[01:39] <infinityxi> i think it has something to do with the cross platform widgets
[01:39] <cables> SaveFerris, i don't know.
[01:39] <infinityxi> wxwindows?
[01:39] <xilly> Enselic_ : I've just googled "DISPLAY=host:0" and found this site that talks about the the "Xauthorization" , you can be having a problem to connect to the server because of this I don't know, the site is  http://www.cit.gu.edu.au/~anthony/info/X/Security
[01:39] <robbie_crash> indecision, no luk
[01:39] <robbie_crash> *luckj
[01:39] <robbie_crash> **LUCK
[01:39] <elpargo> covOPprometheus, as in reinstall inside synaptics
[01:40] <MrMakeveli> dcomsa, isnt amarok a music player?
[01:40] <mtm8> eck: Well what are the steps for a normal chroot? I'm used to doing it the Gentoo way where I have a nifty little env-update script. Ubuntu doesn't seem to update my environment variables.
[01:40] <Enselic_> xilly: I have the xauth setup already, so I don't think that's the problem
[01:40] <MrMakeveli> dcomsa, im looking for sound editing
[01:40] <indecision> robbie_crash: no luckj?  damnj.  ;)
[01:40] <gumjo> testytester, you have a problem with beryl?
[01:40] <elpargo> MrMakeveli, a little more then that
[01:40] <robbie_crash> :P
[01:40] <Enselic_> xilly: thanks for googling for me anyway :)
[01:40] <bayziders> There's an app called macmenu-applet, can some one help me install it is a very strange package.
[01:40] <dcomsa> MrMakeveli: ohhh sorry
[01:40] <ubd> theres a 3d application that shows fps what is it?
[01:40] <dcomsa> MrMakeveli: jokosher?
[01:40] <xilly> Enselic_ : ok ;)
[01:40] <ubd> something glx etc?
[01:40] <robbie_crash> ubd, glxgears
[01:40] <ledbettj> ubd: glxgears
[01:40] <elpargo> bayziders, is there a package for it??
[01:40] <jrib> !glxgears | ubd
[01:40] <ubotu> ubd: To display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal.
[01:40] <ubd> thanks!!
[01:40] <xilly> Enselic_ : np :)
[01:40] <eck> mtm8: i would just run the chroot shell as a login shell, i think that will reset them
[01:40] <MrMakeveli> dcomsa, have you used it for sound editing before?
[01:40] <covOPprometheus> elpargo, that's the problem, it isn't installed and I can't install it because it breaks at Setting up wvdial (1.56-1.1ubuntu2) .
[01:41] <indecision> robbie_crash: well it's a bit more of a pain, but it's probably detected on boot.  you could look through dmesg
[01:41] <g35> hi has anyone ever used xtightvncviewer?
[01:41] <infinityxi> glxgears -info
[01:41] <darx> my harddrive shows up as sda and its not scsi.. i need to enable dma how do it fix it? can i run hdparm on sda?
[01:41] <robbie_crash> indecision, dmesg?
[01:41] <elpargo> covOPprometheus, you do not have wvdial? try installing it alone
[01:41] <eck> mtm8: e.g. chroot /path/to/chroot /bin/bash -l
[01:41] <bayziders> elpargo: it is not in synaptic it is a folder with a .server, .c ,.h and a PKGBUILD file in the folder.I can not figure out how to install it.
[01:41] <dcomsa> MrMakeveli: it's a "multi-track studio"
[01:41] <jasin> 7.04 feisty fawn runs beautifully on my laptop; however, the touch pad does not work.
[01:41] <ajehuk> g35 - yep and Im sure Im not the only one :)
[01:41] <MrMakeveli> dcomsa, prettier than audacity?
[01:41] <testytester> My dvd broke in feisty kaffeine
[01:41] <mtm8> eck: Do I have to mount proc or anything?
[01:42] <testytester> dvd player
[01:42] <indecision> robbie_crash: type it at a console.  it'll spit out every line of output that's hidden behind the "ubuntu" splash screen when you boot.  everything that happens during startup is logged by it.
[01:42] <testytester> ishoudsay
[01:42] <dcomsa> MrMakeveli: much prettier
[01:42] <Xyon> root@pbd1082:~# compiz --replace gconf
[01:42] <Xyon> /usr/bin/compiz.real: No composite extension
[01:42] <Xyon> Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display ":0.0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager.
[01:42] <MrMakeveli> thank heavens
[01:42] <dcomsa> http://www.jokosher.org/
[01:42] <MrMakeveli> hahah
[01:42] <latoo> bayziders: sounds like a source package? did you try searching for it at getdeb?
[01:42] <eck> mtm8: it depend on what you are trying to do, i always forget when you need it. if you have problems with networking things mount it
[01:42] <elpargo> bayziders, that is not a deb package it seems like a slackware package, I suggest you find a deb or else you will have to a) make a manual build b) learn how to make a .deb
[01:42] <indecision> robbie_crash: you can type something like "dmesg > ~/dmesg.txt" and then open that file in gedit for easier reading/searching
[01:42] <darx> why is my hard drive showing up as sda? it is IDE and not SCSI
[01:42] <magnetron> MrMakeveli: it is in the repositorys
[01:42] <disinterested> i gave a friend of mine a dapper cd. but she has a dial up modem and cant get ubuntu to recognize the modem. so she cant get online to do any thing any solutions?
[01:42] <MrMakeveli> im checkin it out
[01:42] <atiredmachine> occasionally my system freezes up for a few seconds (music keeps playing and mouse still moves, but nothing responds or moves, not even alt-ctrl-d*..)  Any ideas?
[01:42] <jrib> !uuid > darx    (darx, see the private message from ubotu)
[01:42] <jasin> I see ubuntu still hasn't fixed the synaptics touchpad problems
[01:42] <g35> ajehuk: how can you connect to a server running on a port other than 5900 i tried : but it doesnt work
[01:42] <magnetron> !info jokosher
[01:42] <ubotu> jokosher: simple and easy to use audio multi-tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 432 kB, installed size 1692 kB
[01:42] <covOPprometheus> elpargo, same problem, it won't set up, you see the installation isn't the problem, but it freezes at autoconfiguration
[01:42] <elpargo> g35, what problems? I have it running just fine
[01:43] <bayziders> Latoo: What is getdeb?
[01:43] <Xyon> why cant i start compiz?
[01:43] <latoo> bayziders: a deb website. google it
[01:43] <ajehuk> g35 - what ports (I'll recreate the scenarion here and tell you what happens.. )
[01:43] <DarkX> !uuid > darkx
[01:43] <magnetron> Xyon, do you have proper graphic drivers installed?
[01:43] <HYPOCRISY> Hi
[01:43] <elpargo> Xyon, which compiz? be more specific please
[01:43] <g35> my server runs on port 443\
[01:43] <hatredx`> hi
[01:43] <RypPn`> hi
[01:43] <MrMakeveli> dcomsa, that looks a mlilion time better
[01:43] <MrMakeveli> i'll give it a try
[01:43] <latoo> bayziders: I mean, it's an Ubuntu specific site that hosts apps in deb format
[01:43] <jasin> I see ubuntu still hasn't fixed the synaptics touchpad problems
[01:43] <mtm8> eck: It isn't updating my environment variables
[01:43] <eck> atiredmachine: it is probably X locking up, which is probably a driver issue. I'm not sure there is much you can do
[01:44] <Xyon> compiz for gnome
[01:44] <elpargo> covOPprometheus, could you try that with apt-get install and pastebin the error?
[01:44] <variant> jasin: works for me fine..
[01:44] <g35> i do host:443
[01:44] <Xyon> it wont replace my current x manager
[01:44] <g35> i get connection refused
[01:44] <variant> jasin: have you submitted a bug report?
[01:44] <Xyon> i believe i have the correct video drivers installed
[01:44] <indecision> jasin: the one where it hangs the pointer periodically?  I'm getting that on an old dell I put ubuntu on
[01:44] <ubuntu> When installing feisty off of the livecd, it fails at creating the ext3 filesystem with the message: "The ext3 file system creation in partition #2 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) failed."  any ideas as to what could have caused this, or how to fix it?  (I am using a Maxtor SATA drive).
[01:44] <elpargo> Xyon, is this the first time? which version of ubuntu?
[01:44] <atiredmachine> eck, thanks, I'm using nvidia.. is this likely to to be fixed at some point?
[01:44] <HYPOCRISY> I'll soon find out
[01:44] <Xyon> 7.04
[01:44] <hatredx`> I'll think about it
[01:44] <RypPn`> no
[01:44] <eck> mtm8: there must be some bash option to clear them. do you need them to be cleared?
[01:44] <elpargo> Xyon, is that the "build in" one?
[01:44] <Xyon> this is the first time i've tried to start compiz and i'm on 7.04
[01:44] <robbie_crash> indecision, I think that told me where the drive is, cause it's on the second ide controller chip, on its second channel, and the other drive that's on that controller, on the other channel, is sda, and then my sata drive is sdc
[01:44] <NemesisD> jrib, is there a way just to set the driver rather than having to go through that whole reconfigure, i messed it up somewhere and broke X11, lol
[01:45] <ajehuk> I take it the host isnt running anything else on 443 (ie its the default https port...)
[01:45] <elpargo> Xyon, what video card you have?
[01:45] <bayziders> latoo: it is not there.
[01:45] <jrib> NemesisD: well you can try to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf directly
[01:45] <eck> atiredmachine: it would have to be fixed by nvidia. I suspect that if you ssh in after it locks up and look at the logs you will find some kernel messages about the nvidia driver misbehaving
[01:45] <mtm8> eck: Of course.
[01:45] <Xyon> ATI X700
[01:45] <ajehuk> g35 I take it the host isnt running anything else on 443 (ie its the default https port...)
[01:45] <darx> jrib: how can i check if dma is on?
[01:45] <kitche> elpargo: thbere is only one compiz right now since beryl hasn't switched over yet
[01:45] <jasin> variant, my touchpad works fine in windows, gparted live cd, partition magic boot disk, etc.. so its not my laptop its ubuntu.
[01:45] <jrib> !dma > darx    (darx, see the private message from ubotu)
[01:45] <mtm8> eck: chroot'ing into something without updating environment variables is about as good as cd'ing to it.
[01:45] <robbie_crash> indecision, so I guess it must be sdb, but it's not loading, how can I figure out why not, or where to fix it?
[01:45] <dcomsa> Xyon: there's a little bit complicated with ati cards
[01:45] <SaveFerris> ok, so beryl gives my a big white useless screen on xubuntu feisty, so what session do i want to load? (failsafe gnome didn't work)
[01:45] <jasin> variant,  nice try blaming my system
[01:45] <robbie_crash> indecision, could it be a bunged up fs?
[01:45] <Xyon> i've gone through all the crap in the tuts
[01:45] <latoo> bayziders: not all apps get packaged for every distro. Check on the main website for the app, and ask around.
[01:45] <gumjo> I installed beryl on feisty with video card drivers, and while the effects work the title bar doesn't show....any help?
[01:45] <Xyon> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz
[01:46] <g35> ajehuk: i can telnet fine into it and run it via my windows box
[01:46] <elpargo> kitche, that is not true. you could be running compiz that comes with 7.04 or the compiz deb packages that exist from before.
[01:46] <Pupbuntoo> hi, how do i install libdvdcss on feisty/64?
[01:46] <indecision> robbie_crash: you sure you're mounting the right partition on that disk?  and yes, it's entirely possible that the partition table or filesystem got messed up.
[01:46] <Xyon> gumjo: sounds like you need a window decorator
[01:46] <NemesisD> jrib, just change in the driver section the name vega?
[01:46] <elpargo> Xyon, and you have the ati propietary drivers?
[01:46] <jrib> NemesisD: you can /try/
[01:46] <jasin> indecision, yes, the mouse thats built in, the touchpad.
[01:46] <magnetron> Xyon: new info about ATI on feisty: http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/04/installing-ubuntu-704-ati-x-cards/
[01:46] <bayziders> Latoo: well how do you install a scource package?
[01:46] <ajehuk> g35 - cool - OK i have a vnc server now running on port 443 and....
[01:46] <elpargo> Xyon, searhc for envy it's a script that will get you the correct drivers (not sure if it's updated for 7.04)
[01:46] <SaveFerris> is it possible to tell beryl to not load at startup from terminal?
[01:46] <gumjo> I have Emerald and Heliodor insstalled, both dont show up
[01:46] <Xyon> i dont know, i got my crap running by using sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:46] <Xyon> correct?
[01:46] <gumjo> Envy is available for Feisty btw
[01:46] <NemesisD> jrib, ok and if it gets messed up, how does one restart x11 from bash?
[01:46] <jrib> SaveFerris: ~/.config/autostart/
[01:47] <Madeye> guys, I need to subscribe to comp.lang.python but I don't know any usenet client, any recommendation ?
[01:47] <eck> mtm8: look at the man page for env
[01:47] <elpargo> SaveFerris, beryl will never load at startup if you don't use that session
[01:47] <jrib> NemesisD: restore your backup and then 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start'
[01:47] <latoo> bayziders: look in the dir for an "INSTALL". That's where the instructions would be
[01:47] <dcomsa> Xyon: please join #ubuntu-effects. i think they are more experienced in this matter
[01:47] <magnetron> Xyon: new info about ATI on feisty: http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/04/installing-ubuntu-704-ati-x-cards/ , the  ATI X... bug
[01:47] <atiredmachine> eck, what would I do to ssh in?  usually it only locks up for 5 seconds or so, but once it completely locked up.
[01:47] <robbie_crash> indecision, there's only one partition on the drive. Let me reboot again and see if I can figure anything out
[01:47] <indecision> robbie_crash: (un?)fortunately I haven't had to recover a damaged filesystem in linux yet, but there's lots of guides out there with advice on what to do
[01:47] <samk> anyone know how to get icon themes from gnome-look.com to work?
[01:47] <Xyon> thank you guys
[01:47] <elpargo> ahh good, thanks gumjo
[01:47] <eck> mtm8: i guess env -i bash as your shell
[01:47] <bayziders> Nope I listen the files there is a .c a .h a .server and a PKGBUILD file there are no text files all code.
[01:47] <Ax4> btw
[01:47] <bayziders> @latoo
[01:47] <Ax4> happy 420 people!
[01:48] <magnetron> i have got this strange issue: now and then when the computer starts up, it starts in 640x480 screen resolution. if I restart the X server with ctrl+alt+bkspace, it is normal (1280x1024@50Hz) again. How can make it start normal EVERY time?
[01:48] <systemd0wn> lol
[01:48] <elpargo> bayziders, dude you need a .deb file that is not a ubuntu package
[01:48] <denicola> Help needed, please! Feisty can't install grub properly because it identifies my hda as sdb (I also have a sata drive, identified as sda). Edgy had no problem with this: Grub was installed on hd0.
[01:48] <eck> atiredmachine: every once in a while the same thing happens on my computer (intel chip). If you are running sshd you can actually log in and usually you can shut down X and recover the machine
[01:48] <Ax4> university of florida wants to be a 'green' campus
[01:48] <Ax4> im like hellz yea!
[01:48] <SaveFerris> jrib: what do i do with ~/.config/autostart?
[01:48] <indecision> jasin: yeah, unfortunately I can't offer any advice on fixing it...bugs me too.  but hey, at least you're not alone :)
[01:48] <jrib> SaveFerris: look inside for a file that starts beryl
[01:48] <bayziders> elpargo it does not have to a ubuntu package to install it, you can install many types of packages in ubuntu.
[01:48] <eck> mtm8: and of course source a profile afterward
[01:49] <covOPprometheus> elpargo, http://pastebin.ca/450624
[01:49] <magnetron> i have got this strange issue: now and then when the computer starts up, it starts in 640x480 screen resolution. if I restart the X server with ctrl+alt+bkspace, it is normal (1280x1024@50Hz) again. How can make it start normal EVERY time?
[01:49] <g35> ajehuk, ...howd it go?
[01:49] <jasin> indecision,  i just use an wireless mouse myself.
[01:49] <indecision> jasin: I wish I had one.  not worth buying on for this old thing, though... 500mhz and no wireless.  I just use it to tinker with.
[01:49] <elpargo> bayziders, that is not correct, you can only install deb files, you can run compiled code and you can even install manually but that may make your package manager unstable. Now if you do want to run that you will need to learn or search how to compile and run it.
[01:49] <bacon_> what/how do i blacklist drivers so feisty will use orinoco drivers for my ambit lan-express 802.11b card?
[01:50] <barbarella_me> denicola:can you pastebin your partition structure
[01:50] <cedricshock> Big, slightly off-topic question: If I interchange the two dimms in a computer, will that interchange the order of the memory addresses? Or does the bios just get to pick which one it wants to be first?
[01:50] <SaveFerris> jrib: cd ~/config./autostart so no such file or directory
[01:50] <Vinitious> now, gonna wait for the download, thnx for the help
[01:50] <jrib> SaveFerris: ~/.config/autostart/
[01:50] <aimes> why did the sudo aptitude update got stuck at 99%?
[01:50] <Vinitious> bye
[01:50] <jasin> indecision, I got mine for 10 bucks and its a laser mouse.
[01:50] <g35> ajehuk, sorry got booted, so what happened
[01:50] <elpargo> bayziders, I suggest you start by searching their website for instructions on how to build from source. if that is what you got
[01:51] <samk> anyone know how to get icon themes from gnome-look.com to work?
[01:51] <eck> bacon_: how is blacklisting them going to help you to use the card?
[01:51] <variant> jasin: what?
[01:51] <ajehuk> g35 hold on a moment...
[01:51] <gumjo> draq the archive to Theme Manager, Samk
[01:51] <kitche> cedricshock: the memory addresses are the same they just depend on the slot theya re in
[01:51] <mtm8> cedricshock: Good question, I'd be interested in an answer as well.
[01:51] <eck> samk: open up the theme manager and drag and drop the .tar.gz that you downloaded into it
[01:51] <variant> jasin: I sugested you open a bug report. I didn't blame anything
[01:51] <latoo> bayziders: if you read the instructions look for how to install in your /home dir so the app doesn't interfere with packaged apps
[01:51] <bacon_> is there a channel for wireless?
[01:51] <benkong2> bacon_: look in /etc/modules.d/
[01:51] <samk> theme prefernences?
[01:51] <mtm8> bacon_: #wireless
[01:51] <elpargo> covOPprometheus, that seems like a packaging error, did you search launchpad for bugs on that package?
[01:51] <eck> samk: yeah
[01:51] <samk> preferences
[01:52] <elpargo> bacon_, yes it has 7
[01:52] <magnetron> i have got this strange issue: now and then when the computer starts up, it starts in 640x480 screen resolution. if I restart the X server with ctrl+alt+bkspace, it is normal (1280x1024@50Hz) again. How can make it start normal EVERY time?
[01:52] <jasin> variant, its not a bug its some sorta configuration problem, but anyways, I already did submit the problem to ubuntu.
[01:52] <elpargo> magnetron, repeating wont get you an answer noone here really knows we can only guesstimate
[01:52] <variant> jasin: that is what a bug is, why did you say i was "blaming your system"?
[01:52] <covOPprometheus> elpargo, I have looked for the bug in wvdial, and found something about it frezzing in the autoconfig, but no solution at all
[01:52] <arentoine> Hello all, anyone know if the network icon next to the volume icon in festy is supposed to "blink"  to show some activity like the applet I'm used to have 6.10 ?
[01:52] <tuesday> is there anyway i can partition a section of my computer for ubuntu even though its got XP on it with he full hardrive taking that up
[01:52] <cmcculloh> magnetron, That happens to me when I don't have my screen turned on before I start the computer
[01:53] <Haekke> IS it easy to format ubuntu? I have additional disks in, can I just mount them again after a format?
[01:53] <eck> bayziders: usually something like: ./configure --prefix=$HOME/local will let you install into your homedir
[01:53] <jasin> variant, no its not.
[01:53] <latoo> tuesday: just boot from the live cd and use the partition editor
[01:53] <_doppelganger_> guys, lemme me know when you're not busy
[01:53] <magnetron> cmculloh: thank you! that is probably the issue.
[01:53] <Newise> Should Ubuntu 7.04 boot from SATA disks? Whatever I do, my computer boots to Windows and I do see any traces of Grub?
[01:53] <elpargo> tuesday, the program is call gparted is the same latoo is talking about
[01:53] <variant> _doppelganger_: what is your problem?
[01:53] <indecision> arentoine: this is just speculation on my part, but it might have to do with your particular network card.  it blinks on my laptop, but not on my deaktop.
[01:53] <cmcculloh> np ;)
[01:53] <hyperspace> can i kill a remote dist-upgrade (from gui)that gave up on fetching after max retries and restart with a dist-upgrade via console?
[01:53] <jasin> bugs are not configuration problems.
[01:53] <NemesisD> jrib, i think this computer doesn't like vega...
[01:53] <tuesday> ok what can i do if the live cd doesnt work?
[01:53] <elpargo> covOPprometheus, how long ago was that?
[01:53] <cedricshock> kitche: So I have card A, with addresses 0-255, and card B with address 256-479, and I interchange the slots, then card B will have addresses 0-223, and A will have 224-479?
[01:53] <Flannel> Newise: You haven't installed grub in the correct place, it sounds like
[01:53] <jrib> NemesisD: vesa?
[01:53] <NemesisD> oh god
[01:54] <variant> jasin: ok, tell somone else
[01:54] <_doppelganger_> varient- it seems to be very strange, although i am halfway new
[01:54] <indecision> Newise: do you have more than one hard disk, and are they both sata?
[01:54] <variant> _doppelganger_: just ask your question
[01:54] <Newise> How I can choose where Grub is installed?
[01:54] <arentoine> indecision : Really ? This is a desktop (wired connection)...
[01:54] <jasin> A software bug is an error, flaw, mistake, failure, or fault in a computer program.
[01:54] <darx> jrib: I need to enable 32bit io for my drive.. how can i do it under libata?
[01:54] <cedricshock> kitche, mtm8: I guess I'll just need to experiment and find out.
[01:54] <tuesday> ok i will give it a try
[01:54] <eck> Newise: usus the grub-install command
[01:54] <kitche> cedricshock: yea since the slots determine the memory addresses
[01:54] <jrib> darx: I don't know
[01:54] <_doppelganger_> when i boot the ubuntu live cd, and go choose the erase full disk and install option
[01:54] <eck> Newise: it sounds like it got installed to the wrong place
[01:54] <darx> jrib: ok.. thanks anyway
[01:54] <darx> :)
[01:54] <bayziders> Can you add the trash can to avant?
[01:54] <NemesisD> i think i might have typed vega
[01:54] <covOPprometheus> elpargo, 20 minutes!! and now I have a flash banner over the chat window because I searched for the launchpad URL
[01:54] <_doppelganger_> it fails on trying to format and install ext3 on sda1
[01:54] <NemesisD> brb
[01:55] <samk> how do I get the tar.gz when I download it it opens the file rolledr
[01:55] <Flannel> !grub | Newise, first link
[01:55] <indecision> arentoine: come to think of it, that laptop was running 6.10
[01:55] <ubotu> Newise, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:55] <jasin> configuration files, ie. conf,lst, etc.. are not programs, their not executable.
[01:55] <variant> _doppelganger_: with what error?
[01:55] <Haekke> IS it easy to format ubuntu? I have additional disks in, can I just mount them again after a format?
[01:55] <cedricshock> kitche: Excellent. Any idea why the system installed memory would be in the slot that ends up on top after adding another dimm?
[01:55] <_doppelganger_> every single time...  and i cannot understand why
[01:55] <_doppelganger_> i have tried to manually edit it and things, but to no avail
[01:55] <_doppelganger_> one sec, let me get the error
[01:55] <variant> jasin: so the bug is with the program that incorrectly configured that file. == bug
[01:55] <Flannel> Haekke: yep
[01:55] <couli1> help  upgrade goes worng on compiz http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16698/
[01:55] <variant> jasin: EOF
[01:55] <darx> how can I enable 32 bit IO for my drive? hdparm is not supported under the new libata driver?
[01:55] <elpargo> covOPprometheus, well then I guess you can only wait :) or try to fix the package.
[01:55] <basim> ;lk;p
[01:55] <kitche> cedricshock: huh? usually the memory have to be in a certain slot for one stick
[01:56] <tuesday> ok wait one more thing should i continue to use the standard 32 bi edition or should i try 64 with my athlon 63 proccessor?
[01:56] <jasin> variant, i'm sorry but you just do not know what you are talking about, configuration files are not programs, software.
[01:56] <tuesday> *64
[01:56] <Haekke> Flannel: ok thanks sounds good. Think ill do that instead of a upgrade :D
[01:56] <_doppelganger_> variant: it's get to about 15%, then says it failed to format
[01:56] <arentoine> indecision : If this is true (wired doesn't show activity) it's too bad.  I'll have to put back the old applet then ...
[01:56] <SaveFerris> jrib: i found ~/.config/autostart/Beryl.desktop now do i just delete the whole thing?
[01:56] <jrib> SaveFerris: yes
[01:56] <_doppelganger_> i just had linux mint running smoothly a day before
[01:56] <magnetron> !doesn't work > coulil
[01:56] <variant> jasin: ok mate, you are right. well done
[01:56] <variant> _doppelganger_: thats all it says?
[01:57] <variant> _doppelganger_: have you tried running hte installer again?
[01:57] <_doppelganger_> that's a "off the top of my head" response, let me reboot and give it another shot
[01:57] <ajehuk> g35 - no that looks good
[01:57] <covOPprometheus> elpargo, you know how I could fix it? I mean, how to modify a package?
[01:57] <tuesday> does the 64 work as well as the 32 on 7.04?
[01:57] <jasin> variant, Most bugs arise from mistakes and errors made by people in either a program's source code or its design, and a few are caused by compilers producing incorrect code.
[01:57] <Whisperkiller> finally got my hard drive to boot....silly me i had the jumper set wrong on it :P
[01:57] <ajehuk> g35 launched it in xterm as  xtightvncviewer <IP_ADDRESS>::443
[01:57] <NemesisD> jrib, ok it definitely doesn't like vesa
[01:57] <variant> _doppelganger_: you should be able to connect to the internet and use irc from the live cd.. drop by when you are in the live cd
[01:57] <g35> ah
[01:57] <g35> ::
[01:57] <jrib> NemesisD: hmm ok.  Well what driver were you using before the one you have now?
[01:58] <Flannel> tuesday: Yeah.  The only issues you might have is binary-only stuff, like flash.
[01:58] <arentoine> Is anyone currently using Festy with a wired connection showing activity on their network icon (top right conner) ??
[01:58] <_doppelganger_> varient: will do
[01:58] <elpargo> covOPprometheus, sadly is different for each one, maybe it's just a wrong URL it's trying to fetch and hangging there ....
[01:58] <Whisperkiller> variant i was in irc all day yesterday from the livecd because i was having an issue with my hard drive not booting
[01:58] <darx> libata sucks bigtime
[01:58] <tuesday> so i wont be able to use flash :-:
[01:58] <NemesisD> jrib, i was using the standard i8l0 but it didn't support the proper resolution for my monitor
[01:58] <latoo> arentoine: you mean network manager?
[01:58] <darx> i can't tweak my harddrive
[01:58] <g35> ajehuk, bueaty it was the :: i was using :
[01:58] <variant> Whisperkiller: good job
[01:58] <g35> thanks :-D
[01:58] <jrib> NemesisD: well try to see if the error happens with that one, just to trouble shoot
[01:58] <eck> darx: it could be the case that it does it by default now, how do you know it is doing 16 bit transfer?
[01:58] <ajehuk> g35 - no probs
[01:59] <BeauGeste> i have a problem getting kdm to start on boot with feisty
[01:59] <barbarella_me> _doppelganger_:what kind hd you have. ata, sata or scsi?
[01:59] <arentoine> latoo : I get so, it's currently in french
[01:59] <samk> whoever helped me it worked
[01:59] <darx> eck: thats what hdparm/sdparm says
[01:59] <arentoine> latoo : I gess so, it's currently in french
[01:59] <gumjo> when I try to run emerald in terminal it says: emerald: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"
[01:59] <gumjo> whats wrong?
[01:59] <NemesisD> jrib, okay and is it i8l0 (little L) or is it i810?
[01:59] <latoo> arentoine: the network manager is there by default, doesn't show activity. there's a separate monitor applet
[01:59] <BeauGeste> I reboot, it gets to command line, i have to reinstall the nvidia drivers and then retart kdm
[01:59] <g35> ajehuk, how do i do 256 colors?
[02:00] <arentoine> latoo : ok then ... this is somewhat misleading ...
[02:00] <NemesisD> nm i think i got it
[02:00] <BeauGeste> then it works until next reboot
[02:00] <BeauGeste> when i have to repeat the process
[02:00] <darx> eck: how can i revert to the normal ide drivers?
[02:00] <Jordan_U> BeauGeste, How did you install the nvidia driver?
[02:00] <arentoine> latoo : thanks for the info
[02:00] <indecision> so, does anyone know about Feisty (or heck, Edgy) and the ATI restricted drivers (Radeon 9700 Pro), and getting resolutions above 1152x864 to work?  I've had no luck.
[02:00] <phealy> So I've got the 7.04 livecd. I have a dell inspiron 6400, core 2 duo proc, ati radion x1300. when I boot the livecd, X segfaults. any suggestions?
[02:00] <Alonea> how do you blacklist a module?
[02:00] <eck> darx: i know there is a patch to make hdparm work with libata, i am not sure if it is applied in ubuntu
[02:01] <AimeSiSolArt> good night all
[02:01] <AimeSiSolArt> bye
[02:01] <Jordan_U> !blacklist | Alonea
[02:01] <BeauGeste> as in get to the command line and type sudo sh ./NVIDIA.......
[02:01] <ubotu> Alonea: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u
[02:01] <eck> darx: nm, i think it was applied upstream already
[02:01] <Alonea> thanks Jordan_U, I could not remember where the file that I was supposed to edit was
 pastebin?
[02:02] <hyperspace> can i kill a remote dist-upgrade (from gui)that gave up on fetching after max retries and restart with a dist-upgrade via console?
[02:02] <darx> eck: hmm..thanks anyway.. i'll see if it helps..:)
[02:02] <indecision> phealy: I'd say it's either loading the wrong video driver, or you've got bad RAM.  if it's the driver, then installing ubuntu with the "alternate" CD might just work.  if it's the RAM, you'll want to replace it.
[02:02] <variant> BeauGeste: that is not the reccomended way to install the nvidia drivers
[02:02] <variant> !nvidia | BeauGeste
[02:02] <ubotu> BeauGeste: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:02] <Rkyraccoon55> can somebody help me with desktop effects?
[02:02] <phealy> indecision: regular vesa driver, and the RAM's good according to memtest.
[02:02] <Jordan_U> BeauGeste, Did the drivers from the repositories not work? Did you blacklist the ones from the repositories?
[02:02] <jasin> indecision, have you tried the radeon drivers for linux? see: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[02:03] <variant> BeauGeste: they should be installed with ubuntu package manager.. this will ensure they are set up correctly
[02:03] <indecision> jasin: I've only tried with the drivers offered by Feisty's restricted driver manager
[02:03] <keithstabins> exit
[02:03] <darx> eck: libata sucks nevertheless
[02:03] <variant> indecision: that is hte best way to install them
[02:03] <jasin> indecision, ok
[02:03] <denicola> barbarella_me: pastebin?
[02:03] <NemesisD> jrib, i figured out what it was, beryl
[02:03] <ajehuk> g35 I was going to say -depth but thet isnt doing anthing at this end....
[02:03] <root__> I can only get Ubuntu running by using grub to select recovery mode and then running startx, if I just let it boot normally, I get a black screen.   Any ideas?
[02:03] <BeauGeste> Jordan_U, no, its just i could not get the display manager up until i did this
[02:04] <indecision> variant: by the restricted manager, I assume you mean?
[02:04] <BeauGeste> variant, i will look at that
[02:04] <variant> indecision: you might have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to add the extra resolutions
[02:04] <bitmess> What will convert DivX to DVD and burn it?
[02:04] <variant> indecision: yep
[02:04] <g35> ajehuk, hmmmm
[02:04] <jasin> indecision,  give them a try.
[02:04] <eck> darx: tell that to alan cox :-)
[02:04] <Jordan_U> BeauGeste, I mean, why did you install the drivers from Nvidia.com in the first place?
[02:04] <variant> BeauGeste: there is a dvd authoring program.. qtdvdauthor or something
[02:04] <indecision> variant: I tried that, but the resolutions never showed up in System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[02:04] <variant> bitmess:  there is a dvd authoring program.. qtdvdauthor or something
[02:05] <vustar> eck: who's Alan Cax ?
[02:05] <barbarella_me> !pastebin | denicola
[02:05] <ubotu> denicola: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:05] <mtm8> I want to automate commands in a chroot, is that possible? For example, in a chrooted environment, I want to be able to apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[02:05] <TokenBad> ok I have the install going to do a dual boot with windows 2000 and am at the partition part and it keeps telling me
[02:05] <mtm8> barbarella_me: !pastebin > nickname works without sending out spam to the channel, just fyi
[02:05] <BeauGeste> i did it on edgy before i upgraded to fiesty to try and get beryl to work
[02:05] <TokenBad> no root system defined
[02:05] <variant> indecision: annoying. you can set the default resolution in xorg.conf and that should make the gui program irrelevent
[02:05] <TokenBad> and I have the partition I want it installed to picked...
[02:06] <eck> vustar: the author of libata and one of the kernel developers (he has a wikipedia article)
[02:06] <variant> TokenBad: you need to set a partition to be mounted as "/"
[02:06] <ilreds> how can i obtain the size of my disk blocks?
[02:06] <jrib> NemesisD: ah, that's kind of weird
[02:06] <variant> TokenBad: and that can't be ntfs/fat
[02:06] <vustar> eck, what is libata ?
[02:06] <TokenBad> variant, I have ext3 partition picked...
[02:06] <Whisperkiller> im selecting packages now but i wish there was a profile i could select under package installer
[02:06] <Alonea> Oh! Is the shutdown problems fixed in fiesty? The ones in relation to fglrx and ati video cards?
[02:06] <vustar> eck, ;)
[02:06] <indecision> variant: I'll give it a shot, I suppose.  I did try with a custom modeline, but it forced my monitor into 95hz, which it wasn't happy about.  Next time I feel like messing with it, I'll see if setting the default resolution works.
[02:06] <ajehuk> g35 - actually thats really wierd - the colour depth doesnt change regardless of what I set...
[02:07] <_doppelganger_> varient: would you rather me launch gparted and give you screenshots, or do the typical ubuntu install and show you the exact message? maybe gparted would shed some light on the situation
[02:07] <NemesisD> jrib, i know, that bums me out because i want to continue using beryl
[02:07] <eck> vustar: if you are interested https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks
[02:07] <Haekke> Is there a "lite" version of ubuntu without all that preinstalled stuff in
[02:07] <barbarella_me> mtm8:yes you can automate commands, it depends from wich user you chroot
[02:07] <latoo> Haekke: there's a mini.iso (10MB) which installs over network
[02:07] <Jordan_U> Haekke, Yes, You want the ubuntu-minimal install CD
[02:08] <vustar> eck, :)
[02:08] <Jordan_U> !install | Haekke
[02:08] <ubotu> Haekke: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[02:08] <TokenBad> variant, I can take a screenshot and put it somewhere if I need to so you can see
[02:08] <Pelo> Haekke,  there is  xubuntu make to work on older comps, but I donT think that 's what you mean,   I know there is a meta package called  ubuntu-minium or something similar but I donT' know how you install it on its own
[02:08] <NemesisD> jesus why is totem even included with ubuntu, it can't play anything
[02:08] <indecision> ok, here's an easy Xchat question...can I get the join/part messages out of the channel window?
[02:08] <variant> _doppelganger_: run the installer (ubiquity) from a terminal with sudo and hopefully that will give some more output
[02:08] <Pelo> NemesisD,  you need the codecs
[02:09] <Pelo> !codecs > NemesisD   check your pm window
[02:09] <NemesisD> Pelo, yeah i know, but its kinda silly that it can't play anything out of the box pretty much
[02:09] <variant> TokenBad: i beleive you, strange that the installer doesn't htough :)
[02:09] <drew> anyone familiar with fijrefox settings in ubuntu?
[02:09] <concept10> NemesisD, I ask the same question everyday
[02:09] <TokenBad> variant, but maybe I am doing something wrong
[02:09] <hyperspace> can i kill a remote dist-upgrade (from gui)that gave up on fetching after max retries and restart with a dist-upgrade via console?
[02:09] <variant> TokenBad: probably :)
[02:09] <TokenBad> like have something checked or unchecked
[02:09] <indecision> drew: which settings?
[02:09] <Haekke> Its not like its for a slow pc, I just see so many things that I dont need, games, office ect and maybe alot of other stuff (running servies for god knows what) which I dont need for running a file server
[02:09] <Hubris> <-- feeling dumb here....I've downloaded a .deb package that's older than what's installed....what's the syntax to force it to install?  The gui-based installer refuses...as it's older.
[02:09] <BeauGeste> how do you get to the restricted repositories from kubuntu?
[02:09] <variant> hyperspace: killall applicationname
[02:09] <Pelo> NemesisD,  it's not totem,s fault it's because of  canonical's policy toward proprietary software
[02:09] <TokenBad> variant, which is why said could do a sreenshot
[02:09] <NemesisD> oh
[02:10] <NemesisD> but blaming it on totem makes me feel like a big man
[02:10] <hyperspace> variant: killed it
[02:10] <variant> TokenBad: sorry, i'm at work and should be doing some
[02:10] <ajehuk> NemesisD 0 concept10 - by 'play anything' I assume you mean stuff that relies on a codec that cannot normally be distributed?
[02:10] <Pelo> Hubris,   man dpkg
[02:10] <latoo> Hubris: if there's a dependency issue, forcing it is not possible
[02:10] <drew> indecision, im looking to make popups open in new tab, not new window, and i want to turn off firefox from playing any type of videos in the browser
[02:10] <hyperspace> variant: question was really if its possible
[02:10] <NemesisD> ajehuk, mpg files
[02:10] <Haekke> Jordan_U: where can I find that minimal install? cant seem to find it
[02:10] <tripsync> hi, I have a question...I added a modeline in my xorg.conf to add 1440x900, and it works if I don't have the nvidia driver, but if I install it and add the modeline again it doesn't work...I would like both so I can use OpenGL stuff such as Beryl...is there a way around this?
[02:10] <variant> hyperspace: now you know
[02:10] <concept10> ajehuk, what I primarily mean is Real Player and 32bit floating point .wav files
[02:10] <NemesisD> ok now this is bothering me, beryl seems to be preventing ANY video files from playing
[02:10] <vustar> why does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyKnownIssues redirect to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/704 ?
[02:11] <ajehuk> NemesisD mpeg 2 is under patent so tht could be it...
[02:11] <disinterested> is there no way to get gnome-ppp package to get the modem configured on a new install?
[02:11] <variant> NemesisD: you need to set the default output plugin
[02:11] <denicola> barbarella_me: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16703/
[02:11] <indecision> drew: for the first one, if the setting in Edit->Preferences->Tabs doesn't do it for you, you might want to install an extension like Tabbrowser
[02:11] <concept10> If totem can't handle Real Player, my question is why the heck does it open them?
[02:11] <Jordan_U> !minimal | Haekke
[02:11] <ubotu> Haekke: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[02:11] <Pelo> Haekke,  I 'M not sure  might be part of the server edition,  I just saw the pakcage name when I was doing a search in ubuntu.com
[02:11] <NemesisD> variant, ah ok, how do i do that?
[02:11] <hyperspace> variant: lol, no, i already knew how to kill
[02:11] <retry> eck
[02:11] <retry> you still here?
[02:11] <Pelo> Haekke,   http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all&keywords=ubuntu-minimal&sourceid=mozilla-search
[02:11] <ajehuk> NemesisD - concept10 - As I understand it (and anyone correct me If I am wrong) by default Ubuntu doesnt provide stuff that cannot be distributed with the source, and the codex are either closed / patent encumbered etc..
[02:12] <variant> NemesisD: run gstreamer-properties and set the default video output plugin to be "X window System (No Xv)"
[02:12] <drew> indecision, ok, any idea how to turn off from video to play in browser? i want totem to open by default.
[02:12] <kneeki> If I wanted to use SSH from one PC to another, I just need the service installed on both PC's, and do a 'ssh username:IPaddress' ?
[02:12] <retry> mysound card issue ..even though it's a hardware/kernel module issue...it's WORKING in xubuntu
[02:12] <retry> only ubuntu has the trouble
[02:12] <variant> NemesisD: then they will work (if you are using gstreamer backend)
[02:12] <lunar> hi
[02:12] <Haekke> Jordan_U, Pelo: thanks alot both
[02:12] <Dante123> 	some typos and out of date info on the download page....it says: Learn how to verify that your CD download ok
[02:12] <eck> retry: weird
[02:12] <retry> that seems contrary to me
[02:12] <retry> to the idea of xubu/ubu/kubu
[02:12] <Dante123> should be: ....how to verify that your CD download is ok.....and the link to : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM only has the MD5SUM for up to version 6.10......
[02:12] <variant> kneeki: you only need sshd installed on the server you are connecting to
[02:12] <concept10> ajehuk, Ive understood that for years.. But the MIME needs to be fixed
[02:12] <indecision> drew: Haven't had to do it myself, but I bet you want to look in Edit->Preferences->Content.  Click the "Manage" button near "File Types"
[02:12] <lunar> who knows how to play mp3files
[02:12] <kneeki> variant, Oh, I see.
[02:12] <retry> lunar use an mp3 player
[02:12] <variant> kneeki: and it's ssh username@ipaddress
[02:12] <drew> indecision, ok thx
[02:13] <concept10> ajehuk, I currently can't watch my news over the net because I cant "catch" the links in firefox
[02:13] <retry> i like #/> play mp3file.mp3
[02:13] <Dante123> i expect better from Ubuntu.........sure typos can be minor....but if there are typos on publicly viewed pages for new users....you worry about code too....
[02:13] <lunar> mp player cann't use
[02:13] <NemesisD> variant, ok i did that but it's still happening for some reason
[02:13] <elpargo> lunar, you will probably need the extra codecs  which player you have?
[02:13] <kneeki> variant, Ahh. Ok! Do I have to have an account already on that PC, or can I just type in whatever?
[02:13] <Pelo> !mp3 > lunar check your pm window
[02:13] <lunar> mplayer
[02:13] <BeauGeste> how do you get to add the restricted repositories in kubuntu using adept manager?
[02:13] <variant> NemesisD: are you using gstreamer or some other backend?
[02:13] <disinterested> how would i get the gnome-ppp package to install the modem on a different pc?
[02:13] <knix_> How does nxserver work?
[02:13] <variant> kneeki: you need a user account on the remote system
[02:13] <eck> retry: i don't know much about alsa, but maybe you could use alsactl to save the configuration in xubuntu and then try using it to reload that configuration in ubuntu?
[02:14] <denicola> Help needed, please! Feisty can't install grub properly because it identifies my hda as sdb (I also have a sata drive, identified as sda). Edgy had no problem with this: Grub was installed on hd0.
[02:14] <Dante123> what is the md5sum for the 7.04 i386 regular
[02:14] <ajehuk> concept10 - cant say Ive had that troube but that may have more to do with the websites I use :)
[02:14] <Pelo> lunar,  the default audio player in ubuntu is rhythmbox,  but you sill need to add the mp3 support
[02:14] <kneeki> variant, Ah, okay. Thanks for the info!
[02:14] <retry> eck, but the prob is before alsa
[02:14] <retry> the card is not getting detected by the system on boot
[02:14] <variant> NemesisD: apt-get install totem-gstreamer
[02:14] <retry> it goes to load the kernel module and it freaks out with errors
[02:14] <NemesisD> variant, i don't know, beryl settings manager says flatfile
[02:14] <lunar> how to do this
[02:14] <retry> no such prob in xubuntu
[02:14] <NemesisD> variant, ok ill do that, sec
[02:14] <ajehuk> concept10 - cant say I have had any issue with mime-types either actually..
[02:14] <variant> NemesisD: it's nothing to do with beryl
[02:14] <eck> retry: doesn't xubuntu load the same kernel?
[02:14] <Pelo> BeauGeste,   have you tried asking in #kubuntu ,  they are more familiar with the kde ins and outs then we are here
[02:14] <retry> eck, that's what I assume
[02:14] <variant> NemesisD: i have 4 mins battery power left :/
[02:15] <NemesisD> variant, says i have the newest version
[02:15] <NemesisD> oh god
[02:15] <lunar> i cann't get infomation about this
[02:15] <retry> but my results here are showing a weird difference
[02:15] <BeauGeste> thanks for that Pelo
[02:15] <variant> NemesisD: sorry!
[02:15] <retry> unless something else is the root cause
[02:15] <ajehuk> concept10 - Oh except trying to open txt files with oocalc - but thats a different issue
[02:15] <NemesisD> argh thanks for trying ill ask around
[02:15] <retry> I dunno what to tell you though
[02:15] <variant> NemesisD: left my adapter at home :S
[02:15] <retry> since I'm booting off live cds here
[02:15] <Pelo> BeauGeste,  don'T mention it , ever, they'll all want one
[02:15] <variant> NemesisD: np
[02:15] <NemesisD> :/ been there
[02:15] <retry> Im not changing anything that would stay
[02:15] <variant> gonna power off, cya NemesisD gl
[02:15] <snowpunk98> Can anyone tell me how to make it so VLC plays DVD instead of Totem, also can anyone tell me why the video looks so bad, its like theres horizontal lines through it
[02:16] <ubuntu_noob> hello, just a simple question.. how do I set mplayer as the default player ?
[02:16] <eck> retry: well i am mystified
[02:16] <variant> snowpunk98: ln -sf /usr/bin/vlc /usr/bin/totem (WILL COMPLETELY REPLACE TOTEM WITH VLC UNTILL YOU NEXT UPDATE THE SYSTEM)
[02:16] <Pelo> snowpunk98,  borked  dvd maybe ?   you can change the default player in  system > prets > removable media
[02:16] <elpargo> snowpunk98, ahh yes go to the file type in nautilus click properties then openwith
[02:16] <elpargo> variant, WTF! are you mad
[02:16] <ajehuk> variant - lol that will work but is that really the best way?
[02:16] <denicola> IDE drive mistaken for SCSI...
[02:16] <eck> variant: you've got to be kidding me
[02:17] <retry> eck, it makes me wonder if there is some bug in ubu feisty
[02:17] <nowisn> help installing ubuntu, I have a unallocated space of 51 gig but i'm not sure how to set it up, i'm in the prepare partions window of ubuntu now??
[02:17] <variant> elpargo: no, there is no system wide way to set the default player for all apps. it's a pita to do it one by one so that way works fine
[02:17] <elpargo> of course it will work but it's a stupid morronic thing to do
[02:17] <variant> elpargo: why?
[02:17] <magnetron> ubuntu_noob: don't listen to him
[02:17] <nowisn> can someone pm if possible for help
[02:17] <variant> elpargo: give me one good reason why that is a bad idea?
[02:17] <eck> retry: the fact that it doesn't work isn't too surprising, there are a number of bugs for feisty in LP, but the fact that it would work in xubuntu is beyond me
[02:17] <Pelo> retry,  we know there are bugs in fiesty,  the fun is figureing out where they are
[02:17] <ajehuk> nowisn - what would you like to know?
[02:17] <ubuntu_noob> magnetron, don't listen to whom ?
[02:17] <elpargo> variant, then that means ubuntu needs a widget to change that but making your system like that is not good.
[02:18] <lunar> what i need to do  to play the mp3files?
[02:18] <variant> elpargo: of course it's not ideal. it is certainly not moronic though. you just didn't think about it before saying that.
[02:18] <elpargo> variant, well lets start by breaking totem, second it's not permanent, and third is misleading
[02:18] <Jordan_U> variant, Because automated things will try to pass arguments to mplayer thinking it's totem
[02:18] <moDumass> !xorg.conf
[02:18] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:18] <variant> Jordan_U: name one
[02:18] <elpargo> variant, no that's stupid and you shouldn't give out that advice to people that don't know what their are doing
[02:18] <magnetron> ubuntu_noob: right-click on a media file and choose too always open the file with the player of your choice
[02:19] <variant> elpargo: idealy it would be better to have a /usr/bin/mediaplayer that was a symlink to your prefered player
[02:19] <ajehuk> elpargo - does what was asked though - someone with more of a GUI method should offer analternative tho
[02:19] <variant> elpargo: not at all
[02:19] <nowisn> its saying i need to allocate space for a swap and 2 gig for primary
[02:19] <nowisn> does this not create it on its own
[02:19] <snowpunk98> variant, Thank you that did it and VLC looks a lot better
[02:19] <Jordan_U> variant, The gnome whatever that plays removable media like DVD's when inserted
[02:19] <variant> elpargo: if you can offer an alternative that isin't laborious and annoying please do
[02:19] <Jordan_U> variant, It will pass "%M" to mplayer
[02:19] <elpargo> variant, no ideally they will add an entry to update-alternatives if that is what you mean
[02:19] <magnetron> snowpunk98: right-click on a media file and choose too always open the file with the player of your choice
[02:19] <variant> snowpunk98: good job, note the dislike for the idea from others though. remember you wil lhave to redo it next time you update
[02:19] <eck> nowisn: you cannot install ubuntu if you have not given it any space to install to
[02:20] <underwatercow> is there a better partitioner available other than gparted?
[02:20] <underwatercow> :-p
[02:20] <eck> nowisn: hence the request for 2 GB of space
[02:20] <mike123> how do i install ati drivers
[02:20] <variant> Jordan_U: mplayer is not even part of the quesiton or solution so what are you meaning?
[02:20] <elpargo> variant, change each file, it's a one time thing while your will break a lot
[02:20] <variant> ahh.. batter dead :/ finnish arg next time :)
[02:20] <variant> elpargo: it wont break ANYTHING
[02:20] <ubuntu_noob> magnetron, doesn't have that option ? isn't that the m$ feature= =?
[02:20] <snowpunk98> Eh so
[02:20] <snowpunk98> sok
[02:20] <eck> underwatercow: of course, it's called fdisk ;-)
[02:20] <snowpunk98> Ill just redo it when I update
[02:20] <variant> elpargo: except totem, which he doesn't want anyway
[02:20] <snowpunk98> no biggie
[02:20] <elpargo> variant, yes it will Jordan_U just told you
[02:20] <underwatercow> eck: lol, that's not funny
[02:21] <variant> elpargo: Jordan_U is mistaken too..
[02:21] <Jordan_U> variant, s/mplayer/totem/g
[02:21] <Jestre> Do I need to have special drivers to allow the Feisty CD to boot if I have an ATI video card?
[02:21] <variant> Jordan_U: ok
[02:21] <jrib> NemesisD: try mplayer -vo x11  and see if it still crashes
[02:21] <Jordan_U> variant, s/mplayer/vlc/g ;)
[02:21] <elpargo> variant, and you said it yourself it will break next time you update totem
[02:21] <ajehuk> nowisn : what eck said, althogh if you have 51G of free space that should be showing - are there any partitions listed of that size?
[02:21] <kalifornia909> can someone help me with a software raid install
[02:21] <ciscosurfer> Jestre: you shouldn't...
[02:21] <johnsonwe> Can anybody recommend a channel for getting wireless setup on feisty fawn?
[02:21] <elpargo> variant, just don't mislead people ok
[02:21] <magnetron> ubuntu_noob: i use the swedish ubuntu, but is called somethin like "preferences"
[02:21] <ajehuk> johnsonwe - this one.
[02:21] <Jordan_U> johnsonwe, Right here :)
[02:22] <eck> underwatercow: i think gparted/qtparted are just graphical interfaces for fdisk/mkfs anyway, so i don't know how they would be made much better
[02:22] <jrib> NemesisD: (and try other -vo stuff if it does)
[02:22] <Jordan_U> johnsonwe, What card?
[02:22] <ciscosurfer> johnsonwe: have you checked Ubuntu Forums for some answers?
[02:22] <Jestre> ciscosurfer: Thanks...  X won't display when I boot and try to install
[02:22] <magnetron> ubuntu_noob: there is a tab called "open with"
[02:22] <_lemsx1_> can somebody tell me what nvidia_new is used for? (driver)
[02:22] <elpargo> variant, if your insist in giving out your broken advice please point out it's a bad idea but works....
[02:22] <kalifornia909> !software raid
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about software raid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <cellojoe> what's the location for the software sources list?
[02:22] <magnetron> !lvm
[02:22] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[02:22] <tripsync> hi, I have a question...I added a modeline in my xorg.conf to add 1440x900, and it works if I don't have the nvidia driver, but if I install it and add the modeline again it doesn't work...I would like both so I can use OpenGL stuff such as Beryl...is there a way around this?
[02:22] <underwatercow> eck: isn't fdisk a dos program? lol
[02:22] <ubuntu_noob> magnetron, but it doesn't set as default tho...
[02:22] <mike123> does anyone have a noob guide to ubuntu to install stuff ?
[02:22] <_lemsx1_> msg ubotu
[02:22] <elpargo> eck, it takes care of most of the parameters that people screw up :)
[02:22] <jrib> cellojoe: /etc/apt/sources.list~
[02:22] <jrib> cellojoe: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:22] <ciscosurfer> Jestre: can you get to a command line?
[02:22] <nowisn> okay so now i clicked on create new partion, do i create as primary and use ext3??
[02:22] <cellojoe> thanks jrib
[02:22] <boricua> after several years i still find the default theme ugly super ugly why has ubuntu  kept it for so many years like that.....  i mean the distro is great but this brown color looks like ups :-)
[02:22] <ajehuk> underwatercow - not in this case. no
[02:22] <elpargo> underwatercow, no fdisk was copied by dos
[02:23] <magnetron> ubuntu_noob: in that tab, you can MAKE IT default
[02:23] <johnsonwe> I'm running kubuntu on a Dell XPS M1210 laptop. Wireless works fine on home network, but not at work, where PEAP is in use.  that's what I need help with
[02:23] <Jordan_U> _lemsx1_, apt-cache show nvidia-glx-new
[02:23] <underwatercow> learn something new every day
[02:23] <Jestre> ciscosurfer: No
[02:23] <elpargo> underwatercow, in fact windows fdisks blows compared to unix
[02:23] <eck> underwatercow: it is a unix command, i'd imagine that it predates the windows version as well
[02:23] <_lemsx1_> Jordan_U: thanks
[02:23] <koala> when apache is installed, where is the main web directory located (sorry if nub question)
[02:23] <Jestre> ciscosurfer: Laptop has Edgy on it now, and I could get to that one, but I want to do a clean install
[02:23] <Jordan_U> mike123, Open Applications -> Add Remove :)
[02:23] <vustar> !feisty
[02:23] <ubuntu_noob> magnetron, nope it doesn't :P
[02:23] <ubotu> FEISTY IS OUT! Party in #ubuntu-release-party - Torrent downloads at http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ - Metalinks (use with Aria2 or, under Windows, GetRight) at http://download.packages.ro/metalink/ubuntu/
[02:23] <Flannel> koala: /var/www
[02:23] <elpargo> koala, /var/www
[02:23] <moDumass> hmm, im trying to get my desktop to redrawq properly, sometimes it stops drawing windows frames and the contents are black at others, ive heard that editing the option "backingstore" and setting it to "True" may fix this, but im perusing xorg.conf and it is not there
[02:23] <koala> ty
[02:23] <moDumass> any ideas
[02:23] <ciscosurfer> Jestre: what happens when you hit the key combo CTRL-ALT-F1 (or F1 thru F6....F7 will bring you back to default)
[02:24] <underwatercow> eck, elpargo: the one thing I like about Vista is it's partitioner... You can expand or shrink volumes easily
[02:24] <eck> elpargo: exactly, what more could you ask for?
[02:24] <ajehuk> johnsonwe - ah one of the easy wireless questions... :) - gve me a moment
[02:24] <magnetron> ubuntu_noob: not rightclick>open with , rightclick > PREFERENCES >open with
[02:24] <Jestre> ciscosurfer: That's what I tried, nothing happens
[02:24] <koala> is there a way to install it locally to a /home/users directory like, public_html folder?
[02:24] <kalifornia909> that raid link is for people with linux installed already
[02:24] <ciscosurfer> Jestre: hmmm...
[02:24] <latoo> underwatercow: Ubuntu has gparted which does the same
[02:24] <elpargo> underwatercow, ehh I'm sorry to say this but UNIX had that YEARS ago.
[02:24] <kalifornia909> i want to install to a raid array
[02:24] <Flannel> koala: yeah.  Make ~/public_html and put stuff there
[02:24] <eck> underwatercow: i have not used it, how does it differ from the same functionality in gparted?
[02:24] <Jestre> ciscosurfer: If I change the F4-VGA to something unusual, I'll eventually get an Xserver crashed message
[02:24] <ciscosurfer> Jestre: have you tried an alternate install CD?
[02:24] <Flannel> koala: then browse to http://whatever/~username
[02:24] <seven5_> hi guys, i just threw fiesty on my asus pundit barebones with a geforce 6 card on board, and used automatix to install vlc, and i can't get it to play any videos, xvid or mkv. Is there anything known about this problem? is there a common workaround or anything, or am i a special case.....
[02:24] <magnetron> !vista
[02:24] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[02:24] <underwatercow> I had issues with gparted complaining about everything being mounted
[02:24] <ubuntu_noob> magnetron, ah... right click open as ^^?
[02:25] <xiven> Hello
[02:25] <jorge_> is there like an official howto on getting vmware server running on feisty?
[02:25] <xiven> Has anyone tried using Gaim on Feisty?
[02:25] <elpargo> seven5_, yes automatix sucks
[02:25] <ajehuk> johnsonwe - how are you currently configuring your wireless?
[02:25] <nowisn> do i create my primary partion as filesyst ext3???
[02:25] <ciscosurfer> Jestre: interesting...
[02:25] <underwatercow> I just set up vmware today
[02:25] <Jack3> hi guys
[02:25] <elpargo> xiven, runing here...
[02:25] <magnetron> ubuntu_noob: not rightclick>open as , rightclick > PREFERENCES >open as
[02:25] <eck> underwatercow: of course, i doubt the vista installer lets you shrink a mounted FS
[02:25] <sdfasdfawef> xiven: works fine for me
[02:25] <latoo> underwatercow: you should not resize partitions while they're mounted :-) do it from the live cd
[02:25] <jorge_> underwatercow, server?
[02:25] <xiven> hmm
[02:25] <ajehuk> nowisn yep
[02:25] <Flannel> koala: Uh, the apache module that does that is enabled by default in dapper and edgy.  I'm unsure about feisty.  But it is most likely enabled
[02:25] <_lemsx1_> Jordan_U: nvidia_new is for anything newer than geforce4 ?
[02:25] <seven5_> elpargo: any suggestions ?
[02:25] <Jestre> ciscosurfer: Not yet... never had an issue, was wondering if something were different about these.. Kubuntu herd installed on my other one without issue
[02:25] <xiven> everytime i send a message on it, it crashes
[02:25] <Jack3> so its true ubuntu has NTFS read/write?
[02:25] <boricua> on the console where do i see all the pkgs installed
[02:25] <underwatercow> can you unmount a drive you are using though?
[02:25] <tmbg37> hi, I was wondering if anyone's been able to get a belkin 802.11g card or other rt61 device working on feisty
[02:25] <jrib> Jack3: yes, if you isntall ntfs-3g
[02:25] <Flannel> Jack3: in feisty, yes.  You just have to enable it
[02:25] <johnsonwe> ajehuk - I'll check back in - something came up here.  Later!
[02:25] <elpargo> seven5_, get rid of automatix and use the real package manager.
[02:25] <Jack3> thats pretty cool
[02:25] <magnetron> boricua: aptitude
[02:25] <ajehuk> Jack3 yeap, not sure how stable it is att
[02:25] <eck> underwatercow: no
[02:25] <xiven> It has a "core dump"..
[02:25] <ubuntu_noob> magnetron, wait... there's no open as in preference
[02:25] <seven5_> elpargo: ok i'll give it a go
[02:26] <jorge_> Flannel, enable it by installing ntfs-3g?
[02:26] <eck> underwatercow: you would use a live cd or run it from another partition
[02:26] <underwatercow> eck: so how would I resize my linux partition?
[02:26] <Jack3> hmm, its not that crap where you have to replace a blank file to write to it , is it?
[02:26] <magnetron> ubuntu_noob: if you click a media file it is
[02:26] <underwatercow> eck: ok, makes sense
[02:26] <underwatercow> eck: thanks
[02:26] <ajehuk> johnsonwe - kk
[02:26] <koala> and 1 last thing (i hope) :) -- what is the correct term \ command to install a media player software, for winam
[02:26] <koala> winamp* movie sort of buzz?
[02:26] <eck> underwatercow: the ubuntu install cd has gparted on it, so you can just use that one
[02:26] <latoo> underwatercow: just reboot with the live cd, partition manager is in the menu
[02:26] <ubuntu_noob> magnetron, lolz
[02:26] <xiven> a62c63e802c11411fb87c37-x86.cache-2
[02:26] <xiven> b4ae3000-b4ae5000 r--s 00000000 08:01 163231     /var/cache/fontconfAborted (core dumped)
[02:26] <kalifornia909> anyone install to blank raid array
[02:26] <ciscosurfer> Jestre: so here's what I suggest then (if Kubuntu was able to install okay)...install Kubuntu Feisty from CD and then add the ubunt-desktop package (that will pull in Gnome, etc.)....see if that works for you
[02:26] <xiven> stuff like that is what it says when it crashes
[02:26] <elpargo> koala, winamp doesn't exists in unix,
[02:27] <boricua> magnetron: is there a way to just ls all the pkgs or another way without jusing an app
[02:27] <ajehuk> kalifornia909 - are you talking software raid or actual hardware?
[02:27] <magnetron> boricua: aptitude
[02:27] <koala> i know, i mean like a media player\music player like it, ii think the codecs maybe
[02:27] <ciscosurfer> jestre: meant ubuntu-desktop NOT ubunt-desktop
[02:27] <underwatercow> eck, latoo: if I use the live CD, gparted will see my drives automatically?
[02:27] <_lemsx1_> Jordan_U: disregard my question. i found the answer
[02:27] <elpargo> koala, google for audio players they are 100s
[02:27] <Flannel> jorge_: no... uh, some other package.  ntfs-config, I believe.
[02:27] <latoo> underwatercow: yes
[02:27] <Jestre> ciscosurfer: Okay...  otherwise I can do a normal upgrade via the upgrade-manager if I have to
[02:27] <underwatercow> latoo: awesome, thanks...
[02:27] <jorge_> Flannel, ok, cool.
[02:27] <Jestre> ciscosurfer: Just that this'll be the third upgrade like that on this machine, and I wanted to start fresh
[02:27] <elpargo> koala, xmms is old but it resembles winamp3 although currently they are much better alternatives
[02:27] <Jestre> ciscosurfer: Thanks for the ideas
[02:27] <koala> for example? :)
[02:28] <eck> xiven: if you are feeling ambitious you can try to strace it and see what is crashing it
[02:28] <ciscosurfer> Jestre: if you do an upgrade, then read the documentation that ubuntu.com has provided...it explains the correct process you should follow to upgrade successfully
[02:28] <underwatercow> Has anyone else noticed that most of Vista's new features are from Linux and Mac, but implemented in a worse way?
[02:28] <jorge_> anyone have a nice howto on getting vmware server working under feisty?
[02:28] <elpargo> koala, google it :)
[02:28] <ciscosurfer> Jestre: sure! any time!
[02:28] <boricua> magnetron: i dont like apititude is there another way i can look like thru a dir
[02:28] <eck> xiven: probably one of the libraries it is using is borked, since it works for me
[02:28] <Jestre> ciscosurfer: Yeah, about the same as the Dapper -> Edgy upgrade I did on it
[02:28] <underwatercow> jorge_: it's not too hard, I can tell you how
[02:28] <xiven> HAH
[02:28] <Jestre> ciscosurfer: Thanks again
[02:28] <xiven> Figured it out
[02:28] <xiven> IT was "sounds"
[02:28] <jorge_> underwatercow: I'm listening
[02:28] <elpargo> koaL, no tons of articles comparing them on google.
[02:28] <mastroDani> hi there, i've upgraded Ubuntu to feisty yesterday: during the installation it tried to configure MD Array (RAID) on my laptop (???). at the end i rebooted and i found a black screen.. the nvidia proprietary driver didn't work anymore. no way to get them work.. i temporary switched to "nv" driver waiting a solution.. plus the system is became very slow: the load of the system it's always more then 2 and often go to
[02:28] <mastroDani> 5..... (even if i only install something through apt-get).. plus my hard drive was in /dev/hda.. now it is in /dev/sda.. it's not a SCSI disk.. so why this happened? i didn't like this!
[02:28] <latoo> boricua: look through a dir?
[02:28] <underwatercow> jorge_: it's going to be a quick lesson though as I need to go
[02:28] <magnetron> boricua: aptitude is curses-based
[02:28] <xiven> Obviously its caling aplay to play the sounds was screwing up all kinds of stuff, causing a crash
[02:29] <jorge_> underwatercow, shot
[02:29] <nibsa1242> Hello, I need some help. My computer hardlocked during upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04. Upon reboot it says:
[02:29] <koaL> cheers guys, much appreciated
[02:29] <jorge_> *shoot
[02:29] <underwatercow> you want the server, right?
[02:29] <boricua> latoo: yeah like ls /var/something
[02:29] <jorge_> underwatercow, yup
[02:29] <xiven> I feel smart now hehe
[02:29] <underwatercow> jorge_: You have to download the server from the website
[02:29] <ajehuk> koaL - for audio amarok is nice for video gxine is quite nice (but now people will disagree with me..)
[02:29] <xiven> I figured it out in 5 minutes
[02:29] <nibsa1242> waiting for root file system... .... ALERT /dev/sda5 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[02:29] <magnetron> boricua: other alternative is "man apt-get"
[02:29] <covOPprometheus> has anyone solved problems with wvdial in feisty??
[02:29] <underwatercow> jorge_: extract it and run the script
[02:29] <koaL> time 2 restart, thanks aje ;)
[02:29] <eck> mastroDani: remove the splash and quiet option from the grub line, boot it up, and see what is taking it so long
[02:29] <latoo> boricua: not sure what you want but try "apt-get search foo"
[02:29] <xiven> Feisty has Officially came out, correct?
[02:29] <Flannel> xiven: correct
[02:29] <eck> xiven: yes
[02:29] <nibsa1242> and then BusyBox c.1.1.3 .... Duilt in shell (ash)
[02:29] <xiven> Good.
[02:29] <magnetron> !feisty > xiven
[02:30] <jorge_> underwatercow: ....I know, but I want to use feisty's vmware server modules
[02:30] <underwatercow> jorge_: when you run the config script, it'll probably have an error
[02:30] <xiven> Would you IRc people stop with the bot commands
[02:30] <kbrooks> xiven, no.
[02:30] <neilmorrow> hi all
[02:30] <mastroDani> eck, it is not taking long on boot time.. it have an high load when i'm into the system
[02:30] <xiven> LOL
[02:30] <jorge_> underwatercow: ok, keep going..
[02:30] <underwatercow> jorge_: isn't that what I'm explaining?
[02:30] <xiven> I wrote a Chat Server in Python
[02:30] <underwatercow> jorge_: lol
[02:30] <boricua> k
[02:30] <kbrooks> xiven, we are addicted to bots.
[02:30] <xiven> Actually, ive written a chat server in C++,Java,Python,C#
[02:30] <mastroDani> eck, i think that something has gone horribly wrong during the update
[02:31] <nowisn> is the root partion the same as the primary???
[02:31] <nibsa1242> I just need some help... how do I fix my upgrade?
[02:31] <underwatercow> jorge_: if it has an error when you run the config, you'll probably have to download the vmware-any-any-update109.tar.gz
[02:31] <neilmorrow> anyone running 7.04 on apple hardware?
[02:31] <eck> mastroDani: check your log files, esp /var/log/messages
[02:31] <xiven> Im still not sure If i know enough of any of those to help in the Open Source world though
[02:31] <mava> Hola necesito ayuda.... alguien disponible?
[02:31] <J-_> Just install feisty, and man.. the sources list is already messed up. I cannot download any packages I want, just used source-o-matic to try and fix the problem and the PGP keys, I don't know how to add, it shows an example. But, it says the keys won't go in.
[02:31] <Rug> nowisn: no
[02:31] <magnetron> !doesn't work | nibsal242
[02:31] <ubotu> nibsal242: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[02:31] <underwatercow> jorge_:It has a runme.pl script that will fix the errors and let it install correctly
[02:31] <Jenn> how do I edit my grub boot load manager in ubuntu?
[02:31] <eck> mastroDani: also, the renaming of the disk was the change to libata, see this for details https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks
[02:31] <elpargo> xiven, either that's bull or your really tristed...
[02:31] <Gabz> is there a vm image of 7.04 out yet ?
[02:31] <radioaktivstorm> evening, im having all sorts of fun errors on my machine. (1) how can i get kde to stop overriding my gnome settings? I dont like kde and would like to be able to change my theme as i please. (2)  does anyone know of any reason why i would no longer be able to add users to my system?
[02:31] <ajehuk> neilmorrow - nah It wont run on my powerbook
[02:31] <magnetron> !grub | Jenn
[02:31] <ubotu> Jenn: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:31] <elpargo> mava, si pero en ingles :)
[02:32] <jorge_> underwatercow: ummm ok
[02:32] <ajehuk> neilmorrow - but then maybe I need something a bit more beefy than a 1400....
[02:32] <elpargo> Jenn, /boot if you know what your doing
[02:32] <underwatercow> jorge_: did that all make sense?
[02:32] <jorge_> yes
[02:32] <Jenn> magnetron, where do I type that?
[02:32] <ajehuk> kalifornia909 - where are you configuring your raid then?
[02:32] <underwatercow> jorge_: I used all defaults in the install and it worked fine
[02:32] <J-_> have any suggestions on my problem?
[02:32] <jorge_> underwatercow: I was reading a forum post with that info too
[02:32] <elpargo> radioaktivstorm, get rid of kde?
[02:32] <exs_> frostwire in the repos crashes for me after i enter the chat channel, why is this?
[02:32] <mava> mmm que nal... bueno gracias igualmente "elpargo"
[02:32] <Rug> nowisn: Primary partitions and Logical partitions are "physical" methods to dividing the space on a hard-drive
[02:32] <nibsa1242> Can any one help me. My update failed and my root partition can not be found (it says "does not exist") I'm at a command line with (initramfs)
[02:32] <magnetron> !grub  Jenn
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grub  jenn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <magnetron> !grub > Jenn
[02:33] <underwatercow> mmmmmm grub....
[02:33] <seven5_> elpargo: ok so that didn't fix it, theres something wrong with the video card i think, cause mplayer is reporting that there is an error selecting the video_out device... vlc opens, and looks to play the video, but its all black. And when i move the video window the screen tears, like just gets all messed up from teh vlc window
[02:33] <neilmorrow> ajehuk - i have a g4 ibook that i'm deeply considering dual booting
[02:33] <J-_> !sources
[02:33] <boricua_> very strange i just closed evolution and it closed xchat, firefox as well
[02:33] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:33] <Jenn> I just want to delete some of the old kernel that is listed on my grub screen....
[02:33] <sldkfj> I've got a good question;  Why does Ubuntu include the most drab fonts?
[02:33] <radioaktivstorm> elpargo, does that get rid of the permanent theme issue? cool, ill do it
[02:33] <elpargo> mava, /join #ubuntu-es
[02:33] <ajehuk> kalifornia909 - so you are configuring a single raid device that uses bot hdisks as raid0 - correct?
[02:33] <ajehuk> kalifornia909 - so you are configuring a single raid device that uses bot hdisks as raid0 - correct?/msg
[02:33] <sldkfj> and there are so many of them............. sheesh
[02:33] <Kamaria> Good evening
[02:33] <nowisn> is the root partion the same as the primary???
[02:33] <mava> elpargo muchas gracias por el dato
[02:33] <bitmess> Anyone here hate Vista?
[02:33] <nibsa1242> Jenn: old kernels don't take up much space
[02:33] <Kamaria> I got a problem again. XD
[02:34] <latoo> sldkfj: so install the fonts you like
[02:34] <ubuntu_noob> magnetron, muhahaha found the solution here: /usr/share/applications/defaults.list :P
[02:34] <sldkfj> the same fonts it's either sans/serif/ or mono
[02:34] <Pie-rate> have there been any problems upgrading to feisty? will it break anything?
[02:34] <gumjo> oti
[02:34] <Kamaria> How do I generate a new menu.lst file?
[02:34] <ajehuk> nowisn - not sure what you mean by that...
[02:34] <nibsa1242> My feisty upgrade caused a hard lock
[02:34] <sldkfj> latoo, yeah, why should it be like windows
[02:34] <boricua_> i see a lot of users with suffix _ after there name meaning xchat crashed on them anyone knows why xchat is crashing
[02:34] <elpargo> seven5_, ummm normally when I get that the video is corrupted or I didn't finish downloading, happens a lot with torrent files that I preview
[02:34] <sldkfj> I gotcha
[02:34] <eck> Kamaria: what is wrong with the current one? usually you would just make changes to that
[02:34] <sldkfj> makes sense to me.........
[02:34] <elpargo> seven5_, mostly wmv
[02:34] <nibsa1242> now my root part doesn not exist after fiesty upgrade
[02:34] <latoo> if you like windows fonts "sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts"
[02:34] <nibsa1242> and no one is helping me
[02:34] <seven5_> elpargo: nah, thats not it , i now for sure these work
[02:34] <ajehuk> nowisn 0 if you mean primary / logical partition then that has nothing to do with your root (/) filesystem as such
[02:34] <sooti> hi I enabled desktop effects in feisty and titlebar dissapeared
[02:34] <ubuntu_noob> magnetron, thanks for the help... highly appreciated
[02:34] <magnetron> ubuntu_noob, great now YOU have to hang around here answering the same question over and over again =)
[02:35] <nowisn> ubuntu is asking me to create a primary &swap and root partions
[02:35] <eck> nibsa1242: are you mounting by uuid?
[02:35] <elpargo> radioaktivstorm, hehe ok although I said that as a joke
[02:35] <radioaktivstorm> elpargo, lol i was gonna do it anyway
[02:35] <elpargo> seven5_, format?
[02:35] <kalifornia909>  does anyone have a nforce raid chipset
[02:35] <seven5_> elpargo: an xvid and an mkv
[02:35] <kalifornia909> !raid 0
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about raid 0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <ajehuk> kalifornia909 - but you are seeing two drives in ubuntu?
[02:35] <Kamaria> eck: I know, but I don't want to mess up. I did a whole lot of messing around with partitions and I'd prefer something do it automatically.
[02:35] <elpargo> radioaktivstorm, great getting rid of that is good :) make sure to uninstall kubuntu-desktop package
[02:35] <seven5_> elpargo: no video player will play them, but whats wierd is the error from mplayer, and the screen tearing from vlc
[02:35] <Jenn> on my grub boot loader - they is kernel generic and kernel 386. What's the deal here?
[02:35] <fiction> !codec
[02:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:36] <radioaktivstorm> elpargo, excellent.
[02:36] <boricua> !java
[02:36] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[02:36] <nowisn> i created a primary ext3 and a 512 swap partion, this is all i should need
[02:36] <ryanakca> why can't I access my box after going 'sudo iptables -F'?
[02:36] <elpargo> seven5_, ummm maybe they have copy protection?
[02:36] <elpargo> seven5_, run the file utility on them
[02:36] <seven5_> elpargo: no, i have played them millions of times, these arent new files
[02:36] <Jenn> on my grub boot loader - there is kernel generic and kernel 386. What's the deal here? Only Kernel generic works for me.
[02:36] <Kamaria> Okay, here's a different question.
[02:36] <magnetron> !firewall > ryanakca
[02:36] <Pie-rate> been thinking about trying devorak
[02:36] <fiction> Whenever i click a link in here, bluefish opens up. how do i make it so it opens up with firefox?
[02:36] <Pie-rate> dvorak*
[02:36] <eck> Kamaria: as long as you keep the old entries in it, you'll be fine
[02:36] <cables> Are there any disadvantages to using sun-java6-jre instead of sun-java5-jre?
[02:37] <sooti> anyone else have problems with compiz?
[02:37] <elpargo> seven5_, did they just stop working???
[02:37] <boricua> the bot topics have they been uptaded for 7.04 or still on edgy
[02:37] <cables> Pie-rate, I use dvorak, after a week or two it feels natural.
[02:37] <Kamaria> How do I move my MBR from one disc to the other?
[02:37] <radioaktivstorm> elpargo, would you happen to have any idea why i cannot add another desktop user to my computer? i just upgrated to fiesty this afternoon...there were a few errors
[02:37] <eck> Kamaria: because you would just be able to boot up with the old settings and fix any mistakes you made
[02:37] <Kamaria> Hard disc, that is.
[02:37] <elpargo> cables, most programs haven't been tested enough other then that no it's performance is great
[02:37] <kalifornia909> will gparted set a raid array ubuntu will recognize
[02:37] <latoo> sooti: everyone has problems with compiz, it's alpha
[02:37] <Pie-rate> i'd need to take my damn keyboard apart though =/
[02:37] <cables> Pie-rate, I didn't notice typing speed improvements, but i didn't have sore hands as often
[02:37] <ryanakca> magnetron: that doesn't help me.
[02:37] <cables> Pie-rate, no, just do it in software
[02:37] <Jenn> on my grub boot loader - there is kernel generic and kernel 386. What's the deal here? Only Kernel generic works for me. Should I remove kernel 386?
[02:37] <elpargo> radioaktivstorm, well errors happen :)
[02:37] <eck> Kamaria: you can't do that (well you _can_ but don't want to) because hte MBR stores the partition table
[02:37] <Pie-rate> then the key labels will be wrong
[02:38] <cables> Pie-rate, it's actually easier to learn if you're forced to not look at the keys...
[02:38] <ryanakca> magnetron: I don't have a monitor on my server, and I can't ssh into it. network on it is dead. how do I recover? pull the plug?
[02:38] <Pie-rate> orly?
[02:38] <cables> Pie-rate, but you're planning to learn to touch-type on Dvorak anyway, it shouldn't matter
[02:38] <cables> elpargo, thank you
[02:38] <magnetron> ryanakca: maybe you accidently made a rule to prohibit network traffic...
[02:38] <seven5_> elpargo: no, this is the first time i've actually even installed a gui onto this computer, it used to just be a server, its got an nforce chipset and a geforce 6 card on board. the video files have been played tons on other computers and my xbmc
[02:38] <latoo> ryanakca: serial cable? :-)
[02:38] <boricua> ryanakca: hit the monitor with a bat
[02:38] <break_> is there a place where i could download feisty at least a little faster than 100 KB/sec??
[02:38] <cables> break_, bittorrent
[02:38] <ryanakca> magnetron: sudo iptables -F         flushes all the iptables rules
[02:38] <break_> the tracker times out
[02:39] <shoot^> fellas, i have a Sony Erricson w810i, and under windows i tend to back up all my text messages etc to my pc. is there any software that lets you do stuff like that on linux?
[02:39] <magnetron> ryanakca: don't know if it will reset the filters on reboot
[02:39] <elpargo> ryanakca, well that is not a server :) and I suggest you attach a monitor cause that's the only way your getting into that box.
[02:39] <ajehuk> kalifornia909 - good thats the hardware doing the raid...
[02:39] <cables> break_, use uTorrent in Wine or Azureus and you don't need a tracker.
[02:39] <Kamaria> eck: Okay then, lol. What I'm trying to do right now is install Windows on the other hard disk, but I read on a forum that Windows tends not to like Linux's boot information and well...the install process crashes every time I try to boot from CD.
[02:39] <elpargo> break_, you are aware of how many people are trying to get that? 100kb is supper fast right now
[02:39] <break_> i'm on windows.
[02:39] <cables> Sun JRE is over 100 mb installed? Wow.
[02:39] <Kamaria> I'm thinking I might end up having to format Linux again.
[02:39] <break_> and if i didnt need a tracker, wouldnt it be downloading?
[02:39] <NemesisD> ok guys, for some reason when I use the Metacity window manager, i can play videos fine, but opening ANY video file whilst running Beryl causes the video to open then close abruptly
[02:39] <eck> Kamaria: it is fairly straightforward to reinstall grub after installing windows. Booting from a Cd is separate from grub
[02:40] <break_> ive had the torrent going for almost 20 minutes now
[02:40] <xiven> How well do I have to know C/C++/ect to write some code for the open source?
[02:40] <sooti> try it from different tracker, break. from the right source feisty has a lot of seeders
[02:40] <magnetron> elpargo: or maybe it is a very secure server? tight firewall... =)
[02:40] <elpargo> Kamaria, windows will probably kill your grub, stupid system...
[02:40] <latoo> break_: 100K isn't downloading?
[02:40] <cables> break_, you need to use a client that can work without a tracker. Like Azureus or uTorrent.
[02:40] <boricua> cables:agree huge
[02:40] <xiven> If I can write a chat server...do I know the language well enough?
[02:40] <break_> i'm using utorrent
[02:40] <cables> boricua, agree huge with what?
[02:40] <cables> break_, is DHT enabled?
[02:40] <kbrooks> xiven: no.
[02:40] <Kamaria> So I take it that it would be a good idea to install Windows on my first HD, and put Linux on the other
[02:40] <elpargo> +1 for latoo 100kb is very good speed
[02:40] <cables> break_, you might need to forward a port or something, because i can download fine without a tracker.
[02:40] <kbrooks> xiven, there is aa bigger test
[02:40] <eck> J-_: i'm not sure what it's called off the top of my head, but there's a standard debian tool to test the latency of all the apt mirrors and tell you which one is fastest
[02:40] <boricua> cables:sun java i am installlign it now
[02:40] <tripsync> anyone know how to get ubuntu to recognize my modeline in xorg.conf after I install the nvidia driver, or get opengl support with the nv one?
[02:40] <elpargo> Kamaria, yes indeed
[02:40] <xiven> What is that?
[02:40] <J-_> wth, im getting 404 not found!?
[02:41] <cables> boricua, yeah
[02:41] <boricua> cables:sucks
[02:41] <Pelo> break_,  be patient , it's worth the wait
[02:41] <elpargo> tripsync, install "envy" it will automatically do everything
[02:41] <Vanuatoo_> Ok, people. I've got AMD Athlon 3500+, ATI Radeon X850XT, Asus A8N-E. I had Windows XP Installed on my computer. I've installed Feisty in dual boot mode. When I run ubuntu it has random crashes, lockups and so on. I'm running with the kernel parameters -noapic -acpi=off. Does anyone experience the same?
[02:41] <latoo> tripsync: too little info
[02:41] <boricua> cables:does that put the plugin automaticly or i need to do the softlink
[02:41] <elpargo> Vanuatoo_, why acpi off??
[02:41] <Kamaria> elpargo: Lol, Ubuntu ate my Windows install somehow and I couldn't boot into it. Now that I finally have a second hard drive I'm just going to run them on seperate drives and hope that they don't try to kill each other.
[02:41] <kalifornia909> anyone ever use ubuntu on an a7n8x delux mobo
[02:41] <tripsync> elpargo: ty
[02:41] <NemesisD> beryl seems to be preventing video files from playing, anyone thing they can help me out with this?
[02:41] <elpargo> Kamaria, yes it has a big warning saying it's going to do that
[02:42] <Vanuatoo_> elpargo: because without it I was not able even to install it
[02:42] <break_> DHT is enabled, but it wont work
[02:42] <nibsa1242> Vanuatoo_: only time I've experienced random crashes etc was while attempting to install Feisty
[02:42] <elpargo> Vanuatoo_, that doesn't makes sense
[02:42] <Vanuatoo_> The install program crashed every time
[02:42] <Pie-rate> NemesisD: go to #beryl
[02:42] <eck> Kamaria: you will still need to use grub to dual boot, unless you want to swap the HDDs around
[02:42] <NemesisD> k
[02:42] <magnetron> Kamaria: you have to choose if it will eat Windows or share place
[02:42] <cables> boricua, install sun-java5/6-plugin, then run sudo update-alternatives --config java and choose the Sun one.
[02:42] <J-_> anyone know of a good area to download packages atm?
[02:42] <elpargo> eck, yea but windows will not kill the MBR on the first drive
[02:42] <break_> when i tried dual booting, windows always checked the other hard drive for errors
[02:42] <latoo> J-_: other than repos? google getdeb
[02:42] <Pelo> !ati > Vanuatoo_   this might help you out, check the pm window
[02:43] <Kamaria> Eck: Can I make sure Grub installs on the OTHER hard drive so it doesn't eat the Windows bootloader?
[02:43] <Angeluz> Greetings.
[02:43] <elpargo> i'm confused wasn't 1.6 going to be default in 7.04?
[02:43] <Kamaria> And then just use the other hard drive as the boot device?
[02:43] <break_> unhook your windows drive when you install ubuntu
[02:43] <cables> elpargo, 1.6 what?
[02:43] <kbrooks> elpargo, 1.6 what?
[02:43] <cables> :)
[02:43] <Jenn> what is the difference between Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-15-386 and Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic?
[02:43] <Kevin> Kamaaria, you can always fix the windows bootloader
[02:43] <elpargo> :p java don't you follow the messages
[02:43] <eck> Kamaria: i'm not sure if it's possible in the graphical installer -- if you can skip the bootloader install step you can run the grub install command manually and make sure it goes to the right place
[02:43] <nibsa1242> just don't use windows its pointless anyway
[02:43] <J-_> latoo: no, I mean an area (part of the world) it seems the default canadian repos are not working?
[02:43] <emet> does grub-install come with ubuntu
[02:44] <cables> elpargo, both are available i believe
[02:44] <latoo> Kamaria: you don't need the windows bootloader. grub can load both
[02:44] <mastroDani> eck, if you written something else i loosed it... i was checking /var/log/messages as you told me.. i checked the last boot... the disk seems to be detected as SCSI, simply.. i'm sure it isn't... the graphic card is recognised as nVidia GeForce 420 Go (right), and than it say that it's supported by the "legacy" drivers.. on ubuntu 6.10 my card just work with NOT legacy driver..!!!
[02:44] <darx> where is the mount point for windows shares?
[02:44] <Kevin> Kamaria you can always fix the windows bootloader
[02:44] <Angeluz> How do I scan my tv-card for channels with TVtime?
[02:44] <elpargo> cables, I remember reading they will default to 1.6
[02:44] <Pelo> Jenn,  generic is a bogus package that checks and install the kernel you need
[02:44] <Kamaria> I'll figure it out.
[02:44] <Oni-Dracula> soooo upgraded to 7.04...and reinstalled my nvidia drivers from apt-get and now X is screwed...says module isn't loaded
[02:44] <Kamaria> Somehow.
[02:44] <Kamaria> :P
[02:44] <robbie_crash> After upgrading to Fiesty, my slave drive on IDE2 will not work, it's not the drive, it's the channel, it's also 99% not likely a hardware issue as it was working immediately prior to booting into fiesty for the first time
[02:44] <imbecile> hi guys, everytime i try to boot up live disk i get this error.. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2160/im000949ay5.jpg any ideas?
[02:44] <darx> i can access shares via nautilus but i don't know where it is mounted under filesystem
[02:44] <eck> mastroDani: here is the information about the scsi stuff https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks
[02:44] <magnetron> !enter > Kamaria
[02:44] <darx> can someone help me
[02:44] <Kamaria> !enter
[02:44] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:44] <Kevin> Kamaria it gives you the option of where you want to install the bootloader on the summary screen if you click advanced
[02:45] <Jenn> Pelo: But to use my ubuntu, I go into generic and not 386 because my screen freezes at ubuntu logo screen. Is this fine?...
[02:45] <TFMM> does anyone know if it's possible to get WPA to work with the Netgear WG111?
[02:45] <eck> mastroDani: I'm not sure about the nvidia stuff, i've never had an nvidia card
[02:45] <Jordan_U> robbie_crash, Can you mount it manually? does it show up in a sudo fdisk -l ?
[02:45] <magnetron> !enter > Kamaria
[02:45] <Kevin> Kamaria, im sorry, not bootloader....I meant grub
[02:45] <Pelo> Jenn,  yes it is fine
[02:45] <elpargo> Jenn, you should use generic anyway
[02:45] <budmang1> what is the fiesty channel?
[02:45] <mastroDani> eck, tnx.. i will try the legacy driver as it say :/ i'm a bit skeptical
[02:45] <elpargo> Kevin, grub = bootloader
[02:45] <imbecile> hi guys, everytime i try to boot up live disk i get this error.. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2160/im000949ay5.jpg any ideas?
[02:45] <darx> where does nautilus mount network shares?
[02:45] <Jordan_U> budmang1, Your in it :)
[02:45] <magnetron> TFMM, do you use ndiswrapper? then probably no
[02:45] <robbie_crash> Jordan_U: I can't mount whichever drive is on that channel, it doesn;t show up anywhere aside from in the posting prior to ubuntu loading
[02:46] <Kamaria> Okay then, Kevin. I'll have to boot into LiveCD again and hope I can finally fix this. Thanks
[02:46] <Pelo> imbecile,   saying you were having kernel panick on the live cd would have been simplet,   try the alternate install cd
[02:46] <codeyman> hi ppl.. is the upgrade process from edgy to feisty seamless.. or am i up for a rough ride like when i upgraded to fiesty?
[02:46] <elpargo> DarkX, /media
[02:46] <budmang1> Ive updated my new laptop and only haveing some minor sound problems.
[02:46] <budmang1> everything else works.
[02:46] <moDumass> hey all, im trying to enable dualview on my geforce fx5950ultra but when i restart x- failes to start so i go with the backed up xorg.conf file, how would i go about starting dualview?
[02:46] <Kevin> elpargo thanks for the information i already knew
[02:46] <budmang1> no sound plays but it sees everything.
[02:46] <tripsync> latoo: I installed Fiesty and added a modeline in xorg.conf to make my resolution 1440x900, but after I installed the nvidia driver, it stopped recognizing this modeline and my resolution went back to 1024x768...my dilemma is I want to retain my resolution while having the nvidia driver so I can use programs such as beryl
[02:46] <elpargo> codeyman, update-manager -d worked like a charm here
[02:46] <Jordan_U> robbie_crash, Does it show up in lspci /
[02:46] <Jordan_U> ?
[02:46] <imbecile> pelo, ive installed using this one several times.. also have already tried that with others
[02:46] <Jenn> elpargo and pelo: I have the old Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-386 and Generic. I want to remove them from my grub screen so it will look much cleaner. How would I go on about doing this?
[02:46] <boricua> cables: ty
[02:46] <ajehuk> kalifornia909 - you said you could see two drives when partitioning ubuntu (didnt you?) - the software raid configuration happens there
[02:47] <moDumass> tripsync read it
[02:47] <moDumass> sorry
[02:47] <elpargo> Kevin, then why this line "" not bootloader....I meant grub""
[02:47] <nibsa1242> Is there any simple way to fix a failed Fiesty upgrade?
[02:47] <latoo> tripsync: the nvidia installer probably wiped your modeline. did you re-add it?
[02:47] <Jordan_U> codeyman, If you are upgrading from Edgy and you don't have a bunch of obscure repositories it should be fine
[02:47] <sdfasdfawef> tripsync: what card do you have?
[02:47] <Pelo> Jenn,   gksu  gedit /boot/grub/menu.list  comment out what you donT' need
[02:47] <elpargo> Jenn, open synaptics you will see the packages there
[02:47] <TheIronChef> any linux based p2p program ot dl music?
[02:47] <codeyman> elpargo: well am a bit paranoid... it was a charm during the earlier upgrade too.. but it broke lots of stuff..
[02:47] <knix_> How does NX server work?  Is there server the computer you want to get to or?
[02:47] <tripsync> latoo: it's still there, I checked it again...it's just not loading it for some strange reason
[02:47] <robbie_crash> Jordan_U: the controller does, but not the actual drive
[02:47] <elpargo> codeyman, yes it did
[02:47] <TFMM> magnetron, I'm using the out of the box driver which says my hardware doesn't support wpa
[02:47] <ajehuk> eck - you should know this - do you still get the software raid options when configuring partitions on the newer ubuntu installers?
[02:47] <codeyman> Jordan_U: I do have bunch of obscure repos :(
[02:47] <tripsync> sdfasdfawef: GeForce 5700 Ultra
[02:48] <duelboot> SWEET...FIESTY IS ALL MINE
[02:48] <robbie_crash> Jordan_U: it shows up (I think) as 02:0c.0 RAID bus controller: <pci_lookup_name: buffer too small> (rev 11)
[02:48] <elpargo> TFMM, does it?
[02:48] <ajehuk> kalifornia909 - if you have alittle time I'll grab a box and run through it with you...
[02:48] <latoo> I have probs with nvidia driver atm too. I think there's some "NoCheck..." settings changes but not sure
[02:48] <elpargo> duelboot, actualy it's of the comunity
[02:48] <duelboot> running fiesty on this box and currently installing on another...life is good
[02:48] <codeyman> elpargo: So nothing this time right...?
[02:48] <eck> ajehuk: i don't know, i don't use software raid
[02:48] <nibsa1242> deulboot you are lucky
[02:48] <duelboot> elpargo, I know that, but you missed the point...sorry
[02:48] <elpargo> codeyman, other then the slooooooow download nope
[02:48] <boricua> cables: ty
[02:49] <budmang1> im not getting any sound output but everything is there.
[02:49] <imbecile> what is a "bad eip value"?
[02:49] <codeyman> okie.. great.
[02:49] <elpargo> duelboot, nop that was a joke :)
[02:49] <robbie_crash> Jordan_U: I'm using the other drive that's on that same cable/channel
[02:49] <elpargo> duelboot, it's mine too since 2hrs
[02:49] <nibsa1242> I'm trying to figure out how to fix a failed Fiesty install that hardlocked about 65%in
[02:49] <kynes> how can I change start location of my console?
[02:49] <mastroDani> eck, now i know why it say "the disk is scsi" but how can i tune up the setting? i was using hdparm before
[02:49] <duelboot> elpargo, same here...
[02:49] <underwatercow> one of these days I need to try to install gentoo
[02:49] <underwatercow> :-p
[02:49] <robbie_crash> Jordan_U: it looks like it's not loading slave for some reason
[02:49] <Pelo> budmang1,  double click the sound icon and make sure nothing is muted
[02:49] <latoo> tripsync: I have some vertsync issue with mine too. I think there's some extra settings to disable with the nvidia driver but not sure
[02:49] <boricua> nibsa1242: my advice reinstall
[02:49] <budmang1> Pelo, nothing is.
[02:49] <imbecile> what is a "bad eip value"?
[02:49] <moDumass> trypsync did you ge that?
[02:49] <nibsa1242> now I boot to a CLI with (initramfs)
[02:49] <imbecile> hi guys, everytime i try to boot up live disk i get this error.. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2160/im000949ay5.jpg any ideas? btw its not the disk
[02:50] <nibsa1242> boricua what would I reinstall Edgy or Fiesty?
[02:50] <elpargo> duelboot, here have a beer
[02:50] <moDumass> i have widescreen running at 1440X900 with nvidia driver, but its a bit of a hackjob i think
[02:50] <boricua> nibsa1242: what ever you want
[02:50] <tripsync> latoo: ok, I'll keep playing around with it, new to Ubuntu so I've been working at this for the better part of the day :S
[02:50] <Pelo> budmang1,  same windows,  file > change device
[02:50] <xxl3w> is there anyway to change the preference of xchat where it doesn't do a /list when you connect?
[02:50] <moDumass> i had no idea what i was doing
[02:50] <latoo> kynes: you mean which console x starts on?
[02:50] <eck> mastroDani: afaik hdparm should still work
[02:50] <duelboot> elpargo, I'm on my first BOTTLE of wine...should be done shortly
[02:50] <Valinski> Hello people... Anybody know anything about installing the NVIDIA driver? Ive been having trouble for a while now and cant seem to get it working after looking at a few how to's.
[02:50] <nibsa1242> What are you drinking duel?
[02:50] <budmang1> Ive tird the OSS and the ALSA
[02:50] <elpargo> Valinski, install "envy"
[02:50] <kynes> latoo : no I mean..
[02:50] <underwatercow> aren't nvidia supposed to be pretty easy? lol
[02:50] <eck> duelboot: drinking and irc, a classic combination :-)
[02:50] <mastroDani> eck, don't think so.. it give very different result if i use it with /dev/sda instead of /dev/hda..
[02:51] <kynes> latoo: user@domain>Desktop/
[02:51] <duelboot> nibsa1242, Beringer Founders' Estate Merlot (2004)
[02:51] <Valinski> Ive tried... I have the new version of Ubuntu
[02:51] <Chetwin> Everytime I start gaim after boot I get a Segmentation fault (core dump) I've tried removing and reinstalling but it doesn't help.  Any ideas?
[02:51] <duelboot> eck, one I love
[02:51] <kynes> latoo: suppose it's like this.. I want to change Desktop
[02:51] <Valinski> it doesnt recognise the OS
[02:51] <latoo> kynes: oh, you want to change your prompt?
[02:51] <imbecile> hi guys, everytime i try to boot up live disk i get this error.. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2160/im000949ay5.jpg any ideas? btw its not the disk
[02:51] <moDumass> how do you open a privatre msg with someone in xchat
[02:51] <budmang1> when i uncheck and check microphone i can hear shit in my mic
[02:51] <elpargo> imbecile, did you check the md5 of the disk?
[02:51] <underwatercow> Hey, does anyone know if it's possible to force a remote computer to log in from a remote location?
[02:51] <kynes> latoo: yes.. change the prompt.. but I suppose you'd say change the .bashrc
[02:51] <kynes> right?
[02:51] <magnetron> moDumass: /msg someone text
[02:51] <mastroDani> ecgw, i found "sdparm" i check it now
[02:51] <duelboot> nibsa1242, I'm a cheapskate (Sp?)
[02:51] <latoo> kynes: that's where's it's defined yes
[02:52] <Chetwin> Everytime I start gaim after boot I get a Segmentation fault (core dump) I've tried removing and reinstalling but it doesn't help.  Any ideas?
[02:52] <eck> underwatercow: you want the other computer to log into yours?
[02:52] <}{|pO|ito> Quien ha visto el libro de Codigolibre.org
[02:52] <boricua> !beryl
[02:52] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:52] <imbecile> elpargo yes and ive installed like 10 times with this disk with no problems
[02:52] <}{|pO|ito> sobre UBUNTU
[02:52] <underwatercow> eck: say I'm using remote desktop and I reboot. The computer will get stuck at the login screen...
[02:52] <moDumass> magnetron, if i rightclick their handle and select Open Dialog Window will that do the same thing?
[02:52] <underwatercow> eck: which will prevent me from remoting back in
[02:52] <elpargo> imbecile, 10 times that same machine? you got any "weird" hardware?
[02:52] <mastroDani> eck, sdparm is "read only" :/ how can i switch back to have the EIDE disk as EIDE disk?
[02:52] <latoo> kynes: you could change it in your current term but it would be lost when you exit it
[02:52] <Gabz> !vmware > Gabz
[02:52] <imbecile> !es | }{|pO|ito
[02:52] <ubotu> }{|pO|ito: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:52] <magnetron> !es > }{|pO|ito
[02:52] <magnetron> moDumass: yes
[02:53] <robbie_crash> :-/ I guess it's time to reinstall just to be safe, is the install for beryl on feisty much more difficult than on edgy?
[02:53] <eck> underwatercow: i would just use ssh. to fix your problem i think you'd be forced to do autologin
[02:53] <break_> is there a different tracker i could use?
[02:53] <elpargo> robbie_crash, why reinstall? this is linux...
[02:53] <moDumass> kewl, thanks magnetron
[02:53] <underwatercow> eck: that was pretty much the conclusion I had reached, but I thought I would ask anyway
[02:53] <nibsa1242> deulboot: I'm kinda cheep to... I tend to prefer Chilean wine for its value
[02:53] <Stormx2> underwatercow: You can make gdm automatically login. System > Administration > Login window
[02:53] <imbecile> elpargo I think the error may be hardware related.. it says "bad eip value" as well
[02:53] <magnetron> moDumass: np
[02:53] <elpargo> break_, man really stop complaining 100k is great
[02:53] <underwatercow> I was just curious if there was a way without doing autologin
[02:53] <break_> no it isnt
[02:53] <eck> mastroDani: I have read that hdparm should work with libata, but that could be incorrect. it is not possible to have it as a regular IDE disk without installing a non-ubuntu kernel
[02:53] <break_> its slow
[02:53] <magnetron> !mirrors > break_
[02:53] <break_> i found a faster site
[02:53] <elpargo> imbecile, umm I remember someone asking about eip a while ago.... it wasn't you?
[02:54] <robbie_crash> elpargo: Because I have no idea how to get my slave on ide2 working
[02:54] <break_> only one of the mirrors were quicker
[02:54] <mastroDani> eck, i see....
[02:54] <latoo> underwatercow: you can have easy or secure, but not both ;-)
[02:54] <mastroDani> eck, any hint for the "very slow" problem?
[02:54] <elpargo> robbie_crash, then find out how instead of wasting time this is not windows it's a real OS
[02:54] <break_> but bittorrent would be 3-4x faster than the fastest mirror
[02:54] <imbecile> elpargo, probably not.. i just started having this problem
[02:54] <underwatercow> latoo: lol... that seems to be the case. Oh well... ssh works 99% for what I do anyway
[02:54] <asooo> Hi,I just install a package named i686 kernel,but I'm not sure if it works,how to know that?
[02:54] <elpargo> robbie_crash, check out /etc/fstab
[02:54] <tom_> asooo: are you in ubuntu now
[02:55] <elpargo> asooo, that is the kind of thing that if you don't know what it is you don't need it
[02:55] <robbie_crash> elpargo: obviously, I've been trying since I've installed it. It's not an fstab error, it's not hardware
[02:55] <tom_> asooo: cos if you are, it worrks
[02:55] <asooo> Yeah tom
[02:55] <tom_> asooo: have you rebooted since you installed it
[02:55] <asooo> yes,
[02:55] <tom_> asooo: then it's working
[02:55] <underwatercow> can't you run remote desktop through ssh? lol... does that work?
[02:55] <vafada> how do i disable autostart when i insert an Audio CD?
[02:55] <magnetron> see you all, gratulations to feisty release
[02:55] <eck> mastroDani: do you know what kind of slow? like is it cpu or i/o or what?
[02:55] <elpargo> underwatercow, x forwarding does
[02:55] <tom_> asooo: type "uname -r" in a console
[02:55] <Malachi> My openoffice doesn't work. It just displays and loads the splash and then disappears. I'm using feisty; it did work in Edgy.
[02:55] <tom_> asooo: and tell me what you see
[02:56] <nibsa1242> any one know if its necessary with Fiesty to use the alternate install on some machines with ATI hardware?
[02:56] <magnetron> underwatercow: yes
[02:56] <elpargo> robbie_crash, could you give me the error of the mount command?
[02:56] <tom_> Malachi: what happens when you load it from a terminal
[02:56] <nibsa1242> Malachi: try deleating the user configuration files that are hidden in your home directory
[02:56] <Bmms> anyone know how i can set up my sound on 7.04 for 5.1, i have sb live! 24bit?
[02:56] <TFMM> does anyone know why the nvidia driver fails to enable after checking the box in restricted drivers manager?
[02:56] <magnetron> nibsal242 http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/04/installing-ubuntu-704-ati-x-cards/
[02:56] <underwatercow> but can you remote through ssh if the computer is logged out? lol
[02:56] <ajehuk> Malachi - could you try starting it from a terminal and looking if there are any errors?
[02:56] <elpargo> nibsa1242, it has never been the case xorg driver is the default anyway
[02:56] <Hubris> I've managed to downgrade my VNC server so it now accepts incoming sessions....when it comes to a login prompt, it doesn't accept my ID/pass - is there somewhere I need to approve users to use VNC?
[02:56] <eck> underwatercow: yes
[02:56] <nibsa1242> Malachi: the ones specific to open office
[02:56] <robbie_crash> elpargo: it worked fine under edgy, then after the upgrade to feisty it stopped. The master on that channel works, with either disk that I put on it, so I know it's not the disk. It doesn't show up under sudo fdisk -l, doesn't show up in hardware information, doesn't show up under gparted, it seems that as soon as ubuntu loads, the slave channel just stops
[02:56] <eck> underwatercow: as long as sshd is running
[02:56] <Malachi> tom_ : I wasn't sure what the command one, but I tried ooffice -writer, and I got the same problem.
[02:57] <Malachi> nibsa1242: Tried it already.
[02:57] <robbie_crash> elpargo: there's no error, the disk just doesn't exist
[02:57] <ajehuk> Malachi - fyi the command to lauch open office wirter is oowriter
[02:57] <magnetron> underwatercow: the COMPUTER isn't logged out, the user is
[02:57] <nibsa1242> elpargo: it Edgy only installed on my desktop with the alternate CD due to my X800
[02:57] <underwatercow> magnetron: touche
[02:57] <Malachi> ajehuk: oowriter isn't installed, it says.
[02:57] <tom_> Malachi: what does it actually say in the terminal
[02:57] <asooo> Tom, thank you,but when i just type that,it just give me a code name 2.6.17-11-generic,where is the i686?
[02:57] <eck> underwatercow: i suppose it could be done for something like VNC if someone sat down and wrote a PAM policy
[02:57] <tom_> Malachi: are there any error codes or anything
[02:57] <Malachi> The program 'oowriter' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[02:57] <Malachi> sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-writer
[02:57] <Malachi> bash: oowriter: command not found
[02:57] <magnetron> underwatercow: gtg
[02:57] <tom_> asooo: hmmm
[02:57] <elpargo> robbie_crash, do you have another OS to see if it detects it? are you sure the cable is good? is it plugin correctly?
[02:57] <underwatercow> magnetron: same, later
[02:57] <nibsa1242> Malachi: have you tried complete removal and then reinstall of open office?
[02:57] <Malachi> But openoffice.org-writer is installed, tom_
[02:57] <underwatercow> thanks eck for your help too
[02:58] <ajehuk> Malachi - odd -
[02:58] <Malachi> jibsa1242: No....I guess I'll try it...
[02:58] <tom_> asooo: when you boot, you need to go into grub and pick the i686 kernel
[02:58] <DNA`> is there a way to burn a cd iso on an empty dvd and install ubuntu 7.04 from it??
[02:58] <Malachi> nibsa1242: What should I uninstall?
[02:58] <seph209> Can someone help me troubleshoot my sound on ubuntu? It used to work, but now it does not work. Any suggestions on where to start troubleshooting?
[02:58] <Flannel> DNA`: yeah.  burning a CD image to a DVD works fine
[02:58] <ajehuk> Malachi - odd - and if you lanuch openoffice.org-writer?
[02:58] <elpargo> Malachi, can you try that with a different user? or do a reinstall of oo
[02:58] <nibsa1242> Malachi, all of it
[02:58] <tom_> seph209: there is a really good guide on the wiki i think
[02:58] <vafada> how do i disable Sound Juicer to automatically run when i insert an Audio CD?
[02:58] <tom_> seph209: it got my sound working when it borked
[02:58] <Malachi> ajehuk: command not found
[02:58] <mastroDani> eck, as i told you before.. the strange thing is this.. i have that applet "system monitor" i don't know the english name.. that one you can add to the panel and it gave you the "real time" graph of the CPU usage, RAM, disk, net.. and LOAD.. i have a big load.. but the processor is not very used i have half of the ram free and no net/disc activity... and the load is say "2.5" wich is more or less "half" the graph he
[02:58] <mastroDani> igh... if i start using apt-get to install something the load go up to 5 or more (max in the graph)
[02:58] <tom_> vafada: go to system > preferences
[02:59] <nibsa1242> buring a CD image to a DVD should work fine... but I've had issues
[02:59] <robbie_crash> I'm positive it's not hardware, I've switched the hdd's around, plugged in one at a time, with either end of the ide cable, and they always show up. It's just when both are on at the same time that the second one doesn't show up.
[02:59] <Malachi> elpargo: I guess I could create a new user...
[02:59] <nibsa1242> I suggest using a rw material
[02:59] <tom_> vafada: then removable drives and media
[02:59] <robbie_crash> elpargo: that last one was for you
[02:59] <Hubris> Seph - another good guide on the forums, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[02:59] <Malachi> elpargo: But I'll try a reinstall first.
[02:59] <FernLujan> hey, I Need help
[02:59] <Malachi> nibsa1242: And purge?
[02:59] <eck> mastroDani: load up top and see which processes are in the running state
[02:59] <tom_> vafada: there are preferences for when some cd gets put in your computer
[02:59] <tom_> FernLujan: whats the problem
[02:59] <aimes> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2398659#post2398659
[02:59] <robbie_crash> elpargo: I'll post if you want
[02:59] <vafada> tom_ saw it thanks
[02:59] <asooo> tom_:no, it isn't on the list,i just install it in the synaptic,but i can't find it or make sure it work or not...sign
[02:59] <robbie_crash> *repost
[02:59] <mastroDani> eck... yup..
[02:59] <ajehuk> Malachi - I would go for a reinstall of the whole oo suite - looks like something is missing or misconfigured - I assume apt-get install openoffice.org / or using synaptic / aptitude would be the best next move
[02:59] <elpargo> Malachi, why??? for oo
[03:00] <elpargo> DAMMIT this is not windows
[03:00] <tom_> vafada: np
[03:00] <elpargo> you should not reinstall to make it work
[03:00] <jojoman02> hey how can i encrypt a folder with a password?
[03:00] <FernLujan> tom_: I just installed ubuntu 7.04, and everything is fine, except for the fact that I can't enable Desktop EFfects
[03:00] <elpargo> ./rant
[03:00] <eck> mastroDani: I had a problem similar to this in edgy where there were a bunch of pdflush processes running and my load was hovering around 10
[03:00] <tom_> asooo: hmm ok how come you want that kernel, just for performance?
[03:00] <ajehuk> elpargo - no but if the component is not isntalled you need to install it
[03:00] <tom_> FernLujan: what 3d card do you have
[03:00] <elpargo> Malachi, can you open a new shell and try there
[03:00] <FernLujan> tom_: ATI Radeon X550X
[03:00] <Malachi> elpargo: ?
[03:00] <elpargo> ajehuk, and he just said it shows as installed
[03:00] <tom_> FernLujan: have you installed the drivers for it
[03:00] <seph209> thanks, I'll start in those places.
[03:00] <ataylor> hi
[03:00] <ataylor> i just upgraded to 7.04 and my internet is very slow
[03:00] <tom_> seph209: np
[03:00] <Malachi> elpargo: Define new shell. Something besides bash?
[03:01] <ajehuk> elpargo - in apt?
[03:01] <ataylor> im on a speedtouch 330 modem
[03:01] <Malachi> elpargo: Or try it under sudo?
[03:01] <FernLujan> tom_: yes, in the restricted drivers manager, and everything was installed properl
[03:01] <asooo> Tom_:because my cpu is p4 so i think the i686 is suit my pc
[03:01] <ataylor> worked perfectly fine under 6.10
[03:01] <eck> mastroDani: the load is basically the average numbre of processes in the running state, so you might be able to find out what is driving the load up by looking for those processes
[03:01] <tom_> ataylor: what do you mean slow
[03:01] <Malachi> elpargo: Or what?
[03:01] <mastroDani> eck, what's pdflush?
[03:01] <elpargo> Malachi, bash just another instance
[03:01] <tom_> FernLujan: so are you sure you have 3d support
[03:01] <ataylor> takes up to 30 seconds for web pages to load
[03:01] <elpargo>  robbie_crash maybe there is a change in dbus that's causing your drive not to be found
[03:01] <mjr> FernLujan, actually, I think you shouldn't install the restricted drivers for that particular card (or none of the ATI cards <x1000)
[03:01] <ataylor> this irc chat is laggy
[03:01] <fenris> hi
[03:01] <imbecile> hi guys, everytime i try to boot up live disk i get this error.. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2160/im000949ay5.jpg any ideas?
[03:01] <verma> doing a full upgrade on a beta system will upgrade to 7.04 release .. right?
[03:01] <eck> mastroDani: it's a process the kernel spawns to write data out to the hard disk. this was a bug in the 2.6.17 kernel
[03:01] <Malachi> elpargo: openoffice.org-writer still gives me nothing.
[03:01] <mjr> (except maybe mobility 200M)
[03:01] <mastroDani> eck, tnx for the explaination :) i watch now
[03:01] <jrib> !final > verma    (verma, see the private message from ubotu)
[03:01] <eck> (it's been fixed now, i think)
[03:01] <tom_> asooo: hmm ok, well i'm not really sure mate, mb have a look on google
[03:01] <robbie_crash> elpargo: uninstall and reinstall dbus and all dependencies?
[03:02] <FernLujan> mjr: the desktop effects didn't work before I installed the driver either
[03:02] <elpargo> Malachi,  no no that should be oowriter
[03:02] <Malachi> But elpargo, and ajehuk, I do get (process:20997): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: gtype.c:2242: initialization assertion failed, use IA__g_type_init() prior to this function
[03:02] <Malachi> (process:20997): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_screen_get_font_options: assertion `GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' failed
[03:02] <Malachi>
[03:02] <FernLujan> tom_: Can you rephrase that?
[03:02] <asooo> Tom_:thank you
[03:02] <mjr> FernLujan, x500 should be supported by the free driver, you see, and fglrx doesn't work with AIGLX afaik
[03:02] <Malachi> wehn I try ooffice -writer
[03:02] <mastroDani> eck, can't be this problem is related with the libata?
[03:02] <tom_> ataylor: type "ping -c 5 google.com" in a terminal tell me what it says
[03:02] <fenris> hm, i just updated to feisty and activated those "desktop effects"... but now my window frames are gone?
[03:02] <verma> jrib, nice .. thanks
[03:02] <tom_> asooo: np, sorry i couldnt help
[03:02] <Malachi> elpargo: Still nothing
[03:02] <tom_> FernLujan: ok type this in a terminal
[03:02] <FernLujan> mjr: so I just disable the restricted drivers I recently installed?
[03:02] <mjr> FernLujan, might've been something else wrong with your xorg.conf then, but I don't know how effect-friendly Feisty configures it by default
[03:02] <elpargo> Malachi, open up synaptics and reinstall openoffice package (the whole thing)
[03:02] <ddwagnz> hi ho
[03:03] <eck> mastroDani: I suppose it could be
[03:03] <bofh80> fenris, that only happens to the open ones, close open a new app / window
[03:03] <nibsa1242> I have to use the restriced driver with my X800... but I think anything lower then X700 the free driver is as good or better
[03:03] <FernLujan> mjr: do you think it's possible for me to get beryl working on my desktop with this videocard?
[03:03] <Malachi> elpargo: Yeah, I'm about to do that.
[03:03] <FernLujan> tom_: I'm ready
[03:03] <tom_> FernLujan: probably
[03:03] <mjr> FernLujan, anyway, I tried, successfully, the effects on my radeon x850 and free drivers, after tinkering a bit with my (legacy) xorg.conf
[03:03] <mastroDani> eck, how can i move up-down the list on top?
[03:03] <mjr> FernLujan, yes
[03:03] <fenris> bofh80: doesnt help... i even logged out and in again
[03:03] <mastroDani> eck, with "top" i mean the program
[03:03] <elpargo> robbie_crash, how about searching their tracker for a bug report
[03:03] <bofh80> the 3d cube desktop is awesome :D
[03:03] <latoo> FernLujan: if it has 64MB of ram or more should be fine
[03:03] <tom_> FernLujan: sorry just checking the command :)
[03:03] <mastroDani> eck, in that case i have to install a non-ubuntu kernel?
[03:04] <FernLujan> mjr: How could I go about installing beryl?
[03:04] <SciOly> I'm using Edgy but I have not automagic "upgrade" button in upgrade-manager, anyone might know why?
[03:04] <mjr> FernLujan, but of course, it's still experimental and so on, so YMMV, and you might have to do something to advance it
[03:04] <russiane39_> Hi! Anyone can tell me, where Restricted Devices manager situated in Kubuntu 7.0.4 ?
[03:04] <fiction> !lamp
[03:04] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:04] <Flannel> SciOly: is your edgy completely up to date?
[03:04] <bofh80> fenris, agh, nasty, turn it off :F - what graphics card you got?
[03:04] <elpargo> SciOly, you need to pass -d to it
[03:04] <SciOly> Flannel, yes
[03:04] <Flannel> elpargo: no you dont
[03:04] <SciOly> elpargo, I tried -d, no success
[03:04] <ddwagnz> tell me..... with 6.06 is it possiable to create a new partition and install on that partition that you created?
[03:04] <fenris> bofh80: nvidia 7800gt
[03:04] <Flannel> SciOly: do you have edgy-updates repositories?
[03:04] <snadge> i've just updated to feisty, how do i enable desktop effects with ati radeon 9550 video/
[03:04] <Arrick> !ubuntu
[03:04] <FernLujan> mjr: I just got linux today, so I don't know how to install things and stuff
[03:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[03:04] <mjr> FernLujan, first you should try to get the basic compiz working, so you have a working configuration. Then worry about beryl
[03:04] <tom_> FernLujan: ok type "glxinfo | grep rendering" in a console, and tell me what it says
[03:04] <elpargo> Flannel, for the dist-upgrade?? yes you do
[03:04] <scuzzlebutt> hello can i get help here with installing something, for fiesty fawn?
[03:04] <teem0> When  using the kboot and the livecd desktop version (PS3 Port) can I type something at the kboot prompt instead of just pressing enter to start the installer instead of loading the live session.
[03:05] <Flannel> elpargo: No.  -d is only for development versions.  Feisty is final.
[03:05] <tom_> FernLujan: don't woryy man, you'll get the hang of it
[03:05] <mjr> FernLujan, then you shouldn't be trying too hard to get up and running with this experimental stuff
[03:05] <asooo> is the ubuntu 7.04 have the 3d wm install on default?
[03:05] <bofh80> fenris, you git. ok....do you use synaptic? search for name nvidia - tell me which one you have installed?
[03:05] <tom_> scuzzlebutt: what you wanna install
[03:05] <Malachi> elpargo, ajehuk: Funny, says it can't be authenticated.
[03:05] <SciOly> Flannel, I have: edgy-updates main restricted
[03:05] <russiane39_> where Restricted Devices manager situated in Kubuntu 7.0.4 ?
[03:05] <nibsa1242> ddwagnz you could do that, but you'd probably need the alternative install cd to set up grub correctly
[03:05] <latoo> FernLujan: yes, "desktop effects" are still unstable
[03:05] <LsBlend> Help Needed!!!
[03:05] <scuzzlebutt> i want to install Hamachi
[03:05] <FernLujan> tom_: DIrect rendering: yes
[03:05] <tom_> LsBlend: whats the matter
[03:05] <Flannel> SciOly: hmm.  What version "update-manager" package do you have/
[03:05] <tom_> FernLujan: ok great, that means your 3d acceleration is on
[03:05] <elpargo> Flannel, ahhh yes sorry that's -c
[03:05] <fenris> bofh80: uhm, it seems that the gnome terminal is all white, and nothing happens if i write into it... grrr
[03:05] <LsBlend> I need to partition my HD
[03:05] <LsBlend> I only have one
[03:05] <elpargo> SciOly, update-manager -c
[03:05] <LsBlend> no partitions
[03:05] <bofh80> hahahah
[03:05] <elpargo> sorry L)
[03:06] <scuzzlebutt> i think i used the wrong site cuz when i tried to cennoct it it didn't work
[03:06] <tom_> scuzzlebutt: whats hamachi
[03:06] <imbecile> hi guys, everytime i try to boot up live disk i get this error.. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2160/im000949ay5.jpg any ideas?
[03:06] <Flannel> elpargo: no.  SciOly, -c is only if you're on dapper. (Only to move away from LTS)
[03:06] <FernLujan> mjr: I know a bit how to use linux, but I'm not an advanced user
[03:06] <Vanuatoo_> When I start firefox it closes automatically in 5 seconds
[03:06] <FernLujan> mjr: I'm sure if someone helped me along the way I could install compiz
[03:06] <LsBlend> i have to keep windows installed
[03:06] <jason10> whats goin on everybody
[03:06] <LsBlend> for a dual boot
[03:06] <bofh80> fenris, System > Administration > Synaptic ..... you can use the menu still right?
[03:06] <SciOly> Flannel, 0.45.2
[03:06] <mjr> FernLujan, compiz is installed, it's the "desktop effects" thingy you can't get working :]
[03:06] <scuzzlebutt> its a program where you can allow some1 to have control over ur pc to help you fix things
[03:06] <LsBlend> any help?
[03:06] <TomBug> anyone know how i can set up my sound on 7.04 for 5.1, i have sb live! 24bit?
[03:06] <tom_> FernLujan: when you open up the ddesktop effects thing what does it say
[03:06] <elpargo> Flannel, yes he asked for upgrade...
[03:06] <ajehuk> FernLujan - probably - how far have you gotten (oh and what is your card?)
[03:06] <nny> evening all.. so what about edgy made udev load my hard drive as hda, but after an upgrade it is now sda.? I have fixed, but i was unclear as to why the new kernel has labeled it differently
[03:06] <imbecile> hi guys, everytime i try to boot up live disk i get this error.. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2160/im000949ay5.jpg any ideas?
[03:06] <nibsa1242> Does anyone have any tips for installing a fesh Fiesty install over a Failed fiesty upgrade?
[03:07] <FernLujan> the composite extension is not available
[03:07] <bofh80> ohh, is there a HOTKEY for Desktop Effects? On / Off hotkey? anyone?
[03:07] <tom_> LsBlend: as you can see its really busy in here, if you type everything in one post, its easier to read
[03:07] <nny> nibsa1242, what failed?
[03:07] <elpargo> Flannel, it will hop you to 6.10 and then 7.04 is there another way??
[03:07] <mjr> FernLujan, anyway, I do believe you should uninstall the proprietary driver first since I don't think it supports AIGLX, whereas the free driver should for your card, and if you have trouble with that, it should be configurable to work, unlike fglrx
[03:07] <LsBlend> nowisn
[03:07] <Flannel> elpargo: You don't need ANY flags to go from 6.10 to 7.04
[03:07] <FernLujan> ajehuk: ATI Radeon X550X, I haven't done anything except install the restricted ATI drivers yet.
[03:07] <LsBlend> i cant talk to you
[03:07] <tom_> imbecile: haha did you take that wit a digital camera ?
[03:08] <fenris> bofh80: nvidia-glx version is 1.0.9631
[03:08] <LsBlend> it wont let me
[03:08] <ajehuk> FernLujan - noooooooooooooo
[03:08] <Flannel> elpargo: -c is only for 6.06 to 6.10, -d is only if you wanted to upgrade while Feisty was still in beta
[03:08] <SciOly> Flannel, sorry... xchat just segfaulted
[03:08] <jason10> if anybody wouldnt mind, i have a question about mounting a hard drive in ubuntu?
[03:08] <imbecile> tom_ yuppers.. i couldnt get that box to boot
[03:08] <FernLujan> ajehuk: I'm disabling it though
[03:08] <bofh80> fenris, i do believe you want the one labeled nvidia-glx-new ?
[03:08] <elpargo> Flannel, well my friend you do at least that's the only way I got it to show up
[03:08] <imbecile> <------ creative
[03:08] <nibsa1242> nny, it hard locked about 65% in... after wating for 20+min and rebooting I get in a CLI with (initramfs) on the left and above that there is a message saying that my root partition can't be found
[03:08] <nowisn> lsblend i'm installing now so if you need a hand then pm me
[03:08] <tom_> imbecile: you have a load of shit drawn on your monitor hey
[03:08] <ajehuk> FernLujan - not an ATI card... I spent about 3 days playig with my 9550 and xorg - the end result was... pitiful
[03:08] <fenris> bofh80: do i?
[03:08] <cpar2> good evening all, I suppose we are talking Feisty tonight :)
[03:08] <LsBlend> i cant!!
[03:08] <elpargo> Flannel, even update-manager help says it
[03:08] <bofh80> fenris, oh yes with that card, oh yes.
[03:08] <Flannel> SciOly: hmm.  Well, 0.45.2 is the required version.  Try reloading the package list... er, check for updates, or whatnot
[03:08] <tom_> imbecile: the kernel is panicing for some reason, that means some hardware isnt workng properly
[03:08] <Flannel> elpargo: no.  it doens't.
[03:08] <ajehuk> cpar2 - whats a feisty? :)
[03:08] <FernLujan> mjr: after I disable the ATI drivers, what can I do to enable desktop effects?
[03:09] <mjr> ajehuk, well I played 3 minutes with x800 and compiz worked.
[03:09] <teem0> When  using the kboot and the livecd desktop version (PS3 Port) can I type something at the kboot prompt instead of just pressing enter to start the installer instead of loading the live session.
[03:09] <elpargo> Flannel, fine in my machine it didn't unless I added -c
[03:09] <bofh80> fenris, you can use that to install it, it will remove the other one, no other changes should be needed . . . . . . just to restart X or the PC
[03:09] <Vanuatoo_> Why firefox closes after 5 seconds? Where can I see more details?
[03:09] <tom_> FernLujan: why would you disable the ati drivers
[03:09] <imbecile> tom_ I used to be a graffiti writer.. hehe is there anyway to troubleshoot what hardware is buggered?