[12:37] <NickyJ101> cablop: if you have the LTS, then it only one version behind everything else, and everything a point update (like 3.1.1 to 3.1.2)
[12:37] <anon_> Maybe a stupid question, but when I try to upgrade I get this message: "This is still a RELEASE-CANDIDATE release."
[12:37] <jxjl> good morning, I m trying new ubuntu netbook. Is there any way, how to install classic netbook interface in 10.10?
[12:37] <anon_> Is it safe to upgrade?
[12:37] <Codewolf> afternoon/morning all, just a quick question, does anyone know the status of the archives as i am getting 'unable to connect' errors to gb.archive.ubuntu
[12:37] <cablop> uLinux: depends in your 'upgrade'method
[12:37] <aeon-ltd> uLinux: yes, you only need enough for / to install
[12:38] <erUSUL> cablop: you can mitigate some of those things with a few selected ppa/backports getting "the best of both worlds?"
[12:38] <tsimpson> anon_: it's possible that the mirror hasn't been fully updated yet
[12:38] <NickyJ101> anon_: yep, let me know if you need assistance
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> jxjl:  i think there is.. but i dont use it any more..  check the package manager
[12:38] <nigelb> Codewolf: some mirrors are still syncing and may not be up-to-date
[12:38] <sam_sam> can one write a c++ program for 2 fixed platforms .. say windows vista and linux ?
[12:38] <cablop> er
[12:38] <anon_> tsimpson, Ok I see.
[12:38] <cablop> erUSUL: yep
[12:38] <uLinux> cablop: i have a separate partition for /home
[12:38] <cablop> erUSUL: but this is more like workaround
[12:38] <jpds> nigelb: No, gb.archive is slightly overloaded.
[12:38] <Codewolf> nigelb: thanks
[12:38] <erUSUL> sam_sam: use a cross platform framework? Qt claims to be one
[12:38] <maakri> @uLinux: you can keep /home and swap and just reinstall on your / partition
[12:38] <shauno> cablop: if you think a 6 month old browser is obselete, then you're probably not the target market for LTS
[12:38] <tsimpson> sam_sam: as long as you use standand C++ or a toolkit like Qt or GTK+
[12:38] <anon_> NickyJ101, thanks.
[12:39] <jpds> Codewolf: It's a bit loaded at the moment, try again in a few minutes.
[12:39] <ljsoftnet> can someone point me to the URL for boot plymouth fix?
[12:39] <uLinux> maakri: yeah that's what i want to do.. but about swap.. better to format?
[12:39] <NickyJ101> anon_: open update manager, click on settings and change distribution download from LTS to normal
[12:39] <NickyJ101> anon_: open update manager, click on settings and change distribution download from LTS to normal
[12:39] <uLinux> should i format swap area?
[12:39] <NickyJ101> anon_: open update manager, click on settings and change distribution download from LTS to normal
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> uLinux:  No newed to reformat swap if it exists
[12:39] <maakri> uLinux: yeah, if you want. makes no difference. just keep the /home partition untouched
[12:39] <uLinux> :)
[12:39] <aeon-ltd> uLinux: no need, you can use the same swap partition
[12:39] <cablop> in my opinion an LTS would be the default source of libraries to build future releases so to poprt back will be simple, also, that orce developers to bring fully finished and polished applications to LTS world and to improve them in subsequent versions
[12:39] <NickyJ101> anon_: open update manager, click on settings and change distribution download from LTS to normal
[12:39] <uLinux> ty
[12:39] <Codewolf> jpds: thought as much, was just trying to do my daily update for my testing server :P
[12:39] <ganeshran> which is the next LTS?
[12:39] <anon_> NickyJ101, I just did. thanks
[12:40] <simpleblue> is it possible to join the release party page?
[12:40] <NickyJ101> anon_: sorry for jargon, pc went a bit slow then....
[12:40] <erUSUL> !party > simpleblue
[12:40] <Codewolf> jpds: wierd thing is i'm getting a 'ping' response :P
[12:40] <simpleblue> thanks
[12:40] <Lcawte> Me upgrade keeps failing, at aroundsql things. Do I need to stop my lamp server (desktop ubuntu) first?
[12:40] <Codewolf> hence the query
[12:40] <NickyJ101> ganeshran: will be a 12.xx
[12:40] <jpds> Codewolf: ping != HTTPd.
[12:41] <sam_sam> erUSUL:,tsimpson: ty, thats exactly my Q is .. Qt can be used to make cross platform programs ?and if i have to use OS specific library/header files (eg. system.h)what are the things that are neededs to take care ?
[12:41] <Codewolf> jpds: true that
[12:41] <simpleblue> thank you so much!!!
[12:41] <simpleblue> :D
[12:41] <Gryllida> I'm on 10.04, how do I upgrade to 10.10?
[12:41] <Gryllida> Is it stable?
[12:41] <jxjl> Dr_Willis: there is only light 2D version, but not full classic UNR, is there any PPA or source upgraded (compatible) for 10.10?
[12:41] <Lcawte> Gryllida: it was released today.. You running desktop edition?
[12:41] <NickyJ101> Gryllida: open update manager, and check for updates
[12:41] <travkin> lol, it was released today, and you are asking about stability :D
[12:41] <Adam1213> in ubunutu 10.10 how do i fix the colour of the cpu  scaling monitor
[12:42] <Adam1213> its not readable atm
[12:42] <NickyJ101> Gryllida: let us know of any issues
[12:42] <erUSUL> sam_sam: you will have to ask further questions in another forum ... maybe #c++ ? or a qt channel
[12:42] <Codewolf> ooh thats a point forgot 10.10. was released today
[12:42] <NickyJ101> Gryllida: yes it is the final release so stable
[12:42] <BeatBoxBudgie> There's a spelling mistake on the 10.10 description page.
[12:43] <erUSUL> BeatBoxBudgie: #ubuntu-webpage
[12:43] <BeatBoxBudgie> thanks
[12:44] <BeatBoxBudgie> erUSUL: that room is empty :/
[12:45] <zetheroo1> what did I miss?
[12:45] <erUSUL> BeatBoxBudgie: :S
[12:46] <Codewolf> right, thanks for your help people :)
[12:46] <Adam1213> in ubunutu 10.10 how can i change the text colour of the CPU Frequency Scaling monitor on the panel  - currently the colour makes it impossible to read
[12:46]  * Codewolf out
[12:46] <uLinux> currently Disk Utility shows this "WARNING: The partition is misaligned by 1024 bytes. This may result in very poor performance. Repartitioning is suggested." it's my extended /home partition. Repartioning means i should resize it or format etc?
[12:46] <erUSUL> BeatBoxBudgie: is #ubuntu-website sorry
[12:46] <matt__> I am excited!:D
[12:46] <BeatBoxBudgie> Thanks
[12:46] <zetheroo1> is it out yet? :P
[12:46] <maakri> yes
[12:46] <matt__> not in tassie:P
[12:46] <maakri> it has been for a while
[12:46] <erUSUL> uLinux: recreate the partition ( maybe moving it in gparted does the trick really dunno)
[12:47] <zetheroo1> maakri: yeah ... just teasin'
[12:47] <matt__> Surely it hasnt properly been released yet
[12:47] <maakri> lol
[12:47] <maakri> cool
[12:47] <zxd> hi
[12:47] <zxd> hi
[12:47] <KeithWeisshar> why isn't there a dvd iso for ubuntu 10.10?
[12:47] <maakri> uLinux:  but make sure you backup you /home before you try resizing
[12:47] <matt__> there is
[12:47] <zetheroo1> KeithWeisshar: it's not that big
[12:47] <matt__> i have link
[12:47] <zetheroo1> !?
[12:47] <zxd> do nfs options in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf  work with nfs4?
[12:47] <Gryllida>  < Gryllida> I'm on 10.04, how do I upgrade to 10.10?  < NickyJ101> Gryllida: open update manager, and check for updates <- I just did, restarted, still on 10.04
[12:48] <Gryllida> ...
[12:48] <Adam1213> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-applets/+bug/640153 :(
[12:48] <Gryllida> Lcawte, yes I am running desktop edition
[12:48] <KeithWeisshar> is the wubi installer compatible with windows 7
[12:48] <aldin> what is keyboard combination for printing specific windows, "Alt + Prt Scr" doesnt work
[12:48] <zebrac> coz its only aprrox. 693 mb. apps package were not included unlike ultimate edition.
[12:48] <sam_sam> erUSUL:ty :) .. one more question ..maybe will be asked there too .. i get an error while compiling a simple program (= "hello world" ) >>"No valid Qt version set. Set one in Tools/Options " when i checked there, there was "autodetect " like option and not like qt3/qt4 .. how do i fix ?
[12:48] <matt__> It obviously hasnt been uploaded to DM yet
[12:48] <hid3> Gryllida: maybe you need update-manager -d?
[12:48] <KeithWeisshar> windows 7 has a hidden system reserved partition?
[12:48] <erUSUL> uLinux: resizing wont help becouse that wont move the beggining of the partition
[12:48] <cupis> Gryllida, run update-manager, change the settings to allow non-LTS version, then close and run update-manager -d
[12:48] <maakri> is there any performance loss if i run a 32 bit os on a 64 bit arch. ??????
[12:48] <Gryllida> hid3: yes! doing.
[12:49] <Gryllida> = Welcome to the Ubuntu 'Maverick Meerkat' development release =
[12:49] <Gryllida> ***
[12:49] <Gryllida> This is still a RELEASE-CANDIDATE release.
[12:49] <chrissharp123> Gryllida: 10.04 should not automatically prompt to upgrade - it's an LTS
[12:49] <Gryllida> Do not install it on production machines.
[12:49] <Gryllida> ?
[12:49] <FloodBot1> Gryllida: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:49] <KeithWeisshar> i have 12gb of ram, do i need the 64-bit version?
[12:49] <erUSUL> maakri: depends on the app
[12:49] <Gryllida> is it stable?
[12:49] <erUSUL> KeithWeisshar: yes
[12:49] <ewook> maakri: for sure, you don't gain anything at least.
[12:49] <erUSUL> sam_sam: really dunno; again ask in a qt channel
[12:49] <chrissharp123> Gryllida: if stability is your main concern, stick with what you have, then upgrade in a month or so (IMHO)
[12:49] <maakri> erUSUL: im talking about the OS itself. will the OS be laggy?
[12:49] <hid3> hours ago it becamestable
[12:50] <erUSUL> maakri: no
[12:50] <sam_sam> erUSUL:ok ty
[12:50] <matt__> erusul
[12:50] <cupis> Gryllida, it is released today and is stable, but it is not a "Long Term Support" version, so "only" 18 months of support
[12:50] <matt__> no it wont
[12:50] <maakri> ok cool
[12:50] <maakri> thanks
[12:50] <KeithWeisshar> do you have a link to known issues?
[12:50] <aldin> what is keyboard combination for "Make a screenshot of current window.", "Alt + Print Screen" doesnt work anymore
[12:50] <uLinux> maakri: i wont to anything i dont see/feel any problem with my HDD
[12:51] <bekks> It works for me.
[12:51] <Gryllida> cupis: is it stable?
[12:51] <uLinux> erUSUL: but if i delete the other partitions they could align with /home partition?
[12:51] <erUSUL> uLinux: aligning partitions is important for performance in raid lvm set ups
[12:51] <Gryllida> as in, what is the official latest stable version here now?
[12:52] <erUSUL> uLinux: if it is a normal partition i would not bother
[12:52] <VampiricPadraig> yes Gryllida
[12:52] <uLinux> erUSUL: yeah it is
[12:52] <NickyJ101> ok am back after short network issue, any issues with trying to download / update?
[12:52] <Gryllida> ok
[12:52] <VampiricPadraig> 10.10 is stable
[12:52] <Tanvir> Hello I'm upgrading lucid to maverick now, will it cause any loss of my data on home folder?
[12:53] <perlsyntax> 10.10 is out yes!!
[12:53] <chrissharp123> KeithWeisshar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/ReleaseNotes#Known Issues
[12:53] <travkin> Tanvir, no
[12:53] <magnetron> Tanvir: depends on how you install it
[12:53] <chrissharp123> Tanvir: you should always back up before upgrading
[12:53] <ugliefrog> in just a few moments i will be installing a frsh 10.10 as soon as cd finishes burning
[12:54] <NickyJ101> Tanvir: if you do it via update manager then no
[12:54] <Tanvir> magnetron, My home folder is not in another drive.
[12:54] <magnetron> Tanvir: how will you upgrade?
[12:54] <Tanvir> NickyJ101, yes, I'm downloading via upgrade manager.
[12:54] <uLinux> erUSUL: when i installed i chose swap size first then root then home all extended. is this ok?
[12:54] <maakri> Tanvir: then its fine
[12:55] <Tanvir> It said new version is available and I click on upgrade.
[12:55] <aftertaf> !broadcom
[12:55] <magnetron> Tanvir: then it will keep the home partition and your personal application settings.
[12:55] <erUSUL> uLinux: yes
[12:55] <_kroson_> Tanvir: you wont loose your data :)
[12:55] <aldin> (01:50:45 PM) aldin: what is keyboard combination for "Make a screenshot of current window.", "Alt + Print Screen" doesnt work anymore
[12:55] <aldin> for those interested you have to make it yourself, it seems imposible to have Alt + Print, if you set some other combination it works... looks like bug to me :)
[12:56] <maakri> !join
[12:56] <Tanvir> Oh, I am then safe now. I hoped so, so I took the risk. Now I know, it's not a risk. :)
[12:56] <TiK> I love ubuntu
[12:56] <NickyJ101> Tanvir: yep it fine that way, only issue is if you did it via a cd
[12:56] <NickyJ101> TiK: welcome to the club
[12:56] <TiK> ive been running 10.10 for months
[12:56] <TiK> :D
[12:57] <coz_> hey guys... anyone know if the maverick minimal cd is  available yet?
[12:57] <NickyJ101> wow these servers are getting busy
[12:57] <hid3> All CDs are availavle YET
[12:57] <jpds> NickyJ101: Yes, they are doing their job.
[12:57] <Slick0201> NickyJ101, the download servers?
[12:57] <TiK> coz: and you can't check because...?
[12:57] <NickyJ101> coz_: not sure, normally they are an added extra and the last iso to be built
[12:57] <Tanvir> Thanks to all of you. Wish all the best.
[12:58] <coz_> NickyJ101,  yeah I cant find it any where yet
[12:58] <NickyJ101> slick0201: yep for the update manager, oddly the raw iso servers not looking too strained
[12:58] <jumr> 爽死来
[12:58] <Gryllida> !zh
[12:58] <Gryllida> !jp
[12:58] <Slick0201> NickyJ101, well, they prepare for this sort of thing... they're gonna get hammered for the next 4-5 days
[12:58] <Gryllida> http://s2.kimag.es/share/10589115.png aren't any longer available if I update from 10.04 to 10.10, should I?
[12:58] <NickyJ101> anyone having any issues downloading or updating to 10.10
[12:58] <Gryllida> NickyJ101: ^^^^
[12:58] <Gryllida> LOL
[12:59] <NickyJ101> Slick0201: I know, have been helping out a little bit
[12:59] <Gryllida> these are mine
[12:59] <uLinux> what's the purpose of making a /boot partition?
[12:59] <uLinux> for boot
[12:59] <jpds> coz_: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[12:59] <aeon-ltd> uLinux: to store grub
[12:59] <hid3> I like keeping everything in / , making separate partitions as /data and/or /backups
[13:00] <NickyJ101> Gryllida: they have mostly been incorporated into other packages, you should be able to request it not to delete them at the end
[13:00] <hid3> depends on the type of the system I'm setting up
[13:00] <coz_> jpds,   yeah but that is  64 bit
[13:00] <jpds> coz_: installer-i386 ?
[13:00] <hid3> ;-)
[13:00] <yassine> hi everyone
[13:00] <teleri> how do i add icons to 10.10's luncher?
[13:00] <NickyJ101> jpds: the link you gave was for a 64bit version, not the 32bit (i386)
[13:00] <aeon-ltd> hid3: meh i'd say for ubuntu, given its set release schedule, to just have / /home /swap partitions, just if anything goes wrong its easier to wipe / and fresh install
[13:00] <asdcaiod> How do you install java?
[13:01] <jpds> NickyJ101: Read my message, after that.
[13:01] <asdcaiod> Under ubuntu 10.04?
[13:01] <coz_> jpds  yes  I would like to use the minimal 32 bit
[13:01] <aeon-ltd> !java | asdcaiod
[13:01] <Adam1213> asdcaiod: iced tea
[13:01] <chrissharp123> NickyJ101: you can use an alternative mirror to download: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#mirrors
[13:01] <jpds> coz_: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[13:01] <NickyJ101> jpds: right, no have not seen one yet
[13:01] <hid3> Use my mirror, mine is almost idling ;-)
[13:01] <uLinux> this means i started installing with a Logical partition right  /dev/sda1   *           1      121602   976760833    5  Extended
[13:01] <KeithWeisshar> are there more packages in the dvd version of ubuntu
[13:01] <teleri> how do i add icons to 10.10's luncher?
[13:01] <coz_> I believe the partner repositories have sun java on maverick at lest  it did last week
[13:01] <teleri> how do i add icons to 10.10's launcher?
[13:01] <NickyJ101> chrissharp123: download going fine now, got it on 2/3, just third is queueing like all others, prefer not using cd's if i can help it
[13:02] <jforman> hi all. i am trying to install 10.10 via usb stick. i create the install disk using the 'startup disk creator' in my already running 10.04 box and when trying to boot the usb key get "error in configuration file" from syslinux. is there something wrong i am doing here?
[13:02] <chrissharp123> NickyJ101: great
[13:02] <uLinux> "Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary"
[13:02] <moetunes> KeithWeisshar:  no - just language packs
[13:02] <NickyJ101> chrissharp123: sorry, 2nd of 3rd pc
[13:02] <asdcaiod> !java
[13:02] <chrissharp123> NickyJ101: rock on!
[13:02] <henrik__> i upgraded my ubuntu 10.04 server to ubuntu server 10.10 by the sudo do-release-upgrade. after the installation is done my system after reboot everytime says that a system reboot is required?
[13:02] <aeon-ltd> 1/part
[13:02] <KeithWeisshar> does the dvd version include desktop, server and text-mode on one disc
[13:03] <chrissharp123> KeithWeisshar: "Don't be confused, even though DVDs can hold far more data than the typical Ubuntu CD, the main benefit of the DVD downloads is to get access to all of the available language packs"
[13:04] <chrissharp123> KeithWeisshar: from http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#dvd
[13:04] <KeithWeisshar> can ubuintu be installed to a usb flash drive
[13:04] <henrik__> KeithWeisshar: yes
[13:04] <Alan> Hmmm, the installer is consistently failing for me :(
[13:05] <Alan> I've checked the MD5SUM of the CD image
[13:05] <KeithWeisshar> can the usb flash drive only have one partition
[13:05] <chrissharp123> Alan: error messages?
[13:05] <NickyJ101> KeithWeisshar: just more language, and yes it can be on usb
[13:05] <Alan> I've used the USB startup disk creator in ubuntu Lucid to put it on USB drive
[13:05] <Adam1213> KeithWeisshar: yes
[13:05] <NickyJ101> KeithWeissahr: why do you need more than one usb partition?
[13:05] <KeithWeisshar> one for swap
[13:05] <coz_> KeithWeisshar,  the minimal install cd ... has all of the ubuntu versions...server...kubuntu  edubuntu etc etc  ...it simply downloads the files during install instead of having them on the cd /dvd
[13:05] <Alan> chrissharp123: [Errno5] Input/output error "... blah blah often due to faulty disk blah..."
[13:06] <NickyJ101> Alan: you trying to install via CD?
[13:06] <Alan> NickyJ101: no, USB, the machine doesn't have a CD drive
[13:06] <KeithWeisshar> where is the minimal install cd that has all ubuntu versions
[13:06] <KeithWeisshar> and downloads them during install
[13:06] <NickyJ101> Alan: does your BIOS support USB boot?
[13:07] <matt__> I want it!
[13:07] <matt__> I wish they would jsut get it to me for cryin gout loud lol
[13:07] <Alan> NickyJ101: yes, every other OS i've installed on this machine has been using USB
[13:07] <Adam1213> Alan try again / check your usb
[13:07] <Alan> NickyJ101: it's not the machine for certain, it may be the USB drive (i'm going to try another one)
[13:07] <Adam1213> maybe your usb is now screwed
[13:07] <KeithWeisshar> coz, do you have a link to the minimal install cd that has all of the ubuntu versions?
[13:08] <weeman> Trying to install 10+ distros on HD each booted by Grub1  title Empty @ hda1 chainloader (hd0,0)+1  and so on. Problem "Error 1: Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist"
[13:08] <chrissharp123> Alan: agreeing with Adam1213 - sounds like a bad USB
[13:09] <weeman> I am following the JustLinux Saikee tutorial are newer distros broken for grub1 ?
[13:09] <NickyJ101> alan: ok.
[13:09] <maurer_1> weeman: Curiosity, why are you using grub1?
[13:09] <yassine> hi folks, my HP laptop does not reconize the ac adaptor when pluged in what could be the reason?
[13:09] <Alan> chrissharp123: yeah, that's surprising, i've done many linux and windows installs off this USB drive...
[13:09] <nebula_>  10.10 release show up as an update in "software updates" of my ubuntu install
[13:09] <nebula_> ?
[13:10] <chrissharp123> KeithWeisshar: scroll up :-) - 07:59 < jpds> coz_: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[13:10] <NickyJ101> alan: try formatting your usb before putting os on it to help clear errors
[13:10] <Adam1213> yassine: cord not in enough
[13:10] <Adam1213> bios
[13:10] <Alan> NickyJ101: i always do
[13:10] <ashiswin> i cant seem to upgrade my ubuntu from 10.04 to 10.10
[13:10] <helpy> hello
[13:10] <ashiswin> it always dies when its calculating changes when setting software channels
[13:10] <NickyJ101> yassine: does your pc show any signs of charging, or is it just ubuntu
[13:10] <helpy> i have ubuntu 10.04 and i cant connect to wpa or wpa2 network
[13:10] <yassine> Adam1213, it is
[13:10] <coz_> ashiswin,   in terminal   sudo update-manager -d   << yes?
[13:10] <NickyJ101> alan: hmm, you put USB launcher on through Lucid yes?
[13:10] <Alan> NickyJ101: yeah
[13:10] <taomaster> hey i have 10.10 rc  do i need to reinstall 4 today's release?
[13:10] <helpy> i have tried all forums and apparently no one has the solution for it
[13:10] <erUSUL> helpy: what wifi chip ?
[13:11] <ashiswin> no coz_ i i use the normal update manager
[13:11] <helpy> b43 4401 i think
[13:11] <maurer_1> coz_, ashiswin: Shouldn't be necessary any more, as 10.10 is released now.
[13:11] <Guest11367> can someone help me i cant get my microphone working with flash apps
[13:11] <helpy> will check again erUSUL
[13:11] <NickyJ101> yassine: your internal psu might be fried, happened to mine, contact manufacturer
[13:11] <ashiswin> i just open update manager
[13:11] <helpy> bcm 4311
[13:11] <yassine> NickyJ101, nothing under ubuntu but in win* its showing all the progress of charging
[13:11] <ashiswin> and run it
[13:11] <smoo> taomaster, no, you dont need to
[13:11] <ashiswin> but it doesnt work
[13:11] <coz_> maurer_1,  which shouldnt be necessary?
[13:11] <maurer_1> coz_: Running with -d, or running it manuall
[13:11] <maurer_1> *manually
[13:11] <chrissharp123> helpy: have you installed 'bcmwl-kernel-source'?
[13:11] <NickyJ101> yassine: ok, but your pc does charge under ubuntu, just ubuntu not reporting it charging
[13:11] <erUSUL> helpy: « sudo aptitude install b43-fwcutter » while connected to internet via wire. then reboot
[13:11] <yassine> NickyJ101, i have a dv7 what is the psq ?
[13:12] <maurer_1> -d is only required before the next deal is released.
[13:12] <taomaster> ok thanks smoo
[13:12] <coz_> maurer_1,  are you saying update manager will list the upgrade?? let me check here
[13:12] <helpy> ofcourse. wifi is working with unsecure networks
[13:12] <yassine> NickyJ101, correct
[13:12] <chrissharp123> helpy: listen to erUSUL :-)
[13:12] <smoo> taomaster, just try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:12] <NickyJ101> alan: not too sure really, could be a usb issue, you don't have a USB CD drive?
[13:12] <helpy> i have installed it erUSUL
[13:12] <dca> can someone help me i cant get my microphone working with flash apps
[13:12] <helpy> my wifi IS working.
[13:12] <helpy> its just it cant connect to wpa networks
[13:12] <helpy> in university without security it works fine
[13:12] <NickyJ101> yassine: ok, not too sure, I'm helping with download issues, look at forums or post a bug in launchpad
[13:12] <Alan> NickyJ101: no, i don't have a USB CD drive
[13:12] <Kosonome> helpy, you have a router?
[13:13] <helpy> at home yea
[13:13] <NickyJ101> dca: right click on Flash app, then click properties
[13:13] <helpy> dlink
[13:13] <NickyJ101> Alan: haha, would be wishful, ok.
[13:13] <chrissharp123> taomaster: smoo - sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will not install the new release - it just upgrades all packages
[13:13] <ashiswin> i'm trying a manual apdate
[13:13] <Alan> NickyJ101: yeah, this is going to pretty annoying if USB installs don't actually work...
[13:13] <gianni> ho un problema con l'installazione del microfono della webcam...ho ubuntu 10.04 e la webcan è microsoft
[13:13] <smoo> chrissharp123, he's using the rc, so he just needs latest patches
[13:13] <erUSUL> !it | gianni
[13:13] <azm> please how is called stock bittorrent client in ubuntu ?
[13:13] <chrissharp123> smoo: ah - my mistake :-)
[13:13] <Slick0201> azm, transmission
[13:14] <erUSUL> azm: transmission
[13:14] <cupis> azm, transmission
[13:14] <NickyJ101> Alan: they should work, since USB launch is same files as cd, just extracted and stored with extra autorun and boot files
[13:14] <Kosonome> try setting wpa2 there, with both tkip and aes
[13:14] <azm> thank you all :)
[13:14]  * erUSUL wins
[13:14] <TiK> chrissharp123: you need the -d optioni think
[13:14] <arturaz> hello. How do I add a dir to system path?
[13:14] <helpy> any ideas ?
[13:14] <NickyJ101> alan: you trying to get 32bit desktop I assume?
[13:14] <Kosonome> helpy, try setting wpa2 with both tkip and aes
[13:14] <chrissharp123> TiK: yep
[13:14] <taomaster> smoo i guess i'm ok nothing happened
[13:14] <Alan> NickyJ101: yeah, that's what I thought...  since nobody knows of any issues here i'm going to first assume that my cheapo USB drive is screwed
[13:14] <helpy> now what is that
[13:14] <dca> nicky101: done
[13:14] <erUSUL> chrissharp123: make sure you have normal in System>Admin>Software sources... third tab ( updates ) and not LTs only
[13:14] <Alan> NickyJ101: 64-bit desktop
[13:14] <NickyJ101> Please note, UK servers are very high at the moment
[13:15] <ikonia> NickyJ101: do you have access to their bandwidth stats ?
[13:15] <NickyJ101> Alan: it might have had enough of os transfers on it, they do stop
[13:15] <Kosonome> helpy: ways of ciphers i guess :P
[13:15] <uLinux> nice keyboard bug during install :)
[13:15] <NickyJ101> ikonia: i get service messages telling me of issues
[13:15] <helpy> on it Kosonome. stay tuned :)
[13:15] <chrissharp123> erUSUL: I'm not trying to install :-) - I was trying to help smoo and taomaster and misunderstood the question
[13:15] <drcooper> arturaz PATH=$PATH:/path/to/foldertobeadded
[13:15] <ikonia> NickyJ101: from where?
[13:15] <ikonia> NickyJ101: where are you getting an issue to tell you the UK servers are under load
[13:15] <helpy> but that isnt the problem
[13:15] <arturaz> drcooper, yeah, but in what file?
[13:15] <NickyJ101> dca: good, some places ok, but loads in UK are high
[13:15] <helpy> it should connect to wpa
[13:15] <Alan> NickyJ101: I haven't had it that long, i know that flash drives get unrecoverable errors eventually because that's the way flash is, but i've not done anywhere near enough writes for that to be the case
[13:16] <GregValheru> uLinux, what happens with the keyboard?
[13:16] <drcooper> add it to .bashrc
[13:16] <NickyJ101> ikonia: A friend of mine who is on task team in us
[13:16] <drcooper> in ur home folder
[13:16] <arturaz> drcooper, i need it system wide
[13:16] <uLinux> GregValheru: i selected Portugal but it's showing Turksh
[13:16] <uLinux> Turkish
[13:16] <Kosonome> helpy: you have some strange character in your password? :P
[13:16] <GregValheru> dang
[13:16] <ikonia> NickyJ101: who ?
[13:16] <drcooper> but only when u are logged in right
[13:16] <drcooper> ?
[13:16] <Kosonome> helpy: last time, that killed me
[13:16] <helpy> not at home
[13:16] <helpy> at a friends place we have this swedish ä
[13:17] <helpy> but since i can write it, it should work on network also
[13:17] <drcooper> azturaz if all users need that then add to /etc/bashrc
[13:17] <NickyJ101> Alan: yeah, my personal choice is to always get a usb cd drive, or to get something more robust. A friend of mine got a 4GB CF drive a while ago with no issues as they are more stable
[13:17] <helpy> it basically keeps trying to connect and in the end says cant connect
[13:17] <brad_> hey, i'm about to install 1010 :-), so i'm going to move all my ext4 files over to an ntfs formated external usb disk, and then bring them back to ext4, should i be worried?
[13:17] <drcooper> azturaz if only for u then add to home>.basrc
[13:17] <drcooper> bashrc
[13:17] <chrissharp123> brad_: that's the way I do it :-)
[13:17] <Alan> NickyJ101: but a USB CD drive is bulky and of limited use
[13:17] <uLinux> damn keyboard bug
[13:18] <chrissharp123> brad_: the files don't know that they were created on ext4 or NTFS, so it's all good
[13:18] <Kosonome> helpy: not sure then, i'm just new to ubuntu :P
[13:18] <Alan> NickyJ101: pretty much the only thing i use CDs for is OS installs, and even then I don't any more
[13:18] <NickyJ101> Alan: only uses to install onto his office netbook pc's and is robust it can survive multiple os writes
[13:18] <Kosonome> helpy: wi-fi is working fine here
[13:18] <dadrc> I'm trying to write a udev rule for my logitech headset, the one I've got (http://pastey.net/141380) works with udevadm test, but doesn't do anything with the real thing... any hints?
[13:19] <ikonia> NickyJ101: please check your private message window
[13:19] <ganeshran> man the download is taking forever
[13:19] <ganeshran> :(
[13:19] <POVaddct> chrissharp123: but permissions and special will not be preserved
[13:19] <dca> nickyj101: i have tried to fix it in the settings but i couldnt
[13:19] <Slick0201> helpy, are you using 32 or 64bit?
[13:19] <uLinux> omg im stucked on keyboard settings
[13:19] <uLinux> during install
[13:19] <smoo> ganeshran, you should consider downloading via bit torrent
[13:19] <POVaddct> chrissharp123: *special files
[13:19] <Slick0201> the torrents are flying
[13:20] <NickyJ101> ikonia: why does it matter
[13:20] <NickyJ101> dca: what is the problem?
[13:20] <ikonia> NickyJ101: because your making statements and I'm asking you who is giving you official information about the UK mirrors
[13:20] <Kosonome> people, i just installed with a DVD with ubuntu 10.04, i just need to update ubuntu to get 10.10?
[13:20] <dca> my microphone doesnt works with flash apps
[13:20] <jrib> !upgrade | Kosonome
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> Kosonome:  i would wait a few days and update. servers are going to be slow now.
[13:20] <Kosonome> thanks :)
[13:21] <uLinux> Ready when you are
[13:21] <chrissharp123> POVaddct: mmm - good point - I have had some permission-related issues around that before...
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> Kosonome:  you Could download a 10.10 iso via torrents if you wanted to.
[13:21] <uLinux> stucked on "Ready when you are"
[13:21] <NickyJ101> ikonia: look, I just give advice, someone tipped me that the UK servers were looking high from the Oxford server base, not sure who, does it really matter that much?
[13:21] <olafur> The torrent is dl-ing really fast
[13:21] <helpy> 32 bit slick
[13:21] <uLinux> no Back or Foward button
[13:21] <ikonia> NickyJ101: yes as if it's not official information please don't pass it out
[13:21] <Kosonome> since its slow, i'll wait like Dr_Willis said
[13:21] <ganeshran> olafur: what speed is it downloading?
[13:21] <Kosonome> thanks for the info people
[13:22] <NickyJ101> ikonia: and to be honest, i bet it is in high load as are most servers during any major release
[13:22] <POVaddct> chrissharp123: another way would be to store the files in a tarball on the ntfs disk
[13:22] <ikonia> NickyJ101: yes, I'm sure it is, but as I said, if it's not official please don't pass it out as fact
[13:22] <Kosonome> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes : They don't have upgrade to 10.04 to 10.10. :O
[13:22] <chrissharp123> POVaddct: I think that's what I'll do when I get ready to upgrade next time
[13:23] <Alan> wow, ok, that's impressive - trying to do a USB installer that time completely broke disk IO
[13:23] <helpy> its really weird that i can connect on windows with wpa2 but not on linux
[13:23] <chrissharp123> Alan: different USB? or the same one?
[13:23] <NickyJ101> dca: ok, have you tried right clicking on the flash app, bring up settings?
[13:23] <helpy> what was the command for firmware update again ?
[13:23] <Dreaman> os[Linux 2.6.35-22-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "maverick" 10.10] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 7750 Dual-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 2.70GHz] mem[Physical: 3.9GB, 82.9% free] disk[Total: 591.0GB, 33.4% free] video[ATI Technologies Inc RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia1: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI]
[13:23] <NickyJ101> alan: how did you find that out, does the disk no longer work at all?
[13:23] <Dreaman> :P
[13:23] <rainingsky> hello everyone.good morning.
[13:23] <erUSUL> helpy: try installing linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic
[13:24] <erUSUL> helpy: newer driver may help
[13:24] <Stealth_> Hmm. My computer is slightly buggy and does not like being left on for to long. I have a 17 hour gparted operation left on my external HDD. Question is, is there any way I can suspend or reset the computer without damaging the external HDD?
[13:24] <jrib> Kosonome: you should be able to upgrade with update manager (it should offer you an option for a new release)
[13:24] <helpy> i have installed it already erSUL
[13:24] <dca> nickyj101: yes i have
[13:24] <rainingsky> in fact i am at night now.
[13:24] <helpy> i have read all forums before i asked
[13:24] <Stealth_> Because I doub its going to last for 17 more hours at all
[13:24] <ganeshran> I should have waited for a couple of days before upgrading :(
[13:24] <Kosonome> jrib: thanks ;3
[13:24] <Raydiation> can anone link the torrent file here? the server is too slow atm
[13:24] <helpy> does it require a restart to work ?
[13:24] <helpy> because thats what i didnt do
[13:24] <NickyJ101> dca: does your soundcard currently work in ubuntu?
[13:24] <jrib> !torrents | Raydiation
[13:24] <Sethpalmo> Hello all! :)
[13:24] <erUSUL> helpy: yes; that or reload the modules---
[13:25] <NickyJ101> Raydiation: alot will be as people leach instead of seed
[13:25] <helpy> like disabling and enabling network ?
[13:25] <erUSUL> helpy: sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb && sudo modprobe b43
[13:25] <Sethpalmo> I got a problem with Ubuntu 10.04 when installing. I booted from a USB key, and there is no disc or partitions on step 4 of installation. :/
[13:25] <ganeshran> guys will ubuntu work well on a asus eeepc?
[13:25] <dca> i think yes, my mic works fine with other applications
[13:25] <NickyJ101> ok giving my 3rd pc a 3rd attempt at getting 10.10
[13:25] <Friar> how can I check the md5 sum of a 10.10 torrent? I want to make sure that I got it correctly.
[13:25] <Krystyano> ki per storia cyber credibile? solo esperti e amanti dei dettagli
[13:25] <helpy> FATAL: Module ssb is in use
[13:25] <Sethpalmo> Have you any clue to allow me continuing the installation?
[13:25] <uLinux> how can i report a bug
[13:26] <chrissharp123> ganeshran: should be fine - use the netbook edition
[13:26] <erUSUL> Friar: torrent clients already use "strong" checksumming ...
[13:26] <erUSUL> !md5 | Friar but anyway
[13:26] <Alan> chrissharp123: different USB drive
[13:26] <chrissharp123> !it | Krystyano
[13:26] <NickyJ101> uLinux: the ubuntu launchpad
[13:26] <ganeshran> chrissharp123: Ok will do.
[13:26] <olafur> up to 400 KB/s
[13:26] <olafur> on my slow internet connection
[13:26] <mattcodes> newb question, how much does a default ubuntu 10 desktop install stick to a hardware profile, if I just took the partition from a HP desktop and dd it on to a Dell laptop (along with setting up grub) it should just work? or is it anal about hardware and the holds onto the intial probing to dear death
[13:26] <Alan> NickyJ101: erm, well, USB disk creator was on "finishing" and no other requests from my hard drive were getting fulfilled at all
[13:26] <chrissharp123> Alan: are you sure your PC's HDD is in good working order?
[13:26] <Raydiation> NickyJ101: ty
[13:27] <Friar> thanks erUSUL, so it is most likely already fine because torrents check all the packages and make sure that they are complete?
[13:27] <Kosonome> anyone have some experiencie with http://www.playonlinux.com/  to play? it's recommended use it, or it's better goes with cedega? :O
[13:27] <Alan> chrissharp123: certain
[13:27] <olafur> steady at 400 it's been ... finishing now in a total 15 mins
[13:27] <Alan> chrissharp123: also, the CD image is on a network drive, not on this machine
[13:27] <ikonia> mattcodes: should work, things like video cards can be fussy, keep in mind if you dd it you dd the partition table too and you could lose disk space
[13:27] <NickyJ101> Alan: ahh, yes, IO looking dead
[13:27] <Tdude> Anyone know if the 10.10 release supports the USB stick boot?
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> mattcodes:  ive moved installs from one brand laptopp. to a radically newer/mondern laptop.. with no issues.. the video card and the wireless card drivers would proberly be the biggesdt stumbling points
[13:27] <Alan> chrissharp123: and i've already MD5SUM'd the disk image to make sure it's correct
[13:27] <maurer_1> mattcodes: Should work.
[13:27] <ganeshran> One file is taking way too long to download.
[13:27] <helpy> did that
[13:27] <helpy> still not working
[13:27] <chrissharp123> Alan: this definitely sounds like a hardware issue
[13:27] <NickyJ101> Alan: at least USB keys these days are quite cheap
[13:27] <maurer_1> mattcodes: All drivers other than vidcard are default installed into the module ramdisk
[13:27] <chrissharp123> Alan: do you have more than one USB port?
[13:28] <POVaddct> NickyJ101: and quite crappy
[13:28] <NickyJ101> Tdude: why, you having issues?
[13:28] <maurer_1> mattcodes: And there will be _something_ there for vidcard, just perhaps not the accelerated one
[13:28] <Alan> chrissharp123: already tried different USB ports
[13:28] <mattcodes> sweet... this makes backups nice.. backup up the raw image.. if PC is stolen (i live in thailand - has happened before) and I just go supermarket and take right off from backup
[13:28] <NickyJ101> POVaddict: what is crappy
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> mattcodes:  one potential issue could be if the old pc used an older version of the nvidia drivers. that dident work with anewer nvidia card..
[13:28] <chrissharp123> Alan: I figured - sounds like you're pretty experienced with all that :-)
[13:28] <NickyJ101> POVaddct: what is crappy
[13:28] <WXZ> is there a terminal command
[13:28] <mattcodes> I can deal with reconfiguring nvidia/amd
[13:28] <WXZ> to check the # of installed packages?
[13:28] <POVaddct> NickyJ101: bad quality
[13:28] <mattcodes> thanks
[13:29] <NickyJ101> povaddct: what is bad quality
[13:29] <Alan> chrissharp123: the main reason I even started asking in here is just to see if tehre was a known issue
[13:29] <uLinux> NickyJ101: http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9505/keyboardlayoutbugmaveri.png
[13:29] <Kuba> where is the party?
[13:29] <chrissharp123> WXZ: dkpg -l | grep -c ii
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> NickyJ101:  and how do you even measuer  the quality. :)
[13:29] <Tdude> Guys
[13:29] <moetunes> WXZ:  you could try   dpkg -l | wc -l
[13:29] <maurer_1> WXZ:  dpkg -l | awk '{print $1}' | grep -c ii
[13:29] <maurer_1> moetunes: That will count some uninstalled packages
[13:29] <WXZ> I really have to learn how to terminal :(
[13:29] <Tdude> If I am to format a USB stick to add the Ubuntu installer on it - What file format should I have on it?
[13:29] <Tdude> FAT, FAT32?
[13:29] <moetunes> k
[13:30] <matt__> ok I have a question
[13:30] <maurer_1> chrissharp123: That will also count uninstalled packages with "ii" in the name.
[13:30] <matt__> can every1 see tbhis
[13:30] <matt__> ?
[13:30] <ikonia> they can
[13:30] <Stealth_> yeah matt__
[13:30] <matt__> awesome
[13:30] <matt__> 10.10
[13:30] <chrissharp123> maurer_1: right - I see that yours is better :-)
[13:30] <NickyJ101> uLinus: ok i see
[13:30] <weeman> HardDisk Seagate Barracuda 1tb.  Seatools reports HD passed long test smart status  ok. HDTune pro reports lots of crc uncorrectable errors. ?
[13:30] <erUSUL> Friar: yes; bt uses md4 afaik so should be ok. but using md5sum is quick
[13:30] <matt__> Although its upgradeable , its still a RC??
[13:30] <matt__> is this correct?
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> matt__:  no.. its final.
[13:30] <Tdude> It's out from what I understand
[13:30] <Tdude> The final version
[13:30] <NickyJ101> matt_: no it is now full release
[13:30] <chrissharp123> Alan: I installed 10.10 netbook edition without issue - don't know about others
[13:30] <matt__> Ok well when i click on upgrade it comes up witht he following tet.
[13:31] <NickyJ101> matt_: RC should update to release
[13:31] <matt__> /home/matt/Documents
[13:31] <mattcodes> hmmm.. just thinking further... if I go on a trip to vietnam/loas, backup day before and if emergency at work  Ive got partition copied onto something like freecom toughdrive, i could walk right into an internet cafe, boot from USB? without carting laptop around (or worring about keloggers)
[13:31] <chrissharp123> Alan: (via USB drive on its last legs)
[13:31] <matt__> = Welcome to the Ubuntu 'Maverick Meerkat' development release =
[13:31] <matt__> ***
[13:31] <matt__> This is still a RELEASE-CANDIDATE release.
[13:31] <matt__> Do not install it on production machines.
[13:31] <matt__> ***
[13:31] <FloodBot1> matt__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:31] <Alan> chrissharp123: i think the 2nd USB drive i tried just has a really slow write speed, i looked at dmesg and the kernel had barfed saying it was waiting on umount for too long
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> matt__:  your servers are not fully updated perhaps.
[13:31] <mipo> okay 10.10 is installed, but how i get my nvidia gts 8800 working? - i tried it with the current version of the nvidia driver, but the resolution is not high enough -  what could i do? an alternative driver?
[13:31] <Alan> chrissharp123: was probably taking too long to clear the write buffer...
[13:31] <cad383> hey folks, cant someone help me to get my mic working in flash applications?
[13:31] <uLinux> new bug :D http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9505/keyboardlayoutbugmaveri.png
[13:31] <Tdude> Should I download 10.10 or 10.4 LTS?
[13:31] <matt__> ??
[13:31] <NickyJ101> mipo: look on nvidia legacy linux drivers, google search
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> Tdude:  depends on your needs.. may as well try 10.10
[13:32] <Alan> chrissharp123: trying another USB drive now, if it breaks again i'll try the 32-bit ISO, if it breaks again i'll try doing a CD install on my desktop first and using the USB creator from maverick
[13:32] <Fatalis> does anyone know how long it will take for Wubi to support 10.10 ?
[13:32] <matt__> Any ideas?
[13:32] <coz_> Tdude,  well... if you want the Long Term Support  version then use lucid
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> matt__:  your servers are a not fully updated.. give them time
[13:32] <NickyJ101> matt_: ok, are you doing via update manager or terminal command?
[13:32] <matt__> ok
[13:32] <matt__> well
[13:32] <Alan> basically, if it breaks again it's not a problem with my hardware anywhere
[13:32] <mipo> NickyJ101 okay thanks, i wil have a look at that
[13:32] <WXZ> gnome is 2,331 MB
[13:32] <matt__> it says upgrade
[13:32] <mattcodes> running dpkg at 95% on ubuntu 10.04 install.. seems to have stalled? usual? keyboard caps on/off still responsive
[13:32] <chrissharp123> Alan: right
[13:32] <matt__> as an option, but ill leave it for an hour then
[13:32] <brad_> chrissharp123: thanks!  i'll just use the ntfs.  my buddy got me nervous, some stuff about the file attributes not transfering, and i wasn't sure how good the ntfs format was under linux.
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> matt__:  or a day
[13:32] <Tdude> Anyone know if my USB memory stick should have FAT32 or FAT? Im about to format it
[13:32] <matt__> A dauy!
[13:33] <Gryllida> NickyJ101: how long does installing 10.04 take after I downloaded all the packages?
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> Tdude:  fat32 or ntfs normally...
[13:33] <matt__> has anyone else had these release notes?
[13:33] <NickyJ101> matt_: it should change itself after some time, check in an hour, or click check for updates to manually check for updates
[13:33] <chrissharp123> brad_: someone just pointed out to me that it does not preserve permissions - so your buddy is right
[13:33] <Super_Roach> Is there an update available for the netbook version of 10.10 yet? It's not available in the update manager, and apt-get dist-upgrade    finds nothing
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> matt__:  yes. its been mentioned befor in here..
[13:33] <chrissharp123> brad_: however, I've done it multiple times without a problem
[13:33] <matt__> ah k
[13:33] <NickyJ101> Gryllida: 10.04, about half an hour to an hour (depending on os), don't you mean 10.10 though?
[13:33] <Alan> chrissharp123: i should also probably try copying the CD image to a local drive before making the USB drive, might be a bug in doing huge amounts of writes from network FS to USB :|
[13:33] <matt__> my bad
[13:33] <Alan> that would be really annoying though
[13:34] <matt__> thanks for your help anyways
[13:34] <Gryllida> NickyJ101: I mean 10.10, yes
[13:34] <chrissharp123> Alan: it definitely would :-)
[13:34] <brad_> chrissharp123: yeah, i'm sure its fine, thanks again
[13:34] <cad383> hey folks, cant someone help me to get my mic working in flash applications?
[13:34] <thanis> i have problems with running my headset on ubuntu 10.4
[13:34] <NickyJ101> Gryllida: about an hour is normal, if you have a lot a packages (because you have picked up lots of software over the ubuntu years) it can be longer
[13:34] <thanis> it recognizes the hardware but sound comes only from surround not from headset
[13:35] <NickyJ101> cad383: right click on app, go to settings and set from there
[13:35] <Tdude> Has the Universal USB Installer been updated to include 10.10?
[13:35] <Alan> chrissharp123: got an error again...
[13:35] <Gryllida> NickyJ101: I'm upgrading to 10.10 from 10.04, not from scratch, what time could it take?
[13:35] <NickyJ101> thanis: what do you mean headset and surround, your pc has two outputs?
[13:35] <thanis> headset uses only USB and surround uses the regular slot
[13:35] <NickyJ101> Gryllida: about an hour is normal, older pc's and lots of old software make it longer
[13:36] <thanis> Philips surround and Microsoft headset
[13:36] <Alan> chrissharp123: also, installing the beta from USB worked fine using all the same hardware :(
[13:36] <cad383> nickyj101: i have already done this, my mic work with recorders such as audacity but it doesnt works  with flash
[13:36] <NickyJ101> thanis: set outputs from the sound menu
[13:36] <zetheroo1> the servers seem a tad overloaded .. hehe
[13:36] <thanis> where is the sound menu ?
[13:36] <thanis> i dont know the location
[13:36] <NickyJ101> cad383: you are not the first on this irc with this, dca had similar, not sure, forums may have some
[13:36] <hardikar> is it safe to upgrade to 10.10
[13:37] <NickyJ101> thanis: system | Preferences | Sound
[13:37] <Gryllida> hardikar: yes, it's stable now
[13:37] <Fatalis> does anyone know how long it will take for Wubi to support 10.10 ?
[13:37] <Tdude> Should be safe if its final :D
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> hardikar:  always have backups... of course.
[13:37] <Gryllida> Fatalis: #Wubi
[13:37] <Gryllida> ?
[13:37] <hardikar> ok
[13:37] <NickyJ101> hardikar: the 10.10 is the final release
[13:37] <NickyJ101> Fatalis: wubi is on the iso
[13:37] <thanis> i dont have this path
[13:37] <thanis> there is no sound menu in preferences
[13:37] <Fatalis> ah ill try it from iso
[13:37] <NickyJ101> thanis: on the top bar of ubuntu, you should have a sound icon?
[13:38] <NickyJ101> Fatalis: all iso's have wubi, put onto a cd to access
[13:38] <thanis> no i have only calendar time language connection and user managment
[13:38] <Tdude> Anyone know the quality of the translation?
[13:39] <Alan> chrissharp123: i think i have a network issue...
[13:39] <Tdude> Might just settle with the English Ubuntu from the start
[13:39] <Alan> chrissharp123: i just copied the file from my server to my desktop and it has different md5sum...
[13:39] <Kosonome> why when i push turn off computer button, it does logoff?
[13:39] <zetheroo1> would everyone just pause their upgrade for 1 hour so mine can complete :D
[13:39] <NickyJ101> thanis: put this into terminal to load the volume control gnome-volume-control
[13:39] <NickyJ101> zetherool: I know the feeling
[13:40] <NickyJ101> Kosonome: are you pushing power button on pc, or shutdown in ubuntu
[13:40] <hardikar> there is no upgrade button in update-manager!!
[13:40] <Kosonome> nickyj101: shutdown in ubuntu
[13:40] <NickyJ101> hardikar: type in update-manager -d
[13:40] <ChogyDan> hardikar: either try upgrade-manager -c, or torrent the alternate cd
[13:40] <cupis> hardikar, go to the settings in update-manager and allow non-LTS versions, then run update-manager -d
[13:40] <ChogyDan> NickyJ101: it should be -c now
[13:40] <thanis> not correct command
[13:41] <NickyJ101> ChogyDan: ok, think -d still works but will give -c
[13:41] <Tdude> Quick questions
[13:41] <hardikar> cupis: thanks :D
[13:41] <Tdude> Should I run the Ubuntu 10.10 as the RC version on my USB installer thing?
[13:41] <NickyJ101> thanis: you are running Ubuntu 10.10
[13:42] <Khanz1> !update
[13:42] <NickyJ101> Tdude: You should be able to get the full version now, not just the RC
[13:42] <coz_> Tdude,  RC is relsease candidate  you want the release   if I am understanding you
[13:42] <Khanz1> Whats the command to update your ubuntu to latest
[13:42] <Tdude> Yeah but I dont think it is added on the USB installer
[13:42] <thanis> 10.4
[13:42] <Tdude> It says: "Added Xubuntu 10.10 RC, Kubuntu 10.10 RC, and Sugar on a Stick."
[13:42] <NickyJ101> Khanz1: update-manager -c
[13:42] <Tdude> The following on the USB Installer website
[13:43] <Khanz1> Like ditributions
[13:43] <jiohdi> someone told me that if I keep updating... the 10.10 beta becomes the normal 10.10 without any re-installing, true or no?
[13:43] <tarzan> hello. IHow can I have the ALSA traces ?
[13:43] <NickyJ101> thanis: ok, on your desktop, right click and create new launcher, then put as command gnome-volume-control. That should work as that is what I have
[13:43] <Tdude> I can only find the 10.10 RC on the USB Installer list :S
[13:44] <NickyJ101> jiohdi: The RC does yes
[13:44] <cupis> jiohdi, correct, once you just need to do a "normal" update
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  thats how the update system works.
[13:44] <thanis> will try
[13:44] <brad_> can i burn my 700 meg iso onto a dvd instead of a cd?  and boot up from the dvd?
[13:44] <NickyJ101> brad_: yes
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> brad_:  ive had some program not let me burn a cd image  to a dvd disk. You could always make a bootable flash drive
[13:45] <Tdude> Ugh what an annoying problem
[13:45] <Tdude> I don't like problems
[13:45] <D3RGPS31> i check my update manager but i don't have the option to upgrade to 10.10; normal upgrading is set
[13:45] <thanis> no such directory gnome-volume-control
[13:45] <thanis> after making the shortcut
[13:45] <Alan> Ok, there is something seriously wrong with samba mounts on ubuntu lucid...
[13:45] <NickyJ101> Dr_Willis: most programs simply fill up DVD with 0 or stop at 700MB and then finalise disk
[13:45] <cousin_mario> hello
[13:45] <cousin_mario> released yet?
[13:45] <cupis> cousin_mario, yes
[13:46] <cousin_mario> cupis: how do I upgrade from lucid?
[13:46] <NickyJ101> cousin_mario: yes, let us know if you have issues updating
[13:46] <Alan> I have a samba filesystem mounted on this machine, copied an ubuntu ISO, and it got a different md5sum
[13:46] <brad_> dr_willis: my usb key is on the other side of the continent :-), if it lets me burn the iso onto a dvd, i'm set, right?
[13:46] <NickyJ101> cousing_mario: in terminal, update-manager -c
[13:46] <cousin_mario> NickyJ101: ok
[13:46] <Alan> however if i use gvfs (i.e. going to smb://helios/... in nautilus) i get the correct result
[13:46] <AbhiJit> g
[13:46] <anon_> I'm getting an error when upgrading. http://pastebin.com/hShh3yqt This happens during "Installing the packages".
[13:46] <Tdude> Could anyone here answer my question, Im new to this and any change from the plan makes me nervous. On the Universal USB Installer I can only find Ubuntu 10.10 RC on the list but I planon installing the 10.10 final. Will this not work?
[13:46] <anon_> Correction: "Installing the upgrades"
[13:46] <NickyJ101> thanis: you are running ubuntu and not xubuntu or kubuntu
[13:46] <coz_> cousin_mario,   in terminal  update-manager -d
[13:47] <thanis> yes
[13:47] <thanis> ubuntu 10.4
[13:47] <NickyJ101> coz_: Apparently -d replaced now with -c
[13:47] <cupis> Tdude, you can install RC then update
[13:47] <chrissharp123> Alan: assuming you have the official MD5SUM list to compare?
[13:47] <Tdude> Ah
[13:47] <Tdude> Smart
[13:47] <coz_> NickyJ101,  no that doesnt work here and I am on lucid on this system
[13:47] <jiohdi> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:canonical-dx-team/une
[13:47] <jiohdi> sudo apt-get update
[13:47] <thanis> i think that this headset microsoft lifechat lx-3000 needs software
[13:47] <cousin_mario> it says it's still release candidate
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> Tdude:  tjhat program proberly has not been updated to point to the Final. You CAN download the final iso file and tell that tool to use that. Or use some OTHER tools to make a bootable flash drive.
[13:47] <NickyJ101> thanis: ok, then I am not too sure, check the forums
[13:47] <Alan> chrissharp123: yes, the first thing i checked before even making a USB installer was that the ISO matched the official MD5SUM
[13:47] <thanis> im not sure it may need software
[13:48] <Tdude> Dr_Willis you think that will work?
[13:48] <NickyJ101> coz_: hmm, okay, well the -d should work until 11.04 starts to get rolling anyway
[13:48] <thanis> didnt checked
[13:48] <Tdude> Ill try
[13:48] <coz_> NickyJ101,  ok understood
[13:48] <chrissharp123> Alan: cool - weird about your samba issue though :-/
[13:48] <GregValheru> is there a away to show trash icon on the desktop instead of having a tiny icon down in the panels bar?
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> Tdude:  what? using the final iso.. yes..  that program sould NOT require itself to download the iso.
[13:48] <NickyJ101> coz_: lucid updater anyway has issues, needs to be tolled to update to normal updates, not just LTS
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> Tdude:  You proberly want to get the latest ISO via torrents.. any servers will be very slow at this time
[13:48] <parapan> hi the folks ....how do I find out where are the grub files located ??? or, where it supossed to be located ???
[13:48] <coz_> NickyJ101,  ok
[13:48] <thanis> does microsoft products run on linux properly ?
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | parapan
[13:49] <JWebb22> I tried to dual boot windows xp with ubuntu and I keep gettin a file not found error grub rescue message
[13:49] <cousin_mario> GregValheru: yes, you have to tinker with gconf-editor
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> !wine | thanis
[13:49] <Lollipop56> hey guys
[13:49] <jiohdi> thanis: some do through wine
[13:49]  * penguin42 hands Dr_Willis another pack of !'s
[13:49] <Lollipop56> how much more stable is Ubuntu compared to Debian Testing?
[13:49] <staybb> how can i mount a ext4 hdd in a virtual ubuntu on vmwareplayer ?
[13:49] <parapan> Dr_Willis: trust me ...it's much more complicated then reading help ....
[13:49] <NickyJ101> thanis: some work in wine, but generally not natively
[13:49] <jiohdi> thanis: especially most of what will run from thumb drives
[13:49] <chrissharp123> Lollipop56: far more stable
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  you dident really ask a more specific question that i saw...
[13:50] <Alan> chrissharp123: i may have to try and narrow down the problem and submit a bug report about that one...
[13:50] <Tdude> Already managed to download the latest version of Ubuntu Dr_Willis
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  the grub docs detail what the files in /etc/default and /etc/grub.d do.
[13:50] <thanis> thank you all for the answers
[13:50] <GregValheru> cousin_mario, ty, how do i run the gconf-editor?
[13:50] <Kheops> C
[13:50] <ganeshran> finally the speed picked up a bit.. yippee
[13:50] <Lollipop56> chrissharp123, then Canonical does a lotta patches I guess
[13:50] <Kheops> hi
[13:50] <Tdude> But my problem now is that it doesn't find the .iso in the Browse in the Universal USB Installer
[13:50] <Andy80> hi all
[13:50] <NickyJ101> wow, I cannot even download release notes from server now... hahaha
[13:50] <Alan> chrissharp123: i expect that the installer will probably work down, the disk image obviously got corrupted in copying from the server...
[13:50] <chrissharp123> Lollipop56: that is to say that Debian's individual packages are older and tested, the distribution overall can break easily
[13:50] <Tdude> Im starting to think its because its looking for 10.10 RC and only finds 10.10
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> Tdude:  you could try using unetbootin, or some other tool. that Universial USB installer is from that Pendrive Linux web site?
[13:51] <Kheops> this version ubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64 It's working for an Quad Core ?
[13:51] <Tdude> Yes Dr_Willis
[13:51] <Kheops> ?
[13:51] <BlueMatt> anyone know why system cpu usage is around 20-30% on an i7 after upgrade to 10.10?
[13:51] <ganeshran> is 10.10 not a LTS version? Is that bad?
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Tdude:  you could just rename the iso file..  or use a different tool.
[13:51] <Tdude> The one I found on the Ubuntu website installation guide
[13:51] <JWebb22> can someone help me?
[13:51] <Tdude> Smart
[13:51] <bloopletech> I'm upgrading now - server seems to be working fine, giving me 121KB/s right now which is not bad for my connection
[13:51] <maurer_1> Hey, my webcam is supposedly supported by uvcvideo, but does not work under ubuntu. Any ideas on how to approach this?
[13:51] <penguin42> ganeshran: No it's not LTS
[13:51] <Kheops> ?
[13:51] <Tdude> Will try unetbootin
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Tdude:   i found that unioversial usb installer tool a little brain dead in many ways
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> Tdude:  so either rename the iso.  thats rather easy, or try unetbootin.
[13:52] <maurer_1> ganeshran: That is not bad, unless for some reason (usually due to being a corporation with certain software version requirements) you need to use the same version of ubuntu for multiple years.
[13:52] <penguin42> BlueMatt: My i7 is 98% idle at the moment
[13:52] <Andy80> on my netbook, when I used 10.04, I trasformed my Desktop session in Netbook remix, because I needed customizable traybar. Now I've upgraded to 10.10. The netbook remix interface / session is ok, but I'd like to transform my netbook session to desktop again and I don't have anymore these components to remove: go-home-applet human-netbook-theme maximus netbook-launcher window-picker-applet, how can I remove them?
[13:52] <ganeshran> maurer_1: oh ok cool
[13:52] <Kheops> !help
[13:52] <parapan> Dr_Willis: well ...I have a dualsys ( WinXp + Ubuntu ); 3 x 1TB hdd; the bootable drive is the second one; the linux install is also on the second HDD; I made some partitioning in Windows and now the Grub is corrupted; problem is, Grub is not quite GRUB2 since I have an 9.10 version, upgraded from 9.04 .....bottom line, GRUB is corrupted, and also the MBR ..cannot access windows nor Ubuntu :D
[13:52] <BlueMatt> penguin42: are you on 10.10?
[13:52] <penguin42> BlueMatt: Yep
[13:52] <Kheops> this version ubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64 It's working for an Quad Core ??
[13:52] <Tdude> Ill just go ahead and download the RC instead
[13:53] <Tdude> This is troublesome
[13:53] <penguin42> Kheops: Yep, it loves quad cores
[13:53] <Kheops> :)
[13:53] <psyllon> ..
[13:53] <Kheops> thanks
[13:53] <benste> hi, using lucid I've got problems getting my TV connected to my "Nvidia" laptop
[13:53] <penguin42> BlueMatt: If you run top what's using the cpu?
[13:53] <NickyJ101> Tdude: once RC is done, the update there will get the full release anyway
[13:53] <cousin_mario> GregValheru: gconf-editor from the terminal, I don't recall if it's installed by default
[13:53] <Billen> INSTALLATION PROBLEM: This is what I experienced a couple of minutes ago: Eagerly I  downloaded the new release, and installed under Wubi. It rebooted my machine, but no pciture appeared and the monitor tried finding a signal. Meanwhile, my HD5870 fans went haywire. A couple of minutes later it rebooted. Still no picture, so I had tu shut down the computer with my power button. After this, my
[13:53] <Billen> NIC didn't work, in Windows or outside. Funny thing, huh? :D
[13:53] <ganeshran> finally speeds are touching 200Kbps guess everyone upgraded already
[13:53] <NickyJ101> benste: how is your tv connected
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  time to check otut that !fixgrub url and reinstall grub. You may want to upgrade to grub2 if you havent.
[13:53] <kwantakosta> can some one help me out with learning squid
[13:54] <benste> NickyJ101: - only getting grey screen, even if I use Xconf to set PAL-B -- connected via S-Video to Scart
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> kwantakosta:  ive seen numerous squid guides. You have looked for some?
[13:54] <GregValheru> cheers, cousin_mario
[13:54] <benste> NickyJ101: cable and PC is working fine in windows
[13:54] <sarkofag> My update-manager -c don't find 10.10, can I do anything besides wait?
[13:54] <D3RGPS31> any downsides from switching to 64bit? (i7 920, 3GB memory)
[13:54] <parapan> Dr_Willis: yeap ..this is what I should do, but ...I'm running a liveCD now and cannot figure out where I should install GRUB ...
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> D3RGPS31:  ive not seen any.
[13:54] <maurer_1> sarkofag: Run "sudo apt-get update"
[13:54] <maurer_1> Then look at update manager again
[13:54] <NickyJ101> benste: ok, do you have a second screen to run ubuntu on, or perhaps tv can accept VGA?
[13:54] <cupis> sarkofag, run update-manager and change the settings to allow non-LTS versions
[13:54] <sarkofag> maurer_1: done that several times
[13:55] <sarkofag> ok thanks
[13:55] <kwantakosta> i'm new @ ubuntu so need to learn a lot
[13:55] <NickyJ101> sarkofag: another method is to type in update-manager -d
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  for my systems. I keep windows totallty on its own hd.. and linux on its own hd.. (sdb) i install grub to sdb. and tell the bios wht HD to boot. that way I dont have grub on the windows mbr at all.. and windows dont mess with the linux/grub mbr either. :)
[13:55] <ibidu> hi all, does anyone know if there's any suitable alternative for Logmein for Ubuntu, if not are there any alternative routes for remote desktop in Ubuntu?
[13:55] <NickyJ101> kwantakosta: post your issues here
[13:55] <Alan> chrissharp123: http://sc.dev.hexi.co/raw/23/
[13:55] <sarkofag> it found 10.10, many thanks maurer_1 and cupis
[13:56] <Taravel> hi, excluding VirtualBox is there any open source program for desktop virtualization? thank you very much
[13:56] <Alan> chrissharp123: how's that for "oh god it's broken!"
[13:56] <Kheops> penguin42: If I'm trying to install GRUB menu from a ubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64 Live CD to an installed ubuntu-9.04-server-i386 It's there a problem ?
[13:56] <benste> NickyJ101: I've used Ubuntu with VGA on 19" screens but not on tvs yet - only way will be S-Video -scart - PAL -- here is my xorg.conf
[13:56] <benste> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510064/
[13:56] <NickyJ101> Taravel: not sure, but virtualbox is pretty good
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> Taravel:  qemu i belive.
[13:56] <coz_> ibidu,  just googled that using this string    ubuntu alternative for logmein
[13:56] <chrissharp123> Alan: that's pretty broken :-)
[13:56] <penguin42> Kheops: It might be, I can't remember when it switched over from Grub1 to Grub2, I suspect 9.04 is Grub1
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> !manual | kwantakosta
[13:56] <Kheops> penguin42: yes
[13:57] <Tdude> Thanks Dr_Willis I think the UNetbootin device is working better
[13:57] <Billen> short story: Ubuntu 10.10 fried my NIC :D
[13:57] <Tdude> Making me USB booter now
[13:57] <BlueMatt> penguin42: nothing its just system usage, so no individual process
[13:57] <Alan> chrissharp123: :(
[13:57] <cousin_mario> Billen: they come cheap these days:)
[13:57] <penguin42> BlueMatt: That's odd for it to be that high
[13:57] <Univ> is there any known problem displaying accented chars in 10.10 ? accents are displayed, but not at the right place...
[13:57] <BlueMatt> a
[13:57] <NickyJ101> benste: I'm not too sure, I think you need to set-up your config file, but that not really anything i know about. I spent two hours trying to get nvidia x server installed
[13:57] <benste> NickyJ101: guess I'm right I can't change this via GUI ?
[13:57] <Kheops> penguin42: so I will use an Old version of LIVE Cd ?
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> kwantakosta:  if you are new to linux. why are you even messing with squid? learn some linux basics first. then work on squid
[13:57] <Billen> cousin_mario: Yeah, I am so eager to try it again. Maybe I can risk my gfx aswell? :D
[13:57] <kwantakosta> thx will search for it
[13:57] <LordDeath> I can't uninstall the b43 wifi driver in ubuntu 10.10 :(
[13:57] <penguin42> Kheops: If you're just trying to repair Grub then probably best to use an older one
[13:57] <NickyJ101> benste: feeling is no, but look around as someone else may be able to help
[13:58] <Kheops> penguin42: Like 6.06 I have this :)
[13:58] <rotem925> hello expert, any i ddea why i get this in 10.04 when entering a command in bash? getcwd() failed: No such file or directory
[13:58] <penguin42> Kheops: Well that should be in a museum
[13:58] <cousin_mario> LordDeath: you probably have to remove the firmware if you want it to stop working
[13:58] <Kheops> penguin42: It's original stuff :))
[13:58] <penguin42> rotem925: Are you in a directory you deleted?
[13:58] <kwantakosta> the reason is that i am crw member of big lan party and the regular guy isn't able to join
[13:58] <benste> anyone else here experienced with the Nvidia restricted driver + S-video + PAL standard ?
[13:58] <rotem925> penguin42:  hell yea :)
[13:58] <Kruptein> Hey I can't open the software center from the menu?
[13:58] <rotem925> penguin42:  thanks!!
[13:58] <LordDeath> cousin_mario: thx, I will search for that
[13:58] <parapan> Dr_Willis: Sounds the best way to handle things ...However now I must try to recover things ...problem is I am not sure how to handle this ...so ..my first question is .........Where GRUB has the files, because I try to run sudo grub .....and I get the error command not found ... ....
[13:59] <Kheops> penguin42: but this It's Desktop version It will mount the boot on a Server Version ?
[13:59] <kwantakosta> so need to learn how to set it up
[13:59] <Kruptein> if I run: software-center in the terminal I get an error about a file that can't be opened
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> Kruptein:  try running it from a terminal. I had a issue where some log file got protected/owned by wrokg person. and i had to delete it - befor it would start up
[13:59] <Billen> anyone running ubuntu 10.10 with success using a HD5870 graphics card?
[13:59] <penguin42> Kheops: Should yes, but hey just explain what you're trying to do
[13:59] <mohraibat> is there a way to check for defects in the 10.10 disk before booting it  ??????
[13:59] <Kheops> penguin42: Just to have boot menu and choose what OS to boot.
[13:59] <Kruptein> Dr_Willis see my post
[13:59] <benste> mohraibat: use the menu (get it with ESC)
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> parapan:   the command for reinstalling grub is 'update-grub' but i dont think grub is on the live cd. you would need to chroot into the installed system
[14:00] <maurer_1> I have a webcam which uvcvideo claims to support, but which does not work under ubuntu. Ideas?
[14:00] <penguin42> Kheops: Yeh if you just need to reinstall Grub that should be OK I think; I'd take a copy of /boot from the partiton you want to boot first
[14:00] <Kheops> penguin42: I have a Server version and Micro$oft Installed.
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> Kruptein:  and whats the files name/path?
[14:00] <mohraibat> benste: i cant my laptop screen is broken so i use an ex monitor and it doesnt show up
[14:00] <Kheops> penguin42: how I can access that partition ? :)))
[14:00] <Kruptein> Dr_Willis: this is the output http://dpaste.com/255855/
[14:00] <algnod> hi all, is upgrading netbook edition via the alternate cd a valid option? or do I get a desktop system installed? is there more difference between une and desktop besides unity?
[14:01] <penguin42> Kheops: Lets go back; how did you get to this point?
[14:01] <anon_> How do I fix this: "E: Couldn't configure pre-depend x11-common for x11-xkb-utils, probably a dependency cycle."
[14:01] <parapan> Dr_Willis: So basically I need to mount the partition of the original system correct ???
[14:01] <penguin42> algnod: I think netbook is just a different mix of packages
[14:01] <Kheops> penguin42: Resizeing -> Delete Swap -> Installed Windows 7 :)
[14:02] <algnod> penguin42 so its ok to user alternate?
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  yes.
[14:02] <Kheops> penguin42: now 2 partition used by Win and 2 by Ubuntu Server.
[14:02] <penguin42> Kheops: Ah OK, so I would boot off a CD of about the right vintage, mount /boot into a temporary directory and then reinstall grub, but I suspect there will need to be some fixing up
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> Kruptein:  looks like a differnt error then what i had.
[14:02] <penguin42> algnod: Probably
[14:03] <Kheops> penguin42: what fixing up ? :)
[14:03] <algnod> penguin42 probably :-) or will I be missing important packages? where would it be best to ask? thanks
[14:03] <penguin42> Kheops: I'm not sure, good feeling it won't be totally smooth
[14:04] <Kheops> penguin42: It's because I delete the swap ? :)
[14:04] <penguin42> algnod: I suspect the alternate won't have the new version of the netbook pacakges on
[14:04] <DyingDawn> hi
[14:04] <algnod> penguin42 thanks for your help
[14:04] <DyingDawn> einen frohen Erdmännchen-Tag euch allen! ;-)
[14:04] <ubuntu_> has anyone else had problems installing
[14:04] <ubuntu_> 10.10
[14:05] <DyingDawn> no, not yet
[14:05] <parapan> Dr_Willis: mounted the linux partition into /media folder ....cd /boot/grub ...tryed sudo grub ....the same error
[14:05] <penguin42> ubuntu_: Some people have, most people haven't - now what's your problem with it?
[14:05] <ubuntu_> Its weird its stuck as soon as i push forward
[14:05] <penguin42> forward?
[14:05] <LordDeath> now i am trying to delete the "firmware-b43-installer" with synaptic
[14:05] <LordDeath> but it takes really long for a 40kb package
[14:05] <Kurdistan> anybody have any idea how to fix mouse
[14:06] <Kurdistan> doesnt work
[14:06] <DyingDawn> just a question: what is the best way to use the notification tool for thunderbird? Do I have to have firefox opened all the time?
[14:06] <[cdr]> I have 10.10 RC, is there anything I have to do to upgrade to 10.10 final? I don't see any updates in Update Manager.
[14:06] <jrib> [cdr]: just run regular updates
[14:07] <ubuntu_> penguin42, It stays on prepairing to install ubuntu...doesnt move...You think i should delete my partitions and start over
[14:07] <tensorpudding> !final | [cdr]
[14:07] <Extremedevilz> Hi guys I am installing ubuntu it kinda stuck saying ready when you when installing ubuntu 10.10
[14:07] <[cdr]> I haven't seen any updates in 24 hours, does that mean I already have final?
[14:07] <tensorpudding> oh hey, they updated
[14:07] <jrib> [cdr]: yes
[14:07] <penguin42> ubuntu_: If you can try again it's probably worth it - but that shouldn't happen; I'd check the CD burn is OK
[14:07] <tensorpudding> but if you're running RC you already have the final release
[14:07] <tensorpudding> modulo a couple of updates
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  you have to learn about 'chrooting'
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | parapan
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  you are skipping a lot of little steps.
[14:08] <Low_enduser> !vbox
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  and ce /boot/grub is the grub direcotry on your booted system. not the mounted system
[14:09] <Kosonome> hello people, how can i change font size in ubuntu? i think its kinda big here :)
[14:09] <parapan> Dr_Willis: quick help for chroot ???
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  You need to read the grub docs on restoreing/reinstalling grub. theres lots of little things to watch out for. but its not too hard.
[14:10] <LordDeath> now the synaptic console hangs while deleting the config-files from this b43 package :(
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> parapan:   You need to mount /dev/ and a few other things to the proper location, befor you chroot. - actually the 10,10 cd has a recovery mode that can fix it also i think
[14:10] <coz_> parapan,   here is a good how to on grub   http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[14:10] <parapan> Dr_Willis: That's why I am asking ..all tutorials for fixing groob are saying ....run a liveCD ...open a terminal, go to grub directory and run sudo grub ...this is the first step ...but my problem is a little bit more complex ...
[14:10] <morose7> I plug in my headphones and or speakers in Ubuntu 10.10, it mutes my speaker, but I hear no sound from the headphones or speakers?
[14:11] <LordDeath> now it worked :)
[14:11] <Low_enduser> !resolution
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  i belive they mention more steps then that..
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  of course most of the ones i know fo these days are for grub2. I dont use grub1 any more.
[14:11] <DyingDawn> in ordner to use the thunderbird notification-tool, do I have to have thunderbird running in the backgroud all the time?
[14:12] <pr0xy> Why cant I use the CD for Maverick Meerkat?
[14:12] <parapan> coz_: I'm checking that out ...seems to be at very basic level ..thank you ...
[14:12] <dadrc> I'm trying to write a udev rule for my logitech headset, the one I've got works with udevadm test (see http://pastey.net/141380), but doesn't do anything with the real thing... any hints?
[14:13] <Extremedevilz> Guyz i am installing ubuntu but now it. Is saying ready when you are what is that
[14:14] <chrissharp123> Extremedevilz: it stops at the point where you need to enter your user information
[14:14] <pr0xy> If I put the Maverick disk into the CD/DVD tray, close it and start up my computer to boot from the disk, I get a bunch of weird colored rectangles.
[14:14] <LordDeath> is fglrx already compatible with ubuntu 10.10?
[14:15] <crimsonmane> i'm still trying to stabalize my WUSB600N :(
[14:15] <Extremedevilz> I already did
[14:15] <coz_> pr0xy,  each time?
[14:15] <penguin42> LordDeath: I think so
[14:15] <bloopletech> penguin42, LordDeath I've heard conflicting things
[14:15] <g2avityhitz> .
[14:15] <bloopletech> I'm actually going to go with the radeon drivers now they have working r800 series support
[14:15] <parapan> Dr_Willis: coz_ : OK, ok ...I'm figuring something out ...in order to access the real installation, first the drive itself has to be mounted into the liveCD instance ....
[14:15] <LFC_fan> depends on the card actually
[14:16] <mrpresto> I today installed Ubuntu 10.10 Beta on my Thinkpad. After the installation I rebooted and entered my WLAN password (Belkin mode N router, WPA2 secured) and everything worked "fine". I did all updates to make the beta into the full version and restarted - now I can't connect to the Wlan anymore. Is this a known bug? I only reccently switched to a linux distribution so I am a beginner
[14:16] <Extremedevilz> M
[14:16] <jason2345> i need to know how to install  flashplayer 9 on ubuntu 10.04
[14:16] <pr0xy> coz_ I tried it with the RC disk for weeks. and I tried it with the full release that launched today.
[14:16] <Nepherius> uhm ..what desktop manager dose 10.10 have ?
[14:16] <penguin42> jason2345: Why 9 in particular?
[14:16] <LordDeath> unfortunately the GUI to install proprietary hardware drivers doesn't show any version numbers.
[14:16] <ganeshran> mrpresto: is your wlan card detected?
[14:16] <Extremedevilz> Help me please
[14:16] <coz_> pr0xy,  mm and you had the same strange thing happen ?
[14:16] <jason2345> because flash 10=fail big time
[14:17] <mrpresto> ganeshran: yes I see my wlan network and some others from the building
[14:17] <coz_> pr0xy,   and this doesnt happen on lucid  ...yes?
[14:17] <penguin42> jason2345: Hmm not sure then, I know that I would use flashplugin-installer to install the current one, if you have one of Adobe's tar's of flash 9 then it may work on 10.04 but I wouldn't bet on it
[14:17] <crimsonmane> mrpresto yes its a known issue with wireless N that's what iv'e been dealing with all week
[14:17] <pr0xy> coz_ it doesn't happen with lucid. and it didn't happen with fedora before I switched to Ubuntu.
[14:18] <jason2345> flash 10 sucks
[14:18] <jason2345> its buggy as crap
[14:18] <jason2345> :(
[14:18] <LFC_fan> well
[14:18] <bert31wvl> anyone familiar with SIM/SMS tools on linux/ubuntu?
[14:18] <mrpresto> crimsonmame: is there any workaround or temporary fix?
[14:18] <LFC_fan> Flash sucks as it is
[14:18] <sasori2501> having a hell of a time finding the ktorrent executable, anyone know where it is???? thanks!
[14:18] <LFC_fan> use HTML5 with youtube
[14:18] <bert31wvl> I want to read deleted sms messages from a phone
[14:18] <LFC_fan> no need of Flash :)
[14:18] <crimsonmane> mrpresto you just gotta try each and every method you can find from googling.... :(
[14:18] <coz_> pr0xy,  mm  ok ...  which video card is on this system?
[14:18] <dadrc> sasori2501: which ktorrent
[14:19] <crimsonmane> i havent found my right one yet, and your solution will be different than mine
[14:19] <jason2345> i find out how
[14:19] <jason2345> bye
[14:19] <Extremedevilz> It is display ubuntu cron
[14:19] <six66> hay Im using fluxbox and thunaar file manager does not open my other patitions in the harddrive .. why is that ?
[14:19] <crimsonmane> i'm probably going to buy a new fully compatible wireless card or run a cable :( linux really sux when it comes to this area
[14:19] <BluesKaj> sasori2501, look in /usr/bin
[14:20] <nobarking> hey
[14:20] <nobarking> does anyone know what the situation is with 64bit Adobe Flash in Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick?
[14:20] <mrpresto> crimsonmane: well thanks for the heads up. i can't use a wired connection because of the room layout. in that case i will do some more research and if i don't find any solution just continue with win7 :(
[14:20] <nobarking> does it still use the 32bit wrapper?
[14:20] <penguin42> nobarking: It doesn't automatically install using flashplugin-installer
[14:20] <LFC_fan> adobe has dropped support for 64 bit flash
[14:20] <POVaddct> crimsonmane: don't blame linux for the manufacturers not releasing specs
[14:20] <TopGear> Hi
[14:20] <penguin42> nobarking: The flashplugin-installer still uses the 32bit + wrapper
[14:20] <LFC_fan> ubuntu uses 32 bit plugin with nspluginweapper
[14:20] <penguin42> LFC_fan: No, it's back!
[14:21] <nobarking> LFC_fan: not true, adobe recently released 64bit
[14:21] <LFC_fan> nobarking: did they?
[14:21] <TopGear> I can't get into my qnap ts 209 pro.
[14:21] <six66> hay Im using fluxbox and thunaar file manager does not open my other patitions in the harddrive .. why is that ?
[14:21] <crimsonmane> pov they released specs for my WUSB600N
[14:21] <TopGear> I tried to mount it, but I got an error
[14:21] <A_New_Server> Where are the fonts located?
[14:21] <POVaddct> crimsonmane: really? which chipset?
[14:21] <crimsonmane> but i'm bound and determined to use linux and eff windows
[14:21] <crimsonmane> 2800 chipset
[14:21] <ganeshran> ooh my download is done
[14:21] <crimsonmane> ralink
[14:21] <dadrc> LFC_fan: yeah, check out http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer_square_p2_64bit_linux_092710.tar.gz
[14:21] <nobarking> LFC_fan: yup it's called Adobe Flash BOX or something, it's still beta but updated supports all OS
[14:21] <nobarking> square*
[14:21] <LFC_fan> ok
[14:21] <ganeshran> how much time does it take to install
[14:21] <LFC_fan> that's nice
[14:21] <etzerd> hello all
[14:21] <pr0xy> coz_ I have a GT240
[14:22] <TopGear> sudo mount -t nfs IPQNAP:/Qmultimedia /mnt/Qmultimedia resulted in: mount.nfs: mount system call failed
[14:22] <TopGear> and SMB can't reach it, don't know why actually. no errors
[14:22] <mrpresto> What I don't get is my Intel 5300 AGBN card worked while testing Ubuntu and after the first reboot. Just after updating from Beta to final release it stopped working
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> six66:  you will need to mount them some how. since I dont think thunar has  that feature.
[14:22] <six66> damn
[14:23] <penguin42> mrpresto: Is your AP on 2.x or 5.x GHz ?
[14:23] <coz_> pr0xy,   ok then ...unless the video card has recently died...there should be no issue... i would redownload the cd ... check md5sum and burn it again at 1x if possible
[14:23] <crimsonmane> POVaddct: do you think you could look around and see if you can find a solution for my WUSB600 not being stable? its slower than molasses and disconnects constantly
[14:23] <POVaddct> crimsonmane: hmm, the older ralink chips work quiet well. is the 2800 only supported by a staging driver or by the rt2xxx-based?
[14:23] <david> hello
[14:23] <anon_> How do I fix this: "E: Couldn't configure pre-depend x11-common for x11-xkb-utils, probably a dependency cycle."
[14:23] <pr0xy> coz_ I burned it to a DVD, is that a problem?
[14:23] <penguin42> mrpresto: I did see something about a problem with the Intel firmware in 'n' mode that was being worked with Intel
[14:23] <crimsonmane> well POVaddct the actual driver is RT2800 that linux is using
[14:24] <etzerd> when ubuntu 10.10 will be release?
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> etzerd:  a few hrs ago....
[14:24] <penguin42> etzerd: It is released
[14:24] <LordDeath> is it true that ubuntu 10.10 now supports multitouch gestures?
[14:24] <coz_> pr0xy,  no it shouldnt be a problem at all... however  it could have burned corrupted
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> LordDeath:  its supposed to bne a new feature..
[14:24] <mrpresto> penguin42: I don't know - there is no option in the Belkin router
[14:24] <erUSUL> anon_: try « sudo dpkg --reconfigure x11-xkb-utils »
[14:24] <coz_> pr0xy,  so download again...check md5sum on the iso image  then burn it again at 1x
[14:24] <POVaddct> crimsonmane: yeah, but is the vendor supplied driver (not using the mac80211 stack)?
[14:24] <penguin42> mrpresto: Is there an option for 'n' mode?
[14:24] <LordDeath> Dr_Willis: any idea where is already works?
[14:24] <TopGear> someone who's got an idea?
[14:25] <etzerd> I installed the RC already, should I reinstall the final release again or just update?
[14:25] <LordDeath> I have a multitouch n-trig panel here
[14:25] <penguin42> etzerd: Just update
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> LordDeath:  nope. I have no such devices.. and when ive tried the feture on other laptops in windows - i found it useless..
[14:25] <etzerd> thanks
[14:25] <mrpresto> penguin42: Yes I set it to "n" only since everything else in my home has wired connections
[14:25] <pr0xy> coz_ how do I check md5um of an ISO on a mac/
[14:25] <crimsonmane> no, linux generic w/e... i tried to use the file off the USB's cd but that didnt seem to change anything
[14:25] <penguin42> mrpresto: Try turning it off n
[14:25] <LordDeath> Dr_Willis: then you newer used onenote in windows ;-)
[14:25] <coz_> pr0xy,   when the iso is finished downloading  open a terminal   cd to the iso' s  location and run   md5sum nameof.iso
[14:26] <anon_> erUSUL, I get this message: "dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure"
[14:26] <coz_> pr0xy,  let me get the link for the hashes hold on
[14:26] <erUSUL> pr0xy: i expect MacOSX to have md5sum command
[14:26] <erUSUL> anon_: is --configure sorry
[14:26] <Guest9685> anyone know any good backrounds
[14:26] <mrpresto> penguin42: Even if that works that is only an emergency option - after all I don't want to limit my internet connection because of hardware and software development failures
[14:26] <erUSUL> pr0xy: it is an UNIX (tm) after all ;P
[14:26] <coz_> pr0xy,   ok go here   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes   and look for the proper has code  ooo wait... no maverick on there
[14:26] <penguin42> mrpresto: Yeh I agree; they're working with Intel to fix it; see bug 630748
[14:26] <aeon-ltd> Guest9685: its all up to taste, but check out the screenshots part of the ubuntu forums
[14:27] <coz_> pr0xy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[14:27] <Voldenet> Hello, is there official mirror list for ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso?
[14:27] <Guest9685> do you know of any good backrounds
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> !mirrors | Voldenet
[14:27] <crimsonmane> POVaddct: sorry i forget to use pplz names... no, linux generic w/e... i tried to use the file off the USB's cd but that didnt seem to change anything
[14:27] <ervis> hi all
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> Voldenet:  its best to use the torrents at thsi time
[14:27] <coz_> anyone have the hashes for maverick?
[14:27] <anon_> erUSUL, now I get this :p http://pastebin.com/3nSSVRp1
[14:27] <pr0xy> coz_ I don't see maverick there
[14:27] <g2avityhitz> n00b here. how do i add a new server and port number?
[14:27] <anon_> erUSUL, thanks for helping me btw.
[14:28] <SwedeMike> the torrents should be fine, I'm not seeing a lot of outbound traffic on them, seems to be pretty stable around 10 megabytes/s
[14:28] <coz_> pr0xy,  right I am looking for those hold on
[14:28] <mrpresto> penguin42: Well my old Intel 5100 card was also a real problem with Ubuntu 10.04 and the network manager was unable to show prober speeds and I had a stalled internet connection every second day so my confidence in a fixed bug is rather small for now
[14:28] <n8ofsp8ds> hey guys whats the generic number 10.10 final
[14:28] <ervis> im having problems downloading packeges to slow only 20kb/s
[14:29] <coz_> pr0xy,    http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/maverick/release/MD5SUMS
[14:29] <Kruptein> why is CTRL+ALT+D changed to Super+D ?  was it for new-ubuntu'ers that come from windows?
[14:29] <coz_> pr0xy,  when you run   md5sum nameof.iso    depending on which arch  you use  those numbers should match
[14:29] <crimsonmane> what does super D do ?
[14:30] <n8ofsp8ds> hey guys whats the generic number 10.10 final
[14:30] <coz_> crimsonmane,  on the desktp? here it opens the menu for the logoff  restart shutdown menu from the panel
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> n8ofsp8ds:  clarify what you mean...
[14:30] <ervis> im having problems downloading packeges to slow only 20kb/s
[14:31] <hid3> Anyone already have a freshly installed 10.10? Could you pastebin how the sources.list file looks like?
[14:31] <parapan> Dr_Willis: root@ubuntu:/# apt-get install grub-pc Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation
[14:31] <coz_> n8ofsp8ds,   10th day  10th month if that is what you m ean
[14:31] <n8ofsp8ds> like rc <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:31] <n8ofsp8ds> whats the final
[14:31] <sslither2010> Quick question if someone has a minute, is it better to upgrade to 10.10 through the update-managed -d, or download the new Distro
[14:32] <parapan> Dr_Willis: The following packages have unmet dependencies:   grub-pc: Depends: grub-common (= 1.97~beta4-1ubuntu4.1) but 1.97~beta4-1ubuntu5 is to be installed E: Broken packages
[14:32] <cupis> sslither2010, update-manager is fine
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> parapan:   you may need to 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' then try installing that.. ive never had to install grub2. ive always had it by default on my clean installs.
[14:32] <magnetron> sslither2010: it's usually faster to torrent the alternate CD and upgrade from that
[14:32] <sslither2010> thank you
[14:32] <sanguisdex> is it possible to add multiple pont points to one partition?
[14:33] <erUSUL> anon_: so is already everything done but there where errors ? maybe reinstalling or removing installing ?
[14:33] <sasori2501> BluesKaj: Thank you!  perfect advice, as always.  how i forgot that... not sure.  lol.  thanks mate!
[14:33] <hid3> ervis: do you have a freshly installed 10.10?
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> sanguisdex:  yes. Or you could set up soft links to make it show in other locations..
[14:33] <KeithWeisshar> i'm having an issue with ubuntu 10.10 on my system, it boots into command prompt only from the live cd
[14:33] <erUSUL> sasori2501: or use mount --bind
[14:33] <coz_> pr0xy,  of course   "nameof.iso"  means the name of the iso you downloded :)  just in case that wasnt clear
[14:33] <penguin42> KeithWeisshar: What does it say before the prompt?
[14:33] <crimsonmane> can anyone point me to a "working" fix to "Linksys WUSB600N" having slow, unreliable, constantly disconnecting, when it disconnects i have to disable networking then reenable networking...
[14:33] <KeithWeisshar> i have a nvidia geforce gtx 470 video card
[14:33] <pr0xy> coz_ I know.
[14:33] <Kruptein> @crimsonmane and coz_   with the new maverick update super-D hides/shows my desktop while it in the past always was ctrl+alt+d
[14:33] <coz_> pr0xy,  no offense meant  :)
[14:33] <Kruptein> it has been windows-copied?
[14:34] <parapan> Dr_Willis: nope, it's not working ....sounds like I'll have to re-install the system or so ....:((
[14:34] <pr0xy> coz_ it's cool. 8 minutes left on download
[14:34] <coz_> pr0xy,  cool
[14:34] <sanguisdex>  want to have my current /home partition become my home var and tmp is there any danger to that, that you can think of?
[14:34] <ervis> hid3, im trying to upgrade from 04 to 10
[14:34] <ervis> but to slow
[14:35] <KeithWeisshar> ubuntu runs fine on virtualbox but only boots to command prompt on my real system
[14:35] <Pr070cal> hi im unable to install nvidia drivers timesout
[14:35] <defrysk> congrats to everyone involved with 1010, nice job!
[14:35] <pr0xy> ervis, patience.
[14:35] <ikonia> ervis: it's release day, a lot of people are using the servers
[14:35] <cupis> ervis, be patient :)
[14:35] <crimsonmane> can anyone point me to a "working" fix to "Linksys WUSB600N" having slow, unreliable, constantly disconnecting, when it disconnects i have to disable networking then reenable networking...
[14:35] <anon_> erUSUL, how exactly do I remove installing? Is there a command for it? I'm sorry I'm a noob.
[14:35] <pr0xy> ervis, burn a CD?
[14:35] <erUSUL> anon_: sudo apt-get --reinstall install x11-xkb-utils
[14:36] <Moonlit> http://s2.kimag.es/share/77040495.png
[14:36] <Moonlit> how do I fix... that entire screenshot?
[14:36] <Pr070cal> tried update manager > Requires installation of untrusted packages
[14:36] <ervis> i have download full distro but i like to upgrade next week i will do fresh install
[14:36] <Leapo> Moonlit: Wow, that's...hideously ugly.
[14:36] <sylvain_> coucou
[14:36] <Moonlit> Leapo - no kidding, right?
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  its proberly fixable.. if you spend the time.. but it may be a better fix to just do a clean install.
[14:37] <pr0xy> ervis If you're updating, then you might get disconnected which may break your lucid. if you make a cd then you won't lose any stuff badly.
[14:37] <Leapo> That titlebar is _way_ too big. Is it like that by default? O_o
[14:37] <sylvain_> join #coucou
[14:37] <pr0xy> moonlit wtf happened there?
[14:37] <Moonlit> Leapo - I think it happened when I changed the font size... except with the default font it looks normal, because it's so big
[14:37] <n8w> ive got 10.10 RC but the kpackagekit doesnt give me any option to upgrade to the final version
[14:37] <KeithWeisshar> all i get is a welcome to ubuntu and then a command prompt
[14:38] <Pr070cal> how do i fix Requires installation of untrusted packages ?
[14:38] <Leapo> Any way to even out the spacing here, or am I stuck with an eyesore as well?: http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1163/12467618.jpg
[14:38] <Moonlit> pr0xy - well, I like to make my Linux installs kinda minimal, I changed the font and size down, but I can't make the UI smaller to match it :/
[14:38] <hidekazu2> !isitout
[14:38] <hidekazu2> wow !
[14:38] <coz_> n8w,   I believe the RC  is most likely the release
[14:38] <Newbuntu> Hi I'm new to ubuntu I was planning on putting it into virtual box but I'm not sure how to make it look visually appealing
[14:38] <anon_> erUSUL, I tried upgrading to 10.10 but I still get the same error...
[14:38] <anon_> erUSUL, maybe I should wait a couple of days so this gets fixed
[14:38] <ikonia> Newbuntu: experiment
[14:38] <Moonlit> Newbuntu - you too, huh? we were just talking about that
[14:38] <KeithWeisshar> is a gtx 470 an unsupported video card
[14:38] <pr0xy> moonlit what did you use to make it smallish?
[14:38] <crimsonmane> can anyone point me to a "working" fix to "Linksys WUSB600N" having slow, unreliable, constantly disconnecting, when it disconnects i have to disable networking then reenable networking...
[14:39] <erUSUL> anon_: sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[14:39] <Moonlit> pr0xy - all I did was change the font and font size, the rest is all default (except the wallpaper)
[14:39] <Moonlit> pr0xy - I sorta expected the rest of the UI to shrink with it, but it didn't
[14:39] <Moonlit> and I can't even make the panel there any smaller
[14:39] <RibPreto-Brasil> i'd like to make a reclamation, i cant download new ubuntu 10.10 because the 'enhanced' page takes me for an idiot who can download only by clicking, and i cant see the url to use with wget.
[14:40] <Moonlit> the properties dialog won't let me
[14:40] <defrysk> isnt the normal panel size 24 ?
[14:40] <ervis> pr0xy, ii have write something in private
[14:40] <pr0xy> I know, ervis.
[14:40] <Leapo> Moonlit: Try switching to Clearlooks. I think the default theme might be as broken as it is ugly.
[14:40] <Moonlit> defrysk - not sure
[14:40] <DyingDawn> do i have to have thunderbird running in order to use the notification-tool for the panel?
[14:40] <Moonlit> Leapo - alright, lemme try, one sec
[14:40] <Moonlit> Leapo - HOLY OUCH MY EYES
[14:40] <Leapo> O-o
[14:41] <erUSUL> RibPreto-Brasil: http://br.releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/
[14:41] <Leapo> What happened?
[14:41] <defrysk> Moonlit, also check howmany dpi your screen is
[14:41] <Super_Roach> Is there an update available for the netbook version of 10.10 yet? It's not available in the update manager, and apt-get dist-upgrade    finds nothing
[14:41] <Moonlit> Leapo - lol, that didn't help, it's still hideously oversized, only now it's old looking and bright grey too
[14:41] <RibPreto-Brasil> erUSUL Tks!
[14:41] <Moonlit> defrysk - where do I find that info in Ubuntu?
[14:41] <defrysk> Moonlit, snould be 96 probably
[14:41] <erUSUL> Super_Roach: maybe you have to enable normal updates in Software sources?
[14:41] <Leapo> Moonlit: How did you manage that? I can't get it to explode like that XD
[14:41] <defrysk> Moonlit, in appearance, fonts , details
[14:42] <Moonlit> huh, I never even knew that was there
[14:42] <Moonlit> it is on 96 though
[14:42] <defrysk> Moonlit, trij smaller and see what happens
[14:42] <defrysk> try
[14:42] <tranqui> is maverick out yet?
[14:43] <defrysk> tranqui, topic
[14:43] <penguin42> yep
[14:43] <erUSUL> tranqui: yes; see topic
[14:43] <AbhiJit> tranqui, read the cahnnel topic
[14:43] <tranqui> silly me
[14:43] <AbhiJit> :/
[14:43] <Moonlit> defrysk - hm, I tried smaller, it just shrinks the fonts and the window titlebars, not the rest of the UI
[14:43] <camason> hi guys. Does anyone know of a good Windows NFS client?
[14:43] <Moonlit> bigger makes it worse
[14:43] <cousin_mario> how do you edit the background picture on gdm now that gdm2setup is not available on maverick?
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> cousin_mario:  i just edit the default image.
[14:44] <cousin_mario> Dr_Willis: where from?
[14:44] <erUSUL> camason: the one that comes in SFU ?
[14:44] <Newbuntu_> k I'm back
[14:44] <KeithWeisshar> why does ubuntu 10.10 boot from live cd into command line only?
[14:45] <KeithWeisshar> how do i fix it
[14:45] <Moonlit> ok, I set it to 72dpi, I don't think it worked, but I'm rebooting to check
[14:45] <Newbuntu_> so u can download the ubuntu image file from the main site right?
[14:45] <defrysk> Moonlit, good luck
[14:45] <cupis> KeithWeisshar, netbook version? or desktop/server?
[14:45] <KeithWeisshar> desktop
[14:45] <Moonlit> ty defrysk
[14:45] <Moonlit> lol
[14:45] <crimsonmane> can anyone point me to a "working" fix to "Linksys WUSB600N" having slow, unreliable, constantly disconnecting, when it disconnects i have to disable networking then reenable networking...
[14:45] <cupis> KeithWeisshar, hmm, desktop version booted fine here from CD, but I had the same issue from an old USB stick
[14:45] <Moonlit> it looks the same, only smaller
[14:46] <Gryllida> updating from 10.04 to 10.10. the thing is stuck at the 'setting samba-common' step. no cpu activity. an error message follows. anything i can do except for close the update window and start over?
[14:46] <KeithWeisshar> i'm using the desktop 64-bit cd
[14:46] <Gryllida> GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.26.0/gobject/gsignal.c:3081: signal name `depressed' is invalid for instance `0xa6466e0' at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 120, <GEN6> line 15.
[14:46] <cupis> I put it down to dodgy media
[14:46] <LaraX> hi Gryllida :)
[14:46] <KeithWeisshar> i have a gtx 470 video card
[14:46] <Newbuntu_> pm me if u know how to optimize visual settings in ubuntu
[14:46] <Moonlit> http://s2.kimag.es/share/53133414.png < fail :P
[14:46] <MartyMcFly> How can i add a 32bit Third-Party Repository to my 64bit Ubuntu?
[14:46] <Gryllida> LaraX: hi
[14:46] <erUSUL> MartyMcFly: you don't. find 64 bit versions
[14:46] <KeithWeisshar> does anyone have any of the gtx 400 series video card
[14:47] <camason> I'll look up this services for unix
[14:47] <KeithWeisshar> all i get is a command line instead of gnome
[14:47] <erUSUL> KeithWeisshar: maybe you installed the server version ?
[14:47] <MartyMcFly> erUSUL: :(
[14:47] <MartyMcFly> erUSUL: There are none.
[14:47] <MrRoboto> has anyone managed to get ezcap video capture device to work under ubuntu?
[14:47] <erUSUL> MartyMcFly: what program ?
[14:48] <MartyMcFly> erUSUL: I want to add the backtrack-repos
[14:48] <erUSUL> MartyMcFly: what for?
[14:48] <ojii> happy 42 day everyone!
[14:48] <tranqui> KeithWeisshar: can you start gnome from command line?
[14:48] <Pr070cal> anyone having problems downloading nvidia drivers
[14:48] <ojii> I want to upgrade to 10.10 (from 10.04) but the upgrade tool wants to uninstall Miro which I would like to keep. why would it want to get rid of it and how can I prevent that?
[14:49] <mweijts> !ati
[14:49] <Leapo> Moonlit: I've managed to get the UI to look a bit less bulbous. Unfortunatly, there simply isn't enough control over font sizes, some of them can't be changed independent of one another that really should. Whoever thought up those default settings should be fired: http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/6311/ubuntu64bit201010100647.png
[14:49] <MartyMcFly> erUSUL: because many programs are included with much newer versions, ie kismet in a 2010 Version vs. a 2008 Version in ubuntu 10.10
[14:49] <erUSUL> ojii: maybe you used a third party repo ppa to get it? it will uninstall it. you can reenable the repo afterwards and reinstall it
[14:49] <cupis> ojii, you could upgrade and then re-install miro afterwards, assuming a version exists for 10.10
[14:50] <check3r> is there a simple editor which can format c code?
[14:50] <KeithWeisshar> no
[14:50] <erUSUL> ojii: usually is better to let the upgrade tool do its job then fix those little issues
[14:50] <KeithWeisshar> i have the desktop cd
[14:50] <Moonlit> Leapo - yeah, seems to me I could make the UI look less silly by bumping up the font size, but then everything's huge
[14:50] <KeithWeisshar> i don't have the server fversion
[14:50] <Pr070cal> im getting a lot of gateway timeouts ???
[14:50] <ojii> erUSUL, cupis but it will get rid of the configs etc?
[14:50] <Guest19984> check3r: emacs?
[14:50] <check3r> ty
[14:50] <erUSUL> MartyMcFly: well those programs wont work in 64 bits
[14:50] <tranqui> check3r: vim!
[14:50] <Leapo> And as you can see, the spacing in the tray area is really bad.
[14:50] <Moonlit> I'm still pissed that I can't turn off menu icons
[14:50] <crimsonmane> @ leapo @moonlit -- the all black default settings just so happen to be my absolute favorite.
[14:50] <erUSUL> ojii: no; configs are in your home
[14:50] <ojii> erUSUL, aha
[14:51] <sunshinepants> hm, ubuntu+1?
[14:51] <Leapo> crimsonmane: Seriously? There's so much wasted space. The fonts are all gigantic and there's extra padding everywhere.
[14:51] <ojii> o.O 900MB :(
[14:51] <crimsonmane> no the fonts are tiny
[14:51] <Moonlit> crimsonmane - it's not so much the theme that I find a problem, I like to shrink my fonts and stuff down, unfortunately the rest of the stuff on the screen doesn't shrink down with them
[14:51] <crimsonmane> it installed to my max resolution
[14:51] <MartyMcFly> erUSUL: ok, thank you.
[14:51] <Leapo> crimsonmane: On the default theme? The fonts are gigantic.
[14:51] <crimsonmane> lol leapo maybe i got lucky
[14:51] <Moonlit> the fonts are definitely quite big
[14:52] <MartyMcFly> erUSUL: i'll reinstall and take the 32bit Version then
[14:52] <Dr_Willis> I set my fonts to be size 12 or 13 , wife bumps hers up to size 16+
[14:52] <crimsonmane> everything on my system is tiny
[14:52] <crimsonmane> except its.... well... nevermind
[14:52] <crimsonmane> graphics card
[14:52] <Leapo> crimsonmane: Then maybe you have some freakishly high DPI monitor
[14:52] <Low_enduser> !ati
[14:52] <nouri> hi
[14:52] <nouri> i have a question
[14:52] <sunshinepants> old people often can't read small fonts, even 12pt
[14:53] <crimsonmane> leapo idunno... its a MAG i got for 80 bucks...
[14:53] <pr0xy> coz_ my md5 is WAY different
[14:53] <nouri> i have got a t41 thinkpad
[14:53] <crimsonmane> leapo idunno... its a MAG i got for 80 bucks...
[14:53] <crimsonmane> oops
[14:53] <crimsonmane> can anyone point me to a "working" fix to "Linksys WUSB600N" having slow, unreliable, constantly disconnecting, when it disconnects i have to disable networking then reenable networking...
[14:53] <nouri> but resume and hibernation is not working on ubuntu 10.10
[14:53] <Gryllida> updating to 10.10 from 10.04, the updater hang, anything i can do except close it off and try again?
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> pr0xy:  just a few bits differnt can change the md5 radically
[14:53] <ojii> will upgrade keep the binary video drivers?
[14:53] <nouri> with ubuntu 9.10 it works
[14:53] <trans> hello
[14:53] <trans> everyone
[14:54] <nouri> but i want to update my thinkpad
[14:54] <iflema> Moonlit gconf-editor, check /desktop/gnome/interface/menus_have_icons
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> Gryllida:  deends on where its hanging at.
[14:54] <minhtri> helo
[14:54] <minhtri> somebody in vietnam?
[14:54] <pr0xy> Dr_Willis do I need to redownload again?
[14:54] <Moonlit> iflema - I think I tried that ages ago, but in Ubuntu some of them are forced on regardless of that setting, but I'll try it again, thanks for the tip
[14:54] <nouri> resume is not working if i close the lid
[14:54] <Leapo> Also, why isn't there a "reset to defaults" button on the font settings tab?
[14:54] <Gryllida> Dr_Willis: currently at Setting up samba-common (2:3.5.4~dfsg-1ubuntu8) ...
[14:54] <Gryllida> GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.26.0/gobject/gsignal.c:3081: signal name `depressed' is invalid for instance `0xa6466e0' at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 120, <GEN6> line 15.
[14:54] <Leapo> That seems like a rather important thing to be missing
[14:54] <nouri> has anybody a solution????
[14:55] <Guest19984> nouri: what have you tried so far?
[14:55] <trans> I have installed 10.10 netbook edition, I often gets error msgs like serious kernel problem, n system seems to be slow, not smooth like 10.04, any solutions?
[14:55] <Gryllida> Dr_Willis: no cpu activity for like 20 minutes, it just hang
[14:55] <nouri> i am a newb in linzux
[14:55] <allu2> any idea why in the gwibber applet where you can write message to facebook wall the "Post to facebook:.." text doesn't dissapear when i begin to write (and sometimes the box to write doesn't appear at all even if i have gwibber open)
[14:55] <_kroson_> guys was the final release iso built on 07/10?
[14:55] <Moonlit> iflema - yup, no luck, it was already unchecked :(
[14:55] <nemchik> if i was running the RC how can i tell if i am now running the final release?
[14:55] <nouri> okay what i tried i tried to configure xorg.conf
[14:55] <aliverius> tell me one basic package to remove and remove together the whole gnome
[14:55] <_kroson_> nemchik: if you fully updated then you are at final
[14:55] <nouri> but this donßt work
[14:55] <minhtri> i dont want how to create a shortcut in desktop and change my desktop?somebody help me.please.thank much
[14:56] <nemchik> oh cool
[14:56] <Guest19984> nouri: first rule is to try before you ask. try to find forum posts etc using google
[14:56] <_kroson_> nemchik: go to terminal and write lsb-release -a
[14:56] <WXZ> how can I install gnome desktop from terminal
[14:56] <WXZ> but just the desktop, nothing extra
[14:56] <Low_enduser> Hi, quick questions does ati hd4xxx series supports lastest version of ubuntu? if so, how do i install it XD?
[14:56] <penguin42> Low_enduser: Yeh just install Maverick
[14:56] <_kroson_> Low_enduser: yes it does xD
[14:56] <penguin42> Low_enduser: The open drivers just work on my hd4350
[14:56] <_kroson_> just install 10.10 normally and the opensource drivers will work fine
[14:56] <Gryllida> Dr_Willis: any idea on what to do?
[14:57] <AndroUser> hi i was installing the upgrade andpower went
[14:57] <_kroson_> if they are not enough for you, you can install the proprietary ones easily too
[14:57] <aeon-ltd> WXZ: sudo apt-get gnome
[14:57] <minhtri> himanshu la gi the
[14:57] <aeon-ltd> WXZ: sudo apt-get install gnome (sorry missed ouit install)
[14:57] <AndroUser> now its not restarting
[14:57] <Low_enduser> _kroson_ & penguin42: thanks, I don't seems to get the resolution changed XD
[14:57] <penguin42> Low_enduser: Changed?
[14:57] <pr0xy> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is annoying as all heck!!!!!!!!
[14:57] <blackxx> hi all
[14:58] <Gryllida> pr0xy: please be more specific
[14:58] <himanshu> minhtri"?
[14:58] <crimsonmane> can anyone point me to a "working" fix to "Linksys WUSB600N" having slow, unreliable, constantly disconnecting, when it disconnects i have to disable networking then reenable networking...
[14:58] <himanshu> minhitri:?
[14:58] <Low_enduser> penguin42: yeah, it stucks on 800x600
[14:58] <minhtri> ban biet cah tao bieu tuong ngoai desktop hem
[14:58] <pr0xy> Gryllida I've had to redownload 10.10 like 4 times already!
[14:58] <minhtri> m moi dung xubuntu nen ....
[14:58] <penguin42> Low_enduser: Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log please?
[14:59] <Gryllida> pr0xy: Why?
[14:59] <cousin_mario> pr0xy: how so?
[14:59] <Low_enduser> !pastebin
[14:59] <WXZ> I get "Unmet dependencies"
[14:59] <julian_> he boys aa have a problem with the driver of nvidia 310M
[14:59] <WXZ> aeon-ltd:
[14:59] <julian_> pleas helpme
[14:59] <pr0xy> Gryllida, cousin_mario because it's always got the wrong effing md5
[14:59] <minhtri> @himanshu ban biet tao icon tren nen desktop hem
[14:59] <aeon-ltd> WXZ: what are they?, just instal them
[14:59] <Gryllida> cousin_mario:  < Gryllida> updating to 10.10 from 10.04, the updater hang, anything i can do except close it off and try again? 09:54 < Gryllida> Dr_Willis: currently at Setting up samba-common (2:3.5.4~dfsg-1ubuntu8) ...
[14:59] <Gryllida> 09:54 < Gryllida> GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.26.0/gobject/gsignal.c:3081: signal name `depressed' is invalid for instance  `0xa6466e0' at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 120, <GEN6> line 15.
[14:59] <cousin_mario> pr0xy: you have some problem with your pc, I fear
[14:59] <WXZ> are the dependencies going to have dependencies?
[14:59] <minhtri> minh change desktop nhung k dc
[15:00] <iflema> Moonlit now i think of it, that only works for the System menu only :S
[15:00] <SwedeMike> pr0xy: use the bittorrent one, it should be able to check each block so you get all correct data.
[15:00] <aeon-ltd> WXZ: btw its easier to just 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' although you do get a lot of junk with it
[15:00] <cousin_mario> pr0xy: it was faulty ram when it happened to me a while ago
[15:00] <pr0xy> it's a mac.
[15:00] <someNick> HI GUYZ
[15:00] <WXZ> ubuntu-desktop = extra packages
[15:00] <minhtri> ko nhan chuot trai duocc
[15:00] <julian_> The following error was encountered. You may need to update your configuration to solve this.
[15:00] <julian_> (EE) NVIDIA::failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module.
[15:00] <julian_> please check your
[15:00] <julian_> (EE) NVIDIA: system 's kernel log for additional error
[15:00] <julian_> messages.
[15:00] <FloodBot1> julian_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:00] <g0tcha> hey guys, can someone help me install my canon scanner/printer in ubuntu?
[15:00] <julian_> (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module-specificerror, 0)
[15:00] <aeon-ltd> WXZ: unlikely, usually it only goes down one level
[15:00] <someNick> HOW DO I SET UBUNTU
[15:00] <cousin_mario> pr0xy: macs can have faulty memory modules too...
[15:00] <someNick> EH???????????????
[15:00] <eriksson25> Anyone know how I chuld activate the Mantis drivers for tv cards that is implemented in the new kernell (from 2.6.33) Runing 10.10
[15:00] <aeon-ltd> !caps | someNick
[15:00] <erUSUL> WXZ: there is gnome-desktop metapackage iirc
[15:00] <WXZ> I'm just trying to get the bare-minimum
[15:00] <mareks> I need help to configure zend debugger in eclipse, linux platform
[15:00] <AndroUser> hi my computer restarted while ubuntu 10.10 was installing. now its stuck at gnome
[15:00] <someNick> how to set ubuntu
[15:00] <erUSUL> WXZ: even gnome-core
[15:00] <cousin_mario> pr0xy: give it a test if you don't find other problems
[15:01] <ojii> see you all on 10.10
[15:01] <WXZ> gnome-desktop comes bundled with extra stuff
[15:01] <pr0xy> It doesn't boot up with bad ram and I already checked.
[15:01] <aeon-ltd> WXZ: imo, if your going minimal, i wouldn't use gnome
[15:01] <Moonlit> iflema - yeah, that's what I found, it's really annoying because in 9.04 and earlier I always used to turn all the icons off because I think they look cartoonish and horrible, but now for no good reason I'm *forced* to keep them because the Ubuntu designers say so, it's unfortunate
[15:01] <erUSUL> !info gnome-core | WXZ
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> someNick:  ask a clearer question...
[15:01] <Leapo> Well, that's highly annoying. Windows aren't attaching to my mouse cursor correctly. They seem to drag behind the mouse cursor as I drag them around, rather than being locked on it.
[15:01] <WXZ> yeah, that's what I'm looking for erUSUL
[15:01] <eriksson25> Anyone know how I chuld activate the Mantis drivers for tv cards that is implemented in the new kernell (from 2.6.33) Runing 10.10
[15:01] <islandfellow> hello all trying to install ubuntu on a laptop with a trial version of windows 7 enterprise, and it hangs every time during the first ubuntu logo screen
[15:01] <pr0xy> use Xfce for minimalism.
[15:01] <penguin42> Leapo: Do you have desktop effects enabled?
[15:02] <Leapo> Almost like they're attached to the cursor with a rubber band
[15:02] <Leapo> penguin42: No.
[15:02] <WXZ> aeon-ltd: I'm not looking for the "bare-minimum" per se, just the bare minimum of the apps which I want to run (gnome being one of them)
[15:02] <pr0xy> cousin_mario It's not bad ram.
[15:02] <islandfellow> laptop has dual core intel 1.2 ghz 1 gb ram
[15:02] <vivien_m> Strange that Emacs is still in version 23.1 while 23.2 is out for while now.
[15:02] <vivien_m> I mean in 10.10
[15:02] <jamesjames> please vote for my english contest, if i win, a hot chick will buy me dinner: http://vote.sun0769.com/signup/action.asp?metaid=182&itemid=37955 thanks
[15:02] <aeon-ltd> WXZ: then erUSUL's suggestion is correct, gnome-core
[15:03] <LjL> jamesjames: please don't spam
[15:03] <penguin42> vivien_m: When did it come out? It would have had to come out and been in debian sid a few months ago
[15:03] <WXZ> is there an "encompassing" command
[15:03] <brad_> just want to ask this one more time, i shouldn't worry about backing up my ext4 files to an ntfs formated external usb disk, and then bring them back to ext4?  like it's not going to mangle the file names or file attributes?
[15:03] <cousin_mario> pr0xy: does the download terminate suddently?
[15:03] <pr0xy> jamesjames that's totally irrelevant
[15:03] <WXZ> that says "install package and all dependencies?
[15:03] <CkhiKuzad> I think the IRC ability for Empathy IM on 10.04 is broken or unsupported. I tried to connect a few minutes ago, and it lagged me out of EIM twice.
[15:03] <julian_> The following error was encountered. You may need to update your configuration to solve this.
[15:03] <julian_> (EE) NVIDIA::failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module.
[15:03] <julian_> please check your
[15:03] <julian_> (EE) NVIDIA: system 's kernel log for additional error
[15:03] <julian_> messages.
[15:03] <FloodBot1> julian_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:03] <julian_> (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module-specificerror, 0)
[15:03] <penguin42> brad_: I'd back up using a tar or the like
[15:03] <wers> the ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso I downloaded directly (not on torrent) doesn't match the md5 on http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/MD5SUMS . Do I just download again?
[15:03] <pr0xy> cousin_mario yes, when it's finished. lol
[15:03] <taCoUser4475> :@)
[15:03] <pr0xy> wers mine too
[15:03] <Leapo> penguin42: It's pretty obvious the two aren't linked together rigidly. Grabbing a title bar and dragging a window upwards has the cursor take off, followed a split second later by the window which follows the cursor along
[15:04] <uLinux> if I install using another name (not username) there is no problem right?
[15:04] <wers> pr0xy, what was your md5?
[15:04] <vivien_m> penguin42: Emacs 23.2 was in Sid in June already, as far as I know.
[15:04] <Paddy_NI> Hey I am trying to perform a regular update on ubuntu maverick and I am having errors about public keys, I have not added any software sources outside of what is default in 10.10 anyone know how I might scrub the current sources and get new ones?
[15:04] <cousin_mario> pr0xy: if it gets corrupted every time, you don't have much other options besides looking for faulty connections or hardware defects
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> wers:  or as a test.. start downloading via torrent.. then stop the download/pause it.. quit the torrent app. Copy that ISO to the torrent download directory in the right place.. restart the torrent  client and tell it to 'verify data' :)
[15:04] <wers> pr0xy, I got "f45ff05d8f54b6d34d48abbc8158dc4f "
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> wers:  that may save a lot of time.
[15:04] <Madura_hot_cam> hola
[15:04] <brad_> penguin42, you'd use a tar, eh?  that kind of takes for ever, with a ton of files, you don't trust ntfs?
[15:04] <espen77> anyone else having problems with encrypted home when first logging on in maverick?
[15:04] <pr0xy> wers 59d15a16ce90c8ee97fa7c211b7673a8
[15:04] <wers> Dr_Willis, great. thanks for the advice
[15:04] <eriksson25> Anyone know how I chuld activate the Mantis drivers for tv cards that is implemented in the new kernell (from 2.6.33) Runing 10.10
[15:04] <cousin_mario> Madura_hot_cam: es puta?
[15:04] <penguin42> brad_: Not as far as I can throw it
[15:04] <jpds> cousin_mario: Como?
[15:05] <Madura_hot_cam> como puta perro culiao
[15:05] <wers> pr0xy, so that's what you got? you got it right then
[15:05] <Leapo> Any way to fix that, or is the window manager really that poor?
[15:05] <pr0xy> wers srsly?
[15:05] <cousin_mario> Madura_hot_cam: the nick was misleaing...
[15:05] <nibbler_> is there an alternative install cd for unr? i need full disk encryption, not just this homedirectory stuff :/
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  sounds like some soft of video driver issue to me.
[15:05] <wers> pr0xy, yeah. why?
[15:05] <brad_> penguin42, had bad experiences, or heard bad things?  or just a msft hater like the rest of us? :-)
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  as a test try alt-f2 'metacity --replace' see if it then works better.
[15:05] <julian_> The following error was encountered. You may need to update your configuration to solve this.
[15:05] <julian_> (EE) NVIDIA::failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module.
[15:05] <julian_> please check your
[15:05] <julian_> (EE) NVIDIA: system 's kernel log for additional error
[15:05] <julian_> messages.
[15:05] <FloodBot1> julian_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:05] <julian_> (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module-specificerror, 0)
[15:05] <noob-tux--> why does firefox works slow in ubuntu 10.04? does anyone got the same problem? or is it just me? :(
[15:05] <Moonlit> flood fail
[15:06] <LjL> julian_: STOP PASTING
[15:06] <Out`Of`Control> hi, how do i update 10.4 to 10.10 ?
[15:06] <penguin42> brad_: The latter; but I doubt it would preserve the flags etc
[15:06] <julian_> ok
[15:06] <xukun> I lost all pcm sound through spdif. It was working before but I now think something is blocking it. Any idea what to do?
[15:06] <LjL> julian_: use - the - pastebin
[15:06] <pr0xy> wers dammit. I thought it was wrong so I redownloaded twice.
[15:06] <wers> pr0xy, see http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/MD5SUMS
[15:06] <vj> hello guys, is ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#bt is today's verson??
[15:06] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: Video drivers are installed and working correctly. That command made no change at all
[15:06] <pangeran> hy
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  that is odd then. what are your system specs/video card?
[15:06] <varunthacker> kudos for the new release. Last time when i did an upgrade it slowed down my system a lot. I was wondering if i could save the exact state pf my current system so that if an upgrade goes bad i can revert to it. I do not want to do a fresh install.
[15:07] <xukun> is there a command to restart pcm or pulseaudio something?
[15:07] <pr0xy> wers. I was looking at the wrong md5sum list. just redownload it.
[15:07] <nobarking> hello
[15:07] <iflema> Out`Of`Control in a terminal    sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[15:07] <jpds> vj: Yes.
[15:07] <Paddy_NI> varunthacker: You would be best to ghost your drive
[15:07] <Out`Of`Control> ty iflema :)
[15:07] <cousin_mario> pr0xy: PEBKAC then?
[15:07] <wers> pr0xy, aww. ok. at least you know now.hehe
[15:07] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: Phenom II X4 920 @ 4.0GHz, 8GB of DDR2 @ 1200MHz, Radeon HD 5850 (primary), GeForce GTX260 (secondary)
[15:07] <varunthacker> Paddy_NI, using?:
[15:07] <nobarking> is LibreOffice available in Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick?
[15:07] <jpds> nobarking: No.
[15:08] <pr0xy> cousin_mario what's PEBKAC?
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  Interesting a ATI and an nvidia card.. thats amazing it dosent burst out in a war...
[15:08] <Paddy_NI> varunthacker: clonezilla is nice
[15:08] <nobarking> anyone know any PPAs for LibreOffice?
[15:08] <vj> This is the busyest channel in freenode I think
[15:08] <Moonlit> Leapo - sorry, you need a faster box ;)
[15:08] <jpds> vj: Yes.
[15:08] <vj> hehe
[15:08] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: I usually run Windows. The HD5850 lets me game in Eyefinity and the GTX260 is a PhysX card
[15:08] <_kroson_> people if 2 md5sums match then it means that both files are exactly the same?
[15:08] <vj> all people are on their own,
[15:08] <_kroson_> sorry if this sounds too noob xD
[15:08] <BlueMatt> cousin_mario: Problem exists between keyboard and chair
[15:08] <penguin42> _kroson_: To all purposes yes
[15:08] <penguin42> _kroson_: There is a miniscule chance they are different
[15:09] <_kroson_> penguin42: thats because my ubuntu iso is dated 7th october
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:   it could be some odd quirk in how nvidia and ati work together (or fight together)  I dont touch ati any more.
[15:09] <penguin42> _kroson_: If the md5sum matches it's fine
[15:09] <Leapo> Moonlit: If I need a faster box to keep windows from lagging behind the cursor, then there's something terribly wrong with ubuntu :-P
[15:09] <erUSUL> _kroson_: yes;
[15:09] <pr0xy> hey!... dammit. someone sent me the wrong link and I'm tired as heck...
[15:09] <_kroson_> although i downloaded it today after the release announcement from ubuntu.com
[15:09] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: Switching the monitor to the Nvidia card made no difference. Same cursor lag. I've noticed this problem in a virtual machine as well.
[15:09] <CkhiKuzad> For my indicator applet, i want to use Thunderbird as my mail program (Evolution doesnt work with my gmail, and it uses too much CPU power). How would I do this?
[15:09] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: Seems to be inherent to the window manager
[15:10] <Moonlit> Leapo - maybe try swapping out your graphics card for something a little better supported, like uh... I dunno... S3 Virge? :P
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  first ive eer heard of it.. so i doubt that..  a virtual machine . would be using its own drivers also..
[15:10] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: Happening in VMWare and VirtualBox
[15:10] <semitones> what's that keyboard shortcut that brings up the terminal?
[15:10] <_kroson_> penguin42: true, i see that all isos are dated from 7th october
[15:10] <Leapo> Default installation with tools
[15:10] <Moonlit> windows seem to respond fine for my in VirtualBox
[15:10] <_kroson_> thank you penguin42 and erUSUL
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:   so you installed the ati and  nvidia drivers?
[15:10] <erUSUL> semitones: alt + f3 iirc
[15:11] <xangua> CkhiKuzad: evolution does work with gmail perfectly http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/thunderbird-ubuntu-notification-applet/
[15:11] <Low_enduser> penguin42: sorry for the delay, here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/510121/
[15:11] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: One, the other, both, no difference
[15:11] <semitones> erUSUL, i just had a look in Preferences, it's ctrl - alt - t
[15:12] <devkorcvince> exit
[15:12] <penguin42> Low_enduser: Sorry, I've forgotten the problem!  that doesn't look like the whole of the log ?
[15:12] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: You really don't notice that? Watch the cursor as you dag a window around, it doesn't stay in the same position relative to the window. Dragging a window upwards has the cursor off the top of the window with the window itself following along just behind.
[15:12] <Serg86> Hey, I have a problem with my microphone, it was working perfectly in Lucid, now after a clean install of Maverick, it doesn't. I've checked, it's not muted, it's selected as the primary recording source and so on, maybe it has something to do with pulse?
[15:12] <BUGabundo> booo
[15:12] <Leapo> I've been able to reproduce this on every system so far...
[15:12] <BUGabundo> darn mem leak
[15:12] <Low_enduser> penguin42: yeah, how do i copy the logs from terminal ?
[15:13] <Xeno__> Hi, can i record Ubuntu on a DVD+R?
[15:13] <penguin42> Low_enduser: Easiest way is to use the pastebinit command
[15:13] <ganeshran> hi everyone. my power went while upgrading to Ubuntu 10.10 and now the GNOME manager doesnt start at all. please help
[15:13] <penguin42> ganeshran: That can be very tricky to deal with
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  nope. never had that issue. except when the video drivers are totally mesed up  like im using the 'nv' drivers and compiz.
[15:13] <roxdragon> we
[15:13] <penguin42> ganeshran: Can you get a text terminal and sudo to root?
[15:13] <ganeshran> penguin42, any idea what i should do?
[15:13] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: Don't have it, or can't see it?
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  even my low end netbook dosent have the issue with compiz. If the drivers are set right.
[15:13] <xangua> Xeno__: yes, there is also an ubuntu dvd
[15:13] <roxdragon> 10.10 relese?
[15:13] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: It might be subtle
[15:13] <Leapo> Compiz is off, by the way
[15:13] <erUSUL> ganeshran: go to a terminal « crtl + alt + f1  » and finish the upgrade « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade »
[15:13] <ganeshran> how to get a text terminal? I have Ubuntu recovery mode in grub
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  try installing some other window manager like.. 'icewm' see if it has same issue in there.
[15:14] <penguin42> ganeshran: What do you see on your screen?
[15:14] <xukun> speaker-test -t wav -c 5 do not produce sound but I can hear ac3 with dvd. I think I that my pcm sound is dead I don't what to from here
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  you are also the first person ive ever seen thats had an ati and nvidia both in their system at the same time.
[15:14] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: Like I said, it happens on every system I've tried it on, including virtual machines
[15:15] <Leapo> This is just the most recent :-/
[15:15] <ganeshran> penguin42, i am now in windhows. On grub there are three entries with the recovery mode written on them. When I click it.  I stops after a while
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  virtual machines ON that machine you mean?
[15:15] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: Either way, same issue.
[15:15] <penguin42> Leapo: Virtual machines are a bit special; the way they update the video and mice are a bit weird
[15:15] <ganeshran> erUSUL, ubuntu is not logging in
[15:15] <Xeno__> With a DVD+R i only need 1 correct?
[15:15] <Leapo> penguin42: It happens if I boot into it as well
[15:15] <seemawn> although I asked this in #linux.de:
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  ive never noticed it in virtualbox either.  i often run live cd's in vbox on ubuntu.
[15:16] <vj> what is the difference between i386 and amd64 verson of ubuntu??
[15:16] <ganeshran> erUSUL, It just stops after sometime. The computer powered off right in between the upgrade process
[15:16] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: Look harder? lol
[15:16] <ruif13> hi,
[15:16] <toxictux> vj, 32bit and 64bit
[15:16] <seemawn> I hm I should not ask this here. This channel seeems to frequentated atm.
[15:16] <julian_> The following error was encountered. You may need to update your configuration to solve this.
[15:16] <julian_> (EE) NVIDIA::failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module.
[15:16] <julian_> please check your
[15:16] <julian_> (EE) NVIDIA: system 's kernel log for additional error
[15:16] <julian_> messages.
[15:16] <FloodBot1> julian_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:16] <julian_> (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module-specificerror, 0)
[15:16] <seemawn> forget about that.
[15:16] <penguin42> heck is he going to learn?
[15:16] <vj> toxictux: but both works on amd processors?
[15:16] <ruif13> hii :) i'm now upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 :)
[15:16] <ruif13> just now :D
[15:16] <toxictux> vj, yes
[15:17] <ganeshran> any help please...
[15:17] <ganeshran> how do i log into terminal when nothing is starting.
[15:17] <toxictux> vj, how much ram do you have?
[15:17] <[lan3y]> hey, is anyone else finding updating slow today?
[15:17] <erUSUL> ganeshran: run « sudo --configure -a » when it stops. then do again the apt line; if it stops repeat « sudo --configure -a »
[15:17] <vj> toxictux: 3gb
[15:17] <erUSUL> ganeshran: do that untill the two commands do nothing
[15:17] <LjL> julian_: seriously, which part of "don't flood" is so hard to get?
[15:17] <vj> toxictux: and you?
[15:17] <penguin42> ganeshran: What's the last thing you see on the screen, do you get a prompt or a login or the like?