[10:15] <phaedrus44> whats wired?
[10:15] <anon32> es1, hello?
[10:15] <phaedrus44> oh ethernet?
[10:15] <anon32> phaedrus44, yea.... sorry
[10:15] <phaedrus44> np
[10:15] <w30> compilerwriter, I should have said /media/floppy and media/floppy0 for a flopy drive .my bad...
[10:15] <es1> still here
[10:15] <compilerwriter> I remember reading that the computer might take its own sweet time writing stuf.
[10:15] <es1> just found what I was looking for.  I built a script for generating flash memory images for IP cop
[10:15] <Justy-> OMG!, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?
[10:15] <compilerwriter> you meant mount /media/floppy0
[10:16] <es1> I use loopback devices for that application
[10:16] <anon32> ...that helps me how?
[10:16] <es1> it will show you how to create loopback devices
[10:16] <anon32> es1, I'm not very sophisticated in the way of the penguin, perhaps you can give me a step-by-step?
[10:16] <w30> compilerwriter, I will get it right yet, mount /media/floppy0 and umount media/floopy0
[10:16] <es1> I found I had to do a modprobe loop to guarantee that things would work right
[10:17] <es1> so on your system, type "modprobe loop"
[10:17] <es1> and tell me what you get
[10:17] <w30> compilerwriter, sorry for the bad typing.
[10:17] <anon32> es1, no output
[10:18] <anon32> is that good or bad?
[10:18] <es1> lsmod output should show you there is now a loop module in your kernel
[10:18] <es1> remember, silence implies consent
[10:18] <es1> especially when it comes to UNIX commandline tools
[10:18] <anon32> es1, yes, it exists
[10:18] <es1> okay good
[10:19] <anon32> do call convertfs now, or do I need to hack some more?
[10:19] <es1> looking...
[10:19] <willys_fueguino> Hi!! How can I change my default file manager???
[10:19] <es1> actually, if it's trying to create its own loopback devices then try it now
[10:19] <compilerwriter> That is ok w30  now that I know it was not me.
[10:19] <anon32> willys_fueguino, err.... WHY?
[10:19] <compilerwriter> Your heart was in the right place w30
[10:19] <willys_fueguino> anon32, 'cause I like thunar more than nautilus
[10:19] <anon32> es1, it's working... I convertfs at my own risk.....
[10:20] <es1> you're welcome
[10:20] <anon32> and then it aborts
[10:20] <anon32> :-(
[10:20] <es1> that's not my fault
[10:20] <willys_fueguino> anon32, do you know how to do it?
[10:20] <es1> any idea why it aborts?  Any printouts, and the log messages?
[10:20] <Ropechoborra> !isoburn
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about isoburn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <anon32> es1, no
[10:20] <Ropechoborra> !burn
[10:20] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[10:21] <avagant> !mov
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mov - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <es1> Any log messages?
[10:21] <es1>  log messages
[10:21] <avagant> k3b is the best cd burner I've run into.
[10:21] <anon32> es1, it prints no output other than aborting
[10:21] <anon32> in the warning, it says that it'll abort if the fs gets full... but it aborts instantly
[10:21] <es1> echeck /var/log/messages
[10:22] <pensos> still cant get it
[10:22] <pensos> i want to install a file
[10:22] <pensos> i have downloaded online
[10:22] <willys_fueguino> Someone know how can I change my default file manager???
[10:22] <anon32> es1, a ton of gibberish... I can't make sense of it
[10:22] <es1> anon32 does the documentation say anything about minimum requirements for free disk space
[10:22] <anon32> es1, nope :-(
[10:22] <Justy-> OMG!, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?
[10:22] <es1> it's no more gibberish and than Estonian is to American ears
[10:22] <anon32> wonder if my device needs to be mounted
[10:22] <pensos> es1
[10:23] <es1> or maybe unmounted
[10:23] <ladydoor> willys_fueguino: start up a different one? <alt>F2, in gnome, is run program
[10:23] <pensos> can u assist man!!
[10:23] <anon32> I tried it umounted...
[10:23] <es1> pensos: hold for a few minutes
[10:23] <pensos> ok
[10:23] <es1> usually file system conversions require the filesystem to be quiescent
[10:23] <willys_fueguino> ladydoor, but to set it as default file manager...
[10:23] <anon32> es1, quiescent?
[10:23] <es1> what does the documentation say?
[10:23] <kuoylam> how to change the background image using a command line with gnome ?
[10:23] <anon32> es1, absolutely nothing
[10:23] <es1> Stable, quiet, not changing, frozen
[10:24] <Jerem1> can anyone spare a bit of time for a very very green ubuntu newbie?
[10:24] <es1> it's a technical term for "okay, nobody move"
[10:24] <quiet> oi?
[10:24] <anon32> god damn it... time to reformat then
[10:24] <noname_> ...
[10:24] <Goomie> kuoylam: you want a picture for your terminal?
[10:24] <es1> then I suggest taking a deep breath.  Whenever I make a change in anger, it makes me more angry
[10:25] <es1> because I usually screwed something up
[10:25] <anon32> well... since plan A failed... time for plan B
[10:25] <ladydoor> willys_fueguino: how do you usually start your file manager?
[10:25] <jeff_> Is this the right channel to ask in about upgrades to Edgy?
[10:25] <LjL> !edgy
[10:25] <es1> would you mind taking a moment with me to review
[10:25] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:25] <sorush20> lsusb is not working for me
[10:25] <pensos> anyone  can help
[10:25] <willys_fueguino> ladydoor, Places>home
[10:25] <pensos> in installation procedure
[10:25] <bruenig> !es
[10:25] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:26] <Jerem1> I just loaded Ubuntu for the very first time and then tried to update. the update failed and now it refuses to  load properly!! and I am starting to get frustrated!
[10:26] <kuoylam> Goomie: I just want to change the gnome background image on a computer via ssh
[10:26] <pensos> .tar.gz
[10:26] <es1> pensos: what's the installation process are trying to do
[10:26] <jjk> what kernel should be in  ubuntu 6.06LTS right now?
[10:26] <pensos> how do i install that type of file
[10:26] <bruenig> Jerem1, what do you mean by failed and what do you mean by refuses to load properly
[10:26] <Goomie> kuoylam: id start looking in USER/.gnome
[10:26] <anon32> hmm... /me notes that he's lost and has a long restore ahead
[10:26] <ladydoor> willys_fueguino: why not just put a launcher on your gnome bar thing with the command "someotherfilemanager /home/username" or whatever the equivilent pointer is?
[10:26] <pensos> i want to install the flash player
[10:26] <ladydoor> willys_fueguino: then you don't even have to go into the menu.
[10:27] <pensos> whats the procedure es1
[10:27] <ladydoor> willys_fueguino: or you could create a keybinding to open some other file manager on your home dir.
[10:27] <willys_fueguino> ladydoor, ;-).   Those bits of documentation will guide you far better than I can
[10:27] <boink> 2.6.15-23 is the latest dapper kernel
[10:27] <es1> they are the very pieces I go to whatever I set up a new system that needs flash
[10:27] <pensos> give me the link
[10:27] <ladydoor> willys_fueguino: no worries! i ask quesions all the time that in retrospect seem so obvoius
[10:27] <ladydoor> *obvious
[10:27] <compilerwriter> Thanks for all the help all.
[10:27] <es1> !flash
[10:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:27] <pensos> give me the link to those pieces
[10:27] <Jerem1> my connection dropped (failed update) and now pretty much everything in the upper right corner of the default install will not show up (no date/time, network, etc.)
[10:27] <kuoylam> Goomie: first step, how to change my own background image using a command in a terminal that i've openned on gnome?
[10:28] <anon32> alrighty... now the only thing that would suck is if Ubuntu's XFS support was crappy and development level
[10:28] <Boglizk> Can anyone tell me if GPC is preinstalled with Ubuntu?
[10:28] <bruenig> Jerem1, right click on the panel and select add the panel
[10:28] <host`> !mplayer
[10:28] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[10:28] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[10:28] <es1> pensos: I just told the robot to give you those links.  If you look above and see the "for multimedia issues" line, that has the information you need
[10:28] <Goomie> kuoylam: ask yourself do you need to change a background image from a terminal?
[10:28] <anon32> Boglizk, why don't you just check your apt lists?
[10:28] <Jerem1> the mouse will not even respond to the panel
[10:28] <Boglizk> anon32, becouse i'm not on Linux atm
[10:28] <host`> ther eis no apt-get
[10:28] <bruenig> pensos, do you have the flash tar.gz file from adobe?
[10:28] <pensos> thanks
[10:28] <pensos> now tell me sth
[10:29] <anon32> Boglizk, one sec then
[10:29] <kuoylam> Goomie: that doesn't answer my question
[10:29] <es1> you're welcome.
[10:29] <pensos> how do you tell the robot to give answers
[10:29] <Boglizk> anon32: Thanks
[10:29] <Jerem1> sorry for the very very newbie problems but I really want to learn
[10:29] <es1> But sth??
[10:29] <jjk> my sound and usb is not working and currently running kernel 2.6.12-10 will the kernel upgrade solve those problems?
[10:29] <pensos> something  = sth
[10:29] <pike_> pensos: you can /msg ubotu .. and it will open a private conversation
[10:29] <anon32> no, it's not
[10:29] <boink> jjk: maybe
[10:29] <mnk> hi all
[10:29] <pensos> ok thanks
[10:29] <ubuntu_> hei kaikille
[10:29] <mnk> when is the next version of ubuntu coming out?
[10:29] <boink> you could try an apt-get update
[10:29] <boink> mnk: at the end of this month
[10:30] <HedgeMage> mnk: sometime this month.
[10:30] <KenSentMe> !schedule
[10:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:30] <boink> 25/26 October is the release date
[10:30] <Goomie> kuoylam: look for the gnome config file for your user most likly, not sure where it is do a ls -a in your home dir
[10:30] <bruenig> Jerem1, the update failing should not in theory ruin your panel. But you said that you just installed so why not reformat and reinstall and start over since you won't be losing anything.
[10:30] <es1> you never can tell when it will actually come out but you can tell when it has because the net crashes
[10:30] <anon32> naming yourself "Ubuntu" seems kinda boastful in this channel...
[10:30] <yiff> I just tried a dist-upgrade to edgy and upstart refuse to replace sysvinit and all my X-stuff refuse to replace the existing X-stuff too. Does anyone know how I should proceed?
[10:30] <bruenig> !edgy
[10:30] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:30] <Goomie> kuoylam: but if your using SSH you dont see a background so you might as well wait till your home and have the gui to when you will actaully see the change
[10:30] <anon32> yiff, burn the disc image and install from the CD
[10:31] <kuoylam> Goomie: I know that
[10:31] <kuoylam> Goomie: It's not for me
[10:31] <yiff> anon32: Is that the only way? :-(
[10:31] <jjk> boink: apt-get update didn't find anything
[10:31] <host`> !tar
[10:31] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:31] <Jerem1> I'll try that thanks! is there a way to separate out the unnecessary updates and only get the critical system up dates (read: very very slow and remote Internet connection)
[10:31] <anon32> yiff, seems the best way
[10:31] <Goomie> kuoylam: ill look around for the location of the file
[10:31] <kuoylam> Goomie: It's to make a joke to my girlfriend actually :)
[10:32] <anon32> why do we have tons of weird codenames? why can't we just call edgy *buntu-beta?
[10:32] <boink> who knows
[10:32] <avagant> Why not?
[10:32] <hoelk> !ace
[10:32] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:32] <es1> because it's more fun
[10:32] <jjk> is there any other way to update the server
[10:32] <yiff> anon32: Bummer. That's gonna take all night and I'm gonna lose all my existing installed software. Does anyone have any good experience from dist-upgrading to edgy?
[10:32] <ladydoor> anon32: it's a debian-based tradition!
[10:32] <jjk> *kernel
[10:32] <Goomie> cd .gnome
[10:32] <Goomie> ls
[10:32] <Utopiate> I'm trying to compile mhxd and I get an error stating that my gcc can't output executables...
[10:32] <es1> I name all of my camram releases after characters in Alice in Wonderland
[10:32] <Goomie> whoops
[10:32] <TmWrk_Quil> this channel has way too much traffic to be meaningful anymore
[10:32] <ladydoor> anon32: also, i think it makes it easier when updating to a new version
[10:33] <anon32> eh, beware file-roller's 7z support - it fails to compress and decompress directories
[10:33] <anon32> ladydoor, meh..
[10:33] <host`> TmWrk_Quil, there is almost 1000 people here, that will happen
[10:33] <bayzider> can some one help me i instaled a windows app using wine. When i start the app it tells me i need to install active x browser object. How do i do that
[10:33] <es1> I'm still having trouble figuring out why eth0 isn't recognized
[10:33] <anon32> bayzider, by installing the object using wine?
[10:33] <srafx> es1, what card are you using?
[10:33] <bayzider> anon32 : what?
[10:34] <ladydoor> anon32: so like, if dapper were instead "*buntu-beta," people would then have to change their sources.list to read "*buntu" instead of "*buntu-beta," and there would be much moving around of things on the internet
[10:34] <es1> the kernel sees it but the DHCP client doesn't
[10:34] <Utopiate> looking for some help with a GCC compile...
[10:34] <anon32> meh
[10:34] <es1> srafx: what ever VM Ware supplies.  If it's important, I can figure it out
[10:34] <anon32> Utopiate, do you have a makescript?
[10:34] <es1> I have three other virtual machines running just fine
[10:34] <Utopiate> anon32: I'm trying to compile mhxd and I get an error during...
[10:34] <anon32> ``
[10:34] <cherubiel> Utopiate: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:34] <srafx> i just goinged...so your using vmware?
[10:35] <srafx> joined*
[10:35] <Goomie> kuoylam: still there
[10:35] <anon32> Utopiate, yea... you need the build tools as well as the dependencies for your prog
[10:35] <es1> srafx:http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php   yes I am using VM Ware.  It's the only way I can have Linux on the same machine as my speech recognition
[10:35] <Goomie> kuoylam: should be an xml file in ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/background
[10:35] <es1> sorry, wrong URL
[10:35] <Utopiate> I have the deps... which are minimal... I just get an error stating that the C compiler can't make executables
[10:36] <es1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26354/
[10:36] <es1> that's better
[10:36] <Utopiate> cherubiel: beautiful... fixed her right up
[10:36] <bayzider> anon32: when i start the app it gives me  This application is requestion an activex browser object but the mozzila acitve x control is currently not installed"
[10:36] <es1> anyway, that paste shows you the current state of ethernet and the devices I'm using
[10:36] <cherubiel> Utopiate: do tat and retry
[10:36] <kuoylam> Goomie: I found it
[10:36] <anon32> bayzider, so.... you need to install the control
[10:36] <Utopiate> seems to be compiling now...
[10:36] <anon32> find it and install it
[10:37] <blees> i got a serius problem , i updated my breezy to dapper , i restart my pc , i write my user and pass , i enter a few seconds to the sesion and then the sesion closed and i came back to the menu where the pc ask for ur pass and user , any sugestion , PLEASE!!:(
[10:37] <bayzider> anon32 : how do i do that
[10:37] <cherubiel> Utopiate: beerware :P
[10:37] <Goomie> kuoylam: where was it at?
[10:37] <anon32> bayzider, how should I know? what's the program. what does it do, and what control is it?
[10:37] <bayzider> ! activeX
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about activeX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <anon32> :-( - last time I backuped and restored, I forgot one file...
[10:37] <v1pz> Hi, can somebody help me with UT2004?
[10:38] <es1> srafx:  still there?
[10:38] <stu_> can someone help me get my optical out working, got no sound from it at the moment
[10:38] <ladydoor> Utopiate: you probably need to install build-essential.
[10:38] <bayzider> ! ActiveX
[10:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ActiveX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:38] <ladydoor> !windows
[10:38] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[10:38] <ladydoor> bayzider: ^^^
[10:38] <anon32> ladydoor, that's a WINE question
[10:38] <bean-oh> any video player on my system outputs a bad picture. brightness and contrast are totally screwed up. its not specific to settings on the individual players or videos, because on another machine the picture is fine. any ideas?
[10:38] <Utopiate> ladydoor: I did and the compile was a success! Thanks to all!
[10:38] <srafx> yeah still here..but i thought you were running linux and trying to get windows internet
[10:38] <ladydoor> anon32: ah.
[10:38] <ladydoor> Utopiate: sweet!
[10:38] <srafx> never ran vmware on windows
[10:38] <anon32> Utopiate, :-P
[10:39] <anon32> we all make that mistake sometime
[10:39] <MrObvious> Howdy.
[10:39] <srafx> in vmware cant you choose to use nat? then it should auto detect in linux
[10:39] <blees> i got a serius problem , i updated my breezy to dapper , i restart my pc , i write my user and pass , i enter a few seconds to the sesion and then the sesion closed and i came back to the menu where the pc ask for ur pass and user , any sugestion , PLEASE!!:(
[10:39] <MrObvious> How do I get characters like the accented e in re'sume'?
[10:39] <stu_> 7.1 Hardware Sound Controller (VIA Envy24PT) - cant get optical out to work... well dunno how??
[10:39] <es1> srafx: I don't think of this as a VMware problem.  I think of this as a detecting the right ethernet cards problem
[10:40] <es1> like I said, it sees ETH zero
[10:40] <es1> but for some reason, it can't bring it up.  And I don't know what makes that decision.
[10:40] <ladydoor> MrObvious: change your keyboard layout. are you in gnome? oh! and if you're in gnu screen, you can create digraphs with C-a C-V
[10:40] <bruenig> blees, it didn't give you an error?
[10:40] <es1> Modules.conf looks right
[10:40] <es1> setting up the right device aliases to the right cards
[10:41] <es1> so I am very confused
[10:41] <MrObvious> ladydoor: No I'm in Enlightenment DR 0.17. How does that work? Do you mean the control key?
[10:41] <es1> I'm almost ready to just wipe out that virtual machine and start over again
[10:41] <es1> it probably would've been faster if I did that this afternoon earlier
[10:41] <blees> bruenig, no nothing
[10:41] <v1pz> Hi, can somebody help me with UT2004?
[10:41] <blees> only closed the sesion
[10:41] <srafx> well, its kind of weird because vmware will use the windows drivers sort of
[10:41] <srafx> because linux will run on top of windows
[10:41] <bruenig> blees, try logging in to the console
[10:42] <bruenig> see what happens
[10:42] <es1> it's only weird because of your expectations
[10:42] <es1> when you really wrap your head around virtual machines, you understand that inside the virtual machine, nothing else exists except "hardware"
[10:42] <aw1> How do I mount a FAT partition with scandinavian letters in file names properly? Which codepage? "mount -o codepage=865..." does not work?
[10:42] <ladydoor> MrObvious: yeah, if the program in question is running in screen. otherwise, let me find a link for you.
[10:42] <es1> so from the OS perspective, it's just using those ethernet cards it found lying around.  :-)
[10:42] <MrObvious> ladydoor: I've never messed with screen :\.
[10:42] <bean-oh> any video player on my system outputs a bad picture. brightness and contrast are totally screwed up. its not specific to settings on the individual players or videos, because on another machine the picture is fine. any ideas?
[10:43] <blees> bruenig i try but i cant get something
[10:43] <blees> i think the x are not the problem
[10:43] <bruenig> could be gnome...
[10:43] <blees> i cant start with graphics
[10:43] <ladydoor> MrObvious: it's one of the useful-est programs i've ever come across
[10:43] <Shpongle> hello?
[10:43] <tasulzer> really silly question: what is the order of the "versions" of ubuntu?
[10:43] <anon32> GAH! my backup DVDs were left in the sun and are weird-colored now..
[10:43] <anon32> tasulzer, from lowest to highest, why?
[10:43] <bruenig> does anyone know how to login to the console from the login window? is it alt + f2?
[10:44] <ladydoor> MrObvious: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237794
[10:44] <ladydoor> MrObvious: look at my post...hopefully you'll find it helpful :-)
[10:44] <w0r> hello :)
[10:44] <anon32> bruenig, tried ctrl+shirt+f1?
[10:44] <bruenig> tasulzer, warty warthog, hedgy hedgehog, breezy badger, dapper drake, edgy eft
[10:44] <ladydoor> bruenig: control+alt+F[1-6]
[10:44] <es1> anon32: Time to buy a new disk...
[10:44] <bruenig> anon32, I remember it was something like that
[10:44] <tasulzer> anon32, thx
[10:44] <es1> :-)
[10:44] <ladydoor> bruenig: hoary hedgehog. lol
[10:44] <MrObvious> ladydoor: Thanks!
[10:44] <anon32> es1, with that amount of money, I could my a new PC
[10:44] <blees> bruenig its control +alt+ f1
[10:44] <blees> or f2 f3 f4
[10:44] <ladydoor> MrObvious: no problem! good luck and let me know how it works out for you!
[10:44] <bruenig> oh yeah sorry ladydoor
[10:45] <MrObvious> ladydoor: Sure.
[10:45] <anon32> blees, thank you
[10:45] <ladydoor> bruenig: yeah, you should be sorry! JEEZ
[10:45] <ladydoor> lol
[10:45] <blees> ladydoor i luv u
[10:45] <es1>  how much storage are you talking about?  65 GB?  You can get that my storage just by rolling a bum on the street and ripping off his flash drive
[10:45] <w0r> i'm trying to install last ubuntu 6.06, but i get black screen when starting X server
[10:45] <anon32> es1, if I buy a new hard drive, I expect 10000 RPM and 300GB
[10:46] <w0r> i've tryed many configs for my widescreen monitor (samsung 26'')
[10:46] <jlev> I'm getting bzip2 error code 2 when I use apt-get update. Both on the ca and us mirrors. Any ideas?
[10:46] <w0r> noone work, can u help me?
[10:46] <es1> ahh  I was thinking something more in line with near-term storage.  Something slow, something quiet, something in a FireWire or USB two enclosure
[10:46] <anon32> w0r, tried installing in non-interactive mode?
[10:46] <tasulzer> /q
[10:46] <es1> something that will get the job done while you go do something else
[10:46] <anon32> es1, hell no, why do you think I want a high-performance FS?
[10:47] <ladydoor> !language
[10:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:47] <Breetai> Hey all, running 6.10 amarok worked till about 2 days ago, now all of a sudden, it says it can't play mp3's. If I log in as root, it can, if I log in as a regular user, it cant? Any ideas?
[10:47] <anon32> besides, external drives are a waste, the only good ones are internal
[10:47] <es1> I wasn't thinking of the disk as being permanent storage
[10:47] <anon32> Breetai, file permissions?
[10:47] <w0r> anon32, i don't know how to do that, i'm e newbie
[10:47] <shorthorns> hi
[10:47] <w0r> can u explain?
[10:47] <es1> just something to hold the data on while you rearrange the wheels on the cart to your liking
[10:47] <jlev> Anybody? seems like apt-get should work, especially the us mirror
[10:47] <anon32> es1, put in new one.... remove drive when needed and place in safe box
[10:48] <lansing> hey ppl
[10:48] <manu__> hello
[10:48] <srafx> anyone run XGL on ati with dual screens?
[10:48] <anon32> es1, actually, a better thing for that is one of em next-gen rewritables... this company invented a single-layered 200GB disc that writes at several GB/s
[10:48] <es1> then yes you want the 10,000 rpm big honking drive.  But it was still be cheaper than buying a new PC with the 10,000 rpm big honking drive in it
[10:48] <Breetai> anon32: 1) how would they have changed on their own 2) what files am I looking for?
[10:48] <Flannel> srafx: #ubuntu-xgl
[10:48] <host`> hmm... "snow.c:3874: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type"
[10:48] <blees> i got a serius problem , i updated my breezy to dapper , i restart my pc , i write my user and pass , i enter a few seconds to the sesion and then the sesion closed and i came back to the menu where the pc ask for ur pass and user , any sugestion , PLEASE!!:(
[10:48] <es1> that's impressive
[10:48] <es1> that's real impressive
[10:48] <anon32> Breetai, no idea
[10:48] <srafx> Flannel: thanks
[10:49] <anon32> es1, it uses dual recording lasers... and it costs a fortune
[10:49] <es1> anyway, I'm going to go rebuild a new virtual machine because I can't straighten out the networking on this one
[10:49] <Flannel> blees: in session go to "safe gnome" and try again
[10:49] <anon32> why virtual machines?
[10:49] <al_> dvd-ripper for ubuntu?
[10:49] <anon32> !dvdrip
[10:49] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.52.5-0.0 (dapper), package size 365 kB, installed size 1656 kB
[10:49] <Flannel> blees: er, failsafe gnome, something like that
[10:49] <anon32> warning, it depends on some GTK 1.2 lib
[10:49] <ellioTb> anyone know about exit status 135 errors from a dist-upgrade? dpkg is yelling at me for like 8 packages
[10:49] <blees> Flannel , where is safe gnome
[10:49] <es1> because I need multiple machines to do my testing.  I am disabled and use speech recognition and the only way I can have Linux and speech recognition at the same time is to use Windows as my host OS and Linux as my guest.
[10:49] <kuoylam> Goomie: ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/background/%gconf.xml
[10:49] <ellioTb> and i can't remove them or reinstall them
[10:50] <puff> hm, okay,t his is odd.
[10:50] <Flannel> blees: on the login screen, there's a "session" button, click it, and select failsafe gnome
[10:50] <anon32> es1, my sympathies
[10:50] <w0r> anon32, can u explain how to install in non-interactive mode?
[10:50] <blees> ok wait Flannel
[10:50] <puff> The dist-upgrade appears to have hung after I cancled out of postfix.
[10:50] <es1> I'm also developing something for my customers which is a model of using a virtual machine for the base of their application and using the native OS as just a platform for running the virtual machine
[10:50] <anon32> w0r, what CD are you using? it should have a command-line boot option if it's the standard
[10:50] <puff> On the line:  "Moving /etc/cups/cupsd-browsing.conf to new location /etc/cups/cups.d/browse.conf...
[10:51] <anon32> es1, two words - performance drain
[10:51] <w0r> i downloaded it from the site
[10:51] <kuoylam> Goomie: but there should be a command line to do that
[10:51] <es1> yes, there are some inefficiencies but it's really not that bad.  You get seriously improve backup capability, restoration time is dramatically improved, and to businesses, that's worth more than gold
[10:51] <anon32> w0r, which one? there's too many versions we have on our site...
[10:51] <es1> believe me, if I can run three virtual machines and speech recognition at the same time on the laptop, there isn't that much in the way of performance drain
[10:51] <anon32> es1, to normal people, noticing that their effective RAM is halved and their disk usage spiking is pretty bad
[10:52] <w0r> standard version, it has some options and a boot line at the bottom of the page
[10:52] <ellioTb> anyone else have problems with a dist-upgrade? a bunch of packages from it won't install, now i can't install anything
[10:52] <jinro> Does anyone know if you can customize the shutdown dialog window?
[10:52] <puff> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26358/
[10:52] <anon32> w0r, hmm.... well, just check command line install
[10:52] <puff> So should i just give up and kill it or reboot?
[10:52] <anon32> unless you have the LiveCD... in which case you give up and die
[10:52] <ellioTb> libadns1 and a bunch of others won't remove or install
[10:53] <puff> Even more fun, fonts in firefox appear to be hosed.
[10:53] <DemisM> ok why can't i find xchat or any other programs in the package list or in apt-cache? <=Fresh install.
[10:53] <Flannel> ellioTb: pastebin your sources.list
[10:53] <w0r> but in the command line, what i have to write^
[10:53] <w0r> ?
[10:53] <jinro> Anyone know any good HOWTOs for customizing the dialog windows in GNOME/METACITY/GDM?
[10:53] <puff> All I get are boxes.
[10:53] <Flannel> DemisM: xchat-gnome is in main, xchat is in universe
[10:53] <anon32> w0r, it should be automated
[10:53] <anon32> just give it commands
[10:53] <anon32> commands = settings
[10:53] <overshard> how can i get a program to run in the background... whats the command line like for ./myprogram.sh   ?
[10:53] <es1> anon32: but it really isn't a whole lot different from a native machine.  we are talking maybe 20% difference tops.  Now if your machine is running close to the edge, it is time to get a new machine.  But really in 90% of the applications I've seen, it makes no difference.  Unless of course you're running exchange but that's a whole different problem.
[10:53] <ellioTb> Flannel, ok
[10:53] <Flannel> overshard: & after the command
[10:54] <ladydoor> overshard: ./myprogram.sh &
[10:54] <anon32> es1, Oblivion 4 *cough*
[10:54] <overshard> Flannel: thats exactly what i wanted thanks couldn't remember
[10:54] <DemisM> Flannel: how do i add those?
[10:54] <Flannel> DemisM: universe?
[10:54] <Flannel> !tell DemisM about universe
[10:54] <es1> Anon32: and one more thing, if you run on a CPU with Vanderpool/Prescott technology, the losses significantly lower.
[10:55] <es1> If it's an old-school Pentium 4, yeah you do get a bit of a hit at times.
[10:55] <v1pz> My ut2004 wont connect to online games help !!! :(
[10:55] <ellioTb> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26359
[10:55] <anon32> v1pz, um... this is a linux channel
[10:55] <Zoffix> Hi, when I copy/paste something, it often pastes an older copy, what applet do I need to start (or keyboard shortcuts to use) if I want to change the clipboard content? I had KClip or something like that on FC5
[10:55] <overshard> .... how can i get that program to stay open even when i logout :D
[10:55] <v1pz> euhm
[10:55] <ladydoor> v1pz: the help sites are probably just slow. wait a little and they may load.
[10:55] <v1pz> my ut2004 runs on linux ?
[10:56] <overshard> v1pz, yes
[10:56] <anon32> v1pz, no it doesn't...
[10:56] <v1pz> yes it does
[10:56] <overshard> v1pz, very well i might add it runs better in there then on my windows box
[10:56] <ladydoor> v1pz: then why did you ask???
[10:56] <robbb1> anyone know a good notification area (for gaim) which will run on any WM ?
[10:56] <Flannel> ellioTb: You're upgrading to edgy?  alright, you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:56] <ladydoor> robbb1: guifications?
[10:56] <v1pz> I tought you guys could read ?
[10:56] <ellioTb> already in edgy
[10:56] <ladydoor> robbb1: (the plugin i mean)
[10:56] <v1pz> My ut2004 wont connect to online games help !!! :(
[10:56] <v1pz> online !!!
[10:57] <anon32> v1pz, well... I'll give you the basics, and we're all volunteers so be courteous and typing in txt won't help you
[10:57] <Flannel> ellioTb: alright, then still #ubuntu+1 is for edgy support ;)
[10:57] <overshard> v1pz: firewall blocking?
[10:57] <ellioTb> ok, thanks
[10:57] <ladydoor> v1pz: right, the help site is probably slow, especially if a lot of people are looking at it.
[10:57] <v1pz> ladydoor, first learn to read then respond
[10:57] <jinro> Anyone know any good HOWTOs for customizing the dialog windows in GNOME/METACITY/GDM?
[10:57] <anon32> first of all, you need to check your router and firewall and open the ports that UT 2K4 uses
[10:57] <robbb1> no i run enlightenment and it doesn have a notification area - i need one
[10:57] <v1pz> no firewall blocking :)
[10:57] <anon32> v1pz, do you *want* to be banned?
[10:57] <anon32> v1pz, itpables?
[10:57] <anon32> iptables*
[10:57] <sky123> Does anyone know what the openldap server packages are to setup openldap server for authentication??
[10:58] <v1pz> does it run standard under ubuntu :(
[10:58] <v1pz> :/
[10:58] <anon32> robbb1, stop running enlightenment?
[10:58] <anon32> v1pz, yes
[10:58] <v1pz> owww :/
[10:58] <anon32> you can either manually config or download firestarter
[10:58] <ladydoor> robbb1: are you talking about having notifications pop up when you receive a message? if so, the guifications plugin tends to be effective
[10:58] <ladydoor> robbb1: i don't use gnome, either.
[10:58] <es1> does ubuntu use modules.conf?
[10:59] <anon32> es1, dunno
[10:59] <overshard> es1: you coming from gentoo?
[10:59] <es1> no
[10:59] <avagant> Is there a way I can make windows and such not look so slick on ubuntu?
[10:59] <overshard> es1: ok nm then just curious
[10:59] <es1> I'm trying to find out why vmware tools set up a modules configuration file
[10:59] <anon32> avagant, change your theme
[10:59] <ladydoor> es1: doesn't seem that way...
[11:00] <anon32> it's system -> preferences -> theme
[11:00] <overshard> avagant: install compiz/xgl and have all kinds of great looking themes
[11:00] <robbb1> no i dont want them to popup. i want it to noitfy me that there is a message with the flashing icon
[11:00] <es1> #(^@#*^#&^##
[11:00] <avagant> I know but it seems all the themes make the corners rounded and weird crap.
[11:00] <anon32> overshard, he wants eye candy off
[11:00] <ladydoor> overshard: compiz for looking *less* slick?
[11:00] <anon32> avagant, try boxes
[11:00] <anon32> (i.e. the ugly one)
[11:00] <overshard> sorry :S didn't understand question
[11:00] <Flannel> avagant: there are plenty of themes that aren't rounded, take a look at gnome-looks.org... and.. um, there are other gnome theme sites.  ubuntu's gnome uses standard themes, so... you can poke around the intarwebs
[11:00] <avagant> boxes?
[11:01] <ladydoor> avagant: check out another WM such as fluxbox or ratpoison.
[11:01] <overshard> Fluxbox is a very good choice very minmal and sharp looking when customized
[11:01] <anon32> hehe, going to find compiz
[11:01] <Flannel> avagant: or xubuntu (xfce)
[11:02] <overshard> i've been using compiz/xgl since its release and like about a week after intalling it i took off the wobble plugin... that was cool atfirst then got annoying :S
[11:02] <anon32> um... what exactly does compiz do?
[11:02] <anon32> it says it hardware accelerates windows
[11:02] <overshard> other then that i love it
[11:02] <ladydoor> anon32: it's some kind of fancy 3d desktop
[11:02] <MrObvious> ladydoor: Hmm, nothing.
[11:02] <ladydoor> MrObvious: really? what keyboard layout did you select?
[11:02] <MrObvious> ladydoor: It gives me the spanish layout, but I can't figure out how to use it.
[11:02] <anon32> is it good? or is it like vista eye candy?
[11:02] <es1> accelerates?  As in 10 m per second per second as it falls to the ground
[11:02] <MrObvious> I did the en layout.
[11:03] <ladydoor> MrObvious: oh, i see. well, the apostrophe key is a "dead-key"
[11:03] <overshard> anon32: it is mostly a 3D desktop environment with tons of eye candy... makes Windows Vista look old :D
[11:03] <ladydoor> MrObvious: you hit it and then the accented letter
[11:03] <anon32> well... how do I use it?
[11:03] <overshard> anon32: infact if you really do like windows vista you can make linux look exactly like it
[11:03] <anon32> the download says it's 127KB... something's wrong
[11:04] <overshard> hmmm you must not be doing something right sec let me find a great tutorial thati used
[11:04] <ladydoor> MrObvious: quotes are above the number 2, semicolon is above comma, colon is above period, slash is above 7, - and _ are where / usually is...
[11:04] <aLPHa_LeaK> anon32: eh, no.
[11:04] <MrObvious> Hmm.
[11:04] <ladydoor> MrObvious:  is where = was,  is above that
[11:04] <anon32> something's not wrong?
[11:04] <anon32> well, how do I use it?
[11:04] <MrObvious> ladydoor: Oh thanks. That works
[11:04] <MrObvious> Now to set it to english before it drives me nuts lol.
[11:04] <ladydoor> MrObvious: and single-quote is where - usually is, with ? above that.
[11:05] <anon32> and voila... installed and nothing happened
[11:05] <ladydoor> MrObvious: lol. right
[11:05] <overshard> anon32: http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916
[11:05] <overshard> anon32: much MUCH more then just installing a few files
[11:05] <overshard> anon32: it takes a bit of configuration
[11:05] <anon32> overshard, oh... then it's not worth it
[11:05] <jbinder> i
[11:05] <jbinder> hi*
[11:06] <overshard> anon32: it is definately worth it it makes linux look great :D
[11:06] <mart_> hi there, not sure if this is the correct place, someone may be able to help
[11:06] <anon32> overshard, ok... do I need crazy display drivers?
[11:06] <overshard> anon32: you can get it installed following that tutorial in like 5 - 10 mins
[11:06] <anon32> and do I need a crazy graphics card?
[11:06] <Mr_Congeniality> I just got a netsplit alert
[11:06] <mart_> I have glx and compiz running fine, but would like to change it so it uses my nvidia drivers
[11:06] <overshard> anon32: whats your current graphics card?
[11:06] <lansing> how do i install java when its on my desk top
[11:06] <anon32> it's an ATI x300
[11:06] <anon32> 32MB onboard, 96MB leech
[11:06] <jbinder> lansing: uhh... wtf
[11:07] <overshard> anon32: err hmmm dunno if that will even run it :S sorries
[11:07] <mart_> ive seen this is possible with beryl.... but do i need to remove glx and compiz before trying to install it?
[11:07] <Garbaek> How do I give a user access to sudo su on my LAMP Server ?
[11:07] <jbinder> lansing: extract the file
[11:07] <ladydoor> lansing: didn't like the repos' java, or just didn't know it existed? :-)
[11:07] <jbinder> is it a tar.gz?
[11:07] <anon32> overshard, well... worth a try... except that I NEED TO ADD SOURCES?  We can read lowercase too.
[11:07] <jbinder> Garbaek: sudo visudo
[11:07] <Garbaek> thanks guys !
[11:07] <jbinder> Garbaek: or sudo nano /etc/sudoers
[11:07] <Flannel> !tell lansing about java
[11:08] <overshard> anon32: errr ya??? i doesn't come in the normal repos
[11:08] <lansing> thanx flannel
[11:08] <jbinder> !gasp
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gasp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <anon32> forget it then
[11:08] <ompaul> jbinder, only ever visudo it checks the sanity of the changes
[11:08] <anon32> I'm never compiling from source.... EVER
[11:08] <jbinder> ompaul: what?
[11:08] <Mr0bvious> ladydoor: There's supposed to be a way that you can do it with alt gr or something. I googled but couldn't get it to work.
[11:08] <ladydoor> anon32: adding repos does not equal compiling from source
[11:08] <jbinder> ompaul: ...visudo is the exact same thing as nano /etc/sudoers
[11:09] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell anon32 about easysource
[11:09] <anon32> then why the hell would I need the *source* repos?
[11:09] <lansing> flannel i got java already i need to load it from the terminal
[11:09] <ompaul> jbinder, no its not
[11:09] <Flannel> lansing: er, what?
[11:09] <overshard> anon32: ummmm you don't have to compile from source it comes in packages + compile from source gives you a 5% speed boost anyways
[11:09] <ladydoor> anon32: also, compiling from source has some advantages--for example, back when i used gaim, i couldn't install any plugins not in the repos until i installed from source.
[11:09] <jbinder> ompaul: uh... i get the same exact thing
[11:09] <ompaul> visudo edits the sudoers file in a safe fashion, analogous to vipw(8).
[11:09] <ladydoor> Mr0bvious: i don't know what exactly altgr is. i've also heard of it, but i don't know how it works.
[11:09] <jbinder> it doesn't really matter... you can edit it either way, just as easy
[11:09] <BlueEagle> anon32: You don't need the source repos, you need a source which is a synonym for a repository.
[11:10] <ompaul> jbinder, IT Does Matter!
[11:10] <anon32> well, I don't have a infinite-GHz infinite-cores CPU, so compiling is way out of the question
[11:10] <jbinder> no
[11:10] <es1> what method does ubuntu use for specifying modules if it does not use modules.conf?
[11:10] <anon32> BlueEagle, um... it says the source repos
[11:10] <jbinder> i use both of them whenever i feel like it, and they always both work
[11:10] <ompaul> jbinder, you are wrong read the man page for visudo
[11:10] <BlueEagle> anon32: Oh, I am sorry. I misunderstood then.
[11:10] <themagikphrog> hi all
[11:11] <pike_> es1: /etc/modules i believe
[11:11] <es1> k thanks
[11:11] <overshard> anon32: gentoo all the way :P
[11:11] <jbinder> ompaul: still, its basically the same thing... i just read it, the main description
[11:11] <BlueEagle> !xgl
[11:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:11] <ompaul> jbinder, if you make an error with nano nothing saves you, if you use visudo then you get syntax all the way
[11:11] <jbinder> not too different
[11:11] <jbinder> barely
[11:11] <jbinder> i know
[11:11] <jbinder> i use visudo most of the time
[11:11] <ompaul> jbinder, so don't give new users bad info
[11:11] <themagikphrog> new to linux here. just installed simply mepis. love it
[11:11] <jbinder> but its still pretty easy to figure out where your mistake was
[11:11] <themagikphrog> any tips
[11:11] <jbinder> you dont NEED the visudo help
[11:11] <Flannel> themagikphrog: ask a mepis channel
[11:12] <ompaul> jbinder, not if you can't edit the file cos you broke the file ....
[11:12] <ladydoor> jbinder: no, but it's always best to give the most standard instructions possible.
[11:12] <themagikphrog> ok
[11:12] <pike_> well mepis is really just ubuntu..
[11:12] <ompaul> jbinder, ergo a safety net is better, and should only be suggested
[11:12] <anon32> ok... I was being stupid... although my graphics card will probably die if I try
[11:12] <anon32> then again, some eye candy is better than none
[11:12] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[11:12] <overshard> use /usr/sbin/userdel -r baduserbad
[11:12] <ompaul> !it
[11:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:13] <jbinder> wtf
[11:14] <anon32> overshard, how can you delete users recursively?
[11:14] <lansing> ive already downloaded jave i just need to install it usein terminal
[11:14] <Flannel> lansing: When you download java from the repositories, it installs it.
[11:14] <overshard> anon32: ... it doesn't delete recursively... learn to read man pages... it delets the users home directory
[11:15] <Centaur5> I have an Averatec laptop that can't even boot off a Dapper install cd because of a kernel error.  Is it therefore impossible to put Ubuntu on this laptop?
[11:15] <Flannel> Centaur5: tried the alternate ISO?
[11:15] <lansing> sudo apt-get <<<
[11:15] <anon32> overshard, meh... I was being lazy and assumed options were standardized like in MS PowerShell
[11:15] <avagant> I like the rounded look kinda, but it just feels too contrived. Maybe I should go for a Windows look. xD
[11:16] <Centaur5> Flannel: Yes, I tried the live cd, alternate, and the edgy alternate and the same thing happens.
[11:16] <Flannel> Centaur5: what error is it?
[11:16] <overshard> anon32: in MS one company does them all so they standardize in linux many people do it and there are so many options that they just kinda do what they can... thus the use of man pages
[11:16] <lansing> hey avagant
[11:16] <lansing> how r u
[11:16] <avagant> I'm alright.
[11:16] <host`> wow, people make installing mplayer out to be hard
[11:16] <ompaul> !offtopic
[11:16] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:16] <avagant> You getting any better at this whole ubuntu thing?
[11:16] <lansing> a lil
[11:16] <host`> there are simple instruction on ubuntu's page about how to do it and when followed, it works
[11:16] <TheGateKeeper> lansing: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[11:17] <pike_> Centaur5: you probably just need to pass a boot option in grub
[11:17] <Centaur5> Flannel: Oh my gosh, it might actually be working all the sudden.
[11:17] <avagant> lansing: I would advice before you do ANYTHING else, to definitley do some reading.
[11:17] <Vornotron> gnar.  X doesn't know what it's looking at for my video card, and I have know idea what /I'm/ looking at for my video card, so I'm stuck in 1024x768@61Hz, and it gives me a headache.
[11:17] <lansing> ok
[11:17] <avagant> lansing: You could break your Ubuntu install in ONE keystroke I should know.
[11:17] <Flannel> TheGateKeeper, no.  There's a perfectly fine howto in the ubuntu wiki
[11:17] <Centaur5> Right now it's still stuck on mounting root filesystem using the live cd...still waiting
[11:17] <avagant> I'm telling you, I've reinstalled 5 times now.
[11:17] <kmaynard> avagant, thank goodness i dont have that key
[11:18] <avagant> kmaynard: Hahaha.
[11:18] <black_13> is the correct place to ask question about kubuntu?
[11:18] <sonyoandreas> Things to do: 1. quit your job.  2. go to http://www.milliondollarscience.com   3. start making some freakin' money!   4 get filthy rich within 12 months!
[11:18] <Flannel> lansing: Use the wiki guide.  It's simple, you still use package management. There's no reason not to.
[11:18] <Centaur5> That is already more than I got before.
[11:18] <host`> black_13, yes
[11:18] <lansing> wat site do i go to for breezy stuff
[11:18] <host`> er no
[11:18] <avagant> Do you have breezy?
[11:18] <host`> I don't know
[11:18] <Flannel> ompaul. ping.
[11:18] <ladydoor> black_13: if it's KDE specific, i'd go to #kubuntu, but if not here's fine
[11:18] <ompaul> ack
[11:18] <sonyoandreas> so u want to make 10 dollars right now
[11:18] <ompaul> Flannel, ack
[11:18] <ladydoor> !u
[11:18] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[11:18] <sonyoandreas> just go to million dollar science
[11:18] <Flannel> ompaul, sonyoandreas.
[11:18] <ladydoor> !advice
[11:18] <black_13> would the correct way to install mc be apt-get install mc?
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about advice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <anon32> huh.... when compiz kills my system, I'll be back
[11:18] <ompaul> k
[11:19] <ines> with what for a command can i go to the german ubuntu channel ????
[11:19] <hardkaare> hi is there any version of ffmpeg out for dapper with meg4 support(need it for gallery2)
[11:19] <avagant> Maybe I should try another wm, but I'm afraid to.
[11:19] <Flannel> ines: /join #ubuntu-de
[11:19] <avagant> I've got everything working just the way I want it.
[11:19] <ladydoor> there should really be an ubotu post explaining the difference between the word "advise" and the word "advice..."
[11:19] <hardkaare> mpeg4 even
[11:19] <ines> thx flannel
[11:19] <black_13> because im trying that and "E: Couldn't find package mc"
[11:19] <avagant> For any advice on anythin you could also go to www.ubuntuforums.org
[11:19] <ladydoor> !mc
[11:19] <avagant> =D
[11:19] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[11:19] <hardkaare> !ffmpeg
[11:19] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20050918-5ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 3835 kB, installed size 9816 kB
[11:19] <flake> is there an equivalent autoexec.bat type file
[11:19] <Flannel> lansing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-12dfa90d1580b2a1d946cc628a1c0d2bdaa5b259  for Breezy
[11:20] <ladydoor> black_13: have you enabled the universe repository?
[11:20] <overshard> well thats odd... i send an email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and it goes to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>:S
[11:20] <hardkaare> !mpeg4
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpeg4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <puff> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26360/
[11:20] <anon32> hmm, is mc better than nautilus?
[11:20] <Flannel> black_13: believe midnight commander is in universe
[11:20] <black_13> ladydoor let me see
[11:20] <ladydoor> flake: what does that do?
[11:20] <Lane> How would one make it so that only ssl connections were allowed in vsftpd, I didnt see anything in the config file, am I just missing it?
[11:20] <overshard> !postfix
[11:20] <hardkaare> !gallery
[11:20] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[11:20] <ubotu> gallery: a web-based photo album written in php. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.1-1 (dapper), package size 7209 kB, installed size 25056 kB
[11:20] <puff> Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/lvm2_2.02.02-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[11:20] <kismet_> dual boot question: can I install an OS on a secondary IDE channel drive?
[11:20] <flake> so i can run a script that will connect my wireless card when i boot up
[11:20] <puff> help?
[11:20] <Flannel> black_13: you need universe enabled
[11:20] <Flannel> kismet_: yes
[11:21] <black_13> yep i just added that to the sources.list
[11:21] <flake>  /sbin/ifup eth1     which would need to run as root
[11:21] <plasma> irc://irc.velocityirc.net/elitewarez
[11:21] <avagant> hahahaha
[11:21] <ladydoor> black_13: cool. then do sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install mc
[11:21] <avagant> lol warez.
[11:21] <kismet_> Flannel, any special tricks to get the MBR of the Primary IDE drive to work right?
[11:21] <Centaur5> Flannel: [4294671.989000]  ..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
[11:21] <black_13>  i havent used ubuntu/debian in a while
[11:21] <lansing> wats the ifo site  for breezy
[11:21] <Flannel> kismet_: it should work fine
[11:21] <anon32> plasma, wtf?
[11:21] <anon32> !warez
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <Flannel> lansing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-12dfa90d1580b2a1d946cc628a1c0d2bdaa5b259  for Breezy
[11:21] <kismet_> Flannel: thanks! If it breaks, i'm coming for you. ;)
[11:21] <lansing> thanx flannel
[11:22] <host`> I apt-geted mc just fine
[11:22] <ladydoor> black_13: yeah, it happens
[11:22] <host`> apt-got might be the correct term
[11:22] <anon32> how do I retrieve a package description with apt?
[11:22] <chinko> can anyone help me? my ubuntu installation keeps locking up on me. i tried ide=nodma, disabling USB2.0, disconnecting all my usb devices, and most of the things mentioned in the help threads, and it either hangs shortly before the agp aparture is 128mb@ such&such line, or actually on it. anyone have an idea why? im running a celeron 2ghz with a nvidia geforce FX5200 on an ASROCK P4I65GV mobo, 512 ram, 2 optical drives and two western digital drives (2
[11:22] <host`> aptitude
[11:22] <Flannel> anon32: apt-cache show [package]  or apt-cache showpkg [package]  depending on what info you want
[11:23] <ompaul> chinko, a few more at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[11:23] <Centaur5> pike_: How would I find out what command line option to do?
[11:23] <chinko> thanks, i'll read that now
[11:23] <lansing> wen iam at the index page wat java do i gat jre or bin
[11:23] <sarah> hey guys
[11:24] <sarah> got a question
[11:24] <sarah> Just installed this software:  http://www.ubuntugames.org/Tremulous
[11:24] <kakado> hardkaare, ffmpeg has for a long time had mpeg4
[11:24] <Flannel> lansing: that page says to get both, sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-06-1_i386.deb and sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb
[11:24] <sarah> and I get an error message when I start it
[11:24] <ladydoor> \me gives a cheer for women linux users!
[11:24] <sarah> seems to be an error based on OpenGL
[11:24] <sarah> but I am not sure
[11:24] <hardkaare> kakado: hmm, but it dossent work for me
[11:24] <sarah> I will paste the output to pastebin
[11:24] <overshard> .... bash "man woman" ... :S
[11:24] <lansing> ok
[11:25] <IcemanV9> hmm, is there a way I can see the list of what has been updated when i issued "aptitude update"?? something ain't right with volume control. if i remember it was libmusic something
[11:25] <overshard> no man page for woman :S
[11:25] <ines> can somebody help me to install java please
[11:25] <fdsd> hey guys, I am customizing the ubuntu livecd for my school, we are going to use it for data recovery, I have a shell script that starts on tty1, but its really annoying because dmesg messages keep interupting the script, how do I turn that off?
[11:25] <Flannel> !tell ines about java
[11:25] <overshard> !tell overshard about java
[11:25] <LjL> hm, i see this Tremulous is in edgy (even though Ubotu doesn't seem to know)
[11:25] <lansing> open with archive man or save to disk
[11:26] <Flannel> info tremulous edgy
[11:26] <ladydoor> overshard: for documentation of emacs modes, i'd check in the texinfo.
[11:26] <Flannel> !info tremulous edgy
[11:26] <ubotu> tremulous: Aliens vs Humans, team based FPS game with elements of an RTS. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0-2 (edgy), package size 1153 kB, installed size 2740 kB
[11:26] <overshard> ladydoor???? i don't us emacs
[11:26] <jokoon> Hello, I'd like to install cabextract ( http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php ) but I don't know where is the file
[11:26] <Flannel> sarah: you might try asking in #ubuntu+1, that's the edgy channel
[11:26] <flake> is there an autoexec.bat type file i can use in ubuntu
[11:26] <sarah> Here we go:
[11:26] <LjL> Flannel: ah. i was under the impression that the "edgy" wasn't needed for packages that are not in dapper
[11:26] <sarah> http://sial.org/pbot/20364?tx=on&submit=Format+it%21
[11:26] <ladydoor> overshard: oh, sorry...i thought you were talking about woman-mode (w/o man)...lol
[11:27] <sarah> Flannel: I am not on edgy
[11:27] <sarah> Flannel: I am using Dapper Drake
[11:27] <Flannel> sarah: Er... tremulous isn't in Dapper, is it?
[11:27] <fdsd> hey guys, I am customizing the ubuntu livecd for my school, we are going to use it for data recovery, I have a shell script that starts on tty1, but its really annoying because dmesg messages keep interupting the script, how do I turn that off?
[11:28] <ladydoor> fdsd: have it start you in tty2?
[11:28] <fdsd> ladydoor, cant
[11:28] <ladydoor> fdsd: oh.
[11:28] <TheGateKeeper> Flannel: this your perfectly good how to? ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[11:29] <fdsd> ladydoor, ubuntu boots into tty1
[11:29] <aFx> good morning
[11:29] <ladydoor> fdsd: right, but you can press alt+f2 to go to tty2
[11:29] <enz0h> anyone know of any install issues with the Edgy beta desktop CD?  I'm in it right now but the install to HDD app is hanging
[11:29] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[11:29] <jokoon> Does anybody how install tahoma font on ubuntu ?
[11:29] <Flannel> enz0h: #ubuntu+1
[11:29] <jokoon> +know
[11:29] <fdsd> ladydoor, this is an app for techs at my school to run, I want it simple, so booting right to my script is the only way its going to work
[11:29] <flake> if i add that /sbin/ifup eth1 to my /etc/network/interfaces, that should bring it up?
[11:29] <ladydoor> fdsd: ah, i see.
[11:30] <sarah> just got it to run with "tremulous +set r_allowSoftwareGL 1" but VERY slow - any idea how to make it run faster?
[11:30] <puff> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26361/
[11:30] <pulver> hey! is splashy working nicely with ubuntu yet?
[11:30] <ladydoor> jokoon: is it in mstcorefonts or whatever?
[11:30] <ladydoor> !msttcorefonts
[11:30] <Weber> Can someone tell me, why I can't activate sulogin?
[11:30] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[11:30] <flake> think i'll try that, i don't see why it wouldn't
[11:30] <puff> Can somebody help me?
[11:30] <jokoon> ladydoor: I have a message in the terminal "not candidate" or something like that
[11:31] <puff> I'm getting an error on dist-upgrading from breezy to dapper, and now firefox is hozed so I can't even google on the error...
[11:31] <bearcat> question: I'm using Xchat in Ubuntu.  How do I add another chatserver, specifically I want to add irc.newnet.net
[11:31] <ladydoor> jokoon: is multiverse enabled?
[11:31] <jokoon> ladydoor: Don't know
[11:31] <ladydoor> bearcat: /connect irc.newnet.net
[11:31] <Flannel> puff: pastebin your sources.list
[11:31] <Weber> Can someone tell me, why I can't activate sulogin?
[11:31] <jachyra> How do I download torrents using Ubuntu from bash? Plz help
[11:31] <bearcat> ah, ty ladydoor
[11:31] <ladydoor> jokoon: ok...read ubotu's pm in a sec
[11:31] <ladydoor> bearcat: np
[11:31] <ladydoor> !tell jokoon about repositories
[11:32] <ladydoor> jokoon: (if you don't know, it's not enabled)
[11:32] <jokoon> ok ty
[11:32] <lansing> i got both of them now ,, wat do i type in the terminal to extract them
[11:32] <puff> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26362/
[11:32] <Flannel> lansing: that page tells you exactly what to type
[11:32] <bearcat> I put irc.newnet.net in as a new chatserver, and hit connect  (that didn't work)  or do I put 'connect irc.newnet.net'  in the list of chatservers?
[11:32] <puff> I hope that's my sources.list, can't really see in firefox.
[11:32] <Flannel> Weber: have you tried the recovery console?
[11:32] <paul0> damn, i've upgraded my ubuntu to Edgy Beta, and X doesn't work anymore
[11:32] <paul0> i hate my monitor
[11:32] <Flannel> puff: use lynx
[11:33] <puff> Yeah, just did, that's them.
[11:33] <aimaz> how do you think ubuntu with xfce would run on Pentium 2 366MHz?
[11:33] <jachyra> Can someone please tell me how I can download torrents from bash? I'm new to Linux
[11:33] <fdsd> hey guys, I am customizing the ubuntu livecd for my school, we are going to use it for data recovery, I have a shell script that starts on tty1, but its really annoying because dmesg messages keep interupting the script, how do I turn that off?
[11:33] <aimaz> jachyra, look into the btdownloadcurses program
[11:33] <aimaz> i forget what package it is in
[11:34] <Weber> Flannel, No. But when I try to activate it, by command "sudo -i" and then "sudo passwd root" nothing happens.
[11:34] <jachyra> aimaz: thanks!
[11:34] <IcemanV9> aimaz: it'll run fine; much faster than gnome or kde if you're wondering
[11:34] <proudtexan> does anybody know where kernel source is stored?
[11:34] <ladydoor> jachyra: or try rtorrent or bittornado
[11:34] <ladydoor> jachyra: they're both popular.
[11:34] <pike_> aimaz: ok probably but you might try fluxbox or alternatives after the xubuntu install
[11:34] <jachyra> ladydoor: thank you!
[11:34] <ladydoor> jachyra: np
[11:34] <paul0> someone here know the right HorizSync and VertRefresh for Synmaster 3 monitors
[11:35] <ladydoor> Weber: you don't need to use sudo after sudo -i, because as root you are all-powerful :-)
[11:35] <aimaz> ok, thanks guys
[11:35] <pike_> aimaz: i use xinit instead of gdm and fluxbox on my older computer
[11:35] <boink> paul0: depends on the monitor
[11:35] <aimaz> pike_, ok
[11:35] <aimaz> any other things i could replace to speed it up a bit?
[11:35] <ricanelite> im using KDE desktop, is it possible for me to put the trash bin on the desktop?
[11:35] <boink> you should be able to get that from the documentation
[11:35] <ladydoor> Weber: however, it's not recommended to set a root password. only do it if you absolutely know what you're doing!
[11:35] <lansing> wat do i do if it installed it in to my tmp folder
[11:35] <ladydoor> !root
[11:35] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:35] <Weber> ladydoor, I know what I am doing
[11:35] <puff> Hm, I just went to try to apt-get remove/install firefox and it appears to be continuing iwth the dist-upgrade.
[11:35] <paul0> boink: Syncmaster 3
[11:36] <LjL> Weber: then out of curiosity, may i ask what you need a root account for?
[11:36] <ladydoor> Weber: cool. then the point is that after doing sudo -i you don't preface commands with sudo
[11:36] <ricanelite> how can you remove uninstall VMware?
[11:36] <Weber> LjL, because I have always be used to use su...
[11:36] <LjL> Weber: ah, good reason.
[11:37] <Weber> LjL, its non of your buisness
[11:37] <Weber> it's*
[11:37] <pike_> ricanelite: there is a vmware-uninstall.pl in /usr/bin probably
[11:37] <LjL> Weber: i just said it was a good reason.
[11:38] <Weber> ladydoor, the funny thing about this is, that if I try to use a root command, it says that I don't have the adminstration prevelgies ?
[11:38] <jvai> hey is Bastille needed for a ubuntu workstation? i dl'ed last nyte, but it seems my default setup is ok.. & Bastille wasnt needed
[11:38] <anon32> :-( glx was evil
[11:38] <ladydoor> Weber: weird. what's your bash prompt say?
[11:38] <[H] 3b0R> how do i install the kernel-source for my current kernel?
[11:38] <Weber> just a sec
[11:38] <ladydoor> Weber: (are you talking about after having done sudo -i to su to root?)
[11:38] <anon32> is there a replacement file manager for nautilus (just asking)?
[11:39] <ladydoor> anon32: there are a lot of file managers.
[11:39] <Weber> ladydoor, both
[11:39] <jordan> anon32, Yes.
[11:39] <jvai> aqnybody using Debian's Bastille?
[11:39] <puff> I really don't like using "run the dist-upgrade until it stops complaining" approach.
[11:39] <puff> Hm.
[11:39] <ladydoor> Weber: are you in the group admin? less /etc/group|grep admin
[11:39] <jordan> anon32, thor, konqueror, there are a lot of them.
[11:39] <ricanelite> i dont see it in /sr/bin
[11:39] <anon32> ok
[11:39] <Lisos> how can i mount my files of my system in the sesion of a live cd?
[11:39] <jvai> aaaaac
[11:40] <ricanelite> i dont see it in /usr/bin
[11:40] <enz0h> anyone know of any install issues with the Edgy beta desktop CD?  I'm in it right now but the install to HDD app is hanging
[11:40] <ladydoor> anon32: mc is one of the earliest but most featureful. there're bunches of graphical mc wannabes, too
[11:40] <Weber> ladydoor, command "passwd root" bash: You do not have permissions to see the password informations for root
[11:40] <anon32> Weber, did you sudo?
[11:40] <ladydoor> anon32: he's theoretically sudo -i'd
[11:40] <Weber> anon32, yes.
[11:40] <jordan> Lisos, What type of partition is it, fat32, NTFS?
[11:40] <pike_> ricanelite: try doing a locate "locate vmware-uninstall.pl"
[11:41] <ladydoor> Weber: a) what's your bash prompt say and b) what was the output of cat /etc/group|grep admin?
[11:41] <ricanelite> on terminal? please forgive me im a linux newbie
[11:41] <Lisos> jordan they ae my ubuntu files
[11:41] <anon32> Lisos - mount -t (filesystem type) (device name) /mount
[11:41] <DemisM> what do i use to view dvd's and divx files?
[11:41] <[H] 3b0R> anyone?
[11:41] <anon32> !format
[11:41] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[11:41] <patconnexion> hello ...  is ATI RADEON MOBILITY 7500 enough to install XGL ?
[11:41] <pike_> ricanelite: yeah just type that in terminal
[11:41] <jvai> totem
[11:41] <anon32> !restrictedformats
[11:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:41] <anon32> argh
[11:41] <jordan> Lisos, Is Ubuntu the only OS are your computer?
[11:41] <Weber> ladydoor, command "passwd root" bash: You do not have permissions to see the password informations for root
[11:42] <jvai> i give up
[11:42] <Lisos> i dont know what are the filesystem and device name , they are in a ubntu sesion and my user is jx0 can u comlpete please , sorry but i am nebie , anon32
[11:42] <proudtexan> Lisos: mount /dev/whichever_filesystem /mnt/whichever_mountpoint
[11:42] <ladydoor> Weber: no, what does your prompt say? i.e., what does the fixed text before you start typing say?
[11:42] <pike_> ricanelite: did you install the player through apt-get or use download the vmware installer?
[11:42] <puff> Flannel: Okay, oddly enough apt-get remove mozilla-firefox ran successfully, but firefox still runs and now runs correctly.
[11:42] <ricanelite> okay typed it in and it just goes back to ricanelite@ubuntu:~$
[11:42] <Weber> ladydoor, now Im confused.
[11:42] <Lane> Help please, How would one make it so that only ssl connections were allowed in vsftpd, I didnt see anything in the config file, am I just missing it?
[11:42] <LoRe> i've read somewhere about an apt repository containing profiled libraries, does somebody know where it is?
[11:42] <puff> Flannel: But dist-upgrade is still failing on /var/cache/apt/archives/lvm2_2.02.02-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[11:42] <ricanelite> well im talking about VMware the Virtual PC app
[11:43] <anon32> Lisos, how many partitions (drives) do you have, and what's your hard drive type?
[11:43] <pike_> ricanelite: yeah you want to uninstall it right?
[11:43] <ricanelite> yeah
[11:43] <lansing> after i install the unixodbc file it says dpkg: status database area is locked by another process wat do i do
[11:43] <ladydoor> Weber: for example, mine says door@labyrinth:~/misc/latex$
[11:43] <pike_> ricanelite: how did you install?
[11:43] <ricanelite> well i downloaded it from vmware.com
[11:43] <cbx33> hey grahamldlw
[11:43] <pike_> ricanelite: the player?
[11:43] <ricanelite> and extracted it and put in some commands in the terminal
[11:43] <Lisos> 2 partition one to windows and one for ubuntu , i want mount my ubuntu files , hda1 is the hard drive and ext3 , anon32
[11:43] <grahamldlw> if i wanna install .tar.gz files or .run files how do i do it? i downloaded some games lol
[11:44] <black_13> !kernel
[11:44] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:44] <Weber> ladydoor, /etc/group|grep admin says lpadmin:x:106:oem,nicolas admin:x:112:
[11:44] <ladydoor> grahamldlw: tar xzf for tar.gz. i don't know about .run
[11:44] <anon32> Lisos, sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 (empty directory path)
[11:44] <cbx33> grahamldlw, ahhh
[11:44] <cbx33> those gamse not available via apt-get?
[11:44] <LjL> grahamldlw: have you made sure those games are not in the repositories, to start with? if not, then 1) .tar.gz is an archive format, similar to .zip... so it just contains files. what you do with them depends on the files  2) for .bin, you can type ./filename.bin
[11:44] <grahamldlw> no i tried them and it wudent do it
[11:44] <pulver> hi, is it safe to remove usplash or will it mess up the boot process?
[11:44] <Weber> ladydoor, ahh. nothing. Im in home dir, and not as root...
[11:45] <LjL> grahamldlw: what games are those anyway?
[11:45] <Lisos> anon32 , so if i go to livecd sesion and i type sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 (empty directory path) is ready??
[11:45] <grahamldlw> btw i am a brand new user to linux/ubuntu so i dont have a clue what to do!
[11:45] <ladydoor> Weber: ok, this is a problem. you're not in the admin group, which means you don't have sudo rights. do you have an admin user account?
[11:45] <jordan> Lisos, Type `parted` then `print` and paste the output to pastebin.
[11:45] <fdsd> do you guys know if its syslogd or klogd that gives the messages to tty1?
[11:45] <anon32> Lisos, yea... make sure you replace the parenthetical with an actual directory
[11:45] <paul0> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[11:45] <Weber> ladydoor ?
[11:45] <cbx33> grahamldlw, well....it all depends what you downloaded
[11:45] <paul0> what is the right xorg driver for me
[11:45] <ladydoor> Weber: i guess not. you need to boot into single-user mode to fix this.
[11:45] <sladen> pulver: just remove 'splash' from the kernel command line
[11:45] <lansing> hey avagant can u message me for a min i need a lil assistance
[11:45] <anon32> paul0, how should I know?
[11:46] <LjL> grahamldlw: answer this first, just to make sure there isn't an easier means -- what games are those?
[11:46] <paul0> anon32: i hope, that someone who know tell me
[11:46] <sladen> paul0: you want i810, it would be automatically configured
[11:46] <nr> anyone know why ubuntu's firefox <IP_ADDRESS> would report javascript 1.4 instead of 1.5, or is this probably a problem with a website's browser check?
[11:46] <Lisos> anon32 thanks jordan u 2
[11:46] <Lisos> i will try
[11:46] <Lisos> thanks
[11:46] <paul0> sladen: yeah, but isn't working
[11:46] <Weber> ladydoor, If I didnt knew better, I would say, that I am in single-user mode.
[11:46] <pulver> sladen, but i want to install splashy which is in conflict with usplash
[11:46] <anon32> paul0, if I don't know your situation, how can I recommend files for you?
[11:46] <sladen> paul0: "what" isn't work?
[11:46] <paul0> sladen: i can get my Syncmaster 3 monitor working
[11:46] <LjL> Weber: if you were in single user mode, you'd be root, though
[11:46] <grahamldlw> free col and ta3d i think it is for the .tar.gz/tar.nz2 and for the .run its ufoai
[11:46] <sladen> paul0: right
[11:47] <ladydoor> Weber: reboot and then select ``recovery-mode''...when you're there, do nano -w /etc/group and add your username to the group admin. then reboot into normal and you should be able to use sudo. you might should write down the gist of these instructions.
[11:47] <fulat2k> hi folks, i've got 2 nic interfaces (eth0 and wlan0) on my pc.  even though i can successfully bind to my wifi network, dhclient simply refuses to get any DHCPOFFER from the router.  is there anything i missed out?  used both networkmanager and network config tools from gnome and kde.
[11:47] <gthb> is ntfs writing in edgy safe?
[11:47] <proudtexan> can anybody direct me to instructions for adding a special driver to ubuntu
[11:47] <sladen> paul0: and what monitor doesn't work?
[11:47] <paul0> sladen: i've used to make it work under xfree86's xf86cfg, but now i can't anymore
[11:47] <LjL> gthb: edgy itself is unsafe. it's a beta distro.
[11:47] <sladen> proudtexan: what "special driver" would you like to add?
[11:47] <ladydoor> Weber: it will be a fullscreen terminal, but those don't always have to be scary. it'll be fine if you do just that. and reboot is the command to reboot from the commandline
[11:47] <Weber> ladydoor, im sitting on my secondary laptop, its on the other the problem is..
[11:47] <ladydoor> !ntfs
[11:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:48] <proudtexan> for dell truemobile wlan card
[11:48] <sladen> paul0: try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure --phigh xserver-xorg
[11:48] <ladydoor> Weber: ok, cool. in that case try that and once you save your install by doing this you can try setting the root password again.
[11:48] <gthb> LjL, I'm aware of that, I was more referring to what method does edgy use to write to ntfs
[11:48] <paul0> sladen: may i send my Xorg log to you
[11:48] <paul0> sladen: i'll try
[11:48] <sladen> proudtexan: that's an Orinoco, it will work out of the box
[11:48] <THX-1138> Xineram/Twinveiw - Please paste an xorg.conf for me.
[11:48] <sladen> paul0: /topic
[11:48] <anon32> is there a way to disable file cacheing in gnomebaker? I don't have disk space to cache a DVD image
[11:48] <proudtexan> i want to use it in rfmon mode for which i need to install a patched driver
[11:48] <DemisM> how can I check if my gfx accel is working?
[11:49] <jordan> Mouseemu makes my cursor no longer useable ( can't move it ), can someone help me troubleshoot it or tell me another way to set F12 to act as a right click.
[11:49] <sladen> paul0: use the pastebin the topic
[11:49] <anon32> DemisM, let's see... drag your IRC window over the screen
[11:49] <sladen> anon32: I'm not sure, have you tried Googling?
[11:49] <anon32> sladen, meh
[11:49] <sladen> anon32: eg.  gnomebaker no cache
[11:49] <LjL> grahamldlw: for ta3d, you will need to compile.
[11:49] <ladydoor> jordan: http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison
[11:49] <grahamldlw> can anyone help with how to install some .tar.bz2 files?
[11:49] <grahamldlw> ok well i dunno how to do that so that aint happening
[11:49] <THX-1138> aon32 - dd - will write from one device to the next. - it is a hassle though.
[11:49] <bruenig> grahamldlw, what is the program?
[11:50] <THX-1138> sladen - nice tip
[11:50] <sladen> grahamldlw: tar jxvf foo.tar.bz2   or just double click on them.  What .tar.bz2 are you attempting to install?
[11:50] <anon32> THX-1138, what happens if I change the partition that the cache is on then?
[11:50] <ladydoor> grahamldlw: first extract them with tar xzf. then cd to the directory and let me know if there's a file called configure (there should be)
[11:50] <grahamldlw> ok dosent matter forget it im just gonna delete it, windows is easier
[11:50] <LjL> !compile > grahamldlw
[11:50] <grahamldlw> cheers anyway
[11:50] <jordan> ladydoor, I would like to use Gnome.
[11:50] <piratepenguin> can ubuntu not handle ATI Radeon x850 video cards (on an amd 64 cpu if that matters)?
[11:50] <ladydoor> jordan: ah. no idea then.
[11:50] <LjL> grahamldlw: have fun
[11:50] <THX-1138> anon32 - sladen had the answer for gnomebaker
[11:50] <djuuss> its not easier...
[11:50] <bruenig> grahamldlw, lol ok. Bye
[11:50] <Weber> ladydoor, sudo:x:27 is that the admin group ?
[11:50] <djuuss> ohhhh lets not start this again :(
[11:50] <ladydoor> grahamldlw: errr...lol.
[11:50] <paul0> sladen: sorry, but i don't know how to paste there since i'm using the text-mode
[11:50] <anon32> ok
[11:51] <proudtexan> sladen: i'm trying to use the card in rfmon mode which i understand requires a patched driver
[11:51] <fdsd> Hey guys, how do I have klogd and syslogd to not spit messages into tty1?
[11:51] <anon32> you know, "Google it for f***'s sake isn't a great answer
[11:51] <ladydoor> Weber: it's the one that should say admin:x:112:
[11:51] <grahamldlw> well of course u lot find it easy! u use it! im a student! hu's only ever used windows!
[11:51] <paul0> sladen: reconfiguring with -phigh didn't work
[11:51] <ladydoor> !u
[11:51] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[11:51] <bruenig> volunteers in here trying to help him install this package he wants and he refuses it
[11:51] <grahamldlw> hu only got ubuntu on here in the first place cuz i accidentlly deleted windows
[11:51] <fdsd> im offically making U a pronoun
[11:51] <sladen> paul0: what "doesn't work"  What do you see on the screen
[11:51] <ladydoor> grahamldlw: what're you trying to install? it's not that hard if you're patient
[11:51] <aimaz> grahamldlw, if you tell us what they program is we might be able to suggest an easier way
[11:52] <Weber> ladydoor, done.
[11:52] <grahamldlw> ta3d-v-0-2-1.tar.bz2
[11:52] <djuuss> grahamldlw, your a student but you cant figure out something like compiling?
[11:52] <THX-1138> anon32 - man gnomebaker isn't a great answer either. - we only want encyclopedic knowledge. - we don't have it. - yet?
[11:52] <LjL> grahamldlw: ah, well, yes, i'm sure that using something helps making it easier to use it
[11:52] <sladen> paul0: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log  and see what the last error message is related to
[11:52] <paul0> sladen: i'm getting the same problem, "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration."
[11:52] <grahamldlw> a student as in a fresher at college now a uni student
[11:52] <bruenig> accidentally deleted windows, hmmmm djuuss, thank about that last question...
[11:52] <grahamldlw> not*
[11:52] <anon32> THX-1138, ....
[11:52] <ladydoor> grahamldlw: there's a pretty set way of doing things. either you install using synaptic/adept/apt-get/aptitude,  which is generally a one-step deal, or you install from source, which can be usually up to 3 or 4 steps.
[11:52] <anon32> manpages are confusing
[11:52] <fdsd> Hey guys, how do I have klogd and syslogd to not spit messages into tty1?
[11:52] <THX-1138> anon32 - agreed.
[11:53] <sladen> paul0: can you try   sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[11:53] <bruenig> man pages aren't confusing, although I usually do command --help as that is faster
[11:53] <cpk2> reading through apt-get stuff though it looks like you can build using apt-get?
[11:53] <aimaz> grahamldlw, do you know how to open a terminal?
[11:53] <djuuss> grahamldlw, heh. I'm inclined to say some very insulting stuff, well, impulse, but other people might call it insulting. I won't
[11:53] <LjL> cpk2: you can. if there is a source package available
[11:53] <djuuss> impulsive*
[11:53] <anon32> bruenig, let's see... man gnomebaker.... gnomebaker is dev, missing features.... see also gnome... end
[11:53] <bruenig> aimaz, point and click to open something. I'm not doing that. Where is my windows cd.
[11:53] <LjL> cpk2: but then if there is a source package available, you can bet there is also the corresponding binary package
[11:54] <jordan> grahamldlw, What are you trying to install?
[11:54] <bruenig> anon32, bad man pages are bad. But man pages aren't in themselves bad.
[11:54] <aimaz> bruenig, heh
[11:54] <grahamldlw> yes i can open a terminal and only very very basically understand the sudo apt-get install and apt-cache search thing
[11:54] <sladen> cpk2: sudo apt-get build-dep foobar ; apt-get source -b foobar
[11:54] <cpk2> LjL: so its basically just for people with 64bit arch?
[11:54] <anon32> mm
[11:54] <DemisM> what xserver does ubuntu install by default?
[11:54] <anon32> foobar? it's a linux program?
[11:54] <sladen> cpk2: but you shouldn't need to have to recompile things
[11:54] <LjL> cpk2: uh, no. it's basically because there has to be a sane way of building packages
[11:54] <bruenig> xorg
[11:55] <sladen> anon32: foobar is like 'x' in mathematics.  It's a definate indefinate, replace it with the program you actually want
[11:55] <aimaz> gr33npho3nix, ok, so in the terminal use the cd command to change to the directory where you .bz2 file is
[11:55] <Weber> ladydoor, thx. It works.
[11:55] <aimaz> your*
[11:55] <anon32> oh... damn it, there's also a media player called foobar
[11:55] <aimaz> grahamldlw, even ^
[11:55] <LjL> cpk2: i mean, the guys that give you the binary packages have built it *somehow*
[11:55] <ladydoor> Weber: cool beans...so you edited it, rebooted, and now you can sudo?
[11:55] <Weber> Jep
[11:55] <jordan> grahamldlw, What are you trying to install?
[11:55] <Weber> yea
[11:55] <grahamldlw> cd command?
[11:55] <ladydoor> Weber: great!
[11:55] <sladen> DemisM: Xorg contains many video driver, the appropriate one for your video hardware is used
[11:56] <bruenig> grahamldlw, if you could give us a url of the package, I would be happy to download it and see what is necessary for you to install it
[11:56] <puff> Okay, now I'm in trouble... rebooted and now my wireless device has disappeared.
[11:56] <piratepenguin> can ubuntu not handle ATI Radeon x850 video cards (on an amd 64 cpu if that matters)?
[11:56] <puff> Hm.
[11:56] <aimaz> grahamldlw, i suggest you read a primer on linux, it's not windows, you need to learn a few things
[11:56] <grahamldlw> ta3d-v-0-2-1.tar.bz2 is what im tryin to install as this is only my second day using ubuntu or any other type of linux it makes it difficut to understand
[11:56] <puff> "SET failed on device eth1 ; No such device.
[11:56] <ricanelite> how can I check what is my harddrive space?
[11:56] <grahamldlw> see even the termonology is confusing
[11:56] <lansing> how do i search for a program thats on my computer
[11:56] <anon32> !ati
[11:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:56] <ladydoor> lansing: for the binary or for all its files?
[11:57] <sladen> LjL: you can rebuild the package 'foobar' with   sudo apt-get build-dep foobar ; apt-get source -b foobar
[11:57] <LjL> sladen: i know that
[11:57] <anon32> apt-get remvoe oooo
[11:57] <bruenig> alright grahamldlw where is it at right now? the Desktop?
[11:57] <ricanelite> how can i check my harddrive to see what type of space i have remaining?
[11:57] <grahamldlw> yes
[11:57] <jordan> !ta3d
[11:57] <ladydoor> ricanelite: df
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ta3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <ladydoor> ricanelite: just kidding. df -h
[11:58] <avagant> what's df?
[11:58] <avagant> !df
[11:58] <ubotu> Graphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T
[11:58] <avagant> Ah.
[11:58] <LjL> avagant: a command that tells you how much space you've left on the drive.
[11:58] <avagant> O RLY
[11:58] <aFx> avagant : " df " it's command
[11:58] <bruenig> grahamldlw, ok, go to Applications>Accessories>terminal
[11:58] <lansing> well i juust got both the java files i need but it keep comein up wit this error sudo dpkg -i sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb
[11:58] <lansing> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[11:58] <ricanelite> nice thank you so much!!
[11:58] <avagant> Hey I'm doing pretty good!
[11:59] <Parisi> Hello
[11:59] <avagant> Hurray for me!
[11:59] <anon32> um... I have a P4 with HT.... according to the wiki, I should use a 686 kernel... why did the install give me a 386 one?
[11:59] <grahamldlw> i already have it open
[11:59] <bruenig> grahamldlw, ok type and then press enter "cd Desktop" or copy and paste
[11:59] <black_13> !aptitude
[11:59] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[11:59] <kitche> anon32: so it works on every system by default but you can install a 686 by looking for it's package
[11:59] <sladen> lansing: sudo apt-get install java2-runtime
[11:59] <IcemanV9> hmm, is there a way I can see the list of what has been updated when i issued "sudo aptitude dist-update"?? something ain't right with volume control. if i remember it was libmusic something
[11:59] <grahamldlw> ok dont worry about it forget it, cheers
[12:00] <bruenig> lol
[12:00] <anon32> kitche, huh... will hyperthreading not work in 386? if it does, I have no reason to change
[12:00] <ladydoor> IcemanV9: so you upgraded to edgy?
[12:00] <bruenig> we are like 5 commands away from it being installed
[12:00] <grahamldlw> im not as patient as u guys by any stretch
[12:00] <IcemanV9> ladydoor: not yet .. still on dapper
[12:00] <bruenig> grahamldlw, all you are going to have to do is copy and paste
[12:00] <ladydoor> grahamldlw: well, not all installations work like that
[12:01] <aFx> what bit is i686 ?
[12:01] <lansing> ok done that this is wat i get
[12:01] <kitche> anon32: nope it won't work 386 is for older machines but all 386 really means is it's optimazed for a i386 processor
[12:01] <lansing> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:01] <grahamldlw> grahamldlw@grahamldlw-desktop:~$ cd desktop
[12:01] <grahamldlw> bash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory
[12:01] <sladen> grahamldlw: cd ; tar jzxf ~/ta3d*tar.bz2
[12:01] <ladydoor> grahamldlw: for the most part, it just involves telling the package manager what to install and then suddenly it's installed.
[12:01] <ladydoor> grahamldlw: it's capitalized
[12:01] <anon32> :-(
[12:01] <sladen> grahamldlw: cd ; tar jzxf ~/Desktop/ta3d*tar.bz2
[12:01] <dgrantwork> how do I set up a fully qualified domain name on my box, similar to this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Setup_Your_FQDN