[15:54] <AlexShiroji> Well, its not that I want to mute it. Problem is that the headphone jack broke off inside the port. I want to disable the port so The speakers turn on
[15:54] <BluesKaj> AlexShiroji, yeah as Tech-1 says mute it in alsamixer , there should be a headphone ctrl , use the M ket to mute
[15:54] <BluesKaj> key
[15:55] <Tech-1> then if its broke, you prolly cant, being the jack has both spkr and headphone contacts on it
[15:55] <AlexShiroji> ah :(
[15:55] <AlexShiroji> Thanks then :(
[15:55] <Tech-1> youll have to physically break it down and rplace the jack
[15:55] <mparodi> Hey there!
[15:55] <mparodi> http://paste.kde.org/157418 It works if I execute the first two lines but no if I try to do it automatically using /etc/network/interfaces and reboot the system. what's the difference?
[15:56] <E3D3> pppurple: Sorry, I missed your question. You have Ubuntu installed ?
[15:57] <pfifo> mparodi, network-manager might be interfering
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> the interfaces file should override the GUI app
[15:58] <Tech-1> AlexShiroji:   turn the volume all the way down, so you dont short the onboard audio amp
[15:58] <mparodi> pfifo, how to know if it's the case?
[15:59] <pfifo> mparodi, try disabling network-manager
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> mparodi: could add your 2 lines of command in /etc/rc.local above the exit 0 line
[16:00] <BluesKaj> mparodi, with the way you have the interfaces file setup , it doesn't need NM
[16:01] <mparodi> I don't have network-manager installed, by the way
[16:01] <mparodi> and ok, I don't need NM but it can't be the problem :|
[16:02] <mparodi> it's something else, somehow they're doing different things
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> mparodi: makes the system faster if it's not installed :)
[16:03] <mparodi> that's weird because ifconfig eth0 says the IP of the other computer is <IP_ADDRESS> but I can't ping it from this computer
[16:03] <meerkats> what do I have to do to find, in the terminal, a command by its first letters?
[16:03] <mparodi> inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS> Bcast:192.168.255 Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:04] <mparodi> that's ifconfig eth0 in the other computer
[16:04] <xangua> meerkats: tab
[16:05] <pfifo> mparodi, wait, i think your file is setup wrong, try this instead http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[16:06] <robolobster54> I sshfs mounted a drive but i have no permission to access it on the local machine
[16:06] <mparodi> ok, let me see!
[16:06] <robolobster54> What could be wrong?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: find . -name "fire*"
[16:06] <meerkats> ok xangua, i made the wrong question: I mean only for the commands I have manually entered, so I dont have to up key, up key, up key... till I find it
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> robolobster54: did you give the right username and password
[16:06] <robolobster54> yes
[16:07] <BluesKaj> pfifo, he's using a static IP
[16:07] <pfifo> BluesKaj, yeah, the first secion of that document describe proper syntax for static interface
[16:09] <mparodi> pfifo, it's the same, isn't it?
[16:10] <mkjackson_mobile> hey folks, so I just moved my tmp directory to ram using "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec,mode=1777 0 0" in my fstab... does this mean that it will use as much as it needs or is there a limit I'm not thinking of?
[16:10] <pfifo> mparodi, under closer inspection yeah it is
[16:11] <pppurple> E3D3, yeah i am running 11.10 now
[16:11] <BluesKaj> mparodi, open or create with permissions a /etc/hosts.allow file and the IPs of the pcs on your lan under , portmap ALL:192.168.X.XX
[16:11] <pfifo> mparodi, comment out lines 4 and 6
[16:12] <ServerTechLaptop> Encrypted HDD shows 'unmountable drive' after entering pass?
[16:12] <robolobster54> ActionParnsip I sshfs'd in as root, does that answer the question?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> robolobster54: why sshfs as root?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> robolobster54: do you need access to files outside $HOME ?
[16:14] <robolobster54> ActionParnsip, no other user will work when sshfs'ing other than root
[16:14] <robolobster54> I do not need access to files outside $HOME
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> robolobster54: it will, just tell it to mount  the remote /home/user   folder and it will work
[16:15] <robolobster54> I think I've tried that, will try again
[16:15] <pfifo> mparodi, are you sure networking is starting at boot time?
[16:15] <robolobster54> ActionParnsip by the way, I am sshfs'ing in with public key authentication, if it makes any difference
[16:16] <hobbel> ntfsfix: Volume is corrupt. You should run chkdsk.  <-- chkdsk Volume is fine
[16:17] <robolobster54> ActionParnsip, indeed it doesn't work logging in the sshfs unless I use root
[16:17] <mparodi> pfifo, I don't know. I just noticed it stopped working with the first two lines I pasted so I trying to fix that first :S
[16:17] <robolobster54> Log says: Permission denied, public key
[16:19] <pfifo> mparodi, can you ping yourself with ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:20] <E3D3> pppurple: Did you opened the install-page (link left) ? Use the 1st block commands: Method 1-Bis. (Not the code for # Debian users) Copy the commands lines (those starting without ##) one by one in a terminal & enter
[16:20] <mparodi> oh, never mind! it's working now. the problem is that when I reboot the other computer I need to execute "ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>" here again :)
[16:21] <pfifo> !yay | mparodi
[16:21] <Tech-1> lol
[16:21] <mparodi> it's weird though
[16:21] <mparodi> but well
[16:22] <Ravior> Any Ubuntu 12.04 alpha 1 users?
[16:22] <oCean> Ravior: #ubuntu+1 channel for that
[16:23] <BluesKaj> mparodi, for what it's worth here's my interfaces file, http://paste.ubuntu.com/766028/ ..quite simple and it's all you really need
[16:23] <Ravior> thx
[16:23] <wk> ActionParsnip: I ran the patches on the 11.04 kernel and it worked.
[16:23] <E3D3> pppurple: Or click on the link left in the installation-web-page and translate it. There you see a recommend method that use a download + shellscript.
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> wk: wtg :)
[16:23] <wk> ActionParsnip: Keyboard backlight now 70%-ish functional, I just can't figure out how to adjust it yet, but atleast it works! :)
[16:24] <mparodi> by the way, I don't have internet on the other computer since it's only connected to this one but can I configure something to have internet? I would like to install a couple of things using my repos
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> wk: you'll need to redo it each time a new kernel is installed, you could pin the kernel version using apt-pinning but you may miss out on other stuff
[16:24] <pfifo> mparodi, google for iptables masquerading howto
[16:25] <mparodi> alright! thank you all :)
[16:25] <wk> ActionParsnip: Yeaah I got that.. Problem is that I never liked updating the kernel, always gave me GRUB and other bootup problems.
[16:25] <BluesKaj> mparodi, how is the other pc connected to "this one" ?
[16:25] <mparodi> a network cable using eth0 in both computers, that's all
[16:25] <wk> ActionParsnip: So I'll stick on the current kernel unless something drastically changes.
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> wk: then pin away :)
[16:26] <wk> ActionParsnip: One more thing.. How do I downgrade GNOME 3.2 to the default version in 11.04? (could just google it)
[16:28] <semba> Hey, i m new to linux and I'd like to connect a 2nd screen to my laptop but when I simply plug it in as I used to do on windows nothing happens. Do you know how to do it?
[16:28] <BluesKaj> mparodi, so you have 2 nics on the internet connected pc , then thru a router/modem to the internet?
[16:28] <wk> semba: Try pressing WINDOWS KEY + P at the same time
[16:28] <mparodi> yes, PC1 --> PC2 --> router, that's the idea
[16:28] <sam22> hail !!! people of this chanel
[16:28] <E3D3> pppurple: I prefer: Method 1-Bis. Just copy those 4 command-lines one by one in terminal, plug in an USB & install as many distro's as fit ;-)
[16:28] <E3D3> Some are not supported, see their list although it supports more than on the list.
[16:28] <pppurple> E3D3, yeah i think i am getting the shell as well. the translation kinda didnt translate well and im still a bit new
[16:29] <BluesKaj> mparodi, but whynot connect the other pc into the router as well?
[16:29] <E3D3> pppurple: You don't need the translation, French commands are the same ;-)
[16:30] <pppurple> E3D3, i checked that list and it donst have mint or arch but i can def run different versions of ubuntu
[16:30] <mparodi> because it doesn't have a wifi card and I'm about at 10m of the router (no, I don't have a 10m network cable and it's saturday to buy one!), BluesKaj
[16:30] <pfifo> le'grub-install
[16:30] <pppurple> E3D3, i understand the comands i just dont understand all the instructions haha
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> wk: you can log into gnome classic in Natty,it's not an option in Oneiric and later and Gnome2 is no longer developed upstream
[16:30] <semba> wk: the bar in the left part of my screen shows up with numbers, but my other screen keeps saying no signal
[16:30] <mparodi> actually I have a 10m network cable but I just noticed it's broken (I never use it) :|
[16:30] <E3D3> pppurple: It works in new Ubuntu (if I'm not wrong) & also in Mint 12, for me not in Mint 11 & 10.
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> wk: if you like the gnome 2 look, I suggest you install xfce4 and use that
[16:31] <semba> wk oh and i m using gnome
[16:31] <E3D3> pppurple: The first command add a repository:
[16:31] <E3D3> sudo apt-add-repository 'deb http://liveusb.info/multisystem/depot all main'
[16:31] <pppurple> E3D3, i just have 11.10 Ub installed and i want to save those other distros to the USB and boot off it
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> E3D3: if you do it that way, you will need to manually import the GPG key
[16:32] <BluesKaj> mparodi, is it possible to move the router closer , if you're on dsl , then you just need a phone line
[16:32] <E3D3> pppurple: Do you want a copy of what you have on harddisk or new/fresh distro's on the usb
[16:32] <E3D3> wget -q http://liveusb.info/multisystem/depot/multisystem.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[16:32] <E3D3> This add the public key
[16:32] <shankysv87> i'm having issues with my wireless connection.
[16:32] <mparodi> haha it's not. otherwise I will need a 10m telephone cable, and I don't have one neither, BluesKaj
[16:33] <pppurple> E3D3, hmm yeah. i can copy it but i dont understand what all the commands are doing so if i screw something up i dont know how to fix it
[16:33] <E3D3> pppurple: This Reload the sources:
[16:33] <E3D3>  sudo apt-get update
[16:33] <BluesKaj> mparodi, ok :)
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> pppurple: or more intelligently: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/12618/multisystem/
[16:33] <pppurple> E3D3, i am putting new distros that i have on ISOs
[16:33] <shankysv87> did an update last night and my ability to use my wireless adapter has disappeared.
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> E3D3: one link said all that you said, and I didn't scroll the channel
[16:33] <mparodi> I just want to forward any request PC1 do to PC2, it can't be that hard
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> !ics | mparodi
[16:33] <E3D3> pppurple: Okay, Multisystem is my hero for that
[16:34] <mparodi> interesting, thanks
[16:34] <E3D3> ActionParsnip: Am I saying to much ? Or wrong things
[16:35] <amin`> holstein:  is notifyosd the lib or the api i mean it is the underlining  substructure or that bubbly stuff
[16:35] <ssbr_> So, xtris is broken: http://codepad.org/ZX7OEYWS
[16:36] <pfifo> !info xtris
[16:36] <pfifo> !info xtris lucid
[16:37] <pfifo> ssbr_, looks like it was removed from the repos
[16:38] <pppurple> E3D3, thanks. im reading that link that ActionPar linked and trying some terminal stuff you posted. it looks like it will work well if i can LEARN!
[16:38] <meadhikari> please help my ssh script does not works while on cron its ""ssh -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub<EMAIL_ADDRESS>it works without password when executed alone
[16:39] <semba> nothing happens with windows key+p, any other idea to set up that 2nd screen?
[16:39] <E3D3> I'm a fullblood eternal noob and just got help from nice people with patience. Love also Multisystem so like to help, if I can.
[16:40] <HQRaja> Guys, is there a way to do sudo apt-get update from the GUI in Software Center after adding a new repository, without having to go to the command line?
[16:40] <pfifo> meadhikari, it might be because cron runs without the usual enviroment variables that your user runs as
[16:41] <meadhikari> pfifo, i gave the input file
[16:41] <HQRaja> I mean, when we can add a repository through the GUI, we should be able to update too, right?
[16:41] <meadhikari> pfifo, what other environment is required?
[16:41] <pfifo> meadhikari, cron dosent have a $HOME set, so ~ wont work
[16:41] <Dj_FlyBy> I am having some issues with Ubuntu 10.04 freezing during bootup now that I activated a restricted driver for my ATI Radeon HD3450. Any suggestions to fix this please?
[16:42] <Tech-1> HQRaja:  you could install   nautilus-open-terminal  and use the mouse right click for easy terminal
[16:42] <meadhikari> pfifo, /home/username/.ssh is also not working :(
[16:42] <pfifo> meadhikari, then perhaps ssh requires an interactive session
[16:42] <HQRaja> Tech-1: Yup I know there are workaround for that...I'm just wondering if there's the update functionality built into the GUI of Software Center (as it should be) or not
[16:43] <Tech-1> no, sry
[16:43] <HQRaja> No problem =)
[16:43] <Tech-1> 10-4
[16:43] <meadhikari> pfifo, no, it is not interactive no password or a passphrase needs to be provided
[16:43] <pfifo> meadhikari, exactly
[16:43] <HQRaja> 10-4?
[16:43] <Tech-1> = ok
[16:43] <HQRaja> Oh OK
[16:44] <meadhikari> pfifo, what you mean by that?
[16:44] <pfifo> meadhikari, i mean ssh most likely REQURES an interactive shell
[16:45] <meadhikari> pfifo, and now how to prevent that
[16:45] <pfifo> meadhikari, why not just put the real script into the crontab of the target computer?
[16:46] <pppurple> is there a way to copy/paste into terminal?
[16:46] <pppurple> !repository
[16:47] <meadhikari> pfifo, actually i wanted to create a reverse port forwarding
[16:47] <pppurple> how do you add a repository?
[16:47] <E3D3> pppurple: Control-Shift-V
[16:47] <E3D3> pppurple: Paste in terminal
[16:48] <cooper_> In the past 10 days I've had  two kernel changes. Today I  updated to 3.0.0-14-generic.  Has anyone else experienced this?
[16:48] <meadhikari> pfifo, ssh -i ~/.ssh/id -f -N -q -R 2222:localhost:22<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is my script
[16:48] <is_null> hi all, my mouse is stuck, it happens a lot, i have to reboot every time ....
[16:49] <pfifo> meadhikari, that will never work in cron, you should be putting that in /etc/rc.local
[16:49] <is_null> oh there's a kernel package update i'll try that and come back to you
[16:49] <meadhikari> pfifo,  i do not have root access to the system, is their any work around?
[16:50] <pfifo> meadhikari, add it to your users startup scripts
[16:50] <tonyyarusso> I have a laptop (HP Compaq nc8230) that runs 11.10 fine locally.  However, when PXE booting 11.10 from a Clonezilla box, the boot hangs on "input: PS/2 Generic Mous as /devices/platform/i8042/serio4/serio5/input/input8".  Any ideas?
[16:50] <meadhikari> pfifo, like @restart in cron? u just said it wont work on cron right?
[16:50] <cooper_> I'll have to check and see if the new kernel improves power usage on my acer aspire 4720z.
[16:51] <cassuser> Hello - I have 11.10 and a Synaptics Touchpad on my laptop. Very often a gesture gets triggered to move the current window, and it is very annoying.  I'm not sure what the gesture is or how to disable the move window gestures - does anyone have any suggestions on this issue?
[16:51] <pfifo> meadhikari, right it wont work in cron, add it to xsession or the startup applications
[16:51] <dbugger> hey guys. Im having some problems with DNS. "time echo "" | nc google.com 80" takes 20 seconds but when I use the IP address instead, is instant. How could I fix this?
[16:51] <colloquialismic_> Ok Guys
[16:51] <colloquialismic_> KDE vs GNOME... which one is sexier?
[16:52] <tester_> hi
[16:52] <zkriesse> colloquialismic_: Kde
[16:52] <Tech-1> my cat
[16:52] <is_null> colloquialismic_: dwm by suckless.org
[16:52] <colloquialismic_> zkriesse, why do you say that ? :D
[16:52] <HQRaja> Is there a way to set Gmail as my default email client in Ubuntu? Like...launching a gmail compose window when I click mailto: links
[16:52] <meadhikari> pfifo, i can only ssh to the system from inside the lan
[16:52] <HQRaja> I could do it in Windows by installing Google Apps
[16:52] <colloquialismic_> is_null, dwm? ill look it up
[16:53] <zkriesse> colloquialismic_: KDE IMO is more flashy, the main screen even on a default install is just awesome
[16:53] <pfifo> meadhikari, and?
[16:53] <Tech-1> HQRaja:  sys/pref/prefered apps
[16:53] <zkriesse> The effects are a lot nicer etc
[16:53] <meadhikari> pfifo, i just wanted to ssh to that computer from outside the lan
[16:54] <colloquialismic_> zkriesse, yes... but if i want to do some real work done... would u still think kde is best?
[16:54] <zkriesse> I've always preferred KDE's prettiness over any attempt at it by GNOME
[16:54] <colloquialismic_> zkriesse,  or is gnome a better option for pure work and barebones>?
[16:54] <zkriesse> colloquialismic_: They're both great UNIX softwares
[16:54] <is_null> colloquialismic_: look up "enlightnement" aka DR17
[16:54] <zkriesse> Just as effective
[16:54] <colloquialismic_> yes. i agree... which one is lighter tho?
[16:54] <colloquialismic_> oh ok
[16:54] <HQRaja> Tech-1: Yup but over there, I don't see any option for Gmail. It's kinda tricky since it's supposed to be a web app rather than an installed email client...but there's got to be a way to do it.
[16:54] <is_null> ok everybody, no mouse pointer anymore for me
[16:55] <Tech-1> ic
[16:55] <is_null> colloquialismic_: enlightenment is light and eye candy
[16:55] <colloquialismic_> I am looking at dwm, awesomewm and a few others... i am a pure cli dude ha
[16:55] <Tech-1> not sure then,
[16:55] <HQRaja> No problem
[16:55] <cooper_> Mouse trouble? Go to mouse and touchpad and uncheck "disable touchpad while typing".
[16:55] <HQRaja> Anyone else have any idea on how to configure Gmail to be your default email client? (Not through Thunderbird or another mail client i.e.)
[16:55] <zkriesse> colloquialismic_: What it really depends on is how the user utilizes the resources... Any system/OS has the potential to be effective to the best of its capabilities, it's the user that matters
[16:55] <is_null> how am i going to do that :)
[16:55] <zkriesse> HQRaja: Negative mate
[16:56] <pppurple> ...
[16:56] <is_null> nvm i figured, thanks colloquialismic_
[16:56] <is_null> *cooper_
[16:56] <colloquialismic_> I think I will use KDE with awesome WM... it looks the best and I used it a bit before
[16:56] <Tech-1> HQRaja:  maybe an applet ??
[16:56] <Tech-1> like checkGmail ?
[16:56] <colloquialismic_> is_null, I will look at ur other 2 suggestions tho
[16:57] <HQRaja> Tech-1: Lemme try looking it up, thanks =)
[16:57] <Tech-1> ok
[16:57] <Myrtti> !info gnome-gmail | HQRaja
[16:57] <user> hey any of you guys help me out please
[16:57] <colloquialismic_> does anyone know anyone here who may know someone about something i need from someone to give to someone?
[16:57] <Tech-1> thx Myrtti
[16:57] <HQRaja> Myrtti: Awesome...that sounds like exactly what I'm looking for =)
[16:57] <HQRaja> +1
[16:57] <user> need help to setup up proxy server on ubuntu
[16:58] <Myrtti> HQRaja: do you use Unity or Gnome-Shell?
[16:58] <amin`> ther
[16:58] <HQRaja> Myrtti: Unity
[16:58] <zkriesse> colloquialismic_: After I figure out that question ill answer ya :P
[16:58] <Myrtti> HQRaja: in that case you might be interested in gm-notify as well
[16:58] <colloquialismic_> zkriesse, good man :D
[16:58] <HQRaja> Myrtti: In addition to gnome-gmail or as an alternative?
[16:59] <user> i got all files needed but dont no how to configure it
[16:59] <Myrtti> HQRaja: I use both, but have added gnome-gmail to messaging menu blacklist
[16:59] <amin`> i am in need of "notification daemon"
[16:59] <Canadian1296> can anyone help with disabling casper autologin on a livecd before building?
[16:59] <HQRaja> Myrtti: I see...otherwise both notify you?
[17:00] <pfifo> Canadian1296, that info didnt work?
[17:00] <amin`> does notifyOSD and notification-daemon do the same job or one is front-end and back end
[17:00] <Myrtti> HQRaja: otherwise gnome-gmail shows up in the messaging menu without a specific purpose other than being there, gm-notify does a better job in the notification front
[17:01] <U-b-u-n-t-u> what is the command to reinstall an upgrade or fix an upgrade install
[17:01] <HQRaja> Myrtti: Ah I see...thanks. Since you've mentioned it, how do I add apps to blacklist of the messaging menu? I see a couple of apps there with mere entries there, without doing anything.
[17:02] <pfifo> Canadian1296, modify your initramfs have a look at the script 'casper-bottom/15autologin'
[17:02] <cassuser> Having issues with a Synaptics Touchpad where it drags windows around the screen.  Is there any way to disable the feature to move windows and still use the touchpad?
[17:02] <Canadian1296> pfifo: No, i created user "ubuntu" with uid of 999 and then set a pass. When i booted from it it logged in automatically, but rather than ubuntu@ubuntu$ it just said $ and started spitting out "sh" errors
[17:02] <HQRaja> PS: When I change my online status from the Messaging menu, which IM app does it effect? I have Pidgin and Emesene installed in addition to the default Empathy that shipped with Ubuntu
[17:02] <Canadian1296> pfifo: and okay, i've looked at it before, but ill take another look
[17:03] <Myrtti> HQRaja: mkdir -p ~/.config/indicators/messages/applications-blacklist/
[17:03] <super789> i'm having porblems instaling ubunto 10.10 from the cd in a p3 500mhz
[17:04] <Myrtti> HQRaja: then make symlinks there to whichever apps you want not to be visible to /usr/share/indicators/messages/applications
[17:04] <Myrtti> HQRaja: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/12/remove-unused-entries-from-the-ubuntu-messaging-menu/
[17:04] <HQRaja> Myrtti: Awesome...thanks a bunch =)
[17:04] <super789> i get to the menu to pick the language, and after chosing install option i just get a black screen
[17:04] <Myrtti> HQRaja: on the IM issue - no clue, I'm happy with Empathy now that it actually works nicely with Gtalk video chat
[17:05] <HQRaja> Myrtti: I see...yeah Empathy is pretty neat but I guess I'll have to get used to its UI which seems rather too 'empty' to someone coming from Windows
[17:06] <Tech-1> Please deposit all microsoft products to your nearest green box receptacle.
[17:06] <pfifo> super789, how long did you wait?
[17:06] <super789> pfifo 5 minutes
[17:07] <MeirD> I need to output all process (using ps aux) that uses more thab 0.1 of MEM
[17:07] <MeirD> than*
[17:07] <pfifo> super789, it will likely take hours to load, try the alternate installer
[17:07] <MeirD> I thought about a way to do it easily with awk
[17:07] <MeirD> but my assignment says I have to do it with ps aux|grep -E "^REGEX" only
[17:07] <super789> what is the alternate installer pfifo?
[17:07] <MeirD> any hints?
[17:08] <pfifo> !alternate | super789
[17:09] <Canadian1296> pfifo: would changing any instances of "AutomaticLoginEnable=true\n\" to "AutomaticLoginEnable=false\n\" do it?
[17:09] <HQRaja> Tech-1: Heh...well I actually really like Windows 7...merely made the switch to Ubuntu for a change but loving it so far.
[17:09] <super789> pfifo thanks. but i don't have any linux skills the instalation will also be user friendlly?
[17:09] <HQRaja> Learnign new things about it each day
[17:09] <HQRaja> Learning*
[17:09] <pfifo> Canadian1296, im not sure, but it sounds logical (i was thinking you might try deleting that script all together)
[17:10] <pfifo> super789, its not that hard
[17:10] <Canadian1296> Okay, would deleting it have any adverse effects (if something calls it but it's not there)?
[17:11] <pfifo> Canadian1296, not sure, keep a backup just in case
[17:11] <Canadian1296> well im working in virtualbox and i have several snapshots, so ill try it and see what happens
[17:11] <pfifo> Canadian1296, it looks like it simply calls all scripts in that directory
[17:11] <MeirD> this time in one line: I need to output all process (using ps aux) that uses more than 0.1 of MEM. I thought about a way to do it easily with awk. but my assignment says I have to do it with ps aux|grep -E "^REGEX" only. any hints?
[17:12] <Canadian1296> okay, so i'll delete 15autologin, and build.
[17:13] <Canadian1296> pfifo, before building i was just looking at the rest of the scripts in casper-bottom
[17:13] <Madkiss> hi there.
[17:13] <Madkiss> I'm installing 11.10, how do I choose LVM for disk setup?
[17:14] <``PeeR> hi either
[17:14] <pfifo> Canadian1296, try dpkg -L casper to see everything that casper installed
[17:15] <Canadian1296> pfifo, (sorry, hit enter), and i was wondering if deleting 10adduser would prevent it from adding a user at boot? that way i could set a root password and log in as root when prompted
[17:15] <pfifo> Canadian1296, that sounds like an option too
[17:15] <Canadian1296> okay, ill try it. thanks for your help
[17:16] <semba> any hints how to set up a 2d screen for my laptop (not sure which info you'd need to help me on that so please ask if I m not telling enough)
[17:17] <sam22> why you want help ?
[17:17] <sam22> with two monitors ?
[17:17] <Madkiss> it never even asks for LVM initialization orsomething.
[17:17] <semba> yes sam22
[17:17] <sam22> connect the 2nd monitor and that's it
[17:17] <semba> I did it and it says "No signal"
[17:17] <sam22> you want me to sign any papers ?
[17:17] <sam22> reboot your system
[17:18] <super789> can some one tell me the probability of the memmoryes that i have in my p4 fit in my p3?
[17:18] <pfifo> semba, you might need to press a function key specific to your laptop to activate the vga port
[17:18] <pfifo> super789, not good at all
[17:19] <semba> you mean reboot with my 2nd monitor plugged, too, right?
[17:19] <super789> ok thanks
[17:20] <warddr> Can anyone help me with ironhide? Is there a good step by step tutorial or something like that?
[17:21] <semba> sam22: will try and let you know
[17:21] <semba> thks
[17:21] <jjgalvez__> does gnome-shell have a widget layer like compiz ? I'm using screenlets and would like to put one on a widget layer, but don't know how to access it in gnome-shell
[17:21] <sam22> semba no need to thank me. you will figure it out by your self
[17:22] <super789> pfifo: just to confirm pc3200 512MB ddr doesnt fit in the pentium 3 board?
[17:23] <AlexIsAverage> I'm having some trouble setting up an Afterglow USB Xbox controller. Can anyone help me out?
[17:23] <endure> warddr: http://www.cmdematos.com/2011/10/ubuntu-1110-oneric-on-dell-xps17-l702x.html - Not really a guide but it got me ironhide running
[17:23] <pfifo> super789, a p3 500mhz isnt going to run ubuntu desktop very well
[17:24] <Medjai> Does anyone know of a way to switch default bindings for workspace switching from from ctrl+alt+arrow left/right to just alt+arow left/right?
[17:24] <warddr> thanks endure , I'll take a look at it
[17:24] <endure> warddr: No prob
[17:24] <super789> pfifo i discovered that a few minutos ago when reading the system requirements, do you recomend another distro?
[17:24] <pfifo> super789, ubuntu-server
[17:25] <super789> i'm preparing a PC for a children to user office and some browsing
[17:25] <super789> the server haves a desktop enviorment?
[17:26] <pfifo> super789, well anything graphical isnt going to be very good, no server dosent have a graphical enviroment
[17:26] <super789> i have a 256mb card in the pc
[17:26] <super789> grafic card
[17:26] <pfifo> super789, i guess your stuck with ubuntu-desktop, you wont get any beter performance from a different distro
[17:27] <super789> ok thanks
[17:27] <super789> i0m finishig downloading the alternate
[17:28] <pfifo> super789, it would make a good machine to run a remote desktop from
[17:29] <warddr> endure, I got it installed, and I found an example that changes the light between high and low energy profile. But the last command,    modprobe nvidea_current    gives me this error:  FATAL: Error inserting nvidia_current (/lib/modules/3.0.0-14-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia_current.ko): No such device
[17:30] <pfifo> modprobe nvidia_current
[17:30] <pfifo> not nvidea
[17:31] <L3d> hi do i need linux-kernel <IP_ADDRESS> because it sems i havent got another version or anny installed ,and the upd cmd didnt include this ,so what do i do ?
[17:31] <Night-hacks> where are short keys config files ?
[17:32] <warddr> pfifo, I know, just a typo here, I used the right command in the terminal
[17:32] <L3d> why dont i have an older version of this ?
[17:32] <pfifo> warddr, then you dont have a supported nvidia card, pastebin the output of `lspci`
[17:32] <Exxon> pfifo, modprobe | grep VGA
[17:33] <endure> warddr: Yer give what pfifo is saying a shot
[17:33] <Madkiss> any ideas, anyone?
[17:33] <Canadian1296> pfifo, making the squashfs filesystem… my fimgers are crossed
[17:33] <pfifo> Canadian1296, good luck :)
[17:33] <corey_> hello
[17:34] <warddr> ender, pfifo ,  http://pastebin.com/GtCJCDxJ
[17:34] <Guest36322> i have a ? how do i change my nick?
[17:34] <pfifo> warddr, you hyave an intel video card, I dont think it supports 3d acceleration
[17:34] <L3d> can someone say yes or no pls
[17:35] <L3d> uvd2 and vaapi
[17:35] <warddr> pfifo, I have an intel videa card, and an nvidea GT4
[17:35] <warddr> pfifo, I have an intel videa card, and an nvidea GT540
[17:35] <pfifo> warddr, yeah i just noticed the second
[17:35] <soltani> Hi,I want to install win7 beside ubuntu , how can I build a bootable flash?
[17:35] <L3d> grub
[17:36] <Exxon> soltani, instead going to flash business simply burn a cd and wubi..
[17:36] <pfifo> warddr, you might need to use the nvidia drivers from their site instead of what ubuntu is providing
[17:36] <L3d> dont foreget avira besides that ,thay also have a boot-anti-virus thingy ,wich is run with a linux thingy
[17:36] <soltani> Exxon, my cd drive does not work
[17:36] <pfifo> !liveusb | soltani
[17:36] <BluesKaj> Exxon, wubi isn't a proper alternative to an real ubuntu install
[17:37] <Dj_FlyBy> I am having some issues with Ubuntu 10.04 freezing during bootup now that I activated a restricted driver for my ATI Radeon HD3450. Any suggestions to fix this please?
[17:37] <L3d> someone care to explain why i dont have a linux kernel 13.0.0. bla installed ,this didnt show in the console update
[17:37] <Madkiss> argl. LVM support is not included in the default installation image?
[17:37] <Madkiss> jesus christ.
[17:37] <oCean> Madkiss: control your language here, please
[17:38] <pfifo> Madkiss, nope, you need the alternate installer
[17:38] <soltani> ubottu, I want to install Windows 7,I have ubuntu and I want to make bootable usb,Because my cdrom does not works
[17:38] <oCean> L3d: ubuntu does not provide latest, for oneiric it's <IP_ADDRESS>.15 currently
[17:38] <soltani> pfifo, I want install windows 7
[17:38] <Exxon> soltani, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[17:38] <pfifo> soltani, follow the links that ubottu gave you
[17:38] <L3d> dont have any installed ,isnt that weird
[17:38] <HQRaja> BTW look into YUMI too if you want to setup multiple OS installation discs on a single USB flash drive
[17:39] <Barbariandude> Hi guys. I'm trying to convert my entire music library from .mp3 to .ogg in command line. How can I change this to cd into each folder and convert the contents inside each as well?   for x in *.mp3; do ffmpeg -i "$x" "`basename "$x" .mp3`.ogg"; done
[17:39] <HQRaja> Google for YUMI...should be the first result
[17:39] <Madkiss> oCean: oh, so begging for god's mercy is forbidden in here?
[17:39] <soltani> pfifo, I want install windows 7, It makes bootable usb to install ubuntu
[17:39] <oCean> Madkiss: no swearing here. Try to keep the channel family friendly and professional.
[17:39] <sam22> praise the lord!! Madkiss
[17:39] <oCean> sam22: please move on
[17:40] <Exxon> BluesKaj, i accept but is only for testing and to along ..not entirely too far but can accomadate give the user experience that he require.
[17:40] <pfifo> soltani, I can only provide support for installing ubuntu
[17:40] <Madkiss> oCean: yeahright.
[17:40] <oCean> thanks
[17:40] <HQRaja> soltani: You currently have Ubuntu installed and you want to add a Windows 7 installation?
[17:40] <sam22> i'm a believer
[17:40] <overdub> Barbariandude: for x in $(find . -type f -name "*mp3"); do . . .
[17:40] <BluesKaj> soltani, ask in ##windows
[17:40] <oCean> sam22: that's not on topic here
[17:40] <Madkiss> oCean: Lemme guess, you're from the US? :)
[17:41] <oCean> Madkiss: nope, I'm a channel operator
[17:41] <sam22> where is the freedom of experssion oCean
[17:41] <oCean> sam22: not in IRC
[17:41] <L3d> ok so is two lone swordsmen actually i am kloot ?? heh
[17:41] <soltani> Exactly Horaja
[17:41] <L3d> thnx pps
[17:41] <Barbariandude> overdub, and that will go through each folder?
[17:41] <sam22> GOD be with yee everyone !!!
[17:41] <Madkiss> oCean: That's great, could I get your real name pretty please? And ... what role do you have in Ubuntu / Canonical?
[17:41] <sam22> o/
[17:41] <BluesKaj> sam freedom of expression doesn't include offending others
[17:41] <L3d> Available version: 3.0.0-14.23
[17:41] <sam22> i'm leavig
[17:41] <BluesKaj> sam22,^
[17:42] <L3d> why !!
[17:42] <overdub> Barbariandude: will find all files of type file, and name *mp3
[17:42] <HQRaja> BTW installing Windows 7 will mess up the bootloader and you won't be able to boot into Ubuntu...you must then install grub again and configure it to boot Windows/Ubuntu
[17:42] <oCean> Madkiss: not discussing that here, you can /join #ubuntu-ops if you want to
[17:42] <soltani> HQRaja, Exactly
[17:42] <overdub> Barbariandude: in all subdirectories unless -maxdepth is given
[17:43] <Canadian1296> pfifo, still there?
[17:44] <pfifo> Canadian1296, yeah
[17:44] <L3d> linux header are at 13.0.-14 ?
[17:44] <Night-hacks> does anyone knows gconf-editor modifies which config file ?
[17:44] <Canadian1296> pfifo, it worked beautifully. Now i boot and get a login prompt, and it'll only take to root pass i gave it. Thank you so much  :D
[17:44] <HQRaja> soltani: I believe it can be done...just install Windows 7 on another partition. You will then have to boot into Ubuntu using a Live CD and find a way to install only the bootloader without installing Ubuntu again
[17:45] <L3d> oCean, linux header now are at 13.0.0.-14 ??
[17:45] <pfifo> Canadian1296, cool, ill have tro take note of the method for next time
[17:45] <oCean> L3d: what?
[17:45] <HQRaja> I haven't done that but that's how it should work in theory. I've myself installed Windows 7 first, and then let Ubuntu installation take care of the bootloader management the way it does
[17:45] <L3d> the newest version is at <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[17:45] <soltani> HQRaja, I now have ubuntu
[17:45] <Canadian1296> Well i modified it a bit… Ill send what i did to you directly
[17:45] <Medjai> Is there a way to switch default bindings for workspace switching from from ctrl+alt+arrow left/right to just alt+arow left/right?
[17:45] <pfifo> ok
[17:46] <soltani> HQRaja, Is there a way to build bootloader in ubuntu
[17:46] <L3d> ok so what does grub do ??
[17:46] <Barbariandude> overdub, for x in $(find . -type f -name "*mp3"); do ffmpeg -i "$x" "`basename "$x" .mp3`.ogg"; done <--- isn't working, says invalid directory. Do I need to include the working directory in ffmpeg or something?
[17:47] <xdccFriend_[8452> !ciao
[17:47] <xdccFriend_[8452> !lista
[17:47] <HQRaja> soltani: You have Ubuntu now...use the Windows 7 installation CD to install Windows 7 on another partition (assuming you already have an empty partition...if you don't, make one using GParted). Once you have installed Windows 7, you won't be able to boot into Ubuntu but just use the Ubuntu Live CD or USB to boot, and then install only grub (I don't know how to do that though i.e. install only grub)
[17:47] <HQRaja> I hope that long message got across completely....in case it got cut off somewhere, lemme know and I'll paste the rest.
[17:47] <L3d> oCean, how come i have no version installed and it says linux-kernel and headers vesion at <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[17:48] <soltani> HQRaja, but problem is my CdROm was broken!
[17:48] <L3d> u say some other version is the newest ,im confussed
[17:48] <A|i3N> is there an *easy* way to set up a shared network drive on an SSH accessible box?
[17:48] <HQRaja> soltani: Your WIndows 7 CD ROM?
[17:48] <Barbariandude> HQRaja, it's sudo grub-install in terminal, if I remember right
[17:48] <A|i3N> maybe a guide of some sort i could follow
[17:48] <Guest36322> i have a question about power supplys does anybody know anything about them?
[17:48] <L3d> gues were talking stable "
[17:48] <ScramTech> What's the question Guest?
[17:48] <HQRaja> Barbariandude: I see...and it'll install grub even if done after booting from the Live CD/USB?
[17:48] <Barbariandude> !anyone | Guest36322
[17:49] <pfifo> A|i3N, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[17:49] <Barbariandude> HQRaja, yup
[17:49] <Radium> Guys I've tried playing NaCl games like 'Bastion' and 'Pocket legends' but they keep saying there's problems with my graphics card not supporting OpenGL. I just got my new Lenovo H330 computer with an i5  intel proccesor. Does Ubuntu not support it or something?
[17:49] <soltani> HQRaja, No my CdRom which read cd and dvds!
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> naCl is kitchen salt
[17:49] <overdub> Barbariandude: could be a few different things. hard to trouble shoot a one liner in chat room. try echo $x to see if you're getting a list of mp3 files
[17:49] <L3d> i can check on updates /changelog on-line but id rathe ask here ,y"know
[17:49] <A|i3N> Ahah thank you Pfifo
[17:49] <HQRaja> Barbariandude: I see...thanks =)
[17:49] <Barbariandude> Radium, i5s use optimus tech, get ironhide, google it
[17:50] <HQRaja> soltani: Oh OK...your CD Drive, you mean. You can easily make Windows 7 bootable USB. Wait, lemme get you the link for that.
[17:50] <Guest36322> if you have a 1000 watt power supply but you system only uses or needs about 720 watts is the 1000 watt pulling 1000 watts out of the wall
[17:50] <soltani> HQRaja, yes , I make mistake .CD Drive! ;)
[17:50] <Guest36322> or does it only pull what it needs
[17:50] <Radium> Barbariandude You'll have to explain that a little further?
[17:50] <Guest36322> ?
[17:50] <pfifo> Guest36322, no, it will onyl use 720
[17:51] <gigglefight> quickquestion: ppc g4 macmini non-intel or non-amd processor which ubuntu would be best for me?
[17:51] <BluesKaj> Guest36322, no , the PSU will only pull what is deamded by the pcs hardware , no more no less
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> !best| gigglefight
[17:51] <webnet> Guest36322, sort of. it actually only pulls 120 volts at 115 which it converts to 1000 watts inside the psu
[17:51] <HQRaja> soltani: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/ (it works with creating Live USB for Linux as well as Windows, but for Windows, make sure you read the 'Very Important' section of that page)
[17:51] <Barbariandude> Radium, you need this: https://launchpad.net/~mj-casalogic/+archive/ironhide
[17:51] <ScramTech> no Guest.. it only draws what it needs.  Can easily measure draw with a cheap KillAWatt  http://www.amazon.com/P3-International-P4460-Electricity-Monitor/dp/B000RGF29Q
[17:51]  * Guest36603 nicole
[17:52] <Guest36603> hello there
[17:52] <HQRaja> soltani: It's a Windows app unfortunately, so you must use either WINE (not sure if it'll work well in WINE or not) or preferably, use some friend's Windows PC to run it.
[17:52] <Guest36322> so its not pulling a 1000 watts it can though pull up to a 1000 watts right
[17:52] <L3d> ok sudo apt-get update ,dint install linux-renel and headers how come ?
[17:52] <BluesKaj> I wish you Guest guys would choose a real nick
[17:52] <BluesKaj> Guest36322, yes
[17:52] <Radium> Barbariandude Ah thanks I'll add that PPA. Which packages do I need to install from it?
[17:52] <webnet> Guest36322, sort of. it actually only pulls 120 volts at 115watts which it converts to 1000 watts inside the psu. but it will only serve out what it needs inside the computer. if the psu is a 10,000 watter, and the mobo is a 200 watter it will only server out 200 watts
[17:52] <L3d> do /nick wit a cool name ;)
[17:52] <gigglefight> @ubottu: thank you; need link for site with distros form selections, like a form that will narrow down the distros.
[17:52] <``PeeR> ll
[17:53] <webnet> Guest36322, hope that helps
[17:53] <Barbariandude> Radium, Basically, whats going on is that the laptop uses graphics switching to swap between onboard and card graphics. Nvidia never released how it works, so thats a bit of inventive reverse engineering. The package is called ironhide
[17:53] <Guest36322> cool becuse thats what i thought just was not sure exactly
[17:53] <semba> sam22 if you re still there I still need your help as I did reboot but my 2nd monitor still won't work: it turned on when my laptop restarted but said no signal just as my normal screen (the laptop one) displayed the login window
[17:53] <``PeeR> test
[17:53] <``PeeR> grmbl
[17:53] <HQRaja> soltani: Once you have installed Windows, just boot into Ubuntu using a Ubuntu Live USB and run 'sudo grub-install' from terminal (as Barbariandude suggested), and you'll have the bootloader working for dual-boot
[17:53] <webnet> semba, sam22 isnt on right now. i may be able to hel you tho, whats going on?
[17:54] <Radium> Barbariandude Ah okay thanks I'll install it now
[17:54] <HQRaja> I suggest you use YUMI to get both Ubuntu and Windows 7 on the same USB for installation and live CD use
[17:54] <L3d> oCean, did u make a mistake saying its version <IP_ADDRESS> ? cause i get <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:54] <Guest36603> hei, am new for linux :D
[17:54] <oCean> !info linux-image-generic
[17:54] <oCean> ^L3
[17:54] <oCean> ^L3d
[17:54] <webnet> Guest36603, Welcome to the community! :)
[17:54] <Guest36322> ya i was almost going to buy a new power supply because i thought that my 1000 watts was using to much power but it only uses what it needs another reason is because i cant use my backup battery with my system because it draws to much juice
[17:54] <Guest36603> anyone help me?
[17:55] <gigglefight> thank you! laters!
[17:55] <webnet> Guest36603, Welcome to the community what do you need?
[17:55] <L3d> than why does it keep showing up at a version ..14 , is this 3rd party software i included ?
[17:55] <Mazerooo> ciao
[17:56] <semba> ok I want to set up a 2nd monitor for my laptop so I plugged it in as I used to do with windows but nothing happened. Sam22 told me to reboot which I did and my 2nd monitor did turn on together with my lamptop but said no signal when I got the login page to Ubuntu
[17:56] <webnet> semba ok are you on 10.x or 11.x
[17:56] <Guest36322> i was think of getting a 750 watt thinking it would draw less juice but since my 1000 watt power supply only draws what it needs then theres no point
[17:56] <soltani> HQRaja, Is there another way?
[17:56] <semba> 11.10 I think
[17:56] <semba> (very new to Linux)
[17:56] <webnet> ok so unity? semba?
[17:57] <soltani> HQRaja, ...
[17:57] <L3d> so when i install a 20A hd-fan over a prev 0.09A does it matter ?
[17:57] <domedagen1> I was thinking about getting a SSD to Ubuntu but read a lot about the importance of updating firmware
[17:57] <Exxon> semba, it works with windows not with ubuntu..colclusion xorg is modified to your laptop sepecification not the monitor you attach later
[17:57] <ScramTech> 20 Amp fan?!?
[17:57] <domedagen1> Linux is often left behind when it comes to updates
[17:57] <webnet> semba are you using unity or gnome?
[17:57] <Guest36322> and your saying it actully only draws 120 volts and converts it to 1000 watts?
[17:57] <FrozenFire> Is there a PPA somewhere for the 3.1 kernel?
[17:57] <``PeeR> someone is with weechat here?
[17:57] <Neil> hello does anyone know anything about programming stacks on netbeans
[17:57] <L3d> yup
[17:58] <domedagen1> What do you think about a SSD to Linux?
[17:58] <semba> webnet: that name does ring a bell but is there a way to double check?
[17:58] <amin`> what are the choices  of notification daemons?????
[17:58] <``PeeR> L3d: what's the command to change the color of your nick ?
[17:58] <semba> ok gnome
[17:58] <Guest36322> i dont think ssd is stable memory
[17:58] <L3d> when i turn on my "pc" it goes really fast after4 that i dont know
[17:58] <pfifo> ScramTech, a 20 amp 240v fan
[17:58] <amin`> i know xfce4-notifyd what else?
[17:58] <A|i3N> someone refresh my  memory on the tool i use to find the ip's on my network?
[17:59] <Neil> Please help me with with programming
[17:59] <L3d> that good sir i dont knwo
[17:59] <webnet> Guest36322, yes essentially. american outlets use 120 volts at 115 watts and 150 ohms, eutope uses 240 volts at 130 watts ant200 ohms the psu actually works like an adapter
[17:59] <Guest36322> how do i change my nick?
[17:59] <L3d> know
[17:59] <``PeeR> Guest36322: /nick yournick
[17:59] <Barbariandude> overdub, found the problem, spaces are messing with it, how do I escape over spaces?
[17:59] <webnet> semba. top left of you screen. just a ubuntu symbol, or 3 menus Applications | Places | System
[17:59] <BluesKaj> Guest36322, 120vX15a=1800watts
[17:59] <Neil> does anyone know anything about programming in here?
[17:59] <airtonix> probably
[17:59] <airtonix> !ask | Neil
[18:00] <webnet> Neil what language?
[18:00] <L3d> guest use /nick NAME "
[18:00] <ImTheDude> cool
[18:00] <``PeeR> hey the dude ;)
[18:00] <L3d> name being yours ehh
[18:00] <overdub> Barbariandude: maybe replace all spaces with underscores?
[18:00] <``PeeR> He's just... The dude, you know :P
[18:00] <Neil> Webnet its on java for netbeans
[18:00]  * overdub hates spaces in file names
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> the dude, the big lebowski
[18:00] <``PeeR> yeah
[18:00] <webnet> ok so what do you need Neil?
[18:00] <trism> amin`: your other two main options are notify-osd and notification-daemon (gnome-shell also has a built-in notification daemon, but you really need to use gnome-shell for it)
[18:00] <``PeeR> MonkeyDust: how did you make your nick orange?!
[18:00] <semba> webnet: that's gnome
[18:00] <webnet> semba, you still with me?
[18:01] <semba> yep I just replied gnome
[18:01] <webnet> sembo. wow pressed enter at same time. haha
[18:01] <Barbariandude> overdub, it's a large music library. Sure there's no way to prefix detected spaces with \ ?
[18:01] <L3d> big lebowski ,get of my beach property !! :p
[18:01] <webnet> ok so then semba go to the system menu > Preferances > Monitors
[18:01] <amin`> trism: nice; very nice answer. really thanks YOUU ROCKK
[18:02] <L3d> so i gues putting back a (broke) 0.09a disk fan will work better ?
[18:02] <Neil> i have to create a stack and a queue and i have a button created called push that is meant to create a retangle when i push it and then it has to push some text into it and everytime i push it it moves a rectangle down and replaces it with the next one with text in it and i cannot get my action listener on the button to create the rectangle
[18:02] <L3d> does the sudo apt-get update install linux headers also ?
[18:03] <L3d> there not provided normaly so i gues not .. than how come i need them now "?
[18:03] <semba> i m in a system monitor menu
[18:03] <semba> is that ok?
[18:03] <amin`> trism:  whic one is better ; good looker
[18:04] <L3d> i gues the newest version isnt updated ,maybe later ?
[18:04] <ImTheDude> so eveybody agrees that 1000 watt power supply is only going to pull what it needs
[18:04] <webnet> Neil, ok that question is more geared towards the ubuntu java channel #ubuntu-java check there they will be able to give you better advice
[18:04] <pfifo> ImTheDude, its impossible for energy to just disappear
[18:04] <BluesKaj> ImTheDude, yes
[18:05] <Neil> thank u
[18:05] <L3d> i dont freakin get it ,my hd-fan pulls like 20 ,will it? ,i keep getting the indicator lights saying its broke
[18:05] <webnet> ok semba do you see a detect monitors button?
[18:05] <MeQuerSat> ImTheDude, a 1000 watt psu will take more energy from the wall under low loads
[18:05] <webnet> Neil, No prob hope you find what you need :)
[18:05] <MeQuerSat> for example: the efficiency for a 1000 watt maybe be a great deal lower @ 100 watt than for a 500 watt psu
[18:05] <BluesKaj> pfifo, it turns into heat if it's not used , class A audio amps for example
[18:05] <ImTheDude> what does that mean
[18:05] <L3d> its difficult finding a 0.09a fan these days ..
[18:06] <MeQuerSat> that means that if you just browse the web, a 1000 watt psu will consume more energy than a 500 watt psu
[18:06] <pfifo> BluesKaj, no it turns into heat when it IS used
[18:06] <Exxon> semba, http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/08/ubuntu-tips-how-to-setup-dual-monitor/
[18:06] <semba> nope I have 4 tabs which are system, processes, resources and file systems
[18:06] <meco> What's wrong with this line in /etc/fstab: "uuid=E6B08D1CB08CF479 /mnt/windows ntfs"
[18:06] <ImTheDude> is my pg and e going to be worse
[18:06] <ImTheDude> buy alot
[18:07] <webnet> good call Exxon! semba check there
[18:07] <BluesKaj> pfifo,ever own a a class A audio amp, if you did you'd know I was joking :)
[18:07] <L3d> trhe big space thingy in the midle .. you have headers for tht
[18:07] <trism> amin`: I think notify-osd looks the best, but it is lacking some features of notification-daemon (like being able to close notifications)
[18:07] <MeQuerSat> meco: you need to make it UUID
[18:07] <webnet> semba you should be in a monitor preferences window
[18:07] <HQRaja> Is it OK to completely remove Thunderbird if I am never going to need it?
[18:07] <pfifo> BluesKaj, no
[18:07] <ImTheDude> is it that big of a deal to wher i have to but a lower watt power supply?
[18:07] <HQRaja> Or is it required for something in the background?
[18:08] <semba> i m now in a Displays menu with a detect displays button
[18:08] <MeQuerSat> meco: you also need two extra numbers, one for pass and one for dump: UUID=E6B08D1CB08CF479 /mnt/windows ntfs 0 2
[18:08] <Radium> Barbariandude: Okay I installed that package and restarted. I tried one of the NaCl games and it worked! But I've also tried two others and they still don't work.
[18:08] <pfifo> ImTheDude, its not going to waste all that much energy, it wont be worth buying a NEW power supply for
[18:08] <L3d> i have the black border around my window and scalling makes it better but in games i can sti;ll see the diffrance in colour like the border is still there ..
[18:08] <ImTheDude> im i really going to save that much PG and E to buy a 750 watt and take out my 1000 watt?
[18:09] <meco> ok, I'll make another try.
[18:09] <amin`> trism: but it closes itself?  and about the both; any form of configuration?
[18:09] <MeQuerSat> meco: Try this line: UUID=E6B08D1CB08CF479 /mnt/windows ntfs defaults 0 2
[18:09] <Barbariandude> Radium, those are working on your onboard graphics. To use card graphics, you need to prefix the run command with 'optirun'
[18:09] <meco> ok
[18:09] <ScramTech> depending on the efficiency rating of the PSU, the extra draw will be negligable
[18:09] <MeQuerSat> meco: I would also use the ntfs-3g driver instead
[18:09] <MeQuerSat> meco: so replace ntfs with ntfs-3g
[18:09] <meco> ok!
[18:10] <MeQuerSat> :)
[18:10] <ImTheDude> scramtech what does that mean
[18:10] <Radium> Barbariandude: But I don't have any graphics card present in the computer. I wanted to use the built in CPU ones.
[18:10] <L3d> ok ill get back at this say ow tomarow ,laters pps
[18:10] <ScramTech> Dude: it means you need to go read up on how PSU's actually work, and how they are rated.  :)
[18:10] <meco> I read somewhere that ntfs-3g might have to be installed first. I'm using 11.10. Should I check for that?
[18:10] <L3d> not going to install stuff i dont have allready , mean updates :p
[18:10] <ImTheDude> would you buy a 750 watt and over a 1000 watt if the 1000 watt was cheeper?
[18:10] <Barbariandude> Radium, oh, then it's working as intended. What errors are the other 2 spitting out?
[18:10] <trism> amin`: notify-osd has hardly any configuration, I believe notification-daemon is pretty configurable but I haven't used it in a while
[18:11] <MeQuerSat> meco: you can do a simple "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g" in the terminal
[18:11] <pfifo> meco, ubuntu comes with ntfs-3g by default, you dont need to install anything
[18:11] <meco> Ah, ok
[18:11] <MeQuerSat> ImTheDude, go to ##hardware they love talking about this
[18:11] <webnet> ok semba did it detect your second monitor?
[18:11] <semba> I m sorry I cann't get to that monitor preferenceswindow!
[18:12] <MeQuerSat> pfifo, thanks, didnt know that yet :)
[18:12] <L3d> updating thru the console ,and finding updates in update amnager is really weird ,how come these differe ?
[18:12] <webnet> semba y not?
[18:12] <ImTheDude> what ever i have another question
[18:12] <L3d> r diffrent
[18:12] <ScramTech> Dude: I would buy what my system requires to operate.  I would buy more than what my calculations require for stable operation of the system.  I would be more concerned about stable system than if it costs me $1 a month to run it.  :)
[18:12] <Neil> is there anyone here who knows about java there was no on in the java chat room
[18:12] <L3d> upgrade makes em install right ?
[18:13] <ScramTech> dude:  use this http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp  then buy what is required
[18:13] <ImTheDude> whats a good board that dont use alot of juice?
[18:13] <Radium> One entitled 'Angrybots' shows a loading bar that freezes. The other 'Bastion' that says it requires and OpenGL compatable graphics card and I should check that I've got a compatible graphics card with the latest drivers
[18:13] <MeQuerSat> ScramTech, let him go to ##hardware
[18:13] <MeQuerSat> this is #ubuntu
[18:13] <ScramTech> mequeresat: agreed
[18:13] <webnet> semba, pm me so we can avoid all the clutter out here
[18:13] <L3d> thats what i just said ,anywho
[18:14] <Radium> Barbariandude I'm going to have to go AFK for a moment I'll notify you of my arrival. Won't be a minute.
[18:15] <semba> cann't find it ! I mean I don't see anythingcalled preferences anywhere, but I installed Linux yesterday, not really comfortable with it now
[18:15] <``PeeR> well...
[18:16] <``PeeR> 20 minutes to find that orange is brown here... lol
[18:16] <ScramTech> I need some help installing a Highpoint RocketRAID 2640x4 on Ubuntu Server v11.10.  Highpoint website provides pre-made RPM drivers for v10.10, but Google searches indicate there are issues with those.  They also provide Open Source Drivers for linux kernel v2.4.x and v2.6.x but apparently I'll have to add those as a kernel module.  Highpoint docs are terrible.  Was hoping for native support in kernel on v11.10 but doesn't appear to b
[18:16] <MahaVishnu> ScramTech, RPM is for redhat ubuntu is .DEB
[18:17] <ScramTech> I know, I'd have to convert them
[18:17] <ImTheDude> ya thats cool
[18:17] <MeQuerSat> I think he gets that, MahaVishnu
[18:17] <ScramTech> regardless, other people say don't use them
[18:17] <urlin2u> semba, do you have a panel on the left sidee of the screen?
[18:17] <urlin2u> side
[18:17] <pfifo> ScramTech, i would build the open source module
[18:17] <MahaVishnu> MeQuerSat, he said rpm drivers for 10.10 so I wasn't sure....
[18:17] <Dj_FlyBy> I am having some issues with Ubuntu 10.04 freezing during bootup now that I activated a restricted driver for my ATI Radeon HD3450. Any suggestions to fix this please?
[18:17] <Exxon> ``PeeR, orange ??
[18:17] <meco> Whats wrong with this line in /etc/fstab: "UUID=E6B08D1CB08CF479 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 2"
[18:17] <MahaVishnu> MeQuerSat, Do you have to build the module from source? it might not be that hard. then getting the module in to the kernel is ez.
[18:17] <MahaVishnu> oops ^ scramtech
[18:18] <MeQuerSat> meco: did you use quotes in the file too?
[18:18] <ScramTech> pfifo: yeah, figured that's what I'd have to do... am not finding any guides for that.  I'm making the switch from windows world to linux.  Just have alot of reading to do. :)
[18:18] <meco> no
[18:18] <MeQuerSat> meco: did you reboot already?
[18:18] <GoD> Bonsoir
[18:18] <meco> yes
[18:18] <pfifo> ScramTech, building kernel modules is pretty easy, the package should come with instructions
[18:19] <MeQuerSat> meco: can you copy the output of "sudo blkid" to pastebin.com ?
[18:19] <meco> ok
[18:20] <ScramTech> pfifo:  highpoint docs are -horrible-.  English is definitely not their native language  ;)
[18:20] <urlin2u> meco, if you run blkid does is the uuid the same?
[18:20] <urlin2u> does=is
[18:20] <Exxon> pfifo, download from source has instructions with it..only should know to compile it
[18:20] <MeQuerSat> urlin2u, thats what Im trying to see ;)
[18:21] <pfifo> ScramTech, well usually you just have to install build-essential and linux-headers, and then run make insider the source directory, this should build a module.ko file
[18:21] <meco> urlin2u: yes
[18:21] <meco> MeQuerSat: http://pastebin.com/ksNEWSs8
[18:22] <MeQuerSat> meco: what happens if you do "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows" ?
[18:22] <Exxon> ScramTech, can you share what are you trying to compile
[18:23] <pfifo> Exxon, Highpoint RocketRAID 2640x4
[18:23] <meco> MeQuerSat:Nothingm apparently
[18:23] <ScramTech> exxon:  sure, one moment
[18:23] <MeQuerSat> can you do "nautilus /mnt/windows" and create a folder in it?
[18:23] <ScramTech> this is link to highpoint page, open source driver at bottom  http://www.highpoint-tech.com/BIOS_Driver/page/rr2640.htm
[18:23] <KiiK> Hi, apt-get keeping try unsuccessful installation. how can I stop it
[18:24] <Radium> Barbariandude Sorry I'm back now. What's going wrong do you think?
[18:24] <MeQuerSat> ScramTech, I already see a Ubuntu 10.10 version of the driver there, why compile?
[18:24] <meco> MeQuerSat: It just returns me to the prompt without mounting, at least not at that point
[18:24] <Exxon> pfifo, now you have a good idea what is the matter ; don't we
[18:25] <Barbariandude> Radium, no clue, which is why I asked what errors you're getting
[18:25] <MeQuerSat> meco: so you cant mount it?
[18:25] <ScramTech> well, from doing research on google, it seems there are errors with those v10.10 drivers
[18:25] <pfifo> Exxon, how so?
[18:25] <MeQuerSat> I should give them a try nonetheless, ScramTech
[18:26] <ScramTech> If you think they'll actually work, I could give them a shot... just don't want to hose up a new install
[18:26] <meco> MeQuerSat: I was able to mount it with that nautilus command
[18:26] <Shizuo16> hello all
[18:26] <MeQuerSat> meco: so you can create a folder or file in /mnt/windows ?
[18:27] <meco> yes
[18:27] <Shizuo16> How can i install my dvd driver !!
[18:27] <Exxon> ScramTech, raid cannot simply detect from the software you installed its the bios as you know additional hdd cannot simply detect it self ...but comes to bios at last i would not suggest any thing there..
[18:27] <MeQuerSat> Shizuo16, its already installed ;)
[18:28] <MeQuerSat> meco: then what is the problem?
[18:28] <Shizuo16> well i can't find it in /media
[18:28] <ScramTech> Exxon:  sorry, I don't follow.  You suggest that I do not use anything from that highpoint webpage?
[18:28] <amin`> right now ubuntu and lubuntu use right now ? notify-osd or notification-daemon?
[18:28] <GS_iPanda> hello, i am having an issue getting ubunto to boot from the dvd. says it can't find a "live" file.
[18:28] <meco> MeQuerSat: I want to avoid nautilus since that somewhat defeats my purpose of running with openbox
[18:29] <MeQuerSat> Shizuo16, do "sudo mkdir /media/cdrom && sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom"
[18:29] <Radium> Barbariandude oops I said that before but I forgot to include your name so you probably didn't see it.
[18:30] <Radium> One entitled 'Angrybots' shows a loading bar that freezes. The other 'Bastion' that says it requires and OpenGL compatable graphics card and I should check that I've got a compatible graphics card with the latest drivers
[18:30] <Exxon> ScramTech, if the pc is a server it has raid capabilities built in the bios to detect if extended then you have to configure in the bios itself that could be..
[18:30] <MeQuerSat> meco: if you now run "sudo umount /mnt/windows && sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows" from the terminal
[18:30] <MeQuerSat> what happens?
[18:30] <Barbariandude> Radium, yeah, that is a bit of a problem in high-use channels like this
[18:30] <i_is_broke> does ubuntu have a program to let me use my webcam as a security cam?
[18:31] <ScramTech> exxon:  I was hoping there was built in support for the raid controller.  I guess I just don't know how to enable it.  I had assumed if there was built in support, the controller would be detected during installation.
[18:31] <webnet> anyone know an updated command for gnome-display-properties in 11.X it seems in unity the gnome monitor properties no longer apply. anyone know A fix/updated command?
[18:31] <endure> i_is_broke: motion
[18:31] <Radium> Barbariandude Before installing ironside 'pocket legends' didn't work at all. Now that it is installed it sometimes works when starting it up. Other times it says your graphics card failed to inilitze
[18:32] <kasii> hi
[18:32] <i_is_broke> endure, ty
[18:32] <meco> MeQuerSat: Then I cannot see anything in /mnt/windows from the terminal view
[18:32] <kasii> webnet hi
[18:32] <endure> i_is_broke: np
[18:32] <pfifo> Exxon, its probably a fakeraid, otherwise he wouldnt need drivers at all
[18:32] <kasii> webnet  tsup
[18:32] <MeQuerSat> meco: can you do "cd /mnt/windows && mkdir ./test_dir && ls" ?
[18:32] <Shizuo16> No MEdia Found in /dev/sr0
[18:33] <artur> sorry mistake
[18:33] <webnet> hey kasii!
[18:33] <Exxon> ScramTech, bios show all the hardware that the system has..let us know you system i think you over extended then you have to change the psu for additional power to detect it
[18:33] <Barbariandude> Radium, can you put your /etc/xorg.conf on pastebin for me?
[18:33] <MeQuerSat> Shizuo16, can you output "ls /dev/" to pastebin.com ?
[18:33] <kasii> how do you do webnet
[18:33] <meco> MeQuerSat: Now I see stuff
[18:33] <MeQuerSat> meco: so it works
[18:34] <Shizuo16> didnt understand
[18:34] <GS_iPanda> can't get ubunto to boot from the dvd. says it can't find a "live" file. anyone know what i need to do?
[18:34] <Radium> Barbariandude No such file is present
[18:34] <pfifo> ScramTech, it took me a whole 30 seconds to build that module
[18:34] <ScramTech> well I used lshw and the output did not indicate it knew about the raid controller at all... the PC used to be a windows server and the raid controller worked fine there (after driver install of course)
[18:34] <meco> MeQuerSat: something works, I'll have to check something else also
[18:34] <trism> amin`: ubuntu-desktop depends on notify-osd, it doesn't look like lubuntu has a default notification daemon
[18:34] <tekoholic> OK, so nobody running batman-adv?  How about 802.11s?
[18:34] <MeQuerSat> Shizuo16, well, run "ls /dev/" from a terminal and copy the output to a website called www.pastebin.com
[18:34] <ScramTech> well pfifo, I'd be forever grateful if you could link me info on how to do the procedure... I'm a windows guy making the switch to the linux world  :)
[18:35] <``PeeR> ScramTech: welcome in the club ;)
[18:35] <Shizuo16> ok
[18:35] <ScramTech> peer:  n00b all over again :D
[18:35] <Barbariandude> Radium, that's pretty much impossible... how are you trying to get it? with "gedit /../../etc/xorg.conf"?
[18:35] <``PeeR> ScramTech: come from ?
[18:35] <MeQuerSat> GS_iPanda, you probably need to burn the CD again (make sure to use a low speed setting, so it wont make any mistakes)
[18:35] <Sivik> anyone ever set up a VPN server using pptp in ubuntu?  I have it running but when a computer is attempting to register, it fails.
[18:35] <endure> i_is_broke: Its a nice little app that can take input from more than one usb cams
[18:35] <pfifo> ScramTech, pastebin the output of `lsb_release -a ; uname -a`
[18:36] <GS_iPanda> k
[18:36] <Radium> Barbariandude When installing ironside I prompted me to select a model. I think I may have selected 'Acer' by accident. I'm pretty such I didn't though. How can I go back and check that?
[18:36] <ScramTech> roger that pfifo... one moment
[18:36] <MeQuerSat> GS_iPanda, Are you using the 64bit version of Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[18:36] <Jordan_U> !fakeraid | ScramTech
[18:37] <Sivik> dr_willis, you around?
[18:37] <Neil> anyone good with java here?
[18:37] <meco> Are there any file managers that give me full file names but do not invoke gnome when started from openbox?
[18:37] <Jordan_U> ScramTech: And if you didn't already know, what you have is FakeRAID rather than true hardware RAID.
[18:38] <Shizuo16>  can't
[18:38] <MeQuerSat> meco: maybe thunar?
[18:38] <ivan__> првет народ
[18:38] <meco> Ok.. I'll check it
[18:38] <Neil> anyone know anything about stacks in java?
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> !ru| ivan__
[18:38] <Exxon> ScramTech, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[18:38] <``PeeR> !russian ivan__
[18:38] <ScramTech> Jordan_u: from my understanding the HighPoint RocketRAID 2640x4 is a true raid controller, not a fake on-mobo "raid" controller
[18:39] <``PeeR> !ru| ivan__
[18:39] <ScramTech> pfifo:  pastbin  http://pastebin.com/uJLLSCCd
[18:39] <Jordan_U> ScramTech: Then it shouldn't need any additional drivers.
[18:39] <|Long|> on 11.10 where is terninal session?
  can't, what do you mean?
[18:40] <GS_iPanda> MeQuerSat, to be honest, i can't remember what the heck i downloaded now
[18:40] <``PeeR> |Long|: at the left of the screen, don't you have applications?
[18:40] <|Long|> i have application, but terminal not there
[18:40] <ScramTech> Jordan_U:  yeah... I wondered about that.  Regardless... I'm stuck with 3 of these, so need to get it working heh
[18:40] <MeQuerSat> GS_iPanda, well, it could be that the download was corrupt (reburning the cd wont help then)
[18:41] <pfifo> ScramTech, you are running linux kernel version 3, this code is made for linux kernels 2.4 and 2.6
[18:41] <Sivik> anyone good with VPN servers on here?
[18:41] <webnet> kasii, alright and you?
[18:41] <NEO30> WELCOME
[18:41] <kasii> fine webnet
[18:42] <nsaquatics> afternoon.
[18:42] <MeQuerSat> ScramTech, do you need the sata ports on the card?
[18:42] <ScramTech> pfifo: right... and the file dates are 2009 era... I was hoping that meant there is now native support for this controller
[18:42] <kasii> webnet lets  be private as yesterday
[18:42] <webnet> k
[18:42] <ScramTech> sorry 2010
[18:42] <pfifo> ScramTech, dose the drive show up as a /dev/sdXY
[18:42] <``PeeR> |Long|: try Alt+F2 and terminal...
[18:43] <ScramTech> pfifo: I have sda, sda1, sda2, sda5... my understanding is that those were for /, swap, lvm
[18:44] <pfifo> ScramTech, run this `sudo modprobe rr26xx`
[18:44] <Jordan_U> ScramTech: NewEgg says that you can get this type of "RAID Controller" for less than $10.00. That pretty much means it's FakeRAID.
[18:44] <nsaquatics> Does anybody here have a USB over ethernet setup on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS? I'm having problem compiling the driver.
[18:44] <ScramTech> pfifo: but if the controller doesn't even show up on the output of lshw, I don't think it's being seen
[18:44] <pfifo> ScramTech, can you pastebin the output of lspci
[18:44] <``PeeR> after you will right click on the terminal at the left and you'll have the option to keep it there
[18:45] <ScramTech> jordan_u: yes yes, thanks... regardless, I'm stuck with these controllers... have 4 1TB drives attached to them
[18:45] <ScramTech> pfifo: sure, one moment
[18:45] <MeQuerSat> nsaquatics, any specific building errors?
[18:45] <Jordan_U> ScramTech: Read the FakeRAID instructions from ubottu.
[18:45] <MeQuerSat> ScramTech, are all your mobo ports used? ;)
[18:45] <Tebyghenya> I need to convert many audio files at the same time. Focused in MP3 → OGG. Can you recommend me a converter?
[18:45] <nsaquatics> MeQuerSat, yes, let me dig it out..
[18:45] <meco> MeQuerSat: thunar seems fine
[18:45] <sailand> ds
[18:45] <sailand> ghbdtn
[18:45] <sailand> привевт
[18:45] <FloodBot1> sailand: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:45] <Nins_a> hey
[18:46] <MeQuerSat> Tebyghenya, any specific reason to convert MP3 to OGG?
[18:46] <``PeeR> |Long|: is it working?
[18:46] <ScramTech> pfifo: *shock* it shows up!  :)  http://pastebin.com/qChMNi0H
[18:46] <MeQuerSat> Tebyghenya, trancoding is not very beneficial for audio quality
[18:46] <GS_iPanda> MeQuerSat, i downloaded the 32 bit
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> OGG is free and lossless, or almost
[18:46] <Tebyghenya> MeQuerSat: or MP3 to FLAC. I need files in a open format.
[18:47] <Tebyghenya> MeQuerSat: no problem with that.
[18:47] <ScramTech> MeQuerSat: No.  Suggesting I move the drives over?
[18:47] <pfifo> ScramTech, well if the modprobe command failed, then your going to have to downgrade to a 2.6 kernel to continue
[18:47] <Q-collective> MonkeyDust: OGG Vorbis is a lossy format
[18:47] <ScramTech> pfifo: ugh.
[18:47] <blackbit> Tebyghenya, have you already googled?
[18:47] <MeQuerSat> Tebyghenya, you can use the command line version of LAME to decode the MP3 and then use flac or oggenc to encode to flac/ogg
[18:47] <MeQuerSat> thats what I use when converting
[18:48] <MeQuerSat> Tebyghenya, you could also open the Software Center and search for "sound converter"
[18:48] <Tebyghenya> blackbit: yeah, but only found video converters who do it one by one. I don't what to do that 20 times.
[18:48] <pankaj> hi everyone
[18:48] <``PeeR> I have a microsoft mouse... Is there some drivers for ubuntu :S ??
[18:48] <Cams> Is AAC an open format?
[18:48] <Tebyghenya> ok
[18:48] <Q-collective> ``PeeR: just plug it in?
[18:48] <blackbit> Tebyghenya, ok, so you basically need a batch converter
[18:48] <MeQuerSat> ScramTech, if the drives arent part of a RAID already, you can move them over
[18:48] <meco> Can I instruct another default file manager when I'm in openbox compared to when I'm booting up normal?
[18:49] <``PeeR> Q-collective: it's working but I have a frekign bug with it...
[18:49] <Q-collective> define "bug"
[18:49] <Exxon> ScramTech, MeQuerSat is absolutely right ..don't make fun here
[18:49] <ScramTech> pfifo/MeQuerSat:  so... sounds like the easy way to get these drives back online is to just get rid of the Highpoint controller and setup FakeRaid post-install.  :/
[18:49] <blackbit> Tebyghenya, as MeQuerSat said, Sound Converter also have batch processing (a lot of files at once)
[18:49] <``PeeR> Q-collective: scrolling up making the browser (or some other program) doing BACK instead of just scrolling up...
[18:49] <ScramTech> No, I'm not making fun at all
[18:50] <ekawithoutyou> find
[18:50] <ScramTech> was just hoping this controller "with linux support" would work for me lol
[18:50] <Q-collective> ``PeeR: have you looked in the mouse settings for anything unusual?
[18:50] <Tebyghenya> ok, thanks
[18:50] <MeQuerSat> Tebyghenya, you can also write a very simple bashscript to encode everything
[18:50] <ScramTech> only up-to-date drivers they have are for windows
[18:50] <pfifo> ScramTech, if there isnt any data on the drives you can setup a softraid, but beware, you cant access the softraid from windows
[18:50] <Tebyghenya> I don't know how to do that
[18:50] <meco> Can someone invite me to #openbox?
[18:50] <blackbit> MeQuerSat, if he is asking here, he would probably prefer the GUI of Sound Converter ;)
[18:50] <``PeeR> Q-collective: yup, I've tried all I found on forums... nothing to do.. may be i missed something or may be the computer need drivers...
[18:51] <Jordan_U> ScramTech: Unless you need to dual boot with Windows I would recommend just using plain Software RAID rather than bothering with FakeRAID. It will likely even be faster.
[18:51] <ScramTech> MeQuerSat/Jordan: yeah... this server is never going to have windows on it again, so no worries there
[18:51] <MeQuerSat> blackbit: I have actually made a similiar script a few days ago and found it to work easier than the GUI of SC
[18:51] <paulo_gomes> hi all
[18:51] <Q-collective> ``PeeR: Did the mouse have common issues? (ie other users having bugs with it too). What version of Ubuntu are you running? Dud the mouse ever work properly?
[18:51] <pfifo> ScramTech, then yeah, the softraid is easiest, you can mail me the fakeraid controller since you dont need it anymore
[18:51] <Jordan_U> ScramTech: For setting up Software RAID during install you'll need to use the alternate install CD.
[18:52] <ScramTech> thanks for the help gang... I'll dump the controller and move everything to mobo and give it a shot
[18:52] <Jordan_U> !alternate | ScramTech
[18:52] <ScramTech> pfifo: lol... yeah right
[18:52] <paulo_gomes> gvim doesn't work well with 11.10. anyone have some tips?
[18:52] <MeQuerSat> meco: to get into #openbox you need to have a registered account on IRC
[18:52] <MeQuerSat> meco: you can do that by typing this in your IRC client: /msg NickServ help
[18:52] <meco> Well, my nick is registered...
[18:52] <ScramTech> thanks ubottu
[18:53] <``PeeR> Q-collective: the bug is there since I've installed 10.04 and I have upgraded since this time up to 11.10 and the bug is always there... Some people had the bug but they change something in firefox and the resolved the trouble... Not me. The bug is not just on firefox
[18:53] <fr4nky> can you play daoc on ubuntu now?
[18:53] <MeQuerSat> meco: then Identify by using /msg nickserv identify
[18:53] <paulo_gomes> the letters disapear
[18:53] <pdtpatrick> paulo_gomes .. define work well. you just need to install vim-gtk and then from terminal, type gvim. It should load up fine
[18:53] <meco> Iæm already that
[18:53] <Q-collective> ``PeeR: which mouse is it exactly?
[18:53] <oCean> meco: use #freenode for support
[18:53] <meco> oCean: ok
[18:53] <Q-collective> ``PeeR: do other mouses work correctly?
[18:53] <paulo_gomes> pdtpatrick, the letters disapear
[18:54] <MeQuerSat> Jordan_U, I recall the ScramTech was running the server version of Ubuntu
[18:54] <``PeeR> Q-collective: microsoft intelimouse explorer 4.0A usb/ps2 compatible... (intelimouse my as*)
[18:54] <``PeeR> Q-collective: it works perfectly except the wheelup
[18:55] <paulo_gomes> pdtpatrick, i'm gonna take a screenshot, just a moment
[18:55] <Q-collective> ``PeeR: does the wheelup on other mouses work?
[18:55] <subman> I have created a link to a directory and can open it no problem when I'm on the physical machine.  If I log in over FTP from a remote machine, I try to open the directory and it says that it does not exist.  Is this normal?
[18:55] <``PeeR> oh ok Q-collective other mouse... sorry... I have no other mouse... lol not at home thought..
[18:55] <Jordan_U> MeQuerSat: ScramTech: Indeed, ignore my comment about the alternate install CD as it's the same installer as on the Server install CD.
[18:55] <pdtpatrick> paulo_gomes, you mean as you type, the letters are overwritten ? u sure u don't have insert mode on? u might have something turned that is causing that. Try doing what you are attempting in plain vim (terminal) .. see if u get the same results
[18:55] <paulo_gomes> pdtpatrick, vim in terminal works good
[18:55] <Q-collective> ``PeeR: right. It might be an issue with your computer's settings. We need to isolate that before saying the MS mouse is the root cause.
[18:55] <ScramTech> Jordan_u: no worries... I was wondering heheh.  If I just shut down the box and move the drives, will that suffice?  Or do I need to do a reinstall for detection?
[18:56] <meco> Apparently openbox doesn't have an irc channel, at least not on this network.
[18:56] <``PeeR> subman:  did you add the directory in shared dir in your ftp server?
[18:56] <jack-anton> bonsoir
[18:56] <fr4nky> how do i install ubu when im on win7?
[18:56] <MeQuerSat> ScramTech, that depends on the fact if the drives are in a RAID already or JBOD
[18:56] <pfifo> ScramTech, you can setup softraid by hand, but it might be easier todo it from the install CD
[18:56] <``PeeR> Q-collective: i agree... it won't be the first time I have a trouble with a MS mouse ...
[18:56] <``PeeR> Q-collective: ok thx I'll try another mouse
[18:56] <MeQuerSat> fr4nky, download the Ubuntu iso file, burn it to a cd, reboot and boot from the CD
[18:57] <ScramTech> they were in a raid under windows... figured they will have to be wiped
[18:57] <pdtpatrick> paulo_gomes, .. try reinstalling? sudo apt-get remove --purge vim-gtk  .. and sudo apt-get install vim-gtk  ... or just sudo dpkg --reconfigure vim-gtk
[18:57] <MeQuerSat> fr4nky, you can also install ubuntu from inside Windows (Google "wubi")
[18:57] <Q-collective> ``PeeR: ok, good
[18:57] <fr4nky> so i should dl and burn to cd and then install?
[18:57] <jack-anton> J'ai un problème quand je lance des jeux comme super tux ou minecraft
[18:57] <meco> Can I instruct another default file manager when I'm in openbox compared to when I'm booting up normal?
[18:57] <urlin2u> fr4nky, with wubi or a virtual
[18:57] <Joshun> hi
[18:57] <ScramTech> pfifo:  no worries... it's a fresh install... easier to do over that way until I learn more
[18:57] <Joshun> after kernel updates
[18:57] <``PeeR> !fr | jack-anton
[18:57] <jack-anton> ils se quittent au obut de quelquesz secondes
[18:57] <BluesKaj> 1wubi
[18:57] <Joshun> ubuntu doesn't boot
[18:57] <BluesKaj> !wubi
[18:57] <oCean> !google > MeQuerSat
[18:57] <abstrakt> how do I add system services?
[18:57] <Joshun> and i have to run update-initramfs.distrib each time
[18:57] <abstrakt> er, I mean on startup
[18:57] <MeQuerSat> oCean, no need to do that ;)
[18:57] <Joshun> and then reinstall the kernels
[18:57] <abstrakt> mongodb is a service, but it doesn't start on boot
[18:58] <Joshun> is there a way to fix this?
[18:58] <HQRaja> Does anyone use Emesene here?
[18:58] <amin`> notification-properties
[18:58] <amin`> notification-properties: command not found
[18:58] <paulo_gomes> pdtpatrick, gonna try that, thnks. here's the screenshot http://imagebin.org/187942
[18:58] <``PeeR> Q-collective: lol i found an other mouse, guess what... it is the same model... damn :(
[18:58] <oCean> MeQuerSat: then don't tell others to google
[18:58] <amin`> but i installed notification daemon
[18:58] <Q-collective> ``PeeR: :)
[18:58] <amin`> what should I installed also
[18:59] <MeQuerSat> ScramTech, if you dont have a problem with the drives being wiped, I would just plug them into the motherboard ports, reformat and have fun :)
[18:59] <``PeeR> Q-collective: I'll try it... brb
[18:59] <ScramTech> MeQuerSat:  Shutting down as we speak... here goes nothin'!  ;)
[19:00] <OerHeks> ScramTech, your  HighPoint RocketRAID 2640x4, did you enter the raid bios like the manual tells you when the raid adapter shows up on boot, by pressing CTRL + H  ? http://www.highpoint-tech.cn/USA/rr2640x4.htm
[19:01] <ScramTech> OerHeks:  I did... the drives are already configured
[19:01] <ScramTech> and they were operational under a windows install
[19:01] <Exxon> OerHeks, ScramTech don't read or don't want to read anything..that's all
[19:01] <meco> OK, then, plan B. How do I change the system defaults in general, in this case with respect to file manager?
[19:02] <ScramTech> Exxon: that's not true
[19:02] <pdtpatrick_> paulo_gomes: looks like your colorscheme is screwy.. try :colorscheme wombat
[19:02] <pdtpatrick_> and see what happens
[19:02] <pdtpatrick_> paulo_gomes: you can also try asking in #vim
[19:03] <paulo_gomes> pdtpatrick, i've tryed various colorschemes :(
[19:03] <OerHeks> ScramTech, you want to boot from this raid too ? then you have to set the boot mark
[19:03] <paulo_gomes> pdtpatrick, thanks i will ask there
[19:03] <ScramTech> OerHeks: no, I have a separate boot drive
[19:04] <ScramTech> just for storage
[19:04] <OerHeks> after that, it should be working OOTB
[19:04] <pfifo> ScramTech, obivously you have a HDD alread in your box that you can boot from
[19:04] <ScramTech> yes indeed pfifo... and installer didn't see the raid array... which is why I was trying to figure out the open source drivers
[19:05] <Exxon> HQRaja, so what with the Emesene then
[19:05] <HQRaja> Exxon: I was wondering how can I sign in with both MSN and GTalk
[19:05] <jack-anton> Bonsoir
[19:06] <jack-anton> J'ai un soucis
[19:06] <webnet> Semba and kasii pm me i cant open the pm on my own on mobile
[19:06] <HQRaja> Exxon: It does support both (those are the only two IM services I use) but after signing in with my MSN account, I can't find an option to add a GTalk account without having to sign out the MSN account
[19:06] <Tebyghenya> MeQuerSat, blackbit: thanks, this will fix my problems.
[19:06] <Tebyghenya> Hey, I am tired of delete three big logs from /var/log. How to order Ubuntu not to save log (or at least not so big)?
[19:07] <semba> just did pm you webnet
[19:07] <Exxon> HQRaja, i use pigdin simple and easy yeh! thats me
[19:07] <pfifo> Tebyghenya, the program logrotate can fix that for you
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> irssi is simpler, still
[19:07] <nsaquatics> MeQuerSat, here is the pastebin... http://pastebin.com/4rsQFqPq
[19:07] <HQRaja> Exxon: Yeah pidgin's good too, and so is Empathy. I just like the looks of Emesene more (coming from Windows)
[19:08] <zan_> i can't find any computer help channels
[19:08] <Tebyghenya> pfifo: ok, let's try.
[19:08] <zan_> so i thought maybe
[19:08] <zan_> ubuntu could help me.
[19:08] <zan_> although i'm on windows rite now
[19:08] <oCean> zan_: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[19:08] <oCean> zan_: there is a ##windows channel for windows support
[19:08] <zan_> oCean: orite
[19:09] <zan_> oCean: but my problem goes into keyboard keys.
[19:09] <zan_> oCean: so this is general computer help.
[19:09] <oCean> zan_: there is also a channel #hardware. Anyway, it's offtopic here
[19:09] <meco> How do I change the system defaults in general, in this case with respect to file manager? I want it to be thunar rather than nautilus
[19:11] <OerHeks> ScramTech, as i try to understand, you want to wipe the drives anyway, why don't you initialise the drives again like the 1st use, and start fresh
[19:11] <Tebyghenya> pfifo: can you explain, in two or three lines, how to use it?
[19:12] <pfifo> Tebyghenya, no I cant, I dont know how :( youll have to read the manual, 'man logrotate'
[19:12] <ScramTech> OerHeks: well they are already initialized (and that takes a long time on 4x1TB drives).  I had assumed I would reformat them once I got the system to see them.
[19:12] <meco> Why does thos line in /etc/fstab cause the boot sequence to halt and not mount the ntfs partition: UUID=E6B08D1CB08CF479 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 2
[19:13] <meco> this
[19:13] <OerHeks> ScramTech, i am not sure a raid solution formatted by windows is the distubing factor
[19:13] <dr_willis> meco:  try 'sudo mount /mnt/windows' and see if an error message is given
[19:14] <corey_> hello
[19:14] <ImTheDude> how do i change ubuntu splash screeen
[19:15] <dr_willis> !plymouth | ImTheDude
[19:16] <Sivik> what is a good vpn client for ubuntu?
[19:16] <meco> dr_willis: Well, my problem isn't mounting from the command line but from the boot. This works from the prompt: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows
[19:16] <dr_willis> meco:  any actual error messages given?
[19:16] <Sivik> dr_willis, you ever set up pptpd and get it working to allow windows clients to register without any issues
[19:16] <dr_willis> meco:  does 'sudo mount /mnt/windows' work?
[19:17] <Nopel> how to use read in commandline?
[19:17] <dr_willis> Sivik:  Nope.
[19:17] <Sivik> darnit
[19:17] <``PeeR> Q-collective: same trouble with the other mouse
[19:17] <dr_willis> Nopel:  'read variablename'  I think..
[19:17] <Nopel> only y / n may be used
[19:17] <pfifo> meco, you need to change ntfs-3g to ntfs in your /etc/fstab
[19:17] <Exxon> ImTheDude, god be with you............. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f57JCdx3bjg
[19:17] <dr_willis> read: usage: read [-ers] [-a array] [-d delim] [-i text] [-n nchars] [-N nchars] [-p prompt] [-t timeout] [-u fd] [name ...]
[19:18] <dr_willis> from 'read --help' :)
[19:18] <meco> dr_willis: Well, my problem isn't mounting from the command line but from the boot.
[19:18] <meco> sorry..
[19:18] <meco> pfifo: OK!
[19:18] <dr_willis> meco:  does 'sudo mount /mnt/windows' work - it did not seem to give the same optiuonas as your command line.
[19:18] <fr4nky> how do you find if you have virus's on wins from ubuntu?
[19:19] <meco> dr_willis: No, it didn't because it was already mointed
[19:19] <dr_willis> meco:  the tool 'ntfs-config' i think can add a entry to the fstab for you
[19:19] <dr_willis> meco:  so unmount it. :)
[19:19] <dr_willis> fr4nky:  use clamav  is one way
[19:20] <Vustom> Can someone please help me? I made my Windows partition have less space and the boot loader stopped working for it, so I fixed that, but while I was trying to fix it I stuffed up GRUB, GRUB now loads on /dev/sda1 which is the Windows partition instead of /dev/sda. I did this by flagged /dev/sda1 as boot in gparted, but when I realized what it did I unflagged it as boot, then reinstalled GRUB and set it to install on /dev/sda but it d
[19:20] <urlin2u> fr4nky, bitdefender and avast have linux versions, I would just download one og=f the many av apps you can run from a booted cd.
[19:20] <fr4nky> is that win based?
[19:20] <dr_willis> fr4nky:  most of the linux av apps.. also have windows versions.
[19:20] <dr_willis> many of the companies have linux-live cds also with their av software on them.
[19:20] <fr4nky> ty
[19:20] <meco> dr_willis: umount: /mnt/windows: device is busy.
[19:21] <urlin2u> fr4nky, http://www.techmixer.com/free-bootable-antivirus-rescue-cds-download-list/
[19:21] <dr_willis> meco:  close out all apps, and shells that are accessing it.
[19:22] <meco> dr_willis: Now it mounted
[19:22] <curioso> Brasil?
[19:22] <pfifo> Vustom, remove grub from /dev/sda1 and any config files that it placed on /dev/sda1 and then reinstall grub to the proper place
[19:23] <Vustom> pfifo: In my C:\ drive which I believe is /dev/sda1, it has a folder called grub
[19:23] <pfifo> Vustom, delete it
[19:23] <meco> I'll attempt to reboot with the change pfifo gave me
[19:24] <Vustom> pfifo: But I deleted it before, booted up a live CD and put this in the terminal; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917 but it didn't work, just went back to /dev/sda1
[19:24] <OerHeks> pfifo, just found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1856162 for ScramTech .. it could be working.
[19:25] <curioso> ???
[19:25] <samthewildone> How to update ubuntu software center to support adobe reader ?
[19:25] <ScramTech> OerHeks GoogleFu is much better than mine.  I'm going to attempt this now and see if it works for me
[19:26] <pfifo> !grub | Vustom
[19:26] <curioso> ?????????????
[19:26] <pfifo> Vustom, use the standard method for restoring grub
[19:26] <Vustom> pfifo: That's complex though :(
[19:26] <BluesKaj> curioso, have a question ?
[19:26] <curioso> BR?
[19:26] <BluesKaj> !br
[19:27] <curioso> Language from Brazil?
[19:27] <pfifo> Vustom, yeah but it works, while you GUI to obivously dosent
[19:27] <chilversc> how can I relaunch metacity in my current session?
[19:27] <``PeeR> for my mousewheel trouble, forums tell me to edit xorg.cong ... file that I do not have..
[19:27] <pfifo> tool*
[19:27] <dr_willis> chilversc:  'metacity --replace' normally
[19:27] <curioso> no speak ingles
[19:27] <theadmin> !br | curioso
[19:27] <chilversc> dr_willis: yes, but where does one run that if metacity isn't running?
[19:28] <dr_willis> chilversc:  any terminal, or cosole. after using 'export DISPLAY=0.0'
[19:28] <benoliver999> ``PeeR: It's xorg.conf
[19:28] <theadmin> dr_willis: You mean :0.0, of course ;)
[19:28] <``PeeR> yeah benoliver999
[19:28] <samthewildone> How to update ubuntu software center to support adobe reader ?
[19:28] <Nopel> where to find more info about read -n
[19:28] <``PeeR> benoliver999: I don't have it in X11
[19:28] <chilversc> dr_willis: ah right, and how do I run it in such away its not attached to the current process? the same way it does when its launched via whatever starts X?
[19:28] <arios> salam
[19:29] <arios> hello
[19:29] <theadmin> samthewildone: We won't support that. There are many better free alternatives.
[19:29] <arios> hello
[19:29] <samthewildone> theadmin: what are the alternatives ?
[19:29] <dr_willis> bbl
[19:30] <Vustom> pfifo: Do I just do the Copy LiveCD Files part, or Purge & Reinstall?
[19:30] <theadmin> samthewildone: I think Evince should come preinstalled. There are also Okular, xpdf and quite a few others, can't remember em all right off the bat
[19:30] <curioso> ok
[19:30] <Myrtti> samthewildone: the one that is installed by default has all the features I've ever needed
[19:30] <FreezingCold> I just dd'd the iso of Ubuntu 11.04, but I can't seem to boot off of it!
[19:30] <chilversc> hmm, that isn't working, its giving me "Unable to open X display 0.0"
[19:30] <theadmin> FreezingCold: Ubuntu versions earlier than 11.10 do not support dd'ing
[19:30] <theadmin> chilversc: It should be :0.0 (with a colon in front)
[19:30] <chilversc> ah, its :0.0
[19:31] <FreezingCold> theadmin: oops, it was 11.10 amd64
[19:31] <theadmin> FreezingCold: Oh, then it's rather odd
[19:31] <chilversc> ah bugger it, this X session has gone to hell, again
[19:31] <FreezingCold> shouldn't I be able to mount it within my current distro if it's working?
[19:31] <pfifo> Vustom, you have to boot a livecd, mount your / and /boot run grub-install specifying the --root-directory
[19:31] <meco> I did fet the ntfs partition to mount on boot, but only by ignoring the halt on boot that said: Serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /mnt/windows
[19:31] <chilversc> I appear to have lost the launcher bar as well :s
[19:31] <theadmin> FreezingCold: Yeah should be able to
[19:32] <FreezingCold> theadmin: hmm I'm not seeing it
[19:32] <meco> That's not acceptable on a system that may be booted by many people
[19:32] <theadmin> FreezingCold: How did you dd it? You are aware that you should dd to a drive and not a partition, correct?
[19:33] <FreezingCold> theadmin: yeah, "sudo dd if=ubuntublahlah11.10.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=2M""
[19:33] <gil> cant you dd into a file?
[19:33] <theadmin> FreezingCold: That should of worked
[19:33] <theadmin> gil: Yeah: dd if=/dev/sdxy of=filename.dd
[19:33] <FreezingCold> theadmin: Do you know how I could try mounting it?
[19:34] <theadmin> FreezingCold: mount -o loop DEVICE MOUNTPOINT # Shoulda work
[19:34] <gil> try using -loop
[19:34] <FreezingCold> says I need to specify the filesystem type
[19:34] <theadmin> FreezingCold: That's odd... Should not happen >.<
[19:35] <FreezingCold> Do I need to maybe reformat the whole thing first?
[19:35] <Vustom> pfifo: So, "sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt" then "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda"? I'm only guessing, I'm no good at this. :D
[19:35] <theadmin> Ubuntu is such an Ubuntu... And no, FreezingCold, you shouldn't need to
[19:36] <FreezingCold> hmm, maybe my image is corrupt
[19:36] <FreezingCold> bd6a1be4d070bce3b313f47e9e19bff3 is my md5sum
[19:36] <theadmin> FreezingCold: Could be so, I suggest you use the torrents or at least md5 the iso
[19:36] <pfifo> Vustom, no, what partition is you ubuntu installed under?
[19:36] <FreezingCold> ahhh, this seems to be the issue :P
[19:36] <FreezingCold> seems like my image is trashed
[19:37] <Vustom> pfifo: sda3 or 5 I think, but I'll figure that out when I open up gparted (in windows atm)
[19:37] <FreezingCold> What's your md5sum of 11.10 amd64 desktop?
[19:37] <Vustom> pfifo: 98% sure it's sda3
[19:37] <theadmin> FreezingCold: 62fb5d750c30a27a26d01c5f3d8df459 is the md5sum you need...
[19:37] <pfifo> Vustom, did you use a seperate partition for /boot
[19:37] <FreezingCold> wait, but I'm done downloading and I'm sending it...
[19:37] <theadmin> FreezingCold: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/MD5SUMS
[19:38] <Vustom> pfifo: I didn't change anything on the Ubuntu install.. so whatever the default is
[19:38] <FreezingCold> theadmin: lol I used ktorrent to check my data and it just deleted all of it :P
[19:38] <Vustom> pfifo: I'm using the latest Ubuntu official release, I forgot what that's called too. :D
[19:38] <FreezingCold> so I'm guessing it got messed up big time
[19:38] <theadmin> FreezingCold: lol... xD
[19:38] <pfifo> Vustom, ok then you would want (if it is in face sda3) `"sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt && sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda`
[19:39] <pfifo> fact*
[19:39] <FreezingCold> I'm so glad I have unlimited bandwidth, or I'd be raging right now
[19:39] <Cataclysm> phonon isnt showing my soundcard. google didn't help. any advice?
[19:39] <Cataclysm> im getting sound, but really bad stuttering
[19:39] <Cataclysm> using pulse audio
[19:39] <theadmin> FreezingCold: lol xD It's weird tho... Torrents don't usually get corrupted...
[19:39] <Vustom> pfifo: Thanks, and I delete the grub from C:\ in Windows and that should be all fixed? :D
[19:40] <FreezingCold> theadmin: Probably my filesystem screwed it up
[19:40] <theadmin> FreezingCold: Could be, who knows
[19:40] <pfifo> Vustom, it should be, deleting grub from c: might be all you need, but restoring gurb in addition is your best bet
[19:41] <Vustom> pfifo: I tried that before, it boots into an error :p
[19:41] <FreezingCold> theadmin: going to check my other livecd's and see what happened
[19:42] <HQRaja> How do I set Empathy to organize my contacts by online/offline only, hiding all groups (without deleting the groups)?
[19:43] <nsaquatics> Can anybody help me with this driver build problem? : http://pastebin.com/4rsQFqPq
[19:44] <maujhsn> Need some help! I am booting from a liveUSB ubuntu 10.04 for the first time. I am using a 8 GB USB! Why does casper-rw use up 4 GB of disk space?
[19:44] <Vustom> pfifo: Thanks again :)
[19:44] <FreezingCold> Yeah, my other LiveCD is trashed too
[19:44] <pfifo> np
[19:44] <FreezingCold> hmm, ktorrent seems to be messing up...
[19:44] <theadmin> FreezingCold: I use qbittorrent myself
[19:44] <urlin2u> maujhsn, for saving stuff
[19:44] <theadmin> FreezingCold: It's also KDE-ish, altough less dependent on kde
[19:44] <salty> i use qbittorrent too
[19:45] <FreezingCold> ktorrent is totally dependent on KDE
[19:45] <FreezingCold> transmission used to panic my buggy kernel, although I went back to stable now
[19:45] <pfifo> transmission is the best bit-torrent client of all time
[19:45] <FreezingCold> gtg eat
[19:45] <theadmin> FreezingCold: qbittorrent is pretty neat actually, checkzit, it's... neat :D
[19:45] <airtonix> i have a 64bit cpu and os, if i want 64bit wine on 11.10 do i have to compile it ?
[19:45] <salty> qbittorrent allows for searches and can be used in winblows too
[19:46] <HQRaja> How about Deluge?
[19:46] <maujhsn> urlin2u OK!
[19:46] <HQRaja> Deluge is pretty damn good
[19:46] <Cataclysm> anyone know why pulse audio might be stuttering in ubuntu 11?
[19:47] <maujhsn> urlin2u What is the maximum number of programs you would install on one USB?
[19:47] <fr4nky> any can invite me to torrentleech?
[19:47] <BluesKaj> salty, certainprivate  trackers like thebox in the UK don't allow the qBittorrent client due to it's non ID to the tracker
[19:47] <pfifo> airtonix, I dont think there is a wine64 package yet, but there might be a ppa
[19:48] <w30> Cataclysm, related to Mel Tillis probably
[19:48] <salty> ohhhhh ok, thnx BluesKaj
[19:48] <urlin2u> maujhsn, hard to answer that, the casper will get full and is not cleanable, your better with a full install on the usb if you just want to boot from it for ubuntu.
[19:48] <Cataclysm> w30 mel tillis?
[19:48] <Cataclysm> is that a joke
[19:48] <theadmin> FreezingCold: http://i.imm.io/cLrk.png - qbittorrent web UI. The real GUI looks pretty much identical :D
[19:49] <maujhsn> urlin2u Would it be beter to use a 16 GB liveUSB?
[19:49] <MisterMom> Cataclysm, i have the same problem but yet to find a answer
[19:49] <BluesKaj> Cataclysm, did you setup the device preference in phonon and then in pulseaudio in the audio hardware setup
[19:49] <w30> Cataclysm, sorry inside joke. Mel Tillis is a country & western singer that stutters except when singing
[19:50] <urlin2u> maujhsn, sure depends on your needs the usb will run a little slower in all though.
[19:50] <Cataclysm> MisterMom sigh. phonon doesnt show my sound card anymore. ill take a look at pulseaudio options
[19:50] <maujhsn> urlin2u I do not want to install ubuntu on my laptop!
[19:50] <salty> urlin2u, using the USB for a writable LiveISO is just like using a 8GB computer, you'll have to check to see how big the apps are before installing
[19:51] <urlin2u> salty, maujhsn is the one you want to adress. :D
[19:51] <salty> oh sorry
[19:51] <MisterMom> Cataclysm,  i went back to 11.04 as i could not fix the problem
[19:51] <salty> maujhsn,  using the USB for a writable LiveISO is just like using a 8GB computer, you'll have to check to see how big the apps are before installing
[19:51] <BluesKaj> Cataclysm, MisterMom, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[19:51] <derp> yes hello
[19:51] <twocarlo> cant get jigdo to work cant resume the download of .iso
[19:51] <airtonix> derp, umad?
[19:51] <Cataclysm> BluesKaj saw that, no help
[19:52] <maujhsn> urlin2u I notice that the liveUSB  is slower, but I am not troubled by it!
[19:52] <semba> webnet and kasii are you still there?
[19:52] <airtonix> pfifo: that's unfortunate
[19:52] <urlin2u> maujhsn, I have used a usb at times myself not really that much slower in my experience
[19:53] <MisterMom> BluesKaj,  seen that already was no help for me at least
[19:53] <Nopel> how to use or in while ?
[19:53] <maujhsn> salty Thanks for the info!
[19:53] <salty> np
[19:53] <BluesKaj> Cataclysm, did you run the install,  sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic
[19:53] <urlin2u> maujhsn, main advantage with a full install is being able to clean it, so you have enough romm, the casper-rw is not cleanable and you are running the ISO not a install.
[19:53] <HQRaja> How do I set Empathy to organize my contacts by online/offline only, hiding all groups (without deleting the groups)?
[19:54] <MisterMom> BluesKaj,  i think it has somthing to do with the new kernel
[19:54] <maujhsn> salty How would I make a backup LiveUSB for the one that I am currently using?
[19:54] <BluesKaj> Cataclysm, after running those installs a reboot is usually in order as well
[19:54] <Cataclysm> BluesKaj - yes i didnt reboot though
[19:54] <Cataclysm> i will do so now
[19:54] <Cataclysm> thnk you
[19:55] <clint_> hh
[19:55] <Tech-1> D`oh!
[19:55] <Tech-1> ksplice ?
[19:55] <hobbel> Can someone explain me why a freshly made NTFS filesystem (Gparted) is not clean, and will not mount RW?
[19:56] <theadmin> hobbel: How are you mounting it?
[19:56] <sanjayb> just installed ubuntu on an msi cr430 laptop. wireless drivers seem to not show up at all . anyone around who can try and help? dont find anything on google ..
[19:56] <maujhsn> urlin2u In the past I have install ubuntu on my computer! This time I choose not to!
[19:56] <pfifo> urlin2u, you can clean casper-rw `mke2fs -L casper-rw /dev/sdb2`
[19:56] <hobbel> theadmin just default mount, but force mount on rw doesnt work either
[19:56] <fatih> hello everyone , where i can download animated wallpapers for linux ?
[19:56] <theadmin> hobbel: Err, let me see... "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdx50 /mnt" or something like this, correct?
[19:57] <hobbel> theadmin just default mount, but force mount on rw doesnt work either. nfsfix tells me volume is corrupt and CHKDISK should be run. CHKDISK thinks its alright
[19:57] <urlin2u> maujhsn, no problem just use the other option and make sure the ubuntu's grub goes to the mbr of the usb, you have a recovery or install for the windows I assume if you need to reload its boot to the mbr.
[19:57] <theadmin> hobbel: You're using ntfs-3g as fstype, not "ntfs", right?
[19:57] <theadmin> hobbel: Because the "ntfs" driver has no rw support >.<
[19:57] <hobbel> theadmin yes, and it tells me warning: its read only
[19:57] <theadmin> hobbel: Hm, that's weird
[19:58] <sanjayb> hobbel, chkdisk /f , have you tried?
[19:58] <urlin2u> pfifo, sure but you loose all the updates etc.
[19:58] <hobbel> sanjayb in windows you mean?
[19:58] <sanjayb> hobbel: yes.
[19:58] <hobbel> sanjayb chkdisk doesnt work in linux right?
[19:58] <hobbel> sanjayb it tells me the drive is fine
[19:58] <sanjayb> hobbel: no, in windows - you said you tried chkdisk, so i assume you had some way to access it on windows
[19:58] <sanjayb> hobbel: hmm .. and you mount and unmount (shutdown) cleanly in windows, and it still wont mount rw in ubuntu?
[19:59] <hobbel> sanjayb yes, thats the weird part. It should function
[19:59] <sanjayb> hobbel: what version of ubuntu ?
[19:59] <hobbel> sanjayb Gparted tells me it cant fix it, but its not clean. Ubuntu 11.10
[19:59] <urlin2u> pfifo, If I was going to use a casper I would make it a parttion and big enough myself
[19:59] <sanjayb> hobbel: did you try -o force ? (not that i would recommend it ... )
[19:59] <hobbel> sanjayb tried that, refuses
[20:00] <Dj_FlyBy> I am having some issues with Ubuntu 10.04 freezing during boot now that I activated a restricted driver for my ATI Radeon HD3450. Any suggestions to fix this please?
[20:00] <salty> maujhsn, try clonezilla
[20:00] <theadmin> !nomodeset | Dj_FlyBy
[20:00] <mongy> Dj_FlyBy, revert back to the open source driver
[20:00] <sanjayb> hobbel: truly strange.
[20:00] <hobbel> sanjayb thats what i thought, I have to note I close it in Win8 Dev Preview though
[20:01] <hobbel> sanjayb but also tried it with WinXP a few days ago
[20:02] <sanjayb> hobbel: Win8 Dev preview .. oo, sounds scary ;) .. you sure it was the same problem with WinXP though? or that would be really interesting ..
[20:02] <maujhsn> salty is clonezilla an ubuntu package?
[20:02] <hobbel> sanjayb yes it was, thats what started the problem actually. The drive has been in lots of computers so i do suspect its the drive
[20:02] <hobbel> sanjayb but i would think a full repartition would fix that right?
[20:03] <salty> i don't think so
[20:03] <urlin2u> maujhsn, here is a link for yah.  http://clonezilla.org/
[20:03] <salty> thnx urlin2u
[20:03] <theadmin> hobbel: As for "full repartition": sudo fdisk /dev/sdx <<< "o" # Erases all partitions on a drive, creates an empty MBR partition table.
[20:03] <sanjayb> hobbel: hm .. if its physical errors on the drive or so, may behave strange ..
[20:03] <optimusM> can logcat run on a terminal with another terminal
[20:04] <hobbel> theadmin I assume gparted does the same right?
[20:04] <urlin2u> maujhsn, excellent cloner and if you want to put the saved image in another partition you can tweak the image.
[20:04] <theadmin> hobbel: Possibly, I don't quite remember gparted much
[20:04] <hobbel> sanjayb I should indeed check the drive itsself... maybe ntfs-3g is a bit more picky on drive errors
[20:04] <theadmin> hobbel: I only ever use it for resizing stuff lol
[20:04] <optimusM> like if im building something in one terminal can i logcat that terminal?
[20:04] <urlin2u> maujhsn, in a different partiton number that is say from sda1 to sda2
[20:05] <zippa_13_geek> hi
[20:05] <sanjayb> hobbel: something like this, i would guess.
[20:06] <hobbel> sanjayb 12 bad sectors giving it a "Warning" in SMART
[20:06] <bobble> hi guys
[20:06] <bobble> a i have a question
[20:06] <Dr_Willis1> Hmm..  the ubuntu installer could be a little more.. err.. exacting in its terms.
[20:06] <pfifo> optimusM, you can direct the output to a /dev/tty or a /dev/pts
[20:07] <Dr_Willis1> Wanting to install to a second hard drive. and not touch windows.. and it seems to imply i have to resize.. :)
[20:07] <Dj_FlyBy> theadmin: Thanks, Ill try that now
[20:07] <sanjayb> hobbel: thats probably it, then :-) .. you probably dont want to be mounting the drive then.
[20:07] <bobble> if i have shortcut on desktop ... how can i figure out the console command to start this shortcut from console?
[20:07] <wind> is there any way to make unity not show the application name at top bar, and show the menus for selected window always? I think it silly to have to hover with mouse to see where I really should move the mouse to, and there's not enough space for the app name so it gets cut too :)
[20:07] <theadmin> bobble: Um, see what the shortcut is pointing to in it's properties
[20:07] <Gentoo64> bobble: right click the shortcut and view the command
[20:08] <hobbel> sanjayb I'm glad I have a back up :)
[20:09] <ich__> Anybody here ever recompiled Xorg?
[20:09] <luke-jr> I'm having this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11518055 … but the update is no longer merely "proposed", it's standard…
[20:09] <solton36> salut à tous
[20:09] <luke-jr> any ideas?
[20:09] <bobble> mhhh i want to optirun (bumblebee) QLPrism
[20:09] <solton36> un français ici
[20:09] <theadmin> ich__: Gentoo64 probably has :D
[20:09] <bobble> this is a quake live client
[20:09] <sanjayb> hobbel: hm .. a bit strange there isn't some way to force the mount, but i guess probably an ntfs-3g issue or so
[20:09] <semba> oui,mais va sur ubuntu-fr pourde l'aide en français
[20:09] <solton36> ok
[20:09] <solton36> merci
[20:09] <pfifo> ich__, I have
[20:09] <ich__> Trying to recompile xorg: apt-get the sources, config, make,  have a binary, swap it out with /usr/bin/Xorg  and it complains : no drivers available, no screens found    do i have to do the drivers too?
[20:10] <maujhsn> salty I will make a note of the partition info that you sent me! That could come in handy for me some day!
[20:10] <sanjayb> um, does anyone have the link to the ubuntu laptop database where it lists tests for different laptops? can't seem to find anything on this msi cr430 a friend just bought ..
[20:10] <HQRaja> How do I set Empathy to organize my contacts by online/offline only, hiding all groups (without deleting the groups)?
[20:10] <hobbel> sanjayb maybe its just a security feature..
[20:11] <pfifo> ich__, you may need to provide the correct directory that X should look in for drivers
[20:11] <xuser1> hi
[20:11] <sanjayb> hobbel: but that's what i thought -o force was for :/ - anyhow :)
[20:11] <xuser1> the nvidia driver doesnt work in gnome fallback mode
[20:11] <xuser1> :-D
[20:11] <Gentoo64> ich__: what are you trying to sovle?
[20:12] <Gentoo64> solve
[20:12] <maujhsn> urlin2u, salty Take Care, & thanks!
[20:12] <urlin2u> maujhsn, you to as well
[20:12] <salty> maujhsn, you too
[20:12] <xuser1> any ideas? i have nvidia gf6100 nf405 and ubuntu ggome shell remix 11.10
[20:12] <xuser1> ?
[20:13] <luke-jr> xuser1: get a decent video chipset ;)
[20:13] <luke-jr> like Intel
[20:13] <JabberWalkie_> install windows 7?
[20:13] <xuser1> i have the same issue on mint 12 based on ubuntu 11.10
[20:13] <Gentoo64> JabberWalkie_: bit random..
[20:14] <xuser1> the video driver work perfectly on gnome 3 , but doesnt work in fallback mode
[20:14] <xuser1> any ideas?
[20:14] <urlin2u> JabberWalkie_, can you elaborate
[20:14] <JabberWalkie_> nope
[20:14] <luke-jr> xuser1: nvidia is garbage, no surprise
[20:14] <Gentoo64> luke-jr: dont be silly
[20:14] <luke-jr> so anyhow, I'm afraid I won't be able to boot with my system as is… the upgrade seems to have killed it
[20:14] <urlin2u> JabberWalkie_, excellent I was hoping so.
[20:15] <xuser1> but it work perfectly in gnoime 3 mode
[20:15] <Gentoo64> everyone knows nvidia owns all
[20:15] <luke-jr> Gentoo64: no way, nvidia is the worst
[20:15] <luke-jr> on Linux
[20:15] <Gentoo64> ati fanboy?
[20:15] <FreezingCold> theadmin: there we go, redownloaded Ubuntu and now it has the right md5sum
[20:15] <luke-jr> I switched to Intel this year.
[20:15] <Gentoo64> luke-jr: lol ok
[20:15] <luke-jr> Intel's new GPUs blow nvidia and ATi aways
[20:15] <Gentoo64> lol
[20:15] <Gentoo64> funny guy
[20:15] <FreezingCold> Gentoo64: Why is Gentoo in Ubuntu? :P
[20:16] <MisterMom> luke-jr,  so buy us all one then
[20:16] <xuser1> how can i verify if nvidia driver work in gnome fallback mode?
[20:16] <Gentoo64> im not "gentoo"
[20:16] <Dr_Willis1> !info gentoo
[20:16] <luke-jr> MisterMom: nah
[20:16] <FreezingCold> xuser1: try fallback mode?
[20:16] <zxiest[a]> Hello :-)
[20:16] <MisterMom> cheepo
[20:16] <xuser1> im using fallback mode
[20:16] <xuser1> i hate gnome shell
[20:16] <FreezingCold> xuser1: then try using the driver?
[20:17] <Gentoo64> xuser1: do what everyone else does and use somethign else
[20:17] <JabberWalkie_> xuser1, try swapping out different graphics cards until you find one that works
[20:17] <theadmin> FreezingCold: Good
[20:17] <Dr_Willis1> I have very few issues with Unity or gnome-shell :)
[20:17] <FreezingCold> theadmin: writing it now :D
[20:17] <xuser1> hmmm
[20:17] <Tech-1> Nvidia ftw
[20:17] <FreezingCold> I turned off my Nvidia card
[20:17] <Dr_Willis1> at least its not a S3 :)
[20:17] <FreezingCold> So there
[20:17] <xuser1> gnome fallback mode is like gnome 2 , can add delete panels , applets etc
[20:18] <JabberWalkie_> psh, your graphics card chipset sucks! I hate the chipset you like!
[20:18] <Dr_Willis1> I rember when Matrox was a big name in video cards.
[20:18] <FreezingCold> I have a GT540M 1GB that's totally disabled, TAKE THAT
[20:18] <Tech-1> lol
[20:19] <MisterMom> yeah graphics wars
[20:19] <Tech-1> chocolate pudding ftw
[20:19] <FreezingCold> I'm using a Intel integrated card now
[20:19] <xuser1> so , i cant fix this problem?
[20:19] <JabberWalkie_> my graphics can beat up yer graphics
[20:19] <paissad> how do you save/backup your private gpg keys ? (usb key ? mail box ? ...)
[20:19] <xuser1> :-D
[20:19] <MisterMom> lol
[20:19] <Dr_Willis1> Tech-1:  Tapiapicca!
[20:19] <Tech-1> Yeah
[20:20] <Gentoo64> paissad: you could encrypt something like a usb stick and put them there
[20:20] <Gentoo64> or on a cd stored away
[20:20] <Gentoo64> whatevetr you want
[20:20] <paissad> Gentoo64,"whatever" i know, .. but i meant a reasonable safe solution :
[20:20] <JabberWalkie_> put them on a 3.5in floppy disk, no one will be be able to read it anyways
[20:21] <FreezingCold> OK, why is my USB light blinking for NO reason?
[20:21] <FreezingCold> card to explain?
[20:21] <paissad> i 1st backed up in a usb key, and the usb key broke up
[20:21] <xuser1> ubuntu tweak work in ubuntu 11.10?
[20:21] <Dr_Willis1> I have flash drives that always blink when plugged in.
[20:21] <Gentoo64> paissad: encrypt a usb stick with truecrypt, thats easy and very secure
[20:21] <FreezingCold> Dr_Willis1: It shouldn't be
[20:21] <FreezingCold> going to reboot...
[20:21] <FreezingCold> oh wait
[20:21] <paissad> Gentoo64, ok thanks
[20:21] <FreezingCold> it stopped
[20:21] <Gentoo64> paissad: or encrypt a cd and put on that
[20:21] <paissad> Gentoo64, i prefer the usb key encrypted, thanks
[20:21] <Bodsda> FreezingCold: ... got anything running on it? Music playing, file copy etc etc? Take it out, put it back in see what happens
[20:22] <Dr_Willis1> also stuff can still be syncing to the key after you stop using it..
[20:22] <Tech-1> ^
[20:22] <FreezingCold> hmm dunno, it stopped
[20:23] <FreezingCold> seems like my ubuntu liveusb is all done now
[20:23] <FreezingCold> going to try booting it now!
[20:23] <Tech-1> its the nsa, theyre checking up on you
[20:23] <MisterMom> lol
[20:27] <hath001> Hi all i am looking for WMV player
[20:27] <hath001> ?
[20:27] <Bodsda> hath001: VLC will play WMV files
[20:27] <shankysv87> how do i get b43 to load on boot in u11.10?
[20:27] <Dr_Willis1> it depends more on the CODEC the wmv is using...
[20:28] <hath001> not working for me
[20:28] <Bodsda> shankysv87: on boot or on login?
[20:28] <Bodsda> hath001: load from the terminal, get any errors?
[20:28] <hath001> what can i do please?
[20:28] <pfifo> is http://downloadmoreram.com compatible with ubuntu?
[20:28] <shankysv87> login.
[20:28] <buster1> What's the best way to get drivers for nvidia? With a clean installation of 11.10 my displays aren't recognised, and I don't know how to stop the X server (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and Ctrl-Alt-F1 etc. do nothing). With the "nvidia-current" package, the x server doesn't start on boot, and if I "start lightdm" or "startx" myself (from the Ctr-Alt-F1 terminal) it behaves strangely. I have a P8P67 mobo, i7 2600K, GTX 570, two displays.
[20:28] <Dr_Willis1> hath001:  determine the codec the wmv is using. run vlc from terminal, try to play the file. look at output in teh terminal
[20:29] <buster1> (Need to stop X to run the Nvidia driver installer.)
[20:29] <shankysv87> after login i'm required to put in sudo modprobe b43 each time for it to load my wireless adapter... after it loads it, everything is dandy until next restart.
[20:29] <hath001> i get this "No suitable decoder module:
[20:29] <hath001> VLC does not support the audio or video format "MSS2". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this."
[20:30] <Dr_Willis1> hath001:  very likely its some drm or other protected specialized codec.
[20:30] <urlin2u> !b43 | shankysv87
[20:30] <Gentoo64> hath001, never heard of it
[20:30] <Bodsda> shankysv87: search for 'startup' - although you'll have to use gksudo to get the password prompt
[20:30] <hath001> :(
[20:30] <Dr_Willis1> hath001:  dare i ask where this wmv came from?
[20:30] <BluesKaj> luke-jr, have you tried to configure intel graphics on linux , not the brand new stuff , the ordinary affordable cards
[20:31] <hath001> Linux LPIC-1 Series
[20:31] <Bodsda> hath001: ... send it back and demand a 'proper' format
[20:31] <Dr_Willis1> hath001:  whats lpic?
[20:31] <marcuy> I've enabled userdir module but when I try to load some public_html/test.php file it doesn't recognize such file as a php one and tries to download it, any ideas?
[20:32] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis1: Linux professional institute certification
[20:32] <buster1> I guess I'll uninstall "nvidia-current" and try again with the installer from Nvidia.
[20:32] <Dr_Willis1> Bodsda:  copy protected DRM files.....
[20:32] <Dr_Willis1> http://hintsforums.macworld.com/showthread.php?t=98723        mentions it...
[20:32] <shankysv87> urlin2u: i've followed that step in the past to get it to work on a single session but after reboot, i have to run those sudo commands each time. The driver is there but blacklisted for whatever reason until overriding with root.
[20:32] <Bodsda> marcuy: yeah, typical issue with apache and php files - run   /etc/init.d/apache2 restart     (or something to that affect)
[20:32] <hath001> ok thanks
[20:33] <marcuy> Bodsda, I've already restarted it but nothing happens :(
[20:33] <Bodsda> marcuy: nothing happens? meaning nothing changes or nothing restarts?
[20:33] <Dr_Willis1> Bodsda:  i seem to recall seeing some people mention that Institute in here befor. :)
[20:33] <urlin2u> shankysv87, well your in the right place to get that fixed, I would look on the ubuntu forums as well, maybe even start a thread there as well to have the most help available.
[20:33] <Dr_Willis1> you have to use a windows machine.. to get your Linux Cert. :)
[20:33] <buster1> Been having no fun at all installing 11.10. They should fix the "nomodeset" thing, it's not nice to give your new users a blank screen.
[20:33] <marcuy> Bodsda, I mean, it restarts but when I load the file I get the same behaviour
[20:33] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis1: I wouldn't have thought they would be mentioned here... no way related at all :)
[20:33] <Bodsda> marcuy: purge firefox cache
[20:34] <Dj_FlyBy> theadmin: any other suggestions? that didn't seem to work.
[20:34] <urlin2u> buster1, that makes no sense.
[20:34] <pfifo> buster1, complain in #kernel
[20:34] <buster1> urlin2u: it makes perfect sense.
[20:34] <marcuy> Bodsda, same..
[20:34] <theadmin> Dj_FlyBy: Not much but boot into a recovery shell and get rid of your prop drivers
[20:34] <urlin2u> buster1, not if you understand drivers and ubuntu's place in the scenario.
[20:34] <wind> ghh, why there's neither "use as wallpaper" in nautilus, nor does drag & dropping the picture anywhere in appearance window work (opened with "change desktop background")
[20:35] <Rotham> hey
[20:35] <Rotham> how can I tell if a specific cron job is running?
[20:35] <Bodsda> marcuy: hmm, I assume you have php installed and the apache_mod_php stuff?
[20:36] <m477_> I run WordWeb ( dictionary ) on Wine and I wonder if it is possible to use hot-keys when I am beyond Wine window
[20:36] <Bodsda> Rotham: scheduled to run or actually running, now?
[20:36] <Dj_FlyBy> theadmin: well I guess that sucks.. no 3d/opengl for me I suppose
[20:36] <urlin2u> wind, you just click on the + in the change desktop background right click on the dektop and choose what you want.
[20:36] <buster1> urlin2u: I have to understand drivers and kernels in order to install ubuntu?
[20:37] <Rotham> Bodsda:  actually running.. Ive added things to /etc/crontab, but none of it seems to run
[20:37] <dios_mio> 11.10 is too slow for me... can i turn unity off? will it get faster?
[20:37] <Bodsda> Rotham: care to pastebin your crontab?
[20:37] <wind> urlin2u: yep, that's how it seems to work :) though it's be nice to also support drag & drop and have a choice in nautilus
[20:37] <Bodsda> buster1: I doubt it, otherwise only about 100 people would be able to run it
[20:38] <urlin2u> buster1, no you have to understand the limitations of the driver providers for linux in general.
[20:38] <wunnle> hello
[20:38] <wunnle> anyone using boxee on ubuntu (11.10)?
[20:39] <lduros> hello, is there a way to install ubuntu with acpi off? when I put the cd in and boots it freezes because of acpi
[20:39] <urlin2u> dios_mio, what are you computers specs, there are many desktops to choose from.
[20:39] <urlin2u> your
[20:39] <Bodsda> lduros: on the screen where you pick the way to boot (e.g: boot into live cd, install etc etc.) one of the options from an F# key will allow you to add boot parameters
[20:40] <buster1> urlin2u: you're right, of course
[20:40] <dios_mio> urlin2u, it is a 2007 model laptop, not awfully slow.. is there a way to go back to original gnome interface without unity?
[20:40] <Dr_Willis1> !classic
[20:40] <robin0800> lduros: yes if you use the alternate cd and hit f6
[20:40] <FrozenFire> After installing the packages from the xorg-edgers ppa, it seems the newest driver for my Synaptic touchpad enables support for a bunch of stuff that I can't find the configuration for. I need to, specifically, be able to configure the scroll zone.
[20:41] <FrozenFire> Is there a utility I can install for that? I'm running Xubuntu.
[20:41] <lduros> robin0800: ok thanks
[20:42] <Dr_Willis1> FrozenFire:  there may be ppas with newer versions of synaptic/drivers/tools.
[20:42] <urlin2u> dios_mio, you have oneric installed?
[20:42] <Rotham> Bodsda:  http://pastebin.com/eEMaurrL
[20:43] <urlin2u> dios_mio, you can install the classic desktop, a bit of a hybrid of gnome 2  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/08/installing-using-classic-gnome-desktop.html
[20:43] <marcuy> Bodsda, it seems that ubuntu disable php in user directory as a security measure by default
[20:43] <Dr_Willis1> i just have to reccomend Lubuntu/LXDE if you want an old skool classic desktop. :)
[20:43] <Dr_Willis1> brb
[20:43] <pfifo> whats the eta on the 6502 port of ubuntu
[20:44] <zkxs> Recently, a second volume control has begun appearing in my Notification Area.  How do I get rid of it?  http://i.imgur.com/edIB9.png
[20:45] <Bodsda> marcuy: what do you mean?
[20:45] <Bodsda> Rotham: any reason your trying to run all those things as root?
[20:45] <dios_mio> urlin2u, thanks bro
[20:46] <urlin2u> dios_mio, no problem
[20:46] <m477_> I run WordWeb ( dictionary ) on Wine and I wonder if it is possible to use hot-keys when I am beyond Wine window
[20:47] <Rotham> Bodsda:  not really.. this was my first time trying to run something with cron, and I just picked root for the first test use.. I will switch to another user once I figure this out
[20:47] <Myrtti> well the last entry lacks the username
[20:48] <Bodsda> Rotham: its probably not working because you would have to provide the root password - try just removing the uername section (it will then run under your account)
[20:48] <_cb> When upgrading from ubuntu 9 to 11, among other things, I backed my evolution. Upgraded and.. no evolution. 11 has Thunderbird. Any way to import my evolution settings and account into thunderbird from the evolution backup?
[20:49] <compaq> hi
[20:50] <wind> _cb: you could always install evolution to 11? there seems to be a package at least in 11.10
[20:50] <Sidewinder1> !eol | _cb
[20:50] <Bodsda> _cb: I can't find much info unfortunately, apart from maybe thise: http://askubuntu.com/questions/27410/migrating-from-evolution-to-thunderbird
[20:50] <Sidewinder1> _cb, You were aware of that, I trust?
[20:50] <Bodsda> Sidewinder1: ... How was that relevant?
[20:51] <_cb> Sidewinder1 no. It was a surprise to see evolution in 11.
[20:51] <_cb> thunderbird that is
[20:51] <Sidewinder1> Bodsda, "ubuntu 9 to 11"?
[20:52] <wind> I can't believe there's still no option to "always show menu" and the app name is still weirdly cut and faded :) with so many people requesting it on the net
[20:52] <Bodsda> Sidewinder1: Telling him that an ubuntu version is end-of-life has nothing to do with inability to import volution backups into thunderbird???
[20:52] <Sidewinder1> T-Bird, my mistake, humblest apologies..
[20:52] <Mr_EE1> hello guys
[20:52] <wind> but it's an annoyance that could be lived with.. wonder what C file could be edited which handles hiding the bar :)
[20:52] <Bodsda> wind: filed a bug yet?
[20:53] <wind> Bodsda: it's not a bug, it's a design feature.. or rather a lack of obivious feature in settings
[20:53] <Mr_EE1> in linux is there a software like automix to dj with?
[20:53] <Bodsda> wind: still worthy of a bug report/feature request
[20:53] <pfifo> Mr_EE1, check out mixxx
[20:54] <Mr_EE1> pfifo: thanks but i have already checked it, it does not beat mix songs
[20:54] <SilverFox> is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs search failing for others, or is it just me?
[20:55] <SilverFox> hmm... now it works.
[20:55] <pfifo> Mr_EE1, last time I used it you could beat mix, i doubt that was changed
[20:55] <Bodsda> SilverFox:  errors for me
[20:56] <SilverFox> Bodsda: should we file a bug regarding the bug tracker's search?  :)
[20:56] <Bodsda> SilverFox: no one would find it
[20:56] <Mr_EE1> pfifo: how were you beat mixing the songs?
[20:56] <SilverFox> lol
[20:57] <pfifo> Mr_EE1, yes, i just installed it, everything is the same
[20:57] <Bodsda> SilverFox: love the error id starting with 00ps though
[20:57] <Sidewinder1> Bodsda, When someone starts their question with "When upgrading from ubuntu 9 to 11..." and the "9", to which they're referring is eol, that path can be somewhat problematic; hence my reference to the factoid. If I was outta' line I apologize. :-)
[20:57] <Mr_EE1> pfifo:  or which button were you pressing for beat mix
[20:57] <Mr_EE1> pfifo: when now?
[20:57] <pfifo> Mr_EE1, there is a sync button
[20:57] <wind> Bodsda: there is already at least one bug reported for it
[20:57] <Mr_EE1> pfifo: yep i can see that 1
[20:58] <Bodsda> Sidewinder1: ah, ok sorry - thought you were blaming the out of date version for removing evolution - my bad
[20:58] <Bodsda> wind: got a link, I'll look into it
[20:58] <wind> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/772268   (think I'll create an account if it's then possible to somehow "bump" the bug:)
[20:58] <pfifo> Mr_EE1, you just need to play around with it for a bit
[20:59] <Bodsda> wind: no bumping, but you can add yourself as an effected user
[20:59] <Sidewinder1> Bodsda, No problem, what-so ever, 'tis all good; that's why we're here.. :D
[20:59] <m477_> do you know if there is channel for wine? cuz #wine doesnt work
[20:59] <Bodsda> m477_: #winehq
[21:00] <m477_> Bodsda: ty
[21:00] <Mr_EE1> pfifo:  i am busy doing that it does not beat mix them
[21:01] <pfifo> Mr_EE1, unfortunatly i dont have any music handy or i would tell you exactly what todo
[21:01] <wind> Bodsda: thanks & done :)
[21:02] <Mr_EE1> pfifo: let me send you two songs
[21:02] <pfifo> ok
[21:02] <_cb> any downsides to using evolution in 11? am thinking I will un-install thunderbird and install evolution
[21:02] <Bodsda> _cb: none at all
[21:03] <Sidewinder1> Bodsda, Totally as an aside, I never cared for Evolution; tossed it when I installed Gutsy; went strait to T-bird, guess I shoulda' kept me mouth shut.. :-)
[21:03] <SilverFox> So, I've installed Oneiric on my MBP 5,3 and I've noticed a couple of 'issues'.  Is it good/beneficial for me to file bugs for these (external monitor not working, magicmouse not working) ?
[21:03] <Bodsda> Sidewinder1: I don't use mail clients, I telnet to the server - lol :) - I dislike evolution as well, thunderbird has a much nicer feel imho
[21:04] <Bodsda> SilverFox: if your monitor and your mouse don't work... how are you gonna file these bugs?
[21:05] <SilverFox> I don't see oneiric specific bugs on these issues on launchpad, but on the macbook wiki it says the external display worked fine in Lucid according to the mactel wiki.
[21:05] <Mr_EE1> pfifo: i am busy trying to look for songs which meets the size ok. now 1 song is transferring to you
[21:05] <SilverFox> Bodsda: my main monitor and touchpad work fine (its a laptop)
[21:05] <Sidewinder1> Bodsda, Telnet! You must be older than I.. I remember when kermit was the preferred protocol.
[21:05] <marcela> hola
[21:05] <Bodsda> SilverFox: :) I would have thought they would iron these out, but #ubuntu+1 might be able to advise further
[21:05] <Mr_EE1> pfifo: got them?
[21:05] <wind> SilverFox: if you have ati or nvidia graphics, it could be either using or not using the proprietary drivers makes difference in that external display thing
[21:05] <kermit> Sidewinder1: me too :(
[21:06] <urlin2u> SilverFox, if you file a bug report you will find out f it is a actual bug generally. Have you looked on the web for others having the same problem, or itemized the problems here for help.
[21:06] <wind> SilverFox: I noticed 11.10 has proprietary drivers on by default while older ubuntu distros did not
[21:06] <Bodsda> Sidewinder1: I doubt it, I get disciplineries at work for making my manager feel old when I tell him my first phone had more processing power than his first computer
[21:06] <Sidewinder1> kermit, Big surprise, there! ;-)
[21:06] <Sidewinder1> Bodsda, :D
[21:07] <SilverFox> wind: nvidia, but I've tried switching through the available 'additional drivers'
[21:07] <SilverFox> urlin2u: I have looked, but haven't found anything suggesting that others have trouble with this, nor is there any similar bugs on launchpad.
[21:07] <_cb> If there was a way to import the evolution tar files into tbird I would have kept T-bird but if I have to install evolution to migrate to t-bird then I may as well stay in ev untll my next upgrade
[21:07] <wind> SilverFox: btw, it might be useful to try nvidia-settings, and try enable the external monitor with that
[21:08] <Sidewinder1> Bodsda, My first wireless was a "bag-phone." Ot, I know,,..
[21:08] <SilverFox> #ubuntu+1 says penguin support, and oneiric support is in #ubuntu in their topic.
[21:08] <wind> SilverFox: since you're using the proprietary (additional) driver