[22:59] <draeath> Zaitzev: yea how did you install flash? I recommend you install that flashplugin-installer package. look to see if /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so exists
[22:59] <xangua> (16:52:06) maujhsn: Hello everybody I am interested in downloading the firefox flash plugin installer! Does anyone know an alternative website other than firefox? -  flashplugin-installer from repository
[22:59] <Zaitzev> I haven't installed any flash manually
[22:59] <draeath> ok, see if that file exists
[22:59] <Zaitzev> and I didn't need to when it DID work
[22:59] <fire44> having trouble with downloading updated onto new /used comp
[23:00] <draeath> Zaitzev: just look to see if it's there. you might be running flash through some gnash half-bakery and that might be the breakage. :P
[23:00] <draeath> work with me :)
[23:00] <Zaitzev> draeath: I try ;D
[23:00] <Zaitzev> look where, tho?
[23:00] <wunnle> i have a problem with panel (i think that is name of top bar). I installed 2 different drag-and-drop-to-share application, and i have the same problem with both of them. Dragging to panel icon simply not working, except i run software with sudo. But when i run them with sudo, interface of app gets shitty (i guess it not use gtk?). What do you think the problem is?
[23:01] <draeath> heh. so run "file /usr/lib*/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so"
[23:01] <haylo> nothing but a blinking _  in the end. i used unebootin should i try agian?
[23:01] <draeath> haylo: did you install grub or lilo?
[23:01] <Zaitzev> draeath: guess I gotta install flashplugin-installer then
[23:02] <haylo> i didnt see an option i thought it was grub automatically installed
[23:02] <draeath> yep. what will happen then, is you/ll have that file created (either in /usr/lib or /usr/lib64) - if 64, that one you want.
[23:02] <Zaitzev> lib32 u mean ;P
[23:02] <draeath> yea :P
[23:02] <draeath> ignore that one :P
[23:02] <draeath> so just /usr/lib
[23:03] <draeath> so you'll want to create the /opt/chrome/plugins directory if it is missing
[23:03] <Zaitzev> done
[23:03] <draeath> then either copy the libflashplayer.so there, or make a symlink (ln -s)
[23:03] <draeath> i recommend linking, so it updates when you update flash
[23:03] <Zaitzev> mm
[23:04] <draeath> cd /opt/chrome/plugins; ln -sv /usr/lib/blahblah/libflashplayer.so
[23:04] <reesk> anyone know whats wrng?
[23:04] <Zaitzev> alright done
[23:04] <Zaitzev> now let's see what happens
[23:04] <draeath> haylo: nope, in expert it doesn't do so. you need to step through all the steps it hilights for you
[23:04] <draeath> haylo: sadface :(
[23:05] <Zaitzev> i'm on youtube now
[23:05] <Zaitzev> and, haha,
[23:05] <Zaitzev> every video i click goes html5
[23:05] <Zaitzev> doh
[23:05] <draeath> Zaitzev: https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[23:05] <fire44> how do you know if you are having a graphics cars issue or an ubuntu issue?
[23:05] <MonkeyDust> Zaitzev  is that good or bad?
[23:05] <draeath> Zaitzev: it runs a small animation and tells you the version you are running
[23:06] <Zaitzev> draeath: i know, hehe
[23:06] <Zaitzev> i just like testing on videos :p
[23:06] <Zaitzev> but yeah it works
[23:06] <draeath> lol trial by fire eh?
[23:06] <draeath> Good :D
[23:06] <Zaitzev> haha yep xD
[23:06] <Zaitzev> draeath: you are my hero of the day
[23:06] <draeath> so: real flash wasn't installed, and at some point one of the opensource flash "replacements" was working, then stopped
[23:06] <Zaitzev> I did reinstall Ubuntu tonight
[23:07] <draeath> (i'm all for flash replacements... when they work)
[23:07] <Zaitzev> because of some major fubar
[23:07] <vicium> Wow. Minecraft actually uses less memory in ubuntu, how is that even possible :P
[23:07] <Joey-Jo0> Hey, so, I've got a Broadcom BCM4306 card. I've installed the firmware-b43legacy-installer package, rebooted.
[23:07] <fire44> im trying to instull ubuntu but running into issues
[23:07] <draeath> vicium: you running a server?
[23:07] <_Marcus> fire44: What issues?
[23:07] <Joey-Jo0> The system recognizes my card, but fails to run it because of 'missing firmware', why is this?
[23:07] <_Marcus> vicium: Magic
[23:07] <draeath> vicium: if so I highly recommend bukkit.org
[23:07] <Zaitzev> next milestone to reach, get mIRC installed in wine
[23:07] <vicium> Yes, I'm using the most recent development build atm
[23:08] <Zaitzev> wine is already installed
[23:08] <vicium> But talkign about client-side now
[23:08] <draeath> aah
[23:08] <draeath> ooh quick tip for ya :D
[23:08] <reesk> im having problems with software cetral
[23:08] <vicium> Bukkit reason I started with ubuntu :D
[23:08] <draeath> uno momento vicium
[23:08] <vicium> Hence my interest to install it on my homestation now :D
[23:09] <draeath> vicium: http://pastebin.com/BRR0UZF0
[23:09] <fire44> not sure if its ubuntu or a grafix card but it loads up and lets me log in but when i go to the applications on top left (11.4) the drop down bar turns to the ubuntu purple screen just in that dropdown
[23:09] <Free_Bullets> anyone have any ideas why raid-0 only yields a 30% performance improvement for these disks? each disk gets 100 MB/s on its own, but the raid array only gets 130 MB/s.
[23:09] <draeath> my server launcher tweaks. uses a bit more overhead but much less hitching for players
[23:09] <fire44> it does the same thing when ever i go to any dropdown menu
[23:09] <fire44> does not show the options ether
[23:09] <reesk> so i take it im screwed and this cant be fied then
[23:10] <reesk> fied*
[23:10] <reesk> fixed*
[23:10] <vicium> Ah I see
[23:10] <draeath> vicium: basically forces the JVM into garbage collecting objects as they are released, instead of waiting until the memory is needed to halt everything and do it in one chunk
[23:10] <jrib> reesk: you need to be more detailed... use a pastebin
[23:10] <aethelrick> reesk: im still waiting to here the problem mate
[23:10] <reesk> ive said it tice and given you all the errors
[23:11] <reesk> [22:57] <reesk> im having a problem with software central its saying theres a coding error in aptdemon with this Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 968, in simulate
[23:11] <vicium> draeath, this is my current... #!/bin/sh
[23:11] <vicium> screen java -Xincgc -Xmx3072M -jar craftbukkit-dev.jar
[23:11] <vicium> :P
[23:11] <jrib> reesk: use a pastebin to show us the full error
[23:11] <draeath> vicium: also, if you are running 32-bit java, add "-server" - the server hotspot starts slower but is more efficient overall.
[23:11] <reesk> thats everything
[23:12] <jlen> is it possible to intercept keystrokes before they reach my applications?
[23:12] <draeath> client hostspot (default 32-bit jvm) emphasizes fast startup
[23:12] <aethelrick> reesk: do have the same problem in synaptic?
[23:13] <vicium> I took your line 1-7 and pasted into mine
[23:13] <vicium> The 8th line, Is pretty much the same what does nogui do?
[23:13] <draeath> vicium: Zaitzev: gotta run. nice talking. vicium, make sure you stick $EXTRAPARMS in before the -jar else they don't actually get put in
[23:13] <reesk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/864281/ havnt tried synaptic i was more concered about this not working
[23:13] <draeath> vicium: I have x11 on the server (for another reason) that just guarantees it doesn't try to connect to it
[23:13] <vicium> Ah okay, cheers, thanks a bunch :)
[23:14] <aethelrick> reesk: ok, i'm keen to understand if the problem is in software centre or under it in apt
[23:14] <estreptococo> hi
[23:14] <jrib> reesk: are you positive?  Where is it being displayed?  Is there a scrollbar?  Can you click on it and press down to show more?  What do you do to get this output? (there are several questions here)
[23:14] <estreptococo> SOME APP FOR CUT CUE ARCHIVES IN SEPARATE FLAC?
[23:15] <jrib> !caps | estreptococo
[23:15] <estreptococo> sorry
[23:15] <reesk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/864281/
[23:15] <estreptococo> somebody help me?
[23:15] <Escherial> if i'm dual booting two OS's, is it possible to hibernate in one, reboot to switch to the other, then come back to the first?
[23:15] <reesk> synaptic isnt even installed when i click it it opens software center and asks me if i wanna isntall it
[23:15] <fire44> marcus_not sure if its ubuntu or a grafix card but it loads up and lets me log in but when i go to the applications on top left (11.4) the drop down bar turns to the ubuntu purple screen just in that dropdown
[23:16] <Escherial> (the first one is ubuntu, which is why i'm asking here)
[23:16] <jrib> reesk: What do you do to get this output?
[23:16] <Zaitzev> ok, now it's time for WINE to be a weirdo program..heh
[23:16] <estreptococo> some app for cut .cue in separate flac?
[23:16] <reesk> i find a application i clikc install it asks for password which i give and then it does stuff for a secodn or 2 then throws the erorr
[23:17] <jrib> reesk: find an application where?
[23:17] <reesk> in software center
[23:17] <jrib> reesk: was this problem always present?
[23:17] <ph8> hey all, i'm making a script to work with inserted usb disks. Ubuntu desktop automounts them (i think that's part of the desktop) - but how can i check it's mounted? I'm writing it in mono but is there an easy command line i can run or am i needing to parse the output of mount /dev/<device> /mnt/tempdir - or something?
[23:17] <aethelrick> reesk: any app in particular? all of them? just one?
[23:17] <reesk> i dont think it was i managed to install java just fine
[23:18] <reesk> pretty much all of them
[23:18] <estreptococo> nobody help me?
[23:18] <reesk> i even tried to download a ubuntu software
[23:18] <estreptococo> no exist in Ubuntu software center
[23:19] <v5632> ifpi uz jede jo?
[23:19] <v5632> to ste se moc nepochlapili :)
[23:20] <MonkeyDust> what language is that?
[23:21] <aethelrick> reesk: try opening a terminal, and entering: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[23:21] <L3top> philipino?
[23:21] <L3top> dunno...
[23:21] <fire44> any idea what my issue could be
[23:21] <L3top> estreptococo: I am sorry but I am not sure what you are asking for.
[23:21] <MonkeyDust> sounds huitzilopochtli to me, mayan or zo
[23:21] <fire44> not sure if its ubuntu or a grafix card but it loads up and lets me log in but when i go to the applications on top left (11.4) the drop down bar turns to the ubuntu purple screen just in that dropdown
[23:22] <jrib> reesk: sounds like bug #659438
[23:22] <estreptococo> L3top: i need cut .cue archives ( audio) in separate .flac audios...  exist an app in Linux for this?
[23:22] <reesk> ohh bug #659438 i know that verry well ok i dont what is it
[23:23] <g0v3rn0r> hi all
[23:23] <jrib> reesk: see ubottu's message
[23:23] <reesk> ahh kk
[23:24] <reesk> ok synaptic is done what you want me to do now
[23:24] <jrib> reesk: read through the comments in the bug report
[23:24] <g0v3rn0r> do anyone know what's the tool to administrate services on ubuntu 10.04 ?
[23:24] <g0v3rn0r> I mean something like svcadm on unix
[23:25] <haylo> dra
[23:25] <L3top> !info cuetools
 u understand me?
[23:25] <reesk> jrib: would conecting a 56k modem to my machine and whistling dtmf dial tones into it help any lol
[23:25] <L3top> !info shntool
[23:25] <L3top> check out those estreptococo
[23:25] <estreptococo> ubottu: im noob in Linux, how i can this?
[23:26] <jrib> reesk: doubtful :)  I must go, but the comments in the report seem to claim that you should make sure your ubuntu is up to date (sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade).  If that doesn't fix it, keep reading.  If you are still unsure, ask again here but mention your ubuntu version
[23:26] <reesk> im pretty sure it updating that broke it in the first place
[23:26] <patman023> hey all, best partition scheme for a new install?
[23:27] <aethelrick> estreptococo: a cue file is a cd image right? you may have to convert it to an iso file you you can mount it and rip it to a format of your choice
[23:27] <L3top> estreptococo: check http://onubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/06/splitting-cueflac-files.html see if that is what you are looking for
[23:27] <reesk> cue file should come with bin files i belive
[23:28] <reesk> atleast mine usually do
[23:28] <zykotic10> aethelrick: bin/cue should generally not be converted to ISOs.  ISOs can only be "regular" data, while bin/cue can be several things.
[23:28] <Tank_> hi all, need help plz... Running 11.04, I have a USB dongle wifi. Want to run it as a hotspot like I do on windows 7 with Connectify. I went to networks and clicked "use as hotspot" it then switches on and then off? How can I fix this?
[23:30] <arshad> is this the ubuntu server channel?? or the regular channel??
[23:30] <zykotic10> arshad: #ubuntu-server
[23:30] <arshad> r u using xchat by any chance??
[23:30] <sskalnik_> what's the proper command to edit a changelog?
[23:31] <Tank_> zykotic10, where can we ask support questions?
[23:31] <zykotic10> Tank_: here
[23:31] <sskalnik_> I remember there being a specific program that formats everything automagically, but forgot the exact command
[23:31] <Tank_> Can any one  help with this?... Running 11.04, I have a USB dongle wifi. Want to run it as a hotspot like I do on windows 7 with Connectify. I went to networks and clicked "use as hotspot" it then switches on and then off? How can I fix this?
[23:31] <Zaitzev> i'm about to give up ubuntu completely now
[23:31] <Zaitzev> I'm constantly stonewalling on a new problem, one after another
[23:32] <zykotic10> Zaitzev: that's pretty common for ubuntu
[23:32] <Zaitzev> here's the latest;
[23:32] <Zaitzev> for example, deluge is running maximized
[23:32] <wad> Is there a way to configure how Ubuntu alerts me when I get email?
[23:33] <Zaitzev> however, if i hit the restore-button so I can have it windowed
[23:33] <tajys> I've been searching how to fix this for a while, but have come up with nothing. When I updated to 11.10, my on screen volume adjustment in the top bar disappeared. Anybody know how I can get it back? It's a pain in the arse to go through a terminal and alsa mixer every time I want to adjust the volume =/
[23:33] <Zaitzev> the window size is JUST outside the top of the screen
[23:33] <Zaitzev> so I can't actually move it around
[23:33] <Zaitzev> it happens to several windows
[23:33] <zykotic10> tajys: do you have pulse running on your system correctly?
[23:33] <fire44> not sure if its ubuntu or a grafix card but it loads up and lets me log in but when i go to the applications on top left (11.4) the drop down bar turns to the ubuntu purple screen just in that dropdown
[23:34] <fire44> any help?
[23:34] <brand> hi everyone im new to computers
[23:34] <brand> i was using ubuntu on my virtual box over windows
[23:34] <tajys> zykotic10, I never could get pulse to work right, so I just got rid of it
[23:34] <velko> Zaitzev, you can also move windows by pressing "alt", clicking anywhere in the window, holding the mouse button down and moving
[23:34] <brand> now 3d dint work properly in Virtual box.so i am planning for a dual boot
[23:34] <Zaitzev> see! it's stuff like that
[23:34] <Zaitzev> wish I knew :C
[23:34] <brand> could someone guide me
[23:34] <zykotic10> tajys: THAT is why you don't see Gnome Volume then!!!  It requires Pulse.
[23:35] <brand> could someone tell how to uninstall linux which is already installed with the virutal box
[23:35] <brand> ?
[23:35] <Zaitzev> velko: thanks a million
[23:35] <wad> brand: Sure, just burn a CD with whatever ubuntu version you like, then boot to it.
[23:35] <Zaitzev> i can cross of another annoyance now :P
[23:35] <brand> wad:could someone tell how to uninstall linux which is already installed with the virutal box?
[23:35] <wad> brand: Just delete the virtual machine.
[23:35] <tajys> zykotic10, Bugger >.< I'd gotten rid of it before, too, and still had my volume adjustment thing =/
[23:35] <zykotic10> tajys: not anymore...
[23:36] <Roasted> SSH Question - can I get two systems to authenticate to  my file server with the same key? I'm looking to set up a backup process over the WAN but I have 1 user, and 2 computers (laptop vs desktop). Can I just copy the pub key for both client systems?
[23:36] <brand> wad: how much space is needed?
[23:37] <brand> i just have 5gb left in my C drive
[23:37] <tajys> zykotic10, *sigh* So, with pulse, I have no sound. Without pulse, I have no volume adjustment. Lame.
[23:37] <wad> brand: That's a little small.
[23:37] <velko> Roasted, yes
[23:37] <brand> wad:yeah can i install it in D drive or something?
[23:37] <haylo> which kernel should i install to get the standard one that comes with 11.04? i have a looong list here in theis netinstall. my usual one is a 2.6.38.? generic
[23:37] <wad> How many physical hard drives do you have?
[23:38] <wad> brand, do you know the difference between physical hard drives and partitions?
[23:38] <brand> wad: no im very new to computers
[23:38] <the_cops> how can I circuvent my schools admin password?
[23:38] <reesk> just letting you know problem fixed ran apt-get update and apt-get upgrade and now it works
[23:38] <wad> the_cops, boot to an Ubuntu CD. :)
[23:38] <wad> brand: Do you have a D: drive?
[23:39] <the_cops> wad good idea!
[23:39] <brand> yes
[23:39] <wad> How much space is on it?
[23:39] <the_cops> wad tomorrow i will install ubuntu instead of windows we have no bios password
[23:39] <mike9863> I think I accidentally removed my graphics driver. can anyone tell me how to install the open source ati graphics driver from the command line?
[23:39] <wad> If you have physical access to the computer, even a bios password won't help. You can reset it on the motherboard.
[23:40] <brand> 11gb is free there?
[23:40] <wad> brand, what else do you have on that drive?
[23:40] <haylo> no kernel suggestions? there are 12 to chose from. how about linux-image-2.6.38-13-generic?
[23:40] <brand> few important stuffs
[23:40] <brand> wad: i cannot delete it
[23:40] <tajys> zykotic10, At least now I know why it's not there, though. Thanks ^.^;
[23:40] <wad> brand, it's very likely that you only have a single physical hard drive in the computer. It is partitioned into two areas, which Windows calls C: and D:.
[23:41] <brand> wad: oh
[23:41] <a7x> hi, while creating a bootable USB pen from mac
[23:41] <wad> brand, the best thing to do is to move anything you need to keep from the D: drive to the C: drive, and then use Windows to delete the partition that Windows knows as D:.
[23:41] <cordyceps> How come every time I boot the clock is out by exactly 7 hrs, which is the relative universal time. The BIOS clock is right.
[23:41] <brand> oh
[23:41] <maujhsn> Hey folks cheese vs xawtv which is the better of the two for webcam transmission?
[23:41] <a7x> it is necessary to do dd ... bs=1m? it's really slow this way
[23:41] <bastidrazor> haylo: that is the current kernel in 11.04.
[23:42] <wad> This will free up a whole bunch of space on the machine, and booting to an Ubuntu CD will let you use all that space for Ubuntu, giving you a nice dual-boot system. Which is what I use, actually.
[23:42] <zykotic10> cordyceps: change your time zone (sorry not sure how ubuntu deals with that, debian method doesn't work)
[23:42] <haylo> nice thanks
[23:42] <brand> wad:can i use ubuntu in my hard disk external
[23:42] <cordyceps> my timezone is correct, MST
[23:43] <wad> brand, I'm not sure. Probably not. It's probably a USB drive, so the USB drivers would need to be loaded from the bios in order to boot to it....
[23:43] <brand> oh
[23:43] <velko> cordyceps, maybe you are dual booting with windows? and linux keeps the clock updated with utc and windows - with the local time. so basically they are fighting for the clock and overwrite its value
[23:43] <wad> Copy all your D: drive stuff onto the external drive, then use windows disk manager to delete that partition.
[23:43] <brand> wad: how much space does it actually take to install ubuntu
[23:44] <wad> I don't know.  I think it's part of Ubuntu, not Thunderbird.
[23:46] <cordyceps> the other yes, 'buntu no. I ran tzdata(if that's what you're referring to) but it didn't help things. I have to run the Time/Date app in the menus
[23:47] <cordyceps> or sudo date <something>
[23:48] <velko> cordyceps, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata"
[23:48] <cordyceps> MMDDhrminYYYY
[23:48] <cordyceps> velko: doesn't work
[23:48] <cordyceps> been there etc
[23:50] <cordyceps> velko: oh wait, mebbe it only works when the time is already wrong and not AFTER it's been corrected...
[23:51] <cordyceps> I mean tzdata works
[23:51] <Scunizi> Skype is listed twice in the Partner repo's when looking in synaptic or software center.. both are i386 versions.  Is there a 64 bit version available in the repos someplace that I'm missing?  It is on the Skype site
[23:51] <brand> wad: i have installed few applications in a virtual box
[23:51] <wad> brand, yeah, those will be gone.
[23:51] <brand> do i need to uninstall them or it will automaticallly work if i dual boot linux
[23:51] <brand> aha
[23:52] <wad> brand,  assuming you delete that virtual machine.
[23:52] <brand> i deleted it
[23:52] <wad> brand, ah.
[23:53] <wad> brand, you understand what a virtual machine is, right?  I assumed you did... hopefully you didn't have data in there that you wanted to keep!
[23:56] <mcurran> can anyone tell me how to successfully remove the nouveau driver and install the nvidia binary without it complaining about nvidia.ko being built.  I tried blacklisting them all conflicting modules and also adding boot line options, but still no go.  I used to have the solution hyperlinked, but now I cannot find agian.
[23:57] <mcurran> friggin' I rm -rf 'ed my home directory the other day, and caught it in time, but not intime for all my linux notes/handy facts.
[23:59] <zykotic10> mcurran: (not helpful) but installing nvidia proprietary is suppose to blacklist nouveau automatically...


[00:10] <Kaapa> ok, the problem seems to be related to compiz
[00:10] <Kaapa> if compiz starts with session start, something with xfce goes wrong
[00:11] <Kaapa> if I start with xfwm4 and then replace, works
[00:18] <brainwash> Kaapa: glad you found the culprit
[00:20] <Kaapa> still takes lot of time to log out
[00:20] <Kaapa> is there a log file around that I can look into?
[00:20] <Kaapa> .xsession-errors doesn't report a lot
[00:20] <brainwash> usually it does
[00:20] <brainwash> or is it 13.10?
[00:24] <Kaapa> it is
[00:25] <Kaapa> http://kaapa.pastebin.mozilla.org/3612299
[00:25] <Kaapa> only has this
[00:27] <GridCube> compiz is not recommended
[00:27] <Kaapa> yeah, I guess
[00:28] <Kaapa> but personally it's a performance booster :S
[00:31] <brainwash> Kaapa: check ~/.cache/upstart/startxfce4.log
[00:32] <brainwash> compiz isn't the cause of the delayed logout, right?
[00:34] <Kaapa> that's the command to pastebin from console?
[00:35] <brainwash> check like "you should check this logfile instead"
[00:35] <Kaapa> no, I undestood :)
[00:36] <Kaapa> just doesn  seem very healthy
[00:36] <Kaapa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6423934/
[00:37] <brainwash> right, high amount of warnings and so on
[00:38] <Kaapa> well, this is kind'a back to normal
[00:38] <Kaapa> weird...
[00:39] <Kaapa> well, thanks for the help
[00:39] <brainwash> :)
[04:04] <frankbro> I have compiled and installed (in /usr/local) a new panel plugin, how can I put it on my panels? It's not appearing in the list.
[04:31] <holstein> frankbro: i would ask the maintainers of the plugin
[08:29] <blinking_> Hello
[08:29] <blinking_> I'
[08:29] <blinking_> I
[08:30] <blinking_> I've installed xubuntu to SD card from USB thumbdrive (livecd)  on a CR48 (Chromebook) and installing to SD card. After reboot it's just a blining underscore
[08:43] <well_laid_lawn> !nomodeset
[08:47] <blinking_> Thanks, but its not a black screen
[08:47] <blinking_> it's a blinking underscore
[08:49] <bazhang> busybox prompt?
[08:53] <blinking_> ?
[08:53] <blinking_> I can't type during it, lol
[08:54] <blinking_> it's like DOS blinking
[08:55] <blinking_> sup wizard
[09:48] <West> Does anyone know which version of xfce Xubuntu 13.10 is using ?
[09:51] <tsimpson> 4.10.1
[09:52] <West> tsimpson: thank you, I wasn't sure.
[09:52] <TheSheep> !info xfwm4
[09:53] <West> I don't mean to sound controversal, but doesn't Xubuntu run any ads like the main version ? I know there is a way to disable them, but that's not the point.
[09:53] <West> **does Xubuntu
[09:54] <tsimpson> no
[09:55] <West> tsimpson: good, thanks again. .
[09:58] <GrandCouillon> Hello guys ! By mistake, I pressed the "Don't show again" button in a notification window. How can I reenable the message again ? (Xubuntu 13.10)
[10:37] <nikolam> weather xfce applet in xubuntu 12.04 LTS 32bit does not work again , for over 5 weeks now
[11:13] <irgendwer4711> hi, I tried to add some program to start menu using "main menu configurator" but this has no effect. new program does not appear.
[11:15] <irgendwer4711> know problem?
[11:51] <Mitizaro> hey there!!
[11:51] <Mitizaro> anybody here?
[11:51] <cfhowlett> Mitizaro, greetings
[11:52] <Mitizaro> thank u
[11:52] <Mitizaro> i have a GRUB question
[11:52] <Mitizaro> can u give me a hand a bit? :)
[11:52] <cfhowlett> Mitizaro, I'll try
[11:52] <Mitizaro> thank u!!
[11:52] <cfhowlett> grub is not my strongest ...
[11:52] <Mitizaro> so i have VectorLinux 7,  but just installed  XUBUNTU 13.10
[11:52] <bekks> 7 lines and still no question... :P
[11:53] <cfhowlett> bekks, better than the jackhole who entered the other with a hearty "Hello B*****s!"
[11:53] <cfhowlett> other DAY
[11:53] <bekks> Indeed
[11:54] <Mitizaro> still i used to have linux Mint 9  ISADORA, but the GRUB somehow finds it corrupted (didnt install VL properly to save the Mint9)   -- thats not a problem. But after installing XUBUNTU -- i neither see it in the GRUB menu during "the choice for boot", neither does hitting the MINT 9 slot loads it (cuz its in the (former) MINT 9 partition)
[11:55] <Mitizaro> my question is - how do i add XUBUNTU 13.10 in the GRUB menu from Vector Linux? (given that it is located in the former MINT 9 Partition,  and that the GRUB choice for Mint 9 was corrupted)
[11:55] <cfhowlett> Mitizaro, WAY more grub issues than I can deal with. Ask here or in #ubuntu.
[11:56] <Mitizaro> okay to simplyfy it - how can i add XUBUNTU 13.10 to the grub menu
[11:57] <elfy> boot vector and update grub from there I'd assume as a first option
[11:57] <elfy> also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2
[11:57] <cfhowlett> elfy, wouldn't the most recently installed grub take priority?
[11:58] <elfy> cfhowlett: possibly - hence the grub install page :)
[11:59] <elfy> you 'should I assume' be able to reinstall the grub for vector somehow, then you'll be able to update it and it should find xubuntu
[11:59] <Mitizaro> yes
[11:59] <Mitizaro> thats what i'm trying to do
[12:01] <elfy> Mitizaro: read the wiki - all the issues I've ever had I've dealt with using the options on there
[12:02] <elfy> but it's really a vector linux support issue
[12:02] <Mitizaro> well
[12:02] <Mitizaro> the irc channel is not very... crowded
[12:02] <Mitizaro> sudo grub-install /dev/sdX   - gives me   /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `/dev/sdX'.
[12:03] <elfy> it will ...
[12:03] <elfy> change the X to suit what it actually is ;)
[12:04] <Mitizaro> i mean
[12:04] <Mitizaro> when i hit it
[12:04] <Mitizaro> u received
[12:04] <Mitizaro> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `/dev/sdX'.
[12:04] <bekks> Did you replace sdX with the correct device?
[12:04] <Mitizaro> oh... i see
[12:06] <Mitizaro> okay
[12:06] <Mitizaro> it worked
[12:06] <Mitizaro> but i can't run the  "sudo update-grub" cuz its says there's no such command
[12:06] <bekks> You are in Ubuntu currently, are you?
[12:09] <Mitizaro> in Vector
[12:09] <Mitizaro> VectorLinux 7.0
[12:09] <Mitizaro> slackware
[12:11] <Mitizaro> i'm wondering how i can opne the "grub.cfg" file under root (some terminal command?)
[12:13] <elfy> something like this might help, but I've not had to do that for a long time    grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[12:13] <elfy> someone else might have used that more recently
[12:13] <Mitizaro> um
[12:14] <Mitizaro> then how do u guys edit GRUB???
[12:14] <Mitizaro> isnt it with the leafpad and then manually typing?
[12:14] <Mitizaro> cuz ive got no GRUB app in the menu
[12:14] <bekks> There is no such app...
[12:14] <Mitizaro> yeah
[12:14] <Mitizaro> so it has to be manual
[12:14] <bekks> !grub2 | Mitizaro
[12:14] <Guerilla> I am installing xubuntu on my dads old laptop and wondering whether to install the latest release or the LTS 12.04.
[12:15] <Mitizaro> but i get permission denied when opening it with right click> open with leafpad
[12:15] <Mitizaro> oh i see
[12:16] <Mitizaro> the  grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg  just auto-attuned grub
[12:16] <Mitizaro> nice!!
[12:16] <Mitizaro> thank u, now i'm gonna restart and see what happens
[12:17] <cfhowlett> Guerilla, the newest version has a  month life cycle.  LTS has 5 years on the desktop and a new verion coming April.  Your choice
[12:18] <elfy> cfhowlett: they've gone :)
[12:19] <cfhowlett> Hope they chose wisely
[12:19] <elfy> good job they don't think that 13.10 only has a month life cycle though :D
[12:19] <Mitizaro> okay
[12:19] <Mitizaro> didnt work
[12:20] <Mitizaro> i get some error file not found and
[12:20] <Mitizaro> (when i click the xub choice)
[12:20] <cfhowlett> Mitizaro, no error messages = no way to analyze your issue
[12:20] <Mitizaro> and then black screen -- keyboard's caps lock and the second green lamp - pinging on/off
[12:21] <Mitizaro> i guess i didn't install it properly - gotta secure the valuable files here, and i'm gonna install XUB in "auto install" and erase everything with it (i have VL's disc too)
[12:21] <bekks> Mitizaro: Thats a kernel panic then.
[12:21] <Mitizaro> lol
[12:21] <Mitizaro> what?
[12:22] <bekks> Your kernel died, missing in action, so to say.
[12:22] <Mitizaro> aha... so what can i do?
[12:22] <Mitizaro> i mean
[12:22] <Mitizaro> it will probably be okay if
[12:23] <Mitizaro> i just reinstall XUB on ALL of the hard?
[12:23] <Mitizaro> erasing all other OS
[12:23] <bekks> Please dont press enter that often, it makes things hard to read.
[12:23] <cfhowlett> Mitizaro, that should clear everything up, yes
[12:23] <Mitizaro> i see
[12:23] <cfhowlett> !enter
[12:24] <Mitizaro> THANKS TO ALL OF U -- i wish u a nice day! :)
[12:27] <xubuntu936> Hello, anyone here?
[12:31] <xubuntu936> amixer set Master toggle
[12:31] <xubuntu936> doesnt toggle
[12:31] <xubuntu936> lol
[14:55] <gandhi> I've problems with ubiquity when installing xubuntu 13.10, is always crashing. Can somebody help me?
[15:02] <Mitizaro> hey there -- i can't configure my NVIDIA drivers.. after running:  "nvidia-xconfig" i get the message:  "
[15:02] <Mitizaro> WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file. ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'. "
[15:03] <Mitizaro> both happens on the 310. ver  and the 173. ver (before AND after reboot)
[15:05] <Mitizaro> someone?
[15:07] <Mitizaro> helooooooooooo
[17:53] <gdos> how do i setup a local mailserver or mailspool file to read system messages (or to email other users on the same system without accessing the network or internet)?
[17:55] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer is where i would start gdos .. maybe moving to a server channel or mailing list for specifics.. you can try #ubuntu since this is not specific to xubuntu or XFCE
[17:55] <Donnie_Darko21> hello can someone tell where where i can adjust the brightness for my lap top got 13.10
[17:56] <holstein> Donnie_Darko21: i use the keyboard shortcuts, and they "just work" on most of my intel hardware machines.. this functionality may depend on the graphics driver or driver support from the manufacturer
[17:56] <TheSheep> Donnie_Darko21: hello again, you should have keys for that in the top row of your laptop's keyboard
[17:56] <Donnie_Darko21> oh when i press FN plus for high lights
[17:56] <Donnie_Darko21> it wont let me to make it high
[17:57] <holstein> Donnie_Darko21: is it adjusting it at all?
[17:57] <Donnie_Darko21> yes
[17:57] <Donnie_Darko21> but 1 sec
[17:57] <Donnie_Darko21> and back again to low lights
[17:57] <holstein> if so, then the issue is not "i need to adjust brightness".. occasionally, i have added a kernel line to get the screen brighter.. or used a different or more suitabe driver
[17:58] <TheSheep> Donnie_Darko21: can you open a terminal, run 'xrandr' in it and pastebin the result at http://paste.ubuntu.com/ ?
[17:58] <holstein> Donnie_Darko21: so, you brighten the screen, and when idle, the screen dims? if so, that is a setting in power management
[17:58] <Donnie_Darko21> hmm in ubuntu was called brighness and was at seeting or tweak
[17:58] <holstein> Donnie_Darko21: xubuntu *is* ubuntu
[17:58] <Donnie_Darko21> yes but cant find it
[17:58] <Donnie_Darko21> in settings or tweak
[17:58] <holstein> Donnie_Darko21: the setting im referring to is in the powermanagement.. for dimming the screen whed idle
[17:59] <Donnie_Darko21> i see but its not power managment from power on the lap top the default lights is low
[18:00] <holstein> Donnie_Darko21: and the paste output of xrandr?
[18:00] <Donnie_Darko21> one sec
[18:01] <Donnie_Darko21> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6427569/
[18:04] <Donnie_Darko21> which software can i install compatible with xfce for adjusting brightness
[18:06] <Donnie_Darko21> mine eyes burning me
[18:06] <Donnie_Darko21> come on :D
[18:15] <Donnie_Darko21> omg cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness is 7
[18:21] <TheSheep> Donnie_Darko21: ok, try this: xrandr --output LVDS1 --brightness 1
[18:22] <Donnie_Darko21> nothing happen
[18:22] <Donnie_Darko21> ok now
[18:22] <Donnie_Darko21> installed xbacklight
[18:22] <Donnie_Darko21> it work
[18:23] <Donnie_Darko21> set to 100
[18:24] <Donnie_Darko21> cant find some gui software
[18:44] <Donnie_Darko21> where can i find ubuntu software i need the bin
[18:44] <Donnie_Darko21> path
[18:48] <Donnie_Darko21> the path for ubuntu software center
[18:48] <ozberk> usr/share/bin I guess
[18:49] <elfy> //usr/bin/software-center
[18:50] <elfy> without the extra one ;)
[18:54] <Donnie_Darko21> yeah thanks
[18:54] <Donnie_Darko21> but dont install the adobe flash
[18:54] <ball> In what ways would Xubuntu differ from Debian with xfce?
[18:54] <Donnie_Darko21> i really hate adobe flash
[18:55] <ball> I'm surprised how much stuff works today even if you don't have Adobe Flash installed.
[18:55] <ball> Pleasantly surprised, mind.
[18:56] <Donnie_Darko21> yeah but really its very bad always its wrong with adobe and why they dont to it .deb file
[18:57] <Donnie_Darko21> if i m not wrong which was it for converting into deb file ... rpm to deb ?
[18:58] <Donnie_Darko21> found it with alien
[18:58] <Donnie_Darko21> and yeah
[18:59] <Donnie_Darko21> for java too
[18:59] <Donnie_Darko21> ;D
[18:59] <Donnie_Darko21> always conflicting
[18:59] <Donnie_Darko21> i will try with alien now
[18:59] <TheSheep> usually using rpms is a pretty bad idea
[18:59] <TheSheep> they are not prepared for your system
[19:06] <Donnie_Darko21> hmm did alien can convert it ?
[19:06] <Donnie_Darko21> will be deb then :)
[19:28] <Mitizaro> helllllllo there... someone here?
[19:28] <TheSheep> no
[19:28] <ball> No, we were all eaten by small dogs.
[19:28] <ball> ;-)
[19:30] <Mitizaro> okay
[19:30] <Mitizaro> so
[19:30] <Mitizaro> my nvidia drivers cant install them in XUB 13.10
[19:31] <Mitizaro> i did it, but i've got to run "nvidia-xconfig"
[19:32] <Mitizaro> i do so, and i get this:
[19:32] <Mitizaro> WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.
[19:32] <Mitizaro> ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'."
[19:32] <Mitizaro> aaaaand so i cant use my drivers..
[19:33] <Mitizaro> small dogs invasion!?!?!?
[19:34]  * ball nods
[19:34] <ball> Those happen.
[19:34] <Mitizaro> shiet..
[19:34] <Mitizaro> so any ideas how i can fix that? i run it as root, it happens with the 170 and 310 drivers too...
[19:35] <Mitizaro> oh shiet..
[19:35] <Mitizaro> i remembered -- i have to deinstall a lot of stuff i think
[19:40] <ball> brb
[19:59] <xubuntu642> hi
[20:00] <xubuntu642> xubuntu broadcom bcm4311 wireless problem. help mi
[20:01] <xubuntu642> lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7
[20:01] <xubuntu642> iwconfig lo        no wireless extensions.  eth0      no wireless extensions.
[20:02] <holstein> !broadcom | xubuntu642
[20:02] <xubuntu642> thank you
[20:03] <holstein> xubuntu642: the easy way, in my opinion.. wire up to network access, search the repos for "broadcom".. install the package the wiki states supports your device
[20:04] <xubuntu642> I have to do what you show <holstein>
[20:05] <xubuntu642> lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4
[20:05] <xubuntu642> 10:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN [14e4:4311] (rev 01)
[20:07] <holstein> xubuntu642: yes.. that ist he information i would reference on the wiki.. for that specific device.. and install what is suggested
[20:09] <xubuntu642> I want to run wifi
[20:09] <xubuntu642> what should I do
[20:10] <holstein> xubuntu642: correct.. the link i gave give the information to add the packages that will support your broadcom device
[20:10] <holstein> you should read the link i gave, find the information about what package supports your device, install the package and test the wifi
[20:11] <holstein> xubuntu642: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source ..for example
[20:12] <ball> I'm really impressed by how well WiFi worked on my daughter's Xubuntu box.
[20:12] <holstein> ball: its really up to the driver. if the device supports linux, it'll work well
[20:13] <ball> holstein: That part worked for me and the user interface was simple enough too: click the WiFi signal bar thinggie, choose our wireless LAN from the list presented and enter the passphrase.
[20:13] <holstein> sure, most modern operating system support joining wifi networks, and do it well
[20:14] <ball> holstein: Perhaps I'm not used to modern operating systems ;-)
[20:14] <xubuntu642> sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source Paket listeleri okunuyor... Bitti Bağımlılık ağacı oluşturuluyor        Durum bilgisi okunuyor... Bitti       Aşağıdaki paketler yükseltilecek:   bcmwl-kernel-source 1 paket yükseltilecek, 0 yeni paket kurulacak, 0 paket kaldırılacak ve 0 paket yükseltilmeyecek. 1.743 kB arşiv dosyası indirilecek. Bu işlem tamamlandıktan sonra 1.823 kB ek disk alanı kullanılacak. Alı
[20:14] <holstein> ball: or, you have had unsupported hardware, and somehow thought that was the responsibility of the OS
[20:14] <holstein> !paste | xubuntu642
[20:15] <ball> holstein: No, that's not it.
[20:15] <holstein> xubuntu642: whats the question?
[20:15] <ball> The question may have been asked but I don't think it was in English
[20:15] <holstein> ball: OK.. the click-n-join-a-wifi "thingie" has been working for me quite well for a while.. though, i have had issues with wifi relating to driver support
[20:16]  * ball nods
[20:16] <Guest254> xubuntu642: please prepend LC_ALL=en-us to the apt-get command, so that the output is in english
[20:16] <Guest254> xubuntu642: LC_ALL=en-us sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[20:17] <xubuntu642> restricted i386 <IP_ADDRESS> + BDCOM bcmwl - kernel-source - 0ubuntu1 [ 1743 kB] 5 sec. Were also 1,743 kB (319 kB / s) ( Reading database ... 174687 files or folders available is installed. ) <IP_ADDRESS> + BDCOM prepared to change bcmwl - kernel-source - 0ubuntu3 ( using .../bcmwl-kernel-source_<IP_ADDRESS> + BDCOM - 0ubuntu1_i386.deb ) ... Removing all DKMS Modules Done . Unpacking replacement bcmwl - kernel-source ... bcmwl
[20:17] <xubuntu642> Loading new bcmwl - <IP_ADDRESS> + BDCOM DKMS files ... Building only for 3.11.0 -13 -generic Building for architecture i686 Building initial module for 3.11.0 -13 -generic Done .
[20:17] <holstein> xubuntu642: please use a pastbin..
[20:17] <xubuntu642> wl : Running module version sanity check .  - Original module    - No original module exists within this kernel  - Installation    - Installing to / lib/modules/3.11.0-13-generic/updates/dkms /
[20:17] <holstein> xubuntu642: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:18]  * ball hides
[20:18] <holstein> xubuntu642: that looks to me as if the package is installing the drivers needed. whats the question?
[20:18] <xubuntu642> does not work
[20:19] <holstein> xubuntu642: what doesnt do what?
[20:19] <holstein> xubuntu642: you installed the package? and rebooted the machine? and tested the wifi? what operating system do you have installed? xubuntu 13.10?
[20:22] <xubuntu642> ok
[22:44] <Keyboard_1310> hello
[23:17] <Keyboard_1310> hello
[23:20] <Noskcaj> hey Keyboard_1310
[23:20] <Keyboard_1310> hey Nos
[23:21] <Keyboard_1310> I'm tryign to remap some keys having some issues with 13.10
[23:21] <Keyboard_1310> amixer set 'Master' toggle                    doesnt work
[23:22] <brauleinchen> how do I play ape files (audio format) under xubuntu 13.10? gmusicbrowserd doesnt play int
[23:22] <brauleinchen> it*
[23:23] <Keyboard_1310> try audacious+ codecs?
[23:24] <Keyboard_1310> latest audacious should  play it
[23:26] <brauleinchen> thx Keyboard_1310 , any idea on how to get gmusicbroser to play it?
[23:26] <brauleinchen> or, can I also configure audacious for my music library?
[23:28] <Sysi-> try installing gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and -ugly
[23:29] <Sysi-> and gstreamer-ffmpeg
[23:43] <Keyboard_1310> what happened to pwmconfig in 13.10
[23:43] <Keyboard_1310> ARGH


[01:42] <pleia2> sitting here with cprofitt :)
[20:02] <doctormo> Hey starcraftman
[20:03] <doctormo> And summerhome and airurando, lots of people I haven't seen before :-)
[20:40] <airurando> with of course the ultimate hopeful goal of contributing to the learning project if I feel I can be of use.;-)
[20:44] <doctormo> airurando: What do you feel you want to contribute?
[20:57] <airurando> doctormo: very early days for me yet.  certainly not technical.  Need to review the IRC sessions again and then delve into the wikis.  Most probably as a reviewer initially but I would be interested in seeing how links are developed between Ubuntu Learning and Ubuntu Documentation.  Even at this very early stage of understanding I feel strong symbiotic links should exist between these two ubuntu communities.
[21:01] <starcraftman> ah ha, airurando, we meet again! Decided to come peek into learning eh?
[21:02] <nigel_nb> starcraftman: losing another? :D
[21:03] <airurando> starcraftman: Yes indeed prompted by your good self infact.
[21:04] <starcraftman> nigel_nb: naw. I met him in the doc openweek session. airurando hehe, have fun. Lots of good folks. Just don't forget to do some wiki pages, or you'll make starcraftman sad!
[21:07] <airurando> starcraftman: It is definately on my todo list.  Be patient I am very new to all this but i certainly wouldn't want to make you sad!
[21:08] <nigel_nb> starcraftman: haha
[21:09] <starcraftman> airurando: Oh I keed, I can let doctormo and bodhizazen steal ya away for their cool project. It's about what most interests ya :).
[21:09] <starcraftman> airurando: I gave ya the wiki fg page if your interested eh?
[21:13] <airurando> starcraftman: what is fg? Anyway please do as I'm trying to gain a better understanding of all this.
[21:15] <starcraftman> fg = focus group, part of the beginners team. It's a separate group I'm part of. the wiki fg is a subsection (focus group) that works with doc-team. You'll find many of our members are well... everywhere. learning project for instance, forums, launchpad...
[21:16] <starcraftman> airurando: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Wiki < wiki page.
[21:17] <starcraftman> and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam < The home page of team. Just to be clear, ya don't need to join bt to be part of learning or doc-contributors, it's a separate group, we just happen to do work for many others.
[21:18] <starcraftman> airurando: anyway, best get back on topic, this is learning channel anyhow hehe.
[21:20] <airurando> starcraftman: Thanks for those
[21:20] <starcraftman> no problemo
[21:20] <airurando> links (sorry)
[21:26] <doctormo> It's cool to see people involved in multiple groups, the more doing both, the better the relationship will be.
[21:36] <starcraftman> doctormo: I agree. now back to discrete math I guess.
[22:11] <nigel_nb> doctormo: ping
[22:26] <doctormo> nigel_nb: pong
[22:29] <nigel_nb> doctormo: ah
[22:30] <nigel_nb> doctormo: I wondering, should I write the bazaar module for an audience of new comers to our project or general?
[22:30] <nigel_nb> i'm working on it right now and got stumped by that
[22:31] <doctormo> nigel_nb: Target it towards new people coming into our channel.
[22:32] <doctormo> nigel_nb: I'm sure there will be a bazaar class that shares with this one in develop, but this one is sort of internal classes.
[22:33] <nigel_nb> doctormo: okay...lemme get on then
[22:33] <nigel_nb> doctormo: trying to finish it today... in a few hours
[22:34] <doctormo> nigel_nb: Thank You! and good luck, I'm trying to motivate myself to keep going with the scripts.
[22:42] <Vantrax> I have a draft done for the roles stuff, ill throw it on the wiki tonight
[22:59] <doctormo> Vantrax: how are you?
[23:01] <Vantrax> going ok
[23:04] <doctormo> Vantrax: Thanks for getting the rolls done, this is the one that shows where each contributor can be helpful right?
[23:04] <Vantrax> yep
[23:04] <Vantrax> and how it all fits together
[23:07] <doctormo> Vantrax: Did you read the archive for the ways in which moodle and asciidoc fit together when me and cprofit were talking about it?
[23:09] <Vantrax> not really >.<
[23:10] <doctormo> Ah, I just have to step out for a few, bbs.
[23:10] <doctormo> Vantrax: It's not really important, but you might find it interesting.
[23:12] <Vantrax> will find it


[19:41] <DShepherd> where can i find the logs for the last ubuntu-artwork meeting?
[19:42] <kwwii> there was no meeting
[19:42] <kwwii> as per my email
[19:42] <DShepherd> oh ok
[19:42] <kwwii> since nobody replied to the first email
[19:42] <DShepherd> thanks kwwii
[19:42] <kwwii> no prob
[19:42] <kwwii> I will be sending another email soon
[19:42] <DShepherd> ok
[19:42] <kwwii> so that we can have a real meeting
[19:42] <DShepherd> real?
[19:42] <DShepherd> :-)
[19:42] <kwwii> :-)
[19:43] <kwwii> as real as possible with this bunch :p
[19:43] <DShepherd> ok
[19:44] <DShepherd> kwwii, any clue when the art direction will be decided? or are you still watching and waiting?
[19:45] <kwwii> I am going to start testing things for hardy tomorrow
[19:45] <kwwii> so tomorrow feta kuli goes in as wallpaper
[19:45] <kwwii> and we will start testing the new clear looks stuff
[19:45] <kwwii> for hardy we will not change much more than that kind of stuff
[20:03] <DShepherd> ok
[20:04] <DShepherd> kwwii, so should i gather that the art direction is clear now
[20:04] <DShepherd> ?
[20:20] <kwwii> DShepherd: yes, I assumed that after my mail a few weeks ago it was
[20:21] <DShepherd> ok
[20:21] <DShepherd> that is indeed sweet kwwii.
[20:22] <kwwii> it is in my email from the 28th of January, I can resend it to you if you'd like
[20:22] <DShepherd> kwwii, let me see if can find it first
[20:22] <DShepherd> maybe i missed it or overlooked it or something
[20:25] <kwwii> no worries, you are not the first to have missed it :-)
[20:25] <DShepherd> now, tat makes me feel so much better now :-)
[20:27] <kwwii> :p
[20:27] <kwwii> I kind of expected everyone to flip out and ask a bunch of questions but nobody responded at all
[20:42] <kwwii> well, a few responded but not what I expected
[20:58] <kwwii> that's all from me for tonight, see you tomorrow


[01:21] <mhall119> zyga: how can I get https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368198 into Launchpad so it's on your radar?
[02:17] <ehbello> hello... anyone awake?
[08:38] <mup> PR snapd#1845 opened: tests: use the real model assertion when creating the core test image <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/1845>
[08:53] <ogra_> mhall119, file a bug using the link from the topic and add the kde bug as bugtask
[08:54] <ogra_> mhall119, (nvidia drivers work just fine btw though that guy seems to use nvidia-prime, i think there are issues when the interl side is enabled instead of the nvidia one)
[10:41] <bulldog> hi friends :P
[10:41] <bulldog> ogra_,
[12:05] <bulldog> j
[12:07] <bulldog> hi
[12:07] <bulldog> "

[12:07] <bulldog> hi bulldog
[12:09] <kalikiana> grrr why oh why get snaps uploaded without any channels?
[12:09] <kalikiana> this doesn't seem very sensible for a default
[12:10] <bulldog> kalikiana, :P
[12:11] <bulldog> you mean snaps getting uploaded w/o any channel ??
[12:12] <kalikiana> Yes. And I didn't even realize (again) that this was the case so my snap was not available for 4 days
[12:13] <bulldog> daem
[12:14] <bulldog> you uploaded to store or from terminal using snap command ??
[12:16] <bulldog> what should be change-id in snap abort ??
[12:17] <bulldog> kalikiana, checkout snapcraft gui development :P
[12:18] <kalikiana> Use 'snap changes' to get the id, it's the first column
[12:18] <kalikiana> GUI development?
[12:19] <bulldog> yeah am making gui for snapcraft
[12:20] <bulldog> kalikiana, https://github.com/keshavbhatt/snapcraft-gui
[12:21] <bulldog> it is under development
[12:23] <bulldog> anyone can let me know how many ways you use pull , stage, and prime commands while building snaps ??
[18:31] <mup> PR snapd#1846 opened: overlord/auth,store: fix raciness in updating device/user in state through authcontext <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/1846>
[20:20] <spieler8> i am trying to package my app as a snap. It's a compiled binary + libs + ressource files. Is there any existing example I can take as a guideline?
[23:49] <mup> PR snapd#1835 closed: interfaces/udev: support noneSecurityTag keyed snippets <Created by jocave> <Merged by niemeyer> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/1835>


[11:13] <shogunrisk> hallo peeps
[11:14] <Blazemore> Hello shogunrisk
[11:14] <shogunrisk> hey by the way does anyone no where the z button is i have spent about 10 minutes looking for it
[11:15] <shogunrisk> oh dont worry just found it
[11:19] <Blazemore> This is a really interesting article https://www.readability.com/articles/vrwys1xa
[13:48] <pecc> hi, having trouble running µtorrent webui -- worked perfectly previously, now after boot "Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost:8080." tried to solve by using a similar problem's fix (toggle network.dns.disableIPv6 off) but it was already off... toggling my fresh VPN on/off also does nothing
[13:49] <Blazemore> pecc: On Ubuntu?
[13:49] <pecc> yes
[13:50] <Blazemore> WebUI is enabled? On port 8080?
[13:50] <pecc> it worked this morning
[13:50] <Blazemore> WebUI is enabled? On port 8080?
[13:50] <pecc> I did nothing but turn my hardware off
[13:50] <pecc> I dunno
[13:50] <Blazemore> ...
[13:50] <pecc> how do I check?
[13:50] <Blazemore> How did you turn it on?
[13:51] <Blazemore> I don't know, I don't use uTorrent. I imagine it'll be in the settings somewhere
[13:51] <Blazemore> Preferences -> Advanced -> WebUI
[13:51] <pecc> "Shut down" then wait until it's off, then cable off
[13:51] <Blazemore> What
[13:51] <pecc> uTorrent settings I presume?
[13:51] <Blazemore> Yes
[13:52] <pecc> 16:51 is how I turned it off
[13:52] <pecc> my computer
[13:52] <Blazemore> What I mean is, go to utorrent Preferences -> Advanced -> WebUI
[13:52] <pecc> uh, the problem is I cannot access my we server uTorrent :I thus I cannot touch its settings
[13:52] <Blazemore> Make sure WebUI is enabled in uTorrent, and that uTorrent is running
[13:52] <pecc> *web server
[13:52] <Blazemore> pecc: How are you running uTorrent on Ubuntu?
[13:53] <Blazemore> Explain to me your situation. What machine is running uTorrent, and what machine would you like to access the WebUI from?
[13:53] <pecc> afaik the only uTorrent version compatible with Linux is a web server version, and that's what I'm running
[13:53] <Blazemore> IDk what you're running, but it's not uTorrent
[13:53] <Blazemore> Where did you get it?
[13:53] <pecc> actually I have no idea where it's running but I installed it somehow and it's supposed to be related to localhost
[13:54] <pecc> a moment
[13:55] <pecc>  http://www.utorrent.com/downloads/linux <from there
[13:55] <Blazemore> Oh OK
[13:56] <Blazemore> So you rebooted your machine that is running uTorrent?
[13:56] <Blazemore> Did you actually run uTorrent after you rebooted?
[13:56] <Blazemore> And then go to http://localhost:8080/gui ?
[13:56] <pecc> no, Foxy refuses to connect to localhost/8080/
[13:56] <Blazemore> localhost:8080
[13:56] <Blazemore> not localhost/8080
[13:56] <Blazemore> and it's localhost:8080/gui
[13:57] <pecc> yes, typoed
[13:57] <Blazemore> OK
[13:57] <Blazemore> What's your ip? (run curl ifconfig.me)
[13:57] <pecc> (hey I know how to do that :D)
[13:57] <Blazemore> How did you install utorrent?
[13:58] <Blazemore> DOn't say "i downloaded the file"
[13:58] <Blazemore> After that, you must have used a terminal to install the files to the right locations
[13:58] <Blazemore> By the way, is there a reason you need to use uTorrent rather than a proper Linux bittorrent client like Deluge?
[13:59] <Blazemore> sudo apt-get install deluge
[13:59] <Blazemore> then run deluged
[13:59] <Blazemore> then run deluge-web --fork
[13:59] <Blazemore> Then you can access via http://your_ip:8112
[14:11] <aasu> tell me good application of ubuntu
[14:11] <Dshx> hi
[14:12] <Dshx> hello, i have something challaging for you. i got kernel panic after an upgrade to 12.04 LTS and i want to fix that and bring the system up and running again.
[14:12] <Blazemore> Dshx: What did you upgrade from?
[14:12] <Dshx> 11.04
[14:13] <Dshx> or wait, no
[14:13] <Dshx> 11.10
[14:13] <Blazemore> Is there a way to cause the kernel panic, or is it random?
[14:13] <Dshx> no permission to boot from root sda
[14:13] <Blazemore> Sorry?
[14:14] <Dshx> wait, i give you the whole context
[14:14] <Blazemore> Yes please
[14:14] <Dshx> i try to boot from the recovery console (3.2.0-27)
[14:14] <Blazemore> I'll be back in about 10 minutes, please tell me everything you think is useful. I can probably help you
[14:14] <Dshx> this could be awesome
[14:15] <Dshx> First error appearing: VFS: Cannot open root device "sda3" or unknown-block (0,0)
[14:16] <Dshx> Please append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available partitions:
[14:16] <Dshx> then there are none
[14:16] <Dshx> next
[14:17] <Dshx> Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[14:17] <Dshx> Pid: 1, comm: swapper/0 Not tainted 3.2.0-27-generic #43-Ubuntu
[14:19] <Sidewinder1> aasu, Here.. :-)
[14:21] <Dshx> All happend after upgrading to 12.04 LTS , having firefox opened for stream watching. there was an error, x crashed but mouse was visible. sadly no windows, so i rebootet.
[14:22] <pecc> sorry for dropping out, had big problems
[14:23] <pecc> everything stopped responding after I had curl installed
[14:23] <pecc> had to reboot a few times etc
[14:24] <pecc> my ip is
 OK
[14:24] <pecc> eh sorry
[14:24] <pecc> <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:24] <Dshx> Blazemore is actually afk for 5 min
[14:25] <pecc> their away says brb
[14:25] <pecc> anyways, I'll wait for now
[14:26] <Dshx> me2
[14:27] <Blazemore> Back
[14:28] <Blazemore> Right
[14:28] <Blazemore> pecc: you first
[14:29] <Blazemore> pecc: Did you make sure uTorrent is running?
[14:29] <pecc> Blaze dear what I'm saying is I can't get it to run because Foxy won
[14:29] <pecc> 't connect to localhost/what I said earlier
[14:29] <Blazemore> pecc: but is utorrent running?
[14:29] <pecc> how do I check? :I
[14:30] <Blazemore> How do you expect to connect to it via a web browser if you don't know if it's running?
[14:30] <Blazemore> You said it was working before you rebooted. You must have run utorrent at some point to make it work
[14:30] <Dshx> ps -e | grep utorrent       maybe this?
[14:31] <Blazemore> Basically, utorrent runs in the background, and then you connect to it with a web browser
[14:31] <Blazemore> pecc: But as I said, is there any reason you want to use uTorrent specifically?
[14:31] <pecc> mini laptop?
[14:31] <Dshx> does not make that much sense
[14:31] <Dshx> have also a netbook here
[14:32] <pecc> I was lead to believe utorrent is very lightweight
[14:32] <Blazemore> pecc: On Windows, yes
[14:32] <pecc> ahmm
[14:32] <Blazemore> pecc: What are you trying to achieve?  It has a full graphical user interface
[14:33] <Blazemore> No web browsers required
[14:34] <pecc> aww :I guess I hafta download those files again for seed/download -to-where-I-can-see'em :I
[14:34] <Blazemore> Where did it download them to?
[14:34] <Blazemore> check in ~/Downloads
[14:35] <Blazemore> pecc: Deluge looks like this (http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/tkknx0dh/D0.0KU497.4KDeluge_013.png)  - is that the sort of thing you were looking for?
[14:35] <pecc> they end up there only after I manually click every subfile
[14:35] <Blazemore> Not sure what you mean by "manually click" or "subfile"
[14:35] <pecc> deluge looks nice
[14:35] <Blazemore> Have you used bittorrent before at all?
[14:35] <Blazemore> Are you new to Linux?
[14:36] <pecc> well I'm here in the beginners help chat right :D but I know a bit of things so not completely new
[14:36] <Blazemore> OK
[14:36] <Blazemore> So yes, go ahead and install Deluge
[14:36] <Blazemore> The default settings are very sensible
[14:36] <Blazemore> But have a look in the preferences to make sure you know where the files are being downloaded to
[14:37] <pecc> im not quite sure what you mean by bittorrent but I previously used uTorrent on Win7 and now on Ubuntu for a few days until this whole incident
[14:37] <Blazemore> uTorrent is a protocol which allows for downloading things
[14:37] <Blazemore> ****
[14:37] <Blazemore> BITTORRENT is a protocol
[14:37] <pecc> ok
[14:38] <Blazemore> uTorrent is a "client" which uses this protocol. There are other clients like Deluge and Transmission
[14:38] <Blazemore> uTorrent just happens to be the most popular on Windows
[14:38] <pecc> yeah
[14:38] <pecc> so yeah
[14:38] <Blazemore> You can download the same things with Deluge (from Pirate Bay or wherever)
[14:39] <pecc> I looked at the webui prefs a couple of times and the "download here" field was empty, had no idea how a proper path would have looked like and was feeling lazy those times so didn't get to try it
[14:39] <pecc> I guessed as much
[14:40] <Blazemore> OK so go install Deluge and have a play with it
[14:40] <Blazemore> Download some Lemon Jelly http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7517174/Lemon_Jelly_Discography_%5BMP3%5D
[14:40] <Blazemore> OK Dshx are you still here?
[14:40] <pecc> "If you are running Ubuntu, it is strongly suggested to use a package manager like aptitude or synaptic to download and install packages, instead of doing so manually via this website." nice if I knew how to do that =_=;;
[14:41] <Blazemore> pecc: Open the Ubuntu Software Centre
[14:41] <pecc> it's horribly laggy for me :(
[14:41] <Blazemore> On Linux, you rarely install software by downloading something from the developer's website
[14:41] <pecc> wouldn't Terminal do?
[14:41] <Blazemore> Then open a terminal
[14:41] <Blazemore> And type "sudo apt-get install deluge" without the quotes
[14:41] <pecc> \o/
[14:42] <pecc> o.o I thought that command only works for stuff you've downloaded but o.o yay, ok, I'll be doing that then
[14:42] <Blazemore> the "apt-get" command downloads and installs packages from the Ubuntu repositories
[14:42] <pecc> whoah what happened
[14:42] <pecc> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[14:42] <pecc>  'Ubuntu 12.04 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release i386 (20120423)'
[14:42] <pecc> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[14:43] <Blazemore> run "sudo apt-get update" first, then try again
[14:43] <pecc> whew
[14:43] <pecc> update gives the same lines
[14:43] <Blazemore> (you can press the Up arrow on your keyboard to scroll back through previous commands you have run)
[14:44] <pecc> (noticed that earlier today \o/)
[14:44] <Blazemore> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources/list
[14:44] <Blazemore> Delete any lines which contain the word "cdrom" or anything that looks like that
[14:44] <Blazemore> But it won't cause any actual problems
[14:45] <pecc> it should open a file in gedit right?
[14:45] <Blazemore> pecc: Yes
[14:45] <pecc> ...not doing that
[14:45] <Blazemore> The cdrom lines are probably the first couple
[14:45] <Blazemore> Oh OK
[14:45] <pecc> instead it started doing what looks like loading/installing
[14:45] <pecc> puking lines in rapid succession
[14:45] <Blazemore> you ran "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources/list" and it did that?
[14:45] <pecc> yep
[14:45] <Blazemore> or when you ran sudo apt-get update
[14:46] <pecc> no, after gedit /etc/apt and so on
[14:46] <Blazemore> It doesn't matter if it's spewing out crap to the terminal, just run "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources/list" and wait a couple of seconds
[14:47] <pecc> it finished and by how the last 20 or so lines look like it's finished installing/setting up Deluge
[14:47] <Blazemore> That's interesting
[14:47] <pecc> yep, Deluge showing up in Dash home
[14:47] <Blazemore> Take a look in whatever Ubuntu calls the menu now, to see if Deluge is installed
[14:47] <Blazemore> Super
[14:48] <Blazemore> Looks like you're all set, take a peek in the Deluge settings to see what you can see
[14:48] <Blazemore> But like I said, the defaults are very sensible
[14:49] <pecc> alright, thanks a bunch o/ I'll be having fun with my Deluge now :3
[14:49] <pecc> bye
[14:49] <pecc> oh
[14:49] <pecc> wait
[14:50] <Blazemore> waiting
[14:50] <pecc> I'll want to uninstall uTorrent,
[14:50] <Dshx> re
[14:50] <pecc> so, sudo apt-get uninstall [whatever the name used to install was] ?
[14:50] <Blazemore> sudo apt-get remove
[14:50] <Blazemore> No pecc
[14:50] <pecc> remove then
[14:50] <Blazemore> If you didn't install it through the package manager, you can't remove it through the package manager
[14:51] <Blazemore> However you installed it, you'll have to uninstall it in a similar way
[14:51] <pecc> I did too
[14:51] <Blazemore> No you didn't, there aren't any Ubuntu packages for uTorrent
[14:51] <pecc> hmmmm
[14:51] <Blazemore> There was a folder download on the link you gave me
[14:51] <Blazemore> It is probably just a matter of deleting the folder you extrated it to
[14:51] <pecc> then what I remember was something other in Terminal
[14:51] <Blazemore> Do you remember running "./configure", "make" and "make install"
[14:52] <Blazemore> Frankly you're fine not uninstalling it
[14:52] <pecc> lordy, all my "Dash home can't find oh noes" files are here O.O
[14:52] <Blazemore> It isn't doing any harm just existing on your hard drive, unless space is a MASSIVE issue
[14:52] <pecc> Space IS a massive issue
[14:53] <pecc> I'm running Ubu from a SD card due to hardware restrictions
[14:53] <pecc> restrictions = half of my motherboard is fried :P
[14:53] <Dshx> pecc: nice
[14:53] <Dshx> sounds like having a bunch of fun
[14:54] <pecc> (so fried I can't use the main battery because connecting it will cause a short cirquit 8I)
[14:54] <cortman> uh
[14:54] <Dshx> Blazemore: im back
[14:54] <pecc> it is hugely !!FUN!! but hey, I'm a Dwarf Fortress player :3
[14:54] <cortman>  sudo apt-get new-hardware pecc :)
[14:55] <pecc> sudo apt-get EUR 500 ;)
[14:55] <cortman> Good point.
[14:55] <Dshx> ERROR: you need banking permissions.
[14:56] <pecc> I got a mother board damaged laptop to work with EUR 70 (dock + USB hub + HDD reader) vs EUR 300 (motherboard job) vs EUR 500 (new lappy)
[14:57] <pecc> eh but enough flooding with offtopic, I'll skip to happily enjoy my torrents ^_^
[14:57] <pecc> again thanks a load
[14:58] <pecc> (I'll be idling for a while in case I encounter any new weird stuff)
[14:58] <Dshx> and im waiting for Blazemore
[14:59] <Blazemore> I'm here Dshx
[14:59] <Blazemore> Tell me what happens to cause a kernel panic
[14:59] <Dshx> wait, i copy from above
[15:00] <Blazemore> OK
[15:00] <Dshx> First error appearing: VFS: Cannot open root device "sda3" or unknown-block (0,0)
[15:00] <Dshx> Please append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available partitions:
[15:00] <Blazemore> Dshx: Can you boot into your system at all?
[15:00] <Dshx> with another kernel, yes
[15:01] <Blazemore> Try booting into it with another kernel and run the following one-by-one in this order
[15:01] <Dshx> but x doesnt work properly
[15:01] <Blazemore> sudo apt-get update
[15:01] <Blazemore> Properly?
[15:01] <Dshx> ok
[15:01] <Blazemore> OK let me say these commands first
[15:01] <Dshx> aka fine
[15:01] <Blazemore> sudo apt-get update
[15:01] <Dshx> you cant click things
[15:01] <Blazemore> sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:01] <Blazemore> sudo apt-get -f install
[15:01] <Blazemore> sudo update-grub
[15:01] <Dshx> wait sec
[15:01] <Blazemore> then reboot
[15:01] <Dshx> i didnt have a network interface
[15:01] <Blazemore> Are you on wireless?
[15:02] <Dshx> tried boh
[15:02] <Dshx> *both
[15:02] <Dshx> cause gui isnt working right, i tried over terminal, but like i said, no internet connection
[15:02] <Blazemore> So you can boot your system, but you can't get an Internet connection, and the window manager isn't working properly?
[15:02] <Dshx> yes
[15:03] <Dshx> so i need instructions working for kernel 2.3.0-17
[15:03] <Dshx> in terminal
[15:03] <Blazemore> You won't need an Internet connection for this
[15:03] <Blazemore> Try just running "sudo update-grub"
[15:03] <Dshx> ok
[15:04] <Blazemore> When it's done, reboot
[15:04] <Blazemore> Tell me if there were any errors running it
[15:05] <Dshx> ok
[15:07] <Dshx> worked all fine
[15:07] <Dshx> now im rebooting
[15:08] <Dshx> now should i boot the 0-27 image?
[15:08] <Dshx> ok, again kernel panic
[15:08] <Dshx> same errors
[15:09] <Blazemore> Can you boot into the working system and tell me what is the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[15:09] <Blazemore> Not the exact output
[15:09] <Dshx> ok
[15:09] <Blazemore> But there will be a list of devices like /dev/sda /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb ...
[15:09] <Blazemore> Tell me what all those are
[15:14] <Dshx> easy to use texteditor?
[15:14] <Dshx> something with n
[15:14] <Blazemore> Dshx: nano
[15:14] <Dshx> thx
[15:14] <Blazemore> Ctrl-O to save, Ctrl-X to quit
[15:14] <Dshx> sda1-7
[15:14] <Dshx> and sdb1
[15:14] <Blazemore> So you do have a /dev/sda3?
[15:14] <Dshx> yes
[15:15] <Blazemore> Do you happen to know which one is the SD card?
[15:15] <Dshx> there is no sd card plugged in
[15:15] <Dshx> my system is running on a desktop machine
[15:15] <Dshx> im only online with my netbook
[15:16] <Blazemore> Oh right sorry, it was the other guy with the sd card
[15:16] <Dshx> yes
[15:16] <Blazemore> This kernel upgrade... did it just come as a normal Ubuntu update?
[15:16] <Blazemore> Or did you try to compile your own kernel?
[15:17] <Dshx> no no, normal ubuntu update
[15:17] <Blazemore> OK
[15:17] <Dshx> im not that experienced to build my own kernel
[15:17] <Blazemore> What is the full name of the kernel Grub says it is?
[15:17] <Blazemore> On the Grub menu
[15:17] <Dshx> <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:17] <Dshx> 2.3.0-27
[15:18] <Blazemore> ...2.3?
[15:18] <Blazemore> or 3.2
[15:18] <Dshx> 3.2 pardon
[15:18] <Blazemore> Because kernel 2.3 came out well before Ubuntu was even thought of
[15:18] <Blazemore> lol
[15:18] <Blazemore> OK
[15:18] <Dshx> :D
[15:18] <Dshx> but 2.6 is still in the system
[15:19] <Blazemore> "sudo update-initramfs -u -k 3.2.0-27-generic" - run that from the working kernel
[15:21] <Dshx> done
[15:21] <Dshx> offtopic: im kinda proud that nix systems dont want to initialize my harddrives like windows
[15:21] <Dshx> btt: reboot?
[15:21] <Blazemore> yes
[15:22] <Dshx> again
[15:22] <Dshx> still says unknown block
[15:23] <Dshx> well maybe the kernel not consistent?
[15:23] <Dshx> or is there a way to get my network interface connected to the internet and follow your first instructions?
[15:23] <Blazemore> Yes
[15:24] <Blazemore> At the login screen, select some kind of failsafe option instead of just "ubuntu"
[15:24] <Blazemore> Something like ubuntu 2d
[15:25] <Dshx> ok lets try this.. rebooting...
[15:26] <Dshx> where i can change the interface at login screen
[15:26] <Dshx> i dont find the dropdown
[15:26] <Dshx> or something
[15:26] <Blazemore> I think it's the little Ubuntu logo
[15:27] <Blazemore> Near the password field
[15:27] <Dshx> i think you wont belive me, but there is none
[15:27] <Dshx> haha, found. there is no image, but it is clickable
[15:27] <Blazemore> Dshx: Click your username
[15:28] <Dshx> allright, logged in
[15:29] <Dshx> no internet connection
[15:30] <Blazemore> I'm 100% sure that's an unrelated issue
[15:30] <Dshx> booted 10 min before in windows, lan works properly
[15:31] <Dshx> but i check the cable again
[15:31] <Dshx> ok, led blinks, cable is connected
[15:31] <Dshx> no connection
[15:32] <Dshx> is there a way to start the network deamon or something?
[15:33] <Blazemore> sudo service network-manager restart
[15:33] <Blazemore> Check in your network settings (the icon is on the top bar somewhere near the right)
[15:33] <Blazemore> Not sure what you'd be loking for though
[15:34] <Dshx> the problem is
[15:34] <Dshx> there are no icons
[15:34] <Dshx> even all symbols are missing
[15:34] <Blazemore> Something's badly wrong
[15:34] <Dshx> yes
[15:34] <Dshx> i totally agree with you
[15:34] <Blazemore> Something during the upgrade process went absolutely tits-up
[15:35] <Dshx> jop
[15:35] <Dshx> hmm
[15:35] <Blazemore> I would strongly recommend backing up any files, downloading the latest Ubuntu liveCD and doing a lovely fresh install
[15:35] <Dshx> do you know a way to get the network manually up ?
[15:36] <Dshx> yeah i know, but i thought it would be a good exersice for me to clean up the mess and learn something out about it
[15:36] <Dshx> i have an idea: i look up how to connect manually to my router and see if i can get a connection
[15:36] <Dshx> than i respond to you back
[15:36] <Blazemore> Manually, Dshx
[15:36] <Blazemore> You want to look at /etc/network/interfaces
[15:37] <Blazemore> Google for : ubuntu static IP interfaces
[15:37] <Blazemore> or something
[15:37] <Dshx> ok
[15:41] <Dshx> fuck yes, dhcp is up and running
[15:41] <Dshx> awaiting your orders, master
[15:41] <holstein> Dshx: we try to keep it a "family show" in here :)
[15:41] <Dshx> ok, sry ;)
[15:42] <holstein> thought, i can feel your excitement...
[15:42] <holstein> though*
[15:43] <Blazemore> Dshx:
[15:43] <Dshx> holstein: im not that good as the normal linux user, so if i can achive here and there a goal for my own im quite happy
[15:43] <Dshx> Blazemore: yes
[15:43] <Blazemore> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get autoremove; sudo update-grub
[15:43] <Blazemore> Go!
[15:44] <Dshx> Yes!
[16:00] <pecc> oh btw how does one close the CTRL+ALT+F1 terminal screen? o.o
[16:00] <pecc> escape it, whatever?
[16:03] <SkippersBoss> alt F7
[16:03] <pecc> thx
[16:16] <Dshx> Blazemore: guess what: system is up and running.
[16:17] <Dshx> the jasper package caused problems and the libjpg was not installaed
[16:17] <Dshx> *installed
[16:18] <Dshx> I really really like to thank you Blazemore
[16:18] <Dshx> you saved my day :D
[16:19] <Dshx> i want to write a go trough of the problem for others to fix that. can i name you in there?
[16:22] <Dshx> thats the bug that caused the problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/taglib/+bug/902603
[16:22] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 902603 in taglib "When installing Multi-Arch: same (meta-)package for two architectures, dpkg considers one arch as completely disappeared" [High,Fix released]
[16:26] <Blazemore> Dshx: Sure why now
[16:27] <Blazemore> Dshx: If you want to thank me for anything, you can buy a My Little Pony toy and donate it to a local children's hospital
[16:27] <Dshx> Blazemore: sounds good to me
[16:30] <Blazemore> Although I didn't actually solve anything
[16:33] <Dshx> but you got me in the right direction to solve this
[16:33] <Dshx> and thats the point
[16:33] <Blazemore> OK that's good
[16:34] <pecc> Blaze... I'm back with more :I
[16:34] <Blazemore> Hello pecc
[16:34] <pecc> so i need to bind an IP to an url
[16:34] <Blazemore> Within your local network?
[16:34] <pecc> let me check
[16:35] <Blazemore> Or just on the local machine?
[16:35] <Blazemore> You want it so when you go to example.com it goes to a specific IP?
[16:35] <Blazemore> You can edit the /etc/hosts file
[16:35] <pecc> oh great they don't know
[16:35] <pecc> well let''s assume yes
[16:35] <pecc> difference, network vs machine?
[16:36] <pecc> yes I suppose like that
[16:36] <Blazemore> Well, if you want everybody in the WORLD to be able to access this IP through this domain
[16:36] <Blazemore> You need to buy the domain and edit the zone files from your registrar
[16:36] <pecc> O.O
[16:36] <pecc> I only need me?
[16:36] <pecc> to go there via the bind?
[16:36] <Blazemore> If you just want www.domain.com to be a kind of easy-to-remember shortcut
[16:36] <Blazemore> Then edit the hosts file
[16:36] <Blazemore> sudo nano /etc/hosts
[16:36] <pecc> alright I'll try
[16:37] <Blazemore> It's pretty obvious syntax
[16:37] <pecc> hmm I expected something with "gedit" but ok
[16:37] <Blazemore> oh
[16:37] <Blazemore> yes, gedit instead of nano if you prefer
[16:37] <Blazemore> nano is another text editor which runs in the console
[16:37] <pecc> hmmm it's empty so no example of syntax
[16:37] <pecc> oh cool
[16:37] <Blazemore> SURE you're editing /etc/hosts
[16:38] <Blazemore> not /etc/host
[16:38] <pecc> yes
[16:38] <Blazemore> I don't believe you :-) Check again
[16:38] <Blazemore> sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[16:38] <Blazemore> If you're sure, just add a line in the format
[16:38] <Blazemore> ip domain
[16:38] <Blazemore> for example
[16:38] <Blazemore> <IP_ADDRESS> router
[16:38] <pecc> hah found it
[16:38] <Blazemore> what was the typo?
[16:38] <Blazemore> :P
[16:39] <pecc> an extra /
[16:39] <pecc> typical but shoulda known
[16:39] <pecc> (/ets/hosts/)
[16:39] <pecc> *c
[16:39] <pecc> *etc
[16:39] <Blazemore> Protip: Linux file and directory names are case sensitive. Remember that so it doesn't bite you in the future. file is not the same as File or FILE
[16:40] <Blazemore> Right I have to do the food shopping before I get out of work
[16:40] <pecc> ok
[16:41] <Blazemore> Editing the hosts file will work, but you might have to reboot to get it to work
[16:41] <Blazemore> There are ways without rebooting, but rebooting is 100% guarenteed to work
[16:41] <pecc> ok
[17:16] <mike760534211> i am trying to find info on how to create a short cut to terminal session that always starts in root.  is that possible.  any help would be greatly appreciated
[17:17] <holstein> mike760534211: i would look at trying to script what you are trying to do... you could have a user with limitations that can start that.. there are options
[17:17] <holstein> i would elaborate
[17:19] <mike760534211> i am running alot of dev for android and most of the compile commands require root to build properly.  everytime i build i have to su and would like a short cut or something of the nature that i can click to load the terminal and auto login to root
[17:20] <bioterror> mike760534211, alt+f2 gksudo gnome-terminal
[17:20] <bioterror> or what ever you use
[17:21] <holstein> i would not want that shortcut.. i would use "sudo -s" and just enter the pass
[19:05] <pecc> is there a way to make a file be opened by a certain time? every day?
[19:07] <holstein> maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto or http://askubuntu.com/questions/112249/what-is-the-easiest-way-to-set-up-a-cron-job pecc
[19:07] <pecc> ooh nice thanks
[19:22] <pecc> eh I have trouble understanding the command syntax for cronjobd
[19:22] <pecc> *jobs
[19:24] <pecc> for instance does "/usr/bin/updatedb" mean "execute any 'updatedb' file in folder /urs/bin/"?
[19:31] <holstein> pecc: if it were me, i would just test and see it in action... im not sure how the particulars work...
[19:32] <pecc> ok, here goes nothing
[19:41] <pecc> no, doesn't work that way
[20:04] <srunner123> hello?
[20:04] <holstein> srunner123: welcome... whats up?
[20:06] <stlsaint> srunner123: do you have an issue?
[20:07] <philballew> Were here to help!
[20:08] <srunner123> hi stlaint
[20:08] <srunner123> yes
[20:08] <srunner123> is there a way to show a list of programs?
[20:08] <bioterror> what?
[20:08] <srunner123> example, in Windows, the start/programs
[20:08] <bioterror> list what programs?
[20:10] <srunner123> I have loaded a few, but I don't want to dock all of them to the side launcher, and the only way I found them to use was to go into the Dash Home
[20:11] <holstein> srunner123: i find unity a little challenging for that.. you can search for them by starting to type the name.. seeing a traditional menu with a list is a bit more challenging
[20:11] <holstein> srunner123: from what i read, this issue is being addressed in unity soon
[20:12] <srunner123> ahh, ok cool.
[20:12] <holstein> srunner123: you can always open a package manager and look at what applications are installed
[20:12] <philballew> heres what to do srunner123 iirc
[20:12] <srunner123> another question. in the Dash Home, how do I remove the icons of previous viewed documents?
[20:12] <holstein> this also seems easy srunner123 http://askubuntu.com/questions/122437/how-to-access-applications-menu-in-ubuntu-unity-desktop
[20:13] <philballew> previously viewed docs?
[20:13] <srunner123> Holstein, that is exactly what I needed!
[20:13] <srunner123> awesome
[20:14] <srunner123> philballew, sorry, it was the recently downloaded
[20:15] <philballew> You can right click on the ubuntu button on 12.04 to go right to "applications", not sure if this was in 11.10 though. – Jorge Castro
[20:18] <srunner123> brb, going to work that menu issue
[20:18] <JoseeAntonioR> any ideas on what may return a 403 error in a PHP?
[20:49] <nhr__> Hi folks, got bsod on 12.04, after that not able to login. It says failed to load session ubuntu
[20:53] <JoseeAntonioR> nhr__: Huh? There's no bsod in Ubuntu
[20:54] <bioterror> login with ssh and check if you have whole ubuntu-desktop installed ;)
[20:55] <bioterror> or any other way like tty1 :D
[20:55] <nhr__> Black screen of death - I got a dump of stack trace and the whole thing just crashed
[20:56] <bioterror> sounds great times with computer
[20:56] <nhr__> I was logged in and was working and suddenly this happend.
[20:57] <nhr__> Only thing I can think of is I got update message and I let it update. Don't know what it updated today
[21:05] <David-A> nhr__: can you get at /var/log/apt/history.log* somehow? (e.g. live cd) it should have "Update" entries.
[21:05] <nhr__> ok
[21:06] <bioterror> tty1 and scp it to somewhere
[21:06] <bioterror> or pastebinit
[21:09] <nhr__> http://pastebin.com/jW7ZQYEN
[21:10] <nhr__> Sorry, that seems to be my attemp of fixing it as per bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/808654
[21:10] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 808654 in xorg "Failed to load session "ubuntu"" [Undecided,Invalid]
[21:13] <nhr__> This is what got installed before it crashed http://pastebin.com/XXLAhbDU
[21:14] <nhr__> After the dpkg reconfigure I am able to login but getting weired errors - Authetication required to change user data
[23:51] <srunner123> who ever it was that helped me with the program menu, thank you~ it works perfectly


[08:20] <dholbach> good morning
[08:34] <nhaines> dholbach: good morning! :)
[08:34] <dholbach> hi nhaines
[08:35] <nhaines> Could I bother you to remerge that UAK branch?  I deleted the request and fixed the syntax error and thumbnail, but I think you merged the old revision.
[08:35] <nhaines> If on the other hand you're too busy, I'll ping someone else.
[08:35] <nhaines> (And either way: thanks for looking at it!  I'm excited about the name badges.)  :)
[08:36] <dholbach> nhaines, I fixed the issue
[08:36] <dholbach> it was the branch jose pointed out to me
[08:37] <nhaines> dholbach: yes, but it looks like the thumbnail image is still the old one.  Let me check on that.
[08:38] <dholbach> nhaines, that's in lp:uak?
[08:39] <nhaines> Yeah.  I MP'ed lp:~nhaines/uak/namebadges rev. 166, but then fixed the thumbnail and bracket by r168.
[08:41] <dholbach> nhaines,
[08:41] <dholbach> daniel@daydream:~/bzr/docs/uak$ bzr merge lp:~nhaines/uak/namebadges
[08:41] <dholbach> Nichts zu tun.
[08:41] <dholbach> daniel@daydream:~/bzr/docs/uak$
[08:41] <dholbach> "Nothing to do."
[08:41] <dholbach> I think we're good
[08:41] <dholbach> unless you have another branch
[08:41] <nhaines> "Nichts zu tun" I understood natively.  :)
[08:41] <dholbach> but yeah... I'm a bit busy... so please send another MP for whatever other changes might be required
[08:41] <dholbach> :-)
[08:41] <dholbach> I thought so
[08:43] <nhaines> I just verified that it's the old version.  I'll see what I can do to submit another MP.  Thanks for your help and time.  :)
[08:43] <dholbach> in that case you maybe haven't pushed all your changes to that branch?
[08:48] <nhaines> dholbach: ah, when I pushed, for some reason it ended up in a different branch on LP.
[08:54] <nhaines> dholbach: okay, all fixed up, and not really any rush unless there will be a new package built or something.  Thanks for your patience. :)
[08:56] <dholbach> yes, saw it
[08:56] <dholbach> will take a look at it in a bit
[08:56] <dholbach> we have a daily build set up, so it'll build automatically whenever cron runs
[08:56] <nhaines> Thanks.  Should be dead simple, so please don't let it take time away from any other tasks for it.  :)
[12:59] <claudio> hello , where can i find a nice tutorial to try write a program like VB.net , complete. I need it to run light os in industrial apps and small pc.
[13:25] <ignerious> hello everyone
[18:04] <tvoss> o/
[18:20] <nik90> ahayzen: is the video live?
[18:20] <mhall119> nik90: it should be
[18:20] <ahayzen> nik90, i think it is lol
[18:20] <nik90> ahayzen: I just get a black screen with no audioo/video
[18:21] <mhall119> nik90: try refreshing
[18:21] <mhall119> http://youtu.be/zMiFbTH2nZs is the direct link
[18:21] <ahayzen> nik90, uhoh
[18:23] <nik90> weird..it broken on chromium and firefox for me..will watch when the session ends :/
[18:24] <micah2> nik90, working for me on FF right now...
[18:24] <nik90> micah2: I guess it is something on my end
[18:24] <micah2> :/
[18:30] <turbulantPinecon> QUESTION so long swipe from the left and the ubuntu Icon on the launcher go to the same application page now?
[18:31] <micah2> Question: With the new scopes, will users be able to organize custom lenses with their own selection of scope data sources?
[18:34] <turbulantPinecon> QUESTION: will users be able to remove default lenses in the future for example remove the video lense altogether?
[18:41] <turbulantPinecon> Question: I still have 13.10 on my nexus 4 and allot of applications no longer work where would I go to get info on how to update to the 14.04 version?
[18:43] <turbulantPinecon> its ok if it does thank you
[18:44] <ahayzen> thanks guys :)
[22:01] <barry> elopio: is this going to be a video call too?
[22:02] <elopio> barry: yes. I think jose will call you.
[22:03] <elopio> he's going to be the host
[22:03] <barry> elopio: okay, i'll get on g+
[22:03] <elopio> barry: I gave him your canonical email address.
[22:05] <jose> barry: if you want another address instead of the canonical one, just PM it to me
[22:22] <cgoldberg> elopio, is http://ubuntuonair.com/ the place to watch?
[22:22] <elopio> cgoldberg: yes, but I think you should have an invite on your canonical mail.
[22:22] <elopio> then you can be in the hangout.
[22:27] <hatch> its playing
[22:29] <elopio> barry: where are you?
[22:30] <barry> jose: let me know when to start
[22:32] <jose> if you have any questions, please prefix them with QUESTION:
[22:34] <cgoldberg> yay 3.4!
[22:45]  * barry hears the oscar music
[22:46] <thomi> haha
[22:46] <thomi> ouch
[22:52] <jose> paste.ubuntu.com/6997034
[23:00] <barry> great talk alesage!
[23:01] <alesage> thx barry!
[23:01] <alesage> U2 barry :)
[23:01] <elopio> barry: can you give me the link to your slides, to add them to the wiki?
[23:02] <barry> elopio: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1AT6hch0PTLigIlUjhRgvV3dfAYrqSK4ag0sjPwSdATA/edit#slide=id.p
[23:04] <elopio> ok, thank you.
[23:04] <elopio> the links to all the sessions are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/LightningTalks
[23:05] <elopio> barry: have you seen the go fix tool? I still like python more than go, but it would be awesome to have something like that for the eventual ports to python4 :)
[23:06] <jose> if you guys have a public link to the slide, I can go ahead and put them on the video description
[23:06] <barry> elopio: i haven't seen it.  go is still on my list of things to play with, but just haven't had time
[23:07] <elopio> http://golang.org/cmd/fix/
[23:08] <barry> nice.  i guess it's a little like 2to3.  2to3 isn't totally unhelpful.  for a big code base it can get you started, but it's not good for your build since it's slow, and doesn't always result in the most efficient translations
[23:10] <alesage> jose , feel free to share that Google presentation, if that helps?
[23:11] <elopio> oh, yes, and you recommended not to use 2to3. I'll give it a try :)
[23:11] <elopio> barry: I would love a longer session with your tips and tricks.
[23:12] <jose> alesage: cool, just make sure to make it public view only
[23:12] <alesage> jose ok I think it is and will double-check
[23:12] <jose> ok!
[23:13] <elopio> we should make our next QA sprint next to a pycon
[23:13] <barry> elopio: longer session: sure!  pycon: definitely :)
[23:13] <elopio> alesage: for a project like the ubuntu-ui-toolkit, I would like to get also coverage reports for the python code.
[23:13] <elopio> alesage: can you help me setting that up next week?
[23:13] <barry> elopio: +1 on python-coverage integration
[23:14] <alesage> elopio right, good question--yes it's not hard to do :)
[23:14] <alesage> elopio, using coverage, etc.--although I'm not sure that we have an existing example, now that you mention it
[23:16]  * alesage goes searching


[00:51] <SnoFox> Hello. I have an Amazon Linux 2 VM that seems to have removed the cloud-init binary and systemd units. I feel like I'm misunderstanding the purpose of the tool - I don't see anything funny in userdata to cause that nor am I finding anything in the docs about persistence. Is this expected or is Amazon doing weird things?
[13:50] <MKS2020> Hello, i’d like report a bug at line https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/blame/8116493950e7c47af0ce66fc1bb5d799ce5e477a/cloudinit/ssh_util.py#L260 not sure if this IRC channel is the right place.
[13:52] <MKS2020> cloud-init’s code by default makes a wrong assumption that all users using private .ssh folder for authorized_keys.
[13:57] <gnulnx> meena: Chef isn't even being installed.  The inital directories are created, but there is no chef-client binary, and the logs just say "running module chef ... failed", and "Ran chef but it failed!"
[13:57] <gnulnx> The cloud-init logs ^
[13:58] <MKS2020> But `AuthorizedKeysFile` directive in sshd_config could be used to have a system-wide folder with user keys which are managed by configuration management systems, for example puppet. The idea is to have configuration like `AuthorizedKeysFile /etc/ssh/authorized_keys/%u` to prevent users manage their authorized_keys or to rootkit other users from user who had a sudo permissions on host. Folder `/etc/ssh/authorized_keys/` and all files inside are owned b
[13:58] <MKS2020> root because user shouldn’t be able to modify this files. When cloud-init change mode to 700 for such folder it breaks whole consept.
[14:07] <MKS2020> so before applying 700 to folder defined in `AuthorizedKeysFile` cloud-init needs to validate that that folder located within user’s HOME folder.
[14:30] <meena> gnulnx: how is chef being installed?
[14:32] <gnulnx> meena: `install_type: "omnibus"`
[14:32] <meena> MKS2020: do you think you can patch that?
[14:32] <meena> gnulnx: ooohhh, aah? okay?
[14:32] <gnulnx> One sec, I'm pasting my config
[14:32] <MKS2020> meena: yes, https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/149
[14:33] <meena> MKS2020: i haven't looked all day at GitHub, i'm in a new paid job… and i…'ve mostly been busy setting up my laptop, 😆
[14:34] <meena> MKS2020: did you look at https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/blob/master/HACKING.rst ?
[14:35] <MKS2020> hehe, it can wait right now we’re fixing this issue with runcmd: "awk  '/^AuthorizedKeysFile/ {print $2}' /etc/ssh/sshd_config | xargs dirname | xargs chmod 755" in our code but it really hard to use our own AMIs across different accounts and departments :)
[14:36] <gnulnx> meena: https://gist.github.com/kylejohnson/e44a1d72b634dd7fade4fc830f2a7ae6 is what I have
[14:36] <MKS2020> meena: yep, i’m at the middle of https://ubuntu.com/legal/contributors/agreement now
[14:37] <meena> MKS2020: oh. that was simpler than i thought… also: can you show us your cloud-init config that let's you do / break that? (as a comment to PR perhaps)
[14:38] <MKS2020> meena: ok, i’ll describe steps to reproduce a bug
[14:40] <MKS2020> meena: what should i write in `Please add the Canonical Project Manager or contact` ?
[14:40] <meena> MKS2020: that would be powersj
[14:44] <meena> gnulnx: we don't even capture if anything goes wrong in the installer: https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/blob/master/cloudinit/config/cc_chef.py#L308
[14:44] <meena> gnulnx: so, i'd start by toggling that Flag, and seeing if you get more useful output.
[14:45] <gnulnx> Just toggle Capture and re-run?
[14:47] <meena> gnulnx: set capture=True; run cloud-init clean --logs --reboot ; and enjoy the show
[14:50] <gnulnx> thank ya
[14:51] <gnulnx> I've been doing rm -rf sem; cloud-init -d single --name chef
[14:51] <gnulnx> Would that get me (close to) the same result?
[14:54] <gnulnx> meena: https://gist.github.com/kylejohnson/1a157062f1bccc7106e9de2ed5cd639e
[14:55] <gnulnx> That's interesting.  It doesn't like any of my cef keys
[14:55] <MKS2020> meena: i’ve submited agreement and added steps to reproduce into MR. Let me know if some information is needed/missed from my side.
[19:02] <meena> 15:51 <gnulnx> Would that get me (close to) the same result? ⬅ no. clean nukes /var/lib/cloud-init and /run/cloud-init
[19:09] <meena> https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/modules.html#chef this documentation seems to be incomplete, and, confusing
[19:19] <gnulnx> meena: Yeah, that's what I found too.  The documentation doesn't look up to date.
[19:22] <meena> gnulnx: which version are you on, btw?
[19:23] <gnulnx> meena: 19.3-41
[19:24] <meena> let's open… at least one bug, gnulnx .
[19:27] <gnulnx> Oh what's that?
[19:27] <gnulnx> So I added `validation_name: test` and it actually installed chef this time
[19:28] <gnulnx> Installed, daemonized and forked
[19:55] <meena> gnulnx: so that's that then
[20:03] <gnulnx> yup


[00:22] <bkerensa> slangasek: A debian maintainer replied to my multiarch bug report
[00:22] <bkerensa> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=651029
[00:22] <lubotu1`> Debian bug 651029 in src:audiofile "Please enable multiarch/hardening" [Normal,Open]
[00:22] <bkerensa> what exactly is he asking?
[00:25] <kees> bkerensa: moritz is just pointing out that by doing compat level 9, it would gain compiler hardening flags too (a good thing, and another release goal)
[00:26] <bkerensa> kees: ahh :)
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[17:10] <murder> please setup Ubuntu member cloak for me, my launchpad is https://launchpad.net/~mdiniz
[17:11] <TheLordOfTime> only ubuntu members get cloaks.
[17:11] <TheLordOfTime> !membership | murder, you should read this about membership first
[17:12] <murder> I'm a member of Ubuntu Brazilian Documentation team for the past 2-3 years.
[17:12] <murder> Also Brazilian Translation Team.
[17:13] <TheLordOfTime> IdleOne, i've got to go replace a fuse, can you help murder here?
[17:13] <TheLordOfTime> or any other IRCC to help them understand what they need to do to get membership/cloak
[17:14] <TheLordOfTime> murder, those teams arent part of the Ubuntu Members team, membership in Ubuntu Members is different than just being a member in those teams, although if you apply you might have a shot at becoming an Ubuntu Member
[17:14] <TheLordOfTime> (everything's explained in that link)
[17:17] <murder> I understand that my membership request is going to the IRC Council, yes?
[17:17] <TheLordOfTime> no, i think you have to go via membership boards.
[17:17] <TheLordOfTime> but i'm not a pro with the membership stuff
[17:18] <TheLordOfTime> and most of the people who could explain it better seem to be dead/afk/not here
[17:19] <IdleOne> murder: You would apply via the membership boards @ vhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards please make sure to read the information @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership and complete all the steps prior to applying.
[17:21] <murder> If Launchpad Brazilian Documentation Team (being part of various translation strings) and Ubuntu Brazilian Documentation Team doesnt count, I shall not go forward then.
[17:21] <TheLordOfTime> murder, they count for contributions
[17:21] <TheLordOfTime> if you apply for membership via the membership board and show your contributions via those teams you'll be fine.
[17:22] <murder> thank you.
[17:22] <TheLordOfTime> being on a translations team or a docuomentation team isn't automembership, you still have to apply via the membership boards.
[17:22] <murder> nah, was worried that it wouldnt count, thats all.
[17:22] <TheLordOfTime> ...
[17:22] <TheLordOfTime> you need to read the definition of the word "contribution" then.
[17:22] <IdleOne> murder: those teams do count towards contribution to the Ubuntu community. But being part of those teams does not garantee Ubuntu Membership. All Ubuntu members go through the same application process.
[17:23] <TheLordOfTime> what idleone said
[17:23] <murder> yeah, I understood.
[17:23] <murder> Thanks.
[17:23] <IdleOne> Welcome, look forward to reviewing your application :)
[17:24]  * TheLordOfTime returns to bug triaging