[15:27] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: powerpc builds are stopped
[16:26] <ochosi> good news everyone, there'll be a new release of the elementary icons really soon (as in: within the next days) and my patch for the bug with the appfinder (appfinder-icon == catfish-icon) is included
[16:26] <micahg> ochosi: is the missing education icon known?
[16:27] <ochosi> micahg: is it also missing in bzr?
[16:27] <micahg> ochosi: idk, haven't checked yet
[16:27] <ochosi> i'll quickly have a look
[16:31] <ochosi> micahg: sry, can't say whether it's known, it seems to be missing though: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~elementarydesign/elementaryicons/trunk/files/head:/elementary-icon-theme/elementary/categories/24/?file_id=categories-20091112072358-d8c4uieo922x9z6k-20
[16:31] <micahg> ochosi: do you want me to file a bug, if so where
[16:32] <ochosi> i'm not sure, i quickly have to reboot to get from my testing to my working env and then i'll get back to you
[16:32] <micahg> ochosi: I also wanted to make sure the category should be there according to the spec
[16:32] <ochosi> i'll try to communicate with upstream directly and see whether we can fix it before the release
[16:32] <ochosi> hm yeah, probably taking a look at the spec beforehands makes sense :)
[16:32] <ochosi> brb
[16:40] <ochosi> micahg: so we have to check the fd.org specs for icons, right?
[16:41] <micahg> ochosi: idk :)
[16:41] <ochosi> lol
[16:41] <ochosi> two experts talking :)
[16:41] <micahg> I'm just starting to get involved here :)
[16:41] <ochosi> micahg: http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html   go to "Table 5."
[16:42] <ochosi> what apps are using the category education?
[16:42] <micahg> just anki ATM, which leads me to believe it's wrong
[16:42] <ochosi> right, never heard of anki before
[16:42] <ochosi> probably file the bug there ,)
[16:43] <charlie-tca> um, gcompris uses Education too
[16:43] <charlie-tca> It is an application aimed at helping kids learn the computer
[16:44] <charlie-tca> as well as teaching numbers and alphabet
[16:45] <ochosi> hm, well somehow it doesn't seem fd.org compliant to use that category
[16:46] <ochosi> but hey, basically anyone can create categories as they please :)
[16:46] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu uses education also
[16:47] <ochosi> to the worst we can fix that bug by throwing ubuntu's education icon into elementaryXubuntu
[16:48] <charlie-tca> That might be the best way to do it, there are other education applications, but I can't remember them now
[16:48] <charlie-tca> and, I just re-formatted the drive with them... :-(
[16:48] <micahg> maybe we should ask dobey since he wrote the spec :)
[16:49] <ochosi> micahg: sure, go ahead :)
[16:49] <charlie-tca> the other side will be the number of reports we get based on the category without an icon
[16:50] <micahg> charlie-tca: well, if the category shouldn't be there, we should fix the packages
[16:50] <charlie-tca> Great idea. Can we start with gcompris, which I install for kids to use?
[16:51] <micahg> charlie-tca: sure, I can fix it, once we confirm where the issue is
[17:08] <charlie-tca> I take it back, Ubuntu no longer uses menus for anything
[17:10] <ochosi> :)
[17:28] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit, ochosi : slideshow in today's desktop image is only the last page
[17:30] <charlie-tca> hm, then it appears to actually start and go throguh slides
[17:31] <charlie-tca> micahg: yes, pidgin starts from the indicator-plugin on the live desktop
[17:55] <mr_pouit> slideshows haven't been touched yet, anyway
[17:55] <charlie-tca> they are acting weird for some reason
[17:55] <mr_pouit> micahg: if it's not supposed to be here, I can remove the education category from the default xubuntu menu file
[17:56] <mr_pouit> but afaik, this category exists and is valid
[17:56] <charlie-tca> It starts as a blank, goes to the last page, then starts over and works
[17:56] <micahg> mr_pouit: yeah, I'll have to talk to dobey, it's not on the freedesktop spec
[17:56] <mr_pouit> http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html
[17:56] <mr_pouit> it's here, at least
[17:57] <micahg> mr_pouit: ah, that's probably the more recent one, ochosi gave me an outdated link :)
[17:57] <mr_pouit> no, that wasn't the same spec
[17:57] <mr_pouit> (icon vs. menu)
[17:57] <micahg> mr_pouit: how do we resolve the 2
[17:58] <mr_pouit> hehe
[18:03] <micahg> mr_pouit: I got the ACK from mythbuntu on updating xfce4-mixer, I'll file the paperwork soon, builds fine as well, but needs merge due to epoch
[18:03] <micahg> mr_pouit: do you have a branch for it, or can I just upload?
[18:06] <charlie-tca> At least I don't need Alt+sysRq+k to get the desktop in Xubuntu
[18:07] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: desktop image works today; install completed without crashes; restarted to the desktop without crashes
[18:07] <charlie-tca> ochosi: got two workspaces in the live cd, 4 workspaces in the installed desktop
[18:09] <mr_pouit> micahg: I used bzr branches for one release, and then I threw everything to /dev/null, the launchpad importer was never up to date when I needed it
[18:10] <mr_pouit> so, no branch
[18:10] <micahg> mr_pouit: heh, ok, do you want to maintain in Debian git?
[18:10] <micahg> or is it not worth it for these minor diffs?
[18:11] <mr_pouit> yeah, we'll put branches in debian git, when pkg-xfce uses it too (for the moment it's still svn and no migration has been planned ;-)
[18:11] <mr_pouit> I don't even remember why xfce4-mixer has an epoch
[18:11] <mr_pouit> iirc, it's not even said in debian/changelog
[18:11] <mr_pouit> that's a great epic fail
[18:12] <mr_pouit> so feel free to upload directly
[18:12] <mr_pouit> charlie-tca: nice, thanks for testing
[18:12] <micahg> mr_pouit:  * Sync with os-works.com.
[18:12] <micahg> almost 6 yrs ago
[18:15] <mr_pouit> micahg: where do you see that?  Nothing else works
[18:54] <Sysi> i think there's been automatic reload since like 2.0, but i dunno how to use it
[18:55] <charlie-tca> which makes it useless?
[18:55] <Sysi> i've never needed it..
[18:56] <Sysi> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/reloadevery/
[18:57] <charlie-tca> not built in, ?
[18:57] <Sysi> apparently
[19:05] <micahg> charlie-tca: idk, ask chrisccoulson about that


[03:58] <alireza> How can I update mac address throigh ifconfig?
[04:05] <JoeBk> alireza, why would you want to change mac address?
[04:09] <JoeBk> alireza, https://www.linuxfordevices.com/tutorials/ubuntu/spoof-mac-address
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> !info macchanger
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> see also^
[04:14] <armadefuego> hw class address
[04:14] <armadefuego>               Set the hardware address of this interface, if  the  device  driver  supports  this
[04:14] <armadefuego>               operation.
[04:14] <armadefuego> taken from _man ifconfig_
[04:15] <armadefuego> If you are using it for privacy reasons realize that it doesn't afford much.
[04:22] <LoUDcLoUD> good evening
[04:23] <LoUDcLoUD> why they aren't  Ubuntu updates?
[04:23] <LoUDcLoUD> *there
[04:27] <Bashing-om> LoUDcLoUD: What release are you on ? - there were updates this day in focal for me.
[04:29] <JoeBk> LoUDcLoUD, type:  sudo apt update
[04:30] <JoeBk> if there are updates abailable, type: sudo apt upgrade
[04:31] <LoUDcLoUD> no updates
[04:31] <LoUDcLoUD> all packages up to date
[04:31] <LoUDcLoUD> been like 1 month like this
[04:31] <LoUDcLoUD> is it normal?
[04:32] <JoeBk> what version of ubuntu are you on?
[04:32] <JoeBk> no it's not normal
[04:32] <Bashing-om> LoUDcLoUD: Please show the output of ' cat /etc/issue '.
[04:33] <LoUDcLoUD> hirsute
[04:34] <Bashing-om> !hirsute
[04:34] <LoUDcLoUD> ohhhhhhhhh
[04:34] <LoUDcLoUD> is there a new version?
[04:34] <Bashing-om> !eol | LoUDcLoUD
[04:34] <JoeBk> latest LTS version is 20.04.4
[04:36] <JoeBk> He's not using an LTS version.
[04:36] <JoeBk> not good!
[04:52] <wez> :O
[04:52] <wez> LTS <3   I have never looked into it, but how expensive is ESM?
[04:55] <Bashing-om> wez: Free for 3 machines. Moreso for those of Ubuneu membersup status.
[04:55] <Bashing-om> !esm | wez
[04:57] <wez> Thank you Bashing-om!
[04:58] <Bashing-om> wez: :D
[04:58] <wez> 5 gold stars for you!
[05:52] <Lebela> hi
[05:52] <Lebela> I have recorded some videos using "open camera" (an app) on my Android phone
[05:52] <Lebela> now, after transferring them onto my Linux computer, they cannot be played
[05:53] <Lebela> "moov atom not found"   is the error
[05:53] <Lebela> so, I naturally used "untrunc" to fix it,  but,  even untrunc failed fixing it.
[05:53] <Lebela> The main thing I wonder about is:  Why can the video be played on Android but not on Linux?
[05:53] <Lebela> it plays just fine on my phone
[05:53] <Lebela> the md5 sums are identical on my phone and my computer
[05:56] <Lebela> I tried it on both,  Ubuntu and Debian - it fails on both Linux distros
[05:56] <Lebela> but it always works on Android
[06:06] <alkisg> Missing codecs. Try playing them with VLC.
[06:07] <Lebela> alkisg, not working in vlc, mpv, ffplay
[06:07] <Lebela> alkisg, the codec is h264 (in theory)
[06:07] <alkisg> Lebela: go to file information and see the codec
[06:07] <alkisg> Erhm. And what's the vlc output if you run it from the console?
[06:08] <Lebela> moov atom not found
[06:08] <Lebela> why is the moov atom working on Android then?  And not on linux?
[06:08] <Lebela> that makes no sense.  And the md5sums are identical
[06:08] <alkisg> Apart from that message, do you see anything else?
[06:09] <Lebela> nothing worth mentioning
[06:09] <Lebela> it's definitely the moov atom
[06:09] <alkisg> Try to play it with vlc, then paste all the output to pastebin
[06:09] <Lebela> ok
[06:12] <Lebela> alkisg, the output only contains stuff I'd need to censor (e.g. filenames)
[06:12] <Lebela> the ONLY errors are the moov atom and:  "Unknown error<PHONE_NUMBER>"
[06:12] <Lebela> and this unknown error also refers to the moov atom
[06:12] <alkisg> What's the output of ffprobe /path/to/video ?
[06:13] <Lebela> moov atom not found
[06:13] <Lebela> Invalid data found when processing input
[06:14] <Lebela> why can't untrunc write to my external HD ?
[06:14] <Lebela> I already connected the snap....  "snap connect michaelp-anthwlock-untrunc:removable-media"
[07:42] <biglinux> hi dude
[07:59] <iomari891> greetings, will installing patheon desktop in any way conflict with kubuntu? latest version of both.
[08:21] <geirha> Looks like that has to be installed via a PPA..? if so, it depends on how well the package(s) in that PPA are put together. For the desktop environments available through Ubuntus official repos, there's no conflict. You just get to choose between one more DE from the login screen
[08:35] <alocer[m]> Hello all, Since This week is uubntu testing week, i like to know if there is any channels for it?
[09:09] <iomari891> geirha: thanks
[09:36] <luna> ay, and it went fine, to remove 6 packages and add 256 other ones :)
[09:36] <luna> Updated from Ubuntu MATE 20.04.2 to 20.04.4 yesterday, and it went fine, to remove 6 packages and add 256 other ones :)
[10:28] <menthasys> ciao a tutti, stavo provando a cambiare la password di root e pensavo di esserci riuscito ma al riavvio della macchina continua a prendere la vecchia password come se non avessi fatto nulla
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> !it | menthasys
[10:43] <menthasys> chiedo scusa
[13:21] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:21] <wez> oh hai there BluesKaj!
[13:22] <BluesKaj> hey wez
[13:23] <wez> What's the latest BluesKaj ?
[13:23] <BluesKaj> wez, dunno , just got here :-)
[13:24] <wez> BluesKaj: I meant with you, I know what's happening here as I am in here :)
[13:24] <wez> you just joined so I don't like what you are up to
[13:25] <BluesKaj> morning coffee atm
[13:25] <wez> Good choice, I am about to get some ZzZzZzz
[13:26] <BluesKaj> sleep weel then
[13:26] <BluesKaj> well rather
[13:26] <wez> It is the morning here too, but just barely
[13:26] <wez> Happy Thursday btw
[13:27] <ghost> finally switched to ubuntu today.........................................
[13:28] <BluesKaj> ghost, congrats
[13:28] <ghost> thanks..
[13:28] <Glitzer> what were you on before, ghost?
[13:28] <ghost> windows 11..hehe
[14:13] <waltman> Hi. I've got a broken symlink on my desktop. I've logged back into the network share and the symlink is no longer broken, but it still shows as broken on the desktop. Is there any way to tell it "hey, this isn't broken anymore"?
[14:15] <BluesKaj> a relogin ?
[14:16] <alocer[m]> alt+f2 and type R press enter.
[14:16] <schuelermine[m]> Does Ubuntu use GDM?
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> schuelermine[m]: ubuntu desktop with gnome uses gdm3
[14:20] <schuelermine[m]> Thanks
[14:21] <schuelermine[m]> How does Ubuntu apply a theme to GDM? I want to reproduce it in a different context but all I can find are instructions for pre-Gnome-3 using gnome-appearance-properties
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> !themes | schuelermine[m]
[14:22] <schuelermine[m]> I know how to apply themes to the desktop using User Themes, but how do you do it in GDM?
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> schuelermine[m]: use at own risk, https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2021/10/login-screen-background-ubuntu-21-10/
[14:23] <Maik> schuelermine[m]: it's probably not that easy with GDM3
[14:24] <schuelermine[m]> Yeah, but how does Ubuntu do it by default? Is GDM compiled differently?
[14:25] <waltman> So there's no way to fix this aside from logging out or killing processes?
[14:26] <waltman> Honestly I've got workarounds to access the file and I'd rather not have to log out if I don't have to.
[14:27] <waltman> I wasn't sure if this was an actual bug or if there was some way reset it. Sounds like it's a bug.
[14:27] <Maik> schuelermine[m]: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1227070/how-do-i-change-login-screen-theme-or-background-in-ubuntu-20-04
[14:27] <Maik> maybe that helps
[14:28] <schuelermine> That doesn’t help, since that’s a case where gdm is already configured to look at the theme under “Yaru”. How do you change the theme *to* Yaru from Adwaita in the first place?
[14:30] <Maik> https://www.linuxuprising.com/2021/05/how-to-change-gdm3-login-screen-greeter.html
[14:31] <Maik> schuelermine[m]: maybe best to search for it on the web, i don't know the answers to that. :)
[14:31] <schuelermine> OK
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> schuelermine: to easy theme management, install gnome-tweaks
[14:32] <schuelermine[m]> On gdm?
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> no, to switch regular themes
[14:33] <Maik> lotuspsychje: gnome tweaks doesn't let you modify GDM
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> i know
[14:34] <Maik> and that is what the user wants
[14:34] <MaximB> Hi, is there a way to see if a root password has been set at all? (not change it or create a new password, just check if it was set)
[14:43] <waltman> Update: The icon fixed itself without my doing anything!
[14:47] <aether_> hello
[14:50] <aether> hey
[14:51] <Maik> Hi and welcome aether: if you have a Ubuntu support question just ask, casual talk is in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[14:52] <aether> quit
[14:52] <aether> clear
[14:59] <henstepl> Hello friends
[15:00] <henstepl> I have somehow installed Mono 6.8 and Mono 6.12 at once and now Apt is complaining about everything: E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[15:01] <henstepl> ANd apt --fix-broken install doesn't work either. I don't even care anymore. I want all of these to go away so I can update/upgrade again.
[15:16] <leftyfb> henstepl: ( cat /etc/os-release ; apt-cache policy mono-runtime ; sudo apt install -f ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:33] <beuys> Hello! For a while now, updates have been failing here: I get this error: Error 24 : Write error : cannot write compressed block
[15:33] <beuys> Could it be that my boot partition is full? Can I remove old kernels or something?
[15:35] <oerheks> apt autoremove could clean up, and old kernels are removed with the next update
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> beuys: could you pastebin the whole output apt gives you, volunteers might be able to debug a better way
[15:35] <oerheks> df -h # shows how much space is free?
[15:36] <genii> That's usually an update-initramfs message
[15:36] <beuys> lotuspsychje: Meanwhile I am pretty sure /boot/ is full. df -h shows 100% used.
[15:37] <oerheks> oh, standard ubuntu installs in one partition, to avoid that clutter
[15:39]  * beuys tries "apt purge linux-image-5.11.0-41-generic"
[15:39] <oerheks> why posting in 2 channels?
[16:44] <svm_invictvs> Heya
[16:44] <svm_invictvs> What do I need to install to get a joypad working in Ubuntu?
[16:46] <Ravage> most of them you just plug in. i think we need a little more information. Ubuntu version, model of your gamepad
[16:46] <Ravage> wired or BT
[16:59] <jhutchins> svm_invictvs: https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/get-game-controllers-running-linux/
[17:18] <dirtcastle> guys I messed up my partition table.
[17:18] <dirtcastle> i haven't switched off my pc
[17:18] <dirtcastle> my root and home folder is messed up
[17:19] <dirtcastle> the partition on which my root and home folder is messed up was there was deleted.
[17:19] <dirtcastle> does ubuntu make a backup?
[17:19] <dirtcastle> of partition table automatically
[17:20] <Ravage> no
[17:21] <Ravage> if you can still access your data make a backup now
[17:22] <jhutchins> dirtcastle: What were you doing that caused the problems/
[17:22] <jhutchins> ?
[17:27] <dirtcastle> i was trying to install gentoo. I'm new to linux itself but I wanted to learn step by step slowly and be able to use it.  when I installed ubuntu I followed a yt tutorial . there was an extended partion of 100 gb and 20 gb was give to root and 80gb for home. when I used parted print It showed 3 seperate partition. I thought that 100gb was not being used and deleted it. in the end I saw the start and end of extended and root and home and I realised the
[17:27] <dirtcastle> were inside extended and I just deleted it
[17:27] <dirtcastle> jhutchins:
[17:28] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: i just joined, are you trying to solve that problem or you already fixed it?
[17:28] <dirtcastle> I'm trying to solve it. i downloaded testdisk but I'm still clueless
[17:29] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: no need, you only need to recreate the extended partition the same place as before
[17:30] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: can you type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' and paste the result?
[17:30] <dirtcastle> I did that cannot get it exactly right. I have the parted print free output before I deleted.
[17:30] <EriC^^> nice please paste that, as well as the current parted -l output
[17:31] <dirtcastle> https://paste.rs/OZK
[17:31] <dirtcastle> before
[17:32] <EriC^^> ok
[17:33] <dirtcastle> https://paste.rs/AHI
[17:33] <dirtcastle> current
[17:34] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: ok, type 'sudo fdisk /dev/sda'
[17:35] <dirtcastle> I have 2 ssd. I dual booted. parted -l gives me the output from other ssd it has windows.
[17:35] <EriC^^> no worries
[17:35] <dirtcastle> done
[17:36] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: press 'n' to create a new partition
[17:36] <dirtcastle> done
[17:36] <dirtcastle>  e extended?
[17:37] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:38] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: is it asking what the starting sector is yet?
[17:38] <dirtcastle> after e it asks partition number right now
[17:38] <dirtcastle> ok. I gave 2 because that was what there before
[17:38] <dirtcastle> now it asks sector
[17:39] <EriC^^> gotcha
[17:40] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: what's the sector range it's giving you?
[17:40] <dirtcastle><PHONE_NUMBER>73167
[17:41] <dirtcastle> first sector:
[17:41] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: try putting 1001470
[17:42] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: for last sector, just hit enter and keep it blank so it uses the maximum
[17:42] <EriC^^> when you get the prompt back, press 'p'
[17:43] <dirtcastle> done
[17:44] <EriC^^> what's the table look like currently?
[17:45] <dirtcastle> https://paste.rs/NGN
[17:46] <EriC^^> page not found
[17:47] <dirtcastle> my bad https://paste.rs/N6N
[17:50] <dirtcastle> 🤔 is smtg wrong
[17:52] <dirtcastle> EriC^^:
[17:52] <EriC^^> yeah i dunno what went wrong, the free space is huge between them, anyways i think it's better to use testdisk as you said, i thought it was going to simpler partition layout, my bad
[17:53] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: quit fdisk without saving anything, then sudo apt-get install testdisk
[17:53] <EriC^^> then type sudo testdisk /dev/sda
[17:53] <dirtcastle> I have test disk
[17:53] <dirtcastle> ok
[17:53] <EriC^^> ok cool, run it, choose no log
[17:54] <dirtcastle> yup?
[17:54] <EriC^^> then choose 'intel' for partition table type
[17:54] <dirtcastle> yup
[17:54] <EriC^^> (that just means msdos)
[17:54] <EriC^^> then analyse
[17:54] <dirtcastle> done
[17:54] <EriC^^> then quick search
[17:55] <dirtcastle> done
[17:55] <dirtcastle>  searching.
[17:55] <EriC^^> alright, once it's done please paste the results it gave
[17:58] <dirtcastle> EriC^^: https://paste.rs/d3t
[18:00] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: great, it found them
[18:00] <dirtcastle> nice.
[18:00] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: leave a "*" next to the swap one, so its the primary partition
[18:00] <dirtcastle> which is swap one
[18:01] <EriC^^> the first one
[18:01] <dirtcastle> just the first one
[18:01] <dirtcastle> ok
[18:01] <dirtcastle> it's already star
[18:01] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: yup, the 2nd ones, press the arrow to make it L
[18:02] <dirtcastle> yup. for the remaining two or just the second one?
[18:02] <EriC^^> remaining two
[18:02] <EriC^^> if you want you could make them primary partitions
[18:02] <EriC^^> you could leave them P
[18:03] <EriC^^> just remembered
[18:04] <dirtcastle> ok got it. if I leave them as logical will it become a part of a extended partition automatically? cause I think u need a extended partition and only inside that u can have a logical one.
[18:04] <dirtcastle> for now I will leave them as P I don't mind tho.
[18:04] <EriC^^> yeah exactly, i dont know what testdisk would do, it does have an "E" i think for the extended but it doesnt seem to list it
[18:04] <EriC^^> yeah good idea
[18:06] <dirtcastle> so continue?
[18:06] <chilversc> Any estimates on when 5.17 will be released under hwe once 22.04 LTS is released?
[18:06] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: yeah, press continue, then 'write'
[18:06] <dirtcastle> yup done
[18:08] <EriC^^> ok, type 'sudo partprobe /dev/sda' to load the new table
[18:08] <dirtcastle> amazing. I got it just like how it was before. EriC^^ : Thanks for your time. u saved me
[18:08] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: great, no problem
[18:09] <dirtcastle> I have run partprobe.  is that all?
[18:09] <EriC^^> yeah, if you want, try to mount them sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[18:10] <dirtcastle> sda2 doesn't exist?
[18:11] <dirtcastle> should I rebooted?
[18:11] <dirtcastle> reboot?
[18:11] <EriC^^> hmm, partprobe should load them up
[18:12] <EriC^^> how's sudo parted -ls looking?
[18:12] <dirtcastle> https://paste.rs/Rl1
[18:13] <EriC^^> looks good
[18:13] <EriC^^> try rebooting
[18:20] <craigbass76> Is there a way, in the GUI, to avoid a right-click when I'm trying to rename a file? Is there a keyboard button I can press?
[18:22] <EriC^^> craigbass76: the context key on the keyboard then 'm'
[18:23] <craigbass76> Context key... I'm trying alt, ctrl, and the windows key. Nadda so far.
[18:24] <craigbass76> EriC^^:
[18:24] <EriC^^> craigbass76: mine's between alt and ctrl to the right, you could use 'shift+f10' if you want too
[18:25] <dirtcastle> EriC^^:  I ran the partprobe and mount command   . is there anything left?
[18:25] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: nope that's all
[18:26] <dirtcastle> nice. again thanks for ur time!!
[18:26] <EriC^^> you're welcome
[18:39] <craigbass76> That pops up the same menu as right click. I'm done now, but I was trying to use my mouse to highlight the file, hit a key to get in to edit the name, and then not have to move the mouse again, just click. I was having to insert a zero in every pdf filename in a directory.
[19:35] <n00bl3t> Hello, in system dialogues that look like this: https://i.imgur.com/JE3ZBW0.png Do the underlined letters in the options indicate anything?
[19:37] <genii> Yes, keyboard shortcuts are available if you use CTRL and that letter
[19:37] <leftyfb> n00bl3t: you can hold ALT + <LETTER> to selection the option with your keyboard
[19:37] <genii> or ALT, I alwAys forget which
[19:37] <n00bl3t> Ah thank you! (I just checked, it's alt)
[19:37] <n00bl3t> That should speed up my workflow quite a bit
[20:13] <oerheks> !btrfs
[20:31] <josias_> soy josias
[20:34] <raub> the pulseaudio process in an ubuntu 20 vm I have is using 10% of the CPU. Since I do not use sound in that VM, can I uninstall it?
[20:46] <jhutchins> raub: Uninstalling pulseaudio has always been a good idea.  If you have a GUI desktop, it's possible that it will complain.
[20:51] <Guest2866> Hello \o/
[20:54] <Guest2866> I'm using Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS and the laptop started to freeze. I randomly see the screen glitch and afterward, the desktop is not responding. It seems like the Xserver / graphic card issue, but I suspect my power adapter cable might be causing this via static electricity. Could you help my find relevant logs to understand what exactly is happening?
[21:00] <Guest2866> I opened the native Logs app and the last message is "gnome-session-b: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry....", but wtf can I figure out from this error?
[21:01] <sarnold> wow
[21:24] <jhutchins> Could I have a moment alone with that gnome developer and a cricket bat please?
[21:27] <pycurious> I've a ubuntu machine which has / with only 10G space on it. Is there a way to make sure that most of the things goto /datadrive? For example docker etc - even apt installs?
[21:29] <pycurious> or perhaps I can extend "/" to spill over on "/datadrive"?
[21:56] <jhutchins> pycurious: I would recommend repartitioning to a sane layout.
[21:57] <jhutchins> pycurious: You'd be far better off working iwth the standard Linux Filesystem Hierarchy rather than trying to munge it into an abstract layout.
[21:58] <jhutchins> pycurious: It's not unusual for applications to have paths hard coded internally.
[21:59] <jhutchins> pycurious: Partitioning mainly serves to ensure that the space you need will be on the wrong partition.
[22:13] <XATRIX> Hi, can you advice, i had some crash, and tried to fix ext4 fs errors. but after the system start i have many services down, and dmesg says : https://imgur.com/9cbgdPT.png
[22:13] <XATRIX> Any idea how to fix that ?
[22:14] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: aw man
[22:14] <XATRIX> yea :(
[22:14] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: I need to go and play oldschool Quake now
[22:14] <XATRIX> O_o
[22:14] <XATRIX> np. have fun
[22:14] <gordonjcp> let me see if I can suggest anything for your problem real quick while pak0.pak downloads
[22:15] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: you *are* named after the Quake mission pack right?
[22:15] <Ravage> XATRIX: this looks like a VM?
[22:15] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: I think you'll need to boot that VM single-user and fsck that partition
[22:15] <XATRIX> you mean my nickname ? don't you ?
[22:15] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: yes
[22:16] <XATRIX> Ravage: yeap. QEMU on proxmox
[22:16] <XATRIX> go4godvin: Syberia , Panasonic 3DO ;)
[22:16] <XATRIX> gordonjcp: sorry :) it's for you
[22:16] <Ravage> yep. boot a livecd. i like to use the gentoo live iso for that. but any rescue/live linux should do
[22:17] <Ravage> try to repair the filesystem from there
[22:17] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: you've got control of the host machine then?
[22:18] <Ravage> the I/O error is still strange. so also look if maybe your proxmox storage is working correctly too
[22:18] <gordonjcp> yeah
[22:18] <gordonjcp> I feel like that could be a red herring
[22:18] <XATRIX> gordonjcp: yeap
[22:19] <Ravage> i know that there was a kernel problem in proxmox 7 that caused such errors in the virtio scsi devices
[22:19] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: so
[22:19] <Ravage> so make sure you are updated and reboot after that
[22:20] <Ravage> (the host)
[22:20] <boblamont> I've got a major problem. I updated php and now my wordpress site died
[22:20] <Ravage> boblamont: you dont get any major updates within a Ubuntu release
[22:21] <XATRIX> My virtual disk of this VM is on LVM on a host machine
[22:22] <XATRIX> it's quite hard to check for consistency
[22:22] <boblamont> Ravage: i had php 7.2, I updated to 7.4, it still worked
[22:22] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: not really
[22:22] <Ravage> XATRIX: you should be able to do the check on block device of the host then
[22:22] <Ravage> but you are already in #proxmox
[22:22] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: is the lvm slice presented to the VM as a whole disk, which is then partitioned?
[22:23] <boblamont> Ravage: then when I did a general update, it updated php to 8.1
[22:23] <Ravage> that is really a topic you can discuss there :)
[22:23] <XATRIX> take a look please https://imgur.com/V5y516L.png
[22:23] <Ravage> boblamont: there is no Ubuntu release that is supported here with PHP 8.1
[22:24] <sarnold> boblamont: you upgraded to jammy? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php8.1
[22:24] <boblamont> how do I go back to 7.4?
[22:24] <sarnold> boblamont: normally software authors don't support releases until after they're released
[22:24] <XATRIX> suddenly, i found the problem. it looks like it ran out of space
[22:24] <sarnold> boblamont: roll back to focal? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php7.4
[22:24] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: that'd do it
[22:24] <XATRIX> https://imgur.com/6QdE2Ek.png
[22:25] <leftyfb> boblamont: cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:25] <Ravage> XATRIX: have a look at kpartx to get the partitions of your disk-00 devices. but we should continue in #proxmox
[22:25] <oerheks> https://thisinterestsme.com/wordpress-extensions-php-8/
[22:25] <oerheks> maybe a help for php8.1
[22:25] <XATRIX> got it thanks
[22:25] <gordonjcp> Ravage: you can do that with loopback devices
[22:26] <Ravage> true. it does the same thing
[22:26] <XATRIX> give some time. i'll try to free some space, and restart that staff
[22:26] <oerheks> another hint; https://toggen.com.au/it-tips/updating-wordpress-divi-to-php8-1-x-on-ubuntu-20-04/
[22:27] <boblamont> I lost connection to the server I got as far as "maybe a help for php8.1"
[22:27] <boblamont> anyone offer anything after that?
[22:27] <leftyfb> boblamont: cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:27] <boblamont> leftyfb: what does that do?
[22:28] <leftyfb> boblamont: it will show us the release of ubuntu you are running
[22:28] <Ravage> you can also just paste the output of "cat /etc/os-release". its one line
[22:28] <Ravage> oh its not.sorry
[22:28] <boblamont> leftyfb: i'm running 18.04.6 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.15.0-169-generic x86_64)
[22:29] <Ravage> boblamont: then you added external sources for PHP?
[22:29] <boblamont> yes
[22:29] <Ravage> on only PPA i know for that is ondrej
[22:29] <boblamont> that's the one
[22:29] <Ravage> and that offers all version
[22:29] <Ravage> so remove all php8.1* packages
[22:29] <Ravage> install the php7.4 ones
[22:29] <leftyfb> boblamont: you'll want to purge the PPA and it's packages you used to install php. Then reinstall php7.2 from the official repo's. Anything else is unsupported
[22:30] <Ravage> or go back to what 18.04 offers
[22:30] <leftyfb> 7.2
[22:30] <Ravage> but in general the PPA should work fine too
[22:30] <boblamont> I need 7.3 or higher, is  that possible? 7.4 was working ok, except wordpress didn't see it
[22:31] <Ravage> its really as simple as "apt remove" and "apt install"
[22:31] <leftyfb> boblamont: if you need php7.4, I would recommend upgrading to Ubuntu 20.04 and get it from official sources
[22:31] <Ravage> you must have followed some guide to do the updare
[22:31] <leftyfb> Ravage: ppa-purge would be better
[22:32] <Ravage> if he wants 7.4 on 18.04 he will need the ppa
[22:32] <leftyfb> sure, get to a clean slate and then reinstall 7.4 from the unsupported PPA
[22:32] <Ravage> but sure. upgrade to 20.04 is a good idea
[22:32] <boblamont> I don't care at this point, i'll take 7.2, how do I do ppa purge?
[22:33] <leftyfb> boblamont: apt list --installed |grep php | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:34] <boblamont> https://termbin.com/uh14
[22:35] <Ravage> that is some mix of versions :)
[22:35] <Ravage> 7.4 seems to be installed
[22:35] <Ravage> do you run it on apache?
[22:35] <boblamont> yes
[22:35] <Ravage> then use a2dismod
[22:35] <Ravage> to disable php 8
[22:36] <leftyfb> boblamont: you have a sury.org ppa enabled
[22:36] <Ravage> and a2enmod to enable the 7.4 module
[22:37] <boblamont> Ravage: whate exactly do I enter to dismod?
[22:37] <Ravage> after an apache restart and a little luck your site should be up again
[22:38] <Ravage> a2dismod [enter]
[22:38] <Ravage> shows a list
[22:38] <Ravage> choose the 8.1 module
[22:38] <Ravage> do the same with a2enmod and php7.4
[22:39] <boblamont> Your choices are: access_compat alias auth_basic authn_core authn_file authz_core authz_host authz_user autoindex deflate dir env filter mime mpm_prefork negotiation php7.2 proxy proxy_fcgi reqtimeout rewrite setenvif socache_shmcb ssl status
[22:40] <Ravage> so you should be still running php7.2
[22:40] <Ravage> if you want 7.4 disable 7.2 and enable 7.4
[22:42] <boblamont> this is what killed the site a2enconf php8.1-fpm
[22:43] <Ravage> i dont see that module enabled
[22:43] <Ravage> oh its a config
[22:43] <Ravage> then revert that
[22:43] <Ravage> a2disconf
[22:43] <Ravage> and see if there is a 7.4-fpm config in a2enconf
[22:44] <Ravage> i dont know your original setup so this is kind of a guessing game now
[22:44] <boblamont> oh thank god, it worked
[22:44] <Ravage> great :)
[22:45] <boblamont> actually thank you guys, it was you, not a diety
[22:45] <boblamont> there may yet be a thing, hold on... let me log in to the admin area
[22:46] <boblamont> yeah, wordpress still sees 7.2, not 7.4
[22:47] <Ravage> find out if you run php as fpm or with the apache module
[22:47] <Ravage> you may have configured both
[22:47] <Ravage> i still see php7.2 i a2dismod
[22:48] <Ravage> *in a2dismod
[22:48] <boblamont> I didn't even have fpm installed but someone in the worfpress group said the I had to restart it to get wordpress to see that I went to 7.4
[22:49] <boblamont> so I don't think i even need it, do I?
[22:49] <Ravage> ok. then use a2disconf to remove all php configs
[22:49] <Ravage> disable php7.2 in a2dismod
[22:49] <Ravage> and enable php7.4 in a2enmod
[22:55] <boblamont> I disabled 7.2 and enabled 7.4 and then got this in my wordpress Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL extension which is required by WordPress
[22:55] <Ravage> apt install php7.4-mysql
[22:55] <Ravage> and maybe check other modules in the requirements
[22:55] <Ravage> dont forget to restart apache
[22:56] <Ravage> usual suspects are mbstring, xml, curl, gd
[22:56] <Ravage> so make sure those are installed
[22:57] <boblamont> I need gd, there are some other optional ones
[22:59] <boblamont> got gd, now it says the only stuff are optional
[23:00] <boblamont> I updated the plugin that wanted 7.3 or higher
[23:00] <boblamont> is there any reason not to install the optional modules?
[23:01] <Ravage> Go for it
[23:02] <boblamont> mind if I ask what these do and if they really seem necessary? I'm not exactly feeling bold...
[23:04] <Ravage> I think explaining PHP modules goes a little far for this channel. Google will give you a lot information about them. The ones I listed are safe to enable
[23:05] <boblamont> ok
[23:06] <yhirose3>    /buffer 6


[09:59] <DarkSun88> Hi all
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> someone please see bug 125092
[11:14] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 125092 in firefox-granparadiso "firefox-granparadiso does not delete search engines" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125092
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> imho, it can be rejected because of the workaround in the bug it references
[11:48] <asac> hjmf: cool .,.. however you don't get the mails anymore, right?
[11:51] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: i have no idea what he is talking about :)
[11:51] <asac> but maybe i just need to have a smoke
[11:52] <asac> thats what i will do now :)
[04:00] <hjmf> asac: no, I don't get private bug mail, but that's no big problem if I review them through the web or even using py-lp-bugs "last comment" :)
[04:08] <asac> hjmf: great
[04:09] <asac> if you have suggestions how our workflow can be improved let me know
[04:09] <asac> hjmf: btw, what abut the "mark as duplicate of already existing duplicate (master)" feature for apport retracers?
[04:10] <asac> hjmf: we started once, but then we dropped the ball on this :)
[12:15] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: there was a bug with grandparadiso abuot no search engines by default
[12:15] <Admiral_Chicago> they found a workaround
[12:15] <Admiral_Chicago> but that creates a bug


[20:23] <Riot_> Looking for Linux users in Central Arkasnas
[20:24] <Riot_> Place is dead guess I'll try to visit back on Tuesday.


[08:25] <PaulGit> vds: Ping
[09:11] <vds> PaulGit: pong
[09:16] <brad[]> I folks, I mistakenly signed up for services on the wrong account, and two days ago requested correction of this with no reply...
[09:21] <PaulGit> vds: I have added some new logs to bug, I have left phone and thunderbird as is just in case you want be to check anything, but it does look like U1 is adding dupe
[09:22] <vds> PaulGit: thanks! I'll take a look, now we also have new logs and log tools ready, I don't think they are in production already but will be very soon
[09:33] <PaulGit> vds: Great! Just ping me if you need me to do anything!
[09:39] <vds> PaulGit: yes, from the logs looks like U1 is sending you the contact two times, that's pretty strange. I'll check if the new logs will be deployed today and let you know, thanks a lot!
[09:46] <PaulGit> vds: No problem, I'm here to help anyway I can!
[10:35] <leighman> hey guys
[10:35] <leighman> can anyone help me get connected?
[10:42] <rye> leighman, hi, what is your distribution version?
[10:46] <leighman> Lucid
[10:46] <leighman> tho it didn't work in the Karmic I've upgraded from either :P
[10:47] <rye> leighman, could you please pastebin the output of u1sdtool --status ?
[10:51] <leighman> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/UUX1RQWx
[11:05] <rye> leighman, ok, basically you need to connect, could you please try running u1sdtool --connect ?
[11:05] <rye> leighman, one more, what's the content of ~/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf ?
[11:07] <leighman> [bandwidth_throttling]
[11:07] <leighman> read_limit = 2097152
[11:07] <leighman> write_limit = 2097152
[11:07] <leighman> on = False
[11:07] <leighman> u1sdtool --connect just appears to run
[11:07] <leighman> no error message
[11:09] <rye> leighman, ok, what's the u1sdtool --status now?
[11:10] <leighman> same as before
[11:13] <rye> leighman, ok, could you please pastebin the contents of ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log ?
[11:24] <leighman> http://home.leighman.operaunite.com/tempbin/?id=0&pass=TLWnSAN9uc3e&act=show
[11:29] <leighman> thanks for your help, btw
[11:30] <rye> leighman, hm, are you running anything as root ? ... it looks like it did not receive the request to connect
[11:31] <rye> ah, no
[11:31] <rye> ok, it got the request, but it did not attempt to
[11:32] <rye> leighman, ok, let's try from clear start - u1sdtool -q should force it to quit
[11:32] <leighman> ok
[11:35] <rye> leighman, after that could you please run u1sdtool --connect - that will start syncdaemon and force connection... Btw, is any of your machines listed on https://one.ubuntu.com/account/machines/
[11:36] <leighman> it says I haven't added any devices there
[11:37] <leighman> okay
[11:37] <leighman> did that
[11:37] <leighman> my Ubuntu One folder still has a sad cloud :P
[11:39] <leighman> u1sdtool --status same as ever :/
[11:42] <rye> leighman, what is your default browser?
[11:42] <leighman> opera
[11:42] <rye> leighman, could you please tell the version?
[11:43] <leighman> on set as default is 10.10
[11:45] <leighman> the one*
[11:51] <rye> leighman, ok, checking whether this is an issue ... and whether opera still block OAuth
[11:57] <leighman> nothing seems to happen with default browser set to Chromium either
[12:12] <rye> leighman, could you please try running ubuntuone-preferences from the terminal
[12:13] <leighman> it loads
[12:13] <rye> hm, browser window does not get opened with opera...hmmm
[12:17] <leighman> when?
[12:18] <rye> leighman, do you have firefox installed?
[12:19] <leighman> nope :P
[12:21] <leighman> okay, I do now
[12:26] <leighman> rye: sorry missed if you said anything, got disconnected
[12:29] <rye> leighman, could you please try switching the browser to firefox for the moment, it looks like process handling has some problem with opera at the moment :-/
[12:29] <rye> and as you say, chromium (need to check this)
[12:31] <leighman> okay, and run?
[12:36] <leighman> no browser windows seem to be opening ever :(
[12:42] <duanedesign> morning all
[12:44] <rye> leighman, before you re-run, could you please kill ubuntuone-login process
[12:44] <rye> leighman, killall ubuntuone-login and u1sdtool -q
[12:44] <rye> and preferencse - killall ubuntuone-preferences
[12:52] <leighman> that seems to have worked!
[12:53] <rye> leighman, ok, chromium failed because ubuntuone-login still was trying to make opera work
[12:53] <rye> hm
[12:54] <leighman> hmm, well, the Ubuntu One folder is still sad
[12:54] <leighman> yeh
[12:54] <rye> something is definitely wrong with 10 version...
[12:54] <rye> leighman, you have added machine, right?
[12:54] <leighman> yeh
[12:54] <rye> leighman, what's u1sdtool --status now ?
[12:55] <leighman> State: QUEUE_MANAGER
[12:55] <leighman>     connection: With User With Network
[12:55] <leighman>     description: processing queues
[12:55] <leighman>     is_connected: True
[12:55] <leighman>     is_error: False
[12:55] <leighman>     is_online: True
[12:55] <leighman>     queues: WORKING_ON_METADATA
[12:55] <rye> leighman, ok, it is processing queues now, so it should finish eventually, you can see the queues via u1sdtool --waiting-meta and u1sdtool --waiting-content for the time being
[12:56]  * rye goes away for an hour...
[13:22]  * rye[mobile] uses teredo, wow, that's something awesome, I can access my IPv6 machines even w/o setting up the tunnel
[13:22] <duanedesign> :)
[14:30] <duanedesign> A bug where a user is trying to use Ubuntu One with the Root account would get a Status of 'Wont Fix'?
[14:31] <Emry> duanedesign, No one should be using root for anything network related unless it is a 100% necessity. ^^;
[14:34] <duanedesign> Emry: absolutely. There seems to be a small percentage of users that run Ubuntu as Root user.
[14:35] <duanedesign> I try and politely educate them and point them to wiki pages explaining Root/sudo
[14:36] <Emry> duanedesign,  :) I think it is important for them to understand WHY Linux doesn't normally get viruses (and how running as root pretty much nullifies that effect).
[14:37] <Emry> In order to get the same impact as a sudo user, the user has to manage to jack themselves up twice, compared to the once it would take as root. ^^;;
[14:40] <rye> Emry, i believe it is "What could happen? why do I need another user on my machine, I am the king of the mountain... etc."
[14:41] <rye> or, "I do not like remembering passwords"... password-less root login
[14:42] <Emry> rye O.o Passwordless root is like... I could never bring myself to do that to a machine. ^^;
[14:43] <rye> Emry, password-less root machine is a paperweight :)
[14:43] <duanedesign> rye,  as I understand it running U1 as root is not a supported feature and there are no current plans to make it one.
[14:43] <rye> duanedesign, well, frankly speaking i have never tried to do such thing, and yes, syncdaemon complains in logs if it is asked to be running as root
[14:44] <duanedesign> rye: I am trying to take care of the handful of bugs out there related to users running Ubuntu One as the root user.
[14:45] <duanedesign> i was going to set the status to 'won't fix'
[14:45] <rye> well, yes, i believe that we will not add support for god mode
[14:49] <rye> verterok, regarding the patches to preferences app - was any of them committed?
[14:49] <verterok> rye: yeap, it's in trunk
[14:50] <rye> verterok, aha, and will this code be used for Lucid stock version?
[14:50] <rye> verterok, please please please please ?
[14:51] <verterok> rye: I think so, but I'm not 100% sure
[15:13] <Emry> duanedesign, :P That makes sense to me. ^_^  Perhaps suggest they try the same thing as a non-root user and report their findings then. ^_^
[15:15] <Emry> Many Linux programs are relatively dummy proof...  :P
[16:46] <pedronis>  /whois facundobatista facundobatista
[16:47] <facundobatista> pedronis, hi Samuele!
[16:47] <pedronis> hi
[16:47] <pedronis> sorry
[17:25] <OttifantSir> I have logged in to Ubuntu One site, tried to connect through the "bubble" in the top right panel, added the machine, but I can't connect. Should I file a bug, or is there something I'm missing? The instructions are somewhat old.
[17:28] <duanedesign> hello OttifantSir
[17:28] <OttifantSir> Hello duanedesign. Any tips?
[17:29] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: are you running Karmic?
[17:29] <OttifantSir> Oh, sorry, I forgot that part. No, I'm running 10.04 beta 2
[17:30] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: what happens when you launch Ubuntu One from the Me Menu?
[17:31] <duanedesign> the first time you launch Ubuntu One it should take you to the website to add your computer
[17:33] <OttifantSir> I get the client up and running, the Account tab says unknown in every field, and the links. Units says <LOCAL MACHINE>, Services have File Synch and Music Download checked. I've added the computer, but it still won't connect. No error message at all, just won't
[17:34] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: ok
[17:35] <OttifantSir> I just looked at a tab in Firefox, and it said it couldn't connect to localhost:56265. Do I need to open that port for any services?
[17:35] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: no you do not
[17:37] <duanedesign> do you see your device listed at  https://one.ubuntu.com/account/machines/
[17:39] <OttifantSir> Could it be because I've added this machine before through 9.04? That I need to re-add my machines?
[17:39] <OttifantSir> 'cause I have never really gotten One to work
[17:40] <OttifantSir> And this machine is currently listed as added to the "cloud"
[17:43] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: Do you have any sort of script blocking software enabled in Firefox like NoScript or are behingd a Proxy Server?
[18:00] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: Can you paste your ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/oauth-login.log at http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:02] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: also i wasnt sure if you saw mt question but are you behind a Proxy or do you use a script blocking software like NoScript?
[18:03] <OttifantSir> Yes, I have NoScript installed, but I am not behind a proxy, unless wireless network counts
[18:04] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: ok, noScript can prevent U1 from setting up properly
[18:06] <OttifantSir> It may also be that something isn't right here. Can't open Nautilus, Thunar, Thunderbird or Firefox. Have to do a reboot because killing the processes doesn't work. See you later if I must
[18:06] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+faq/957
[18:07] <duanedesign> that is a faq for working with noScript
[18:14] <OttifantSir> duanedesign: Which file was it you wanted to see again? And please, if you could be bothered, the link?
[18:14] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: Can you paste your ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/oauth-login.log at http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:15] <duanedesign>  https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+faq/957  that is a faq for working with noScript
[18:16] <OttifantSir> This is the file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/415080/
[18:17] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: ok
[18:18] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: lets get noScript cooperating with one.ubuntu.com and then try and redo you authorization process
[18:19] <rye> duanedesign, there is one more no-script "feature" that prevents ubuntuone from working - Sanitize suspicious URLS
[18:19] <OttifantSir> I've done the ABE in the USER-selection of NoScript, not SYSTEM.
[18:19] <OttifantSir> Never even heard of that part of NS
[18:20] <rye> duanedesign, well, it breaks openid compeltely, becase it translates all openid.user parameters to OPENid.user, "preventing" open() calls and breaking openid auth
[18:20] <OttifantSir> So, how do I change that? Got NS-settings open
[18:21] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: ABE > SYSTEM
[18:21] <OttifantSir> I'm there
[18:22] <duanedesign> Site LOCAL
[18:22] <duanedesign> Accept from LOCAL
[18:22] <duanedesign> Accept GET from one.ubuntu.com
[18:22] <duanedesign> Deny
[18:22] <duanedesign> I think the 3rd line is the only change
[18:23] <OttifantSir> Yup.
[18:23] <OttifantSir> Done
[18:23] <duanedesign> rye: is there a workaround for the sanitizesuspicious URL's
[18:24] <OttifantSir> Try to connect?
[18:25] <rye> duanedesign, that's my bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+bug/526415
[18:25] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: I think we will have to reauthorize your computer
[18:26] <OttifantSir> I've already deleted the authorizations for it, so now I'll turn off XSS in NS for the time being?
[18:27] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: i havent read all the bug this might not affect us.
[18:28] <OttifantSir> Opening the Me Menu-choice...
[18:28] <duanedesign>  Open Applications->Accessories->Passwords and Encryption Keys
[18:28] <OttifantSir> Opened Passwords
[18:29] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: Click on the arrow next to "Passwords"
[18:29] <OttifantSir> Got network passwords, IM-passwords, login-passwords, etc
[18:29] <duanedesign> do you see the Ubuntu One token
[18:29] <OttifantSir> No One token
[18:29] <duanedesign> ok then you can close that
[18:30] <duanedesign> Go to https://one.ubuntu.com/account/machines/
[18:30] <duanedesign> Click on the checkbox next to your computer and select 'remove selected computer'
[18:31] <OttifantSir> Already done that
[18:31] <duanedesign> now when you open Ubuntu One a web page should open, prompting you to add your computer to your Ubuntu One account
[18:34] <duanedesign> also looking at your log it appears firefox might not be set as your default browser
[18:34] <duanedesign> looks like it is trying to open galeon
[18:35] <OttifantSir> OK, got the machine reauthorized, but nothing has changed
[18:36] <OttifantSir> Wait, I got a new option
[18:36] <OttifantSir> To install Firefox extension
[18:36] <duanedesign> that is to sync bookmarks
[18:37] <OttifantSir> I get timeout errors every other time I try to go to one.ubuntu.com
[18:37] <duanedesign> are you using firefox?
[18:38] <OttifantSir> Yes. But now, at least the client says it's syncing
[18:38] <OttifantSir> Will have to see what happens, if anything
[18:38] <OttifantSir> Name, e-mail and Plan still says Unknown though
[18:38] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: under Account tab does you name ....
[18:39] <duanedesign> read my mind :)
[18:41] <duanedesign> did firefox launch when you ran Ubuntu One after deleting your machine and token
[18:41] <OttifantSir> It launched a site after a while
[18:42] <OttifantSir> Now I can see that I'm my only contact, that the folder is empty, and that I have no notes, but the client still is syncing, so I got that off the site
[18:42] <duanedesign> so firefox is your default browser undder System->Preferences->Preferred Applications
[18:42] <OttifantSir> Yup.
[18:43] <OttifantSir> System Monitor says ubuntuone-syncdaemon has a poll_schedule_timeout
[18:43] <OttifantSir> So does ubuntuone_preferences
[18:44] <OttifantSir> To be honest, so does about 85% of everything running
[18:44] <duanedesign> has the Ubuntu One Token shown up under Applications->Accessories->Passwords and Encryption Keys
[18:45] <OttifantSir> I'll hang back on Ubuntu One until 10.04 is released properly
[18:45] <OttifantSir> I knew there would be problems, and as I have never used One, it's not something I'll miss in a hurry
[18:45] <OttifantSir> Thanks for your help
[18:46] <OttifantSir> It seems beta-testing isn't as much fun as I thought
[18:46] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: if you would like you can ask rye he is always here and more than happy to help as well
[18:46] <OttifantSir> Thanks for your help
[18:46] <duanedesign> np
[18:46] <OttifantSir> I just wanted to see if there was something I could do this time around.
[18:48] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: well there might be. If you are game I would poke one of the devs and see if they can help you.
[18:48] <rye> timeout errors?
[18:49] <duanedesign> yes while trying to access the site
[18:49] <duanedesign> the Token wasnt showing up in Passwords and Encryption
[18:50] <duanedesign> and Name, Email, PLan all say Unknown
[18:51] <OttifantSir> Well, now it has finished syncing, but still Unknowns, and still poll_schedule_timeout on ubuntuone_syncdaemon and apx 70-80% of all things running on my machine
[19:00] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: I did a ps -elf | grep poll_s| wc -l I have 118 poll_schedule_timeout's so i think that is OK
[19:02] <OttifantSir> OK. It's just not what I'm used to seeing. futex_wait, rpc_wait_bit_killable, worker_thread and a whole lot of others, I've seen often, but not poll_schedule_timeout. But apart from Thunderbird, things are working ATM, so I guess it's OK.
[19:02] <duanedesign> OttifantSir: i was just looking on the forums a lot of other people were saying the same thing. Must be new
[19:02] <rye> OttifantSir, could you please quit the preferences application (killall ubuntuone-preferences) and start it again?
[19:03] <OttifantSir> What I hoped, duanedesign
[19:03] <OttifantSir> rye, it's closed ATM
[19:03] <rye> duanedesign, OttifantSir, btw, what's the version of the client?
[19:03] <OttifantSir> No thread in System Monitor
[19:04] <OttifantSir> rye, 1.1.91-0ubuntu1
[19:05] <rye> OttifantSir, it is closed, but may be still loaded in memory, could you please doublecheck that?
[19:05] <OttifantSir> It's gone from System Monitor
[19:06] <OttifantSir> I got ubuntuone_syncdaemon, but not preferences
[19:06] <OttifantSir> And I've shown All Processes, not just My Processes
[21:02] <rye> urbanape, a question regarding the branch
[21:03] <rye> urbanape, ubuntuone-servers - in case i enter some cyrillic info, upon save the view does not switch to that new contact
[21:04] <rye> urbanape, i.e. the contact is opened, but the contact is not brought into the view in sidebar
[21:04] <urbanape> that's existing behavior, and wasn't dealt with in this branch
[21:05] <urbanape> I don't recall if beuno has a bug open for that behavior
[21:05] <beuno> I don't think I do
[21:05] <beuno> it was bundled into the ajaxification
[21:06] <rye> urbanape, ok, NOTTHISBUG :)
[21:06] <urbanape> exactly
[21:08] <Treenaks> I'm getting "There was a (temporary) problem getting your list of purchased songs. Please wait a short time and then try again, or return to the music store." when accessing "My Downloads" from the store, but I can't find anyone else with the same problem :(
[21:26] <topyli> is the list of free downloads still around so as to safely test the store?
[21:49] <joshuahoover1> topyli: for the us, the list of free song downloads can be found here: http://us.7digital.com/cms/free-downloads-usa/free-downloads.aspx
[21:50] <topyli> ah. thank's but i'm not US, i'm THEM :)
[22:22] <rapha> is there a way to get the music store working in ubuntu 9.10?
[22:24] <joshuahoover> rapha: it might be possible but we only support lucid
[22:24] <rapha> joshuahoover: okay - and you probably won't ever support pre-lucid releases i take it?
[22:25] <joshuahoover> rapha: no, we don't have plans to, especially since lucid is a long term support release
[22:26] <rapha> okay
[22:26] <rapha> well it woulda been nice
[22:26] <rapha> but then i guess thats just the way it is
[22:26] <rapha> better use your time implementing a UbuntuOne Music Store Wishlist
[22:26] <rapha> so i can save all the stuff i wanna have but dont have money to buy right now :-)
[22:26] <joshuahoover> rapha: :)
[22:27] <rapha> (srsly, consider this a feature request!! :-)) )
[22:47] <rapha> rockstar == sabdfl incognito? :-]
[22:52] <rockstar> rapha, no, not at all.  I'm sure sabdfl would be insulted to hear that.  :)
[22:52] <rapha> rockstar: at least he seems to be employing you :)
[22:52] <rockstar> rapha, indeed.
[22:53] <mkarnicki> rockstar: u work for canonical? :)
[22:54] <rapha> 23:49 -!- rockstar [~rockstar@canonical/launchpad/rockstar] has joined #ubuntuone
[22:54] <mkarnicki> this means, he is i presume :D
[22:54] <mkarnicki> just wanted to hear that enthusiastic "indeed! :)"
[22:54] <rapha> lol
[22:54] <mkarnicki> ;>
[22:54] <rapha> it didnt even sound quite as enthusiastic as one would have assumed ...
[22:55] <mkarnicki> well.. it didn't, because there was none xD
[22:55]  * mkarnicki pokes rockstar
[22:56] <rockstar> mkarnicki, sorry, on the phone.  Yes, I work for Canonical.
[22:56] <mkarnicki> rapha: i know it's not U1 related - how can i set the ircname as u have in /whois ?
[22:56] <rockstar> (not on Ubuntu One, I can't help there)
[22:57] <mkarnicki> rockstar: no probs, I thought so :) what do you do exactly, if I may ask? :)
[22:57] <rockstar> mkarnicki, launchpad-code
[22:57] <mkarnicki> rockstar: so.. you're a regular employee, for real?
[22:58] <mkarnicki> I'd like to work for canonical one day *_*
[22:58] <mkarnicki> soon I'll be more active around U1, perhaps in few months I could join ubuntu developers team
[22:59] <vladanian> Hey guys, I've been stuck for a few weeks in a cycle of tomboy notes fail, and I don't know how to escape!
[22:59] <mkarnicki> enough of this daydreaming xD
[22:59]  * mkarnicki shuts up
[22:59] <joshuahoover> vladanian: what seems to be the problem?
[22:59] <rapha> mkarnicki: you will have to go to #freenode and ask them for a cloak ... but be patient they have a lot to do, and it's rly a nicety of them if they do give you one
[23:00] <rapha> mkarnicki: an "unaffiliated" cloak its called if i right remember
[23:00] <vladanian> joshuahoover, I keep getting sync failed messages, and lots of (old) and (old) 1 and (old) 2 dupes
[23:00] <rapha> rockstar: mkarnicki's daydreams aside, do canonical even hire ppl, or are you "full"?
[23:01] <mkarnicki> rapha: i see. but what I meant was that I could see your name and surname there nicely, and my account (mkarnicki) is missing my name
[23:01] <vladanian> I don't know what to do to get on track again
[23:01] <joshuahoover> vladanian: ok, can you quit tomboy and then run the following command in a terminal session? tomboy --debug > ~/tomboy_debug.log
[23:02] <mkarnicki> rapha: I'm not planning to wait for a free work place :D one day they're gonna want me! *laughs with a low voice*
[23:02] <joshuahoover> vladanian: then open ~/tomboy_debug.log and paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and post the url here
[23:03] <vladanian> joshuahoover, thanks, will do
[23:05] <mkarnicki> rapha: http://webapps.ubuntu.com/employment/
[23:07] <vladanian> joshuahoover, hmm, tomboy doesn't want to start -- that command just ended silently after a few minutes
[23:08] <joshuahoover> vladanian: hmmm... try just: tomboy
[23:08] <joshuahoover> vladanian: does that open tomboy?
[23:09] <vladanian> joshuahoover, no, I've actually run into this before while troubleshooting this. After I get a sync error, tomboy becomes unresponsive, and I have to kill it to stop it. Then it doesn't want to start again until a reboot
[23:10] <joshuahoover> vladanian: that's strange...what version of ubuntu are you using?
[23:12] <vladanian> joshuahoover, sorry -- it's running now -- maybe it took some time for part of it to finish dying. I'm on lucid 64 bit with all updates applied
[23:14] <joshuahoover> vladanian: ok...were you able to start it with the original command? tomboy --debug > ~/tomboy_debug.log
[23:14] <joshuahoover> vladanian: i need to see some debug info to see what the cause of the problem might be
[23:15] <joshuahoover> vladanian: you can also try setting up tomboy sync again, to see if that solves the problem
[23:15] <vladanian> joshuahoover, here it is -- just looking over what I was pasting: http://paste.ubuntu.com/415219/
[23:16] <joshuahoover> vladanian: you can do that by removing your computer from your account at https://one.ubuntu.com/account/machines/ and then clearing out your sync setup in tomboy
[23:16] <vladanian> joshuahoover, I've done that a number of times
[23:17] <vladanian> But I have more than one machine
[23:18] <joshuahoover> vladanian: ok, i don't think that's going to help you anyway now that i can see the error
[23:18] <vladanian> joshuahoover, is there an offending note I can delete?
[23:20] <joshuahoover> vladanian: possibly 'hot toddy' but i need to create a bug report and have one of the devs look at it to see why the error may be occuring
[23:21] <vladanian> joshuahoover, ok, I'll try deleting that one. I've synced this set of notes many times during different parts of the u1 dev process
[23:21] <joshuahoover> vladanian: yeah, and the error is vague to me but hoping it makes more sense to the guys who work on notes sync :)
[23:27] <joshuahoover> vladanian: i filed the following bug report #564262  ...can you subscribe to it so you are notified of any updates? i will ping the devs first thing tomorrow about this
[23:27] <vladanian> joshuahoover, thanks
[23:42] <duanedesign> is there a bug on UDF's not having emblems?