[00:00] <andreas_> I have installed flash player (alien -i flash-plugin.blablalbla.rpm), in adept packagemanager is states that it is installed, why cant i whatch flash movies?
[00:00] <altg> is this a new feature in Gutsy ???
[00:00] <oobe> no
[00:00] <oobe> its been like that for a while
[00:01] <oobe> if u wanna make a root password the "sudo su" then type "passwd"
[00:02] <oobe> andreas_, try using a deb package
[00:03] <andreas_> oobe: can't find a deb package for flashplayer
[00:03] <oobe> do u use firefox
[00:03] <darlos> hello
[00:03] <oobe> hello
[00:03] <andreas_> oobe: yeah
[00:04] <altg> in my desktop (upgraded) it always ask for root pass !!
[00:04] <darlos> need help to istall opera.deb
[00:04] <oobe> i have it working but it was ages ago i know i used debs cause i wont use rpms
[00:05] <altg> how can i do to know if i had make a root password ???
[00:05] <oobe> apt-get install  flashplugin-nonfree
[00:05] <oobe> should work
[00:05] <newuser> ok     H E L P hahaha   i have gone to the www.yahoo page and click on music and it directs me to install flash or gnash  I tried gnash and it installed but there still is a problem.....where the video is suppose to be is a messed up black smallcase i  and a yellow messed up lowercase d      what is up with this computer install   can someone help me
[00:05] <andreas_> Okay, thx
[00:05] <oobe> if its not found you need to enable more sources in your sources.list
[00:06] <altg> oobe >> how can i do to know if i had make a root password ??? (scuse for my english, im french, but it's 1:06 here)
[00:06] <darlos> what the mening of erro message"E: Couldn't find package 15.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb"
[00:07] <jembouge> !fr | altg
[00:07] <ubotu> altg: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[00:07] <darlos> altg...do u have a password to login?
[00:08] <darlos> when you start you systeme
[00:08] <newuser> I am using a brand new Toshiba satalite
[00:09] <altg> yes on the both
[00:09] <altg> on kubuntu-fr, no one respond
[00:10] <altg> cause it's 1:10 in the morning in france
[00:11] <jembouge> alors vas-y je peux traduire
[00:11] <altg> non mais si t'as la reponse meme c'es mieux !!
[00:11] <Dragnslcr> altg- you don't need a root password
[00:11] <darlos> altg i think your root pasword is your admin password
[00:11] <jembouge> bah j'ai pas trop pigé ta question, je vais sur fr pour qu'on en discute
[00:12] <altg> oki
[00:12] <Dragnslcr> darlos- no, there is no root password. The password you use for sudo is your normal user password
[00:12] <Ahmuck> is there a program in kubuntu/kde that creates a collage from a batch of images similar to what picasa does ?
[00:13] <Dr_willis> there is Picassa for Linux. :)
[00:13] <yknott> digikam?
[00:13] <Dr_willis> and ive not seen a similer tool. :(
[00:13] <Dr_willis> I wanted to make a random wallpaper change that generated collages on the fly.
[00:14] <eltoro> dr_willis : you can make a wallpaper slideshow
[00:14] <stdin> "feh" can do that, but that's command line only
[00:15] <darlos> Dragnslcr...yes and is the same to add package
[00:15] <Dr_willis> eltoro,  right but i wanted to select a dir. and have the program make random collages from pics in that dir. and then use those for the wallpaper
[00:15] <eltoro> oh
[00:15] <Dr_willis> Been cooler if i could sort of animate the collages. heh heh..
[00:15] <eltoro> sorry i can'T really help you then
[00:15] <Dr_willis> change wallpaper every 2 sec. :) moving the pics about.
[00:16] <Dr_willis> Talk about cpu ussage.
[00:18] <Manad> I'm trying to play an xvid movie in Kaffeine, and it's very choppy. I know it's not the video because it played fine under Windows. Are there "restricted" codecs I could get which would make it run better?
[00:19] <Dr_willis> try vlc perhaps.
[00:19] <Dr_willis> or some other players.
[00:19] <newuser> Let me run this past someone...........If I have a duel boot sys and windows is on the mbr and linux is on the 2nd partition the laptop is fine with either os..... Now that I have removed the Bill Gates revenge and have only the ubuntu os on the whole hd... I am having issues with the sound and web video,,,  My question is this ,, When the windoz was installed due the drivers for the hardware bootup in the dos mode as windoz boots?
[00:19] <newuser>   Therefor loading before getting to grub?  Therefore not having any issues when using linux...
[00:19] <Manad> I'll try VLC...it has its own codecs IIRC.
[00:19] <Dr_willis> newuser,  the grub/boot/partitions shouldent be affecting the linux os.
[00:19] <Dr_willis> newuser,  when grub boots linux, theres nothing read from windows.
[00:20] <Dr_willis> newuser,  NOW that being said.. i have seen odd hardware that gets confused if you boot to windows, then 'reboot' to linux.
[00:20] <newuser> Im not saying it is read from windows...   Is it read from dos
[00:20] <Dr_willis> newuser,  dos? what does dos have to do with anything? :) you using windows95?
[00:21] <newuser> Does the hardware activate before the drivers for the os activeate
[00:21] <newuser> hahahahah    no
[00:21] <Dr_willis> Grub is loaded befor any other OS.
[00:21] <newuser> ok
[00:21] <Dr_willis> The only issue ive ever seen is that windows can set hardware in such a way the Linux drivers cant 'reset' them proplery. and tha twas only with one device i had ages ago. (a sound card)
[00:22] <newuser> then y is it that when I had this sys preloaded with vista and by me loaded with ubuntu worked well but when I removed the vista and reformatted to have only ubuntu I have issues with the sound and web video
[00:23] <Dr_willis> Im guessing the issue is unrelated to vista at all.
[00:23] <newuser> It has to be related to something...  I am very confused by this issue
[00:24] <Manad> I've had three apps crash on me so far in 2 hours of normal use. Adept, Dolphin, and something else I forgot. Is this normal? And is it possible my previous XFCE install might be interfering?
[00:24] <Dr_willis> newuser,  could bee some updates havent been done on your system yet, or some updates have been done..   or a different kernel version.
[00:24] <Dr_willis> Manad,  i normally install ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop all on the same box. no problems.
[00:25] <newuser> With duel boot and vista and ubuntu kde all was working well this was two days ago... New toshiba satalite a205-s4707 laptop
[00:25] <Dr_willis> newuser,  put it back the way it was and see if it  then works.. what i am saying that if you power up, select linux from grub. Then Nothing in windows gets read/loaded/used at all.
[00:26] <Dr_willis> In fact you could delete the windows partition, and still have the grub entry for windows. :) linux wont care.
[00:26] <newuser> reformatted and now just ubuntu and 145 updates with all the repositories checked and I go online fine but no video when I go to yahoo music it says you must install missing plugins
[00:26] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_Willis
[00:26] <Minataku> What's up?
[00:26] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: nope, it wouldnt mind at all.
[00:27] <Dr_willis> newuser,  right - you need to install  the various plugins that are not installed by default
[00:27] <newuser> I load the flash and the gnash and then the video window is there but it is messed up
[00:27] <jembouge> hi there
[00:27] <unix_infidel> it would just spit out an error when you tried to select the win partition.
[00:27] <Dr_willis> newuser,  install 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' for a start
[00:27] <Dodger73> *sigh* anyone manage to get fglrx to run under gutsy
[00:27] <Dodger73> ?
[00:27] <newuser> ands I still have no sound
[00:27] <newuser> ok.... Ill try it
[00:27] <Dr_willis> Dodger73,  it works for my pathic laptop.
[00:28] <jembouge> anyone knows hows to set up the "password manager" so that it doesn't memorize the root password for a few minutes, but instead ask each time required?
[00:28] <Dodger73> i've got a x1900xtx PCIe and all i get is a blank screen (monitor goes out of sync)
[00:28] <Dr_willis> jembouge,  you dont mean the 'sudo' thing do ya? i wonder if the kde ask for password thing uses the same time-cacheing of the password as sudo.
[00:29] <Hydrogen> yes
[00:29] <Hydrogen> it does
[00:29] <Hydrogen> its just a wrapper around sudo
[00:29] <Dr_willis> so one could set the sudo settings  then to fix what jembouge  wants then.
[00:29] <Hydrogen> yes
[00:29] <jembouge> Dr_willis: that's what I mean yeah
[00:30] <jembouge> actually that's altg asking, if you could just tell him, (and I'll follow in the background if translation needed)
[00:30] <Hydrogen> sudo visudo
[00:31] <Hydrogen> add timestamp_timeout 0
[00:31] <jembouge> Hydrogen: ok I'm listening
[00:31] <Hydrogen> and save it
[00:31] <Dr_willis> I dont see that setting in the /etc/sudoers file...
[00:31] <Hydrogen> its not in the default one
[00:32] <andrewlin> Can someone tell me how to connect to the wine channel?
[00:32] <Dr_willis> insults     If set, sudo will insult users when they enter an incorrect password.  This flag is off by default.
[00:32] <andrewlin> nvm
[00:32] <Dr_willis> :)
[00:32] <Hydrogen> thats a fun one :)
[00:32] <Dr_willis> Ok - i gotta learn how to enable that!
[00:32] <stdin> andrewlin: click on #winwhq  (or type /join #winehq )
[00:32] <Dr_willis> timestamp_timeout
[00:32] <Dr_willis>                    Number of minutes that can elapse before sudo will ask for a passwd again.
[00:33] <Dr_willis> Thats the one. :)
[00:33] <andrewlin> stdin: thanks
[00:33] <newuser> first I need to install the kubuntu       was it    apt-get install kde?
[00:33] <Dr_willis> kubuntu-desktop
[00:34] <newuser> thx'
[00:34] <Dr_willis> ubuntu is 'ubuntu-desktop'   xfce is 'xubuntu-desktop' and... :)
[00:34] <Dr_willis> I installed geubuntu-desktop  the other day :P
[00:34] <Dr_willis> and the gos-desktop even.
[00:34] <jembouge> thanks guys for the timestamp_timeout thingy
[00:35] <newuser> oh no... I closed the box in the gnome taskbar about the proprietary software updates and now my sys cant go online   any help
[00:35] <jembouge> I think that can be found in the settings panel
[00:50] <shinda> hey guys was wondering if anyone around was familiar with setting up apache virtual sites, I keep getting 403 errors on my config
[00:52] <Bawbatos> is there a gui for building an ipsec tunnel
[00:55] <Dr_willis> !find ipsec
[00:55] <ubotu> Found: ipsec-tools, pipsecd
[00:56] <Dr_willis> !info pipsecd
[00:56] <ubotu> pipsecd: IPsec tunnel implementation. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:19990511-28ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 25 kB, installed size 164 kB
[00:56] <labkom> cftbhh uk
[00:57] <OuZo> hi, how or were do i change my DPI ? thanks
[00:58] <francisco> hola farolas
[00:59] <francisco> hi
[00:59] <francisco> hola
[01:00] <DaSkreech> !hi
[01:00] <ubotu> Hi!  Obrigado.
[01:02] <Nilsinho> Alguém sabe como ajudar?
[01:08] <TooEarly> is there any log or command to show when you installed your os
[01:12] <margarita> hola :D
[01:13] <Dragnslcr> TooEarly- uname -a might be what you're looking for
[01:13] <firecrotch> TooEarly: Not that I know of, but you could just look for the file creation date of the install log
[01:13] <labkom> upillll
[01:13] <firecrotch> TooEarly: or it appears that Dragnslcr is correct, uname -a will tell you
[01:13] <labkom> !upgrade
[01:13] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:14] <margarita> hola :D
[01:14] <labkom> hola for u...
[01:16] <labkom> asuuuuuu..........bajingaaaaaaaaannnnnn
[01:24] <andrewlin> Can anyone tell me what the channel for emerald or compiz is?
[01:24] <newuser> ok...another install...  is there a shortcut for terminal   I DO NOT have one on my sys menu
[01:25] <tekteen> andrewlin: here
[01:25] <tekteen> andrewlin: for kubuntu :=)
[01:25] <tekteen> :-)*
[01:25] <NickPresta> andrewlin, #compiz-fusion
[01:25] <newuser> i found it
[01:26] <andrewlin> yes, for kubuntu, thnx nick
[01:27] <newuser> dr willis are u still up
[01:27] <DaSkreech> newuser: open konqueror and press F4
[01:28] <BluesKaj> newuser, not listed in the kmenu under "System" ?
[01:28] <DaSkreech> newuser: install yakauake and press F12
[01:28] <newuser> yes I got it......
[01:28] <DaSkreech> newuser: press Alt+space and type konsole
[01:28] <newuser> what is the string to install the kubuntu restricted extras?
[01:28] <newuser> im in root
[01:29] <BluesKaj> !restricted formats | newuser
[01:29] <ubotu> newuser: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:45] <dmcglone> did anyone else see that whois query?
[01:45] <sub[t]rnl> its client side
[01:45] <dmcglone> ok
[01:45] <Manad> hi
[01:46] <tekteen> hi
[01:46] <DaSkreech> !hi
[01:46] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:46] <Manad> when I switch user ("start a new session"), the screen goes black and the computer no longer responds until I do a hard reset. Any ideas why?
[01:46] <Xcell> Teeeyaw!
[01:47] <dmcglone> Hello X
[01:47] <Xcell> Hey, hey.
[01:47] <dmcglone> I tried to send you a message earlier
[01:47] <Xcell> I havent registered this nic yet?/ Will later today.
[01:48] <Xcell> my hukt un fonix fer keebords is fsiling.
[01:48] <DaSkreech> !register Xcell
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about register xcell - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <DaSkreech> !register | Xcell
[01:48] <ubotu> Xcell: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[01:48] <Xcell> t/y
[01:48] <dmcglone> it's easy
[01:48] <Xcell> brb
[01:50] <dmcglone> DM you from columbus?
[01:51] <Xcell> done
[01:51] <dmcglone> cool
[01:51] <Xcell> I'm official
[01:51] <dmcglone> well it tells me I can't send you a message
[01:51] <Xcell> I just sent bill gates a linux xmas card.
[01:51] <Xcell> ?
[01:52] <Xcell> let me re log in
[01:53] <jagcorvair> Hello all. How do I change my resolution to be 1280x768 @ 60Hz?
[01:53] <dmcglone> system settings -> monitor
[01:53] <jagcorvair> I have 1280x768, but not 60Hz
[01:54] <jagcorvair> Sorry, dmcglone
[01:54] <dmcglone> sorry for what?
[01:54] <jagcorvair> dmcglone: Not disclosing full issue
[01:55] <sub[t]rnl> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <- you'll be able to generate resolutions as well as set Monitor refresh rates
[01:56] <dmcglone> just go to system settings then click on monitor and display and adjust the slider change the dropdown to 60hz
[01:56] <jagcorvair> sub[t]rnl: I have a set range, but how do I get it to be specifically @ 60Hz? The issue isn't when logged in, but during the boot splash screen. The screen goes blank and it tells me that I need to be at 1280x768 @ 60Hz.
[01:57] <jagcorvair> The screen with Kubuntu and the bar under it doesn't show during boot and shutdown/reboot.
[01:57] <dmcglone> I have the same issue
[01:57] <dmcglone> I just bear with it.
[01:58] <sub[t]rnl> i had the issue, its fixable
[01:58] <jagcorvair> 51Hz and 55Hz are my only options.
[01:58] <jagcorvair> This wasn't happening earlier. Nothing has changed.
[01:58] <dmcglone> I tried adding the vga line to grub but never worked for me
[01:59] <jagcorvair> :(
[02:01] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, if you want to get framebuffering to work for your tty's comment the "blacklist vesafb" (but leave uncommented every others) line in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer. add "fbcon" and "vesafb" in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules. add the vga=xxx in your menu.lst. Finally "sudo update-initramfs -k all -u" to apply ...
[02:01] <Manad> what does tty mean?
[02:01] <jagcorvair> So no way of fixing the refresh rate with 1280x768?
[02:01] <dmcglone> terminal console Manad
[02:03] <jagcorvair> Manad: TTY stands for Tele TYpwriter
[02:04] <dmcglone> what happened X?
[02:04] <Xcell> Oh well it says im registered but my pass wony go.
[02:04] <Xcell> wont
[02:04] <dmcglone> oh
[02:04] <dmcglone> lets see if I can PM you
[02:04] <Xcell> hit it
[02:05] <dmcglone> nope. doesn't work, maybe it's me
[02:05] <Xcell> How can I reset everything
[02:06] <dmcglone> X are you using konversation?
[02:06] <Xcell> pidgin
[02:06] <dmcglone> oh. let me try logging out and back with a password
[02:06] <Xcell> k
[02:07] <Xcell> lol  his failed 2
[02:07] <Minataku> TTY, or Tele TYpewriter is a historic thing
[02:08] <Minataku> When terminals were electromechanical typewriters connected to the host system via telephone
[02:09] <dmcglone> X I added my password seems to work for me
[02:09] <Xcell> interesting..I would like to reset but like the nic.
[02:10] <dmcglone> well didn't work. I don't know how to use pidgon or whatever you called it
[02:10] <Xcell> hang on brb
[02:10] <DaSkreech> Minataku: I heard that many cycles ago there was device that would have actual things that folded around data inputs to keep them separate and they were called folders!
[02:10] <DaSkreech> how silly was that?
[02:10] <DaSkreech> When they could have had a tagged database :)
[02:11] <Minataku> lol
[02:12] <dmcglone> how do I verify my nick is registered?
[02:12] <DaSkreech> Login
[02:13] <dmcglone> LOL I know that, but i'm not sure I set konversation up correctly so I don't know if it's actually using my password
[02:14] <sub[t]rnl> query someone
[02:14] <DaSkreech> I can query and not be logged in
[02:14] <DaSkreech> I can't PM though
[02:14] <dmcglone> yeah, thats the same here
[02:14] <DaSkreech> dmcglone: on the server tab Nickserv should tell you that you are logged in
[02:15] <dmcglone> ah Ok, I was correct, i'm not logged in
[02:16] <dmcglone> tells me the password is incorrect
[02:16] <kub^> when i try to access system settings | advanced | disk & filesystems i get the following error page http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3171/snapshot4hp2.jpg
[02:16] <DaSkreech> Yeah if it wasn't for Fedora I'd never remember mine
[02:16] <dmcglone> It's been a long time that i've been on IRC and I remember registering this nick but don't remember the password
[02:17] <DaSkreech> dmcglone: It's probably been deregistered
[02:17] <DaSkreech> !register | dmcglone
[02:17] <ubotu> dmcglone: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[02:17] <DaSkreech> If not then #freenode
[02:17] <dmcglone> i'm afraid to type the /msg nickserv command in here because I am afraid it will show my password
[02:18] <kub^> type it in the nockserv window then :)
[02:18] <kub^> nickserv *
[02:18] <Dr_willis> dont put a space at the fron tof the command line
[02:18] <dmcglone> I try that it tells me it doesn't understand the command. Let me try again
[02:19] <DaSkreech> dmcglone: go to the server tab that's only you and a computer no chance of anyone seeing it
[02:19] <XceII> yay
[02:19] <dmcglone> Ok got it, it tells me my nick is already registered
[02:19] <DaSkreech> or just type /msg nickserv help
[02:19] <DaSkreech> then you can have a nice long chat with it
[02:19] <popopo> hi again
[02:19] <dmcglone> let me try a different password
[02:20] <dmcglone> how did you do it X?
[02:20] <XceII> im me
[02:20] <popopo> how can I make my english kubuntu display in french? Usually there is a language selection at the logon menu, but  I don't see one in Kubuntu.
[02:20] <dmcglone> X I got your message but I can't reply
[02:20] <dmcglone> it's me thats got the problem
[02:20] <XceII> oi
[02:20] <dmcglone> let me try to remember my password
[02:20] <XceII> That dont make sense.
[02:21] <dmcglone> what don't make sense?
[02:21] <XceII> U got mine but I cant see U
[02:22] <dmcglone> because i'm not logged in
[02:22] <XceII> k
[02:22] <dmcglone> using wrong password, I need to log out and log back in with different password
[02:23] <XceII> k
[02:23] <dmcglone> if I can remember it.. LOL I got a few I remember from when I registered in the stone age
[02:23] <XceII> No worries.
[02:23] <dmcglone> I'll be back
[02:27] <devinus> how can i see what model harddrive i'm using?
[02:27] <DaSkreech> With prescription glasses! :)
[02:28] <DaSkreech> though I suspect lshw will help as well
[02:28] <dmcglone> Hmmm seems I don't know my password anymore
[02:28] <popopo> sometimes when I'm doing an apt-get install, it asks me for the CD. What if I don't have the CD, how can I make it download the package instead?
[02:28] <DaSkreech> #freenode
[02:29] <DaSkreech> popopo: remove the Cd entry from sources.list
[02:29] <XceII> replace your (l) with capitol i
[02:29] <dmcglone> DaSkreech was that for me?
[02:29] <DaSkreech> dmcglone: yes sir
[02:29] <DaSkreech> assuming you are male
[02:30] <popopo> ok, thanks
[02:30] <dmcglone> DaSkreech now what am I supposed to do, convince them I forgot my password?
[02:30] <dmcglone> LOL
[02:30] <DaSkreech> follow along they are more experinced with this than you are :)
[02:31] <dmcglone> of course they are :)
[02:33] <XceII> How fitting.
[02:34] <dmcglone> I'm working on it
[02:34] <dmcglone> LOL
[02:34] <XceII> k
[02:34] <DaSkreech> !caps
[02:34] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:36] <dmcglone> what I shouting?
[02:36] <dmcglone> oh lord, hope I don't get kicked
[02:37] <dmcglone> :)
[02:37] <dmcglone> I can't seem to remember my password
[02:37] <XceII> Do as I said earlier..re-do it ^
[02:38] <XceII> Its what I did
[02:38] <Minataku> Nicknames don't expire here
[02:38] <dmcglone> Ah I took a darn good guess
[02:38] <XceII> Minataku: Scroll up
[02:38] <dmcglone> got it
[02:39] <XceII> k
[02:54] <XceII> .
[02:56] <dmcglone> i'm back
[02:56] <makuseru> are there any other audio recording/editing programs that are free, besides audacity?
[02:56] <dmcglone> soundgarden
[02:57] <dmcglone> oh by the way, X do you have an AIM screen name?
[02:57] <XceII> no
[02:57] <XceII> yet
[02:57] <dmcglone> no other chat program you use other than IRC?
[02:58] <XceII> na  just info and some political science
[02:59] <XceII> let me try that brb
[03:00] <dmcglone> k
[03:04] <Nvrnight> I have a problem getting started with Ubuntu, after it completely loads my monitor turns off, anyone know how to fix this?
[03:05] <dmcglone> does the power button turn it back on?
[03:05] <Nvrnight> I turn it off and back on and the light is still orange
[03:05] <Minataku> It's being sent an unusable signal
[03:05] <Nvrnight> like when a system goes into standby
[03:05] <dmcglone> does the monitor come back on though?
[03:06] <Minataku> The monitor is shutting itself off to prevent damage
[03:06] <Nvrnight> hmm
[03:06] <Minataku> If it tried to display the signal it's getting, it would burn out
[03:06] <dmcglone> wrong Xorg settings
[03:06] <Nvrnight> alright
[03:06] <Nvrnight> what should I do?
[03:06] <Minataku> You likely need to explicitly tell the kernel what mode to use
[03:06] <Minataku> Does the video work up to where it would normally load X11?
[03:07] <Minataku> If you press Ctrl+Alt+F1 at that point, does the monitor turn back on?
[03:07] <Minataku> If it does, then X11 is at fault
[03:07] <Nvrnight> It works where it shows the loading bar and as soon as it gets to 100% it goes to the screen with a cursor, then shuts off like it's going into standbye
[03:07] <Minataku> If not, you need to specify to the kernel explicitly what video mode to use
[03:07] <Nvrnight> ctrl+alt+f1 didn't turn it on
[03:07] <Minataku> !vga
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vga - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <Minataku> Hm
[03:08] <Minataku> Then you need to tell the kernel what mode to use
[03:08] <Minataku> !cheat
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <Minataku> !cheatcodes
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheatcodes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <Minataku> >:|
[03:08] <Minataku> Stupid bot
[03:08] <Minataku> !bootoptions
[03:08] <ubotu> For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[03:08] <Minataku> Try that one
[03:08] <Minataku> You want the information on a boot option called "vga"
[03:08] <Nvrnight> alright
[03:08] <dmcglone> be careful how you talk to the bot you might get banned for abusing it...lol
[03:08] <Minataku> It'll be in the form of "vga=" and a hexadecimal number
[03:08] <dmcglone> or reconfigure the xserver
[03:08] <Nvrnight> ok
[03:09] <Minataku> Don't listen to dmcglone
[03:09] <deuryte> XCELL
[03:09] <Nvrnight> thanks for the help, I'm completely new to linux so this is a whole new world for me heheh
[03:09] <Minataku> No offense but you're just plain incorrect, dmcglone
[03:09] <dmcglone> whatever
[03:09] <Minataku> The kernel is using a mode that his monitor can't handle
[03:09] <dmcglone> really????
[03:09] <dmcglone> duh!
[03:09] <Minataku> X11 has nothing to do with this since the kernel itself is at fault
[03:10] <dmcglone> not exactly, he has his x server settings wrong
[03:10] <Minataku> Nvrnight: Just ignore him.
[03:10] <dmcglone> but whatever.
[03:10] <Nvrnight> so should I use "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-k7 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash vga=771"
[03:10] <dmcglone> I could care less, I know what i'm talking about
[03:11] <Minataku> Sure, if that's a video mode your monitor can handle
[03:11] <Nvrnight> lol I don't know what it can handle
[03:11] <Minataku> I'd remove quiet and splash
[03:11] <Minataku> Pick a low one then
[03:11] <andrewlin> Can anyone tell me why NONE of my sound is working?
[03:11] <Minataku> I'll give you mine, one sec
[03:11] <Nvrnight> alright
[03:11] <Minataku> vga=0x318
[03:11] <Minataku> Which should be 24bit color at 1024x768
[03:12] <Nvrnight> alright, I'll try it once it reboots
[03:12] <Minataku> Which your monitor should be able to handle
[03:12] <Minataku> Unless it's incredibly old
[03:12] <Minataku> Like I said, I'd also remove "quiet" and "splash"
[03:12] <Nvrnight> lol it might be pretty old, the computer isn't old but I think the monitor is
[03:12] <deuryte> EVENING.....    DOES ANYONE KNOW Y I CANT SEEM TO GET PAST THE "INITIALIZING MODEM" STAGE OF MY ZOOM SERIAL MODEM??  [sorry for caps],
[03:12] <deuryte> anyway, when i go to configure modem, it queeries and detects modem but then i go to look into the modem command set =  there is none, i even tried to manually set it up.
[03:13] <Minataku> This way we can see what's going on, and if you see a bunch of text scrolling by, then it IS your X Window System settings
[03:13] <Nvrnight> alright
[03:13] <deuryte> im using kumuntu freshly downloaded just yesterday
[03:13] <Darkrift411> i just ran updater and it updated my nvidia drivers. there was no flicker or restart, so does that mean the new drivers arent in use yet?
[03:13] <dmcglone> good luck Nvrnight.
[03:14] <Minataku> dmcglone: You MAY be right, but usually even if X11 feeds the monitor a bogus signal, switching to a VT where the kernel feeds a good one will return the monitor to a normal state
[03:15] <Minataku> Though in the case that X crashes or goofs up the keyboard, that won't be the case
[03:15] <dmcglone> you went for overkill, he could simply reconfigure his x server
[03:15] <Nvrnight> it's loading now, I'll let you know how it goes
[03:15] <Minataku> k
[03:16] <dmcglone> been there many times
[03:16] <Darkrift411> anyone?
[03:17] <Minataku> Darkrift411: Reboot the system
[03:17] <Nvrnight> monitor is staying on this time, but it doesn't display anything at all, the loading thing isn't even displaying
[03:17] <Minataku> Theoretically you could unload and reload, but rebooting would probably be an easier option if you don't know what you're doing
[03:17] <Minataku> Hm
[03:18] <Minataku> !video
[03:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[03:18] <Minataku> Erm
[03:18] <Minataku> Stupid bot
[03:18] <Minataku> That used to be a meaningful thing
[03:18] <Minataku> !nvidia
[03:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:18] <Nvrnight> lol
[03:18] <Minataku> That's for Darkrift411
[03:18]  * Darkrift411 is afraid to lol
[03:19] <Minataku> Nvrnight: Have you already installed Kubuntu, or are you trying to install?
[03:19] <Minataku> If you're trying to install, use the !alternate installer
[03:19] <Nvrnight> trying to install Ubuntu
[03:19] <deuryte> xcell
[03:19] <Minataku> In that case
[03:19] <Minataku> !alternate
[03:19] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[03:19] <andrewlin> Can someone help me with my sound? It's not working.
[03:19] <Minataku> andrewlin: Check the mixer settings.
[03:20] <dmcglone> well looks like reconfiguring the x server wasn't the answer
[03:20] <Minataku> Ensure that "Main" and "PCM" aren't muted
[03:20] <XceII> ya
[03:20] <Minataku> dmcglone: Told you it was the kernel
[03:20] <Minataku> lol
[03:20] <Minataku> I compile my own kernels and have fought with video issues
[03:20] <Nvrnight> I downloaded "Ubuntu 7.10", the desktop edition
[03:20] <dmcglone> it wasn't that either, he hasn't even installed.
[03:20] <XceII> kernel who.
[03:20] <dmcglone> lol
[03:21] <Minataku> Well, the issue is that the kernel on the normal install CD is trying to do something that his video system doesn't like
[03:21] <deuryte> i just spent alot of time. got much info. will be trying to figure this out, youd think the developers would have been just a little more3 easier
[03:21] <XceII> !register | deuryte
[03:21] <ubotu> deuryte: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[03:21] <Minataku> Nvrnight: Get the alternate installer
[03:21] <XceII> so we can private
[03:21] <dmcglone> I think he didn't have enough memory to run the graphical install
[03:22] <dmcglone> or at least had enough but it was really slow
[03:22] <Minataku> Speculation is useless
[03:22] <Minataku> Assist or be silent
[03:22] <Minataku> Nvrnight: Either way, use the alternate installer
[03:22] <Minataku> That should work for you.
[03:22] <dmcglone> wow your on a roll tonight
[03:23] <Minataku> dmcglone: Making pointless assumptions about one's computer isn't going to help anyone.
[03:23] <Minataku> I recommend you check the Code of Conduct.
[03:23] <Darkrift411> well, i made it
[03:23] <Minataku> !CoC > dmcglone
[03:23] <Darkrift411> seems to be running correctly
[03:23] <Minataku> Darkrift411: Great to hear!
[03:23] <deuryte> xcell...........  anyway, when i go to configure modem, it queeries and detects modem but then i go to look into the modem command set = there is none, i even tried to manually set it up.
[03:23] <Minataku> :D
[03:23] <Minataku> !modem
[03:23] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[03:24] <Minataku> Try that link, deuryte
[03:24] <deuryte> ty
[03:24] <Minataku> np
[03:24] <Nvrnight> it'll be downloaded in a half hour, I'm not going to bed till it works, which might hurt my performance and work tommorrow but I don't care lol
[03:24] <Minataku> Heh
[03:24] <Minataku> I'd say go to sleep while it downloads
[03:24] <XceII> Thanks Minataku.
[03:24] <Minataku> Tired and cranky doesn't make for a good state for installing anything
[03:24] <Minataku> XceII: You're welcome
[03:25] <Minataku> I guess
[03:25] <dmcglone> I didn't see anything about pointless assumptions in the CoC
[03:25] <dmcglone> :-)
[03:25] <Minataku> Though I'm not sure how I helped you
[03:25] <Minataku> lol
[03:25] <XceII> For the modem link
[03:25] <deuryte> im loading now, but keep in mind, its a external zoom serial modem,  using latest kumuntu, with kppp
[03:25] <Minataku> Oh
[03:25] <XceII> deu is my brother
[03:25] <Minataku> Well, you're welcome
[03:25] <Minataku> lol
[03:25] <Minataku> Ah!
[03:25] <Minataku> That would explain things
[03:25] <Minataku> lol
[03:25] <Nvrnight> tired and cranky is how I get stuff done, lol
[03:25] <Minataku> Heh
[03:25] <Nvrnight> that's college life
[03:26] <Minataku> I prefer panicked and out of time
[03:26] <XceII> Yesterday I put kubuntu on useing hight speed..so he went home to dialup .
[03:26] <Minataku> My best work comes at the last minute
[03:27] <deuryte> i might even have all the anwers i need already, ive got the kppp manual, plus the info u just sent on a thumb, ready to decifer........
[03:28]  * dthacker prepares to gnomeslap Klamav, which is not quitting when told to.
[03:28] <deuryte> way too much home work for a dumb dial up connection.........  c'mon!! developers !!!!!
[03:28] <Nvrnight> Minataku, you been using linux a long time? You seem pretty knowledgeable
[03:28] <Nvrnight> I remember using dial up, that was about 8 years ago though
[03:29] <Minataku> About 3 years
[03:29] <Minataku> Though everything computers and electronics is natural to me
[03:29] <XceII> It would be nice if some one helped him make it work
[03:29] <sub[t]rnl> robo cat
[03:29] <Minataku> I used SuSE for about a year then switched to Gentoo where I've been since
[03:29] <Nvrnight> when I get back on dial up I feel like a turtle crossing the street, slowly getting to the other side with a chance of being cut off
[03:29]  * dthacker does not miss dial up
[03:29] <Minataku> lol
[03:30] <Minataku> Heya, sub[t]rnl
[03:30] <sub[t]rnl> heyas :D
[03:30]  * Minataku wags his three fox tails and flicks a cheetah ear playfully
[03:30] <Minataku> ^^
[03:30]  * sub[t]rnl snuggles
[03:30]  * Minataku purrs and cuddles back
[03:30] <Minataku> X)
[03:30] <dthacker> I used to run a datacenter where 30 branch offices dialed in to unix box.  yuck.
[03:31] <Minataku> But yeah, I've learned a lot about Linux/Unix/etc
[03:31] <XceII> deu..go to #ubuntu..they help people over there
[03:31] <Minataku> I've got other machines running NetBSD
[03:31] <deuryte> 4
[03:31] <dmcglone> LOL Xcell
[03:31] <Minataku> Various architectures like SPARC and PMAX
[03:31] <Minataku> SPARC is my favorite
[03:31] <Nvrnight> coo
[03:31] <Minataku> I've also got a SunOS 4.1.4 box that needs fixing
[03:31] <dmcglone> I wonder how long they will help him before they get attitude
[03:32] <dmcglone> Like some people I know
[03:32] <Minataku> And one that's PReP and running AIX 4.3.3
[03:32] <Minataku> I'm a collector
[03:32] <XceII> Me 2  seems like you cant get help anywhere anymore.
[03:32] <Minataku> I've also got a couple of DOS machines
[03:32] <Minataku> Since DOS is pretty versatile and the best choice for older boxes
[03:32] <dmcglone> or told to shut up because you threaten someones intelligence
[03:33] <Minataku> Especially ones that are PC/XT Compatible laptops
[03:33] <XceII> typical
[03:33] <Minataku> lol
[03:33] <dthacker> Minataku: have you worked with an Alpha?
[03:33]  * dthacker has inherited a 4 way server
[03:33] <Minataku> I still lack a working Alpha
[03:33] <Minataku> I have an AlphaPC mainboard
[03:34] <Minataku> I also had a really old Alpha, too
[03:34] <Minataku> Both are non-functional :(
[03:34] <dthacker> I have an IBM J30, too, but I haven't fired it up recently.
[03:34] <Minataku> The old Alpha had a blown SCSI chip
[03:34] <deuryte> xcell.  go here........irc://freenode/%23ubuntu..they
[03:34] <Minataku> The mainboard is just trashed somehow
[03:34] <Minataku> But we should take this to #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:35] <Nvrnight> I got disconnected, heh
[03:35] <dthacker> nah, I should just go start learning my packaging.  good localtime all.
[03:35] <Minataku> Aw
[03:35] <Minataku> lol
[03:35] <Minataku> I wanted to talk more XD
[03:36] <dmcglone> dthacker too much info ;-)
[03:36] <Minataku> 0
[03:36] <Minataku> Oops
[03:36] <Minataku> lol
[03:37] <XceII> deuryte #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:37] <TheFishy> its a bit busy in ubuntu... so ill ask in here cause its a kde question really...
[03:37] <TheFishy> anyways
[03:38] <TheFishy> whats a good browser for kde?
[03:38] <Minataku> Firefox
[03:38] <TheFishy> i hate firefox anything else?
[03:38] <TheFishy> i have tried several
[03:38] <TheFishy> konqueror...
[03:38] <dmcglone> try opera
[03:39] <TheFishy> tried it
[03:39] <TheFishy> annoying features
[03:40] <Minataku> If you hate features, try Dillo
[03:40] <dmcglone> I agree fishy, I didn't like it either
[03:41] <Minataku> If you hate yourself, try Internet Explorer
[03:41] <dmcglone> I stuck to konqueror
[03:41] <Minataku> lol
[03:41] <dmcglone> lol
[03:41] <dmcglone> lol
[03:41] <TheFishy> lol
[03:41] <TheFishy> nice
[03:41] <TheFishy> dillo is that a serious browser
[03:41] <Minataku> Yeah
[03:41] <Minataku> Extremely light
[03:41] <Minataku> No Javascript
[03:41] <Minataku> No CSS
[03:42] <Minataku> It's actually a very good browser
[03:42] <Minataku> Though it's really featureless
[03:42] <TheFishy> ugh
[03:42] <TheFishy> i dont like featureless type like flash
[03:42] <TheFishy> i just dont want gestures
[03:42] <TheFishy> and all that crap
[03:42] <TheFishy> i want java css and flash
[03:43] <TheFishy> if i didn't i would use lynx
[03:43] <Minataku> Firefox has no gestures stock
[03:43] <dmcglone> just use konq
[03:43] <Minataku> And it's customizable to the point where you can disable anything you don't want
[03:44] <marx2k> Has anyone seen the following message when running smbtree: "Server requested plaintext password but 'client use plaintext auth' is disabled"
[03:48] <TheFishy> opera is nice for me just i want to take off the speed dial stuff
[03:48] <TheFishy> anyone know how?
[03:48] <dmcglone> no
[03:49] <dmcglone> I don't
[03:49] <Minataku> I'd say modify the source code but OPERA IS PROPRIETARY
[03:51] <TheFishy> lol
[03:53] <thomas_newbie__> can someone help me with a binary question
[03:54] <radikale> hi
[03:54] <radikale> the updater crashed during updating
[03:54] <radikale> help
[03:54] <radikale> is it borked?
[03:54] <radikale> how to recover?
[03:55] <thomas_newbie__> i have a question about binary subtraction, but I don't wanna post it here. Can anyone help me in pvt?
[03:56] <radikale> heelo?
[03:56] <TheFishy> radikale:  just relaunch it
[03:57] <TheFishy> thomas_newbie__:  10 = 2 100= 3 101=4
[03:57] <TheFishy> its simple
[03:57] <TheFishy> 01 is 01
[03:57] <TheFishy> then u move the 1 over for each number
[04:03] <DaSkreech> TheFishy: what's wrong with konqueror?
[04:03] <TheFishy> its doesn't load flash right
[04:04] <Nvrnight> burning the cd now Minataku, it's only a matter of time now
[04:04] <TheFishy> minataku whats that
[04:04] <Nvrnight> ...before I go stab people at work
[04:04]  * TheFishy gives Nvrnight a knife
[04:04] <DaSkreech> TheFishy: loads it for me
[04:05] <TheFishy> meh it lags it up
[04:10] <TheFishy> does anyone know how to load up scripts in konversation
[04:10] <DaSkreech> konversation does scripts?
[04:11] <TheFishy> does it?
[04:11] <Dragnslcr> You can alias commands to execute shell scripts, yeah
[04:11] <Dragnslcr> Unfortunately, it doesn't have event handling, though
[04:11] <TheFishy> well i have a mirc script that allows me to accept or decline pms...
[04:12] <TheFishy> damn thats event handling
[04:12] <TheFishy> irc script*
[04:12] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, don't think you could do that in Konversation
[04:12] <TheFishy> what do u use? oh wait
[04:12] <TheFishy> xchat :P
[04:12] <Dragnslcr> I'm kinda surprised nobody has implemented it yet. Seems like it should be pretty easy for someone that knows the source code
[04:13] <Dragnslcr> Heh, yeah, I have one event-based script that I just can't quite let go of yet
[04:13] <surgy> !compiz
[04:13] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:13] <TheFishy> compiz sucks
[04:13] <TheFishy> :P
[04:14] <surgy> well i was looking for the name of what beryl turned into so that i can join the appropriate channel to ask questions
[04:14] <Dragnslcr> That'd be #compiz-fusion
[04:14] <surgy> Dragnslcr: thank you
[04:15] <TheFishy> Dragnslcr: does xchat support event handling
[04:17] <surgy> is there a program for kubuntu to set an alarm? an audible alarm?
[04:17] <Nvrnight> Minataku: It seams to be working now with that alternate cd
[04:17] <mot__> in the processes window
[04:18] <mot__> what's the difference between vmsize and vmrss
[04:18] <DaSkreech> surgy: on what event?
[04:19] <Dragnslcr> TheFishy- yeah, it does. You can use Perl or Python to attach functions to events
[04:19] <g2g591> surgy;kalarm .
[04:20] <TheFishy> i dont know those lanuages... do u know any sites that allows u to download scripts to add on?
[04:20] <Dragnslcr> Not offhand. I wrote my own
[04:20] <surgy> DaSkreech: on a time event, say play certain audio file at a certain time at a certain volume
[04:21] <DaSkreech> surgy: isn't that what kalarm is for?
[04:21] <surgy> DaSkreech: im unfamiliar with kalarm, but im installing it now :)
[04:21] <surgy> g2g591: thnx
[04:21] <wallabee> hiho
[04:22] <TheFishy> ugh GUYS stop apt-getting... its bogged down right now
[04:22] <surgy> TheFishy: lol, so you can use it?
[04:22] <TheFishy> yeah why not?
[04:22] <TheFishy> :P
[04:24] <Nvrnight> bleh, my installation is taking forever at 83%, I hope it's not frozen
[04:24] <Nvrnight> nvm, there it went lol
[04:24] <wallabee> same here ;)
[04:24] <wallabee> 83% hehe
[04:25] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: you have the cable plugged in?
[04:26] <neville__> Just for that
[04:26] <neville__> I'm going to go apt-get mode now =]
[04:26] <wallabee> sudo modprobe em28xx
[04:26] <wallabee> sorry wrong window
[04:26] <DaSkreech> neville__: sudo apt-get install *
[04:27] <surgy> did they ever fix the problem with kubuntu 64 where it had crappy support for 32 bit apps?
[04:27] <TheFishy> whats that command do?
[04:27] <neville__> I know how to use apt-get, I just wanted a reaction from that guy...
[04:28] <TheFishy> neville__: im done using it now
[04:28] <TheFishy> bog it down as much as u want
[04:28] <surgy> let me rephrase that, last time i tryed kubuntu 64 i couldnt use half my programs becuase they were 32 bit, but that was almost a year ago, has this been fixed?
[04:28] <DaSkreech> With boneitis?
[04:28] <DaSkreech> surgy: I have no idea what half your programs are and as such have no way of helping you
[04:30] <tazgodx_> how do i install a printer? and does anyone know if the lexmark 1400 series works on linux?
[04:30] <surgy> DaSkreech: lol ok, answered my question, ill wait, if i dont hear "every 32 bit app will work" then i dont want it :)
[04:30] <surgy> !printer | tazgodx_
[04:30] <ubotu> tazgodx_: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:31] <DaSkreech> surgy: 32 bit apps are bound to be wonky under a 64bit OS
[04:31] <surgy> DaSkreech: well then untill all my software is updated to 64bit then thats a no go for me
[04:31] <TheFishy> is there anyway to save the apt-cache search list to look through it later?
[04:31] <DaSkreech> surgy: are they open source?
[04:31] <DaSkreech> TheFishy: it is saved. Its local
[04:32] <surgy> DaSkreech: most some arnt
[04:32] <surgy> cedega for example
[04:32] <DaSkreech> you can pull out the cable and still apt-cache search
[04:32] <TheFishy> DaSkreech: so i will be able to do it offline?
[04:32] <DaSkreech> surgy: I think that you can pull the CVS and compile  cedega for 64 bit
[04:32] <DaSkreech> TheFishy: yes
[04:32] <surgy> DaSkreech: then what is the point of me paying for the precompiled version :)
[04:32] <DaSkreech> you can't apt-get install obviously but you can find what you want
[04:32] <TheFishy> DaSkreech: awesome. ty
[04:33] <TheFishy> of course.
[04:33] <DaSkreech> surgy: well if you are paying them complain
[04:33] <surgy> DaSkreech: i will
[04:34] <wallabee> anyone tried mirc with wine?
[04:36] <DaSkreech> wallabee: You like Mirc that much?
[04:38] <TheFishy> Mirc is crap
[04:38] <TheFishy> but it works with wine...
[04:38] <wallabee> a ok thanks
[04:38] <TheFishy> 4000b/s via apt-get :(
[04:39] <loaxx> wallabee dont run mirc in kubuntu
[04:39] <loaxx> konversation is actually ok.
[04:39] <loaxx> and bitchx is nice
[04:39] <loaxx> are you a mirc scripter ??
[04:40] <loaxx> www.aric.org
[04:40] <TheFishy> i am
[04:40] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: hi :)
[04:40] <loaxx> well, learn to tcl script.
[04:40] <wallabee> no i don't need it for me
[04:40] <DaSkreech> hello
[04:40] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: can you help me with a question thats killin me
[04:40] <loaxx> then have bots run your sripts
[04:40] <XceII> From what I have seen / kopete does it all.
[04:40] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47651/
[04:40] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: no clue
[04:40] <wallabee> just need it for my brother who switched to linux yesterday
[04:40] <thomas_newbie__> :(
[04:41] <loaxx> I really love kubuntu, ive been using it for a while. I went Kdesktop over gnome because we were using redhat with kdesktop at my school and thats what I learned on.
[04:41] <TheFishy> i hate where xchat's input line is
[04:42] <loaxx> but I am gonna switch soon to Debian with kde on it
[04:42] <TheFishy> time to purge
[04:42] <loaxx> aloy of people make fun of me for using kubuntu at home.
[04:42] <loaxx> alot.
[04:43] <TheFishy> i use linux mint kde version
[04:43] <TheFishy> kde rocks
[04:43] <neville__> Those people are silly
[04:43] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: does look wrong though
[04:43] <neville__> I use Kubuntu at home (like right now)
[04:43] <neville__> And the same happened
[04:43] <neville__> Until they actually saw it...
[04:44] <neville__> =]
[04:44] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: don't know why?
[04:44] <XceII> loaxx: Dont mind them..they are show offs waiting for a fall.
[04:44] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: only the first 4 digits are off
[04:45] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: where did you add the one?
[04:46] <Neoxeekhrobe> guys I am running Kubuntu on Intel p3 960MHz with 512mb ram. I will upgrade to 1G ram because Kubuntu sometimes gets slow and only 22% of ram is free when I am doing nothing. What I want to know is that is 1G ram enough or should I move to P4 with 1G ram?
[04:46] <XceII> I would suggest 1-2 megs of ram
[04:46] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: calculator says: 1101 1101 0010         my answer is: 1110 1101 0010
[04:47] <surgy> can i install kubuntu on a pocket pc? with a 300 mhz proc and 32 mb ram?
[04:47] <TheFishy> i have 2.4 ghz with 1 gb ddr 333
[04:47] <TheFishy> surgy: no
[04:47] <XceII> lol no surgy
[04:47] <wallabee> surgy: use familiar linux
[04:47] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: yes did in your working out where did you add the one?
[04:47] <XceII> dls linux may work=damn small linux
[04:47] <TheFishy> if i cant install it on my palm os 300 mhz 2gb ram u cant install it on that
[04:48] <DaSkreech> surgy: there is a Ubuntu mobile edition install hat install kubuntu and take off gnome
[04:48] <DaSkreech> then suffffaaaa!!!!
[04:48] <DaSkreech> <end 300 mode>
[04:48] <TheFishy> does ubuntu mobile edition support palm os devices
[04:49] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: i didn't.....its still there because theres nothing underneath 1110
[04:51] <wallabee> jihaa my cinergy dvbt usb card works hehe
[04:51] <XceII> yay
[04:54] <TheFishy> whats the min req for ubuntu mobile
[04:54] <XceII> google it
[04:54] <XceII> your modle
[04:55] <TheFishy> huh
[04:56] <XceII> google your model# of your component..it should have specs
[04:56] <Syntra> Guys, does Kubuntu block any ports by default?
[04:56] <XceII> oh..sry missed it
[04:58] <charmgene> hi, just installed compiz on kubuntu guty, but there are no iwndows borders. anyone can help?
[04:58] <sub[t]rnl> have you installed emerald?
[04:58] <charmgene> yes
[04:59] <sub[t]rnl> did you start compiz with --replace?
[04:59] <charmgene> yes
[04:59] <charmgene> and emerald does not take effect
[05:00] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[05:00] <sub[t]rnl> alt+f2 emerald --replace
[05:00] <charmgene> thank you i'll try it
[05:01] <Nvrnight> Does it take Ubuntu a long time at the "Cleaning up..." stage?
[05:02] <XceII> Whats the clean up stage?
[05:02] <Nvrnight> 97%
[05:02] <TheFishy> I am trying to get my palm tx to sync with linux mint (kubutu) can someone help me with it?
[05:02] <XceII> What command did you use
[05:03] <XceII> Nvrnight: What command did you use?
[05:03] <Nvrnight> I'm installing Ubuntu
[05:03] <Nvrnight> it says it's "Cleaning Up..."
[05:04] <XceII> ah  it is prolly still initialising then..let it go
[05:04] <Nvrnight> aight
[05:04] <XceII> It will prompt you for re-boot
[05:04] <Nvrnight> lol check this out in offtopic, hilarity
[05:05] <gadren> hey, i've got another question -- my sound isn't working at all.  I've set up mp3 support in Amarok, both mp3 and oggs are working (Amarok's visualizations are moving with the music), but i hear no sound from anything.  the volume is set right, by the way
[05:06] <TheFishy> did u try pluging in an audio output device?
[05:06] <gadren> what do you mean?
[05:06] <TheFishy> double check its plugged in, seriously happens to me
[05:07] <TheFishy> ...
[05:07] <TheFishy> like speakers
[05:07] <gadren> yeah, everything's plugged in
[05:07] <TheFishy> or headphones
[05:07] <TheFishy> u sure?
[05:07] <gadren> i changed amarok's sound output to oss, and it started playing
[05:07] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two's_complement
[05:07] <gadren> but when it's alsa or autodetect it doesn't work
[05:07] <gadren> how can i get it to work in alsa?
[05:07] <TheFishy> well then...
[05:07] <TheFishy> use oss...
[05:08] <TheFishy> what the difference of these modes?
[05:08] <gadren> well, i heard that alsa is more maintained and that it allows for playing multiple audio streams at a time
[05:08] <gadren> and i've had alsa working on this laptop before
[05:08] <TheFishy> can the palmdesktop be used with wine?
[05:09] <Level15> hmmm, hi everyone. my kmail does not want to decrypt msgs, it says bad passphrase, which is odd b-c it never asks for it... any ideas_
[05:09] <Level15> ?
[05:09] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: lol dude i've read through all that and more
[05:10] <Nvrnight> Ok, my Ubuntu loads to 100% and then my montior shuts off like the system is going into standby
[05:11] <XceII> move your mouse and see if it goes
[05:11] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: can you jump to terminal one?
[05:11] <Nvrnight> I just have a keyboard hooked up atm, do I need a mouse?
[05:11] <XceII> oi
[05:11] <Nvrnight> terminal one?
[05:11] <wallabee> use the space button
[05:12] <Nvrnight> it doesn't do anything pressing buttons
[05:12] <Nvrnight> it's not actually standby but the screen is shut off as if it was
[05:12] <Nvrnight> it does it everytime after the ubuntu loading bar gets to 100%
[05:14] <wallabee> Nvrnight, you can try restarting the xserver with   strg + alt + backspace
[05:14] <gadren> OK, i got it working.  Just to let y'all know, the command to get it working was "asoundconf set-default-card had-intel"
[05:14] <level1> Hi, something is using my disk space in /home at a rate of 2MB/s until the drive is full.  If I delete something to free up space, it will fill it up again.  is there a way I can find out what it is?
[05:14] <Nvrnight> strg?
[05:14] <XceII> ctl
[05:14] <wallabee> sorry its ctl
[05:15] <wallabee> ctrl ;)
[05:15] <Nvrnight> when should I press ctrl+alt+backspace when I restart?
[05:16] <level1> is there any kind of program that will monitor hard drive access in real time?  or tell me what the most recently accessed file is?
[05:16] <XceII> htop works
[05:16] <wallabee> no when the screen is black
[05:16] <Nvrnight> ahh, it doesn't do anything
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: does alt+ctrl+F1 get you anything?
[05:17] <XceII> it tells what is being uses and what %age is being used vis process
[05:17] <XceII> esed
[05:17] <Nvrnight> ctrl alt f1 does nothing as well
[05:18] <XceII> Nvrnight: In all my time monitoring the channel I never seen anyone boot or install ubunto with no mouse...not saying it isnt done.
[05:18] <XceII> Unless your on a laptop.
[05:19] <Nvrnight> I used alternate install cd
[05:19] <makuseru> !mount
[05:19] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:19] <Nvrnight> text based
[05:19] <XceII> ah..#ubuntu might be the room for that
[05:19] <Nvrnight> trying there as well lol
[05:19] <XceII> gnome is tex based while kde is gui
[05:20] <Nvrnight> they telling me to search forums
[05:20] <XceII> Not 2 many tech on this time of nite (subday) try in a time zone known to be monday day.
[05:20] <XceII> sunday
[05:21] <TheFishy> I am trying to get my palm tx to sync with linux mint (kubutu) can someone help me with it?
[05:21]  * Hydrogen is curious to know why typing too is too much work
[05:22] <sparr_> I have 'bind,auto' mounts in my fstab now.  when i rebooted, fsck dumped me into a maintenance console with nothing mounted because it couldnt run on them (duh).  how can i avoid that?
[05:22] <XceII> Comes with the territory.
[05:22] <XceII> Handle it.
[05:23] <XceII> Wondrs why people nit pick out of personal duty.
[05:25] <DaSkreech> !bootoptions | Nvrnight
[05:25] <ubotu> Nvrnight: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[05:25] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: you are looking for vga
[05:25] <DaSkreech> Hydrogen: Me 2
[05:26] <XceII> Me (t2oo)
[05:29] <TooEarly> is there any log or command to show when you installed your os
[05:35] <Nvrnight> DaSkreech: k, I used vga=771(800x6 w/ 256 colors) and the monitor still turns off as if the system was going into standby
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: and alt+ctrl+F1 still doesn't work?
[05:35] <Nvrnight> right
[05:36] <Level15> Nvrnight: do vga=normal
[05:36] <Nvrnight> k
[05:37] <Nvrnight> awsome it worked, you're my new hero level15, you just gained enough xp for level16, you win the internet
[05:38] <Nvrnight> nvm I spoke too soon, it went through a whole lot of bootup stuff and then it shut off again
[05:40] <Level15> HAHAHA
[05:40] <XceII> oi
[05:40] <Level15> it probably shut off when X started or something
[05:40] <Level15> could you describe exactly what was the las thing you say on the screen?
[05:41] <Level15> *last
[05:41] <Nvrnight> I'll run it again and see what it says last
[05:42] <XceII> stop miss spelling..there are hidden grammatical programmers watching.
[05:42] <Level15> hahaha
[05:42] <XceII> 2 b or not 2 b.
[05:43] <Nvrnight> something about battery stats and then it does one more line and it shut off before I can tell what that line says
[05:44] <XceII> wow r U on bat right now?.if not take the bat out and rely on supply...just a thought
[05:44] <Nvrnight> lol no I'm not
[05:44] <Nvrnight> it's a desktop
[05:44] <XceII> weird
[05:45] <Nvrnight> he asked what the last thing I see on the screen is before it goes blank
[05:45] <XceII> looks like x is looking like a laptop
[05:45] <XceII> @
[05:46] <XceII> Wonders if install was ok
[05:46] <Level15> try now the ctrl+alt+f1 thing
[05:46] <XceII> what are you running..
[05:47] <Nvrnight> ctrl+alt+f1 does nothing
[05:49] <Nvrnight> gonna try it with another monitor
[05:49] <Daisuke-Ido> then try ctrl+alt+f2
[05:49] <Nvrnight> a more up to date one
[05:50] <XceII> Nvrnight: What are you installing...ubuntu or kubuntu
[05:51] <Nvrnight> ubuntu
[05:51] <XceII> k
[05:51] <Nvrnight> well it's not the monitor, it does the same with a good monitor
[05:52] <Nvrnight> the last thing that appears on the screen is something about battery state
[05:52] <XceII> not having a mouse confuses me..
[05:52] <XceII> on a desktop
[05:52] <wallabee> lol
[05:53] <Nvrnight> I got one, just not on that computer lol
[05:53] <XceII> I think ya screwed up
[05:53] <Nvrnight> I don't think it's mouse related though
[05:53] <XceII> fight the good fight...rock on.
[05:54] <Nvrnight> maybe it has to do with my video card, ati radeon 9700 pro
[05:55] <XceII> Thinks that once an o/s is installed (*with) mouse..it can be configed @ a later time to do different
[05:55] <XceII> could be..get a mouse..their cheap..really.
[05:55] <abhra> Hi, Any body know why Quicktime quits with buffer overrun error. Please help
[05:56] <Nvrnight> I have mouses, just not on that comp lol
[05:56] <Nvrnight> I have 3 comps, my laptop, my desktop, and the desktop I'm trying to put Ubuntu on, only 2 mouses
[05:57] <Daisuke_Ido> your laptop has a touchpad, no?
[05:57] <XceII> Do the right thing..re install and use a mouse till U learn the o/s..this is a time waster.
[05:57] <XceII> Think Smart.
[05:57] <Nvrnight> lol how is learning the os going to help if I can't get it to boot up
[05:58] <XceII> Have a good one.
[05:58] <Nvrnight> fyi when I use the live cd it does the exact same thing, with the mouse hooked up
[05:59] <XceII> Then U may have the wrong write..try another 1.
[05:59] <XceII> What mobo and cpu do U have?
[06:00] <Nvrnight> Mainboard mb with intel pentium III cpu(not sure what speed)
[06:01] <XceII> And (burn) it at a slow speed (ensuring) quality.
[06:01] <XceII> Think Smart.
[06:01] <XceII> 700mhz?
[06:01] <Eicca> how come my Kcron wont work? I put 10.12 and 6:00 and to command "shutdown" and it did nothing.. o_O
[06:01] <Nvrnight> 800mhz
[06:02] <Nvrnight> now that I think about it
[06:02] <XceII> Re do the write.
[06:02] <Dr_willis_> Hmm, is kcron for user cron jobs or can it set up root cron jobs?
[06:02] <Nvrnight> k
[06:03] <XceII> And (use) a mouse..it can be changed later..
[06:04] <XceII> Stop using the room as a experimentation source/ That dont cut it and is a time waster.
[06:05] <XceII> Think Smart.
[06:05] <Nvrnight> I'm just trying to get a problem solved. That is all
[06:05] <Hydrogen> Eicca: you need to pass more parameters to shutdown
[06:06] <Hydrogen> Eicca: and run it as root
[06:06] <Hydrogen> Eicca: or use `poweroff` as root
[06:06] <XceII> Thats fine..but start from scratch and learn the o/s first.
[06:06] <Dr_willis_> Linux FUNdaMENTALS  ! :)
[06:06] <Nvrnight> How do you expect me to learn the o/s if I can't even boot it up
[06:07] <XceII> Nvrnight: Use a mouse and burn @ a slow speed....enjoy it when you do.
[06:07]  * Dr_willis_ has totally missed the problem
[06:08] <XceII> Nvrnight: With a graphics card..without a mouse..U are on your own
[06:08] <Nvrnight> I told you I tried with a mouse
[06:08] <Eicca> Hydrogen: so "sudo poweroff"
[06:08] <Nvrnight> I'm going to burn at the slowest speed to rule out that problem to
[06:08] <Hydrogen> Eicca: yes
[06:08] <Eicca> arent I supposed to give the sudo password then?
[06:08] <XceII> Dr_willisHe installed ubuntu without a mouse on a 800mhz sys.
[06:09] <Level15> i think there's a group called shutdown or something
[06:09] <XceII> with an old graphics card @ that.
[06:09] <Eicca> Hydrogen: well umm I want it to shut down at night :D
[06:09] <sigma> anyone know of some php software like ubuntu hive?
[06:10] <Dr_willis_> !php
[06:10] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:10] <Hydrogen> Eicca: you could add a rule to sudoers to do so..
[06:10] <Hydrogen> or you could add it to roots crontab
[06:10] <Dr_willis_> yep. roots crontab would be the way to do it i think.
[06:10] <Level15> sigma: what about hive itself?
[06:10] <Eicca> if I add it to roots crontab I just put "sudo shutdown" and I dont have to give the password?
[06:11] <sigma> i know about lamp, im looking for a program like joomla but one that manages a media collection
[06:11] <Hydrogen> you don't need sudo then
[06:11]  * Dr_willis_ though sigma ment 'have'
[06:11] <Dr_willis_> :)
[06:11] <XceII> be-have?
[06:11] <XceII> lol
[06:11] <sigma> Level15: isn't that project dead? if not where do u download it from?
[06:11] <gadren> does anyone have experience in setting up kgtk with firefox?
[06:11] <Hydrogen> kgtk?
[06:11] <Hydrogen> sounds like a bad idea
[06:11] <Level15> sigma: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Hive
[06:12] <Level15> sigma: dunno if it's dead
[06:12] <sigma> gadren: id also like to know how to do that
[06:12] <Dr_willis_> !info kgtk
[06:12] <ubotu> Package kgtk does not exist in gutsy
[06:12] <gadren> i've been trying with every .deb of it i can find, but when i try to run it with firefox, it either goes into a memory-eating infinite loop, or a segfault
[06:13] <sigma> kgtk is only on kde-apps.org , its a script
[06:13] <Level15> kgtk???
[06:13] <XceII> NYC?..geta rope...lol.
[06:14] <Hydrogen> err
[06:14] <Hydrogen> you should use
[06:14] <gadren> yeah, it replaces firefox's file dialogs with kde's
[06:15] <Hydrogen> gtk-qt-engine
[06:15] <Hydrogen> not some random script on kde-appps that got crapped out by someone
[06:15] <Level15> gadren: oh, that's cool
[06:16] <gadren> hydrogen, that's not the same -- gtk-qt-engine is for widget style, not for actual changes in dialogs
[06:16] <Eicca> hmm wtf, this is weird
[06:16] <Level15> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KGtk+for+Kubuntu+Feisty?content=67315
[06:16] <Eicca> yesterday I played Lemmingball Z and WoW (with wine) just fine
[06:16] <Eicca> but today nothing works :D
[06:16] <Hydrogen> hmm
[06:16] <Hydrogen> true
[06:16] <Hydrogen> then use opera
[06:16] <Eicca> I type in "wine WoW.exe" as usual and nothing pops out to the screen
[06:16] <Hydrogen> because firefox is almost as bad as gtk
[06:16] <XceII> lol opera
[06:17] <Dr_willis_> moasic!
[06:17] <Dr_willis_> Mosaic?
[06:17] <Hydrogen> and I do agree, gtk's file dialog is the worst adventure I've ever undertaken
[06:17] <Dr_willis_> :) i forget the spelling
[06:17] <Level15> personally, I can't wait till konq uses webkit
[06:17] <Hydrogen> the gimp manages to make it worse than usual
[06:17] <sigma> gadren: try flock, it has a amazing theme, looks kinda like kde
[06:18] <gadren> this isn't about themes, sigma :)  i already have a crystal theme for firefox
[06:18] <Dr_willis_> there is a flock theme for firefox. :) but its not 'quiet' the same
[06:18] <Dr_willis_> not really compared flock with firefox in depth however.
[06:18] <Hydrogen> I thought there was a way to choose the dialog type in firefox
[06:18] <Hydrogen> but maybe i'm actually thinking of opera
[06:19] <sigma> gadren: theres another alternative to the file dialogs
[06:19] <gadren> the about:config thing?
[06:19] <gadren> yeah, i know
[06:19] <gadren> but a while back, i had gotten kgtk working, but i can't for the life of me remember how i did it
[06:19] <Hydrogen> but
[06:20] <Hydrogen> use opera and your life will get much much better
[06:20] <Level15> sigma: yeah, avoid ff
[06:20] <Level15> use konq
[06:20] <gadren> thanks, but that's not what i'm looking for
[06:20] <gadren> i've tried both, by the way
[06:20] <Hydrogen> konq is opera lite.
[06:20] <sigma> level15: konq is hopeless
[06:21] <XceII> How so Hydrogen..I need to know..I didnt have good luck with it.
[06:21] <sigma> gadren: change ui.allow_platform_file_picker to false in about:config. it helps a bit
[06:21] <Hydrogen> XceII: that is an extremely open ended question
[06:21] <XceII> I know
[06:21] <gadren> thanks, sigma -- if i can't get kgtk working on my own, i'll do that
[06:22] <XceII> Hydrogen:  I use (no script) on ff.. what in opera would compare?
[06:22] <Hydrogen> speed
[06:22] <Hydrogen> opera is about 300x faster in doing everything
[06:22] <Hydrogen> than firefox
[06:22] <Hydrogen> and it uses qt isntead of gtk
[06:22] <Hydrogen> yay integration
[06:22] <Level15> Hydrogen: except, maybe, loading for the 1st time
[06:22] <sigma> if only there was a nice deb for kgtk, because that really integrates firefox
[06:23] <Hydrogen> Level15: maybe, I load it on startup
[06:23] <Hydrogen> so I don'[t notice it
[06:23] <XceII> interesting
[06:23] <sigma> hydrogen: i don't feel much of a speed diff
[06:23] <Level15> ff is a cpu + ram hog
[06:23] <emilsedgh> my knemo is not working right, i mean it always increase/decreases the sound, but most of the times it doesnt show itself (osd)
[06:23] <gadren> there are some debs for kgtk, sigma
[06:23] <Hydrogen> and the opera 9.5 snapshots are shaping up to be yet another riddiculous amount of speed faster
[06:23] <XceII> That makes sense though.
[06:23] <sigma> opera actually felt slower for me
[06:23] <gadren> but i just don't know if they're working for me -- when i try to use them, i get the errors i first mentioend
[06:23] <XceII> me 2 sigma
[06:24] <Hydrogen> sigma: err, numbers all support the opera
[06:24] <sigma> gadren: where did u find them?
[06:24] <Hydrogen> plus
[06:24] <Hydrogen> try navigating back a page
[06:24] <Hydrogen> its instant
[06:24] <gadren> i just googled for kgtk deb, and there were a couple on kde-apps
[06:24] <sigma> but its missing the "exception" to showing all images option
[06:24] <XceII> I'll stick with ff..opera did sem slower and had 2 many errors.
[06:25] <Hydrogen> also, mouse gestures (awesome).. the fact that it can handle more than ten tabs without using giant amoutns of ram..
[06:25] <Hydrogen> the fact that its at least mostly standards compliant
[06:25] <Hydrogen> and doesn't invent its own standards (hello firefox)
[06:26] <XceII> nah
[06:26] <wallabee> is there something like acdsee in kde?
[06:27] <sigma> gadren: did u have a problem installing it?
[06:27] <XceII> Opera is tempting....like a crack pipe.....enjoy.
[06:27] <XceII> lol
[06:27] <Hydrogen> you are relaly bad at making sense
[06:27] <praveenm> hi all, how to connect to my ubuntu server via XDMCP, is there any GUI or command to connect?
[06:27] <Level15> hell, I don't find a crap pipe tempting
[06:27] <gadren> well, the .deb files install fine, sigma, but when i try to use them, "kgtk-wrapper firefox" or "kgtk2-wrapper firefox", it says there's a segmentation error
[06:28] <Hydrogen> wait.. i shld say...  u dont make much sense...
[06:28] <XceII> Hydrogen:  sniff the clean air of (fire-fox)....enjoy.
[06:28] <Hydrogen> heh
[06:28] <Hydrogen> I can tell you've never looked at the code behind it
[06:28] <Hydrogen> its a nice cess pool
[06:29] <XceII> exactly..I realise that..
[06:29] <sigma> gadren: how exactly do u use them? keeps telling me that kdeinit can't find the file
[06:29] <XceII> opera is for porn users.
[06:29] <gadren> heh, i'm not sure, sigma
[06:29] <Level15> XceII: lol! why?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> wallabee: whats' accdsee?
[06:30] <XceII> it has (speed).
[06:30] <wallabee> acdsee the image proggl
[06:30] <wallabee> with database preview and so on
[06:30] <DaSkreech> try digikam
[06:30] <Hydrogen> well
[06:30] <Hydrogen> considdering everyone "uses" porn, I guess opera is for everyone!
[06:30] <XceII> c
[06:30] <sigma> lol
[06:31] <XceII> self telling,
[06:31] <wallabee> ok will try it thanx
[06:31] <sigma> why is opera the porn browser?
[06:31] <emilsedgh> i got a problem with restricted manager, its not getting saved, i check my wireless, it downloads the firmware and runs, but when i restart, it forgets about it
[06:31] <Cannoli> !network
[06:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:31] <XceII> !opera
[06:31] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[06:32] <XceII> Not commercial!
[06:32] <wallabee> XceII, thats for you  http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=5430343841227974645
[06:32] <Cannoli> !networking
[06:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <XceII> whats it about wallabee
[06:33] <Cannoli> !printer
[06:33] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:34] <XceII> I'm not your average lolly pop wallabee.  stay tuned.
[06:34] <wallabee> lol
[06:35] <gadren> say, i used to have a /usr/local/bin/firefox, but not anymore -- anyone know how to get it back?
[06:35] <gadren> reinstalling firefox through apt doesn't do it
[06:35] <wallabee> DaSkreech, had it installed but never tried it but digikam is exactly what i need hehe thanx
[06:36] <XceII> What did youbdo that the room doesnt know about garden
[06:36] <DaSkreech> !equivalents
[06:36] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[06:36] <DaSkreech> wallabee: ^^^
[06:36] <DaSkreech> If you want KDE versions of that list you can ask but that should help you for a few weeks
[06:36] <sub[t]rnl> gadren: locate firefox
[06:36] <sub[t]rnl> though /usr/bin/ should be default
[06:37] <DaSkreech> which firefox would be more helpful
[06:37] <emilsedgh> gadren: whereis firefox
[06:37] <XceII> The one that is more oranger.
[06:37] <XceII> lol
[06:37] <sigma> linux is so much better than windows, i can encode any video for my smartphone, in windows i could only encode a fraction of my collection
[06:37] <XceII> I agree sigma.
[06:37] <joseph> how do i look up my gateway adress ?
[06:38] <Nvrnight> ok I got my problem fixed lol, the command that fixed it is "vga=normal nosplash single"
[06:38] <sigma> daskreech: i like flock
[06:38] <emilsedgh> gadren: type that in konsole
[06:38] <DaSkreech> sigma: say that loudly anytime you pass someone :)
[06:38] <Nvrnight> just so you know for future reference
[06:38] <sigma> lol
[06:38] <gadren> i did
[06:38] <DaSkreech> sigma: wonderful
[06:38] <XceII> opers stinks though...dont do it......no waiting.
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: :)
[06:38] <gadren> i know that firefox is in /usr/bin
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: single?
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: thats' not cool
[06:38] <Nvrnight> yea, the screen doesn't go black now
[06:38] <Nvrnight> lol
[06:38] <gadren> but i could have sworn there was one in /usr/local/bin too
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: it doesn't work without single?
[06:38] <Hydrogen> only if you didn't install it through apt
[06:38] <Nvrnight> nope
[06:39] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: >_<
[06:39] <DaSkreech> that's bad
[06:39] <Nvrnight> they said I need to edit a .conf file for my video card
[06:39] <Hydrogen>  /usr/local is reserved for stuff installed otuside of ythe package management system
[06:39] <sigma> gadren: lol, perhaps u should delete that one
[06:39] <XceII> lol
[06:39] <gadren> oh, ok
[06:39] <Nvrnight> something to do with "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf "
[06:39] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: that would be right
[06:39] <DaSkreech> !resolution
[06:39] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:39] <DaSkreech> or read that link ^^^^
[06:39] <XceII> I just sent bill gates a kubuntu xmas card.
[06:40] <DaSkreech> XceII: as long as it was in ODF i approve
[06:40] <Hydrogen> and he just made antoher million dollars on windows sales
[06:40] <maduser2> whoa konverstion logged me off
[06:40] <XceII> ya it was.
[06:40] <Cannoli> !.ebuild
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ebuild - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <maduser2> now i can not use my identified name
[06:41] <Level15> maduser2: there's a way to tell nickserv to kick the other you
[06:41] <DaSkreech> maduser2: ghost it
[06:41] <sigma> xcell: lol where did u find that
[06:41] <XceII> lol
[06:41] <XceII> gimp
[06:41] <maduser2> how?
[06:42] <Hydrogen> maduser: /nickserv ghost nickname password
[06:42] <maduser2> thanks
[06:43] <XceII> brb
[06:43] <maduser> thanks
[06:44] <emilsedgh> DaSkreech: where is jucato?
[06:44] <DaSkreech> emilsedgh: out
[06:44] <Cannoli> can someone help me set up a printer please
[06:44] <DaSkreech> !printer
[06:44] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:44] <maduser> is it HP?
[06:44] <Cannoli> i looked up my printer but i cant seem to find a driver for it
[06:44] <Cannoli> no its lexmark x74
[06:47] <DaSkreech> http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-X74
[06:47] <DaSkreech> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkPrinters
[06:48] <XceII> check
[06:49] <maduser> ?
[06:49] <Nvrnight> I edited the file, do I do writeout or exit
[06:49] <sigma> brb chaps
[06:50] <XceII> k sigma
[06:50] <maduser> w00t
[06:50] <DaSkreech> Writeout
[06:50] <XceII> Yahoooooooo!
[06:50] <Nvrnight> it says ^O for writeout
[06:50] <Nvrnight> so what does that mean exactly, lol
[06:51] <maduser> he's using nano?
[06:51] <Nvrnight> yea
[06:51] <maduser> why not just use kate
[06:51] <Nvrnight> dunno what that is, all I know is I have to change this driver to Vesa
[06:51] <XceII> lol c?
[06:51] <XceII> vesa is your bet
[06:51] <maduser> the text editor
[06:52] <maduser> like notpad
[06:52] <Level15> or get a dellbuntu :P
[06:52] <Nvrnight> I have put vesa as the driver now, just got to save the changes
[06:52] <XceII> Nvrnight: is it ati or nvidia
[06:52] <Nvrnight> ati
[06:52] <XceII> oi
[06:52] <maduser> i haven't had that many problems with my ati card
[06:52] <maduser> considering it is 3 years old
[06:53] <XceII> Thats why
[06:53] <maduser> should i get a new ati or will that cause problems?
[06:53] <XceII> if it works..dont break it
[06:54] <maduser> I mean like uprgrade card
[06:54] <XceII> I wouldnt
[06:54] <maduser> ah
[06:54] <Level15> maduser: if u want new card and care abt acceleration, go to nvidia
[06:54] <maduser> cool
[06:55] <maduser> its also for a labtop
[06:55] <XceII> still
[06:55] <maduser> changing cards for that is a bitch
[06:56] <maduser> i guess ill stay
[06:56] <XceII> I can just see the flat head screw driver marks on madusers lappy..lol
[06:56] <Cannoli> how do i run a .install file?
[06:58] <Level15> Cannoli: probably chmod it +x and then ./myfile.install
[06:59] <Cannoli> ah ic
[06:59] <Cannoli> kk i'll try it
[06:59] <Level15> cya all
[07:00] <XceII> w/b
[07:00] <XceII> opera is now adjar.
[07:00] <sigma> lol
[07:02] <sigma> im getting a new 250gb sata hdd, should i foresee any problems installing it into kubuntu?
[07:02] <unix_infidel> no.
[07:02] <unix_infidel> XceII: adjar?
[07:02] <XceII> That would rock the house sigma.
[07:02] <XceII> unix_infidel: misplaced..un available.
[07:02] <Cannoli> hmm that chmod thing didnt work
[07:03] <Cannoli> how would i execute a .install file?
[07:03] <Cannoli> actually lemme check google first
[07:03] <sigma> lol i need somewhere to store my media collection, im msick of switching between dvd's, its so time-consuming
[07:03] <unix_infidel> Cannoli: chmod + x filename; ./filename.sh
[07:04] <unix_infidel> Cannoli: DISCLAIMER!!: if this package is available in repos, please install that package.
[07:04] <Nvrnight> hahahahaa it works now!
[07:04] <XceII> nice
[07:04] <Nvrnight> just had to use the vesa driver instead of ati
[07:04] <XceII> c
[07:04] <unix_infidel> XceII: available?
[07:04] <sigma> the vesa driver is rather hopless
[07:05] <XceII> nice job Nvrnight
[07:05] <sigma> hopeless
[07:05] <XceII> for tv out..i agree
[07:05] <sigma> which card was that for?
[07:05] <XceII> desktop
[07:06] <Nvrnight> Now I can learn about the o/s lol
[07:06] <XceII> intel 800 mhz]
[07:06] <sigma> oh ok
[07:06] <XceII> learn son..learn
[07:07] <system_> hello room
[07:07] <XceII> Nvrnight: now do the compize thing...lol..good luck.
[07:07] <Nvrnight> but first I'm going to learn what it's like to stay up late getting something to work knowing that I have to be up early for work the next day
[07:07] <Nvrnight> g'night peoples
[07:07] <XceII> sleep well
[07:07] <system_> can any one tell me how i connect to yahoo chat?
[07:07] <XceII> dream...about..vesa..lol
[07:08] <Cannoli> hmmmm
[07:08] <maduser> kopete
[07:08] <Cannoli> it seems that i cant keep a button pressed
[07:08] <XceII> kopete
[07:08] <XceII> hrm
[07:08] <Cannoli> like i cant hold down the "e" key and have multiple e's appear
[07:08] <system_> is a first time ubuntu user
[07:08] <Cannoli> i have to press the key multiple times
[07:08] <Cannoli> why is that?
[07:09] <maduser> my sound just went out
[07:09] <system_> ok now how do you get to the programming rooms?
[07:10] <XceII> kopete?..I installed 2 paper cups and a piece of wire..works fine.
[07:11] <system_> has no idea???
[07:11] <XceII> look @ roomlist
[07:12] <system_> i must have something different.
[07:12] <XceII> What U have
[07:12] <system_> It says Kopete
[07:12] <XceII> ah
[07:12] <sigma> why does pressing the up and down buttons not move through my message list in kontact?
[07:12] <system_> i can see my friend list
[07:13] <system_> but cant get to the rooms
[07:13] <sigma> isnt the room list only in Konversation
[07:13] <XceII> no
[07:13] <XceII> It exists inall formats..just different to get
[07:14] <Cannoli> hmm i still seem to be having trouble executing a .install file
[07:14] <Cannoli> i tried
[07:14] <Cannoli>  chmod +x lxx74.install
[07:14] <Cannoli> and
[07:14] <Cannoli> lxx74.install; ./asd.sh
[07:16] <unix_infidel> Cannoli: what's this package called.
[07:16] <Cannoli> what package?
[07:16] <unix_infidel> is this a printer driver?
[07:16] <Cannoli> yes it is
[07:16] <Cannoli> im following instrucctions posted here
[07:16] <Cannoli> http://home.online.no/~enrio/
[07:17] <unix_infidel> i rarely print on linux
[07:17] <Cannoli> i want to move my printer to my xp pc but no room there -_-
[07:20] <kaankee> hi can anyone suggest me a SVN for kubuntu... i am not able download SVN available through package manager.. it is asking for kubuntu CD and i dont have it right now..
[07:20] <XceII> add/remove/third party software...uncheck cd
[07:21] <XceII> software sources @ the bottem
[07:22] <Cannoli> im so lost at this installation
[07:22] <Cannoli> :(
[07:31] <XceII> Why not print on linux..
[07:35] <uchi> help m goin thru H withdrawals
[07:36] <uchi> ??
[07:36] <sub[t]rnl> wow, what?
[07:37] <uchi> yup
[07:37] <uchi> m freakin out
[07:37] <uchi> help
[07:37] <uchi> ne docs here?
[07:37] <XceII> ?
[07:38] <uchi> ne one ever hooked up on "H"???
[07:38] <sub[t]rnl> call 911 and get some detox
[07:38] <XceII> lol
[07:38] <XceII> htox
[07:38] <uchi> hey m goin thru withdrawals
[07:38] <uchi> not od man
[07:38] <uchi> hehe
[07:38] <uchi> shity day
[07:39] <XceII> why
[07:39] <sub[t]rnl> hugs not drugs bro, say it with me
[07:39] <uchi> hugs
[07:39] <uchi> hehee
[07:39] <uchi> nvm
[07:39] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[07:39] <uchi> its ok
[07:39] <maduser> drugs?
[07:39] <uchi> yeah
[07:39] <maduser> good drugs?
[07:39] <XceII> hugs
[07:40] <uchi> SMACK
[07:40] <uchi> :(
[07:40] <XceII> punk
[07:40] <uchi> wish i never started dis shit
[07:40] <maduser> yeah
[07:42] <maduser> have you ever seen the devil went down to jamaca?
[07:42] <XceII> only drugs do that
[07:42] <uchi> are there any docs in da house??
[07:42] <XceII> what did U do
[07:43] <uchi> i jus want sum advice
[07:43] <XceII> ask
[07:43] <uchi> how can i eas da suffering??
[07:43] <XceII> explain
[07:43] <uchi> heroine withdrawals
[07:43] <uchi> how can i ease it??
[07:43] <XceII> milk
[07:44] <uchi> cant drink man
[07:44] <uchi> i keep puking
[07:44] <XceII> more milk  puking is good
[07:44] <uchi> :(
[07:45] <XceII> NO city water eithet..50% dead microbes.
[07:45] <uchi> u donno nething abt this do u???
[07:45] <posingaspopular> offtopic guys
[07:46] <uchi> i live near da golden triange;
[07:47] <uchi> shit use to be abandunt till da cops crack donw las nite
[07:47] <XceII> silly boy.
[07:47] <uchi> girl
[07:47] <uchi> sry
[07:49] <XceII> ask jesus back into your life and straighten up.
[07:49] <posingaspopular> !offtopic
[07:49] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:49] <posingaspopular> last warning
[07:52] <maduser2> nickserv ghost maduser dashdan001
[07:52] <maduser2> arg
[07:52] <posingaspopular> maduser2: forgot a /msg there?
[07:53] <maduser2> no i got to ghost my name
[08:03] <wallabee> what is the best solution to install a telnet server?
[08:03] <maduser> ssh?
[08:03] <sub[t]rnl> go with ssh, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:05] <wallabee> ok installed it
[08:05] <wallabee> and how can i open the connection to this machine?
[08:06] <maduser> ssh username@ip
[08:06] <sub[t]rnl> wallabee: are you behind a router?
[08:06] <eshat> hi all ,... i have a problem with my function keys,... i set up global keys in kmix, but if i change volume with fn keys i don't see this little window with the volume bar,... any ideas ???
[08:07] <wallabee> jep im behind a router but i can forward the port later? cuz i want to test it on the machine i installed the ssh server
[08:08] <apparle> can aybody help me with kmix. I use OSS drivers
[08:08] <sub[t]rnl> you need to edit your /etc/ssh/sshd_config if you want it to be accessible from outside the router
[08:09] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, ah ok thanx
[08:09] <wallabee> and to test it on the same machine its ssh myusername@localhost   ?
[08:11] <sigma> lol one of my windows clients got a virus and it corrupted his bios, instead of saying "verifying dmi pool" it says terifying dma pool :)
[08:11] <neville__> =/
[08:11] <neville__> That's actually quite funny
[08:11] <apparle> I am unable to start kmix
[08:12] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, i entert the in the commandline ssh myusername@localhost but it hangs right after the command
[08:12] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl,  same with the ip i got from the router
[08:13] <sigma> i ripped myself over the phone!
[08:13] <sigma> he even tried to flash the bios and that didn't work
[08:13] <sigma> thats wen u know its game over:)
[08:14] <sub[t]rnl> !ssh | wallabee
[08:14] <ubotu> wallabee: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[08:14] <apparle> sigma: Is he able to open the bios setup
[08:14] <wallabee> /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[08:14] <wallabee> ups
[08:16] <system_> is lost in ubuntu!
[08:16] <system_> has no idea
[08:17] <apparle> anybody who can help me start kmix
[08:17] <wallabee> hehe installed putty and this terminated the xserver lol
[08:18] <eshat> hi all ,... i have a problem with my function keys,... i set up global keys in kmix, but if i change volume with fn keys i don't see this little window with the volume bar,... any ideas ???
[08:19] <system_> is frustrated with ubuntu
[08:19] <apparle> eshat: Is the volume changng when you press fn keys
[08:19] <ardchoille> system_: What do you need help with?
[08:19] <system_> i dont know how to connect to yahoo chat rooms?
[08:20] <eshat> apparle: yes ,...
[08:20] <sigma> apparle: ya apparently he can
[08:20] <ardchoille> system_: You can use kopete for Yahoo! chat
[08:20] <system_> all i see is my friends list
[08:20] <apparle> eshat: then whats the fuss. why do you wanna see the window
[08:21] <apparle> sigma: Then ask him to try fail-safe default values
[08:23] <sigma> hmm ya i 4got about that
[08:23] <Inferno> Anyone know why my vista drive wont allow me to access it anymore from kubuntu? says "permissions denied"
[08:23] <Inferno> when i try tp mount
[08:23] <neville__> Shut down Vista properly?
[08:23] <Inferno> yea
[08:23] <ubuntu__> salut
[08:23] <neville__> Reboot into it, then shut down, then go back into Kubunu, just to make sure
[08:24] <sigma> inferno: did u specify that any user may mount the drive?
[08:24] <apparle> ardchiolle: I use open sound drivers(OSS) instead of ALSA . As soon as I install the OSS package and reboot, KMIX stops. When I run kmix in konsole I get an error.
[08:24] <Inferno> honestly I'm a linux noob and it was working yesterday but when i booted today it didnt work so i think im gonna try to re-shutdown vista
[08:25] <apparle> Inferno: Did you get an error related to mounting of the vista drive while booting
[08:25] <Inferno> i didnt see one
[08:25] <sigma> apparle: why dont u use alsa?
[08:26] <apparle> sigma: I don't get any sound although correct module is loaded
[08:26] <wallabee> installed putty and the ssh-server thing but i cannot connect
[08:27] <wallabee> or is it not possible to connect from the same machine where the server is installed?
[08:27] <sigma> apparle: ah i see, the other sound systems are rather dodgy
[08:27] <apparle> sigma: what do you mean by other sound system??
[08:28] <sigma> apparle: anything besides alsa
[08:29] <ardchoille> apparle: Sorry, I can't help, I don't use sound.
[08:29] <sigma> ardchoille: how can u not use sound?
[08:29] <apparle> sigma: Linux had OSS drivers before ALSA was even developed
[08:29] <ardchoille> sigma: I'm deaf
[08:30] <idiocrash> hey, how do i get all codecs installed?
[08:30] <apparle> idiocrash: for which player
[08:30] <idiocrash> apparle: all of em
[08:31] <idiocrash> apparle: isn't there a single package that does what automatix did?
[08:31] <sigma> ardchoille: ah i see
[08:31] <apparle> idiocrash: Which player do you use kaffiene, MPlayer or VLC
[08:31] <sigma> apparle: then why are they so bad compared to alsa?
[08:32] <apparle> sigma
[08:32] <idiocrash> apparle: don't have a preference. In xubuntu, i was able to run a command that would install all the proprietary codecs. but I dont recall what that package name was
[08:33] <apparle> sigma: funny thing is I don't think they are bad as I hear somthing when I have OSS but don't hear anything when I have ALSA
[08:34] <apparle> idiocrash: you have kubuntu gutsy 7.10 or anything else
[08:34] <idiocrash> apparle: yeah, I'm on gutsy
[08:34] <sigma> apparle: my sound was rather choppy with oss
[08:34] <idiocrash> kubuntu
[08:34] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, ssh -v mycompname
[08:34] <apparle> idiocrash: install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:34] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, stops at debug1: Connecting to freedom [<IP_ADDRESS>] port 22.
[08:35] <idiocrash> apparle: kool thanks
[08:35] <Inferno> Still having permissions issues, I re-shutdown vista and didnt get any errors during boot except for my bad usb port
[08:35] <apparle> sigma: funny thing is kmix gives an error related to libasound.so which is related to ALSA
[08:36] <sigma> apparle: what soundcard do u have?
[08:36] <apparle> Inferno: Is the drive mounted or ot
[08:36] <apparle> sigma : ATI IXP SB450
[08:37] <apparle> Inferno: Is the drive mounted or not
[08:37] <Inferno> i dont think so, considering i have the option to mount it and theres no green arrow on the HDD icon
[08:37] <sigma> apparle: well theres the problem right there, ati:)
[08:37] <sigma> apparle: i have nvidia, works like a dream
[08:38] <apparle> sigma: I know ATI has problems but I can't afford to change the card
[08:38] <sigma> apparle: is it a onboard?
[08:38] <apparle> Inferno: Right click the drive and see the permission panel
[08:38] <apparle> sigma:yes
[08:39] <sigma> apparle: well then u are stuck with it, or you could get a cheap pci card and disable the onboard?
[08:39] <Inferno> how do i manage that
[08:39] <apparle> anybody here who has used windows as well as linux
[08:40] <apparle> Inferno: Right click and go to properties
[08:40] <Inferno> then
[08:41] <apparle> sigma: I want to show the error i get when I run kmix in konsole. How do I do that?
[08:41] <wathek> hello all
[08:41] <apparle> Inferno: Do you get the permissions tab
[08:41] <wathek> I've a big problem I can't install Kubuntu on my machine !
[08:41] <apparle> wathek: hello
[08:41] <Inferno> no, i just get general and mounting tabs
[08:41] <wathek> first of all I can't boot in a normal graphic mode I shows me initram
[08:42] <wathek> and nothing
[08:42] <apparle> wathek: what error
[08:42] <wathek> apparle: where can I check the error ?
[08:42] <Inferno> wathek: do you have a newer nvidia card?
[08:42] <apparle> genii: are you there
[08:42] <wathek> Inferno: I've an ATI Radeon X300
[08:43] <wallabee> ah one queation is it possible to get dualview (expanded desktop like) with the standard ati driver in kde (ati in xorg)?
[08:43] <Inferno> wathek: i had an issue with my card yesterday and i had to install in text mode then update the vid drivers and it fixed it
[08:43] <wathek> Inferno: how could I install in text mode ?
[08:44] <sigma> apparle: paste it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:44] <Inferno> wathek: use the alternate install cd and its the 1st option
[08:44] <Inferno> apparle: am i supposed to have a permissions tab?
[08:44] <wathek> Inferno: when I boot on my Kubuntu CD I've start or install Kubuntu and then start or install Kubuntu safe graphic mode
[08:45] <wathek> Inferno: and an other option for the OEM and for testing the cd or booting from hard drive
[08:45] <apparle> wathek: you see the VGA options while booting. set the desired resolution
[08:45] <wathek> yes
[08:46] <Inferno> Anyone have any ideas on why I cant mount and access my Vista HDD and I could yesterday?
[08:47] <apparle> Inferno: If the drive is not mounted then you will not get it . what error in status bar  do you get when you double click it
[08:47] <wathek> gonna try again
[08:47] <wathek> brb
[08:47] <Inferno> "Permissions Denied"
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[08:48] <apparle> Inferno: which drive format ntfs?
[08:49] <apparle> anybody who has used nero as well as k3b
[08:49] <Inferno> not sure
[08:49] <apparle> I get an error when I start Kmix http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47664/
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> apparle: ive looked at nero but k3b is pretty sweet
[08:51] <apparle> ActionParsnip: I know it is sweet but I am talking about functions
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> apparle: its next on my to do list but i cant advise from first hand. I can google though :)
[08:52] <WaltzingAlong> apparle: yes what do you wish to do
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> apparle: check this and wind down to OSS emulation (may help) http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA_sound_mixer_aka_dmix#OSS_Emulation_.26_dmix
[08:53] <wallabee> i hate this ssh thing cannt even connect to localhost
[08:54] <wallabee> from same machine where the server is started
[08:54] <WaltzingAlong> wallabee: works here
[08:55] <wallabee> installed server and tried ssh myuser@localhost and it hangs on connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> and then i get a connection timeout
[08:55] <wallabee> i have no firewall installed
[08:56] <maduser> whats your real ip not localhost
[08:56] <apparle> how to convert videos from one format to other
[08:56] <wallabee> is it not possible to connect from the same machine where the server is installed?
[08:56] <WaltzingAlong> apparle: mencoder transcode ffmpeg and so on
[08:57] <apparle> WaltzingAlong: tell me an encoder which will support all formats
[08:57] <WaltzingAlong> apparle: you tell me one. ffmpeg handles many
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> apparle: what are you trying to convert from - to?
[09:00] <wallabee> no chance with real ip too (port forwarding should be ok also tried on another machine)
[09:01] <wallabee> always get connection timeout
[09:01] <apparle> ActionParsnip: .mpeg to .3gp
[09:01] <sub[t]rnl> wallabee: still trying to get ssh to work?
[09:01] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, yes
[09:02] <WaltzingAlong> wallabee: did you set allowed hosts or denied hosts? was localhost in either list?
[09:02] <sub[t]rnl> is sshd running?
[09:02] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, tried to connect with external ip and portforwarding and with localhost
[09:02] <sub[t]rnl> ps ax|grep sshd
[09:02] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, ahhhh no didnt set these
[09:03] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, 7499 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[09:03] <wallabee>  7621 pts/2    R+     0:00 grep sshd
[09:03] <apparle> WaltzingAlong: I was asking which is better nero or k3b??
[09:03] <sub[t]rnl> you'll need to uncomment ListenAddress <IP_ADDRESS> in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, then sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart before you can connect from an outside ip
[09:03] <WaltzingAlong> apparle: i prefer k3b on kde
[09:04] <apparle> WaltzingAlong: what does it have better over nero
[09:04] <WaltzingAlong> i prefer foss on foss systems
[09:05] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, still no chance to connect strange thing
[09:06] <wathek> hello again
[09:06] <apparle> wathek: got it?
[09:06] <WaltzingAlong> apparle: have not used nero on linux but have on ms windows
[09:06] <wathek> apparle: I could boot now in a normal graphic mode
[09:06] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, also tried putty but its the same
[09:07] <wathek> apparle: I could boot now in a normal graphic mode 800x600 32 bits*
[09:07] <sub[t]rnl> wallabee: do you have both the openssh-client and openssh-server installed?
[09:07] <wathek> apparle: but still having an other problem I'm trying to partionnate manually my hard drive coz I've some data that I don't wanna lost
[09:07] <wathek> don't wanna loose
[09:07] <wathek> :p
[09:08] <wathek> so when I click on edit partition it does nothing !
[09:08] <apparle> wathek: does the install window close?
[09:08] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, jep both are installed ;)
[09:08] <wathek> apparle: no
[09:08] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[09:08] <wathek> apparle: it still there but nothing happen
[09:08] <sub[t]rnl> wallabee: show me sudo netstat -lnp | grep sshd
[09:09] <apparle> wathek: try to restart install
[09:09] <wathek> ok
[09:09] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:22              <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN     7647/sshd
[09:10] <sub[t]rnl> have you added any blocking rules to your iptables?
[09:10] <wallabee> if they are not added automatically then no
[09:10] <sub[t]rnl> no, everything is accepted in a default installation
[09:11] <wallabee> ok then no
[09:11] <dave_> Help, when i run adept a "database locked" error comes up and crashes my adept, how can i fix this?
[09:11] <wallabee> the only thing i uncommented is ListenAddress <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:11] <flaccid> !adeptfix | dave_
[09:11] <ubotu> dave_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[09:11] <sub[t]rnl> wallabee: anything in /etc/hosts.deny?
[09:11] <dave_> thankss
[09:12] <apparle> inferno: Is your problem solved
[09:12] <wathek> apparle: nothing happen !
[09:12] <wallabee> dave_, sudo killall adept and try it again
[09:12] <wathek> apparle: I can't edit any of the existant partitions
[09:12] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, no nothing everthing with a # before
[09:13] <llutz> anyone who uses a sony vaio fs-215 and got fn-keys working?
[09:13] <sub[t]rnl> what happens when you just do ssh localhost
[09:13] <apparle> wathek: Run the partitioner from Kmenu directly and see if it works
[09:14] <wathek> ok
[09:14] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, i did ssh -v localhost and it says connectig for a long time and then connection timeout
[09:14] <Inferno> apparle: no
[09:14] <wathek> the QtParted ?
[09:14] <apparle> wathek: yes
[09:14] <wathek> apparle: it works I can see the properties of each partition
[09:15] <apparle> Inferno: Is your drive NTFS or FAT
[09:15] <Inferno> apparle: NTFS
[09:15] <sub[t]rnl> wallabee: odd
[09:16] <apparle> wathek: edit the partitions there and then run install.
[09:16] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, yep so i need a smoke and will check more forums ;) thank you for your help
[09:16] <dave_> flaccid: thanks that worked:)
[09:16] <sub[t]rnl> wallabee: np
[09:16] <mips> I need LVM help
[09:17] <wathek> apparle:  all I can do there is delete the partitions or formatting it
[09:17] <flaccid> cool
[09:17] <apparle> Inferno: Again start vista and shutdown
[09:17] <mips> so no one knows lvm?
[09:17] <Inferno> yea i tried it a couple times, no dice
[09:18] <Inferno> apparle: no dice, do you think this will work http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=675
[09:18] <apparle> wathek: see if rebooting from live CD makes it work
[09:18] <wathek> apparle: huh ?! I'm working on the live D
[09:18] <wathek> CD
[09:19] <apparle> Inferno: I am myself a newbee and using linux only for a month. Still I will see
[09:20] <apparle> Inferno: you have gutsy 7.10??
[09:20] <apparle> wathek: yes reboot the live CD
[09:20] <Inferno> apparle: yes i do
[09:20] <wathek> apparle: I tried that
[09:22] <apparle> Inferno: then that will not work as gutsy has ntfs-3g install by default.
[09:22] <apparle> inferno: It has stopped mounting or it never got mounted
[09:22] <apparle> wathek: Try to change the CD
[09:23] <sourcemaker> Can I configure the calendar to show me the birstdays from kaddressbook.
[09:23] <wathek> apparle: huh !
[09:23] <Inferno> apparle: It never got mounted today, it did yesterday when my linux guru (out of state now) was here
[09:23] <wathek> apparle: I've installed Kubuntu with it on some other machines and it works well I received it from the Ubuntu Community :p
[09:24] <wallabee> another question is it possible to get dualview with the standard ati driver installed?(ati in xorg and dualview like expanded desktop)
[09:25] <apparle> wathek: Still try changing it!! I also requested CD and 1 was damaged out of the 3
[09:26] <wathek> apparle: ok
[09:26] <wathek> but I'd like to try something else before
[09:26] <wathek> apparle: how could i boot in text mode .
[09:26] <wathek> ?
[09:26] <apparle> wathek: the option is for alternate CD only
[09:27] <wathek> apparle: alternate cd ?
[09:28] <flaccid> !alternate
[09:28] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[09:28] <apparle> wathek: ship it does not send alternate CDs. you have to download it
[09:28] <wathek> ok
[09:28] <wathek> gonna download it
[09:29] <wathek> :)
[09:29] <wathek> rebooting :D
[09:29] <wathek> thanx a lot apparle ;)
[09:30] <Inferno> apparle: any ideas?
[09:37] <ardchoille> !ati | maduser
[09:37] <ubotu> maduser: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:48] <TheFishy> !ati
[09:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:49] <TheFishy> !ati | maduser
[09:49] <ubotu> maduser: please see above
[09:49] <apparle> inferno: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=628843 see this link
[09:52] <ardchoille> hi bazhang
[09:52] <elisiano> hi everyone
[09:52] <ardchoille> hi elisiano
[09:52] <bazhang> hi ardchoille!
[09:53] <apparle> hi bazhang
[09:53] <elisiano> ardchoille: how do u set your hostname like that?
[09:53] <bazhang> hi apparle!
[09:53] <apparle> how to cange the resolution of login screen(ATI)
[09:56] <sub[t]rnl> in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the login screen will use the first resolution available. Edit the "modes" line and put the desired one first
[09:56] <apparle> Inferno: did you try the link
[09:56] <apparle> sub[t]rnl: I don't have any modes line
[09:57] <sub[t]rnl> backup your xorg.conf, and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:57] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=359310 apparle a bit here as well
[10:05] <utnubuk> save on bandwidth :)
[10:05] <ubuntu_> hi, i just installed 7.10 on my computer, the install went good, no problems, it told me to restart to use the instalation, so i restarted and as its going through the grub it says "error:22 no such partition" what does this mean and how can i fix it?
[10:05] <utnubuk> shit wrong chat sry
[10:06] <ciacon_> hi folks... I have installed Kubuntu on my hdd, and was wondering how I can best make a complete backup of my hdd.... is "dd" the way to go?? can I tip the file on the fly?? is my mbr also included??
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: you could create a tar of it to another drive
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: or indeed you can dd it
[10:07] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=378322
[10:07] <apparle> Is there a better archive manger than ARK
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> apparle: i find ark to be fine. apparle how do you define "better"?
[10:08] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: I was planning to move over to gentoo... my hdd has a 50gb / and a 450gb /home partition and a 2gb swap... I would only need to backup the root fs (plus the boot-sectors....)
[10:08] <apparle> ActionParsnip: I want to open passworded .rar archives.
[10:09] <Inferno> apparle: bad link man
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> !unrar | apparle
[10:09] <ubotu> apparle: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[10:10] <Inferno> apparle
[10:10] <Inferno> apparle: nvm i got it
[10:11] <bazhang> ubuntu_: is this a dual boot with windows?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: I'm not sure about the boot sectors but you could write a new one
[10:11] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: how would that be done?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: id use dd but i'm not massively conversant with it
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: you can run the grub / lilo command and it will write it :)
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: if you get gentoo going you will have written one so you can just repeat the process :D
[10:13] <apparle> ActionParsnip: I have the unrar-free as well as the unrar package and i am able to open RAR archives but I am unable to open passworded ones
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> apparle: unrar (rar file here)
[10:14] <Stevethepirate> I need a way to bridge 2 network cards so that anyone on network 1 can talk to anyone on network 2 through the bridge.. one network is DHCP, the other is static.. anyone know any guides or point me in a general direction?
[10:14] <apparle> ActionParsnip: any gui tool
[10:14] <Inferno> whats the command to edit fstab?  "gedit" command not found
[10:15] <Stevethepirate> pico is good
[10:15] <Stevethepirate> or nano
[10:15] <Stevethepirate> or kate
[10:15] <Inferno> kate is what i was looking for... brainfart
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> apparle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20380
[10:15] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: you might need to go unrar -e [rarname]
[10:16] <Stevethepirate> Inferno: no need for such language
[10:16] <utnubuk> you can't say the word fart in here?
[10:17] <Inferno> sorry. i get all worked up and i get a potty mouth
[10:17] <Stevethepirate> utnubuk: its a family channel :P
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> I'd say it was fairly mild
[10:17] <Stevethepirate> Lol.
[10:17] <sub[t]rnl> a family channel yeah, not a shrine
[10:17] <Inferno> im assuiming there was a hint of sarcasm
[10:17] <Stevethepirate> So, WRT to my question?
[10:18] <milestone> hi all
[10:18] <apparle> Ok forget about unrar. I will use zip
[10:18] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: I was brought up to know that one should never change a running system... I have the weird feeling though, that one of the 2 cpus is hardly up to anything --> http://pastebin.ca/810843
[10:18] <utnubuk> is there a program that will allow me to 'mask' my windows, so that if i'm watching a video in firefox i just see the video and not the browser?
[10:18] <milestone> will kde4 make it into gutsy as a backport once it is done?
[10:18] <utnubuk> cuz that would be awesome
[10:18] <ardchoille> milestone: I heard it will, yes
[10:18] <Stevethepirate> milestone: yeah.
[10:19] <milestone> cool
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: yeah no kidding
[10:19] <milestone> sometimes my window contents are not drawn when using compiz-fusion with kde
[10:19] <milestone> is compiz-fusion still somewhat unstable?
[10:20] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: but I really am right in my asumption, that cpu1 is up to naff all...
[10:20] <Stevethepirate> I need a way to bridge 2 network cards so that anyone on network 1 can talk to anyone on network 2 through the bridge.. one network is DHCP, the other is static.. anyone know any guides or point me in a general direction?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: i'd say that was the case
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: i'll see what i can find
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: whats your output from uname -a
[10:23] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: Linux hurricane 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: yeah i just read about smp stuff
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-168561.html
[10:27] <bucket> Hello
[10:28] <bazhang> hi bucket
[10:29] <bucket> Hey Bazhang
[10:29] <Inferno> apparle: thanks a ton man, editing the fstab worked.
[10:31] <Brujah> how can I get my old search function back? strigi is not doing what I want
[10:32] <Inferno> i cant seem to get a list of folders for my Documents and Settings folder. Whats the deal?
[10:33] <Inferno> Issue solved
[10:34] <apparle> Inferno: Solution to all problems can be found on google. I got it for you from google
[10:34] <Inferno> apparle: your google skills are stronger than mine then
[10:35] <ubuntu_> hwo can i find out the "name" of my drive (hda1 sda1, etc)
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> ubotu: fdisk -l
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk -l - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <Inferno> anyone here use Maya on linux?
[10:35] <apparle> Inferno: I searched "ubuntu ntfs permission denied" and got the 2nd link
[10:36] <apparle> ubuntu_: Go to /media and right click on the drive> Properties> see the mount point
[10:37] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip: i ran that and it said sdb2, but in the grub isnt it usually somthing like hda1,1? it has a comma than another number
[10:37] <apparle> Inferno: where are you from
[10:37] <ubuntu_> shouldnt it?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> sdb2 is sata2,2 (i think)
[10:37] <apparle> ubuntu_: what are you trying to do
[10:38] <ubuntu_> when i boot up i get a "error:22" in the grub
[10:38] <Inferno> apparle: FL at the moment
[10:38] <ubuntu_> and the article said it could be because the drive name is wrong
[10:38] <bazhang> ubuntu_: problem with your master boot record
[10:38] <apparle> Inferno: what is FL
[10:39] <Inferno> apparle: a state
[10:39] <apparle> ubuntu_: Did your installation fo on well
[10:39] <ubuntu_> install went fine
[10:39] <apparle> ubuntu_: then why tis error. I s this a dual boot
[10:39] <bazhang> ubuntu_: you need to fix the mbr
[10:39] <ubuntu_> no, its not a dual boot
[10:40] <ubuntu_> i have the "super grub disk" and ive had it reinstall the grub but the same thing happens
[10:40] <poison--> morning
[10:41] <maduser> ardchoille?
[10:41] <ubuntu_> so is sdb2,2 correct? because i know when i go to edit the grub on startup it wasnt "sdb2,2"
[10:41] <maduser> are you there?
[10:41] <kleind> exit
[10:41] <bazhang> super grub disk? is that even supported in ubuntu?
[10:42] <ubuntu_> its a live cd
[10:42] <ubuntu_> ive used it on sevral occasions
[10:42] <apparle> ubuntu_: I am looking in google
[10:43] <bazhang> ubuntu_: I believe the super grub disk is the issue
[10:44] <ubuntu_> how?
[10:44] <ubuntu_> i got the error BEFORE using it
[10:44] <ubuntu_> then i just used it to reinstall the grub and i just get the same error
[10:44] <ubuntu_> so it did nothing
[10:45] <apparle> ubuntu_: how did you reinstall GRUB using SGD
[10:45] <ubuntu_> automatic install
[10:46] <apparle> ubuntu_: did you get the window asking you to reboot after ubuntu installation
[10:47] <ubuntu_> yes
[10:47] <bazhang> error 22 is a problem with grub one not finding grub one point five--thus the error
[10:47] <bazhang> mbr is likely borked
[10:47] <ubuntu_> how would i fix that?
[10:48] <angryPenguin> Dear Windows's MISERABLE EXCUSE for an accessibility API, you are Jesus-wanking fuckwankers.  HRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH. Love, Matthew.
[10:49] <bazhang> !ohmy
[10:49] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[10:49] <Stevethepirate> !WTF
[10:49] <angryPenguin> http://www.rjek.com/vmjg59.cgi
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> clear
[10:50] <ubuntu_> bazhang: how can i fix my mbr
[10:50] <apparle> bazang: If the problem is mbr then reinstalling grub would have dne it. I thing it is the Grub config. files
[10:51] <Stevethepirate> ubotu: you need to edit /boot/grub
[10:51] <Stevethepirate> use a liveCD?
[10:51] <apparle> bazhang: If the problem is mbr then reinstalling grub would have dne it. I thing it is the Grub config. files
[10:51] <ubuntu_> yes
[10:51] <ubuntu_> im on a live cd now
[10:51] <apparle> ubuntu_ do you have 2 hard disks
[10:51] <ubuntu_> i do
[10:52] <apparle> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/55749-grub-error-22-a.html Read the whole link and see if it can help
[10:52] <bazhang> live cd should do it ubuntu
[10:52] <ubuntu_> live cd should do what
[10:53] <bazhang> fix mbr
[10:53] <ubuntu_> how
[10:53] <apparle> bazhang: MBR is not a problem
[10:53] <bazhang> apparle: okay, my bad.
[10:54] <apparle> ubuntu_: Switch the primary disk in the bios setup
[10:54] <ubuntu_> apparle: that link talks abotu using windows cds to do somthing
[10:54] <stdin> !grub
[10:54] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:54] <Stevethepirate> !nat
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <Stevethepirate> !NAT
[10:55] <Stevethepirate> fail.
[10:55] <Stevethepirate> !alg
[10:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <ubuntu_> im not installing after using windows or anything
[10:55] <ubuntu_> i was using an older version of kubuntu
[10:55] <apparle> ubuntu_: First try to swap the Primary hardisk and the BIOS setup. Don't see the link
[10:55] <apparle> ubuntu_: First try to swap the Primary hardisk in the BIOS setup. Don't see the link
[10:55] <ubuntu_> huh?
[10:57] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: the folks @ gentoo told me to 'tar cpjf backup.tbz2 $dirnames'
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?tar
[10:58] <ActionParsnip>  tar -cvvf foo.tar foo/ tar contents of folder foo in foo.tar
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: the j makes it zipped
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: through bzip2
[10:59] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: that would be the idea...
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: sounds like a plan. you could boot to a live cd and do it onthere, see what you get
[11:00] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: I was had already thought doing that off a live fs might not be bright ;-)
[11:01] <apparle> ubuntu_: did it work
[11:01] <bazhang> he left
[11:02] <apparle> bazhang: may be he is tryin it
[11:02] <bazhang> apparle: hope so :}
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: sweet, let us know how you go man
[11:03] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: also during complie?? =)
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: nice, haha
[11:03] <apparle> Can I change the bootscreen
[11:04] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: 30% of the dvd img is already downloaded...
[11:04] <stdin> !usplash | apparle
[11:04] <ubotu> apparle: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: what connection you got?
[11:05] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: 18000down/1481 up
[11:05] <apparle> stdin: Will this command work ofline
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: awesome
[11:05] <stdin> apparle: yes
[11:05] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: the dvd-img is downloading @ 1600kb/s of their bit-torrent ;-)
[11:06] <Stevethepirate> I'm getting 8meg/sec download off a repo :p
[11:06] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: that's why I always use their torrent as a bittorrent reference
[11:06]  * ActionParsnip has cheapass 2mb line at home but killer connection at work
[11:06] <Stevethepirate> I have 100mbit connection to leg.uct.ac.za :p
[11:07]  * ciacon_ must confess that work=home...
[11:08] <neville__> -_-v
[11:08] <apparle> I have a hopeless connection with transfer rate of 10KBps at college and no connection at home. Anybody has more hopeless connection??
[11:08] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: I love the gentoo install manual --> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1
[11:08] <neville__> 33.6k modem
[11:08] <neville__> <---
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> apparle: beats me :D
[11:08]  * ciacon_ started off with a 14.4 modem back in 1996...
[11:09] <neville__> So don't complain, it makes me feel bad
[11:09] <neville__> =]
[11:09] <ciacon_> =)
[11:09] <apparle> neville__: you are better off than me but I am happy with what I have
[11:10] <apparle>  :D
[11:10] <ciacon_> 1h download time for 3,74gb is fair
[11:10] <neville__> =/
[11:10] <neville__> Try a few months, if I'm lucky, for me
[11:10]  * ciacon_ feels like lending neville__ some rx + tx volume =)
[11:11] <apparle> ciacon_ feels like lending neville__ some rx + tx volume. How did you type this msg
[11:11] <apparle> ciacon_: I don't have connection at all . lend me some
[11:11] <ciacon_> apparle: /me
[11:11] <ubuntu_> i looked back in my grub,, and its set to boot to "hd1,1"
[11:12] <neville__> I have a 266MHz pentium 2 down the back room, that shares my connection, if you'd like to use it =]
[11:12] <ubuntu_> so i tried chaging it to sdb2,2 and i got "error 23: error while parsing number"
[11:12] <apparle> ubuntu_: did you swap the master harddisk
[11:12] <ubuntu_> i dont know what you mean by that
[11:13] <ciacon_> neville__: my gateway/server = 266 mhz p2, 384 mb ram... and a Riva TNT 2 xDD
[11:13] <ubuntu_> swap it with the slave?
[11:13]  * apparle was irritated by GRUB error 15 a moth ago
[11:13] <neville__> Oh
[11:13] <neville__> terrible mismatch
[11:13] <apparle> ubuntu_: yes
[11:13] <ubuntu_> theres nothing on my slave drive
[11:13] <neville__> Mine is 96Mb ram and Geforce 2 Pro Dx
[11:13] <ubuntu_> its free space
[11:13]  * ciacon_ is happy to see that apparle found the "/me" button on his keyboard ;-)
[11:13] <ardchoille> ciacon_: lol
[11:14] <ciacon_> =)
[11:14] <ubuntu_> what would swapping my drives do'
[11:14] <ubuntu_> ?
[11:14]  * apparle has atlast found the three buttons "/" "m" & "e"
[11:15] <ciacon_> hey... I'm in a brillo mood  --  got my music turned up to max, some tea and a fag... what more could one want for a day full of linux-compiling
[11:15] <ciacon_> xD
[11:15] <neville__> Erm
[11:15] <neville__> For there to be no errors in the compiling? =P
[11:15] <apparle> ubuntu_: I was irritated by grub error 15 and reinstall fixed it. Try a reinstall
[11:15] <ubuntu_> already did that
[11:15] <ciacon_> neville__: I want to go through this baby --> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1
[11:16] <neville__> Oh
[11:16] <neville__> Only a day full?
[11:16] <ciacon_> neville__: I love this versionless feeling...
[11:17] <neville__> Oh yeah, I was contemplating LFS at one stage
[11:17] <neville__> But until I get faster internet (when hell freezes over) I'm stuffed =]
[11:17] <ciacon_> neville__: I hope so... my old box (p4, 1,8 ghz, 768 ram) needed 28 hours to compile the sys + kde
[11:18] <ciacon_> neville__: I'm dieing to see what a Core2DuoEE @ 2,93 ghz, 2gb ram can do ;-)
[11:18] <neville__> Lol, we should have a race
[11:18] <neville__> And see if my
[11:18] <neville__> 450MHz Pentium 3 can do it in a reasonable amount of time
[11:18] <neville__> =]
[11:19] <Stevethepirate> Anyone here ever ran a dedicated counter strike server off linux?
[11:19] <ubuntu_> can i not do "fdisk -l" and get it to list while im on a live cd?
[11:20] <ciacon_> neville__: I just saw they have a more suitable cd for you => install-x86-minimal-2007.0-r1  	57.2MiB
[11:20] <Stevethepirate> ubuntu_: no. depends on if you've mounted or if the liveCD sees your HDD's
[11:20] <ubuntu_> i mounted it
[11:20] <ubuntu_> i can browse it
[11:21] <ubuntu_> but it lists nothing when i give it that command
[11:21] <neville__> If anything, a DVD version with a whole bunch of included software for the making would be suitable
[11:21] <ubuntu_> oh
[11:21] <ubuntu_> forgot the sudo
[11:21] <ubuntu_> got it now
[11:21] <neville__> Due to convenience, and not putting stress on the bandwidth
[11:22] <ciacon_> neville__: the livedvd = 3,7 gb.... 75% complete ;-)
[11:22] <ubuntu_> this is my main partition on my main drive "/dev/sdb2               1       19366   155557363+  83  Linux" but when i boot up it lists (hd1,1) in grub when i try to boot up
[11:23] <ciacon_> neville__: you could got for the normal live-cd.... that normally does the trick
[11:23] <apparle> ubuntu_:did you see this link
[11:23] <apparle> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:23] <ubuntu_> yes
[11:23] <ubuntu_> im not using ubuntu after installing windows
[11:23] <neville__> Heh, it's okay, my friend owes me a favour
[11:23] <neville__> So I'm sure they'd be happy to oblige, and get me 3.7Gb download =]
[11:24] <apparle> ubuntu_: still try the Quick start
[11:24] <apparle> bye everyone
[11:24] <ciacon_> neville__: I have loads of freinds just like you ;-)
[11:25] <neville__> Hahaha, we're a great bunch, aren't we? =P
[11:25] <ciacon_> I know
[11:25] <ciacon_> but I get the best media off you guys
[11:26] <neville__> Lol
[11:26] <ciacon_> my last catch was 8gb psy&goa trade for a dvd-image off bittorrent
[11:27] <neville__> Lol, see?  Anyone have ideas?
[11:29] <neville__> Videolan does the job fine for me, even though the list takes about an hour to load
[11:29] <neville__> As for this "Infected Mushroom", it doesn't mix with my tastes =]
[11:30] <ciacon_> neville__: I have really found my hots on "mocp"... I love to listen to mp3s while playing full-screen... the unhandy thing is, that most of the mp3 players can't be changed (next track etc...) during fullscreen ==> mocp is brillo there
[11:30] <bazhang> is super grub disk even compatible with ubuntu?
[11:31] <neville__> Where abouts can mocp be acquired?
[11:32] <ciacon_> neville__: apt-get
[11:32] <neville__> Or, did you mean moc?
[11:33] <ciacon_> neville__: yup...
[11:33] <TimS> Where can i get the Americas Army linux installer?
[11:33] <neville__> Lol >.>;
[11:33] <ciacon_> neville__: it's mocp to open it off the command line...
[11:33] <bazhang> http://www.americasarmy.com/
[11:34] <neville__> Hahaha, that's a problem I have too -_-v
[11:34] <ciacon_> neville__: I finished thoose 3,7 gig in 46 minutes...
[11:34] <neville__> =/
[11:34] <neville__> My friend has yet to start =]
[11:35] <ciacon_> neville__: hmm
[11:35] <ciacon_> neville__: do you live out on the sticks??
[11:36] <neville__> I live in Australia, in a lame dingey part of Western Sydney
[11:36] <Stevethepirate> lol.
[11:38] <ciacon_> neville__: sounds like culture.. I live in snowy munich
[11:38] <neville__> I bet it'd be much nicer there than here
[11:38] <neville__> Everything is overpriced
[11:39] <neville__> By the way, mocp is actually very nice
[11:40] <ciacon_> neville__: there is another which is nicer, but I could not quite get it configured to work with alsa.... --> mp3blaster
[11:41] <ciacon_> neville__: http://mp3blaster.sourceforge.net/#screenshots
[11:42] <TimS> bazhang: I couldnt find the linux download, only widnwos?
[11:44] <TimS> brb
[11:44] <TimS> back, x needed restart.
[11:45] <TimS> I cant find americas army linux download, only windows
[11:46] <Batrace> hi there
[11:47] <TimS> What dependancies do nVidia drivers have?
[11:48] <posingaspopular> hi Batrace
[11:50] <bazhang> http://americasarmy.filefront.com/file/AASF_Direct_Action_v25_Linux_Full_Install;49654 TimS
[11:50] <TimS> Sweet, thanks.
[11:50] <bazhang> no problem
[11:50] <bazhang> hi Batrace
[11:51] <Gular1> I've got a few questions about setting up an encrypted install manually  - anyone got ideas/knowledge?
[11:51] <Batrace> guys I'm trying to help my friend installing Kubuntu
[11:51] <Stevethepirate> well, put him online then.
[11:51] <Stevethepirate> :P
[11:51] <bazhang> haha
[11:51] <HyperNewbie> hello everyone
[11:51] <Inferno> Im still having a problem with MAYA 2008 Not opening up. Anyone got any Ideas? cant find anything on g00gle
[11:51] <posingaspopular> Batrace: ask away. i'll answer if I know.
[11:52] <posingaspopular> Inferno: MAYA is available on linux?!?
[11:52] <bazhang> Gular1: encrytpted--full disk encryption?
[11:52] <Gular1> bazhang: sure
[11:52] <Inferno> posingaspopular: Yes maya is availible on all platforms in 32 and 64 bit versions
[11:52] <HyperNewbie> does anyone know how to play wav files with minimum hassle apt-get wise?
[11:52] <HyperNewbie> (play wav files from console)
[11:53] <posingaspopular> hmmm really. wow. i need to tell my best friend that because he uses windows specifically for MAYA
[11:53] <bazhang> http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=11201 Gular1
[11:54] <Gular1> bazhang: the jist is that I'd like to set up a computer that's already got windows on the primary partition, with kubuntu encrypted at the end of the drive... I the installer there's an option to "set up encrypted lvm and use the whoule disk" but I haven't found any info on how one would do it "manually" (thru the partition manager)
[11:54] <Inferno> posingaspopular: I switched to linux because of vista being a resource wh0r3. I want maya to run faster.
[11:54] <bazhang> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-truecrypt-on-ubuntu-edgy/ Gular1
[11:55] <bazhang> Gular1: not sure there--those are the two I know of--sorry :}
[11:55] <Gular1> np
[11:55] <Gular1> thanks anyway
[11:56] <Gular1> guess I'll just give it a go, just making a small boot partition, then adding a lvm that's encrypted and putting / and swap on there, that might work?
[11:56] <TimS> In Konqueror there was a view that allowed you to see what was taiking um how much room grapgicaly, can i get thing on d3phin?
[11:57] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103835 hypernewbie
[11:57] <bazhang> oops
[11:57] <bazhang> Gular1: back up first :}
[11:58] <Gular1> hehe
[11:58] <Gular1> TimS: sudo apt-get install filelight;filelight
[11:58] <Gular1> ;)
[11:59] <TimS> yeah, Im using that at the moment, its quite nice :P
[11:59] <Gular1> and afaik both that and the spuare-size thingie that I don't remember the name of, integrate in konqueror and dolpihn
[12:00] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567111 Inferno
[12:00] <TimS> Hmm, I couldnt find it in D3phin, I got it in Konqueror
[12:02] <stuffcorpse> hi, is there a way to "undo closed tab" in konqueror?
[12:02] <bazhang> if there is I'd like to know
[12:03] <Gular1> stuffcorpse: in firefox you go ctrl+shift+t  - dunno if that'll work in konq and I'm on a windows box now :/
[12:04] <stuffcorpse> Gular1:ahh yes i can do it in firefox. it turns out in konq that shortcut does a horizontal split
[12:07] <Inferno> bazhang: I saw that but he is talking about maya crashing... mine wont open in the first place
[12:08] <Gular1> Inferno: If you've bought Maya, then your entitled to supplier support for your platfom, no?
[12:09] <Inferno> Gular1: Hypothetically that would be true
[12:10] <Inferno> Gular1: It doesn't exactly apply to my situation
[12:10] <Gular1> do you recieve error messages then?
[12:10] <Inferno> Gular1: No i just get nothing
[12:11] <bazhang> older version of motif doesn't do it? Inferno
[12:12] <Inferno> bazhang: honestly ive never used motif im a little skeptical about it too because idont see anything about maya1k8
[12:13] <bazhang> Inferno: just a shot--sorry that didn't help
[12:14] <Inferno> bazhang: thanks anyway man. that program looks like its for running windows programs on linux, I have a linux version on the program.
[12:14] <bazhang> oh ok
[12:15] <Gular1> Inferno: tried running from a terminal? there should be at least some sort of output?
[12:15] <Gular1> try -h or --help behind, see if there are verbosity switches
[12:15] <Gular1> if there are: turn them on
[12:28] <bentob0x> what's the story with two soundcards and setup one as default for the os?
[12:28] <bentob0x> using alsa
[12:28] <bentob0x> I seem to always loose my settings for some reason
[12:28] <bentob0x> and then I can't redirect the sound from an app to a given sound card
[12:29] <ciacon> neville__: hi there
[12:29] <Inferno> Gular1: dude thats weird. I tried to run it out of console and it wouldnt find the program.... yet i installed the liscence which is the last step of the process of isntalling. Seems like the install didnt finish
[12:33] <Gular1> try to run a "sudo updatedb" and then "locate maya-executable" ?
[12:33] <Gular1> might be just a path that's missing
[12:33] <dani> hi
[12:33] <dani> waht is this????????

[12:35] <bentob0x> why is it so hard to get simple things going right sound wise
[12:35] <bentob0x> it's very frustrating
[12:35] <MasterDark88> Hallo
[12:35] <MasterDark88> Hi
[12:35] <ciacon> MasterDark88: hi
[12:36] <MasterDark88> (-:
[12:36] <neville__> Hi
[12:37] <neville__> I got the sound to work in mp3blaster
[12:37] <neville__> using aoss
[12:38] <Inferno> Gular1: The files all showed up... i dont know whats wrong
[12:40] <Inferno> i might just switch back over to vista until i can fix this so i can get a little work done
[12:40] <Gular1> Inferno: tried cd'ing into the directory and executing the program from there?
[12:42] <Inferno> Gular1: to run a program you just type its name right?
[12:43] <andrewlin> Can anyone help me figure out why NONE of my sound in linux is working?
[12:44] <Gular1> Inferno: in general, you do, but only if the program is located in one of your systems path. if it's in some other, non-standard dir, linux won't "find" the executable
[12:44] <Gular1> but you could always just launch it with the full path
[12:45] <Gular1> ie: for ktorrent it would be: /usr/bin/ktorrent
[12:45] <Inferno> Gular1: so then how do i excecute from a non standard dir after i have cd'ed into it
[12:45] <Gular1> ./programname
[12:46] <Gular1> did that work?
[12:46] <Inferno> alright this is ridiculous
[12:46] <Inferno> the file is clearly in my window but konsole says its not there
[12:48] <Gular1> Inferno: ls -la , then paste the line with your executable
[12:49] <Chousuke> Inferno: are you sure you're typing the filename in correct case?
[12:49] <Chousuke> Inferno: it's case sensitive
[12:49] <Inferno> still gives "No such file or Directory
[12:49] <Inferno> yes, all lowercase.   "maya.bin"