] <sarnold> then it's more likely the file was corrupted in transit. that happens.
[03:45] <axisys> or loose my job while playing with prod server.. hehe
[07:01] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:03] <cpaelzer> hi lordievader
[07:03] <cpaelzer> good morning to all as well
[07:03] <lordievader> Hey cpaelzer_, how are you doing?
[07:04] <cpaelzer> great, I hope you are fine as well today
[07:05] <lordievader> Jup doing okay here. Today I'm going to update my firewall rules :D
[07:05] <lordievader> In other words, break everything :P
[07:07] <hateball> \o/
[07:07] <cpaelzer> ready to see your disconnect timeout then :-)
[07:10] <lordievader> As I am using Matrix that should not happen ;) If it does I might have managed to break a server somewhere else on the campus :P
[11:26] <iot17> Hey guys, i'm doing a quick survey (10 questions) about "Internet of things". I would be very thankful if you could take some time and fill it in. Cheers! https://www.umfrageonline.ch/s/iot17
[13:18] <scottjl> done!
[13:31] <axisys> iot17: done
[13:31] <axisys> guess iot17 left
[14:06] <M3mphiZ> Is it normal that as root i can run 'mysql -u root -p' and even without entering the correct password i get in?
[14:37] <lordcirth_work> M3mphiZ, You are root anyway, what's the point?
[14:38] <lordcirth_work> M3mphiZ, I think if you try to connect to '<IP_ADDRESS>' rather than the default localhost it asks
[14:38] <lordcirth_work> Because <IP_ADDRESS> != localhost in mysql o_O
[14:39] <M3mphiZ> lordcirth_work: well its interesting, because after settings this: UPDATE mysql.user SET authentication_string=PASSWORD('<your-password>'), plugin='mysql_native_password' WHERE user='root'; I need the correct password.
[14:59] <necrophcodr> Is it possible to configure Apache to set a header explicitly?
[15:00] <necrophcodr> This is very wrong, but due to infrastructure and horrible code, I need to set the HTTPS header without enabling HTTPS or SSL
[15:00] <necrophcodr> Is that even possible?
[15:03] <lordcirth_work> necrophcodr, you have a reverse proxy adding TLS but not the header?
[15:04] <necrophcodr> lordcirth_work, oh no, it's much worse. I have Apache2 proxying from TLS to varnish, which then forwards to non-TLS port 80
[15:05] <necrophcodr> varnish removes the HTTPS header because it's not running with certificates, and our setup wouldn't really support that either way.
[15:05] <sdeziel> necrophcodr: RequestHeader set X-Forwarded-Proto "https"
[15:06] <necrophcodr> sdeziel, i have not actually tried this, i'll give it a shot
[15:06] <necrophcodr> sdeziel, but that won't actually set the HTTPS header, will it? like at any point in the stack?
[15:06] <lordcirth_work> necrophcodr, can't you configure varnish to set the header again?
[15:06] <lordcirth_work> Or, you know, fix the whole setup
[15:07] <sdeziel> necrophcodr: this will create the defacto standard header named X-Forwarded-Proto
[15:07] <necrophcodr> lordcirth_work, i'm not sure, but varnish forwards back to apache on port 80 (this is crazy), and apache might remove the https header too when not received on port 80.
[15:07] <necrophcodr> lordcirth_work, i can't fix the whole setup. there's too many servers running this kind of setup, and it's a LOT of moving integrated parts.
[15:07] <necrophcodr> if it was feasible to change, i would
[15:08] <lordcirth_work> Sucks.  It doesn't sound very feasible to maintain either
[15:08] <necrophcodr> i'm not asking because i find it fun, i'm asking because it's the only feasible solution i've come up with
[15:08] <necrophcodr> it is feasible to maintain, since there's not much maintenance.
[15:08] <lordcirth_work> How did it get set up that way?
[15:08] <necrophcodr> doesn't matter
[15:08] <necrophcodr> the problem is that we're running the infrastructure with apache2, and now need to also integrate varnish
[15:09] <necrophcodr> and we're not setting apache2 vhosts up ourselves, that's managed by other systems
[15:09] <necrophcodr> but we can modify the apache2 vhost templates, and the actual vhosts
[15:09] <necrophcodr> since this is also for shared hosting, there's a lot of stuff that needs to fit together
[15:10] <sdeziel> necrophcodr: if you control the backends' vhost templates, why not set the header in there?
[15:10] <necrophcodr> sdeziel, the backend is apache
[15:10] <necrophcodr> i'm talking about apache vhost templates
[15:11] <sdeziel> I understood as much
[15:11] <necrophcodr> that's where i'd like to set the header
[15:11] <necrophcodr> but it needs to be the HTTPS header
[15:14] <sdeziel> necrophcodr: I still think that RequestHeader is what you want
[15:14] <sdeziel> https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_headers.html
[15:16] <necrophcodr> sdeziel, i'll give it another go
[15:23] <necrophcodr> sdeziel, if i do RequestHeader set HTTPS "on" then it isn't set
[15:33] <necrophcodr> or rather, Apache will set the HTTP_HTTPS header to "on"
[15:33] <necrophcodr> RequestHeader modifieds HTTP_* headers
[15:33] <necrophcodr> not all headers
[15:43] <sdeziel> necrophcodr: are you saying that Apache will add the prefix "HTTP_" to the header name you added?
[15:43] <necrophcodr> sdeziel, yes
[15:45] <sdeziel> necrophcodr: I've never seen that behaviour and doubt it's Apache's doing
[15:47] <necrophcodr> I'm forwarding it to a PHP fcgid script that simply var_dumps $_SERVER
[15:47] <necrophcodr> it does nothing else at all
[15:48] <sdeziel> https://httpd.apache.org/mod_fcgid/mod/mod_fcgid.html#fcgidpassheader ?
[15:49] <sdeziel> at this point, it's no longer a HTTP header but a env variable with the prefix HTTP_$headername
[15:50] <necrophcodr> so now it still has the prefix HTTP
[15:50] <necrophcodr> but i still need to set the HTTPS header
[15:51] <necrophcodr> oh wait
[15:51] <necrophcodr> no it may actually work
[15:52] <necrophcodr> sdeziel, thanks, that appears to work!
[15:52] <sdeziel> necrophcodr: great, np


[02:15] <tonyyarusso> mako: ping
[08:53] <zippersmith> z
[11:19] <kybuz> hiya all
[11:19] <kybuz> can anyone perhaps help me out with a script which  i want to edit


[02:36] <_hc> jtaylor: I forget, did you say you'd SRU the patch from 0.6.3-6 to the quantal package?
[02:37] <_hc> or should I do that?
[16:52] <cleeming[foxx]> hi all.. so after fighting with debian packaging for a while, I figured that id give ubuntu another try as a desktop.. the first thing that really gets me is that there isnt a simple thing like being able to edit the font sizes out of the box.. i had to spend 5 minutes googling, then i had to install gnome-tweak-tool.. this sort of thing used to just work out of the box. why has this been
[16:52] <cleeming[foxx]> changed?
[16:53] <cleeming[foxx]> and also, what is with this big side bar on the left hand side? and why when im searching for the word "terminal" do i get shown "terminal 4 - terminal 4" @ £7.92
[16:53] <cleeming[foxx]> it seems a million miles away from what ubuntu used to be 4 years ago :X
[16:54] <TheLordOfTime> cleeming[foxx]:  the bar at the left is called "Unity"
[16:55] <TheLordOfTime> when you search for the word "terminal" the shopping lens i think is picking it up as well.
[16:55] <cleeming[foxx]> i thought unity was that cube thing, the unity3d multi desktop stuff
[16:55] <cleeming[foxx]> ah, i just found this; https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks
[16:55] <TheLordOfTime> cleeming[foxx]:  http://unity.ubuntu.com/
[16:56] <TheLordOfTime> cleeming[foxx]:  you can disable the online search stuff though
[16:56] <cleeming[foxx]> ahhh, i hadnt seen the unity url before.. ill have a read now, ty
[16:56] <TheLordOfTime> http://askubuntu.com/questions/192269/how-can-i-remove-amazon-search-results-from-the-dash
[16:56] <TheLordOfTime> (sorry about dumping this in -motu, MOTUs.)
[16:56] <cleeming[foxx]> should i be using a diff channel to talk about this sort of thing?
[16:57] <cleeming[foxx]> if so my apologies, id used ubuntu-motu before for packaging problems, and everyone was very helpful, so figured it would be the best place to ask
[16:57] <TheLordOfTime> the questions you just asked weren't packaging problems though
[16:57]  * TheLordOfTime shurgs
[16:58] <TheLordOfTime> i'm not a MOTU, i'm just a bugs triager and part-time packager :P
[16:58] <cleeming[foxx]> got it
[16:58] <cleeming[foxx]> well, i figured if i asked in #ubuntu, i wouldnt get any quality of response
[16:59] <TheLordOfTime> i ask my packaging questions here,  and occasionally poke here for getting a sponsor for the universe packages i submit debdiffs for when the bug is "High" priority (unless i'm told otherwise)
[17:01] <cleeming[foxx]> this might sound like an absolutely stupid question but... would it be considered normal if i was to replace the unity window manager? i.e. is that what most people do?
[17:02] <jtaylor> I wouldn't say most, but many do
[17:02] <TheLordOfTime> i didn't
[17:02] <TheLordOfTime> but for me it's irrelevant:
[17:03] <TheLordOfTime> most of what I do is command line anyways
[17:03] <cleeming[foxx]> well exactly, i only wanted ubuntu as a simple terminal window manager.. was considering putting in openbox instead
[17:03] <jtaylor> there is lubuntu
[17:03] <cleeming[foxx]> *googles*
[17:03] <jtaylor> I think it uses openbox or fluxbox
[17:03] <cleeming[foxx]> oh nice
[17:04] <cleeming[foxx]> that looks quite clean.. is it kept as up to date as ubuntu?
[17:04] <jtaylor> so far I  know its jsut ubuntu with different default
[17:04] <cleeming[foxx]> fluxbox ah yeah i used that too
[17:04] <jtaylor> packages should be the same
[17:04] <cleeming[foxx]> nice, thanks man, ill give that a try.. sorry for flooding -motu with user questions, will refrain from it in future!
[17:08]  * cleeming[foxx] just found where i should have asked these questions.. #ubuntu-offtopic !


[07:14] <RikMills> mypaint fixed in debian, so synced and in queue
[15:53] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: \o/


[00:08] <ianorlin> sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[00:08] <ianorlin> is the one for the browser
[00:10] <henryC> thanks.  I had just went and resorted to the software center though, and I have Chromium working at least.  I was thinking running lubuntu should not be too much different than the kubuntu I'm used to, just lighter, faster, fewer bells and whistles.  Is that mostly true?
[00:11] <henryC> I only need to run basic essential web dev tools and such.
[00:12] <ianorlin> yes pretty much but some applicatinos are different
[00:13] <henryC> ok.  The only KDE stuff I'm really used to is plasma-desktop and konsole, that I can think of.
[12:58] <lorenzo> hi! is there a way to install legacy nvidia drivers in lubuntu?
[13:02] <Unit193> How old?
[13:02] <Unit193> I take it Additional Drivers didn't find it?
[13:04] <lorenzo> yeah
[13:04] <lorenzo> it's a MX400
[13:06] <Unit193> I think everything that's still maintained is in the repo (104), so any older than that might not work as the package likely would no longer be compatible with the kernel, but could take a shot at -94.
[13:07] <lorenzo> hmm
[13:07] <lorenzo> well maybe nouveau is good enough
[13:07] <lorenzo> but I'm getting some odd artifacts
[13:07] <lorenzo> e.g. in the menus the ">" icon is sometimes missing
[13:07] <lorenzo> as well as the checked icon in the software center
[13:07] <lorenzo> but it's probably unrelated
[16:46] <Faisal> hi
[17:00] <parlabane_> hello Faisal
[17:00] <Faisal> parlabane_: hi
[19:01] <theblindowl> hello. lubuntu freezes alot on my pc
[19:01] <theblindowl> what should i do?
[19:01] <theblindowl> also i get many errors
[19:11] <wxl> theblindowl: what errors?
[19:11] <holstein> theblindowl: i dont.. so, i would look at what your specific case has that my case doenst
[19:12] <wxl> holstein: or doesn't have
[19:12] <holstein> theblindowl: i would try the live CD, see if "errors" happen with the live CD
[19:12] <holstein> wxl: yup :)
[19:12] <wxl> theblindowl: memory might be a good place to start looking, as well as hard drive space
[19:12] <theblindowl> i dont know there are many errors specially when running Chromium browser.or other stuff
[19:12] <theblindowl> one just appeared
[19:12] <holstein> theblindowl: lack of flash support is not an error
[19:13] <holstein> theblindowl: is that the issue? some flash website not working? or complainging?
[19:13] <wxl> theblindowl: it's hard to help when we don't know the problem. those errors are the signal to the issue.
[19:15] <theblindowl> It just happened. it says ; The application X has closed unexpectedly
[19:15] <theblindowl> i'm tired of this
[19:15] <theblindowl> everyday lots of this errors are happening to me
[19:15] <theblindowl> even for software updater.
[19:15] <wxl> again, do you have the same problems using the live cd?
[19:15] <theblindowl> no i have it installed
[19:16] <theblindowl> i dont know what hardware i'm using. i'm noob. the PC is about 7-8 years old i think
[19:16] <holstein> theblindowl: when using the live CD, do you have the same issues
[19:16] <holstein> theblindowl: please test with the live CD, and confirm
[19:16] <holstein> theblindowl: test the hardware.. test the memory as wxl suggests.. then, the hard drive
[19:17] <theblindowl> how can i find which hardware i have?
[19:17] <wxl> theblindowl: that and see how much memory you have and how much hard drive space
[19:17] <theblindowl> i have 200gb harddisk and 1gb ddr3 memory but i have no idea about my CPU and graphic card
[19:17] <theblindowl> sorry i meant ddr2 memory
[19:17] <wxl> how much space do you have on that hard drive?
[19:18] <theblindowl> i just have lubuntu installed. no other os
[19:18] <wxl> that doesn't answer the question
[19:18] <wxl> you could have 190gb of music
[19:18] <theblindowl> is there a command or something so i can find out about that?
[19:18] <wxl> df -h
[19:19] <wxl> !paste | theblindowl
[19:19] <holstein> theblindowl: you can use the file manager
[19:19] <wxl> that too
[19:20] <theblindowl> http://susepaste.org/view/raw/f322112f
[19:21] <wxl> ok so you have plenty of hard drive space
[19:21] <wxl> x shutting down is odd
[19:21] <wxl> try this:
[19:21] <wxl> grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:22] <theblindowl> I have no idea which cpu and graphic card i'm using. i know the cpu is AMD but dont know which
[19:22] <holstein> theblindowl: you can search around, or just ask here a question
[19:22] <holstein> theblindowl: i know, i usually do all of this *before* isntall from a live CD, so im not surprised
[19:23] <holstein> if i get a "new" machine (new to me, that i have never used).. i test the ram, then the hard drive.. then any other hardware i can
[19:23] <holstein> i run a live CD (or a few live CD's, depending on what im trying to learn) and test the hardware support
[19:23] <theblindowl> http://susepaste.org/view/raw/e2ed897b
[19:24] <holstein> i use "lspci" and/or "lsusb".. or "aplay -l" or whatever i need in a terminal to see what the hardware is
[19:24] <theblindowl> I had a good laptop which i used opensuse and windows 7 on it but it was stolen and now i just started using my old computer
[19:24] <holstein> then, if its been sitting around, any number of things coul be wrong
[19:24] <theblindowl> so i dont know which os is better on this old hardware. lubuntu seems good but maybe its heavy on such hardware
[19:25] <holstein> theblindowl: "better" is a matter of opinion and use case
[19:25] <wxl> lubuntu is pretty darn light
[19:25] <wxl> there are few other os's that will make any good use out of 1gb of memory
[19:25] <holstein> lubuntu is one of the lightest that is still a "traditional" linux distro.. with package management, and access to ubuntu repositories
[19:26] <wxl> you should really use a live cd like you're using the computer now and see if there are issues. if there are not, you know the problem is your installation. you can probably just reinstall. if there are still the same issues, then it's a hardware issue that will require some sleuthing.
[19:26] <theblindowl> Yeah. this pc supports windows XP good but i dont have drivers for it and i dont know the hardware
[19:26] <wxl> you don't want xp
[19:26] <wxl> well, you might
[19:26] <holstein> theblindowl: windows support is irrelevant
[19:26] <wxl> if you want lots of viruses
[19:27] <theblindowl> Also i have another question. lubuntu being light due to the LXDE desktop? is that means that any other distro using such vm or DE will be lightweight too?
[19:28] <holstein> theblindowl: LXDE is what it is
[19:28] <holstein> theblindowl: any distro using lxde will be using lxde
[19:29] <holstein> http://lxde.org/
[19:35] <theblindowl> I'm sending error reports everyday so developers can fix this issue. can you guys find out which model of CPU and Graphics and Monitor resolution i have?
[19:35] <theblindowl> using commands etc
[19:54] <qwaszx> hello
[21:04] <f0gwl> salut a tous
[21:05] <f0gwl> je viens d installer lubuntu sur 1 vieux pc portable
[21:05] <f0gwl> qui a 1.4 ghz et 512 de ram ouaaaaaaaa de la bombe
[21:05] <f0gwl> merci qui ? bin merci tux nikel
[21:06] <f0gwl> pour ma part c est kubuntu apres 1 passage sur opensuse mandriva mageia mint,ubuntu  je suis sous kubuntu et linuxiens depuis 7 ans
[21:10] <zleap> bonjour,
[21:10] <zleap> je suis anglais
[21:11] <zleap> je comprende,  petit francais
[21:12] <Parlabane> translated: f0gwl is happy with lubuntu a lot : )
[21:13] <zleap> thanks :)
[21:15] <f0gwl> merci zleap moi francais only speak french very bad speak english here sorry my friend
[21:15] <zleap> no problem
[21:15] <f0gwl> godd night my friend and good manip on linux
[21:15] <zleap> i got that you have been using linux for 7 years
[21:16] <zleap> f0gwl, you are welcome in here anytime, i am sure we can help
[21:16] <Parlabane> 6.5 years more than me.
[21:16] <f0gwl> ok welcome to the linux for me on linux 7 years
[21:17] <zleap> i first used linux in about 1994,  kernel 1.0.9 from a magazine cover disk,  been a few milestones since then
[21:17] <f0gwl> good night all friend linuxiens many thanks
[21:17] <zleap> nite
[21:18] <Parlabane> good night f0gwl . bonne nuit
[21:18] <zleap> and you're welcome mon amni
[21:18] <zleap> ah bonne nuit :)
[21:18] <zleap> ami
[21:18] <f0gwl> many thanks
[21:21] <Parlabane> but how was kernel 1.0.9?
[21:21] <zleap> pretty good
[21:21] <zleap> no cd rom support, that came in about 2.0.0 or 2.0.30 properly
[21:21] <zleap> so had to install from floppy,
[21:21] <Parlabane> were there graphic environemts in those days ?
[21:21] <zleap> yeah
[21:21] <zleap> no kde or gnome though
[21:21] <zleap> windowmaker i think
[21:21] <Parlabane> like the dos 5.22 shell
[21:22] <zleap> well it was stil the linux bash shell
[21:22] <Parlabane> or more win 3.11 looking
[21:22] <zleap> http://windowmaker.org/
[21:23] <zleap> yeah to make a floppy it was rawrite file.img A: in dos so make up b1 - 3 which was like the base system
[21:23] <zleap> then for otehr stuff you had a for apps, g for games,  but you had to make all the disks up, manually by copying images over (like you do now but with dd)
[21:24] <Parlabane> wow
[21:24] <zleap> it was still a full unix system
[21:24] <zleap> as linux comes from unix
[21:24] <Parlabane> yes
[21:24] <zleap> well minix which is unix like system
[21:26] <zleap> i actually have the cd here
[21:30] <zleap> i did manage to touch type sudo apt-get install something earlier
[21:30] <zleap> in fact i can two finger touch type quite fast
[21:30] <Parlabane> ok
[21:31] <zleap> btw when is the release date for 14.04 of lubuntu
[21:32] <zleap> chkrootkit seems to be giving me an error saying a rootkit is instaled, rkhunter says otherwise
[21:32] <zleap> but googling suggests it could be a false positive
[21:40] <theblindowl> how to make lubuntu faster? is there anyway to tweak?
[21:44] <zleap> you could stop things like chromium / chrome auto loading and other non essential services
[21:57] <phillw> zleap: lubuntu 14.04 will be released on the same date as all of 14,04 LTS editions :)
[21:57] <zleap> ok
[21:57] <zleap> cool 14th april i think i just looked
[21:58] <phillw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[21:58] <zleap> kinda concerend about this suckkit root kit thing, but i have installed so much on this system that i need to re-do it,  evenif I put 13.10 on at some point
[21:59] <phillw> I'm looking at putting back alpha lubuntu 14.04 onto my machine... latest kernel is borked, firefox is borked..... Such are the joys of doing testing :D
[22:00] <zleap> yeah
[22:00] <zleap> well if I dual boot what I have, i can perhaps replace what I am using now with something I can use for testing
[22:01] <zleap> i can either dual boot, or back up all of 64gb of data and start over
[22:01] <zleap> need to remember to back up .gnupg and .ssh
[22:01] <zleap> and i think .thunderbird so it can restore my mail and tb settings to what I have now


[00:23] <jono> jose, hey
[00:24] <jose> jono: hey, how's it goint?
[00:24] <jose> going*
[00:24] <jono> jose, greag!
[00:24] <jono> hangout?
[00:26] <jose> sure, give me a sec
[00:26] <jono> jose, just throw me a link and then I will join
[00:29] <jono> jose, just paste me the link
[00:29] <jono> and I will join
[01:53] <nigelb> daker: that was a pretty interesting read!
[01:55] <nigelb> erm, wtach :)
[01:55] <nigelb> I need coffee.
[06:33] <dholbach> good morning
[06:39] <trinikrono> good mornings
[07:28] <philipballew> dholbach, on early tonight (today) I see
[07:28] <dholbach> hi philipballew
[07:29] <dholbach> yep, I'm still on IST it seems :)
[07:29] <philipballew> dholbach, I was glad to see that you had a great time. Memories that will  never fade.
[07:29] <dholbach> yeah, it was great :)
[07:31] <elfy> morning dholbach philipballew
[07:31] <dholbach> hi elfy
[07:31] <elfy> dholbach: you been somewhere good?
[07:31] <dholbach> yep, India :)
[07:31] <elfy> oh nice :)
[07:31] <philipballew> elfy, top of the morning to you.
[07:32] <elfy> hi
[07:52] <elfy> dholbach: so - where about's in India - or was it a roving about thing?
[07:52] <dholbach> I went to Bangalore, Mysore, Goa and Mumbai
[07:53] <elfy> sounds great :)
[07:54] <elfy> I always have trouble remembering Mumbai - it was still Bombay when I went to school - I forget Sri Lanka as well - that was still Ceylon ...
[18:37] <bkerensa> jcastro: want a $2000 Google Compute Credit?
[18:37] <bkerensa> :D
[18:37] <jcastro> I'm good, thanks!
[18:37] <bkerensa> kk
[18:38] <pleia2> poor google compute, can't give that stuff away :)
[18:50] <mhall119> lol
[21:41] <marcoceppi> popey: you around?
[21:44] <popey> marcoceppi: ya


[09:00] <DanChapman> Good Morning all :-)
[09:02] <phillw> morning? ... OMG... vacuuming has taken longer than expected!
[09:03] <phillw> yikes... over an hour and a half hour for one room...
[09:04]  * Noskcaj thinks phillw  deserves an official title of "Worst sleep schedule in F/OSS"
[09:05] <knome> by far, nope :P
[09:09] <phillw>  Noskcaj mother wanted all the furniture out of said room... 1 chair, one setee, two tables, and the entire satellite / TV system with screen. Mission accomplished and all the little areas vacuumed. I'd make some one a good wife :P
[09:09] <Noskcaj> lol
[09:09] <Noskcaj> knome, therefore, let us hold a competition for it
[09:10]  * Noskcaj resumes planning his previous bad idea
[09:53] <smartboyhw> Hello DanChapman
[09:54] <DanChapman> smartboyhw phillw  hey :-)
[09:55]  * smartboyhw does not Noskcaj's "bad idea" is quite suitable for the modern age
[09:56] <phillw> smartboyhw: he can have as many as he wishes... As long as he sorts out & replies to my email about the default apps in ubuntu :D
[09:57] <smartboyhw> phillw, default apps?:D
[10:00] <phillw> smartboyhw: yup, he needs to complete the spreadsheet so that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/AutopilotTesting can go live :)
[10:00] <smartboyhw> phillw, :O
[10:01] <smartboyhw> OMG
[10:03] <phillw> smartboyhw: the table as is, was a copy over from xubuntu, the new one has done the rounds of xu and lu. it now awaits balloons to complete it and then I can set the page up fully so that people like DanChapman can see where the teams are up to on auto pilot testing. It's a one stop shop for where we are up to.
[10:04] <smartboyhw> phillw, quite good
[10:04] <smartboyhw> But I'm not understanding the table-.-
[10:07] <phillw> smartboyhw: myself and balloons did discuss such a table for manual testing (applications) etc. On the left hand column is a list of applicatons that various teams use, across each row it will state which flavours use them and the last two columns give a status of if there is an autopilot test case in development or has been passed as working.
[10:07] <smartboyhw> phillw, OK
[10:08] <knome> the table is half-broken though
[10:08] <knome> i suppose i'll go and fix it.
[10:10] <phillw> knome: the table is not even nearly ready. Do not spend time editing it until I have the input back from balloons for ubuntu apps. The spread sheet is 'private' for the time being. Once balloons has filled in the blanks, I'll set the table up. Do not waste time on a WiP :D
[10:10] <knome> but there's no way to fill it if it's broken
[10:11] <phillw> knome: you do not have a copy of the spreadsheet. At present it is myself, elfy & balloons,
[10:11] <knome> aha.
[10:11] <knome> then send it to me ;)
[10:12]  * smartboyhw request phillw to send it to him so he can fill in the Studio parts
[10:12] <knome> i'm not fixing the data. i'm only fixing the wiki markup.
[10:12] <smartboyhw> phillw, and I know the Kylin team quite well too, so I might fill in the Kylin parts as well
[10:13] <phillw> Can every one please calm down? lu and Xu have their apps listed, I am simply awaiting balloons to update it for ub and then the page will go 'live'.
[10:13] <knome> phillw, you'll have to fix the markup anyway, but as you wish
[10:13] <phillw> At which point, I expect all the flavours to crawl over it like a bad rash :)
[10:14] <smartboyhw> phillw, heh
[10:16] <phillw> knome: after the heading, nothing is completed. I intend to do one massive edit to put in all that is on the WiP spreadsheet and then ask the flavours to update it. with Lu, Xu and Ub all on the spread sheet, we hope that most teams will find updating it to their own flavours will not be a massive task.
[10:16] <knome> phillw, i'm not talking about the content.
[10:17] <smartboyhw> phillw, well, it's easy for us, as we copy from Xubuntu:P
[10:17] <phillw> knome: ??
[10:18] <knome> phillw, i'll let you do it.
[10:20] <phillw> smartboyhw: knome xu is already on the spread sheet. studio will need to add their specific things. I can either pass the spread sheet around ad-infintum or we go for the auto pilot cases that exist and each team will know what is, and is not, available...
[10:20] <smartboyhw> phillw, OK
[10:21] <knome> phillw, it's not the content i'm worried about. i know we're fine regarding that.
[10:21] <knome> phillw, but i'll let you work on the project and keep all the threads in your hands as you so wish.
[10:23] <phillw> knome: as it is still a WiP. please do feel free to speak! One of the 1st things to be dropped was "web browser", it is replaced with Chromium and Firefox. There is no test case for 'web browser', this is why the spread sheet has done the rounds :D
[10:25] <phillw> Gee, I never knew there was that much interest in the Auto Pilot test cases. DanChapman we may yet get people interested :)
[10:25] <smartboyhw> phillw, yeah:P
[10:33] <DanChapman> phillw: yeah its great to see they are wanted across flavours :-) and they will soon be easier to write once the gtk emulator is finished :-)
[11:31] <jamespage> jibel, do we run DEP-8 tests for 12.04?
[11:31] <jamespage> I'm doing a point release upgrade for openvswitch and was considering introducing the DEP-8 tests from Saucy?Raring
[11:32] <jibel> jamespage, we don't
[11:34] <jamespage> jibel, OK - can I run them locally to validate?
[11:36] <jibel> jamespage, sure, all the tools are in the lab too if you want me to run something, but automated tests have been disabled
[11:36] <jibel> for Precise that is
[11:45] <jamespage> jibel, ack - thanks
[12:02]  * smartboyhw is zsyncing the images ready for Beta 1 testing
[12:02] <smartboyhw> balloons, whenever you wake up, ping
[12:18] <jamespage> jibel, any chance I can jump onto a failed squid3/amd64 autopkgtest in the lab? I can't reproduce locally (I've tried repeatedly!)
[13:05] <jibel> jamespage, you can start a test, identify on which slave it is running from jenkins UI, then on that slave ps aux|grep squid3 to find the ssh port it is using and ssh to this port as ubuntu
[13:06] <jibel> jamespage, or use run-adt-test on a slave in 1ss
[13:07] <jibel> with -k so the VM is not deleted after the run
[14:25] <smartboyhw> Hello SergioMeneses
[14:25] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, morning!
[14:59] <smartboyhw> Ah, I forgotten balloons will not be here, it's Labour Day-.-
[14:59] <smartboyhw> (In USA)
[14:59] <smartboyhw> Hello chilicuil
[14:59] <chilicuil> hi smartboyhw, good morning =)!
[15:05] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, a boring monday as always here
[15:09] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, LOL
[18:31] <phillw> balloons: pimg
[18:38] <DanChapman> phillw: Its a public holiday in america today, so don't think balloons will be about :-)
[18:41] <phillw> having laney decide on a respin tomorrow is not really helpful... c'ets la vie (as my boss would say)
[18:41] <phillw> **c'est la vie**
[18:58] <Patrickdk_> silly americans :)


[02:19] <akk> Anyone know how to fix "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages" on an apt-get install?
[02:19] <akk> I'm trying to install a KDE package, and it says I've held a bunch of KDE packages that I've never installed at all.
[02:20] <bkerensa> akk:  sudo apt-get install -f
[02:20] <bkerensa> ?
[02:22] <akk> Adding a -f gives the same error message.
[02:25] <akk> and apt-get -f install without the package name gives nothing.
[02:26] <akk> Could it be a pinning issue? I added pinning yesterday because I needed 3 packages from neuro-debian, but I *think* I set things up so that only those packages can come from there.
[02:26] <akk> And aptitude show calligra is showing an ubuntu version, not a neuro-debian one.
[02:29] <geofft> akk: Can you pastebin the output? Or is it just that one error?
[02:29] <akk> No, it's a long list. I'll pastebin.
[02:31] <akk> The error message: http://pastebin.com/48y5GTEy
[02:31] <darthrobot> Title: [# apt-get install -f calligra Reading package lists... Done Building dependenc - Pastebin.com]
[02:32] <akk> And in case I messed something up with improper pinning, here's my /etc/apt/preferences: http://pastebin.com/EXPXWNT5
[02:32] <darthrobot> Title: [Package: * Pin: release a=precise-security Pin-Priority: 950 Package: * Pi - Pastebin.com]
[02:32] <geofft> ah. apt-get's error messages suck. I would perhaps try installing each dependency and see what error you get.
[02:33] <akk> Looking at the dependency list, I'm suspecting that I probably don't want this package anyway.
[02:33] <akk> Tried to install it on a different machine and it predicted something like a 150Mb download.
[02:34] <akk> But I'd still like to know what the error means and whether I messed up my pins.
[02:35]  * akk doesn't understand pinning, misses the old simple APT::Default-Release option
[02:51] <geofft> your pins don't look wrong to me
[02:53] <akk> Thanks, that's good to know.
[02:53] <akk> I can live without Calligra -- maybe it's just a broken package.
[02:54] <akk> I'm investigating (not super heavyweight) ways of editing text and graphics in the same document.
[02:54] <akk> Thought maybe calligra could, but the requirements make me doubt the "not super heavyweight" part anyway.
[17:29] <nhaines> pleia2: I'm not sure if that support request on the ML was sweet or creepy.  :)
[17:31] <pleia2> nhaines: you should see the emails he's sent to me directly :\
[17:32] <pleia2> I believe he is trying to be nice though
[17:33] <pleia2> what girl doesn't like being told that some guy on the internet "likes their pictures"?
[17:55]  * kdub discovers the magical land of debian packages
[18:37] <nhaines> pleia2: oh, direct emails doesn't sound so great.  :(  But hooray for benefit of the doubt!
[18:38] <nhaines> My policy was always that Ubuntu Hour tech support was free and outside of that people pay my full stranger tech support rate.  :P
[18:41] <pleia2> he emailed the list because I told him to ;)
[18:42] <pleia2> "I don't have time for one-on-one support requests right now, please email...
[18:42] <pleia2> (I am shipping him a 12.10 disk though)


[00:29] <elk> hi
[00:32] <elk> how can control timing of process?
[05:33] <ash__> exit
[19:42] <Guest2323> hey guys im trying to get ubuntu studio and im getting a boot error something about cannot mount /dev/sda dev swquashfs
[19:42] <Guest2323> install*
[19:42] <Guest2323> along side win8.1
[19:46] <Guest2323> anyone here?
[19:46] <Guest2323> live usb wont boot at all
[23:12] <doohdaah> in ubuntustudio 14.10 getting a new soundcard still doesnt make sound on Audio Production devices. Where to start trouble shooting?
[23:18] <doohdaah2> ubuntustudio 14.10 ... having problems with Audio Production software sound output. where to start troubleshooting
[23:34] <OvenWerks> doohdaah2: are you running jackd?
[23:36] <OvenWerks> doohdaah2: on some audio cards you have to make sure the levels are up. Pulse does this sort of auto on many internal cards but not some of the pro/semipro cards like the ice1712 based cards