 This is cool (when selecting a package to update): "<packageA>: depends on <packageA> but it is not installable"
[00:07] <hggdh> I love auto-dependencies
[00:08] <BUGabundo1> hehh
[00:14] <kklimonda> hggdh: bug 300359 is a wishlist (or maybe a bug as it worked in older version?)
[00:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 300359 in transmission "Transmission does not sort correctly in details pane -> Files tab" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/300359
[00:17] <kklimonda> heh.. 6 more bugs in transmission to triage..
[00:19] <kklimonda> chrisccoulson: is my fixed debdiff for transmission enough to unmark bug as incomplete? :)
[00:19] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i think so
[00:20] <kklimonda> i think i've found all bugs that are related to this merge..
[00:21] <chrisccoulson> thanks:)
[00:25] <kklimonda> is it possible to download .torrent files for old alpha releases?
[00:25] <kklimonda> and are they still seeded?
[00:26] <hggdh> kklimonda, this may be a regression. We would have to look at the changelogs to see if it was intended
[00:28] <BUGabundo1> JSSmith: english please
[00:28] <BUGabundo1> kklimonda: AFAIK NO
[00:28] <BUGabundo1> kklimonda: alphas go away
[00:29] <kklimonda> damn, i'll have to wait for new alphas then :)
[00:29] <JSSmith> dtchen, Hello, I've a mobo Intel, with audio device Intel Corporation 82801G (IHC7 Family) and Ubuntu 9.04. My mic is Buggg.. Help me!
[00:30] <dtchen> uhhh
[00:30] <JSSmith> BUGabundo1, ok, eu não falo muito bem...
[00:30] <BUGabundo1> JSSmith: please run on teminal: $ ubuntu-bug alsa-base
[00:30] <JSSmith> BUGabundo1, a tá..
[00:30] <JSSmith> BUGabundo1, ok
[00:31] <BUGabundo1> night
[00:33] <kklimonda> hggdh: I'll ask on #transmission about it as digging though sources doesn't sound like fun ;)
[00:33] <kklimonda> through..
[00:34] <hggdh> heh
[00:37] <jeffffff> has anyone announced a fix for a 9.04 upgrade that broke wireless?
[00:38] <jeffffff> anyone?
[00:39] <dtchen> that's a bit vague. can you point to a bug report # (or set of bug reports)?
[00:39] <dtchen> (what you've done is akin to screaming "my leg hurts, make it stop!")
[00:39] <jeffffff> sure ill go get a bug #
[00:39] <jeffffff> got it
[00:45] <evanrmurphy> I've decided to take a stab at the Hug Day bug list. First thing's first, I just want to be confident I know how to assign the correct package. So I've opened up the first bug on the list (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/371266), and at first glance it seems to affect the firefox-3.0 and gdebi packages. Is it that simple? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
[00:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 371266 in ubuntu "firefox and gdebi" [Undecided,New]
[00:48] <kklimonda> evanrmurphy: hmm.. I think you could assign it to firefox.. but it sounds like an user error - maybe he has changed something in settings? We need more informations about it.. Maybe ask him to check if he can reproduce it when running firefox with new, clean profile.
[00:51] <jeffffff> this is exactly the problem I am having after the upgrade to 9.04. I've read thru this and there doesn't seem to be a real fix.
[00:51] <jeffffff> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/348204
[00:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 348204 in linux "[Jaunty] Intel wireless 3945ABG is unstable and disconnects frequently" [Undecided,New]
[00:53] <evanrmurphy> kklimonda: Thanks for replying. Can you explain how you ruled out gdebi? Does it just take some experience before these things are obvious?
[00:53] <JSSmith> dtchen, Can you help me? snd-hda-intel microphone not working in Desktop Ubuntu 9.04, with an Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02), which has the STAC92xx codec chip. The sound it's nice.
[00:54] <JSSmith> dtchen, please
[00:54] <dtchen> JSSmith: busy atm, will look in 15 minutes if you've filed a bug.
[00:55] <evanrmurphy> kklimonda: I guess I can see what you're saying, reading more closely. He says gdebi works in all other cases, so it seems more related to Firefox. Is that sort of how your thought process went?
[00:55] <JSSmith> dtchen, thanks
[00:56] <kklimonda> evanrmurphy: I'm guessing... error comes from firefox, all other .debs open just fine and gdebi when run from terminal also open this file fine..
[00:56] <kklimonda> evanrmurphy: it may be something more but it should be forwarded to ubuntu mozilla team imo..
[00:57] <evanrmurphy> kklimonda: Thanks again. :)
[00:57] <kklimonda> also I can confirm this bug..
[00:57] <dtchen> JSSmith: i.e., which bug report # did you file?
[00:59] <JSSmith> dtchen, what file?
[01:00] <dtchen> JSSmith: you were asked to use "ubuntu-bug alsa-base", which should have generated a bug report on Launchpad
[01:00] <dtchen> JSSmith: what's the bug # that was filed?
[01:01] <JSSmith> dtchen, ok
[01:01] <JSSmith> dtchen, Bug #282233
[01:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 282233 in alsa-driver "snd-hda-intel microphone not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/282233
[01:01] <evanrmurphy> kklimonda: You can confirm the Firefox/gdebi bug, or were you referring to something else?
[01:01] <kklimonda> evanrmurphy: I've confirmed this bug as I can reproduce it..
[01:02] <kklimonda> evanrmurphy: don't forget to mark this bug as done on HugDays wiki page
[01:03] <evanrmurphy> kklimonda: OK! At what stage does that happen? After the bug is confirmed, or after it's received any attention, or...
[01:04] <kklimonda> evanrmurphy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
[01:05] <kklimonda> evanrmurphy: on this page you can check what has to be done to change bug's status.
[01:05] <dtchen> JSSmith: ok, please wait a tick
[01:05] <JSSmith> dtchen, The bug # was posted by JACC. I is with the same problem, only that use Desktop Ubuntu 9.04.
[01:05] <JSSmith> dtchen, thanks
[01:09] <jeffffff> I will wait for a reply when someone has time: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/348204
[01:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 348204 in linux "[Jaunty] Intel wireless 3945ABG is unstable and disconnects frequently" [Undecided,New]
[01:09] <evanrmurphy> kklimonda: Sorry, I meant on the HugDay wiki. You said to mark the bug as done there, and I see people changing the rows to light green. Do you know when that's to be marked? After package assignation, bug confirmation, fix, etc.?
[01:15] <kklimonda> evanrmurphy: you have to either confirm a bug or request additional information and assign it to yourself.
[01:15] <hggdh> kklimonda, actually, you do not need to assign a bug being traiged to yourself -- add yourself as a subscriber instead
[01:16] <kklimonda> evanrmurphy: no, you don't even have to assign it to yourself..
[01:16] <kklimonda> hggdh: yeah, my bad
[01:16] <hggdh> an assignment is considered like a "do not touch this"
[01:16] <hggdh> kklimonda, no probs
[01:16] <hggdh> and *usually* means you are working on the *FIX*
[01:16] <evanrmurphy> hggdh, kklimonda: Thanks for clearing that up. I was starting to stress out about the assign vs. subscribe distinction.
[01:17] <hggdh> evanrmurphy, glad to help. Please do not get stressed... there are other things we should get stressed on, instead of bugs
[01:18] <kklimonda> yeah.. like more bugs ;)
[01:18] <hggdh> yes ;-)
[01:26] <evanrmurphy> kklimonda: I'm crediting you as a triager for that bug as well. Is that alright?
[01:32] <kklimonda> evanrmurphy: fine by me
[03:31] <bcurtiswx> bdmurray: whats the site for your LP greasemonkey scripts?
[03:50] <hggdh_> bcurtiswx, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gm-dev-launchpad/launchpad-gm-scripts/master/files
[03:53] <bcurtiswx> hggdh_: ty
[03:56] <kklimonda> hggdh_: about bug 300359 - it is confirmed in 1.60/1.61 and quoting a developer: "I took out the sorting because they caused gtk to go crazy for some reason when you resized the column widths.  the grip wouldn't let go when you released the mouse button, so you could never stop resizing"
[03:56] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 300359 in transmission "Unable to sort files in torrent by Progress, Download nor Priority." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/300359
[03:58] <hggdh_> kklimonda, hum
[03:58] <hggdh_> so there will not be sort anymore, or at least until the developer figures out what is wrong...
[03:59] <kklimonda> yeah, looks like it
[03:59] <hggdh_> OK. I guess we could still leave it open (wishlist), and quote the dev on that
[04:01] <hggdh_> this might have been caused by code error, either at transmission, or even at gtk; but I would expect that -- when this is figured out -- it would be put back
[04:03] <kklimonda> he said that he had removed it few gtk+ releases ago so it may be safe to put it back.
[04:04] <kklimonda> .
[04:05] <hggdh_> heh
[04:07] <kklimonda> hggdh_: if fix exists in upstream package and bug is going to be fixed when the package is merged should I confirm bug or mark it fix commited? (I've seen both versions)
[04:09] <hggdh_> kklimonda, we will have to add an upstream task ; the ubuntu task will stay triaged until we build it locally (either via sync or merge, or local patch)
[04:10] <kklimonda> i see
[04:11] <hggdh_> so if there is an upstream bug on that, we add it in; otherwise we can just say this is known upstream, and add the upstream task without linking a bug (then we manually update the upstream status)
[04:11] <kklimonda> i see..
[04:11] <kklimonda> thanks
[04:12] <hggdh_> and yes, I have seen it done both ways, but it is better to follow the guidelines (even if I personally do not agree with them here)
[04:12] <kklimonda> well, I can't triage bugs? :<
[04:12] <kklimonda> ;)
[04:12] <kklimonda> i mean set them to triaged..
[04:12] <hggdh_> :-)
[04:13] <hggdh_> you will, when you apply (and are accepted) in -control
[04:13] <kklimonda> ya, i know
[04:13] <hggdh_> meanwhile one of us in -control can do it for you
[04:13] <hggdh_> you are getting to the point where you can apply, BTW
[04:14] <hggdh_> (i.e., you will have a +1 from me)
[04:14] <kklimonda> and what about bugs like 338671 - there is still no fix but they are working on it upstream
[04:14] <kklimonda> bug 338671
[04:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 338671 in transmission "Transmission does not connect to ipv6 trackers" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/338671
[04:14] <kklimonda> is it confirmed or triaged?
[04:15] <kklimonda> hggdh_: and thanks for your support - when i get some more experience i'll apply for sure :)
[04:16] <hggdh_> it can be set to triaged, since upstream is working on it. Just document what you found, and tell me when it is ready
[04:17] <kklimonda> hmm.. document? Like the status of the bug - i.e. what are they doing about it and when will it be fixed?
[04:18] <hggdh> yes, so that later on we can read it and know what happened. Usually, the best way is to have an upstream bug opened, so that it can be tracked by both sides
[04:18] <kklimonda> hggdh: it is opened.
[04:19] <hggdh> which of the bugs?
[04:20] <kklimonda> https://launchpad.net/bugs/338671
[04:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 338671 in transmission "Transmission does not connect to ipv6 trackers" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[04:22] <hggdh> kklimonda, set to triaged/wishlist. Thanks
[04:22] <kklimonda> description of upstream bug 1731 is a bit misleading but 338671 was marked as (sort of) duplicate of 1731 in their bts (http://trac.transmissionbt.com/ticket/1998)
[04:22] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 1731 in soyuz "SourcePackageSet claims to implement ISourcePackageSet, but doesn't" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1731
[04:22] <kklimonda> heh..
[04:23] <hggdh> that's OK...
[04:24] <kklimonda> hggdh: and if the bug was fixed in mainstream but there is no bug report I should add project and set Fix released manually?
[04:25] <hggdh> for the sake of completeness, yes. This always help when a passer-by tried to find out how things are
[04:26] <hggdh> perhaps this is a bit pedantic, but ah well
[04:28] <evanrmurphy> bdmurray: Hi Brian, I just made some modifications to the stock response provided on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090514. I think this is an improvement, though I'd be happy to have a discussion if people disagree, and I certainly don't want it to seem like a rude gesture, my messing with someone's writing like that. I'm also aware that this breaches some precedents for the stock responses established in htt
[04:28] <evanrmurphy> ps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses, so either way (if any of my changes are accepted or not) some consistency should probably be reattained. Let me know what you think!
[04:29] <kklimonda> hggdh: for now bug 353774, 338671, 294151 are to be marked as "triaged"
[04:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 353774 in transmission "Remember options in filter bar" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/353774
[04:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 338671 in transmission "Transmission does not connect to ipv6 trackers" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/338671
[04:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 294151 in transmission "Add the ability to sort by estimated time of completion" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/294151
[04:29] <hggdh> kklimonda, and what about the importance?
[04:30] <kklimonda> 353774 and 294151 wishlist
[04:30] <kklimonda> 338671 probably Low
[04:31] <kklimonda> 183473 is worked upstream but fix wasn't commited to ubuntu yet so probably Triaged?
[04:32] <hggdh> triaged it is;bug 183473
[04:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 183473 in transmission "show thumbnails next to torrents" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183473
[04:33] <kklimonda> also I'd mark bug 300359 as Low as it is a cosmetic issue and it worked in some previous release. I'll add comment about why it was removed soon..
[04:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 300359 in transmission "Unable to sort files in torrent by Progress, Download nor Priority." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/300359
[04:34] <hggdh> 183473 has been reverted to triaged, thanks
[04:35] <hggdh> done
[04:35] <hggdh> wow!
[04:35] <kklimonda> thanks
[04:35] <hggdh> I *think* I got them all...
[04:36] <kklimonda> yes, looks like it - there are still 5 new, undecided bugs for transmission..
[04:36] <kklimonda> but it looks pretty nice :)
[04:36] <hggdh> but you did a lot on them already... thank you!
[04:38] <kklimonda> hggdh: I like it - it's pretty funny to triage bugs when you know something about a package you are working on :)
[04:39] <micahg> hggdh: can yo umark 371800 wishlist?
[04:39] <hggdh> bug 371800
[04:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 371800 in ubufox "Ubufox should install Adobe flash by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371800
[04:39] <micahg> oops
[04:39] <hggdh> :-)
[04:39] <micahg> :)
[04:39] <kklimonda> bug 374385 should be marked wishlist
[04:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 374385 in transmission "keep torrents in the "downloading" category for some secs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374385
[04:39] <micahg> It's my contribution to huugday
[04:40] <kklimonda> Now all I have to do is forward them all to upstream T_T
[04:40] <kklimonda> ;)
[04:41] <hggdh> micahg, what should be the status of the bug?
[04:41] <micahg> Traiged?
[04:41] <hggdh> and there might be some licence issues with installing the plugins by default (since they are proprietary)
[04:42] <micahg> ah
[04:42] <micahg> well
[04:42] <micahg> it's a wishlist
[04:42] <hggdh> yes
[04:42] <hggdh> done
[04:42] <micahg> thanks
[04:42] <micahg> now
[04:42] <hggdh> welcome. Thank you for helping...
[04:42] <hggdh> now?
[04:42] <micahg> should I give you hugday credit?
[04:43] <hggdh> no, you get it
[04:43] <hggdh> *you* did the work
[04:43] <micahg> I'm going to try the command line tool
[04:43] <hggdh> it is simpler than going and editing it by hand
[04:44] <micahg> if I can figure it out :)
[04:44] <kklimonda> hggdh: bug 374385 - please, mark it as a wishlist and I'm done with transmission for now :)
[04:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 374385 in transmission "keep torrents in the "downloading" category for some secs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374385
[04:46] <kklimonda> hggdh: and thanks for you assistance :)
[04:46] <hggdh> kklimonda, my pleasure
[04:46] <hggdh> and it is done, BTW
[04:46] <micahg> hggdh: it worked (the cli)
[04:47] <micahg> I feel like an evil genius
[04:47] <kklimonda> 13 wishlist bugs.. upstream developers are going to hug me to death ;)
[04:47] <hggdh> LOL
[04:47] <kklimonda> ah, only 5 are to be forwarded
[04:47] <kklimonda> I'll live..
[04:48] <hggdh> and the hugday is just starting...
[04:48] <hggdh> (well, it officially started some 4 hours ago, UTC-wise)
[04:49] <micahg> hggdh: hugday isn't till thursday
[04:49] <micahg> a comment was made earlier today that there's no reason not to start early
[04:49] <micahg> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090514
[04:49] <hggdh> oh, yes, sorry, forgot (1) when it was; (2) what day was today
[04:49] <micahg> !hugday
[04:49] <ubot4> Factoid 'hugday' not found
[04:50] <hggdh> thanks micahg
[04:50] <micahg> the bot doesn't know when it is either :)
[04:50] <hggdh> LOL
[05:00] <micahg> hggdh: what do I do for something for bug 308437
[05:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 308437 in firefox-3.0 "browser/mail crash on mouse click after update to 8.10 - glibc/memory problem ?" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/308437
[05:02] <hggdh> hum
[05:02] <hggdh> I think we could close it (no real hard data to work on...) and state that if it happens again, to please reopen
[05:03] <kklimonda> *nods*
[05:03] <micahg> Can I suggest using a Desktop CD to test a new release?
[05:03] <hggdh> yes, the live CD -- if the reporter is willing to do it
[05:03] <micahg> kklimonda: was that nod for me?
[05:04] <kklimonda> micahg: I afree with hggdh that without any real data (valgrind logs, tracebacks) there is no way of working on this bug..
[05:05] <kklimonda> hggdh: Can he submit traceback if he crashes those applications using live cd?
[05:05] <kklimonda> hggdh: It would probably be markes as outdated by apport retrace...
[05:05] <hggdh> I doubt, because there will be no symbols installed -- so the BTs will be unusable
[05:05] <kklimonda> well, maybe it was fixed :)
[05:05] <micahg> Is this the right link for the live media?
[05:05] <micahg> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/release/
[05:06] <hggdh> yes
[05:07] <micahg> Did Ubuntu just start with live DVDs?
[05:07] <micahg> are there no longer Live CDs?
[05:07] <kklimonda> hggdh: shouldn't apport retrace try to retrace bug with symbols? But as I said packages are outdated so it would be probably marked as invalid..
[05:07] <micahg> oops
[05:07] <kklimonda> live dvds?
[05:08] <hggdh> micahg, this link is for the DVDs, the first line gives the link for the CDs
[05:08] <micahg> Ah
[05:08] <micahg> oops
[05:08] <micahg> well
[05:08] <hggdh> kklimonda, no, apport just collects the data (and the coredump) and uploads it. backtracing is done at the backstage canonical/ubuntu servers
[05:08] <micahg> the Live DVD will probably have a better chance of compatability, right?
[05:09] <hggdh> kklimonda, oh, apport-retrace will do it, but if you are running a liveCD you are probably already outdated... also there might be problems in disk space (the live CD does not install anything)
[05:10] <hggdh> micahg, the live DVD pretty much has all of Ubuntu, no need to download other packages
[05:10] <hggdh> the live CD has the most common packages
[05:12] <micahg> hggdh: right, so if someone needs a special driver, it'll probably be in teh live DVD, right?
[05:19] <micahg> hggdh: is bug 298303 enough of a test case?
[05:19] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 298303 in firefox-3.0 "Full storage unit glitched download service" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/298303
[05:23] <hggdh> it is an interesting scenario
[05:24] <hggdh> this should have happened elsewhere already -- try searching for a duplicate
[05:24] <micahg> I"m trying
[05:24] <hggdh> but I would like to have more data on that. It does sound plausible, but we cannot yet confirm it
[05:25] <micahg> I know, I'll look upstream
[05:26] <micahg> hggdh: is this ok upstream?
[05:26] <micahg> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489737
[05:26] <ubot4> Mozilla bug 489737 in General "can not cancel a download when disk full." [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[05:28] <hggdh> oh yes!
[05:28] <micahg> this one also
[05:28] <micahg> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471067
[05:28] <ubot4> Mozilla bug 471067 in Download Manager "download manager non-responsive after "disk is full" error message" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[05:29] <hggdh> yes, both of them match. I would go with the older one
[05:29] <micahg> Can I not link both?
[05:29] <hggdh> micahg, if you can, please add a comment upstream giving the link to the LP bug
[05:30] <hggdh> no, you cannot link both (and it does not make sense, anyway)
[05:30] <micahg> I'm embarrased to say that I don't have a bugzilla account yet :(
[05:30] <micahg> I'll make one now
[05:30] <hggdh> but you can comment in our bug about both
[05:31] <micahg> ok
[05:31] <hggdh> I do not know what are the procedures on mozilla, but it does look like the new is a duplicate of the old bug
[05:32] <micahg> so, it's triaged now?
[05:32] <hggdh> yes!
[05:32] <micahg> I'm working on the text
[05:33] <micahg> should I update the desription with the second bug find?
[05:33] <micahg> or comment?
[05:34] <hggdh> micahg, did you get the mozilla account set? If so, do not forget to add there a link to our bug, and a link to the other bugzilla bug that is a duplicate
[05:34] <micahg> I will after I take care of the one in our tracker
[05:35] <micahg> regarding teh dupe upstream, is that a description update or a comment?
[05:35] <hggdh> ideally, every major change we make in a bug we should document -- what was done, and *why* it was done
[05:35] <hggdh> a comment
[05:35] <micahg> should I preface it with Developer's Note
[05:35] <micahg> so the submitter doesn't worry?
[05:35] <hggdh> I am sorry, I do not follow you
[05:36] <micahg> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/170232/
[05:40] <hggdh> I would not say "developer's note" -- you are not a ffox developer, and it sounds like one... just do the note as you yourself
[05:40] <micahg> Triager's note?
[05:40] <micahg> Note:
[05:40] <micahg> ?
[05:41] <hggdh> just state you found the bugs upstream -- they are already under your user, so no need
[05:41]  * hggdh is used to work this way
[05:41] <micahg> done
[05:43] <micahg> hggdh: what do I say to upstream about the bug?
[05:44] <hggdh> add a comment stating "original ubuntu bug <link>", and that you also foung mozilla bug xxxx on that
[05:44] <hggdh> ideally, every bug we find upstream (and link downstream) we should add a reference to our bug
[05:45] <hggdh> so we get to have a double-linked relationship
[05:45] <micahg> Do I need to fix the title on our bug?
[05:46] <hggdh> if you consider the title not to correctly identify the issue, yes, certainly you should
[05:47] <micahg> done
[05:47] <micahg> I feel like I did a lot tonight
[05:47] <micahg> :)
[05:47] <micahg> should I mark it master as well since i have the upstream?
[05:47] <hggdh> you did do a lot...
[05:48] <hggdh> no, not really -- there are not enough duplicates to warrant it being a master
[05:48] <micahg> ok
[05:51] <hggdh> ok. I have been here long enough...
[05:51] <hggdh> see you all tomorrow
[05:53] <micahg> good night hggdh
[05:53] <hggdh> good night micahg
[06:28] <kklimonda> is there a won't fix status that members of ubuntu bug control can assign to a bug?
[06:28] <micahg> yes
[06:28] <micahg> kklimonda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
[06:29] <kklimonda> then I'd like to have bug 291207 set as won't fix
[06:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 291207 in transmission "Missing apply-button in the webui configuration tab." [Wishlist,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291207
[06:30] <micahg> kklimonda: are you the developer upstream?
[06:31] <micahg> ah, I see
[06:31] <micahg> upstream rejected it
[06:31] <kklimonda> yeah
[06:32] <micahg> someone else would have to do it
[06:32] <micahg> I don't have permission yet
[07:30] <Madpilot> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubunet/+bug/375272
[07:30] <ubot4> Madpilot: Error: This bug is private
[07:30] <Madpilot> thank you, bot, for pointing out the problem with it
[07:31] <Madpilot> anyone able to tell me why it's private? my brother filed it, sez he didn't mark it as security or anything
[07:35] <dholbach> good morning
[07:36] <thekorn> hi dholbach
[07:37] <dholbach> hiya thekorn
[07:38] <thekorn> Madpilot, all new bugreports for the ubunet project are automatically marked as private
[07:39] <thekorn> Madpilot, no idea why, easiest way to get it visible for public is to ask your brother to remove the private flag
[08:07] <Maelvon> hi bugsquad!
[08:08] <Maelvon> I want to report a bug from a ubuntu server, how?
[08:09] <Flannel> !bugs | Maelvon
[08:09] <ubot4> Maelvon: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[08:09] <Maelvon> with ubuntu-bug, it seems it opens a web page, but on a server no X
[08:10] <Maelvon> thanks, i'll try launchpad...
[08:23] <evanrmurphy> I've been working on this bug report (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/371288). It was missing the affected package field, so I did that (hope it's correct), but I'm unsure of the next step. The report seems pretty thorough, containing all the important information. I haven't found a duplicate yet. Any suggestions?
[08:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 371288 in xorg "X crashes after starting video" [Undecided,New]
[09:02] <evanrmurphy> FYI, I'm going to classify the report as Confirmed, even though I haven't reproduced it myself. I think it's a solid report.
[12:35] <askand> What  dbgsymbols do I need to get a backtrace for firefox? Installed for firefox and xulrunner
[12:40] <mnemo> askand: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs#Crashes
[12:44] <askand> mnemo: thanks but there is a lot of packages mentioned there that are not in the repos, including firefox and xulrunner debugpackages
[14:44] <kklimonda> would someone from bug control mark bug 183501 as triaged?
[14:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 183501 in transmission "some way to tell finished torrents from unfinished ones" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183501
[14:45] <pedro_> kklimonda: done
[14:46] <kklimonda> thanks pedro_
[14:46] <pedro_> you're welcome
[15:18] <bddebian> Boo
[15:18] <hggdh> kklimonda, will any transmission bug be left over, or are you pretty much done with all? ;-)
[15:20] <kklimonda> hggdh: there are still 3 more bugs I have to check :)
[15:23] <kklimonda> Probably I'll be able to move bug 346714 one way or another - I'll have to re-read it.. :)
[15:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 346714 in transmission "transmission downloads files I've unselected in the torrent" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/346714
[15:30] <kklimonda> hggdh: I think you can mark ^^^^ as triaged.. they are working on a fix of some sorts - It is impossible not to download part of files because of the way bittorrent protocol works - so instead they are going to move downloaded parts of unwanted files to some sort of cache that doesn't show up in file browser. But I think it will take them a while - bug was created over a year ago ;)
[15:32] <kklimonda> and a wishlist
[15:37] <kklimonda> hggdh: bug 374013 triaged/low
[15:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 374013 in transmission "Maximum peers can't be limited in Transmission" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374013
[15:38] <kklimonda> and btw hey :)
[15:54] <hggdh> doing it now, kklimonda
[15:55] <kklimonda> damn, it sounds like a pretty cool thing: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DebuginfoFS :)
[15:56] <hggdh> kklimonda, done
[15:56] <kklimonda> hggdh: thanks
[15:56] <hggdh> kklimonda, yes indeed would be nice...
[15:59] <hggdh> but there is a potential issue with scaling: it will work for one/two/twenty users, but what about hundreds?
[16:50] <andresmujica1> hey ya!
[16:51] <andresmujica1> don't forget our meeting in about 10 minutes...
[16:51] <andresmujica1> at #ubuntu-meeting
[16:55] <hggdh> andresmujica1, thanks for the reminder
[16:55] <andresmujica1> hggdh: sure!! :-D
[17:12] <kklimonda> hggdh: I was going to ask you - there is a "Won't fix" status for bugs? If so could you set bug 291207 as a such?
[17:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 291207 in transmission "Missing apply-button in the webui configuration tab." [Wishlist,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291207
[17:13] <hggdh> kklimonda, yes, there is a wontfix. Will do it
[17:14] <kklimonda> thanks
[17:41] <hggdh> kklimonda, done. Sorry for the delay
[17:59] <pace_t_zulu> hello
[18:00] <hggdh> andresmujica1, good work, sir
[18:00] <hggdh> yo pace_t_zulu
[18:00] <andresmujica1> that was hard...
[18:00] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh: less formal in here..
[18:00] <andresmujica1> i believe i missed a lot of IDEAS and a lot of ACTIONS...
[18:00] <hggdh> LOL it is always hard
[18:01] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh: so I think I should get a mentor so I can be more helpful with triaging...
[18:01] <hggdh> yes, but this was the first one, so we learn from it
[18:01] <andresmujica1> yeap
[18:01] <andresmujica1> :)
[18:01] <charlie-tca> gets better with experience, andre_______
[18:01] <hggdh> pace_t_zulu, anyone here can mentor you...
[18:01] <charlie-tca> andresmujica1
[18:01] <andresmujica1> :)
[18:01] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh: would you mind being my mentor?
[18:01] <showard_> what's the difference between the qa meeting and bugsquad meeting
[18:02] <hggdh> the qa deals with all of quality assurance (including triaging). But triaging usually does not get time there
[18:02] <hggdh> showard_, ^^
[18:02] <showard_> ok, thanks
[18:03] <andresmujica1> ok, so i'm gonna summarize at the wiki and ML, so we can streamline the topics for the next meeting a litle bit better, right?
[18:03] <hggdh> so. andresmujica1, what gives with the LP thingy?
[18:03] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh: could you recommend a mentor?
[18:03] <hggdh> andresmujica1, yes, please do that. You can follow the other meeting reports
[18:03] <andresmujica1> the LP improvements, i don't really now bcurtiswx was the one who proposed it, but sure there're a lot of things needed...
[18:04] <hggdh> pace_t_zulu, I cannot recommend anybody else (it would not be fair). But any of us here can help
[18:04] <pace_t_zulu> is anyone here willing to be my mentor?
[18:04] <hggdh> andresmujica1, OK, we wait for bcurtiswx, and then pester him
[18:04] <andresmujica1> :)
[18:04] <andresmujica1> ok,
[18:04] <hggdh> pace_t_zulu, I am willing to help you :-)
[18:05] <andresmujica1> i'm gonna write the report and update wiki page.
[18:05] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh: so you'd be my mentor then
[18:05] <hggdh> thanks, andresmujica1
[18:05] <showard_> thank you andres
[18:05] <andresmujica1> thanks to all for attending,
[18:05] <hggdh> :-)
[18:05] <azimout> pace_t_zulu: i suggest you just ask any questions you have in this channel, you will have a wider audience and more immediate responses than asking a single person by email
[18:05] <hggdh> pace_t_zulu, keep in mind that most of the questions are asked here -- this would help any others wit doubts
[18:06] <hggdh> heh. Again, I am a slow typer
[18:06] <pace_t_zulu> azimout: i am looking for someone to help with my efficacy as a bug triager
[18:06] <azimout> so, are we suggesting lp improvements?
[18:06] <hggdh> azimout, non, the person that raised the issue is not here, so we do not know what it is about
[18:07] <hggdh> pace_t_zulu, shoot
[18:07] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh: what is some "low hanging fruit" i can go after
[18:07] <azimout> pace_t_zulu, try to read anything you can on the wiki
[18:07] <azimout> I also keep a collection of useful links for myself (and others) here: http://azitech.wordpress.com/bugs/
[18:08] <pedro_> btw if you're looking for low hanging fruit , you might be interested on the target for the hug day
[18:08] <azimout> +1 pedro_
[18:08] <hggdh> pace_t_zulu, yes. Then you *have* to seach LP for bugs you feel less unconfortable with. There are no real "low hanging" things, because it depends on what is the issue
[18:08] <pace_t_zulu> roger
[18:08] <hggdh> as usual pedro_ is straight on the target
[18:09] <pedro_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090514 <- there's quite a lot of bugs to triage and assigning bugs to a right package is one of the easier tasks to do if you're starting with bug triage
[18:09] <pace_t_zulu> so is it helpful for me to nominate bugs for certain releases?
[18:09] <hggdh> pace_t_zulu, nomination is an open action (i.e., anyone can do it). But not all bugs would profit from that
[18:10] <hggdh> the fix may have been provided on a newer release, and we do not bump released on a relase
[18:10] <andresmujica1> anyone of you works with perl?
[18:10] <hggdh> the fix *may* be rebased to a previous release, though
[18:11] <hggdh> andresmujica1, sometimes I do, but it is mostly hacks
[18:11] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh, azimout, and pedro_: thank you for the guidance
[18:11] <showard_> what exactly does nominating for release do? I've never used it
[18:11] <hggdh> pace_t_zulu, nomination should be reserved for serious impacting bugs
[18:12] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh: so what would be helpful? adding the "Stock" response?
[18:12] <hggdh> showard_, you are asking the fix for the bug to be made available on another release than the one fixed
[18:12] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh: trying to replicate the bug on my system?
[18:12] <hggdh> pace_t_zulu, trying to replicate is always the best action we can do (not always possible, though, see X for an example)
[18:13] <hggdh> showard_, which is something that requires a LOT of care and testing
[18:14] <hggdh> but -- pace_t_zulu the hugday target is as near to low hanging as possible. Start there now, no need to wait for the hugday
[18:14] <hggdh> and ask here when in doubt
[18:14] <andresmujica1> me too, mostly hacks..
[18:16] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh: i am going through the UbuntuBugDay list and replying to reports there for now
[18:19] <kklimonda> hggdh: when can be a bug marked off the HugDay list? Does assigning it to the right package is enough or Do I have to ask for more informations or confirm it?
[18:19] <kklimonda> hggdh: you are very popular here for some reason ;}
[18:20] <pace_t_zulu> kklimonda: because he is so frequently around to answer questions
[18:21] <pace_t_zulu> is anyone else experiencing serious latency with LP?
[18:22] <hggdh> kklimonda, whenever you act on the bug -- asking for more data, marking it confirmed, etc
[18:23] <hggdh> whenever I am idling... I can answer
[18:29] <kklimonda> hmm.. i can't add link to python bts to bug report?
[18:30] <kklimonda> bug 371720 and upstream bts link is http://bugs.python.org/issue3872
[18:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 371720 in python2.6 "python-tkinter-tix program has unknown color error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371720
[18:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 371720 in python2.6 "python-tkinter-tix program has unknown color error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371720
[18:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 371720 in python2.6 "python-tkinter-tix program has unknown color error" [Undecided,New]
[18:30] <ror> mmm the bots liked that one :)
[18:30] <kklimonda> heh
[18:31] <charlie-tca> lol
[18:31]  * charlie-tca thinks about trying to get bots to work, half the time
[18:33] <Pici> I'll have the bot removed, but that will work for now.
[18:35] <jussi01> ubottu: part
[18:40] <kklimonda> hggdh:  bug 371720 should be Low priority I think.. It was supposed to be fixed in upstream Python 2.6.2c1 release but for some reason I still can reproduce it now.. Maybe something is wrong with our python2.6?
[18:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 371720 in python2.6 "python-tkinter-tix program has unknown color error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371720
[18:41] <kklimonda> hmm.. maybe even Medium ?
[18:43] <hggdh> kklimonda, was this fix put available for us
[18:43] <hggdh> ?
[18:44] <kklimonda> hggdh: according to last comment fix was released in python 2.6.2c1 which ir release candidate of 2.6.2
[18:44] <kklimonda> we have 2.6.2 so it should work
[18:44] <pace_t_zulu> i found an interesting bug launchpad #373111
[18:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 373111 in ubuntu "Keyboard 'Custom Shortcut' for terminal does not retain environment" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/373111
[18:45] <pace_t_zulu> it only occurs with a "Custom Shortcut" not the predefined "Desktop" > "Run a terminal" shortcut
[18:46] <kklimonda> hggdh: user in http://bugs.python.org/issue3970 suggests that "Tix seems really broken with tcl8.5..."
[18:47] <kklimonda> hggdh: according to http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=192737 tix 8.4.3 fixes this issue - I'll try to rebuild it and see if it helps
[18:49] <pace_t_zulu> could someone please confirm launchpad bug #371789 ? As the reporter of the bug i feel as if it would be inappropriate for me to confirm it
[18:49] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 371789 in python-scipy "[Jaunty]python-scipy install SyntaxWarning" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371789
[18:51] <hggdh> kklimonda, please update the bug accordingly -- this will help others
[18:53] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh or kklimonda could either of you please confirm launchpad bug #371789 ? As the reporter of the bug i feel as if it would be inappropriate for me to confirm it
[18:53] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 371789 in python-scipy "[Jaunty]python-scipy install SyntaxWarning" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371789
[18:54] <hggdh> pace_t_zulu, done
[18:55] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh: thank you
[18:55] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh: perhaps you would be able to add something to launchpad #373111
[18:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 373111 in ubuntu "Keyboard 'Custom Shortcut' for terminal does not retain environment" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/373111
[18:56] <hggdh> pace_t_zulu, now, re. 371789 -- this is probably a low-hanging one for you to keep on and check upstream to see if it has been already reported (and, perhaps, fixed); if not, to report it and add the upstream bug into ours
[18:57] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh: upstream as in Debian?
[18:58] <hggdh> either debian, or the real upstream (which I do not know where it is)
[19:00] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh: i'm on it... if it isn't reported at debian, should i bother them with it?
[19:01] <hggdh> it depends on from where we get it. If we get -scipy from debian, then yes, we should open there (helps them); if not, just the real upstream
[19:01] <hggdh> pace_t_zulu, I cannot confirm or deny the shortcut one -- my gnome is a bit zonked right now
[19:02] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh: i was able to confirm it... i was wondering if you'd know what package to assign it to
[19:05] <hggdh> pace_t_zulu, ah, sorry, gnome-control-center
[19:05] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh: i'll take care of it if you don't mind
[19:05] <hggdh> k
[19:06] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh: do you know who that would be assigned to?
[19:06] <hggdh> nobody. We do not assign bugs
[19:06] <hggdh> oops
[19:07] <hggdh> gnome-control-center (and all of desktop) is assigned to desktop-bugs
[19:07] <hggdh> sorry
[19:07] <pace_t_zulu> roger
[19:08] <hggdh> brb
[19:25] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh: i reported both Launchpad # 371789 and Launchpad # 335646 upstream
[19:26] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh: what is CVE?
[19:27] <mnemo> CVE is a way to track security problems in software
[19:27] <mnemo> even though everyone has different bug numbers etc there is usually just one CVE issued
[19:28] <hggdh> !CVE
[19:28] <ubot4> Factoid 'CVE' not found
[19:28] <hggdh> ugh!
[19:29] <sbeattie> http://cve.mitre.org/
[19:30] <pace_t_zulu> sbeattie and hggdh: thank you
[19:31] <pace_t_zulu> mnemo: thank you
[20:27] <Strider^> hello
[20:27] <Strider^> when marking a bug as duplicate, should i also set the bug as confirmed ?
[20:28] <kklimonda> anyone can help me? I'd like to set a link to a debian bts but i get a following info: "Please select the appropriate upstream project. This step can be avoided by updating the packaging information for ircd-hybrid (Ubuntu)."
[20:28] <kklimonda> what upstream project should I select? debian?
[20:28] <charlie-tca> Strider^: set it invalid
[20:29] <charlie-tca> kklimonda: anything with (ubuntu) is not upstream, it is in ubuntu
[20:29] <Strider^> ok charlie-tca
[20:29] <charlie-tca> what is the bug number on launchpad
[20:29] <charlie-tca> ?
[20:29] <kklimonda> bug 375619
[20:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 375619 in ircd-hybrid "ircd-hybrid conflicts with inspircd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/375619
[20:30] <kklimonda> and debian bug is http://bugs.debian.org/511611
[20:30] <charlie-tca> So there is no upstream project for ircd-hybrid yet.
[20:31] <charlie-tca> You can add one, or I can.
[20:31] <kklimonda> charlie-tca: hmm.. it works this way? i see..
[20:32] <kklimonda> charlie-tca: if you can point me to some docs I'd try to add it :)
[20:32] <charlie-tca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Watches#Watching%20Another%20Project
[20:33] <charlie-tca> It gets a little complicated at times. You should be able to add "ircd-hybrid" as the source package for upstream
[20:33] <charlie-tca> They call it project
[20:34] <kklimonda> hmm.. I think it was a mistake on my side - there is a button also affect distribution next to it..
[20:34] <charlie-tca> No, shouldn't be distribution, it should go against a project
[20:34] <kklimonda> but this is a problem with package and not with project itself.
[20:35] <charlie-tca> distribution is another OS, project is a package within ubuntu that is maintained upstream
[20:35] <charlie-tca> The package is not a separate Operating System?
[20:36] <kklimonda> hmm? I think you lost me :)
[20:36] <charlie-tca> Debian, Fedora, RedHat are distributions.
[20:36] <kklimonda> yes
[20:36] <charlie-tca> They are operating systems that stand on their own
[20:36] <kklimonda> and this bug is in debian package
[20:37] <charlie-tca> Projects are source packages that we import to ubuntu from other sources, they can not be installed the way Debian, Fedora, and RedHat can be
[20:37] <charlie-tca> You need ubuntu installed to use the package, then it is a project
[20:37] <charlie-tca> I can install Debian instead of Ubuntu, it is a distribution
[20:38] <kklimonda> charlie-tca: let's rewind - 375619 was also reported in debian bts - I wanted to link to bts report so there is some kind of connection between those two reports.
[20:39] <charlie-tca> Then you simply add a project to the existing bug.
[20:44] <bdmurray> also affects distribution not project
[20:46] <bdmurray> kklimonda: see further https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Watches
[20:47] <kklimonda> bdmurray: thanks, i've already found it. :)
[20:47] <bdmurray> outstanding!
[20:52] <jcastro> kklimonda: "also affects distribution" would be where you link debian bugs, if it was a bug in upstream itself and you had a report you would do "also affects" and then add the project
[20:53] <jcastro> and then you would link to the ircd-hybrid bug tracker
[20:53] <jcastro> but sometimes you have to add the tracker if it's not in lp already
[20:54] <jcastro> or launchpad will ask you to fill in something like a series or some other thing.
[21:06] <BUGabundo> guud evening
[21:07] <kklimonda> hey BUGabundo
[21:10] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: hey
[21:12] <kklimonda> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubunet/+bug/375345 - here we go, it looks like it may be a really nice flame war :)
[21:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 375345 in ubunet ""Ubuntu One" name infringes on Ubuntu trademark policy and creates confusion" [Undecided,New]
[22:09]  * hggdh sits down to watch
[22:10] <BUGabundo> hggdh: what's playing?
[22:10] <hggdh> the bug kklimonda found on trademark issues
[22:10] <BUGabundo> ahh bug one U1
[22:10] <BUGabundo> what? now that I finally have access to it?
[22:10] <BUGabundo> grr
[22:10] <BUGabundo> eh
[22:55] <ror> nice spot kklimonda, wait til that gets's all over slashdot ;o
[22:57] <BUGabundo> still haven read it
[22:57] <BUGabundo> I'm realy that busy
[22:58] <kklimonda> you are? :)
[22:58] <BUGabundo> I am
[22:58] <BUGabundo> beeing offline, make my backlog huge
[22:58] <kklimonda> hehe
[22:58] <BUGabundo> 30 emails on my main inbox
[22:58] <BUGabundo> not counting other accounts
[22:59] <BUGabundo> just manage to triage them, and put IM backlog to zero
[22:59] <BUGabundo> now trying to kill open webpages, including your bug
[23:01] <kklimonda> sounds like fun :)
[23:01] <BUGabundo> really?
[23:02] <BUGabundo> not for me... can't even watch bones, or repair my GPS
[23:02]  * BUGabundo is going ot again aint I ?
[23:02] <kklimonda> maybe a little :}
[23:03] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: check my last dent :)
[23:22] <bdrung> seb128: ping
[23:22] <seb128> contextless ping warning
[23:23] <bdrung> seb128: i saw your comment on bug #230873
[23:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 230873 in easytag "[karmic] Doesn't load the choosen directory when opening easytag with "open with ..." nautilus right click menu" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/230873
[23:23] <seb128> yes?
[23:24] <BUGabundo> seb128: you love pings don't you?
[23:24] <bdrung> i want to mention that i prepared a new upstream version and uploaded it to mentors.debian.net. so if you work on the package please have a look at this.
[23:24] <BUGabundo> seb128: ill buy you a *pingo* when you come to Portugal
[23:25] <seb128> bdrung: way to go, don't contact the maintainer but upload to a mentor website ...
[23:25] <seb128> bdrung: thanks for the notice, I don't know how to use mentors.debian.net though I will probably not look at it but if it's in the bts I will have a look
[23:27] <bdrung> seb128: here is a link to the dsc file: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/e/easytag/easytag_2.1.6-0.1.dsc
[23:27] <seb128> bdrung: ok
[23:27] <seb128> bdrung: any reason you didn't open a classic bug in the bts?
[23:27] <seb128> thanks for the work but that's an highlight inefficient way to work
[23:28] <bdrung> seb128: when someone uploads a file to mentors a mail is send to the maintainer.
[23:28] <seb128> no it's not
[23:28] <bdrung> seb128: the bug report was already opened (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=490979)
[23:28] <ubot4> Debian bug 490979 in easytag "easytag: New version 2.1.6 with various bugfixes available" [Wishlist,Open]
[23:28] <bdrung> seb128: next time i will use the bts.
[23:29] <seb128> bdrung: I know about the bug but there is no clue than somebody did work there
[23:29] <seb128> bdrung: thanks
[23:29] <seb128> bdrung: you could perhaps comment on the bug for the record?
[23:29] <bdrung> seb128: ok
[23:29] <seb128> thanks
[23:39] <bdrung> seb128: done
[23:39] <seb128> ok


[08:05] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:16] <themusicgod1> last night I noticed a pure white screen came up while I was working.  Alt-fn'd to terminal...process "Web Content" was using near 100% cpu.  Killed it, alt-fn'd back to gnome, issue went away.  This happened maybe 2-3 times over a few hours.  Finally, it happened again, but when I went to alt-fn to terminal...white screen stayed
[09:17] <themusicgod1> ...unfortunately it stayed even after reboot.  Now acer travelmate x483-6691 won't post (or at least the video won't initialize on POST)
[09:17] <themusicgod1> I couldn't get it to display on external monitor, but notice that the keyboard keys that control backlight do continue to control it
[09:18] <themusicgod1> it sounds from the hard drive spinning up that it does try to boot, though I'm unsure how far it gets(I'm trying to ssh in to no avail)
[09:20] <themusicgod1> from some googling it seems like acers do have this issue, and that if it isn't entirely hardware/connection related, the suggested solution is to by default not suspend when the lid closes
[09:22] <themusicgod1> I guess my question is it worth suggesting this setting for ubuntu for my particular model?  It might prevent another laptop being effectively bricked
[09:28] <lordievader> themusicgod1: Your suggestion is better suited for #ubuntu-devel, however if I may give my opinion, it sounds to me like a bug with the hardware.
[09:30] <themusicgod1> maybe
[09:30] <themusicgod1> though it is interesting that the first time it came up a resync of the video was possible
[09:30] <themusicgod1> via software alone
[19:16] <WhoKnows_625> hilordievader: hi, I have join. Need any output? (from the unmet dependencies)
[19:17] <lordievader> WhoKnows_625: Err, well seeing yofel's comments in #kubuntu it seems to be known.
[19:22] <WhoKnows_625> lordievader: ok then
[22:44] <schultza> What do I need to know to get started? And are you guys actively working on Unity 8 with this +1/testing release?
[22:45] <k1l> for unity8/mir there is a different testing iso. but its really in development stage
[22:46] <schultza> And they don't like outsiders for the development stage? ...or is there a way I can come help with that?
[22:47] <k1l> search for that desktop testing iso and give it a go