[12:12] <mihi_ignosce> dauoalagio2, are you using edgy or dapper?
[12:12] <dauoalagio2> edgy
[12:12] <mihi_ignosce> dauoalagio2, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[12:13] <dauoalagio2> thank you mihi_ignosce
[12:13] <mihi_ignosce> dauoalagio2, np
[12:13] <BluesKaj> dauoalagio2,   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:13] <mihi_ignosce> KDE 3.5.6 is not in the normal edgy repos
[12:13] <junocdx> Can you use dual monitors in Kubuntu with an ATI card?
[12:14] <Photon> i need help in Kdevelop, i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13943/
[12:14] <BluesKaj> well , i assume ppl have added repos to the basic sources list , just thru usage
[12:15] <Photon> now what should i do?
[12:15] <mihi_ignosce> junocdx, yes. How? I don't know. I've seen it done though.
[12:15] <pollyo> Are the packages adept installs in deb format?
[12:17] <mihi_ignosce> pollyo, yes
[12:17] <Photon> i need help in Kdevelop, i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13943/
[12:18] <Photon> k solved the problem
[12:19] <Photon> :)
[12:19] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: I don't know how I missed your response to me earlier, but you said "you need to have a samba user to authenticate" ...can you elaborate?
[12:19] <danny500> I need help getting access to my Windows XP drive from my linux drive, any suggestions?
[12:19] <Laconic> !ntfs-3g > danny500
[12:19] <BluesKaj> danny500 , install ntfs-3g
[12:19] <Laconic> !mount > danny500
[12:20] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: you need to have a unix account and then create a samba user for that account and then use that username from windows
[12:20] <cpk1> sudo smbpasswd -L -a aaroncampbell and sudo smbpasswd -L -e aaroncampbell if you were doing yourself
[12:20] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: I want ANY windows computer connected to the network to be able to access it
[12:21] <LiveCD_ian> Does anybody know of any reasons why lspci only finds 1 of 2 vga adapters ?
[12:23] <Laconic> LiveCD_ian, are you using the LiveCD or an installed version of Kubuntu?
[12:24] <LiveCD_ian> Laconic: I am using the LiveCD at the moment, but i had a full install earlier and  it was the same.
[12:25] <LiveCD_ian> Laconic: Would it normally make a difference ?
[12:26] <Laconic> LiveCD_ian, the LiveCD does not have nvidia-glx support so the question, in the context of using a LiveCD is moot as you can't use both cards. That being said, there may be a different identifier for the 2nd GPU in lspci
[12:27] <jager> who can help me get sound out of flash?
[12:27] <jager> i get video no problem but i've never had sound on this machine
[12:28] <jager> any information you need to help diagnose just ask, i'll provide it
[12:28] <klam> need these gone    2 dell xps m1710 350 for one 500 for 2, 1 apple macbook black for 600 MSN<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or aim: solutions1981
[12:28] <h0ax> is there a command like apt-get command for beryl ?
[12:28] <jager> this is kubuntu edgy btw
[12:28] <Laconic> !flash | jager
[12:28] <ubotu> jager: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:28] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[12:28] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: ok, but you still need to authenticate yourself, any user WILL be able to access it still
[12:28] <LiveCD_ian> Laconic: I see, so it might not state that its VGA in lspci ?
[12:28] <jager> flash 9 is installed and seems to work very well
[12:29] <jager> from adobe.com's tarball
[12:29] <Laconic> LiveCD_ian, that's possible. I'd have to try it on my SLI machine before I could answer definitively
[12:29] <jager> only it has no sound, it never has sound on this machine
[12:29] <h0ax> cpk1:  is there a command like apt-get command for beryl ?
[12:29] <jager> doing the exact same thing on *other* machines and i get sound a video
[12:29] <Laconic> h0ax, edgy or feisty?
[12:29] <jager> something about this one makes sound fail
[12:30] <h0ax> i dunno :S
[12:30] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: I need to specify a password for this?
[12:30] <Laconic> jager, no sound at all? from anything?
[12:30] <aaroncampbell> or should it be left blank to allow anyone
[12:30] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: use the unix password
[12:30] <jager> i get no sound from flash videos in firefox or konqueror
[12:30] <h0ax> Laconic:  i dunno which it is
[12:30] <jager> all other sound seems to work as expected
[12:31] <Laconic> h0ax, what does uname -r give you?
[12:31] <h0ax> 2.6.15
[12:31] <h0ax> -28-286
[12:32] <deian> hi ppl, who's on feisty??
[12:32] <klam> need these gone    2 dell xps m1710 350 for one 500 for 2, 1 apple macbook black for 600 MSN<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or aim: solutions1981
[12:32] <nixternal> deian: I am
[12:32] <jager> Shockwave Flash 9.0 r31 is listed in about:plugins in konqueror
[12:32] <Laconic> h0ax, you have egdy, in which case the answer is yes with reservations. See the wiki on beryl-project.org
[12:32] <deian> can we have a quick chat
[12:32] <h0ax> do you know the command Laconic ?
[12:32] <nixternal> deian: sure
[12:32] <deian> wanna pick ur brains
[12:32] <nixternal> there isn't much there, I have been studying for my Philosophy and Logic class tonight
[12:32] <jager> you have to modify your sources.list h0ax, go read the wiki he pointed you to
[12:33] <Laconic> h0ax, ... you may have dapper with that kernel, not edgy
[12:33] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: Ok, I did that, and I was prompted for the root password, and then a SMB password (twice).  I used my login password for the smb password.  Then I restarted samba, but I still get the same error from the windows box.
[12:33] <Laconic> h0ax, either way, you should look at the wiki on beryl-project.org
[12:33] <Ace2016> hi all
[12:34] <Ace2016> does the kubuntu live cd installer have shred on it?
[12:34] <deian> when the kubuntu boots, how do i get it in verbose mode? like in suse u press 'esc'
[12:34] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: specifying the correct username from windows?
[12:34] <nixternal> Laconic: that is a Dapper kernel, UNLESS...he did a dist-upgrade to Edgy, the kernel may not have followed
[12:34] <LiveCD_ian> Laconic: Thanks for your time. I really hope i can get this to work, i spent 2000 pounds on this project
[12:34] <arafat> deian: CTRL+ALT+F1
[12:34] <deian> ohhh
[12:34] <Ace2016> i really don't want to have to burn DBAN a 2mb iso to a dvd!!! so i can just wipe my harddisks
[12:34] <cpk1> h0ax: do 'lsb_release -a' to find out what version of ubuntu you have
[12:34] <nixternal> deian: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the quiet
[12:34] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: That's the thing...I don't want anyone to need to specify a username/pass
[12:34] <Ace2016> what did you spend 2000 on?
[12:35] <deian> excellent
[12:35] <jager> all sound fixes i see seem to be for flash 7
[12:35] <deian> something else too...
[12:35] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: and besides...I'm never given the chance to enter one
[12:35] <jager> not 9
[12:35] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: try specifying just a username with a blank password
[12:35] <nixternal> deian: kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.20-13-generic root=UUID=0a6e4957-5b03-46f1-885c-1c3623f684a3 ro
[12:35] <h0ax> cpk1: dapper
[12:35] <nixternal> that is how my boot looks in the kernel, I removed the splash and the quiet so I can see everything it is doing
[12:35] <deian> i assume since i installed beta, and got all the daily updates, i've got the final version by now?
[12:35] <nixternal> deian: yes
[12:35] <nixternal> not the final version, but the latest
[12:35] <deian> nixternal: yes it's nice to see what is happenin
[12:36] <Ace2016> jager: flash 9's sould has worked fine for me, maybe there are only tips for flash 7 since there were lots of problems with it, i had to use artsdsp to get it to work ok
[12:36] <nixternal> there are still a few more weeks of fixing and tweaking to do with Feisty
[12:36] <deian> it will eventually lead to the final version right?
[12:36] <nixternal> yup
[12:36] <nixternal> I have been dist-upgrading since breezy
[12:36] <deian> it still satisfies more than suse for me
[12:36] <jager> i remember using that tip in firefoxrc with 7, and it did work, but with 9 nothing has helpe
[12:36] <jager> d
[12:36] <nixternal> I usually dist-upgrade 2 to 3 weeks after the development repos open
[12:36] <alphi_> anyone know how i can get the 'mkinitrd' command ?
[12:36] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: I'm never offered the chance
[12:37] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: are you using wins?
[12:37] <h0ax> Night all .
[12:37] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: ?
[12:37] <nixternal> alphi_: initrd-tools
[12:37] <deian> where can i get a list of the 'other' repositories?
[12:37] <alphi_> awesome, thanks
[12:37] <nixternal> !sources
[12:37] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:38] <deian> does it have libdvdcss2?
[12:38] <deian> and flash for firefox?
[12:38] <nixternal> one of the devs has a super list that shows all of them as well
[12:38] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: have you mapped the network drive for the samba share from windows yet?
[12:38] <nixternal> deian: if you are using feisty, then universe and multiverse are already enabled
[12:38] <deian> they are in there?
[12:38] <nixternal> flash for firefox =>   flashplugin_nonfree
[12:39] <deian> i'll go see now
[12:39] <nixternal> flash for firefox =>   flashplugin-nonfree
[12:39] <nixternal> I typo'd that
[12:39] <nixternal> libdvdcss2 is located somewhere, can't remember though
[12:39] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: not sure what that means.  I can see the computer in the workgroup, but I click on it, I get that error...same if I hit start->run-> "\\aaron-linux"
[12:39] <nixternal> !libdvdcss2
[12:39] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:39] <nixternal> deian: ^^
[12:40] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: go to start > right click my computer > then map network drive
[12:41] <Ace2016> hi all
[12:41] <Ace2016> anyone know how to get shred to delete files as well as go into the dirs?
[12:41] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: if you are using wins with samba then you can specify it by name otherwise use the ip
[12:41] <deian> can't find the flash plugin ppl?
[12:42] <nixternal> flashplugin-nonfree is the name of it
[12:42] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: how can I set up wins?
[12:42] <deian> closest thing i see is libflash-mozplugin
[12:43] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: is it just another package?  Or more configuration?  both?
[12:43] <RaNDyMyZe> deian: enable multiverse
[12:43] <deian> let me go investigate the list then
[12:44] <RaNDyMyZe> deian: what version of kubuntu are you running?  this is for feisty
[12:44] <nixternal> RaNDyMyZe: fesity
[12:44] <nixternal> RaNDyMyZe: also edgy has it as well
[12:44] <nixternal> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[12:44] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: its a line in smb.conf... you probably need to spend more time making sure you have correctly configured samba first...
[12:44] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[12:44] <nixternal> hrmm, I thought they had v9 in edgy, guess I was wrong
[12:45] <nixternal> !info flashplugin-nonfree feisty
[12:45] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)
[12:45] <nixternal> man that bot is slow
[12:46] <nixternal> it is definitely there
[12:46] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: I still get the same error when connecting...and this way allowed me to specify the correct username/pass, but it made no difference
[12:48] <deian> ok next question is...
[12:48] <aaroncampbell> I thought maybe there was a firewall or something, but iptables -L shows 3 chains, all set to ACCEPT with no exceptions
[12:48] <deian> where is my windows partition?
[12:49] <deian> don't seem to be mounted by default
[12:50] <nixternal> deian: hopefully it got wiped out, but if it didn't :) you need to check
[12:50] <junocdx> where is xorg.conf?
[12:50] <junocdx> i forgot the directory
[12:50] <nixternal> fdisk
[12:50] <nixternal> heh, forgot to add that
[12:51] <deian> it's still on the harddrive, i just want to access my itunes music (non drm ones of course)
[12:52] <nixternal> deian: pata or sata hard drive?
[12:52] <nixternal> actually, I dunno how to mount a winblows drive, maybe someone else does though :)
[12:52] <RaNDyMyZe> junocdx: xorg.conf is in /etc/X11/
[12:53] <jager> hey i got it!
[12:53] <RaNDyMyZe> junocdx: make sure you back it up before changing it
[12:53] <calamari> hi
[12:53] <jager> there is a recent post on the forums describing exactly my problem with flash sound and how to fix it
[12:53] <jager> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2392024
[12:53] <calamari> is there a way to make the desktop icons smaller?
[12:53] <jager> in case any other have similar problems
[12:53] <deian> saya
[12:53] <deian> sata even
[12:53] <deian> i don't know either, linux is still a but mysterious to me
[12:54] <jager> i'm very pleased, this has been nagging me since flash9 was release, months ago
[12:54] <junocdx> anyone have any experiance with aticonfig?
[12:55] <yurimxpxman> is there any way to convert a wav/flac to WMA in linux?
[12:55] <chijin> yurimxpxman: there are better formats than wma :-)
[12:56] <cpk1> yurimxpxman: ffmpeg should
[12:56] <yurimxpxman> cpk1: how would I use ffmpeg to do it?
[12:56] <yurimxpxman> chijin: I know that. I'm just trying to compare the different codecs
[12:56] <cpk1> something like ffmpeg -i nameof.flac newfile.wma
[12:57] <cpk1> that should work yurimxpxman
[12:57] <Sanne> calamari: system settings/appearance/icons/advanced (that's where it is in Dapper)
[12:58] <deian> so anyone here clued up on mounting windows partition
[12:58] <jager> how many of you guys use konqueror for your primary browser?
[12:58] <cpk1> deian: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/partition /media/somefolder
[12:58] <cpk1> i do jager
[12:59] <deian> ohhh
[12:59] <deian> that simple
[12:59] <deian> ?
[12:59] <cpk1> deian: you need to know the dev point
[12:59] <jager> anything it consistantly can't do cpk1?
[12:59] <junocdx> cpk1: is there safe, effective ntfs support that allows you to read and write?
[12:59] <deian> sda/??? ?
[12:59] <jager> junocdx: look into ntfs-3g
[01:00] <VSpike> !ntfs-3g | junocdx
[01:00] <ubotu> junocdx: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:00] <cpk1> you can read safely no matter what, I dont think you can ever say that writing is "safe"
[01:00] <cpk1> deian: it can be on sda, but you still need a number so it would be /dev/sda1 or somesuch
[01:00] <jager> why not cpk1?  is ntfs-3g still not ready for prime time?
[01:01] <junocdx> anyone have any experiance with aticonfig?
[01:01] <zerothis> is it possible to run OSX (darwin) apps in Ubuntu?
[01:01] <junocdx> or can tell me how to run different resolutions on my dual monitors?
[01:01] <cpk1> there still is a chance it can lose data jager so technically you can never be 100% sure with it
[01:01] <zerothis> jager: i've run ntfs-3g on 2 different computer without problems
[01:01] <jager> i've not had any problems either
[01:02] <tux> hi guys
[01:02] <jager> well whatever then, ymmv i guess but it has worked for me
[01:02] <jager> hi tux
[01:03] <tux> how can i find out my wireless lan macadress
[01:03] <alphi_> is there any way to RTAI patch a kernel without re-installing it ?
[01:03] <zerothis> ntfs-3g hasn't lost any of my data yet. however, windows has lost my data many times
[01:03] <jager> ifconfig -a?
[01:04] <deian> how do i know where windows is mounted?
[01:04] <Daboone72> Looks like I'm going to be a kubuntu convert. Good job on the installer am well impressed.
[01:04] <deian> cos in feisty they are remaned hda to sda right?
[01:05] <zerothis> deian: winecfg
[01:06] <deian> enlighten me?
[01:06] <Sanne> deian: hda, hdb... are ide or pata devices, sd a sata devices
[01:06] <zerothis> sda is a serial ata hd i think. hda would be old ata
[01:06] <deian> i have sata
[01:06] <tux> found it, thank you jager
[01:06] <deian> so windows would be on sda3 (for instance?)
[01:06] <Daboone72> Well zip drives flash drives are sdb1 scsi don't know what sata is
[01:06] <tux> HwAddr from ifconfig
[01:06] <VSpike> deian is right I think.  In feisty, pata devices become sdx too
[01:07] <Sanne> deian: you can list your partitions with: sudo fdisk -l
[01:07] <deian> oh excellent
[01:07] <deian> ok
[01:07] <Sanne> deian: you can see what's mounted currently with: mount
[01:08] <zerothis> deian: use the command "winecfg" and look at the Drives tab. it will show where all the windows drives are mounted
[01:08] <deian> i don't have wine installe
[01:08] <zerothis> deian, oh
[01:08] <deian> fdisk -l shows windows is on /dev/sda1
[01:09] <zerothis> afk
[01:09] <deian> wine is something i will move onto real soon!!
[01:09] <Sanne> deian: and is /dev/sda1 mounted anywhere? Type: mount
[01:10] <deian> please
[01:10] <Daboone72> Yes all ata devices appear as SCSI because were using libata http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=541094
[01:11] <tux> how can i work with WPA keys
[01:11] <mrigns> !wpa
[01:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:12] <Sanne> deian: here's some instructions about mounting windows partitions: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/partitions-booting.html
[01:12] <mrigns> !ntfs-3g
[01:12] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:13] <deian> how do i mount /dev/sda1 then? i tried the command mount -t /dev/sda1 /media/windows
[01:14] <deian> but it says /media/windows does not exist
[01:14] <mrigns> deian: sudo mkdir /media/windows
[01:14] <DaSkreech> is there a way to get my hardware info/
[01:14] <DaSkreech> ?
[01:14] <DaSkreech> Guified?
[01:14] <mrigns> the repeat the mounting
[01:15] <mrigns> yes
[01:15] <DaSkreech> Outside of lshw -html :-P
[01:15] <mrigns> try kicker --> system
[01:15] <mrigns> DaSkreech: kinfocenter -caption "%c" %i %m
[01:16] <mrigns> should work without the parameter though
[01:16] <eilker>  is there a pencil tool for drawing in krita ?
[01:16] <eilker> i cant find it
[01:16] <Sanne> DaSkreech: menu/system/kinfocenter
[01:17] <mrigns> eilker: isnt it the one on the upper left?
[01:17] <deian> ok now i don't have permission to read the mounted windows paritiom
[01:17] <DaSkreech> Sanne: Thanks
[01:17] <deian> grrrrrr
[01:17] <eilker> mrigns: i think yes:) sorry
[01:17] <Sanne> DaSkreech: you're welcome
[01:18] <DaSkreech> It's not very pretty :)
[01:18] <DaSkreech> This would scare most people
[01:18] <mrigns> but it shows all needed stuff
[01:18] <deian> anyone?
[01:19] <DaSkreech> true. but honestly lshw is prettier
[01:19] <DaSkreech> deian: is it NTFS?
[01:19] <deian> yea
[01:19] <deian> is this where the problem is?
[01:19] <Sanne> deian: you might want to read the link I gave you, might get some basics explained ;)
[01:19] <mrigns> !ntfs-3g | deian
[01:19] <ubotu> deian: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:19] <deian> ok thanks
[01:19] <mrigns> deian: now i posted it twice
[01:19] <mrigns> just read it
[01:20] <Sanne> deian: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/partitions-booting.html
[01:20] <deian> sorry, don't know how i missed that first time round
[01:20] <VSpike> deian are you using ntfs-3g or the standard ntfs driver?
[01:21] <deian> no idea
[01:21] <deian> which one is the standard one?
[01:21] <adam__> I'm trying to log into my bank (http://www.capitalone.co.uk/) with konqueror but everytime it loads the page meta-refreshs to http://www.capitalone.co.uk/web/MenuUrl?pageId=1 and then opens this page in kate which isn't helpfull and prevents me actually accessing the site. Is their someway of telling konqueror to open it?
[01:22] <deian> how do i unmount?
[01:22] <HaSH> adam__, try firefox?.
[01:22] <k0> i just installed kubuntu but my sound is really low
[01:23] <k0> deian: umount <device>
[01:23] <adam__> I shouldn't have too, and i hate firefox anyway
[01:23] <k0> any had this problem?
[01:23] <HaSH> adam__, eh konqueror isnt a good browser for th inet. but w/e flaos your boat :-)
[01:23] <k0> my master volume isnt there jus pcm
[01:23] <HaSH> *floats
[01:23] <junocdx> adam__: www.opera.com
[01:24] <adam__> Rubbish KHTML is the best html render, its the only one that passes the acid2 test
[01:25] <orestes> Excuse me: Is this the correct place to ask about KDE translations in Rosetta?
[01:25] <HaSH> orestes, maby try #kde
[01:25] <orestes> ok, thanks
[01:25] <HaSH> np
[01:25] <calamari> Sanne: thanks for your desktop icon help earlier, that's where it is in Edgy too! :)
[01:26] <Sanne> calamari: ah, good to know, glad it helped, thanks for the followup :)
[01:26] <deian> nice one guys i successfully mounted windows
[01:27] <Newbie-None> Hi all
[01:27] <k0> anyone else had problem with low sound with intel sound card
[01:27] <Newbie-None> I have a problem....I cant edir grub/menu.lst
[01:27] <Newbie-None> *edit
[01:28] <calamari> Newbie-None: why not?
[01:28] <Newbie-None> I dont know. I havnt rights probably.
[01:28] <verzonnen> gues because it needs to be done as root?
[01:29] <Sanne> Newbie-None: try: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:30] <Newbie-None> In terminal I connect as root and I wrote > kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst but....
[01:31] <Newbie-None> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[01:31] <Newbie-None> Xlib: No protocol specified
[01:31] <Newbie-None> kate: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[01:31] <Sanne> Newbie-None: no, don't login as root. Type this as a normal user in a konsole window.
[01:31] <mzanfardino>  I'm running Thunderbird <IP_ADDRESS> on Ubuntu Edgy and can not seem to get a link in email to spawn Firefox: it always opens the link in Konquer.  Now, I've already gone to the system configuration and set Firefox as my default browser and it seems to work with other apps.  Am I missing something in Thunderbird? (if this is not the correct channel, please direct me to the correct one)
[01:31] <k0> Newbie-None: use 'nano -w /boot/grub'
[01:33] <Newbie-None> ko > thx Im in....meybe i save it in a few seconds
[01:35] <Newbie-None> yes. Thats right. Thx to all and especially to k0 for "nano" edit
[01:36] <Photon> does anyone kno about allegro lib?
[01:36] <Photon> i want to know how to setup allegro on kdevelop
[01:48] <dwidmann> boo!
[01:49] <Newbie-None> How can I import Icq list in Kopete?
[01:55] <mrigns> icq saves its list on its server
[01:55] <mrigns> not locally
[01:56] <dwidmann> mrigns: I think newbie-none left already
[01:56] <mrigns> oh
[01:56] <jason_> oh
[01:56] <mrigns> turne the leaves/joins out :d
[01:56] <jason_> whi us this
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> jason_: could you repeat that?  in english, perhaps?
[01:57] <jason_> who is this
[01:57] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[01:57] <jason_> yea
[01:57] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm not sure
[01:57] <jason_> what do u mean
[01:57] <jason_> what is ur name
[01:57] <jason_> so how r u
[01:58] <Daisuke_Ido> my name is a series of pictographs that is entirely unpronouncable in your language
[01:58] <jason_> do you know anything bout computers
[01:58] <verzonnen> jason he is here is he not
[01:58] <Daisuke_Ido> but you can call me "squiggly line, squiggly line, eye, urinating dog"
[01:59] <jason_> do u know anything bout computers
[01:59] <Daisuke_Ido> !ask | jason_
[01:59] <ubotu> jason_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:59] <Rip> what do you need?
[02:00] <sayers> Where is the location of the install folder for java so I can locate the JRE and add it to Eclipse?
[02:01] <verzonnen> sayers "type java" on the command line
[02:01] <jason_> okay i cant play dvds on my computers when i have everything but it doesnnt do anything
[02:02] <chemicalvamp> is there an error message jason_?
[02:02] <jason_> so do u know how to fix it
[02:02] <jason_> i dont know it doesnt do anything
[02:02] <freexqf> how good is ntfs write support on kubuntu 7.04 beta?
[02:02] <freexqf> can i write to the ntfs without worrying?
[02:02] <chemicalvamp> have you tried
[02:02] <chemicalvamp> !dvd
[02:02] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:02] <jason_> okay thank you
[02:03] <chemicalvamp> np ,am
[02:03] <jason_> yea i have
[02:03] <chemicalvamp> !codec
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <jason_> what do u have linux or kubuntu
[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> kubuntu *is* linux.
[02:04] <sayers> Kubuntu is a distro of linux, few people really make their own distros and use just linux's kernel.
[02:04] <chemicalvamp> i was just gonna say that hehe
[02:04] <dwidmann> or more correctly, kubuntu has linux :)
[02:04] <freexqf> kubuntu use linux
[02:04] <zerothis> is it possible to run OSX (darwin) apps in Ubuntu?
[02:04] <sayers> dwidmann: I was correcter faster :P
[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> kubuntu contains that which is linux, surrounded by that which is not
[02:04] <dwidmann> sayers: bah humbug
[02:04] <freexqf> well, does anybody know how good is ntfs write support in kubuntu? should i use it without worryng?
[02:05] <sayers> verzonnen: that didnt work
[02:05] <jason_> i still dont know how ti fix it
[02:06] <zerothis> you should worry about everything, it helps. i worry about all sorts of things and then they never happen
[02:06] <verzonnen> sayers: what did not work?
[02:06] <jason_> i try to use it under kaffeine is there a better dvd player prgram
[02:06] <dwidmann> freexqf: ntfs write is always going to be a bit risky, if you need 100% reliability and would cry for weeks on end if you lost your data, ntfs write is not for you
[02:06] <sayers> verzonnen: the location of the jre
[02:06] <freexqf> ok.. not using, too much valuable data...
[02:06] <sayers> Here is an idea. Dont double boot.
[02:06] <verzonnen> sayers what was the output?
[02:06] <freexqf> thxks
[02:06] <dwidmann> jason_: kaffeine works well, vlc is good also, as is okle (though it is uses oss audio which is IMO a pain in the butt)
[02:07] <sayers> verzonnen: /usr/bin/java which isnt really a jre of what I want ?
[02:07] <jason_> how do i work it
[02:07] <jason_> though
[02:07] <chemicalvamp> do you think i could use vmware to run feisty?
[02:07] <verzonnen> sayers: I have no idea what you want
[02:07] <jason_> i just got linux
[02:08] <dwidmann> /usr/lib/jvm/[insert your jvm here] /bin <-- add me to your $PATH
[02:08] <jason_> i dont understand
[02:08] <dwidmann> chemicalvamp: you can
[02:09] <dwidmann> chemicalvamp: I think I still have herd2 installed in a vm laying around somewhere ...
[02:09] <jason_> so does any1 know what to do i u and just loaded up kubunt and i dont know what to do for the dvd player
[02:09] <dwidmann> !DVD | jason
[02:09] <ubotu> jason: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:10] <N6REJ> anyone know of a GOOD ftp program that handles chmod commands without so much mouse clicking?  Especially recursive and grouped folders
[02:10] <dwidmann> It's lying about k9copy, it's in multiverse o.O
[02:10] <chemicalvamp> !ftp
[02:10] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[02:11] <jason_> so ubotu how do i load the stuff up
[02:11] <N6REJ> kftpgrabber is terrible!
[02:11] <dwidmann> kftpgrabber is un-fun
[02:11] <N6REJ> thats the truth!
[02:11] <dwidmann> Konqueror works well, I also use wput and ftp ... they serve their purpose too
[02:11] <jason_> nevermind u guys r useless
[02:12] <dwidmann> jason_: ubotu is a bot ...
[02:12] <N6REJ> !kasablanca
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kasablanca - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <jason_> oo icic i dint now i dont use this ever
[02:13] <Powerking89670> is it possible to send a ping with the Konsole?
[02:13] <Powerking89670> I know Windows has a Ping command
[02:13] <N6REJ> jason, there's a whole section for learning about linux and ubuntu.
[02:13] <dwidmann> basically, you'll need to click this link: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages, and follow the instructions there to add the "Seveas" repository. Afterwards, you'll need to install the package "libdvdcss2", "libdvdread3", "libdvdnav4", and "libdvdplay0" in adept
[02:13] <N6REJ> Powerking89670: yep, "PING" in lowercase
[02:13] <Yorokobi> Powerking89670, ping <destination>
[02:13] <Powerking89670> kk thank you :D
[02:14] <Powerking89670> How do I stop the pinging
[02:15] <dwidmann> ctrl +c
[02:15] <chemicalvamp> ctrl c
[02:15] <Powerking89670> thank you
[02:15] <Powerking89670> thought I was DDOSing someone there for a second.....
[02:15] <Yorokobi> Powerking89670, that would be ping -f
[02:15] <N6REJ> lol
[02:15] <Powerking89670> lol
[02:18] <chemicalvamp> using vmware, can i also duel boot?
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> huh?
[02:19] <chemicalvamp> i mean like have 1/2 hdd for linux, and 1/2 for windows.. an run windows with vmware
[02:19] <dwidmann> chemicalvamp: do you mean, using an os both within a vmware and as another boot option? Maybe...
[02:19] <chemicalvamp> yes
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> i think may be possible
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> but i wouldn't know how to go about it
[02:20] <chemicalvamp> how is vmware normaly used? (dont give me the !vmware lol) i just want the jist of it
[02:23] <dwidmann> vmware is usually used so you can run multiple operating systems without running multiple computers (or going through the hassle of dual booting)
[02:24] <twiztr> But for vmware, you need a good amount of ram, usually.
[02:24] <flaccid> um !flash and !backports doesn't really tell you the package name for flash9 or how to install?
[02:25] <dwidmann> twiztr: a gig is pretty good for two, might be able to skate by with less, especially if the Os's are 32-bit
[02:25] <twiztr> dwidmann: Yea, I have to up my ram, soon.
[02:26] <chemicalvamp> twiztr, 1 gig good enough?
[02:26] <chemicalvamp> nevermind, didnt see that other message
[02:26] <dwidmann> I think I successfully got Ubuntu running with 128mb ram, it used more like 32mb when running, which was nice, but the installer requires >128mb, you'll run out of memory during the installer and it will take forever with no updates on the screen, heck, I thought it had froze, so I walked away, came back a while later and it was done, surprised me.
[02:27] <twiztr> chemicalvamp: Yea, I would be able to run two with one gig. But my box only have 512.
[02:28] <t3hwiz0rd> can anyone help me get wireless working on kubuntu? i just got my laptop. the device is seen and recognized, and wireless assistant picks up my network but won't connect.
[02:28] <twiztr> t3hwiz0rd: You shouldn't irc as root...
[02:28] <t3hwiz0rd> twiztr: it shouldn't be logged in as root 0.o
[02:28] <twiztr>  (n=root@ip72-200-103-253.tc.ph.cox.net).
[02:28] <dwidmann> Funny thing, before I took my computer down for a little bit earlier today, I think I was running at about 700+mb ram, with only one os ...
[02:28] <wizard_> ookay...
[02:28] <zerothis> vmware. need enough memory to run your host operating system, and the guest operating system, AND the programs your running in the guest OS, *AND* still have memory left for VMWare itself, _AND_ any other apps you want to run on the host OS at the same time.
[02:28] <dwidmann> back down to using 420mb now
[02:28] <twiztr> there
[02:28] <t3hwiz0rd> now
[02:28] <twiztr> lol
[02:29] <t3hwiz0rd> any idea why wireless assistant can pick up the network but when i enter in my wpa key it wont connect?
[02:29] <twiztr> Umm, what kind of lappy?
[02:29] <t3hwiz0rd> asus a8jm
[02:29] <t3hwiz0rd> the card seems to be supported by default from what i've heard, its intel
[02:29] <twiztr> Damn. It it was a Toshiba, I could of helped.
[02:29] <Powerking89670> is there a linux equivilent to cls? a command that clears the console window?
[02:30] <Yorokobi> Powerking89670, clear
[02:30] <dwidmann> Powerking89670: clear
[02:30] <Powerking89670> doh, that was obvious
[02:30] <Yorokobi> Powerking89670, or Ctrl-l
[02:30] <Powerking89670> thank you :D the hot chick backround was coverd with text...
[02:30] <Powerking89670> (I have it set to transparent)
[02:30] <dwidmann> Powerking89670: all of them are obvious, but when there are hundreds to dig through it makes things hard to find obvious or not
[02:30] <Arwen> Powerking89670, clear or clear_console
[02:30] <chemicalvamp> t3hwiz0rd, the easy way is to get knetworkmanager
[02:31] <dwidmann> Arwen:
[02:31] <dwidmann> dustin@terra:~$ clear_console
[02:31] <dwidmann> clear_console: terminal is not a console
[02:31] <Powerking89670> thats true dwidmann
[02:31] <dwidmann> most of the time that one won't help ...
[02:31] <Arwen> dwidmann, yes
[02:31] <Arwen> dwidmann, well, he said to clear the console...
[02:31] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: is it true that laptops that use the ipw3945 driver have support out-of-box?
[02:32] <chemicalvamp> what linux distro?
[02:32] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: kubuntu edgy 6.10
[02:33] <dwidmann> arwen:point goes to you
[02:33] <chemicalvamp> does it say "no usable wireless device" and exit right away?
[02:33] <Arwen> dwidmann, hehe
[02:33] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: nope, it can even see it
[02:33] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: as i said wireless assistant even picks up my network
[02:33] <t3hwiz0rd> just wont let me connect
[02:33] <chemicalvamp> ahh  get the same problem
[02:33] <t3hwiz0rd> and also where are the power management tools that used to be in kcontrol? its got my processors throttled down
[02:34] <dwidmann> t3hwiz0rd: if you have a godly internet connection and dont' mind downloading another cd, you could always try the feisty fawn beta and see if it works in it.
[02:34] <t3hwiz0rd> dwidmann: i don't want to update when the device clearly works.
[02:34] <Yorokobi> t3hwiz0rd, clearly, it isn't though ...
[02:34] <t3hwiz0rd> dwidmann: i just want some assistance on getting it to connect.
[02:34] <chemicalvamp> t3hwiz0rd, if you want a conection manager that will automaticly aquire an IP, AND connect it for you on startup.. get Knetwork config
[02:35] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: working on that, apt is in the middle of dist-upgrade lol
[02:35] <chemicalvamp> mine only works if i do a manual set-up
[02:35] <chemicalvamp> yeah that will solve your problem
[02:35] <chemicalvamp> your running a laptop im guessing?
[02:35] <dwidmann> Ouch, I've got a 300+mb upgrade sitting in front of me :(
[02:35] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: yes
[02:36] <chemicalvamp> t3hwiz0rd what is it?
[02:36] <jhutchins> Anybody running a netgear wg111t?
[02:36] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: asus a8jm, it has good reports of "just working" on linux fro mwhat i read
[02:36] <zerothis> i had to compile a lot of packages from source to get my wireless working. then I used wlassistant to connect
[02:36] <chemicalvamp> pentium or amd?
[02:36] <chemicalvamp> 64bit?
[02:37] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: core duo t2400 32 bit
[02:37] <jhutchins> zerothis: Yeah, that's what I'm reading.
[02:38] <chemicalvamp> whats the comand to info on cpu? anybody?
[02:38] <solomon_> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:38] <Yorokobi> chemicalvamp, edgy or feisty?
[02:38] <jhutchins> Mandriva it was urpmi ndiswrapper, ndiswrapper -i .inf1, ndiswrapper -i .inf2, mdiswrapper -m and it was up and running.
[02:38] <chemicalvamp> edgy
[02:39] <chemicalvamp> i got a few words about feisty's wireless.. and none of them are very nice :)
[02:39] <johny454> Does anytone know a good ID3 tagger for Linux_
[02:39] <chijin> johny454: easytag
[02:39] <jhutchins> Edgy if I unplug the dongle, the system locks up, which I think may be because of the ancient USB chipset.
[02:39] <johny454> Does anyone know a good ID3 tagger for Linux?
[02:39] <johny454> chijin: thanks
[02:40] <jhutchins> Amarok's a pretty good general collection manager.
[02:40] <verzonnen> my wireless worked out of the box on my laptop and PC, absolutely perfect
[02:41] <chemicalvamp> verzonnen, i upgraded my feisty thru chroot while running a edgy desktop cd, and still never got it to detect my wireless card
[02:42] <verzonnen> chemicalvamp: I know it can be a pain, I did pick the card for the PC to make sure it worked under linux
[02:42] <t3hwiz0rd> does anone know what hte package is for ipw3945 driver in ubuntu repos?
[02:43] <eeanm> t3hwiz0rd:  well its in the kernel ain't it
[02:43] <eeanm> now as to what happened to the ipw3945 daemon
[02:43] <eeanm> who knows
[02:43] <eeanm> (it disappeared in Feisty)
[02:44] <chemicalvamp> verzonnen i thought about buying a new wireless card for this laptop, but then i decided hey, if it works on edgy perfectly fine.. whats the point
[02:45] <t3hwiz0rd> eeanm if it works then why can't i connect to it at all?
[02:45] <twiztr> StaticX, Otep, and NighWish tickets!!!
[02:45] <twiztr> YAY!
[02:45] <dwidmann> twiztr: where?
[02:45] <verzonnen> chemicalvamp: sounds reasonable to me
[02:45] <twiztr> Seattle
[02:45] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[02:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:45] <chemicalvamp> kinda funnt though.. when i did lspci in fiesty knew what it was, but it didnt work
[02:45] <dwidmann> crud
[02:46] <chemicalvamp> BUT when i do lspci here in edgy, it says its an unknown device.. and yet it works
[02:46] <dwidmann> Seattle is much far too long a drive from Virginia :P ... Probably 3 days or so ... too long indeed
[02:46] <zerothis> when will fiesty be ready instead of 'development'
[02:46] <Yorokobi> zerothis: sometime this month
[02:46] <verzonnen> never ;)
[02:47] <chemicalvamp> well fixing the network bugs is just one step closer to a release
[02:47] <Skrot-> zerothis: 19. april
[02:47] <dwidmann> verzonnen: well, have to do releases from time to time, otherwise you end up like, umm, gentoo or something
[02:47] <twiztr> I haven't seen a good show in way to long, because MSI and a few otherscanceled.
[02:47] <BluesKaj> Yorokobi: my Feisty install broke the kernel , couldn't get back to a prompt ...reinstalled edgy
[02:48] <verzonnen> releasing it and being out of development are two different things
[02:48] <dwidmann> twiztr: I haven't seen a good show ever really, but I'd take that one if it were closer :(
[02:49] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj: I hope you didn't lose anything that you needed in the process.
[02:49] <BluesKaj> Yorokobi: not really i still ahve all the real important stuff on the windows partition
[02:50] <zerothis> ahha! i just found "pearpc" in adept. is that Darwin/OSX also or OX 9 only?7
[02:51] <chemicalvamp> for vmware what would wndows media center edition be considered?
[02:51] <chemicalvamp> its not on the list
[02:51] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, xp
[02:51] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj: I can't afford to lose anything on my desktop box. It'd take me two weeks to get everything set up again
[02:52] <zerothis> windows edition N would probably be better
[02:52] <Arwen> zerothis, HUH?
[02:52] <Arwen> Edition N is broken :-\
[02:52] <t3hwiz0rd> what does kubuntu use for power management?>
[02:52] <chemicalvamp> do i need to have a seperate partition for the guest OS?
[02:53] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: i got it conncted btw ;-)
[02:53] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, no, stores it as a file on the HDD
[02:53] <chemicalvamp> cool, was it with knetworkmanager?
[02:53] <flaccid> how to install flash 9 on dapper?
[02:53] <t3hwiz0rd> nope
[02:53] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: it didn't like my key lol
[02:54] <zerothis> Edition N, yep, all those security flaws, broken.
[02:54] <chemicalvamp> manualy input your ip and such>?
[02:54] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: what would i do to change my power settings now?
[02:54] <BluesKaj> Yorokobi:  I haven't had the guts to totally migrate to kubuntu cuz i know my curiosity gets me in deep trouble sometimes so I know I need a backup
[02:54] <BluesKaj> :)
[02:55] <chemicalvamp> t3hwiz0rd what do you mean
[02:55] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: the options in kcontrol to manage power are gone
[02:55] <Powerking89670> so who likes proxys? I hate them....im making a nice long list of them to blacklist on my friends IRC server...
[02:56] <chemicalvamp> t3hwiz0rd by the way when you get tired of having to open wlassistant to cennect your wireless after every reboot, sudo apt-get knetworkmanager
[02:56] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: knetworkmanager is installed
[02:56] <Arwen> zerothis, um, yes, WMP exploits no longer exist, but also, everything that depends on WMP and it's libraries also fail
[02:56] <t3hwiz0rd> it doesn't see my wifi tho
[02:56] <chemicalvamp> oh hehe
[02:56] <chemicalvamp> hmm
[02:56] <Arwen> flaccid, a) with a nick change and b) in multiverse backports I think
[02:57] <flaccid> a) negative
[02:57] <flaccid> b) package name?
[02:57] <t3hwiz0rd> no one will answer my question... what does kubuntu use to manage power options on laptops? it seems to be gone from kcontrol
[02:57] <Arwen> flashplugin-nonfree - I think v9 is in backports
[02:58] <Daisuke_Ido> why would i be getting no sound in zsnes now :\
[02:58] <Arwen> if you don't enable backports, you'll probably get v7
[02:58] <flaccid> t3hwiz0rd: acpi
[02:58] <t3hwiz0rd> flaccid: and its gui frontend?
[02:59] <flaccid> system settings -> laptops and power
[02:59] <t3hwiz0rd> under kcontrol?
[02:59] <flaccid> kontrol -> Laptop Battery
[02:59] <flaccid> thanks Arwen
[02:59] <t3hwiz0rd> i don't see either
[03:00] <flaccid> i'm on dapper and they are there
[03:00] <flaccid> maybe i installed them can't remember
[03:00] <verzonnen> flaccid: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Unofficial_Ubuntu_6.10_.28Edgy_Eft.29_Starter_Guide
[03:00] <chemicalvamp> t3hwiz0rd double click your batery icon in the sys tray
[03:00] <Arwen> as a side note, if you can't get a working one, you can just download them from adobe.com and put em in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[03:00] <billytwowilly> hey, anyone know of a linux interface to facebook? Like something to deal with messages?
[03:01] <billytwowilly> besides firefox/konqueror of course;)
[03:01] <chemicalvamp> err single click actually lol
[03:01] <Arwen> billytwowilly, ....facebook... *grumble*
[03:01] <Arwen> at least it's better than myspace.... *grumble*
[03:01] <billytwowilly> lol. It's a nice system. My friends converted me today.
[03:01] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: knetworkmanager fails to load my wireless networks
[03:01] <t3hwiz0rd> in trusted and untrusted... its blank
[03:01] <Apollo^101> i just installed ntfs-3g but i am unable to write nfts partitions. what can be the reason?
[03:01] <Yorokobi> t3hwiz0rd: it won't list them until you've successfully connected via knetworkmanager
[03:02] <Arwen> Apollo^101, do you mount them as ntfs-3g? and did you mount with gid=<fusegid>?
[03:02] <chemicalvamp> t3hwiz0rd huh, i bet you have the same one as whats on feisty
[03:02] <zerothis> apollo, you need to turn ntfs writing on
[03:02] <zerothis> there is a gui tool for that
[03:02] <t3hwiz0rd> Yorokobi: how can i connect to it?
[03:02] <t3hwiz0rd> Yorokobi: it doesn't give me the option to find it or even connect
[03:03] <Yorokobi> t3hwiz0rd: what happens when you right-click the systray icon for it?
[03:03] <flaccid> verzonnen: i'm not on edgy
[03:03] <t3hwiz0rd> it has just some bland options
[03:03] <t3hwiz0rd> wired network, options, help, quit
[03:03] <Yorokobi> t3hwiz0rd: it should give you a list of wireless connection options
[03:03] <zerothis> appollo:the ntfs-config package provides it
[03:03] <Yorokobi> t3hwiz0rd: under Wireless Devices
[03:04] <t3hwiz0rd> don't see anything that says wireless devices, Yorokobi
[03:04] <haffi> I have some trouble with screen resolution in KDE
[03:05] <haffi> it only gives me two choices, 800x600 and 640x480
[03:05] <Yorokobi> t3hwiz0rd: it sounds like it doesn't know you have a wireless NIC
[03:05] <haffi> but I want 1024x768
[03:05] <t3hwiz0rd> Yorokobi: well i am connected on it riught now lol
[03:05] <Apollo^101> arvid, i never mounted any thing. i have no problem with fat32
[03:05] <t3hwiz0rd> Yorokobi: any way to specify to it?
[03:05] <Apollo^101> arvid, how can i moount?
[03:05] <Yorokobi> t3hwiz0rd: oh sure, make me pull out my laptop now :)
[03:06] <Arwen> haffi, is your video card working?
[03:06] <jaevel> what is better with networking, Ubuntu or Kubuntu? or are they the same?
[03:06] <haffi> yeah, everything was working
[03:06] <Arwen> haffi, if so, go specify 1024x768 in your xorg.conf (backup first, also, 1024x768????????)
[03:06] <haffi> I have an xorg.conf which I copied from my gentoo installation
[03:07] <Arwen> haffi, oh, if you have an Intel card, you might need 915resolution, dunno
[03:07] <haffi> and I was only setting a power saving feature when everything went haywire
[03:07] <Arwen> hmm, dunno then
[03:08] <flaccid> Arwen: flash is installed, however it does not work in firefox
[03:08] <sayers> Where does ubuntu automagicly install Java 1.6's JRE?
[03:08] <Arwen> flaccid, no? what happen?
[03:08] <Arwen> sayers, nowhere
[03:08] <flaccid> nothing happen thats what
[03:08] <flaccid> how to diagnose. this is with firefox 2 on dapper
[03:08] <Arwen> flaccid, enter "about:plugins" in firefox, see if it's recognized
[03:08] <Yorokobi> sayers: the binaries for java go in /usr/bin
[03:08] <waxyfresh> can i get some help with this?:root@sleepless:~# kdesu adapt
[03:08] <waxyfresh> kdesu: cannot connect to X server
[03:09] <flaccid> i only have libnull plugin
[03:09] <Apollo^101> Arwen, i never mounted any thing
[03:10] <t3hwiz0rd> Yorokobi: any answers?
[03:11] <Yorokobi> t3hwiz0rd: sorry, I had to get my laptop, set it up, then go help my wife with a couple of things.
[03:11] <Arwen> Apollo^101, well then... I wonder why you can't access your ntfs partitions? lol
[03:11] <Apollo^101> Arwen, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13960/
[03:11] <Apollo^101> Arwen, i never had problem with fat32
[03:12] <sayers> How do I remove somthing and save more space then using aptitude remove Name?
[03:12] <Arwen> sayers, you can do "apt-get clean" to clean out the downloaded apps cache
[03:12] <chijin> fat32 is a pain
[03:12] <Arwen> also, you can do --purge, but that has a minimal effect (removes some stuff from /etc)
[03:12] <flaccid> i see my problem
[03:12] <chemicalvamp> whats the copy command for copyin a folder, to another folder? (i gotta do it in sudo cuz im copying to a folder i dont have permission to
[03:12] <flaccid> damn ubuntu!
[03:13] <Arwen> Apollo^101, where it says "ntfs", replace it with "ntfs-3g"
[03:13] <verzonnen> chemicalvamp: to copy the whole folder use "cp -r"
[03:13] <Ferojasrom> Hey, What is the password or root or sudo of kubuntu
[03:14] <chemicalvamp> sudo: cp-r: command not found
[03:14] <t3hwiz0rd> Yorokobi: if you could please /msg me your results
[03:14] <Apollo^101> ok
[03:14] <Arwen> chemicalvamp, cp -r
[03:14] <Arwen> :-)
[03:14] <chemicalvamp> ohh
[03:14] <t3hwiz0rd> Yorokobi: i need to go for a run to make sure i don't get fat
[03:14] <Ferojasrom> Hey, What is the password or root or sudo of kubuntu
[03:14] <zerothis> off to configure pearpc
[03:15] <Ferojasrom> What is the password or root or sudo of kubuntu??
[03:15] <Yorokobi> Ferojasrom: there is no root password. The sudo password is your password
[03:16] <verzonnen> Ferojasrom: no password for root
[03:16] <verzonnen> Ferojasrom: sudo su -
[03:16] <haffi_> sudo su - ?
[03:16] <verzonnen> Ferojasrom: "then passwd root"
[03:16] <Arwen> haffi, that uses sudo to run su, which more or less creates a root shell
[03:17] <grego_> Hi all, is it possible to strip all binaries at once after compilation?
[03:17] <Yorokobi> Ferojasrom: or sudo -s (same as sudo su -)
[03:17] <Arwen> Yorokobi, it's not
[03:17] <Arwen> sudo -s = sudo bash, it doesn't create a login shell
[03:17] <Arwen> sudo -i is a closer interpretation
[03:17] <Yorokobi> Arwen: a bit nit picky today, yeah? :)
[03:18] <Arwen> Yorokobi, that's actually an important difference
[03:18] <Arwen> Ferojasrom, if you have a good reason to make a rootpw, "sudo passwd root" is the right way to do it
[03:18] <Yorokobi> Arwen: you're right, of course, but the effect of the two commands is the same--superficially. You get to be root.
[03:18] <Arwen> Yorokobi, hmm, yes, but one creates a different environment which apparently some admins require
[03:19] <Yorokobi> Kubuntu doesn't
[03:19] <Arwen> Yorokobi, ?? I just said that certain system admins want their true root environment... nothing to do with *buntu
[03:19] <Yorokobi> or, vanilla Kubuntu at any rate
[03:19] <Yorokobi> lol, I'm done
[03:20] <sayers> Anyone have any direct recommendations for KDE looks ?
[03:20] <Arwen> I'm done spouting nonsense too :-)
[03:20] <Arwen> sayers, beryl!
[03:20] <Arwen> or, what do you mean by looks?
[03:20] <Yorokobi> kde-look.org ??
[03:21] <sayers> Arwen: Beryl is far from productive. it just looks cool
[03:21] <sayers> I mean like themes/colors
[03:21] <flaccid> rightio i hacked that
[03:22] <flaccid> now for shockwave ?
[03:22] <flaccid> !shockwave
[03:22] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[03:22] <flaccid> oh dang
[03:22] <flaccid> doesn't matter
[03:22] <Yorokobi> sayers: I'm more productive with beryl. I mean, how nice is it to move windows around with Super+1-9 ?? Very nice.
[03:23] <sayers> I am not productve with it, it runs fast and all but just not good for use in a programming environment or every day use... or atleast thats what I think
[03:23] <Arwen> flaccid, hehe, blame adobe
[03:23] <Arwen> that said, Shockwave is kinda useless
[03:23] <flaccid> yes and blame adobe for making flash9 with alsa for sound
[03:23] <Yorokobi> yeah, to borrow from perl culture, tmtowtdi
[03:23] <Arwen> flaccid, what's wrong with alsa? alsa rules
[03:24] <flaccid> i use freebsd for desktop
[03:24] <flaccid> it discriminates against non-linux users
[03:24] <flaccid> and i need shockwave coz i'm a web dev
[03:24] <jaevel> anyone have problems with browsing windows networks file shares?
[03:24] <Powerking89670> night everyone
[03:25] <Arwen> flaccid, wine it is then, lol
[03:25] <flaccid> yeah i guess so, i'll wait till i need
[03:25] <Arwen> jaevel, I can't find mine since samba doesn't do nbnr over bcast, buyt...
[03:25] <flaccid> jaevel: no
[03:25] <Arwen> but*
[03:25] <sayers> jaevel: no but windows has problems :P , seriously though I think its how you set up the options
[03:25] <Apollo^101> thanks all
[03:25] <jaevel> oh...
[03:25] <flaccid> nbnr over bcast?
[03:26] <sayers> jaevel: what are you trying to do?
[03:26] <jaevel> i cant seem to browse my network.. i see the workgroup but cannot see anything under that
[03:26] <jaevel> well, reinstalling kubuntu
[03:26] <Arwen> flaccid, netbios name resolution over bcast packets
[03:26] <jaevel> atm
[03:26] <flaccid> need to configure smb correctly and ensure its not being blocked by anything
[03:26] <Arwen> basically, if you don't have a local dns server, Windows resolves hostnames by bcast
[03:26] <flaccid> NetBT you mean
[03:26] <sayers> reinstalling the Distro doesnt fix much.
[03:27] <flaccid> samba3 can support that
[03:27] <Arwen> flaccid, oh?
[03:27] <flaccid> it needs to be configured however
[03:27] <sayers> In linux you will probably never have to reinstall the distro unless you dont know how to fix it at all
[03:27] <jaevel> i broke it pretty badly
[03:27] <Arwen> flaccid, elaborate
[03:27] <jaevel> thats my prob...
[03:27] <sayers> how did you break it?
[03:27] <jaevel> i broke the nic card
[03:27] <flaccid> read the docs @ samba.org
[03:27] <sayers> nic card?
[03:27] <jaevel> i remove net-tools
[03:28] <jaevel> that killed the network card
[03:28] <sayers> oh hm
[03:28] <jaevel> no more internet
[03:28] <jaevel> hm?
[03:28] <sayers> it would be fixable for someone with experience,
[03:28] <jaevel> im sure...
[03:28] <sayers> but yeah once you dont have internet
[03:28] <sayers> no google
[03:28] <sayers> no easy fixes
[03:28] <surgy> hi
[03:28] <jaevel> i see...
[03:28] <jaevel> learned that the hard way i guess....
[03:28] <sayers> google in the wiki has it all
[03:29] <jaevel> i guess im gonna need some help getting samba setup correctly....
[03:29] <sayers> if you want to do somthing spend 5 minutes searching for it rather than an hour trying to fix what you broke
[03:29] <waxyfresh> anyone have a link to a .deb for vidalia?
[03:29] <surgy> anyone know of any good windows managers for carputers?
[03:29] <sayers> jaevel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%29
[03:30] <jaevel> sayers: thanks...
[03:30] <jaevel> i just installed ubuntu a week ago...
[03:30] <[BTF] Chm0d> how do i delete the panel in kubuntu
[03:30] <jaevel> learned alot so far....
[03:32] <flaccid> i dont get why the flashplugin-nonfree package stores files in /var/cache and symlinks: ./usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplayer.xpt -> /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplayer.xpt
[03:32] <waxyfresh> how do i install a .deb
[03:32] <flaccid> dpkg -i ./file.deb
[03:32] <halebopp> Hola
[03:32] <chemicalvamp> hola
[03:33] <chemicalvamp> que pasa
[03:33] <Arwen> flaccid, hmm, no idea
[03:33] <flaccid> is /var/cache/* static or does it get deleted
[03:33] <Arwen> doesn't for me, maybe yours was broken? that said, try edgy or feisty - it'll work wonders
[03:33] <Arwen> /var/cache is static until it's cleaned out
[03:34] <flaccid> hell no
[03:34] <[BTF] Chm0d> can you remove the bottom panel in kubuntu? I know in gnome you can but when I right click on the panel I dont have that option in kde
[03:34] <flaccid> why should i have to reinstall
[03:34] <flaccid> dapper is lts
[03:34] <Arwen> because newer == better, didn't you come from gentoo?
[03:34] <flaccid> when is /var/cache cleaned out
[03:34] <flaccid> newer does not equal better
[03:34] <flaccid> no
[03:34] <Arwen> when x program decides it feels like cleaning it out
[03:34] <flaccid> i'm a freebsd user
[03:35] <flaccid> x program?
[03:35] <Arwen> yes, any generic program
[03:35] <flaccid> so you are basically saying you don't know
[03:35] <chemicalvamp> [BTF] Chm0d well i guess if its buggin you.. you could maybe ctrl+alt+escape it ;)
[03:35] <Arwen> unlike /tmp, /var/cache doesn't have any special meaning - but lots of programs clean out sections at times
[03:35] <Arwen> flaccid, ^^
[03:35] <[BTF] Chm0d> :)
[03:35] <chemicalvamp> but dont ask me how to get it back lol
[03:35] <flaccid> that doesn't really inform anything
[03:35] <flaccid> you don't know what manages /var/cache
[03:35] <[BTF] Chm0d> not buggin me was just goin to have kiba-dock there dats all
[03:36] <Arwen> flaccid, /var/cache isn't managed, the individual sections are
[03:36] <halebopp> Tengo Amaro 1.4.3 pero no puede reproducir mp3 que estan en red, la otra computadora tiene windows xp. Qu puedo hacer?
[03:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> ill just move it :P
[03:36] <Arwen> /var/cache/apt is managed by apt, /var/cache/blah is managed by blah
[03:36] <flaccid> well thats what im talking about
[03:36] <Yorokobi> !es | halebopp
[03:36] <ubotu> halebopp: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:36] <Arwen> so, that brings us to the conclusion that /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree is managed by flashplugin-nonfree
[03:37] <flaccid> what manages /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree and why is it installed there. if you don't know just say so
[03:37] <Arwen> or, since flash can't do anything itself, that means apt is managing it
[03:37] <flaccid> flashplugin-nonfree is the package. how does a package maintain a directory?
[03:37] <Arwen> it's not supposed to be installed there, something probably broke
[03:37] <flaccid> it is installed there
[03:37] <flaccid> as per the package contents of the .deb..
[03:37] <flaccid> eg. dpkg -c /var/cache/apt/archives/flashplugin-nonfree_<IP_ADDRESS>.1ubuntu1~dapper1_i386.deb
[03:37] <halebopp> Gracias ubotu
[03:38] <Arwen> flaccid, mine's in /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree so I think you have a problem...
[03:38] <chemicalvamp> halebopp, si #ubuntu-es es muy beuno
[03:38] <flaccid> Arwen: thats the symlink
[03:38] <Arwen> no, it's not a symlink on mine
[03:39] <flaccid> you are not on dapper
[03:39] <flaccid> its a dif package
[03:39] <flaccid> i assume
[03:39] <Arwen> I'll check
[03:39] <Yorokobi> this is why I use the installer from adobe.com ^^^
[03:39] <Arwen> flaccid, ^^
[03:39] <Arwen> it's really 2 files, no sense not doing a manual
[03:39] <flaccid> Yorokobi: shouldn't need to do that... *shouldn't*
[03:40] <Yorokobi> flaccid: I shouldn't need to use *BSD for good IPSec, but I do anyway.
[03:40] <flaccid> defeats the whole purpose of the packaging system...
[03:40] <Arwen> flaccid, the package is just a wrapper around a script to fetch and run adobe's installer
[03:40] <Yorokobi> its flash ...
[03:40] <flaccid> no it snot
[03:41] <flaccid> not flashplugin-nonfree_<IP_ADDRESS>.1ubuntu1~dapper1_i386.deb
[03:41] <Arwen> it is, the package consists of a script with "wget <> && tar xzf <> && cp <blah blah>
[03:41] <Yorokobi> but it works
[03:41] <Yorokobi> so, who cares?
[03:41] <Yorokobi> Half of what I have installed I didn't use the debs for.
[03:42] <flaccid> Arwen: http://pastebin.ca/424862
[03:42] <flaccid> Yorokobi: it will work until the /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree is removed
[03:42] <flaccid> Arwen: which package is this
[03:42] <flaccid> and what is the name of the script filename in the .deb
[03:43] <Yorokobi> lo que sea
[03:43] <flaccid> actually i see that in /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree-unpackdir/
[03:43] <Arwen> flashplugin-nonfree (repository version at least, not seveas) - the script is the standard install script in all debs
[03:44] <lauchazombie> hello
[03:44] <nam_> bonjour
[03:44] <lauchazombie> if i share some folder whit kpf
[03:44] <lauchazombie> what would be the rout to it?
[03:44] <lauchazombie> like , what should someone write in the web browser
[03:44] <lauchazombie> to download the files?
[03:44] <flaccid> and you are referring to install_flash_player_9_linux/flashplayer-installer
[03:45] <Arwen> flaccid, actually, I take that back, I'm sorry - my system has install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz in /var/cache and the actual libraries in /usr/lib
[03:45] <nam_> quelqu'un parle francais???
[03:45] <Yorokobi> Who was having the CPU scaling problem with edgy? jaevel? jager? someone else?
[03:45] <lauchazombie> just spanish and some english
[03:45] <Yorokobi> !fr | nam_
[03:45] <ubotu> nam_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:46] <flaccid> Arwen: what does file /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplayer.xpt return?
[03:46] <nam_> thank you obotu
[03:47] <jager> wasn't i Yorokobi
[03:47] <junocdx> can anyone help me with aticonfig?
[03:48] <twiztr> I just got followed home by a police cruser...
[03:48] <twiztr> >.<
[03:48] <Arwen> flaccid, flashplayer.xpt: symbolic link to `../../flashplugin-nonfree/flashplayer.xpt'
[03:48] <Arwen> but then again, /usr/lib/mozilla is a symlink to /usr/lib/firefox
[03:48] <twiztr> Me = No license.
[03:48] <twiztr> Woud have sucked.
[03:49] <flaccid> and probably symlinks back to /var/cache/..
[03:49] <flaccid> this is ridiculous system
[03:49] <flaccid> looks like the package script calls the flash installer to install into /var/cache/....
[03:49] <drew> i cant put anything in the source folder!
[03:49] <flaccid> i mean /var is for spooling, i don't know why ubuntu uses it for things like apache and libs..
[03:49] <drew> help!
[03:50] <flaccid> but then again there are lot of things like this in ubuntu that don't make sense
[03:50] <flaccid> some people will see /var/cache and think they can remove stuff in it to free space
[03:50] <Arwen> flaccid, not here... mine is physically in /usr/lib - I think the stuff in /var you're seeing is temporary junk, but maybe not - you have dapper after all
[03:50] <Yorokobi> flaccid: you'll find pretty much the same file structure in other Linux distros (RHEL, FC6, CentOS, Debian, etc)
[03:51] <drew> hey any one know why my roots are lokced out?
[03:51] <Yorokobi> Can you be a bit more precise, drew?
[03:52] <drew> i cant put tarballs into the root folder etc/apt/sources.list.
[03:52] <Yorokobi> drew: why would you want to do that?
[03:52] <drew> to install beryl
[03:52] <flaccid> Yorokobi: yeah i know. still doesn't make sense.
[03:52] <Yorokobi> That's not how its done
[03:52] <drew> yorokobi: how do i unlock it
[03:53] <flaccid> Yorokobi: it even contradicts man hier
[03:53] <Ace2016> maybe because /etc/apt/sources.list sin't a folder?
[03:53] <flaccid> Arwen: um its not temporary as per my pastebin...
[03:53] <twiztr> drew: change the root passwd to something you know, and then log in as root and do it, though I don't recommend i.
[03:53] <Yorokobi> drew: why are you using .tar.gz's Are you planning on compiling from source?
[03:54] <Ace2016> just use 3v1n0's repo he the latest beryl from svn is there
[03:54] <flaccid> Arwen: and you keep dissing dapper. i know its shit, but its LTS
[03:54] <drew> yorokobi: yes
[03:54] <Yorokobi> drew: keep the .tar.gz's in your home dir
[03:54] <drew> okay how do i change thr root pass
[03:54] <Arwen> flaccid, well, it's what it is
[03:54] <flaccid> all this stuff pretty much demonstrate the unstable nature of ubuntu
[03:54] <twiztr> drew: one sec
[03:54] <Arwen> drew, you can use sudo -i/sudo -s
[03:55] <flaccid> i prefer a stable operating system, not a 'cutting edge' broken one
[03:55] <cpk1> wait, the way ubuntu uses /var displays its unstable nature?
[03:55] <twiztr> goto K>systemsettings>usermanagement>
[03:55] <Arwen> dapper is far from cutting edge.....
[03:55] <twiztr> clickt eh show system accounts checkbox
[03:55] <cpk1> edgy is far from cutting edge =\
[03:55] <Arwen> feisty is far from cutting edge for that matter
[03:55] <twiztr> click on Administrator mode
[03:56] <Yorokobi> So, I have a question of my own. What happened to the screen capture applet for KDE (in feisty)?
[03:56] <twiztr> double click root
[03:56] <twiztr> set it to active(or enable), set a password
[03:57] <drew> umm its blank
[03:57] <twiztr> type somethign in
[03:58] <twiztr> any password you want
[03:58] <twiztr> then make sure to click ok
[03:58] <twiztr> then go back to system settings, clickt he advance tab
[03:58] <twiztr> click login manager
[03:59] <Yorokobi> And people say gui's are easier? ^^^
[03:59] <twiztr> Yorokobi: I know what you mean...
[04:00] <twiztr> gah, i dont remember how to enable local root login
[04:00] <Yorokobi> There's no need to set a password for root.
[04:00] <twiztr> hold down ctrl+alt+f2 and log in as root and startx
[04:00] <drew> that dint delp anyway
[04:00] <twiztr> Now log in as root, and you have access to the root folders
[04:01] <twiztr> That's just how to get around the K/Ubuntu no root think.
[04:01] <twiztr> thing*
[04:02] <twiztr> See you all in a few sec, I'm going back to my faithful command line, and irssi.
[04:07] <obat> hello, I have a friend who was just moving files in konqueror when he hit a disk full error. Most of the files are in one of the two locations, but some are gone
[04:07] <obat> does anyone know if these files will exist anywhere?
[04:10] <cyber-hazard> anyone tried the edgy -> feisty upgrade tool? I'm having a problem with it
[04:13] <deeo> obat: that's not exactly possible...
[04:13] <deeo> obat: the files aren't modified until the copy is complete
[04:13] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: yeah, I've used it twice now.
[04:13] <obat> deeo: you mean the files shouldn't have been deleted until they were copied?
[04:14] <cyber-hazard> Yorokobi: when I use it, I get all the way to the prompt that downloads the tool. Then it tells me to click finish to close Adept and start the tool. I click finish....nothing. close adept....nothing
[04:15] <Yorokobi> It should auto-start. I've had it hide behind adept before. I want to say that if you close adept it'll close as well (as it expects to be the one to close adept).
[04:16] <cyber-hazard> Hmmm, okay, let me try that real quick
[04:16] <obat> deeo: konqueror might act differently then direct command line, because I've looked for the files everywhere
[04:17] <cyber-hazard> Yorokobi: though the page says there's a bug in the tool and that you have to close adept
[04:17] <Yorokobi> I haven't run into that bug
[04:17] <cyber-hazard> negative, it's not hiding behind adept. not really sure what's going on =\
[04:18] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: the thing that got me both times I used it is I didn't follow the instructions precisely. I missed a step (read over it).
[04:19] <deeo> obat: i'm certain of it.  in fact, konqueror even compares the files after copy to ensure integrity.
[04:19] <Yorokobi> heh, I mean I read/skipped over a step
[04:19] <Yorokobi> gotta love English sometimes.
[04:19] <cyber-hazard> heheh, yeah. what step? cause the there didn't seem to be many steps involved
[04:20] <deeo> obat: the only scenario where files might be lost is if during copy they are deleted by an outside source
[04:20] <deeo> obat: in any case, you can use the find tool to search for the files on the command line: find / -iname "filename"
[04:21] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: I think it was the Full Upgrade -> Apply, I didn't apply once and didn't full upgrade once.
[04:21] <cyber-hazard> ah
[04:21] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: do you get the installer or just Adept's warning about it starting?
[04:22] <obat> deeo: okay, I'll try searching the whole drive for the files
[04:22] <obat> deeo: thank you for the answer
[04:22] <cyber-hazard> Yorokobi: I just get the little dialog that opens a window on top of Adept, then I click through a couple dialogs where it downloads the tool (supposedly) to the tmp directory, then it says to click finish to close Adept and launch the tool
[04:22] <cyber-hazard> i never actually get to the tool itself
[04:23] <deeo> obat: to save yourself some time, you could always run updatedb first, then use the locate command
[04:23] <deeo> not sure if you knew that or not, so i thought i'd mention it
[04:23] <dotnick> does anyone know when the new-legacy drivers for the nvidia cards might be available?
[04:23] <cyber-hazard> hehehe, something about the term "new-legacy" just cracks me up
[04:23] <AxlRose> if you upgrade something how can u step back to the previous version
[04:23] <dotnick> :)
[04:23] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: the upgrade tool is a python script, if its still in /tmp you may be able to start in manually. Or you can upgrade the old-school way
[04:24] <cyber-hazard> Yorokobi: yeah, I looked in the temp, doesn't appear to be in there anywhere, at least not in a format i'd expect it to be in
[04:24] <Yorokobi> AxlRose: if you use Synaptic then you can search for the package, highlight it and then use Ctrl-E to pick from a list of previous versions of the package.
[04:25] <AxlRose> Yorokobi:  I use adept
[04:26] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: old school method: Change every instance of "edgy" in /etc/apt/sources.list to "feisty" then run 'sudo apt-get update' followed by 'sudo apt-get -y -f dist-upgrade' and go get a drink or sandwich (or both).
[04:26] <cyber-hazard> i was reading somewhere that dist-upgrade is pretty unreliable though
[04:26] <Yorokobi> AxlRose: heh, use adept to install synaptic then start using synaptic. There may be a way to do it in Adept but I'm not familiar with it.
[04:26] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: it can be
[04:27] <cyber-hazard> honestly, I'm getting to the point where I might upload my files to my fileserver, then just wipe it out with the new version :P
[04:27] <cyber-hazard> it's a work computer, so I don't keep much locally
[04:27] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: that works just as well and is probably just as fast (at least for the initial install, not counting the upgrades)
[04:29] <cyber-hazard> yeah, i'll probably just download the beta
[04:29] <cyber-hazard> i wasn't running the 64bit version of kubuntu anyways, so it seems like a decent time to upgrade
[04:29] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: did you use the 64bit repo to run the upgrader?
[04:29] <cyber-hazard> nope
[04:30] <cyber-hazard> running fulll 32 bit here
[04:30] <Yorokobi> okay, just making sure
[04:30] <cyber-hazard> company told me to so I could run their software, but.....yeah, I don't actually use their software much
[04:30] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: XO?
[04:31] <cyber-hazard> pardon?
[04:31] <Yorokobi> nevermind
[04:31] <cyber-hazard> errr.....okay
[04:31] <cyber-hazard> :P
[04:31] <Yorokobi> your IP belongs to XO Communications. Granted, they parcel out a lot of IP space
[04:32] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: haha, I didn't mean XOXOX rotfl
[04:32] <cyber-hazard> lol
[04:32] <cyber-hazard> naw, I didn't think you did
[04:32] <cyber-hazard> as far as our IP, it comes from our T1, so i'm sure XO probably owns that network or something
[04:33] <Yorokobi> My employer has a T1 from them as well. My former had a 100MB ethernet connection. That was fun.
[04:33] <cyber-hazard> lol
[04:33] <cyber-hazard> our T1 sucks. we have a cable connection for downloading ISO's and stuff
[04:33] <cyber-hazard> I'm usually on that
[04:34] <Yorokobi> Yeah, my DSL is considerably faster than T1
[04:34] <Yorokobi> now I'm off topic ...
[04:35] <cyber-hazard> Uhoh
[04:35] <cyber-hazard> quick, answer questions!
[04:35] <cyber-hazard>  /cricket-chirp
[04:41] <Skrot-> Hi, does http://www.vg.no make konqueror (3.5.6) a bit unresponsive and laggy for other than me?
[04:44] <AxlRose> can anyone help me with a quick DOSBOX question
[04:44] <fignew> Skrot-: no major problems here
[04:44] <fignew> I don't have flash installed though
[04:45] <Skrot-> Seems a bit faster without flash
[04:46] <waxyfresh> can i get some repo related help::http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=401331
[04:56] <waxyfresh> is anyone in here?
[04:59] <NightBird> I'm not in here
[05:00] <waxyfresh> whys the room so slow?
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> maybe everyones stuff is working?
[05:01] <tulio__> or there are no doubts
[05:01] <waxyfresh> lol
[05:01] <toferrado> How can I set a screensaver as my desktop background?
[05:01] <waxyfresh> so anyone have an idea aboute my repo problem
[05:03] <kaner_> is there a way to invoke the new updater manually?
[05:04] <MarcC> Is there a way to find installed packages I haven't used for a while?
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> kaner_, don't know about the graphical one, but u can always run apt-get update
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> kaner_, does the same thing, more or less
[05:05] <kaner_> well update will update the package list
[05:05] <kaner_> maybe your thinking of dist-upgrade
[05:05] <waxyfresh> marc deborphan or something like that
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> kaner_, yeah, that's it
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> kaner_, sorry, 10 things at once
[05:06] <chemicalvamp> whats the command to check kernel version?
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> uname -r
[05:06] <fannagoganna> uname -r
[05:06] <fannagoganna> or uname -a
[05:06] <chemicalvamp> whats the difernce
[05:06] <fannagoganna> uname -a tells you ALL the kernel info
[05:06] <fannagoganna> uname -r essentially gives you the version info
[05:06] <waxyfresh> can i get some repo related help::http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=401331
[05:06] <kaner_> cool, i didnt know if the new little tool did something fancy
[05:07] <fannagoganna> no, nothing fancy
[05:07] <fannagoganna> it works, so no, nothing too fancy :)
[05:08] <kaner_> heh, it just seems like every release they have a new gui upgrade deal
[05:08] <fannagoganna> i would be thrilled if every new release had half the bugs of the previous one :D
[05:08] <kaner_> i live for the bugs.
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> instead of twice
[05:08] <chemicalvamp> full upgrade in adept would get the newest kernel correct?
[05:08] <fannagoganna> it would yes get the newest one
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> the newest in the repos
[05:09] <kaner_> the newest one available to you atleast.
[05:09] <fannagoganna> although you could compile your own kernel if you wanted to
[05:09] <fannagoganna> it's not as scary as you might think
[05:09] <kaner_> not normally worth it though.
[05:09] <fannagoganna> it's relatively painless -- less painful than creating a gstreamer pipeline :)
[05:09] <chemicalvamp> NOO thanks lol, did that a few times when i used gentoo.. wasnt as fun as it sounded lol
[05:09] <fannagoganna> oh gentoo :(
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> kubu's easier, believe me
[05:09] <kaner_> it would actually be easier in gentoo
[05:10] <kaner_> i would say.
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> still a pita
[05:10] <fannagoganna> most people prefer to do things other than compile their OS the whole time :)
[05:10] <kaner_> yeah i dealt with gentoo a little, but i dont like to wait for things to compile.
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> well, feisty has 2.6.20, so there's really no reason to yet
[05:10] <chemicalvamp> im sure my kernel is fine lol
[05:10] <kaner_> ubuntu seems to keep the kernals fairly up to date
[05:11] <fannagoganna> the kernel is usually the only thing in your OS that runs well :)
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> i think kernel.org is up to <IP_ADDRESS> stable
[05:11] <fannagoganna> by well, i mean flawlessly
[05:11] <fannagoganna> everything else, it's like free-as-in-clinic
[05:11] <fannagoganna> you get what you pay for
[05:11] <chemicalvamp> hitmanWilly, if i got 2.6.20 im guessing vmware wouldnt work?
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> dont see why not
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> if virtualization is enabled in the kernel, it should
[05:12] <chemicalvamp> uname -rcuz in adept the packages are kernel specific
[05:12] <chemicalvamp> oh ok
[05:12] <fannagoganna> well, also in Fedora
[05:12] <fannagoganna> for example, highmem, suspend, nvidia, etc.
[05:13] <fannagoganna> those are specific modified kernels i have seen
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> 2.6.20+ has virtualization built in so you don't need kernel mods
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> i don't think anyway
[05:14] <waxyfresh> whats the bennifit of compiling my own kernal?
[05:14] <jerry_> hj
[05:14] <jerry_> hi
[05:15] <kaner_> makes you a bigger man
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> waxyfresh, well, you can take out stuff you don't need, like support for other processors, telephony, video card modules, token ring support, etc
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> or compile modules straight in
[05:16] <kaner_> which could make it boot faster.
[05:16] <waxyfresh> does that make the computer run noticible better?
[05:16] <waxyfresh> cool
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> depends
[05:16] <waxyfresh> !kernal
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <kaner_> i dont think on a modern machine it does
[05:16] <waxyfresh> is there a how to anywhere?
[05:16] <waxyfresh> im on a old old box
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> i used to do it all the time, but i really don't see any noticeable improvement these days
[05:18] <kaner_> i this upgrade is going to finsih and my systems just going to eat it.
[05:19] <Skuller> hey guys...my friend just did a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and rebooted...his login screen has changed but its still ubuntu desktop, any help?
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> Skuller, go to sessions and select KDE
[05:20] <kaner_> there should be a button on the login screen to change your session type
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> kdm will open the last opened desktop/WM
[05:21] <Skuller> ohh
[05:21] <Skuller> thas cool
[05:21] <waxyfresh> so noone knows whats wrong with my repos?
[05:21] <Skuller> hitmanWilly: thanks
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> Skuller, np
[05:22] <philphoto> what's a good utility to monitor CPU, mobo temps and fan speeds?
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> philphoto, try conky
[05:23] <philphoto> do I have control over speeds in conky?
[05:23] <philphoto> not that I have to, it's just a nice feature
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> philphoto, not that i know of
[05:23] <philphoto> thanks
[05:26] <os2mac> is anyone having a problem with their video adapter after the dist upgrade?
[05:26] <Skuller> philphoto: glassmonitor in superkaramba shud do the trick too
[05:27] <toferrado> How do I install xwinwrap?
[05:27] <kitche> os2mac: did you get updated drivers when you dist-upgrade?
[05:27] <philphoto> I kind of like this conky from what I see.  simple.  except, how do configure the utility?
[05:27] <kitche> philphoto: by hand check out the conky website to learn more
[05:28] <os2mac> yeah but it's a weird problem...
[05:28] <philphoto> gotcha
[05:28] <os2mac> my screen after login is fine. it's the login screen that's wonky. it's set to 640x480
[05:29] <Skuller> !redmond
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about redmond - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <Skuller> !windows
[05:30] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:30] <philphoto> ha ha ha ha
[05:30] <Skuller> lol
[05:31] <Skuller> !equivalents
[05:31] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[05:32] <os2mac> Kitche: any ideas?
[05:32] <kaner_> hrm kinda scares me that there is a windows channel on freenode
[05:33] <Skuller> yea me too
[05:33] <Skuller> dint blve it first
[05:34] <Megiddo> How can I find out what version of kubuntu is installed on a machine?
[05:37] <Rade> I recently installed Dapper Drake, updated my sources.list, ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, and now adept_updater shows that I need 35 updates.  When I run the update tool it finds none.  Any suggestions?
[05:37] <kaner_> it will be in the  /etc/lsb-release file
[05:37] <Rade> I thought maybe it just needed time to poll hte server, but this was since yesterday.
[05:37] <kaner_> if nothing else
[05:38] <Rade> It says edgy
[05:38] <Megiddo> Thanks kaner_
[05:38] <Rade> Ubunto 6.100
[05:38] <kaner_> np
[05:38] <kaner_> oh i was answering Megiddo
[05:38] <Rade> err 6.10
[05:38] <Rade> sorry
[05:40] <kaner_> Rade: you could do 'apt-get upgrade', i think that pretty much does the samething
[05:40] <sayers> Good night all
[05:40] <kaner_> afaik
[05:41] <Rade> The following packages have been kept back... then a list of what looks to be 35 packages
[05:42] <kaner_> you should be fine, apt knows what its doing
[05:43] <kaner_> i once thought i was smarter than it and broke sudo and about half of kde
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> kaner_, ditto
[05:43] <Rade> What's the app/tool that plays a default sound so I can work on configuring my sound?
[05:44] <darryl_> any of you guys use nomachine for remote desktop into your kubuntu box?
[05:44] <jordan> can anyone help me figure out why my WMP54G isn't showing up in lspci?
[05:47] <darryl_> anyone do desktop sharing?
[05:48] <kaner_> must be the first upgrade that it didnt break my video drivers
[05:48] <kaner_> hot
[05:52] <zeno_> ?
[05:55] <os2mac> what is the command to auto reconfigure x11
[05:55] <os2mac> dpkg-reconfigure x11org-x11server?
[05:56] <hawk_> how do i unzip a .7z file i have downloaded 7zip
[05:56] <Skuller> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:57] <os2mac> does that do it autodetecting or does it require input?
[05:57] <hawk_> !7zip
[05:57] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[05:57] <kaner_> it autodetects if i recall.
[05:57] <philphoto> what was that other cpu, mobo, temp utility that someone mentioned other than conky?  conky is a little quirky on my desktop & I'm going to have to learn a bit (willing to) to configure it properly.  until then, I'm looking for something to monitor temps & fan speeds.
[05:58] <hawk_> ark will not open a .7z file
[05:59] <robin> hay all, can i use win32 with kubuntu 64 bit?
[06:01] <hawk_> i think you can do that as long as wine is 32
[06:01] <hawk_> but dont go on what i say
[06:02] <dwidmann> robin: mind being a bit more specific?
[06:02] <kaner_> hawk_: mine does
[06:03] <robin> wins32 codecs
[06:03] <robin> work wit hkubuntu 64
[06:04] <robin> ?
[06:04] <pollyo> Hello
[06:04] <hawk_> nvm
[06:04] <robin> been awhile maybe i am not saying it right
[06:05] <robin> windwos codecs
[06:05] <kaner_> your saying it right, you want to use win32 codecs for like mplayer
[06:05] <robin> yes
[06:06] <robin> on 64 bit cpu, just bought it lol
[06:06] <kaner_> right
[06:06] <kaner_> and it does work
[06:06] <kaner_> but i think you have to use 32 bit mplayer
[06:06] <robin> dont know lol
[06:06] <kaner_> or 32 bit whatever app your using
[06:06] <robin> just installer kubuntu 64
[06:07] <kaner_> yeah, im saying that does work, but you have to use the 32 bit version of the apps, i think.
[06:07] <sstchur> why would konqueror be (seemingly) stripping the styles out of a page?
[06:07] <robin> oh ic
[06:07] <kaner_> try it though, im not 100% on it.
[06:07] <os2mac> OK, so why is my resolution at the login screen different than my regular desktop?
[06:08] <robin> so i need to add 32 bit source to source ist?
[06:08] <dwidmann> robin: the win32 codecs will only work in 32-bit programs, which can be run on 64-bit ...
[06:08] <nonuda_> yo guys, i have shared a folder (samba), but when i try to browse it from another box it said that i don't have the permission, how do i enable it?
[06:09] <robin> ok, thx you
[06:09] <os2mac> better question what is the Fiesty beta channel called?
[06:09] <Skuller> #ubuntu+1
[06:09] <nonuda_> ubuntu+1
[06:10] <nonuda_> !install
[06:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[06:10] <dwidmann> robin: look for a thread called "WMV9 on AMD64" on uf, or you could use this, a script I wrote -> http:www.xnowherex.net/simple64
[06:13] <dwidmann> program called mplayer32 that works well ...
[06:16] <ravan> if i install kubuntu fiesty beta now, would i have to reinstall when fiesty proper is released?
[06:17] <dwidmann> ravan: only if you're a clean install fanatic, in other words, no, you don't have to
[06:17] <ravan> if apt will take care of it, will my system be in exactly the same state as it would have been had i installed feisty proper directly(apart from the home folder)
[06:17] <ravan> dwidmann: ok
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> raven: should be
[06:21] <Goontz> yeah
[06:21] <Goontz> rofl...wrong window
[06:24] <chipbuddy> hello chaps
[06:25] <Goontz> I like wearing chaps
[06:25] <chipbuddy> ass-less chaps?
[06:25] <Goontz> Of course.
[06:25] <nixternal> oh lord, how did I know that was coming
[06:25] <chipbuddy> actually... all chaps are ass-less... a college friend of mine would get annoyed whenever someone specifically mentioned the "assless" kind
[06:26] <Goontz> haha, I guess that's true...
[06:26] <chipbuddy> so question... ok for starters i'm a ubuntu user, but i like this chatroom way more than the main one
[06:27] <chipbuddy> ok so the question is, i want to get a music player... and i'm thinking it is going to be some gui one.. but should i try to use something text-based, like mplayer?
[06:27] <Goontz> Blasphemy!
[06:27] <chipbuddy> which part? the gui... or using ubuntu on a kubuntu chatroom?
[06:28] <cpk1> amarok duh
[06:28] <chemicalvamp> loaded an xgl session and crashed at the same time as a shell - konsole window pops up.. any ideas?
[06:28] <chipbuddy> or am i going to hell for both
[06:28] <cpk1> you are asking in kubuntu =P
[06:28] <dwidmann> bah, too heavyweight, you should use ogg123 :P (just kidding altogether really)
[06:28] <cpk1> chipbuddy: however there is exaile which is an amarok clone that uses gtk libs
[06:29] <Alonea> chipbuddy: if you want a small player I also use Beep Media Player along with amarok
[06:29] <waxyfresh> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=401331 can i get some help fixxing my repos?i just updated them with source-oo-matic yet there still giving me crap
[06:29] <waxyfresh> im aboute to go all chuck norris on them
[06:30] <cpk1> if you want super duber lightweight use mpd I guess
[06:30] <ComputerHermit> lol
[06:30] <cpk1> waxyfresh: super duper even
[06:30] <Alonea> waxyfresh: did you do the key commands it tells you to do in the file?
[06:30] <waxyfresh> hmmmm
[06:30] <waxyfresh> no
[06:30] <waxyfresh> brb
[06:30] <chipbuddy> alonea, how do you mean "along with"?
[06:31] <Alonea> chipbuddy: oh, I use them both. Not that they actually work together. I use beep media player's alarm clock plugin. Just saying I use both.
[06:31] <chipbuddy> ah, ok
[06:32] <Alonea> waxyfresh: yeah, there are 2 commands and then you just put in the Key number that is before each repo. If you are just using the basic source list (first 2 check boxes) then I think there is only one Key code.
[06:33] <mzanfardino_> how do I reload/remount my USB drive after it's been unmounted.  It should mount automatically, but for some reason it's not
[06:33] <Alonea> chipbuddy: but amarok is really your best bet. Its quite nice.
[06:34] <cpk1> mzanfardino_: you need to know the dev point and then just do sudo mount /dev/sd*X /media/somefolder
[06:34] <Alonea> waxyfresh: basically just follow the instructions in your sources.list file.
[06:34] <chipbuddy> Alonea, i'm using gnome, so i'd prefer something that works with it... and i've used exaile before and i really liked it
[06:35] <mzanfardino_> cpk1: hmmm... yeah, i know I could do that, but I thought there was a command that automounts that I could run manually
[06:35] <wolferine> how do I burn a movie in linux?
[06:35] <wolferine> anyone have a URL?
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> !dvd
[06:35] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:35] <cpk1> mzanfardino_: if its in your fstab then you can do mount -a
[06:35] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[06:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:36] <draik> Where can I download/find fancy fonts?
[06:36] <draik> For OpenOffice
[06:36] <wolferine> so, where those for me?
[06:36] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, yes
[06:36] <wolferine> can you please re-read my question then?
[06:37] <cpk1> wolferine: kmedia-factory should do it for you
[06:37] <draik> wolferine: Use k9copy
[06:37] <cpk1> err kmediafactory
[06:37] <wolferine> which does conversiion and burn?
[06:37] <mzanfardino_> cpk1: naw, that's not doing it.  The drive is an external USB drive that automounts (generally).  However, when I start my VM that captures the drives, they auto-dismount.  Now that I've unloaded VM I'm expecting them to auto-mount again (I thought they used to but can't be certain)... I could have sworn I saw a command that would do that, but it wasn't mount -a (which I've tried to no avail)
[06:37] <cpk1> I think it takes care of conversion too
[06:38] <wolferine> nero-ish?
[06:38] <cpk1> open it up and try it out
[06:38] <wolferine> i cannot
[06:38] <wolferine> i was looking for more a a URL about it all really
[06:39] <cpk1> kmediafactory is pretty automagically if I remember correctly, otherwise use ffmpeg to convert to ntsc or pal and then burn using k3b or kmediafactory
[06:41] <wolferine> can i use it in Gnome though
[06:41] <klemen> hi
[06:41] <mzanfardino_> maybe I'm asking this the wrong way.  If you plug in a USB device such as a memory stick or iPod, Ubuntu automatically recognizes the device and mounts it.  What's the command that can force the usb bus to search for new devices and mount them?
[06:41] <klemen> how are u?
[06:41] <cpk1> ... you can use any app in either enviroment wolferine
[06:42] <klemen> is there somebody who can tell me
[06:42] <klemen> how to
[06:42] <klemen> install xgl
[06:42] <klemen> on kubuntu
[06:42] <cpk1> i dont know, if I need to mount something thats plugged in I just mount it myself
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> !xgl
[06:42] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:42] <klemen> sorry but i am newbie on linux
[06:42] <mzanfardino_> when I run lsusb the device is not listed.. is there a usb probe command?
[06:42] <wolferine> just doesnt show up in my menu
[06:42] <draik> klemen, what are you trying to do?
[06:42] <smileboot> is there a command that prevents the rolling bar coming up during install so i can see where the install is locking up ?
[06:43] <klemen> well i want to have a xgl desktop
[06:43] <mzanfardino_> since it's not showing up in lsusb, I'm assuming I can't mount it manually either... let me try
[06:43] <klemen> that's all
[06:43] <hitmanWilly> !xgl | klemen
[06:43] <ubotu> klemen: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:43] <klemen> thanks
[06:43] <klemen> a lot
[06:43] <klemen> one more question
[06:43] <klemen> there is a problem with internet
[06:43] <klemen> so
[06:44] <klemen> when i was on windows vista or xp
[06:44] <klemen> or mac os
[06:44] <klemen> the internet was
[06:44] <klemen> 3 -4 times faster
[06:44] <klemen> why is that slow there
[06:44] <klemen> on kubuntu
[06:44] <klemen> and ubuntu to
[06:46] <waxyfresh> !pastebin
[06:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:46] <smileboot> so is there such a command?
[06:55] <chemicalvamp> whats the command to get your video cards chipset info?
[06:57] <dettoaltrimenti> is there a cd burning program on ubuntu that will automatically convert mp3s to wavs for audio cds?
[06:57] <wolferine> anyone have experience with burning a video DVD in KMediaFactory?
[07:03] <chemicalvamp> how do i turn off UMA+Sideport and use JUST Sideport?
[07:06] <chemicalvamp> *crickets cherp*
[07:07] <wolferine> anyone have experience with burning a video DVD in KMediaFactory?
[07:08] <draik> !font
[07:08] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:10] <nonuda_> !smbfs
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smbfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <hansent__> has anyone tried the dist upgrade tool for the 7.04 beta?  It doesn't seem to work on my instalation...
[07:12] <chemicalvamp> hansent__, i have... didnt work.. save yourelf some time and burn a desktop cd
[07:12] <hansent__> mphhh.....
[07:13] <wolferine> !codecs | wolferine
[07:13] <hansent__> chemicalvamp: how did you start it?
[07:13] <chemicalvamp> hansent__ the updrage tool?
[07:14] <wolferine> how about some help on codecs?
[07:14] <wolferine> the !codecs doesnt supply enough info...
[07:14] <chemicalvamp> hansent__ https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[07:14] <hansent__> chemicalvamp: yeah, it doesnt start automatically after the wizard in adept like it it supposed to.  I dont knowis now what the binary is named or if its available from a menu.
[07:14] <chemicalvamp> what kind of codec
[07:15] <chemicalvamp> hansent__ what archetecture do you have
[07:16] <wolferine> ac3, is that JUST an audio codec?
[07:16] <hansent__> chemicalvamp: x86 (32bit)
[07:18] <chemicalvamp> hansent__ and this is in your repository? deb (next field) http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/archive-edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356-i386/ (next field) /
[07:20] <wolferine> chemicalvamp>i want to go from .avi to DVD
[07:20] <wolferine> which ever codec that requires
[07:21] <chemicalvamp> what player? have you checked the players website out yet?
[07:21] <wolferine> im not playing
[07:21] <wolferine> im burning
[07:22] <pollyo> wolferine: What re you using?
[07:22] <pollyo> are
[07:22] <wolferine> KMediaFactory
[07:24] <wolferine> Stream #0.0 : Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 720x480, q=2-31, 8000 kb/s : Stream #0.1 : : Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5:1, 192 kb/s : Unsupported codec (id=86020) for input stream #0.1
[07:24] <wolferine> looks like my audio codec isnt working...
[07:29] <chemicalvamp> currently my video card is running UMA+Sideport how do i turn off UMA and only run sideport?
[07:29] <pollyo> wolferine: Does kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins have anything to do with that?
[07:30] <mp9> nejaci cesi ? :)
[07:32] <chemicalvamp> or know a good place to look?
[07:33] <twiztr> A+ Training in so long...
[07:38] <pollyo> wolferine: When you start your project does it convert the avi?
[07:46] <macky> hi
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[07:48] <j__> Weirrrrrd
[07:48] <j__> Did anyone else have trouble here with their sound being crackly in Edgy?
[07:48] <hitmanWilly> macky just got kicked from ##linux for general asshatery
[07:49] <j__> I try messing with the sound in kde but it doesn't get better..
[07:49] <j__> Ha
[07:52] <Alonea> that he did...
[07:53] <pollyo> wolferine: Wish I could have been more help.  I was able to get Kmediafactory to use an AVI.  Maybe next time I can help out.
[07:54] <pollyo> Have to run...
[07:54] <pollyo> BBL
[07:54] <Ash-Fox> This is kind of sad, this is the 3rd time I wake up to find some guy in PM (from this channel) trying to 'sex me up' because he thinks I'm femae
[07:54] <hitmanWilly> lol
[07:55] <hitmanWilly> its IRC, what do u expect?
[07:55] <Ash-Fox> I've ran many IRC networks, I expect people to behave decently.
[07:55] <hitmanWilly> yeah, one can always dream...
[07:56] <Ash-Fox> I am generally in places where people behave decently.
[07:56] <Ash-Fox> But it's kind of annoying that people are harassing people here based on their percieved gender.
[07:57] <hitmanWilly> u get idiots everywhere
[07:57] <Iwonder|too> bright guy
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> Ash-Fox: that should never happen, if that occurs again, talk to people in #ubuntu-ops
[07:59] <Alonea> I am always assumed to be male. Its fun. but people in this channel? odd...
[07:59] <Ash-Fox> Admiral_Chicago, noted.
[07:59] <sheldonc> Ash-Fox: did they actually use those words?
[07:59] <Ash-Fox> No.
[08:00] <Ash-Fox> I just tried to define it as best as I could :P
[08:00] <sheldonc> Ash-Fox: then a simple inquiry ?
[08:00] <erikja> !qt
[08:00] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[08:02] <dwidmann> Hmm, the katapult amarok plugin doesn't seem to be working at all in feisty :\
[08:06] <Ash-Fox> sheldonc, anyhow theres your answer. I'm going to get a drink.
[08:07] <twiztr> How do I install a tar.gz file?
[08:07] <twiztr> Ash-Fox: heh...
[08:08] <Ash-Fox> twiztr, tar.gz files are like a .zip file.
[08:08] <Ash-Fox> They're just archives, not installers.
[08:09] <twiztr> I mean, its the src install for a program.
[08:09] <twiztr> Meh, one second.
[08:09] <Ash-Fox> What is the name of the program?
[08:13] <twiztr> I am in the src file, and how do I make the makefile.deb
[08:13] <Ash-Fox> twiztr, What is the name of the program?
[08:16] <chemicalvamp> !paste
[08:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:16] <twiztr> Nvm, I got it to work.
[08:17] <twiztr> JohnTheRipper. I want to make sure my website isn't crackable.
[08:18] <Ash-Fox> twiztr, please, just tell me the application name. It might already be in one of the repositories thus saving you a lot of work when you need updates etc.
[08:20] <Alonea> nighty night dears. take care.
[08:21] <chemicalvamp> #beryl
[08:24] <smile> good morning ..
[08:24] <smile> how to exit X server ?
[08:25] <kumamoto> ctrl+Alt+Esc
[08:26] <smile> kumamoto: thx
[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago> ctrl + alt + backspace :)
[09:05] <posingaspopular> ohh Mez|OnAir is on again
[09:05] <posingaspopular> Mez|OnAir: play some 'gay bar' songs
[09:06] <abortd> hm
[09:06] <abortd> i wish i could broadcast music my connection sucks for uploading
[09:14] <v0taguz> What is the new in Kubuntu Feisty ?
[09:15] <posingaspopular> v0taguz: magic
[09:15] <abortd> its kubuntu feisty....
[09:15] <posingaspopular> actually im not too sure
[09:15] <posingaspopular> but im sure it works
[09:15] <abortd> what do you mean what is it?
[09:15] <abortd> its linux
[09:15] <posingaspopular> better ishould say. ive only used xubuntu feisty
[09:15] <abortd> its ubuntu
[09:15] <abortd> 7.14?
[09:16] <v0taguz> abortd: 7.04
[09:16] <v0taguz> :)
[09:16] <abortd> same deal
[09:16] <abortd> still what do you mean what is it?
[09:16] <v0taguz> I refer respect to KDE
[09:16] <abortd> ?
[09:16] <abortd> are you from portuguel?
[09:16] <posingaspopular> v0taguz: you mean KDE4
[09:16] <posingaspopular> ?
[09:17] <v0taguz> What is the new in Kubuntu respect to kDE
[09:17] <abortd> i stopped using kde
[09:17] <abortd> oh
[09:17] <gabrieldain> Is anybody having problems with the current version of Amarok?
[09:21] <ice_> gabrieldain: what kind of problems
[09:21] <ice_> ?
[09:22] <gabrieldain> Freezing and sometimes subsequent crashing, often right after starting it
[09:22] <posingaspopular> gabrieldain: you check the bugs or file a bug report?
[09:22] <gabrieldain> if I start i from a term, it says "Amarok it taking a long time to load! Perhaps something is wrong?" but no hints as to what is the problem
[09:23] <gabrieldain> No, because there is no bug, as far as I know. I cant say "It crashed" and nothing else
[09:24] <ice_> am,... I belive that there is aspecial command to lauch "heavy" graphicl apps
[09:37] <Mena> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/dists/edgy/main-edgy/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[09:38] <Mena> Why i get this when try to upgrade
[09:39] <gabrieldain> because the file listing all the packages in that repository is missing
[09:39] <Mena> so what to do
[09:40] <gabrieldain> Well, that means that repository is obsolete, so comment it out in sources.list
[09:40] <Mena> OK
[09:40] <gabrieldain> Although, I also have that repository, and I used it yesterday succesfully to install XGL/Beryl
[09:40] <gabrieldain> So I dont know what the problem is
[09:40] <gabrieldain> well, I do, but its not being consistent
[09:41] <Mena> OK
[09:45] <shookie> whats poppin guys
[09:46] <shookie> can someone help me troubleshoot this samba issue im having
[09:47] <unix_infidel> shookie: just ask your real question.
[09:47] <unix_infidel> be as specific as possible.
[09:47] <unix_infidel> include a pastebin of errors, and the chan will do what it can
[09:48] <pollyo> If I want to upgrade my system memory I have to spend more then the sytem is worth. lol
[09:55] <Mena> Thanks
[09:57] <pollyo> Is there an option like in windows to get the computers properties? CPU, Memory, etc?
[09:57] <smileboot> Hi im trying to install ubuntu or kubuntu  but everytime i try and boot from the cd or do a cd integrity check  i get to the rolling bar then it just locks up. anyone know what i can do to either 1) find out the problem or 2) fix it?
[09:59] <pollyo> smileboot: Have you tried safe video mode?
[10:02] <carve> anyone here have time to answer a question I have about kubuntu?
[10:02] <pollyo> carve: Just ask if someone has time and/or the answer they will help.
[10:06] <zouzou85> hi guys, when is kubuntu 7.-4 going to be out?
[10:06] <zouzou85> i mean the final release?
[10:06] <pollyo> zouzou85: Sometime soon it seems.
[10:07] <pollyo> zouzou85: I've heard towards the end of the month if all goes well.
[10:07] <zouzou85> there is no set date?
[10:07] <zouzou85> I just thought there was a set date,
[10:07] <pollyo> zouzou85: I've heard 19th.  Though I do not know if that is set in stone.
[10:07] <zouzou85> looking forward to it!
[10:08] <zouzou85> because there seems to be a bug in runit and git-daemon-runit in the beta version
[10:08] <pollyo> zouzou85: Have you made a bugreport?
[10:09] <zouzou85> i am not sure it is a bug.
[10:09] <zouzou85> still trying to figure out if it was just a mal-installation
[10:09] <pollyo> zouzou85: I suspect they could determine that if you made a report.
[10:10] <pollyo> zouzou85: I do not know enought about what you are saying to comment any further.
[10:10] <zouzou85> well, in fact, my fiance runs kubuntu, i use sabayon, so i haven't really had the time to check it
[10:11] <pollyo> Anyone know if there is a setting that will tell me my CPU type and speed?
[10:11] <zouzou85> i used a superkaramba theme to check it
[10:12] <carve> i'm having trouble installing WINE
[10:12] <zouzou85> how about uname -a in a terminal pollyo?
[10:12] <pollyo> zouzou85: I'm not a big fan of superkaramba I seem to get icons lost behind themes.
[10:12] <pollyo> zouzou85: I'll take a look at that command.
[10:12] <carve> it installed and I unpacked the files with ARK but how do I get the program to open
[10:13] <zouzou85> i am sure that command will give you the type of the cpu but not sure it will give you the speed
[10:13] <pollyo> carve: Wine does not have a windows desktop.
[10:14] <pollyo> carve: There is a filemanager of sorts.
[10:14] <pollyo> No speed....
[10:15] <pollyo> carve: Can't you install wine with Adept?
[10:15] <zouzou85> I am sure you can carve
[10:15] <carve> ive only been using kubuntu for a week now
[10:15] <carve> its all so new to me
[10:16] <carve> this is my first time using linux
[10:16] <zouzou85> have you used adept before?
[10:16] <pollyo> carve: I know that under K / Utilities it has wine options.
[10:16] <kumamoto> pollyo: I think #cat /proc/cpuinfo might give u some detail
[10:16] <carve> how do i get to k/utilites?
[10:16] <pollyo> carve: K <--- The K at the left bottom of your screen by default.
[10:16] <pollyo> carve: Then utilities on the list.
[10:17] <carve> ok
[10:17] <zouzou85> go to (start) then i believe it is system!
[10:17] <carve> i dont see it in utilities
[10:18] <pollyo> kumamoto: Thanks that shows it.
[10:18] <pollyo> carve: Did you install it with adept or apt-get?
[10:18] <pollyo> carve: or did you download a package?
[10:19] <carve> yeah I downloaded the package in the repository
[10:19] <carve> the  sudo apt get install wine
[10:19] <carve> then I found the files and unpacked them in ARK
[10:20] <pollyo> carve:You shouldn't have had to unark any files.
[10:20] <zouzou85> carve, just go to k>system>adept
[10:20] <carve> k
[10:20] <pollyo> carve: I believe the install option should have unarched everything.
[10:20] <pollyo> carve: And set it up.
[10:20] <pollyo> carve: Go into Adept and search for wine see if it stated the app is installed.
[10:21] <abortd> what runs games real well?
[10:21] <abortd> does wine still suck?
[10:21] <pollyo> abortd: Depends on what you want to do with it.
[10:21] <abortd> run a 3d game?
[10:21] <zouzou85> i heard activeX is not well implemented in WINE
[10:21] <pollyo> abortd: You might want to install windows itself for a game.
[10:22] <abortd> yeah well
[10:22] <wizard_> anyone know how to get knetworkmanager to not ask for wep every login? i told it to do so with kwallet but it still does
[10:22] <zouzou85> DIRECTX*
[10:22] <abortd> i dont feel you on that one
[10:22] <wizard_> and it seems to disconnect me at will
[10:22] <abortd> zouzou85, ?
[10:22] <carve> I found it
[10:22] <carve> thanks alot for the help
[10:22] <zouzou85> DIRECTX is not well implented in wine, but openGL works fine abortd
[10:23] <pollyo> carve: Wine has a data base that list some applications that work and do not work on wine.
[10:23] <abortd> can i substitute it?
[10:23] <abortd> i want to run this dungeon siege engine
[10:24] <carve> how do i look in the data base
[10:24] <abortd> you dont
[10:24] <CarinArr> i have a package that's badly broken, when i try to remove it it says i need to reinstall it first, when i try to reinstall it, it exits with errors.. what do i do
[10:24] <pollyo> carve: Load up your webbrowser and go to the wine homepage.
[10:24] <carve> ok
[10:24] <pollyo> CarinArr: Are you using adept?
[10:24] <abortd> isnt there a #winehq chan?
[10:25] <noiesmo> CarinArr, use sudo aptitude remove packagename
[10:25] <pollyo> abortd: There may be but if you are looking for what will or will not work they may direct you to the database.
[10:25] <wizard__> does anyone know why knetworkmanager would continually reset a connection?
[10:25] <CarinArr> pollyo: well adept just says it got an error.. i tried with dpkg which is where it tells me to reinstall first
[10:25] <wizard__> every few minutes the connection times out and i have to reconnect it :-(
[10:26] <pollyo> CarinArr: Have you tried aptitude?
[10:27] <CarinArr> pollyo: uhmm aptitude just interfaces with dpkg doesn't it
[10:27] <zouzou85> CarinArr, what is the name of the package?
[10:28] <pollyo> CarinArr: I am not 100% sure.
[10:28] <noiesmo> CarinArr, aptitude has better package resolution and will offer downgrades in packages to fix problems generally
[10:29] <wizard__> no one on knetworkmanager?
[10:29] <CarinArr> it's a package that's been converted from an rpm, so there won't be another version available to up/downgrade to
[10:29] <shookie> using kubuntu, i have set up a share. In windows i'm able to access the share machine via \\x.x.x.x\. However when i try to acces the shared folder \\x.x.x.x\sharefolder. It returns permission denied. I have followed three difference tutorials in ubuntuforums. And they have worked in edgy..
[10:29] <shookie> using feisty btw
[10:30] <shookie> i have used smbpasswd -L -a and -e
[10:31] <zouzou85> CarinArr, what is the name of the package? if i could know
[10:32] <CarinArr> zouzou85: awcommon, it's a licensing tool for autodesk maya.. unfortunately autodesk only distributes stuff in rpm so there won't be any support from there
[10:32] <zouzou85> I am asking cuz i have a similar problem
[10:33] <pollyo> CarinArr: Have you attempted to remove it with aptitude?
[10:33] <abortd> gnome is angering me
[10:33] <pollyo> CarinArr: To see if it gives you the same error ?
[10:33] <zouzou85> my problem is with runit, and yes i tried removing it, but it needs runit to remove it
[10:33] <zouzou85> and it needs runit to reinstall it
[10:34] <kumamoto> wizard__: I have experienced the same thing I think there is way of keeping but not sure how
[10:34] <zouzou85> so i am basically in a rut
[10:34] <CarinArr> pollyo: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:34] <CarinArr> and yes, it gives me the same message
[10:37] <Mena> By accident The upgrader tool closed
[10:37] <Mena>  is there any wrong if i made an update then an upgrade with terminal ?
[10:37] <Photon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14010/
[10:37] <Mena> Bec the upgrader tool already changed the source lst
[10:37] <Photon> ok
[10:37] <intelikey> waw!   Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/multiverse Packages
[10:37] <intelikey> Fetched 3B in 4s (1B/s)
[10:38] <Photon> i closed a file tab and i deleted the file
[10:38] <intelikey> how's that for a connection ?
[10:38] <Photon> and i am getiing this error in KDevelop
[10:38] <Photon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14010/
[10:39] <Photon> now what should i do?
[10:41] <intelikey> photon line 2   no rule to make blah.   either no Makefile in that dir or the makefile is not usable   try configuring it again.
[10:41] <pollyo> CarinArr: Is that from http://www.novedge.com/Suppo_Step3.asp?sType=2
[10:41] <Photon> ok i solved the proble
[10:41] <Photon> problem*
[10:42] <intelikey> hehhe  i just can't get over that,    "Fetched 3B in 4s (1B/s)"   ;/
[10:42] <CarinArr> pardon pollyo?
[10:43] <pollyo> CarinArr: The package you were discussing.
[10:43] <kumamoto> I wonder is kubuntu looks good with Luxi Sans font or Dejavu Sans condensed
[10:43] <CarinArr> it's from autodesk
[10:44] <CarinArr> i converted it to a .deb using alien, but it must not have converted the scripts properly, so dpkg crashed during install
[10:44] <CarinArr> or didn't crash, exited with error code
[10:44] <intelikey> kumamoto try it and see.  only you can say what "looks good" on your box.
[10:46] <kumamoto> intelikey: bet i will just trying to see anyone else use any one of them
[10:47] <Mena> kumamoto, try this font http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Lcars-Fonts?content=49050
[10:48] <Mena> fonts*
[10:49] <intelikey> font si
[10:50] <kumamoto> Mena: nice
[10:53] <intelikey> well i did install a game in wine and run it.    conclusion you need modern equipment to do that.   10 year old hardware just wont work.
[10:54] <wizard__> okay can anyone help me understand why stupid knetworkmanager loses its own connection repeatedly?
[10:55] <Jisao> Do you know what date in April will Feisty be released?
[10:55] <unix_infidel> if i use shred on a file on a usb drive is it as effective or less effective its on a non removable drive?
[10:55] <mrigns> 19th
[10:55] <intelikey> wizard*  !i   i've never used it.
[10:55] <Jisao> tx. Looking forward to see if it will be usable with my hardware (edgy is not).
[10:56] <intelikey> unix_infidel shred = more or less affective ???     syntax error in question.
[10:56] <Mena> kumamoto, yea
[10:56] <unix_infidel> intelikey: what do you mean.
[10:56] <intelikey> DESCRIPTION
[10:56] <intelikey>        Overwrite the specified FILE(s) repeatedly, in order to make it  harder
[10:56] <intelikey>        for even very expensive hardware probing to recover the data.
[10:57] <intelikey> unix_infidel that's what shred does.   i don't understand what you are asking.
[10:58] <unix_infidel> intelikey: no, i mean i have a usb flash drive and i'm using shred to "cover up my tracks"
[10:58] <unix_infidel> i'm wondering if its more or less effective on a flash drive compared to a nonremovable drive.
[10:59] <v0taguz> http://www.arrestados.com/arrestados_1_Bill_Gates.html
[10:59] <v0taguz> LOL
[11:00] <intelikey> unix_infidel  ^Ch^D<F
[11:00] <unix_infidel> intelikey: ?
[11:00] <intelikey> exactly.
[11:01] <pollyo> unix_infidel: What does shred do?
[11:01] <unix_infidel> intelikey: its 4am.
[11:01] <unix_infidel> its a simple question :)
[11:01] <adydas> owch
[11:01] <intelikey> i like simple questions.
[11:01] <adydas> Anyone reccomend software for linux <> Ipod use
[11:01] <wizard__> can anyone help me more understand why knetworkmanager 1: does not remember my wep key even when told to, and 2: disconnects me constantly.
[11:01] <intelikey> most of the time.
[11:01] <unix_infidel> pollyo:  shred  - overwrite a file to hide its contents,
[11:01] <unix_infidel>        and optionally delete it
[11:01] <intelikey> just not at 4am
[11:02] <pollyo> unix_infidel: I see.
[11:02] <unix_infidel> time for some coffee :)
[11:02] <intelikey> yeah where's genii ?
[11:02] <CarinArr> \o/ managed to remove it
[11:02] <CarinArr> though it wasn't pretty
[11:04] <intelikey> unix_infidel i think "maybe"  i see what you are asking.    is it this.   "can data be recovered more easily on flash cards as apposed to fixed disks?"      that ?
[11:06] <unix_infidel> intelikey: yea, based on the way flash drives read and write data.
[11:06] <intelikey> mmm k   short answer is  no.    over written flash drives are not more easily "recovered" when over writen.
[11:06] <unix_infidel> intelikey: thanks :)
[11:09] <intelikey> austrojedi from AUSTRIA
[11:09] <intelikey> nice nick...
[11:09] <abortd> can anyone tell me why the top cmd is lying to me?
[11:09] <intelikey> about ?
[11:10] <abortd> says i only got 48 megs of ram free
[11:10] <intelikey> abortd cause the rest is cached and buffered
[11:10] <intelikey> free -h
[11:10] <intelikey> third line.
[11:10] <abortd> should i free it?
[11:10] <abortd> i can?
[11:11] <abortd> ?
[11:11] <intelikey> free -h | head -3 | tail -1
[11:11] <abortd> ?
[11:11] <pollyo> Can a USB flash drive be used for swap memory?  Would that make a system faster?
[11:11] <intelikey> abortd sorry -m
[11:11] <intelikey> hehhe  :)
[11:12] <abortd> you have me confused
[11:12] <abortd> what the hell are you saying?
[11:12] <intelikey> pollyo not having swap would be faster...   but  to answer your Q  yes. it can be used.   you probably wont notice any differance.
[11:13] <abortd> not having swap is faster?
[11:13] <pollyo> intelikey: Yes but the cost of memory upgrade appears to be more then the value of my computer.
[11:14] <pollyo> intelikey: The crazy part is a USB flash drive with 1 gig appears to be cheap.
[11:14] <intelikey> free -m | head -3 | tail -1     <<< the first number is used the second number is free ram    in Mb
[11:14] <intelikey> pollyo how much ram do you have ?
[11:14] <pollyo> intelikey: I supose it must be slower memory in a flash drive.
[11:14] <pollyo> intelikey: 256Meg
[11:14] <tarelerulz> Do any of you now a media player that would read say somefile 00r and see the rest as movie?
[11:14] <abortd> -/+ buffers/cache:        295        461
[11:15] <intelikey> pollyo so you get into swap space how often ?
[11:15] <abortd> ?
[11:15] <intelikey> abortd so you have  461M free ram
[11:15] <pollyo> intelikey: With all the junk I have loaded on this quite often.
[11:15] <abortd> why is top lying to me?!
[11:15] <intelikey> pollyo then it might be a good deal for you... yes.
[11:15] <pollyo> intelikey: I suspect that if I offloaded some of the junk it wouldn't be so bad.
[11:16] <abortd> Mem:    774872k total,   739996k used,    34876k free,    16424k buffers
[11:16] <pollyo> intelikey: Though I think I might look at getting a $19 flash drive and see how that works out as sawp first.
[11:16] <intelikey> abortd it's not.  it's reporting the line just above what i just had you display.     free -h | head -2 | tail -1   <<<< see if that doesn't agree with top.
[11:17] <intelikey> eeeek  sorry.   not -h    -k
[11:17] <renato> hi, I am trying to copy some files into an usb key. as normal user it tells me it cannot do it as I do not have the permission to write into it, if I su and try to do chmod a+rwx it gives me no error but it does not change permission if I as root try to copy files over it gives me an error: cannot chown target directory.....what the hell?
[11:18] <intelikey> abortd     free -k | head -2 | tail -1   <<< agree with top ?
[11:18] <abortd> can i uncache stuff?
[11:18] <intelikey> the differance is the   "-/+ buffers/cache:"   ram the system has allocated but not actually used.
[11:19] <intelikey> abortd no need.  if the kernel sees something needing more ram it makes it avalable.
[11:19] <abortd> u said no swap is faster?
[11:19] <pollyo> How many writes does your average flash drive have before going bad?  Anyone know?
[11:19] <intelikey> linux is not like that other os   it uses ram in a totally different manor
[11:19] <pollyo> abortd: If you have no need for swap.
[11:20] <intelikey> abortd yes if you don't need it but the system actually uses it   then not having it would be faster.
[11:20] <abortd> i dont hink i do i have 700 some megs of ram
[11:20] <intelikey> that senerio is not likely to happen in linux  ^
[11:21] <abortd> so can i just delete it and extend the linux partition?
[11:21] <abortd> so u always need it?
[11:22] <iarwain> hi there, anyone know why i get 'failed to open control connection to wpa_supplicant' when trying to start wpa_gui in Feisty?
[11:23] <intelikey> abortd i run one box with 256M ram and no swap.   another with 96M and no swap.          most people will tell you "don't run without swap"   however some that have adamently steressed that "you must have swap" have checked and found that they didn't even have it and were not even aware of the fact....   thus   unless you normally do more than you have ram for   swap is useless.
[11:24] <abortd> do u think i would need it?
[11:24] <abortd> is there a partition tool for gnome?
[11:24] <iarwain> abortd: gparted?
[11:24] <abortd> just sudo apt-get it?
[11:24] <abortd> that the one on the live cd?
[11:25] <iarwain> abortd: what do you mean, on the live cd? (i never used a Gnome livecd ^^)
[11:25] <intelikey> abortd if you edit movies.   of do lots of large high bitrate photo editing  you might.  normal users with more than 512 will never notice that they don't have swap if you turn it off without them knowing it.
[11:25] <intelikey> of/or ^
[11:26] <intelikey> !gparted
[11:26] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[11:26] <abortd> so it makes no difference it doesnt run faster either way?
[11:26] <abortd> i got it open now
[11:26] <intelikey> abortd not unless the "swappiness is too high"   (not an issue for you)
[11:27] <iarwain> abortd: what do you mean, run faster either way?
[11:27] <abortd> so u can just turn it on and off?
[11:27] <iarwain> abortd: i didn't read all the way to your question ^^
[11:27] <intelikey> abortd yes.
[11:27] <intelikey> abortd   sudo swapoff -a
[11:27] <abortd> hah nice
[11:27] <toferrado> My USB Clone 180W audio device are not working on kubuntu. What should I do?
[11:27] <abortd> i did it with gparted
[11:28] <intelikey> !sound | toferrado
[11:28] <ubotu> toferrado: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:28] <intelikey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[11:29] <iarwain> anyone know why i get 'failed to open control connection to wpa_supplicant' when trying to start wpa_gui in Feisty?
[11:29] <abortd> lets say u have crap for ram will the swap take the rams place if lets say u use 128mb ram stick and want to run stuff that takes 512 mb the swap will cover it?
[11:29] <intelikey> abortd one can turn swap off and remove the swap partiton   then if needed at any time make a swap file on the main partition/fs
[11:30] <intelikey> abortd yes  but    slow slow slow
[11:30] <abortd> im trying to figure out why totem is taking 7% cpu and swaps it with xorg
[11:31] <intelikey> iarwain   #ubuntu+1  maybe ?
[11:31] <iarwain> intelikey: thanks, gonna look there =)
[11:32] <intelikey> !feisty
[11:32] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[11:32] <abortd> what day is the release the 7th?
[11:32] <intelikey> 24  ?
[11:32] <abortd> :/
[11:32] <intelikey> !schedule
[11:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[11:33] <intelikey> second linky
[11:35] <abortd> 19th
[11:36] <jeanmass> hello
[11:36] <jeanmass> is it possible to syn kontact and google calendar?
[11:36] <ubuntu_ian>  hi. How would i go about telling ubuntu that there are 2 identical graphics cards on the pci exprees motherboard?
[11:38] <pollyo> BBL
[11:38] <intelikey> !dualhead | ubuntu_ian
[11:38] <ubotu> ubuntu_ian: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[11:43] <ubuntu_ian> hmm lspci only lists one VGA adapter
[11:43] <intelikey> lshw
[11:44] <hendaus> somebody help me please
[11:46] <nodesert> how can i include a head file from a directory (/usr/include) in c++ code
[11:46] <hendaus> anyone knows about amule?
[11:47] <intelikey> ##C   or   ##C++   maybe ?
[11:47] <intelikey> or single hash  i don't recall.
[11:48] <intelikey> i think there is an official #C++ channel
[11:48] <nodesert> i tried  "/usr/include/sd.h" with -l parameter
[11:48] <nodesert> ok
[11:48] <nodesert> sorry
[11:48] <intelikey> not that we don't care.  just that i don't know C
[11:49] <tux> hi guys, need your help (again)
[11:50] <tux> i get the error couldnt find the mime type or something all the time in kubuntu (6.10
[11:50] <tux> )
[11:51] <user__> hi all
[11:52] <tux> does anyone know how to fix this error?
[11:54] <tux> hello?
[11:54] <tux> i get the error couldnt find the mime type or something all the time in kubuntu (6.10) how can i fix that
[11:54] <tux> ...
[11:55] <tux> anyone home here?
[11:55] <keyo> yep
[11:55] <tux> ok
[11:56] <tux> i need some help with some stupid errors in KDE
[11:56] <tux> mimetypes that cant be found
[11:56] <keyo> ok, probably can't help u but i'll try
[11:56] <keyo> so what triggers the errors
[11:57] <tux> dunno it pops up every now and then
[11:57] <tux> especially when using konqueror
[11:57] <keyo> mimetypes are icons i think
[11:58] <keyo> i'll check if they are, if so installing an icon set might fix it
[12:00] <orange1> !MAC
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <keyo> tux: a minetype is basicly defining what type of file something is
[12:00] <orange1> !mac address
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac address - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <orange1> how do i change my mac addy?
[12:01] <keyo> tux: is there a particular type of file it doesn't like
[12:05] <keyo> does anyone know how i can restart alsa
[12:05] <keyo> when i unlock my laptop from suspend or hibernate i cant get sound
[12:06] <keyo> tux: have you upgraded to the latest version of kde
[12:06] <tux> no
[12:06] <tux> but it's fixed
[12:06] <tux> removed a file octet stream in my home dir
[12:07] <tux> and the error is gone
[12:08] <keyo> i was going to sugest putting some settings in konqorer for oct stream
[12:09] <tux> :P
[12:11] <orange1> c1|freaky: ya there?
[12:12] <dikti> halloo
[12:23] <intelikey> was just reading  "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StreamlinedBoot"  last section  rc2   i understand why.  but it's the exact oppisite of what i would do.  and do on this box.     reason.  if something after 13 fails the user never knows unless someone dirrects them to the logs...      when i boot a system i want to know what gets an  [ok]   and what gets an  [error]    ...
[12:26] <unix_infidel> anyone know what it means when gpg says WARNING: Using insecure memory.
[12:27] <intelikey> ram# world readable ?
[12:27] <se7en11> my new 17 inch screen wants 1280 x 1020 but i cant change higher than 1024 x 768 in system settings ????
[12:28] <intelikey> !xorg | se7en11
[12:28] <ubotu> se7en11: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:29] <se7en11> ctrl+alt+backspace would do the same right intelikey
[12:31] <intelikey> not exactly  but generally close enough.    but that's not going to help unless you reconfigure xorg first.
[12:33] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+backspace is the  ^C  for  Xorg   while  ?dm restart does also reset Xorg  it rereads the ?dm configs as well.   i'm not sure that   ctrl+alt+backspace  will do that.    umm pretty sure it doesn't.
[12:35] <intelikey> how ever on that particular topic of intrest, there would be no change in the ?dm configs  so it's a moot point for that purpose.

[12:36] <magnus__> do kubuntu have support for 'fiber' connection ?
[12:50] <sYnie> after the last kubuntu upgrade, all my c++ programs don't work on machines with older kernels anymore. i always get a "FATAL: kernel too old". is there anyw ay to fix this?
[12:51] <sYnie> till now, all my selfcompiled small tools worked on my older servers. but now, every single recompiled program doesn't work anymore.
[12:53] <intelikey> libc6 version i suspose.   i don't have the answer to your Q though.   what did you "upgrade to?"
[12:54] <sYnie> i just dud a apt-get upgrade. but i can't remember which packages got updated
[12:54] <sYnie> did**
[12:54] <intelikey> sYnie if feisty   ask in  #ubuntu+1   you might get an answer...    else.  maybe someone in  #ubuntu   cause that question is not  kde specific.
[12:55] <sYnie> oh, okay, sorry ;-) and thanks
[12:55] <intelikey> oh don't be "sorry"    i'm sorry i can't answer.
[12:56] <intelikey> magnus__   i'm sure  FO is supported.  but i know nothing of networking..
[12:57] <intelikey> did i miss anyone else  ???
[12:57] <intelikey> if not i'll go back to reading....
[01:01] <gelsen> Hello, I have a PPPoE over ATM connection. When my internet connection drops down I have to reboot my comp, to reconnect, what can be the cause?