[00:00] <ibkanat> currrently have nvidia-glx installed.... I tried to do the nvidia install from download but didnt have the right headers
[00:00] <ibkanat> maybe now I do just had a update
[00:01] <ibkanat> it is supported by the nvidia driver I have had it working before
[00:01] <ibkanat> just a bit at a loss what to do now
[00:02] <ibkanat> is there a way to check if the module installed right?
[00:02] <parkin> !juk
[00:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about juk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:03] <Zealot87> can anyone help me with xorg, i was trying to set dual monitors and now it's all messed up, i just want it to work with one of my monitors again :P
[00:03] <Zealot87> it keeps thinking the agp graphics card is located at PCI;1;0;0 or something
[00:03] <Dr_willis> ibkanat,  check the troubleshooting guide at the !nvidia page I guess.
[00:03] <Zealot87> i dont know how to tell it that it isnt
[00:03] <Dr_willis> !nvidia | ibkanat
[00:03] <ubotu> ibkanat: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:04] <Dr_willis> Zealot87,   check in /etc/X11/ there may be a backuped/origibnal xorg.conf file.
[00:04] <ibkanat> thanks I have tried those will look again I guess
[00:05] <ibkanat> is it worth it to try out kde4 is it fairly stable?
[00:05] <Dr_willis> ibkanat,  There is a glx module that needs to get loaded I thouhgt.. or perhaps with nvidia cards it DOSENT need tog et loaded.
[00:05] <Dr_willis> dont get to excit3ed about kde4 at this time.
[00:05] <Dr_willis> its still a work in progress
[00:05] <Zealot87> how do i move files from the commandline?
[00:05] <ibkanat> ok I am using it and it looks nice
[00:06] <Dr_willis> It was constantly crashing on me.,
[00:06] <Zealot87> how do i make the 'dir' command go slowly so i can see all the directories?
[00:07] <Dr_willis> dir command?
[00:07] <Dr_willis> Hmmm
[00:07] <ibkanat> ok... I guess I will wait is it Kubuntu's or is kde 4 fairly unstable??? I thought they just had a final release
[00:07] <ibkanat> ls
[00:07] <Dr_willis> most people use 'ls' :) not dir.
[00:07] <Dr_willis> dir | less   for pageing the output
[00:07] <Zealot87> im used to windows command prompt
[00:07] <Dr_willis> I have ls for windows/dos :)
[00:07] <Zealot87> welll, i never learned ls then :P
[00:08] <Zealot87> i was really young when i used DOS
[00:08] <Dr_willis> time to learn the bash FUNdaMENTALs :)
[00:08] <Zealot87> which of the old xorg.conf files should i use
[00:08] <Dr_willis> Zealot87,  depends on what ones you got..  and what you did to enable the dual monitors.
[00:09] <Dr_willis> ls -l shows them and the date last changed.  try the earliest one
[00:09] <Zealot87> uhhh i used the xorg configure program in the new kubuntu :P
[00:09] <Dr_willis> ls -l still shows the date.
[00:09] <genii> Zealot87: kxgenerator ?
[00:09] <Dr_willis> New Kubuntu?
[00:10] <genii> Dr_willis:  :)
[00:10] <Zealot87> oooh that makes pretty lists :)
[00:10] <Zealot87> genii, it is in the system settings of kubuntu
[00:10] <ibkanat> thanks Dr_willis laters
[00:10] <Zealot87> after that didnt work though, i reverted to dpkg reconfigure but that just ruined my xorg.conf :P
[00:11] <Zealot87> ok now how would i switch the xorg.conf with an old one?
[00:12] <genii> Zealot87: it will be something like    sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf<date of one you want>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:13] <Zealot87> and that will do the replacing for me?
[00:14] <genii> Zealot87: yes
[00:14] <Zealot87> i think its working, im starting x now
[00:14] <genii> Zealot87: where I put <date of one you want> substitute accordingly
[00:14] <Zealot87> yeah i used xorg.conf.1 because 2-9 were all yesterday :P
[00:15] <Zealot87> it worked!
[00:15] <Zealot87> thanks all for help!
[00:16] <Dr_willis> And once again logic and though pays off! :)
[00:16] <Dr_willis> Thought.
[00:16] <Dr_willis> and a little shell voodoo. (but its not)
[00:16] <wesley> how would you install ubuntu on 1 gb?
[00:17] <Dr_willis> wesley,  depends on what you want it to do.
[00:17] <Dr_willis> a 1gb usb drive? Or you are just real real tight on hd space?
[00:17] <biovore> wesley: hmm server install and install console system then install the gui stuff peice mill.. ( if on a HD )
[00:17] <wesley> just daily use but what i mean is the OX Computer i dis=d see 2 on ebay
[00:19] <wesley> it looks a nice computer that ox computer its runs fedora core 7 i did here
[00:19]  * Dr_willis is totally lost. :)
[00:19] <wesley> http://xoforall.com
[00:19] <Dr_willis> 1gb i going to be tight for  a kubuntu/ubuntu isntall.. its proberly doable. but not much space for  other things
[00:20] <wesley> you could chose for a flash usb thing to run your os on it?
[00:21] <Dr_willis> Installing ubuntukubuntu to a usb-flash has issues to watch out for also
[00:21] <wesley> i know i did try it with 2 gb mini sd
[00:21] <Dr_willis> running kubuntu on one of the OLPC  laptops will be a bit tight.
[00:22] <wesley> it gots 450 mhz and 256 mb ram
[00:23] <Dr_willis> yes.. and it will still be a bit tight..
[00:23] <Dr_willis> I imagine theres people doing it :)
[00:23] <Odd-rationale> wesley: I would think that you would need more than a gb. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[00:24] <Dr_willis> for a 'full' linux disrto on that thing. I think DSL, or PuppyLinux may serve better.
[00:24] <Odd-rationale> wesley: And even though your flash usb might say 1 gb, it might really be less than tha.
[00:24] <Odd-rationale> *that
[00:24] <Paddy_EIRE> zenwalk maybe Dr_willis
[00:24] <wesley> that things runs fedora its seems standaard the OX computer runs linux
[00:25] <Dr_willis> its running a very very very cut down fedora
[00:25] <Paddy_EIRE> matchbox window manager
[00:25] <Odd-rationale> wesley: I agree with Dr_willis. Use dsl or (my pref) puppy linux.
[00:25] <Dr_willis> it does run linux correct.. :) linux can run on lots of things..
[00:25] <biovore> well I have mashed debian sarge into 400MB and 128MB ram on a PI 233 MHz Machine and it worked ok.. Just don't expect much..
[00:25] <Dr_willis> that dosent mean you can install kubntu on it and have it run we..
[00:25] <posingaspopular> offtopic guys....
[00:25] <Daisuke_Ido> toasters...  microwaves...  the occasional hamster
[00:26] <Zealot89> i just dont work with the shell enough to remember all of the commands well enough.  but most importantly because i just switched back to kubuntu after the final year in an 8 year lifespan of my windows machine finally came to an end :P
[00:26] <wesley> yeah okay i know you need for kubuntu 2 gb but mint linux seems to run on it and fedora
[00:26]  * genii contemplates the linux powered internet coffee appliance
[00:26] <Dr_willis> I would think a minimal hd space needed for a useable kubuntu system would be about a 1gb+
[00:26] <wesley> but first getting one i live in dutch
[00:27] <genii> Dr_willis: With always using the wipe cache switch of apt-get I managed to install on 780Mb
[00:27]  * Dr_willis has lost the logic of this thread. :)
[00:27] <Dr_willis> genii,  You sicko! :0
[00:27] <genii> heehee
[00:28] <wesley> wipe cache off?
[00:28] <Dr_willis> when you isntall packages they get cached in /var/cache/apt/SOMTHING :)
[00:28] <Dr_willis> that cache can get a bit big at times
[00:28] <genii> wesley: apt-get stores in /var/cache/apt/archives, there is a switch whch always wipes it after installing the app
[00:29] <Dr_willis> so in 'theory' one can install kubuntu on a 1gb filesytem.. with work.
[00:30] <wesley> yeah okay but will everthing work on 450 mhz
[00:30] <biovore> kde will be slow and you need 384 MB ram for all the eye candy
[00:31] <wesley> What the Classmate PC?
[00:34] <genii> I remember now, made apt.conf entry of APT::Dir::Cache::pkgcache "/tmp";
[00:34] <ainrout> is linux another type of ubuntu, or is it just a "kernel"?
[00:35] <wesley> The Classmate pc looks intresting
[00:35] <genii> linux itself is just the kernel, yes
[00:35] <genii> ainrout: linux itself is just the kernel, yes
[00:36] <biovore> If your not doing graphics.. linux can be very small
[00:37] <genii> ainrout: A distrbution of linux like ubuntu is the kernel of linux (sometimes adjusted with patches to make the applications supplied with it operate properly) with a bundled set of applications
[00:37] <Dr_willis> Linux is all about layers and legos. :) Not layers like an Onion. :)
[00:37] <Dr_willis> PuppyLinux - is a full disrto that can fit under 50mb.
[00:38] <MaTiAz> linux is whatever you can make it :p
[00:38] <dorkface> Hi all.  I have a dell laptop that has volume control by buttons.  However, with kmix, the volume goes up and down 10% each time, not sensitive enough for my tastes.  Does anyone have enough experience with it to lead me in the right direction?
[00:38] <ainrout> aha, thank you
[00:39] <wesley> its not easy getting in europa a xo laptop
[00:40] <Dr_willis> i think id rather have an Asus EEEpc. then an XO. But thats just me. :P
[00:42] <flowers> does anyone run compiz?
[00:43] <wesley> The Asus eee pc is indeed al little better but expensive
[00:43] <Dr_willis> Yep. Depends on your needs.
[00:43] <Dr_willis> I cant afford either.. so im getting Neither. :P
[00:44] <amine> bonsoir tout le monde
[00:44] <amine> j'ai une question
[00:44] <biovore> !fr
[00:44] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[00:45] <stealthy> Anyone know if there's a way to do software T&L for gma950 on linux? I know the windows drivers do it, but this isn't windows
[00:45] <biovore> stealthy: T&L?
[00:45] <Doctor_Subtilis> is it possible to reinstall compiz-fuzion AND its dependencies from terminal?
[00:45] <Dr_willis> why do you need to 'reinstall' it?
[00:46] <Dr_willis> yes.its  doable Doctor_Subtilis
[00:46] <sweettooth> i'm trying to install a program and after doing a 'make' i get the following list of errors... http://pastebin.com/d1be944b4
[00:46] <sweettooth> help?
[00:46] <Doctor_Subtilis> it keeps saying that xgl is missing
[00:46] <Doctor_Subtilis> and it was working the other day
[00:46] <Dr_willis> sweettooth,  you did install the build-essential package?
[00:46] <Dr_willis> Doctor_Subtilis,  thats most likely a X driver issue. Not a compiz issue
[00:46] <sweettooth> what package is that
[00:46] <Doctor_Subtilis> it was working for a week or so actually, no problems
[00:46] <Doctor_Subtilis> gahh
[00:47] <sweettooth> Dr_willis: can i get that through apt-get?
[00:47] <Doctor_Subtilis> btw, this is Zealot87 who just switched his xorg.conf back, so that could be the problem then...i was hoping it wasnt
[00:47] <genii> Wow,this room seems full of Dr's
[00:47] <Doctor_Subtilis> hehe
[00:47]  * sweettooth is a linux nooberz :)
[00:48] <Doctor_Subtilis> Dr_willis; how can i get it reconfigured to work then? should i uninstall it and reinstall it and its dependencies?
[00:49]  * genii ponders the ubiquitous sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:50] <tlmarker> can someone help me with KDE4?
[00:50] <Dr_willis> Doctor_Subtilis,  if the X driver is messed up/not right - thats nothing to do with compiz
[00:50] <sweettooth> Dr_willis: as a matter of fact, yes I did install the build-essential package. I just checked.
[00:53] <sweettooth> why else  would i be getting these errors?
[00:53] <sweettooth> http://pastebin.com/d1be944b4
[00:53] <Doctor_Subtilis> well what should i do to fix X then?
[00:53] <Doctor_Subtilis> graphics are working just fine
[00:54] <genii> sweettooth: You are trying to compile Enlightenment window manager?
[00:54] <tlmarker> has anyone tryed the new KDE4?
[00:54] <sweettooth> genii: yes.
[00:55] <genii> sweettooth: Why not just install the package instead
[00:55] <sweettooth> genii: rpm?
[00:55] <genii> sweettooth: no.
[00:56] <genii> sweettooth: in konsole:    sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install enlightenment
[00:56] <sweettooth> ok let me try that 1 sec
[00:57] <Dr_willis> This is when it pays to summarize the question.. not just paste a pastebin site and expect people to read the actual queation
[00:57] <sweettooth> genii: got some errors.. wanna see?
[00:58] <genii> sure
[00:59] <genii> sweettooth: Was your computer connected to the internet when you installed kubuntu?
[00:59] <sweettooth> genii: http://pastebin.com/d233b8b22
[00:59] <sweettooth> genii: no.
[01:00] <BluesKaj> FF still won't launch from URL links in Thunderbird . None of the so called fixes that i've managed to track down will launch FF ...suggestions ?
[01:01] <Doctor_Subtilis> is there a compiz irc channel?
[01:01] <genii> sweettooth: sudo apt-get remove --purge enlightenment; sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/enlightenment* ; sudo apt-get install enlightenment
[01:01] <biovore> !compiz
[01:01] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[01:02] <sweettooth> genii: ok one sc
[01:03] <sweettooth> genii: same errors
[01:04] <Doctor_Subtilis> anyone know how to reposition the kopete bubbles?
[01:07] <sweettooth> genii: got any other suggestions?
[01:08] <genii> sweettooth: The package you have been trying to compile is interfering
[01:08] <sweettooth> genii: i see. So what should i do?
[01:08] <genii> sweettooth: So if you are still in the directory which you tried "make" or "make install" from, do "make clean"
[01:09] <sweettooth> genii: Gotcha
[01:09] <sweettooth> genii: done.
[01:09] <genii> sweettooth: Then try again only: sudo apt-get install enlightenment
[01:10] <sweettooth> genii: ok, 1 sec
[01:10] <genii> laptop is dying need to go dig out cord, away a bit
[01:11] <sweettooth> genii: same eror =/
[01:11] <sweettooth> error*
[01:11] <Dr_willis> the Geubuntu and gOS repositories have all sorts of Enlightenment related packages. :P
[01:12] <Dr_willis> Not that i cared much for gOS or geubuntu very much.
[01:12] <stealthy> biovore: T&L - transform and lighting
[01:14] <genii> sweettooth: Well, since it thinks at least part of enlightenment is already in there, perhaps try instead:   sudo apt-get install --reinstall enlightenment
[01:14] <genii> back, incidentally ;)
[01:15] <stealthy> so anyway, does anyone know of some sort of software gma950 T&L emulation?
[01:16] <sweettooth> genii: nope :(
[01:17] <genii> sweettooth: OK, as before with "make clean"   but this time with "make dist-clean"
[01:18] <dick-richardson> how do I view quicktime in firefox?
[01:19] <sweettooth> genii: ok 1 sec
[01:19] <mathieu__> hola
[01:20] <mathieu__> how can I search which package contain a certain binary?
[01:20] <mathieu__> ie. Im looking for kde4-config
[01:20] <sweettooth> genii: make: *** No rule to make target `dist-clean'.  Stop.
[01:20] <crimsun> mathieu__: apt-find, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:20]  * genii ruminates
[01:20] <crimsun> s#find#file#
[01:21] <crimsun> (sorry, have been typing 'find' very often in the past twenty minutes)
[01:21] <iVoted> just a quick question... Where would i go to get more plasmoids for kde4?
[01:21] <mathieu__> thanks. (its weird that apt-find is not installed by default, then...)
[01:22] <crimsun> mathieu__: it's apt-file; see my above correction
[01:22] <mathieu__> err apt-file, lol
[01:22] <crimsun> note that http://packages.ubuntu.com has a variable delay
[01:23] <genii> sweettooth: OK. There is another way which may work. It will download the correct source code for enlightenment into the current directory and then compile it into a .deb file which you can then do: sudo dpkg -i <packagename.deb>   with. So we need to be in the dir above the one which you put the other source code in so it overwrites
[01:23] <_hufi_> how i can enter on kubuntu here?
[01:24] <_hufi_> www.knuddels.at
[01:24] <genii> sweettooth: So in this case it looks like your /home/sweettooth/desktop    directory
[01:24] <stdin> !java | _hufi_
[01:24] <ubotu> _hufi_: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[01:24] <genii> desktop with uppercase D that is
[01:25] <mathieu__> iVoted: extragears-plasma-data
[01:25] <genii> sweettooth: so in that dir:  sudo apt-get source --compile enlightenment
[01:26] <stdin> mathieu__: that's just the images for the plasmoids, it needs extragears-plasma to work
[01:26]  * genii makes more coffee
[01:26] <genii> stdin: Any word on kde4 ligature yet? (just curious)
[01:27] <sweettooth> genii: ok 1 sec
[01:27] <sweettooth> genii: im going to make a new dir on my desktop and do it there
[01:28] <genii> sweettooth: OK
[01:28] <stdin> genii: if it wasn't released with 4.0.0, then it basically needs someone to go out and choose to package it
[01:28] <iVoted> mathieu__: thanks
[01:28] <umbert> salve
[01:29] <sweettooth> genii: E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[01:29] <umbert> c'è qlk italiano?
[01:29] <_hufi_> i dont understand
[01:29] <_hufi_> how i enable backports?
[01:30] <stdin> !backports | _hufi_
[01:30] <ubotu> _hufi_: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[01:30] <NickPresta> !backports | _hufi_
[01:30] <stdin> !it | umbert
[01:30] <ubotu> umbert: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:30] <genii> sweettooth: ok 1 minute roomie venting here
[01:31] <sweettooth> ok
[01:31] <sweettooth> lol
[01:31] <NickPresta> umbert, tipo: /join #kubuntu-it
[01:32] <genii> sweettooth: OK back
[01:33] <sweettooth> genii: ok.. just let me know which lines to uncomment in sources file
[01:34] <_hufi_> stdin cant you simpely say what i have to type in the console to enter this side?
[01:34] <genii> sweettooth: edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list   .If you have lines beginning # deb-src  remove the # if you have no lines beginning like this then for every line which begins with deb <something>  duplicate this line and make the new line begin deb-src <whatever>
[01:34] <mith__> hi all
[01:35] <mathieu__> hmm im trying to build a kde4 program but I have problems doing it with the supplied kde4
[01:35] <mathieu__> is it supposed to work or.. well, not yet?
[01:35] <genii> sweettooth: Remember you need admin priveege to edit this file so from konsole is sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list   or from kde gui alt-f2 then kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:35] <stdin> _hufi_: just install sun-java6-jre
[01:35] <mith__> i have tried to install a .deb package but it says "the package doesn't exists" but... it's there!!...
[01:35]  * stdin goes back to meeting
[01:37] <dsmith_> anyone know if the netgear wireless 311 pci card works with *buntu?
[01:37] <genii> sweettooth: After saving the changes: sudo apt-get update     then try again    sudo apt-get source --compile enlightenment
[01:37] <sweettooth> genii: ok
[01:37] <dsmith_> e17? eww
[01:38] <dsmith_> well my opinion anyways
[01:39] <sweettooth> genii: http://pastebin.com/m50656b48
[01:39] <Dr_willis> I think i would like enlughtntment more if they removed the  flashy eyecandy
[01:39] <genii> dsmith_: I think 16 may still be the package
[01:39] <Dr_willis> but then what would be the point. :)
[01:39] <genii> !info enlightenment
[01:39] <ubotu> enlightenment: The Enlightenment Window Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-5 (gutsy), package size 398 kB, installed size 1004 kB
[01:39] <_hufi_> stdin it dosent work
[01:39] <Dr_willis> the gOS and Geubuntu disrtos (ubuntu variants) have enhanced enlightment pcakges in their repos also.
[01:41] <maco_> Hola manes....
[01:41] <maco_> English o Español????????
[01:41] <genii> sweettooth: sudo apt-get source build-dep --compile enlightenment
[01:41] <mith__> i have tried to install a .deb package... but when it starts installing it, it says: " the package doesn't exist" what is the problem? what should i do?
[01:41] <_hufi_> stdin haha funkt doch
[01:41] <mith__> any idea?
[01:41] <_hufi_> stdin thx
[01:42] <maco_> People, I need help!!!!!!!
[01:42] <stdin> !es
[01:42] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:42] <genii> maco_: You still have not descried your problem
[01:42] <sweettooth> genii: E: Unable to find a source package for build-dep
[01:42] <genii> *described
[01:42] <maco_> ok...
[01:42] <maco_> I want to install KDE4
[01:42] <maco_> on my Ubuntu
[01:43] <genii> sweettooth: sudo apt-get build-dep enlightenment; sudo apt-get source --compile enlightenment        <goes to look at manpage for apt-get for a minute>
[01:43] <stdin> maco_: do you read channel topics?
[01:44] <genii> maco_: do /topic   to see the link you need
[01:45] <maco_> Ubuntu 8.04. I have installed it from the terminal, typing: <sudo apt-get install kde4-core> and it installed succesfully. The problem is that when i choose it on the login screen, and y login succesfully, It never shows me the desktop. It says me: <Could not start D-BUS. Check your installation> What should I do??
[01:47] <maco_> Can anybody help me?? Please!!
[01:48] <genii> sigh
[01:50] <maco_> Pleaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssseeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!1
[01:50] <Dr_willis> maco_: do /topic   to see the link you need
[01:50] <sweettooth> genii: ok
[01:51] <maco_> Dr_willis i dont understand!!!!
[01:51] <genii> maco_: go to channel #kubuntu-kde4
[01:52] <maco_> ok....
[01:52] <genii> maco_: Since you are also running 8.04 you will not find support yet in this channel, try instead #ubuntu+1 channel for that
[01:52] <maco_> Are you sending me to that channel???????????
[01:53] <maco_> Cant you help me???
[01:53] <genii> maco_: click on where it says #kubuntu-kde4 or #ubuntu
[01:53] <genii> #ubuntu+1   rather      to go there
[01:55] <genii> !ping
[01:55] <ubotu> pong
[01:55] <genii> Hmm
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> not to mention the topic in #ubuntu+1 pretty much says that if you don't know what you're doing, you have no business running hardy yet - not those exact WORDS, true, but the concept is there
[01:57] <maco_> And... why do you have this channel??? If you arent helping me!!!!!!
[01:57] <Dr_willis> !kubuntu
[01:57] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[01:58] <genii> sweettooth: Any joy yet? I need to leave soon to catch the last priod of hockey at a friend's house :)
[01:58] <genii> *period
[01:58] <sweettooth> genii: lol
[01:59] <sweettooth> genii: looks like it went well but how do i know if its installed
[01:59] <genii> sweettooth: Good. You should have now at the login screen under where you choose session type the window manager enlightenment which you can choose
[02:00] <sweettooth> ooo ok
[02:00] <sweettooth> thanks :D
[02:00] <sweettooth> genii = the best
[02:00] <sweettooth> XD
[02:00] <sweettooth> g2g now.. got a date =)
[02:00] <sweettooth> c ya
[02:01] <genii> maco_: Some point to make: This channel is for supported versions of kubuntu. Hardy (8.04) is not yet a supported version. You can find some support for 8.04 in the channel #ubuntu+1 Also. kde4 is also not yet officially supported in this channel. So you have come to the wrong channel twice in a way of speaking. We have referred you to the corrct places to go for what you need.
[02:07] <CPrgmSwR2> Is there a cd out yet to install kubuntu with kde4 as default?
[02:07] <kilrae> genii: does kubuntu support windows?
[02:07] <Dr_willis> !windows
[02:07] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:07] <genii> CPrgmSwR2: No. But a debian livecd with kde4 preview exists. Google may find you where to download it
[02:08] <stdin> CPrgmSwR2: have you seen the announcement page? it's on there
[02:08] <CPrgmSwR2> stdin yes hafl the programs are missing
[02:08] <stdin> CPrgmSwR2: what half?
[02:08] <CPrgmSwR2> Like okular
[02:08] <CPrgmSwR2> kopete
[02:09] <Dr_willis> they are in the repos i thought. Not isntalled by default.
[02:09] <CPrgmSwR2> And amarok2
[02:09] <CPrgmSwR2> Along with koffice21
[02:09] <NickPresta> CPrgmSwR2, amarok2 is not out yet, AFAIK
[02:09] <Dr_willis> look in the package maanger.
[02:09] <stdin> nothing has amarok2 or koffice2
[02:09] <stdin> those aren't released
[02:09] <CPrgmSwR2> okay
[02:09] <stdin> amarok isn't even in beta yet
[02:10] <CPrgmSwR2> okay
[02:11] <stroud> I tried gutsy alpha 3 and it doesn't seem to have the restricted drivers package.  I need it for the broadcom wireless driver
[02:12] <NickPresta> stroud, gutsy (stable) is released.
[02:12] <stroud> opps I meant the next release (hardy?)
[02:12] <NickPresta> hardy, yes.
[02:13] <NickPresta> !hardy | stroud
[02:13] <ubotu> stroud: hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:20] <parkin> is there any releaseschedule for the next version of kubuntu aswell?
[02:23] <Daisuke_Ido> there will be an 8.04 release, but as far as i know, it will NOT be a long-term support lease.
[02:23] <Daisuke_Ido> release*
[02:23] <parkin> ok
[02:24] <sMonk> Hello all
[02:28] <sMonk> Hey, I just noticed a lot of the core has updates (kde4).. is there a site to get "what" in the code is being updated?
[02:29] <maco_> How do I open KONKEROR from the Konsole??
[02:29] <maco_> ¿¿??
[02:30] <maco_> I want to open Konkeror from Gnome, from terminal
[02:30] <ubuntu_> anyone know how to fix grub error 5 i tried googlin it but couldnt find an answer
[02:30] <maco_> Could u help me??
[02:32] <Dr_willis> the command 'konqueror' starts konqueror.
[02:33] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis: i think genii committed seppuku
[02:34] <Daisuke_Ido> and i completely understand why
[02:34] <Dr_willis> grub error 5 -  5 : "Disk geometry error" This error is returned when a read is attempted at a linear block address beyond the end of the BIOS translated area. This generally happens if your disk is larger than the BIOS can handle (512MB for (E)IDE disks on older machines or larger than 8GB in general).
[02:35] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  is this on a  old system?    You may need to enable the lba mode stuff.. Ive not had to mess with that in years, used to be a issue years ago with  hard drives.
[02:35] <ubuntu_> its not very old
[02:36] <NickPresta> Daisuke_Ido, :)
[02:36] <Dr_willis> has it ever worked , what have you done recently to it? what have you tried so far....
[02:36] <Daisuke_Ido> dark chocolate-covered espresso beans...  nomnomnom
[02:37] <trac1> have a question regarding system requirements
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> trac1: ok
[02:38] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. finding 2 different sites that give what error 5 means...
[02:38] <Dr_willis> 5 : Partition table invalid or corrupt This error is returned if the sanity checks on the integrity of the partition table fail. This is a bad sign.
[02:38] <ubuntu_> i had kubuntu on it a while ago but i formated my hd since then i have recently installed xp then i tried installing kubuntu and that happened...well i really dono what to try
[02:38] <NickPresta> trac1, what is your question?
[02:38] <trac1> is ubuntu going to work well on a p3, or do I need to install kubuntu?
[02:38] <trac1> new to linux alltogether
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> trac1: both should work about the same
[02:38] <NickPresta> trac1, I would imagine ubuntu will run slightly better (due to Gnome) than Kubuntu
[02:38] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  if its a clean install and nothign worth saving. I would say use fdisk and delete all the partitions, leaving the hd unallocated. restart the isntaller, and let it partition the drive.
[02:39] <trac1> i started w/ a new format
[02:39] <trac1> picked up a cheap lappy to play around w/
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> trac1: how fast is the processor?
[02:39] <ubuntu_> ok ty ill try
[02:39] <trac1> 933
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> p3's can range from 500 - 1ghz
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> trac1: nice... how much ram?
[02:40] <trac1> 256
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> trac1: ok, either kubuntu or ubuntu should work just fine
[02:40] <trac1> need to find some more, but it ran the graphic installer
[02:40] <NickPresta> trac1, that should run fine if you have the "special" effects turned off. I used to run Kubuntu (5.10) on a P3, 733 laptop with 256 RAM. You should be fine, at worst :)
[02:43] <trac1> altogether not a bad experience, things work differently then windows f/s
[02:43] <Dr_willis> sudo chown willis.willis /media/windows ----> no affect.
[02:44] <Dr_willis> doh wrong channel. :)
[02:44] <draik> Hello all
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> trac1: yep, thats the first step to learning linux :)
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> hey draik
[02:45] <draik> I have been looking into an internal wireless card for my new laptop
[02:45] <draik> Does anyone know if this is a good card... Orinoco 8660-FC -N  ?
[02:45] <draik> Hey nosrednaekim
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> draik: I think Orinoco's are good...
[02:46] <biovore> most intell chipsets work well..
[02:47] <draik> nosrednaekim: http://www.bizsyscon.com/product.php?id=3936
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> biovore: intel doesn't make wireless cards ;)
[02:49] <biovore> nosrednaekim: they make wireless chipsets.. (the part that matters)
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> biovore: yeah, but you just can't buy a mini-pci card
[02:52] <biovore> nosrednaekim: intel makes a 3945ABG Network card that is mini-pci expre
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> really? and sells it on retail?
[02:52] <Dr_willis> Argh - time to go to work. 3rd shift. :(  well  night all.
[02:53] <biovore> nosrednaekim: kcm_knetworkconfmodule
[02:53] <biovore> grr
[02:53] <biovore> nosrednaekim: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_PRO/Wireless_3945ABG_Mini-PCI_Express_Adapter
[02:54] <biovore> That what you talking about?
[02:54] <nico__> hola
[02:54] <nico__> hi
[02:55] <stdin> !test
[02:55] <Phoozer> stdin: Error: "test" is not a valid command.
[02:55] <ubotu> Failed.
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> hi nico__
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> biovore: i'm saying you can't buy one without buysing a whole laptop
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> draik: still looking into that chip :)
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> !hardware
[02:56] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> BTW... konqeuror4 is actually usable as a web browser :)
[02:58] <biovore> nosrednaekim: yeah.. I been messing with konqueror4.. seems to work fairly well after some updates..
[02:58] <draik> nosrednaekim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsProxim
[02:58] <draik> I don't understand that first part... Supports network install?
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> draik: means it can netboot
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> draik: looks like it works just fine...
[02:59] <AmyRose> nosrednaekim: Yeah, it's so usable, it krashes on me every half hour
[03:00] <draik> Wait
[03:00] <draik> Those are not it
[03:00] <draik> Those are PCMCIA
[03:00] <draik> I am looking for miniPCI
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> not the first one...
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> its PCI
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> hmmm you want mini PCI...
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> never mind...
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> AmyRose: <_<
[03:01] <biovore> http://www.softchoice.com/catalog/product.aspx?R=R77342_US_EN  <-- mini-pci express wirless
[03:01] <draik> biovore: :) You just solved it for me
[03:02]  * draik gives biovore a gold star
[03:03] <BluesKaj> well, Ive tried the the about:config in thunderbird preferences (network.protocol-handler.app.http - /opt/mozilla/bin/firefox) , but FF still won't launch from a link in thunderbird ...I wonder if anyone has actually solved this problem in gutsy ?
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> oh wow! I want one !! XD
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> biovore: I admnit i'm wrong :)
[03:03] <draik> BluesKaj: I don't have that issue. Thunderbird links open in FF
[03:03] <draik> How are your defaults?
[03:04] <BluesKaj> that really helps me draik :)
[03:04] <draik> biovore: And it seems to work right out of the box since Dapper
[03:04] <draik> BluesKaj: What are your defaults?
[03:04] <BluesKaj> FF & T-bird
[03:05] <BluesKaj> did a clean install after kde4 mucked up my setup
[03:05] <draik> BluesKaj: Do you have that setup through System Settings > Default Applications ?
[03:05] <BluesKaj> yeah
[03:08] <trac1> how much lag does Wine have, as compared to running an app in a windows environment?
[03:08] <biovore> depends on the app
[03:08] <biovore> sometime its not noticable.. sometimes..  forget about it..
[03:08] <draik> BluesKaj: I am looking at my settings for Thunderbird. Nothing stands out to me.
[03:08] <NickPresta> trac1, some applications have performance increases in Wine. Some have poor performance. It depends
[03:08] <stdin> trac1: sometimes wine is faster
[03:09] <BluesKaj> trac1,not really too bad ...I run a couple windows apps in wine with no noticeable lagtime
[03:09] <trac1> is shockwave doable? or not worth the hassle?
[03:10] <stdin> trac1: you'd have to install firefox in wine (and it should work fine)
[03:11] <BluesKaj> draik,  I've tried the the about:config in thunderbird preferences (network.protocol-handler.app.http - /opt/mozilla/bin/firefox), but that fix doesn't work either
[03:12] <trac1> thnx all
[03:16] <draik_> Someone had to call the house and disconnect me from the DSL connection :(
[03:17] <Daisuke_Ido> your...  dsl disconnects if you get a phone call?
[03:18] <draik_> Daisuke_Ido: Yes.
[03:18] <draik_> Takes about 30 sec (at least) to regain connection once the phone has been answered.
[03:19] <Daisuke_Ido> might i recommend those line filters that were provided by the phone company?
[03:19] <draik_> Like now
[03:19] <draik_> Bye all
[03:19] <Daisuke_Ido> they actually are useful
[03:19] <mith_> how can i configure my IrDa? or download a driver or sg?
[03:21] <vers> how do i use s-video?
[03:22] <BluesKaj> ppl don't understand that the frequency filters have to be installed on the phone side of the line.
[03:22]  * CadaverPimp swears profusely at the DSL connection
[03:37] <mith_> This is a warn. what should i do whit this? "apt API not stable yet"
[03:38] <mith_> because this the gdebi does't work...
[03:38] <stdin> unless you're planning on programming with apt, nothing
[03:38] <mith_> i tried to install a .deb package
[03:39] <stdin> what version of kubuntu are you on?
[03:39] <mith_> 7.10 gutsy
[03:39] <stdin> you probably want to report that as a bug then, if gdebi isn't working
[03:40] <stdin> for now just install the .deb the old fashioned way "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb"
[03:40] <mith_> after this message the gdebi says: " the package doesn't exist...etc"
[03:41] <mith_> hmm...okay i thougth that it's a fixed problem
[03:41] <mith_> thanks
[03:49] <draik> Hello all
[03:50] <draik> Sorry for the delay
[03:50] <draik> It appears that I was running a phone-a-thon
[03:50] <tlmarker> can anyone help me with my KDE4 hanging
[03:50] <draik> biovore: Why is it so difficult to get your account registered/verified through that site you provided for the mini PCI?
[03:51] <Dezine> Hello people
[03:52] <draik> Daisuke_Ido: I am using the DSL filters
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> ouch
[03:53] <draik> I know
[03:55] <draik> Seems that my house is hosting the Jerry Lewis Foundation
[03:57] <Daisuke_Ido> there's an off-color joke in there somewhere
[04:03] <draik> How compatible is the Intel 3945 with a Dell SmartStep 200N laptop?
[04:03] <draik> biovore: ^^^
[04:05] <biovore> no clue.. probably only works on core-duo systems
[04:10] <snarkster> i need some help with dvd iso's.  I have made backups of almost all of my DVD collection for use in my mythtv box.. but when I mount my iso kaffeine and mythplayer both say that that I dont have access to the dvds
[04:11] <snarkster> any suggestions as to what is going on?
[04:14] <snarkster> hmm guess Im shunned
[04:15] <knic> I tried to install vmware using the partner repositories, but the install wont finish (it fails during configure) the problem is I now want to install other pckages but they always tell me I have to finish the vmware install first
[04:15] <draik> biovore: Got anything for that old laptop?
[04:16] <biovore> nope
[04:16] <draik> Thanks
[04:17] <draik> It's getting late. I need to get my rest. Good night to one and all.
[04:17] <snarkster> night
[04:28] <Aranel> what the meaning of "dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)" ?
[04:28] <knic> when using kde alt+tab is strange, on my other laptop when I use alt+tab it goes to the last window I had focus, on this one it walks through all the windows, example if I used speedchrunch and alt tabed to konqueror a single alt tab should bring me back to speedchrunch, but it doesnt
[04:41] <nibbe> How do I open a .bin file? (realplayer installation). ./RealPlayer10GOLD-Linux.bin doesn't work "command not found"
[04:50] <Sonicadvance1> does kubuntu use xserver?
[04:53] <biovore> yes
[04:55] <biovore> Xorg 7.2 (I think)
[04:58] <test1-ba-pdgin> hi all, I have a big problem with the apt-get system:
[04:59] <test1-ba-pdgin> I downloaded all of the ubuntu repository and made the Packages.gz file with the dpkg-scanpackages utility but
[05:02] <test1-ba-pdgin> during downloding my local repository became biger and biger for about 2 weeks . each time I run the dpkg-scanpackages utility I could install more packages from my local repository until from 3 days ago after running it (dpkg-scanpackages) and then "apt-get update" the "apt-get install  ...." after this tells me: "E: Wow, you exceeded the number of versions this APT is capable of."
[05:04] <test1-ba-pdgin> what is my solution ? is the because of a big repository? but I download only from the main repository of ubuntu: "archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu" and thus it must do good without error as when I connect to this main repository from Internet !!!
[05:06] <sigma_1234> looks like you'll have to undo what you have done
[05:07] <sigma_1234> have you downloaded the entire repository to your computer?
[05:08] <test1-ba-pdgin> sigma_1234, yes
[05:09] <sigma_1234> id say just undo it and try again
[05:09] <Agent_bob> !apt-move
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-move - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <Agent_bob> !info apt-move
[05:10] <ubotu> apt-move: Maintain Debian packages in a package pool. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.2.27-1ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 49 kB, installed size 220 kB
[05:23] <Nyle> hi
[05:23] <Nyle> I am using gusty how can i get kde4?
[05:23] <Nyle> ah nm topic scorlled too high
[05:27] <tlmarker> i have a question about the livecd
[05:29] <Agent_bob> !ask
[05:29] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[05:30] <tlmarker> sorry ubotu. I am having trouble getting KDE4 working by installing is. I downloaded the Kubuntu Live CD with KDE4, and it seemed to work. If I do a fresh install, will everything work as it did off the LiveCD?
[05:30] <andresj> kde4 icons were fixed! :)
[05:31] <Agent_bob> yuch,  apt-move uses three lamguages.(auk sh and perl)   i'm like come on. cant you do this in one lang.... K-rap!
[05:32] <andresj> tlmarker, ubotu is a bot :) and yes, it will probably work as it did in the livecd... or at least good enough (I'm using the kde4 pkgs in a non-fresh install and evthng works nicely)
[05:33] <tlmarker> i think my problems revolve around my nvidia card/drivers. do you think I will have problems with nvidia?
[05:34] <Agent_bob> !nv is pretty well supported.
[05:34] <andresj> tlmarker, kubuntu feisty (and probably gutsy) will ask you to install propietatry drivers
[05:35] <el_taco> is anyone else having problems with flash locking up firefox?
[05:35] <andresj> so that you can enjoy thenice expose, transparency, etc in kde4. (explore Ctrl-F8 to 10 and Ctrl-F12 in kde4 :))
[05:37] <nibbe> How do I open a .bin file? (realplayer installation). ./RealPlayer10GOLD-Linux.bin doesn't work "command not found"
[05:37] <Agent_bob> bash ./RealPlayer10GOLD-Linux.bin
[05:37] <nibbe> cannot execute binary file
[05:38] <Agent_bob> the reason you are getting the "command not found" error is because it's not executable.
[05:38] <Agent_bob> ah and it's a binary   so chmod it and run it
[05:38] <nibbe> chmod?
[05:38] <Agent_bob> yep
[05:38] <Agent_bob> man chmod if you need to
[05:38] <nibbe> what is chmod?
[05:39] <Jucato> "CHange MODe"
[05:39] <Agent_bob> man chmod
[05:39] <Agent_bob> next Q is probably what is man....
[05:39]  * Jucato resists the urge to answer that :)
[05:39] <Agent_bob> :)
[05:40] <nibbe> totally new to linux .-P
[05:40] <Agent_bob> i still think that all linux installers should first dump you into    man man    before it does anything else.  so you would at least have see a man page before installing.
[05:41] <nibbe> but the last time i installer realplayer i only had do to ./RealPlayer10GOLD-Linux.bin
[05:41] <Agent_bob> i doubt that.     you just don't remember chmod'ing it.
[05:42] <Agent_bob> probably did it through konq
[05:42] <nibbe> so I can do it through Konq? how?
[05:42] <Agent_bob> only exception would be if you dl'd it to a vfat mount and then ran it.
[05:43] <andresj> Agent_bob, if he is doing ./Real....bin "command not found" should not be the error.
[05:43] <Agent_bob> andresj try it with a file that's not executable
[05:43] <andresj> it says "Permission denied"
[05:44] <andresj> command not found appears when you don't put the './' in the beginning...
[05:44] <Agent_bob> ah yes some shells do.    some will return command not found  (dash)
[05:44] <andresj> oh i see... :)
[05:45] <Agent_bob> andresj you do have a valid point though.  bash should have said permission denied  so it's probably in the ./Desktop/ dir rather than ./
[05:46] <Agent_bob> nibbe   1. make it executable.   2. call it with the correct path.
[05:47] <Agent_bob> andresj do note.  "<nibbe> cannot execute binary file"   would assume correct path.
[05:47] <andresj> I like better the process of 1. ``chmod +x myfile.bin`` 2. double click
[05:48] <Jucato> hm... how do you double click in the terminal? :)
[05:48] <andresj> Jucato: you don't, you use Dolphin :)
[05:48] <Agent_bob> why chmod when you can right click    in your example?
[05:48] <andresj> Agent_bob: because it's longer
[05:48] <Jucato> Agent_bob: exactlikey :)
[05:48] <Agent_bob> :)
[05:49] <andresj> I like my Dolphin with the konsole below, so I can take the shortest route possible
[05:49] <Agent_bob> btw calling with the correct path is done by dubble click as well as by /path/to/blah
[05:51] <nibbe> error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:52] <andresj> nibbe, maybe the .bin is faulty, or maybe you need to install 'build-essentials'
[05:52] <nibbe> I got build-essentials
[05:52] <Agent_bob> !info libstdc++5
[05:52] <ubotu> libstdc++5: The GNU Standard C++ Library v3. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.3.6-15ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 289 kB, installed size 848 kB
[05:52] <Agent_bob> !info libstdc++6
[05:52] <ubotu> libstdc++6: The GNU Standard C++ Library v3. In component main, is important. Version 4.2.1-5ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 307 kB, installed size 980 kB
[05:53] <Agent_bob> install at will
[05:54] <Agent_bob> if it needs development libraries   libstdc++5-3.3-dev and libstdc++6-dev are avalable in dapper   you can check your package cache for your release
[05:55] <nibbe> Works now. thanks
[05:56] <Agent_bob> when something like that comes up,  search either by the pointy clicky thingy or cli  apt-cache search *
[05:56] <surgy> im having sound problems, when i try to start a game it is having problems receiving input out put from the sound driver, but my driver is installe dproperly becuase i here the kde sound when my computer logs me in
[05:57] <Agent_bob> can you set the game to use "arts" ?
[05:57] <surgy> ------- sound initialization -------
[05:57] <surgy> /dev/dsp: Input/output error
[05:57] <surgy> Could not mmap /dev/dsp
[05:57] <surgy> ------------------------------------
[05:57] <Agent_bob> if not you'll probably have to kill arts and run your game then restart arts
[05:57] <Demonho-br> hello all
[05:57] <Agent_bob> !info arts
[05:57] <ubotu> arts: sound system from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB
[05:58] <Demonho-br> Im trying to enable the transparancy on my panel.. but when i do it, minimized windows appear without colour.. i cant see these windows right.. what could i do to solv it ?
[05:59] <Agent_bob> surgy also possably "alsa" for it's output.
[05:59] <Demonho-br> i tried custon colours for inactivity windows, but.. if i choose black for example.. it works , but when i put my mouse on these windows everything turn blac
[05:59] <Demonho-br> black*
[06:00] <surgy> Agent_bob: so what should i do? should i disabble alsa and renable it? cuase i just rebooted and it didnt fix it
[06:00] <Agent_bob> surgy of course rebooting didn't fix it.  this is not windows
[06:00] <surgy> Agent_bob: good point
[06:01] <Demonho-br> the window what im using appears with strong colour on the panel.. the mainbar. but i would like to set all window even its not in use to appear with strong colour..
[06:01] <Agent_bob> surgy and yes.  if the game can't be configured to use arts/alsa  then you'll have to kill the kde sound server
[06:01] <surgy> how?
[06:02] <Agent_bob> that's kindof version specific.   kde3* kmenu system settings sound   stop sound server
[06:02] <surgy> im running kubuntu 7.10
[06:02] <Demonho-br> im running kubuntu 7.10
[06:02] <Demonho-br> nobody knows my question ? :(
[06:03] <Agent_bob> Demonho-br not me
[06:03] <Agent_bob> surgy you can always do it the cli way   sudo killall -9 arts
[06:04] <Demonho-br> Agent_bob, =(
[06:04] <surgy> ok sound system is restarting
[06:04] <Agent_bob> of course that won't help you see how to restart it.
[06:04] <surgy> for the third time..... it keeps trying to restart
[06:04] <Agent_bob> you don't want to restart it.  you want to kill it.
[06:05] <Agent_bob> disable it
[06:05] <surgy> arts: no process killed
[06:05] <Agent_bob> yeah it's probably full path   check the process table   i'm not running a gui.
[06:06] <surgy> lol i whould if i knew how, im not new to kubuntu but never had the need for this stuff
[06:06] <Agent_bob> ps ax | less
[06:06] <Agent_bob> pstree
[06:06] <Agent_bob> ksysguard
[06:07] <Agent_bob> many ways.
[06:07] <Demonho-br> to me. nothing
[06:07] <Demonho-br> no way
[06:07] <Demonho-br> =\
[06:08] <surgy> umm nope not there
[06:08] <Agent_bob> no arts in the list...    did kde change it's sound server in kde4 ?
[06:08] <Agent_bob> or is that kde4 ?
[06:09] <surgy> yeah its kde4 and i didnt see arts
[06:09] <Agent_bob> ps ax | grep -v grep | grep arts
[06:09] <knic> when using kde alt+tab is strange, on my other laptop when I use alt+tab it goes to the last window I had focus, on this one it walks through all the windows, example if I used speedchrunch and alt tabed to konqueror a single alt tab should bring me back to speedchrunch, but it doesnt can someone tell me how to fix it
[06:10] <surgy>  5626 ?        S      0:01 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f
[06:11] <Agent_bob> looks to me like it's running.
[06:11] <Jucato> knic: where does it bring you?
[06:11] <Agent_bob> sudo killall -9 /usr/bin/artsd
[06:11] <surgy> ok its dead
[06:12] <Agent_bob> you can restart it when you are ready for it, the way you were restarting it.
[06:12] <Agent_bob> until then enjoy the game.
[06:13] <surgy> nope no sound
[06:13] <surgy> or should i restart arts and then test?
[06:13] <knic> Jucato: it throws all the apps in one giant circle and just traverses them no matter what was the last window I used before the current one
[06:14] <Agent_bob> surgy not if arts is killed.   it should have freed up /dev/dsp
[06:14] <Jucato> knic: um.. using Compiz?
[06:14] <Agent_bob> fuser /dev/dsp    maybe
[06:14] <surgy> Agent_bob: no it still doesnt have sound let me run the game through terminal and see what it outputs about sound
[06:15] <surgy> ------- sound initialization -------
[06:15] <surgy> /dev/dsp: Input/output error
[06:15] <surgy> Could not mmap /dev/dsp
[06:15] <surgy> ------------------------------------
[06:15] <Agent_bob> mmap    hmmm
[06:16] <Thecks> grep cores /proc/cpuinfo
[06:16] <Thecks> gives
[06:16] <Thecks> 2
[06:16] <Thecks> 2
[06:16] <Thecks> That means, 2 CPUs each with 2 cores right?
[06:16] <surgy> nope
[06:16] <surgy> outputs nothing
[06:16] <surgy> i have a single core amd athlon 64 3200
[06:17] <Agent_bob> surgy test this.    cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp      should be white noise   if not the issues is with the sound device..    ctrl+C  to kill it
[06:17] <surgy> yep white noise
[06:17] <Agent_bob> then the issue is with the game.  nothing wrong with your system
[06:17] <surgy> ok
[06:18] <surgy> im thinking a permisions problem, the game doesnt have permission to access the device
[06:18] <Agent_bob> sudo chmod 777 /dev/dsp
[06:19] <surgy> done
[06:19] <Agent_bob>   ^ btw that will not last past a reboot.
[06:19] <surgy> ------- sound initialization -------
[06:19] <surgy> /dev/dsp: Input/output error
[06:19] <surgy> Could not mmap /dev/dsp
[06:19] <surgy> ------------------------------------
[06:19] <surgy> same problem
[06:19] <surgy> let me reinstall
[06:19] <Agent_bob> yeah the game is hosed.
[06:20] <Agent_bob> game may be looking for "mmap" that it doesn't provide.   idk i'm not a C monkey
[06:21] <surgy> reinstalled still no sound
[06:22] <surgy> oh well ill look it up
[06:25] <knic> Jucato: no I am just using synergy
[06:25] <knic> Jucato: I meant I am just using kwin
[06:28] <surgy> Agent_bob: fixed it with this command: echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[06:28] <Agent_bob> ah using the oss driver.  of course
[06:29]  * Agent_bob slaps fore head
[06:29] <surgy> lol
[06:29] <surgy> works now, thnx for your efforts
[06:29] <Agent_bob> welcome.
[06:30] <fizzz> need help installing firefox in linux
[06:30] <Agent_bob> surgy you should probably file a bug report with the game on that.   they will fix it if enough people complain about it.
[06:30] <andresj> fizzz, ``apt-get install firefox``
[06:30] <Agent_bob> sudo that even ^
[06:31] <fizzz> ok what should i type when that gets done
[06:31] <Agent_bob> nothing
[06:32] <Agent_bob> it should add an itom in kmenu networking
[06:32] <fizzz> sweet
[06:33] <Agent_bob> !adept | fizzz
[06:33] <ubotu> fizzz: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[06:33] <fizzz> hey guys any way to boot my xp from inside my linux ?
[06:33] <jussi01> !vmware
[06:33] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:33] <Agent_bob> vmware qemu and something else.....
[06:34] <Agent_bob> i don't recall the other
[06:34] <fizzz> any free ones
[06:35] <bazhang> fizzz: virtualbox
[06:35] <Agent_bob> vertualbox that's the other.
[06:35] <bazhang> #vbox
[06:35] <Agent_bob> and all three are free to some lesser degree
[06:36] <bazhang> xen or zen forget the spelling
[06:36] <Agent_bob> xen
[06:36] <bazhang> right
[06:39] <Agent_bob> i've half a mind (would be a shame to stop there) to update this system.   even by my standards the system is starting to get old...
[06:43] <se7en__> does someone else have problems (like not work at all) with dolphin kde4 and samba or is it only me?
[06:45] <jussi01> se7en__: #kubuntu-kde4 ...
[06:48]  * Agent_bob ! C monkey &&\
[06:48]  * Agent_bob shell ape
[06:49] <Tm_T> !ping
[06:49] <ubotu> pong
[06:51] <jussi01> morning Tm_T
[06:51] <Tm_T> good morning
[06:52] <Hirvinen_> Good morning.
[06:54] <Agent_bob> does mv use hard links by default ?
[06:55] <ubuntu> hello all.. i want ubuntu on a usb drive... is there a version out there  like puppy or dsl?
[06:55] <Tm_T> Agent_bob: no, it's move
[06:55] <dhq> i have a 0b:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection (rev 61)    it doesnt work on linux
[06:55] <Agent_bob> Tm_T yes. and it doesn't use hardly any io if it's on the same fs   so is it making a hardlink and then rm'ing the origenal ?
[06:56] <Tm_T> Agent_bob: IIRC it just change "link", no rm involved
[06:56] <Tm_T> Agent_bob: but you might like to consult ##linux in this matter
[06:56] <Agent_bob> hmmmm.
[06:57] <Agent_bob> yeah.  thanks.
[06:57] <Tm_T> np
[06:57] <Tm_T> sorry I don't know anything for sure about that
[06:58] <ubun2> is there a version of ubuntu that boots from usb?
[06:58] <Agent_bob> !wifi | dhq been here ?
[06:58] <ubotu> dhq been here ?: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:58] <ubun2> like puppy/dsl
[06:58] <jussi01> !install | ubun2
[06:58] <ubotu> ubun2: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[06:59] <ubun2> thanks ubotu... u da best
[06:59] <Tm_T> ubun2: u da ?
[07:00] <Agent_bob> :)
[07:00] <Agent_bob> i understand   u da
[07:00] <Tm_T> !english
[07:00] <dhq> Agent_bob: my internet doesnt load pages where as all torrents adept irc etc work but i cant load any pages any idea why
[07:00] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[07:01] <Agent_bob> dhq  ummm /etc/resolv.conf maybe
[07:01] <dhq> Agent_bob: i have the dsn loaded ok
[07:02] <Agent_bob> ahq and i'm not the guy to ask about network issues.  but i have seen that problem in here many times.  there is surely a wiki on it
[07:13] <Agent_bob> note at ubotu, that link http://tinyurl.com/3exghs  says "sudo chmod `whoami`:`whoami`"  <<< which must either be a syntax error or a foolishness.
[07:14] <Tm_T> Agent_bob: hm?
[07:14] <blizzzek> hi
[07:17] <Agent_bob> Tm_T the instructions for booting an install iso from a linux installation in the ubotu call "!install"  has an obvious error,  namely  " sudo chmod `whoami`:`whoami` "
[07:17] <Tm_T> mmmh
[07:18] <Tm_T> Agent_bob: it should be "ok"
[07:18] <Tm_T> Agent_bob: what's the problem in it?
[07:18] <Agent_bob> the command is a do nothing command.
[07:18] <Agent_bob> same as   :
[07:18] <Agent_bob> except it returns an error and  :  doesn't
[07:19] <Tm_T> mmm
[07:19] <Tm_T> meh
[07:19] <Agent_bob> the windows portion of that instructions should probably work with most distros   i'm not sure about ubuntu tho
[07:20] <Agent_bob> not sure that the live iso will prompt for the path if it's not on a cd
[07:23] <Agent_bob> and the spelling nazi corrects a good post on that thread too    oh well.
[07:23] <Tm_T> Agent_bob: whatta?
[07:24] <Agent_bob> nothing, nothing,   ignore me.   i'm just babling
[07:25] <Tm_T> !ot | Agent_bob
[07:25] <ubotu> Agent_bob: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:25] <Tm_T> Agent_bob: ;)
[07:26] <Tm_T> Agent_bob: sorry but I can't ignore, can I hug you instead?
[07:28] <Agent_bob> :)
[07:30] <phimic> hi all
[07:31] <phimic> i use kubutu gusty and want like to upgrade my kde 3.5.8 to kde4
[07:31] <phimic> ist there a good howto
[07:31] <Agent_bob> !kde4
[07:31] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[07:33] <Tm_T> phimic: you won't upgrade to, you will use them side by side
[07:33] <Tm_T> phimic: more on links in that factoid and in topic
[07:34] <phimic> Tm_T: what means side-by-side? i dont want left a old kde installed
[07:35] <Tm_T> phimic: you do
[07:35] <phimic> Tm_T: so no workaround to upgrade to kde4
[07:35] <dak> whats with kde4base-data ?
[07:35] <Tm_T> phimic: anyway, install KDE4, use it a while, then remove what you don't need, whetever its KDE4 or some else
[07:35] <dak> just behind ?
[07:36] <Tm_T> phimic: there is, just install new and remove old, but, use them together first, to be sure you want it to be removed
[07:37] <phimic> Tm_T: ok thanks, did u checkout kde4?
[07:37] <Tm_T> phimic: whois me
[07:38] <phimic> Tm_T: :)
[07:47] <MaskedOne> Yay finally resolved all my Kubuntu 7.10 problems :D
[07:47] <Tm_T> Agent_bob: root?
[07:48] <MaskedOne> Any interesting problems here tonight?
[07:48] <miegamice> MaskedOne: I cannot mount my hdd, with winxp on it
[07:48] <Tm_T> MaskedOne: yes, my feets are cold
[07:50] <Agent_bob> miegamice pastebin the output of#    sudo fdisk -l ;mount ;cat /etc/fstab
[07:50] <MaskedOne> lol Tm_T
[07:51] <MaskedOne> miegamice: Can you see your WinXP HD listed in Konqueror?
[07:51] <MaskedOne> or does Linux not see it at all?
[07:52] <miegamice> MaskedOne: I'm not connected my hdd now...
[07:52] <miegamice> I need to go to school now...
[07:52] <MaskedOne> ah ok
[07:53] <Agent_bob> oh he was just babling...
[07:53] <dak> anyone know url that shows world wide repositorys ?
[07:53] <MaskedOne> lol ok
[07:53] <Agent_bob> as Tm_T says   !ot | miegamice
[07:53] <MaskedOne> nope not a clue dak
[07:55] <dak> wish it was like deb just on the main page
[08:01] <Agent_bob> what is /var/log/wtmp for ?
[08:05] <Agent_bob> and it seems just a little bit odd having a system that doesn't show a runlevel nor anyone logged in...
[08:08] <Lynoure> Agent_bob: hmm? Does not show a runlevel?  What does  runlevel  tell you then?
[08:08] <Agent_bob> hmmm and if i do  apt-get remove login   it wants to install  libssl0.9.7
[08:08] <Agent_bob> Lynoure runlevel tells me nothing     runlevel
[08:08] <Agent_bob> unknown
[08:09] <Lynoure> Agent_bob: you have some deeply customized Kubuntu installation? :)
[08:09] <Agent_bob> yes i already know that.
[08:09] <Lynoure> I did not, that's why I asked.
[08:09] <Agent_bob> i wrote the sysv init system.
[08:09] <fizzz> anybody know what i need to unrar stuff in linux >
[08:09] <fizzz> >?
[08:10] <Agent_bob> i'm actually in runlevel nine right now.
[08:10] <Agent_bob> !rar
[08:10] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:11] <Agent_bob> !info unrar-free | fizzz
[08:11] <ubotu> fizzz: unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20070515-1 (gutsy), package size 40 kB, installed size 124 kB
[08:11] <fizzz> yall got the apt get link for htat ??
[08:12] <Agent_bob> :)    sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[08:12] <Agent_bob> can i also set it up for you ?
[08:12] <vge> you need also to open a konsole!
[08:12] <vzduch> I'm looking for clues as to why my SAM4 won't connect to my local MySQL server when I start it in wine
[08:13] <fizzz> thankz bob
[08:13] <Agent_bob> np fizzz
[08:13] <Agent_bob> vzduch wine is tricky that way.     or in other words i have no clue.
[08:15] <Agent_bob> but one issue could be the differance in \/ win -vs- linux     idk.
[08:17] <buz> i'm having issues with my dvd burner on gutsy. it used to burn 16x just fine (on the same media i'm using now) but now it fluctuates between 2 and 8x all the time
[08:17] <Agent_bob> ERROR   Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Packages
[08:17] <Agent_bob>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[08:18] <Agent_bob> from apt-get update    seems an dapper package database is hosed
[08:20] <Agent_bob> heavy io traffic buz ?
[08:21] <ardchoille> Agent_bob: That sources line doesn't look right to me. Would you mind pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[08:21] <ardchoille> !paste | Agent_bob
[08:21] <ubotu> Agent_bob: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:23] <Agent_bob> ardchoille it's not the source.  i rm'd the partial and reran apt-get update    it wourked ok    i guess that i just caught the server at a bad time and only got a partial file
[08:23] <Agent_bob> i can still pastebin my sources.list if you want
[08:24] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d55ffac2e
[08:24] <ardchoille> Agent_bob: Nah, if you fixed it, then it's fine :)
[08:25] <Agent_bob> yeah i got it working.   but changed nothing on my end.   so it had to be a server hic-up
[08:25] <ardchoille> Yeah, that happens now and then
[08:25] <Montyous_> why linux is more famous than bsd as a server os, despite bsd is more secure and stable that linux?
[08:26] <Tm_T> Montyous_: sure?
[08:26] <Montyous_> ya
[08:26] <Tm_T> Montyous_: ok
[08:26] <Montyous_> so?
[08:27] <Tm_T> Montyous_: sorry, but this is Kubuntu support channel :)
[08:27] <Tm_T> if you have any support questions at hand, we are glad to help
[08:27] <Montyous_> kubuntu is based on linux
[08:27] <Tm_T> yes
[08:28] <Agent_bob> kubuntu is a GNU/Linux distrobution
[08:28] <Montyous_> ya
[08:28] <Tm_T> Agent_bob: thanks, I'll have her
[08:28] <Agent_bob> linux is the kernel  the rest is GNU
[08:28] <Montyous_> then my question is relavent
[08:28] <Tm_T> Montyous_: yes, but it isn't support question ;)
[08:29] <ardchoille> Montyous_: That's not really a support question. How does the answer to that question fix an issue on your system?
[08:29] <Montyous_> ic
[08:29] <Jucato> Montyous_: this channel is for Kubuntu support questions. questions about how to run Kubuntu, how to manage your Kubuntu system etc. Not about Linux vs BSD
[08:29] <Tm_T> Montyous_: nor you have stated relevant question either, anyway, glad if we can be your pleasure
[08:29] <Lynoure> Montyous_: I bet that if you go to a bsd chat (non-support) channel, they'll give you plenty of answers :)
[08:30] <Lynoure> Montyous_: but I have a hutch you just came from one?
[08:30] <Agent_bob> why is windows more popular than linux  might be a valid linux question  but it is not a support question.
[08:30] <Tm_T> Agent_bob: not even that
[08:30] <Tm_T> anyway
[08:30] <Montyous_> :)
[08:30] <Jucato> Lynoure: "hunch" :)
[08:31] <Lynoure> Jucato: something =)
[08:31] <Tm_T> !ot
[08:31] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:31]  * Agent_bob stops being so liberal with the definition of valid now.
[08:31] <Montyous_> Lynoure Tm_T Jucato ardchoille -  what do you think about mac osx.. ?
[08:31] <Tm_T> Montyous_: that isn't support question either
[08:32] <ardchoille> Montyous_: Perhaps you need to join #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:32] <Montyous_> ic.. if you wana guide me. you can pvt me
[08:32] <Montyous_> ardchoille ok
[08:35] <Montyous_> iam ther
[08:36]  * Agent_bob thought all pm from non-registered users was blocked,  maybe there is something about /msg self that i don't know.
[08:39] <Roy_M> Hi, I have a number of  disks attached to my system, hda, hdb and hdc. what commands can I use to get stats on them, eg disksize, to help me identify them.
[08:39] <ardchoille> !pm | |Quest|
[08:39] <ubotu> |Quest|: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[08:39] <|Quest|> ic
[08:39] <|Quest|> ardchoille where can i find this ! command files?
[08:40] <Hobbsee> !help
[08:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:40] <Agent_bob> Roy_M i'm lagging pretty bad so my responce will be slow.    sudo fdisk -l    or   cat /proc/partitions    and the gui has some tools as well
[08:41] <Jucato> Roy_M: if they are mounted, you can use "df -h" to check. if not mounted, I think the Disks & Filesystems in System Settings Advanced tab gives the disk space too
[08:41] <Jucato> (can't be sure)
[08:42] <Agent_bob> Jucato df will give fs size  not disk size   unless you format whole disks   (i'm probably the only one that does that)
[08:42] <Jucato> oh yeah.. right...
[08:43] <Roy_M> thanks Agent_bob and Jucato
[08:44] <Agent_bob> Roy_M along with Jucato's "Disks & Filesystems"  qtparted/gparted    would also be a gui tool that could do that.
[08:45] <Agent_bob> there are probably others too
[08:46] <Roy_M> Agent_bob: Sure, giving qtparted a go becuase gparted never finishes "scanning disks"
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[08:47] <Agent_bob> Roy_M hmmm then qtparted may not either.   they are both frontends to parted  afik
[08:47] <Roy_M> yeah thats what i thought  but qtparted has detected my disks and seems fine :/
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> wassup guys?
[08:48] <Agent_bob> k  good.    Roy_M fdisk is on almost all linux installs  so the cli way    sudo fdisk -l     is a quick lister  ;/
[08:49] <Agent_bob> handy to remember it.  with or with out the sudo...
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> without to list only
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> with to make changes
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> i think you have to use fdisk -x to play with partitions
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> -x = extended mode
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> real quick question guys. Is anyone running kde4?
[08:51] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: quick answer, yes
[08:51] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip some system have default permissions set so that without sudo fdisk wont list anything
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T, is it worth getting?
[08:51] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: for some it is, for some it aint
[08:52] <Agent_bob> sudo fdisk -l | grep Disk     # ta da
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T, ok, to you personally
[08:52] <Tm_T> it's ok, but only in side of KDE3 on my use, though, I'm not "an average joe"
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T, I'm very average joe. My system = aMSN / Firefox / OpenOffice
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T, and Amarok
[08:53] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: then its fine, at most
[08:53] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: try and see
[08:53] <Tm_T> jono <3
[08:54] <jono> hey Tm_T
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T, yeah its my next project when i get the inclination
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T, when i get in from work I cant be bothered with PCs as I'm on them all day
[08:55]  * Tm_T isn't with pcs, they're just tools (for work and fun)
[08:55] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: anyway, perhaps #kubuntu-offtopic suits better for this kind of conversation
[08:56]  * Agent_bob abuses computers all day
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T, nar its pretty much done :) cheers man
[08:56] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: :)
[09:04] <Agent_bob> off topic shouldn't be off topic when nothing happens for ten minutes...
[09:08]  * ActionParsnip agrees
[09:09] <slanier> does anyone know how to make my USB headset my primary sound device?
[09:09] <slanier> I tried to do it in Kmixer, it recognizes it but doesent seem to work
[09:10] <patrick_> Hallo! I have a folder with 300 jpgs. They should all be converted black and white. Is there a automatic way. (opening everyone in gimp is quite timeconsuming ;) ). Does anyone have a good suggestion?
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> !convert | patrick
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about convert - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> patrick_, http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_convert.htm
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> patrick_, convert is the way
[09:11] <Jucato> convert is from imagemagick (iirc)
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> patrick_, convert -monochrome *.jpg
[09:12] <intelikey> there is a tool.   i can't think of the mane of it right now.     an convert may be.   but that's not the one i had in mind.
[09:13] <intelikey> ActionParsnip if the command line arg is not too long that way.   may need to    for Q in *.jpg ;do convert -monochrome "$Q" ;done
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> slanier, usb headset? Doesnt it just plug into your soundcards output?
[09:13] <slanier> no
[09:14] <slanier> a usb headset, has its own sound card built in
[09:14] <slanier> skype headset
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, I've always just wildcarded :)
[09:14] <patrick_> thanks for the input, I'll give it a try
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> slanier, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-311473.html
[09:15] <intelikey> ActionParsnip yeah   but if there are enough files in one dir you may run into command line arg lingth limits on some apps.
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> slanier, did you google an answer yourself before asking?
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, I don't understand
[09:15] <slanier> ahh thank you very much :D
[09:15] <slanier> hopefully this works
[09:16] <intelikey> ActionParsnip in simple terms if there are too many files only the first X many will be affected. and the rest ignored.   using a loop will solve that
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, why is there a limit? Does the * get replaced with the file list on the command line, then executed?
[09:17] <slanier> okay this is a guide on how to get it to work with skype...hes the thing, the headset will work with skype..I just cant get it to work anywhere else. It defaults to system speakers
[09:17] <slanier> and i dont know how to change that
[09:17] <intelikey> yes
[09:17] <intelikey> ActionParsnip it's the shell that expands the wildcard
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, i see, cheers for the info dude
[09:18] <intelikey> anytime
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> slanier, you may need to change the config in your apps
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> slanier, or do you want the usb to be your systemwide sound device all the time
[09:19] <slanier> well it would be nice to be able to switch back and forth...but knowing how to switch it would be nice
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> slanier, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283350
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> slanier, check the 2nd post. could be a good clue http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=667470
[09:21] <slanier> ahh once again, thank you. I should probably sign up for the ubuntu forums...been using the kubuntu forums and that place is a graveyard :p
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> slanier, np man
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> easiest way is to get a standard headset. when yo want to use speakers, pull out the headphones
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2006/06/sennheiserm1451.jpg What is the point :(
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> How can I find out my default sound device?
[09:42] <intelikey> ActionParsnip maybe cat /proc/asound/cards   ?
[09:42] <intelikey> not sure if that will like the default or not.  i only have one.
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, cheers man :) i'llhave a play
[09:45] <intelikey> ActionParsnip there are several files in /proc/asound you might look around there    also    alsactl   and alsamixer    are useful tools.
[09:46] <intelikey> asoundconf too
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> i'll see what i can find :)
[09:49] <intelikey> !midi
[09:49] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[09:51] <dhq_> hi
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> yeaj asoundconf-gtk lets you switch between sound cards
[09:51] <ibou> hi
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> hi dhq
[09:53] <ibou> how to download an old package like the old version of flash ?
[09:55] <intelikey> !flash
[09:55] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:55] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[09:56] <intelikey> i have installed both fluidmidi and timidi++  but i still get  playmidi: No playback device found.
[09:56] <dhq_> hello
[09:56] <intelikey> */TiMidity++
[09:58] <dhq_> i hav airtel edge usb modem how can i connect in kubuntu
[09:58] <dhq_> plz help me
[09:58] <dhq_> plz any one givme setting
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> dhq_, have you searched for an answer yourself?
[10:00] <dhq_> ya but i cant
[10:01] <dhq_> ActionParsnip: plz help me i hav to connect that airtel usb modem in kubuntu
[10:01] <intelikey> sudo wvdialconf     see if it finds the modem
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> dhq_, try http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-257127.html. You SHOULD google for an answer yourself first before asking. I googled that in 10 seconds
[10:05] <intelikey> ah i have midi play back now.      tov!
[10:06] <djdarkman> hello, what`s the problem with compiz fusion in kubunti? i don`t see icons in compiz config and there are very strange default settings
[10:07] <ibou> why to use compiz :p
[10:08] <Tm_T> ibou: why not?
[10:08] <Enok> Baceuse it makes windows users jealous
[10:08] <djdarkman> but why is the ubuntu version of compiz is so defective?
[10:08] <Tm_T> Enok: well that wasn't good reason ;)
[10:08]  * ActionParsnip is happy with kwin :)
[10:09]  * Tm_T is more than happy with kwin
[10:09] <Tm_T> djdarkman: anyway, no idea about cf
[10:09] <Tm_T> !compiz
[10:09] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[10:09] <djdarkman> why not use compiz if it makes use of my videocards abilities wich I normally don`y use
[10:10] <ibou> lol i was joking
[10:10] <Tm_T> djdarkman: if it doesn't bring good enough when it does reduce it, like in my case
[10:10] <parkin> !inkscape
[10:10] <Tm_T> but thats matter of needs
[10:10] <ibou> but i lose the sides of my windows when i use it
[10:10] <ubotu> Inkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> djdarkman, http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DUSn-jBA3CE
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> dual monitor compiz-fusion looks pretty sweet
[10:41] <dhq__> hello
[10:42] <dhq__> appelza: hi
[10:43] <dhq__> appelza: plz help me
[10:43] <juan> !ask
[10:43] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[10:43] <appelza> just ask, but hi
[10:43] <dhq__> i hav airtel usb modem how can i connect in kubuntu
[10:44] <juan> ive written a single command into a file to be run as kdm starts by putting it in ~/.kde/Autostart and setting it to plus x but it doesnt run
[10:44] <juan> do i need to add something to the start of a file to tell kde its a script
[10:44] <dhq__> hi
[10:45] <dhq__> CONFIG_PPP=y
[10:45] <dhq__>  CONFIG_PPP_ASYNC=y
[10:45] <dhq__>  CONFIG_PPP_SYNC_TTY=m
[10:45] <dhq__>  CONFIG_PPP_DEFLATE=m
[10:45] <dhq__>  CONFIG_PPP_BSDCOMP=m
[10:45] <dhq__>  CONFIG_PPP_MPPE=m
[10:46] <dhq__> hello
[10:46] <dhq__> CONFIG_PPP=y
[10:46] <dhq__>  CONFIG_PPP_ASYNC=y
[10:46] <dhq__>  CONFIG_PPP_SYNC_TTY=m
[10:46] <dhq__>  CONFIG_PPP_DEFLATE=m
[10:46] <dhq__>  CONFIG_PPP_BSDCOMP=m
[10:46] <dhq__>  CONFIG_PPP_MPPE=m
[10:47] <juan> !pastbin
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <juan> !pastebin
[10:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:48] <dhq__> appelza: i try this command but my modem is stil not woking wvdialconf create
[10:49] <jussi01> juan: #! /bin/bash iirc
[10:49] <jussi01> (not the iirc of course )
[10:50] <dhq__> appelza: plz help me
[10:51] <jussi01> !pm
[10:51] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[10:51] <appelza> dhq_ why me?
[10:51] <appelza> ask everyone, I don't even know you? ;p
[10:51] <appelza> and I dont know wvdialconf, so sorry I cant help you anyway
[10:52] <DreadKnight> i think that juk player is embarasing kde; anyone else sharing the same opinion?
[10:52] <DreadKnight> >_<
[10:52] <juan> juk?
[10:52] <juan> !ot
[10:52] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:53] <DreadKnight> ok thanks :D
[10:55] <dhq__> any one help me plz
[10:57] <Karppa> ;;
[10:57] <Karppa> :D
[10:59] <noaXess> can i make i live image from my running system with dd?
[10:59] <ibou> re
[11:00] <stf> Hi. I installed libusplash-dev. I make installed the provided example theme "eft-theme". Then I ran the following commands: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52025/ ; Then I rebooted with "quiet splash vga=791" and the boot process was a black screen. What did I forget to do?
[11:05] <x_zeuss> hi, i have a problem with the kubuntu kde 4 live cd, it only loads the hdd icon and after i get a black screen with inly the mouse, the cd was burned corectelly. any ideeas?
[11:05] <martijn81> anyone i favor to help me out with writing to an ogg vorbis player?
[11:05] <stf> -> #kubuntu-kde4
[11:06] <stf> ask :)
[11:06] <x_zeuss> ok, 10x
[11:08] <martijn81> the problem is that somehow mv can write with sudo but "cp --parents ./bla /media/audio/." does not work??\
[11:08] <krwlng> şş
[11:09] <krwlng> türk varmı türk
[11:09] <krwlng> yardıma ihtiyacım var
[11:09] <jose> #kubuntu fr
[11:09] <stf> krwlng: english only. also, linkin park fans are not welcome
[11:09] <stf> :D
[11:09] <stf> !en
[11:09] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:10] <jose> why linkin park fans are not welcom?
[11:10] <krwlng> :)
[11:10] <krwlng> ok sorry
[11:12] <martijn81> hmmm, got it working now, the auto mount feature seems to fix this instead of manual mounting it, weird but true
[11:18] <ubuntu_> hi all
[11:18] <nuxil> hi
[11:18] <ubuntu_> :)
[11:18] <ubuntu_> i have kubuntu now on my pc
[11:18] <ubuntu_> what is so good that it is better than windows
[11:19] <nuxil> its free and open source
[11:19] <ubuntu_> i dont like the theme but it is faster
[11:19] <ubuntu_> can you play games on it
[11:19] <ubuntu_> :) like call of duty 4
[11:19] <SlimeyPe1e> the main advantages are that it's free (in both senses), you can get lots of free apps for it, and it's got a proper package manager
[11:19] <ubuntu_> or something like that
[11:20] <nuxil> you dont have to buy antivirus anymore :)
[11:20] <nuxil> ubuntu_, maybe with wine if you got a good high end pc
[11:20] <ubuntu_> thats great , ps i didnt buyt that
[11:20] <SlimeyPe1e> You can use Wine to play Windows games, ubuntu_, but it doesn't always work.
[11:20] <ubuntu_> ow ok
[11:20] <grul> ubuntu_, some games work perfectly, some work so-so, and some don't work at all.
[11:20] <ubuntu_> :)
[11:20] <apparle> how to install KDE 4
[11:20] <ubuntu_> ok
[11:20] <ubuntu_> just download
[11:20] <stf> apparle: -> #kubuntu-kde4
[11:21] <ubuntu_> en burn it
[11:21] <SlimeyPe1e> Some games (Quake series, UT series, NWN) have Linux clients available
[11:21] <ubuntu_> :) i like this irc
[11:21] <nuxil> to tell me you switched to linux to play games
[11:21] <DreadKnight> xD
[11:21] <apparle> stf: I want offline installation from a USB drive or CD
[11:21] <ubuntu_> no not really just, i want to try it
[11:21] <ubuntu_> :)
[11:22] <apparle> stf: which packages to download
[11:22] <ubuntu_> it is a lot faster and if you can run games on it i dont need windows anymore
[11:22] <ubuntu_> why does unbuntu haves games and kubuntu not?
[11:23] <grul> ubuntu_, it says on the wine website that call of duty 4 works
[11:23] <ubuntu_> thanks
[11:23] <ubuntu_> :)
[11:23] <apparle> how to install KDE 4. I don't have net on the kubuntu PC. Which packages to download
[11:23] <grul> ubuntu_, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=10429
[11:23] <SlimeyPe1e> ubuntu_: ubuntu and kubuntu are basically the same, they just look different and have different apps installed by default.
[11:23] <nuxil> !kde4 | apparle
[11:23] <ubotu> apparle: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[11:23] <SlimeyPe1e> ubuntu_: everything which works on kubuntu also works on ubuntu
[11:24] <ubuntu_> k
[11:24] <ubuntu_> but are the games with the install?
[11:24] <ubuntu_> i run it now from the dvd
[11:24] <nuxil> ubuntu_, only diff from kubuntu and ubuntu is the desktop same goes for the rest of Xubunuts
[11:25] <ubuntu_> nice
[11:25] <ubuntu_> :)
[11:25] <SlimeyPe1e> ubuntu_: for commercial games you need the game CD. Some basic free games are included in the install - stuff like Solitaire and so forth.
[11:26] <ubuntu_> and can you run deamon tools on kubuntu?
[11:26] <nuxil> you dont need tp
[11:26] <stf> ubuntu_: no, but Linux has this functionality built-in
[11:26] <ubuntu_> oke :)
[11:26] <ubuntu_> its great to have this on notebook
[11:28] <SlimeyPe1e> ubuntu_: check out Adept (K -> System -> Adept Package Manager). It will give you a list of things which you can install. You can use Adept to download & install them automatically.
[11:28] <ubuntu_> ok thx
[11:28] <Adder---> Hi all
[11:28] <ubuntu_> hi
[11:29] <Adder---> Could anybody tell me how can I change the bootsplash?
[11:29] <ubuntu_> i thought it was put file in theme folder
[11:29] <stf> Adder---: that's exactly what I'm trying to do. Here's what I did:
[11:29] <stf> I installed libusplash-dev. I make installed the provided example theme "eft-theme". Then I ran the following commands: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52025/ ; Then I rebooted with "quiet splash vga=791".
[11:29] <stf> it didn't work though...
[11:29] <ubuntu_> You can try google
[11:30] <Adder---> =<
[11:30] <ubuntu_> :)
[11:30] <Adder---> ubuntu,  yes I will check forums
[11:30] <juan> ive heard ubuntus spash program sucks thers a better alternative, i saw it on forums and run in CL anyway so i cant rember much
[11:30] <lillobyte91> salve a tutti
[11:30] <stf> juan: you mean splashy?
[11:31] <stf> couldn't get that to work either...
[11:31] <lillobyte91> italiani in questo canale?
[11:31] <stf> !it
[11:31] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:31] <Adder---> there is a slash program? o_O
[11:31] <juan> stf: probably
[11:32] <juan> can a i run a login script with root previlages?
[11:41] <appelza> why does for i in "One Two Three"... give me a different result than: for i in `echo "One Two Three"`... ?
[11:42] <juan> how can i put permisions on a device that doesnt exist at book time?
[11:50] <SSJ_GZ> appelza: echo "one two three" strips off the quotes.
[11:51] <SSJ_GZ> appelza: e.g. it's for i in "One Two Three" vs for i in One Two Three
[11:52] <appelza> cool
[11:52] <appelza> thanks, got it :D
[11:52] <Brujah> moin
[11:53] <Brujah> I encounter problems with strigi and kerry. they do not find the files I am looking for. But I am sure they exist
[11:53] <Brujah> Is there a way to get the old search funktion back? the one that uses find/grep?
[11:57] <stf> Brujah: are you looking for kfind?
[11:57] <Brujah> hmm. maybe. checking
[11:59] <basse> hi, i'm trying out kde4 packages in gutsy.. and wondering how does one switch to root-mode in configuration application?
[11:59] <Brujah> thanx. thats what I have been looking for.
[11:59] <stf> basse: -> #kubuntu-kde4 but I don't think it's possible. I think you need to run the whole systemsettings as root currently.
[12:00] <stf> Guys, I installed libusplash-dev. I make installed the example splash "eft-theme". I ran the following commands: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52025/ and I rebooted with "quiet splash vga=791".  What did I forget to do?
[12:01] <basse> stf: but how do you do that?
[12:01] <stf> basse: kdesu4 systemsettings
[12:05] <nuxil> to merge to partition together i need  to setup lvm ?
[12:05] <nuxil> i want hda5 and hdb1 so be seen as one disk
[12:05] <nuxil> !lvm
[12:06] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[12:15] <lunitik> Hello, is the KDE4 livecd installable?
[12:16] <lunitik> If so, does it automatically configure the apt repo as is directed on the KDE4 announcement on the homepage?
[12:16] <lunitik> (kubuntu.org/com/etc)
[12:16] <stf> Bleehhh... after many hours wasted, I got usplash to work. Turns out there's an "usplash" package that libusplash DOESNT depend on. sheesh...
[12:17] <stf> lunitik: dunno, ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[12:24] <clemens> hallo
[12:24] <FaiDillinGer> hi everyone, i am looking the best IDE available to start an xhtml/css project? has anyone any suggestions ?
[12:24] <clemens> what is kubuntu??
[12:24] <stf> FaiDillinGer: you don't need no ide.  Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild, jussi01 or ardchoille!
[12:26] <stf> FaiDillinGer: quanta plus
[12:27] <stf> Jucato to the rescue!
[12:27] <stf> :D
[12:27] <FaiDillinGer> ok stf thx ill look for it
[12:27] <FaiDillinGer> thx Jucato !!!
[12:27] <Jucato> er...
[12:27] <stf> FaiDillinGer: also kompozer.
[12:27] <Sbucatone> xD
[12:27] <Sbucatone> omg
[12:28] <juan> !kdm
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <FaiDillinGer> stf thx i just got kompozer, and i thinkit will suit very well my needs
[12:29] <juan> how do i restart kdm or atleast a comand to logout(bonus points if it logs me back in)
[12:30] <Jucato> juan: what seems to be the problem?
[12:31] <juan> no problem im writing a script that mounts a truecrypt container over my home so i need to logout automatically
[12:32] <Jucato> oh... hm... there's a dcop command to logout I think.. but I can't remember it. you might want to try asking in #kde too
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[12:35] <ubunturos> hey hi ActionParsnip
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> bit quiet today?
[12:42] <Karppa> =D
[12:42] <Karppa> hello
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> hi Karppa
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> !hello | Karppa
[12:43] <ubotu> Karppa: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:43] <Karppa> :)
[12:44] <Karppa> how are you
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Karppa, not bad man. Your Linux install all ok?
[12:44] <Karppa> yep all ok
[12:44] <Karppa> by accident I joined this channel
[12:44] <Karppa> =D
[12:45] <Karppa> fun to talk with someone else than finnish people all the time
[12:50]  * Wizard yawns
[12:50] <Wizard> ok, anybody uses kubuntu on ppc ?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Wizard, power pc or portable pc?
[12:52] <Wizard> powerpc
[12:52] <Jucato> since when did ppc = portable pc? :D
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> i read it some place
[12:53] <Wizard> since never
[12:53] <Wizard> ;)
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> ive read it. its a simple clarification
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> i dont have any ppc rigs
[12:54] <Jucato> maybe you read PocketPC.. but that's never ppc :)
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> all amd64 running i386 kubuntu
[12:55] <Jucato> !ppc
[12:55] <Wizard> i'm looking for some good article on system tweaking :)
[12:55] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[13:00] <juan> ooo some1 talking about PPC? does the ubuntu kernel have hotplugability goodness in it?
[13:01] <Jucato> Ubuntu no longer officially supports PPC
[13:01] <juan> :'( dreams of 100% uptime even in case of cpu failure are dashed
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> juan, you can get motherboards with hot swap cpus now I believe
[13:08] <juan> :) now if only i had money
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> juan, amen to that brother
[13:16] <Chin1> need help please
[13:16] <Chin1> any 1 here?
[13:16] <appelza> ask dont ask to ask
[13:17] <Chin1> i've been trying to install the driver for my nvidia card m7950 GTX
[13:17] <Chin1> the synaptic is not working
[13:18] <Chin1> and i went to envidia, downloaded the driver, to install it manually but the terminal is telling me to disable the X
[13:19] <zorglu_> !ipv6
[13:19] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[13:19] <Chin1> how can i disable the X, so i can install the driver manually... or better, how can i make the sync to work properly?
[13:20] <stdin> !x | Chin1
[13:20] <ubotu> Chin1: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[13:20] <stdin> replace "restart" with "stop" to stop it
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> Chin1, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[13:21] <Chin1> great. Thanks a lot guys... really appreciate your help.
[13:22] <Chin1> one more thing, is there anyway to make the sync work properly?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> Chin1, how do you mean?
[13:22] <Chin1> i mean, i see some nvidia packages to be install, I installed but the don't fix my resolution??? neither upgrade my video drivers...!!!
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Chin1, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:23] <Chin1> that should upgrade my driver?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Chin1, that will allow you to reconfigure your x server so that you can enable graphical resolutions
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Chin1, you will need to install the driver first though
[13:26] <Chin1> ok. so after i install the driver, i should run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg... right?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> Chin1, yes
[13:28] <Chin1> thanks a lot man... i spend 5 days looking just for this...!!!
[13:28] <Chin1> have a good 1...
[13:30] <kwonqi> hello
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> hi kw
[13:31] <kwonqi> is someone useing kde4 here and has the same bug? window decorations of plastik are too huge?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> !kde4 | kwonqi
[13:31] <ubotu> kwonqi: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[13:31] <sylvain-fr> Hi all
[13:31] <kwonqi> ow sorry
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> hi sylvain-fr
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> !hi | sylvain-fr
[13:32] <ubotu> sylvain-fr: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[13:33] <sylvain-fr> I have a problem with KDE : yesterday, I hibernated, and when I bootedagain my desktop, I couldn't login.
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> sylvain-fr, do you get a logon screen and it doesnt accept your password?
[13:34] <sylvain-fr> And I have a similar problem with kdesu : if i try to run kdesu foo, nothing runs
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> sylvain-fr, what do you get in the cosole when it runs?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> sylvain-fr, well...doesnt
[13:34] <sylvain-fr> My password was good, I am absolutely shure. But the message was something like "unable to connect"
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> sylvain-fr, if you can get the exact error we can search
[13:37] <sylvain-fr> ActionParsnip: I have this error trying to run "kdesu konqueror" in console :
[13:37] <sylvain-fr> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[13:37] <sylvain-fr> Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
[13:37] <sylvain-fr> !pastebin
[13:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> sylvain-fr, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/xlib-connection-to-0.0-refused-by-server-331779/
[13:41] <sylvain-fr> ActionParsnip: I search on forums and found It may be a problem from .Xauthority in /home/sylvain
[13:41] <sylvain-fr> ActionParsnip: thanks
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> sylvain-fr, np dude
[13:42] <sylvain-fr> ActionParsnip: I hope it will work ;-)
[13:43] <nuxil> log out and remove that file
[13:45] <sylvain-fr> nuxil: I must remove .Xauthority ?
[13:45] <nuxil> yes
[13:45] <nuxil> then relogin
[13:45] <sylvain-fr> ok
[13:45] <nuxil> its automaticly remade
[13:45] <nuxil> on login
[13:45] <sylvain-fr> There is not file /root/.Xauthority It's normal ?
[13:46] <nuxil> yes if you have a root account
[13:46] <nuxil> do you have a root account with pw ?
[13:47] <sylvain-fr> nuxil: A root acount ? I run Ubuntu. But my account (sylvain) have root rights
[13:47] <nuxil> if thats the case. you "cant" do su root.  in concole and then trype kdesu app it wount work.. you must as a user just type kdesu app
[13:47] <sylvain-fr> nuxil: OK, thanks
[13:48] <sylvain-fr> nuxil: but I didn't do "export XAUTHORITY=/home/name/.Xauthority" as it was wrote on forums. There is no problem ?
[13:49] <nuxil> umm.. are you trying to get X apps to work with ssh ?
[13:49] <sylvain-fr> nuxil: no
[13:49] <nuxil> if not you should not need to export
[13:49] <sylvain-fr> nuxil: I didn't
[13:50] <sylvain-fr> nuxil: *I don't
[13:50] <nuxil> what does echo $XAUTHORITY say ?
[13:51] <sylvain-fr> nuxil: OK. I saw It mey have a line like "export XAUTHORITY ......" in /etc/profile
[13:51] <sylvain-fr> nuxil: And cat /etc/profile | grep .X doesn't return nothing
[13:52] <sylvain-fr> nuxil: echo $XAU..... returns : /tmp/.gdmHLIQ4T
[13:52] <nuxil> ok.
[13:53] <nuxil> XAUTHORITY=""
[13:53] <nuxil> do that
[13:53] <sylvain-fr> nuxil: Is it normal ?
[13:53] <nuxil> also do echo $DISPLAY
[13:53] <nuxil> sylvain-fr, in my case its empty
[13:54] <sylvain-fr> nuxil: $DISPLAY is : :0.0
[13:56] <sylvain-fr> nuxil: I did logout after the problem (yesterday), but after joining this chan, Id didn't?
[13:56] <nuxil> xauth -f /tmp/.gdmHLIQ4T
[13:56] <sylvain-fr> * ? > .
[13:56] <nuxil> what?
[13:57] <sylvain-fr> nuxil: It runs a bash which first line is "xauth>" (like when you type "grub")
[13:57] <nuxil> type quit
[13:57] <nuxil> does it say
[13:57] <sylvain-fr> I did Ctrl+C to quit
[13:57] <nuxil> Using authority file  bla bla bla
[13:58] <sylvain-fr> Yes, the file in /tmp
[13:58] <nuxil> ok. try now
[13:58] <sylvain-fr> nuxil: try what ?
[13:58] <miegamice> hi.... i had a problem... i cannot enter in my linux hdd, and from windows, i cannot enter linux hdd... whats the problem?
[13:59] <nuxil> if not .. remove /tmp/.gdmHLIQ4T and /home/name/.Xauthority
[13:59] <nuxil> also set to XAUTHORITY=""
[13:59] <sylvain-fr> nuxil: I am going to reboot, and then I'll join again this chan and explain you what appened
[14:01] <_gtt_> other than iptables... what could i have edited that blocked my external ssh and rdp/vnc connections?
[14:02] <miegamice> how i can choose-boot in linux or windows with 2 hdd...?  when I turn of computer, it automaticaly boot in windows
[14:02] <gfdd> install grub on windows disk
[14:04] <miegamice> how i can install downloaded programs ...pll.bz2.run
[14:06] <icewaterman> miegamice: if you really know what you are doing, then chmod 700 it and execute it with ./filename
[14:07] <edwin_> hi, does anyone know a good resource to trouble shoot why my webcam on kopete shows up black and white?
[14:07] <edwin_> i've been googling for an hour to no availe
[14:07] <icewaterman> miegamice: but you should be absolutely sure you want this, nobody is going to help you in case you installed some trojan horse or something similar evil.
[14:09] <icewaterman> most packages are usually available via apt-get
[14:14] <subopt> I just installed 7.10, and firefox is wildly unstable. It seldom lasts more than an hour before locking up. Anyone else seeing this?
[14:16] <jussi01> subopt: not me, did you install any extenstions?
[14:17] <subopt> jussi01: no
[14:19] <emenjoul> sam???
[14:24]  * Downix is debating on which OS to set up for our server images
[14:25] <Downix> I've narrowed myself down to ubuntu server, CentOS and Solaris
[14:26] <jpatrick> Downix: ubuntu
[14:26] <Downix> I noticed ubuntu ships with almost the ideal setup by default
[14:32] <marwan> bonjour
[14:33] <jpatrick> !fr | marwan
[14:33] <ubotu> marwan: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:34] <marwan> je voudrai partionner mon dd pour y remetre windowss(lol je c'est)  mais voila il me le faut et je ne sais pas comment! au moi 100go me sufirons pour windows et en plus je n'use pas beaucoup de memoire avec kubuntu et windows( dusque dur je parle)
[14:34] <jpatrick> !fr > marwan
[14:34] <Admiral_Chicago> !partition
[14:34] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[14:34] <Admiral_Chicago> !QTpartred
[14:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qtpartred - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:34] <Admiral_Chicago> !QTparted
[14:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qtparted - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:35] <marwan> no its good ia m going to the french chat
[14:35] <Admiral_Chicago> ah its not in the bot...
[14:38] <MGalaxy> how can I disable compiz-fusion after "compiz --replace" ?
[14:39] <jpatrick> MGalaxy: kwin --replace
[14:39] <MGalaxy> jpatrick: thx
[14:52] <tung> i have problem with the network in kde 4. kde 4 doesn't have any program to use wireless.
[14:53] <tung> anyone help
[14:53] <BluesKaj> URLs in Thunderbird don't launch any browser... fixes/suggestions ?
[14:55] <tung> i tried to install kdenetwork-kde4 but it doesn't help
[14:56] <BluesKaj> tung,join #kubuntu-kde4
[14:57] <tung> i'm using kubuntu gutsy and have just install kde4
[14:57] <jpatrick> !kde4 > tung
[15:01] <FloydFan> how do you fix the problem in kubuntu where the resolution reverts back to some weird one everytime i restart the x server..?
[15:01] <FloydFan> im using nvidia
[15:02] <BluesKaj> !nvidia FloydFan
[15:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia floydfan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:02] <BluesKaj> !nvidia | FloydFan
[15:02] <ubotu> FloydFan: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:06] <FloydFan> BluesKaj: ive already installed the proprietary drivers
[15:09] <BluesKaj> FloydFan, ok now check out the drivers available for your monitor if you're using a pc.... or you can uninstall the nvidia proprietary drivers and go with the restricted graphics driver in system settings/advanced
[15:10] <FloydFan> im using a laptop
[15:10] <FloydFan> widescreen
[15:10] <FloydFan> yah im using the restricted drivers
[15:11] <spawn57> hi, what package do i need so that i have autoconf 2.53 or newer?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> then my advice is to use the default restricted driver in system settings ...it's already a proven driver altho perhaps not as flexible as a 'perfect' driver could be , it is stable
[15:11] <tung> floydfan: what is your problem
[15:12] <FloydFan> my resolution keeps reseting itself
[15:13] <FloydFan> every time i restart x
[15:14] <BluesKaj> stdin, any suggestions on a how to enable FF or Konq to open URL links from Thunderbird ?
[15:14] <BluesKaj> I don't mind kmail , but I get sick of the silly permissions it requires
[15:15] <stdin> BluesKaj: I just set the browser with "sudo update-alternatives --configure x-www-browser"
[15:15] <trappist> BluesKaj: silly permissions?
[15:15] <BluesKaj> yeah, stdin thays' done
[15:15] <BluesKaj> that's
[15:16] <BluesKaj> constantly asking for pws, trappist
[15:16] <trappist> BluesKaj: not sure what you mean.  I let it use kwallet, so I just have to enter my wallet password once when I log in
[15:21] <tung> I don't know how to use scim in openoffice
[15:22] <tung> but it works in kopete or pidgin
[15:35] <DreadKnight> i've reinstalled the old kopete and it still launches kopete-kde4 :((
[15:36] <dxter> hallo?
[15:36] <dxter> anyone swedish?
[15:36] <dxter> ?
[15:37] <Wollyhood> wie kann ich die konsole öffnen? schaffe das nicht
[15:38] <llutz> !de | Wollyhood
[15:38] <ubotu> Wollyhood: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[15:38] <Wollyhood> danke
[15:38] <Wollyhood> haha
[15:50] <jussi01> !nickspam > Herr_Ospel
[15:50] <nibbe> is anyone else experiencing a very low sound quality in amarok?
[15:50] <mickel> for german?
[15:50] <jussi01> !de
[15:51] <mickel> !de
[15:51] <mickel> ? how?
[15:51] <jussi01> wait a sec...
[15:51] <mickel> ok
[15:51] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[15:51] <jussi01> there we are
[15:51] <mickel> thx
[15:51] <Mason059> Hi all.  Anyone else having problems with internet connection since KDE4?
[15:52] <jussi01> Mason059: #kubuntu-kde4 ;)
[15:52] <Mason059> OK...on freenode?
[15:52] <jussi01> !nickspam > BlindK
[15:52] <jussi01> Mason059: yep :)
[15:53] <Mason059> Thanks Jussi01 :)
[15:53] <jussi01> Mason059: yw
[15:53] <larsemil> i have a problem - i cant lock my screen - i get an error saying no greeter plugin configured
[15:54] <larsemil> how do i install a greeter plugin?
[15:55] <nibbe> Is there anything I can do to increase the sound quality? When playing music the quality is like if it's recorded with a mobile phone from speakers.
[15:55] <jussi01> !sound
[15:55] <michaelnovakjr> nibbe: what are you using for audio?
[15:55] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[15:55] <nibbe> michaelnovakjr: I tried both amarok and kaffeine. Both had the same quality
[15:56] <michaelnovakjr> nibbe: did you check your kmix settings?
[15:56] <nibbe> never heard of kmix
[15:57] <michaelnovakjr> nibbe: that could be why.... kmix is like the sound settings for kubuntu
[15:57] <nibbe> looking into it now
[15:57] <michaelnovakjr> nibbe: its under the multimedia menu in the k menu
[15:57] <nibbe> Yeah, im looking at Kmix right now
[15:57] <michaelnovakjr> nibbe: ok, PCM is a good place to start
[15:58] <larsemil> ok i guess the kubuntu livecd with kde4 is broken then
[15:58] <michaelnovakjr> larsemil: it is not a final release as of yet.... its a stab in the dark
[15:59] <larsemil> michaelnovakjr: yeah, but hey - you know anything about how to install a greeter plugin?
[15:59] <nibbe> Fix'd now. Thanks :-)
[15:59] <michaelnovakjr> nibbe: no problem.
[15:59] <michaelnovakjr> larsemil: what version of kubuntu are you running?
[15:59] <larsemil> michaelnovakjr: just installed from the kde4 live cd thats on the mainpage of kubuntu
[16:01] <michaelnovakjr> larsemil: that could be a bug in KDE4 or in the Kubuntu code that works with KDE4
[16:01] <michaelnovakjr> larsemil: were you running KDE3 before this?
[16:01] <larsemil> michaelnovakjr: no. never used kde before.
[16:02] <jussi01> larsemil: try in #kubuntu-kde4  ;)
[16:03] <michaelnovakjr> larsemil: that is an idea, or just use the stable release of KDE... its really an excellent choice
[16:03] <larsemil> no then i will go for ubuntu. dont like kde3 at all. but kde4 is sooo goodlooking
[16:03] <michaelnovakjr> larsemil: good luck!
[16:06] <crackhead_25_> what's the console command to access a cd drive -- and clean/erase the data etc..??
[16:07] <michaelnovakjr> crackhead_25_: the cd drive is usually /dev/cdrom
[16:07] <michaelnovakjr> crackhead_25_: it mounts to /mnt/cdrom
[16:08] <crackhead_25_> ok... so, what? i just do rmdir or rm -a or something on that directory??
[16:09] <SlimeyPe1e> /media/cdrom
[16:09] <ardchoille> crackhead_25_: Is it a CD-R/RW? If not, then it is a finalised file system - you can't "erase" the data.
[16:09] <SlimeyPe1e> not /mnt
[16:09] <michaelnovakjr> SlimeyPele: ah yes, ::unix moment::
[16:09] <crackhead_25_> cdr-rw of course
[16:09] <crackhead_25_> i'm not an idiot :)
[16:10] <SlimeyPe1e> michaelnovakjr: :) Debian and some other Linuxes use /mnt IIRC.
[16:10] <michaelnovakjr> interesting
[16:10] <SlimeyPe1e> crackhead_25_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-166487.html
[16:10] <michaelnovakjr> SlimeyPele: i use sun machines for certain things... /mnt comes to me quicker
[16:15] <crackhead_25_> thanks slimey.. also, if i'm not seeing /mnt/cdrom.. would you know why that is?
[16:15] <SlimeyPe1e> crackhead_25_: it's /media/cdrom
[16:15] <crackhead_25_> ahhh
[16:16] <SlimeyPe1e> some other linux distros, and all the old-style Unixes, use /mnt so michaelnovakjr got confused.
[16:16] <michaelnovakjr> my fault... kubuntu uses media for devices
[16:16] <jckl> anyone happen to know the options/changes i need to make in alsa to make my speakers mute when i plug in my headphones on a compaq laptop?
[16:16] <baligh> Hello
[16:16] <SlimeyPe1e> hi.
[16:17] <baligh> i'm new in kubuntu and linux world
[16:17] <SlimeyPe1e> welcome :)
[16:17] <ardchoille> baligh: Welcome :)
[16:17] <baligh> can anyone help me to install lazarus compiler
[16:18] <baligh> it's a free crossplatform pascal compiler
[16:18] <SlimeyPe1e> You mean the Pascal thingamebob?
[16:18]  * Jucato ubotu find lazarus
[16:18] <baligh> yep
[16:18] <ardchoille> baligh: sudo apt-get install lazarus
[16:18] <SlimeyPe1e> Should be easy. Open Adept (K -> System -> Adept PAckage Manager)
[16:18] <ubuntu_> rolf mayo
[16:18] <SlimeyPe1e> then just tell Adept to install Lazarus
[16:18] <crackhead_25_> slimey.. it won't work.. i try cdrecord on the /dev/hdd.. which is supposedly the only viewable/accessible target cd drive.. though it doesn't show the second cd drive in my box, which has the actual cd in it.. you know why this might be?
[16:19] <SlimeyPe1e> yeah, or use apt-get like ardchoille said
[16:19] <Jucato> !info lazarus
[16:19] <ubotu> lazarus: Rapid Application Development (RAD) tool for Free Pascal. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-1 (gutsy), package size 35749 kB, installed size 151628 kB (Only available for i386 powerpc sparc amd64)
[16:19] <jckl> isnt aptitude better than apt-get?
[16:19] <trpr> they do the same thing. its your choice
[16:19] <ardchoille> jckl: It's personal preference really
[16:19] <SlimeyPe1e> crackhead_25_: /dev/cdrom doesn't work?
[16:20] <baligh> tryin'
[16:20] <crackhead_25_> no, says error..
[16:20] <jckl> ok
[16:20] <SlimeyPe1e> jckl: it's cleverer, but both tend to work
[16:20] <crackhead_25_> i'm too tired to figure it out right now, though.. slimey, if you're around later, i'll retry..
[16:20] <jckl> i thought i read that aptitude was better for dependancies when removal
[16:20] <SlimeyPe1e> crackhead_25_: I idle in here all the time, but I'm not always looking at my PC.
[16:20] <crackhead_25_> ardchoille: do you have an opinion on if kubuntu is the fastest distro out there, or if and what if any are faster out of the box with least setup (but some ease of setup)??
[16:20] <SlimeyPe1e> but feel free to poke me
[16:21] <ardchoille> jckl: That used to be the case, but apt-get has the _auto-remove option now that does pretty much the same thing
[16:21] <jckl> aw ok
[16:21] <jckl> how would i check my alsa version
[16:22] <jckl> i want to see if there is a newer version to see if it will fix my headphones and speakers
[16:22] <ardchoille> crackhead_25_: That would really be a personal opinion and somewhat dependent on the hardware and other apps/services you have installed.
[16:23] <SlimeyPe1e> jckl: alsactl --version will show the version of alsactl, and I think that ties in with the alsa version
[16:24] <michaelnovakjr> crackhead_25_: what do you use linux for? casual or work related?
[16:24] <jckl> hmm ok thx
[16:25] <crackhead_25_> michaelnovakjr: both.. desktop productivity.. basically it's my only computer.. i just want it to be as fast and stable and efficient and indestructible as possible..
[16:25] <crackhead_25_> firefox keeps crashing now and then on kubuntu.. so does kopete.. and ktorrent.. and the X engine whenever it restarts seems to eff up.. and the mouse cursor disappears.. or the screen saver doesn't lock when it comes on (even though it's set to..) .. or when i try to sign in with a second guest account, while the first is on, the system crashes..
[16:26] <tlmarker> Will not installing nVidia drivers with a nVidia card cause KDE to crash?
[16:26] <baligh> which one is better ubuntu or kubuntu
[16:26] <muesli__> tlmarker: no
[16:26] <ardchoille> !ot
[16:26] <muesli__> baligh: which one is better mercedes or bmw?
[16:26] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[16:26] <SlimeyPe1e> tlmarker: shouldn't do.
[16:27] <baligh> mercedes
[16:27] <SlimeyPe1e> but X might crash if the default nv driver doesn't support your card.
[16:27] <baligh> i can answer it
[16:27] <baligh> can u?
[16:27] <muesli__> baligh: since i prefer bmw and i use kubuntu i suggest you go with ubuntu then
[16:27] <muesli__> ;-)
[16:27] <jckl> isnt ubuntu and kubuntu pretty much the same with a different gui environament
[16:27] <baligh> lol
[16:27] <SlimeyPe1e> jckl: that's correct
[16:27] <jckl> i actually have both kde and gnome on here
[16:27] <SlimeyPe1e> different default apps too
[16:27] <baligh> i prefer kubuntu
[16:28] <jckl> my gnome apps work in kde as my kde work in gnome :)
[16:28] <muesli__> baligh: you should really go and checkout bmw then ;-)
[16:28] <tlmarker> is there a place to find what card the default driver supports?
[16:28] <jckl> it seems you guys get a lot of questions that depend on personal preference.
[16:28] <jckl> :)
[16:28] <crackhead_25_> michaelnovakjr: any opinion? feedback??
[16:28] <michaelnovakjr> nVidia drivers are a good thing to install
[16:29] <ardchoille> jckl: Well, most apps are personal preference. That which works for me may not suit your needs :)
[16:29] <muesli__> tlmarker: the "default" driver is probably vesa and should pretty much support anything  that's ever been out
[16:29] <michaelnovakjr> crackhead_25_: i am a fan of kubuntu, i tried openSuse again with 10.3 and hated it
[16:29] <michaelnovakjr> tlmarker: look in the restricted drivers section for the nvidia info
[16:29] <crackhead_25_> what about something gentoo based, like vector linux??
[16:30] <crackhead_25_> michaelnovakjr: can you pm me? this is off topic some..
[16:30] <SlimeyPe1e> muesli__: kubuntu will default to nv if it finds an nvidia card
[16:30] <SlimeyPe1e> tlmarker: what card do you have?
[16:30] <michaelnovakjr> SlimeyPele: it doesn't use it though
[16:30] <crackhead_25_> michaelnovakjr: how do i register my user??
[16:30] <muesli__> SlimeyPe1e: oh interesting. it didn't seem to do with 2 nvidia cards tho
[16:30] <crackhead_25_> (it doenst let me?? )
[16:31] <SlimeyPe1e> muesli__: oh right, well... AFAIK it *should* ;)
[16:31] <michaelnovakjr> crackhead_25_: on irc?
[16:31] <michaelnovakjr> you have to activate the nvidia drivers under restricted drivers, because they are closed-source
[16:32] <michaelnovakjr> it is recommended though, nVidia drivers will support more features specific to your needs
[16:34] <tlmarker> gForce 6 series. I installed it on windows, and am not 100% sure.
[16:34] <michaelnovakjr> tlmarker: do you know where the restricted drivers are?
[16:36] <tlmarker> yes. i was able to install them on KDE3.5. My problem is that I installed KDE4 to try it out and for some reason X crashes when I am using it. I would assume that being the drivers worked on KDE3.x, then they should work on KDE4.
[16:37] <SlimeyPe1e> ah yes, they should, but kde4 tries to use compositing stuff that kde3 doesn't.
[16:37] <SlimeyPe1e> that might cause problems.
[16:37] <michaelnovakjr> i would go to the KDE4 channel with that
[16:38] <michaelnovakjr> try in #kubuntu-kde4  ;)
[16:38] <BluesKaj> tlmarker, aha, kde4 not the same at all ..none of my graphics heavy apps like google earth would run on kde4
[16:43] <baligh> sudo didn't succeed
[16:44] <baligh> i'm tryin' adept
[16:44] <sylvain-fr> nuxil: "re" (after many hours...)
[16:44] <sylvain-fr> nuxil: I can run kdesu now. Thanks :-)
[16:45] <toboh> hi, Im a newbie that has just installed kubuntu, and my sound does not work. Ive tried the HdaIntelSoundHowto but it still does not work
[16:45] <michaelnovakjr> toboh: make sure libaudio is installed.... under the package manager
[16:45] <toboh> ok, im gonna check it right now
[16:46] <ardchoille> !sound | toboh Have you seen this info?
[16:46] <ubotu> toboh Have you seen this info?: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[16:46] <SlimeyPe1e> toboh: ATI sound chipset?
[16:46] <tlmarker> BluesKaj: would you recomment using kde4?
[16:47] <michaelnovakjr> The audio could also be muted
[16:47]  * SlimeyPe1e does not recommend kde4, yet
[16:47] <michaelnovakjr> toboh: by default the audio could be muted, you can fix that by going into the KMix panel
[16:47] <toboh> its not muted, just a sec im searching for the  libaudio
[16:47] <michaelnovakjr> toboh: ok
[16:48] <michaelnovakjr> toboh: mine wasn't working, I installed libaudio and some mp3 packages and the audio was picked up
[16:49] <BluesKaj> tlmarker, IMHO kde4 is not ready for prime time ...not on my setup at least :(
[16:49]  * SlimeyPe1e has an ATI HDA sound chipset and it isn't supported by ALSA in Gutsy
[16:50] <toboh> michael, im trying to search the libaudio (with exactly this name) at the kde package manager but I cant find it
[16:50] <jckl> i was able to fix my headphone/speaker problem with options snd-hda-intel model=laptop :)
[16:50] <BluesKaj> SlimeyPe1e, the ati sound card chips are supported by alsa .
[16:50] <SlimeyPe1e> BluesKaj: indeed, but not this one it would seem.
[16:50] <ardchoille> toboh: libaudio2 (I'm on Gutsy)
[16:50] <baligh> muesli__ how's u(r bmw
[16:50] <BluesKaj> alsa and kmix have to be configged is all ..it's aPITA but it can be done
[16:50] <toboh> ok, Ive got the newest version
[16:51] <toboh> just check it with aptitude
[16:51] <SlimeyPe1e> I've googled till my fingers went blue, and fiddled with various alsa options. None of the recommendations worked, for me.
[16:51] <jckl> what needs done in kmix
[16:51] <SlimeyPe1e> *shrug* not much of an issue, I don't really need sound anyway
[16:51] <jckl> hmm i have more stuff in kmix now
[16:52] <ScorpKing> !xorg
[16:52] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[16:52] <baligh> not mueslix
[16:52] <baligh> but kmueslix
[16:52] <toboh> by the way, the sound card (as far as I know) is a hda-intel, Intel Corporation 82801H ICH8 Family
[16:52] <toboh> is that really it?
[16:52] <ScorpKing> my nvidia card stopped working for no reason. i only get a blank screen. any ideas?
[16:52] <toboh> thats what alsaconf detects
[16:53] <BluesKaj> SlimeyPe1e, jckl open kmix and enable Master & PCM on the output tab , then CD & IEC playback (if listed) in the Input tab , next make sure Mix & IEC958 are enabled in the Switches tab , then click on Settings/Configure Kmix and apply
[16:53] <jckl> i looked it up
[16:53] <jckl> mine was a conexant
[16:53] <michaelnovakjr> toboh: the package is libaudio2
[16:53] <jckl> i looked up what i needed to use in an alsa file
[16:53] <SlimeyPe1e> BluesKaj: can't. No mixers found.
[16:53] <toboh> michaelnovakjr, its installed
[16:53] <SlimeyPe1e> ALSA is non-functioning.
[16:54] <ScorpKing> how do i reconfigure X ?
[16:55] <BluesKaj> SlimeyPe1e, ' cat /proc/asound/cards ' then ' asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[16:55] <michaelnovakjr> toboh: do you have configs in KMix?
[16:55] <jckl> aplay -l will tell you your plaback hardware device
[16:55] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:55] <toboh> they disappear after I tried to follow the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[16:55] <crookshanks> there really needs to be a gtk or qt-based twitter app for linux
[16:55] <ScorpKing> thanks ardchoille
[16:55] <crookshanks> the only one out there is written using mono :(
[16:55] <BluesKaj> ScorpKing, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:56] <BluesKaj> oops
[16:56] <crookshanks> at least the only one in the ubuntu repository
[16:56] <toboh> and I can tell you more, the aplay -l, returns aplay: device_list:205: no soundcards found...
[16:56] <ardchoille> !info gtwitter | crookshanks Would this work?
[16:56] <ubotu> crookshanks would this work?: gtwitter: Client for tracking and posting to twitter. In component universe, is extra.  I suspect that the problem is deeper down tbh.
[17:00] <michaelnovakjr> toboh: how about arts?
[17:00] <SlimeyPe1e> (asoundconf doesn't give any errors but it doesn't solve the problem)
[17:00] <toboh> michaelnovakjr, also installed
[17:00] <BluesKaj> SlimeyPe1e, do an lspci , and look for something like "sound controllers"
[17:00] <SlimeyPe1e> BluesKaj: It's an ATI 450.
[17:01] <michaelnovakjr> toboh: damn, I had the same problem too, whatever you do DONT uninstall alsa
[17:01] <SlimeyPe1e> it does appear in /proc/asound/cards correctly, but that's about it.
[17:01] <michaelnovakjr> toboh: it will kill your entire system
[17:01] <toboh> wow...
[17:01] <BluesKaj> SlimeyPe1e, then : asoundconf set-default-card "ATI 450"
[17:01] <MilitantPotato> In K3B what filesystem would be read in most devices? Joliet?
[17:01] <toboh> Ive just found out one bad thing
[17:02] <itsjustme> is there a camera review chat channel someone can advise me
[17:02] <toboh> ive looked at the list of alsa soundcards for intel and i cant find my chipset
[17:02] <toboh> ...
[17:02] <michaelnovakjr> toboh: alsa doesn't work well with integrated intel
[17:03] <jckl> what chipset toboh
[17:03] <toboh> ich8
[17:03] <toboh> intel hda ich8
[17:03] <ardchoille> itsjustme: Try searching google for "camera_model review", that help me to decie which one to buy. Also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[17:03] <BluesKaj> SlimeyPe1e, toboh , to set up alsa on your system :  k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply '
[17:03] <toboh> im searching now for some solution for that chip in google
[17:04] <itsjustme> I was hoping there would be a chatsite that I could learn from users and what there experiances were
[17:04] <toboh> BluesKaj, Ive already tried that
[17:04] <toboh> BluesKaj, Ive tried both the ALSA, OSS and automatic detec options
[17:06] <BluesKaj> toboh, have you set alsa in the terminal ?
[17:06] <jckl> what do you want to know about it toboh
[17:06] <toboh> well, Ive tried a lot of stuff =)
[17:06] <toboh> one of them was to set it in the terminal also
[17:06] <michaelnovakjr> toboh: what audio devices does it say you have installed?
[17:07] <cobb28> is now a bad time to install kubuntu 64bit?  Flash is a must have as well as a stable system.  Anyone have an opinion on this?
[17:07] <toboh> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[17:07] <toboh>         Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Unknown device 30cd
[17:07] <toboh>         Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
[17:07] <toboh>         Memory at f4500000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
[17:07] <toboh>         Capabilities: <access denied>
[17:07] <ardchoille> !flashissue | cobb28
[17:07] <ubotu> cobb28: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[17:07] <BluesKaj> toboh, in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'
[17:08] <jpatrick> !paste > toboh
[17:09] <toboh> sorry patrik
[17:09] <toboh> blues, gonna try it right now
[17:09] <jpatrick> toboh: for next time ;)
[17:09] <cobb28> ubotu: is that the only big issue currently? as opposed to a 32bit install? I;ve had bad luck with kubuntu in the past but would like to give it another try..currenlty using ubuntu with no issues but my new PC is coming ina few hours and I;d like ot do a fresh format
[17:09] <jpatrick> !bot > cobb28
[17:09] <BluesKaj> toboh, set the volume ctrls to about 71%
[17:09] <toboh> wow, alsamixer answered me  function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[17:10] <toboh> I think I have screwed up the mixer while trying to fix the sound
[17:11] <toboh> because after installing the newest version of the alsa, the sound options at kmix disappeared
[17:11] <toboh> notice that with the previous version of the alsa the sound was not working neither
[17:11] <BluesKaj> toboh, then you have to tell alsa what soundcard to use by : asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[17:12] <toboh> BluesKaj, i know that my card is a Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family), but what name should I put?
[17:12] <BluesKaj> http://trilug.org/~crimsun/alsa-info.sh #./alsa-info.sh
[17:15] <drif> am I able to even read-only access SFS (window's dynamic disk)?
[17:16] <toboh> BluesKai, the result is at http://pastebin.ca/857411
[17:18] <BluesKaj> toboh, asoundconf set-default-card "Intel Corporation 82801H"
[17:20]  * genii hands BluesKaj a coffee and sips one himself
[17:22] <toboh> it seems still not work
[17:23] <galathalion> how do i change settings for the menubar in KDE4?
[17:23] <toboh> amarok is saying that the device is busy, the test option at the sound configuration does not display anything and the kmix does not show anything
[17:24] <toboh> BluesKai, the new result is at http://pastebin.ca/857421
[17:25] <mewshi> !dual-head
[17:25] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[17:26] <BluesKaj> thx genii, now i have a real coffee buzz going :-)
[17:26] <genii> BluesKaj: Me too
[17:27] <andreasomageiras> hi
[17:30] <BluesKaj> toboh, do an lspci again and pastebin it pls
[17:31] <genii> BluesKaj: His loaded modules list does not show snd_hda_intel which I'm pretty sure is what the 82801 chipset uses
[17:32] <toboh>  Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[17:32] <BluesKaj> ok genii , what to do then , if his chipset isn't communicating to alsa ?
[17:33] <genii> toboh: Please try:  sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[17:33] <miegamice> where can I get skype for linux
[17:33] <jpatrick> !skype | miegamice
[17:33] <ubotu> miegamice: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[17:34] <genii> toboh: then also close kmix and reopen it by alt-f2 and type in kmix there to the window
[17:34] <toboh> ive got a FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-rt/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[17:34] <toboh> in the modprobe comand
[17:35] <genii> Hmm rt kernel
[17:36] <BluesKaj> toboh, you're on Ubuntu right , not running KDE ?
[17:36]  * BluesKaj doesn't know if that matters with alsa  :P
[17:36] <toboh> mmm, kubuntu and now at a KDE session
[17:36] <BluesKaj> ok
[17:37] <genii> BluesKaj: Shouldn't matter to alsa at all
[17:37] <BluesKaj> ok
[17:37] <toboh> but in the begining I was in gnome and it was not working neither'
[17:37] <miegamice> which program can open ...run file type? when I download some instalations, linux open those with kate writing program
[17:38] <genii> toboh: try       sudo depmod -a       then the sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel                     again
[17:40] <genii> toboh: The message you are getting about unknown symbol is normally when the driver does not match the kernel version
[17:41] <toboh> mmm, after the depmode I got the same message again
[17:41] <toboh> mmm, Ive tried one thing I saw at a website
[17:42] <toboh> im going to reboot and be back, ok?
[17:42] <genii> miegamice: Usually you would run that from a command prompt. It should be executable first. So in same directory the file is in, :    sudo chmod +x <put filename here>; ./<put filename here>
[17:42] <genii> miegamice: if the second command of ./<filename>   groans try instead   bash ./<filename>
[17:42] <genii> toboh: OK
[17:43] <genii> BluesKaj: I think he will likely need to recompile his alsa drivers to jibe with his nonstandard kernel
[17:44] <BluesKaj> genii, nonstd kernel ... how does that happen
[17:44] <BluesKaj> ?
[17:45] <genii> BluesKaj: He seems to have the realtime kernel as indicated by: [12:34:43] <toboh> ive got a FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-rt/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)           << note 2.6.22-14-rt  as kernel dir there
[17:45] <miegamice> that install is in /home/miegamice     folder...
[17:46] <holo> i don't I have inkspace available throw adept manager. I am using gutsy.
[17:46] <holo> *why don't I
[17:47] <nuxil> cos i need a sig
[17:47] <se7en> !inkscape
[17:47] <ubotu> Inkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more
[17:47] <holo> yes, it seems so. any idea? it should be there, at least from a thread in ubuntu forum
[17:48] <genii> miegamice: So do first:  cd ~