[05:19] <JohnsonE> Chec: yes
[05:19] <kieranDOA> I think we should call hardware companies.
[05:19] <JohnsonE> f*
[05:19] <rendo> AngryElf, no it isn't. I did it in 10 minutes the very first time I installed ubuntu.
[05:19] <ChefWill> JohnsonE: sudo apt-get install unrar
[05:19] <intelikey> wine=wine is not an emulator
[05:19] <rendo> AngryElf I just need information, like a website with the instructions.
[05:19] <lonegeek> thomasM: i dont know but banshee worked right away............and i just loaded up mp3 with mplayer and it worked fine....i dont know
[05:19] <cduby1> CaptainMorgan, you trying to connect to a winders box or the other way around?
[05:19] <troy_s> greetz kieranDOA
[05:19] <kieranDOA> And tell them if they dont release open specs/drivers, We're going to eat the owners dog... or wife.. :P
[05:19] <thomasM> peregrino... http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[05:19] <Geoffrey2> intelikey, actually, I'd downloaded Crossover, and yes, I was hoping to use it as a Windows emulator
[05:19] <bootlick> Going to a swf link, i get the animation, but no sound?
[05:19] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Greetings :-)
[05:20] <bootlick> is there something i have to configure?
[05:20] <thomasM> lonegeek, banshee probably installed XING on you. love the banshee.
[05:20] <troy_s> kieranDOA: That's the spirit.  But I guess we need to be nice about it :)
[05:20] <planetcall> will it be possible to move or backup the downloaded java package from apt cache ?
[05:20] <intelikey> geoffrey2  wine=wine is not an emulator
[05:20] <JohnsonE> Chef: It says the package has no installation candidate
[05:20] <intelikey> Geoffrey2 vmware
[05:20] <lonegeek> thomasM lol yes...but its a bit slow on scrolling and searching..and doesnt keep order
[05:20] <winbond> does ubuntu clone user files??    /media/sda2/home/user and /media/sda3/user,    i have /home on a different partition the /root and it eppears like its cloninf files in these 2 directories
[05:20] <Saleel> to any that can help, I dont see the swiftfox/firefox>tools>options button complete noob please help?
[05:20] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Troy, Ill share the bbq'd dog, How about that? :P
[05:20] <nickrud> |_ocke, OK, i'm a gonna point you at http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/3dfx which says that the 3dfx is obsolete. I don't have a card to compare that wiki page to anymore (I went over it with a fine tooth comb) and I'm gonna ask that that page be deleted
[05:20] <thomasM> use qemu if you want to install windows inside ubuntu.
[05:20] <SAM_theman> Hey I am having problems on ubntu Dapper Drake
[05:20] <kieranDOA> troy_s: hehe, Just  messing, dogs rule :-)
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> winbond,  i think ya should recheck your mount points..  the answer is 'no' not that i have ever seen.
[05:21] <troy_s> kieranDOA: On a serious note, it _is_ the best way to have your voice heard.  We need to tell them...
[05:21] <JohnsonE> Chef: It says the package has no installation candidate
[05:21] <SAM_theman> brb
[05:21] <troy_s> kieranDOA: I have three, so yah.
[05:21] <Saleel> any help?
[05:21] <n30n> Is anyone getting bugs with the new Ubuntu verson?
[05:21] <NoWhereToTurn> Why does the Ubuntu installer check all of the aprtitons on a hard drive even those that have other distros on them
[05:21] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Just the one myself, and a snake.
[05:21] <lonegeek> you know what sucks about linux.....no good xvid encoders!
[05:21] <moose> ok, afk for the nite, thanks for the tips folks, its really appreciated!
[05:21] <moose> linux forever!
[05:21] <moose> :)
[05:21] <platypus> hmmm
[05:21] <rendo> Has anyone else had any problems burning the .iso?
[05:21] <platypus> seems to be some bad problems with libc6
[05:21] <rendo> My friend keeps doing it and none of them worked.
[05:22] <n30n> lonegeek: google.
[05:22] <cduby1> Saleel, what are you trying to do?
[05:22] <troy_s> lonegeek: There are a few good ones bro.
[05:22] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Yeah, I wonder if enough people emailed, called, wrote, bugged them theyd do it, doubtful though :(
[05:22] <lonegeek> n30n: ive been looking for 2 days straight.....i need something with a gui.....mencoder meh....avidemux wont let me encode video with pcm audio to lame audio
[05:22] <Saleel> cduby1: trying to find out how to get the firefox/swiftfox>tools>options button
[05:22] <lonegeek> troy_s: such as?
[05:22] <NoWhereToTurn> It is complaining about partition #2 of IDE1 has uncorrected errors..
[05:22] <winbond> Dr_Willis: how can i recheck the mountpoints?   i know i have same files in these 2 directories
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> lonegeek,  your need for a gui is your weakness. :P
[05:22] <|_ocke> :(
[05:22] <|_ocke> i want hardware accel
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> winbond,  'mount' command.
[05:22] <kieranDOA> saleel: you mean the options? Its in edit?
[05:23] <NoWhereToTurn> THe thing is that ubuntu is being installed in hdb14!!
[05:23] <lonegeek> Dr_Willis: lol....DO YOU WANT ME TO GO BACK TO WINDOWS?! ........i would assume no....
[05:23] <intelikey> winbond mount
[05:23] <cduby1> Saleel, uh, guess I'm not sure what you're referring to when you say "options button"......
[05:23] <kieranDOA> edit>preferences :-)
[05:23] <ReleaseX> I'm trying to get gtkwifi to work, nothing will show up when i try to refresh the list the wireless card works fine, and iwlist eth1 scan works, anyone know why this wouldn't work
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> lonegeek,  this is linux.. we dont care what you do. :P
[05:23] <Saleel> KieranDOA: jeebus thats not how it used to be in windows, thanks
[05:24] <lonegeek> Dr_Willis: your not much of a doctor....... doctors should care
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> lonegeek,  the video encoders i use under windows use ffmpeg as their backend. which is out for linux as well.
[05:24] <nickrud> |_ocke, trust me, hardware accel on a voodoo3 is nothing to talk about. Get a 5200 or 6200 from nvida
[05:24] <Saleel> cduby1:I guess its called preferences in linux
[05:24] <JohnsonE> ok so say I download RAR 3.60 beta for linux. it's a .tar.gz, so do i need to unarchive it first or can i install it directly from there?
[05:24] <nickrud> nvidia, even
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> lonegeek,  im into acupuncture with large blunt needles.
[05:24] <|_ocke> :P i cant afford to get pc133 right now heh
[05:24] <will> is it possible to mount a   *.vcd image   (made with an old version of 'virtual cd'
[05:24] <crys> is there a quick tip/trick for a usb mouse that doesn't wake back up after the computer comes back from standby mode?
[05:24] <lonegeek> Dr_Willis: well im looking for something similar to autogk for windows.....that is an amazing program
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[05:24] <ubotu> it has been said that rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[05:24] <kieranDOA> Saleel: dont worry, i use ff in Linux/os x and windows daily, all in different places, it does get confusing from time to time.
[05:24] <|_ocke> i have a 4x burner lol
[05:24] <cduby1> yeah, but I was a bit confused about the button reference you were talking about .......heh
[05:24] <intelikey> winbond home on /media/home is an odd setup  you don't have another /home dir do you?
[05:24] <|_ocke> gotta pay rent and pay for my truck first
[05:24] <SurfnKid> wow what a difference
[05:25] <nickrud> |_ocke, $30us, at a show or an outlet
[05:25] <|_ocke> im working on getting a nvidia 4200 though
[05:25] <|_ocke> pci
[05:25] <SurfnKid> my other laptop does let me download at 85+KB/sec thru an ad-hoc connection
[05:25] <qpt``> I LOVE GAY SEX
[05:25] <elephanthunter> ...
[05:25] <qpt``> I LOVE IT SO FAR UP MY ASS THAT IT POPS OUTTA MY MOUTH
[05:25] <kieranDOA> What is it with people and trucks?
[05:25] <qpt``> HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT CRAPFLOODS? I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM. HOW DO YOU FEEL
[05:25] <SurfnKid> yes
[05:25] <bootlick> Using wireless keyboard and mouse on drapper, all works fine, except for a Ubuntu help window popping up after about three sentences of typing
[05:25] <qpt``>  YOU FEEL ABOUT CRAPFLOODS? I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT
[05:25] <qpt``> EEL ABOUT CRAPFLOODS? I LIKE THEM. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT C
[05:25] <kieranDOA> qpt``: well thanks for that info
[05:25] <qpt``> EL ABOUT CRAPFLOODS? I LIKE THEM. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT CR
[05:25] <is> ugh, what is the app for sound control again?
[05:26] <NoWhereToTurn> Ubuntu installer is complaining about partition #2 of IDE1 has uncorrected errors..
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> yeah!
[05:26] <JohnsonE> oh man i totally forgot about 7zip. might as well use that.
[05:26] <qpt``> CRAPFLOODS? I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT CRAPFLOODS?
[05:26] <nickrud> me yawns, and uses his magic control key :)
[05:26] <Flannel> erm, Hobbsee
[05:26] <qpt``> APFLOODS? I LIKE THEM. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT CRAPFLOODS? I
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> block his IP
[05:26] <qpt``> HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT CRAPFLOODS? I LIKE THEM. HOW DO YOU
[05:26] <winbond> intelikey: i know i set up my /home mount point on a separate partition then /root
[05:26] <|_ocke> qjesus
[05:26] <Saleel> another question then, I installed the debian menu, and it doesnt show up at all, how do I fix this?
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> nalioth, trhanks
[05:26] <CaptainMorgan> cduby1: trying to connect to a win box/router
[05:26] <NoWhereToTurn> I am unable to boot this computer since I wiped out the previous install of Ubuntu
[05:26] <Flannel> Hobbsee: it's ok ;)
[05:27] <SurfnKid> Now i hate windows more than before
[05:27] <nalioth> nomasteryoda: anybody else in that group?
[05:27] <nickrud> Saleel, Apps_>Accessories->Menu Editor
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> not that I know of
[05:27] <intelikey> winbond that's not what i meant.   what are you doing looking at that from the live cd or something ?    why is it in /media ?
[05:27] <bootlick> No sound on a SWF file I have , i belive all the files installed for swf, works fine on my windows box, what more can i try?
[05:27] <JohnsonE> oh my goddd why is it such a hassle to figure out how to open a rar file
[05:27] <hangfire> does anyone know how I can set the transparency on the console window so I can see windows (documents) benieth the console instead of the desktop?
[05:27] <Saleel> Thanks nickrud
[05:27] <cduby1> CaptainMorgan, so what have you done so far?
[05:27] <SurfnKid> hangfire: are you on Dapper
[05:27] <kieranDOA> Im loving flux :-)
[05:27] <Snoops> I can use alien to create a deb from a rpm right?
[05:27] <elephanthunter> Is there a way I can reset my sound settings? I was messing around with the volume control and now I no longer have any sound.
[05:27] <hangfire> yes
[05:27] <CaptainMorgan> JohnsonE: that's pretty damn easy
[05:27] <hollowlife1987> Snoops: yes
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> rar e
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> unrar e
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> JohnsonE,  install the right package and the archive guis can use them. or use the shell
[05:27] <SurfnKid> hangfire:  no idea :/
[05:27] <Arafangion> JohnsonE, Just install unrar
[05:27] <Flannel> Snoops: yep, if you cant find the program as a deb
[05:28] <Flannel> !tell Snoops about alien
[05:28] <hangfire> k thx anyway surfnkid
[05:28] <Snoops> yeah I can't find xvidcap for amd64..
[05:28] <CaptainMorgan> cduby1: downloaded smb4k, gave the smbmnt sudo permission and started smb4k, the client sees the workgroup, but that's it
[05:28] <intelikey> ah the bell.  back in a bit.
[05:28] <winbond> intelikey: when i click on storage media it shows my 3 partitions , i guess thats why it calls it media
[05:28] <CaptainMorgan> can't connect
[05:28] <Arafangion> JohnsonE, Non free, indeed, but that's what you get for using non-conventional formats.
[05:28] <qpt``> HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT CRAPFLOODS? I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM.  I LIKE THEM. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT
[05:28] <qpt``> FEEL ABOUT CRAPFLOODS? I LIKE THEM. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT
[05:28] <issy> how do you change the audio settings in ubuntu, again?
[05:28] <tga> does anyone have any idea how to get an Orinoco card working on Dapper?
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> persistant biotch huh
[05:28] <gbkyle> anybody running a linksys WMP11 wifi card on dapper?
[05:28] <Arafangion> Why is qpt`` somehow bypassing my xchat /ignore qpt`` all ?
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> tga, those should work otu of box
[05:29] <nickrud> soop, what does a 20% increase of average members on this channel mean, over a year ago?
[05:29] <nalioth> Arafangion: he's coming in on different IPs
[05:29] <SurfnKid> forever gone
[05:29] <elephanthunter> I've already tried resetting my sound with sudo invoke-rc.d alsa-utils reset, but that doesn't work.
[05:29] <Snoops> means they're doing the right thing nickrud :D
[05:29] <Arafangion> nalioth, I see, I figured /ignore nick would only do a nick match.
[05:29] <lonegeek> why is it that any xvid encoder that sounds good is only for dvd to xvid?
[05:29] <cduby1> CaptainMorgan, I'm assuming you've got the workgroup settings all correct and all, yes?
[05:29] <tga> nomasteryoda: something is messed up in Dapper.. everything used to work fine in Breezy
[05:29] <nickrud> Snoops, you got me :)
[05:29] <nalioth> Arafangion: depends on the client,
[05:29] <drcode> hi all
[05:29] <rendo> He's proxying. :o
[05:29] <tga> nomasteryoda: now I get everything right in iwconfig but I can't get an ip
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> lonegeek,  why is it people like to complain instead of  research. :P
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> tga, the wireless manager is different here
[05:29] <drcode> any one know if I can put fonts from windows xp to abiword?
[05:29] <gbkyle> Yea i agree, somethings messed up with Dapper and wireless
[05:30] <Saleel> nicrud:  sorry, but there isnt any menu editor. do I install it?
[05:30] <Arafangion> nalioth, I'm explicitly mentioning xchat :)
[05:30] <SurfnKid> brb
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> i love it
[05:30] <tga> nomasteryoda: I also tried a 2.5.12 kernel and it's the same deal
[05:30] <meheren> how can do i compile a c source code file?
[05:30] <lonegeek> Dr_Willis, ive been searching for days....although your ffmpeg tip helped
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> way bettern' breezy imho
[05:30] <JohnsonE> ok guys i'm having one heck of a time getting rar files to work.
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> drcode,  linux can use the windows fonts.. and abiword uses them..
[05:30] <Flannel> !tell meheren about build-essential
[05:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell meheren about compile
[05:30] <hangfire> meheren, do you have gcc installed?
[05:30] <issy> meheren: check gcc
[05:30] <kieranDOA> meheren: You need gcc.
[05:30] <crys> meheren: gcc typically
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> lonegeek,  :P i just use it to convert my videos to psp format.
[05:30] <drcode> I need to convert it?
[05:30] <drcode> or somthing?
[05:30] <elephanthunter> About the wireless thing, the NetworkManager applet works very well.
[05:30] <kieranDOA> then just gcc file.c -o file
[05:30] <CaptainMorgan> cduby1: outside my box, yes - I can conenct to it with every other computer on the network and share whatever... but trying to get my Kubuntu box to connect to teh already working workgroup fails
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> JohnsonE, did you search the apt repos for rar?
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> lonegeek,  i think the world needs yet MORE video codecs and formats! we dont have near enough
[05:30] <kieranDOA> You might need to link with some libs though :-)
[05:30] <drcode> It seems that AbiWord dosnt recognize it
[05:30] <elephanthunter> But you're probably talking about drivers or something.
[05:30] <meheren> crys, gcc path_to_file.c?
[05:30] <NoWhereToTurn> what the heck is going on with Daper Ubuntu! Is it still buggy??
[05:30] <tga> nomasteryoda: it Just Doesn't WOrk for me.. with 2.6.16 I can't even associate with the AP
[05:31] <HellDragon> k
[05:31] <winbond> intelikey: when i click on storage media it shows my 3 partitions , i guess thats why it calls it media?
[05:31] <ReleaseX> I'm trying to get gtkwifi to work, nothing will show up when i try to refresh the list the wireless card works fine, and iwlist eth1 scan works, anyone know why this wouldn't work
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> NoWhereToTurn,  life is buggy. :P
[05:31] <tga> NoWhereToTurn: yes
[05:31] <hangfire> but after you have gcc installed its still not on the path, you have to install something else, forgot the name
[05:31] <issy> NoWhereToTurn: dude, I updated, and I regret it!  everything on my system is messed up now
[05:31] <tga> issy: I hear you
[05:31] <hangfire> meheren gcc filename.c -o filename
[05:31] <issy> tga: is there any easy way to downgrade it?
[05:31] <tga> issy: not that I know of
[05:31] <NoWhereToTurn> issy: what version should I use so I can get grub working and get this box back up and running???
[05:31] <meheren> hangfile, ok thx
[05:31] <winbond> intelikey: system:/media/sda3 is my /home mount point
[05:32] <crys> meheren: yes - if it's a single file and you want an exe - make path_to_file (without the .c extension) will usually work too
[05:32] <issy> NoWhereToTurn: use Breezy Badger
[05:32] <JohnsonE> I just installed unrar-free from synaptic and I STILL can't open rar files. I tried sudo apt-get install unrar and that didn't work.
[05:32] <stevekl> I have a 2.4 ghz machine that I use (among other things) as a linux file server, from which I stream big files (videos). Now this works pretty well. Now I have this other machine, it's (apparently) a 448 mhz. If I use this as my primary file server, will things stream more slowly because the computer is low-end?
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> tga, did you install the hostap driver?
[05:32] <stevekl> Or is the only limiting factor network speed?
[05:32] <hangfire> meheren be sure your file is in your current directory, probably your home directory
[05:32] <winbond> intelikey: system:/media/sda2 is my / mount point
[05:32] <NoWhereToTurn> Breezy Badger is avaiable off www.ubuntu.com
[05:32] <tga> nomasteryoda: I blacklisted the hostap modules as suggested in launchpad but that didn't help
[05:32] <NoWhereToTurn> ?
[05:32] <issy> JohnsonE:  try command rar [rared package]
[05:33] <we2> how to load mp3s ? can it be done ?
[05:33] <elephanthunter> !sound
[05:33] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[05:33] <issy> JohnsonE:  I think there is also a plugin for the Archive Manager you can get so you can use it to unrar packages
[05:33] <tga> nomasteryoda: I am using the orinoco/orinoco_cs modules
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> right
[05:33] <kieranDOA> !mp3
[05:33] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell we2 about mp3
[05:33] <issy> !tell we2 about restricted formats
[05:33] <hangfire> does anyone know how I can set the transparency on the console window so I can see windows (documents) benieth the console instead of the desktop?
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> tga, but are you using the new wireless manager
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> gnome-network-manager?
[05:34] <JohnsonE> issy: it says that th command "rar" isn't found
[05:34] <nalioth> JohnsonE: install 'unrar-nonfree' using synaptic
[05:34] <tga> nomasteryoda: I don't have a gnome-network-manager
[05:34] <Snoops> hangfire this is with xgl/compiz?
[05:34] <tga> nomasteryoda: I'm just using iwconfig and dhclient
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> ah, well that is what i'm using
[05:34] <hangfire> bash
[05:34] <JohnsonE> nalioth:  i did, it didn't do anything.
[05:34] <issy> JohnsonE:  try man unrar-free (if that's what it's called
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> works evertime
[05:34] <gbkyle> Maybe a stupid question, but is there any difference performance wise between breezy and dapper?
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> "automatically"
[05:34] <nalioth> JohnsonE: it should.  unrar-nonfree works on everything
[05:35] <kieranDOA> Johnson: sudo apt-get install unrar
[05:35] <kafitz> hi, does anyone have an experience with crossover office?
[05:35] <NoWhereToTurn> Brezzy is 5.10 of Ubuntu?
[05:35] <hangfire> nalioth- just the regular bash shell
[05:35] <kieranDOA> then use unrar
[05:35] <kieranDOA> :-)
[05:35] <JohnsonE> kieran: i try that and get this:
[05:35] <tga> nomasteryoda: gnome-network-preferences?
[05:35] <kafitz> *any
[05:35] <nomasteryoda> just sec tga
[05:35] <issy> JohnsonE:  okay it's command:  unrar-free [file]
[05:35] <platypus> how do i forcefully remove libc6 from my system ?
[05:35] <Flannel> NoWhereToTurn: yes
[05:36] <elephanthunter> Would installing skype have turned off the sound on my computer? I swear it's not that I've muted anything.
[05:36] <JohnsonE> issy: ok it tried to extract but all the files failed :O
[05:36] <cduby1> CaptainMorgan, do you have static IPs on your network?
[05:36] <AngryElf> how do i kill that silly update-notification bubble for good?
[05:36] <Geoffrey2> kafitz, I'm using a demo version....not sure that I'm very impressed with it so far
[05:36] <issy> JohnsonE:  I got that before....
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> called "network-manager-gnome"
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> tga, that is it
[05:36] <supertanker> Yo
[05:36] <JohnsonE> issy: hoe'd you fix it?
[05:36] <steev-dell> hey all, after doing an update today, i get the following when i run locale, and it appears that perl is borked (but working i think) http://pastebin.ca/64678
[05:36] <issy> JohnsonE:  haha, don't remember
[05:36] <issy> JohnsonE: lemme look into it
[05:37] <kieranDOA> JohnsonE: where are you trying to extract to and the files arent corrupt are they?
[05:37] <tga> nomasteryoda, that only contains proxy information, nothing about wireless
[05:37] <supertanker> Hey whoever told me to create a new user to fix my "Cannot log in because it cannot identify the user" problem: didn't work. I had to reinstall from scratch
[05:37] <kafitz> Geoffrey2: well i have a problem perhaps you could help me wtih? or have any alternatives ofr microsoft office?
[05:37] <nomasteryoda> er, ok
[05:37] <JohnsonE> kieran: I'm extracting to desktop
[05:37] <winbond> Dr_Willis:  system:/media/sda3 is my /home mount point, system:/media/sda2 is my / mount point  ,  i have /home/user in sda3 and sda2, it clones files in these 2 directories
[05:37] <nomasteryoda> tga, the backen network-manager does the work and gets you online...
[05:37] <tga> nomasteryoda, do you mean System > Administration > Networking?
[05:37] <nomasteryoda> JohnsonE, that depends on the rar file...  many include par files
[05:37] <issy> JohnsonE: what's the file's complete extension?
[05:38] <elephanthunter> I really hope that I don't need to reinstall dapper from scratch to reset the sound...
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> tga, dapper?
[05:38] <tga> yes
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> tga, try running that command
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> it should put a tool in the tray
[05:38] <JohnsonE> issy: FruityloopsStudio.608.rar
[05:38] <Geoffrey2> kafitz, I haven't tried to install Microsoft Office using Crossover Office yet, and with OpenOffice coming with Ubuntu for free, I'm not likely to fiddle with it, to be honest
[05:38] <roostishaw> how do i assign a partition to be a users home directory?
[05:38] <kafitz> Geoffrey2: cause I really need to you publisher. After I installed Microsoft Office 2003, whatever app i click from the menu I get a "Could not launch menu item
[05:38] <kafitz> Details: Failed to execute child process "/home/user/.cxoffice/win2000/desktopdata/cxmenu/StartMenu/Programs/Microsoft+Office/Microsoft+Office+Publisher+2003" (Permission denied)"
[05:38] <tga> nomasteryoda, that's just a front end.. all it does really is run dhclient in the background
[05:39] <kafitz> Geoffrey2: oh nevermind then
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> JohnsonE, that tool is called par2archive
[05:39] <xonic> !restrictedformats
[05:39] <ubotu> see !restricted
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> tga, ok
[05:39] <xonic> !restricted
[05:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[05:39] <JohnsonE> nonmsateryoda: elaborate?
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> then that is the extent of my knowledge
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> JohnsonE, just sec
[05:40] <tga> nomasteryoda, hmm.. there is a network-manager-gnome, I'll give it a try
[05:40] <n30n> I need a good emulator. NOT WINE.
[05:40] <_ubuntu> What's wrong with WINE?
 be more specific
[05:40] <nomasteryoda> JohnsonE, the file is called parchive
[05:40] <polpak> n30n: emulator for what?
[05:40] <elephanthunter> Blah, I guess I'm gonna start downloading that dapper dvd now. Hopefully I can find out what caused my sound to totally turn off before it happens again after reinstalling dapper.
[05:40] <n30n> Running a linux windows envirment
[05:40] <nomasteryoda> JohnsonE, and par2
[05:40] <nomasteryoda> those should allow
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> fixing the using the par files
[05:41] <river> Hi .. can someone please help me create a symlink for Java on Ubuntu 6 ...
[05:41] <polpak> river: why?
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> JohnsonE, just use "man par2" after installing
[05:41] <SAM_theman> Now everyone look at my Dapper Drake Desktop its still not done
[05:41] <elephanthunter> n3on: Wine is the best emulator out there.
[05:41] <SAM_theman> http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3xb.png
[05:41] <issy> got it
[05:41] <SAM_theman> Still more worki
[05:41] <polpak> elephanthunter: wine is not an emulator
[05:41] <JohnsonE> nonmaster: so i should install parchive?
[05:41] <SAM_theman> *work
[05:41] <lonegeek> anybody know of a xvid encoder with a gui
[05:41] <river> polpak: because the kids want to play a game that requires Java and I think I need a symlink
[05:41] <drumline_> yee haw...   even more folks in here
[05:41] <n30n> It's not really an emulator
[05:41] <issy> JohnsonE:  try this: unrar -e [file]
[05:41] <polpak> river: you just need to install sun java most likely
[05:42] <polpak> river: see !java
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> lonegeek,  check freshmeat.net
[05:42] <polpak> !tell river about java
[05:42] <stevekl> river: You make your children play games on linux?
[05:42] <elephanthunter> polpak: Wine is an emulator.... it emulates the function of Windows.
[05:42] <JohnsonE> issy: command not found
[05:42] <will> bummer that Wine will not run Connectix Virtual Game Station  .....   psm emulator
[05:42] <polpak> elephanthunter: no it doesn't
[05:42] <will> psx
[05:42] <drumline_> anyone use VMWare on Ubuntu?
[05:42] <kieranDOA> wine isnt an emulator
[05:42] <river> polpak: thanks .. i will see if that helps me out
[05:42] <nomasteryoda> JohnsonE, install par2
[05:42] <n30n> Elephanthunter: do you know that wine stands for wine is not an emulator?
[05:42] <lonegeek> what would be a good starting poing to learn to program...more specifally create linux programs
[05:42] <stevekl> drumline_: A long time ago
[05:42] <kieranDOA> It impliments win32API
[05:42] <elephanthunter> hahah
[05:42] <drumline_> kieranDOA: yes it is..  :)
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> there are native ps1 emulators for linux.
[05:42] <river> stevekl: no, they chose too play games on linux
[05:43] <elephanthunter> That's just a silly acronymn :P
[05:43] <drumline_> stevekl: you used workstation?
[05:43] <nickrud> if I knew what to watch for, it might be more interesting
[05:43] <issy> JohnsonE: then what the heck program am I using ? o.)
[05:43] <polpak> elephanthunter: seems apropo to me
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> JohnsonE, if you are working from normal rar archives most do have par data to repair them
[05:43] <n30n> It's not an emulator. Its a linux extension for windows programs
[05:43] <drumline_> elephanthunter: well..  it's perfectly in line with all the other silly acronyms like GNU  :)
[05:43] <drumline_> n30n: is too
[05:43] <polpak> lonegeek: learn  a programming language
[05:43] <drumline_> yes huh!
[05:43] <stevekl> drumline_: I remember running XP in vmware a while ago
[05:43] <kieranDOA> drumline_: on what basis, It doesnt 'emulate' windows, it impliments win32api, unless im mistaken
[05:43] <XVampireX> elephanthunter, WINE IS NOT AN EMULATOR
[05:43] <stevekl> drumline_: It worked pretty well, actually
[05:43] <drumline_> stevekl: how was it?
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> SAM_theman, if you use flickr then you get no ad bs...
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> SAM_theman, http://www.flickr.com/photos/nomasteryoda
[05:44] <tga> nomasteryoda, I installed network-manager-gnome.. any idea what the front end is called?
[05:44] <drumline_> stevekl: cool...  were you able to gain access to the USB ports and all that jazz?
[05:44] <XVampireX> n00bs, go away
[05:44] <JohnsonE> nonmaster: ok i got par2 and ran man par2. what should i do?
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> there's mine and some good wallpaper for you
[05:44] <Sephiroth> Is RPM enabled in ubuntu by default?
[05:44] <n30n> Wine works as a way to run windows programs in linux, not emulate windows in linux
[05:44] <nickrud> Sephiroth, no
[05:44] <xonic> anyone here installed the w32 codecs with xine?
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> tga, it should be in the tray now
[05:44] <stevekl> drumline_: It actually worked very well. Vmware gave windows fake sound output and networking, and windows just went with it without complaining.
[05:44] <RealKnight> Hi ubuntu users
[05:44] <lonegeek> polpak: i had figured so...but what is a os indepedent one... C#, C?
[05:44] <elephanthunter> Wow, is this some big thing? I mean, WINE is obviously an emulator, despite the name.
[05:44] <polpak> !tell Sephiroth about rpm
[05:44] <stevekl> drumline_: Yeah USB worked as well
[05:44] <RealKnight> I am from Colombia South America
[05:44] <xonic> anyone here installed the w32 codecs with xine?
[05:44] <drumline_> stevekl: schweeeet!
[05:44] <stevekl> drumline_: Now 3d games didn't work, but that might work nowadays
[05:44] <supertanker> lonegeek: c++
[05:44] <tga> nomasteryoda, mmkay, I'll give it a reboot
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> nope
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> no need
[05:44] <kiko0123> SAM_theman, which IM client is that?
[05:44] <n30n> elephanthunter, an emulator actually opens windows. IT makes it look as if you are logged in a windows install. Wine runs windows software in linux itself
[05:44] <polpak> lonegeek: C isn't terribly os independant. ANSI C is, but really you'll have to use cross platform libs. I'd suggest starting off with something clean and simple
[05:45] <RealKnight> I want to know if somebody have compiled GRASS 6.0.2 on Ubuntu
[05:45] <kieranDOA> Python :-)
[05:45] <polpak> lonegeek: like python or ruby (my preference is python)
[05:45] <issy> JohnsonE:  try apt-get install unrar
[05:45] <issy> JohnsonE: leave off the "free"
[05:45] <schalken> is there a way to install an rpm (i have alien) through the GUI?
[05:45] <n30n> PowerPC is an emulator
[05:45] <JohnsonE> issy: i do that and get..
[05:45] <stevekl> drumline_: Well I didn't test anything USB except the mouse, for what it's worth
[05:45] <kieranDOA> elephanthunter: I dont understand how you clasify WINE as an emulator.
[05:45] <gbkyle> anybody running a linksys WMP11 wifi card on dapper?
[05:45] <xonic> anyone here installed the w32 codecs with xine?
[05:45] <n30n> gbkyle:yeah
[05:45] <polpak> schalken: no, you use alien to convert the rpm into a deb, you can then install the deb with dpkg
[05:45] <Geoffrey2> elephanthunter, actually, if you go to the Wine website...they say flat out, this is not an emulator
[05:46] <issy> xonic:  I think I did once...
[05:46] <JohnsonE> issy: it says Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:46] <JohnsonE> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:46] <JohnsonE> is only available from another source
[05:46] <JohnsonE> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[05:46] <JohnsonE> bah sorry
[05:46] <gbkyle> n30n, it just worked? Its finding my card but I cant connect to my router
[05:46] <xonic> issy: remember wich site?
[05:46] <JohnsonE> need to remember i'm not supposed to do that
[05:46] <tga> elephanthunter, Wine Is Not an Emulator
[05:46] <xonic> issy: i found this one great sire but i reinstalled so i lost it
[05:46] <issy> JohnsonE: odd, it's showing up for me
[05:46] <elephanthunter> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/windows-emulation/wine-faq/ << Classifies WINE as a Windows emulator as well. I'm not the only one :P
[05:46] <polpak> elephanthunter: you don't really understand what an emulator is, clearly.
[05:46] <n30n> gbkyle: Try shutting down, and booting up with the card not installed, and then shut down and install the card again.
[05:46] <stevekl> Antec makes good cases, right?
[05:47] <tga> nomasteryoda, fancy, it spins!
[05:47] <issy> xonic:  you can just get it off the ubuntu archive
[05:47] <dave__> hi
[05:47] <gbkyle> n30n, like take the card out, then put it back in?
[05:47] <n30n> gnkyle: I seem to remember thats how i got mine to work.
[05:47] <dave__> montoone is suppose te be installed with ubuntu
[05:47] <nomasteryoda> tga, cool
[05:47] <dave__> does anyone know where ic an find that package int he repository
[05:47] <gbkyle> n30n, thats weird lol
[05:47] <nomasteryoda> it also should get you on
[05:47] <issy> xonic:  apt-cache search w32codecs
[05:47] <nomasteryoda> =D
[05:47] <JohnsonE> should i just download 7zip and get it over with? :|
[05:47] <drumline_> stevekl: yeah.. .that would be cool if 3d worked..   but hey.. I don't play games anymore.  So, it's all gravy.
[05:47] <n30n> gbkyle: yes, but boot up linux with it out once. ANd then restart and put it in.
[05:47] <gbkyle> n30n, alright..
[05:47] <stevekl> dave__: uh, 'apt-cache search montoone'?
[05:47] <dave__> i did
[05:47] <dave__> letme try again
[05:47] <schalken> polpak: okay can only be done through the CLI, thanks!
[05:47] <CaptainMorgan> cduby1: no - dhcp
[05:47] <crimsun_> dave__: did you misspell 'monotone'?
[05:47] <elephanthunter> Hahah, I'm a programmer. I am logical. I understand that WINE emulates windows functions in the linux environment without the need of a virtual machine. Hence, wine is an emulator.
[05:47] <issy> JohnsonE:  if you wanna, I don't see why unrar isn't showing up for you
[05:48] <nickrud> dave__, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:48] <roostishaw> how can i tell if a folder is a seperate partition, or just another folder?
[05:48] <n30n> gbkyle: if it doesn't work just come back and i will assist you further.
[05:48] <stevekl> drumline_: Yeah, why is that? Are they not allowed to, or is vmware just unable to?
[05:48] <polpak> elephanthunter: it does not "emulate" anything
[05:48] <drumline_> stevekl: Thanks for your input...  :)   ...I plan to switch the base OS to linux completely and run XP where it should be...  From within a cage...
[05:48] <lonegeek> in bash how do i go up one folder?
[05:48] <n30n> drumline_ lol
[05:48] <JohnsonE> issy: ok should i download the i386 version of 7zip? >_>
[05:48] <stevekl> Speaking of vmware, can you run OSX in vmware?
[05:48] <drumline_> stevekl: I think it was a problem related to demand...
[05:48] <kieranDOA> elephanthunter: I dont under stand how a different implimentation of something is an emulator.
[05:48] <nickrud> roostishaw, I've always used mount to see my mounts
[05:48] <polpak> elephanthunter: you clearly don't get it. If you are a programmer you should understand the difference between emulating a windows environment and implementing an API
[05:48] <issy> JohnsonE:  never used 7zip, have fun with it :)
[05:48] <roostishaw> nickrud, just type  mount?
[05:49] <winbond> == system:/media/sda3 is my /home mount point, system:/media/sda2 is my / mount point  ,  i have /home/user in sda3 and sda2, it clones files in these 2 directories, why does it do it?
[05:49] <n30n> polpak: thank you. You are my hero.
[05:49] <crimsun_> JohnsonE: sure, it's p7z in universe.
[05:49] <issy> stevekl: you can, like, run anything in vmware, just don't expect it to run very well
[05:49] <nickrud> roostishaw, mount | sort makes it clearere
[05:49] <nickrud> rem_, clearer
[05:49] <drumline_> n30n: :-)  1 XP with the quickbooks install running on its own network...   and the other for any stupid non-standard internet crap we occasionally run into..
[05:49] <RealKnight> Does somebody has any experience with GRASS?
[05:49] <xonic> issy: it didn't do anything
[05:49] <stevekl> issy: huh, ok
[05:49] <crimsun_> JohnsonE: sorry, p7zip.
[05:49] <nickrud> erm, roostishaw clearer: mount | sort
[05:49] <johnnyrusso> what package do i need to get my line in playing thru my speakers? realtek chip
[05:49] <tga> nomasteryoda, the network manager is fancy and all but it doesn't seem to fix the problem.. still no IP
[05:49] <n30n> drumline: sweet.
[05:49] <issy> xonic:  okay, for some reason stuff is comin' up on my apt-cache searches that isn't coming up for other people
[05:49] <roostishaw> nickrud, thank you!
[05:49] <issy> that's weird
[05:50] <crimsun_> johnnyrusso: none, just adjust the Line element.
[05:50] <elephanthunter> Are you guys trying to mess with me? WINE is just as much an emulator as LAME is an mp3 encoder.
[05:50] <drumline_> n30n: you hear about Pacifica?
[05:50] <JohnsonE> ok i just installed the pzip package. how do i get to it :(
[05:50] <johnnyrusso> crimsun_: found where?
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> tga, you using encryption?
[05:50] <n30n> drumline_: nahuh
[05:50] <nickrud> elephanthunter, I'd guess so then
[05:50] <gbkyle> n30n, by the way, which version of the WMP11 do you have?
[05:50] <issy> JohnsonE:  try man pzip
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> tga, turn card off and on again
[05:50] <tga> nomasteryoda, yes, 64-bit wep
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> elephanthunter,  you are confused as to the definiton of emulator
[05:50] <issy> JohnsonE:  that should tell you all you need
[05:50] <n30n> gbkyle: uhhhh idk ill go look
[05:51] <gbkyle> n30n, ok thanks..
[05:51] <winbond> == system:/media/sda3 is my /home mount point, system:/media/sda2 is my / mount point  ,  i have /home/user in sda3 and sda2, it clones files in these 2 directories, how can i fix it?
[05:51] <kieranDOA> elephanthunter: My bike has wheels, is it emulating a bus?
[05:51] <JohnsonE> issy: no manual for p7zip
[05:51] <drumline_> n30n: AMD's answer to Intel's VT.   It's the tech that significantly lowers the overhead on running virtual operating systems.  It is in all AM2 socket chips and Intel's newer chips..
[05:51] <johnnyrusso> does ubuntu have a volume control panel like windows?
[05:51] <n30n> gbkyle: 2.7?
[05:51] <xonic> anyone know how to install the w32codecs and xine?
[05:51] <river> polpak: when I tty to add it, I get a msge that says it isn't available ...
[05:51] <gbkyle> n30n, ok.. i got the original one i think
[05:51] <issy> kieranDOA:  what an interesting way to start a philosophical discussion
[05:51] <nickrud> winbond, that is not clear: if you'd post /etc/fstab on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:51] <Geoffrey2> it would be nice if i could just do away with Windows...but at this point there is simply some software that I haven't found a good Linux subsitute for YET...so either I find a way to run it under Ubuntu well, or keep a dedicated XP partition for that stuff
[05:51] <n30n> drumline_: i see.
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> !w32codecs
[05:52] <ubotu> a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular non-free formats. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for 64-bit systems see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[05:52] <issy> JohnsonE:  okay, it's p7zip, you downloaded and installed the package, and it has no manual?
[05:52] <n30n> Am i the only one that has tried windows vista?
[05:52] <johnnyrusso> what about support for ati Xx00 chips on the 64bit version?
[05:52] <Sephiroth> No
[05:52] <xice> Geoffrey2, have you tried Cedega, or Crossover office
[05:52] <stevekl> issy: Do you happen to know if a non-x86 operating system can run on vmware on a x86 syste
[05:52] <stevekl> m?
[05:52] <drumline_> n30n: instead of 30% overhead, it's down to 5%...   pretty sweet stuff.  Anyway...  with a dual core, it'll be a breeze to run 3-4 operating systems at once...    And when the quad cores come out later this year, the sky will be the limit...
[05:52] <JohnsonE> issy: i typed p7zip and got "no manual entry"
[05:52] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, without exact needs, no one can recommend replacements
[05:52] <issy> stevekl:  not personally, no
[05:52] <johnnyrusso> steveki no
[05:52] <SAM_theman> I love my nvidia card
[05:52] <JohnsonE> man p7zip*
[05:53] <SAM_theman> http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot39nm.png
[05:53] <stevekl> johnnyrusso: orly
[05:53] <n30n> drumline_: sweetness
[05:53] <kieranDOA> yarly
[05:53] <johnnyrusso> stevekl: what?
[05:53] <river> can anyone help me to get Java working in Ubuntu 6?
[05:53] <elephanthunter> kieronDOA: Considering that the bus has added functionality and was created after the bike, it probably would not be classified as an emulator.
[05:53] <drumline_> I want a quad core right now...  *sniffle*
[05:53] <n30n> oh god I'm so tired
[05:53] <stevekl> cave
[05:53] <tga> nomasteryoda, not a chance :\
[05:53] <elephanthunter> bleh, I mean the bike wouldn't
[05:53] <n30n> so tired i can't talk computers correctly...
[05:53] <drumline_> n30n: hit the sack...   see you tomorrow.  :)
[05:53] <Geoffrey2> I'm using Crossover office at present...the most recent version of Media Player it supports is 6.4
[05:53] <issy> JohnsonE:  okay, you got p7zip using apt-get install, right?
[05:54] <Fr0Gs> hey all
[05:54] <Fr0Gs> SAM_theman, yo!
[05:54] <n30n> drumline_: yeah that's the plan. see ya.
[05:54] <Fr0Gs> lol
[05:54] <nomasteryoda> tga, hmmm wep should be fine... using it here too but 128bit
[05:54] <JohnsonE> issy: I downloaded it from synapti
[05:54] <kieranDOA> elephanthunter: Same goes for windows(Not the latter part of your statement obviously), its more than just an API.
[05:54] <winbond> nickrud: im not sure what you mean by /etc/fstab,
[05:54] <drumline_> n30n: peace
[05:54] <ToHellWithGA> yarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[05:54] <SAM_theman> YO frogs!!!!
[05:54] <xice> Geoffrey2, well media player is never meant for linux
[05:54] <di> hi, how do i install anjuta 2.02
[05:54] <di> apt installs 1.24
[05:55] <ToHellWithGA> di: go to the project webpage and build it from source
[05:55] <nickrud> winbond, Apps->Accessories>Text Editor, use that to open /etc/fstab.  Wine is obviously just emulating the functions of the Windows API on linux. It's silly to even talk about this :P
[05:57] <ToHellWithGA> who is tga?
[05:57] <ToHellWithGA> that's, like, a shortening of my nick
[05:57] <nomasteryoda> er nope
[05:57] <ToHellWithGA> i'm entirely too lost
[05:57] <nomasteryoda> tga that is
[05:58] <Snoops> including the bugs :)
[05:58] <winbond> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15586 here it is
[05:58] <Sephiroth> Have any of you guys attempted the get computer help in an AIM chatroom?  It's impossible.
[05:58] <Dr_Willis>  emulating the functions of the api is not the same as a 'emulator' that emulates hardware.
[05:58] <kieranDOA> elephanthunter: Lets just agree to disagree?
[05:58] <elephanthunter> Yeah, that's a virtual machine, Dr_Willis
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> Sephiroth,  the only things ive seen in AIM chat rooms is XXX spam bots.
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> elephanthunter,  no.. thats somthing else :P
[05:59] <Snoops> isn't that like trying to get help in an AIM chatroom Sephiroth..oh wait..
[05:59] <ToHellWithGA> Sephiroth: that's so silly you made me laugh a belly laugh
[05:59] <elephanthunter> Dr_Willis, depends on how much hardware you emulate.
[05:59] <Sephiroth> Well if you've ever been to a chatroom in aim.....
[05:59] <thomasM> belly laugh... lol.
[05:59] <SAM_theman> Fr0Gs, type etswitch for linux in google
[06:00] <stephan__> for some reason my connection is screwing up in dapper.....is they're a  way i can test it or see whats wrong
[06:00] <Sephiroth> I mean if it's not bots, it's retards talking about sex
[06:00] <nickrud> winbond, winbond == system:/media/sda3 is my /home mount point, system:/media/sda2 is my / mount point  ,  i have /home/user in sda3 and sda2, it clones files in these 2 directories, how can i fix it?
[06:00] <ToHellWithGA> stephan__: sudo umount all
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> elephanthunter,  now you are just rambling...
[06:00] <drumline_> Just think..  when Microsoft drops support altogether for Win2k, a security firm will take over and charge for their own security updates...
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emulator  - the definitive answer. :)
[06:00] <troytroy> hi what does this error mean "/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build: No such file or directory"
[06:00] <winbond> nickrud: yes? are you asking me my question?
[06:00] <drumline_> There might even be some profitability to that market..
[06:01] <detectiveinspekt> i upgraded to dapper but open office is missing. Does the upgrade uninstall it?
[06:01] <Sephiroth> ^wikipedia knows all
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> ToHellWithGA,  that works for windows tech support!
[06:01] <troytroy> and how do i resolve it
[06:01] <ToHellWithGA> Dr_Willis: hooray!
[06:01] <thomasM> nickrud thats wierd. i think what happened, is one time you logged in, and you didn't have the correct permissions for sda3, so it asks you if you'd like to make your home in root, I think that's what happened.
[06:01] <ToHellWithGA> i am drunk and will go eat
[06:01] <ToHellWithGA> peace out
[06:01] <SAM_theman> Fr0Gs, ??
[06:01] <xice> you hear that theres security problems in win98/ME that MS cant even fix :p
[06:01] <elephanthunter> At the bottom there is "See Also: ... WINE" :P
[06:02] <nickrud> thomasM, hm. Cuz the fstab of winbond
[06:02] <nickrud> 's is very standard.
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> elephanthunter,  and that proves nothing.
[06:02] <ToHellWithGA> xice: NO WAI!
[06:02] <lonegeek> is there anything similar to frontrow for linux? any sort of simple media center
[06:02] <Sephiroth> xice, I've never seen Microsoft make a halfway decent operating system.
[06:02] <ubuntu> First, I've googled, with several phrases and I've read a lot about it but not a lot about how to fix it from my current situation. I'm having an issue similar to the one described in the following URL, however, all I can get to is the BusyBox prompt like they said and the drives are locked in this live version of Kubuntu Dapper that I am currently running. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/32123
[06:02] <ToHellWithGA> they can fix the windows 98 issues but aren't willing to do it for free as "updates"
[06:02] <kieranDOA> "Wine Is Not an Emulator" (rather, it implements a compatibility layer),
[06:03] <Geoffrey2> xice, well, considering both OS's are hitting the end of their support cycle with this next security release, they really don't have much incentive to even try
[06:03] <nickrud> winbond, you mention /home/usrr in sda3  & sda2,  that doesn't make sense
[06:03] <John-Z> good lord.
[06:03] <elephanthunter> Dr_Willis, I've just cited the article that you decided was the "definitive answer".  I have tried every howto on getting the drivers recognized for 3d excel.
[06:03] <xice> im actually in the phase of completelt removing my NTFS formatted drives
[06:03] <Sephiroth> That's why I use linux whenever I can, rarely a need for security upgrades.
[06:03] <John-Z> SPent 5+ hours.
[06:03] <issy> *sigh*  I hate it when I can't find a manual for something
[06:03] <Sephiroth> I can't stand windows anymore.......
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> elephanthunter,  and im sick of your trolling.
[06:04] <winbond> nickrud: i know , but thats the way it is on my pc
[06:04] <Consty> Whats the best way to go about optimizing ubuntu to reduce memory usage?  I only have 192 megs of ram and a lot of swap space is used.
[06:04] <NoWhereToTurn> It is going to take an hour to get breezy via the torrent.. seems I have nothing but a struggle with ubuntu.. is this usually the case with this distro?
[06:04] <ToHellWithGA> John-Z: you need MS Excel in 3D?  It's a spreadsheet for god's sake.
[06:04] <winbond> nickrud: can i post screenshots there?
[06:04] <kieranDOA> elephanthunter: Click on the wine link in the wikipedia article, It does clearly state that it is NOT an emulator, therefore you cited nothing.
[06:04] <Sephiroth> Stop argueing about WINE please.
[06:04] <John-Z> No!
[06:04] <Sephiroth> Just agree to disagree.
[06:04] <elephanthunter> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatibility_layer
[06:04] <John-Z> sorry, typo.
[06:05] <ubuntu> Yes, Evildler, I get the /dev/hda1 cannot be found error and from the best I can tell that is the problem, I just don't know how I can reconfigure it without being in a workable Kubuntu installation that lets me have access to that drive.
[06:05] <John-Z> 3d rendering.
[06:05] <ToHellWithGA> John-Z: that's what you said.  "I have tried every howto on getting the drivers recognized for 3d excel."
[06:05] <winbond> nickrud: actually i dont even know how to take a screenshot with using linux
[06:05] <elephanthunter> "A compatibility layer allows binaries for an emulated system to run on a host system."
[06:05] <nickrud> winbond, /etc/fstab defines your drives, and how they are mounted. It looks very normal.   OpenOffice forever :p
[06:05] <Consty> NoWhereToTurn: What are your problems with it?
[06:05] <ToHellWithGA> what's not working John-Z?
[06:05] <EvilIdler> ubuntu: IF you can get an earlier kernel package installed from the recovery mode of the install CD/DVD, yaird can be installed.
[06:05] <John-Z> Apparently the new ati driver is not supported with my card.
[06:05] <issy> ToHellWithGA:  if only OpenOffice had necessary functions in its spreadsheet program
[06:05] <winbond> nickrud: that /home/user/ is in 2 different partitions with exactly the same files
[06:06] <John-Z> I have a radeon 9000 M9
[06:06] <John-Z> So.. I installed the driver manually..
[06:06] <EvilIdler> ubuntu:I upgraded from Breezy and had the same problem, but sorted it by booting the Breezy kernel, installing yaird and making my own initramfs
[06:06] <NoWhereToTurn> Consty well for one I wiped out my old hoary isntall thinking that I could get draper installed
[06:06] <ToHellWithGA> issy: if only MS Office weren't so damned goofy about its implementation of fairly simple functions in Excel
[06:06] <troy_s> issy: Well it isn't going to get them if people fail to use it.
[06:06] <NoWhereToTurn> I can not even get past the partitioner
[06:06] <detectiveinspekt> i upgraded to dapper but open office is missing. Does the upgrade uninstall it?
[06:06] <John-Z> Its still showing the mesa driver.
[06:06] <Consty> NoWhereToTurn: how much memory do you have?
[06:06] <John-Z> Not the ati driver I installed.
[06:06] <nf4> this freenose thing is a joke
[06:06] <Sephiroth> I'm suprised I even see "MS" or "Windows" in an Ubuntu support channel.
[06:07] <EvilIdler> ubuntu:Alternatively, I can upload my working initramfs somewhere so you can try it
[06:07] <kholerabbi> How do I defragment my hdds
[06:07] <issy> ToHellWithGA:  I suppose you can either have easy complex functions, or easy simple functions, but not both *shrug*
[06:07] <ToHellWithGA> John-Z: is there a .conf file you should point to your driver?
[06:07] <nickrud> winbond, not according to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15586 . There is no /home/user defined there, only /home
[06:07] <nf4> is there any freenode mods in here
[06:07] <John-Z> no.
[06:07] <nf4> the freenode channle is blocked
[06:07] <nf4> you cant get any help
[06:07] <JohnsonE> ok this rar stuff is really starting to piss me off :(
[06:07] <NoWhereToTurn> Consty: I think in that box about 284MB
[06:07] <NoWhereToTurn> 384MB
[06:07] <Nichirasu> I have a question
[06:07] <issy> JohnsonE:  yeah, I gave up with p7zip
[06:07] <troy_s> JohnsonE: issue?
[06:07] <ubuntu> Evildler: That would probably be the best for me, as I've only been using linux for a few weeks so most of that is way over my head for the moment. I can provide FTP access to a server.
[06:07] <nf4> the one person that i can / msg told me to foff
[06:07] <Nichirasu> when I try and run ettercap from the terminal window I keep receiving this message
[06:07] <troy_s> JohnsonE: What is your issue with rar???
[06:07] <Nichirasu> Please select an User Interface
[06:07] <issy> troy_s:  he needs to unrar something
[06:07] <John-Z> Has anyone installed and gotten the ATI drivers to work on slightly older ATI card?
[06:07] <Consty> NoWhereToTurn: and what happens when you get to the partitioner?  have you tried the alternative install cd instead of the desktop?
[06:08] <kholerabbi> CAN you defragment hardrives under linux - is it even neccesary?
[06:08] <EvilIdler> ubuntu: OK, message me privately and we can try sorting your ramfs :)
[06:08] <issy> troy_s, he can't seem to get unrar from the ubuntu archive
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> kholerabbi,  not needed.
[06:08] <elephanthunter> Anyhow, I wasn't always here to argue about whether or not WINE is an emulation system. In all reality, I came here because my Google searches did not bear fruit to solve my sound issues. If anybody knows a decent way to reset or reconfigure the sound on Dapper, I would be greatly appreciative.
[06:08] <John-Z> Im still showing fglrx is still using the mesa drivers.
[06:08] <JohnsonE> troy: no issue, i just can't get any archiver working!
[06:08] <NoWhereToTurn> If I want to use 1 partition for ubuntu it has to be / ... correct?
[06:08] <troy_s> JohnsonE: Did you add the rar package?  If you add unrar you get full support in the default archiver.
[06:08] <winbond> nickrud: i know , /home is a mount point ,  /user is my account username which is in the / partition and /home partition
[06:08] <Consty> John-Z: I have, a big thing was that gnome wouldn't work period.. it would default in 640x480
[06:08] <kholerabbi> Dr_Willis: Would it be possible to derag an ntfs drive then?
[06:08] <JohnsonE> try: i tried rar, unrar, unrar-free, p7zip... none worked
[06:08] <kieranDOA> kholerabbi: You CAN, but its not as necisary as in windows,
[06:08] <Nichirasu> it doesn't say which interface to choose though so I'm not sure what to type
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> kholerabbi,  i would not eevn want to attempt such a thing.
[06:08] <kholerabbi> OK cheers :)
[06:09] <Consty> John-Z: The problem ended up being that the detection couldn't read the settings of my monitor so I had to manually edit xorg.conf and add them, after finding out what my refresh rates were via ddcprobe then it worked perfect.
[06:09] <kholerabbi> lol thanks
[06:09] <troy_s> JohnsonE: Do you have a sample file?  It works flawlessly here.
[06:09] <John-Z> Im trying to implement xgl.. but the rendering is so damn slow because fxglrx will not recognize the correct drivers.
[06:09] <Nichirasu> all it says is "Please select an User Interface"
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> kholerabbi,  you dont want to write to ntfs under linux. much less defrag it.
[06:09] <JohnsonE> troy: i have a file, yes.
[06:09] <Consty> John-Z: So I would suggest checking your xorg.conf and seeing if you have Horiz and Vert syncs in there.
[06:09] <k31th> Anyone know a way of intergrating windows / linux auth ? we have windows and linux  servers (we are a school). And when kids forget a password its a PITA... anyone know of a way atm the linux box is running LDAP and the windows servers are Active Directory.
[06:09] <nf4> i dont get it my nick is registerd
[06:09] <nf4> but when i type my pass it says it is worng
[06:09] <John-Z> Consty: The display is fine.. im speaking about 3d rendering.
[06:09] <JohnsonE> troy: i type sudo apt-get install rar and it says there's no installation candidate
[06:09] <kieranDOA> Damnit, again, misread a comment, I really need to start reading what people say properly.
[06:09] <nf4> and it wont let me idenitfy my self
[06:09] <Consty> John-Z: Oh, ati sucks.. sorry :(
[06:09] <crimsun_> JohnsonE: enable multiverse
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> !info rar
[06:10] <John-Z> apt-cache search rar
[06:10] <ubotu> rar: (Archiver for .rar files), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.30-2ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 236 kB, Installed size: 476 kB
[06:10] <John-Z> try that.
[06:10] <Nichirasu> any help would greatly be appreciated
[06:10] <Nichirasu> thanks
[06:10] <nf4> so i cant /msg people
[06:10] <troy_s> JohnsonE: unrar is there...
[06:10] <Consty> just run apt-get unrar-nonfree
[06:10] <nickrud> winbond, it should only exist on the /home partition
[06:10] <kholerabbi> I am trying it install java for firefox, on Sun's website there is only rpms and bin files.. What is the best way to install java?
[06:10] <issy> troy_s:  maybe he needs the multiverse settings on?
[06:10] <John-Z> bin file
[06:10] <troy_s> Package: unrar Priority: optional Section: multiverse
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> kholerabbi,  its apt-get able now. no need to mess with suns site
[06:10] <nickrud> winbond, it meaning, the home for your user
[06:10] <JohnsonE> troy: tell me what to do and i'll try it.
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> !info java
[06:10] <xice> kholerabbi, the .bin
[06:10] <Nichirasu> I downloaded ettercap fom the synaptic download manager
[06:10] <troy_s> JohnsonE: What do you use for a package manager?  Synaptic or apt-get?
[06:10] <Consty> khorlerabbi: Use synaptic and search for java jdk, and install it along with the mozilla java plugin.
[06:11] <kholerabbi> Dr_Willis: It is - Nice :)
[06:11] <elephanthunter> Thanks to the wonders of the new Java licensing <.<
[06:11] <JohnsonE> troy: i've tried both
[06:11] <Daverag> Anyone knows how to send an HTML message from the command line with mail ?
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> kholerabbi,  sun just recently changed their license. so it can be done
[06:11] <issy> I'm off to bed peeps
[06:11] <NoWhereToTurn> Trying Draper again.. This time I am getting "Not yet implemented" This ext2 file system has a rather strange layout! Parted can't resize this (yet).
[06:11] <troy_s> JohnsonE: You will need to add a repository to your sources.list... load synaptic and I'll step you thru it.
[06:11] <Nichirasu> anyone?
[06:11] <issy> outties
[06:11] <kholerabbi> Eccelente - what's the package called?
[06:11] <NoWhereToTurn> What th heck is this distro doing?
[06:11] <JohnsonE> troy: loaded.
[06:11] <ubuntu> Evildler, I'm trying to register my nick so I can message you now.
[06:12] <troy_s> JohnsonE: Under settings->Repositories
[06:12] <EvilIdler> ubuntu: You could join #nodev, too
[06:12] <kholerabbi> nickrud: why?
[06:12] <JohnsonE> troy: yeah
[06:12] <winbond> nickrud: yes , you are right , but i have the home for my user cloned on the root partition
[06:12] <troy_s> JohnsonE: Under the Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (binary) highlight... click the EDIT button.
[06:12] <Nichirasu> ???
[06:12] <nickrud> kholerabbi, cuz they seldom understand dfsg ? :)
[06:13] <JohnsonE> try: check multiverse?
[06:13] <JohnsonE> troy***
[06:13] <neoxan> help
[06:13] <troy_s> JohnsonE: Check them all :)
[06:13] <neoxan> Entpacke sun-java5-jre (aus .../sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb) ...
[06:13] <neoxan> sun-dlj-v1-1 license could not be presented
[06:13] <SAM_theman> Guys I can't open gedit as root!!!
[06:13] <neoxan> ?
[06:13] <kholerabbi> :)
[06:13] <neoxan> how to fix that?
[06:13] <RamiKassab> hey guys, is there a way to ensure that the repositories apt is searching have the most updated software? The xchat-gnome app I am using is version 0.11 and I did "sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome" and it says I have the newest version but the newest version at xchat.org is 2.6.4
[06:13] <troy_s> SAM_theman: sudo gedit
[06:13] <Nichirasu> could somebody help me with this please?
[06:13] <nickrud> winbond, based on what you showed me on the pastebin, this clone stuff makes absolutley no sense sofar
[06:13] <NoWhereToTurn> Why am I am getting "Not yet implemented" This ext2 file system has a rather strange layout! Parted can't resize this (yet).???
[06:13] <troy_s> SAM_theman: or gksudo gedit
[06:13] <neoxan> does anyone else have problems with java5 sun package?
[06:14] <lonegeek> can geexbox be installed within ubuntu?
[06:14] <neoxan> "sun-dlj-v1-1 license could not be presented"
[06:14] <JohnsonE> troy: sudo apt-get install rar still says no installation candidate
[06:14] <NoWhereToTurn> Resize? I never told it to resize a partition!!
[06:14] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/703752
[06:14] <kholerabbi> Do I just install the Java Web Start package??.. Or is there a smaller package - I just want to run it in Firefox??
[06:14] <troy_s> ramikassab:  it will be whatever the repository has as latest
[06:14] <redrum> jre2 SAM_theman
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> neoxan,  not really  - BUT install it with synaptic. not the apt-get/apitude cli commands.
[06:14] <troy_s> JohnsonE: You are in synaptic right?
[06:14] <SAM_theman> huh??
[06:14] <redrum> j2re even
[06:14] <bobertdos> To anyone with any advice: is there a way to safely remove previous images of Ubuntu after and upgrade, or do they depend on one another?
[06:14] <JohnsonE> troy: yes
[06:14] <troy_s> JohnsonE: How about we do what I suggested first, click edit, check all the boxes.
[06:14] <SAM_theman> Java?
[06:14] <neoxan> why not Dr_Willis, thats the same, isnt it?
[06:14] <redrum> SAM_theman yes.
[06:14] <JohnsonE> troy: i did
[06:14] <winbond> nickrud: do you have /home on separate partition then root?
[06:14] <SAM_theman> And i need to edit somthing to
[06:14] <troy_s> JohnsonE: Ok now click SEARCH
[06:15] <redrum> use the synaptic manager
[06:15] <SAM_theman> whats jre2 have to do with that?
[06:15] <troy_s> JohnsonE:  sorry, first you need to click the RELOAD button.
[06:15] <RamiKassab> troy_s: why is it saying 0.11 is the latest though? 2.6.4 is the latest at xchat.org
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> neoxan,  if it was the same.. it would work both ways.. :P theres an 'issue' with the java package and how the messages get shown during install
[06:15] <troy_s> RamiKassab:  Is that version a fork?
[06:15] <RamiKassab> you mean an offshoot for gnome?
[06:15] <JohnsonE> troy: ok what do i search
[06:15] <troy_s> JohnsonE: Done that yet?
[06:15] <troy_s> RamiKassab: Exactly, my brother.
[06:16] <JohnsonE> troy: yes
[06:16] <neoxan> ok, thanks Dr_Willis, its works
[06:16] <RamiKassab> troy_s: :) not sure, very well could be since the package name is xchat-gnome
[06:16] <neoxan> :*
[06:16] <RamiKassab> troy_s: do you use gnome?
[06:16] <RamiKassab> troy_s: I mean do you use xchat
[06:16] <troy_s> RamiKassab: Most everything in good old Ubuntu is geared towards Gnome if you use Ubuntu and KDE if you use KDE
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> neoxan,  aparently that little 'eula' popup dont work right when using it from the shell.
[06:16] <troy_s> JohnsonE: Ok now click SEARCH, and using NAME type "unrar"
[06:17] <JohnsonE> troy: done
[06:17] <k31th> is there a channel for edubuntu ?
[06:17] <JohnsonE> troy: applying the install now
[06:17] <RamiKassab> troy_s: removing xchat using apt and just downloading it myself from xchat.org would be fine though wouldn't it?
[06:17] <kieranDOA> Time for a  cuppa' brb
[06:17] <RamiKassab> troy_s: I mean, I don't necessarily have to use the xchat-gnome package for it to work
[06:17] <troy_s> JohnsonE: Once that is done, and applied, theoretically you should have unraring within the archiver.  Also the CLI version of unrar will do all the multi-parts for you.
[06:17] <Fujitsu> k31th, #edubuntu/
[06:17] <Fujitsu> *?
[06:17] <bigfoot1> i switched over from Ubuntu to Xubuntu. where's the icon on my drawer? 	i don't even know the program name 	to make it run from terminal. but it's called X-Lite Softphone
[06:17] <troy_s> RamiKassab: No you don't... that just steers it towards the GNOME look and feel via GTK etc.
[06:18] <bobertdos> k3lth: Yes, it is #edubuntu, also on this server
[06:18] <drumline_> bigfoot1: right click?
[06:18] <JohnsonE> troy: ahhh thank you so much, it worked
[06:18] <n30n> Drumline_: can't sleep :(
[06:18] <bigfoot1> drumline_: nothing to rightclick
[06:18] <troy_s> JohnsonE: Glad I could be of service.
[06:18] <bigfoot1> it's gone
[06:18] <RamiKassab> also, this is a random question but how do you change your pass in IRC? I registered this nick and would like to change the pass
[06:18] <bigfoot1> the icon is gone
[06:18] <troy_s> RamiKassab: Try /msg nickserv help
[06:18] <drumline_> n30n: you ever wake up sore?
[06:18] <Fujitsu> RamiKassab, you could just use the xchat package. I don't use xchat-gnome...
[06:18] <drumline_> bigfoot1: right click on the open desktop
[06:18] <n30n> drumline_ Sometimes
[06:18] <kieranDOA> I just downloaded xchat from apt-get, Using 2.6.1
[06:19] <drumline_> n30n: 1 sec
[06:19] <Fujitsu> kieranDOA, same.
[06:19] <troy_s> kieranDOA: I think he was looking at the version for xchat-gnome.
[06:19] <bigfoot1> drumline_: i'm on xubuntu
[06:19] <RamiKassab> Fujitsu: you downloaded it right from their website though right?
[06:19] <Fujitsu> troy_s, yes, he was.
[06:19] <Fujitsu> RamiKassab, no.
[06:19] <nickrud> ah, xchat. xchat-gnome is a bust
[06:19] <bigfoot1> what's the command to run X-Lite
[06:19] <bigfoot1> ?
[06:19] <RamiKassab> troy_s: thanks
[06:19] <neoxan> xchat-gnome sucks
[06:19] <neoxan> :(
[06:19] <Fujitsu> RamiKassab, just install the `xchat' package, rather than `xchat-gnome'.
[06:19] <drumline_> bigfoot1: never tried it...   I sometimes see the minimalist window managers using the left and right clicks on the open desktops though.
[06:19] <winbond> nickrud: i think you are right , i dont think its cloning it , it just makes me think it does the way the shortcuts work   in the system
[06:19] <Fujitsu> neoxan, it's not very good, no.
[06:19] <troy_s> RamiKassab: Just use the repos... xchat-gnome just helps the frontend look like GNOME and fit in with the desktop via the various GNOMEisms.
[06:20] <RamiKassab> Fujitsu: I tried searching for it and there is nothing for just 'xchat'
[06:20] <n30n> drumline_ whats this about being sore when i wake up?
[06:20] <Geoffrey2> the latest version of xchat for Ubuntu is 2.6.1
[06:20] <nickrud> winbond, quite possibly.
[06:20] <bigfoot1> how can i found out the command name if i only know the program name?
[06:20] <Fujitsu> RamiKassab, you need to enable the universe repository.
[06:20] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell RamiKassab about repos
[06:20] <n30n> drumline_ i feel like im about to enter a sleep number bed commercial o,o
[06:20] <RamiKassab> Fujitsu: ah, that's what I was trying to get to... thanks
[06:20] <JohnsonE> just as a refresher can someone tell me the path to the wine folder? :D
[06:20] <river> can anyone tell me the symlink to get java working in ububtu6 ... please ?!?
[06:20] <bobertdos> To anyone with any advice: is there a way to safely remove previous images of Ubuntu after and upgrade, or do they depend on one another?
[06:20] <RamiKassab> Fujitsu: I knew there was a repo I needed to enable for that
[06:20] <Fujitsu> Which reminds me... I need to update that page.
[06:20] <troy_s> JohnsonE: Eek.
[06:20] <Fujitsu> bobertdos, images?
[06:21] <Fujitsu> bobertdos, kernels?
[06:21] <bobertdos> Well, yes, kernels
[06:21] <JohnsonE> sorry, i'm still horrifyingly new to linux.
[06:21] <AdmiralCrunch> anyway to get simple effects such as drop shadows without compiz?
[06:21] <troy_s> JohnsonE: What functionality do you require?
[06:21] <Fujitsu> bobertdos, just remove the linux-image-2.6.15-whatever
[06:21] <winbond> nickrud: sorry for taking up ur time on this , and thank you
[06:21] <RamiKassab> what media player are you guys using that loads within firefox also?
[06:21] <Fujitsu> bobertdos, just don't remove linux-image.2.6.15-23 :)
[06:21] <Fujitsu> RamiKassab, try mplayer-plugin
[06:21] <JohnsonE> troy: i just need the path to my drive_c folder
[06:21] <chavo> AdmiralCrunch, yes
[06:21] <NoWhereToTurn> How many people here are using dapper with multiple distros on the same machine?
[06:21] <varsendaggr> mozplugger
[06:21] <yoshiznit123> johnsone: ~/.wine/drive_c
[06:21] <cesperanc> RamiKassab: vlc-plugin
[06:21] <RamiKassab> ok
[06:22] <Fujitsu> JohnsonE, ~/.wine/drive_c
[06:22] <crafteh> I have a Thinkpad T40. I had a USB keyboard for a while... and ever since using the USB keyboard on the laptop, the keys on my regular keyboard are not mapped correctly in X. How can I fix this? My xorg.conf doesn't look any different!
[06:22] <JohnsonE> thanks
[06:22] <AdmiralCrunch> chavo, could you tell me what must be done?
[06:22] <nickrud> winbond, np, I field that type of question here
[06:22] <troy_s> JohnsonE: But you might want to consider mounting it instead of utilizing Wine and such... what are you running under Wine?
[06:22] <river> can anyone tell me if I need a symlink to make Java run in ubuntu 6
[06:22] <RamiKassab> Fujitsu: thanks
[06:22] <Fujitsu> crafteh, have you configured the correct keyboard map in Sytstem->Preferences->Keyboard?
[06:22] <yoshiznit123> crafteh: you'll need xmodmap
[06:22] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell river about java.
[06:22] <nickrud> winbond, we do what we can do
[06:22] <yoshiznit123> or that :-)
[06:22] <Fujitsu> river, ubotu will have sent you instructions about Java in Ubuntu 6.06.
[06:22] <RamiKassab> cesperanc: is that better than mplayer? I have VLC for windows and I know it supports a wide array of formats
[06:22] <chavo> AdmiralCrunch, you have to enable the composite extension in xorg.conf and then run a compositing manager
[06:23] <troy_s> RamiKassab: VLC is very powerful.  mplayer is great too... different tools really.
[06:23] <mcpowley> hmm, what's the best firewall for linux?
[06:23] <thomasM> mplayer with good skins is nice.
[06:23] <crafteh> Fujitsu, yeah its the US one
[06:23] <winbond> nickrud: which bittorent client do u use?
[06:23] <thomasM> mcpowley linux is a firewall. default installations have no open ports.
[06:23] <troy_s> RamiKassab: If you need to set up a media jukebox, VLC is the way to go.  If you want a simple plays everything but menus thing -- mplayer is great.  mplayer is also useful for converting media.
[06:23] <cesperanc> Hi. I'm trying to build firefox 2 with ubuntu to test a localization, but I'm getting an error when compiling the file "libgfx_gtk.a". There are some undefined references to xft... Someone knows how can I solve this?
[06:23] <troy_s> mcpowley: It comes with iptables... the only firewall.
[06:24] <nickrud> winbond, I drag a torrent I want to the desktop, and double click it. I have no idea what apps does the download
[06:24] <crafteh> Fujitsu, is there anyway I can force it to reconfigure/detect the keyboard? It worked before I used the USB one and the xorg.conf looks exactly the same.
[06:24] <troy_s> thomasM: No open ports does not quite equate to a firewall.  You need a packetfilter, and that is what iptables handles.
[06:24] <RamiKassab> troy_s: if I install both will it cause conflict within firefox? of course, those are just the plugins so to get the standalones I need to download those separately
[06:24] <xice> mcpowley, also install firestarter for a gui for iptables
[06:24] <MystaMax> hey, if I just restarted my computer and haven't logged in, can i vnc to the machine and login???
[06:24] <Fujitsu> crafteh, try in System->Preferences->Keyboard. Check the layout.
[06:24] <mcpowley> oh, I see
[06:24] <troy_s> RamiKassab: No.  Mplayer has a moz plugin etc.
[06:24] <thomasM> mcpowley you can use nessus though to see if you have open ports you don't know about though.
[06:24] <xice> MystaMax, try it, probably
[06:24] <SAM_theman> how i move a folder from my home directory to apt ??
[06:24] <troy_s> mcpowley: If you want a gui to access iptables, try firestarter.
[06:24] <mcpowley> also, is there any need for antivirus on linux?
[06:24] <Fujitsu> thomasM, nmap is useful for such things./
[06:24] <mcpowley> ill check firestarter out then
[06:24] <Fujitsu> SAM_theman, what do you mean?
[06:24] <RamiKassab> troy_s: could I install both vlc-plugin and mplayer-plugin to see which I like?
[06:25] <nickrud> SAM_theman, that is a really wierd question.
[06:25] <RamiKassab> troy_s: or just try one at a time
[06:25] <crafteh> Fujitsu, the layout looks good to me ... "Generic 104-key PC" with "U.S. English" layout
[06:25] <SAM_theman> lol
[06:25] <thomasM> thomasM, but nessus has a sweet gui, dunno if you've heard of such things.
[06:25] <thomasM> and i just said my own name...
[06:25] <MystaMax> xice, thanks. anyone else have a more solid answer???
[06:25] <thomasM> :l
[06:25] <Fujitsu> crafteh, odd.
[06:25] <troy_s> mcpowley: All computers are subject to exploitations.  Whether or not you require a virus checker is up to you.  A virus checker is far down the food chain of computer security however.
[06:25] <winbond> nickrud: do u know how to install a app thats .rpm and its dependencies?
[06:25] <Fujitsu> crafteh, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in a terminal.
[06:25] <troy_s> winbond: alien the rpm
[06:25] <Fujitsu> winbond, use alien./
[06:25] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell winbond about alien
[06:25] <drumline_> troy_s: what's farther up the food chain?
[06:26] <crafteh> Fujitsu, ok
[06:26] <nickrud> winbond, no, I went to debian for dependency resolution. What app?
[06:26] <Fujitsu> Oh.
[06:26] <Fujitsu> Dependencies as well.
[06:26] <mcpowley> troy: I see, are there any recommendation you would have for a linux newbie to install for security essentials?
[06:26] <Fujitsu> Won't happen...
[06:26] <troy_s> drumline_: Education.  Knowledge.   Antivirus is right down the bottom of the list.
[06:26] <drumline_> troy_s: got it..  agreed.  :)
[06:27] <troy_s> mcpowley: Learn how the system works.  As a general rule of thumb:  Any running process is subject to exploitation.
[06:27] <drumline_> troy_s: by the time you got the virus, you've already failed some serious rudimentary tests...
[06:27] <roler> I got a new startup/shutdown screen from www.gnome-look.org and i'm not sure where to install it... I have a .cfg file and a grpahic
[06:27] <CaptainMorgan> in Kubuntu - what's the hotkeys for swtiching between terminals/shells in Konsole ?
[06:27] <nickrud> winbond, Fujitsu basically said it all about rpms & dependencies in ubuntu
[06:27] <RamiKassab> ok I'm gonna play around with some things, thanks for the help guys
[06:27] <troy_s> mcpowley:  If that process opens external ports, especially on a LAN or the net, then you have a theoretical hole to remote attack.
[06:27] <RamiKassab> I'll be back later, once I update xchat :)
[06:27] <drumline_> Hitachi makes a cheapy SATA II NCQ drive...   Yee Haw!
[06:27] <Fujitsu> RPM is a silly format, especially if you want to use it with a Debian-derivation.
[06:27] <Fujitsu> See you, RamiKassab.
[06:27] <winbond> nickrud: i wanted to install the original bittrrent from bittorrent.com
[06:27] <bootlick> What should I install on drapper to make my browsing experiance similar to windows, there is so much that does not work. Is there an install package that would bring things up to snuff?
[06:28] <troy_s> drumline_: Exactly.
[06:28] <thomasM> RPM is weak sauce.
[06:28] <RamiKassab> Fujitsu: later man, again, I appreciate it
[06:28] <Fujitsu> winbond, why?
[06:28] <Fujitsu> winbond, there is a package for it.
[06:28] <troy_s> bootlick: Learn what you need.  Add only what you need.
[06:28] <Fujitsu> RamiKassab, no problem.
[06:28] <gnat_x> i have an old laptop thats running xubuntu (its the bait machine to keep roommates from asking to use mine for email), and it only has a 1.5G hard drive which is full. /usr/share is taking about a third of the drive, and about another third is in /var/. anything i can safely rm for starters?
[06:28] <RamiKassab> troy_s: thanks!
[06:28] <thomasM> bootlick... similar to windows.. firefox runs on windows you know.
[06:28] <troy_s> bootlick:  Educate yourself in the process.
[06:28] <troy_s> RamiKassab: Glad I could help.
[06:28] <gnat_x> and what does ubuntu genereally put in usr/share?
[06:28] <drumline_> mcpowley: don't ever use a Peer to Peer network.  :)
[06:28] <nickrud> winbond, I have no real interest in figuring out how bittorent works in ubuntu, cus it just does
[06:28] <troy_s> gnat_x: It used to be a dir for files that one could share across platforms.
[06:28] <winbond> Fujitsu: yes , but its old version,  ...i want to install it because i dont really like ktorrent and want to try different apps
[06:29] <bootlick> thomasM yes, and in firefox for windows, i can watch a swf clip with sound, linux, no deal
[06:29] <Fujitsu> gnat_x, /var/cache/apt/archives is safe to delete.
[06:29] <bootlick> Does anyone have sound for this?
[06:29] <Fujitsu> winbond, what is the current official version?
[06:29] <troy_s> bootlick: Now you are into specifics.
[06:29] <Calcipher> Alrighty... I got a question (warning!! newbie alert).  I have been trying to install/boot dapper on my old presario 1200 laptop, it goes through the process normally untill it reaches "Configuring X..." when it will go to a black screen (with a blinking cursor) access the CD for a couple of minutes and then stop. (sorry for the lengthy discourse..)
[06:29] <JohnsonE> all that work and FL Studio won't even work with wine.
[06:29] <bootlick> http://dojo.fi/~rancid/loituma__.swf    - running linux
[06:29] <drumline_> bootlick: I have sound for SWF files...
[06:29] <mcpowley> troy_s: Are there any websites that have some explanation of the basics of linux...or a book I could purchase?
[06:29] <troy_s> bootlick:  SWF is Flash, so you will need to add flash from the repos if you are on 32 bit.
[06:29] <winbond> Fujitsu: 4.4.0
[06:29] <mcpowley> drumline_:That includes bittorent and frostwire?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> google has ooooodles of linux tutorial links.
[06:30] <bootlick> I have flash running, I can see the animation, but no sound
[06:30] <troy_s> mcpowley: I _strongly_ encourage you to purchase "How Linux Works" from no starch press.
[06:30] <kmyth> hello, i've 100gb hd but when it's mounted only 50gb is seen, anyone knows why? thanks
[06:30] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/703752
[06:30] <nickrud> tldp.org, again: tldp.org
[06:30] <SAM_theman> what the hell that means???
[06:30] <drumline_> mcpowley: any peer to peer...   that does include bittorent... I dunno what frostwire is...
[06:30] <troy_s> bootlick:  Ok, the sound is a specific to one of the flash installs.  Did you install "Flash nonfree from the repos?
[06:30] <bootlick> no, i dont belive so,
[06:30] <bootlick> i will do that
[06:30] <drumline_> mcpowley: the issue is that it's a means for unchecked communication to travel back to your box through your firewall...
[06:30] <Fujitsu> bootlick, a number of people are having this problem.
[06:30] <Fujitsu> JohnsonE, a lot of things don't.
[06:30] <bootlick> did you get sound from that track ?
[06:31] <Fujitsu> SAM_theman, are you in a terminal window in the GUI?
[06:31] <SAM_theman> terminal i n the gui
[06:31] <SAM_theman> terminal i n the gui
[06:31] <SAM_theman> clear
[06:31] <troy_s> mcpowley:  I restate:  Any process running on a computer is subject to exploitation of one sort or another.  That answer your question? ;)
[06:31] <Fujitsu> SAM_theman, can you please restart the terminal and try again?
[06:31] <drumline_> joe mama
[06:31] <SAM_theman> I did
[06:31] <river> Fujitsu: thanks for the link ... java is now working
[06:31] <SAM_theman> like 40 times
[06:31] <Fujitsu> No problem, river.
[06:31] <nickrud> SAM_theman, as the original installer (password entered during the install) : sudo gedit will work. If not, you have reall, serious issues
[06:31] <Fujitsu> SAM_theman, have you made any changes to your X configuration?
[06:31] <vineet> I just installed 6.06 and my MA111 is failing with "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[06:32] <SAM_theman> yup
[06:32] <Fujitsu> nickrud, not really...
[06:32] <drumline_> mcpowley: you can buy books on linux basics, yes.
[06:32] <SAM_theman> then i reconfigured it
[06:32] <kmyth> hello, i've 100gb hd but when it's mounted only 50gb is seen, anyone knows why? thanks
[06:32] <SAM_theman> with dkpgrec....
[06:32] <Induane_> Hey all I've a dapper system (many actually but only two I use for playing videos)   and playing videos on them both is off... audio and video don't sync regardless of the video or video player.
[06:32] <Fujitsu> SAM_theman, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:32] <Fujitsu> *?
[06:32] <SAM_theman> i did
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> kmyth,  use fdisk and look at how its partioned.
[06:32] <Fujitsu> Induane_, that's somewhat common.
[06:32] <drumline_> kmyth: you'll also want to check the forums and maybe post in the forums for this problem.
[06:32] <Induane_> One system is a laptop with an ati card the other is a desktop with an nvidia card.
[06:32] <Fujitsu> SAM_theman, hmm.
[06:32] <troy_s> mcpowley:  If you don't know exactly what is going on with a piece of software, keep hidden behind your firewall.  There are good *nix commands to see what a certain process is doing on your box.  netstat is one for example.  Once you know what a program is doing, then you are well equipped to use it.
[06:33] <SAM_theman> let me try again
[06:33] <Fujitsu> SAM_theman, can you please try to reconfigure again, and accept the defaults?
[06:33] <kmyth> fdisk/cfdisk shows one XFS partition with 100gb
[06:33] <Induane_> Fujitsu  are there fixes for it?
[06:33] <vineet> it worked fine on sarge with linux-wlan-ng
[06:33] <NoWhereToTurn> So daper alternate ISO is buggy as is the normal install
[06:33] <SAM_theman> yeah stop gdm to?
[06:33] <Induane_> the problem didn't exist in hoary.
[06:33] <gnat_x> the /var/cache/apt/archives dir is just the actual .deb files you pull during upgrade right? (like on debian)
[06:33] <kholerabbi> I have tried installing java through add/remove - the java web start package.. It didn't install in firefox -why??/
[06:33] <Fujitsu> Induane_, it depends, I'm not really sure.
[06:33] <troy_s> NoWhereToTurn: In what respect for you?
[06:33] <SAM_theman> brb then
[06:33] <Fujitsu> SAM_theman, yeah.
[06:33] <SAM_theman> ok
[06:33] <drumline_> anyone know of a keyboard that requires VERY LITTLE force to trigger a key press?
[06:33] <polpak> NoWhereToTurn: I had problems with the normal install ISO, but the alternate worked fine
[06:33] <Fujitsu> kholerabbi, that's the wrong package.
[06:33] <Fujitsu> kholerabbi, please install flashplugin-nonfree.
[06:33] <Induane_> Fujitsu is it an xv problem or some sort of overlay issue?"  I've tried forcing xv but no effect.
[06:33] <Fujitsu> drumline_, that's not really on topic.
[06:34] <troy_s> drumline_: I have heard those cloth styles have some light press alternatives.
[06:34] <vineet> drumline_: the kinesis ergonomic keyboards are good
[06:34] <nickrud> Fujitsu, so this is not just a sudo issue then
[06:34] <roostishaw> anyone, two quick questions: how do i run a script at shutdown, and what command can be used in a bash script to copy a file to a givin location whenever its modified?
[06:34] <Fujitsu> nickrud, no.
[06:34] <Geoffrey2> mcpowley, I would, however, install anti-virus anyway....while I can understand what the others are saying on here, simply assuming one can get smart enough not to need it is like saying I don't need a seat belt because I drive smart and don't get in accidents...sooner or later, things happen
[06:34] <cesperanc> Has anyone compiled firefox 2 from cvs sources with ubuntu?
[06:34] <Fujitsu> nickrud, looks like X is just being stupid.
 NoWhereToTurn: In what respect for you? <-- in that I can not get past the friggin partitioner
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> drumline_,  theres some very high quality keyboards out. (like that 'daskeyboard' or its original form with letters on the keys) that may be what you want
[06:34] <Fujitsu> cesperanc, I'm sure somebody has.
[06:34] <NoWhereToTurn> Why am I am getting "Not yet implemented" This ext2 file system has a rather strange layout! Parted can't resize this (yet).???
[06:34] <nickrud> Fujitsu, glad you were here :)
[06:34] <bootlick> linux is fine, and will be much better as time goes on
[06:34] <polpak> NoWhereToTurn: I have the same issue with the standard installer
[06:34] <NoWhereToTurn> thats the lastest problem
[06:34] <troy_s> Geoffrey2:  Ultimately, the nature of a virus and the stopping power of a checker though means you are practicing far worse security related issues on your machine.
[06:34] <Fujitsu> NoWhereToTurn, it's because it's an unclean ext3 volume.
[06:34] <polpak> NoWhereToTurn: the partitioner on the alternate CD worked fine though
[06:35] <troy_s> NoWhereToTurn: What exactly happens if you can recall?
[06:35] <Fujitsu> NoWhereToTurn, you probably need to run fsck on it.
[06:35] <thomasM> nowheretoturn, gparted can not resize any partition that is currently mounted.
[06:35] <cesperanc> Fujitsu: Well I'm getting some errors with xft, that I can't resolve
[06:35] <Induane_> NoWhereToTurn I think that means your partitions aren't in chronological order - I.E. hda 1 2 and 3 aren't ordered 1 2  and 3 on the disk
[06:35] <Fujitsu> nickrud, hehe. Thanks :)
[06:35] <Fujitsu> Induane_, not at all.
[06:35] <troy_s> NoWhereToTurn: Ignore me... you have tons of helpers already :)
[06:35] <roostishaw> how do i run a script at shutdown?
[06:35] <Fujitsu> Induane_, that's irrelevant.
[06:35] <kholerabbi> Fujitsu - flash? It intalls java too
[06:35] <NoWhereToTurn> Induane_ ok that may be
[06:35] <kholerabbi> ??
[06:35] <Fujitsu> kholerabbi, Oops.
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> roostishaw,  you mean log out..or when the system shuts down?
[06:35] <Induane_> Pretty sure its an issue
[06:35] <gnat_x> is it bad practice to just ln the apt archives to /dev/null, to keep the space free? (note this computer is used almost solely for web browsing)
[06:35] <Fujitsu> kholerabbi, my mistake >_<
[06:35] <Induane_> I had a bug report about it.  and I know cfdisk can't handle that at all
[06:35] <drumline_> Fujitsu: oh I'm sorry... I thought my dark lord of the sith could protect a thermal exhaust port that's only 2 meters wide!!
[06:35] <gnat_x> or is that too bad practicie.
[06:36] <varg> I just upgraded from Breezy to Dapper, and now my existing user is logged out automatically as soon as the desktop loads. Users created after the upgrade can log in fine. No luck on the forums; any ideas?
[06:36] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell kholerabbi about java.
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> gnat_x,  you mean the .debs that apt-get caches?
[06:36] <roostishaw> Dr_Willis, when it shuts down...
[06:36] <Fujitsu> Parden, drumline_?
[06:36] <Snoops> I've been reading that using alien to make debs from rpms could be damagerous as it could create problems.. what sort of problems?
[06:36] <troy_s> varg:  Have you checked malone?
[06:36] <drumline_> Fujitsu: are the topics really run strict here?
[06:36] <gnat_x> Dr_Willis: yea /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:36] <Fujitsu> varg, logged out? Does X die, or what?
[06:36] <Fujitsu> drumline_, yes.
[06:36] <thomasM> snoops, installs things in the wrong places.
[06:36] <Geoffrey2> troy_s, um, not sure I understand you...
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> Snoops,  oddities when updating packages. and  dependencie issues.
[06:36] <Fujitsu> drumline_, this gets excruciatingly busy at times.
[06:37] <drumline_> Fujitsu: gotcha...  wilco
[06:37] <Snoops> hmm fingers crossed this doesn't do anything dodgy then
[06:37] <varg> troy_s: not yet, hadn't heard of it.
[06:37] <Fujitsu> Hi again, JohnsonE.
[06:37] <thomasM> snoops, things that install in redhat do not neccessarily install in the same place in ubuntu
[06:37] <varg> Fujitsu: it returns to the log-in screen
[06:37] <Fujitsu> varg, odd.
[06:37] <troy_s> Geoffrey2: I mean that by using a virus checker as a net, you have probably already violated many security principles to let it get to the point of being caught.
[06:37] <JohnsonE> any word of drivers for logtiech keyboards/mice? i want to use the extra features on them in linux =\
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> varg,  create a new clean user - and see if it works for them. If so. your existing gnome configs for the older user  may be the problem
[06:37] <kholerabbi> Fujistu: thanks
[06:37] <KanRiNiN> I'm having trouble finding out how to have ubuntu turn my monitor off after a certain period of idleness
[06:37] <troy_s> ubotu, tell varg about bug
[06:37] <Fujitsu> JohnsonE, features like what?
[06:37] <varg> Dr_Willis: Done, and yes. But what?
[06:37] <Snoops> it sucks not being able to find a deb amd 64 version of xvidcap then :(
[06:37] <thomasM> snoops for some things its okay to do, but nothing that gets upgraded.
[06:37] <NoWhereToTurn> Now it is complaining about yet another ext2 partition which it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[06:37] <bootlick> windows vista beta, gives me the same amount of trouble as linux, things not working, searching for drivers,
[06:37] <varg> troy_s: thanks. :)
[06:37] <JohnsonE> fujitsu: media buttons, double click button, etc.
[06:37] <troy_s> JohnsonE: What extra features?
[06:38] <bootlick> why cant we just stick to one os
[06:38] <Fujitsu> bootlick, nice.
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> varg,  so it works for the new user but not the old? if so.. move/delete/rename the .gnome* config dirs. so they get remade fresh and from the defaults.
[06:38] <troy_s> bootlick:  Well spoken
[06:38] <thomasM> bootlick, why not just give all of your money to one company??
[06:38] <thomasM> bootlock, because they get lazy.
[06:38] <Fujitsu> varg, try what Dr_Willis said.
[06:38] <troy_s> bootlick:  The difference in this community is that everyone encourages people to learn and educate, not point and click to further stupidity.
[06:38] <thomasM> bootlock, competition is an advantage.
[06:38] <varg> Dr_Willis, Fujitsu: in progress. :)
[06:38] <xice> bootlick, sounding like a prime apple candidate
[06:39] <xice> here have $5000
[06:39] <Fujitsu> Yep, troy_s.
[06:39] <bootlick> how about giving my money to a linux help forum
[06:39] <troy_s> Fujitsu: amen.
[06:39] <thomasM> bootlick, if only one company produced cars, would there be any inovation, or any real quality control?
[06:39] <bootlick> techs solving problems
[06:39] <troy_s> thomasM:  A computer is NOT a car, nor even close.
 windows vista beta, gives me the same amount of trouble as linux, things not working, searching for drivers, - but on vista you have the problem that you cannot access the system in such a deep level as under linux
[06:39] <SAM_theman> same sh**
[06:39] <NoWhereToTurn> I have installed slackware,mandriva,suse,Fedora on this box and have never had as much problme as I have had with ubuntu
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> thomasM,  theres not a lot of inovation in cars :P lol.
[06:39] <thomasM> troy_s the concept is universal.
[06:39] <bootlick> if one company produced cars with no problems and warrenty work for free, sure
[06:39] <elephanthunter> So... does anybody know a command to reconfigure the sound on the computer?
[06:39] <SAM_theman> I think i know what to do
[06:39] <troy_s> thomasM: Many fundamental freedoms are now dictated by computer use.  Companies should not control this.  It crept in while we were sleeping.
[06:39] <Fujitsu> NoWhereToTurn, problems like what?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> I have MUCH more problems in windows then i do in linux.
[06:39] <crimsun_> elephanthunter: there isn't one. What's the issue?
[06:39] <Blattlaus> which means yome problems cant be solved by you
[06:40] <Fujitsu> SAM_theman, please watch the language.
[06:40] <Sephiroth> Windows is full of problems.
[06:40] <SAM_theman> srry
[06:40] <troy_s> thomasM: If you consider literature, art, science, learning, education, etc universal... sure.
[06:40] <elblanco> unh!
[06:40] <Induane_> If I could get my video and audio to sync up I'd be gloriously happy with ubuntu
[06:40] <chavo> vista beta 2 recognized all of my hardware
[06:40] <thomasM> troy_s, if there were only one flavour of unix, we would have all of the same problems, free software or not.
[06:40] <troy_s> thomasM: A car does that for you?
[06:40] <Pelo> I have a small question, I just installed /ran automatix for the first time, and it is now asking me if I want to replace  sources.list ?  do i or not ?
[06:40] <bootlick> Blattlaus, i dont want to solve problems, or go deep into linux
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> with linux - the problems are at least  somthing you can research/check the logs/ and in theory fix.. in windows. you just try  'things' and hopes it fixes the problem
[06:40] <Sephiroth> ^
[06:40] <troy_s> thomasM: We evolve though.  Open source evolves.  Closed source does not.
[06:40] <Sephiroth> exactly
[06:40] <Fujitsu> Pelo, you want to click OK to that button.
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> Pelo,  dont use automatix at all. is  the best advice
[06:40] <bootlick> i want a computer that works, and with the money windows has, they can keep it working
[06:40] <troy_s> Pelo:  automatix can bunk you.
[06:40] <Induane_> vista beta2 didn't even recogonize my videocard - which is older.  Or sound... or usb device... so I couldn't use my keyboard or mouse... the whole thing was a mess
[06:40] <thomasM> troy_s, inovation only evolves with competition.
[06:40] <Flashq009> I just finished downloading the iso image of ubuntu.  I burned it to cd. But it does not run.  What do I need to do?
[06:40] <Fujitsu> Dr_Willis, that advice has now been revoked, although I don't agree with the revokement.
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> Ms dosent care to keep things working.
[06:41] <Fujitsu> troy_s, what I said to Dr_Willis.
[06:41] <Snoops> bootlick so what's the problem? :)
[06:41] <troy_s> thomasM:  Research history.
[06:41] <Sephiroth> Linux is a lot better than windows if you ask me.
[06:41] <Induane_> ditto
[06:41] <Fujitsu> Sephiroth, you don't say...
[06:41] <troy_s> thomasM:  You bought the entire american myth.  Try Greek history.
[06:41] <vineet> Flashq009: make sure you burned the image rather than putting the image as a file on the disc
[06:41] <crimsun_> guys, open- vs. closed-source belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[06:41] <bootlick> Linux is a lot better than windows
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> Fujitsu,  now you got him totally confused! :P
[06:41] <thomasM> troy_s, believe what you want, competition is healthy in every way for consumers.
[06:41] <bootlick> Imagine the world without windows
[06:41] <bootlick> I was much happier with dos
[06:41] <Fujitsu> bootlick, no, that's too good.
[06:41] <troy_s> Fujitsu: Laf.  Don't say...
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> bootlick,  go back to dos then.
[06:41] <Sephiroth> what a good world that would be
[06:41] <Sephiroth> no windows
[06:41] <NoWhereToTurn> Fujitsu like the partitioner complaining about other partitions from the other distros which has nothing to do with installing the os
[06:41] <Induane_> many people were happier with dos...
[06:41] <varg> Dr_Willis, Fujitsu: I moved all .gnome-looking folders; of those, .gnome2 and .gnome2_private were recreated upon login. The problem persisted, however.
[06:42] <troy_s> Sephiroth: Don't stop there... Apple is the other color of bad.
[06:42] <Fujitsu> Is it just me, or is ubotu being /really/ laggy.
[06:42] <Pelo> ok thanks for the info
[06:42] <Sephiroth> i hate apple
[06:42] <troy_s> Fujitsu: Laggy.
[06:42] <Fujitsu> varg, best to create an entirely new account, then
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> varg,  theres also the .gconf* directories
[06:42] <crimsun_> offtopic discussion needs to migrate to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[06:42] <Fujitsu> NoWhereToTurn, you probably told it to resize, or something.
[06:42] <Fujitsu> crimsun_, why did you set that flag!?
[06:42] <drumline_> Bill Gates created the microcomputer market...   He just did it via selling his soul...
[06:43] <bootlick> ?
[06:43] <Flashq009> vineet: how do I do what you suggested?
[06:43] <bootlick> okay , no more
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> varg,  i see about 5 .gnome* dirs and about 3 .gconf* dirs
[06:43] <Fujitsu> Thankyou, bootlick.
[06:43] <NoWhereToTurn> nope told it to create one partition at the end of the drive and to use that for everything ie /
[06:43] <bootlick> i need help with ubuntu just liek everyone lese
[06:43] <vineet> Flashq009: it depends on the program you used to burn the disc
[06:43] <thomasM> drumline_ bill gates purchased dos from some poor fool who didn't know what it was worth.
[06:43] <troy_s> Fujitsu: It was off topic.  He was correct.
[06:43] <vineet> Flashq009: can you read the disc at all? can you see what files it has on it?
[06:43] <Flashq009> yes
[06:43] <steveO_> Is it easy to go from Ubuntu to KUbuntu.. can I upgrade from the command line?
[06:43] <steev-dell> http://pastebin.ca/64703 can someone assist with this? perl keeps complaining that the default locale isn't being set, and i've run dpkg-reconfigure locales a few times - always the same output - as seen in the url at the beginning of this
[06:43] <steveO_> or is that a big fat hassle?
[06:43] <Fujitsu> troy_s, yes, but the setting of the channel to moderated was unnecessary.
[06:43] <steveO_> or easy to install kde packages?
[06:43] <Sephiroth> Yeah, just install KDE.
[06:43] <Snoops> so what do you need help with bootlick?
[06:43] <crimsun_> elephanthunter: would you describe your sound issues?
[06:44] <Fujitsu> steve0_, just install kubuntu-desktop.
[06:44] <troy_s> steveO_: you can run them both simul.
[06:44] <vineet> Flashq009: does it have just one .iso file, or lots of files on it?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> steveO_,  trivially easy..
[06:44] <bootlick> many things
[06:44] <steveO_> ok, cool.
[06:44] <Fujitsu> steve0_, that'll give you both Ubuntu and Kubuntu on the one system.
[06:44] <Flashq009> one iso file
[06:44] <steveO_> awesome, i thought so. :)
[06:44] <bootlick> first off, no sound with swf files
[06:44] <NoWhereToTurn> Now it is complaining "file system has incompatible feture enabled"
[06:44] <steveO_> thank you :>
[06:44] <bootlick> well one in particual
[06:44] <Fujitsu> NoWhereToTurn, strange.
[06:44] <SAM_theman> brb
[06:44] <bootlick> that gives sound find in windows
[06:44] <JohnsonE> ok an azureus error popped up and it won't go away
[06:44] <Fujitsu> NoWhereToTurn, what is installed on the partition it's complaining about?
[06:44] <bootlick> i will figure it out eventually
[06:44] <troy_s> bootlick: I have also heard that sometimes the flash player in linux has some permissions on the sound output that need adjusting.
[06:44] <crimsun_> bootlick: are you wrapper $browser with aoss?
[06:44] <Fujitsu> JohnsonE, I've heard people complaining about that...
[06:44] <crimsun_> bootlick: sorry, s/wrapper/wrapping/
[06:44] <Flashq009> do I get it to extract the iso onto cd?
[06:44] <vineet> Flashq009: so that's the problem; that .iso file is actually an entire disc image.  You need to use your burning program's "burn disc image" feature
[06:44] <bootlick> firefox
[06:45] <Fujitsu> Flashq009, no.
[06:45] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell Flashq009 about iso
[06:45] <crimsun_> bootlick: ok, do you have 'alsa-oss' from universe installed?
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> JohnsonE,  ive seen that when not using the actual 'sun' java.. but i think it may of hung around even after i used the suns java. :(
[06:45] <Fujitsu> Flashq009, see the message from Ubotu.
[06:45] <JohnsonE> and i tried to open a torrent with normal bittorrent and that didn't work either :|
[06:45] <JohnsonE> how can i install sun's java?
[06:45] <nomin> can I just upgrade ubuntu with the cd from within an ubuntu session?  I think I'm starting to do that right now.
[06:45] <crimsun_> JohnsonE: use synaptic to install sun-java5-jre
[06:45] <bootlick> Crimsum going to try that right now
[06:45] <troy_s> JohnsonE: Some torrents use UDP ports...
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> JohnsonE,  theres other torrent clients out.. ive actually gotten used to ktorrent lately
[06:45] <Fujitsu> nomin, you need the alternate CD.
[06:45] <crimsun_> bootlick: after you install it, use ``aoss firefox'' from a Terminal
[06:46] <troy_s> JohnsonE: If you want, try Bittornado for UDP etc.
[06:46] <NoWhereToTurn> ]  <Fujitsu> NoWhereToTurn, what is installed on the partition it's complaining about? <every partiton it has complained about belonged to another distro installed on this computer
[06:46] <varg> Dr_Willis: Worked. Thanks a bunch! :)
[06:46] <troy_s> JohnsonE: It is dead easy and not much to it...
[06:46] <NoWhereToTurn> I have no idea what the heck this incompatible feature error is
[06:46] <xonic> does anyone know how to install xine?
[06:46] <Snoops> bootlick https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b
[06:46] <Fujitsu> NoWhereToTurn, neither do I. What other distros are there?
[06:46] <thomasM> crimsun_ there is a problem with the compiz package, it is not installing the gconf keys man. if you know the proper people to inform about this, please let them know.
[06:46] <Snoops> that goes into detail on it
[06:46] <Fujitsu> xonic, install the xine package.
[06:46] <varg> exit
[06:46] <Kachingo> I'm having trouble getting gtk-gnutella to work. It looks ok, but when I search, nothing comes up. It says that it's firewalled, but it isn't to my knowlege. I set up port forwarding on my router also, and it still doesn't work. Any ideas?
[06:46] <xonic> how and where
[06:46] <troy_s> JohnsonE: Also note that for some torrents to get to you, if they are behind a firewall, you will need to permit them to attach to you via yours.  Security risk, but some will not work without.
[06:46] <xonic> can't find it
[06:47] <thomasM> crimsun_ me and 3 other people have had problems tonight with compiz, always the same error: no gconf keys.
[06:47] <crimsun_> xonic: libxine1-main should already be installed. Do you need mp3 and additional support?
[06:47] <nomin> Fujitsu: when I put the dapper cd in, it opened up synaptic automatically and added the cd to the repository.  Now I've selected 'upgrade' and I'm hoping that it's only downloading files that are not on the cd.
[06:47] <vineet> any recommendations on where else to ask for my ma111/linux-wlan-ng problem?
[06:47] <NoWhereToTurn> slackware,madriva (which I installed this weekend with no proble) Fedorea, slackeware,suse
[06:47] <Fujitsu> nomin, that's right.
[06:47] <crimsun_> xonic: if so, enable universe and multiverse, and install libxine-extracodecs.
[06:47] <Induane_> Kachingo are you sure your ports are forwarded to the right ports?  also if you use dhcp you ip address may change from time to time thus nulifying your port forewarding
[06:47] <xonic> crimsun_: those are installed
[06:48] <vineet> it worked out-of-the-box on sarge, so I'm surprised it didn't in ubuntu
[06:48] <Sephiroth> Interesting how some programs advertise themselves when they leave.
[06:48] <NoWhereToTurn> I am burning the ISO for 5.10 and see if that complains as much as daper
[06:48] <bootlick> crimsun_ Thanks, but still no sound
[06:48] <xonic> but before my last reinstall i ahd the w32codecs and xine installed i forgot where i got em
[06:48] <crimsun_> xonic: then you have xine-lib installed.
[06:48] <bootlick> no problem, bed time for me
[06:48] <crimsun_> xonic: are you looking for a player?
[06:48] <vineet> too bad I already clobbered my sarge install =(
[06:48] <crimsun_> bootlick: are all other sound apps closed?
[06:48] <xonic> i love xine tho it did the job
[06:48] <bootlick> hmm
[06:48] <nomin> Fujitsu: actually, now it looks like it's downloading more than I might need.  It says I've got about 5 hours and 40 minutes of download time remaining.  Thats about 700 MB with my internet speed.
[06:48] <NoWhereToTurn> I wished the heck I left hoary on this box
[06:48] <bootlick> yes yes
[06:48] <crimsun_> bootlick: in particular any firefox windows
[06:48] <bootlick> all other sound apps are closed
[06:48] <xonic> i want xine, lol
[06:48] <Kachingo> Induane_: I set a static IP address, and I'm fairly sure the port forwarding is correct.
[06:48] <bootlick> all firefox windows are closed
[06:48] <crimsun_> xonic: the library or the player?
[06:49] <xonic> player
[06:49] <crimsun_> xonic: do you want xine-ui, gxine, ...?
[06:49] <thomasM> install xine-ui
[06:49] <xonic> i have the w32 codes sitting in my desktop how i install them they are in a .bz2 files
[06:49] <mcpowley> Troy_s: I just ordered the book on Amazon.
[06:49] <crimsun_> thomasM: in gnome?
[06:49] <xonic> none of those, i had xine hte player...=\
[06:49] <crimsun_> thomasM: (RE: compiz)
[06:49] <Induane_> Kachingo try double-checking in gtk-gnutella to make sure that you forwarded the correct ports... I don't know what else to say..works here
[06:49] <thomasM> crimsun_  yes.
[06:49] <xonic> xine-i sucks
[06:49] <CurtisB> I've got what I hope is a minor problem (on Badger, btw) I burned a data disk with GnomeBaker, but it's not mounting...  Do I need something specific in my fstab?
[06:50] <thomasM> xonic get skins for it.
[06:50] <xonic> eww
[06:50] <Sephiroth> is everyone leaving now?
[06:50] <crimsun_> thomasM: following the instructions here? [] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-February/000079.html]
[06:50] <NoWhereToTurn> Are any other people using daper with other Linux distros on the same machine?
[06:50] <xonic> i just uninstalled it becasue it was showing some screwed up gui
[06:50] <Induane_> NoWhereToTurn I am
[06:50] <xonic> thats why i want xine
[06:50] <mjbjr> I need to _buy_ a new box (for a friend) to run ubuntu, and I want it to just plain work...  does anyone have any system _recommendation_?
[06:50] <Induane_> NoWhereToTurn I use Arch linux OpenSuSE 10 and Ubuntu Dapper
[06:51] <crimsun_> mjbjr: desktop or laptop?
[06:51] <mjbjr> desktop
[06:51] <spikeb> i recommend the system76 systems :)
[06:51] <Snoops> all depends on price and such mjbjr
[06:51] <crimsun_> mjbjr: sorry, pretty useless I am then.
[06:51] <NoWhereToTurn> I guess I must be special then :(
[06:51] <Induane_> mjbjr simply buy a decent mobo and processor - grab a sblive soundcard (EMU10K) and an nvidia videocard
[06:51] <thomasM> crimsun_ you don't need gconf keys for that?
[06:51] <crimsun_> thomasM: it works with those instructions.
[06:51] <Kachingo> Induane_: In your gtk-gnutella, what is your ip address? Mine says <IP_ADDRESS>, which I thought means any, but I don't know
[06:51] <mjbjr> spikeb: I looked at them... do you recommend them from personal experience?
[06:51] <Induane_> Kachingo let me go check
[06:52] <crimsun_> thomasM: have you done anything funky like forcibly remove gconf?
[06:52] <Freq> When someone has a minute, could they help me with a display issue?
[06:52] <thomasM> crimsun_ thankyou. the problem is that these guides on the ubuntu forums are for dapper, but are outdated.
[06:52] <spikeb> mjbjr: yes - not from buying directly from them, but i can personally testify to the excellence of the staff in answering questions
[06:52] <thomasM> crimsun_ no, gconf is installed perfectly fine.
[06:52] <crimsun_> thomasM: or use compiz compiled from non-Ubuntu repos?
[06:52] <thomasM> crimsun_ nope.
[06:52] <spikeb> mjbjr: i have quizzed them a number of times, am HIGHLY likely to buy from them as soon as i can afford to
[06:52] <mjbjr> ahh
[06:52] <thomasM> crimsun_ which is what lead me to believe that it was a problem with the ubuntu package of compiz.
[06:52] <spikeb> mjbjr: the staff is polite and very responsive, hence my recommendations despite not buying yet.
[06:52] <Induane_> Kachingo where does it list your IP?
[06:53] <crimsun_> thomasM: these instructions worked in February through last week
[06:53] <mjbjr> spikeb: how's their warranty?
[06:53] <spikeb> mjbjr: i'm not sure, but you can ask them directly for details and they will give you the straight answer
[06:53] <mjbjr> cool
[06:53] <thomasM> crimsun_ I will follow these directions, but there should be a place on the forums for all of the latest information, as many of the guides are outdated.
[06:53] <Kachingo> Induane_: I think it says in network settings in the program
[06:54] <thomasM> crimsun_ or its just a problem with the package.
[06:54] <spikeb> mjbjr: they have forums, and the staff answer quite promptly there.
[06:54] <mcpowley> Does anyone know how I can start firestarter on every boot by default? I added the line sudo firestarter to my session start up, but it never starts...
[06:54] <RamiKassab_> hey guys, can any of you recommend a good application for docking software to the system tray?
[06:54] <RamiKassab_> I heard of kdocker, is that good?
[06:54] <Induane_> Kachingo ahh yea it was right in front of my face lol  - mine says Current IP Settings (Address:Port):24:124:47:61:25118
[06:54] <thomasM> mcpowley, it needs to be run as a service on bootup.
[06:54] <crimsun_> thomasM: I used that last week, so it shouldn't be a problem with the package.
[06:54] <RamiKassab_> does ubuntu support that natively or do I need a 3rd part yapp
[06:55] <mjbjr> spikeb: thanks, I'll look into them further.
[06:55] <spikeb> mjbjr: you're welcome.
[06:55] <thomasM> crimsun i followed this guide, which asks for changes in gconf settings. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=739758
[06:55] <Freq> Rami: I have a link to a site that will show you how to convert the Dapper UI to be more like OS X if you want that
[06:55] <SAM_theman> yo  i know the problem the nvidia driver is the problem
[06:55] <Induane_> engage is a great dock
[06:55] <Freq> I think it has stuff about the dock, too
[06:55] <Flashq009> thank you for the info.  I am burning the cd disk to iso
[06:55] <thomasM> freq www.gnomelook.org
[06:55] <SAM_theman> cause i restarted evering in the /etc/Xll and used the defualt drivers
[06:56] <Kachingo> Induane_: Dammit, I guess it means it can't see my global IP address. I'll try typing it in, cheers
[06:56] <RamiKassab_> Freq: I'm not really looking to conver to OS X UI look and feel
[06:56] <SAM_theman> and sudo gedit worked then i install nvidia and i gives me thte error
[06:56] <Flashq009> I mean writing disk to ISO file
[06:56] <RamiKassab_> just looking to dock applications to the system tray, apps like Thunderbird and XMMS
[06:56] <Induane_> Kachingo google says it means your ports aren't forewarded lol
[06:56] <pundai> someon gimme a bug to fix, im bored
[06:57] <StarScream_> hey guys, i have just installed breezy ppc and i was looking for that new network-manager tool that mark shuttleworth was saying about in his tllts interview
[06:57] <marcio> I'm problem to install plugins to wav, help-me?
[06:57] <CurtisB> I've got what I hope is a minor problem (on Badger, btw) I burned a data disk with GnomeBaker, but it's not mounting...  Do I need something specific in my fstab?
[06:57] <StarScream_> anyone know where it is?
[06:57] <Kachingo> Induane_: Dammit, maybe I didn't forward them right.
[06:57] <crimsun_> thomasM: that howto on the forum does the same thing in two separate commands
[06:57] <StarScream_> or how i get it
[06:57] <RamiKassab_> Freq: although, I would like to check it out, can ya send the link over?
[06:57] <spikeb> StarScream_: check in add/remove...
[06:57] <RamiKassab_> so, any recommendations on docker apps?
[06:57] <Freq> yeah, I just have to startup Dapper to get the link :P
[06:57] <Freq> hand on
[06:57] <StarScream_> spikeb: i've installed it apparently
[06:57] <Freq> hang on*
[06:57] <farous> have a problem after installing kubuntu (i purged it later). everytime i restart mypc the default dns is erased (blank) and i have to put my router address in it. this is just irrtating any one know how can i get rid of that
[06:57] <Induane_> Kachingo hehe - try making sure you are using udp ports
[06:57] <StarScream_> just don't know whereto find it /run it
[06:57] <RamiKassab_> Freq: thanks man
[06:57] <xonic> how do oyu run a .run file?
[06:58] <Induane_> Kachingo or disable UDP
[06:58] <farous> xonic: ./foo
[06:58] <spikeb> StarScream_: hmm
[06:58] <spikeb> StarScream_: me either
[06:58] <thomasM> crimsun_ well i have compiz installed off of ubuntu repositories, yet with no gconf keys installed. i have no explaination for this so far.
[06:58] <xonic> farous: huh
[06:58] <mcpowley> thomasM: How would I do that exactly?
[06:58] <StarScream_> xonic: ./file.run
[06:58] <spikeb> StarScream_: but it's nice to see another ppc linux user
[06:58] <Induane_> Kachingo also I think that it needs to be set to ipv4 only
[06:58] <xonic> sudo?
[06:58] <farous> xonic if you are in the file dir type ./foo if your file name is foo
[06:58] <thomasM> mcpowley, i don't know i don't personally use firestarted. check out their website.
[06:58] <Kachingo> Induane_: where do you set it to ipv4?
[06:58] <SAM_theman> bbl
[06:59] <StarScream_> spikeb: what you running on ibook / powerbook ?
[06:59] <RamiKassab_> guys, does anyone have a recommendation on a docker app?
[06:59] <asdx> will 6.10 include AIGLX?
[06:59] <troy_s> ubotu, tell mcpowley about firestarter
[06:59] <Induane_> Kaching Network settings
[06:59] <spikeb> StarScream_: no, on a mac mini :)
[06:59] <Kachingo> Induane_: Also, I did put a port forwarding for both udp and tcp
[06:59] <StarScream_> spikeb: nice
[06:59] <troy_s> mcpowley: hrm... No link there.  Try the wiki and forums.
[06:59] <Induane_> Kachingo ahh ok.  try disabling UDP if it doesn't work... I dunno ;)
[06:59] <Snoops> doubt it asdx glx and compiz are alpha :)
[06:59] <farous> which file i edit for my dns server and how i can make whatever i put there permenant
[06:59] <xonic> easier way for a noob like me?
[06:59] <spikeb> StarScream_: yeah, it is! :)
[06:59] <bobstro> mcpowley:  what are you trying to do?
[06:59] <asdx> yeah but aiglx is in xorg already
[07:00] <troy_s> farous: /etc/network/interfaces
[07:00] <asdx> so it should include
[07:00] <farous> troy_s: it is set properly there
[07:00] <Freq> When I boot Dapper on my system natively (I normally run it in VMware), I get graphical errors not unlike when an NES game goes haywire
[07:00] <thomasM> mcpowley i'm fairly confident there is a small section on firestarter on ubuntuguide.
[07:00] <xonic> how do oyu run a .run file?
[07:00] <troy_s> farous: What is your issue then???
[07:00] <elephanthunter> crimsun_: Sorry about that, had to go to another room. My sound issue is that I installed skype, tried running Ubuntu's sound recorder to make sure my mic worked, and changed the settings in the sound control. Now I have no sound at all.
[07:00] <Freq> I know Dapper can run, because I got the live CD to run
[07:00] <Kachingo> Induane_: What version are you using?
[07:00] <farous> troy_s: everytime i reboot it is erased and i do not know why
[07:00] <Snoops> xonic like ten people just told you before..
[07:00] <crimsun_> elephanthunter: what did you change?
[07:01] <Freq> But I have to change the video from VGA to 1024x768
[07:01] <xonic> lol i have no clue wtf he said
[07:01] <Induane_> Kachingo latest from dapper repository
[07:01] <RamiKassab_> guys, I'm sure no one really sees my messages because there's so many in here. I'm looking for a docker application that allows me to dock running software to the system tray and remove it from the task bar (applications like thunderbird and xmms that are usually always running). Any recommendations would be GREATLY appreciate, thanks guys!
[07:01] <bobstro> mcpowley:  hmmm... once i enabled it, it ran for me automatically every time.
[07:01] <RamiKassab_> sorry for it being so long, I had asked like 4 times but I don't think anyone say the messages
[07:01] <Freq> Rami: I said I might have one, just hang on a sec
[07:01] <troy_s> RamiKassab_: There are a few...
[07:01] <troy_s> RamiKassab_: Try something like alltotray IIRC?
[07:02] <StarScream_> spikeb: do you have network manager installed on your system ?
[07:02] <elephanthunter> I went from the ALSA mixer to the OSS mixer and back. Then I unmuted some of my sound inputs. Nothing is muted right now, but it's still not working.
[07:02] <RamiKassab_> Freq: thought you said the doc was on coverting to OS X UI, that's not quite what I'm looking for
[07:02] <CurtisB> FSTAB: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0  ---OUTPUT: mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only, mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc, missing codepage or other errormissing codepage or other error
[07:02] <spikeb> StarScream_: no - i only have a wired connection, so i dont need it
[07:02] <RamiKassab_> troy_s: have you heard of kdocker?
[07:02] <troy_s> farous: Your interface file is erased????
[07:02] <Freq> http://users.utu.fi/ljtaim/ubuntuosx.php
[07:02] <troy_s> RamiKassab_: Not a k guy here... any2tray or all2tray or something akin to that... can't remember it exactly.
[07:02] <farous> troy_s: my reslov.conf file is
[07:02] <mcpowley> bobstro: Im trying to get it to run at startup
[07:02] <troy_s> RamiKassab_: Let me look.
[07:02] <thomasM> ramikassab_ if all you are looking to do is to clean up your panel, i think its backstep, that will iconify all minimized programs to the desktop
[07:03] <spikeb> ugh
[07:03] <Freq> Rami: Right, but OSX has a dock, and it discusses the dock issue
[07:03] <spikeb> that is horrible freq
[07:03] <spikeb> heh
[07:03] <farous> troy_s: ok let me ask dns is same as gatway right or wrong
[07:03] <NoWhereToTurn> Ok trying to install Breezy on this box
[07:03] <Kachingo> Induane: Hmm, mine isn't the latest version, but it's the latest version from the repository
[07:03] <Induane_> Kachingo hehe same as me then
[07:03] <kiko0123> whats the name of the grub cd burning program ?
[07:03] <CurtisB> dmesg|tail ---attempt to access beyond end of device, hdc: rw=0, want=68, limit=4, isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdc, iso_blknum=16, block=16, cdrom: hdc: mrw address space DMA selected
[07:03] <troy_s> RamiKassab_: do "apt-cache search tray" and sift.
[07:03] <NoWhereToTurn> It is complaining about partition 6 of hda having uncorrected errors
[07:03] <bobstro> mcpowley:  once i ran it, it created /etc/rc2.d/S20firestarter, which launches it for me every time. are you sure it's not doing that?
[07:03] <Geoffrey2> is there somewhere I can find a list or database of the files available in the ubuntu repositories..something that describes what they are and what they do?
[07:03] <RamiKassab_> Freq: yeah the dock OSX has is a seperate dock that expands, I want to minimize to the systray
[07:03] <troy_s> farous: Depends... if your on a router, probably the same.
[07:04] <RamiKassab_> Freq: not have a seperate dock
[07:04] <troy_s> farous: if you connect to the net directly, probably not.
[07:04] <kiko0123> hats the name of the grub cd burning program ?
[07:04] <NoWhereToTurn> yet when I do a e2fsck /dev/hda6 there are no errors shown
[07:04] <kiko0123> *whats
[07:04] <farous> troy_s: it is a router setting
[07:04] <troy_s> RamiKassab_: Do that search bro.
[07:04] <RamiKassab_> Freq: kinda like gaim and xchat add themselves to the systray
[07:04] <RamiKassab_> troy_s: Doing it now, thanks
[07:04] <troy_s> farous: Then your default gateway and DNS should route through the router generally.
[07:04] <farous> now i set my resolv.conf too. yet as i reboot all my settings are gone
[07:04] <troy_s> RamiKassab_: There are gabundles.
[07:04] <kiko0123> whats the name of the grub cd burning program ?
[07:05] <troy_s> farous: So what is the error you are getting at the end of all this? I am still unclear, sorry.
[07:05] <RamiKassab_> troy_s: yeah I see that now :)
[07:05] <farous> troy_s: can you give me the command to set the dns in interfaces file
[07:05] <RamiKassab_> troy_s: just wondering if you guys knew what the best were
[07:05] <CurtisB> kiko0123 - i thought grub was the bootloader... maybe it's past my bedtime, i could be wrong
[07:05] <kiko0123> errr sorry Gnome
[07:05] <farous> troy_s: everytime i reboot i have to reconfigure my network for it to work
[07:05] <CurtisB> well, there is gnomebaker
[07:05] <kiko0123> ok thanx
[07:06] <rixth> I keep randomly hearing the login sound. Wtf?
[07:06] <farous> troy_s: i do not know what the cause of the problem though
[07:06] <troy_s> farous: What part of it exactly?  You just need to reconfig it to get it up?
[07:06] <rixth> !tell bobstro about away
[07:06] <troy_s> ubotu, tell RamiKassab_ about better
[07:06] <CurtisB> !tell CurtisB about away
[07:06] <troy_s> RamiKassab_: ;)
[07:06] <farous> i use the network manager utility of gnome so i have to define my dns servers each time i reboot
[07:06] <troytroy> hi i need to revert my desktop manager back to gdm?
[07:07] <farous> troy_s: and my search domain
[07:07] <RamiKassab_> troy_s: haha thanks
[07:07] <troy_s> farous:  and that is with DHCP enabled?!?!?!?!
[07:07] <farous> troytroy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[07:07] <CurtisB> I've got what I hope is a minor problem (on Badger, btw) I burned a data disk with GnomeBaker, but it's not mounting...  Do I need something specific in my fstab?
[07:07] <mcpowley> bobstro:Yeah i have that file...hmm, ill take out the sudo firestarter on my startup and just see what happens
[07:07] <farous> troy_s: no i have static ip
[07:07] <RamiKassab_> troy_s: sorry I'm short on time here these days and like to cut straight to the chase
[07:07] <rixth> !tell CurtisB about msgme
[07:07] <troy_s> farous:  And despite setting the static, mask, and gateway, you need to reconfigure it every time?
[07:07] <mjbjr> spikeb: do you know of any other system manufacturers that build systems for end users that come installed with linux?
[07:07] <bobstro> mcpowley:  start up, then run 'iptables -nvL' to see if the rules are there. it did it automatically for me.
[07:07] <troy_s> RamiKassab_: Yah but you get religious war.
[07:08] <farous> yap
[07:08] <troy_s> farous: Can you pastebin your interfaces file?
[07:08] <spikeb> mjbjr: yeah there are a lot of them actually
[07:08] <troytroy> farous: seems my desktop appears too tiny
[07:08] <spikeb> mjbjr: i'll give you a couple URLs
[07:08] <farous> troy_s: this prob only occured after installing kubuntu though
[07:08] <mjbjr> spikeb: thanks
[07:08] <farous> troy_s: ok no prob
[07:08] <Kachingo> Induane: Where do you set which IP version the program uses? I can't see that
[07:08] <CurtisB> I set GnomeBaker with joilet + rockridge... can't mount the data disk
[07:08] <troy_s> farous: I always knew KDE was evil ;)
[07:08] <RamiKassab_> troy_s: point taken
[07:08] <NoWhereToTurn> thank god .. appears that breezy is installing
[07:08] <Induane_> Kachingo for me it just is an option right underneith where the ip address shows
[07:09] <farous> troy_s: lol it is not just knew ;)
[07:09] <farous> i am sure it is just bad script somewhere
[07:09] <Induane_> Kachingo vaalnor.mine.nu/Screenshot.png
[07:09] <Kachingo> Induane: Is yours 0.95.4?
[07:09] <spikeb> mjbjr: they're all mostly laptop vendors though hmmm
[07:10] <ilba7r> !pastebin
[07:10] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[07:10] <SAM_theman> yo you see now "sudo gedit" works this is without my nvidia card
[07:10] <Induane_> .96.1
[07:10] <NoWhereToTurn> is there a problem with this IRC server in that the posts sometimes come down in bursts?
[07:10] <spikeb> mjbjr: check this out http://www.linux.org/vendor/system/index.html
[07:10] <qatsi> hello all!!...anyone knows how to edit a file contained inside a .deb file ?
[07:10] <mjbjr> spikeb: thanks
[07:10] <troy_s> NoWhereToTurn: Lag.
[07:10] <kaizoku> hello
[07:10] <Kachingo> Induane: WTF! Which repository was it from?
[07:11] <Induane_> Kachingo refer to my sources.list  vaalnor.mine.nu/sources.list
[07:11] <kaizoku> does anyone here know what a "[4294669.612000]  ..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
[07:11] <kaizoku> " error is?
[07:11] <qatsi> ayone ?
[07:11] <tga> anyone here using an Orinoco card on Dapper?
[07:11] <Induane_> I use the sweedish repos as its faster for me
[07:11] <Kachingo> Induane: How convenient, thank you
[07:11] <Induane_> Kachingo :D
[07:11] <ilba7r> troy_s: ok here is the file. this is my farous from my problametic pc http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15590
[07:11] <Geoffrey2> tga, me
[07:11] <tga> Geoffrey2, WEP or unencrypted?
[07:11] <Geoffrey2> tga, WEP
[07:11] <CurtisB> okay, nobody seems to be able to help me with my gnomenbaker data disk not mounting.. is there an other way to burn a backup data disk?
[07:11] <farous> troy_s: ok i sent you the file and will continue chatting from my other pc
[07:12] <tga> Geoffrey2, did you have any problems after upgrading to Dapper?
[07:12] <NoWhereToTurn> So breezy is a release that is fine to use and there is no need to upgrade to daper.. correct?
[07:12] <Bruva> heya all
[07:12] <kaizoku> does anyone here know what a "[4294669.612000]  ..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC" error is?
[07:12] <Bruva> ;)
[07:12] <tga> Geoffrey2, I can't get my Orinocos to work for some unknown reason
[07:12] <bobstro> CurtisB:  should work. i use k3b often.
[07:12] <Kachingo> Induane: I wonder if the NZ repository is behind yours, is that possible?
[07:12] <kaizoku> please? any help?
[07:12] <Flannel> NoWhereToTurn: Breezy when it was released is just like Dapper is now.
[07:12] <Induane_> Kachingo vaalnor.mine.nu/preferences <-- you need this in /etc/apt if you want to be able to download and install wine
[07:13] <Geoffrey2> tga, actually, I'm just getting started in this world of Linux...so Dapper was a fresh install for me, having never used any earlier versions
[07:13] <qatsi> how do i edit a file thats inside a .deb file ??
[07:13] <Flannel> kaizoku: unless you ask a question, we can't ansewr it
[07:13] <Induane_> Kachingo its certainly possible... I'm in the US and those repoitories work great for me
[07:13] <qatsi> anyone please help!
[07:13] <CurtisB> bobstro thanks, i guess i'll have to revisit this tomorrow.... c'est la vie. thanks everyone!
[07:13] <tga> Geoffrey2, okay, did wireless just work for you then?
[07:13] <kaizoku> does anyone here know what a "[4294669.612000]  ..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC" error is?
[07:13] <kaizoku> that's what I was asking
[07:13] <AngryElf> where is ubuntu's equivolent of /etc/ld.so.conf ????
[07:13] <kaizoku> sorry
[07:13] <Bruva> ummm - I was hoping that some of you good folk wld have some tips on getting the wound to work in with Dapper - It worked fine under breezy, with the upgrade I reformated my HD & started from scratch - and now there's no sound, even though the Sound setting show the correct onboard driver - wierdness. Anyhow, anybody got any advice?
[07:13] <Flannel> kaizoku: oh, sorry,no I just missed it, three times looking.
[07:14] <kaizoku> no problem
[07:14] <Bruva> wound = sound (typo)
[07:14] <Geoffrey2> actually, my notebook has a Broadcom internal, and I fought like crazy before giving up on ever getting it to work...installed the Orinoco card and went right online
[07:14] <Kachingo> Induane: I'll probibly sound like a n00b, but what is wine?
[07:14] <qatsi> Bruva: do alsamixer in terminal, mute the external amplifier, it always works that way :p
[07:14] <kaizoku> it's an emulator to run windows programs
[07:14] <phiber_optic> how do i do to update to dapper drake??
[07:15] <kaizoku> it stands for (W)ine (i)s (n)ot an (e)mulator
[07:15] <Induane_> Kachingo wine is a special compatiblity layer that allows you to run many windows programs in linux
 Cheers mate, I'll give it a try
[07:15] <troy_s> ubotu, tell phiber_optic about ugprade
[07:15] <kiko0123> kaizoku, what is it then ?
[07:15] <bobstro> hmm... after upgrade to dapper, volume + & - are reversed. is this common?
[07:15] <ilba7r> troy_s: have you looked into my paste bin it is simplistic http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15590
[07:15] <phiber_optic> !upgrade
[07:15] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[07:15] <Kachingo> Induane: Do I need it for this program?