[13:33] <stdin> it seems that card is just too new, you'll have to stick with the nv driver until nvidia decide to add support for it
[13:33] <Aranel> Lynoure: I looked their lists and they doesn't support 9600GT yet. Can I use any other driver ?
[13:34] <Aranel> stdin: thanks, how can I install nv? -and does it give 3d ?-
[13:35] <stdin> it's already installed (and you're probably using it now), but it's 2d only. you could try Nouveau, but I don't know if it works
[13:35] <myrtille> Hi :)
[13:35] <jpatrick> !hi | myrtille
[13:35] <ubotu> myrtille: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[13:35] <Aranel> stdin: ok, thanks. I'm using NVIDIA Binary Drivers
[13:36] <Lynoure> Aranel: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjM0Mw has a recent status on that.
[13:36] <Aranel> but i think if I edit my xorg driver line to 'nv' , it can work.
[13:36] <myrtille> I was wondering if somebody could explain me the uses for the different "bin"-folders. When would i install something into /bin, /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin
[13:36] <Aranel> Lynoure: yes, i know this link. They said "2-3 weeks" :/
[13:36] <Aranel> Lynoure: But the news is posted at February 21, 2008
[13:37] <root______> hello lynoure cm these
[13:37] <Lynoure> Aranel: If it is not on Nvidia page, it's clearly not done yet
[13:37] <Lynoure> Aranel: it has been just a bit over a week from Feb 21st
[13:37] <Aranel> Lynoure: is there any roadmap or new release date of NVIDIA ?
[13:37] <Lynoure> root______: cm? centimetre what?
[13:38] <Lynoure> Aranel: ask them. I am not paid by that company. Actually, I don't even support them with my money as their commitment to open source has not been very strong
[13:38] <Aranel> Lynoure: ok, thanks for support :)
[13:38] <root______> cm these
[13:41] <stdin> erm, try again jpatrick ;)
[13:41] <jpatrick> stdin: stupid irssi..
[13:45] <myrtille> I was wondering if somebody could explain me the uses for the different "bin"-folders. When would i install something into /bin, when /usr/bin, when /usr/local/bin .
[13:45] <nicolah> I don't know why but I have two battery applets in my system tray, how do I remove one ? thanks
[13:45] <zimon> myrtille: man hier
[13:46] <myrtille> thx
[13:46] <myrtille> æzimon
[13:46] <zimon> myrtille: in short, _you_ will only install in /usr/local/bin
[13:47] <nosrednaekim> nicolah» right click on one and remve it
[13:50] <warrend> hi
[13:50] <schmidder> HI
[13:50] <warrend> is someone using gutsy with kde 3.5.9?
[13:50] <jpatrick> warrend: I am
[13:51] <warrend> can someone say if flash works again and if gdebikde can install packages again?
[13:51] <Lynoure> myrtille: mostly that is tradition, and while it helps keeping systems neat, 'local' is not aften that local after all (see http://aplawrence.com/Opinion/religion.html for an opinion, if you wish)
[13:52] <warrend> jpatrick : can you install deb packages ?
[13:52] <nicolah> nosrednaekim: it's not right-clickable
[13:52] <nosrednaekim> nicolah» this is kde3 right?
[13:52] <jpatrick> warrend: hmm, I have no .deb packages to try it out on
[13:52] <warrend> ok :(
[13:52] <nosrednaekim> warrend» are those two things now broken for you in 3.5.8?
[13:53] <warrend> they wre yes
[13:53] <warrend> but i'm not on kubuntu now
[13:53] <nicolah> nosrednaekim: yes
[13:54] <nosrednaekim> nicolah» can you left click on them?
[13:55] <nicolah> no, it's kde for eeepc
[13:56] <nosrednaekim> nicolah» kubuntu?
[13:56] <nosrednaekim> probably Xandros
[13:56] <nicolah> xandros+kde I suppose
[13:56] <nicolah> (I hate this distro but right now it's the most suitable to eeepc hw)
[13:56] <nosrednaekim> in that case I really can't help you as I do not have an eepc
[13:57] <nosrednaekim> there is however #eeepc
[13:57] <nicolah> I'm asking there, thanks
[14:03] <nicolah> looks like totaly removing the panel and restarting did the trick
[14:04] <kreib> how to allow remote x login on 7.10 kde 4 , editing text files from command line?
[14:05] <jpatrick> !ssh | kreib
[14:05] <ubotu> kreib: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[14:06] <kreib> ssh ? is that the best? I want to access graphic desktop
[14:06] <jpatrick> maybe..
[14:06] <jpatrick> !vnc | kreib
[14:06] <ubotu> kreib: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[14:09] <Dragnslcr> kreib- you can either set up an SSH tunnel for VNC, or use a VNC server (I use x11vnc) and client (such as SSVNC) that has SSL support
[14:10] <kreib> ok thx | Dragnslcr
[14:11] <kreib> hehe
[14:11] <Juzam> I just installed the newest Kubuntu, but KDE doestn start. When I do "startx" it says "Fatal Error: No Screen Found" - What can I do?
[14:12] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» run the following command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[14:12] <nosrednaekim> in a terminal
[14:12] <Juzam> i tried it without the "-phig"
[14:13] <Juzam> But after i run through the whole thing, nothing changed
 newest kubuntu is in #kubuntu-kde4
[14:14] <Juzam> Well its the 7.10
[14:14] <Juzam> There is no KDE4, is there?
[14:14] <crocod> what video card you have
[14:15] <Juzam> GeForce 8800 GTS 512
[14:15] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» newest kubuntu doesn't mean kde4, no.... but is it 8.04, hardy?
[14:16] <Juzam> No it's 7.10 Gutsy, which I thought was the newest
[14:18] <nosrednaekim> ok
[14:19] <damien__> bonjour
[14:19] <nosrednaekim> did the liveCD work?
[14:19] <damien__> hello
[14:19] <damien__> i'm french
[14:19] <jpatrick> !fr | damien__
[14:19] <ubotu> damien__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:19] <Juzam> Nored: No same Problem
[14:19] <damien__> thank you ;-)
[14:20] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» so you installed off of the alternate installer?
[14:21] <Juzam> nosrednaekim: I did the eh textbased installation
[14:21] <Juzam> nosrednaekim: As the normal installation didn't work
[14:21] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» ok..... his could be troublesome... I suppose you really can't paste any of your log files.
[14:22] <Juzam> nosrednaekim: well don't think so
[14:22] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» actually, since you have a command line, you can install the officialnvidia drivers which may fix your problem
[14:22] <Juzam> nosrednaekim: Can I acess the logs from Windows?
[14:23] <nosrednaekim> run the following command "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"
[14:23] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» not very easily, no
[14:23] <Juzam> nosrednaekim: Do I need an Internetconnecttion?
[14:23] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» then run "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" find the place in it where it says: Driver "nv" and change it to: Driver "nvidia"
[14:23] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» yes
[14:24] <Juzam> nosrednaekim: well that's antoher problem, I don't have Intenet in Linux
[14:25] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» is it just ethernet?
[14:25] <Juzam> nosrednaekim: I have WLAN and there is a Problem with the driver
[14:26] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» no way you can get ethernet?
[14:26] <Juzam> nosrednaekim: Can I use an USB-Stick?
[14:27] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» you'd have to grab the .deb from somewhere... but yes.
[14:27] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» let me get you the link to the proper .deb
[14:27] <Juzam> nosrednaekim: Or can I put the driver on the linux-partition from Windows?
[14:28] <nosrednaekim> that would be more difficult.
[14:28] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» did you install amd64 or i386?
[14:28] <Juzam> nosrednaekim: i386
[14:28] <nosrednaekim> ok
[14:29] <nosrednaekim> http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/archive/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22/nvidia-glx-new_100.14.19+<IP_ADDRESS>-14.10_i386.deb
[14:29] <nosrednaekim> download that
[14:29] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» are you on the same computer that has linux?
[14:30] <Juzam> nosrednaekim: yep
[14:30] <Juzam> nosrednaekim:So I need to reboot all the time
[14:30] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» you don't have another one? its alot easier if you do.
[14:30] <nosrednaekim> but its ok if you don't
[14:32] <Juzam> I have only 30 minutes left right now, otherwise I could borrow a notebook
[14:32] <Juzam> Do I need: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_169.12.html ?
[14:32] <nosrednaekim> no....get the link I showed you above
[14:32] <Juzam> k got it
[14:32] <nosrednaekim> ok.. put it on your USB stick.
[14:33] <nosrednaekim> now, does this computer have a SATA hard drive or a PATA hard drive?
[14:33] <Juzam> SATA
[14:33] <przemo> kopk
[14:33] <nosrednaekim> just one?
[14:34] <przemo> no
[14:34] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» just one?
[14:34] <Juzam> 2
[14:34] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» ok. then use the following command in the order I say... write them down :)
[14:35] <nosrednaekim> "sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt"
[14:35] <Juzam> yep ill print em
[14:35] <goldensun> hello
[14:35] <goldensun> i've a question
[14:35] <Juzam> nosrednaekim> ALso have 1 PATA if that matters
[14:36] <goldensun> how do we know what driver is used for wifi connection?
[14:36] <goldensun> (sorry for my english :( )
[14:36] <nosrednaekim> sudo cp /mnt/nvidia-glx-new_100.14.19+<IP_ADDRESS>-14.10_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives" (tab can help with that command to complete the file name)
[14:36] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» doesn't really affect us
[14:37] <nosrednaekim> then...
[14:37] <Juzam> nosrednaekim> maybe i rename the file?
[14:37] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» uhh no, don't.... tab completion will work fine for you.
[14:39] <chetu> hello
[14:39] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» then, run "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-new_100.14.19+<IP_ADDRESS>-14.10_i386.deb"
[14:40] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» then edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf as I mentioned above.
[14:40] <nosrednaekim> and restart...
[14:41] <Juzam> nosrednaekim> didnt get the last thing
[14:41] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» ah.. ok...run "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" find the place in it where it says: Driver "nv" and change it to: Driver "nvidia"
[14:42] <myrtille> i'm having trouble installing a program (root): The Guide says to run ./configure to prepare the installation. Configure tells me that libXpm needs to be installed on the pc. But I checked and libXPm4 is already installed
[14:42] <myrtille> any idea how to resolve this problem?
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> myrtille» is there a libXPm4-dev package?
[14:43] <myrtille> yes, do i need that one to?
[14:43] <myrtille> +o
[14:43] <comp05> orhei
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> myrtille» and what app is this? it may be in the repositories...
[14:44] <nosrednaekim> myrtille» yes, for compiling you need the -dev packages as well
[14:44] <myrtille> it's actually called "root" and doesn't seem to be in the repositories
[14:44] <myrtille> thx @ nosrednaekim
[14:44] <nosrednaekim> what does "root" do?
[14:45] <myrtille> it's a scientific program for plotting and fitting data
[14:45] <myrtille> http://root.cern.ch/
[14:46] <Juzam> nosrednaekim> thanks a lot, I'm gonna try that
[14:47] <nosrednaekim> myrtille» ah..ok... just making sure its not dangerous...
[14:47] <nosrednaekim> Juzam» great.. tell me how it goes
[14:48] <myrtille> no it isn't dangerous, but it's a rather unlucky choice for a name. :p
[14:48] <nosrednaekim> hehe...... yeah :) ok..good luck.
[14:49] <nosrednaekim> !info root (hardy)
[14:49] <ubotu> Package root does not exist in hardy
[14:49] <nosrednaekim> oh well.
[14:56] <mixed> how  do you enable mp3 support on k3b?
[14:57] <jpatrick> mixed: install libk3b2-mp3
[14:57] <tekteen> I do not think there is a way
[14:57] <jpatrick> !info libk3b2-mp3
[14:57] <tekteen> ok
[14:57] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3 (source: k3b): The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-0ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 43 kB, installed size 116 kB
[14:58] <mixed> jpatrick, im installing it right now, let's see if it works on my distro
[15:00] <mrunagi> how do you change the theme in kubuntu
[15:00] <nosrednaekim> !themes
[15:00] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[15:00] <nosrednaekim> !changethemes
[15:00] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[15:00] <mixed> jpatrick, thank you, it worked!
[15:01] <jpatrick> mixed: :)
[15:11] <Abooda> shout out to all the peeps on Kubuntu out there ...
[15:11] <Abooda> but, uhm, has anybody here ever installed/used foreign language fonts on Kubuntu?
[15:11] <Abooda> I am having trouble with getting the Arabic language stuff to work
[15:12] <marco> I need to kill a process, but kill -9 pid seems not to work, any more powerful method?
[15:12] <marco> (no error is reported, but the process stays frozen and alive)
[15:13] <Abooda> ooh, I had that happen once
[15:13] <Abooda> there is some kind of sudo command you can use, I think
[15:13] <marco> Abooda: sudo killl -9 ;P ?
[15:14] <jackault> !kcron
[15:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kcron - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:14] <jackault> I'm having trouble with kcron, it runs tasks scheduled by root but not those by normal users
[15:15] <ere4si> jackault: looked at  man kcron?
[15:15] <mrunagi> sigh.......i dont get themese in kde.....
[15:15] <jackault> I'll check out the man, but I can't imagine what reason would prevent a normal user from executing a script that simply runs amarok when root can run it.
[15:16] <jackault> Man contains barely any info for kcron.
[15:16] <nuxil> jackault, yes i also have that issue.. if i make a new task for a user. it dosent executes at the time is suppose to. i smell a bug.
[15:17] <jackault> nuxil: Does it execute at all? If it's a bug, it's been there for a very long time
[15:17] <Pidginsoup> how do i install finch on Kubuntu?
[15:18] <nuxil> jackault, kcron starts up.. but it dosent do what it suppose to do for the users.. optional you can edit /etc/crontab
[15:18] <nuxil> and put your stuff in there
[15:18] <jussi01> Pidginsoup: either select and install it in adept, or sudo apt-get install finch
[15:19] <Pidginsoup> how do i start finch in Konsole just type "finch" ?
[15:19] <tekteen> sudo apt-get install finch
[15:19] <Pidginsoup> jussi01 ty btw
[15:19] <Pidginsoup> ty tekteen
[15:19] <nosrednaekim> Pidginsoup» probably
[15:19] <jussi01> Pidginsoup: i imagine so
[15:19] <tekteen> yes
[15:19] <tekteen> I know for a fact :-)
[15:19] <nuxil> jackault, you have cron running i guess ?
[15:20] <mrunagi> can someone explain to me the simplest way to find download and install window buttons and decorations?
[15:20] <mrunagi> not the window borders but inside the windows
[15:20] <nuxil> kde-looik.org
[15:20] <nuxil> *kde-look-org
[15:20] <nuxil> errr'
[15:21] <mrunagi> kde-look.org
[15:21] <mrunagi> which is where i am
[15:21] <nuxil> then make your own decor and theme :p
[15:21] <mrunagi> i wish i was better at asking questions
[15:22] <mrunagi> i dont understand how to install them in kde
[15:22] <mrunagi> in gnome its just in the themes window
[15:22] <mrunagi> in kde....it is non existant
[15:23] <nuxil> you find your theme|decor. open system settings --> Apparance and import the theme you downloaded
[15:23] <mrunagi> there is no import button for style
[15:24] <jackault> nuxil: I can't imagine that it's off. The one root task that is there runs perfectly everytime
[15:24] <jackault> Without me having to do anything else
[15:25] <jackault> Though I can't just have it running everything as root
[15:25] <nuxil> jackault, did you try to edit your crontab
[15:25] <nuxil> manualy
[15:26] <nuxil> and then restart cron
[15:26] <jackault> I'll try
[15:26] <nuxil> /etc/init.d/cron reload
[15:26] <mrunagi> nuxil: there is no import button for style in appearance
[15:26] <jackault> hey, I'm getting a permission denied on " can't open or create /var/run/crond.pid"
[15:26] <mrunagi> sudo jackault
[15:26] <mrunagi> kdesudo
[15:27] <jackault> Does cron for a user require sudo?
[15:27] <jackault> Even normal ones?
[15:27] <mrunagi> to restart it does
[15:27] <nuxil> mrunagi, no i know.. but for colors ther is.. if you want decor. you must google for someone who has made a decor and istall it from source or from a pack if your lucky
[15:27] <mrunagi> nuxil: so kde-look doesnt have styles?
[15:28] <nuxil> jackault, you need to sudo to edit its tabfile same goes for reloading.
[15:29] <jackault> Why can't it run things in intervals other than 5 minutes?
[15:29] <nuxil> mrunagi, i actually dont care about styles. try #kde or #kde-look if it exsists
[15:29] <nuxil> why would you?
[15:30] <jackault> I don't mean running the same task over and over but what if I want to run a task at 11:59 instead of 12 or 11:55 ?
[15:30] <mrunagi> is it really so far fetched to want to customize the way youre OS looks?
[15:30] <Dragnslcr> Yes, cron works on intervals of one minute
[15:31] <nuxil> Dragnslcr, oh? when did it support that?
[15:32] <Dragnslcr> nuxil- as long as I can remember. Several years, at least
[15:32] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» you can... look in the package manager for style packages
[15:32] <nuxil> afik it only works with 5 min minimum
[15:32] <nuxil> anacron might work min to min
[15:33] <nuxil> but not sure about it.
[15:33] <ere4si> man cron says it wakes every min
[15:37] <nosrednaekim> but does kcron use cron or anacron?
[15:38] <tekteen> cron
[15:38] <nuxil> it writes to crontab so its cron
[15:38] <tekteen> not anacron
[15:38] <nosrednaekim> ok
[15:38] <nuxil> hey check your cron.allow and *.deny file
[15:38] <dbmoodb> Reading package lists... Done
[15:38] <dbmoodb> Segmentation faulty tree... 0%
[15:38] <dbmoodb> ...mm
[15:39] <dbmoodb> anyone got a fix
[15:40] <nosrednaekim> dbmoodb» thats the exact error message?
[15:40] <dbmoodb> apt-get upgrade returns that
[15:40] <nosrednaekim> dbmoodb» run "sudo apt-get update"
[15:40] <dbmoodb> i did
[15:40] <nosrednaekim> same error?
[15:41] <dbmoodb> no
[15:41] <dbmoodb> no errro
[15:41] <dbmoodb> r
[15:42] <nosrednaekim> dbmoodb» ok, try running "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade"
[15:42] <dbmoodb> wrong syntax ?
[15:43] <nosrednaekim> did that not work?
[15:43] <nosrednaekim> (it seems apt-get install may be broken)
[15:43] <dbmoodb> FSCK
[15:43] <nosrednaekim> did aptitude safe-upgrade work?
[15:43] <dbmoodb> now what ?
[15:47] <theunixgeek> How do I get Konqueror to stop opening HTML links in new windows? KDE 4.
[15:48] <nosrednaekim> theunixgeek» yeah... there is a setting for that... one second
[15:48] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks :)
[15:49] <theunixgeek> :)
[15:49] <theunixgeek> nosrednaekim: thank you so much I've been searching for so long!
[15:49] <nosrednaekim> theunixgeek» settings->general-> check "open in new tab instead of new window"
[15:49] <theunixgeek> nosrednaekim: thank you
[15:50] <nosrednaekim> hey BluesKaj
[15:50] <snarkster> good morning fellow kubuntu users
[15:51] <nosrednaekim> morning snarkster
[15:51] <theunixgeek> nosrednaekim: that's not exactly what I mean
[15:51] <theunixgeek> t
[15:51] <theunixgeek> nosrednaekim: whenever I click a link, first it downloads it, and then it opens it.
[15:51] <theunixgeek> nosrednaekim: but I don't want Konqueror to keep downloading HTML links
[15:52] <nosrednaekim> oh.... now thats weird.... lets go over to #kubuntu-kde4
[15:53] <nuxil> anyone tried freevo ?'
[15:53] <nuxil> !freevo
[15:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freevo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:57] <BluesKaj> nuxil: don't think freevo is available for the later distros
[16:02] <nuxil> http://doc.freevo.org/FreevoAptUbuntu
[16:02] <nuxil> :)
[16:03] <BluesKaj> nuxil:  not available in the repos that is ...never tried it, tvtime works on my ati tvwonder protvtuner card.
[16:04] <BluesKaj> I don't see my card in their supported list
[16:05] <nuxil> BluesKaj, ok.. i thought about installing mythtv again on this system. but since i only be using it for video and audio i dont need mythtv
[16:05]  * nuxil got a pvr500 card with 2 tuners on..
[16:05] <nuxil> who wants to buy it :p
[16:07] <nuxil> does your card use v4l driver ?
[16:08] <nuxil> @ BluesKaj,
[16:08] <_Angelus_> guys is compiz package broken  ? :S
[16:08] <nosrednaekim> _Angelus_» not that I know of
[16:09] <_Angelus_> when i try to install im getting a "BREAK INSTALL"
[16:09] <BluesKaj> nuxil: no need for the @ ,nicks are colour highlighted in this client if the nick is spelled correctly
[16:09] <_Angelus_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:09] <_Angelus_>   compiz: Depends: compiz-gnome but it is not going to be installed
[16:09] <_Angelus_>           Depends: compiz-fusion-plugins-extra (>= 0.5.2+git20070917) but it is not going to be installed
[16:09] <_Angelus_> E: Broken packages
[16:09] <nosrednaekim> whats it breaking?
[16:10] <nosrednaekim> _Angelus_» you need to have universe repository enabled
[16:10] <nosrednaekim> _Angelus_» besides, you don't need compiz-gnome
[16:10] <nosrednaekim> get compiz-kde
[16:10] <BluesKaj> nuxil: yes
[16:11] <_Angelus_> nosrednaekim: its a dependency
[16:12] <nosrednaekim> _Angelus_» and?
[16:12] <nuxil> Crap.. freevo installed fine.. but crashes on startup
[16:14] <BluesKaj> nuxil, open freevo from konsole and paste the error output in pastebin
[16:15] <nuxil> http://pastebin.ca/924662
[16:17] <nuxil> premission errors
[16:20] <Airian> !purekde
[16:20] <ubotu> purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[16:20] <Airian> and thanks Kubuntu team for the bot! sooooo useful.
[16:22] <nosrednaekim> !botsnack
[16:23] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[16:23] <_Angelus_> man somebody fixes godamn compiz
[16:23] <_Angelus_> the package is broken
[16:25] <nuxil> _Angelus_, try install the source code
[16:29] <crxyem> does 7.10 have an alternate-cd for LVM partitioning on install ?
[16:29] <nosrednaekim> crxyem» yes
[16:30] <crxyem> sweet I just found it actually. there didn't seem to be a direct link from the download page
[16:38] <EnginA> is there mini kubuntu cd which I can boot on a box to install the rest from net ?
[16:38] <EnginA> pxe install is cumbersome
[16:41] <WaltzingAlong> EnginA: yes
[16:42] <WaltzingAlong> or something close anyway
[16:42] <EnginA> which is
[16:43] <jani> hi
[16:43] <jani> Why can i not use Adept Installer/package manager? all options are grey and i can not choose anything?
[16:44] <jani> (just uninstall programs)
[16:44] <EnginA> jani, probably you are not running it as super user, don't know
[16:44] <EnginA> WaltzingAlong, ping
[16:44] <WaltzingAlong> looking for the link
[16:44] <nosrednaekim> jani» are you running it as kdesudo?
[16:44] <jani> i am only user on this computer.
[16:45] <jani> i just choose add/remove programs from the K-menu
[16:45] <WaltzingAlong> EnginA: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KubuntuNetboot
[16:46] <EnginA> WaltzingAlong, wow, thanks!
[16:46] <EnginA> didn't see this one on google
[16:46] <jani> help?
[16:47] <WaltzingAlong> jani: alt+f2         type                  kdesu adept_manager                               what happens?
[16:47] <nosrednaekim> jani» try using adept_manager.... its in the menu as well
[16:48] <jani> thanks... it opened a new screen where i could chose fetch updates
[16:49] <jani> but i got this message in Shell window: Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-jani" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.     is there some problem?
[16:50] <jani> sorry, but i am first time user of linux
[16:50] <skaidrius> does anybody had run line6 toneport on (k)ubuntu?
[16:51] <mrunagi> does *ubuntu have some sort of sign scrolling software that i can use a plasma tv as a sign?
[16:51] <jani> i got 2 harddrives on my computer, but i get message "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000" when i try to get on the other paritition. what is wrong?
[16:51] <mrunagi> ntfs jani?
[16:55] <jani> what should i write in console to install those most common codecs like xvid and divx?
[16:55] <Arwen> jani, depends, what do kind of codecs?
[16:55] <Arwen> what kind of codecs*
[16:57] <mrunagi> how can i reset my kubuntu theme to default including firefox
[16:57] <nosrednaekim> firefox is GTK,so thats not going to work very well
[16:57] <Arwen> mrunagi, you could delete ~/.kde
[16:57] <Arwen> but, well...
[17:07] <spiroo> Is it possible to have dual-boot without the fucking grub?
[17:07] <beautifulsnow> Yes
[17:08] <jussi01> !ohmy
[17:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:08] <spiroo> When grub/kubuntu fucked up I could not start Windows :P
[17:08] <spiroo> sorry.
[17:08] <beautifulsnow> That's not too hard to fix
[17:08] <spiroo> I just have a hard day. I had to fix a lot of things because I do not have a Live CD
[17:08] <spiroo> Well, HOW?
[17:08] <jussi01> !grub
[17:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:09] <beautifulsnow> Yeah that stinks, I'm on the same boot as you. but the information you are looking for is widely available online
[17:09] <beautifulsnow> *boat not boot ;p
[17:10] <camserver> im having problems with video captured by my 00:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05) card...........its scrambled........at least in kopete.......can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[17:10] <spiroo> What are I looking for then?
[17:10] <jussi01> spiroo: see the links from ubotu
[17:11] <camserver> !conexant
[17:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about conexant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:11] <spiroo> yes, but I do not find any information in there
[17:11] <jussi01> spiroo: follow the lost grub after windows one, that should fix it for you
[17:12] <spiroo> Absolutely wonderful, no useful information at all
[17:12] <spiroo> I have not lost grub.
[17:12] <beautifulsnow> >_> You just need to edit grub with the correct Windows point
[17:13] <jussi01> spiroo: I know. but that basically reinstalls grub, which should sort it for you
[17:13] <spiroo> BUT, I Cannot boot the OS at ALL.
[17:13] <spiroo> And I do not had any Live CD.
[17:13] <spiroo> NOW I fixed it from another PC.
[17:13] <spiroo> I just do not want it to happen again.
[17:14] <spiroo> Quite hard to reinstall grub if it fails, and no OS boots and no Fucking Live CD :D
[17:14] <mrunagi> does anyone have experience with conexant cards or video in general?
[17:14] <munk_> what is the channel for wine support?
[17:14] <beautifulsnow> #winehq
[17:14] <jussi01> spiroo: please watch you language
[17:14] <munk_> beautifulsnow, thank you
[17:14] <spiroo> sorry, just so mad after this day.
[17:15] <beautifulsnow> Well spiro, it doesn't put us in the mood to help you if you're like that :( It's not *our* fault you don't have a liveCD, but anyway
[17:16] <spiroo> No, but it would help if I could do anything. If grub fails, the whole computer fail.
[17:16] <beautifulsnow> Not if you have a liveCD :)
[17:16] <spiroo> But if you dont
[17:16] <beautifulsnow> You could even boot from Windows CD into recover mode, and type /fixmbr
[17:16] <spiroo> It should not be a must to have a LiveCD to fix it.
[17:16] <nuxil> does grub fail on stage1 or stage 2?
[17:17] <spiroo> stage 1 i guess.
[17:17] <Arwen> spiroo, that's not a Linux-specific problem by the way...
[17:17] <spiroo> It says error 2
[17:17] <beautifulsnow> Exactly, arwen
[17:17] <Arwen> if you nuke your MBR with Windows, you're equally screwed
[17:17] <spiroo> I have not nuked my MBR.
[17:17] <Arwen> spiroo, grub error 2 is a Stage 2 errir
[17:17] <Arwen> it translates to "Selected disk doesn't exist"
[17:17] <beautifulsnow> Not the master, but you have a few boot records misconfigured
[17:18] <spiroo> I do not know which error which is what. I jsut know it does not work.
[17:18] <spiroo> No everyone worked correct.
[17:18] <spiroo> grub could not handle, when I resized the Kubuntu/Linux core partition thats all.
[17:18] <beautifulsnow> Oh.
[17:19] <nuxil> spiroo, do you get up the grub loader ? but fails when you select a Os ?
[17:19] <spiroo> I got grub loader, but it says error 2 before I can select any OS.
[17:19] <beautifulsnow> He resized the kubuntu partition. Sounds like the culprit (?)
[17:19] <beautifulsnow> !logitech>beautifulsnow
[17:20] <spiroo> Now I managed to reinstall the whole system though, but would prefer not to. This is not the first time grub mess around.
[17:20] <jussi01> !msgthebot
[17:20] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[17:20]  * beautifulsnow nods and thanks jussi01 ^_^ Now I know
[17:20] <jussi01> :)
[17:21] <nuxil> spiroo, you should get a live cd or dl supergrub cd to fix your problem
[17:21] <spiroo> I think the grub is not very dynamic, hope it going to be better. I should not be dependent on the CD.
[17:21] <beautifulsnow> xD
[17:22] <nuxil> LOL
[17:22] <nuxil> spiroo, you should learn setting upi your system better :p
[17:22] <spiroo> Same with OS, if I screw up I cannot do anything.  Works perfect most of the time.
[17:23] <spiroo> Just when I do things like resizing partiions it just dont work anymore.
[17:23] <beautifulsnow> angelus_: means it didn't download correctly and you should attempt to redownload
[17:23] <nuxil> well this is not one if the time is does. is it
[17:23] <angelus_> beautifulsnow: i re-attampted...
[17:23] <mrunagi>  im having problems with video captured by my 00:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05) card...........its scrambled........at least in kopete.......can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[17:23] <spiroo> nuxil: Well, how should I configure my system then? I have Kubuntu 7.10 and Windows Vista installed.
[17:24] <beautifulsnow> Spiroo, a boot loader points to a particular point in your disk that will boot the OS. Im thinking when you resize the partition, it is messing with that point
[17:25] <spiroo> I see, but would it not be better if it search on the whole disk for boot loader wherever it is, or the boot loader search for the point.
[17:25] <spiroo> Make it dynamic as I say. Now it is dependent on the specific points on the harddrive.
[17:25] <nuxil> lol
[17:25]  * beautifulsnow is googling but could not find a solution yet: Usually when I install *buntu, my Logitech mouse Media Play buttons work... but this time it didn't. I would like some suggestions on things to try to make them work. Thanks :)
[17:25] <llutz> spiroo: make a feature-request to grub -authors
[17:26] <jussi01> spiroo: please file a bug. this is a support channel, we can help you fix your issues as they stand.
[17:26] <jussi01> beautifulsnow: btnx :)
[17:26] <beautifulsnow> jussi01: About...? ^^
[17:26] <nuxil> spiroo, how do mean thats posseple to make it dynamicly ? grub is not some win fs with dynamiclay resizing-- grub sits on a small part of the hd.
[17:26] <jussi01> beautifulsnow: your logitec issue - google btnx :)
[17:27] <Bizzy> hey, just installed kubuntu server. but only the cdrom source is in the sources.list. how do i get the online sources in there?
[17:27] <spiroo> I understand you guys just want to help. Well sometimes you find smart solutions, but I guess grub has to be upgraded. Well except this, grub works well.
[17:27] <nuxil> mbr
[17:27] <beautifulsnow> If you reconfigure grub again it will work ok
[17:27] <spiroo> I know what MBR is, but as far as I know. MBR cannot load Kubuntu?
[17:27] <nuxil> spiroo, dont blame grub to be faulty. when you have messed up your system by resizing partitions
[17:28] <spiroo> Yes I know, maybe grub could update itself if it fails :D
[17:28] <beautifulsnow> mbr can load ubuntu, however since you are dual booting, mbr loads grub which in turns loads whichever OS you need at the time.
[17:28] <beautifulsnow> spiroo that could be considered a security risk, no?
[17:28] <spiroo> I did not mess up, just moved data on the HDD. Grub could not handle it, thats all.
[17:29] <spiroo> Why should it be a security risk?
[17:29] <beautifulsnow> In other words: grub was not told that things had changed. It needs to be told the new boot point
[17:29] <nuxil> exactly.. grub is not a mind reader
[17:29] <spiroo> Yes, but if it thinks for itself instead :D If it cannot found the OS, or config does not work, It just update grub :D
[17:30] <beautifulsnow> heck, tell windows to resize the partition numerous times, install a diferent OS on top, and see if it can handle it ;)
[17:30] <jussi01> spiroo: as I already mentioned, this is a support channel. please file a bug for feature requests.
[17:30] <spiroo> :D
[17:30] <spiroo> yes, sorry. Will do.
[17:30] <mrunagi>  im having problems with video captured by my 00:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05) card...........its scrambled........at least in kopete.......can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[17:30] <spiroo> anyway it works now.
[17:30] <nuxil> spiroo, you can update grub 10000 times if you want to.. but that wount help if it dosent know which disk to load
[17:32] <spiroo> BTW, not sure if this is right channel. Maybe kubuntu-kde4 is. I wondering if Kaffeine is developed for KDE4 or some other good videoplayer.
[17:32] <nuxil> spiroo, my suggestion is to dl supergrub
[17:32] <spiroo> okay :)
[17:32] <nuxil> spiroo, is can scan for kernels
[17:32] <nuxil> and let you boot up, so you can fix your grub
[17:32] <llutz> nuxil: learing to use grub-shell would help too
[17:32] <llutz> learning
[17:32] <nuxil> llutz, yea thats a good idea too
[17:33] <spiroo> okay, so if grub fails I can fix it manually in the boot loading?
[17:33] <nuxil> to some degree yes
[17:33] <llutz> spiroo: in most cases, yes
[17:33] <nuxil> press e
[17:33] <spiroo> allright
[17:34] <llutz> spiroo: read this for further help http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/
[17:35] <spiroo> llutz: Thanks
[17:39] <mrunagi> on my desktop in add/remove all packages are greyed out.......how can i fix this
[17:40] <nuxil> heh. never used that tool. i stick to adept and cli :p
[17:41] <mrunagi> i venture to guess sudo apt-get install is going to tell me that there is no install candidate
[17:41] <jussi01> mrunagi: how are you starting it? from the kmenu or have you made a shortcut elsewhere?
[17:41] <mrunagi> kmenu
[17:42] <jussi01> mrunagi: does adept work?
[17:42] <nuxil> why you use adept_installer and not adept ?
[17:42] <mrunagi> i dont understand the question
[17:42] <jussi01> mrunagi: go to kmenu-system-adept
[17:42] <jussi01> see if that works
[17:43] <BluesKaj> adept "is" adept installer
[17:44] <camserver> i dont really understand kmenu system adept
[17:44] <camserver> hang on
[17:44] <jussi01> camserver: it wasnt aimed at you
[17:44] <camserver> <-----------mrunagi
[17:44] <nuxil> BluesKaj, adept_installer != adept. tho both uses apt "code" afik.
[17:44] <nuxil> thise tools that suppose to make life "easyer" sucks big time and have a bad happid of screwing things up :p
[17:45] <jussi01> camserver: ahh ok
[17:45] <BluesKaj> yup, apt uses adept as a gui front end so to speak
[17:45] <camserver> neither one works
[17:45] <camserver> whats the cli for reloading
[17:46] <BluesKaj> one can more easily configure the repos on adept if not comfortable with editing sources.list
[17:46] <camserver> im not a new user ;)
[17:46] <jussi01> camserver: do they give an error when you start them?
[17:47] <camserver> lemme look
[17:47] <beautifulsnow> Sigh. I guess Im reinstalling Ubuntu again just so my mouse buttons work >_> lol
[17:47] <jussi01> beautifulsnow: btnx didnt help?
[17:47] <nuxil> ehh ?
[17:47] <camserver> oh ok theyre commented out because i failed to verify internet on install
[17:48] <jussi01> there we are...
[17:48] <nuxil> beautifulsnow, why do you do that,, is probealy just some settings you messed up
[17:48] <camserver> how can i reload my sources.list
[17:48] <nuxil> apt-get update
[17:48] <mrunagi> ok brb
[17:48] <BluesKaj> beautifulsnow:  have you tried fixing the mouse buttons in system settings/keyboard&mouse
[17:49] <BluesKaj> camserver , sudo apt-get update
[17:49] <mrunagi> is it normal to run for 29minuts?
[17:49] <beautifulsnow> jussi01: btnx...? I thought when you wrote it a while back, that you had just mispelled t.n.x! lol
[17:49] <beautifulsnow> Ill google it now :D
[17:49] <beautifulsnow> Nuxil: I haven't changed anything after the reinstall
[17:49] <beautifulsnow> Other than install Pidgin and Firefox ofcourse :')
[17:49] <nuxil> beautifulsnow, if you got extra buttons you want to access. use xbindkeys :)
[17:51] <jussi01> beautifulsnow: its a config tool for logitech mice. you may need to compile it though
[17:51]  * nuxil go a logitech media mouse
[17:51]  * beautifulsnow is confused now :P Which do you suggest I use, btnx or xbindkeys?  And BluesKaj, when I push the volume up button to assign it to Volume Up, it doesn't do anything, doesn't detect it :P
[17:52] <nuxil> xbindkeys
[17:52] <nuxil> http://pastebin.ca/924745 look at the top of my script.. i tried to explain
[17:54] <beautifulsnow> Looks good
[17:54] <beautifulsnow> But it's amarok specifig?
[17:54] <beautifulsnow> *specific
[17:54] <BluesKaj> beautifulsnow:  I think the vol buttons on the KB are tied to the KB driver for your KB which you might find in the drop down dialog in system settings/regional&laguage/keyboard layout/keyboard model
[17:54] <beautifulsnow> BluesKaj: it's a mouse ^_^
[17:55] <BluesKaj> oops sorry :)
[17:55] <nuxil> beautifulsnow, just look that top. you edit .xbindkeys the way you want it to behave'
[17:56] <Dragnslcr> You might also try imwheel. It works well for me for the side buttons on my mouse
[17:56] <nuxil> beautifulsnow,  exaple my button 17 starts amarok and plays a song..
[17:56] <nuxil> "/usr/bin/mediamouse start"
[17:56] <nuxil> b:17 + Release
[17:57] <nuxil> you can about make it do anything
[17:58]  * beautifulsnow is reading the file and trying to make sense of it ^^
[17:58] <beautifulsnow> Thanks :)
[17:58] <jussi01> beautifulsnow: btnx is graphical if you prefer ;)
[17:58] <beautifulsnow> Thaaaaaaat's probably a good idea :P
[17:58] <nuxil> hehe
[17:58] <nuxil> gui whore :P
[17:59] <beautifulsnow> Im not hehe
[17:59] <beautifulsnow> I just don't like dealing with hardware
[17:59] <beautifulsnow> My other computer seems to have a busted fan, but sometimes it works fine,... I power it on, and run away from it afraid it will go kaboom LOL
[18:00] <camserver_> if i change a pci capture card from one to another do i have to recompile my kernel"/
[18:00] <beautifulsnow> But if it's not hardware related, you find me working it in a console ;p
[18:00] <davide84> hi, how to enable automount of usb driver?
[18:01] <nuxil> beautifulsnow, type xev in cli
[18:01] <nuxil> put your mouse on the square
[18:01] <nuxil> and press your buttons
[18:01] <nuxil> does it output anything in cli ?
[18:01] <beautifulsnow> xev in cli..?
[18:02] <nuxil> cli or concole or what ever you want to call it
[18:02] <beautifulsnow> oh ^_^
[18:02] <camserver_> !recompile
[18:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recompile - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:02] <nuxil> command line interface
[18:02] <camserver_> !kernel
[18:02] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[18:02] <davide84> hi and sorry for my bas english, i have a problem with usb pen drive
[18:02] <bin4ry> hey together
[18:02] <bin4ry> some1 can help me out with nfs?
[18:03] <nuxil> bin4ry, mount -t ntfs-3g /disk /path
[18:03] <dimon_> 1
[18:03] <nuxil> might want to use -o force to
[18:03] <davide84> the automount don't start automatically?
[18:03] <beautifulsnow> bin4ry: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=13V&q=automount+ntfs+partitions+at+boot+&btnG=Search
[18:03] <bin4ry> well the problem is
[18:03] <nuxil> *err., i read nfs as ntfs :p
[18:03] <bin4ry> the ordner i like tzo share is one a fat32 partition
[18:04] <bin4ry> i can mount it on the client but whern i try to access it, i can't
[18:04] <bin4ry> there are not enouugh permissions
[18:04] <bin4ry> can't change it with  sudo chmod
[18:04] <beautifulsnow> nuxil: nothing comes on console when I push the media buttons,  oopsy ;)
[18:04] <camserver_> does ubuntu automatically update the kernel for new pci cards?
[18:04] <nuxil> beautifulsnow, yea thats opsy
[18:05] <beautifulsnow> camserver_ et all, that's actually a good question, does Ubuntu scan hardware each boot?
[18:05] <nuxil> beautifulsnow, try do what wrote at the 40 first lines of the script
[18:05]  * beautifulsnow nods
[18:05] <nuxil> *38 first lines
[18:07] <nuxil> my mouse got 14 buttons :D
[18:08] <beautifulsnow> holy...
[18:09] <nuxil> beautifulsnow, if you do edit xorg.conf. you must restart X
[18:10] <nuxil> but i guess you already know that
[18:10] <beautifulsnow> Yeah ^^
[18:11] <davide84> hy, How to restore the automoutn of usb driver if this don't work?thanks
[18:12] <nuxil> !hal
[18:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:12] <nuxil> !hald
[18:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:12] <camserver_> does ubuntu automatically update the kernel for new pci cards?
[18:12] <nuxil> check hal
[18:12] <Level15> anyone knows a channel for regexp help?
[18:12] <Arwen> camserver_, automatically update the kernel for new pci cards? what's that mean?
[18:13] <nuxil> Level15, #bash perhaps
[18:13] <Level15> nuxil: will try
[18:13] <davide84> !hal
[18:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:13] <BluesKaj> !info Hardware Abstraction Layer
[18:13] <ubotu> Package hardware does not exist in gutsy
[18:13] <BluesKaj> !HAL
[18:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:14] <BluesKaj> ridiculous , that there's no script for hal in the bot
[18:14] <jussi01> BluesKaj: suggest one then. ;)
[18:18] <BluesKaj> jussi01:  here :) : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_abstraction_layer  , even an informative URL like this one would help.
[18:20] <sveny> Hallo Leute!
[18:20] <sveny> kann mir jemand ein bisschen helfen?
[18:20] <llutz> !de | sveny
[18:20] <ubotu> sveny: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:20] <jussi01> BluesKaj: query ubotu then do !hal is <message you think should be here>
[18:21] <sveny> Thanks..
[18:21] <jussi01> and th ops will et it and make a decision on it/add it :)
[18:24]  * nuxil enjoys his cold Carlsberg beer ;D
[18:25]  * siofwolves enjoys a sip or two of Strongbow ;)
[18:25] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: we got hal now, thanks :))
[18:26] <BluesKaj> cool Tm_T :)
[18:26] <nuxil> try it
[18:26] <BluesKaj> nuxil:  go ahead
[18:26] <nuxil> !hal
[18:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:26] <nuxil> LOL
[18:26] <BluesKaj> hehe
[18:27] <nuxil> yea, Tm_T is right. they got it.. we dont ;p
[18:27] <Tm_T> !hal
[18:27] <ubotu> hal is for an informative description of the Hardware Abstraction Layer , go to this site : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_abstraction_la~yer
[18:28] <Tm_T> ;)
[18:29] <BluesKaj> oops Tm_T , that line should be edited to take out the "is" ...not necessary
[18:30] <nuxil> wouldnt that be wrong gramma?
[18:31] <jussi01> !hal
[18:31] <ubotu> For an informative description of the Hardware Abstraction Layer , go to this site : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_abstraction_la~yer
[18:31] <BluesKaj> Tm_T:  that url is incorrect , there's no "la~yer"
[18:31] <Tm_T> yup
[18:32] <joh6nn> KNetworkManger suddenly stopped recognizing wireless networks on me; anyone have any guesses?
[18:32] <BluesKaj> it's layer
[18:33] <jussi01> fixed :)
[18:33] <nuxil> joh6nn, iwlist ethX scan does it show up anything =
[18:34] <nuxil> "iwlist ethX scan"
[18:34] <joh6nn> nuxil: yep; i'm connected right now using wireless.  but i had to do it manually; knetworkmanager still isn't recognizing anything
[18:35] <nuxil> sorry.. cant help you with gui apps. i have no idea how they work.
[18:36]  * nuxil uses iwconfig
[18:37] <joh6nn> nuxil: yeah, that's what i used to manually connect.  knetworkmanager is just a nice little gui applet that shows your network status, and provides a front end to everything
[18:37] <BluesKaj> !hal
[18:37] <ubotu> For an informative description of the Hardware Abstraction Layer , go to this site : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_abstraction_layer
[18:37] <joh6nn> BluesKaj: that aimed at me?
[18:37] <nuxil> they are testing
[18:37] <joh6nn> ah
[18:38] <BluesKaj> joh6nn: no we
[18:38] <jussi01> BluesKaj: please use query ;)
[18:38] <BluesKaj> were test the botscript
[18:38] <BluesKaj> gotta make sure it works in the chat text , jussi01 :)
[18:42] <Tm_T> root________: are we rooted now?
[18:43] <nuxil> a rooter on irc
[18:44] <nuxil> stupid
[18:44] <camserver_> arwen.........i had a conexant capture card that doesnt seem to work with ubuntu.......i replaced it with another card that looks different but lspci is reporting the same chipset.......is it really the same chipset or do i need to recompile the kernel with new hardware
[18:48] <nuxil> why not set kick on all root users
[18:48] <jpatrick> +b *!?=root@*
[18:48] <Tm_T> nuxil: nah
[18:49] <sam64> is there a way to remove multi-spaces in Open Office?
[18:52] <Tm_T> jpatrick: wouldn't be smart :)
[18:53] <jpatrick> Tm_T: :)
[18:56] <joh6nn> bah
[18:56] <joh6nn> anyone have any experience with networkmanager?  i'm trying to figure out why mine's not seeing wireless networks, and i don't understand the things i'm finding on google
[18:56] <astro1bill> I have added a second hard drive to my kubuntu system.  It was formatted fat32.  How can I erase it and put linux partion on it?
[18:57] <darkraiser> hello everyone
[18:57] <darkraiser> anyone know why i cant play music/>
[18:57] <joh6nn> darkraiser: mp3?
[18:58] <BluesKaj> nuxil:  that rooter guy is in here with the underscore quite often ... guess he thinks the underscore protects him
[18:58] <joh6nn> astro1bill: QPartEd would probably be the easiest way
[18:58] <joh6nn> BluesKaj: don't underestimate the power of punctuation
[18:58] <astro1bill> joh6nn: is that a terminal command?
[18:58] <darkraiser> yeah mpc
[18:58] <darkraiser> mp3
[18:58] <darkraiser> i load it but it wont play
[18:58] <andy_> Uhm, so, i use the Kmix thingy, i have pushed the volume to the max, still it very "low" -- where is the hiden extra volume knob?
[18:59] <beautifulsnow> darkraiser go on add/remove and search for the word restricted
[18:59] <beautifulsnow> and install the mp3 one
[18:59] <beautifulsnow> (read the descriptions_
[18:59] <jussi01> !mp3
[18:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:00] <joh6nn> andy_: you probably need to open the volume manager and check all the volume sliders, not just the main one
[19:00] <joh6nn> astro1bill: no, it's a program you can install
[19:00] <beautifulsnow> andy_   click it or right click it for more properties, (and do what joh said ^_^
[19:00] <darkraiser> beatifulsnow i did and what now?
[19:01] <beautifulsnow> darkraiser, check and install the package, and then boom, you can play mp3 :)
[19:01] <darkraiser> ok thx but what program should i instal?
[19:01] <darkraiser> i am downloading something now
[19:02] <beautifulsnow> did you search for 'restricted'? It should come up with ubuntu restricted extras I think, which the description says gives mp3 support
[19:02] <beautifulsnow> if it doesn't show for you let me know
[19:03] <andy_> Inside the (visual) Kmix app? Becouse i have tried the diffrent sliders, and it did not work. Volume is still to low. Is there anything i could do inn the terminal?
[19:04] <nosrednaekim> andy_» alsamixer
[19:04] <BluesKaj> darkraiser:  for mp3 playback on amarok install libxine1-ffmpeg
[19:05] <darkraiser> where to get that?
[19:05] <camserver_> do i need to update my kernel when i change a pci card/
[19:05]  * jussi01 recmends kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:05] <nosrednaekim> !info libxine1-ffmpeg
[19:05] <jussi01> camserver_: you shouldnt, no
[19:05] <nosrednaekim> camserver_» no
[19:05] <llutz> camserver_: usually no nead, just if old kernel won't support new device
[19:05] <jussi01> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:05] <ubotu> libxine1-ffmpeg (source: xine-lib): mpeg related plugins for libxine1. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.7-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 435 kB, installed size 908 kB
[19:06] <darkraiser> look , everyone say restrited but when i run add/remove i type pass and got adapt installer but i dont see restrited area anywhere?
[19:06] <ubotu> kubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[19:06] <llutz> darkraiser: you need universe-repo activated
[19:06] <jussi01> darkraiser: system - adept - manage repositories - make sure multiverse is ticked
[19:07] <camserver_> is there anything like livetype for linux?
[19:07] <andy_> Okay, looks good. Tho i can't change the parameters on the first <MASTER> using alsamix, only the second one called PCM.. wich was at 100/100 already, is there somthing i have forgoten to configure?
[19:08] <beautifulsnow> camserver_: livetype, what's it do, make movies?
[19:08] <xxBasYxx> hi i have 2 monitors and 2 screens, everithing works OK, but sometimes when i change active screen it look likes is pressed CRTL or Shift key ... plz
[19:08] <bobleny> how do i break up terminal output? I have a command I want to run, but the output is so big, I loose it on my screen...
[19:09] <darkraiser> jussi01 i did all to last part but i cant find this musltiverse and i dont see anywhere option to tick
[19:09] <prince_jammys> bobleny: one way is to pipe it to "less":   command | less
[19:09] <beautifulsnow> boblerny after the command put this bar:   | more
[19:09] <prince_jammys> :)
[19:09] <beautifulsnow> camserver_: do any of these sound like what you are looking for? (there are more though) Kino - Free digital video editor, Cinepaint - Frame by frame retouching tool, Pitivi - Linear video editor, Stopmotion - Create stop motion videos
[19:10] <mrunagi> is there anything like apples livetype for linux?
[19:10] <damien__> where is #kubuntu-fr ?
[19:11] <beautifulsnow> type /join #kubuntu-fr ?
[19:11] <jussi01> darkraiser: when you go to manage repositories, what do you see?
[19:11] <jussi01> mrunagi: it would be nice if you just stuck to one identity
[19:11] <beautifulsnow> >_>
[19:12] <mrunagi> itd be nice if i could set up my camserver to run too
[19:12] <damien__> #kubuntu-fr
[19:12] <mrunagi> but i guess we cant all have everything we want =x
[19:12] <darkraiser> jussi01 i see some box and in first row it write type in second url in thrid distribution and in fourth components
[19:12] <Zombocom> ok so guys
[19:12] <jussi01> darkraiser: no, you need to go to the manu, where there is an option for manage repositories
[19:12] <Zombocom> where can I find help for the jack audio server]
[19:13] <jussi01> Zombocom: tried #ubuntustudio ?
[19:13] <darkraiser> jussi01 and how to get to that menu?
[19:13] <mrunagi> livetype is a....
[19:13] <mrunagi> well......i dunno what it outputs to but you can animate text in various ways
[19:14] <jussi01> darkraiser: click the "adept" word in the top corner
[19:14] <darkraiser> ok did
[19:14] <jussi01> then manage rpositories.
[19:14] <beautifulsnow> is it ok to reinstall ubuntu over itself if I just did a fresh install? (without formatting)
[19:14] <darkraiser> did 2
[19:14] <Zombocom> jussi01 I don't use UBUNTU studio
[19:14] <Zombocom> righ
[19:14] <jussi01> then multiverse
[19:15] <Zombocom> but I'll go over there to ask for help jussi01
[19:15] <jussi01> Zombocom: doesnt matter, lot of people there using jack
[19:15] <darkraiser> but i told you i dont get anywhere option multiverse
[19:15] <darkraiser> i got that box
[19:15] <bobleny> Is there a way to copy all of it to another file or something?
[19:15] <darkraiser> with shi1t
[19:15] <BluesKaj> darkraiser:  Open adept package manager, On the menu of that screen you will need to click on Adept -> Manage Repositories, click the Kubuntu Software tab, check all the boxes with an "X". The same goes for the Third Party software tab. Close, and then in the terminal do : "sudo apt-get update".  Welcome to #kubuntu!
[19:23] <beautifulsnow> greeg, I think you might have better help at #web :/
[19:24] <greeg> ahh thanx
[19:24] <Zombocom> !hi | beautifulsnow
[19:24] <ubotu> beautifulsnow: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[19:24] <beautifulsnow> ^^
[19:24] <wolf4914> Did anybody experience that lower window edge in ktorrent (where statistics are) dissapears once the horizontal line was moved up or down ?
[19:25] <darkraiser> god help maker of this system if i get a hand on him.. he wish he never made anything in his pathetic little life
[19:25] <darkraiser> bb for now
[19:25] <SomeOne1> juusi01 only i get is Mozilla Firefox English language/region package when i search for firefox
[19:25] <beautifulsnow> Q_Q *shock*
[19:25] <BluesKaj> beautiful snow here as well ...5" of the stuff lastnight ..a regular winter wonderland here :)
[19:25] <nosrednaekim> SomeOne1» are you using dapper?
[19:26] <jussi01> I need to run. see you all later.
[19:26] <beautifulsnow> BluesKaj: Snow? ^_^ It's snowing here... *STILL* about 15" I think ATM
[19:27] <BluesKaj> wow in maine /
[19:27] <BluesKaj> ?
[19:27] <beautifulsnow> Yeah
[19:27] <BluesKaj> Northern Ontario here
[19:28] <beautifulsnow> Can I move in with you >->
[19:28] <beautifulsnow> ;p
[19:29] <beautifulsnow> Arg, going to reinstall ubuntu just to get the mouse to work... ;__;
[19:29] <beautifulsnow> Sounds a bit drastic uh
[19:29] <BluesKaj> beautifulsnow:  we got enuff  ...can barely see over the banks in my driveway
[19:32] <mrunagi> i have a conexant capture card that the feed is scrambled lines, can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[19:33] <BluesKaj> beautifulsnow:  have you tried editing the xorg.conf ?
[19:33] <astro1bill> I've just installe kubuntu, and I can't get adept to connect and look for any software.  I get a message, sometimes, that says 'Auto configuration . . .  and  ' could not find a usale proxy configuration unit.   Anyone know how to fix this.  I'm connected and I am on the computer in question.
[19:34] <astro1bill> er, 'could not find a usable proxy configuration '
[19:35] <beautifulsnow> BluesKaj: Like I have a clue how to. Someone was helping me a lot earlier but I coudlnt figure it out (Im a complete newbie when it comes to hardware) I think editing xorg.conf is too much trouble, when I KNOW the mouse works out of the box when I usually install ubuntu
[19:36] <beautifulsnow> Oops I didn't mean to make that sound angry ;p
[19:37] <nosrednaekim> beautifulsnow» you can always do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[19:37] <BluesKaj> beautifulsnow:  try  ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ' in the konsole , you can configure your mouse when you get that option
[19:37] <beautifulsnow> Ill try anything :P (running it now, thanks :) )
[19:40] <beautifulsnow> :/ its all about video :/ is it going to mess up my video drivers? :p
[19:41] <nosrednaekim> beautifulsnow» hopefully not.
[19:41] <beautifulsnow> >_>;
[19:41] <nosrednaekim> anything specific?
[19:41] <SomeOne1> nosrednaekim gutsy
[19:41] <BluesKaj> beautifulsnow:  what graphics card ?
[19:42] <beautifulsnow> Well, everything. Doesn't seem to apply to my setup, ie: asking for CRT information et al :P Im just going to reinstall
[19:42] <nosrednaekim> SomeOne1» well, then going into adept_manager->adept->manage repositories and check all of those repositories to turn them on.
[19:42] <nosrednaekim> beautifulsnow» no-no.... do this first
[19:42] <Aharoon>  i installed amsn but i want to update it to last version i downloaded it but icannt installed it the file is amsn-0.97-1.tcl85.x86.package
[19:44] <nosrednaekim> Aharoon» it would be in /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:44] <beautifulsnow> nosrednaekim: I know Im going to mess up the x config if I run that, because I don't have a clue to most of those options ;p
[19:44] <nosrednaekim> beautifulsnow» ok.... then just run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" which should provide fewer choices.... but it may not fix it
[19:45] <Aharoon> no i downloaded it to my desktop but i want the code to install it is not dep backage it is shell script
[19:48] <SomeOne1> nosrednaekim done thanks
[19:48] <Aharoon> nosrednaekim no i downloaded it to my desktop but i want the code to install it is not dep backage it is shell script
[19:49] <nosrednaekim> oh... I don't know then...
[19:49] <nosrednaekim> SomeOne1» click reload and then you should have firefox available
[19:49] <SomeOne1> yeah all ih here :)
[19:49] <SomeOne1> is*
[19:49] <Aharoon> ok thx
[19:55] <harmental> guys..im trying to password-protect a file.zip by doing: zip -e file
[19:55] <harmental> after entering the password i get: zip error: Nothing to do! (file.zip)
[19:56] <harmental> any ideas?
[19:57] <SSJ_GZ> harmental: file.zip already exists?
[19:58] <harmental> SSJ_GZ: yeap
[19:59] <SSJ_GZ> harmental: It's possible that zip won't encrypt an existing file - maybe it can only encrypt while it's creating the zip file.
[19:59] <SSJ_GZ> harmental: That would be pretty lame, though.
[19:59] <harmental> SSJ_GZ: yeap.....thats it...
[19:59] <harmental> it can only encrypt a file at creation...
[20:01] <MonctonJoe> can someone give me the url for the copy paste?
[20:01] <Lynoure> !pastebin | MonctonJoe
[20:01] <ubotu> MonctonJoe: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:02] <MonctonJoe> Lynoure:  thanx :D
[20:03] <BluesKaj> SSJ_GZ:  never knew zip would encrypt files , just compress them
[20:03] <SSJ_GZ> BluesKaj: It has some very weak encryption, IIEC
[20:05] <MonctonJoe> ok here it is, I am trying to follow some instructions I was givin, but not sure how to go about it. if there is someone available who could help me, here is a copy/paste of the instructions I have been given http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57987/
[20:06] <MonctonJoe> I have the document that needs to be sent to the printer, just not sure how to do it
[20:09] <BluesKaj> MonctonJoe:  I'm not sure about the printer setup , is it connected to a windows pc on local area network and your linuxbox is also on that network?
[20:12] <MonctonJoe> BluesKaj:  no, windows and linux are the same machine, dual boot
[20:13] <MonctonJoe> I have booted into windows and generated the required file, and now booted back into Ubuntu and transfered the file to my linux desktop. just trying to figure out how to send it to the printer
[20:14] <MonctonJoe> I opened terminal and typed .cat file.prn > /dev/usb/lp0  but that did nothing
[20:14] <BluesKaj> MonctonJoe: why not just run the printer wizard in system settings ?
[20:15] <MonctonJoe> i have
[20:15] <MonctonJoe> but it wont print
[20:16] <BluesKaj> it didn't print a test page then
[20:16] <MonctonJoe> no
[20:16] <BluesKaj> is the printer listed in the drivers section of the wizard ?
[20:17] <MonctonJoe> no
[20:17] <MonctonJoe> there is no driver
[20:17] <MonctonJoe> thats why I am trying to get the driver developer to make a driver
[20:17] <MonctonJoe> but they want me to do this test thing first
[20:17] <BluesKaj> what printer ?
[20:18] <MonctonJoe> KONICA MINOLTA mc2500W
[20:18] <amir_> can someone help me with mounting hard drives?
[20:21] <triorieel> I'm new to kde and theres 2 things that I cant figure out how to fix. 1) I don't like taskbar greying out minimized window   2) compiz ignores virtual desktops and only uses 2 instead
[20:21] <mrunagi> i have a conexant capture card that the feed is scrambled lines, can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[20:22] <amir_> i need help with the fstab file
[20:23] <nosrednaekim> !ftsab
[20:23] <mrunagi> people ask questinos and leave right after....
[20:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ftsab - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:23] <nosrednaekim> !fstab
[20:23] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[20:24] <nosrednaekim> triorieel» you need the kicker-compiz package
[20:25] <triorieel> is that standard repository?
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> triorieel» I think its in backports
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> !info kicker-compiz (gutsy)
[20:25] <ubotu> Package kicker-compiz does not exist in gutsy
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> !info kicker-compiz (hardy)
[20:25] <ubotu> kicker-compiz (source: kicker-compiz): modified pager applet for Kicker made to work with Compiz. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.5.4-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 68 kB, installed size 260 kB
[20:26] <triorieel> I tried installing hardy last night...it would do a hard lockup during kde load
[20:27] <nosrednaekim> triorieel» well that package is in gutsy-backports
[20:28] <crackhead_25> anyone know how to reload a firefox session/where firefox saves the sessions??
[20:29] <jpatrick> triorieel: most certainly in backports, I put it there
[20:30] <triorieel> trying to figure out how to add backports to repository
[20:30] <triorieel> I get deb: command not found
[20:30] <bhuey> are the kde4 binaries release ? how are they ?
[20:31]  * bhuey reads a faq
[20:31] <shabbaz> hi, i install kubuntu, but i cant access the system, i use the same username and password i set when i install.. why i cant access?
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> !kde4
[20:31] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[20:38] <bhuey> thanks
[20:39] <triorieel> Ive installed kicker-compiz...there appears to be no difference, is there a settings for it somewhere?
[20:39] <BluesKaj> MonctonJoe:  sorry but i can't seem to find anything that will help you in the std way of printer installation since no driver seems to be available ...maybe the command you were given may work with some modification .. jpatrick ?
[20:40] <bhuey> Is there a kde4 specific konqueror with new features or is the 3 series browser just forward ported ?
[20:41] <jpatrick> triorieel: dcop kicker default restart
[20:41] <Martijn81> bhuey: best to ask that in #kde
[20:41] <bhuey> ok
[20:42] <dhq> i have a biometric device what application do i use to use it
[20:42] <jpatrick> BluesKaj: don't know much about printers, sorry
[20:42] <BluesKaj> it's ok jpatrick , his printer not very common i think :(
[20:43] <jpatrick> !printer
[20:43] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[20:43] <jpatrick> MonctonJoe: maybe those might help?
[20:47] <BluesKaj> MonctonJoe:  did you type  cat file.prn > /dev/usb/lp0 or .cat file.prn > /dev/usb/lp0 .If the dot (.) was in front then the command might not work
[20:51] <olie> can anyone help me please
[20:51] <jpatrick> !anyone | olie
[20:51] <ubotu> olie: In place of  "Does anyone/anybody...", please be aware, one persons expert is another persons beginner, please ask your question in full, then see what helps!
[20:52] <olie> i cant update it says something about a comit break
[20:52] <jpatrick> olie: try: sudo apt-get install -f
[20:53] <olie> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[20:53] <jpatrick> !aptfix | olie
[20:53] <ubotu> olie: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:53] <olie> thts what it says in konsole
[20:54] <mrunagi> !bttv
[20:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bttv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:55] <olie> it seems to be working well now thank you kind people
[20:56] <jpatrick> olie: don't mention it
[20:56] <jpatrick> :)
[20:56] <olie> is stdin
[20:56] <olie> in
[20:57] <jpatrick> olie: no, stdin is not online
[20:57] <olie> ah ill have to phone him
[20:57] <mrunagi> sigh im getting annoyed
[20:58] <jussi01> mrunagi: whats the issue?
[20:58] <olie> it still wont update jpatrick
[20:59] <mrunagi> i have a capture card that isnt decoding video correctly, and i dont know where to start troubleshooting
[20:59] <jussi01> olie: whats the error mesage?
[20:59] <olie> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[20:59] <rjb> hey, is it just me, or  downloading files from sourceforge.net no longer works with konqueror??
[21:00] <sparhawk_> whee
[21:00] <Dorwin6> hi guys, i have install kubuntu on my laptop
[21:00] <Dorwin6> however, i cant seem to find the wireless driver, can anyone help
[21:01] <tekteen> Dorwin6: have you tried the restricted drivers manager?
[21:01] <Dorwin6> tekteen where is it
[21:01] <jussi01> Dorwin6: which wireless card?
[21:01] <Dorwin6> just a second
[21:02] <Dorwin6> i need to find out, i bought this laptop 2 days ago
[21:02] <Dorwin6> its samsung x22 t7250
[21:02] <tekteen> Dorwin6: type Alt+F2 then in the box type kdesudo restricted-manager-kde
[21:02] <olie> me cant update :(
[21:03] <jussi01> Dorwin6: please pastebin the output of lspci
[21:03] <Dorwin6> it says your hardware does not need any restricted drivers
[21:03] <tekteen> Dorwin6: ok
[21:03] <tekteen> do what jussi01 said
[21:03] <tekteen> do you know what the pastebin is?
[21:03] <jussi01> olie: did you try: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:03] <Dorwin6> no, what should i type to get pastebin
[21:04] <tekteen> !pastebin
[21:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:04] <jussi01> Dorwin6: if yo are not clear on anything we say, please ask, there are o silly questions :)
[21:04] <tekteen> o = no :-)
[21:04] <jussi01> tekteen: oops, typo
[21:04] <crackhead_25> how do i download and install the build-essential and the linux stuff for a new kernel which i just downloaded (but into whose session i can't download, because there is no ndiswrapper compiled, and i need these tools to compile the ndiswrapper)???
[21:04] <tekteen> I do it all the time
[21:05] <Dorwin6> thank you for your help, let me try
[21:05] <Dorwin6> im gonna use my laptop to connect to the server
[21:05] <jussi01> crackhead_25: are you able to connect via ethernet at all?
[21:05] <crackhead_25> jussi01: no
[21:05] <crackhead_25> tekteen: isn't it kdesu and not kdesudo?
[21:05] <tekteen> crackhead_25: both work
[21:06] <crackhead_25> jussi01: what do you suggest
[21:06] <jussi01> !kdesudo
[21:06] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[21:06] <jussi01> crackhead_25: you can try apt on cd if you have a spare cd
[21:06] <crackhead_25> what do you mean
[21:06] <jussi01> !aptoncd
[21:06] <ubotu> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[21:07] <olie> thnx jussi01 it works now
[21:07] <camserver_>  /j #linuxtv
[21:07] <jussi01> olie: great
[21:07] <jussi01> camserver_: - space ?
[21:08] <olie> just popping out for a couple of mins
[21:08] <tekteen> camserver_:  /join #linuxtv
[21:09] <crackhead_25> jussi01: ok, i have the aptoncd prog. but how do i tell it to put on there the new kernel's build-essential and what not?
[21:10] <profoX`> will Kubuntu 8.04 feature an LTS release with KDE 3.5.9 or not? someone told me this today
[21:10] <Martijn81> anyone any advise in setting up a local twiki or mediawiki wiki site?
[21:10] <jussi01> crackhead_25: I assume you have 2 kubuntu linux pcs?
[21:10] <jussi01> !khardy | profoX`
[21:10] <ubotu> profoX`: Kubuntu Hardy Heron expects to ship with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks. KDE 4 should be offered by shipit. The KDE 3 CD will be commercially supported for 18 months and KDE 4 will be community supported.
[21:10] <profoX`> in other words, no LTS
[21:10] <jussi01> no
[21:10] <crackhead_25> jussi01: i have a laptop with ubuntu. i have a desktop with kubuntu. i was trying both out the last six months.
[21:11] <jussi01> crackhead_25: great. install build essential on the one with internet access
[21:11] <crackhead_25> jussi01: i dont understand.
[21:12] <jussi01> crackhead_25: install the build-essential package on the pc with internet access.
[21:12] <crackhead_25> i have build essential on the desktop. i did last night a feisty to gutsy upgrade. i load gutsy, and the build essential or the linux headers don't seem to be properly functional, because i can't make ndiswrapper as needed (to get internet wireless access again with it).
[21:12] <jussi01> ahhh
[21:12] <jussi01> sounds like you need the new linux headers package
[21:13] <Dorwin6> jussi01 : http://pastebin.ca/924940
[21:13] <crackhead_25> so, i figure i need to reinstall build essential and the headers or whatever there, but without internet, i dont know how to do that. so, i reloaded the previous linux kernel here on this desktop (same computr), and i'm on internet. now i can dl what i need, and then hopefully go back in briefly without internet and manuallyinstall something to get ndiswrapper to start working again..
[21:13] <Dorwin6> I am currently connected to the wireless wpa2
[21:13] <Erickj92>  i have an issue. when i open the Kmenu in kubuntu, and go to a thing like "system", the things inside the folder have all kinda of jnk that say: "_: Entries in K-menu: ....." what is going on?
[21:13] <crackhead_25> jussi01: how do i do it?
[21:14] <jussi01> crackhead_25: waita sec, please explain exactly what you are trying to acheive.
[21:14] <crackhead_25> jussi01: look above. i just typed.
[21:15] <jussi01> ahh ok.
[21:15] <jussi01> Dorwin6: if you are currently connected to wireless, what is the isssue?
[21:16] <Dorwin6> hm. im new  to kubuntu
[21:16] <Dorwin6> in desktop version. I've been running ubuntu server without any problems..
[21:16] <jussi01> crackhead_25: you need to find out the kernel version for the linux headers that you need, then install the linux headers package that corresponds to that kernel version
[21:17] <Dorwin6> i would like to know how do i make amazing kde interface with kubuntu
[21:17] <Dorwin6> and also install virtualbox to load windows xp
[21:17] <crackhead_25> jussi01: i can look in the grub bootloader menu and see the linux kernel version. how do i "install the linux headers package corresponding" once i know??
[21:17] <jussi01> Dorwin6: do you currently have kde installed?
[21:18] <Dorwin6> yes KDE is installed together with kubuntu installation right/
[21:18] <crackhead_25> jussi01: it's 2.6.22-15-386
[21:18] <crackhead_25> no
[21:18] <crackhead_25> jussi01: 2.6.22-14-386
[21:18] <jussi01> crackhead_25: sudo apt-get install linuxlinux-headers-version number
[21:18] <jussi01> gah
[21:18] <jussi01> that cae out all wrong
[21:19] <jussi01> crackhead_25: something like sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.22-9
[21:19] <crackhead_25> gotcha.. it's working with the correct number i just gave
[21:19] <jussi01> great
[21:20] <crackhead_25> is that all i need to do? and then i should be able to make properly wheni go back in the new install?
[21:20] <jussi01> Dorwin6: ok. so what exactly do you want to do then?
[21:20] <jussi01> crackhead_25: should...
[21:20] <crackhead_25> jussi01: should i go try it now you're saying?
[21:20] <Dorwin6> jussi01 : someone told me FVWM Themes are better than gnome or kde
[21:21] <jussi01> crackhead_25: once that packge has installed, yes
[21:21] <Dorwin6> can u advice me how to install it
[21:21] <mohbana> will the next release have kde4 by default?
[21:21] <jussi01> !khardy | mohbana
[21:21] <ubotu> mohbana: Kubuntu Hardy Heron expects to ship with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks. KDE 4 should be offered by shipit. The KDE 3 CD will be commercially supported for 18 months and KDE 4 will be community supported.
[21:21] <jussi01> Dorwin6: not knowing what fvwm is doesnt help... :(
[21:22] <jussi01> Dorwin6: you can try compiz if you have a compatible video card
[21:22] <Dorwin6> what sort of features can i install into KDE in order to make the interface better? like animated background and stuff
[21:22] <jussi01> !compiz | Dorwin6
[21:22] <ubotu> Dorwin6: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:23] <Dorwin6> i have ati 128 mb graphic card on that laptop
[21:23] <jussi01> Dorwin6: however you have an ati card, so I would check exactly in #compiz-fusion whether it is supported
[21:23] <Dorwin6> as we all know ati sometimes doesnt have driver in linux
[21:23] <Dorwin6> yea
[21:24] <jussi01> Dorwin6: btw, have you got the restricted driver for that card? (system settings - advanced - restricted manager)
[21:25] <Dorwin6> it says your hardware does not need any restricted drivers
[21:25] <Erickj92>  i have an issue. when i open the Kmenu in kubuntu, and go to a thing like "system", the things inside the folder have all kinda of jnk that say: "_: Entries in K-menu: ....." what is going on?
[21:25] <jussi01> Erickj92: which version of kubuntu are you running?
[21:25] <Erickj92> the newest i guess
[21:25] <Erickj92> 7.10
[21:25] <jussi01> hrm, has it always been like that?
[21:26] <Erickj92> just intsalled it 5 min ago
[21:26] <jussi01> ok
[21:26] <Erickj92> and it was like that on the first boot
[21:26] <jussi01> Erickj92: could you take a screenshot and put it to imagebin.ca for me?
[21:26] <Erickj92> ok, ill try
[21:26] <Erickj92> what is a program that will take a screenshot?
[21:27] <jussi01> Erickj92: print screen on your keyboard should do it
[21:27] <jussi01> otherwise ksnapshot under graphic menu
[21:28] <Erickj92> i cant take a screenshot of the menu's with ksnapshot
[21:28] <Erickj92> unless i have like a hotkey
[21:28] <Martijn81> anyone knows a guide to get twiki going on?
[21:28] <jussi01> Erickj92: you can, use the delay feature :)
[21:28] <Erickj92> oh, i se
[21:28] <crxyem> I trying to do a fresh install 7.10 alternate cd and I'm getting an error, Too many IDE interfaces, no room in table, is there a work around for this
[21:29] <rodolfo> #Ubuntu-ar
[21:29] <tekteen> rodolfo: /join #Ubuntu-ar
[21:29] <Erickj92> one sec, and ill upload it
[21:29] <jussi01> Erickj92: :)
[21:30] <Dorwin6> jussi01: do u mean System settings > advanced > restricted drivers ?
[21:30] <Dorwin6> it says your hardware does not need any restricted drivers
[21:31] <zhobbs> I accidently messed up /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.9, where can I find this file on the installation disc?
[21:31] <Erickj92> http://imagebin.ca/view/M8wDD4.html
[21:31] <Erickj92> jussi01 ^
[21:31] <jussi01> Dorwin6: ok
[21:32] <Dorwin6> jussi01 : does that  mean i can install compiz ?
[21:32] <jussi01> Dorwin6: as I said before, ask in #compiz-fusion
[21:33] <jussi01> Erickj92: that is extemely weird, I have never seen that before :(
[21:33] <Erickj92> darn
[21:33] <jussi01> Erickj92: try updating to see if there is a fix
[21:33] <Erickj92> ok
[21:33] <jussi01> (the little package on the right)
[21:34] <Dorwin6> thank toy
[21:34] <Dorwin6> you
[21:34] <jussi01> Erickj92: I assume you checked the md5 of the disk before burning it?
[21:34] <Erickj92> err, no
[21:35] <jussi01> !md5 | Erickj92
[21:35] <ubotu> Erickj92: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[21:35] <Erickj92> i didnt download it in windows
[21:36] <jussi01> Erickj92: see the first link then
[21:36] <jussi01> Anyway, Im off, I hope there is someone else about who can help.
[21:36] <Erickj92> ok, thanks a lot
[21:36] <sam64> bah
[21:36] <Erickj92> i hope i get it working
[21:36] <jussi01> so do I
[21:36] <sam64> you would think with the number of people on the OpenOffice  channel someone would be around to answer some questions
[21:37] <jussi01> !weekend > sam64
[21:37] <sam64> oh..
[21:37] <crxyem> there seems to be a kernel issue in 7.10 max amount of ide drives has this been fixed ??
[21:39] <Dorwin6> jussi01 : appearently it will work
[21:45] <Piddy> How do I set Konqueror instead of Dolphin as an explorer?
[21:45] <jussi01> !dolphin
[21:45] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[21:45] <jussi01> (and Im not here)
[21:49] <Piddy> Thanks.
[21:50] <bantam> when installing kubuntu how many partitions should i have and should i use LVM partitons? its a 200GB drive
[21:50] <m-lund> Anyone who knows if there will be a bigger effort to support kolab in Hardy?
[21:50] <m-lund> Currently it more or less is completely useless.
[21:52] <bantam> any suggestions
[21:52] <bantam> also do i need a swap drive if i have 3GB ram?
[21:53] <m-lund> bantam: Usually I would prefer a 20G / for system and the rest for /home.
[21:53] <m-lund> Maybe a litlle swap too...
[21:53] <bantam> so a 20gb root part and mabey 1gb swap and the rest for /home?
[21:54] <m-lund> bantam: Yes - that sounds reasonable. An old rule said "double the amount of memory for swap"... But I'm not sure that counts anymore
[21:55] <bantam> is an LVM partition ecommended?
[21:55] <bantam> recommended
[21:55] <abortd> can anyone help me with formatting a usb disk?
[21:55] <abortd> one of those usb backup thingies
[21:55] <m-lund> bantam: It adds complexicity imho. If it is only for a desktop I wouldn't recommend it.
[21:55] <bantam> ok thankyou for your advice
[21:56] <m-lund> abortd: Should be easy - plug it in...
[21:56] <bantam> let me give it a whirl
[21:56] <abortd> i did
[21:56] <abortd> i need to format it
[21:56] <abortd> i havent used ubuntu in years
[21:56] <m-lund> abortd: dmesg to see what device name it gets...
[21:56] <abortd> and forget the tool
[21:57] <rofl> in http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/gutsy/sound/ there is a package called "alsa-lib", but i cannot fetch it with apt-get , it's not existing. how can i get  it ?
[21:57] <m-lund> abortd: and then mkfs.vfat /dev/sdX#
[21:57] <abortd> is there a visual partitioning tool in ubuntu?
[21:57] <rofl> abortd: gparted
[21:59] <abortd> thanks
[22:09] <MiraiWarren0_0> Good afternoon.
[22:10] <MonctonJoe> BluesKaj: you still here?
[22:11] <abortd> i think i killed my flash drive
[22:12] <MonctonJoe> ok here it is, I am trying to follow some instructions I was givin, but not sure how to go about it. if there is someone available who could help me, here is a copy/paste of the instructions I have been given http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57987/
[22:13] <theunixgeek> How do I get KWrite to stop making ~ files?
[22:13] <m-lund> abortd - what does dmesg say if you unplug it and plug it in again?
[22:13] <jpatrick> theunixgeek: it's in the options, look for backup files
[22:13] <theunixgeek> jpatrick: thanks
[22:13] <abortd> it says alot
[22:14] <abortd> but i created the proper partition on it with the gparted
[22:14] <abortd> and it says i only have 23.4 mb of space
[22:14] <abortd> and i thought this thing had more than that
[22:17] <m-lund> The last lines of dmesg will usually tell you info about what you are plugging in - including the raw size.
[22:18] <abortd> i dunno i guess it is 27mb
[22:18] <abortd> who would honestly make a 27mb flash drive
[22:21] <MonctonJoe> why is it that in linux, if you want to copy and paste, you need to keep the document that you are pasting from, open?
[22:25] <ray_> hi
[22:25] <Erickj92> why, when i boot kubuntu, am i getting an "Out of range" message on my screen?
[22:28] <mixed> !mpg
[22:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:29] <slow-motion> hi
[22:29] <Erickj92> any ideas?
[22:32] <m-lund> Erickj92: It might be the bootsplash
[22:33] <Erickj92> that is what i kinda was thinking
[22:33] <Erickj92> how do i edit the boot splash?
[22:33] <m-lund>  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:33] <Erickj92> is there an interactive menu?
[22:34] <m-lund> Nope, you have to edit the file.
[22:34] <Erickj92> darn
[22:34] <Erickj92> what if i installed a different one?
[22:34] <m-lund> Might add "nosplash" as a parameter to the kernel you boot.
[22:34] <toxop1asma> question: if i have to use either fat32 or ntfs with linux, which is better?
[22:35] <toxop1asma> that is, for data, not for the os itself
[22:35] <Erickj92> i thought you use ex3 for linux
[22:35] <jpatrick> toxop1asma: fat32
[22:36] <Erickj92> m-lund: where in the meno.lst file do i add that parimiter?
[22:36] <toxop1asma> jpatrick: is it because the ntfs driver isn't very good yet, or because of something else?
[22:37] <jpatrick> toxop1asma: I think the driver for it has been around longer so it might be safer
[22:37] <toxop1asma> jpatrick: makes sense; thanks.
[22:38] <Erickj92> jpatrick, would you know what i have to edit in the menu.lst file to make it so there is no boot splash?
[22:39] <jpatrick> Erickj92: remove "splash" from the boot options
[22:40] <Erickj92> jpatrick: is that in the menu.lst?
[22:40] <jpatrick> Erickj92: yeah, "kernel" section
[22:40] <vdkstefaan> hello
[22:40] <vdkstefaan> i have a problem
[22:40] <jpatrick> !hi | vdkstefaan
[22:40] <ubotu> vdkstefaan: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[22:40] <jpatrick> !ask | vdkstefaan
[22:40] <ubotu> vdkstefaan: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:42] <vdkstefaan> i have a tv tuner card, when i do lspci i got the message:  multimedia video controller: conexant Unknow device 5b7a. i have a acer idea 511 and i want to run linuxmce. the install of linuxmce is ok but just the tv tuner card is not installed
[22:42] <jpatrick> !mint | vdkstefaan
[22:42] <ubotu> vdkstefaan: The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[22:44] <Erickj92> how do i get my gentoo linux on the grub menu?
[22:44] <MonctonJoe> ok here it is, I am trying to follow some instructions I was givin, but not sure how to go about it. if there is someone available who could help me, here is a copy/paste of the instructions I have been given http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57987/
[22:44] <jpatrick> !grub | Erickj92
[22:44] <ubotu> Erickj92: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:48] <Erickj92> jpatrick, that didnt work
[22:49] <jpatrick> Erickj92: sorry, no idea then..
[22:50] <Erickj92> well, ill just come back another time when there are more techs. im sure some one will be able to help me.
[22:53] <toxop1asma> question: is kubuntu known to be somewhat unstable, or is the problem on my end? hardware, perhaps?
[22:54] <heinkel_111> does anyone know how I can find out which Nvidia driver version is on my system?
[22:54] <heinkel_111> i need a command line approach ... GUI does not work
[22:56] <ere4si> heinkel_111, tried   lsmod  ?
[22:58] <heinkel_111> ere4si no! will man lsmod give the clues i need?
[22:59] <ere4si> heinkel_111, the only option is lsmod or lsmod | grep nvidia
[22:59] <ere4si> heinkel_111, man lsmod is almost mt
[23:00] <heinkel_111> ere4si it does not print version, only module name and size :(
[23:00] <ere4si> k
[23:03] <adz21c> heinkel_111: cd /usr/lib/ && ls *GL*, it'll be the same version as the GL libs
[23:03] <adz21c> heinkel_111: so for example mine says libGL.so.169.07
[23:09] <heinkel_111> adz21c: than you...i am slow responding cause working in many console windows and not seeing irssi all the time
[23:09] <adz21c> heinkel_111: np
[23:11] <heinkel_111> mine says 169.09
[23:11] <adz21c> heinkel_111: then thats your version
[23:13] <heinkel_111> is it possible to reinstall my nvidia driver?
[23:13] <heinkel_111> or do i need to deinstall and then install
[23:13] <Ugurlama> hi
[23:13] <adz21c> heinkel_111: i take it u did a manual install?
[23:14] <heinkel_111> adz21c: yes, i have a quite new nvidia card that needed newer drivers than supplied from kubuntu standard
[23:15] <adz21c> heinkel_111: ok, well tbh i never unistalled a manual install, i just install over the top
[23:20] <Antkin> Hello
[23:22] <nicholas> Sometimes, my external HD will simply disconnect for no reason. The only way to remount it is to wait or unplug it and plug it back in. What can I do about that?
[23:23] <ahmos> hi, when the final kubuntu hardy version will be released?
[23:27] <prince_jammys> !hardy
[23:27] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:27] <nicholas> Sometimes, my external HD will simply disconnect for no reason. The only way to remount it is to wait or unplug it and plug it back in. What can I do about that?
[23:29] <ahmos> thank's
[23:30] <Dorwin6> can anyone tell me how to install graphic driver to kubuntu
[23:33] <identityowl> ello? can some one help me amaork wont play mp3s and when it says "Amoarok currently cannot play MP3 files." and when i clink the "Install MP# Support it goes thorught what looks like a dl process but when i restart amarok it still says i cant play mp3s
[23:47] <nicholas> Sometimes, my external HD will simply disconnect for no reason. The only way to remount it is to wait or unplug it and plug it back in. What can I do about that?