[00:00] <BinarySavior> i noticed pandas is taking forever to build wheel
[00:01] <BinarySavior> could it be because my gpu is not being used?
[00:01] <BinarySavior> i did lshw -C and it said my video card is unclaimed
[00:01] <BinarySavior> it's using onboard card (on a laptop)
[00:01] <BinarySavior> it's nvidia geforce gtx 1080 ti
[00:16] <ash_worksi> in regards to getrlimit, what's a resource limit? like the number of users that can use a resource in parallel?
[00:18] <ash_worksi> continuing to read the `man` it looks like the amount of memory a resource can consume
[00:18] <ash_worksi> I guess
[00:43] <rfm> ash_worksi, it's the limit of how much of several resources a process may use.  The "ulimit -a" shell command will list them with names and current limits.
[01:14] <DarkTrick> After upgrade 21.04 -> 21.10 I can't update my system with error "systemd is not configured yet"
[01:14] <DarkTrick> how can I "configure" systemd, then?
[01:16] <sarnold> DarkTrick: try dpkg --configure -a   and see if that does the trick
[01:16] <Bashing-om> DarkTrick: Try ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure systemd ' .
[01:17] <DarkTrick> sarnold, prints many errors
[01:17] <DarkTrick> Bashing-om, systemd is broken or not fully installed
[01:18] <DarkTrick> First error with "-a" is installed systemd package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 127
[01:18] <DarkTrick> full output of --configure -a: https://pastebin.com/AnVB5zJv
[01:18] <Bashing-om> sarnold: So next up is to show us in a pastebin the output of ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade '.
[01:20] <Bashing-om> !info systemd impish
[01:26] <DarkTrick> Hm... apparently this is a problem: `systemd-machine-id-setup: error while loading shared libraries: libsystemd-shared-247.so`
[01:26] <DarkTrick> How come it's not in the repos?
[01:29] <sarnold> DarkTrick: because the ...-247 version comes from hirsute https://packages.ubuntu.com/hirsute/amd64/systemd/filelist -- impish will have a -248 version: https://packages.ubuntu.com/impish/amd64/systemd/filelist
[01:29] <Bashing-om> DarkTrick: Yukkie - it is ....248 that the kernel is looking for: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libsystemd-shared&mode=filename&suite=impish&arch=any .
[01:30] <DarkTrick> so why would my system try to get 247?
[01:31] <DarkTrick> From what I see (almost no packages upgraded), it looks like the system hangs in a state between 21.04 and 10: some parts think they are 21.04 (systemd) and some parts think 21.10
[01:31] <sarnold> how did you start this upgrade?
[01:32] <DarkTrick> sudo do-release-upgrade
[01:32] <sarnold> okay, fear number one handled..
[01:32] <DarkTrick> btw. `apt install libsystemd-shared` says "unable to locate"
[01:32] <sarnold> yeah, that library is directly in the systemd package
[01:33] <DarkTrick> sarnold, I tried GUI before, but that opened and then closed again without any information what was going on
[01:33] <sarnold> as is the systemd-machine-id-setup command
[01:33] <DarkTrick> what's the best way to recover from this?
[01:34] <Bashing-om> DarkTrick: Might try ' sudo apt install --reinstall systemd ' ??
[01:35] <DarkTrick> Bashing-om, "E: Internal Error, No file name for systemd:amd64"
[01:35] <sarnold> ow
[01:35] <sarnold> DarkTrick: okay, how about ls -l /bin/systemd-machine-id-setup /usr/bin/systemd-machine-id-setup
[01:35] <DarkTrick> sarnold, shows 2 files: /bin/systemd... and /usr/bin/systemd...
[01:36] <sarnold> DarkTrick: are they exactly the same or are they different?
[01:36] <sarnold> actually, ls -li would be better
[01:36] <DarkTrick> sarnold, first number is size?
[01:36] <DarkTrick> then they are diffferent
[01:37] <DarkTrick>  /bin is 1709030, while /usr/bin is 876513
[01:37] <DarkTrick> also... /usr/bin is from march this year, while /bin is from october
[01:38] <DarkTrick> march -> may
[01:38] <sarnold> DarkTrick: I wonder if you're missing this symlink:
[01:38] <sarnold> ± ls -ld /bin
[01:38] <sarnold> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Apr 10  2019 /bin -> usr/bin
[01:39] <DarkTrick> `ls -ld /bin` shows /bin as a directory, not symlink to usr/bin
[01:40] <sarnold> man, this isn't going to be fun to untangle. I hate usrmerge so much.
[01:40] <DarkTrick> how can this even happen?
[01:40] <DarkTrick> I can't remember manually playing around in that area :/
[01:42] <sarnold> DarkTrick: so, I *think* the best route forward is going to be to edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/systemd.postinst by hand, find the line systemd-machine-id-setup, comment it out, and try the dpkg --configure -a  step again. there's a handful more systemd commands further on in that file :( it might still give trouble.. but this is a quick easy thing
[01:44] <DarkTrick> sarnold, looks better
[01:45] <DarkTrick> sarnold, still can't find libsystemd-shared, but other errors did not occur: https://pastebin.com/t2X4PgCh
[01:45] <DarkTrick> upgrade of packages starts now
[01:46] <DarkTrick> sarnold, I guess in the long run, I should make /bin a symlink to /usr/bin ?
[01:48] <sarnold> DarkTrick: here's a similar debian bug report .. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=945582  .. the advice there is a bit hard to convey..
[01:49] <sarnold> (And I don't know if the advice is valid for ubuntu, or still valid two years later!)
[01:50] <noj> hi all am having trouble getting a kindle to show up when connected via usb to a Ubuntu 21.10 desktop. tried different cords looking for trust settings on the kindle and different ports. Nothing show lsusb either
[01:51] <sarnold> DarkTrick: can you file a bug on this, ubuntu-bug systemd -- I'm surprised this showed up like this..
[01:59] <DarkTrick> sarnold, Could you take a look at this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1938065  Does it look like it's what's happened to me?
[02:00] <sarnold> DarkTrick: yeah, that looks pretty similar
[02:00] <DarkTrick> sarnold, do you think the usrmerge command is save?
[02:00] <sarnold> "This was a byproduct of a incomplete usrmerge" indeed feels like my conclusion, or maybe "not started" or something similar..
[02:00] <sarnold> DarkTrick: probably not, no
[02:05] <DarkTrick> sarnold, what you said sounded like /bin should indeed be a symlink to /usr/bin (and according to the net, /lib -> /usr/lib as well). I.e. that was the problem in the first place? So I would guess this is going to hit me again at the next upgrade? So in the long run, I would have to run usrmerge at some point?
[02:08] <sarnold> DarkTrick: I'm not sure -- I just don't know enough about all this. the advice in that debian bug is to hand-delete the 'wrong' executables, leftovers from the old systemd package, that weren't properly replaced by the upgrade
[02:08] <sarnold> DarkTrick: but I don't know a fast way / good way / reliable way to do this. all I can think of is a very slow and frustrating manual check for all these things..
[02:09] <DarkTrick> sarnold, At least my system seemed to have upgraded for now. Thank you very much for that!
[02:10] <DarkTrick> Also, thank you Bashing-om for the involvement!
[02:10] <sarnold> DarkTrick: oh! actually, the error output from your upgrade here gave us a few good candidates :)
[02:11] <Bashing-om> DarkTrick: Has my interest :D
[02:12] <sarnold> DarkTrick: try ls -li /bin/journalctl /usr/bin/journalctl /bin/systemd-tmpfiles /usr/bin/systemd-tmpfiles  -- chances are good, all four files are different, and two of them are significantly older than the other two
[02:14] <DarkTrick> sarnold, older: yes, different: difficult to explain:: https://pastebin.com/0LEnURJN
[02:15] <DarkTrick> ah.. the sign "月" means month
[02:15] <sarnold> lucky that's easy enough to guess :) hehe
[02:15] <sarnold> DarkTrick: I think, move /usr/bin/journalctl and /usr/bin/systemd-tmpfiles out of the way
[02:15] <DarkTrick> sarnold, ie `rm`?
[02:16] <sarnold> (the advice in the debian bug is to just delete them, but that seems like a Big Step :)
[02:16] <sarnold> hehe
[02:16] <sarnold> I was thinking mv /usr/bin/journalctl /usr/bin/journalctl.deleteme and mv /usr/bin/systemd-tmpfiles /usr/bin/systemd-tmpfiles.deleteme
[02:17] <DarkTrick> lol, exactly what I was thinking :D
[02:17] <DarkTrick> "deleteme"
[02:19] <sarnold> :D
[02:21] <DarkTrick> sarnold, I don't understand the involvement of journalctl in all this. To me this looks like just one example out of many (?)
[02:21] <DarkTrick> (As the debian report says "search for duplicates and remove them"
[02:22] <Kuleshov> https://dchub.one Welcome to International Advanced Direct Connect Hub with Encryption Security and Unicode support.
[02:24] <sarnold> DarkTrick: yeah, that's probably the right thing to do
[02:25] <hard87> hi
[02:25] <DarkTrick> sarnold, is that what usrmerge is supposed to do as well?
[02:26] <sarnold> DarkTrick: I"m not sure, but that command scares me. I don't know if it's the right thing to do, or not.
[02:26] <DarkTrick> k
[02:27] <hard87> how this work
[02:29] <hard87> someone from Brasil?
[02:32] <DarkTrick> sarnold, judging from https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/usrmerge it seems exactly like that
[02:32] <DarkTrick> sarnold, however one thing, you mentioned a symlink from /bin to /usr/bin (not single executables).
[02:32] <DarkTrick> Does your system has that symlink?
[02:33] <sarnold> DarkTrick: https://termbin.com/f5r2r
[02:34] <DarkTrick> sarnold, thanks
[04:03] <tsujp> so i can see information on how to change touchpad sensitivity with Synaptics, but I have ubuntu with libinput
[04:04] <tsujp> How do I make my touchpad less sensitive to clicks? Right now it registers even the lightest touch as a click which is annoying to say the least
[04:06] <sarnold> tsujp: try "xinput list" to get the list of your devices
[04:08] <sarnold> tsujp: and then do something like: xinput list-props "Synaptics TM3289-021"
[04:08] <sarnold> but replace my device string with your device string
[04:08] <sarnold> sadly I don't know where to find out what these properties *mean*
[04:08] <tsujp> But that's if i use synaptics, which I don't
[04:08] <sarnold> hopefully whatever device you do have will have properties that you can set
[04:08] <tsujp> sarnold that is if I use Synaptics. I use libinput
[04:09] <sarnold> tsujp: yes, I also use libinput.
[04:09] <sarnold> tsujp: please pretend I didn't copy-paste my device name :)
[04:10] <tsujp> sarnold http://ix.io/3Hk2
[04:12] <tsujp> thats the output for xinput list-props 25
[04:12] <sarnold> tsujp: nice nice.. promising. this next thing is a *guess*..
[04:13] <sarnold> xinput set-prop 'Apple Inc. Magic Trackpad 2' 'libinput Click Method Enabled' '1, 0'
[04:14] <sarnold> that '1, 0' is my guess -- I think the '1, 1' on the libinput Click Methods Available line mean that there's two different methods that you can try, and currently "0, 1" is selecting the second one. So I'm hoping "1, 0" will select the first one, and I'm hoping it's more useful.
[04:15] <tsujp> the command that worked is `xinput set-prop 'Apple Inc. Magic Trackpad 2' 327 1 0`
[04:15] <tsujp> time will tell if it was the correct thing to do
[04:16] <sarnold> tsujp: sweet; I had bad luck with the numbers on my own system, they seemed to move around in ways I can't recall now :( that's how I got to use the long strings instead
[04:16] <sarnold> tsujp: but you don't immediately hate it?
[04:16] <tsujp> why did you go for Click Method Enabled? Nah I don't immediately hate it
[04:16] <tsujp> im pressing pretty hard (wihtout clicking) and it's not thinking im clicking which is good
[04:17] <tsujp> and when I do click it doesn't think im click-dragging which is good
[04:17] <sarnold> tsujp: ah that's a good question. I wasn't sure about click vs tapping either, but 'click' seemed a bit clsoer to what you were after
[04:17] <tsujp> cos I quickly snap my hand onto the touchpad which is closer than a mouse, but it thinking I am clicking or click-dragging in the past makes it.. yeah annoying af as mentioned hehe
[04:17] <sarnold> *nod*
[04:18] <tsujp> many thanks for the help
[05:20] <fmkrs> how should i fix Ubuntu's apt and dpkg to recognize that depends are already met, because since the ubuntu naming schemes are **different** from the real names and hence version checking Fails on certain packages, and gd forbid you install a package it thinks doesnt have the depends cause it locks all installing of any packages until you manually get dkpg to uninstall said package you needed...?
[05:24] <fmkrs> example i am in an emergency where (Ubuntu) nemo decided to NOT unmount or unlock or whatever the patition i fetched a file from, then told it too unmount then waited 2 minutes to run clonezilla, and then it decided the partition  was doing something and then damaged that file system...so NOW i really need wxhexeditor or anything like HxD to fetch and fix the partition table **without** erasing the partion uuid on disk
[05:25] <Bashing-om> !pin | fmkrs This help ?
[05:25] <fmkrs> apt update, and all that and still it refuses to let me installing any usable hex editor i am so mad, this is the second time i needed a package that it refuses to understand the depends are already installed
[05:26] <fmkrs> le package is in sympaptget its from the ubuntu's own repo
[05:28] <fmkrs> try wxhexeditor Depends: libdisasm0 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libmhash2 (>=<IP_ADDRESS>) but it is not installable  Depends: libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-0v5 but it is not going to be installed
[05:30] <fmkrs> also
[05:30] <fmkrs> wxmedit
[05:30] <fmkrs> now it wont even let me see it
[05:36] <fmkrs> wxmedit says dependaccy not satisfiable libcurl3-nss (>=7.23.1) if i look then i see that infact version 7.68.0-1ubuntu2.7   IS installed! ubunutu has lied to it self i am so mad. i have no idaea  how to fix this or  what to even look up. why does apt and or dpkg do this instanty??
[05:36] <fmkrs> here simple see i have proof
[05:36] <fmkrs> 7.68.0 > 7.23.1
[05:36] <fmkrs> and i am on 20 lts
[05:40] <Bashing-om> !info libcurl3-nss | focal
[05:40] <fmkrs> pinning Bashing-om does not seem to be the solution, the system is already set up to be lts 20,
[05:42] <fmkrs> le sigh how do i force it to do a name conversion from actuallibname-version-ubuntu to actuallibname-version to understand that depend already exists??
[05:42] <fmkrs> there should be rationally speaking some system wide thing to do such a task yes???
[05:43] <fmkrs> linux people surly do not expect users to make fake packages for all this brokeness?
[05:44] <Bashing-om> !info wxmedit focal | fmkrs
[05:44] <Bashing-om> !info libcurl3-nss focal
[06:22] <United_Kingdumb> brits r so gay
[06:24] <fmkrs> says to use deb command but there is no deb command on my ubuntu, why am i being lied too https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/amd64/libcurl3-nss/download
[06:25] <United_Kingdumb> !ops
[06:26] <United_Kingdumb> !ops !ops !ops
[06:26] <United_Kingdumb> !ops HELP
[06:26] <shadow255> fmkrs: that's not a command line thing - it's a line you need in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:26] <United_Kingdumb> !ops
[06:26] <United_Kingdumb> !ops
[06:26] <United_Kingdumb> snupples: WELCOME TO THE GAY BUTT BUDDIES CHANNEL OF ENGLAND
[06:27] <fmkrs> nvm i cat it the line into it..okay so is deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-security main going to mess up since it  had deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-security universe instead ?
[06:28] <shadow255> fmkrs: it's only adding another repo source, it will not affect the previously-existing one
[06:28] <fmkrs> =)  i wish ubuntu or X could render ttf fonts correctly, reading is strenuous..
[06:31] <United_Kingdumb> gay nigger detected
[06:31] <United_Kingdumb> fmkrs have you considered joining the GNAA?
[06:32] <United_Kingdumb> seeing as how you're so interested in my testicles?
[06:32] <United_Kingdumb> you PMed me about testicles didn't you?
[06:33] <Welcum2Africka> fmkrs likes balls
[06:33] <fmkrs> only the freshest.
[06:34] <fmkrs> on a silver platter
[07:02] <klausfiend> this, uh, seems a little unprofessional an exchange
[07:09] <fmkrs> finnally got it to work byt adding main repos additional to universe, god help me if it explodeds
[07:51] <doofenshmirtz> hi, I am new to Ubuntu. I was wondering why `su -` doesn't make me root.
[07:56] <geirha> doofenshmirtz: because the root use does not have a password. Use sudo instead
[07:58] <doofenshmirtz> root not having a password is ubuntu specific?
[07:58] <doofenshmirtz> this is weird
[07:59] <geirha> !root | doofenshmirtz
[08:01] <doofenshmirtz> yeah, `sudo su -` works. I understand, but I have not seen this in my other distro.
[08:02] <doofenshmirtz> also, what will `sudo passwd root` do?
[08:02] <geirha> No point in using both sudo and su.   sudo -i  to get a root login shell
[08:03] <tomreyn> it would set a root password
[08:03] <doofenshmirtz> and then `su -` will work?
[08:04] <tomreyn> yes, but then you'll be working in a way that's no longer how ubuntu recommends it
[08:05] <tomreyn> restricted users, with passwords, some of which can gain root via sudo, is how ubuntu recommends it
[08:05] <tomreyn> well there are also restricted users without passwords, of course, specifically system users
[08:11] <doofenshmirtz> ok then
[08:15] <freeman> hi
[08:17] <EriC^^> hello
[08:18] <freeman> where are you from?
[08:20] <EriC^^> lebanon
[08:20] <EriC^^> !offtopic | freeman
[08:23] <fmkrs> you can change the root password with the shadow file doofenshmirtz and this is a mysterious thing. I su instead of sudo, and there is away to clear the password so it's blank.
[08:25] <fmkrs> even IF you login as root, many ubuntu things expect you to be a user and they do the password popup bs such as the package manager, it will still try to gain root perms this way even if you are root logged in, and so the annoyance will still be a factor
[08:26] <doofenshmirtz> Ubuntu works very different from other Linux distros.
[08:27] <doofenshmirtz> the Ubuntu way is to avoid being the root and use sudo for everything.
[08:27] <klausfiend> no, not in this way.
[08:27] <klausfiend> that's been the standard way for RHEL derivatives for some time as well
[08:28] <fmkrs> doofenshmirtz, i suggest googleing/binging "ubuntu adding user to the wheel" and "remove password from /etc/shadow file"
[08:28] <klausfiend> using the root account specifically vs. sudo is generally frowned upon these days as it muddies the audit trail and forces multiple admins to maintain a shared secret
[08:29] <doofenshmirtz> oh. now I see why.
[08:30] <doofenshmirtz> never used RHEL or it's childern.
[08:30] <fmkrs> it's frowned upon by globalist companies, and they intern supply collages with $$ to make their curriculum fit the humans as a robot in a cubical motif. not being root is being in a box.
[08:31] <doofenshmirtz> yeah, I agree.
[08:31] <fmkrs> there are to many annoying things I have to do to get ubuntu to work that require simple file edits, a copy or paste here, etc. but like i said most programs aren't root aware so if u wanna login as root, u'll need to mess with the shawdow file...they will still nag u
[08:33] <fmkrs> su and the su app on android makes the most sense, you have a lsit of auto granted root perms no nag screens and u can see what has it and doesn't, full controls...
[08:33] <doofenshmirtz> what? you can `su -` in Android?
[08:33] <fmkrs> ubuntu with systemMD doesn't have a true root user login fyi, its kinda a fake one.
[08:33] <doofenshmirtz> wait let me check
[08:34] <fmkrs> yes if u root your phone ha!
[08:34] <p3rL> hi
[08:34] <fmkrs> yes?
[08:34] <p3rL> ufw is not blockingi p after deny still connected to port 80
[08:35] <doofenshmirtz> fmkrs, I just checked on my Galaxy. I cannot do be root.
[08:35] <p3rL> how can i block a IP ?
[08:36] <doofenshmirtz> are there phones that allow you to be root. Samsung apparently doesn't. How can I find the root password on Android?
[08:37] <fmkrs> allow??? like i said about the walmart-esk, ma-bell, ibms of the world? not out of the box, search XDA forums.
[08:37] <fmkrs> to block an IP like from a browser? or with in a router? p3rL
[08:38] <p3rL> im tryin to block this ip
[08:38] <p3rL> [ 1] Anywhere                   DENY IN     <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:38] <p3rL> but still its connected
[08:38] <p3rL> even i have added my own ip and i can connect to SSH
[08:38] <fmkrs> i wold suggest a hosts file type of blocking that way the dns record will get denied or spoofed to a blackhole
[08:39] <klausfiend> honestly you should use multiple approaches if you really need to keep a rogue client out
[08:39] <klausfiend> fail2ban is also helpful in situations like this
[08:40] <doofenshmirtz> this is not good. I buy phone with my own money. device belongs to me. and I cannot root. doesn't make sense. if ASUS, DELL or HP did that, people will be up with pitchforks.
[08:40] <klausfiend> the OS is not the device
[08:40] <klausfiend> sudo su -
[08:40] <klausfiend> if you really want to set a root password, just "passwd root" like always
[08:41] <klausfiend> and learn which files you need to modify to authorize direct root access via the console and/or SSH
[08:44] <fmkrs> doofenshmirtz, i feel you, glad you awake. search XDA for an exploit to root, and or custom recovery like TWRP
[08:44] <fmkrs> god help you if u have a unisoc soc cpu...
[08:45] <fmkrs> and then u can make use to ubuntu (on topic) to use the lastest adb and fastboot wooo!
[08:46] <doofenshmirtz> fmkrs, I don't think I have never needed to root on my Galaxy. Doesn't seem like useful feature.
[08:46] <fmkrs> p3rL, hate to say have you told the thing to reboot so that <IP_ADDRESS> is forced to reconnect so that where upon it will get denied?
[08:46] <doofenshmirtz> I just tried being root (in Termux) out of curiosity.
[08:47] <p3rL> fmkrs ufw insert 1 deny from x.x.x.x to any < and then ufw restart ... but im still able to connect from that ip
[08:48] <fmkrs> doofenshmirtz, yes yes yes until your fave chat or app or game stops working cause you need updated ca certs and you refuse to put a pin in your phone, or perhaps you want to debloat everything, or worse case you need to recovery with a broken screen and digitzer leaving with adb via the custom recovery you installed...
[08:49] <fmkrs> p3rL,idk what thingy it is u are using....may i suggest if it is a router to use a MAC filter block
[08:50] <p3rL> its blocking the ip but not blocking the connected sessions
[08:50] <fmkrs> i block "ip"s via ubound dns running dietpi, a Debian spin
[08:51] <fmkrs> oh ssh doesnt use port 80? what about all the ports?
[08:51] <doofenshmirtz> fmkrs, yeah. you mentioned three cases and I fall into two of them. I don't put PIN on my phone. And I want get rid of some apps that I don't use but they are not uninstallable. I think I should root.
[08:51] <fmkrs> i got no idea p3rL sorry blind leading the bline
[08:52] <fmkrs> and if you are COOL doofenshmirtz Xpose frame work....
[08:53] <doofenshmirtz> does Samsung still provide upgrades if I root and what about warranty
[08:53] <Guest55> hi all "source code pro" font not in repo?
[08:53] <fmkrs> i dunna know. if u root it u can alway unroot it of u have to turn it in
[08:55] <fmkrs> ota updates may clear off the SU binary, they may clear off magisk, but then u can put it on again
[08:56] <fmkrs> can some one explain why an program that lags in ubuntu will lag the entire OS?
[09:00] <doofenshmirtz> what Xpose, fmkrs ?
[09:00] <Guest55> hi all "source code pro" font not in repo?
[09:04] <klausfiend> it might not be in stable / testing if it's not GPL
[09:04] <klausfiend> you may need to add universe to your apt sources
[09:04] <KBar> Guest55, hey. You can check that from here: packages.ubuntu.com
[09:05] <klausfiend> but tbh i don't look at fonts much so that's only a suggestion
[09:06] <KBar> Guest55: what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[09:07] <Guest55> KBar impish
[09:07] <KBar> A quick apt search gives me this package: fonts-hack.
[09:07] <KBar> I don't know if it has that font, worth checking.
[09:08] <KBar> But I'm on impish.
[09:08] <KBar> whoops
[09:08] <KBar> I meant focal
[09:08] <Guest55> https://packages.ubuntu.com/impish/all/fonts-hack/filelist
[09:10] <fmkrs> doofenshmirtz, you could after gaining root powers via sudo, edit /etc/shadow delete the hash of root's password, make it like this root::18410:0:99999:7:::
[09:11] <Guest55> thanks KBar hack fonts and source code pro fonts similar maybe i will use hack fonts
[09:12] <KBar> Guest55: it's actually available from Google: https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Source+Code+Pro#license
[09:12] <KBar> Click on Download family.
[09:13] <KBar> And follow the instructions.
[09:14] <fmkrs> =D i use lucida console that i merged with code2000 + tiberus cyberbit + CJK fonts to gain most of the possible glyps.
[10:06] <nikolam> Why Ubuntu ZFS implementation is not finding drive if it's device name gets changed? On other platforms using OpenZFS it seems it is not depending on device name at all?
[10:07] <nikolam> How I could refresh zfs 'cache file' on zpool import so that it would recognize drive that has device name changed?
[10:08] <nikolam> And why I even have this problem, when ZFS is made to recognize it's drives wherever they are plugged in and whatever they are named... ?
[10:35] <weedmic> if i do "parted>select /dev/sda p" it will list every partition - correct?  even if some are not linux?  I'm trying to ensure I am using the entire HDD and that someone didn't leave some windoze partition on there.
[10:39] <klausfiend> easier to do `parted /dev/sda print`
[10:39] <klausfiend> but yes
[10:42] <weedmic> p is print
[10:42] <weedmic> ty
[12:05] <Abdullah> hello
[12:23] <VIA> hi all i been through all xfce settings multiple times and i cand for the life of me where toset DPI
[12:23] <VIA> what am i missing/doing wrong?
[12:26] <eva432> Hot Chat
[12:26] <eva432> 👇
[12:26] <eva432> https://rebrand.ly/privado_chat
[12:32] <KBar> VIA: Appearance > Fonts
[12:32] <KBar> Default is 96.
[12:34] <KBar> VIA, or Settings Editor > xsettings channel > Xft/DPI property
[13:08] <VIA> cant find "appearance" where is it, KBar ẞ
[13:14] <VIA> k found it KBar. not in the settings id like it to be in but it works. thx!
[13:20] <KBar> VIA, are you on Xubuntu 20.04?
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:48] <farkaan> What's a good "hardware information" _GUI_ utility for Ubuntu? A friend I helped switch to ubuntu recently wants something that'll show him all the information (including temperature sensors and such) like windows tools (probably) do
[13:54] <KBar> farkaan, lshw-gtk might be worth checking out.
[13:54] <farkaan> KBar: I'll take a look, thanks
[13:55] <KBar> farkaan, for sensors, sensors-applet, but
[13:55] <KBar> I'm not sure how it works.
[13:55] <farkaan> I found this thing called hardinfo, I'm checking it out on my debian box right now
[13:58] <farkaan> KBar: lshw-gtk seems to work okay but the ux is a bit iffy, I can't change the width of the panes so I can't see what I'm actually clicking on (1440p monitor)
[14:03] <KBar> farkaan, yeah, someone who's used to W-word probably wouldn't like it.
[14:04] <farkaan> Yeah seems like this hardinfo tool is okay
[14:04] <farkaan> I mean I'd much rather use inxi myself but it's hard to make regular people learn command line tools
[14:04] <KBar> Us *nix folks just prefer to just type in a couple of commands and go on with out lives.
[14:05] <KBar> Exactly.
[14:05] <farkaan> GNOME's about should show temperature imo but then again they probably want to keep things as /minimal/ as possible
[14:06] <KBar> farkaan: there is also a clone of CPU-z. worth looking into https://ubunlog.com/en/cpu-x-conoce-hardware-equipo/
[14:06] <KBar> Bonus points for being AppImage
[16:12] <pycode> hello everybody
[16:12] <pycode> what tool can i use to erase a disk completly?
[16:12] <pycode> i have an nvme and one ssd
[16:13] <pycode> i would like to wipe the drive completly
[16:14] <KBar> pycode GNOME Disks (called Disks), gparted, good old dd.
[16:17] <pycode> thanks KBar
[16:17] <KBar> from a security stand-point, overwriting data with zeros or garbage is preferred
[16:17] <pycode> KBar, can i do that with gnome disk ?
[16:18] <KBar> what, overwrite with zeros/random noise?
[16:19] <pycode> KBar, i basically would like to put the disk in the same conditions when i bought it :)
[16:19] <pycode> is that possible or something close to it
[16:20] <orange1> gparted
[16:22] <imi> https://ibb.co/PrGXWDc -- is there a way to toggle that switch from commandline (settings->privacy->screen locking->lock screen automatically (on/off))?
[16:22] <pycode> orange1, ok but, can i then create a ext4 partition and...that's it ?
[16:22] <orange1> yes
[16:24] <KBar> imi, i dont use GNOME but it should be under gsettings's domain
[16:24] <pycode> ok
[16:24] <KBar> imi, `gsettings list-recursively | grep PATTERN`
[16:25] <KBar> Pattern being your guess as to what it might be called
[16:26] <KBar> try with lock first
[16:27] <KBar> imi: after that, run 'gsettings set path.to.gschema PROPERTY true|false` if the PROPERTY is indeed a bool
[16:38] <imi> KBar: that helped a lot, thanks, I diffed gsettings list-recursively now I know it's org.gnome.desktop.screensaver lock-enabled true
[16:39] <imi> is it sufficient to just toggle it using gsettings? will changing this property take effect immediately?
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> imi: yes, gsettings changes right away
[16:41] <imi> so it gets applied right away and I don't need to send a SIGHUP or anything?
[16:42] <imi> or service reload or whatever
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> well for the settings i tested on dconf-editor i never had to logout or reboot myself, not sure if all settings are
[16:44] <imi> ok thanks I'll try and see then
[16:49] <KBar> imi: no. nothing extra is needed. you just issue it and the gschema gets updated automatically
[16:54] <KBar> imi: and it also survives reboots. in other words, the changes are immediate, persistent and permanent until you change them back again
[16:58] <woenx> Hi. I'm using ubuntu 20.04, and now when I open gnome-terminal, instead of its logo, I see a blank logo in the panel. How could I fix that?
[16:59] <woenx> I think I caused that by creating a custom command that invoved gnome-terminal in a program and setting it by default for a file type
[17:00] <woenx> So, when I search gnome-terminal in the app drawer, it appears with its correct logo, but once I run it, the logo changes and shows that while gear wheel/generic icon
[17:00] <KBar> woenx, do you mean GNOME Terminal's logo?
[17:00] <KBar> A screenshot or two would help.
[17:00] <woenx> sure, wait a sec
[17:02] <woenx> https://i.imgur.com/lyxK3o5.png
[17:02] <woenx> So the first circled icon is gnome-terminal as it appears in the panel and in the app drawer
[17:02] <woenx> and the second icon is the icon I see once gnome-termina is running
[17:02] <woenx> they became dissociated
[17:03] <basedovertime> oh yeah, i see that, that's weird
[17:03] <KBar> woenx, care to share its desktop entry? Especially the Exec= field.
[17:03] <woenx> where can I find it?
[17:03] <KBar> woenx: should be in /usr/share/applications/org.gnome.Terminal.desktop
[17:04] <woenx> OK
[17:04] <KBar> did you edit that file?
[17:05] <woenx> Here
[17:05] <woenx> no, not manually at least
[17:05] <woenx> https://pastebin.com/q5Su4hFL
[17:05] <KBar> woenx: you said you created a custom command. How and where did you do that?
[17:06] <woenx> Ok, so in another program, Digikam, which is a photo organizer, there's an option to open a picture with another program (right click, open with...)
[17:06] <woenx> in that option, you can either select an existing program from the list, or you can type the command
[17:06] <KBar> Nah, that shouldn't be relevant.
[17:06] <woenx> so I wrote a command that started with gnome-terminal (and then called a simple sh script that I wrote)
[17:07] <woenx> and by accident, I set it by default to all jpg pictures
[17:07] <woenx> which was also set outside digikam
[17:07] <woenx> and that's when the problem appeared
[17:07] <KBar> woenx: okay, try undoing that. Go to Settings > Default Applications
[17:07] <woenx> (I restored the jpg association with the default picture viewer, but the "generic"icon in gnome-terminal stayed)
[17:08] <woenx> in Default applications, I see that for Photos, the Image Viewer is set as default
[17:08] <woenx> (I don
[17:09] <woenx> (I don't know if that's the exact name, my gnome is in another language)
[17:13] <KBar> woenx: hmm. that's strange
[17:14] <KBar> woenx: what's the output of `xdg-mime query default image/jpeg`
[17:14] <KBar> and `xdg-mime query default image/jpg`
[17:14] <woenx> org.gnome.eog.desktop
[17:14] <woenx> (for both)
[17:16] <KBar> woenx: can you `chmod -x` that script?
[17:16] <woenx> it already has execution permissions
[17:17] <KBar> undo it
[17:17] <woenx> ok
[17:18] <KBar> close active Digikam and Terminal windows and launch Terminal (from Activities)
[17:21] <woenx> what's "Activities"?
[17:22] <KBar> woenx: Super key.
[17:22] <woenx> Oh, yeah, it's the same, it opens with that white icon
[17:22] <woenx> and if I remove the shortcut from the panel, and add it again, it's the same
[17:22] <woenx> the shortcut has the correct icon, but once I click on it, it opens a separate "generic" icon
[17:24] <ioria> woenx, probably a local settings (i'd check ls ~/.local/share/applications/; a test would be with another user but first check   your .local directory for a .desktop file
[17:25] <woenx> aaahaaa, there's another gnome-terminal.desktop in there!
[17:25] <woenx> Yay, that was it
[17:25] <woenx> I renamed it, and now it recovered the right icon
[17:25] <ioria> woenx, good
[17:25] <woenx> somehow it created a .desktop called gnome-terminal that called that script
[17:25] <woenx> Thanks!!
[17:25] <ioria> yep
[17:25] <ioria> no prblem
[17:26] <KBar> ioria brilliantly done
[17:26] <ioria> KBar, tx
[18:26] <ttys000> hey guys, i was doing an upgrade but now it's stuck. any suggestions on what to do next? https://i.imgur.com/3dY2Iu5.png
[18:26] <ttys000> i have tried to press enter but nothing happens.
[18:26] <ttys000> i can connect again from a new ssh session but this one seems locked up
[18:27] <ttys000> in the new session i see in htop that the updater is still running (/usr/bin/python3 -s /tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-xhh3hnt1/focal ..._
[18:27] <alefir> delete the lock file it mentions
[18:30] <ttys000> `/var/lib/dpkg/lock` ?
[18:31] <ttys000> and then?
[18:33] <ioria> ttys000, ps aux | grep -i apt
[18:34] <ttys000> http://ix.io/3HnR
[18:36] <ioria> still running
[18:37] <ioria> ttys000, you might sudo kill -9 that process, run sudo dpkg --configure -a and full-upgrade the system ( if you're lucky)
[18:38] <ioria> ttys000,  sudo kill -9 952
[18:38] <ttys000> http://ix.io/3HnU
[18:38] <ttys000> sorry wrong paste
[18:38] <ttys000> http://ix.io/3HnU
[18:39] <ttys000> whoa, weird, it gave me the same ID, but this time the past is totally different
[18:39] <ttys000> man that paste site glitched i think
[18:40] <ioria> ttys000,  is this an '18.04 to 20.04' upgarde ?
[18:40] <ttys000> so do i need to fix these dpkg errors? or just sudo do-release-upgrade again?
[18:40] <ioria> *upgrade
[18:40] <ttys000> yes, 18.04 -> 20.04
[18:41] <ioria> ttys000,  sudo apt update
[18:41] <ttys000> http://ix.io/3HnV
[18:42] <ioria> ttys000,  sudo apt full-upgrade
[18:43] <ttys000> it's mad: http://ix.io/3HnW
[18:43] <ioria> ttys000,  sudo apt --fix-broken install
[18:44] <ttys000> k thanks. running that now...
[18:45] <ttys000> ok finished. now running full upgrade.
[18:48] <ttys000> ok thanks.
[18:48] <ttys000> seems to be sailing smoothly so far
[18:48] <ioria> ok
[18:48] <ttys000> cheers internet stranger, thanks for unf*cking my problem.
[18:53] <ttys000> is there anything that needs to be done after `sudo apt full-upgrade`
[18:53] <ttys000> and what is the difference between doing it that way and `sudo do-release-upgrade`
[18:58] <ioria> a bit long to explain: do-release-upgrade has failed, but sources.list had been already  changed; so you pretend to be on a 20.04 system and perform a simble upgrade
[18:58] <ioria> *simple
[19:02] <ttys000> ok makes sense. thanks.
[19:03] <ioria> ok
[19:33] <vershan> hi im running ubuntu 20.04. I changed my wireless card from atheros to intel only getting 1MB speed
[19:34] <vershan> do i need to  install correct drivers. after changing the network card the wifi connedted
[19:38] <vershan> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MJD3kHt3kf/
[20:27] <merpnderp> If I need a script to append a bunch of configs to sshd_config, would I just `echo myconfig >> /etc/ssh/sshd_config` is that the best way?
[20:27] <merpnderp> myconfig being a string.
[20:27] <merpnderp> Writing a giant script to get ubuntu to pass our security audit.
[20:28] <merpnderp> Does such a script already exist somewhere? this is a standard audit.
[20:28] <merpnderp> SecScan
[20:30] <sarnold> merpnderp: normally people will use things like ansible or chef or puppet to manage all the machines in their fleet, or use something like http://augeas.net/ (packaged in debian and ubuntu) to modify config files programmatically
[20:30] <sarnold> merpnderp: just appending stuff to config files is a quick way to break things, or make them work in unexpected ways
[21:14] <g3poandlsl> I have several laptops (all different models) with Ubuntu 18.04 that experience periodic connectivity (eth0) timeouts. I can't identify the pattern, but it occurs seemingly randomly after an hour, 35 min, or 10 minutes. Always on the same second according to logs.
[21:18] <sarnold> well that's wild
[21:19] <sarnold> I suggest using ethtool to disable powersaving features on your nics on the laptops, and using your switch's management interface to disable "port power saving" things there, too. adaptive power for wire length is probably fine, but some have "unused port power saving" things that I've heard cause problems
[21:24] <g3poandlsl> sarnold: thanks for the tip about ethtool and powersaving settings.  I should mention that these laptops previously did not experience this issue, but did after being wiped and Ubuntu 18.04 (later point release) reinstalled
[21:24] <Belgrad> Hi, what is the best alternative for Lubuntu (I have issues with screen resolution, resume on both suspend and hibernate, not being able to save nomodeset option properly, hibernate just shutting off the PC instead of hibernating it)?
[21:25] <Belgrad> Focal 20.04, but I ve upgraded it, so now the resolution screen appeared. I don t know what to do, this seems to be a hard problem.
[21:25] <Belgrad> Best regards and thanks in advance.
[21:27] <sarnold> g3poandlsl: oh interesting. I wonder if the newer HWE kernels busted something. You could try installing the original release kernel; we don't have any simple docs on that, I don't think, but a lot of the package names involved are on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[21:29] <g3poandlsl> sarnold: thanks, I was considering the later kernel might have been an issue. Is the OEM kernel any more "stable"?
[21:30] <sarnold> g3poandlsl: it might be better if it has drivers specifically for your system, yeah; I don't know any easy way to find out what extra it supports, though
[21:30] <Belgrad> Ah, I ll just delete Lubuntu, maybe Xubuntu will be better?
[21:30] <g3poandlsl> sarnold: thanks for your help with this
[21:31] <sarnold> Belgrad: probably not, they use the same kernel, X11, etc
[21:32] <Belgrad> Ah...Than which distro should I install? I am accustomed to Lubuntu, so I am looking Ubuntu distro minimal?
[21:32] <Belgrad> I am literally writting from the weird screen resolution.
[21:33] <Belgrad> Whatever command I give in Terminal, I get some dpkg blah blah, I have to manually do it, and I do not know what does that mean. I think I should try with the latest lubuntu image, maybe it will give a work?
[21:35] <sarnold> Belgrad: it's hard to give concrete advice without knowing what issues you're facing. maybe it's just a matter of troubleshooting each problem, one at a time, until you've got a working system again. maybe it's a matter of filing a bunch of bug reports with what you've got, and then going back to an older system that worked fine. maybe it's a matter of installing something newer and hoping it's all fixed.
[21:35] <sarnold> maybe it's switching to a different distribution entirely that's either not yet got these problems, or already solved these problems, depending..
[22:09] <devslash> when you do export DISPLAY=:0 what is :0 called ? is it a port that you are setting the value to What I asking is how you refer to the display you are binding to
[22:10] <klausfiend> in X11 lingo, :0 refers to the root display
[22:11] <klausfiend> e.g., your local desktop
[22:11] <klausfiend> it's basically [hostname]:<display>[.screen]
[22:11] <klausfiend> localhost:0 and :0 essentially refer to the same display
[22:38] <NeilRG> how do I use the bleeding edge gvim on ubuntu?
[22:44] <klausfiend> assuming someone has a PPA, i would add that, and install the gvim candidates from that repo instead of stable or testing
[23:07] <devios> I just installed LTS on an old laptop, and updated/upgraded to latest packages.  then I installed plexserver, then i installed xrdp, found xrdp didn't do what I expected/wanted after connecting from another system, and then removed xrdp.  sometime during that process, the terminal application (in gnome) stopped opening - like it would try to start up then stop.  when I rebooted, I ended up at a black screen with a small cursor in top left
[23:07] <devios> (gnome(?) not starting, not getting to logon page).  if i do control+alt+2, I can get to and log into a terminal outside of gnome and log in.  any ideas what happened and how to fix whatever I broke?
[23:07] <devios> wondering if installing xrdp hijacked/broke some part of the gui startup?
[23:13] <devios> control+alt+*f2


[06:14] <yoanis> hi there
[06:15] <yoanis> i just read about SRU
[06:15] <yoanis> and i want to help
[06:36] <persia> yoanis: if you happen to read the logs, we'd love to have your help, but might be slow responding at this time of day
[06:54] <ara> morning :-)
[08:22] <ApOgEE-> .google define:wtf
[08:23] <ApOgEE-> !google define:wtf
[08:24] <persia> Also, it's not ideal in this environment to use that abbreviation, and if you want to play with the bot, a /query might be the best place.
[08:29] <jpds>  /whois ubot5 - reveals all.
[08:48] <ApOgEE-> :D
[08:50] <jpds> persia: You have to admit, he has a sytlish hostname... :/
[08:51] <persia> jpds: For some value of "stylish".
[11:42] <ara> hello, one quick question, does anyone remember the command to get the candidate version of a package for all ubuntu versions???
[11:43] <ara> (also asking at ubuntu-motu)
[11:45] <persia> One place is usually sufficient, although it also depends on where people's eyes are :)
[11:46] <persia> (which may affect latency by a few minutes)
[16:17] <heno> davmor2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/DailySmoke suggests alternates are working again, is that right?
[16:17] <davmor2> yes
[16:17] <davmor2> brb
[16:18] <heno> cool, thanks
[16:21] <davmor2> heno: yes the alternatives started working again with 20080806.1 I think but I didn't find out till yesterday
[16:23] <heno> davmor2: ok great, thanks
[16:24] <davmor2> They all still have issues like usplash is temperamental and ndiswrapper doesn't work and other minor quirks but they install at least :)
[16:24] <davmor2> oh and mostly they are oversized which I believe slangasek is on
[16:24] <slangasek> they're mostly not oversized anymore... :)
[16:25] <davmor2> as I said I believed you were on it :)
[17:35] <cgregan> heno: ping
[17:36] <heno> hi cgregan
[17:37] <cgregan> heno: hello....I got an email from Intel about Launchpad
[17:38] <cgregan> heno: Can you see all of a bugs history from the web interface?
[17:38] <heno> cgregan: no, there are parts missing
[17:38] <cgregan> heno: Is there a script?
[17:38] <heno> that's a top wishlist item for the next updates of LP
[17:39] <heno> bdmurray may be able to extract what they need from the mailing lists
[17:39] <cgregan> heno: ok...thanks
[17:39] <heno> cgregan: are these public bugs?
[17:39] <cgregan> heno: they are public
[17:40] <heno> if so it should be on the mailings lists
[17:40] <heno> and so that should mostly work
[17:40] <bdmurray> cgregan: I should be able to help
[17:40] <cgregan> bdmurray: Thanks! Let me get a list of bugs
[17:40] <persia> cgregan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bugs?field.searchtext=Activity+log has a good list of the outstanding issues with activity, if you want to track them.
[17:41] <bdmurray> cgregan: what types of information are you looking for?
[17:42] <cgregan> bdmurray: Seeing the status changes and notes over time for a single bug #.
[17:44] <bdmurray> that should all be in the activity log then
[17:48] <cgregan> bdmurray: Excellent
[17:49] <cgregan> bdmurray: I have sent email to my Intel contact to get some numbers.
[17:55] <bdmurray> cgregan: cool, let me know if you need any assistance


[07:25] <Mirv> tsdgeos: according to autopkgtests it'd look like there might be trouble with qmluitests and Qt 5.6.1 (even though I think you already checked 5.6.0 earlier, maybe there's something small changed). just a heads up, as that would start causing trouble when Qt is landed to yakkety.
[08:17] <tsdgeos> Mirv: do you have a link?
[08:33] <Mirv> tsdgeos: https://is.gd/23KRRz
[08:35] <tsdgeos> Mirv: there's no fail! in there?
[08:36] <tsdgeos> ah it timed out
[08:36] <tsdgeos> Saviq: we had a test that times out from time to time do we?
[08:36]  * tsdgeos has slight memory
[08:36] <Saviq> tsdgeos, well, yeah, one of them gets stuck and britney times out on it
[08:37] <Saviq> it's 3 hours in so should be done by then indeed
[08:37] <Saviq> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/u/unity8/yakkety/amd64/ should be under 2h
[13:28] <dandrader> mterry_, ping
[13:30] <mterry_> dandrader, heyo!
[13:30] <dandrader> mterry, hi, could you please add https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/qtmir/removeDBusWindowStack/+merge/298256 to https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1575 . It shouldn't conflict anymore
[13:30] <mterry> dandrader, oh sure
[13:31] <mterry> dandrader, what about your removeApplicationStage branches?  They need to bump to VERSION=20 I think
[13:31] <dandrader> mterry, yeah, will do that now
[13:52] <wardster> hi guys , ive been running of a unity 8 desktop for a few days now and just wondering on the address book / calendar - on my phone and tablet i use syncevolution which pulls in contacts and calendar
[13:53] <wardster> but on the unity 8 desktop ive done the syn but nothing shows up - ive checked on address book and i cant select adddress book and calendar cant select and calendars... is there a plugin missing maybe on accounts to make this work?..
[13:53] <wardster> love unity 8 on the desktop its working great, bit fidgity yo get the all the apps i want but i got there in the end! :)
[14:18] <mterry> dandrader, removeDBusWindowStack conflicts with https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/qtmir/fix_memory_leak_application_test/+merge/297876 or https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/qtmir/tests-use-stack-instead-of-heap/+merge/298122
[14:27] <dandrader> mterry, no conflict between removeDBusWindowStack and fix_memory_leak_application_test. trying /tests-use-stack-instead-of-heap
[14:28] <mterry> dandrader, well I was guessing I guess.  There was a conflict in the file they both change.  It might have been one of the other branches?  But yeah, try the stack/heap one
[14:30] <dandrader> mterry, yeah, loads of conflicts between removeDBusWindowStack and tests-use-stack-instead-of-heap
[14:31] <dandrader> mterry, will rebase on top of it
[14:31] <mterry> thx
[14:51] <dandrader> greyback, need you to re-approve https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/qtmir/removeDBusWindowStack/+merge/301083 as I got it rebased
[14:51] <greyback> dandrader: ok
[14:51] <dandrader> mterry, conflix solved ^
[14:51] <dandrader> *conflict
[14:51] <dandrader> greyback, thanks
[14:59] <dandrader> mterry, rebased https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/removeApplicationStage/+merge/297766 and friends, bumping untiy-api versions
[18:37] <mterry> dandrader, FAIL!  : qmltestrunner::test_model_roles_enum(row 4) there should be an ApplicationManager::RoleStage enum
[18:37] <mterry>     Loc: [/«BUILDDIR»/unity-api-7.117+15.04.20160725/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/test/qmltest/modules/TestUtil/Verifier.qml(78)]
[18:38] <dandrader> mterry, unity-api?
[18:38] <mterry> dandrader, yup
[18:44] <dandrader> mterry, pushed fix
[18:44] <mterry> dandrader, thanks!
[18:45] <mterry> dandrader, also, removeDBusWindowStack was still conflicting   :(  I've left it out for now, but not sure what the conflict was
[18:46] <dandrader> mterry, do you have the log showing the sequence of branches being applied?
[18:47] <mterry> dandrader, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/log/1575/build/49/
[19:06] <dandrader> mterry, jesus, the conflict is totally retarted: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/20904794/ which is exactly what the branch diff is supposed to do (remove that header)
[19:20] <dandrader> mterry, you there?
[19:22] <mterry> dandrader, heyo yeah
[19:23] <ltinkl> dandrader, yeah nothing new... seen tons of those
[19:23] <mterry> dandrader, you were talking about the conflict being silly?
[19:23] <dandrader> mterry, rebased https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/qtmir/removeApplicationStage/+merge/301103 so it comes after removeDBusWindowStack
[19:23] <mterry> dandrader, ah k
[19:23] <dandrader> mterry, even though there was no real conflict, that should calm down bzr
[19:24] <dandrader> greyback, still around?
[19:25] <greyback> dandrader: I forgot to turn off irc :) What's up?
[19:25] <dandrader> greyback, need your reapproval here (same case as that other branchg earlier today): https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/qtmir/removeApplicationStage/+merge/301103
[19:26] <greyback> dandrader: you have it
[19:26] <dandrader> greyback, thanks. enjoy your evening.  :)
[19:27] <greyback> dandrader: anything else?


[03:47] <pavlushka> Morning Every one!
[04:38] <walrider> QA: time
[04:38] <QA> walrider: Excuse me?
[04:39] <walrider> QA: whats the time in DHaka
[04:39] <QA> walrider: It is 2016-09-09 10:39:11 BDT
[04:39] <walrider> net search kortase :|
[04:39] <walrider> er laigai late :|
[04:47] <walrider> wc zaki bai
[04:47] <walrider> wc abhra
[04:47] <walrider> zaki: wc bhai
[04:47] <walrider> abhra: wc
[04:48] <abhra> সুপ্রভাত walrider
[04:49] <walrider> সুপ্রভাত khida lagse
[04:52] <zaki> morning everyone
[04:54] <walrider> zaki: good mornig bhau
[04:57] <zaki> hello walrider
[06:56] <zaki> wb Kilos
[06:56]  * Kilos waves
[06:56] <zaki> Kilos: how are you?
[06:56] <Kilos> hi zaki fine ty and you
[06:57] <Kilos> have slept most of today away so i seem to be catching up on lost sleep
[06:58] <zaki> he he.
[06:59] <Kilos> raining and cold all day
[07:00] <Kilos> hows things there?
[07:00] <zaki> fine. :)
[07:09] <zaki> prayer time. bbl
[09:24] <zaki> wb
[09:28] <zaki> wb pavlushka
[09:30] <pavlushka> Thanks zaki :)
[09:31] <pavlushka> Hello everyone and Kilos :)
[09:31] <pavlushka> Hi NaSb :)
[09:31] <pavlushka> and Nahiyan :)
[09:32] <pavlushka> and our Honorable guests ahoneybun mhall119 wxl  hello :)
[09:32] <pavlushka> I have talked to Researcher on whatsapp, so he is good :)
[09:32] <pavlushka> So zaki ,  How is your PC now?
[09:33] <zaki> ok now. :)
[09:34] <pavlushka> zaki: Good, everything gets better after one night rest :)
[09:35] <zaki> he he.. :D
[09:35] <NaSb> Hello pavlushka, zaki
[09:35] <zaki> what are you doing now pavlushka
[09:35] <zaki> hi NaSb
[09:35] <NaSb> I'm very busy with my testing -_-
[09:35] <zaki> testing what?
[09:35] <NaSb> zaki are you on moznet ;)
[09:36] <zaki> nope
[09:37] <zaki> btw firefox started behaving like stepbrother sometime. :| even in safe mode.
[09:37] <zaki> NaSb: moznet why?
[09:39] <NaSb> Moznet another irc server like freenode
[09:40] <zaki> irc.mozilla.org ?
[09:41] <pavlushka> NaSb: preparing and waiting for some one to work with on a remote server, lets see :)
[09:42] <NaSb> hmm zaki
[09:43] <zaki> oh. oky im on moznet
[10:01] <NaSb> Ok. pavlushka
[10:17] <Kilos> hmm...
[10:17] <Kilos> why you wake up when its my bedtime
[10:20] <pavlushka> Kilos: ha ha ha, you should know something called destiny lol
[10:20] <Kilos> haha hows things there lad
[10:35] <zaki> bbl
[13:58] <AudaciousTUX> quit
[15:00] <zaki> hello everyone


[00:15] <siretart> wbs, who provided the patch, mentioned that he isn't entirely sure if the code actually works on ppc64el, running the fate testsuite would be great but none of us has access to some porter machine for that
[00:15] <siretart> infinity: ^^
[02:32] <Logan_> rsalveti: are you going to merge in zoneminder from Debian experimental for the libav10 transition?
[02:41] <siretart> sorry for the alsa mess. I have just cleaned it up
[03:33] <Logan_> xnox: are you planning on merging qutecom?
[03:35] <Logan_> xnox: also, do you think we can try syncing paraview and seeing how the buildds handle the parallel build? c.f. http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/p/paraview/paraview_4.0.1-1ubuntu1/changelog
[07:10] <darkxst> cjwatson, is there an easy way to avoid "Cannot handle more than one kernel for generic (3.13.0-24-generic
[07:10] <darkxst> 3.13.0-27-generic)!" when live-building trusty images?
[07:20] <darkxst> cjwatson, fwiw I am trying to build with livecd-rootfs, using PROJECT=ubuntu-gnome
[07:51] <cjwatson> darkxst: sounds like maybe -updates isn't added early enough or something ... would need to see the full log to make a better guess (FWIW I won't be around too much this weekend)
[07:52] <darkxst> cjwatson, ok, no rush, I will file a bug with the full logs
[14:17] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks


[01:14] <Unit193> LocutusOfBorg: Thanks, mate!
[05:19] <StevenK> slangasek: When you have a second, can you poke at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lvm2/+bug/1573982 ?
[06:33] <LocutusOfBorg> Unit193, I don't know why, but you are welcome :)
[06:33] <Unit193> Irssi.
[06:34] <Unit193> LP never notified me, so didn't notice.
[06:34] <LocutusOfBorg> :)
[06:34] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks tsimonq2 :)
[13:36] <ahasenack> hi, can someone please accept the bionic task for me for this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/postfix/+bug/1753470
[13:41] <StevenK> ahasenack: Done
[13:41] <ahasenack> StevenK: thanks
[14:32] <rbasak> ahasenack is getting https://lintian.debian.org/tags/hardening-no-bindnow.html for a proposed new package. On review, I asked why, if hardening=+bindnow is needed, why it isn't already default in dpkg-buildflags. What would be best practice here? For all Ubuntu-specific packages to individually maintain a hardening=+bindnow in debian/rules, for Ubuntu to adjust dpkg-buildflags when we want everything
[14:33] <rbasak> to do it, or to just ignore the lintian note?
[14:34] <rbasak> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features#bindnow seems relevant
[14:36] <rbasak> That suggests to me that it should be on by default on amd64 already?
[14:39] <rbasak> On Bionic, I have to specify hardening=+bindnow to get -Wl,-z,now in LDFLAGS
[14:41] <jbicha> rbasak: I use   export DEB_BUILD_MAINT_OPTIONS = hardening=+all   in many of my packages
[14:41] <jbicha> even with that, I get the lintian warning for some of the packages
[14:42] <rbasak> I understand that in Debian the general approach is one where maintainers slowly opt in to a new thing.
[14:43] <rbasak> In Ubuntu though, I'm not sure that makes sense.
[14:43] <rbasak> If project-wide we decide to enable something, we can just do it across some set of packages.
[14:44] <rbasak> And that's how hardening flags have been enabled over time in Ubuntu, AIUI.
[16:18] <sbeattie> rbasak: indeed, our gcc is set to enable bind-now by default if its being built with pie. I have to step into a meeting in a little bit, but can you point me at ahasenack's code?
[16:19] <ahasenack> sbeattie: https://git.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/ndctl/tree/debian/rules
[16:19] <ahasenack> and https://git.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/pmdk/tree/debian/rules
[16:20] <ahasenack> upstream is https://github.com/pmem/pmdk and https://github.com/pmem/ndctl
[16:24] <jbicha> sbeattie: it doesn't seem like it works, for instance, lintian says that bindnow isn't used if you build https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-characters after
[16:24] <jbicha> commenting out the hardening line in debian/rules
[16:27] <ahasenack> yeah, same for me
[16:27] <ahasenack> I removed the line that added hardening=+all and got the lintian warning
[16:28] <sbeattie> ahasenack: how are you building the package? I'm not that proficient with gpb
[16:29] <ahasenack> checkout that branch (master), sudo apt-get builddep ./, dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us
[16:29] <ahasenack> you'll need the orig tarball, it's the upstream release from github
[16:30] <sbeattie> ahasenack: ah, okay
[16:30] <rbasak> sbeattie: if it helps, I think that the build uses dpkg-buildflags, which should show you everything that's going on wrt. flags including interpreting DEB_BUILD_MAINT_OPTIONS=hardening=+foo etc
[16:30] <rbasak> If that's true, then you should be able to experiment just with that and not the entire build environments I think.
[16:31] <ahasenack> sbeattie: pmdk takes a while to build, ndctl is much faster
[16:31] <sbeattie> ahasenack: thanks
[16:31]  * sbeattie vanishes into a meeting black hole
[16:31]  * ahasenack -> lunch
[17:44] <ahasenack> sbeattie: oh, I forgot, there is a ppa which you might find more convenient: ppa:canonical-server/nvdimm it has both
[18:08] <sbeattie> ahasenack: are you seeing this with bionic builds or cosmic builds?
[18:09] <ahasenack> bionic, haven't tried cosmic yet, but will
[18:12] <sbeattie> okay, I'm not able to reproduce in a local bionic schroot, rebuilding with the DEB_BUILD_MAINT_OPTIONS line commented out entirely gives me a daxctl binary that hardening-check tells me is set up with immediate binding.
[18:14] <sbeattie> how is lintian being invoked?
[18:15] <sbeattie> (I don't see it in my ndctl buildlog)
[18:17] <ahasenack> sbeattie: lintian -iI --pedantic $@
[18:17] <ahasenack> it complains about the libraries
[18:22] <sbeattie> ahasenack: ah okay, I see that.
[19:08] <jbicha> infinity: could you handle bug 1769694?
[19:09] <infinity> jbicha: Yep, on it.
[19:11] <infinity> jbicha: Hrm, the bug links to the IRC meeting, but I don't actually see the election results anywhere to confirm. :P
[19:12] <infinity> jbicha: And the bug fails to mention what's up with the other two expiring members.  Ben and Brian stepping down tomorrow?
[19:14] <jbicha> yes
[19:14] <jbicha> were you looking for https://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_b99fd5c7c9572192 ?
[19:14] <infinity> jbicha: Exactly that, yes.  Thanks.
[19:14] <infinity> jbicha: Oh, I see, 5 slots and 5 candidates.  "Democracy!"
[19:15] <jbicha> NOTA never wins anything fun :( Maybe next time
[19:17] <infinity> jbicha: I should have gotten around to expressing concern about non-core-devs on the DMB before the election happened.
[19:17] <infinity> jbicha: Oh well, now I just get to pressure tsimonq2 to up his game and get core-deve.
[19:17] <infinity> s/deve/dev/
[19:18] <tsimonq2> infinity: Man, I've been trying.
[19:18] <tsimonq2> I did send a signed statement to the DMB saying I won't review applications for  people seeking upload access I  don't have.
[19:18] <tsimonq2> But I totally get your point.
[19:19] <infinity> jbicha: https://launchpad.net/~developer-membership-board/+members Look right to you before I close the bug?
[19:19] <infinity> tsimonq2: Yeah, and I appreciate that you did that, but that also makes it harder to meet quorum for core-dev applications if you have to recuse yourself from those.
[19:19] <tsimonq2> infinity: True.
[19:19] <jbicha> infinity: I asked about that issue a year ago https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2017-May/thread.html
[19:19] <infinity> tsimonq2: (plus, you still have the keys to various kingdoms, signed statement or no)
[19:21] <jbicha> infinity: yes that looks fine. Feel free to close the bug
[19:22] <infinity> jbicha: You guys might want to discuss voluntarily mangling some of your terms, if the intent is to rotate slots with coninuity (US senate style).
[19:22] <infinity> jbicha: Since there are 5 expiring at the same time, and 2 in the other batch.  A bit weird.
[19:22] <infinity> jbicha: And the 2019 batch should, ideally, expire in May, not Sep.
[19:23] <tsimonq2> infinity: Indeed, but by being voted onto the DMB, enough Ubuntu Developers trust me with those keys to not do anything malicious; I appreciate that. But I'll keep my word and not press buttons I shouldn't be pressing. Feel free to remove me from whatever team you want if I break that.
[19:24] <tsimonq2> infinity: And yes, pressure me to become a Core Developer. ;)
[19:24] <infinity> tsimonq2: Yeah, I'm not actually concerned, it's just a principle thing.  So, let's get you on your way to core-dev, so when I suggest that DMB members must be core-devs, the current DMB already conforms. :P
[19:26] <jbicha> infinity: we'll just nominate you to sit on the DMB then if we can't find enough enthusiastic core dev volunteers to fill the board :)
[19:27] <infinity> jbicha: Tried that.  I sucked at caring enough to attend meetings and stepped down.
[19:28] <infinity> Though, a big part of that was the calendar being perpetually wrong during my entire tenure.
[19:28] <tsimonq2> infinity: Alright. I did do an sbuild merge, slang2 merge, brltty merge, and a transmission sync in the past day or so. If you have more things to do, feel free to throw them at me, otherwise I'll stick to the strategy of stealing merges (with consent) by scanning merges.u.c for good candidates.
[19:28] <infinity> And, hilariously, fixed shortly after, but without removing me from the invite list.
[19:29] <infinity> tsimonq2: Talk to your fellow DMB members for their perspective, but I prefer to see bugfixes over merges.  Merges don't often demonstrate any real understanding of complexity (I mean, except when they do, but the complex ones are rare, most are so mechanically simple that MoM can spit out the result)
[19:29] <tsimonq2> infinity: Good point.
[19:30] <tsimonq2> infinity: Can you please press buttons so I can be subscribed to the DMB mailing list?
[19:31] <tsimonq2> (I submitted a subscription request.)
[19:31] <infinity> jbicha: In fact, I appear to still be on the DMB meeting invite list.  Please clean that up. ;)
[19:31] <jbicha> infinity: more details please :)
[19:32] <infinity> jbicha: Fridge calendar DMB meeting.  List of invites does not match current board.
[19:33] <infinity> tsimonq2: I don't moderate that list.  At least, I don't think I do.  If I do, I do it really poorly.
[19:34] <tsimonq2> infinity: The TB moderates it. :P
[19:34] <infinity> Yeah, that's not how mailman works.
[19:34] <jbicha> infinity: sil2100 owns that calendar appt
[19:34] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[19:35] <tsimonq2> infinity: The footer of lists.u.c/developer-membership-board disagrees.
[19:35] <infinity> tsimonq2: Yes, that just means that's who admin notifications get sent to.
[19:35] <infinity> tsimonq2: Still need the admin password to actually get in and do stuff.  And I don't think I have that one.  That's all I'm saying. :P
[19:35] <tsimonq2> infinity: Ah, right.
[19:43] <jbicha> infinity: are you able to moderate my u-devel-announce email re: DMB Election Results ?
[19:43] <infinity> jbicha: That, I can do.
[19:44] <infinity> jbicha: And done.
[23:28] <tsimonq2> #ubuntu-flavors is now a thing, fyi.
[23:30] <Unit193> To what end?
[23:30] <tsimonq2> Unit193: Hm?
[23:30] <tsimonq2> It was in response to Kev's ML thread.
[23:32] <valorie> to what end? we need moar *buntu chans, obv
[23:32] <tsimonq2> hehe
[23:32] <sarnold> more channels to <3 each other in :)
[23:32] <tsimonq2> ^
[23:32] <tsimonq2> And really, that's the point of this.
[23:32] <tsimonq2> So flavors can really start to communicate better.
[23:33] <Unit193> So, no purpose..?
[23:33] <tsimonq2> Unit193: :P
[23:33] <wxl> what's the point of you?
[23:33] <sarnold> the '3' looks pretty pointy...
[23:33] <wxl> what's the point of any of this?
[23:33]  * wxl cries
[23:33] <wxl> oh
[23:33] <tsimonq2> hah
[23:40] <Unit193> Also what tsimonq2 said a second before I did was more the answer I was looking for, "A place to check on issues that may affect multiple flavors" what the goal of the channel was.  Or, if it's some cross flavor effort for the new ubiquity re-write, or calamares, or what.
[23:41] <tsimonq2> Just in general, a place for coordinated albeit informal discussion among flavors that doesn't fit here or in -release, I think.
[23:42] <tsimonq2> Unit193: Anyway, can I consider this checking the "let the IRCC know" box? :)
[23:45] <Unit193> ACL looks about right, no logbot so no entry message.  So I'd say good enough.
[23:46] <tsimonq2> Alright.