[00:00] <tozetre> Uplink: I gotta run, sorry. I know the package name is ghostscript and more info about gs can be found here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghostscript
[00:00] <dynamic_batt> hey!
[00:01] <SJr|Work> Whenever I leave my X-session for a console then come back my console never re-appears I have to do a CTRL+ALT+BKSP to get myself all straigtened out.
[00:03] <dynamic_batt> how can i get rid of multiple ubuntu's on bootscreen?
[00:03] <unko> can someone pleae help me make a new mode for my monitor? i need to add the res 1600x1024. and it says i need to add a newmode
[00:03] <Mion> dynamic_batt: boot with nologo or get a single core cpu
[00:03] <Mion> unko: O_o
[00:03] <Mion> strange res
[00:03] <jerknextdoor> can any one help with a "device is unmanaged" error with NetworkManager?
[00:03] <unko> mion: how
[00:04] <dynamic_batt> Mion, ummm.. how can i boot with no logo? :D
[00:04] <shlork> out of curiosity, after netbooks came out, how much busier did this channel get?
[00:04] <unko> woops
[00:04] <Mion> dynamic_batt: nologo
[00:04] <dynamic_batt> what is that? Mion?
[00:04] <unko> mion: how is it a strange res? im not using a lcd thats why
[00:04] <dynamic_batt> im a noob on this.. :S
[00:05] <Mion> dynamic_batt: actually, I think it's logo.nologo
[00:05] <Mion> it's a kernel parameter
[00:05] <eraldo> I can not view event details or calendar settings anymore in google calendar. It works on other machines using the same browser. I disabled all plugins to make sure it's the same.
[00:06] <Mion> dynamic_batt: trow it at the end of the kernel line in menu.lst
[00:06] <eraldo> the effected links are javascript links
[00:06] <dynamic_batt> so.. what should i type in terminal? (or what i need to do?
[00:06] <eraldo> any ideas... how to solve this issue?
[00:06] <unko> can someone pleae help me make a new mode for my monitor? i need to add the res 1600x1024. and it says i need to add a newmode
[00:06] <Mion> open /boot/grub/menu.lst in any editor you want
[00:06] <eraldo> Ubuntu 8.04
[00:06] <eraldo> 64bit
[00:06] <Mion> just make sure you do it as root
[00:07] <Mion> and add logo.nologo to the end of the kernel line
[00:07] <dynamic_batt> ok, ill do that now..
[00:07] <Mion> that will remove the logo, so that you don't get any at all
[00:07] <simone> !lista
[00:07] <Mion> dynamic_batt: the reason for why you are getting more than one logo, is that you have a multicore cpu
[00:07] <shlork> how do i make a makefile?
[00:07] <Mion> shlork: depends on what you want to make it for
[00:08] <Mion> plain make? automake? cmake?
[00:08] <shlork> Komodo-Edit
[00:08] <shlork> errrr
[00:08] <luismx> hola
[00:08] <unko> whats the command to list all my hardware?
[00:08] <shlork> lcpci i think
[00:08] <shlork> *lspci
[00:08] <unko> no it's like lsh
[00:08] <unko> somthing
[00:08] <unko> thats for the pci
[00:08] <unko> i need all
[00:09] <Mion> unko: hwdetect, lshw, lshwd, hwd
[00:09] <Mion> lots of options
[00:09] <unko> lshw thats it
[00:09] <Mion> shlork: there probably are a .deb of Komodo-Edit floating around somewhere
[00:10] <Mion> shlork: or switch to arch :p
[00:10] <Mion> we got it in aur
[00:10] <shlork> arch?
[00:11] <dynamic_batt> Mion, sorry for n00b question, but what the line looks like where i need to add logo.nologo? there are multiple kernel lines.. (i feel so confused ><)
[00:11] <frostburn> is tehre a linux equivalent to manic time?
[00:11] <Mox`> how do I "uninstall" lighttpd?
[00:11] <frostburn> there*
[00:11] <shlork> I''m a flaming tard, so please elaborate
[00:11] <innociv> shlork, archlinux
[00:11] <carlFK_lt> what is the command to gen ssh keys so I dont get: /usr/bin/ssh-copy-id: ERROR: No identities found
[00:11] <innociv> mox, apt-get uninstall lighttpd?..
[00:11] <innociv> er
[00:11] <shlork> archlinux eh?
[00:11] <innociv> apt-get remove
[00:11] <shlork> urrrgh
[00:12] <Mion> dynamic_batt: add it to the one you are booting
[00:12] <shlork> this lady next to me has a sandwich that smells of death
[00:12] <frostburn> Mox`, sudo apt-get remove lighttpd
[00:12] <Mion> Mox`: man apt-get
[00:12] <dynamic_batt> Mion, ok.. ill try to understand :D im kinda new to all of this..
[00:13] <shlork> Mion; don't make suggestions like that to me, i'm very impressionable.
[00:13] <Mion> shlork: ?
[00:13] <innociv> i like centos *shrugs* But the default repos suck ass and it's annoying messing around with other ones
[00:13] <innociv> so i'm using ubuntu now
[00:14]  * ProfeticX has switched from fedora to ubuntu "till something better comes along"
[00:14] <shlork> Mion; I might accidently listen to someone who makes a suggestion like that, and i'll end up septuple-booting
[00:14] <Franky_the_Pier_> Amarok:  My mp5 player is not recognized...  so I can't synch my songs...  is there any way I make make Amarok recognize my player?
[00:15] <Mion> shlork: ?
[00:16] <usser> innociv, its not repos its rpm that sucks ass
[00:16] <shlork> oh nevermind
[00:16] <innociv> Ok
[00:16] <dynamic_batt> Mion, umm.. cant i just delete those boots i dont need?
[00:16] <Mion> shlork: looks like komodo-edit is in ppa
[00:17] <fiftyone> can somoene help me with a mounting issue? I have two partitions I am trying to auto-mount one fat32 and the other NTFS i got the NTFS to mount fine but when I edit fstab to mount the Fat32 drive It locks up and I cant access it until I remove it from fstab.
[00:17] <Mion> dynamic_batt: since you don't really know what you are doing, no
[00:17] <shlork> Mion: which is....?
[00:17] <Mion> shlork: Ubuntu Personal Package Archives
[00:17] <shlork> awesome
[00:17] <shlork> ty.
[00:18] <prosx> Guys
[00:18] <fiftyone> anyone have experiance using fluxbox?
[00:18] <dynamic_batt> Mion, ok... so the logo.nologo needs to be added at this line? kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic root=UUID=087d4f93-e09c-4846-a893-2c2c23a080f7 ro quiet splash , and the other lines that looks kinda the same ill leave alone?
[00:18] <prosx> Anyone recommend a wep key cracker for ubuntu?
[00:18] <prosx> I want to do some testing...
[00:19] <laughyn1nj4> I like "critical updates" , but how can i stop the "recomended updates"?  i don't wan 'em.
[00:19] <shlork> aircrack or kismet
[00:19] <Mion> dynamic_batt: if you are booting the .27-11 kernel, yes
[00:19] <prosx> shlork which one is better?
[00:19] <prosx> and is it almost instant or does it take time?
[00:19] <shlork> takes time i believe
[00:19] <jerknextdoor> prosx: lots of time
[00:20] <shlork> nothing is instant baby
[00:20] <dynamic_batt> Mion, so, if i understand correctly this command will hide all other boot options?
[00:20] <Mion> no, it will only hide the n logo's you get when the kernel is booting
[00:20] <carlFK_lt> what do I need to do to allow this to work: holla@testing-base:~$ xclip /var/log/Xorg.0.log = X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0 holla@testing-base:~$
[00:21] <shlork> prosx check out both, i don't know enough about the both of them to make a recommendation
[00:21] <dynamic_batt> Mion, so, i will have my XP and Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-11-generic only yes?
[00:21] <Mion> no
[00:22] <dynamic_batt> then what i will have? :D
[00:22] <Mion> dynamic_batt: are you talking about the multiple menu entries in grub instead of the actuall logo you get when you boot?
[00:22] <laughyn1nj4> right click the Updates Icon, choose preferences, then turn "recomended updates" off --- DUH
[00:23] <Mion> if so, just comment out the entries you don't want in menu.lst (and don't add logo.nologo)
[00:23] <dynamic_batt> Mion, yes.. the screen where i need to chose OS
[00:23] <Mion> ah
[00:23] <Mion> just comment out the entries that you don't want
[00:23] <dynamic_batt> Mion, put # thingy in front yes?
[00:23] <Mion> yea
[00:24] <dynamic_batt> ^^ that makes sense...  :D
[00:27] <LewisSharp> I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to find the root mail's folder. I thought I'd find it under /var/mail/root but that directory is empty and I have logs into syslog saying email were sent to root (warnings about update-rc.d task probably not launching without errors). I can't debug this until I can get the mail content but I can't find it..
[00:27] <GB1> check memory
[00:27] <Mion> odder_: bwm.ng is nice
[00:27] <Mion> odder_: er.. bwm-ng
[00:27] <Mion> dynamic_batt: testing your ram sticks for errors
[00:27] <timebomb> hello. i used to have an autodeploy script for installing ubuntu headless. but now itll say this ebconf: (Can't locate Debconf/FrontEnd/Newt.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 20) line 2, <> line 1.)
[00:28] <timebomb> i havent changed anything in the preseed
[00:28] <prosx> Ok, i cant apt-get install aircrack-ng
[00:28] <timebomb> so i have no idea what the issue is. the only difference that i have in the script is that it spawns another bash
[00:28] <prosx> can someone walk me through why? I know it has something to do with repos possibly
[00:28] <timebomb> would anyone know what the issue is?
[00:28] <prosx> can someone help me fix it please
[00:28] <dynamic_batt> hmm.. and, if i have some errors (last night i ran it) it found about 4 or 5 red things...
[00:29] <dynamic_batt> how i fix em? >< :D
[00:29] <dynamic_batt> the errors are in red? yes?
[00:29] <odder_> Mion: I actually need to display the number on a webpage
[00:30] <odder_> the numbers*, but my www-data user is not eligible to run ifconfig
[00:30] <Droopsta915> I like Linux Ubuntu, I don't know how I got by without it! I've use it for 8 months now. Is there a way I can make money with Ubuntu? Get  job or somethng. I would love to have a job and use Ubuntu while at work.
[00:30] <Mion> odder_: netop?
[00:30] <prosx> can someone help me?
[00:30] <shlork> ok
[00:30] <shlork> prosx
[00:30] <shlork> keep it in pms with me
[00:30] <prosx> yes sir
[00:30] <prosx> thank you boss
[00:30] <Mion> odder_: er.. ntop I ment
[00:31] <prosx> you rock ;) def helpful
[00:31] <dynamic_batt> title		Other operating systems: OMG i can type anything in here and it will show that in my Boot menu? :D
[00:31] <Jiff> ah, I installed Ubuntu upon reccomendation, but its not working right
[00:32] <Mion> odder_: or if you just want a simple network io/total, just script something yourself. asuming you have access to read /proc
[00:32] <oh_noes> Any idea why this sudoers file fails parsing?   http://pastebin.com/m219bba05
[00:32] <Jiff> When I select which OS, it results in a command prompt like area
[00:32] <Jiff> just text
[00:32] <odder_> yeah, but dunno what file should I read?
[00:32] <dotsign> MSN
[00:33] <dotsign> hello everyone
[00:33] <dynamic_batt> title		Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[00:33] <dynamic_batt> root		(hd0,0)
[00:33] <dynamic_batt> savedefault
[00:33] <dynamic_batt> makeactive
[00:33] <dynamic_batt> chainloader	+1
[00:33] <FloodBot1> dynamic_batt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:33] <dynamic_batt> this means the xp will be the first option?
[00:33] <shlork> if that's the first item on the menu.lst
[00:34] <dotsign> i need MSN with sound and cam
[00:34] <dynamic_batt> oh... then... what does the makeactive command do?
[00:34] <IndyGunFreak> dynamic_batt: no, i believe that just adds that option
[00:34] <mohan43u> dotsign: ask m$ :)
[00:34] <dynamic_batt> and savedefault?
[00:34] <Mion> odder_: /proc/net/dev iirc
[00:34] <squarebracket> if i have a free dns hostname, is there any way i can make that hostname resolve inside my router?
[00:35] <luclucas> alguien habla espaniol
[00:35] <odder_> Mion: that's right. That's the file I was actually looking for
[00:35] <odder_> !es | luclucas
[00:35] <dynamic_batt> ok... i think i edited all.. its time for test-run
[00:35] <odder_> Mion: thanks, I'll script something myself with that file
[00:35] <vigo> Jiff: Is Grub installed?
[00:35] <luclucas> thanks
[00:36] <dynamic_batt> >< lol.. hey how can i log in as root? :D
[00:36] <MrElendig> dynamic_batt: you have to enable the root acount
[00:36] <IndyGunFreak> !root | dynamic_batt
[00:36] <MrElendig> tho, logging in as root is generally a stupid idea
[00:36] <Mox`> isn't it possible to remove all old directories from programs that don't exists any more?
[00:36] <MrElendig> just use sudo -i instead
[00:37] <dynamic_batt> MrElendig, thanks...
[00:37] <Jiff> grah, I just got ignored >_>
[00:37] <MrElendig> dynamic_batt: sudo -i ~ su -
[00:37] <MrElendig> it spawns a new shell with root privs
[00:37] <vigo> Hox: yes
[00:37] <Jiff> Can someone help me
[00:38] <Dethroned> ooh...is this the ubuntu help channel?
[00:38] <MisterKM> hey all how do i check what kernel i have?
[00:38] <vigo> Jiff: I asked if Grub was installed.
[00:38] <Jiff> no
[00:38] <mohan43u> MisterKM: uname -a
[00:38] <fearful> Is there anyway I can get the line numbers on the text editor in ubuntu I'm programing c++ and it'll be much more helpful
[00:38] <IndyGunFreak> MisterKM: uname -r, or uname -a.. can't remember which
[00:39] <Jiff> I wouldn't know howto install anything to it since I'm dual booting
[00:39] <vigo> Hox: FSlint sorta works for that.
[00:39] <Dethroned> is Ubuntu compatible with the Intel 845 graphics controller?
[00:39] <mohan43u> IndyGunFreak: what editor you are using?
[00:39] <IndyGunFreak> mohan43u: ?..editor?.. like text editor.. usually gedit or mousepad
[00:40] <GeorgeAScott> hi, wonder if anybody can help me.  i've got a logitech quickcam express plus.  using gspca module.  it's working with ekiga, but the video was too dark.  so i opened xawtv and adjust the exposure.  because the video settings in ekiga wouldn't move
[00:40] <vigo> Jiff: Grub has to be installed, Grub is the bootloader, let me see if I can find that for you on the forums.
[00:40] <GeorgeAScott> but the exposure made the video really crappy.  is there no way to just adjust the brightness?  or to get ekiga proper permissions to adjust the video setting?
[00:41] <mohan43u> IndyGunFreak: In Gedit goto Edit->Preferences->Display Line Numbers.. thats it.
[00:41] <Dethroned> I was wondering if it was compatible with the Intel 845 graphics controller because I get Ubuntu to install via Wubi...but it freezes up immediately after I login
[00:41] <IndyGunFreak> mohan43u: what are you talking about?.. i don't need help
[00:42] <mohan43u> sorry dude!! its for 'fearful'
[00:42] <Juravial> Folks I need some help with my wireless card ... can anyone point me in the right direction?
[00:42] <vigo> Jiff: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&highlight=text+mode+boot  or in command mode, update grub
[00:42] <dynamic_batt> Mion, it just says home/.../ is a directory
[00:42] <fearful> mohan43u, the standar ubuntu one
[00:42] <IndyGunFreak> Juravial: what device is it?
[00:42] <Juravial> Trendnet TEW-421PC
[00:42] <Mion> dynamic_batt: just type `sudo -i`<enter>
[00:42] <IndyGunFreak> Juravial: how does lspci identify it,.
[00:43] <mohan43u> fearful: goto Edit->Preference->Display Line Numbers
[00:43] <dynamic_batt> now i get the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>im now in root yes?
[00:43] <fearful> mohan43u, ah thank you very much
[00:44] <oh_noes> Any idea why this sudoers file fails parsing?   http://pastebin.com/m219bba05
[00:44] <Mion> dynamic_batt: now you have root privs until you do an `exit`
[00:44] <Mion> dynamic_batt: so be caregfull
[00:44] <Mion> carefull*
[00:44] <Juravial> Would that be cardbus bridge or PCI Bridge?
[00:44] <dynamic_batt> Mion, if i exit terminal im back to user?
[00:44] <IndyGunFreak> Juravial: i think it should show up in lspci
[00:44] <Mion> yes
[00:45] <Mion> it's more or less the same as su -
[00:45] <Mox`> how can i see diskspace on my server? :S
[00:45] <dynamic_batt> so i need to edit that menu.lst with terminal?
[00:45] <Mion> Mox`: df and du
[00:45] <Juravial> when i do an lspci in terminal I get a who slew of stuff .. not sure how to identify
[00:45] <Dethroned> I was wondering if it was compatible with the Intel 845 graphics controller because I get Ubuntu to install via Wubi...but it freezes up immediately after I login
[00:45] <Mox`> Mion thanks
[00:45] <bernz> dynamic_batt, you're not exiting the terminal, you're exiting the *shell* (a shell can "contain" another shell, and that's really what you're doing -- starting a super-user shell)
[00:46] <dynamic_batt> bernz, oh... thats does make some sense...
[00:46] <bernz> dynamic_batt, (it's no big deal, but encouraging correct terminology makes it easier to describe and solve problems ;-)
[00:46] <Mion> Mox`: carefull with du, it might take a long time if you do du / :p
[00:46] <dynamic_batt> :D
[00:47] <Mox`> Mion heh, I've found out :], how can I see the space in mb or gb? with df :O
[00:47] <Mion> man df
[00:47] <Mion> you are looking for the -h flag
[00:47] <bernz> "human readable" (to remember it)
[00:48] <Mox`> oke thanks :D
[00:48] <Juravial> Indygunfreak: I get a whole slew of stuff when I run lspci. I am not sure how to identify it
[00:48] <Mox`> hmm, can I see size of a directory?  I have downloaded a couple different .rar files that I know are not password protected yet Ubuntu keeps prompting me for a password.
[00:50] <dynamic_batt> Mion, oh ok
[00:50] <IndyGunFreak> dynamic_batt: no, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:50] <bre4kbeat> anyone running quake3 for ub 8.04
[00:50] <Juravial> indygunfreak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/123086/
[00:50] <Mion> change $EDITOR to whatever you want
[00:51] <bre4kbeat> well does anyone run quake 3 through wine?
[00:51] <IndyGunFreak> Juravial: it looks like you have an intel internal wireless device, why don;t you use it?.. intel usuallly works out fo the box, i do believe.
[00:51] <Dethroned> I was wondering if it was compatible with the Intel 845 graphics controller because I get Ubuntu to install via Wubi...but it freezes up immediately after I login
[00:52] <Juravial> I have had a problem with this thing since the very first time I formatted it. Default driver from Acer would never work
[00:52] <bre4kbeat> oh yea ub has great support...its called getting ignored
[00:52] <dynamic_batt> ill need to learn this console language... ><
[00:52] <Dethroned> It seems like that...or nobody has the answer
[00:52] <dynamic_batt> ok.. so finnaly its time for test-run :D
[00:52] <vigo> man man is your friend.
[00:52] <IndyGunFreak> Juravial: wouldn't work under Windows, or wouldn't work under Ubuntu?
[00:52] <slide> Are there any good gnome music notation applications?
[00:52] <Juravial> windows
[00:53] <IndyGunFreak> well that doesn't make much sense.,,, did it not work at all, or just not correctly?
[00:53] <Mox`> hmm colors gone in putty, how to fix that? :S
[00:53] <WarriorSlayer> ppl i've created a new partition with cfdisk while running my ubuntu installation, but now i don't have /dev/sda4 loaded, how i can reload all the devices?
[00:54] <WarriorSlayer> without having to reboot?
[00:54] <vigo> slide: Like tabs or sheet music?
[00:54] <Dethroned> Is WUBI known for causing problems?  I have a live cd coming in the mail...but I'd like to know if the problem is my computer, WUBI, or something else.
[00:54] <_VIM_> yep
[00:55] <Juravial> When I first got the laptop it worked fine, a few years ago ..got virused, formatted, tried to reinstall but the default drivers from Acer wouldn't work. I was never able to find a driver so I picked up the trend net onw
[00:55] <slide> vigo, more sheet music
[00:55] <slide> but I also want to synthesize it
[00:56] <Mion> Juravial: ipw2200 works perfectly, just install the firmware and load the module
[00:56] <vigo> slide: Amorok/Alsa/TuxGuitar/ and a buch of others, look at fsf.org
[00:56] <nite_johnboy> Can you run more then one session of K3b ? - I have (2) DVD burners - Would like to burn both CD's at the same time ? ?
[00:56] <dynamic_batt> yeey it works ^^
[00:56] <Dethroned> kk...I'll just wait for my cd to come in the mail...hopefully WUBI is the problem
[00:56] <Juravial> ok, i'll try it out
[00:56] <_VIM_> Dethroned:  why not just download one?
[00:56] <IndyGunFreak> Juravial: did you upgrade from 8.04?
[00:57] <Dethroned> My cd drive doesn't read blank cds
[00:57] <vigo> slide: http://directory.fsf.org/ That is a good place to start
[00:57] <slide> thanks
[00:57] <_VIM_> time for a new drive Dethroned :)
[00:57] <IndyGunFreak> Mion: was just reading on another link, that users who upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10, ahve had some probs, but if they clean installed 8.10, its fine
[00:57] <_VIM_> don't feel bad my Dell will not boot from USB :(
[00:57] <Juravial> no, I am fairly new, just started with 8.04
[00:57] <Mox`> hmm.. i'm running ubuntu server, the "usr" folder, is that nesserary?
[00:58] <Dethroned> _VIM_ I'm getting a new computer this year for college, but I just wanted to try it out on my current computer
[00:58] <Master_J> Hmm
[00:58] <Master_J> When i try to install any php package
[00:58] <_VIM_> Dethroned: does your computer boot from USB?
[00:58] <Master_J> it tries to download the file
[00:58] <Master_J> i am not being able to install
[00:58] <Master_J> package lai phpbb3
[00:59] <Dethroned> _VIM_ I've never tried it.
[00:59] <afallenhope>  Mox` you're running the recent kernel yes?
[00:59] <snuffmeister> hey, dunno if this is the right channel but i-m trying to install jaunty, and the install crashes, doesn't even open from the live cd
[00:59] <snuffmeister> anyone can guess why?
[00:59] <vigo> slide: I think Lilypond is one of the most used...
[00:59] <_VIM_> !unetbootin | Dethroned
[00:59] <_VIM_> ...
[00:59] <_VIM_> !info unetbootin
[00:59] <Mox`> afallenhope <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:00] <_VIM_> oh geez
[01:00] <FloodBot1> _VIM_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:00] <slide> I found "Linux MultiMedia Studio" which looks pretty nice
[01:00] <ImSad> I don't know if you guys can help me, but I've got windows 7 on a USB to install, but it won't start the install on this computer, it starts fine on my other though ( which runs vista)
[01:00] <Dethroned> _VIM_  If I were to put the ISO on a USB and try to boot from it would it install normally with partitioning and everything?
[01:00] <Dethroned> Best case scenerario
[01:01] <dynamic_batt> ok now that problem is solved... then to the next one... How can i get compiz fusion to work all the time (when i boot my Ubuntu i need to enable the Extra visual effects again and again, and all settings i use i need to re-set all the time) how can i fix this?
[01:01] <_VIM_> it will be the same as cd but on usb
[01:01] <vigo> slide: There are two listed for sheet music: http://directory.fsf.org/search/?query=sheet+music
[01:01] <_VIM_> hang on Dethroned trying to find you a good link
[01:02] <Mox`> how do i add a user who can sudo root? :O
[01:02] <_VIM_> Dethroned:  try this it looks pretty good http://www.sizlopedia.com/2008/10/31/install-ubuntu-810-usb-flash-drive/
[01:03] <ImSad> WELL, the error when I try to boot is missing /Boot/BCD/
[01:03] <Dethroned> _VIM_ Would it allow dual boot?
[01:03] <ImSad> is this just a problem because of Ubuntu?
[01:04] <Dethroned> Other than that question it looks pretty good
[01:04] <_VIM_> Dethroned: well it acts as a cd, that's all i know :)
[01:04] <bernz> so if i'm installing gtk+ and friends via source, can i untar them in /usr/src? (is that "good" because they are supposed to be system-wide shared libs?)
[01:04] <Dethroned> and cds allow dual boot?
[01:04] <techqbert> How do I add the German dictionary to Open Office?
[01:05] <_VIM_> Dethroned: whats in windows you need so badly? you can always run a Vmware or Virtualbox to accewss windows while INSIDE ubuntu
[01:05] <techqbert> II have it selected but it doesn't seem to be functional
[01:05] <_VIM_> !virtualbox
[01:05] <Mion> techqbert: you probably have to install the german language pack
[01:05] <Dethroned> _VIM_:  My parents will most likely use this computer when I go to college and I bought it used without any windows cds.  I don't want to leave Linux on it and have them be confused and start yelling at me.
[01:06] <passwordoff> omg 1350 in channel
[01:06] <Dethroned> They don't even know what an operating system is.
[01:06] <bernz> _VIM_, (is 'bochs' any good compared to the other VMs you mentioned?)
[01:07] <_VIM_> not tried that one bernz, most people around here say Virtualbox is the way to go
[01:07] <bernz> _VIM_, okay, i'll give that a try, thanks
[01:07] <techqbert> Mion: Doing so now.  Thanks
[01:08] <Dethroned> _VIM_: If I were to set it up for dual boot with XP, how would I go about uninstalling Ubuntu if I needed to?
[01:08] <sveakex> Dethroned: reinstall the mbr and then remove the ubuntu partitions
[01:08] <sveakex> Dethroned: master boot record, you need the windows xp cd for that
[01:09] <_VIM_> yep you'll need windows cd
[01:10] <sveakex> Dethroned: but i don't think you would want to remove the ubuntu partition ;)
[01:10] <Juravial> Mion: SHould I follow this? http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/
[01:10] <sveakex> holy crap this channel is not fludded as it usually is
[01:11] <_VIM_> sveakex: well his parents might :P
[01:11] <Mion> Juravial: no, just install the firmware with apt-get if you don't have it already, and then modprobe ipw2200
[01:11] <techqbert> Mion: I've installed the pack and I still don't get any corrections coming up.  This is under Ubuntu 8.10.  Yes I restarted OOo.
[01:12] <Mefached> Hey, my sound just died on me. I've been using Ubuntu for a long time now, and I've never had this happen. It was just working on Windows five minutes ago.
[01:12] <Mefached> I already checked Alsamixer; everything is at 100%.
[01:12] <sveakex> Juravial: i suggest looking for instructions in the ubuntu forums or wiki rather than official instructions
[01:12] <LordDragon> hey guys
[01:12] <asherwin> If you still have a trusty Win 98 boot disk, you can re-write the MBR much easier then getting your hands on  a XP cd
[01:12] <zim1> hi all got a encfs/samba question is it possible to view/add delete files from the fused folder via samba ?
[01:12] <sveakex> Mefached: try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[01:12] <sveakex> or
[01:13] <LordDragon> i just installed ubuntu but only have had experience with mandriva. how do i go about installing tools for compiling and such ?
[01:13] <sveakex> Mefached: sudo /etc/init.d/alsamixer restart
[01:13] <sveakex> Mefached: in the console
[01:13] <Dethroned> sveakex:  If not able to completely uninstall it...would it be possible to decrease the Unbutu partition enough so that it doesn't limit the XP partition?
[01:13] <akorn> can someone help me out with my USB audio adapter? whenever i open any program that uses sound (i.e. a movie, or even worse any program under Wine) i get a really loud whining sound out of my speakers...the adapter has both a microphone and a speaker jack...i know that in windows, i can Mute the Microphone and the whining stops but i can't seem to figure that out in ubunut...im running 8.04 64bit and it's the C-Media Usb adapter
[01:14] <sveakex> Dethroned: you can if you have the windows xp cd.. there are also different sources to get one *cough*
[01:14] <Mefached> Command not found, sveakex
[01:14] <Dethroned> Say, the internet? *cough cough*
[01:15] <Mion> Dethroned: as long as you got free space, yes
[01:15] <sveakex> Dethroned: yes ;) i mean you are just using it reinstall the mbr, so i think it's fair enough
[01:15] <asherwin> Dethroned:  You should be able to resize your existing partitions (relatively safely) with a GParted and re-write the MBR with an XP cd or an old windows boot dosk
[01:16] <Dethroned> I currently have Windows XP pro...but I have a windows cd for XP home edition...close enough? lol
[01:16] <sveakex> Dethroned: i'd rewrite the mbr before removing ubuntu
[01:16] <zim1> is there anyone in here using encfs ?
[01:16] <sveakex> Dethroned: that might work, but i am not sure
[01:16] <Titan8990> Dethroned, no, not close enough
[01:16] <asherwin> Dethroned:  Does it have a floppy drive?  http://boot.oldos.net/boot98.exe
[01:16] <Moopies> Hello, when I go to shut down my computer I get "Unable to iterate IDE devices: no such file or directory "
[01:16] <asherwin> the win98 boot disks support "fdisk /mbr"
[01:17] <bernz> akorn, does "ALSA mixer" mean anything to you? if not, try typing '!sound' (i think, maybe '!alsa') into the channel here
[01:17] <Moopies> and it halts
[01:17] <Dethroned> Let me dig in my drawer of crap...
[01:17] <Titan8990> Dethroned, wait... close enough to rewrite the MBR, not close enough for reinstall, repair install, etc
[01:17] <jlopes83> !alsa
[01:17] <techqbert> Mion: File -> Wizard -> Install Language works so long as you have enough preficiency to get through the menu with the corresponding language.
[01:18] <Moopies> I am using Hardy , how would I go about fixing this ?
[01:18] <jlopes83> \join #gentoo
[01:18] <bosco>  ok i am running linux and i am connecting to my site via ssh in terminal i changed my ssh port so how to i type that in to use the correct port and not 22 in terminal
 ???
[01:18] <akorn> !sound
[01:18] <Mion> techqbert: don't care, I use vim + aspell + texlive :p
[01:18] <akorn> !alsa
[01:18] <wartalker> i want to install kde4.2, someone help
[01:18] <sveakex> bosco: use the -p flag to choose port
[01:18] <akorn> bernz neither one's working haha
[01:18] <akorn> oh nvm sorry
[01:18] <ugliefrog> ubuntu on my laptop hangs during boot i have to hit the enter keys before it will finish loading
[01:18] <Moopies> !players
[01:18] <trapline91> wartalker,  in termenal type sudo apt-get install kde
[01:18] <bernz> akorn, sorry, i still haven't memorized the bot commands
[01:19] <jdimond> Moopies: It does this when you shutdown?
[01:19] <sveakex> bosco: ssh blah.ath.cx -p 1337
[01:19] <Moopies> jdimond, correct
[01:19] <techqbert> Mion: just for future reference
[01:19] <sveakex> bosco: to enter port 1337
[01:19] <zim1> bosco: ssh -p (the port)
[01:19] <n8tuserf> ugliefrog -> remove quiet and splash to see the debugging log while booting
[01:19] <bosco> thank you never done it before sounding like a noob
[01:19] <Dethroned> Hmm...the best i can find is windows XP home reinstallation cd
[01:20] <sveakex> bosco: try ssh -h
[01:20] <sveakex> bosco: or man ssh
[01:20] <asherwin> Dethroned:  that should be fine, if you startup the "recovery console" there are some tools available.  "fdisk /mbr" will re-write the MBR
[01:20] <asherwin> if thats all you're looking to do
[01:20] <Dethroned> Would it delete Ubuntu?
[01:21] <wartalker> trapline91: The following packages have unmet dependencies, how can i install the dependencies one time
[01:21] <Mion> Dethroned: no, just overwrite the mbr
[01:21] <asherwin> re-writing the MBR will make windows startup automatically instead of your bootloader (GRUB)
[01:21] <Dethroned> So essentially it would avoid the Ubuntu partition?
[01:21] <sveakex> Dethroned: rewriting the mbr removes grub, after that you remove the partitions and make your ntfs partition larger
[01:22] <joker42> hello everyone I was wondering is anyone else using avast antivirus?
[01:22] <trapline91> wartalker, Was it 4.2 that you wanted?
[01:22] <Moopies> jdimond, any ideas?
[01:22] <sveakex> Dethroned: if you only remove the ubuntu partitions you can't boot
[01:22] <zim1> anyway all is it possible to user the mounted unencrypted mount of encfs with samba?
[01:22] <Titan8990> !ask | joker42
[01:22] <wartalker> trapline91:yes
[01:22] <sveakex> joker42: this is a linux channel
[01:22] <joker42> Im having trouble installing
[01:22] <Dethroned> Maybe he's installing it on linux
[01:22] <Mion> joker42: o rly?
[01:22] <sveakex> joker42: you don't need avast on linux
[01:22] <joker42> i know i have the linux version
[01:23] <trapline91> wartalker, try this http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> joker42: why?
[01:23] <Titan8990> !virus | joker42
[01:23] <techqbert> Mion: One last thing.  Does your vim method support grammar checking too?  Mine doesn't.  I used a genitive preposition and OOo throws no errors around my nominative definite article.
[01:23] <joker42> if you guys say so
[01:23] <malibu> Does anyone know what I can use to forward yahoo messenger traffic coming in through a VPN?
[01:23] <Dethroned> sveakex: So fixing the MBR would make it boot up in Windows...then I would have to manually adjust the partitions?
[01:23] <Moopies> I thought ClamAV was available
[01:23] <malibu> I think the protocol uses 5050
[01:23] <joker42> ok thanks
[01:23] <raylu> techqbert: vim solution to what? vim has some degree of grammar checking.
[01:23] <Titan8990> Moopies, clamav is available in the repositories
[01:23] <Mion> techqbert: I only use it to catch plain old typos etc
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> joker42: only reason you'dneed antivirus, is if you're filesharing w/ Windows machines, and you need to scan the files before sending them to windows users
[01:24] <jdimond> Moopies: You could add -h switch in the halt script.
[01:24] <Moopies> Titan8990, I don't really see a need for it
[01:24] <jlopes83> hello
[01:24] <techqbert> raylu: vim aspell texlive is the software collaboration in question
[01:24] <Moopies> jdimond, halt script ?
[01:24] <Titan8990> Moopies, well, if you are running an email server that has windows clients, you want a virus scanner
[01:24] <jdimond> Moopies: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/193125 <--- There launchpad bug explaining
[01:24] <Moopies> Oh yes.
[01:24] <raylu> techqbert: i happen to use that too :D
[01:24] <sveakex> Dethroned: yup, i think you can use the ubuntu cd to remove the partitions, just start gparted when you are inside the cd, or sudo gparted, if you are lucky windows might have a built in tool for adjusting partitions
[01:24] <dsmith_> hello, somehow in /etc/passwd file, root was renamed as oot, now I have no root account on this machine. Simple fix??
[01:25] <raylu> sveakex: last time i told windows to remove an ext3 partition it did so... and then screwed up the partition table
[01:25] <Titan8990> dsmith_, backup that file and manually fix it
[01:25] <sveakex> Dethroned: you can also use partition magic to resize partitions... you download it from the internet *cough*
[01:25] <Mion> dsmith_: live cd + mount + text editor
[01:25] <techqbert> raylu: ;D it doesn't throw any errors around grammar mistakes does it?
[01:25] <Titan8990> dsmith_, although I have trouble believing that happened without direct user intervention
[01:25] <LogicFan> no reason to use partition magic, its very old and hasn't been updated in years
[01:25] <sveakex> Dethroned: ok don't use windows to remove the ubuntu partitions
[01:25] <LogicFan> just use gparted
[01:25] <zim1> dsmith_: boot up the machine with a live cd and change it
[01:25] <dsmith_> i must have edited, without seeing the r being removed, duhhh
[01:25] <dsmith_> ok
[01:25] <raylu> techqbert: it does, though rarely. it highlights spelling mistakes in red and grammar mistakes in blue
[01:25] <Dethroned> sveakex: Thanks.  Hopefully this works and everything works.  If I need any more help I'll track you down or something...lol *cough*
[01:26] <dsmith_> I was thinking along the lines of a live cd :)
[01:26] <LogicFan> you can boot with the ubuntu live cd and use gparted
[01:26] <sveakex> raylu: did you rewrite the mbr?
[01:26] <dsmith_> thx guys
[01:26] <sveakex> Dethroned: yeah, but try using the ubuntu cd to rewrite the mbr
[01:26] <techqbert> raylu: hrm maybe I'll give that solution a shot with Deutsch.
[01:26] <raylu> sveakex: overwrite the mbr with windows? no
[01:26] <Dethroned> Now all I have to do is rely on the mail service
[01:26] <sveakex> Dethroned: um
[01:26] <raylu> techqbert: are you familiar with vim?
[01:26] <sveakex> Dethroned: i meant the partions
[01:26] <Moopies> jdimond, I am guessing you want me to follow  "Joe Philipps  wrote on 2008-07-11:  (permalink) " 's ideas?
[01:26] <zim1> LogicFan: why gparted? just a text editor
[01:26] <sveakex> Dethroned: not the mbr :P
[01:27] <LogicFan> eh?
[01:27] <TraceGreen> Hello, I desktop can not be shown on projector while I am using Ubuntu 8.04 LiveCD, my video card is geforce 7150m
[01:27] <_VIM_> zim1:  you're thinking of gedit
[01:27] <techqbert> raylu: at an intermediate or amateur level yeah.
[01:27] <sveakex> raylu: you need to rewrite the mbr with a windows install cd if you want to remove ubuntu
[01:27] <Dethroned> sveakex:  Windows cd=MBR  Ubuntu cd=Partitions...right?
[01:27] <sveakex> Dethroned: yes sorry if i mixed it up a little :P
[01:27] <jdimond> Moopies: Yes. I had similar issues with my wifes laptop and those instructions solved it.
[01:27] <Dethroned> sveakex:  I think I've got it figured out
[01:27] <TraceGreen> I mean, projector just show nothing when I am in Ubuntu 8.04 LiveCD, how can I do to fix this problem?
[01:27] <sveakex> Dethroned: good :)
[01:28] <zim1> was responding to this (01:26:07) LogicFan: you can boot with the ubuntu live cd and use gparted
[01:28] <LogicFan> zim1, yes, you can do that.
[01:28] <_VIM_> zim1:  ah :)
[01:28] <Dethroned> sveakex:  Now watch my usb drive blow up...ha!
[01:28] <sveakex> Dethroned: usb? :P
[01:28] <LogicFan> zim1, gparted is the gnome partition manager
[01:29] <Dethroned> sveakex:  I'm gonna try and install Ubuntu from a flash drive
[01:29] <TraceGreen> Can anyone help me to configure my projector? I use compaq v3000 and my video card is geforce 7150m
[01:29] <raylu> sveakex: right. i wasn't removing ubuntu; i was actually messing around with some other distros
[01:29] <zim1> LogicFan: yes i know but it wnt help with editing the user file
[01:29] <Moopies> jdimond, OK, but I'm not understanding this jokers jibber jabber on what to do , mixed with ranting
[01:29] <sveakex> raylu: i reccomend having on distro at once per computer ;)
[01:30] <der|kunstler> when I set an X11 cursor, it only works w/o desktop effects, when enabling desktop effects, then it goes to the default cursor, any ideas >?
[01:30] <raylu> sveakex: that's what i had. but i had a partition for / and a partition for /home
[01:30] <raylu> sveakex: to make distro-switching easier :D
[01:30] <bartek_> hello all
[01:30] <Moopies> jdimond, It appears after " log_action_msg "Will now halt" " , I go down two lines to halt -d -f -i $poweroff $hddown
[01:30] <zim1> I am still looking for anyone who uses encfs
[01:30] <Moopies> jdimond, And remove halt ?
[01:31] <sveakex> raylu: then something weird happened, i suggest to edit partitions in linux then, with live cds
[01:31] <raylu> sveakex: yep. that's what i ended up doing...after recovering my data using some linux tools
[01:31] <raylu> sveakex: closest i've ever come to losing data
[01:31] <jdimond> Moopies: don't remove halt
[01:31] <sveakex> raylu: hehehe :P
[01:31] <Moopies> jdimond, OK.  Just remove -h ?
[01:32] <raylu> sveakex: it was funny for the person i had told the day before that "backups are excessive"
[01:32] <sveakex> jdimond: what do you want to do?
[01:32] <jdimond> Moopies: Yes, that's what I did.
[01:32] <sveakex> raylu: hehehe :)
[01:32] <Moopies> wait, I don't see a -h
[01:32] <josher4> !compiz
[01:32] <Moopies>     halt -d -f -i $poweroff $hddown
[01:33] <zim1> there must be some one in here with something to hide is anyone using encfs?
[01:33] <_VIM_> How come Ubuntu doesn't have photorec? It's a really good file recovery (and not just for photos) It's in OpenSuSE's repos but I'm not seeing it in Ubuntu :/
[01:33] <Moopies> jdimond, what line is -h in?
[01:34] <Mox`> whats best to install as server? ubuntu 8.04 x63 or ubuntu 8.10 x64?
[01:34] <shlork> why are so many people derisive of ubuntu?
[01:34] <Mox`> x64*
[01:34] <sveakex> Mox`: debian
[01:34] <deathtech> Hello gurus of all that is Ubuntu  /  linux . I have a usb external drive that i use the mount command to mount up to a specified directory. Using Samba, if i share the folder out, and then mount with the sudo command to that directory, it appears root takes ownership. Is there a way to use the mount command and say to doso as a different user ? or am i going about this the wrong direction ?
[01:34] <n8tuserf> Moopies -> why are you using halt instead of shutdown?
[01:34] <gaokai> how to make the computer run my command when powering on my PC?
[01:34] <Moopies> n8tuserf,  ?
[01:34] <jdimond> Moopies: It should have been in that line you referenced
[01:34] <Mox`> sveakex I don't wan't debian?
[01:35] <zim1> Mox`: how long do you need support for 8.04 has longer support LTS
[01:35] <sveakex> Mox`: :p
[01:35] <jrib> deathtech: what filesystem?
[01:35] <deathtech> jrib : Heya jrib, i beleive you have helped me before :) its an ntfs filesystem
[01:35] <Mox`> zim1 hmm didn't understand that? :S
[01:35] <gaokai> how to make the computer run my command automatically when powering on my PC?
[01:35] <sveakex> Mox`: if you want a server you want something stable
[01:35] <shlork> fat32 baaay-bee!
[01:35] <zim1> Mox`: I think 8.04 will update till 2013
[01:35] <Mox`> sveakex and ubuntu isn't stable? :O
[01:35] <der|kunstler> when I set an X11 cursor, it only works w/o desktop effects, when enabling desktop effects, then it goes to the default cursor, any ideas >?
[01:35] <Mox`> zim1 oke
[01:35] <jrib> deathtech: what command are you running to mount it?
[01:36] <Moopies> jdimond, it goes log_action_message "will now halt" | sleep 1 | halt -d -f -i $poweroff $hddown | }
[01:36] <sveakex> Mox`: well it used to based on debian unstable
[01:36] <deathtech> jrib : sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1
[01:36] <jrib> !ntfs | deathtech
[01:36] <jrib> deathtech: you need to pass proper fmask/dmask options
[01:36] <Titan8990> deathtech, you have to specify a mount point if its not in /etc/fstab
[01:36] <jdimond> Moopies: I bet removing the $hddown would solve it, but I don't know if it will have any negative effects.
[01:36] <deathtech> I do i just didnt include that in the command :)
[01:37] <jrib> deathtech: ok, what do you actually run?
[01:37] <jdimond> something like halt -d -f $poweroff
[01:37] <Mox`> sveakex hmm okay, currently i run 8.04 ubuntu x64 on the server and it works quite good, I don't know if I can feel any difference if I picked debian instead?
[01:37] <zim1> jrib: have you used encfs?
[01:37] <deathtech> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1 ~/Mount
[01:37] <jrib> zim1: no
[01:37] <dynamic_batt> configure: error: The important program kde-config was not found!
[01:37] <dynamic_batt> Please check whether you installed KDE correctly.
[01:37] <sveakex> Mox`: well what are you using the server for?
[01:37] <dynamic_batt> whats wrong?
[01:37] <n8tuserf> Moopies -> why are you using halt instead of shutdown?  i dont think its a good idea using shutdown, it does not do syncing if i recall
[01:37] <jrib> deathtech: where is the fmask/dmask options?
[01:37] <Titan8990> Mox`, debian is considered to be more stable, becuase it upgrades the kernel less
[01:37] <Mox`> sveakex virtual webhosting
[01:37] <deathtech> jrib : that may be what im missing, i dont include those
[01:38] <Mox`> Titan8990 hmm, well now I don't need kernel upgrade all the time? :O
[01:38] <Titan8990> Mox`, a lot of breakages can occur in ubuntu after the like monthly kernel upgrade
[01:38] <dynamic_batt> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KSmoothDock i did everything like it said :(
[01:38] <n8tuserf> Moopies -> rather its not a good idea to use halt..
[01:38] <Mox`> Titan8990 okay
[01:38] <Titan8990> Mox`, no, you don't have to, just saying, most distros will only use a couple kernels doing that version's lifecycle
[01:38] <sveakex> Mox`: then you would want something as stable as possible since it is a business, so i would reccomend debian over ubuntu
[01:38] <Mox`> Titan8990 ye okay
[01:38] <Moopies> n8tuserf, "Hello, when I go to shut down my computer I get "Unable to iterate IDE devices: no such file or directory " "
[01:39] <LogicFan> sveakex, or BSD :)
[01:39] <Mox`> sveakex well allright, you are right :),. hmm well is debian as easy as ubuntu?
[01:39] <sveakex> LogicFan: yeah, OpenBSD hasn't had a bug for ages i have heard
[01:39] <Mox`> can I convert directly?
[01:39] <n8tuserf> Moopies -> all the time? or one time?
[01:39] <LogicFan> FreeBSD is more modern in terms of what it supports
[01:39] <Moopies> n8tuserf, all the time
[01:39] <Moopies> n8tuserf, " Moopies: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/193125 <--- There launchpad bug explaining "
[01:39] <josher4> How do I get the "cube effect" for compiz? I have the settings manager but still only have two desktops and no cube...
[01:39] <ugliefrog> how do i do------>boot with pci=noacpi
[01:39] <sveakex> Mox`: it can't be so much more difficult ;) but i don't like the debian documentation, you can use the ubuntu wiki and the gentoo wiki as a base
[01:40] <Titan8990> josher4, general options -> desktop size: 4
[01:40] <LogicFan> OpenBSD works well if your hardware and whatever software you need is 100% supported, but a lot of common stuff doesn't work yet.  however, its ultra secure
[01:40] <Mox`> sveakex the gentoo wiki is down? :O
[01:40] <Dethroned> sveakex: I was just wondering how I boot the computer from the flash drive when I reboot.
[01:40] <n8tuserf> Moopies -> okay
[01:40] <Mox`> sveakex but ye, I don't like the documentation too, last time I used debian I remember the doc sucked
[01:40] <LogicFan> Dethroned, you need to enter your BIOS and tell your machine to boot from the USB port instead of hdd or cdrom
[01:40] <Titan8990> sveakex, the gentoo wiki recently lost its entire database
[01:40] <techqbert> Any German speakers in the house?  I think OOo is throwing an incorrect error.  Wahrend des Wochenendes is correct right?  Wochenendes -(genitive)-> es not en right?
[01:41] <Titan8990> sveakex, it is in the rebuilding proccess
[01:41] <Moopies> n8tuserf, jdimond, it appears others have replaced it with "	halt -d -f $poweroff $hddown "
[01:41] <Dethroned> LogicFan: How do I go about doing that?
[01:41] <sveakex> Mox`: http://gentoo.wiki.info is a backup
[01:41] <zim1> Dethroned: try looking at you bios boot settings
[01:41] <Nytrix> what is a good program to reduce the size of multiple images, i really dont want to do 1 picture at a time...anyone?
[01:41] <LogicFan> most bios options have some sort of boot option menu that will allow you select which device to boot from and what order
[01:41] <ConstantineXVI> josher4, also, make sure desktop cube and rotate cube are turned on
[01:41] <Moopies> jdimond, n8tuserf, taking out the " -i "
[01:41] <MrZ> Hi, what I update my sources.list? Please Help me
[01:41] <jdimond> Moopies: I bet it will work.
[01:41] <sveakex> Titan8990: http://gentoo.wiki.info is a backup
[01:41] <LogicFan> Dethroned, generally, there is a key that you press when your computer boots up.  most of the times its the del key or f1
[01:41] <_VIM_> Nytrix:  imagemagic
[01:41] <LogicFan> depending on your computer
[01:41] <Titan8990> !repos | MrZ
[01:41] <Nytrix> ok thnx i will try that
[01:41] <kadazzy> wooohhhhooooooooooo
[01:41] <LogicFan> you should see something like "press f1 to enter setup"
[01:42] <arghh2d2> Nytrix: tar?
[01:42] <Dethroned> kk
[01:42] <sveakex> Dethroned: try going inside the BIOS and look for what order it tries to boot from
[01:42] <acu> I have a high definition camcorder (Canon HG20) - it creates .mts files  (AVCHD) - however it seem that none of the players can play this files - what is the solution ?
[01:42] <josher4> Titan8990: I am on the desktop size page, there is horizontal and vertical sizes...
[01:42] <Titan8990> MrZ, its a plain text config file, just add or remove what you need and when your finished:  sudo apt-get update
[01:42] <jdimond> Moopies: Now that I think of it, I believe it was -i i removed on my wifes laptop. Sorry about that.
[01:42] <Mox`> sveakex the link doesn't work here :S
[01:42] <Moopies> jdimond, OK.  I'll see
[01:42] <Moopies> (if it works
[01:42] <Moopies> )
[01:42] <MrZ> !repos
[01:42] <zim1> I am still trying to find anyone who has worked with encfs HELP
[01:42] <Titan8990> jdimond, horzontal virtual size
[01:42] <sveakex> Mox`: sorry www.gentoo-wiki.info
[01:42] <jdimond> Moopies: Check your reboot too.
[01:42] <Titan8990> josher4,
[01:42] <_VIM_> acu:  my Sony HandyCam records in AVCHD too, so annoying,
[01:43] <Titan8990> sorr jdimond
[01:43] <Mox`> sveakex thanks :D
[01:43] <jdimond> Titan8990: No sweat.
[01:43] <Dethroned> LogicFan: Even if I want to run it from a flash drive just once, will I have to alter it again to run from the hard drive?
[01:43] <josher4> Titan8990: And only one desktop?
[01:43] <felixsulla> So, Gparted should, in theory, be able to change the size of an NTFS drive, right?
[01:43] <Titan8990> josher4, yes
[01:43] <LogicFan> Dethroned, yes, but you can set the order
[01:43] <sveakex> Mox`: but remember it is just a base to help you do what you want :)
[01:43] <LogicFan> so, 1:USB, 2: HDD, 3:CDROM
[01:43] <ugliefrog> how do i do------>boot with pci=noacpi
[01:43] <Moopies> " Iterates configured network interfaces and brings them down before shutting down "
[01:43] <LogicFan> so if there's no USB present, it will go to HDD, and so on until it finds a bootable device
[01:44] <dynamic_batt> hey, whats the easiest way to install ksmoothdock?
[01:44] <Titan8990> ugliefrog, add it to the end of the kernel line in grub
[01:44] <acu> _VIM: it seem that it was a need for a format to record high definition - the question is whether we can at least play the files in linux (and if possible edit them)
[01:44] <Moopies> What's the point in that anyway ?
[01:44] <n8tuserf> Moopies -> ummm.. curious as to the results if you do a sync; sync; sync;  sudo telinit 6   if same results?
[01:44] <Mox`> sveakexye :)
[01:44] <Titan8990> ugliefrog, you can use e to edit from the menu or you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:44] <Titan8990> ugliefrog, whichever you prefer
[01:44] <josher4> Titan8990: Still only two desktops and no cube. And the effects are enabled
[01:44] <boot_loop> anyone have a good site to find awesome desktop wallpapers, possibly linux oriented (other tham gnome-look.org)
[01:44] <sveakex> dynamic_batt: synapitc?
[01:44] <Moopies> n8tuserf, a who what
[01:44] <LogicFan> boot_loop, deviantart.com
[01:44] <Titan8990> josher4, did you turn on desktop cube and cube rotate?
[01:44] <boot_loop> ok cool, thanks LogicFan
[01:44] <prince_j1mmys> !themes > boot_loop
[01:44] <Mox`> hmm CentOS? :S have any of u tried that system?
[01:44] <josher4> Titan8990: Yes
[01:45] <n8tuserf> Moopies -> sync is a must before you shutdown,  telinit 6 puts it in runlevel 6 which is shutdown
[01:45] <Titan8990> josher4, I would suggest joining #compiz-fusion
[01:45] <LogicFan> Mox`, yes, its a free version of red hat enterprise linux
[01:45] <LogicFan> for servers
[01:45] <sveakex> Mox`: is is based on Reh Hat Enterprise Linux, so it should be safe
[01:45] <_VIM_> acu I seriously don't know, but please PM me or something when you find out :)
[01:45] <dynamic_batt> sveakex, whats that? i kinda dont understand (my language isnt english..) :D
[01:45] <Mox`> okay, so centos vs debian? who wins? :)
[01:45] <Moopies> n8tuserf, So this is all done for me though ? When I click "shutdown" or "restart" ?
[01:45] <n8tuserf> Moopies -> but runlevel 6 runs bunch of script
[01:45] <sveakex> dynamic_batt: do you use kubuntu or ubuntu?
[01:45] <Titan8990> Mox`, you don't get the paid professional support of RHEL though
[01:45] <dynamic_batt> sveakex, ubuntu
[01:45] <LogicFan> Mox`, as always, the questions is "for what purpose"
[01:46] <sveakex> dynamic_batt: press alt f2 and you should get a dialog, type synapitic inside and see if something opens
[01:46] <acu> _for playing I understood that VLC 0.9 might do it - however the repositories cannot pe updated
[01:46] <_VIM_> !best | Mox`
[01:46] <dynamic_batt> sveakex, ok
[01:46] <n8tuserf> Moopies -> should be done for you automatically clicking those you mentioned, but since you're having issues, am curious if telinit 6 would have same results as your ide not being found
[01:46] <Mox`> LogicFan well, virtual webhotel hosting :)
[01:47] <dynamic_batt> You will not be able to apply any changes. But you can still export the marked changes or create a download script for them. :(
[01:47] <dynamic_batt> root again..
[01:47] <LogicFan> is add/remove just another apt-get gui?
[01:47] <sveakex> Mox`: is webhotel hosting any profitable?
[01:47] <Mox`> sveakex well it's just as an start.. just to try it out
[01:47] <sveakex> dynamic_batt: um, try adding sudo infront of it, so sudo synaptic
[01:47] <sveakex> dynamic_batt: i mean gksudo
[01:48] <dynamic_batt> sveakex, gksudo synaptic?
[01:48] <Mox`> sveakex I have a really okay server with alot of space and so on, so why not try it out :D
[01:48] <sveakex> dynamic_batt: yeah give that a shot :)
[01:48] <Mox`> sveakex on a 100mbit connection too
[01:48] <LogicFan> i'm trying to figure why don't synaptic installed apps show up in add/remove?
[01:48] <sveakex> Mox`: your customers might get pissed off if something does not work :P
[01:48] <dynamic_batt> sveakex, oh.. thanks
[01:48] <sveakex> dynamic_batt: you're welcome :)
[01:48] <Mox`> sveakex hehe ye, that's why I need to do the right choice
[01:48] <prince_j1mmys> LogicFan: add/remove only has some of what's available. it's mostly for popular applications
[01:49] <LogicFan> prince_j1mmys, even if you install popular apps through synaptic, they don't show up in add/remove.  is add/remove just another apt-get gui?
[01:49] <sveakex> Mox`: well debian or centos would be the best choice, ubuntu would also work but i'd put the other two infront
[01:49] <prince_j1mmys> LogicFan: yeah, it's like a simplified synaptic, more "user-friendly", except when it's confusing, like now
[01:50] <LogicFan> prince_j1mmys, gotcha, thanks
[01:50] <brotherhand> my navigation buttons and bookmarks in firefox aren't working, has anybody else experienced this? forums are not helping
[01:50] <Mox`> sveakex can u tell me what's the benefit of using centos? :D
[01:50] <LogicFan> Mox`, distrowatch.org
[01:50] <Scubidus> Hey could someone help me out with installing a Linksys WPC54G on Ubuntu 6.06
[01:50] <jdimond> brotherhand: did you recently do a update?
[01:50] <sveakex> Mox`: um, it is based on red hat enterprise linux, a business oriented linux
[01:50] <sveakex> Mox`: and i think ubuntu is pretty unstable
[01:50] <n8tuserf> LogicFan -> add/remove uses  /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/gnome-app-install   while synaptic runs  /usr/sbin/synaptic
[01:50] <Tamago> uhm.. when I try to start compiz, I get: Checking for nVidia: not present. It then segfaults.. help?
[01:50] <mike_hurley> so is there a known workaround for gnome-screensaver after suspend ignoring user activity?
[01:50] <sveakex> Mox`: on the other hand i have only used ubuntu as a desktop
[01:51] <LogicFan> n8tuserf, thanks!
[01:51] <brotherhand> I have since, but it just started mid-session, before any update
[01:51] <sveakex> brb one minute
[01:51] <jdimond> brotherhand: Did you restart firefox?
[01:51] <Mox`> sveakex ye oke, I think theres a big difference there.. well I've only tried ubuntu and gentoo as server, and gentoo, damn stable, but is pretty hard to configure and setup
[01:52] <LogicFan> n8tuserf, which one is considered best practice for your average desktop ubuntu user?
[01:52] <brotherhand> yes, tried reboot too
[01:52] <LogicFan> n8tuserf, because just about all docs say to use apt-get or synaptic
[01:52] <n8tuserf> LogicFan -> id say synaptic
[01:52] <mike_hurley> i've found that killing and starting gnome-screensaver in a terminal will fix my problem, but i can't get gnome-screensaver to start from within a script
[01:52] <mike_hurley> something about it not being able to open the display
[01:53] <jdimond> brotherhand: Save your bookmarks and try uninstalling firefox and reinstalling.
[01:53] <yuri_> Q: im looking for a gnome-do/kicker like thing for xfce4. any reccs?
[01:53] <azlon> how can i find out what version of linux i am running?
[01:53] <LogicFan> n8tuserf, yeah it seems unfriendly to have add/remove be more prominent in the default menu, but conventional best practices say to use apt-get or synaptic
[01:53] <prince_jammys> LogicFan: synaptic is more comprehensive. there is also aptitude, which can be used instead of apt-get and also has a text-mode interface. try "aptitude" (sudo not necessary just to check it out)
[01:53] <jrib> !version | azlon
[01:53] <n8tuserf> mike_hurley -> could be like cron where it does not have access to a terminal?
[01:53] <brotherhand> ok i'll try it
[01:53] <LogicFan> prince_jammys, thanks
[01:53] <Nytrix> what is a good multiple image compressor for ubuntu?
[01:53] <Scubidus> Does anyone here consider themselves an Ubuntu guru
[01:54] <sveakex> Mox`: i love gentoo, but it is not user friendly which is bad because you are not 100% sure of what you are doing... and it is easy to screw gentoo up :P
[01:54] <Moopies> jdimond, n8tuserf, I'm gonna go try shutting down then restarting now I reckon
[01:54] <jrib> !ask | Scubidus
[01:54] <_VIM_> Nytrix: as stated earlier ImageMagic
[01:54] <Scubidus> I did ask
[01:54] <jdimond> Moopies: Good luck!
[01:54] <Nytrix> vim i try it but didnt work
[01:54] <Moopies> jdimond, May the power of the goat side be with you!
[01:54] <n8tuserf> Moopies -> try that  telinit 6 too, just curious..
[01:54] <Moopies> bahh
[01:54] <sveakex> Mox`: but it is good for a home server or a desktop, and a business server if you are good at it
[01:54] <jrib> Scubidus: ok, this channel is just for ubuntu support.  #ubuntu-offtopic for other conversations.  Thanks
[01:54] <Nytrix> i couldnt even load the program
[01:54] <Scubidus> Hey could someone help me out with installing a Linksys WPC54G on Ubuntu 6.06
[01:54] <Moopies> n8tuserf, If I knew what it did..
[01:54] <mike_hurley> n8tuserf: probably...it's being done within a script in the /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d directory
[01:54] <Moopies> I'd do it
[01:54] <Moopies> lol
[01:55] <n8tuserf> Moopies -> if you google for runlevel, this a common practice of the original unix systems..
[01:55] <mike_hurley> n8tuserf: is there a way to kick off gnome-screensaver in that case?
[01:55] <Mox`> sveakex indeed :D heh
[01:55] <sveakex> Mox`: gentoo is good because of it's speed and because it can do exactly what you want it to
[01:55] <Mox`> exactly.. you chose what will be installed 100%
[01:56] <k33s_> hello ubuntu friends!
[01:56] <n8tuserf> mike_hurley -> i think the get around solution to cron was export the DISPLAY variable and then execute the command
[01:56] <Moopies> n8tuserf, so I just run telinit 6 in a console ?
[01:56] <k33s_> you're all going onto to youtube! :D
[01:56] <sveakex> Mox`: arch is also a really good distro but it would never reccomend it for any other purpose than being a desktop or a HOME server
[01:56] <Nytrix> :)
[01:56] <n8tuserf> Moopies -> run sync several times. though first
[01:56] <Mox`> sveakex okay, never heard of that one :O
[01:56] <_VIM_> Hi youtube! :)  /me waves
[01:56] <Nytrix> what is a good multiple image compressor for ubuntu?
[01:57] <sveakex> Mox`: it gives you control in a simple way at cost of stability and reliability
[01:57] <Scubidus> ubottu: Do you know how to get the drivers for a Linksys WPC54G without the disk and get it working on version 6.06
[01:57] <Moopies> n8tuserf, sync didn't do jack
[01:57] <Mox`> sveakex okay
[01:57] <Nytrix> !Linksys
[01:57] <n8tuserf> Moopies -> you would not see the effect displayed on the screen,  man sync to get an understanding o f wht it does
[01:58] <jrib> !wireless | Scubidus
[01:58] <Moopies> n8tuserf, then you want me to do telinit 6 ?
[01:58] <mike_hurley> n8tuserf: for instance, the line "DISPLAY=:0.0 /usr/bin/gnome-screensaver &" still has the problem
[01:58] <n8tuserf> Moopies -> yes after the sync
[01:58] <n8tuserf> mike_hurley -> export it
[01:58] <Mox`> sveakex have u worked with virtual hosting before?
[01:58] <sveakex> Mox`: no, all i have done is installed gentoo on virtualbox :P
[01:59] <mike_hurley> i thought putting the var on the same line as the command was the equivalent in the scope of that command
[01:59] <sveakex> Mox`: and i had a home server for 2 months
[01:59] <mike_hurley> n8tuserf: i thought putting the var on the same line as the command was the equivalent in the scope of that command
[01:59] <Mox`> sveakex hehe okay, It's because I don't really what's the best solution regarding partitions :O
[01:59] <Mox`> sveakex hehe okay :)
[01:59] <brotherhand> complete removal and reinstall of firefox didn't work, still broken navigation controls
[01:59] <n8tuserf> mike_hurley -> but the command forks a shell?
[01:59] <meoblast001> a few emulators on my system won't make sound... what should i do?
[01:59] <Titan8990> Mox`, for stability, ext3 accross the board
[01:59] <sveakex> Mox`: virtual machines have their own "hard disk" file afaik
[01:59] <Titan8990> Mox`, for increase speed, reiserfs for rootfs
[02:00] <provo> hi can i get some help please, when I try running synaptic package manager this is the error i get.......E: Type '<html>' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[02:00] <Mox`> Titan8990, okay, how big shoud swap and boot be?
[02:00] <provo> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[02:00] <provo> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[02:00] <provo> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[02:00] <FloodBot1> provo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:00] <Mox`> Titan8990, 4gb swap, 512mb boot?
[02:00] <n8tuserf> mike_hurley -> heres a reference for cron  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-105250.html
[02:00] <sveakex> Titan8990: but he needs stability so isn't ext3 better?
[02:00] <Titan8990> Mox`, the standard is 2x the RAM but really, 4gb is a big swap partition
[02:00] <Titan8990> sveakex, yes
[02:01] <Mox`> Titan8990n, the machine have 2gb of ram
[02:01] <sveakex> Titan8990: afterall it is a business and not a home server..
[02:01] <Titan8990> Mox`, and 512 is perfectly fine for boot
[02:01] <Titan8990> Mox`, if you plan to do a lot a webserver stuff, you may want to have the server root on its own partition
[02:01] <sveakex> Titan8990: why 512 for a boot partition? the kernal and those files don't take more than 50mb
[02:02] <Mox`> Titan8990, what do you mean? :O
[02:02] <sveakex> kernel*
[02:02] <Titan8990> sveakex, mine is only 30mb, but a bit larger doesn't hurt
[02:02] <Titan8990> Mox`, if this is primarly a web server, you may want a partition for /var/www
[02:02] <Mox`> Titan8990, the basic system on one parition and everything else on a partition with rest of the space?
[02:03] <Mox`> Titan8990, ye oke, the server shall run dns, mail, db and apache ofc
[02:03] <chronic> can someone help get a movie to play?
[02:03] <ldlework> If this is my cfdisk output : http://ldlework.pastebin.com/m133dd964 : How can I give sda1 some of the gigs of sda2? I am currently running mounted sda5
[02:03] <sveakex> Titan8990: 512 is a bit larger? :P if he has 50mb packages he loses 8 customers :P
[02:03] <Mox`> Titan8990, so I should make a partition with the base system on it? or?
[02:03] <n8tuserf> chronic -> i used vlc and am happy with it
[02:03] <whalesalad> Hey guys. Have a feisty box that can't seem to do anything at all with apt-get. Looking at the sources file, it appears all of the source url's 404. Is feisty no longer supported or something? http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[02:03] <Titan8990> Mox`, yes, that is a requirement
[02:03] <chronic> n8tuserf, i have that , still not working
[02:04] <SuperMoopies> n8tuserf, that shut the computer down and restarted
[02:04] <ldlework> If this is my cfdisk output : http://ldlework.pastebin.com/m133dd964 : How can I give sda1 some of the gigs of sda2? I am currently running mounted sda5
[02:04] <n8tuserf> SuperMoopies -> okay, isnt that what you wanted?
[02:04] <Mox`> Titan8990, how big should the base system be then?
[02:04] <Titan8990> Mox`, I would make it about 50-100GB
[02:04] <Titan8990> Mox`, use the rest for /home and /var/www
[02:04] <sveakex> ldlework: try using gparted
[02:04] <SuperMoopies> n8tuserf, yes, and shut down
[02:04] <Titan8990> Mox`, 50-100GB
[02:04] <josher4> !compiz
[02:04] <FloodBot1> Titan8990: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:05] <Dethroned> sveakex: well it didn't work lol
[02:05] <Mox`> Titan8990 50gb just for the system :O?
[02:05] <ROXYMOON> ciao
[02:05] <sveakex> Dethroned: so what is the situation?
[02:05] <ROXYMOON> !list
[02:05] <Titan8990> Mox`, applications don't take that much space
[02:05] <Dethroned> sveakex:  The computer refuses to boot from the usb drive
[02:05] <Mox`> is a tmp parition nessarary?
[02:05] <SuperMoopies> n8tuserf, how would I do 'shutdown' ?
[02:05] <n8tuserf> SuperMoopies -> but do you still get the no IDE something found?
[02:05] <Titan8990> Mox`, most would recommend less than that
[02:05] <SuperMoopies> n8tuserf, negative
[02:05] <n8tuserf> SuperMoopies -> i use  sudo shutdown -h now
[02:06] <Mox`> Titan8990 okay, so 20gb space should be fine for the system?
[02:06] <sveakex> Dethroned: is usb the first item in the boot priority list in the bios?
[02:06] <Mox`> Titan8990, 20gb for all the programs etc. right? :)
[02:06] <Titan8990> Mox`, should be, but I personally wouldn't make it that small, especially with how cheap storage is these days
[02:06] <sveakex> Mox`: what is the question now? :P
[02:06] <Dethroned> sveakex:  I set is at #1 for priority in the boot sequence window dealy in the bios
[02:06] <n8tuserf> SuperMoopies -> well thats good that the problem of missing ide devices has been resolved eh?
[02:06] <Mox`> Titan8990 ye oke
[02:06] <devilsF00d> Hi I'm having some serious issues I switched internet providers today and I just got my servers back online but I'm having some sever slowness connecting to my webserver intermittently... I've also been getting lots of log messages on my router saying that it blocked packet ... blah blah  wrong network interface (IP address spoofing)... This goes away as soon as I take the ubuntu server off the network
[02:07] <Titan8990> Mox`, tmp partition is your call, I have never used one but I have only had one CMS that stored files in /tmp and it wasn't in a production env
[02:07] <sveakex> Dethroned: well.. i never booted with the usb before so you should ask somebody else who knows how to make it work :/
[02:07] <ROXYMOON> ciao
[02:07] <Mox`> sveakex I'm making the partitions :) is a tmp partition needed? ::O
[02:07] <ROXYMOON> !list
[02:07] <Dethroned> sveakex:  I'll just wait for my cd to come in the mail and hope my compy can boot from that
[02:07] <Dethroned> I don't want to mess around with this any more tonight lol
[02:07] <sveakex> Dethroned: ok :)
[02:07] <Mox`> Titan8990 so I should just screw the tmp partition? :)
[02:07] <Dethroned> sveakex: Thanks for the help though
[02:07] <curtisab> Hello, I need help! I cannot get Flash 10 to run in Firefox on Ubuntu 8.10. Have tried to download it and install it, but it won't work! Any tips?
[02:08] <sveakex> Mox`: isn't tmp just for temporary files?
[02:08] <n8tuserf> devilsF00d -> how does the ubuntu host come into the picture? perhaps you can explain what you are hosting on? and what the network layout is like?
[02:08] <Mox`> sveakex I think so :)
[02:08] <ldlework> Titan8990, you seem to be giving some partitioning advice. Do you have any ideas for me?
[02:08] <SuperMoopies> n8tuserf, I reckon , let me try shutdown
[02:08] <sveakex> Mox`: just make your / larger x)
[02:08] <whalesalad> Hey guys, apt-get no longer working on a feisty box. It's not mine... its a small SVN server in our office that I am working with. All the sources 404. Any ideas? Is there some vanilla sources.list file I can replace mine with?
[02:08] <sveakex> Mox`: i'd make it 30gb large
[02:09] <Mox`> sveakex, root? :)
[02:09] <Titan8990> ldlework, sorry, I didn't see what you were asking
[02:09] <ldlework> My original question was
[02:09] <sveakex> Mox`: yeah the partition mounted on /
[02:09] <ldlework> If this is my cfdisk output : http://ldlework.pastebin.com/m133dd964 : How can I give sda1 some of the gigs of sda2? I am currently running mounted sda5
[02:09] <jrib> whalesalad: feisty is End Of Life
[02:09] <jrib> !eol | whalesalad
[02:09] <ldlework> gparted says it can't read the contents of the ntfs partitions
[02:09] <sveakex> ldlework: use gparted
[02:09] <Mox`> sveakex ye oke
[02:09] <ldlework> and hence can only delete them, not resize
[02:09] <sveakex> ldlework: gparted
[02:09] <whalesalad> jrib: I was looking for an answer like that. Does that mean I can no longer use apt-get at all with it? What are my options here? Surely I don't need to upgrade the box?
[02:09] <Titan8990> ldlework, it is likely that you can't
[02:09] <Mox`> should I use rest of the space for /home or /var?
[02:10] <ldlework> sveakex, I just said that I am using gparted X|
[02:10] <Titan8990> ldlework, because data gets written to the beginning of a partition
[02:10] <Mox`> /var/www or something
[02:10] <Titan8990> ldlework, the space you want to give to sda1, will already have stuff on it from sda2
[02:10] <ldlework> If I delete the sda2 ?
[02:10] <brotherhand> solution: the missing firefox navigation controls is caused by corrupted profile.ini. delete it and firefox will make a new one that works
[02:10] <sveakex> ldlework: oh, make on smaller and then the other bigger :P
[02:10] <brotherhand> thanks!
[02:10] <Titan8990> ldlework, then yes, you should be able to give that size to sda1
[02:10] <jrib> whalesalad: it doesn't make sense to run a box without updates.  You should upgrade
[02:10] <jrib> !upgrade | whalesalad
[02:10] <Titan8990> ldlework, using parted or whatever GUI frontend for parted you want
[02:11] <Gargantua> Hi
[02:11] <whalesalad> jrib: Alright, thanks for the tips. My only worry here is that this is a server which is pretty important in my company right now. What kind of risks do I have with doing this? It's a headless machine, no gui or anything...
[02:11] <Supermoopies> n8tuserf, jdimond : still happens on shutdown , i repeat SHUTDOWN , not restart
[02:11] <sveakex> Mox`: make the rest of the space go where you have the webhosting stuff
[02:11] <Gargantua> Does the mysql-server apt package include all the C header files?
[02:11] <Supermoopies> (so it hasn't been fixed )
[02:11] <ldlework> Titan8990, deleting sda2 did not allow me to resize sda1 =x
[02:11] <Mox`> sveakex ye, I just don't know what directory I should use :D
[02:12] <jrib> whalesalad: should be fine, that's not really a special case
[02:12] <Titan8990> ldlework, using what?
[02:12] <ldlework> gparted
[02:12] <sveakex> Mox`: it's not so important which directory you use.. just aslong as you know it and it's on the right partition
[02:12] <Mox`> sveakex ye oke, i'll just use /home
[02:12] <ldlework> gparted reports for sda1 (where windows is installed) "Unable to read contents of this filesystem! Because of this some operations may be unavailable."
[02:13] <jrib> whalesalad: personally, I'd make an image of the drive just in case, then upgrade to gutsy, then to hardy (this way you have support on the server until 2013)
[02:13] <regeya_> anyone here using ext4 yet?  curious to know if it's even remotely sfe yet
[02:13] <regeya_> safe even
[02:13] <sveakex> Mox`: on my home server i moved apache or lighttpd root folder to a folder inside /home from /srv
[02:13] <whalesalad> jrib: It's fairly basic... all our data is backed up to S3 nightly. I'll do some looking around though before I do anything. Thanks for your help.
[02:13] <ldlework> Titan8990, could it be because sda1 is flagged as boot?
[02:14] <Mox`> sveakex, ye oke
[02:14] <Titan8990> ldlework, possible, you could try removing the boot flag, but I don't recommend doing anything until all your data is backed up
[02:14] <devilsF00d> ok so I have a lnksys switch with several lan computers connected to it and a d-link router connected to the switch twice, internet in from switch, and one from port one on d-link.  Then I have a free-nas server connected to the switch on eth-0 and the router on eth-1, and finally the ubuntu server connected to the router on eth-0 with ip 192... and to the switch with ip 98... (from net provider); the Router is on the same 98. but di
[02:14] <ldlework> That didn't work either
[02:14] <Mox`> sveakex now it's installing :D
[02:14] <jrib> whalesalad: the update link will give you working feisty repos so you can get up to date before upgrading, but it is a pretty bad idea to keep an unsupported version on there
[02:14] <Titan8990> ldlework, removing the boot flag didn't
[02:14] <sveakex> Mox`: with ubuntu? debian? centos?
[02:14] <devilsF00d> sorry that is crazy but it's the best I could gather from this inherited set up
[02:14] <ldlework> Titan8990, correct.
[02:14] <Mox`> sveakex debian x64 minimal :D
[02:14] <Mox`> 5.0
[02:15] <ldlework> Titan8990, I don't need to apply the deletion of sda2 to make that effective right?
[02:15] <Titan8990> ldlework, can you mount the windows partition? is marked as "locked"?
[02:15] <devilsF00d> oh and the broadband modem is in the swtich also
[02:15] <Titan8990> ldlework, not to make it effective, to make it actually happen, yes
[02:15] <ldlework> Titan8990, I can mount sda1 just fine from Ubuntu and use it freely.
[02:15] <ldlework> It is not currently mounted
[02:15] <Mox`> sveakex It's my first time using their rescue system :D so' its a bit exciting if this works
[02:16] <dancho> helo
[02:16] <dancho> any from cuba?
[02:16] <MrZ> http://paste.ubuntu.com/123108
[02:16] <sveakex> Mox`: installing from rescue systems is fun, that's how i always install linux :P
[02:17] <Mox`> sveakex, hehe last time I tried something just as exciting were when I recompiled the kernel :D damn I was screwed if the kernel was fucked hehe
[02:17] <_VIM_> !ohmy | Mox`
[02:17] <sveakex> Mox`: i don't like configuring and recompiling the kernel... i don't know what parts i need and what i don't... :(
[02:18] <n8tuserf> devilsF00d -> perhaps  a drawing of the layout would be easier to follow, put as much info on it so we can sort out and trace where the packet goes trhough and mention were is the firewalling in it too
[02:18] <milk> sveakex, thats part of the fun :D
[02:18] <Mox`> sveakex hehe okay, the standard kernel I got with the server really stinked.. it wasn't running the right cpu frequency and alot of unnessarary stuff was enabled :S
[02:19] <n8tuserf> dancho -> are you chatting now from cuba?  great to hear if you are
[02:19] <sveakex> milk: yeah, but my kernel was always much larger than everybody elses *cries*
[02:19] <sveakex> Mox`: was linux reinstalled?
[02:19] <_VIM_> cuba has interwebs? O.o
[02:19] <Mox`> sveakex ye ubuntu 8.04 x64
[02:20] <devilsF00d> k
[02:20] <Supermoopies> n8tuserf, jdimond : perhaps I want 0 instead of 6 with telinit ?
[02:20] <dancho> interwebs?
[02:20] <sveakex> Mox`: computers should come without an os imo :P
[02:20] <dancho> i think so
[02:20] <n8tuserf> _VIM_ -> we should welcome them, if this is their chance to get into the freeworld eh? :P
[02:20] <Supermoopies> n8tuserf, jdimond if i wanted to do it manually
[02:20] <_VIM_> dancho: hehe cool
[02:20] <Mox`> sveakex hehe, well I wanted to try ubuntu :D
[02:20] <devilsF00d> is there somewhere I can reference standard network symbols?
[02:20] <_VIM_> n8tuserf: it would be a change if nothing else.
[02:20] <sveakex> linux goes commie again
[02:20] <sveakex> X)
[02:21] <n8tuserf> Supermoopies -> try it, also try  runlevel  command instead of telinit
[02:21] <Platypus-Man> I'm trying to install irssi IRC client, I ran sudo apt-get install irrsi, and it appears it succeeded - but the program is not listed under Applications - Internet, or anywhere else for that matter
[02:21] <dancho> i have a question
[02:21] <Supermoopies> ok
[02:21] <_VIM_> Platypus-Man: you have to type irssi in terminal, better yet screen irssi
[02:21] <n8tuserf> devilsF00d -> just a box, and a label it as router or switch or whatever is enuff
[02:21] <sveakex> Mox`: hehe, i remember that either the sound or flash kept breaking for me on 8.04 or 7.10, i remember having issues with youtube X)
[02:22] <Mox`> hehe
[02:22] <n8tuserf> dancho -> ask away
[02:22] <_VIM_> Platypus-Man: once you're on irssi then /server irc.freenode.org
[02:22] <sveakex> Mox`: if ubuntu can't do youtube i wouldn't use it as a production server :P
[02:22] <Mox`> sveakex damn!! before my I had 427gb free on my /, now my /home is 838gb :O
[02:22] <Mox`> sveakex hehe true :D
[02:22] <Platypus-Man> _VIM_: thank you, seems like that was what I were looking for :)
[02:22] <sveakex> Mox`: how big is / now?
[02:22] <_VIM_> :)
[02:22] <Mox`> sveakex root is 30gb and /home is 838gb
[02:23] <_VIM_> geeze must be nice to have that much space, i got a 40 gig hdd ;((((
[02:23] <sveakex> Mox`: hehe, who is your target audience?
[02:23] <sveakex> _VIM_: but you are not a webhost ;P
[02:23] <Mox`> sveakex people who doesn't need a file hosting server, but a webhotel where they get almost everything :D
[02:23] <_VIM_> meh i used to have a home server actually, but that's offtopic
[02:23] <Mox`> sveakex, ½gb and 1gb of space so far
[02:24] <sveakex> Mox`: 500mb and 1gb packages?
[02:24] <Sw3RvE> when i try to boot my usb flash drive i get Invalid or damaged Bootable partition. How do i fix this?
[02:24] <Mox`> sveakex ye for now it is
[02:24] <sveakex> Mox`: imagine how much effort you need to put in if you are going to have many customer
[02:24] <sveakex> s
[02:24] <sveakex> :P
[02:25] <Stumbles>  _    _ _ _     _
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[02:25] <Stumbles>  | |/ / | | |   | |/ _ \ \ /\ / / __|
[02:25] <FloodBot1> Stumbles: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:25] <Sw3RvE> can someone help me with a bootable usb drive
[02:26] <Mox`> sveakex hehe, If the system is made right, I should be able to let the server run it self
[02:26] <Stumbles>  _    _ _ _     _
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[02:26] <FloodBot1> Stumbles: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:26] <Stumbles>               |__/
[02:26]  * regeya_ facepalm
[02:26] <Mox`> sveakex ofc I need to update the system one in while, but not that often
[02:26] <_VIM_> jrib ^^^^]
[02:26] <dancho> is about the next LTS version
[02:26] <dancho> will be the 9.10?
[02:26] <_VIM_> nope
[02:26] <fearful> dancho, no the next LTS is scheduled 10.4
[02:26] <_VIM_> 10.04
[02:27] <fearful> yea 10.04*
[02:27] <dancho> thanks.. that will be in server edition to?
[02:27] <bohemian_> can anyone explain me this error?
[02:27] <bohemian_> Xlib: extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:27] <bohemian_> thanks...
[02:27] <sveakex> Mox`: yeah be careful about that, i hate it when they add new features which break old configs so you have to modify it create a new one *cough* awesome wm *cough*
[02:27] <Mox`> sveakex haha apt-get also works in debian :D
[02:27] <Stumbles>  _    _ _ _     _
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[02:27] <FloodBot1> Stumbles: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:27] <Mox`> sveakex true
[02:27] <sveakex> Mox`: you mean it also works in ubuntu? ;P
[02:27] <n8tuserf> dancho -> you were going to ask a question?
[02:27] <regeya_> !ops
[02:27] <_VIM_> !ops | Stumbles + ascii art X3
[02:27] <Stumbles> | |/ / | | |   | |/ _ \ \ /\ / / __|
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[02:27] <FloodBot1> Stumbles: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:28] <_VIM_> x4 now
[02:28] <Mox`> sveakex hehe ye oke :D
[02:28] <dancho> my question was that my friend
[02:28] <dancho> :-)
[02:28] <sveakex> Mox`: debian is the mother of like 30 distros or so :P
[02:28] <Mox`> sveakex, nice, only 17 processes, before there were 85 :S
[02:28] <sveakex> Mox`: 85 in ubuntu?
[02:28] <n8tuserf> dancho  what?
[02:28] <Mox`> sveakex hehe nice :P didn't even know that,.. I knew that ubuntu is made on debian
[02:28] <Mox`> sveakex, ye
[02:28] <fearful> Mox`, I got 132, how did you drop them?
[02:29] <Mox`> fearful clean install of debian :O
[02:29] <dancho> about the next LTs version
[02:29] <sveakex> Mox`: install htop and tell me how much ram you are using :P
[02:29] <dancho> and i have an answer
[02:29] <Mox`> fearful only sdd, rsyslogd, acpid and cron is running
[02:29] <dancho> thanks to all you gays
[02:29] <Mox`> sveakex i'm looking in htop :D
[02:30] <fearful> Mox`, nice
[02:30] <sveakex> Mox`: btw you should use aptitude to install instead of apt-get, apparently aptitude resolves dependancies better :s
[02:30] <Mox`> fearful heh ye.. just wait till I install all the other programs :S
[02:30] <Mox`> sveakex okay :)
[02:30] <Titan8990> sveakex, Mox` yes, aptitude makes "smarter" descisions then apt-get
[02:30] <dancho> bye bye
[02:31] <Mox`> Titan8990, okay, does it work just the same as apt-get?
[02:31] <sveakex> Mox`: yes almost
[02:31] <fearful> Mox`, yea:p
[02:31] <Mox`> sveakex okay, something I should watch out for?
[02:31] <Juravial> Lol, I am definitely not cut out for Linux ... lived in the windows world too long
[02:32] <sveakex> Mox`: not what i know of
[02:32] <Mox`> sveakex, oke :)
[02:32] <sveakex> Mox`: there might be a few flags which are different or so
[02:32] <narcarsiss> juravial it is easy once you get you head out of Windows
[02:32] <sveakex> Mox`: but it is more or less the same, just better
[02:32] <Titan8990> Mox`, no, aptitude actually calls apt-get
[02:32] <Mox`> Titan8990, can't i clean up all unnessarary stuff? :O
[02:32] <Mox`> Titan8990 oke :D
[02:32] <Titan8990> Mox`, yes
[02:33] <Mox`> sveakex ye oke
[02:33] <Mox`> Titan8990, how? :)
[02:33] <narcarsiss> everyone can do linux if i can teach my 9YO syster to be my linux admin you can learn
[02:33] <sveakex> i hardly use linux these days... i need.. my.. games..
[02:33] <sveakex> x)
[02:33] <Titan8990> Mox`, aptitude remove applicationidontneed
[02:33] <narcarsiss> apt-get moo
[02:33] <Titan8990> Mox`, or update-rc remove programidontwantoautostart -f
[02:33] <sveakex> narcarsiss: that's an awesome command
[02:33] <baz> how can check the health and status of my software RAID that i installed using the alternate installer
[02:34] <Platypus-Man> _VIM_: I tried to reading the start-up manual for irssi, but didn't understand much... I connected to Quakenet, and then when I connected to Freenode it disconnected me from the first network
[02:34] <narcarsiss> yeah i know was reading the apt man and found it
[02:34] <RBrenner> hello?
[02:34] <Titan8990> !mdam | baz
[02:34] <Titan8990> !raid | baz
[02:34] <Mox`> Titan8990, I was thinking of a autocleaner or something like that
[02:34] <fluvvell> baz: cat /proc/mdstat
[02:34] <Titan8990> baz, check out the software raid wiki page
[02:34] <RBrenner> quick question
[02:34] <Titan8990> Mox`, there really shouldn't be that much crap, especially if you used the minimal installer
[02:34] <RBrenner> im using UNetbootin to make a Bootable USB
[02:35] <moni> hii
[02:35] <Juravial> I tried reading the forums on how to install the driver and firmware for ipw2200... I am a fairly intelligent person, but I am truely humbled ..I feel stupid right now
[02:35] <Mox`> Titan8990, ye oke
[02:35] <RBrenner> when i go to boot it, it says "syslinux 3.63 debian 2008 07 15 ebios... peter anvin" and prompts me to boot
[02:35] <moni> is ther any tool 2 hide my ip?
[02:35] <_VIM_> Platypus-Man: well i think you have to do /server irc.freenode.org then once connected you do /connect irc.quakenet.net/org that should do the trick, then you do ctrl+x to toggle them i think
[02:35] <fluvvell> rtfm is becoming a familiar answer around here.
[02:35] <RBrenner> nothing i type results in anything
[02:35] <RBrenner> anyone have any ideas?
[02:35] <moni> i tried squid proxy....but it doesnt hide the ip
[02:36] <baz> fluvvell, would it tell me in there if there were errors or problems? it shows the setup, which is cool, but no the health
[02:36] <_VIM_> i switched to Konversation a while back,,,Platypus-Man so Im a bit rusty with irssi :)
[02:36] <baz> it would be nice to have a little sys-tray applet that monitored my RAID
[02:36] <mikewu> Platypus-Man: it probably didn't disconnect you, it probably just made one default. usually you can add a -server flag so /j -freenode #ubuntu
[02:36] <moni> pls help
[02:36] <n8tuserf> RBrenner -> you read the tutorial on how to install unetbootin?
[02:36] <sveakex> did anybody write to me?
[02:36] <niku> hello room - I just got a dell mini9 and was looking for any recommendations to make better use of screen realestate - any suggestions?
[02:36] <mikewu> Platypus-Man: you can check what your connected to with /server too
[02:36] <bohemian_> anyone has an answer for me?
[02:36] <bohemian_> regarding Xlib: extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:36] <sveakex> i screwed cgywin up :P
[02:36] <RBrenner> no, it seemed pretty self explanatory but i guess not?
[02:37] <chronic> can someone help me to play xvid movie?
[02:37] <narcarsiss> for those that want to keep linux clean read this [but be warned that you can brake packages when removing the so make sure you know what you are doing]  http://maketecheasier.com/8-ways-to-maintain-a-clean-lean-ubuntu-machine/2008/10/07
[02:37] <sveakex> who had issues with irssi?
[02:37] <_VIM_> Platypus-Man: you can always type /help when inside irssi too
[02:37] <narcarsiss> chronic: i can
[02:37] <RBrenner> n8userf: what tutorial are you referring to?
[02:37] <fluvvell> baz: are you on a desktop or server?
[02:38] <chronic> narcarsiss, whenever i open it all the players crash, or quit i guess
[02:38] <|ns|nR8> anyone know if its possible to mount FATX ( xbox fs )
[02:38] <moni> is ther any tool 2 hide my ip.....?
[02:38] <curtisab> Anybody able to help me get Flash 10 working on Firefox / ubuntu 8.10
[02:38] <sveakex> Platypus-Man: did you have issues with irssi?
[02:38] <chronic> totem, vlc,
[02:38] <narcarsiss> have you tryed VLC player
[02:38] <chronic> yes
[02:38] <hmw> moni - no.
[02:39] <narcarsiss> Totem?
[02:39] <chronic> yes
[02:39] <narcarsiss> and they all crash
[02:39] <chronic> yup
[02:39] <Platypus-Man> _VIM_: ctrl+x worked changing from freenode\quakenet, but then I joined a quakenet channel and now nothing happens when I press ctrl+x anymore
[02:39] <threefcata> how to see if a kernel module is compiled or not?
[02:39] <baz> fluvvell, desktop
[02:39] <Platypus-Man> oh wait, saw what you said about server flag now
[02:39] <RBrenner> does anyone have any experience using UNetbootin on Linux?
[02:39] <sveakex> Platypus-Man: use alt and a number to switch rooms
[02:39] <fluvvell> baz: mdstat would tell you if it was faulty, or if rebuilding anyway.
[02:40] <narcarsiss> do you have compix installed
[02:40] <sveakex> Platypus-Man: and queries
[02:40] <_VIM_> Platypus-Man: to change channels yiou have to do ESC+ a number  (the number the channel is on) or ALT as sveakex suggested
[02:40] <Platypus-Man> sveakex: that works, thanks
[02:40] <narcarsiss> compiz*
[02:40] <_VIM_> Platypus-Man:  type /help inside irssi
[02:40] <sveakex> Platypus-Man: to change network be in the first window and do control x, you can also type /win 1 to switch to the first window
[02:41] <_VIM_> Platypus-Man: also you can set a million options by typing /set
[02:41] <baz> fluvvell, should i be checking it everyday or something, I don't want to be left in the dark one day because 1 of the drives had failed 6 months ago
[02:41] <narcarsiss> if you have compiz/fusion installed disable it then try again
[02:41] <sveakex> Mox`: you stull there?
[02:41] <platypus2> success! thanks guys :)
[02:41] <Mox`> sveakex ye ofc :)
[02:41] <_VIM_> np
[02:41] <sveakex> Mox`: how's it going with the server?
[02:41] <Huufarted> Anybody able to tell me how you can tell the link speed on a network adapter?  Not the current bandwidth being used, but the speed it's connected at?
[02:41] <cjckill> lag
[02:41] <Mox`> sveakex setting up sudo :)
[02:41] <sveakex> Mox`: that's easy :P
[02:41] <narcarsiss> 1344 users could be helping to lag
[02:42] <Mox`> sveakex hehe, haven't done it that many times, but ye, i'm adding the user :)
[02:42] <sveakex> Mox`: if you have sudo set up you can remove the root password making it impossible to log in as root, with the exception of sudo su ;)
[02:42] <remu> Heya folks! I've got a quick question. I've been trying out this new program, f.lux, I want to run it at the start of my session. How can I do so? It is a single executable. Normally, to run it, I have to type "/.xflux -z <zipcode>". Any ideas on how to run it at the start of my session?
[02:42]  * kdubois hates computers
[02:42] <Platypus-Man> I have a printscreen from last time I was here, 1337 users
[02:42] <RBrenner> does anyone here have any experience using UNetbootin in LInux?
[02:42] <sveakex> Mox`: everybody in the wheel group has access to sudo afaik
[02:42] <crazyryan_a> Is there anyway I can execute a cron as nobody?
[02:42] <Mox`> sveakex that's right, and that' what I intended to do :D
[02:42] <baz> Huufarted, if you right-click the sys-tray icon and choose "connection properties" it should tell you there
[02:42] <narcarsiss> chronic: > if you have compiz/fusion installed disable it then try again
[02:42] <threefcata> how to see if a kernel module is compiled or not?
[02:43] <prince_jammys> sveakex: 'admin' in ubuntu
[02:43] <Huufarted> Thanks, baz.  :)
[02:43] <chronic> narcarsiss, ok
[02:43] <sveakex> Mox`: yeah. that is one very good security standard in ubuntu
[02:43] <redvamp128> curtisab:  quick and easy-- remove any of the others you installed (gnash) -- then goto software sources- enable the multiverse and the restricted. close and let it reload-- then open up synaptic package manger and flash should then be listed there - (or after you enable you can use this 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree')
[02:43] <Mox`> sveakex I can just change so root cannot login through ssh
[02:43] <baz> Huufarted, pleasure
[02:43] <sveakex> prince_jammys: admin..? :P
[02:43] <Mox`> sveakex true :)
[02:43] <prince_jammys> sveakex: 'wheel' in some other distros/BSDs
[02:43] <fluvvell> baz: i've got software raid systems over 6 years old now, just upgraded one of them to 320Gb without fuss
[02:43] <sveakex> prince_jammys: oh, i almost never use ubuntu, i just enjoy being here to help other people
[02:44] <sveakex> :P
[02:44] <prince_jammys> sveakex: cool
[02:44] <fluvvell> baz: I just troll the logs occasionally.  I assume you mean mirrored raid 1 ?
[02:44] <narcarsiss> chronic: also if you have rythembox open close it [it's a bug that has not been addressed yet]
[02:44] <baz> fluvvell, i have raid5
[02:44] <sveakex> prince_jammys: the distros are different, but in the end, all distros can use the same programs and ultimately.. it's all linux :)
[02:44] <fluvvell> baz: even better :-)
[02:44] <fluvvell> baz, how many drives
[02:45] <baz> fluvvell, so check the logs every once a while eh, that kinda suxks no :)
[02:45] <sveakex> Mox`: how do you set up virtual hosts?
[02:45] <baz> fluvvell, 4
[02:45] <devilsF00d> http://jon.iwsdev.com/jungleMap.png
[02:45] <Mox`> sveakex dno yet :)
[02:45] <Mox`> sveakex But i've found a good guide
[02:45] <narcarsiss> sveakex: hold on i have a link for you
[02:45] <Mox`> sveakex I also need quota first :O
[02:46] <remu> Anyone know how I can run an executable at startup? I normally run it by typing "./xflux -z <zipcode>" in the terminal
[02:46] <fluvvell> baz, yep. You should check out the page that ubotu recommended. I've only used them on servers so far, so not on my desktop, i've heard of developments that may be of use, probably gparted for one.
[02:46] <akorn> hey can anybody help me when i reboot i end up in terminal and can't get out of it
[02:46] <akorn> or when i boot up*
[02:46] <narcarsiss> sveakex: http://articles.slicehost.com/2008/12/17/ubuntu-intrepid-apache-virtual-hosts-1/
[02:46] <baz> fluvvell, ok thanks for helping out, i'll check em out
[02:46] <salmon> hey real quick question that someone may or may not have the answer to. so my friend has a mac, i know nothing about them. he is trying to download the World of Warcraft addon "questhelper" and he can't figure out how to get it to load anyone know?
[02:46] <fluvvell> baz, which version of ubuntu?
[02:47] <baz> fluvvell, 8.10
[02:47] <Nytrix> !best
[02:47] <jrib> salmon: ask the osx channel
[02:47] <fluvvell> baz, definitely look at gparted.
[02:47] <akorn> it says "trying to resume from /dev/disk/by-uuid/etc..... then it says "No resume image, doing normal boot" and goes to terminal screen instead of the GUI
[02:47] <Supermoobies> n8tuserf, jdimond , it's still screwing up
[02:47] <Mox`> hmm, how do I add something to boot? :O
[02:47] <Supermoobies> n8tuserf, jdimond , could I just remove all of the switches for halt ?
[02:47] <Supermoobies> n8tuserf, jdimond , and try that
[02:47] <fluvvell> !raid
[02:48] <fsufitch> hey, is there a way to easily make "contect sheets" out of a photo directory in ubuntu (print 30 thumbnails per page)? the way that windows picture and fax viewer can do it
[02:48] <RBrenner> does anyone here have any experience using UNetbootin in Linux?
[02:48] <darkhelmetlive> remu: define at startup. OS startup or login/startup?
[02:48] <devilsF00d> ?
[02:48] <sveakex> narcarsiss: that doesn't seem to so awfully difficult, can i create subdomains that way?
[02:48] <remu> login, start of the session
[02:48] <Huufarted> GRRRRR....  just  upgraded the entire network infrastructure in my house...  and my laptop that I use the most I just realized it wasn't gigabit
[02:48] <darkhelmetlive> remu: in gnome you can go System->Preferences->Session and configure things
[02:48] <Huufarted> so everything but my laptop is capable of gigabit...
[02:48] <crazyryan_a> How do I list all the folders in the current dir?
[02:48] <narcarsiss> as far as i know yes but i'm on debian and it took me ages to get it working
[02:49] <Huufarted> crazyryan_a, ls -ld *
[02:49] <remu> darkhelmetlive, I know I can do that. But what should I put in the command?
[02:49] <SirGrok> Hello channel, I am wanting to install Ubuntu on my Motion Computing m1300 [tablet pc, without an ODD]... How do Ii properly go abouts doing this?
[02:49] <french> hey how is the best way to netboot ubuntu with pxe?
[02:49] <Huufarted> crazyryan_a, ls -ld
[02:49] <_VIM_> crazyryan_a: Folders is a windows term :P
[02:49] <darkhelmetlive> remu: if the command is in your path, you should be able to just put in what you type on the command line
[02:50] <sveakex> Mox`: hehe, do you think it is possible to set a lot of things automatically? like creating the virtualhost, mysql account and such
[02:50] <prince_jammys> ls -ld *  is the same as ls -l
[02:50] <Huufarted> bah, ls -ld apparently isn't the one in Ubuntu.  It is in SCO...  doh!
[02:50] <prince_jammys> ls -d */ for only dirs
[02:50] <remu> darkhelmetlive, It is a lone executable that I downloaded off of the internet. It is currently sitting in a folder called "Startup" in my home folder.
[02:50] <Mox`> sveakex I'm planning to write a perl backend for the system, so I can control everything from a controlpanel :)
[02:50] <SirGrok> I've come across instructions to get the wacom/stylus functionality up and operational, but I do not know how to initially get the OS onto the unit [I have a ubs to ide bridge at my disposal]
[02:51] <remu> darkhelmetlive, I normally do "cd ~/Startup" then "./xflux -z 32065"
[02:51] <darkhelmetlive> remu: then, if you browse it should put in the full path. otherwise, just type in the absolute path to the file
[02:51] <sveakex> Mox`: awesome :) btw what is your guide?
[02:51] <remu> Do I need to put in a dot somewhere in there?
[02:51] <Mox`> sveakex for the virtual apache server? :)
[02:51] <oh_noes> In my sudoers, why does "Cmnd_Alias CHOWN = /bin/chown" work, BUT "Cmnd_Alias CHOWN = /bin/chown -R root:root /foo/bar" doesn't work?
[02:51] <akorn> can anybody help me figure out why ubuntu is loading straight to terminal?!?!
[02:51] <oh_noes> says parsing error
[02:51] <sveakex> Mox`: yeah
[02:52] <sveakex> Mox`: is it the one narcarsiss sent me?
[02:52] <Mox`> sveakex found it on the internet, want' the link?
[02:52] <remu> darkhelmetlive, well, I tried with browse, hope it works
[02:52] <sveakex> Mox`: sure
[02:52] <sveakex> :)
[02:52] <remu> darkhelmetlive, thanks for your help
[02:52] <redvamp128> akorn:  what did you do prior to that (install a video driver) or is this a fresh install?
[02:53] <akorn> i uninstalled/reinstalled ALSA
[02:53] <crazyryan_a> Is there anyway I can search folder and file names for a string and return the path to them in terminal?
[02:53] <akorn> redvamp i uninstalled/reinstalled ALSA and i also ran autoremove i think it removed some old kernel settings or something im not sure wasn't really paying attentino heh
[02:54] <darkhelmetlive> can i configure network manager to use different dhclient.conf configs for different interfaces?
[02:54] <_VIM_> crazyryan_a: locate <file> or <dir>
[02:54] <Huufarted> crazyryan_a:  find /foldername -name "filename" -print
[02:54] <fsufitch> is there a way to print 30 small thumbnails of pictures per page? f-spot only lets me to up to 9 pictures per page
[02:54] <sveakex> Mox`: you sent a guide for ubuntu, just keep that in mind when you are following it :)
[02:54] <Huufarted> _VIM_, that's way easier than mine....
[02:54] <josher4> I have a M1730, which has a small LCD screen in the top right corner. Usually in Vista, it would display the  ram usage and CPU performance along with other things. Is there a controller or a driver for Ubuntu 8.10 that will make this show up?
[02:54] <Mox`> Titan8990, how do I see what run at start? :O
[02:54] <Mox`> sveakex hehe ye, but that shouldn't have anything to say
[02:54] <_VIM_> oh you might want to use a '|less' at the end of that locate command, hehe locate tends to overload the terminal with a LOT of text
[02:54] <darkhelmetlive> remu: did it work?
[02:55] <jmknsd> I have a problem, I can no longer play my movies or music, any app I use tried to play it, and then just stops, even VLC, but if I log on another user accout, I am able to listen/watch anything
[02:55] <_VIM_> Huufarted: your's sounded cooler ;)
[02:55] <Titan8990> Mox`, in general, all starting application will be in /etc/init.d
[02:55] <duelboot> Mox`, you can also go to System --> Sessions
[02:55] <Titan8990> Mox`, if you have not removed anything, everything in the /etc/init.d dir will be starting at boot
[02:55] <sveakex> Mox`: exactly
[02:55] <Mox`> Titan8990 I meant @ boot, update-rc :O
[02:55] <Titan8990> duelboot, mox has not gui....
[02:56] <duelboot> ahhh, thx Titan8990
[02:56] <akorn> redvamp128:  i uninstalled/reinstalled ALSA and i also ran autoremove i think it removed some old kernel settings or something im not sure wasn't really paying attentino heh
[02:56] <n8tuserf> jmknsd -> compare the permission and group membership of the user that can use vlc and play to the non-playing user
[02:56] <sveakex> Mox`: apache.conf files are built slighty different in some distros
[02:56] <Mox`> sveakex ye oke :)
[02:56] <Titan8990> Mox`, those commands are distro specific, and im not completely certain on debians but mine is:   rc-update show
[02:56] <Huufarted> _VIM_:  find / -name "base" -user "your" -exec chown us {} \;
[02:56] <Titan8990> Mox`, so maybe:  update-rc show ?
[02:57] <narcarsiss> dont forget when edditing you host file you dont edit hosts.conf
[02:57] <Mox`> Titan8990 ye oke, it's not here :\
[02:57] <jmknsd> n8tuserf:  the account I am having problems with is my main acct, the other us hardly used, both have default permissions, and own the files trying to be viewed
[02:57] <prince_jammys> oh_noes: the colon in root:root has to be escaped, i believe, in the sudoers file
[02:58] <n8tuserf> jmknsd -> look at their respective group membership,   see /etc/group
[02:58] <curtisab> after trying to download and install Flash 10 on ubuntu 8.10 I get this "Download done.
[02:58] <curtisab> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz
[02:58] <curtisab> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[02:58] <curtisab> "
[02:58] <FloodBot1> curtisab: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:59] <Titan8990> Mox`, check out man update-rc
[02:59] <josher4> I have a M1730, which has a small LCD screen in the top right corner. Usually in Vista, it would display the  ram usage and CPU performance along with other things. Is there a controller or a driver for Ubuntu 8.10 that will make this show up?
[02:59] <Mox`> Titan8990 did that :), anyways how do I remove pw for root?
[02:59] <akorn> redvamp128: any ideas?
[02:59] <usser> curtisab, adobe updated flashplayer, its not yet reflected in the repos, it expects checksum from previous version. Thats my guess anyhow
[02:59] <Scubidus> 1400 people in this room and not one person could even point me in the right direction!!!! WOW, and this is called a support channel HA!
[02:59] <redvamp128> akorn:  try rebooting then hit the escape key- then select the option of repair
[02:59] <Titan8990> Mox`, passwd root -l
[02:59] <Titan8990> Mox`, make sure sudo is configured first
[03:00] <jmknsd> n8tuserf: hmm ,some of the groups have the new acct as a member, but not the main acct
[03:00] <redvamp128> akorn:  also try 'gnome-session' see if it gives you any errors?
[03:00] <Mox`> Titan8990 thanks :), and I have.. I've added my user so I have access to root
[03:00] <oh_noes> prince_jammys: thanks.  That fixed it
[03:00] <akorn> okay hopefully this works thanks redvamp
[03:00] <n8tuserf> jmknsd -> there's your clue..
[03:01] <akorn> redvamp128: okay thanks hopefully this works
[03:01] <lws> why does networking depend on a non-existant service "ifupdown"?
[03:01] <jmknsd> n8tuserf: fax, tape and fuse
[03:01] <redvamp128> akorn hold on
[03:01] <Mox`> hmm.. sudo says, unable to resolv host everytime I run the command sudo? :S
[03:01] <dtchen> lws: ifupdown is not a service; it's a suite of scripts
[03:02] <crazyryan_a> How do I check if a file exists in terminal?
[03:02] <jmknsd> fuse... that sounds relevant
[03:02] <q0_0p> is SD usb adapter dongle ok for booting ubuntu for install or do i need to buy USB jumpdrive?
[03:02] <n8tuserf> jmknsd -> umm..maybe fuse is more essential
[03:02] <redvamp128> akorn: if that does not work though I have found on one page this command-- though still some researching on it -- said it fixed a borked desktop install -' sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[03:02] <lws> dtchen: Yes I know.
[03:02] <jmknsd> changed, is there a way to restart the sound service?
[03:02] <lws> dtchen: Yes, but /etc/init.d/networking says: Required-Start:    mountkernfs ifupdown $local_fs
[03:02] <baz> /proc/mdstats has it all, you just gotta read the instructions to know what it all means... seems like it would be pretty easy to make a little gui app for it that displays the information nicely - and maybe pings it once a minute to check the health... if only i knew how to code in whatever language i would use to make that :)
[03:03] <hmw> crazyryan_a - either you simplay ls /path/to/file.name  or in a script with test -e (like if [ -e FILENAME ]; then ... fi)
[03:03] <dontbestupid> hi guys, have an I have an old compaq lying around with two nics and wanted to setup a little networking monitoring device that would sit behind the modem, but in front of the router. Wasn't sure if ubuntu was the right distro to use or if there was something better?
[03:03] <lws> dtchen: It can't start as long as ifupdown doesn't start, and since ifupdown isn't a service, it can never start.
[03:04] <roadrock> Mox`: /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname need to have  the same hostname or sudo problems can occur.
[03:04] <dtchen> lws: that's because it's a "service" (meaning it ships an /etc/init.d/ifupdown) in Debian's package
[03:04] <n8tuserf> dontbestupid -> its good enuff, any linux should do ok for tht functionality
[03:05] <lws> dtchen: Why don't I have it then?
[03:05] <Mox`> roadrock ok thanks
[03:05] <dtchen> lws: are you running Ubuntu instead of Debian?
[03:05] <roadrock> Mox`: welcome
[03:05] <dontbestupid> n8tuserf do you know of any good tutorials?
[03:05] <lws> dtchen: Yes, that's why I'm in #ubuntu
[03:05] <baz> !reiserfs
[03:05] <dtchen> lws: Ubuntu does not ship an /etc/init.d/ifupdown
[03:05] <n8tuserf> !ics | dontbestupid
[03:06] <dtchen> lws: instead, we use a udev rule (/etc/udev/rules.d/85-ifupdown.rules)
[03:06] <lws> dtchen: Then why does /etc/init.d/networking depend on it?
[03:06] <n8tuserf> lws -> what are you looking for?
[03:06] <yun-haow> what a difrent xchat genom and xchat only?
[03:06] <dtchen> lws: hence, in Ubuntu, it does not matter that the initscript for ifupdown is not shipped
[03:07] <lws> dtchen: It does if I set networking to start via chkconfig
[03:07] <lws> dtchen: NetworkManager is a piece of **** that keeps messing up my resolv.conf and custom AP setup.
[03:07] <dtchen> lws: feel free, then, to file a bug affecting netbase to have it fixed
[03:07] <n8tuserf> lws -> chkconfig is also not an ubuntu feature
[03:07] <wildweasel_> t
[03:08] <lws> n8tuserf:  My problem is I disabled NetworkManager. and I would *Like* my network interfaces to come up on startup still.  Thus, adding networking to the default runlevels.
[03:08] <Mox`> roadrock, hostname in /etc/hosts og /etc/hostname is now the same, but i still says it? :S
[03:08] <dtchen> lws: you don't need to add networking to the default runlevels to have that happen
[03:08] <lws> dtchen: Well it isn't happening, what do I need to do then?
[03:08] <dtchen> lws: you need to edit interfaces(5) and use auto iface foo ...
[03:09] <n8tuserf> lws -> post your /etc/network/interfaces  file please
[03:09] <lws> dtchen: I do have that setup.
[03:09] <roadrock> Mox`: what was the error?
[03:09] <n8tuserf> lws post it so we can make comments
[03:09] <dontbestupid> n8tuserf i'm looking to create a machine-in-the-middle box (transparent) in between the cable modem and router with wireshark (preferably gui), so that i can see what kinda packets are flowing thru the connection
[03:09] <Mox`> roadrock sudo: unable to resolve host
[03:10] <keres> if you were to make a 'sudo xchat' on startup, would the user be able to exit out of it without being root?
[03:10] <lws> n8tuserf: http://pastebin.com/d2eb97c8a
[03:10] <keres> i am looking to have xchat alway s on so my family cannot exit out of it
[03:10] <kizza> help i have 8.10 and weneva i try 2 run a game it runs it but gliches difrent coulourd ect.\
[03:10] <n8tuserf> dontbestupid -> well you have to configure your router (ubuntu) as if it was not even there even though it is acting as router or if yo uwant as a bridge(expensive)
[03:10] <sveakex> keres: why would you use an irc client as root?
[03:10] <roadrock> Mox`: I'm thinking a reboot might do it.
[03:11] <keres> sveakex: simply so my family won't exit out of it while they are on
[03:11] <keres> sveakex: i have problems with that. Will that work or is there a better way?
[03:11] <kizza>  help i have 8.10 and weneva i try 2 run a game it runs it but gliches difrent coulourd ect.
[03:11] <sveakex> keres: i don't think it would work, but you could use irssi and screen
[03:11] <n8tuserf> lsw: line 1 is incorrect, onl y have one interface there  ie  auto lo   more comments to follow
[03:12] <kizza>  help i have 8.10 and weneva i try 2 run a game it runs it but gliches difrent coulourd ect.
[03:12] <sveakex> kizza: play a different game
[03:12] <kizza> every game
[03:12] <Mox`> roadrock, just tried that :O
[03:12] <lws> n8tuserf:  eh..  I didn't make most of that line, it comes shiped with eth0 on it.
[03:12] <n8tuserf> lsw: you can delete line 10 and 12  no need to mention if you wanted it manually activated
[03:12] <kizza>  help i have 8.10 and weneva i try 2 run a game it runs it but gliches difrent coulourd ect.
[03:12] <keres> sveakex: i am unfamiliar with those. could you explain? could a shell script be looped to just restart the app if it ever gets quit?
[03:12] <crazyryan_a> Hey, let's say I create a crontab. How can I reference that in future when I want to edit it from command line?
[03:13] <n8tuserf> lws nope it never gets installed like that.. so correct it if you want a working one
[03:13] <lws> n8tuserf: That's true *if* you don't have networkmanager running, otherwise it tries to do stuff with them and screws up my bridge setup.
[03:13] <sveakex> keres: irssi is an irc client for the console, screen is a program for the console which you can close the terminal and "revive" that window
[03:13] <roadrock> Mox`: what sudo command did you run? are you certain /etc/hosts is 'correctly' written?
[03:13] <fearful> Is it normal to have 135 running processes but only 3 are used the rest 132 are sleeping, that sounds a bit wierd
[03:14] <Nytrix> !openbsd
[03:14] <n8tuserf> lws also delete line 12 to line 18
[03:14] <usser> fearful, yes thats normal
[03:14] <sveakex> keres: you start screen in a terminal, open irssi, close the terminal, and then you can use screen to get irssi back
[03:14] <fearful> usser, ok thanks
[03:14] <keres> sveakex: oh, i'm looking so there's really no way to exit out of the program unless you are root
[03:14] <Mox`> roadrock it doesn't matter which sudo command I run :)
[03:14] <dontbestupid> n8tuserf so if i understand you. i'd have to setup the ubuntu box to act like a router. So then I'd have modem<=>ubuntu(1st router)<=>linksys (2nd router) <=>pc desktops
[03:15] <sveakex> keres: well just have different accounts
[03:15] <sveakex> :P
[03:15] <roadrock> Mox`: pastebin your /etc/hosts
[03:15] <lws> nt8userf: I put those manual lines in there to fix NetworkManager mucking with the services.  My interfaces config is fine.   It's been working for a year.
[03:15] <n8tuserf> dontbestupid -> yes, like that
[03:15] <turtle_> KDE 4 wont work with 64bit?
[03:15] <akorn> redvamp128: it won't work haha gnome-session won't load, it says it can't load the display and i don't know when to push ESC to run Repair
[03:15] <darkhelmetlive> keres: running a GUI application as root won't prevent people from closing it...
[03:15] <Flynsarmy> Would i notice any speed improvement switching to 64-bit intrepid? Are there any major caveats?
[03:15] <sveakex> keres: gnome has a switch user function
[03:15] <akorn> redvamp128: keep in mind im running 8.04
[03:15] <keres> sveakex: im well aware of that
[03:15] <crazyryan_a> Hey, let's say I create a crontab. How can I reference that in future when I want to edit it from command line?
[03:15] <redvamp128> akorn:  like right after you turn the machine on during/grub load ( i am running that as well)
[03:15] <darkhelmetlive> keres: except of course they can't kill it from the terminal unless they are also root
[03:15] <dontbestupid> n8tuserf thanks for the help, appreciate it
[03:15] <rww> Flynsarmy: probably not, and not really. Intrepid 64-bit has fixed most of the flash/driver/etc. problems.
[03:16] <usser> crazyryan_a, crontab -e
[03:16] <n8tuserf> lws -> thats an odd way of config i have not seen before, but if you claim it works for you, i can not dispute that,
[03:16] <keres> darkhelmetlive: so there's no shell script you could write to restart the application if it gets exited out of?
[03:16] <akorn> oh i thoguht it woulda been after it goes thru the grub menu where i choose between ubuntu's different kernels?
[03:16] <lws> n8tuserf:  It does work, and running /etc/init.d/networking start after boot causes all my interfaces to load.
[03:16] <darkhelmetlive> keres: well yes, but as already suggested, try irssi + screen. it's what i'm using right now
[03:16] <usser> keres, sure you could do that
[03:16] <sveakex> keres: using that feature may seem usefull, having different accounts
[03:17] <akorn> redvamp128:  oh i thoguht it woulda been after it goes thru the grub menu where i choose between ubuntu's different kernels?
[03:17] <n8tuserf> lws if it loads and works, then perhaps I mis-understood the issue which what again?
[03:17] <lws> n8tuserf:  I don't think the inserv stuff is working because of the ifupdown depend.  Maybe if i just delete that from the dependencies it will work
[03:17] <darkhelmetlive> you just detach the screen session and the terminal keeps running and hence irssi keeps running. so you can close the terminal, and come back to it later
[03:17] <keres> sveakex: once again i choose to have only one account :/
[03:17] <sveakex> keres: bad choice :P
[03:17] <lws> n8tuserf:  I disabled NetworkManager so that it wouldn't ruin my resolv.conf file after pppoe sets it up.   But now my interfaces don't load at startup
[03:17] <Flynsarmy> rww, what're the advantages of the 64-bit version if not speed?
[03:17] <redvamp128> akorn:  unless you can edit your menu.lst and comment out the hidemenu with #hidemenu
[03:18] <sveakex> lws: use wicd instead of network manager
[03:18] <rww> keres: there is no way for you to run a program as a non-root user that can't be terminated by that non-root user.
[03:18] <lws> sveakex: what is that?
[03:18] <sveakex> lws: it's like network manager but better
[03:18] <akorn> redvamp128: well it shows a list because i have windows on another partition (which isn't loading either believe it or not haha)
[03:18] <n8tuserf> lws resolv.conf can be re-written depending on your dhclient or perhaps maybe with how you config your ppp also
[03:18] <lws> sveakex: I don't need any networkManager.  I've been configuring my interfaces file since Debian 2.0
[03:18] <sveakex> lws: i use it to handle my network, but i don't know if it supports pppoe
[03:18] <keres> rww: if i run a program as root can a non-root user use the program but not exit out of it?
[03:18] <Gargantua> Ummm
[03:18] <turtle_> 64 bit is normal evolution
[03:19] <lws> All I want is something to run the auto line from my interfaces file *sigh*
[03:19] <usser> lws, you dont have to disable network manager in order for your dns server settings to stay put
[03:19] <turtle_> for HD streams and such
[03:19] <usser> lws, just edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[03:19] <Gargantua> The apt-get package mysql-server doesn't come with the mysql C headers, anyone know what package that is in?
[03:19] <lws> usser: ???
[03:19] <rww> keres: it depends on the program. not irssi, no.
[03:19] <sveakex> lws: you can have a script which load the interfaces
[03:19] <keres> rww: xchat?
[03:19] <usser> lws, what gets screwed up in /etc/resolv.conf?
[03:19] <redvamp128> akorn:  there should be an option of recovery mode
[03:20] <MFen> does ubuntu contain any nice packagings of vnc that would be suitable for running a desktop app on the web?
[03:20] <n8tuserf> lws and also looking at the man pages of interfaces, you way of doing  iface ath0 inet manual    is not even mentioned,.. manual? an undocumented feature?
[03:20] <lws> usser: my ppp stuff setups up resolv.conf and NetworkManager is apparently overwriting it occasionally with nothing.
[03:20] <akorn> redvamp128: not on the disc, but when i boot off my hard drive right is what you mean?
[03:20] <rww> Flynsarmy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=368607
[03:20] <anarchman1> Hi, I installed hplip by downloading via hp's website instead of the package manager, and now that process is constantly taking up 60-80% of my cpu? how can I remove this hplip?
[03:20] <MFen> i'm looking for something a little prettier and simpler to configure than 'tightvncserver :1 -optionsblahblah'
[03:20] <Gargantua> The apt-get package mysql-server doesn't come with the mysql C headers, anyone know what package that is in?
[03:20] <redvamp128> akorn:  yes from your grubmenu
[03:20] <lws> n8tuserf: there is a manual method in the man page.
[03:20] <MFen> a nicer web interface would be useful too.. i'm interested in anything flash-based rather than java-based
[03:21] <lws> n8tuserf: man interfaces -> "The manual Method"
[03:21] <akorn> redvamp128: oh yea wow im dumb, but it's all text based isn't it? so what would i do when i reach it?
[03:21] <n8tuserf> lws but not the way you have done it,
[03:21] <sveakex> lws: disable nm and have some sort script which loads your interfaces?
[03:21] <lws> n8tuserf: What?
[03:21] <darkhelmetlive> can i configure networkmanager to use different dhclient.conf's for different interfaces
[03:21] <lws> n8tuserf: what do you mean the way I've done it?  How's it supposed to be done?
[03:21] <n8tuserf> lws man interfaces again and show me your style of  iface ath0 inet manual
[03:22] <turtle_> is there a mathematica for Linux?
[03:22] <usser> lws, you can add stuff to /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf, like prepend domain-name-servers <IP_ADDRESS>;
[03:22] <usser> lws, just set it to one of the public dns servers like opendns
[03:22] <darkhelmetlive> turtle_: octave is what you want i believe
[03:22] <darkhelmetlive> turtle_: well, that's matlab compatible stuff....
[03:22] <turtle_> ok,thanks
[03:23] <lws> n8tuserf: My Method?  it's only a "manual" in the method section of an interface definition.   That is not different any other way
[03:23] <redvamp128> akorn:  when you get there-- try the following-- sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  (if that does not work) then I would suggest trying this-- sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop (that way you will have an XFCE working to fix your ubuntu) then you can later remove the xubuntu
[03:23] <spaceBARbarian> is there a way to delete all your message queues at the same time ?
[03:23] <Mox`> sveakex, hmm a good directory to place firewall script and so on? :O
[03:23] <lws> usser: Bleh
[03:23] <lws> usser: NetworkManager is annoying period.
[03:23] <usser> lws, whatever is in resolv.conf doesnt have to be connection specific you can override whatever ppp gets from the provider.
[03:23] <usser> lws, ok :)
[03:23] <lws> usser: thanks for the hint though.
[03:23] <n8tuserf> lws no samples at all like you did, but again am not disputing that it works for you, i have not seen that kind of configurations..
[03:23] <lws> usser: true, but there's less latency from my ISP
[03:23] <akorn> redvamp128: yea i was considering either that or the KDE desktop makes sense, sorry im being quite a noob right now haha thanks a lot
[03:24] <lws> n8tuserf: look under iface options.
[03:24] <usser> lws, yea i guess
[03:24] <redvamp128> akorn:  once you get into xubuntu-- then you should be able to use synaptic package manger to reinstall the ubuntu-desktop
[03:24] <sveakex> /var/firewall ? :P it doesn't really matter aslong as you know where it is :)
[03:24] <Mox`> sveakex heh oke, it's because I want to remove the script from /home
[03:24] <n8tuserf> lws my eyes maybe deceiving me, idont see the same like your style
[03:25] <lws> n8tuserf: Under the examples directory specified there are a few of them.
[03:25] <akorn> redvamp128: great i'll try that now thanks a lot!
[03:25] <roadrock> Mox`: <IP_ADDRESS> hostname in /etc/hosts should be the same as the output of the command 'hostname' in a term.
[03:25] <sveakex> Mox`: /etc/firewall make sense aswell since it configures your firewall
[03:25] <sveakex> makes*
[03:25] <roadrock> Mox`: correction, <IP_ADDRESS> hostname in /etc/hosts should be the same as the output of the command 'hostname' in a term.
[03:25] <Mox`> sveakex I also have a vt server eg. :)
[03:26] <Mox`> roadrock okay 2sec
[03:26] <n8tuserf> lws  under my /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/  those are scripts not config files
[03:26] <mishu> Hi. I have a problem with my wireless driver. When I first installed ubuntu, after running Update, a wireless driver was auto installed, and it worked. Now, i thought i can make my wireless get better signal if i used a windows driver with ndiswrapper. Problem is, none of the windows drivers work properly, and i can't get the original driver that worked back.. the one from Ubuntu .. i'm on Intrepid... I've been trying all day, looking everywhere .. any ide
[03:26] <mishu> as?
[03:26] <mishu> any ideas on how to get the original driver back.
[03:26] <Mox`> roadrock, hmm in my hosts file, the hostname is a WAN ip? and not local?
[03:27] <lws> n8tuserf: I'm not understanding what my 'style' is.   you specify iface <name> <addrfam> <method>  so: iface ath0 inet manual
[03:27] <redvamp128> akorn:  and if that still does not work then you could try this page -- How to repair a broken Ubuntu Desktop installation — Dharwadkar's Home on the web <http://www.dharwadkar.com/weblog/ubuntu04>
[03:27] <n8tuserf> lws yes that style, i have not seen it before, nor documented in the man pages
[03:27] <lws> n8t8userf: It's right there,  that's the style for the interface specification, and manual is a method that is listed.
[03:27] <sveakex> Mox`: what? :P
[03:28] <lws> n8tuserf: You're confusing me :P
[03:28] <Mox`> sveakex I have a vt server running on it, where should I place that? :)
[03:28] <n8tuserf> lws all am saying is your style of  iface ath0 inet manual is something thats not documented nor i have seen in man pages
[03:29] <mishu> Hi. I have a problem with my wireless driver. When I first installed ubuntu, after running Update, a wireless driver was auto installed, and it worked. Now, i thought i can make my wireless get better signal if i used a windows driver with ndiswrapper. Problem is, none of the windows drivers work properly, and i can't get the original driver that worked back.. the one from Ubuntu .. i'm on Intrepid... I've been trying all day, looking everywhere .. any ide
[03:29] <mishu> as on how to get the driver that was installed by ubuntu on the first update?
[03:29] <lws> n8tuserf: Are you talking about "manual" or ath0, or what?  Because iface <interface> inet manual *is* in the man page.  I'm looking at it right now.
[03:29] <roadrock> Mox`: I need a pastebin, <IP_ADDRESS> can have that, 2nd line <IP_ADDRESS> should be actual hostname
[03:29] <sveakex> Mox`: /home maybe? there is a lot of space on home
[03:29] <lws> n8tuserf: No example is given for it, but it manul is a "method" under the "INET ADDRES FAMILY" type
[03:29] <n8tuserf> lws  can you kindly pm me that portion of the man pages?
[03:29] <sveakex> Mox`: you don't want / to run out of space
[03:29] <Mox`> sveakex hehe no :] I think i'll put it in /opt :)
[03:30] <Platypus-irssi> I am trying to install a script for irssi, and the page tells me to put them into ~/.irssi/scripts/ , but I can't find the dir.
[03:30] <sveakex> Mox`: that works aswell, but keep in mind you don't want / to get full
[03:30] <sveakex> :)
[03:30] <darkhelmetlive> Platypus-irssi: just make the directory and put them there.
[03:30] <roadrock> I read drinking is bad for you so I gave up reading.
[03:30] <lws> n8tuserf: Alright, hang on.
[03:30] <jrib> Platypus-irssi: create it
[03:31] <roadrock> wrong chan, sorry.
[03:31] <Mox`> sveakex ye, but I have 30gb, what should fill / ?
[03:31] <scunizi> Platypus-irssi, mkdir ~/.irssi/scripts
[03:31] <sveakex> Mox`: nu clue, my / got filled up somehow, but i am running a desktop computer :P
[03:31] <lws> n8tuserf: I don't feel like reading the specification for the iface stanza.  But can we agree it goes iface <interface> <addrfam> <method> ?
[03:31] <sveakex> no*
[03:31] <Mox`> sveakex ye oke :) hehe
[03:32] <Mox`> sveakex log files maybe?
[03:32] <lws> n8tuserf: If you agree that is how the iface stanza works, search for manual method on this page:  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/en/man5/interfaces.5.html
[03:32] <n8tuserf> lws okay i agree with you, am not even disputing its not working, im just saying i have not seen it before
[03:32] <sveakex> Mox`: very possible, but i might have turned the syslog off... :P
[03:32] <lws> n8tuserf: If you scroll up you'll see manual is specified under the "inet" address family allowed methods.
[03:32] <Mox`> sveakex hehe oke :)
[03:33] <poutine> I have this stupid popped up window with half a filled progress bar, and something that looks like a mine above it
[03:33] <poutine> anyone know wtf this is
[03:33] <poutine> in gnome
[03:33] <n8tuserf> lws and its says no options but you have options of up ....  so am perplexed, anyhow if it works for you, thats cool
[03:33] <lws> n8tuserf: Oh.
[03:33] <Nytrix> !splash
[03:33] <lws> n8tuserf:  If you'll notice "up" is not an method option at all.
[03:33] <sveakex> Mox`: yeah but opt or var shoud work
[03:34] <mishu> Hi. I have a problem with my wireless driver. When I first installed ubuntu, after running Update, a wireless driver was auto installed, and it worked. Now, i thought i can make my wireless get better signal if i used a windows driver with ndiswrapper. Problem is, none of the windows drivers work properly, and i can't get the original driver that worked back.. the one from Ubuntu .. i'm on Intrepid... I've been trying all day, looking everywhere .. any ide
[03:34] <mishu> as on how to get the driver that was installed by ubuntu on the first update?
[03:34] <sveakex> Mox`: well of course they work but i meant it makes sense
[03:34] <Platypus-irssi> scunizi: I didn't get any errors, but I can't see any new folders in the root dir
[03:34] <lws> n8tuserf: Read the text below the manual method about the "Up and down commands"
[03:35] <sveakex> mishu: ndiswrapper is your last resort :P
[03:35] <lws> n8tuserf: I agree though, the interfaces man page is SEVERELY lacking.
[03:35] <lws> n8tuserf: I removed the depend on the ifupdown service in networking.  I'm going to reboot to try it.  BRB
[03:35] <scunizi> Platypus-irssi, any directory that begins with a period ".".. is hidden.. ls -a will list all directories even hidden ones.. or you could just do cd ~/.irssi
[03:35] <mishu> sveakex: u didn't understand .. the diver ubuntu genericly had, worked. but i don't know how to get it back on now
[03:35] <scunizi> Platypus-irssi, then ls to list what's there.
[03:35] <Mox`> sveakex :)
[03:36] <n8tuserf> lws am always open to learning new things everyday, i learned something new..
[03:36]  * GreeenEyes Saluda -> Said HI
[03:36] <sveakex> mishu: you can start with removing ndiswrapper
[03:36] <tesseracter> why is the disk usage analyzer so inaccurate?
[03:36] <sveakex> mishu: if the original driver is still on there it might work afterwards after a reboot
[03:36] <mishu> yea, i did .. but where do i look for the ubuntu wlan dirver, and how do i install it ? :)
[03:36] <poutine> I have a popup window that'
[03:37] <mishu> nope .. i tried uninstalling and rebooting
[03:37] <mishu> not working
[03:37] <sveakex> mishu: reinstall the driver
[03:37] <poutine> I have a popup window that's GTK looking, it has half a filled progress bar, and something that looks like a mine above it, anyone have any clues on how I can get it to go away?
[03:37] <GreeenEyes> DAAAA, UNA MINA NO HAY?
[03:37] <sveakex> mishu: synaptic is able to install a lot of things, press alt f2 and do gksudo synaptic
[03:38] <sveakex> Mox`: :)
[03:38] <mishu> Can anyone tell me where i can find the default ubuntu intrepid wireless driver ?
[03:38] <Platypus-irssi> scunizi: looks like it kinda worked, how do I move a file from desktop into that folder now? probably need to do it in text because as you said, folder is hidden
[03:38] <scunizi> sveakex, why bring up synaptic for mishu that way .. when system>admin>synaptic works just the same