[21:08] <induz> i do have gmail account though
[21:08] <kosmarnik> python-setuptools is giving me trouble:  easy_install --prefix /usr/local pyrocore gets me an error message: TEST FAILED: /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages does NOT support .pth files error: bad install directory or PYTHONPATH... running this under root
[21:08] <WaltherFI> svm_invictvs: system - administration - nvidia xserver settings
[21:08] <svm_invictvs> Does *anybody* actually know this?
[21:08] <WaltherFI> svm_invictvs: full gui
[21:08] <tuna-fish> gobbe: missed the dot
[21:08] <kosmarnik> IDK what should I use for PYTHONPATH, or how to set it. meh easyInstall fail
[21:08] <tuna-fish> gobbe: it was 12.2MB/s
[21:08] <gobbe> tuna-fish: ok. well, is it point to point connection or thru switch?
[21:09] <svm_invictvs> WaltherFI: Okay....except for the fact that that tool complains about not having the actual driver installed
[21:09] <tuna-fish> gobbe: point to point
[21:09] <WaltherFI> svm_invictvs: which driver did you install and how?
[21:09] <gobbe> tuna-fish: and link is gigabit?
[21:09] <tuna-fish> gobbe: there appears to be two tx lights on the server ethernet card, one for 10/100 and one for 1000gbit, only the 10/100 is on
[21:10] <milamber> eoss: basic emacs: http://www.med.nyu.edu/rcr/rcr/course/unix8.html   if you are having trouble w/ emacs, try nano
[21:10] <gobbe> tuna-fish: well, it's 100 mbit for somereason
[21:10] <tuna-fish> gobbe: how can I find out? all the hardware should be gigabit capable
[21:10] <svm_invictvs> WaltherFI: Um....the latset from the Ubuntu SOftware Center
[21:10] <geekbri> does anybody know where ubunut stores sources when you do an apt-get sources install ?
[21:10] <gobbe> tuna-fish: put sudo /sbin/ifconfig -a to pastebin.ubuntu.com
[21:10] <eoss> so copy and paste isnt system based? it depends on the prog im using
[21:10] <WaltherFI> svm_invictvs: er, delete that, logout login, then go System - Administartion - Restricted divers ans select recommended
[21:11] <janisozaur> geekbri, I am not sure if that's what you want, but check /var/cache/apt/archives/
[21:11] <WaltherFI> svm_invictvs: then logout login and again to the settings
[21:11] <geekbri> janisozaur: thanks
[21:11] <trism> geekbri: apt-get source package_name; downloads and extracts the source to the current directory
[21:11] <milamber> eoss: for some (old) programs, yes.
[21:11] <geekbri> trism: ahh gotcha
[21:11] <gobbe> tuna-fish: also would be interesting to know what kind of disks you have in workstation and server
[21:11] <milamber> eoss: is there a reason you have to use a terminal based editor?
[21:12] <svm_invictvs> WaltherFI: REstricted drivers does not appear under system administration
[21:12] <eoss> im new , dont know wat im doing
[21:12] <eoss> emacs seems cool
[21:12] <WaltherFI> svm_invictvs: additional it is, sorry
[21:12] <WaltherFI> svm_invictvs: they've changed it some day, sorry
[21:12] <induz> is there any offline calender to keep appointemnst
[21:12] <janisozaur> eoss, emacs is powerful. and to tame its functions you'll have to learn how to use it. if you just want simple editor, try nano, mcedit...
[21:12] <svm_invictvs> WaltherFI: Okay, ti says the driver is activated and currently in use :(
[21:12] <milamber> eoss: emacs is cool and very powerful, but it does have a learning curve. for basic editing with a gui (graphical user interface) you can use gedit
[21:13] <WaltherFI> svm_invictvs: hmm
[21:13] <eoss> ok im writing C code
[21:13] <kosmarnik> hI can haz halp withpython easyinstall?
[21:13] <WaltherFI> svm_invictvs: there's something gone wrong apparently
[21:13] <nothingspecial> bencahill: Oh, forgot the most important thing (yet this depends on X also). Once you have sshed in, type export DISPLAY=:0.0    now everything will be displayed on the remote box, sound will come from it, and your keyboard will control it
[21:13] <eoss> does gedit help with c code
[21:13] <geekbri> trism: yu
[21:13] <geekbri> trism: ty
[21:13] <WaltherFI> eoss: it has hilighting at least
[21:13] <tuna-fish> gobbe: the disks are old, but local test says that both are capable of more than 40MB/sec
[21:13] <tuna-fish> gobbe: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/553341/
[21:13] <janisozaur> eoss, you can have syntax highlighting
[21:13] <svm_invictvs> WaltherFI: Which version, I have the 96 drivers
[21:13] <WaltherFI> eoss: also, there are a lot of plugins for gedit
[21:14] <svm_invictvs> WaltherFI: :(
[21:14] <eoss> ok thx guys
[21:14] <WaltherFI> svm_invictvs: erm, that's old
[21:14] <tuna-fish> gobbe: I think I just realized -- there's a br0 bridging the gbit card with a 100Mbit one. Does this cause it to go slow?
[21:14] <svm_invictvs> WaltherFI: Let me run the updates
[21:14] <janisozaur> eoss, but if you want to really program in C, you'll want an ide like kdevelop, qtcreator, eclipse, netbeans, to name a few
[21:14] <eoss> im using gcc its cool
[21:14] <alaing> anyone know if phpmyadmin uses a different port to the normally port 80
[21:14] <janisozaur> eoss, gcc != editor
[21:14] <gobbe> tuna-fish: can
[21:15] <milamber> alaing: no
[21:15] <eoss> true im using gcc combined with emacs i will try one of those IDEs
[21:15] <puff> eoss: emacs has pretty good integration with both gcc and gdb.
[21:15] <Ed_Money> I'm a newb to linux and coding and am looking for an Open Source project to join to get some experience working with other coders. Recommend a good open source project for a newb?
[21:15] <puff> eoss: Ah, but I see you've already found the One True Way of Emacs :-).
[21:15] <alaing> hmmmm why cant i access phpmyadmin from another machine on my network. its not being logged in my error.log as access denied
[21:15] <eoss> hehe
[21:15] <janisozaur> puff, any links, howtos, etc? i'd like to try it myself
[21:15] <milamber> eoss: are you trying to program gui or cli?
[21:15] <tuna-fish> gobbe: do you know how could I fix this?
[21:16] <eoss> right now cli stuff
[21:16] <puff> janisozaur: emacs/gcc/gdb?
[21:16] <janisozaur> puff, yup
[21:16] <puff> eoss: Semi-seriously, some of the IDEs can be really nice... I always go back to emacs, but there are some conveniences.
[21:16] <eoss> right now in emacs i can write inside of it, and save it
[21:16] <puff> janisozaur: Hm, that's been around forever... lemme check google.
[21:16] <puff> eoss: Oh, you're new at emacs?  Well, there's definitely a bit of a learning curve.
[21:17] <eoss> yea im new to linux too
[21:17] <janisozaur> puff, though I'm a bit used to vi (which I know can have ctags integrated, but never cared enough to set it up)
[21:17] <eoss> started last week
[21:17] <WaltherFI> eoss: check gedit
[21:17] <edbian> puff eoss I am writing an IDE with a friend of mine right now.  What do you like in an IDE?  What would you make different about them?
[21:17] <WaltherFI> eoss: a lot easier
[21:17] <WaltherFI> !ot | edbian
[21:17] <edbian> oops, sorry
[21:17] <janisozaur> edbian, we'd like them to write code for us ;)
[21:17] <milamber> edbian: getting something to work w/ gtk/pkg-configure out of the box
[21:17] <eoss> i dunno im using gcc not an ide, but when i used an ide before i liked simplicity the best, i never use half the tools but thats because im a noob
[21:17] <calliscope> #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:18] <puff> janisozaur: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/782770/beginners-guide-for-setting-up-emacs-with-gcc-gdb
[21:18] <puff> edbian: Might be better to carry the discussion on some other channel.
[21:18] <edbian> puff: I'm going to ubuntu-offtopic right now
[21:18] <puff> Cool.
[21:18] <janisozaur> puff, thanks, will see to that once I have time
[21:18] <bencahill> nothingspecial: thanks, i'll see if i can come up with something :)
[21:18] <puff> janisozaur: Also see http://cslibrary.stanford.edu/107/
[21:19] <guntbert> Ed_Money: try the same question in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:19] <svm_invictvs> WaltherFI: Well.  A reboot seems to have corrected it aall after a system update
[21:19] <WaltherFI> svm_invictvs: :)
[21:20] <svm_invictvs> WaltherFI: Cheers mate
[21:20] <WaltherFI> svm_invictvs: the nvidia GUI is very self-evident, dual is very easy to set up nowadays
[21:20] <WaltherFI> svm_invictvs: i recall myself making .xorg.confs to make it work back then... it was horrible
[21:20] <LuciusMare> Hello, I am using maverick, and when I edit a file with openshot, the audio and video go out of sync - how to prevent that?
[21:21] <Jemt> Hi. It seems mkfs.vfat created FAT16 partition (according to Ubuntu's installer). Can I format it as FAT32 ?
[21:21] <svm_invictvs> WaltherFI: Does it need to be run as root?
[21:21] <Jemt> .. using a command line tool
[21:22] <WaltherFI> svm_invictvs: no
[21:22] <genii-around> Jemt: mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/whatever-partition
[21:22] <svm_invictvs> TWinView is what?
[21:22] <svm_invictvs> That's a mirroring?
[21:22] <Jemt> genii-around: Fantastic, thank you :)
[21:22] <WaltherFI> svm_invictvs: no, twinview is dual monitor
[21:23] <WaltherFI> svm_invictvs: you can then select what it shows
[21:23] <nothingspecial> bencahill: **offtopic - a bit** are you aware of this http://kmandla.wordpress.com/
[21:23] <genii-around> Jemt: You're welcome
[21:23] <svm_invictvs> Double Fisted
[21:23] <WaltherFI> svm_invictvs: pick the TwinView, then select Right of, left of, above, below, or clones; whatever suits you
[21:25] <bencahill> nothingspecial: no, why?
[21:26] <WaltherFI> time for me to ask a question: any zen-coding -like plugins for gedit to write css faster?
[21:26] <agent> hello everyone
[21:27] <agent> does anyone here have a great WPA wordlist file
[21:28] <guntbert> agent: are you talking about brute force attacks?
[21:28] <agent> wordlists are extremely hard to find on the internet
[21:28] <agent> yes only for ethical hacking
[21:28] <rumpe1> agent, i have mine stored in /dev/urandom ^^
[21:28] <guntbert> agent: that is not welcome here
[21:28] <agent> I'm am doing this for a security audit
[21:28] <inashdeen> is canon ip880 supported on ubuntu?
[21:29] <WaltherFI> agent: probably because the people who make those know how to hidwe it from google etc
[21:29] <WaltherFI> inashdeen: most probably yes
[21:29] <WaltherFI> inashdeen: is it a camera or printer or what
[21:29] <Vhozard> HE was pretending to be girl so he can get better 'items' in World of warcraft(lot of nerds love girls). HE met another Girl. Turns out she was lesbian. They were best friends and cybering for 6 months(lol). One day she told him there is something important to tell him. He thought they she want to meet him irl. Turns out 'She' was a guy. :O < his face when he found out they were 2 guys cybering for 6 months
[21:29] <shcherbak> agent: aspell, and some imagination
[21:29] <WaltherFI> inashdeen: ubuntu supports most printers and cameras out of the box, without the need of drivers
[21:29] <j-invariant> Vhozard: hehe
[21:30] <alaing> oh do i see any error/warnings that appear when ubuntu is booting
[21:30] <WaltherFI> inashdeen: and canon also has very wide driver catalogues online
[21:30] <rww> Vhozard: I'm hoping you accidentally sent that to the wrong channel :\
[21:30] <Vhozard> rww yeah -_-
[21:30] <guntbert> Vhozard: was has that to do with ubuntu support?
[21:30] <inashdeen> printer
[21:30] <Vhozard> Control+V mistake, forgive me :)
[21:30] <WaltherFI> inashdeen: it is going to work like charm
[21:30] <nothingspecial> bencahill: because, if you like cli only installations, that guy is the best. Learnt more from him than anyone.
[21:30] <alaing> how do I see any error/warnings that appear when ubuntu is booting. I know there is one about apache not finding a name or something
[21:30] <inashdeen> canon has the worst driver support on ubuntu
[21:31] <WaltherFI> inashdeen: not actually, it was something like drivers.canon-europe.com
[21:31] <guntbert> alaing: look into /var/log  (either boot...  or syslog...)
[21:31] <WaltherFI> inashdeen: ready .debs and stuff
[21:31] <alaing> guntbert: thanks let me have a look
[21:31] <WaltherFI> inashdeen: also, try plugging it in and checkin System - Administration or Preferences - Printing
[21:32] <WaltherFI> inashdeen: there's a 90% chance it'll work well after you configure it with a few easy steps there
[21:32] <inashdeen> next q, y do usb modem always being grumpy on ubuntu. i mean, sometimes u can connect like a breeze. the next thing u know, u had to shut down or restart again n again to get it running?
[21:32] <guntbert> alaing: a hint for looking through those: a file manager for CLI is useful - I use mc
[21:32] <guntbert> !u | inashdeen
[21:33] <alaing> sorry what does CLI stand for
[21:33] <nothingspecial> alaing: command line interface
[21:33] <shiv> command line interface
[21:34] <guntbert> alaing: (like terminal)
[21:34] <inashdeen> anyone?
[21:34] <alaing> oh ok
[21:34] <WaltherFI> inashdeen: it happens on suspend
[21:34] <alaing> where can i find mc
[21:34] <WaltherFI> inashdeen: otherwise they work fine
[21:34] <guntbert> !info mc | alaing
[21:34] <alaing> I'm just using the gui at the moment
[21:34] <WaltherFI> inashdeen: but recovering modems and audio devices after suspend is buggy
[21:34] <guntbert> alaing: sudo apt-get install mc
[21:35] <alaing> ok busy installing
[21:35] <alaing> done how do i access it
[21:35] <Nach0z> Can someone help me with this? one of my  terminal users isn't showing any of the color codes for files when I do ls
[21:36] <Nach0z> it's showing the exact same output as "dir"
[21:36] <guntbert> alaing: in the CLI type:  mc (and look at the bottom for useful F keys)
[21:37] <alaing> brillant does this work if if use putty?
[21:37] <guntbert> alaing: of course
[21:37] <Vhozard> how can I setup ssh server on ubuntu?
[21:37] <shiv> mc
[21:38] <Vhozard> I want to be able to acces it from windows *putty)
[21:38] <alaing> oh man thats a brillan bit of software
[21:38] <bencahill> nothingspecial: okay, thanks :)
[21:38] <guntbert> Vhozard: sudo apt-get ssh
[21:38] <skullboy> anyone know where i can get Atlantis2
[21:38] <Vhozard> wow, guntbert youre so smart
[21:38] <Vhozard> I never thought of that
[21:38] <brontoeee> Vhozard, apt-get install ssh
[21:38] <guntbert> alaing: got you hooked ? :-)
[21:38] <Vhozard> -_-
[21:38] <trism> Nach0z: if you type: alias; in the terminal, do you have a line reading: alias ls='ls --color=auto'
[21:38] <Vhozard> After I installed ssh, THEN what do I do :)
[21:39] <alaing> most defiantly
[21:39] <guntbert> Vhozard: I beg your pardon? after installation it is runnung
[21:39] <guntbert> *running
[21:39] <alaing> I still looking for the apache error/warning that i see when i boot/shutdown
[21:39] <Nach0z> trism: typing alias into the terminal doesn't return anything.
[21:39] <Vhozard> guntbert The config files, where can I find them?
[21:39] <brontoeee> Vhozard, then you use putty
[21:40] <Vhozard> i.e. where do I set up the passwords and all
[21:40] <skullboy> anyone know where i can get Atlantis2 for compiz
[21:40] <guntbert> Vhozard: /etc/ssh
[21:40] <trism> Nach0z: that would do it, try: alias ls='ls --color=auto'; then try ls
[21:40] <Vhozard> I tried to ssh into my machine, but it would just time out
[21:40] <guntbert> Vhozard: and ~/.ssh
[21:40] <Vhozard> thats why I wanted to find the config files, to see whats wrong
[21:40] <Vhozard> Thanks, guntbert
[21:41] <brontoeee> Vhozard, ports
[21:41] <Vhozard> 21
[21:41] <Vhozard> 22
[21:41] <guntbert> Vhozard: first check if the ssh server is running
[21:41] <getBoa> Would someone help me out to recovery my ubuntu? It' s freezing on login screen after update via update-manager
[21:41] <Nach0z> trism: thanks
[21:42] <sandyd> getBoa: have you tried running dpkg in recovery mode?
[21:42] <trism> Nach0z: probably want to add that to the user's ~/.bashrc or similar
[21:42] <Vhozard> guntbert How can I easily restart the ssh server?
[21:42] <bastidrazor> Vhozard: sudo service ssh restart
[21:43] <getBoa> sandyd: recovery mode is freezing as well
[21:43] <sandyd> getBoa: try other kernels
[21:43] <bastidrazor> Nach0z: that should already be in your .bashrc if you have the default version
[21:43] <WaltherFI> getBoa: dpkg --reconfigure -a ?
[21:43] <erUSUL> Vhozard: sudo restart sshd
[21:43] <Vhozard> -d
[21:43] <Vhozard> :)
[21:44] <erUSUL> Vhozard: drop the final d ...
[21:44] <Cpt_Zyph> hey guys im looking for a free .ogv converter app .. see some windows apps and some pay for apps but im just dealing with a desktop recorder and i cant pick other save file formats..
[21:44] <sandyd> Cpt_Zyph: use ffmpeg
[21:44] <Cpt_Zyph> so figured i would just use a file converter but im not finding one.. or i have completly over looked it
[21:44] <Vhozard> Cpt_Zyph, Sound Converter
[21:44] <Cpt_Zyph> sound converter for video files?
[21:44] <erUSUL> Cpt_Zyph: winff ? arista?
[21:44] <Cpt_Zyph> sandyd thank you
[21:44] <Vhozard> I misread it as .ogg Sorry :)
[21:45] <getBoa> WaltherFI: unknown option --reconfigure
[21:45] <Cpt_Zyph> also is there a way to set the file format for "Desktop Recorder"
[21:45] <WaltherFI> getBoa: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[21:45] <sandyd> Cpt_Zyph: no, and I assume you mean gtk-recordmydesktop
[21:45] <Nach0z> bastidrazor thanks
[21:46] <Cpt_Zyph> sandyd ya
[21:46] <sandyd> Cpt_Zyph: it doesn't work with youtube on my end, and its a pain to convert to h264...
[21:47] <Cpt_Zyph> gtk-recordMyDesktop 0.3.8 ...
[21:47] <getBoa> WaltherFI: it hangs after this msg "No LSB modules are available"
[21:47] <Cpt_Zyph> sandyd do you know of a better application thats open soruce??
[21:47] <sandyd> try ffmpeg's xgrab :D
[21:47] <brontoeee> sanchaz-away, Cpt_Zyph ogv should play in firefox natively
[21:47] <WaltherFI> getBoa: then that's your problem
[21:47] <bastidrazor> Nach0z: you're welcome
[21:47] <WaltherFI> getBoa: sorry but i don't know about LSB modules
[21:47] <sandyd> Cpt_Zyph: try ffmpeg's xgrab*
[21:47] <Vhozard> Cpt_Zyph, You can record your desktop by a simple vlc grab command too
[21:48] <Vhozard> Cpt_Zyph, Google it
[21:48] <Cpt_Zyph> thank you
[21:48] <skullboy> what app can i use to hide my porn
[21:48] <getBoa> WaltherFI: ok, ty
[21:48] <thieven> skullboy, just rename the folder 'boring tax documents'
[21:48] <Vhozard> skullboy There is no need to hide porn. Its considered normal nowadays :)
[21:49] <skullboy> its for my brother
[21:49] <hukko> can anybody tell me how can i install ubuntu to macbook with usb stick
[21:49] <sandyd> skullboy: alright..... use truecrypt
[21:49] <getBoa> gezss that last update screwed up my entire system...
[21:50] <lesiak> Witam
[21:50] <WaltherFI> hukko: check ubuntu documentation
[21:50] <lesiak> Hello
[21:50] <WaltherFI> hukko: iirc, there's a whole tutorial somewhere
[21:50] <skullboy> samdyd: he browses the web what can he use to hide the windows
[21:51] <WaltherFI> getBoa: yeah, you've got some dependencies crashed it seems
[21:51] <hukko> and where can i fount this tutorial or this ubuntu documentaion
[21:51] <WaltherFI> getBoa: and dpkg-reconfig tries to solve them and usually does it very well
[21:51] <erUSUL> !apple | hukko
[21:51] <skullboy> samdyd: he dose not want to get kicked from his job
[21:51] <inashdeen> anyone had a solution on improving internet connection through the usb modem????
[21:51] <erUSUL> wrong factoid
[21:51] <WaltherFI> hukko: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[21:52] <getBoa> WaltherFI: yeah but it didn' twork for me... just can't bealive that I gotta reinstall everything again
[21:52] <sandyd> skullboy: then tell him don't browse it from work....
[21:52] <WaltherFI> getBoa: you shouldn't have to do that
[21:52] <WaltherFI> getBoa: just check the missing things
[21:53] <skullboy> samdyd: ok but he wants to hide the windows
[21:53] <thieven> you could kinda hide them with virtual desktops....
[21:54] <skullboy> samdyd: ok but he wants to hide the windows
[21:54] <bsmith093> how do i batch trim an avi
[21:54] <jamal> hello i am french and i use xchat but i want to speak in ubuntu fr channel could you help me?
[21:54] <WaltherFI> skullboy: virtual desktops. In default, there's four
[21:54] <Myrtti> !fr | jamal
[21:54] <jamal> thx
[21:54] <Myrtti> np
[21:54] <erUSUL> jamal: writte « /join #ubuntu-fr » without the «» and press enter
[21:55] <bsmith093> i have a bunch of avi clips that i want to trim the first ten seconds off, how do i do that?
[21:55] <jamal> think you very much
[21:55] <sandyd> bsmith093: check out avidemux
[21:55] <skullboy> samdyd: he knows that i knew that is there a way to bind a hotkey to hind the window
[21:55] <sandyd> bsmith093: or ffmpeg
[21:55] <nothingspecial> bsmith093: ffmpeg
[21:55] <pravin> is it possible to watch TV on ubuntu using the tv capture card installed  on my pci slot
[21:55] <erUSUL> bsmith093: a bunch as in too much to do it one by one?
[21:56] <bsmith093> erUSUL: yes
[21:56] <hukko> i have used and tryed this thing  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook but its always the same outcome black screen saying Operating system missing
[21:56] <erUSUL> pravin: if the tv card is supported it should be possible
[21:56] <bsmith093> i have avidemux but will it just trim or does it also reencode?
[21:56] <ddilinger> i installed ubuntu 10.10 on a dell vostro 1000 laptop.   The trackpad like many under windows supports scrolling by swiping the side of the trackpad, how can i enable that in ubuntu?
[21:56] <erUSUL> bsmith093: look on how to do it with ffmpeg or memcoder
[21:56] <sandyd> bsmith093: it also reencodes
[21:56] <sandyd> bsmith093: however, for batch trimming, ffmpeg is better
[21:57] <pravin> @erUSUL: how do I know if its supported or not .
[21:57] <erUSUL> pravin: look if you have the video devices « ls /dev/video* » ( webcams and others also use this devices )
[21:59] <skullboy> samdyd: he knows that i knew that is there a way to bind a hotkey to hind the window
[21:59] <pravin> @erUSUL: This was my output " http://paste.ubuntu.com/553361/ "
[21:59] <skullboy> samdyd: he knows that i knew that is there a way to bind a hotkey to hide the window
[22:01] <bholz> what is ubuntu one?
[22:01] <Tonus> !one
[22:01] <Claytonarvixe> what is the best way to burn an .iso in ubuntu and make it bootable?
[22:01] <Vhozard> Online storage service like Dropbox
[22:01] <Vhozard> ubuntu one  ^
[22:01] <erUSUL> pravin: http://www.westbound.co.za/node/14
[22:01] <bholz> OH ok - would dropbox be better though considering its X plat?
[22:01] <nothingspecial> bholz: snc all our computers, notes, bookmarks etc
[22:02] <erUSUL> Claytonarvixe: unetbootin ?
[22:02] <Claytonarvixe> erUSUL, excuse me?
[22:02] <Vhozard> bholz Yes, Dropbox is better
[22:02] <bholz> nothingspecial: provided they are running linux though, correct?
 what is the best way to burn an .iso in ubuntu and make it bootable?
[22:02] <bholz> vhozard: thank you, sir.
[22:02] <nothingspecial> bholz: I think
[22:02] <thieven> Claytonarvixe,  type sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[22:02] <erUSUL> Claytonarvixe: uetbootin is a program that takes an livecd iso and "burns" it to a usb to make it bootable
[22:02] <thieven> Claytonarvixe, that is a great program for putting iso's onto a usb key.
[22:03] <Claytonarvixe> That is not what I asked
[22:03] <getBoa> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: aptdaemon is broken or not fully installed
[22:03] <Claytonarvixe> I need to burn a dvd iso to a dvd and make sure its bootable
[22:03] <jetscreamer> what's the default/most supported gui package manager under ubuntu
[22:03] <Claytonarvixe> Its not linux
[22:03] <nothingspecial> bholz: I know they have tried to port a windows version
[22:03] <Claytonarvixe> jetlinkin, default is gnome
[22:03] <ddilinger> i installed ubuntu 10.10 on a dell vostro 1000 laptop.   The trackpad like many under windows supports scrolling by swiping the side of the trackpad, how can i enable that in ubuntu?
[22:03] <jocrawfo> hello everyone, for some odd reason there is a bug in my corporate packages which setup my VPN stuff, so when I connect to the VPN my default route is never set to send everything over the proxy in order to change the route i need to run a command a sudo, so I have to ask is there a way for a bash script to prompt the user with a GUI window?
[22:03] <gor> a channel of Ubuntu in spanish please?
[22:03] <jetscreamer> !es
[22:03] <jocrawfo> the script will run automatically when the VPN goes up and down which is why I ask
[22:03] <Claytonarvixe> thieven, i'm not trying to urn ubuntu.
[22:03] <sandyd> :jocrawfo: gksu
[22:03] <genii-around> Claytonarvixe: The iso file itself contains whatever files would allow the dvd to boot. There is no outside thing to do to make it so
[22:03] <induz> hello i m looking for offline calender
[22:03] <Laggg|CM7> what format does the USB drive have to be in order to install the linux iso onto it?
[22:04] <Laggg|CM7> Im getting an error when I try to install using the startup disc creator
[22:04] <Claytonarvixe> genii-around, can I then just use dd for the iso to burn right?
[22:04] <jetscreamer> big enough format
[22:04] <pravin> @erUSUL: I am kind of newbie so i dont understand the latter part
[22:04] <genii-around> Claytonarvixe: If you're at command-line then something like cdrecord, usually
[22:04] <erUSUL> pravin: try to follow the guide in the blog i posted
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> Laggg|CM7: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[22:05] <Claytonarvixe> genii-around, alright, what is a good gui program?
[22:05] <Laggg|CM7> Nope, but I got the DL right from Ubuntu.com or w/e
[22:05] <thieven> Claytonarvixe, it can burn lots of different iso's. not just ubuntu.
[22:05] <nothingspecial> Laggg|CM7: shouldn`t matter, did you try FAT
[22:05] <Claytonarvixe> thieven, what can?  the unetbootin thing?
 md5sum file_name
[22:05] <Laggg|CM7> let me try
[22:05] <Vhozard> see if its the same
[22:05] <genii-around> Claytonarvixe: For Gnome, Brasero usually
[22:06] <_numbers> anyone know why the mouse cursor disappears on one screen only since i upgraded ubuntu?
[22:06] <pravin> @erUSUL: i dont get the step 2
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> Laggg|CM7: where you get the file from is moot, it can still be garbaged in transmission
[22:06] <_numbers> im not sure what starts it but it happens rather frequently and i can only get it back by restarting the pc
[22:06] <jetscreamer> with ubuntu, what's the default/most supported (like supported in this channel, everybody knows all about it)  gui package manager
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> _numbers: do you use nvidia video drivers?
[22:06] <ubuntu_> anyone know their way around xrandr, specifically dual monitor support, and care to help?
[22:06] <Claytonarvixe> genii-around, then just have to figure out why brasero keeps crashing on me
[22:06] <_numbers> same as described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9806504&postcount=11
[22:06] <_numbers> ActionParsnip: yes
[22:07] <jetscreamer> !xrandr
[22:07] <shcherbak> jetscreamer: synaptic
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> _numbers: you may need to an in xorg.conf to use hwcursor or swcursor
[22:07] <jetscreamer> shcherbak: ah ok thankee
[22:07] <pravin> @erUSUL: i dont know how many ports to activate
[22:07] <erUSUL> pravin: you have to create a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ like this « gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/tvtunner.conf » ( run this in terminal ) then paste the 3 lines in cursive there
[22:07] <dennis77515> hi all
[22:07] <Claytonarvixe> genii-around, http://pastebin.com/RDzjFs3S
[22:08] <Claytonarvixe> why would it seg fault?
[22:08] <dennis77515> i have a question
[22:08] <pravin> @erUSUL: i'll try
[22:08] <erUSUL> pravin: the lines that start "alias ..." and "options ..."
[22:08] <Claytonarvixe> dennis77515, what is that question?  just ask
[22:08] <jocrawfo> sandyd, that will make a dialog come up prompting for the password and i can then use that with expect or something?
[22:08] <Claytonarvixe> dennis77515, thats why you re here
[22:08] <erUSUL> pravin: then save the file and close the editor
[22:08] <ubuntu_> would anyone know how to turn a mirrored display to an extended display using xrandr?
[22:08] <Laggg|CM7> checking
[22:08] <Laggg|CM7> i got an md5 sum
[22:09] <Laggg|CM7> how do I know if its the right one?
[22:09] <jetscreamer> mirrored==clone
[22:09] <dennis77515> how do i change the user settings for a vfat usb drive?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> !hashes | Laggg|CM7
[22:09] <ubuntu_> right, I do not want a cloned display
[22:09] <ubuntu_> :)
[22:09] <dennis77515> it mounts as root
[22:09] <ubuntu_> I'm using two different monitors
[22:09] <ubuntu_> shall I post my xrandr -q results?
[22:09] <pravin> @erUSUL: what do I do now
[22:10] <jetscreamer> i dunno
[22:10] <jetscreamer> !paste
[22:10] <genii-around> Claytonarvixe:Looks like probably  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/brasero/+bug/646902
[22:10] <Laggg|CM7> md5 is correct
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> dennis77515: try adding extra option like uid and other options
[22:10] <Laggg|CM7> must be the usb stick im using...
[22:10] <nothingspecial> dennis77515: You can`t, but you can mount it so
[22:10] <dennis77515> im not smart
[22:10] <Guest54491> i bet no one can hack<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:10] <Claytonarvixe> genii-around, whats another program like brasero for ubuntu?
[22:10] <dennis77515> in ubuntu 8 it worked ok
[22:11] <x64-vt> hi all
[22:11] <Laggg|CM7> i'll just burn a dvd
[22:11] <genii-around> Claytonarvixe: Since I am mostly in KDE, I tend to use K3b. You can also install it in regular Ubuntu
[22:11] <Claytonarvixe> k3b is good
[22:11] <_numbers> ctrl+alt+backspace not working in ubuntu 10.10?
[22:11] <Claytonarvixe> I couldn't remember the name
[22:11] <Claytonarvixe> thx
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> Laggg|CM7: ok, burn slowly then:)
[22:11] <ubuntu_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/553362/
[22:11] <Guest11941> where's the grub file config? I don't seem to have a /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:11] <Vhozard> _numbers Not by default
[22:11] <Vhozard> _numbers You have to enable it again via keyboard preferences
[22:11] <erUSUL> !grub2 | Guest11941
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> _numbers: you can re-enable it in keyboard settings
[22:11] <Claytonarvixe> genii-around, i could not remember that name, k3b
[22:12] <Claytonarvixe> That is the one I normally use
[22:12] <genii-around> Claytonarvixe: At the end of that bug report is also a fix for brasero (enable proposed repositories and update it)
[22:12] <ubuntu_> jetscreamer, was that of any use to you?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> !burner | Claytonarvixe
[22:13] <Vhozard> System --> Preferences --> Keyboard Preferences --> Lay-out --> Options --> Key sequence to kill X server --> CHECK Control+Alt+Backspace         _numbers
[22:13] <bouncing> MTA question: Is there a way I can have all local mail sent through a specific, authenticated SMTP account (like a gmail or similar account)?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> !cab
[22:14] <ubuntu_> not to be annoying or spammy or anything, but does anyone have experience with xrandr and extended displays (as opposed to cloned)?
[22:14] <ubuntu_> here's my xrandr -q
[22:14] <ubuntu_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/553362/
[22:15] <ubuntu_> is there anything else that'd help?
[22:15] <ubuntu_> I feel like it's a simple issue that I'm just not getting
[22:15] <ubuntu_> and forums have been almost helpful (just not quite enough)
[22:16] <acicula> ubuntu_: what xrandr command are you using?
[22:17] <nothingspecial> bencahill: because, if you like cli only installations, that guy is the best. Learnt more from him than anyone.
[22:17] <nothingspecial> nothingspecial: whoops
[22:17] <ubuntu_> acicula: isn't that information in my xrandr -q results?
[22:18] <acicula> ubuntu_: xrandr just gives you a list of whats connected and possible settings
[22:18] <acicula> ubuntu_: xrandr -q i mean
[22:18] <pravin_> erUSUL : I rebooted my computer but nothings changed
[22:18] <erUSUL> pravin_: :/ tthis is as far as i can go. i do not have a tv card myself ...
[22:18] <ubuntu_> acicula: how would I check to see what command was passed to it?
[22:19] <pravin_> ok, thanx anyway
[22:19] <acicula> ubuntu_: im confused, what are you trying to do?
[22:19] <Vhozard> Nautilus lists Directory size in "Items"
[22:19] <Vhozard> Any way to make it use "MiB" ?
[22:20] <leo_rockway> hello everyone
[22:20] <domin_> hi
[22:20] <DarkStar1> Hi all. Is Does anyone know of a database viewer that's very very similar Sequel Pro (Mac OSX) for ubuntu??
[22:20] <DarkStar1> I will be very very great
[22:20] <DarkStar1> grateful
[22:20] <DarkStar1> *
[22:20] <ZenMasta> SQLYog
[22:20] <ubuntu_> acicula: sorry. I have a laptop, and an external monitor. right now the display is cloned across both of them, but since their resolutions are mismatched (and I think cloned displays are a waste of electricity if nothing else), I'd like to extend one display across both monitors (not duplicate it!) :) thanks for helping so far
[22:21] <ZenMasta> DarkStar1 www.webyog.com
[22:21] <leo_rockway> I have this problem: I can ping a computer on my network using its name and it works fine, I can ping a website and that works fine, but when I try to wget anything from that website or if I try to do an apt-get update using the computer in the local network as apt proxy, then it fails to resolve the domain.
[22:21] <sandyd> ubuntu_: use xinerama
[22:21] <leo_rockway> why could it be that domain resolving fails for some things but not for others?
[22:21] <DarkStar1> ZenMasta: If it will allow me to connect to a remote dbase via SSH Then I am in AWE of your awesomeness
[22:22] <DarkStar1> ZenMasta: :D
[22:22] <acicula> ubuntu_: did you try setting resolution using the display tool? via xrandr you need to do something like xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1680x1050 --leftof LVDS1
[22:22] <Ganymede> Hello. I'm deploying a bunch of Ubuntu machines which are Kerberos/LDAP clients using a script that runs directly after installation of the OS. Upon installation of certain LDAP/Kerberos related packages, I get a blue dialog/prompt that asks me to enter in certain values (e.g. Kerberos realm, LDAP base.) Is there a way to skip those dialogs or automatically fill them out? The config files get set up via script afterwards anyway so the values ent
[22:22] <Ganymede> ered there are useless. The dialog does nothing but halts the automated script, waiting for user input.
[22:22] <acicula> id use the display tool though
[22:22] <bholzinger> Chatting on my newly installed Ubuntu :)
[22:22] <edbian> bholzinger: :)  You love it?  Any questions about how to use it?
[22:22] <Vhozard> Well
[22:23] <Vhozard> Any way to make Nautilus use MiB instead of "Items" as a directory size listening?
[22:23] <Leatha> can intalling icewm etc help performance on high memory machines? or is it pointless?
[22:23] <Bholzi> edbian: oh trust me I will! not as of yet.
[22:23] <Leatha> I have 1.9 turion with 4 gigs ram running ubuntu 10.10
[22:23] <ubuntu_> acicula: the display tool (I'm using lxde atm, so lxrandr) does not have the option for extended display. I tried grandr, which does have the option, and it failed
[22:24] <edbian> Bholzi: Just let us know!
[22:24] <erkan^> !media
[22:24] <erkan^> !codecs
[22:24] <ubuntu_> acicula: that command didn't change anything, it just returned the same results as --help
[22:24] <acicula> ubuntu_: ic
[22:24] <inashdeen> welcome bholzinger come have personal chat bout ubuntu, so bored being in the major, need somebody to talk too bout ub
[22:24] <Leatha> anyone know?
[22:24] <acicula> ubuntu_: probably the syntax is off, check the help page and verify the syntax is correct?
[22:24] <edbian> inashdeen: Bholzi We should go to ubuntu-offtopic if we wanna just chat
[22:25] <inashdeen> leatha, know what, if u dont mind?
[22:25] <ubuntu_> sandyd: isn't xinerama defunct?
[22:25] <trism> Ganymede: possibly something like this: http://www.ossramblings.com/preseed_your_apt_get_for_unattended_installs
[22:25] <dibblego> has anyone been able to get vmware workstation running on 64-bit 10.10?
[22:25] <Bholzi> edbian: im sorry, what?
[22:25] <edbian> Bholzi: Nevermind :)
[22:25] <Leatha> inashdeen: I have 1.9 turion x2 with 4 gigs ram, I want faster performance, is there a point to installing icewm etc on a system like mine?
[22:26] <acicula> ubuntu_: its --left-of
[22:26] <inashdeen> icewm?
[22:26] <acicula> or whatever option it is that you wanted
[22:26] <Leatha> inashdeen: I notice without gnome running my command line is very fast, but its sluggish in gnome etc... im trying to figure out how to improve performance
[22:26] <Ganymede> trism, Thanks. That looks pretty good. I wonder if that'll also get me past the Java license agreement...
[22:26] <Bholzi> edbian: I am completely new to linux - as in i have only seen and used it on paper and in mirrors - never had a direct OS installed. Very exciting time lol.
[22:26] <Leatha> inashdeen: yes or enlightenment or any fast window manager or desktop envirnment, is there a point on a machine with lots of memory etc
[22:27] <shcherbak> Leatha: Xmonad, i may risk and say is fastest.
[22:27] <edbian> Bholzi: I'm happy for you :)  Please let us know if you have any questions about how to use it.  That's the purpose of this channel
[22:27] <inashdeen> leatha: u can use lxde, xfce to replace gnome
[22:27] <inashdeen> those are the two lightweight
[22:27] <Leatha> inashdeen: will I see an improvement in performance?
[22:27] <ubnoob>  someone please help, i installed a finance program (skrooge) and when i click on the icons the windo jumps up, when i click again it jumps down- any ideas?
[22:27] <ubuntu_> acicula: http://paste.ubuntu.com/553367/ failed
[22:27] <DarkStar1> I'll ask again since Webyog was a complete total FAIL. Does anyone know of a database viewer that's very very similar Sequel Pro (Mac OSX) for ubuntu??
[22:28] <acicula> Leatha: only an increase in time spend getting stuff to work ;)
[22:28] <inashdeen> leatha: i had try icewm on puppylinux, it is kind of nice and light, if u really wanna try it, u can. but never heard running it in ub. of course, lxde and xfce are very light, depending on what kind of speed u wanna ur system goes, less effect means less eating on the ram
[22:28] <ubuntu_> acicula: do I pass separate resolution arguments to both displays (vga1, lvds1)?
[22:28] <acicula> no this just sets one device
[22:28] <Bholzi> edbian: Actually i do have a question, moving from 10.04 to 10.10... is that stable? and what are the advantages?
[22:29] <Leatha> well I have 4 gigs, my system never eats over a gig really unless I run virtualbox...
[22:29] <edbian> Bholzi: It is stable.  The advantages is newer software with more features (but probably the same amount of bugs)
[22:29] <ubuntu_> acicula: so it's one large virtual display? should I set it to 1680+1440x1050
[22:29] <Leatha> would it be more practical to get a faster processor?
[22:29] <edbian> Bholzi: 10.04 is probablys lightly more stable.  They are both very good though
[22:29] <acicula> ubuntu_: that might be it yeah
[22:29] <shcherbak> Leatha: or gpu...
[22:29] <VirusTB> anyone know a place whre i can practive making SQL TABLES and relationships betweenm the tables (foreign keys) for free online? without installing anything? with SQL scripts?
[22:29] <edbian> Bholzi: slightly, not lightly
[22:30] <Bholzi> edbian: i see. I was just curious.. i put in an update for 10.10 but i went from 9.10. I suppose you could say im in limbo!
[22:30] <ubuntu_> acicula: xrandr cannot find mode 3120x1050
[22:30] <inashdeen> leatha: running lxde and xfce wont hurt ur system. try it on. if u dont like, u can always goes back to gnome
[22:30] <trism> Ganymede: yes, seems like something similar should work: http://www.coreyhulen.org/?p=99
[22:31] <Leatha> ok, I will try and see how it goes, thanks for your replys everyone
[22:31] <edbian> Bholzi: Eventually you will become out of date if you don't update but you have plenty of time to sit on a release if you want
[22:31] <Leatha> inashdeen: grazy will try
[22:31] <Lint01> Bholzi, much more bloat
[22:32] <ubuntu_> acicula: is there a way to tell xrandr that there are two screens instead of just the one?
[22:32] <acicula> ubuntu try inserting --output LVDS1 --mode 1440x900 , if that doesnt work try the screens with the same resolution of 1024x768
[22:32] <acicula> ubuntu_: it already knows there are two
[22:32] <ubuntu_> acicula: I tried the first already and it couldn't find the mode for 1440x900 doing the second now
[22:33] <Ganymede> trism, Thanks again.
[22:33] <brazil> hi, I'm having a weird problem with Firefox on Lucid 64bit. When I try to open a pdf with xpdf I get a "could not be opened, because an unknown error occurred." and doing an strace indicates an EACCES when doing an execve (all the perms are good). Any ideas?
[22:33] <JabberWalkie_> are there packages for python 2.7 or higher?
[22:33] <pravin_> pravin@ubuntu:~$ dmesg | grep saa7134
[22:33] <pravin_> [   16.545052] saa7134 0000:04:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19
[22:33] <pravin_> [   17.144944] saa7134 ALSA driver for DMA sound loaded
[22:33] <JabberWalkie_> I have tried compiling them, but its not working out exactly...
[22:34] <pravin_> erUSUL : I got this, can u help me now
[22:34] <JabberWalkie_> I would like to install the newer version of mMass, but there is no ubuntu package for it yet...
[22:34] <inashdeen> leatha: i do realise when running virtual box that having a good processor do matter. try i3,i5,i7 or any dual core. that works great for me!
[22:34] <acicula> ubuntu_: xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x768 --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768 --left-of LVDS1
[22:35] <ubuntu_> acicula: ha! success!
[22:35] <acicula> Leatha: if your getting a processor look for something with VT extensions
[22:35] <acicula> ubuntu_: with 1024x768?
[22:35] <inashdeen> i got a pro
[22:35] <ubuntu_> acicula: yes. I know it's possible with both monitors in their native resolutions, but I've run into this problem before and haven't been able to even get this far
[22:36] <ubuntu_> acicula: sometiems it works, and sometimes it doesn't, depending on the distro, etc.
[22:36] <Leatha> acicula: I have an acer 5520 laptop, I could only get maybe a 2.4 vs the 1.9 I have now
[22:36] <Leatha> I do alot of ruby and use the command line alot, I just notice its very sluggish compared to when no x windows is used and im using straight command line
[22:37] <acicula> Leatha: thats normal, graphical output from virtualized systems is pretty crappy at best
[22:37] <togal7> #glogow
[22:37] <inashdeen> hi, anyone, i got a prob with running freenode on empathy any solution anyone???
[22:38] <Leatha> acicula: no no, I use the command line in ubuntu, its sluggish even when the virtual box is not being used.
[22:38] <Leatha> I only use virtual box when I need xp for browser testing or something, i dont work in the vm...
[22:38] <acicula> ah like so
[22:38] <inashdeen> leatha: how do u define sluggish?
[22:38] <pravin_> This is what i get on dmesg | grep 7130 " http://paste.ubuntu.com/553376/ " , can any one help me to watch tv on ubuntu?
[22:38] <acicula> how much memory?
[22:38] <acicula> ubuntu_: you can go higher as long as the resolutions sortof match afaik
[22:38] <Leatha> inashdeen: I can type faster than the letters show up on the screen
[22:39] <Leatha> inashdeen: without x running its instant, also calculations when I run a command take longer when in gnome
[22:39] <inashdeen> leatha: hahaha, ok then, try with lxde or xfce then, they might works better
[22:39] <Leatha> inashdeen: ok :) youve been extremely helpful thanks alot!
[22:39] <WaltherFI> Leatha: if speed goes over usability, try ratpoison
[22:40] <Leatha> WaltherFI: ill check it out
[22:40] <Leatha> i dont care for graphics at all, speed is it
[22:40] <ubuntu_> acicula: so, I have a 1680x900 display on my VGA1 monitor and a 1440x900 display on my LVDS1 monitor. I know I've had full native resolutions working before, maybe I should boot into a distro where it works, and check some files? what would I look for? does xrandr change/set a file I could look at?
[22:40] <WaltherFI> ratpoison is near-terminal desktop
[22:41] <erUSUL> Leatha: i would simply try a different xterminal; plain xterm urxvt or so
[22:41] <acicula> ubuntu_: not that im aware off
[22:41] <acicula> ubuntu_: you had them both running at their respective max resolutions?
[22:41] <WaltherFI> ubuntu_: check monitor settings first, or nvidia
[22:41] <pravin_> erUSUL: This is what i get on dmesg | grep saa7130 " http://paste.ubuntu.com/553376/ "
[22:41] <ubuntu_> acicula: yes, linux mint 9, ubuntu ultimate, but not vanilla ubuntu or many other distros.
[22:41] <Leatha> erUSUL: I never thought of that, ill try that as well
[22:41] <WaltherFI> ubuntu_: nowadays it is pretty rare that you have to edit .confs to make dual monitor setup work
[22:42] <Tester5> hi
[22:42] <ubuntu_> WaltherFI: where do I check monitor settings? etc/x11/xconf?
[22:42] <Tester5> does anyone here use Ubuntu Netbook Edition?
[22:42] <WaltherFI> ubuntu_: oh never mind :)
[22:42] <WaltherFI> ubuntu_: on vanilla ubuntu, you can do it very easily on gui
[22:42] <Tester5> I have a few questions about what it's like
[22:42] <acicula> ubuntu_: try increasing the resolution now that they work?
[22:43] <WaltherFI> Tester5: search for youtube videos
[22:43] <Urchin> how do I enable a normal user to run X server?
[22:43] <inashdeen> tester5: y dont u get the desktop environment only, that sloves many prob,if u have ub by already on ur system
[22:44] <ubuntu_> acicula: I tried to set the monitors to their full native resolutions, but it returned a BadMatch error and set the VGA1 to 1680x900 instead of 1680x1050
[22:44] <inashdeen> looking for some one to chat like a script kiddies rather than a programmer :-(
[22:44] <Guest98833> Hi, is my .bash_profile supposed to be sourced when I start GDM and open a new terminal ?
[22:44] <erUSUL> pravin_: have you tried tvtime or any other software?
[22:44] <ubuntu_> waltherFI: I've tried using grandr and lxradnr, and on vanilla ubuntu I run into the same exact problem using either the gui or cli
[22:44] <Tester5> inashdeen, I'm looking to reinstall the Ubuntu that's been running on my parents' computer. I left it in "autoupdate security patches" and now a couple of years later It's really acting up (Wine stopped working, as did Java). I was wondering if Netbook edition would be easier for non-technical people to use.
[22:45] <WaltherFI> ubuntu_: weird then
[22:45] <WaltherFI> ubuntu_: checked your drivers?
[22:45] <pravin_> erUSUL: I have not tried TVtie but i have tried MeTV
[22:45] <Tester5> and if it the GUI is faster than regular Ubuntu (in terms of how fast windows are drawn)
[22:45] <erUSUL> pravin_: does not work ?
[22:45] <inashdeen> nope, netbook looks nice, but lacks many normal desktop function, for dummy, gnome is always the best D.E
[22:45] <edbian> Tester5: I don't think so.  It'll confuse them why their computer is nothing like windows all of the sudden
[22:45] <jfe> hi all
[22:45] <edbian> Tester5: Just update to the latest version of Ubuntu
[22:46] <pravin_> erUSUL: no
[22:46] <jfe> is there a command to show what kind of memory is in my system (ie. PC2100, etc.)
[22:46] <Tester5> edbian: they've been using Ubuntu for 2 years, not Windows. But they're barely figuring out regular Ubuntu. All they can manage is the Firefox icon on the desktop.
[22:46] <WaltherFI> jfe: no actually, except bios
[22:46] <acicula> ubuntu_: it has to do with the other screen not being higher then 900 but i have no solution on how to make x ignore it
[22:46] <edbian> Tester5: I would just not change anything.  That's my opinion.  Change will confuse and annoy them
[22:46] <acicula> ubuntu_: maybe by setting a bigger virtual resolution?
[22:46] <ubuntu_> acicula: how do I set a larger virtual resolution?
[22:46] <Diamondcite> Tester5: You can always just use desktop icons as always.. but updating to the latest ubuntu would certainly bring you up to date?
[22:47] <inashdeen> tester5: i believe that the problem u r having due to the usage of obselete ubuntu version ( i guess it must be 8 or 9)
[22:47] <erUSUL> jfe: sudo lshw -C memory
[22:47] <pravin_> erUSUL: any software just wont recognise my tv card
[22:47] <erUSUL> pravin_: :/ sorry i can not help further. keep asking the channel.
[22:47] <inashdeen> tester5: what u need i a ubuntu guide book for dummies, or u can create one for them. ub will never be a windows, this is the fact. cause it runs on linux. mac user have better understanding of ub than windows ex user
[22:48] <Tester5> but overall, would you recommend Netbook edition over Regular edition to someone computer illiterate?
[22:48] <WaltherFI> Tester5: no
[22:48] <inashdeen> tester5: nope
[22:48] <edbian> Tester5: I would not
[22:48] <WaltherFI> Tester5: unity is more of a tablet os
[22:48] <WaltherFI> pardon, desktop
[22:48] <Diamondcite> Tester5: I would recommend as little change visually as possible for the.
[22:48] <pravin_> erUSUL: I'll do that
[22:49] <Tester5> I see
[22:49] <jfe> erUSUL: thanks
[22:49] <inashdeen> tester5: to much different in usage. try modifying gnome to make it look more user friendly. IT IS THE BEST way rather than using unity, or kde,or whatever.
[22:49] <Tester5> well OK, thanks. I'll install the latest regular version then.
[22:49] <Tester5> inashdeen, I figured if it's anything like the iPad (much fewer menu choices), they are more likely to figure out stuff on their own
[22:50] <acicula> ubuntu_: not really sure, ive ran into the same issue with my eeepc and
[22:50] <inashdeen> tester5: ok, u can replace gnome main menu with gnomenu, that make it looks more vistaish/xp
[22:50] <edbian> Tester5: It's easy I guess if you want to just launch firefox.  But more advanced stuff is harder.  It's harder to find settings windows.  It's harder to manage open windows
[22:51] <edbian> Tester5: So, in a strange way, it might work better for them.  However, like I said, it is strange and different from a traditional windows / gnome / mac doesktop
[22:51] <ubuntu_> waltherfi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/553384/ is that what you're looking for?
[22:51] <ubuntu_> waltherfi: errr... what I'm looking for :)
[22:51] <inashdeen> tester5: try getting ms-oofice runs in crossover and opens the doc by default before hand it to them, that help u to ease much of the probs
[22:51] <Diamondcite> edbian: Tester5 as far as my parents and ubuntu.. desktop icons for everything they needs, (Firefox, skype, symlink to the Videos folder, symlink to Pictures folder)
[22:52] <ubuntu_> acicula: :-\ well, we've definitely made some progress
[22:52] <WaltherFI> ubuntu_: sorry, i'm on my mobile now, primarily at other #channels
[22:52] <WaltherFI> ubuntu_: and mobile putty can't handle links
[22:52] <inashdeen> tester5: google chrome is a much user friend;y for dummies than firefox
[22:52] <WaltherFI> but at least i use irssi on my mobile too :P
[22:52] <ubuntu_> waltherfi: ok, well it's an integrated graphics card, relatively common - intel945gm
[22:52] <WaltherFI> inashdeen: more intuitive probably yes
[22:52] <Diamondcite> inashdeen: Some people have no concept of tabbed browsing though.
[22:52] <Tester5> inashdeen, firefox is for performance reasons. It's an old computer. I can't allow it to run without Adblock Plus and Flashblock, or it will fall on its knees.
[22:52] <inashdeen> tester5: the best is, make them a guide book, it is the best
[22:53] <ubuntu_> waltherfi: and well done you're pretty quick for someone on a mobile
[22:53] <WaltherFI> ubuntu_: then it shouldn't be a driver issue
[22:53] <Diamondcite> irssi on mobile?
[22:53] <WaltherFI> ubuntu_: qwerty :P
[22:53] <WaltherFI> Diamondcite: ssh to school's server
[22:53] <inashdeen> tester5: can u give the psec of ur comp. i mean , if it is old, then use the xfce or lxde D.E
[22:53] <Diamondcite> WaltherFI: As so it's a phone with a physical qwerty keyboard capable of ssh.
[22:54] <benji1232> Hi, is my .bash_profile supposed to be sourced when I start GDM and open a new terminal ?
[22:54] <WaltherFI> Diamondcite: yep, nokia e71
[22:54] <inashdeen> tester5: that'll make it more 98, so less probs i guess
[22:54] <ubuntu_> acicula: so if I reboot into a distro that works, what would I look in to in order to find the settings that work (and then copy them to flash drive, etc.)
[22:54] <ubuntu_> ?
[22:54] <brazil> my problem was apparmor
[22:55] <acicula> ubuntu_: dunno, kernel version and graphicsc driver
[22:55] <Tester5> oops, gotta go. thanks for your advice everyone.
[22:55] <ubuntu_> waltherfi: have you looked at the n900? I have an n800, but I was wondering how you felt symbian compared to maemo?
[22:55] <WaltherFI> ubuntu_: n900 was neat
[22:55] <Vhozard> How can I find files quickly via cli?
[22:55] <acicula> symbian is terrible
[22:55] <WaltherFI> ubuntu_: however, it is old
[22:55] <edbian> Vhozard: find
[22:55] <acicula> Vhozard: locate
[22:55] <ubuntu_> acicula: ok, assuming they're the same could I gind any other conf files, or something?
[22:56] <JabberWalkie_> can debian packages be installed along side ubuntu packages?
[22:56] <edbian> Vhozard: I prefer locate though
[22:56] <andrew_ryan_jr> is there a way to list the outdated packages?
[22:56] <ubuntu_> waltherfi: isn't it newer than the 71?
[22:56] <WaltherFI> ubuntu_: wait till spring, meego phones
[22:56] <inashdeen> i always had this idea, of making ubuntu easier to use for normal user, wanna write a semi software ( on .swf format) but really need a friend to complete it
[22:56] <ubuntu_> waltherfi: yeah, I've been looking forward to them
[22:56] <acicula> ubuntu_: well maybe /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but is not typically used these days
[22:56] <d3cented> whats the diff to whereis? packages onliy?
[22:56] <WaltherFI> ubuntu_: also, n900 has resistive screen - ugly
[22:56] <ubuntu_> acicula: :-\ ok, I'll be back in a few with some more info I guess.
[22:56] <JabberWalkie_> or will I get into trouble?
[22:57] <ubuntu_> waltherfi: v true capacitive is where it's at
[22:57] <acicula> JabberWalkie_: no
[22:57] <JabberWalkie_> k...
[22:57] <WaltherFI> resistive works on mp3's and navigators but i have both integrated to my phone so that's it
[22:57] <WaltherFI> ubuntu_: resistive has its pros too
[22:57] <ubuntu_> ?
[22:57] <WaltherFI> ubuntu_: like, true pressure sensing
[22:57] <ubuntu_> oh
[22:57] <WaltherFI> and much more multitouch
[22:58] <WaltherFI> unlimited, tbh
[22:58] <acicula> JabberWalkie_: no to your first question (yes to your second one)
[22:58] <WaltherFI> ubuntu_: anyway, too ot and busy at other #channels :P
[22:58] <JabberWalkie_> roger
[22:58] <WaltherFI> ubuntu_: join to #xkcd at foonetic :P
[22:58] <r3mish> what is gimp
[22:59] <acicula> foonetic?
[22:59] <acicula> r3mish: image manipulation program
[22:59] <r3mish> thanks
[22:59] <induz> Hello. I am looking for a offline calender for keeping my appointments
[23:00] <inashdeen> induz:
[23:00] <Hierro59> tengo una pc en la que no me puedo conectar porque algun usuario elimino accidentalmente el icono que sale al lado de la corneta que indica las conexiones
[23:01] <Hierro59> que puedo hacer?
[23:01] <inashdeen> induz: try dates, ubs > dates
[23:01] <xangua> induz: tried evolution¿
[23:01] <inashdeen> induz: that looks like a good one
[23:01] <xangua> !es > Hierro59
[23:01] <Vhozard> How can I use locate to look in a specific directory?
[23:01] <andrew_ryan_jr> Is there a way to get a list of packages that are out of date on my system?
[23:01] <WaltherFI> andrew_ryan_jr: sudo apt-get update
[23:02] <Raku> hi
[23:02] <kreign> is there any way to increase the boot verbosity? I'd like to see what's going on when my system boots, I don't like the 'hide everything' approach.
[23:02] <WaltherFI> andrew_ryan_jr: it does not actually update, upgrade is the command for that, update just checks
[23:02] <JabberWalkie_> Question: are packages found on launchpad.net testing packages?
[23:02] <kreign> JabberWalkie_, they sometimes are.
[23:02] <acicula> kreign: press tab(or esc?), and or switch virtual consoles
[23:03] <kreign> acicula, ... during the boot process?
[23:03] <induz> ubs> dates??
[23:03] <andrew_ryan_jr> WaltherFI: but update doesnt list the packages that need updating, correct?
[23:03] <kreign> acicula, I'm talking about the time that grub loads up until it actually gets to login.
[23:03] <andrew_ryan_jr> WaltherFI: I know if i do apt-get upgrade, it will list the packages that are going to be updated
[23:03] <WaltherFI> andrew_ryan_jr: mm there's probably an option for that
[23:03] <acicula> kreign: thats what i meant
[23:03] <kreign> JabberWalkie_, it depends on who's making the PPA. For instance, I maintained a couple PPAs for a while, but stopped doing so when I got bored with it.
[23:03] <kreign> acicula, ... VTs are available at that point already, eh? cool.
[23:03] <inashdeen> induz:
[23:04] <kreign> didnt think init spawned that off until later.
[23:04] <induz> inashdeen, ubs>dates? i can not keep appointments on that
[23:05] <Vhozard> How can I use locate to look in a specific directory?
[23:05] <inashdeen> induz: wait looking for a good one, btw, what kind of appointments u r saying?
[23:05] <azlon> how can i add a user to a folder? i dont want them to own it, just read and write to it
[23:06] <andrew_ryan_jr> azlon: add the user to the group who owns it
[23:06] <azlon> hrmm
[23:06] <WaltherFI> azlon: chmod
[23:06] <azlon> andrew_ryan_jr: how can i find the group name for the folder?
[23:06] <andrew_ryan_jr> azlon: ls -l
[23:07] <induz> inashdeen, I am applying for jobs so i need a calendar so i keep/record the appointments, Gmail is online . i am looking for offline so i can carry with me on USB
[23:07] <andrew_ryan_jr> azlon: you'll need to make sure the group has read and write as well, if they dont, use chmod g+w to add write access
[23:08] <induz> what is icalender?/
[23:08] <azlon> andrew_ryan_jr: how can i tell what group the current $USER is assigned to?
[23:08] <inashdeen> induz: ok, heres the thing, if u carrying the whole ubuntu, the chance is, u may get a good one, but if it is portable software u r looking for, the chance is, null. ubuntu seldom has portable software.
[23:10] <inashdeen> icalender is for mac, ithink it is for iphone or something
[23:10] <andrew_ryan_jr> azlon: cat /etc/group will give you the list of groups, and users in the groups
[23:10] <induz> inashdeen, so in a way i can not have a calaender[offline] to carry with me
[23:10] <denile> azlon, from terminal -- groups username
[23:11] <andrew_ryan_jr> WaltherFI: apt-get and aptitude dont seem to have an option to list upgradeable packages :/
[23:11] <WaltherFI> andrew_ryan_jr: oh wow
[23:11] <pelo> hey, im looking for a bit of help. I'm trying to install ubuntu 10.10 for the first time and am a complete linux noob
[23:11] <inashdeen> well, i am looking for one. but it is kind of hard because, if u just bring the calender with u, tell me how u gonna open the calender on a windows computer????
[23:11] <andrew_ryan_jr> WaltherFI: if they do, I'm missing it
[23:12] <azlon> denile: then to add $USER to a group i do: groups add $USER <groupname>
[23:12] <azlon> ?
[23:12] <andrew_ryan_jr> WaltherFI: i know that '/usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available' will show the number of updates available, MOTD uses it
[23:12] <_numbers> i just installed ubuntu 10.10 and made no extra effort to install an nvidia driver. does that mean i am using xrandr?
[23:12] <litropy> When I boot into recovery mode, I get, "Cannot open root device" with my root partition's uuid "or unknown block(0,0)
[23:13] <_numbers> also i cannot find /etc/xorg.conf
[23:13] <inashdeen> induz: wait, think i got one, giv me a while
[23:13] <acicula> _numbers: there isnt one
[23:13] <denile> azlon, usermod -G groupname
[23:13] <shaggyoaf> it
[23:13] <kreign> _numbers, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:13] <acicula> _numbers: you can set resolution via preferences -> display
[23:13] <andrew_ryan_jr> denile: i tend to vim /etc/group :P
[23:13] <kreign> _numbers, these days it's usually mostly empty w/ it all auto-detected.
[23:14] <kreign> litropy, i missed the intro; what'd you do to get to that point?
[23:14] <induz> inashdeen, Ok
[23:14] <acicula> _numbers: and you can activate nvidia drivers via the the Hardware driver tool
[23:14] <kreign> litropy, also, #grub or similar might be a better destination for you
[23:14] <inashdeen> induz: ok, my line is darn bad, try rainlendar, i cant test it first hard, it might work.
[23:15] <inashdeen> induz: http://www.rainlendar.net/cms/index.php?option=com_rny_download&Itemid=30
[23:15] <_numbers> im just trying to fix the mouse cursor from disappearing sometimes off the left monitor.
[23:15] <Vhozard> How can I update /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db    ????/
[23:15] <pelo> does anyone know why when i pop in the ubuntu 10.10 amd64 CD I can't set up a dual boot? it doesn't seem to be recognizing my win7 installation on the same disk
[23:15] <_numbers> its odd because it still works (i can see things highlighting as i move the mouse around) and i can click and if i drag apps to the right monitor (where the cursor still appears) then i can get along without it for a while
[23:16] <_numbers> someone suggested HWCursor but not sure how to set that with the new xorg.conf layout
[23:16] <acicula> pelo: boot windows and make sure its properly shut down
[23:16] <_numbers> "No proprietary driver is in use on this system."
[23:16] <_numbers> maybe installing the recommended Nvidia driver will fix?
[23:16] <_numbers> that might explain why Google Earth was so slow
[23:16] <pelo> alrighty, will try it, thanks ;)
[23:17] <acicula> worth installing yeah
[23:17] <kreign> _numbers, you're on this one like a hound on a hare.
[23:17] <inashdeen> induz: u could try to use the portable version for windows on wine, so that, when u open it up on a windows system, u wont have much prob
[23:17] <_numbers> lol kreign
[23:18] <inashdeen> gonna of now, tara!
[23:19] <BernardV> nn inashdeen ;) (if it's night there...)
[23:19] <ylmfos> so many people in here!
[23:19] <mimor> I have problems with alsamixer
[23:19] <induz> inashdeen, i am using WINE and Words 2007
[23:19] <mimor> error: cannot open mixer: no such file or directory
[23:19] <mimor> can someone help?
[23:20] <bastidrazor> Vhozard: sudo updatedb.mlocate
[23:20] <edbian> mimor: sudo apt-get install alsa
[23:20] <acicula> mimor: what ubuntu version are you using/
[23:20] <Vhozard> bastidrazor, I did it, but it wont update /media/data/downloads
[23:20] <chilli0> Hello, how do I find my ssh public key ?
[23:21] <mimor> edbian: already did
[23:21] <mimor> acicula Ubuntu 10.10 (server)
[23:21] <The> whats up peeps
[23:21] <andrew_ryan_jr> WaltherFI: 'apt-show-versions -u' lists updateable pages, FYI
[23:22] <Vhozard> nvm, I needed to edit /etc/updatedb.conf and remove /media from the PRUNEPATHS option
[23:22] <acicula> mimor: output of lspci | grep Audio ?
[23:24] <mimor> acicula: 00:0f0 Ado device: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Azalia Audio Controller
[23:28] <duke_> how i bring proces in front opposite of  ./myprog &
[23:28] <acicula> mimor: whats the exact error when you type alsamixer
[23:30] <ZenMasta> need some help installing lamp when i try commands like aptitude install apache2 it says couldn't find any package or description matched apache2
[23:30] <mimor> acicula: cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[23:30] <lucenut> OK, twice I loaded 10.10 x64 alongside windows 7 x 64 on a Sony VAIO with 4G RAM and after ubuntu does a big batch of updates I lose keyboard and touchpad.
[23:30] <mimor> acicula: exactly that
[23:30] <lucenut> Any ideas?
[23:30] <duke_> is there no command to bring running process in front to terminal?
[23:30] <acicula> mimor: does lsmod | grep snd give you anything
[23:31] <lucenut> I can boot into ubuntu and see the clock is running but can't interact with it.
[23:31] <acicula> duke_: fg
[23:31] <mimor> acicula: quite a lot actually
[23:31] <acicula> mimor: k drivers are loaded too then
[23:31] <duke_> mimor thx :)
[23:32] <mimor> duke_: ?
[23:32] <lucenut> Can I repair this ubuntu install in recovery mode?
[23:32] <duke_> thank you for your help
[23:32] <Chipzzz> ZenMasta: apt-get install apache2
[23:33] <duke_> thx acicula im less sleeping
[23:33] <jhansonxi> I'm trying to get wicd to coexist with Network Manager.  I want wicd-curses for recovery mode only.  I modified the NM upstart job to not start in runlevel S but wicd starts in runlevel 2, even with the init script removed.  Why?
[23:34] <thieven`> lucenut, i would say yes, or use a live cd to play with it. but i don't know what happened to it. that is an odd problem you have.
[23:34] <Bholzi> Kernel version command?
[23:34] <thieven`> uname -r
[23:34] <mimor> Bholzi: uname -r
[23:34] <thieven`> Bholzi,
[23:34] <mimor> oh too late :(
[23:34] <thieven`> i win!
[23:35] <Gnea> cat /proc/version
[23:35] <mimor> you're a thieve
[23:35] <thieven`> i /me'd the victory from you.
[23:35] <duke_> i have windows+virtualbox and wanna make host only how i have to configure my route to still access internet with my linux machine
[23:35] <hockebocke> how do I get 5.1 sound on HDMI?
[23:36] <duke_> <IP_ADDRESS>   *               <IP_ADDRESS>   U     1      0        0 eth0
[23:36] <Gnea> duke_: turn on ip forwarding
[23:36] <duke_> second line ist just with interfacename vboxnet
[23:37] <duke_> on my virtualbox or linux system
[23:37] <duke_> ?
[23:37] <Gnea> duke_: it should get to the net on its own otherwise
[23:37] <Gnea> linux
[23:37] <acicula> mimor: dont know then, is there an audio cable connected, are you in the right user group?
[23:38] <ocean> does any one know if ubuntu supports hybrid graphics card?
[23:38] <acicula> mimor: try sudo alsamixer maybe?
[23:38] <lucenut> OK, riddle me this. Ubuntu 10.10 on a VAIO VGN-NS235J and after it does it's first round of updates I lose keyboard/touchpad!
[23:38] <kosmarnik> python-setuptools is giving me trouble:  easy_install --prefix /usr/local pyrocore gets me an error message: TEST FAILED: /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages does NOT support .pth files error: bad install directory or PYTHONPATH... running this under root
[23:38] <duke_> is it a one liner?
[23:38] <lucenut> I just plugged in a USB and it's fine.
[23:38] <thieven`> hockebocke, some hdmi ports do not send audio through it.  maybe yours is one of those.
[23:38] <acicula> ocean: depends on the hybrid form i think
[23:38] <mimor> acicula: I'm in the audio group, tried as sudo already ;)
[23:38] <acicula> mimor: is there an audio cable connected?
[23:38] <mimor> acicula: cable is working fine
[23:39] <acicula> weird, then i dont know
[23:39] <ocean> acicula, i am usinga hp dv-6 3150sa laptop which uses ATI mobilty readon HD 5470 graphics9switchable with intel HD GMA). after partitioning i could install ubuntu 10.10 without any problems.
[23:39] <hockebocke> thieven`: it's a nvidia card. the audio works, but it's just stereo
[23:39] <mimor> acicula: no problem, thx for the help ;)
[23:39] <kosmarnik> any ide where PYTHONPATH should point to?
[23:39] <ocean> acicula, but ATi is not working
[23:40] <acicula> ocean: its using the intel gpu?
[23:40] <Gnea> kosmarnik: did you compile python?
[23:40] <BernardV> hockebocke: stereo+ is overrated ;)...
[23:40] <thieven`> hockebocke, the only thing i would know then is clicking in the settings on your little speaker icon by the clock on your panel. make sure it's set to 5.1
[23:40] <ocean> inel is the low perfomance, i am not sure if its GPU
[23:40] <kosmarnik> Gnea, I'm not sure, did apt-get install python
[23:41] <hockebocke> thieven`: what should be set to 5.1?
[23:41] <Gnea> kosmarnik: what's using python-setuptools?
[23:41] <lucenut> Anyone know how to fix ubuntu 10.10 when you lose keyboard/touchpad?
[23:42] <lucenut> USB keyboard/mouse work on it.
[23:42] <kosmarnik> Gnea, trying to install pyrocore, by following their instructions
[23:42] <ocean> acicula, i tried switcheroo programe. when i choose the low perfomance the active card is the intel one and compiz works but when i switch to high perfomance the compiz disappears. i tried installing the ati driver from the website but no joy
[23:42] <lucenut> Brand new installation and was fine before doing updates.
[23:42] <thieven`> hockebocke, on the 'output' tab, you can see what it's set to.  on the hardware tab is where you can change from 2.0 to 5.1   i hope that does it, cause other than that, i am useless to help you as linux audio is a secret art that only a few understand.
[23:43] <acicula> ocean: you have to restart x when you switch gpus
[23:43] <BernardV> thieven`: I just walked in and see hockebocke's replies, but does it mean nvidia->hdmi+audio? Why would ubuntu stay between the coding.. let the other end solve it. (I never used it, so don't have a clue...)
[23:43] <hockebocke> thieven`: ok
[23:43] <Gnea> kosmarnik: which instructions?
[23:44] <almoxarife> http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/01/noaa-2010-goes-down-as-a-tie-for-warmest-year-on-record.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss  <--- good news, its getting warmer
[23:44] <kosmarnik> Gnea: http://code.google.com/p/pyroscope/wiki/QuickStartGuide?tm=2
[23:44] <han_> Hi fellow ubuntu'ers (?) i just got into the game, and I love it! However I am looking for some suggestions: Can someone recommend me a better bittorrent client and a better music tool?
[23:44] <han_> like itunes I guess
[23:44] <ocean> acicula, i am not a skilled user, could u explain me what x is pls. when i switch the graphics it automatically logs me out and i have to login again.is that enough or ?
[23:44] <almoxarife> sorry, wrong window
[23:44] <kosmarnik> han_: rtorrent FTW
[23:44] <Gnea> kosmarnik: what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[23:44] <acicula> ocean: yeah
[23:44] <BernardV> lol @ kosmarnik :)
[23:45] <kun> hi everybody
[23:45] <Gnea> BernardV: I just saw it too
[23:45] <BernardV> kosmarnik: You're right about the client, but I think he means...
[23:45] <acicula> ocean: did you activate the hardware drivers for ati? under system
[23:45] <Gnea> kosmarnik: make sure you read every part of that section
[23:45] <lucenut> Anyone? How to recover keyboard/touchpad? They were working until I let it do it's updates last night.
[23:46] <kosmarnik> BernardV, then rutorrent? or just use Vuze :D
[23:46] <ocean> acicula, that was the first job i did.installing fglrx and on reboot GUI disappeared and it took me to command mode.i had to reinstall ubuntu
[23:46] <han_> rtorrent? i don't see that on the list of ubuntu software
[23:46] <BernardV> kosmarnik: I'd stay with just R..
[23:46] <Gnea> kosmarnik: did you find it yet?
[23:47] <kosmarnik> Gnea, sorry trying to look it up, I'm newb at this :|
[23:47] <kun> I'm ubuntu noob and I have a problem :( I installed Ubuntu 10.04 in my desktop but when I restart it, ubuntu doesn't start and screen is freeze with Ubuntu Logo
[23:47] <BernardV> Well kun the logo could be worse...
[23:47] <BernardV> nn all ;)
[23:48] <han_> So what is the best torrent software to use?
[23:48] <kosmarnik> Gnea, Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS
[23:48] <coz_> kun,   when you downloaded the iso image...did you check the md5sums on that  and did you burn it at  1x  ???
[23:48] <Gnea> kosmarnik: "If easy_install prints a message containing error: bad install directory or PYTHONPATH, try to use --prefix /usr in the above command."
[23:48] <han_> anyone have any suggestions?
[23:48] <acicula> ocean: k
[23:48] <CaptainJon> Hey guys, just installed Ubuntu desktop on my laptop and i set my password during the installation but when I try to install updates says that it is wrong....what do I do?
[23:48] <kun> bernard, I know it could be worse
[23:48] <kosmarnik> han_, there is no best, go try rt/rut, vuze, maybe deluge
[23:48] <pitoow> han_, deluge
[23:48] <kun> but in my 3 install too??
[23:48] <ocean> hi
[23:49] <lucenut> How do I recover keyboard/touchpad? They were working until I let it do it's updates last night.
[23:49] <good_intentions> Hey I need to install a pakacge in ubuntu 10.04 called libarts1-dev but its not in the repository and can't find any solutions online can someone assist me I need it as it is dependency
[23:49] <kun> when I resest my desktop many times, ubuntu works at the end
[23:49] <acicula> ocean: x is the graphical environment. if the hardware drivers crash on boot best to leave them and try again when ubuntu 11.04 comes out.
[23:49] <lucenut> Ubuntu 10.10 on Sony VAIO
[23:49] <han_> thanks guys, pitoow ill try deluge
[23:49] <Gnea> lucenut: can you still use the mouse?
[23:49] <han_> thanks
[23:49] <lucenut> It's a laptop.
[23:49] <lucenut> USB mouse/keyboard works.
[23:49] <Meway> does anyone have a good example of copying a file and pasting it in a different directory using the terminal ( I'm using ubuntu server)
[23:49] <lucenut> But the onboard stuff no worky.
[23:49] <Gnea> lucenut: reboot it?
[23:49] <pitoow> han_, (y)
[23:49] <lucenut> Have many times. :-)
[23:50] <rww> Meway: cp original otherdirectory/copy
[23:50] <Steve973> How can I verify that I have NFS exports set up properly?  I cannot connect from my client machine (mac os x)
[23:50] <Gnea> lucenut: could you please pastebin the output of the dmesg command?
[23:50] <lucenut> It was a brand new install last night and worked fine until it did it's big round of updates.
[23:50] <rww> Meway: e.g. cp file.txt Documents/resume.txt
[23:50] <kun> any idea?
[23:50] <kosmarnik> Gnea,  easy_install --prefix /usr pyrocore  -> error: installation into /usr  ->Trying to install into the system managed parts of the file system.
[23:50] <Meway> rww can you explain a bit>
[23:50] <Bholzi> Sorry - i ran a stupid command, how do i run a specific application (eg solitare) from the terminal?
[23:50] <Gnea> !nfs | Steve973
[23:50] <ocean> acicula, thanks. i had a detailed googling on this issue, so far i couldnt figure out a decent article about linux support of hybrid graphics
[23:51] <Steve973> gnea I already did that
[23:51] <rww> Meway: cp is the command name. the first argument is where the file is. the second argument is where the file's going.
[23:51] <acicula> ocean: its still rather poor atm
[23:51] <ocean> hopin 11.04 will come out with a fix
[23:51] <acicula> ocean: i expect it to be somewhat improved in 11.04 though
[23:51] <Gnea> Steve973: can you pastebin your /etc/exports file?
[23:51] <Steve973> Gnea i modified my iptables rules to allow all traffic from my lan-facing interface
[23:51] <Gnea> Steve973: nice
[23:52] <ocean> acicula, i can see that discussions abt hybrid graphics support started way bak in december 2009!
[23:52] <Gnea> kosmarnik: I do not know then...
[23:52] <Steve973> Gnea does that sound reasonable?
[23:52] <acicula> ocean: you could try disabling one of the gpus in the bios and see if it gets better that way
[23:52] <wo7ke> sb using remastersys around?
[23:52] <poortfel> hi
[23:52] <Steve973> Gnea I will pastebin the exports file momentarily
[23:52] <kun>  I'm ubuntu noob and I have a problem :( I installed Ubuntu 10.04 in my desktop but when I restart it, ubuntu doesn't start and screen is freeze with Ubuntu Logo
[23:52] <ocean> acicula, disappointing thing is that the bio doesnt support graphic selection
[23:52] <kosmarnik> Gnea, do you at least have an idea what PYTHONPATH is for? is it a lib dir or an install dir?
[23:53] <Steve973> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/9CLGuJwg
[23:54] <ocean> j
[23:54] <Meway> rww:  what is e. g.
[23:54] <Meway> ?
[23:54] <ocean> .
[23:55] <Chipzzz> :kun reboot, hold the space key until grub comes up, select the failsafe video mode
[23:55] <bastidrazor> Chipzzz: kun .. it is the shift key
[23:55] <kun> thanks for info chipzzz
[23:55] <kun> shift key otr space bar
[23:55] <kun> or space bar
[23:55] <Chipzzz> Sorry... bastidrazor is right
[23:55] <Meway> rww ok I have file 1, directory 1 and directory 2 I wan't to move file 1 into directory 2. The file is in directory 1
[23:56] <Gnea> kosmarnik: I've never dealt with it, perhaps #python would know
[23:56] <kun> ok
[23:56] <Steve973> Gnea, is that file reasonable?
[23:56] <kun> and then???
[23:56] <lucenut> Gnea, what was that command to run? dmesg?
[23:56] <kosmarnik> Gnea, thanks, I'll try there
[23:56] <kun> it coud be a hardware problem??
[23:57] <Gnea> lucenut: dmesg | pastebinit
[23:57] <Drainix> Hey there an easy way to limit how much bandwidth you give to an ip ? :P
[23:57] <Drainix> in ubuntu 10.10
[23:57] <CaptainJon> Hello, I installed ubuntu desktop, and my password says its wrong, How do i reset my password?
[23:58] <jetscreamer> what's a good partition size for a nice big fat bloated install of lots of newbie candy
[23:58] <Drainix> All of it.
[23:58] <Drainix> lol
[23:58] <Gnea> Steve973: have you tried doing it per ip instead of a whole block at a time?
[23:58] <acicula> jetscreamer: 20-30gb or so
[23:58] <Steve973> Gnea no, not yet
[23:58] <Gnea> jetscreamer: giga-gigabytes!
[23:59] <Chipzzz> kun: then you will be able to use the graphic interface... you'll be able to solve the problem more easily that way
[23:59] <shcherbak> CaptainJon: You sure that it is not Caps Lock?
[23:59] <Gnea> Steve973: okay, I'd pick an ip that's already assigned and try that
[23:59] <jetscreamer> nah i'm setting up a dual boot for this guy.. ok thanks
[23:59] <DasEi> jetscreamer: hardly 50, rather less, and can extend /home later
[23:59] <Guest53932> hello, I'm a bit Offtopic but are there other rooms just to chat?
[23:59] <Bholzi> how do you get from 'man man' back to terminal cmd?
[23:59] <lucenut> Gnea, pastebin.com/ziNpK9xu
[23:59] <kun> Understand you Chipzzz
[23:59] <Gnea> Steve973: I'm not sure if using CIDR notation is correct syntax or not
[23:59] <acicula> Bholzi: q
[23:59] <shcherbak> !ot | Guest53932
[23:59] <jetscreamer> okie i have 63 left over that wil work


[03:10] <guiverc> I just booted the wrong thumb-drive (kinetic) for QA install,  the black-grub alerted me.. contrasted with bright-blue & lubuntu logo I see on focal.5 ; do we care about lack of pretty-grub on live-boot?  (ie. worth bug report? given uefi/bios vary anyway)
[03:16] <arraybolt3[m]> guiverc: Personally I'm fine with the black GRUB (in fact since it looks similar to the other releases it might even be preferable). IMO it would probably be tricky to fix and wouldn't do a whole lot more for the user. (This is just my opinion, maybe we can wow users with a really pretty bootup screen and make the OS seem more polished?)
 my 2 cents is it sets us apart but if we don't have pretty-grub i won't shed a tear over it, if there's a good reason for it
 guiverc: ^
[03:18] <arraybolt3[m]> I like the idea of us being set apart from the rest - if we can make the whole thing really pop from square one, it might make things more comfortable for those leaving Windows.
[03:18] <arraybolt3[m]> So I take it back, yeah sounds like it would be worth filing a bug report over.
 agreed.  but again, if we can't get it in there because of incompatibilities or something, we should get it fixed since that's a staple of our imagesw
[03:29] <guiverc> I agree (as in not worth shedding a tear; it's live boot only which ideally should be seen once for secs..) but I do like it...  my kinetic isn't current so can't file now (& no intention of currently..  focal.5 my focus)  & thanks @teward001 arraybolt3[m]
[07:16] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal 20.04.5] has been updated (20220831)
[11:06] <guiverc> (super loud) grrrr.. new daily has casper 1.445.3 !!!


[13:32] <Artificial_Intel> hello out there
[13:54] <nerdy_kid> hi everyone, has anyone here managed to get a 100% working nvidia optimus?
[14:06] <nerdy_kid> I guess not...
[14:16] <s-fox> Hello.
[14:27] <Artificial_Intel> hi s-fox
[14:27] <s-fox> Hello Artificial_Intel
[14:27] <s-fox> =)
[14:28] <Artificial_Intel> is optimus even supported in nvidia restricted drivers?
[15:19] <nerdy_kid> Artificial_Intel, optimus is not supported through the nvidia drivers, only through a project called "bumblebee"...It seems to work, but I don't want to drop $1200 for something that doesnt work well...
[15:23] <Artificial_Intel> didn't knew, open source project?
[15:47] <nerdy_kid> yeah, so there is hope :)
[15:51] <newz2000> Hi, I work for Canonical and I've been asked to look into the SSO integration module for the VB upgrade
[15:51] <newz2000> However unfortunately I've not been given a ton of information to work with. :-)
[15:52] <newz2000> Anyone around who is able to help me out?
[15:53] <Pici> newz2000: You sure you're in the right channel? This is #kubuntu-offtopic
[15:53] <s-fox> Pici,  We're om #ubuntuforums
[15:53] <Pici> er
[15:54] <newz2000> am I? I thought this was #ubuntuforums
[15:54] <Pici> what
[15:54] <newz2000> :-)
[15:54] <Pici> silly irssi... moving my windows around.
[15:54] <Pici> newz2000: sorry!
[15:54] <s-fox> newz2000,  I am an admin on the forum ;)
[15:54] <newz2000> no sweat. ;-)
[15:54] <newz2000> s-fox: I guess what I need to know most is the version of vb I should test with
[15:55]  * newz2000 is assuming he can download a trial version
[15:56] <newz2000> I guess I was wrong, they don't have a trial version available
[15:58] <s-fox> newz2000,   version 4.x - i can check exact version later when am home.
[15:59] <newz2000> s-fox: is this form of communication the most productive or is there a better way for me to communicate with the people involved in the upgrade?
[16:00] <s-fox> newz2000,  You might want to get in contact with technoviking .  He has been working closely with canonical re: upgrade.  Certainly had more input than me.
[16:00] <newz2000> ok
[16:01] <newz2000> technoviking: ping, I'll e-mail you too through the RT system, re: need to get up to speed on the vb openid integration task
[16:04] <newz2000> (once I figure out the rt system)


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[09:15] <ldunn6> Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate
[09:15] <ldunn6> A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
[09:21] <andries4> With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/
[09:21] <andries4> I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[09:21] <andries4> Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate
[09:21] <andries4> A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
[09:21] <searedvandal> Mathias, +r her også kanskje?
[20:14] <Freddish> God Jul faktisk...
[20:15] <Mathias> bedre? :P
[20:15] <Freddish> ja :)
[20:15] <Mathias> jula varer helt til neste jul :P
[20:17] <Freddish> Ja, det er jo egentlig sant det :)


[17:40] <zequence> SonikkuAmerica: hi
[17:40] <SonikkuAmerica> (Hello)
[17:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Anything else I should do? (Join the mailing list, etc.)?
[17:41] <zequence> SonikkuAmerica: Yeah, the mail list would be good
[17:41] <zequence> SonikkuAmerica: That's really enough for now. From Tuesday onwards, Ill have more time, and will be a lot more active here
[17:41] <SonikkuAmerica> OK
[17:42] <zequence> SonikkuAmerica: If you want, you can look around in our wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio
[17:42] <SonikkuAmerica> All right...
[17:42] <zequence> Sorry
[17:42] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah I was about to say... that doesn't exist
[17:42] <zequence> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio
[17:42] <SonikkuAmerica> Got it :)
[17:43] <zequence> SonikkuAmerica: Here's a page about getting involved in development https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/JoinTheTeam
[17:44] <zequence> No hurry with that though
[17:44] <zequence> Ok, bb next week :)