[04:29] <jordo23_> sethk: someone else told me to install that package. what do I do? When I try to apt for the dependent packages, it says the other are missing dependants.
[04:30] <sethk> jordo23, It says you are trying to replace azureus.  (this may be because of an earlier partial install.)  I thing the first thing to do is to try to remove azureus.  That may get you back to a state where it can automatically find and install the dependencies.
[04:31] <ptolo> bluefoxicy: 'free' doesn't report how much memory is free actually - you may have cached data in memory that actually isn't using it (and will be purged when needed), also when you look at the memory consumption on per-process basis, you can see that many programs/libraries mmap files (icons, themes, etc), which gets marked as memory usage but actually isn't (its the file on the disk), ....
[04:31] <sethk> jordo23, you can do what it suggests in the error message, which is to force the install even without meeting the depedencies, but that's usually a bad idea
[04:31] <bluefoxicy> ptolo:  did you even read the paste?
[04:31] <ptolo> bluefoxicy: so it's kinda hard to determine the correct value; that said, you do have a point about gnome being a bit over-hungry (in both memory and cpu sense :)
[04:31] <ptolo> bluefoxicy: yes
[04:31] <bluefoxicy> ptolo:  I cut out the disk cache because it's treated as free memory when memory runs low anyway.
[04:32] <sethk> jordo23, it believes that everything is already installed, and it only needs to configure, but that's obviously not the case.
[04:32] <dkelson> I'm trying to install Dapper FT2 on my AMD64 box with an Areca RAID controller. I can't find the arcmsr kernel module, although a post on ubuntu-devel someone said the driver was there. Help?
[04:32] <ilpavox> have a fresh ubuntu install.  used apt to change to xdm, now it won't start x at all unless i am in root, or change to kdm or gdm.  anyone have this problem?
[04:32] <sethk> jordo23, by removing first, I'm hoping that it will realize it has to install, and then it will do the normal thing which is to also install required dependencies
[04:32] <bimberi> jordo23_: btw, what are you running ubuntu on?
[04:32] <seanhammond_> Hi - I just installed Hula as per the instructions on the wiki, and when I try to visit localhost.localdomain port 89 or 8080 I get Connection Refused. If I run hulamanager it outputs 'Hula web administration server not configured; skipping', anyone know what the problem is?
[04:33] <jordo23_> bimberi: dell laptop.
[04:33] <bimberi> jordo23: ok (so i386)
[04:33] <jordo23_> sethk: is there an apt package for Azureus? If so I can't find it.
[04:34] <taydad> How do I switch from ubuntu to edubuntu?
[04:34] <dkelson> Is there a newer install ISO than the FT2 iso?
[04:34] <superneo> does any1 know how to install oddcastv3-jack-3.1.6tar.gz
[04:34] <bimberi> taydad: sudo aptitude install edubuntu-desktop
[04:35] <Toba> for synaptic to do a force version downgrade, I need to have backports right?
[04:35] <Victorjiang> How can I start snmp service? I don't find a service command.
[04:35] <ilpavox> anyone see my question
[04:36] <eclair> ilpavox: i haven't had that problem :(
[04:36] <Toba> ilpavox: what was it?
[04:36] <bimberi> dkelson: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[04:36] <ilpavox> toba: have a fresh ubuntu install.  used apt to change to xdm, now it won't start x at all unless i am in root, or change to kdm or gdm.
[04:36] <Toba> hrm, I dunno
[04:36] <Toba> never had that problem
[04:36] <Toba> (I just read up and saw it)
[04:36] <ilpavox> gah
[04:36] <Toba> sorry :(
[04:36] <intelikey> superneo source tarball    unpack (tar -xzf)  read the docs, and probably  ./configure && make && sudo make install
[04:36] <Toba> hrm I really dislike the new version of eye of gnome
[04:36] <taydad> Thanks I will look into it and get back to you if I have more Qs.
[04:37] <Toba> crashes, slow, and spams the terminal
[04:37] <frogzoo> ilpavox: mebbe make the x server suid - but it's not necessary
[04:37] <Toba> :(
[04:37] <Toba> who develops eog, the gnome people?
[04:37] <Madpilot> Toba: try gThumb
[04:37] <Toba> gthumb eh?
[04:37] <dkelson> bimberi: thanks!
[04:38] <Madpilot> I like it better than eog, although the version in breezy has one really irritating bug...
[04:38] <Toba> I really like eye of gnome though
[04:39] <dkelson> bimberi, where can I get a list of kernel modules included with the daily install ISO?
[04:39] <sethk> jordo23, now you've lost me.  The apt package for azureus is listed in the thing you put on the pastebot
[04:40] <brenner> Toba: pic mgrs? i'm a big fan of gqview
[04:40] <bimberi> dkelson: sorry, i don't know
[04:40] <frenchy> hey does anyone know how to get the gstreamer in amarok to play mp3s
[04:40] <Toba> brenner: I don't want to manage my photos with it, I wrote some scripts for that that do exactly what I need
[04:40] <aTypical> frenchy, I believe that's covered in the Ubuntu Wiki
[04:40] <bimberi> dkelson: have a browse via http://packages.ubuntu.com - you might find something there
[04:40] <Toba> all I want to do is slideshows and simple rotating and deleting
[04:40] <frenchy> ok
[04:41] <Toba> I found the bug report in the gnome bug tracker though
[04:41] <Toba> somebody already submitted it
[04:41] <Toba> :/
[04:41] <aTypical> frenchy, have you read it?  I'm new so don't take what I say as the gospel.
[04:41] <brenner> Toba: you should be happy.  that saves you doing it :)
[04:42] <Toba> I know!
[04:42] <Victorjiang> How can I start snmp service? I don't find a service command.
[04:42] <Toba> I just wonder how to confirm the report
[04:42] <rcmiv> i have the nvidia-legacy drivers installed and enabled, splashscreen comes up, but openGL is not working...?
[04:42] <Toba> since it's exactly what I have
[04:42] <rcmiv> for instance openGL screensavers don't go
[04:42] <frenchy> im looking riht now
[04:43] <rcmiv> any ideas?
[04:43] <bimberi> Victorjiang: there's a package called snmpd, i guess you'd need to install that
[04:43] <Victorjiang> bimeri:it is already installed.but there is not a command called service
[04:44] <DMJC> I'm running ubuntu linux
[04:44] <intelikey> calender app ?    not a schedualer, a calender that contains things like moon phases and eclipes and such; that one might browse different years in ????
[04:44] <DMJC> I want to what i want to do
[04:44] <DMJC> is setup a machine on my network to filter packets for priority
[04:44] <sorush20> guys any recommendation for very cheap domain registeration
[04:45] <DMJC> and share out my internet to the rest of the network
[04:45] <Victorjiang> bimeri:or how can I start the snmpd service by command line or gui?
[04:46] <DMJC> any good howto's on filtering traffic for games to give higher priority to packets?
[04:46] <dan> how do install my wireless card?  I have an airlink awlc3025
[04:46] <bimberi> Victorjiang: sudo invoke-rc.d snmpd restart
[04:47] <frenchy> oh all i had to do was install the gstreamer-mad plugin
[04:48] <sethk> DMJC, you want to give games _higher_ priority?
[04:49] <sethk> DMJC, regardless of the specifics, look at the traffic shaper thing
[04:49] <tyler7039> hi, how would i go about updated Firefox?
[04:49] <tyler7039> i downloaded the install package
[04:49] <tyler7039> the .gz
[04:49] <dan> anybody know how to install a wireless card?
[04:49] <tyler7039> but i dont know which file to run
[04:49] <Madpilot> tyler7039: wait until April when Dapper comes out with 1.5
[04:49] <Victorjiang> bimberi: thanks a lot. libsnmp9 and libsnmp-base are installed. but it tell me:/etc/init.d/snmpd not found.Do I need to install more package?
[04:50] <sethk> tyler7039, you mean it is a .tar.bz ?
[04:50] <intelikey> dan did you read the wiki ?
[04:50] <DMJC> sethk: home lan
[04:50] <sethk> tyler7039, sorry, tar.gz, not bz
[04:50] <B7su4> can anyone help me with the error
[04:50] <frenchy> does anyone else use amarok?
[04:50] <B7su4> ~/Desktop$ peerguardnf
[04:50] <B7su4> peerguardnf: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:50] <DMJC> I want downloads to take a backseat to my ping
[04:50] <tyler7039> sethk, yes it was
[04:50] <sethk> DMJC, your ping?
[04:50] <tyler7039> i extracted it into a folder
[04:50] <dan> intelikey, no, new to the whole ubuntu thing
[04:50] <bimberi> Victorjiang: yes, the "snmpd" package (note the d)
[04:50] <sethk> tyler7039, then actually you don't have to run anything
[04:51] <intelikey> dan  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[04:51] <B7su4> can anyone help me with the error
[04:51] <sethk> tyler7039, the firefox tar.gz files are ready to run
[04:51] <dan> intelikey, thanks, I'll check it out!
[04:51] <aTypical> Anyone running Dapper getting an error about locales when trying to update?
[04:51] <Victorjiang> bimberi:Where can I get it?
[04:51] <sethk> tyler7039, what I did was to copy them to a directory named /usr/local/firefox, and then I added /usr/local/firefox to my PATH
[04:51] <bob832> when picking between KDE and gnome, does it basically come down to pref?
[04:52] <bimberi> Victorjiang: sudo aptitude install snmpd (in a terminal)
[04:52] <sethk> tyler7039, add /usr/local/firefox to the _front_ of the path, because the older one is still in /usr/bin
[04:52] <tyler7039> oh, okay
[04:52] <tyler7039> thank you
[04:52] <dle> Has anyone found on Breezy, Gnome hanging in a half-stopped state when shutting down from the menu?
[04:52] <tyler7039> i get it
[04:53] <intelikey> sethk what is it a tarball of pre-compiled binarries ?
[04:53] <sethk> intelikey, yes
[04:53] <frenchy> dle does it hang or freeze?
[04:53] <B7su4> can anyone help me with the error
[04:53] <sethk> intelikey, both firefox and thunderbird on mozilla.org are tarballs of binaries.  they have one for x86, and a few other common targets
[04:54] <Madpilot> bob832: yes.  :)  It's effectively frozen -- unusable.
[04:54] <intelikey> so it would run on any *nix ?
[04:54] <frenchy> B7su4 have you search synaptic for libstdc++ or something similar
[04:55] <B7su4> frenchy, no, how can i do that?
[04:55] <frenchy> dle: mine hangs a little when logging out but that was because i didnt have my vid driver installed
[04:55] <jiangguowei> bimberi:You are so enthusiastic!  sudo aptitude install snmpd
[04:55] <jiangguowei> Reading package lists... Done
[04:55] <jiangguowei> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:55] <jiangguowei> Reading extended state information
[04:55] <jiangguowei> Initializing package states... Done
[04:55] <jiangguowei> Building tag database... Done
[04:55] <jiangguowei> No candidate version found for snmpd
[04:55] <jiangguowei> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[04:56] <jiangguowei> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:56] <jiangguowei> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[04:56] <jiangguowei> Writing extended state information... Done
[04:56] <brenner> Madpilot: heh. what do you use?
[04:56] <jiangguowei> bimberi:why no package is downloaded?
[04:56] <bimberi> jiangguowei: thanks, but don't paste in here like that please
[04:56] <frenchy> B7su4 do you use synaptic
[04:56] <Madpilot> brenner: I'm an idiot :P
[04:57] <Madpilot> brenner: there was a post about two weeks ago by Linus Torvalds slagging Gnome, hence the idiots/feature slut comment
[04:57] <bimberi> jiangguowei: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:57] <B7su4> i think so
[04:57] <B7su4> frenchy, ^
[04:58] <jiangguowei> bimberi:sorry.Ok
[04:58] <brenner> Madpilot: i haven't use kde for a while, but yeah, i sort of agree with the other comment.  one of the things i'd like in gnome is more power
[04:58] <frenchy> B7su4 how do you install yoru packages
[04:58] <Madpilot> bimberi: it's a talent I have :P
[04:58] <brenner> but then again i find it really usable
[04:59] <intelikey>         anyone know of a good calendar app.   not scheduler.  just venella cal. that has moon phase ?
[04:59] <B7su4> teriman apt-get
[04:59] <Madpilot> brenner: I'm always tinkering with my desktop details - I have since Win98 days - and I haven't found Gnome limiting yet, and the basics are far more usable than KDE, IMO
[05:00] <Xenguy> intelikey: pom == phase of moon
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> Say you downloaded a .deb.  Can you install it without using the command line and dpkg -i?
[05:00] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: not currently
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, Is that a plan for near-future releases?
[05:00] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: why?
[05:00] <intelikey> cafuego if it is the same one i dl'd the range is 500-2100  too short.
[05:00] <frenchy> B7su4 apt-get install libstdc++
[05:00] <cafuego> intelikey: Let me check
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, Possible Windows migration-candidate friend is wondering.
[05:01] <intelikey> Xenguy that is for present date   no ?
[05:01] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: I think there'll be a graphical installer for Dapper - april 2006
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, Of course, most things Synaptic will be fine, so that's nice.
[05:01] <Xenguy> intelikey: hrm, pom is in bsdgames I think
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, Perfect.  Thanks.
[05:01] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: don't fear the CLI :-)
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, I don't - I love it!
[05:02] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: I seem to remember a post on planet.ubuntu.com about the deb installer, sometime in the last two months...
[05:02] <intelikey> pom but it only shows present phase ?    doesn't it ?
[05:02] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: heheh
[05:02] <frenchy> does anyone here know if there is something like gxmms for amarok?
[05:02] <superneo> this 1 is kinda complicated ... i need xmms-jack to see/use jackd so i can then set up oddcast ...does any1 know how to do this or a "howto" that i could read ?
[05:02] <cafuego> intelikey: It's certainly got a Y2K problem
[05:02] <Xenguy> intelikey: yep
[05:02] <cafuego> "1051222 05:06  the moon is waning gibbous (65% illuminated)"
[05:02] <Xenguy> intelikey: or AFAIK
[05:03] <brenner> Madpilot: you obviously don't tinker enough. :)  it's just minor things really, like how about letting us change the panel's font color without going through a theme?  but then again, that's a pure eye candy thing
[05:03] <intelikey> k neither of those help me.  but thanks for the input Xenguy cafuego
[05:03] <dle> frenchy - vid driver.  In general I'm finding X performing rather poorly in Breezy w/ either the radeon or the fglrx driver.
[05:03] <intelikey> any other sujestions welcome.
[05:03] <Xenguy> intelikey: apt-cache search moon
[05:04] <dle> 2nd question: HOw do you configure pppoe in Breezy?
[05:04] <B7su4> frenchy, says that it can not find it
[05:04] <Madpilot> brenner: yeah, the whole theme-building thing I haven't really gotten into yet - but changing some stuff independant of the theme would be nice
[05:04] <morphix> how hard would it be to change over ubuntu install on a lower class celeron.. onto a new mobo & higher celeron, using the existing NIC & hdds as the old machine..?
[05:05] <morphix> so i dont need to reinstall the whole system again
[05:05] <frenchy> ehh thats why i stick to nvidia dle ati support kind of sucks for linux, im not sure what to tell you ive never had an ati card so i probably wont be much help
[05:05] <cdubya> hey tonyyarusso.
[05:05] <frenchy> B7su4 apt-get install libstdc++6, try that
[05:05] <sethk> morphix, odds are you could just use it as is, changing nothing
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> cdubya, Hey there.
[05:06] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, so how'd you come out with your finals?
[05:06] <intelikey> morphix as easy as changing the hardware.
[05:06] <morphix> hmm i hope
[05:06] <dle> frenchy - Yeah, it's  a bit of a mess.
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> cdubya, Well, I think I passed; we'll find out next month when marks come back.  I know some of them, and those were good.
[05:06] <cafuego> intelikey: No, mine seems to suffer from 32bit integer time_t issues.
[05:06] <B7su4> frenchy, gave me this Building dependency tree... Done
[05:06] <B7su4> libstdc++6 is already the newest version.
[05:06] <B7su4> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:06] <bimberi> ubotu tell dle about pppoe
[05:06] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, good deal. :)
[05:06] <dkelson> where can I find the udeb for the daily dapper kernel?
[05:07] <cdubya> anyone use xfce?
[05:07] <Xenguy> cdubya: yup
[05:07] <intelikey> cafuego yep
[05:07] <cdubya> Xenguy, any way to show the battery life?
[05:07] <Xenguy> cdubya: yes...
[05:07] <frenchy> hmm
[05:07] <cdubya> heh. got any tips
[05:07] <cdubya> ?
[05:07] <Xenguy> cdubya: there's a plug-in
[05:07] <cdubya> ewwww.
[05:08] <Xenguy> cdubya: ?
[05:08] <cdubya> and I'm sure it's got a very logical package name, right
[05:08] <cdubya> ?
[05:08] <cdubya> heh
[05:08] <_jason> B7su4, didn't you need libstdc++5 ?
[05:08] <dle> bimberi - THanks. I knew about pppoeconf already, and used it after my install.  However, on reboot just now, I had to run it again.  pon did not work.
[05:08] <frenchy> ok B7su4 i may have missed your complete problem, what app were you running and what error did it give you again
[05:08] <Xenguy> cdubya: it might take a little cleverness yes
[05:08] <cdubya> Xenguy, I really like it.....just want to make sure I can do everything I need to...
[05:08] <laptopzz> is it possible to get gstreamer .10 in ubu breezy?
[05:08] <eclair> cdubya: i think you could add it on the panel or something. there are a lot of stuff to monitor things like battery life, etc
[05:09] <cdubya> Xenguy, file manager never launches, is it another separate package that doesn't get install as a dep......
[05:09] <B7su4> frenchy, i  am running peerguardian...and it gives me this error peerguardnf: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:09] <cdubya> eclair, I looked, but didn't see anything....
[05:09] <Xenguy> cdubya: apt-cache search xfce |grep battery
[05:09] <cdubya> I'll have to google for the package name....
[05:09] <cdubya> Xenguy, sweet, thanks
[05:09] <Xenguy> cdubya: yw
[05:10] <dle> Xenguy - Think you're pretty smart, don't you?
[05:10] <Xenguy> dle: yeah, most of the time I rock :-)
[05:10] <cdubya> Xenguy, here's what I got.... xfce4-battery-plugin - battery monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel
[05:10] <dle> Pff!  ;-)
[05:10] <cdubya> so that's the name of the package?
[05:10] <frenchy> B7s4: and it says libstdc++6 is already installed
[05:10] <Xenguy> dle: ;P
[05:11] <intelikey> oh how cute.... i got the cutest little info box.... it is one char tall and has one line of info       [please wait]       lol
[05:11] <_jason> B7su4, frenchy you need  libstdc++5 not  libstdc++6
[05:11] <Xenguy> cdubya: apt-get it dude
[05:11] <B7su4> _jason, okay
[05:11] <B7su4> yeah it works i think
[05:11] <cdubya> Xenguy, got it....
[05:11] <frenchy> does anyone use amarok
[05:12] <_jason> frenchy, yes
[05:12] <cdubya> sweet.....
[05:13] <cdubya> works like a charm.
[05:13] <cdubya> Xenguy, is the file manager another package as well?
[05:13] <frenchy> _jason do you know of anything for amarok that is like gxmms where i can control it from an applet on the gnome-panel
[05:13] <_jason> frenchy, hrmm nope sorry
[05:13] <dkelson> How do you make a "driver floppy" for Dapper to get a kernel module for loaded that isn't compiled/included by default?
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> I'm having an issue with tpb (ThinkPad buttons).
[05:13] <frenchy> poo
[05:13] <Xenguy> cdubya: I didn't really like the native FM, so I installed a couple of others
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> I want the Access IBM (THINKPAD) button to open a terminal.
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> I got this line for /etc/tpbrc from someone else:
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> THINKPAD        /usr/bin/gnome-terminal --working-directory=%f
[05:14] <_jason> frenchy, just setup some shortcut keys, I find them a lot more convenient
[05:14] <cdubya> Xenguy, what do you use?
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> But it opens two terminals at once now.
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> Thoughts?
[05:15] <foxiness> how use this Parallels WS 2 on ubuntu ? it stop with me after Parallels-config 'ubuntu brezzy' ,i have GCC 3.4.5 and make .
[05:15] <Toba> hrm it looks like there is a new version of eog in backports
[05:15] <Toba> hopefully the bug isf ixed there
[05:16] <Xenguy> cdubya: if you have fast hardware, then I find 'krusader' very nice...
[05:16] <Xenguy> cdubya: otherwise I make do with 'emelfm'; I suppose 'konqueror' is worth a look too
[05:16] <darkness> Hey, I'm looking to buy/get another Linux distro to duel boot with ubuntu, what would pick out of these for general use, programming and possibly a part time server: FreeBSD, Fedora Core 4, SLackware or Red Hat?
[05:16] <intelikey> tonyyarusso is that the only line in /etc/tpbrc ?
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, No.
[05:17] <Madpilot> darkness: "duel-boot"? That's where the two OSes fight each other for system resources, is it? :P
[05:17] <intelikey> could ya pastebin it for us tonyyarusso
[05:17] <intelikey> !paste
[05:17] <ubotu> somebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Sure.
[05:18] <LaptopZZ> is it possible to get gstreamer .10 in ubu breezy?
[05:18] <darkness> Madpilot: I think it's dual boot... Something like that. I just want to try another Linux OS.
[05:18] <LaptopZZ> darkness: like what
[05:18] <foxiness> any one get Parallels 2 work with ubuntu ?
[05:18] <Madpilot> darkness: yes, it's spelled "dual" - I was just razzing you on your spelling :)
[05:19] <Toba> argh
[05:19] <Toba> eye of gnome is totally broken now
[05:19] <darkness> MadPilot: Hahaha, nice work. I didn't pick it up. I almost feel stupid now.
[05:19] <Toba> it won't even display folders :(
[05:19] <LaptopZZ> Toba: u on dappers or something
[05:19] <Toba> no
[05:19] <Toba> breezy
[05:19] <LaptopZZ> hm
[05:20] <LaptopZZ> howd you break it
[05:20] <Toba> backports made it worse not better
[05:20] <LaptopZZ> oh heh
[05:20] <Madpilot> darkness: it seems to be a very common spelling error, and it amuses me to point it out.... ;)
[05:20] <Toba> well, I did a distupgrade the other day and since then eye of gnome has had a buggy version
[05:20] <bimberi> yay backports
[05:20] <jason^> is there a good place to get just a standard iptables script to setup NAT but have it be default deny for incoming stuff?
[05:20] <Toba> bimberi: yay, it broke it worse :(
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6018
[05:20] <intelikey> k
[05:20] <darkness> Madpilot: I usually have alright spelling. Well, alright compared to most people I talk to.
[05:20] <LaptopZZ> Toba: download a known working package
[05:20] <makkura> I've got a strange problem showing up on two boxes...  the install never asked for a root password so I can't access su in terminals though some administration programs in unbuntu let me use them with my own password.
[05:21] <_jason> ubotu, tell makkura about root
[05:21] <Toba> well I can downgrade now
[05:21] <makkura> _jason, thanks...  can I get my very own ubotu? ;)
[05:21] <Toba> but adding more newer buggier things did not get me the hoary packages :(
[05:22] <_jason> makkura, sure
[05:22] <darkness> Hey, I'm looking to buy/get another Linux distro to dual boot with ubuntu, what would pick out of these for general use, programming and possibly a part time server: FreeBSD, Fedora Core 4, SLackware or Red Hat?
[05:22] <_jason> ubotu, tell makkura about yourself
[05:22] <Toba> say... if I add hoary repos it won't downgrade anything right?
[05:22] <Toba> it'll just give me more options
[05:22] <LaptopZZ> darkness: depends on your needs
[05:22] <eclair> makkura: try sudo ?
[05:22] <Toba> is that no correct?
[05:22] <jason^> ubotu: tell me about root
[05:22] <LaptopZZ> Toba: not totally sure..
[05:22] <intelikey> tonyyarusso there are 0 lines in that file....  they are all commented out.
[05:22] <Toba> hrm
[05:22] <darkness> LaptopZZ: I basically want to try out another OS, one that comes with a little more bundled software then Ubuntu. : )
[05:23] <Toba> the whole repositories thing is a bit confusing to me
[05:23] <LaptopZZ> darkness: debian then, its ubuntu with all you'd ever wan
[05:23] <LaptopZZ> t
[05:23] <Madpilot> darkness: there's something like 17,000 packages in the Ubuntu repos - when are you going to find time to try them all?
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Not the Thinkpad one for sure; I didn't remember if any others were left.
[05:23] <cafuego> !dstats
[05:23] <dkelson> Is there a Ubuntu equiv of http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstallerModify ?
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, That may be the only one though now that I think about it.
[05:23] <darkness> Madpilot: I have alot of time on my hands.... I also want to try something different to Ubuntu.
[05:24] <bimberi> Toba: try removing backports, apt-get update, then apt-get install --reinstall eog
[05:24] <thick-glasses> anyone install the new broadcom wireless driver with breezy?
[05:24] <darkness> LatptopZZ: I don't want to try Debian because Ubuntu is based of Debian, meaning they would be very similar.
[05:24] <cafuego> Ooh, internal error! :-)
[05:24] <norki> how can i apt-get zsnes 1.36? i don't know the filename XD
[05:24] <Toba> oh I don't need to worry about getting it down to the breezy version bimberi
[05:24] <bimberi> Toba: s/removing/commenting out/
[05:24] <Toba> I did that with force version in synaptic
[05:24] <Toba> I want the hoary version though
[05:25] <Toba> since the breezy version is not as good
[05:25] <bimberi> Toba: oh, ok :)
[05:25] <Toba> any ideas?
[05:25] <cafuego> darkness: Ubuntu probably has more bundled software than other distros.  It's just that others may have that stuff on a DVD whereas with Ubuntu you fetch it from online sources.
[05:25] <brenner> norki: the version in the breezy repo is 1.4
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Okay, yes, it would appear the only non-commented line is the one I said earlier.  Sorry.
[05:25] <intelikey> tonyyarusso yes that is the only line in the file not commented out, sorry for the 0 statement i missed it the first pass.
[05:25] <brenner> and the package is funnily enough, called zsnes
[05:25] <norki> brenner: i know.. but i want 1.36, it's faster
[05:26] <darkness> Cafuego: Ok, enough about the sfotware then. I still would like to try another Linux DIstro.
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, So any ideas what's wrong with that one?
[05:26] <cafuego> darkness: Pick one, download it, install it :-)
[05:26] <brenner> norki: then you'll have to d/load the source off the official site
[05:26] <brenner> and compile/checkinstall
[05:26] <darkness> Cafuego: Definately not downloading it... I'm going to buy it off of Ebay.
[05:26] <bimberi> Toba: only yucky ones involving force-ing things that probably won't work anyway
[05:26] <norki> brenner: ok i'll look into it. but i've never compiled a thing in my life
[05:26] <intelikey> tonyyarusso well my thoughts on the reson are proved /dev/null so i don't know what to tell ya.
[05:26] <brenner> ubotu: tell norki about source
[05:27] <megasquid> anyone good with mod rewrite?
[05:27] <Toba> it's just eye of gnome
[05:27] <Toba> I doubt anything has that as a dependency
[05:27] <brenner> hmm, bad factoid
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, What if I tried removing the options from gnome-terminal?
[05:27] <bimberi> Toba: nautilus :/
[05:27] <Toba> ew
[05:27] <Toba> nautilus is not at all what I need
[05:27] <brenner> norki: there's a wiki page on compiling
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, (btw, do you remember how to reload tpb after making changes?)
[05:27] <megasquid> ?
[05:28] <Falstius> how can I tell the nautilus cd burner where to store temporary files?  Or set any options at all.
[05:28] <norki> brenner: ta
[05:28] <bimberi> Toba: plus ubuntu-desktop and others which probably don't matter, but nautilus...
[05:28] <Toba> nautilus depends on eog?
[05:28] <Toba> wtf?
[05:28] <intelikey>  /etc/init.d/tpb restart    maybe tonyyarusso
[05:28] <Toba> argh
[05:28] <norki> i know what to compile is, but do i need to install C or something? and link and stuff like that?
[05:29] <Toba> but it's buggy and stuff :(
[05:29] <Toba> and there's really nothing I can do?
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Seems to work.
[05:29] <Toba> nooooooooooo!
[05:29] <Xenguy> norki: build-essential
[05:29] <bimberi> Toba: actually - it's a "suggests" dependency
[05:29] <Toba> ok then
[05:29] <dkelson> what version of gcc is used to compile the ubunto dapper AMD64 kernel?
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Same problem.
[05:29] <sethk> norki, the c compiler is already installed
[05:30] <bimberi> Toba: so try uninstalling and installing the hoary deb using dpkg
[05:30] <brenner> norki: actually, i can't find a wiki page. but yeah, you need buildessential (which has all that C stuff) and then add the source repos to your sources.list, and then apt-get build-dep zsnes to get all the libraries etc. it will need
[05:30] <brenner> *build-essential
[05:30] <Toba> but I don't know what version hoary had
[05:30] <Toma-> dkelson: are in dapper now?
[05:30] <dkelson> no
[05:30] <intelikey> tonyyarusso then i have no idea....
[05:30] <bimberi> Toba: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:30] <Toba> thx
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Okay, now something's up with some step of that.
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, I commented out everything now, tried that restart command, and it still opens two.  Hmm...
[05:31] <Toba> thanks bimberi
[05:31] <brenner> norki: then you can either read the README file in the source archive to work out how to compile, or use checkinstall to do all that stuff and install it for you
[05:31] <bimberi> Toba: np, good luck :)
[05:31] <norki> brenner: i've got the tar. i should prolly read up on the basic commands before i try compiling something :)
[05:31] <intelikey> tonyyarusso it's not running a script some where is it ?
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, And System > Preferences > Sessions > Current Session shows the little lifesaver ring by tpb.
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Shouldn't be to my knowledge.
[05:34] <ubuntu> ..-
[05:34] <sethk> norki, compiling from a tar file is very easy
[05:34] <brenner> norki: good idea, but here it is in a few steps: [1]  add source repos [2]  apt-get build-dep zsnes [3]  untar the source archive [4]  install checkinstall [5]  cd into the archive and type 'sudo checkinstall'
[05:35] <ubuntu_> rc-hispano.org
[05:35] <brenner> [5]  should be cd into the extracted zsnes source dir, not the archive itself
[05:35] <norki> brenner, sethk: yeah, to compile i type ./configure && gmake && gmake install
[05:36] <norki> but where do i uncompress the tar?
[05:36] <sethk> norki, gmake is only necessary on real unix systems
[05:36] <martianpenguin> hey, is there a way to log into my computer remotely and use graphical applications from another linux box?
[05:36] <Toba> hrm
[05:36] <sethk> norki, the only make on linux (well, by default) is gma,e
[05:36] <Xenguy> norki: yeah, not gmake
[05:36] <sethk> gmake, that is
[05:36] <linkd> martianpenguin: a VNC server
[05:36] <Madpilot> martianpenguin: yes
[05:36] <Toba> I want to use dpkg to install eog 2.10.0-0ubuntu1
[05:36] <Toba> what command would I use?
[05:36] <cmatheson>  martianpenguin yes, use ssh w/ x forwarding
[05:36] <martianpenguin> how bout a straight xserver?
[05:36] <sethk> norki, if it is a compressed tar file, gnu tar has a three convenience flags to extract and compress in one step
[05:36] <Xenguy> Toba: dpkg -i   ?
[05:37] <martianpenguin> oh how do i do xforwarding?
[05:37] <Toba> but what deb
[05:37] <brenner> norki: i'd seriously recommend you use checkinstall (it makes a deb for you and installs it, making for easy uninstall later)
[05:37] <Toba> and does the deb have to be in my repos
[05:37] <sethk> norki, so if it is a .tar.gz, you can extract from it with tar xvzf
[05:37] <Toba> woudl it be eog-2.10.0-0ubuntu1.deb?
[05:37] <MrProper_> martianpenguin, google "x forwarding howto"
[05:37] <brenner> norki: uncompress wherever you want.  you can remove the src dir later if you want
[05:37] <_jason> ubotu, tell norki about checkinstall
[05:37] <Xenguy> norki: checkinstall is nice
[05:37] <_jason> norki, I'd recommend checkinstall as well.  Keeps what you build in the package database so you can easily remove it if you need to
[05:38] <brenner> Toba: dpkg -i <deb file> is for *local* deb files
[05:38] <norki> thanks guys
[05:38] <Toba> ahhh!
[05:39] <sethk> norki, checkinstall is a good thing to do.
[05:39] <sethk> norki, a small extra step, can save you aggrevation later
[05:39] <sethk> norki, just adding my vote to the others
[05:39] <norki> =) good stuff
[05:41] <norki> k i've got it uncompressed to my desktop in a folder called zsnes-1.36
[05:41] <norki> now i just chdir to that
[05:41] <intelikey> man date calculators are scarce as hin's teeth
[05:41] <norki> and type checkinstall?
[05:42] <brenner> norki: have you installed the libraries etc it needs?
[05:42] <brenner> using build-dep?
[05:42] <crimsun> norki: you know that 1.400 is in Breezy/multiverse, right?
[05:42] <batman> hello does anyone know of a ftp server i can get for ubuntu
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> Why can I only run wvdial with sudo?  Otherwise it says no valid phone number, etc.
[05:42] <batman> i try apt-get install proftpd but it says package not found
[05:43] <norki> yeah i suppose i've got the libs, since 1.40 uses them
[05:43] <norki> crimsun: yeah
[05:43] <crimsun> norki: why 1.360?
[05:43] <intelikey> !repos
[05:43] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:43] <intelikey> batman ^
[05:43] <brenner> norki: then yeah, cd into it and run checkinstall
[05:43] <norki> crimsun: i wanna see if it's faster. it was on windows
[05:43] <_jason> brenner, don't you have to configure and amke first?
[05:43] <_jason> make even
[05:44] <Xenguy> !checkinstall
[05:44] <ubotu> rumour has it, checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[05:44] <brenner> _jason: not with checkinstall afaik
[05:44] <_jason> Brendon, hrmm
[05:44] <crimsun> norki: makes more sense to use hoary deb-src lines, then, since 1.360-2 is in Hoary/multiverse.
[05:44] <norki> crimsun: thanks!
[05:44] <Toba> arghhh.
[05:44] <norki> checkinstall failed btw
[05:44] <blanky> guys for some reason kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu is frickin slow for me
[05:45] <Helfax_> Anyone have success with WPA2 and Breezy?
[05:45] <badmacktuck> hello all, i found the wiki for installing firefox 1.5, but has anyone in here done it? will a semi-newb be able to do it without too many problems?
[05:45] <crimsun> Helfax_: sure.
[05:45] <blanky> whenever i drag a box around my desktop it's slow and stuff
[05:45] <crimsun> batman: use !info proftpd
[05:45] <makkura> Hi again guys :P   Does Unbuntu have anything built in for dialup?  I'm having trouble finding anything in the wiki and not seeing anything I know on the box itself.
[05:45] <bimberi> Toba: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[05:45] <batman> crimsun: thanks
[05:45] <Toba> I'm trying to get rid of backports
[05:45] <Toba> what's the best way to go about doing that?
[05:45] <Toba> it only installed like 10 things
[05:45] <Helfax_> Crimsun: Cool. I can get it to auth with wpa but not wpa2.. I also can't get it to grab an IP addrr.
[05:46] <crimsun> Helfax_: WPA2 is problematic with Breezy's wpasupplicant, but Dapper's works fine.
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> Toba: I assume just removing them from sources.list doesn't help because they'll all be newer versions than the leftover install candidates, right?
[05:46] <Toba> yes
[05:46] <Toba> I want to remove backports and downgrade to what I had
[05:47] <crimsun> Helfax_: you can download Dapper's deb-src for wpasupplicant, compile it, install it, and try it.
[05:47] <Helfax_> crimsun: I'll give that a shot. Appreciate the info!
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> Toba: Do you know which packages they are?
[05:47] <Toba> yes
[05:47] <Helfax_> This is why I love Ubuntu.
[05:47] <cdubya> I never could get WPA to work right.
[05:48] <cafuego> dapper still uses 0.45 as well, there *is* a 0.47 out there
[05:48] <Toba> http://toba.ath.cx/~eastein/pkgs.txt
[05:48] <Helfax_> cdubya: I'll let you know. I'm going to try it in a few minutes.
[05:48] <crimsun> no, I uploaded 0.47 a while ago.
[05:48] <Toba> that's the list of the ones that backports upgraded
[05:48] <cafuego> Ah, cool.
[05:48] <norki> do i use * wildcards in linux? for searching
[05:48] <Toba> you can norki
[05:48] <cdubya> Helfax_, np. I just don't use it. I got annoyed after following the instructions and still encountering problems, so I gave up.
[05:49] <norki> toba: then the file searcher is broken
[05:49] <Toba> norki: what command did you use?
[05:49] <Helfax_> cdubya: Yeah, it was a pain in the arse.
[05:49] <cafuego> crimsun: Do kernels still hardlock when you eject a card with wpasupplicant running?
[05:49] <norki> toba: places - search for files
[05:49] <Toba> tonyyarusso: any idea how to downgrade these?
[05:49] <Helfax_> Ok.. Going to try Dapper. Thanks again Crimsun.
[05:49] <Toba> norki: I've never used that, dunno
[05:49] <blanky> guys, is anyone witnessing slowness/lagginess on kubuntu-desktop? (not kubuntu, but kubuntu-desktop)
[05:49] <cdubya> Helfax_, pretty much. It was really discouraging given I followed the wiki instructs and it still didn't work.
[05:49] <Toba> I just use find on the command line
[05:50] <intelikey> norki wildcard * is wilder on *nix systems than it is on M$ systems.
[05:50] <Toba> wilder, heh
[05:50] <norki> lol
[05:50] <Helfax_> cdubya: Wireless still has a way to go in and distro of Linux.. IMHO.
[05:50] <crimsun> cafuego: can't test that (ipw2195 here)
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> Toba: I would guess apt-get install -f --reinstall package1 package2 etc
[05:50] <Helfax_> s/and/any/
[05:50] <Toba> tonyyarusso: o_0
[05:50] <Toba> so wait what?
[05:50] <Toba> remove the backports repos first and then do that?
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> Toba: The -f might not even be necessary?
[05:50] <cdubya> Helfax_, yeah, I don't find as slick of implementations, in particular with wpa
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> Toba: Right.
[05:51] <intelikey> you laugh at me.....    but  linux * = M$ *.*  :)
[05:51] <cdubya> Helfax_, that was just a really annoying issue to me....
[05:51] <Toba> ok... I'll try it
[05:51] <Helfax_> cdubya: I share your pain.
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> Toba: Because if it has to reinstall them, but the backports aren't available anymore, logically it would have to get the others, right?
[05:51] <norki> how can i show hoary repositories in synaptic?
[05:51] <Toba> tonyyarusso: I would hope so
[05:52] <norki> for finding zsnes 1.3
[05:52] <batman> ok i'm trying to install the mysqlcc for my database but its not finding the package and i have added the repository that you showed me before
[05:52] <crimsun> norki: just use http://packages.ubuntu.com/zsnesy
[05:52] <crimsun> norki: -y
[05:52] <megasquid> anyone good with mod rewrite?
[05:52] <norki> crimsun: using firefox?
[05:52] <crimsun> norki: eh?
[05:53] <Toba> odd...
[05:53] <DShepherd> does anyone have firefox 1.5 installed on breezy?
[05:53] <Toba> DIE BACKPORTS DIE.
[05:53] <Toba> it won't let me do that, tonyyarusso
[05:54] <tyler7039> _jason, can you respond in the dialog window?
[05:54] <norki> crimsun: do i add that in synaptic preferences?
[05:54] <Toba> tonyyarusso: http://toba.ath.cx/~eastein/noworky.txt
[05:54] <_jason> tyler7039, what dialog window?
[05:54] <crimsun> norki: no, it's just a reference you can use
[05:54] <tyler7039> the IM thing
[05:54] <tyler7039> its just a chat between me and you
[05:54] <_jason> tyler7039, just ask here, you need to be registered to /msg
[05:55] <blanky> GUYS MY KUBUNTU-DESKTOP IS EXTREMELY SLOW!
[05:55] <crimsun> blanky: your capslock is stuck.
[05:55] <tyler7039> well how do i install a .tar.gz
[05:55] <blanky> YEAH LET ME FIX IT SORRY
[05:55] <_jason> blanky, use gnome then
[05:55] <blanky> better
[05:55] <tyler7039> i know how to extract it
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> Toba: You're sure pmount is available outside of backports, right?
[05:55] <tyler7039> but what file do i run
[05:55] <blanky> _jason, I've used gnome, I want to try kde :)
[05:55] <norki> crimsun: can't i just apt-get it? if so, what's the syntax for it
[05:55] <_jason> tyler7039, what are you installing
[05:55] <tyler7039> limewire basic
[05:56] <drcode> hi all
[05:56] <Toba> tonyyarusso: I was pretty sure backports only included things that were in the main development tree (upgrades)
[05:56] <drcode> is there skype for llinux ?
[05:56] <blanky> _jason, it's kubuntu desktop, maybe kubuntu will be faster? If I install the OS
[05:56] <nalioth> drcode: yes there is
[05:56] <Toba> drcode: yes there is
[05:56] <Toba> :o
[05:56] <batman> ok i'm trying to install the mysqlcc for my database but its not finding the package and i have added the repository that you showed me before
[05:56] <drcode> what I need to install ?
[05:56] <_jason> ubotu, tell tyler7039 about limewire
[05:56] <seth_k|lappy> Toba, tonyyarusso, there is backports-extras, which includes programs not in the repos.
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> Toba: Unless it was something new for the next release maybe.
[05:56] <tyler7039> thank you =D
[05:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell drcode about skype
[05:56] <Toba> tonyyarusso: possibly I guess
[05:56] <crimsun> norki: you actually need to compile it due to the changes between Hoary and Breezy
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> seth_k|lappy, Ah.
[05:56] <norki> dohness.. :\
[05:57] <Toba> but I can't seem to downgrade ANY of these in this way
[05:57] <blanky> man my kde is painstakingly slow, i mean, it runs faster on a slower machine i bet
[05:57] <Toba> the way tonyyarusso said that is
[05:57] <fangorious> how do I get rid of the apt/synaptic NOT AUTHENTICATED messages?
[05:57] <Toba> even ones that are DEFINITELY in the main breezy repos
[05:57] <Toba> like xchat
[05:57] <nalioth> fangorious: don't run non official repos
[05:57] <crimsun> norki: apt-get build-dep zsnes
[05:57] <_jason> tyler7039, you'll need java first, have you installed that?
[05:57] <fangorious> nalioth: and if it's official updates from ubuntu, like perl?
[05:57] <DShepherd> does anyone have firefox 1.5 installed on breezy?
[05:57] <crimsun> norki: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/z/zsnes/zsnes_1.400-1.diff.gz http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/z/zsnes/zsnes_1.400.orig.tar.gz
[05:58] <nalioth> fangorious: then something is very wrong
[05:58] <Toba> all I wanted to do when I started out here was to downgrade eog
[05:58] <Toba> nothing more
[05:58] <Toba> ;(
[05:58] <DShepherd> gnome that is
[05:58] <drcode> its in apt-get?
[05:58] <crimsun> norki: extract it and apply the source, then generate a deb.
[05:58] <Toba> drazq: no
[05:58] <Toba> *drcode
[05:58] <Toba> not AFAIK
[05:58] <nalioth> drcode: read the info ubotu sent you
[05:58] <drcode> k
[05:58] <drcode> thanx
[05:58] <batman> crimsun, do you know of a mysql panel like mysqlcc that i can get?
[05:58] <fangorious> nalioth: wasn't there a dpkg-reconfigure type of thing similar to this when breezy went from RC to final release?
[05:58] <pashaw> DShepherd, i do
[05:58] <nalioth> fangorious: i'm not following you
[05:59] <DShepherd> pashaw: does your yelp start?
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> Toba: I'm going to check a package search to see where it is, out of curiosity.
[05:59] <Toba> which package?
[05:59] <Toba> pmount?
[05:59] <_jason> DShepherd, you installed ff1.5 and now your yelp doesn't start?
[05:59] <proubu> guys... im having a problem while running gmplayer
[05:59] <proubu> Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied
[05:59] <proubu> Try adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system startup scripts.
[05:59] <pashaw> DShepherd, ?? help?  which one you asking about the normal gnome one or Firefox one?
[05:59] <DShepherd> jason^:  I am not sure.. if it was firefox.. but I suspect it
[06:00] <fangorious> nalioth: i seem to recall a wave of people who had been using an RC of breezy were deluged with authentication problems after it went final, and there was a simple dpkg-reconfigure type solution to get the new gpg keys or something
[06:00] <DShepherd> pashaw: the one for ubuntu
[06:00] <drcode> thanx alon Natlion
[06:00] <drcode> thanx alon Natlios
[06:00] <crimsun> batman: I don't, but any multitude of searches will help you.
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> Toba: Yeah, as a test case.
[06:00] <_jason> DShepherd, did you remove firefox1.07?  yelp depends on it
[06:00] <DShepherd> pashaw: normal gnome
[06:00] <blanky> hey guys in this, when I upgrade a kernel, I dont have to copile it right? It just downloads the binary?
[06:00] <Toba> tonyyarusso: it seems to work to force version in synaptic
[06:00] <DShepherd> jason^: ahh yes I did..
[06:00] <batman> crimsun, i'm searching as we speak
[06:00] <proubu> so, can someone help me with that please?
[06:00] <Toba> however some of the other packages wouldn't work when I tried that
[06:00] <_jason> DShepherd, there's your answer :)
[06:00] <crimsun> blanky: correct, presuming you're using a deb
[06:00] <DShepherd> _jason: ok. why so..
[06:01] <Toba> because they depended on each other (xchat and xchat-common for example)
[06:01] <DShepherd> sorry jason^ I mean _jason
[06:01] <DShepherd> meant*
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> Toba: Oh?  Maybe there's a different option in apt-get for force version specifically...
[06:01] <norki> crimsun: extracted the original to desktop, then applied diff, then ran apt get
[06:02] <norki> Reading package lists... Done
[06:02] <norki> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:02] <norki> E: Unable to find a source package for zsnes
[06:02] <crimsun> norki: no. apt-get install build-essential devscripts
[06:02] <blanky> damn seriously, this isn't funny anymore, kubuntu-desktop = "teh" slowness, maybe kubuntu OS will be faster?
[06:02] <norki> i've got the essentials
[06:02] <Toba> the replacement packages from my apt-get when I first upgraded after adding backports: http://toba.ath.cx/~eastein/replacements.txt
[06:02] <crimsun> norki: afterward, ''debuild binary''
[06:02] <Toba> this is odd
[06:02] <kwtm> Is there some way to get at the KDE Hardware module under System Settings (KControl)?  Ubuntu seems to have disabled it, and I can't get the required info to get my video card working.
[06:02] <DShepherd> _jason: why does yelp depend on firefox? do you know?
[06:02] <_jason> DShepherd, if you really need to get firefox1.5: start from scratch  (undo what you did and reinstall ff1.07 along with yelp and update-manager and whatever else went away) and follow the wiki guide to installing version 1.5.
[06:02] <Toba> there's a bot doing a HEAD request on my server whenever I link a file in here
[06:03] <pete_> hi all.  I'm a 1st time ubunu installed with moderate linux skills that needs some help now that the system is up running.
[06:03] <DShepherd> _jason: ok.. thanks
[06:03] <Toba> is there some links-collector bot in here?
[06:03] <_jason> DShepherd, it uses something that firefox provides to show you the help pages
[06:03] <nalioth> Toba: you can grep the logs of this channel
[06:04] <norki> crimsun:
[06:04] <nalioth> pete_: don't ask to ask, just ask
[06:04] <norki> cannot find readable debian/changelog anywhere!
[06:04] <norki> Are you in the source code tree?
[06:04] <DShepherd> _jason: ok. I;ll google for more info. Thanks
[06:04] <norki> i am in the source tree :p
[06:04] <Toba> nalioth: what?
[06:04] <crimsun> norki: you need to be in the root of the extracted source (where you applied the diff)
[06:04] <_jason> ubotu, tell DShepherd about firefox15
[06:05] <norki> crimsun: i'm at ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop/zsnes-1.36$
[06:05] <pete_> well my install went well and the machine booted up.  I could not log in as root (disabled) but could log in as my alter ego.  1st thing I see are updates.  However, I can't get them to install/show/list,etc.  I just hear a small beep sound. nothing happens.
[06:05] <norki> the src folder is one step up
[06:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Toba about logs
[06:05] <Toba> thanks nalioth
[06:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pete_ about synaptic
[06:05] <fangorious> nalioth: any idea where I could get the keys from to re-import them?
[06:05] <nalioth> pete_: look to your private messages for info from ubotu
[06:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fangorious about gpgerr
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> Toba: I didn't see anything in the apt-get help or man about forcing version, just reinstalling.
[06:06] <pete_> i found the menu item for synaptic, but when I try to run it from the gui, i hear the beep.  nothing happens.
[06:06] <Toba> tonyyarusso: thanks for your help anyways :)
[06:06] <norki> oi why did i dl znes_1.400.orig.tar.gz
[06:06] <norki> shouldn't i apply the diff to 1.36
[06:06] <norki> ?
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> Toba: Of course, you could do apt-get remove packages && apt-get install package, but that could potentially be dangerous with dependencies maybe.
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> Toba: Oh well.
[06:06] <Toba> yeah it could
[06:07] <Toba> I'm trying to force them with synaptic one by one now
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> Toba: Sounds like fun.
[06:07] <nalioth> pete_: hit alt-f2 > "gksudo synaptic"
[06:07] <Toba> tonyyarusso: no, not really :)
[06:07] <DShepherd> _jason: thanks for the link. Do you know if this is the same situation for kde?
[06:07] <Toba> but this sure is one hell of a learning experience :)
[06:08] <fit4lfe> need help with chroot
[06:08] <proubu> can someone help me with that please?
[06:08] <_jason> DShepherd, afaik no essential apps depend on firefox being instaled.  but I don't run kde so I'm not really sure
[06:08] <fit4lfe> I set it up right I think
[06:08] <_jason> DShepherd, I don't even think kde includes firefox does it?
[06:08] <pete_> nalioth: tried to run as you said, got prompted for the password, but nothing else happened.
[06:08] <fit4lfe> but how do you start applications in chroot dir ?
[06:09] <nalioth> pete_: ok, lets got to basics.  Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[06:09] <DShepherd> _jason: I dont think by default. so its gnome's choice then to use something from firefox for yelp
[06:09] <pete_> got terminal.
[06:10] <batman> i need mysqlcc very badly can someone please help me out
[06:10] <nalioth> pete_: not type "gksudo synaptic" in the terminal and press <enter>
[06:10] <DShepherd> _jason: interesting,.. so unistalling firefox is unistalling yelp. interesting. so is this a good thing?
[06:10] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[06:10] <proubu> i need help =(
[06:10] <_jason> DShepherd, what is a good thing?
[06:10] <pete_> nalioth: prompted for password, window disappears, beep, nothing happens. :-(
[06:10] <Toba> proubu: with what?
[06:11] <fit4lfe> does anyone have chroot
[06:11] <fit4lfe> dir
[06:11] <DShepherd> _jason: doesnt it force someone to at least have firefox installed if they want to use yelp
[06:11] <fit4lfe> I need some help
[06:11] <proubu> Toba, im trying to run gmplayer (yes, gui) and i got an error
[06:11] <_jason> DShepherd, yeah I find that annoying too.
[06:11] <nalioth> pete_: something is weird. in the terminal, type "sudo apt-get update" <enter>
[06:11] <Toba> proubu: which error is that?
[06:11] <Toba> btw don't make us ask these questions
[06:11] <proubu> Toba, Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied
[06:11] <proubu> Try adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system startup scripts.
[06:11] <_jason> DShepherd, for example you can't use epiphany without firefox either.
[06:11] <Toba> just say what your problem is :)
[06:11] <nalioth> fit4lfe: you need to ask uncle google, and not ask so often in here, if anyone in here knows, they will answer
[06:11] <pete_> nalioth: pete@baseball:~$ sudo apt-get update
[06:11] <pete_> pete@baseball:~$
[06:11] <pete_> nothing.
[06:11] <Toba> proubu: hrm....
[06:11] <_smd_> I have question.  IF ican here people loggin in and out of gain on most programs but i never here them msg me... even though i have enable sounds on... what do do?
[06:12] <nalioth> pete_: then your machine is way out of whack.
[06:12] <DShepherd> _jason:really..??
[06:12] <Toba> I dunno about that one
[06:12] <DShepherd> _jason: that;s not kool..
[06:12] <Toba> are you running it as root when you are not logged in gui as root?
[06:12] <DShepherd> _jason: at all
[06:12] <Toba> that can cause some authentication issues
[06:12] <pete_> nalioth: not very reassuring for me to move from Mandrake to Ubuntu.  I had heard such wonderful things.
[06:12] <kairu0> hi all
[06:12] <Inf3ctedFx> I have ubuntu breezy, my fstab is already write it, my NTFS is already mounted automatic I can see the partitions, but I can't access as a user..
[06:12] <nalioth> pete_: you are the first person i've come in contact with that has no synaptic or apt-get
[06:12] <kairu0> has anyone been able to run enlightenment and nautlis at the same time?
[06:13] <nalioth> pete_: did your install go ok?
[06:13] <Toba> kairu0: why would you WANT to?
[06:13] <Toba> nautilus is not a very nice app
[06:13] <Inf3ctedFx> someone knowes the command to add on the fstab to allow me as a user to access?
[06:13] <intelikey> fit4lfe what are you trying to run with a special root ?
[06:13] <pete_> nalioth: seemed to go without issue.  Machine rebooted, and I logged in.  All seemed well.
[06:13] <proubu> Toba, nope... and i tried with sudo too and i just got this
[06:13] <_jason> DShepherd, I thinkgecko is the common thing they both use.  But gecko isn't available by itself.  So you need firefox installed to use it
[06:13] <Toba> read or write access, Inf3ctedFx
[06:13] <Inf3ctedFx> to read
[06:13] <proubu> Toba, vo: X11 running at 1024x768 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (":0.0" => local display) and nothing happens then
[06:13] <Toba> dunno then proubu
[06:13] <kairu0> Toba, i like enlightenment, but i want to have nautilus' desktop icons
[06:13] <nalioth> pete_: in your terminal type "apt-get --version"
[06:13] <Toba> kairu0: hrm true
[06:14] <pete_> nalioth: I can "see" synaptic in /usr/sbin/synaptic
[06:14] <Inf3ctedFx> now if I can write it will be good Toba
[06:14] <DShepherd> _jason: so what is the rationale behind this? shouldnt there be a link or section in the help that tells the user that epiphany and yelp is dependent on firefox
[06:14] <proubu> Toba, oh ok, ty anyways
[06:14] <intelikey> fit4lfe or are you trying to setup a chrooted jail for a login ?
[06:14] <Inf3ctedFx> Toba:  this is the thing, I have a lot of music on my ntfs partition
[06:14] <pete_> pete@baseball:~$ apt-get --version
[06:14] <pete_> apt <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu9 for linux i386 compiled on Oct  5 2005 13:40:08
[06:14] <pete_> Supported modules:
[06:14] <pete_> *Ver: Standard .deb
[06:14] <pete_> *Pkg:  Debian dpkg interface (Priority 30)
[06:14] <Toba> what's your current fstab line Inf3ctedFx
[06:14] <pete_>  S.L: 'deb' Standard Debian binary tree
[06:14] <pete_>  S.L: 'deb-src' Standard Debian source tree
[06:14] <Inf3ctedFx> but I cannot access
[06:14] <pete_>  Idx: Debian Source Index
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> Can someone give me a crash-course on apt-spy usage?
[06:14] <Locke> does anyone know of a good lightweight browser?
[06:14] <Toba> whoa pete
[06:14] <_jason> DShepherd, if you view the description in synaptic for each of those packages, they will include firefox
[06:14] <Toba> slow down cowboy
[06:14] <Inf3ctedFx> let me show u my current fstab Toba  hold on
[06:14] <_jason> DShepherd, ... as a dependency
[06:14] <Toba> Inf3ctedFx: pm me it
[06:14] <DShepherd> _jason: ok. but still not kool
[06:15] <nalioth> pete_: please read the /topic (and don't paste in here)
[06:15] <nalioth> pete_: did you choose the default install options or advanced?
[06:15] <pete_> how do I "read" /topic?
[06:15] <Locke> does anybody know of a good lightweight browser with flashplayer?
[06:15] <nalioth> pete_: type /topic
[06:16] <pete_> I never use irc because I lothe the interfaces and options.
[06:16] <Inf3ctedFx> Toba:  here it is -->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6020
[06:16] <intelikey> /topic
[06:16] <Toba> thanks Inf3ctedFx
[06:16] <Toba> I'll take a look at it
[06:16] <nalioth> pete_: there are dozens of irc clients with all differernt interface options
[06:16] <Inf3ctedFx> ok Toba
[06:17] <Toba> Inf3ctedFx:
[06:17] <Locke> does anyone know how to open conky other than from a terminal?
[06:17] <Toba> add user to the list of options on your ntfs partition
[06:17] <nalioth> Locke: alt-f2 > conky
[06:17] <pete_> ok, well, I guess I will play with this tomorrow and see what I can make of this.
[06:17] <pete_> thanks.
[06:17] <Inf3ctedFx> yes Toba ?
[06:17] <intelikey> hmmm /me thought the keyboard was the only interface for irc.....
[06:17] <Toba> one sec
[06:17] <Inf3ctedFx> ok
[06:17] <batman> i need libqt3c102-mt and i search in the synaptic package manager and have no luck
[06:17] <nalioth> intelikey: you dont have a DNI ?
[06:17] <nalioth> batman: what do you need it for?
[06:17] <intelikey> who ?
[06:17] <batman> mysqlcc
[06:17] <intelikey> what's a dni ?
[06:17] <nalioth> intelikey: Direct Neural Interface
[06:18] <intelikey> lol
[06:18] <intelikey> not for irc
[06:18] <nalioth> batman: if you open a console and use apt t0 intall that, it'll tell you the file that replaces it
[06:19] <Locke> does anyone know how to hide a terminal window on the open windows panel?
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> Is the Ubuntu mirror list available in a plain-text file somewhere?
[06:19] <cafuego> is mysqlcc the gui admin tool?
[06:19] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: just look on the Web site
[06:20] <Toba> hrm
[06:20] <Toba> this isn't too good
[06:20] <batman> says unable to lock the administration then asks if another process is using it
[06:20] <Inf3ctedFx> r u talking to me Toba ?
[06:20] <batman> admin directory*
[06:20] <nalioth> batman: use sudo or close all your apt instances
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, I see a list at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive, but I want one as a file to use as an argument for apt-spy.
[06:20] <Toba> Inf3ctedFx: no
[06:20] <Inf3ctedFx> uff ok lol
[06:20] <Locke> does anyone know how to hide a window on the open windows panel?
[06:20] <Toba> I'm worrying about downgrading xchat with synaptic
[06:20] <Toba> hrm...
[06:20] <Kris> Hello, I'm trying to find a way to open a remote X session on my ubuntu box from my windows PC
[06:20] <Inf3ctedFx> why do u want to donwgrade?
[06:20] <fangorious> nalioth: that fixed it, no more auth errors. thanks.
[06:21] <Locke> ...
[06:21] <Kris> can anyone recommend a good XP friendly remote client?
[06:21] <Toba> Inf3ctedFx: meh, I guess I *can* leave it, but I'd rather get rid of backports entirely
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> Kris: I haven't tried it yet, but someone told me a good remote access program (cross-platform) was TightVNC.
[06:21] <Toba> Kris: VNC?
[06:21] <batman> nalioth, says that the package isn't available but is referred to by another package
[06:21] <Inf3ctedFx> backports?
[06:21] <Kris> ok I'll look that up thanks :)
[06:21] <Toba> Inf3ctedFx: if you don't know what it is you will have a hard time helping me out :)
[06:22] <nalioth> batman: i can't remember the name but there is a package that replaces it
[06:22] <Inf3ctedFx> lol I have an idea abot linux....
[06:22] <Toba> ubotu: tell Inf3ctedFx about backports
[06:22] <batman> nalioth, will you please find out i really need to get my server up and running asap
[06:22] <Toba> whoever made ubotu is a genius, btw
[06:22] <Toba> it's exactly what this channel needs
[06:23] <Adross> pony's?
[06:23] <Inf3ctedFx> Toba:  u r absolutly right
[06:23] <Kris> woot I found it http://www.tightvnc.com/
[06:23] <Kris> thanks all :)
[06:24] <Toba> unfortunately downgrading is somewhat difficult :(
[06:26] <DShepherd> does anyone have any prob with me pasting too lines?
[06:26] <Adross> no
[06:27] <Adross> but if there's three, God help us
[06:27] <Adross> God help us all
[06:27] <DShepherd> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the plugin manager
[06:27] <DShepherd> System error?:: Success
[06:27] <_jason> DShepherd, you used one up with the question so I guess you are down to one now
[06:27] <Victorjiang> how can I install a deb package on ubuntu?What command should I use?
[06:27] <_jason> DShepherd, what browser?
[06:27] <DShepherd> I get that when I try to start firefox
[06:27] <DShepherd> 1.0.7
[06:27] <Toba> which version
[06:28] <_jason> DShepherd, does it still run?
[06:28] <Toba> which ubuntu version are you using?
[06:28] <DShepherd> _jason: nope.
[06:28] <DShepherd> Toba: breezy
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> Why does the mirrors list at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive not include the official country mirrrors, i.e. ei.archive.ubuntu.com?
[06:28] <Toba> odd
[06:28] <_jason> DShepherd, mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_backup
[06:28] <_jason> DShepherd, then try again
[06:28] <DShepherd> _jason: ok
[06:28] <Helfax> Hey people.. Is http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/ the right site to get a working version of wpa_supplicant for breezy?
[06:28] <Inf3ctedFx> brb
[06:29] <DShepherd> _jason: should I reinstall after,,?
[06:29] <_jason> DShepherd, not if this works
[06:29] <Helfax> I've tried the wpa-howto without success and someone suggested compiling it from src.
[06:29] <DShepherd> _jason: ok.. going to try resintall then
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> I'm also still wondering about the mirror speed checking tool I used before besides apt-spy; it was net-something I think.
[06:30] <poimen> hi I have writen a little howtoo about instaliing xdvdshink on breezy to backup comertial dvds to dvd5 someone kwons were I can post it?
[06:30] <pashaw> Victorjiang,  dkpkg -i
[06:31] <batman> nalioth, i figured it out thanks libqt3c102-mt was replaces with libqt3-mt, thus just install libqt3-mt.
[06:31] <pashaw> Victorjiang, sorry typo   dpkg -i
[06:32] <cafuego> poimen: The wiki
[06:32] <Victorjiang> pashaw :thanks a lot
[06:32] <DShepherd> _jason: purged.. installed.. same error
[06:32] <cafuego> Helfax: No. You could try building the dapper source deb on breezy though (that's version 0.47 now)
[06:33] <batman> does anyone here know of a mysql admin panel i can download?
[06:33] <Victorjiang> who can give me a lower version snmpd?I can't install snmpd_5.1.2 on my dapper flight2.
[06:33] <cafuego> batman: 'sudo apt-get install mysql-admin'.
[06:33] <batman> cafuego, is that what replaced mysqlcc?
[06:33] <cafuego> batman: Maybe, I dunno.
[06:34] <Toba> adding hoary main repositories to a breezy install and then doing an apt-get update;apt-get upgrade should do nothing, right?
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> netselect!  That was it.
[06:34] <batman> cafuego, does that automatically add it to the control panel
[06:34] <batman> cafuego, nvm it does thanks a lot
[06:35] <cafuego> Toba: maybe
[06:35] <DShepherd> _jason: starting yelp gives me the same error too. No firefox is installed... on my system
[06:35] <Toba> ah, I do love a decisive answer like that one :)
[06:35] <Chousuke> Shouldn't, anyway
[06:35] <Toba> at least you didn't say yes with false confidence though
[06:35] <Chousuke> but I wouldn't put the sources there.
[06:35] <cafuego> Toba: definitely possibly ;-)
[06:35] <Toba> lol
[06:36] <Toba> Chousuke: see, I drastically need to downgrade to the hoary version of eye of gnome.
[06:36] <Toba> and I can't do that if it isn't in my repositories :(
[06:36] <intelikey> sure maybe.
[06:36] <Chousuke> Toba: You'll probably have to downgrade gnome too
[06:36] <DShepherd> can someone tell me why yelp is so dependent on firefox and is the same for dapper?
[06:36] <Toba> o_0
[06:36] <Toba> eek
[06:37] <jiangguowei> who can give me a snmpd package that could be installed on dapper flight2?
[06:37] <Chousuke> unless you recompile the older version against breezy libs.
[06:37] <DShepherd> can someone tell me why yelp is so dependent on firefox and is this the same for dapper?
[06:37] <Toba> ok upgrade did nothing as I expected
[06:37] <batman> cafuego, am i able to manage my tables etc.. with mysql administrator? cause thats what i'm looking for and it doesn't seem to show anything of the type
[06:37] <Toba> now to try forcing eog down
[06:37] <Kris> does anyone know if there's a version of tightvnc in the apt-get archives for ubuntu?
[06:37] <b00gz> I cannot get my ndiswrapper to install ... I get an error on make install
[06:37] <c0_cyber> hellooooooo.............////////??????????>>><<<<
[06:38] <Kris> or better yet could anyone tell me how to check if there's such and such package out there regardless of what the package is?
[06:38] <cafuego> batman: Yep, that's what it's for.
[06:38] <intelikey> Kris apt-cache search <blah?>
[06:38] <Toba> woot
[06:38] <Toba> it works
[06:38] <Kris> thanks intelikey
[06:38] <b00gz> I cannot get my ndiswrapper to install ... I get an error on make install http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5982 someone please help!
[06:38] <Toba> and it didn't force me to downgrade gnome
[06:38] <SweetestSavage> Question: Can programs built for KDE be used on GNOME? (EG, Konqueror)?
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> Kris: Yes, there is.  Do as intelikey said.
[06:38] <batman> cafuego, know if i could just install phpmyadmin?
[06:39] <Toba> b00gz: ndiswrapper is a curse upon humanity, nobody hears your screams
[06:39] <owner989> sweetest yes they can
[06:39] <owner989> they use the kde libs
[06:39] <b00gz> Toba: wtf does that mean?
[06:39] <SweetestSavage> Oh, okay.
[06:39] <intelikey> Kris if you run a gui use synaptic to search....
[06:39] <owner989> install with synaptic
[06:39] <SweetestSavage> Thanks
[06:39] <Kris> cool it works! much better than compiling :)
[06:39] <Toba> b00gz: it means that nobody has yet got ndiswrapper to work on the first try
[06:39] <b00gz> Toba: well I am on my 3rd try please help.
[06:40] <Toba> I NEVER got it to work :(
[06:40] <Kris> my linux box is currently in the corner behind my christmas tree >.< so I'm just trying to set up an X server so I can connect to the gui remotely hehe
[06:40] <Toba> turned out my wifi card was fried
[06:40] <jiangguowei>  who can give me a snmpd package that could be installed on dapper flight2?
[06:40] <Toba> Kris: ahhahaha
[06:40] <b00gz> Toba: my card works in windows just fine...
[06:40] <Toba> b00gz: good luck with that :(
[06:40] <b00gz> Toba: :(
[06:40] <Toba> yeah :(
[06:40] <SweetestSavage> b00gz - Windows and Linux are two different things >.>
[06:40] <b00gz> SweetestSavage: I know this.
[06:40] <Toba> SweetestSavage: yes, and the people who wrote ndiswrapper seem to think otherwise :o
[06:40] <Chousuke> SweetestSavage: Actually..
[06:40] <SweetestSavage> xD
[06:41] <Toba> they are so wrong...
[06:41] <Chousuke> Linux works except when it doesn't, and windows works except when it doesn't
[06:41] <SweetestSavage> Haha. Well, Linux works more consistently than Windows does.
[06:41] <Chousuke> True It also not works  more consistently
[06:42] <Chousuke> +.
[06:42] <DShepherd> can someone tell me why yelp is so dependent on firefox and is this the same for dapper?
[06:42] <Chousuke> maybe it uses the rendering engine
[06:42] <Helfax> Can someone explain what dapper is?
[06:42] <intelikey> Chousuke actually i find it  windows works when it works and linux works except when i mess it up.
[06:42] <`23meg> Helfax, dapper is the next version of ubuntu, under development
[06:42] <M_Cheevy> helfax: dapper is short for Dapper Drake the next version
[06:42] <MrProper_> Chousuke, linux is only complicated to people who come from a windows background, most things are alot more logical with linux then windows
[06:42] <SweetestSavage> intelikey - Exactly, Linux works and you know what happens. Windows quits when it feels like it.
[06:43] <Helfax> Ah. Ok. I apologize for the lame question. Thanks though.
[06:43] <teamorph> wow! new Ubuntu version?
[06:43] <lysis> M_Cheevy, how far along is dapper running?
[06:43] <Toba> MrProper_: true.
[06:43] <SweetestSavage> Err, When Linux doesn't work you know *
[06:43] <lysis> teamorph, ubuntu has a new release on a schedule of every 6 months i believe.
[06:43] <M_Cheevy> lysis: ain't running it.
[06:43] <lysis> M_Cheevy, fair enough.  wasn't sure if you've kept up on it.
[06:43] <Chousuke> MrProper_: I agree.
[06:43] <Myrtti> April
[06:43] <Toba> SweetestSavage: you may know what happened but you often have to know a TON to fix it :)
[06:43] <teamorph> ok
[06:43] <Helfax> Someone said that the dapper version of wpa_supplicant worked better than the one in breezy.
[06:43] <teamorph> I remember
[06:43] <MrProper_> Toba, much to my dismay coming originally from a windows admin background.....i was surprised how long it took to drop bad (windows) habbits
[06:43] <SweetestSavage> Toba: Very true. =/
[06:43] <Memphis> hello
[06:43] <jiangguowei>  who can give me a snmpd package that could be installed on dapper flight2?
[06:43] <Toba> MrProper_: oh yes I know.
[06:44] <pashaw> DShepherd, go ask the yelp devs   they set the reqs.
[06:44] <Toba> I was a windows user not six months ago
[06:44] <SweetestSavage> Toba: Linux is more orientated to users who are tagged as "advanced" when it comes to computers, though.
[06:44] <lysis> i see many posts in the forums regarding people wanting it to be prettier . . .   i on the other hand have problems where certain programs become unstable after x amount of hours of usage.  i'm confident that's more important. :)
[06:44] <teamorph> Guys! I have just installed Ubuntu
[06:44] <MrProper_> Toba, a ton to fix is better then reinstalling a production system
[06:44] <M_Cheevy> lysis: got enough on my hands with sata raid 0  and multi-os machines ;)
[06:44] <Toba> it takes some getting used to
[06:44] <teamorph> i am .... mmmmmm lamer in it
[06:44] <Kris> ugh, I hate when a program won't start because a font is missing
[06:44] <DShepherd> pashaw: ok
[06:44] <Toba> MrProper_: true :)
[06:44] <Vaske_Car> is P3 750mhz with 256mb of SDRAM enought for Ubuntu and file server?
[06:44] <SweetestSavage> Toba: Yeah, it does take getting used to. I've been using Linux for 4 days now, I've been a Windows user for 10 years.
[06:44] <Toba> Vaske_Car: should be.
[06:44] <Chousuke> Vaske_Car: Yes.
[06:44] <Kris> Fatal server error:
[06:44] <Kris> could not open default font 'fixed'
[06:44] <pashaw> DShepherd,  does your newer firefox install work?
[06:44] <Kris> >.<
[06:44] <sells> anyone have any issues with getting .m4a to play in linux
[06:44] <lysis> M_Cheevy, ha!  i've got one of those cute little cube computrs . . . . i effing hate it. lol   i can't wait for a tower again.
[06:44] <MrProper_> Vaske_Car, depends on what kind of volume your throughputting
[06:44] <Toba> SweetestSavage: hehe
[06:44] <teamorph> toba - the same i did
[06:44] <charles> Can someone help me with a problem please?
[06:44] <Vaske_Car> It will not be that busy...
[06:44] <lysis> M_Cheevy, long story short . . . no room for raid anything.
[06:44] <tonyyarusso> sells: Other than getting w32codecs, no.
[06:44] <lysis> charles, just ask it my friend.
[06:44] <MrProper_> charles, dont ask  to ask just ask
[06:45] <M_Cheevy> lysis: I'm running on a tower... wouldn't think of doing multiprocessor on anything small ;)
[06:45] <charles> Well, I'm a "noob" with Ubuntu.  Just installed it tonight as a matter of fact.
[06:45] <Vaske_Car> im more interested if that CPU can handle Ubuntu because its pretty old CPU..
[06:45] <intelikey> Chousuke yeah all software sux cept for that that i write   (every mama crow's little crow is always the blackest crow)
[06:45] <b00gz> Anyone know any other way to make wireless card work other than ndiswrapper
[06:45] <Kris> Vaske_Car, damn near any cpu can handle ubuntu
[06:45] <sells> tonyyarusso: i am certain i installed the right codec. rhythmbox quits unexpectedly
[06:45] <teamorph> the fact is. That i want to use it more
[06:45] <DShepherd> pashaw: well I unistalled that one when installing 1.0.7 was starting. so yeah it worked before.
[06:45] <cafuego> b00gz: magic
[06:45] <Kris> it's more a matter of how fast you want it to run
[06:45] <Vaske_Car> thanks
[06:45] <charles> Anyway, I screwed up my sudo and am getting this error: sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440
[06:45] <b00gz> cafuego: =/
[06:46] <batman> does anyone here know about installing phpmyadmin?
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> sells: That I haven't heard of.
[06:46] <Kris> I'd recommend a 300mhz or higher cpu in my experience running it
[06:46] <blanky> in console how do I list the processes
[06:46] <lysis> M_Cheevy, i don't want to upgrade until either the AMD M2 chipset is out and their athlon XPs are cheaper, OR intel comes out with their processors that have virtualization built in. (both in 2Q of 06)
[06:46] <charles> I don't know how to change it back to 440
[06:46] <Kris> I've got a 500mhz box that runs it with no probs
[06:46] <cafuego> b00gz: If it's not supported it's not supported... short of writing a driver yourself there's nothing you can do about it.
[06:46] <lysis> i'm not sure which route i want to go . . . but built in VT would be KICK AY!
[06:46] <Vaske_Car> and for security it it enought to have router and firestarte or I should install realtime antivirus scanner too?
[06:46] <sells> tonyyarusso: yeap, not fun
[06:46] <b00gz> cafuego: what about getting ndiswrapper to work?
[06:46] <teamorph> by the way How to run my avi's DivX 5.0
[06:46] <M_Cheevy> well folks.. having definately problems with CD/DVD ejects... icon shows up on the desktop, but when I close all apps using the drive I still can't eject.   if I use the terminal and 'sudo eject' though it works... from what I've gathered this is not a good way to do it..  any ideas where I start to need to fix this?
[06:46] <ReNt-2-OwN> how do i login as root
[06:47] <sells> tonyyarusso: i cant get xmms to play them,  cant get amarok to play them
[06:47] <intelikey> MrProper_ dsl is nice.   i've ran it on a p1 with 32m ram and 100m hd  :)
[06:47] <cafuego> Vaske_Car: On a normal ubuntu desktop install you need neither a firewall nor anti-virus.
[06:47] <poningru> ReNt-2-OwN: why do you want to login as root?
[06:47] <sells> tonyyarusso: i pulled them directly from my ipod
[06:47] <poningru> we use sudo
[06:47] <Vaske_Car> i know that new version come with firestarte
[06:47] <cafuego> !tell teamorph -about restrictedformats
[06:47] <poningru> but if you really want to
[06:47] <ReNt-2-OwN> poningru: for admin privileges
[06:47] <poningru> !tell ReNt-2-OwN about root
[06:47] <lysis> ok . . . wtf.  i am having SERIOUS effing problems with my flash drive.
[06:47] <Vaske_Car> but im not sure if ubuntu should be protected from viruses as well
[06:47] <poningru> ReNt-2-OwN: did you get that?
[06:48] <MrProper_> intelikey, yeah, its just nice to have a distro now and again that you can just add on basic x with twm with xterm ehhe
[06:48] <sells> tonyyarusso: now amarok won't even start up
[06:48] <lysis> i delete everything on it.  i empty trash.  it shows 480mb free.  i copy a bunch of stuff over to it (windows exe files)   i put it in a laptop i'm repairing.   it has NONE of the files.
[06:48] <ReNt-2-OwN> poningru: yes
[06:48] <lysis> rm: cannot lstat `.Trash-lysis/Utilities/Trend Micro PC-Cillin Internet Security 2005/p\n|l.': Input/output error
[06:48] <Kris> ok i've installed tightvnc server on my ubuntu box, but it won't start because a font is missing.    CRUZERmini is the drive i've got. 512mb
[06:49] <teamorph> Ok! i'll try do it. THX
[06:49] <Vaske_Car> ehehe
[06:49] <intelikey> i'm so minimalist. i even remove 'base system' from my linux.
[06:49] <Kris> Linux is just as vulnerable to viruses as Windows, the difference is that no self respecting hacker wants to take the time to write a virus for linux :p
[06:49] <Badm4n> after i do at-get install centericq | why it wont be auto reconnect on disconnect... any idea ( ubuntu 5.10 )
[06:49] <sells> MrProper: cool. just dont understand, cant get my .m4a files to play on nothing in linux
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> sells: I found these packages that seem related: bmp-mp4 faad gstreamer0.8-faad libfaad2-0 libmp4v2-0 xmms-mp4
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> sells: Any of that useful?
[06:49] <servoe> hi
[06:49] <pashaw> Kris,  you did what?   remote desktop should have been preinstalled on Ubuntu  you didnt need to add another VNC server
[06:50] <sells> tonyyarusso: will try, thanks a bunch
[06:50] <charles> Any advice on fixing my sudo?
[06:50] <teamorph> kaffeine, ammaroke - enough for movies
[06:50] <Kris> pashaw cool, how do I use it? >.<
[06:50] <Kris> or better yet, where do I find instructions lol
[06:50] <pashaw> Kris,   System-> Prefs-> Remote Desktop
[06:50] <Vaske_Car> Kris you from Canada?
[06:50] <cafuego> Kris: Actually no, it's inherently more secure.
[06:50] <M_Cheevy> teamorph: personally I prefer xine over kaffiene
[06:51] <Kris> pashaw, my linux box is behind my christmas tree is there a command line version I can access from ssh?
[06:51] <intelikey> Kris really linux is not as 'vulnerable to viruses as Windows' but it is vulnerable to viruses.
[06:51] <sciboy> Hey guys, taking a second try at trying to get my Epson C45 to print ANYTHING. I am running Debian Unstable but i am yet to find a solution even after enquiring in #debian. I look at dmesg after plugging it in and this shows up. "lp: driver loaded but no devices found", also running lsusb "Bus 003 Device 002: ID 04b8:0005 Seiko Epson Corp. Stylus Printer".
[06:51] <Kris> Vaske_Car, nope, Portland, Oregon, USA
[06:51] <b00gz> how do I install pcmcia wireless card after putting it in after boot up
[06:51] <cafuego> sciboy: go to http://localhost:631/ and run through the 'Add Printer' wizard. Done.
[06:51] <Kris> there is less threat of viruses on linux because there are less people actively seeking out security holes in it
[06:52] <cafuego> sciboy: (make sure CUPS is installed)
[06:52] <charles> lysis... you responded earlier.  Any advice?
[06:52] <sciboy> cafuego: Dude, i've done that, over 60 times now.
[06:52] <Badm4n> hello
[06:52] <cafuego> Kris: Actually I think there are rather more.
[06:52] <servoe> WiFI Question: I have Ralink, I entered the stanza from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo#wpa, and typed sudo ifdown ra0 && ifup ra0, and I got: ""ifdown: interface ra0 not configured "" ifup: failed to open statefile /etc/network/run/ifstate: Permission denied"
[06:52] <DShepherd> great!. now I have no firefox and no yelp :(. anyways... thanks pashaw, Toba and _jason.
[06:52] <servoe> :/
[06:52] <teamorph> M-Cheevy - thx a lot
[06:52] <lysis> charles, what's the problem buddy? sorry.  i ran into one of my own.  i saw "how should i fix my sudo"
[06:52] <M_Cheevy> anyone feel up to debugging a cd/dvd eject permissions problem?
[06:52] <intelikey> kris that's not the only thing the write permissions of the fs help too
[06:52] <M_Cheevy> teamorph: no worries
[06:52] <Toba> DShepherd: np
[06:52] <sciboy> cafuego: "Printer State: stopped, accepting jobs, published. "
[06:52] <jrattner1> Is the new firefox in the repositories?
[06:52] <teamorph> ;-)
[06:52] <sciboy> cafuego: Can't get it to even print a test page.
[06:52] <cafuego> sciboy: Start teh printer
[06:52] <Badm4n> after i do at-get install centericq | why it wont be auto reconnect on disconnect... any idea ( ubuntu 5.10 )
[06:53] <sciboy> cafuego: It Stops a second later.
[06:53] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo:  you there man?
[06:53] <SweetestSavage> Question: What exactly is the big difference between distributions? And, could some examples be provided?
[06:53] <charles> I screwed up my permissions and am getting this error: sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440
[06:53] <lysis> hmmm
[06:53] <charles> and I need to get the sudo back
[06:53] <sciboy> cafuego: It shows no signs of activity, and mtink is able to check ink levels fine. =/
[06:53] <b00gz> how do I install pcmcia wireless card after putting it in after boot up
[06:53] <lysis> do you have a ubuntu LIVE CD available?
[06:53] <Kaltherz> Hi !!
[06:53] <Kris> ok ok fine I'll dig out my linux box and attempt to get to the desktop
[06:53] <charles> yes
[06:54] <teamorph> see ya guys!
[06:54] <Kaltherz> see ya...
[06:54] <Kris> cya teamorph
[06:54] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo:  you still breathing?
[06:54] <sciboy> cafuego: People have reported success with this printer with multiple gutenprint drivers, so i'm putting my money more into a connection/detection issue of some sort.
[06:54] <eclair> teamorph: see ya
[06:54] <Kaltherz> My question is... Is there anyway to run kde in ubuntu ?
[06:54] <lysis> charles, boot off of the live cd.  open a terminal.   sudo -s       the password is blank.             type chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers           that SHOULD fix.
[06:54] <SweetestSavage> Question: Does anyone know how to compile WINE in 32-bit mode on Ubuntu AMD64?
[06:55] <intelikey> charles have you tried 'chmod 440 /etc/sudoers ' ?
[06:55] <SweetestSavage> cafuego, oh don't worry =P I know, I know.
[06:55] <Vaske_Car> what should I install to be able to access and have Cpanel on my linux server?
[06:55] <charles> intelikey: yes... and get this: chmod: changing permissions of `/etc/sudoers': Operation not permitted
[06:55] <lysis> Vaske_Car, you would need to PURCHASE Cpanel from cpanel.
[06:55] <Kaltherz> My question is... Is there anyway to run kde in ubuntu ?
[06:56] <sciboy> cafuego: "lp: driver loaded but no devices found
[06:56] <Kris> ok I've got the ubuntu remote desktop running, now how do i actually connect to it from my windows box?
[06:56] <sciboy> " is my only lead at the moment.
[06:56] <SweetestSavage> cafuego, it's eventually going to be the higher-end CPU (64-bit, that is) once more support for it is available, so I decided to jump on the early-bandwagon
[06:56] <lysis> intelikey, he can't SU or SUDO to do so.  he needs to boot off of the ubuntu live cd to easily do this.  he stated he has one so i gave him directions to do so.
[06:56] <jah_raztah> for those whom have tried ubuntu dapper flight cd 2 can someone tell me if it's stable enough to use
[06:56] <Vaske_Car> iysis: is there anything open source that is similar and can be used to manage and install forum?
[06:56] <pashaw> Kaltherz, yes  install Kubuntu instead, or  apt -> kde   or  apt -> kubuntu-desktop   think that covers it
[06:56] <charles> thanks lysis... I'll try that and will be back  if it doesn't work.
[06:56] <intelikey> k making sure you didn't own it too... charles you will have to boot to single and run the chmod then reboot.
[06:56] <Kaltherz> ...
[06:56] <lysis> charles, come back and let us know either way.
[06:56] <Kaltherz> can be...
[06:56] <charles> will do. thanks.
[06:57] <jrattner1> Is the new firefox in the repositories
[06:57] <lysis> anytime. :)
[06:57] <b00gz> how do I install pcmcia wireless card after putting it in after boot up
[06:57] <Kaltherz> and now another thing
[06:57] <ReNt-2-OwN> if i go under System > Administration and try to run anything it says "Failed to run 'thing i tryed to run' as root: Child terminated with 1 message" and now some things work and others just give me the busy cursor for a minute and not start at all
[06:57] <Kaltherz> do you know who the hell can i catch xmule or amule ?
[06:57] <lysis> intelikey, if he would've owned it it wouldn't hvae given him the "Operation not permitted" error. :)
[06:57] <batman> ok this is a dumb question but how do i access phpmyadmin when i have it installed?
[06:57] <Vaske_Car> lysis: is there anything open source that is similar and can be used to manage and install forum?
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> !tell jrattner1 about firefox15
[06:57] <Kris> batman, you go to the directory you installed it to on your web server
[06:58] <lysis> Vaske_Car, if you just want a FORUM, use phpbb    it's free and works on linux.
[06:58] <intelikey> lysis yes it will.  the mod 777 trips the error.
[06:58] <SweetestSavage> Question: What kind of support does Ubuntu have for hardware sound-card acceleration? I can't seem to install my sound-card.. and it's using software acceleration right now, which is really laggy and slow
[06:58] <Vaske_Car> also when I install cpanel do I need to run separately MySql server or Cpanel control and install it automatically
[06:58] <b00gz> how do I install WPC11 pcmcia wireless card after putting it in after boot up
[06:58] <lysis> intelikey, hmmm  . . . i didn't think that could happen.  why would mod 777 break it?
[06:58] <Kris> so if it's installed to /documentroot/phpMyAdmin/ you would go to http://mywebsite/phpMyAdmin/
[06:58] <Kris> etc
[06:58] <M_Cheevy> how do I get a quick list of who's using a device?
[06:58] <batman> Kris, well.. i go to synaptic and search for phpmyadmin it shows i have it installed but when i search for phpmyadmin in the search it doesn't come up o.O
[06:58] <intelikey> lysis security test
[06:59] <Kris> dunno what to tell you batman, I always install it manually
[06:59] <Kaltherz> pashaw, do you know of any other repository to add ?
[06:59] <batman> Kris, do you know where i can find a guide to install it manually?
[06:59] <Kris> yes, check the phpmyadmin web site
[06:59] <ReNt-2-OwN> if i go under System > Administration and try to run anything it says "Failed to run 'thing i tryed to run' as root: Child terminated with 1 message" and now some things work and others just give me the busy cursor for a minute and not start at all
[07:00] <batman> Kris, does it go through the steps on a linux server though
[07:00] <Kris> http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/index.php
[07:00] <Kris> it's the same on both windows and linux
[07:00] <sciboy> cafuego: CUPSYS Web Administration Error: server-error-device-error
[07:00] <intelikey> if it is 777 it is world writable lysis which is vertually the same as $USER=root  because anyone can modify the file that allows root access.   so sudo fails if it is ##4 or higher.
[07:01] <Kris> to install it you must first have a web server (preferably apache) and a database (preferably MySQL) running
[07:01] <pppoe_dude> hi anyone know why when I try to delete songs from my mp3 player (usb) they stay on the device but don't show when the device is mounted?
[07:01] <pppoe_dude> (its a vfat fs
[07:01] <pashaw> Kalthers, Help-> starter guide-> installing apps       scroll down Universe/Multiverse     and/or  use Automatix
[07:01] <Kris> can anyone help me figure out how to use the remote desktop server that comes with ubuntu?
[07:01] <lysis> intelikey, interesting . . .   so if the sudo ?program? (binary whatever it's called) is set for world useage then that would be a security error and you wouldn't be able to run it because the kernel knows better?
[07:01] <biovore> anyone know when xorg 7.0 will be used in the current release?
[07:01] <pppoe_dude> thanks
[07:02] <Kaltherz> i have added both Universe/Multiverse
[07:02] <intelikey> lysis not the binary  but the config file /etc/sudoers   yes
[07:02] <Kaltherz> but i will try with automatix
[07:02] <lysis> intelikey, ok config file . . .   see without file extension i'm still always a bit confused as to what is what.
[07:02] <pppoe_dude> on ubuntu it seems as if the files deleted fine,
[07:02] <pppoe_dude> but they still play on the mp3 player
[07:02] <intelikey> the binary /usr/bin/sudo is world exec
[07:02] <pashaw> Kaltherz,  you then did a reload  in Synapti
[07:03] <pppoe_dude> ubuntu just doesnt see them anymore
[07:03] <lysis> pashaw, i'm told that automatix shouldn't be recommended as it has several issues and may sometimes break machines.
[07:03] <Kaltherz> but...
[07:03] <servoe> WiFI Question: I have Ralink, I entered the stanza from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo#wpa, and typed sudo ifdown ra0 && ifup ra0, and I got: ""ifdown: interface ra0 not configured "" ifup: failed to open statefile /etc/network/run/ifstate: Permission denied"
[07:03] <pashaw> lysis,   fair enough
[07:03] <lysis> although myself on the other hand don't have problems with it other than it not installing all of the software i request. :)
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[07:03] <Kaltherz> to write in the personal repository
[07:03] <c0_cyber> f
[07:04] <lysis> fabbione, i thank you . . .
[07:04] <pashaw> lysis, yeah i used it today again and all went fine for me
[07:04] <intelikey> lysis rule of thumb on that binaries are in *bin/   there are exceptions of course.
[07:04] <fabbione> no problem
[07:04] <lysis> pashaw, it just didn't install silly things like limewire and azureus.  other than that i'm golden.
[07:04] <pppoe_dude> anyone
[07:04] <ReNt-2-OwN> if i go under System > Administration and try to run anything it says "Failed to run 'thing i tryed to run' as root: Child terminated with 1 message" and now some things work and others just give me the busy cursor for a minute and not start at all
[07:04] <pppoe_dude> tried google to no avail
[07:04] <UncleD> Anyone here running named on their ubuntu machine and using it as a nameserver for domains to point to?
[07:04] <Kris> pashaw, could you help me figure out how to use this remote desktop thing you pointed me to?
[07:05] <pashaw> lysis, same here  just went after the basics
[07:05] <Kaltherz> thanks a lot pashaw
[07:05] <lysis> pashaw, ahh . . .
[07:05] <Kaltherz> i must leave
[07:05] <biovore> anyone know when xorg 7.0 will be used in the current release?
[07:05] <Kaltherz> bye bye !!
[07:05] <pashaw> Kris, ok   i havent used it myself  take a sec to give it a go
[07:06] <mrkoje> UncleD, thats on my list of things to do
[07:06] <lysis> intelikey, that makes sense . . .    i just still sometimes have problems with all the different things.  like, if you download a program, you can just put the program into the /usr/local/bin and it'll work without having to install it sometimes
[07:06] <lysis> charles how'd that work?
[07:06] <Kris> ok thanks
[07:06] <charles> well, I'm running on the live cd now and did the sudo -s thing
[07:06] <lysis> yes
[07:06] <lysis> the password should be blank, so just press enter.
[07:06] <charles> I'm in root now, but nothing is happening when I type in chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers
[07:06] <intelikey> if it's an executable lysis yes.
[07:07] <lysis> intelikey, so files in linux that are executable don't require other files to run?  ALL of the stuff is in there?  no "dll" files or anything it would maybe reference out of it's own tar.gz folder?
[07:07] <intelikey> charles   in linux  no error means no error.
[07:07] <charles> okay... I'll restart and see if it worked.
[07:07] <lysis> you should be A OK :)
[07:07] <mrkoje> break in service?
[07:07] <intelikey> charles  ls -l the file to make sure
[07:08] <lysis> it'll probably last for several hours.
[07:08] <lysis> maybe even days. (mrkoje)
[07:08] <ReNt-2-OwN> if i go under System > Administration and try to run anything it says "Failed to run 'thing i tryed to run' as root: Child terminated with 1 status" and now some things work and others just give me the busy cursor for a minute and not start at all
[07:08] <intelikey> might save a reboot or two
[07:08] <charles> okay... you'll have to interpret this for me (sorry... noob) it says -r--r-----
[07:08] <Madpilot> ReNt-2-OwN: have you read the RootSudo wiki page?
[07:08] <XchimaeraX> that is right charles
[07:09] <mrkoje> lysis, they say there just restarting the machines....
[07:09] <mrkoje> lysis, we shall see
[07:09] <pashaw> Kris,  too easy  :P   enable the sharing in the remote app      then use the windows VNCviewer  type in the ip address of the ubuntu box  and connect
[07:09] <lysis> mrkoje, i still suggest we prepare with enough food and water just in case.
[07:10] <mrkoje> lysis,  I don't know what I'll do with out my irc....
[07:10] <ReNt-2-OwN> madpilot: i know i must put sudo in front of a command to run it as admin but im not using the terminal, only the GUI
[07:10] <intelikey> ReNt-2-OwN you didn't set your root fs /  to mount  'nosuid' did you ?    and are we talking gnome or what desktop ?
[07:10] <Kris> windows VNC viewer?
[07:10] <lysis> mrkoje, thank god i use two servers at once. ;)
[07:10] <ReNt-2-OwN> intelikey: im not sure, how do i find out?
[07:10] <pashaw> Kris, you said you downloaded a VNC app right?
[07:10] <intelikey> ReNt-2-OwN cat /etc/fstab
[07:10] <Kris> yes
[07:10] <mrkoje> lysis,  what other good servers are out there?
[07:10] <Madpilot> ReNt-2-OwN: when the GUI stuff asks for a pw, they're using sudo too - use your own user pw
[07:10] <Kris> are they all compatable then?
[07:10] <mrkoje> lysis,  I find this is the best tech server....
[07:10] <ReNt-2-OwN> madpilot: it doesnt ask for a password
[07:11] <pashaw> Kris, yes
[07:11] <lysis> mrkoje, i also chat with friends on 2600.  they're quite helpful with general linux questions that i'd rather not bother you with.   ubuntu on freenode is the BEST for ubuntu though. :)
[07:11] <mrkoje> lysis,  Ive been on 2600 but its always dead....
[07:11] <Madpilot> ReNt-2-OwN: try starting Synaptic - System - Admin - Synaptic - it should ask for a pw, and you'll use your regular user pw
[07:12] <mrkoje> lysis,  well it is when I'm on anyway
[07:12] <Kris> hmmmm
[07:12] <pashaw> Kris, ??
[07:12] <Kris> it says please wait, initial screen loading
[07:12] <lysis> mrkoje, i'm in ohio, so luckily my state has the second most popular channel. :)
[07:12] <lysis> it's usually dead until late late like now.
[07:12] <lysis> now there's 3 of us chatting out of the 30 in the room. *laughs*
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> !plf
[07:12] <ubotu> plf is probably the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf, or for i386 users only
[07:12] <mrkoje> lysis,  Last time I was on 2600 I didn't even see a texas channel
[07:13] <ReNt-2-OwN> madpilot: Synaptic Package Manager?
[07:13] <Madpilot> ReNt-2-OwN: that's the one
[07:13] <pashaw> Kris,   did you make sure "ASK you for CONFIRMATION"  is not checked on the ubuntu box
[07:13] <ReNt-2-OwN> intelikey: i ran that command, what should i look for?
[09:25] (ejofee/#ubuntu) why can't i find azureus in any repo?!
[09:25] (anacaona/#ubuntu) ejofee: been asking myself the same question...
[09:25] (M_Cheevy/#ubuntu) project23: plus I began to realise how much hal, udev, and pmount have to do with the automount system.. add kde3.5 to the mix after kunbuntu and it gets really scootched up
[09:26] <M_Cheevy> awstott: could be any number of things... have you tried reconfiguring your xserver?
[09:26] <awstott> I havn't changed any settings or anything
[09:27] <awstott> everything is all default
[09:27] <awstott> this box runs fine on hoary, and sarge
[09:27] <ejofee> anacaona: let's insist... maybe somebody knows the answer :)
[09:27] <awstott> but as soon as i put breezy on it locks up
[09:27] <M_Cheevy> awstott: I'd kill the gdm processes... kill X with the old alt+ctrl+bksp and then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and see if that works better
[09:28] <M_Cheevy> awstott: wait a sec.. you put this on top of sarge??
[09:28] <anacaona> ejofee: i installed it from reps once, but i've since changed my sources.list so many times...
[09:28] <awstott> no
[09:28] <awstott> I wiped sarge off
[09:28] <ejofee> anacaona: i know it used to be on a repo, but it has been removed
[09:28] <M_Cheevy> anacaona: never delete from your sources unless you have to.. always comment it out.. that way you can find it again
[09:29] <M_Cheevy> awstott: phew!
[09:29] <SweetestSavage> Can someone please answer this question: How do I do this.. checking build system type... configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one <--- ??
[09:29] <awstott> lol
[09:29] <M_Cheevy> awstott:  still I'd kill the gdm stuff for the now, smash x on the head with a+c+b and then reconfig xserver
[09:29] <lampshade> hey everyone
[09:30] <M_Cheevy> yo lampshade
[09:30] <mitrovarr> hey everyone, I'm trying to get LIRC running, and I need a little help getting stuff set up
[09:30] <mitrovarr> I can get it running, but I need to feed it a ton of commands before it works.  I'm trying to get it to run on bootup
[09:31] <fit4lfe> does anyone have lundfxp ?
[09:31] <M_Cheevy> mitrovarr: check the readme's.. there should be a config file somewhere
[09:31] <mitrovarr> basically before it works I have to do 'setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none' to kill the serial port, then modprobe lirc_serial and lirc_dev, then run lircd
[09:32] <lampshade> testing my xchat colors
[09:32] <M_Cheevy> mitrovar:  you could create a script along the lines of the /etc/init.d stuff........
[09:32] <anacaona> M_Cheevy: fits of rage, my friend, fits of rage! ;-)
[09:32] <GTroy> anyone have a clue to why x-chat stopped working, but konversations does?
[09:33] <GTroy> I reinstalled but with no better effect
[09:33] <M_Cheevy> anacaona: something along the lines of "Thanks for shining a searchlight on the already glaringly obvious?"
[09:34] <mitrovarr> hmm, there's already a script there
[09:34] <mitrovarr> I guess it doesn't work though
[09:35] <M_Cheevy> mitrovarr: depends, is it in the right runlevel? has it got the commands you need?
[09:35] <M_Cheevy> mitrovarr: before messing with those files directly, why not check the documentation and see if there is a config file you might use to set options?  use synaptic to see where it put what files
[09:36] <mitrovarr> the lirc from synaptic just plain didn't work
[09:36] <mitrovarr> I had to compile from source
[09:36] <anacaona> M_Cheevy: no, not really, just that i get a bit, um, passionate sometimes and instead of listening to that greek choir to my left i get all delete-happy
[09:36] <mitrovarr> getting the modules to come out right was... unpleasant.
[09:36] <M_Cheevy> well then, you should know where the readme is  ;)
[09:37] <M_Cheevy> anacaona:  It'd be too much of a bear to switch to greek characters for the joke I had in  mind ;)
[09:38] <mitrovarr> I think the main problem is that it's supposed to work without shutting off the serial port, but mine won't, so it can't start up automatically
[09:38] <M_Cheevy> and I always thought that it was paris that was burning
[09:40] <anacaona> M_Cheevy: plus, i failed greek in school. miserably
[09:41] <M_Cheevy> anacaona: that it was greek was half the joke.. hardly expected an obscure aristophanies line to register with many
[09:42] <anacaona> ejofee: legend has it that azureus is available on universe
[09:42] <anacaona> ejofee: tried packages.ubuntu.com?
[09:42] <M_Cheevy> okay, maybe time to shift keister....
[09:42] <Morg> Why is it that audio doesn't usually work when there is more than one program trying to play sound?
[09:43] <Morg> And why might videos and flash not play audio after I've used another application that plays audio?
[09:43] <anacaona> howto multiple sounds at once : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101125
[09:43] <Morg> Err, videos and flash in Firefox
[09:43] <anacaona> Morg - that might help ya
[09:44] <awstott> well I didn't break anything :)
[09:44] <awstott> we shall see if it freezes up again
[09:44] <awstott> hehe
[09:45] <linlin> hi im looking for info to get a soundblaster pro 5.1 live gold edition sound card working any way possible.
[09:45] <ELpH95o> I've actually started liking linux thanks to ubuntu and gentoo
[09:47] <intelikey> ELpH95o i'm not sure how gentoo helped that.....
[09:47] <awstott> gentoo scared me when I first booted it up
[09:48] <awstott> havn't touched it since
[09:48] <intelikey> well actually i'm not sure how ub helped that either...
[09:48] <ejofee> anacaona: could you please send me the etc/apt entry for packages.ubuntu.com?
[09:48] <ejofee> anacaona: (although i am pretty much sure i have everything -- i collected all sources from source-o-matic
[09:48] <ejofee> )
[09:49] <ELpH95o> i usually compile my own stuff
[09:49] <ejofee> anacaona: the legend is false, anyway.
[09:49] <ELpH95o> that's the part of linux that's fun
[09:49] <ejofee> anacaona: it used to be true, indeed.
[09:49] <mitrovarr> when stuff actually compiles :-p
[09:50] <anacaona> packages.ubuntu.com just lets you search the official repos
[09:50] <anacaona> and i just tried it, no azureus
[09:50] <awstott> I wanna get mythtv goin on my box....
[09:50] <awstott> having a helluva time tho
[09:51] <intelikey> hmmm i'm wondering what is having to time out in kde ....  it is really problematic with / = nosuid
[09:53] <ELpH95o> i'm from bsd land
[09:53] <intelikey> well it finally timed out and everything is working ok,  but i wish it would have given an error message.
[09:53] <ELpH95o> mite, :i feel quite comfy in linux although im new to it
[09:54] <ejofee> ELpH95o: which bsd?
[09:54] <intelikey> yeah bsd land knows about  / nosuid   and  / nodev   :)
[09:56] <robotgeek> hi, my wireless card is able to associate with a network. however, it's not able to get an ip from the router. any ideas? (i'm on dapper)
[09:56] <project23> try it without any security first (no wep). It might be bad wep keys
[09:56] <QQ_ghost> has anyone set up a LAM using ubuntu?
[09:57] <tiglionabbit> http://pastebin.com/474743   What is this file?  My computer locked up while I was editing a file in vim, and it created this file named after myfile.23.greg
[09:57] <intelikey> lol  most  people that use it have.
[09:57] <proubu> can i get some help please? im trying to install vmware on breezy and i have problems with the linux headers, it says  kernel headers (version 2.6.12-10) does not match your running
[09:57] <proubu> kernel (version 2.6.10-5-386) so i did sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` but i got this Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386
[09:57] <funkyHat> QQ_ghost, Local Area Motorbike?
[09:58] <funkyHat> ;)
[09:58] <QQ_ghost> funkyHat: lol... LA was right, M=Multicomputer
[09:58] <SweetestSavage> How do I open directories with a space in the name? IE, "Name With A Space" in the terminal?
[09:58] <funkyHat> SweetestSavage, escape the space with a \ before it
[09:58] <mitrovarr> hit tab to let it complete it for you?
[09:59] <funkyHat> i.e. file\ name
[09:59] <niffe> how do i see if i have "pcmcia" service stared at system boot?
[09:59] <intelikey> escape the space  this\ is\ how
[09:59] <intelikey> or quote  "this is how"
[10:00] <funkyHat> niffe, try /etc/init.d/pcmcia status
[10:00] <cbx33> what package do i download to get the kernel source for ubunutu
[10:01] <niffe> funkyHat: hmm, it says ok. But still there is no power on light, on my wlan card
[10:01] <ejofee> if i use packages from "dapper, the drake", will that break my "breezy, the badger"?
[10:02] <proubu> please, i need help with that :P
[10:02] <fit4lfe> !chroot
[10:02] <ubotu> hmm... chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[10:02] <funkyHat> ejofee, if you add dapper's repositories to your breezy install, you are likely to break your system
[10:02] <ejofee> proubu: with what?
[10:02] <intelikey> hmmm says sound server failed  cpu overload aborting   but it's still got something timming out...
[10:03] <proubu> ejofee, im trying to install vmware in breezy, i just read wiki but i got a problem...
[10:03] <ejofee> funkyHat: what if i install only un-essential packages (on which (almost) no other packages depend)
[10:03] <proubu> ejofee, it says  kernel headers (version 2.6.12-10) does not match your running
[10:03] <proubu> proubu kernel (version 2.6.10-5-386)
[10:03] <FlannelKing> anyone had any luck setting up apache/svn with the apache web data being updated from a subversion repo?
[10:04] <funkyHat> ejofee, if you download a package from dapper's repositories and install it using dpkg, you are very unlikely to break your system, but you may find the package does not work
[10:04] <ejofee> proubu: install a matching one!
[10:04] <proubu> ejofee,  so i did sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` but i got this Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386
[10:04] <ejofee> proubu: you'll surely find it in apt-get
[10:04] <proubu> ejofee, nope =(
[10:04] <ELpH95o> what is the addy to dapper's repositories
[10:04] <henk> join #colinux
[10:04] <henk> sorry
[10:04] <ejofee> proubu: find it manually, maybe there's some difference
[10:04] <ELpH95o> vmware..m..u got vmware?
[10:05] <ejofee> proubu: compare uname -r to whatever you see in, say, synaptic
[10:05] <proubu> ejofee, yeah i did that too but it's not in synaptic either :S
[10:06] <ejofee> maybe you forgot to update the kernel?
[10:06] <proubu> ejofee, well i dont know how to do that
[10:06] <intelikey> hehhe  /usr/bin/kdeinit --suicide  <-- what is this arg all about ?
[10:07] <ejofee> proubu: do you use synaptic?
[10:07] <proubu> ejofee, yeah
[10:07] <niffe> ok, so i have that error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6025
[10:07] <ejofee> proubu: do you have the updates added to the sources repo list
[10:07] <ejofee> proubu: ?
[10:08] <aeon17x> I'm trying to compile something, but it gives me this error - "configure: error: *** Cannot compile without zlib.
[10:08] <aeon17x> "
[10:08] <Chousuke> install zlibg1-dev or something
[10:08] <ejofee> funkyHat: are you implying i shouldn't do it with apt-get, but only with dpkg?
[10:08] <proubu> ejofee, u mean /etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:08] <funkyHat> ejofee, yes
[10:09] <ejofee> proubu: yes, that's it's name
[10:09] <ejofee> proubu: (as a file)
[10:09] <funkyHat> ejofee, and if dependencies becomes a pain, I'd take that as a sign you shouldn't be doing that just yet ;)
[10:09] <ejofee> proubu: add everything you find in ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:10] <ejofee> funkyHat: i should i avoid doing that with apt-get? how does it complicate things?
[10:10] <aeon17x> Now it complains about libpng.... so that's what the dev packages are for. Cool.
[10:11] <proubu> ejofee, nice! so can i add the version of linux-headers that i need and then use apt-get?
[10:11] <funkyHat> ejofee, you seem to know what you're talking about, so you're probably safe enough using apt-get to do what you want, just be careful you don't go upgrading core libs or anything
[10:11] <intelikey> niffe interesting.  yet another thing i can use to say "that's why i don't like sudo"
[10:12] <zven> How to play different tracks of VCD using totem?
[10:12] <ejofee> funkyHat: right, i will surely not update core libs. thanks.
[10:12] <intelikey> niffe what are you trying to get working?  wireless card ?
[10:12] <GTroy> anyone had any problems with x-chat?
[10:13] <KiaN> GTroy: what kinf of problem ?
[10:13] <KiaN> kind
[10:13] <ejofee> GTroy: nope... what kind of problems?
[10:13] <GTroy> I can't connect to any server
[10:13] <ejofee> proubu: not really
[10:13] <ejofee> proubu: first just add the sources from the link i gave you
[10:13] <intelikey> bx here
[10:13] <niffe> intelikey: yes
[10:13] <ejofee> proubu: then "sudo apt-get update"
[10:13] <KiaN> i have no problem and i'm been using X-chat on Ubuntu for a while
[10:13] <GTroy> KiaN:hmmm
[10:13] <GTroy> I reinstalled and no fix
[10:14] <ejofee> proubu: then pres "reload" in synaptic, just in case.
[10:14] <Oceanborn> Well.. I have VCD with 3 tracks.. Totem plays only 1st track, but how to play 3rd?
[10:14] <Nei> hello, could someone tell me how to set my vc background colour to white?
[10:15] <proubu> ejofee, ok, done
[10:15] <ardchoille> bbiab
[10:15] <intelikey> niffe lsmod  should tell ya if the cs module is loaded or not and that just about all i know about pcmcia  and as for wireless..... hehhe i don't know if i could get a wire working let alone a wireless.
[10:16] <intelikey> !wifi
[10:16] <ubotu> well, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[10:16] <intelikey> !wireless
[10:16] <ubotu> methinks wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[10:17] <intelikey> if that might help you any niffe ^
[10:17] <niffe> hehe, looking at it :)
[10:17] <GTroy> hello talios
[10:18] <intelikey> nei vc ?  console ?
[10:18] <Nei> intelikey, yes my console
[10:18] <talios> evening
[10:18] <intelikey> you want white !    *shivers*
[10:18] <Nei> I want white.
[10:21] <niffe> sudo echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules  it says permission denied!?
[10:21] <Nei> sudo "..."
[10:21] <Nei> else it's (sudo echo) >>
[10:21] <proubu> ejofee, now i need to re-try what i was doing?
[10:22] <niffe> Nei: what?
[10:23] <ejofee> proubu: yes
[10:23] <Nei> niffe, the command will run as sudo only up to the >>
[10:23] <cbx33> anyone here installed unionfs on ubuntu???
[10:24] <ejofee> proubu: but it's good to see what available updates you are getting and if there's any kernel among them
[10:24] <intelikey> i don't think you will get that to work.  the echo will be root but it is on a term/console that std* is not root so   sudo echo blah > will not have root power
[10:24] <ejofee> cbx33: your quesion sounds rather like a warning!!! :)
[10:24] <niffe> so, what to i have to type to make it work?
[10:25] <proubu> ejofee, well i didnt get the linux-header version that i need to install vmware :S *sigh* i guess i'll need to recompile my kernel
[10:25] <intelikey> sudo -     then the command
[10:25] <ejofee> proubu: why recompile? why don't you just install 2.6.12-10-386?
[10:25] <ejofee> proubu: (i guess yours is 2.6.12-9-386, right?)
[10:26] <proubu> ejofee, well, no... i have right now 2.6.12-10 installed but kernel has 2.6.10-5-386
[10:26] <niffe> btw, what is the default root password?
[10:27] <cbx33> ejofee, not so much of a warning more of a ./......it doesn't work on 5.04
[10:27] <intelikey> !root
[10:27] <intelikey> !+root
[10:27] <ubotu> [root]  disabled in ubuntu,  well that's not true. there is just no password set for the root account by default.  You can run things as root by prepending 'sudo ' to the command.  example; sudo apt-get install build-essential    For more information, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:27] <corresponder> moin
[10:28] <student> Hallo
[10:28] <corresponder> ;-)
[10:28] <ejofee> cbx33: i see... what do you mean by "it doesn't work"?
[10:28] <ejofee> cbx33: won't boot?
[10:29] <dsaa> jsgotangco:> sir do u still have originally pressed ubuntu/kubuntu/edubuntu 5.10 CDs?
[10:29] <jsgotangco> dsaa, there's no kubuntu/edubuntu pressed just uubuntu
[10:29] <cbx33> ejofee, no you can't install it
[10:29] <cbx33> make error
[10:30] <ejofee> cbx33: oh, i see.
[10:30] <cbx33> I'm just doing a dist-pugrade
[10:31] <intelikey> niffe if you wish to set the password for root it is simple to do.  sudo passwd       and when it prompts give your passwd then read what it says.    the official "ubuntu" policy is to not even tell people that.... but i don't use ubuntu.
[10:31] <niffe> ok
[10:31] <niffe> hmm, cant get this linksys wpc54g working :/
[10:31] <ejofee> intelikey: what do you use instead?
[10:32] <ejofee> intelikey: debian?
[10:32] <dsaa> jsgotangco:> ok, do u still have copies of originally pressed ubuntu 5.10 CDs? could u share some to me?
[10:32] <awstott> 5.10? thats hoary right?
[10:32] <intelikey> ejofee mdk
[10:32] <jsgotangco> dsaa, where are you located
[10:32] <pinucset> one think, how can i do that enemy territory runs with sudo always? it seems doesnt work without
[10:33] <ejofee> intelikey: why don't you switch to mdv? :P
[10:33] <dsaa> jsgotangco:> currently im using edubuntu here in our school in tacurong city, sultan kudarat
[10:33] <intelikey> dialup
[10:33] <intelikey> hehhe and why upgrade something that works to something that almost works lol
[10:33] <ejofee> intelikey: then why are you on this channel?
[10:34] <jsgotangco> dsaa, hmmm join us in #ubuntu-ph
[10:34] <proubu> ejofee, well im done for today... couldnt install it =( thanks for ur help
[10:34] <ejofee> proubu: couldn't install what?
[10:34] <intelikey> ejofee is that an invetation for me to leave ?
[10:34] <ejofee> proubu: the new kernel?
[10:34] <ejofee> intelikey: NO!!!
[10:34] <dsaa> jsgotangco:> ok, how?
[10:34] <ejofee> intelikey: not at all
[10:34] <intelikey> well just like trying to help.
[10:34] <jsgotangco> dsaa, type /j ubuntu-ph
[10:34] <jsgotangco> err
[10:35] <jsgotangco> dsaa, type /j #ubuntu-ph
[10:35] <proubu> ejofee, lol no, the vmware...
[10:35] <ejofee> intelikey: i am just curious what you find so interesting about ubuntu that you attend this chan without even using ubuntu
[10:35] <proubu> ejofee, just got this always
[10:35] <proubu> ejofee, The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.12-10) does not match your running
[10:35] <proubu> kernel (version 2.6.10-5-386).  Even if the module were to compile successfully,it would not load into the running kernel.
[10:35] <intelikey> and i have wasted a lot of time with linux so i can answer some questions no matter what the distro.
[10:35] <ejofee> proubu: why don't you install 2.6.12-10-386, as i said earlier?
[10:35] <ejofee> proubu: are you ignoring my suggestions? :P
[10:36] <proubu> ejofee, lol no... i'll try that
[10:36] <intelikey> ejofee this channel.   :)
[10:36] <ejofee> proubu: btw, are you using breezy? (i guess i should have asked you this much earlier)
[10:36] <proubu> ejofee, yep im using breezy
[10:36] <ejofee> proubu: then please reread what i said earlier, i won't say it again :)
[10:36] <intelikey> ejofee that's the only thing i like about ubuntu.   this channel.   lol
[10:37] <proubu> ejofee, about 2.6.12-10-386?
[10:37] <ejofee> proubu: i wonder how come you have installed 2.6.12-5-386 in breezy (?!)...
[10:37] <ejofee> intelikey: well... that's... nice.
[10:37] <ejofee> proubu: what about 2.6.12-10-386?
[10:37] <ejofee> proubu: oh, yes
[10:38] <ejofee> proubu: what i wrote about that (not much).
[10:38] <proubu> ejofee, and i dont know why i have 2.6.12-5-386 in breezy, maybe it's cuz before the upgrade i had that
[10:38] <ejofee> proubu: i think you should see it on the updates list
[10:38] <ejofee> proubu: that may explain things.
[10:39] <intelikey> yep you can have multipel kernels installed
[10:40] <intelikey> and put them all in the /boot/grub/menu.lst  and boot any of them
[10:40] <proubu> ejofee, is there a way to get 2.6.12-10-386 besides apt-get? cuz i just need them installed to install vmware and then i dont need them anymore
[10:41] <agorf> hello. when installing ubuntu, should i mark my / partition as bootable?
[10:41] <intelikey> agorf that's not nessarry
[10:42] <agorf> thx
[10:42] <intelikey> agorf the boot loader will be installed to mbr ?
[10:42] <agorf> yes
[10:42] <intelikey> yeah it wont matter then
[10:43] <agorf> so i only need swap, and a / partition ?
[10:43] <ejofee> proubu: i don't understand the question
[10:43] <intelikey> techenically you only need /
[10:43] <QQ_ghost> is there a way to boot a cd on a system that won't do it through the bios?
[10:43] <xiaogil> what is the equivalent of power point on linux ?
[10:43] <agorf> gr8, thanks :)
[10:43] <aeon17x> xiaogil: OpenOffice.org Impress
[10:44] <ejofee> proubu: what's the problem if you keep it installed?
[10:44] <intelikey> swap is optional, but the installer may cry without it.
[10:44] <xiaogil> aeon17x: is it compatible with power point ?
[10:45] <ejofee> intelikey: any idea why, when booting single user, it asks for a password and won't accept any?
[10:45] <aeon17x> xiaogil: to a certain extent, yes.
[10:45] <ejofee> xiaogil: mostly, yes
[10:45] <proubu> ejofee, well, actually i dont have problems if i keep it installed but i cant download/get 2.6.12-5-386 and i need it to install vmware :S
[10:46] <intelikey> ejofee no.  that should never happen.  booting to single user it should auto login root
[10:46] <QQ_ghost> so OOo impress functions now? holy crap...
[10:46] <ejofee> proubu: as long as you need the right headers... i don't see any other solution (and still keeping your apt-get consistent)
[10:46] <intelikey> to console   tty1  of course
[10:47] <proubu> ejofee, yeah, i guess that too... *sigh*
[10:47] <Madpilot> QQ_ghost: apparently it functions as well as MS PowerPoint, for whatever that's worth... ;)
[10:47] <ejofee> QQ_ghost: had issues with it?
[10:47] <ejofee> proubu: sorry.
[10:47] <ejofee> proubu: it's better to update anyway.
[10:47] <QQ_ghost> Madpilot: yeah, back in like, 1.0 / 1.1
[10:48] <proubu> ejofee, hehe yeah.... well, thanks for ur help man =)
[10:48] <ejofee> QQ_ghost: well, now it's 2.0... things *may* have changed, right? :)
[10:48] <QQ_ghost> Madpilot: sorry comment was for ejofee...
[10:48] <ejofee> proubu: anytime :)
[10:48] <proubu> gnight all
[10:48] <icbu> is azureus packaged as part of synaptic? If so how do I find it please?
[10:48] <ejofee> QQ_ghost: i detected it it had been for me
[10:48] <ejofee> :)
[10:49] <QQ_ghost> ejofee: hope so, everything else is more functional than i need
[10:49] <Madpilot> QQ_ghost: never used Impress, but OOo2 Writer is far nicer than OOo1 to use...
[10:49] <ejofee> QQ_ghost: right :P
[10:50] <intelikey> !azureus
[10:50] <ubotu> I guess azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[10:50] <QQ_ghost> Madpilot: i mostly use spreadsheet stuff, but i have been wanting to put together a presentation...
[10:52] <QQ_ghost> is it possible to boot to cd from grub?
[10:52] <intelikey> yes
[10:52] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: (me?)
[10:53] <Rakshak> Can anyone tell me how to make a custom live CD?
[10:53] <intelikey> yeah but don't ask me to do it for you QQ_ghost i did it one time with lilo but never with grub, but i know it can be done.
[10:53] <kestas> createcustomlivecd.sh ?
[10:53] <Rakshak> does that sh command work, really?
[10:53] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: is there a how-to page?
[10:53] <marcel> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a ppc 7600/200 but the CD wont boot. What gives?
[10:53] <Rakshak> on ubuntu forums?
[10:54] <intelikey> QQ_ghost man gurb
[10:54] <intelikey> it should have the howto boot a cd in there
[10:54] <kestas> marcel, Im pretty sure that's too old
[10:54] <marcel> ok
[10:54] <marcel> :(
[10:54] <niffe> how can i change resolution?
[10:54] <kestas> try g3+
[10:54] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: thanx
[10:54] <ejofee> intelikey: are you sure it can? i thought all bootloaders leave bios that choice
[10:55] <olicat> any ideas on how i can connect to a vpn in ubuntu breezy?
[10:56] <intelikey> being a lilo man myself and having set up lilo to boot a cd, and being in a channel that is owned by grub zealots, if i said lilo could and grub couldn't i'd probably get kicked......
[10:57] <intelikey> ejofee if you are asking have i ever done it,  see above.  the answer is no.
[10:57] <kestas> intelikey, Im no grub zealot but grub can boot a cd
[10:57] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: i like lilo too, but i don't have it installed...
[10:57] <ejofee> intelikey: no, i am not asking you that :)
[10:58] <QQ_ghost> kestas: where can i obtain the info on that?
[10:58] <opossum> hallo@all
[10:58] <intelikey> possum
[10:58] <opossum> im from germany
[10:59] <QQ_ghost> kestas: where can i obtain the info to use grub to boot a cd?
[10:59] <intelikey> opossum
[10:59] <opossum> hi
[11:00] <n37> hi <3'z ;>
[11:00] <opossum> spricht hie jemand deutsch?
[11:00] <cricek> Hmm guys 1 question my /dev/sda links somehow dissapeared from /dev
[11:00] <cricek> how do I get em back ?
[11:00] <n37> any1 knows what distribution i must download of mysql?
[11:00] <kestas> QQ_ghost, hmm I thought it could but I guess I was thinking about grub on a floppy or CD, apparently grub on a HDD can't for some reason
[11:00] <intelikey> no english is all i speek
[11:00] <kestas> QQ_ghost, better go with lilo I guess
[11:01] <n37> mysql distro 4 ubuntu?
[11:01] <n37> any1 knows?
[11:01] <n37> :<
[11:01] <opossum> where do you com from inteli?
[11:01] <QQ_ghost> kestas:  i suppose i could install lilo on ubuntu (OH THE HORROR!) from a slackware disk...
[11:02] <intelikey> cricek use something scsi or usb maybe
[11:02] <QQ_ghost> lol
[11:02] <cricek> intelikey, Hmm
[11:02] <cricek> scsi or usb :))
[11:02] <cricek> ok
[11:02] <intelikey> so udev will call modprobe
[11:02] <cricek> yeah I checked lspci
[11:02] <intelikey> modprobe will make them  and badabing there you go.
[11:03] <n37> any help plz? :S
[11:03] <ejofee> opossum: #ubuntu-de
[11:03] <n37> mysql on ubuntu?
[11:03] <cricek> modprobe ???
[11:03] <n37> !mysql
[11:03] <ubotu> lamp is, like, totally, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:03] <opossum> ejofee hi
[11:03] <cricek> but modprobe ...only loads modules for kernel
[11:03] <intelikey> !mysql
[11:03] <cricek> intelikey,
[11:03] <n37> :>
[11:04] <intelikey> cricek heh
[11:04] <cricek> where do you have modules here
[11:04] <n37> !lampdownload
[11:04] <ubotu> n37: Not a clue
[11:04] <n37> :/
[11:04] <n37> !lamp
[11:04] <ubotu> lamp is, like, totally, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:04] <n37> rofl
[11:04] <niffe> How can i change resolution from a command line?
[11:04] <cricek> !usb
[11:04] <ubotu> cricek: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:04] <n37> lmao!
[11:04] <intelikey> cricek you haven't been using linux long have you ?
[11:04] <QQ_ghost> lol
[11:05] <n37> !rofl
[11:05] <ubotu> n37: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:05] <n37> !yay
[11:05] <ubotu> n37: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:05] <n37> !sure
[11:05] <ubotu> n37: What?
[11:05] <n37> !dunno
[11:05] <ubotu> n37: Are you on ritalin?
[11:05] <Madpilot> !msg the bot
[11:05] <cricek> Hmm intelikey ....evry day ...but suse not ubuntu
[11:05] <n37> !ritalinsux
[11:05] <ubotu> n37: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:05] <Madpilot> !tell n37 about msg the bot
[11:05] <n37> omgthx :>
[11:07] <intelikey> cricek well modprobe not only loads the module into the kernel(portion of mem) but part of the process is also calling MAKEDEV with all the proper major's and minor's  and alias's  so that the module is then usable.
[11:08] <cricek> Hmm ok ...then there is only one question left ...
[11:08] <cricek> where do I get this module to load
[11:08] <icbu> thanks intelikely - installed and working :)
[11:09] <xukun> anybody know a software to emulate cisco routers?
[11:09] <intelikey> like i said access something scsi or maybe a usb stick and udev will (by calling modprobe) make the devices
[11:09] <intelikey> np icbu   welcome
[11:11] <intelikey> cricek if you dislike udev you can always disable it,  although that will require a reboot.   and you may find things that it did that you did like and will want back.
[11:11] <intelikey> udev is the reason the /dev/sd* files are not there....
[11:12] <cricek> intelikey, ok ...
[11:14] <xukun> anybody running user mode linux(uml)?
[11:14] <cricek> tnx intelikey
[11:14] <intelikey> cricek one other thing.  if you check /.dev/  there may be the device you are looking for there.  ubuntu mounted the real /dev on /.dev in 5.04  i don't know if that changed or not.
[11:15] <QQ_ghost> xukun: what's the url for uml?
[11:15] <zosologist> im a linux noob and i d/led ubuntu about 4 days ago, the amd 64 version, and i found out that making flash player amongst other programs work is a bitch so i decided to down grade to the 32 bit one and ive got a few questions
[11:15] <Mabus06> The media keys for my keyboard stopped working when I replaced the batteries, any ideas?
[11:15] <xukun> QQ_ghost, http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/
[11:16] <intelikey> i need to know that i guess.   would someone with a default breezy install do a ls /.dev  and see if the dir exists for me please.
[11:16] <intelikey> ?
[11:16] <cello_rasp> are the universe and multiverse repositories available on downloadable images in any form?
[11:16] <Mabus06> intelikey, no directory for that here
[11:16] <Lukian> intelikey: that returns nothing here
[11:16] <trevorv> whats the name of the package that contains tools like "make"? i dont seem to have it installed.
[11:16] <foxer> fgf
[11:16] <zosologist> nope
[11:16] <foxer> dfd
[11:16] <foxer> f
[11:16] <foxer> ff
[11:16] <intelikey> ok they did drop it then.
[11:17] <intelikey> thanks guys.
[11:17] <bluefrog-10> trevorv, build-essential
[11:17] <niffe> who wants to fix my wlan connection with vnc? :)
[11:17] <trevorv> bluefrog-10, thankyou :)
[11:17] <zosologist> im a linux noob and i was wondering if theres any difference in the console commands between kde and gnome?
[11:17] <Madpilot> zosologist: at the console level, no
[11:17] <intelikey> !b-e
[11:17] <ubotu> If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential.
[11:17] <bimberi> zosologist: none
[11:17] <Lukian> zosologist: you certainly are :D
[11:17] <Mabus06> The media keys for my keyboard stopped working when I replaced the batteries, any ideas?
[11:18] <Madpilot> need sleep - later, all
[11:19] <zosologist> so kubuntu and ubuntu are vertually identical? minus the user interface of course
[11:19] <Pupeno> Is Linux on Dapper compiled for real-time scheduling ?
[11:19] <Mabus06> Can anyone help me with my keyboard issue? I tried resetting the keyboard shortcuts but no luck.
[11:19] <Pupeno> zosologist: yes.
[11:19] <intelikey> zosologist yep
[11:19] <FlannelKing> zosologist, and with the different interfaces comes a few different programs, but yeah, basically.
[11:20] <niffe> allways "no scan results" cant get this thing working!
[11:20] <Madpilot> zosologist: Ubuntu uses Gnome for the desktop; Kubuntu uses KDE
[11:20] <xiaogil> how to install ubuntu on a laptop on which the cd drive doesn't work anymore ?
[11:20] <Madpilot> zosologist: and you can use programs from one on the other easily
[11:20] <zosologist> lol how do i wisper, its been so long since irc
[11:20] <Mabus06> zosologist, /msg user message
[11:20] <jsz_> Lukian, do you go on austnet?
[11:21] <Pupeno> is there a more proper channel to ask question regardig Dapper's Linux ?
[11:22] <deFrysk> Pupeno, perhaps ubuntu-motu if you canoot get an answer here
[11:22] <Pupeno> deFrysk: maybe, but it'll be off-topic there.
[11:22] <zosologist> does kubunu use synaptic?
[11:23] <deFrysk> zosologist, not by default
[11:23] <intelikey> yes
[11:23] <Pupeno> zosologist: it doesn't install it by default.
[11:23] <Mabus06> wow, people like answering zosologist...
[11:23] <Pupeno> apt-get install synaptic and voila!
[11:23] <deFrysk> zosologist, I think its wise to install it tho
[11:23] <intelikey> Mabus06 he asks the easy ones "_
[11:24] <deFrysk> Pupeno, perhaps try here ?
[11:24] <zosologist> thats cause im awesome mabus06
[11:24] <Mabus06> no ideas about my keyboard problem, intelikey? I reset the keyboard shortcuts but previous and next track buttons stlil don't work anymore
[11:24] <Mabus06> pssst, zosologist, ask my question for me? ;)
[11:24] <Pupeno> deFrysk: I already did.
[11:24] <zosologist> ahhh lol those red things arent msg lol
[11:24] <zosologist> lol whats that mabus06
[11:25] <deFrysk> Pupeno, perhaps try asking again ?
[11:25] <Pupeno> Mabus06: maybe if you tell us what do you mean by reseting...
[11:25] <Pupeno> Is Linux on Dapper compiled for real-time scheduling ?
[11:25] <albinoloverats> anyone think they might be able to help with an fstab problem?
[11:25] <QQ_ghost> xukun: wonder if you can use uml for lfs
[11:25] <intelikey> Mabus06 no sorry.