[12:53] <zorglu_> man mkdir
[12:54] <zorglu_> man chown
[12:54] <zorglu_> man chmod
[12:54] <zorglu_> thhis will give you the basic of file right management in unix
[12:55] <Gean> zorglu_: i don't get the last part
[12:55] <Gean> suppose the folder's name is Java
[01:13] <ubuntu> I get this when trying to install kubuntu: "could not install bootloader
[01:13] <ubuntu> and after mounting and checking
[01:13] <ubuntu> there is no /boot/grub folder ..
[01:13] <ubuntu> whatsup?
[01:13] <ninHer> hi all
[01:14] <ubuntu> there are only  a few *.386 files in the /boot
[01:15] <lluka> hey does anyone know how to install the drivers for an intel 945g?
[01:16] <n3storm> lluka: from what I know the module is already installed in dapper
[01:16] <n3storm> i900
[01:17] <lluka> hmm odd koz i cant change my screen res past 1024x768
[01:17] <bele> lluka: I guess it works out-of-box
[01:17] <bele> lluka: you should instaa package 915resoltuion
[01:17] <lluka> lemme look for that
[01:18] <lluka> ok installed
[01:18] <lluka> im unfamiliar with this... do i have to restart x?
[01:19] <bele> lluka: yes
[01:19] <lluka> k brb
[01:19] <bele> and before that
[01:22] <M4X1MUM> !dapper
[01:22] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[01:25] <ubuntu> possible to install grub if /boot/grub doesn't exist?
[01:26] <MenZa> !grub > ubunt
[01:26] <MenZa> !grub > ubuntu
[01:26] <MenZa> there we go.
[01:26] <ubuntu> I tried istalling using the howto from the forums, but that requires /boot/grub to be present
[01:27] <ubuntu> MenZa: no, those require that /boot/grub be present
[01:27] <ubuntu> I tried boot floppies
[01:27] <MenZa> ubuntu: oh?
[01:27] <MenZa> !info grub
[01:27] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 748 kB
[01:27] <lluka> how do i use 915resolution?
[01:28] <bele> lluka: easiest is to reboot
[01:28] <lluka> just did
[01:28] <bele> lluka: and it didnt work?
[01:28] <lluka> i dont see any other res in my control panel
[01:28] <lluka> but im thinking i can do it from the terminal
[01:29] <bele> lluka: it should automatically work with your screens navite resolution
[01:30] <lluka> well, im not in kde, maybe thats why
[01:30] <lluka> im using enlightenment
[01:30] <bele> lluka:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver?highlight=%28915%29
[01:31] <lluka> thnx
[01:44] <lluka> hey im using 915resolution but it makes my screen flicker
[01:44] <lluka> and turn off
[01:45] <Linux_Galore> ?? @ 915
[01:45] <lluka> im trying to change my resolution past 1024x768
[01:45] <Mortice> lluka: I assume you mean you're passing vga=915 to the kernel at boot time. when exactly does your screen flicker? when X starts, or during the bootup process?
[01:46] <lluka> when x restarted
[01:46] <lluka> not at boot time i havent added that yet
[01:46] <Mortice> lluka: well, what do you mean by 915resolution?
[01:46] <lluka> its an application
[01:47] <lluka> it replaces resolution with another
[01:47] <Mortice> lluka: what's wrong with kubuntu's programs for that?
[01:47] <lluka> kubuntu wont let me go past a certain res
[01:47] <Mortice> oh, i see, this appears to be an intel 915 chipset thing
[01:48] <lluka> yah
[01:48] <lluka> i think the problem is the monitor tho
[01:48] <lluka> :S
[01:48] <Linux_Galore> lluka: always manually edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file
[01:48] <Mortice> lluka: i'm afraid i have no experience with 915 chipsets, but have you tried enabling other resolutions by doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[01:49] <Linux_Galore> lluka: the 915 chipset doesnt define the resolution your monitor does
[01:49] <lluka> hmm
[01:49] <lluka> well it lists modes i can choose
[01:49] <lluka> lemme try reconfiguring xorg
[01:50] <Linux_Galore> lluka: look for the line DefaultColorDepth
[01:50] <Linux_Galore> lluka: in my case its 23
[01:50] <Linux_Galore> 24 sorry
[01:50] <lluka> hmm ok
[01:50] <thygrrr> Can I somehow tell Konqueror to automagically try "www.hostname.tld" if "hostname.tld" alone doesn't work?
[01:51] <Linux_Galore> then I look further down for Subsection "Display" , Depth 24
[01:51] <Linux_Galore> the following line sets my default resolution Virtual 1280 1024
[01:52] <Linux_Galore> lluka: change that to what you want it to be
[01:53] <lluka> im afraid to do this because it might not come back on :S
[01:54] <Linux_Galore> lluka: well make a copy of the xorg.conf  file call it xorg.conf_back
[01:54] <Linux_Galore> lluka: if X fails just rename the back file to the original name and delete the modified file
[01:55] <Linux_Galore> lluka: you can test it before you logout
[01:55] <Linux_Galore> just in case
[01:55] <Linux_Galore> lluka: press ctrl alt F1  login then type  xinit /usr/bin/startkde -- :1
[01:56] <Linux_Galore> lluka: should start a new X session with the new resolution
[01:56] <Linux_Galore> lluka: to kill it press ctrl alt backspace and to go back to your original desktop press ctrl alt F6
[01:57] <Linux_Galore> lluka: Linux can suppoer multiple graphical sessions at the same time
[01:57] <Linux_Galore> support*
[02:00] <Linux_Galore> thygrrr: konqueror should automatically already do that
[02:08] <lluka> thanks guys the xorg.conf editing worked!
[02:08] <lluka> :)
[02:12] <Linux_Galore> lluka: we aim to please
[02:15] <lluka> anyone know where i can find the doom iwad?:p
[02:16] <_ikk> ei,lluka
[02:16] <_ikk> how du you du
[02:17] <thygrrr> Linux_Galore, nope, my konqueror doesn't do it (anymore?). That's why I'm asking.
[02:22] <Knifa> when i try to install kubuntu onto my computer, the live boot cd dies at mounting root system and the alternative cd refuses to detect my cd-drive
[02:22] <Knifa> what should i do D:
[02:22] <Knifa> get another cd drive?
[02:23] <Linux_Galore> thygrrr: Settings->Configure Konqueror  goto web shortcuts  and define one
[02:23] <klingsor> Knifa: other drive is a good choice...
[02:23] <Knifa> i'll give it a try
[02:23] <klingsor> Knifa: Had a similar problem once
[02:23] <Knifa> i tried it last night but it wouldn't POST. i didn't check the pins so it was probably that
[02:23] <Knifa> and i just went to bed.
[02:24] <Knifa> i'll go give it a try now
[02:24] <Knifa> :3
[02:32] <Knifa> same deal
[02:32] <Knifa> :
[02:32] <Knifa> :/
[02:33] <Knifa> dies at mounting root system
[02:33] <Knifa> or whatever
[02:33] <Knifa> i think its' my mobo
[02:34] <IndyBC> How can I change the song information (artist, album etc) about a .mp3 file?
[02:36] <KDEfanboy> IndyBC: in amarok, right click the file and select 'Track Information...'
[02:38] <[GuS] > Bonjour
[02:38] <KDEfanboy> !fr
[02:39] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:39] <elias_> I know this is the wrong place but the ubuntu guys don't seem to know: Does anybody know how to print to PDF in gnome?
[02:47] <ArRiEsP17> ola
[02:48] <KDEfanboy> !es
[02:48] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:50] <ArRiEsP17> ok sorry
[02:50] <KDEfanboy> np
[02:52] <tomek_> Cze
[02:52] <KDEfanboy> !cz
[02:52] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[02:53] <tomek_> mam pyatnie apropos firewalla
[02:53] <tomek_> jakiego uywacie ??
[02:53] <tomek_> do Kubuntu
[02:54] <KDEfanboy> i have no idea
[02:54] <KDEfanboy> :)
[02:54] <tomek_> :)
[02:55] <tomek_> what firewall do you use on Kubuntu ??
[02:56] <sudharsh> tomek_: firestarter, afaik, kubuntu is fine by itself...
[02:56] <tomek_> hmmm
[02:56] <KDEfanboy> !firewall
[02:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[02:57] <tomek_> ok I understand
[02:57] <bele> or GuardDog for firewall cong
[02:57] <octan> hey can i run google earth in amd64 ?
[02:57] <tomek_> already I have guarddog on system
[02:58] <tomek_> but it doesn ;t work
[02:58] <tomek_> I don;t know what is a problem
[02:58] <bele> tomek_: really? should work :)
[02:59] <tomek_> really ...
[03:00] <tomek_> may I use a firestarter ??
[03:00] <tomek_> on Kubuntu ??
[03:01] <[GuS] > tomek_, yes
[03:01] <klingsor> tomek_: why not?
[03:02] <tomek_> I think that Gnome's program .................:)
[03:02] <[GuS] > tomek_, and?
[03:02] <[GuS] > QT handles very well GTK apps
[03:02] <[GuS] > more than GTK could with QT...
[03:02] <tomek_> and,... I don t know :))
[03:03] <[GuS] > tomek_, you could install i will work very well
[03:03] <drbeams> is there a way to pull system info as in mobo model, or nic model # from the pc in kubuntu with a live disc ?
[03:03] <[GuS] > nothing have to do that is an "gnome" app...
[03:03] <tomek_> ok thanks
[03:03] <[GuS] > drbeams, in console, lspci
[03:03] <tomek_> bye
[03:04] <[GuS] > or just in K-menu, System, KInfoCenter
[03:06] <v3ctor> does the livecd have lshw ?
[03:09] <dragonfire1> gm
[03:09] <diswill> hello everyone. I seem to have lost sound recently. would someone help me get sound working again?
[03:10] <spriet> hi
[03:10] <diswill> hi spriet
[03:11] <spriet> i  installed first kubuntu and then Suse and no i like to mount the partition witch contains Suse somone can helb me?
[03:12] <diswill> I do the mounting by editing the /ect/fstab
[03:14] <spriet> k thx
[03:16] <dragonfire1> Where would you find to edit teh /etc/fstab in the kernal command to do that sorry newbie trying to partion also
[03:16] <octan> !amd64
[03:16] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[03:16] <octan> !amd64 google eart
[03:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amd64 google eart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:16] <octan> !google earth amd64
[03:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google earth amd64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <octan> crapy bot
[03:20] <main2> octan: stupid you :p
[03:20] <main2> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[03:21] <octan> main2, you mean http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Google_Earth
[03:21] <octan> it suxz
[03:23] <grizzly> urgh the kubuntu installer is so buggyyyyy!!!
[03:23] <main2> octan: UTFS :D
[03:23] <grizzly> one cannot install with xfs partition
[03:23] <main2> grizzly: just use normal ext3, its the best
[03:24] <grizzly> main2: just want to play with it
[03:24] <grizzly> have a look
[03:25] <gnomefreak> grizzly: might try using the alternate installer for that
[03:25] <grizzly> gnomefreak: the alternate cd u mean?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> yes
[03:25] <gpkumaran> @everyone, please tell me info about installing packages
[03:25] <octan> main2, what are you talking about
[03:25] <gnomefreak> !adept > gpkumaran
[03:26] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: read your m from ubotu
[03:26] <grizzly> gnomefreak: that I can't @ 64kbps
[03:26] <grizzly> but nvmind
[03:26] <gnomefreak> s/m/pm
[03:26] <main2> octan: im telling you to use the fuckin search =)
[03:26] <grizzly> heres the bug report with a solution: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugs/2006-June/231189.html
[03:26] <gnomefreak> main2: watch your language
[03:26] <main2> !friendly
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about friendly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <octan> main2, i did and i dont find anything about it
[03:26] <grizzly> !being friendly
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about being friendly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <grizzly> lol
[03:27] <octan> !stfu
[03:27] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[03:27] <ArRiEsP17> xao gnt
[03:27] <gpkumaran> thank you gnomefreak.
[03:27] <gnomefreak> yw gpkumaran
[03:28] <main2> octan: http://www.ubuntux.org/install-google-earth-on-amd64-via-chroot
[03:29] <rbrunhuber> hi all
[03:30] <gpkumaran> gnomefreak: i tried to install yahoo messenger package with right click-->Kubuntu package menu--> install package
[03:31] <gpkumaran> @gnomefreak, but it said that it depends on some other packages
[03:31] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: there a yahoo messanger app in kubuntu?
[03:31] <gnomefreak> messenger*
[03:32] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: sudo apt-get install packagename     replace package name with the name of the package
[03:32] <tomek_> hi, I have one guestions about nvidia
[03:32] <octan> main2, it doesnt worj
[03:32] <gnomefreak> tomek_: go for it
[03:32] <octan> .......Extraction failed.
[03:32] <octan> .Signal caught, cleaning up
[03:33] <tomek_> what may I install ??
[03:33] <gnomefreak> tomek_: nvidia-glx
[03:33] <main2> octan: ur download is broken dude
[03:33] <gpkumaran> when i tried installing those packages, it says that they depend on some other packages and so on...
[03:33] <gpkumaran> what can i do?
[03:33] <tomek_> I have Nvidia 5200 FX T
[03:33] <octan> main2, i downloaded it 2 times now
[03:33] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: are you using dapper?
[03:33] <gpkumaran> yes
[03:33] <gnomefreak> tomek_: thats the right package the nvidia-glx
[03:33] <main2> 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'
[03:33] <tomek_> legacy ??
[03:34] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: can you paste the output of the command to pastebin
[03:34] <main2> type in konsole..
[03:34] <gnomefreak> tomek_: no
[03:34] <tomek_> ok
[03:34] <tomek_> tkanks
[03:34] <gnomefreak> for the 5200 its nvidia-glx
[03:34] <tomek_> ok
[03:35] <gpkumaran> gnomefreak: sorry for being so childish... :-) how can i pastebin
[03:35] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[03:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:36] <gpkumaran> !pastebin
[03:36] <gpkumaran> gpkumaran@gpkumaran-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[03:36] <gpkumaran> (Reading database ... 65393 files and directories currently installed.)
[03:36] <gpkumaran> Preparing to replace ymessenger 1.0.4_1 (using ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb) ...
[03:36] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: just use the link ubotu gave you
[03:36] <gpkumaran> Unpacking replacement ymessenger ...
[03:36] <gpkumaran> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ymessenger:
[03:36] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: stop pasting please
[03:36] <gpkumaran>  ymessenger depends on libgdk-pixbuf2 (>= 0.13.0); however:
[03:36] <gpkumaran>   Package libgdk-pixbuf2 is not installed.
[03:36] <gpkumaran>  ymessenger depends on libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0); however:
[03:40] <gpkumaran> !pastebin
[03:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:42] <WinUninstall>  possibile ridimensione una partizione NTFS?
[03:45] <gpkumaran> gnomefreak: can i install debian packages in ubuntu
[03:45] <main2> sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[03:45] <main2> gpkumaran: but do not use packages from the debian repository
[03:46] <insanekane>
[03:46] <hyper> hello abattoir
[03:46] <abattoir> hi hyper :)
[03:46] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: please dont use debian repos
[03:46] <abattoir> !fr
[03:46] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:46] <abattoir> WinUninstall: ^^^^
[03:46] <hyper> abattoir: Just a small question: how can I disable kmix from starting?
[03:47] <WinUninstall> ops
[03:47] <abattoir> WinUninstall: you want to resize your NTFS partition?
[03:47] <WinUninstall> Sorry
[03:47] <gpkumaran> main2: i have already installed certain packages from the debian site(i dunno whats meant by repos)
[03:47] <WinUninstall> abattoir, Yes
[03:47] <hyper> abattoir: I rebooted twice and both times kmix used up all cpu
[03:47] <gpkumaran> sorry i`m a newbie
[03:47] <abattoir> hyper: that's weird
[03:47] <WinUninstall> abattoir, I've readed about ntfsprogs
[03:47] <hyper> resizing ntfs partition: get Partition Magic from PowerQuest
[03:48] <abattoir> WinUninstall: i'd recommend doing it from Windows
[03:48] <WinUninstall> hybrid, It cost...
[03:48] <gpkumaran> main2: then where can i find ubuntu packages. what about the debian packages i already installed
[03:48] <WinUninstall> abattoir, How?
[03:48] <rbrunhuber> is there a "preferred application" gui in kubuntu like in ubuntu?
[03:48] <abattoir> WinUninstall: i think there are shareware/demo applications, which might be helpful
[03:48] <main2> gpkumaran: how did you install them?
[03:49] <abattoir> WinUninstall: using one of thse Partitioning programs ;)
[03:49] <main2> gpkumaran:  did you add the debian repository to your list?
[03:49] <WinUninstall> abattoir, OK
[03:49] <WinUninstall> I will try with gparted
[03:49] <main2> gpkumaran: use adept from 'system' in the kde menu to install software
[03:49] <gpkumaran> main2: by right clicking-->Kubuntu package menu-->install
[03:49] <hyper> rbrunhuber: There is: KDE Button --> System Settings --> Default Applications
[03:50] <abattoir> hyper: do you have session management on?
[03:50] <hyper> WinUninstall: Well, you could get a crack for PM....
[03:50] <hyper> abattoir: Well I guess so... it's a default Edgy install and it keeps starting up the same proggies
[03:51] <abattoir> hyper: ok, did you try closing it when logging out?
[03:51] <abattoir> hyper: please refrain from that here, thanks :)
[03:51] <hyper> abattoir: I just killed the process "kill -9 pid"
[03:52] <rbrunhuber> @hyper: i have no system settings menu. and in system settings their is no default applications button
[03:53] <abattoir> rbrunhuber: are you on Kubuntu?
[03:53] <rbrunhuber> yes i am
[03:53] <abattoir> rbrunhuber: there is no System Settings entry in the Menu?
[03:54] <Mochito> good morning
[03:54] <main2> gpkumaran: use 'adept' or 'apt' to install software, and do not install packages from other distro's
[03:54] <rbrunhuber> abattoir: i just found it but it is not in system settings i have to call kcontrol from the console
[03:54] <gpkumaran> main2: are the programs in windows same as packages in ubuntu
[03:54] <abattoir> rbrunhuber: System settings and Kcontrol have the same modules
[03:55] <rbrunhuber> abattoir: not here
[03:55] <main2> gpkumaran: what are you talking about?
[03:55] <main2> linux != windows
[03:55] <abattoir> rbrunhuber: anyways, go to KDE Components->Default Associations(or some variation of that)
[03:55] <Mochito> i dont' know man
[03:55] <rbrunhuber> abattoir: thank you i already found it
[03:55] <abattoir> rbrunhuber: well, it should be on the menu, unless it was accidentally(or intentionally) removed
[03:55] <gpkumaran> main2: i`m very sorry. i already told you that i`m a newbie.
[03:56] <Mochito> i wanna know how can i install a package
[03:56] <Mochito> ?
[03:56] <hyper> mochito: what package?
[03:56] <hyper> mochito: there are different ways :)
[03:56] <Dr_willis> Mochito,  fire up adept, search, click, install.
[03:56] <main2> gpkumaran: np
[03:57] <hyper> rbrunhuber - can you put a screenshot online?
[03:57] <rbrunhuber> abattoir: i have system-settings in the menu. i just thougth it ought to be a menu not a application.
[03:57] <gpkumaran> main2: i just wanna know what should i do if i wanna install another program like opera or firefox
[03:57] <main2> start adept
[03:57] <Dr_willis> -->   fire up adept, search, click, install.
[03:57] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:57] <main2> (in the kde menu, click on system - then 'adept' > enter your password)
[03:57] <Dr_willis> or use that add/remove program icon.
[03:57] <gpkumaran> main2: actually whats a package. is it same as a setup file in windows
[03:57] <hyper> or use aptitude or apt-get
[03:58] <main2> gpkumaran: you could compare if you want, but packages are way better then stupid setup.exe files
[03:58] <Dr_willis> package systems are WAY WAY better then setup.exe files...
[03:58] <rbrunhuber> hyper: i solved it already thank you. I sometimes just get a little confuses because i have way to many apps installed (having both kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop installed)
[03:58] <main2> there are also packages containing sourcecode of the program
[03:58] <Dr_willis> its sad when i download 5+ programs for windows.. and they all come named  'setup.exe'
[03:59] <Dr_willis> and then those 5 programs have to have some sort of 'update' feature/systemtrayicon for updates... which is ALSO a feature handled by the package managers. :)
[04:00] <Mochito> can i install karamba in Kubuntu??
[04:00] <Dr_willis> then those 5 progrms also have to put in 'uninstall' icons  normally in their own menus, and in the add/remove programs tool.. which is also handled by the package manager. :P
[04:00] <abattoir> Mochito: karamba or superkaramba?
[04:00] <Dr_willis> !info karamba
[04:00] <ubotu> karamba: A program improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-5.1build1 (dapper), package size 68 kB, installed size 308 kB
[04:00] <Dr_willis> !info superkaramba
[04:00] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 504 kB, installed size 1376 kB
[04:00] <gpkumaran> main2: ok. now i wanna install a ftp program for kubuntu. where can i find one and how to install it
[04:01] <Dr_willis> !ftp
[04:01] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[04:01] <Dr_willis> konqueror the  default file manager can handle ftp..
[04:01] <niroxx> how can i change the size of the desktopicons ?
[04:01] <Dr_willis> or install kbear if you like.
[04:01] <Dr_willis> !info kbear
[04:01] <ubotu> kbear: graphical ftp client for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.1-13ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2401 kB, installed size 8604 kB
[04:02] <gpkumaran> from where can i download these(gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd)
[04:02] <main2> gpkumaran: type 'kbear' in adept -> in the searchbar
[04:02] <main2> it will popup, rightclick and install it
[04:02] <main2> have you found adept meanwhile?
[04:03] <emonkey-p> !kbeat > emonkey-p
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbeat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <emonkey-p> !kbear > emonkey-p
[04:03] <gpkumaran> yes i have found adept and opened it
[04:03] <niroxx> How can i change the size of the desktopicons ?
[04:03] <emonkey-p> !kbear > niroxx
[04:03] <niroxx> oh
[04:04] <niroxx> thanks
[04:04] <gpkumaran> now when i type kbear and press enter. nothing happens
[04:04] <main2> gpkumaran: try to find out what adept is, and how it works
[04:04] <main2> gpkumaran: you have to wait a minute
[04:04] <gpkumaran> !ftp
[04:04] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[04:05] <main2> stop it
[04:07] <Sanne_> I would also add kftpgrabber to the ftp client lists. I tested it once and it seemed pretty nice. http://www.kftp.org/misc/screenshots
[04:12] <gpkumaran> gnomefreak: welcome back. suppose i want to find and install a ftp client in kubuntu 6.06 what shud i do
[04:12] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: apt-cache search ftp  and see one that sounds good im not sure what good ones kubuntu has
[04:14] <Sanne_> gpkumaran: consider my suggestion above, or just use konqueror.
[04:14] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: try kasablanca
[04:14] <gpkumaran> gnomefreak: it says could not run the specified command
[04:14] <gpkumaran> where can i get kasablanca
[04:14] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: what command did you use (i just ran it fine)
[04:14] <gnomefreak> !info kasablanca
[04:14] <ubotu> kasablanca: a FTP client for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 157 kB, installed size 600 kB
[04:15] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: the universe repo
[04:15] <abattoir> gnomefreak: i dont even think he has it installed
[04:15] <gnomefreak> abattoir: has what installed?
[04:15] <abattoir> any ftp client, when you said kasablanca, he just tried executing the command
[04:15] <gnomefreak> ah
[04:15] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: sudo apt-get install kasablanca
[04:15] <abattoir> gpkumaran: people have already told you what to do...
[04:15] <DaSkreech> Oh!
[04:15] <gpkumaran> gnomefreak: apt -cache search ftp
[04:16] <gnomefreak> no space
[04:16] <DaSkreech> What's the mediamanager?
[04:16] <gnomefreak> apt-cache search ftp
[04:16] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: the other guys would know better what ones are good on kubuntu
[04:16] <gnomefreak> im hacking at gnome right now but later i might end up on kubuntu
[04:16] <DaSkreech> My friend keeps trying media:/ and gets mediamanager not running
[04:17] <omar> do you know games for xubuntu , like spider or sol, how can I get 'em ive tried apt-get install kgames, ksol, but nothing
[04:17] <DaSkreech> omar: try not using the k :)
[04:17] <Dr_willis> defind 'nothing'
[04:17] <DaSkreech> Those are X or gnome games
[04:17] <DaSkreech> !doesn't work
[04:17] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[04:17] <Dr_willis> use adept. search, click, install , enjoy. :P
[04:28] <omar> DaSkreech: you mean synaptic
[04:28] <omar> Dr_Willis: yuo mean synaptic
[04:28] <DaSkreech> omar: Nope I mean you are installing ksol etc when you are looking for a non KDE application
[04:29] <omar> DaSkreech: I just need the games, kde, g , no problem which
[04:29] <DaSkreech> Ah ok :)
[04:29] <DaSkreech> Then apt-get away
[04:29] <DaSkreech> might want to try kpat as well
[04:30] <rbrunhuber> does anyone have the problem to kaddressbook/kontact does not show umlauts in vcards
[04:30] <omar> DaSkreech: come on, please
[04:30] <rbrunhuber> to=too
[04:30] <omar> DaSkreech: ok, like apt-get kpat
[04:30] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get install kpat
[04:30] <admin__> Poland rulez
[04:32] <admin__> Whats the topic?
[04:33] <DaSkreech> try typing /topic
[04:35] <chx> Xorg eats 97% of my system, what could cause this? What log ifle should I read?
[04:36] <power91> siemka
[04:36] <TheGeek> any experienced users around?
[04:36] <DaSkreech> chx: I guess /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:36] <DaSkreech> TheGeek: Nope You'll have to make do with us :)
[04:36] <power91> see you
[04:36] <DaSkreech> power91: Hi
[04:37] <admin__> POLSKA
[04:38] <TheGeek> alright da;
[04:38] <chx> HUH! Skype 1.3 caused this
[04:38] <TheGeek> how do you change icons in kubentu
[04:39] <omar> thanks
[04:39] <Almad|Notebook> TheGeek: in control panel
[04:40] <admin__> hello there=D
[04:40] <TheGeek> where cani get new themes?
[04:40] <abattoir> TheGeek: kde-look.org
[04:40] <chx> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.ca/189888 this was found in /var/log/messages
[04:40] <Almad|Notebook> Hi, i'm trying to install kinterbasdb 3.2 on Kubuntu...however, no package is available; I'm trying to build it from source, but there are strange errors in building Python-C bindings...any ideas for that or anybody knew of deb package?
[04:41] <TheGeek> almad: have you updated your python?
[04:42] <Almad|Notebook> TheGeek: to what? Using 2.4, there should be no problem
[04:43] <TheGeek> you are right
[04:43] <TheGeek> what errors are you getting
[04:43] <DaSkreech> chx: Looks like kernel stuff
[04:44] <chx> OK
[04:45] <Almad|Notebook> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25585/
[04:45] <gpkumaran> !pastebin
[04:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:45] <Knifa> my mobo haet cubuntu
[04:45] <Knifa> err
[04:45] <Knifa> kubuntu
[04:45] <Knifa> :(
[04:46] <Almad|Notebook> TheGeek: hopefully all required -dev packages should be installed
[04:46] <gpkumaran> anyone know if theres any application for controlling nokia phones(like pc suite)
[04:46] <TheGeek> google it gp
[04:47] <Knifa> can i install kubuntu/ubuntu through windows some how?
[04:47] <Knifa> the installer itself won't detect my cd drive for some unknown reason
[04:48] <Knifa> despite getting into the bootloader from it.
[04:48] <TheGeek> try buring a new image
[04:48] <Knifa> it's the same deal with two of the cds i have
[04:48] <Knifa> the livecd one and the alternative one
[04:48] <DaSkreech> Knifa: Live Cd ?
[04:48] <Knifa> i've also tried with 2 diffrent drives
[04:48] <DaSkreech> Ah ok
[04:48] <TheGeek> which version are you using
[04:48] <Knifa> latest
[04:48] <DaSkreech> did you do a md5 sum on the ISO?
[04:49] <DaSkreech> Edgy beta?
[04:49] <Knifa> not a beta no
[04:49] <Knifa> well i don't think so
[04:49] <Knifa> however
[04:49] <Admiral_Chicago> 6.06?
[04:49] <Knifa> the same disc just installer perfectly on another computer
[04:49] <Knifa> yeah 6.06
[04:49] <Knifa> i think it might be my motherboard.
[04:49] <TheGeek> try installing 5.10 and then upgrade
[04:50] <Knifa> it won't actualyl boot into the installer at all though.
[04:50] <Knifa> but sure okay.
[04:50] <TheGeek> have you checked your boot device priority
[04:50] <Knifa> yes
[04:50] <Knifa> it boots to the bit where it asks you to install it
[04:50] <Knifa> with the alternative cd atleast
[04:50] <Knifa> i do that
[04:50] <Knifa> it goes for a bit
[04:50] <Knifa> then says it can't detect my CD drive
[04:51] <Knifa> the live cd gets to mounting root system then dies.
[04:51] <TheGeek> try the 5.10cd
[04:51] <Knifa> kay
[04:51] <Knifa> downloading now
[04:52] <Knifa> i still think it might be my motherboard
[04:52] <Knifa> it has some weird SATA compatability stuff that makes it come up as IDE
[04:52] <pumuky> hay alguien de espaa
[04:52] <Knifa> and turning it off doesn't seem to do anything useful
[04:52] <TheGeek> i have an idea
[04:53] <Knifa> yeah?
[04:53] <TheGeek> if even 5.10 doesn't work
[04:53] <TheGeek> try using the knoppix live cd
[04:53] <Knifa> *terror*
[04:53] <TheGeek> they are both debain based
[04:53] <Sanne_> Knifa: which motherboard is it?
[04:53] <Knifa> Gigabye 965P-DS3
[04:53] <Knifa> *Gigabyte
[04:53] <Knifa> for core 2 duos
[04:55] <sF|Xemanth> is it possible that i could break my whole dapper drake with edgy dist-upgrade ? :D
[04:55] <Sanne_> Knifa: I'm looking through applicable links listed here, maybe you mboard turns up somewhere: http://www.linux-drivers.org/
[04:56] <rbrunhuber> sF|Xemanth: this is software so this is always possible
[04:57] <Knifa> Sanne_ i just googled for my motherboard model number and ubuntu
[04:57] <Knifa> it seems people are having problems with drives
[04:57] <Knifa> like me
[04:57] <Knifa> The 2.6.18 kernel (which is still in beta as of August 23, 2006) incorporates a fix for this problem. To fix this problem on 2.6.17 a patch could be used.
[04:57] <Knifa> mabye i should try the latest beta?
[04:58] <TheGeek> maybe you should
[04:58] <Hawkwind> Knifa: 2.6.18 has gone final about a week ago
[04:58] <Hawkwind> Linux Britannia 2.6.18-01 #1 SMP Wed Sep 20 08:00:45 CDT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:58] <Hawkwind> Hence why I'm running it :)
[04:58] <Knifa> i will try the beta then
[04:58] <Sanne_> Knifa: ah, maybe you need to, if the standard kernel doesn't support your hardware correctly.
[04:58] <Knifa> yeah
[04:59] <TheGeek> better luck next time
[04:59] <Knifa> ah i can do that
[05:00] <Knifa> or use knoppix
[05:00] <Knifa> or a usb thumbstick
[05:00] <TheGeek> ya do some research and Destruction
[05:01] <Knifa> ah apperntly the latest beta doesn't work either
[05:01] <TheGeek> when did you get the system
[05:01] <Knifa> a few days ago
[05:01] <TheGeek> no wonder
[05:02] <sF|Xemanth> New init system, Upstart <- i wonder how that works from dapper upgrade ^^
[05:02] <Knifa> TheGeek what do you mean?
[05:02] <TheGeek> what is the basic diff between EdGY and Drapper
[05:02] <TheGeek> you a got a new system
[05:02] <Hawkwind> Knifa: I have a great how-to for compiling/building the kernels from kernel.org, even have a script that does it for you automatically
[05:02] <hyper> abbatoir?
[05:03] <Sanne_> Knifa: do you also search in the ubuntuforums?  I'm contiually amazed about the community resources.
[05:04] <TheGeek> since when have you been using linux
[05:05] <Knifa> i don't usually
[05:05] <Knifa> i'm installing it on another hard drive to check it otu
[05:05] <TheGeek> you
[05:05] <TheGeek> are in my league
[05:05] <Sanne_> Knifa: ahhh, I've been to Scotland once and *loved* it!
[05:05] <Knifa> i've used it before though
[05:05] <Knifa> and my dedicated server runs debian
[05:06] <TheGeek> so anyone knows how can i install new themes
[05:06] <TheGeek> on kubuntu
[05:07] <Knifa> oh apperntly the latest beta does work for my board
[05:07] <Knifa> hurray!
[05:07] <TheGeek> great
[05:07] <TheGeek> long live the Beta
[05:07] <Sanne_> Knifa: wonderful
[05:08] <TheGeek> do you know how to install a new theme
[05:09] <Knifa> i don't :(
[05:09] <TheGeek> anyone else over here knows?????????!!!!
[05:09] <MDCore> TheGeek: try asking in #kde
[05:09] <TheGeek> thx
[05:09] <Sanne_> TheGeek: I remember it was pretty easy, it's somewhere in the kontrol center.
[05:10] <Hawkwind> TheGeek: Download them from kde-look.org and then install them from within kcontrol under Look & Appearance
[05:11] <TheGeek> i'll try
[05:18] <couquinoux> franais?
[05:19] <Hawkwind> !fr
[05:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:23] <TheGeek> hey can i try to install gnome too
[05:30] <dhq> i have the source of xorg 7.1 how do i build it i hit command sudo ./configure
[05:30] <dhq> then what do i do
[05:31] <trappist> you don't sudo ./configure
[05:32] <arafat> dhq: usually type: 'make' then 'sudo make install'
[05:32] <trappist> but if you want xorg 7.1, this might be a good time to install edgy.  installing from source is going to cause you problems.
[05:32] <dhq> trappist: i wanna take the risk
[05:32] <TheGeek> bye guys
[05:32] <dhq> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[05:33] <trappist> dhq: it's not taking a risk - it *will* cause problems.  upgrading to edgy is a risk, but a sane one.
[05:34] <trappist> and then you get xorg 7.1 for free
[05:34] <kumsy> help regarding installing packages
[05:34] <dhq> trappist: well thats like 20 days more to wait which i cant wait
[05:34] <dhq> wanna try x7.1
[05:36] <octan> Hey guys i need help
[05:36] <octan> im trying to install google earth
[05:37] <octan> i have a amd64 with kubuntu amd64 installed
[05:37] <octan> i got firefox2 beta ,flash and java working
[05:37] <octan> but when i try to install google earth i get this error
[05:37] <octan> .......Extraction failed.
[05:37] <octan> .Signal caught, cleaning up
[05:38] <octan> ermm
[05:38] <octan> nuxil@Nuxil:~$ sudo sh ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[05:38] <octan> Password:
[05:38] <octan> Verifying archive integrity... All good.
[05:38] <octan> Uncompressing Google Earth for GNU/Linux 4.0.2091.....
[05:38] <octan> then
[05:38] <octan> .......Extraction failed.
[05:38] <octan> .Signal caught, cleaning up
[05:39] <octan> i thought that i was a corrupt download
[05:39] <octan> but,, i tryed downloading it like 5 times
[05:39] <octan> both with wget and firefox
[05:40] <kumsy> how to solve dependency problems? from where can i download kdelibs4  libqt3c102-mt libssl0.9.7
[05:40] <dhq> is there a guide to install xserver7.1 from sources
[05:40] <octan> and i have to set up a chrooted 32 bit jail following some wikis but that didnt help
[05:42] <octan> please help.. im open for ideas here
[05:42] <Hawkwind> dhq: Why exactly are you wanting to install xorg-7.1 anyways ?
[05:42] <Hawkwind> octan: Isn't there a deb for Google Earth ?
[05:43] <dhq> Hawkwind: just to try it
[05:43] <Hawkwind> dhq: On dapper ?
[05:43] <octan> Hawkwind, 0.= you kidding?
[05:43] <dhq> Hawkwind: yes
[05:43] <dhq> octan: y
[05:43] <octan> Hawkwind,  where is the pkg?
[05:43] <Hawkwind> dhq: Not suggested.  You should just upgrade to Edgy if you want 7.1.  Putting it on Dapper will probably break most everything
[05:44] <octan> !googleearth
[05:44] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[05:44] <octan> !googleearth.deb
[05:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about googleearth.deb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <dhq> Hawkwind: well let me see ;if i back up my system and try it i guess there wont be much harm done
[05:44] <Hawkwind> octan: There might not be, but I thought there was
[05:45] <octan> can you extract the bin for me pls?
[05:45] <Hawkwind> octan: Umm there is
[05:45] <Hawkwind> octan: apt-cache search googleearth shows it
[05:45] <Mochito> #debian
[05:45] <octan> not here
[05:45] <octan> Hawkwind, im missing a repo
[05:45] <octan> Hawkwind, which one is it in?
[05:46] <Hawkwind> googleearth | 4.0.1693-1plf3 | http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/non-free Packages
[05:46] <Hawkwind> googleearth | 4.0.1693-1plf3 | http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/non-free Sources
[05:46] <octan> alright
[05:46] <Hawkwind> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ dapper free non-free
[05:46] <Hawkwind> deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ dapper free non-free
[05:47] <Hawkwind> octan: ^^^^^^^^
[05:47] <Hawkwind> octan: Add those to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:47] <octan> im doing it now
[05:47] <octan> :)
[05:47] <JacksLivr> if i need to compile software and gc is not installed. do i need to just install gcc or install a suite like dev-tools or somehting
[05:48] <dhq> Hawkwind: i will wait for those 20 days to try xorg 7.1
[05:49] <Hawkwind> dhq: What is in 7.1 that you want so bad ?
[05:49] <padla> Hi, I'd like to know if I can install transcode and cinelerra on kubuntu...
[05:49] <Sphere> hi
[05:49] <octan> Hawkwind, what do you name them?
[05:49] <octan> main?
[05:49] <Sphere> how do i install KDE on xubuntu?
[05:50] <Hawkwind> octan: Name them ?
[05:50] <Mortice> Sphere: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:50] <octan> i get error with deb http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/non-free Sources
[05:50] <JacksLivr> if i need to compile software and gcc is not installed. do i need to just install gcc or install a suite like dev-tools or somehting
[05:50] <MetaMorfoziS> JacksLivr: build-essential
[05:50] <Sphere> Mortice: i read that you should type aptitude? whats the diference?
[05:50] <Mortice> JacksLivr: easiest way is apt-get install build-essential
[05:50] <JacksLivr> apt-get install gcc
[05:50] <octan> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/non-free main-amd64 ??
[05:50] <intelikey> Sphere or  sudo apt-get install kde
[05:50] <JacksLivr> oh thats all
[05:50] <Mortice> Sphere: not an awful lot. the backend is the same.
[05:51] <Sphere> Mortice: tested aptitude and is seemd to work but i cant fins KDE anywhere...
[05:51] <octan> Hawkwind, ??
[05:51] <Mortice> sphere: in your sessions list in GDM?
[05:51] <Hawkwind> octan: Are you using 64Bit ?
[05:51] <octan> yes
[05:51] <Hawkwind> octan: Those are the lines directly from my sources.list
[05:51] <Sphere> Mortice: im a linux n00b ..
[05:51] <DaSkreech> dhq You >can< install edgy without it being out
[05:51] <intelikey> Mortice xdm
[05:51] <Hawkwind> octan: I don't know if it's available for 64Bit
[05:51] <Mortice> intelikey: right you are. >.<
[05:52] <JacksLivr> MetaMorfoziS, Mortice: thanks, doing that now
[05:52] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Why isn't there more interest in WorldWind?
[05:52] <MetaMorfoziS> okay
[05:52] <Mortice> Sphere: when you get to the login screen, you should have an option to choose the "session type"
[05:52] <soulrider> hi everyone
[05:52] <Sphere> Mortice: i typed dpkg-reconfigure kde/gnm/kfc without success
[05:52] <dhq> DaSkreech: how
[05:52] <Sphere> Mortice: KDE is not under session type..
[05:52] <Sphere> so ill gues it didnt work
[05:52] <DaSkreech> in your sources.list change where it says dapper to edgy and save
[05:53] <DaSkreech>  the nsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:53] <dhq> Hawkwind: DaSkreech what does knot 2 mean
[05:53] <Mortice> Sphere: so you did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and kde doesn't appear in your sessions list? odd.
[05:53] <Mortice> Sphere: were there any errors?
[05:53] <DaSkreech> second stable release of edgy
[05:53] <octan> Hawkwind, ok lets check.. im downloading and installing it now :)
[05:53] <Sphere> is there anything else you have to do? i just typed "sudo aptidute
[05:53] <Hawkwind> Second release candidate of Edgy.
[05:53] <Hawkwind> Not stable
[05:53] <Sphere> "sudo aptitude install kde-desktop"
[05:53] <DaSkreech> It was a release candidate?
[05:53] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Of course
[05:54] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Stable would mean a final product
[05:54] <Mortice> Sphere: use the kubuntu-desktop package.
[05:54] <intelikey> Sphere no not kde-desktop   just kde
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: No it doesn't :-P release candidate means final product :-P
[05:54] <TheGateKeeper> what's the release date for edge?
[05:54] <DaSkreech> !schedule
[05:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:54] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Not even remotely close
[05:54] <dhq> DaSkreech: did you try edgy
[05:54] <DaSkreech> oct 26 I think
[05:54] <Sphere> so i should just type "aptitude install kde"?
[05:54] <DaSkreech> dhq:  Yes
[05:54] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: You have RC, beta, then final
[05:54] <Mortice> intelikey: why are you suggesting kde over kubuntu-desktop?
[05:55] <intelikey> Sphere that's what i'd sujest
[05:55] <dhq> DaSkreech: howz it
[05:55] <DaSkreech> dhq Pretty :-)
[05:55] <Sphere> =)
[05:55] <intelikey> Mortice cause Sphere didn't ask for all the packages that kubuntu installs just the full kde
[05:55] <Sphere> ill try that
[05:55] <dhq> DaSkreech: and how much time will it take me to upgrade to it i am on a 256kbps
[05:55] <Mortice> intelikey: fair enough.
[05:55] <Sphere> btw is there any way to scan a disc for errors in ubuntu?
[05:55] <octan> Hawkwind, :D Thank you very very much :)
[05:56] <octan> you repo worked :)
[05:56] <Mortice> Sphere: fsck
[05:56] <Sphere> sudo fsck hda1 for example?
[05:56] <Hawkwind> octan: Kewl
[05:56] <Mortice> Sphere: sudo fsck /dev/hda1 for example :)
[05:56] <intelikey> Sphere remount it read only then run fsck on it.   or if you mean phisical error testing  badblocks it the app
[05:57] <abionnnn> Is there any way to run XFIG in Kubuntu?
[05:57] <Mortice> Sphere: but yea, don't run it while mounted. it should get checked each boot anyway
[05:57] <Sphere> Mortice: okey...
[05:57] <Sphere> badblocks is that included in ubuntu?
[05:57] <intelikey> yep
[05:57] <Sphere> where do i find it?
[05:57] <intelikey> which badblocks
[05:58] <intelikey> type that in a terminal ^
[05:58] <Sphere> btw can you unmount the system disc?
[05:58] <intelikey> no you have to remount,ro
[05:58] <intelikey> sudo mount -o remount,ro /
[05:58] <DaSkreech> dhq: soonere than it would take to compile x.org 7.1
[05:59] <DaSkreech> abionnnn: XFIG?
[05:59] <dhq> ok
[05:59] <abionnnn> DaSkreech: somewhat popular figure editor which uses Xaw3d widgets
[06:00] <TheGateKeeper> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot3/Kubuntu <-- doesn't say which version of kde
[06:00] <intelikey> Sphere also you should be advised that any command that requires "sudo" (root privilages)  you should read at least the description for the command in the manuals       man man  &&  man intor
[06:01] <intelikey> that is.    man man  &&  man intor    for information on how to use the man pages.
[06:01] <Sphere> thanks for all the help guys...!
[06:02] <intelikey> errrr man intro
[06:02] <luis_lopez> quick question: is swapd enabled by default in Egdy? How's the swap management done in this version?
[06:02] <intelikey> transpositional typist....
[06:07] <intelikey> Mortice also concerning why i was sujesting kde over kubuntu-desktop,  the subject in question started with xubuntu; which would normally indicate either a sense of curiosity, or a minimalistic attatude.  in either case i try to point toword what they specificly ask about.  even if i think that something else is better.   (not that you really wanted a full explanation)  :)
[06:07] <Mortice> heh. perfectly fair enough :)
[06:09] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:10] <DaSkreech> hi
[06:10] <frojnd> can someone help me youtube and simillar pages make them work
[06:11] <DaSkreech> simialr pages?
[06:11] <frojnd> I can't find proper plug-ins..
[06:11] <DaSkreech> !flash
[06:11] <frojnd> youtube metacafe..
[06:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:11] <DaSkreech> read that :)
[06:11] <frojnd> k
[06:11] <frojnd> :>
[06:11] <kumsy> !packages
[06:11] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[06:11] <kumsy> !adept
[06:11] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[06:12] <intelikey> !repos
[06:12] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:12] <intelikey> might as well round it out  :)
[06:20] <intelikey> commands can be strung togather in several ways on the command line.    1.   command-1 ; command-2    is the same as typing them one at a time. the simi-colen is the same as the [enter]  key.   2. command-1 & command-2    both will start togather with command-1 running in the background.  it's abount like running command-1 and hitting ^Z  [ctrl+Z]   then running command-2
[06:21] <th0rben> hi, can anyone familiar with the graphical installer of 6.06 please PM me?
[06:21] <intelikey> 3. command-1 && command-2      command-2 runs only if command-1 finishes without error.
[06:21] <intelikey> 4. command-1 || command-2       command-2 runs only if command-1 errors out.
[06:22] <th0rben> the issue is, i am going to install kubuntu on some unused partitions, but i can't seem to change the mountpoints of those partitions, and atm they are set quite wrong
[06:23] <intelikey> th0rben the live CD ?
[06:24] <th0rben> intelikey: yes, i think so.
[06:24] <intelikey> step 5 ?
[06:24] <th0rben> intelikey: yes
[06:24] <intelikey> clicking on the mountpoint doesn't allow for changing it ?
[06:25] <sarah> hi
[06:25] <th0rben> intelikey: no, can only view infos
[06:26] <th0rben> intelikey: but i can format, but i can't change the mountpoint there
[06:26] <th0rben> and i can only format as ext2...
[06:27] <th0rben> i mounted a partition manually before, is that any help? i forgot to unmount it until the installer reminded me, that i should be sure.
[06:27] <th0rben> to have nothing mounted
[06:29] <intelikey> if i remember correctly.  you should be looking at a page that has lines with     mountpoint-box   device-identification   format-type   []  format y-n       and one line per partition.  is that what you are looking at ?
[06:31] <intelikey> last step befor installation.       that's where you confirm everything about the disk/partitions     not the first page about the partitions.     the second one.     that's where you can set the mountpoints
[06:31] <th0rben> intelikey: so i would set the mountpoints at step 6
[06:31] <th0rben> ?
[06:31] <intelikey> th0rben it's not my turn to start lying to you now.
[06:32] <intelikey> ask someone that is sure about the step number.
[06:32] <intelikey> simply put.   i don't know.
[06:32] <th0rben> intelikey: at the previous step i chose to partition manually.
[06:32] <intelikey> i thought is was step 5  maybe 6 idk
[06:33] <intelikey> it asks if it's all correct.
[06:33] <th0rben> intelikey: i dared :-)
[06:34] <intelikey> and for the record.    i hate the installer on the live CD with a purple passion
[06:34] <th0rben> intelikey: step 5 contained some substeps...
[06:34] <mikki> how do i install screen driver for my radeon 9550
[06:34] <TheGateKeeper> th0rben: if you are using the liveCD then you should be able to select manual partitioning then you can select where to mount
[06:34] <intelikey> !ati > mikki
[06:34] <th0rben> intelikey: will i get kicked if i say that i prefere gentoo anyway?
[06:34] <intelikey> not by me    lol
[06:35] <TheGateKeeper> th0rben: ok I am curious, why does (k)ubuntu interest you?
[06:36] <th0rben> TheGateKeeper: I am interested in my father being capable to do some administration stuff himself :-) and i know that (k)ubuntu would be the best choice there
[06:37] <StrahlungAlpha2> whoops. didn't mean to join this channel (even this server) but since i obviously did: Hi there :)
[06:37] <intelikey> StrahlungAlpha2 it's ok you didn't  :)
[06:37] <sarah> re
[06:38] <StrahlungAlpha2> id did not?
[06:38] <StrahlungAlpha2> now this is confusing
[06:38] <cpk2> th0rben: you set the partitions, you set the mount points and then it tells you how you have it configured and says "install" if you dont like the coniguration go back
[06:38] <TheGateKeeper> th0rben: seems like a reasonable choice to me, gentoo is great but I can't leave pc running at night, which presents a bit of a problem with big emerges
[06:39] <intelikey> your irc client joined the server and channel.... you didn't   :)
[06:39] <sarah> Question:  I added this line to  /etc/fstab
[06:39] <sarah> /dev/hda3 /home/foo/bar vfat defaults,uid=0,gid=0,umask=002 0 0
[06:39] <sarah> when I want to write data to this directory, I get this error:
[06:40] <sarah> bash: test.txt: Permission denied
[06:40] <sarah> so I cannot write the directory as user
[06:40] <sarah> how can I make it writeable for me being a user?
[06:40] <intelikey> sarah you are not in the root group
[06:40] <TheGateKeeper> (k)ubuntu is easy to install, installing software is easy to with apt-get/synaptic/adept
[06:40] <th0rben> TheGateKeeper: i only leave my pc running overnight when i emerge something like kde... but they have binaries for kde now, too
[06:40] <sarah> intelikey: sure?   sudo  works for me
[06:40] <intelikey> sarah set the uid to your uid  not root
[06:40] <mikki> how do i know if i got dapper og breezy ...?
[06:41] <sarah> intelikey: thank you
[06:41] <sarah> mine is 1000
[06:41] <sarah> thank you
[06:41] <intelikey> sarah sudo works because you are in the 'admin' group  not 'root' group
[06:41] <sarah> need to restart to see if it works
[06:41] <intelikey> and she didn't need to restart either.....
[06:41] <abattoir> mikki: 'lsb_release -a'
[06:42] <cpk2> intelikey: windows syndrome i guess
[06:42] <TheGateKeeper> th0rben: where? I installed kororaa after trashing my system trying to move it to testing because I could not face repeating all the stuff I had done
[06:42] <intelikey> yeah
[06:42] <th0rben> TheGateKeeper: emerge kde-bin did the trick iirc
[06:43] <TheGateKeeper> th0rben: thanx :-)
[06:43] <intelikey> mikki on the rare case where lsb-release is not installed you could    grep dapper /etc/apt/sources.list > /dev/null && echo dapper || echo other
[06:43] <mikki> what ?
[06:44] <intelikey> long answer to your question
[06:44] <StrahlungAlpha2> intelikey- isn't it regardless who did? i am here now
[06:44] <mikki> im trying to install ati driver: sudo sh ati-driver-installer-8.29.6.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper
[06:44] <azzco> Hi I'm using ktorrent and I've downloaded an ISO... however I've created a new map and would like to have my downloaded ISO's in that map... however I would also liike to continue seeding the ones I've downloaded... how do I change shortcuts to the ISO's?
[06:44] <TheGateKeeper> th0rben: btw if the livecd is giving you greif use the alternative cd, it's got a text installer & I think it will give you a little more control
[06:44] <mikki> but that dosnt work
[06:45] <intelikey> StrahlungAlpha2 yeah  but you said "<StrahlungAlpha2> whoops. didn't mean to join this channel..."
[06:45] <grizzly> is kubuntu's network/ethernet a lil screwed up?
[06:45] <cpk2> does apt-get ever install stuff into the home dir?
[06:45] <th0rben> TheGateKeeper: doesn't the live cd have a text installer hidden somewhere, too?
[06:45] <StrahlungAlpha2> why, then i was wrong
[06:45] <StrahlungAlpha2> curse u konversation
[06:45] <joscha> cpk2: no, but it could
[06:46] <intelikey> cpk2 i don't think it will by default.
[06:46] <grizzly> cpk2: only the config files /home/user/.someconffile afaik
[06:46] <intelikey> grizzly apt doesn't do that does it ?
[06:46] <intelikey> that would be the app it's self
[06:46] <joscha> the conf files will be generated during the first start of the application
[06:46] <intelikey> when first ran
[06:46] <joscha> not by apt
[06:47] <cpk2> ok just wondering if i would mess it up by running apt-get from root@localhost
[06:47] <intelikey> ditto joscha
[06:47] <ssddr> hey , i need help
[06:47] <TheGateKeeper> th0rben: no just the gui one
[06:47] <joscha> you could write an .deb archive which will install things in Homedirectorys... but nobody will do something stupid like that
[06:47] <ssddr> when i run apt-get
[06:48] <ssddr> this happends:
[06:48] <joscha> at least nobody working @debian, ubuntu,....
[06:48] <intelikey> cpk2 that's what sudo does.
[06:48] <th0rben> TheGateKeeper: right. but my father is looking over my shoulder, so i thought the gui installer would be a bit more 'understandable'
[06:48] <grizzly> ok suggest me an alternative to kcontrol for managin /diagnosing ethernet plz command line/gui
[06:49] <intelikey> joscha that's not so stupid if you build packages that users can install locally without root privilages
[06:49] <Dannioni> Hi, i want to log in as root (in kde), how do i do?
[06:49] <TheGateKeeper> th0rben: by all means use it if you can get it to do what you want it to do, only suggested the other one if it was giving you problems
[06:49] <intelikey> managing grizzly ifconfig
[06:49] <joscha> intelikey: sure, but for this there are parameters you can pass to dpkg
[06:50] <intelikey> right.  and they could be added to the preinstall scripts
[06:50] <TheGateKeeper> th0rben: like I said if you choose manual partitioning you should be able to set it up the way you want it, but the partitioner can be a little tempremental if you are not carefull with it
[06:50] <intelikey> but i think apt would still need uid=0 to first dl the package
[06:51] <joscha> i meant it would be stupid to install a package by default in the user-dir
[06:51] <intelikey> agreed
[06:51] <th0rben> TheGateKeeper: I noticed... i had to confirm every small step i did
[06:52] <Dannioni> Do anyone know how to do to log in as root in kde?
[06:52] <TheGateKeeper> th0rben: make sure that free space is selected before creating a partition or it will get it's knickers in a twist
[06:53] <TheGateKeeper> Dannioni: kdesu <application>
[06:53] <th0rben> TheGateKeeper: well it's too late now anyway...
[06:53] <intelikey> "<TheGateKeeper> th0rben: like I said if you choose manual partitioning you should be able to set it up the way you want it,"  <--- now that is absolutely true.  unfortunately it's not the case with the live CD installer.     i want to install on /dev/sda  but the installer on the live cd will not install there.  it demands a partition.   totally inflexable about it too
[06:54] <cpk2> i couldnt even get the live cd to let me manually partition my sda, doesnt seem to like my sata
[06:54] <th0rben> intelikey: everyone knows that you are not THAT flexible with guis
[06:54] <frojnd> hello, how can I search for all .avi files on my kubuntu?
[06:55] <dek> Krusader doesn't save settings on exit (always starts in the same dir) even though the option in settings is enabled. Using Edgy and latest Krusader. Any idea what could be wrong?
[06:55] <intelikey> th0rben i've used linux installers that allow that
[06:55] <intelikey> mandrake for one.
[06:55] <intelikey> slackware was a little more involved but worked.
[06:55] <th0rben> intelikey: the amount of gui installers is only a subset of the amount of linux installers
[06:56] <nixternal> somebody who is running dapper type at the command line         cat /etc/usplash.conf
[06:56] <nixternal> tell me if you get results pleast
[06:56] <intelikey> yeah  but the live CD doesn't even allow for a non-gui install
[06:56] <nixternal> please. thank you ;)
[06:56] <TheGateKeeper> intelikey: the livecd installer does seem a bit tempremental
[06:56] <th0rben> intelikey: do you happen to know why that is?
[06:57] <intelikey> th0rben no.
[06:57] <joscha> cat: /etc/usplash.conf: No such file or directory
[06:57] <intelikey> th0rben space issues i assume.
[06:57] <nixternal> thank you ;)
[06:58] <th0rben> intelikey: why on earth does a whois reveal, that you are logged in as root i wonder
[06:58] <intelikey> nixternal i don't have usplash installed so it would be superflutious for me to issue that command.
[06:59] <th0rben> ok, want to reboot now...
[06:59] <intelikey> th0rben cause if you use the *buntu (root jr.)  sudo method  and your whois info is true  then when you login as your user you have affectively loged in to irc as root for all practical purposes.
[07:00] <th0rben> intelikey: i accept this as an explanation, but only because i don't understand all of it...
[07:00] <intelikey> that is to say.  if you reviel the name of your admin account (root jr.)  you open the door for attack
[07:01] <intelikey> so let them try to crack the root account.   and let them have fun trying....
[07:01] <intelikey> :)
[07:01] <intelikey> i'm not root. btw.
[07:01] <tristanmike> lol
[07:02] <Dannioni> sure ? :p
[07:02] <ziabice> re all
[07:02] <intelikey> Dannioni i'm not root.   im  "init"
[07:03] <intelikey> or in edgy terms.  im  "upstart"   :)
[07:03] <Sphere> hi again.. managed to get kde under xubuntu but now i cant change the resolution
[07:04] <MotorCityMadMan> !camera
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <Sphere> right click on the desktop - configure desktop......... but there is no option to change resolution... what do i do now?
[07:04] <MotorCityMadMan> !picture
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about picture - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <intelikey> Sphere how are you trying to change the rez.... oh.   it's  in kcontrol     i think
[07:05] <intelikey> in the Kmenu Sphere
[07:06] <Sphere> not thete either
[07:06] <Sphere> was no problem under kubuntu but kde on xubunto .... no option there
[07:08] <Dannioni> Is there any kind of linux Wiki??
[07:08] <CVirus> Dannioni: every distribution has its very own wiki
[07:08] <CVirus> !wiki
[07:08] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[07:08] <Sphere> intelikey: any ide?
[07:08] <CVirus> Dannioni: ^
[07:09] <Dannioni> Aha, then i'll check that one, i'm quite new to linux, so some questions my
[07:09] <Dannioni> *may seem stupid to you :p
[07:09] <intelikey> Sphere it was there when i had 'kde' installed here.....
[07:10] <CVirus> Dannioni: its okay
[07:10] <Dannioni> Thanks!
[07:10] <Sphere> intelikey: yes it was there when i ran pure kubunto too but not with KDE over xubuntu
[07:11] <intelikey> Sphere an alternative would be to adjust the fonts size all up/down-ward to make the thing more like the rez setting you want
[07:11] <intelikey> Sphere but i didn't have kubuntu i had kde   just like you installed it.
[07:11] <intelikey> it is there somewhere.  look again.
[07:12] <intelikey> system > something
[07:12] <michael> For anyone following yesterday, newly installed 6.06 using apt-get install nvidia-glx, then changing xorg.conf to say "nvidia" under drivers works perfect.
[07:12] <intelikey> Sphere also the kmenu is not all visable by default.  you may need to configure the menu first.
[07:12] <Sphere> intelikey: how do i do that?
[07:13] <intelikey> right click on it
[07:13] <gemidjy> http://i12.tinypic.com/3yhzpjo.png why the Local printer checkbox is disabled ?
[07:14] <intelikey> or run kcontrol
[07:14] <intelikey> kcontrol
[07:14] <intelikey> kcontrol
[07:14] <intelikey> kcontrol
[07:14] <intelikey> gemidjy not @ you.
[07:14] <Sphere> seems to be loatds of errors when i typed that in the console
[07:15] <Sphere> oh wrong console..
[07:15] <Sphere> when i type kcontrol now.. the controlpanels opens but still no dispay option
[07:16] <FreeBugs> help, how to fix this? http://tinyurl.com/cx7h8,
[07:17] <intelikey> root@localhost/~# urpmi kde
[07:17] <intelikey> Need to get 445kB/182MB of archives
[07:17] <intelikey> installing.
[07:18] <CVirus> FreeBugs: you are officially a gay
[07:18] <abattoir> !ops
[07:18] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak or Hawkwind
[07:18] <abattoir> FreeBugs seems to be a tor
[07:18] <gnomefreak> abattoir: ?
[07:18] <abattoir> gnomefreak: FreeBugs
[07:18] <imbrandon> yes ?
[07:19] <abattoir> FreeBugs is i=dav@gateway/tor/x-6ef31713bf683734 (vda)
[07:19] <abattoir> and the link is shady
[07:19] <gnomefreak> abattoir: it was a shady link at best im not so sure tor is redirected in here
[07:20] <drbeams> i want to run windows xp in a vmplayer session on my pc.  is this possilble?  is there a *.vmx for windows xp ?
[07:22] <Sanne_> drbeams: you can create yourself a vmx at http://www.easyvmx.com/
[07:23] <kulbir> how to do i extract .deb file?
[07:24] <zorglu_> q. i would like to save the output of my webcam on disk, i got the webcam running, just looking at a software to save it on disk. any suggestion ?
[07:24] <Sanne_> drbeams: you might also want to look at some of those: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=vmware&titlesearch=Titles
[07:25] <drbeams> zorglu_: vlc
[07:25] <zorglu_> drbeams: well i fail to save any video with it. i dunno which encoder is supported. all i tried failed
[07:25] <zorglu_> drbeams: i even asked on #videolan and they didnt answer
[07:26] <zorglu_> drbeams: any suggestion on how can i know the supported encoder by my vlc ?
[07:26] <intelikey> now i'm reminded why i removed kde....
[07:26] <intelikey> oh well!
[07:27] <zorglu_> drbeams: ?
[07:27] <Sanne_> kulbir: right click on deb/extract, or from the cli: ar -x name-of-deb
[07:28] <intelikey> tar ^
[07:28] <zorglu_> so any suggestion on how to save the output of a webcam on disk ?
[07:29] <zorglu_> ok will retry tomorrow :)
[07:30] <intelikey> zorglu_ one could cat the device to a file but that's not what you want.
[07:30] <zorglu_> \indeed :)
[07:31] <zorglu_> in fact i just want to window with my face in it
[07:31] <zorglu_> and a file containing the stuff
[07:31] <zorglu_> very nice tool for blog
[07:31] <zorglu_> oh maybe #kde could help
[07:32] <intelikey> maybe
[07:32] <intelikey> or ##linux
[07:32] <intelikey> or ##linuxhelp
[07:32] <zorglu_> never went there, are they helpfull ?
[07:32] <intelikey> or #ubuntu  even
[07:32] <intelikey> at times very.
[07:33] <intelikey> at times you might walk in to a dogma fight....
[07:33] <zorglu_> oh cool will try then :)
[07:33] <intelikey> if it's really busy just watch for a minute and see what's up
[07:34] <drbeams> zorglu_: sorry, lunch.  lemme check
[07:34] <jpiccolo> how would i update from the command line?
[07:34] <drbeams> zorglu_: ur trying to run live video in a blog window ?
[07:35] <THY733T> Hi,i want to add some scripts to mount/umount network shares on suspend/hibernate.Where do i add the script?I use Kubuntu Dapper
[07:35] <zorglu_> drbeams: well this is the end destination of my stuff. but in practice i just want a simple tool i could launch, and have the webcam stram saved on disk
[07:36] <intelikey> jpiccolo update what ?   the system ?
[07:36] <zorglu_> drbeams: i was using vlc for that before, but i was using xvid+mp3 encoder and they no more work
[07:36] <the_imax> hi can some one paste me a clean source.list?
[07:36] <drbeams> open capture device on "file"
[07:36] <zorglu_> drbeams: so i look for alternative. #videolan being dead or unhelpfull at the moment
[07:36] <jpiccolo> update a ubuntu server
[07:36] <intelikey> jpiccolo "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade "
[07:37] <jpiccolo> ok apt-get dist-upgrade will list the updates available?
[07:37] <zorglu_> drbeams: what do you mean ? in the menu ? if i do 'open capture device' it show me the video but dont save on disk
[07:37] <intelikey> it will ask for confirmation on all the updates at one time.
[07:37] <intelikey> yes listing them
[07:38] <drbeams> zorglu_: stream output to a file
[07:38] <drbeams> you might be interested in a project i have been working on
[07:39] <zorglu_> drbeams: oh ok i found it, thanks
[07:39] <drbeams> i am working at embeding video/chat/and audio in a web page
[07:39] <zorglu_> drbeams: the choise of encoder is 'wrong' tho :) but i got a list of them :)
[07:39] <zorglu_> drbeams: just have to try them all :)
[07:39] <drbeams> hope to post a project to sf soon
[07:40] <zorglu_> cool :)
[07:40] <drbeams> i am looking for devs
[07:40] <jpiccolo> intelikey, thanks
[07:40] <arunkale> for some reason frostwire just wont open for me
[07:40] <intelikey> np
[07:40] <drbeams> iirc mpv4 is the better quality
[07:41] <arunkale> it does the whole loading bouncy ball thingy and then nothing
[07:41] <intelikey> question.  is there a way to passively cat something ?
[07:41] <drbeams> there are some comprehensive tutorials out there explaining the codecs and how they can be used
[07:41] <drbeams> intelikey: pet it
[07:42] <drbeams> intelikey: it will purrrrr
[07:42] <drbeams> :-)
[07:43] <insanekane> intelikey: passively cat ?
[07:43] <amaiko>  hello every body
[07:44] <amaiko> anyOne here have Some Links about python language
[07:44] <insanekane> amaiko: python.org :)
[07:44] <intelikey> drbeams like this.  login tty1 & tty2  then in tty2 do  cat /dev/tty1     and in tty1 what ever you type is put on tty2  but it makes insurection(a hostile takeover) on tty1 leaving it useless.     is there a way to grab the data without taking over
[07:44] <insanekane> amaiko: you installed kubuntu ? if so, it comes with Dive into Python ... look in Help
[07:44] <zorglu_> maouaoua video on linux is such a pain :)
[07:44] <amaiko> thanks
[07:45] <intelikey> insanekane ^
[07:45] <amaiko> i installed ubuntu
[07:45] <amaiko> then i installed KDE
[07:46] <insanekane> amaiko: hmm ... well, look K->Help->Scrollkeeper->Development->Dive into Python
[07:46] <insanekane> intelikey: no idea man
[07:46] <intelikey> k
[07:46] <insanekane> intelikey: maybe you should use a named pipe or something
[07:47] <intelikey> yeah or a vc even
[07:47] <amaiko> okay man Thx
[07:48] <zorglu_> drbeams: ok i tried the mp4 and it passed !!!!
[07:48] <zorglu_> wow i can even read the file with other players
[07:48] <Sanne_> amaiko: I found those two extremely helpful: http://swaroopch.info/text/Byte_of_Python:Main_Page and Python Quick Reference at http://rgruet.free.fr/
[07:49] <insanekane> yes Byte of Python is cool :)
[07:50] <Sanne_> :)
[07:50] <amaiko> is The python easy
[07:50] <insanekane> of course, i didnt need either to learn Python ... just used Guido's tutorial on python.org
[07:50] <insanekane> amaiko: python is dead easy :)
[07:51] <intelikey> konsolekalendar <--kan we get any more k'ish in our konversation ?   :)
[07:51] <amaiko> thank you all
[07:51] <amaiko> u r kind pple :d
[07:51] <intelikey> urqw
[07:51] <amaiko> this is my frist time on this chat
[07:51] <luis_lopez> Hi everyone. Quick question: is swap disabled by default in Edgy?
[07:52] <intelikey> luis_lopez enabled by default
[07:52] <intelikey> on all linux distros i've ever seen
[07:53] <Sanne_> amaiko: you're welcome :)
[07:53] <THY733T> Someone help me?
[07:54] <zorglu_> [00000334]  ffmpeg encoder error: cannot find encoder MPEG Audio layer 1/2/3 <- it is from vlc, any idea on how to fix it ?
[07:56] <zorglu_> !restricted
[07:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:57] <Flarp> zorglu_: did you encode the audio layer as well ?
[07:57] <zorglu_> Flarp: yep i try to do the audio and video
[07:58] <intelikey> drbeams you sure you got the right nick ?
[07:58] <zorglu_> i tried with mp4 but the result is quite crappy
[07:58] <zorglu_> much worst that the one i got with div3+mp3
[07:59] <intelikey> well i'm going to go start a gui.   haven't seen one in a few days....   later chan
[08:01] <phummer> This seems like a really dumb question, but God bless Linux distros that do everything for you...  I'm a Debian user taking Kubuntu for a spin.  I put a typo in my /etc/sudoers on accident (meaning I can't sudo now), and the root password is not my user password.  What is it?
[08:02] <soulrider> err, does anyone know why i cant open a .midi file ?
[08:08] <sts9> Im having serious package issues with amule. is there somewhere I can post a few error mgs
[08:09] <arunkale> anyone for frostwire
[08:10] <Sanne_> sts9: paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:10] <sts9> what can I do about this error message when installing amule? :diversion of /usr/share/man/man1/ed2k.1.gz to /usr/share/man/man1/ed2k.xmule.1.gz by amule' clashes with `diversion of /usr/share/man/man1/ed2k.1.gz to /usr/share/man/man1/ed2k.xmule.1.gz by amule-utils'
[08:17] <holoton2> Any of you folks happen to know how to get QTVR 360 panoramas to work in kubuntu?
[08:28] <holoton2> anybody?
[08:28] <zorglu_> yep me too i want an answer :)
[08:28] <zorglu_> or the solution is a script using gstream via python :)
[08:29] <zorglu_> dont tell me linux is not easy :)
[08:29] <zorglu_> it is ok if you know python and are not afraid to code your own apps :)
[08:30] <zorglu_> or maybe i could find a vlc which work ok on ubuntu
[08:30] <zorglu_> !vlc
[08:30] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:30] <zorglu_> !info vlc
[08:30] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[08:30] <zorglu_> !info vlc plf
[08:31] <zorglu_> lc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats <- they mean 'without mp3' :)
[08:32] <method|> why do fonts in kubuntu suck so bad compared to PCLinuxOS
[08:33] <zorglu_> likely need to tune them
[08:33] <mikko> anyone has probles loging in to msn ?
[08:33] <method|> i have imported the same .fonts.conf from PCLOS and they still suck
[08:33] <method|> the same fonts look totally different
[08:33] <zorglu_> looked very bad before i did tune them
[08:33] <zorglu_> some dpkg reconfigure font
[08:34] <arunkale> methodj: i've got my fonts to render exactly like os x renders them
[08:34] <joscha> mikko: msn is broken...
[08:35] <method|> arunkale: how?
[08:35] <mikko> joscha how is it broken if my friends can log in ?
[08:37] <emonkey-u> does anybody know how i can delete the ext3 journal?
[08:37] <holoton2> mikko: what do you mean by "log into msn"?
[08:38] <holoton2> mikko: chat?
[08:38] <mikko> i mean whole msn service
[08:39] <mikko> here's my log
[08:39] <mikko> kopete (msn): WARNING: [void MSNSocket::slotSocketError(int)]  Error: 17 (remote host closed connection)
[08:39] <mikko> kio (KIOJob): TransferJob::slotRedirection(https://msnia.login.live.com/login2.srf?lc=1033)
[08:39] <mikko> :\
[08:39] <mikko> kopete (msn): WARNING: [void MSNSocket::slotSocketError(int)]  Error: 17 (remote host closed connection)
[08:39] <holoton2> does it work via GAIM?
[08:40] <mikko> nope, it says that ""Your MSN buddy list is temporarily unavailable""
[08:40] <zorglu_> mikko: the hotmail icon is ok from here
[08:40] <zorglu_> well msn has always been flacky
[08:41] <holoton2> mikko: I'm connected to msn right now via Gaim
[08:41] <zorglu_> i always had trouble with msn on gaim or kopete
[08:41] <tictric> hi, who can give me a hand with the current way of dapper to handle network configuration?
[08:41] <tictric> I can't quite get used to stumble over (as I believe) hal on so many places
[08:41] <mikko> i have tried aMsn too but it does same, can get connection
[08:42] <zorglu_> mikko: is this permanent ?
[08:42] <zorglu_> mikko: or just temporary as only today ?
[08:42] <tictric> in /etc/network/interfaces I have configured my eth0 as <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:43] <mikko> worked last night
[08:43] <zorglu_> mikko: wait a bit, it could ismply be the server in your area. all seems ok from where i am
[08:43] <tictric> Still when I type ifconfig it says my ip was <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:44] <zorglu_> tictric: sorry only did basic conf thru kcontrol
[08:44] <zorglu_> auto eth0
[08:44] <zorglu_> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[08:44] <zorglu_> all my interface look like this
[08:45] <zorglu_> do you need static ip ?
[08:45] <tictric> zorglu_: Yes, I need that to keep my network working
[08:45] <zorglu_> have you tried thry kcontrol ?
[08:46] <fredo> ola
[08:46] <fredo> qe tal?
[08:46] <zorglu_> !es
[08:46] <tictric> but fact is that when I do a ping home it replies with my correct <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:47] <tictric> fredo: porque no hablamos espanol aqui
[08:47] <zorglu_> tictric: and 'ip addr' shows which addr ? the one you want ?
[08:48] <tictric> zorglu_: No, it shows that ominous <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:48] <tictric> I just don't know where this is being configured
[08:48] <zorglu_> hmm
[08:49] <zorglu_> ok do "ip addr" and put that in a pastebin
[08:49] <zorglu_> then do "ip route" and to that in another pastbin
[08:52] <intelikey> howto start kde from the console   (not *dm, and not startx)  ?
[08:52] <tictric> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25596/
[08:52] <zorglu_> 09.     inet <IP_ADDRESS>/16 brd <IP_ADDRESS> scope link eth0
[08:52] <zorglu_> 10.     inet <IP_ADDRESS>/16 brd <IP_ADDRESS> scope global eth0
[08:53] <zorglu_> seems ok from here
[08:53] <zorglu_> what make you think you got an issue
[08:53] <intelikey> nobody ?
[08:53] <tictric> zorglu_: where does that 169.blabla IP come from?
[08:53] <zorglu_> intelikey: nope, mine got started automatically :)
[08:53] <Hawkwind> /usr/bin/startkde ?
[08:54] <zorglu_> tictric: it is a automatic  ip allocation in case you got no dhcp or fix address. it is part of zeroconf
[08:54] <intelikey> Hawkwind X is running  and that doesn't take args like  --display :1  does it ?>
[08:54] <zorglu_> inet <IP_ADDRESS>/16 brd <IP_ADDRESS> scope link eth0 <- tictric is mine
[08:54] <Hawkwind> intelikey: You can do startx /usr/bin/startkde -- :2
[08:55] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Not sure if you can leave off the startx part or not
[08:55] <intelikey> k  ty
[08:55] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Seems that starts KDE in the same X session
[08:56] <Hawkwind> I just tried it
[08:56] <intelikey> yeah i got an error
[08:56] <intelikey> Fatal server error:
[08:56] <intelikey> Server is already active for display :1
[08:56] <Hawkwind> Try :2
[08:57] <intelikey> nope doesn't seem to take.
[08:57] <intelikey> giving up.
[08:57] <intelikey> xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
[08:58] <intelikey> probably an suid issue there
[08:58] <intelikey> i need to connect to a running X
[08:58] <kyaneos> hi
[08:59] <intelikey> i think i can edit /usr/bin/startkde   maybe get it to accept the args
[09:00] <intelikey> it's a shell script
[09:00] <koboi> bonjour puis avoir le lien en fr ?
[09:01] <intelikey> !fr
[09:01] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:06] <main2> any questions remaining?
[09:07] <main2> No, good - then all be a happy kubu user.. and smile
[09:07] <frojnd> can someone help me with installing flashplayer
[09:07] <frojnd> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[09:07] <frojnd>        Macromedia Flash Player installer.
[09:07] <frojnd> :S
[09:07] <main2> frojnd: amd64?
[09:07] <frojnd> jep
[09:08] <oheard> !flash
[09:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:08] <frojnd> wel..
[09:08] <frojnd> can I get smth more specific
[09:09] <zorglu_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90106 <- frojnd may be of help
[09:09] <main2> frojnd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:09] <main2> ^^
[09:10] <zorglu_> the bot suggestions are way to broad. how can we add command/tag in it ?
[09:11] <johnsandman> I wanna a own bootsplash screen do someone know where I can get information about it?
[09:12] <zorglu_> !uplash
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <zorglu_> johnsandman: it is something called uplash, google for it
[09:12] <johnsandman> ok I will search for it :-) thanks
[09:13] <trappist> zorglu_: I promise it's really easy to say like /msg ubotu usplash.  you can even leave the query window open and just say 'usplash' there.
[09:14] <zorglu_> trappist: you already told me that yesterday. and i already told you i wont follow your advice as it make it a lot harder to help user
[09:14] <zorglu_> trappist: if you wanna discuss it, we can
[09:14] <trappist> zorglu_: I'm telling you it doesn't make it harder.  it does make it a little harder when the screen is full of ubotu saying "I don't know"
[09:15] <zorglu_> trappist: well i can easily proove the opposite, if you are willing to discuss it
[09:16] <trappist> zorglu_: /query ubotu.  then in that window, just say like "mp3" or something.  you can leave it open and ask him all you want, just as easily as saying !mp3 here.
[09:16] <zorglu_> trappist: you mean you are willing discuss it ?
[09:16] <zorglu_> trappist: ok lets go
[09:16] <trappist> zorglu_: I thought that's what we were doing.
[09:16] <xubuntu> is someone here to help me?
[09:17] <BonBonTheJon> what do you need help with
[09:17] <zorglu_> trappist: ok what you propose double the work. so it make it harder
[09:17] <zorglu_> trappist: it is my argument
[09:17] <xubuntu> I need help with konsole
[09:17] <trappist> say you get 3 tries wrong before getting it right.  that's 8 lines of scroll, which is 1/3 of my screen, which gets pretty noisy.
[09:17] <xubuntu> How can I browse to another folders with konsole?
[09:17] <zorglu_> trappist: can you explain how making the work 2 longer wont make it harder to help user ?
[09:18] <cpk2> xubuntu: cd /dir/dir/dir
[09:18] <trappist> zorglu_: and my argument is that it's no harder to switch windows and say "foo" than it is to say !foo... or not significantly harder, and certainly not twice as hard
[09:18] <xubuntu> thank you CPK2
[09:18] <zorglu_> trappist: i dont get it. so you say that making twice more work, dont make it harder to help user ?
[09:19] <trappist> zorglu_: it *does* make it harder for others to help the same person, because if I keep saying !try1 !try2 !try3 pretty soon his question isn't even on my screen anymore
[09:19] <trappist> zorglu_: you're not listening.  it's not twice the work.
[09:19] <zorglu_> trappist: i am listening
[09:19] <cpk2> trappist: how often does zorglu_ get it wrong when its someone asking how to get mp3's to work? I suppose !foo > randomuser might be better
[09:19] <cpk2> but maybe other people will see the link and read it
[09:20] <zorglu_> trappist: you said 'before using ubotu, test the command via private message'
[09:20] <cpk2> if it is across the whole channel
[09:20] <zorglu_> trappist: did i misundertood you ?
[09:20] <trappist> cpk2: what we're talking about is when you don't know whether what you're searching for is in the db.  I'm suggesting looking for it in pmsg before making lots of noice in the channel.
[09:21] <trappist> zorglu_: close, but not quite - when you don't know for sure that ubotu knows what you're talking about, and you might have to try 3 or 4 things before getting it right or giving up, do THAT in pmsg, and when you get it right, THEN say !whatever
[09:21] <cpk2> the bot is always going to make noise, I mean theres a !botsnack for goodness sakes
[09:21] <zorglu_> trappist: ok well i never know if the command will be there
[09:21] <trappist> !trythis
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trythis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <trappist> !trythat
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trythat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <trappist> !tryagain
[09:21] <trappist> !tryanother
[09:21] <zorglu_> trappist: sorry if i dont remember all the commands
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tryagain - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tryanother - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <trappist> that's just noise, and it adds up quickly
[09:21] <zorglu_> trappist: so i try the command
[09:22] <zorglu_> trappist: you seems to think it is not a good idea
[09:22] <zorglu_> trappist: you suggest me to test privatly which increase a lot my work to help people
[09:22] <trappist> zorglu_: come on man.  I'm not asking a lot.  if you don't know, it's *polite* to try it out first before making a lot of unnecessary noise in the channel.
[09:22] <zorglu_> trappist: i am very polite on the channel
[09:23] <zorglu_> trappist: and 'come on man', i dont get your point
[09:23] <trappist> zorglu_: there's being polite to other people, and there's having good "netiquette", which includes trying not to cause unnecessary scroll in the channel.
[09:23] <trappist> it's similar
[09:23] <trappist> to doing
[09:23] <trappist> like
[09:23] <trappist> this
[09:23] <zorglu_> trappist: well i do have a good netiquete and i dont appreciate your suggesting otherwise
[09:24] <zorglu_> trappist: or come with proof or log or anything
[09:24] <trappist> zorglu_: I'm not suggesting you're trying to be rude.  but there are hundreds of users in the channel, and it's polite to try to avoid showing them all a lot of unnecessary noise.
[09:24] <arcasa> NOISE!
[09:24] <arcasa> FOR A PARTY?
[09:25] <zorglu_> trappist: please stop suggesting im impolite without coming with proof
[09:25] <zorglu_> trappist: ok we disagree. what do we do ?
[09:25] <arcasa> EVERYBODY WAS KUNG FU FIIIIIIGHTTIIIIIIIINNNNNGGGGGGGG!
[09:25] <zorglu_> trappist: the code of conduct say 'we ask other people'
[09:25] <arcasa> We stip naked and play How Low Can You Go.
[09:25] <zorglu_> trappist: any suggestion ?
[09:25] <cpk2> you need to come up with something so that no one is happy
[09:25] <armando> Hi all.....
[09:25] <trappist> zorglu_: good call
[09:25] <cpk2> thats called compromise
[09:25] <armando> Someone can help me?
[09:25] <arcasa> How Low Can You Go?
[09:26] <arcasa> I broke 6 vertebrae last time. . .
[09:26] <zorglu_> trappist: the code of conduct say to be polite too :) so lets avoid insult each other, ok ?
[09:26] <arcasa> STFU N00BS?!
[09:26] <cpk2> armando: not until you describe your problem
[09:26] <arcasa> Is that polite?
[09:26] <trappist> zorglu_: on the other hand, I'm not suggesting it should be a rule, and I'm not suggesting it's rude.  I'm saying it would be better, and a polite gesture, to take the very small extra effort to cut down on the noise in the channel.
[09:27] <armando> i need to install some codec like Divx and MP3....
[09:27] <arcasa> Can anyone help with Sexual Frustration?
[09:27] <armando> but I'm experiencing some problem...
[09:27] <zorglu_> trappist: yep it is your opinion and i stated today and yesterday i disagree
[09:27] <zorglu_> trappist: and honnestly i dont get why you go so hard on this
[09:27] <segfault> armando, this is well documented on the ubuntu site under restricted formats
[09:27] <trappist> zorglu_: what part do you disagree with
[09:27] <arcasa> I'm on zorglu's side in this one. (He has a nicer arse.)
[09:27] <armando> ok... i will see
[09:27] <armando> tnx a lot
[09:27] <segfault> np
[09:28] <zorglu_> trappist: your suggestion doubles my work to help people, it make it harder to help them, so i disagree
[09:28] <trappist> disagree with what
[09:28] <arcasa> I OBJECT!
[09:28] <zorglu_> as i said we disagree
[09:28] <arcasa> *Wiggles finger*
[09:28] <trappist> ... about what?
[09:29] <trappist> zorglu_: you're choosing not to follow my suggestion, which is fine.  but what do you disagree with?
[09:29] <zorglu_> trappist: i dont want to follow your suggestion, you want me to, this is a disagreement
[09:29] <arcasa> I OBJECT!
[09:29] <zorglu_> trappist: ok so it is fine :)
[09:29] <arcasa> *Wiggles finger*
[09:29] <arcasa> OBJECTION! *Wiggles finger*
[09:30] <zorglu_> ok now about this bot, is there a way to add tag/command in it ?
[09:30] <arcasa> Yes.
[09:30] <arcasa> Ask nicely.
[09:30] <arcasa> With Grammar AND Spelling.
[09:31] <trappist> zorglu_: you can make a suggestion, and the ops will discuss it and maybe implement it
[09:31] <arcasa> I suggest Kopete is rebuilt from the ground up.
[09:31] <trappist> zorglu_: like, !usplash is some kind of thing.  see http://somesite.com/usplash
[09:31] <zorglu_> trappist: oh it is the ops which control the content of the bo ?
[09:31] <zorglu_> t
[09:31] <trappist> yes
[09:31] <Hawkwind> trappist: zorglu_: Mind taking this discussion somewhere like -OffTopic please
[09:31] <trappist> Hawkwind: we're finished
[09:32] <trappist> and yeah, sorry
[09:32] <Hawkwind> zorglu_: Yes, most of us who are ops have access to change bot entries as well
[09:32] <zorglu_> Hawkwind: well this make the process to add stuff quite long :)
[09:32] <Hawkwind> zorglu_: Not really
[09:32] <zorglu_> is there a description somewhere of the policy applied for the keyword in the bot ?
[09:33] <Hawkwind> zorglu_: You can add your fact, and it gets put into the ops channel so all of us see it, then we can approve it and add it if we find it helpful or good enough
[09:33] <arcasa> Can I be a ops?
[09:33] <Hawkwind> zorglu_: You can also pm me at any time with whatever and when I see it, I'll let you know one way or the other if I add it
[09:33] <Hawkwind> !ubuto
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <Hawkwind> Heh
[09:34] <Hawkwind> !bot > zorglu_
[09:34] <arcasa> !bot > kiss ma ass!
[09:34] <zorglu_> i mean something i could read before going thru the process of persuading the ops of its 'goodness'
[09:34] <zorglu_> ok reading it
[09:34] <Hawkwind> zorglu_: I'm here all the time so feel free to pm me anything you want added
[09:34] <Hawkwind> arcasa: Please don't play with the bot :)
[09:34] <arcasa> [20:34]  <ubotu> Error: That person could not be found in any channel you're in
[09:34] <arcasa> [20:34]  <arcasa> HI!
[09:34] <arcasa> [20:34]  <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about HI! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <arcasa> [20:34]  <arcasa> Boobs!
[09:34] <arcasa> [20:35]  <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Boobs! - try searching on http://bots
[09:35] <arcasa> He knows nothing anyway.
[09:35] <Hawkwind> arcasa: Please, no need to paste like that to channel.  Use pastebin please the next time
[09:36] <arcasa> How do I change my name?
[09:36] <arcasa> !Hawkwind how do I change my name?
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Hawkwind how do I change my name? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <Hawkwind> arcasa: /nick new-nick-here
[09:37] <Arcasa> Awesome!
[09:37] <shmlar> question: anyone familiar w/ setting up postfix?
[09:37] <Arcasa> Capital letters make my day!
[09:37] <shmlar> poooostfix anyoneeeee?
[09:38] <trappist> shmlar: you might have better luck with something like this: I was trying to set up postfix, and when I did X, Y happened.  what went wrong?
[09:38] <shmlar> lol. how about.. we have postfix set up, but are having problems recieving mail from Outlook on an XP box..
[09:39] <danbuntu> how do I enable compoisting on the nvidia driver? I'm trying to gewt beryl to work
[09:40] <Hawkwind> danbuntu: Might talk to the guys in #Ubuntu-XGL as they are experts
[09:40] <danbuntu> ah cool I'll give them a go
[09:40] <intelikey> kdeinit: Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set.
[09:40] <intelikey> Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory
[09:40] <Arcasa> How do I update my KDE version?
[09:41] <intelikey> can i manually export that veriable ?
[09:41] <johannes> Hello: Q: Does someone know how to install and configure "Kontact". I can't find Kmail, Kadressbook and so on in it...
[09:41] <intelikey> something like export DISPLAY="0:0"    ???
[09:42] <frojnd> can someone help me with installing firefox32 at the point (5) when I try to Create the execution files for 32 bit firefox it says: bash: gksudo: command not found. Can someone help me with that?
[09:42] <frojnd> link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:43] <zorglu_> frojnd: "gksudo gedit /usr/local/bin/firefox32" should be replaced by "kdesu kate /usr/local/bin/firefox32"
[09:43] <zorglu_> frojnd: it is ubuntu tutoral and kubuntu has a bit different apps installed
[09:43] <frojnd> aha
[09:43] <trappist> shift: receiving mail *from* outlook, like outlook is sending the mail?  and it doesn't arrive?
[09:44] <intelikey> is it safe to do something like    export DISPLAY="0:0"    or would that even be proper syntax ?    maybe   export DISPLAY="-:0"   ?  anyone
[09:45] <trappist> intelikey: export DISPLAY=:0
[09:45] <trappist> intelikey: or :0
[09:46] <intelikey> trappist that doesn't comprimize the tty ?
[09:46] <trappist> intelikey: no, just tells what display to send gui goodness to
[09:47] <intelikey> trappist ty
[09:47] <trappist> intelikey: like, if I ssh to your box and set DISPLAY=:0 you'll see any gui apps I run from the console
[09:47] <trappist> and if I don't set DISPLAY (and ssh is configured to act like this, as it is by default) I'll see them, but they'll be running on your box.
[09:48] <danbuntu> arcasa - goto the kubuntu website and follow the instructions in order to update kde - it involes adding a repo and then doing an upgrade
[09:48] <frojnd> ok how can I install firefox 32bit on kubuntu
[09:48] <frojnd> (I have amd64)
[09:49] <frojnd> and this tutorial is for ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:49] <zorglu_> frojnd: which part doesnt work ?
[09:49] <trappist> frojnd: since I also have to worry about mplayer, wine, etc. I just set up a 32bit chroot and install regular 32bit packages in there
[09:49] <frojnd> gksudo gedit /etc/pango32/pangorc &
[09:49] <zorglu_> "gksudo gedit" should be replaced by "kdesu kate"
[09:49] <ubuntu__> mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab, any idea what to do, im booting from kubuntu live cd
[09:49] <zorglu_> the same as the previous one :)
[09:50] <zorglu_> frojnd: it means "launch a text editor as admin/root"
[09:50] <frojnd> I see
[09:52] <frojnd> zorglu, I don't get the part when it says at this line to file. There are some links...
[09:53] <frojnd> do I have to add html code ? :shy:
[09:53] <casper__> hi... has anyone had success with installing Xgl/Compiz on Kubuntu 6.10/ATI ?
[09:53] <zorglu_> frojnd: ? which html code are your talking about
[09:53] <Hawkwind> casper__: I think several have.  Have you talked to the experts in #Ubuntu-XGL yet by chance ?
[09:53] <frojnd> zorglu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava (part 5)
[09:54] <frojnd> when I have to add text to file.
[09:54] <casper__> Hawkwind: no I havnt... what server is that room on?
[09:54] <Hawkwind> casper__: This network of course.  Just type:  /join #Ubuntu-XGL
[09:55] <zorglu_> frojnd: no, you simply put the text in the text file... the editor should be open via the 'kdesu kate'
[09:56] <brydenn> hmm i have an Adept Manager problem guys
[09:56] <matadio> Hey
[09:56] <brydenn> i just installed Edgy Etf Beta and tried to update the system in Adept Manager
[09:57] <brydenn> and it closed on me for some reason and every time i re-open it it says the process is still running and is in READ ONLY mode
[09:57] <brydenn> how do i fix that?
[09:57] <matadio> Does Kubuntu support multiple processors, and if it does will it run with four of them?
[09:57] <_ShoGo_> hi, could anyone give me a howto for compiz and xgl with ati?
[09:58] <zorglu_> brydenn: there is likely a lock remaining from the crash. you could reboot, or remove it by hand (harder and more dangerous)
[09:58] <fdoving> matadio: yes. would run very good with four.
[09:58] <matadio> Awesome
[09:58] <frojnd> zorglu: Create a new file for gdk-pixbuf.loaders  How can I do that
[09:58] <zorglu_> matadio: yes, would have to install server kenerl to take advange of them thos
[09:58] <brydenn> zorglu_:  i've done 2 reboots. it's still there
[09:58] <fdoving> !adept crash fix > brydenn
[09:59] <matadio> Thanks
[09:59] <intelikey> thanks guys.
[10:01] <brydenn> fdoving: what exactly does that command do?
[10:01] <Blacken> I have an ATI Radeon x1300 and am running the ATI proprietary drivers. How do I "enable direct rendering," as Boson requires?
[10:02] <fdoving> brydenn: finds the process locking the database (what makes the adept you start read-only), and ask you if you want to kill it or not.
[10:02] <brydenn> hmm
[10:02] <brydenn> cuz i just pressed Y and it's doing all this stuff in the Konsole
[10:02] <brydenn> haha hope its working ;)
[10:03] <brydenn> sweet. it worked. thanks fdoving
[10:03] <fdoving> brydenn: ah.. yes, the second part 'dpkg --configure -a' will configure all unpacked and unconfigured packages. too.
[10:03] <matadio> Does Kubuntu come with WINE?
[10:03] <brydenn> so basically it goes back through and finishes the process you were trying to do before the crash?
[10:04] <tomaz> matadio: no, not comes with
[10:04] <tomaz> but ya can install very easily
[10:04] <Arcasa> Boobs.
[10:04] <Arcasa> Nipples.
[10:04] <Arcasa> Tits.
[10:04] <frojnd> :D
[10:04] <Arcasa> Arse.
[10:04] <Arcasa> Vagina.
[10:05] <Arcasa> Take your pick.
[10:05] <matadio> Okay.
[10:05] <zorglu_> Arcasa: please avoid this kind of language here
[10:05] <Arcasa> I'm just trying to liven the place up!
[10:05] <trappist> Arcasa: kindly refrain.
[10:06] <Arcasa> Knock knock.
[10:06] <matadio> So just for my reference, it's Ubuntu with KDE instead of Gnome?
[10:06] <Arcasa> - Who's there?
[10:06] <bLaZeD> matadio, yes
[10:06] <Arcasa> Boo.
[10:06] <matadio> Awesome
[10:06] <Arcasa> -Boo who?
[10:06] <matadio> Thanks guy's
[10:06] <Arcasa> Don't cry. It's only a joke!
[10:06] <matadio> Arcasa: Please stop.
[10:06] <bLaZeD> matadio, u where asking about kubuntu correct...
[10:06] <matadio> Yes.
[10:06] <bLaZeD> then yes
[10:06] <trappist> !ops
[10:06] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak or Hawkwind
[10:06] <bLaZeD> =D
[10:07] <Arcasa> Britain.
[10:07] <gnomefreak> ty Hawkwind
[10:07] <matadio> I've used Ubuntu, but I am getting a nice server with 4 processors, but I like KDE and was wondering if it was the same as Ubuntu minus the GUI
[10:07] <matadio> I was pretty sure it was.
[10:07] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: no problem.  Had my head in another channel :)
[10:10] <naragol> hola
[10:10] <naragol> de que va esto?
[10:11] <naragol> como funciona?
[10:11] <zorglu_> !es
[10:11] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:11] <naragol> ok, muchas gracias
[10:11] <zorglu_> np
[10:11] <naragol> thank you, i wanted saing ;)
[10:11] <cpk2> matadio: if you dont want a gui you can just install from an alternate cd
[10:11] <naragol> bye
[10:12] <matadio> I know
[10:12] <matadio> However, I'd rather just not have to do it if I can avoid it
[10:13] <cpk2> also if you want wine the main dapper repo doesnt have a very new package for wine but i think the wiki gives you a repo that is updated regularly, or the wine page gives you the repo
[10:19] <arcasa_> MUAHAHAHAHA
[10:19] <arcasa_> BATMAN
[10:19] <arcasa_> BATMAN
[10:20] <Hawkwind> arcasa_: I assume you don't plan on stopping do you
[10:20] <arcasa_> I just did.
[10:27] <tomaz> !pt
[10:28] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[10:28] <tomaz> this is a female bot o.o
[10:28] <cpk2> lol
[10:29] <cpk2> so is it bad if i try to bring up my wireless card that lspci lists as "Unknown device 0301"
[10:30] <trappist> cpk2: I *think* that just means the device id isn't in the database
[10:30] <cpk2> i think last time i tried to bring it up the whole system got angry
[10:30] <trappist> cpk2: which could be bad, as some drivers specifically look for a list of device ids that they support
[10:32] <cpk2> ok now i know my system didnt like it because first google result had some guy with same problem (after bringing it up cant sudo and root programs dont work)
[10:32] <fdoving> cpk2: you can update the pciids with the 'update-pccids' script.
[10:33] <cpk2> fdoving: great now it knows the toplevel name but i still have this "Subsystem: RaLink: Unknown device 2561" is that a problem?
[10:34] <cpk2> and is it safe to try to bring up now?
[10:34] <fdoving> cpk2: sure.
[10:37] <cpk2> hrmm lspci says the card is ra0 but ifup says its an unknown interface
[10:38] <_arne_> wich of the kubuntu rooms are in swedish?
[10:39] <Skrot> !se
[10:39] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[10:39] <buzzy0> how can i change my boot loader in kubuntu? can t find where to click!!1
[10:39] <buzzy0> :$
[10:39] <MotorCityMadMan> running kubuntu dapper is adept or synaptic recommended ?
[10:40] <cpk2> well kubuntu comes with adept
[10:41] <MotorCityMadMan> cpk2: yes but is synaptic recommended over adept ?
[10:41] <cpk2> they both do the same job
[10:41] <Hawkwind> MotorCityMadMan: It's all about personal choice really
[10:41] <cpk2> personally i use apt-get
[10:41] <Hawkwind> MotorCityMadMan: Some like adept, some like aptitude, synaptic, some of us just use apt-get from CLI
[10:42] <MotorCityMadMan> i like the apt-get me self. i like looking at those words in the shell
[10:43] <oomph_7> MotorCityMadMan: my advice wold be to learn apt-get the commands are pretty simple once you get into the habbit
[10:44] <buzzy0> how can i change my boot loader in kubuntu? can t find where to click!!1
[10:44] <buzzy0> how can i change my boot loader in kubuntu? can t find where to click!!1
[10:44] <buzzy0> how can i change my boot loader in kubuntu? can t find where to click!!1
[10:44] <buzzy0> how can i change my boot loader in kubuntu? can t find where to click!!1
[10:44] <buzzy0> pleaseeeeeeeeee
[10:44] <MotorCityMadMan> buzzy0: did look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:44] <buzzy0> maybe i havent installed it?
[10:44] <menace> !lock
[10:45] <Skrot> Jesus christ, buzzy0.. what do you want to change about your bootloader?
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <menace> whats the command to unlock adept?
[10:45] <buzzy0> people where can i edit my boot loader infos?
[10:45] <MotorCityMadMan> menace: sudo
[10:45] <menace> no not that.
[10:45] <menace> hang on ill show you the error
[10:46] <mikko> menace what you want to do ?
[10:46] <Skrot> buzzy0: By default, Kubuntu uses Grub. The Grub config file is located in /boot/grub/menu.lst -- you should edit that as sudo, since your regular user probably don't have the proper access
[10:46] <trappist> !adept crash fix
[10:46] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:46] <MotorCityMadMan> buzzy0: sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst from shell
[10:46] <menace> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[10:46] <cpk2> lol this companies "documentation" for using their wireless pci card is an html page of hexeditor or whatever
[10:46] <menace> thats my error
[10:46] <trappist> menace: ^
[10:46] <menace> kk ty
[10:46] <buzzy0> Skrot:  tnx but i 'd like to do i t graphically
[10:46] <buzzy0> is there any interface? Skrot ?
[10:47] <jatos> kill any other package managers you hae open
[10:47] <Skrot> buzzy0: No, there hasn't been made any GUI for editing grub as far as I know. You can edit the textfile in a graphical texteditor though
[10:47] <buzzy0> ok
[10:47] <buzzy0> is there a config panel in kubuntu?
[10:47] <buzzy0> Skrot: ?
[10:47] <jpiccolo> does linux eventually purge out ram that its not using?
[10:48] <jatos> no Buzzy0
[10:48] <Skrot> buzzy0: Not for editing grub, no. But if you want to edit it, go to The K Menu -> Run -> Konsole. When you're in Konsole, type "sudo kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst" and enter your password.
[10:48] <jatos> hes gone
[10:48] <Skrot> yeah
[10:48] <Skrot> hehe
[10:48] <MotorCityMadMan> Uptime: 1 days, 12 hours and 46 minutes
[10:48] <jatos> mind I pm skrot?
[10:49] <unix_infidel> jpiccolo: linux memory management is a bit more complex than windows memory management where you can use apps to "purge" memory.
[10:49] <Skrot> MotorCityMadMan: Are you using konversation?
[10:49] <Skrot> jatos: What's it about? I'm not logged in so I can't answer on privmsg's
[10:49] <Dr_willis> linux thinking.. when in doubt use memory to cache the drive.. release it as needed
[10:49] <jatos> just a question I rather not ask in public...
[10:49] <Skrot> Two secs.
[10:50] <MotorCityMadMan> Skrot: yes and you ?
[10:50] <Acidic31> how do i get my Sony CyberShot DSC-T10 to work in KDE
[10:50] <Acidic31> works fine in Gnome
[10:50] <Maneit> There, jatos
[10:50] <Maneit> MotorCityMadMan: Yes. But you where using /uptime, right? I made that script \o/
[10:50] <jpiccolo> unix_infidel, ok i was just wondering be cause i am messing with samba between 2 linux boxes, and the server box was at very low ram usage untill i started a large file transfer, then the ram went up. but i have since stopped the transfer and the ram usage is still high, is that ok?
[10:50] <MotorCityMadMan> Maneit: thank you
[10:51] <sorush20> what is the ubuntu kernel version in the alternet iso?
[10:51] <unix_infidel> jpiccolo: yupp, i've never doubted linux memory management unless i've got some symptoms that i have to deal with.
[10:51] <Maneit> MotorCityMadMan: hehe, no problem. I made it 5 years ago or something, you're the first one I've ever seen using it besides me
[10:51] <draik> Maneit, thanks for that script. Works wonders when fiance tells me to be quick on the desktop late at night
[10:51] <unix_infidel> and the root of those symptoms are usually not the kernel itself but the app.
[10:51] <MotorCityMadMan> Sysinfo for 'Kubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-27-386 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: AMDAthlon643400+ at 1004 MHz (2011 bogomips), , RAM: 494/503MB, 121 proc's, 1.12d up
[10:52] <mikko> Sysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-27-k7 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2600+ at 2079 MHz (4163 bogomips), , RAM: 637/1010MB, 97 proc's, 5.6h up
[10:52] <sorush20> !kernel
[10:52] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:52] <jpiccolo> unix_infidel, ok yeah i figured it would be ok, i am messing around figuring out what i am going to need for a NAS box
[10:52] <MotorCityMadMan> damn i need more RAM
[10:52] <unix_infidel> everyone needs more RAM.
[10:52] <draik> I wish I can use more RAM
[10:52] <draik> I need more HDD space
[10:52] <MotorCityMadMan> 200HDD here
[10:53] <draik> 500HDD
[10:53] <draik> well, 580HDD
[10:53] <MotorCityMadMan> you the man
[10:53] <draik> 250 + 250 + 80
[10:53] <fdoving> hint #kubuntu-offtopic hint.
[10:53] <draik> hardly
[10:53] <Maneit> 1260HDD :(
[10:53] <mikko> :s
[10:53] <Maneit> I win
[10:53] <draik> sorry fdoving
[10:53] <draik> Maneit, how many HDDs?
[10:54] <Maneit> 4*250, 2x120
[10:54] <jpiccolo> ubuntu and kubuntu server install are exactly the same right?
[10:54] <Maneit> Way to be consistant with */x there.. hehe
[10:54] <draik> I'm in offtopic now
[10:54] <Dr_willis> thats almost enough for my porn.. err.. vacation videos...
[10:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:54] <Maneit> haha
[10:54] <draik> lol
[10:54] <Dr_willis> its for research!
[10:54] <draik> of course
[10:54] <fdoving> jpiccolo: there is no,  kubuntu-server, is there?
[10:54] <draik> when isn't it?
[10:54] <Dr_willis> Im working for Mr. Foley!
[10:54] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis:
[10:54] <unix_infidel> ?
[10:55] <draik> Mr. Foley, why does that sound familiar?
[10:55] <Maneit> Dr_willis: Guess you're a gynecologist then
[10:55] <Dr_willis> and Bill Clinton. :)
[10:55] <draik> lol
[10:55] <Dr_willis> draik,  hes all over the Drive By MEdia at the moment.
[10:55] <jpiccolo> fdoving, i have a disc that is
[10:55] <Dr_willis> "explisit 'instant messanges' to pages, and other young kids... supposubly'
[10:55] <jpiccolo> fdoving, kubuntu non-live cd
[10:56] <fdoving> jpiccolo: ah, the alternate cd?
[10:56] <jpiccolo> fdoving, yeah
[10:56] <fdoving> jpiccolo: that's not the server cd, however you can install a minimal system from it.
[10:56] <jpiccolo> i am guessing that the install would be the same
[10:56] <jpiccolo> oh really
[10:56] <jpiccolo> it says server install in the menu
[10:57] <draik> Is there a diff between Kubuntu CD and Kubuntu DVD?
[10:57] <draik> other than the obvious CD and DVD
[10:57] <fdoving> draik: more packages on the dvd.
[10:57] <fdoving> jpiccolo: ok, then i think there is a difference.. but i'm not sure.
[10:58] <draik> fdoving, nothing more than packages?
[10:58] <jpiccolo> ok, so if i want smallest running system go with the ubuntu server install
[10:58] <fdoving> draik: not that i'm aware of, what would you expect? free music and movies? :)
[10:58] <draik> lol
[10:58] <draik> no
[10:59] <sorush20> anyone here image their boot partition?
[10:59] <sorush20> auto image..
[10:59] <fdoving> jpiccolo: the packages will probably be the same.. but with the server install cd, you'll get more 'server packages' on the cd, with the kubuntu alternate cd, you can install the same packages, but you'll have to download them from the repositories over itnernet.
[10:59] <fdoving> sorush20: i use partimage once a week.
[11:00] <sorush20> fdoving: partimage it is then great..
[11:00] <jpiccolo> fdoving, ok so the running process's should be the same
[11:01] <fdoving> jpiccolo: as far as i know, yes.
[11:01] <draik> fdoving, I'm not sure what I was expecting, to be honest.  I was thinking there'd be more to it like a better or higher (?) kernel or KDE or something.
[11:01] <cpk2> if i need to install a driver for a pci device I can just use a module correct?
[11:01] <cpk2> install a driver from source*
[11:01] <fdoving> draik: no, just more software on the disc, so you won't need to download everything from the internet when installiing from adept/apt.
[11:01] <sorush20> is partimage.org down?
[11:02] <draik> I have fallen in love with apt-get
[11:02] <fdoving> cpk2: working on the wifi stuff? try 'apt-cache search ralink'
[11:02] <draik> How do you author a CD/DVD?
[11:02] <draik> I heard about making your own CD/DVD from your current installs
[11:03] <fdoving> sorush20: works for me.. partimage.org that is.
[11:03] <draik> Am I outdated/wrong/misinformed/???
[11:03] <cpk2> fdoving: unfortunatly those 2 arent my card =( but i got the source from the chip maker
[11:04] <fdoving> draik: this might be usefull for you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06
[11:04] <fdoving> cpk2: ah.. ok.
[11:06] <cpk2> fdoving: I just dont really want to have to rebuild my kernel
[11:06] <fdoving> cpk2: no, you only need to build the module.
[11:10] <draik> fdoving, that was exactly what I was looking for, thank you
[11:16] <BonBonTheJon> bye!
[11:16] <BonBonTheJon> also duie
[11:19] <ypsila> good evening
[11:21] <ypsila> anybody in here?
[11:24] <[GuS] > people, some knows an app. to take snapshots (or record) from a webcam and upload to ftp? (other than camstream)
[11:26] <amaiko> press print screen
[11:26] <ypsila> [gijoe] :
[11:26] <octan> [GuS]  xawtv
[11:26] <ypsila> [GuS] : sorry; I do not know much about it
[11:26] <[GuS] > ok
[11:26] <[GuS] > amaiko, is not what i mean..........
[11:28] <[GuS] > maybe webcamd will do the job
[11:28] <[GuS] > with camstream i have problems to enable 2 webcam, same model
[11:28] <ypsila> [GuS] :  I'm just a kubuntu beginner, but we used to save webcam as jpg and then ftp, but I guess thats not wha you want to achieve
[11:28] <[GuS] > no
[11:28] <[GuS] > i need something like camstream indeed
[11:29] <ypsila> a permanent upstream?
[11:29] <octan> GuS motion
[11:29] <[GuS] > yes
[11:29] <[GuS] > octan, ?
[11:29] <octan> it takes a snap every time something moves
[11:29] <ypsila> sorry if my questions seem ridicoulus to you, I try to understand
[11:29] <[GuS] > mm
[11:29] <[GuS] > let me check
[11:29] <octan> its called motion
[11:30] <ypsila> octan:  I got that feature on my logitec, but never had the intention to put it to the weg
[11:30] <ypsila> b
[11:30] <[GuS] > only on motion octan ?
[11:30] <[GuS] > i need to take snap every X seconds
[11:30] <[GuS] > not every motion
[11:30] <octan> GuS check it out... make it has some otions like that too
[11:31] <[GuS] > ok
[11:31] <[GuS] > thanks
[11:31] <[GuS] > yango, http://www.gdnet.com.ar/modules/webcam/ is what i am configuring
[11:31] <[GuS] > that usign camstream
[11:32] <[GuS] > mm nice, motion is on repositories
[11:32] <[GuS] > is GUI or console app octan ?
[11:32] <octan> cli
[11:32] <hussam> I noticed this. http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/pool-edgy , Does this mean that edgy will have kde 3.5.5?
[11:32] <[GuS] > Ok
[11:33] <[GuS] > thanks for the info octan  ;)
[11:33] <octan> np
[11:34] <octan> [GuS] , its perfect for web use.. cos thers no reason recording when something is not happening,, right,,so  you only want to record something thats moving
[11:34] <judith_> how can I make VLC handle yahoo video?
[11:34] <[GuS] > ok, i know
[11:34] <[GuS] > just i want to take snap every 10 s.
[11:35] <octan> [GuS] , yes motion can do that,, it can snap every 10 sec as long as there is motion :)
[11:35] <ypsila> but not without
[11:36] <hussam> Hi Riddell, will these kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/pool-edgy be uploaded to edgy?
[11:36] <ypsila> [GuS] :  with an ordinary camera this should work
[11:36] <octan> why you wanna record a still pic?
[11:37] <[GuS] > ?
[11:37] <ypsila> octan: why not? we did that to see the moon "walk"
[11:37] <steveire> Hey, I was trying to install something from source and I got this error: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[11:37] <[GuS] > octan, i think thats is for me... if i want to record still pics.. right? :)
[11:37] <steveire> Any idea what I should do about that?
[11:38] <judith_> steveire: install the build-essential package
[11:38] <ypsila> steveire: repositories?
[11:38] <judith_> steveire: install the build-essential package and anything like "xlibs*"
[11:39] <steveire> judith_: I've got it already. I'll look for the libs
[11:39] <Sanne_> steveire: you probably need the X development packages, maybe xlibs-dev
[11:41] <judith_> how can I make VLC handle yahoo video? Right now, Totem is the default and it cannot handle the stuff!
[11:41] <steveire> Hmm, Sanne_, that package wants to install a lot of other stuff...
[11:41] <steveire> I'll go for it anyway
[11:42] <Sanne_> steveire: yes, this is a meta package
[11:42] <steveire> What's VLC?
[11:42] <Sanne_> steveire: maybe you only need some of those dependencies
[11:42] <[GuS] > mmm
[11:42] <[GuS] > i jave same problem
[11:42] <steveire> Sanne_: Right, but the meta-package is catch-all
[11:42] <[GuS] > seems having two same webcams... just can use one :(
[11:42] <[GuS] > (same model)
[11:43] <ypsila> [GuS] : so one gets priority?
[11:43] <Sanne_> steveire: maybe try with libx11-dev first, also look here for descriptions of all those dev packages: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/oldlibs/xlibs-dev
[11:43] <[GuS] > yes.. one or another
[11:43] <[GuS] > i can use boths
[11:43] <[GuS] > cant*
[11:43] <Bandwidth> hey peoples
[11:44] <ypsila> [GuS] :  seems logical
[11:44] <ypsila> hallo Bandwidth
[11:44] <[GuS] > why?
[11:44] <islam_> http://download.al-islaam.com/audiovideo/anasheedram/al-islaam/html/samtan/lastbreath.swf
[11:44] <[GuS] > are in diff. usb ports.-..
[11:44] <steveire> I've already installed the meta package, I'm getting the same situation now with Qt though.
[11:44] <ypsila> [GuS] : conlfict? which is first and which is second?
[11:44] <[GuS] > i will test iwth 2 diff webcams...
[11:44] <[GuS] > to see
[11:45] <ypsila> [GuS] :  drivers
[11:45] <steveire> Sanne_: Is there qt-dev or something like that?
[11:45] <Sanne_> steveire: you need to have the *dev packages of every library your compilation wants to link to
[11:46] <Sanne_> steveire: search for something starting with libqt and ending with -dev ;)
[11:46] <Sanne_> steveire: does the error mention a specific file it doesn't find?
[11:47] <[GuS] > ypsila, webcam works great, drivers works great
[11:47] <[GuS] > thats is not the problem
[11:47] <ypsila> [GuS] : what did you do?
[11:48] <steveire> Sanne_: configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[11:48] <[GuS] > ?
[11:48] <steveire> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[11:48] <[GuS] > ypsila, just to make you sure, i am not a newbie :)
[11:48] <steveire> I see nothing of interest in the config.log though.
[11:48] <ypsila> [GuS] : you said: two identical webcams :-D
[11:48] <Sanne_> steveire: no file mentioned. If it did, you could go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for the package that provides said file in the section "Search the contents of packages"
[11:48] <steveire> Will I install libqt3-dev?
[11:49] <tdn> I have installed kubuntu-desktop, but I still use gdm instead of kdm. Now I would like to use kdm. What do I do?
[11:49] <steveire> ah, I'll keep that in mind
[11:49] <[GuS] > ypsila, yes
[11:49] <[GuS] > so?
[11:49] <Sanne_> steveire: sec, I'll check something
[11:50] <ypsila> [GuS] :  how can your system know, when to switch from cam 1 to cam 2?
[11:50] <[GuS] > because /dev/video0 /dev/video1 etc etc ypsila
[11:50] <[GuS] > did you know that? :)
[11:50] <ypsila> [GuS] : but both will take the same driver?
[11:51] <Sanne_> steveire: I have libqt3-headers installed, I guess that's it, according to its description.
[11:51] <steveire> I'll have a go so.
[11:52] <steveire> Hmmm, another big meta-package
[11:52] <octan> ahh gus
[11:52] <octan> i know how to now
[11:53] <Sanne_> steveire: quote from description: "If you want to compile or develop programs which use Qt3, you have to install this package."
[11:53] <octan> install cqamgrab
[11:53] <ypsila> [GuS] :  as I already mentionded, I'm a beginner on kubuntu
[11:53] <steveire> Sanne_: Yeah, so I see.
[11:53] <Sanne_> steveire: :)
[11:53] <steveire> I had a quick aptitude show
[11:54] <steveire> getting packages always seems exceptionally fast, even for large downloads...
[11:54] <cpk2> to upgrade my kernel to 686 do i want to apt-get linux-686 or linux-image-686 ?
[11:54] <Sanne_> steveire: and I also have libqt3-mt-dev installed
[11:55] <steveire> I will too after this aptitude run
[11:55] <octan> [GuS] ,apt-get install camgrab,, then make a script like,,   while [ !-e /tmp/camstopfile ]  ;do sleep 10;  camgrap -device /dev/videoX -output /path/to/file.jpg ; done
[11:55] <Sanne_> steveire: ah, yes, with recommends ;)
[11:55] <[GuS] > ahh nice idea
[11:55] <octan> to stop it from running jusy do echo "0" > /tmp/camstopfile
[11:55] <[GuS] > camgrab could send it to the website? va FTP por example?
[11:56] <octan> yes
[11:56] <[GuS] > ok
[11:56] <steveire> Sanne_: Huh? I didn't know it automatically gets recommends too.
[11:56] <Sanne_> steveire: as far as I know, aptitude does. libqt3-mt-dev is listed under recommends for libqt3-headers.
[11:57] <steveire> right. I'm getting a similar error now for KDE. If I know anything about this, it'll probably be the last one...
[11:58] <steveire> I don't see any obvious candidate -dev's though
[11:58] <Sanne_> steveire: on to a hunt for kde dev packages, then :)
[11:58] <Sanne_> steveire: libkde...dev
[11:59] <Sanne_> steveire: I don't seem to have any of those, I'll help you find them on packages.ubuntu.com
[11:59] <steveire> I don't see any either. I see java files, games files etc.
[11:59] <SB|nblracer> what is the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu
[12:00] <drayen__> the k :P
[12:00] <Dr_willis> KDE and GNOME  by default as the DE.
[12:00] <steveire> Sanne_: kdebase-dev?
[12:00] <Sanne_> steveire: you're sure you don't see any file it complains about, maybe in config.log?
[12:00] <Sanne_> steveire: ah, sounds good
[12:01] <steveire> there's also kde-devel and kde-devel-extras
[12:01] <steveire> I'll look in the config.olg
[12:02] <Sanne_> steveire: I would decide from the descriptions and try them one by one. But kdebase-dev sounds good.
[12:03] <tony_> hello everyone..
[12:04] <tony_> can you please tell me , how to creat shortcut on my desktop ( KDE ) .. LIKE Trash , etc
[12:04] <Dr_willis> kde has some settings to show those icons.
[12:05] <Dr_willis> or to not show them.
[12:05] <steveire> agreed. Although I'll probably have all of the kde-devel files once I've installed the core...
[12:05] <tony_> im new , so can you please tell me how enable those setting to show them on my desktopp ?
[12:05] <Dr_willis> They are in the Perferances somewhere..  proberly under the Desktop Settings
[12:06] <Dr_willis> that would be the logical place for them
[12:06] <Sanne_> steveire: look at the dependencies, some my be metapackages anyway. Oh, there's also kdelibs4-dev, sounds also like you could need that.
[12:07] <Dr_willis> i see a tab for device icons.. but none for trash.. Hmm.. never wanted trash there anyway.. i perfer it on the panel
[12:07] <tony_> where did you see that..
[12:07] <tony_> im in system setting
[12:08] <Dr_willis> right click on the desktop
[12:08] <tony_> if i rightclick on desktop i can creat shortcuts , but i have to enter some command i guess, i tried that before and nothing worked, cuz i have no idea where those files reside
[12:08] <SB|nblracer> what is the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu
[12:08] <Dr_willis> configure desktop -> in the tabs
[12:08] <Dr_willis> SB|nblracer,  one has KDE one has GNOME
[12:09] <SB|nblracer> what is kde?
[12:09] <steveire> It configured fine. Thanks for the help Sanne_. I'm kinda pleased that it didn't work the first time around. I've not installed from source before, so now I know how to do it and what it does...
[12:09] <SB|nblracer> n vm
[12:09] <Sanne_> steveire: yeah, the first time it can be pretty much work hunting for all those devel stuff. Glad to have helped, you're welcome :)