[09:43]  * duflu wonders if the Atom will finish building Mir today
[10:05] <duflu> Awesome. Mir on an old Intel Atom is super-responsive, compositing at 60FPS. If only it wasn't also suffering a bug; https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1275398
[10:09] <alan_g> fast, works - chose any one. :(
[10:10] <duflu> alan_g: Well, moving sofrware surfaces around is faster and smoother than anything I've ever seen on a old netbook. It's kind of exciting
[10:10] <duflu> software too
[10:11] <alan_g> Any clue about the GL clients failing?
[10:13] <duflu> alan_g: Possibly missing GL extenions (the ones used to load GL images into textures)
[10:13] <duflu> Ah. And Mir is just as fast as LXDE, without the ugly tearing of LXDE :)
[10:13] <alan_g> So failing to check result codes is the first thing
[10:15] <duflu> alan_g: Yep
[10:15] <duflu> But another day
[10:16] <alan_g> Sure. Nice it works so well otherwise
[10:43] <alan_g> slangasek: you were raising a protobuf issue yesterday?
[10:45] <duflu> alan_g: He logged it as https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1275372
[12:15] <anpok> i have one of those - currently only runnig lxde because all other environments are two slow
[13:49] <rsalveti> alf_: hey, remember we discussed a way to dynamically load a mir backend instead of making that decision in build-time? this was part of the emulator discussion https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-ubuntu-touch-for-x86
[13:49] <rsalveti> basically we now need mir to work with the android backend on x86 as well
[14:58] <dandrader> alan_g|lunch, so to add my own messages on top of the regular ones in the mir socket I've to extend ProtobufSessionCreator and ProtobufMessageProcessor?
[15:23] <slangasek> alan_g: hi there - yes, I've inadvertently started a Mir-affecting protobuf transition in trusty; and mir doesn't pass its test suite with the new one (bug #1275372). Is this something you could help with fixing, so we can go forward instead of backwards with the protobuf transition?
[15:24] <slangasek> alan_g: (if not, then the right thing to do is to back out the protobuf transition so it doesn't block mir landings)
[15:25] <alan_g> slangasek: yes. I'll help. Been wondering what the easiest way to grab the protobuf update to test without breaking other work (the error just looks unrelated)
[15:26] <slangasek> alan_g: well, you can grab the new protobuf from trusty-proposed; as for it looking unrelated, I did a test build with protobuf as the only difference, and it passed with the old one and fails with the new
[15:27] <alan_g> slangasek: I believe you. (Just makes it hard to guess what's wrong)
[15:31] <racarr> Morning
[15:32] <kgunn> racarr: your alarm clock is still broken :)
[15:33] <racarr> wait no now it's 7:33 right
[15:33] <racarr> yes
[15:35] <kgunn> alan_g: just sitting here thinking about your discussion with slangasek...
[15:36] <kgunn> alan_g: so since we're already in a build pickle with platform-api blocking us...
[15:37] <kgunn> alan_g: ok...nvmd...i thot it thru, we just have to merge that back into dev
[15:37] <kgunn> actually the whole trunk back into dev
[15:37] <kgunn> not as bad as i originally thot
[15:40] <alan_g> kgunn: Just think of "dev" as the trunk and "trunk" as a release branch and it feels more normal
[16:59] <alan_g> slangasek: How are you running the tests? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mir/+bug/1275372/comments/1
[17:00] <slangasek> alan_g: as part of the package build
[17:00] <slangasek> alan_g: reproducible with a native build on x86
[17:05] <alan_g> slangasek: I've tried on x86 - still CNR - we are doing something differently
[17:05] <slangasek> alan_g: output of "dpkg -l '*protobuf*' | grep ^ii" in your build environment?
[17:06] <slangasek> alan_g: you aren't passing 'DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck' in your environment (because of cross-builds), are you?
[17:06] <alan_g> $ dpkg -l '*protobuf*' | grep ^ii
[17:06] <alan_g> ii  libmirprotobuf-dev:i386                               0.1.3+14.04.20140108-0ubuntu1          i386         Display server for Ubuntu - protocol definition
[17:06] <alan_g> ii  libmirprotobuf0:i386                                  0.1.3+14.04.20140108-0ubuntu1          i386         Display server for Ubuntu - protocol implementation
[17:06] <alan_g> ii  libprotobuf-dev:i386                                  2.5.0-5ubuntu1                         i386         protocol buffers C++ library (development files)
[17:06] <alan_g> ii  libprotobuf-lite8:i386                                2.5.0-5ubuntu1                         i386         protocol buffers C++ library (lite version)
[17:06] <alan_g> ii  libprotobuf7:i386                                     2.4.1-3ubuntu4                         i386         protocol buffers C++ library
[17:06] <alan_g> ii  libprotobuf8:i386                                     2.5.0-5ubuntu1                         i386         protocol buffers C++ library
[17:06] <alan_g> ii  protobuf-compiler                                     2.5.0-5ubuntu1                         i386         compiler for protocol buffer definition files
[17:07] <alan_g> ii  python-protobuf                                       2.5.0-5ubuntu1                         all          Python bindings for protocol buffers
[17:07] <alan_g> slangasek: I'm just doing "make -j4 && ctest"
[17:07] <slangasek> alan_g: please use debian/rules build
[17:07] <alan_g> slangasek: ok
[17:07] <slangasek> alan_g: correction: 'fakeroot debian/rules binary'
[17:11] <alan_g> slangasek: running (but that takes a while to run)
[17:11] <slangasek> alan_g: yep, understood
[17:12] <slangasek> alan_g: fwiw, the relevant test call in debian/rules is this: GTEST_OUTPUT=xml:./ dh_auto_test --max-parallel=1
[17:12] <slangasek> (once the package build has run through once, you should be able to call that directly to iterate)
[17:32] <slangasek> alan_g: any luck?
[17:33] <alan_g> buiid at 97%
[17:33] <slangasek> ok
[17:33]  * slangasek sits on his hands ;)
[17:37] <alan_g> slangasek: it finished successfully. But I don't see any test run in backscroll
[17:39] <alan_g> The unit test binary passes (with LD_PRELOAD)
[17:40] <alan_g> And so does "GTEST_OUTPUT=xml:./ dh_auto_test --max-parallel=1"
[17:41] <slangasek> alan_g: ok, so 'GTEST_OUTPUT=xml:./ dh_auto_test --max-parallel=1' passes without any LD_PRELOAD?
[17:42] <slangasek> alan_g: I noticed that you were on i386... I was testing on amd64.  Could be that has an effect here
[17:42] <slangasek> let me try to reproduce on i386; can you try to reproduce on amd64?
[17:43] <alan_g> slangasek: I can try - but EOD for me is 18min away
[17:43] <slangasek> mmk
[17:47]  * alan_g still thinks this would be a very strange effect of protobuf changes
[18:04] <alan_g> slangasek: left it building - will check back when I get a minute (after supper)
[18:33] <alan_g|EOD> slangasek: works on amd64
[18:33] <slangasek> curious
[18:34] <slangasek> my i386 build is still running, let's see what happens
[19:44] <racarr> Is freenode acting weird?
[19:44] <racarr> No
[19:45] <ogra_> racarr, it was for most of the day
[19:45] <ogra_> they had a DDOS
[21:18] <popey> hello mir people.
[21:20] <popey> how far away is screencasting mir?
[21:30] <anpok> currently being worked on, i.e. there is a mp https://code.launchpad.net/~afrantzis/mir/mir-screencast-server-frontend/+merge/203809 in progress, another one for the client api has been merged alreadn, then there will probably be one or two more for platform support
[21:31] <anpok> correct details when alf_ is back online :)
[21:44] <slangasek> what the what
[21:44] <slangasek> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mir/0.1.3+14.04.20140108-0ubuntu2
[21:44] <slangasek> why is cmake now broken?
[21:45] <slangasek> hmm
[21:45] <slangasek> because I uploaded from a dirty tree, sigh
[21:45] <anpok> popey: I am the wrong one to ask
[21:46] <popey> k
[21:47] <anpok> maybe someone on -unity knows whether thats planned or in progress..
[23:37] <Guest438> popey: it will be a raw vid stream of what's happening on screen, no plan to show where you touched or swiped


[01:52] <mhall119> itnet7_: double ping
[01:52] <mhall119> RoAkSoAx: this is going to be your first UDS as an employee, right?
[02:04]  * crashsystems <3 Linode
[03:08] <ShawnR> for creating a raid via mdadm, by uuid, do i just put the uuid where i'd normally put /dev/sda1 or do i need to tell it somehow that i'm using a uuid?
[03:23] <RoAkSoAx> mhall119 yep
[03:25] <RoAkSoAx> mhall119 any concerns?
[03:32] <mhall119> RoAkSoAx: nope, just wondering if you used their travel provider last time
[03:54] <RoAkSoAx> mhall119 yeah all uds' ive been and sprint i went i used it
[03:54] <RoAkSoAx> they are good
[03:55] <RoAkSoAx> if u planning to use AA let me know and maybe we can go together i also told itnet7 if he gets sponsored
[13:06] <mhall119> RoAkSoAx: cool, that's kind of what I was hoping
[14:00] <reya276> Morning Everyone
[14:01] <chaynie> reya276: Morning
[14:30] <maxolasersquad> Anyone know of a cool open source java program.  A coworker wants to contribute to one.
[14:34] <maxolasersquad> I'm thinking Android apps are probably the best way for Java developers to contribute to open source.
[14:51] <reya276> iostat is pretty cool
[15:20] <tiemonster> java != cool
[15:23] <maxolasersquad> tiemonster: I know, it is just what he is vested in.
[15:23] <tiemonster> sad soul
[15:24] <tiemonster> there's Jenkins
[15:28] <reya276> Java = Cool!
[15:29] <maxolasersquad> He's a career-oriented programmer.  Java is a good language if you want to be marketable.
[15:29] <reya276> .NET, C# !=Cool!
[15:29] <maxolasersquad> I actually don't dislike java, just java applications.
[15:29] <maxolasersquad> ;)
[15:29] <reya276> Anything that stifles innovation towards open standards and FREE community is not cool
[15:33] <maxolasersquad> reya276: Anything that runs slowly and consumes an inordinate amount of resources is not cool.
[15:34] <reya276> no man Java has made strides when it comes to that when was the last time you've used it
[15:36] <tiemonster> 20 seconds ago
[15:37] <reya276> the Hardware and tech today is more than capable of running any Java application smoothly and fast if you know what your doing. The thing is Java when it was designed and conceived was way ahead of the Hardware hence why it was slow. Also there were tons of adjustments which needed to be made which have made it to what it is today
[15:37] <tiemonster> it sucked up RAM like nobody's business
[15:38] <reya276> dude what ever it is your doing, something must be wrong with it
[15:38] <tiemonster> java promotes over-verbosity and over-engineering
[15:38] <tiemonster> it's Tomcat. there's a lot wrong with it.
[15:38] <tiemonster> 100s startup time is not acceptable
[15:38] <tiemonster> there's not another application server on the planet that takes that long
[15:39] <tiemonster> well, at least that I've used
[15:39] <reya276> yeah I don't use Tomcat, Apache works great for what we need
[15:39] <tiemonster> for java?
[15:39] <reya276> we use CF which is Java Base 100%
[15:40] <reya276> and JSP which is also Java Base 100%
[15:40] <reya276> al CF/JSP is a bunch of tags and functions based on Java
[15:40] <reya276> *all
[15:41] <reya276> it could also be a configuration issue with the server have you guys looked in to that
[15:43] <reya276> the CF server can process JSP tags/Languge/Pages you know that, so if you are using JSP you could use CF/Apache to output your JSP pages
[15:44] <reya276> it takes a bit of configuration but it can be done
[15:50] <maxolasersquad> reya276: The idea that I'm using these Java applications wrong is silly.  I'm not argueing the details.  It just remains that when an application is written in Java it has a tendancy to use more resources and run slower than their counterparts written in other languages.  Java also integrates with its host OS very poorly.
[15:52] <reya276> huh, I never stated that you were using it wrong I stated that maybe there could be a misconfiguration with the server, never said anything about you using it wrong or anyone. I simply gave you an alternative to using Tomcat if you are using JSP pages.
[15:54] <reya276> Well in our case it does not appear to be so. I'm sorry that you guys are having those kind of issues
[17:10] <maxolasersquad> reya276: I'm referring to thick client apps.
[17:10] <reya276> you mean thin client
[17:10] <maxolasersquad> The Java application I use most is SQL Developer.
[17:11] <reya276> again like I said it depends what it is your doing
[17:11] <maxolasersquad> Technically, it works in a client/server relationship, but its not the server end that I have a problem with.
[17:11] <maxolasersquad> I'm using the application as intended.  Connecting dbs, modifying and viewing db objects.
[17:12] <reya276> but you were complaining about Tomcat, oh wait that was Tiemonster right
[17:12] <maxolasersquad> But its not just SQL Developer, it is most every Java application I have ever used.
[17:12] <maxolasersquad> reya276: Correct.
[17:12] <reya276> oh what DB are you using
[17:12] <maxolasersquad> Calibre does seem to be an exception to the rule.
[17:12] <maxolasersquad> Oracle
[17:12] <reya276> oh I c
[17:13] <reya276> see I'm using MYSQL so the MYSQL workbench/Designer works extremely fast and great. Now I'm not sure if that is Java based or not
[17:14] <reya276> see I'm think when he made a reference to tomcat that it was about Java apps that were web based
[17:15] <reya276> Desktop that is not my realm as I have Zero clue
[17:15] <reya276> Not affraid to admit it
[17:15] <maxolasersquad> I'm just speaking from a very general user-based perspective.  In general the Java desktop apps I've used have been memory intensive and slow.
[17:24] <mhall119> maxolasersquad: that's mostly because java apps don't use the same system libs all your other apps do, they have to load their own
[17:25] <mhall119> there have been java-based desktop systems where all the JVM stuff stayed resident in memory, and running a new java app didn't require much extra memory
[17:26] <mhall119> but when you run a java app in it's own JVM, you're essentually running a virtualized guest OS for that one app
[17:26] <mhall119> albeit a very light-weight guest OS
[17:32] <maxolasersquad> Does anyone else see Python errors when I am replied to?
[17:33] <maxolasersquad> mhall119: If one java app is running with IcedTea, then do all other apps running with IcedTea share the JVM?
[17:36] <mhall119> maxolasersquad: no, though they will probably share the memory space used by the jvm files
[17:36] <chaynie> maxolasersquad: Didn't see the post, resend please?
[17:36] <mhall119> but each will have it's own internal memory space which will be different
[17:36] <chaynie> maxolasersquad: err, what?
[17:42] <itnet7_> mhall119: Hey there!
[17:42] <mhall119> hey itnet7_
[17:46] <itnet7_> I finally got sort of caught up with the Log, Between Birthdays and Working off-site.
[18:02] <maxolasersquad> Could someone do me a favor and respond back with my name?
[18:03] <MichelleQ> maxolasersquad: howdy
[18:04] <maxolasersquad> MichelleQ: Woot, works.  Thanks.
[18:04] <MichelleQ> No problme!
[18:04] <maxolasersquad> An extension I have installed was causing Python errors each time someone responded to me.
[18:04] <MichelleQ> I've apparently developed an accent when I type.
[18:12] <reya276> maxolasersquad, I you see What I have done because I have experience slow application when using OpenJDK is that instead I use the Sun JRE plugin and JVM and then the apps tend to perform normally. so maybe that could be the case
[18:13] <maxolasersquad> reya276: I just recently switched to OpenJDK.  The two share 95%+ of the codebase.
[18:16] <reya276> but for some reason somethings on the web don't seem to recognize OpenJDK or its JRE like they do Sun's
[18:17] <reya276> my daughter uses this app called reading plus and it only started working until she switched it to the Sun JRE
[18:18] <reya276> so it is weird but most web based thing and even desktop apps only seem to work well when its Sun's JVM or JRE which like you said is crazy but its what I have experienced
[18:20] <maxolasersquad> reya276: There are some libraries that Sun could not open source because of IP owned by others.  IcedTea is simply those bits rewritten under an open license.  The way I understand it, if there is an issue, then it is in those bits.
[18:20] <maxolasersquad> mhall119 probably knows more about it than me.
[18:21] <maxolasersquad> Oh, and the Sun java compiler is proprietary, so IcedTea include an open source compiler.
[18:26] <mhall119> maxolasersquad: when Sun created OpenJDK, it was to be the codebase for Java 7
[18:26] <mhall119> IcedTea is, iirc, a backport of that code to be Java 6 compatible
[18:27] <mhall119> some bits of openjdk were re-written by Sun to get around IP problems, other bits were ported from GNU Classpath for IcedTea
[18:27] <mhall119> it got kind of messy
[18:28] <mhall119> also the Sun JRE shipped with a bunch of com.sun.* packages that I don't think are in OpenJDK/IcedTea
[18:29] <maxolasersquad> mhall119: Isn't OpenJDK ran against the same unit tests as the Sun proprietary java?
[18:30] <mhall119> maxolasersquad: I'm not sure, I don't know of it ever passed java certification to be honest
[18:31] <maxolasersquad> I thought that someone said it was certified with Sun to be 100% compatible.
[18:32] <maxolasersquad> Which is why Canonical felt confident with dropping it from 10.10.
[18:34] <mhall119> I think Canonical dropped it from Ubuntu because Debian dropped it


[12:25] <luca> good day everyone
[12:25] <luca> I need to keep the nvidia module loaded when going into suspend, does anyone know how to add it to the blacklist?
[12:27] <crimsun> add it to MODULES_WHITELIST="" in /etc/default/acpi-support
[12:27] <mhb> damn, too fast
[12:28] <mhb> :o)
[12:28] <crimsun> strike like a ninja.
[12:29] <mhb> luca: also, this question belongs to a #kubuntu or #ubuntu support channels, not here
[12:31] <luca> mhb: sorry
[12:31] <luca> crimsun: already done that, still the system wants to unload it
[12:31] <luca> thanks anyway, bye :)
[01:19] <marseillai> how can i decrypt a file using kgpg ?
[01:19] <marseillai> if i drag it in kgpg it only ask me if i want to add it as a key
[01:25] <Riddell> that's a user question (plus, I've no idea :)
[01:25] <marseillai> yes but no one have any idea ....
[01:25] <marseillai> so i tried here too
[01:25] <marseillai> i'm not able to decrypt my revu pwd
[01:25] <marseillai> :(
[01:27] <Riddell> use gpg on the command line
[01:29] <ryanakca> marseillai: in konqueror, right click it
[01:30] <marseillai> succeed after exactly four hours! :D
[01:30] <ryanakca> if it's a plaintext, right click the kgpg icon in systray, KGPG Editor, File, Open
[01:30] <marseillai> gpg is really not something userfrienddly
[01:31] <ryanakca> well, kindof
[01:31] <ryanakca> nah
[01:31] <ryanakca> you're right. It's a pain to use
[01:31] <marseillai> ryanakca: i've had too add right click service menu and set my gpg key as default
[01:31] <marseillai> yes
[01:31] <marseillai> revu should use LP login and password ...
[01:32] <ryanakca> really? It worked ootb for me
[01:32] <marseillai> really not for me
[01:33] <marseillai> 2 hours on gpg in command line and two hours with kgpg
[01:33] <ryanakca> hmm... feisty
[01:33] <ryanakca> s//?
[01:33] <marseillai> yes
[01:33] <ryanakca> gpg -d filename
[01:34] <marseillai> i had this error : gpg: decrypt_message failed: eof
[01:34] <ryanakca> odd
[01:34] <ryanakca> is this the password for revu
[01:34] <ryanakca> s//?
[01:34] <marseillai> yes
[01:34] <ryanakca> odd
[01:34] <marseillai> now i succeeded
[01:34] <marseillai> but
[01:35] <ryanakca> we're offtopic... see you in #kubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu ?
[01:35] <marseillai> i want to say that i understand that some people don't have four hour to loose to only get a password to start to contribute .....
[01:35] <marseillai> ryanakca: i'll go to sleep by now ....
[01:35] <ryanakca> kk, night night
[01:35] <marseillai> i'm really tired :)
[01:36] <ryanakca> and you don't need your revu pass to upload. just to comment on packages
[03:17] <ryanakca> does `notify-send 'Hello world!'` work for anybody else (package: libnotify-send )... nothing happens here... wondering if it's a bug of libnotify + KDE
[05:59] <manchicken> Do we have a /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/gutsy yet?
[06:02] <manchicken> It looks like it's specifying some versions of packages in the feisty version...
[06:02] <manchicken> Ooh, but the edgy and feisty versions are the same.
[06:05] <Hobbsee> manchicken: what for?  a chroot?
[06:05] <manchicken> yeah
[06:06] <Hobbsee> in the case of pbuilder, you can just change the repos of the feisty one, (copyin git first, to taste), and use --override-config
[06:06] <manchicken> But the word "feisty" doesn't appear anywhere in any of the debootstrap scripts...
[06:07] <manchicken> Or "edgy"
[06:07] <Hobbsee> i would assume you could use it anywhere then
[06:08] <Hobbsee> does itmention lenny or whatever either?
[06:08] <manchicken> It looks like dapper and older are different scripts.
[06:08] <manchicken> diffing the edgy and feisty scripts yields no differences.
[06:08] <manchicken> I'm just gonna try copying the feisty ones over and see if that makes a difference.
[06:09] <manchicken> Booya
[06:09] <manchicken> Looks like it's working.
[06:09] <manchicken> I figured it made sense to have gutsy in chroot ready to work on by time we're all in Spain.
[06:11] <manchicken> Okay, that's running now.  I'm gonna go play video games while that runs.
[06:11] <manchicken> Later. :)
[06:16] <Hobbsee> true
[10:32] <Hobbsee>  Bug #64695
[10:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 64695 in kdebase "If GDM is the default display manager KDE logout dialog is missing shutdown and restart options" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/64695
[10:33] <Hobbsee> [18:33]  [Notice]  -SeenServ- I last saw _StefanS_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>11h 37m 7s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[12:21] <marseillai> hi! i would like to knom who to poke to revu a kde package?
[12:21] <Hobbsee> marseillai: which one?
[12:22] <marseillai> mplayerthumbs
[12:22] <Hobbsee> marseillai: (someone in here, is the usual answer, or on -motu)
[12:22] <marseillai> it does the same that libarts1-xine but quickly
[12:23] <marseillai> Hobbsee: I think it would be faster if i ask to someone involve in kubuntu ... ;)
[12:23] <Hobbsee> true
[12:23] <Hobbsee> so i'm not reviewing
[12:23] <marseillai> it's for this reason i ask here
[12:24] <marseillai> here is my package : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4948
[12:27] <Hobbsee> okay.  may look later...
[12:27] <Hobbsee> may not, though
[12:28] <marseillai> oki
[12:28] <marseillai> Hobbsee: could you tell me to who else i could ask ?
[12:28] <Hobbsee> people in here - but it is a sunday
[12:28] <Hobbsee> or people in -motu
[01:19] <Tm_T> oh oh!
[01:20] <Tm_T> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6726522426109060914
[01:22] <Riddell> what is it?
[01:25] <larsivi> Anatomy of a Debian package
[01:56] <sageLi_> hi
[01:56] <sageLi_> I installed kubuntu 7.04 at sony vaio sz2. Connected to the internet, updated system reloads laptop, entered my login and password, a black screen (1s) and ... Again, "please enter login and password "
[01:56] <sageLi_> how fix it?
[02:22] <atidem> hello folks
[02:22] <atidem> [14:20]  <atidem> anyone knows if is there a workaround for this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/72806 (asked in #kubuntu channel too)
[02:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 72806 in adept "'adept_notifier' is not aware of packages in "held" state" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[02:26] <Hobbsee> manchicken: ^
[02:26] <Hobbsee> atidem: doubt it, apart from using apt, not adept
[02:31] <Hobbsee> that kwin composite for kde4 is seriously cool...
[02:59] <marseillai> Hobbsee: you try it or you just look video ?
[03:01] <Hobbsee> marseillai: at the videos
[03:01] <marseillai> oki
[03:01] <marseillai> yep there are cool
[03:01] <Hobbsee> dont see why you'd use beryl - looks like it's got all of beryl's functionality, and more, already there
[03:01] <marseillai> the stuff with expos and search as you type is cool
[03:01] <Hobbsee> yep
[03:01] <Hobbsee> very
[03:02] <marseillai> it's the bigest problem with beryl
[03:05] <Hobbsee> no idea.  :)
[03:05] <Tm_T> er
[03:05] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: well what was that?
[03:07] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: didnt you see the message?
[03:07] <Tm_T> yes
[03:07] <Hobbsee> :P
[03:07] <Tm_T> but it says nothing to me
[03:07] <Hobbsee> i missed part of it
[03:08] <Tm_T> well I noticed it already
[03:08] <Hobbsee> was meant to have an extra tm_t in there.
[03:08] <Tm_T> I see
[03:09] <Tm_T> funniest part of whole thing was your failure then ;)
[03:09] <Hobbsee> seems so :(
[03:11] <Tm_T> Jucato: no that's not fun
[03:12] <Jucato> :)
[03:20] <marseillai> i've make two kde package for gutsy! does someone could take a look at them : ftpmonitor a kicker applet to monitor ftp connection with any ftp daemon http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4952 and mplayerthumbs a thumbnailer for konqueror faster than arts1-xine http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4949
[03:52] <manchicken> Man, my feisty chroot is sucking up 19GB.
[03:53] <manchicken> I'm hesitant to delete it just yet.
[04:37] <manchicken> Well, forcing KDE to never let go of the sound device seems to be a good workaround for this sound device locking up.
[04:45] <nixternal> don't you ever clean your chroot?
[04:46] <ryanakca> nixternal: I got libnotify to work. I had to install ubuntu-desktop... still one small problem... well, feature I want to add
[04:46] <nixternal> hrmm
[04:46] <nixternal> I just installed libnotify, that is weird
[04:48] <ryanakca> You know how it has the channel as title, and then 'Nick > message' ? Well, fnotify has '#chan  <nick> message'. I'm wondering how to make <nick> appear instead of nick> ... (I've added '<', but it makes one like I want, and one original
[04:49] <ryanakca> also, I'm thinking of runing sed on the message/nick part, and making the nick bold ( nick )... any ideas on what the sed regex would look like?
[04:49] <manchicken> nixternal: Naw, my chroots are my sandboxes.
[04:49] <manchicken> Is it just me, or is the localization broken in gutsy repos?
[04:52] <ryanakca> nixternal: nevermind, I got the '<nick>' part working... just need make it bold now.
[04:52] <nixternal> oh
[04:52] <nixternal> good luck
[04:53] <nixternal> I can't get the nick bold
[04:53] <nixternal> you can only send the libnotify 2 paramaters
[04:53] <ryanakca> yep
[04:53] <nixternal> Header & Body
[04:53] <ryanakca> ah
[04:53] <ryanakca> hmm...
[04:53] <nixternal> or Title & Statement
[04:53] <ryanakca> it accepts xml tags... so. maybe split it, put it bold, and glue it back together again?
[04:54] <nixternal> orly
[04:54] <nixternal> if you get that figured out, let me know
[04:54] <ryanakca> yeah, I'll get you the link to the spec
[04:54] <ryanakca> nixternal: http://www.galago-project.org/specs/notification/
[05:03] <manchicken> Are we waiting until UDS before anybody posts ideas for bored hackers to consider?
[05:09] <nixternal> yup
[06:03] <ryanakca> nixternal: I think I've got a fix for adding   : sed 's#<\([^<>] *\)>#&#g'
[06:42] <ryanakca> safe to reset bug 86598 to confirmed since I'm experiencing the bug once more?
[06:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 86598 in kdepim "Kmail crashing when aplying all filters to all mails" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86598
[06:43] <ryanakca> Tonio released a fix over a month ago...
[06:45] <gggggdxn> I set globle enviroment variable $LD_PRELOAD in /etc/profile, but when KDE starts, it was unsetted by start_kdeinit. Can you tell me that in which file should I reset that variable? Thank you!
[08:03] <aamachu> hi
[08:03] <aamachu> i am the contact person of ubuntu tamil team
[08:03] <aamachu> looking forward to a mentor who could guide us in making a distro based on Kubuntu
[08:59] <Riddell> nixternal: no edgy docs update?
[09:52] <jdong> good afternoon, kubuntu world
[10:12] <nixternal> Riddell: the edgy docs update is http://www.nixternal.com/pkg
[10:12] <nixternal> under edgy-docs
[10:22] <_StefanS_> evening
[10:22] <_StefanS_> Riddell: ping?
[10:22] <_StefanS_> Riddell: Tried the kubuntu live cd for the ps3; doesn't work unfortunately. But the ubuntu livecd has the same problem too
[10:23] <ryanakca> nixternal: ping, fixed/fancy libnotify script is on planet
[10:23] <nixternal> yo yo
[10:23] <nixternal> rock on!
[10:23] <_StefanS_> Riddell: What seems to work is the alternate ubuntu cd. Seems like its related to the naming of the hdd partitions
[10:23] <ryanakca> :)
[10:23] <nixternal> I just tried irn-bru for the first time
[10:23] <nixternal> definitely an acquired taste
[10:24] <nixternal> we just got new neighbors from Riddell's neck of the woods
[10:24] <_StefanS_> Riddell: Booting in livecd (k)ubuntu it states sda for the 10gb hdd where the linux system should be installed. However when using the alternate CD, it gets the name sdd instead (?)
[10:24] <_StefanS_> Riddell: that was the report :)
[10:26] <ryanakca> nixternal: hmm... irn-bru. Highland Games. Every year :)
[10:28] <nixternal> highlight me really quick
[10:28] <nixternal> want to see if it works for me
[10:29] <nixternal> ryanakca: didn't work for me
[10:29] <ryanakca> nixternal: no?
[10:29] <nixternal> do you have <nick> setup for irssi?
[10:29] <ryanakca> missing icon?
[10:29] <nixternal> hrmm
 setup?
[10:30] <ryanakca> .irssi/fnotify looks like this for me:     #kubuntu-devel < nixternal> ryanakca: didn't work for me
[10:30] <nixternal> I get the highlights, but they don't look nice and formatted anymore
[10:31] <ryanakca> hmm...
[10:31] <ryanakca> do you have two highlight scripts running at the same time?
[10:31] <ryanakca> and... have a screeny?
[10:31] <nixternal> #ubuntu-chicago [      rr73]  XnixternalX
[10:31] <nixternal> that is how mine looks
[10:31] <ryanakca> ah
[10:31] <nixternal> I see where too fix it
[10:31] <ryanakca> yeah
[10:32] <ryanakca> It has to do with the theme you use, I think
[10:32] <ryanakca> What theme are you using? I'll check...
[10:33] <nixternal> it isn't bolding the user at all
[10:33] <ryanakca> hmm...
[10:34] <ryanakca> nixternal: switch `do notify-send bleh "$header" "$message"` to `do echo "$header" "$message"`, and check what the output is
[10:35] <_StefanS_> anyone know what the ps3 ubuntu channel is called?
[10:36] <nixternal> the output is correct, the format isn't
[10:36] <ryanakca> pastebin?
[10:39] <nixternal> #ubuntu-chicago [      rr73]  XnixternalX
[10:39] <nixternal> grrr
[10:39] <ryanakca> no '' ?
[10:39] <nixternal> none
[10:39] <ryanakca> hmm... something in the sed
[10:40] <nixternal> '/^#/s|\([^ ] * \)\[\([^] \] *\)>\(.*\)|\1\[\2\]\3|;/^[^#] /s|[^ ] *|&|'
[10:40] <ryanakca> you want this:
[10:40] <ryanakca> '/^#/s|\([^ ] * \)\[\([^\] ] *\)>\(.*\)|\1\<\2\>\3|;/^[^#] /s|[^ ] *|&|'
[10:40] <ryanakca> I think
[10:41] <nixternal> unterminated s
[10:41] <nixternal> which one
[10:41] <nixternal> heh
[10:42] <ryanakca> ah
[10:42] <ryanakca> escape the # in #91
[10:42] <ryanakca> and in #93
[10:43] <ryanakca> methinks
[10:43] <nixternal> I am using the one you just pasted
[10:43] <nixternal> the one I had worked except it didn't have the bolds work on the username
[10:43] <ryanakca> ok
[10:43] <ryanakca> the one you have, escape the two pound signs. that might workd
[10:46] <nixternal> oh well, I work with it in a bit, I am going to bbq
[10:46] <ryanakca> kk, have fun :)
[11:51] <_StefanS_> hey
[11:51] <_StefanS_> wow I'm online on KDE on my PS3 :D
[11:52] <Arby> cool :)
[11:54] <_StefanS_> works great
[11:54] <_StefanS_> even though it hasnt got that much memory
[11:54] <Arby> how much do those things have?
[11:55] <_StefanS_> 256mb.. and I have 22mb left :-%
[11:55] <_StefanS_> I wonder how I enable the rest of the cpu
[11:55] <_StefanS_> cpu's
[11:55] <_StefanS_> I only have two now..
[11:56] <Arby> aren't PS3s turbo charged in the processor department.
[11:56] <_StefanS_> kinda ..
[11:56] <_StefanS_> but the other stuff seems slow..
[11:56] <_StefanS_> hd and so on
[12:02] <_StefanS_> gotta sleep.
[12:02] <_StefanS_> night