[00:01] <nigelb> mhall119: thanks
[00:01] <nigelb> cjohnston: merged. get it deployed.
[00:03] <nigelb> Filed bug 889337
[00:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 889337 in loco-team-portal "Remove all the print statements in application code (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/889337
[00:14] <cjohnston> mhall119: nigelb thoughts: https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/loco-team-portal/event-recap/+merge/81925
[00:56] <cjohnston> svwilliams: !
[00:56] <svwilliams> Hey! cjohnston I'm finally on a really computer! (no vm on top of mac osx)
[00:56] <cjohnston> sweet
[00:57] <svwilliams> still getting everything setup just got the bzr branch for loco-directory
[00:57] <cjohnston> cool
[00:57] <cjohnston> im getting ready to push a release
[00:57] <cjohnston> we have a bad bug we need to fix
[00:58] <svwilliams> whats the bug?
[00:59] <cjohnston> something with switching to wsgi
[00:59] <svwilliams> ahh
[01:00] <svwilliams> I'm hoping I can over come the issues I had synching open-ids last night using this old dell from work
[01:00] <svwilliams> for some reason the vm kept timing out
[01:00] <cjohnston> gotcha
[01:00] <svwilliams> are you handling the release on your own
[01:00] <cjohnston> fwiw its now lp:loco-team-portal
[01:00] <svwilliams> fwiw (?)
[01:00] <cjohnston> for what its worth
[01:00] <cjohnston> i prepare the release, and then notify IS
[01:01] <svwilliams> I was wondering about that I should switch to that correct
[01:01] <svwilliams> instead of loco-directory
[01:01] <cjohnston> loco-directory points to l-t-p
[01:01] <cjohnston> but l-t-p would now be more appropriate
[01:02] <cjohnston> svwilliams: any chance your close to being ready to working on a real quick bug that needs to be pushed out
[01:02] <cjohnston> bug #888511
[01:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 888511 in loco-team-portal "Fix links to launchpad project/team (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/888511
[01:02] <svwilliams> I'm still getting set up and my old env was hindering working on the three bitsize bugs I have
[01:03] <svwilliams> but I would look into that one and take that one on instead
[01:03] <cjohnston> it should only be 3 or 4 lines of code
[01:03] <cjohnston> really easy
[01:03] <cjohnston> its just updating the links
[01:03] <svwilliams> alright I'll go pull up the bug and fix it
[01:03] <svwilliams> this asap or by end of weekend?
[01:03] <cjohnston> if you can't do it in the next hour I will
[01:04] <svwilliams> well I kicked off make live
[01:04] <cjohnston> i figured it would give you a little more experience
[01:04] <cjohnston> cancel that out
[01:04] <cjohnston> ill give you a db for this one
[01:04] <svwilliams> ok
[01:04] <cjohnston> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2494160/loco_directory.db
[01:05] <cjohnston> this one is super easy...
[01:05] <cjohnston> in your branch (so the folder that contains loco_directory/)
[01:05] <cjohnston> grep -rn ".net/loco-directory" *
[01:09] <svwilliams> so they all need to change to /loco-team-portal
[01:10] <svwilliams> correct?
[01:10] <svwilliams> The text already says Loco Team Portal so we're just cleaning up the links
[01:10] <svwilliams> after that want me to go through the wiki and clean up the intructions for developers
[01:10] <cjohnston> yr\es
[01:10] <cjohnston> yes
[01:10] <svwilliams> I was going to add the stuff I learned yesterday about synching open ids
[01:10] <svwilliams> k
[01:10] <cjohnston> sure..
[01:16] <svwilliams> cjohnston, I just went through about.html has the link to the developers changed ... I went to launch pad and its still loco-directory-dev
[01:18] <cjohnston> it has not yet changed svwilliams
[01:18] <cjohnston> it will
[01:18] <cjohnston> but it will also have a forward
[01:18] <cjohnston> so it can wait a bit
[01:19] <svwilliams> ok
[01:19] <svwilliams> well its done
[01:19] <svwilliams> let me run it real quick and run through all of the links
[01:19] <svwilliams> and make sure they work
[01:19] <cjohnston> t
[01:19] <cjohnston> y
[01:30] <svwilliams> cjohnston, syntax for the commit to link to the bug
[01:30] <svwilliams> --fixes lp:bugnumber
[01:30] <svwilliams> ?
[01:30] <cjohnston> yup
[01:36] <svwilliams> cjohnston, mp is up
[01:36] <svwilliams> I'm going to attack the wiki now
[01:36] <cjohnston> ok
[01:36] <cjohnston> ty
[01:37] <svwilliams> your welcome
[01:37] <svwilliams> you are welcome
[01:37] <cjohnston> svwilliams: never noticed this, but do you mind fixing:
[01:38] <cjohnston> the "report it" links, point them to https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-team-portal/+filebug
[01:38] <svwilliams> yes I noticed that it was a search I think ...
[01:38] <cjohnston> so login_failure
[01:38] <cjohnston> .html
[01:38] <cjohnston> 404.html
[01:38] <cjohnston> and 500.html
[01:39] <svwilliams> add /+filebug to all of the links
[01:39] <svwilliams> since most of them point to just bugs
[01:40] <cjohnston> ya
[01:43] <svwilliams> added it to all of them
[01:44] <svwilliams> and pushed to same branch
[01:44] <cjohnston> ty
[01:45] <svwilliams> np
[01:45] <svwilliams> did all the links redirect
[01:46] <svwilliams> I don't want to screw up the release process instructions
[01:46] <svwilliams> I'm working on the wiki now
[01:46] <svwilliams> and I'm modifying the directions to point at loco-team-portal instead of loco-directory
[01:46] <svwilliams> didn't know if everything including translations had moved?
[01:46] <cjohnston> everything except the team is moved
[01:48] <svwilliams> there is a directory under the team /loco-directory-dev/loco-directory
[01:48] <svwilliams> has that been changed to /loco-directory-dev/loco-team-portal?
[01:48] <cjohnston> lp:~loco-directory-dev/loco-team-portal/translations
[01:48] <cjohnston> lp:~loco-directory-dev/loco-team-portal/production
[01:49] <svwilliams> ok so the instructions to sysadmin's will have changed
[01:49] <svwilliams> got it
[01:49] <cjohnston> lp:loco-team-portal is the same as lp:loco-directory-dev/loco-team-portal
[01:49] <cjohnston> whats the link
[01:50] <svwilliams> instructions bzr pull lp:~loco-directory/loco-directory/production
[01:50] <svwilliams> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoDirectory/ReleaseProcess
[01:50] <svwilliams> had it open so I started there
[01:50] <cjohnston> lp:~loco-directory-dev/loco-team-portal/production   is the new link
[01:50] <cjohnston> for now
[01:53] <svwilliams> is the stuff on thier end still /srv/shared-branches/loco-directory-dev_loco-directory_production
[01:53] <cjohnston> ya, leave that alone
[01:56] <svwilliams> last thing, I think, would you like me to migrate the wiki pages
[01:56] <svwilliams> from LoCoDirectory
[01:56] <svwilliams> to LoCoTeamPortal
[01:56] <svwilliams> I'm migrating the text
[01:56] <cjohnston> Ya.. and then point LoCoDirectory to LoCoTeamPortal
[01:56] <svwilliams> I mean changing the text
[01:56] <svwilliams> ok
[01:57] <cjohnston> yes
[02:04] <svwilliams> ok I've moved everything and fixed most of the references to loco-directory
[02:05] <svwilliams> little things like loco_directory.db
[02:05] <svwilliams> I left alone
[02:05] <svwilliams> but all launchpad references and wiki pages and project references calling it loco directory I fixed
[02:05] <cjohnston> cool
[02:05] <cjohnston> ty
[02:07] <svwilliams> oh there is a bunch of old text about releases
[02:07] <svwilliams> .1
[02:07] <svwilliams> and .2
[02:07] <svwilliams> I left their references to loco-directory alone
[02:07] <cjohnston> k
[02:07] <svwilliams> if I get a chance I'll update to our current number and
[02:08] <cjohnston> ok
[02:08] <svwilliams> put in some items from the UDS blueprint
[02:08] <svwilliams> this weekend
[02:08] <cjohnston> :-)
[02:08] <cjohnston> watch out.. you might become the project lead
[02:14] <svwilliams> ha :-) I'll leave that in more competent hands, but I'm happy to help :-)
[02:15] <cjohnston> like was said during uds.. if you go to the bathroom, you may end up in charge
[02:15] <svwilliams> lol, good advice for next UDS
[02:15] <svwilliams> don't go to the bathroom
[02:15] <svwilliams> I think I over heard hallway conversations where people were getting volunteered for things
[02:15] <svwilliams> :-D
[02:16] <cjohnston> lol
[02:46] <cjohnston> svwilliams: im including you on the email requesting a release just so you can watch it
[03:01] <svwilliams> excellent
[03:07] <cjohnston> mhall119: http://paste.ubuntu.com/735870/   do you have any idea who any of the people are that are throwing the errors? (ie their proper lp name)
[03:08] <cjohnston> svwilliams: you said your familiar with python right?
[03:08] <cjohnston> just new to django
[03:08] <svwilliams> familar with web dev
[03:08] <svwilliams> new to django and python
[03:08] <cjohnston> ok
[03:08] <svwilliams> well I've done a little python
[03:08] <svwilliams> very little
[03:08] <cjohnston> ok.
[03:08] <svwilliams> I get the basics
[04:25] <doctormo-other> cjohnston: You should change your review status to Approved too.
[04:25] <doctormo-other> https://code.launchpad.net/~doctormo/loco-team-portal/event-page-design/+merge/81231
[14:12] <mhall119> cjohnston: all I recognize is achuni
[14:12] <mhall119> his lp username is elachuni
[14:14] <nigelb> I can also recognize cdbs
[14:14] <nigelb> and coolbhavi
[14:14] <cjohnston> could yall fix the ones you know please
[14:16] <nigelb> cjohnston: EW.
[14:17] <nigelb> Status can't handle case difference?
[14:17] <cjohnston> dont know.. i guess now?
[14:17] <cjohnston> not/
[14:18] <nigelb> Yeah
[14:18] <nigelb> ok, I fixed the ones I know.
[14:18] <cjohnston> ty
[15:49] <cjohnston> nigelb: mhall119 et al: https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/loco-team-portal/req/+merge/82049
[15:50] <cjohnston> https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/summit/track-summary/+merge/81912
[15:50] <mhall119> on a saturday?
[15:51] <cjohnston> mhall119: on a every day
[15:55] <mhall119> cjohnston: I'm not sure your requirements change for django-openid-auth will work
[15:56] <cjohnston> it works on summit
[15:56] <cjohnston> why wouldnt it here
[15:56] <mhall119> eveytime I've seen a downloaded tarball, the line started with -f, and ended with some package info
[15:57] <nigelb> mhall119: it works on summit
[15:57] <cjohnston> mhall119: try it?
[15:58] <mhall119> if you tried it, then it's ok
[15:59] <mhall119> getting psycopg2 out of there is going to make things easier for new devs
[16:00] <cjohnston> its still there.. its commented out
[16:01] <mhall119> it'll make settingup the virtualenv faster
[16:16] <cjohnston> mhall119: get ready to go outside and wave
[16:16] <mhall119> cjohnston: driving past?
[16:16] <cjohnston> ya
[16:17] <mhall119> where are you headed?
[16:17] <cjohnston> fl aquarium
[16:17] <mhall119> the one in ybor?
[16:17] <cjohnston> si
[16:17] <cjohnston> hope says 'channelside'
[16:17] <mhall119> ah, too bad Michelle is sick, or we'd come out with you
[16:18] <cjohnston> :-(
[16:18] <mhall119> she's had Ubuflu all week
[16:18] <mhall119> I'm the only one here who hasn't had it
[16:18] <cjohnston> :-(
[16:18] <cjohnston> i didnt get it this time
[16:21] <cjohnston> mhall119: is there anything requreid other than the translation for the translation to show up in the list of translations
[16:22] <mhall119> cjohnston: you mean on LTP?
[16:22] <mhall119> I think we just get languages from the iso-codes package
[16:23] <cjohnston> yes, ltp..
[16:24] <cjohnston> so if the language isnt in the menu, how do we add it
[16:44] <mhall119> what language are we missing?
[16:44] <cjohnston> https://answers.launchpad.net/loco-team-portal/+question/178481
[16:45] <cjohnston> I pushed the translations to production.. so when IS releases it, the .po's will be there
[17:10] <mhall119> cjohnston: if we can't get django 1.3 installed system-wide, we can get a local branch of it and put it on the PYTHONPATH
[17:10] <nigelb> Is IS okay wwith that?
[17:10] <mhall119> nigelb: they should be, that's SOP for ISD apps now
[17:11] <mhall119> there's even an official ISD branch of django 1.3 we can use
[17:11] <mhall119> we'll just need to update the .wsgi files to add it to the path
[17:11] <nigelb> oooh. Then I'm all for that.
[17:11] <cjohnston> mhall119: we are trying to move servers too
[17:11] <nigelb> Why move servers?
[17:11] <mhall119> more power!
[17:11] <cjohnston> becuase cranberry is still in trouble
[17:14] <nigelb> Since when?
[17:14] <nigelb> we haven't had any issues in a long while.
[17:15] <cjohnston> nigelb: its still overrun per is.. they want to move us
[18:14] <cprofitt> cjohnston: do you know about status.ubuntu.com?
[18:17] <nigelb> cprofitt: He does. He maintains it. Is it broken?
[18:18] <cprofitt> no, just curious why my page is missing...
[18:18] <cprofitt> I clicked on my name and get page not found
[18:22] <cjohnston> cprofitt, only people who are members of the teams on the teams page have pages
[18:22] <cprofitt> ok...
[18:23] <cprofitt> and what determines what blueprints are included?
[18:23] <cprofitt> for example -- https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-bug-involvement
[18:25] <cjohnston> cproffit, managers
[18:26]  * cprofitt nods
[18:27] <cprofitt> the site looks fantastic... would be really useful if I had a page and it was tracking all the blueprints
[18:27] <cprofitt> thanks for the explanation cjohnston
[18:31] <cjohnston> cprofitt, find me a python dev to optimize it and we can.. right now it isnt practical
[18:33] <daker_> hello
[18:34] <cjohnston> hey daker
[18:35] <nigelb> cjohnston: I thought you were out  ;)
[18:35] <cjohnston> %I am
[18:37] <daker_> cjohnston: nigelb do we have a twitter account ?
[18:52] <daker_> https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/loco-team-portal/fix.889567/+merge/82053
[23:29] <cjohnston> mhall119: nigelb Ronnie http://paste.ubuntu.com/736761/   the error for /meetings/history
[23:29] <Ronnie> cjohnston: is that the full error?
[23:30] <mhall119> is that displaying past meetings?
[23:30] <cjohnston> yews
[23:30] <cjohnston> http://paste.ubuntu.com/736764/
[23:30] <nigelb> The error is that there is a print statement.
[23:31] <cjohnston> ok.. so nigelb your code fixes that right
[23:31] <nigelb> ya
[23:31] <Ronnie> ah, the famous print statements with wsgi
[23:32] <Ronnie> before commit i usually exec "bzr diff | grep print"
[23:48] <Ronnie> django 1.4 will have the new command which will significantly reduce the amount of queries: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/models/querysets/#prefetch-related
[23:52] <Ronnie> wow, the event history list runs 5432 queries to print the page. thats the same number as the port of a standard postgresql database.


[02:27] <siqueira> boa noite pra geral
[02:38] <UbuntuStudioUser> Hello everybody!
[02:39] <UbuntuStudioUser> I've just come across a few problems after ubuntustudio installation
[02:39] <UbuntuStudioUser> now im logged in
[02:39] <UbuntuStudioUser> with a gnome 3 session installed thru terminal
[02:39] <UbuntuStudioUser> I've uninstalled too the default DE
[02:40] <UbuntuStudioUser> but I'd like to revert back
[02:40] <UbuntuStudioUser> How can I do? :)
[08:43] <gkm_> Hi
[08:45] <gkm_> bei bildschirm sperren passiert nix
[08:46] <gkm_> ich will das der rechner weiterläuft aber passwortgeschützt
[08:46] <gkm_> was kann ich tun?
[09:00] <did> studio-user032
[16:11] <silvestrino> hello people
[16:11] <silvestrino> here can write only in english?
[16:12] <holstein> silvestrino: i can speak only english..
[16:13] <silvestrino> ok no problem
[16:13] <silvestrino> my english is shit but i can try
[16:13] <silvestrino> just now i am to instal ubunto studio on my computer
[16:13] <holstein> !install
[16:14] <silvestrino> before i try with the version 64bit but give me many trouble
[16:14] <silvestrino> now i am in try with 32 bit
[16:14] <holstein> silvestrino: if your hardware is 64bit capable, it should work fine
[16:15] <holstein> you are likely not having issues with the 64bit vs 32bit at all
[16:15] <silvestrino> i try to search info about my computer is a compaq 321
[16:16] <holstein> you wont find information, though
[16:16] <holstein> compaq doesnt provide any information for running linux on the machine
[16:16] <silvestrino> yeah!!!
[16:16] <silvestrino> i am so lucky
[16:17] <silvestrino> wuhauahauhauha
[16:17] <silvestrino> ok i use 32 is ok
[16:17] <holstein> silvestrino: i really dont think that was the issue.. but, i would just use what is working
[16:17] <silvestrino> thanks so much ....and compliment to everybody can make ubuntu and all work
[16:18] <silvestrino> i am really happy i was try before kubuntu and now i change in this ......really really thanks
[16:18] <holstein> you can use the studio packages in kubuntu
[16:19] <silvestrino> i change pc so i install again ....so i install direct this version for try
[16:20] <holstein> silvestrino: they are all ubuntu.. i would use what is working for you, and what you understand
[16:20] <holstein> if you are not doing audio production, there really is no reason for ubuntustudio
[16:20] <holstein> the overhead of JACK and the jack applications is really not needed
[16:20] <silvestrino> i want learn and try
[16:20] <holstein> sure. you are welcome to
[16:21] <holstein> !proaudio
[16:21] <silvestrino> ok
[16:22] <silvestrino> thanks a lot for your time and help me have a nice day
[16:22] <holstein> sure.. good luck :)


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 Nothing against Kubuntu
[02:38] <airmen55> Hi all - and a very good morning/evening/*.* from Berlin Berlin
[03:17] <airmen55_> whats the trick to get to actually work
[03:18] <airmen55_> eh kradio...
[09:25] <otsheln1k> Good afternoon. I have a question.
[09:25] <otsheln1k> What do you think about performance if you install your OS on a laptop?
[09:25] <otsheln1k> System characteristics:
[09:25] <otsheln1k> - Processor: Intel Atom inside (Cores: 4, Frequency: 1.2)
[09:25] <otsheln1k> System characteristics:
[09:25] <otsheln1k> - Processor: Intel Atom inside (Cores: 4, Frequency: 1.2)
[09:25] <otsheln1k> - RAM: 4 gigabytes (type: DDR3)
[09:26] <otsheln1k> KDE is rumored to require a lot of computer resources.
[09:26] <ubuking> otsheln1k do you want to use kde?
[09:26] <ubuking> I would recommend you
[09:26] <ubuking> lubuntu or xubuntu
[09:27] <otsheln1k> Unfortunately, I do not allow you to install lubuntu
[09:28] <otsheln1k> I beg your pardon. I don't speak much English.
[09:29] <otsheln1k> I installed xubuntu. But it behaves very strangely on my laptop
[09:31] <otsheln1k> Does Kubuntu support Mate or XFCE shell?
[09:44] <tomreyn> !flavors | otsheln1k
[09:44] <tomreyn> Kubuntu for KDE, Ubuntu Mate for Mate, Xubuntu for XFCE.
[09:44] <tomreyn> this channel is about kubuntu
[09:46] <otsheln1k> I'm just curious
[10:08] <tomreyn> !ru | otsheln1k: in case you prefer support in russian
 (Photo, 444x391) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/M6zMbKlP/file_19205.jpg Hello brightness bar is gone and i cant change brightness anyone help?
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:26] <gianni_> ciao
[12:26] <gianni_> !list
 Hi. I am asking you this question, but it's not an Issue I experienced on Kubuntu. … Do you have some advices to reduce memory usage on Kubuntu? When I start my pc there are at least 800-900Mb of RAM used by processes and services. How can I reduce this number?
[13:20] <tomreyn> Franzpow: if that's not an issue you experience on kubuntu, then why do you ask it here?
[13:22] <tomreyn> i don't think there's much you can do about the basic RAM requirements, this is basically normal for a current desktop system. ubuntu's system requirements are 4 GB minimum, i guess you could say the same for kubuntu (but have not checked what is actually written about this - you probably should)
 @tomreyn, I thought that someone could help me here. I have 4GBs of RAM on my quadcore Celeron and Ubuntu requires - at least on my system - more 300mb of RAM
 I think that Kubuntu is lighter, in fact, it works better and it's smoother on my notebook than Ubuntu
[13:31] <tomreyn> the kernel takes some hundred MB, then you have the graphical desktop and services, and if ram is 'shared' with a GPU then it also takes another few hundred MB
[13:32] <tomreyn> so you basically end up with 1 GB allocated without running anything. this may be a little less on kubuntu than on ubuntu, but probably not thaaat much
 I understand. I have integrated graphics.. So may be the case. … Personally I switched to kubuntu because Plasma Runs smoother on my desktop thank GNOME
 Btw are Updates to 19.10 still not avaible? I  see nothing on discover When I check for new updates
[13:35] <tomreyn> cool. i'm not sure which versions you tried but gnome-shell in 18.04 has some performance issues, those are more contained in 19.10, but even then kubuntu may still have a smaller footprint.
[13:35] <tomreyn> you can set this alias    alias check19.10="wget -qO- http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release | grep -q '^Dist: eoan$' && echo 'Upgrade to 19.10 is now available' || echo 'Upgrade to 19.10 is not available, yet.'"
[13:35] <tomreyn> and then run    check19.10
 @tomreyn, I used Ubuntu 19.04 then I switched to Kubuntu
 @tomreyn, I am talking about security updates and program updates. I have already updated to 19.10 from 19.04. Is this command for that?
[13:36] <tomreyn> upgrades to 19.10 are not available, yet, but will be enabled soon. maybe just try again in a week
[13:37] <tomreyn> the command i just posted is for checking whether the 19.10 upgrade is available, yet
[13:37] <tomreyn> you can also run this:  do-release-upgrade -c
 Oh ok. I was asking, instead, if there are updates available right now to packages etc.. Because I am worried that I cannot see any update on discover. Maybe you remember that I updated to 19.10 version 'not in the right way' so I was wondering if everything was fine adding the right repos.
[13:42] <tomreyn> you can run this and post the url, so we can check together: sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog
[13:42] <tomreyn> this collects some information from apt, but does not actually change anything
[13:45] <tomreyn> Franzpow: ^
[13:46] <BluesKaj> tomreyn, what's the problem with the 19.10 sources ?
 thank you! I will check it in a whike
[13:47] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: none in general, but maybe on Franzpow's system since they edited sources.list manually to "upgrade" from 19.04 to 19.10, if i recall correctly.
[13:47] <tomreyn> also ppa's and other 3rd party repos may need massaging
[13:57] <BluesKaj> tomreyn, I sed'd my sources.list to focal then updated and upgraded, and changed my/etc/hosts and hostnames files
[13:59] <BluesKaj> that method has become a habit since joining "Kubuntu Testers"
 @Franzpow, Updates have a mandatory 7 days minimum in the proposed pocket for validation, so you won't see many allowed through for a while after 19.10 release
 @RikMills, Oh I understand.
 @tomreyn> you can run this and post the url, so we can check together: sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2, https://termbin.com/d49f
 this was the result
[14:10] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: that's probably fine someone willing to do testing like you, and especially so during early development of a new release where the 'upgrade' introduces basically no differences. but i guess we don't recommend editing sources.list for the average user, or they'll miss / loose the secret sauce that comes with do-release-upgrade's
 @tomreyn, The secret Sauce? 😳
 Now I am curious. I never Updated ubuntu, this is the first time I did it
[14:14] <tomreyn> Franzpow: do-release-upgrader downloads some scripts from the web when it carries out the upgrade. these scripts are suually for cleaning up the mess when you have changes such as switching from unity to gnome-shell as the default desktop.
[14:15] <tomreyn> about what you posted to termbin.com: have a look at it, there are warnings in it
[14:15] <tomreyn> which tell you what needs to be done
 @tomreyn, I don't understand what to do. When I click on this link there's a bug on telegram desktop that opens wine browser endlessly and I am forced  to use the task manager.  … If I copy the link on my browser I see the home page of termbin. I don't know what to do, I also opened the file that I posted here to you and there are a lot of errors that I don't know what they mean..
 I am sorry for my ignorance
[14:24] <tomreyn> on the phone, bbl
[14:31] <OerHeks> telegram .. wine.. oh boy
 I am not using windows version, wine keeps popping up whenever I click on a link on the telegram that
[14:34] <OerHeks> that prop telegram runs on wine, and i have no clue about wine
[14:38] <tomreyn> Franzpow: you can install an irc client and come here directly if you like.
[14:38] <tomreyn> we're on irc.freenode.net in channek #kubuntu
[14:39] <tomreyn> *channeL
[14:39] <tomreyn> the link you posted is this https://termbin.com/d49f
[14:39] <tomreyn> it's short, you can just type it into another web browser if it helps.
 @tomreyn, I have no problems to open this one. It is this one:* … http://termbin.com … to give me problems
 @tomreyn, Yep, I have no idea on what to do. Btw I will join you on IRC
[14:41] <tomreyn> well that's their homepage, not the link you posted.
 Yeah.  lines are warnings, you need to make all of them go away
[14:44] <tomreyn> to do so, you need to sudoedit the file at /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:45] <tomreyn> this file defines where apt, the software installer / updater, gets its updates from
[14:45] <Franzo> Oh. Maybe I understand. I will try to edit it
[14:45] <tomreyn> these warnings are about repetitions in your configuration file. apparently there are the same entries in lines 36 and 60 of this file, for example
[14:45] <tomreyn> W: L'obiettivo Packages (partner/binary-amd64/Packages) è configurato molteplici volte in /etc/apt/sources.list:36 e /etc/apt/sources.list:60
[14:46] <tomreyn> ^ this says so at least
 Maybe I made some errors yesterday trying to configure repositories
[14:47] <tomreyn> other warnings messages refer to other lines, so make sure you go through all of this file and end up with out duplicates. or you could just overwrite all of what you have by a fresh copy of the file:
[14:47] <tomreyn> !sources.list
[14:50] <tomreyn> i'm not sure how up to date this is but here's a kubuntu (graphical interface) way to managing this sources.list file: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[14:51] <tomreyn> but actually editing the file is probably the better approach, the GUI may not be able to remove all of the duplicates.
[14:58] <Franzo> I opened sources.list But I don't find duplicates. I am sorry I am not able to do this
[15:08] <tomreyn> Franzo: you got the line numbers in those messages, have you tried to compare those line pairs?
[15:08] <tomreyn> also welcome to irc
[15:09] <tomreyn> your other option remains to make backups (you need to do this anyways) and to install a fresh copy.
[16:00] <Franzo> I solved the warnings. Now there are the other errors. How to solve them?
 I solved the W... lines of the file
[16:01] <Franzo> Now I need to solve the other errors written there
[16:06] <tomreyn> Franzo: can you post the output again?
[16:07] <tomreyn> export LANG=C; sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog
[16:07] <tomreyn> the "export LANG=C" makes it so it's in english
[16:08] <tomreyn> Franzo: also, please mentioned my nickname more when responding, so i dont miss it so easily.
[16:16] <crydotsnake-M> What is the next update version after Kubuntu 19.04?.
[16:16] <crydotsnake-M> I mean when the support ends for Kubuntu 19.04
[16:22] <tomreyn> crydotsnake-M: 19.10 is the next version, and the version you'll need to upgrade to.
[16:22] <tomreyn> upgrades to 19.10 are not supported, yet, but will be in a couple days or a week. keep trying.
[16:24] <crydotsnake-M> Okay! :)
[16:24] <OerHeks> 19.04 + 9 months
[16:24] <crydotsnake-M> How do i know when i can upgrade from 19.04 to 19.10?
[16:25] <OerHeks> you will know, when the update path is in your update dialog
[16:25] <nms> do-release-upgrade
[16:26] <crydotsnake-M> `sudo apt release-upgrade` ?
[16:27] <nms> do-release-upgrade
[16:27] <nms> sudo apt update
[16:27] <nms> sudo apt uprade
[16:27] <nms> sudo apt upgrade
[16:28] <nms> sudo  apt do-release-upgrade
[16:28] <nms> ignore uprade line
[16:30] <Franzo> Tomreyn: Here we go
[16:30] <Franzo> https://termbin.com/wqs7
[16:39] <crydotsnake-M> No new ubuntu versions found at the moment.
[16:42] <tomreyn> Franzo: sorry, this time i just got sidetracked
[16:43] <tomreyn> Franzo: so this looks a lot better already
[16:43] <tomreyn> Franzo: you are now mixing apt mirrors from different countries still, though
[16:44] <tomreyn> you probably want use ONE of it.archive.ubuntu.com and cz.archive.ubuntu.com, not both.
[16:44] <tomreyn> so pick one of the two and remove all references to it off your sources.list file.
[16:44] <Franzo> Oh.. so I have to edit it in /var/lib/dpkg ?
[16:45] <Franzo> ah ok in sources.list
[16:45] <tomreyn> same file you edited previously
[16:45] <Franzo> Maybe I can edit with muon manager
[16:45] <Franzo> because I saw an option where you can set the preferred selver
[16:45] <Franzo> *Server
[16:45] <Franzo> am I right?
[16:49] <tomreyn> Franzo: yes and no. this GUI works fine when you start with a default / clean sources.list. but that's not what you have.
[16:50] <Franzo> Tomreyn: so I am deleting all the references to cz server on sources.list
[16:50] <tomreyn> Franzo: makes sense to me, since you appear to be in italy.
[16:52] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone
[16:53] <Zoohouse> I'm having trouble with my korgenize... I want to connect to my google account but I have 2 factor auth. When I login to my account and am prompted to insert my yubi key, it doesn't work. Is there a way to fix this?
[16:54] <Franzo> Tomreyn: now I have this: https://termbin.com/5dtk
[16:58] <tomreyn> Franzo: much better, but you're still missing eoan-security and eoan-updates. you can use the GUI to add those
[17:06] <Franzo> tomreyn: I see that on discover these updates are activated
[17:07] <Franzo> How can I activate them? Do I have to add the repository manually?
[17:07] <Zoohouse> Nevermind, I just figured out if you leave the auth windo open long enough it will fail which causes google to ask if you want to auth with another method. I choose another method and it works now.
[17:08] <tomreyn> Franzo: disable them on discover, close discover, open discover, enable them on discover.
[17:09] <tomreyn> then close discover, then run: export LANG=C; sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog
[17:21] <tomreyn> Franzo: any luck?
[17:22] <tomreyn> you need to get this working, or you'll not get bug fixes and, more importantly, security patches
[17:23] <Franzo> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/n9ch
[17:24] <Franzo> It's like before
[17:27] <Franzo> I did all as you said
[17:43] <tomreyn> Franzo: oh its already configured, sorry, i must have missed it. so this looks fine
 Tomreyn: oh ok so what are those errors?
[18:09] <tomreyn> Franzpow: which errors are you referring to?
[18:09] <tomreyn> the output you last posted did not show any errors nor warnings
 @Franzo, Oh, I believed that those numbers were referring to errors
[18:31] <tomreyn> no, that's just informative output from the commands you were running
 Ok, Thank you!
[22:31] <anonymous_> b
[23:35] <Vieira> Hi, could you help me how to find the intel graphic card repository, i need to update the driver, but there is no repository and i don't now where to find it
[23:37] <valorie> Vieira: run ubuntu-drivers and it will find the driver you need
[23:38] <valorie> easiest way to do that is in krunner: alt+space
[23:38] <valorie> or alt+ F4
[23:38] <valorie> err, alt + f2
[23:38] <valorie> sorry
[23:38] <Vieira> its a 3rd generation intel driver, but iI don't find any updated driver
[23:39] <valorie> f4 closes the window
[23:40] <valorie> I found this in askubuntu: The Intel graphics driver is part of the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver package, which is installed on all Ubuntu systems by default. And since it isn't a proprietary driver package, it doesn't show up in jockey (aka the Hardware Drivers application).
[23:40] <valorie> no longer called jockey afaik
[23:40] <tomreyn> there won't be updates for it, other than !LTSE
[23:41] <tomreyn> and on newer kubuntu releases, of course
[23:41] <tomreyn> rather focus on what's not working and try to fix / work around it
[23:41] <valorie> another suggestion is to install mesa-utils
[23:42] <valorie> however I think that is installed by default
[23:42] <valorie> sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[23:43] <Vieira> i have tried to update by the default repository, but it says that its a broken package
[23:45] <Vieira> its missing some dependencies
[23:47] <tomreyn> what would "update by the default repository" look like, in a command line, if you can tell?
[23:47] <Vieira> xorg-video-abi23 and xserver-xorg-core
[23:47] <Vieira> are the missing dependecies
[23:48] <tomreyn> i think you did something nasty, installed a package from ... somewhere
[23:48] <tomreyn> you can gather some info on apt's state and share it with us:
[23:48] <Vieira> i didn't have any unofficial repository
[23:48] <tomreyn> sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog
[23:50] <Vieira> what really bothers me is that the intel repository is said as insecure
[23:51] <Vieira> the xorg repository i mean
[23:52] <tomreyn> which "xorg repositor" would that be?
[23:52] <tomreyn> +y
[23:52] <Vieira> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/intel-graphics-updates/ubuntu bionic InRelease
[23:53] <Vieira> its said that updating form this repository its not safe
[23:53] <Vieira> and that there is no file released there
 i didn't have any unofficial repository
[23:53] <tomreyn> Vieira: which kubuntu version are you running?
[23:53] <Vieira> kubuntu
[23:53] <Vieira> 18.04 lts
[23:54] <Vieira> with the kde-plasma, as you have guessed
[23:55] <OerHeks> that 3rd gen intel uses opengl 2.1, pretty old
[23:55] <Vieira> indeed
[23:58] <Vieira> have the intel abandoned the 3rd generation drivers at all?


[15:32] <n0wje> good morning all
[15:49] <n0wje> Happy New Year!
[16:32] <protonchris> n0wje: Happy new year to you.
[16:32] <mneptok> Chappy New Jeer!
[16:41] <n0wje> Well I tried to install Ubuntu on my New Dell Inspiron M5030 and because of acpi it failed. I even turned it off and Ubuntu did't detect my wifi .
[16:41] <n0wje> I had to resort to Fedora 14 64 bit
[16:43] <n0wje> the install went very well I might add. The only thing that scares me it the ATI driver. Sould I attempt!!!!
[16:43] <n0wje> sorry can't type today,
[16:44] <protonchris> I don't have any experience with ATI drivers.  I usually stick with nvidia.
[16:46] <n0wje> Well the Dell has a ATI and what do you say to the Wife, Take it back. Nooooo!
[16:46] <n0wje> I like to live!
[16:47] <protonchris> Hehe
[16:48] <n0wje> Well How has the irc meetings on Tuesday's going?
[16:53] <protonchris> We are only meeting once a month and the turnout has been very low.
[16:54] <n0wje> Oh I work at night so I can't attend.
[16:55] <n0wje> Man Fedora 14 is fast on this laptop.
[16:57] <mneptok> n0wje: are you dual-booting it?
[16:58] <n0wje> nope wipe window 7 and did clean install.
[17:00] <n0wje> got to refill coffee cup brb.
[17:00] <mneptok> why pay Microsoft's Windows tax if you never plan to use it? you're just feeding the competition. :/
[17:02] <n0wje> My wife wife bought me this laptop for Christmas and I did't know.
[17:02] <mneptok> ah.
[17:02] <n0wje> She is not savy to things of the computer.
[17:02] <mneptok> System76 or Zareason would gladly help you spend the money Dell refunds you.
[17:03] <n0wje> But she is learning. yeah but it's done and it works,
[17:03] <mneptok> be aware, if *anything* goes wrong with that computer Dell is going to refuse to service it until the software that shipped on it is restored.
[17:03] <n0wje> yes I know.
[17:04] <mneptok> good luck. glad you got it working.
[17:06] <n0wje> I made backup copies of HD and if something does go wrong I can reinstall Windows 7.
[17:09] <n0wje> It's cold today. have the wood stove going.
[17:23] <mneptok> it was chilly this morning, but warming now. but we're still in Montreal mode, where "cold" is defined differently.
[17:24] <mneptok> those single digits are most familiar, and even more unwelcome.
[21:07] <nick125> It's 60F here.
[21:26] <woowoo> nick125: are you back at school?
[21:28] <nick125> Head back the 2nd.
[21:59] <woowoo> so where are you now that it is 60F?
[22:04] <nick125> Edwardsville, IL near St. Louis.


[13:43] <mchl_nix> Hey. I was wondering where I can find the package name / source of the battery indicator. Specifically in 16.04
[13:44] <mchl_nix> Is that something up stream or specific to xubuntu?
[22:44] <bluesabre> mchl_nix, that's xfce4-power-manager's panel plugin
[22:44] <mchl_nix> I see.
[22:45] <mchl_nix> Is the code for it on launchpad?
[22:46] <bluesabre> mchl_nix, https://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-power-manager
[22:48] <mchl_nix> Oh. Thanks :)
[22:49] <mchl_nix> Are you familiar with this particular project?
[22:58] <bluesabre> mchl_nix, very vaguely, you'll want to join #xfce-dev and reach out there to find the devs
[22:58] <mchl_nix> I see. Will see tomorrow. Thanks for your time :)
[22:59] <bluesabre> no problemo


[00:00] <Daekdroom> Software center is like, years-light away from Synaptic!
[00:00] <sebsebseb> Daekdroom: oh its going to be improved a lot
[00:00] <sebsebseb> and the plan is for them to replace Synaptic with it from the default install
[00:00] <sebsebseb> in the default install
[00:01] <sebsebseb> Daekdroom: that was going to be 10.04, but then it didn't happen, as far as I know
[00:02] <sebsebseb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter
[00:02] <sebsebseb> Daekdroom: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter
[00:02] <Daekdroom> Yay.
[00:03] <sebsebseb> yeah there you go
[00:03] <sebsebseb> ^
[00:03] <Daekdroom> My mom got a new Cable TV/Internet bargain! I have another 20GB to download till the end of the month :3
[00:03] <Daekdroom> That could be used to update to maverick..
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Daekdroom: update to mverick?
[00:03] <sebsebseb> no
[00:04] <Daekdroom> Too early, still? :(
[00:04] <sebsebseb> if you got your stable 10.04 now,  being used for data and  normal computer useage
[00:04] <sebsebseb> don't upgrade it to meverick any time soon
[00:04] <Daekdroom> well, I still got Windows 7 xD
[00:04] <sebsebseb> Daekdroom: if you watn to try mverick though do it the safe way and in a virtual machine
[00:04] <sebsebseb> and no point doing alpha 1
[00:04] <sebsebseb> in your case
[00:04] <Daekdroom> and the only thing I like bleeding edge is xorg.. so.. well, I better way?
[00:04] <sebsebseb> its very much so like 10.04, well the noticeable end user features
[00:05] <sebsebseb> Daekdroom: it takes them a while useually to get xorg stable or something like that
[00:05] <Daekdroom> I see. Be right back in a few mins.
[00:08] <DanaG> I like Ubuntu because PPAs make it easy to make it just as bleeding-edge as you want it to be.
[00:08] <sebsebseb> DanaG: well nearly I guess, but not all programs are in a ppa
[02:10] <Volkodav> ghj Fylhjbl
[07:12] <sylon> error while loading shared libraries: libgnutls.so.13: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:12] <sylon> where is gnutls ?
[09:12] <Ian_corne> new kernel update in the oven :)
[09:13] <Ian_corne> maybe that fixed my problem
[10:09] <nebula> help me please help for ban  ubuntu ...
[10:32] <ripps> hmm... is anybody else having a werid rendering issue with evince, it won't scroll a page normally, it keeps only the top half of the image. Like each page is fixed layer being peeled away, without showing the bottom part of the page.
[10:32] <ripps> I'm having trouble describing it.
[11:45] <jpds> !test
[11:47] <Ian_corne> wake up ubottu !
[19:00] <BUGabundo_IsBack> HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
[19:02] <BUGabundo_IsBack> soooooooooooooooooooooo
[19:02] <BUGabundo_IsBack> how's the action this days?
[19:03] <BUGabundo_IsBack> what did i miss?
[19:03] <BUGabundo_IsBack> besides
[19:03] <BUGabundo_IsBack> 339 packages upgraded, 19 newly installed, 9 to remove and 8 not upgraded.
[19:03] <BUGabundo_IsBack> Need to get 404MB of archives. After unpacking 267MB will be used.
[19:04]  * om26er calls the floodbot ;)
[19:04] <Ian_corne> BUGabundo_IsBack: wb!
[19:05] <BUGabundo_IsBack> yo sir, thank you
[19:05] <Ian_corne> BUGabundo_IsBack: kernel updates are on the frits for now
[19:05] <BUGabundo_IsBack> om26er: missed me ?
[19:05] <BUGabundo_IsBack> oh great
[19:05] <Ian_corne> well they were this morning
[19:05] <Ian_corne> aha seems fixed
[19:05] <BUGabundo_IsBack> ehe managed to control my bug mail
[19:05] <Ian_corne> 102 packages upgraded, 7 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[19:05] <BUGabundo_IsBack> only 76 emails :D
[19:06] <Ian_corne> and i've upgraded yesterday :D
[19:19] <BUGabundo_IsBack> 58% [261 myspell-pt-br 665792/1,336kB 49%] [11 chromium-browser-dbg 73566553/101MB 72%]                                                     146kB/s 19min 22s
[19:19] <BUGabundo_IsBack> hummm are the mirrors slow?
[19:20] <jpds> Which mirror?
[19:20] <BUGabundo_IsBack> http://mirrors.fe.up.pt/pub/ubuntu/
[19:20] <BUGabundo_IsBack> 138kB/s
[19:20] <BUGabundo_IsBack> bahhh
[19:20] <Ian_corne> gaosu is fast tho!
[19:21] <jpds> BUGabundo_IsBack: It's you.
[19:21] <BUGabundo_IsBack> 400MBs is gonna take tooo long
[19:21] <jpds> BUGabundo_IsBack: I'm getting 14.47M/s to that box.
[19:21] <BUGabundo_IsBack> bah
[19:21] <jpds> 465,617,496   17.62M/s    ETA 00:15
[19:21] <BUGabundo_IsBack> my isp screew me while I was out
[19:21] <BUGabundo_IsBack> yeah they are on Gigabit
[19:21] <jpds> And, so am I.
[19:21] <BUGabundo_IsBack> I think like 6gb for the all complex
[19:24] <BUGabundo_IsBack> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316272
[19:24] <BUGabundo_IsBack> wow that bug is a mess
[19:24] <BUGabundo_IsBack> ppl that should know better keep fighiting at each other
[19:27] <jpds> Interesting.
[19:29] <BUGabundo_IsBack> jpds: what? the bug?
[19:30] <BUGabundo_IsBack> its as old as LP
[19:56] <BUGabundo_IsBack> one week worth of updates, including X, and kernel....
[19:56] <BUGabundo_IsBack> I wonder if ill survive a reboot
[19:57] <patdk-wk> heh
[19:57] <BUGabundo_IsBack> no, I trully do
[19:57] <patdk-wk> I have been noticing after an update, the next reboot uses 2.5x times as much memory as normal
[19:57] <BUGabundo_IsBack> really?
[19:57] <patdk-wk> I think cause of ureadahead rebuild
[19:57] <BUGabundo_IsBack> Mem:       4059284    3720648     338636          0      78556    1726968
[19:57] <patdk-wk> but if I reboot again, it will be back to normal
[19:57] <patdk-wk> that in an invalid mem line :)
[19:57] <BUGabundo_IsBack> The following packages are BROKEN:
[19:57] <BUGabundo_IsBack>   kmail-dbgsym
[19:57] <BUGabundo_IsBack> lovelly!
[19:58] <gnomefreak> its fine atleast here
[19:58] <patdk-wk> after an update, 500megs ram used (after reboot)
[19:58] <patdk-wk> every reboot, after that, only 200megs ram used
[19:58] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_IsBack: so are libavcodec-extra-52 libavutil-extra-50
[19:58]  * gnomefreak doesnt have KDE installed at this time
[19:59] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_IsBack: you dont need -dbgsym since apport now does eveything
[19:59] <gnomefreak> well most everything
[19:59] <BUGabundo_IsBack> gnomefreak: that's been broken preatty much all cycle
[19:59] <BUGabundo_IsBack> only VLC works here
[20:00] <BUGabundo_IsBack> gnomefreak: not when reporting upstream
[20:00] <BUGabundo_IsBack> to kde or gnome
[20:00] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_IsBack: it started about 1-2 weeks ago for me
[20:00] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_IsBack: you can file it upstream and use the stuff on LP bug
[20:00] <gnomefreak> it should have tracebacks and friends
[20:00] <BUGabundo_IsBack> damn it
[20:01] <BUGabundo_IsBack> how does the bright applet manages to be broken for 3 cycles?
[20:01] <gnomefreak> and my day just gets better. now multiverse is down
[20:01] <BUGabundo_IsBack> you scroll over it, the next time you do, it stops working
[20:01] <gnomefreak> applet changes are going to be big this cycle at least for gnome
[20:02] <gnomefreak> indicator-applet
[20:05] <gnomefreak> the dbgsys packages are from pittis repo not offifical so feel free to remove broken packages
[20:05]  * gnomefreak should spend tomorrow rebuilding packages against the 2 packages above
[20:09] <gnomefreak> and im out. be back tomorrow maybe in a better mood
[20:10] <Ian_corne> aha patdk-wk it's always after an update? :D
[20:10] <patdk-wk> yep
[20:15] <patdk-wk> I updated again today, and high memory usage
[20:16] <Ian_corne> trying here too
[20:16] <Ian_corne> where should we file the bugreport?
[20:16] <Ian_corne> or isn't it actually a bug
[20:17] <patdk-wk> I would call it one
[20:17] <patdk-wk> but I have no clue where
[20:17] <patdk-wk> is it a ureadahead bug? is it something else? dunno
[20:18] <Ian_corne> I confirm!
[20:18] <Ian_corne> it does happen
[20:18] <patdk-wk> I'm outtie
[20:27] <Ian_corne> I wonder if the same is true on a lucid system..
[21:01] <Ian_corne> how come we're not testing x 1.9 yet?
[21:15] <duffydack> Still no btrfs enabled daily iso ?
[21:53] <knittl> aptitude safe-upgrade wants to remove linux-generic??? oO
[21:53] <BUGabundo_IsBack> eheh
[21:54] <BUGabundo_IsBack> some times it does happen
[21:54] <knittl> but it shouldn't remove it?
[21:56] <Ian_corne> it shouldn't
[21:56] <BUGabundo_IsBack> it shouldn't
[21:56] <BUGabundo_IsBack> very tricky what ever you have
[21:56] <BUGabundo_IsBack> maybe you pin it higher
[22:23] <BUGabundo_IsBack> hummm
[22:24] <BUGabundo_IsBack> desktop couch broken again?
[22:24] <BUGabundo_IsBack> or is its nice way to tell me to reboot?
[22:24] <BUGabundo_IsBack> gwibber is eating all my cores
[22:46] <yofel> knittl: sure that it doesn't just want to remove the old headers?
[22:57] <BUGabundo_IsBack> yofel: o/
[22:57] <yofel> hey ;)
[23:44] <BUGabundo_IsBack> is anyone packaing googleCli?
[23:45] <jpds> The Debian guys were fussing about it yesterday.
[23:48] <BUGabundo_IsBack> http://bugs.debian.org/585935


[17:51] <BCM43> Is there a good list of the features of edubuntu that I would be able to give to teachers?
[17:58] <Lns> BCM43: you might just want to show them the list of applications available with edubuntu
[17:58] <Lns> http://www.edubuntu.org/applications/8.10 (for Edubuntu 8.10)
[17:59] <BCM43> Lns: looks good, thanks
[18:00] <Lns> BCM43: you're welcome =) let us know if you have any other questions
[18:00] <BCM43> Lns: Acntully, have you ever installed edubuntu in a school enviroment?
[18:01] <Lns> BCM43: I have installed many applications that Edubuntu uses, yes
[18:03] <BCM43> Lns: how have teachers reacted. From the few that  I have installed it for, they seem to like it, and I am thinking about installing about 10 more.
[18:03] <Lns> BCM43: reactions as far as what?
[18:04] <BCM43> Lns: how well the switch went, whether they liked it, if it had what they needed.
[18:05] <Lns> BCM43: well most of the sites I switched were going from Win2k to Ubuntu... best description is here: http://linux.com/news/enterprise/case-studies/16798-linux-makes-the-grade-in-california-schools
[18:06] <Lns> Thought it doesn't say much about edubuntu apps specifically, it's essentially the same
[18:06] <BCM43> thanks
[18:06] <BCM43> I'm working on doing it in a nyc public school and I might write it up later.
[18:07] <Lns> BCM43: awesome!
[18:08] <Lns> BCM43: keep us updated, it's always nice to hear about successful installs. Are you doing LTSP on top of edubuntu as well?
[18:09] <BCM43> Lns: not on about 3 hours a week I am not.  I do community service there for school, and go there on my own time sometimes, but this is not even a part time thing.
[18:10] <BCM43> plus I would have to lean more about it as I don't know enough yet.
[18:10] <Lns> BCM43: so how many systems are you going to install it on?
[18:12] <BCM43> Lns: I have it on 5, we are getting 10 more of the same donated, and there are 5 on which I would like to install it but there is a bug in the bios and since the bios is locked down, only the Department of Education can update it, so I have to go through a lot to get that done.
[18:12] <Lns> yikes
[18:13] <Lns> that's pretty hardcore =)
[18:14] <BCM43> Lns: dont get me started on the Department of Education in nyc. Windows only. Viruses going all over the place, and the school I am working at can no longer pay for a tech support person.
[18:15] <BCM43> You know you need more money when a 16 year old is doing all your tech support as community service.
[18:15] <Lns> BCM43: it's all too common, unfortunately. You would be doing the DoE a service by installing Linux on any of these systems and persuading them to learn how to use it
[18:16] <Lns> With LTSP, administration is easier than Windows domain / roaming profile/etc stuff could ever be
[18:16] <Lns> I'm sure you already know that though ;)
[18:16] <BCM43> Yes
[18:18] <BCM43> The only problem I am having is that there is some special management software that the special education teachers use that I need to find a way to get working on linux. I don't have time to teach them or set up a free version, and I'm not sure the computers can run a vm. I have to try out wine.
[18:19] <Lns> what's the software?
[18:19] <BCM43> iep pro
[18:20] <Lns> hmm, looks web based - have you tried it in linux/firefox?
[18:21] <BCM43> Lns: there is a special client that you need.
[18:21] <Lns> ah
[18:22] <Lns> Well, any moderately equipped server could handle a VM... I use VMWare myself, but there's also Virtualbox and KVM that apparently work very well too
[18:22] <Lns> very little overhead to run a virtual server these days
[18:23] <BCM43> ok. I would need to read up a bit on how to set it up first, but I will look into it.
[18:24] <BCM43> Lns: I would love to switch them to this, but I have no idea if it is possible. I have tired both, and this is superior. http://iep-ipp.sourceforge.net/
[18:26] <Lns> wow
[18:26] <Lns> I've never heard of this software
[18:26] <BCM43> this too need a server, and I have to keep in mind that the server room is the old projection room for the auditorium, with no windows and just a fan.
[18:26] <BCM43> Lns: yea, they have a web demo and it seems really good.
[18:26] <Lns> This is something that we might want to include in edubuntu
[18:27] <Lns> if possible
[18:27] <Lns> highvoltage, stgraber : ^^^
[18:27] <BCM43> good idea. Development seems to have stagnated.
[18:27] <BCM43> http://iep-ipp.marketplace.ca/src/launch.php
[18:28] <Lns> maybe it "just works" =)
[18:29] <BCM43> Lns: from the demo, it seems that way. I need to set up a server to test it with.
[18:29] <BCM43> I also need more time. :)
[18:31] <Lns> i hear ya
[18:31] <Lns> I shouldn't even be here right now =p
[18:32] <Lns> my first day trying to allocate time during the work day so i get more stuff done, and i'm behind schedule ;)
[18:32] <BCM43> Lns: are you in this channel often? If not, could I have an email to keep you updated or ask questions?
[18:32] <BCM43> Lns: well, don't let me take up your time.
[18:32] <Lns> I'm here a lot, yeah - I'm in California
[18:32] <Lns> No no, it's ok, I'm doing other stuff =)
[18:33] <BCM43> Lns: ok, I will be back every so often with updates and questions.
[18:33] <Lns> You can always ask questions here - if you want my e-mail though, its jerickson -at- logicalnetworking -dot- net
[18:33] <Lns> I'm sure others would be able to answer some questions better than I could here though, so always check here first
[18:33] <BCM43> ok
[18:33] <BCM43> thank
[18:33] <Lns> yw, good luck!
[20:48] <alkisg> Has anyone got sabayon to work from sbalneav's PPA?
[21:03] <dgroos> alkisg: I'm getting close to starting to test it.
[21:04] <alkisg> For me, when I press the [Edit] button to edit a profile, it just hangs there...
[21:04] <alkisg> I tried changing my UI to en_US to test if that was to blame, but nothing changed


[01:31] <Slam-er> hello
[01:32] <Slam-er> can anyone tell me if the ubuntuone server is hammered? The website is very slow and almost unresponsive
[01:38] <spm> Slam-er: looks like one of the daemons went gaga; I've restarted so should be gold again.
[01:38] <Slam-er> Okay, thanks, would this affect the actual operation of ubuntuone as well? I've been having a bear of a time trying to get my data uploaded
[01:39] <Slam-er> my applet say's all of my files are up to date but it's only uploaded 2gb of 16gb worth of files
[04:36] <Slam-er> hello, is anyone available to answer a question?
[05:57] <Slam-er_> hello, anyone here?
[06:11] <spm> Slam-er_: some are, some aren't. :-) your best bet is just ask the Q, if someone can help, they will.
[06:12] <Slam-er_> thanks, well I'm just wondering if there is a server side issue going on
[06:13] <Slam-er_> the applet say's everything is synced but I have 12gb of data that hasn't uploaded, I can't figure out where the problem is
[06:13] <Slam-er_> read a lot of bug reports, seen similair issues but no solutions or suggestions
[06:13] <spm> we've having fun with the web front end atm; but I'm not aware of issues with the rest of the system.
[06:14] <spm> but what you're describing sounds like a bug. somewhere...
[06:14] <Slam-er_> does the client push the data or does the server pull it? also, the only obvious error I can see is som pol-kit errors, could that be related?
[06:15] <spm> I believe it's client push - if only that that makes more sense. "pol-kit" errors?
[06:16] <Slam-er_> give me a second, I'll get the right terminology... I have to look it up
[06:16] <spm> np
[06:18] <Slam-er_> something like this bug... I get this a lot
[06:18] <Slam-er_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client/+bug/451154
[06:20] <spm> hmm. well the good news there is that a new client should be released RSN to fix it.
[06:22] <Slam-er_> how soon should that be?
[06:25] <spm> good Q. not sure. it was released to the beta ppa early Sat morning fwiw
[06:27] <Slam-er_> oh, okay, is there any documentation on it available? I'm pretty new to Ubuntuone so I've been doing some catch up
[06:31] <spm> the beta ppa? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuone/+archive/beta
[06:31] <spm> tho. that's not so much docco as "here 'tis"
[06:33] <Slam-er_> okay, thanks, I hope this does the trick
[06:39] <spm> the main website has some links down the bottom that may help too; to the faq etc; worst case, use the launchpad answers system and ask question(s) there.
[06:47] <Slam-er_> okay, I'll look around and see what else I can find, thanks for helping out, are you a developer or a tester by the way?
[06:49] <Slam-er_> I gotta get some sleep now, thanks again for answering my questions
[06:51] <spm> developer? tester??? you wrong me. sysadmin. ;-)
[06:52] <spm> night
[07:16] <lodder> issue with ubuntuone webservice?
[07:20] <spm> lodder: yeah. being a tad painful atm. we're aware of and monitoring closely. try try try again.
[07:21] <lodder> spm: just did now it works ;)
[07:42] <nijaba> teknico: hello
[07:42] <teknico> nijaba, there we are
[07:42] <nijaba> so what can I do appart from telling you that I get a 404?
[07:43] <teknico> nijaba, does u1 in general work for you?
[07:43] <teknico> do you see the main page?
[07:43] <teknico> https://one.ubuntu.com/
[07:43] <teknico> that should then redirect to the Files tab
[07:44] <nijaba> teknico: I have had my share of issues since the begining, but seems to work ok on file sharing now
[07:44] <teknico> so you can get to the files tab
[07:44] <nijaba> teknico: lately I have ha to re associate my machines to my account a few times for not apparent reasons
[07:45] <nijaba> teknico: yes, definitely
[07:45] <teknico> nijaba, yeah, there have been a few problems with the service
[07:45] <teknico> can you get to the notes and account tabs too?
[07:45]  * nijaba trying
[07:46] <teknico> because I have a free, 2GB subscription, and the contacts tab is working for me
[07:46] <nijaba> teknico: only contact seems to have a pb
[07:46] <teknico> I'm trying to understand what's different for you
[07:46] <teknico> can you try logging out and back in?
[07:47] <nijaba> teknico: sure
[07:50] <teknico> nijaba, this morning my u1 applet is not connecting, I wonder if it's related
[07:50] <nijaba> teknico: Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
[07:50] <nijaba> The proxy server could not handle the request GET /auth/login/. Reason: Error reading from remote server
[07:50] <nijaba>  Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.5.2 mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g Server at one.ubuntu.com Port 443
[07:51] <teknico> that's after logging in with launchpad?
[07:52] <nijaba> teknico: just after clicking on sign in
[07:52] <nijaba> teknico: but I have not been redirected to lp yet
[07:52] <teknico> mmm, look like some of the web servers are down
[07:53] <teknico> it's strange that you always get the broken ones, and I always the working ones, though :-)
[07:54] <nijaba> teknico: yeah, I tend to have bad luck with u1 :P
[07:54] <teknico> nijaba, I've logged out and now I can't login either, proxy error too
[07:55] <teknico> nijaba, thanks, I'll get some admin and see what's going on
[07:55] <nijaba> ah...  I feel less paranoid now :P
[08:00] <nijaba> teknico: woot, back online
[08:00] <nijaba> teknico: still get the same 404 on contacts though...
[08:01] <teknico> nijaba, yes, the app servers are having problems
[08:01] <teknico> your 404 is really strange though
[08:01] <teknico> nijaba, please try https://one.ubuntu.com/contacts/me/details/
[08:01] <nijaba> teknico: but the 404 error I've had ever since I have seen this tab appear
[08:01] <nijaba> teknico: same error
[08:02] <teknico> nijaba, do you get it on https://edge.one.ubuntu.com/contacts/ too?
[08:02] <nijaba> teknico: yep
[08:03] <teknico> nijaba, I need to get the logs, I'll get back to you, thanks for now
[08:03] <nijaba> teknico: sounds like some crazy stuff going on in the db for my account since the beginning
[08:04] <nijaba> teknico: I wish there was a procedure to delete and recreate an account
[08:04] <teknico> nijaba, can you file a bug with as more details as possible about your account problems?
[08:05] <teknico> nijaba, if you didn't already :-)
[08:05] <nijaba> teknico: my previous problem was filed in a bug
[08:05] <nijaba> teknico: the 404 one is not, do you want me to open one?
[08:05] <teknico> nijaba, which bug?
[08:06]  * nijaba searching
[08:07] <teknico> mmm, can't find bugs reported by you on neither ubuntuone-servers nor ubuntuone-client
[08:09] <nijaba> teknico: bug #362432
[08:10] <teknico> nijaba, ok, thanks. that's on ubuntuone-client
[08:10] <teknico> nijaba, please file another one at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+filebug specifically for the 404 on the contacts tab
[08:15] <nijaba> teknico: bug 456988
[08:16] <teknico> nijaba, great, thanks, I'll update you there when I understand what's going on
[08:16] <nijaba> teknico: cool, thanks
[13:14] <barlas> My ubuntuone client doesn't seem to be working
[13:18] <khtaam> one.ubuntu.com seems to be down
[13:19] <joshuahoover> barlas,  khtaam: unfortunately, we're experiencing some server issues currently...we're looking into them right now and trying to get fixed right away
[13:21] <barlas> joshuahoover, My client wasn't working before either.
[13:21] <joshuahoover> barlas: how long ago?
[13:21] <barlas> 3 days ago, that's when I actually tried syncing /uploading a file
[13:22] <joshuahoover> barlas: are you on 9.04?
[13:22] <barlas> joshuahoover, Yes, I am using KDE, before that it used to ask for password for gnome keyring and connect to server, now it doesn't do that either.
[13:23] <joshuahoover> barlas: do you have the latest update of the client? we released an important fix on monday
[13:24] <barlas> This monday? No, let me get that. Thanks
[13:25] <joshuahoover> barlas: ok, and remember, we are having some server issues right now so that may still prevent you from connecting...but it's worth a shot :)
[15:05] <alex-weeej> how do i configure my login?
[15:05] <joshuahoover> hi alex-weeej: i'm not sure i understand your question
[15:05] <alex-weeej> since installing karmic i have not been asked to log in to launchpad for ubuntu one
[15:05] <alex-weeej> and so it does not work
[15:05] <alex-weeej> the applet does nothing when i click it
[15:05] <alex-weeej> it has no tooltip
[15:06] <alex-weeej> the "Connect" button does nothing in Nautilus
[15:06] <joshuahoover> alex-weeej: are you on 9.04?
[15:06] <alex-weeej> 9.10
[15:06] <joshuahoover> alex-weeej: more than likely, it's due to server issues right now...how long has this been going on?
[15:06] <CardinalFang> thisfred, aquarius, are you finished with my hardy box?
[15:06] <alex-weeej> how can it be due to server info? it doesn't even know my username is "alex-weej"
[15:07] <aquarius> CardinalFang, yes
[15:07] <alex-weeej> *server issues
[15:07] <thisfred> CardinalFang: quite
[15:07] <alex-weeej> joshuahoover, for since as long as ubuntuone came into karmic
[15:08] <joshuahoover> alex-weeej: ok, please make sure you have the latest updates and right-click on the ubuntu one client and select "report a problem" so that we can get some log info and track it there
[15:08] <alex-weeej> hang on hang on
[15:08] <alex-weeej> where on EARTH am i supposed to set my login details?
[15:08] <alex-weeej> preferences has nothing of the sort
[15:08] <joshuahoover> alex-weeej: it should prompt you with a web page to login
[15:08] <alex-weeej> oh ok
[15:08] <joshuahoover> alex-weeej: but right now that's not likely to happen due to server issues
[15:09] <alex-weeej> that's probably why then
[15:09] <joshuahoover> alex-weeej: but if it's been going on for a while, that's not good...if you go to ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/oauth-login.log can you post it to pastebin.canonical.com and post the link here?
[15:09] <alex-weeej> ah the client does respond now, but now i asked it to connect again it hangs for ages
[15:10] <alex-weeej> seems like the web-interface code is synchronous
[15:10] <alex-weeej> fail!
[15:14] <rodrigo_> no standup?
[15:18] <CardinalFang> One must only incant the magick words.
[15:18] <CardinalFang> MEETING BEGINS!
[15:18] <CardinalFang> me
[15:18] <rodrigo_> :)
[15:18] <rodrigo_> me
[15:19] <teknico> me
[15:19] <urbanape> me
[15:19] <dobey> me
[15:19] <aquarius> me
[15:20] <aquarius> statik, jblount, vds?
[15:20] <dobey> vds has a headache. he asked me to paste his status, but never pasted his status to me :P
[15:21] <dobey> jblount is searching for internets
[15:21] <teknico> let's start then
[15:22] <CardinalFang> ONE: Created couchdb and desktopcouch packages.  Fixed another bug (version at end of /var/log/couchdb/ in postinst) on the fly.
[15:22] <CardinalFang> TODO: Install clean karmic RC and test packages.
[15:22] <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: None
[15:22] <CardinalFang> rodrigo, s'il vous plait.
[15:23] <rodrigo_> • DONE: Fixed line breaks syncing between tomboy<->web UI. Copy/paste of contacts in evo-couchdb (https://bugs.launchpad.net/evolution-couchdb/+bug/451837). Continued looking at nested lists XML<->HTML problems
[15:23] <rodrigo_> • TODO: Talk to Ara about writing mago tests for evo-couchdb. Conflict resolver tool in pair tool. Look at becoming a MOTU (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers). openSUSE/Fedora packaging with aquarius. API documentation for couchdb-glib. Make sandy's snowy test suite work with our server (http://git.gnome.org/cgit/snowy/tree/api/tests.py). Discuss with jdo and aquarius about oauth token per app, not per machine?
[15:23] <rodrigo_> • BLOCKED: no
[15:23] <rodrigo_> teknico: go!
[15:23] <teknico> DONE: helped nijiba on #ubuntuone; fixed retrieval of invalid values in choice fields of the contact form (#456267)
[15:23] <teknico> TODO: more improvements to the contacts web UI (#456267); integrate the client-side code needed by delete buttons on repeatable sections of the contacts edit form (#439093)
[15:23] <teknico> BLOCK: none
[15:23] <teknico> next: urbanape
[15:23] <urbanape> DONE: Getting a goofy bug fixed and out the door. #455738
[15:23] <urbanape> TODO: Get a harder and more nasty Bindwood bug fixed and landed. #443121 Oof.
[15:23] <urbanape> BLOCK: Nothing besides tracking down some Mozilla Places devs and getting some help.
[15:23] <urbanape> dobey: one of your many lives, please.
[15:24] <statik> urbanape, are those two bugs critical enough that they have to be uploaded to karmic? if so, does asac know about them?
[15:24] <dobey> ☺ DONE: triage, Fixed clientdefs ImportError for tests,
[15:24] <dobey> ☹ TODO: triage, bug fixes,
[15:24] <dobey> ☹ BLCK: None.
[15:24] <dobey> aquarius: kachow!
[15:24] <aquarius> ⚀ DONE: helped Chex with couchdb setup; helped rmcbride build hardy u1couch; tried to fix spawning problems on one.ubuntu.com; branch for bug #455539
[15:24] <aquarius> ⚁ TODO: help thisfred with _users deployment in u1couch; fix my unknown couch token; look at oauth-enabling twisted; make tomboy first-sync experience nicer
[15:24] <aquarius> ⚂ BLOCKED: still have no oauth token
[15:24] <aquarius> ⚃ BUG COUNT:https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~sil/+assignedbugs?field.tag=ubuntuone-karmic - 1
[15:24] <aquarius> no-one next
[15:24] <urbanape> statik, only one bug, and I believe it's probably critical.
[15:24] <aquarius> dobey, good work on the clientdefs thing!
[15:24] <dobey> aquarius: i believe statik should be next? :)
[15:25] <aquarius> oops. statik?
[15:25] <statik> DONE: reverted to using paste instead of spawning and said many frustrated words about spawning only locking up under load and not during any of our testing
[15:25] <statik> TODO: help wherever i can with critical bugs
[15:25] <statik> BLOCKED: nope
[15:27] <aquarius> bah, my machine is doing that thing where you authorise it to get an oauth token and then it keeps popping up the authorise page again. dobey?
[15:27] <CardinalFang> Hrm, the karmic black&white boot image sort of pulses bright/dim.  I'm not sure I like that.
[15:28] <CardinalFang> (The shed should be green!)
[15:33] <jblount> Hi guys, re, and all of htat.
[15:33] <jblount> or that.
[15:33] <jblount> DONE: Lots of weird random bugs
[15:33] <jblount> TODO: Get copy changes up for mattgriffin on edge
[15:34] <jblount> BLOCKED: Had bad times with internet connection this morning, hoping for the best at random coffee shpo #1
[15:34] <jblount> EOM?
[15:36] <dobey> aquarius: the applet is doing it you mean?
[15:36] <aquarius> dobey, yep
[15:37] <dobey> aquarius: i guess the storage server is having issues, and syncdaemon is thinking auth failed
[15:37] <aquarius> dobey, start applet; web page pops up; I say "authorise this computer"; that web page navigates to localhost and then back to u1 correctly; wait a couple of seconds; I get a new tab asking me to authorise computer again. :(
[15:38] <dobey> aquarius: i think some recent fixes in trunk from facundo make that happen a lot less though
[15:40] <aquarius> dobey, ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon:/: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[15:40] <aquarius> and syncdaemon is not running
[15:40] <aquarius> I thought that the applet started it?
[15:40] <aquarius> do i have to run it manually?
[15:42] <dobey> the applet does start it
[15:42] <dobey> well, starts it after successful auth phase
[15:43] <dobey> if it starts up and gets AUTH_FAILED though, it's going to have the rinse/repeat thing happen
[15:43] <facundobatista> aquarius, dobey: what I did is stop confusing any error during oauth, with an oauth error
[15:43] <dobey> but that can also be circumvented by setting the pref to not connect on start
[15:44] <facundobatista> aquarius, dobey: so, say, if we have a timeout during auth, no more AUTH_FAILED is signaled
[15:44] <dobey> facundobatista: right, which would reduce the likelihood of the repetitive auth happening :)
[15:45] <facundobatista> dobey, yes, :)...
[15:48] <urbanape> statik, just sent a note to asac, rick, you and kenvandine asking for a nomination acceptance.
[15:49] <CardinalFang> 78 seconds to log-in prompt, in virtualbox.  :\
[15:50] <kenvandine> urbanape, thx
[15:51] <urbanape> kenvandine, np. While I knew Bindwood was replicating the livemarks, I didn't realize they were going to render the entire browser useless.
[15:52] <urbanape> I just thought they'd be clutter, but harmless clutter.
[15:52] <kenvandine> ok
[15:55] <barlas> joshuahoover, Still having problems after the update, I guess I will wait for the server problems to resolve before trying again.
[15:55] <joshuahoover> barlas: do you see any errors in ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/oauth-login.log?
[15:56] <barlas> joshuahoover, No, the last line says "We are online"
[15:57] <barlas> err.. sorry, wait
[15:57] <aquarius> facundobatista, ok, when I start ubuntuone-client-applet and it takes me through the oauth dance, syncdaemon exits:
[15:57] <aquarius> /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/action_queue.py:981: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6
[15:57] <aquarius>   logger.error("OAuth failed: %s", e.message)
[15:57] <aquarius> /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/action_queue.py:982: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6
[15:57] <aquarius>   self.event_queue.push('SYS_OAUTH_ERROR', error=e.message)
[15:58] <aquarius> facundobatista, once syncdaemon's printed those two, it exits
[15:58] <dobey> yes
[15:58] <dobey> you're not running trunk i think, but the version in karmic?
[15:58] <aquarius> dobey, correct
[15:59] <facundobatista> aquarius, that's code before my fix
[15:59] <dobey> aquarius: i also presume you care more about the token staying round than syncdaemon working right now?
[15:59] <aquarius> dobey, yes
[15:59] <barlas> joshuahoover, Getting "Authorization Error: name or service unknown" error now
[15:59] <facundobatista> aquarius, I recognize it because one of my small fixes was stop using the deprecated .message
[15:59] <aquarius> facundobatista, yeah, I'm running the karmic version; wasn't sure if your fix had hit release yet :)
[16:00] <dobey> aquarius: open prefs, quit the applet, set "connect on start" to "never", close prefs, and start the applet again
[16:00] <dobey> aquarius: sorry. i thought "in trunk" would have implied "probably not in karmic" :)
[16:01] <aquarius> dobey, when I open prefs and then kill the applet, the prefs window disappears too
[16:01] <barlas> joshuahoover,  "[Errno socket error] [Errno -2] Name or service not known" to be exact
[16:02] <dobey> aquarius: ok, well quit the applet and run ubuntuone-client-preferences
[16:02] <joshuahoover> dobey: is the error barlas is getting ^^ related to the server issues?
[16:02] <dobey> joshuahoover: no, it's a DNS lookup error
[16:03] <dobey> barlas: does running "host ubuntuone.com" in a terminal give you an IP for it?
[16:03] <aquarius> dobey, OK, so, now, when I run the applet it comes up as disconnected (the ! in a cloud).
[16:03] <dobey> aquarius: right
[16:04] <dobey> oh right, i forgot i put in a fix to avoid doing the auth if the applet is set to be disconnected
[16:04] <aquarius> indeed. :)
[16:05] <dobey> but there is still hope
[16:06] <aquarius> I am happy to follow instructions :P
[16:06] <barlas> dobey, I wasn't able to, but now I can. Am not getting that error now
[16:06] <barlas> Getting no error at all
[16:07] <dobey> aquarius: if you run d-feet, and call the login method on the applet, with ("https://ubuntuone.com", "ubuntuone") as the arguments
[16:07] <barlas> Have to leave, will be back later. Thanks
[16:07] <joshuahoover> barlas: is the client connecting?
[16:07] <dobey> aquarius: it should do the auth bits, and still avoid starting syncdaemon and connecting (but then failing to auth)
[16:07] <joshuahoover> barlas: ok, please ping me when you get back on
[16:08] <barlas> joshuahoover, Okay, thanks.
[16:09] <aquarius> excellent, thanks dobey
[16:14] <dobey> it would appear i'll be doing a fair bit of auth work for lucid
[16:22] <joshuahoover> dobey: for bugs like #456884 any tips on how to best triage these? i can't make sense out of them normally
[16:23] <dobey> ubottu:bug #456884
[16:24] <dobey> not exactly
[16:25] <dobey> joshuahoover: that one looks like the stack trace is incompelte
[16:25] <joshuahoover> dobey: hmmm...ok, wonder what we can tell the user
[16:26] <dobey> joshuahoover: looking at it, i'd say it is likely something in dbus or nautilus causing memory corruption, but those are a terrible pain to debug
[16:27] <joshuahoover> dobey: got ya
[16:29]  * dobey marks it incomplete and asks for more info
[16:30] <joshuahoover> thank you dobey
[16:33] <joshuahoover> dobey: some users (on karmic) are showing bugs with only this in the oauth log and really no other info: Starting Ubuntu One client version 1.0.2  ...it's probably related to server issues (based on the timing) but i'm concerned about that being the only thing logged...thoughts?
[16:34] <dobey> joshuahoover: i guess it depends on the issue. are they all "crash" issues?
[16:34] <joshuahoover> dobey: here's an example: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client/+bug/457068
[16:36] <dobey> joshuahoover: not sure. sounds like it could be the server issues, but i'd expect to see the connection error logged still
[16:37] <joshuahoover> dobey: yeah, that's what i was thinking...very strange
[16:37] <dobey> i suspect if tried again now though, it will work mostly ok
[16:38] <dobey> mostly in that it'll do the auth bits anyway
[16:39] <dobey> ok, well i'm gonna go get some lunch
[16:39] <dobey> bbiab :)
[17:33] <ukev> hi
[17:33] <ukev> my evolution contacts won't sync to ubuntu one, files and tomboy works
[17:34] <ukev> I have them in the desktop couch but it seems that the desktop couch does not replicate to ubuntu one
[17:34] <ukev> can anyone help me ? ;)
[17:38] <teknico> ukev, hi, I'm investigating, just a sec
[17:38] <ukev> ok, thank you
[17:41] <thisfred> ukev: this is in progress, but not ready yet
[17:41] <teknico> ukev, desktop couch replication with the service is not working yet, it should in a few days
[17:42] <ukev> ah ok... maybe a note on ubuntu one or in the faq would be nice because it seems to be ready (for at least testing it)
[17:44] <ukev> and another thing... do you think bindwood will also be ready for testing in a few days or will that need more time? I tested it and added a few comments here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bindwood/+bug/443121
[17:45] <ukev> because, when it needs more time, I will setup xmarks, but if I only had to wait a few days, I will wait... ;)
[17:56] <teknico> ukev, thanks for the comments, bindwood should not take longer either
[17:57] <dobey> ukev: as i understand it, the client side is all ready, but we're working on a fix necessary on the server to make that piece work, which should be updated in the next few days
[17:59] <ukev> ok, thank you
[17:59] <ukev> are there plans, what comes next?
[18:00] <teknico> ukev, we were thinking about time travel and teleportation, but there are a few bugs to solve yet ;-)
[18:00] <ukev> haha... nice one :)
[18:00] <ukev> please mail me, if you have solved them ;)
[18:00] <teknico> ukev, you'll be the first to know!
[18:00] <dobey> CERN is working on them
[18:01] <ukev> :D
[18:01] <dobey> but the LHC keeps breaking
[18:03] <dobey> so much drama in the LHC
[18:03] <dobey> life is hard bein' H I double Gs
[18:06] <jblount> dobey: PIMP
[18:07] <dobey> heh
[18:16] <dobey> i feel fat
[18:26] <nimh> ha ha, my last holiday I stopped outside of CERN
[18:27] <nimh> to have my photo taken with a large dipole magnet
[18:27] <nimh> I tried to get a tour, but I found out that you have to apply six months in advance
[19:12] <CardinalFang> nimh, the first use of time-travel will be to subvert the six-month wait for a tour.
[19:13] <nimh> hell no, if I get my hands on a time machine I'm going back in time to kidnap Bridgette Bardot, Debby Harry and Sophie Marceau
[19:20] <dobey> uh
[19:20] <dobey> ok
[20:48] <thisfred> CardinalFang: I was at europython when it was in CERN, and we went down into the ATLAS detector even :D
[20:50] <thisfred> I wonder  the reason it keeps breaking down just before going functional is that time travellers keep sabotaging it to prevent it blowing up the planet. Would that excuser work for couchdb replication to the cloud as well?
[20:51] <thisfred> heck, maybe I just bumped into something when I was down there. I know *that* excuse will work for couchdb replication...
[20:51] <rarrrrrr> though it shows promise, couchdb is yet to strongly exercise the anthropic principle ..
[20:53] <dobey> pirate day was last month :)
[20:54] <CardinalFang> thisfred, where did the time travelers come from?  The explosion must not be too bad if we progressed enough to build a time machine later.
[20:55] <thisfred> Maybe there was no explosion, and they want to keep time travel to themselves by having it never invented?
[20:55]  * thisfred implodes
[21:03] <hollman> hello all
[21:03] <hollman> how can I add my computer to ubuntuone ?
[21:05] <joshuahoover> hi hollman
[21:06] <joshuahoover> you should be able to open the ubuntu one client (applications->internet->ubuntu one) and then see a web page popup prompting you to add your computer to your account
[21:06] <joshuahoover> hollman: are you on 9.04 or karmic beta?
[21:08] <hollman_> hello all, how can I add my computer to my account of UbuntuOne ?
[21:08] <joshuahoover> hi hollman_: maybe you missed my message? you should be able to open the ubuntu one client (applications->internet->ubuntu one) and then see a web page popup prompting you to add your computer to your account
[21:10] <hollman_> joshuahoover:  Thanks , but it showme an error: Authorization Error: Ermo socket error ermo -2 Name or service not know
[21:10] <hollman_> :(
[21:10] <joshuahoover> hollman_: ok, if you go to a terminal session and type: host one.ubuntu.com
[21:11] <joshuahoover> hollman_: let me know what you get back
[21:15] <magatz> ok, the web is back.... but why i'm nont to upload a file?
[21:15] <magatz> i keep on getting: Internal Server Error
[21:16] <joshuahoover> magatz: you should be able to, i'm going to check here right now
[21:16] <magatz> sorry mispelled: i'm not able
[21:17] <hollman_> joshuahoover: $ host one.ubuntu.com Host one.ubuntu.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[21:17] <joshuahoover> hollman_: ok, that's the issue, it's a dns error...can you get to ubuntu.com in your web browser?
[21:18] <hollman_> joshuahoover: ohhh
[21:18] <hollman_> yes i Can
[21:18] <hollman_> *I
[21:18] <magatz> me too....
[21:18] <joshuahoover> hollman_: hmmm... ok, and how about https://one.ubuntu.com
[21:19] <hollman_> joshuahoover: yes I can
[21:19] <hollman_> I have a proxy server configured
[21:19] <magatz> me too with https, and no proxy configured
[21:20] <joshuahoover> hollman_: ahhh...ok, the client won't work behind a proxy server currently
[21:20] <hollman_> joshuahoover: haaaaaaa, thak you
[21:20] <hollman_> :(
[21:20] <hollman_> *thank
[21:20] <hollman_> :( ++
[21:20] <magatz> my 2cent.... now i can upload....
[21:20] <joshuahoover> magatz: still testing...so far i'm able to upload via the web ok, asking others to test...how big is the file you're uploading (shouldn't matter, but i might be able to do a better test here)?
[21:21] <magatz> small files... between 10 and 100 kb
[21:21] <magatz> wait i'm trying now
[21:21] <joshuahoover> magatz: ok
[21:23] <joshuahoover> magatz: we're getting some additional logging on the servers to help us nail down these errors...you shouldn't get a 500 even once
[21:24] <magatz> now i've just upload a 5,5 mb file without error....
[21:26] <joshuahoover> magatz: that's good to hear, in the mean time we're looking into the issue as it's not good that you get that even one time
[21:27] <magatz> a question: i'm using ubntuone from a desktop and a laptop
[21:27] <magatz> if my ubuntuone folder on  desktop pc there is a file called aaa.zip
[21:28] <magatz> do i expect to see the same file on my laptop ubuntu folder?
[21:28] <joshuahoover> magatz: it should, but due to some things we're tracking down right now with that part of the service, you may need to disconnect and connect your client to force it to see the change
[21:30] <joshuahoover> magatz: repost:  it should, but due to some things we're tracking down right now with that part of the service, you may need to disconnect and connect your client to force it to see the change
[21:33] <hollman> hey,  joshuahoover i remove the proxy configuration from my Computer, and i Continue with the problem ... :(