[12:12] <ticless2> it says: /lib/libpam.so.0.79: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
[12:13] <_adaptr> ticless2: and ls -l still shows it to be a block device ?
[12:13] <ticless2> well yes but thats the symlink: libpam.so.0: setuid sticky block special (218/44)
[12:14] <ticless2> file /lib/libpam.so.0 says: libpam.so.0: setuid sticky block special (218/44)
[12:14] <intelikey> i don't know what's been causing it.....
[12:14] <logicalbomb> intelikey
[12:14] <logicalbomb> any advice on synchro or smartphone OS swap
[12:14] <_adaptr> ticless2: so it'
[12:14] <_adaptr> s no longer a symlink, then ?
[12:14] <intelikey> logicalbomb no networking is not me
[12:15] <ticless2> I don't think so
[12:16] <logicalbomb> !smartphone
[12:16] <ubotu> A guide to syncing smartphones can be found here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86302
[12:16] <ticless2> _adaptr: it diffently not a symlink anymore
[12:17] <intelikey> 6.6 /lib/libpam.so.0 is a link
[12:17] <ticless2> ldconfig complains about it too: ldconfig: /lib/libpam.so.0 is not a symbolic link
[12:17] <logicalbomb> wow
[12:17] <_adaptr> ticless2: if you google it: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/device-list/devices.txt
[12:17] <logicalbomb> syncing smartphone is way beyond my user skills
[12:17] <intelikey> you could move it to /lib/libpam.so.0.real and symlink that
[12:18] <_adaptr> ticless2: you get this: 		218 = /dev/kchuid	Inter-process chuid control
[12:18] <logicalbomb> that is a lot of work
[12:18] <_adaptr> ticless2: looks like either a very rogue process doing this, or somebidy's been and gone cracked your box - this is PAM we're talking about!
[12:19] <_adaptr> ticless2: I'd try to unlink it first, and re-make the symlink:
[12:19] <ticless2> well I did undock my laptop and did do a couples of reboots so I guess it's my own fault
[12:20] <intelikey> _adaptr hackers ?     no !
[12:20] <_adaptr> ticless2: unlink /lib/libpam.so.0 && ln -s /lib/libpam.so.0.79 /lib/libpam.so.0
[12:20] <ticless2> unlink: cannot unlink `/lib/libpam.so.0': Operation not permitted
[12:20] <ticless2> I am root
[12:21] <_adaptr> ticless2: did you run lsof against libpam.so.0 ?
[12:21] <intelikey> ? /lib/libpam.so.0.79  that's 6.6's version  does edgy use the same ?
[12:21] <tony_> anyone know how to create a service menu to convert a file with ffmpeg on right-click?
[12:21] <ticless2> _adaptr: no I did not manually run lsof
[12:21] <ticless2> how can I force it to unlink?
[12:22] <voidmage> I want my printer to print the pages in reverse order (so when it's done page 1 is on top instead of the last page). How can i do that?
[12:22] <_adaptr> ticless2: well, it won't run itself
[12:22] <ticless2> oki
[12:22] <_adaptr> ticless2: do you understand what unlink does, or what lsof means ?
[12:22] <Admiral_Chicago> tony_, what are you trying to do?
[12:22] <ticless2> I don't know Isof
[12:22] <tony_> use a ffmpeg command to convert an flv to mmpeg
[12:23] <intelikey> lsof = list open file
[12:23] <_adaptr> ticless2: then please just run it, okay ? you need more info before you can determine your next step
[12:23] <ticless2> and normally I only unlink symlinks, not something like this 3,7GB device
[12:23] <tony_> it seems easy enough but i haven't the knowledge but the patience to learn but i don't even know where to start
[12:24] <ticless2> lsof /lib/libpam.so.0 gives me nothing
[12:25] <voidmage> I want my printer to print the pages in reverse order (so when it's done page 1 is on top instead of the last page). How can i do that?
[12:25] <Dr_willis> voidmage,  want to know how i did it? :P
[12:25] <Dr_willis> voidmage,  i installex xpp and selected reverse order and let it save that as the default.
[12:25] <voidmage> Dr_willis:  sure?
[12:25] <_adaptr> ticless2: that's because lsof does not take parameters; run "lsof | grep libpam"
[12:26] <Dr_willis> THEN i noticed that theres an opton in Konqueror to do that.
[12:26] <Dr_willis> but not in firefox.
[12:26] <intelikey> doesn't cups have that option anyway ?
[12:26] <ticless2> yeah I just figured :) but still nothing
[12:26] <Dr_willis> i dident see it in the cups configs.
[12:26] <voidmage> anyone know where it is in openoffice at least?
[12:26] <intelikey> i'm pretty sure i have seen it....  in 6.6
[12:27] <intelikey> voidmage click to print something and when it asks for confirmation config that puppy
[12:27] <_adaptr> ticless2: have you rebooted the box ? (runlevel 6 should do as well)
[12:28] <voidmage> ah, i found it in openoffice at least now
[12:28] <ticless2> yes many times, I'm in runlevel 1 i guess, because the only way I can login is to boot in recovery mode and login as root
[12:28] <voidmage> pretty well hidden
[12:29] <intelikey> yeah it's not on the desktop on first boot....
[12:29] <ticless2> if I continue to runlevel 2 it crashes with the "cannot open shared object file..." and wont even let me login
[12:29] <_adaptr> ticless2: you mean single user mode - which effectively bypasses PAM :)
[12:29] <ticless2> yes
[12:30] <intelikey> runlevel 1 == single user mode
[12:30] <ticless2> I guess it the only option I have right now :)
[12:30] <Pupeno> Hello.
[12:30] <Admiral_Chicago> tony_, i had a website to do that
[12:30] <Admiral_Chicago> err that showed me how to do that
[12:30] <_adaptr> okay then, next step: try to forcibly remove the block device.. just hope it isn't actually a partition of some sort.. still weird that that would be recreated every bootup
[12:30] <d03boy> Wireless Assistant seems to be doing a decent job of connecting me to wireless networks but I was wondering if there was something more of a service type of thing that I can use so I dont have to run this program every single time
[12:31] <Pupeno> I have just restored a backup of ~/.kde/share/app/kmail and ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc because I am in a new installation and kmail doesn't start. I run it from the Konsole and nothing happens. 10 minutes and nothing happened. Any ideas ?
[12:31] <intelikey> ticless2 if /lib/libpam.so.0.79 exists i'd rm /lib/libpam.so.0 && ln -s /lib/libpam.so.0.79 /lib/libpam.so.0
[12:31] <ticless2> _adaptr: I dont get I either...how do I remove the block device
[12:31] <intelikey> there is no way there should be a 3g socket there...
[12:31] <Admiral_Chicago> tony_, try this ffmpg -i foo.flv -ab 64 -b 44100 -s 320x 240 foo.mpg
[12:31] <ticless2> intelikey: well I tried that but I cant do rm /lib/libpam.so.0
[12:32] <Admiral_Chicago> make sure to cd into the right directory
[12:32] <intelikey> ticless2 why not ?
[12:32] <Admiral_Chicago> ffmpeg*
[12:32] <ticless2> rm: cannot remove `libpam.so.0': Operation not permitted
[12:32] <intelikey> as root ?
[12:32] <ticless2> yes
[12:32] <_adaptr> ticless2: rm -f
[12:32] <_adaptr> force it
[12:32] <intelikey> chattr -i
[12:32] <ticless2> still not permitted
[12:33] <_adaptr> oh, and that :)
[12:33] <_adaptr> it may be immutable, yes
[12:33] <ticless2> hmm how do I nuke it then?
[12:33] <intelikey> chattr -i
[12:33] <intelikey> chattr -i /lib/libpam.so.0 ; rm /lib/libpam.so.0
[12:34] <intelikey> if that works symlink it. as above
[12:34] <Admiral_Chicago> tony_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5
[12:34] <_adaptr> and then try ldconfig, of course - if that works now, change backto runlevel 2
[12:35] <ticless2> intelikey: stille not permittet
[12:35] <ticless2> damit I need more force :)
[12:35] <intelikey> we're given all she's got cappen'
[12:36] <_adaptr> ticless2: do you have some sort of LiveCD, like Knoppix, or DSL ?
[12:36] <intelikey> shunt the dylithium crystles...
[12:36] <_adaptr> www.damnsmalllinux.org, it's about 50MB
[12:36] <intelikey> and go to warp
[12:37] <_adaptr> intelikey: really not helping
[12:37] <ticless2> well I can download the kubuntu livecd right?
[12:37] <_adaptr> ticless2: of course, but it'll take longer
[12:37] <_adaptr> that it will be the same version as your b0rked system might help, though
[12:37] <intelikey> ticless2 knoppix is better for that sort of thing   imo
[12:37] <ticless2> what is the bare minimum?
[12:37] <tony_> i'm back, my pc crashed
[12:38] <_adaptr> ticless2: you need ext3 tools of sufficient version
[12:38] <tony_> again, anyone know how to convert a command into a service menu?
[12:38] <intelikey> bare minimim about two floppies
[12:38] <Admiral_Chicago> tony_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5
[12:38] <_adaptr> and toms rootboot should have those
[12:38] <Admiral_Chicago> thats the best i can do
[12:38] <tony_> thanks
[12:38] <_adaptr> ONE floppy :)
[12:38] <ticless2> ohh nice
[12:38] <ticless2> where to find it?
[12:38] <_adaptr> erm.. google ?
[12:38] <ticless2> nice
[12:38] <ticless2> 2 sec :)
[12:39] <_adaptr> you do know about this fancy new search engine, right ?
[12:39] <intelikey> _adaptr sorry i can't call a busybox shell bare minimum   but that's just me.
[12:39] <_adaptr> it's like, they index like, 100 web pages or so.. really, really kool stuff
[12:39] <Dr_willis> you mean Moogle?
[12:39] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:39] <Dr_willis> or was it boogle?
[12:39] <_adaptr> intelikey: sure, but why do you say 2 floppies, then
[12:39] <ticless2> well I heard about it but I only give it a couple of years
[12:39] <_adaptr> intelikey: I can boot a kernel with FS tools inside 500KB
[12:40] <_adaptr> if we define "bare minimum" for the task at hand.. he'll need 3 commands max
[12:40] <intelikey> _adaptr cause the only packaged boot disk with a bash shell and basic file utils i have found is 2 floppies  and upward
[12:41] <_adaptr> none of which would be needed here, strictly speaking
[12:41] <_adaptr> you'd need A shell, and 2 or 3 file utils
[12:41] <intelikey> yean but i call that a hack not a minimal system.
[12:41] <_adaptr> nobody said anything about a minimal *system* :)
[12:42] <_adaptr> it's not like he needs to play nethack with it, or run emacs
[12:42] <intelikey> he might
[12:42] <intelikey> :)
[12:42] <Dr_willis> emacs is an os. :)
[12:42] <_adaptr> wahahaha good one
[12:43] <intelikey> and granted a glorified grub prompt (less than 60k) could do what is needed there....
[12:44] <Dr_willis> BusyBoxLinux
[12:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:44] <Dr_willis> 1 command with<PHONE_NUMBER>0000 links/names
[12:44] <intelikey> Dr_willis been there :)
[12:44] <_adaptr> I think you mean 1 executablke with a hundred uses...
[12:44] <_adaptr> it's rather more than 1 command
[12:45] <intelikey> one app
[12:45] <Dr_willis> one .exe :)
[12:45] <intelikey> yeah but it's not .exe  :)
[12:45] <ticless2> _adaptr: creating bootable cd right now so what then?
[12:45] <d03boy> anyone know where the config file for synergy is?
[12:45] <_adaptr> ticless2: boot it :)
[12:45] <intelikey> and rm that file
[12:46] <Dr_willis> d03boy,  you make one.
[12:46] <Dr_willis> d03boy,  and when ya run the command you tell it wat one to use
[12:46] <_adaptr> ticless2: then mount your root partition and find the /lib directory
[12:46] <intelikey> then symlink it and reboot
[12:46] <_adaptr> ticless2: and blast that block device to shiny oblivion
[12:46] <_adaptr> intelikey: don't anticipate my responses !
[12:46] <_adaptr> but yeah, what he said
[12:46] <Dr_willis> d03boy,  look in ------->  /usr/share/doc/synergy/doc   for details
[12:47] <intelikey> had nothing to do with you _adaptr  i assure you.
[12:47] <ticless2> sounds great
[12:48] <_adaptr> it is, rather.. I have never yet had a system break beyond salvaging under Linux...
[12:48] <_adaptr> now try this trick on WindBlowz
[12:48] <intelikey> ticless2 a mount   command right now should tell you where the device for  / is
[12:48] <_adaptr> first thing, it requires you to *log in* to the on-disk system.. which you can't, if your SAM is b0rked
[12:48] <intelikey> so you can mount it in the live cd under /mnt   or something
[12:49] <d03boy> i think you can adaptr
[12:49] <_adaptr> ticless2: do an fdisk -l to find your root partition, then mount that partition on /mnt/something
[12:50] <intelikey> something being superflutious but what ever.
[12:51] <_adaptr> not really... Ubuntu mounts stuff under /mnt by default, so likely the directory will NOT be empty, even on tghe LiveCD
[12:51] <_adaptr> to be safe, I'd mkdir /mnt/test first, then mount on that
[12:51] <intelikey> ubuntu doesnt' use /mnt at all
[12:52] <intelikey> it uses /media
[12:52] <_adaptr> of course you can mount over whatever is already under /mnt, but that's hardly clean
[12:53] <_adaptr> really ? IIRC, the LiveCD maps your current HD partitions to /mnt
[12:53] <intelikey>  /media
[12:53] <_adaptr> the way Knoppix does: /mnt/hda1 etc.
[12:53] <brett> Hello all
[12:53] <_adaptr> I wouldn't know, I just sue /mnt to bring up my NFS shares
[12:53] <ticless2> crap
[12:53] <_adaptr> erm, that would be use
[12:54] <_adaptr> crap ?
[12:54] <_adaptr> that does not sound happy
[12:54] <ticless2> toms boot image is not a usable image
[12:54] <brett> I want to do a little programming...what is the best channel for help with c programming.... in perticular editing open source kubuntu games?
[12:54] <_adaptr> ticless2: what do you mean? what did you do with it ?
[12:54] <ticless2> I have no floppydrive so need a bootable cd
[12:54] <_adaptr> ticless2: then you can't really use toms, can you ?
[12:55] <Dr_willis> there are cdrom bersions of tomsboot stuff.
[12:55] <ticless2> downloaded the tomsrtbt-2.0.103.ElTorito.288.img and tried to burn it
[12:55] <intelikey> brett ##C if you know c  if not  i'm not sure there is a "best channel for help with c programming"    because you'd be asking someone to teach you C
[12:56] <brett> intelikey: no, i know how to program fine... the problems i am having are related to compiling other peoples code
[12:56] <_adaptr> brett: I guess you would start by.. dunno, learning to program ?
[12:56] <Admiral_Chicago> brett, #kdegames maybe
[12:56] <_adaptr> brett: there are plenty of resources on the Intarweb to get started
[12:56] <brett> _adaptr: i know how to program fine
[12:56] <intelikey> brett yeah prolly ##C then.
[12:56] <brett> thanks
[12:57] <ticless2> argh dooh
[12:57] <ticless2> toms img is not at burnable image its a floppy image to create a cd bootable image from
[12:58] <intelikey> brett they will expect "smart questions"  do your home work first.
[12:58] <brett> intelikey: how about how do you compile someones source code? is that too stupid?
[12:58] <intelikey> prolly
[12:58] <_adaptr> if you don't know that, then what do you program on ? Windows ?
[12:59] <intelikey> brett google "smart questions"
[12:59] <d03boy> many people do program on windows
[12:59] <Sanne> brett: usually, you download the source and look at the readme in the archive.
[12:59] <d03boy> its not exactly uncommon
[12:59] <brett> Sanne: there isnt a readme
[12:59] <_adaptr> d03boy: not saying it, merely hinting that it'll take him some work to get up to speed on *nix programming in that case
[01:00] <intelikey> brett source dirs often contain a file or two in uppercase  they are doc's  read them.
[01:00] <Sanne> brett: that's unusual. What program is it? Is there a webpage with instrucions maybe?
[01:00] <_adaptr> coding is coding, but the APIs are *wildly* different
[01:01] <brett> Sanne: Konquest
[01:01] <intelikey> API -vs- IDE
[01:01] <brett> intelikey: the only uppercase file is called FILES... and that doesnt read well
[01:01] <_adaptr> brett: is it an RPM you're looking into ?
[01:02] <Sanne> brett: here's some general info for starters, though it may not exactly apply to every program: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[01:02] <brett> _adaptr: no
[01:02] <_adaptr> FILES files usually just list the contents of the package
[01:03] <d03boy> bah, i cant figure out how to set up this synergy client
[01:03] <d03boy> the server is set up fine
[01:03] <Sanne> brett: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdegames/konquest/compilation.html
[01:03] <d03boy> oh, it works... haha. no config needed
[01:03] <brett> Sanne: that looks useful
[01:04] <_adaptr> d03boy: http://www.deanspot.org/content/view/71/46/, 3 sec google
[01:04] <d03boy> what is google?
[01:04] <_adaptr> "no documentation" indeed
[01:04] <d03boy> is that like metacrawler?
[01:04] <Sanne> brett: yeah, and as I see the link I gave before that kinda applies as background knowledge, so you may wnat to read it also.
[01:04] <_adaptr> nooo, it's more like YooHoo, only more better
[01:05] <d03boy> oh how nice
[01:05] <brett> Sanne: those commands do not work
[01:05] <intelikey> heep mo' betta' n' good !
[01:05] <_adaptr> lots an' lots, yah
[01:05] <Sanne> brett: what's the error? (if it's too much text, please use the pastebin)
[01:06] <brett> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[01:06] <intelikey> make
[01:06] <Sanne> brett: did you get the sources from cvs?
[01:07] <intelikey> konquest in cvs ?
[01:07] <intelikey> is konquest still active ?
[01:07] <Sanne> intelikey: just checking, I don't know konquest at all
[01:07] <brett> cvs?
[01:07] <brett> what is that
[01:08] <intelikey> it hasn't changed in 4 years  afaik
[01:08] <SlimG> is there a command that outputs the current bios version on the mainboard?
[01:08] <intelikey> SlimG lshw might have it
[01:08] <intelikey> key word 'might'
[01:09] <Sanne> brett: cvs is a repository where developers work on the code, so you would get development snapshots from cvs. But if you don't know, you didn't get it from cvs ;)
[01:09] <brett> Sanne: i dont remeber where i got it
[01:09] <intelikey> SlimG dmesg might have it   you can pipe either through grep and/or less
[01:10] <Sanne> brett: that's a pity, because that would have been my next question, so I could have a look.
[01:10] <brett> Sanne: yeah i was searching for a while and kinda got lucky
[01:11] <SlimG> intelikey: thanx alot! i'll have a look
[01:11] <Sanne> brett: there's another option if you want to conmpile konquest yourself. since it is in the ubuntu repositories, you could apt-get the source package and compile a proper ubuntu package out of it.
[01:12] <brett> Sanne: thats a good idea
[01:12] <Sanne> brett: or, you could get the original source tar.gz without Ubuntu patches and try to compile that
[01:13] <Sanne> brett: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/games/konquest
[01:13] <brett> Sanne: i found a way to compile all the kde games at once rather then just konquest
[01:13] <Sanne> brett: that's also nice, if you want that.
[01:13] <brett> Sanne: hmm
[01:13] <brett> Sanne: ok i type ./configure
[01:13] <Cuddles_Laptop> evening all.
[01:13] <brett> Sanne: it ran
[01:14] <Sanne> brett: cool :)
[01:14] <BluesKaj> how does one get back to the original default KDE desktop appearance or "look" ?
[01:14] <DralaFi> I bypassed the initrd, now I don't get the media actions window when I insert a USB storage device. I had a look at the initrd and don't think I missed anything, I copied bits of udev script to real script on the real rootfs. Udev, dbus and hal all work. I just can't get KDE to detect a new media device. Can anyone please lend a hand?
[01:14] <brett> Sanne: then i typed make and i got an error
[01:14] <brett> Sanne: make install didn't work either
[01:14] <Sanne> brett: which one? (-> pastebin)
[01:14] <brett> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[01:14] <shulman> how do I share a folder in edgy eft? When I try sharing the folder publicly, my windows machines keep getting prompted to log in
[01:15] <Cuddles_Laptop> quick question. is there any way to have my wireless automatically connect on startup, rather than waiting for me to use the wireless assistant?
[01:15] <Sanne> brett: hmmm, don't know what that means, sorry. Does anybody else know?
[01:15] <DralaFi> Sanne, brett: sounds like there's no makefile in your current directory
[01:15] <Sanne> brett: oh, do you have build-essential installed?
[01:16] <Cuddles_Laptop> brett, make sure you have a makefile.
[01:16] <bomber> hows it going folks?
[01:16] <bomber> i got a problem
[01:16] <brett> Sanne: yeah i installed build essentials...and there is several make files
[01:16] <Sanne> brett: then I don't knwo further, sorry.
[01:16] <Cuddles_Laptop> brett, is there a specific file called ''Makefile''
[01:17] <DralaFi> make -f makefile_that_you_want
[01:17] <brett> Cuddles_Laptop: no... there are files called makefile but they all have extensions
[01:17] <bomber> i just installed an nvidia card on dapper drake and the nvidia drivers but im not getting the option for the 1280x1024 that my monitor can do
[01:17] <[Nige] > anyone having problems with edgy with X not starting automatically at boot?
[01:17] <Cuddles_Laptop> ah, there's the problem then.
[01:17] <DralaFi> makefile.unix   makefile.dos ?
[01:18] <_adaptr> brett: then it has to be autoconfigged first.. they're called Makefile.in, and such, yes ?
[01:18] <DralaFi> make -f makefile.unix
[01:18] <BluesKaj> I'll repeat myself : how does one get back to the original default KDE desktop appearance or "look" ....any ideas ?
[01:18] <shulman> bomber: have you tried adding the resoltion to your xorg.conf ?
[01:18] <Launch-L> hello all.. first time here
[01:18] <DralaFi> BluesKaj, press defaults button
[01:18] <intelikey> brett ffr no make *  command will work without a makefile    afaik anyway.
[01:18] <ticless2> _adaptr: here goes if you never hear from me again it's because I have nuked my hole laptop :)
[01:18] <bomber> yes and no difference
[01:18] <_adaptr> ticless2: good luck :)
[01:18] <BluesKaj> there aren't any in appearances
[01:19] <brett> _adaptr: yes
[01:19] <brett> _adaptr: .in and a few others
[01:19] <Sanne> Launchpad-Lap: welcome :)
[01:19] <Launchpad-Lap> Guys i have a question, is there any difference between kubuntu and ubunutu.. beside the kde desktop
[01:19] <Launchpad-Lap> ty
[01:19] <_adaptr> brett: these are the input files for the autoconf/automake system, which is a very smart way of building software on a wide variety of *nix-0like systems
[01:19] <brett> _adaptr: ok...
[01:19] <binary2k2> Launchpad-Lap: no, no other real difference
[01:20] <_adaptr> brett: there is also a file called .configure, which is the master configuration file/shell script
[01:20] <shulman> bomber: so you only get the options for the lower resolutions? Could you put your xorg.conf file up on pastebin?
[01:20] <_adaptr> brett: you have to *run* this, it will create all the makefiles and sundry auxilliary stuff
[01:20] <ryanakca> how do I set kmenu to only show KDE/Qt apps?
[01:20] <_adaptr> brett: make sure you are in the directory, then run "./configure"
[01:20] <brett> _adaptr: ok run what?
[01:20] <brett> _adaptr: i did...that ran fine
[01:20] <Launchpad-Lap> ok now.. do yall recomend any books to read to learn kubuntu?  I took a linux class on fedora in college.. but i forgot most of it and lost my book.. trying to relearn
[01:20] <intelikey> _adaptr i thought he said ./configure  file not found
[01:20] <_adaptr> brett: then you should have a Makefile
[01:21] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, let me get you a link
[01:21] <brett> _adaptr: or actually there was an error
[01:21] <Launchpad-Lap> ty
[01:21] <brett> _adaptr: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[01:21] <Cuddles_Laptop> folks, is there any way to have my wireless automatically connect on startup, rather than waiting for me to use the wireless assistant?
[01:21] <_adaptr> brett: get your distro's X sources :)
[01:21] <brett> _adaptr: huh
[01:21] <Launchpad-Lap> hehe sorry for all these questions.. trying to reframe my self in linux from windwos
[01:21] <Sanne> Launchpad-Lap: there's a fine desktop guide in your menu under help, and there are also lots of web ressources.
[01:22] <_adaptr> or rather, the includes for the libraries, this should be much smaller
[01:22] <intelikey> !dev
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <Launchpad-Lap> sanne im printting the help as we speak
[01:22] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, http://www.phptr.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0132435942&rl=1
[01:22] <intelikey> !headers
[01:22] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[01:22] <Sanne> Launchpad-Lap: :)
[01:22] <_adaptr> !sources
[01:22] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:22] <Launchpad-Lap> ty admiral
[01:22] <Admiral_Chicago> its also available online
[01:22] <bomber> shulman: yes .. lemme try this 1 more time then i'll brb and i'll paste it to pastebin
[01:22] <Launchpad-Lap> that book?
[01:22] <bomber> thanks for the help btw
[01:22] <bomber> brb
[01:22] <Sanne> Launchpad-Lap: since you're new, you might be also interested in this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[01:23] <intelikey> !rutebook
[01:23] <Cuddles_Laptop> anyone?
[01:23] <ubotu> rutebook: Linux: Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition, an online book. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0-1 (edgy), package size 5468 kB, installed size 8264 kB
[01:23] <brett> _adaptr: how do i do that?
[01:23] <_adaptr> brett: well, you could do it with Synaptic
[01:24] <_adaptr> that's certainly the easiest way if you';ve never seen sources before
[01:24] <intelikey> !wifi | Cuddles_Laptop
[01:24] <ubotu> Cuddles_Laptop: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:24] <brett> _adaptr: ok i need to install Synaptic?
[01:24] <Launchpad-Lap> ok now i have a problem which i do not know how to fix on kubuntu
[01:24] <Cuddles_Laptop> thanks intelikey
[01:24] <_adaptr> brett: no, you already have synaptic - it is ubuntu's package management system
[01:24] <Simian__> I don't understand why I can't see the site that i'm hosting from my own network but I can see it from outside my network
[01:24] <bomber> shulman: ok all set now thanks... i forgot to change the driver from "nv" to "nvidia" after i edited the xorg.conf
[01:25] <Launchpad-Lap> when i goto adept, i type in my password, and get "Conversation with SU failed"
[01:25] <Launchpad-Lap> what does that mean
[01:25] <brett> _adaptr: ok so i run that and do what exactly... i do not really understad what it is i need to do
[01:25] <shulman> bomber: glad you got it working!
[01:25] <_adaptr> brett: the configure script has informed you that you are missing the interface headers for X, which any X-based game will need to compile
[01:25] <intelikey> brett if jucato comes in shortly you should get with him about this  he can walk you through several shortcuts/tricks/and tweeks
[01:26] <_adaptr> brett: so you need to pay good attention to the exact message from configure, and try to find a package that provides the system with those files
[01:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, it means you're SU (super user [not root]  ) failed
[01:26] <_adaptr> brett: the easiest way would be to add the relevant sources to the package system and search for the package you need
[01:26] <Simian__> I want to associate the website that i host with my localhost or internal Ip
[01:27] <Launchpad-Lap> how would i fix that
[01:27] <brett> _adaptr: ok... thanks
[01:27] <brett> intelikey: thanks i will look for him
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure really
[01:27] <bomber> nothing fancy just a geforce 6600 gt which is a nice upgrade from my ati card.. 9800 le
[01:27] <shulman> how do I share a folder in edgy eft? When I try sharing the folder publicly, my windows machines keep getting prompted to log into the share
[01:27] <_adaptr> Simian__: if it is hosted on your local machine then it is already associated with localhost
[01:27] <bomber> 69$ at best buy
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:27] <Launchpad-Lap> hmm after i finish printing i will reinstall
[01:27] <Launchpad-Lap> err restart
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe that site will help
[01:27] <intelikey> "(super user [not root]  )"   Admiral_Chicago   what you smoking ?
[01:27] <Launchpad-Lap> ty
[01:27] <DralaFi> Anyone here run kubuntu without an initrd?
[01:28] <Simian__> _adaptr: but when I type in my site address i am pointed to my router setup
[01:28] <_adaptr> Simian__: your "site address" ?
[01:28] <_adaptr> what is that ?
[01:29] <steveire> I'm having trouble using the kpdf kpart. Any experience on that here?
[01:30] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, only a little Opium...not really
[01:30] <DralaFi> steveire, try in #kde as well
[01:30] <Simian__> _adaptr: ok if i enter the website into a browser on a local machine it points to my router but if i enter my website address into a browser on an external machine (not on my network) it works fine
[01:30] <_adaptr> Simian__: define "my website"
[01:31] <Simian__> _adaptr: web server
[01:31] <_adaptr> Simian__: do you mean an IP address or a URL ?
[01:31] <Simian__> _adaptr: yes URL
[01:32] <_adaptr> Simian__: a public URL, for a publicly-available web site ?
[01:32] <Simian__> _adaptr: yes
[01:33] <|nightrid3r|> Simian__: whats the url
[01:33] <_adaptr> Simian__: what happens when you resolve that web site ?
[01:34] <ticless> _adaptr: well I was still not permittet to delete the libpam.so.0 file
[01:35] <Simian__> _adaptr: on a local machine it just points to my router's setup page, but if you or anyone else (external) enter the url into a browser it works fine
[01:35] <Simian__> benward.dyndns.org
[01:35] <_adaptr> ticless: more evidence that it is a real file system
[01:35] <ticless> but after mounting my root partition, the libpam.so.0 was only 34kb or so, only the libpam_misc.so.0 was still 4gb
[01:36] <ticless> _adaptr: ohh does not sound nice to me :)
[01:36] <Launchpad-Lap> is there anyway i can share my printer on kubuntu and have it showing in windows xp on my laptop?
[01:37] <_adaptr> ticless: those device numbers still look weird though... can you try to peek into it ?
[01:37] <_adaptr> ticless: okay, then you need to do all of them
[01:38] <ticless> _adaptr: what device numbers?
[01:38] <_adaptr> ticless: same trick with all files that seem absurdly large
[01:38] <_adaptr> ticless: never mind, geek stuff :)
[01:38] <ticless> _adaptr: cause I really don't know what that 4gb is pointing at
[01:38] <_adaptr> ticless: look for anything that's more tan a few megs, and do the same rm && ln -s trick with them
[01:39] <_adaptr> ticless: could be a pile of memory, real or vitrual, or a 4gB file, or an actual partition.. no way to know which if it's buggered
[01:39] <ticless> _adaptr: well yes I looked through the list of libs and all others beside libpam.so0 and libpam_misc.so.0 looked fine in size and everything
[01:40] <_adaptr> okay, then do that one and you should be good
[01:40] <ticless> _adaptr: well I know for sure that I dont have a partition with the size 4gb
[01:40] <intelikey> ticless did you    lsattr /lib/libpam.so.0  ?
[01:41] <ticless> intelikey: argh no I forgot
[01:41] <LocoMan> can anyone help me?... my taskbar dissapeared...
[01:41] <K`zan> Hi folks, I'm trying to figure out which headers I want to install the nvidia drivers, from uname -a I get this: Linux witch2u 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 15:34:39 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux, which headers do I need (This is an amd64 CPU here).  TIA
[01:41] <ticless> but I tried all rm -f and chattr
[01:41] <intelikey> ticless lsattr  and  chattr   man them and use them.
[01:42] <ticless> intelikey: okay will try, do you think they can do the trick?
[01:42] <K`zan> heasers -2.6.17-10 generic or amd64-generic ?
[01:42] <SlimG> in what file is the kernel modules listed that should start on boot?
[01:42] <ticless> I really what to get rid of that device...
[01:42] <_nightrid3r_> K`zan: the headers that match your kernel
[01:42] <intelikey> if that's not the reason you couldn't rm it.  then you should be getting disk I/O errors galore.
[01:42] <K`zan> _nightrid3r_: so just ignore the amd64 stuff?
[01:43] <_nightrid3r_> K`zan: yup
[01:43] <K`zan> _nightrid3r_: and go with the match from uname -a ?
[01:43] <K`zan> _nightrid3r_: Thanks!
[01:43] <mike_> Is there a remote desktop application ti Kubuntu that works with rdp and VNC. Krdc does not work
[01:43] <ticless> when I tried the chattr I got the error msg saying it could not read beyond device..
[01:43] <intelikey> !vnc
[01:43] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[01:44] <ticless> _adaptr: any more sugestions before I boot again?
[01:44] <_adaptr> ticless: I don't know - have you deleted the 4gb monsters yet ?
[01:44] <ticless> _adaptr: no cause it keeps saying Im not permittet
[01:45] <mike_> remote windows does not use VNC
[01:45] <_adaptr> ticless: and you are still booted from a rescue CD ?
[01:45] <intelikey> ticless lsattr it now.
[01:45] <_adaptr> indeed
[01:45] <ticless> _adaptr: yes
[01:45] <sorush20> digikam crashes all the time when I'm organising rotating my image
[01:45] <_adaptr> mike_: is that a question ?
[01:45] <ticless> intelikey: okay I will try the lsattr
[01:45] <ticless> later
[01:46] <mike_> _adaptr: Do you know how to connect to a windows desktop? In Ubuntu you just type the adress
[01:46] <_adaptr> mike_: RDP and VNC are two vastly different protocols - they make no sense when used in combination
[01:46] <_adaptr> mike_: connect from where ? with what ?
[01:47] <mike_> _adaptr: Connect to a RDP windows remote desktop, win 2k3 server. Using Kubuntu
[01:47] <LocoMan> can anyone help me get my taskbar back?... it dissapeared for some reason...
[01:47] <mike_> _adaptr: In Ubuntu it works just fine
[01:47] <mike_> _adaptr: Cant connect with the default Kubuntu client
[01:47] <intelikey> LocoMan [alt] +[f2]    kicker
[01:48] <_adaptr> mike_: use rdesktop, it works fine
[01:48] <LocoMan> doesn't do anything
[01:49] <binary2k2> LocoMan: try alt-F2, type in "killall kicker && kicker" then click run
[01:50] <LocoMan> nothing.... 8^(
[01:50] <intelikey> LocoMan or alt+f2   doesnt do anything    try    [ctrl] +[alt] +[f2]    login;   kicker --display :0     [alt] +[f7]
[01:51] <mildner> ggood evening
[01:51] <mike_> _adaptr: Installed it though Adept, Just one stupid Q, where did the program go? Newly installed programs do net get added to the menybar?
[01:52] <LocoMan> it says "Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169 - Major opcode: 147 - Minor opcode: 3 - Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device
[01:52] <_adaptr> mike_: rdesktop is not a GUI program; man rdesktop
[01:52] <LocoMan> it says that twice whe I try that...
[01:52] <_adaptr> If memory serves, it's something like "rdesktop -h windows.whatever"
[01:52] <LocoMan> wait.. I tried it again and it's back.. 8^)
[01:53] <LocoMan> thanks.. 8^)
[01:53] <binary2k2> LocoMan: That's a normal error, nothing to do with kicker
[01:53] <intelikey> LocoMan np
[01:53] <mike_> _adaptr: Aaa ok, thx man
[01:54] <mike_> _adaptr: Works lovely! Want a kiss? :)
[01:55] <intelikey> binary2k2 "normal error"   hehhe yeah wacom.
[01:55] <_adaptr> noooooooo
[01:55] <_adaptr> anyhoo, that's what most of those GUI implementations are based on
[01:55] <_adaptr> they just wrap a box around rdesktop
[01:55] <mike_> I see
[01:56] <intelikey> why does *buntu setup wacom devices in the default xorg.conf   even when no device exists   that's sloppy admining imo.
[01:56] <DralaFi> I bypassed the initrd, now I don't get the media actions window when I insert a USB storage device. I had a look at the initrd and don't think I missed anything, I copied bits of udev script to real script on the real rootfs. Udev, dbus and hal all work. I just can't get KDE to detect a new media device. Can anyone please lend a hand?
[01:58] <RadiantFire> intelikey: probably because there is no good hotplug way of doing it
[01:59] <intelikey> DralaFi boot with the initramfs.img  dmesg > list1   boot without it and  dmesg > file2     compare  file1 file2
[02:00] <intelikey> RadiantFire but couldn't the setup just ask a simple Q on that ?
[02:00] <RadiantFire> yeah, but then you have to ship with multiple versions of xorg.conf. Trust me, its not as easy as it seems
[02:00] <intelikey> last time i checked most people knew if they had a wacom device or not...
[02:00] <DralaFi> intelikey, I doubt there will be any relevant difference, and it's a different kernel, so diff will probably be very large :)
[02:01] <DralaFi> kde isn't even showing new devices in media:/
[02:01] <intelikey> DralaFi ok
[02:02] <intelikey> so your kernel may not support something that is needed
[02:02] <DralaFi> been working on this for hours, not sure what more to do :o
[02:02] <RadiantFire> DralaFi: do you get anything otu of lshal?
[02:02] <RadiantFire> or have you tried manually starting hal/dbus
[02:02] <DralaFi> intelikey, possible, though unlikely. I'll recheck my config.
[02:02] <intelikey> you didn't like my advice.....
[02:03] <intelikey> i'd check the two dmesg outputs to see what is different...
[02:03] <RadiantFire> DralaFi: go to system settings->advanced->service manager and check the kded media manager
[02:03] <DralaFi> RadiantFire, yes I get output from lshal. plug device in && lshal | grep Lexar  = output. unplug device && lshal | grep Lexar  = no output. so that's all working. Also tried starting manually hal, dbus, udev. those bits work.
[02:03] <RadiantFire> see if its running/if you can start it
[02:03] <ticless> _adaptr: well everytime I try to lsattr or chattr -i /lib/libpam.so.0 I get the error: no such device while reading flags on file
[02:03] <intelikey> RadiantFire to catch you up he said it works with the factory kernel
[02:04] <RadiantFire> DralaFi: yeah, chck the service manager in system settings
[02:04] <ticless> _adaptr: and attempt to access beyond end of device
[02:04] <ticless> _adaptr: no matter what I try Im not permittet to remove that dam thing
[02:04] <DralaFi> intelikey, no I didn't like your advice ;) but that's ok. I know you're trying to help and you do have some merit in that it's possible that a newer kernel is misconfigured. :)
[02:05] <DralaFi> intelikey, exactly :)
[02:06] <intelikey> it's not only  possible  it's likely...
[02:06] <DralaFi> I don't have service manager. System services and storage media, yes.
[02:06] <DralaFi> intelikey, noinitrd in grub disables initrd, yes?
[02:08] <intelikey> DralaFi not listing an initrd on the kernel disables it   i don't know about a global in grub.... i don't use grub it's too weak for this setup
[02:08] <DralaFi> lilo?
[02:08] <intelikey> yeah
[02:09] <intelikey> partitionless
[02:09] <DralaFi> lilo is cool :)
[02:09] <DralaFi> kernel panic, VFS can't find rootfs, which is to be expected
[02:10] <intelikey> yeah the factory kernels have no disk or fs support built in
[02:10] <DralaFi> which is one reason i don;t like initrd
[02:11] <DralaFi> all my setups are simple and don't need anything special.
[02:12] <intelikey> i have a stand-alone kernel or two that i've compiled for this box    can boot from a floppy if needed.   can't do that with a default kernel.
[02:12] <DralaFi> I run slackware on this box :)
[02:13] <Launchpad-Lap> what is "slackware"
[02:13] <Launchpad-Lap> ?
[02:13] <intelikey> why you in #kubunt ?   just like the company ?
[02:13] <Launchpad-Lap> sorry im just getting into linux
[02:13] <DralaFi> ok, anything else you want me to get from the factory kernel?
[02:13] <intelikey> Launchpad-Lap another distro
[02:13] <bubu1uk> Launchpad-Lap: dont worry, lol
[02:13] <Launchpad-Lap> ooo
[02:13] <DralaFi> intelikey, because this is a kubuntu issue
[02:14] <intelikey> on another box ?
[02:14] <DralaFi> laptop
[02:14] <DralaFi> desktop is slack
[02:14] <intelikey> k      "that seemed to be one of those least possable information puzzels"
[02:14] <Launchpad-Lap> i would run linux on my laptop but itunes no workie with it
[02:15] <intelikey> !itunes
[02:15] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[02:15] <DralaFi> I've been asking questions in here, #ubuntu, #hal, #kde and #dbus, with varying success :|
[02:15] <Launchpad-Lap> its not the player
[02:15] <Launchpad-Lap> i have songs that i bought off the itunes store
[02:15] <Launchpad-Lap> which require itunes to play
[02:15] <intelikey> 10-4 on varying success
[02:15] <DralaFi> ahh, iTunes vendor lock-in
[02:16] <Launchpad-Lap> yeah
[02:16] <Launchpad-Lap> back to tb
[02:16] <intelikey> so you'll be making that same mistake in the future ?
[02:17] <DralaFi> intelikey, you know, diff -u on the two dmesg's won't be the prettyiest output
[02:17] <intelikey> "always buy propritary, so you can pay through the nose; TWICE!"
[02:17] <mike_> Anyone wanna help me get some sound?
[02:17] <K`zan> Just installed the nvidia drivers here and it wants "X.org SDK/Development" stuff, search doesn't return anything on that, anyone have an idea what that might be?  TIA.
[02:18] <intelikey> DralaFi i'd prolly open both in a editor
[02:18] <intelikey> !sound | mike_
[02:18] <ubotu> mike_: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:18] <Sanne> DralaFi: xxdiff is nice
[02:18] <DralaFi> intelikey, but it will be a mess given that the kenrels are quite different
[02:18] <mike_> intelikey: Thx
[02:19] <intelikey> DralaFi yeah if they are "very" different it will.
[02:19] <DralaFi> heh, why doesn't kubuntu come with all the -devel stuff automatically, like slackware? :p
[02:19] <intelikey> like "print gobs of debugging stuff"   hehhe
[02:20] <DralaFi> intelikey, yeah i also seem to have printk() timing info in every single dmesg line :D fun fun
[02:20] <intelikey> DralaFi it designed for the linux newbe  the M$ user that wants a taste of linux for the first time.
[02:20] <DralaFi> true
[02:21] <intelikey> yeah maybe pipe through cut and remove that.
[02:21] <DralaFi> but make it into a package that is required and don't tell users what it is...
[02:21] <intelikey>  | cut -d' ' -f3       maybe
[02:21] <intelikey> errr    | cut -d' ' -f3-
[02:22] <DralaFi> I suck at cut
[02:23] <intelikey> cut -d'delimiting.char' -f'field/s.to.print'    -f'-3' prints upto 4th delimitor   -f'3-' prints from third onward
[02:24] <intelikey> -f'2-4'  should be selfexplaniroty
[02:24] <K`zan> Just installed the nvidia drivers here and it wants "X.org SDK/Development" stuff, search doesn't return anything on that, anyone have an idea what that might be?  TIA.sync
[02:24] <DralaFi> hmm, ok let me try something
[02:25] <sorush20> my computer freezes on running batch conversion with kim plugin and on thumbnail generation of a new folder with images., what can I do?
[02:25] <intelikey> break.  food.    back soon.
[02:25] <marcel__> hello there
[02:26] <sorush20> hi
[02:26] <marcel__> i'm looking software to watch svf file on my kde... downloaded files flash... can anybody help me/?
[02:26] <ticless> _adaptr: hephey now I'm back for good :)
[02:26] <Sanne> K`zan: why don't you just install the nvidia drivers from ubuntu repositories?
[02:27] <ticless> intelikey: thanks for the help
[02:27] <ticless> intelikey: it turned out that after a long series of manually running e2fsck the wierd blocks could be cleared
[02:28] <sorush20> you can just use konqueror to run flash marcel__
[02:28] <marcel__> there is something like FLVPlayer for Kubuntu?
[02:28] <DralaFi> marcel__, MPlayer
[02:28] <noiesmo> marcel__, I use mplayer for flv files
[02:28] <ticless> _adaptr: thx I now good to go...cya
[02:28] <marcel__> my MPlayer doesn't play downloaded flash files:/
[02:29] <sorush20> how do I trouble shoot why my computer freezes on trying to build a thumbnail etc?
[02:29] <naught101> anyone ever have problems with their web browser loking up when loading sites? happens to me with firefox and Konqueror, and doesn't happen on other computers on same router
[02:29] <naught101> ^locking
[02:29] <sorush20> can I run memtest on a booted computer?
[02:30] <DralaFi> i'll carry on with the diagnosis tomorrow
[02:30] <DralaFi> off to sleep
[02:31] <DralaFi> nite nite and thanks, intelikey
[02:31] <marcel__> MPlayer play only sound without video:/ flv files...
[02:31] <naught101> marcel: you can transcode flvs to mpeg with ffmpeg
[02:32] <mike_> Hmm... i don't think i have a hardware problem with sound. I just need to select the right Card, how do i do that?
[02:32] <sorush20> !mdadm
[02:32] <ubotu> mdadm: tool to administer Linux MD device arrays (software RAID). In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.1-6ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 148 kB, installed size 452 kB
[02:32] <marcel__> :) yeah ,, i'm looking some player for files like on other system, what is the plasaure first convert then watch??
[02:33] <sorush20> I have 106 processes running and a lot of memory....
[02:33] <mike_> I have two cards how do select witch the system should use?
[02:33] <mike_> 2 sound cards
[02:34] <sorush20> I really don't know why my computer keeps crashing and freezing on batch resize and thumbnail generation..
[02:34] <sorush20> how do I fix this problem?
[02:37] <sorush20>  how can I makesure why my computer keeps crashing?
[02:37] <sorush20> and find what is making it crash...
[02:42] <K`zan> sanne: I was running the xorg nvidia drivers, left a lot to be desired for the things I do :-).
[02:43] <K`zan> sanne: with what I got out of the real nvidia drivers, my destop is no longer pixelated.
[02:45] <K`zan> Wonder why all my konsoles are root now, no matter who launches them ?!?
[02:50] <K`zan> Anyone else here getting a root console when launched as a regular user?
[02:51] <unix_infidel> K`zan: nope.
[02:51] <unix_infidel> are you prefixing $TERM with sudo?
[02:51] <mike_> How do i set the defaul sound card? I have 2 sound cards.
[02:52] <K`zan> unix_infidel: Interesting I am getting that on gentoo and ubuntu, just all of a sudden I can't get a user konsole.  Gentoo I might have done something to, but I haven't touched ubuntu for several weeks now.  Odd.
[02:52] <Launchpad-Lap> can you make kubuntu a file/print/domain server?
[02:53] <BluesKaj> Ok, I'm running the live Edgy CD since i chose the wrong login desktop by mistake ...obviously one that doesn't exist ...how do i tell the HDD version to login to KDE ?
[02:53] <unix_infidel> K`zan: your launching Konsole from KDE kicker?
[02:53] <mike_> !sound
[02:53] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:53] <K`zan> unix_infidel: Anywhere - menu or kicker
[02:54] <unix_infidel> K`zan: try right clicking>run>aterm
[02:54] <unix_infidel> or xterm whatever.
[02:54] <K`zan> unix_infidel: no aterm, but xterm spawns as a user terminal, I can use that!
[02:55] <unix_infidel> K`zan: might wanna make sure you arent launching KDE as root.
[02:55] <unix_infidel> eg not doing sudo startx or something...that's a terrible thing to do.
[02:56] <K`zan> unix_infidel: kde lauched from /etc/conf.d/local.start on gentoo (something broken there) but from /etc/init.d on ubuntu (how it comes out of the box).
[02:56] <unix_infidel> /etc/init.d...hmm?
[02:56] <unix_infidel> maybe i'm not familiar with the new edgy init system.
[02:56] <K`zan> unix_infidel: working at phasing out gentoo and going with ubuntu (even though I don't like the name :-).
[02:57] <K`zan> /etc/init.d/kdm start (no idea how it is done in ubuntu automatically).
[02:57] <unix_infidel> ahh, you're using KDM, no idea there.
[02:58] <unix_infidel> I basically just boot from console and use X to pretty much spawn $TERMS and firefox.
[02:58] <K`zan> unix_infidel: No problem, thanks though.  Never a dull moment with all this :-)!
[02:59] <unix_infidel> K`zan: that's the idea of an OS.  It's supposed to be dull.  Aka do what you want when you want it.
[02:59] <mike_> Hmm how do i change so i can use sound card 2 insteed of 1!
[02:59] <BluesKaj> unix_infidel: looks like I have a similar problem , altho i can't get to my login page after 'startx'
[02:59] <K`zan> unix_infidel: It does that once I get it all tuned up the way I want it.  Unlike wincrap where I get to practice the install routine rather endlessly.
[03:00] <unix_infidel> K`zan: that's unforunate, I know many people who use windows without many if any problems.
[03:00] <mike_> aplay --list-devices, /proc/asound/cards, lspci -v  i my other sound card! How do i make it default?
[03:00] <K`zan> unix_infidel: I drive anything hard, wincrap works best when used least I have discovered.
[03:00] <unix_infidel> BluesKaj: login page?
[03:01] <unix_infidel> K`zan: Like i said, that's unfortunate.
[03:01] <BluesKaj> unix_infidel: yes I made a wrong choice upon login and now i can't get there
[03:01] <unix_infidel> BluesKaj: you mean KDM or console login?
[03:01] <K`zan> unix_infidel: Normally I end up doing a wipe-reinstall every 6 months with wincrap, it is ok for web browsing, email and some office apps, but when you start really hitting it hard, it collapses.
[03:01] <BluesKaj> I was rebooting to kde
[03:02] <unix_infidel> K`zan: give me a for instance?
[03:02] <unix_infidel> BluesKaj: what prompt are you at right now?
[03:02] <K`zan> unix_infidel: Heavy graphics, video editing/compiling, serious CAD/CAM stuff.
[03:03] <K`zan> unix_infidel: even flight sim stuff will toast it over time.
[03:03] <BluesKaj> unix_infidel:  I'm running the live cd ...startx won't log me in
[03:03] <unix_infidel> K`zan: I do most GPU intensive stuff with OS X.  As far as CAD goes, I don't do it really.
[03:03] <BluesKaj> i guess i could use irssi at the prompt
[03:03] <K`zan> unix_infidel: I'm not a real fan of apple, but for graphics and video it does hold up FAR better.
[03:05] <BluesKaj> can some one help me or are you gonna discuss the meryits of various pcs ?
[03:05] <marvelous> hola
[03:05] <unix_infidel> BluesKaj: if you want back into kde with startx
[03:05] <marvelous> hay alguien por aqui que me pueda ayudar?
[03:05] <K`zan> Discuss merits of various things :-).
[03:05] <unix_infidel> touch ~/.xinitrc and put `startkde` in there.
[03:06] <unix_infidel> minus the quotes
[03:06] <BluesKaj> it ain't funny K`zan, I'm really stuck here
[03:06] <unix_infidel> erm, exec startkde
[03:06] <K`zan> BluesKaj: I'm new (again to deb/ubuntu) so I am learning it again at this point...
[03:07] <BluesKaj> ok but startx goes to a black screen with just a mouse pointer
[03:07] <K`zan> BluesKaj: You sure you got the right xorg driver?  What video card and what is in the device section of xorg.conf?
[03:08] <K`zan> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:08] <BluesKaj> ok, gonna try to boot into the hdd
[03:08] <unix_infidel> BluesKaj: erf...you're on a live cd and cant get into X?
[03:08] <unix_infidel> wtf, i sure hope he wasn't chrooted.
[03:08] <K`zan> unix_infidel: I think he was, that was rather odd.  Gateway system ;-) LOL!
[03:09] <unix_infidel> K`zan: nah, i meant i hope wasnt trying to backup/restore while chrooted and trying to init X
[03:10] <marvelous> I cant play mp3's on my amarok can anybody help me?
[03:10] <zibrah3ed> make sure the xine engine is enabled
[03:12] <mike_> Coman, how do i change sound card!!! Please someone. I've tryed guides, but i can see both my soundcards and there installed
[03:13] <marvelous> where can I see the xine engine thing?
[03:13] <Werdnum> hey
[03:13] <zibrah3ed> settings --> configure amarok --> engine
[03:13] <mike_> How do i change soundcard?
[03:13] <zibrah3ed> if you don't have it use adept or apt-get
[03:14] <Admiral_Chicago> !repeat | mike_
[03:14] <ubotu> mike_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:14] <zibrah3ed> mike do you have 2 cards installed now?
[03:14] <mike_> Yes
[03:15] <zibrah3ed> onboard and a pci or both pci
[03:15] <josh_> how do i get bearshare to run in wine
[03:15] <mike_> Yes, and i can see them everywhere
[03:15] <josh_> i havent restarted the computer but when i click it nothing hapens
[03:15] <josh_> should i restart my computer?
[03:15] <mike_> I just dont know how to make soundcard 2 default
[03:15] <Admiral_Chicago> josh_, not neccesary
[03:15] <Admiral_Chicago> you're on linux
[03:16] <Admiral_Chicago> josh_, any reason to run bearshare?
[03:16] <josh_> limewire and amsn doesnt work
[03:16] <josh_> i mean
[03:16] <josh_> amule
[03:16] <zibrah3ed> mike in kmenu  system settings --> sound system --> set default
[03:17] <pierreth> hello, how do I change the shorcut to select the next tab?
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> josh_, have you tried frostwire?
[03:18] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, in Konqueror?
[03:18] <josh_> ya
[03:18] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: no, everywhere
[03:18] <josh_> frostwire wont connect
[03:18] <josh_> everyone has that problem
[03:18] <josh_> i like bearshare anyways
[03:19] <Admiral_Chicago> !p2p
[03:19] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[03:19] <Admiral_Chicago> josh_, you can do cd to the directory it's installed in wine Path.exe
[03:19] <josh_> oh
[03:19] <josh_> it made a shortcut on my desktop
[03:20] <mike_> zibrah3ed: I can't set default sound card there, just ALSA/OSS and MIDI
[03:20] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i don't use wine but I've read the documentation
[03:20] <Admiral_Chicago> !wine | josh_
[03:20] <ubotu> josh_: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:20] <Admiral_Chicago> have you seen it
[03:21] <josh_> oh
[03:22] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: you have no idea?
[03:22] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, yes give me a sec
[03:22] <Admiral_Chicago>  "input actions" in Kcontrol
[03:23] <marvelous> i've checked my xine engine and it's enabled but still cant reproduce mp3's
[03:23] <zibrah3ed> hmmm
[03:23] <josh_> well
[03:23] <josh_> insead of cding the exe
[03:23] <zibrah3ed> have you restarted amarok
[03:23] <josh_> i just ran it from the link
[03:23] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, try that, i think it's global shortcuts
[03:24] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: I am there but I don't see, where exactly?
[03:24] <marvelous> yes now I have
[03:24] <marvelous> and still no change
[03:24] <Admiral_Chicago> i wish i was on KDE to guide you
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, i'm sorry but I won't be on my box until tomorrow afternoon at best
[03:25] <zibrah3ed> well when i last installed edgy it was a pain for me too
[03:26] <zibrah3ed> it seemd that i had to restart amarok then finally mp3's worked
[03:26] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: OK, I will search, thank you
[03:26] <Admiral_Chicago> np
[03:26] <marvelous> well I'll try again
[03:26] <Launchpad-Lap> grr must learn how to get fuse on and ntfs-3g
[03:26] <marvelous> thanks 4 all
[03:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, you are aware that those programs are expriemental
[03:27] <Launchpad-Lap> yeah
[03:27] <zibrah3ed> I didn't fix your problem nothing to thank me for
[03:27] <Launchpad-Lap> is edgy another distro?
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, no but another release
[03:28] <zibrah3ed> lol edgy eft kubuntu 6.10
[03:28] <Launchpad-Lap> ooo
[03:28] <Launchpad-Lap> how can i find the release im runing?
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> !release | Launchpad-Lap
[03:28] <ubotu> Launchpad-Lap: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, where did you get a CD?
[03:28] <Launchpad-Lap> shipit
[03:29] <Launchpad-Lap> i have 6.06 LTS
[03:29] <Launchpad-Lap> dapper dan?
[03:29] <zibrah3ed> dapper drake
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, yes
[03:29] <Launchpad-Lap> is there anyway to get 6.10 onto 6.06?
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, yes
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> !update | Launchpad-Lap
[03:29] <ubotu> Launchpad-Lap: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:30] <Launchpad-Lap> ty
[03:30] <zibrah3ed> do a fresh install don't apt-get
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> i disagree
[03:30] <zibrah3ed> i had nothing but probs
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> i've not had any problems updating at all
[03:30] <josh_> bearshare said i need wmp10 to use bearshare
[03:31] <josh_> then it brought me to the internet explorer page
[03:31] <josh_> lol
[03:31] <zibrah3ed> well adm it works for some but not all
[03:31] <zibrah3ed> fresh install always works
[03:32] <Admiral_Chicago> i've updated several computers, the only ones that had broken updates where boxes that used automatix/backport/easyubuntu
[03:32] <zibrah3ed> lol well i'm guilty
[03:35] <calcmandan> I have a USB2 flash drive, and all my USB ports are usb2.  However, transfer rates are about 1mbps.  Anyone know how I can tweak the system to utilize usb2.0 speeds?
[03:37] <nickv111> Hey, all. I have libdvdread3 installed, but kaffeine still says, "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable."
[03:38] <nickv111> mplayer dvd:// says, "dvd successfully opened", but then just sits there, attempting to read my DVD.
[03:38] <zibrah3ed> libdvdnav
[03:38] <zibrah3ed> ?
[03:38] <nickv111> Maybe.
[03:38] <nickv111> I'm installing it now.
[03:39] <nickv111> No. Didn't do anything.
[03:39] <nickv111> Um, it's interesting that it would say that encrypted DVD support is unavailable when I have libdvdread3 installed
[03:40] <zibrah3ed> i'm stumped
[03:40] <Launchpad-Lap> crap
[03:41] <BluesKaj> I'm using the live cd to chat cuz i can't get to the boot prompt or the kde desktop login page ... my edgy partition shows up fine in QParted si I'm pretty sure I can eventually access the OS . I just need some help getting there from here (live CD)
[03:44] <tony_> i made a service menu, can someone help me since i can't get it to come up just on one file type?
[03:45] <tony_> anyone know anything about service menus?
[03:46] <intelikey> my dpkg is hosed again !
[03:46] <mike_> Solved my problem setting default soundcard. All guides i followed are all related to hardware problems. Looks like you can't chose sound card in KDE via GUI
[03:46] <intelikey> dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `postfix' in statoverride file <--- why does dpkg depend on postfix in the passwd file ?
[03:47] <intelikey> mike_ it would be an alsa setting
[03:48] <mike_> intelikey: Problem 2 sounds card installed. But you can't select witch one to use.
[03:48] <mike_> sudo asoundconf list
[03:48] <mike_> sudo asoundconf set-default-card <CARD>
[03:48] <mike_> Reboot.
[03:48] <intelikey> mike_ there ya go.
[03:49] <BluesKaj> intelikey: was exiting and i chose the wrong desktop login , now i can't get into the kde login page at all, justa black scrn with the mouse pointer ...using the live cd cuz i can't even get to the boot prompt
[03:49] <mike_> intelikey: Yeah... no GUI in DE to change default...
[03:49] <od-debar> i have kubuntu dapper and windows xp 2 machines
[03:49] <od-debar> i want to setup my network
[03:49] <od-debar> can anyone tell me step by step
[03:49] <od-debar> what do  i need to config and do it
[03:50] <intelikey> BluesKaj sounds like twm   try left click the desktop for a menu
[03:50] <BluesKaj> intelikey: but i can see the edgy partition in QParted ok so i know it must be accessible but how?
[03:51] <zibrah3ed> ctrl + alt + backspace
[03:52] <BluesKaj> intelikey: , you've got to be kidding , that simple ?
[03:52] <BluesKaj> ok , I'll tryit
[03:53] <intelikey> "was exiting and i chose the wrong desktop login"   i'm thinking   if that's what you did.   yeah.   but you are also saying now  "i can't even get to the boot prompt"    which means it might have been hybernate that you eslected ???
[03:53] <zibrah3ed> he logged off
[03:54] <intelikey> does suspend or hibernate either one give a mouse cursor ?
[03:55] <zibrah3ed> dont' think so
[03:55] <intelikey> having only one lappy (i486) i've never messed with either....
[03:56] <zibrah3ed> lol better than the emachine i'm on now
[03:57] <Launchpad-Lap> does anyone here play that atlantic board game?
[03:57] <intelikey> never have yet Launchpad-Lap is it any good ?
[03:57] <Launchpad-Lap> dunno lol
[03:57] <zibrah3ed> once
[03:57] <intelikey> :)
[03:57] <Launchpad-Lap> im updateing to 6.10
[03:58] <intelikey> tisk tisk
[03:58] <intelikey> !upgrade | issues
[03:58] <ubotu> issues: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:59] <intelikey> !|
[03:59] <intelikey> that ought'a make the bot scratch it's head
[03:59] <od-debar> hey how to setup
[03:59] <od-debar> php my admin on kubuntu
[04:00] <intelikey> !php
[04:00] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[04:01] <intelikey> probably not that....
[04:01] <od-debar> can u tell me step by step
[04:01] <od-debar> ?
[04:01] <intelikey> !i
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:01] <intelikey> sssh  bot be quiet.  that's not for you.
[04:01] <intelikey> !botsnack | be good.
[04:01] <ubotu> be good.: Yum!
[04:03] <dr0fnax> !xgl
[04:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:04] <intelikey>  ! i = knot eye
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i = knot eye - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <VanessaE> kick nvidia while you're at it :)
[04:06] <intelikey> i just use the suported nv on my card
[04:06] <intelikey> p
[04:06] <VanessaE> hm
[04:06] <intelikey> no 3d
[04:07] <VanessaE> 3d works fine for me normally...my problem is more of a driver conflict, and it appears to be nvidia's fault.
[04:08] <VanessaE> wait a second here....
[04:08] <VanessaE> something just....hm
[04:08] <VanessaE> brb
[04:08] <intelikey> my problem is an eula conflict    it says do you accept these terms and i say NO!
[04:09] <K`zan> kpatience (card game) is installed, but I get no cards showing, anyone else have this problem?
[04:10] <intelikey> be sure you don't copy that file anywhere you will be in violation of that agreement         ah actually installing it you make multiple copies so that violates the eula...
[04:11] <intelikey> K`zan starting a gui now... lemme look
[04:12] <intelikey> you caught me at a odd time.   normally i'm console only.
[04:12] <K`zan> intelikey: Thanks, unable to find anything, re-installed twice :-) no luck :-(
[04:12] <K`zan> intelikey: it really isn't important, just a time killer while waiting for things, do not put yourself out please!
[04:12] <SHRIKEE> question, every 5 orso minutes a sort off screen saver comes up, black screen bit white X, how do i kill that?
[04:13] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: you need to run the command "xset s off", you may want to add it to your ~/.bashrc
[04:13] <SHRIKEE> :o
[04:13] <SHRIKEE> that kills any X screensavers?
[04:14] <intelikey> K`zan nope my gui is fubar
[04:14] <intelikey> maybe someone else
[04:14] <SHRIKEE> where do i add it in bashrc? does it matter?
[04:15] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: that stops the screensaver with the big X, or if the screen goes blank, but you'll need to make sure to disable screensavers in KDE too
[04:15] <SHRIKEE> yea i have no screensavers, i just checked
[04:15] <SHRIKEE> thats why im asking here :)
[04:15] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: anywhere in there, normaly good idea to add it at the bottom tho
[04:15] <SHRIKEE> okie
[04:16] <VanessaE> there we go, problem solved.
[04:16] <SHRIKEE> lets hope that helps :) and how do i make the back and forward buttons on my mouse go back and forward in konqueror? i already altered the xorg.conf and it works in firefox, but not in konqueror
[04:17] <Launchpad-Lap> updating to 6.10 will install firefox?
[04:17] <K`zan> intelikey: Thanks for your efforts, I think some dependancy is missing (the cards), IIRC that was a separate thing as a dependancy (been a while not totally sure, still looking).
[04:17] <intelikey> VanessaE got kpat installed ?
[04:17] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: not a clue, sorry
[04:17] <VanessaE> Note to self: If the driver still says "beta" on the splash screen, the newer "stable" version is not installed. :-)
[04:17] <VanessaE> intel: yes
[04:17] <binary2k2> Launchpad-Lap: yeah, you'll get firefox 2.0
[04:17] <intelikey> got cards ?
[04:18] <SHRIKEE> binary2k2: not by default
[04:18] <VanessaE> eh?
[04:18] <VanessaE> as in a real deck of?
[04:18] <intelikey> no in kpat
[04:18] <VanessaE> yeah
[04:18] <VanessaE> seems fine here
[04:18] <intelikey> K`zan see VanessaE
[04:18] <od-debar> how to add sql username?
[04:18] <VanessaE> they have a gear/earth logo with "KDE" below, as the card's backside.
[04:18] <binary2k2> Launchpad-Lap: yeah, you'll have to install it from the repos, but it's notmaly the 1st thing people install
[04:19] <VanessaE> there appear to be a large number of card sets installed, too
[04:19] <intelikey> Kewl advertizzz all Kinds of Krap in Kde
[04:19] <K`zan> intelikey: :-) glad he does, I sure don't :-).  Even removing and re-installing doesn't get it - no idea.  Will have to find something else to burn time I guess.  Thanks!
[04:20] <intelikey> check package lists
[04:20] <intelikey> Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.2), libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2), libkdegames1 (>= 4:3.4.2), libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.6), libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.2-4), kdebase-data, kdegames-card-data
[04:20] <BluesKaj> intelikey: nope still got a black scrn with mouse pointer where the kde login page is supposed to come up
[04:21] <intelikey> BluesKaj hmmm you know how to access other tty's ?
[04:21] <BluesKaj> clicking mouse right left and center , but no response
[04:22] <BluesKaj> ok TTY ?
[04:23] <SHRIKEE> does anyone know how to make the back and forward buttons work in konqueror too? instead of only firefox
[04:23] <intelikey> BluesKaj yeah   [ctrl] +[alt] +[f#]         tty7 [f7]    is where the gui normally lives   1-6 are normally login consoles
[04:24] <nickv111> This is odd. For some reason, I installed libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2, and when I do mplayer dvd://, it spits back a ton of "libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c:<line #>" errors
[04:24] <nickv111> And, according to xine, it can't decrypt the CSS on any of my DVDs
[04:26] <dirollordi> hi
[04:26] <dirollordi> can someone help me please ?
[04:26] <joe__> Any know a good tutorial on how I can network my kubutu pc with my windows xp wireless hp laptop through a lynksys router?
[04:26] <Launchpad-Lap> !ati
[04:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:27] <dirollordi> !ati
[04:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:27] <dirollordi> !upgrade
[04:27] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:27] <joe__> Do I have to do something in samba to network pcs?
[04:28] <dirollordi> Why i can't upgrade kubuntu ?
[04:28] <binary2k2> dirollordi: we need more info than that
[04:29] <joe__> Anyone have knowledge on setting up home network?
[04:29] <binary2k2> joe__: what type of network?
[04:30] <joe__> hp xp home laptop wireless with pc kubuntu 6.10 wired to lynksis wireless g router?
[04:31] <joe__> binary2k2,  so I can exchange files between the 2 pc's
[04:31] <binary2k2> joe__: so, just file sharing?
[04:31] <burner> joe__: install samba server on the linux pc and type in "smb://computernameofpc" in the nautilus location "ctrl+L" when nautilus is open
[04:32] <binary2k2> burner: why would he be using nautilus?
[04:32] <intelikey> burner " in the nautilus location "  <--- 'nome eeh ?
[04:32] <burner> er... sorry, in konq do that ;)
[04:33] <joe__> burner not familiar with nautilus and how can I check if samba server is installed
[04:33] <joe__> I'm on kde, not gnome
[04:33] <binary2k2> joe__: that's to get to the windows share, if you want to share files from kubuntu, use Adept to install the samba package, then in System Settings you can setup shares
[04:36] <joe__> binary2k2.  What exactly do I need to get the windows share.  I will go try to install samba package
[04:37] <binary2k2> to ger files off the windows PC, just go to the address smb://Name_Of_Windows_PC/
[04:37] <binary2k2> *get
[04:37] <burner> sudo apt-get install samba
[04:37] <burner> right click on folders in konq and click share folder
[04:38] <joe__> let me try.  pretty sure samba already installed.
[04:41] <lloyd> Using Kubuntu Edgy Eft but can't get scim to work (everything else seems great)
[04:42] <lloyd> I just get a blank menu when I left click on the scim icon in the dock
[04:44] <joe__> binary2k2 I'm getting error "could not connect to host for smb://laptop/".  any ideas anyone?
[04:45] <binary2k2> joe__: try with the IP address
[04:46] <BluesKaj> nope intelikey, no luck , still getting the black scrn , no kde
[04:47] <rafaelkubuntu> How do I install a program?
[04:48] <binary2k2> rafaelkubuntu: depends what type of program, normaly you'd use Adept
[04:48] <rafaelkubuntu> Yeah, I want to install firefox 2.0
[04:48] <binary2k2> rafaelkubuntu: are you running Dapper ir Edgy?
[04:48] <rafaelkubuntu> Yes
[04:49] <nickv111> !ogm
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ogm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <binary2k2> rafaelkubuntu: which one?
[04:49] <BluesKaj> !login
[04:49] <ubotu> login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.16-2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 306 kB, installed size 2776 kB
[04:49] <nickv111> Hmm. How do you convert things to OGM? I don't think mencoder can do it
[04:49] <intelikey> !ff
[04:49] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:50] <binary2k2> rafaelkubuntu: if you'r on dapper (6.06 or 6.06.1) than look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:50] <binary2k2> rafaelkubuntu: if you'r on edgy, just use adept to install firefox
[04:50] <rafaelkubuntu> I'm running dapper
[04:51] <BluesKaj> Lost my kde login screen ...have to use the live cd ...my hda3 wont boot into kde ! :(
[04:51] <joe__> binary2k2, how do I ping in kubuntu to get the IP address.  I think I remember how to do in xp but if you know that would be great too.
[04:51] <intelikey> wont boot is improper nomen
[04:52] <BluesKaj> yeah intelikey, but you know what i mean
[04:52] <intelikey> so boot the machine an drop to tty1  sudo killall kdm    startx
[04:53] <binary2k2> joe__: if you need the IP address than use the command ifconfig , that will show all the interfaces on the system. But to ping open konsole and type ping (hostname)
[04:53] <rafaelkubuntu> How do I install firefox on kubuntu dapper?
[04:53] <binary2k2> rafaelkubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion will tell you how
[04:53] <BluesKaj> i have no prompt
[04:53] <intelikey> BluesKaj in tty1 ?
[04:53] <BluesKaj> nope
[04:54] <intelikey> tty2 ?
[04:54] <intelikey> :)
[04:54] <BluesKaj> what is tty ?
[04:54] <intelikey> BluesKaj i tried to explain that earlier     it's the console
[04:55] <intelikey> where linux is  not that gui pointy clicky thingy that passes for a desktop env
[04:55] <binary2k2> !tty
[04:55] <ubotu> To get to the tty terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).
[04:55] <BluesKaj> yeah but the console is running in the live cd , I need to get at the Hda3
[04:56] <intelikey> the console will be running there too
[04:56] <intelikey> if it boots you should have 6 login tty's
[04:56] <intelikey> no matter what shape the 7'th is in...
[04:57] <Launchpad-Lap> does kubuntu supports samba?
[04:58] <os2mac> hi all.
[04:58] <Launchpad-Lap> !samba
[04:58] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:58] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, what do you mean "support"
[04:58] <Admiral_Chicago> you can install it and run it on Kubuntu if that's what you mean
[04:58] <Launchpad-Lap> yeah
[04:58] <Admiral_Chicago> then yes it does
[04:59] <intelikey> sends it stay away money every month ?
[04:59] <Launchpad-Lap> now can windows mount linux partions?
[04:59] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, no
[04:59] <Admiral_Chicago> windows is too stupid
[04:59] <Launchpad-Lap> grrr
[04:59] <Launchpad-Lap> lol
[04:59] <intelikey> actually it can
[04:59] <Admiral_Chicago> but there are some programs iirc that may let you
[05:00] <binary2k2> Launchpad-Lap: you have to get a special driver, but it can do it
[05:00] <Launchpad-Lap> I am but a grasshopper, i have much to learn
[05:00] <intelikey> e2fsexplorer
[05:00] <Launchpad-Lap> lol
[05:00] <intelikey> and friends
[05:00] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, is taht pron?
[05:00] <Launchpad-Lap> pr0n?
[05:00] <binary2k2> Launchpad-Lap: take a look at http://www.fs-driver.org/
[05:01] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago in some cases it probably is.  depending on what it does to the fs
[05:02] <Launchpad-Lap> gotta finish updating to edgy
[05:02] <intelikey> Launchpad-Lap bet you have to do a clean install to get all the bugs worked out....
[05:02] <intelikey> wanna bet ?
[05:03] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, i'll bet you three cookies
[05:03] <Launchpad-Lap> i hope not
[05:03] <intelikey> bet ya half of nothing.    but if you win i'll want a chance to go dubble or nothing.
[05:03] <binary2k2> I've done 2 upgrades to edgy, one on my PC and one on a friends (remotely over ssh), both went without a hitch
[05:03] <Launchpad-Lap> i dont have no vlank cds
[05:04] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, done
[05:04] <Admiral_Chicago> binary2k2, i've done a few no problem
[05:05] <intelikey> three out of  xxxx is not good odds tho
[05:05] <binary2k2> i think it's only when people use automatix and easyubuntu when things get messed up
[05:06] <Admiral_Chicago> binary2k2, that's why mine went well
[05:06] <intelikey> may very well be...   but i've seen at least xxxx issues with upgrading pass through this channel
[05:07] <Launchpad-Lap> i decide to make my athlon 3200+ a linux box because of the graphics card over heating.. doesnt do that in linux
[05:07] <intelikey> most desasterous is libc failed to upgrade...
[05:07] <binary2k2> edgy isn't quite as stable as dapper, but then it's not supposed to be. Dapper is long term support, Edgy is for us geeks :p
[05:07] <Launchpad-Lap> damn.. i should of stayed on dap then lol
[05:08] <Launchpad-Lap> oh well.. what betterway to learn then on the fly
[05:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap I would have, but then again i was testing Edgy early
[05:09] <intelikey> or the next two after that.
[05:09] <CofCC> bootup help needed
[05:09] <CofCC> I just successfully installed kubuntu on my system's slave HD
[05:09] <CofCC> XP is on the master
[05:10] <Launchpad-Lap> grr gotta clean the drum on my printer... its got like lines thru it
[05:10] <CofCC> and I'm trying to get bootmagic on XP to find Kubuntu as a boot option
[05:10] <Admiral_Chicago> CofCC, what do you want to do?
[05:10] <binary2k2> I normaly have both stable and development versions of kubuntu installed, on different partitons, so if the development one breaks, i have the stable one to fall back on
[05:10] <BluesKaj> ok intelikey , I'm in irssi in the console ...what's next?
[05:10] <CofCC> get boot magic to have Kubuntu as an option
[05:10] <Admiral_Chicago> CofCC, why don't you just reinstall Grub?
[05:10] <intelikey> BluesKaj sudo killall kdm
[05:10] <CofCC> do I have to reinstall Grub from the Kubuntu CD
[05:11] <BluesKaj> ok , i need another shell, what's the command ?
[05:11] <Launchpad-Lap> how long does it take to update?
[05:11] <intelikey> BluesKaj alt+f2
[05:11] <Admiral_Chicago> CofCC, no you can do it in kubuntu
[05:11] <intelikey> BluesKaj alt+f1  is here
[05:11] <binary2k2> Launchpad-Lap: depends on your connection and the power of your pc
[05:11] <Blacken> O-kay, so can anyone tell me why just about every major process--Xorg, gaim, Ktorrent, etc.--on my machine would suddenly start SCREAMING for resources? I just had to actually reboot my box because four processes were demanding 100%+ cpu time.
[05:11] <CofCC> but I can't boot kubuntu
[05:12] <Admiral_Chicago> CofCC, you can also install it from a CD
[05:12] <CofCC> ok I'll probably have to go for a reinstall
[05:12] <Admiral_Chicago> CofCC, no you dont
[05:12] <Admiral_Chicago> CofCC, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:12] <Blacken> O-kay, so can anyone tell me why just about every major process--Xorg, gaim, Ktorrent, etc.--on my machine would suddenly start SCREAMING for resources? I just had to actually reboot my box because four processes were demanding 100%+ cpu time.
[05:12] <joe__> intelikey.  what do I type in the xp run window to get the console up so I can ipconfig?
[05:13] <Blacken> joe__: cmd
[05:13] <intelikey> BluesKaj the tty numbers corespond with the function keys  alt+f1 == tty1    alt+f2 == tty2    alt+f3 == tty3          err all those are left alt key  the right alt is 13-24
[05:13] <intelikey> joe__ i don't do windows.
[05:13] <joe__> thanks blacken, I couldn't remember.
[05:13] <Admiral_Chicago> !repeat | Blacken
[05:13] <ubotu> Blacken: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:14] <joe__> intelikey, sorry i'm still trying to figure out how to share files
[05:14] <CVirus> !patience
[05:14] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:14] <intelikey> joe__ no problem.   i just don't do windows.  can't answer what i don't know.
[05:14] <Blacken> CVirus, Admiral_Chicago: I'm lagging like mad, I can't tell if anything actually goes through. I'm not a newb, I'm just on really friggin' rusty wire right now.
[05:15] <setite> all hail vmware
[05:15] <Admiral_Chicago> Blacken, ah okay. sometimes we get floods or repeats
[05:15] <Launchpad-Lap> when terminal closes that means the update is done?
[05:15] <Launchpad-Lap> nevermind
[05:15] <Blacken> Admiral_Chicago: I know. :-P I'm not exactly a newb...I'm just at my parents' house, with four walls between me and the router.
[05:15] <Launchpad-Lap> i accidently minimized it
[05:16] <intelikey> Blacken DoS ?
[05:16] <Admiral_Chicago> Blacken, are you using composite?
[05:16] <Blacken> 80% packet loss at my desk, a mere 25% loss on the floor. :p
[05:16] <CVirus> Blacken: have you upgraded from dapper to edgy ?
[05:16] <Blacken> Admiral_Chicago: Pardon?
[05:16] <Blacken> CVirus: Quite some time ago, yes.
[05:17] <CVirus> Blacken: is that Kubuntu ?
[05:17] <Blacken> CVirus: Correct.
[05:17] <Admiral_Chicago> Blacken, like XGL/Compiz, do you use that?
[05:17] <Blacken> Admiral_Chicago: Oh. Neg.
[05:17] <SHRIKEE> blacken, wifi?
[05:17] <Blacken> SHRIKEE: Yes, but that's not related to the Linux problem.
[05:17] <CVirus> Blacken: I've seen similar cases of applications eating all the resources but after upgrades from "Ubuntu" dapper tp edgy
[05:17] <SHRIKEE> http://www.j-walk.com/other/wifispray/ try this
[05:18] <SHRIKEE> maybe it helps :D
[05:18] <intelikey> does irssi beep on pm by default ?
[05:18] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, not that i know of
[05:18] <Blacken> The machine was fine all day. Heck, no problems since update. I popped the laptop on, and suddenly I was watching Xorg, Ktorrent, Konversation, and GAIM all well over 100% CPU usage.
[05:18] <intelikey> ah foo
[05:19] <binary2k2> wifi spray :p they'll sell anything
[05:19] <SHRIKEE> heh
[05:19] <Blacken> All programs that I'd invoke would do the same thing--I ran top in a tty, and *it* jumped over 100% too.
[05:19] <SHRIKEE> im not sure if its an actual product :P
[05:19] <joe__> intelikey.  I typed  "smb://19*.1**.1.10*/"     ie the other pc's ip on konqeror and I got error timeout on server?  do you think this is firewall problem?and I go
[05:19] <CVirus> Blacken: even after a couple of reboots ?
[05:19] <SHRIKEE> blacken, maybe you should slap the laptop
[05:19] <SHRIKEE> tell it to behave or you slam the lid shut...
[05:19] <SHRIKEE> you know
[05:19] <SHRIKEE> :)
[05:20] <CVirus> SHRIKEE: shut up ... drunk
[05:20] <Blacken> CVirus: No--it's fine now.
[05:20] <SHRIKEE> i am not drunk
[05:20] <intelikey> joe__ really someone else would be better help on that.  sorry.     try Admiral_Chicago  maybe
[05:20] <CVirus> SHRIKEE: you're acting as if you were
[05:20] <SHRIKEE> then you dont know how a drunk acts
[05:20] <binary2k2> joe__: do you have a firewall on the windows side?
[05:20] <CVirus> SHRIKEE: probably
[05:20] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, i'm awful at networking
[05:21] <intelikey> you'd have to bee me...
[05:21] <intelikey> beet
[05:21] <BluesKaj> intelikey: looks like Ilost my kde desktop ...gnome dektop with all the ptogs are still there , very starnge :)
[05:21] <Admiral_Chicago> joe__, do you have the same username in the other pc as in samba?
[05:21] <Admiral_Chicago> thats the only think i can think of
[05:21] <BluesKaj> programs
[05:21] <intelikey> BluesKaj did you run startx ?
[05:21] <BluesKaj> yup
[05:21] <intelikey> you got what  ?
[05:22] <BluesKaj> it takes me into gnome
[05:22] <binary2k2> joe__: can you ping kubuntu -> windows and vice-versa?
[05:22] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj, how do you know GNOME is still installed
[05:22] <intelikey> BluesKaj ok.   do this.   sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[05:22] <BluesKaj> I installed a few days ago
[05:22] <BluesKaj> gnome
[05:23] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj, how can you get into gnome and not kde?
[05:23] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago he hosed kdm config
[05:23] <intelikey> startx took him to gnome
[05:23] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, oh i figured that much
[05:24] <joe__> binary I can ping from windows to kubuntu but not from kubuntu.  in fact I sent ping from konsole and it keeps trying how do I stop it.
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> just clarifying
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> joe__, close the konsole
[05:24] <Launchpad-Lap> i noticed.. no bit torrent.. faster speed lol
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> i think there is a flag to set the number of pings
[05:24] <intelikey> you want take this one?   i need to study
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> i'd check but i'm not on linux
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, sure
[05:24] <binary2k2> joe__: Ctrl-C will stop it
[05:25] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago he's in console irssi  so it's all yours
[05:25] <binary2k2> joe__: it sounds like a firewall issue on the windows side
[05:25] <Launchpad-Lap> is there anyway to make kubuntu kde to ... crap whats the other main desktop called.. gnome??
[05:25] <joe__> thanks control c worked
[05:25] <intelikey> oh and had him  sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[05:25] <intelikey> k later.
[05:25] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, yes. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:26] <Launchpad-Lap> kewl
[05:26] <juanz> hello
[05:26] <juanz> i need a mac os theme
[05:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, kde is better
[05:26] <juanz> for kde
[05:26] <Admiral_Chicago> juanz, kde-look.org is a good place to start looking
[05:27] <Launchpad-Lap> why is kde better?
[05:27] <binary2k2> juanz: have you looked on http://kde-look.org/ ?
[05:27] <Admiral_Chicago> i think it's easiter to navigate. it's really a personal preference
[05:27] <binary2k2> Launchpad-Lap: because it just is :p
[05:28] <Launchpad-Lap> lol
[05:28] <Launchpad-Lap> whew takes a longtime to install 6.10
[05:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, yea it took me 5 hours
[05:28] <SHRIKEE> 5 hours?
[05:29] <SHRIKEE> wth
[05:29] <joe__> binary2k2 I think the ping worked from kubuntu to windows.  says 14 packets transmitted, 14 rec, 0% lost.    Any ideas anyone?
[05:35] <binary2k2> joe__: maybe a dumb question, do you have file and printer sharing activated on wondows? it's not on by default
[05:35] <SHRIKEE> windows networking is 100x easier than linux networking :|
[05:35] <SHRIKEE> :P
[05:35] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: it's also 100x less secure
[05:36] <SHRIKEE> not nessesarily
[05:36] <SHRIKEE> fill the gaps with a unix firewall ;)
[05:36] <SHRIKEE> and youre set
[05:36] <binary2k2> without a commercial firewall, it's setup to open your shares to the world by default
[05:37] <SHRIKEE> nah
[05:37] <binary2k2> and m$'s file sharing isn't as secure as samba :p
[05:37] <Launchpad-Lap> uho
[05:37] <Launchpad-Lap> imtrying to get this apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal
[05:37] <SHRIKEE> but security isnt the point here
[05:37] <Launchpad-Lap> in terminal
[05:37] <joe__> binary2k2, you're a genius.  I just checked my wireless network connection and it was not set to sharing.  I changed it now it works and I can accsess my windows shared files.
[05:37] <Launchpad-Lap> hm
[05:37] <pierreth> how do I change the color of the scrolling button without changing the color used by the selection?
[05:37] <Launchpad-Lap> nm
[05:38] <SHRIKEE> set to sharing?
[05:38] <SHRIKEE> wth?
[05:38] <binary2k2> joe__: \o/ yippe
[05:38] <binary2k2> :p
[05:38] <SHRIKEE> oh btw, binary2k2
[05:38] <SHRIKEE> maybe you know
[05:38] <SHRIKEE> i cant access computers by name via samba
[05:39] <SHRIKEE> like smb://server/ doesnt work, but smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/ does
[05:39] <SHRIKEE> how can i fix that
[05:39] <binary2k2> I think you need to have netbios-ssn in /etc/inetd.conf
[05:40] <SHRIKEE> is that disabled by default?
[05:41] <joe__> thanks a million, now any idea how I can access my kubuntu files from windows pc.  do I have to turn on sharing in kubuntu?
[05:41] <binary2k2> it baybe, I satup mine a while ago and just copy it to new systems
[05:41] <binary2k2> joe__: you can get to it from System Settings
[05:41] <SHRIKEE> i have no inetd.conf
[05:42] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: do you have inetd-superserver installed?
[05:43] <SHRIKEE> i guess not ;)
[05:43] <SHRIKEE> just a default kubuntu edgy
[05:43] <binary2k2> joe__: don't know if it's different in dapper to edgy, but in system settings, go to Sharing
[05:43] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: I'm prety sure you need it then
[05:43] <SHRIKEE> edgy has a sharing thing :)
[05:43] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: or if you want an easy way ... :p
[05:43] <BluesKaj> exit
[05:44] <SHRIKEE> easy is the only way :)
[05:44] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: just set the hostnames and IPs in /etc/hosts
[05:44] <matroblend> How do I install blender 3D?
[05:44] <SHRIKEE> im on a ever changing network
[05:44] <SHRIKEE> also on several networks, depending on the time of day
[05:44] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: that it's the "not so easy" way for you :p
[05:44] <SHRIKEE> :(
[05:44] <SHRIKEE> ill have a look, thanks
[05:45] <Pupeno> matroblend: open up aptitude, search for blender and install it; like you install anything else.
[05:45] <SHRIKEE> from apt, netkit-inetd?
[05:45] <binary2k2> yep
[05:46] <Pupeno> matroblend: if you prefer the terminal, open up konsole and run 'sudo aptitude install blender'.
[05:46] <binary2k2> have a look at the command smbtree to see if you can get and netBIOS names
[05:47] <SHRIKEE> wicked
[05:47] <SHRIKEE> :D
[05:47] <SHRIKEE> \\server comes up
[05:48] <binary2k2> than apps that use SMB should use the names
[05:49] <SHRIKEE> hmm
[05:50] <Launchpad-Lap> how can i check to see what version of kubuntu im runing?
[05:50] <SHRIKEE> *timeout to server: server*
[05:50] <binary2k2> Launchpad-Lap: cat /etc/lsb-release
[05:50] <SHRIKEE> :(
[05:51] <Launchpad-Lap> ty
[05:51] <isede> does anybody know where would i find firefox 2 package for kubuntu?
[05:51] <burner> isede: in the edgy repositories
[05:51] <SHRIKEE> isede: apt-get install firefox
[05:51] <binary2k2> isede: if you'r on dapper (6.06 or 6.06.1) than look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:51] <Launchpad-Lap> also how do i setup my printer to be default. i set it to default local in gui but it keeps coming up "there is no default printer
[05:52] <SHRIKEE> Launchpad-Lap: @ printers in system settings
[05:52] <Launchpad-Lap> swwet i got 6.10
[05:53] <SHRIKEE> haha
[05:53] <Launchpad-Lap> hmm
[05:53] <Launchpad-Lap> apparntly it reseted some stufff
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> Launchpad-Lap: like? i didnt see any of that when i did an upgrade
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> binary2k2:
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> shrikee@shrikee-laptop:~$ smbtree
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> Password:
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> ZEROCOM
[05:55] <SHRIKEE>         \\SERVER                        DataServer
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> :(
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> it wont connect tho
[05:56] <joe__> binary2k2, I can see samba ubuntu on my windows machine but when I click on it, it ask for username password.  I'm using my ubuntu username and password but not accepting it
[05:56] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: can you mount it with the netbois name?
[05:56] <SHRIKEE> how?
[05:56] <SHRIKEE> when i do smb://server/  it times out
[05:56] <matroblend> Ok so how do I open aptitude, I am use to ubuntu but want to see if I would like Kubuntu better and wish to use my favorite apps
[05:57] <SHRIKEE> matroblend look for adept in the k-menu
[05:57] <SHRIKEE> i think thats what you want :)
[05:57] <burner> SHRIKEE: try smb://ipaddress instead?
[05:57] <SHRIKEE> burner that works
[05:57] <SHRIKEE> but i want to identify a pc by its name
[05:57] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: something like "sudo mount -t smb \\SERVER /path/to/mount/to -o user=user,password=pass,uid=1000"
[05:58] <matroblend> That is the same as aptitude?
[05:58] <SHRIKEE> matroblend: adept installs software via apt
[05:58] <matroblend> ahh
[05:58] <binary2k2> joe__: try running the command smbpaswd and add a password
[05:58] <SHRIKEE> im gonna try and mount some
[05:59] <binary2k2> joe__: the samba password and the local password can be different too
[06:00] <joe__> under system settings sharing Local Network Browsing it has a default username and password, that is what I'm entering in windows and not working, any ideas.
[06:00] <Launchpad-Lap> hmm now to figure out whats up with my printer
[06:00] <binary2k2> joe__: that's the default for when connecting from kubuntu to the windows share, not the other was round
[06:00] <binary2k2> *way
[06:01] <joe__> oh
[06:01] <SHRIKEE> it wont mount
[06:01] <SHRIKEE> unknown filesystem
[06:01] <naught101> what's the best IRC client for linux?
[06:01] <SHRIKEE> konversation is teh win!
[06:01] <Dheeraj_k> !xmms
[06:01] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:02] <Dheeraj_k> xchat
[06:02] <BluesKaj> still no kde
[06:02] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: try with smbfs insted of smb in the mount command
[06:02] <SHRIKEE> naught101: the best client is a personal taste
[06:02] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: "sudo mount -t smbfs \\SERVER /path/to/mount/to -o user=user,password=pass,uid=1000"
[06:02] <SHRIKEE> k, binary2k2
[06:02] <SHRIKEE> *trying*
[06:03] <reldruh> hello
[06:03] <Dheeraj_k> !3g-ntfs
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3g-ntfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <joe__> I entered "smbpaswd" in konsole and said command not found.
[06:04] <SHRIKEE> joe__ its smbpasswd
[06:04] <SHRIKEE> double s
[06:05] <Launchpad-Lap> whew i have so much more questions
[06:05] <Launchpad-Lap> but im fixing to passout
[06:05] <Launchpad-Lap> so ill talk to yall later
[06:05] <SHRIKEE> it still says unknown filesystem :(
[06:06] <SHRIKEE> why would i want to mount it anyway :o
[06:06] <SHRIKEE> im not on this network all day :o
[06:06] <Dheeraj_k> hmm
[06:06] <binary2k2> it's just to see if it can use the netBIOS names
[06:06] <SHRIKEE> ah
[06:06] <SHRIKEE> well it wont even recognize the fs :(
[06:07] <globe> Is there some setting I have to do to get xarchiver to use unrar or unrar-free? .... they are installed but it still tells me that I do not have the proper archiver.
[06:07] <SHRIKEE> perhaps i need to restart the network services :)
[06:07] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: don;t know if it's installed by default but, the mount helper for smb is in the package smbfs
[06:07] <SHRIKEE> *just a thought*
[06:09] <fatejudger> what is the package which includes all of the dev files for qt and kde?
[06:09] <fatejudger> !kdeincludes
[06:09] <ubotu> To install the kde includes, install the kde-devel package.
[06:10] <Dheeraj_k> !d4x
[06:10] <ubotu> d4x: graphical download manager. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-2 (edgy), package size 706 kB, installed size 2016 kB
[06:11] <reldruh> can anybody point me to a good tutorial for compiling kde from source? Something newbie-friendly?
[06:11] <gtwy> reldruh: gentoo handbook
[06:11] <reldruh> gtwy: will that apply to ubuntu just as well?
[06:11] <gtwy> no
[06:12] <binary2k2> reldruh: "compiling kde from source" and "newbie-friendly" don't belong in the same sentence :p
[06:12] <SHRIKEE> indeed
[06:12] <SHRIKEE> lol
[06:12] <SHRIKEE> also, i dont think such exists for ubuntu and kubuntu since they come out of the box
[06:12] <reldruh> haha. True enough. I'm not a complete newbie but I've never compiled anything on this scale before
[06:12] <gtwy> reldruh: if you want to compile from source use gentoo, follow the minimal install guide youll learn a lot
[06:12] <reldruh> SHRIKEE: I know, but I'd like to see kde without any distro additions
[06:13] <SHRIKEE> then just uninstall those :)
[06:13] <reldruh> SHRIKEE: how?
[06:13] <SHRIKEE> dunno
[06:13] <arcan> hi
[06:13] <arcan> who install amsn?
[06:13] <SHRIKEE> gaim ftw :)
[06:13] <gtwy> distro additions?
[06:13] <gtwy> isnt there a vanilla version of kubuntu
[06:14] <gtwy> doesnt that mean non altered?
[06:14] <binary2k2> arcan: use kopete or gaim
[06:14] <reldruh> gtwy: that would be exactly what I'm looking for
[06:14] <arcan> how install amsn?
[06:14] <bill57785> hey, can anyone help? I am trying to play music from a partition that was/is used by windows (I have linux installed with it). I can't play any music on that partition......when it goes to play each song, it just skips to the next (which in turn skips through them all)
[06:14] <gtwy> im not sure as ive never used the vanilla version
[06:14] <arcan> Oo?
[06:14] <reldruh> gtwy: but I've tried all the alternate CD
[06:14] <reldruh> without much luck
[06:14] <gtwy> why do you want to change it
[06:14] <gtwy> whats wrong
[06:14] <binary2k2> arcan: both support msn network and kopete is installed by default
[06:15] <reldruh> gtwy: nothing's wrong. I love Kubuntu, it finally allowed me to ditch windows all together, but I want to see kde on its own, preferably on an ubuntu base
[06:15] <SHRIKEE> kopete even supports webcam :)
[06:15] <SHRIKEE> which is quite nice
[06:15] <reldruh> SHRIKEE: does kopete support microphones?
[06:15] <SHRIKEE> i believe so, but i havent tried
[06:16] <SHRIKEE> kopete kept messing up my msn connection so i switched to gaim :(
[06:16] <binary2k2> reldruh: gizmo project supports microphones :p
[06:16] <umuro> I did a FIXMBR in my windows on USB harddisk. To restore the grub on my internal drive I issued on grub shell root(hd0,0); setup(hd0). Now when I boot GRUB IS TRYING TO MOUNT THE USB DRIVE AS THE ROOT FILE SYSTEM. I could not find a way to recover.
[06:17] <bill57785> I can't even get gaim to work anymore
[06:17] <SHRIKEE> owned, umuro
[06:17] <SHRIKEE> howso bill57785
[06:18] <matrix> hi, i have trouble with my sound device. when i start kde it weather plays an anoying constant frequence or it is giving normal sound output on only one box. as soon as i move the pcm level in the kmixer i don't hear anything from the device until the next restart.
[06:19] <SHRIKEE> matrix, is it like a constant hum or buzz?
[06:19] <SHRIKEE> if so, try other speakers
[06:19] <SHRIKEE> might be a short
[06:19] <umuro> Any grub wizards?
[06:20] <SHRIKEE> !grub
[06:20] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:20] <reldruh> gtwy: thanks for the gentoo advice. That looks perfect for what I want to do
[06:20] <matrix> SHRIKEE: those are the build in speakers of my laptop and the problem is the same when i connect my headset
[06:20] <SHRIKEE> ahh ok, matrix
[06:21] <reldruh> gtwy: you said follow the minimal installation?
[06:21] <gtwy> reldruh: its good for a beginner linux user, teaches you about each and every little file... what graphics card do you have though?
[06:21] <gtwy> yeah minimal install
[06:21] <reldruh> gtwy: nvidia geforce 7300
[06:21] <gtwy> okay X is not going to work off the bat
[06:21] <SHRIKEE> matrix: open kmix and go to the tab switches, disable the external amplifier
[06:21] <gtwy> go to the gentoo wiki
[06:21] <reldruh> gtwy: :-( why not?
[06:21] <SHRIKEE> see if that helps
[06:21] <gtwy> its easy to fix
[06:21] <bill57785> well, everytime it goes to log in to gaim, it goes through, and then went it goes to load my buddy list, Gaim just closes
[06:21] <gtwy> but you will have to additionally emerge the nvidia package
[06:22] <SHRIKEE> bill57785: try reinstalling gaim
[06:22] <gtwy> and make sure when you use genconfig to set up modules correctly
[06:22] <gtwy> er, genkernel
[06:22] <gtwy> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_nVidia_Drivers
[06:23] <matrix> SHRIKEE: no external amps there. all options i have: phone, iec958, mix, stereo downmix
[06:23] <SHRIKEE> >.<
[06:23] <gtwy> reldruh: pretty much all other video cards run great and easily but nvidia is a weird type of driver
[06:23] <SHRIKEE> hmm
[06:23] <reldruh> gtwy: and I got this one because I thought it would work best ;-)
[06:24] <SHRIKEE> !sound
[06:24] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[06:24] <reldruh> gtwy: will I need to go through this process after or during the base gentoo install?
[06:25] <reldruh> if it's after I'm just going to concentrate on that and not worry about this until later
[06:25] <joe__> binary2k2  the smbpasswd asked me for old password.  I have never set one.  unless it is my normal root password.  WTH.
[06:26] <gtwy> reldruh: last thing before you reboot
[06:26] <gtwy> but make sure you read that page before you run genkernel!
[06:26] <reldruh> hmmm
[06:26] <gtwy> you can do it after you reboot but X wont work
[06:26] <gtwy> youll be in text only
[06:26] <binary2k2> joe__: try just pressing enter, or entering you normall user password
[06:26] <reldruh> gtwy: I'm decently comfortable with a cli
[06:27] <reldruh> but I'm going to go read it now while the minimal CD downloads, then come back with whatever questions I have before taking the plunge
[06:27] <gtwy> remember to write down anything you need
[06:27] <gtwy> like all your network information
[06:28] <gtwy> nameservers if your router doesnt handle that stuff
[06:28] <gtwy> some networks you can put the gateway as the nameserver
[06:28] <gtwy> aka <IP_ADDRESS> but on others you have to know your ISPs actual nameserver
[06:28] <joe__> i did.  it just always says could not connect to machine <IP_ADDRESS>: Nt status logon failure
[06:29] <joe__> failed to change password for "username"
[06:29] <gradin> hey guys
[06:29] <gtwy> binary2k2: yeah really, my first 2 computers were ONLY cli
[06:29] <gradin> i got a question is there a way to monitor an SSL connection Hostside?
[06:29] <joe__> In windows when its asking for username for samba desktop do I use my kubuntu login name?
[06:30] <binary2k2> joe__: make sure samba is running with "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart"
[06:30] <gradin> and is there also a way i can see currently logged in users?
[06:30] <binary2k2> joe__: yes, try with that
[06:30] <gtwy> joe__: which computer are you tryingn to connect into
[06:30] <gtwy> the linux machine?
[06:30] <joe__> yes from windows pc to kubuntu pc
[06:31] <gtwy> windows what
[06:31] <gtwy> xp?
[06:31] <binary2k2> gtwy: yes, he has win xp
[06:32] <gtwy> binary2k2: did you see samba released a fix in their newest version to be compatible with vista?
[06:32] <gtwy> however ubuntu/kubuntu repositories are not distributing it yet im not sure why
[06:33] <binary2k2> gtwy: matbe because vista isn't out yet
[06:33] <gtwy> oh
[06:33] <gtwy> http://tool.gtwy.net/vista ;)
[06:33] <gtwy> RTM
[06:33] <binary2k2> gtwy: and who knows when(IF) it will be
[06:33] <gtwy> they release it to enterprise  in a few weeks here
[06:33] <gtwy> im on it right now actually
[06:34] <gtwy> i run gentoo on all my server machines and kubuntu on my laptop
[06:34] <binary2k2> ahh, but how long to Windows Vists SP1 comes out? :p
[06:34] <gtwy> lol
[06:34] <gtwy> i beta tested windows vista RC1 and beta 2 and i thought it was a pile of crap
[06:34] <gtwy> was using over a GB of ram
[06:35] <gtwy> and crashed a lot
[06:35] <gtwy> ive had this machine on for a week straight, no crashes and it is only usingg 350MB ram
[06:35] <binary2k2> I don't have a spare PC with 99.9GHz cpu and 2000GB RAM at the moment, so i'm gonna avoid vista :p
[06:35] <gtwy> eh, youll need 768MB minimum
[06:36] <gtwy> i have 1GB i am going to order another one in january i think
[06:36] <gtwy> and i have a dual core amd 64 3800+
[06:36] <binary2k2> look at the minimum for XP and tell me a machine like that will run well with XP
[06:36] <gtwy> and it runs real well
[06:36] <gtwy> binary2k2: i was telling you what i thought the min should be
[06:36] <gtwy> not what they say
[06:37] <binary2k2> i've seen some (draft) specs for vista a while ago, but i wasn't saying that.
[06:38] <binary2k2> I was saying that MS always underestimate the min specs
[06:38] <gtwy> i think the idea is to push the hardware manufatures to do more
[06:38] <gtwy> and to create reason for people to buy newer technology
[06:39] <binary2k2> that's the only thing you have to thank MS for, they do push hardware
[06:40] <binary2k2> I can't wait to see those quad core cpus, and drewl over them
[06:40] <gradin> there a way to monitor an incoming SSL connection?
[06:40] <gradin> *is there a way...
[06:41] <gradin> like logging or something
[06:41] <reldruh> binary2k2: I saw that Alan Wake demo from Intel. Amazing!
[06:41] <joe__> binary2k2 did that restart thing still failing to change password.
[06:41] <gtwy> binary2k2: http://www.psc.edu/~dgraham/pics/11162006/11162006.html
[06:41] <gtwy> binary2k2: my uncle won that machine last week down in florida at some computer conference he was at
[06:42] <joe__> moving files from windows to ubuntu works great though, thanks again
[06:42] <gtwy> value is ~$4,900. Specs: Dual QUAD core Intel Xeon server 1U, RAID 3 (3 drives) hot swap 2GB Double Buffered RAM
[06:42] <binary2k2> joe__: in /etc/samba/smb.conf whats the part with "interfaces =" say?
[06:43] <gtwy> binary2k2: he had it shipped back up here but he hasnt got it in yet, i told him we are going to have to do some compiling on it to see just how fast it is
[06:43] <binary2k2> gtwy: not fair, I want that :p
[06:43] <gtwy> yeah really
[06:43] <gtwy> he is going to sell it
[06:43] <BonBonTheJon> any one know how to find what type of memory a computer is using
[06:43] <gtwy> i am jealous of him, he works at the PSC so he gets to play with supercomputers all day anyways
[06:43] <binary2k2> BonBonTheJon: type free in to a terminal
[06:44] <BonBonTheJon> binary2k2: no, I mean like PC2100 type
[06:44] <binary2k2> gtwy: I would never go home :p
[06:44] <binary2k2> BonBonTheJon: oh, try lshw , you may have to apt-get it
[06:45] <reldruh> gtwy: the part of the nvidia driver howto on the gentoo wiki I needed to read was about the required kernel settings?
[06:45] <gtwy>  yes
[06:45] <gtwy> for when you run genkernel
[06:45] <reldruh> notech: If you built your kernel with genkernel, you should be able to skip this section.
[06:45] <BonBonTheJon> binary2k2: thatnks, I just ran it
[06:45] <reldruh> note*
[06:46] <reldruh> so this is just something I need to make sure goes normally and not fiddle with anything?
[06:46] <gtwy> reldruh: pretty much
[06:46] <reldruh> gtwy: OK :-) thank you very much. I'm going to try my hand at gentoo now
[06:46] <gtwy> good luck
[06:47] <reldruh> thanks :-) I'll make sure to report back (probably with lots of questions)
[06:50] <gradin> hey gtuy do you know of a way to monitor an incoming SSL connection?
[06:55] <gtwy> question, what is this all about?
[06:55] <gtwy> #kubuntu(+cfnt #ubuntu-unregged)
[06:56] <airfoil_1> hello
[06:57] <airfoil_1> I try to use adept installer to add packages from internet but fail
[06:57] <airfoil_1> please help
[06:57] <gtwy> airfoil_1: which packages
[06:57] <airfoil_1> all
[06:57] <gtwy> all packages or any package
[06:58] <gtwy> have you tried going through the package manager or the "add remove programs" link in the menu
[06:58] <airfoil_1> the package i haven't install into the system during cd installaton become grey
[06:59] <airfoil_1> gtwy: i try use add/rmove
[06:59] <gtwy> go through the package manager
[06:59] <gtwy> it is under system i think
[06:59] <airfoil_1> yup
[06:59] <gtwy> sync it with the repositories
[06:59] <airfoil_1> assume i want development package
[07:00] <airfoil_1> the package become grey which i can't click on it.
[07:00] <gtwy> airfoil_1: do you have a working internet connection on it
[07:00] <airfoil_1> gtwy: I got it. i am tryng now.
[07:01] <bLaZeD> how can i record my desktop....?
[07:01] <gtwy> airfoil_1: the kubuntu machine, does it have a working internet connection
[07:02] <airfoil_1> yes I have internet. the machine i use is the one i am chatting now.
[07:03] <gtwy> okay
[07:03] <airfoil_1> hold on I trying
[07:03] <airfoil_1> previosly i use the add/remove program at start menu.
[07:03] <airfoil_1> but found nothing.
[07:03] <gtwy> i never use that
[07:04] <gtwy> i just type the name of the package into the adept package manager
[07:04] <airfoil_1> now i am tryng system-->adept manager
[07:04] <gtwy> and download through there
[07:05] <airfoil_1> thank you gtwy. i am exploring adept manager thru system-->adept manager now.
[07:05] <airfoil_1> what is different between add/remove program (adpt manager) and system-->adept manager?
[07:06] <gtwy> well i know you need to sync with the respositories to make sure you have the most updated list of files before you start downloading
[07:06] <gtwy> and i think the only way to update your list is with the adept manager
[07:06] <gtwy> is it working now?
[07:06] <gtwy> if it isnt i have another idea
[07:06] <airfoil_1> actually i want to add my package not upgrade.
[07:07] <gtwy> airfoil_1: i know, but your computer has to have a LIST of available packages so when you click install it knows what to download
[07:07] <gtwy> what the hell is this
[07:08] <airfoil_1> yes. the list become grey and i can't click on it.
[07:08] <airfoil_1> gtwy: i tihink some flooding #kubuntu
[07:08] <airfoil_1> someone
[07:53] <aoeuid> could anyone help me set up wine?
[07:54] <aoeuid> ._.
[07:58] <fatejudger> has anyone been successful at compiling the new kpilot after the whole data loss bug?
[07:58] <fatejudger> I can't seem to get a successful compile
[08:09] <superlion> i was thinking about installing newest Beryl versio from http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/pool/edgy/beryl-svn/ . can i somehow add it to sources.list or how would it be easiest to install?
[08:10] <binary2k2> I have it in my sources.list, i'll go get it
[08:11] <binary2k2> superlion: deb http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org edgy beryl-svn
[08:16] <gtwy> glad to see the network is back
[08:16] <binary2k2> you know what happened ?
[08:16] <gtwy> no idea
[08:16] <gtwy> godling)) from what i gather in #freenode-social it was a bug in the ircd
[08:17] <gtwy> what someone in the other room i lurk in said
[08:17] <binary2k2> nasty little bug :p
[08:17] <matroblend> Hi how do I get flash to work with Konqueror?
[08:18] <gtwy> try googling "easy ubuntu"
[08:18] <binary2k2> matroblend: you in dapper or edgy? and do you want flash9 (beta) ?
[08:18] <matroblend> Edgy
[08:19] <matroblend> Hmm not sure
[08:19] <matroblend> On the 9beta I guess so
[08:20] <binary2k2> matroblend: how to on ubuntuforums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279990
[08:21] <wizard> hmm
[08:21] <matroblend> ty
[08:22] <binary2k2> hmm, no topic in here
[08:23] <metres> Hi all, I'm running Edgy on AMD64 and I have a problem : when I try to watch a movie with Kaffeine, the X-Server is restarting...
[08:23] <seven> anyone what package do i need for xen
[08:24] <_kuja_> metres, what video driver are you using?
[08:24] <metres> ATI 8.31.5
[08:25] <_kuja_> I wouldn't doubt if that were the problem, does the XServer restart when you're using the vesa or ati driver? (as opposed to fglrx)
[08:25] <metres> fglrx
[08:26] <metres> I didnt try with vesa driver...
[08:26] <_kuja_> Could be worth trying, but one idea first
[08:26] <_kuja_> in Kaffeine go to Settings->Xine engine parameters
[08:27] <_kuja_> in the video tab change it to something else, like opengl
[08:27] <metres> watchout I'll try I'm maybe restart...
[08:28] <metres> Nice It has worked :)
[08:28] <metres> thanks a lot _kuja_ !!
[08:28] <_kuja_> Yeah, the fglrx driver is really flaky, glad I went with a nvidia card. You're welcome
[08:29] <seven> anyone what package do i need for xen
[08:30] <_kuja_> Probably xen-image-xen0-2.6.17-6-generic-xen0, but I've never used it
[08:30] <_kuja_> (assuming Edgy)
[08:30] <seven> thanks
[08:35] <joe__> anyone here
[08:36] <parker`> My firefox is crashing every time I try to load sites like gmail or facebook or even my school's cs websites. It only doesn't crash on very simple HTML only pages. I am using version 2.0 on an up-to-date version of kubuntu
[08:36] <joe__> everyone asleep?
[08:36] <_kuja_> I'm asleep.
[08:36] <metres> Im there too...
[08:37] <joe__> you guys know much about samba
[08:37] <_kuja_> A little
[08:37] <metres> Never use...
[08:37] <_nightrid3r_> joe__: nope, i'm white so i can't dance :)
[08:38] <binary2k2> still havin problems joe__ ?
[08:38] <joe__> im editing the smb.conf  which should get rid of the password problem
[08:39] <binary2k2> yeah
[08:39] <joe__> I'm using nano in pico mode.  I forgot to get root access so after the changes I cant right to file
[08:40] <binary2k2> save it to another file and copt it over
[08:40] <binary2k2> *copy
[08:41] <joe__> I opened another terminal   did "su"  then root password.  it says su:authentication failure
[08:41] <binary2k2> use "sudo -i" or "sudo su" insted of su
[08:42] <joe__> will this give me write access in the firtst nano terminal?
[08:42] <binary2k2> yeah, it's the same as su
[08:42] <binary2k2> just more ubuntu-ish
[08:44] <joe__> only been on linux 2 weeks,  big learning curve
[08:44] <binary2k2> yeah, but if you'd only used windows for 2 weeks, it's still a learning curve :p
[08:45] <joe__> true, true
[08:45] <binary2k2> you'll get used to the linux way
[08:46] <binary2k2> and wounder how you ever got along without it :D
[08:46] <joe__> if I use alt B to make backup file of smb.conf do I need to change the name to something like smb2.conf for the backup?
[08:47] <joe__> or is it just same name and system marks it as bu of original file?
[08:47] <binary2k2> no, the backup will be saved as filename.ext~
[08:47] <binary2k2> toy just save as normak
[08:48] <binary2k2> you*
[08:49] <metres> Do anyone know cgi ?
[08:49] <solid_liq> anyone know of a channel for nxserver/freenx?
[08:53] <_kuja_> metres..... you mean perl, right?
[08:53] <metres> I try to call a cgi in an html page throw localhost in perl yes...
[08:54] <_kuja_> You try to, and what happens?
[08:54] <metres> nothing...
[08:54] <_kuja_> *nod*
[08:54] <_kuja_> You have #!/usr/bin/perl at the top of the file right?
[08:55] <metres> I do as examples, put my script in the /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ and call
[08:55] <klove> aany1 here?
[08:55] <klove> i really ned help
[08:55] <metres> I am able to call http://localhost/cgi-bin/Premier.pl
[08:55] <_kuja_> klove, of course I'm not here.
[08:55] <klove> *need
[08:55] <klove> with an eggdrop
[08:56] <_kuja_> dropping eggs? Sounds messy
[08:56] <klove> it is
[08:56] <klove> lol
[08:56] <metres> but Im unable to use "<!--#exec cgi="Premier.pl"-->"
[08:56] <klove> i'm a newb to linux
[08:56] <metres> welcome then
[08:56] <joe__> binary how do I clear all the lines and paste in the previous file I saved
[08:57] <klove> i had an irc bot on server2k3 box
[08:57] <klove> switched to ubuntu and setup eggdrop
[08:57] <klove> and when it connected it started removing all the bans and excempts
[08:58] <klove> how do i turn that off
[08:58] <joe__> I'm using nano in pico mode I guess, not very familiar with the controls
[08:58] <_kuja_> So what did you need then klove?
[08:58] <_kuja_> Wait, it didn't scroll, weird
[08:58] <binary2k2> joe__: controls are on the bottom, what you need help with?
[08:58] <unix_infidel> does Kubuntu have a system similar to kickstart in RHEL?
[08:59] <emonkey> I don't know kickstart but maybe you means something like katapult
[08:59] <joe__> need to delete old file info and paste in new file info that I saved in home directory
[08:59] <klove> i just want to use the bot for fun not channel services
[08:59] <unix_infidel> emonkey: nope.
[08:59] <unix_infidel> Anyone else who knows some enterprise solutions?
[08:59] <_kuja_> unix_infidel: You can get kickstart if you want it, I'm pretty sure.
[09:00] <emonkey> is that some OEM soultion?
[09:00] <binary2k2> joe__: just copy it over (sudo cp file.ext /path/to/copy/to/file.ext)
[09:00] <unix_infidel> emonkey: no.
[09:00] <unix_infidel> _kuja_: well, i was hoping there is some deb/ubuntu specific solution.
[09:00] <emonkey> sry I'm going to google :P
[09:00] <unix_infidel> where you can create something like an anaconda.ks file and go from there.
[09:00] <binary2k2> joe__: or save (Ctrl-O) and change the save to path to the file you want to overwrite
[09:00] <_kuja_> I think there is a deb for it, I'm looking
[09:00] <unix_infidel> instead of having to mess with a graphical or text installer.
[09:02] <klove> tried an rpm and alien unix_infidel?
[09:02] <unix_infidel> ahh, it seems only supported for breezy and hoary.
[09:02] <binary2k2> unix_infidel: the only package I could fine with kickstart in it is: system-config-kickstart
[09:02] <unix_infidel> yea, that's it, i should've googled.
[09:02] <unix_infidel> there is no "ubuntu specific" solution.
[09:03] <unix_infidel> its basically just lets make the ubuntu installer compatible with the redhat installer and adapt automation for kickstart files.
[09:04] <klove> no one can help with my eggdrop ?
[09:05] <joe__> sudo cp smb.conf /home/joe/to/copy/to/etc/samba.smb.conf      (like that)
[09:05] <binary2k2> klove: try in #eggdrop
[09:05] <binary2k2> joe__: like cp smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:06] <binary2k2> joe__: cp [file to copy]  [where to copy to]
[09:06] <binary2k2> (with sudo)
[09:07] <joe__> so I don't need path for home/joe where the file is.  thats just assumed by the system
[09:07] <_kuja_> metres, have you tried it on another webserver? I've never tried it locally, maybe something is misconfigured?
[09:08] <binary2k2> joe__: not if you'r in the same directory as the file, tho you can if you want, won't make a difference unless you'r in another directory then you home dir
[09:09] <metres> _kuja_ : nope, I just wanted to work local... hadnt access to a server...
[09:09] <uwo> hi all. how do i set xcompmgr to load up on startup?
[09:10] <_kuja_> Hmm, if you show me a (preferably stripped down) copy of the html and the script, I could give it a go to see if it works in my webspace
[09:11] <binary2k2> uwo: in konsole type "ln -s /usr/bin/xcompmgr ~/.kde/Autostart/"
[09:11] <uwo> binary2k2: tnx!
[09:12] <metres> _kuja_ : here is my html file : <!--#exec cgi="Premier.pl"-->
[09:13] <_kuja_> That's all that's in it then? Hmm
[09:13] <metres> _kuja_ : here is my Premier.pl :
[09:13] <metres> #!/usr/bin/perl
[09:13] <metres> print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
[09:13] <metres> print $ENV{'SCRIPT_FILENAME'};
[09:13] <joe__> binary2k2 got it saved.  thanks.  now we'll see if I edited it right
[09:13] <metres> yes, the basics...
[09:14] <binary2k2> joe__: to get samba to re-read the file you need to do "sudo /etc/init.d/samba reload"
[09:15] <joe__> binary2k2  do you know about ""testparm" to check that you have not made any basic syntactic errors" do I need to do this
[09:16] <binary2k2> joe__: that's a good idea
[09:16] <binary2k2> joe__: it's bin so long since I edited my smb.conf i forgot about that :p
[09:16] <joe__> what do I do? just type testparm in a terminal
[09:17] <binary2k2> joe__: yeah
[09:17] <_kuja_> metres: it looks like it doesn't work
[09:17] <joe__> b4 or after the reread file?
[09:17] <binary2k2> joe__: before is better
[09:17] <binary2k2> joe__: if you get any errors post them in pastebin
[09:18] <binary2k2> !pastebin
[09:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:18] <metres> It's weird cause I was able to look http://localhost/cgi-bin/Premier.pl
[09:19] <_kuja_> uggh, it just had to be under my stack of java books didn't it
[09:19] <metres> _kuja_ : have you tried  http://localhost/cgi-bin/Premier.pl  ?
[09:20] <_kuja_> Calling the script directly _IS_ different though, then again ....
[09:20] <_kuja_> Maybe that's the way it should be done to begin with, it probably is
[09:21] <_kuja_> Hmm, then again, maybe not
[09:21] <_kuja_> I'm confusing myself
[09:21] <metres> hehe
[09:23] <vursitis> Hello everyone.
[09:23] <metres> Hi vursitis
[09:25] <joe__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34082
[09:26] <vursitis> I'm having a problem with Firefox, and flash. It seems every time i install flashplayer in my Firefox browser, and then visit a website that uses flash, Firefox crashes on me, well more or less it shuts down, it isn't an actual crash, would anyone possibly know what might cause this other than flashplayer being installed?
[09:26] <joe__> looks like there might have been a couple of problems
[09:26] <vursitis> Such as?
[09:26] <binary2k2> joe__: the error about passdb is fine, but what's this about /home/samba/etc/smb.conf.desktop ?
[09:27] <binary2k2> joe__: can you post your smb.conf in pastebin so I can see?
[09:28] <_kuja_> metres, I've found another way to do it, but I think it requires you to have apache running
[09:28] <metres> _juja_ : Having it :)
[09:29] <metres> _juja_ : actually Apache2
[09:29] <joe__> I added  this line "netbios name = desktop" but I think I change something else.  I'll paste it for you.
[09:29] <binary2k2> ok
[09:29] <_kuja_> <!--#include virtual="Premier.pl"-->
[09:29] <_kuja_> or whatnot
[09:30] <_kuja_> Save the html file as *.shtml
[09:30] <joe__> 34084/
[09:32] <metres> _kuja_ : Didnt work, kind of weird...
[09:33] <_kuja_> Did you remember to chmod +x the perl file?
[09:33] <metres> _kuja_ : I also tried file instead of virtual
[09:33] <metres> _kuja_ : yes,  http://localhost/cgi-bin/Premier.pl works
[09:33] <_kuja_> Hmm
[09:34] <metres> _kuja_ : and tried /cgi-bin/Premier.pl... I think I'll sleep on this...
[09:34] <_kuja_> I'm going to upload and test again
[09:35] <metres> _kuja_ : thanks
[09:35] <joe__> include = /home/samba/etc/smb.conf.desktop   that is the line that is the problem.  the directions made it seem like it would improve speed
[09:36] <joe__> binary2k2  Can you look at the file?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34084/
[09:36] <_kuja_> metres, hmm, still not working, *thinks*
[09:36] <binary2k2> joe__: sorry, I was trawling threw samba docs :p
[09:37] <metres> _kuja_ : like I say kind of weird
[09:37] <_kuja_> wait, doh
[09:37] <Simian__> why does my /etc/hosts have nothing in it?
[09:37] <binary2k2> joe__: unless you have that file /home/samba/etc/smb.conf.desktop (which I don't think you do), I'd remove it
[09:37] <binary2k2> joe__: other than that, everything looks ok
[09:38] <_kuja_> Hmm, now I get a "bad response from server" error.
[09:39] <binary2k2> joe__: except I'd uncomment the "interfaces = <IP_ADDRESS>/8 eth0" part to make sure your shares arent open to the world, only LAN and local
[09:39] <metres> Looks like include virtual doesnt compile the file... _kuja_
[09:40] <metres> Or a permission issue...
[09:41] <momal> Can someone tell me how I can go about making all my internet traffic to go through a proxy... so everything that trys to connect to the net on my kubuntu box will connect to a proxy server i have set up and use it... I need a way to do this and beable to change it easily the ip/port it connects to
[09:41] <_kuja_> It certainly doesn't want to run it for some reason or another.
[09:42] <joe__> should I uncomment this as well ";   bind interfaces only = true"
[09:42] <metres> Thanks for your help _kuja_, I think i'll try to fix it another time...
[09:42] <binary2k2> joe__: yes, uncomment that
[09:43] <binary2k2> joe__:  this is what mine looks like for an example http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34085/
[09:43] <Simian__> why does my /etc/hosts have nothing in it any more? it was supposed to say     <IP_ADDRESS>    localhost.localdomain     localhost
[09:43] <momal> Can someone tell me how I can go about making all my internet traffic to go through a proxy... so everything that trys to connect to the net on my ubuntu box will connect to a proxy server i have set up and use it... I need a way to do this and beable to change it easily the ip/port it connects to
[09:44] <_kuja_> metres, it could be that I don't know where they actually have perl installed on their server, I'll check that
[09:44] <binary2k2> joe__:  is your PC connected directly to the internet, ie not by router?
[09:44] <caryl> hi every body
[09:44] <joe__> thru a router
[09:44] <joe__> why?
[09:44] <metres> _kuja_ I tried which perl and it's /usr/bin/perl/ ...
[09:45] <metres> Hi caryl
[09:45] <caryl> i metres ..
[09:45] <_kuja_> That doesn't mean that they were conventional ... I didn't set it up, afterall.
[09:45] <binary2k2> joe__: then it's not *too* important to restrict it then, as long as your router isn't set to forward all connections to your PC
[09:45] <caryl> what 's your problem metres ?
[09:46] <caryl> perhaps , i can help you
[09:46] <metres> Unable to run a cgi (perl) script trew localhost
[09:46] <binary2k2> momal: look in System Settings, in Network Settings
[09:46] <joe__> i don't think so, I made one change maybe like that for a port to get azues to work better.  does that matter?
[09:46] <momal> That only does it to visual stuff under kde
[09:47] <momal> it doesn't work on things like python
[09:47] <momal> and console programs
[09:47] <metres>  http://localhost/cgi-bin/Premier.pl works but i'm unable to call it from an html or shtml file...
[09:47] <binary2k2> momal: look for Proxy, it will set some environment vairables for the system
[09:48] <momal> Binary2k2: I have already tried setting the proxy under kde but it doesn't work for console applications
[09:48] <binary2k2> joe__: no, that's fine
[09:48] <binary2k2> momal: is it just a HTTP proxy you want?
[09:49] <momal> binary2k2: no.. I want every port every single connection out of this computer to go through my proxy i have set up on another computer
[09:50] <joe__> don't worry about uncommenting the interface lines then
[09:51] <binary2k2> momal: you could try setting the proxy vairable and see if that works (proxy="uset:pass@IPorHostName:1234"), other than that, i don't know
[09:51] <matroblend> How do I mount a floppydrive?
[09:51] <binary2k2> joe__: no, I don't think you need to in your case
[09:52] <binary2k2> !floppy | matroblend
[09:52] <ubotu> matroblend: To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[09:52] <matroblend> k ty
[09:53] <momal> isn't the proxy varible: http_proxy and ftp_proxy? and if so they work on wget, apt-get and lynx but not other things trying to access via other ports
[09:54] <binary2k2> momal: I don't know if proxy is global or not used, but I don't use a full proxy so I don't know how to help
[09:54] <momal> k thanks anyway
[09:54] <binary2k2> momal: maybe ask in #kde or #linux if there is a way to get KDE to setup a global proxy
[10:00] <joe__> binary2k2.  Oops you did it again.  Victory.  I can now access ubuntu files and printer from xp laptop and can access xp files from ubunu.  I owe you one.  thanks again.    They make linux look like a shabbily dressed geek.
[10:05] <xsacha> link?
[10:06] <binary2k2> yeah, ive seen some, there's a good commercial for IBM and linux on google somewhere tho that's quite good
[10:06] <binary2k2> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8333280591924223277&q=IBM+linux
[10:07] <xsacha> this one: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ONl6J7z7jmE ?
[10:07] <Mlcloud> Can anyone help out with a little internet connection problem for 6.10 Kubuntu?
[10:08] <Mlcloud> lspci and lshw shows my network card, but the network settings do not. There is no eth0 or anything along those lines
[10:08] <Mlcloud> dhclient doesn't find any broadcasting interfaces
[10:08] <Mlcloud> ... anyone?
[10:11] <metres> Mlcloud : try ifconfig
[10:11] <Mlcloud> did so.
[10:11] <Mlcloud> What information should I list? I wrote most of it down..
[10:12] <binary2k2> xsacha: interesting vid, makes me wanna keep sharp objects away from my PC :p
[10:12] <xsacha> lol
[10:14] <xsacha> binary2k2: http://youtube.com/watch?v=jnIbZAqvuc4 :P
[10:14] <joe__> binary very cool linux vid.   heres one of the pc, mac linux ones http://youtube.com/watch?v=MCoveDp9PqM
[10:17] <binary2k2> xsacha: do you like things gettin show or something :p
[10:19] <binary2k2> joe__: xsacha: http://youtube.com/watch?v=1I-GDn08M_0
[10:21] <vitor> What is this network's names?
[10:21] <Mlcloud> freenode..?
[10:21] <vitor> Mlcloud: ok thanks :]
[10:22] <Mlcloud> Anyone have any clue why my internet connection in Kubuntu edgy wont work?
[10:22] <Mlcloud> I'll provide details if someone will answer >.>
[10:23] <vitor> How do I install KDM Theme Manager ?
[10:23] <abattoir> !info kdmtheme
[10:23] <ubotu> kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 264 kB
[10:23] <abattoir> vitor: ^^^^