[16:18] <Sakui> how can I rebuild the home directory of gnome. I'm unable to login at all.
[16:18] <scaldwell> Either way...  The vmware ESX host has added the memory without any issue.  The Ubuntu operating system sees the memory but has left it in an offline state.
[16:19] <daftykins> scaldwell: what makes you claim that?
[16:19] <scaldwell> When I use "cat /sys/devices/system/memory/memory136/state" it sees the new memory
[16:19] <daftykins> scaldwell: what RAM sizes were you going from and to - and what's the "uname -a" output from the VM?
[16:20] <TomyWork> scaldwell afaik, you can only reduce memory, but not add new memory
[16:20] <scaldwell> This server is on ubuntu 12.04 with a Linux 3.2.0-40-generic kernel
[16:21] <scaldwell> We are going from 16GB to 24 GB
[16:21] <TomyWork> reducing memory would work via the balloon device which just locks physical pages for itself and tells ESX they're free to throw away
[16:21] <scaldwell> Right.  But I am not trying to reduce memory.  I need to scale up the memory.
[16:22] <daftykins> scaldwell: that's not quite the information i asked for, i score that a 2 out of 3
[16:22] <scaldwell> I am trying to avoid a maintenance window this weekend.
[16:22] <daftykins> then your problem is with vmware, not with ubuntu imo
[16:22] <daftykins> the idea of live adding RAM just asks for trouble
[16:22] <scaldwell> How so, daftykins?
[16:22] <daftykins> can you give the requested output?
[16:23] <mYhOmEs> ------> //ns identify password | m $+ s $+ g mypass <---- help me about command!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:23] <daftykins> looks like 3.2.0-95 is current
[16:24] <scaldwell> I just found the fix.  ...kernel 3.2.39 has the fix.
[16:24] <scaldwell> That explains why I don't see this problem on the Ubuntu 14.04 machines
[16:24] <daftykins> scaldwell: just let it update to the latest
[16:24] <scaldwell> It only affects Ubuntu 12.04
[16:24] <daftykins> linux-generic should allow -95 on
[16:25] <scaldwell> ubuntu 3.2.0 doesn't have the fix
[16:25] <daftykins> you sure? sometimes things like that are backported
[16:26] <scaldwell> I will look through the release notes and see if it backported.
[16:26] <TJ-> scaldwell:  3.2.0-40.64 Ubuntu-3.2.0-40.64 == mainline 3.2.40
[16:26] <scaldwell> Nice to know TJ
[16:26] <scaldwell> Thanks!
[16:26] <mYhOmEs> "//ns identify password | m $+ s $+ g mypass" Help me plz!
[16:26] <TJ-> scaldwell: complete table here: http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/info/kernel-version-map.html
[16:27] <boxmein> mYhOmEs: wait what
[16:27] <TJ-> scaldwell: do you have the commit ID for the 'fix' - I can check it is in that release for-sure
[16:32] <Soul_Sample> any idea why changing the interface font through any program throws me back to the login screen?
[16:33] <jjlx> I am unable to use my touchpad. I have these weird messages in dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14051984/
[16:37] <nicomachus> jjlx: what's the hardware?
[16:38] <jjlx> nicomachus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14052092/
[16:39] <daftykins> jjlx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2260880
[16:42] <arch-nemesis> all the cool ubuntu talk is going on in #brobuntu
[16:43] <arch-nemesis> brobuntu best buntu
[16:43] <cfhowlett> well that's cute.  THIS channel is for technical support.
[16:47] <howtosed> hi. what's the best method to extract data from a HTML file? I want to get everything between two tags including the tags
[16:47] <DirtyCajun> open it in your favorite text editor
[16:47] <howtosed> from the command line
[16:47] <daftykins> grep...
[16:47] <howtosed> i should have said
[16:47] <daftykins> also that's not really OS support :)
[16:48] <DirtyCajun> XD
[16:48] <jjlx> daftykins: Parsing HTML using regex is a bad idea.
[16:48] <howtosed> what jjlx said
[16:48] <howtosed> i need to get everything between <tbody> and </tbody>
[16:48] <daftykins> not sure anyone mentioned regex yet
[16:48] <jjlx> howtosed: I'm not sure if this is the right channel for you to be asking this.
[16:49] <howtosed> ok, any recommendations jjlx ?
[16:49] <DirtyCajun> just open it in nano howtosed.
[16:49] <howtosed>  /ignore DirtyCajun
[16:49] <daftykins> DirtyCajun: i think the idea is to achieve the task programmatically, not a one-time thing
[16:49] <jjlx> howtosed: ask in #programming
[16:49] <howtosed> thanks. bye
[16:50] <DirtyCajun> he asked a vague off topic question then ignores me when i give him a valid answer to see the data. kids these days
[16:51] <daftykins> DirtyCajun: no your response was useless for the reasons i said
[16:51] <howtosed> DirtyCajun: your answers were just useless and boring
[16:51] <howtosed> no creativity at all
[16:51] <daftykins> lets move on now
[16:51] <howtosed> sure
[16:52] <daftykins> howtosed: you can /part now that you know you're in the wrong place :)
[16:52] <howtosed> ok, thanks ;)
[16:52] <jjlx> daftykins: Should I try this method for my touchpad? http://askubuntu.com/questions/623598/dell-inspiron-7347-inactive-cursor-with-my-touchpad-on-ubuntu-14-04
[16:52] <daftykins> i believe i already provided a link with a response.
[16:53] <Tarminquay> Hello
[16:53] <Tarminquay> Can I install Ubuntu using USB 3.0?
[16:53] <jjlx> daftykins: Yeah, had a look at it. I don't want to disable i2c.
[16:53] <cfhowlett> Tarminquay, yes
[16:53] <Tarminquay> My Intel NUC has no USB 2.0 port. Good to know.
[16:53] <Tarminquay> When did that change?
[16:53] <DirtyCajun> tarm keep in mind the usb device matters
[16:53] <DirtyCajun> i have a 3.0 that works and a 3.0 that just will not boot.
[16:54] <daftykins> jjlx: no it was removing that brand of i2c module, not the whole i2c functionality... re-read it.
[16:55] <Tarminquay> DirtyCajun: WHy
[16:55] <jackcom> Trailing characters: ruler^M  <—— what’s wrong?
[16:55] <DirtyCajun> i cant give you a difinitive answer but my personal opinion is the access to the MBR of the usb drive.
[16:55] <jackcom> E488 : Trailing characters: ruler^M  <—— what’s wrong?
[16:56] <jackcom> me? DirtyCajun
[16:56] <DirtyCajun> no tarm jack
[16:56] <daftykins> MBR would be irrelevant for EFI boot
[16:56] <DirtyCajun> ^and thats why my answer isnt difinitive
[16:57] <DirtyCajun> there are much smarter than me in here
[16:57] <jjlx> daftykins: I'm actually using a dell 7348 so the answer on askubuntu seems to be the most relevant in my case. I think I'll go with that. Thanks for the help though.
[16:57] <howtosed> just back to say sorry to CacheMoney
[16:57] <howtosed> DirtyCajun*
[16:57] <DirtyCajun> <3
[16:57] <howtosed> i couldnt figure it out and got annoyed when someone didnt give me the answer i wanted
[16:57] <howtosed> at least you tried to help me. so thanks
[16:58] <daftykins> howtosed: cut the off topic chat now thanks
[16:58] <howtosed> ok
[16:59] <unity_> hello
[16:59] <unity_> i have a problem.
[16:59] <daftykins> !details
[16:59] <jjlx> howtosed: there's a library known as beautiful soup for python that you might want to check out. It's for parsing html.
[16:59] <howtosed> yea jjlx thanks, i found that one. does exactly what i need
[16:59] <trism> jackcom: if you imported a text file from windows, the line endings use carriage return + line feed, but linux just uses the line feed, so you see the ^M for carriage return. you can use fromdos and todos in the tofrodos package to convert between them
[16:59] <unity_> my unity tweak tool settings are not saved, can anybody help me with that?
[17:00] <howtosed> daftykins: what is your opinion on the current oil embargo in Armenia?
[17:01] <jackcom> i don’ understand it : fromdos and todos in the tofrodos package trism
[17:01] <daftykins> howtosed: grow up.
[17:01] <unity_> my unity tweak tool settings are not saved, can anybody help me with that?
[17:01] <reactormonk> What's the easiest way to get systemd 209 on trusty?
[17:02] <trism> jackcom: it is a package: sudo apt-get install tofrodos; then for your text file, say it is text.txt you would enter: fromdos text.txt; in a terminal and it would remove the carriage returns from the line endings
[17:02] <daftykins> reactormonk: it wasn't used back then so i think you'd better wait for 16.04
[17:02] <reactormonk> daftykins, I'll just go with a vivid - apparently systemd-nspawn requires 209 at least in the client container
[17:02] <jjlx> daftykins: Is 16.04 going to be released with unity 8 by default?
[17:02] <jackcom> trism: thanks :)
[17:02] <unity_> my unity tweak tool settings are not saved, can anybody help me with that?
[17:03] <nicomachus> !patience | unity_
[17:03] <nicomachus> jjlx: no.
[17:03] <daftykins> jjlx: i'm the wrong person for that
[17:03] <unity_> ok sorry nicomachus
[17:03] <algirdas> Hello, maybe someone could help me enable Zend Thread Safety?
[17:03] <jjlx> nicomachus: No? Sure?
[17:04] <prasas> good evening
[17:04] <nicomachus> jjlx: positive. you can discuss 16.04 in #ubuntu+1 if you'd like.
[17:10] <unity_> my unity tweak tool settings are not saved, can anybody help me with that?
[17:10] <Guest12962> hmm
[17:11] <karstensrage> i have a vanilla ubuntu 14.04 server … i want to build something that has autotgen.sh, configure, make
[17:11] <karstensrage> is there a top level package that installs everythign I need or do i have to install everything seperately
[17:12] <rww> build-essential, perhaps?
[17:12] <Guest12962> sudo apt-get install tweak-tool
[17:12] <nicomachus> unity_: what version of ubuntu are you running, and how did you install unity tweak tool?
[17:13] <unity_> nicomachus: running 14.04, and unity tweak tool was already installed
[17:14] <jjlx> unity_: you can try reinstalling it if that helps
[17:14] <unity_> jjlx: i already did
[17:15] <nicomachus> unity_: does it clear out your settings on reboot, or just not apply them at all?
[17:15] <unity_> nicomachus: it doesn't apply them at all.
[17:17] <kubuntu-kde> hello
[17:17] <nicomachus> unity_: ok. try this: in a terminal, type "gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings active false" and then "gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings active false"
[17:18] <nicomachus> scratch that, second command should be "gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings active true"
[17:19] <nicomachus> sorry
[17:19] <rypervenche> karstensrage: Also, depending on what it is, there may already be a package out there that you can use. If not, I would use "checkinstall" instead of "make install" when running the last command.
[17:20] <unity_> nicomachus: that changed my text stly
[17:20] <unity_> nicomachus: style
[17:20] <nicomachus> unity_: you did both commands? setting false and then true?
[17:20] <unity_> nicomachus: should i reboot now? because like that it doesn't work
[17:21] <unity_> nicomachus: yeah, the text style changes were applied after the first command. i was thrown to the lock screen
[17:21] <kubuntu-kde> unity remove tweak tool and install again
[17:21] <unity_> kubuntu-kde: i did already
[17:21] <nicomachus> unity_: you were thrown to the lock screen. so were you able to input the second command?
[17:22] <unity_> nicomachus: yes, after i entered my password and started another console
[17:22] <kubuntu-kde> i am using kde
[17:22] <nicomachus> ok. and did that revert the text style changes?
[17:22] <unity_> nicomachus: nope
[17:23] <nicomachus> eek. give it a reboot, see if that reverts it.
[17:23] <unity_> nicomachus: okay then
[17:23] <karstensrage> rypervenche: sorry what do you mean another package i can use?
[17:24] <karstensrage> build-essentials didnt give me autoreconf
[17:24] <rypervenche> karstensrage: Well, the first question we need to ask is what program are you trying to compile and install?
[17:25] <unity_> nicomachus: unity tweak tool still doesn't apply changes.
[17:26] <nicomachus> unity_: are you the only user account on that machine?
[17:26] <unity_> nicomachus: yes
[17:28] <ioria> karstensrage, do you have   autoconf pkg ?
[17:29] <karstensrage> ioria: i had to install dh-autoreconf
[17:29] <ioria> karstensrage, ok
[17:30] <nicomachus> unity_: can you paste the output of "ls -al ~/" in a pastebin and link that here?
[17:30] <unity_> wait a second...
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> Reventlov: have you been able to solve your gtx issue yet?
[17:32] <unity_> nicomachus: paste.ubuntu.com/14053115/
[17:34] <Tarminquay> Helllo
[17:34] <Tarminquay> Is Ubuntu going to be slow with a Celeron 3205U and 4 GB of ram?
[17:34] <Tarminquay> Should I use an i3 5000U?
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | Tarminquay
[17:34] <daftykins> Tarminquay: please take the topic to ##hardware as it is not OS support.
[17:34] <Tarminquay> What's that for?
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> Tarminquay: there is a flavor for every need
[17:35] <Tarminquay> Which flavor is recommended for a Broadwell Celeron 3205U at 1.5 GHz?
[17:35] <bazhang> !requirements | Tarminquay
[17:35] <OerHeks> Tarminquay, test it. why asking without seeing it yourself?
[17:36] <Tarminquay> Those system requirements are VERY low.
[17:36] <Tarminquay> You really think someone would be happy with those system requirements?
[17:36] <BluesKaj> Tarminquay, personally the i3 intel is a better experince here
[17:37] <Tarminquay> BluesKaj: But the Celeron box is $220 CAD. The i3 box is $380 CAD. That's a big incease in price, you see. I wonder if it's worth it for my non-power needs.
[17:38] <mcphail> Tarminquay: I understand you are exited about receiving your new computer and Ubuntu USB stick, but this is the Ubuntu Support channel, and is not a forum for theoretical problems or issues
[17:38] <xangua>  "For a !flavor with lower requirements, see !Xubuntu or !Lubuntu"
[17:38] <unity_> nicomachus: any idea?
[17:38] <mcphail> *hypothetical
[17:38] <nicomachus> unity_: I'm a bit stumped, tbh
[17:39] <ioria> unity_   do you have :  unity-webapps-service  and  unity-webapps-common  installed ?
[17:39] <unity_> ioria: how do i check that
[17:39] <ioria> unity_   dpkg -l   packagename
[17:39] <BluesKaj> Tarminquay, well, that's your call...I got adeal on the lenovo laptop with intel i3 cpu. gpu and audio
[17:40] <unity_> ioria: i do have both of them
[17:41] <ioria> unity_   maybe a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-tweak-tool/+bug/1157704
[17:41] <unity_> ioria: they are not even applied in the session
[17:42] <ioria> unity_   are you updated ?
[17:43] <unity_> ioria: what do you mean by that? newest ubuntu version??
[17:43] <ioria> unity_   no, upgrade , dist-upgrade
[17:43] <unity_> ioria: oh, yes i am
[17:44] <ioria> unity_   can you paste ther output of    /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p  ?
[17:45] <unity_> ioria: everything yes, but i can still paste
[17:45] <ioria> unity_   no, ok
[17:45] <ioria> unity_   you can try creating a new user ...
[17:46] <unity_> ioria: :(
[17:46] <ioria> unity_   just for test , so we'll know something more
[17:46] <reza_sam> Hi...how can i move up panell to down?
[17:47] <unity_> ioria: is a guest account enough?
[17:47] <ioria> unity_   i'm afraid not.... setting are lost, not sure
[17:48] <xangua> reza_sam: what panel? if you mean Unity, the possition is fixed
is there any desktop looklike windows 98 for linux?
[17:48] <k1l> reza_sam: install xubuntu
[17:48] <ioria> reza_sam, maybe ... :þ idk
taskbar...i wanna send it to botton
tnx
[17:49] <lrs> So my computer freezes randomly
 so i test it :)
[17:49] <lrs> And it gives me this error message
[17:49] <k1l> reza_sam: that is not possible with unity (the standard desktop for ubuntu). install xubuntu
[17:49] <lrs> After i shutdown manually and reboot
[17:49] <lrs> http://imgur.com/a/qrmsg
[17:49] <k1l> reza_sam: the package is "xubuntu-desktop"
[17:49] <lrs> Anyone know what to do?
[17:50] <TJ-> lrs: please don't use Enter as punctuation, all on one line where possible.
tnx and wanna download manager too
[17:50] <k1l> reza_sam: browsers have own downloadmanagers
[17:50] <lrs> TJ-, OK
[17:50] <ioria> reza_sam, have a read http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/174396-make-linux-look-like-windows-95-98-a.html   :p
 tmx :)...
[17:50] <unity_> ioria: i dont know the password...
 wanna look like IDM
[17:51] <k1l> reza_sam: i dont use a external downloadmanager so i cant tell you one
[17:51] <ioria> unity_   of what ?
[17:51] <unity_> ioria: of the new created account
[17:51] <k1l> reza_sam: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/554062/how-i-can-install-internet-download-manager-on-ubuntu-14-04
[17:51] <k1l> reza_sam: but there is not really a need for such thing, imho
[17:51] <ioria> unity_    how did you do that?
[17:52] <unity_> ioria: in the system settings i added a new user
[17:52] <TJ-> lrs: did you send the error report so a bug is registered in Launchpad?
[17:52] <unity_> ioria: but i wasn't asked for a password
 i wanna have temporal download...so i need download manager
[17:52] <lrs> TJ-, A 100 times
[17:52] <lrs> Ive had this problem for like  4 months
[17:52] <lrs> And sometimes I dont get an error message whe ni shut down
[17:52] <TJ-> lrs: do you have the bug number, or a link to it?
[17:52] <lrs> If i send it away
[17:53] <lrs> Do i get it then?
[17:53] <ioria> unity_    sudo passwd  'username '
[17:53] <lrs> Im on the screen there right now
[17:53] <sukeesh> #reza_sam axel download manager is good
[17:54] <lrs> TJ-, Should I press continue?
huum tnx
[17:54] <unity_> ioria: ok now i'm logged in
[17:54] <TJ-> lrs: yes, please do. I can't find any bug reports with the title shown in your screenshot right now
[17:54] <lrs> TJ-, Ok, I pressed continue now
[17:55] <ioria> unity_    let's try some simple setting...
[17:55] <ioria> *s
[17:56] <unity_> ioria: still not saved
[17:56] <Lokie> lubuntu 15.10 again systemd doesn't allow suspend / reboot / etc
[17:56] <Lokie> what steps can I take to find what stops it and  fix it?
[17:56] <ioria> unity_    have you already rebooted ?
[17:56] <unity_> ioria: oh wait a second
[17:58] <lrs> TJ-, My guesses is that there is something wrong either with the graphics driver, sound driver, touchpad/keyboard or the resume/suspend thing... But which one I have no idea. The problem is that it freezes completely at random when Im using the computer. Ive tried to use it with touchpad disabled and usb keyboard, and havent had it crash then. But I have no idea if thats the problem... The error here seems to point towards th
[17:58] <lrs> e audio pulse driver? Basically everything freezes on the screen but the stuff keeps on working, sound playing and I assume all the other processes but the image is frozen.
[17:59] <lrs> Before, sometimes I could make it reset by shutting down the lid and then being able to log out and then log in again, but i disabled that right now to see if htats the problem. So now i just have to shut it all down
[17:59] <lrs> And then sometimes it gives me that error when i reboot
[17:59] <unity_> ioria: doesn't work
[17:59] <TJ-> lrs: that sounds like a graphics failure. Your screeshots show a Kernel Oops - which is a severe failure in the kernel, we need the bug report because it will have all relevant log files attached
[17:59] <unity_> ioria: settings are deleted upon closing the tweak tool
[17:59] <lrs> TJ-, How do you find it? I sent it away
[17:59] <ioria> unity_    dpkg -l compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:00] <unity_> ioria: i know that i have it
[18:00] <unity_> ioria: compiz works fine
[18:00] <TJ-> lrs: usually when you post the bug it should open a local web browser on the bug report page so you can details of what you were doing when the failure happened. It could be there's already the same bug report by others and so instead of creating a new bug report it simply added a 'me too' to that
[18:03] <lrs> TJ-, That has never happened for me
[18:04] <ioria> unity_    dpkg -l compiz-plugins-extra
[18:05] <unity_> ioria: not sure how to interprete that, it says "un" in the beginning
[18:06] <TJ-> lrs: I've found a large number of the same kind of bug, with duplicates, which is probably why
[18:06] <ioria> unity_    you don't have it...
[18:06] <lrs> TJ-, Wow, nice.
[18:06] <lrs> Whats the link?
[18:06] <unity_> ioria: so?
[18:07] <ioria> unity_    you can try to install ...
[18:07] <ioria> sorry, brb
[18:09] <unity_> ioria: ok i did
[18:10] <lrs> TJ-, Did you find any link for the bug? Cant find any
[18:12] <TJ-> lrs: the master is bug 1054732 but the kernel versions across all those reports vary so much its more of a catch-all for the prior suspend/resume issue - it doesn't cover a freeze-up of the display.
[18:13] <unity_> ioria: now?
[18:14] <lrs> TJ-, I think this might be it
[18:14] <lrs> "2 - If I shut the lid, which is set to "do nothing", the system will sometimes but not always lock up when I re-open the lid. This may be due to a separate cause."
[18:15] <lrs> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1084960 < Here
[18:15] <lrs> Yes
[18:17] <Lokie> so systemd-inhinit lists xfce4-power-manager as block(ed)
[18:17] <kai_____> anybody know what the application called "anonymous" on backbox?
[18:17] <Lokie> what can I do?
[18:18] <k1l> !backbox | kai_____
[18:18] <slidinghorn> hi everyone
[18:18] <k1l> better ask them, kai_____
[18:19] <kai_____> k1l: thanks
[18:20] <emadhelmi> is there any python channel in freenode?
[18:20] <emadhelmi> i have some python questions
[18:20] <OerHeks> #python
[18:21] <OerHeks> !python
[18:21] <emadhelmi> #python
[18:21] <rory> emadhelmi: I'm interested in what channels you tried before deciding to come here and ask
[18:23] <emadhelmi> OerHeks, When i try to send a massage it sys me i am un registered
[18:24] <OerHeks> emadhelmi, oh that is possible, register your name with freenode, some channels require that to avoid spambots and such
[18:25] <OerHeks> !register
[18:25] <OerHeks> we are an open channel, our choise :-)
[18:25] <Lokie> should systemctl -i suspend override the inhibit?
[18:26] <emadhelmi> OerHeks, How to do that sir?
[18:28] <unity_> ioria: no idea?
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> Lokie: maybe the #lubuntu guys know whats going on?
[18:33] <AlexQ> Hi. My Xubuntu stalls for a quite long moment when booting up: there is no disk usage during that time, but the splash screen animation is active. Can't see anything in dmesg though. How should I check what's wrong? It used to boot very fast earlier.
[18:33] <AlexQ> *quickly
[18:33] <EriC^^> AlexQ: press esc while it boots to see the msgs
[18:34] <AlexQ> EriC^^: That simple? I thought I should modify the kernel cmdline before booting :D Okay, let me check
[18:34] <AlexQ> exit
[18:40] <AlexQ> EriC^^: I managed to hit Esc before that period, splash screen disappeared, but there was only black screen and messages reappeared for a second or so only after the booting resumed. There you go with dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14054477/
[18:40] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Should I disable graphical boot/splash screen altogether? And how should I do it properly?
[18:40] <Myrtti> AlexQ: maybe you should do a bootchart
[18:40] <Myrtti> so you'd really see where it's hanging
[18:41] <sruli> TJ-: did you file a bug regarding the PAM close_session issue or should i file?
[18:41] <AlexQ> okay dokay
[18:42] <EriC^^> AlexQ: you could try removing quiet splash from the kernel line in grub and putting verbose
[18:42] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Guess I'll do that and bootcharting simultaneously, see what happens.
[18:44] <AlexQ> EriC^^: I also have a parameter $vt_handoff in kernel cmdline, what is that about?
[18:45] <EriC^^> i have no idea, i guess something to do with the tty's
[18:46] <sruli> how can i take snapshot with virsh/libvirt of disk only, VM has multiple disks but i only want snapshot of 1 disk, i tried to "virsh detach-disk" before snapshot but it does not allow while VM is off
[18:46] <ioria> unity_    nothing changed ?
[18:46] <AlexQ> reboot then
[18:48] <fabio> tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808.tar.gz -C $Home/.xchat2
[18:48] <capitancrunch> how to monitor battery from console/terminal?
[18:50] <xpto> Hey! Does anyone work with nortel vpns in linux?
[18:51]  * capitancrunch says Hello!
[18:53] <slidinghorn> capitancrunch: first, upower -e      to find your /org/.....   then upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0   <~~replace that path with whichever path the 1st command gives you
[18:53] <davidmichaelkarr> I noticed in an article that talks about "swapon" that it prints a "recommendation" to have 600 perms for a swap file, if it isn't set to that. I just went through an exercise to create a swap partition, and perms on the swap file were 644, but it didn't print that recommendation. Anyone know anything about this?
[18:55] <F-L-Y-E-R> Hello all, can someone help me: I am new to dedicated servers, I'm now using Remmina remote to operate it, so the question is: If I close remmina processes that are running on my server will keep running?
[18:55] <AlexQ> Chart created, but ends at 29 seconds, but booting to desktop takes around 2.5 minutes :( Where should I post that SVG file?
[18:56] <unity_> ioria: no :/
[18:56] <ioria> unity_    how did you install unity-tweak-tool ?
[18:56] <nicomachus> ioria: he says it was "already installed"
[18:56] <unity_> ioria: it already was installed
[18:57] <ioria> unity_    mmmmm
[18:57] <nicomachus> yea...
[18:57] <ioria> unity_    don't think so
[18:57] <slidinghorn> F-L-Y-E-R: As far as I know, remmina is just to access the server...it would have to be running in order for you to connect to it in the first place, and should continue running after you exit remmina
[18:57] <ioria> unity_    apt-cahce policy unity-tweak-tool
[18:57] <ioria> unity_    apt-cache policy unity-tweak-tool
[18:58] <unity_> ioria: where do i paste that
[18:58] <ioria> unity_    paste.ubuntu.com
[18:58] <F-L-Y-E-R> slidinghorn, so it doesn't matter what type of connection I chose because you can select different types, I chose VNC
[18:59] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: are you sure you want to waste the ressources on a server for running a desktop? why not use ssh as login per cli?
[19:00] <unity_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14054858/
[19:00] <F-L-Y-E-R> k1l, I'm using it for the first time and have no knowledge, also I'm not good in ubuntu so I need to see what is going on
[19:00] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Could you have a look at that? http://pasteboard.co/59bDhFM.svg+xml
[19:01] <slidinghorn> F-L-Y-E-R: what is the server's purpose?
[19:01] <ioria> unity_    it's all the output ?
[19:01] <F-L-Y-E-R> slidinghorn, to compile android ROM
[19:01] <unity_> ioria: yes
[19:01] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: you dont need a desktop for that
[19:01] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: its just terminal commands anyway.
[19:02] <ioria> unity_    should be like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/14054891/
[19:03] <F-L-Y-E-R> k1l, yes but I wanted to set up and I already opened it up and started to sync the source, so that's why I'm asking if I close it, it will stay running?
[19:03] <unity_> ioria: well yeah i forgot the first line saying unity-tweak-tool:
[19:03] <unity_> ioria: but that's it
[19:03] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: dont know about remmina. on ssh no, it will just stop. that is why you use screen on server
[19:04] <ioria> unity_    it's not only the first line... but ok
[19:04] <F-L-Y-E-R> k1l, what is screen on server?
[19:04] <unity_> ioria: ok i'll paste again then
[19:04] <ioria> unity_    ok
[19:05] <k1l> !screen | F-L-Y-E-R
[19:05] <unity_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14054946
[19:05] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: it will keep your terminals open on the server if you lose connection.
[19:05] <F-L-Y-E-R> k1l, so it means that I cannot shut down my pc under any cirmustances?
[19:06] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: in short: login per ssh, start a screensession with "screen -S name_here" then do your commands, logout of the screen with "ctrl+a+d" then if you want to reconnect login with ssh, on the server do "screen -r name_here"
[19:07] <sruli> F-L-Y-E-R: read k1l message carefully, u can shutdown ur PC
[19:07] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: if you use your server not as a server, dont suspect to act like a server.
[19:08] <ioria> unity_    well, the point is that unity-tweak-tool does not come preinstalled ...
[19:08] <unity_> ioria: soo??
[19:08] <EriC^^> AlexQ: i dunno much about that to be honest
[19:08] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Okay, I had to remove that $vthandoff to see messages apparently. I had something
[19:08] <EriC^^> ok
[19:08] <ioria> unity_   so... something weird happened
[19:09] <unity_> ioria: what do i have to do then
[19:09] <ioria> unity_   do you have for any changed tried gnome-tweak-tool ?
[19:09] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Took a pic, it said sth like that: "A start job is running for dev-disk-by\....\...\....\....\...device (45s / 1min 30s)
[19:09] <ioria> *for any chances
[19:10] <ikonia> AlexQ: someone was talking about this ealier, it was a bug with systemd mounting swap
[19:10] <F-L-Y-E-R> k1s, well I closed remmina and then came back again and all on screen tabs that I opened were running browser etc
[19:10] <unity_> ioria: i don't think so
[19:10] <unity_> ioria: i read about it though
[19:10] <EriC^^> AlexQ: is your swap mounted right now? type free -m
[19:10] <ioria> unity_   uname -r
[19:10] <F-L-Y-E-R> k1s, I'm a windows user and use ubuntu for building ROMs so now I had a chance to win dedicated server but I still need to boot ubuntu to operate it anyway
[19:10] <EriC^^> seems this encrypted swap bug is pretty common..
[19:10] <AlexQ> ikonia: I actually don't have any swap atm. Windows 10 installer thought that it was free space when installing, for some reason xD
[19:11] <ikonia> I think it was BluesKaj who noted it
[19:11] <unity_> ioria: 3.19.0-39-generic
[19:11] <ikonia> AlexQ: if you do "swapon -s" what do you see
[19:11] <EriC^^> AlexQ: well that would explain it, systemd is still trying to find it and it's taking longer to mount
[19:11] <EriC^^> *to boot
[19:11] <lrs> TJ-, Hey, sorry. Had to go for a while. So what do you suggest?
[19:11] <lrs> TJ-, Ive tried to reinstall and uninstall loads of different nvidia divers
[19:11] <nicomachus> ioria: grep unity-tweak /var/log/apt/term.log | pastebinit?
[19:11] <ioria> unity_   ^ nicomachus
[19:12] <ikonia> I'd never heard of the bug before and it doesn't happen on my systems, but when I looked into it, the bug looks real
[19:12] <unity_> ioria: hahaha
[19:12] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: running a desktop on a server produces a lot of overheat. i really suggest to just use the ssh login with screen. since there is nothing to "look at " either terminal windows. which is the same if you look at them trhough ssh on your laptop.
[19:13] <F-L-Y-E-R> k1l, thanks I will try this but anyway now I'll need to wait till sync is over not gonna take that long anyway
[19:13] <unity_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14055099/   ioria nicomachus
[19:14] <nicomachus> so it was installed with apt-get, then.
[19:14] <F-L-Y-E-R> k1l, so are there anything like screen for windows?
[19:14] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: you dont need that on windows
[19:15] <k1l> or is this a windows server?
[19:15] <ioria> unity_   let's try to purge it ...
[19:15] <F-L-Y-E-R> k1l, no it's ubuntu server
[19:15] <slidinghorn> F-L-Y-E-R: so you're logging into the ubuntu server FROM windows?  you can use PuTTy for that
[19:15] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: so login with ssh on that server. then start the screen session like i described
[19:15] <ioria> unity_   sudo apt-get purge unity-tweak-tool
[19:15] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: to use ssh on windows, use something like "putty"
[19:16] <unity_> ioria: restart after?
[19:16] <ioria> unity_   log out , log in and we'll reinstall
[19:16] <EriC^^> AlexQ: type cat /etc/fstab , and sudo blkid and paste the results
[19:16] <F-L-Y-E-R> k1l, oh sorry I thought screen needs to be run on my personal machine... Ok no more questions
[19:17] <AlexQ> EriC^^: ikonia: free -m: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14055130/  swapon -s / sudo swapon -s : nothing
[19:17] <unity_> ioria: ok
[19:17] <unity_> ioria: done
[19:17] <ioria> unity_   try to aou-hide the launcher
[19:17] <ioria> unity_   try to auto-hide the launcher
[19:18] <AlexQ> EriC^^: /etc/fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14055178/ sudo blkid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14055190/
[19:18] <unity_> ioria: do i have to do the logout after the installation??
[19:18] <ioria> unity_   no
[19:19] <unity_> ioria: still doesn't work :(
[19:19] <EriC^^> AlexQ: type sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[19:19] <sruli> F-L-Y-E-R: k1l: when i need to SSH and dont have access to a linux machine i have been using an extention in chrome https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/secure-shell/pnhechapfaindjhompbnflcldabbghjo/related?utm_source=chrome-ntp-icon  like it much better then putty
[19:19] <ioria> unity_    apt-cache policy unity-tweak-tool   again please
[19:19] <AlexQ> EriC^^: ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14055215/
[19:20] <unity_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14055224/
[19:21] <EriC^^> AlexQ: looks like the swap is gone
[19:22] <EriC^^> AlexQ: i guess you have to resize one of the partitions to make a swap
[19:22] <AlexQ> EriC^^: I told you, Win10 thought that it was free space in that extended partition and made its' NTFS volume larger, even though there already was a NTFS logical partition prepared :D
[19:22] <ioria> unity_    can you paste /etc/apt/sources.list ?     you can install pastebinit and do  cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[19:23] <EriC^^> :D
[19:23] <OerHeks> unity_, looks like you have no unity then, maybe ubuntu gnome/mate/xubuntu
[19:23] <slidinghorn> sruli: that's still in its beta, though, and its description says it's known to have bugs...probably not a good recommendation for someone who's never used a terminal before
[19:24] <unity_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14055266
[19:24] <k1l> honestly, i would not use any webbased ssh tools.
[19:24] <slidinghorn> ^^ +1
[19:24] <unity_> OerHeks: i installed the ubuntu package when i was using xubuntu
[19:24] <unity_> OerHeks: but everything works fine except of unity tweak tool
[19:24] <sruli> slidinghorn: good point, i was only stuck without a linux machine a handfull of times thats home many times i used that plugin, worked fine
[19:25] <ioria> unity_    you are Xubuntu ?
[19:25] <unity_> ioria: yes do i have to reinstall?!
[19:26] <ioria> unity_    wt.....
[19:26] <unity_> ioria: ??
[19:26] <OerHeks> lolz, no, logout, change DM to unity, and login
[19:26] <ioria> unity_    you can't use unity-tweak-tool on Xubuntu
[19:26] <OerHeks> then unity tweak will work
[19:26] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Actually it is not friendly at all, you have to have that empty space on the beginning of your drive as well. I only succeeded because I assumed it is needed, as previous installations had this. I had an empty 512 MiB NTFS as first partiton and another empty NTFS logical partition for the OS, but it did not want to go forward, so I removed that first empty NTFS partition and swap partitions disappeared from the installers' list :D Crazy. But fortunately X
[19:27] <fabio>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[19:27] <unity_> ioria: no no i am running ubuntu
[19:27] <teward> AlexQ: (message cut off)
[19:27] <k1l> fabio: dont do that commands in a channel, do them in the server window.
[19:27] <unity_> ioria: ok it was like that: i had xubuntu, then i downloaded the ubuntu packages and when i went to the login screen i could switch to ubuntu. now ubuntu is working.
[19:27] <AlexQ> teward: Ahh, nevermind, just complaining about Win10 installer.
[19:28] <ioria> unity_    # deb cdrom:[Xubuntu 14.04 LTS _Trusty Tahr
[19:28] <anticore> hhey guys, i'm having troubles setting up my backup policy. i can find documentation on how to setup full and incremental backups but i can't seem to find how to only do incrementals on certain directories. can anyone point me in the right direction?
[19:28] <anticore> this is using backuppc
[19:28] <ioria> unity_    apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:28] <unity_> ioria: that's what i did
[19:29] <AlexQ> EriC^^: So can I disable swap on boot up so that systemd won't search for it? And how does it know precisely how long it takes from the very beginning? It just goes from 0 to 1m 30 and then continues xD
[19:30] <AlexQ> EriC^^: There is no HDD activity reported by the LED at all. Not a single blink
[19:30] <EriC^^> AlexQ: yeah, you can comment out the swap in /etc/fstab
[19:30] <EriC^^> yeah it's probably just waiting for it, then it gives up and continues
[19:31] <EriC^^> AlexQ: maybe you can make a swap file
[19:34] <scaldwell> daftykins, TJ thanks for the insight earlier.  Just having someone to bounce the issue off of got one problem solved today.  I appreciate the assist. ;-)
[19:35] <ioria> unity_    sorry... running out of ideas ...
[19:36] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Oh thanks, I thought that it will be automatically detected when swap disappears. So I have to add it to /etc/fstab manually after I create that partition? Or is there an automatic way to do it?
[19:37] <django_> hey all im trying to do: pip3 install selenium what command can i put so it has permission
[19:37] <django_> i keep on forgeting :(
[19:37] <AlexQ> sudo?
[19:37] <EriC^^> AlexQ: yeah you need to replace the uuid in /etc/fstab after you make the swap with mkswap
[19:38] <EriC^^> AlexQ: yeah sudo mkswap /dev/sdxY ( after you create a partition for the swap )
[19:38] <EriC^^> ( dont mkswap /dev/sda obviously )
[19:38] <unity_> ioria: :/
[19:39] <ioria> unity_    anything else is working ?
[19:39] <unity_> ioria: i just want to change the location of the icons hahaha
[19:39] <unity_> ioria: compiz works just fine
[19:39] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Ehh, I removed the line instead of commenting it out. So mkswap won't add it automatically to fstab? Or other tool?
[19:39] <Finetundra> Hey folks, is there any reason that rhythmbox would refuse all audio files?
[19:39] <texla> 14.04.3..How to resize parition /dev/sda1...want to reduce to 40,000  using gparted
[19:40] <k1l> texla: boot a live dvd/usb
[19:40] <slidinghorn> Finetundra: what do you mean by "refuse"?
[19:40] <EriC^^> AlexQ: nope, mkswap only makes the partition a swap
[19:40] <EriC^^> and gives it a new uuid, then you add that uuid to /etc/fstab
[19:40] <avz> So this is what IRC looks like...
[19:40] <OerHeks> Finetundra, install restricted-extras for codecs & webplugins and such
[19:40] <Finetundra> OerHeks: I'll get on it!
[19:41] <OerHeks> !restricted
[19:41] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Well, whatever, I have that on paste.ubuntu.com, so I can copy from that and modify UUID, and I guess device file as well, should it change
[19:41] <avz> Why is windows 8 so annoying. Each time I update grub, It hogs the first spot in Boot Order so that it boots up instead of GRUB menu. ugh
[19:42] <EriC^^> avz: that's to do with grub not windows
[19:42] <k1l> avz: siwtch the bootorder in bios to the disk where ubuntu/grub is installed
[19:42] <EriC^^> that's not default btw
[19:43] <avz> It appears only in the boot menu. But not in the boot order selector in the BIOS menu, unfortunately
[19:43] <EriC^^> avz: oh, nevermind, misread
[19:43] <AlexQ> avz: Go to /etc/grub.d/
[19:43] <avz> is that an IRC channel?
[19:43] <EriC^^> avz: i think that has to do with uefi
[19:43] <avz> yes i have uefi
[19:44] <EriC^^> avz: every time i update win10 it boots as well
[19:44] <avz> i tried disabling it but it still boots to win8
[19:44] <EriC^^> avz: type sudo efibootmgr -v
[19:45] <avz> oh that might be because you used the temp fix of replacing the windows efi file with grub file
[19:45] <EriC^^> and pastebin in paste.ubuntu.com
[19:45] <EriC^^> ah i've helped you with that?
[19:45] <avz> ill try that soon. thanks for your help
[19:46] <AlexQ> avz: So you mean that it _DOES_NOT_ start GRUB then, it just ommits omits it and goes straight to Windows, just to clarify?
[19:46] <EriC^^> same thing happens here, when i update win10 it overwrites the efi file again and i have to back it up again and copy grub over it
[19:46] <avz> yes goes straight to win8
[19:47] <EriC^^> avz: did you replace the file or have i helped you with it?
[19:47] <avz> i replaced the file as a temp fix
[19:47] <EriC^^> oh ok
[19:48] <avz> ill enter the command you gave me when im ready to restart. my internet connection is too shaky right now
[19:51] <ioria> unity_     notify-osd  is installed ?
[19:51] <unity_> ioria: i don't know
[19:52] <ioria> unity_     apt-cache policy  notify-osd | grep Installiert
[19:53] <unity_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14055665/
[19:53] <drakum> Holas
[19:55] <ioria> unity_    pass
[19:56] <unity_> ioria: was?
[19:56] <unity_> ioria: what?
[19:56] <ioria> unity_   no other ideas :|
[19:57] <unity_> ioria: :/
[19:57] <unity_> can i somehow switch the position of the close/minimize buttons without the tool
[19:57] <ioria> unity_  no, it's hardcoded
[19:58] <unity_> ioria: -_-
[19:58] <OerHeks> ioria +1
[19:58] <ioria> OerHeks, :^.^:
[19:59] <ioria> unity_  but the other controls should work ...
[19:59] <unity_> ioria: which controls do you mean?
[20:00] <ioria> unity_  with the exception of the Windows control buttons... the other settings should work
[20:00] <unity_> ioria: the settings of the unity tweak tool???
[20:00] <ioria> unity_  yes
[20:01] <unity_> ioria: and how? e.g. changing the mouse cursor theme
[20:01] <ioria> unity_  i mean  'All  the other settings'
[20:02] <ioria> unity_   like hiding the Launcher
[20:02] <unity_> ioria: i don't get it
[20:02] <OerHeks> changing themes might require logout/login
[20:02] <ioria> unity_   have you tried to auto-hide the Launcher ?
[20:02] <unity_> ioria: no because i don't want it to autohide
[20:03] <ioria> unity_  it was a test ....
[20:03] <ioria> unity_  to see if it's working ...
[20:03] <OerHeks> oh, those autohide settings are in systemsettings itself
[20:04] <ioria> unity_  unity-tweak-tool -> Laucnher -> Auto-hide
[20:04] <unity_> ioria: yeah that one works
[20:04] <unity_> ioria: what about the mouse cursor theme
[20:04] <ioria> unity_  &5$554%4££%%
[20:05] <unity_> ioria: what?! hahaha
[20:06] <ioria> unity_  brb
[20:06] <unity_> ioria: ok
[20:09] <samsamsam> I am using rsync and to sync some folders I need elevated permission which I can do using sudo -i. How to do this using rsync?
[20:10] <ioria> unity_  unfortunately you cannot change the Minimize Close buttons on Unity ... you can do on other DE
[20:11] <unity_> ioria: what about the mouse pointer
[20:11] <ioria> unity_  Cursors
[20:12] <unity_> ioria: yeah
[20:12] <ioria> unity_  not working ?
[20:12] <OerHeks> "what about" is a strange demanding way of asking
[20:12] <unity_> ioria: you mean in the unity settings??
[20:13] <ioria> unity_  in unity-tweak-tool
[20:13] <unity_> ioria: it doesn't work there
[20:13] <unity_> ioria: well the settings are recognized correctly but not applied immediately
[20:14] <ioria> unity_  what do you want to do exactly with your pointer ?
[20:14] <OerHeks> again: changing themes might require logout/login
[20:14] <unity_> ioria: what do you mean??
[20:15] <ioria> unity_   changing shape ? color ? what ?
[20:15] <unity_> ioria: there are those installed themes and i'd like to change them
[20:16] <ioria> unity_   have you logout /  login after ?
[20:17] <unity_> ioria: yes.
[20:18] <ioria> unity_   you want to install new themes ?
[20:19] <unity_> ioria: i already have them. i just can't activate them
[20:20] <ioria> unity_    from ppa ?
[20:21] <unity_> ioria: i don't know anymore
[20:21] <ioria> unity_    you have to put them in a folder ,  .themes  ,   in your home
[20:22] <ioria> unity_    or use a ppa , like this  ppa:numix/ppa
[20:22] <unity_> ioria: when i use unity tweak tool they are listed, but after selecting them they are not loaded
[20:26] <ioria> unity_    which theme exactly ?
[20:26] <unity_> ioria: whiteglass
[20:30] <ioria> unity_    working for me...
[20:30] <unity_> ioria: did you restart in between??
[20:31] <ioria> unity_    no
[20:31] <unity_> ioria: well that's weird
[20:32] <ioria> unity_    go in unity-tweak-tool -> Icons -> Whiteglass   and see if nautilus changes
[20:33] <unity_> ioria: what do you mean by nautilus
[20:33] <ioria> unity_    in the launcher the nautilus icon will (should) change ....
[20:34] <ioria> unity_    nautilus is the file manager
[20:34] <reza_sam> hi...i have this problem again....some times cant move my mouse's pointer easily with my tochpad :(
[20:34] <unity_> ioria: oh yeah it does change
[20:34] <ioria> unity_    so it's working....
[20:34] <unity_> ioria: but the mouse pointer stays the same when changing the mouse icons
[20:37] <ioria> unity_    yeah...
[20:38] <dustinr> why is ubuntu always giving me system program problem detected at startup?
[20:38] <EriC^^> dustinr: press show more
[20:38] <dustinr> oh
[20:38] <dustinr> i haven't done that
[20:41] <ioria> dustinr, ls /var/crash
[20:41] <unity_> ioria: afk, dinner
[20:41] <reza_sam> plz help me guys...some times cant move my mouse's pointer easily with my tochpad
[20:42] <ioria> unity_    ok... maybe today ....
[20:42] <ioria> unity_    ok... maybe tomorrow
[20:44] <LX> hello
[20:44] <reza_sam> hello
[20:45] <LX> its my first time for years beeing in an IRC chat.
[20:45] <furkan> for the past few months, i've been getting repeated segfaults with some programs (chrome, pidgin, texworks), does anybody have any tips about how i could figure out if there's anything in common between them?
[20:45] <reza_sam> so its good :)
[20:46] <nicomachus> LX: welcome. This channel is strictly for ubuntu support. free chat can be done in #ubuntu-offtopic or #freenode
[20:46] <furkan> here are 3 screenshots: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mx5wati3rpyzzsi/Screenshot%20from%202015-12-09%2002-32-21.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/umc5slu0eapgg2d/Screenshot%20from%202015-12-15%2015-50-28.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/30gxsj26my8jhvl/texworks.png?dl=0
[20:46] <LX> OK, nicomachus
[20:46] <nicomachus> furkan: did that perhaps start when you did a kernel upgrade?
do u can help me?
[20:46] <RoadRunner> you can "throw" a file manager window at the edge of the screen and have it resize automatically to occupy 1/2 the screen.  Is that a feature of Unity or of Compiz specifically?
[20:46] <nick__> hi
[20:47] <furkan> nicomachus: i'm pretty sure it started happening after i upgraded to the 15.10 beta, so i suppose yeah that would have coincided with a kernel upgrade
[20:47] <slidinghorn> reza_sam: does the touch pad work at all?
[20:47] <Bashing-om> furkan: Memory .. bad or shortage ? Have you run a memtest on the ram ? How much ram is installed ?
[20:47] <nicomachus> reza_sam: You'll have to be more specific about the problem.
[20:47] <nicomachus> furkan: is your hardware old-ish at all?
[20:47] <furkan> Bashing-om: i have 16GB RAM, haven't done a memtest though
[20:47] <nicomachus> I had a mobo that didn't like the 3.19 kernel at all
[20:48] <furkan> nicomachus: it's a Phenom II X4 so oldish but still pretty capable i guess
[20:48] <Bashing-om> furkan: 16gigs ! (jealous) Well that is not the problem !
 my toch pad work good in mint and otther os...but i cant move good in ubuntu
[20:48] <reza_sam> sometimes
[20:49] <nicomachus> reza_sam: yea... "cant move good" isn't very specific.
[20:49] <furkan> i guess i should do a memtest... i didn't have any problems before, but i guess RAM could go bad with time?
[20:49] <Simonious> how do I identify what package to 'apt-get' for a particular application?
some tomes i have bit puse with pointer
[20:50] <EriC^^> Simonious: apt-cache search <application or description>
[20:50] <k1l> Simonious: "apt search <keyword>"
[20:50] <Simonious> thanks, what is the difference between these two answers?
[20:50] <Bashing-om> furkan: Not likely to go bad .. but possible . Might also see what ' free -m ' and ' top ' have to say about memory management .
[20:50] <k1l> Simonious: apt is the new apt-get
[20:51] <k1l> or apt-cache in that case
[20:51] <nicomachus> reza_sam: I'm sorry, but I'm having trouble understanding, and I take it that English is not your first language. Would you perhaps be more comfortable in a channel that speaks your native language?
[20:51] <furkan> Bashing-om: lots of cache but plenty of free space
[20:51] <Simonious> so.. the application I'm looking for is comspy and both returned nothing, please advise.
[20:51] <furkan> and the thing is, it only happens with specific programs... like it happens with chrome but never with firefox
[20:51] <furkan> i was thinking if there could be some system library that's corrupted
[20:52] <furkan> a library that all 3 of these programs use
[20:52] <furkan> would there be any way to find out what dependencies they have in common?
[20:52] <k1l> Simonious: its not in the repos. so see the projects website how to install
[20:53] <Bashing-om> furkan: With 16Gifgs, I would not think swap to be an issue . but does not hurt to watch it . Any obsreved abnormalities prior to system seg faulting ? ( stomping on protected memory ) .
[20:53] <reza_sam> nicomachus>listen again...for example my mouse'pointer is right corner and i wanna move it to left corner...some times i can move it easily and some times i have a bit puse for move it
[20:54] <furkan> Bashing-om: i've disabled the swap file :P
[20:54] <reza_sam> nicomachus>Do u understand?
[20:54] <furkan> and no observed abnormalities, other than the program freezing for a few seconds before the segfault
[20:54] <furkan> and everything else continues to run normally
[20:56] <Bashing-om> furkan: Sounds like a task for 'strace' . But usually above my skill level to read what all the system is doing .
[20:56] <reza_sam> nicomachus so are u here my friend?
[20:57] <furkan> Bashing-om: oh man... i think i'd do a clean install before resorting to that lol
[20:57] <nicomachus> reza_sam: jesus, be patient.
[20:59] <reza_sam> nicomachus> so  do u can solve my problem or unistall ubuntu and come back mint or fedora?just it
[20:59] <furkan> according to 'apt-cache depends', the only dependency they have in common is libc6
[20:59] <lotuspsychje> reza_sam: best to re-ask your issue in one line once in a while and be patient
[21:00] <Bashing-om> furkan: Might do something like ' apt-cache depends google-chrome-stable ' redirecting to a file, and same for the other misbehvaing apps. then compare the files for shared attributes ?
[21:00] <furkan> Bashing-om: yeah that's what i just did, libc6 is the only one i see in comon
[21:00] <fullstack> Help
[21:00] <fullstack> my /boot ran out of disk space
[21:00] <furkan> *common
[21:00] <fullstack> when I tried to upgrade my kernel;
[21:00] <furkan> fullstack: uninstall some old kernels?
[21:00] <k1l> fullstack: remove old kernel packages
[21:01] <fullstack> ok, how do I list and remove un-used or old kernel
[21:01] <fullstack> dpkg -l | grep kernel
[21:01] <k1l> dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[21:01] <Bashing-om> furkan: Following that line of thoght, md5sum libc6, see if there might be some corruption ?
[21:01] <furkan> fullstack: the way i do it is dpkg -l | grep linux
[21:01] <fullstack> ?
[21:01] <furkan> lol fullstack
so im in work and im very nervous...i have important job so wanna solve it faster tnx
[21:02] <furkan> yeah fullstack so look for linux-headers and linux-image
[21:02] <fullstack> ok, how do I rm them
[21:02] <nicomachus> reza_sam: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[21:02] <lotuspsychje> reza_sam: again...re-ask your issue once in a while
 15.10
[21:02] <furkan> fullstack: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-blabla linux-headers-blabla linux-image-extra-blabla
[21:03] <Bashing-om> fullstack: If you are not at full capacity . and the package manager is still in a consistent state ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' will also remove old kernels .
[21:03] <furkan> just copy/paste them all
[21:03] <reza_sam> n<lotuspsychje>for example my mouse'pointer is right corner and i wanna move it to left corner...some times i can move it easily and some times i have a bit puse for move it
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> furkan  also try   sudo aptitude purge ~c   <-- that's a tilde
[21:03] <furkan> also fullstack pro-tip: if you have a middle mouse button, just select the package name and then middle-click, and it will automatically copy/paste (in case you didn't know that terminal trick)
[21:04] <lotuspsychje> good evening MonkeyDust
[21:04] <fullstack> so linux-headers aren't stored in boot
[21:05] <furkan> fullstack: right, but you might as well remove them anyway since you won't need them anymore
[21:05] <bekks> fullstack: No, they arent stored in boot.
[21:05] <nicomachus> reza_sam: is it just a slight pause before it works, and is that usually after you are typing?
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> fullstack   also try   sudo aptitude purge ~c   <-- that's a tilde
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> hi lotuspsychje
[21:06] <nicomachus> reza_sam: does it sound like it may be this? https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/mouse-wakeup.html
 some times for 2 sec...and ...some times after every work i see this problem
[21:07] <fullstack> Ok another problem.. When I upgrade to 14.04.02 LTS kernel, it fails on Intel 915 driver
[21:07] <fullstack> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.19.0-39-generic (x86_64)Consult /var/lib/dkms/i915-3.16-3.13/1/build/make.log for more information.
[21:07] <bekks> fullstack: 14.04.3 is the current one.
[21:07] <xr> i need some help, my wifi signal is really low, I tried other distros but it's the same result (probably the kernel?) my wifi is not working properly. Here are my network specifications http://pastebin.com/akcGL9Cm
[21:07] <bekks> fullstack: So look at that log then.
 yeah yeah i think lool like this link
[21:08] <lotuspsychje> xr: ubuntu version?
[21:08] <fullstack> I ran apt-get install linux-generic-lts-vivid  -- but I didn't include the Xserver stuff with it,
[21:08] <nicomachus> reza_sam: this link has more info about configuring the touchpad: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[21:08] <bekks> fullstack: Of course it doesnt, because you didnt tell it to include it.
[21:09] <fullstack> Yes
[21:09] <fullstack> so when I re-run it with the Xserver stuff -- it bombs
[21:09] <fullstack> which I'm assuing the Xserver stuff fixes the intel 915 display problem
[21:09] <xr> lotuspsychje: this is really important?
[21:09] <p444> Hi, can someone help me out with creating a file to run DF command to run in cron each mornign and email it to my email?
[21:09] <bekks> fullstack: Define "it bombs".
[21:09] <lotuspsychje> xr: details can matter yes
 my problem is in first link that u give me but i cant see any answer for it
[21:11] <fullstack> bekks, : http://paste.ubuntu.com/14056469/
[21:12] <fullstack> Here is my i915 kernel module build failure, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14056474/
[21:12] <bekks> fullstack: Pastebin "sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade" please.
[21:12] <xr> lotuspsychje: ubuntu 14.03
[21:12] <lotuspsychje> !realtek | xr
[21:12] <fullstack> bekks, I'm on a 3g cellphone, is that going to use a lot of data?
[21:13] <lotuspsychje> xr: did you install ubuntu with cable internet and updates enabled during setup?
[21:13] <bekks> fullstack: Yeah, that might happen.
[21:13] <xr> lotuspsychje: yes
[21:13] <lotuspsychje> xr: you might need firmware for your realtek
[21:13] <fullstack> bekks, is there an alternative
[21:13] <fullstack> bekks, suggestion?
[21:14] <xr> lotuspsychje: what is wrong with the one actually used?
[21:14] <nicomachus> reza_sam: there was a solution there to turn off the feature. "Go to System > Preferences > Mouse > Touchpad and uncheck 'Disable touchpad while typing' and 'Enable mouse clicks with touchpad'. (This method is not available under Ubuntu 14.04.)"
[21:14] <mcphail> p444: cron should email by default
[21:14] <lotuspsychje> xr: you say your wifi signal is bad
[21:15] <fullstack> Need to get 1,165 MB of archives.
[21:15] <fullstack> That's not going to happen
[21:15] <fullstack> that's $30 in data
[21:15] <p444> mcphail: but what would the script be i make? to run the command at certain time. im also not sure once i make script where to put it, i see different cron folders (i'm new to this and tryin learn, sorry if its stupid question)
[21:16] <bekks> fullstack: The alternative is not using a cellphone.
[21:16] <nicomachus> xr: you may need this fix: https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/
[21:17] <lotuspsychje> Reventlov: still not awake?
[21:17] <xr> lotuspsychje: it was a bad question, how did you locate the problem?
[21:17] <chalcedony> hubby's ubuntu 14.04 seems to have lost it's entire desktop settings. we remove/replaced ubuntu-desktop and cairo-dock, as well as  dconf reset - but now the top/task bar does not have anything on it and isn't relating to applications on the page. the File Edit View etc isn't working there.. how can we get that back?
[21:17] <mcphail> p444: you just need the command itself, in your default crontab (edited by calling "crontab -e"). The format of the crontab is simple - see "man 5 crontab" for the info. (Note you need the "5" in that command)
[21:17] <chalcedony> chull, ^^
[21:18] <mcphail> p444: you'll see you can also set the MAILTO environment variable to change the mail recipient
[21:18] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | chalcedony fix broken packages
[21:19] <chalcedony> thanks looking
[21:20] <mcphail> p444: also, unless you have set up a MTA such as postfix, you'll be limited to local mail delivery on your machine
[21:21] <fullstack> bekks, :( sad
[21:22] <bekks> fullstack: And you are missing more than 1G of updates. I'm not wondering about your update issues at that point.
[21:22] <bekks> fullstack: At least you should run "sudo apt update" for fetching current package lists.
[21:23] <p444> mcphail: when i click crontab-e i can edit yeah, but its all the nos to set time make no sense, is it after the nos then i just write DF
[21:23] <bekks> p444: What is "nos"?
[21:24] <mcphail> p444: yes - as I said, read "man 5 crontab" or you'll get in a mess
 icant see this option in 15.10
[21:24] <mcphail> p444: cron is very particular about the format of the crontab file
[21:24] <p444> bekks: numbers*
[21:25] <Smart_Pussy> Hi all
[21:25] <p444> mcphail yeah im tryin figure out the numbers im readin it here online but can see the date, but tryin figure how do it daily
[21:25] <bekks> p444: thats explained in man 5 daily
[21:25] <mcphail> p444: if you had read the man page, you would have seen a specific example
[21:25] <p444> im lukn it up now
[21:25] <p444> looking
[21:25] <Smart_Pussy> any help here?
[21:26] <nicomachus> !ask | Smart_Pussy
[21:26] <p444> thanlks, i was continuing to type and look it up as i talked back to you
[21:26] <Smart_Pussy> ok
[21:26] <mcphail> p444: I don't often ask people to Read the Fine Manual, but in crontab's case it is mandatory
[21:27] <Smart_Pussy> any one from microsoft?
[21:27] <nicomachus> ... no
 wahts wrong with u?
[21:27] <bekks> Smart_Pussy: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[21:27] <Smart_Pussy> yes
[21:28] <bekks> Smart_Pussy: So finally ask your Ubuntu related support question please.
[21:28] <Smart_Pussy> how can i instal windows xp?
[21:28] <lotuspsychje> Smart_Pussy: do you have an ubuntu question?
[21:28] <mcphail> Smart_Pussy: I presume you intend to bore us all with the same troll again today?
[21:28] <Smart_Pussy> any smart admin here?
[21:28] <reza_sam> Smart_Pussy> :| with dvd or iso file :|
[21:28] <cfedde_> Smart_Pussy: use virtual box.
[21:28] <OerHeks> Smart_Pussy, you have been removed 2 days ago beiing a troll, didn't you learn?
[21:28] <reza_sam> Smart_Pussy> use kvm or virtual box
[21:29] <Smart_Pussy> from microsoft?
[21:29] <cfedde_> from oracle.
[21:29] <Smart_Pussy> any Bill Gates here?
[21:30] <Smart_Pussy> Bill help my
[21:30] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Smart_Pussy troll doesnt wanna learn
[21:30] <p444> mcphail So i think i have it 25 06 10 05 * = 25mins 06am 10th day, 6th month and asterix = everyday
[21:30] <p444> great
[21:31] <kitler-13> помогите конкретному тормозу
[21:31] <Smart_Pussy> how much cost new windows?
[21:31] <nicomachus> !ru | kitler-13
[21:31]  * slidinghorn waves
[21:37] <RandomNoob> hello guys already asked in kubuntu channel. ill try to find answer for my question here too.  Im trying to create live usb with linux mint on kubuntu.  im using unetbootin. after rebook and trynig to boot from usb im getting error with "missing operating system"
[21:38] <daftykins> RandomNoob: all you need is 'dd' or 'cp'
[21:38] <daftykins> however i will warn you now, Mint is a bad move - and you won't be able to come in here for help anymore with it
[21:39] <RandomNoob> daftykins just now finished with dd. in folder i see weird names of files xD
[21:39] <bekks> RandomNoob: while using dd - the device want mounted, correct?
[21:40] <EriC^^> *wasnt
[21:40] <RandomNoob> yep
[21:40] <bekks> Yeah, typo :)
[21:40] <bekks> RandomNoob: So which exact dd command did you use?
[21:40] <EriC^^> :)
[21:40] <RandomNoob> sudo dd if=/home/tornike/Downloads/linuxmint-17.3-cinnamon-64bit.iso of=/dev/sdb1   i found information about 1. first tryied without 1 but usb flash drive was free. after that i added 1
[21:41] <RandomNoob> xD
[21:41] <k1l> dont dd into partitions. dd onto the bare usb drive
[21:42] <k1l> (when mint using hybrid isos. if not ask the mint channel how they like their isos to be made bootable on a usb drive)
[21:42] <bekks> RandomNoob: What k1l said. usinf sdb1 will not give you a bootable usb device.
[21:42] <EriC^^> RandomNoob: it's normal if it's free i think, it uses a special filesystem so it works with cd's and usb's
[21:42] <rypervenche> Rondom: So remove the 1 and try again.
[21:42] <rypervenche> errr
[21:42] <rypervenche> RandomNoob: ^
[21:42] <daftykins> RandomNoob: that was wrong, sdb not sdb1
[21:43] <RandomNoob> just format the drive with disk utility tool and run that command without 1 ?
[21:43] <RandomNoob> sudo dd if=/home/tornike/Downloads/linuxmint-17.3-cinnamon-64bit.iso of=/dev/sdb   like this
[21:43] <k1l> RandomNoob: no need to format. the dd command will format it anyway
[21:43] <bekks> RandomNoob: No need to format anything.
[21:43] <RandomNoob> kk
[21:47] <daftykins> you should add a bs=2M on the end of that
[21:47] <EriC^^> ^ oh, +1
[21:50] <RandomNoob> daftykins me ?
[21:51] <OerHeks> and sync after dd
[21:52] <box-broke-ubuntu> guys!
[21:52] <box-broke-ubuntu> I broke ubuntu
[21:52] <box-broke-ubuntu> unity here, after a restart all windows are black, but window decorations show
[21:52] <box-broke-ubuntu> unity dash draws correctly
[21:52] <daftykins> RandomNoob: yes
[21:52] <box-broke-ubuntu> transparency etc works, because notify-send stuff
[21:52] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: when did it go wrong?
[21:52] <Guest90566> box-broke-ubuntu, type your concerns on ONE line please.
[21:53] <EriC^^> box-broke-ubuntu: does the guest account work?
[21:53] <box-broke-ubuntu> Guest90566: yes yes
[21:53] <box-broke-ubuntu> EriC^^: good question
[21:53]  * box-broke-ubuntu brb
[21:54] <box-broke-ubuntu> EriC^^: nope, guest account has same issue
[21:54] <box-broke-ubuntu> EriC^^: weirdly enough, alert popups *do* show correctly
[21:54] <box-broke-ubuntu> except everything else doesn't
[21:54] <box-broke-ubuntu> this "everything else" includes GTK, Qt windows, chrome, system settings, but not terminal
[21:56] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: when did things go wrong?
[21:56] <daftykins> !pm | RandomNoob
[21:56] <box-broke-ubuntu> lotuspsychje: well, like 10 minutes ago
[21:57] <k1l> box-broke-ubuntu: what did you do before that happend? please tell the whole story it just shortens the path to the solution
[21:59] <ubuntu669> just installed ubuntu 15.10, it's really buggy, is this beta?
[21:59] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu3: tell us whats going on exactly?
[21:59] <k1l> ubuntu669: no, 15.10 is not beta
[22:00] <box-broke-ubuntu> of course
[22:00] <ubuntu669> kll is ubuntu always buggy?
[22:00] <box-broke-ubuntu> so what happened was
[22:00] <lotuspsychje> !details | ubuntu669
[22:00] <k1l> ubuntu669: no, ubuntu is not always buggy.
[22:01] <box-broke-ubuntu> I did the good old sudo shutdown -h now, and my dearest friend here started smashing every key
[22:01] <box-broke-ubuntu> shutdown completed, booted it back up, logged in and bam all windows are black
[22:01] <box-broke-ubuntu> dmesg doesn't show anything too intriguing
[22:01] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: did you do updates before shutdown?
[22:01] <ubuntu669> i will start with the first thing then, I have dual screen and launcher on main screen, I hide the launcher and have it on lowest sensetivity so it will show up when I move my mouse to left side, it never shows up
[22:02] <box-broke-ubuntu> lotuspsychje: nah
[22:02] <nicomachus> ubuntu669: turn the sensitivity up?
[22:02] <EriC^^> box-broke-ubuntu: whatever he smashed couldn't affect it system-wide though, maybe it's a laptop brightness setting?
[22:03] <ubuntu669> lol i was thinking in reverse
[22:03] <ubuntu669> haven't slept in 24h so i will blame it on that
[22:03] <matheus> hello
[22:03] <box-broke-ubuntu> EriC^^: wouldn't that also affect window decorations / unitydash / notifications?
[22:03] <chull> ubuntu669, you could rest?
[22:03] <box-broke-ubuntu> EriC^^: I can try to reset the xrandr fake screen brightenss thing
[22:04] <ubuntu669> yea gonna rest now, had to install ubuntu and windows today, so boring stuff
[22:04] <EriC^^> box-broke-ubuntu: is the login manager also affected?
[22:04] <box-broke-ubuntu> EriC^^: no
[22:04] <EriC^^> box-broke-ubuntu: ok, nevermind then
[22:05] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: what kind of graphics card chipset and driver?
[22:05] <ubuntu669> chrome keeps asking to be default browser but i see that it's a bug which has been confirmed
[22:05] <ubuntu669> and steam wouldn't install easily without tweaking
[22:05] <ubuntu669> bleh
[22:06] <box-broke-ubuntu> lotuspsychje: intel i3-380m with accompanying integrated something, plus a nvidia gt630m over optimus
[22:06] <k1l> ubuntu669: non of that is an issue for me. chrome and steam works flawlessly
[22:06] <chull> tell me if clicking yes is right - i'm in recovery mode and would like to fix the toolbar, which isn't displaying any of the things it should. but if i click this it says it "will remount your / filesystem in read/write mode and mount other file systems .. do i want this??
[22:06] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: did you install nvidia-prime?
[22:06] <ubuntu669> kll which version are you on?
[22:06] <k1l> ubuntu 15.10
[22:06] <Li> How do I find/create a list of softwares which I've installed on ubuntu aside from whatever dependencies where installed accordingly?
[22:07] <ubuntu669> kll i had to do this https://askubuntu.com/questions/614422/problem-with-installing-steam-on-ubuntu-15-04
[22:07] <ubuntu669> last time i had ubuntu i had to do same
[22:07] <EriC^^> Li: comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u)
[22:07] <ubuntu669> and chrome keeps asking me but like said many have same problem and it's confirmed bug
[22:08] <ubuntu669> weird that you are not having any issues
[22:08] <k1l> ubuntu669: running a 32bit OS?
[22:08] <chull> do i need to unmount lots of things first?
[22:08] <ubuntu669> kll: 64
[22:09] <ubuntu669> k1l not kll
[22:09] <k1l> ubuntu669: so its a video driver issue. i use a intel video card, which doesnt need that
[22:09] <ubuntu669> k1l: you only use integrated gpu?
[22:10] <box-broke-ubuntu> lotuspsychje: I haven't done much otehr than the default config
[22:10] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: if your card is optimus, you need to install nvidia-prime
[22:10] <TJ-> Li: use 'debfoster' - build its database with "sudo debfoster -q" then to list all the top-level packages do "sudo debfoster --show-keepers"
[22:10] <ubuntu669> k1l: You use weechat?
[22:10] <box-broke-ubuntu> lotuspsychje: and it's stayed pretty stable over around 2 months
[22:11] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: after that enable performance mode in nvidia-settings
[22:11] <ubuntu669> i can't get it working either
[22:11] <box-broke-ubuntu> lotuspsychje: so, uh, that will definitely reset whatever happened to how it once was?
[22:11] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: check also wich driver version your on
[22:12] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: you just need the right combo driver/ and prime
[22:12] <box-broke-ubuntu> yes but my driver configuration hasn't changed
[22:12] <box-broke-ubuntu> so that should be a null issue
[22:12] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: that doesnt mean it was the right combo
[22:12] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: please check it sudo lshw -C video
[22:13] <vova> test
[22:13] <k1l> ubuntu669: i dont use weechat
[22:14] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: and check if nvidia-prime is installed
[22:14] <k1l> box-broke-ubuntu: what ubuntu is that?
[22:14] <dragoonis> I'm root user, I can't chown a directory, permission denied - thoughts?
[22:15] <dragoonis> chown -R ubuntu workspace
[22:15] <box-broke-ubuntu> lotuspsychje: alrighty
[22:15] <k1l> dragoonis: dont be root. use sudo
[22:15] <box-broke-ubuntu> k1l: 15.04
[22:15] <box-broke-ubuntu> lotuspsychje: alright
[22:15] <dragoonis> k1l, same thing
[22:16] <box-broke-ubuntu> anyway
[22:16]  * box-broke-ubuntu awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
[22:16] <box-broke-ubuntu> gonna deal tomorrow
[22:16] <k1l> dragoonis: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[22:17] <dragoonis> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS"
[22:17] <k1l> dragoonis: is this a vagrant box?
[22:18] <dragoonis> k1l, yes it is
[22:19] <EriC^^> dragoonis: try lsattr workspace
[22:20] <k1l> dragoonis: i am not familiar with vagrant setups. seems like you need to change the permissions from the host
[22:20] <dragoonis> EriC^^, lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on workspace/dashboard
[22:21] <EriC^^> dragoonis: can you change ownership of other files?
[22:23] <michi_> hii
[22:23] <NwS> Heya guys. A quick question if anyone has any idea.. I'm trying to unzip a file and overwrite the old files but it fails. Any ideas what I am doing wrong: unzip -o file.zip -d folder/*
[22:25] <daftykins> NwS: why not unzip to another path then move, if it's being problematic?
[22:26] <NwS> daftykins, I've tried that but it wouldn't move all the files especially the ones within folders
[22:26] <NwS> I don't want to recreate the whole folder but replace with the new files wherever is needed hmm
[22:26] <daftykins> are you just replacing some core elements in the target directory, or is the whole thing going?
[22:26] <daftykins> yeah. i think your move was possibly not ideal then
[22:27] <NwS> I was following the freaking guide :P
[22:27] <daftykins> well there's your problem, you're unzipping - not freaking!
[22:27] <EriC^^> xD
[22:27] <NwS> lol
[22:28]  * Guest90566 loves elegant solutions!
[22:28] <bennyprofane> I'm trying to install http://www.passwordstore.org/ and it says to run apt-get but when I do I get the "E: Unable to locate package pass" error. I'm on a machine running 12.04 LTS, is this due to 12.04 being old or is it just not avail for some other reason?
[22:29] <Guest90566> bennyprofane, looks like you didnt add their repo
[22:29] <k1l> bennyprofane: you need to use the backports on precise
[22:29] <Guest90566> git might be easier
[22:30] <bennyprofane> cool thanks i'll check out backports
[22:30] <linux|newb> TJ-: thanks a lot for your bios analyser
[22:31] <k1l> bennyprofane: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[22:31] <linux|newb> TJ-: got my issue sorted :)
[22:31] <Dumle29> should relogging not be sufficient to reload environment variables?
[22:31] <vova> ls
[22:32] <vova> and i have question about printer
[22:32] <TJ-> linux|newb: oh cool, was it a firmware bug?
[22:32] <vova> can i configure printer vie wifi?
[22:33] <nicomachus> vova, yes with cups
[22:33] <nicomachus> !cups | vova
[22:33] <linux|newb> TJ-: yep - laptops about to die. wanted to say thanks :)
[22:33] <linux|newb> see ya
[22:33] <linux|newb> laptop's*
[22:33] <TJ-> linux|newb: good oh
[22:34] <vova> And can i install linux on lapton and when i will connect by telnet to my lapton, i install in lapton another connection to smartphone?
[22:35] <bekks> vova: you shall not use telnet, but ssh instead.
[22:36] <vova> In one books about English language i read that word 'shall' don't use? Replaced with 'will' ?
[22:36] <bekks> vova: Do not use telnet.
[22:36] <vova> thanks a lot, guys!
[22:37] <Li> How is it possible to limit the output of dpkg -l to a certain specified date?
[22:37] <vova> where i can find the IRC about not onle computers and networks? About life, sport, cooking and other none computer things?
[22:38] <nicomachus> !list | vova
[22:38] <daftykins> Li: it doesn't work like that, the status is what is there *now*
[22:38] <nicomachus> whoops.
[22:38] <nicomachus> !alis | vova
[22:41] <cgundersson> cd /window 1
[22:41] <cgundersson> nice :)
[22:43] <bennyprofane> k1l: backports worked :)
[22:45] <happynewyear2013> HELLO
[22:45] <jann_> hello
[22:45] <jann_> german her?
[22:46] <happynewyear2013> ja
[22:46] <jann_> cool
[22:46] <nicomachus> !de | jann_
[22:46] <jann_> mein erster raspberry :D
[22:46] <happynewyear2013> :D
[22:47] <jann_> seit gestern
[22:47] <k1l> jungs, #ubuntu-de ist der deutsche kanal :)
[22:47] <jann_> ach so ok
[22:48] <jann_> welche projekte habt ihr so am start ?
[22:52] <csmule> I'm in AWS in two different subnets. When I add an eth0:0 alias for a secondary IP I can't ping the other subnet. Any suggestions?
[22:52] <csmule> If I bring down eth0:0 I can ping the other subnet
[22:54] <TJ-> csmule: sounds like you're replacing the default route
[22:55] <csmule> Yeah, def messing up the route. Am I missing something? Is there a way to avoid that?
[22:56] <daftykins> i'm sure i've read that's not the right way to assign two IPs to the same interface
[22:57] <csmule> Could be, maybe I will rethink that.
[23:00] <uiopteyes> csmule: no
[23:00] <TJ-> csmule: show us the /etc/network/interfaces file you're using
[23:01] <csmule> sure..
[23:01] <csmule> https://gist.github.com/stonefury/30ca351e84ec11daf66d
[23:02] <TJ-> csmule: can you show us "ip route show" *before* and *after* bringing up eth0:0 ?
[23:05] <csmule_> sorry lost friggin connection. ANy ideas TJ-?
[23:06] <TJ-> csmule_: can you show us "ip route show" *before* and *after* bringing up eth0:0 ?
[23:06] <uiopteyes> kingplusplus: ops
[23:08] <kingplusplus> uiopteyes: ops
[23:08] <csmule_> TJ-: https://gist.github.com/stonefury/d4bb7cb5a87862f22719
[23:08] <UglyGook> would using the word nigger as part of your normal vocabulary be a good reason for you to be fired?
[23:09] <teward> !langauge | UglyGook
[23:11] <TJ-> csmule_: those routes look correct; I'd suspect something in the AWS routing config (possibly configured using the control panel
[23:12] <csmule_> Hm, I'll take a look. Thanks TJ-
[23:12] <TJ-> csmule_: it's likely the outgoing is fine, it's the replies not getting back because they don't know <IP_ADDRESS>/25 is on this host
[23:23] <tag> There is some feature in firefox that, the way it's implemented it makes Xorg go ape-shit and use tons of CPU cycles
[23:23] <tag> Does anyone know what that feature is and how to disable it?
[23:24] <k1l> tag: you mean the flash plugin?
[23:24] <tag> nope
[23:24] <tag> It's not that
[23:24] <tag> I have flash disabled
[23:25] <slidinghorn> tag: how many tabs do you have open for this?  Is it on a particular site, or any site?  Do sites it occurs on have anything in common?
[23:25] <tag> Sure, maps.google.com
[23:25] <tag> it basically freezes my workstation.  Also, hilariously enough even this one is a culprit: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-uses-too-many-cpu-resources-how-fix?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=Firefox+consumes+a+lot+of+CPU+resources
[23:25] <tag> though it's not nearly as bad as maps
[23:26] <tag> which brings firefox to it's knees on my workstation (Thinkpad X1 Carbon running Ubuntu 15.10)
[23:27] <tag> slidinghorn, with 5 tabs open
[23:27] <tag> slidinghorn, but maps crashes my workstation even I have only one tab open and it's maps.
[23:27] <TJ-> tag: probably Javascript and WebGL/OpenGL interface
[23:27] <tag> I mean, it doesn't crash it, but it freezes it up
[23:28] <tag> TJ-, That's what I was thinking, but then I disabled WebGL.
[23:29] <tag> And then I disabled hardware acceleration too
[23:31] <tag> I think it's some css-related feature
[23:32] <TJ-> tag: can you reduce the reproduction of the symptoms to a using a single tab and site?
[23:32] <tag> yeah, maps.google.com on a single tab.
[23:33] <sruli> TJ_: do u know where qemu stores snapshot xml files?
[23:33] <tag> Xorg gets busy, and it makes all compiz' animations slow down
[23:33] <tag> best case
[23:33] <tag> worst case I have to go to the console and kill firefox.
[23:34] <TJ-> sruli: I would have assumed the same directory as the base image, or the current working directory
[23:35] <TJ-> tag: what GPU does the system have?
[23:35] <drosophile> hi/salut
[23:35] <tag> Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics (rev 09)
[23:35] <TJ-> tag: OK, so an Integrated on-die
[23:35] <tag> Right.
[23:35] <tag> It's a Thinkpad X1
[23:36] <goddard> how can i tell ssh to always use a specific key file for a domain?
[23:37] <TJ-> tag: when it happens how much CPU usuage does the firefox process, or Xorg, consume. In a terminal use "top" to view it live, and press 'i' to hide the idle processes, and press 'H' to see threads as well as processes
[23:38] <TJ-> tag: if most of the CPU usage is in Xorg that points to a rendering issue
[23:38] <sruli> TJ-: neither dir, is there a way to find all files created in last 5 minutes? that might help me find the location
[23:39] <tag> TJ-, It's mostly Xorg, (79% on this current, one tab experiment, 12% by firefox).
[23:40] <TJ-> tag: right, so it looks like the rendering is at issue
[23:40] <tag> TJ- Right.  But it's something specific about how firefox is rendering these assets.
[23:41] <TJ-> sruli: using temporary snapshots then, I'd expect under /tmp/. You can do "ls -l /proc/$(pidof qemu-system-x86_64)/fd/"
[23:41] <drokkitop> .
[23:41] <drokkitop> france here, han solo is killed by his son kylo :(
[23:41] <SchrodingersScat> !offtopic | drokkitop, also spoilers.
[23:42] <tag> TJ-, Same assets in chrome are fine.
[23:42] <physixer> I assume build-essential is a meta-package? what is installed as part of it?
[23:42] <PMT> Depends: libc6-dev | libc-dev, gcc (>= 4:4.9.1), g++ (>= 4:4.9.1), make, dpkg-dev (>= 1.17.11)
[23:43] <PMT> at least on my system, the exact versions may vary
[23:43] <TJ-> tag: is this any help? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/HighCPU
[23:44] <physixer> well I already built gcc/g++ in my home directory, I already have make (I think ubuntu comes pre-installed with it), then the only thing left is libc-dev, libc6-dev, and dpkg-dev
[23:44] <k1l> physixer: see packages.ubuntu.com
[23:44] <physixer> I plan on building my own libc/libc6, so the only thing I need from the system is dpkg-dev
[23:45] <sruli> TJ-: cannot access /proc//fd: no such file or dir
[23:45] <physixer> k1l: I saw that but the build-essential page didn't provide much details. I gave 'dependencies' but not what are the contents of the essential-packages-list text file that is installed.
[23:45] <TJ-> sruli: hmmm, that means qemu-system-x86_64 isn't your QEMU hypervisor. What are you using?
[23:46] <sruli> TJ-: i use libvirt, but i created snapshot with qemu-img
[23:47] <physixer> as a matter of fact I'm think can I replace libc use completely with musl
[23:47] <k1l> physixer: the page there shows exactly what depencies that metapackage has got
[23:47] <physixer> *I'm thinking
[23:47] <TJ-> physixer: "apt-cache depends <package>"
[23:48] <TJ-> sruli: then the snapshot will be whatever file you gave to qemu-img
[23:48] <tag> TJ-, Nope
[23:48] <tag> TJ-, Not using vino or any other VNC agent
[23:48] <tag> TJ-, Nothing about infinite loops in syslog
[23:48] <TJ-> tag: I was more thinking of the diagnostic steps, specifically the last line "Running the xserver under gdb and/or strace can help identify the loop that the xserver is stuck in. "
[23:49] <tag> TJ-, My chip does have a dedicated GPU...OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) HD Graphics 5500 (Broadwell GT2)
[23:49] <tag> Ah
[23:49] <physixer> k1l: TJ-: but this doesn't help tell if the package is a metapackage. Which I 'assumed'. I'm also assuming a metapackage is one that only installs other packages but doesn't by itself provide anything necessary.
[23:49] <tag> perhaps I could do that
[23:51] <TJ-> physixer: right; I usually determine that indirectly by the 'Installed-Size" field value being very small
[23:52] <k1l> physixer: "Informational list of build-essential packages" it is just a metapackage, yes
[23:52] <drosophile> how to install steam on ubu 15.10 ?
[23:53] <SchrodingersScat> !info steam
[23:53] <SchrodingersScat> drosophile: sudo apt-get install steam # should get you there.  It will likely update immediately via steams servers.
[23:54] <drosophile> ok thank you , I'll try
[23:55] <sruli> TJ-: please see my command and output from creating the snapshot paste.ubuntu.com/14059785
[23:56] <Gibstick> Should I be concerned if ureadahead barfs out Error retrieving chunk extents: Operation not supported in my syslog a lot of times?
[23:58] <TJ-> sruli: you mentioned XML; that's a libvirt thing, so you'd need to look at the libvirt/virsh docs
[23:58] <sruli> TJ-: i thought qemu also uses xml, where does qemu store the snapshot ?
[23:59] <TJ-> sruli: where'ever you created it with qemu-image


[09:19] <purezen> Hey guys..!! I am planning to get the Samsung ARM chromebook to run Ubuntu.. would that be worth doing..??
[09:19] <purezen> Any limitations I might face...?
[10:14] <infinity> purezen: We don't officially (or unofficially) support it, and don't ship a kernel or installer for it, but several people are using it nonetheless.  hrw is a good person to ask about it.
[10:24] <mvt007geek> well...i am downloaded an ubuntu-12.04-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+omap4 .then i used "dd" to write image on sdcard.after that i connected sdcard to pandaboard.my pandaboard has a monitor connected to it.but it seems monitor is not working.so i decided to test pandaboard to make sure it is working well or not and i downloaded "validation" from pandasite.then i used "dd" to wrote validation on pandaboard but it need a serial port to show me the results
[10:36] <mvt007geek> my serial port seems not work
[10:40] <infinity> mvt007geek: How did you write the image?
[10:41] <infinity> mvt007geek: "zcat ubuntu-whatever.img.gz | sudo dd of=/dev/sdb bs=4M"
[10:41] <mvt007geek>    	 	 	 	 	 	    dd if=ubuntu-12.04-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap4.img of=/dev/sdb
[10:42] <infinity> Oh, you unzipped it first?  So you have a huge image sitting on your hard drive?
[10:42] <infinity> Also, that paste says armel, not armhf.
[10:43] <infinity> Which is kinda impossible, we had no armel images for 12.04
[10:43] <mvt007geek> infinity: complete name is ubuntu-12.04-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+omap4    this is what i downloaded from site and also did checksum on it
[10:44] <infinity> That's not the complete name.  Does it end in .img or .img.gz?
[10:45] <mvt007geek> yes. .img after zipping///////.img.gz befor zipping
[10:45] <infinity> Alright, there's no reason that shouldn't work, then.  Works here just fine.
[10:46] <infinity> Using the HDMI port closest to the USB (not the other one).
[10:47] <mvt007geek> ok
[10:47] <mvt007geek> i did
[10:47] <mvt007geek> before
[10:47] <infinity> Anyhow, you really should plug something into the serial and have a look.
[10:48] <infinity> Even with our images, the early boot outputs to serial.
[10:48] <infinity> Since uBoot has no idea how to turn on the HDMI.
[10:49] <mvt007geek> which one i use? minicom?kermit? or picocom
[10:49] <mvt007geek> ?
[10:49] <infinity> I use screen.
[10:50] <infinity> screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200
[10:50] <mvt007geek> right now i installed it.
[10:50] <mvt007geek> and..
[10:52] <mvt007geek> i use a usb to serial cable.one head connected to pc number1 another head to pc number2
[10:52] <mvt007geek> infinity: screen is installed in pc1
[10:52] <infinity> So do I.  Hence why I said /dev/ttyUSB0
[10:53] <mvt007geek> what command i should use for screen?
[10:53] <mvt007geek> i am so strange to screen
[10:54] <infinity> "screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200"
[10:54] <infinity> I feel like I might be repeating myself.
[10:55] <mvt007geek> well.i did that command.what is next step?
[10:56] <infinity> Plug in your Panda's power? :P
[10:57] <mvt007geek> now serial port is into pc number2 as i told.shoud i plug it out?
[10:57] <infinity> Err.  I assumed "pc2" was your Panda...
[10:57] <infinity> Which would sort of make some sense if you intend to talk to the Panda via serial.
[10:59] <mvt007geek> no problem i will connect it to panda :)
[11:05] <mvt007geek> i did this.what is next step
[11:06] <mvt007geek> infinity:
[11:07] <infinity> ...
[11:08] <mvt007geek> infinity: screen shows me nothing.
[11:08] <mvt007geek> only white page
[11:08] <infinity> What did it say when you ran it?
[11:08] <mvt007geek> screen??
[11:08] <mvt007geek> screen told nothing
[11:08] <infinity> Just an empty screen with a blinking cursor?
[11:09] <infinity> If so, that's fine.
[11:09] <infinity> So, make sure the SD card is in your Panda, pull the power, and plug the power back in.
[11:09] <infinity> You should seem some uBoot output.  And it loading a kernel.
[11:09] <infinity> Etc.
[11:10] <mvt007geek> still nothing :(
[11:10] <infinity> Jigge the card, reseat it, power-cycle again.
[11:11] <infinity> If it doesn't even see uBoot, you've either written the image wrong or your card is bad, or your Panda is broken.
[11:12] <mvt007geek> no.it shows nothing. let's try pcnumber2
[11:12] <mvt007geek> should i reboot that pc again?
[11:12] <infinity> Erm.
[11:12] <infinity> The Pandaboard, nor your PC.
[11:12] <infinity> s/nor/not/
[11:13] <mvt007geek> what?
[11:14] <mvt007geek> infinity: u mean i don't connect pc2 to pc1?
[11:25] <purezen> infinity: Hey..!! thanks there..:) ok.. I particularly needed some headers to get it working and its current state..
[11:25] <infinity> purezen: I'm not much help, since I don't own one and have thus not been paying attention but, like I said, hrw might be of help.
[11:26] <infinity> Or his blog may have pointers, if you dig.
[11:26] <infinity> http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/
[11:27] <purezen> infinity: well.. thanks for that.. and right right now he doesnt look available.. shall I pm him..?
[11:28] <infinity> purezen: I'm not his secretary, I can't say.  But sure, go nuts. :P
[11:28] <infinity> (Do read the Chromebook entries in his blog, though, he may answer some of your questions there)
[11:29] <kulve> how do you set the IP for usb0 for nexus7 with g_multi?
[11:29] <kulve> I might copy the same logic for my rootfs
[11:31] <purezen> infinity: ok.. :D :D .. will do that.. thanks again..:)
[12:01] <wookey> xnox: I tried using dh_autoreconf but it doesn't seem to work. just do "dh  $@  --with-autoreconf", right? Doesn;t work for json-c for me
[12:02] <wookey> http://people.linaro.org/~wookey/buildd/raring-arm64/json-c_0.10-1.2-raring-arm64-20130120-1050.log
[12:02] <wookey> what am I doing wrong?
[12:04] <infinity> wookey: "--with autoreconf"
[12:04] <infinity> wookey: No dash.
[12:07] <infinity> wookey: "--wish-autoreconf" isn't a dh(1) option, so it'll just pass it down to all the sub-dh modules (as you see it doing).
[12:08] <infinity> wookey: "--with foo,bar,baz", however, means "include dh_foo, dh_bar, and dh_baz in the list of fancy things you do"
[12:08] <infinity> s/wish/with/
[12:09] <wookey> aha. cheers
[12:09] <wookey> doh
[13:21] <mvt007geek> what is the best way to write an arm image (ubuntu) into sdcard?
[13:22] <mvt007geek> i used dd but serial port doesn't show it and it don't boot when i put sdcard in pandaboard. is there a good software to do that?
[14:20] <cobalt60> mvt007geek welcome to the wonderful world of Linux on ARM
[14:22] <robclark> rsalveti (or anyone), I don't suppose there is a working gnome-shell somewhere for 12.10?  http://pastie.org/pastes/5735819/text
[14:48] <Rjs> kulve: my solution to setting the IP is to have something like this in /etc/network/interfaces: auto usb0\niface usb0 inet static\n  address <IP_ADDRESS>\n  netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:49] <Rjs> (possibly also set gateway <IP_ADDRESS> if you want a default route through it - I mostly just use a http proxy on the same 10.1.2.x network so a default route is not needed)
[14:52] <Rjs> and I have something similar on the computer(s) that I connect the nexus7 to: iface usb0 inet static\n  address <IP_ADDRESS>\n  netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:54] <kulve> Rjs: thanks but my rootfs (Mer based) doesn't parse /etc/network/interfaces. I'm looking for e.g. udev rules that run a script when usb0 emerges
[14:56] <lilstevie> kulve: you should probably ask Mer support
[14:58] <Rjs> kulve: hmm, at least for me the interface seems to exist all the time after the gadget driver is loaded, regardless of whether the usb port is connected to something not - so maybe you might as well run the script just once after the driver is loaded
[15:00] <Rjs> (as long as you don't set a default gateway, it shouldn't be a problem that the extra interface is up even though it isn't connected to anything - except that the IP network you configure for it it should be private enough that it doesn't clash with anything you use elsewhere)
[15:01] <Rjs> at least I haven't had any problems with this kind of setup on my openmoko gta02 (whose g_ether gadget driver also behaves like that)...
[15:02] <kulve> basically I need to make sure that the script that loads the g_multi is run before the script that sets up the IP. That's why an udev based thing would have been nice
[15:03] <kulve> but nm, I'm sure I'll find something from the google :)
[15:09] <Rjs> ok :) I've not done much with udev so I'm not quite sure how it works... from a quick glance, I think that debian stable (which I happen to be using now) has a rule in /lib/udev/rules.d/80-drivers.rules to run /lib/udev/net.agent which is a shell script that runs ifup or ifdown as necessary
[15:09] <Rjs> maybe Mer has something similar, I don't know...
[15:09] <kulve> maybe this could work: "KERNEL=="usb0", ACTION=="add", RUN+="ifconfig usb0 <IP_ADDRESS> up"
[15:09] <kulve> bbl
[16:12] <_Takashi_> Hi, just flash the latest raring on a nexus7, the screen isnt't drawn correctely at all and it's stuck at system config, does anyone else had the same problem. Thanks in advance .
[17:33] <magart> Anyone here using Ubuntu on their Nexus 7?
[17:34] <Tassadar> magart: I think you can presume that at least one of 146 people on this channel does
[17:34] <Tassadar> :)
[17:36] <magart> ;)) I'm looking for a way to solve the touch problem. Basically whatever you touch, the OS then sticks to it so you can't switch between windows or click some buttons.
[17:37] <magart> Also it would be nice to know if there's a place where a changelog is kept so I know what was changed each day (because there is a new image every day).
[17:38] <Tassadar> well, the thing with touch is known and reported bug in X - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7/+bug/1068994
[17:38] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1068994 in ubuntu-nexus7 "button1 gets stuck after a while" [Critical,Confirmed]
[17:56] <magart> how can you enable meatcity on Nexus 7?
[17:56] <magart> I meant metacity* :)
[18:50] <cobalt60> Metacity?  How about IceWM-Lite?
[18:51] <cobalt60> or OpenBox if you prefer GUI config tools
[19:02] <magart> Yea...whatever. How do you enable them?
[19:02] <Tassadar> just install them like on normal desktop ubuntu I would guess
[19:13] <robclark> anyone know what package /usr/bin/jockey-gtk is in?  dpkg-query -L jocky-gtk only lists /usr/share/doc/... for me
[19:14] <robclark> (not sure if that is anything to do with why gnome-session --session=ubuntu doesn't work for me.. but that is one thing it complains about.. fwiw compiz itself does work)
[19:37] <robclark> oh, hm. nm, I think I see the issue..


[11:09] <seb128> mlankhorst, hey, did you see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1056511/comments/10 ?
[11:26] <xclaesse> Hello there :)
[11:27] <xclaesse> any idea why I don't have GLX inside Xephyr on ubuntu?
[11:27] <xclaesse> I just do "Xephyr :2" and then "DISPLAY=:2 glxinfo" and it says: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[11:28] <xclaesse> on debian/fedora it works
[11:34] <mlankhorst> seb128: hm now I do
[11:40] <seb128> mlankhorst, cool
[11:40] <seb128> mlankhorst, tjaalton: do you have any idea about the Xephyr question from xclaesse?
[11:41] <mlankhorst> the kwin bug seemed to have a followup since it broke some other situation
[22:16] <bryceh> RAOF, when you get in, can you bump the two experimental drivers in precise NEW?  I'd at least like to get those into proposed before I send out the steam keys
[22:26] <RAOF> bryceh: Huh. Why are they in NEW?
[22:26]  * RAOF checks
[22:32] <bryceh> well fglrx is legitimately in there.  nvidia dunno
[22:33] <RAOF> Yeah, accepted fglrx
[22:33] <mlankhorst> btw I finally got around spending some time on my vdpau side project again http://testbot.winehq.org/~mlankhorst/visuals.png
[22:51] <mlankhorst> gnight :)
[23:31] <Sarvatt> mlankhorst: I was about to ask why you didn't link the pic of it working, then G+.. :)
[23:32] <mlankhorst> :P
[23:33] <mlankhorst> kernel bits should be easy to upload, extracting firmware correctly is the big pain
[23:33] <mlankhorst> s/upload/upstream/


[13:39] <AlanBell> hi all
[13:40] <AlanBell> as I am now an Ubuntu member apparently I can have an IRC cloak. I didn't know I wanted one of these, or what one was. Is there any information on why such a thing would be desireable?
[13:41] <bazhang> AlanBell, do you have a link to your launchpad page
[13:41] <AlanBell> http://launchpad.net/~alan-dominux
[13:43] <tsimpson> AlanBell: for general information on the cloak, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks and check the difference between /whois AlanBell, and /whois tsimpson
[13:45] <AlanBell> thanks, I think I understand now.
[13:46] <AlanBell> ok, so can I have one please?
[13:47] <Pici> AlanBell: Do you have an email address tied to your nickserv account? /msg nickserv info    will tell you (I don't need to know what it is, just that its there)
[13:47] <AlanBell> yes I do
[13:48] <Pici> AlanBell: Okay, one moment then
[13:53] <Pici> AlanBell: You're all set. Congrats again :)
[13:54] <AlanBell> so I am! thanks :-)
[15:18] <ebel> We are looking for a lost child, I wonder if anyone can help get the little feller back
[15:18] <ebel> His name is ubotu and he was last seen in the #ubuntu-ie channel.
[15:18] <ebel> But he's not there anymore :(
[15:18] <czajkowski> aloha
[15:19] <niko> hi
[15:19] <Pici> ebel: Was it ubottu or one of the other ubot# clones?
[15:19] <ebel> Pici: ubot3 IIRC
[15:19] <czajkowski> Pici: which bot does the logging ?
[15:19] <Pici> czajkowski: ubuntulog
[15:19] <Pici> czajkowski: or locobot_# for loco channels
[15:19] <ebel> we had ubot3
[15:19] <ebel> http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/2009/11/01/%23ubuntu-ie.html See there he is at the start
[15:19] <czajkowski> Pici: are loco channels required to be logged do you know
[15:20] <Pici> ebel: awww.  Okay, let me see what I can do.
[15:20] <Pici> czajkowski: I don't know actually.
[15:21] <czajkowski> Pici: trying to find that out
[15:21] <ebel> Pici: thanks :)
[15:21] <ebel> I can't remember when ubot* was last there, but it was there recently.
[15:24] <ibuclaw> Hi, I got a successful application to become an Ubuntu Member yesterday, and have been advised that I can update my cloak here.
[15:24] <ibuclaw> This is my LP page: https://launchpad.net/~tinivole
[15:24] <niko> Pici: o^
[15:24] <Pici> aye aye
[15:26] <ebel> hey ibuclaw  :)
[15:26] <ibuclaw> hey ebel :)
[15:27] <Pici> ibuclaw: We normally setup users with ubuntu/member/$ircaccount your's is set to tinivole. Is that what you wanted, if not, please use /msg nickserv set accountname ibuclaw
[15:28] <ibuclaw> okie, thanks - I'll do that.
[15:29] <ibuclaw> Pici, done.
[15:29] <Pici> niko: could you please setup ibuclaw with ubuntu/member/ibuclaw ?
[15:30] <niko> yes
[15:30] <niko> done
[15:31] <Pici> ibuclaw: Congrats! you're all set.
[15:32] <ibuclaw> thank you kindly Pici niko
[15:32] <niko> you're welcome
[15:32] <ibuclaw> just close/re-open I take it.
[15:32] <czajkowski> Pici: were you to set up a RT and cc me for a logging bot in -ngo ?
[15:32] <Pici> czajkowski: I did.
[15:32] <czajkowski> didnt get any email :(
[15:34] <ibuclaw> thanks again.
[15:34] <Pici> czajkowski: https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=8553
[15:36] <czajkowski> Pici: thank you
[15:39] <Pici> ebel: I've sent something out to the person who hosts that bot. Hopefully he'll get back to me soon. If not, we can get one of the other bot clones into the channel.
[15:39] <czajkowski> Pici: thanks for your help with this
[15:40] <ebel> Cool.
[17:02] <czajkowski> _marx_: aloha :)
[17:02] <_marx_> hey
[17:03] <_marx_> hum, i have a log of this channel from when we switched the names around
[17:03] <czajkowski> _marx_: you may want to start off by saying which channel :)
[17:04] <_marx_> yep it was ages ago, ubuntu-northcarolina > ubuntu-us-nc
[17:06] <Pici> Okay? What seems to be the issue?
[17:06]  * _marx_ from nc loco team and want to get the locobot in our channel
[17:08] <Pici> _marx_: Go ahead and email a request to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>indicating that you'd like #ubuntu-us-nc logged.
[17:09] <Pici> I'm actually going to check with them if they'd like us (IRC Council) to manage the logging requests in the future.
[17:09] <_marx_> thanks Pici will do
[17:10] <Pici> Do any of you think we should be managing the requests for channel logging and getting those to the proper contacts?
[17:10] <Pici> wrong channel :P
[17:10] <Pici> er
[17:24] <_marx_> one more question: where's the fine manual for adding ops to a channel?
[17:25] <mkv> /msg chanserv help flags
[17:25] <mkv> _marx_: ^
[17:25] <Pici> _marx_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/CreatingChannels See the part about populating the channel access list
[17:26]  * _marx_ looking
[18:00] <czajkowski> _marx_: did you get sorted?
[18:01] <_marx_> yes czajkowski
[18:02] <czajkowski> _marx_: excellent
[18:02] <_marx_> seems like there was something else but it's not coming to me now
[18:03] <czajkowski> _marx_: the locobot and the ops ?


[08:51] <neo31> Hello world!
[08:52] <neo31> ahla nzoueidi
[09:48] <nzoueidi> neo31, mansada9ech
[12:48] <neo31> nzoueidi, sadda9 aw la tousadda9 :p
[12:49] <neo31> nzoueidi, some bots are missing btw. winou elacheche w some other bots :p
[12:50] <nzoueidi> hahaha elacheche is busy working, he is not here often