[00:27] <gsilvapt> DarinMiller, you around?
[00:27] <gsilvapt> I need your help with sbuild again
[00:31] <gsilvapt> I went through the tutorial and I'm getting the same error in all builds, including ones I know they're building in KCI: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24885745/
[00:31] <gsilvapt> I'm pretty positive this is related to the sbuild's setup...
[00:40] <tsimonq2> gsilvapt: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/linux.debian.bugs.rc/3LHnM78aLZQ/5EkBoexwBQAJ
[00:40] <tsimonq2> gsilvapt: Bookmark it ;)
[00:40] <gsilvapt> I lost the logs of our conversations. I will bookmark it this time. Thank you!!!!
[00:44] <gsilvapt> yeap, this is working now, I was getting a bit desperate about this, loll.
[01:22] <gsilvapt> The cantor package is requiring a library I have no clue why's there for. Locally, the build fails (because the required version does not exist) but if I remove this package from the b-d, it builds with status attempted.
[01:22] <gsilvapt> The library is libanalitza-dev
[01:22] <gsilvapt> It was introduced in a upstream release: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/cantor/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=901b5b811d026d1ddbc7a2589e4bb18fbbf45c43
[01:23] <gsilvapt> Wait, not that one
[01:23] <gsilvapt> I don't know where this comes from. It isn't part of the cmake list
[01:28] <gsilvapt> Interesting, it does not fail in KCI builds because of this.
[02:46] <DarinMiller> Hi gsilvapt
[02:47] <DarinMiller> I f you have rebooted, you may need to run the last 2 commands in step 11 i n the sbuild guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild
[02:48] <DarinMiller> 1) mkdir -p /dev/shm/schroot/overlay/
[02:49] <DarinMiller> 2) sudo mount -o remount,size=75% /dev/shm
[02:54] <DarinMiller> gsilvapt: I responded before reading your build log.  As you may have discovered, if you need a PPA for a build, then you can use something like:
[02:54] <DarinMiller> sbuild -d artful-amd64 --extra-repository="deb [trusted=yes] http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubu ntu/ artful-proposed multiverse restricted universe main" -j4
[02:55] <DarinMiller> Or if you need multiple ppa, like this:
[02:55] <DarinMiller> sbuild -d artful-amd64 --extra-repository="deb [trusted=yes] http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging-frameworks/ubuntu artful main deb [trusted=yes] http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma/ubuntu artful main" -j4
[02:55] <DarinMiller> also don't forget to clean up your failed sessions:  schroot -e --all-sessions
[08:00] <lordievader> Good morning
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[09:23] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[10:23]  * acheronuk melts
[12:54] <gsilvapt> DarinMiller, no the problem was with the gpg keys. I had to delete the folder in order to proceed. It's explained here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/linux.debian.bugs.rc/3LHnM78aLZQ/5EkBoexwBQAJ
[12:55] <gsilvapt> And hello all o/
 Thanks @acheronuk
 for what?
 Twitter stuff
 Ah, right. NP
[13:14] <santa_> tsimonq2: fyi I would need (at least) qtmultimedia built for i386 and updated in the landing ppa, otherwise there would be a few plasma packages which wouldn't be able to build
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[18:02] <tsimonq2> santa_: ack
[21:19] <gsilvapt> hello all
[21:19] <clivejo> hi gsilvapt
[21:22] <gsilvapt> hi clivejo
[21:22] <gsilvapt> You asked about bug reporting the other night. Need anything in that regard?
[21:23] <clivejo> we have lots of stuff we would like into the archive
[21:24] <gsilvapt> I see. Well, I never done anything in that regard but I can learn :)
[21:28] <clivejo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess
[21:29] <gsilvapt> I assume I should focus on this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[21:30] <clivejo> well you use a bug report
[21:30] <clivejo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[21:30] <clivejo> Subscribe ubuntu-sponsors
[21:33] <clivejo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1663675
[21:33] <clivejo> try getting that in, valorie will love you forever
[21:34] <gsilvapt> Wow, wait, I'm getting confused.
[21:35] <gsilvapt> I'm not following what you need help with. Triaging bugs? Request sponsorship, fix bugs ...?
[21:36] <clivejo> paperwork :P
[21:37] <gsilvapt> That can be many things... Could you elaborate? :)
[21:38] <clivejo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1663675/comments/4
[21:40] <gsilvapt> Okay. And is there a list of all files which need this kind of thing?
[21:46] <gsilvapt> the maintainer here should be the email address of kubuntu-devel?
[21:57] <gsilvapt> clivejo, made a push. I followed the recommendations there, except rule #4 as I have no clue what that is
[21:57] <gsilvapt> Ah, and rule #6. I don't want to mess up the licenses and copyright thingy
[21:58] <clivejo> https://code.launchpad.net/~gsilvapt/kubuntu-packaging/+git/peruse/+merge/325892
[21:58] <clivejo> how are you mixing repos?
[21:59] <clivejo> got  ksudoku stuff in there too :/
[22:01] <gsilvapt> Ah, right... Dammit. I always click "choose other" and forget to click the bullet. It's an annoying bug. For the obvious reason, if you're choosing a different target, it is because you want that target.
[22:01] <gsilvapt> Let me re-do that MR
[22:02] <gsilvapt> Yeap, now it is correct: https://code.launchpad.net/~gsilvapt/kubuntu-packaging/+git/peruse/+merge/325893
[22:02] <gsilvapt> In fact I was looking at the diff and it was odd.
[22:09] <clivejo> can you add a comment on the bug now and ask for a review?
[22:10] <clivejo> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/peruse/+ref/kubuntu_unstable
[22:11] <clivejo> gsilvapt: are you on telegram?
[22:11] <gsilvapt> clivejo, I have an account but I don't use it often because I don't know anyone who does.
[22:11] <gsilvapt> And yes, I can take care of that
[22:13] <gsilvapt> clivejo, I have to assign ubuntu-sponsors to the bug again and in the comment ask for a review, isn't that so?
[22:13] <clivejo> just add the comment for now
[22:14] <clivejo> jbicha will review
[22:15] <gsilvapt> Okay then.
[22:15] <gsilvapt> I'm installing Telegram, btw
[22:16] <clivejo> if he okays it, then add sponsors
[22:17] <gsilvapt> Roger. Telegram -> gsilvapt
[22:18] <gsilvapt> Thanks, CliffordTheBigRedDoggie
[22:18] <clivejo> that allows you to use the bridge
[22:19] <gsilvapt> The bot over there? Or does this has more funcionalities?
[22:20] <clivejo> clifford is my telegram
[22:20] <gsilvapt> Yes, I recognized by name
[22:20] <gsilvapt> Ah, duh!!
[22:20] <gsilvapt> Never associated that huge name was you, even though I know you are called Clifford :)
[22:23] <gsilvapt> So, what is the bridge after all?
[22:23] <gsilvapt> (Regardless, thank you!)
[22:23] <clivejo> it links Telegram to this channel
[22:24] <clivejo> and the group on Telegram to here
[22:24] <gsilvapt> Cool!
[22:24] <gsilvapt> Do you guys use Telegram, besides for the bridge?
[22:25] <clivejo> yup
[22:25] <gsilvapt> Ok, thank you
[22:25] <clivejo> most of the team are on here
[22:26] <gsilvapt> hum, I'm seeing that. I thought some people stopped using telegram due to those security accusations they were involved a few months/years ago
[22:27] <clivejo> oh?
[22:27] <gsilvapt> clivejo, regarding some other packages that could require 'paper work', where can I find more?
[22:28] <clivejo> maybe see how you go with peruse
[22:28] <clivejo> but there are lots more
[22:30] <gsilvapt> I asked because I figured this can take some time to be reviewed because people are generally busy
[22:31] <clivejo> well  telepathy-morse and telegram-qt need some work
[22:33] <clivejo> need them to fix this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktp-contact-list/+bug/1512135
[22:35] <gsilvapt> To fix that bug, I need to add that dependency in debian/control? package: telepathy-morse, homepage, ....
[22:35] <clivejo> no, need those two new package in the archive
[22:37] <gsilvapt> Hum, I'm not sure if I know how to do that
[22:41] <clivejo> packaging is in LP git
[22:42] <gsilvapt> This one already exists: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/telegram-qt
[22:42] <gsilvapt> I think
[22:43] <gsilvapt> The other one does not. Do you mean I need to create the other one first?
[22:43] <gsilvapt> Or I'm not following even? :D
[22:43] <clivejo> yup
[22:45] <gsilvapt> Ok, lets see if I can do that.
[22:45] <gsilvapt> So, I have to take this list: https://github.com/TelepathyIM/telepathy-morse/blob/master/CMakeLists.txt
[22:45] <clivejo> the packaging needs cleaned up
[22:46] <gsilvapt> Create the usual debian folder and add all details that I can get from that GitHub repo?
[22:46] <clivejo> the debian folder has been created already and it is building
[22:46] <gsilvapt> Oh?, I couldn't find it
[22:47] <clivejo> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/telegram-qt/tree/?h=kubuntu_unstable
[22:49] <gsilvapt> hum, then I'm not understanding what I'm dealing with. I have these two packages and they're related. Does telegram-qt needs the telepathy-morse addition and a general clean of the package?
[22:49] <clivejo> telepathy-morse needs telegram-qt
[22:49] <clivejo> they both provide access to telegram in Plasma
[22:53] <clivejo> do you know how to check and update the copyright files?
[22:55] <gsilvapt> No
[22:59] <gsilvapt> I'm so lost right now xD
[23:00] <clivejo> https://wiki.debian.org/CopyrightReviewTools
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[23:07] <gsilvapt> Lets see if I get this. kde-telepathy-contact-list has a bug which requires telepathy-morse to be installed. It is on your ppa. telepathy-morse requires telegram-qt, which is the link you sent.
[23:07] <gsilvapt> Now, they both need work. I assume they need an copyright update for starters
[23:07] <clivejo> in order for it to connect to and use telegram, you need to install the two extra packages
[23:08] <clivejo> yes they both work and I'm using them at the moment
[23:08] <clivejo> but we want them in the archive, so they have to have everything right
[23:09] <gsilvapt> Okay, I'll try working on telegram-qt first because it is already in the archive
[23:09] <clivejo> it is?
[23:10] <clivejo> !info libtelegram-qt5-dev
[23:12] <gsilvapt> s/archive/kubuntu-packaging
[23:12] <gsilvapt> And I can't find the other one
[23:12] <clivejo> its there too
[23:12] <clivejo> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/telepathy-morse
[23:13] <gsilvapt> hum, thank you!
[23:13] <gsilvapt> Regarding the previous bug you gave to me, Jeremy replied, I've subscribed the sponsors again. Do i need to do something else for the time being?
[23:14] <clivejo> is he happy with the changes?
[23:15] <gsilvapt> well, he asked me to re-subscribe the sponsor team so I guess he is
[23:15] <clivejo> ok
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[23:21] <clivejo> gsilvapt: do you have a PPA you could upload a build to?
[23:23] <gsilvapt> I never did any of that so I don't think so
[23:24] <clivejo> ok, so go to your page
[23:24] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/~gsilvapt
[23:24] <gsilvapt> there
[23:24] <clivejo> and create a new PPA, maybe artful or kde or something
[23:24] <clivejo> whatever you want to call it
[23:25] <gsilvapt> Ok, done
[23:25] <clivejo> ok click on the link to it
[23:26] <gsilvapt> Yes
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[23:28] <gsilvapt> Do you want the link or something in particular?
[23:29] <clivejo> no
[23:30] <clivejo> can you build the source and upload it to your PPA?
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[23:32] <gsilvapt> Of kde-telepathy-contact-list?
[23:32] <clivejo> no peruse
[23:36] <clivejo> I have to go now, but we'll pick this up another time
[23:36] <gsilvapt> I build the source by using sbuild and uploading some generated files after that or that's not it?
[23:36] <clivejo> debuild -S
[23:36] <gsilvapt> Bah, okay. We can resume tomorrow or so
[23:37] <clivejo> grab the source with uscan --download-current-version --destdir=../
[23:37] <clivejo> then debuild -S
[23:38] <gsilvapt> Ok, thank you. i'll try this and if I get stuck I'll report tomorrow
[23:38] <clivejo> Ive uploaded to my PPA - https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/artful/+packages?field.name_filter=peruse&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=
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[23:39] <clivejo> you could investigate those failures ^
[23:41] <gsilvapt> My build failed for gpg errors
[23:42] <gsilvapt> secret key not availble
[23:42] <clivejo> probably cause I'm on the changelog
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[23:43] <gsilvapt> Yes, it has your name on it
[23:44] <clivejo> should have got you to take it over
[23:45] <gsilvapt> Don't know, but it failed the build
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[04:59] <dilinger> fabbione: when do you think you'll get around to doing a new kernel for this box?
[04:59] <dilinger> i've got a machine hooked up to its serial console right now that i want to bring back downstairs
[04:59] <dilinger> which i'll do as soon as there's little chance of the sunfire needing any sort of kernel upgrade
[05:50] <fabbione> dilinger: i already copies the sources there.. i will start the build in a few minutes
[05:51] <fabbione> oh hold on
[05:51] <fabbione> i just got a mail from davem
[05:51] <dilinger> yea?
[05:51] <fabbione> It doesn't fix a hang, it fixes userspace FPU register corruption.
[05:51] <fabbione> The hang on SMP Ultra-III chips will not be fixed by this patch.
[05:51] <fabbione> That problem would require at least 2 or 3 weeks with physical
[05:51] <fabbione> access to an SMP Ultra-III system.
[05:51] <fabbione> I'm just assuming your Ultra-III box was SMP since I do know about
[05:51] <fabbione> a hang on those systems.  It's a bug related to how the chip processes
[05:51] <fabbione> cross-cpu calls and L2 cache transactions.  It wedges and the only
[05:51] <fabbione> way to unwedge a wedged cpu is to try to gain ownership of some L2
[05:52] <fabbione> cache lines that cpu has.  And for this you have to guess, ie. try to
[05:52] <fabbione> figure out what data structures and pieces of the address space the
[05:52] <fabbione> hung cpu might have in it's L2 caches.
[05:52] <fabbione> I hope you can see why it's so difficult to code up a fix without
[05:52] <fabbione> physical access to a machine on which this can be triggered  :-)
[05:52] <fabbione> If your Ultra-III is not SMP I'd be curious to learn about it if you
[05:52] <fabbione> can still trigger the hang.
[05:52] <dilinger> he's in california, right?
[05:52] <fabbione> SF afaik
[05:53] <dilinger> ask him if he plans to come to ny anytime soon :)
[05:54] <fabbione> dilinger: is that a sunfire280r?
[05:54] <dilinger> yep
[05:54] <dilinger> (or montreal)
[05:54] <dilinger> (for ubz)
[05:54] <fabbione> ok hold on.. i am talking with him on another chat
[05:55] <fabbione> console isn't enough.. he needs access for real..
[05:59] <dilinger> right
[05:59] <dilinger> that's why i'm asking if he's going to be anywhere near me anytime soon
[05:59] <dilinger> i'll give him the machine
[06:01] <dilinger> is he on irc?
[06:02] <fabbione> yeah.. but not on feenode ;)
[06:02] <fabbione> (pasting here and there)
[06:02] <fabbione> davem he can't fedex it to SF? :)
[06:02] <fabbione> davem I'd pay for shipping, I could do that
[06:04] <dilinger> ugh
[06:04] <dilinger> i suppose i could, but i have no idea where the nearest place i could fedex from is
[06:05] <dilinger> he realizes it's 80lbs, right? :)
[06:06] <fabbione> i think he knows.. i did send an email to both of you
[06:06] <dilinger> ok
[06:07] <fabbione> so you can discuss it directly
[06:07] <fabbione> (on his request)
[06:07] <fabbione> pointless for me to bounce info around
[06:07] <dilinger> appropriate .sig
[06:10] <dilinger> fabbione: i would still like to see it used as a buildd or something, i dunno what davem plans to do w/ it in the long run.  but, the original owner of the machine would probably be pleased w/ davem owning it
[06:10] <fabbione> dilinger:  i think you can still agree with davem for him to have it while he fixes the bug
[06:10] <fabbione> and later send it to a hosting facility
[06:10] <fabbione> perhaps he knows even where to host it
[06:13] <dilinger> lame, fedex.com requires an account to get rates
[06:23] <fabbione> dilinger: about ubuntu buildd.. we might get official buildd's at the datacenter
[06:23] <fabbione> if we don't, we will find hosting for it
[06:25] <dilinger> fabbione: *shrug*.  well, ubuntu buildd or whatever; mainly i want to see it used for something that actually benefits the community
[06:26] <fabbione> yup.. i understand that :)
[06:26] <dilinger> if davem actively maintains it, i suppose that's a huge benefit.  but if it's just sitting in a room unused alongside 30 other sparcs that he owns.. :)
[06:27] <fabbione> nah he is already dedicating hw to ubuntu :) see his last email
[06:57] <fabbione> ehehe
[08:09] <fabbione> dilinger: did the machine change ip again+
[08:09] <fabbione> ?
[08:13] <dilinger> ugh
[08:14] <dilinger> i dunno what's up w/ this
[08:14] <dilinger> maybe give it a little time and it'll come back
[08:15] <fabbione> ok
[08:24] <dilinger> fabbione: if it's not back by morning, i'll switch its ip again
[08:25] <dilinger> 'night
[08:25] <fabbione> dilinger: can you please do it on the fly?
[08:25] <fabbione> because i did restart the buildd on it :)
[08:25] <dilinger> huh
[08:25] <dilinger> interesting
[08:25] <dilinger> try it now
[08:26] <fabbione> yup
[08:26] <fabbione> what happened?
[08:26] <dilinger> i'm.. not sure
[08:26] <fabbione> was it in OBP mode?
[08:26] <dilinger> no, it's up and running
[08:26] <dilinger> i couldn't reach it from the outside world
[08:26] <dilinger> but i could reach it from inside the network
[08:27] <fabbione> ah
[08:27] <fabbione> so what did you do?
[08:27] <dilinger> once i netcat'd out to a machine on the internet, it was reachable again
[08:27] <fabbione> ahhh
[08:27] <fabbione> arpcache problems
[08:27] <dilinger> so it sounds like some arp or routing issue
[08:27] <fabbione> no big deal
[08:27] <dilinger> yea
[08:27] <fabbione> i can add a ping every N minutes
[08:27] <fabbione> if you don't mind
[08:27] <dilinger> yea, i just started something like that
[08:27] <fabbione> perfect :)
[08:27] <dilinger> dilinger@sunfire:~$ while (sleep 180); do echo foo | nc mouth.voxel.net 22; done
[08:28] <fabbione> thanks a lot
[08:28] <dilinger> and now, i shall sleep
[08:28] <dilinger> np
[08:28] <fabbione> good night
[08:28] <dilinger> 'night
[12:04] <chmj> do we provide 2.6.13 ?
[12:06] <fabbione> no
[12:07] <chmj> thought so
[12:27] <johnm> fabbione: do you guys provide a hardened version of the ubuntu sources? (grsec/pax, etc)
[12:28] <fabbione> nope
[12:28] <johnm> fabbione: any plans to?
[12:28] <fabbione> nope :)
[12:28] <johnm> how come?
[12:28] <fabbione> but you can ask for discussion
[12:28] <fabbione> because the patches are a pain to maintain in time
[12:28] <johnm> Wiki = best place?
[12:28] <fabbione> johnm<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:29] <fabbione> for a fast discussion
[12:29] <johnm> :) they can be... but in honesty they're no worse than some of the stuff which is teasing mainsteam inclusion.
[12:29] <fabbione> wiki to formalize
[12:29] <johnm> that an open list?
[12:29] <johnm> tbh, it ideally means toolchain changes anyways, like the inclusion of pie and ssp./
[12:31] <fabbione> oh we did discuss that to death
[12:31] <fabbione> no you need to subscribe
[12:31] <johnm> pie/ssp? or the hardened stuff?
[12:31] <fabbione> we will not apply these patches in main
[12:31] <fabbione> yes
[12:31] <johnm> what came out of it?
[12:31] <fabbione> toolchain related..
[12:32] <fabbione> that hardened can be a derivate Ubuntu product
[12:32] <fabbione> but it won't hit mainline if it doesn't hit upstream first
[12:32] <johnm> ah I see.
[12:32] <fabbione> there are tons of reasons for that
[12:33] <fabbione> search the mailing list archive will give you a good bunch of stuff
[12:33] <fabbione> iirc it was discussed on ubuntu-devel mailing list
[12:33] <johnm> Yeah, we had similar discussions but pie/ssp is part of the base toolchain. (although we do give options to ignore using it).
[12:33] <johnm> cool, I'll take a look
[12:33] <fabbione> food time
[12:33] <fabbione> later
[12:33] <johnm> tbh, it isn't a requirement for the hardened-kernel stuff anyways. it's merely an extra attack vector which is being nailed down
[01:10] <makx> fabbione: klibc-sparc64-signals.diff causes build failures
[01:11] <makx> they are due too duplicate defines.
[01:11] <makx> gcc-3.3 doesn't cure that for me.
[01:11] <fabbione> makx: strange.. it was required here when building in 64 bit
[01:12] <makx> cpu             : TI UltraSparc IIi (Sabre)
[01:12] <fabbione> makx: i think it might be due to different l-k.h
[01:12] <fabbione> makx: cpu has nothing to do with it.. it's the build env that makes the difference
[01:13] <makx> fabbione: thought so did you apply an kernel patch too.
[01:13] <fabbione> makx: i don't do l-k-h, that's a question for jbailey
[01:13] <makx> #if defined(__KERNEL__)
[01:14] <makx> #define __old_sigaction         old_sigaction
[01:14] <makx> #define __old_sigaction32       old_sigaction32
[01:14] <makx> #else
[01:14] <makx> #define __old_sigaction         sigaction
[01:14] <makx> #define __old_sigaction32       sigaction32
[01:14] <makx> #endif
[01:14] <fabbione> makx: i don't have the code right under my eyes
[01:14] <makx> fabbione: sure :)
[01:14] <fabbione> building in 64bit did require that patch for me
[01:14] <fabbione> 32bit no
[01:14] <fabbione> now
[01:15] <fabbione> the gcc thing is another story
[01:15] <makx> the gcc thing is to make it working, linking?
[01:15] <fabbione> exactly
[01:15] <makx> davem doesn't like gcc-4.0 irc
[01:15] <fabbione> it FTBFS with breezy gcc-4.0 due to some linking error to libgcc
[01:15] <fabbione> so we did switch to gcc-3.3 or 3.4
[01:16] <fabbione> in 32 bit
[01:16] <makx> does ubuntu has build logs?
[01:16] <fabbione> so that works fine as a combination
[01:16] <fabbione> makx: yes
[01:16] <fabbione>  http://bld-3.mmjgroup.com/buildLogs/k/klibc/ <-
[01:16] <makx> nice :)
[01:16] <fabbione> but not all of them are there
[01:16] <fabbione> some tests have been done offline
[02:20] <dilinger> fabbione: everything still ok?
[02:20] <fabbione> dilinger: yes! that machine is fast
[02:21] <fabbione> if we can't find a place where to host it, i will take it here..
[02:21] <fabbione> i have bw and ips
[02:21] <dilinger> haha
[02:21] <dilinger> alright, i'm off to work.  later.
[02:22] <fabbione> i am off to nap and school
[02:22] <fabbione> later


[01:59] <guiverc> > I have removed the wrongly-named '.img' files.  The next daily build will produce .iso files again.  (vorlon)
 Good news @guiverc :) (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> > I have removed the wrongly-named '.img' files.  The next daily build will produce .iso files again.  (vorlon))
[02:23] <guiverc> Sure is... I don't want the bandwidth hit of downloading .img daily, so want the .iso I can zsync!


[05:02] <blackened> Hello. I'be recently decided to say goodbye to Windows & have installed Ubuntu Studio on my HP Pro book. However, I am totally new to the Linux OS (I have a long way to go.)
[05:02] <blackened> Basically, I'm trying to get my guitar into my laptop to record. A friend gave me a Line 6 gearbox silver (without software) & I'm trying to get it connected.
[05:02] <blackened> I found an article on ubuntugeek.com that gave me instructions, but it didn't quite work.
[05:02] <blackened> All was well until I tried to change the directory (cd line6linux/driver/trunk
[05:02] <blackened> .) I received a message that said "line6Linux/driver/trunk: No such file or directory" I continued anyway.
[05:02] <blackened> Next two steps went seemingly well. When I got to the command "make" it said "*** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop." onto the next command "sudo make install" it read "** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop."
[05:02] <blackened> Can anyone out there help a Ubuntu nube get these drivers installed so I can start making some noise with this thing?
[05:02] <blackened> Thanks, selber
[05:03] <blackened> Anybody make sense of that?
[05:10] <blackened> Sorry for the misspellings
[05:11] <blackened> Anybody care to lead me to a site where I may be able to find a remedy?
[17:31] <antonio_> Hi I am using 13.10 and installed a debian package I found on the net it is skg-jukebox
[17:33] <antonio_> The program did not work and after trying to remove it i got an error and I can not upgrade software ever since
[17:33] <antonio_> skg-jukebox  subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[18:47] <Guest49220> hi, im using ubuntu studio xfce, suddenly my GUI didn't load properly, systems hangs when i reboot. Can some one help?
[18:47] <Guest49220> but working under root user
[18:48] <Unit193> Well, I wouldn't recommend IRC'ing as root, but...  Can you remove your x/iceauthority files and perhaps .config?
[18:48] <Unit193> !xhangs
[18:49] <Unit193> But, but, but...
[18:49] <Unit193> I feel sad now.
[19:09] <rhizo> Aloha
[21:01] <zenpho> howsy doodie
[21:01] <Unit193> Howdy.
[21:02] <zenpho> hows thangs?
[21:04] <zenpho> weather here is amazingly foggy - like a horror movie or something!
[21:04] <Unit193> Very windy here, but otherwise sunny.
[21:04] <Unit193> Temp: 55 F (13 C)
[21:06] <zenpho> I love a good wind storm... it's great to be indoors whilst the wind howls around you
[21:07] <zenpho> I also love sitting and working by the window slightly open when it rains - a lovely cozy feeling with the smell of rain washing in
[21:07] <zenpho> ;o)
[21:32] <vsrm> hi I am using ubuntu studio for the first time fully and I am loving it
[21:32] <vsrm> anyone else using it for the premier fois?
[21:34] <zenpho> been using it as my main creative-work os for a month-ish now.... very very impressed yes
[21:34] <zenpho> awww
[21:34] <zenpho> patience
[21:36] <Unit193> A lot of people have none.
[21:38] <zenpho> mmm


[00:00] <g3> oh shame
[00:23] <mup> Bug #1659986 opened: [2.1.3] Curtin fails to deploy Centos on HP DL360 G9 - FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/tmpt84rtm0x/target/boot/efi/EFI' <oil> <curtin:New> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1659986>
[00:29] <mup> Bug #1659986 changed: [2.1.3] Curtin fails to deploy Centos on HP DL360 G9 - FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/tmpt84rtm0x/target/boot/efi/EFI' <oil> <curtin:New> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1659986>
[00:35] <mup> Bug #1659986 opened: [2.1.3] Curtin fails to deploy Centos on HP DL360 G9 - FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/tmpt84rtm0x/target/boot/efi/EFI' <oil> <curtin:New> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1659986>
[00:43] <g3> Hmm if I add another network interface when I deploy it all fails
[00:46] <andrew-ii> g3: That... is really weird. As in, you add to the commissioned node?
[00:46] <g3> I have a OOB network and a network with the internet connection
[00:47] <g3> If I setup the interface on the node with the internet connection
[00:47] <g3> it fails when it tries to download something
[00:47] <g3> if I just use the OOB network it works..
[00:49] <andrew-ii> I wonder if it's using the new interface instead of the old as the main route for internet traffic?
[00:51] <andrew-ii> One of my nodes did that, where the first NIC wasn't actually the one that was the main connection, and so commissioning failed (if it didn't include all the MACs)
[01:50] <g3> okay when I have a second interface added into the interfaces of the node
[01:50] <g3> I see
[01:51] <g3> searching for network data from DataSourceMAAS
[01:51] <g3> and it fails there
[01:54] <g3> https://www.stackevolution.com/node/20
[02:44] <mup> Bug #1467465 changed: Hardcoded deployment timeout of 40 minutes <canonical-bootstack> <timeout> <windows> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1467465>
[03:14] <mup> Bug #1659986 changed: [2.1.3] Curtin fails to deploy Centos on HP DL360 G9 - FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/tmpt84rtm0x/target/boot/efi/EFI' <oil> <curtin:New> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1659986>
[04:26] <mup> Bug #1644920 changed: Image selection unclear <docteam> <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1644920>
[04:26] <mup> Bug #1645057 changed: [web UI] erasure options during Release do not reflect chosen default <docteam> <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1645057>


[02:23] <nhaines>           irclogs.ubuntu.com | We have an unlogged channel at #ubuntu-us-ca-offtopic
[02:24] <pleia2> thanks nhaines
[02:25] <pleia2> had it on my list post-meeting, but my list D:
[02:30] <nhaines> That's okay!  I had it on my list post-flight but also D:
[02:30] <nhaines> I just barely got my expense claim form in.  :)
[02:36] <nhaines> pleia2: Did you watch Stranger Things on Netflix?
[02:37] <pleia2> nhaines: yep :)
[02:37] <nhaines> Well then, spoiler alert: the free tie-in mobile game they put out in advance of season 2 is really fun.
[02:38] <nhaines> I sat down to try it out for 5 or 10 minutes earlier today and 90 minutes later I think I'm about 25% complete and I'm like "where did my day go?"
[02:38] <pleia2> haha
[02:39] <nhaines> Big Zelda/Earthbound/Stranger Things vibe.  I'm looking forward to playing it some more... tomorrow.  :)
[02:40] <pleia2> I've been in a state of travel-work-read-TV lately, no games aside from casual 3DS play :(
[02:41] <nhaines> I bought Metroid: Samus Returns for my return flight from the Ubuntu Rally but after two hours or so I had to take a break.
[02:41] <nhaines> And by that I mean I couldn't throw my 3DS out the window because airplane.  :)  I like it, though.
[02:41] <pleia2> feel a bit bad about how much TV I've been watching, but seeing as how I've had a sprained ankle and that still isn't keeping me off planes, I am trying to cut myself some slack
[02:42] <pleia2> I haven't bought any new 3DS games lately
[02:43] <nhaines> I played Metroid II on 3DS Virtual Console but failed to convince myself that this was acceptable for the flight home.  :)
[02:43] <pleia2> I did buy Final Fantasy XIII at the end of July and totally failed to start playing it yet
[02:43] <nhaines> But Metroid was the first game I bought in a long while.
[02:44] <pleia2> but I did only spend one week at home in August, two weeks in September...
[02:45] <pleia2> my 3DS battery hasn't been doing as good as I remember
[02:45] <pleia2> I even ordered a new one, and that was lousy too
[02:45] <nhaines> Aww.  Really?
[02:47] <pleia2> kind of assumed I'd just upgrade to the Switch, but I really like my 3DS
[02:48] <nhaines> Same.
[02:48] <pleia2> so I just charge it a lot :)
[02:48] <nhaines> Hehe.  :)
[02:48] <nhaines> It's a tough choice.  On the one had, I love autostereoscopic 3D, but on the other hand I also love resolution.
[02:49] <pleia2> the screen on the switch is pretty stunning
[02:51] <pleia2> but it turns out I don't like my games to be realistic, so I'm fine with lower resolution
[02:52] <pleia2> have we talked about this before? I can't play modern FPS games because they make me too sad
[02:52] <nhaines> Breath of the Wild is so beautiful though!
[02:52] <nhaines> I don't think we have.
[02:53] <pleia2> the pretty of Final Fantasy in the late 90s certainly was a draw, but I think even with that the excitement wound down as I got into the game
[02:53] <pleia2> yeesh, I've been away from the Zelda franchise for a while
[02:54] <pleia2> this does look nice :)
[02:54] <nhaines> If you shoot an arrow through a campfire, the arrow catches fire. :)
[02:54] <pleia2> :D
[02:56] <nhaines> Everyone was excited about Skyrim for the Switch, but I was like "if I have an open-world Zelda game, why would I want to play Skyrim?"
[02:57] <pleia2> hehe
[02:57] <nhaines> And I like Skyrim.  :)
[02:57] <nhaines> But, you know.  When Nintendo bends all their will into a single game, that game is special.
[02:58] <pleia2> I never played
[03:02] <nhaines> It's an interesting game.  As it went on, I mostly played it to collect the in-world books and read them.  :)
[03:02] <nhaines> (Skyrim, that is.)
[03:02] <nhaines> I played Breath of the Wild for 15 minutes until Nintendo said I couldn't play anymore.  :)
[03:05] <pleia2> tsk :)
[03:11] <nhaines> Aw, someone on reddit made a joke (misheard song lyrics) and said Wii Sports Resort and now I'm sad.
[05:21] <nhaines> https://www.xkcd.com/1900/ <- me
[05:21] <darthrobot> Title: [xkcd: Jet Lag]


[05:15] <mapps> berlin station so good
[08:42] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:51] <SuperMatt> morning
[09:01] <foobarry> i bought an itunes voucher many years ago, and had to create an appleid
[09:02] <foobarry> keep getting attempts to login the account so i wanted to remove it...doesn't seem possible
[09:03] <popey> you have to ask them to remove it I think
[09:03] <foobarry> sigh
[09:04] <popey> oh, you might be able to from within itunes
[09:04] <popey> but that means installing itunes
[09:04] <SuperMatt> Vendor lock in? What vendor lock in?
[09:04] <foobarry>  We are unable to complete your request at this time. Please try again or come back later.
[09:04] <foobarry> thats the support page
[09:05] <foobarry> and a spinning whell. just like using a mac
[09:12] <foobarry> they have to call me :(
[09:15] <foobarry> oh the shame when i had to answer my comical security questions on the phone
[09:16] <foobarry> ..should i say flippant
[09:16] <SuperMatt> "What's your favourite operating system?"
[09:19] <foobarry> been passed to senior adviser
[09:19] <foobarry> "you don't have any plans to have any apple stuff in the future?"
[09:19] <SuperMatt> because you said your favourite is Linux?
[09:19] <foobarry> "your account will be locked forever"
[09:20] <SuperMatt> I have to use a mac for work, and it's just terrible. For instance, there's no option for the dock to intellihide
[09:20] <SuperMatt> It's either hidden all the time of visible all the time
[09:21] <knightwise> morning
[09:22] <foobarry> "are you currently involved in legal action against apple"
[09:24] <foobarry> i get the impression not many people do this
[09:36] <SuperMatt> heh
[09:43] <knightwise> Ya-a--a-awn
[09:51] <foobarry> does retro pie work oOK with pi zero?
[09:53] <foobarry> was thinking of getting some of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-X-Wired-USB-SNES-Controller-Retro-Gaming-Joypad-Joystick-Gamepad-For-Nintendo-/162281751335?hash=item25c8bf0327:g:8JEAAOSwcLxYKyg8
[09:58] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:32] <popey> foobarry: i use a pi3 but any pi will do for retropie
[10:32] <popey> I have 8bitdo bluetooth controllers with my pi3. works a treat
[10:39] <foobarry> quite expensive?
[10:39] <popey> they're more expensive than the cheapo wired ones on ebay, yeah
[10:44] <popey> search for 8bitdo
[10:44] <popey> they're quality devices
[11:00] <foobarry> been enjoying star wars pinball on android over the weekend, but got bad headaches
[11:22] <zmoylan-pi> the game occupying my time is pixel dungeon, a roguealike variamt thats fairly hard
[13:10] <knightwise> hmmm. is it possible that i need to upgrade my xps firmware to get bluetooth to work   ? ?
[13:10] <knightwise> cant connect a single bluetooth mouse
[13:11] <zmoylan-pi> do any other bt devices work?
[13:11] <zmoylan-pi> send a file from a phone etc.
[13:12] <knightwise> i havent been able to pair my bluetooth speakers so far
[13:12] <knightwise> tried an apple mouse and 2 bluetooth models
[13:12] <zmoylan-pi> it may have a limited bt feature set, try sending receiving a file from a phone.  one of the more basic services
[13:12] <zmoylan-pi> but it doesn't look good
[13:13] <knightwise> :( Hmmm
[13:13] <knightwise> gonna google some more , see if i can find something out
[13:16] <knightwise> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323373
[13:17] <knightwise> hmm. downloading firmware from a dropbox like . rrrr
[13:33] <foobarry> knightwise: borrow a BT usb adapter from someone
[13:33] <knightwise> foobarry: gonna try that
[13:33] <knightwise> see if that works
[13:58] <ali1234> sending a file from a phone over bluetooth is a bad test because it is explicitly broken
[13:59] <ali1234> the feature was maintained by gnome so they removed it without writing a replacement
[14:04]  * zmoylan-pi makes a note to check what's doing the transfer next time i bt to a laptop
[14:23] <Rixon> Hi there, I've been following a guide to pivot_root so I can shrink my root fs+lvm and grow my var fs+lvm, I got as far as copying the necessary parts into tmpfs and restarting all the services, fuser -vm and lsof both roport nothing holding onto /oldroot but I still can't umount it =( I saw a suggestion that /oldroot/boot might still be mounted, but it's not
[14:25] <Rixon> any ideas on what to investigate if fuser -vm and lsof both have nothing left to tell me?
[14:47] <diddledan> Rixon: what about /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys and any other mountpoints?
[14:48] <diddledan> Rixon: I'd recommend doing the resize in a live-boot environment rather than off your working installation
[14:53] <Rixon> diddledan: unfortunately we have no physical access to the machine, so no liveCD trickery, hence the online resize
[14:53] <Rixon>  /dev, /proc, /sys and /run are all in tmpfs now and pivot_root worked fine
[14:54] <diddledan> yes but did you unmount the old locations?
[14:55] <Rixon> aaaah it looks like umount -a didn't catch them because they were still busy - thanks I think I should be able to pick it up from there ;)
[14:58] <Rixon> dunno how I didn't see that haha
[17:06] <daftykins> diddledan: i see your cat links and i raise you...
[17:06] <daftykins> kittens in 4K! https://www.dropbox.com/s/50xmsuxadlinsy7/VID_20161219_133034.mp4?dl=0
[17:46] <diddledan> naww, cute kitties
[17:47] <daftykins> adding to the 2 year old son and wee dog, bit crazy that place now :>
[17:48] <daftykins> ooh i just tried a bit more of Tron: Legacy out on the LG OLED, sooo nice looking \o/
[17:48] <diddledan> \o/
[17:48] <daftykins> with any luck the 2017 models will be cheaper ;)
[17:49] <daftykins> i could totally move up from a 55" to a 65" ;)
[18:01] <davmor2> daftykins: awwwwwwwwwwwwww
[18:08] <daftykins> =]
[18:44] <diddledan> I'm curious if anyone thinks snap could replace rather than compliment something like docker
[18:45] <diddledan> (or lxd)
[18:45] <diddledan> there's some kind of similarities in containers and snap's confinement model but implemented using different tech
[18:46] <diddledan> and if not replace, how do you see snap complimenting docker or vicky verky
[18:55] <davmor2> diddledan: there is a very nice summary that mark did let me see if I can find it
[18:55] <diddledan> \o/
[18:56] <diddledan> thankyou :-)
[18:56]  * diddledan checks shuttleworth.com
[18:56] <diddledan> apparently mark is into integrated product handling solutions :-p
[18:57] <davmor2> diddledan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z3yusiCOCk
[18:58] <diddledan> lol @ docker and apt-get had a baby
[18:59] <zmoylan-pi> a frankenstein kill it with fire baby...
[18:59] <diddledan> don't you love that mark has to have a label telling people he's mark shuttleworth? :-p
[18:59] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: besides the slide it's actually a good talk :)
[19:01] <zmoylan-pi> could you pick top 20 silican valley faces out of a police line up? :-)
[19:01] <diddledan> well it depends whether I saw them actually commit the murder or not
[19:02] <zmoylan-pi> they wouldn't murder, they'd violate a eula :-P
[19:02] <diddledan> even worse
[19:02] <davmor2> diddledan: hope that helps resolve your issue for you :)
[19:02] <diddledan> they might violate the GPL!
[19:03]  * diddledan watching it
[19:03] <zmoylan-pi> gpl 1, 2 or 3, or lgpl? there's not a lot gpl in that...
[19:08] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: it's one project where bits touch all of the above ;)
[19:35] <diddledan> while we're talking about docker, I spun-up a few containers to support ubulog.com
[19:37] <diddledan> there's two elasticsearch containers, a web container, and a kibana container (for my use only)
[19:37] <diddledan> oh and a logstash container
[19:37] <diddledan> knew there was one I was forgetting :-p
[19:38] <diddledan> aah, and another container collecting the logs in the first place
[19:39] <diddledan> so that's 5 containers and 1 kibana container
[19:44] <diddledan> this guy's getting silly with it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4gH7e3mvFM (same conference as davmor2's link to Mark's explanation of snap vs docker)


[00:02] <MarcN> rww, heh, turns out 0.8.2 is the latest version of f-spot.
[00:03] <MarcN> rww, 2010 vintage!
[00:12] <Magiobiwan> "Failed to save interface : '<IP_ADDRESS> ' is not a valid IP address"
[00:12] <Magiobiwan> Orly?
[02:31] <WizardGed> anyone in here having problems with libreoffice in kde atm
[03:09] <Seven_Six_Two> so I'm getting an ssl error in firefox when I go to wiki.gnome.org
[03:09] <Seven_Six_Two> chromium loads the page.
[03:09] <Seven_Six_Two> Error code: sec_error_ocsp_unknown_cert
[03:11] <qengho> Seven_Six_Two: It's safe to guess the admins are fixing the enormous TLS vulnerability, not that a browser is broken and no-one noticed.
[03:11] <Seven_Six_Two> I don't know about ssl, so I wasn't sure if it is a bug or something I did. Please don't underestimate my own ability to break stuff.  ;)
[03:44] <john_rambo> Hi, I just finished installing 14.04 beta 2 .... I selected auto login ....Problem is I get a black screen followed by a black screen filled with white dots ...and the system hangs completely
[03:44] <john_rambo> Nvidia 6150SE
[03:50] <john_rambo> Any clues ?
[03:50] <micdawg> The following packages have been kept back:   libdb-dev
[03:50] <micdawg> anyway to force that?
[03:50] <micdawg> nvm
[03:50] <micdawg> :/
[06:05] <john_rambo> I got this while updating http://pastie.org/9026000 ........
[06:26] <Aki-XchatCrashed> huh... Can anyone help verify for me whether pgp keys are working?
[06:26] <Aki-XchatCrashed> I can't bloody verify mine on 14.04
[06:27] <Aki-XchatCrashed> I have tried 3 times now; the passphrase I am giving thunderbird just is not working
[06:36] <lordievader> rohan: It seemed the libegl1-mesa wasn't updated. After updating to that kde wouldn't load. Then I gave up. Now I'm gonna mess with it some more.
[06:36] <lordievader> By the by, good morning channel o/
[06:39] <Aki-XchatCrashed> lordievader, hey  morning
[06:39] <Aki-XchatCrashed> lordievader, Want to help me confirm a bug? (Im in 14.04 beta2
[06:39] <Aki-XchatCrashed> )
[06:40] <Aki-XchatCrashed> Been trying to create a pgp key, but the passwords are just not working...
[06:43] <lordievader> Aki-XchatCrashed: I don't use pgp keys on my Trusty box.
[06:43] <lordievader> Sorry.
[06:44] <Aki-XchatCrashed> lordievader, thats fine; all I need is you to create one, sync it, and then try to use the password you gave it (by rightclicking, going to properties, and changing the passphrase)
[06:44] <lordievader> First need to fix my kde desktop.
[06:54] <nbros652> No more ffmpeg?!? What should I be looking at as a replacement?
[06:54] <Ben64> avconv
[06:55] <Ben64> ffmpeg has been telling you to use avconv for quite a while now
[06:55] <nbros652> Thanks
[07:40] <onlty> i cannot wait until the next official LTS release
[07:49] <john_rambo> Video playback is quite unstable in both mplayer and vlc....Is this a known issue ?
[07:52] <pierre_> Kubuntu 14.04 bug !
[07:52] <ikonia> Fix it !
[07:52] <ikonia> or provide a more grown up description of the problem
[07:53] <pierre_> "Could not start D-Bus. Can you call qdbus ?" error after login !
[07:53] <ikonia> that could be caused by any number of reasons and I'd hardly call it a "bug" until we know why it's failing
[07:53] <lordievader> pierre_: That's bug 1304805, faced it this morning too.
[07:53] <ikonia> lordievader: amazing bug awareness !
[07:54] <lordievader> ikonia: The bug report was brought to my attention this morning :)
[07:54] <lordievader> pierre_: Can you mark that you are affected too, please.
[07:55] <mwhudson> hello, wifi just went wonky on me on my newly-trustified laptop
[07:55] <mwhudson> Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] (rev 34)
[07:55] <mwhudson> it works again after a reboot
[07:55] <mwhudson> it may have been suspend/resume that caused the problem
[07:55] <mwhudson> does this sound familiar to anyone else?
[07:58] <mwhudson> i have messages about "nl80211: send_and_recv->nl_recvmsgs failed: -33" in syslog but they are still coming now and its working currently...
[08:07] <pierre_> Why there still has significant bugs while we had one week of the final release ?
[08:59] <sandGorgon> is anybody here using gnome on 14.04 ? are you still seeing window borders ?
[09:54] <sandGorgon> anybody using gnome on ubuntu ? how do you even install a window theme ? For example I installed Zukitwo - it is visible as a GTK theme, but doesnt show up in "window theme" in gnome tweak
[10:30] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:35] <onca> did I ever mention I love the goat on the installation screen?
[11:35] <onca> moar goats plz
[11:47] <onca> MOAR GOATS
[13:28] <eurythmia> Hi folks. I've installed 14.04 with encrypted lvm, and I have encrypted my home directory as well. When I rebooted my machine my password to unlock the hard disk was rejected three times, and now when I try to boot into that install I don't even get the splash screen. Any Ideas what might be up?
[13:28] <RFleming> Good Day!
[13:28] <eurythmia> ... forgot to mention I did an "sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude dist-upgrade" before the reboot.
[13:29] <eurythmia> reboots work fine on a fresh install, but after the upgrade, the defecation hits the oscillation. I'm currently booted into a live USB system.
[13:30] <eurythmia> From the live USB system, I can mount the encrypted volume.
[13:50] <drfoo_> in reference to openssl bug : is 14.04 vulnerable ?
[13:50] <bekks> drfoo_: Yes. Install regular updates, done.
[13:51] <drfoo_> ok i did
[13:51] <drfoo_> OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014
[13:51] <bekks> drfoo_: then read this: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[13:51] <drfoo_> 14.04 is not listed
[13:52] <bekks> But the CVE are.
[13:52] <bekks> And they state which vevrsions are affected.
[13:53] <eurythmia> bekks: could the new version have anything to do with why my password for my encrypted drive isn't recognized?
[13:54] <bekks> eurythmia: No.
[13:55] <drfoo_> thanks for the info bekks:  how do I update ? I did apt-get dist-upgrade then a reboot
[13:55] <eurythmia> ... darn. It's a thought :-(
[13:55] <eurythmia> do you know if the behaviour I'm experiencing is expected? (i.e. three bad passwords, drive locks forever?)
[13:55] <bekks> drfoo_: Then you are running the latest, fixed, version.
[13:56] <drfoo_> okay, I was looking for version "g"
[13:56] <drfoo_> OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014
[13:56] <bekks> drfoo_: then you should reread the changelogs :)
[13:57] <drfoo_> k tnx
[14:02] <drfoo_> okay so the openssl version is the same it's just patched , is that correct ?
[14:05] <k1l> drfoo_: yes. its patched since april 7th
[14:05] <drfoo_> √
[14:06] <k1l> most news sites dont tell, that moste big linux distros already made updates or patched versions available
[14:07] <drfoo_> i was looking for 1.0.1g after update
[14:07] <drfoo_> saw it was still 1.0.1f thought something went funky
[14:48] <jjavaholic> why would /usr/lib/nvidia-331/xorg/nvidia_drv.so call gettimeofday() when redrawing/resizing a window?
[14:49] <bekks> Ask the nvidia devs? ;)
[14:50] <jjavaholic> I have asked this question in #nvidia to no avail
[14:52] <bekks> jjavaholic: I doubt nvidia will open the code for you.
[14:55] <aljosa> any idea howto resolve "startkde: Could not start D-Bus. Can you call qdbus?", everything worked ok and then i did dist-upgrade a few minutes ago
[15:01] <RFleming> aljosa, seems to be related to bug #1304805
[15:01] <ikonia> bug 1304805
[15:02] <ikonia> aljosa: look at bug 1304805
[15:03] <RFleming> aljosa, looks like the fix is this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/1304805/comments/12
[15:03] <aljosa> thanks
[15:03] <RFleming> also looks like the fix was released
[15:04] <RFleming> try an update again, should be in kde-workspace 4.11.8-0ubuntu5
[15:10] <aljosa> RFleming: fixed it w/ "apt-get install --reinstall kde-workspace". i know it sounds strange but i don't think that dist-upgrade fixed it.
[15:11] <aljosa> nevermind, it works now
[15:11] <RFleming> aljosa, that's all that matters :)
[15:11] <nopfi> hi. freshly installed ubuntustudio 14.04 beta 2 i386 on old ibm x345 system, i can see the graphic system for about half a second. where the login greeter should be there's only a black rectangle. then it crashes/recycles
[15:12] <nopfi> xfce version first, then lightdm. same result. xorg.log at http://paste.ubuntu.com/7226626/
[15:12] <nopfi> what to check?
[15:13] <nopfi> or does it really need a mouse, which i haven't connected yet?
[16:01] <gabr13l> a few questions... what is the name of the file manager... gksu nautilus produces no results :(
[16:04] <gabr13l> also... anyone got a link as to how I can enable my splash screen... it's just text after installing the nvidia drivers and google was of no help
[16:07] <lordievader> gabr13l: What flavour do you use?
[16:10] <gabr13l> 14.04 ubuntu with fallback and gnome-shell installed
[16:10] <gabr13l> nautilus runs from /usr/local/bin but won't launch on gksu
[16:11] <gabr13l> want the standard ubuntu splash screen
[16:11] <lordievader> Hmm, wasn't it gksudo?
[16:12] <gabr13l> hmm lemmee try
[16:13] <gabr13l> that doesn't work either
[16:13] <BluesKaj> gksudo for graphical UIs
[16:13] <gabr13l> I just tried Blues... no go
[16:14] <lordievader> gabr13l: gksudo /usr/local/bin/nautilus
[16:14] <lordievader> ?
[16:14] <gabr13l> could it be cos I'm in the gnome-session-fallback?
[16:15] <gabr13l> nope, sorry :) that doesn't work either XD
[16:16] <gabr13l> actually... I can't gksu or gksudo ANYTHING
[16:16] <gabr13l> >:(
[16:17] <BluesKaj> sudo installed?
[16:18] <Kilos> im guessing here, not an IT person. isnt the splash screen disabled in /etc/default/grub
[16:19] <Kilos> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[16:20] <Kilos> and comment GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[16:21] <Kilos> i did that to see the bootup text rather than the splash screen
[16:23] <Kilos> i have a problem with the network manager applet goodie. it doesnt show signal strength at all
[16:23] <Kilos> just 5 grayed out lines
[16:23] <Kilos> any ideas please
[16:26] <gabr13l> ah... all I had to do was sudo apt-get install gksu... ty!
[16:27] <gabr13l> next question... does ubuntu have a mixer for multimedia like the xfce4-mixer?
[16:37] <Kilos> i am using 14.04 unity and a d-link dwm-156 3g modem
[16:45] <BluesKaj> Kilos, sudo lshw -C network , under network look for the "product? under Wireless Network Adapter
[16:46] <Kilos> ty BluesKaj
[16:46] <Kilos> lemme see
[16:47] <natman> anyone been using Kubuntu 14.04 ? how is it, im still using 13.04
[16:50] <BluesKaj> natman, suggest you wait til next Thurs Apr 17 when 14.04 is officially released
[16:51] <natman> BluesKaj: cool thx, just wondering how its shaping up, is the IM client anywhere as good as kopete used to be?
[16:52] <Kilos> BluesKaj, i dont see anything to do with the dlink there. i am connected with it at the moment but had to actually plugin an extra modem as well to get modeswitch to trigger
[16:52] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s2EN8Mc8DV
[16:52] <Kilos> thats what i see
[16:52] <BluesKaj> natman, sorry I don't know, don't use kopete or IMs anymore
[16:53] <natman> BluesKaj: cool thanks anyways, see ye next week :)
[16:53] <Kilos> i also noticed iftop doesnt work with ppp0
[16:54] <BluesKaj> Kilos, run sudo dhclient wlan0 , for wifi
[16:54] <Kilos> i have disconnected wifi
[16:55] <jjavaholic> what is wrong with kopete now?
[16:55] <Kilos> sudo dhclient wlan0
[16:55] <Kilos> RTNETLINK answers: Operation not possible due to RF-kill
[16:55] <BluesKaj> Kilos, why?
[16:55] <Kilos> i am out on a farm and only get 3g
[16:56] <jjavaholic> besides the awful menu system
[16:57] <Kilos> are 3g and wireless linked together
[16:58] <Kilos> sorry im not sure if i must start with your nick first
[16:58] <Kilos> used to chatting on #ubuntu-za
[16:59] <BluesKaj> Kilos, ok not familiar with using 3G from a pc/laptop
[17:04] <BluesKaj> Kilos, if you don't get an answer here you could try the ##networking chat on this server.
[17:06] <Kilos> ty BluesKaj will ask there as well
[17:11] <BluesKaj> Kilos, is your phone an android or are you using a 3G usb dongle device ?
[17:12] <BluesKaj> we have such devices provided by some ISPs here in Canada, but i don't know much about them
[17:13] <Kilos> a 3g dongle BluesKaj
[17:28] <xenolyse> Anyone who got that bug when clicking icons in the launcher doesn't register?
[17:33] <trism> xenolyse: like bug 1283775 ?
[17:35] <xenolyse> trism: more like bug 1303325 .
[17:36] <xenolyse> Was just checking to see if anyone else had that bug and found a temp workaround
[17:36] <trism> xenolyse: oh that is probably because of the timeout, if you wait a minute or so can you open them again?
[17:39] <xenolyse> trism: nope. Reboot or reset unity doesn't work either. I can access their right-click meny though
[17:39] <xenolyse> and i can launch them from dash
[17:43] <trism> xenolyse: weird, I don't notice that here although I'm not using nvidia
[17:52] <xenolyse> trism: it's a mystery but yea, it's probably something to do with the nvidia driver.
[17:55] <trism> xenolyse: does middle click work? (if your mouse has the button that is)
[17:55] <xenolyse> trism: no, only right click.
[17:56] <xenolyse> I'll note that none of the options in right click menu does work when clicked
[17:58] <trism> xenolyse: are there any leftover processes running? does gedit stick around after closing it
[18:03] <xenolyse> trism: nope. I can open it gedit in dash, lock it to launcher and close it perfectly, but i can't open it again from launcher. Works fine if i open it in dash again and the launcher do indicate that it's running.  No, no leftover processes from gedit when closed.
[18:03] <xenolyse> I'm gonna try to change to graphic driver
[18:04] <xenolyse> the*
[18:12] <melkor> If I am using kubuntu 14.04, who do I ask about errors.
[18:12] <xenolyse> trism: It seems like the 331.38 from nvidida-331-updates(proprietary) does indeed work as it should without the bug. The bug only seems appear when Im using version 331.38 from nvidia-331(proprietary, tested).
[18:12] <bekks> melkor: you just ask in here.
[18:13] <melkor> kdewallet has died, when I login and it pops up I get an error 42.
[18:13] <melkor> I have no clue what that is.
[18:14] <melkor> Also is there a way to stop NetworkManager? I updated last night and when I restarted there was an error with qdbus and I couldnt get back to my desktop. I needed to stop NetworkManager so that I could use wpa_supplicant.
[18:23] <trism> melkor: sudo stop network-manager;
[18:25] <melkor> trism: Ill try that next time. I was trying to use service. Thank you.
[18:26] <trism> xenolyse: that is strange, now I'm curious what the difference between the two are
[18:26] <trism> melkor: hmm service should have worked too
[18:27] <melkor> The only thing I could find as a service was networking. And stopping that didn't do anything.
[18:27] <BluesKaj> can cinnamon be installed without unity or gnome ?
[18:29] <bekks> !info cinnamon
[18:29] <xenolyse> trism: what is even more strange is that one of the users writes in the comments of bug 1303325 that the opposite does work for him. That he got no problem with the tested version and that the updates version have this bug.
[18:29] <bekks> BluesKaj: It isnt part of Ubuntu, is it?
[18:33] <BluesKaj> bekks, somebody with kde was asking me in kubuntu
[18:34] <BluesKaj> bekks, I tried it , but that was after installing std ubuntu with unity
[18:35] <BluesKaj> i would ask in #ubuntu but I'm personna non grata there
[18:36] <k1l> BluesKaj: it uses the gnome base (as gnome and unity do too) but changes alot of stuff there which makes problems with unity and gnome-shell. so it was removed from debian and ubuntu.
[18:36] <IAmNotThatGuy> Hi. I just installed 14.04 RC over my 13.10. Trusty works fine for a while and then the screen freezes. The only option for me is to hold on the power button, shut down and start again. I am having NVIDIA GEFORCE 740 and a verified NVIDIA Driver. The DMESG looks clean btw
[18:36] <IAmNotThatGuy> Kindly advise
[18:37] <k1l> BluesKaj: but there is a PPA for installing cinnamon
[18:37] <BluesKaj> k1l, ahh , ok thanks I'll check for it.
[18:39] <trism> xenolyse: yeah, I just checked both packages, the nvidia installers in both packages have identical checksums, the only difference I see currently is renaming things to -updates, so I'm pretty stumped why that would work
[18:44] <xenolyse> trism: well, so far it seems to work.
[18:45] <Beldar> !reisub | IAmNotThatGuy hard shutdowns are not good.
[18:46] <IAmNotThatGuy> Thanks Beldar.
[18:47] <Beldar> no prob, not sure on graphics is all
[18:48] <IAmNotThatGuy> I am yet to try the x driver. I will check that later. If there is anything that I should check, I can do that too
[18:59] <kjetil_> Hi all, anyone having problems with latest uppgrade
[19:02] <GI_Jack> I can't get audio headset working in 14.04 any ideas?
[19:39] <warddr> Hello, did anyone by any chance got replicatorG to work on ubuntu 14.04?
[19:43] <xenolyse> trism: the bug is back so it seems like it has nothing to do with that.


[03:31] <stunts513> Can someone help me fix my live cd boot parameters?
[03:31] <stunts513> Something causes my graphics card to go Way outta the typical refresh rate zone, making the screen flicker
[08:44] <Psilocybin_Elf> Can I get transparent terminals in Lubuntu?
[10:42] <monsterwizard1> Hello?
[10:42] <monsterwizard1> Does anyone know how to make a program start at start up
[13:28] <leszek> hi
[14:49] <tew88> Hoping someone can help. Fairly new to Linux in general and am giving Lubuntu a try on my netbook. When I click to connect to a wireless network (after having entered the password), the desktop cuts out and the screen is filled with instead with text that refer to many different error codes (I'm guessing they're error codes).
[14:49] <tew88> Any suggestions?
[15:06] <frankbooth> tew88 that doesn't sound very good :/ are you using the alpha?
[15:11] <tew88> frankbooth: Nope
[15:12] <tew88> The last message is "PANIC OCCURRED, SWITCHING BACK TO TEXT CONSOLE"
[15:12] <tew88> Hit caps accidentally there!
[15:51] <frankbooth> tew88 sounds bad mate, unless you've solved it by now maybe you should make a thread at http://ubuntuforums.org/
[15:51] <frankbooth> I'm afraid I cannot help you
[15:53] <hyperair> tew88: take a photo and paste it in the thread
[15:53] <hyperair> it's probably a stack trace you're seeing.
[17:42] <kristian-guest> greetings
[17:42] <kristian-guest> trying to install 11.04 via usb, I get "error found in one file"
[17:42] <kristian-guest> bug?
[17:43] <bioterror> download iso again and remake usb pen drive
[17:44] <bioterror> and  confirm the md5sum
[17:44] <kristian-guest> yes
[17:45] <bioterror> tew88, you can look  /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors
[18:03] <kristian-guest> what's the checksum of 11.04 supposed to be?
[18:08] <bioterror> http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/11.04/MD5SUMS
[18:23] <kristian-guest> using unetbootin in Windows for this
[18:25] <kristian-guest> I *still* get the "errors found in 1 file" message
[18:25] <kristian-guest> trying #beginners
[19:11] <tew88> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1805649
[19:11] <tew88> Anyone have any suggestions?
[19:11] <tew88> It happens to be a Lubuntu install
[19:12] <tew88> But I've had the same effect with bog standard Ubuntu
[19:51] <Slater1> Hello. i'm having trouble with my lubuntu, it is freezing when i download torrents
[20:45] <bioterror> tew88, are you using 10.10 or 11.04?
[21:04] <tew88> bioterror: 11.04. It's solved now, thanks. I installed the -11 pre-proposed kernel and it's all working.
[21:06] <bioterror> yeah
[21:06] <bioterror> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/762496 could be related to that
[21:06] <tew88> Aye, looks like the one
[21:06] <tew88> Thanks for the interest though!
[21:06] <bioterror> np
[21:10] <bioterror> tew88, mark your ubuntuforums post as solved and post fix reply to it
[21:10] <bioterror> it will help someone who is seeking information
[21:11] <tew88> bioterror: Will do, but the solution is available on another thread (clearly I  didn't search well enough) - will link to that.


[06:44] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers!
[06:44] <oSoMoN> happy Friday
[06:49] <pieq> salut oSoMoN !
[06:52] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[06:53] <duflu> and pi
[06:53] <duflu> and pieq
[06:54] <pieq> hey duflu :)
[07:01] <oSoMoN> salut pieq
[07:01] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[07:09] <marcustomlinson> morning oSoMoN pieq duflu
[07:09] <oSoMoN> good morning marcustomlinson
[07:10] <marcustomlinson> oSoMoN: hi :) could you do me a favour and trigger this please: https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=disco&arch=amd64&package=libreoffice&ppa=marcustomlinson/libreoffice&trigger=libreoffice/1:6.2.8-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[07:11] <oSoMoN> done
[07:12] <marcustomlinson> thanks
[07:22] <duflu> Morning marcustomlinson
[08:26] <Laney> yo de yo
[08:32] <clobrano> good morning everyone 0/
[08:32] <clobrano> Happy release day :)
[08:33] <oSoMoN> yooo Laney
[08:33] <oSoMoN> good morning clobrano
[08:33] <oSoMoN> technically release day was yesterday, but today is a perfect day to try it out :)
[08:34] <clobrano> :D
[08:37] <duflu> Morning Laney
[09:10] <Laney> hey oSoMoN duflu
[09:19] <marcustomlinson> morning willcooke Laney clobrano
[09:19] <willcooke> howdy gang
[09:25] <marcustomlinson> Well I'm impressed. I've got all 4 CPUs pegged at 100% building a snap and the desktop is still highly responsive, activities and workspace switch animations smooth
[09:30] <marcustomlinson> Congrats on another great release team :)
[09:31] <duflu> Morning willcooke
[14:24] <hellsworth> morning desktopers
[14:24] <oSoMoN> hello hellsworth
[14:24] <hellsworth> happy friday oSoMoN :)
[14:25] <oSoMoN> yeah, happy Friday!
[14:25] <marcustomlinson> morning hellsworth
[14:25] <kenvandine> good morning hellsworth
[14:26] <hellsworth> hi yall!
[14:26] <hellsworth> oh marcustomlinson i see you fixed the pango build (reading your email now)!
[14:30] <hellsworth> marcustomlinson, how did you know to go right to usr/lib/pkgconfig/harfbuzz.pc? i mean how did you know that *this* is where the hardcoded paths were?
[14:30] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth: this exact thing happened with gee (you'll see the same seds there)
[14:31] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth: but you'll see all over the place pkgconfigs need to be fiddled with
[14:32] <hellsworth> ok i'll watch for this in the future
[14:33] <marcustomlinson> but it's the nature of a project like this, new territory, you may easily run into things we've never seen
[14:34] <marcustomlinson> don't be discouraged by the amount of time and rebuilds it takes, it's just how it is
[14:34] <hellsworth> ok thanks :)
[14:45] <marcustomlinson> desktoppers: anyone seeing this a lot in their journal? gnome-shell[2126]: _clutter_stage_queue_event: assertion 'CLUTTER_IS_STAGE (stage)' failed
[14:45] <Trevinho> marcustomlinson: yes, and I've already fixed it upstream... but nothing too worry about
[14:45] <hellsworth> marcustomlinson, why does pango have PC=$SNAPCRAFT_PART_INSTALL/usr/lib/pkgconfig/harfbuzz.pc when atk has PC=$SNAPCRAFT_PART_INSTALL/usr/lib/$SNAPCRAFT_ARCH_TRIPLET/pkgconfig/atk.pc?
[14:45] <marcustomlinson> Trevinho: really, harmless?
[14:45] <hellsworth> that atk PC dir doesn't even exist
[14:46] <Trevinho> it's just that any keyobard state event tries to notify cluter, while it's a kind of event that it should not handle
[14:46] <Trevinho> marcustomlinson: yes, no risk...
[14:46] <marcustomlinson> ok thanks Trevinho
[14:47] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth: good question. I don't know :P
[14:47] <hellsworth> ok i'll look into it then :)
[14:47] <hellsworth> i just thought you had some _reason_ :)
[14:47] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth: I mean, I know that some packages like to store their pkgconfig in different places, but I didn't know the atk one didn't exist
[14:49] <marcustomlinson> pkconfigs are usually in one of: usr/share/pkgconfig, usr/lib/pkgconfig, or usr/lib/$SNAPCRAFT_ARCH_TRIPLET/pkgconfig
[14:50] <marcustomlinson> Trevinho: is this related: xdg-desktop-por[2036]: Failed to get application states: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window list: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: App introspection not allowed
[14:53] <hellsworth> i was wrong. that dir exists. i was thinking that $SNAPCRAFT_PART_INSTALL was just /root/parts when it's really /root/parts/atk/install
[14:54] <marcustomlinson> :)
[14:56] <kenvandine> sil2100: I've opened and closed stable/ubuntu-20.04 tracks for all our seeded snaps
[14:56] <kenvandine> sil2100: thanks for the reminder :)
[15:03] <sil2100> kenvandine: thank you!
[15:05] <kenvandine> I'm just glad you reminded me before i broke the daily images :)
[15:21] <infinity> kenvandine: All "our" seeded snaps, by that you mean ubuntu-desktop, I assume?
[15:22] <infinity> kenvandine: Do you have access to do the same for chromium?  kylin has that seeded.
[15:23] <ogra> is chromium actually seeded as snap
[15:23] <ogra> i thoght we kept the deb and have it switch to snap later in the process
[15:23] <ogra> (the empty deb with the transition scriptery that is)
[15:24] <infinity> ogra: kylin has it seeded as a snap.
[15:24] <ogra> ah
[15:30] <kenvandine> infinity: i think i can
[15:34] <kenvandine> infinity: nope, i do not have access
[15:34] <kenvandine> oSoMoN: ^^ can you open and close stable/ubuntu-20.04 for chromium?
[15:36] <kenvandine> oSoMoN: and invite me to collaborate so i can help out with this in the future :)
[15:47] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, yep, let me do that
[15:49] <oSoMoN> open/close dance done
[15:50] <oSoMoN> and invited you to collaborate
[17:00] <oSoMoN> I'm calling it a day, have a great week-end everyone!
[18:25]  * CarlenWhite commits the dark arts that is sending a fax.


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