[04:03] <Chat0804>  :|
[09:03] <tdr112> morning
[09:04] <czajkowski> tdr112: howdy doody
[09:18] <slashtom> good morning
[09:18] <slashtom> when's your dentist appointment?
[09:20] <czajkowski> 1
[09:20] <moylan> hope it goes quickly and painlessly.
[09:21] <czajkowski> me too
[09:23] <slashtom> aye, good luck
[09:24] <slashtom> although in aldershot you're probably all expected to be as 'ard as nails ;)
[09:25] <czajkowski> 00:06 <moonpie> ya still interested in doing the UL barcamp?
[09:25] <czajkowski> 00:07 <moonpie> Weekend of 30th April/1st May (after natty release)?
[09:27] <slashtom> czajkowski: has ebel told you that we won't be around for limerick barcamp and ubuntu release
[09:27]  * slashtom takes ebel a latte
[09:27] <czajkowski> oh off anywhere nice ?
[09:27] <moylan> slashtom: a shot of whiskey and a pliers?
[09:27] <ebel> Australia!
[09:27] <czajkowski> oh nice
[09:27] <czajkowski> :)
[09:27] <ebel> 3 weeks start of may
[09:27] <czajkowski> ye biking over there?
[09:28] <ebel> Perhaps. looking into it
[09:28] <slashtom> ebel: 3 weeks from easter saturday
[09:28] <ebel> Not going to drive to AU, we'll do that some day
[09:28] <ebel> we need to sort out something for the loco cds.
[09:29] <ebel> (this is on the agenda for tonight's meeting)
[09:29] <czajkowski> nods
[09:29] <czajkowski> get them shipped to someone else?
[09:30] <slashtom> it would be an interesting route to ride to AU
[09:31]  * slashtom sees email from ILUG, PoTD tonight - nice short notice
[09:44] <ebel> yeah that's what we're thinking
[09:47] <slashtom> announced on irc.linux.ie but not be email until late last night
[09:47] <slashtom> s/be/by/
[11:29] <airurando> morning all
[11:31] <ebel> yo yo
[11:40] <ebel> http://votomatic.ie see which party policies you agree with
[11:43] <ShaneM> ebel: I got Labour....
[11:44] <ebel> I got Green (with FF runner up)
[11:44]  * ebel is right wing economically but very left wing socially
[11:44] <ebel> i.e. I'm voting based on social policy, not economic policy
[11:45] <ShaneM> Ah ok.
[11:45] <ebel> also FG want to charge you TV licence fee for your computer http://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/fmejw/fine_gael_want_to_charge_you_a_tv_licence_fee_for/
[11:46] <ShaneM> Insane
[11:46] <ebel> As we see from this election, FG seem to be a bit clueless when it comes to computers and internet
[11:47]  * slashtom should be voting Labour, Sinn Féin, Green, Fianna Faíl, Fine Gael in that order
[11:48] <ShaneM> Yeah it's kind of shocking that FG might win
[11:48] <ShaneM> FF/FG same shit IMO.
[11:50] <slashtom> oh noes, ebel 2nd preference Fianna Faíl!
[11:50] <ebel> slashtom: don't worry, i'm not voting FF
[11:50] <slashtom> at least i got a viable party for my best fit :P
[11:51] <ShaneM> It's shocking the response all the parties have on abortion.
[11:52] <ebel> yes ireland is an odd on on abortion
[11:52] <ShaneM> Going to lunch
[11:53] <ShaneM> Later
[11:54] <moylan> will they be asking for the licence fee from blind users who use a braille display on a laptop which still has a screen?
[12:01] <slashtom> not to mention cutting their benefits
[19:33] <tdr112> evening
[19:34] <airurando> evening tdr112
[19:34] <airurando> evening all
[19:34] <imgarysmith> heya guys
[19:35] <airurando> howdy imgarysmith
[19:38] <airurando> imgarysmith: is episode 2 of the ubuntuie podcast being recorded tonight?
[19:44] <ebel> yo yo
[19:46] <imgarysmith> ye it is, after this meeting
[19:48] <airurando> I'm looking forward to hearing it.  Well done to you and all involved.
[19:49] <imgarysmith> airurando, thanks.its great craic to do
[20:00] <tdr112> meeting
[20:00] <airurando> yip
[20:01] <infoturtle_> evenin` all
[20:02] <imgarysmith> story andru
[20:02] <airurando> hi infoturtle_
[20:03] <Gnatrick> evenin all
[20:03] <infoturtle_> my pc's on the mend again so I'm using this toned down web version of IRC
[20:03] <airurando> ebel wanna start or give it a few more mins?
[20:03] <tdr112> infoturtle_: irssi is the only way to go
[20:03] <airurando> evening Gnatrick
[20:03] <imgarysmith> @infoturtle_, did you get your hdd working?
[20:04] <infoturtle_> nope, still bust, and I installed ubutn on another hdd i had and now I can't install thinsg
[20:04] <infoturtle_> lol thats my pc for ya
[20:04] <ebel> ahoy
[20:04] <infoturtle_> quad core, 4 gig's or ram and can't run linux
[20:04] <Gnatrick> live boot?
[20:04] <ebel> we could give it a few mins.
[20:05] <Gnatrick> neither hdds working andru?
[20:05] <imgarysmith> is all your app work gone?
[20:05] <ebel> might aswell start meeting now, i suppose
[20:05] <ebel> #startmeeting
[20:05] <MootBot> Meeting started at 14:05. The chair is ebel.
[20:05] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[20:05] <infoturtle_> Gnatrick: I have a running version that I'm using to repair it, it's just banjaxed too
[20:05] <infoturtle_> imgarysmith: atm yes
[20:05] <imgarysmith> sorry for ya
[20:05] <ebel> Welcome to the Feb 2011 Ubuntu Ireland IRC meeting
[20:05] <ebel> agenda is here:
[20:05] <ebel> [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2011-02-16
[20:05] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2011-02-16
[20:06] <infoturtle_> it's cool, just gotta find out how to repair a super block and all should be good
[20:06] <ebel> Please say PRESENT if you're here and taking part
[20:06] <ebel> PRESENT
[20:06] <infoturtle_> now onto the meeting
[20:06] <infoturtle_> PRESENT
[20:06] <lau1> present
[20:06] <Gnatrick> present
[20:06] <imgarysmith> present
[20:06] <tdr112> present
[20:06] <airurando> present
[20:06] <ebel> cool :)
[20:07] <ebel> first topic
[20:07] <ebel> [topic] Review of previous action items
[20:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  Review of previous action items
[20:07] <ebel> which i'm not sure who proposed. anyone got anything to say on this?
[20:07] <airurando> just one action item recorded from last month
[20:08] <airurando> airurando will make an etherpad with workshop wishlishs/offers for potential UH topics
[20:10] <ebel> ok, and is there anything to report?
[20:10] <tdr112> do we have a link
[20:11] <ebel> tdr112: previous IRC meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2011-01-19
[20:12] <infoturtle_> did anyone suggest anything for the wishlist?
[20:13] <ebel> looks like airurando is experiencing network difficulties :)
[20:14] <infoturtle_> think that answers that question
[20:14] <infoturtle_> will we come back to it when he's back on?
[20:14] <ebel> we'll leave it till he gets back?
[20:14] <ebel> next topic
[20:14] <imgarysmith> here is the link to the pad
[20:14] <ebel> [topic] More community input for podcast
[20:14] <MootBot> New Topic:  More community input for podcast
[20:14] <imgarysmith> http://pad.ubuntu-ie.org/UbuntuHourDublin
[20:14] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://pad.ubuntu-ie.org/UbuntuHourDublin
[20:15] <infoturtle_> imgarysmith: you proposed this topic didn't you?
[20:15] <imgarysmith> i did
[20:15] <tdr112> what are you looking for imgarysmith
[20:15] <infoturtle_> then the floor is yours
[20:15] <ebel> over to imgarysmith
[20:15] <imgarysmith> i want to get feedback from people on the podcast, ideas or suggestions for what we can cover or anything else
[20:16] <imgarysmith> do people what more news, reviews, tutorials?
[20:16] <Gnatrick> tutorials i think
[20:17] <imgarysmith> tutorials for beginners or more advanced users?
[20:17] <Gnatrick> Both mayhaps? Depending on the topic of the week
[20:17] <Gnatrick> the great linux switch section is kinda like a newbie guide anwyay
[20:18] <infoturtle_> imgarysmith was saying to do one on dual booting but it raises the question, Should we cover topics for users fimilar with the system already of getting people into the ways of linux
[20:18] <imgarysmith> true but im not sure when paul will next be a host, do you know andru?
[20:18] <infoturtle_> duno, he's in canada now so It may be trixy
[20:19] <Gnatrick> well i think we should try to cover both bases, have a section for both?
[20:19] <infoturtle_> point taken, we'll discuss this later will we?
[20:20] <Gnatrick> coolio
[20:20] <imgarysmith> gnatrick, good idea. we can look into that
[20:20] <infoturtle_> ebel shall we move on?
[20:20] <ebel> OK so!
[20:20] <infoturtle_> cool
[20:20] <ebel> (I'm sorry to admit that i haven't listened to the podcast yet! :( )
[20:20] <ebel> [topic] natty cds
[20:20] <infoturtle_> its cool
[20:20] <MootBot> New Topic:  natty cds
[20:21] <infoturtle_> it's full of mistakes so I'm kinda shy about it
[20:21] <ebel> i joined a few related topics into this one
[20:21] <ebel> there are a few things
[20:21] <ebel> Most importantly
[20:21] <ebel> I am the Point of Contact, so canonical sends me CDs (& other stuff)
[20:21] <ebel> Howeever I'm out of the country when natty / 11.04 is released
[20:22] <ebel> last time the CDs were sent abotu 1 week after release
[20:22] <ebel> (but other times it's taken a few weeks)
[20:22] <tdr112> is it hard to get them sent to someone else
[20:22] <tdr112> ?
[20:23] <ebel> if the CDs are sent in a similar short time, they'll be in my mailbox for yonks
[20:23] <ebel> tdr112: Dunno, i'll have to look into it
[20:23] <ebel> Anyone want to volunteer to do the CD distribution
[20:23] <ebel> ?
[20:23] <imgarysmith> i can do it if nobody else wants to volunteer
[20:23] <airurando> I'd be happy to
[20:23] <ebel> I wonder if we change the PoC to someone else, then they /should/ send them to them.
[20:24] <infoturtle_> I would but, being >100 miles away causes problems
[20:24] <airurando> apologies for dropping out earlier.
[20:24] <ebel> [action] ebel will chance up with canonical/ubuntu loco with how/if to change address
[20:24] <MootBot> ACTION received:  ebel will chance up with canonical/ubuntu loco with how/if to change address
[20:24] <ebel> Last time the CDs were sent all over the country
[20:24] <tdr112> we still have some 10.10 cds in tog
[20:25] <ebel> *ahem* I would suggest that this time we get SAEs from people who want CDs this time. Saves on postage :P
[20:25] <airurando> I just have a few Q's comments and suggestions about prepping for distribution of the 11.04 CDs
[20:25] <infoturtle_> whats an sae?
[20:25] <tdr112> thats true on unfair on ebel pocket
[20:25] <imgarysmith> ebel, i second that. i noticed it cost €3 to send them to me
[20:26] <Gnatrick> self addressed envelope info
[20:27] <infoturtle_> ah
[20:27] <airurando> I think it would be worth while to e-mail the comp socs and others that received a bundle of CDs just to ask if they were happy with them and managed to distribute them.
[20:27] <Gnatrick> you were expecting a more complex TLA ;)
[20:27] <airurando> Also we could ask whether or not they would like a similar amount in May.  I question this because May is a busy College month and also the end of the academic year.  Are comp soc members to busy at this time of year?  Are colleges the right avenue for distribution of the X.04 iterations of Ubuntu?
[20:27] <imgarysmith> airurando, they went down a bomb in my college. but we could have used more
[20:28] <ebel> Previously I used normal stamps and put them in the post box, last time I went into the post office and your one insisted they weren't envelops, so i needed to pay more.
[20:28] <ebel> :P
[20:28] <tdr112> i gave them to dcu & tcd
[20:28] <infoturtle_> UL want 200 quid from me to passs out the 10.10 cd's next week, you may want to look into if they charge first
[20:29] <tdr112> infoturtle_: wow
[20:29] <airurando> infoturtle if the college comp soc takes them there will be no charge
[20:29] <imgarysmith> infotutle_ i can pass them onto my brother to give to the UL comp soc
[20:29] <ebel> airurando: good point re: time of year & unis
[20:29] <Gnatrick> If needs be i can get some to the UCC comp soc/netsoc/whatever
[20:30] <ebel> infoturtle_: wow, they want to change you? nuts
[20:30] <airurando> I think it would also be very worthwhile to compile a list of the contact details for these comp socs.  Generic contact details are best as people come and go. the question should always be asked if they are interesed in receiving CDs following each release.
[20:30] <imgarysmith> and amount of cds they need, my college would have taken more
[20:30] <airurando> I'd hate top see CDs go to waste when other places want more.
[20:31] <ebel> imgarysmith: what college is that again?
[20:31] <airurando> indeed imgarysmith
[20:31] <imgarysmith> tallaght
[20:31] <infoturtle_> ya, they sent an email in reply to me asking if they could give me a table a chair and a power socket and the students union sent me back a list of costs and it e75 per hour and 200 for a day
[20:31] <ebel> imgarysmith: good to know
[20:31] <tdr112> imgarysmith: you are welcome to drop into tog and pick up some more
[20:32] <airurando> infoturtle I reckon you need to go through skynet I think (UL Comp Soc).
[20:32] <imgarysmith> thanks tdr122, it will be added to my agenda
[20:32] <ebel> so suggestion is to ask people who got CDs last time how they did?
[20:32] <infoturtle_> ill look into that airurando
[20:33] <ebel> I like that suggestion.
[20:33] <ebel> e.g. TOG probably got too many :P
[20:33] <imgarysmith> infoturtle_, ill get you the contact details of someone in it if you want
[20:33] <airurando> ebe;l yes
[20:34] <tdr112> ebel: yep  as i got 100 more for the con
[20:34] <ebel> infoturtle_: i second the idea of going through a college soc. usually they get things like that for free
[20:34] <infoturtle_> so will I sugest some being sent down this end of will I pay for postages and handling when they get here?
[20:34] <Gnatrick> thirded
[20:34] <airurando> I sent an email to NUIG and got a very positive response.
[20:35] <airurando> if we compile a list of the 10:10 receivers I'll e-mail them
[20:35] <infoturtle_> I'll get onto them first thing tomorrow so
[20:35] <ebel> airurando: I can give you a list of email addresses/
[20:35] <airurando> thanks ebel.
[20:35] <airurando> once I get the list I'll send the e-mails out
[20:35] <ebel> [action] ebel will give airurando the list of 10.10 recieptients, airurando will email them to solicit feedback
[20:36] <MootBot> ACTION received:  ebel will give airurando the list of 10.10 recieptients, airurando will email them to solicit feedback
[20:36] <ebel> who wants to be the PoC for the CDs then? :) I belive airurando, imgarysmith  and infoturtle_ volunteered :)
[20:37] <ebel> infoturtle_: don't worry about being >100 mi away. they have post offices in co. clare, right? ;)
[20:37] <airurando> I have a house in Kildare with someone at home most of the time.
[20:37] <infoturtle_> they might
[20:37] <infoturtle_> I'm in limerick
[20:37] <infoturtle_> lol
[20:37] <ebel> :)
[20:37] <infoturtle_> ya I'll take em sure
[20:37] <Gnatrick> hehe forget it so ;)
[20:37] <airurando> delivery to me shouldn't be a prob.
[20:37] <imgarysmith> i dont mind, i can take them, there is nearly someone here all the time
[20:37] <airurando> but I'm happy either way
[20:37] <ebel> Remember it's a big (heavy) box.
[20:38] <ebel> So if you have to walk back from the collection office, you might get a bit grumpy.
[20:38] <infoturtle_> if only we could draw straws
[20:38] <Gnatrick> i'm the only one here and me collection office is miles away :/
[20:38] <ebel> Twas easy for me, since my concierge took it :P
[20:38] <infoturtle_> I'm right beside the GPO in limerick so it's not too big a deal for me
[20:38] <airurando> I can drive back from the collection centre if necessary
[20:38] <infoturtle_> ha ha
[20:39] <infoturtle_> this is gas
[20:39] <airurando> me
[20:39] <airurando> no m e
[20:39] <infoturtle_> go for it airurando
[20:39] <imgarysmith> haha fight fight fight
[20:39] <infoturtle_> this will never find someone if we keep it up like this
[20:39] <airurando> ha ha
[20:39] <airurando> great that so many are offering
[20:40] <ebel> Right, i'm thinking of an integer between 1 and 10 (incl both ends).
[20:40] <Gnatrick> :)
[20:40] <Gnatrick> 0! erk...
[20:40] <ebel> airurando, imgarysmith, infoturtle_ if you're still volunteering, say a number
[20:40] <imgarysmith> 4
[20:40] <airurando> 7
[20:40] <infoturtle_> for (i=0;1<10;i++);
[20:40] <infoturtle_> I win!!
[20:40] <infoturtle_> 3
[20:40] <ebel> twas 7. airurando 'wins'
[20:41] <ebel> you ok with that?
[20:41] <airurando> ha ha
[20:41] <airurando> I'm happy
[20:41] <ebel> cool
[20:41] <ebel> [action
[20:41] <ebel> [action
[20:41] <ebel> [action
[20:41] <ebel> ah! stubby fingers!
[20:41] <infoturtle_> how did my loop not get it??
[20:41] <infoturtle_> ha ha
[20:41] <ebel> [action] airurando will take the CDs
[20:41] <MootBot> ACTION received:  airurando will take the CDs
[20:41] <infoturtle_> Don't think I've ever laughed like this in IRC
[20:41] <ebel> infoturtle_: you didn't print out the number, merely iterated over it :P
[20:42] <imgarysmith> infoturtle_, you forgot the brackets, duh"
[20:42] <infoturtle_> oh!!!
[20:42] <Gnatrick> :) you never got output andru
[20:42] <Gnatrick> lol snap

[20:42] <infoturtle_> and are we having a release party for this one?
[20:42] <ebel> the other topic for natty cds was from imgarysmith about getting more CDs, what did you want to say imgarysmith
[20:43] <ebel> infoturtle_: (oh release party, we'll AOB that, ok?)
[20:43] <infoturtle_> cool
[20:44] <airurando> imgarysmith: as far as I am aware free extra CDs can only be obtained if an "approved" conference  is being attended.
[20:44] <imgarysmith> just to get more cds from canonical, but from talking about the 1104 release, there are more lying around.
[20:45] <ebel> bummer.
[20:45] <ebel> imgarysmith: feel free to ask aroung
[20:45] <imgarysmith> airurando, right, lets start a conference
[20:45] <ebel> #ubuntu-locoteams is a good resource for asking things like that
[20:45] <imgarysmith> haha
[20:45] <imgarysmith> ebel, ill call into TOG and get some
[20:45] <ebel> ok
[20:46] <ebel> next topic
[20:46] <ebel> [topic] Engineer's Ireland 'IT Community Day'
[20:46] <MootBot> New Topic:  Engineer's Ireland 'IT Community Day'
[20:46] <ebel> me and tdr112 and slashtom (and some others like ompaul, and robfitz)
[20:46] <ebel> were at engineers ireland recently
[20:46] <ebel> someone there is trying to organise an it professional community day thing
[20:47] <ebel> on a saturday in dublin. twill be free in.
[20:47] <infoturtle_> this saturday?
[20:47] <ebel> no
[20:47] <infoturtle_> oh
[20:47] <ebel> april IIRC
[20:47] <infoturtle_> a saturday
[20:47] <Gnatrick> I'd nearly be up for travelling, if i'm not working!
[20:47] <ebel> it's a collection of  "a day in the life of X" short talks
[20:48] <ebel> they'd  like a linux sysadmin to do some talk.
[20:49] <infoturtle_> anyone here a sysadmin?
[20:49] <Gnatrick> I'm far from sysadmin :p
[20:49]  * ebel /has/ worked as a linux sysadmin
[20:49] <ebel> the audience is other it professionals (I think)
[20:49] <tdr112> i will be giving a talk on tog
[20:49] <infoturtle_> m just a glorfied blogger and lay about
[20:50] <infoturtle_> think you can do it ebel?
[20:50] <ebel> yeah I was thinking of volunteers
[20:50] <Gnatrick> is this connected to the engineering week?
[20:50] <ebel> so I wanted to tell people about it and see if anyone wanted to talk
[20:50] <Gnatrick> same folks or something?
[20:50] <ebel> Gnatrick: same folks
[20:51] <airurando> sorry, I dropped out again where are we?
[20:51] <ebel> engineers ireland it community talks
[20:52] <airurando> thanks
[20:52] <Gnatrick> wish i could have made it, would love to have seen the intro to arduino. I'm up for attending, but as far as talking i'd avoid!
[20:52] <ebel> So, next topic?
[20:52] <ebel> [topic] social events from airurando
[20:52] <MootBot> New Topic:  social events from airurando
[20:52] <airurando> thanks ebel
[20:52] <tdr112> Gnatrick: nope its not
[20:53] <airurando> At the bowling event at the end of January we discussed what could be organised for future social events.
[20:53] <airurando> Timing is everything with these and clashes with other events is inevitable.
[20:53] <airurando> Geeknics are great but based on the weather for recent ones perhaps May is a bit early and September a bit late. brrrrrr...
[20:54] <airurando> I'd like to suggest June and August Geeknics.
[20:54] <airurando> Preferably not bank holoday weekends.
[20:54] <infoturtle_> airurando topidea!
[20:54] <airurando> other events for other months and perhaps other locations.
[20:54] <airurando> thanks infoturtle_
[20:54] <ebel> geeknics ++ :)
[20:54] <airurando> nothing new in it though
[20:55] <Gnatrick> indoor geeknics? ;)
[20:55] <airurando> everyone ok with switching from may to June
[20:55] <infoturtle_> road trip!!
[20:55] <infoturtle_> I'm good for that airurando
[20:55] <airurando> Gnatrick top idea
[20:56] <ebel> airurando: yeah geeknics sound cool
[20:56] <Gnatrick> Yeah that's cool, my birthday that month ;)
[20:56] <ebel> [agreed] geeknics in june and ausgust weekends, pref. not bank holidays
[20:56] <MootBot> AGREED received:  geeknics in june and ausgust weekends, pref. not bank holidays
[20:57] <airurando> cool
[20:57] <ebel> next topic
[20:57] <ebel> [topic] Ubuntu Global Jam (née Bug Jam) (from me)
[20:57] <MootBot> New Topic:  Ubuntu Global Jam (née Bug Jam) (from me)
[20:57] <ebel> the ubuntu global jam (aka bug jam) is on soon
[20:57] <tdr112> what date is it
[20:57] <ebel> what shall we do? have a global jam event?
[20:58] <ebel> april 1st → 4th
[20:58] <ebel> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/567/detail/
[20:58] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/567/detail/
[20:58] <infoturtle_> Sounds great, how much programming knolage do we need?
[20:58] <ebel> little
[20:58] <airurando> none
[20:59] <airurando> I'm proof of that
[20:59] <infoturtle_> I thought it was bug fixing?
[20:59] <infoturtle_> spelling knowledge would be great
[20:59] <ebel> nah, not bug fixing
[20:59] <ebel> though you can do that if you want (and some have)
[20:59] <ebel> the original point is a concentrated effort at house keeping
[20:59] <ebel> and an introduction of how ubuntu development works
[21:00] <ebel> how you can get help and improve ubuntu
[21:00] <ebel> how to file bugs, how the system works (packages, apt etc)
[21:00] <infoturtle_> sounds fancy
[21:00] <Gnatrick> cool
[21:00] <airurando> great fun last time
[21:01] <ebel> yeah
[21:01]  * tdr112 has to head
[21:01] <infoturtle_> have we a place for it?
[21:01] <ebel> so to do it we need a venue foremost
[21:01] <Gnatrick> i could prob make a day or two of it!
[21:01] <ebel> and people to be there on the day and take part
[21:01] <infoturtle_> lol
[21:01] <airurando> perpetual issue.. venue
[21:01] <infoturtle_> where could we have it?
[21:02] <airurando> infoturtle_ multi site?
[21:02] <airurando> venue in Limerick?
[21:02] <airurando> and Dublin
[21:03] <infoturtle_> that could work
[21:03] <imgarysmith> i think multivenue is a good idea
[21:03] <infoturtle_> if we have someone it limerick that has done it before to take charge
[21:03] <ebel> have some online video streaming. :P
[21:03] <infoturtle_> better again
[21:03] <airurando> it weas
[21:03] <airurando> it was great in TOG last time
[21:04] <ebel> yeah.
[21:04] <imgarysmith> ebel, podcast can cover the "best bits"
[21:04] <airurando> they were kind to host us
[21:04] <infoturtle_> we could use the new MILK venue
[21:04] <infoturtle_> down this end
[21:04] <airurando> infoturtle_ now you're thinkin'
[21:04] <infoturtle_> :D
[21:05] <ebel> airurando: we could ask 'em again?
[21:05] <Gnatrick> K
[21:05] <airurando> ebel: that would be great
[21:05] <Gnatrick> I can get to Limk, stay at the gf's folks house or something!
[21:06] <ebel> so i suppose if we have a venue, then we should be OK in DUB?
[21:06] <infoturtle_> I'll talk to Milk next meeting
[21:07] <infoturtle_> so action to ask to host the jam in the hacker spaces
[21:07] <infoturtle_> ??
[21:07] <ebel> [action] look for venues for jam
[21:07] <MootBot> ACTION received:  look for venues for jam
[21:07] <ebel> [topic] Possibly OSSBArcamp May/September
[21:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  Possibly OSSBArcamp May/September
[21:07] <ebel> from czajkowski
[21:07] <infoturtle_> she with us?
[21:08] <ebel> i don't think so....
[21:08] <ebel> so we'll have to wait till some other time
[21:08] <infoturtle_> ok so
[21:09] <ebel> airurando: would you like to talk about the etherpad UH suggestion?
[21:09] <airurando_> yip
[21:09] <airurando_> airurando will make an etherpad with workshop wishlishs/offers for potential UH topics
[21:10] <airurando_> I generated the pad and mailed the list
[21:10] <airurando_> lkink provided earlier I believe
[21:11] <airurando_> not much added yet
[21:11] <infoturtle_> http://pad.ubuntu-ie.org/UbuntuHourDublin
[21:11] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://pad.ubuntu-ie.org/UbuntuHourDublin
[21:11] <airurando_> all on the wishlist side this far
[21:11] <ebel> :(
[21:11] <airurando_> think this one is a slow burner
[21:11] <airurando_> can develop over time
[21:12] <airurando_> should be discussed at upcomming UHs
[21:12] <airurando_> thats it
[21:12] <ebel> OK
[21:12] <infoturtle_> more promotion might help interest
[21:13] <ebel> [topic] Any Other Business ?
[21:13] <MootBot> New Topic:  Any Other Business ?
[21:13] <airurando_> one small thing
[21:13] <infoturtle_> 10.04 release party
[21:13] <infoturtle_> *11.04
[21:14] <airurando_> bit late for that
[21:14] <airurando_> aye
[21:14] <ebel> [topic] 11.04 release aprtyy
[21:14] <MootBot> New Topic:  11.04 release aprtyy
[21:14] <infoturtle_> whats a aprtyy??
[21:14] <infoturtle_> lol
[21:15] <ebel> :P
[21:15] <ebel> Suggestions for the release party ?
[21:15] <infoturtle_> so is there one going ahead for this release?
[21:15] <infoturtle_> Just a meet up to download the os I supose
[21:16] <airurando_> I've been dropping in and out tonight so I don't have a full record of the meeting
[21:16] <ebel> yeah
[21:16] <infoturtle_> will it be on the day of release or a small few days after, also where could it be help?
[21:16] <infoturtle_> *hrld
[21:17] <infoturtle_> *held
[21:17] <infoturtle_> omfg.....
[21:17] <ebel> historically we've had it a few days after the release
[21:17] <ebel> usually on a saturday
[21:17] <airurando_> isn't there the possibility of an OSSbarcamp at end of april
[21:17] <ebel> as I said, i'll be out of the country, so I've no opinion on it.
[21:17] <infoturtle_> ok
[21:18] <infoturtle_> so someone else to plan it
[21:18] <infoturtle_> airurando_ you want to tie it in with OSSbarcamp?
[21:18] <airurando_> if OSSbarcamp proceeds it will have a huge influence on this
[21:18] <ebel> yeah
[21:18] <infoturtle_> in a good or bad way?
[21:18] <airurando_> infoturtle_ only if OSSbarcamp proceeds
[21:19] <infoturtle_> ok
[21:19] <airurando_> In a good way but the location will depend on Ossbarcamp
[21:19] <infoturtle_> so we may need to wait for info from czajkowski on this so
[21:19] <infoturtle_> assuming she is taking charge of OSSbarcamp
[21:20] <airurando_> czajkowski is looking for support
[21:21] <airurando_> but we should look for confirmation on OSSbarcamp before deciding on anything
[21:21] <infoturtle_> agreed
[21:21] <ebel> ok
[21:21] <ebel> [agreed] consult about ossbarcamp before deciding on release party
[21:21] <MootBot> AGREED received:  consult about ossbarcamp before deciding on release party
[21:22] <infoturtle_> have we anything else?
[21:22] <ebel> ok so that should be it right?
[21:22] <ebel> [topic] AOB?
[21:22] <MootBot> New Topic:  AOB?
[21:23] <airurando> yeah
[21:23] <airurando> small
[21:23] <airurando> Meeting section on LoCo directory
[21:23] <ebel> [topic] meeting section of LD
[21:23] <MootBot> New Topic:  meeting section of LD
[21:24] <airurando> I don't understand the functionality of this yet and I am happy with the wiki control of our IRC meetings
[21:24] <ebel> ditto
[21:25] <infoturtle_> I've yet to see this
[21:25] <airurando> just wondering is everyone is happy with us continuing to use the wiki and I'll back populate the LD
[21:25] <Gnatrick> brb lads, gotta get to shop before it closes
[21:25] <airurando> Gnatrick bye
[21:26] <ebel> Gnatrick: night
[21:26] <infoturtle_> sure, if your up for it ebel
[21:26] <ebel> airurando: i'm happy to keep using the wiki
[21:26] <ebel> current system works AFAIK
[21:26] <ebel> *AFAIC
[21:26] <airurando> grand
[21:26] <airurando> I'm done
[21:26] <ebel> cool
[21:26] <ebel> [topic] AOB?
[21:26] <MootBot> New Topic:  AOB?
[21:27] <airurando> no
[21:27] <infoturtle_> new topic: infoturtle is cool
[21:27] <ebel> cool :P
[21:27] <ebel> #endmeeting
[21:27] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 15:27.
[21:27] <ebel> thansk for taking part
[21:27] <ebel> sometime we should try to get these sub1hour
[21:27] <lau1> sort of sorry
[21:27] <infoturtle_> fun meeting guys
[21:27] <imgarysmith> exciting stuff
[21:28] <ebel> :)
[21:28] <airurando> great stuff
[21:28] <airurando> thanks ebel
[21:28] <infoturtle_> right, off to the land or recording, see everybody later
[21:28] <airurando> break a leg nfoturtle_
[21:29] <airurando> *infoturtle_
[21:29]  * ebel flees
[21:29] <infoturtle_> I'll try airurando!
[21:29] <ebel> see ye again


[00:13] <poochie> hi
[00:32] <superdreamkilla> I've been using konqueror for a while, and today it starting saying "The requested operation could not be completed" on every page I attempt to open. If I click the reload button, then the page will be displayed. What's going on?
[00:35] <vonkleist_> what version of kde are you using?
[00:35] <vonkleist_> better... what version of kubuntu are you using?
[00:36] <superdreamkilla> 4.3.2
[00:36] <superdreamkilla> for kde
[00:37] <superdreamkilla> 9.10 for kubuntu
[00:39] <superdreamkilla> I attempted to do apt-get dist-upgrade, but for each file it attempts to download, I get a 404 error
[00:41] <superdreamkilla> if I attempt the upgrade through the package manager, I get an exit with code 127
[00:48] <EvilRoey> hey all
[00:48] <EvilRoey> question:  I have music on my server.  I am on my laptop and I wish to stream music from it and play or even control it through Amarok on my laptop.  What software do I use to accomplish this?
[00:49] <vonkleist_> I think 9.10 is out of support
[00:50] <superdreamkilla> what should I do?
[00:50] <vonkleist_> try running do-release-upgrade
[00:51] <vonkleist_> if works, it'll take you to 12.04
[00:52] <superdreamkilla> i think it will just give me the 404 error, couldn't download files
[00:52] <superdreamkilla> i'll try
[00:57] <vonkleist_> The 404 error maybe is because there's no more karmic on repositories
[00:57] <vonkleist_> do-release-upgrade should take you to the latest version, no matter which one is it
[00:57] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | superdreamkilla
[00:58] <vonkleist_> cool
[00:58] <vonkleist_> thanx bazhang
[00:59] <superdreamkilla> that makes sense for the 404, but I was thinking I could have had some weird error in my internet config, since I had the browser error
[01:00] <superdreamkilla> do-release-upgrade is working so far
[01:01] <vonkleist_> oh, good
[01:01] <superdreamkilla> yes, thank you
[01:02] <vonkleist_> maybe you could try running konqueror inside a command line, and see if it shows something else
[01:04] <MySystem1> a question if i have 2 partitions with same uid (a clone) and i set the hidden flag for the ones which i don't want to be mounted is this enough?
[01:04] <MySystem1> dont want to try because its / and /home
[01:08] <vonkleist_> MySystem1, if you don't want a partition to be mounted at boot time, just disable it from /etc/fstab
[01:10] <MySystem1> thats the problem i want that it is mounted (i need / and /home) but i dont want both partitions (the clone) to be mounted and in fstab is the mount option with uid and dont want to mount via /dev/sdxx
[01:11] <vonkleist_> Oh, got it
[01:12] <MySystem1> my idea was the hidden flag for partitions
[01:12] <MySystem1> but is this enough because if i restat and mount dont know what to mount i dont have a / or /home so no boot
[01:14] <MySystem1> if it helps my fstab http://pastebin.com/1a5n5EAx
[01:21] <MySystem1> ok i will have a try if it dont works i remove the clone hd and first find a solution
[01:25] <c2tarun> my idle laptop screen is going black in just 35 seconds :( I disabled it from every where.
[01:25] <c2tarun> Any suggestion :(
[01:47] <MySystem> ok it seems to work all partitions i wanted are mounted the only strange thing is that i see the clone partitions in dolphin but this isnt a problem
[01:49] <c2tarun> MySystem: clone partition?
[01:54] <MySystem> yes i cloned 2 partitions to another hd because of possible errors but then i get that this was the wrong hd and now i have the orginal partitions and the clones with same uid and fstab mount is via uid so i flagged the clone as hidden but dolphin sees the hidden partitions but my kubuntu starts and mounts the rhigt partitions from the org hd
[01:58] <MySystem> so how do mount or the prog that interprets fstab figure out which uid is the right
[02:06] <vonkleist_> MySystem, why don't you try changing the UUID por the new partition?
[02:07] <MySystem> one reason for because if the old 80gb org sys hd crash i only have to reinstall grub and nothing else but realy this isnt't such important so how do i change a uid
[02:08] <vonkleist_> http://nixcraft.com/shell-scripting/948-change-uuid-ext3-partition.html
[02:11] <MySystem> ok very nice and easy
[02:14] <MySystem> think i have to run the cmd as root but in kubuntu i dont have a real root user so i cant su at which places do i need to add the sudo (dont know all comands of this line:"uuidgen | xargs tune2fs /dev/hdaX -U ; vol_id /dev/hdaX")
[02:25] <MySystem> ok my fault it works with "uuidgen | sudo xargs tune2fs /dev/sdd4 -U ; sudo vol_id /dev/sdd4" the only prob was i tried sdd1 which is a ntfs
[02:29] <MySystem> very nice know there are no conflicts and all working right lot of thx for this
[02:30] <MySystem> another complete different question i want to mute and unmute line-in from soundcard via console is there a way that i can use in a script
[02:33] <vonkleist_> try amixer
[02:36] <MySystem> this could work what a nice prog there a values i have never read
[02:41] <vonkleist_> ok, got to go
[02:41] <vonkleist_> c u
[02:48] <megamanx1978> I cannot play my humble bundle games can somone please help?
[03:08] <MySystem> for today its enough lots of thx to all helpers and good night
[03:56] <c2tarun> my KDE screen is turning off in 35 seconds, can anyone please help me with that?
[03:57] <loli_stoner> try running "xset -dpms"
[04:00] <c2tarun> loli_stoner: are you saying to me?
[04:00] <loli_stoner> ya
[04:00] <c2tarun> loli_stoner: what does xset do?
[04:00] <loli_stoner> that command will disable dpms energy star
[04:00] <loli_stoner> you can see what your current settings are by running "xset -q"
[04:01] <c2tarun> loli_stoner: did that lets wait :(
[04:01] <loli_stoner> k
[04:02] <c2tarun> loli_stoner: it seems it worked :) thanks a lot, what is dpms by the way
[04:03] <loli_stoner> it's energy star
[04:03] <loli_stoner> basically you have your computer set to go into energy saving mode every 35 seconds
[04:03] <c2tarun> ohh....
[04:03] <loli_stoner> i had the same problem randomly once although for me it turned off exactly every 3 seconds
[04:04] <c2tarun> 3 seconds :) lolz... its like litrellay continuously moving mouse
[04:05] <loli_stoner> ya
[05:22] <Daskreech> 3 seconds?
[05:22] <loli_stoner> what?
[05:23] <Daskreech> It turned off in 3 seconds?
[05:23] <loli_stoner> oh my computer?
[05:23] <loli_stoner> yeah it use to be that the screen would turn off every 3 seconds
[05:49] <jonhaller> Can anyone help me with understanding some of these configuration values for this STA driver source file?
[05:54] <c2tarun> loli_stoner: hey, my dpsm is getting enabled automatically.. any advice?
[05:54] <loli_stoner> oh
[05:55] <loli_stoner> um...  maybe put a startup script in .kde/Autostart that runs "xset -dpms"?
[05:55] <c2tarun> loli_stoner: I didn't restart my machine since morning. here is my xset -q output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1227956/
[05:56] <c2tarun> what does this line "Standby: 33    Suspend: 49    Off: 66" means?
[05:57] <loli_stoner> how long to wait before doing that
[05:57] <loli_stoner> mien is Standby: 21600    Suspend: 32400    Off: 43200
[05:57] <loli_stoner> *mine
[05:57] <c2tarun> you mean off:66 is to turn off monitor in 66sec?
[05:57] <loli_stoner> i guess
[05:58] <loli_stoner> try running "xset dpms 21600 32400 43200" to get it to the same settings as mine
[05:59] <c2tarun> done :( no luck, sorry I have to leave for work, I'll try to look and man page there might be some place for configuration.
[05:59] <c2tarun> anyway, thanks a lot :)
[05:59] <loli_stoner> ok
[06:55] <mah454> Hello
[06:56] <mah454> How can login in new window in Kubuntu ? (like gnome) with Xnest
[06:57] <mah454_> can do this in kubuntu ?
[07:35] <Lynoure> mah454: (Disclaimer: I'm quite ill and as the result most of my brain is sleeping) This might answer your question: http://techbase.kde.org/Archive:Getting_Started/Run/Nested_Session
[09:35] <Mailman> Is there any way to get the application launcher to open with the meta key? I can only get it to recognize it as a modifier.
[09:36] <shadeslayer> Mailman: just the meta key ? I don't think so
[09:40] <tcberner> Hi there. I updated php by mistake to 5.4.6 --  is there a way to go back to 5.3.10?
[09:42] <Mailman> Is there a way to replicate Unity's Ctrl + Alt + Shift + Arrow Keys to move windows from one desktop to another?
[09:44] <hateball> there should be a hotkey setting for that
[09:46] <hateball> Mailman: it's in global hotkey settings for kwin
[09:46] <hateball> unbound by default
[09:46] <hateball> and also you cant use meta as anything but modifier key (at least not by default)
[09:50] <shadeslayer> tcberner: maybe, you could do : sudo apt-get install foo=bar
[09:50] <shadeslayer> foo is the package name, bar is the version
[09:52] <tcberner> shadeslayer: unfortunatley there is only one version as it seems
[09:59] <tcberner> yeah, found 5.3.17 :)
[10:09] <shadeslayer> tcberner: best to pin the packages once you're satisfied
[11:04] <Cormann> hello all having a bit of a problem with desktop 12.04 LTS of Kubuntu. It boots but will not load x I look thru the log file and it seems to be having some sort of a problem with my nvidia video card. anyone know an easy answer?
[11:05] <Cormann> I'm currently downloading the ubuntu desktop same version to see if the problem is with KDE or something else
[11:06] <lordievader> Cormann: Have you installed the driver for your card?
[11:07] <Cormann> I am running the desktop CD boot and run or so it says
[11:07] <Cormann> It boots, I get the start screen then it errors out to the cli for kbuntu
[11:07] <lordievader> Cormann: You haven't installed it yet?
[11:07] <Cormann> No I am trying it out to see if I want to load it for dual boot or not
[11:08] <lordievader> Cormann: I see, what nVidia card do you have?
[11:09] <Cormann> gforce gt 426m its a laptop
[11:09] <Cormann> in the log it says it can not find the moduel nvidia then further down it says can not find the moduel nv and it tries to load the vesa module
[11:10] <lordievader> Cormann: It could be that your card is not supported by the default driver...
[11:10] <Cormann> wish I could pastebin the log for you, however I am on the laptop now and no way to send it when its booted to the cli and no conf to run anything
[11:10] <Cormann> very possibly
[11:11] <Cormann> however most if not all nvidia chipsets will work in vesa mode
[11:11] <Cormann> even at lower rez I could at least see if it will run on this machine
[11:11] <Cormann> tweeks can come later of course
[11:12] <lordievader> Cormann: I agree it should work.
[11:13] <Cormann> one would think so guess we shall see when I burn the ubuntu disk if I have the same issue, then its off to ubuntu forums hahah Thank you for your help however
[11:14] <Cormann> kubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso is the file I am using
[11:14] <lordievader> Cormann: No problem, hope you resolve your problem.
[11:14] <Cormann> the ubuntu one is 12.04.1 is that different?
[11:14] <Cormann> always a challenge, figure it out lol
[11:15] <lordievader> Cormann: There is no kubuntu 12.04.1?
[11:15] <lordievader> Cormann: If not you can update to 12.04.1
[11:16] <Cormann> ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso downloading it right now
[11:29] <Solak> Hello.
[11:31] <Cormann> lordievader Confirming 12.04 Install Image Fails to Boot on Nvidia Card
[11:32] <Solak> Cormann: oh, geforce gtx 550ti?
[11:32] <lordievader> Cormann: That is not good to hear...
[11:32] <lordievader> Hey Solak, how are you?
[11:33]  * Solak was about to install kubuntu 12.04 on a system with that card...
[11:33] <Cormann> well I am reading the thread I'll let you know if there is an answer
[11:33] <Cormann> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1970682&highlight=desktop+cd+fails+with+nvidia+card
[11:34] <lordievader> Solak: Cormann has a different card, "gforce gt 426m"
[11:34] <Cormann> it looks like the installer recognizes the Nvidia card, then tries to load the open source Nouveau driver, and everything crashes
[11:34] <Solak> lordievader: oh. hmm.
[11:34] <lordievader> How nice.
[11:35] <Solak> lordievader: anyway, I first have to get a bootable cd :-)
[11:35] <Solak> lordievader: macos x complains that the .iso (64bit) is unmountable.
[11:35] <Cormann> I believe the plan is to release kernel updates 3 weeks after 12.04's release, which would be in mid-May.
[11:36] <lordievader> Solak: I'm sorry I don't have any experience with Mac's.
[11:36] <Cormann> This was posted in May, so perhaps the 12.04.1 is the fix? Will have to see, there is a work around if your installing it
[11:41] <Solak> I could try windows and create a new dvd.
[11:50] <arian-pc> hello I installed kde-full on ubuntu <IP_ADDRESS>  but the menu of athe gtk programms (like firefox ) are like windows 98 :)  I have this bug on only gtk programms only on kde 4.9.1  . what i can do?
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:30] <Solak> hmm, 'start kubuntu' doesn't start, it ends with a blank screen and a flashing cursor (textmode) in the left upper corner...
[12:31] <pkt> does e.g., ubuntu desktop start?
[12:31] <Solak> no.
[12:32] <Solak> well, I have the KUbuntu amd64 install iso and I see the opening screen.
[12:32] <pkt> I mean did you also try the ubuntu flavor?
[12:32] <pkt> or xubuntu or anything else
[12:32] <lordievader> Solak: Are you still in the installing phase?
[12:33] <pkt> in order to know whether it is KDE that is causing your problem or e.g., a bad graphics card
[12:34] <Solak> lordievader: in the start installing phase (had other things to do in the meantime, like lunch ;)).
[12:35] <Solak> lordievader: I have the iso on dvd now, the dvd starts, but 'start kubuntu' ends like I just said...
[12:35] <lordievader> Solak: So where are you exactly?
[12:35] <pkt> It looks like the X server doesn't load
[12:35] <lordievader> Solak: Hitting escape doesn't show you that it is loading things?
[12:35] <pkt> if you end up in text mode with something blinking
[12:36] <Solak> yes, I remember when I joined the channel something about nvidia, and yes, it's a geforce gtx 550ti
[12:36] <lordievader> Solak: Before jumping to conclusions, have you verified the dvd/cd?
[12:37] <Solak> lordievader: macos x verified it, and I don't see how that would break of startup halfway.
[12:38] <Solak> pkt: no, only kubuntu...
[12:39] <lordievader> Solak: Macos x? What I more ment, have you tried it in another machine to see if that one does go past Grub.
[12:40] <pkt> Solak: I would try latest daily live of kubuntu quantal or if that doesn't work, the latest Fedora beta
[12:40] <pkt> (because of newer kernels)
[12:40] <Solak> lordievader: no, except for the macbook pro I don't have any other 64bit machines here. Looks like grub passes, the dvd-activity is quite a while before it stops.
[12:40] <pkt> when you get one to work, it is easy to backport the differences
[12:41] <pkt> if you can't get any livecd to boot all the way to X then be prepared for quite some work
[12:42] <pkt> (or waiting until somebody else does this work for you)
[12:42] <Solak> I could try debian stable .iso (64bits)...
[12:43] <lordievader> Solak: Hold on, I'm asking someone about the alternate live-cd, that might help you.
[12:45] <pkt> the alternate cd can indeed help you do the install if this is your goal
[12:46] <lordievader> Solak: This is what BluesKaj said: yes the alternate live cd is text based but also recognizes hardware that the regular cd doesn't. So check that out first.
[12:46] <pkt> The relevant is that it is text mode
[12:46] <lordievader> Agreed.
[12:46] <pkt> but I thought you were evaluating if Linux will work well in your hardware
[12:47] <lordievader> Solak: Are you?
[12:47] <Solak> yes, and someone told me to hook up the mainboard gfx-card as well...
[12:47] <pkt> yes
[12:48] <BluesKaj> Solak, you sound fairly experienced . so the alternate cd is a good choice
[12:48] <pkt> usually that card would be some form of intel
[12:48] <pkt> so it should work
[12:48] <Solak> pkt: no, I just want to install it... I use linux over 10 years now, so I know what to expect :-)
[12:48] <pkt> ah ok then
[12:48] <pkt> by all means use the alternate cd :)
[12:49] <pkt> It will get the job done
[12:49] <Solak> first debian, later kubuntu...
[12:49] <lordievader> Solak: Hehe.
[12:49] <pkt> Solak: alternate cd is debian installer
[12:49] <pkt> so I 'm sure you are pretty familiar with this interface :)
[12:49] <lordievader> Solak: Debian offers the text-mode on their default cd.
[12:50] <Solak> hmmm. why doesn't have the normal installer a text-mode? :)
[12:50] <pkt> the "normal installer" is not really an installer so to speak
[12:50] <pkt> it copies the livecd wholesale
[12:50] <pkt> and then removes some stuff
[12:50] <Solak> ah, it is a livecd which also does install if really necessary? :)
[12:50] <pkt> yes
[12:51] <pkt> the alternate cd is like the debian install cds
[12:51] <pkt> the desktop cd is live
[12:51] <Solak> would it fit on a cd?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> yes, very similar
[12:51] <pkt> Solak: it is like the first debian install cd
[12:51] <pkt> not the whole archive of course :)
[12:51] <Solak> no :)
[12:56] <Solak> but there are geforce proprietary drivers, so if I have textmode first it should not be too hard to get it working...
[12:56] <pkt> if the proprietary drivers work for you then yes, no problem
[12:58] <pkt> so just get the alternate cd and give it a try then :)
[12:58] <Solak> pkt: it would not be first choice to use proprietary drivers, but I get the idea things don't work optimal without them.
[12:59]  * Solak remembers that the image was quite fuzzy on his old system without proprietary drivers (that was ATI X800 card)
[13:01] <pkt> these days radeon has improved a lot
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Solak, the nvidia-current drivers are the best choice for geforce cards on 12.04 and 12.10
[13:01] <Solak> the open source drivers?
[13:02] <Solak> BluesKaj: open or proprietary?
[13:02] <pkt> Solak: no, opensource ones are called nouveau
[13:02] <BluesKaj> all nvidia are proprietary
[13:02] <pkt> nvidia is usually referring to the proprietary driver
[13:03] <Solak> ok.
[13:03] <BluesKaj> but the proprietary additional drivers listed in jockey don't always work
[13:03] <pkt> These days I like radeon / intel more
[13:04] <pkt> I only use my nvidia machine for gpgpu stuff and for virtualized 3D with vmware
[13:04] <BluesKaj> why the nvidia-current driver isn't listed there is a mystery to to me
[13:07] <BluesKaj> it may have to do with nomenclature , the reasoning escapes me , however
[13:10] <Peace-> hi mates :D
[13:11] <lordievader> Hey Peace-, how are you?
[13:11] <Peace-> great lordievader
[13:12]  * Peace- works on kate snippets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAB1whqH9
[13:14] <lordievader> Peace-: Video doesn't exist...
[13:15] <Peace-> lol
[13:15] <Peace-> lordievader: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAB1whqH9n8
[13:38] <Solak> alternate cd works, at least textmode :)
[13:38] <Solak> hmm, 104.9Mb B ntfs / 75.5Gb ntfs / 52.4Gb Free
[13:38] <Solak> the 1st one is something unkown from windows 7...
[13:56] <lordievader> Solak: It is necessary to use Windows 7, do not delete that partition.
[14:18] <Solak> lordievader: yes, I just added 3 partitions.
[14:18] <lordievader> Solak: Ok, no problem then.
[14:18] <Solak> lordievader: only thing is that 'B' is now for the / partition of linux, and not that system partition of windows.
[14:19] <lordievader> Solak: I'm sorry do you mean sdb?
[14:20] <Solak> no, 'B' as in the boot-flag.
[14:20] <lordievader> Solak: Ah, I have a feeling that is normal. Grub is on /. Or so I would think, I'm no expert on Grub...
[14:25] <Solak> hmm, how do I unmark a partition for formatting?
[14:30] <pkt> Solak: you mean in the installer? probably you press "space" on it
[14:31] <Solak> pkt: manual partitioning in the installer. space doesn't work.
[14:34] <pkt> unfortunately I don't have an alternate cd here to verify
[14:35] <pkt> my memory tells that you use space to check/uncheck checkboxes in the text interface
[14:35] <pkt> but you could be looking at something different
[14:37] <Solak> pkt: <space> selects
[14:38] <Solak> pkt: but that seems to do nothing, <enter> however selects and goes to a new screen.
[14:38] <pkt> Ah, so you hadn't selected the partition
[14:39] <pkt> yes, first you select and you go to a screen where it tells you what do you want to do with the partition IIRC
[14:39] <pkt> i.e., do you want it to be swap / to format it and mount it somewhere etc etc
[14:39] <pkt> in that screen I think there are checkboxes you can use <space> on
[14:40] <pkt> still this is all from memory, I don't have it in front of me :)
[14:47] <MySystem> hello is there a way in kubuntu to run a cmd as root if sudo doesnt work tried su but without a set root password no chance
[14:48] <pkt> you can set a root password if it is really required
[14:48] <pkt> sudo passwd root
[14:48] <pkt> but can't you do what you want with something like kdesudo?
[14:50] <MySystem> the workaround with sudo passwd root is an idea but kdesudo sounds better will try this
[14:50] <pkt> MySystem: you can also do sudo -s
[14:51] <pkt> this will give you a root shell
[14:51] <pkt> hopefully this way there won't be any need for enabling the root account
[14:52] <genii-around> !root
[14:53] <lordievader> Hehe, nice comment ubottu.
[14:53] <thelionroars> sudo make me a sandwich
[14:54] <genii-around> thelionroars: You've been watching xkcd too long ;-)
[14:54] <thelionroars> you know it ;)
[14:54] <lordievader> Xkcd is great :)
[14:58] <MySystem> kdesudo works perfekt
[14:59] <pkt> great :)
[14:59] <pkt> In Linux there are always so many ways to solve a problem :)
[15:00] <Solak> hmm, grey screen and nothing at boot.
[15:00] <Solak> but that was to be expected...
[15:00] <pkt> yes, you should go to text mode
[15:01] <MySystem> yes pkt this is one of the reasons why i love it
[15:01] <Solak> nvidia-common is installed, so is libkwinactivenvidiahack4
[15:01] <pkt> (recovery mode)
[15:01] <pkt> and see what is happening there
[15:02] <pkt> anyway I have to go now
[15:02] <pkt> see you :)
[16:46] <Riddell> beta 2 candidate image testers needed, join us in #kubuntu-devel
[16:55] <stefano_> ciao a tutti
[17:01] <Daskreech> !it
[17:13] <Solak> BluesKaj: ping?
[17:17] <BluesKaj> Solak, yes ?
[17:19] <Solak> BluesKaj: I found the nvidia-current drivers you mentioned earlier, but I wonder what I'm missing: it works, but only at 1024x768 (monitor is 1920x1080).
[17:19] <Solak> BluesKaj: do you have an idea what that could be?
[17:20] <Solak> except for that, and the fact that the mouse hides while moving, everything works good.
[17:20] <Solak> I expected more trouble, even to get X working at all.
[17:22] <Daskreech> What video card?
[17:23] <Solak> Daskreech: nVidia Geforce gtx 550 ti.
[17:23] <Daskreech> Hm didn't know there were issues with that
[17:28] <genii-around> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[17:28] <Solak> ah, I see two proprietary drivers in 'additional drivers'.
[17:31] <lordievader> Good evening
[17:31] <Solak> genii-around: thanks!
[17:31] <Solak> re lordievader
[17:32] <lordievader> Hey Solak, how is it going with your Linux adventure?
[17:33] <Solak> works better than expected, I only have to set the right resolution, mouse is sometimes invisible, and additional drivers fail to install.
[17:38] <BluesKaj> Solak, install the nvidia-current driver , sudo apt-get install nvidia-current , then reboot..the addtional drivers may not work
[17:39] <BluesKaj> ok ..gotta go for a while
[17:39] <c2tarun> hey, anyone done packet sniffing on kubuntu?
[17:40] <lordievader> c2tarun: You can do packet sniffing on almost any system. Wireshark is multi-platform.
[17:40] <c2tarun> I have three machines, all are connected to a wi-fi router. Is there anyway I can sniff all the packets going in and out from computer 2 from my laptop?
[17:41] <lordievader> c2tarun: If your wifi card from the laptop supports promiscious mode, then yes.
[17:42] <c2tarun> lordievader: I think I can sniff packets only if my lappy is server and all other PC's are accessing internet from my PC (I may be wrong I am a noob)
[17:43] <c2tarun> lordievader: and how can I check whether my wifi card supports promiscious mode or not?
[17:43] <lordievader> c2tarun: Nope, that is the beauty of wifi, you get all of the packages. Your NIC just disgards most of them.
[17:43] <lordievader> c2tarun: Google? Or simply try it.
[17:44] <c2tarun> lordievader: thanks :) installing wireshark now.
[17:45] <lordievader> c2tarun: You also need ettercap.
[17:46]  * c2tarun googling about ettercap
[17:46] <c2tarun> lordievader: BTW why do I need ettercap, is wireshark not enough?
[17:47] <lordievader> c2tarun: If you want to see the traffic of the other machines, no.
[17:47] <c2tarun> lordievader: then what can wireshark do?
[17:47] <lordievader> c2tarun: Sniff packages.
[17:48] <c2tarun> lordievader: so are you saying we can sniff something but to see them I need some other tool as well? its like I sniffed a lock but I dont have the key!!
[17:48] <lordievader> c2tarun: If you have the time I suggest watching a few Hak5 podcasts, they regularely discuss the topic: hak5.org
[17:49] <c2tarun> lordievader: I have been there, but couldn't find a post on packet sniffing. :(
[17:49] <c2tarun> going to look again
[17:49] <c2tarun> lordievader: if you have a bookmark, can you please share/
[17:49] <lordievader> c2tarun: Your NIC gets all the packages, however it discards anything that is not ment for that NIC. Wireshark does not see the discarded packages.
[17:50] <lordievader> c2tarun: I'll look some up.
[17:52] <lordievader> c2tarun: Haktip - ARP Cache, Haktip 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, 21, 23. http://hak5.org/category/episodes/haktip/page/2
[17:53] <c2tarun> lordievader: wow thanks a lot :)
[17:55] <lordievader> c2tarun: No problem, have fun.
[18:06] <thelionroars> <3 hak5
[18:17] <dark133> hallo))
[18:19] <lordievader> Hey dark133, how are you?
[18:20] <dark133> im fine... where are you from?
[18:20] <lordievader> dark133: I'd rather not say... if you really want to know you'll find a way, I'm sure.
[18:21] <dark133> фак я не спикаю по инглишу))
[18:23] <dark133> about what way speech?
[18:23] <lordievader> dark133: I'm sorry, what?
[18:25] <dark133> i`m don`t speak english)) mfk//
[18:26] <lordievader> dark133: Where are you from, there are quite a few localized kubuntu channels.
[18:26] <dark133> russia
[18:26] <lordievader> !ru | dark133
[18:27] <dark133> thanks)
[18:27] <jacob__> hello irc, I'm running kubuntu 12.04 (kde 4.8.5) and my mimetypes are messed up. I can't get dolphin to open an svg in inkscape despite what it says in the KEditFileType menu. Is there a quick solution to this?
[18:46] <valentin> HI YO WUT UP
[18:46] <valentin> Hi lordievader :)
[18:47] <lordievader> Hey valentin, you are happy!
[18:47] <valentin> lordievader : Indeed !
[18:47] <lordievader> valentin: How come?
[18:47] <valentin> lol
[18:47] <valentin> I just got my minecraft server set properly
[18:48] <lordievader> valentin: A house mate asked me about that recently... he did it on Windows though.
[18:48] <valentin> lordievader : What did he ask you about ?
[18:48] <lordievader> valentin: About a minecraft server.
[18:49] <valentin> lordievader : + It's rather bad to host a MC server (even all servers) on Windows, imo
[18:49] <valentin> lordievader : Yes but what ? xD
[18:49] <lordievader> valentin: He wanted to host one for a couple of friends, he asked if he should install Linux for it...
[18:50] <lordievader> valentin: Why do you think so?
[18:50] <valentin> lordievader : I see, I was just wondering if he was looking for a server to play on.
[18:51] <valentin> lordievader : I used to host on Windows, I wrote a launcher (cmd one) and it kept failing, it didn't work properly with Java env.
[18:51] <valentin> lordievader : Nothing better than using a good Minecraft.sh :D
[18:52] <lordievader> valentin: Anyhow, have fun with your server.
[18:53] <valentin> lordievader : Thanks, do you play it ?
[18:55] <lordievader> valentin: No. I got better things to do.
[18:56] <lordievader> valentin: :P
[18:56] <valentin> lordievader : better things... :P
[18:56] <valentin> lordievader : Well w.e people may say about minecraft, it still is an awesome game if you know some technics :)
[18:57] <valentin> lordievader : I and some friends added ComputerCraft, it's a programming mod (For example, you can code a password for a door using a virtual machine)
[18:57] <BluesKaj> new wireless keyboard and mouse in the system , plug 'n  play ..works right from the get go :)
[18:58] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Nice!
[19:00] <BluesKaj> lordievader, Microsoft wireless desktop 2000 , for 30 bucks , saved 20 ...even the vol ctrls work :)
[19:00] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Kind of ironic :P
[19:01] <BluesKaj> yeah
[19:01] <BluesKaj> my other wireless KB is also MS , worked well for 3yrs
[19:02] <BluesKaj> the mouse broke but the KB is fine , gonna put ti omn wife's pc
[19:03] <BluesKaj> have to check it out on W7 ..BBL
[19:15] <valentin> Y U NO SPEAL
[19:15] <valentin> SPEAK
[19:16] <lordievader> valentin: Whom?
[19:17] <valentin> ALL OF YA :(
[19:18] <lordievader> valentin: This is a support channel, not a community channel, check #kubuntu-offtopic for that.
[19:18] <Solak> BluesKaj: the nvidia-current was installed already, but one of the additional drivers worked. thanks.
[19:20] <valentin> I already went there lordievader
[19:24] <Solak> hmm, now adding the old disk to /etc/fstab...
[19:28] <lordievader> valentin: I do not see you there...
[19:29] <Solak> hmmm...: "OpenGL compositing (the default) has crashed KWin in the past."
[19:30] <Solak> and how do I know I have upgraded to a stable driver?
[19:32] <BluesKaj> Solak, so you're setting desktop effects in system settings ?
[19:32] <Solak> yes.
[19:33] <Solak> BluesKaj: is that the wrong way?
[19:33] <BluesKaj> no, it's the correct way
[19:34] <Solak> I get the message that i.e. the cube is not available, which I don't understand...
[19:35] <Solak> now it was set to xrender and I changed to opengl, hoping that would solve the problem...
[19:36] <BluesKaj> yes , Solak , that should ..OpenGL is the best setting
[19:37] <Solak> but what about this warning?
[19:37] <BluesKaj> try the cube animation now
[19:38] <Solak> does libkwinnvidiahack4 have to do with this?
[19:39] <Solak> and the other one, libkwinactivenvidiahack4?
[19:39] <BluesKaj> dunno
[19:41] <Solak> BluesKaj: heh, I don't see a cube, it flips :-)
[19:41] <BluesKaj> ctrl f11
[19:42] <genii-around> If you only have two desktops it will just be basically a flat sheet and not a cube
[19:42] <Solak> ah, true :)
[19:44] <BluesKaj> 4 minimum . I use 6 here
[19:44]  * Solak uses 8 normally.
[19:44] <Solak> but first I have to configure fstab to get access to the other harddisk...
[19:45] <Solak> because that contains the old system...
[19:53] <BluesKaj> Solak, it should show in dolphin places
[19:53] <BluesKaj> sudo blkid
[19:53] <Solak> ah, it does indeed...
[19:55] <BluesKaj> i haven't bothered with fstab , everything shows up , altho i have labelled them in partition manager
[19:55] <Solak> I only see sizes here...
[19:56] <BluesKaj> yeah , you can label them and the nakes will show up in "places"
[19:57] <BluesKaj> names
[20:20] <BluesKaj> !purekde
[20:34] <Guest10716> nickname gigi_ro_de
[20:49] <fuski> Čágo lidi
[23:36] <strahlemann> hello can somebody tell my why i cant find the skype package
[23:36] <strahlemann> at my own pc i installed it via package manager
[23:38] <tsimpson> skype is in the Canonical partner repository
[23:39] <tsimpson> !partner
[23:40] <strahlemann> a lots of thx


[10:53] <mup> Bug #1438102 changed: text alignment on dropdown buttons <ui> <ux> <MAAS:Fix Released by ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438102>
[11:23] <mup> Bug #1434257 changed: MAAS should set dnssec-validation to no in /etc/bind/named.conf.options <MAAS:Triaged> <maas (Ubuntu):Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1434257>
[11:23] <mup> Bug #1434257 changed: MAAS should set dnssec-validation to no in /etc/bind/named.conf.options <MAAS:Triaged> <maas (Ubuntu):Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1434257>
[12:35] <mup> Bug #1446625 was opened: package maas-region-controller 1.7.3+bzr3363-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned
[12:35] <mup> error exit status 1 <amd64> <apport-package> <need-duplicate-check> <third-party-packages> <vivid> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446625>
[13:02] <dimitern> rvba, blake_r, mpontillo, maas+juju interlock meeting?
[13:02] <rvba> dimitern: joining now…
[13:02] <blake_r> dimitern: on the way
[13:05] <mup> Bug #1446629 was opened: Node status transition events are logged at 'debug' level <MAAS:Fix Committed by rvb> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446629>
[13:27] <dimitern> rvba, you saide 1PM UTC tomorrow, right?
[13:27] <dimitern> said*
[13:28] <rvba> dimitern: I added the meeting at 4pm CET.  Happy to move it if you want me to.
[13:29] <dimitern> rvba, hmm I can't see it
[13:29] <dimitern> rvba, ok I've seen it on your calendar
[13:29] <dimitern> rvba, that's fine
[13:29] <rvba> dimitern: rarg, forgot to send the invites.  Done now.
[14:42] <mup> Bug #1446699 was opened: After upgrade to 15.04, unable to boot with maas installed running systemd <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446699>
[16:00] <mup> Bug #1443408 changed: Web UI ignores "Choose your image" and deploys some other image anyway <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443408>
[16:12] <mup> Bug #1443408 was opened: Web UI ignores "Choose your image" and deploys some other image anyway <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443408>
[16:18] <mup> Bug #1443408 changed: Web UI ignores "Choose your image" and deploys some other image anyway <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443408>
[16:21] <catbus2> newell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/curtin/+bug/1425264
[16:39] <catbus2> newell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10862264/
[18:27] <mup> Bug #1446795 was opened: 1.8beta3: Can't tell if power check worked or not <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446795>
[18:57] <mup> Bug #1446810 was opened: 1.8beta3: Too Many Open Files in maas.log <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446810>
[18:57] <mup> Bug #1446813 was opened: 1.8beta3: clusterd.log starts off with about 34MB of 0's <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446813>
[19:39] <mup> Bug #1446822 was opened: maas erase disk cannot be canceled <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446822>
[20:21] <mup> Bug #1446840 was opened: Internal server error saving the clusters interfaces <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446840>
[22:15] <mup> Bug #1446878 was opened: maas django app won't start "ImportError: No module named apt_pkg" <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446878>