[06:55] <dabaR> Toma-: no, I dont think so, altho...that says otherwise... when I scan the domain name of the computer, so, blah.blah.blah instead of localhost, the 25 port is shown as closed.
[06:55] <Jack_B> ryufreak, yes
[06:55] <Toma-> dabaR: well it should all be good then
[06:56] <dabaR> dabaR: good being as I said?
[06:56] <ghostdog> i did but i saw sum packages that failed to be installed
[06:56] <Toma-> u could always add port 25 to iptables and close it up
[06:56] <ryufreak> i hope i choose the right one
[06:56] <ghostdog> nalioth i did but i saw sum packages that failed to be installed
[06:56] <bob2> dude
[06:56] <bob2> do not use netsta unless you know how to interpret it's output
[06:56] <bobot> nalioth: thanks nalioth
[06:56] <bob2> postfix is NOT listening to other machines by default
[06:56] <linner> nalioth:  can you point me in a direction where i can fix it?
[06:56] <brownie17> what is colony 5?
[06:56] <dabaR> bob2: me?
[06:57] <linner> brownie17:  the newest  build of ubuntu breezy
[06:57] <brownie17> linner, thanks
[06:57] <linner> brownie17:  sure
[06:57] <ryufreak>   PID TTY          TIME CMD
[06:57] <Toma-> bob2: better safe than sorry?
[06:57] <nalioth> linner: ask bob2 for a pointer, i'm not up on ndiswrapper, just have seen the error in here quite often
[06:57] <ryufreak> those are what's listed
[06:57] <Jack_B> ryufreak, what's the name of the app that froze?
[06:57] <shookie> sup
[06:57] <ryufreak> xmms =/
[06:57] <linner> nalioth:  okey dokey :)
[06:57] <Jack_B> ryufreak, type in ps -A
[06:58] <robotgeek> ryufreak: type killall xmms
[06:58] <linner> bob2:  what do you know about this error:  FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[06:58] <brownie17> anyone know any video editing software that come with an install script? or on of them auto packages?
[06:58] <bob2> linner: that seems to be a highly useless error indicating that you need a newer version of ndiswrapper
[06:58] <bob2> brownie17: kino
[06:58] <ryufreak> Ohh, capital A, not lowercase
[06:58] <nalioth> brownie17: cinepaint
[06:58] <Toma-> brownie17: avidemux
[06:58] <linner> bob2:  nice.
[06:58] <Jack_B> robotgeek: xmms freezes on my computer too, do you know why?
[06:58] <shookie> Listen im having an issue with my usb camera. I cant seem to resolve it. Camera is a Kodak DX3500 and the error ... Cannot claim USB something
[06:58] <ryufreak> Jack_B, thanks
[06:58] <Jack_B> robotgeek: happens everytime i try to play a file
[06:58] <crimsun> Jack_B, are you using the esound output?
[06:58] <linner> bob2:  just synaptic it?
[06:59] <Jack_B> crimsun: esound?
[06:59] <robotgeek> Jack_B: there's was a xmms bug on x86, i dunno if it has been fixed. anyways, use beep-media-player!
[06:59] <crimsun> Jack_B, in Preferences
[06:59] <crimsun> robotgeek, err, which?
[06:59] <Jack_B> crimsun: if i am should it work?
[06:59] <dabaR> bob2: well, did you read what my issue is? I got a email from ISP saying ports 42, 135-139, 445 are being blocked due to a security concern they have. so, I used nmap to scan what ports are open, and it did not list any of those as being open. ISP miscalculated the security threat? or alternatively, when I boot windows, then the security threat is there?
[06:59] <robotgeek> crimsun: on bug day, there was one. i dunno if it was fixed
[06:59] <bob2> linner: no
[06:59] <linner> bob2:  oh...
[06:59] <ryufreak> so what's the best media player to use, if not xmms?
[06:59] <crimsun> Jack_B, depends if you're using standard gnome audio settings
[07:00] <linner> bob2:  what should i do then?
[07:00] <bob2> dabaR: no, that's just a normal misunderstanding of how TCP works
[07:00] <crimsun> robotgeek, the free() stack smasher?
[07:00] <linner> bob2:  go to sourceforge?
[07:00] <bob2> linner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[07:00] <linner> bob2:  i've got that
[07:00] <Jack_B> crimsun: ok i just switched to esound uoutput
[07:00] <robotgeek> crimsun: not sure, am a ppc guy. i was testing bugs on ppc. din't bother with that one
[07:00] <crimsun> robotgeek, that was due to xmms-flac and has since been fixed.
[07:00] <robotgeek> crimsun: oh okay, noted
[07:01] <bob2> dabaR: you cannot detect that block from within your house
[07:01] <bob2> linner: you read that exact page?
[07:01] <linner> bob2:  yes
[07:01] <dabaR> bob2: so, scan for it from here?
[07:01] <dabaR> I mean, from another computer?
[07:01] <linner> bob2:  that's what i've been following up to this point
[07:01] <bob2> linner: ouch
[07:01] <linner> bob2:  i kmnow
[07:01] <linner> know that is
[07:01] <Jack_B> crimsun: OMG it doesn't freeze anymore, i lub joo
[07:01] <bob2> dabaR: it doesn't matter
[07:02] <dabaR> bob2: well, what, are the ports open and the computer infested, or not, to be blunt...?
[07:02] <bob2> dabaR: no, it has nothing to do with you
[07:02] <Jack_B> crimsun: do i have to change mplayer's output to esound as well? because that app always freezes on me as well
[07:02] <crimsun> Jack_B, -ao esd
[07:03] <dabaR> bob2: so they are wrong about the ports being open, or it was windows, am I understanding this properly?
[07:03] <bob2> dabaR: no, you're misunderstanding how tcp networks work
[07:03] <dabaR> ok. so its still possible that my computer is a threat?
[07:03] <bob2> of course
[07:03] <dabaR> bob2: what should I do?
[07:03] <bob2> if your isp claims otherwise, they're lying or stupid
[07:03] <bob2> dabaR: do nothing
[07:04] <dabaR> they say I am a threat, and they blocked my ports. so they are correct?
[07:04] <bob2> dabaR: keep up to date with security patches, dont' run crap from untrusted sources and you wont' have issues
[07:04] <Jack_B> crimsun: err do i type that in console or something
[07:04] <bob2> dabaR: no, they didn't
[07:04] <philc> what is the command that is run to hibernate in breezy? it's not /usr/sbin/hibernate, that's swsusp2 apparently
[07:04] <crimsun> Jack_B, yes
[07:04] <vladuz976> is skype in any repository?
[07:04] <dabaR> bob2: sorry, I dont get it. THey blocked my ports.
[07:04] <crimsun> vladuz976, no
[07:04] <bob2> philc: sudo /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh
[07:04] <bob2> dabaR: dude
[07:04] <philc> bob2: thanks
[07:04] <dabaR> Or they said they did, anyhow.
[07:04] <bob2> dabaR: they blocked those ports coming into their network to *everyone*
[07:05] <Jack_B> crimsun: -ao, command not found?
[07:05] <shawarma> Jack_B: mplayer -ao esd
[07:05] <shookie> im having problems with importing photos from my camera. Seems like i cant resolve the issue. I checked online with no avail.
[07:05] <Jack_B> shawarma, ok thanks
[07:05] <dabaR> bob2: ok, whatever, I dont get it, but, I do do what you said above, update the system, and do not install crap. thats all that matters. as long as you say I am to do nothing...
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. ever since ive gotten my wireless working (wlan0 is not 'up' at the moment) on my wireed network - the pings and other responses are real real slow..  Not sure what to look at to begin trouble shooting
[07:06] <bimberi> ubotu tell vladuz976 about skype
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=74.9 ms
[07:06] <Dr_Willis>
[07:06] <bob2> dabaR: it's very hard to explain what they did without explaining how tcp/ip works in general, sorry
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> anyone  know if the wireless driver/config/setup could be messing with the system when im not using wireless at the moment?
[07:06] <bob2> very unlikely
[07:06] <bob2> unless it's a ipv6 routing thing
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> bob2,  Hmm.. thats possible,
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> I dont use ipv6 at all.. guess i check the wiki on how to remove it properly
[07:07] <shookie> anyone?
[07:07] <dabaR> bob2: ya, ok, I got that. Its just that that place where they sent the email to is on the same ISP as I am, and I did not get an email.
[07:07] <vladuz976> bimberi, thanks i added that but now i can't install skype because it depends on "libqt3c102-mt" which is not available
[07:08] <bob2> dabaR: then ask them if theyre doing it to everyone or not
[07:08] <Travis|H> gah ok well i have that w32codec .deb ... i installed it doing "dpkg --install w32codec~.deb" and it seems to have installed .. but Totem still won't play WMV's
[07:08] <oneifreak> Travis|H: using totem-xine?
[07:08] <Travis|H> gstreamer
[07:08] <dabaR> bob2: it says in the email that my computer is suspected. and that they blocked ports on my connection to their network.
[07:08] <deFrysk> erm w32codecs needs totem-xine
[07:09] <shookie> ??
[07:09] <Travis|H> ok then .. that makes sense
[07:09] <Travis|H> thanks :)
[07:09] <nalioth> Travis|H: newer microsoft media wont play
[07:09] <shawarma> shookie: What kind of camera?
[07:09] <shookie> having prorblems importing photos .. could use someones help
[07:09] <shookie> Kodak DX3500
[07:09] <ryufreak> anyone know how to install skins on xmms?
[07:09] <vladuz976> libqt3c102-mt is not available in breezy?
[07:09] <shawarma> shookie: Ok. What's the exact problem?
[07:09] <bob2> vladuz976: indeed, it's called libqt3-mt
[07:10] <dabaR> ryufreak: add a .skins dir in your .xmms and put the skins there.
[07:10] <dabaR> or just skins in .xmms
[07:10] <Jack_B> crimsun: did mplayer and xmms freeze because the default sound drivers were dodgy?
[07:10] <dabaR> no, it was trying to use a sound server that is not running on your computer, Jack_B .
[07:10] <shawarma> Jack_B: No, they were just waiting for the sound device to become available.
[07:10] <deFrysk> ryufreak, put the packages in .xmms/path/to/Skins
[07:10] <deFrysk> ryufreak, so do not unpack them
[07:10] <shookie> it seems like it knows what camera
[07:10] <shookie> just doesnt want to download
[07:10] <shookie> i tried several things
[07:10] <shookie> but im all ears
[07:10] <deFrysk> ryufreak, or sudo apt-get install xms-skins
[07:10] <deFrysk> ryufreak, or sudo apt-get install xmms-skins
[07:10] <Jack_B> ok cool fellas
[07:11] <ryufreak> oic
[07:11] <ryufreak> i couldn't find the xmms path
[07:11] <deFrysk> or is it xmms-themes nowadays ?
[07:11] <shawarma> shookie: You need to explain the "just doesnt want to download" bt..
[07:11] <shookie> well I plug it in .. auto import window comes up... my camera's icon is there while its searching for drivers....
[07:11] <shookie> sorry
[07:11] <deFrysk> ryufreak,  .xmms/Skins is the correct path
[07:11] <shookie> Cannot claim usb port or something like that
[07:12] <B_166-ER-X> 1152 oe 1280, that is the question (17inch)
[07:12] <deFrysk> ryufreak, note the dot (.) it stands for hidden file
[07:13] <shookie> i did it under root as well
[07:13] <shawarma> shookie: Doesn't ring a bell, sorry.
[07:14] <shawarma> Gotta run!
[07:14] <bimberi> vladuz976: ah, there's a skype package for breezy here - http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[07:14] <bob2> Seveas: sure you have permission to redistribute skype?
[07:14] <shookie> An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device.
[07:14] <shookie> *** Error (-53: 'Could not claim the USB device') ***
[07:14] <mike__> I have a question about installing files in Linux. (n00b)
[07:15] <shookie> thats my error
[07:15] <deFrysk> !tell mike__ about ask
[07:15] <mike__> what is this ask
[07:15] <shookie> it freezes that command
[07:15] <ryufreak> deFrysk, thanks I got it installed
[07:15] <bob2> mike__: it means "please juats ask your question"
[07:15] <deFrysk> mike__, read what ubotu said
[07:16] <mike__> shit, ok
[07:16] <deFrysk> :D
[07:16] <mike__> it isnt so easy as clicking an exe file
[07:16] <mike__> what steps do i take
[07:16] <dabaR> synaptic is used to install programs in ubuntu.
[07:16] <mike__> i know i use the terminal
[07:16] <bob2> mike__: what are you trying to install?
[07:16] <dabaR> mike__: its easier. read the other url that ubotu sent you.
[07:16] <mike__> but the install files that came with the programs confused me
[07:16] <bob2> mike__: generally you do not use the terminal to install things
[07:16] <ryufreak> deFrysk, do you know why the icon of xmms doesn't show up?
[07:16] <deFrysk> ! tell mike about repositoreis
[07:16] <ubotu> deFrysk: I give up, what is it?
[07:16] <mike__> ok
[07:16] <mike__> thanks
[07:16] <deFrysk> !tel mike about synaptic
[07:16] <ubotu> deFrysk: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:17] <bob2> mike__: you need to be more specific and tell us what you're tryign to install
[07:17] <deFrysk> !tell mike about synaptic
[07:17] <deFrysk> !tell mike__  about apt-get
[07:17] <dabaR> mike__: and, you usually do not install things from somewhere, but only from the ubuntu oficial repositories.
[07:17] <bob2> deFrysk: that's not very helpful
[07:18] <deFrysk> bob2, sorry , havent had coffee jet ;s
[07:18] <mike__> thanks guys, gives me something to read... i may be back..
[07:19] <dabaR> mike__: what are you installing, tho?
[07:19] <mike__> i wanted XFCE
[07:19] <ryufreak> is there anyway to integrate a terminal onto my desktop?
[07:19] <mike__> and Winamp
[07:19] <dabaR> its in the repos
[07:19] <vladuz976> bimberi, thanks
[07:19] <dabaR> winamp is called xmms in linux.
[07:19] <dabaR> hehe
[07:19] <mike__> just a bunch of software
[07:19] <bob2> ryufreak: integrate, how?
[07:19] <mike__> wanted to tinker with it all night
[07:19] <deFrysk> mike__, linux uses xmms or beep-media-player , not winamp
[07:19] <bob2> mike__: normally you just select them in synaptic and hit "install"
[07:19] <ryufreak> like have a terminal box right in my desktop itself
[07:20] <mike__> there is a winamp player for linux..
[07:20] <ryufreak> where i can actually type into it
[07:20] <bob2> ryufreak: why?
[07:20] <mike__> i wanted the internet tv
[07:20] <bob2> ryufreak: how is that different to having a terminal window?
[07:20] <ryufreak> i hate constantly opening up a terminal, or alt tabing to it
[07:20] <ryufreak> especially when i have 10 apps running
[07:20] <bob2> ryufreak: how do you plan to access it if it's "in the desktop itself"?
[07:21] <dabaR> ryufreak: there is a command line applet in right click on panel>add to panel...
[07:21] <dabaR> bob2: maybe that is what he will like.
[07:21] <dabaR> or a non-yoda speak version of that sentence
[07:21] <ryufreak> yes i know that one, but i'm talking about a terminal directly on my desktop
[07:21] <ryufreak> directly on my background
[07:21] <bob2> ryufreak: how would you access it?
[07:21] <AdmiralSenn> wahoo, huge problems
[07:22] <ryufreak> click here to hide all windows + show desktop =/
[07:22] <AdmiralSenn> I'm currently on my livecd because I managed to break something important
[07:22] <Oris> Toma: :DDDDDDDDD
[07:22] <bob2> ryufreak: why don't you just use a seperate desktop for it?
[07:22] <ryufreak> i was wondering if it was integratable though
[07:22] <bob2> ryufreak: then it's one less click
[07:22] <ryufreak> what do you mean?
[07:22] <AdmiralSenn> I was using Partition Magic to resize some of my partitions in windows (and now I know it's a bad idea to do that)
[07:22] <bob2> ryufreak: do you know about virtual desktops?
[07:22] <AdmiralSenn> and now grub tries to load but can't find any partitions
[07:22] <AdmiralSenn> but ubuntu setup finds them fine.....
[07:23] <ryufreak> dual monitors?
[07:23] <bob2> ryufreak: no
[07:23] <AdmiralSenn> so I need to reinstall grub and/or fix fstab
[07:23] <Oris> Toma: It works! I found the way :D here: noacpi apm=off acpi=off no-hit and it doesn't monitor temperature!
[07:23] <bob2> ryufreak: look at the bottom of your screen.  see 4 squares in a row?
[07:23] <deFrysk> ryufreak, the 4 squares in your panel
[07:23] <ryufreak> right, oh i see
[07:23] <MadpilotPPC> ryufreak, by default Ubuntu has four virtual desktops running...
[07:23] <bob2> AdmiralSenn: chroot into your system fro mthe live cd, run "sudo update-grub"
[07:23] <bob2> ryufreak: click on the second one
[07:23] <Oris> Toma: thank you - bye
[07:23] <ryufreak> yes i see that
[07:23] <bob2> ryufreak: clicking on the first one brings you back where you are
[07:23] <ryufreak> that'll work lol, thanks
[07:24] <bob2> ryufreak: you can bind keys to switch, too
[07:24] <ryufreak> how so?
[07:24] <Toma-> cool
[07:24] <bob2> ryufreak: I have 12 desktops, each only has one app on it; ctrl-f5 gets me my editor
[07:24] <deFrysk> ryufreak, you can even set your mousewheel to switch desktops (forgot howto tho)
[07:24] <bob2> ust like I left it
[07:24] <AdmiralSenn> bob2, uhh... how do I use chroot?
[07:24] <MadpilotPPC> deFrysk, ryufreak hover your cursor over the virtual desktop switcher, and scroll your mouse wheel...
[07:25] <dabaR> 12 desktops heh
[07:25] <bob2> AdmiralSenn: chroot /wherever/your/root/partition/is/mounted
[07:25] <AdmiralSenn> I'm not sure how this will help since the livecd isn't seeing any hard drive partitions at the moment.....
[07:25] <bob2> dabaR: I'd have more but I ran out of function keys ;)
[07:25] <MadpilotPPC> I run 6 usually
[07:25] <ryufreak> i see
[07:25] <bob2> ryufreak: system -> preferences -> keybdingins
[07:25] <deFrysk> MadpilotPPC, Ah :) that one I did not mean but works fine , I ment the xfce4 way
[07:25] <dabaR> ah, yes, the 12 f keys...
[07:26] <ryufreak> keyboard shortcuts?
[07:26] <bitblit> k so if I install ubuntu 5.10 preview, can I upgrade in place when it is released?
[07:26] <dabaR> I dont use that, I roll up windows with the scroll button of the mouse in openbox.
[07:26] <bob2> bitblit: yes
[07:26] <bitblit> bob2, ty
[07:26] <deFrysk> bitblit, yup
[07:26] <Travis|H> hmm so i installed totem-xine ... wmv plays now ... however the browser plugin sort of plays 1-2 seconds of the clip and immediately stops and i can't start it again
[07:26] <jdermer> is there an easy way to upgrade my kernel with ubuntu
[07:26] <bob2> dabaR: try to avoid the mouse as much as possible, plus no scroll wheel on my laptop
[07:26] <bob2> jdermer: upgrade to what?
[07:26] <jdermer> like a newer one i guess
[07:27] <jdermer> im sorta noob so bear with me heh
[07:27] <Travis|H> i need to download the wmv to my hard drive to play it back .. browser plugin is being fussy
[07:27] <bitblit> I'm trying to decide if I should switch from Gentoo to Ubuntu. I'm totally new to linux, and have Gentoo limping along. I'm tired of mapping mouse buttons and compiling sound drivers in my kernel :)
[07:27] <jdermer> Gentoo and Ubuntu are my fav distros
[07:27] <jdermer> Ubuntu is def easier tho
[07:27] <ice_1963> that's apt-get upgrade :0)
[07:27] <bitblit> i take it ubuntu works out of the box more?
[07:27] <AdmiralSenn> bob2, the point is that I don't have any partitions mounted!
[07:27] <bob2> jdermer: why do you want a newer one?
[07:27] <bimberi> Now that is good - I added some extra desktops and presto, extra available keybindings to match!
[07:27] <MadpilotPPC> bitblit, for most installs, yes.
[07:28] <bob2> AdmiralSenn: ok!
[07:28] <jdermer> i like having new stuff
[07:28] <jdermer> but the biggest reason is my video
[07:28] <bosch>
[07:28] <B_166-ER-X> i have openoffice by default, is it worth installing openoffice2 ?
[07:28] <bob2> jdermer: ubuntu is not for you, then
[07:28] <ice_1963> bob2 hello
[07:28] <JDahl> B_166-ER-X, yes, most definitely
[07:28] <deFrysk> bitblit, using ubuntu would make file very much easyer for you
[07:28] <jdermer> no i mean kernel
[07:28] <jdermer> not in general
[07:28] <deFrysk> file = life
[07:28] <bob2> jdermer: yes, I know; why do you need a newer one?
[07:28] <Hobbsee> B_166-ER-X: as long as you get the most recent version
[07:28] <bosch> http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=847.0
[07:28] <dabaR> Has anyone repartitioned their ntfs hard drive using the live cd? I would like to know how easy, reliable, and what teh steps are that are involved.
[07:29] <jdermer> my video card 3d acceleration is being odd
[07:29] <Hobbsee> B_166-ER-X: the one in the reps are very outdated
[07:29] <jdermer> i think a new kernel may help
[07:29] <bitblit> deFrysk, rofl :)
[07:29] <B_166-ER-X> synaptic list <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:29] <bob2> jdermer: and the card is?
[07:29] <bitblit> what is Colony 5?
[07:29] <Hobbsee> B_166-ER-X: yeah, it's up to 1.9.130
[07:29] <Hobbsee> !colony 5
[07:29] <ubotu> Hobbsee: I don't know
[07:29] <B_166-ER-X> urgh
[07:29] <jdermer> integrated intel i915
[07:29] <Hobbsee> !colony5
[07:29] <ubotu> Hobbsee: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:29] <deFrysk> bitblit, a pre-version of breezy
[07:29] <bitblit> looks like a different version of 510 that i'm downloading
[07:30] <dabaR> bosch: are you asking a question?
[07:30] <bob2> jdermer: I'd be very surprised if going past 2.6.12 helped
[07:30] <Hobbsee> bitblit: what version are you downloading?
[07:30] <bitblit> says ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso
[07:30] <thewayofzen> question:  sound always works in gnome.  in xfce4 fluxbox or blackbox it always seems as though it stops working and will not work unless i type  est & into a command window.  is there a way to ensure that the sound server starts automatically
[07:30] <bitblit> not sure what breezy is
[07:31] <Travis|H> bitblit: breezy is not officially out yet .. the current stable release is called Hoary Hedgehog
[07:31] <Travis|H> Breezy Badger is slated to come out some time in October .. but there was a Preview Release (release candidate basically) that came out earlier this month
[07:31] <cafuego_> !info beagle breezy
[07:31] <ubotu> beagle: (Desktop search tool), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 777 kB, Installed size: 2668 kB
[07:32] <Travis|H> and the latest test version (and likely last to be compiled before the final version is out) is Colony 5
[07:32] <cafuego_> Travis|H: 2 days ago, Colony5.
[07:32] <bitblit> Travis|H, so what should i get for a new install?
[07:32] <mae> Linux ROCKS!
[07:32] <jdermer> bob2, can u tell me how to upgrade the kernel tho
[07:32] <Toma-> mae: no, i do.
[07:32] <jdermer> id like to try
[07:32] <bob2> jdermer: you can't, in general
[07:32] <bob2> jdermer: not unless you really know what you're doing
[07:32] <cafuego_> lying bot
[07:32] <mae> Has anyone given banshee a whirl? it is pretty buggy right now but looks very promising, there are so many features already in the short time it has been released.
[07:32] <Travis|H> bitblit: well ... for guaranteed stability and compatibility with the unofficial ubuntu starter guide ... 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog)
[07:32] <Amaranth> 0.0.13? i thought beagle 0.1.0 was out with huge ammounts of fixes
[07:32] <bob2> jdermer: if you're having issues with the breezy kernel, you really do need to file a bug
[07:32] <thewayofzen> jdermer,  i tried to brave it and i ended up with a big mess of kernel panick.
[07:33] <ice_1963> with breezy can i jest install xfce4 not gnome?
[07:33] <jdermer> ive recompiled a kernel before man
[07:33] <bitblit> I'm confused because i have two pages up, both for Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger), one says Preview, one says Colony CD 5
[07:33] <bob2> jdermer: good for you
[07:33] <jdermer> im just asking if theres an easy ubuntu way like with gentoo
[07:33] <bob2> jdermer: the ubuntu kernel is pretty tightly coupled to the userland in ubuntu
[07:33] <[LethAL] > ice_1963, Yes...
[07:33] <Travis|H> bitblit: well if you are going to install Breezy, install Colony CD 5
[07:33] <bob2> jdermer: sure, make-kpkg
[07:33] <ice_1963> how
[07:33] <cafuego_> !info beagle breezy
[07:33] <mae> Is breezy still on schedule for october, or is it delayed?
[07:33] <bob2> jdermer: you're on your own when it breaks, tho
[07:33] <bitblit> Travis|H, k ty
[07:33] <ubotu> beagle: (Desktop search tool), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.0-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 827 kB, Installed size: 3052 kB
[07:33] <Jack_B> where can i open kdevelop if i'm using gnome?
[07:33] <thewayofzen> bob2,  advice on having esd start auto matically in fluxbox/blackbox/xfce4  id rather not have to type esd & into console.. gnome sound ALWAYS works.. id kinda like that for any WM i use.
[07:33] <cafuego_> Yeah, thought so.
[07:34] <vladuz976> Seveas, what does your ubuntu-apt-utils do?
[07:34] <Amaranth> hehe
[07:34] <ice_1963> jest tip server
[07:34] <Toma-> thewayofzen: tinker with your .xfce settings
[07:34] <bitblit> Travis|H, I take it colony 5 is just an updated preview build?
[07:34] <Amaranth> cafuego_ apt-get update? :)
[07:34] <Travis|H> bitblit: yea
[07:34] <cafuego_> Amaranth: sudo rm /var/lib/blootbot/ubuntu/*breezy*
[07:34] <Toma-> thewayofzen: also, ask in #xfce
[07:34] <bitblit> Travis|H, cool, ty.
[07:34] <bob2> thewayofzen: I'd just make a ~/.xsession and run everything out of that
[07:34] <AdmiralSenn> so anyone have any idea how to get back into my hard drive?
[07:35] <Amaranth> *groan*, xchat won't filter out Travis|H so it beeps when someone says his nick
[07:35] <Jack_B> hey fellas, how can i access kdevelop using the gnome gui?
[07:35] <Toma-> poor Travis|H
[07:35] <Travis|H> ?
[07:35] <AdmiralSenn> I suppose I could just reformat my partitions and lose all my data
[07:35] <Toma-> Jack_B: just run the command
[07:35] <AdmiralSenn> which I'm not going to do..
[07:36] <Jack_B> ok
[07:36] <Amaranth> Jack_B: install it from synaptic then it should either be in the menus or you can open a console and run it from there
[07:36] <jdermer> bob2, i got 2.6.10-5 kernel right now
[07:36] <jdermer> how can i get to the .12
[07:36] <Travis|H> Amaranth: why is it beeping when someone says my nickname?
[07:36] <ryufreak> anyone have any luck installing an ati x800 series pci-e card?
[07:36] <Jack_B> amaranth: it's not displayed in the menus
[07:36] <jdermer> im using 5.04 not 5.10
[07:36] <dabaR> Travis|H: thats his name.
[07:36] <Jack_B> Amaranth, i've already installed btw
[07:36] <Amaranth> Travis|H: I have it beep when someone says 'travis', seeing how that's my first name. :)
[07:36] <Travis|H> oh i see :)
[07:37] <Amaranth> i just turned it off for now, i'll beat xchat into working right later
[07:37] <ice_1963> i'm running kernel-2.6.12-1
[07:37] <bob2> jdermer: wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes
[07:37] <Jack_B> holy crap kdevelop pwns my 128mb sd ram
[07:37] <Travis|H> anywho .. i'm having a bit of a funky issue .. i'm using totem-xine, w32codecs, and the Totem Mozilla Plugin 1.2.0 ..... when i open up to a page with an embeded wmv the video loads up fine and plays for a very short blip (1-2 seconds) and then stops .. and it won't let me hit the play button
[07:38] <Travis|H> i get a short blip of video and sound .. and totem can play the file fine from my hard drive
[07:38] <Travis|H> just the plugin is being fishy ....... anyone encounter that .. or have any idea how i might fix it?
[07:38] <henke> Travis|H, I have the same issue. I havn't looked for a solution though.
[07:38] <Travis|H> hmmm well its nice knowing im not alone .. thanks henke
[07:38] <Toma-> use mplayer plugin
[07:38] <Cryptid> I Need Java2 Runtime From where Do i get it I cannot find it in Synaptic (i added the multiverse repos also)
[07:39] <MadpilotPPC> !tell Cryptid about java
[07:39] <dabaR> Cryptid: Sun's java is proprietary, and no other organization than SUn can distribute it, legally.
[07:40] <cafuego_> Cryptid: Use java-package. See wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[07:40] <esac> what can i install to control power options, cpu frequency, suspend, hibernate, etc... ?
[07:40] <MadpilotPPC> Is there no RealPlayer for PPC hardware?
[07:41] <bitblit> MadpilotPPC, doesn't vlc play that format?
[07:41] <Chousuke> MadpilotPPC: Probably not.
[07:41] <tristanmike> Can anyone help me with file transfer for a Yahoo account in Gaim, as in I can't. It appears that everything goes fine, no errors on my end, but when my yahoo friend get's the file, even a small screenshot png, it says it's an html on the other end and wont open
[07:41] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: sorry no
[07:41] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: we are red headed step children
[07:41] <MadpilotPPC> nalioth, meh. Any way to play Real streams, then?
[07:41] <tristanmike> lol
[07:42] <dabaR> realplayer for mac osx exists...
[07:42] <ryufreak> what does codec fall under in synaptic?
[07:42] <cafuego_> !codecs
[07:42] <ubotu> somebody said codecs was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:42] <Chousuke> The only OS on PPC that works for all that proprietary stuff is OS X :P
[07:42] <MadpilotPPC> ryufreak, use the Search button, it's faster than messing with the categories
[07:42] <ryufreak> good diea
[07:42] <ryufreak> idea*
[07:43] <crafteh> when i click the logout button and the background is fading, my mouse starts to jump a lot. does this happen to anyone else? whenever the fading occurs it does...
[07:43] <MadpilotPPC> My favourite local radio station streams only in Real & WMA (actually asp-something) and I can't play either on this machine! :(
[07:44] <bugz_> is the livna ATI driver have 3d support?
[07:44] <cafuego_> MadpilotPPC: Email them and ask them why they don't podcast.
[07:44] <pussfeller> REAL AND wma can ussually be played
[07:44] <MadpilotPPC> cafuego, I'd settle for a basic MP3 stream, frankly
[07:44] <pussfeller> real releases a linux client, helix player or something
[07:44] <Travis|H> so XMMS from the repositors uses gtk1 to draw the menu's .. is there a gtk2 version of xmms .. same question for gmplayer ... it seems rhythmbox and totem are gonna have to be pushed aside because they're not co-operating with me
[07:45] <ryufreak> i just searched realplayer, and i think the command is sudo apt-get install realplayer
[07:45] <pussfeller> you can get it from their website too
[07:45] <ice_1963> it is
[07:45] <ryufreak> MadpilotPCC, try it, and see if it works out for you
[07:45] <MadpilotPPC> ryufreak, PPC machines use a different repository to x86 machines - I've already searched for it...
[07:46] <ryufreak> oh
[07:46] <mae> Personally I think java is dead.
[07:46] <mae> not yet, but eventually..
[07:46] <AdmiralSenn> so.... say I'm trying to mount a reiser partition
[07:46] <AdmiralSenn> what's the command?
[07:46] <AdmiralSenn> -t reiserfs?
[07:46] <mae> but it did have a place in pushing forth alot of new technologies building on its innovative ideas
[07:46] <Chousuke> mae: It's widely used still :/
[07:47] <MadpilotPPC> Java is going to be a long time dying, I think...
[07:47] <mae> Chousuke, yah, i know its not dead now, but what I mean is that I think from this point it will just stabilise for awhile and then decline..
[07:47] <alisher> does anyone know how to make xchat play sounds. Where is the directory with sound files?
[07:47] <mae> with all the new portable languages like ruby/python/.NET and their cil and il
[07:48] <mae> perhaps the future for java will be putting it on cil/il and using it like that
[07:48] <ryufreak> SDK will always be building servers for big companies, it won't die for a while
[07:48] <pussfeller> cil il?
[07:48] <mae> common language infrastructure and intermediate language a la mono and ms .net
[07:48] <JDahl> mae, all technologies eventually are replaced
[07:49] <mae> JDahl, I disagree, C has been around for a looong time and is still widely used for many projects
[07:49] <MadpilotPPC> dog, FF has an awkward method of changing external app calls - Opera is so much easier...
[07:49] <mae> mainly because it is a simple low-overhead language which makes it play nice with many other software
[07:50] <crafteh> when i click the logout button and the background is fading, my mouse starts to jump a lot. does this happen to anyone else? whenever the fading occurs it does...
[07:50] <tristanmike> any help with Gaim?
[07:50] <vbgunz> hey everyone... I think I found a bug with GPA for GnuPG... Can someone confirm?
[07:50] <Cryptid> cafuego & Madpilot i am getting this error when i try to download Java "E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate" as mentioned on wiki.ubuntu.com this command dosent work "sudo apt-get install j2re1.4"
[07:50] <dabaR> how do you make a server, such as gdm start when you boot? something along the lines of sudo invoke-rc.d gdm add
[07:50] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: most of the linux things (like realplayer) are compiled for x86
[07:50] <dabaR> It does not start at boot atm, but can be started from the console.
[07:50] <vbgunz> dabaR: /etc/init.d/gdm start?
[07:50] <vladuz976> Seveas, how can i get access to download w3codecs?
[07:51] <dabaR> vbgunz: that would just start it at that time. I want it to start every time I boot.
[07:51] <vbgunz> sudo first*
[07:51] <MadpilotPPC> nalioth, I'm finding that out... I'll be glad to get back to my own (x86) machine in a week or two...
[07:51] <mae> JDahl, but ya in the long run, sure.. who knows, maybe in the future all processors will have a builtin coprocessor that translates some common IL which would be the zen of portability and performance :) a hardware solution for translating
[07:51] <vbgunz> vbgunz: oh, not on that level...
[07:51] <dabaR> stop talking to yuorself:P
[07:51] <vladuz976> bimberi, i can't use seveas' skype coz it depends on w3codecs and i need authentication to download that
[07:51] <nalioth> Cryptid: hoary or breezy?
[07:51] <vbgunz> can you maybe once logged in go to system > preference > session > startup and config it there?
[07:52] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: yes you will then have an appreciation for what we PPC users go thru who choose to run linux
[07:52] <Cryptid> nalioth, hoary
[07:52] <ryufreak> i still can't get these codec's to work.....
[07:52] <vbgunz> can someone maybe help me confirm a bug with GPA for GnuPG?
[07:52] <ryufreak> libxklavier is the only codec in synaptic
[07:52] <nalioth> Cryptid: get your hot java here http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[07:53] <tristanmike> hot java, lol, that's funny for so many reasons
[07:53] <dabaR> vbgunz: heh. that would make gdm start after I log into my gnome-session
[07:53] <MadpilotPPC> ryufreak, which codecs are you trying to get?
[07:53] <ryufreak> divx, ac3, and something to run subs
[07:54] <MadpilotPPC> ryufreak, no idea what a sub is, but the first two should work with w32codecs, AFAIK
[07:54] <Cryptid> nalioth, Thanx now i can install Azureus,,, ne can u tell me y did they remove w32codes and java from synaptic
[07:54] <vbgunz> dabaR: thanks... I am learning from your problem too ;)
[07:54] <ryufreak> subtitle = subs
[07:54] <vbgunz> dabaR: Hope you get it fixed
[07:54] <tristanmike> Cryptid, they were removed from the repos, yes
[07:54] <vbgunz> dabaR: how do you think that happened?
[07:54] <Travis|H> ryufreak: VLC supports subtitles
[07:54] <Chousuke> ryufreak: just install VLC
[07:55] <Cryptid> tristanmike, but Y?
[07:55] <ryufreak> that in synaptic?
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> W32codecs -->  http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[07:55] <Chousuke> yes.
[07:55] <oga> If I place a order of a few ubuntu cd's at shipit, will the hoary cd's be shipped, or breezy? (in october though)
[07:55] <vbgunz> hey everyone, I am downloading k3b because I need a burner... is this ok?
[07:55] <Chousuke> w32codecs is in synaptic too
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> k3b is a very nice tool.
[07:55] <MadpilotPPC> vbgunz, sure. it's a better app than GnomeBaker, IMO...
[07:55] <Cryptid> oga, i breezy cd will be shiped i already placed the order for Breezy
[07:55] <ryufreak> can't find it :(
[07:55] <ryufreak> using search
[07:55] <dabaR> vbgunz: this guy has a weird hoary install, did not even install OO.o for him,
[07:56] <MadpilotPPC> Chousuke, not any more it's not... ;)
[07:56] <Cryptid> vbgunz, get gnomebaker
[07:56] <Travis|H> w32codecs was taken out ryufreak .. i just went through the same thing not more than an hour ago
[07:56] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: When I selected k3b, a bunch of files got selected with it... I agreed to them all... should this be all that I need?
[07:56] <bobulor> greetings everyone
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  its a kde app.. so it will install most of the kde stuff.
[07:56] <Travis|H> i got the .deb from the bittorrent site Dr_Willis posted and it worked fine
[07:56] <vbgunz> gnomebaker?
[07:56] <Cryptid> vbgunz, yes u will need all those files
[07:56] <MadpilotPPC> ryufreak, are you following the wiki's RestrictedFormats page? it's all up to date
[07:56] <ryufreak> could you link me?
[07:56] <bobulor> crimsun: I'm in dire straights with my sound system
[07:56] <MadpilotPPC> !tell ryufreak about restricted
[07:57] <Travis|H> RestrictedFormats page still says to apt-get install w32codecs .. it was taken out of the repositories .. so that's a no go
[07:57] <MadpilotPPC> Travis|H, no it doesn't - it's up to date, trust me.
[07:57] <oga> If I place a order of a few ubuntu cd's at shipit _today_, will the hoary cd's be shipped, or breezy? (in october though)
[07:57] <vbgunz> it's cool... this is my first question along these lines... *if* I choose to uninstall a program I install through Synaptic will fragments of the application be left behind??
[07:57] <Chousuke> hmm.
[07:57] <Chousuke> vbgunz: configs.
[07:57] <Cryptid> vbgunz gettting gnomebaker is better u need to download a very sall file but in Case of K3b u will need to download all KDE support files so its better to get GnomeBaker
[07:57] <Chousuke> vbgunz: you can purge them with --purge
[07:58] <MadpilotPPC> vbgunz, configs will be left behind, unless you choose "complete uninstall" in Synaptic
[07:58] <Chousuke> or by selecting purge from the menu
[07:58] <Travis|H> MadpilotPPC: I am looking at it right now https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats
[07:58] <esac> i am trying to install gnome-cpufreq-applet and it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop. any ideas why ?
[07:58] <vbgunz> this is one of the reasons why I wish to switch from Windows to Linux... I have this belief nothing will get left behind on uninstall... slowing the system down, etc...
[07:58] <cafuego_> Well, except for the bit where gnomebaker appears to be unable to burn audio cds.
[07:58] <bobulor> crimsun: sound only works for Totem Movie Player (crappily). When I talked to the computer help center for my school, they said to update all my drivers. But I don't know how to go about doing that.
[07:58] <Jack_B> how do i add shortcuts for programs onto the gnome taskbar?
[07:58] <MadpilotPPC> Travis|H, please read the whole page - you need to add a seperate repo to get w32codecs...
[07:58] <cafuego_> esac: the cpu freq thingie should already be in the list of stuff to be added to the panel.
[07:58] <esac> vbgunz: i wouldn't count on it. unless you 100% know what you are doing, it is very often that you'll leave behind a dependency that is no longer needed
[07:59] <AdmiralSenn> okay, take two
[07:59] <vbgunz> Chousuke: when and where do I use the purge command? does it go by itself on the command line?
[07:59] <bobulor> crimsun: any suggestions?
[07:59] <cafuego_> Jack_B: Right-click the bar, choose 'Add...' and then choose launcher.
[07:59] <AdmiralSenn> what is the option for the mount command to do a reiser filesystem? -t reiserfs?
[07:59] <Jack_B> thanks cafuego
[07:59] <esac> cafuego: it seems to be a scaled down version of one i've seen before. i can't seem to set what frequency i want to run at with this one
[07:59] <MadpilotPPC> AdmiralSenn, "man mount" might have answers
[08:00] <crimsun> bobulor, you're going to have to be considerably more detailed
[08:00] <cafuego_> esac: No, this one only reports what powernowd has chosen for you. (it scales depending on how busy the cpu is)
[08:00] <mae> whats the name of the OSS project thats trying to clone howl?
[08:00] <alexandre> hello
[08:00] <vbgunz> esac: that was just one of the reasons why I in a sense started to despise windows... things just kept getting left behind... The system got slower even if I unstalled it all... man..
[08:00] <AdmiralSenn> I did that
[08:00] <cafuego_> esac: ie: When you're not doing much, it'll always be as slow as it can be.
[08:00] <AdmiralSenn> it doesn't go over every single filesystem it can handle
[08:00] <Cryptid> cafuego_, Well Gnome Baker can make Audio cds i made 1 jus yesterday
[08:00] <mae> Cryptid, have you tried serpentine?
[08:00] <cafuego_> Cryptid: Not on amd64 breezy, completely hangs.
[08:00] <alexandre> i need help for Ubuntu ???
[08:00] <esac> cafuego: any idea what i can install to control that. unfortunately vmware doesn't seem to pass through its need for cpu and it runs as slow as a dog
[08:00] <AdmiralSenn> more specifically I need to know what filesystem ubuntu uses by default and what the mount option for it is
[08:00] <MadpilotPPC> AdmiralSenn, try "man -k reiser" - that will search the man files for resier...
[08:01] <mahangu> any recommendations for a ftp client i can apt-get?
[08:01] <Cryptid> mae, what is serpentine
[08:01] <crimsun> cafuego_, ugh. Where does it hang?
[08:01] <MadpilotPPC> AdmiralSenn, ext3 by default, AFAIK
[08:01] <bobulor> crimsun: how do I determine the sound system running in my computer? Would it be Alsa?
[08:01] <cafuego_> esac: Disable powernowd, that should force it to run at full speed.
[08:01] <oga> If I place a order of a few ubuntu cd's at shipit _today_, will the hoary cd's be shipped, or breezy? (in october though) ?
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> i tend to use 'mc' for my ftp needs. but thats old-skool
[08:01] <crimsun> bobulor, by default, yes.
[08:01] <ryufreak> what does W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[08:01] <ryufreak>  mean
[08:01] <tristanmike> oga, breezy full release cds
[08:01] <bobulor> crimsun, so, I should go hunt down alsa drivers?
[08:01] <cafuego_> crimsun: it convers the mp3 tracks to wav, then stops.
[08:01] <crimsun> ryufreak, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary
[08:01] <oga> tristanmike, you sure?
[08:01] <Cryptid> oga, Breezy will be Shipped not hoary
[08:01] <crimsun> bobulor, not yet. That's the last resort.
[08:01] <oga> ok :)
[08:02] <cafuego_> crimsun: I can cd to the tempdir then burn using cdrecord in a for loop without any problems.
[08:02] <AdmiralSenn> nothing
[08:02] <tristanmike> oga, yeah, if you order Breezy will be shipped not Hoary, in fact the shipit page says that
[08:02] <crimsun> cafuego_, hmm, ok.
[08:02] <bobulor> crimsun: what would be a good first resort?
[08:02] <alexandre> i install breezy on my laptop
[08:02] <crimsun> bobulor, cat /proc/asound/modules
[08:02] <bobulor> crimsun, in terminal?
[08:03] <mahangu> ftp client for ubuntu, anyone?
[08:03] <AdmiralSenn> well, apparently it doesn't use reiser, ext2 or ext3
[08:03] <B_166-ER-X> wtf, is that normal ? i just install openoffice2 from synaptic, and at the splash screen its 'Open office 1.1' but the 1.1 have a red X on it , and 2.0 over it, like 'hand-writen' !!??
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> lol
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> how unprofessional.
[08:03] <Cryptid> mahangu, gftp is good
[08:03] <mahangu> Cryptid, does it ship with ubuntu? or do i have to d/l it?
[08:04] <bobulor> crimsun: I typed "cat /proc/asound/modules" and got the reply "0 snd_intel8x0"
[08:04] <MadpilotPPC> B_166-ER-X, 2.0 is a beta still...
[08:04] <Cryptid> mahangu, download it from synaptic
[08:04] <oneifreak> B_166-ER-X: ive seen that before
[08:04] <crimsun> bobulor, ok. Are you using Hoary or Breezy?
[08:04] <bobulor> crimsun, good question, I'll look around in synaptic
[08:04] <B_166-ER-X> well, it doenst look like openoffice2 from Breezy at all..
[08:05] <ryufreak> "Merge the archive key for debian-marillat into your default user's keyring" how do i do that?
[08:05] <calvin> can anyone help me with an EXE question (Very new to ubuntu)?
[08:05] <smott> just ask
[08:05] <crimsun> bobulor, lsb_release -a will tell you
[08:05] <JDahl> ryufreak, breezy is not every released, and you're already busy breaking it?
[08:05] <calvin> is there anyway to install exe programs in ubuntu?
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> EXE?
[08:05] <tristanmike> calvin, there are no exe's in linux
[08:06] <tristanmike> calvin, exe is a Windows only file
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> time for a wine/faq/ url.
[08:06] <tristanmike> lol
[08:06] <smott> calvin: we have elfs in linux, not exes
[08:06] <ryufreak> JDahl, I just want some codec's :( lol
[08:06] <bobulor> crimsun, I use Hoary Hedgehog
[08:06] <calvin> How can I get photoshop for ubuntu, or can i"
[08:06] <calvin> ?
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> !wine
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> type "!wine" and read the bots message
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> you MAY be able to run it with 'wine'
[08:07] <ryufreak> photoshop is gimp
[08:07] <crimsun> bobulor, are you using an ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf?
[08:07] <MadpilotPPC> calvin, try the GIMP instead - it's installed in Ubuntu by default
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> or use gimp - it can do most all the basic tasks.
[08:07] <B_166-ER-X> !openoffice2.org splash screen odities
[08:07] <ubotu> Wish i knew, B_166-ER-X
[08:07] <B_166-ER-X> (..)
[08:07] <bobulor> crimsun, will typing either one tell me?
[08:07] <calvin> is there any conversion?, I kinda need it for my online class for college
[08:07] <crimsun> bobulor, no. ls -l ~/.asoundrc /etc/asound.conf
[08:08] <aftertaf> boing :)
[08:08] <ryufreak> calvin, why not dual boot windows if you need it?
[08:08] <MadpilotPPC> calvin, you might be able to get Photoshop running in Wine
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> if the class is teaching photoshop - you will proberly want to use photpshop then
[08:08] <aftertaf> linner:  morning k: )
[08:08] <linner> aftertaf:  HEY!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:08] <linner> aftertaf:  i was just thinking about you
[08:08] <calvin> I lost my XP disk, main reason for being persistant about it in ubuntu
[08:09] <aftertaf> linner:  nice ;)
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run [some]  windows programs.
[08:09] <calvin> what is wine?
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> type "!wine" and read the bots message
[08:09] <linner> did you get all 12 of my emails this morning???  *laughing*
[08:09] <calvin> !wine
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> :) like i said earlier.
[08:09] <tristanmike> calvin, have a look at gimp-shop, it's a plugin that makes all the menus and stuff as close to photoshop as possible
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> lol
[08:10] <dbzdeath2> !wine
[08:10] <bobulor> crimsun, I typed "ls -l ~/.asoundrc /etc/asound.conf" and it said No such file or directory for "ls: /home/robert/.asoundrc" and "ls: /etc/asound.conf"
[08:10] <aftertaf> lol linner yeah... 3, not 12 ;)
[08:10] <linner> you get what i mean
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> !beer
[08:10] <ubotu> No idea, Dr_Willis
[08:10] <ryufreak> gah, damn codecs!
[08:10] <linner> big time probs with my keyboard
[08:11] <ice_1963> it's best to for get window's and jest use linux :0)
[08:11] <aftertaf> hehe.... typing with forehead does have its disadvantages...
[08:11] <crimsun> bobulor, what about for ~/.asoundrc ?
[08:11] <vbgunz> how do I uninstall an application in which I installed through the command line interface?
[08:11] <crimsun> bobulor, err, sorry. Your statement was cut off.
[08:11] <aftertaf> vbgunz:  with apt-get?
[08:12] <calvin> where can I find programs that are for ubuntu, games, utilitites and such?
[08:12] <kingemer> hey, the link for the docs in the topic needs a capital D
[08:12] <vbgunz> aftertaf: yes
[08:12] <bobulor> crimsun, why?
[08:12] <vbgunz> apt-get install gpa
[08:12] <aftertaf> vbgunz:  synaptic... or apt-get remove.
[08:12] <MadpilotPPC> kingemer, good catch!
[08:12] <aftertaf> vbgunz:  synaptic is a gui frontend for apt
[08:12] <Jack_B> what's a good firewall besides firestarter?
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> calvin,  synaptic - is the tool to learn to use and love
[08:12] <crimsun> bobulor, it's a local client screen width issue
[08:12] <tristanmike> ryufreak, did you figure out how to install that key, the apt authentication thingy?
[08:12] <bobulor> crimsun, o
[08:13] <brownie17> bob2, i am using kino, which you recommended me (i think), and i go to open a ".mpg" file and it gives me an error, like invalid format or something
[08:13] <vbgunz> aftertaf: thanks!
[08:13] <calvin> where is synaptic?
[08:13] <kingemer> MadpilotPPC: just doing my duty :-)
[08:13] <ryufreak> nope
[08:13] <Jack_B> look for synaptic under system, administration
[08:13] <B_166-ER-X> how can i have the last version of openoffice stable ?
[08:13] <brownie17> calvin, synaptic is the the sytem-> admin menu
[08:13] <ryufreak> but i googled w32codecs, and found a place to get it
[08:13] <bobulor> crimsun, i typed ~/.asoundrc and it said no such file or directory
[08:13] <ryufreak> tristanmike, try wget ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[08:13] <ryufreak> sudo dpkg -i ./w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[08:14] <bobulor> crimsun, with your earlier command it said the same thing about two other things
[08:14] <Travis|H> ugh so i am trying to figure out all this stuff for myself .. when it comes to CVS ......... CVS is just for obtaining sources right? ... or is there a special method for compiling the sources obtained via CVS?
[08:14] <Hobbsee> B_166-ER-X: check out the ubuntu guide howto on it...
[08:14] <tristanmike> ryufreak, I have them, thanx, I just want to get that archive working
[08:14] <brownie17> billytwowilly, nice name
[08:14] <crimsun> bobulor, right, that's what we were trying to figure out.
[08:14] <Hobbsee> B_166-ER-X: check out the ubuntu forums howto on it...
[08:15] <bobulor> crimsun, they were  /home/robert/.asound and  /etc/asound.conf
[08:15] <cevizoglu> Travis|H, cvs is mostly for version control, but yes, you can get unstable source code with it
[08:15] <ryufreak> just tested it, not working for me yet =/
[08:15] <brownie17> is anyone here familiar with "kino"?
[08:15] <MadpilotPPC> crimsun, want to change the /topic, pls? typo in the UserDocumentation link
[08:15] <ishit> anyone can plz tel me how to get latest repositories for ubuntu
[08:15] <cevizoglu> Travis|H, and if you get the release date right, you can get stable code with it
[08:15] <crimsun> bobulor, which totem are you using, totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[08:15] <vbgunz> how do I use the purge command... I believe Dr_willis was telling me but never finished... anyone know how to purge?
[08:15] <brownie17> ishit, type "!repos"
[08:15] <B_166-ER-X> why isnt always the last version of an app, thats listed in apt-get or synaptic ?
[08:15] <ishit> where
[08:15] <linner> brownie17:  kino is a game in vegas right?  :)
[08:15] <linner> oh wait that's KENO :)
[08:15] <Travis|H> cevizoglu: but as far as the source obtained with cvs ... just compile it normal?
[08:15] <Hobbsee> B_166-ER-X: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30866&page=29&highlight=howto+latest+openoffice - the last few posts of that
[08:15] <brownie17> linner, hahha
[08:16] <linner> :)
[08:16] <bobulor> crimsun, Movie Player using xine-lib version 1.0.0
[08:16] <brownie17> linner, i'm not trying to gamble im trying to video edit
[08:16] <cevizoglu> Travis|H, yes
[08:16] <Travis|H> ok thanks
[08:16] <Hobbsee> B_166-ER-X: who knows, but it's pretty easy to install following the last few posts on that thread
[08:16] <ishit> "!repos"
[08:16] <linner> brownie17:  yeah then going to vegas night be a problem
[08:16] <esac> if i install a program that wants to remove ubuntu-desktop, is that bad ?
[08:16] <brownie17> linner, hahah
[08:16] <ced78> ubuntu n'arrive pas a crire sur du ntfs?
[08:16] <linner> :)
[08:16] <ishit> how do i get latest repositories for ubuntu
[08:16] <ice_1963> that's bad lol
[08:17] <Hobbsee> esac: that's a metapackage, meaning it has nothing in it...it's good to install it before dist upgrading to breezy though
[08:17] <linner> do we have a french forum?
[08:17] <MadpilotPPC> !fr
[08:17] <ubotu> well, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:17] <linner> MadpilotPPC:  thank you :)
[08:17] <cevizoglu> which works better with ubuntu - pentium m or the sempron processor?  I'm a newb with intel-compat. hardware
[08:17] <crimsun> bobulor, do you mean that the sound's scratchy and pops, or ...?
[08:17] <oneifreak> rad, 242M updates :P
[08:18] <ishit> anyone
[08:18] <MustangMatt> Are there zimbra packages yet?
[08:18] <dabaR> ishit: do you know how to see what ubotu sent you? if not, answer with the IRC client program that you are using.
[08:18] <brownie17> can anyone help me with Kino? i am trying to open a .mpg file in it
[08:18] <bobulor> crimsun, imagine every concievable problem with sound, totem has it right now: pops. scratchy sound, sound that isn't accurate to what I know I should hear, etc.
[08:19] <brownie17> bobulor, sounds pretty bad
[08:19] <bobulor> crimsun, and i have the interesting problem where the speed at which the music plays tends to speed up and slow down randomly
[08:19] <esac> if im already running breezy and i do a dist-upgrade, will i get colony 5 ?
[08:19] <bobulor> crimsun, and Totem is the only thing sound will work for
[08:19] <brownie17> i am getting an error with kino and cinepaint, can anyone help me?
[08:19] <dabaR> esac: or something newer
[08:19] <ishit> how do get a copy of breezy
[08:19] <crimsun> bobulor, I thought you said sound _doesn't_ work with totem
[08:19] <brownie17> ishit, if you are having problem with hoary, then you don't need breezy
[08:20] <bobulor> crimsun, I just mentioned all my problems to the guy who put my os together for me, he said to go get a new kernel
[08:20] <bobulor> crimsun, no
[08:20] <brownie17> ishit, http://tinyurl.com/85dry
[08:20] <ishit> i am havin a BIG prob wit hoary
[08:20] <brownie17> ishit, what is it?
[08:20] <crimsun> bobulor, what's the default audio sink configured as in System>Preferences>Multimedia Systems Selector?
[08:20] <bobulor> crimsun, with totem iat leasti can hear something, with everything else i get no sound at all
[08:20] <brownie17> ishit, is it a bug or do you not know how to use it?
[08:20] <ishit> it does not instal properly on my machine
[08:20] <bobulor> crimsun, ESD
[08:20] <brownie17> ishit, what mahine are you using?
[08:21] <brownie17> bobulor, try ALSA
[08:21] <ishit> p4 2.4ghz 380mb ram
[08:21] <brownie17> !tell bobulor about ALSA
[08:21] <Feral_Kid> Could anyone plase tell me howI could install the latest version of fwbuilder 2.0.7? I am stuck with version 2.0.3, and that is impacting a project...
[08:21] <bobulor> !tell
[08:21] <NaVi> hello
[08:21] <ishit> theres never a clean installation
[08:21] <bobulor> brownie17, ???
[08:21] <scanwinder> does anyone know if there's a way to minimize america's army?
[08:22] <ice_1963> ishit that's a good one )
[08:22] <brownie17> bobulor, you said you were having problems with ESD, so try ALSA
[08:22] <NaVi> Got a question no one seems to knowfforsure.
[08:22] <dabaR> scanwinder: ctrl_
[08:22] <ishit> i hav a friend who is advanced in linux n he too has no idea
[08:22] <brownie17> bobulor, it is an alternative
[08:22] <dabaR> ctrl+c to kill it.
[08:22] <bobulor> brownie17, i switched, nothing is any better
[08:22] <Hobbsee> NaVi: say it, that's a good start
[08:22] <ishit> i hav a new prob at every instalation hehehe
[08:22] <brownie17> ishit, well maybe it is just not compatable. there is a lady in here who has been trying for weeks to make it work, and it just doesn't.
[08:23] <ishit> yea
[08:23] <NaVi> does Ubuntu have SLI support or is it coming in the next driver update from nvidia?
[08:23] <dabaR> ishit: if you want help, be responsive to questions you get asked, and ask your question in the proper way.
[08:23] <brownie17> bobulor, to switch to ALSA you don't just click switch, there are many settings which it teaches you in that there guide
[08:23] <vbgunz> can someone help me map shortcut keys to seahorse GPG signing of documents?
[08:23] <MustangMatt> dabar: I'm not asking about the official repository. I'm asking if anyone has built packages yet.
[08:23] <ishit> so i thought ill try breezy
[08:23] <vbgunz> I don't see anything in the options for a shortcut key...
[08:23] <cevizoglu> ishit, you should
[08:23] <bobulor> brownie17, a guide?
[08:23] <scanwinder> dabaR: dosent work
[08:23] <cevizoglu> ishit, but if it fails you won't know for sure until stable is released
[08:23] <scanwinder> dabaR: just tried it
[08:23] <brownie17> ishit, if that doesn't work, try another distro or give up, because theres not much chance
[08:23] <brownie17> bobulor, in that link i gave you
[08:24] <dabaR> kill the stu^id game anyhow.
[08:24] <MadpilotPPC> nalioth, do FF extensions not work on Ubuntu PPC? I can't get Adblocker and a couple others to install...
[08:24] <crimsun> bobulor, did you just select alsasink in the default audio sink?
[08:24] <ishit> y is it havin these kind of incompatibility happenin
[08:24] <NaVi> ok what an answer
[08:24] <cevizoglu> ishit, your hardware is probably not as common as other hardware
[08:24] <brownie17> crimsun, yes, i am telling him to do it the proper way
[08:24] <ishit> kk
[08:24] <Feral_Kid> I guess that mean no...
[08:25] <brownie17> ishit, what graphics card are you using? what is the error? is it an X config error?
[08:25] <crimsun> brownie17, he might need customsink -> alsasink device=plughw:0,0
[08:25] <ishit> thats the first prob
[08:25] <bobulor> brownie17, 1.) i dont see a link, 2.) yeah, i just changed to alsa in multimedia systems selector
[08:25] <ishit> but i got a way to repair that
[08:25] <brownie17> crimsun, wel try it
[08:25] <cevizoglu> ishit, which is surprising because I've had great HW support from ubuntu over all kinds of hardware
[08:25] <brownie17> bobulor, ill send it again
[08:25] <brownie17> !tell bobulor about ALSA
[08:25] <crimsun> stepping out for a moment, brb
[08:26] <brownie17> bobulor, there you go
[08:26] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: ymmv
[08:26] <bobulor> brownie17, every time you say !tell bobulor about alsa, nothing happens
[08:26] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: not only do you have the PPC wall, but the firefox version inconsistency
[08:26] <ishit> then some programs that i get through synaptic instal smoothly n dont work finally
[08:26] <NaVi> I must have missed the answer
[08:27] <MadpilotPPC> nalioth, oh, fun... this is 1.0.6, AFAIK, so it shouldn't be out of date
[08:27] <ishit> how big is the breezy downloasd
[08:27] <ishit> download
[08:27] <bobulor> brownie17, it goes from the !tell statement to the bobulor... statement, with only crimsun's statement about stepping out for a minute
[08:27] <cevizoglu> ishit, around 650 mb
[08:27] <NaVi> ok one more try
[08:27] <jamey3> I am stuck in a loop! gnome-panel keeps quitting unexpectedly. When I choose "Close" or "Restart Application" the same thing happens. How can I fix it??
[08:27] <bobulor> brownie17, still no link though
[08:27] <brownie17> bobulor, it should open another window message from ubotu, with the link and info in it
[08:27] <NaVi> Is there SLI support yet?
[08:28] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: if adblock isnt written for 1.0.6, that's an inconsistency
[08:28] <ishit> shux
[08:28] <brownie17> NaVi, no
[08:28] <Feral_Kid> This almost making me what to go back to gentoo... <sigh>
[08:28] <NaVi> oh
[08:28] <brownie17> NaVi, or so i hear
[08:28] <NaVi> ok second question
[08:28] <ishit> then once downloaded how do i instal it
[08:28] <MadpilotPPC> nalioth, it does work on x86, at least...
[08:28] <brownie17> ishit, how did you install hoary?
[08:28] <ice_1963> i got to go ishit brb :0)-
[08:28] <ishit> through a boot cd
[08:29] <cevizoglu> anyone have success/failure with an AMD 64 notebook with ubuntu?  I'm considering getting one
[08:29] <bobulor> brownie17, o, it put the link in another tab at the bottom of the window in a manner that made it seem like nothing had happened
[08:29] <NaVi> I know nothing of Linux and or programming, how can I learn linux is there a beginner tutorial?
[08:29] <MadpilotPPC> !tell NaVi about docs
[08:29] <jamey3> NaVi, look on tldp.org
[08:29] <MadpilotPPC> !tell NaVi about cli
[08:29] <brownie17> ishit, it will be approx 650 meg. it is in ISO format, which means a cd image. you can use a program like k3b to burn it to a cd. but get the live cd first, because you need it for fixing stuff if the install dosesnt work
[08:29] <bob2> cevizoglu: the specific model is a lot more important than the architecture
[08:29] <MadpilotPPC> NaVi, the two msgs from ubotu should get you started off
[08:29] <jamey3> I am stuck in a loop! gnome-panel keeps quitting unexpectedly. When I choose "Close" or "Restart Application" the same thing happens. How can I fix it??
[08:29] <brownie17> bobulor, yeah, you needed to know what to look for. sorry i assumed you knew
[08:29] <bob2> cevizoglu: using linux-laptops.net and wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam is a better plan
[08:30] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: ppc users really have to love ubuntu
[08:30] <jamey3> can anyone help me?
[08:30] <ishit> i hav a live cd of hoary so wil it help me repair hoary version
[08:31] <MadpilotPPC> nalioth, I'm getting this impression... too bad...
[08:31] <ishit> one big prob is that if k3b instals then limewire n skype dont work n vice versa
[08:31] <net28> l
[08:31] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: too bad for what/whom?
[08:31] <brownie17> MadpilotPPC, so when breezy gets official release on oct 13, are backports encouraged? and where can i get a recommended file for sources.list like the one from ubotu for hoary?
[08:31] <MadpilotPPC> nalioth, too bad for both PPC users and Ubuntu...
[08:32] <jamey3> join #gnome
[08:32] <jamey3> shit
[08:32] <jamey3> haha
[08:32] <bobulor> brownie17, fyi, i am arguably the biggest linux newb is existence. Im going through an online tutorial about basic linux (slowly), but I only know a few basic commands like how to sudo shutdown -h <time reference>
[08:32] <MadpilotPPC> brownie17, no idea - might want to join ubuntu-motu, I think they're in charge of stuff like that
[08:32] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: i guess so
[08:32] <nalioth> !tell bobulor about cli
[08:33] <Burgundavia> brownie17, backports have been added to the default sources.list, just commented out like universe
[08:33] <ishit> can an ubuntu live cd help me repair
[08:33] <trans_err> is there an up to date marilliat or something where I can install mplayer (with dvd support)? nerim doesn't seem to work anymore...
[08:33] <brownie17> bobulor, why not try doing things from the gnome menu for a while? to shut down you just go "system -> logoff -> shutdown" much easier for former winxp users :) i am noob too, but i am happy to answer any questions i can whenever i am on, which is fairl often
[08:33] <JDahl> brownie17, judging from /topic lately, I dont think Ubuntu devs encourage backports. Besides, you get a brand-new distro; why do you need backports?
[08:34] <brownie17> ishit, yes
[08:34] <cevizoglu> MadpilotPPC, I like ubuntu on PPC a lot, it runs very well
[08:34] <ishit> how do i do it
[08:34] <wrabbit01> Hey everybody.... Is there a tutorial/instruction site on how to install particular programs?
[08:34] <Burgundavia> JDahl, official backports are available
[08:34] <wrabbit01> I'd like to install a program but I can't work out how
[08:34] <Burgundavia> JDahl, they are not actively discouraged
[08:34] <trans_err> anyone?
[08:34] <brownie17> JDahl, it was really just a question. but you said dev's don't like backports? in general or just breezy?
[08:34] <meerkat> wrabbit01: google.com ;-)
[08:34] <Hobbsee> wrabbit01: what were you trying to insatll?
[08:34] <vik> My usb disk used to work brilliantly via the inbuilt hub in my usb keyboard. I've now regressed to an older keyboard, and plug the drive straight into the motherboard. It no longer works. Any ideas?
[08:34] <Burgundavia> trans_err, does the copy from multiverse not work?
[08:35] <MadpilotPPC> cevizoglu, this one is running very well, it's just the important little details I keep getting stuck on... :(
[08:35] <wrabbit01> meerkat: Trust me, I've been looking but nothing's making sense at the moment
[08:35] <trans_err> Burgundavia: it doesn't include dvd support
[08:35] <ishit> one big prob is that if k3b instals then limewire n skype dont work n vice vers. how do i correct this problem
[08:35] <wrabbit01> Hobbsee: World Wind
[08:35] <brownie17> vik, you change your user options? the light work? it show up in "computer"
[08:35] <nalioth> trans_err: just ask your bloody question. "anyone?"  The devices says its connected, but dmesg gives: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 8
[08:36] <vik> usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[08:36] <vik> usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[08:36] <jamey3> wow, thanks all.. that helped :P
[08:36] <ishit> u there
[08:36] <bobulor> crimsun, I went to some ubuntu site to do something to my sound system. I got three steps into it and one of the commands never gave me my command prompt back
[08:36] <nalioth> trans_err: dont put "anyone?" into hte channel, it does no good at all
[08:37] <brownie17> ishit, if you are talking to me, address me
[08:37] <ishit> how do i repair frm a live cd
[08:37] <ishit> k
[08:37] <ishit> sorry
[08:37] <brownie17> that's allright
[08:37] <trans_err> nalioth: repsonses like yours don't do anyone any good-- its the same elitist silliness that I despised about the debian community
[08:37] <ishit> brownie17: plz help me out
[08:37] <crimsun> bobulor, ok. I was hoping you'd wait before doing anything rash. Anyhow, what commands did you execute?
[08:37] <jamey3> ishit, what's the problem?
[08:37] <brownie17> livecd just lets you in, so you can correct setting changes you made that caused errors. i don't know why k3b won't co-exist, but it should. try a different buring in program. do you know how to use synaptic well?
[08:37] <nalioth> trans_err: well then we're both filling the channel needlessly
[08:37] <tristanmike> bobulor, try ctrl+c
[08:38] <ishit> one big prob is that if k3b instals then limewire n skype dont work n vice versa
[08:38] <brownie17> ishit, i am basically a noob as well, if you want proper help you would be better asking direct questions in general
[08:38] <nalioth> imho its better to repeat the actual question than issue an "anyone" or "please help me"
[08:38] <jamey3> have you tried graveman?
[08:38] <bobulor> crimsun, i did everything through the first step in part 3 of this site: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[08:38] <trans_err> nalioth: fun
[08:38] <ishit> one big prob is that if k3b instals then limewire n skype dont work n vice versa
[08:38] <ishit> thats the question dude
[08:38] <jamey3> nalioth, yeah but then people complain you're some foolish "repeater"
[08:38] <Hobbsee> wrabbit01: where are you trying to download it from?  If it's a binary, you'll have to compile it yourself
[08:38] <bobulor> tristanmike, Im not sure i want to make the command force quit though.
[08:39] <brownie17> ishit, and you need to give lots of information i.e instead of . k3b won't work.   you could say   i am running hoary with backports enabled and k3b gives me the following error "blah blah blah this is copied blah blah blah"
[08:39] <tristanmike> bobulor, fair enough
[08:39] <brownie17> ishit, do you know what backports are?
[08:39] <ishit> nope
[08:39] <brownie17> !tell ishit about repos
[08:39] <brownie17> !tell ishit about backports
[08:40] <ishit> ya wen i did an apt-get i got som backport error
[08:40] <dabaR> !tell brownie17 about msg the bot
[08:40] <brownie17> ishit, go to the links and read the info. repos or repositories are like servers for auto-packages
[08:40] <wrabbit01> Hobbsee: I have downloaded the .tar.bz2 file and it's sitting on my desktop.  I'm still googling for a basic installation tutorial for linux
[08:40] <ishit> ya so how do i update
[08:40] <jamey3> ishit, it sounds like that's the real problem
[08:40] <brownie17> dabaR, forgive me, i wanted to show ishit how to use the bot.
[08:40] <ice_1963> k3b will work if you install cdrdal
[08:40] <jamey3> once you've sorted out your repos, update and upgrade
[08:41] <dabaR> there is nothing to forgive, off course...
[08:41] <ishit> k thnx
[08:41] <crimsun> bobulor, ok. Erase /etc/asound.conf.
[08:41] <jamey3> gnome-panel keeps quitting unexpectedly. how can I fix it?
[08:41] <crimsun> bobulor, then change the default audio sink in System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector to customsink
[08:42] <Hobbsee> wrabbit01: is http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html of any use to you?
[08:42] <crimsun> bobulor, in the box below customsink, type: alsasink device=plughw:0,0
[08:42] <ishit> ok at least tel me how do i repair through a live cd
[08:42] <wrabbit01> Hobbsee: Perfect.  Cheers.  I was just checking out linux-tutorial.info aswell.
[08:43] <wrabbit01> Looks like I've got a bit of reading to do. :) Thanks for the help.
[08:43] <cevizoglu> ishit, repair what, your hard drive?
[08:43] <jamey3> gnome-panel keeps quitting unexpectedly. how can I fix it?
[08:43] <brownie17> does anyone know what the hell the deal with the bots is? why are they abusing us?
[08:43] <ishit> the wholw damn thing
[08:43] <Hobbsee> wrabbit01: :) it's amazing what useful stuff google comes up with when you know what to search for
[08:43] <bobulor> crimsun, just destory the /etc/asound.conf window without saving?
[08:43] <ishit> ITS SO UNSTABLE
[08:43] <cevizoglu> brownie17, what do you mean?  asking the bot for things it doesn't know?
[08:43] <crimsun> bobulor, yes
[08:43] <epiloc> i conquored my diskless fujitsu!
[08:43] <Hobbsee> wrabbit01: np
[08:43] <brownie17> ishit, mind your caps please
[08:44] <wrabbit01> Hobbsee: Agreed. :)
[08:44] <ishit> y wats the prob
[08:44] <jamey3> gnome-panel keeps quitting unexpectedly. how can I fix it?
[08:44] <bob2> instability is usually a hardware problem
[08:44] <brownie17> cevizoglu, no, the constant flow of people coming and going, the auto-bots
[08:44] <yahalom> anyone find that mozilla works better than firefox?
[08:45] <bobulor> crimsun, done. Test the pipeline?
[08:45] <jamey3> can *anyone* help me with my gnome-panel problem?!
[08:45] <cevizoglu> ishit, you wouldn't normally create a whole distro from livecd
[08:45] <vbgunz> anyone know how to map shortcut keys to actions such as signing documents with GPG? I am using Seahorse if it makes a difference?
[08:45] <brownie17> who can help me with a libgcc error? i get the following when i try to install avidemux: avidemux:  Depends: libgcc1 (>=1:4.0.0-7) but 1:4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 is to be installed
[08:45] <cevizoglu> ishit, unless you're really advanced with linux and running with really unsupported hw
[08:45] <cevizoglu> ishit, in which case, you would just go buy supported hw
[08:46] <aftertaf> boing!
[08:46] <cevizoglu> ishit, not like it costs anything nowadays
[08:46] <NaVi> I have a good question
[08:46] <brownie17> yahalom, not me. other way around
[08:46] <ice_1963> ok
[08:46] <NaVi> how do you compile?
[08:47] <bobulor> crimsun, i made all the changes as you have  instructed
[08:47] <brownie17> bob2, you remember last time i got an error like ^^^^?? how did you fix it for me?
[08:47] <jamey3> can *anyone* help me with my gnome-panel problem?!
[08:47] <epiloc> yeah, apt-get install kde
[08:47] <NaVi> is there a step by step instruction tocompiling
[08:47] <Hobbsee> lol epiloc :P
[08:47] <cevizoglu> bob2: does linux-laptops.net only work if you have flash?
[08:47] <brownie17> jamey3, can you go into some more detail about the problem? why is it crashing? how often? any error messages?
[08:47] <jamey3> epiloc, haha
[08:48] <bobulor> crimsun, is there a way to open a window/tab in which I can carry a conversation with specific people exclusively?
[08:48] <brownie17> bobulor, yes
[08:48] <brownie17> bobulor, you just right click their name and press open dialog
[08:48] <bobulor> ah, thx
[08:48] <NaVi> i guess that was a bad question
[08:48] <brownie17> bobulor, try it on me
[08:48] <Hobbsee> NaVi: have you tried http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html
[08:48] <epiloc> does anyone know if there is touchscreen capabilities for ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[08:48] <kingemer> so i do computer repair work and things for a lot of extended friends, and i was wondering if i recommend ubuntu as a windows replacement if i should also recommend this channel
[08:49] <jamey3> brownie17, gnome-panel crashes *as soon* as I login after gdm. The only error message is "gnome-panel quit unexpectedly". I can then restart it or close it. Both cause the same error. I have no idea why it's happening, that's why I'm here. :)
[08:49] <bob2> brownie17: don't install crap from outside ubuntu
[08:49] <NaVi> man u guys have a link for everthing
[08:49] <brownie17> epiloc, hm.. never heard of it not working, but i highly doubt it
[08:49] <Hobbsee> NaVi: yeah, i used it above too :P
[08:49] <brownie17> bob2, what do you mean? what did i install?
[08:49] <bob2> cevizoglu: http://linux-laptop.net/
[08:49] <skys> i read from spca2xx that i ahve to compile the kernel so that i can install this webcam driver. is there any way to do it? why do i have to compile?
[08:49] <bob2> brownie17: avidemux
[08:49] <Hobbsee> NaVi: google finds lots of useful stuff, if you know what to search for
[08:49] <bob2> brownie17: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood, along with "apt-cache policy avidemux"
[08:49] <ice_1963> navi jest ask bob2
[08:50] <gchilloux> bonjour
[08:50] <NaVi> so if I ask google "how to compile" it will tell u
[08:50] <tuskernini> Good morning, has anyone tried to run photoshop in wine?
[08:50] <alisher> what for?
[08:50] <NaVi> ch engine?
[08:50] <tuskernini> a freind
[08:50] <alisher> you have Gimp
[08:50] <bob2> NaVi: no, there's no such thing as "step by step instruction tocompiling"
[08:50] <tuskernini> i use gimp\
[08:50] <NaVi> oh
[08:50] <bobulor> brownie17, when i type something in the window for a dialogue between us, does it come to you the same way as if i type "brownie17, ...."?
[08:50] <tuskernini> Gimp RULES
[08:50] <epiloc> brownie17: yes, i cant imagine any major co's providing such a high involvement driver for linux
[08:50] <Hobbsee> Navi: well "install .tar.bz linux" is a good start
[08:50] <alisher> ok, for friend there is sth called gimpshop
[08:50] <Hobbsee> NaVi: if you're compiling from source
[08:50] <vbgunz> tuskernini: you're good with the gimp?
[08:51] <bob2> NaVi: what are yo utrying to compile?
[08:51] <tuskernini> i am trying to convert him... the friend.. is a litle slow
[08:51] <skys> is compiling a kernel very complicated?
[08:51] <epiloc> brownie17: we have enough trouble getting our wifi cards to work :)
[08:51] <jamey3> gnome-panel crashes *as soon* as I login after gdm. The only error message is "gnome-panel quit unexpectedly". I can then restart it or close it.  The only error message is "gnome-panel quit unexpectedly". I can then restart it or close it. Both cause the same error.
[08:52] <NaVi> is bob2 a bot or search engine
[08:52] <bob2> brownie17: then paste your whole sources.list
[08:52] <brownie17> bob2, so what can i do? buy a shotgun? or is there a slightly more delicate way to do it?/
[08:52] <bob2> NaVi: no
[08:52] <NaVi> oh
[08:52] <NaVi> man that was scary
[08:52] <ice_1963> lol
[08:53] <crimsun> bobulor, so you're using customsink now?
[08:53] <jamey3> can someone help me with me gnome-panel problem?
[08:53] <bob2> brownie17: looks like their packages are broken
[08:53] <brownie17> bob2, i did didn't i?
[08:53] <brownie17> bob2, ok, so it is not me?
[08:53] <bob2> brownie17: what does "apt-cache policy libgcc1" print out?
[08:53] <makkk> is freenx coming back to breezy?
[08:53] <yahalom> after the fix my firefox still crashes, anyone else having this prob?
[08:54] <jamey3> can someone help me with me gnome-panel problem?
[08:54] <bob2> yahalom: does it affect other users on the same machine? are you using binary-only plugins?
[08:54] <brownie17> bob2, well one more question, with kino, i tried to open a .mpg file and it said invalid file type
[08:54] <makkk> jamey3, what is it?
[08:54] <NaVi> wow
[08:54] <bobulor> crimsun, when I open a dialogue box for us, do my messages go to you as if I had typed "crimsun, ..."?
[08:54] <tuskernini> jamey3, i dont have a clue as to what your problem could be.. did you look on the support webpage?
[08:54] <jamey3> makkk, gnome-panel crashes *as soon* as I login after gdm. The only error message is "gnome-panel quit unexpectedly". I can then restart it or close it. Both cause the same error.
[08:54] <nalioth> jamey3: WHAT gnome-panel problem. please repeat the actual question at no shorter than 4 minute intervals
[08:55] <jamey3> makkk, gnome-panel crashes *as soon* as I login after gdm. The only error message is "gnome-panel quit unexpectedly". I can then restart it or close it. Both cause the same error.
[08:55] <yahalom> bob2: every use. binary only plugins. i think so. havent installed any custom ones.
[08:55] <jamey3> I must've repeated it at least every MINUTE
[08:55] <jamey3> jeez
[08:55] <brownie17> bob2 its in flood
[08:55] <vbgunz> YO! how does one person go about setting up shortcut keys to use commands such as "sign, encrypt, decrypt, etc" with GPG? I am looking for a universal method of applying shortcut keys (Ctrl+Alt+S = Sign, Ctrl+Alt+E = encrypt, etc)... please someone help?
[08:55] <bob2> yahalom: are you using java or flash or not?
[08:55] <NaVi> this is weird:# tar xvzf package.tar.gz (or tar xvjf package.tar.bz2)
[08:55] <NaVi> # cd package
[08:55] <NaVi> # ./configure
[08:55] <NaVi> # make
[08:55] <NaVi> # make install
[08:55] <bob2> vbgunz: not possible
[08:55] <windows_ate_my_b> after doing fresh install of ubuntu  ..then adding all the updates..last it was like 300++..it made my system run worse not better.anyone else with th problem??
[08:55] <NaVi> are these codes
[08:56] <makkk> jamey3, sorry, cant help you. not something i know about
[08:56] <bob2> NaVi: that may work on some source trees
[08:56] <NaVi> e
[08:56] <jamey3> makkk, oh okay
[08:56] <bob2> NaVi: in general, you don't compile anything, though
[08:56] <NaVi> I don't know programming
[08:56] <bob2> windows_ate_my_b: if you have encountered problems, please do file bugs
[08:56] <cevizoglu> NaVi: those are basic compile-from-source steps to build oss from source
[08:56] <bob2> NaVi: so why would you try to compile anything?
[08:56] <brownie17> bob2, did you see what the libgcc1 pasted as? whats the answer to my kino question?
[08:56] <bob2> brownie17: never used kino
[08:56] <crimsun> bobulor, no idea, I'm not used to this client.
[08:56] <bob2> brownie17: it looks very much like the hoary-extras is just broken
[08:56] <NaVi> oh
[08:57] <bobulor> crimsun, but in case the dialogue window tab isn't going through, yeah I made the changes as you instructed
[08:57] <bob2> brownie17: try asking on the forums
[08:57] <kingemer> NaVi: those are commands that you type in the shell to configure, compile, and install the source code
[08:57] <brownie17> bob2, you recommended it to me before didn't you? as a video editor!?!?!?!
[08:57] <NaVi> i think I get it
[08:57] <bob2> brownie17: yes...
[08:57] <NaVi> you mean the x11 box
[08:57] <bob2> NaVi: just about everything you could want is in ubuntu already, pre-compiled
[08:57] <kingemer> NaVi: what are you trying to compile?
[08:57] <bob2> NaVi: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto explains how to install things, normally
[08:57] <NaVi> I don't know just asking what it is
[08:57] <crimsun> bobulor, ok, and testing the pipeline gives you...?
[08:57] <vbgunz> bob2, there are n helper programs and work arounds for signing documents from a universal shortcut key?
[08:58] <NaVi> I want to learn
[08:58] <bob2> vbgunz: what are you trying to acheive?
[08:58] <brownie17> bob2, you cahnged your mind about it? why NEVER use it? is it dangerous?
[08:58] <cevizoglu> NaVi, what bob said.  you *don't* want to try building sw when there are packages available
[08:58] <bob2> vbgunz: encrypt things that are on the clipboard?
[08:58] <bobulor> crimsun, "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'Custom"
[08:58] <NaVi> I don't like windows so I will try this'
[08:58] <bob2> brownie17: because I've never had the urge to edit videos
[08:58] <vbgunz> bob2:  just trying to sign documents and clipboard too...
[08:58] <bob2> vbgunz: so, you need to be clearer about your goals
[08:59] <Hobbsee> NaVi: there's a fair bit to learn without compiling your own programs...
[08:59] <bob2> vbgunz: if you had some magic program run when you hit a certain key, what would it do?
[08:59] <vbgunz> everything you would probably do with PGP Desktop 9 in regards to shortcut keys... Was just use to pressing some keys and signing, decrypting, etc
[08:59] <crimsun> bobulor, _uncheck_ System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup
[08:59] <bob2> vbgunz: I have never used PGP, so I have no idea what it does
[08:59] <NaVi> ok then what should I know first
[08:59] <NaVi> please sir
[09:00] <wrabbit01> I'm trying to ./configure and it keeps telling me bash: ./configure: No such file or directory.  Any ideas?
[09:00] <wrabbit01> What am I doing wrong?
[09:00] <MadpilotPPC> !tell NaVi about synaptic
[09:00] <bob2> wrabbit01: that's pretty clear
[09:00] <wrabbit01> There is no config file
[09:00] <bob2> wrabbit01: the file doesn't exist
[09:00] <wrabbit01> So I can go straight to make?
[09:00] <Hobbsee> wrabbit: did you cd to the directory it's in?
[09:00] <nalioth> wrabbit01: is there a configure script present?
[09:00] <bob2> wrabbit01: no
[09:00] <vbgunz> bob2: i wasn't beating around the bush dude, I ask specifically for a way or method to assign universal shortcut keys to GPG's signing, encryption, etc... I can't find it *or* find info on applying shortcut keys for programs like it *for future reference*....
[09:00] <cafuego_> wrabbit01: You're attempting to compile without having the first clue what is involved. So don't. What are you trying to install?
[09:00] <cevizoglu> wrabbit01, read the INSTALL document
[09:00] <NaVi> synaptic (s-np'tk)
[09:00] <NaVi> adj.
[09:00] <NaVi> Of or relating to synapsis or a synapse: synaptic nerve endings; the synaptic phase in meiosis.
[09:00] <bob2> wrabbit01: you need to read the instructions that came with it
[09:01] <cevizoglu> wrabbit01, or the readme, or whatever text file is there
[09:01] <bob2> wrabbit01: what and why are you trying to compile this?
[09:01] <bobulor> crimsun, I unchecked the thing as you instructed, I still got the same error when I tried to test the pipeline
[09:01] <cafuego_> ... and another new X.
[09:01] <wrabbit01> the only documents that come with world wind are licence and version
[09:01] <bob2> wrabbit01: then talk to the authors
[09:01] <crimsun> bobulor, in a Terminal, lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[09:02] <cevizoglu> wrabbit01, is there source code there?
[09:02] <alisher> I thought you dont need to compile world wind, just execute
[09:02] <vbgunz> bob2: PGP isn't just about encrypting stuff... it's used to prove communication clear signed by means it *really* came from you... I use it constantly to slear sign important documents
[09:02] <alisher> there is executable in the tarball
[09:02] <cafuego_> vbgunz: gpg, you mean?
[09:02] <kingemer> NaVi: for doing most things, you shouldnt need to use the shell
[09:02] <NaVi> ok
[09:02] <kingemer> NaVi: if you want to learn, you could try http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal
[09:02] <bob2> vbgunz: to assign random shortcut keys to run programs, use gconf-editor to look at apps/metacity/global_keybindings to define run_command_N, then apps/metacity/keybinding_commands to define what they run
[09:03] <yahalom> anyone know of a text based pdf viewer for console?
[09:03] <vbgunz> yeah, I know the command line bits and installed Seahorse but I did so to try and get at "shortcut keys"
[09:03] <vbgunz> Ctrl+Alt+S = Sign, etc...
[09:03] <alisher> wrabbit01: you dont need to compile worldwind, just click the executable
[09:03] <NaVi> thing is this guys I never ran a pc before ever
[09:03] <Wipe-Out> hey guys
[09:03] <bob2> vbgunz: dude, stop and think, this isn't magic.  seahorse is not magically going to rebind ctrl-alt-s for every single X appliction.
[09:03] <NaVi> Im a mac diehard
[09:03] <NaVi> and who changed my name\
[09:03] <Wipe-Out> how do i install gcc-3.4 it's not in synaptic
[09:03] <NaVi> it was faheton
[09:04] <NaVi> ugh\
[09:04] <brownie17> bob2, when i use "cinepaint" i also get the same type of error.
[09:04] <bob2> Wipe-Out: what are yo utrying to do with it?
[09:04] <bob2> brownie17: ok
[09:04] <ice_1963> well navi it's about time
[09:04] <vbgunz> bob2, dude chill, smoke and mirrors, I appreciate it very much... being still new but trying to apply shortcut keys to something like GPG commands is a bit advanced for me...
[09:04] <brownie17> bob2, well.. .do you know what's wrong?
[09:04] <bob2> brownie17: no
[09:04] <cevizoglu> NaVi: your mac is a pc too, a personal computer..
[09:04] <Wipe-Out> bob2: need it to compile ndiswrapper 1.3
[09:04] <kemik> Wipe-Out:  it is in the repositories
[09:04] <NaVi> so tubuntu is the bestof linux?
[09:04] <bob2> Wipe-Out: the version of ndiswrapper in ubuntu really doesn't work?
[09:04] <bob2> NaVi: no
[09:04] <bob2> NaVi: it's a very nice one for new users, though
[09:05] <Wipe-Out> bob2: nope
[09:05] <kemik> NaVi:  well, that depends on who you ask ;)
[09:05] <bobulor> crimsun, done. nothing happened but Im told that's usually a good thing
[09:05] <NaVi> HEHE'
[09:05] <ice_1963> lol
[09:05] <bob2> Wipe-Out: /msg ubotu repositories
[09:05] <brownie17> NaVi, what it tubuntu?
[09:05] <Wipe-Out> kemik: please be more clear, sorry linux n00b
[09:05] <crimsun> bobulor, paste me what you have in the customsink box
[09:05] <bob2> Wipe-Out: it's in the universe repository
[09:05] <wrabbit01> alisher: That doesn't seem to work.
[09:05] <NaVi> i meant Ubuntu]
[09:05] <bobulor> crimsun: alsasink device=plughw:0.0
[09:05] <NaVi> ugh'
[09:05] <kemik> !tell Wipe-Out about universe
[09:05] <wrabbit01> When un tarred, it creates a folder called linux and when I cd into linux this is what there is... "Config  Data  Fonts  LICENSE.txt  logo.gif  VERSION.txt  ww2d  ww2d.ico"
[09:05] <alisher> wrabbit01: it worked for me
[09:05] <vbgunz> bob2, thanks your answer I am hoping not only solves the gpg universal shortcut key issue but futurew issues as well... I really enjoy shortcutting my way around the keyboard... thanks!
[09:06] <kemik> !tell Wipe-Out about repositories
[09:06] <crimsun> bobulor, you misread me: alsasink device=plughw:0,0
[09:06] <brownie17> NaVi, oh :) sorry
[09:06] <NaVi> no im a bad typer
[09:06] <alisher> ww2d is the executable
[09:06] <crimsun> bobulor, the use of a period instead of a comma will break things
[09:06] <wrabbit01> alisher: I doublt click on that and nothing happens.
[09:06] <wrabbit01> double*
[09:07] <alisher> maybe you need ./ww2d
[09:07] <bobulor> crimsun, i changed to a comma, the test still failed
[09:07] <vbgunz> kemik: hello bro,
[09:07] <ice_1963> ice :0) at Navi
[09:07] <kemik> gmorning vbgunz
[09:07] <bobulor> crimsun, do the lsof command again?
[09:07] <Wipe-Out> thx guys
[09:07] <alisher> or sh ./ww2d
[09:07] <crimsun> bobulor, lspci -v|grep -i audio
[09:07] <alisher> I forgot, but it was what I did
[09:07] <wrabbit01> alisher: Nope... that just gives me "./ww2d: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[09:07] <wrabbit01> thanks anyway.. I'll keep trying stuff
[09:08] <alisher> so you need libstdc++ to be installed
[09:08] <bob2> wrabbit01: install libstdc++5
[09:08] <vbgunz> man, learned my tidbit for the day and made better steps toward migration... I hope the last bit bob2 has helped with truly does help. I'll find out in the morning...
[09:08] <bobulor> crimsun, I got "0000:00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0059 (rev a2)
[09:08] <bobulor> "
[09:08] <wrabbit01> Ah, ok.. I'll try to work out how to do that.  Sorry.... first time installing anything.
[09:08] <wrabbit01> Don't mean to be such a newbie.
[09:08] <alisher> wrabbit01: wrabbit and some other dependencies, mentionned at ww2d site, read them
[09:08] <kemik> wrabbit01:  you install it with synaptic
[09:08] <vbgunz> kemik: be cool!, thanks bob2, relax, get a massage or something... if not pizza and beer :P
[09:08] <NaVi> please visit my homepage and take a look at my first pc build and first pc.http://homepage.mac.com/jymac/The_FhaeTon_Project/PhotoAlbum31.html
[09:09] <kemik> vbgunz:  i will;) gtg now tho
[09:09] <vbgunz> thanks fellas!
[09:09] <kemik> peace
[09:09] <crimsun> bobulor, paste the output from cat /proc/asound/devices onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:09] <bob2> wrabbit01: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[09:09] <Wipe-Out> bye kemik
[09:09] <alisher> wrabbit01: WW2D depends on wxWidgets 2.6+ and libCURL so you'll need them to compile from sources and to run dinamically-linked binaries
[09:10] <bob2> alisher: eh? libcurl is in Ubuntu
[09:10] <alisher> I didnt have wxwidgets2.6+, just installed libCURL, but it worked anyway
[09:10] <NaVi> I never new building a comp was so fun
[09:10] <bob2> alisher: as are the wxwdigets libs
[09:11] <alisher> but they werent 2.6 in Hoary
[09:11] <NaVi> but the OS part is not fun
[09:11] <bobulor> crimsun, didn't i destroy the asound file earlier?
[09:11] <Mephist0> hello guys.. i have booted with live cd to save my files.. since my hoary dist is not possible to boot anymore.. how do i mount my harddisk?
[09:11] <crimsun> bobulor, you said you did
[09:11] <NaVi> I think I had a problem with the Hitachi UATA drives so I purchased SATA 3gb drives
[09:11] <NaVi> ]
[09:12] <ice_1963> Ghost
[09:13] <ice_1963> Boo
[09:13] <Wipe-Out> brb
[09:13] <NaVi> man I'm gonna D/L all this info and read it on my psp
[09:14] <ccooke> *yawn* Wow. Still 20 minutes before I need to leave for work.
[09:14] <ccooke> Mephist0: anyone answered you yet?
[09:16] <vik> Any ideas why my usb drive stops being recognised when I plug it straight into the computer, rather than through a keyboard/hub (as worked previously)?
[09:16] <ccooke> vik: does it have a seperate power supply?
[09:16] <vik> the device has its own power
[09:16] <ccooke> and are we talking a hard disk here?
[09:16] <ccooke> ah
[09:17] <vik> yep - hard disk
[09:17] <ccooke> hmm
[09:17] <ccooke> if you do a 'tail -0f /var/log/kern.log' *before* inserting it, does anything appear when you do?
[09:18] <vik> haven't tried that, but dmesg gives usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
[09:18] <vik> usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[09:18] <vik>  after inserting
[09:18] <cevizoglu> Mephist0, you need to know which device your volume is and maybe what type of format it is
[09:18] <cevizoglu> Mephist0, then you would do, for example, sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda4 /mnt/my_chosen_vol_name
[09:18] <ccooke> vik: hmm. And it still works in the hub?
[09:18] <vik> yep
[09:18] <bobulor> crimsun, i pasted it with a craptified screenshot because the initial version wasn't in a format the website could find
[09:19] <ccooke> vik: okay. Tried googling for that error?
[09:19] <ccooke> it's not one I've seen myself
[09:19] <cevizoglu> Mephist0, with ext3 being your actual volume type and hda4 being your actual device for your hard disk partition
[09:19] <vik> no - will try it. kern.log gives same error as dmesg
[09:19] <ccooke> yes. kern.log just gets the output of dmesg. It's more convenient to use tail to get it, that's all
[09:21] <crimsun> bobulor, ok, change plughw:0,0 to just hw:0,0
[09:21] <bobulor> crimsun, done. Test it?
[09:21] <crimsun> yep
[09:21] <indypende> someone know if the script easy ubuntu work also for the 64bit version?
[09:21] <bobulor> crimsun, same error
[09:23] <Mephist0> ccooke, yeah now.. :) .. i was reading the wiki dokumentation too..
[09:23] <bobulor> crimsun, the test didn't work
[09:23] <Mephist0> cevizoglu, what is the usual filesystem.. is that ext3? .. well my hd is hda.. i made a dmseg
[09:23] <vik> ccooke: just got it to work by issuing 'echo N > /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/old_scheme_first'
[09:24] <Mephist0> mount /dev/hda /hda
[09:24] <cevizoglu> Mephist0, you could have formatted your drive as ext2, ext3, reiserfs, etc.
[09:24] <vik> might be something related to old motherboard/usb controller and new device...
[09:24] <Mephist0> okis..
[09:24] <ccooke> vik: Interesting. can you give me the URL you found that? I'd like to know more
[09:24] <Mephist0> cevizoglu, okis..
[09:24] <vik> ccooke: http://www.mepis.org/node/5860
[09:24] <ccooke> vik: sounds sensible.
[09:24] <crimsun> bobulor, ok, change it to ossink
[09:24] <crimsun> bobulor, osssink, rather
[09:24] <ccooke> thanks
[09:25] <bobulor> crimsun, I changed the Output to OSS-Open Sound System. It changed the Pipeline on its own
[09:25] <bobulor> crimsun, Pipeline is all grayed out now. Test it?
[09:25] <vik> what is the Ubuntu Way to change options for kernel modules (i.e. things that once upon a time would have gone in /etc/modules.conf)?
[09:26] <Mephist0> cevizoglu, what is the most usal filesystem then? that ubuntu uses to format drives? is that ext3?
[09:26] <ccooke> vik: look under /etc/modutils
[09:27] <ccooke> same syntax, but it's broken into files that packages can simply drop in
[09:27] <Kenshin12345> hi all
[09:27] <Kenshin12345> need help :'-(
[09:27] <transgress> whatcha need?
[09:27] <nalioth> Kenshin12345: ask
[09:27] <vik> ccooke - this is a bit wierd - the correction on the bottom of said website says it should be 'echo Y' not 'echo N', but 'echo N' worked for me anyway.
[09:27] <crimsun> bobulor, yes
[09:27] <ccooke> vik: heh
[09:27] <cevizoglu> Mephist0, I don't know the default, it's either ext3 or reiserfs
[09:28] <Kenshin12345> Well I d/led gaim 1.5.0 and am trying to update my gaim-1.4.0 to it
[09:28] <ccooke> Default is ext3
[09:28] <cevizoglu> Mephist0, are you getting errors?
[09:28] <Mephist0> cevizoglu, then it must be ext3... i recognize that..
[09:28] <bobulor> crimsun, same error. BTW, should Default Source have input with OSS too?
[09:28] <vik> ccooke - just add a file with the options in modutils?
[09:28] <Mephist0> cevizoglu, root@c-a9c271d5:/home/ubuntu # mount -t ext3 /dev/hda /hda
[09:28] <Mephist0> mount: /dev/hda already mounted or /hda busy
[09:28] <ccooke> cevizoglu: mount will automatically determine it anyway, in almost all cases.
[09:28] <transgress> Kenshin12345: did you download a .deb of it?
[09:28] <cevizoglu> ccooke, I know
[09:29] <cevizoglu> ccooke, unless it's hfsplus, ntfs, hfs, etc.
[09:29] <Kenshin12345> umm....ubuntu5.04.tar.gz
[09:29] <ccooke> vik: yes. I'd suggest calling it something like "usbcore.usersettings" so you don't conflict with any possible future usbcore file from a package
[09:29] <loststryk> morning all; has anyone had any experiance of installing pftpfxp-mew?
[09:29] <crimsun> bobulor, source doesn't matter
[09:29] <transgress> Kenshin12345: if you wait or go ahead and upgrade it's in breezy... which is due out in like a week or some shit.. and stable as can be.
[09:29] <crimsun> bobulor, ok. You'll need to compile newer ALSA drivers.
[09:29] <transgress> okay not as can be... but pretty close
[09:29] <crimsun> !tell bobulor about alsa-source
[09:29] <Kenshin12345> k
[09:30] <Wipe-Out> and i'm back...
[09:30] <Kenshin12345> k
[09:30] <Mephist0> cevizoglu, i forgot the digit 1... hda1 ......
[09:30] <vik> ccooke - then update-modules?
[09:30] <ccooke> transgress: it's stable enough for me to run it on my laptop which I use for work, but changing too much for me to install it on everything else
[09:30] <Wipe-Out> gcc-3.4 is not in the reposetories
[09:30] <bobulor> crimsun, holy cow
[09:30] <crimsun> Wipe-Out, yes it is
[09:30] <Kenshin12345> also...How do I get rid of having to type 'sudo' all the time and is it a good idea to get rid of it?
[09:30] <Wipe-Out> no it isn't
[09:31] <nalioth> Kenshin12345: it is not a good idea
[09:31] <siimo> Wipe-Out, what repo you looking
[09:31] <ccooke> vik: /etc/init.d/module-init-tools restart
[09:31] <transgress> ccooke: i've changed to it on my lappy and desktop.
[09:31] <Wipe-Out> all of them
[09:31] <Kenshin12345> kk
[09:31] <bobulor> crimsun, what does all that mean? Is that whole thing in step 2 a single command?
[09:31] <Kenshin12345> k, next one
[09:31] <ccooke> transgress: other people use my other computers, so...
[09:31] <transgress> ccooke: and i use both for work.  only problem i had was recently fixed due to my bug report
[09:31] <siimo> Wipe-Out, well i have it so you must not have /all/ of them
[09:31] <crimsun> Wipe-Out, so http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=gcc-3.4 is lying?
[09:31] <Wipe-Out> i selected all reloaded and no gcc-3.4
[09:31] <Pyt3r> how config apt with repositor of sarge ???????
[09:31] <Kenshin12345> ....I have a couple of sata drives that I can't figure out how to access
[09:31] <ccooke> transgress: what was that?
[09:31] <Mephist0> cevizoglu, now it works fine.. thx man!
[09:31] <bobulor> crimsun, everything after "... terminal:" that is
[09:32] <Kenshin12345> they are both broken up into 2 partitions
[09:32] <vik> ccooke - more info on the issue at: http://www.spinics.net/lists/usb/msg02644.html
[09:32] <siimo> Pyt3r, sarge???
[09:32] <transgress> ccooke: fixed fonts bug... they needed to add a dep to one of the packages.
[09:32] <cevizoglu> Mephist0, yw
[09:32] <Pyt3r> siimo, yes!
[09:32] <Wipe-Out> crimsum: don;t know i'll have a look at it
[09:32] <crimsun> bobulor, yes
[09:32] <ice_1963> sudo passwd root
[09:32] <siimo> sarge is not ubuntu its incompatible
[09:32] <transgress> ccooke: it only seems to happen if you have both kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop
[09:32] <Pyt3r> siimo, because ubuntu repositor's , have many packages
[09:33] <Kenshin12345> ??
[09:33] <bobulor> crimsun, does the && tell the machine that it has different commands? And can I just copy and paste directly into terminal?
[09:33] <crimsun> bobulor, copy and paste it.
[09:33] <Kenshin12345> How do I mount my drives....I kno it's a major n00bish question but u gotta start sumwhere
[09:33] <Kenshin12345> ...
[09:33] <siimo> Kenshin12345, what drives
[09:34] <Pyt3r> siimo, you can help me?
[09:34] <ccooke> vik: ah... *interesting*
[09:34] <siimo> Pyt3r, with what? you cannot use sarge repo's with ubuntu
[09:34] <bobulor> crimsun, it won't let me copy and paste, I'll let you know how it works out one im done typing it in.
[09:34] <NSK> hi
[09:34] <Wipe-Out> okay screw the reposotries
[09:34] <Kenshin12345> 2 sata drives
[09:34] <ccooke> hmm. Better go to work.
[09:34] <Wipe-Out> how do i install it manualy
[09:35] <ice_1963> i can i run sid lol
[09:35] <Pyt3r> siimo, but ubuntu repositer's have many packages
[09:35] <cevizoglu> Wipe-Out, dpkg
[09:35] <Kenshin12345> how do I private msg/chat??
[09:35] <siimo> Wipe-Out, post your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin.ca
[09:35] <siimo> Pyt3r, whats wrong with having many packages? you dont download the ones you dont need
[09:35] <NSK> how are ubuntu releases numbered?
[09:35] <loststryk> hi guys; i know you guys probably don't support 3rd party spftware; but am trying to install pftpfxp-mew on 5.04; however it has issues with openssl; does anybody have any experiance with this problm ?
[09:35] <grndslm> NSK: by date
[09:35] <Wipe-Out> siimo: please lamemans terms please i'm n00b
[09:35] <Seveas> NSK, by the month they are released
[09:35] <Travis|H> hmm i'm connecting to a nsv (nullsoft video stream) which is basically a VP6 + mp3 broadcast over a shoutcast server .......... it plays using mplayer but its very badly out of sync ... any ideas?
[09:35] <siimo> NSK, year.month 5.04 is 2005 april
[09:36] <NSK> Kenshin12345: /query nickname
[09:36] <NSK> oh, I see!
[09:36] <NSK> thanks
[09:36] <Pyt3r> siimo, how add image in my boot loader ?
[09:36] <siimo> Wipe-Out, maybe because of language differences you arent saying exactly what you want
[09:36] <eliphas_> when do they plan to fill in the backports for breezy ?
[09:36] <siimo> opps sorry
[09:37] <Jack_B> Travis|H, how did you set mplayer to stream from shoutcast servers?
[09:37] <alisher> backports for Breezy?
[09:37] <NSK> is 5.10 preview good enough for production desktop use or should I prefer 5.04 ?
[09:37] <siimo> Wipe-Out, open /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor copy the stuff and post it on that website and give me a link to it
[09:37] <alisher> backporting from what?
[09:37] <nalioth> eliphas_: when they finish making breezy
[09:37] <siimo> NSK, 5.10 is not out
[09:37] <amichai> when i try to run root apps i get this: Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager as user root: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[09:37] <amichai> any ideas?
[09:37] <Wipe-Out> siimo: well i need to install gcc-3.4 to compile ndiswrapper 1.3
[09:37] <siimo> Pyt3r, why would you want to add one manually its automatic
[09:37] <MadpilotPPC> !tell amichai about root
[09:37] <eliphas_> thanks all :)I will try to be a bit more patient then :)
[09:38] <Pyt3r> siimo, who?
[09:38] <siimo> Wipe-Out, i want to see what sources you have currently so please post that files contents somwhere i can read it
[09:38] <Wipe-Out> siimo: this i need because without it i can;t connect to the net with my screwy aptop
[09:38] <NSK> I need a stable desktop for production use. would you warn against the use of 5.10-preview ?
[09:38] <Travis|H> Jack_B: just used "mplayer http://www.streamurl.com/stream01.nsv"
[09:38] <Wipe-Out> siimo: please wait then i need to reboot into linux first
[09:38] <siimo> NSK, well it wont be supported if you use a development release
[09:38] <Jack_B> Travis|H, k
[09:39] <amichai> anyone?
[09:39] <Travis|H> i just don't know what the deal is with my audio .. it's not synced to the video at all
[09:39] <NSK> won't I be able to update to 5.10-final from 5.10-preview ?
[09:39] <cevizoglu> Travis|H, it's a known issue with mplayer
[09:39] <siimo> NSK, yeah you will be
[09:40] <siimo> NSK, it should be stable enough right now but if you run into trouble people will say why didnt you use stable version
[09:40] <NSK> ok I see thanks
[09:40] <siimo> or wait a few weeks and get the final version
[09:42] <bobulor> crimsun, it's cranking away at stuff. It said that more disk space would be used after unpacking and asked if i wanted to continue, I said yes
[09:43] <bobulor> crimsun, do i let it build Alsa drivers with ISA PnP support?
[09:43] <crimsun> bobulor, the bot told you
[09:44] <bobulor> crimsun, no, it just mentioned something about the universal repository and gave the bigass command. It gave no further instructions
[09:44] <bobulor> crimsun, if it had i wuldn;t have asked you about it
[09:44] <bobulor> crimsun, btw what is the universal repository?
[09:44] <crimsun> !repos
[09:44] <Travis|H> hmm i think i fixed the sync issue buy just channging the latency to 600ms .. yay
[09:44] <ubotu> from memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:45] <crimsun> bobulor, it's getting late, and I need to sleep.
[09:45] <bobulor> crimsun, what does the "from memory" thing mean?
[09:45] <bobulor> crimsun, ok
[09:46] <B_166-ER-X> looks like a dont want to answer :P
[09:49] <Oxus> i upgraded to breezy some weeks ago. I use aptitude to receive the last upgrades and now, i can't finish the upgrade. The program downloads all the files, do the order preconfiguring packages...but when it's reading the database, the system blocks. Do you know how to solve it?
[09:50] <cafuego_> !bot
[09:50] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to cafuego_? I think not. Bot, knot, chicken... rhyming sucks.
[09:50] <cevizoglu> what does "HP-ized Breezy" mean?
[09:50] <B_166-ER-X> breezy = unstable version..
[09:50] <loststryk> that it's fruity ?
[09:50] <Seveas> cevizoglu, special version for HP machines
[09:53] <calvin> can anyone tell me how to install linux programs in ubuntu
[09:53] <calvin> >
[09:54] <Seveas> calvin, applications -> add applications
[09:54] <Seveas> or system -> administration -> synaptic
[09:54] <AvatarofVirgo> I have ubuntu installed as a dual boot next to suse, I'm on suse right now because ubuntu wont auto detect my external seriel modem.  Any idea why?
[09:55] <Travis|H> is there a way to run a progam without having to launch a terminal .. i don't see a "Run" option on the menus
[09:56] <alisher> Alt+F2
[09:56] <B_166-ER-X> well i have one in applications
[09:56] <nalioth> cafuego_: why is ubotu in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[09:56] <Travis|H> thanks alisher
[09:56] <Seveas> nalioth, I put him there
[09:56] <Seveas> comes in handy at times
[09:56] <alisher> Hoary has "Run" in the menu, Breezy not
[09:57] <B_166-ER-X> had breezy a few days before it crashed ; i saw something similar in there thought
[09:57] <bobulor> arrgh
[09:57] <alisher> yes it was:)
[09:57] <alisher> but anyway, AltF2 is handier than going to the menu
[09:58] <calvin> i STILL CAN'T FIGURE OUT FROM EITHER OF THOSE HOW TO SELECT MY PROGRAM TO INSTALL
[09:58] <calvin> sorry, caps
[09:58] <Seveas> calvin, caps won't help...
[09:58] <B_166-ER-X> cruise control for annoying.
[09:58] <Seveas> calvin, if you use synaptic: use the search, click on a package and mark it for installation
[09:58] <Seveas> then hit apply
[09:58] <calvin> sorry, I can't type and look at the screen yet
[09:59] <bobulor> seveas, I was downloading some repositories. After each download, the repository list would increase with a new item named after the apt. Is that normal?
[10:00] <Seveas> bobulor, that line makes little sense to me
[10:00] <Seveas> 'downloading repositories'?
[10:00] <jamey3> I have figured that my gnome-panel problem is user-specific; it only happens to my account. Which config files can I delete/modify so that gnome-panel restores to the default config? I've tried removing the .gnome* and .gconf directories so far, to no help.
[10:00] <Seveas> .gconfd
[10:00] <cevizoglu> bobulor, give an example of the new item named after the apt?
[10:00] <alisher> he meant added repositories though
[10:00] <jamey3> Seveas, ah thanks :)
[10:01] <alisher> sure the list would get one item more
[10:01] <bobulor> seveas, checking them, clicking custom, adding deb http://www.grawert.net/ubuntu/ warty universe, and clicking ok to let it do its thing
[10:01] <Seveas> bobulor, well, what that does is adding things to the sources.list
[10:01] <Seveas> so yeah, completely normal :)
[10:02] <munkeman> hello all im a new ubuntu user just wanted to drop in and say i switched from fedora
[10:03] <Seveas> munkeman, welcome to the light side :)
[10:03] <munkeman> and luv ubuntu
[10:03] <Jack_B> welcome dude
[10:03] <bobulor> seveas, crimsun was trying to help me update my alsa drivers. I have no idea whats going on. but anyway he bailed on me so he could sleep when I had a list on my terminal screen that asked which alsa drivers to build. Only one thing had an asterisk next to it and i tried to selesct others by pressing enter. I guess I messed up. It immediately cranked away at a bunch of stuff
[10:03] <SlicerDicer-> Seveas, its the darkside with lightside powers like Dr. Evil but without the evil laugh :)
[10:03] <jamey3> Seveas, I've now tried removing .gconf, .gconfd (it didn't exist), .gnome2, .gnome2_private. I then ctrl+alt+backspace, re-login and the problem persists.
[10:04] <bobulor> seveas, it finished but now my command prompt reads: robert@bobulor:/usr/src/mudoles/alsa-drivers$
[10:04] <Seveas> jamey3, logout, login in the console, clean out /tmp
[10:04] <aftertaf> re
[10:04] <jamey3> Seveas, thanks brb then
[10:04] <SlicerDicer-> btw is there any update on perhaps when nvidia drivers may be working with AMD64 and breezy? I havent been able to find any information on it
[10:04] <jamey3> btw how do you initiate a gnome logout from the terminal?
[10:05] <Seveas> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:05] <deepwoodz> i have a problem... my screen resolution is very small... and it wont allow me to change it to fullsize... i have a intergrated intel processor
[10:05] <jamey3> ah of course
[10:05] <jamey3> thanks
[10:05] <Seveas> !resolution
[10:05] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:05] <deepwoodz> cand anyone help me?
[10:05] <bobulor> dammit
[10:05] <deepwoodz> can*
[10:05] <aftertaf> deepwoodz:  sing and someone will hear :)
[10:05] <Seveas> rofl
[10:06] <bobulor> now none of my sound works
[10:09] <bobulor> i guess i'll see you all later, then.
[10:09] <aftertaf> :/
[10:09] <cevizoglu> bobulor, did you type in the script or copy and paste it?
[10:09] <bobulor> cevizolglu, i have no earthly idea
[10:09] <Seveas> bobulor, crimsun is the resident alsa guru, my alsa knowledge is close to 0
[10:09] <Seveas> better wait for him to return
[10:09] <Chafff> Salut tout le monde
[10:09] <Skid> hola
[10:09] <Skid> ;P
[10:09] <Chafff> voil l je fait mes premiers pas sous linux
[10:09] <cevizoglu> bobulor: I thought you said earlier you were typing it in
[10:09] <aftertaf> Chafff:  salut, bravo, mais en anglais pour pas facher les gens ;)...... et encore fliciations
[10:09] <Chafff> of course
[10:09] <bobulor> seveas, i know, and he bailed on me to go sleep in the middle doing something. so with him gone for the night there's nothing i can do
[10:09] <xuniluser> How do i cancel/remove print jobs?
[10:09] <Chafff> thank you aftertaf
[10:09] <aftertaf> Chafff:  you using the live cd?
[10:09] <aftertaf> 2rien ;)
[10:09] <bob2> Seveas: what was with the ban on browie17?
[10:09] <bobulor> cevizoglu, all i've typed is what i was told by various websites or ubotu
[10:09] <Chafff> I will speack in english to make all the people happy
[10:09] <Wipe-Out> and i'm back again
[10:09] <cevizoglu> bobulor, you could try pasting the script ubotu gave you into your terminal and running it
[10:10] <bobulor> cevizoglu, at this point though, my level of frustration makes it tempting to solve the problem with the only thing that solves all problems: fire.
[10:10] <Chafff> yes I use the live cd
[10:10] <cevizoglu> bobulor, don't type it in, if you get a single character wrong you could mess the whole thing up
[10:10] <aftertaf> Chafff:  ubuntu is good :)
[10:10] <Chafff> yes
[10:10] <Seveas> bob2, bot abuse
[10:10] <Cryptid> How do i download .deb files i just download Java and W32codecs but i am unable to figure out how to install them do i use dpkg or apt-get to install them
[10:11] <Wipe-Out> lol
[10:11] <Chafff> but I have some problem to have the double screen
[10:11] <Seveas> he apologized already
[10:11] <alisher> sudo dpkg -i ...deb
[10:11] <aftertaf> Cryptid:  try getting them auto with apt-get or synaptic...
[10:11] <Chafff> cause I have two screen
[10:11] <bobulor> well anyway. Im out of here. I'll come back and beg crimsun for more help tomorrow i guess
[10:11] <aftertaf> instead of manual d/ling
[10:11] <Cryptid> aftertaf, its not in synaptic
[10:11] <aftertaf> Chafff:  alors la, i cant help ;)
[10:12] <aftertaf> Cryptid:  my 2 pence worth...
[10:12] <Chafff> evil
[10:12] <Wipe-Out> siimo, are you still there?
[10:12] <aftertaf> Chafff:  there is also #ubuntu-fr in case ;)
[10:13] <Wipe-Out> guys i've got the feeling my sourcelist is screwy
[10:13] <Wipe-Out> http://pastebin.ca/24094
[10:13] <Wipe-Out> is it okay?
[10:13] <jamey3> Seveas, I've removed all of those hidden config directories in my ~, then wiped out everything in /tmp, rebooted and gnome-panel still crashes. Is there anyway to delete my user account, then recreate it with a "default" gnome config?
[10:13] <Chafff> cann we make a private conversation aftertaf to speack about ubuntu and linux ?
[10:14] <Seveas> jamey3, sure, make sure you have a new account first
[10:14] <linner> aftertaf:  hello :)
[10:14] <aftertaf> Chafff:  a bit later, yes... pas de pb...
[10:14] <linner> nalioth:  hello :)
[10:14] <Seveas> then do: sudo adduser newaccount_username admin
[10:14] <lorenzod> jamey3, gnome-panel is a bit ustable atm.
[10:14] <Seveas> then login as that user
[10:14] <Seveas> and do:
[10:14] <jamey3> lorenzod, why's that?
[10:14] <Seveas> sudo userdel old_username
[10:14] <lorenzod> But it shouldn't constanty crash.
[10:14] <Seveas> sudo rm -r /home/old_username
[10:15] <lorenzod> jamey3, bugs, I guess..
[10:15] <Seveas> sudo adduser old_username
[10:15] <Seveas> sudo adduser old_username admin
[10:15] <jamey3> Seveas, okay... my current username is "james" so I'll just create "jamey" and mv my old home dir *files* over
[10:15] <lorenzod> If I try to add an applet to a panel, it works,
[10:15] <linner> cafuego:  remember my time/date issue.... it's still happening?
[10:15] <jamey3> Seveas, so just make sure I add it to the admin group?
[10:15] <Seveas> jamey3, sounds like a plan
[10:15] <lorenzod> Adding a second one consistantly crashes gnome-panel..
[10:15] <Seveas> yes, the admin group are the people who can use sudo
[10:15] <jamey3> "second one"?
[10:15] <jamey3> Seveas, cool thanks
[10:16] <lorenzod> A second applet, that is.
[10:16] <Chafff> www.agence-bitoku.com
[10:16] <jamey3> the weird thing is I haven't added/modified anything from the default GNOME panel and applet config...
[10:16] <jamey3> anyway brb gonna try migrating user accounts
[10:16] <lorenzod> Btw, jamey3, which version of gnome-panel are you using?
[10:17] <jamey3> lorenzod, don't know... whichever is latest in Ubuntu hoary
[10:17] <lorenzod> OK.
[10:17] <vikash> hi anybody help
[10:17] <linner> wb aftertaf_
[10:17] <lorenzod> vikash, help can only be given once the problem is known..
[10:18] <vikash> other computers on network using windows can't access my system
[10:18] <vikash> i am using ubuntu 5.10
[10:18] <jamey3> how can I get into the Ubuntu recovery mode on boot up btw?
[10:18] <vikash> hi lorenzod
[10:18] <cevizoglu> vikash: and you've set up samba?
[10:18] <vikash> i wrote the prob
[10:18] <vikash> i installed from synaptic
[10:19] <vikash> how can i configure it
[10:19] <vikash> samba and it's packages
[10:19] <cevizoglu> !tell vikash about samba
[10:19] <linner> aftertaf_:  still having proxy issues?
[10:19] <vikash> what
[10:19] <cevizoglu> vikash: you have to configure it, please read the wiki
[10:19] <lorenzod> jamey3, when you get the grub boot message, hit escape.
[10:19] <vikash> i add a folder in shared folder
[10:19] <jamey3> lorenzod, thanks :)
[10:20] <jamey3> brb
[10:20] <vikash> wiki
[10:20] <vikash> where website
[10:20] <co_jomblo> hh
[10:20] <vikash> hi cevizoglu
[10:20] <cevizoglu> vikash, it's the info ubotu sent you
[10:20] <vikash> can u tell me how to configure it
[10:21] <vikash> where
[10:21] <vikash> they sent
[10:21] <cevizoglu> vikash, huh?
[10:21] <vikash> where is it in system
[10:21] <vikash> plz tell me plz plz
[10:22] <cevizoglu> vikash, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba           <- to see how to do it
[10:23] <vikash> ok i
[10:23] <vikash> will try
[10:23] <wrabbit01> ARG! :( I give up.
[10:23] <vikash> thanx
[10:23] <wrabbit01> For now at least.
[10:23] <Echelon-H> how can I know my cdrw path?
[10:27] <SlicerDicer-> btw is there any update on perhaps when nvidia drivers may be working with AMD64 and breezy? I havent been able to find any information on it
[10:30] <calvin> I'm back and am still having trouble installing the mpg player on ubuntu, from the very begining can someone help me?
[10:30] <linner> OK.... between the time i just rebooted (10 minutes ago) and now.... my password to run synaptic has failed.  I haven't changed it either.
[10:31] <linner> ok now it works....
[10:31] <ccooke-work> Right, that *does* it.
[10:31] <cevizoglu> linner, you typed it wrong
[10:32] <ccooke-work> What is the *canonical* *default* *whatever* method of setting up networking in Ubuntu?
[10:32] <ccooke-work> and whose head do I have to break about it?
[10:32] <cevizoglu> linner, not like I installed a keylogger on your machine or anything  :D
[10:32] <calvin> ?can anyone help me with installing a mpg player?
[10:33] <cevizoglu> !tell calvin about easyaddprograms
[10:33] <linner> cevizoglu:  must have been... i typed it four times before i posted in the channel
[10:33] <linner> cevizoglu:  hehehehehe
[10:33] <calvin> that still isn't helping me, when I open that, how do I find the program to install?
[10:34] <ccooke-work> Anyone? Anyone I could talk to about it before I write my own system *again*?
[10:34] <cevizoglu> calvin, you should use synaptic, then there are several
[10:34] <cevizoglu> !players
[10:34] <ubotu> it has been said that players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[10:35] <calvin> I installed everything that said mpeg but what player do they work with?
[10:35] <bob2> ccooke-work: wtf
[10:35] <bob2> ccooke-work: /etc/network/interfaces
[10:35] <cevizoglu> calvin: read above
[10:36] <ccooke-work> bob2: No. That is not an acceptable solution. I can do some clever things with it, sure, but it does not deal with being on different networks at all well.
[10:36] <calvin> the only one in the list is totem and xmms and neither of those will open my files
[10:36] <bob2> whingewhingewhinge
[10:36] <bob2> ccooke-work: loop at laptop-net or network-manager then
[10:36] <calvin> totem says no plugin installed
[10:36] <ccooke-work> I've been trying to get along with the network settinfs in the Ubuntu menus, but they're pretty much unusable for a laptop.
[10:36] <cevizoglu> calvin, you need to add more repositories then
[10:36] <bob2> and stop having such a terrible attitude
[10:37] <tanya> #irc
[10:37] <calvin> this is my first day in linux anything
[10:37] <cevizoglu> !tell calvin about repositories
[10:37] <vladuz976> why doesn't ubuntu show the contents of /etc/motd when i log in a new terminal?
[10:37] <ccooke-work> bob2: terrible? No. Irritated, yes.
[10:37] <bob2> ccooke-work: well, whatever
[10:38] <bob2> ccooke-work: whinging won't help; improving laptop-net or network-manager to do what you want, would.
[10:38] <ccooke-work> bob2: isn't there a solution in main I could help with?
[10:39] <bob2> ccooke-work: network-manager will go into main when it's less buggy
[10:39] <bob2> it was hoped that would be pre-breezy, but it was not to be
[10:39] <ccooke-work> bob2: ahhhh. So that was the answer to my question.
[10:39] <ccooke-work> bob2: *great*
[10:39] <ccooke-work> I'll go look at it right away
[10:40] <ccooke-work> I wonder if it does things the way I do :-)
[10:41] <adl> vladuz976, you can enable it by adding a line to /etc/profile
[10:42] <vladuz976> adl, what line?
[10:42] <ccooke-work> bob2: ... Hmm. Impressive. Thank you so much.
[10:42] <jamey3> Seveas, thank you very much... it worked perfectly. :-)
[10:43] <crodler> hi
[10:43] <jamey3> hi crodler
[10:43] <adl> vladuz976, a "cat /etc/motd"
[10:43] <henk> good morning...
[10:43] <crodler> is there any working iax client for hoary?
[10:44] <gorilla> hint: for xchat users join the #ubuntu channel last, to allow for xchat to authenticate your nick before attempting to join #ubuntu.
[10:44] <aftertaf_> gorilla:  :)
[10:44] <sorush20> when I try to go into administerator mode in the network settings, I don't see a button to let me go into that mood
[10:44] <henk> I have my desktop set up pretty good now, what whould i need to display and use it remotely on a windows box. (@ work that is)
[10:44] <sorush20> can someone help please.
[10:45] <jamey3> henk, turn on "Remote Desktop" then make sure the port is forwarded
[10:45] <Skid> neverball is quiet fun :)
[10:45] <jamey3> henk, make sure you put a password on it too
[10:45] <henk> jamey3, i was more talking about the client side
[10:45] <Skid> I can see that i'm going to waste hours on that :)
[10:45] <dawkirst> Hello people.
[10:45] <henk> i found the remote desktop thing, but now what :)
[10:45] <jamey3> henk, oh right well just use some sort of VNC viewer, e.g. WinVNC or TightVNC
[10:45] <gorilla> whats neverball?
[10:45] <dawkirst> I seem to have some difficulties concerning my printer.
[10:45] <jamey3> henk, tick the first checkbox and enter a password at the bottom
[10:45] <henk> ah ok any recomendations ?
[10:46] <Skid> gorilla: it's like monkeyball - apt-get install neverball
[10:46] <henk> or should just try 'm out
[10:46] <Skid> fun :)
[10:46] <gorilla> dawkirst, which printer?
[10:46] <Skid> http://icculus.org/neverball/#screenshots
[10:46] <dawkirst> gorilla: it's a HP Deskjet 610C.
[10:46] <jamey3> henk, yeah both are pretty good, setting their options so that it works at a reasonable speed is the difficult bit
[10:47] <ColonelKernel> lol @ waterboy
[10:47] <jamey3> woops
[10:47] <henk> hmm the passwordfield is limited to 8 chars... wierd
[10:47] <ColonelKernel> "you can do eet - cut hees ******* head off!"
[10:47] <ColonelKernel> i forgot about that part
[10:48] <jamey3> henk, yeah I've only just noticed that :)
[10:48] <dawkirst> gorilla
[10:48] <dawkirst> gorilla, any suggestions?
[10:48] <jamey3> henk, you might want to untick "Ask for confirmation"
[10:48] <henk> i did already
[10:48] <jamey3> k
[10:48] <gorilla> dawkirst, not really it should just work... :-/
[10:49] <dawkirst> gorilla: well, it does, but the printed material comes out all in scrambled symbols and greek letters....
[10:50] <henk> jamey3, is it the vino-server @ port 5900 ?
[10:50] <linner> aftertaf:  are you there dear?
[10:50] <aftertaf> yep ;)
[10:50] <bzimage> henk, vnc you mean?
[10:50] <aftertaf> can you see my reply?
[10:50] <henk> uhu
[10:50] <bzimage> yep.. 5900
[10:50] <bzimage> :)
[10:50] <aftertaf> in cyberhell, noone can hear you peer disconnect :/
[10:50] <henk> k i'll forward that
[10:51] <bzimage> aftertaf, lol
[10:51] <bzimage> :P
[10:51] <aftertaf> ahhhhh. coooooool
[10:51] <aftertaf> thought id become virtual
[10:51] <gorilla> dawkirst, you need to install a postcript converter.. unfortunately i'm not sure what's involved.
[10:51] <bzimage> *bip bip Flib*
[10:51] <nalioth> aftertaf: c'mon man, enough denials
[10:52] <nalioth> aftertaf: we KNOW you
[10:52] <aftertaf> dunno nalioth, does it come in 5's?
[10:52] <aftertaf> nalioth:  are you on ritalin?
[10:52] <linner> you're too much aftertaf
[10:52] <deepwoodz> i have a problem... my screen resolution is very small... and it wont allow me to change it to fullsize... i have a intergrated intel processor... it tells me to run a command on ubuntu's site but how do i do that?
[10:52] <deepwoodz> :|
[10:53] <nalioth> deepwoodz: in a terminal
[10:53] <deepwoodz> i c
[10:53] <deepwoodz> ty
[10:53] <aftertaf> i got worried my lag counter had stopped working
[10:54] <aftertaf> linner:  you on the correct time now?
[10:54] <linner> nope
[10:54] <linner> ;(I
[10:54] <linner> aftertaf:  did you get my messages dude?
[10:54] <nalioth> bzimage: many things are simple in the terminal (conversely, you can find yourself hip-deep in alligators with one stroke of the "enter" key)
[10:54] <RMeist> 2.6.12-9-386
[10:54] <dawkirst> gorilla: ty; what exactly is the definition of a postcript tho?
[10:54] <bzimage> nalioth, true tue
[10:54] <aftertaf> linner:  pink floyd? yep i did. you get mine?
[10:54] <linner> nope :(
[10:55] <aftertaf> hangon...
[10:55] <aftertaf> mode +e
[10:56] <linner> hello?
[10:56] <gorilla> dawkirst, postscript is a langauge that better laser printers use.
[10:56] <Skid> hrm, this mac-on-linux, does it require a PPC arch?
[10:56] <mjr> Skid, yes
[10:56] <Skid> mjr: alright cheers - I will have to break my girls laptop instead of mine then :P
[10:56] <dawkirst> gorilla: ty. Is there anyway I can detect the printer plugged into my machine?
[10:56] <mjr> Skid, see qemu or pearpc for running PPC macoses on x86 Linux. Slowly, tho.
[10:57] <Skid> aye, I've used pearpc before, didn't like it
[10:57] <Skid> plus, it doesn't like tiger
[10:57] <cg1> hi everyone, can some tell me how to use dpkg-buildpackage?  i am trying to set up my thumb buttons on my mouse and need to install the logitech tarball
[10:57] <gorilla> dawkirst, I'm not sure... I don't have a printer here... :-(
[10:57] <cat> cg1: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or xorg
[10:57] <cat> !set up x
[10:57] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, cat
[10:58] <cg1> thx cat
[10:58] <dawkirst> gorilla: ty all the same :)
[10:58] <cat> np
[10:59] <linner> oh no... here we go again aftertaf
[11:01] <dmacdonald111> Hi all. I have been installing ubuntu, gnome and have been trying to set up my wireless network. I know how to do this, however, I seem to be having problems registering as owner to make the required changes. Can anyone help?
[11:01] <nalioth> !tell dmacdonald111 about root
[11:04] <dmacdonald111> Thank you! That's extremely helpful.
[11:04] <dmacdonald111> :)
[11:04] <bzimage> it still amazes me: the linux user root. (it a vegetable!)
[11:04] <bzimage> 's
[11:04] <ccooke-work> bzimage: well... strictly speaking, it's not
[11:04] <Skid> or, a variety even.
[11:05] <ccooke-work> root vegetables are tubers...
[11:05] <stan|uni> !tell stan|uni about root
[11:05] <Skid> root vegtables,
[11:05] <Skid> buh beat me.
[11:05] <Skid> :P
[11:05] <ccooke-work> which are a modified *kind* of root :-)
[11:05] <Skid> ccooke-work: btw, fixed the issue with the k750i :D
[11:05] <cat> how do you stop gdm starting automaticly?
[11:05] <bzimage> still.. its a funny username
[11:05] <Skid> its still to do with hald, but hopefully that'll be sorted in breezey for me :)
[11:05] <bzimage> :P
[11:05] <stan|uni> nice function
[11:06] <dmacdonald111> Just one more question before I rush off to play again, what are Warty, Hoary & this badger stuff? Sorry if it's a silly question.
[11:07] <bzimage> like linus was working in the agriculture when he thought of root
[11:07] <ccooke-work> dmacdonald111: they're names for the different versions of Ubuntu
[11:07] <ccooke-work> bzimage: actually, it's inherited from Unix
[11:07] <ccooke-work> the root user is over thirty years old...
[11:07] <bzimage> ccooke-work, i know that..
[11:07] <dmacdonald111> ah. I haven't seen any reference to these when I installed.
[11:07] <Renski> whats your first name dmacdonald111?
[11:08] <Cryptid> Will please some 1 gimme the link from where i can download Java and W32codecs some 1 had givenit to me eariler but i forgot to note it down
[11:08] <dmacdonald111> er, Daniel. Why? :)
[11:08] <nalioth> Cryptid: hoary or breezy?
[11:08] <Renski> ah, its ok, I thought you stole my name.
[11:08] <Renski> <--- Darren McDonald
[11:08] <dmacdonald111> hehe. cool!
[11:08] <Cryptid> nalioth, hoary
[11:08] <loststryk> <-- ronald....
[11:08] <dmacdonald111> lol
[11:08] <ccooke-work> dmacdonald111: Warty was the first (4.10) release. Hoary is 5.04 and Breezy is 5.10.
[11:08] <Cryptid> nalioth, i thin u were the 1 who gave it to me eariler
[11:08] <dmacdonald111> I'll have a double cheeseburger please!
[11:08] <nalioth> Cryptid: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[11:08] <nalioth> Cryptid: bookmark
[11:08] <loststryk> would you like frys with that ?
[11:09] <dmacdonald111> ah! makes sense. Thank you cooke-work
[11:09] <dmacdonald111> please lostsryk!
[11:09] <loststryk> :)
[11:09] <Cryptid>  nalioth, ya i will
[11:09] <dmacdonald111> anyhoo, could talk food all day, but I really want to get this ubuntu working. see ya lata!
[11:09] <nalioth> Cryptid: come back and see me when you upgrade to breezy
[11:09] <ccooke-work> bzimage: Sorry :-)
[11:10] <loststryk> i'm loving this flavour
[11:10] <bzimage> ccooke-work, sorry?
[11:10] <loststryk> does everything i need apart from one thing
[11:10] <bzimage> loststryk, and that is?
[11:10] <Cryptid> nalioth, i ordered for Breezy god know when i will get it may be anoter 2 or 3 weeks
[11:11] <loststryk> getting ftpfxp-mew working properly.... once thats done i'll rm -rf windows
[11:11] <bzimage> Cryptid, download it.. (faster)
[11:11] <Cryptid> bzimage, how many mb is it
[11:11] <bzimage> like one cd
[11:11] <loststryk> under 700mb
[11:11] <Cryptid> bzimage, its not yet the final version rite so i dont want to take risk
[11:12] <bzimage> right...