[00:00] <prince_jammys> zvacet: he left.
[00:00] <prince_jammys> there is no lxde package in hardy. He needs to go to their website.
[00:00] <zvacet> prince_jammys : didn´t saw
[00:00] <kandjar> Eevee:  i ll give it a try
[00:00] <kandjar> :)
[00:00] <sebsebseb> naxa: Ok sounds like you have 512MB RAM
[00:00] <MikeH> hrm, Why doesn't grub `savedefault --default=X --once` work under ubuntu?
[00:01] <p-tje> any gtk developers here ?
[00:01] <bazhang> there is not lxde in hardy zebastian
[00:01] <infogulch> how can i cancel a file move/copy in emelFM2?
[00:01] <saru> i am using Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty... i was wondering if there is a Kernel update that i need to get upon fresh install?
[00:01] <sebsebseb> bazhang: he left, but is back now
[00:01] <zebastian> ok her'es the problem
[00:01] <bazhang> zebastian, there is no lxde for hardy
[00:01] <afallenhope> so my java no longer works
[00:01] <prince_jammys> zebastian: there is no lxde package in hardy. Go to their website.
[00:01] <zebastian> um
[00:02] <zebastian> yes...i downloaded lxde again
[00:02] <bazhang> zebastian, from where
[00:02] <MenZa> saru: Most likely.
[00:02] <saru> how do i go about doing that
[00:02] <MasterOfRock> sebsebseb: Hello Sebdude. Alterwebz likes what we seez. Carry on
[00:02] <MenZa> saru: As in, not necessarily need it, but there should be one available.
[00:02] <saru> and how do i find out my current version
[00:02] <zebastian> anyway, the problem was this, when i originally got it, actionparsnip or dr_willis help me set up a script so that compiz would be default on login
[00:02] <naxa> sebsebseb, it seems
[00:02] <MenZa> saru: Launch the update manager, press "Install Updates"... you're done.
[00:02] <zebastian> i wanted to get rid of that
[00:02] <zebastian> so i uninstalled lxde
[00:02] <sebsebseb> MasterOfRock: What?
[00:02] <kandjar> also I have a rtorrent question: I'm getting: "Inactive: Hash check on download completion found bad chunks, consider using "safe_sync"."; what's should I do to resume and ask rtorrent to try again?
[00:02] <zebastian> and reinstalled it
[00:02] <kandjar> or what should I do to fix the issue?
[00:02] <bazhang> zebastian, where did you install lxde from
[00:03] <zebastian> but somehow the settings seem to hav ebeen kept the same
[00:03] <saru> well im wondering if I am running 2.6.30?
[00:03] <zebastian> from the console
[00:03] <zebastian> terminal
[00:03] <sebsebseb> naxa: I have a feeling that 8.04 will be better on your older hardware
[00:03] <zebastian> sudo aptitude install lxde
[00:03] <bazhang> zebastian, then you are NOT using hardy
[00:03] <MenZa> saru: Try uname -a in a terminal. That will let you know what kernel you're running.
[00:03] <sebsebseb> naxa: and 9.10 might be pretty good on it when it's released
[00:03] <zebastian> bazhang: i am usinghardy
[00:03] <saru> says im running 2.6.28-15-generic
[00:03] <bazhang> zebastian, there is no package lxde for Hardy.
[00:03] <zebastian> then how did i get lxde?
[00:03] <sebsebseb> zebastian: from the website
[00:03] <afallenhope> so how can I get java to work :-|
[00:04] <zebastian> maybe i enabled some repo or something
[00:04] <bazhang> zebastian, qed you are not running hardy
[00:04] <MasterOfRock> sebsebseb: just got a headkick and returned it with ehm... be nice, gotta kill this fucker
[00:04] <zebastian> i AM USING HARDY
[00:04] <prince_jammys> zebastian: you probably added their repository.
[00:04] <zebastian> yes
[00:04] <zebastian> i did that
[00:04] <Biovore> !java | afallenhope
[00:04] <zebastian> now that i remember
[00:04] <FloodBot2> zebastian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:04] <MenZa> saru: It shouldn't be necessary to update your kernel in most cases.
[00:04] <bazhang> zebastian, pastebin your sources.list please
[00:04] <prince_jammys> zebastian: well, that's why you can apt-get install it, then.
[00:04] <sebsebseb> MasterOfRock: Why are you talking to me?
[00:04] <naxa> sebsebseb, i know it's not much today, but i am sad. when we bought our first computer back in 1996, the memory upgrade was an upgrade to 32 mb. the next upgrade was in 2002 what i used until 2005, a 400 mhz cpu with 192 mb ram. it seemed so much. and today, even 512 is not enough, but too small :( i hope 9.10 will be even better. of course i could buy a new hardware, but one thing what i am hoping from ubuntu that it works on slower ma
[00:04] <naxa> chines, too :)
[00:04] <sebsebseb> !language |  MasterOfRock
[00:04] <zebastian> now if i want to get rid of it, but in such a manner that when i reinstall it the settings for it will be gone so i can start from scratch, what do i have to do?
[00:04] <afallenhope> BiosElement, no. I have the plugin.. just not sure where to put the plugin at
[00:04] <saru> MenZa, ok, well im reading stuff on intel video drivers and how to make it work better via Xorg etc.
[00:04] <prince_jammys> bazhang: he just added their repo, as indicated in their website.
[00:05] <MenZa> saru: You're on Jaunty, yes?
[00:05] <saru> they were saying one option is to update your kernel to 2.6.30
[00:05] <naxa> sebsebseb: of course it would work if I would choose the appropriate software versions ;)
[00:05] <saru> yes i am
[00:05] <MikeH> Any suggestions why --once doesn't work under grub?
[00:05] <bazhang> prince_jammys, I am not sure, would like to see his sources.list
[00:05] <MenZa> saru: The intel driver stick is still a bit funny on Jaunty. It is fixed in Karmic, which should be out soon.
[00:05] <infogulch> i'm trying to use partimg to reload a saved partition state, but it's saying "invalid compression level for [partimg file]"
[00:05] <saru> when does Karmic come out?
[00:05] <sebsebseb> naxa: ok this is what I suggest
[00:05] <infogulch> what can i do about this?
[00:05] <sebsebseb> naxa: you say 9.04 doesn't exactly work properly right?
[00:05] <bazhang> saru, next month
[00:06] <saru> hmm maybe i should wait and reinstall...
[00:06] <zebastian> the deal is this: i don't want it to use compiz, thing is dr_willis or action parsnip had helped me write a script so compiz would be default, now if i switched or turned compiz off it would be a big mess things wouldn't work, so i've decided, uninstall it, install it and start from scratch, i did that the problem is, for some reason the settings are the same as those beforee the uninstall install
[00:06] <zebastian> what do i have to do?
[00:06] <zebastian> purge?
[00:06] <saru> is their a site i can read the reviews on what updates they have done to the intel section?
[00:06] <sebsebseb> naxa: download the 8.10 and 8.04.3  ISO's burn them to CD,  and  install one for now,  then when 9.10 is out, you can try that from Live CD as well before deciding to  install it
[00:06] <prince_jammys> zebastian: where did you put the script?
[00:06] <bazhang> cat /etc/apt/sources.list ------> paste.ubuntu.com zebastian
[00:06] <MenZa> saru: You *can* upgrade to Karmic, but it's generally not recommended on a production system. I have an Intel card, and I certainly don't get amazing video performance from Jaunty, but I'll live with it until Karmic is out.
[00:06] <zebastian> prince_jammys: i don't remember
[00:07] <sebsebseb> naxa: or not
[00:07] <jbuncher> I'm running Karmic right now, and the intel stuff is much improved.
[00:07] <zebastian> bazhang: i added their repo from th e website, i remember now, case closed
[00:07] <saru> MenZa, im just trying to get it working properly with WineHQ
[00:07] <jbuncher> That being said, I had good luck with the UXA fix for the intel chips in Jaunty.
[00:07] <MenZa> saru: What, you're trying to play games on your machine?
[00:07] <bazhang> zebastian, good luck
[00:07] <saru> World of Warcraft
[00:07] <saru> yes
[00:07] <naxa> sebsebseb, thanks for the advice, but it's more curiosity here than, well, actual problem solving. i have every ubuntu from 7.04, but i think i have some 6.x, too. i just find it stimulating to test many OS and I wanted to try and set my ubuntu the way i want it
[00:07] <MenZa> saru: What graphics card do you have?
[00:08] <sebsebseb> naxa: well 9.04 isn't the release for Intel graphic cards
[00:08] <zebastian> prince_jammys: is there a way for me to find the log through google? to see where the lxde was put in
[00:08] <naxa> sebsebseb, i mean I use this hard drive with ubuntu on several computers, the other one has geforce 8xxx
[00:08] <zebastian> lxde script*
[00:08] <prince_jammys> zebastian: when did you have that irc conversation? you can probably find it in the logs, or search your system.
[00:08] <naxa> sebsebseb, ok :)
[00:08] <zebastian> about a week and a half ago
[00:08] <jbuncher> Jaunty 9.04 is also not the release for anyone that wants to use Kile for Latex.
[00:08] <bazhang> !1984 > zebastian
[00:08] <zebastian> two weeks tops rince
[00:09] <zebastian> haha 1984 thatt's a good one
[00:09] <saru> MenZa, Intel Corportation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[00:09] <MenZa> saru: I wouldn't expect very good performance with WoW on that card, even on Windows.
[00:09] <zebastian> ok how do i google into all of the conversations of the past month?
[00:09] <saru> it works under windows...
[00:10] <zebastian> is there like an internal google-like search tool?
[00:10] <MenZa> saru: Your best bet would be to use Karmic, if you really insist on getting it to work, but I wouldn't recommend using it unless you're absolutely sure what you're doing.
[00:10] <saru> not the best, but it plays the game under windows.
[00:10] <saru> can i download Karmic off ubuntu.com?
[00:10] <naxa> sebsebseb, anyway, since it's an usb drive, i'm booting like this: in bios, i press "select boot device" key, and i select usb. grub comes, and then i select my normal ubuntu. however, i always have to wait 30-240 seconds for my ubuntu to (i dunno what? realize that it's on an usb hard drive?) can you help me find out why is this this slow? the kernel is not even loading, really, for 2 minutes. after 2 minutes, kernel starts loading, th
[00:10] <naxa> en ext3 is up and then init starts, then gdm.
[00:10] <sebsebseb> bazhang: well using !1984  instead of !logs seems a bit silly to me, but whatever makes things a little more fun/funny in here I guess
[00:11] <zvacet> saru :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions
[00:11] <jbuncher> saru:  just google karmic alpha 6, you get the download site
[00:11] <MenZa> !karmic | saru
[00:11] <zebastian> will plain google work if i type lxde zebastian irc ubuntu?
[00:12] <MasterOfRock> Volule vue, aha... aha.. aha .. aha
[00:12] <bazhang> zebastian, no, you need to search the logs as the link I gave you indicates
[00:12] <mattgirv> naxa: You may want to check whether the USB 2.0 driver is loaded, otherwise it is going to be very slow
[00:12] <sebsebseb> naxa: oh right I see slow boot up,  well  that's the case for Ubuntu on Ext3,  Ext4 improves that by a lot :)
[00:12] <prince_jammys> zebastian: looks like you put in /usr/bin/startcompiz ... which is why you should put locally created stuff in /usr/local/bin.
[00:13] <sebsebseb> naxa: Ext4 isn't exactly perfect though in 9.04 though, because of the kernel they have for it and that, hence why it's optional rather than default,  9.10 has it by default :)
[00:13] <zebastian> prince_jammys: GREAT! how do i solve it
[00:13] <Iceman_B> how can I add a non-superuser account to (gui)Ubuntu from the commandline?
[00:13] <prince_jammys> zebastian: verify  that that is the file, and if it is, remove it.
[00:14] <sebsebseb> naxa: not for upgrades though
[00:14] <prince_jammys> zebastian: and don't put stuff you create yourself in /usr/bin. I should have said something, because I was there when they told you.
[00:14] <Evelina> How do I get all html code of a web page to be stored as a single line. I want a space instead of line breaks. How do I get all text in a line?
[00:14] <MenZa> Iceman_B: sudo adduser <username>, then sudo passwd <username>, enter a password for the user, done.
[00:15] <sebsebseb> !troll |  MasterOfRock
[00:15] <Iceman_B> MenZa: thanks
[00:15] <zebastian> prince_jammys: i tried opeinign that file you told me and nothing happened, other than a blackout for a moment
[00:15] <MenZa> Iceman_B: I *may* be wrong, and it *may* be useradd. One of them adds a user with a home directory and everything, the other only adds the user account
[00:15] <Iceman_B> MenZa: can I also specify a password of <null>  ?
[00:15] <c0rrupt0r> I have ubuntu karmic koala and every time i go to restart my computer It prompts me with the password window saying: System Policy prevents stopping the system when other users are logged in, An Application is attempting to perform an action that requires privilages. Authentication is required to perform this action...well the whole problem is That I only have one user name setup on this computer other then Root and Root is not lo
[00:15] <c0rrupt0r> gged in. so im guessing this maybe a bug?
[00:16] <MenZa> Iceman_B: Don't use the passwd command then. :)
[00:16] <prince_jammys> zebastian: cat /usr/bin/startcompiz
[00:16] <Evelina> Crawl seem to be a game, not a site crawler? Or am I wrong? I searched using aptitude.
[00:16] <Iceman_B> I need one with a homedir and the whole shebang
[00:16] <purpzey> I keep getting this error "An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for evolution-alarm-notify. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly." Does anyone know how to make that stop?
[00:16] <enrikole> hei
[00:16] <MenZa> !info crawl | Evelina
[00:16] <enrikole> hows it going?
[00:16] <sebsebseb> !karmic |  c0rrupt0r
[00:16] <enrikole> anyone want lockerz invites ?
[00:16] <Dorne> does anyone know how to record both desktop and microphone audio for recordmydesktop using pulseaudio only?
[00:16] <MenZa> enrikole: Not here, please.
[00:17] <zebastian> prince jammys i got the following out put: sebastian@hardy:~$ cat /usr/bin/startcompiz    #!/bin/bash  compiz --replace &sebastian@hardy:~$
[00:17] <enrikole> you are on pc i assume?
[00:17] <MenZa> !offtopic | enrikole
[00:17] <kandjar> does anyone know how to fix the error: Inactive: Hash check on download completion found bad chunks... ???
[00:17] <prince_jammys> zebastian: yep, that's the script you wrote. If you want it gone, delete it.
[00:17] <zebastian> how?
[00:17] <kandjar> using rtorrent
[00:17] <zebastian> prince_jammys: how? i dont't want to screw anything up
[00:17] <nastjuid> Do I need to specifically allow an AD user to be able to read the contents of the tree for nss_ldap to be able to pull the info? still getting Invalid Credentials in auth.log
[00:18] <naxa> sebsebseb, can you show me why ext3 makes it slow to boot from usb? i read that when it comes to checking the disk (like "x was mounted 33 times without checking, check forced...") ext4 is faster becouse it keeps a log of what happened to the file system recently. but i don't understand in the first hand, why the grub->to->kernel thing is slow only when the disk is on usb. the kernel and the whole os is fast, only i have to wait for 2 m
[00:18] <naxa> inutes after grub for kernel to even show up (with [000000.032] like timestamp, so it's actually only starts then)
[00:18] <prince_jammys> zebastian: sudo rm /usr/bin/startcompiz . And then we find where they told you to invoke it at startup.
[00:18] <Evelina> MenZa: Yes, but someone said it was a web crawler.
[00:18] <prince_jammys> zebastian: You're not screwing anything up. You wrote a script and are now deleting it.
[00:18] <naxa> sebsebseb, i'm just curious. all my questions are just the childs of curiousity. on the other hand, i might want to fix them :)
[00:18] <zebastian> prince_jammys: this will not affect the gnome config though right? i mean i do want compiz on startup on gnome, matter of fact i need it to use the avant dock
[00:18] <sebsebseb> naxa: I haven't booted Ubuntu from USB,   when I said Ext4 is faster I meant in general,  I meant a proper hard disk install, but yes I assume for the USB it will also be faster
[00:18] <MenZa> eviljussi01: Apparently it isn't. :)
[00:18] <prince_jammys> zebastian: well, that's another story then.
[00:19] <sebsebseb> naxa: also it's not quite perfect in 9.04 as I already said basicalely
[00:19] <zebastian> zebastian: It won't affect compiz or any of the gnome config right? the script was for lxde only i understood
[00:19] <prince_jammys> zebastian: hold on.
[00:19] <sebsebseb> naxa: Why from a USB anyway?
[00:20] <naxa> sebsebseb, i see. I'll definietly try ext4 it when i will have more hard drive space. (maybe i should delete an unused windows xp for another 5 gb:D). but i am very curious what makes this this slow...
[00:20] <zebastian> prince_jammys: they're unrelated too rright? i mean i simply go to desktop properties and enable desktop effects and that stays
[00:20] <prince_jammys> zebastian: it's simply a one-liner that starts compiz.
[00:20] <sebsebseb> naxa: 9.10 is when most Ubuntu users should go Ext4 :)
[00:20] <prince_jammys> zebastian: Regardless, you should move that thing to /usr/local/bin
[00:20] <zebastian>  sudo rm /usr/bin/startcompiz then right?
[00:21] <popey> Dorne: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/23829577/recordSoundAndDesktop.sh
[00:21] <dragon> is perforce (p4, p4v) known to work with ubuntu?
[00:21] <prince_jammys> zebastian: Does that script get invoked by gnome or not?
[00:21] <Dorne> thanks for the link, looking at it now
[00:21] <zebastian> done, now i restart brb
[00:21] <prince_jammys> bah
[00:22] <sebsebseb> naxa: just use whatever untill  9.10 I guess, and then put it on :)  and by default it has Ext4
[00:23] <naxa> sebsebseb, well, I have an pc with the "housing" (dont know the name in english) of it is very small, half of normal in width. i suppose it should be landscape rather than portrait, but i like it like this. (its a dell) originally only one hdd was inside it, and i don't want to manipulate it since i've got this computer from my girlfriend's father and he has stuff on the hdd (like he has the license for a winxp on it, etc). it's 20 gb.
[00:23] <naxa> I added another drive with 40 gb to my computer, but to do this, i had to remove the fdd drive becouse there were no space in the "housing". but I have so much data i store it on that 40 gb. i also happen to have a 160 gb laptop usb drive and i ubuntu is on this. it's also serving me as a "mobile" OS since i can use it like this anywhere, at friends, at school, i love it on usb actually
[00:23] <dev-bin> is there a smaller version of ubuntu? (not the 700mb one)
[00:23] <naxa> that was my answer to "why on usb"
[00:23] <BlackFate> dev-bin, there is the minimal version
[00:23] <dragon> !perforce
[00:23] <dragon> !p4
[00:23] <zebastian> prince_jammys: just logged into gnome and everything's smooth,
[00:24] <dragon> !ubottu
[00:24] <prince_jammys> zebastian: It appears you also added a file /usr/share/applications/startcompiz.desktop , which presumably you'll also want to remove.
[00:24] <zebastian> the avant dock works
[00:24] <BlackFate> dev-bin, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[00:24] <bobo> how do i get openGL 2.0 with an intel graphics card?
[00:24] <sebsebseb> naxa: ok
[00:24] <zebastian> prince_jammys: will that affect gnome?
[00:24] <dev-bin> I dont expect you would know this, but i sthere any possibility it would pick up my on-board card reader?
[00:24] <sebsebseb> !intel | bobo
[00:24] <prince_jammys> zebastian: Doubtful. Back it up somewhere, and see.
[00:24] <naxa> sebsebseb, well, i understand that i am a bit far from a normal pc user actually :)
[00:25] <BlackFate> dev-bin, pc model?
[00:25] <prince_jammys> zebastian: you added it yourself, so I don't see why it would break gnome.
[00:25] <kandjar> when is 9.10 going to be out?
[00:25] <zebastian> how do i back it up prince_jammys? from the conlsole
[00:25] <dev-bin> dell, notebook (inspiron 1520)
[00:25] <sebsebseb> kandjar: October 29th
[00:25] <dev-bin> I think the device is Ricoh
[00:25] <qw30> GUESS WHAT UBUNTU DEVELOPERS
[00:25] <prince_jammys> zebastian: use the GUI, or man cp.
[00:25] <qw30> YOU SUCK ASS!
[00:25] <carresmd_> someone type please /nick carresmd and tell me if able to take my nick with no error
[00:25] <MenZa> !ops | qw30
[00:25] <sebsebseb> !ops | qw30
[00:26] <jpds> I win.
[00:26] <MenZa> :p
[00:26] <maek> 271134
[00:26] <dev-bin> please try to be more constructive with your criticism qw30
[00:26] <BlackFate> dev-bin, i know about my acer netbook.. with 9.04 there is support but only if you have the sd card loaded on boot.. if you intsert it while you are on desktop nothing happens... you have to reboot
[00:26] <jpds> dev-bin: Oh, it's too late for that.
[00:26] <BlackFate> dev-bin, but i cant know for inspiron
[00:26] <sebsebseb> dev-bin: they got kicked
[00:26] <bobo> sebsebseb, ok that doesnt really answer my question
[00:26] <sebsebseb> dev-bin: kicked/banned
[00:26] <dev-bin> thats fine, I'll give it a whirl.  thanks! :)
[00:27] <sebsebseb> bobo: Ok which release of Ubuntu?
[00:27] <bobo> 9.04
[00:27] <sebsebseb> dev-bin: banned as far as I know
[00:27] <sebsebseb> bobo: ok which is the one with Intel issues
[00:27] <ubox> does anyone know if the iogear ion usb drives work well with ubuntu?
[00:27] <sebsebseb> bobo: How is your Intel graphics card on 9.04 at the moment?
[00:28] <naxa> bye!
[00:28] <bobo> jaunty
[00:28] <zebastian> prince_jammys: sorry about that i just closed to check if what we did before worked, it did, lxde is working withoutt compositing, i did get a popup informing me about this which maybe has to do with that other file you told me to delete, by the way which was it again? and how can i get sudo privileges to delete something from the gui? sudo nautilus?
[00:28] <sebsebseb> bobo: Is there a driver  for OpenGL  available in  system > administration >  hardware drivers  ?  I guess not since it's Intel and it's meant to have built in support
[00:28] <bobo> it works fine, but i just dont think it has openGL 2.0, does it?
[00:28] <sebsebseb> naxa: ok bye
[00:28] <bobo> which doesnt allow me to play SOME games
[00:28] <bobo> oh um hold on
[00:29] <sebsebseb> !opengl | bobo
[00:29] <prince_jammys> zebastian: describe the problem again. What file is the problem?
[00:29] <quickstartub> Is there a legal way to listen to mp3 in ubuntu
[00:29] <quickstartub> ?
[00:29] <sebsebseb> bobo: well maybe you  need to wait untill 9.10 for  OpenGL  on that card, or   put 8.10 or 8.04 on
[00:29] <bobo> nope, nothing in hardware drivers
[00:29] <qw30_> OK
[00:29] <luist> hey... how can i make a video DVD with subtitles if i have an .avi and an subtitle file separated??? im using k3b
[00:29] <DonBrazini1> quickstartub,YES.
[00:29] <qw30_> SO
[00:29] <prince_jammys> zebastian: the file you deleted was a one-line bash script, easily re-producable.
[00:29] <qw30_> HIBERNATION IS EPIC FAIL
[00:29] <quickstartub> how?????
[00:29] <sebsebseb> !caps |  qw30_
[00:29] <darkham> tanscode help
[00:29] <darkham> transcode help
[00:30] <bobo> so is 9.10 (or 8.10) the only way to get openGL 2.0
[00:30] <DonBrazini1> quickstartub,gefine legal,first.
[00:30] <ChogyDan> quickstartub: bye an mp3 player that has paid the license fee, pay the license fee yourself.  I think that's the case
[00:30] <DonBrazini1> define*
[00:30] <qw30_> I don't know what they're up to, but shutting the system down is not hiberntion
[00:30] <zebastian> prince_jammys: my problem was that i didn't want compiz on lxde, that seems solved now, you told me there remained another one to delete, i logged into lxde without doing that, i noticed effectively compiz is gone and got a popup informing me about it, otherwise, i am simply asking which was the other file you wante dme to delete
[00:30] <sebsebseb> qw30_: Back for more trolling?
[00:30] <qw30_> no
[00:30] <prince_jammys> zebastian: perhaps you're getting an error because of /usr/share/applications/startcompiz  is trying to run a non-existant file.
[00:30] <prince_jammys> zebastian: err, startcompiz.desktop
[00:30] <qw30_> but I decided to test out ubuntu's fail hibernation
[00:31] <quickstartub> Ic ok I thought that there was an open source player that had payed the license fee for linux
[00:31] <zebastian> prince_jammys: where's that at?
[00:31] <sebsebseb> jpds: see above
[00:31] <zebastian> /usr/bin
[00:31] <qw30_> and it failed, epicly sir
[00:31] <prince_jammys> zebastian: i just typed it
[00:31] <jpds> qw30_: So, did you find out why?
[00:31] <qw30_> No
[00:31] <jpds> qw30_: Error logs, etc?
[00:31] <quickstartub> thanks
[00:31] <prince_jammys> zebastian: sudo mv /usr/share/applications/startcompiz.desktop  ~
[00:31] <qw30_> i just booted from grub
[00:31] <naxa> sebsebseb, well, I'm looking forward to 9.10 :) anyway i just wanted to quit couse it seemed that we've talked everything. but if there is something i can stay
[00:32] <qw30_> as per normal, and it pretended it never even hibernated
[00:32] <zebastian> sudo mv /usr/share/applications/startcompiz.desktop  ~ ? or sudo mv /usr/share/applications/startcompiz.desktop prince_jammys
[00:32] <prince_jammys> ~
[00:32] <luist> how can i merge AVI with SRT (subtitle file) ???
[00:32] <prince_jammys> zebastian: now the file will be hanging out in your homedir, and you can do with it what you like.
[00:32] <jpds> qw30_: Well, there might be something in the kernel log.
[00:32] <qw30_> yay
[00:33] <sebsebseb> naxa: Yes you nearly told me the whole of your computer related life story :D heh
[00:33] <jpds> qw30_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspendHibernateResume might help you out there.
[00:33] <naxa> sebsebseb, :D
[00:33] <qw30_> ty sir
[00:33] <naxa> sebsebseb, sorry, i talk too much
[00:34] <zebastian> prince_jammys: thankyou so much for your help, now can you help me with one other thing, the clock on lxde is in official 24 hour time, and when i try to click the clock preferences what i get is three blank lines, one of them says clock format, i think it expects me to write some sort of script and i dont know what it is to get it in am/pm format
[00:34] <naxa> sebsebseb, on the other hand, this was 'couse i have some problems. my idea is to make ubuntu my way, and the +2 minute at booting and the fact that my grapchics card works slower in ubuntu than in windows are among them
[00:34] <prince_jammys> zebastian: i can't help you with that, since I don't know that clock app. Check in their documentation how to change the settings.
[00:35] <zebastian> ok
[00:35] <sebsebseb> naxa: well 9.10 will probably take care of both isseus
[00:35] <qw30_> well that's the problem sir
[00:35] <Betavirgo> wenas
[00:35] <naxa> sebsebseb, i hope!
[00:35] <CoUrPsE> zebastian, timestamp format is usually hh:nn:sstt
[00:35] <CoUrPsE> Maybe it wants that/
[00:35] <qw30_> Ubuntu is too stupid to realie I cahgned
[00:35] <qw30_> bob saget!
[00:35] <luist> someone help me plz... how can i merge SRT into AVI or just burn video DVD adding the SRT to it??
[00:35] <qw30_> Ubuntu is to stupid to realise that I changed the swap partion
[00:35] <zebastian> CoUrPsE: hh= ? nn=? sstt=?
[00:36] <CoUrPsE> mm*
[00:36] <jpds> qw30_: Yeah, computers can't read minds yet.
[00:36] <CoUrPsE> zebastian, hh = 2 digit hour format, mm = 2 digit minute, ss = 2 digit seconds, tt = 2 digit am/pm return.
[00:37] <Logihk> "yet"
[00:37] <zebastian> CoUrPsE: ok, so if i want it to be 12 hour format instead of 24 for 17:35?
[00:37] <naxa> sebsebseb, another thing i miss is that in gnome, gtk file chooser, for example, in firefox, won't show thumbnails. win. vista and kde has a good opportunity to even resize the thumbnails, but in gnome, it was only recently added to show a tiny icon for each file in the list or show one big thumbnail of the selected file. i find this an issue when working with photos, like what if i'm a graphic designer and want to send work to my workm
[00:37] <naxa> ate. do i really need to memorize thousands of occasional file names, or rather switch to kde, or, save me, to windows? :)
[00:37] <causasui> I am wanting to change the filesystem of my root partition. What do I need to do besides rsync the data off, format, and rsync it back?
[00:37] <qw30_> so I have to get my leprechaun to do some crazy magic for me
[00:38] <jpds> Logihk: I am fluent in sarcasm.
[00:38] <CoUrPsE> zebastian, Just how i put it, lower case = 12 hour, upper case H = 24 hour.
[00:38] <qw30_> Ubuntu should read /etc/fstab like any proper operating system would
[00:38] <assinine> can anyone tell me why flash isn't working on my systems? one will play video only, no sound and one wont play anything other than the solid black box channel.
[00:38] <sebsebseb> naxa: gtk file chooser???
[00:38] <jpds> qw30_: It does.
[00:39] <Logihk> If I use Brasero to burn a Data Project, and stick a .avi on a CD, will that play fine in a DVD player?
[00:39] <BlackFate> qw30_, you mean the uuid thing?
[00:39] <qw30_> yes
[00:39] <ChogyDan> sebsebseb: I think that is the file save dialog, which is used for all upload too
[00:39] <BlackFate> qw30_, have you ever used uuids?
[00:39] <qw30_> who the hell knows about /etc/initramamfs-tools/conf.d?
[00:39] <qw30_> yeah, I fixed the swap ones
[00:39] <naxa> sebsebseb, i mean the thing what comes up in gnome when you use firefox, log into gmail, want to attach an (image) attachment and you click "BROWSE" button. then gtk file chooser comes up and --saves-- well, makes my bad day
[00:39] <sebsebseb> ChogyDan: ok maybe you can help naxa, to be honest quite a lot of the stuff they have said to me so far hasn't completly made sense for me
[00:39] <ChogyDan> Logihk: I always burned video cds or svideo cds, and those played in the dvd player
[00:40] <Logihk> Alright.
[00:40] <qw30_> I guess UUIDs are some magic partion number because it's somehow illogical to use device files
[00:40] <zebastian> CoUrPsE: i just typed 5:40 pm and it changed it but now i wonder if it will switch to am once the time passes
[00:40] <CoUrPsE> nn.
[00:40] <naxa> sebsebseb, ChogyDan : you're right :)
[00:40] <CoUrPsE> wth?
[00:40] <CoUrPsE> :/
[00:40] <zebastian> CoUrPsE:  nn ?
[00:40] <jpds> qw30_: No, device files might change when you put in a new disk for example.
[00:40] <Dorne> thanks popey for the script, but I'll find another way to record
[00:41] <CoUrPsE> You wrote the time in?
[00:41] <qw30_> oh
[00:41] <CoUrPsE> or the time format?
[00:41] <zebastian> CoUrPsE: yes, i wrote 05:40
[00:41] <prince_jammys> well, it's going to be the right time once a day.
[00:41] <CoUrPsE> lol.
[00:41] <CoUrPsE> kk.
[00:41] <zebastian> LMAO
[00:41] <assinine> hello
[00:41] <zebastian> ROFL
[00:41] <BlackFate> qw30_, youll propably know when you have sata disks dont have a fixed letter in /dev/sdX
[00:41] <CoUrPsE> i suggested to use the time format, but if that worked, as you were.
[00:41] <zebastian> CoUrPsE: just got ya
[00:41]  * CoUrPsE ponders.
[00:41] <BlackFate> qw30_, does the job quite well
[00:41] <ChogyDan> naxa: sebsebseb well, its a feature request.  I don't know exactly what to do about that
[00:42] <jpds> qw30_: And you can always find out what which device has which uuid by doing: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[00:42] <naxa> ChogyDan, i understand that the real thing i would need to fix this is to download the gnome source code and fix it for myself. but i always ask this becouse i hope that on a nice day gnome developers will be enlighted and realize this as an issue and check it. :)
[00:42] <CoUrPsE> if the edit box was to set thge time itself, putting ht eformat in wont work,
[00:42] <assinine> I'd just like to get my flash working please.
[00:42] <bboru> my jaunty install wont boot. says its a ro file system.  think it's because i uninstalled splashy? what do i do?
[00:42] <qw30_> they're too freaking long
[00:42] <MenZa> !flash | assinine
[00:42] <BlackFate> qw30_, ppl who complain about UUID really dont undestand the potential
[00:42] <bazhang> assinine, in super-ubuntu? or the real thing
[00:42] <naxa> ChogyDan, also I always have a secret hope that there is some "plugin" I am not aware of what turns gtk file chooser into nautilus
[00:42] <BlackFate> qw30_, of uuids
[00:42] <shadowwulf> i have ubuntu 9.04 version and i think the desktop screwed up, is there a way to get the dektop to come back ? it errors with failed to start X ser
[00:42] <jpds> qw30_: Has too be unique somehow.
[00:42] <assinine> MenZa: I've already installed flash.
[00:42] <zebastian>  CoUrPsE i have a problem now, i entered the format and what i get on the digital clock is hh: mm:sstt
[00:42] <assinine> bazhang: both.
 if the edit box was to set thge time itself, putting ht eformat in wont work,
[00:43] <naxa> ChogyDan, or, more preciesly, nautilus into gtk file chooser
[00:43] <qw30_> what happens if you magically have 2 devices with the same uuid?
[00:43] <BlackFate> jpds, vol_id command does the trick too
[00:43] <Logihk> shadowwulf: ctrl+alt+F2 to a console, enjoy text-only computing. ◔ ◡ ◔
[00:43] <BlackFate> qw30_, than cant happen.. every uuid is unique
[00:43] <zebastian> CoUrPsE: how do i check that what i just did actually works? i just typed in the time, but i am not sure that it's ticking or doing what it's suosed to
[00:43] <jpds> BlackFate: I know.
[00:43] <kandjar> Why can't I do "screen -r
[00:43] <kandjar> oops
[00:44] <CoUrPsE> does the clock movie?
[00:44] <CoUrPsE> lol.
[00:44] <shadowwulf> logihk, so i have to reinstall ?
[00:44] <kandjar> why can't I do "screen -r" after using "su"?
[00:44] <dragon> I have to change my UID on my system. Is there an easy way?
[00:44] <naxa> Logihk, whoa, what's the code for ◔ ◡ ◔??
[00:44] <kandjar> i m getting a tty error
[00:44] <qw30_> let's hibernate and see what happens
[00:44] <Pricey> kandjar: you need to start a screen under a user in order to reattach to it
[00:44] <dragon> kandjar: screen requires a tty, so you have to be logged in directly
[00:45] <zebastian> CoUrPsE: the clock is not changing minutes, and no, it's a still clock on the taskbar
[00:45] <CoUrPsE> Nice.
[00:45] <CoUrPsE> You'll never be late for school/work now, :)
[00:45] <credo> maybe the screen under different user?
[00:45] <BlackFate> qw30_, uuids change only when you format partition or resize etc
[00:46] <zebastian> CoUrPsE: http://azitech.wordpress.com/2009/02/10/lxde/
[00:46] <kandjar> Pricey: that's why i su to that user
[00:46] <Logihk> naxa: highlight it in your irc client, open a text editor, click the scroll wheel to paste highlighted text. ◔ ◡ ◔
[00:46] <dragon> Logihk: wow.
[00:46] <assinine> hello
[00:46] <dragon> !hi | assinine
[00:47] <carresmd_> someone type please /nick carresmd and tell me if able to take my nick with no error
[00:47] <kandjar> I have screen running under user1; and I'm sshed in user2; so I do 'su user1' and I tried 'screen -r' but it doesnt work
[00:47] <zebastian> CoUrPsE: ok so apparently a %sign is necessary and then what you told me
[00:47] <MenZa> carresmd_: This is not the place. Try #freenode instead.
[00:47] <CoUrPsE> zebastian, So what happens when you put this in yours %d.%m.%Y %T ?
[00:47] <Evelina> Why isn't this working: curl -Ls some_kind_pf_url | xargs echo | grep "title(.*?)<\/title"
[00:47] <ChogyDan> naxa: ok, how about this: use drag a file from nautilus to filechooser
[00:47] <afallenhope> nvm.. after installing firefox 3.5 apparently java got disabled
[00:47] <credo> check with "whoami"
[00:48] <CoUrPsE> zebastian, Well i have no idea of your program your trying to use, i just suggested the normal time format to ya, :)
[00:48] <kandjar> I'm getting "Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/1' - please check."
[00:48] <naxa> Logihk, ◔ ◡ ◔ i am able to copy-paste, but i think there is a code for this on the keyboard like alt 23454 or something like that :)
[00:48] <afallenhope> just had to go into the firefox addons and enable it
[00:48] <assinine> each 3 characters of that are a different code naxa
[00:49] <zebastian> CoUrPsE: it gives me the day month year and time, so i took everything but time out, i tried using a lower case thinking maybe that will change to 12 hour format considering what you told me but what that did was erase the clock altogether what i'm going to do now is try to do %H %M
[00:49] <naxa> ChogyDan, well, I never tried this yet, thanks! :) I'll try. however, I think this is just a workaround. computer stuff needs to work comfortably
[00:49] <CoUrPsE> Thats very odd.
[00:49] <naxa> assinine, yeah, i know that. so what's the (3) code? :)
[00:49] <sebsebseb> Logihk: see my pm I am interested in how you did ◔ ◡ ◔
[00:49] <ChogyDan> naxa: yeah, I can think of a couple minimal improvements, like at least a comment in filechooser telling you this is an option
[00:49] <Logihk> naxa: Yeah, I don't know the code for it. I personally just copied and pasted myself.
[00:50] <CoUrPsE> zebastian, Change it to %r
[00:50] <naxa> ChogyDan, yeah, it would be nice. :) i would prefer thumbnails in the file chooser, so the optimal solution would be if there would be a configurable file chooser what could have thumbnails if i want them
[00:50] <sebsebseb> Logihk: Character Map I guess
[00:50] <naxa> ChogyDan, but also tips are nice too
[00:51] <assinine> I would help out someone but I never have more knowledge than enough to google things for people.
[00:51] <naxa> Logihk, oh i see, ok :) thanks
[00:51] <zebastian> CoUrPsE: that fixed it, only i don't like seeing the seconds, how do i get rid of that? they're distracting
[00:51] <CoUrPsE> :/
[00:51] <naxa> assinine, this is a familiar case :)
[00:51] <CoUrPsE> zebastian, No idea.
[00:51] <Logihk> Sebsebseb: check your pm.
[00:52] <BlackFate> Evelina, curl -Ls www.in.gr | grep "<\/title" this worked for me
[00:52] <BlackFate> ops
[00:52] <assinine> i entreat, please tell me how to get flash working!
[00:52] <BlackFate> Evelina, curl -Ls URL | grep "<\/title" this worked for me
[00:52] <sebsebseb> Logihk: did, and thanks
[00:52] <naxa> ChogyDan, I've heard that gnome 3.0 will happen in the not so very far future. I am very curious... if i were gnome3 development leader, thumbnails in gtk file chooser would be at the top of my list in 2em size
[00:53] <naxa> well... or someting bigger :)
[00:53] <ChogyDan> naxa: you may want to look at neitgesit.  I think that's what it is called...
[00:53] <sebsebseb> naxa: 10.04 will still use  Gnome 2, but if Gnome 3 is ready by then it will  probably have in the repo
[00:53] <sebsebseb> !10.04
[00:54] <zebastian> courpse, only it's delayed, it's going but it's delayed...hmm i'll go gnome, modify the time and come abck and see if that did it
[00:54] <zebastian> brb
[00:54] <naxa> sebsebseb, thanks for the information :) good to know!
[00:54] <assinine> (^ ◡ ^) asian style
[00:54] <assinine> japanese, rather
[00:54] <naxa> ChogyDan, are you sure it's neitgesit? google found me nothing :(
[00:54] <sebsebseb> naxa: np
[00:54] <ChogyDan> naxa: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeZeitgeist
[00:55] <ChogyDan> naxa: it wouldn't make much sense if they didn't include the filechooser in that, but hey, they might forget
[00:56] <naxa> sebsebseb, ChogyDan by the way, don't you know if there is a way to make all ubuntu windows smaller? I think ubuntu has a habit to ruin my 1024x768 (or even 800x600 sometimes) resolution with windows what won't fit on the screen. i have to press the alt and move. I always thought that if windows xp can fit into 800x600, then how can i configure ubuntu to also fit to 800x600? my idea is that 640x480 is a big resolution... it's bigger tha
[00:56] <naxa> n 320x240. :)
[00:57] <sebsebseb> naxa: that's to do with your Intel graphics card and xorg I guess
[00:57] <naxa> ChogyDan, this is very interesting thing :)
[00:57] <Logihk> Anybody know the package I'd need to get Brasero to burn XviD, etc.?
[00:57] <thiebaude> naxa, i use 800x600
[00:57] <Logihk> Says it is not possible to write with the current set of plugins
[00:57] <naxa> sebsebseb, no, i mean buttons are too big and have too much margins
[00:58] <ChogyDan> naxa: I would suggest UNR ie the netbook remix.  The interface is different, but also work is done to make sure the dialogs fit
[00:58] <naxa> thiebaude, i used to use 800x600... don't you feel sometimes that just every window and menu is too big?
[00:58] <sebsebseb> assinine: (^ ◡ ^)   :)
[00:58] <naxa> ChogyDan, i always wanted to have a look :)
[00:59] <Heather> does anyone know how to disable a key on a keyboard? My keyboard has an annoying sleep button that I can't cancel once pushed and my computer doesn't power up from sleeping properly so it's basically an instant shutdown button
[00:59] <thiebaude> naxa, everthing is just right any resolution higher then everything is too small
[00:59] <ChogyDan> Heather: I think you can change that in the power management preferences
[00:59] <thiebaude> naxa, i have an older monitor anyway
[01:00] <rocky_> if I were to do  sudo dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb2, would it copy all of the data on sda1 sector by sector to sdb2?
[01:00] <rocky_> I need to make sure that I'm doing it right
[01:00] <naxa> thiebaude, i see :)
[01:00] <thiebaude> naxa, with a brand new computer
[01:00] <naxa> thiebaude, well, in my case, the problem is not with the monitor, but with the resolution
[01:00] <Heather> oh that worked
[01:00] <Heather> thanks so much!
[01:00] <Evelina> BlackFate: Yeah, but it only works when the title is on a single line, therefore I have to get all code on one line OR get the grep/sed/awk work on one or more lines.
[01:00] <thiebaude> naxa, graphics card has alot to do with it
[01:01] <naxa> thiebaude, i used to have an old monitor with a new computer, when i realized i would better use a new monitor with an old computer
[01:01]  * thiebaude im glad im done with intel
[01:01] <shadiko> OH
[01:01] <shadiko> Hai,
[01:01] <naxa> thiebaude, well, yeah, but i am able to use bigger resolutions, it's just that i always feel that ubuntu somehow wastes my screen space
[01:02] <zebastian> CoUrPsE: setting the time on gnome and coming back did it
[01:02] <sebsebseb> !hi |  Shadiko
[01:02] <zebastian> now i only need a person who knows lxde
[01:02] <phat-ass> I upgraded to the most recent kernel (along with everything else) last night and get a hang at the graphical login screen. Going back to 6.25-2 with GRUB everything works fine. Any ideas?
[01:02] <thiebaude> naxa, which graphics card?
[01:02] <karan> hi guyz
[01:03] <sebsebseb> !welcome | karan
[01:03] <karan> i need some advice
[01:03] <sebsebseb> !ask |  karan
[01:03] <thiebaude> karan, what is your question
[01:03] <zebastian> anyone here know lxde?
[01:04] <karan> sure, i want ton get the new ipod nano 5g (with the camera) since the zune hd isnt available in canada
[01:04] <thiebaude> zebastian, i used it briefly
[01:04] <Logihk> Noooooo
[01:04] <karan> to*
[01:04] <Logihk> Don't do it karan.
[01:04] <sebsebseb> karan: ok I see, well  the Zune and Ipod  Nano and what not,  these products are not Linux friendly
[01:04] <zebastian> thiebaude: how come no more?
[01:04] <karan> no im thinking of selling my zune 8gb
[01:04] <karan> and buying the nano
[01:05] <Logihk> Yes, but don't get an iPod.
[01:05] <rocky_> if I were to do  sudo dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb2, would it copy all of the data on sda1 sector by sector to sdb2?
[01:05] <Logihk> Don't get an Apple or Microsoft product.
[01:05] <sebsebseb> karan: the nano is not Linux friendly either
[01:05] <thiebaude> zebastian, i dont need to use them to save ram since i have 2gb now
[01:05] <karan> because of its more functions
[01:05] <Logihk> Enemy of your freedom, etc.
[01:05] <sebsebseb> karan: there is lesser known stuff that is also rather good :)
[01:05] <sebsebseb> karan: look at the cowon stuff
[01:05] <naxa> thiebaude, well, i have ubuntu on a mobile hdd. on this computer there is a very old intel 82845/G graphics card. on the other i have a geforce 8xxx and on the third there is an ati radeon.
[01:05] <zebastian> thiebaude: i got 2gb too but it's nice how fast it moves
[01:05] <zebastian> especially the file manager
[01:05] <sabat> does ubuntu [jj, 9.04] automount USB flash drives on a default install??
[01:05] <karan> i would get an archos if i had the money..
[01:05] <MenZa> Yes, sabat.
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> theres a lot of mp3 players out there. :)  and video - been looking at the Samsung stuff
[01:06] <thiebaude> zebastian, yea, but i want my compiz
[01:06] <sebsebseb> karan: I haven't got any of them personally, but I hear they are very good,  plus they support OGG/Vorbis and FLAC which are open file formats :) and so yes rather Linux friendly
[01:06] <sabat> hmm, I assumed so, wonder why it won't work with mine :P
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> sabat:  it should.  depending on the filesystem
[01:06] <thiebaude> wobbly windows and rotating cubes
[01:06] <karan> well deos anyone know a place in canada where i can sell my zune for around 150?
[01:06] <sabat> not sure what FS, it's whatever it came with
[01:06] <sabat> works in windows
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> sabat:   that means very little :)
[01:06] <sebsebseb> karan: no and that's offtopic for this channel, but it will be ok I guess to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:06] <naxa> thiebaude, i am pretty convinced that it's nothing to do with my graphics card but with ui design
[01:06] <thiebaude> naxa, yea, i got a GeForce also
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> sabat:  sudo fdisk -l and look and see what fs it is
[01:06] <Jeruvy> karan: you should ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:07] <naxa> thiebaude, maybe geforce is the best solution for gnome
[01:07] <sabat> my flash drive just blinks when i plug it in
[01:07] <thiebaude> naxa, i used to use 800x600 in xp also when i had xp
[01:07] <naxa> thiebaude, me too
[01:07] <karan> is there an itunes version for ubuntu?
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> sabat:  check 'dmesg' command a few times as you plug it in also to debug whats going on
[01:07] <thiebaude> naxa, i agree with you,nvidia graphics and sound i have
[01:07] <zebastian> Dr_Willis: you use lxde right?
[01:07] <sebsebseb> karan: no Apple and Microsoft do not make their products for Linux
[01:07] <naxa> nice :)
[01:08] <sebsebseb> karan: Linux also has it's own pretty good music players :)
[01:08] <naxa> well, everyone, i have to go. it's 2 am here... :)
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> zebastian:  yes.. i dident care for it.
[01:08] <naxa> good night! bye!
[01:08] <n-iCe> naxa: nite
[01:08] <sebsebseb> karan: many of which can also work with standard Ipods to sync them
[01:08] <thiebaude> karan, and then there is songbird
[01:08] <sabat>  /dev/sde1 w95 FAT16 (LBA)
[01:08] <zebastian> Dr_Willis: how do you mean you didn't care for it?
[01:08] <assinine> ◔ ◡ ◔ can anyone tell me why my flash isn't working? is anyone having a similar experience?
[01:08] <sebsebseb> karan: Banshee  can do Ipods
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> zebastian:  i dont like it.
[01:09] <thiebaude> assinine, you using 64bit?
[01:09] <ubuntu> how do i copy a hidden folder to another location or unhide so that i can access it ?
[01:09] <assinine> thiebaude: 32
[01:09] <thiebaude> ok
[01:09] <sebsebseb> karan: you should buy stuff that supports open standards, hence why I recommended that you  look at the cowon products
[01:09] <ChogyDan> ubuntu: ctrl+h
[01:09] <zebastian> Dr_Willis: weren't you the one who sold me into it about a week and a half ago?
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> sabat:  you could install/run the 'ntfs-config' tool and check the options to enable external and internal media (yes its for both vfat and ntfs drives) and/or mount the thing manually
[01:09] <ubuntu> ChogyDan, i see the folder .. but i want to copy the contents out of it
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> zebastian:  you are confused. I definatly do not like or reccomend lxde
[01:10] <sebsebseb> karan: When I say open standards do you know what I mean?
[01:10] <sabat> nah, it's cool now. I didn't realize it mounted it in /media
[01:10] <zebastian> Dr_Willis: why don't you recomend it? i'm just curious as to why you say so as though you would nearly discourage it
[01:10] <sabat> I was looking in /mnt
[01:10] <N3SS> buenas
[01:10] <ubuntu> is there flash for 64 bit ?
[01:10] <N3SS> alguien que use nvidia que me ayude con el twinview?
[01:10] <thiebaude> zebastian, try openbox
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> zebastian:  if you have a question about lxde ask the channel..  others may  know the answers
[01:10] <sabat> Caused the problem myself :D
[01:10] <N3SS> ya se ke es en ingles pero necesito ayuda
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> zebastian:  it has no features i need.
[01:11] <sabat> <-- PEBKAC
[01:11] <zebastian> thiebaude: i did years ago, never liked it much
[01:11] <karan> im just guessing dont talk about anything linux deosnt like right?
[01:11] <thiebaude> ahh, ok
[01:11] <dereks> i have an old machine i want to use as a headless box, connected via wifi. How hard is that to do if i install ubuntu with know xserver?
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> sabat:  :) I often link /media to /mnt :) but now ive learned to look in /media
[01:11] <karan> um is there cowon in canada?
[01:11] <thiebaude> zebastian, i had used it a long time
[01:11] <dereks> i want the headless box to connect to get an ip on book
[01:11] <sebsebseb> karan: of course not :)  you can talk about Ipod and Apple and stuff in here.    you can get cowon stuff online
[01:11] <rocky_> if I were to do  sudo dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb2, would it copy all of the data on sda1 sector by sector to sdb2?
[01:11] <bazhang> karan, this is ubuntu support; please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> rocky_:  yes basically thats what it does.
[01:12] <rocky_> epic
[01:12] <durt> dereks, no prob, graphical system has noting to do with much of anything else.
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> rocky_:  dont get your arguments backwards... or wrong. :)
[01:12] <sebsebseb> karan: you can ask  how to get an Ipod  or whatever working in Ubuntu,  but  most other stuff will be off topic  to do with buying a product and that
[01:12] <ubuntu> ChogyDan, i see the folder .. how do i copy the contents out ?
[01:12] <rocky_> lol, just had to make sure
[01:12] <mattgirv> karan: You can use GTKpod to sync with the iPod but it 'can' be fiddly getting it working initially. Its definitely better to get something that is a bit more open in terms of support if you can.
[01:12] <rocky_> if=thesource of=thedestination
[01:13] <sebsebseb> karan: let's continue in #ubuntu-offtopic plus other people will be able to help you in there
[01:13] <karan> i cant see the price for the cowon products :S?
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> rocky_:  and dont get 'sda' confused with 'sda1'
[01:13] <ChogyDan> ubuntu what is the problem?  Can't you just do it in a normal manner?  I'm not sure I follow
[01:13] <rocky_> lol
[01:13] <rocky_> I know the difference between sda and sda1, sda is the whole first hdd, sda1 is the first partition on the first drive
[01:13]  * thiebaude lets raid #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:13] <ubuntu> ChogyDan, i see the .hidden folder ... but i need to copy the contents out of it ... it wont let me access it
[01:13] <rocky_> thiebaude, I'll join you ;)
[01:13] <rocky_> jk
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> rocky_:  and one typo in dd.. can = deleted drive. :) so be carefull
[01:14] <thiebaude> ok, 1sec
[01:14] <ChogyDan> karan: fsf has a hardware page too
[01:14] <rocky_> o.O
[01:14] <ChogyDan> ubuntu does it say anything about the lack of access?
[01:14] <assinine> can anyone tell me why flash isn't working on my systems? one will play video only, no sound and one wont play anything other than the solid black box channel.
[01:14] <rocky_> Dr_Willis, I'm going to explain my situation as exact as I can
[01:15] <ChogyDan> assinine: is this 9.04?  have you tried pulse perfect setup?
[01:15] <ubuntu> ChogyDan, the folder contents could not be displayed ... you do not have the permissions to display it
[01:15] <assinine> ChogyDan: yes. no, how do you do that?
[01:15] <dereks> durt: how would i go about doing it
[01:15] <ChogyDan> assinine: http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#FlashPlayer
[01:17] <donnybrasco> hello - I need help with installing jaunty on my other system - here's the error I'm getting: "BUG: Int 14 CR2 ffffb0f0..."
[01:17] <durt> dereks, start with either a server install or a cli only install from the desktop alternate cd...
[01:17] <rocky_> Dr_Willis, /dev/sda1 (which is ntfs) has bad sectors, so I'm going to make a full backup (including even the bad sectors) to an external drive's partition /dev/sdb2, which is also ntfs.  the external is bigger than the internal.  here is the command that I <think> should do the backup: sudo dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb2
[01:17] <ChogyDan> ubuntu hmm, maybe right click the folder and try changing some of the permissions, including the last one re executable stuff
[01:17] <Logihk> "Ingsoc"
[01:17] <Logihk> Ha. Ha. Ha.
[01:18] <dereks> durt: right, but how do i configure a wpa session to start on boot
[01:18] <donnybrasco> I was unable to boot or install from the live cd and had to install using the alternate installer, but now I'm getting the same error when booting from the hd
[01:19] <durt> dereks, that I'm not familiar with but google for 'wireless at boot ubuntu' gives results.
[01:19] <gwildor> donnybrasco, looks like the bug report, and a fix, are here               https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/312554
[01:20] <gwildor> dereks, you can put whatever command(S) you use at the end of ~/.profile
[01:20] <rocky_> well, Dr_Willis? does the command look correct?
[01:20] <gwildor> dereks, and it will do it on login..
[01:20] <donnybrasco> gwildor, thanks
[01:21] <gwildor> donnybrasco, sorry if it seems difficult....i cant help more, i have to go in 2 mmins
[01:21] <rCX> What is the hotkey to show the desktop?
[01:21] <rocky_> rcx, you can set it
[01:22] <rCX> rocky_: how?
[01:22] <rocky_> look in system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[01:22] <rCX> rocky_: thx
[01:22] <rocky_> e.g., awhile ago I set ctrl+r to open up a terminal window instead of refreshing
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> rocky_:  to recover 'bad' data - there is the specilized 'dd_rescue' (or was it ddrescue) command. and you can 'dd' a drive image to a file. then access/mount that file via the loopback feature. no need to dd it to another hard drive as a image.. just to a file somewhere you can work on it can work.
[01:23] <O__o> hi how to go into linksys router without gui?
[01:24] <rocky_> hmmm
[01:24] <rocky_> Dr_Willis, can you give me syntax?
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> O__o:  the lynx or other text based browsers has worked for me
[01:24] <rocky_> assume everything I said in the previous post
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> rocky_:  use of=/path/to/whateverfile
[01:24] <O__o> Dr_Willis, but i try
[01:24] <rocky_> um
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> rocky_:  also use the BS= option to make the block size a little bigger for faster reading
[01:25] <O__o> Dr_Willis, i just want to see status who is on the network
[01:25] <rocky_> I am wondering, it won't do something silly like start copying the backup to the backup, will it?
[01:25] <donnybrasco> gwildor: thanks for your help anyway - that link is chinese to me :)
[01:25] <rocky_> so, would I do ddrescue if=/dev/sda1 of=/mybackup ?
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> dd if=/dev/sda1  of=/media/archives/sda1.image
[01:25] <rocky_> all the filesystems are ntfs, does that make a difference?
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html
[01:26] <rocky_> lol, I'm think I'm one of the people that just wants people to give him a command -_- lol
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> a --block-size=1024 will speed it up a little.
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> learn what you are doing and why... dont just expect others to 'care' if they make a mistake.
[01:27] <donnybrasco> can anyone walk me through how to fix this bug?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/312554
[01:27] <quidnunc> Can anybody see jsmath on this page correctly?  http://sputsoft.com/2009/09/remembering-trigonometric-addition-formulas/#utm_source=feed&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed
[01:27] <rocky_> Dr_Willis, yes, I understand that philosophy... but I don't always live it
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> ddrescue is designed to retry reading the data if its 'bad' several times befor it gives up.
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> normal dd is more brain dead..
[01:28] <rocky_> ok
[01:28] <rocky_> well.....
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Ddrescue
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> i dont think ddrescue uses the if/of type command line :)
[01:29] <rocky_> hm
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> you MIGHT want to ddrescue to the other hard drive instead of a file.. becuse windows wont be able to 'filesystemcheck' the file. but it could check/verify a exteranl drive
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> ddrescue and dd_rescue are completely different programs which share no development between them.
[01:31] <rocky_> Dr_Willis, I'm looking at this line right now:     ddrescue --no-split /dev/hda1 imagefile logfile
[01:32] <rocky_> I think that is what I want, except for it to be     ddrescue --no-split /dev/sda1 imagefile logfile
[01:32] <rocky_> I'll give that a shot, I guess, unless any red flags with you pop up
[01:33] <zebastian> how do i get rid of the bongo sound in the login screen?
[01:34] <blunder> hello
[01:35] <rocky_> ohai
[01:35] <dragonlyre> !hi |blunder
[01:35] <crunchybangy> hi blunder
[01:35] <blunder> how are things
[01:36] <durt> peachy keen, blunder , gotta question?
[01:36] <donnybrasco> I'm having trouble installing kubuntu to my other system - apparently this bug applies, but I have no clue what to do about it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/312554
[01:36] <donnybrasco> can anyone help/walk me through this?
[01:36] <Cydell> does anyone know of an application that will allow me to have an IM for all the networked computers at my house?
[01:36] <blunder> no no really thought I might just idle for a bit...
[01:37] <chuy_max> how do I enable sound in Amarok 2?
[01:37] <donaldo> I have the black screen after installing nvidia drivers karmic
[01:38] <durt> donnybrasco, the bug was fixed, how is it still affecting you?
[01:38] <rewn> Cydell: openfire + pidgin
[01:38] <Spreadsheet> What is a well supported ftpd?
[01:38] <donnybrasco> I have no idea - just tried to install off the live cd, which didn't work, then off the alternate - which seemed to work, but I got the same error when booting from the hd
[01:39] <saru> Hey does Ubuntu have software that plays Blu-Ray?
[01:39] <Cydell> do I need an account or anything for that to work?
[01:39] <Spreadsheet> saru: read the docs
[01:39] <saru> or does VLC play blu-ray?
[01:39] <jgblanco> hi
[01:39] <quidnunc> !non-free | saru
[01:39] <quidnunc> !codecs | saru
[01:39] <Spreadsheet> I need an ftpd with an active irc channel
[01:39] <Spreadsheet> *a
[01:40] <chuy_max> how do I disable the touchpad click?
[01:40] <aleron> does anybody know how do i install songbird from source
[01:40] <aleron> i just got a folder of files
[01:40] <durt> donnybrasco, when did you download/burn the iso?
[01:40] <donnybrasco> durt: just last night
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> aleron:  you extract the archive, cd into it.. run it..
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> aleron:  thats how ive done it in the past.
[01:41] <aleron> so how is it again
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> aleron:  ive also had issues with it NOT working in the past few weeks.,
[01:41] <aleron> cause iu forgot
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> extract the archive.. it makes a dir. called 'songbird' or whatever.. the binary is in there somewhere that you run
[01:41] <jgblanco> hi
[01:42] <Uragano705460> .:::] Ci40 @ Tutti [:::. »BuTT3rF|y sCr|pT«»rEvOLuTiOnZ»v2.6«
[01:42] <jgblanco> i can't connect to my wireless network at home; i'm on a jaunty installation and my wireless card is an intel 3945 one
[01:42] <Uragano705460> ciao
[01:42] <Uragano705460> !list
[01:42] <durt> donnybrasco, whatever is happening I doubt it's this bug, can you paste the error in a pastebin?
[01:42] <nErVe> a few days back one of my friends changed a few bash settings.
[01:42] <nErVe>  everytime i say open terminal here in any folder the terminal points to the home direstory
[01:43] <nErVe> which file to I have to edit to change the settings
[01:43] <donnybrasco> durt: ok - give me one sec, cause I'll have to type it out (it's on my other system)
[01:43] <donnybrasco> ! pastebin
[01:43] <stevex> Hey, I'm having some problems installing Ubuntu Server
[01:44] <donaldo> hello
[01:44] <durt> stevex, did you try #ubuntu-server?
[01:44] <donaldo> help me please, I have the black screen after installing nvidia drivers karmic
[01:44] <stevex> Not yet, should I go there?
[01:44] <bazhang> donaldo, #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[01:44] <bruce-almightywo> hi i am new and need a little help with my usb mouse keep stopping
[01:45] <bruce-almightywo> yes
[01:45] <bazhang> stevex, ask here
[01:46] <stevex> Ok, one second
[01:46] <donaldo> bazhagan: ok
[01:46] <phat-ass> OK, now I've got a more clearly defined problem, I guess. I get the Jaunty xubuntu login screen and it now just reboots after about 5 seconds. Is that a kernel problem? Xorg?
[01:47] <kernowsoul> hi all, im trying to install ubuntu 9.10 moblin remix on a netbook from a usb stick but I can't get it to load, gives me the error "can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow" any ideas?
[01:48] <bazhang> kernowsoul, the karmic support channel is #ubuntu+1
[01:48] <coolcat> hi, how can I use a gif animation in a latex presentation like for example the beamer class? Is that possible?
[01:48] <hikenboot> getting Failed to download some Release or Release.gpg files! trying to download with debmirror anyone know how to fix
[01:48] <kernowsoul> thx bazhang
[01:49] <durt> phat-ass, does booting in recovery give you boot details?
[01:50] <phat-ass> I can't boot into recovery on the latest kernel.
[01:51] <durt> phat-ass, but if it gives you details it'll give you an idea when the boot stops/restarts.
[01:52] <donnybrasco> durt: sorry for the wait - here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/278343/
[01:52] <phat-ass> I'll try that. I'll be back to let you know what happened. This is my only working machine right now, of course.
[01:52] <phat-ass> That was to durt.
[01:57] <quidnunc> Can anybody see jsmath on this page correctly?  http://sputsoft.com/2009/09/remembering-trigonometric-addition-formulas/#utm_source=feed&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed
[01:57] <Spreadsheet> How do I get Ubuntu to stop beeping, even when I turn off the volume>
[01:57] <dmf> Hey, everyone. I'm trying to create an 'emergency' USB stick running non-live Ubuntu... installation went absolutely perfectly, but I'm noticing that /tmp if using waaaay too many cycles on the poor thing. I heard that using tmpfs for /tmp would help, can anyone explain how to do that?
[01:58] <dmf> Spreadsheet: I think that would be system beeping. What's causing the beeps would help.
[01:58] <Spreadsheet> I'm causing the beeping
[01:58] <dmf> By doing what?
[01:58] <Spreadsheet> I open gedit, and then backspace on an empty document
[01:58] <Spreadsheet> It beeps
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> dmf:  i recall the AcerAspireone/Ubuntu netbook remix thread on the forums had that tip and others for resucing disk ussage/improveing live span.  But i just use the usb-creator tool i think it may allrady do a lot of that
[01:59] <durt> donnybrasco, I see, well if the latest kernel in JJ isn't working right then either a downgrade to II or try out KK.
[01:59] <dmf> Dr_Willis: It's a bit late for me to be attempting to use usb-creator... I'm trying to find a definitive guide to forcing /tmp into a tmpfs, but I've yet to find a decent one.
[02:00] <donnybrasco> durt: thanks very much for your time - I figured that I might get that answer eventually, but I
[02:00] <DigitalKiwi> Spreadsheet: alsamixer and hope you have a pc-beep option
[02:00] <donnybrasco> durt: **I'm just learning
[02:01] <durt> donnybrasco, what MB/cpu?
[02:01] <Spreadsheet> ok
[02:01] <donnybrasco> durt: didn't want to just jump to that solution if there was an oppurtunity to learn more
[02:01] <donnybrasco> durt: hang on- let me check
[02:02] <durt> donnybrasco, there is, but if this is a new install it's not worth the headache. Although if your up to it try and find a newer kernel for JJ in the PPAs but you need to chroot to your install from a live cd to install it.
[02:04] <stevex> Ok, I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server 9.04 and I have gotten two error msg's already
[02:05] <skath> How do I get karmic to load without launching GDM?  Just installed from the Alpha 6 ISO and it freezes at the splash screen - no ctrl-alt-backspace, no ctrl-alt-delete, no ctrl-alt-f1
[02:05] <stevex> Warning file:///cdrom/pool/main/l/langpack-locales/locales_2.9+cus20090214-7_all.deb was corrupt
[02:06] <stevex> and also "The installer cannot find a suitable kernel package to install"
[02:06] <Guest92229> question i have a nolder hp computer 700 mhz and im trying to put ubuntu 9.04 on it and it seems to be taking a long time to even get the live cd to boot...?
[02:06] <skath> I tried loading karmic with the recovery mode grub option and it blows right past the recovery menu, launches GDM and freezes
[02:06] <bazhang> skath, karmic support in #ubuntu+1
[02:07] <space_case> question i have an older hp computer 700 mhz and im trying to put ubuntu 9.04 on it and it seems to be taking a long time to even get the live cd to boot...?
[02:07] <skath> thanks bazhang
[02:07] <durt> skath, I think you hold down shift
[02:07] <bazhang> space_case, how much ram
[02:07] <space_case> 256 mb
[02:07] <space_case> it take a few minutes on my 600 mhz gateway....
[02:07] <bazhang> space_case, that does not sound abnormal
[02:09] <N-RoN> quick question. Does Ubuntu use DMG Image files?
[02:10] <bazhang> N-RoN, no it does not
[02:10] <stevex> During the process of me trying to install, my screen will just fill up with a bunch of different colors, and then give me error msg's saying it can't load this file
[02:10] <N-RoN> Is that only a mac image file type
[02:10] <bazhang> stevex, did you md5 the iso
[02:10] <bazhang> N-RoN, correct
[02:10] <durt> stevex, are you trying to install amd64 on 32bit?
[02:11] <mattgirv> N-RoN: Obviously you won't be able to install Mac software, but if its just regular files within the DMG you need - http://baghira.sourceforge.net/dmg.htm
[02:11] <NeuroFryk> anyone recommend any free nx servers, and where I can download it? Doesn't seem to be on the repository
[02:11] <stevex> The computer is an old Compaq Presario that used to have Windows 98 on it, could it be that the CPU is just to old or the Hard Drive isn't big enough?
[02:12] <bazhang> stevex, I would md5 the iso; could be a corrupted download
[02:12] <donnybrasco> durt: I can't seem to find out what mb/cpu I'm running - it's an ACER Aspire t325
[02:12] <bazhang> !md5
[02:12] <stevex> So the image just might be bad?
[02:13] <lasthopesinyouu> After playing with compiz my title bar on top of windows has gone away, any idea how i can get it back?
[02:13] <bazhang> stevex, could be, best to verify
[02:13] <NeuroFryk> lasthopes:  makes sure the window decorations checkbox is checked
[02:13] <lasthopesinyouu> ok
[02:13] <NeuroFryk> in the compiz config
[02:14] <lasthopesinyouu> oo
[02:14] <lasthopesinyouu> thanks
[02:14] <NeuroFryk> yw
[02:14] <lasthopesinyouu> and around the windows and in the idle windows i see the gears or whatever it's called
[02:14] <gilboman> stupid question of the day install frostwire
[02:14] <lasthopesinyouu> there's a silver mess behind it
[02:14] <lasthopesinyouu> how do i turn that completely off
[02:15] <NeuroFryk> not sure about that one; the way I set compiz up was to turn everything off at first then try one thing at a time and get it the way I liked it
[02:15] <donnybrasco> durt: I think I'm just going to try II or KK, like you suggested - unfortunately haven't had that much time to fool around on the computers lately
[02:15] <donnybrasco> durt: thank you so much for your help, though
[02:16] <durt> donnybrasco, sorry I couldn't help more.
[02:16] <pacheco> hi is there any program for my ipod
[02:16] <pacheco> ?
[02:16] <durt> !ipod
[02:16] <NeuroFryk> does anyone have verizon DSL and have a server running (FTP or otherwise)
[02:17] <gilboman> and why do i get a error message that says i need to fork
[02:17] <NeuroFryk> got port forwarding setup on my router but for some reason no one can connect to me
[02:18] <crdlb> NeuroFryk: you're using an alternate port that isn't blocked by the ISP?
[02:19] <NeuroFryk> I believe I tried specifying a different port ;  that could be the problem though ; I should just keep experimenting I guess ;)
[02:19] <stevex> Yeh, the iso image I burned is fine, it has to be my Hard drive not having enough space
[02:19] <bazhang> stevex, how much space?
[02:20] <abhilashm86> i'm not able to insatll, update or anything in ubuntu 9.04, this is the error--The repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and ensure the repository address in the preferences is correct.
[02:20] <gilboman> hi everybody
[02:20] <bazhang> stevex, you could try the 9mb minimal installer and build from there
[02:20] <abhilashm86> please help
[02:20] <stevex> bazhang, 4 gigs
[02:20] <phat> durt: I get to recovery mode commandline. I hit startx and it hangs with a window telling me "user switcher has quit unexpectedly".
[02:21] <bazhang> abhilashm86, could you paste.ubuntu.com the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:22] <durt> phat, that might not be related
[02:23] <stevex> bazhang, where is the 9mb minimal installer located of server?
[02:23] <TehSnarf> I'm having trouble setting up abcde and ivman, would this be the correct channel to ask for help about these?
[02:23] <bazhang> stevex, /msg ubottu minimal for more info
[02:23] <phat> durt: I didn't think it was.
[02:24] <phat> durt: there's another error window behind that one that I can't read.
[02:24] <gilboman> test
[02:24] <abhilashm86> bazhang: i pasted the contents......http://pastebin.ca/1579819
[02:24] <durt> phat, do you know how to edit /boot/grub.lst ?
[02:25] <crdlb> NeuroFryk: I ask because verizon blocks a bunch of ports, probably including port 21
[02:25] <yarp> hey guys, trying to install Jaunty on my mac pro, but its a pain and depending which disk you boot from, the grub device changes, so after installing and booting from the device, grub couldn't find itself and failed. I know how to fix it but grub won't let me tab-complete partitions so there is no way to check I have it right :P
[02:25] <phat> Durt: I can figure it out.
[02:25] <NeuroFryk> Ya, thanks to your mentioning that I just did a search on verizon blocked ports.. that must be my problem
[02:25] <yarp> so, does anyone know how to make it so tab complete works in grub? :)
[02:26] <abhilashm86> i pasted the contents......http://pastebin.ca/1579819, not able to update anything or install in ubuntu 9.04...
[02:26] <yarp> I'm booting off a live-cd
[02:27] <bazhang> abhilashm86, is your internet connection functioning on the install? you may wish to try and switch mirrors to test, or try later with the in. mirrors
[02:28] <abhilashm86> bazhang: i'm able to browse net and others irssi, hoaw to switch mirror? n test?
[02:28] <durt> phat, then remove the splash option and add no quiet, to the normal boot selection.
[02:29] <bazhang> abhilashm86, open up software sources under system-->administration
[02:29] <abhilashm86> yes i opened, next
[02:29] <phat> durt: ah yes, I remember that through the fog of my failing memory. Thanks.
[02:30] <lluad> Is there an appropriate forum for packaging questions? I'm looking for best practices on dh_prep vs dh_clean for rules files that need to work back to Hardy.
[02:30] <abhilashm86> bazhang: what i need to do in that?
[02:31] <bazhang> abhilashm86, check the drop down box that says download from 'server from india' and select a different one
[02:31] <bazhang> !packaging | lluad
[02:31] <kikbguy> My flash videos are extremely laggy.  I was told to download the driver for my video card (a VIA s3 unichrome 400 series video card), which I did.  After I ran the decompressed install.sh file and restarted my computer nothing changed.  The framerate on my computer is still 500 fps as opposed to the 2000 that it should be after installing the driver.  Anyone know what I did wrong or how to make flash run smoothly?
[02:31] <abhilashm86> bazhang:i gave test servers, i'l wait and see........
[02:32] <lluad> Thanks, bazhang. It's something that's not (or not obviously) covered there, so I'm looking for somewhere to ask about it.
[02:33] <kikbguy> BTW, I'm running ubuntu 9.04 on a 5 year old hp pavillion a465w desktop pc
[02:33] <bazhang> lluad, let me ask around
[02:33] <TehSnarf> where can I find config file information for the abcde program?
[02:34] <se7vn> kikbguy right click on the panel with the clock, and add CPU Level and make sure it's all the way up, helped for me
[02:34] <bazhang> TehSnarf, what is abcde
[02:34] <TehSnarf> "A better CD Encoder"
[02:34] <dragon> !info abcde
[02:35] <lluad> TehSnarf: : "man abcde" will probably tell you that.
[02:35] <dgoss_> ANyone think of a reason GDB wouldn't be loading share libs?
[02:35] <dgoss_> http://pastebin.com/m5c3ce0a5
[02:35] <stevex> 225 Mhz to low for 9.04 server?
[02:36] <dgoss_> stevex, not without X. ;D
[02:36] <dragon> !requirements | stevex
[02:36] <bazhang> stevex, that would be fine
[02:36] <stevex> Whats Xubuntu?
[02:36] <abhilashm86> bazhang: it showed japan server, but when i close E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:36] <abhilashm86> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[02:37] <abhilashm86> how to unlock?
[02:37] <bazhang> stevex, a tiny bit less resource hungry alternative to gnome based ubuntu, using xfce4 instead
[02:37] <dragon> abhilashm86: use sudo
[02:37] <dgoss_> There's no console-only Ubuntu?
[02:37] <bazhang> abhilashm86, you have more than one package manager open
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> dgoss_:  teres the server editions, and JEOS.
[02:37] <kikbguy> se7vn, when I try to add the the cpu frequency scaling monitor to my panel the computer says "error, cpu frequency modification is not supported on this machine"
[02:37] <stevex> I see, see what I'm trying to do is make my old Compaq into a nice little file server
[02:37] <dragon> abhilashm86: and make sure no other package manager (synaptic) is running simultaneously
[02:37] <gilboman> how do you fork?
[02:38] <TehSnarf> Well, crap.. no wonder.. I had WAVEOUTPUTDIR, instead of WAVOUTPUTDIR
[02:38] <dragon> stevex: it's worth a try :)
[02:38] <TehSnarf> that was in the man file.. boy, that's embarrasing... Thanks :/
[02:38] <jetrii> Is there a workaround to the copy paste problem in some gnome applications? Copying text from an application then closing it causes the clipboard to be cleared.
[02:38] <bazhang> gilboman, how does this relate to ubuntu
[02:38] <almostAg33k> im having issues using brasero to burn audio cds
[02:38] <abhilashm86> yes there is no other package manager oppen......
[02:38] <lluad> I'm betting it'll work, if you have enough RAM, stevex.
[02:38] <gilboman> The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork!
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> jetrii:  use the gclipper clipborad keeper tool. is handy.
[02:38] <dragon> abhilashm86: are you running it as root?
[02:38] <dragon> !who | abhilashm86
[02:38] <jetrii> Dr_Willis: I will give that a shot. Thank you.
[02:39] <stevex> What server would you suggest with only 225 Mhz processor?
[02:39] <bazhang> almostAg33k, does gnomebaker have similar issues
[02:39] <TehSnarf> Thanks all~
[02:39] <lluad> How much RAM do you have, stevex? That might be more of a limit than CPU speed.
[02:39] <abhilashm86> dryes is there a command to unlock, it din't update, so i pressed ctrl-z......
[02:40] <stevex> RAM is fine, know that for a fact
[02:40] <abhilashm86> dragon: is there a command to unlock, it din't update, so i pressed ctrl-z......
[02:40] <almostAg33k> whats gnomebaker
[02:40] <fccf> !info gnomebaker
[02:40] <bazhang> almostAg33k, an alternative burning app
[02:40] <abhilashm86>  ubottu:ok fine
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> !menu
[02:40] <dragon> abhilashm86: Ctrl+z sends it in the background. Next time use Ctrl+C, only in case of an emergency. For now, type `fg` in the same shell window.
[02:41] <stevex> If I'd install Xubuntu on my older system, could I still make that into a file server somehow?
[02:41] <MrKeuner> hello, is duplex printing possible on HP laserjet 4250 in Ubuntu?
[02:41] <lluad> If you install one of the server versions that's even lighter weight than Xubuntu, stevex.
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> stevex:  the desktop disrtos can work as fileservers yes.. Just install the services you want.
[02:41] <musikgoat> stevex: any desktop environment wouldn't affect your ability to make a machine a file server
[02:41] <musikgoat> but it could burden it
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> stevex:  just disable the X/gui/gdm/whatever login.. so theres no X starting up. but its there if you need it.
[02:42] <stevex> Ok, I think I'm going to go that route, wish me luck :)
[02:42] <fccf> MrKeuner: probably, the ppd printer driver file determines capabilities and cups tells it to do duplex
[02:42] <stevex> Xubuntu here I come :)
[02:43] <kikbguy> So to recap, flash is very laggy, I have a via s3 unichrome video card that is uber complicated to install properly, and my computer does not allow the cpu scaling monitor to be used. I am running ubuntu 9.04 on a 5 year old hp desktop pavillion pc.  Does anyone know how to get flash working or if there is some sort of binary driver for s3 unichrome video cards?
[02:43] <dragon> stevex: xubuntu would be too much for that machine. Go for ubuntu-server.
[02:43] <dragon> !ubuntu-server | stevex
[02:44] <dgoss_> Anyone know why gdb/linux/ubuntu(not sure which) would transform an strcpy into memcpy?
[02:44] <wahez> kikbguy: I had problems with an unichrome card too. I'd recommend buying an old nvidia card or something
[02:44] <Elone> is there a shortcut to restart gnome like KDE?
[02:44] <wahez> kikbguy: it
[02:44] <dragon> Elone: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:44] <stevex> Would you guys recommend the LTS version or the regular version of server?
[02:44] <musikgoat> !dontzap | Elone
[02:44] <wahez> kikbguy: it's not about the speed of the card, you just need a decently supported one
[02:44] <dgoss_> Unichrome cards are hell on Linux.
[02:44] <phat> durt: well, I'm not sure what I was looking for, but I got an error when it called nvidia, and vbox
[02:44] <MrKeuner> fccf, where can I find the ppd file? in CUPS?
[02:44] <dgoss_> Especially if they have TV-Out
[02:44] <dragon> stevex: LTS came out 1.5 year ago. I think current is better
[02:44] <wahez> stevex: for a server in your home, I'd recommend a regular version
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> stevex:   if you are going to do 'server' time to learn the command line well. :)  use whatever version you want.
[02:45] <gilboman> any one know how to get my graphix card work to full potential
[02:45] <Elone> thanks
[02:45] <dragon> !lts | stevex
[02:45] <lluad> Go for the regular version, stevex. The LTS is mostly for companies who don't want to be upgrading every year or two.
[02:45] <kikbguy> wahez, thanks, that's a good suggestion.  I'll look in to that.
[02:46] <bazhang> lluad, #ubuntu-motu would likely be an appropriate channel for your query
[02:46] <lluad> Thanks, bzahang, I'll head over there.
[02:46] <almostAg33k> sooo how do i install gnomebaker?
[02:46] <user_g> hi, anyone on a dual boot vista/buntu machine?
[02:46] <stevex> See this is my problem, ubuntu-server is giving me install errors on my old machine, so I need something lighter that a 224 Mhz processor can handle, but also something I can use as a file server
[02:47] <user_g> using Ksplice and would like to remove some of the old kernels on boot screen
[02:47] <durt> phat, so why does it reset?
[02:47] <elpiratedechron> hello I was wondering if theres an option to have ubuntu show side and bottom window borders of decorated windows show whem maximized
[02:47] <bazhang> almostAg33k, sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[02:47] <elpiratedechron> by default it seems to remove them from sides/bottom and just extend the actual window to fit
[02:47] <dragon> stevex: What was the error? ubuntu-server is better if you want a server, especially on an antique box.
[02:47] <gilboman> there is allways tomorrow
[02:47] <elpiratedechron> they come back fine when restored.. I just want them there when maximized for astetic reasons
[02:48] <dragon> !enter | elpiratedechron
[02:48] <elpiratedechron> I cannot seem to find an option for this in compiz or emerald was wondering if anyone knows of a way
[02:49] <phat> durt: I do not know. Hmm... I'm going to have to deal with my xorg, or upgrade my video, I suspect.
[02:49] <soreau> elpiratedechron: Does it work if you run 'metacity --replace'?
[02:49] <user_g> anyone using ksplice?
[02:49] <ismael_> helo
[02:49] <durt> phat, well good luck
[02:49] <ismael_> elpme ubuntu
[02:49] <soreau> elpiratedechron: Also, I thought you said you were using debian
[02:50] <phat> durt: thanks.
[02:50] <elpiratedechron> I don't want to use metacity for a window management. and it didn't fix it when using gtk-windows.... which in your language != compiz
[02:50] <elpiratedechron> if you have nothing useful to say to me and just wanna show off your e-peen you can kindly keep it to yourself :)
[02:50] <dragon> elpiratedechron: what do you mean by "your language"?
[02:50] <dragon> !language | elpiratedechron
[02:51] <user_g> grub anyone?
[02:51] <dragon> !anyone | user_g
[02:51] <elpiratedechron> he tired to help me in #compiz and when what he suggested wasn't what I wanted he got an attitude like I wasn't trying it
[02:52] <soreau> elpiratedechron: This is why you don't get support because you're making false reports and you are not willing to try anything
[02:52] <user_g> ubottu: how to remove kernel(s) from list since using ksplice (kernels listed on boot screen)
[02:52] <elpiratedechron> I TIRED IT
[02:52] <elpiratedechron> it doesn't fix it
[02:52] <elpiratedechron> accept it
[02:52] <FloodBot2> elpiratedechron: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:52] <soreau> elpiratedechron: It's not helping that you're asking a question about your broken debian system in #ubuntu
[02:53] <elpiratedechron> actaully I'm using ubuntu
[02:53] <elpiratedechron> .....
[02:53] <soreau> elpiratedechron: So next time think before you speak
[02:53] <ChogyDan> user_g: you should remove the kernels using apt
[02:53] <elpiratedechron> which last I checked was based on debain
[02:53] <user_g> but how? ChogyDan
[02:53] <bazhang> elpiratedechron, please be civil
[02:53] <ChogyDan> user_g: use synaptic, and look for linux-image
[02:53] <user_g> ChogyDan don't mind a few listed but the last 3 kernels I don't mind just when they start do add up
[02:54] <ChogyDan> user_g: obviously, make sure not to remove linux-generic or your latest kernels
[02:54] <user_g> ChogyDan I think they all say generic
[02:54] <user_g> ChogyDan: btw is there a limit to how many kernels are listed?
[02:55] <ChogyDan> user_g: yes, thats fine, but don't remove the exactly name package: linux-generic
[02:55] <Elone> anyone know if i can change /tmp to a syn. link to a ntfs dir?
[02:56] <user_g> ChogyDan: ok. Is there a limit to how many kernels are listed on the boot screen? Or, are there 10, 20 or more?
[02:56] <Biovore> Elone: I think thats a bad idea
[02:56] <leaf-sheep> user_g: Unlimited. ;3
[02:56] <brous-ree> Elone -> why would you want to ever do that?
[02:57] <Elone> BiosElement: coz my root partition is low in space
[02:57] <Biovore> Elone: I think temp needs to be a filesystem that support the linux security model stuff.
[02:57] <user_g> leaf-sheep: 3? Or does grub get clogged or something? I don't mind a few but too many might confuse some folks when I give it away
[02:57] <Biovore> ntfs dosn't do this.
[02:57] <Elone> BiosElement: i see
[02:58] <user_g> leaf-sheep? ChogyDan?
[02:58] <ChogyDan> user_g: whats up?
[02:58] <leaf-sheep> user_g: Folks? Why are you using ksplice? I'm sure the folks you give away won't mind rebooting. It won't get clogged. You can remove the kernels if you want. It's really small in filesize and does not cause confusions.
[02:58] <user_g> <-- so far get it, i think. use synaptic
[02:59] <wahez> Elone: How about removing packages you don't need? I use dpigs to find big packages that I don't need.
[02:59] <rocky_> wow... http://fatpita.net/?i=1036
[02:59] <bazhang> rocky_, this is not #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:00] <user_g> I was thinking of removing ksplice; it sounds like a good idea, but kind of want some security for the user who'll be using the machine
[03:00] <Elone> wahez: let me try
[03:01] <se7vn> wahez:  is that in the debian-goodies package?
[03:01] <dragon> Elone: don't try that, please.
[03:01] <leaf-sheep> user_g: With Karmic coming up, there are new kernels and you're going to include them in near future. The latest kernel will be used by default and such. If something breaks, you can always resort back to old kernel at boot.
[03:01] <user_g> ChogyDan and leaf-sheep: was wondering if I needed to do anything to grub so I won't get support calls --- both your idea on this: remove Ksplice and leave the machine as is? or not?
[03:02] <ChogyDan> user_g: sorry, I don't know Ksplice
[03:02] <elpiratedechron> does anybody have an actual solution to make the window borders on the sides and bottom of windows show when maximized? I should note this is not the same issue where decorations disappear entirely, or is it really any sort of issue this is solely an aesthetic wish. I'm using emerald 0.7.2 theme manager, compiz 0.8.2, under ubuntu 9.04. Also I've tried using gtk-window-decorator so I don't believe it's an emerald issue
[03:02] <wahez> se7vn: yes I think it is
[03:02] <leaf-sheep> I'll admit that I never used Ksplice myself so I can't be a fair call for you to make an informed decision.
[03:03] <soreau> elpiratedechron: It's a problem with your distro, debian
[03:03] <soreau> elpiratedechron: You should probably ask there, in #debian
[03:03] <user_g> ChogyDan rebootless updates? http://www.ksplice.com/uptrack     ---i think that's the url
[03:03] <leaf-sheep> user_g: Servers or machine? Laptop?  If it's not server, then there are no point in having ksplice unless you're going for longest uptime and etc cetera.
[03:03] <bazhang> !emerald | elpiratedechron
[03:04] <elpiratedechron> ubottu thank you for actually saying something helpful
[03:04] <Elone> dragon: huh?
[03:04] <elpiratedechron> it's nice to know people in here actually have something useful to say
[03:04] <user_g> leaf-sheep? your input? remove kplice and tell them about synaptic update manager? I want no support calls, cuz after the machine leaves here they'll mostly be on their own
[03:04] <ChogyDan> user_g: cool offtopic, I used to know a linux guy in college that wanted to create such software.  wonder if that is him...
[03:04] <user_g> laptop
[03:04] <bazhang> elpiratedechron, ubottu is a bot.
[03:04] <leaf-sheep> !emerald | elpiratedechron
[03:04] <elpiratedechron> but like i said I tried a differnt window decorator
[03:04] <elpiratedechron> damn
[03:04] <rocky_> bazhang, sorry, I felt like doing an amsg, and as far as I know, there is not a way to exclude channels
[03:04] <leaf-sheep> ubottu? :(
[03:04] <elpiratedechron> that exlpains why ubottu missed it
[03:05] <bazhang> rocky_, please dont do it again, thanks
[03:05] <user_g> ChogyDan: perhaps it's him
[03:05] <rocky_> o.O
[03:05] <rocky_> w/e
[03:06] <user_g> leaf-sheep and ChogyDan Thanks so much for your help. Much appreciated
[03:06] <se7vn> Ahh, Netsplit again?
[03:06] <Cream> !netsplit
[03:06] <cciRRus> i can't find the Deskbar panel in jaunty... any ideas??
[03:07] <bobertdos> leaf-sheep: You'd be surprised how much work it takes to keep him running, heh
[03:07] <dragon> se7vn: yeah, looks like it
[03:07] <user_g> anyone else flooded with "quits"?
[03:07] <dg1> hey i have an installation that i installed with wubi inside windows, I decided I liked ubuntu so I made its own partition now, how do i get my stuff off the wubi install?
[03:07] <Shidash> So I am looking for any possible suggestions. I am getting quite desperate. Not having sound is a pretty major issue for me.
[03:08] <brez> dg1: are u referring to the boot selection menu
[03:08] <XDevHald> Shidash: Is this with Pulseaudio?
[03:08] <almostAg33k> so i just tryd to burn a cd with gnomebaker. it converted the tracks attempted to burn and the a window poped up and said faild
[03:08] <wahez> cciRRus: you need to install deskbar-applet (or a similar name) in synaptic
[03:08] <se7vn> Shiidash: What system you running?
[03:08] <user_g> ChogyDan? leaf-sheep still here?
[03:08] <Shidash> XDevHald: ALSA or Pulseaudio, I can't tell
[03:08] <bazhang> almostAg33k, mp3 cd?
[03:08] <Shidash> se7n: 9.04
[03:08] <cciRRus> previously the applet is installed by default, right?
[03:08] <bobertdos> dg1: As Wubi is contained within your Windows partition, it is simply a matter of mounting your Windows partition to Ubuntu.
[03:08] <almostAg33k> yea
[03:09] <dg1> some guy told me to do something and it made this file "my-packeges"
[03:09] <se7vn> Shidash: On a Laptop?
[03:09] <XDevHald> Have you removed both including the dependencies that go with them and them reboot and re-install them back?
[03:09] <Shidash> se7vm" Yes
[03:09] <wahez> So Shidash: you did 'sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel'. Did you run that alsa info script again after that?
[03:09] <Shidash> hm... let me try that
[03:09] <ChogyDan> user_g: sorta, but I can't really help with ksplice.
[03:10] <dg1> do i mount "root.disk"
[03:10] <bazhang> almostAg33k, all the necessary codecs installed?
[03:10] <almostAg33k> yes im trying to burn mp3's
[03:10] <user_g> ChogyDan noprobs. but thanks so much for your input
[03:10] <Elone> @@
[03:10] <XDevHald> Shidash: Try that first and let us know back on this channel
[03:10] <Elone> how nice XCDF
[03:10] <leaf-sheep> user_g: Ya.
[03:10] <user_g> leaf-sheep, if you're still here, thanks
[03:10] <almostAg33k> im not sure.
[03:10] <user_g> leaf-sheep! one more think
[03:11] <user_g> <--- I'll remove ksplice
[03:11] <leaf-sheep> user_g: Oh you said something about "flood with quits" That's called netsplit.
[03:11] <dg1> "my-packages" file idk
[03:11] <leaf-sheep> !netsplit | user_g
[03:11] <Shidash> Shoot, I forget the command for the alsa information script, what is it?
[03:11] <user_g> command netsplit with !?
[03:11] <XDevHald> wahez: Do you have the alsa command script for Shidash?
[03:11] <leaf-sheep> user_g: No. That's a trigger for me to call ubottu to give you more information on netsplit. :)
[03:12] <user_g> :)
[03:12] <dg1> brez? bobertdos?
[03:12] <wahez> Shidash XDevHald : sorry guys I'm at work and can't login to my home machine at the moment
[03:12] <almostAg33k> what codecs and where do i get them?
[03:13] <XDevHald> No problem wahez. I'll pull it up for him
[03:13] <wahez> Shidash: maybe this:http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-driver.git;a=blob_plain;f=utils/alsa-info.sh
[03:13] <lenswipe> XDevHald, Ambulance or a buscuit?
[03:13] <user_g> leaf-sheep, another thing. These are ppl who get Windows PCs easily infected with malware, so, hoping for them to use ubuntu
[03:13] <XDevHald> lol
[03:13] <XDevHald> What?
[03:13] <lenswipe> ?
[03:13] <lenswipe> XDevHald, Ambulance or a buscuit?
[03:13] <XDevHald> ummm....
[03:13] <XDevHald> Is this a trick question?
[03:13] <lenswipe> no
[03:14] <bazhang> lenswipe, ??
[03:14] <XDevHald> ok... Buscuit
[03:14] <lenswipe> bazhang, its a simple question
[03:14] <XDevHald> Biscuit*
[03:14] <lenswipe> XDevHald, thanks
[03:14] <XDevHald> Why?
[03:14] <leaf-sheep> user_g: Ask the right person.  He'll tell you *any* linux distro are the best choice. :)
[03:14] <bazhang> lenswipe, was there something ubuntu support related you wished to say?
[03:14] <esaym153> howdy, does the virtualbox in the repos the version with the working usb ports?
[03:14] <user_g> leaf-sheep, agree with me? ppl like them should use Win offline a learn to use nix in combo for desktop use anyway
[03:14] <XDevHald> I didn't understand that question...
[03:15] <IdleOne> XDevHald: there was nothing to understand
[03:15] <esaym153> * howdy, is the virtualbox in the repos the version with the working usb ports?
[03:15] <XDevHald> Ok.
[03:15] <bazhang> XDevHald, ignore him
[03:15] <lenswipe> bazhang, not at all, just thought id ask Ambulance or a buscuit, whats your preference btw
[03:15] <Ashhh> lenswipe: woots
[03:15] <Shidash> Hm... the command isn't alsa-info
[03:15] <bazhang> lenswipe, please take chat elsewhere
[03:15] <leaf-sheep> esaym153: No. See VirtualBox website to get the one with USB.
[03:15] <Ashhh> lol
[03:15] <IdleOne> !ot > lenswipe
[03:15] <bastid_raZor> esaym153: no, you would need to get it from the website
[03:15] <user_g> alright, leaf-sheep thanks a lot for your helpful info as well. later.
[03:15] <wzssyqa> esaym153: no,it is ose edition
[03:15] <XDevHald> What a leech
[03:16] <esaym153> THANK YOU
[03:16] <lenswipe> bazhang, dont you like buscuits? :'(
[03:16]  * XDevHald gets back to helping Shidash
[03:16] <foundry87> For some reason my webcam isn't working, I remember it working a long time ago but now it just won't. Can someone help me figure this out?
[03:16] <user_g> goblinx is great, but some how after a while flash seems to mess the system so much so for a reboot :`(
[03:16] <wahez> Shidash: Have you tried this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[03:17] <wzssyqa> foundry87: is it break?
[03:17] <wahez> Shidash: it also says where you can get the alsa script
[03:17] <user_g> goblinx with no flash hasn't rebooted in a month and works darn great!
[03:17] <Shidash> wahez: Yes, I lost that link. Thanks
[03:17] <user_g> <-- perhaps hardware issue
[03:17] <foundry87> wzssyqa: No I don't believe it's broken, I haven't really touched it in months
[03:17] <user_g> !thanks leaf-sheep
[03:17] <leaf-sheep> user_g: Np.
[03:17] <pete_> does using a upnp server like ushare make my machine at risk??
[03:18] <almostAg33k> an one know how to run diablo 2?
[03:18] <user_g> have a good one, bye.
[03:18] <cciRRus> any pidgin users here?
[03:18] <dg1> yeah
[03:18] <leaf-sheep> user_g: I think you want a !cookie for me.
[03:18] <bazhang> almostAg33k, via wine
[03:18] <se7vn> Shidash: asoundconf     ?
[03:18] <bazhang> check the appdb almostAg33k
[03:18] <bazhang> !appdb | almostAg33k
[03:18] <wzssyqa> foundry87: maybe you should try it under another os
[03:18] <XDevHald> Shidash: What Architecture do you run? I.E: Amd64 etc
[03:18] <foundry87> wzssyqua: I don't have any other OS's
[03:18] <cciRRus> how do i make my pidgin display contacts w/o groups (e.g. friends, workers)   Just online and offline
[03:19] <foundry87> cciRRus: Ask #pidgin
[03:19] <pete_> does using a upnp server like ushare make my machine at risk??
[03:19] <cciRRus> ok
[03:19] <almostAg33k> i figured out gnomebaker
[03:19] <almostAg33k> TY!!
[03:19] <wzssyqa> foundry87: are you using a laptop?
[03:19] <foundry87> wzssyqa: No I'm using a desktop
[03:19] <cciRRus> pete: no
[03:20] <Shidash> XDevHald: Not sure
[03:20] <almostAg33k> im actully burning a disc now. ill let you know if it werks
[03:20] <pete_> cciRRus, ok, good. i got all my ports closed etc.
[03:20] <XDevHald> Shidash: Goto System > System Monitor and select the "System" tab
[03:20] <cciRRus> upnp will open ports w/o your approval
[03:20] <stevex> Could you make Xubunutu into a file server?
[03:20] <wzssyqa> foundry87: does it have a power button?
[03:20] <cciRRus> so if you let malware into your system, it could get access via upnp
[03:20] <XDevHald> This is on your Gnome menu above or below, however you have it setup.
[03:21] <bastid_raZor> stevex: install apache2?
[03:21] <pete_> cciRRus, great.
[03:21] <XDevHald> Shidash: It will say "Processor"
[03:21] <dg1> anyone play tribes 2
[03:21] <pete_> cciRRus, well luckily linux should have little malware, and i only install programs from the repo's
[03:21] <Shidash> My updated alsa script: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=dcc5ef695a561fe8bd9f5ba9290fc4abefaf376d
[03:22] <foundry87> wzssyqa: When I plug the webcam into the computer a blue light on it turns on for a few seconds then turns off. I'm pretty sure it's always been this way.
[03:22] <pete_> cciRRus, and watching videos i download on the laptop through the xbox360 on my HDTV is priceless
[03:22] <cciRRus> pete_:  they can gain access to your pc via flash or java vulnerabilities
[03:22] <stevex> apache2 is I'm assuming file server software?
[03:22] <pete_> cciRRus, great.........
[03:22] <BJJblue> stevex:  apache is a web server
[03:23] <XDevHald> Shidash: This is 9.04...
[03:23] <XDevHald> Not 9.10
[03:23] <stevex> Anyone ever use Xubuntu and have any comments?
[03:23] <wzssyqa> foundry87: maybe,you should try it under other os of friends
[03:23] <Shidash> XDevHald- That is what I thought I said
[03:23] <BJJblue> stevex:  what do you want to know about it?
[03:23] <pete_> stevex, i'm on it, its faster than gnome and more useable in my opinion
[03:23] <BJJblue> it's basically the same thing... just has a different desktop environment
[03:23] <XDevHald> No problem.
[03:23] <foundry87> wzssyqa: Is there no other way to test it..?
[03:24] <se7vn> Shidash:  you may want to take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1073090
[03:24] <wzssyqa> foundry87: do you have a cheese installed?
[03:24] <afallenhope> nvm just use GEE-Xbox
[03:24] <foundry87> wzssyqa: No
[03:24] <stevex> Yeh, I have an old compaq presario with a 225 Mhz processor, just trying to install something light that will run smooth
[03:24] <XDevHald> Shidash: Did you ever find out what processor you're running?
[03:24] <pete_> stevex, then use fluxbox, for a system that sow
[03:24] <wzssyqa> foundry87: maybe,you should install it
[03:24] <pete_> slow*
[03:24] <XDevHald> I assume it's an Intel correct?
[03:24] <BJJblue> stevex:  xubuntu is probably okay, but you could go lighter if you wwanted
[03:25] <Shidash> XDevHald- The processor is an Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU L9400 @1.86GHz
[03:25] <pete_> afallenhope, isn't gee-xbox just ushare, thats what im using right now
[03:25] <BJJblue> stevex:  there's also crunchbang which is ubuntu based
[03:25] <se7vn> He's running AMD with HD Sound
[03:25] <pete_> Shidash, same as me is it an Hp ?
[03:25] <XDevHald> Shidash: Thanks, just a sec
[03:25] <BJJblue> but not an official distro
[03:25] <stevex> What's the lightest distro I could go, but still be nice for me to use?
[03:25] <pete_> stevex, use ubuntu with fluxbox
[03:25] <pete_> stevex, but honestly, on that machine, any gui is going to lag
[03:25] <BJJblue> stevex:  try xubuntu and see how that works.  If you want lighter, fluxbox
[03:25] <freenose> Is the ubuntu mini.iso desktop or server orientated?
[03:25] <pete_> how much ram, 32mb?
[03:25] <Shidash> pete_: It is a Lenovo Thinkpad
[03:26] <pete_> Shidash, oh, dif machine same processor, good one though
[03:26] <XDevHald> Shidash: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[03:26] <afallenhope> pete_, I didn't mean to send it on this server
[03:26] <afallenhope> lol.
[03:26] <Shidash> se7n- The audio doesn't work on headphones either
[03:26] <pete_> afallenhope, im just curious, since i just set up ushare and im watching a movie right now and its working great
[03:26] <pete_> how is that other one different
[03:26] <afallenhope> pete_, I use mplayer for that
[03:26] <afallenhope> mplayer ce
[03:27] <se7vn> o
[03:27] <pete_> afallenhope, to stream to xbox you use mplayer?
[03:27] <afallenhope> pete_, it's actually to my Wii and I ftp
[03:27] <stevex> If I went ahead and installed Fluxbox, could I still setup that old computer as a file server?
[03:28] <BJJblue> stevex:  yes
[03:28] <pete_> afallenhope, oh, ok... thats cool
[03:28] <stevex> BJJblue, same thing with Xubuntu correct?
[03:28] <BJJblue> stevex:  they're all the same
[03:28] <stevex> True, both just lighter on the resource side
[03:28] <BJJblue> stevex:  they just have different window managers
[03:28] <pete_> stevex, linux is much more flexible than ur used to probably
[03:28] <BJJblue> but the backend is identical
[03:29] <stevex> God I have to get away from this Windows crap
[03:29] <BJJblue> stevex:  think of desktop environments as 'themes' of sorts, except that it also handles how the windows are drawn and handled
[03:29] <BJJblue> and stuff like that
[03:29] <pete_> stevex, lol i hear ya
[03:29] <BJJblue> stevex:  you'll get there =)
[03:29] <stevex> Anyone recommend a good website and or book to learn essential commands?
[03:29] <MenZa> !cli | stevex
[03:29] <pete_> I get probably 2x as much speed and battery life out of this laptop on xubuntu than windows vista
[03:30] <BJJblue> stevex:  it's kind of hard to just learn commands.  YOu'll learn them by using them, but there should be a few websites with basic commands
[03:30] <pete_> stevex, many are similar to windows commands if you are fimiliar
[03:30] <pete_> such cd etc.
[03:30] <XDevHald> Shidash: I see you have alsa-base 1.0.18rc3 - Did you see that there is a full development for 1.0.18.dfsg-1ubuntu8 ?
[03:31] <dios_mio> what does this mean in ps? --> [aplay] <defunct>
[03:31] <BJJblue> stevex:  the reason i say that is because a lot of commands arise from the software installed on the system rather than the system itself.
[03:31] <foundry87> wzssyqa: I just tested it on another computer running Ubuntu and it works. In gstreamer-properties under the Video tab I can't select the device because the dropdown box is faded out. I was able to change it on the other computer though and that's what made it work.
[03:31] <user_g> leaf-sheep
[03:31] <almostAg33k> sweet the cd i burned with gnomebaker works
[03:31] <stevex> K guys, currently downloading Xubuntu, wish me luck :)
[03:31] <bazhang> almostAg33k, nicely done
[03:31] <BJJblue> stevex:  are you currently on an ubuntu machine?
[03:31] <BJJblue> because you can try out the xubuntu interface without reinstalling
[03:31] <XDevHald> Shidash: Also make sure you have alsa-utils 1.0.18-1ubuntu11
[03:31] <stevex> BJJblue, nah, my main machine is Vista :(
[03:32] <user_g> stevex make sure to check the sha1sum or md5sums or both
[03:32] <BJJblue> ah okay
[03:32] <pete_> stevex, you can switch between any of them at the login screen under sessions.
[03:32] <pete_> gnome, kde, xfce, fluxbox
[03:32] <user_g> where's leaf-sheep?
[03:32] <stevex> Ok, I will check both, thanks for the tip
[03:32] <cwillu> user_g, checking one is sufficient
[03:32] <cwillu> stevex, ^^^
[03:32] <stevex> I'm going to check md5sums
[03:32] <user_g> prefer sha1 though
[03:32] <Shidash> XDevHald- I am working on upgrading ALSA. How would I check to see if I have alsa-utils 1.0.18-1ubuntu11
[03:33] <user_g> md5sum *.iso
[03:33] <cwillu> ... either is sufficient if you're not looking at malicious tampering
[03:33] <XDevHald> Shidash: Type in synaptic: alsa
[03:33] <cwillu> and md5sum is significantly faster
[03:33] <pete_> Shidash, sudo apt-cache search alsa-utils 1.0.18-1ubuntu11
[03:33] <XDevHald> aye
[03:33] <user_g> isn't md5sum weak/broken?
[03:33] <XDevHald> that too if you don't have synaptic up
[03:33] <cwillu> user_g, "... either is sufficient if you're not looking at malicious tampering"
[03:33] <stevex> Now after I check md5sum, and it comes back there is something wrong, redownload?
[03:33] <pete_> XDevHald, i like ur idea actually
[03:33] <BJJblue> user_g:  mathematically, i think sha is broken, but not to the point of being threatening in the field
[03:34] <BJJblue> i don't think md5 is
[03:34] <user_g> sorry cwillu, got it
[03:34] <cwillu> user_g, you're not gonna break md5 by accident
[03:34] <BJJblue> but i may be wrong
[03:34] <XDevHald> pete_ like wise if synaptic is not up :-)
[03:34] <Shidash> XDevHald- I typed in sudo apt-get -y install linux-headers-`uname -r` as it said to in the tutorial and I got the message that E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-uname -r
[03:34] <user_g> :)
[03:34] <stevex> I can't wait to try Linux!!!!
[03:34] <pete_> Shidash, you need to know the package name..
[03:34] <cwillu> BJJblue, md5 has real collisions, sha1 has collisions on long'ish subsets of the full application
[03:34] <stevex> Ha, I'm actually excited it's weird
[03:34] <XDevHald> Agreed, what pete_ said Shidash
[03:34] <BJJblue> aah okay - thanks for the clarification
[03:34] <foundry87> I'm trying to select a device for my webcam in gstreamer-properties but it's not letting me, can someone help?
[03:34] <BJJblue> good luck stevex!
[03:35] <XDevHald> stevex: You waiting for your CD?
[03:35] <cwillu> BJJblue, something out of the sha2 series is recommended as an interim solution until the new hash function competition is completed in two (?) years
[03:35] <stevex> Yeh, will let you guys know once I start the installation process, btw, for burning, the program ImgBurn = success!
[03:35] <cwillu> (sha2 is the same construction as sha1, but with more bits and more iterations)
[03:35] <cwillu> sha256sum, for instance
[03:35] <XDevHald> stevex: Nevermind, great to see you're burning it.
[03:36] <Shidash> pete_: sudo apt-cache search alsa-utils 1.0.18-1ubuntu11
[03:36] <pete_> yea
[03:36] <Shidash> pete_: Returns nothing
[03:36] <BJJblue> stevex:  just a little semantic point i want to clarify - you are technically trying out linux, but linux is just the kernel (the core of the operating system... it's called NT in windows)  More precisely, you're trying out the Ubuntu linux-distribution
[03:36] <user_g> stevex: imgburn is great so is xfburn
[03:36] <BJJblue> I just mention it because it's a slightly confusing thing
[03:36] <user_g> I think cdbrunerxppro is good for windows
[03:36] <BJJblue> and understanding that will make stuff you read on the internet much clearer
[03:36] <stevex> BJJblue, I agree, and user_g, xfburn is good also
[03:36] <XDevHald> pete_ I think he is running from a different source.
[03:36] <XDevHald> He needs to change is sources list.
[03:36] <pete_> XDevHald, possibly
[03:37] <pete_> Shidash, sudo apt-cache search alsa-utils
[03:37] <user_g> cwillu: I think you'll be able to help with this...
[03:37] <pete_> before you update your lists...
[03:37] <ugliefrog> i changed themes and somehow my icons in office have been replaced with text....is there a fix aroo
[03:37] <pete_> ugliefrog, what do you mean in office
[03:37] <cwillu> stevex, expanding on what BJJblue just said, you can get an almost identical desktop from any distro that uses gnome, including things such as bsd (which isn't linux at all)
[03:37] <pete_> open office?
[03:37] <Shidash> pete_: alsa-utils - ALSA utilities
[03:37] <user_g> ... gpg -c --cipher-algo AES256 filename...
[03:37] <Shidash> gnome-alsamixer - ALSA sound mixer for GNOME
[03:37] <pete_> Shidash, sudo apt-get intall alsa-utils
[03:37] <pete_> install*
[03:37] <SuspectZero> hey there. is there a way i can install ubuntu from windows without the use of external software? like anything built in on the cd itself?
[03:37] <ugliefrog> pete_, open office
[03:38] <BJJblue> cwillu:  his head is about to explode! Take cover!
[03:38] <pete_> ugliefrog, try going to the icon themes and re-selecting the icon package or trying a new one
[03:38] <user_g> enter passphrase. quantum breakage easily but what about privacy?
[03:38] <pete_> ?
[03:38] <stevex> Ok, once I finish the install I will probably be rambling off a lot of ?'s to you guys ha :)
[03:38] <cwillu> SuspectZero, you can use wubi, but I personally don't recommend it :p
[03:38] <BJJblue> yeah please do
[03:38] <XDevHald> lol pete_ we had him running the actual repo name :-p
[03:38] <pete_> yea
[03:38] <cwillu> user_g, I'm sorry, I don't understand the question
[03:38] <pete_> thats what i figured out
[03:38] <pete_> haha
[03:38] <stevex> Now if only my laptop had Steam on it, a little CS wouldn't hurt while I wait :)
[03:38] <SuspectZero> cwillu hahah well im trying to see if i can encorporate the install into a different distro
[03:38] <pete_> good call though
[03:38] <SuspectZero> which is based off ubuntu
[03:39] <cwillu> user_g, crypto based on factoring large numbers is broken if we figure out how to make large-scale quantum computers, but that's not gonna happen over night
[03:39] <BJJblue> sstevex:  lol college student, i presume?
[03:39] <user_g> I send you a .gpg file with the passphrase already in it, not need for keys, just enter pw
[03:39] <Shidash> pete_: I tried to install it but it said that it was already the newest version.
[03:39] <pete_> Shidash, hmmmm.......
[03:39] <XDevHald> Shidash: To the right of the repo name does it show the version?
[03:39] <user_g> safe? and no, I don't mean personally send you a file just wonder about email without public and priv. encry.
[03:39] <bullgard4> I have installed SeaMonkey 1.1.17 on two computers. On one computer the Window menu shows the menu items Navigator, Mail_&_Newsgroups, Composer, Address_Book and IRC_Chat. On the other Mail_and_Newsgroups and Address_Book are missing. How can I add Mail_and_Newsgroups and Address_Book?
[03:39] <pete_> Shidash, and is your card not showing up at all?
[03:40] <cwillu> user_g, it's no stronger than your password (and potentially less, although to determine that I'd have to actually spend some time looking up your exact command line)
[03:40] <cwillu> user_g, the password is generally the weakest part of gpg though
[03:40] <cwillu> hence the use of keys
[03:40] <user_g> ok, i c
[03:40] <foundry87> I'm trying to select a device for my webcam in gstreamer-properties but it's not letting me, can someone help?
[03:40] <cwillu> as a general principle, human beings can't remember enough bits to make good key material
[03:41] <cwillu> user_g, they call them 'pass phrases' in this context for a reason
[03:41] <Shidash> pete_: I am not sure, sometimes it seems to show up and sometimes it doesn't. I am very new to Ubuntu and have not dealt with this issue before, so I am unsure.
[03:41] <cwillu> user_g, a nice long sentence is far preferable to a single word password
[03:41] <pete_> Shidash, so some times your sound works and some times it does not?
[03:41] <pete_> Shidash, my only conclusion then, and i could be wrong, is that your hardware is damaged
[03:42] <user_g> well... passph. for me = x!`v5j7L9). etc. so tough to break
[03:42] <Shidash> pete_: Not full sound. I have had noises work, but not sound.
[03:42] <pete_> o
[03:42] <Shidash> pete_: I have XP on dual boot and sound works fine on there.
[03:42] <pete_> Shidash, im sorry i must leave for like 5 minutes but I will be right back
[03:42] <pete_> i promise to help you
[03:42] <mdg> hi BrianR___
[03:42] <Shidash> pete_okay
[03:42] <Shidash> pete_: Thank you
[03:42] <user_g> cwillu: can't find the link but saw somewhere that's there is now a chip (quantum) which can't be put in a binary computer... -something along those lines
[03:43] <user_g> making cracking binary stuff easily available to the average joe
[03:43] <gartral> hello, im trying to make a launcher launch a bash script, this possible?
[03:44] <RDove> yes
[03:44] <mdg> gartral: yes
[03:44] <user_g> leaf-sheep?
[03:44] <gartral> RDove mdg erm.. how?
[03:44] <mdg> gartral:  you using gnome?
[03:44]  * gartral nods to mdg
[03:44] <Shidash> XDevHald: Check your PMs.
[03:45] <dragon> How can I change a process's default "nice" value?
[03:45] <dragon> !nice
[03:45] <mdg> gartral: right click on an open portion of your desktop and in the resulting window choose "create launcher"
[03:45] <dragon> `man nice` doesn't do what i'm looking for.
[03:46] <gartral> mdg: got that far, made the icon, added the path to the script and set both as executable, nada
[03:46] <rcayea> I'm looking for help to remove wine leftover files in the Applications tab if anyone has time.
[03:46] <user_g> gartral, did u im me?
[03:46] <gartral> user_g: sorry, wrong name
[03:46] <mdg> gartral:  for "Type" did you choose "application in terminal?"
[03:46] <user_g> gartral: np
[03:46] <pete_> Shidash, ok
[03:47] <gartral> mdg: nope, thanks, ill try that
[03:47] <Shidash> pete_: Should I PM you? It might be easier.
[03:47] <pete_> ok
[03:47] <mdg> gartral: bash needs a terminal window to run a script....
[03:48] <gartral> mdg: when i cliked the script itself it can run without a term window
[03:48] <mdg> gartral: the "launcher" wont know that without you telling it...
[03:49] <gartral> mdg: ahh, well.. nada.. proc revved then stopped again
[03:49] <mdg> gartral: "when you clicked the script?
[03:49] <percealeaus> hey anyone ever fix a "checksum failure" post?
[03:50] <dragon> dragon: use `renice`
[03:50] <gartral> mdg: double clicked.. (i say "click" cause i park my mouse and nav with keyboard, it's a bit more comfy that way >.>)
[03:50] <dragon> dragon: oh cool, thanks!
[03:50] <mdg> gartral: is your script stored on the desktop.. like in a text file?
[03:51] <gartral> mdg: no, it's an non-extension file residing in the path of /home/gareth/nwn/
[03:51] <webbb82> i need some help in order to fix my empathy status problem i need to update from telepathy-butterfly-0.5.0. to 0.5.1 anyone have any clue how i can do this
[03:52] <mdg> gartral: that's the path you used for the launcher right?
[03:52]  * gartral nods again at ndg
[03:52] <gartral> mdg: yep, /home/gareth/nwn/nwn is the full path (the script is named nwn)
[03:53] <mdg> gartral: if you use Altr + F2 and type the complete path, what happens?
[03:53] <foundry87> gsstreamer-properties is not letting me select an input device for Video, how can I fix this?
[03:53] <mdg> gartral: Alt + F2
[03:53] <gartral> mdg: nothing.. odd
[03:54] <gartral> mdg: ahh.. didn't ask it to popen a terminal
[03:55] <gartral> mdg: nope, nvm... nothing
[03:55] <mdg> gartral: hmmm....
[03:56]  * gartral makes a simlink to the file
[03:56] <gartral> the simlink... does not work >.<
[03:56] <mdg> gartral: how about "alt + F2 nwn or whatever the name was - does that do anything?
[03:56] <stevex> Currently download DSL! Wish me luck on the install
[03:56] <mdg> gartral: without the full path
[03:57] <mdg> stevex: boot it live a few times before you install
[03:57] <gartral> mdg: opens the folder
[03:57] <bullgard4> I have installed SeaMonkey 1.1.17 on two computers. On one computer the Window menu shows the menu items Navigator, Mail_&_Newsgroups, Composer, Address_Book and IRC_Chat. On the other Mail_and_Newsgroups and Address_Book are missing. How can I add Mail_and_Newsgroups and Address_Book?
[03:57] <mdg> gartral: is that what its supposed to do?
[03:58] <gartral> mdg: no, it's supposed to open neverwinter nights
[03:58] <mdg> gartral: wjat
[03:58] <mdg> gartral: whats neverwinter nights?
[03:59] <gartral> mdg: a commercial game made by atari and liscenced by wizards of the coast, and the linux compatability is not too bad
[03:59] <Wiseman> is anyone here good with GIMP?
[03:59] <Wiseman> I need to make a template for which to print out acutual size
[03:59] <Wiseman> but I don't know how to do dimensioned drawings in GIMP
[04:00] <mdg> gartral: oh...
[04:00] <Ubee> Good evening everyone!!!!
[04:01] <gartral> mdg: i figured out the problem/...
[04:01] <mdg> gartral: when you launch it from your script -it runs in terminal or what?
[04:01] <bullgard4> Ubee: It's morning in Berlin, Germany.
[04:01] <Ubee> when karmic koala is released, will I be able to download it easily online?
[04:02] <Wiseman> Ubee: I'm sure you will
[04:02] <gartral> mdg: it askes, and will run weather i say in term or just run, so what imma do is set an alias for it, then point a launcher at the alias >)
[04:02] <gartral> >:)
[04:02] <Wiseman> why would it be different than any other release?
[04:02] <Wiseman> So nobody here knows GIMP?
[04:02] <BJJblue> i know of it...
[04:02] <gartral> Wiseman: ask in #gimp
[04:02] <cfedde> Wiseman: you want to use Gimp as if it were a cad tool?
[04:02] <ZykoticK9> Wiseman, try #gimp
[04:02] <Ubee> Does anyone know of a video where I can see a demonstration of Karmic Koala?
[04:02] <Wiseman> Nobody's awake in #gimp
[04:03] <iceroot> Ubee: youtube or a live-cd
[04:03] <Wiseman> cfedde: yeah something like that
[04:03] <prince_jammys> Ubee: check out #ubuntu+1 for karmic stuff.
[04:03] <mdg> gartral: sounds like you are making it more complicated....
[04:03] <Wiseman> I downloaded qcad and it's almost unusable
[04:03] <gartral> mdg: can i pm you the contents of this script? i think it would explain alot x.x
[04:04] <prince_jammys> pastebin it
[04:04] <mdg> gartral: pastebin it
[04:04] <cfedde> qcad is not so bad.  Pretty much like autocad and things like mountantop.
[04:04] <mdg> gartral: the more eyes looking at it - the better
[04:04] <gartral> mdg: really i cant, its got a Atari header pointing to an eula..
[04:05] <Wiseman> cfedde: well can you walk me through qcad then?  I just need to make a line and a few points dimensioned
[04:05] <mdg> gartral: so you are wanting a desktop launcher or are you just going to use an alias....
[04:06] <cfedde> Wiseman: googling qcad tutorial gave me a few reasonable hits.
[04:06] <gartral> mdg: im doing a kludge and making a desktop launcher to an alias x.x
[04:06] <mdg> gartral: again, it sounds like you are making more work for yourself...
[04:08] <mdg> gartral: so right now to run nwn you pop open a terminal and type "nwn" and it starts that game right?
[04:08] <gartral> mdg: the script points to several loaders..
[04:08] <gartral> mdg: no
[04:08] <webbb82> so they must be doing alot of bug fixes and updates cause i the past two days i have done apt-get upgrade and its always find 143 updates each time
[04:08] <lile> oi, alguém pode me ajudar?
[04:08] <gartral> mdg: to play, i need to open the folder it's located in and click the file, or type the (aleit short) path ./nwn/nwn into a terminal
[04:09] <prince_jammys> !pt | lile
[04:09] <Ximbinha> lile, brazilian moron.
[04:09] <mdg> gartral: where's this bash script part....
[04:09] <eyeron> how long do you guys usually wait to upgrade to the new release?
[04:09] <gartral> !attitude | Ximbinha
[04:10] <Frijolie> is there a way to change the location of folder emblem(s)?
[04:10] <Ubee> Does anyone know how I can download New York times reader on to my computer?
[04:11] <bullgard4> eyeron: One month.
[04:11] <Frijolie> sudo apt-get install New_York_Times_Reader
[04:11] <mdg> gartral: Alt + F2 ./nwn/nwn  [04:11] <eyeron> thanks bullgard4
[04:11] <prince_jammys> gartral: type out the full path to the program in the launcher.
[04:11] <gartral> mdg: tried it, nada
[04:11] <gartral> prince_jammys: tried that too
[04:12] <prince_jammys> gartral: so when does it work properly?
[04:12] <gartral> prince_jammys: when i double click the script or open from term
[04:13] <bullgard4> eyeron: I should hasten to add that is because I have another computer using a long-term support version too.
[04:13] <mdg> Ubee: you need the link or you don't know how to install?
[04:13] <gartral> prince_jammys mdg imma just makin my alias and saying "kludging is better than clicking'
[04:13] <eyeron> oh ok
[04:13] <mdg> gartral: type full path including the ./nwn/nwn
[04:13] <prince_jammys> gartral: i don't see the special benefit of the alias. You can just put the prog somewhere in your PATH
[04:13] <gartral> brb all
[04:14] <eyeron> so bullgard4, although i am using jaunty as my one and only system, you would recommend waiting a minimum of one month?
[04:14] <gartral> prince_jammys: noooot really... i have a *full* 60 drive as my main, and a 160 gb drive for /home... and nwn takes 10 gigs all said and done
[04:15] <bullgard4> eyeron: Yes, definitively yes.
[04:15] <eyeron> much appreciated sir
[04:15] <ExElNeT> heya. whats the meaning of the number and letter in the runlevel symlinks? e.g S20 ?
[04:15] <gartral> hwow do i reload the aliases so i dont have to log out>in again?\
[04:16] <lluad> ExElNeT  S means it'll be started, K means it'll be stopped. The numbers make sure the scripts are run in the right order.
[04:16] <prince_jammys> gartral: exec bash
[04:16] <cfedde> gartral: in a .profile or .bashrc?  . ~/.bashrc
[04:17] <XimDev> hello everybody
[04:17] <prince_jammys> don't put aliases in .profile
[04:17] <XimDev> i messed things up
[04:17] <gartral> cfedde: bashrc, prince_jammys got it
[04:17] <ExElNeT> lluad: so S99 means last and K99 first?
[04:17] <mdg> Ubee: ???
[04:17] <XimDev> i moved /bin and now I can't launch the terminal
[04:17] <XimDev> how do I move back from nautilus?
[04:17] <ExElNeT> lluad: in order...
[04:17] <bullgard4> ExElNeT: The number is choosen to establish a certain sequence of commands to be executed. Usually a higher number will be executed later. --  I do not know the meaning of different letters. May be the calling program responds only to a certain letter.
[04:17] <prince_jammys> XimDev: do you have physical access to the computer?
[04:17] <XimDev> yes...
[04:18] <prince_jammys> XimDev: boot with a live CD, mount the filesystem and move it back.
[04:18] <XimDev> aarrgh
[04:18] <lluad> Something like that, yes, ExElNeT. It's been a while since I've had to mess with it by hand. :)
[04:18] <XimDev> can't I do it without rebooting?
[04:18] <cfedde> gartral: so literaly type '. .bashrc' w/o the quotes of course
[04:18] <prince_jammys> XimDev: maybe. painfully, probably. It'll probably take longer to figure out than doing the above.
[04:19] <gartral> XimDev: not really.. what you did was completly bork all the launching and operating capabilities of your comp, once you reboot, you wont be able to boot normally again till that /bin is moved _back_
[04:19] <xikteny> XimDev: Are you setting at the desktop now?
[04:20] <bullgard4> I have installed SeaMonkey 1.1.17 on two computers. On one computer the Window menu shows the menu items Navigator, Mail_&_Newsgroups, Composer, Address_Book and IRC_Chat. On the other Mail_and_Newsgroups and Address_Book are missing. How can I add Mail_and_Newsgroups and Address_Book?
[04:20] <XimDev> yes
[04:20] <XimDev> gartral: that's why i joined the channel, i want to do it before rebooting
[04:21] <ExElNeT> lluad: bullgard4 thanks... but i have still a problem... i cant start an init script just fine, but if wanna start it automatically on startup it fails... is there any log which would help me finding out why the script fails on bootup?
[04:21] <xikteny> XimDev: if you are still logged in to a gnome session, you could try Alt + F2 'gksudo nautilus'
[04:21] <XimDev> i know /bin is the most important path part
[04:21] <jimbeam12> anyone in here used splash bootloader in startup
[04:21] <MenZa> ExElNeT: try dmesg
[04:21] <mdg> gartral: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318739 - have a look here
[04:21] <MenZa> !anyone | jimbeam12
[04:21] <xikteny> xikteny: that would give you a nautilus with root permissions, and you could cut/paste it back, maybe...
[04:22] <lluad> Also, check to see if your script is relying on something setup in your user environment, or if it depends on another service started after it is, ExElNeT
[04:22] <XimDev> that's first thing i tried
[04:22] <jimbeam12> does anybody use splash on bootup
[04:22] <XimDev> doesn't work
[04:22] <ankur> HI,
[04:22] <bullgard4> ExElNeT: Hopefully /var/log/syslog.
[04:22] <xikteny> XimDev: probably have to use a live CD, then.
[04:22] <ankur> Hi, I cannot connect to my Wireless network even though I am able to see it using iwlist
[04:22] <mdg> gartral: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318739 - have a look here
[04:23] <jimbeam12> everytime i used start up manager to configure it..it lock my computer on startup
[04:23] <gartral> mdg: wow, a script to kickstart... anoth script...
[04:24] <ankur> Hi, I cannot connect to my Wireless network even though I am able to see it using iwlist
[04:24] <xikteny> !patience | ankur
[04:24] <mdg> ankur: what kind of encryption your network using? Does your adapter support that encryption?
[04:25] <afallenhope> is there a reason as to why the ubuntustudio-menu package doesn't actually change the menu ?
[04:25] <afallenhope> it USED to..
[04:25] <Gnea> !wireless | ankur (please to be telling us your make/model# of wireless card, version of Ubuntu, kernel version, what encryption level you're trying to use, and any program/gui to configure with)
[04:25] <ankur> sorry, I thought my first query was not posted here..
[04:25] <gartral> mdg: tytyty
[04:25] <shidash> Hello
[04:25] <shidash> Sound works!
[04:26] <Gnea> ankur: no, it made it, but it wasn't very informative
[04:26] <ankur> Ok, I am using WPA encryption on netgear WG111v3 USB adapter
[04:26] <mdg> gartral: just a little google magic :)
[04:26] <XimDev> hmm how do i open a terminal other than x
[04:26] <XimDev> with the alt something key?
[04:26] <mdg> XimDev: Alt + F1 through Alt + F6
[04:26] <XimDev> hmm not working
[04:26] <mdg> XimDev: Alt + F7 takes you back to your desktop
[04:27] <prince_jammys> XimDev: ... which is going to spawn /bin/bash, which you moved.
[04:27] <XimDev> yeah
[04:27] <XimDev> so no other way other than restarting
[04:27] <mdg> XimDev: you using the number keys for F-keys?
[04:27] <prince_jammys> he moved his /bin
[04:27] <mdg> XimDev: sorry Ctrl + Alt + F1 through F6
[04:27] <XimDev> ahh
[04:27] <XimDev> k
[04:28] <Gnea> ankur: looks like there's a couple of those - have you looked through this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsNetgear#USB
[04:28] <shidash> hm... someletter DevHald was helping me... but I forget the first letter. Anyone know so I can thank him?
[04:28] <ankur> kernel version is 2.6.28-11-generic and I am trying to configure using /etc/network/interfaces only, not using any tool
[04:28] <XimDev> its still trying to span /bin
[04:28] <Gnea> ankur: ah, okay - using the interfaces file is a bit archaic - these days you're better off with NetworkManager or, my favorite, wicd
[04:29] <prince_jammys> shidash: X
[04:29] <shidash> ah
[04:29] <shidash> XDevHald: Thank you!
[04:29] <ankur> Gnea, I am able to connect the network using the same config on another pc...it works
[04:29] <ExElNeT> MenZa: bullgard4 lluad nothing ;/ the script just fails. well it gets started as last script... crazy...
[04:29] <Gnea> ankur: is that with ubuntu or debian?
[04:29] <ankur> ubuntu
[04:29] <Gnea> jaunty?
[04:29] <XDevHald> Shidash: You are VERY welcome
[04:29] <ankur> yes, ubuntu jaunty
[04:30] <XDevHald> Enjoy your desktop and let us know if you have any other questions.
[04:30] <Gnea> ankur: could you please pastebin your interfaces file?
[04:30] <shidash> XDevHald: Thanks :) You guys are great
[04:30] <ankur> infact it was working till a few days back....but just stopped working recently
[04:30] <Gnea> ankur: upgrade?
[04:30] <demonspork> hi, I have a document I am working on in Openoffice.org in Ubuntu linux, and I clicked on the "Macro" tab in the "Picture" dialog box, and it pops up a warning telling me "OpenOffice.org requires a Java runtime environment (JRE) to perform this task. Please install a JRE and restart OpenOffice.org. Please install the openoffice.org-java-common package for this functionality.  When I close it, the dialog opens up again, I can't save a
[04:30] <demonspork> nd I can't keep working
[04:31] <demonspork> please help
[04:31] <prince_jammys> XimDev: where did you move it? what is the new path?
[04:31] <cray-4> hey guys
[04:31] <XimDev> ok, how do i mount my file system using liveCD
[04:31] <XimDev> i think i have the dapper drake
[04:31] <lenswipe> heatguns melt paint
[04:31] <Gnea> !OOo | demonspork
[04:31] <XimDev> i moved to /usr/local/build1/bin
[04:31] <lenswipe> who wouldv guessed