[07:54] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:19] <andrewlsd> inetpro: morning :-)
[08:46] <Kilos> morning everyone and inetpro
[10:11] <andrewlsd> Hi Kilos
[10:11] <andrewlsd> (delayed greeting)
[10:12] <Kilos> hi andrewlsd
[10:12] <Kilos> lol
[10:12] <andrewlsd> ;-P
[15:19] <Kilos> sigh mtn 2g
[15:28] <magespawn> good evening all
[15:30] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[15:34] <magespawn> hey Kilos, long time, ne?
[15:34] <Kilos> yeah forever
[15:35] <Kilos> all good?
[15:35] <magespawn> yup, heactically busy and you?
[15:35] <Kilos> i greeted you yesterday i think but you were afk
[15:35] <Kilos> still kicking lad
[15:50] <magespawn> sorry, i tend to be like that quiet a bit.
[15:55] <Kilos> lol
[15:55] <Kilos> np im not here most of the time as well
[15:56] <Kilos> lekker out in the sun
[16:02] <magespawn> yup nice with summer comming around.
[18:12] <magespawn> good night all


[19:59] <scootergrisen> Is it to late to get translation changes into ubuntu before the release with GNOME it in?


 @ahoneybun @Rick_Timmis Looks like the polls voted us all back in for KC
 That's great news ☺
 @Valoriez could you do the extension of terms for the 3 of us, just to keep everything above board
 Ah excellent!
[20:34] <valorie> koolness!
[20:34] <valorie> and congratulations


[07:52] <kraut> moin
[10:11] <imbrandon> ok i have kinda a strange issue i'm not sure how to debug enough to even file a meaningfull bug or fix myself, but if someone helps me figure it out i'll be more than happy to do so ...
[10:11] <imbrandon> i installed hardy alpha-1 on a ppc iMac rev1
[10:11] <imbrandon> install went fine ( alternate installer )
[10:11] <imbrandon> nothing special, all defualt options
[10:12] <imbrandon> anyhow on reboot i get droped to a initramfs busybox shell
[10:12] <imbrandon> and i need to "modprobe ide-disk;^C-d" to successfully boot
[10:13] <imbrandon> i tried dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r` and updateinitramfs -u after adding ide-disk to /etc/modules
[10:13] <imbrandon> neither worked
[10:13]  * imbrandon goes back to idleing unless someone poke him with ideas
[10:24]  * abogani would like update KernelTeam/Contacts wiki page. Who is contact for 2.6.24 component?
[10:33] <maks_> imbrandon: /etc/initramfs-tools/modules as workaround
[10:34] <maks_> but your trouble sounds like something that got solved long time ago
[10:34] <maks_> don't know why it reappears in ubuntu
[10:36] <imbrandon> yea this is a brand new hardy fresh install, no dual booting etc
[10:36] <imbrandon> should be streight forward
[10:37] <imbrandon> if there is any system specific info i can give lemme know
[10:37] <imbrandon> and i'll try that work arround
[10:37] <imbrandon> maks_: ^^
[10:38] <gaspa> imbrandon: did you just try to select another kernel on grub menu?
[10:38] <imbrandon> gaspa: it never gets that far, fresh alpha-1 install anyhow, no other kernels
[10:39] <imbrandon> gaspa: sides ppc uses yaboot, but i know what ya mean :)
[10:40] <gaspa> ok, i want to know only if you are sure of booting without the 'single' kernel option
[10:40] <imbrandon> yes, positive
[10:41] <imbrandon> image=/boot/vmlinux label=Linux read-only initrd=/boot/initrd.img append="quiet splash"
[10:41] <imbrandon> gaspa: ^^
[10:41] <imbrandon> thats the default ( that gets booted into ) yaboot.conf entry
[10:41] <imbrandon> fyi
[10:44] <gaspa> imbrandon: i know it's not a solution, but you could use the break=... option to take a look in initrd booting phases... for trying to understand what's the problem.
[10:45] <imbrandon> gaspa: ok i'll try that
[10:51] <maks_> imbrandon: changelog helps, yes it was 2.6.15, where udev did not load ide-disk
[10:51] <maks_> so file a bug report against udev
[10:52] <maks_> don't know why it regressed in that aspect, also i thought ubuntu was using pata everywhere
[10:52] <maks_> (i'm debian only :)
[11:00] <imbrandon> maks_: fwiw i just got this system and havent tried any other OS / Version on it other than the pre-loaded OSX 10.2 I got when i purchased it
[11:00] <imbrandon> but i might try older versions and debian etch/sid also just to see where else it happens
[11:01] <imbrandon> i think i have an sid ppc netinstall disk here somewhere :)
[11:01] <imbrandon> err etch
[11:14] <gaspa> imbrandon,tell us the results. :)
[11:14] <imbrandon> definately
[11:14] <gaspa> maks_: hardy doens't seem to have changes for udev.
[11:48] <mark> hi, are people seeing regressions in gutsy's (server) kernel compared to feisty's?
[11:49] <mark> I'm seeing it being 2-3x slower for certain things, and various other weirdness
[12:01] <mark> I wonder if it has to do with the SLAB allocator changes
[12:01] <mark> servers suddenly under socket memory pressure, LVS forwarding being slower
[13:33] <zul> I HATE SNOW!!
[13:33] <ivoks> i love it
[13:34] <zul> ivoks: we are suppose to get 45cm of snow today.
[13:34] <ivoks> luck you
[13:34] <ivoks> we have just this ugly rain
[13:35] <thegodfather> hey ivoks
[13:35] <thegodfather> ivoks: looks like we did it also on dapper :)
[13:35] <ivoks> he fabio
[13:35] <thegodfather> ivoks: kees has everything in his inbox.. should be in the next kernel update
[13:35] <ivoks> the fix? yeah, i've seen it
[13:35] <ivoks> thegodfather: i hope that will happen very soon :)
[13:35] <thegodfather> ivoks: yeps
[13:36] <thegodfather> ivoks: should be..
[13:36] <thegodfather> i have no control over it
[13:36] <thegodfather> sorry
[13:36] <ivoks> i know :)
[13:37] <ivoks> hopefully, none of my servers will die before kernel upgrade :)
[13:39] <thegodfather> :)
[13:42] <soren> Do we have lvs in our kernels?
[13:42] <mark> yes
[13:44] <ivoks> yes, we have cluster stuff very well covered
[13:44] <ivoks> i would say drbd is only missing piece :)
[13:45] <mark> drbd would be nice
[13:45] <ivoks> mark: plan is to have it in main in 8.04, at least as a additional module source
[13:45] <mark> nice
[13:45] <soren> It's already there? drbd8-source
[13:46] <ivoks> is't not in main
[13:47] <soren> If it were in main it wouldn't be as a separate source packages.
[13:47] <soren> s/packages/package/
[13:47] <mark> anyway, 2.6.22-server in gutsy doesn't look too great here
[13:47] <mark> but I need to do more testing
[16:33] <_stranger_> hi everyone! Is there any way i can get help here regarding kernel compillation?
[16:39] <_stranger_> anyone here?
[16:40] <rtg> _stranger_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMaintenance
[20:48] <tsmithe> BenC, poke re the alsa-firmware issue (i think I pm'd you earlier)
[20:49] <BenC> tsmithe: yes, what about it?
[20:49] <tsmithe> i was wondering how to get the firmwares included into l-r-m
[20:50] <tsmithe> i'm not familiar with the build system, so would need a little coaching. i sent a message to the kernel-team list about this a couple of weeks ago
[20:50] <BenC> tsmithe: just duplicate what was done for the dvb firmware
[20:51] <tsmithe> ok, i will check that out. thank you :)
[21:07] <el_cubano> Hello.  Could someone explain this error: "Checking ABI for 386...previous or current ABI file missing" ?
[21:07] <el_cubano> It does not come up anyhere in Google.
[21:08] <el_cubano> I am trying to build packages from linux-source-2.6.22 on Dapper using dpkg-buildpackage.


[12:32] <mrgoodcat> https://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/446847 do you ever wonder how these things ship?


[04:15] <leor> hello
[04:15] <leor> anyone here?
[04:16] <leor> who have the audio plugin not working properly?
[04:31] <leor> hi
[04:33] <leor> I found a fix for audio plugin
[04:47] <jeevanus> hi, im using a USB Wifi dongle, but its not detecting
[04:47] <jeevanus> its showing in lsusb
[04:47] <jeevanus> can some one help?
[04:49] <leor> hold on
[04:53] <leor> what is your dongle?
[05:00] <jeevanus> Leoxsys
[05:00] <jeevanus> Leoxyx LEO-NANO 150N
[05:06] <leor> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2149754
[16:19] <trond_> how to install silverlight
[16:19] <holstein> !silverlight
[16:20] <holstein> trond_: ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu, so you follow whatever method the silverlight team/devs say you should for ubuntu
[16:20] <holstein> !info moonlight-plugin-mozilla
[16:23] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/318284/moonlight-silverlight-is-it-still-working seems relevant
[16:23] <trond_> where can i download moonlight package
[16:24] <holstein> !moonlight
[16:24] <holstein> trond_: where ever its hosted.. and how ever that team makes it available
[20:19] <ebitz> Anybody on how to save my display setup using nvidia settings panel? Save Config seems to not work
[20:20] <ebitz> Using 13.10 and nvidia 319
[20:44] <iamhere> i'm having a little problem understanding all the sound systems in US
[20:45] <iamhere> can anyone help me?
[20:46] <iamhere> hello?


[00:33] <JanC> nothing in the APT logs?
[00:36] <sarnold> i've never learned anything useful from dpkg logs, so I never think to look there
[00:36] <sarnold> and I didn't remember that apt actually logs the terminal output until yesterday, in the shower .. I thought "I should ask the apt team to always log the terminal output, that'd be useful!" and then it hit me, that feature already exists. heh.
[00:37] <sarnold> so when I had a guy on irc, I hadn't thought to ask for those logs. when I remembered, nobody on irc. :(
[01:05] <JanC> at the very least the APT logs would show what else was upgraded at the same time
[01:05] <JanC> most likely one of those packages is involved...
[01:07] <sarnold> yeah
[01:07] <sarnold> having the term log of the event would answer so many questions :(
[01:07] <JanC> also, a list packages that were installed before & after might be useful
[01:08] <JanC> (also, it might be a _missing_ package, but that would also be derivable from all that)