[18:31] <redwolf> sup
[18:31] <redwolf> tsimonq2, TIBERIO!! you there?
[21:03] <tsimonq2> redwolf: ALBERTO!
 YER!
[21:20] <tsimonq2> Whatchu want?
 a summary of what happened yesterday
 .__.
[21:21] <tsimonq2> Hmmmmmmmmm?
 something about kde or something. like about 224 messages
 .__.
[21:23] <tsimonq2> O__o
 dunno
 council? kde? mailing lists?
[21:26] <tsimonq2> I don't get it
 nevermind 😂
[21:31] <tsimonq2> That was in *my* channel...
 O___O
 I thought I read something about KDE. I'm nuts 😐
 @wxl23 @VikingRedwolf @julienlavergne https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2017-July/001045.html
[22:40] <tsimonq2> lynorian: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2017-July/001045.html
 I just want to make sure y'all see that
 thanks. we need to talk about the window manager issue. ob is not exactly maintained. and it's ugly af
 Ok
 So
 What do we use?
 dunno yet
 Fix it! .__.
 but I'm looking closely the project Lumina
 have a read: https://lumina-desktop.org/features/
 I don't recommend doing anything but ob or kwin since that's what devs are using
 Is lumina packaged?
 for bsd only, for now
 @wxl23, idk
 Yeah
 Yeah well f that
[22:45] <tsimonq2> !language @wxl23
 anyway they're using "old" wms now. the new wm is highly experimental. but it seems it's a clone of ob with wayland supprot
[22:45] <tsimonq2> !language | @wxl23
[22:45] <meetingology> ubot93: Error: "wxl23:" is not a valid command.
[22:45] <tsimonq2> XD
 we don't have many choices though
 It requires fluxbox
 for now, yes
 I wanted flux for Lubuntu in the beggining
 team voted for ob
 flux is simpler in config files and it support more advanced themes, but...
 democracy sucks :P
 @VikingRedwolf Now's your time to speak up :P
 I'm willing to give it a shot
 now I don't want to!
 Why? .__.
 it'll be complicated to change
 the session manager is "adapted" to work with ob
 Fwd from wxl: <wxl> yeah well it not being packages and being primarily targeted for bsd, that's probably an issue
 Fwd from wxl: <wxl> i always thought fluxbox was gtk
[22:48] <wxl> yes that thank you
 O.o fluxbox is just fluxbox. no gtk or qt
[22:49] <wxl> no no
[22:49] <wxl> it's one or the other
 Wayland? .__.
 @tsimonq2, I want The Hurd kernel for Lubuntu! ·_____·
[22:49] <wxl> omg
[22:49] <wxl> kick him please
 loll
 read diz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox#GTK_themes
 openbox does NOT use any gtk library
 themes are in a standalone folder
 and it works on many Qt based distros
 $ apt-cache show openbox
[22:52] <tsimonq2> Uh oh, did I break it? :P
[22:52] <wxl> um
[22:52] <Unit193> You really should know better...
[22:52] <wxl> then wtf is ob-qt?
[22:53] <tsimonq2> It's frontend
[22:53] <tsimonq2> Ob*conf*-Qt
 Fixed it :P
 Fwd from VikingRedwolf: That's our build
 Funny that kde session breaks menu 😂
 @tsimonq2, I mean Ubuntu's
[22:54] <wxl> of course we have a history of using ob
[22:54] <wxl> so who amongst the people fixing bugs and providing code want to make the switch?
 But many I'm afraid.
 Flux is old now too
[23:24] <tsimonq2> bug 1394360