[04:54] <lgc> CarlFK, inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>.
[04:54] <ripdisk> bastid_raZor: sorry
[04:54] <Suva> Wiggles: Who needs windows if you you have Ubuntu and a pornspambot
[04:54] <gyaresu> nickrud: Strange how the little helpers don't get a friendly stick to wave.
[04:54] <Wiggles> i'll try to find my install cd
[04:54] <twavisdegwet> lol
[04:54] <twavisdegwet> alright well cya every1 thank you for ur help
[04:54] <bastid_raZor> Wiggles:: the windows cd will restore the lost files and fix your issues.
[04:55] <DarkW0lf> Wiggles: I really suggest you install linux and windows on seperate harddrives, as Windows partitions don't seem to react well with any other types of partitions, and dual boot them
[04:55] <ripdisk> i just need some help with my sound :( this is holding me back from doing the work i need to do
[04:55] <Wiggles> hey, does quicken work under wine?
[04:55] <nickrud> gyaresu: I admire those who volunteer to police things, but I prefer to just come and go. I can disappear for a year (done that before)
[04:55] <DarkW0lf> Wiggles: that's what I do at the moment and I haven't had a problem at all
[04:55] <CarlFK> lgc: the 2nd box (not the server)
[04:55] <DarkW0lf> wiggles: I don't know. I would assume so, but I can't be sure
[04:55] <cybergig> cybergig> I need help, I'm trying to install an .sh file (Specificly the NetBeans 6.0 + JDK 6 Update 3 Package) and I keep getting an error in the terminal about GTK/Ignoring theme. (/usr/share/themes/Human/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Engine "ubuntulooks" is unsupported, ignoring
 /usr/share/themes/Human/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:242: Priority specification is unsupported, ignoring
 )
[04:55] <bastid_raZor> DarkW0lf:: as long as grub is set up correctly (which it will be if linux is installed 2nd) it'll be fine
[04:55] <gyaresu> nickrud: We must be on the same cycle ;) I'm the same.
[04:56] <bastid_raZor> DarkW0lf:: windows will not see or be able to use the ext3 partition unless you install software to do so.
[04:56] <gyaresu> Wiggles: Have you looked at gnucash? I think you can import quicken files.
[04:56] <lgc> CarlFK, <IP_ADDRESS>.
[04:56] <dg19075> Wiggles: I have Ubuntu and XP on sep. har drives, and have no problems. Best to dual boot that way.
[04:56] <DarkW0lf> bastid_raZor: yeah, however there are some rather unusal quirks I've found with dual boots on the same harddrive. perhaps it was their settings, and such...
[04:57] <Wiggles> gyaresu: i will... i may be forced to use ubuntu
[04:57] <CarlFK> lgc: there's your probelm.  the 2 arn't on the same "net" and the server is on a private net.  probably the easy thing to do is figure out how to set your dsl router or AP to do port forwarding
[04:57] <bastid_raZor> DarkW0lf:: true. windows does tend to do odd things. i agree.. the 'best' idea would be seperate harddrives
[04:57] <DarkW0lf> bastid_raZor: indeed :P
[04:57] <nowshining> Does anyone know the EXACT date gutsy support ends in April in 2009? for example April 18th??
[04:57] <CarlFK> lgc:  the 'easy' thing to do first is work with 2 boxes that are on the same LAN (both will have 192 IPs)
[04:57] <dg19075> ..and them ore I use Ubuntu, the bettder I like it!
[04:57] <DarkW0lf> nowshining: no idea
[04:58] <xTheGoat121x> evening all
[04:58] <DarkW0lf> dg19075: Ubuntu is good, isnt it? :)
[04:58] <nowshining> xTheGoat evening
[04:58] <Darkmystere> I still need help because i cant use synaptics or any packadge manager anymore
[04:58] <lgc> CarlFK, I see that my DSL modem has 'intruder blocking' on. Maybe that is the problem?
[04:58] <dg19075> anvil solid!
[04:58] <xTheGoat121x> #ubuntu-us-nj
[04:58] <cybergig> cybergig> I need help, I'm trying to install an .sh file (Specificly the NetBeans 6.0 + JDK 6 Update 3 Package) and I keep getting an error in the terminal about GTK/Ignoring theme. (/usr/share/themes/Human/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Engine "ubuntulooks" is unsupported, ignoring
 /usr/share/themes/Human/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:242: Priority specification is unsupported, ignoring
 )
[04:58] <xTheGoat121x> Whoops
[04:58] <dg19075> no crshes, runs flawlessly here.
[04:59] <cybergig> kind of desperate :s
[04:59] <CarlFK> lgc: no.  your laptop has a private IP.
[04:59] <oldude67> hey is there a way to update the kernel other then on there own special pace?
[04:59] <xTheGoat121x> nowshining, evening
[04:59] <nowshining> :)
[04:59] <robersonfox> hi people, is correct use 755 permission in web sites?
[04:59] <cybergig> I need netbeans working by the end of the night on ubuntu.
[04:59] <CentHOGG> !netbeans
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netbeans - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <xTheGoat121x> Here's a question.... my G/F's laptop won't allow logoff.... is there a reason?
[04:59] <orbisvicis> cybergig, whats the issue?
[04:59] <cybergig> cybergig> I need help, I'm trying to install an .sh file (Specificly the NetBeans 6.0 + JDK 6 Update 3 Package) and I keep getting an error in the terminal about GTK/Ignoring theme. (/usr/share/themes/Human/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Engine "ubuntulooks" is unsupported, ignoring
 /usr/share/themes/Human/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:242: Priority specification is unsupported, ignoring
 )
[05:00] <lgc> CarlFK, what is "AP" ?
[05:00] <dg19075> I found some audio conversion apps here in Linux that would be expensive shareware in Windows
[05:00] <kitche> !paste | cybergig
[05:00] <ubotu> cybergig: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:00] <Sharon_Klimesh> Sharon Klimesh has join da room and will now crunkitize it
[05:00] <CarlFK> lgc wireless access point
[05:00] <Sharon_Klimesh> Sharon Klimesh craves sandwich right now.
[05:00] <Jeah> debatem1: Let me know if/when you get back.
[05:00] <Sharon_Klimesh> I AM SO HUNGRY! Food for da great Sharon Klimesh!
[05:00] <Sharon_Klimesh> Me love all food of da world.
[05:00] <Sharon_Klimesh> Sharon Klimesh is in da building, Sharon Klimesh is in da building.
[05:00] <Shpook> Has anyone used the "Looking Glass" desktop environment lately? it's the fully 3D one developed by Sun. I was wondering if it's gotten anymore stable.
[05:00] <Sharon_Klimesh> Me eat a lot! Me love pancakes!
[05:00] <cybergig> I get that error when I try to install, and when I run it I get a blank applet window when I install via packet manager
[05:00] <nowshining> TheGoat, is logoff disabled in /apps/panel/global disable_logout in gconf-editor
[05:00] <fcmatt> wiggles: did you figure it out?
[05:01] <orbisvicis> lately no one can paste anything
[05:01] <Shpook> !looking glass
[05:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about looking glass - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:01] <kitche> cybergig: anyways' that's not an error it's just states that it's ignoring the theme
[05:01] <orbisvicis> cybergig, u know theres a netbeans package?
[05:01] <fcmatt> shpook: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LookingGlass
[05:01] <xTheGoat121x> nowshining, now there's one I've never heard before, I'll have to check that out.
[05:01] <xTheGoat121x> Thank you!
[05:01] <fcmatt> shpook: im installing it now
[05:01] <nowshining> :)
[05:01] <nowshining> ur welcome
[05:01] <xTheGoat121x> Anyone here excited for 8.04?
[05:01] <cybergig> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51049/
[05:01] <cybergig> That
[05:02]  * xTheGoat121x raises his hand
[05:02] <adub> does anyone know how to setup snort
[05:02] <F3d0rA> Anyone have Ubuntu 7.10 on Dell Laptop D830 with AHCI or ATA?  Which is better to use SATA AHCI mode or ATA
[05:02] <lgc> CarlFK, how can I configure my DSL router to do port forwarding?
[05:02] <nowshining> Goat, not me, i'm sticking with Gutsy, but I know a friend from the forums who is :)
[05:02] <Shpook> fcmatt: Cool, it's fun, I used it about a year ago or so when it was real young and buggy. I'm gonna try and install it again and hope it's a little more stable.
[05:02] <xTheGoat121x> nowshining, honestly, I've been avoiding Gutsy, sticking with Feisty
[05:02] <cybergig> Yes, I tried in the um whats it called...
[05:02] <orbisvicis> cybergig, also http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/153782 solved the same issue
[05:03] <cybergig> Synaptic Package
[05:03] <nowshining> Goat why?
[05:03] <fcmatt> i get this problem when trying to install it, shpook, got any ideas?  E: /var/cache/apt/archives/lg3d-core_1.0.1%5fdev_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 10
[05:03] <CarlFK> lgc: http://portforward.com/routers.htm
[05:03] <xTheGoat121x> nowshining, *shrug*  I really don't know.  I have Gutsy on my desktop, and I've had no errors...
[05:04] <xTheGoat121x> nowshining, I think it has to do with the fact that I don't want to deal with resetting everything now, only to reinstall again for Hardy
[05:04] <orbisvicis> cybergig, what was wrong with it?
[05:04] <sfears> anyone know how i can force my second monitor (tv) to use a higher screen resolution?
[05:04] <nowshining> goat, lolz, that's my reason for staying with Gutsy :P
[05:04] <cybergig> well when I ran the program the application looks like a normal interface... not the actual netbeans program
[05:04] <Shpook> fcmatt: Honestly, I have no idea. Maybe a missing dependency?
[05:04] <cybergig> it was all blank
[05:04] <xTheGoat121x> nowshining, LoL
[05:04] <lgc> CarlFK, let me try and do that and I'll get back to you later... thanks, for the time being.
[05:05] <cybergig> Couldn't get past the license agreement
[05:05] <Wiggles> i haven't backed up quicken in awhile... can i get my recent data from somewhere?
[05:05] <CarlFK> lgc: you're welcome.  good luck
[05:05] <Wiggles> like program files
[05:05] <twavisdegwet> so guys how do i become the owner in order to edit file permissions so i can install stuff
[05:05] <orbisvicis> cybergig, if you are running opengl workspace, ie compiz beryl, disable it
[05:06] <oldude67> so there is no way to manually update the kernel to the newest one?
[05:06] <Madpilot> twavisdegwet, you should be able to install stuff without editing any file permissions...
[05:06] <sunogbaga> !sudo | twavisdegwet
[05:06] <ubotu> twavisdegwet: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:06] <cybergig> I'm not but I did however enable the nvidia driver..
[05:06] <rajasun> fcmatt: not sure. Tried sudo dpkg --force overwrite -i  /var/cache/apt/archives/lg3d-core_1.0.1%5fdev_i386.deb; sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[05:06] <xTheGoat121x> nowshining, bad news.... I just checked it on the laptop, it's not that option in /apps/panel/global disable_logout in gconf-editor
[05:06] <orbisvicis> cybergig, java has issues with those, though it was fixed in gutsy (you feisty?). Tho solved by inserting variable into /etc/environment
[05:06] <Ketsuban> I'm having a small issue with Firefox - if I load a URL and then try to modify it, e.g. by removing the filename so I can browse the parent directory, then Firefox pretends the modification never happened and reloads the original URL.
[05:07] <nowshining> Goat, hmmm oh sorry then :(
[05:07] <cybergig> I'm in gusty
[05:07] <xTheGoat121x> nowshining, no big.  'twas worth a shot
[05:07] <nowshining> :)
[05:07] <Shpook> fcmatt: Try installing it like this: https://lg3d.dev.java.net/lg3d-getting-started.html
[05:07] <flatline-kun> Is anyone using Mumble/Murmur with Feisty?
[05:07] <twavisdegwet> when i attempt to install ndiswrapper i get an error message that i do not have permissions so i naviagated to the folder in which i'm suppose to install it and hit properties-- permission and it says i need to be the owner? i'm the only user on the computer so y would i not be the owner
[05:07] <DarkW0lf> lgc: I would think that's just to stop certain things, like "Pings of death" and such
[05:07] <DarkW0lf> lgc: in wireless terms, that's an Access Point
[05:08] <fcmatt> shpook: thats what i am looking at now
[05:08] <DarkW0lf> spammer
[05:08] <DarkW0lf> stupid spammers
[05:08] <twavisdegwet> i love the irony that u said that twice..
[05:08] <Malachi> twavisdegwet: How are you trying to install ndiswrapper?
[05:08] <nowshining> Goat what is the message/what happens when one tries to logoff the computer
[05:08] <Jeah> Does anyone know where debootstrap finds the release codename?  I'm doing an alternate install of Xubuntu Gutsy (it's actually a very much more complicated situation, but we can get into that if necessary) and I get the following error in the "Install the base system" part of the installation: "Debootstrap Error: Failed to determine the codename for the release."  The md5sum checked out when I downloaded the iso and the cd integrity check
[05:08] <DarkW0lf> xTheGoat121x: I installed Gutsy cause it was free with a cd and it's been pretty stable ever since
[05:08] <DarkW0lf> I found 7.04 didn't like my Wireless router using WPA-SPK
[05:09] <fcmatt> rajasun: still getting errors
[05:09] <Malachi> twavisdegwet: I'm assuming you went ndiswrapper's site and downloaded the package. Am I right?
[05:09] <twavisdegwet> ya nvm
[05:09] <twavisdegwet> my mistake i'm not installing ndiswrapper
[05:09] <lgc> DarkW0lf, thks.
[05:09] <xTheGoat121x> nowshining, what happens is nothing.  You select log off (or hit CTRL-ALT-BckSpc), the screen goes black, then you get a blinking cursor
[05:09] <marginoferror> Is there any way to pair bluetooth devices (a headset in this case) just using the GNOME GUI?
[05:09] <twavisdegwet> i'm attempting to instal a driver with it
[05:09] <nowshining> oh goat
[05:09] <cybergig> hmm I will disable it to see if it works o.o; brb
[05:09] <nowshining> ur probably in command line mode
[05:09] <flatline-kun> Is anyone using Mumble/Murmur with Feisty? Or can anyone recommend a good IOIP server?
[05:09] <DarkW0lf> lgc: about?
[05:09] <twavisdegwet> so i type ndiswrapper -i driver.inf and it says i do not have permissions?
[05:10] <nowshining> type logout
[05:10] <DarkW0lf> lgc: not sure what I'm being thanked about :P
[05:10] <interceptor> !ru
[05:10] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[05:10] <Malachi> twavisdegwet: The good thing about installing software with Ubuntu is that you don't have to go to many sites to download software. Most of the software you need, if not all, is available without downloading software.
[05:10] <ionstorm> i have a quick question regarding traceroute, is there anything wrong with this trace? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51050/
[05:10] <Malachi> twavisdegwet: Oh, you've already installed it?
[05:10] <lgc> DarkW0lf, '<DarkW0lf> lgc: I would think that's just to stop certain things, like "Pings of death" and such'.
[05:10] <twavisdegwet> ya i already got it installed
[05:10] <xTheGoat121x> nowshining, nah, I'm familiar with the CLI.... and it's definitely not that
[05:10] <ionstorm> for some reason after my gateway there is a <IP_ADDRESS> ip
[05:10] <rajasun> fcmatt: No guarantees that we will be abale tocome up with any solution but maybe try reproducing the error (from start of install to actual error), pastebin it, so that all can have a look at it.
[05:10] <xTheGoat121x> Can't type, can't do anything.
[05:10] <DarkW0lf> lgc: ah
[05:10] <ionstorm> anyone good in networking?
[05:10] <Malachi> twavisdegwet: If it's saying you don't have permission, do sudo in front of it.
[05:10] <nowshining> hmm then it's hanging
[05:10] <twavisdegwet> ya but i need to install a driver to install my networking adapter
[05:10] <nowshining> have u tried ctrl + c
[05:11] <twavisdegwet> so say sudo ndiswrapper -i driver.inf
[05:11] <twavisdegwet> instead?
[05:11] <orbisvicis> cybergig, well as alternative there is always eclipse. A black window bug kinda sounds like the infamous video memory bug. So if it is, you would know, b/c when opening too many windows one of them gets completely black. I get that sometimes. But have you tried setting the lang variable in that link?
[05:11] <Cpudan80> ionstorm: There's nothing wrong with that...
[05:11] <nowshining> oh and I think I know what u mean - i just remembered -
[05:11] <Malachi> twavisdegwet: Yes.
[05:11] <nowshining> :D
[05:11] <Cpudan80> ionstorm: How is your net setup?
[05:11] <twavisdegwet> well that's easy enough but still how to i become this "owner" guy
[05:11] <jtt> how do i print  /proc/NN/maps
[05:11] <twavisdegwet> cause changing folder permissions is probably something i'm gonna need in the future
[05:11] <nowshining> i can't help u there, 'cause I removed GDM startup - it's a problem with GDM I think, do u have a custom GDM theme
[05:11] <fcmatt> rajasun: http://pastebin.ca/844832
[05:11] <xTheGoat121x> nowshining, I heard someone say once that the HDD is write-protected somewhere or something, but he never explained how to fix it.
[05:12] <ionstorm> Cpudan80, I have a modem, then my 2wire gateway is running in direct ip or dhcp mode and im connected through wifi
[05:12] <Malachi> twavisdegwet: You don't want to become the owner guy.
[05:13] <ionstorm> Cpudan80, why is that 3rd hop a local ip range after my gateway ip
[05:13] <abyss> good morning everybody i have a little problem with viewing flash in mozilla ff and gnash! i cant see no video on my tube cause the flash-movie takes 100 percent of usage, anyone has a idea how to fix?
[05:13] <orbisvicis> anyone remember 6.06 or so Waaay back, there used to be installer bug, error mounting ntfs partitions. Anyone get that in Gutsy 7.10, or know workaround?
[05:13] <ionstorm> it just looks odd to me, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51050/
[05:13] <ionstorm> wifi-router-modem-yahoo
[05:14] <marginoferror> Can anyone help me set up my Bluetooth headphones with Gutsy?
[05:14] <cybergig> Thank you, that seems to work but instead netbeans comes up with an error when its loaded... I will probably manage to figure out the rest on my own... thanks again.
[05:14] <nowshining> goat, then i dunno then :/ I had it happen to me where the gdm would go all black, was this an upgraded machine or clean install
[05:14] <DarkW0lf> I keep forgetting about this: is my problem with hibernate cause of my GDM login screen?
[05:14] <orbisvicis> cybergig, you left, missed this:
[05:14] <tanath> can anyone help me get diablo 2 to full screen properly with compiz fusion running?
[05:14] <orbisvicis> cybergig, well as alternative there is always eclipse. A black window bug kinda sounds like the infamous video memory bug. So if it is, you would know, b/c when opening too many windows one of them gets completely black. I get that sometimes. But have you tried setting the lang variable in that link?
[05:15] <orbisvicis> cybergig, also I prefer eclipse to netbeans
[05:15] <xTheGoat121x> nowshining, clean install of Feisty.  I'll be upgrading it to 8.04 come April, but if it occurs again, it'd be nice to have a solutino.
[05:15] <Cpudan80> ionstorm: It's not
[05:15] <DarkW0lf> just wondering if that's the problem at all, I would think not, but I'm up for suggestions as I'd like to be able to hibernate again
[05:15] <tanath> it works fine in metacity, but with CF the gnome panels stay on top
[05:15] <Cpudan80> ionstorm: Your IPs are 192.168.1.XXX
[05:15] <Cpudan80> Or I think that's what they are - based on your paste
[05:15] <ionstorm> yes mine is 1.66
[05:15] <Cpudan80> That is .100.113
[05:15] <Cpudan80> .1 != .100
[05:16] <ionstorm> 3rd hop is <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:16] <ionstorm> why?
[05:16] <cybergig> Well, its okay I can experience with eclipse, I just need a program that I know how to use by tomarrow.
[05:16] <cybergig> its a college thing..
[05:16] <Cpudan80> ionstorm: It's just some other IP out there
[05:16] <cybergig> and I have used it on windows so thats why I need it..
[05:16] <nowshining> Well Goat, i've read that for support u need to upgrade one by one, example feisty then to gutsy then hardy, have u kept the defaults of feisty or manually tweaked config files, and stuff, if so then back-up and do a clean install of hardy for best results
[05:16] <Manuel_Rodriguez> More respect for all hungry people around da world.
[05:16] <ionstorm> ah ic, im wondering why it is in local ip range then
[05:16] <DarkW0lf> ionstorm: the ISP is probably using it perhaps
[05:16] <Manuel_Rodriguez> Bon Appetit for Manuel Rodriguez!
[05:16] <ionstorm> k
[05:16] <Manuel_Rodriguez> Me love all food of da world.
[05:16] <Manuel_Rodriguez> Burger Box is da best place to eat for Manuel Rodriguez.
[05:16] <Manuel_Rodriguez> Me Manuel Rodriguez. Me like to eat!
[05:16] <Manuel_Rodriguez> I am the hungriest person in the world.
[05:16] <Cpudan80> ionstorm: It's not in your local range
[05:17] <brianski> hmm, my sound card doesn't seem to work on a g3
[05:17] <xTheGoat121x> nowshining, yeah.  Well I'll cross that bridge when I come to it, I guess.  I'll be doing a clean install of Hardy whtn the time comes.
[05:17] <Cpudan80> ionstorm: Your local range is <IP_ADDRESS>-255
[05:17] <nowshining> goat yea better that :)
[05:17] <brianski> how do you disable drive icons on the desktop?
[05:17] <patbam> is it possible to use ekiga to talk to someone on windows?
[05:17] <ionstorm> ah ic now
[05:17] <cybergig> thank you for your help orbisvicis
[05:18] <matkix> I'm having an issue with VMware, every time I attempt to make a vm full screen I get an error... has anyone had this before and do they know how to fix it?
[05:18] <xTheGoat121x> What is going on with all those people?
[05:18] <allobject1> UnNaturalHigh: sorry about that, got called away... I'm assuming to match that sysv screenshot on the netwokring line
[05:18] <DarkW0lf> what is the next version of Ubuntu anyway?
[05:18] <DarkW0lf> after gutsy?
[05:18] <brianski> got it
[05:18] <Ketsuban> Hardy Heron.
[05:18] <xTheGoat121x> DarkW0lf, Hardy Heron
[05:18] <DarkW0lf> ah
[05:19] <DarkW0lf> going up the alphabet I see...
[05:19] <Manuel_Rodriguez> Manuel Rodriguez is the definition of awesome.
[05:19] <Manuel_Rodriguez> Me love all food of da world.
[05:19] <Manuel_Rodriguez> Burger Box is da best place to eat for Manuel Rodriguez.
[05:19] <cybergig> Ubuntu: Henry?
[05:19] <CarlFK> patbam: yes.  check out FWD and ... x10 or xten
[05:19] <Manuel_Rodriguez> Manuel Rodriguez is DA BOMB.
[05:19] <kr00l> how do i install a .tar.bz2?
[05:19] <orbisvicis> cybergig, so you disabled CF, and then some bug went away? Then most likely the synaptic package will work, etc. Then theres a permanent fix, like a said above
[05:19] <Manuel_Rodriguez> Me hate not eating!  Me like to eat!
[05:20] <patbam> CarlFK: thanks i shall google
[05:20] <astro76> !ops | Manuel_Rodriguez
[05:20] <ubotu> Manuel_Rodriguez: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[05:20] <Manuel_Rodriguez> Rodriguez. Manuel Rodriguez.
[05:20] <orbisvicis> ok, later all
[05:20] <Cpudan80> Ah I had the syntax wrong a little
[05:20] <fcmatt> rajasun: any ideas?
[05:20] <DarkW0lf> what is it with spammers?
[05:20] <tanath> can anyone help me get a game to full screen properly with compiz fusion running?
[05:20] <tanath> it works fine in metacity, but with CF the gnome panels stay on top
[05:21] <cybergig> Yes orbisvicis the bug went away when I disabled cf, strange though gusty and netbeans worked the last time I installed gusty with cf on.
[05:21] <fcmatt> anybody got any ideas?  http://pastebin.ca/844832
[05:21] <FastZ> everytime i try to install linux-restricted-modules, i get an error "nvidia-kernel-common: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"  "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured"
[05:21] <jcrawford> did i hear that a new version was released?
[05:22] <jcrawford> any idea if it will now support the airport card in the mac pro?
[05:22] <tanath> you're asking others what you heard? :P
[05:22] <Nrbelex> Is wicd going to be included in the main repositories in the near future?
[05:22] <jcrawford> lol well is it true?
[05:22] <jcrawford> all i see on the site is gutsy
[05:22] <FastZ> anyone know what might be causing that error that I'm getting?
[05:22] <kr00l> Need help installing MythTV
[05:22] <Madpilot> jcrawford, new version of Ubuntu? Not until April
[05:22] <jcrawford> maddler: ah ok cool ;)
[05:23] <jcrawford> err Madpilot  even
[05:23] <fcmatt> jcrawford: still at 7.10 Gutsy
[05:23] <nowshining> hardy heron is in development gutsy is the latest stable version and what madpilot said
[05:23] <nowshining> and fcmatt said
[05:23] <DarkW0lf> ok I've got a question: is there a way to get my wireless connection to automatically get an IP address?
[05:23] <allobject1> UnNaturalHigh: still about ?
[05:23] <fcmatt> darkw0lf: should be automati
[05:23] <fcmatt> darkw0lf: should be automatic
[05:24] <DarkW0lf> right now I have to 'sudo ifdown wlan0;sudo ifup wlan0' cause it doesn't do it
[05:24] <Cpudan80> Are aren't they going to change the color schemes in Hardy Heron?
[05:24] <Sonja> how do i open the partition manager???
[05:24] <justin_> hey anyone know of any good webpage programmers/editors for ubuntu
[05:24] <tanath> anyone run full screen apps in compiz fusion without probs?
[05:25] <tanath> justin_, nvu is one...
[05:25] <tanath> justin_, makes standards compliant code
[05:25] <pHro> hi
[05:25] <Cpudan80> NVU is pretty much the only one I think
[05:25] <justin_> tanath: what?
[05:25] <trurl> Hi. A have a dual-monitor setup, its working (two different x-screens), BUT the second screen wont show ANY window controls (title, close/maximize, border), can ANYONE HELP?
[05:25] <Cpudan80> The only WYSIWYG anyway
[05:25] <tanath> justin_, it makes code that comlies with the standards set for the web
[05:26] <lgc> CarlFK, hurray! Got it!
[05:26] <trurl> Im using 7.10 and the nvidia driver
[05:26] <CarlFK> lgc: nice.
[05:26] <tanath> justin_, most browsers try to comply with the standards... IE somewhat less so
[05:26] <FastZ> Sonja:  gparted
[05:26] <justin_> tanath: yes thats wat i need WYSIWYG all that, and something with php would be nice
[05:26] <Sonja> thanks
[05:26] <tanath> justin_, but it's best to code for standards compliance and use the IE hacks to make it work in IE
[05:26] <FastZ> Sonja: just type that in a terminal window or Alt+F2
[05:26] <matkix> How do you manage themes with Compiz? I'm new to it... I use to use beryl
[05:26] <ac7ss> how do I find the /dev for the serial port?
[05:26] <nowshining> justin have u searched in synaptic packaga manager
[05:27] <justin_> nowshining: no i havent
[05:27] <tanath> justin_, check out nvu. it's in the repos
[05:27] <justin_> tanath: so in synaptic??
[05:27] <lgc> CarlFK, the page you directed me to instructed me to do what I suspected: edit the 'intruder blocking' feature of the DSL modem.
[05:27] <tanath> justin_, there's a few others to try too
[05:27] <tanath> justin_, yep
[05:27] <astro76> ac7ss: first serial port should be /dev/ttyS0
[05:27] <DarkW0lf> matkix: system > apperences > Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[05:27] <nowshining> thatta be a good place to start justin :)
[05:27] <justin_> ok thnx
[05:28] <nowshining> ur welcome
[05:28] <tanath> matkix, you have system > prefs > emerald theme manager? if not install emerald
[05:28] <matkix> DarkW0lf, I want to download and add themes, do I need to install Emerald?
[05:28] <DarkW0lf> matkix: no idea...
[05:28] <justin_> tanath: i got nothing in synaptic
[05:28] <DarkW0lf> matkix: I did
[05:28] <justin_> which repos do i need to add
[05:28] <justin_> or is there a terminal command
[05:29] <tanath> justin_, hrm. you have all the repos enabled?
[05:29] <justin_> tanath: no just defaults
[05:29] <tanath> justin_, you can enable them in add/remove or in synaptic prefs
[05:29] <fcmatt> shpook: got it downloaded and installing it now
[05:29] <tanath> justin_, gives you access to lots more stuff
[05:29] <astro76> !info kompozer | justin_ this is what used to be nvu
[05:29] <ubotu> justin_ this is what used to be nvu: kompozer: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.10-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 8510 kB, installed size 26160 kB
[05:30] <nowshining> system - administration - sofware sources as well
[05:30] <justin_> tanath: yeah but i didnt want to screw anything up so do i just need to add all repos?
[05:30] <nowshining> :)
[05:30] <tanath> oh
[05:30] <nowshining> don't worry justin u won't hurt anything just by enabling them - remember to re-load when asked
[05:30] <tanath> justin_, won't mess anything up, but as astro76 just pointed out, it's been renames
[05:30] <tanath> justin_, *renamed
[05:30] <justin_> tanath: so enable all the repos?
[05:31] <tanath> justin_, search for kompozer
[05:31] <ac7ss> thanks astro.
[05:31] <matkix> tanath, I installed emerald and imported my theme... now do I need to set up emerald to run or something so that my theme will take effect?
[05:31] <nowshining> yes justin, except for sources if u don't want software sources
[05:31] <nowshining> :)
[05:31] <tanath> matkix, been a while... i believe it automatically uses it... try and see
[05:31] <FastZ> is there any way to install fglrx without installing the restricted kernel modules?
[05:31] <justin_> tanath: i have a rebuilt sources.list do i just enable all of them in the sources.list generator
[05:31] <tanath> matkix, run 'compiz --replace'
[05:32] <alka_trash> Hey all
[05:32] <lgc> CarlFK, I still have some questions, though: I could connect to my server through the remote machine because  the portforward.com page displays my actual IP. How can I get it (seemingly 'ifconfig' doesn't do the trick).
[05:32] <tanath> justin_, you don't need to touch your sources.list. for one, i told you you can enable them in synaptic. for another you've been told twice that it's been renamed to kompozer
[05:32] <FastZ> and why when i need to install restricted modules am I required to install nvidia-kernal-common as well?  I dont even have an nvidia graphics card
[05:32] <matkix> tanath, that did it... now how do I get it to keep that setting so when i reboot it all stays as it.
[05:33] <justin_> tanath: sorry i misunderstood
[05:33] <tanath> matkix, compiz should automatically use that theme now. all you need to do is make sure compiz runs when you log in
[05:33] <kab> hey has anyone had any experience openvpn
[05:33] <tanath> matkix, just add it to your session (system > prefs > sessions)
[05:33] <kab> with openvpn*
[05:34] <matkix> tanath, wow... I think that theme just made something crash I have no window manager now.
[05:34] <tanath> matkix, if it's not in your session, add compiz with the 'compiz --replace' command
[05:34] <lgc> CarlFK, and the other question is, if I had all unsolicited incoming traffic blocked out by the router, why can my machine be a working part of a p2p network?
[05:34] <alka_trash> I'm currently running 768mb of ram, do you peeps think that maxing out my lappy with 2gb will help out?
[05:34] <tanath> matkix, ah, the window decoration thing. i've seen that before
[05:34] <matkix> tanath,  The only thing I can see is irc and I can't get to the desktop
[05:35] <tanath> matkix, press alt+f2 and run 'compiz --replace'
[05:35] <tanath> matkix, if that doesn't work, run 'metacity --replace'
[05:35] <astro76> alka_trash: help with what?
[05:35] <tanath> matkix, then, i'd suggest enabling the crash handler plugin in compiz prefs, and setting it to do that automatically if it crashes
[05:35] <matkix> alt f2 didn't do anything
[05:36] <CarlFK> lgc: your box can connect to my box and  do 2 things: give me data, what data to you want?  - my box can answer with both.  such is P2P
[05:36] <alka_trash> astro76: I was thinking it might be snappier,
[05:36] <ant1> Hello, I installed gnash, yet I can't see it on Firefox when I browse to about:plugins
[05:36] <tanath> matkix, note, it's not ALT, then F2. you hold alt and tap f2
[05:36] <matkix> No such lick
[05:36] <matkix> luck*
[05:36] <astro76> alka_trash: it will only help if you are running enough programs to use up your ram and start using swap
[05:36] <matkix> I held alt and tapped f2 no go.
[05:36] <CarlFK> lgc:  if all boxes were behind a locked down firewall (like your router) it wouldn't work so good.
[05:37] <astro76> alka_trash: you can see if you are using swap with 'free -m'
[05:37] <astro76> alka_trash: that said, more ram never hurts ;)
[05:37] <alka_trash> astro76:  good idea
[05:37] <tanath> matkix, can you go to System > prefs> adv desktop effects ?
[05:37] <matkix> no...
[05:37] <matkix> All I can get to is xchat
[05:37] <marginoferror> How do I pair a bluetooth device with my Ubuntu computer?
[05:37] <tanath> matkix, you can't see the gnome panel at the top of the screen?
[05:37] <matkix> nope
[05:38] <astro76> alka_trash: and actually I take that back, it can make your system 'snappier', as linux will use free ram as cache
[05:38] <tanath> matkix, does xchat have the title bar at the top?
[05:38] <matkix> yep
[05:38] <tanath> matkix, ok, then your window manager is running, it's the gnome panel that crashed
[05:38] <matkix> er menu bar that is
[05:38] <lgc> CarlFK, I don't get it: I've transfered a couple of GB out of my machine as per other peer's petitions.
[05:38] <tanath> matkix, oh
[05:38] <alka_trash> astro76: I think that I'm going to do it, that way I can use all my laptop crappy shared memory ( 128 ) and not feel guilty
[05:38] <nowshining> to re-start the gnome-panel - open up a terminal and type killall gnome-panel
[05:39] <tanath> matkix, so xchat is full screen then?
[05:39] <tanath> nowshining, how do you propose he run a terminal? :P
[05:39] <matkix> yep
[05:39] <nowshining> in alt + f2
[05:39] <alka_trash> astro76:  Thanks
[05:39] <nowshining> gnome-terminal
[05:39] <allobjects> UnNaturalHigh: after running sysv-rc-conf and placing check mark on run level 2-6 & S rebooting still does not start the wireless ... should I stop wasting time and go buy a new supported $50 wireless card ?
[05:39] <tanath> nowshining, doesn't work. window manager crashed
[05:39] <astro76> alka_trash: no problem
[05:39] <nowshining> or click run in terminal
[05:39] <matkix> tanath, yep
[05:39] <nowshining> i mean check mark
[05:39] <CarlFK> lgc: and you can send email.  'same thing'
[05:40] <CarlFK> lgc: by exposing your box, more P2Ps will be able to connect to you, so you should see improved performance
[05:40] <tssom> how do i find the chipset of my wifi?
[05:40] <tssom> lspci is it?
[05:40] <allobjects> anyone recommend a brand/model/revision of PCI wireless card that is rock solid and flawless gutsy support ?
[05:41] <tanath> matkix, you're gonna have to log out and back in again. close xchat and see if you can see the gnome panel to log out. if not, press ctrl+alt, backspace. that will kill x and any GUI apps running dropping you back at the login screen
[05:41] <astro76> tssom: lspci and lshw
[05:41] <lgc> CarlFK, I only enabled ssh connections... I didn't see 'MLDonkey' on the applications list.
[05:42] <fallore> i'm on the live cd currently installing ubuntu 7.10 on this computer and i realized i dont know how much ram this computer has and therefore dont know how big to make my swap partition. how can i find out?
[05:42] <dontpanic> Hi, what program can I use to completely clear an entire disk?
[05:42] <DarkW0lf> fallore: if you leave the partitions as is, it should set it automatically
[05:42] <tssom> astro76: product: 82801H (ICH8 Family) would that be the chipset?
[05:42] <alka_trash> allobjects: hmmm
[05:43] <CarlFK> lgc: "port forwarding" is the basic concept.  that site should have lots of explanations - you are getting into 'advanced' networking, and I have a feeling you should first just learn basic networking
[05:43] <astro76> fallore: in a terminal, free -m
[05:43] <DarkW0lf> dontpanic: format?
[05:43] <allobjects> What is the best supported wireless PCI card for a gutsy desktop ?
[05:43] <DarkW0lf> allobjects: no idea
[05:44] <DarkW0lf> my one seems to be fine and it's a cheap one so it shouldn't really be a problem
[05:44] <fallore> astro76: it says "total 1010," does that mean its got a gig of ram?
[05:44] <astro76> tssom: that looks like a modem
[05:44] <astro76> fallore: yes
[05:44] <lgc> CarlFK, OK, ok! I'll do my RTFM chore!
[05:44] <fallore> try astro76
[05:45] <tssom> astro76: PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection
[05:45] <lgc> CarlFK, but I regret I now must go on to dyndns stuff. I need to have my machine ready by tomorrow... thanks again.
[05:45] <tssom> it's not a modem
[05:45] <dontpanic> Not format, I mean like completely clear everything
[05:46] <dontpanic> I think i've screwed up some of the partition stuff
[05:46] <CarlFK> lgc: it is worth it.  you will spend less time guessing at things later
[05:46] <dontpanic> Or maybe I do want to format, but I thought partitions were formatted, not the whole disk
[05:46] <lgc> CarlFK, I figure. 'Later.
[05:46] <Karl^> search ebay for "diskrub"
[05:46] <nowshining> dontpanic what did u use to partition?
[05:46] <dontpanic> Lots of stuff :S
[05:47] <dontpanic> Gparted, fdisk, the ubuntu installer
[05:47] <zetheroo> is there an application for faxing over the internet in Ubuntu?
[05:47] <Master_> i have a problem installing 7.10 from cd: i always end up in initrd's ash with or without error msgs: first it complainet about a non 8139c+ compatible chip (i use realtek 8139c fast ethernet pci card) and that i should use 8139too instead of 8139cp driver????  then i removed the card and now i end up in the same terminal without any (?!) error messages? where to begin searching? any suggestions if its possible to install ubunto from cd?
[05:47] <nowshining> dontpanic, did u use the gui in gparted?
[05:47] <dontpanic> yeah
[05:47] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone here used ubuntu on a macbook?  Looking to copy your xorg.conf  : )
[05:48] <der|kunstler> hi there, I'm having problems with ubuntu 7.10 64-bit, I'm trying to execute a file, and I get a "No such file or directory" error even though the file exists and is executable
[05:48] <nowshining> are u new partitioning?
[05:49] <dontpanic> yeah
[05:49] <neeto> what does ~/. mean?
[05:49] <Suva> ~ means home directory
[05:49] <dontpanic> If I put a new partition table on each disk does that clear everything?
[05:49] <neeto> I see
[05:49] <nickrud> so does ~/.
[05:49] <dontpanic> Or could something still be screwed up?
[05:49] <der|kunstler> that means home
[05:49] <neeto> thanks
[05:50] <Master_> can someone help me getting the initrd on the 7.10 desktop i386 cd in a working condition?
[05:50] <Suva> Basically yeah, weird way to write it though
[05:50] <neeto> word
[05:50] <nickrud> der|kunstler: are you sure you're in the same directory, or using the full file path?
[05:50] <der|kunstler> neeto,  do this:    echo ~
[05:50] <angel> hello room
[05:50] <Suva> ~ expands to /home/yourusername
[05:50] <Suva> So /home/yourusername/.
[05:50] <zetheroo> anyone?
[05:50] <der|kunstler> nickrud, swar to god, I'm not new in linux at all, but I'm wondering why bash is doing this, I've tried with more shells and still no go
[05:50] <neeto> oh I see...
[05:50] <Suva> . is basically a link to he current directory
[05:51] <nowshining> der|kunstler, does it have spaces if so, u'll need to put ' and ' in in the beginning and end of it, althernatively u could use the tab for compeletion of the name.
[05:51] <bullgard4> Gnome menu > System > Preferences > Hardware Information > Device Manager lists 'Platform Devices' eisa.0, i8042, iTCO_wdt, pcspkr, serial8250. What are 'platform devices'?
[05:51] <nowshining> dontpanic, u need to learn a bit about partitioning before u do any partitioning and how to do it
[05:51] <der|kunstler> nowshining, gotcha, tried that too
[05:51] <der|kunstler> root@ernie-desktop:/home/ernie# ls -l /usr/autodesk/maya8.5-x64/bin/apcw
[05:51] <der|kunstler> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 72047 2006-08-22 13:56 /usr/autodesk/maya8.5-x64/bin/apcw
[05:51] <der|kunstler> root@ernie-desktop:/home/ernie# /usr/autodesk/maya8.5-x64/bin/apcw
[05:51] <der|kunstler> bash: /usr/autodesk/maya8.5-x64/bin/apcw: No such file or directory
[05:51] <angel> does gutsy install samba by default
[05:51] <der|kunstler> there u go, the file exists already
[05:51] <nickrud> bullgard4: platform in this context means the hardware system
[05:51] <fcmatt> what's the compiz channel?
[05:52] <der|kunstler> angel, u mean the server or the client ?
[05:52] <nickrud> #compiz-fusion fcmatt
[05:52] <fcmatt> thanks, nickrud
[05:52] <Suva> zetheroo: Faxing over internet?
[05:52] <bullgard4> nickrud: well, and what are 'platform devices' then?
[05:52] <angel> der|kunstler, client
[05:52] <der|kunstler> angel, nautilus has samba client builtin
[05:52] <zetheroo> Suva: yes
[05:52] <der|kunstler> angel,    smb://ip-address
[05:52] <alka_trash> allobjects: this looks like a nice place to start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[05:52] <Suva> zetheroo: Does anyone actually use fax nowadays?
[05:52] <der|kunstler> nickrud, nowshining  any ideas :-D
[05:52] <HoboBen> Hi. Quick Q about VirtualBox running XP on Ubuntu: What's performance like, provided I have the RAM? Will it take 100% of my CPU or just the same as XP normally takes?
[05:53] <zetheroo> Suva: yes
[05:53] <angel> der|kunstler, how do i configure it? i want to connect to this PC from a windows
[05:53] <nickrud> bullgard4: the thinks in your hardware: pcspkr is pc speaker , serial8250 is the serial port . The others I'd have to look up
[05:53] <alka_trash> allobjects: From my experiences with wireless, hope for the best but if it doesn't work just plan on taking it back for another one
[05:53] <der|kunstler> angel, in that case u need samba-server
[05:53] <angel> apt-get install sambas-server ?
[05:54] <angel> der|kunstler, apt-get install sambas-server ?
[05:54] <der|kunstler> angel, tried that already, I'm new to ubuntu
[05:54] <nowshining> der|kunstler, where is this file located? Desktop/home
[05:54] <der|kunstler> angel, try   apt-cache search samba
[05:54] <nickrud> der|kunstler: is apcw a link to a non-existent file?
[05:54] <der|kunstler> nickrud, root@ernie-desktop:/usr/autodesk/maya8.5-x64/bin# file apcw
[05:54] <der|kunstler> apcw: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[05:54] <oldude67> hoboBen, what cpu are your running?
[05:54] <nickrud> der|kunstler: well, you have me
[05:55] <der|kunstler> nickrud, that's an executable :P hehe
[05:55] <HoboBen> oldude67 some cheap 1.7 Ghz Dual Core Pentium
[05:55] <bullgard4> nickrud: I am not so much interested in these details. I am interested in the technical term 'platform devices'. What does 'platform devices' comprise?
[05:55] <oldude67> HoboBen, i run a singlecore p4 and it doesnt take all of it.
[05:56] <alka_trash> allobjects: this too https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html
[05:56] <nickrud> bullgard4: devices that are part of the platform, that is, devices that are part of the hardware system
[05:56] <supersako> anyone here using ubuntu on a t61p or a thinkpad? i am having trouble setting up hibernate i finally got suspend working
[05:56] <der|kunstler> nickrud, any ideas ? :P
[05:56] <Suva> zetheroo: Probably there is something, apt-cache search fax ip
[05:56] <Carly> anyone here know why my ubuntu install dies at select and install software?
[05:56] <HoboBen> olddude67 how much does it take on that then? I'm just wondering if it'll run for longer than an hour without the laptop overheating.
[05:56] <nickrud> der|kunstler: as soon as I saw the file info, I said: <nickrud> der|kunstler: well, you have me
[05:57] <zetheroo> Suva: I am looking for something simple
[05:57] <der|kunstler> nickrud, ok
[05:57] <nowshining> bullgard4, i also have a P4 is ur HT? mines not and the CPU goes to 100% a lot but compared to XP I can actually still use the computer and for HoboBen ur dual core pentiums should be fine, P4s were only made with one long pipeline which sometimes does suck :/
[05:57] <bullgard4> nickrud: I cannot agree with you. For example, the High Definition Audio Controller 82801FB is not termed a 'platform device'.
[05:58]  * nickrud goes back to buckaroo bonzai
[05:58] <nowshining> HoboBen, XP also should be fine without a lot of CPU
[05:58] <oldude67> oh well im on a desktop, so you would also have to ask someone that is running a laptop.
[05:58] <Suva> I haven't sent faxes since maybe year 91, so I have no idea what is out there so far, but some random searches showed me people are sending faxes with linux over ip
[05:58] <oldude67> thanks nowshining
[05:58] <nickrud> bullgard4: oh, it is, but it's broken out because sound is something that people think of differently
[05:58] <bullgard4> nickrud: well...
[05:59] <nickrud> bullgard4: no one ever said that english was consistent
[05:59] <nowshining> oldude67, ur welcome :)
[05:59] <fallore> is there a program for linux that will rip and convert DVD's?
[05:59] <papucho> holaaaaaa
[05:59] <der|kunstler> fallore, mplayer
[05:59] <papucho> como estan
[05:59] <nowshining> serpentine
[05:59] <HoboBen> nowshining, olddude7 - thanks. Now if only Microsoft had an open source version of English, so I could try it before I spend £100! :-)
[05:59] <HoboBen> *Microsoft
[05:59] <nowshining> default for gutsy
[05:59] <nowshining> hehe HoboBen
[05:59] <DarkW0lf> is there a fix for my wireless lan not getting it's IP address automatically?
[06:00] <papucho> hablan español?????????
[06:00] <der|kunstler> papucho, dime
[06:00] <nickrud> !es | papucho
[06:00] <ubotu> papucho: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:00] <DarkW0lf> everytime I start my computer and such, I have to run 'sudo ifdown wlan0;sudo ifup wlan0' to get it working again
[06:00] <Guren> hi, has anyone have any problems where the buttons in youtube don't show up well?
[06:00] <bullgard4> nickrud: Another example: The Express Graphics controller Mobile 915GM is not called a 'platform device' either.
[06:00] <papucho> ubotu gracias
[06:00] <yaro> Hello
[06:00] <Suva> papucho: /join #ubuntu-es
[06:00] <nowshining> hi yaro
[06:00] <Guren> like you can't advance to the movie
[06:00] <nickrud> bullgard4: yup. Usually found in a pci card, not the motherboard. But sound is ....
[06:00] <yaro> I am having a problem with gcc and g++.
[06:01] <nowshining> oh sorry fallore it's sound juicer
[06:01] <nowshining> that's the program that extracts cds :P
[06:01] <fallore> nowshining: that sounds like something that would work for audio cds, not movie dvd's
[06:02] <orma> why am I having trouble streaming for example m3u streams, I have tried different players (vlc,mplayer....u name it)
[06:02] <bullgard4> nickrud: My laptop computer has soldered the Mobile 915GM Express Graphics controller soldered on the motherboard.
[06:02] <nickrud> fallore: dvdrip does that, along with some others that escape me.  apt-cache dvd rip probably would show you more
[06:02] <yaro> Whenever I try to compile with g== I get spammed with a bunch of compiler errors that seem to suggest somehow my standard C and C++ libraries are... broken? D:
[06:02] <yaro> g++*
[06:02] <nickrud> bullgard4: but is your laptop the only way it can be done?
[06:02] <nowshining> oh movies/dvds sorry hehe :) miss read, fallore as for dvds have u tried searching in synaptic package manger?
[06:03] <nowshining> i think k3b maybe one
[06:03] <orma> anyone?
[06:03] <nickrud> yaro: did you install build-essential , or just gcc ?
[06:03] <fallore> nowshining: thats my plan, but i'm on the live cd installing right now (and its partitioning) so it would be dreadfully slow, i plan on it eventually though
[06:03] <yaro> I can try re-installing build-essential. I don't think one can install g++ without it, anyway. Let me check.
[06:03] <nickrud> fallore: that is, apt-cache search dvd rip
[06:03] <bullgard4> nickrud: No, certainly not. But the Device Manager is supposed to give accurate information about my laptop computer.
[06:04] <fallore> ah, thanks nickrud, that one before didn't work
[06:04] <nickrud> bullgard4: yes. But, and this is very important, it doesn't have to match your hardware physically, only logically
[06:05] <bullgard4> nickrud: I see your point. --  Thank you very much for commenting.
[06:05] <nowshining> fallore, when u install after installing make sure to go into system - administration - software sources and enable everything but enabling sources is optional
[06:06] <nowshining> Oriona, what exact sreaming problems are u having? we need more details
[06:06] <newbie> I need some help. I have my keyboard configured to english, but I also need to configure it in spanish, but I do not know how to do it. where can I find the option to switch the keyboard to spanish?
[06:06] <nowshining> i mean orma
[06:06] <nowshining> oops wrong person :D
[06:06] <yaro> nickrud: I did a complete removal followed by an install of build-essential. Didn't work.
[06:07] <fallore> nowshining: you mean in ubuntu options or the options of a program you recommended me?
[06:07] <up_the_irons> I have an Intel Core 2 Duo server (new), and I want to install the 7.10 server edition.  Should I pick the i386 ISO or the AMD ISO (which says "64-bit AMD or Intel" next to it)?
[06:07] <nickrud> newbie: system->admin->language support, then right click the panel and add the keyboard indicator to switch easily
[06:07] <trav1085> I'd choose i386
[06:07] <orma> suomipojat käsi ylös!!
[06:07] <astro76> up_the_irons: either will work
[06:07] <aladdinsane> is there a way to completely shut off a hdd in ubuntu, so it doesnt spin up untill you run a command? Right now i use hdparm -y to shut it off, but then it spins up when i open my filebrowser, which i dont want it to (talking about my second hdd)
[06:07] <nickrud> newbie: also, system->prefs->keyboard layout , add button to add a spanish keyboard
[06:07] <nowshining> fallore, that enables u to view, and download other repositories for more apps, games, etc.. :) and remember to re-load when asked to...
[06:08] <andruu> is there a way to have control click right click the same way it works in os x?
[06:08] <orma> aladdinsane: umount it
[06:08] <nowshining> yaro, what exactly are the errors, give us a snippet?
[06:08] <up_the_irons> astro76: i would like to use 64-bit if possible, so if I pick the AMD ISO, will I get options more suited for 64-bit ?
[06:08] <trav1085> irons, that's still kinda confusing but I would choose i386 still
[06:08] <nickrud> yaro: could it be that you're simply missing some headers for the libraries you're trying to use?
[06:08] <trav1085> Well
[06:08] <astro76> up_the_irons: you will get a complete 64bit system
[06:08] <trav1085> Yeah
[06:08] <up_the_irons> astro76: ok thanks
[06:08] <fallore> will do nowshining
[06:08] <yaro> I'll send you a snippet. Maybe 3-4 lines.
[06:08] <up_the_irons> trav1085: yeah it's confusing
[06:08] <trav1085> But isn't there an i386 only 64 bit?
[06:08] <nowshining> :) fallore
[06:09] <aladdinsane> orma: how do i unmount an internal hdd?
[06:09] <up_the_irons> trav1085: not on here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[06:09] <astro76> trav1085: nope, amd64 is for both intel and amd 64bit cpus
[06:09] <trav1085> Ok
[06:09] <orma> aladdinsane: man umount
[06:09] <yaro> /usr/include/c++/4.1.3/bits/basic_string.tcc:285: error: no type named ‘size_type’ in ‘struct std::allocator<wchar_t>’
[06:09] <yaro> /usr/include/c++/4.1.3/bits/basic_string.h:884: error: no type named ‘size_type’ in ‘struct std::allocator<wchar_t>’
[06:09] <yaro> /usr/include/c++/4.1.3/bits/basic_string.tcc:263: error: no type named ‘size_type’ in ‘struct std::allocator<wchar_t>’
[06:09] <yaro> /usr/include/c++/4.1.3/bits/basic_string.h:928: error: no type named ‘size_type’ in ‘struct std::allocator<wchar_t>’
[06:09] <yaro> Forgive the spam.
[06:09] <astro76> !paste | yaro
[06:09] <ubotu> yaro: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:09] <yaro> Oops. Sorry.
[06:10] <trav1085> umount \dev\hdd0     Usually internal HDs are hdd and the number is the suffix
[06:10] <trav1085> Still read the man
[06:10] <tara> hi, how do I get DVD playback to work?
[06:10] <orma> aladdinsane: :) seriosly, if its a plain hdd, no other partitions on it... then no problem umounting
[06:10] <astro76> !dvd | tara
[06:10] <ubotu> tara: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:10] <trav1085> That's an awesome bot
[06:10] <nickrud> yaro: one line would have sufficed, and I see your point.  There is one peculiar thing, however...
[06:11] <nowshining> yaro, is this an update to an already program available in the ubuntu repos?
[06:12] <nowshining> that ur trying to compile urself yaro
[06:12] <yaro> No, this is a project of my own.
[06:12] <amicrawler> IS  there a app that can ping my network so i can find my printer ip ?
[06:12] <ushimitsudoki> How can I check on what my desktop is loading when I log on? For some reason, it is taking a long time after logging in, "Search All Notes" from Tomboy pops up everytime, and the background image and panels take a long time (about 1 min.) to load.
[06:12] <aladdinsane> nowshining, ok thnx that was simple, can i put something in fstab so it always starts unmounted?
[06:12] <DanaG> Gutsy does amazing things for battery life.
[06:13] <tara> astro76, I've already done all that but I can see the first legal warning screen of the DVD and then it says the source seems to be encrypted, are you trying to play a DVD without DVD CSS. However, have libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 installed
[06:13] <shadowh511> danag: true that
[06:13] <mhiku> how to know the server distro?
[06:13] <Taa5i> My install of 7.10 seems to be hung at 40% of configuring apt scanning the mirror for over an hour now.  Any ideas please?
[06:13] <astro76> aladdinsane: yes with the noauto option
[06:13] <DanaG> Pentium M 1.6 GHz notebook, with Intel 8-something IGP: new battery in Windows: 2 hours, or perhaps 2.5.  In Gutsy, it gets 3.5 to 4 hours.
[06:13] <amicrawler> IS  there a app that can ping my network so i can find my printer ip ?
[06:13] <DanaG> (not my notebook, so I don't have a better estimate.)
[06:13] <Taa5i> amicrawler: nmap or ping -b
[06:13] <nickrud> amicrawler: nmapfe
[06:13] <navetz> can anyone help me fix my sound
[06:13] <nowshining> hmm, aladdinsane  not that i know of why do u want it unmounted automatically, i have an internal extra hard disk that's not mounted automatically weird
[06:13] <astro76> tara: hmm, try with vlc
[06:14] <navetz> when i type alsamixer in my terminal i get: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[06:14] <nowshining> yaro,  what is the program ur trying to compile called? what does it do?
[06:14] <navetz> does anyone have any ideas
[06:14] <Jeah> Does anyone know where debootstrap finds the release codename?  I'm doing an alternate install of Xubuntu Gutsy (it's actually a very much more complicated situation, but we can get into that if necessary) and I get the following error in the "Install the base system" part of the installation: "Debootstrap Error: Failed to determine the codename for the release."  The md5sum checked out when I downloaded the iso and the cd integrity check
[06:14] <DanaG> My DTR notebook with a Core Duo 1.83GHz and GeForce Go 7600 didn't have that kind of improvement, unfortunately -- but then again, my now 1.5 to 2-year-old battery getting the same life it got when new in Windows is still pretty good.
[06:14] <yaro> nowshining: The program I an compiling is a game engine project I am working on. However, it gave me these same errors with a simple console application.
[06:14] <DanaG> I get 1:45 to 2:00 tops; in Windows it's more like 1:30 to 1:45.  New was 2:00.
[06:15] <orma> aladdinsane: you ougth to really star using the command line *wink*
[06:15] <orma> start
[06:15] <neeto> what does &　mean on the command line
[06:15] <nowshining> aladdinsane, go into users and groups
[06:15] <aladdinsane> nowshining, i just dont want it mounted cause i just use it for backups and very rarely need to access it, i'll try the noauto option in fstab though
[06:15] <nowshining> find ur username
[06:15] <ushimitsudoki> neeto: run process in background
[06:15] <astro76> neeto: command & will start that command running in the background (as in bash job control)
[06:15] <bullgard4> neeto: This is explained in man bash.
[06:15] <neeto> thanks
[06:16] <Val_0> is anyone here using Bitchx?
[06:16] <nowshining> aladdinsane, properties, user Priveleges tab and un-check access exterbal devices automatically
[06:16] <nickrud> !language | Val_0 :)
[06:16] <ubotu> Val_0 :): Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:16] <b0nn> Hi all, I have two sound cards on my machine, the onboard via, which hasnt made a peep in years, and a fortemedia I added to give me sound.  How do I disable the via from getting sound modules loaded and, ensure that the other card gets the sound drivers loaded?  one further complication is that I have a phillips tv card that also has sound on it
[06:16] <yaro> Another thing... and I think it might narrow down the problem... My SDL libraries are doing this too. Could it have anything to do with the linker, maybe?
[06:16] <DanaG> It's an offensively-named IRC app.
[06:16] <trey> anyone familiar with wahcade
[06:16] <newbie> nickrud: thank you!
[06:16] <Val_0> ???
[06:16] <nickrud> newbie: you found everything you needed?
[06:16] <astro76> Val_0: they are kidding
[06:17] <nickrud> Val_0: a joke, sorry
[06:17] <DanaG> Oh, about the two sound cards:
[06:17] <trey> wahcade help needed
[06:17] <nowshining> aladdinsane, when u do that - everytime u go to mount it u can either double-click it or right-click and mount and each and everytime u'll be asked for ur pw
[06:17] <Val_0> oh ok sorry guys, very new to this :D
[06:17] <DanaG> one way is to edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base to add lines as such:
[06:17] <supersako> i love ubuntu so much vista is going to get deleted right now off my laptop ;)
[06:17] <astro76> Val_0: there might be a #bitchx channel here, not sure, I know there's an #irssi ;)
[06:17] <trey> <==need help with wahcade!!
[06:17] <astro76> Val_0: or just ask your question here
[06:17] <fcmatt> how do i install xgl?
[06:17] <nowshining> yaro, what is the size of this project?
[06:17] <aladdinsane> nowshining: so i should not bother the noauto in fstab solution?
[06:17] <Val_0> i have been to BitchX channel, a few people there but no help/activity at all
[06:18] <DanaG> Sound card question: asoundconf list
[06:18] <supersako> anyone using ubuntu as their one and only os on their laptop?
[06:18] <nickrud> fcmatt: xserver-xgl for ati cards, you mean?
[06:18] <DanaG> asoundconf set-default-card Nameofcard
[06:18] <supersako> wondering if i should ditch vista
[06:18] <fcmatt> nickrud: i believe so.  did a "compiz --replace" and it comes back saying no xgl
[06:18] <navetz> supersako: i am
[06:18] <b0nn> DanaG: :)
[06:18] <Val_0> i just recently converted to using linux (after my millionth M$ issue) and have to learn new everything anew
[06:18] <b0nn> thanks
[06:18] <trey> wahcade anyone?
[06:18] <nowshining> u could try it either way aladdinsane it's up to u, in linux u can do it more than one way, GUI,  command line, etc...by editing some config files and so forth...
[06:18] <DanaG> It's always good to keep around some sort of Windows partition for the sake of running chkdsk on NTFS volumes, if nothing else.
[06:18] <nickrud> supersako: I used linux for years, no windows. Now I do for work, in a vm
[06:18] <supersako> yA
[06:18] <astro76> supersako: I am, but have been using linux for a *long* time
[06:19] <yaro> nowshining: All my source totals 4.4 KB. I've bearely started this project. But I don't think that's it, since a totally unrelated program has the same problem.
[06:19] <supersako> I figure i can always get VM
[06:19] <lawlez> can anyone explain to me the /dev/null joke?
[06:19] <navetz> godaddy sucks balls
[06:19] <nowshining> yaro, what other program gave u problems
[06:19] <orma> aladdinsane: always give your command line open.. thats more efficent way to do these administrative tasks
[06:19] <supersako> woot
[06:19] <Val_0> and i am using an IBM x23 so not everything new and cool runs on it great
[06:19] <nickrud> supersako: works fine, as long as you don't need accelerated graphics in windows
[06:19] <supersako> bye bye windows
[06:19] <astro76> !ohmy | navetz
[06:19] <ubotu> navetz: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:19] <trey> helpme with my wahcade
[06:19] <Greevous> How well do Macbook Pros work with Gutsy at this point? Wireless? Touchpad? Graphics?
[06:19] <navetz> lol
[06:19] <trey> mame problems here
[06:19] <marx2k> So, how do I figureSo, how do I figure out what can I do if it seems as though my current nForce chipset is currently unsupported in Ubuntu?
[06:20] <supersako> i have a 186GB hd to split up so 20GB for /, 6GB for swap, 160GB /home?
[06:20] <Val_0> i just need a doc on how to properly configure bitchx... the web site doesn't have anything of use and google comes up with random configs
[06:20] <nowshining> yaro, is this other program also in the repos?
[06:20] <zero88> is there a .deb or something in apt-get for java runtime envirement?
[06:20] <yaro> nowshining, a test program, using <string> and <stdio.h> to try to explode a string. Same errors, seems like the standard library doesn't work as demonstrated above.
[06:20] <astro76> lawlez: anything redirected to /dev/null disappears
[06:20] <DanaG> Snooty non-answer: use some OTHER irc app.
[06:20] <yaro> zero88 Check Synaptic.
[06:20] <astro76> Val_0: seems to be on par for command line irc clients
[06:20] <DanaG> Real answer: I haven't a clue.
[06:20] <nowshining> zero88, do u mean for firefox?
[06:20] <nowshining> n/m
[06:20] <supersako> will 20GB be enough ? or maybe have 30GB for / i plan on getting a VM of winxp maybe..
[06:20] <astro76> Val_0: try figuring out irssi at first ;)
[06:21] <tara> astro76, that didn't work either
[06:21] <nickrud> nowshining: you're missing the point, he's a developer having problems with an apparently broken ubuntu install.
[06:21] <nowshining> zero88, there is
[06:21] <b0nn> zero88: sun-java-something
[06:21]  * DanaG is glad to have a notebook that reports accurate wattages.  MacBook doesn't report ANY wattages.
[06:21] <zero88> yes for firefox
[06:21] <tara> astro76, is there something wrong with the css packages in ubuntu?
[06:21] <nowshining> nickrud, then u chime in and give an answer
[06:21] <astro76> tara: works fine here
[06:21] <DarkW0lf> 'Jan  7 16:52:39 Icarus kernel: [   26.632000] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready' I think this may be the reason why my ip address isn't being automatically connected
[06:21] <nowshining> and a fix nickrud
[06:21] <Val_0> astro76: i used to use mIRC on windows... never heard of irssi
[06:21] <yaro> Can I add one more thing?
[06:21] <astro76> tara: some new dvds have some new "copy protection" on them
[06:21] <nickrud> nowshining: I already talked with him, and my suggestions for fixing his c++ headers wasn't successful
[06:22] <nowshining> yaro, just chime in whenever
[06:22] <astro76> Val_0: if you are used to mirc you might check out xchat, also gui
[06:22] <brianski> there's some software which makes it easy to label oggs, mp3s, etc. in their native formats from e.g. rhythmbox but i can't remember the name... easy-something ?
[06:22] <nowshining> nickrud, via private?
[06:22] <supersako> nickrud how did you split up your laptop drive for / and /home and swap??
[06:22] <nickrud> yaro: apt-cache depends build-essential , reinstall those. just reinstalling build-essential won't go that deep
[06:22] <yaro> I also have Ubuntu Gutsy running on a virtual machine... I installed g++ there, too, and I got the same problem. I... don't know what to think about that.
[06:22] <astro76> brianski: EasyTag
[06:22] <nickrud> nowshining: sure
[06:22] <Val_0> astro76: ok, thanks, i'll check them out... but as far as bitchx no clue where to find a good manual?
[06:23] <astro76> no idea
[06:23] <drgeb> I am tring to build an application and after I run ./configure I get No package 'check' found how can I get check ??
[06:23] <nowshining> well if u talk in private i didn't know that = nickrud
[06:23] <nickrud> nowshining: no, before you chimed in. Sorry, misunderstood what you had said
[06:23] <zero88> whats the java for firefox??
[06:23] <Val_0> thanks anyhow
[06:23] <yaro> Is there a way to reinstall all those in one command?
[06:23] <brianski> astro76: thanks
[06:23] <Jeah> debatem1: let me know if/when you get back
[06:24] <Taa5i> My install of 7.10 seems to be hung at 40% of configuring apt scanning the mirror for over an hour now.  Any ideas please?
[06:25] <yaro> Taa5: Have you tried any alternate install methods?
[06:25] <astro76> Taa5i: try disconnecting the ethernet cable
[06:25] <nowshining> zero88, sudo apt-get install java6-runtime
[06:25] <kr00l> anyone use mythTV?
[06:25] <zero88> nowshining thanks
[06:25] <gyaresu> !anyone > kr00l
[06:26] <nowshining> zero88, as for firefox, u need the java plugin to display and play with certain things on sites that require the use of java and ur welcome
[06:26] <Taa5i> astro76:  The only adapter the installer recognizes is my wifi.
[06:26] <astro76> kr00l: lots of people, it's very popular ;)
[06:26] <kr00l> gyaresu: what?
[06:26] <gyaresu> kr00l: There is also a mythtv irc from what I recall.
[06:26] <astro76> Taa5i: ah
[06:26] <Taa5i> yaro: I'm using the ubuntu server 7.10 install cd
[06:26] <zero88> nowshining i found this online will this work    sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts
[06:26] <gyaresu> !anyone | kr00l
[06:26] <nickrud> yaro: try libstdc++6-4.1-dev
[06:26] <ubotu> kr00l: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:26] <varaonaid> hi, i just did a fresh install of gutsy on a second laptop and I can't change permissions on my vfat shared partition
[06:26] <varaonaid> can anyone please help?
[06:26] <nowshining> all will work
[06:26] <XiXaQ> if several users are running an identical application, like openoffice quickstart.. Is Linux intelligent enough to let them share that memory, or do each instance occupy the same amount of RAM?
[06:27] <nowshining> zero88, :) then re-start firefox once u install the sun java set u just mentioned
[06:27] <neeto> I am trying to install beryl by running the config script, but it says "configure: error: C compiler cannnot create excutables" how do I remedy this?
[06:27] <astro76> XiXaQ: there will be a separate process for each user, running as each user... however what makes this moot and linux highly efficient with memory is the extensive use of shared libraries
[06:28] <tssom> Will modprobe iwl4965 override the mac80211 driver?
[06:28] <shadowh511> neeto: version of ubuntu plz
[06:28] <neeto> 7.10
[06:28] <nickrud> neeto: install build-essential
[06:28] <irfanevrens> hello
[06:28] <yaro> Reinstalling build-essentials, and all its dependencies didn't work.
[06:28] <XiXaQ> astro76, ehrm.. Yes, I understand that they will run as different processes. I was wondering about memory usage.
[06:28] <irfanevrens> from Turkey
[06:28] <neeto> thanks
[06:29] <yaro> Taa5i: Are you usng any RAID drives or strange hardware configurations?
[06:29] <nickrud> yaro: hrm, was libstdc++6-4.1-dev listed as a dependency, apt-rdepends (recursive search of all dependencies) kicked that up at me
[06:29] <nowshining> if anyone wants to test if java works then u need to go here http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml and make sure java is enabled in firefox first tho before u test, aimed at zero88 i don't know if he/she left
[06:29] <nowshining> i mean the java plugin
[06:29] <elad`> Hello. I have one of those small ThinkPads, the 12". It has no optical drive. I want to install Ubuntu on it. Is there a way to do that with a disk on key?
[06:30] <c1|freaky> hi all. im trying to copy a partition using dd for backup. now, if i do that, it coppies data until the HDD is full - does anyone know why dd doesnt stop at 19GB (19GB are used on that partition) instead it's allready at arround 90GB ...
[06:30] <nickrud> !install | elad`
[06:30] <ubotu> elad`: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[06:30] <astro76> !install | elad`
[06:30] <nowshining> hi irfanevrens
[06:30] <yaro> nickrud: No, it wasn't... and I don't have a command apt-rdepends.
[06:30] <Taa5i> yaro: No RAID or anything strange, no.
[06:30] <astro76> c1|freaky: dd copies the whole disk including freespace, you could use partimage which will only copy used data
[06:31] <nickrud> yaro: it's a separate package you'll need to install
[06:31] <c1|freaky> astro76: no partimage will put the partition limitations on the new disc
[06:31] <yaro> Taa5i: Have you tried a text-only alternative disc?
[06:31] <elad`> Anyone here knows how I can also install WinXP on that notebook? I have an original CD, but there's no optical drive. I have a DOK. Help?
[06:31] <astro76> c1|freaky: I said nothing about partition limitations... just that dd copies free space and partimage doesn't
[06:31] <nowshining> yaro, try apt-get check-dep program name if u want to install a newer version by compiling it by hand and an older version is in the repos
[06:31] <nickrud> elad`: if there's a way, ##windows would probably know
[06:31] <c1|freaky> does anyonw know how to copy a partitions data (only the data not freespace) using DD so i can put that partiton back up on another server, with larger discs?
[06:32] <gyaresu> c1|freaky: astro76 I use dd_rescue for all recoveries. It's very good.
[06:32] <nowshining> yaro, i mean build-dep
[06:32] <elad`> nickrud, it's quite empty. Thanks for answering the first question, though.
[06:32] <alka_trash> c1|freaky: can't you do that with dump?
[06:32] <c1|freaky> astro76: i allready tried using partiimage. it puts up a partition on the new server with the size of the partition i backed up but the HDDs are 4 times as big so I dont want that
[06:32] <astro76> elad`: usb cdrom drive?
[06:32] <nowshining> yaro,  that gets the required dependencies that u need to compile
[06:33] <tssom> How do i update to 2.6.23 kernel?
[06:33] <nowshining> yaro apt-get --help for apt-get options
[06:33] <varaonaid> I tried to change the ownership for my vfat partition via right click as well as via fstab and neither worked. what do I need to do?
[06:33] <Taa5i> yaro:  The server disc is all ncurses,is that different than text-only?
[06:33] <c1|freaky> gyaresu: does dd_rescue copy empty spacE?
[06:33] <c1|freaky> I really only need a good backup. for putting it up on the new HDD
[06:34] <yaro> Taa5i: No, not really.
[06:34] <yaro> I don't think compiling it all by hand is what I need to do.
[06:34] <c1|freaky> I want to move a bootable partition / (root) to a new server with larger discs. i cant use partimage because it will put up a partition with the size of the old HDD. (leaving out the swap now)
[06:35] <markaa> hey... I have a webcam here that should work in Ubuntu with the Gspca/Spca5xx, drivers... but its not... please help
[06:35] <c1|freaky> dd copies the whole partition including empty space!!
[06:35] <c1|freaky> so how can I move my / (root) to a new server with larger discs?
[06:35] <c1|freaky> does anyone have a solution?
[06:35] <markaa> when I type in lsusb in the terminal I get this line: Bus 002 Device 009: ID 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.
[06:35] <markaa> anyone?
[06:36] <nowshining> tssom, u can follow a guide on the ubuntu forums to the latest hardy heron kernel or go to the kernel.org official archive of kernel and compile it by hand
[06:36] <markaa> please help
[06:36] <c1|freaky> i need to copy it over a network so i need an image file
[06:36] <sfears> i manually changed the settings in xorg.conf to put a better resolution on my second monitor (tv) but it still displays in a crappy resolution.. any ideas how i can fix this?
[06:37] <nowshining> tsairox, sorry i don't have a link yet
[06:37] <supersako> whats a good amount of space for / if i am gonna hve an xp vm partition on it as well
[06:37] <nowshining> tssom,  i meant beforehand and the link is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=646755&highlight=hardy+kernel
[06:37] <nickrud> c1|freaky: I would use tar, or maybe you can adapt http://tldp.org/HOWTO/text/Hard-Disk-Upgrade
[06:37] <khaotik> was good people
[06:37] <markaa> sfears: your playing with something that is really hit-n-miss
[06:38] <tssom> thanks
[06:38] <markaa> anyone help me with my webcam issue
[06:38] <markaa> ?
[06:38] <sfears> i also downloaded displayconfig-gtk.. but i didn't see the advanced button that was supposed to be there
[06:38] <nickrud> lol yaro sure why not bootstrap g++ :)
[06:38] <Darkmystere> can some 1 help me i keep gettin this error:E:Type 'multiverse' is not known on line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list, E:The list of sources could not be read.'
[06:38] <nowshining> and ur welcome tssom
[06:38] <c1|freaky> nickrud: i allready tried that using cp -a but then it didnt boot anymore
[06:38] <sfears> damn.. i have display on the tv screen.. but it's really choppy, i can't really use it for anything
[06:38] <khaotik> currently i am using 7.10 and thinking about switching to ultimate edition 1.6
[06:39] <yaro> nickrud: Explain bootstrap g++?
[06:39] <Darkmystere> i cant use any packet managers Until i fix it all give me that -.-
[06:39] <supersako> 2 questions: how much space do i need for / if i plan on having a big ubuntu install and a 10GB or so vm xp partition, also, how much swap space is necessary for a laptop with 3GB of ram if i want to use hibernate?
[06:39] <J-_> How well will Ubuntu run on a toshiba satellite a215-s4807
[06:39] <khaotik> anyone familiar with ultimate edition 1.6???
[06:39] <supersako> im thinking 30GB /, 6GB /swap
[06:39] <nickrud> yaro: use gcc to recompile gcc . one of the first steps in creating a linux from scratch
[06:39] <jinxed->  /join #compiz-fusion
[06:39] <astro76> supersako: 6gb swap sounds like way, way, way too much
[06:40] <supersako> even for a laptop with 3GB? i need to use hibernate
[06:40] <Starnestommy> Darkmystere: remove or comment out line 3 in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:40] <nowshining> supersako, for linux/ubuntu that should enough - if i read u want 30gb for ubuntu then yes
[06:40] <astro76> khaotik: hmm, that's pointless, ultimate is ubuntu with some customization and the awful Automatix, you don't need it
[06:40] <yaro> nickrud: How would I go about doing that, with GCC source?
[06:40] <elad`> astro76: USB stick. Sorry, I was afk. I'm reading something about doing it right now, but if you've got other ideas, I'd like to hear them.
[06:40] <nickrud> yaro: it was a joke, really. You don't wanna go that route
[06:40] <astro76> khaotik: and we won't support it in here
[06:40] <supersako> nowshining i was thinking 30GB for / and 150GB for /home
[06:41] <markaa> webcam anyone?
[06:41] <supersako> on the 30GB / i plan on having a windows xp vm as well
[06:41] <astro76> supersako: yes, then make it slightly larger than 3 GB
[06:41] <nickrud> yaro: I happened across the build-dep idea mentioned earlier
[06:41] <gyaresu> !webcam | markaa
[06:41] <ubotu> markaa: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:41] <khaotik> good looking on that. i am really happy with 7.10 and it took me forever to get running how i likes it
[06:41] <yaro> nickrud: I am almost tempted to backup and reinstall Linux... but thats a horribly sloppy and... er... Windows way of doing it, isn;t it?
[06:41] <astro76> supersako: like 3.1 ;)
[06:41] <nickrud> yaro: sometimes a big hammer is the right solution
[06:42] <markaa> gyaresu: did you see my previous post?
[06:42] <gyaresu> markaa: nope.
[06:42] <astro76> yaro: I first started with redhat 5, and reinstalled many times ;) it can be the quickest way when you're starting out
[06:42] <nowshining> Darkmystere, to do so, open up a terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d and put a # in front of the line or see if there are any spelling errors and correct them if need be
[06:42] <Detedagowa|WoW> hey all
[06:42] <khaotik> should i not download automatix??
[06:42] <markaa> gyaresu: I have a webcam here that should work in Ubuntu with the Gspca/Spca5xx, drivers... but its not..when I type in lsusb in the terminal I get this line: Bus 002 Device 009: ID 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.
[06:42] <astro76> !automatix | khaotik
[06:42] <ubotu> khaotik: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[06:43] <Detedagowa|WoW> is it against rules to post a link in irc?
[06:43] <Darkmystere> the 3rd line down
[06:43] <yaro> astro76, nickrud: An excellent point. And I have done it twice before. once simply becuse... I couldn't fix GRUB and had to to even use Linux... and the second time because my sound got all screwed up.
[06:43] <astro76> Detedagowa|WoW: not if it's relevant to you getting Ubuntu support
[06:43] <yaro> But I wonder if that would work, either...
[06:43] <Detedagowa|WoW> oh i joined an affiliate program trying to get the word out....:(
[06:43] <Detedagowa|WoW> im broke
[06:43] <nowshining> Darkmystere, yes should be
[06:43] <astro76> Detedagowa|WoW: that's a good way to get banned immediately
[06:43] <yaro> As I mentioned before, I installed Gutsy on a virtual machine and got the same problem.
[06:44] <nickrud> yaro: I've probably seen more reinstalls over sound, it's a complex subject these days and not many people understand it enough to help on line
[06:44] <Darkmystere> the .d part didint work for some reason
[06:44] <Madpilot> Detedagowa|WoW, this is a support channel. Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic - but no spam there, either, thanks
[06:44] <gyaresu> markaa: I'd normally love to help you but just realised I've got to eat something. Try again, someone might have a bit of time.
[06:44] <tssom> Does the 2.6.24 kernel support monitormode for the intel 4965 AGN card?
[06:44] <nowshining> hmmm
[06:44] <markaa> gyaresu: thanks
[06:44] <bulmer> if one uses the environment of the liveCD for chroot, is that safe enuff ? ie copying the filesystem.squashfs into the chrooted directory..
[06:45] <nowshining> doh Darkmystere that's a directory - my bad
[06:45] <nowshining> just leave off the .d part
[06:45] <miranda_> I am trying to run a dual display with two independant X sessions so that I can run both myth and kde, but my second video card will not show in lspci if my first video card is in place. Any idea why?
[06:45] <Darkmystere> Lol i commented out the 3rd line with #
[06:45] <Darkmystere> still same problem
[06:45] <nowshining> well i'm outta here - headache
[06:45] <yaro> Well, when I'm done with what I am doing tonight, I guess I'll backup and reinstall. NTFS-3G ftw.
[06:46] <khaotik> ubuntu rules!!!
[06:46] <yaro> Thank you all for your help. Is it alright if I stick around and help others?
[06:46] <bulmer> yaro yes please stick around and assist
[06:46] <nowshining> Darkmystere, try this remove all the contents of that file, by selecting all and backspace, save, exit, and try re-enabling sofware sources
[06:46] <nowshining> if need be - uncheck and re-check them
[06:46] <nowshining> :)
[06:46] <khaotik> i would like to thank u all for doing what yall do
[06:46] <Darkmystere> ok
[06:47] <Darkmystere> Command again ol
[06:47] <kr00l> how do i save my current session?
[06:47] <nowshining> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:47] <orma> anyone having trouble streamin radio over http, I have some kind of a buffering problem
[06:47] <Detedagowa|WoW> where can i get an ip spoofer?? or equivelenrt
[06:47] <Darkmystere> Nowshining_: thanks trying again
[06:47] <yaro> kr001: Are you talking about your Ubuntu session?
[06:47] <nowshining> orma, i had the same problem
[06:48] <nowshining> are u using VLC
[06:48] <markaa> webcam help needed
[06:48] <kr00l> yaro, correct i want to remember everything that's up currently
[06:48] <markaa> anyone?
[06:48] <orma> nowshining: yes...and tried almost everything else
[06:48] <astro76> !gksu | nowshining
[06:48] <ubotu> nowshining: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[06:48] <bulmer> Detedagowa|WoW, you already have it, use the iproute2 tools
[06:48] <Darkmystere> Err also i need help i couldnt get Ubuntu to shut down it got to the last bit of ther bar then shows somthing               About somthing Failing then it regos to the loading bar
[06:48] <yaro> kr001: System -> Preferences -> Sessions, on the Session Options Tab
[06:48] <nowshining> ubotu, gksudo and sudo is the same for me, no diff
[06:49] <Darkmystere> Now when i use my other Kernal that lets music work it doesnt work
[06:49] <nowshining> except for gksudo gives a graphical login to input ur pw
[06:49] <yaro> nowshining: Careful. Just two days ago I said the same thing/.
[06:49] <astro76> nowshining: ubotu is a bot, and you should read the link to see why
[06:49] <astro76> nowshining: it works for some things without problem, like gedit, but it's a bad habit
[06:49] <Darkmystere> Thanks that fixed my Problem =)
[06:49] <Darkmystere> not with the kernal the sorces
[06:50] <orma> nowshining: how did you solve the streaming problem
[06:50] <nowshining> ur welcome Darkmystere
[06:50] <nowshining> oh and ubotu lol
[06:50] <khaotik> quick question, when i shutdown my system my volume automatically mutes itself and i dont get to hear the sound its supposed to make.
[06:50] <Darkmystere> Nowshining i have a new problem >.>
[06:50] <nowshining> i didn't
[06:50] <phenom> Has any one noticed the package "anarchism" in the ubuntu/debian repo? :)
[06:50] <athe> is it normal to get wildly different IPs on the same system in win and ubuntu?
[06:50] <Darkmystere> Nowshining: lol dont get to intwined with the robots there adicting trust me >.>
[06:50] <yaro> athe: Are you behind a router?
[06:51] <athe> for example, in windows the box is being assigned 24.*.*.* and in ubuntu it's 67.*.*.*
[06:51] <athe> yaro: negative
[06:51] <Darkmystere> The robots in Madwifi Freak me out i called 1 Stupid and it said Stupid who u calling stupif we are bassed on AI Scrips
[06:51] <_WeNdi_> hooiiii
[06:51] <orma> nowshining: then it's a hardware problem... damn
[06:51] <Darkmystere> ...
[06:51] <nowshining> orma, if i open up a video with vlc, then re-open another one - it goes slow and messes up
[06:51] <nowshining> odd
[06:51] <yaro> athe: How about a proxy server?
[06:51] <nowshining> i dunno
[06:51] <nowshining> orma are u dial-up or cable, dsl?
[06:51] <nowshining> Darkmystere, lolz, and what's ur new problem
[06:51] <athe> yaro: no, just a cable modem
[06:51] <_WeNdi_> hhiiiii
[06:52] <orma> nowshining: dsl or may I say HomePNA
[06:52] <orma> 1M
[06:52] <Darkmystere> Nowshining Trust me Go say Dang forgot the robot name madWiki and itl repson like a human lol
[06:52] <Darkmystere> Well i cant login to my other kernal
[06:52] <nowshining> it may be a problem with VLC i think
[06:52] <athe> it's not an issue, really, i'm just curious why it happens
[06:52] <Darkmystere> It says the disk doesnt exsist but i was just logged into it it goes strait to the command prompt
[06:52] <yaro> athe: Sometimes with cable providers, your Internet-facing IP will be different than your "local" IP. But I'm not entirely certain why it is changing. I don't think it is a problem, either.
[06:53] <nowshining> Darkmystere, u mean log into ubuntu the kernel u can't log into
[06:53] <nowshining> :D
[06:53] <khaotik> anyone familliar with irfanview?
[06:53] <nowshining> and Darkmystere sorry i don't know ur problem
[06:53] <phenom> everyone: sudo apt-get anarchism
[06:53] <phenom> :)
[06:53] <orma> nowshining: how can it be... I've tries to increase the buffering.... nothing works
[06:53] <athe> yaro: yeah i simply find it odd :) but thanks for the info
[06:53] <Darkmystere> nowshining: I have a kernal called ubuntu 7.10 kernal 22.14-rt and i cannot use that 1
[06:54] <orma> I still have a intel dual core desktop pc so
[06:54] <gyaresu> c1|freaky: Backup link: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/category/backup
[06:54] <markaa> webcam help please!!
[06:54] <astro76> !webcam | markaa
[06:54] <ubotu> markaa: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:54] <phenom> !anarchism
[06:54] <orma> so processing time could not be the problem
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anarchism - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <nowshining> orma how did u do that
[06:55] <markaa> astro76: I need more help than that
[06:55] <astro76> markaa: you should ask a more specific question in that case ;)
[06:55] <markaa> astro76: I have been ....
[06:55] <nowshining> Darkmystere, do u have all ubuntu 7.10 updates?
[06:56] <Darkmystere> yea...
[06:56] <markaa> astro76: I have a webcam here that should work in Ubuntu with the Gspca/Spca5xx, drivers... but its not..when I type in lsusb in the terminal I get this line: Bus 002 Device 009: ID 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.
[06:56] <Darkmystere> no more updates avalible unless i download somthing outdated
[06:56] <markaa> astro76: I have gspca loaded
[06:56] <astro76> markaa: stuff like this usually ubuntuforums.org is helpful, you could try there while you wait
[06:56] <nowshining> hmmm Darkmystere
[06:56] <orma> nowshining: sorry...no buffer increase but increasing priority
[06:56] <astro76> markaa: search for specific model numbers
[06:56] <nowshining> oh Oriona
[06:57] <markaa> astro76: I did
[06:57] <Darkmystere> sorry if i take a while to answer i keep accedentally going to near edge of windows and cube flips
[06:57] <markaa> astro76: I have been at this for a week +
[06:57] <nowshining> i think since we are both having the same problem - i'm on dialup and even an 16bit stream will cut out on me
[06:57] <nowshining> Darkmystere, lolz
[06:57] <shanks> nickrud, hey man, are you there?
[06:57] <Darkmystere> lol is there a way to fix that btw
[06:57] <orma> nowshining: true dat
[06:57] <nowshining> Darkmystere, not that i know of
[06:58] <markaa> astro76: I have found forums saying it works....
[06:58] <orma> nowshining: u having integrated sound?
[06:58] <markaa> astro76: but I understand if you can't help
[06:58] <Darkmystere> Well no i dont have sound =(
[06:59] <astro76> markaa: I can't, I haven't used webcams with linux, just trying to point you to resources
[06:59] <gometro33> i've got a quick question is someone would be willing to help for a second
[06:59] <markaa> astro76: thanks
[06:59] <Darkmystere> well can u help me get sound?
[06:59] <markaa> Has anyone here been successful with webcams in Linux?
[06:59] <shanks> no
[06:59] <shanks> no one
[06:59] <shanks> EVER
[06:59] <shanks> =/
[07:00] <gometro33> how do i identify which entry in /dev is my cd drive?
[07:00] <lgc> CarlFK, you still there?
[07:01] <fcmatt> i just reinstalled my box and cant remember the ntfs automount deal
[07:01] <gyaresu> gometro33: 'ls -l /dev/cdrom'
[07:01] <gyaresu> !ntfs-3g | fcmatt
[07:01] <ubotu> fcmatt: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:01] <gometro33> gyaresu: and for a dvd rw?
[07:02] <gyaresu> gometro33: 'ls -l /dev/dvd' You're just showing where the symlinks point to.
[07:02] <gyaresu> gometro33: or dvdrw whichever...
[07:03] <gometro33> gyaresu: ah ok, i get it, thanks a ton
[07:03] <gyaresu> gometro33: You're welcome.
[07:03] <lgc> Who here is the owner of 'dopey' and 'mother'?
[07:04] <revilodraw> ok i have big problems -  i was playing aroundf with getting the tv hooked up to the laptop and changed screen resolution. it would then not change back. then, i stopped using the proprietary graphics driver cos i thought that might have been the problem, intending to turn in back on later, and now i cant 'see' anything... how do i reinstall the fglrx proprietary driver from the cmd line?
[07:05] <Flynsarmy> When i try to connect to my Motorola V3x via bluetooth it says 'Not a valid location'. It finds the phone OK, just can't connect. Anyone have any ideas?
[07:06] <revilodraw> flynsarmy; r u using a bluetooth program?
[07:06] <Flynsarmy> No i'm using the bluetooth icon in the taskbar. Bluetooth Applet 0.14
[07:06] <Flynsarmy> revilodraw: Right click - browse device, it finds it and i click connect
[07:07] <revilodraw> flynsarmy; hmmm i dont know... someone here will though
[07:07] <Flynsarmy> My other problem is that after a while of idle time my wireless network doesn't work anymore
[07:08] <Evanlec> u need a phone browser app
[07:08] <Evanlec> i frget what its called, look in apt-get bluetooth
[07:08] <revilodraw> ok i have big problems -  i was playing aroundf with getting the tv hooked up to the laptop and changed screen resolution. it would then not change back. then, i stopped using the proprietary graphics driver cos i thought that might have been the problem, intending to turn in back on later, and now i cant 'see' anything... how do i reinstall the fglrx proprietary driver from the cmd line?
[07:08] <MacFlecknoe> did you uninstall it?
[07:08] <revilodraw> yes
[07:09] <MacFlecknoe> then apt-get it back
[07:09] <Evanlec> run x-reconfigure
[07:09] <Evanlec> and use generic ati driver
[07:09] <Evanlec> to boot X
[07:09] <revilodraw> ok from grub?
[07:09] <Evanlec> from cmd line
[07:09] <Detedagowa|WoW> is $0.2400 2.4 cents or 24 cents?? brainfart here
[07:09] <revilodraw> how do i get cmd line without login window?
[07:10] <Evanlec> Detedagowa|WoW: 24 cents
[07:10] <Detedagowa|WoW> sweet
[07:10] <Evanlec> revilodraw: boot in recovery mode
[07:10] <MacFlecknoe> there should be a tty attacked to your function keys
[07:10] <revilodraw> evanlec; tried it didnt work
[07:10] <MacFlecknoe> it boots right?
[07:10] <revilodraw> it boots but i just get the startup scripts then it hangs
[07:11] <MacFlecknoe> your video driver wont cause it to hang
[07:11] <Evanlec> yea but he's running GDM
[07:11] <Evanlec> so it will
[07:11] <revilodraw> if i can get into a livecd will i be able to reinstall the ati proprietary driver
[07:11] <MacFlecknoe> what is it hanging on?
[07:11] <Evanlec> he needs to boot into recovery console
[07:12] <bulmer> revilodraw, can you try ctrl+alt+f1 or f2 and log on from there?
[07:12] <revilodraw> evanlec; it hung in recovery mode too
[07:12] <Evanlec> well that doesnt make sense
[07:12] <revilodraw> bulmer; give me a sec
[07:13] <bulmer> if one uses the environment of the liveCD for chroot, is that safe enuff ? ie copying the filesystem.squashfs into the chrooted directory..
[07:13] <MacFlecknoe> thats a bit of overkill
[07:13] <Evanlec> safe enough for what?
[07:13] <revilodraw> wth is going on even the livecd is hanging
[07:13] <MacFlecknoe> and you have to be careful what you copy over
[07:13] <bulmer> safe enuff for the user not able to escape out of chrooted jail?
[07:14] <MacFlecknoe> proc and such need to be created differently
[07:14] <Evanlec> if the livecd is hanging then something def wrong
[07:14] <Evanlec> yea u need to mount proc and sys and some stuff
[07:14] <revilodraw> evanlec; tell me about it
[07:14] <^root^> Hi! i cant see urdu text correctly, i have even MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=0 in /etc/environment. Using firefox on gutsy. i always get a square with ABFD in it for almost everyth 3rd or 4th character
[07:14] <Evanlec> boot into windows?
[07:14] <Evanlec> ;p
[07:14] <bulmer> MacFlecknoe, what do you mean /proc created differently? can you elaborate?
[07:15] <Evanlec> ^root^: urdu text ?
[07:15] <MacFlecknoe> if you are proposing just copying over all the files on the cd onto your paritions it wont work
[07:15] <revilodraw> evanlec; i dont dual boot
[07:15] <Evanlec> bulmer: they need to be mounted with specific options
[07:15] <MacFlecknoe> to be fran k you arent very clear
[07:15] <^root^> Evanlec, yes, anything that uses the same writing like arabic, persian or whatever
[07:15] <Evanlec> ^root^: u mean unicode?
[07:16] <^root^> Evanlec, yup...
[07:16] <Evanlec> do u have the fonts installed?
[07:16] <Evanlec> have u set your locale ?
[07:16] <Evanlec> i.e. firefox options etc
[07:16] <bulmer> MacFlecknoe, am not clear because i have not done the chrooting of a full system like that..i figure the filesystem.squashfs is a full system on the liveCD it would be adequate for chroot
[07:16] <revilodraw> evanlec; its hanging on 'running local boot scripts' when i dont use the livecd...can i access a cmd line before then?
[07:17] <Evanlec> revilodraw: when does it hang if u select recovery console?
[07:17] <MacFlecknoe> can you cntrl c and kill the scripts?
[07:17] <revilodraw> evanlec; ill check
[07:17] <Evanlec> MacFlecknoe: doubt it
[07:17] <revilodraw> MacFlecknoe: no...
[07:18] <revilodraw> ok i pressed alt f2 and its asking me to login
[07:18] <bulmer> MacFlecknoe, btw i was specific filesystem.squashfs  file not the entire files of the cd
[07:18] <revilodraw> ok im in the cmd line
[07:18] <^root^> Evanlec, so any solution?
[07:18] <revilodraw> ok how do i xreconfigure?
[07:19] <Evanlec> ^root^: sorry im not sure
[07:19] <bulmer> revilodraw, see what is mounted
[07:19] <maarten_> A question: when I hibernate my laptop, Ubuntu starts to display a screensaver for a few seconds. Is this desired behaviour?
[07:19] <revilodraw> bulmer; how?
[07:19] <bulmer> revilodraw, mount
[07:19] <Evanlec> sudo apt-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[07:19] <Evanlec> or some such?
[07:19] <Evanlec> i forget the exact cmd
[07:20] <Evanlec> oh
[07:20] <bulmer> revilodraw, so anything mounted?
[07:20] <Evanlec> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:20] <Evanlec> thats it
[07:21] <Darkmystere> Can somke 1 help me get sound?
[07:21] <jinxed-> Is anyone fairly good with Nvidia video cards/resolution problems?
[07:21] <bulmer> probably nothing much, as he interrupted the boot script
[07:21] <bulmer> Darkmystere, can you not read lips fast enuff? lol
[07:22] <Darkmystere> lol Yea Bulmer =)
[07:22] <Darkmystere> Thats a No -.-
[07:22] <Darkmystere> lol
[07:22] <bulmer> Darkmystere, i dont know, i dont have sound in mine, fried wires already
[07:22] <Darkmystere> Can some 1 refer me to the scripting channel
[07:22] <bulmer> bash
[07:22] <Darkmystere> Lol i have a Kernal that i had Sound on
[07:22] <Jay-Oh-En> would sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop work in kubuntu to install ubuntu desktop and how would i uninstall kubuntu to make it pure ubuntu desktop and is there another program that acts like its internet explorer so i can do stuff on websites that requires internet explorer
[07:23] <Darkmystere> Err use Synaptics
[07:23] <Darkmystere> just uncheck kubuntu and check ubuntu
[07:23] <Jay-Oh-En> Darkmystere: what abpout my other problem
[07:23] <Jay-Oh-En> and i dont have synaptics i have adept
[07:23] <revilodraw> evanklec; ok i just used the xserver econfigure thingy and its restarting now
[07:23] <erpo> Jay-Oh-En: Your best bet for IE would be to run Windows in a virtual machine.
[07:23] <astro76> Jay-Oh-En: 1. yes, 2. not sure, 3. there are websites that still need IE?? ;)
[07:24] <astro76> Jay-Oh-En: unchecking kubuntu-desktop will *not* uninstall kubuntu
[07:24] <Jay-Oh-En> erpo: no it wouldnt konqueror acts as IE
[07:24] <Darkmystere> then yea Sudo Apt-get install Ubuntu Desktop should work and remove ubuntu like Sudo apt-get Remove (insert program here
[07:24] <Jay-Oh-En> astro76: well stuff on myspace and school websites
[07:24] <revilodraw> evanlec; hahahah the forced mount thing is happening now
[07:25] <Evanlec> hm?
[07:25] <Jay-Oh-En> astro76: i already asked the guy who maintains the server to add linux to the system requirements
[07:25] <revilodraw> evanlec; so ill have to wait to see if the x reconfigure has worked
[07:25] <Darkmystere> ubotu Script
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about script - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <Evanlec> revilodraw: what driver did u select?
[07:26] <revilodraw> evanlec; ati
[07:26] <Darkmystere> Can some 1 refer me to a Beginers guide to Scripting?
[07:26] <astro76> Jay-Oh-En: it's not even about linux, Firefox is cross platform and has 16% market share currently
[07:26] <jinxed-> Is anyone fairly good with Nvidia video cards/resolution problems?
[07:26] <Evanlec> Darkmystere: bash scripting?
[07:26] <Evanlec> !ask | jinxed-
[07:26] <ubotu> jinxed-: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:26] <Jay-Oh-En> astro76: but mozilla doesnt work for some website
[07:26] <astro76> Darkmystere: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[07:26] <Jay-Oh-En> s
[07:26] <revilodraw> evanlec; is that correct?
[07:26] <Evanlec> ya
[07:26] <Evanlec> np
[07:27] <Darkmystere> like the airoscript scripting
[07:27] <Jay-Oh-En> i want it to emulate IE
[07:27] <jinxed-> Evanlec, my problem is complicated.... its not worth flooding the channel and I know the type of background needed to answer the question
[07:27] <Evanlec> Darkmystere: ??
[07:27] <Evanlec> jinxed-: okay well ask me then, i might know, but i wont until u ask
[07:27] <Darkmystere> airoscript its a Faster way to use the aircrack suite
[07:27] <astro76> Jay-Oh-En: complain to those websites, the "emulation" of IE is just the reporting that it is IE when it's not, so it's really stupid for websites to check for IE when it's not necessary
[07:27] <Darkmystere> Its a script that almost automates Using aircrack
[07:27] <Evanlec> Darkmystere: aircrack i know nothing about, sry
[07:28] <tssom> can i auto update to kernel 2.6.23 when im using 2.6.24?
[07:28] <Evanlec> that would be a downgrade
[07:28] <bulmer> astro76, i dont know if IE supports dtd or schema for xml stuff, sometimes Firefox fails on those..
[07:28] <Darkmystere> I just want to make a Script to  be able to type a number to choose an option and it acctually does it
[07:28] <Evanlec> not an upgrade ;p;
[07:28] <J-_> how well does the Atheros AR5007EG wireless card work in gutsy?
[07:28] <Jay-Oh-En> astro76: but my school is stupid and requires IE for the website and im homeschooled so im constantly on the website
[07:29] <Takeda> giorno .. scusate come si installa iceweasol ?
[07:29] <Darkmystere> a script to tell Ubuntu to set time from internet ect
[07:29] <jinxed-> Evanlec, I need to get my resolution past 800x600 with a NVIDIA Geforce go 6600 16xpci express graphics card on my laptop
[07:29] <astro76> Jay-Oh-En: well, you could use konquerer in gnome
[07:29] <Evanlec> jinxed-: okay, that problem comes up here atleast 20-30 times everyday here
[07:29] <jinxed-> Evanlec, i am stuck in low graphics mode and my montior suports up to 1680x1050
[07:29] <Jay-Oh-En> astro76: but... it probally wouldnt work properly
[07:29] <Evanlec> !resolution | jinxed-
[07:29] <ubotu> jinxed-: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:29] <jinxed-> Evanlec, i know i was here for 8 hours yesterday :/
[07:30] <jinxed-> Evanlec, done that didn't work
[07:30] <Evanlec> k
[07:30] <astro76> Jay-Oh-En: it probably will work fine
[07:30] <Evanlec> jinxed-: u can pastebin ur xorg.conf if u want
[07:30] <J-_> how well does the Atheros AR5007EG wireless card work in gutsy?
[07:30] <J-_> !wireless
[07:30] <nickrud> jinxed-: still working at it huh.
[07:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:30] <Jay-Oh-En> astro76: i just cant get the flash to show up on the page its just a grey box
[07:30] <Evanlec> nickrud: whatup meng ;p
[07:30] <Evanlec> J-_: what kernel are u running?
[07:31] <bulmer> J-_, works okay I guess...i was using a liveCD and I was able to use the wireless features
[07:31] <jinxed-> nickrud, yep :)
[07:31] <nickrud> Evanlec: not a lot, was reading bookforum.com and slid across this desktop
[07:31] <jinxed-> Evanlec, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51062/
[07:31] <bulmer> that was 7.10
[07:31] <astro76> Jay-Oh-En: oh I thought you meant in gnome, dunno about konquerer specifically but you could ask in #kubuntu
[07:31] <Taa5i> When installing Ubuntu server 7.10 i recieve a message saying dependency problems for mailx, exim4 is not installed.  How do I make it install that pelase?
[07:31] <Evanlec> jinxed-: okay did u try any other modes? add a few more to your modes line
[07:32] <max_> hey, I've got a bug to report involving stickynotes and the the desktop wall plugin in metacity, can you guys tell where I should report?
[07:32] <Jay-Oh-En> ok
[07:32] <astro76> !bugs | max_
[07:32] <ubotu> max_: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[07:32] <jinxed-> Evanlec, you just want me to manually edit the conf to add more modes?
[07:32] <lou_> I'm having some trouble getting my audio working on linux can anyone help?
[07:32] <Evanlec> Taa5i: sudo apt-get install exim
[07:32] <Evanlec> jinxed-: yea...what else would u do?
[07:32] <Evanlec> !ask | lou_
[07:32] <ubotu> lou_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:33] <max_> should I first verify that other people can reproduce the problem?
[07:33] <revilodraw>  evalec: its still stuck on 'running  local boot scripts' but i t tried really hard to go past that, ie it flashed black a couple of times, but then it gave up
[07:33] <Evanlec> max_: yes u should
[07:33] <J-_> Evanlec: I just wanted a generalized answer =) my friend will be installing Ubuntu on his laptop which he has that card.  I just want to find ndiswrapper documentation for the card so he has a secure connection, unless it runs smoothly after installation, the laptop is a toshiba satellite a215-s4807.
[07:34] <lou_> i'm not getting any audio output on this nvidia MCP61 chipset
[07:34] <jinxed-> Evanlec, I have been told that if I am not sure 100% that my montior can handle the modes i add I could barbacue my screen and chip
[07:34] <Taa5i> Evanlec:  This is during the install process itself, tasksel fails on that step.
[07:34] <Evanlec> J-_: as far as i know, atheros chipset is support under kernel > 2.6.23
[07:34] <Tyczek> J-_, Im runnin ubuntu on satellite a210-16f
[07:34] <revilodraw> evanlec; how do i install the ati driver from  the cmd line?
[07:34] <Evanlec> jinxed-: thats unlikely
[07:34] <jinxed-> ok
[07:35] <jinxed-> well what modes should i add? Evanlec
[07:35] <bulmer> J-_, works okay I guess...i was using a liveCD and I was able to use the wireless features <-- you saw this?
[07:35] <J-_> Evanlec: Is that the current gutsy kernel?
[07:35] <xiambax> how can i find out what kind of videocard i have on my system so i can pick the right driver
[07:35] <xiambax> i messed something up and now i cant get anything bigger then 800 by 600
[07:35] <Evanlec> revilodraw: the generic ati driver is already there, u should be able to boot into X now
[07:35] <xiambax> Its a compaq evo
[07:35] <Evanlec> J-_: 7.10 kernel is 2.6.22 i believe
[07:36] <revilodraw> evanlec: how?
[07:36] <Evanlec> jinxed-: try adding modes like 1024x768 or such
[07:36] <zoexii> xiambax: lspci
[07:36] <max_> it's interesting, using compiz-fusion as the compositing manager, if you enable the the desktop wall feature with the 'edge flip move' option enabled, moving a window to the edge shifts the virtual desktop over and moves the mouse to the other side of the screen, along with the window you're dragging
[07:36] <Evanlec> revilodraw: once u ran the X configure, reboot
[07:36] <revilodraw> evanlec; i did
[07:36] <jinxed-> what do i put between the "1680x1050" "1024x768"
[07:36] <Evanlec> max_: thats a feature, not a bug
[07:37] <Evanlec> jinxed-: u dont have to put anything
[07:37] <xiambax> its intel
[07:37] <max_> but if you drag a stickynote to the edge of the screen like that, and onto the other virtual desktop, your mouse is still holding the window, but the window has dissappeared
[07:37] <max_> dropping it there makes it completely disappear from view
[07:37] <xiambax> brookdale-g
[07:37] <nickrud> max_: sounds like a stickynote bug
[07:37] <Evanlec> max_: k thats an issue with stickynotes, not compiz
[07:37] <xiambax> vga compatable
[07:38] <J-_> Evanlec: alright cool, you I assume you havent tried the 2.6.22 kernel on that wireless card. but yeah, thanks anyway. I will look on the forums for a howto or some such.
[07:38] <bulmer> Evanlec, do you know how ubuntu service i/o interrupts and not able to recover? i seem to experience system freeze if the wireless i/o interrupt gets whack
[07:38] <revilodraw> Evanlec: maybe i chose the wrong driver? should i try vesa?
[07:38] <Evanlec> revilodraw: yea try vesa then
[07:38] <xiambax> zoexil, any ideas?
[07:39] <max_> nick, evan, that is what I believed
[07:39] <Evanlec> otherwise its something besides your video config thats F**ed up
[07:39] <tssom> Is there a autoupdate kernel script for kernel <IP_ADDRESS> like it was for <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:39] <max_> does anyone verify the bug?
[07:39] <zoexii> hi, I am having trouble with some websites requiring java, I have sun java 1.6 installed, but when I go to a java test site it says I am using 1.4.2.  what is wrong?
[07:39] <Evanlec> J-_: i dont know because im not running ubuntu anymore
[07:39] <jinxed-> Evanlec, no luck
[07:40] <Evanlec> jinxed-: u have the nvidia drivers installed correctly yes?
[07:40] <bulmer> zoexii, type  java -version and it should tell you which version you have, also  update-alternative config java  would tell you too
[07:40] <Evanlec> and direct rendering enabled?
[07:40] <jinxed-> Evanlec, i think i do... and people who helped me thought i did but i won't say anything for 100% sure because i wouldn't know
[07:40] <J-_> Evanlec: okay, thanks for the help dude. appreciate it.
[07:41] <bulmer> zoexii, update-alternatives --config java rather
[07:41] <Evanlec> jinxed-: in restricted drivers control it says enabled ya?
[07:41] <Evanlec> J-_: np
[07:41] <sam__> m doing socket programming in which i want to connect to the rtsp server. so i am calling DESCRIBE method of rtsp for media initialisation. and then reading the response sent by the server..in that response its showing content length to be 8320 when i tried to print that data i received only 7850 not the complete 8320 data..connection at server side is getting terminated..Why is it so??
[07:41] <jinxed-> yeah
[07:41] <jinxed-> it does
[07:42] <jinxed-> Evanlec, yes it does
[07:42] <zoexii> bulmer, i run java -version and it says 1.6
[07:42] <zoexii> but when I load a test applet in firefox it returns 1.4.2
[07:42] <max_> I'll type up the bug report, I would like to see how the process works... not to mention hoping to recover my list of birthday present ideas for my girlfriend :D
[07:42] <Evanlec> jinxed-: try running 'sudo nvidia-settings' from a terminal
[07:42] <xiambax> fixed it, thanks guys
[07:42] <bulmer> sam_, just because you asked read 8320 bytes, it does not meant it has has 8320 bytes to deliver ..you have to test if its equal
[07:43] <jaguar6> Hi
[07:43] <Evanlec> max_: let me touch your girlfriend and i'll submit your bug report directly to the devs ;)
[07:43] <Evanlec> lol
[07:43] <bulmer> zoexii, update-alternatives --config java rather   <-- what this tells you?
[07:43] <Evanlec> J/K ;)
[07:43] <jinxed-> Evanlec, tried it it only brings up part of the menu and there are few errors i'll get the errors for you though
[07:43] <jinxed-> Evanlec, hold on
[07:43] <Evanlec> jinxed-: k
[07:43] <Atul> sam, HI
[07:43] <Atul> sam__, hi
[07:44] <jinxed-> Evanlec, a new error popped up that said You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:46] <malnilion> jinxed-, assuming you're running an nvidia card, running nvidia-xconfig will give you a default x configuration that will allow you once restarting X to run nvidia-settings
[07:46] <max_> in irc people will only mock you and grow tired of your annoying whining
[07:46] <astro76> !language | max_
[07:46] <ubotu> max_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:47] <stdin> !attitude | max_
[07:47] <ubotu> max_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:47] <zetheroo> anyone?
[07:47] <tssom> What is the fastest way to get the kernel <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:47] <max_> hehe, sorry :D
[07:47] <astro76> Darkmystere: yes an irc channel is not the proper first step in learning something
[07:47] <astro76> Darkmystere: but you want to learn bash
[07:47] <tssom> I mean, is there a way to get the whole thing on auto. like with the gutsy.py script
[07:47] <Onyx> Does anyone have the r48 package listed in this thread?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476924
[07:47] <tssom> hardy.py*
[07:47] <Taa5i> Any ideas how to fix the ubuntu install so it adds exim4 first and can finish the mailserver isntall things for mailx?
[07:48] <Evanlec> jinxed-: do u have onboard intel gfx card? if so disable that in bios
[07:48] <jinxed-> malnilion, i have been told"jinxed-, your pc is fubar if you have nvidia for your driver and are running X yet nvidia-settings says you have no nvidia driver. You must reinstall gutsy to get rid of whatever that hack did to you"
[07:48] <Darkmystere> Ok well thanks....
[07:48] <max_> Darkmystere, bash is certainly very useful in a linux setting, and fairly noob friendly
[07:48] <bulmer> Taa5i, what is the dependency of exim4? does it depend on mailx? just curious
[07:49] <Darkmystere> thanks
[07:49] <neeto> I am trying to install beryl and I ran the config script and it finished without errors. How do I start beryl?
[07:49] <sam__> sorry but i did not get you
[07:49] <Evanlec> jinxed-: yea soimething is wrong with ur nvidia install, i would say download the nvidia driver from nvidia.com and run it
[07:49] <xiambax> thats the worst peice of advice ever
[07:49] <Darkmystere> Is there a Place to download a Volume Of Bash?
[07:49] <jinxed-> Evanlec, i have no idea how to check if i have gfx card or how i would disable it
[07:49] <malnilion> jinxed-, did you try running nvidia-xconfig?
[07:49] <xiambax> you change nv to nvidia
[07:49] <Darkmystere> So i wont have to save every page >.>
[07:49] <Taa5i> bulmer: mailx which is part of the tasksel install process requires exim4 and mail-transport-agent, but these aren't isntall so the installer fails itelf.
[07:49] <max_> Darkmystere: are you in linux?
[07:49] <jinxed-> Evanlec, if I did that and my nvidia card isn't working then i won't have any screen that seems risky to me
[07:50] <sam__> bulmer sorry but i did not get you
[07:50] <jinxed-> malnilion, yeah
[07:50] <Darkmystere> Yea Ubuntu 7.10
[07:50] <Evanlec> jinxed-: u can always revert back to using nv driver
[07:50] <astro76> Darkmystere: didn't you catch the link I gave you before?
[07:50] <astro76> Darkmystere: pdf and more here http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/
[07:50] <malnilion> jinxed-, and it should have told you that it created a new xorg.conf and backed up your old one, right?
[07:50] <Evanlec> malnilion: his xorg.conf is configured correctly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51062/
[07:50] <bulmer> Taa5i, i guess you just have to install the pre requisite before hand
[07:50] <jinxed-> malnilion, yes
[07:51] <bazhang> http://www.ss64.com/bash/ also Darkmystere
[07:51] <max_> Darkmystere: you may not know it yet, but bash is your command line
[07:51] <bulmer> sam_, just because you asked read 8320 bytes, it does not meant it has has 8320 bytes to deliver ..you have to test if its equal <-- this?
[07:51] <Darkmystere> Thanks
[07:51] <Darkmystere> Well im trying a script cant seem to get some of the colors to match
[07:51] <sam__> ya
[07:51] <malnilion> Evanlec, and he's restarted the xserver?
[07:51] <Evanlec> bash stands for: Bourne Again Shell
[07:51] <bulmer> sam_,  respond with my nick or ill miss
[07:51] <Evanlec> malnilion: he's rebooted a few times yea
[07:51] <Darkmystere> How do i read pdf in ubuntu?
[07:51] <max_> so it's a ubiquitous scripting medium at your finger tips which makes it fun
[07:51] <astro76> Darkmystere: the evince reader is installed by default
[07:51] <sam__> bulmer yup
[07:52] <astro76> Darkmystere: Document Viewer in the menu, or just open from file manager ;)
[07:52] <zetheroo> anyone?
[07:52] <bulmer> sam_, just like what i said, the system does not guarantee delivering what you asked for
[07:52] <Evanlec> heh
[07:52] <neeto> I am trying to install beryl and I ran the config script and it finished without errors. How do I start beryl?
[07:52] <astro76> !beryl
[07:52] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[07:52] <Darkmystere> Oh ok thanks guys Hopefully ill come out with an awesome script =)
[07:52] <Evanlec> zetheroo: u should probably ask ur question before saying that
[07:52] <astro76> Darkmystere: have fun
[07:53] <Evanlec> Darkmystere: shell scripting is fun ;)
[07:53] <bulmer> sam_, if the packets were cut during transmission, read may only deliver a portion at a time
[07:53] <Darkmystere> Ill try lol ill make a #darkmystere channel u guys thats good with it join it
[07:53] <zetheroo> what app is good to use with an iPod Nano in Ubuntu?
[07:53] <Darkmystere> Incase i get lost =)
[07:53] <sam__> bulmer ok but after DESCRIBE i am calling SETUP method of rtsp but i am not getting any response for it
[07:53] <astro76> !ipod | zetheroo
[07:53] <ubotu> zetheroo: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[07:53] <bazhang> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod zetheroo
[07:53] <Evanlec> zetheroo: rhythmbox is okay, audacious i think is good too
[07:53] <Evanlec> amarok is good yea
[07:54] <Taa5i> bulmer:  I can't install the prerequireiste beforehand!  This is all part of the automatied system install process :/
[07:54] <bulmer> sam_, i dont know what is setup method rtsp,  i know basics of read
[07:54] <Evanlec> forget audacious nvm ;p
[07:54] <bazhang> zetheroo: also gtk instructions/links there
[07:54] <sam__> bulmer ok
[07:54] <debatem1> so, hey, anybody know of a good secure and simple way to allow users to remotely trigger a small number of functions from a chroot on a server?
[07:54] <sam__> bulmer but when read returns 0 means connection is diconnected??
[07:55] <zetheroo> Evanlec: how do you do it in Rythymbox?
[07:55] <bulmer> sam_ or no data coming from the other end
[07:55] <bazhang> zetheroo: check out the link I gave you
[07:55] <malnilion> jinxed-, I realize you might have already answered this, but do could you open up Synaptic and tell me whether you've installed nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new?
[07:56] <tssom> how can i roll back a kernel update? i just auto updated to <IP_ADDRESS>, but when i booted to <IP_ADDRESS> my display driver isnt working.
[07:56] <revilodraw> evanlec; now im getting worried... playing with xreconfigure and getting nowhere
[07:56] <bulmer> Taa5i, oh well, once you customize scripts and no way to circumbent it, you're pretty much SOL or wait for the config gurus to give you blessings
[07:56] <sam__> bulmer can you please tell me hw do i check it as i am very new to this network programming...
[07:56] <debatem1> anybody know of a good secure and simple way to allow users to remotely trigger a small number of functions from a chroot on a server?
[07:56] <marvxxx> any pidgin backports out there?
[07:56] <astro76> tssom: what do you mean auto updated to 2.6.24? gutsy only has 2.6.22
[07:57] <Taa5i> bulmer:  This is all with the 7.10 server install disc.. I would have thuoght it would actually work and stuff.. not trying to do anything fancy either.
[07:57] <tssom> there is this script that does it
[07:57] <bulmer> sam_ cant really give you the dept details, we will be off topic here..you can visit ##c for further assistance
[07:57] <jinxed-> malnilion, new one
[07:57] <tssom> hardy.py got it from the forum
[07:57] <zetheroo> Evanlec: Amarok is saying something about doing mount %d and eject %d
[07:57] <astro76> !hardy | tssom
[07:57] <ubotu> tssom: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[07:57] <debatem1> sam_: you are doing C network programming?
[07:57] <sam__> bulmer ok no pbs..
[07:57] <astro76> tssom: all though they probably won't want to help either ;)
[07:57] <bazhang> haha
[07:58] <sam__> debateml yup
[07:58] <malnilion> jinxed-, have you run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"?
[07:58] <debatem1> sam__ pm me
[07:58] <revilodraw> i have a dell inspiron 6400 with an ati graphics card... im getting no x... which driver should i use? ati or vesa? or vga or what?
[07:58] <zetheroo> Evanlec: any idea?
[07:58] <bulmer> Taa5i, I actually have not used the server install disk, so it fails in installing mail system?
[07:58] <astro76> tssom: you should still have it installed and be able to select it from grub, unless your script screwed that up
[07:58] <tssom> gah, you know what? i\m going to bed, to tired for this atm :S
[07:59] <jinxed-> malnilion, just did again
[07:59] <sam__> debatem1 sorry...
[07:59] <tssom> meh, i'll deal with it tomorrow
[07:59] <tssom> thanks anyways
[07:59] <Taa5i> bulmer:  it requires mailx to continue, but mailx has exim4 and mail-transport-agent as dependencies which apparently aren't installed..
[07:59] <andruu> where can I set the $PATH variable?
[07:59] <jinxed-> malnilion, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51066/
[07:59] <Taa5i> And instead of installing those dependencies it just fails the step
[07:59] <astro76> andruu: for a user you should append to your path in ~/.profile
[07:59] <bulmer> Taa5i, you just proly have to submit a bug report for those missing items..
[07:59] <debatem1> sam__ nm, pm's blocked, http://www.chatzy.com/844590722439
[08:00] <andruu> astro76: i tried setting export PATH=$PATH:/whatever i need here
[08:00] <bulmer> Taa5i, maybe you can complete the install like a post install completion?
[08:00] <marvxxx> i found it at getdeb.net
[08:00] <debatem1> sam__: ?
[08:00] <andruu> astro76: but it's still not working, in the .profile in the home dir
[08:00] <revilodraw> i have a dell inspiron 6400 with an ati graphics card... im getting no x... which driver should i use? ati or vesa? or vga or what?
[08:00] <sam__> debatem: yes i am using c network programming
[08:00] <Taa5i> bulmer: Well it fails the Select and Install Software step so I don't know if it would be useable if I just skipped that step.
[08:01] <debatem1> sam__: hop into that link i gave you
[08:01] <astro76> andruu: I don't think you should export it in that file, just set the variable
[08:01] <sam__> debatem1:ok let me
[08:01] <andruu> ok
[08:01] <malnilion> jinxed-, ah, that makes sense, because nvidia-xconfig changes the xorg configuration; I'm kind of at a loss for why your nvidia driver is not loading despite it being in the xorg.conf that you pastebinned earlier
[08:01] <astro76> andruu: the default file does this if ~/bin exists...  PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"
[08:01] <james_027> hi all, is enlightenment belongs to the same category as to gnome and kde?
[08:02] <bulmer> Taa5i, i have not used the server install, just give it a whirl and see, if not completed attempt to do some post install cleanup/completion
[08:02] <malnilion> jinxed-, for the record, the xorg.conf looks right to me
[08:02] <jinxed-> k
[08:02] <bazhang> james_027: not quite
[08:02] <debatem1> sam__: you cant get in?
[08:03] <andruu> astro76: so where in the file should I add it?
 awt is that actually i am know to this..so can you please tell me??
[08:03] <Taa5i> bulmer: No can do.  Grub isntall fails as well, still hangs on those uninstalled dependencies.
[08:03] <revilodraw> how do i restart x
[08:03] <malnilion> jinxed-, you don't have any other nvidia packages installed in Synaptic other than nvidia-glx-new do you?
[08:03] <debatem1> sam__: chat
[08:03] <bulmer> am looking at the filesystem.squashfs from the liveCD, and it does not have xorg.conf, I assume during run of liveCD it auto detect your system video and creates this file
[08:03] <zetheroo> Evanlec: how do you get the iPod to mount?
[08:03] <jinxed-> malnilion, no
[08:04] <zetheroo> How do you mount an iPod in Ubuntu?
[08:04] <astro76> andruu: anywhere should work (outside of any existing code blocks of course
[08:04] <bazhang> zetheroo: new nano?
[08:04] <malnilion> revilodraw, ctrl alt backspace, but be warned everything you're running gets killed and any unsaved info will be lost
[08:04] <bulmer> Taa5i, oh well, and the cd checks out okay? no failure when you check the medium?
[08:04] <zetheroo> bazhang: yes
[08:04] <sam__> debateml :ok
[08:04] <revilodraw> malnilion; from the cli
[08:04] <bazhang> zetheroo: read the link I gave you
[08:04] <james_027> bazhang: what does enlightenment offer? I heard quite a number about ubuntu +E17 recently
[08:04] <revilodraw> how do u restart x from the external cli?
[08:04] <jxxxt> revilodraw, if you are in a terminal   startx
[08:04] <Tyczek> zetheroo, My friend took ipod to me and ubuntu auto-mount it
[08:04] <Taa5i> bulmer: Didn't verify the cd itself, but the cd recognized itself and hasn't shown any problems so far so i'd figure it's ok.
[08:05] <Taa5i> I guess I'll burn Eft and see if that works..
[08:05] <bazhang> james_027: lighter weight and alternative themes and style
[08:05] <revilodraw> fatal server error ; no screens found
[08:05] <zetheroo> bazhang: I was trying gtkpod
[08:05] <bulmer> Taa5i, my experience burning ubuntu iso has been bleak, made lots of coasters..lest it is really low speed, dont know why
[08:06] <james_027> bazhang: is E17 a gtk or qt base?
[08:06] <bazhang> zetheroo: link describes how to do it
[08:06] <talon223> i've never had a prob burning ubuntu...and my burner is horrible...
[08:06] <bazhang> james_027: some gtk with gOS and geubuntu
[08:06] <MTecknology> I have SMTP working. I have /etc/default/saslauthd set up to authenticate using pam. When I try to log in over 'telnet localhost 25', I keep getting "535 5.7.0 Error: authentication failed: generic failure" I can't figure out what credentials it's looking for.
[08:06] <Taa5i> bulmer:  All right, I'll try rebooting and checking the disc itself.
[08:06] <bulmer> talon223, my burner says it does 16x, i cant even get 3kb to slow down to 1x
[08:06] <revilodraw> oh wondrous joy i have x back
[08:07] <revilodraw> jxxxt:  i love you have my babies
[08:07] <talon223> bulmer, wow.....so it wants to speed up on you? or what..
[08:08] <malnilion> jinxed-, have you checked to make sure that the linux-restricted-modules package version that you have installed matches the linux-image you have installed?
[08:08] <bulmer> talon223, i just close my eyes and hopes for the best when i burn with 3kb..sometimes i luck out, mostly not..you want some coasters?
[08:08] <jxxxt> revilodraw, :-)
[08:08] <riaal> anyone have a sugestion on what to include in my C prgram that I use to administrate my server? some feature?
[08:08] <jinxed-> malnilion, how do i do that
[08:09] <Taa5i> riaal:  Why are you using c for that?
[08:09] <bulmer> riaal, does it do windows?  :)
[08:09] <malnilion> jinxed-, just open Synaptic and make sure the 2.6.blah numbers are the same for your linux-image package and your linux-restricted-modules package
[08:09] <talon223> bulmer, oh, you meant k3b...yeah...i think that's the prog that speeds it up to the max. available speed...
[08:09] <riaal> Taa5i: practising C
[08:09] <andruu> astro76: i figured it out, for some reason my .profile isn't loading
[08:09] <talon223> it's actually messed up a few cd's for me.....if you're on gnome, try gnomebaker or something similar
[08:10] <andruu> astro76:if i do ". .profile" it works, but when i restart the console my settings are lost
[08:10] <bXi> hi
[08:10] <astro76> andruu: do you have a .bash_profile or .bash_login ?
[08:10] <bulmer> talon223, i tried to set gnomebaker burn speed and cant seem to do it from the gui..dont know the command line behind it
[08:10] <malnilion> jinxed-, for example, I have the "linux-restricted-modules" package installed along with the "linux-image-generic"
[08:10] <revilodraw> ubuntu is so beautiful when its not a black and white flashing cursor
[08:10] <talon223> lol @ revilodraw
[08:10] <andruu> astro76: no there is a .bashrc and .bash_logout
[08:10] <bXi> when i type a nonexisting command in my terminal it gives me a "apt-get package" to get this command thingie
[08:10] <riaal> Any sugestions anyone? Need some insparation? :)
[08:11] <bXi> can i trigger this manually?
[08:11] <astro76> andruu: then I don't know why it isn't being read
[08:11] <jxxxt> I agree with talon223 gnomebaker gives me much better results
[08:11] <bulmer> riaal, let it do system inventory
[08:11] <andruu> astro76:thanks, hmm maybe i can manually add a .bash_profile
[08:11] <astro76> andruu: you can also add to the path in /etc/environment
[08:11] <riaal> bulmer: sounds interesting, what do you mean?
[08:12] <malnilion> jinxed-, or if you tell me which linux image you are using, I can tell you which package you should have installed
[08:12] <bulmer> riaal, inventory hardware and software loaded/installed version etc
[08:12] <jinxed-> i am using linux 7.10