[00:00] <nfk> and then as i was near end of my secondary eduation it went crazy - fiber to premise and whatnot
[00:00] <Etriaph> austin6598: Try #opensuse (if that's a channel)
[00:00] <nfk> when i read it in the local newspaper i proclaimed it was some april fools joke (it was around april 1st)
[00:00] <austin6598> its just another kde
[00:00] <Etriaph> Dinner time, bbiab.
[00:00] <austin6598> its #suse
[00:01] <Etriaph> austin6598: Questions about SuSE should go to that channel.
[00:01] <austin6598> ok
[00:01] <nfk> naturally it turned out that it was no joke and the whole town was really getting a fiber overhaul
[00:01] <bprompt> http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode   <--- to check for channels
[00:02] <nfk> austin6598, there's not that many widgets, it's probably just default and extra though plasma 2 might have less or they might have been split up, not sure
[00:02] <nfk> currently i'm using my trusty gentoo workstation/server
[00:03] <nfk> kubuntu is for my laptop where i can't be bothered to keep a rolling distro, much less gentoo
[00:04] <nfk> damn, so late, night
[00:09] <austin6598> why are some apps in muon discover not showing the latest version available on their website?
[00:16] <bprompt> austin6598:      repositories carry the "compiled" packages in .deb, of the app, the latest version issued by the app developer, may or may not be available by him/herself in deb or rpm or whatever other binary, and usually is available as source to be compiled, and it'd differ a bit from the one the repository has, since the repository has the one they've compiled and test it
[00:17] <austin6598> i am trying to install this so i typed in terminal sudo -i and then what it said on the site http://pithos.github.io/#install
[00:17] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/WyYPDTyb/
[00:18] <austin6598> everything looks right but i dont see the program
[00:18] <bprompt> some devs provide a binary download from their website, most provide the source for compiling though, and versions from what the repository devs have compiled, and what the latest build the developer has, would have a time difference, by definition the developer would be ahead in the versioning
[00:20] <bprompt> austin6598:     often times you could find some precompiled material in places like rpmfind.com  or rpmseek.com , regardless of the name, they have rpm's as well as .debs
[00:20] <austin6598> bprompt ok but why didnt what i do work
[00:21] <bprompt> just keep in mind the version and libs needed, just because the .deb is there, doesn't mean, is for your architecture or distribution version
[00:21] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/uPLlUeXH/
[00:22] <bprompt> austin6598:     did you add the repository yet?  did it work?
[00:22] <austin6598> i believe so
[00:22] <austin6598> root@Austin-Desktop:~# sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pithos/ppa
[00:22] <austin6598>
[00:22] <austin6598>  More info: https://launchpad.net/~pithos/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[00:22] <austin6598> Press [ENTER] to continue or ctrl-c to cancel adding it
[00:22] <bprompt> austin6598:     Pithos 1.1.1 requires GTK 3.14+ (Ubuntu 15.04, Fedora 21).   <--- in case you missed it btw
[00:23] <austin6598> so how should i install this?
[00:25] <austin6598> i am running kubuntu 15.04
[00:46] <Etriaph> austin6598: http://paste.kde.org/ paste there and then put the link in the channel if you want to show output please.
[00:48] <austin6598> yea my client has a built in pastebin i used it earlier but it looked like you didnt see it
[00:48] <austin6598> "did you add the repository yet?  did it work?" after i sent the pastebin link
[00:48] <austin6598> sorry about that
[01:16] <austin6598> kde plasma 5 is constantly crashing
[01:19] <austin6598> it looks like there is something wrong with a graphics driver, i keep getting a notification for it and everything appears glitchy
[01:39] <Voyage_> I want performance at the cost of beauty in Kubuntu. What are my ways?
[02:09] <invaderzim123> Hello all! My sddm is screwed, after booting no login manager appears, only the message "Starting version 219". Looked in forums and no options have worked. Any ideas?
[02:09] <invaderzim123> Tried removing, purging, reinstalling, changing to XDM and coming back, issuing systemctl enable commands... Nothing makes SDDM show up after boot.
[02:09] <invaderzim123> I'm getting into KDE typing startx
[02:10] <invaderzim123> It started happening after a plasma crash, when I was on unicorn plasma 5 preview...
[02:37] <MichaelP> Guys that do Netrunner are the guys that back kubuntu right ?
[02:42] <valorie> invaderzim left
[02:42] <valorie> :(
[02:42] <valorie> MichaelP: Blue Systems makes netrunner and supports Kubuntu as well
[02:42] <valorie> and KDE
[02:51] <MichaelP> That what i thought... So since there is only one person ever in the netruuner channel... who supports them?
[02:54] <MichaelP> valorie: when you said and KDE.. So they back the kde project as well ?
[02:56] <valorie> not sure about IRC
[02:56] <valorie> yes, they are sponsoring Akademy this year
[02:57] <MichaelP> ok
[02:57] <valorie> and pay developers to work on KDE as well as Kubuntu and netrunner
[02:57] <valorie> but this would be a better conversation for #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:58] <MichaelP> I making live usb of Kubunti 15.04 right now. Netrunner 16 is good.. Uses to much ram
[02:59] <valorie> cool
[02:59] <valorie> I've never tried netrunner
[02:59] <MichaelP> open firefox.. your at 1.7 gig
[03:01] <MichaelP> It is kubuntu with 10x to much crap installed
[03:02] <MichaelP> boot 15.04 give it a shot
[03:18] <hudsonkem> hello, I have been got "kwin , command not found" when tried "kwin --help"
[03:21] <valorie>  hudsonkem, I'm not sure what you are trying to do, but you might find help in #plasma once some devels are awake
[03:21] <valorie> it's about 3am in europe where most of them live
[03:25] <hudsonkem> okay thx, ... my compositor not working as  well, kubuntu 15.04+kde 5.3.1
[03:39] <valorie> hudsonkem: he'll probably want the output to `qdbus org.kde.KWin /KWin supportInformation`
[03:39] <valorie> when he comes online, which as I said, might be some hours
[03:43] <hudsonkem> ok thx again
[04:00] <SergioEDuran1> Hello
[04:00] <valorie> hi SergioEDuran1, can we help?
[04:02] <SergioEDuran1> Of course
[04:02] <SergioEDuran1> there is some plasma 5 homerun like app launcher?
[04:03] <valorie> I can't recall what homerun was, but right-click on the launcher and try the alternatives
[04:03] <SergioEDuran1> I searched on the NetRunner packages and there is not homerun anymore
[04:03] <valorie> there are alternatives for most everything in the panel
[04:04] <valorie> !info homerun
[04:04] <SergioEDuran1> nope
[04:04] <bshah> there is no fullscreen launcher.. no
[04:04] <SergioEDuran1> so sad
[04:05] <SergioEDuran1> the actual kickoff looks beautyfull on Kubuntu but not on Netrunner with it's artwor
[04:06] <SergioEDuran1> k
[04:06] <bshah> maybe try kicker.. :)
[04:07] <bshah> it have more features then kickoff
[04:07] <SergioEDuran1> I am using it
[04:07] <SergioEDuran1> the more classical launcher no?
[04:08] <SergioEDuran1> the one wich Blue systems proposed and is now the replacement of the  applications menu
[04:09] <SergioEDuran1> previously named homerun kicker
[06:33] <drawkward> I accidentally close the search bar in muon. Now I can't find a way to get it back. Is this a bug?
[06:35] <drawkward> How do I get back the search bar in Muon?
[06:38] <__dan__> drawkward: tried CTRL-F ?
[06:38] <valorie> drawkward: try Control+M
[06:39] <__dan__> lol touche :P
[06:39] <drawkward> __dan__: valorie Yes I tried both. Doesn't seem to work
[06:40] <drawkward> control+shift+M gives me a weird dialog box saying Muon has super cow powers!
[06:40] <__dan__> which version of Kubuntu?
[06:40] <bshah> :D
[06:40] <valorie> ha!
[06:40] <__dan__> ahahah awesome
[06:40] <bshah> easter eggg..
[06:40] <bshah> :p
[06:40] <__dan__> anyone else trying that: turn your sound down :P
[06:40] <drawkward> 14.10
[06:41] <__dan__> ahhh ok i was trying on 15.04, i have a 14.04 machine here tho
[06:42] <valorie> so when I click on teh > on the right above the search field, it gets covered up
[06:42] <valorie> but when I click it again, that disappears, and there is the search field again
[06:42] <valorie> this is in 15.04
[06:43] <__dan__> yeah I just disabled my toolbar on 14.04 and now i dont know how to get it back either
[06:43] <valorie> but afaik muon has not been ported to plasma5 anyway
[06:43] <valorie> control+M usually
[06:43] <valorie> toggles
[06:44] <__dan__> nope
[06:44] <__dan__> used the little menu button top right of window, "show toolbar" and now i believe i'm in the same boat as drawkward
[06:44] <valorie> dan, the main taskbar?
[06:44] <__dan__> yeah the one with the search bar on it
[06:44] <valorie> or the the one in muon
[06:45] <__dan__> oh sorry yeah it's within the muon window
[06:45] <__dan__> remembers the setting too
[06:45] <drawkward> I find this very weird.
[06:46] <drawkward> But the super cow powers was an interesting thing to chance upon!
[06:46] <valorie> Settings > show toolbar
[06:46] <__dan__> hehe ya i never seen that before
[06:46] <__dan__> yeah thats the one valorie
[06:46] <valorie> again, you can toggle back and forth
[06:47] <valorie> love the super cow powers!
[06:47] <bshah> apt-get install moo
[06:47] <__dan__> i dont get any options whatsoever, as soon as i disable that toolbar, i just get the main page with the showcase and categories
[06:47] <drawkward> hehe
[06:47] <drawkward> __dan__: same here.
[06:48] <valorie> ah, you are talking about muon discover
[06:48] <valorie> ok
[06:49] <drawkward> thats interesting bshah!
[06:49] <__dan__> 14.04 gives the option to untick "show toolbar" seems to be a point of no return
[06:49] <__dan__> 15.04 doesn't have that option
[06:50] <__dan__> tbh i dont use muon
[06:51] <valorie> !info moo
[06:51] <__dan__> just found a guy on askubuntu with exactly the same problem, no replies
[06:51] <valorie> I would ask on the KDE forums rather
[06:51] <valorie> or even Kubuntuforums
[06:52] <bshah> valorie: moo is easter egg in apt-get no package..
[06:52] <valorie> ah
[06:52] <valorie> it's been so long since I played with it
[06:52] <valorie> there is a train too?
[06:53] <bshah> sl
[06:53] <__dan__> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326713
[06:54] <__dan__> clearly not fixed in KDE 4
[06:55] <drawkward> :(
[06:55] <__dan__> wait tho
[06:55] <valorie> nope, but the fix is committed
[06:57] <__dan__> open a konsole
[06:57] <__dan__> use this command:
[06:57] <__dan__> rm .kde/share/config/muon-discoverrc
[06:57] <__dan__> restart muon
[06:57] <__dan__> thank the lord not all KDE software is this stupid
[06:57] <valorie> well, someone tried to be too clever by half
[06:57] <__dan__> indeed haha
[06:57] <valorie> control+m used to work everywhere
[06:58] <valorie> bshah: sl is delightful
[06:58] <__dan__> i was never a fan of muon tbh, always seemed flakey, on many installs it has never shown all available software, just a wacky subset thereof
[06:58] <valorie> this makes me miss asquiaquarium
[06:58] <drawkward> __dan__: thanks!
[06:58] <__dan__> drawkward: anytime bud :)
[06:58] <valorie> oops, asciiaquarium
[06:59] <valorie> dan, discover is not a package manager, it's a Software Center
[06:59] <valorie> you want plain old muon
[06:59] <__dan__> potato potaahto :P
[06:59] <valorie> better than synaptic
[07:00] <__dan__> i just use aptitude tbh
[07:00] <valorie> which used to be tops
[07:00] <valorie> I use apt usually
[07:00] <valorie> but try to use the updater, etc. like our users usually do
[07:02] <__dan__> yeah i dont mind the updater so much
[07:03] <valorie> besides, it's cute
[07:03] <daniel> is it normal for KDE-GSoC mentors to be super-busy and not reply to emails?
[07:03] <valorie> if I just updated its own state, I would be perfectly happy with it
[07:03] <valorie> daniel: no
[07:04] <valorie> shall we take this to #kde-soc however?
[07:04] <valorie> !register
[07:05] <valorie> Guest37224:^^^
[07:05] <Guest37224> thanks*
[07:05] <Guest37224> thanls
[07:42] <__dan__> don't mean to speak too soon, but it looks like the lockscreen may be fixed for me
[07:44] <__dan__> (was still broken with yesterday's PPA but today's is looking hopeful)
[07:50] <soee_> __dan__: what exactyl was wrong ?
[07:55] <__dan__> soee_: it would randomly lock up 1 cpu 100% and become unresponsive
[07:57] <__dan__> while I realise it's a lock screen that's taking the job a little too seriously
[07:58] <__dan__> i have the lock screen set to activate 10 seconds after the screen blanks, and i noticed my laptop kicking up the fans shortly thereafter, at which point it wouldn't respond to my password
[07:58] <__dan__> but so far, so good :)
[08:45] <Gachr> Hi guys, I'm pretty new to KDE - how to see current actions in Dolphin?
[08:46] <krise> have anyone here replaced their android os with cyanogen os ?
[08:46] <Gachr> krise: I did.
[08:46] <krise> was it worth it ?
[08:48] <krise> im rookie with linux and android but i like to switch to gyno.I need step by step help from someone
[08:49] <Gachr> krise: It really depends on your phone.
[08:49] <krise> xperia m2
[08:49] <Gachr> I wouldn't do it on phones with good OSes, like Sony's.
[08:49] <Gachr> Oh, then it's not worth it, Sony is the best imho.
[08:50] <krise> ok
[08:50] <krise> good to know :)
[08:51] <krise> what makes it best ?
[08:51] <Gachr> It just looks very nice and runs well, I don't expect more. Of course it depends how fast it works on your phone. All the modding and stuff is fun, but not too practical.
[08:52] <krise> so far i have no problems, long time sony  user
[08:53] <krise> thanks
[08:54] <__dan__> +1 for cyanogenmod, great project
[08:55] <__dan__> Gachr: current actions in dolphin like file copies that are in progress, etc?
[08:57] <Gachr> __dan__ yes, I'm compressing lots of stuff and I have no progress bar, really annoying
[08:58] <__dan__> hmmm I'm not sure about compressing files ... move / copy usually shows progress in the notifications area
[08:59] <__dan__> yeah I don't get any progress notification for compressing files either :/
[09:01] <__dan__> if I compress using the Ark program itself, I do get an indication that it's doing something, but no kind of progress bar or ETA
[09:02] <__dan__> would be nice to have a status window like the 7-Zip GUI program on Windows (% done, bytes/sec throughput, compression ratio, ETA, etc)
[09:04] <Gachr> Alright, it finished just now.
[09:06] <Gachr> It compressed it by 200MB, wow...
[09:06] <Gachr> 28GiB
[09:06] <__dan__> lol what you compressing?
[09:06] <Gachr> __dan__: my whole archive; documents, photos and other stuff
[09:07] <__dan__> photos and videos wont compress but you should get reasonable compression with documents and config files etc
[09:08] <Gachr> Yeah, I guess that these 200MB were documents. Do you know how to get the archive into multiple pieces in Ark?
[09:08] <__dan__> i doubt you can do that, Ark is a very basic program
[09:08] <Gachr> __dan__: What would you recommend then?
[09:09] <__dan__> 7zip command line should do everything you need
[09:09] <__dan__> automatically split into volumes, and probably better compression than whatever Ark uses by default
[09:10] <Gachr> I never used it from cmd.
[09:10] <__dan__> yeah I don't often, but I see it has an option like -v10m will split into 10 meg volumes
[09:11] <__dan__> 7z a -v10m /media/somewhere/myarchive.7z /home/gachr/*
[09:11] <__dan__> i assume something like that would be a good start
[09:12] <Gachr> I just need to split it in half, it's 27.6GiB and I just need to fit it on a memory stick that's 14.7GB
[09:13] <Gachr> Thanks __dan__.
[09:13] <__dan__> if you already have the archive done in another program, there's always the linux split command
[09:15] <__dan__> yw :)
[09:32] <enfjoao> Hey guys.
[09:33] <enfjoao> How do you use kde partitionmanager to disable an automatic partition mount?
[09:34] <enfjoao> I can click the "no automatic mount" checkbox, but it does not have an "ok" or "save" box, so the changes are discarded
[09:46] <loma2015> listchans
[10:32] <brad1001> Hi
[10:48] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[10:48] <svend-ev> hejsa
[11:27] <solo_> hi all.
[11:27] <eric850> salut à tous
[11:27] <eric850> deiz mat d'an holl
[11:30] <lordievader> o/
[11:30] <lordievader> !french | eric850
[11:32] <solo_> Как настроить Notepad++ в kubuntu ?
[11:32] <lordievader> !russian | solo_
[11:33] <solo_> oh sorri
[12:50] <MichaelP> 15.04 not making it past the part of the install screen where it ask if you want to choose to install 3rd party software or download updates while installing
[12:54] <lordievader> MichaelP: Is this through the live-environment or did you click the install button right away?
[12:54] <MichaelP> lordievader: both
[12:55] <MichaelP> never mind it made it after 5 minutes
[12:55] <lordievader> Hmm... if I rember correctly the next step was disk setup. Any special disk configurations?
[12:55] <lordievader> Ah, okay ;)
[12:59] <MichaelP> lordievader: was just being slow ar reading drive partitions i guess
[13:00] <lordievader> Perhaps.
[13:00] <MichaelP> it took to long to go from prepare to disk setup
[13:06] <Guest81379> HOLA
[13:07] <lordievader> o/
[13:21] <Mekzholan> Hi, since I've updated to Kubuntu 15.04 my Firefox doesn't respect the virtual desktops any more after session restore. (I.e. all windows are created on the first virtual deskptop - but I had one on each...).
[13:21] <Mekzholan> Is that a known problem? Can I fix it somehow?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:58] <MichaelP> so far 15.04 seems pretty good. Still has the upstream bugs that been there since day 1 of kf5 krunner closing plasma closing
[15:06] <__dan__> ya I'm still getting the 100% cpu bug with the lockscreen, thought the backports PPA update today fixed it but alas not :/
[15:12] <MichaelP> I never had 100% cpu usage... and i'm AMD E1 2100 dual core 1GHZ
[15:25] <BluesKaj> MichaelP, use system monitor to find what's using up all the cpu
[15:28] <BluesKaj> MichaelP, it could be file indexing or baloo search/akonadi server if you use kmail kontact wtc
[15:28] <BluesKaj> wtc= etc
[15:33] <__dan__> BluesKaj: was me with the 100% cpu
[15:34] <__dan__> i already know what it is tho, i believe it's a known bug
[15:37] <BluesKaj> __dan__, are you on konversation? Because it had a bug
[15:38] <MichaelP> BluesKaj: don't use kmail or anything like that.... Funny how Netrunner 16 is Kubuntu 15.04 i don't have the problems with it as i have had her in the last hour... kwin closing
[15:39] <__dan__> BluesKaj: I use Konversation but not on my 15.04 machine
[15:40] <BluesKaj> MichaelP, sorry i misread the problem you mention , didn't realize you were referring to __dan__ 's cpu usage
[15:41] <MichaelP> Konversation is what im using right now.. what bug does it have ?
[15:41] <__dan__> the 100% cpu is when the screen lock is running, sometimes it will lock up and hit 100% on one core with kscreengreeter or something named similar, becomes unresponsive etc
[15:48] <BluesKaj> my problem with the 100% cpu usage was solved by upgrading to plasma 5.3
[15:51] <MichaelP> plasma 5.3 need ppa for that ?
[15:52] <yanite> ?
[15:56] <MichaelP> yep got it.. ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[15:57] <__dan__> yep thats the one :)
[15:58] <MichaelP> i been running 5.3.. arch .. KaOS.. Netrunner 16
[15:58] <MichaelP> KaOS No KDE4 in it
[16:04] <BluesKaj> MichaelP, so you're not on kubuntu?
[16:09] <MichaelP> BluesKaj: yeah 15.04... I was saying i been using plasma 5.3 in those others
[16:10] <BluesKaj> yeah MichaelP , using netrunner 16 as well here just as an experiment
[16:11] <MichaelP> BluesKaj: i like netrunner
[16:11] <BluesKaj> yes, it's a nice OS. I like it so far .
[16:14] <f10> I migrated from debian to kubuntu. I set the button size to "small" in breeze window decoration settings. It's still bigger than in debian. Any ideas why? Debian (siduction packages): http://postimg.org/image/ujglrj48h/full  Kubuntu: http://postimg.org/image/uxhxr4oc1/full/
[16:40] <BluesKaj> hmm, konverstion just crashed here, that's a new problem
[16:48] <7GHAACS5W> Hello
[16:49] <lordievader> o/
[16:50] <7GHAACS5W> after upgrade to kubuntu 15.04 i see each time my computer loads OS blue box that tells to upgrade flash
[16:50] <7GHAACS5W> notification
[16:50] <7GHAACS5W> i try to install and it always fails
[16:51] <7GHAACS5W> flash works for me for firefox and chromium-based browsers
[16:51] <7GHAACS5W> anmd i think it latest
[16:51] <ronnoc> BluesKaj: Morning
[16:52] <7GHAACS5W> how to tell os that it's ok?
[16:52] <BluesKaj> Morning ronnoc
[16:52] <7GHAACS5W> it doesn't stops show that message after upgrade
[16:52] <BluesKaj> 7GHAACS5W, lsb_release -a in the terminal
[16:53] <BluesKaj> oops sorry 7GHAACS5W , I misread
[16:53] <7GHAACS5W> No LSB modules are available.
[16:53] <7GHAACS5W> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[16:53] <7GHAACS5W> Description:    Ubuntu 15.04
[16:53] <7GHAACS5W> Release:        15.04
[16:53] <7GHAACS5W> Codename:       vivid
[16:53] <ronnoc> 7GHAACS5W: Have you tried installing kubuntu-restricted-extras and kubuntu-restricted-addons?
[16:53] <ronnoc> Also, Chrome has it's own built-in flash so if you use Chrome you always have the latest flash installed
[16:53] <7GHAACS5W> ah ok
[16:53] <7GHAACS5W> i understand
[16:56] <7GHAACS5W> <IP_ADDRESS>0 is latest for firefox
[16:56] <7GHAACS5W> and it's already installed
[16:57] <7GHAACS5W> so i need to tell somehow to stop notify me
[16:57] <7GHAACS5W> does i'm right?
[16:58] <7GHAACS5W> i think that this is not really clear to end-user
[16:59] <7GHAACS5W> i don't want to turn off notification, but OS i think need understand that i used actual version
[17:00] <7GHAACS5W> and stop to display notification for this case
[17:00] <7GHAACS5W> is it bug or my misconfiguration?
[17:02] <7GHAACS5W> ronnoc: i did insyall few days ago ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:02] <7GHAACS5W> is it not the same?
[17:02] <BluesKaj> 7GHAACS5W, I had the same notice popup for a cpouple of weeks, but after the last upgrade it stopped
[17:04] <BluesKaj> 7GHAACS5W, set the notice to hide if it annoys you
[17:04] <7GHAACS5W> my system is upgrated to last packages as it shows me
[17:06] <BluesKaj> try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in the terminal to get the latest if you haven't done so yet
[17:06] <7GHAACS5W> if i hide notice - does it will appears if something real needed will be here? for example flash will have new version
[17:06] <BluesKaj> it's already the newest version by default
[17:06] <7GHAACS5W> i have kubuntu 15.04
[17:07] <BluesKaj> yes
[17:07] <7GHAACS5W> but what reason for this notify? and why it fails if i try to install
[17:08] <BluesKaj> because it's already installed
[17:08] <BluesKaj> the notification is a bug
[17:09] <7GHAACS5W> i'm wait when linux will be easy in easy cases...like windows
[17:09] <7GHAACS5W> ah this is bug ok
[17:09] <BluesKaj> linux is more flexible than windows, you just need experience to make it easier
[17:11] <7GHAACS5W> i know - as i'm am programmer...it's cool for my own...but i'm wait when it will be more usability..one-click and resolve
[17:14] <BluesKaj> 7GHAACS5W, well there's dualboot and VMs
[17:15] <7GHAACS5W> no i want to be linux only guy..i use linux near 8 years
[17:15] <7GHAACS5W> kde-based
[17:17] <7GHAACS5W> i don't know, maybe now gnome unity is more user-friendly than kde...
[17:18] <7GHAACS5W> but when it appears for me to load windows - i see that it easy for easy things...more user-friendly
[17:20] <7GHAACS5W> i mean i feel that linux-based system can give us surprises with new bugs..
[17:20] <7GHAACS5W> at any time
[17:21] <lordievader> 7GHAACS5W: Could you pastebin the output of 'sudo apt-get -s dist-upgrade'?
[17:21] <BluesKaj> 7GHAACS5W, I doubt you will find unity easier to use than kde/plasma..Plasma 5 is in development at the moment and most apps are still running in plasma 4, so the integration and transition to plsama 5 is still ongoing
[17:21] <BluesKaj> err plasma 5
[17:23] <7GHAACS5W> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8835279
[17:23] <7GHAACS5W> it's in russian
[17:23] <7GHAACS5W> i mean terminal
[17:23] <7GHAACS5W> it's tells that all is upgrated
[17:24] <7GHAACS5W> i feel that i like plasma 5..it's much better than 4th
[17:25] <7GHAACS5W> i like controlls - they more compact
[17:29] <lordievader> Hmm, no flash stuff.
[17:30] <7GHAACS5W> yes, as i said flash plugin in firefo is latest as tells official adobe site
[17:31] <7GHAACS5W> *firefox
[18:25] <joaom> oi
[18:26] <lordievader> o/
[18:27] <joaom> anybody here?
[18:29] <lordievader> !pm | joaom
[18:29] <Unit193> /msg lordievader Did you steal my tacos again?
[18:29] <Unit193> Oops.
[20:00] <swex> hi there
[20:01] <swex> Is there anybody whos plasmashell  freezes in vivid backports?
[20:50] <austin6598> how do i install this in kubuntu: http://www.atareao.es/ubuntu/enviar-archivos-desde-ubuntu-a-android-con-pushbullet/#more-9292
[20:51] <austin6598> translate to english
[20:53] <lordievader> austin6598: Nautilus is used in Unity/Gnome, not in KDE. We have Dolphin.
[20:55] <austin6598>  lordievader will this package work if i install it
[20:55] <austin6598> it also says nemo
[20:55] <lordievader> Well, you can use Nautilus within KDE. But it probably won't integrate well with the rest of the desktop.
[20:56] <lordievader> For Nemo, I have no idea what it is.
[20:56] <lordievader> !info nemo
[20:57] <lordievader> Hmm... Well we have Dolphin ;)
[20:57] <austin6598> when i try to install the repo it says it doesnt know the command
[20:58] <austin6598> im guessing there is another command besides add apt
[20:58] <lordievader> austin6598: Now I understand the blog post you linked to. It shows how to install the pushbullet thingie, whatever that is, to Nuatilus or Nemo.
[20:59] <lordievader> austin6598: You might want to checkout http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/pushbullet-indicator-send-files-links.html
[20:59] <lordievader> austin6598: Or https://github.com/dpanda/pushbullet-kde-servicemenu
[21:00] <austin6598> !info Atareao
[21:01] <austin6598> would it be best to install from a repo so it updates automatically?
[21:02] <lordievader> Usually yes, however the repo doesn't have everything.
[21:02] <austin6598> which is the best one to install?
[21:03] <lordievader> austin6598: Of what?
[21:04] <austin6598> pushbullet
[21:04] <austin6598> i need it for dolphin kde
[21:05] <austin6598> i just need the best one but idk which one to use
[21:06] <lordievader> A quick google search led to the results I posted earlier. I have no idea what is the best. Try for yourself ;)
[21:07] <austin6598> is dolphin specific to kde?
[21:08] <lordievader> Err, it can be used under other DE's too. But it has strong ties with KDE.
[21:08] <austin6598> im trying the repo one
[21:12] <austin6598> it installed but i dont see it
[21:16] <austin6598> i did this:
[21:16] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/KwRo7Odu/
[21:17] <austin6598> how do i uninstall pushbullet-indicator, i think i did this wrong
[21:17] <valorie> what was the output of that command, austin6598?
[21:18] <lordievader> austin6598: Nothing went wrong with installing. Did you launch the indicator?
[21:18] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin
[21:19] <austin6598> i dont see the indicator anywhere, i searched my programs
[21:21] <lordievader> austin6598: Perhaps in a terminal 'pushbullet-indicator'?
[21:26] <tessarakt> Hi!
[21:26] <tessarakt> When will Kubuntu upgrade to KDE Frameworks 5.10?
[21:29] <austin6598> pushbullet-indicator: command not found
[21:29] <austin6598> austin@Austin-Desktop:~$
[21:33] <austin6598> what is the password for this:
[21:33] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/D8lGrVut/
[21:35] <lordievader> austin6598: There is no root password in Ubuntu. Why do you require a root login?
[21:35] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/RAPmFKRq/
[21:36] <lordievader> austin6598: Use sudo for that. No need for a full on root login.
[21:37] <austin6598> what is the difference between them
[21:37] <austin6598> ok it worked
[21:38] <lordievader> austin6598: su is switch user. Without an argument root is assumed. sudo gives you root rights temporarily.
[21:38] <austin6598> what is the root password?
[21:39] <austin6598> do i type sudo "my user password"
[21:39] <Gamayun> austin6598: There isn't any. You can do 'sudo su' if you're crazy enough :P (or set a root password)
[21:40] <tessarakt> hm, is there no "Kubuntu Updates" ppa for 15.04?
[21:40] <tessarakt> wxl: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[21:41] <tessarakt> sorry, wxl, did not mean to highlight you
[21:42] <austin6598> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/oIr9afUC/
[21:42] <austin6598> why cant i use it?
[21:43] <lordievader> tessarakt: There is the backports ppa.
[21:43] <lordievader> austin6598: Yes with sudo you use your user password.
[21:44] <austin6598> no i mean the pushbullet program, i cant use it
[21:44] <austin6598> i dont see it anywhere
[21:48] <Gamayun> austin6598: It's an indicator for Unity as far as I can see... So won't show up on Plasma/Kubuntu.
[21:48] <Gamayun> If it's android you're wanting to use it with, I'd go for KDE Connect ;)
[21:49] <austin6598> no iphone, also have the program on other pc's
[21:50] <austin6598> how can i remove this now, and its repo
[21:51] <Gamayun> dunno then
[21:51] <Gamayun> austin6598: sudo apt-get remove
[21:53] <Gamayun> and apt-add-repository --remove
[21:53] <Gamayun> or through the gui
[21:53] <austin6598> apt-add-repository --remove ppa:atareao/atareao
[21:53] <austin6598> in muon discover there is a sources tab but i cant remove them
[21:56] <austin6598> ok i did it in konsole
[23:00] <metRo_> Hi all :)
[23:01] <metRo_> I just upgrade my kubuntu
[23:01] <metRo_> and I can't connect to newer wifi networks
[23:01] <metRo_> because kwallet freeze
[23:01] <metRo_> I read that kwaller doesn't work on KDE 5
[23:02] <metRo_> so how should I connect to newer wifi networks?
[23:13] <jose__> Hola Buenas tardes
[23:31] <Hacker_TO> Hi where can I find a sample systemd script for postgresql
[23:35] <valorie> hmmm, dunno, but it doesn't really sound like kubuntu support
[23:35] <valorie> Hacker_TO: you might have better luck in #ubuntu
[23:36] <valorie> or #postgresql
[23:36] <Hacker_TO> thanks asking there!


[04:19] <pitti> Good morning
[04:22] <darkxst> pitti, hey
[04:22] <pitti> hey darkxst
[04:22] <darkxst> pitti, do you know if there are really still cases where plymouth can get stuck with a 16color framebuffer?
[04:23] <pitti> darkxst: I don't know (I've never worked on plymouth/graphical boot), but it seems unlikely
[04:24] <pitti> with KMS it of course doesn't happen, with fbdev it shouldn't either, and the next fallback is plain text mode
[04:24] <darkxst> pitti, right, and pretty much everything on intel platforms is using KMS these days?
[04:25] <pitti> I don't know about the proprietary nvidia/amd drivers
[04:25] <pitti> nvidia had used plaintext boot for a long time, not sure if that's still the case
[04:25] <darkxst> nvidia have KMS, but its not the standard one, think they are porting over to that though
[04:26] <pitti> oh, they do? I thought KMS was GPL-only, so you can't legally have a KMS-capable proprietary driver
[04:26] <pitti> but maybe that changed now
[04:26] <darkxst> I think they blacklisted the graphical plymouth, because it causing problems with their framebuffer
[04:27] <darkxst> pitti, they are doing a big restructure of their kernel side to support wayland etc
[04:27] <pitti> or that; but then you also wouldn't run into a graphical 16 color fb
[04:27] <darkxst> yeh exactly that is just text
[04:27] <pitti> or are you talking about the classical text mode?
[04:27] <pitti> that happens all the time, and must be supported
[04:27] <darkxst> no the ubuntu theme, has fallback to 16color
[04:28] <darkxst> (graphical)
[04:28] <darkxst> but that is a pain for what we want to do since there is no alpha channel then
[04:29] <darkxst> and I guess worst case is they won't see the animation if it really happens, other things like passwords etc are all the same as per ubuntu theme
[04:40] <darkxst> pitti, btw I think nividia are going to register their own KMS service that than emulates the GPL-only API's from within their driver
[04:41] <pitti> heh -- kernel license wars :)
[04:44] <darkxst> indeed
[04:47] <darkxst> and nothing ever happens to the companies that just blatantly abuse GPL code
[04:48] <pitti> aside from being shown the finger, but they can surely live with that :)
[04:49] <darkxst> there are far worse companies out there than nvidia!
[05:36] <didrocks> good morning
[05:42] <pitti> bonjour didrocks, ça va ?
[05:49] <didrocks> ça va bien pitti, et toi ?
[07:52] <larsu> seb128, morning!
[07:52]  * larsu didn't see you come in
[07:52] <seb128> good morning desktopers!
[07:52] <seb128> hey larsu, how are you?
[07:52] <larsu> seb128, great thanks! convincing quilt to take changes to my patch
[07:52] <larsu> how are you?
[07:52] <didrocks> good morning seb128
[07:53] <seb128> quilt refresh!
[07:53] <larsu> ya...
[07:53] <seb128> I'm good thanks ;-)
[07:53] <seb128> hey didrocks
[07:53] <larsu> but quilt add, too
[07:53] <larsu> seb128, we miss you in that certain other channel
[07:57] <pitti> hey seb128!
[07:57] <pitti> hello larsu
[07:57] <seb128> hey pitti
[07:57] <larsu> "morning" pitti
[07:57] <seb128> larsu, oh, right, removed that from my list yesterday and I'm not really looking at IRC yet today ;-)
[07:57] <pitti> larsu: yeah, almost lunchtime :)
[07:58] <larsu> hehe
[07:58] <larsu> seb128, no worries :)
[07:58] <larsu> fyi: I'm off this afternoon
[07:58] <pitti> seb128: did you notice that the new bluetooth indicator regressed again? if you disable bluetooth it disappears entirely instead of graying out
[07:58] <pitti> didn't we fix this like three times already?
[07:58] <larsu> isn't that by design?
[07:59] <seb128> larsu, oh? have fun!
[07:59] <didrocks> pitti: you meant *run*time
[07:59] <larsu> seb128, helping a friend move to Hamburg :)
[07:59] <pitti> didrocks: cą aussi !
[08:00] <larsu> ah, pitti is right, it should be insensitive instead of disappearing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth#PC
[08:01] <pitti> that's how it worked with bluez4
[08:01] <larsu> it should only disappear when the computer doesn't have bluetooth
[08:01] <pitti> I think with bluez5 it went away entirely, and the new version from yesterday didn't fix that yet
[08:01] <pitti> although it should really only look at rfkill, not at bluez
[08:01] <pitti> this bug keeps coming back :(
[08:01] <pitti> (we do have a mock for rfkill, just saying..)
[08:01] <seb128> larsu, hope it's not raining ;-)
[08:02] <larsu> thanks. looks fine so far
[08:02] <larsu> very sunny
[08:02] <larsu> pitti, maybe it can't differentiate between "bluetooth is off" and "no bluetooth hw available"
[08:02] <seb128> pitti, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth#Indicator_and_menu states
[08:02] <seb128> "When Bluetooth is off, to save space the Bluetooth indicator should not be present at all. "
[08:03] <seb128> talk to mpt about it I guess?
[08:03] <larsu> seb128, this is on the phone, though
[08:03] <seb128> larsu, convergence? ;-)
[08:03] <larsu> seb128, yes, I agree, but the spec says otherwise for the desktop
[08:03] <pitti> larsu: sure it can; check rfkill list, you'll have a soft blocked bluetooth device
[08:03] <pitti> that's how it was fixed previously
[08:03] <larsu> pitti, just thinking out loud :)
[08:03] <Laney> hai
[08:04] <larsu> L.a.n.e.y!
[08:04] <pitti> it's really wrong for a desktop to disappear -- you have no (obvious) way to reenable it
[08:04] <seb128> hey Laney
[08:04] <pitti> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:04] <larsu> pitti, same on the phone, no?
[08:04] <seb128> pitti, did that fix you mention ever landed?
[08:04] <seb128> I though we had issues when robert_ancell previously tried to do that
[08:04] <pitti> seb128: sure, it has worked fine since vivid
[08:04] <larsu> pitti, I tend to agree though - and we have more than enough space in the menu bar
[08:04] <Laney> GREAT!
[08:04] <pitti> bug 1126108
[08:04] <Laney> yeah this worked before
[08:05] <seb128> pitti, k, dunno then, patches are welcome ;-) that indicator is basically on low maintainance, I doubt anyone is actively looking at it
[08:05]  * larsu slowly walks away
[08:05] <didrocks> good morning Laney
[08:06] <larsu> Laney, how was climbing?
[08:06] <Laney> good try
[08:06] <Laney> but incorrect
[08:06] <Laney> tuesday -> pub quiz
[08:06] <larsu> hm?
[08:06] <larsu> ah. damn. sorry :)
[08:06] <larsu> how was the pub quiz?
[08:09] <willcooke> didrocks, am trying to move that meeting now
[08:11] <didrocks> willcooke: thanks!
[08:11] <larsu> morning willcooke
[08:11] <willcooke> hey larsu
[08:11] <larsu> how's the sprint?
[08:16] <Laney> larsu: we came (joint) second, but 4(!!!) points behind the winners
[08:16] <Laney> was fun
[08:16] <larsu> Laney, the correct German term for this is "ärgerlich"
[08:17] <larsu> (there's no good english translation)
[08:19] <Laney> I know es ärgert mich
[08:19] <larsu> yeah that works as well but sounds a bit stronger to me
[08:20] <Laney> well I don't know the difference
[08:20] <Laney> but I know what my one means :P
[08:20] <Laney> does it mean "I really hope they weren't using their mobile phones"? :)
[08:20] <larsu> hahaha
[08:21] <larsu> it's the adjective to "ärgern"
[08:21] <larsu> so in theory it's very similar
[08:21] <larsu> but it's used with weaker meaning
[08:42] <larsu> I love bug #401692
[08:42] <larsu> we've carried a patch since '09 for this...
[08:43] <seb128> :-)
[08:43] <seb128> we can drop the patch now?
[08:43] <larsu> no!
[08:43] <seb128> so "we carry ..."
[08:43] <larsu> the upstream bug even has comments from this year
[08:43] <larsu> seb128, true :)
[08:43]  * larsu makes them a proper patch and comments
[08:43] <seb128> well at least it's an easy to maintain change
[08:43] <larsu> it's also stupid
[08:43] <larsu> but yeah...
[08:44] <larsu> easily applied
[08:44] <seb128> right
[08:44] <seb128> still woth it imho, it's confusing that your saved documented are name unsaved document by default
[08:44] <larsu> yes of course!
[08:45] <larsu> unsaved is so stupid that I don't even begin to understand how they didn't change it upstream yet
[08:45]  * larsu goes all mpt on them and makes a list of apps and their default file names
[08:46] <seb128> lol
[08:46] <robert_ancell> larsu, Simple Scan is "Scanned Document"
[08:46] <larsu> robert_ancell, thanks!
[09:01] <didrocks> tjaalton: hey, is there any way to ensure that UXA is chosen as the AccelMethod before I report the new crash?
[09:01] <didrocks> (intel driver regular crash)
[09:06] <tjaalton> didrocks: check x log
[09:09] <didrocks> tjaalton: ok, seems I'm still using SNA then
[09:10]  * didrocks changes capital letter and wait for next crash to check logs
[09:11] <didrocks> hum, seems that even setting it in non capital letter doesn't work for some users: http://askubuntu.com/questions/638231/how-can-i-switch-graphic-card-acceleration-from-sna-to-uxa
[09:11] <didrocks> tjaalton: any idea what's wrong with the syntax? ^
[09:13] <tjaalton> is it all quoted?
[09:13] <tjaalton> the very beginning and end
[09:15] <didrocks> tjaalton: ah yeah, this user sounded to have it wrong
[09:15] <didrocks> anyway, let's see after my next crash, will keep you posted :)
[09:15] <didrocks> (seems like the bug started to be popular btw)
[09:15] <tjaalton> do you use chromium?
[09:15] <TheMuso> query willcooke
[09:16] <TheMuso> Wquery willcooke Whoops. :)
[09:16] <willcooke> TheMuso, :)
[09:16] <Laney> doh
[09:18] <didrocks> tjaalton: chrome, indeed
[09:18] <didrocks> that's how I saw that pattern
[09:20] <tjaalton> guess something changed in chromium then that triggers this
[09:20] <tjaalton> since the driver stack didn't
[09:21] <tjaalton> and vivid got the same update
[09:31]  * larsu yells at quilt
[09:31] <larsu> (and remembers `exit 0` from now on)
[09:34] <didrocks> larsu: classical :p
[09:34] <larsu> it could at least ask!
[09:34] <didrocks> quilt refresh first ;)
[09:34] <didrocks> (and it's bzr bd-do)
[09:34] <larsu> ya, indeed
[09:34] <didrocks> but if you don't run bzr bd-do first now
[09:34] <didrocks> you can still access it
[09:34] <didrocks> in ../build-area/package-name_version
[09:34] <larsu> I really yelled at that workflow. sorry quilt!
[09:35] <didrocks> then quilt refresh
[09:35] <didrocks> cp your patch
[09:35] <larsu> didrocks, ah, right
[09:36] <tjaalton> didrocks: I'll build -intel from current master with debug symbols on
[09:36] <tjaalton> it looks like https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91658
[09:37] <didrocks> tjaalton: interesting, that can be, however, I definitively got many crashes when I wasn't watching a video
[09:51] <larsu> oh wow, we have ubunut.com!
[09:51] <larsu> just typoed that and wondered why it worked :)
[10:32] <pitti> didrocks: *maintenant* c'est l'heure de courier :)
[10:36] <didrocks> pitti: héhé, pareil ici (bientôt)
[10:39] <seb128> pitti, bon sport ;-)*
[10:39] <seb128> didrocks, toi aussi :-)
[10:39] <pitti> merci !
[10:40] <seb128> pitti, tu ne manges pas à midi ?
[10:40] <pitti> I think I tamed the ppc64el workers enough, /me releases the autopkgtest flood upon them and runs away to evade the splinters :)
[10:40] <pitti> seb128: pas encore, après le courier
[10:40] <seb128> k
[10:40] <seb128> enjoy!
[10:41] <larsu> Laney, (and maybe seb128), I've got a first gedit 3.16 branch up if you're interested: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/gedit/update-316
[10:42] <larsu> it's missing a few bits and it has a headerbar
[10:42] <seb128> larsu, good, I'm running the gnome3 ppa version since yesterday
[10:42] <seb128> let me try yours
[10:42] <larsu> most importantly the menubar patch
[10:42] <seb128> I was close from reverting to 3.8
[10:42] <seb128> I'm not getting used to the new ui when maximized :-(
[10:42] <larsu> menubar patch is definitely coming (but won't have time today, have to leave)
[10:43] <seb128> the titlebar showing under the panel and the double decorations are really annoying :-/
[10:43] <larsu> seb128, headerbar is not yet decided. I'll add a patch if we don't
[10:43] <larsu> seb128, yeah... I have the same issue. We could theme it differently when maximizefd
[10:43] <didrocks> seb128: merci ;)
[10:43] <Laney> we can't do this headerbar stuff for 15.10 surely
[10:43] <larsu> seb128, but I've got to run now. See you all tomorrow!
[10:44] <Laney> bye!
[10:44] <seb128> larsu, good luck with the moving ;-)
[10:44] <didrocks> see you larsu!
[10:44] <larsu> thanks :)
[10:44] <didrocks> don't break anything while moving and don't break anything on you as well :)
[10:45]  * larsu tries
[11:08] <popey> didrocks: http://blogs.unity3d.com/2015/08/26/unity-comes-to-linux-experimental-build-now-available/
[11:13] <didrocks> popey: waow, excellent!
[11:13]  * didrocks can't wait for this day to happen
[11:13] <didrocks> (when it's more marked as stable)
[11:13] <didrocks> I'll have a try though :)
[11:17] <seb128> tseliot, Laney, can you merge&clean silo9 (usd)?
[11:18] <seb128> it's in proposed but there is a checkbox to say to ignore that it didn't migrate
[11:18] <seb128> there are no silo available atm, that seems an obvious one we could claim back
[11:18] <Laney> Are you in there? do it
[11:18] <Laney> I didn't publish it
[11:19] <seb128> k
[11:19] <Laney> otherwise I've got to go get the yubikey :P
[11:19] <seb128> did it
[11:19] <seb128> thanks
[11:19] <Laney> ta
[11:21] <Laney> brb, dell man is here
[11:52] <Laney> i haz speakers
[12:13] <Laney> is g_bus_unown_name supposed to call the name_lost callback?
[13:40] <willcooke> Trevinho, hey!  Going through old bugs....
[13:40] <willcooke> uhhh ohhhhh
[13:40] <willcooke> :)
[13:40] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/798445
[13:41] <Trevinho> _o
[13:41] <willcooke> Just had a v. quick chat with JohnLea
[13:41] <Trevinho> :o
[13:41] <willcooke> Just to let you know, I've put it on the list for consideration
[13:41] <willcooke> if you have any good ideas, let me know
[13:41] <Trevinho> yeah, that's actually something I noticed as well
[13:42] <willcooke> JohnLea said pretty much the only option is to put it in to the right-click screen
[13:42] <willcooke> preview I guess it's called :)
[13:42] <Trevinho> mh, yeah I was thinking exactly the same
[13:42] <Trevinho> yes preview
[13:42] <Trevinho> but... Well, having a quick look is also soemthing that can help
[13:42] <willcooke> but anyway, just ponder it at your leisure, if you think of anything cool, let me know
[13:42] <Trevinho> maybe... Something on mouse hover such as showing a collapsed path
[13:43] <willcooke> we spoke about that, adding a whole new thing in hover seems like a bad idea, but I think it's a better solution than having to click
[13:43] <willcooke> so, dunnno
[13:43] <Trevinho> but indeed preview should state it
[13:43] <willcooke> oki, well - it's on the list :)
[13:44] <Trevinho> No I didn't want things such as pop-ups, but something like that the name changes once you're hovering for a certain amount of time
[13:44] <willcooke> ohh, nice
[13:44] <willcooke> hover over it and the full path could scroll by?
[13:44] <willcooke> in place of the name
[13:44] <Trevinho> something like that
[13:44] <willcooke> iiiinnnnnteresting
[13:47] <Trevinho> what was the tag name?
[13:47] <Trevinho> ah ok I see it
[13:48] <Trevinho> willcooke: also a way to go trough the approved backlog, just browse bugs in the ayatana-design side. Some were commited and still there :)
[13:49] <willcooke> thanks Trevinho
[13:49] <Trevinho> willcooke: I had collected these http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12199413/
[13:50] <Trevinho> (and others, but need to do the tagging properly)
[13:51]  * willcooke reviews
[13:51] <willcooke> thanks
[14:23] <willcooke> anyone having issues with LP?  I keep getting timeouts trying to comment on bugs, and for once I don't think it's related to wifi
[14:23] <qengho> I got some new Http 500 page yesterday.
[14:24] <qengho> Mine was too quick to be a normal timeout, though.
[14:24] <qengho> Er, maybe it was a "down for upgrade" page, now that I think about it.
[14:25] <willcooke> meh, now it works
[14:25]  * willcooke blames wifi again
[14:27] <seb128> works for me
[14:53] <degorenko> hello here! Is here anyone around, who can help me? I want to fix this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sahara/+bug/1452698 I found this instruction: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/fixing-a-bug.html is it correct?
[14:55] <seb128> degorenko, hey, try #ubuntu for user issues
[14:55] <degorenko> seb128, ok, thanks
[15:06] <mitya57> Actually that doesn't sound like an user issue
[15:07] <mitya57> degorenko, ping coreycb or jamespage on #ubuntu-devel, they touched it last
[15:09] <degorenko> mitya57, ok, will do :)
[16:39] <willcooke> going to check in to the hotel
[16:46] <Trevinho> seb128: I've made this (so I can apply the same to dash as well): https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/osd-scrollbars-improvements/+merge/269245
[16:46] <Trevinho> do you prefer I wait larsu for checking that?
[16:46] <seb128> Trevinho, yes, I need to go now, we have a sprint dinner tonight and meeting is in 30 min
[16:47] <Trevinho> seb128: oh, right... I forgot you were in london :)
[16:47] <seb128> indeed
[16:47] <seb128> your video looks good :-)
[16:48] <Trevinho> seb128: I've also this https://transfer.sh/YLymC/out-19.ogv but it needs gtk patching (small theming thing)
[16:48] <Trevinho> and probably some transitions, which - for some reason -doesn't work
[16:49]  * Trevinho also wonders why all the theming stuff inside gtkscrolledwindow is hardcoded :o
[17:10] <Laney> bye!


[00:09]  * RaptorJesus exposes himself to the channel and slaps everyone in the face.
[00:29] <Patrickdk> sarnold, gave up on attempting to attach the profile to a shell
[00:30] <Patrickdk> I just added aa_change_profile, that worked good
[00:30] <Patrickdk> cause currently, I don't launch a shell for these users
[00:44] <sarnold> Patrickdk: cool! :)
[00:44] <sarnold> Patrickdk: yeah, if they don't already use a shell, trying to make that fit would be annoying.
[00:50] <Patrickdk> heh, just some stupid issues
[00:50] <Patrickdk> can't get a standardized base config
[00:51] <Patrickdk> even including all the base stuff, users still can't do stuff like run sendmail
[02:13] <Valduare> hi guys
[02:13] <Valduare> i need help with autossh
[02:14] <Valduare> i need to setup a reverse tunnel from one server to another server
[02:14] <Valduare> having troubles figuring this autossh out
[03:05] <phunyguy> anyone alive in here?  Wondering if, short of backing up my data and doing a complete format of this mdadm array, I can convert from RAID5 to RAID6 provided I have the free space remaining to account for the decrease in size of the array...
[08:49] <zetheroo> On a system which we do not want to shutdown, what would be the simplest way to backup the root disk? Would an rsync of / be sufficiant?
[10:35] <timmytimtimo> where can i get Virtinst to install on my Ubuntu server 12.04.3?
[10:43] <RoyK> timmytimtimo: I'd start with an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade to get it up to 14.04.4 ;)
[10:45] <RoyK> timmytimtimo: after that, just apt-get install virtinst
[10:47] <timmytimtimo> it show error: E:unable to locate package virtinst
[10:49] <RoyK> timmytimtimo: update first
[10:49] <RoyK> and please upgrade - 14.04.3 isn't very new
[10:49] <RoyK> erm
[10:49] <RoyK> 12.04.3
[10:51] <RoyK> timmytimtimo: I have the package installed on 12.04.4
[10:52] <timmytimtimo> RoyK lets do private chat please
[11:04] <BoozeWooz> I've set-up a webserver using ubuntu 12.04 LTS server edition, and everything runs fine (apache etc), except, sometimes the DNS lookup will redirect to the old webhost ?! http://network-tools.com/default.asp?prog=dnsrec&host=www.tsbvchikara.nl
[11:49] <timmytimtimo> ?
[11:49] <timmytimtimo> how can i install ethtool on my ubuntu server 12.04.3
[11:53] <RoyK> timmytimtimo: most tools can be installed with apt-get. google it. and don't PM people for support
[11:53] <timmytimtimo> okay
[11:53] <timmytimtimo> thanks
[12:08] <hxm> someone had the problem to run dropboxd downloaded from dropbox.com and it does nothing? no error message no success
[12:10] <hxm> ah, found it
[13:39] <zul> jamespage: ping when you are around
[13:52] <jamespage> zul, pong I;m back
[13:53] <zul> jamespage:  so cinder bumped oslo.mesaging to a9 which is fine...however a9 has a new dependency on oslotest which isnt in the archive
[13:54] <zul> there is two ways i see this being fixed:
[13:54]  * jamespage listens
[13:54] <zul> (1) package oslotest
[13:54] <zul> (2) copy over oslotest into oslo.messaging and drop the patch after oslotest is in the archive
[13:55] <zul> (3) sync it from experimental and write the MIR
[13:55] <zul> it being python-oslotest
[13:57] <zul> jamespage:  thoughts?
[13:58] <jamespage> zul, I'd do 3)
[13:58] <jamespage> on the assumption we can get a friendly MIR team member to review for use
[13:58] <jamespage> us
[13:58] <zul> jamespage:  yeah
[14:19] <ttx> MIR team member. Now that's a bit confusing
[14:23] <zul> ttx: how is it confusing?
[14:23] <ttx> Mir or MIR ?
[14:23] <zul> ttx: meh :)
[14:49] <rbasak> ttx: well, I'm case sensitive :)
[15:11] <zul> jamespage:  im seeing some weirdness in the charms http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7157174/
[15:12] <jamespage> zul, oh - that will happen before the amqp relation forms
[15:12] <jamespage> it should sort itself out
[15:12] <zul> jamespage:  ok
[15:17] <hallyn> jdstrand: so far I've still not reproduced actual fs corruption with qcow2.  I do see that it is insanely slow - though this is qcow2 on btrfs on lvm, which may be the reason.  but it happens irregardless of snapshot activity
[15:19] <hallyn> i.e. unpacking ncurses-term always takes forever
[15:22] <jdstrand> hallyn: I have seen your pleas for me to give more feedback. I unfortunately have been using my VMs heavily lately. I will respond soon-- it is high on my priority list
[15:22] <jdstrand> sorry for not responding sooner
[15:24] <hallyn> jdstrand: heh, ok, thanks.  np.  I just dont' want to be impacting *your* workflow iwth qcow2 not working.
[15:24] <hallyn> ttyl
[15:24] <jdstrand> I'm using the saucy qemu for now
[15:25] <jdstrand> but I'm quite worried when people install the LTS
[15:25] <jdstrand> (and openstack, etc, etc)
[15:35] <semiosis> jdstrand, marcoceppi, jamespage: any update on the glusterfs MIR?
[15:37] <semiosis> sarnold: ^^
[15:41] <jdstrand> semiosis: sarnold is going through the list. I think he had 4 MIRs to review. 2 are done. it is coming
[15:41] <semiosis> jdstrand: thx.  is it even possible this will get into trusty at this point?
[15:42] <semiosis> jdstrand: and thus support for gluster in qemu
[15:42]  * semiosis is not optimistic
[15:43] <jdstrand> I think it depends on the outcome of the review
[15:43]  * jdstrand is not on the release team
[15:44] <semiosis> ok cool, then there is still hope, maybe :)
[15:48] <jdstrand> I think there is hope
[16:46] <hallyn> mdeslaur: did you have any plans regarding virt-manager in trusty?  i.e. last-minute update to 1.0.1? :)
[16:49] <mdeslaur> hallyn: nope. There are a zillion new dependencies in universe that would require a MIR before 1.0.x can go in
[16:51] <mdeslaur> hallyn: I did rebase all our patches though, I could perhaps stick it in a ppa if someone wants it
[16:52] <hallyn> mdeslaur: thanks - was mainly wondering about some of the open bugs whether it was worth backporting patches.
[16:52] <hallyn> i don't personally care for ppa and haven't seen anyone ask for one.  thanks though.
[17:29] <Kully> How do I link a directory? i.e. I want /var/www/ to not actuall contain anything and store all the files that would normally be in there in /vol/var/www/
[17:51] <med_> Kully, you can do a bindmount if you want.
[17:52] <med_> e.g., sudo mount --bind /mnt/Files/Music /home/user/Music
[17:52] <med_> so sudo mount --bind /vol/var/www /var/www
[17:53] <med_> ref: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[17:54] <med_> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/mount.8.html
[18:01] <coreycb> jamespage, can you review please?  https://code.launchpad.net/~corey.bryant/ubuntu/trusty/python-boto/jenkins-2014-02-26/+merge/212722
[18:02]  * Corey eyes coreycb
[18:03] <coreycb> Corey, nice name :)
[18:03] <Corey> Likewise. Congratulations on spelling it properly!
[18:03] <Kully> med_ thanks for that; that's what I'm looking for.
[18:04] <Corey> coreycb: I've moved away from boto and started using libcloud instead, so I'm a bit rusty on the boto side of the world, but that test *looks* sane on first glance.
[18:05] <coreycb> Corey, ah thanks, you didn't have to review
[18:05] <Corey> Eh, I've been slacking on my contributions lately. :-)
[18:05] <coreycb> Corey, heh.  we corey's have to stick together
[18:07] <Corey> Oh, I know who you are now!
[18:07] <jamespage> coreycb, some comments
[18:07] <Corey> Congrats on the new job.
[18:07] <zul> coreycb: can i suggest koreycb :)
[18:13] <coreycb> zul, ha
[18:14] <coreycb> ok Corey and I have chatted, we know each other now
[18:14] <Corey> *snerk*
[18:15] <Corey> And yeah, I missed the /home/ubuntu; I was focusing on the date math portion of coreycb's test.
[18:17] <jamespage> matsubara, hey - could you pickup the maas tests for beta 2?
[18:43] <matsubara> jamespage, is that the ISO tests? yes, once I'm done with the upgrade tests I can do that.
[18:48] <jamespage> matsubara, yes please
[18:49] <beisner> jamespage,matsubara - fyi I've been putting some cycles into the iso tests @ qa tracker
[18:51] <coreycb> jamespage, updated per your comments - https://code.launchpad.net/~corey.bryant/ubuntu/trusty/python-boto/jenkins-2014-02-26/+merge/212722
[18:56] <adam_g> jamespage, zul heads up -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82154/  this will probably break your builds but it looks like neutronclient was SRU'd to include the fix that required the bump to 2.3.4, so it should be safe to patch out
[18:57] <zul> adam_g:  gah..
[18:57] <adam_g> zul, welcome to openstack stable updates :)
[18:57] <zul> adam_g:  bah
[19:02] <Kully> do bridged directories store files in both locations? doesn't seem to show a symblink or anything when listing
[19:11] <bekks> What are bridged directories?
[19:53] <jamespage> beisner, +1
[19:53] <jamespage> thanks
[20:43] <rostam> HI I am using 12.04 LTS where can i find the bugs related to libssl package for LTS release? thx
[20:43] <ndee> I'm running a server with around 3-5 web devs accessing it, does anyone know a good user managment scheme to use for such a case? They work on a public_www directory and sometimes, they have to edit files which also have to be editable by the www-data user. So just put them into the www-data group?
[20:53] <TJ-> ndee: DVCS and some kind of CI tool (e.g. git + jenkins) ?
[21:23] <rostam> HI is pysnmp supported on debian?
[23:17] <adam_g> jamespage, am i still allowed to upload to cloud-archive staging PPAs? i still have access to. was hoping to get the newest trusty libvirt pushed
[23:21] <zul> adam_g:  what do you need push?
[23:22] <adam_g> zul, libvirt 1.2.2-0ubuntu6  -staging is still at ubuntu4
[23:22] <adam_g> (icehouse)
[23:22] <zul> adam_g:  okies gimme a bit..i need to fix it up
[23:41] <zul> adam_g:  just doing a test build before uploadeing
[23:43] <adam_g> zul, \o/ aweome thanks so much
[23:50] <zul> adam_g: done
[23:52] <adam_g> zul, thanks again


[07:17] <didrocks> good morning
[07:22] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[07:24] <didrocks> hey duflu
[07:25] <duflu> didrocks, hey in bionic I don't get any circle next to the clock showing there are pending notifications. Have you seen that bug?
[07:30] <duflu> Found it. bug 1559491
[07:35] <didrocks> duflu: I haven't, but I didn't run bionic for a long time
[07:36] <didrocks> duflu: they are 2 kinds of notifications though, IIRC, those showing a dot, those which didn't (remembering Allan talking about it)
[07:37] <duflu> Well, the notifications are hiding in there next to the calendar. I assume if that's true the the dot should be visible to tell you they are hiding there
[07:37] <duflu> Also weird: My 1000Hz mouse now works properly in disco despite the systemd fix for it not being in disco
[07:38] <duflu> Maybe the kernel has improved
[08:50] <willcooke> g'morning
[08:52] <duflu> Morning willcooke (cricket sounds follow)
[08:52] <willcooke> how goes duflu?
[08:52] <duflu> willcooke, goes well. Just about back up to full speed again post holidays
[08:52] <duflu> You willcooke?
[08:53] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[08:53] <willcooke> Likewise, feel like I'm getting caught up
[08:53] <willcooke> morning didrocks
[08:53] <willcooke> Hopefully we can start on the interviews next week \o/
[08:54] <willcooke> Anyone (other than j_ibel) using Ubiquity hardware for internet?
[08:55] <jibel> I think it's spelt ubiquiti
[08:56] <jibel> with a I at the end unlike the ubuntu installer
[08:56] <willcooke> oh right
[08:56] <jibel> it can be confusing on this channel
[08:56] <willcooke> ha
[09:00] <Laney> yo
[09:01] <didrocks> I don't, but plan the future after moving ;)
[09:01] <willcooke> hi Laney
[09:01] <didrocks> hey Laney
[09:01] <willcooke> didrocks, :))  It's about the same price as a raspberry pi but seems to do everything I need with zero effort on my part
[09:01] <duflu> o/   Laney
[09:02] <Laney> hey willcooke didrocks duflu, how's it going?
[09:02] <Laney> yeah I have unifi / ubiquiti / edgeos stuff
[09:02] <Laney> their product lines are confusing as hell
[09:02] <didrocks> willcooke: yeah, I guess it will be handy ;)
[09:03] <didrocks> Laney: right
[09:04] <didrocks> willcooke: which one are you looking to? Most of them are quite pricy no?
[09:08] <willcooke> didrocks, edge router
[09:08] <willcooke> perhaps edge router x
[09:09] <willcooke> https://store.ubnt.com/products/edgerouter-x
[09:09] <didrocks> grrr, archive inconsistency made s390x tests failing for ubuntu-make, rerunning (the other archs are ok now)
[09:09] <didrocks> willcooke: ah, but no wifi expansion
[09:10] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[09:10] <willcooke> Their business model is interesting.  I am assuming that they are pretty much "giving away" these soho spec routers so that nerds buy them, and then they will get a grass roots following.
[09:10] <didrocks> I will have Gb plugs in every room, so not my need ;)
[09:10] <willcooke> didrocks, yeah I think I would add that later
[09:10] <didrocks> willcooke: yeah
[09:10] <didrocks> morning seb128
[09:10] <willcooke> I have cat5 in most places now, and good enough wifi everywhere
[09:10] <seb128> hey didrocks
[09:10] <willcooke> hi seb128
[09:10] <rbalint> willcooke, i use the router and the wifi, too
[09:11] <willcooke> rbalint, ah!  And you're happy I assume?  Do you use it with VDSL?
[09:12] <rbalint> willcooke, i'm super happy since the router's cli is like cisco's
[09:12] <willcooke> that would make me happy too :)
[09:12] <rbalint> also the wifi is fast
[09:13] <willcooke> I'm going to look at the QOS options and the multi-WAN routing a bit more, and then I think I will get one
[09:13] <rbalint> i have only ~50mbps uplink due to local constraint but parallel connections work much nicer than on usual small wifi routers
[09:14] <Laney> the edgerouters ship with an OS based on a really old debian
[09:14] <Laney> which is annoying me atm due to some incompatibilties between its openvpn and stable's
[09:14] <willcooke> Laney, any idea if they might fix it one day?
[09:14] <rbalint> willcooke, so no vdsl, just adsl
[09:15] <willcooke> rbalint, yeah, I've got two domestic VDSL connections which I round-robin load balance. 50 down 10 to 15 up each
[09:15] <Laney> yeah they said they were working on a newer base
[09:15] <willcooke> cool
[09:15] <Laney> it basically works well though, you might not care/notice
[09:16] <willcooke> I do have an OpenVPN tunnel up to an Ubuntu box in Digital Ocean
[09:16] <willcooke> but yeah, I can probably work around that
[09:17] <Laney> it probably works, I was trying to push some settings relating to ipv6 that aren't in older openvpns
[09:18] <willcooke> I get an IPv6 address(es) with my BT line, so I would like to start using it.  I'm good, thanks! how are you yourself?
[11:37] <Laney> oSoMoN: :D yeah, not bad thanks
[13:28]  * andyrock realised he forgot to wish all a good morning today :/
[13:30] <willcooke> hi andyrock :)
[13:34] <seb128> hey andyrock
[13:35] <jbicha> good morning
[13:38] <oSoMoN> good afternoon andyrock
[13:38] <oSoMoN> good morning jbicha
[13:50] <seb128> hey jbicha
[15:40] <acheronuk> seb128: thanks for the comment on the software-properties menu visibility bug. I'd sorta forgotten about that for the time being, but knew the diff on the bug was no longer good. I'll try to do as suggested soon
[15:41] <seb128> acheronuk, yw! and thx, I can have another look when you submit the change, feel free to ping me on IRC on add me to the mp as reviewer
[15:41] <acheronuk> ok :)
[16:20] <seb128> Trevinho, is there anyone upstream you can try to nag about getting https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/libnotify/merge_requests/4 reviewed? I would prefer to have it no distro-specific-patched if we can avoid it
[16:20] <gitbot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 4 in libnotify "notify-send: allow passing colon as hint value" [Opened]
[16:22] <seb128> Trevinho, sorry, confused changed, ... can you try to upstream the one from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnotify/+bug/1802483 ?
[16:22] <seb128> seems it's not atm?
[16:38] <Trevinho> seb128: so you were referring to the snap one right?
[16:38] <Trevinho> Well, I thought not to upstream it as it was very snap specific... anyway libnotify doesn't seem to have a proper maintainer now
[16:38] <Trevinho> so... If we do a review ourselves upstream we can probably merge it
[16:39] <Trevinho> per sé it won't touch anything inside non-snap envs
[17:01] <seb128> trevinho, yes the snap one, sorry for the confusion
[17:01] <seb128> right, I expect upstream to be fine having snap specific code if that doesn't impact them
[17:02] <Trevinho> seb128: I can propose that, then maybe ken can give it a look & review?
[17:03] <seb128> well propose it anyway, then we can wait for upstream and distro patch meanwhile
[17:03] <Trevinho> ok
[17:03] <Trevinho> seb128: and we need to SRU it more than everything
[17:04] <Trevinho> seb128: I was looking the thing also for GApplication's notify, but those are more complicated, as they need an app-id as source, and..  app-id's are not possible as per snap format on .desktop files
[17:04] <seb128> right, first step is land it in disco, I can handle that and the SRUs but I would like it at least proposed upstream
[17:05] <Trevinho> ok
[17:05] <Trevinho> seb128: playing with this for GApplication would make it you see what I mean https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VBQ79pHD5b/
[17:06] <seb128> right
[17:06] <seb128> one step at the time
[17:14] <Trevinho> seb128: libnotify proposed at https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/libnotify/merge_requests/5
[17:14] <gitbot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 5 in libnotify "notification: use snap namespace and prefix whent launched inside snap" [Opened]
[17:14] <seb128> Trevinho, thx
[17:15] <seb128> can you get a code review for that from someone in our team before we upload/SRU? maybe andyrock if he has some review cycle, that shouldn't be too long/complex right?
[17:22] <Trevinho> k
[17:24] <seb128> we still need to get a review from upstream then
[17:25] <seb128> but a first code review would give us more confidence in having the improvement in Ubuntu while it's blocked on upstream
[18:17] <willcooke> night all
[18:48] <marcustomlinson> Trevinho: hi! :) Totally eavesdropping here, just a thought: Wouldn't you be logging "Setting hint..." sometimes when the value is not actually amended? : https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/libnotify/merge_requests/5/diffs#89fbedd120537a5dd6e1c2b16cc94af0bfeba8a3_782_916
[18:48] <gitbot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 5 in libnotify "notification: use snap namespace and prefix whent launched inside snap" [Opened]
[18:48] <marcustomlinson> Say if the key was neither "desktop-entry", "image-path", "image_path" or "sound-file"
[19:45] <andyrock> seb128: I can take a look next week
[19:46] <andyrock> also I'm trying to understand why zfs  module is being loaded at boot time
[19:46] <andyrock> tainting my kernel and making it impossible to install livepatches
[19:47] <andyrock> I'm not using any zfs
[20:25] <seb128> andyrock, try asking on #ubuntu-kernel maybe if they have an idea?
[20:48] <andyrock> it was because of lxd
[20:49] <seb128> ah
[20:49] <seb128> so lxd is conflicting with livepatch use?
[20:49] <seb128> that seems suboptimal :/


[09:41] <ppisati> anyone with a beagle xm rev.c willing to do a test, please contact me
[10:10] <ogra_> xranby, thanks for taking over
[10:10]  * ogra_ hugs xranby
[10:10] <xranby> youre welcome
[12:45] <ndec> ogra_: what do you think of bug 872178
[12:45] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 872178 in jasper-initramfs "ROOTDEV export not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872178
[12:54] <ogra_> ndec, hmm, it is used in all other installs
[12:54] <ogra_> do you avoid _growroot with some hack or so ?
[12:57] <ndec> ogra_: i asked XavB to join, as he is the one that knows this stuff..
[12:57] <ndec> XavB: (2:54:37 PM) ogra_: do you avoid _growroot with some hack or so ?
[12:57] <ogra_> XavB, it works on all other installs, so there must be something special in the way you use jasper
[12:58] <XavB> ogra_: not sure if other are using mmcblk1
[12:59] <XavB> ogra_: as soon as you ar eusing mmcblk0, no issue, because a default value is set.
[12:59] <ogra_> hmm, i thought we added a way to override that...
[12:59] <ogra_> let me take a look at the code, one sec
[12:59] <XavB> if you add trace to jasper_setup, you will see that the export form ROOTDEV is not seen into jasper_setup
[13:00] <ogra_> did you try setting root= on the cmdline ?
[13:00] <XavB> ogra_: in fact I reviewed the code and it seems OK, the only problem is the export from _growroot that is not visible into _setup
[13:01] <XavB> ogra_: yes I have root=/dev/mmcblk1p2
[13:01] <ogra_> well, export exports to the full environment, you should see it unless its actually unset
[13:01] <ogra_> hmm, that should actually pick up the right bits then
[13:01] <XavB> The _growroot part is working fine, ROOTDEV is computed correctly, the resize of mmcblk1p2 is OK
[13:02] <XavB> but then the UUID is computed on mmcblk0p2 and after the reboot we are using FS on eMMC not SD
[13:02] <ogra_> well, i dont see why the export wouldnt work, it is the same shell
[13:03] <XavB> ogra_: adding traces demonstrate that the export don't work, I promise...
[13:04] <ogra_> infinity, any idea why an export from one initrd script to another wouldnt work ? even though they should be inside the same environment
[13:08] <janimo> ogra_, so mx5 install actually works if I do not tick automatic login
[13:08] <janimo> just takes very very long
[13:08] <janimo> the packages are removed, adn you get into lightdm
[13:08] <janimo> but only 15 minutes after the ubiquity GUI disappears
[13:09] <janimo> ogra_, re the ROOTDEV bug, I saw jasper setup script (?) set rootdev explicitly in case it is not set in growroot
[13:10] <janimo> which seemed one of the weird places in the code as growroot has exports
[13:10] <janimo> but they may be run from different shell sessions so the exports do not carry over
[13:10] <brandini> janimo: how do you install lightdm
[13:10] <janimo> brandini, it is on the image by default
[13:11] <brandini> how did you enable it?
[13:11] <brandini> start lightdm?
[13:11] <ndec> brandini: it's supposed to be enabled by default.
[13:11] <ndec> what's the problem?
[13:11] <ogra_> janimo, thats just a fallback, growroot should actually have exported the right thing
[13:11] <brandini> I don't have any X running on my machine
[13:12] <janimo> ogra_, well the fact there is a fallback shows the export does not always work
[13:12] <brandini> I plug in my TV to the hdmi out and all I see is the login prompt
[13:12] <ndec> brandini: is it intentional?
[13:12] <janimo> so we should either see why it does not work, or just set it anew in setup
[13:12] <brandini> ndec: I'm running 11.10 server so I dunno
[13:12] <janimo> of course not for O :)
[13:12] <ndec> brandini: what do you call login prompt with no X?
[13:12] <ndec> ah... on the console
[13:13] <brandini> yup
[13:13] <ogra_> janimo, i just added it to make sure we succeed in any case even if the user adds soemthing weirtd to root=
[13:13] <ndec> i didn't use the server image. is ubuntu-desktop package available?
[13:14]  * brandini looks
[13:15] <brandini> ndec: you're right :)
[13:15] <brandini> 565MB
[13:15] <ogra_> well, better use the task than the metapackage
[13:15] <ogra_> apt-get install ubuntu-desktp^
[13:15] <ogra_> *desktop
[13:17] <brandini> :)
[13:17] <ogra_> (note the caret, its important)
[13:17] <brandini> too late?
[13:18] <infinity> ogra_: export exports to children, it can't export "up" to the parent.
[13:20] <ogra_> argh !
[13:20] <ogra_> damned
[13:20] <ogra_> i thought it exports on the same level
[13:20] <ogra_> not sure what made me think that
[13:50] <infinity> ogra_: If it was exported by the parent, then children can change it.  But children can't export to the parent.
[13:50] <ogra_> right
[13:50] <ogra_> so i need a tmpfile or some such
[13:51] <ogra_> to put the value in and make the second script read it
[13:51] <infinity> ogra_: What are you mangling?
[13:51] <ogra_> how ugly
[13:51] <ogra_> Bug 872178
[13:51] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 872178 in jasper-initramfs "ROOTDEV export not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872178
[13:51] <ogra_> infinity, ^^^
[13:51] <ogra_> TI has probs with a blaze install
[13:52] <infinity> Don't we use more or less the same detection routine twice?
[13:52] <ogra_> no
[13:52] <ogra_> only once
[13:52] <infinity> Or is it just hardcoded in _setup?
[13:52] <ogra_> it is hardcoded to a fallback of mmcblk0
[13:52] <infinity> Ahh.
[13:52] <ogra_> if the export doesnt get through
[13:53] <ogra_> which doesnt harm us on any installs atm
[13:53] <ogra_> since all our images use mmcblk0 ... the blaze cant
[13:53] <infinity> Well, you could do this two ways.  You could find it in growroot and write a tempfile, or you could break the detection out into a utility that you install to /bin
[13:53] <ogra_> well, i could also add it to initramfs-tools, the value i set in a child should persist for the other child then, no ?
[13:54] <ogra_> though it feels very wrong to add jasper vars there
[13:54] <infinity> If you export ROOTDEV= in init, then it would persist.
[13:54] <infinity> But that seems silly.
[13:55] <ogra_> no, i mean if i set ROOTDEV to a value in growroot, that should get handed over to _setup
[13:55] <ogra_> if the var is owned by init
[13:55] <infinity> Yeah.
[13:55] <infinity> That's what I meant.
[13:55] <ogra_> k
[13:56] <infinity> See the list of exports in init.
[13:56] <ogra_> well, not the solution for now though
[13:56] <ogra_> (and actually a bit to late for a solution in general i think)
[13:56] <ndec> ogra_: why exactly do we have to hardcode mmbblk0 in initramfs?
[13:56] <infinity> Yeah, I'm not sure this is something we should care about for release.
[13:56] <ogra_> ndec, its a fallback value
[13:57] <infinity> ndec: We don't have to, and shouldn't, it's a bug IMO.  But not an RC one, given that the images all work as designed on their respective targets.
[13:57] <ndec> sure.
[13:57] <ogra_> it gets only used if the first script doesnt hand the info to the second (which sadly seems to be a default)
[13:57] <infinity> But yes, the ROOTDEV stuff is all broken/wrong, IMO.
[13:57] <ndec> what do we do in the non fallback solution?
[13:57] <ogra_> hack jasper :(
[15:41] <ogra_> xranby, was it you who filed that gconf bug where gconf looks in the wrong path ?
[15:41]  * ogra_ needs the bug #
[16:11] <ThersiT> I've got a usb to serial adapter I'm trying to use to get to an Arcturus module. For the life of me I can't get minicom to connect to my module. However if I run WinXP in a virtualbox I can get Putty to connect. Have any of seen this before?
[16:12] <GrueMaster> Why use minicom?  Use screen, much easier.  screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200
[16:15] <ThersiT> Screen won't work either. The adapter is being recognized. Here is my dmesg output. [ 5880.414017] usb 5-1: generic converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[16:16] <GrueMaster> ok.  What does screen output when launched?
[16:17] <ThersiT> Screen gives me nothing but a flashing cursor. I'm in the dialout group too.
[16:18] <ThersiT> Used the same cmd you just posted.
[16:18] <GrueMaster> What speed settings do you use in Putty?  Any other comm settings?
[16:18] <ThersiT> 115200 8N1 no flow control.
[16:20] <ThersiT> I've been all over the web, I'm really at a lost here.
[16:21] <GrueMaster> Very interesting.  I am using the same settings on 8 different USB serial cables here with no problem.
[16:22] <GrueMaster> Try sudo screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200.  Also, try unplugging the usb cable from your host and re-plugging it in and checking dmesg to verify it is ttyUSB0.
[16:25] <ThersiT> Ahh, sudo gives me an error in screen "ioctl failed"
[16:26] <ThersiT> "Interrupted system call"
[16:26] <ThersiT> Is that any help?
[16:26] <GrueMaster> Very interesting.
[16:26] <GrueMaster> Anything in dmesg?
[16:28] <ThersiT> Negative.
[16:29] <ThersiT> Also I've tried this in 10.04, 11.04, and Backtrack 5.
[16:30] <GrueMaster> This is very odd.  My desktop is 10.04, and I have a dedicated serial console (serial-killer) running 11.04, neither have had these issues.
[16:31] <GrueMaster> Make sure your usb device isn't being taken over by the VM.
[16:32] <ThersiT> Yea, It's really kicking my butt. VM has'nt been open since a reboot.
[16:33] <ThersiT> I modprobed the adapter myself after boot.
[16:34] <GrueMaster> So dmesg does show the ttyUSB device?
[16:35] <ThersiT> Yup. ttyUSB0
[16:36] <GrueMaster> What does "sudo lsof ./dev/ttyUSB0" show?  May be modem-manager getting in the way.
[16:36] <ThersiT> It's 660. Owned by root:dialout. Letme look.
[16:37] <ogra_> nromally ubuntu users are in the dialout group by default
[16:38] <GrueMaster> I don't think it is a permissions issue.  I think some other app is taking control of the device in the background.
[16:39] <ThersiT> sudo lsof /dev/ttyUSB0
[16:39] <ThersiT> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/wstraus/.gvfs
[16:39] <ThersiT>       Output information may be incomplete.
[16:39] <GrueMaster> lsof should show who/what has the device open
[16:40] <GrueMaster> Ignore the gvfs stuff.
[16:41] <ThersiT> How do you quit screen?
-a k
[16:43] <ThersiT> I had a bunch of screen's open, they were listed in lsof and I killed the pids.
[16:44] <ThersiT> But after killing all of those nothing gets listed from lsof
[16:44] <GrueMaster> ok, that is a good thing.  Now try launching screen again.
[16:45] <ThersiT> sudo?
[16:45] <obarthelemy> Hi... sorry, dumb question... what are the user+root accounts and pwd for oneiric-core-armel ?
[16:45] <GrueMaster> You may have to do something on your test system as well to get any output (like reset).
[16:46] <GrueMaster> obarthelemy: There is no passwd.  You should be able to use it as a chroot environment w/o problem.
[16:46] <ogra_> obarthelemy, -core is for building your own images, its just enough OS to run apt, nothing more, no user or configuration
[16:47] <ThersiT> Just rebooted the module with screen running, got nothing.
[16:48] <ThersiT> I should see it booting then a login prompt.
[16:49] <ThersiT> let me try sudo screen.
[16:50] <ThersiT> Nothing using sudo either.
[16:50] <obarthelemy> I know core is very bare, that' what i want... I'm stuck at the login prompt though, root/blank don't work, blank/blank neither, tried temppwd which was the correct pwd for the minimal-omap rootfs, no luck either
[16:51] <ogra_> right, as i said, no users, no passwd, no config
[16:52] <ogra_> you would have to create a rootpw before booting the rootfs
[16:53] <obarthelemy> ok, ill dot hat then, thanks
[16:53] <ThersiT> Do you guys know a good adapter that works well with linux? I can go buy a new one.
[16:57] <gildean> i remember reading about the same problem somewhere
[16:57] <GrueMaster> ThersiT: All of mine are TrendNet USB Serial.
[16:58] <GrueMaster> Essentially anything with a pl2303 converter chip should work well.
[16:58] <GrueMaster> What does dmesg say your USB cable has for a converter?
[16:58] <gildean> hmm, here it was, don't know if this is any help: http://www.trimslice.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=335
[16:58]  * ogra_ never checked, i'm just buying them as i lose them
[16:58] <ogra_> and never had one that didnt work
[17:02] <ThersiT> GrueMaster: cool I'll go looking. dmesg says "usbserial_generic 5-1:1.0: generic converter detected" but it's a TIUSB3410
[17:02] <ThersiT> gildean: I'm looking at that now.
[17:15] <ThersiT> Thanks guys. I'm just gonna try a new one.
[17:16] <GrueMaster> ThersiT: Make sure you do a little research before you just buy one.  You should be able to google the specs easily enough.
[17:18] <ThersiT> Yea, I'm gonna try to find one with that PL2303 chipset.
[17:18] <prpplague> or has an ftdi chipset
[17:18] <prpplague> both are reasonably stable
[17:19]  * GrueMaster has had excellent luck with the TrendNet brand, and a few others that have the pl2303 in them.
[17:20] <GrueMaster> One of my cables is actually a 4 serial port hydra cable.  1 USB<>4 Serial heads.  Other than enumerating, it works very well.
[17:21] <GrueMaster> But I doubt a lot of people are using multiple usb-serial adapters on a single system to control 8+ arm systems.
[17:22] <ThersiT> I read in that forum gildean showed me to short pins 2 and 3 to make a loop back and that failed. I think this adapter in just not linux friendly.
[17:24] <GrueMaster> Highly possible.  I also found a bunch of issue reports when I googled for TIUSB3410 Linux.
[17:24] <GrueMaster> To be fair, there "may" be a module that just isn't being loaded for some reason.
[17:24] <GrueMaster> But I doubt that is the issue.
[17:25] <ThersiT> I did have to add a udev rule to load usbserial.
[17:26] <GrueMaster> ThersiT: Check lsmod to see if ti-usb-3410* is loaded.
[17:27] <ThersiT> Tried lsusb | grep ti and got nothing relevant.
[17:28] <GrueMaster> Then try "sudo modprobe ti_usb_3410_5052".
[17:32] <ThersiT> tried it, no change. what is the 5052?
[17:33] <ThersiT> lsmod says ti_usb is using ttyUSB0 tho.
[17:36] <GrueMaster> Ok, different kernel, different module.
[17:39] <ThersiT> I'm on Ubuntu Desktop 10.04 2.6.32-34-generic
[17:40] <GrueMaster> Interesting, I'm on the same kernel.
[17:41] <GrueMaster> Well, -pae.
[17:43] <ThersiT> Yup, been messing with it for a few days. Installed that WinXP vbox last night and hated every minute of it. heh
[17:51] <ThersiT> On a side note I'm new to these modules. Is uClinux the way to go?
[17:52] <GrueMaster> No idea.  Never worked with that.
[17:52] <ogra_> does uClinux still exist ?
[17:53] <ogra_> i thought that died long ago
[17:54] <ThersiT> Oh, that would suck. This Arcturus module was bought about 2 years ago and uClinux is what came on it.
[17:55] <ThersiT> What do you guys use?
[17:55] <ogra_> well, you are in #ubuntu-arm
[17:55] <ogra_> so make a guess ;)
[17:57] <ThersiT> Ah heh heh, yup I should have thought of that.
[19:50] <martyn> How can I get a PPA compiled on the ARM farm?
[19:50] <martyn> ( Specifically : http://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/dists/lucid/nginx/ )
[19:50] <martyn> compiled in Oneieric
[19:52] <GrueMaster> martyn: Not sure, but I believe heavy bribing with beer may be involved.  :P
[19:53] <GrueMaster> Seriously, I wouldn't know.
[19:55] <GrueMaster> I can pull it locally and see if it builds on one of my pandas if that is what you are looking for.
[20:08] <GrueMaster> martyn: We already have nginx in the pool (universe).  I'm sure it will get resync'd and rebuilt after next week.
[20:13] <martyn> GrueMaster: That would be helpful
[20:13] <martyn> GrueMaster: My buildd is down, having been "borrowed" for a corporate demo
[20:13] <martyn> cool
[20:14] <martyn> So it's migrated from PPA to universe?
[20:20] <GrueMaster> Yes, but it is at 1.05-1.  Building 1.08 for you now.  Shouldn't take too long.
[20:20] <GrueMaster> btw:  Are you coming to UDS-Orlando?


[04:11] <superm1> evand, if you didnt already get started i just fixed the last of the regressions i found, i'm gonna push to the trunk branch in a min or two
[04:16] <CIA-1> ubiquity: superm1 * r2684 ubiquity/ (12 files in 6 dirs): merge w/ mythbuntu-oem branch
[15:15] <wizard_> hello


[21:20] <hades08> how to put apparmor in complain mode under ubuntu-core/snappy ?
[21:21] <hades08> apparmor_parser -C ?
[21:27] <hades08> plz help me ! :)
[22:12] <beuno> hades08, I'd suggest emailing the snappy list
[22:12] <beuno> there's nobody around today to get that answer for you
[22:13] <hades08> ill have a look thx


[15:42] <enyc> hrrm, when does  focal start to appear on  packages.ubuntu.com/  search facility ?!?!
[15:47] <genii> After it's official release in April 2020
[15:48] <enyc> righty-ho, ok.  I'm used to beeing able t asearch testing debian packages on packages.debian.org which is quite useful
[15:48] <enyc> ok no problem!
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> enyc: are you looking to help test?
[16:23] <enyc> lotuspsychje: not been unknown for me to try  debian testing and  ubuntu+1  or ubuntu-almost-released  in various circumstances
[16:24] <enyc> lotuspsychje: in debian "testing" is a pointer/link/codename unto itself
[16:24] <enyc> lotuspsychje: as-in, pointing towards debian+1 of the time
[16:40] <enyc> lotuspsychje: sometimes, i've wanted to set up some service to work on "next LTS" and things like that, or want to see a longstanding bug fixed "before next LTS"  or that sort of thing
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> cool enyc im also help bugging lts releases


[02:37] <Ark74> marcopolo: in the control center on the Personal section, I see an option to defined prefered applications, on the System tab, there you should be able to select the terminal emulator you want. I have Terminator in mine
[02:39] <Ark74> oh, seems like this was already suggested
[07:18] <marcopolo> as i said , i already have mate terminal in preferred app


[14:01] <TJ-> I've just been testing the hirsute daily ISO for aarch64 on a Samsung Galaxy Book2 (Qualcom Snapdragon 850) and it fails to boot - apparently not even managing to start GRUB. If I create a manual GPT+EFI-SP and copy grubaa64.efi into /efi/boot/bootaa64.efi it loads GRUB. Not sure how/where to report this; been looking on qa.ubuntu.com but not obvious what package to report this against
 Uh... I don’t know. I’ll ask onto others-maybe in the grub package


[09:28] <cjwatson> This is to switch back to our usual primary database server (we switched away from it a couple of weeks ago) after it had some of its RAM replaced.
[10:13] <cjwatson> The standby DB isn't back yet, so things may be a bit slow for a while, but should otherwise be fine.
[10:20] <acheronuk> cjwatson: I assume this is why some builds are showing as "uploading builds" for 30 mins or so?
[10:20] <cjwatson> Yes
[10:20] <cjwatson> We haven't quite started all the things back up yet; will do shortly
[10:20] <acheronuk> ty
[10:23] <cjwatson> nagios.kubuntu-ci is almost as effective as nagios.wgrant these days
[10:28] <cjwatson> acheronuk: Should have mostly caught up now.
[15:24] <juliank> I could not add any tasks for stable releases in https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1789319 via web, I had to go via the API :(
[15:24] <juliank> Maybe I should remove some packages, but they are all sort of related
[15:28]  * juliank should write a LP bug modificiation DSL
[15:29] <cjwatson> You might find you can do it using the AIP.
[15:29] <cjwatson> *API
[15:29] <juliank> Indeed
[15:29] <cjwatson> Conjoined tasks can be nasty in the UI.
[15:29] <cjwatson> Oh, "I had to go via the API", yeah, you said that


[13:44] <persia> Team meeting in 15 minutes in #ubuntu-meeting
[14:03] <ttx> persia: meeting now ?
[14:03] <persia> Yes :)
[18:59] <marcel1607> hi
[19:08] <StrikeP826> WoW I just came from irc://irc.ninth-gate.org/projectw and they told me about you guys.. H
[19:09] <sommer> no they didn't


[07:12] <jo-erlend> Still can't play Severed Fifth in Rhythmbox on 64bit Ubuntu 12.04. Neither Rhythmbox or Totem are able to install necessary plugins for anything. I find it a little disturbing that things like that are still broken less than a week before release.
[07:13] <jo-erlend> I haven't been able to find anyone who knows why this is the case. Perhaps someone here does?
[08:02] <popey> jo-erlend: can mplayer play it?
[08:04] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/939354/
[09:18] <jo-erlend> popey, I haven't the foggiest. I know vlc can, for instance, and both Totem and Rhythmbox can if I install ubuntu-restricted-extras. But they cannot install required codecs the way they're supposed to.
[09:19] <jo-erlend> you get a dependency error.
[09:22] <jo-erlend> sometimes, when I put myself in the role of a new user, Ubuntu seems utterly untested. It still isn't possible to "Open With > Other" with Firefox, for instance. It only allows you to choose files, not applications. Completely obvious things that still isn't working five days before release.. Makes me more than a little nervous.
[09:26] <popey> ok ok, putting the rant to one side lets diagnose the issue
[09:27] <popey> jo-erlend: pastebin what happens when you "mplayer track.mp3"
[09:28] <jo-erlend> popey, why mplayer? Totem and  Rhythmbox both use GStreamer, don't they?
[09:29] <popey> because mplaye produces readable output
[09:29] <jo-erlend> ok. Wait a moment, and I'll paste the results I get when trying to play an mp3 the way someone who didn't know anything would.
[09:30] <popey> ok, you clearly don't want any help but just want to rant about how this doesn't work
[09:31] <popey> I'll stop.
[09:32] <jo-erlend> hmm? I told you, I can easily play music and video. A beginner will not be able to.  That's not the case.
[09:45] <popey> no
[09:45] <popey> i am just asking you to provide some info so I can help debug it
[09:46] <popey> you're focussing on what I'm asking you to do, as if I am expecting all users to install mplayer as a fix, which I am not
[09:46] <popey> I just asked you to run mplayer because it produces more useful output than totem
[09:55] <jo-erlend> yes, mplayer plays it.
[09:55] <popey> can you pastebin the output?
[09:56] <jo-erlend> http://paste.ubuntu.com/939434
[09:57] <jo-erlend> seems less useful than the deb information though? http://paste.ubuntu.com/939417
[09:58] <popey> "Requested audio codec family [mpg123] (afm=mpg123) not available." is interesting
[09:59] <popey> but other mp3s seem to do that too
[09:59] <popey> why do you have the i386 package of gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly installed?
[10:02] <jo-erlend> popey, probably came with ffmpeg?
[10:02] <popey> i dont have it on my system
[10:02] <jo-erlend> I don'ẗ know. I don't think I've installed it intentionally.
[10:02] <popey> what gets removed if you remove it?
[10:03] <jo-erlend> but on a 64bit 12.04 install does prefer gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly:i386
[10:03] <popey> i have the native version on my amd64 system
[10:03] <popey> not i386
[10:04] <jo-erlend> right, but that's not what Totem and Rhythmbox wants to install.
[10:04] <jo-erlend> they both want to install the i386
[10:04] <popey> totem plays mp3s fine here
[10:04] <popey> and they haven't installed i386 packages
[10:05] <jo-erlend> it does here too, after I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras. But if I'm going to ask the media to test and write about Ubuntu, I can't tell them to do things like that. It makes Ubuntu still look like a thing for very technical users. And this is supposed to be very easy. Has been the last few releass.
[10:06] <jo-erlend> popey, I have confirmed this on about fifty installs, during the entire cycle.
[10:06] <popey> bug number?
[10:08] <jo-erlend> I'm not entirely sure I've even looked for it. Playing music and video seems like something so obvious, I was sure someone else had it under control.
[10:08] <popey> yet you've seen it on 50 machines?
[10:09] <popey> ok, get it filed
[10:09] <jo-erlend> and you know.. To me personally, it's never been a problem anyway, so I just figured it'd go away by itself and forgot all about it. It's only a few days since I made a reinstall. I was absolutely sure this had been fixed a long time ago.
[10:09] <jo-erlend> popey, not fifty machines. Installs.
[10:09] <popey> same thing
[10:10] <popey> ok, lets get it filed then.
[10:10] <jo-erlend> no, it most definitely is not the same. I've  reinstalled on my laptop many times during this cycle. It's still the same machine.
[10:10] <popey> do you need help filing the bug?
[10:10] <jo-erlend> no.
[10:11] <popey> I can certainly try to confirm it in a VM, let me know the bug number once it's filed
[10:12] <popey> sorry for the misunderstanding.
[10:12] <jo-erlend> while I'm reporting it, confirm it anyway. In a fresh install, without installing codecs with ubiquity, click on an mp3 file and accept the defaults.
[10:12] <jo-erlend> do the same with any kind of video or audio. The result is the same.
[10:16] <popey> will do
[10:16] <popey> using latest daily of precise?
[10:16] <jo-erlend> sure. Any will do.
[10:17] <popey> ok
[10:23] <jo-erlend> but I have to say; if something like playing music and video can slip through the cracks, then we have serious problems.
[10:23] <popey> meh
[10:23] <popey> lets see what the problem is first
[10:27] <jo-erlend> a package dependency issue.. Didn't you look at the paste? http://paste.ubuntu.com/939417/
[10:29] <popey> yes, i looked at it
[10:29] <popey> i also couldn't read it
[10:31] <jo-erlend> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/986520
[10:31] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 986520 in sessioninstaller "On 64bit systems :i386 codec packages cannot be installed. Media cannot be played. " [Undecided,New]
[10:31]  * popey subscribes
[10:32] <popey> just downloading iso now
[10:32] <jo-erlend> popey, oh, I'm sorry. I forgot it's in Norwegian.
[10:33]  * popey installs
[10:33] <popey> np ☺
[10:33] <popey> my Norwegian isn't too hot ;)
[10:35] <popey> \o/ virtualbox installing ubuntu
[10:35] <jo-erlend> I don't even see Norwegian in text like that, because I know what the static text message says :)
[10:36] <jo-erlend> yes, Windows 7 broke my MD RAID the other day, and I lost 1.8TB of data. Among that was my entire collection of ISOs. I didn't back those up, so I need to download again. That'll take a while. :)
[10:39] <popey> erk
[10:39]  * popey has just setup his first btrfs array at home
[10:39] <jo-erlend> right. That's what I did too. I went from an MD/LVM solution to a pure btrfs solution. It's wonderful :)
[10:40] <jo-erlend> so wonderful, I didn't really feel that bad about having to restore from backup :)
[10:40] <popey> hah
[10:41] <jo-erlend> and boot time went from 1m30s to about 35 seconds. :)
[10:58]  * popey updates bug 986520
[10:58] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 986520 in sessioninstaller "On 64bit systems :i386 codec packages cannot be installed. Media cannot be played. " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/986520
[10:59] <popey> its a dupe of bug 899001
[10:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 899001 in sessioninstaller "gst-install wants to install i386-version of codec packages on amd64" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/899001
[11:00] <popey> and it's fix-committed \o/
[11:02] <popey> thanks for reporting it jo-erlend
[11:02] <jo-erlend> hope it lands in time for me to finish the videos. I thought I'd have a couple of weeks.
[11:08] <jo-erlend> the last time Ubuntu was mentioned in Norwegian media was back in 2008, so it would be really great if we could impress some journalists with this one – preferably before release, so they have time to write about it when that happens.
[22:19] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: Hello! Do you have a second?
[22:19] <jono> JoseeAntonioR, sure
[22:20] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: Well, I don't know if you remember, I told you if you could please take a look at a blueprint last week. The link has changed, it is totally revamped and much more specific about the topics. It is here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-q-ubuntu-youth
[22:21] <jono> JoseeAntonioR, cool
[22:21] <jono> can you mail me about this so I can take a look?
[22:21] <jono> just send the URL to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:21] <jono> I will take a look when I get a second
[22:22] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: Yep, great. Thank you!
[22:22] <jono> thanks JoseeAntonioR!
[22:22] <JoseeAntonioR> Thanks to you for your time :)
[22:53] <cjohnston> I may have found a bug
[22:53] <cjohnston> uggh.. wrong window