[11:15] <tiglionabbit> ```bulldogg: chromium and neverball shouldn't be too hard on it
[11:15] <HappyFool> kjon: try 'man dpkg-scanpackages' maybe
[11:15] <adwait> HappyFool: k
[11:15] <```bulldogg> Well I have a P4 3.0, 1M L2 cache 1G of Ram and an 80G SATA but have onboard video
[11:15] <HappyFool> kjon: i think that lets you setup your own repository
[11:16] <Hieronymus> tiglionabbit: that was esr's jargon file
[11:16] <kjon> HappyFool: How do I do that? Just specifying the packages' location?
[11:17] <ColonelKernel> ncioe
[11:17] <HappyFool> kjon: i'm not sure -- try reading the manul page ('man dpkg-scanpackages')
[11:17] <ColonelKernel> nice I mean
[11:17] <HappyFool> manual, even
[11:17] <ColonelKernel> gj on the distro
[11:17] <ColonelKernel> finally. gnome 2.10 works the way i want it to
[11:17] <kjon> okay, thx. happyfool.
[11:18] <kjon> thanx for the advice.
[11:18] <tiglionabbit> hmm, this one seems ok
[11:18] <tiglionabbit> ubotu jargon is http://jargon.watson-net.com/
[11:18] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[11:18] <tiglionabbit> !dpkg
[11:18] <ubotu> [dpkg]  Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg --install package.deb
[11:18] <newbie> can i share folder with samba over the internet?
[11:19] <tiglionabbit> newbie: I don't think you can.  I thought SMB was only for local networks.    Chances are they're mine
[11:20] <IceDC571> !ubotu
[11:20] <ubotu> IceDC571: I haven't a clue
[11:21] <adwait> tiglionabbit: hehe..no not deleting anything
[11:21] <tiglionabbit> ubotu ubotu is uh...  Thaaats me!
[11:21] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[11:21] <tyler> OK...how do i get mysql runningt
[11:21] <tiglionabbit> !ubotu
[11:21] <ubotu> I guess ubotu is uh...  Thaaats me!
[11:21] <newbie> i am on the samba site now all i found so far is for lan
[11:21] <adwait> !adwait
[11:21] <ubotu> from memory, adwait is "Adwait, the cool one"
[11:21] <newbie> thanx guys
[11:21] <adwait> :D
[11:21] <tiglionabbit> !samba
[11:21] <ubotu> [samba]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[11:22] <tyler> im on apatche
[11:22] <tyler> why is sambar better? lol
[11:22] <tapo> !pnet
[11:22] <ubotu> tapo: Bugger all, i dunno
[11:22] <tiglionabbit> adwait: the admins will kill you for doing that
[11:22] <adwait> tiglionabbit: heh....well i am making him forget things after playing with them :)
[11:23] <tiglionabbit> adwait: the one rule for ubotu seems to be "no personal name entries"
[11:23] <jesper> Hi everyone.. and congrats on the new Foundation.. sounds terriffic :-)
[11:23] <Fikrann> Funny thing that two best spots in gnomebaker's ui are reserved for two least performed operations.
[11:23] <adwait> tiglionabbit: hmm........k thx 4 tellin me :)
[11:23] <tiglionabbit> they deleted mine =`{
[11:23] <tiglionabbit> !names
[11:23] <ubotu> names are something you should not add in me
[11:23] <adwait> whr doe ubotu run?
[11:23] <adwait> *does
[11:24] <tiglionabbit> doh, lost connection
[11:24] <tiglionabbit> anyway
[11:24] <tiglionabbit> !names
[11:24] <ubotu> names are something you should not add in me
[11:24] <Madpilot> Fikrann: which two options?
[11:24] <tyler> how do i get mysql running?
[11:24] <IceDC571> !ubotu reveal your location now via GPS
[11:24] <ubotu> IceDC571: Bugger all, i dunno
[11:24] <adwait> hehehe
[11:24] <tiglionabbit> tyler: I think your squirrel will start running if you pull out a whip
[11:24] <Fikrann> Madpilot, Erase CD-RW and format DVD-RW.
[11:25] <IceDC571> doesn't Amaranth run ubotu?
[11:25] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: I think so...
[11:25] <tyler> lol..
[11:25] <jcoxon> hi all, a quick question - trying to compile e17 and one of the libs is looking for zlib.h, how do i set a cflag for its location?
[11:25] <adwait> k
[11:25] <tyler> i got PHP to work..
[11:25] <tyler> but i need to know how to get mysql running
[11:25] <tiglionabbit> tyler: yay
[11:25] <Hieronymus> !mysql
[11:25] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:25] <Madpilot> Fikrann: in the two top-left button locations - you have a point...
[11:25] <adwait> !!
[11:26] <ubotu> adwait: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:26] <jacquesmerde> whiprush: i know this is a naive question, but with so many open source distro's, why is it so hard to fix a problem that so many other distros have solved. is it so hard to "port" solutions across distros?
[11:26] <tyler> Warning: mysql_error(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in /var/www/phpBB2/db/mysql4.php on line 330
[11:26] <tyler> Warning: mysql_errno(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in /var/www/phpBB2/db/mysql4.php on line 331
[11:26] <tyler> phpBB : Critical Error
[11:26] <tyler> Could not connect to the database ..what do i do..
[11:26] <adwait> !!
[11:26] <tiglionabbit> ubotu ! is what you put before a word I know to make me say it
[11:26] <ubotu> ...but ! is already something else...
[11:26] <tiglionabbit> aw
[11:26] <tiglionabbit> !!
[11:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, ! is "Single exclamation will do.....really"
[11:26] <HappyFool> tyler: read the docs
[11:26] <tyler> what docs
[11:26] <Fikrann> Madpilot, I'd put "Copy CD" and "Start new CD" there
[11:26] <tiglionabbit> adwait: try and make them flow in a sentence
[11:27] <adwait> hmm
[11:27] <HappyFool> tyler: i see a 'mysql-doc' package
[11:27] <Hieronymus> !MOTU
[11:27] <ubotu> I heard motu is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTU/
[11:27] <Hieronymus> !UniverseCandidates
[11:27] <ubotu> I don't know, Hieronymus
[11:27] <tyler> HappyFool: were is it thou..im new to mysql
[11:27] <adwait> !!
[11:27] <ubotu> well, ! is what u add before a sentence to talk to me
[11:27] <tiglionabbit> ubotu ! is too many exclamation marks for a single sentence.
[11:27] <ubotu> ...but ! is already something else...
[11:27] <tyler> i mean lunic
[11:27] <tiglionabbit> !!
[11:27] <HappyFool> tyler: also look in /usr/share/doc/php4, /usr/share/doc/mysql
[11:27] <tiglionabbit> grr
[11:27] <tyler> thks
[11:27] <HappyFool> tyler: mysql-doc is a package you need to install with synaptic
[11:27] <adwait> lol
[11:27] <tiglionabbit> adwait: stop changing it
[11:28] <Hieronymus> ubotu: universecandidates is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates
[11:28] <ubotu> Hieronymus: okay
[11:28] <Hieronymus> !universecandidate
[11:28] <Madpilot> Fikrann: makes sense. filed a bug on it?
[11:28] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I haven't a clue
[11:28] <Hieronymus> !universecandidates
[11:28] <ubotu> somebody said universecandidates was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates
[11:28] <Hieronymus> ubotu forget universecandidates
[11:28] <ubotu> Hieronymus: i forgot universecandidates
[11:28] <IceDC571> isnt it neat how every new media player in linux has native ogg vorbis support?
[11:28] <adwait> !!
[11:28] <ubotu> [!]  what u add before a sentence to talk to me
[11:28] <Hieronymus> ubotu: universecandidates is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates
[11:28] <ubotu> okay, Hieronymus
[11:28] <Hieronymus> !universecandidates
[11:28] <Fikrann> Madpilot, no .. I just checked out gnomebaker for the first time.. I usually use k3b
[11:28] <tiglionabbit> adwait: Don't use u!
[11:29] <tyler> HappyFool: its not there.
[11:29] <adwait> tiglionabbit: ?
[11:29] <tiglionabbit> plz man, dnt abbrviate!
[11:29] <tiglionabbit> i h8 it
[11:29] <adwait> hehe
[11:29] <IceDC571> from now on.. its Kool3B
[11:29] <Hieronymus> !rot13
[11:29] <tiglionabbit> !rot12
[11:29] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: Are you smoking crack?
[11:29] <tiglionabbit> !rot13
[11:29] <ThreeDayMonk> tiglionabbit: my pet hate is when people make a request with "pls".  It devalues the point of saying "please"!
[11:29] <Hieronymus> ubotu rot13 say "HI" to tiglionabbit !
[11:29] <tiglionabbit> when you ask it stuff in private, it wont tell it to us
[11:30] <ubotu> fnl "UV" gb gvtyvbanoovg !
[11:30] <Madpilot> Fikrann: haven't tried k3b yet. only owned a burner for a month, though!
[11:30] <IceDC571> !Amaranth
[11:30] <IceDC571> lol
[11:30] <tyler> so were else is mysql server at..
[11:30] <tiglionabbit> ThreeDayMonk: I was requesting that he don't abbreviate.  I was being silly.  Don't you get it?
[11:30] <ThreeDayMonk> yeah, I got that!  I was just agreeing with you that I hate abbreviations like that.
[11:30] <tiglionabbit> !rot13
[11:30] <Fikrann> Madpilot, k3b is >the< cd/dvd mastering program for linux.
[11:31] <Madpilot> ubotu knows rot13... that's cool...
[11:31] <ubotu> Madpilot: Wish i knew
[11:31] <capi> Is postfix for sending AND recieving mail, or just sending?
[11:31] <Madpilot> :)
[11:31] <Hieronymus> capi: man postfix
[11:31] <Madpilot> Fikrann: I'll have to try it out, then.
[11:31] <Hieronymus> !info postfix
[11:31] <adwait> !rtfm
[11:31] <ubotu> postfix: (A high-performance mail transport agent), section mail, is important. Version: 2.1.5-9ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 772 kB, Installed size: 1892 kB
[11:31] <ubotu> somebody said rtfm was Read The "Fine" Manual
[11:31] <IceDC571> !Amaranth
[11:31] <tiglionabbit> !ubuntu
[11:31] <ubotu> [ubuntu]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org or FAQ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[11:32] <adwait> capi.......wasnt really for u......just wanted to use tht once :D
[11:32] <IceDC571> i love it when he stabs things
[11:32] <adwait> no reason :p
[11:32] <IceDC571> how lovely
[11:32] <Madpilot> are data CDs burned in Gnomebaker automatically multi-session, or is there some setting that I cant' find?
[11:33] <Fikrann> Madpilot, no idea, but I'm pretty sure they aren't by default.
[11:33] <IceDC571> thats why i like to use the terminal for burning cds
[11:33] <tiglionabbit> !ubuntu
[11:33] <ubotu> I guess ubuntu is an easy-to-use desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntulinux.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:33] <IceDC571> !fedora
[11:33] <ubotu> No idea, IceDC571
[11:33] <IceDC571> someone define fedora ;)
[11:33] <adwait> ubotu fedora is a buggy OS my redhat
[11:33] <ubotu> okay, adwait
[11:33] <adwait> !fedora
[11:34] <IceDC571> my redhat?
[11:34] <IceDC571> hmm...
[11:34] <tiglionabbit> !fedora
[11:34] <adwait> uuh
[11:34] <ubotu> methinks fedora is a buggy OS my redhat
[11:34] <adwait> ubotu forget fedora
[11:34] <ubotu> i forgot fedora, adwait
[11:34] <capi> Well, man doesn't really answer my question. I'm asking because I can send mail fine, but I can't recieve it. I telnet to port 25 and it doesn't seem like anything is there, just want to make sure I'm using the right program.
[11:34] <adwait> ubotu fedora is a buggy OS by redhat
[11:34] <tiglionabbit> !fedora
[11:34] <ubotu> ...but fedora is already something else...
[11:34] <Madpilot> ubotu windows is a bad idea
[11:34] <ubotu> ...but windows is already something else...
[11:34] <tiglionabbit> !fedora
[11:34] <Madpilot> drat...
[11:34] <Madpilot> !windows
[11:34] <ubotu> I heard windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[11:34] <tiglionabbit> !alternative
[11:34] <ubotu> well, alternative is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[11:34] <gm78> Hey, does anyone know if it is possible to install win32codecs on an amd64 and have them be used by VLC et al?
[11:34] <tiglionabbit> !fedora
[11:34] <ubotu> well, fedora is what you use when you haven't heard of Ubuntu
[11:35] <adwait> lol
[11:35] <IceDC571> what the crap?
[11:35] <tiglionabbit> that's mine
[11:35] <Hieronymus> !ubuntu
[11:35] <IceDC571> why didnt he know when i asked it?
[11:35] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:35] <IceDC571> !gentoo
[11:35] <ubotu> IceDC571: Bugger all, i dunno
[11:35] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: cuz I just defined it
[11:35] <adwait> !microsoft
[11:35] <ubotu> adwait: No idea
[11:35] <marc> lo
[11:36] <Fikrann> I can't get Qemu to compile .. *sniff*
[11:36] <tiglionabbit> you guys, lets do our defining in the channel window so it isn't so hard
[11:36] <adwait> :(.......anybody want that one?
[11:36] <Madpilot> ubotu microsoft is evil
[11:36] <ubotu> okay, Madpilot
[11:36] <capi> If postfix was working what would I see when I telnet localhost 25?
[11:36] <Madpilot> !microsoft
[11:36] <tiglionabbit> ubotu pizza is delicious
[11:36] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[11:36] <Hieronymus> Madpilot: don't do that
[11:36] <Hieronymus> !conduct
[11:36] <ubotu> somebody said conduct was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view
[11:36] <IceDC571> !apple
[11:36] <ubotu> I don't know, IceDC571
[11:36] <IceDC571> !freebsd
[11:36] <ubotu> IceDC571: Are you smoking crack?
[11:36] <tiglionabbit> ubotu apple is a fruit
[11:36] <Hieronymus> ubuntu forget pizza
[11:36] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: okay
[11:36] <Madpilot> Hieronymus: couldn't resist. will fix it
[11:36] <Hieronymus> ubuntu forget apple
[11:36] <tiglionabbit> Hieronymus: ay
[11:36] <adwait> !microsoft
[11:36] <Madpilot> ubotu forget microsoft
[11:36] <ubotu> I guess microsoft is evil
[11:36] <ubotu> Madpilot: i forgot microsoft
[11:36] <Hieronymus> ubotu: forget apple
[11:36] <ubotu> i forgot apple, Hieronymus
[11:37] <marc> While on the subject of apple, is there anyway to get Gnome to mimic OS X's application menu behaviour?
[11:37] <Fikrann> Hey, don't overload poor bot .. it might get memory leaks.
[11:37] <adwait> marc: i hear xfce is something like tht
[11:37] <tiglionabbit> marc: sort of, yes
[11:38] <tiglionabbit> marc: I've seen screenshots...  but yeah, xfce has the lil'star iconbox, which is more like it
[11:38] <marc> adwait, you can do it in KDE too
[11:38] <Hieronymus> ubotu: motugames is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUGames
[11:38] <ubotu> Hieronymus: okay
[11:38] <tiglionabbit> what is that motu thing?
[11:38] <adwait> marc: hmm.......i used KDE just once......like gnome better though :)
[11:38] <tiglionabbit> !motu
[11:38] <ubotu> motu is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTU/
[11:38] <Hieronymus> ubotu: newgames is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUNEWGames
[11:38] <ubotu> Hieronymus: okay
[11:38] <tiglionabbit> what is motu?
[11:38] <Hieronymus> Masters of the Universe
[11:38] <unome> guys, abusing the bot will just make them kill it.
[11:39] <marc> tiglionabbit, I hear its not in gnome by default because it breaks gnomes HCI standards..  Cable?
[11:40] <adwait> ADSL
[11:40] <IceDC571> ahh.. assholeDSL
[11:41] <adwait> hehe
[11:41] <adwait> thru phone line......so probably some problem with the phone line or god knows wht else
[11:41] <IceDC571> adwait: where are you at?
[11:41] <adwait> but one things 4 sure.........those bastards are probably not going to fix it till sunday
[11:41] <ColonelKernel> adwait, ive been having problems bcause my ISP's DNS servers are workign poorly
[11:41] <adwait> IceDC571: india
[11:41] <marc> adwait, Probably birds on the phone line :P
[11:41] <IceDC571> oh wait i knew that
[11:41] <adwait> marc: phone lines are underground :)
[11:41] <Fikrann> adwait, you might want to restart your modem .. it does help here, usually.
[11:41] <ColonelKernel> I redid my /etc/resolv.conf to point at qwests DNS servers
[11:42] <IceDC571> adwait: maybe kids playing in the mud on your line?
[11:42] <adwait> Fikrann: did it already ......restarted the router/restaet my pc :p
[11:42] <Fikrann> adwait, ahh, bummer.
[11:42] <ColonelKernel> adwait, is it still slow after that?
[11:42] <adwait> IceDC571: hmm......i dont think kids can dig abt 30-40 feet deep and then crack open tht pipe tht holds the telephone wires :p
[11:43] <adwait> ColonelKernel: yeah :(....it speeds up for a while.then becomes slow again
[11:43] <marc> adwait, I have an overhead phoneline for about 200 feet before it go's underground :P
[11:43] <Fikrann> adwait, 30 feet? That's quite deep
[11:43] <adwait> marc: it rains pretty heaviily here, so if they had overhead phones, our lines would go dead all thru the monsoon
[11:43] <ColonelKernel> adwait, you ought to check out www.dslreports.com - do a speed test and a packet loss test
[11:43] <IceDC571> maybe its an underwater phone line
[11:44] <marc> adwait, Maybe you got moles on the line
[11:44] <albacker> guys, i installed the new kernel 2.6.12-3 using breezy repo. than it installed glibc too. while using gcc it didnt recognize the C libraries, like stdio.h string.h. so i thought that installing glibc-dev would help. when trying to apt-get isntall it it got up with some errors, conflicting errors. what should i do ? i thought its because of the unstable kernel ! is that right ? can i get the kernel from warty repo ?
[11:44] <marc> Or even Wombles!
[11:44] <adwait> Fikrann: hmm.....thts how deep it is i believe.....just an estimate coz they seem to dig pretty deep to lay them
[11:44] <IceDC571> maybe someone is digging to india
[11:44] <IceDC571> i think its Amaranth
[11:44] <adwait> IceDC571: hehe........
[11:44] <marc> THey were patching through to china, for those ever so cheap call rates and uber fast dsl
[11:44] <Fikrann> IceDC571, then yes, it'd have to be deep, but only under water.. usually they put it at about 6 to 10 feet.
[11:44] <adwait> marc: :p
[11:45] <ColonelKernel> albacker, i highly reccomend you give the latest stable 2.6.12 on kernel.org a shot
[11:45] <ColonelKernel> its really stable and smooth
[11:45] <ColonelKernel> if youre a fan of 2.6.12 that is
[11:45] <IceDC571> like butter
[11:45] <Fikrann> albacker, read the topic.
[11:45] <ColonelKernel> im building 2.6.13-rc2 right now
[11:45] <albacker> ColonelKernel: you mean i should get it the .deb ?
[11:45] <Madpilot> later, all. need some sleep...
[11:45] <IceDC571> i want to rub butter all over ubotu
[11:45] <adwait> gnite madpilot
[11:46] <albacker> well i dont want to compile it myself.
[11:46] <albacker> i got the kernel .deb and it got all hardware configuration from the old kernel.
[11:46] <ColonelKernel> so is the base install pretty much like deb's install with gnome-desktop-environment installed?
[11:46] <Fikrann> albacker, trying to install breezy by updating from Hoary probably screwed your system.
[11:46] <Fikrann> albacker, you will have problems.
[11:46] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: not really.  It's got a lot more desktop-y stuff, and no compiling things
[11:47] <albacker> Fikrann: so what to do ?
[11:47] <IceDC571> fedora's installer crashed right when i loaded it
[11:47] <ColonelKernel> yeah I had to install a buttload of dev packages and gcc and zlibc and all sorts of stuff, until someone clued me in to build-essental
[11:47] <IceDC571> it happens in every system i try
[11:47] <ColonelKernel> then it was like butta
[11:47] <IceDC571> move the mouse before anaconda comes up.. *crash*
[11:48] <ColonelKernel> uh oh
[11:48] <adwait> hehe......IceD571, thts because of some disk geomtery error or sometihg?
[11:48] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: yeah.  You still will need -dev packages though, for specific compiles
[11:48] <adwait> ooh
[11:48] <Fikrann> albacker, rip out your system and install pure Hoary again. Trying to revert changes will put you into even deeper problems. I know because I did that just two days ago.
[11:48] <adwait> fc3=buggy
[11:48] <albacker> you guys suggest me to get the .deb from kernel.org ?
[11:48] <IceDC571> seriously try it.. any fedora core installer.. move the mouse before the install gui comes up
[11:49] <Fikrann> albacker, you won't find .deb files on kernel.org.
[11:49] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: that's one reason I love whiptail
[11:49] <albacker> Fikrann: ok i installed beatrix [a ubuntu based] .. it uses warty repos. and it has 2.6.7 i havent gone to 2.6.12 yet. because i was afraid that it would happen again.
[11:49] <IceDC571> what?
[11:49] <IceDC571> !info whiptail
[11:49] <ubotu> whiptail: (Displays user-friendly dialog boxes from shell scripts), section base, is standard. Version: 0.51.6-20ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 31 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[11:49] <tiglionabbit> whiptail is the console graphics they use for dialog boxes in the ubuntu installer
[11:49] <albacker> Fikrann: 2.6.12 isnt in warty repo.
[11:49] <tyler> weres the place with all the codes..
[11:49] <IceDC571> ohh i see
[11:49] <tyler> the website
[11:50] <albacker> what if i search for 2.6.12 in breezy ?
[11:50] <IceDC571> i love that installer, ive been using it since debian sarge was unstable
[11:50] <tyler> can somone give me the URL?
[11:50] <tiglionabbit> try it out.  say "whiptail --msgbox "Hey what's up doods" 10 40
[11:50] <Fikrann> albacker, get kernel source tarball from kernel org and compile it yourself.
[11:50] <HappyFool> tyler: what codes?
[11:50] <tiglionabbit> oops, I broke my "s
[11:50] <tyler> the place with all the codes so i can install all the extra things.
[11:50] <HappyFool> !sources
[11:50] <albacker> Fikrann: that is what i didnt want to do.
[11:50] <ubotu> it has been said that sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[11:51] <albacker> Fikrann: i know it will take a lot.
[11:51] <tyler> like media codes micromedia flash...you know
[11:51] <Fikrann> albacker, DO NOT TRY USING BREEZY IF YOU HAD NOT INSTALLED IT FRESH.
[11:51] <tiglionabbit> whiptail --yesno "Do you want some spam?" 10 40
[11:51] <ColonelKernel> lovely spam!
[11:51] <IceDC571> well i'd say dont try breezy at all unless you're a developer
[11:51] <albacker> Fikrann: i installed beatrix again. its a fresh install. its 2.6.7 in it. what to do ?? except compiling kernel.]
[11:51] <Fikrann> albacker, about 25 min on P3 600MHz, about 10min on my P-M 1.6
[11:52] <tyler> HappyFool: so...were is the website
[11:52] <daniels> Fikrann: why?  upgrading to breezy should just work fine.
[11:52] <HappyFool> tyler: ah. codecs
[11:52] <HappyFool> !restricted
[11:52] <ubotu> methinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:52] <IceDC571> daniels: hey, you're not idle :)
[11:52] <HappyFool> tyler: try that one
[11:52] <Fikrann> daniels, it doesnt. I tried that two days ago and had to reinstall system.
[11:52] <nightswim> what is the gnome bittorrent client called?
[11:52] <albacker> Fikrann:  i dontl ike responding to all the questions.
[11:52] <nightswim> is that bittornado?
[11:52] <daniels> IceDC571: not as idle as I may seem
[11:52] <albacker> Fikrann: is there any option that configures everything from 2.6.7 ?
[11:53] <daniels> Fikrann: if an upgrade is broken, then a clean install will not be any better.
[11:53] <Fikrann> albacker, you can use 2.6.10-5 from Hoary. If you want 2.6.12, go compile it yourself.
[11:53] <IceDC571> nightswim: gnome-btdownload
[11:53] <Fikrann> albacker, yes, make oldconfig.
[11:53] <daniels> Fikrann: in fact, a clean install is guaranteed to be *worse*, given that I helpfully broke clean installs of xserver-xorg last week, and haven't yet fixed it.
[11:53] <tiglionabbit> !info bittornado-gui
[11:53] <daniels> albacker: why do you want 2.6.12 so desperately?
[11:53] <ubotu> bittornado-gui: (Bittorrent client with enhanced GUI interface), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.3.8-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 37 kB, Installed size: 236 kB
[11:53] <nightswim> IceDC571: thanks
[11:53] <tyler> HappyFool: i ment the one that has like 150 black boxes full of codes
[11:53] <albacker> because im bored with the 2.6.7 !
[11:53] <Fikrann> daniels, I meant install from the Colony cd.
[11:53] <marc> !info gdesklets
[11:53] <albacker> and there is this usb bug in 2.6.7
[11:53] <ubotu> gdesklets: (an advanced architecture for desktop applets), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.34.3-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 358 kB, Installed size: 2104 kB
[11:54] <HappyFool> tyler: i do not know what you are talking about, sorry
[11:54] <daniels> Fikrann: if upgrades are broken, then upgrades are broken
[11:54] <Coyctecm> anybody knows software like macromedia flash mx?
[11:54] <Fikrann> albacker, then switch to 2.6.10
[11:54] <adwait> m out ppl
[11:54] <adwait> bbye
[11:54] <IceDC571> nightswim: actually it might be something else, im not sure
[11:54] <tiglionabbit> Coyctecm: what about it?
[11:54] <albacker> Fikrann: get them from hoary ? breezy?
[11:54] <Fikrann> daniels, yes, but colony cd is supposed not to be broken that much.
[11:55] <IceDC571> nightswim: actually i was right the first time
[11:55] <Fikrann> albacker, you can get 2.6.10 from hoary
[11:55] <cyphase> is LimeWire any good?
[11:55] <tiglionabbit> cyphase: there's gtk-gnutella
[11:55] <IceDC571> cyphase: i dont think so..
[11:55] <daniels> Fikrann: oh, colony 2.  right.  but then you're stuck with not dist-upgrading, which leaves you open to security holes, running on old software which defeats the point of breezy, etc.
[11:55] <IceDC571> i'd use emule
[11:55] <IceDC571> ack
[11:55] <Coyctecm> limewire is bad...shows ads...
[11:55] <IceDC571> i didnt say that
[11:55] <IceDC571>  i meant amule
[11:55] <Fikrann> cyphase, if you want your system to work like a half-rotten zombie, sure.
[11:55] <cyphase> tiglionabbit, it doesn't look so hot. and i'm not talking about interface
[11:55] <cyphase> lol
[11:55] <tyler> HappyFool: i mean the one so u can install like realplayer and like Xine and so on
[11:55] <Coyctecm> newist amule for ubuntu? 2.03?
[11:55] <Fikrann> daniels, yes, you're right.
[11:56] <IceDC571> but what the hell is legal on edonkey these days?
[11:56] <HappyFool> tyler: have you read the RestrictedFormats page ?
[11:56] <HappyFool> !restricted
[11:56] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:56] <cyphase> i do use amule
[11:56] <cyphase> it's running right now
[11:56] <cyphase> but..
[11:56] <Coyctecm> what version?
[11:56] <irakli> I wanted to install some fonts firs i write 1.  " cache search cyrillic"  2. sudo fc-cache -f -v
[11:56] <HappyFool> tyler: that covers many movie/audio/dvd codec issues
[11:56] <marc> Coyctecm, you can program flash files in eclipse, but i doubt thats any help
[11:56] <tiglionabbit> !info totem-xine
[11:56] <ubotu> totem-xine: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 633 kB, Installed size: 3788 kB
[11:56] <IceDC571> i think ubotu is reaching its highest peak usage today
[11:56] <cyphase> 2.0.0rc7
[11:56] <Fikrann> daniels, I need to get some pc emulator running .. I'd test out Breezy and put some bug reports, but I'm no longer inclined to touch my base system.
[11:57] <marc> !info xpilot
[11:57] <ubotu> xpilot: (Multi-player tactical game for X), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 4.5.5beta.20031222-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[11:57] <Coyctecm> marc: can I? Oh, of course I would test it out
[11:57] <ColonelKernel> very nice sound engine
[11:57] <ColonelKernel> very, very nice
[11:57] <IceDC571> ColonelKernel: what? lol
[11:57] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: what are you talking about?
[11:58] <irakli> I wanted to install some fonts firs i write 1.  " cache search cyrillic"  2. sudo fc-cache -f -v
[11:58] <Coyctecm> cyphase: newest is 2.03 but I don't think it has any matter
[11:58] <irakli> help me
[11:58] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, I use an audigy 2 and the sound server is really nice on ubuntu
[11:58] <tiglionabbit> irakli: ??  you're doing it wrong
[11:58] <ColonelKernel> just giving props to the developers I guess
[11:58] <IceDC571> tiglionabbit: i have to admit, its a bit better in windows
[11:59] <marc> Coyctecm, You may want to check out --> http://f4l.sourceforge.net/
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: really?  I thought the default setup for Hoary kind of sucked
[11:59] <IceDC571> i notice the difference... but it still is nice in *nix
[11:59] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, works great here
[11:59] <IceDC571> i want to get an M-Audio card and hear what it sounds like in linux
[11:59] <marc> I want to get a laptop, any suggestions in the sub 700 mark?
[11:59] <IceDC571> i think the best card to get is the Live! right now, its cheap and it sounds beautiful
[11:59] <beowu1f> can anyone tell me what the name of the app. is running on top right corner of this desktop http://www.tuxmachines.org/images/julyclean.jpg
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: well, my sound chipset probably sucks anyway, so what do I know about how it should sound =P
[12:00] <albacker> Fikrann: http://www.watsky.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?action=search2  ----have a look at post number 23.  is that wrong /?
[12:00] <marc> super karamba i beleive
[12:00] <IceDC571> tiglionabbit: what sound chipset are you using?
[12:00] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, I have never had good results off of non sb cards
[12:00] <marc> beowu1f, Isnt that a superkaramba applet?
[12:00] <ColonelKernel> they always have random problems
[12:00] <IceDC571> ColonelKernel: i cant notice the difference between the live! and audigy's
[12:01] <ColonelKernel> emu10k1 is good though and im pretty sure I could pull off multitrack recording with real time effects
[12:01] <Coyctecm> marc: thanks! I must try that out
[12:01] <marc> Coyctecm, Nps :)
[12:01] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: says intel 82801db-ich4 and Cirrus Logic CS4299 rev 4
[12:01] <tiglionabbit> I have no idea what that means though
[12:01] <beowu1f> marc, thanks .. will investigate
[12:01] <IceDC571> tiglionabbit: get a sb live! for cheap.. it sounds good
[12:01] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: this is a laptop =P
[12:01] <marc> beowu1f, If you are using gnome, you can consider gdesklets as an alternative, IMHO  I beleive it to be better than karamba
[12:02] <ColonelKernel> IceDC571, I think maybe its just the onboard firewire and ports for external controller, Im pretty sure the actual PU on the card is the same - but I could be mistaken.
[12:02] <marc> beowu1f, If you have your universe repo's added you can install both using synaptic
[12:02] <Fikrann> albacker, that addy yelds 404
[12:02] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[12:02] <ubotu> [repositories]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:03] <IceDC571> ColonelKernel: they're not the same.. i've got my pots re-done on the audigy 2 and it sounds better than anything you could buy right now
[12:03] <albacker> Fikrann: oh you probably have to be a meber :(
[12:03] <albacker> wait
[12:03] <IceDC571> but i dont notice the difference between my live card
[12:03] <ColonelKernel> pots?
[12:03] <ColonelKernel> telephony?
[12:03] <irakli> do i need always do repostitories when i have to install program
[12:03] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: clay pots?
[12:03] <IceDC571> no.. the stuff you smoke
[12:03] <marc> irakli, what do you mean?
[12:03] <ColonelKernel> IceDC571, are you using asterisk?
[12:04] <Fikrann> marc, gdesklets are much better than [super] karamba anyway.
[12:04] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: I didn't know that could be plural
[12:04] <IceDC571> ColonelKernel: asterisk?
[12:04] <marc> Fikrann, I know :P
[12:04] <ColonelKernel> its a voip server
[12:04] <irakli> I am noob
[12:04] <ColonelKernel> its for using your pc as a pbx
[12:04] <marc> irakli, But what do you mean?
[12:04] <IceDC571> pbx?
[12:05] <beowu1f> marc, thanks man will have a look
[12:05] <marc> Telephone xchange :P
[12:05] <cyphase> Private Branch Exchange
[12:05] <cyphase> eXchange*
[12:05] <cyphase> :)
[12:05] <IceDC571> oh i thought it was Pot Booze and Ecstacy
[12:05] <ColonelKernel> its something you use for your own phone service or to provide phone service to a building
[12:06] <IceDC571> omg that doesnt even match pbx
[12:06] <albacker> Fikrann: http://rafb.net/paste/results/MrsuD337.html << here it is
[12:06] <IceDC571> i want a kitty cat
[12:06] <marc> You can use it to set up an adult chat line
[12:07] <irakli> 1. when I am intalling for exaple  MOdem driver, in Linuxguide is written 1. add repostitories and than 2. other orrders
[12:07] <Fikrann> albacker, you DO NOT WANT to have Breezy in your repository list.
[12:07] <irakli> ...
[12:08] <IceDC571> ColonelKernel: you're going to try to record in linux?
[12:08] <ColonelKernel> IceDC571, nah
[12:08] <marc> irakli, Does it ask you to add repo's into your source.list file?
[12:08] <ColonelKernel> I wouldnt mind it but it looks like a rather troublesome process
[12:08] <albacker> Fikrann: ok, thanks
[12:09] <irakli> no, without repo's it can be intalled also
[12:09] <irakli> programs
[12:09] <marc> irakli what does it ask you to do about repos?
[12:09] <IceDC571> i wonder if anyone uses kino
[12:09] <irakli> xpdf for example
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> !apt
[12:09] <ubotu> I guess apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> !synaptic
[12:09] <ubotu> rumour has it, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[12:09] <ubotu> repositories is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> !sources
[12:09] <ubotu> [sources]  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[12:09] <marc> ty lol :P
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> that is all the info you should need
[12:09] <IceDC571> viewing movies is hard enough
[12:09] <marc> !chicken
[12:09] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, marc
[12:10] <IceDC571> seriously can someone really edit movies successfully with kino?
[12:10] <tiglionabbit> ubotu chicken is what people think it tastes like
[12:10] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: okay
[12:10] <irakli> I have xine, but It cannot play mp3 files
[12:10] <irakli> ?
[12:10] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[12:10] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:10] <IceDC571> xine isnt supposed to play mp3 files
[12:10] <marc> !chicken
[12:10] <Fikrann> albacker, anyway.. shouldn't you be bugging beatrix developers about it?
[12:10] <tiglionabbit> marc: gotta wait a bit
[12:10] <albacker> irakli: well you probablly need xmms or beep-media-player
[12:10] <tiglionabbit> beep-media-player looks better, so get it instead
[12:11] <marc> irakli, Ubuntu doesnt ship with the mp3 codecs
[12:11] <albacker> Fikrann: oh i did, but i thought id get faster help here.
[12:11] <albacker> you probably should replace xine with mplayer
[12:11] <IceDC571> cyphase: where did you go?
[12:11] <marc> Whats the name of the package manager, similar to synpatic that remembers dependencies?
[12:11] <irakli> I dont know how to install mplayer
[12:11] <Fikrann> albacker, xine is nicer for everyone elso than hardcore console users.
[12:12] <albacker> Fikrann: mplayer has its graphical user interface called gmplayer :)
[12:12] <tiglionabbit> marc: all apt remember dependencies
[12:13] <irakli> what about realplayer?
[12:13] <zaki_> hi everyone
[12:13] <sunrex> whats the code for installing A.realplayer  B.newer version of firefox
[12:13] <marc> tiglionabbit, I mean, when you unsintall something using this, as long as all the dependencies arent being used it will uninstall those too
[12:13] <tiglionabbit> irakli: get totem-xine, and perhaps w32codecs
[12:13] <albacker> irakli: you probably wont find it it the ubuntu repos, but there are some other repos marillot etc...
[12:13] <zaki_> can any one teach me about repositories plese
[12:13] <marc> !repositories
[12:13] <albacker> irakli: taking about mplayer ^^
[12:13] <ubotu> I heard repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:13] <tiglionabbit> marc: synaptic has a filter for things that are depended on by a package.  and there's deborphan
[12:13] <marc> !chicken
[12:13] <ubotu> chicken is probably what people think it tastes like
[12:14] <Fikrann> albacker, you should not advertise marillat for ubuntu users.
[12:14] <tiglionabbit> !backports
[12:14] <ubotu> rumour has it, backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[12:14] <zaki_> can any one teach me about repositories plese
[12:14] <albacker> Fikrann: i told him to use it only for mplayer, than he can delete them.
[12:14] <tiglionabbit> find w32codecs, libdvdcss2, and gstreamer0.8-lame in backports
[12:14] <buzbe> anyone know how to tell what switches where used (ie nolapic noapic etc) when ubuntu was installed?
[12:15] <ColonelKernel> alrighty
[12:15] <albacker> if you get mplayer from there, its not a problem.
[12:15] <sunrex> how do i get a new version of firefox?
[12:15] <ColonelKernel> that nerw kernel works well so far
[12:15] <albacker> sunrex: apt-get install firefox
[12:15] <Fikrann> albacker, he won't be able to, mplayer in marillat is linked against new Debian glibc.
[12:15] <tiglionabbit> sunrex: you have a new version
[12:15] <thegrok> anyone here uses firestarter to act as a home LAN router?
[12:15] <albacker> or mozilla-firefox
[12:15] <tiglionabbit> !firefox
[12:15] <ubotu> firefox is probably version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[12:15] <ColonelKernel> some error msg about devfs but so far everythings working
[12:15] <buzbe> anyone know how to tell what switches where used (ie nolapic noapic etc) when ubuntu was installed?
[12:16] <ColonelKernel> Linux version 2.6.13-rc2 (root@p4ht) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)) #1 SMP Sat Jul 9 02:21:36 PDT 2005
[12:16] <egi> !info gmplayer
[12:16] <tiglionabbit> !info mplayer-586
[12:16] <ColonelKernel> :D stoked
[12:16] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3486 kB, Installed size: 7508 kB
[12:16] <IceDC571> The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux... yeah, right
[12:17] <IceDC571> more like a Qt disaster
[12:17] <egi> i thought someone mention a gnome version of mplayer
[12:17] <IceDC571> wait, what is mplayer based on?
[12:17] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: well it handles the moste formats, even though its interface sucks
[12:17] <ColonelKernel> is the ubuntu update tool only supposed to pop up when you have updates available?
[12:17] <tiglionabbit> egi: the mplayer package installs gmplayer too
[12:17] <albacker> egi : gmplayer is the gui version of mplayer, install mplayer and than gmplayer. its just the user interface
[12:17] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: yes
[12:17] <deFrysk> ColonelKernel, yes it set to check once a day
[12:17] <irakli> tell me orders to instal fonts howto 1. ... 2 ... 3. ..... please
[12:17] <marc> any european backports mirrors?
[12:18] <irakli> I need Georgian
[12:18] <ColonelKernel> NICE
[12:18] <ColonelKernel> thats a very good tool - thanks!
[12:18] <jcoxon> any fluxbox users here?
[12:19] <albacker> jcoxon: i used to be. :) but in #fluxbox youll certenly find some other fb users :)
[12:19] <jcoxon> albacker, its just a fluxbox/ubuntu related question
[12:20] <jcoxon> i'll have a look
[12:20] <albacker> ohh. . ok.
[12:20] <x-unix> can someone help?
[12:20] <x-unix> please
[12:20] <jcoxon> just wondering how to make applications exec on startup of fluxbox
[12:20] <Fikrann> x-unix, No.
[12:20] <albacker> jcoxon: i think you can make this in the theme config file !
[12:20] <tiglionabbit> jcoxon: tried the #fluxbox channel?
[12:21] <jtgameover> jcoxon, you need to put it in your ~/.fluxbox/startfluxbox file
[12:21] <albacker> ohh
[12:21] <albacker>  ok
[12:21] <albacker> i used to change my background from the theme file !
[12:21] <jcoxon> tiglionabbit, on my way :)
[12:21] <x-unix> when i'm trying to run update manager, the password doesn't work, su password or user pasword...
[12:21] <albacker> x-unix: sudo su and than passwd
[12:21] <jtgameover> and make sure your Xsession file for fluxbox in /usr/share/xsessions uses "startfluxbox" and not "fluxbox"
[12:21] <egi> gmplayer ask for font files... anybody knows where could i find one?
[12:21] <Fikrann> x-unix, try sudo bash and supply it your own password.
[12:22] <tiglionabbit> x-unix: it should be your user password
[12:22] <albacker> egi, theres a package callet mplayer-font or something like that.
[12:22] <HappyFool> your user password should work
[12:22] <tiglionabbit> !sudo
[12:22] <ubotu> I heard sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:22] <jtgameover> jcoxon, CORRECTION: it is your ~/.fluxbox/startup file
[12:22] <jcoxon> jtgameover, i just worked that out :)
[12:22] <x-unix> thanks
[12:22] <egi> albacker, thx
[12:22] <jcoxon> jtgameover, the power of google :)
[12:22] <marc> tiglionabbit, what repo is mplayer on?
[12:22] <jtgameover> jcoxon, fluxbox is awesome
[12:23] <jtgameover> www.cs.washington.edu/homes/jtan325/jtan325_desktop_7-06-05.png
[12:23] <tiglionabbit> !info mplayer-586
[12:23] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3486 kB, Installed size: 7508 kB
[12:23] <jtgameover> that is my pimpin' desktop
[12:23] <tiglionabbit> it's on multiverse
[12:23] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[12:23] <ubotu> I guess repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:23] <jcoxon> jtgameover, i'm combining it with pogo, even cooler
[12:23] <jtgameover> jcoxon, what's pogo
[12:24] <IceDC571> wonderful.. my microsoft mouse just died on me.. again.. i hate M$ mice
[12:24] <jtgameover> ohhh found it
[12:24] <jtgameover> needs to have higher page rank!
[12:24] <zaki_> hello everyone
[12:24] <x-unix> Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager: bla bla bla status 1, for both passwords, i even changed them both...
[12:24] <Tsar_vonHumbug> Logitech MX510 :D
[12:24] <jtgameover> that looks pretty cool, jcoxon
[12:24] <zaki_> can any one tech me about ubuntu repositories
[12:25] <jtgameover> but with fluxbox, you shouldn't ever need icons
[12:25] <HappyFool> x-unix: what does 'sudo ls' do ?
[12:25] <jcoxon> jtgameover, just trying to find a screenshot
[12:25] <jtgameover> icons take up precious desktop space
[12:25] <tiglionabbit> x-unix: open a terminal.  Say sudo -s.  Now run it
[12:25] <jcoxon> jtgameover, guess you found one
[12:25] <HappyFool> x-unix: are you maybe running synaptic at the same time ?
[12:25] <jtgameover> www.cs.washington.edu/homes/jtan325/jtan325_desktop_7-06-05.png is the only screenshot you'll ever need :-)
[12:25] <jtgameover> haha jk jk
[12:25] <jcoxon> jtgameover, fluxbox provides the perfect manager for it
[12:25] <jcoxon> jtgameover, all the others are to crowded
[12:26] <jtgameover> what i'm really looking for is something like mac's Expose'
[12:26] <jtgameover> expocity and skippy
[12:26] <jtgameover> seem to be the linux versions
[12:26] <jtgameover> but apparently they're too slow right now
[12:27] <MsK`> hi
[12:27] <MsK`> is there a way to underclock the video card ?
[12:27] <vladuz976> hi i removed python with apt-get to get another version of it. unfortunately apt-get remove also removed a whole bunch of other stuff. now i reinstalled python but it didn't install all the other stuff. what can i do to undo my mistake?
[12:27] <tiglionabbit> jtgameover: yeah, those are a couple of the "bugs" listed on ubuntu's bugzilla.  "Microsoft has the greater market share", and "What to do when mac users start showing off genie effects"
[12:28] <mbirkis> how can i get ogg support in beep media player?
[12:28] <jtgameover> lol
[12:28] <tiglionabbit> mbirkis: you serious?
[12:28] <jcoxon> jtgameover, brb gonna test it
[12:28] <flexs> hello, i installed ubuntu linu, what is my root password, help ?
[12:28] <mbirkis> tiglionabbit: yes, how so?
[12:28] <tiglionabbit> mbirkis: it should support it already
[12:28] <jtgameover> tiglionabbit, you show them the genie effects of fluxbox and openbox and whatnot
[12:28] <jtgameover> it would be a battle of genies
[12:28] <HappyFool> flexs: logging in as root is disabled by default
[12:28] <jtgameover> and a penguin sure beats an apple
[12:28] <HappyFool> flexs: use 'sudo'
[12:29] <HappyFool> !sudo
[12:29] <ubotu> sudo is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:29] <HappyFool> flexs: read the url for more
[12:29] <jtgameover> in fact
[12:29] <mbirkis> tiglionabbit: hmm... what is wrong with my ogg files then?
[12:29] <flexs> ok i try....
[12:29] <flexs> thanx
[12:29] <jtgameover> there should be a wallpaper or something that shows the linux penguin beating up the msn butterfly, while eating the MAC apple
[12:29] <tiglionabbit> hahah, Penguins EAT Apples, and then they fling themselves through Windows.  Thus they are the champions
[12:30] <tiglionabbit> mbirkis: dunno.  Go download "Burning Heat 3rd Option Mix.ogg"
[12:30] <marc> OSX > any linux desktop :P
[12:30] <mbirkis> tiglionabbit: ok, thnx for the help
[12:30] <tiglionabbit> that's the file I played =P
[12:31] <marc> Simply because gnome's devs decided that OS X like menu behaviour breaks their HCI rules :(
[12:31] <tiglionabbit> http://fallenearth.org/blogs/caiuschen/archives/2003/11/02/all_hallows_eve/3%20Option%20Mix%20-%20Burning%20Heat.ogg
[12:31] <tiglionabbit> whats the rules for?
[12:31] <Markrian> HCI? You mean HIG?
[12:31] <parabolize> I am haveing trouble downloading the ums firmware for my ifp-890. its a zip file but firefox trys to open it. korean text pops up. wget crashes. here is the url: http://www.iriver.com/html/admin/etc/adet_download_process.asp?fileName=ifp890us-ums128.zip&pathFlag=EG_DOWNLOAD_UP_PATH
[12:31] <Markrian> Human Interface Guidelines
[12:31] <marc> human computer interface
[12:32] <marc> yah
[12:32] <marc> that
[12:32] <marc> :P
[12:32] <tiglionabbit> parabolize: I get a korean 404 page
[12:32] <MsK`> no idea ?
[12:32] <Hieronymus> !hig
[12:32] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:32] <Hieronymus> ubotu hig is Human Interface Guidelines
[12:33] <ubotu> Hieronymus: okay
[12:33] <Hieronymus> !HIG
[12:33] <ubotu> I guess hig is Human Interface Guidelines
[12:33] <ColonelKernel> how can I get firefox to upgrade - its being held back - I tried dist-upgrade but ti still didnt upgrade
[12:33] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: you don't need to upgrade firefox
[12:33] <tiglionabbit> !firefox
[12:33] <ubotu> firefox is probably version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[12:33] <jcoxon> did it :p
[12:33] <tiglionabbit> I wish ubotu wouldn't say "probably"
[12:33] <jtgameover> how is it?
[12:34] <jcoxon> jtgameover, very cool, though it wasn't startup i had to edit, i had to make a new file called apps
[12:34] <jtgameover> ....
[12:34] <ColonelKernel> address bar?
[12:34] <P3L|C4N0> !ethstatus
[12:34] <ubotu> P3L|C4N0: I give up, what is it?
[12:34] <jtgameover> hmm
[12:34] <MsK`> a way to underclock my ati card ? no idea ?
[12:34] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: yes, where you type in urls
[12:34] <ColonelKernel> wow
[12:35] <ColonelKernel> thats neato torpedo
[12:35] <jcoxon> jtgameover, in .fluxbox/apps you put [startup]  {program}
[12:35] <tiglionabbit> it sure is
[12:35] <P3L|C4N0> ubotu ethstatus is Console-based ethernet statistics monitor
[12:35] <ubotu> P3L|C4N0: okay
[12:35] <P3L|C4N0> !ethstatus
[12:35] <ubotu> I heard ethstatus is Console-based ethernet statistics monitor
[12:35] <flexs> ok i write command -- sudp passwd root -- then i write the password, but if i want login, ubuntu says, not allowed to login like root.... what the problem.... i want root panel...
[12:36] <ColonelKernel> it was 1.0
[12:36] <flexs> tb sudo
[12:36] <jtgameover> jcoxon, i use startup
[12:36] <tiglionabbit> !sudo
[12:36] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:36] <jtgameover> two solutions to the same problem
[12:36] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, what do I do after that?
[12:36] <jcoxon> jtgameover, oh well, i'm happy
[12:36] <tiglionabbit> flexs: if you REALLY must enable root, go to system -> admin -> login screen setup and uncheck the box that says you can't login as root.  But, it is not recommended on ANY linux distro tu run Xserver as root
[12:37] <tiglionabbit> s/tu/to
[12:37] <umar> y its not recommended to run xserver
[12:37] <umar> as root
[12:37] <umar> reason?
[12:37] <tiglionabbit> umar: cuz you can get teh haxed
[12:37] <tiglionabbit> and spyware'd
[12:38] <umar> sorry cant understand
[12:38] <tiglionabbit> ask some security guy, I don't really know.  But I do know that it's not that hard to run it as a normal user and just use sudo or gksudo on things
[12:38] <umar> ok
[12:39] <marc> Argh
[12:39] <Redo> anyone dual boot with WinXP on an UATA drive and Ubuntu on a SATA drive?
[12:39] <marc> Mozilla wont remember my file associations
[12:39] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, ahould I change the appversion too - or is there a way to actuallyupgrade the package
[12:39] <flexs> nothing works...
[12:39] <marc> It still wishes to open movie files in totem instead of Mplayer
[12:39] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: no way to upgrade.  All security fixes have been backported though.  Only the vendorsub matters to addons.mozilla.org
[12:40] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: well, I suppose you could get one of the daily builds of firefox, if you want =P
[12:40] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, how about --ignore-holds?
[12:40] <umar> i want to play online songs in firefox browser
[12:40] <tiglionabbit> umar: then get a plugin
[12:40] <tiglionabbit> there's plugins for mplayer, vlc, and xine
[12:40] <umar> i even installed real plugin
[12:40] <tiglionabbit> umar: NOT thAT ONE
[12:40] <tiglionabbit> =P
[12:41] <umar> then?
[12:41] <tiglionabbit> use mplayer or xine instead, for realplayer stuff
[12:41] <ColonelKernel> ill do a daily build if it will get rid of that package held back message
[12:41] <umar> wat if they playing media is rm
[12:41] <umar> real media
[12:41] <umar> then?
[12:41] <tiglionabbit> the forums have a thread on using xine with firefox.
[12:41] <tiglionabbit> umar: mplayer can do that.  And so can xine
[12:42] <tiglionabbit> I have yet to see vlc do realmedia, but people tell me it can too
[12:42] <umar> u mean first i have to download a plugin for xine to play real media
[12:42] <ru63> hiya, how can i check to see if powernowd is running?  I have typed 'grep powernowd' and it is hanging with the curser blinking
[12:42] <tiglionabbit> umar: you might need to get w32codecs from a backports mirror
[12:42] <umar> then i need to to have a plugin for firefox
[12:42] <tiglionabbit> !backports
[12:42] <ubotu> I guess backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[12:43] <tiglionabbit> comment out that mirror once you get it though
[12:44] <Fikrann> ru63, it's expecting you to type some text you want to search for 'powernowd' string.
[12:44] <Fikrann> ru63, press ctrl+D
[12:45] <ru63> Fikrann, thanks for the ctrl-d tip.. but i don't understand the string thing
[12:45] <Fikrann> ru63, read grep man page one day.
[12:45] <mik__> hello... I'm about installing mplayer-686 by synaptic. Why it need to install mplayer-586 too ?
[12:45] <umar> my sound card chip is not detected by ubuntu
[12:45] <ru63> Fkrann, ahh didn;t think of that... i will now.. thx
[12:45] <mik__> I can't understand thad
[12:45] <umar> wat i need to do to make work my sound car
[12:45] <umar> card
[12:46] <mik__> why mplayer-686 need mplayer-586 ??
[12:46] <tiglionabbit> mik__: mplayer-686 is a dummy package.  The build doesn't exist, so it grabs 586 instead
[12:46] <Fikrann> ru63, and the command you were looking for is ps ax | grep powernowd
[12:46] <marc> I dont think mplayer-686 exists, its just a dummy package
[12:46] <mik__> tiglionabbit, ooo thanks
[12:47] <znh> then why do they add -686 ..
[12:47] <ru63> Fikrann, thanks!
[12:47] <Redo> does anyone know any good documents about how to dual boot WinXP and Ubuntu?
[12:48] <mik__> well.. i had compiling by my self mplayer1.0pre7 - with gui.. by it doesn't work
[12:48] <tiglionabbit> Redo: it's not hard, I'm doing it right now
[12:48] <Redo> last time I did it with SuSE, I couldn't boot into WinXP
[12:48] <tiglionabbit> Redo: unless your bios is really old, grub sets everything up for you
[12:48] <Redo> never used Grub, only LiLO
[12:48] <tiglionabbit> Redo: how did you partition it?
[12:48] <mik__> in gui there is no all text
[12:48] <Redo> I don't remember, it was a long time ago
[12:48] <Redo> tiglionabbit: I have 3 NTFS patitions now
[12:48] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, ok I installed a nightly build
[12:48] <Redo> tiglionabbit: I can sacrifice one for Linux
[12:48] <ColonelKernel> says its deer park alpha
[12:49] <ColonelKernel> yippee
[12:49] <tiglionabbit> Redo: you know that you can't write to ntfs in linux, right?  fat32 can be used by both
[12:49] <Redo> tiglionabbit: should I take one of my NTFS partitions and pratition it into FAT32 and the rest into the linux install?
[12:49] <Fikrann> tiglionabbit, that's not entirely true. You can use Captive ntfs driver; it's glacially slow, though.
[12:49] <mik__> ColonelKernel, deer park 2 is fast
[12:50] <mik__> ColonelKernel, faster than firefox from ubuntu package
[12:50] <x-unix> does anyone know how to create an admin group
[12:50] <Redo> I don't need to use NTFS if it will cause stability issues
[12:50] <tiglionabbit> Redo: I suppose you could make a root partition that's ext3, and then a home partition that's fat32 so you can share it with windows
[12:50] <ColonelKernel> mik__, im noticing that
[12:50] <ColonelKernel> wow
[12:50] <tiglionabbit> Redo: wont cause instability issues.  It's perfectly stable to Read from.  You just can't write to it too well
[12:50] <Redo> tiglionabbit: writing is half the fun ;)
[12:50] <moire> hi
[12:51] <tiglionabbit> and knowing is half the battle
[12:51] <tiglionabbit> GEE III JOOE
[12:51] <natu> how do i set path for root???
[12:51] <moire> how do i detect which printer port has my usb printer?
[12:51] <ColonelKernel> my ut2004 install stayed too
[12:51] <tiglionabbit> natu: what do you mean?
[12:51] <Fikrann> Redo, putting your /home on fat32 might break some stuff.
[12:51] <natu> i want to set ant home...to root path...
[12:51] <ColonelKernel> I didnt have to reinstall it
[12:51] <tiglionabbit> moire: lsusb
[12:51] <Fikrann> Mmmm... UT2k4
[12:51] <Redo> Fikrann: I was thinking of breaking a NTFS partition into a fat32 and the rest into exp3
[12:52] <tiglionabbit> wait, printer port?  uh
[12:52] <ColonelKernel> runs nice on linux even w/o shadows
[12:52] <natu> .....can..anyone...help...me
[12:52] <ColonelKernel> seems worth it not to deal with windows bugs
[12:52] <Redo> how does UT2004 run on linux?
[12:52] <lifeless> ~.
[12:52] <natu> i want to set a directory in the root path...
[12:52] <ColonelKernel> Redo, very nicely
[12:52] <action09> natu  don't ask to ask just ask
[12:52] <Redo> I can't wait until I get it going
[12:53] <x-unix> user@HOST:~$ grep admin /etc/group
[12:53] <x-unix> lpadmin:x:107:user
[12:53] <x-unix> i can't sudo, passwords dont work, and i never created one for sudo, just su and a user
[12:53] <tiglionabbit> natu: you mean /?  cd /
[12:53] <moire> tiglionabbit: Bus 003 Device 005: ID 04e8:3252 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd
[12:53] <ColonelKernel> Redo, you can even play it on a gf4mx440 and itll look pretty good
[12:53] <moire> what does it mean?
[12:53] <Redo> ColonelKernel, I have a 6600gt
[12:53] <ColonelKernel> Redo, I have a 6600 non gt and it runs like a champ
[12:53] <Fikrann> Redo, yes, if you need direct interoperability with windows, then you need fat32 partition. For linux, I'd suggest reiserfs or xfs, both are much more reliable than ext3
[12:53] <Redo> Fikrann, would you suggest reiserfs over xfs?
[12:54] <tiglionabbit> x-unix: that doesn't sound good.  You may need to trick grub into booting you as root, and then add yourself to the admin group
[12:54] <tiglionabbit> what's good about reiserfs and xfs?
[12:54] <Redo> ColonelKernel, It runs great on my end too, but I'm sick of Windows
[12:54] <Fikrann> I would suggest xfs over reiser, unless you're running on laptop
[12:54] <Redo> ColonelKernel, Ubuntu runs 100x smoother on a LiveDVD then WinXP does on my hard drive
[12:54] <schasi> why reiser for the laptop?
[12:54] <ColonelKernel> Redo, lol
[12:55] <Redo> Fikrann, I'll use xfs then ;)
[12:55] <Fikrann> tiglionabbit, xfs is faster and very reliable. reiserfs is almost as fast as xfs and only a bit less reliable.
[12:55] <moire> tiglionabbit: it does not work :(
[12:55] <ColonelKernel> Redo, you might want to just clean up your xp system, turn off unnneccesary services, use a low cpu resource virus scan tool, and defrag your drive with diskeeper pro
[12:55] <Fikrann> schasi, reiser works better with laptop-mode
[12:55] <mindspin> I would recommend ext2 for your home directory, cause if reiser is damaged you risk the lost of your data
[12:55] <ThreeDayMonk> since rebooting, my apache virtual hosts are broken :-(  I get pcfg_openfile errors on .htaccess files that are outside the DocumentRoot.  Any ideas?
[12:55] <mindspin> loss
[12:55] <Redo> ColonelKernel, I do all that stuff, but Ubuntu still runs smoother
[12:55] <ColonelKernel> that usually takes care of windows problems
[12:56] <ColonelKernel> yeah , im pretty impressed
[12:56] <flexs> how can i chage screen resolution, in resolution panel i have only 640x480 supported, but i want 1024x768, help ?
[12:56] <gore> hey all
[12:56] <Redo> I'm very impressed, especailly coming from SuSE, Fedora, and Mandrake
[12:56] <Redo> And naturally Windows :/
[12:57] <Fikrann> Redo, I have once overwritten first 100MB of my xfs partition .. and all I lost was 12MB of small files that were in /tmp.
[12:57] <tiglionabbit> flexs: you may need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:57] <tiglionabbit> !resolution
[12:57] <gore> flexs get newdrivers
[12:57] <ubotu> I heard resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:58] <Redo> Fikrann, !!, does that mean you were lucky that nothing important was written in the first 100mb?
[12:58] <Fikrann> Redo, yes .. but the catch is, most file systems would be completely destroyed after such operation.
[12:58] <taomaster> is it safe to install the kde desktop in ubuntu thur the synaptic?
[12:58] <Fikrann> taomaster, yes.
[12:59] <tiglionabbit> taomaster: no no, get kubuntu-desktop
[12:59] <tiglionabbit> !info kubuntu-desktop
[12:59] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.40 (hoary), Packaged size: 3 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[12:59] <Redo> Fikrann, I will definatly use xfs. Even though I'm not running any critical apps, I still love stability
[12:59] <CarinArr> hey, i have a bit of a problem. I've just installed ubuntu on my machine, and it seems to work fine, just i have a wireless belkin f5d7050 adapter, and no other network card available. i downloaded the ndiswrapper source and compiled it, and it seems to work okay, it accepts the drivers for the adapter, but when i do dmesg i get themessage that loadndiswrapper failed.. does anyone know where i can go from there
[12:59] <Fikrann> }:>
[12:59] <Redo> ;D
[12:59] <ColonelKernel> hmph - daily build doesnt work :P
[12:59] <ColonelKernel> you type in a url and you cant go to it lol
[01:00] <taomaster> fikrann  - thanx
[01:00] <taomaster> i'll give it a try
[01:00] <CarinArr> it makes it a bit annoying that i have to download everything using windows, then boot into linux to install things as i don't have network access from linux;)
[01:00] <mindspin> CariArr why that?
[01:01] <mindspin> ok got it
[01:01] <CarinArr> why what?
[01:01] <mindspin> no network access , but you explained it above...
[01:01] <Fikrann> CarinArr, you need to give some more details for anyone to be able to suggest any solution.
[01:01] <Fey> can anyone here help me with perl testing?
[01:02] <mindspin> i overread it
[01:02] <Redo> Fikrann, thanks for your help. I'm off to start backing up my data before I split this partition to Fat32 and xfs ;)
[01:02] <Fikrann> Redo, good luck }:
[01:02] <Fikrann> }:>
[01:02] <Redo> :D
[01:02] <CarinArr> fikrann, what sort of details are needed?
[01:03] <CarinArr> it says to check system logs for what goes wrong, but i don't know where to find em;)
[01:03] <tiglionabbit> well, I'm going to bed.  Wish you all luck with your linuxy thingamabob times
[01:03] <Fey> anyone here do perl?
[01:03] <flexs> how can i set /etc/X11/xorg.conf the default screen resolution....
[01:04] <mindspin> look in /var/log/syslog
[01:04] <tiglionabbit> Fey: A little
[01:04] <Fikrann> CarinArr, try dmesg
[01:04] <no0tic> hi
[01:04] <mindspin> Fey whats your problem?
[01:04] <tiglionabbit> Fey: what's da question?
[01:04] <no0tic> I'm looking for gdkmm dev libs, where can I find them?
[01:04] <tiglionabbit> mindspin: it's rude to ask people "what their problem" is
[01:04] <action09> flexs i'm not sure but i think it's the first resolution..   Modes           "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1280x854" "1280x800"  ....
[01:05] <mindspin> why that? I#m not a native english speaker?
[01:05] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, you mean theres actually a channel on this network that CARES about rudeness?
[01:05] <Fey> I want the testsuite to report that a sub dies
[01:05] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: this is ubuntu.  We're about humanity to others, dude
[01:05] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, right on. I just found me a new distro
[01:05] <tiglionabbit> ?
[01:06] <Hieronymus> mindspin: 'what's your problem' is like 'hey, what do you want? fuck off!'
[01:06] <thegrok> tiglionabbit: you are one of the developers?
[01:06] <mindspin> ok,
[01:06] <Fey> I'm currently trying TDO: { ok(@list = &read_file("/whatever that doesn't exist"), 'succesfully crsahed"); }
[01:06] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, perhaps you are unaware of what a nightmare some of the other channels are.
[01:06] <tiglionabbit> thegrok: nope, I'm just a guy with too much time on his hands
[01:06] <CarinArr> fikrann, i did, that's when i was told that loadndiswrapper fails
[01:06] <Hieronymus> !conduct
[01:06] <ubotu> [conduct]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view
[01:06] <mindspin> that's different in german ;-)
[01:06] <Adross> after install, how do i change the resolutions enabled by x?
[01:06] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: it's alright if you know a little bit
[01:06] <Hieronymus> mindspin: It also is in Dutch ;-) I can understand
[01:06] <admin0> heh ?
[01:06] <thegrok> tiglionabbit: what makes ubuntu better than debian?
[01:06] <tiglionabbit> ColonelKernel: many people on freenode don't have patience for inexperienced linuxers
[01:07] <Hieronymus> mindspin: maybe something like 'what seems to be the problem'?
[01:07] <Fey> what I want is for the TODO part to say success and then continue
[01:07] <admin0> thegrok, just try it once.. you will notice the difference
[01:07] <ColonelKernel> tiglionabbit, yeah and some of them are just kinda disturbed.
[01:07] <tiglionabbit> thegrok: newer packages, simpler interfaces, guis, it's made for the casual desktop user, and uh, nice people!
[01:07] <Adross> anyone, x resolutions?
[01:07] <thegrok> admin0: actually debian gave me a better experince when i tried to install on a dell server
[01:07] <mindspin> sounds more ploite but I never thought about 'what's your problem?' is rude
[01:07] <mindspin> polite
[01:07] <tiglionabbit> mindspin: say "what's your question" instead then
[01:08] <bigfoot1> hello, i'm trying out Galeon since today. I would like to make it more life firefox. What's galeon's equivalent to Fx's extensions?
[01:08] <Fey> tiglionabbit : I'm currently trying TDO: { ok(@list = &read_file("/whatever that doesn't exist"), 'succesfully crsahed"); }
[01:08] <mindspin> what about where is the problem?
[01:08] <thegrok> tiglionabbit: i'm currently "coming" to you via my ubuntu gateway on my home LAN, every few days my connection slows....and i need to reboot
[01:08] <Adross> anyone, please?
[01:08] <mindspin> but this is rude if translated in german
[01:08] <thegrok> tiglionabbit: can't tell if it's gnome or firestarter or the kernel
[01:09] <Fikrann> brb
[01:09] <thegrok> hence i'm wondering if i should use debian instead =P
[01:09] <tiglionabbit> thegrok: hmm.  I don't know what the problem is, but it could be with your router or ISP too.  Have you tried resetting your router and modem recently?
[01:10] <thegrok> nope, cause the problem went away after a reboot
[01:10] <bigfoot1> in Galeon, how can we make the "throbber" foot on the upper right corner point to our desired URL, rather than the galeon website?
[01:10] <thegrok> it could also be bt-gnome or amule since i did run those on and off
[01:10] <tiglionabbit> thegrok: that doesn't necessarily mean it's not the modem's fault.  Breaking a connection can have that effect
[01:10] <mindspin> If a program is mot in the repositories, what would you recommend, compiling it from source or trying to get/build deb files?
[01:11] <tiglionabbit> thegrok: I would suggest that you look at your ports, and run 'top' to see what processes are running too
[01:11] <neural_> what about backports for amd64? where can i find them?
[01:11] <admin0> Adross, you are not getting your x to work ?
[01:11] <mindspin> thegrok desktop or laptop?
[01:11] <bigfoot1> no galeon users here?
[01:11] <thegrok> tiglionabbit: will do, takes a few days to replicate...
[01:11] <thegrok> mindspin: come again?
[01:11] <admin0> system > preferences > screen resolution
[01:11] <mindspin> thegrok desktop or laptop?
[01:11] <tiglionabbit> thegrok: oh, a few days...  I thought this was more of an immediate problem than that =P
[01:12] <thegrok> tiglionabbit: nope few days...hence i suspect something's leaking memory
[01:12] <mindspin> I had some networking issues while enabling acpi on my thinkpad
[01:12] <thegrok> mindspin: oh it's a desktop
[01:12] <thegrok> bbiab
[01:12] <tiglionabbit> thegrok: well, if you suspect that, be sure to run system monitoring programs and look at what eats things up
[01:13] <Darh> Hi! Please write link is Ubuntu cd covers(sorry bad english)
[01:13] <xunix> need help with 5.04!!
[01:13] <Fey> mindspin: also, would you know how to read a directory in binarymode? I'm trying to open it like a file (open instead of opendir) and then set the reader to binarymode. Do you have any ideas on how to make it work?
[01:13] <Ruslan> shipit.ubuntu.com
[01:14] <Ruslan> >Darh :)
[01:14] <mindspin> nope sorry
[01:14] <bojangles> man i heard people ordering and getting 30 CDs for ubuntu....where did they get all that stuff
[01:14] <tiglionabbit> xunix: what be the prob?
[01:14] <xunix> same problem
[01:14] <Darh> thx Ruslan
[01:14] <tiglionabbit> bojangles: doesn't ubuntu.com list places that sell the CDs?
[01:15] <tiglionabbit> xunix: have you made yourself an admin yet?
[01:15] <bojangles> tiglionabbit, i don't know...i only heard about the 30 CDs...i have no idea what is even on them
[01:15] <xunix> yes i did
[01:15] <xunix> i created a new user with admin privl
[01:15] <tiglionabbit> xunix: okay, can you sudo and such now?    My php4 module has disappeared since I deleted and reinstalled apache2 and libapache2-mod-php4.  The php files in mods-available are nowhere to be found.  How can I get them back?
[01:17] <tiglionabbit> xunix: that's weird.  Try and add yourself to the sudoers file.  man sudoers for more info
[01:17] <Ruslan> Sorry http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org/
[01:18] <tiglionabbit> xunix: I really don't know what could have caused it to mess up your default accounts like this though..
[01:18] <MsK`> bon app
[01:18] <mindspin> Fey I never used binmode cause its really tricky acording to programming perl
[01:18] <xunix> could it be the password strenght or additional language?
[01:18] <Darh> ruslan, im print covers searching...
[01:18] <xunix> i dunno
[01:19] <qt2> well wtf.
[01:19] <xunix> cause everything i did during install was standart
[01:20] <Fey> mindspin: oki. Thanks
[01:20] <qt2> is there something up with apt/synaptic...?
[01:20] <qt2> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libc/libcairo/libcairo1_0.3.0-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:20] <qt2> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[01:20] <qt2> been getting lots of those lately... <.<;
[01:20] <tiglionabbit> xunix: well after you add yourself to sudoers, everything you've mentioned should work properly.  Very sorry it took you this much trouble to set up.  Ubuntu should do these things properly, usually
[01:20] <tiglionabbit> qt2: remove the "us" from those urls
[01:20] <tiglionabbit> in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:20] <mindspin> qt yesterday some people mentioned that the us mirrors are not working properly
[01:21] <qt2> oki.
[01:21] <tiglionabbit> er, "us." to be more concise
[01:21] <Darh> ubuntu cd front image, who is?
[01:21] <xunix> tiglionabbit:what is the location of sudoers file?
[01:21] <xunix> can i g edit it?
[01:21] <bojangles> now i did see one ubuntu dvd....but i don't know where or what is on 30 CDs
[01:21] <tiglionabbit> I mean not concise, uh..
[01:22] <qt2> i wonder what's up with the us mirrors...
[01:22] <bojangles> man that is 15 gigs
[01:22] <tiglionabbit> xunix: no, you must use visudo.  It actually runs nano
[01:22] <bojangles> and 15 gigs of free software is quite a lot
[01:22] <xunix> visudo: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[01:22] <tiglionabbit> bojangles: do you really want all those CDs?  Don't you have an internet connection?
[01:23] <tiglionabbit> xunix: get in su first
[01:23] <bojangles> tiglionabbit, i don't need any of them...i have more basic issues than to worry about ubuntu
[01:23] <mindspin> xunix what do you get when you type whoami
[01:23] <bojangles> tiglionabbit, they can worry about themselves.
[01:23] <sunrex> how do you install sound....and by sound i mean sound period...even if its just a little beep
[01:24] <tiglionabbit> sunrex: sound, well, first right-click on your volume thingy
[01:24] <sunrex> ok
[01:24] <tiglionabbit> hit properties, and for all devices listed (switch between them and do this for each) turn up the volume for master, PCM, and PC Speaker, and anything else that seems obvious
[01:25] <Whistler> why cant i copy or paste in terminal with ctrl+c ?
[01:25] <mindspin> take the middle button of your mouse
[01:25] <albacker> Whistler: shift+ctrl+c
[01:25] <tiglionabbit> Whistler: because control-C is the command for close
[01:25] <albacker> try that.
[01:25] <aleksander> Hi, how to install apache1 ?
[01:26] <bojangles> Whistler, just use the X clipboard....highlight something and push both mouse buttons at same time....and then go to editor and push both again and all your terminal text will be in editor for printing
[01:26] <albacker> in gnome-terminal shift+ctrl+c works, in xterm, aterm, use the middle button
[01:26] <tiglionabbit> apache1?  Why not 2?
[01:26] <aleksander> because the script i have just work in 1
[01:26] <aleksander> ...
[01:26] <mindspin> maybe because of modperl?
[01:27] <aleksander> mindspin, talking to me?
[01:27] <tiglionabbit> =p guys, is there a backwardsports repository then?
[01:27] <mindspin> kinda, it was a guess why people like to install apache 1 instead of 2
[01:27] <mindspin> that was areason for me
[01:28] <bojangles> tiglionabbit, no...everyone is screwed because IBM is putting that DRM shit in kernel 2.6.12 and then they are already putting it in Breezy to screw everyone
[01:28] <hack_benjamin> anyone know what happened to transcode?
[01:28] <hack_benjamin> its not in the repositories any more
[01:28] <bojangles> tiglionabbit, and they have already subtley planted the TPM modules in many peoples computers today
[01:29] <aleksander> any one here who can hack msn adresses?
[01:29] <bojangles> tiglionabbit, especially laptops
[01:29] <aleksander> mindspin, is perlmod not installed at apache2?
[01:29] <tiglionabbit> bojangles: what are you talking about?
[01:29] <mindspin> modperl2 is not working properly for the applications i use
[01:30] <bojangles> tiglionabbit, that is why you can't trust the trusted computer group and free-hardware designs with free-hardware products as a result will  become ever important
[01:30] <hack_benjamin> anyone know where i can get transcode?
[01:30] <hack_benjamin> without tarballs
[01:30] <hack_benjamin> for amd64
[01:30] <aleksander> transcode?
[01:30] <aleksander> it is?
[01:30] <hack_benjamin> its not in the repositories any more..
[01:31] <neural_> yes is missing
[01:31] <aleksander> Where do I find Apache (1) ???
[01:31] <aleksander> brb
[01:32] <jtgameover> oh man this sucks, i can't install frozen bubble because some package can't be retrieved from the repository
[01:32] <tiglionabbit> jtgameover: really?  oh noes.  It installed for me though.  What's the exact error you get?
[01:32] <Fikrann> Ahhh.. joys of secure wireless connection.
[01:33] <jtgameover> "MD5Sum mismatch"
[01:33] <jtgameover> "failed to fetch archive.ubuntu.com/..../libsdl-consol_1.3-3_i386.deb"
[01:33] <tiglionabbit> jtgameover: are you using the us. repositories?  Edit your sources.list and delete the "us."    If you don't like drm, compile your own kernel without it. Or better, switch distro.
[01:40] <jtgameover> so what kind of cool packages do people have running?
[01:40] <jtgameover> besides xmms, xine, aterm...
[01:40] <Fikrann> gkrellm!
[01:40] <ColonelKernel> can anyone help me make the sun java environment my systems java enviornment? I cant seem to find the "alternatives" package
[01:40] <bojangles> Fikrann, that is exactly what i am doing now...i just finally got a compile on mig to get some glue
[01:41] <xunix> what is the url for additional software like codecs for ubuntu?
[01:43] <Fikrann> xunix, use hoary-extras repo
[01:43] <Fikrann> !backports
[01:43] <ubotu> backports is, like, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:43] <Whistler> !packages
[01:43] <ubotu> packages is probably http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[01:46] <GNULinuxer> !all_nude_installation_services
[01:46] <ubotu> GNULinuxer: No idea
[01:46] <GNULinuxer> lol
[01:47] <Heimdall_linux> hey
[01:47] <Fikrann> Hello
[01:47] <GNULinuxer> Heimdall_linux: hi
[01:48] <ColonelKernel> how do I make a symlink that acts as if it is in the dir it is symlinked from?
[01:49] <joe> hiya I installed kubuntu, and my mum wants to use XPDE, I donwloaded it and extracted to /usr/share/xpde, how do I go making it the default window manager for her account rather than KDE?
[01:50] <dackmilliken> hello, I need some help
[01:51] <dackmilliken> I keep getting MD5sum mismatch errors when trying to download stuff via apt-get from us.archive.ubuntu
[01:52] <schasi> google will kindly help you
[01:52] <schasi> If you throw the error messages at it
[01:52] <dackmilliken> I have searched google
[01:52] <schasi> I fixed the same Problem yesterday
[01:52] <dackmilliken> what other repositories do you use?
[01:52] <bigfoot1> galeon users: how can we open up Could not open the file "/usr/share/doc/galeon-common/README.ExtraPrefs.gz"?
[01:52] <schasi> i use the standard debian sid and ftp.nerim.net
[01:52] <dackmilliken> how did you fix the problem?
[01:52] <Fikrann> dackmilliken, don't use us archives. Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and remove 'us.' from your lines.
[01:53] <dackmilliken> I did that fikrann
[01:53] <dackmilliken> didn't work :(
[01:53] <schasi> i search google with the error message
[01:53] <joe> Any ideas on how to change the default window manager to XPDE on an account
[01:53] <bigfoot1> sorry, how can we open up the file "/usr/share/doc/galeon-common/README.ExtraPrefs.gz? I've tried both UTF and Western character encoding, but neither work.
[01:53] <Fikrann> dackmilliken, did you reload your package listings?
[01:53] <schasi> of course i excluded things that change like the url before searching
[01:53] <dackmilliken> how do you do that fikrann?
[01:53] <dackmilliken> sorry I am a n00b at linux :(
[01:54] <Fikrann> after you edit your sources.list you need to either click reload in synaptic or run apt-get update
[01:54] <dackmilliken> yes I did that
[01:54] <schasi> which doesnt fix the problem
[01:54] <schasi> gimme the error message
[01:54] <Ixion83> Hi :) The ubuntu foundation will be use by Kubuntu or not ?
[01:55] <admin0> btw, what do backports do ?
[01:55] <GNULinuxer> dackmilliken: i have the solution
[01:55] <admin0> i mean additional packages ?
[01:55] <dackmilliken> yes??
[01:55] <Hieronymus> !backports
[01:55] <ubotu> it has been said that backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:56] <GNULinuxer> dackmilliken: just change all us.archive.ubuntu.com to just arcchive.ubuntu.com
[01:56] <dackmilliken> I have tried that
[01:56] <dackmilliken> :'(
[01:56] <Ixion83> Hi :) The ubuntu foundation will be use by Kubuntu or not ?
[01:56] <GNULinuxer> dackmilliken: well, after that you need to apt-get update
[01:56] <dackmilliken> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/  MD5Sum mismatch  << error message with address removed
[01:56] <GNULinuxer> Ixion83: what do you mean?
[01:57] <dackmilliken> I will try again GNULinuxer
[01:57] <dackmilliken> brb
[01:57] <Ixion83> GNULinuxer : Kubuntu will use Ubuntu Foundation for develop ?
[01:57] <joe> Ixion83, kubuntu is ubuntu but with kde
[01:57] <GNULinuxer> Ixion83: Kubuntu is a *different* project
[01:57] <joe> you can always download ubuntu and install kde manually
[01:57] <GNULinuxer> Ixion83: it's as different as Ubuntu and Debian is
[01:57] <Ixion83> GNULinuxer different but it will use Ubuntu Foundation money or not ?
[01:58] <Shinaku> Hey
[01:58] <Hieronymus> Hey
[01:58] <GNULinuxer> Ixion83: it will not get any money ... using the money is a different issue
[01:58] <joe> or wait for the kubuntu to bring out the next release (im guessing that'll follow a few days after the official ubuntu release)
[01:58] <Shinaku> I am wanting to install some things from a Debian x86 repository onto an Ubuntu AMD64 machine
[01:58] <Ixion83> GNULinuxer ubuntu use money :)
[01:58] <Shinaku> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://soulmachine.net debian/unstable Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/soulmachine.net_dists_debian_unstable_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:59] <mjr> Shinaku, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[01:59] <Shinaku> That's the error I get, can I force it somehow to use the x86's source list?
[01:59] <bigfoot1> any galeon users here?
[02:00] <Hieronymus> !chroot
[02:00] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I give up, what is it?
[02:00] <Hieronymus> ubotu: chroot is at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:00] <ubotu> Hieronymus: okay
[02:00] <marc> Anyone know where I can get good deals on Laptops in the UK?  Or even futher suggest the best laptop i can get for around the 700 mark?
[02:00] <Hieronymus> !chroot
[02:00] <dackmilliken> hey thanks guys, that fixed my problem..sorry for being a n00b
[02:00] <Hieronymus> ubotu: good bot!
[02:00] <ubotu> thanks hieronymus :)
[02:00] <Nefarous> Trying to speed up boottime on my laptop, can't find ifplugd in the apt-cache, am I missing something obvious (using hoary)
[02:01] <Hieronymus> Nefarous: try to find it on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:01] <Hieronymus> Nefarous: maybe it's in universe
[02:01] <Hieronymus> !packages
[02:01] <ubotu> from memory, packages is http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:02] <Nefarous> thanks, it' in universe (ifplugd)
[02:02] <Hieronymus> Nefarous: well, add universe then
[02:02] <Hieronymus> !sources
[02:02] <ubotu> it has been said that sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[02:02] <Hieronymus> !repositories
[02:02] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:03] <marc> I want this laptop, but its out of stock argh :(  http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0718902634.1120910113@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccdhaddfdijlkmkcflgceggdhhmdgmi.0&page=Product&sku=738534
[02:04] <Shinaku> I work there
[02:04] <Shinaku> Well, I have an interview arranged
[02:04] <thegrok> !apt-get
[02:04] <ubotu> methinks apt-get is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[02:04] <Shinaku> I wouldn't buy anything from them though
[02:04] <mpmc> I cannot access the proftpd webadmin because i don't know the root password :|
[02:05] <Fikrann> mpmc, that's because there is none, most probably, and root account on your machine is disabled.
[02:06] <Hieronymus> Fikrann: not disabled, just no password
[02:06] <Hieronymus> (-l)
[02:06] <marc> from who?
[02:06] <Fikrann> then do sudo passwd and set your root password.
[02:06] <marc> Shinaku, from who?
[02:07] <no0tic> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lSM what flag is SM ?? what library refers to?
[02:07] <Hieronymus> Fikrann: better to do sudo passwd root, just in case
[02:07] <Fikrann> Hieronymus, true.
[02:07] <Hieronymus> sudo is kind of... stupid/weird
[02:07] <Fikrann> I like it.
[02:07] <Hieronymus> !rootpasswd
[02:07] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:08] <adwait> hey ppl
[02:08] <HappyFool> !sudo
[02:08] <ubotu> sudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:08] <mjr> no0tic, I think it was the session management lib
[02:08] <marc> Anyone using HL2 under cedega?
[02:08] <Fikrann> sudo bash is your friend
[02:08] <adwait> *fixed
[02:08] <no0tic> mjr: thanks!
[02:08] <mjr> no0tic, not sure tho
[02:08] <HappyFool> sudo -i or sudo -s -H might be better
[02:08] <Hieronymus> ubotu: rootpasswd is to set up a root password, use sudo passwd root
[02:08] <ubotu> okay, Hieronymus
[02:08] <Fikrann> marc, I wish I had machine powerful enough ...
[02:08] <Hieronymus> !rootpasswd
[02:08] <ubotu> hmm... rootpasswd is to set up a root password, use sudo passwd root
[02:09] <Hieronymus> good bot
[02:09] <mjr> no0tic, well, I was right
[02:09] <Hieronymus> !good bot
[02:09] <ubotu> :)
[02:09] <adwait> hehehe
[02:09] <marc> Fikrann, :(  I was wondering the speed differences between cedega and native windows
[02:09] <mpmc> E: gforge-ldap-openldap:  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:09] <mpmc> what the hell
[02:10] <Fikrann> marc, I guess there's 20~50% speed decrease.
[02:10] <no0tic> mjr: thanks, it was; compiled succesfully
[02:11] <marc> I need a new wallpaper
[02:11] <Hieronymus> marc: ubuntu-calendar, but I think it's dead
[02:11] <Hieronymus> !ubuntucalendar
[02:11] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I give up, what is it?
[02:11] <Hieronymus> !ubuntu-calendar
[02:11] <ubotu> Hieronymus: Wish i knew
[02:11] <Hieronymus> !ubcalendar
[02:11] <ubotu> Hieronymus: I haven't a clue
[02:11] <Hieronymus> !ub-calendar
[02:11] <ubotu> Hieronymus: Bugger all, i dunno
[02:13] <marc> Hieronymus, yes its dead :(
[02:13] <marc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Linux#Ubuntu-calendar
[02:13] <Hieronymus> marc: any 'official' announcement for that?
[02:14] <dtygel> hi friends: I cannot record: I cannot make the microphone work... some idea? I Alsa it says it cannot open "default", and in "esd" nothing happens... I'm using soundblaster16 (old sound card)
[02:14] <Panzerboy> hey all
[02:14] <marc> Anyone happen to have the OS X panther wallpaper?
[02:14] <adwait> hey Panzerboy
[02:14] <marc> I remember liking that
[02:14] <Panzerboy> i'm following the ubuntu guide
[02:14] <Panzerboy> and i see there the backports repo
[02:14] <Fikrann> marc, Like that? http://www.rikanise.net/gallery/screenshots/screendump.l.005.jpg/zphoto_view }:>
[02:14] <Panzerboy> i've added it
[02:14] <adwait> !backports
[02:14] <ubotu> it has been said that backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[02:15] <Panzerboy> and now it wants me to do an dist-upgrade
[02:15] <Hieronymus> !ubguide
[02:15] <ubotu> ubguide is probably Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3)
[02:15] <Hieronymus> Panzerboy: Read what ubotu said
[02:15] <marc> Fikrann, wtf is that :P
[02:15] <Panzerboy> i am now, thanks
[02:16] <marc> !love
[02:16] <ubotu> somebody said love was life
[02:16] <Fikrann> marc, a well done fantasy pic. }:>
[02:16] <dtygel> does someone here know how to make a microphone work? I need to use skype... :(
[02:16] <adwait> philosopihical bot!
[02:16] <Hieronymus> dtygel: have you tried volume settings etc?
[02:16] <dtygel> hieronymus: yes... mic is on...
[02:17] <Fikrann> dtygel, you need to unmute few things in the mixer
[02:17] <dtygel> fikrann: I guess I unmuted everything...
[02:17] <marc> Fikrann, Its probably the mic capture level
[02:17] <Hieronymus> alright, what if you launch a record program and blow in the mic real hard? Does this raise the amplitude?
[02:17] <marc> dtygel, run alsamixer
[02:17] <adwait> dtygel: right click volume button on panel and in the capture tab...tryied tht
[02:17] <adwait> ?
[02:17] <Fikrann> dtygel, you might need to use the mixer preferences to get it to show all channels
[02:17] <marc> dtygel, Tab to the capture pane, and increase Mic, and lower PCM to zero
[02:18] <dtygel> I can hear the mic in alsamixer, when I push the volume high
[02:18] <marc> dtygel, What do you mean you can hear the mic?
[02:18] <dtygel> but then nothing happens in skype...
[02:18] <taomaster> is the java install in the synaptic package manager?
[02:18] <Fikrann> dtygel, have you killed esd?
[02:18] <dtygel> marc: I run alsamixer...
[02:19] <dtygel> marc: and then I turn high the "mic" volume,
[02:19] <dtygel> marc: and then I can hear the sound when I talk in the mic.
[02:19] <marc> dtygel, Thats just the mic output
[02:19] <Fikrann> dtygel, you might want to look for "+20 dB mic boost"
[02:19] <dtygel> but wehen I run the sound recorder, it fials...
[02:19] <marc> dtygel, You need to tab to the CAPTURE pane and increase the mic there
[02:19] <Panzerboy> Hieronymus: however i don't get it, where exactly in the ubuntuguide is this wrong information?
[02:19] <dtygel> marc: I did it.
[02:19] <dtygel> to no avail :(
[02:19] <Panzerboy> basically all that's said there is: don't go to that site, come to the wiki
[02:20] <Panzerboy> i am not criticising, i am just trying to understand what's wrong in the guide
[02:20] <Hieronymus> Panzerboy: not all information in the ubuntu guide is wrong, but it doesn't explain you what you're doing, and the wiki explains stuff better
[02:20] <Hieronymus> !wiki
[02:20] <dtygel> soundrecorder simply crashes... do you understand? it's some misconfiguration for the input...
[02:21] <liz4rd> whats the name of the package for the windows movie codecs?
[02:21] <Panzerboy> Hieronymus: i see
[02:21] <Fikrann> dtygel, have you stopped esd?
[02:21] <marc> liz4rd, w32codecs I think
[02:21] <Panzerboy> well, i am not a newbie, so i guess i can use the guide :)
[02:21] <Panzerboy> cause i understand what's there :)
[02:21] <dtygel> fikram: no, it's working ok
[02:21] <Fikrann> skype won't work if esd is running.
[02:21] <dtygel> fikrann: but without esd how can I use the mic?
[02:22] <Panzerboy> i just wanted to know if the backports are safe to use, but I can see it written in those guidelines
[02:22] <dtygel> fikrann: alsa doesn't work for me when I set it in "multimedia selector" in preferences menu...
[02:22] <Fikrann> simply use. Skype won't get to the mic with esd running
[02:22] <marc> Skype likes my mic :)
[02:23] <marc> I cant stop calling echo123 all day
[02:23] <Fikrann> hehe
[02:23] <marc> That women doesnt mind chatting to me all day
[02:23] <CarinArr> i'm trying to install a belkin wireless adapter (f5d7050), using ndiswrapper and the windows drivers.. but i get an 'oops' from the kernel and dmesg says: Windows driver is not 64-bit; bad magic: 010B
[02:23] <CarinArr> ndiswrapper (load_sys_files:523): unable to prepare driver 'rt2500usb'
[02:23] <CarinArr> Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at<PHONE_NUMBER>000010
[02:23] <dtygel> marc and fikrann: ok, how do I kill esd? by "kill" or using a command?
[02:23] <CarinArr> er sorry didn't mean to splitthat over several lines
[02:23] <ptlo> Fikrann: on skype web pages i've found info that skype works with esd if you're running it with esddsp (http://www.skype.com/help/guides/soundsetup_linux.html). i haven't tried it yet because i'm just now in the process of getting the mic :)
[02:24] <CarinArr> is it basically saying that the problem's cause by me trying to use a 32 bit driver on a 64 bit system? cause afaik there aren't any 64 bit drivers for my adapter
[02:24] <Hieronymus> CarinArr: I think that's what it's saying
[02:24] <marc> dtygel, Gconf /desktop/gnome/sound/enable_esd and set it to false
[02:25] <CarinArr> does anyone know if there's a way to use the 32 bit driver without actually reverting to 32 bit ubuntu?
[02:25] <Hieronymus> !chroot
[02:25] <ubotu> well, chroot is at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:25] <Hieronymus> maybe that
[02:25] <Hieronymus> (not sure)
[02:25] <marc> !chicken
[02:25] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, chicken is what people think it tastes like
[02:25] <adwait> "it"
[02:25] <adwait> ?
[02:25] <dtygel> marc, thanks: I'll check it...
[02:26] <Fikrann> ptlo, thank you!
[02:26] <Hieronymus> ubotu forget chicken
[02:26] <ubotu> i forgot chicken, Hieronymus
[02:26] <dtygel> ptlo: I will try the esddsp... must install it first, right?
[02:26] <marc> Argh, I thought wohoo, desktop images from the russian womens network
[02:27] <marc> But no, they are images contributed by russian women who use computers
[02:27] <marc> ARGH :(
[02:27] <CarinArr> thanks Hieronymus
[02:27] <ptlo> dtygel: it's in the esound-clients package
[02:27] <ptlo> also, re skype: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21186.html (someone reported it had trouble running esddsp on hoary...)
[02:27] <Fikrann> marc, poor you }:>
[02:28] <sunrex> good..finnaly got my website up
[02:28] <dtygel> ptlo: thanks again...
[02:29] <marc> Fikrann, Tell me about it, first the laptop i want is out of stock and now i cant find a wallpaper.  And to top it all off Gnome still will not let me use OS X application menu behaviours :(
[02:29] <sunrex> ok i have 0 sound is there anything i can do about this, i have Sound Blaster LIVE! 24 bit
[02:30] <Fikrann> marc, awww.
[02:30] <marc> sunrex, Try this
[02:30] <bojangles>  ptlo why post that old stuff about artsdsp or esddsp...that was yesterday's solution.....everybody today is moving to a polyaudio approach
[02:30] <marc> sunrex, actually ignore me
[02:30] <sunrex> ?
[02:30] <sunrex> marc: why..
[02:30] <ptlo> bojangles, well then i'm a yesterdays guy...i haven't heard about polyaudio .. any pointers?
[02:31] <Hoxzer> ;)
[02:32] <marc> sunrex, ok lets try
[02:32] <adwait> friends, romans and country bumpkins.............if i edit the resolv.conf, does the computer immidietly start using the new DNS servers?
[02:32] <marc> sunrex, you in Gnome?
[02:32] <sunrex> marc: im in what came with the disk lol...not sure really....i downloaded it i didint change anything
[02:32] <dtygel> ptlo, marc: well: when I kill esd, skype works (it doesn't hang), but the mic doesn't work :( I'm testing echo123 to no avail)
[02:32] <ptlo> bojangles, oh, found it... although it seems to me on the first glance (on the ubuntuforums) that it's far from complete
[02:32] <adwait> friends, romans and country bumpkins.............if i edit the resolv.conf, does the computer immidietly start using the new DNS servers?.....somebody?anybody?
[02:33] <dtygel> ptlo: and I read that esddsp doesn't work in hoary...
[02:33] <marc> sunrex, look in the top right corner, should be a small speaker symbol, does it look muted?
[02:33] <sunrex> marc: theres no speaker symbol
[02:33] <marc> dtygel, My skype worked on a default hoary install.. mhmm other than checking the mic capture levels in alsamixers, which you said you already did Im not sure
[02:34] <marc> sunrex, not one next to the date?
[02:34] <marc> sunrex, di you install ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[02:34] <bimberi> adwait: yes
[02:34] <sunrex> marc: im not sure my desktop looks like the ones in the photos
[02:34] <BiSK-8> hello
[02:34] <WhiteRabbit> sunrex, in a console use alsamixer & hit m on the audigy jack
[02:34] <Fikrann> adwait, yes, it does
[02:34] <dtygel> marc: and worse of all: sounds only work with esd enabled. But then will skype hang. And if I turn esd off, skype works but not the mic...
[02:35] <marc> WhiteRabbit, Hes not using an audigy tho?
[02:35] <adwait> thx Fikrann billytwowilly
[02:35] <adwait> *bimberi
[02:35] <bimberi> adwait: btw you can use "nslookup" to see which nameserver is geing used
[02:35] <WhiteRabbit> marc, sunrex ok i have 0 sound is there anything i can do about this, i have Sound Blaster LIVE! 24 bit... ;)~ ....
[02:35] <Fikrann> dtygel, try running skype with esddsp
[02:35] <BiSK-8> i started to extract and compile a tar.gz file but didn't finish. Now on my desktop there is a folder that i cant delete. How could i delete it?
[02:35] <sunrex> marc: http://www.ubuntu.com/include/ubuntu3.png
[02:35] <bimberi> adwait: np :)
[02:35] <adwait> bimberi: :)
[02:36] <Hieronymus> sunrex: gnome
[02:36] <BiSK-8> any1 know?
[02:36] <marc> sunrex, Ok in a console, type alsamixer,  Goto audigy analogue/digital output jack and press m on it
[02:36] <bojangles> and anyway why all this talk about skype...that was yesterday's stuff they have a new free software project where the code will be release
[02:36] <sunrex> alsamixer
[02:36] <Hieronymus> BiSK-8: who 'owns' the folder?
[02:36] <dtygel> fikrann: in hoary esddsp doesn't work... I think it's some misconfiguration of my old soundcard: it's a soundblaster16... oh god... that's complicated :(
[02:37] <marc> Skype is from the same people that brought you kazaa :P
[02:37] <sunrex> marc: u mean terminal?
[02:37] <BiSK-8> hieronymous: 667
[02:37] <Hieronymus> bojangles: what new free software project?
[02:37] <bojangles> i hear the new project will use a sip approach and release the software as GPL
[02:37] <marc> sunrex, yes i do :)
[02:37] <Hieronymus> marc: yes, remember the spyware?
[02:37] <Hieronymus> marc: and it's non-free binary-only
[02:37] <Hieronymus> bojangles: sip is nice
[02:37] <marc> Hieronymus, Yep :) and the adware, and the endless amounts of mps and pr0n i downloaded :)
[02:38] <marc> mp3's :P
[02:38] <Hieronymus> bojangles: are you perhaps talking about gizmo? That's not free
[02:38] <sunrex> marc: so just plain old alsamixer? couse it says file not found
[02:38] <marc> sunrex, just type  alsamixer
[02:38] <BiSK-8> hieronymus: 667
[02:38] <sunrex> marc: tyler@Darkworks:~$ alsamixer
[02:38] <sunrex> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[02:38] <sunrex> tyler@Darkworks:~$
[02:38] <Hieronymus> BiSK-8: man chmod and figure what that means
[02:40] <marc> might need alsaconf :/ but you will need to download that
[02:40] <sunrex> marc: ..lol
[02:40] <marc> I dunno :P
[02:40] <marc> whos got skype?
[02:40] <marc> I wanna call someone
[02:40] <sunrex> marc: i dont need to do that in root terminal do i
[02:40] <HappyFool> sunrex: do you know what sounds card you have?
[02:40] <HappyFool> sound card, even
[02:40] <Fikrann> hehe
[02:40] <sunrex> HappyFool: SoundBlaster LIVE! 24-bit
[02:40] <HappyFool> sunrex: take a look here if you do: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[02:41] <marc> Give me you skype id Fikrann  :P
[02:41] <HappyFool> sunrex: according to that page you need the latest alsa
[02:41] <sunrex> thks
[02:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is it possible to transmit with beep media player?
[02:41] <dtygel> marc and ptlo: I'm testing the input source in the "multimedia systems selector"
[02:41] <sunrex> what drive
[02:42] <dtygel> marc and ptlo and fikrann: with alsa, I get the following error: "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'"
[02:42] <sunrex> HappyFool: which one
[02:42] <HappyFool> sunrex: i don't know. you can read this page for installing alsa (but for a different card)
[02:42] <sunrex> happyfool:  ca0106 ?
[02:43] <HappyFool> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[02:43] <HappyFool> sunrex: on the wiki page? stand by...
[02:43] <dtygel> marc, ptlo and fikrann: and in esd it crashes after recording. But it works...
[02:43] <HappyFool> sunrex: that's the entry i was referring to, yes
[02:43] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: you can use !wiki to let ubotu help you with wiki pages
[02:43] <marc> dtygel, ew, sounds nasty
[02:43] <HappyFool> oh?
[02:43] <sunrex> HappyFool: thks ill try this then
[02:44] <dtygel> marc: :(
[02:44] <HappyFool> !wiki BinaryDriverHowto
[02:44] <Hieronymus> HappyFool: yes, you should "help" in a private chat with it once
[02:44] <Hieronymus> what the hell, he's not functioning
[02:44] <Fikrann> marc, you don't want to chat with me .. I'm currently quite sick and having someone cough in your ear is probably not what you want.
[02:44] <Hieronymus> !bad bot1
[02:44] <ubotu> Hieronymus: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:44] <Hieronymus> !bad bot!
[02:44] <ubotu> Hieronymus: Are you smoking crack?
[02:45] <Fikrann> heh
[02:45] <sunrex> HappyFool: sould i just go with the wiki page u gave me and see if that works?
[02:45] <marc> you have esd-alsa installed?
[02:45] <HappyFool> sunrex: you will need to change the instructions slightly -- that second page is for a different sort of card
[02:46] <HappyFool> sunrex: try the 'configure' option without specifying a card type
[02:46] <marc> oh dtygel left :(
[02:46] <HappyFool> sunrex: additionally, the procedure described will overwrite files installed by the linux-image-* package; i don't know what will happen if/when this package is upgraded
[02:47] <marc> Anyone suggest a real nice multiplayer game?
[02:47] <mindspin> freeciv
[02:47] <marc> Anything a little faster paced?
[02:48] <bojangles> Hieronymus, yes it is called ProjGizmo...and they will release the code for absolutely free in August for Linux....so everyone can steal it for themselves....i saw a news article on it....they want to drive skype out of business
[02:48] <ColonelKernel> doom3 runs far better w ubuntu than windows
[02:48] <Hieronymus> bojangles: free as in speech, I hope?
[02:48] <bojangles> Hieronymus, plus gaim has made plans for this summer to have their own VOIP stuff with sip that can also pierce the NAT firewalls
[02:49] <Hieronymus> die, Skype!
[02:49] <marc> Skypes probably already achieved what it was intended for, so i doubt they will mind
[02:49] <HappyFool> marc: scorched3d (not terribly fast, admittedly)
[02:49] <Hieronymus> !motugames
[02:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, motugames is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUGames
[02:49] <marc> HappyFool, Anything like soldat?
[02:49] <HappyFool> marc: no
[02:49] <HappyFool> marc: turn-based
[02:49] <BiSK-8> can any1 help me with the installation of a tar.gz program?
[02:49] <marc> HappyFool, Nono, i know scorched3d is like scorched earth, but is there any game like soldat available?
[02:49] <Fikrann> marc, besides, I just realised that I've no fsck'ing idea what my skype handle was.
[02:50] <HappyFool> oh, i see
[02:50] <HappyFool> marc: sorry, i don't know
[02:50] <marc> HappyFool, kk
[02:50] <marc> Fikrann, Bah :P
[02:50] <sunrex> ..
[02:50] <HappyFool> there are lots of games in universe/multiverse
[02:50] <sunrex> HappyFool: were is the soundcore module?
[02:50] <marc> Anyone let me skype em?
[02:51] <HappyFool> sunrex: in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/* somewhere
[02:51] <sunrex> HappyFool: thks
[02:51] <HappyFool> sunrex: try 'locate soundcore.ko'  -- i get /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/soundcore.ko
[02:51] <marc> No linux version of gizmo until next month argh :(
[02:52] <Chetic> Is there a decent free flight simulator?
[02:52] <bojangles> Hieronymus, it is all very good news...that all the source code will be released for free as GPL...so that the free-hardware manufacturers will not suffer the high cost of paying programmers....and can distribute their free hardware designs less expensively...perhaps some in the form of mobile devices even
[02:52] <HappyFool> flightgear is pretty good
[02:52] <Fikrann> Chetic, if you don't mind flying old airplanes, check out Sabre
[02:52] <sunrex> HappyFool:i found it but how do i turn it on..
[02:52] <marc> And, project gizmo is from the same guy that brought us lindows/linspire ARGH think id rather stay with the kazaa/skype boys :P
[02:52] <HappyFool> Chetic: but no combat support. not sure what you want
[02:53] <HappyFool> sunrex: 'modprobe soundcore'
[02:53] <Chetic> yeah I'm not looking for combat, just want to fly a plane
[02:53] <sunrex> HappyFool:?
[02:53] <Chetic> thanks HappyFool & Fikrann
[02:53] <HappyFool> sunrex: what is your question?
[02:53] <marc> Chetic, Check out gl-117
[02:53] <Fikrann> Chetic, then flightgear's better .. the graphics is somewhat on the simple side.
[02:53] <sunrex> HappyFool:it says i have to turn it on..but i cant open it so how do i turn it on
[02:53] <Chetic> k marc
[02:53] <marc> more of an action game than a simulator tho
[02:54] <sunrex> HappyFool:2) You must turn on sound support (soundcore module).
[02:54] <Chetic> :\
[02:54] <bojangles> Hieronymus, and neither will they have to pay programmers nor patent royalties....or copyright fees or anything else.
[02:54] <HappyFool> sunrex: turn what on? Where are you reading these instructions?
[02:54] <Fikrann> gl-117 is highly action game.
[02:54] <js_> sunrex: run alsaconf
[02:54] <HappyFool> js_: alsaconf is not included in ubuntu, afaik
[02:54] <BiSK-8> can u ppl tell me all the applications i need to install a .tar.gz program. (apps that i can get by sudo apt-get)
[02:55] <bojangles> Hieronymus, this is exactly why RMS personally wrote GNUscape Navigator to put the expensive Netscape Navigator programmers out of business
[02:55] <Hieronymus> BiSK-8: build-essential
[02:55] <HappyFool> BiSK-8: if you wish to install from source, you will need an appropriate compiler, and libraries
[02:55] <BiSK-8> k
[02:55] <BiSK-8> thanks
[02:55] <sunrex> HappyFool:on here..ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/ well i got the driver off it and it came with file
[02:55] <BiSK-8> how di i get em?
[02:56] <HappyFool> BiSK-8: try installing build-essential, and see how far you get
[02:56] <marc> BiSK-8,  apt-get install build-essential
[02:56] <BiSK-8> i already did
[02:56] <HappyFool> 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[02:56] <Fikrann> BiSK-8, you will probably need linux-headers for your kernel.
[02:56] <HappyFool> sunrex: the alsa page has instructions per card, afaik
[02:56] <Chetic> What about driving simulators(/games)? Are there any good ones?
[02:57] <BiSK-8> how do i get em?
[02:57] <sunrex> HappyFool:?
[02:57] <Fikrann> HappyFool, they aren't very useful for a noob.
[02:57] <Hieronymus> Chetic: torcs
[02:57] <Chetic> hm k
[02:57] <Fikrann> Chetic, torcs works but it crashes after one race for me.
[02:58] <Chetic> :\
[02:58] <BiSK-8> can i pm any1?
[02:58] <BiSK-8> (any1 willing 2 help me)
[02:58] <marc> I dont like Torcs, its about as fun as a steam ship simulator
[02:58] <Fikrann> hehe
[02:58] <Hieronymus> marc: true :)
[02:58] <marc> BiSK-8, type in the console uname -r
[02:58] <Chetic> what? lol
[02:59] <BiSK-8> ???
[02:59] <HappyFool> sunrex: see here: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Sound+Blaster+LS.&chip=SB0310%2C+P17&module=ca0106
[02:59] <BiSK-8> why should i?
[03:00] <HappyFool> sunrex: what does 'lsmod|grep ^soundcore' say?
[03:00] <sunrex> HappyFool:i had it a few secs before..
[03:00] <sunrex> HappyFool:what u mean
[03:00] <HappyFool> sunrex: type that command in the terminal
[03:00] <Chetic> Any other simulators? I really feel like simulating right now :p
[03:00] <HappyFool> sunrex: and tell me what the output is
[03:00] <marc> BiSK-8, so you can tell me what kernel your using :P
[03:00] <sunrex> nothing happend
[03:00] <sunrex> u mean in root terminal?
[03:01] <HappyFool> no, any terminal
[03:01] <sunrex> nothing happend then
[03:01] <HappyFool> sunrex: how about 'modprobe soundcore' ?
[03:01] <BiSK-8> oh
[03:01] <sunrex> HappyFool:tyler@Darkworks:~$ modprobe soundcore
[03:01] <sunrex> FATAL: Error inserting soundcore (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/soundcore.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:01] <sunrex> tyler@Darkworks:~$
[03:01] <HappyFool> sunrex: sorry, 'sudo modprobe soundcore'
[03:02] <Hieronymus> !info torcs
[03:02] <ubotu> torcs: (3D racing cars simulator game using OpenGL), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 1.2.2-5ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 2325 kB, Installed size: 29824 kB
[03:02] <BiSK-8> i'm using the cernel that comes with the last ubuntu
[03:02] <Chetic> Hieronymus, you know any other simulators? :p
[03:02] <sunrex> HappyFool:tyler@Darkworks:~$ sudo modprobe soundcore
[03:02] <sunrex> Password:
[03:02] <sunrex> tyler@Darkworks:~$ sudo modprobe soundcore
[03:02] <sunrex> tyler@Darkworks:~$ sudo modprobe soundcore
[03:02] <sunrex> tyler@Darkworks:~$
[03:02] <HappyFool> only once
[03:03] <anatole_> re
[03:03] <HappyFool> and please don't paste more than two lines here
[03:03] <marc> BiSK-8, Your system x86?
[03:03] <sunrex> HappyFool: i did nothing happend
[03:03] <anatole_> anyone could help, if this ubuntu box is the server, how to avoid windows clients from getting internet? i'd like to use networking though
[03:03] <BiSK-8> i386, yep
[03:03] <Fikrann> sunrex, modprobe will not display anything if it succeeded.
[03:03] <sunrex> so...all i need is the driver then lol
[03:03] <HappyFool> sunrex: soundcore appears to be working as desired
[03:03] <capi_> how do you accept input in a bash cmd? like `./script input' ?
[03:04] <BiSK-8> marc: i386, yep
[03:04] <sven-tek_gaim> anatole_ many ways to do it, most simple would be a passworded proxy server
[03:04] <Hieronymus> Chetic: no
[03:04] <Hieronymus> Chetic: but gl-117 is a cool flight game
[03:04] <HappyFool> sunrex: try to follow the instructions on the alsa page
[03:04] <anatole_> sven-tek_gaim: and how to do that? is there a howto for it?
[03:04] <Gourami> Hi, does anyone know how I can stop my external monitor from blanking when I close the laptops lid ?
[03:04] <capi_> *bash scripting file, not bash cmd
[03:04] <Fikrann> anatole, install shorewall, then follow howtos on http://shorewall.net/
[03:04] <marc> BiSK-8, apt-get install linux-headers-386
[03:04] <sunrex> HappyFool: i will...what driver do i need =/
[03:04] <Chetic> :\
[03:04] <Hieronymus> Chetic: it can also be used in 'simulator mode' but I don't know if it's really a sim
[03:04] <HappyFool> capi_: use $1 for the first parameter -- is that what you mean?
[03:04] <Chetic> I don't like the graphics..
[03:04] <HappyFool> sunrex: ca0106, afaict
[03:05] <capi_> yes,  thats what I was lokign for. :)
[03:05] <sunrex> HappyFool:but were do i get it..i got the page...but theres no downloads
[03:05] <HappyFool> sunrex: there's a download link at the top of the page
[03:05] <BiSK-8> marc, i'm done
[03:05] <HappyFool> sunrex: you don't just download one driver; you download the whole of alsa, i believe
[03:06] <sven-tek_gaim> anatole_: you can use apache or what ever proxy server
[03:06] <BiSK-8> it still gives me error
[03:06] <BiSK-8> marc: may i pm
[03:06] <marc> Chetic, cedega X-plane.exe
[03:06] <HappyFool> sunrex: this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HdaIntelSoundHowto will give you an idea of what you must do -- but note that it's for a different card
[03:06] <marc> Chetic, :P
[03:06] <marc> BiSK-8, sure
[03:06] <Chetic> marc, wtf is X-plane? :p
[03:07] <marc> Chetic, http://www.x-plane.com/
[03:07] <sunrex> HappyFool:i wish u could just do it for me..like remote acsess lol
[03:07] <Hieronymus> !info xplane
[03:07] <Hieronymus> !info x-plane
[03:07] <Hieronymus> ubotu Package 'x-plane' does not exist.
[03:07] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Hieronymus
[03:08] <marc> Chetic, Wait There is a linux version of x-plane too
[03:08] <Jonax> Quick question - What would the command line be to extract a .tar.bz2 file?
[03:08] <Hieronymus> Jonax: tar -xvjf
[03:08] <Hoxzer> ;)
[03:08] <Tsukasa> tar --bzip2 -xvf
[03:08] <Chetic> marc, I'm not going to PAY for it :p
[03:08] <Hoxzer> this is such a pitty
[03:08] <Hieronymus> Jonax: or figure out yourself: man tar
[03:08] <Hoxzer> we should give a love to each other
[03:08] <bojangles> and all these programmers recently complaining that they can't make any money off of free or even open source software.....well that is strange because IBM, Intel, SGI, HP, Dell, AMD, Sony, Sun, Epson....have no problem making billions of dollars off of free software
[03:08] <marc> Chetic, http://<IP_ADDRESS>/XLIN811b.tar.bz2
[03:09] <BiSK-8> marc: <----pm
[03:10] <Chetic> marc, DCC me some $ and I might actually try it :p
[03:10] <znh> -[bleep] -
[03:10] <bojangles> and what do all those have in common...that distinguishes them from the starving programmers.
[03:10] <Tsukasa> I think at least IBM, SGI, HP, Dell and Sun make some big bucks from their server market where they utilize open source
[03:10] <marc> bojangles, They get paid supporting free software, not programming it
[03:11] <Tsukasa> so they don't make a living purely out of open source
[03:11] <bojangles> marc, well i am just saying that the free software programmers should stop complaining and start writing the right type of code that will make them billions.
[03:11] <eruin> anyone here using gaim2?
[03:12] <marc> how can they make money off of free software?
[03:12] <bojangles> marc, it would seem that if they implement their code in hardware they won't have a problem making any money..
[03:12] <Tsukasa> the age where you can make a fortune by hacking around your spectrum computer in a garage are over
[03:13] <marc> bojangles, so they are making money off hardware, and not software?
[03:13] <Jonax> exit
[03:13] <Jonax> Whoops - Sos, bash flashback :)
[03:13] <marc> bojangles, In a highly competitive market where the big boys control everything?
[03:13] <bojangles> marc, after all SGI got the MIPS code for free from Stanford University since it was paid for by the taxpayers.....and they made billions of dollars from the MIPS processors..
[03:14] <bojangles> marc, and IBM got the RISC code from Berkeley for free where it was paid for by the taxpayers.....and they made billions of dollars off of it
[03:15] <marc> bojangles, I understand that, but the free software developer is always left out of the loop of making money
[03:15] <othernoob> maybe that's why they are "free software developer"...just a thought..
[03:15] <Hoxzer> sometimes my best wasn't good enought for youuu
[03:15] <Hoxzer> sometimes I lett youu go
[03:15] <bojangles> marc, not if they design their own processors, microcode, firmware, bios, etc., bus strategies,
[03:15] <Hoxzer> sometimes I heart you so
[03:16] <Hoxzer> I know that I can be the meanest person in the world
[03:17] <bigredjoe1310> anyone know of a list of repositories for ubuntu besides the default and guide?
[03:17] <bojangles> marc, hell some of them plan on making lots and lots of money off of their TPM module and DRM code
[03:17] <ColonelKernel> mplayer wont install
[03:17] <ColonelKernel> it lists a bunch of depends but says theyre not installable
[03:18] <itz> How do i change sudo password.. i cant find root or sudo in users/group
[03:19] <Tsukasa> ColonelKernel, did you run apt-get with sudo? :)
[03:19] <ColonelKernel> yes
[03:19] <jcoxon> itz, sudo passwd
[03:19] <marc> why is my system going down for reboot in 10 secs
[03:19] <Hieronymus> ColonelKernel: breezy?
[03:19] <Hieronymus> marc: someone did sudo shutdown 10
[03:19] <ColonelKernel> it did it as root
[03:19] <ColonelKernel> Hieronymus, warty
[03:19] <marc> Im the only user lol
[03:19] <sexcopter8000m> does anyone have bitlbee here?
[03:20] <Hieronymus> ColonelKernel: what is your sources.list?
[03:20] <itz> jcoxon, thx worked like charm ;)
[03:20] <ColonelKernel> Hieronymus, ill paste it on pastebin
[03:20] <Hieronymus> that's good
[03:21] <jcoxon> itz, no probs
[03:21] <ColonelKernel> Hieronymus, http://pastebin.com/309993
[03:22] <ColonelKernel> it cut off the backports section a little w my bad cut /paste
[03:22] <Hieronymus> ColonelKernel: you don't have main enabled, that'll give you problems
[03:22] <ColonelKernel> doh
[03:23] <Hieronymus> !sources
[03:23] <ubotu> I heard sources is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[03:23] <Hieronymus> make a new one based upon what ubotu said
[03:23] <Hieronymus> !good bot
[03:23] <ubotu> :)
[03:23] <ColonelKernel> Hieronymus, thanks
[03:26] <Hieronymus> ColonelKernel: okay, post again on pastebin if you did that
[03:26] <Hieronymus> I'll review it
[03:28] <sunrex> got a question..why dont they just make it so everything comes pre-installed?
[03:28] <sunrex> is there any lunix like that?
[03:29] <apokryphos> sunrex: because that we be very many gigabytes, and useless ones, for most.
[03:29] <Hieronymus> sunrex: 'lunix' what's that? Are you talking about the Linux kernel?
[03:29] <Hieronymus> !linux
[03:29] <ubotu> hmm... linux is the "kernel", or core of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of Linux. For more information on Linux in general, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[03:31] <djtansey> does anyone know if the next version of ubuntu/gnome will have easier open-with "other" dialogs? i just downloaded an mpg and firefox asked me, "would you like to open this is -xine-" with xine in the drop-down box. i wanted to use totem, so i said "other" and put in /usr/bin/totem -- but you can't expect newbies to do that. shouldn't it show programs form the applicatoins menu?
[03:31] <sunrex> what games are there right now with lunix support anyway
[03:32] <BiSK-8> all games work on linux
[03:32] <BiSK-8> use wine
[03:32] <sunrex> were do i get wine again. the free one
[03:32] <BiSK-8> sudo
[03:32] <BiSK-8> sudo apt-get install wine
[03:32] <jcoxon> sunrex, some games have linux binaries
[03:33] <sunrex> like...lol
[03:33] <jcoxon> sunrex, which you use with the original cd
[03:33] <jcoxon> sunrex, i think castle wolfenstein (as in the new one)
[03:33] <jcoxon> sunrex, and i think quake 3
[03:33] <sunrex> ok i got wine..now were is it =/
[03:33] <James> I cannot view any of the Real or WM video streams on the BBC News site. Nor does Firefox find a relevant plugin. How can I get them to work?
[03:34] <sunrex> once i sudo wine how do i use it lol
[03:34] <BiSK-8> lololol
[03:35] <BiSK-8> applications-->run-->wine
[03:35] <BiSK-8> any1 of u ppl like star wars?
[03:35] <itz> James, got same problem
[03:35] <James> itz: no solution?
[03:36] <itz> havent tried
[03:36] <James> oh
[03:36] <itz> James,  just wanna say it so u didnt think it was something wrong at ur install ;)
[03:37] <James> itz: oh okay, thanks! :)
[03:37] <sunrex> is wine always this slow lol
[03:37] <Panzerboy> can anybody pls tell me what this means?
[03:37] <Panzerboy> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/imlib2/libimlib2_1.1.2-2.1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[03:37] <BiSK-8> can any1 help me delete a file from the desktop?
[03:38] <sunrex> oh um whats the website that tells u how to install the games with wine?
[03:38] <deFrysk> klik it once and hit hte del button
[03:38] <James> BiSK-8: drag it to the wastebasket.
[03:38] <BiSK-8> duh
[03:38] <BiSK-8> wint work
[03:38] <BiSK-8> wont*
[03:38] <James> BiSK-8: ask the right question, get the right answer
[03:38] <BiSK-8> access denied
[03:38] <James> What's the file?
[03:39] <BiSK-8> a folder
[03:39] <James> called?
[03:39] <djtansey> Panzerboy. That is an unusual problem. It means that it downloaded the file but then the signature of the file (to confirm that it got what it was expecting) didn't match. this can happen when the whole file didn't download or for other reasons. are you using the command line apt-get or synaptic?
[03:39] <BiSK-8> called hydra-2.2
[03:39] <Panzerboy> djtansey: apt-get
[03:39] <BiSK-8> a half compiled tarball
[03:39] <itz> kgsudo nautilus /home/usr  then try
[03:39] <Panzerboy> command line
[03:39] <James> BiSK-8: it's probably not owned by you, but by "root".
[03:40] <itz> BiSK-8, kgsudo nautilus /home/usr  then try
[03:40] <deFrysk> sudo rm blah
[03:40] <deFrysk> sudo rm -rf blah
[03:40] <Panzerboy> djtansey: should i try again ?
[03:40] <djtansey> Panzerboy: try sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install (or whever you were doing) again. it might just be because there is an update to the file that wasn't there last time you did apt-get update
[03:40] <Panzerboy> djtansey: ok, thanks
[03:40] <BiSK-8> i tried 2 delete it through root
[03:40] <BiSK-8> but wont work
[03:41] <markus> How do I enable dma for my cdrom?
[03:41] <Panzerboy> djtansey: the problem is at the download, apparently it doesn't download the whole file
[03:41] <Panzerboy> i wonder why though
[03:41] <djtansey> Panzerboy: i don't know how proficient you are. you can find the .deb file that failed in /var/cache/apt/archives and delete it and try again. or you can do an apt-get clean (which removes all downloaded deb files. something you should do from time to time anyway to save some space)
[03:41] <James> BiSK-8: try using the terminal. Type "cd Desktop", and then "sudo rm hydra-2.2".
[03:42] <djtansey> Panzerboy: you tried an apt-get update? it might be something wrong with the server -- it might have a corrupt copy of the file or have some other issue
[03:42] <Panzerboy> djtansey: i think will manage to find the deb, thanks a lot
[03:42] <BiSK-8> wont work
[03:42] <Panzerboy> djtansey: i tried apt-get update
[03:42] <Panzerboy> then install again
[03:42] <djtansey> Panzerboy: it should /var/cache/apt/archives/imlib2/libimlib2_1.1.2-2.1_i386.deb
[03:43] <James> BiSK-8: why, same error?
[03:43] <BiSK-8> yes
[03:43] <Panzerboy> djtansey: nope, not there
[03:43] <Panzerboy> not even the directory is there
[03:43] <BiSK-8> root@bisk8:/home/bisk8/Desktop # sudo rm hydra-2.2
[03:43] <BiSK-8> rm: impossibile rimuovere `hydra-2.2': Is a directory
[03:43] <BiSK-8> root@bisk8:/home/bisk8/Desktop #
[03:43] <djtansey> Panzer: sorry -- get rid of the imlib2 part --
[03:43] <Panzerboy> it is in partial
[03:43] <James> BiSK-8: sorry, type: "sudo rm -rf hydra-2.2"
[03:44] <BiSK-8> thanks
[03:44] <Panzerboy> djtansey: i've deleted it from partial
[03:44] <BiSK-8> it worked
[03:44] <Panzerboy> djtansey: i'll try again
[03:44] <sunrex> *sigh* how do you get starcraft to run with wine
[03:44] <markus> How do I disable services in ubuntu?
[03:44] <djtansey> Panzer: that's interesting. so yeah -- probably a download error. but your connection is okay?
[03:44] <sunrex> i mean by every time i try to play it it says 'no cd' or somthing like that
[03:44] <BiSK-8> cya all 2morrow
[03:44] <BiSK-8> bye
[03:44] <Gourami> sunrex, buy the original :)
[03:44] <Panzerboy> djtansey: well, i am experiencing some times some strange problems with apt-get
[03:45] <sunrex> i have the original
[03:45] <Panzerboy> djtansey: no matter what mirror i try, sometimes, it's very slow
[03:45] <sunrex> im using normal free wine
[03:45] <djtansey> Panzer: where are you (geographically)
[03:45] <Panzerboy> djtansey: but the browsing and other downloads (for example from firefox) are ok
[03:45] <Panzerboy> djtansey: romania
[03:45] <sunrex> it installed fine..but it just wont play it does not detect the cd..
[03:45] <Panzerboy> djtansey: same thing with imlib
[03:45] <djtansey> Panzerboy: yeah. i get some slow speeds from  time to time. you're using the US mirror. there are closer ones.
[03:45] <eskaypey> how to take the outline of the window off when it goes to tray when minimizing it
[03:46] <Panzerboy> djtansey: it downloads around 175K
[03:46] <Panzerboy> from the file
[03:46] <Gourami> sunrex then get a cracked copy
[03:46] <Panzerboy> from 185K
[03:46] <Panzerboy> hmm
[03:46] <Panzerboy> so strange
[03:46] <Panzerboy> other apt-get installs were ok
[03:46] <sunrex> Gourami: u mean its not just wine screwing up? it works FINE on windows..
[03:46] <Panzerboy> even the whole update
[03:46] <Panzerboy> went ok
[03:46] <djtansey> Panzerboy: the us.archive.ubuntu.com file is corrupt, i think. i just downloaded it and dpkg --info borked.
[03:46] <Panzerboy> ok, i will switch the mirror then
[03:46] <eskaypey> anyone?
[03:47] <djtansey> Panzer: k
[03:47] <Panzerboy> but i guess on all the mirrors it will be the same
[03:47] <Panzerboy> or ?
[03:47] <Gourami> winehq reports that starcraft is one of the proven apps to work on wine, I havent tried it myself though
[03:47] <sunrex> it installs fine..i guess the CDROM just wont be detected couse of the windows programs on it
[03:48] <Hieronymus> Gourami: please do not suggest cracking
[03:48] <djtansey> Panzerboy: just tried http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/imlib2/libimlib2_1.1.2-2.1_i386.deb
[03:48] <djtansey>  -- it worked.
[03:48] <sunrex> is there somthing i have to do to make it work? im a newb at lunix..
[03:48] <Panzerboy> djtansey: cool, so i will just remove the us from the deb source
[03:48] <djtansey> Panzer: so yo ucan just copy that file into your apt/archives dir and redo whatever installtion you were doing
[03:48] <Panzerboy> :)
[03:48] <djtansey> Panzer: and do apt-get update
[03:48] <Panzerboy> ok
[03:48] <Panzerboy> yes
[03:48] <Panzerboy> thanks a lot!
[03:48] <djtansey> Panzer: np. let me know if it works. i'll be on for a bit
[03:49] <Gourami> Hieronymus, why not, then he can see if its wine or starcraft thats the problem
[03:49] <sunrex> i dont get this...starcraft installs fine..i try to play..bam it wont let me play.
[03:49] <djtansey> Panzer: and if you're new to linux, welcome. it seems you know your way around decently though.
[03:49] <sunrex> lol
[03:49] <Gourami> sunrex have you checked to see if theres anything on winehq ?
[03:49] <djtansey> Panzer: i've been using it exclusively since 1997. am very happy with ubuntu. used debian since 1999.
[03:49] <sunrex> ?
[03:49] <sunrex> how
[03:49] <sunrex> sudo wine?
[03:50] <Gourami> winehq.com or .org or google for winehq its their web site
[03:50] <Panzerboy> djtansey: thanks, i'm not quite new to linux, i've been using it since 2000 or so :)
[03:50] <Panzerboy> djtansey: but with interruptions :)
[03:51] <Panzerboy> djtansey: and not debian, only once and for a couple of weeks or so :)
[03:51] <djtansey> Panzer: well, i thope those interruptions will become more and more infrequent.
[03:51] <SDFH_Linux> guys is there a way to make windows media player streams work
[03:51] <silas> hi all.
[03:51] <James> SDFH_Linux: I'd like to know too!
[03:51] <Panzerboy> djtansey: they will, thanks to ubuntu :)
[03:51] <djtansey> Panzer: well, i fell in love with debian for the philosophy and the package managment and the community. fortunatelly, ubuntu has all of them. though i still try to help debian when i can (and use it on my server)
[03:51] <silas> hey, what is the ubuntu iinitialization script?
[03:51] <adwait> ppl.....any idea why play.games.com doesnt work on ubuntu?
[03:51] <zeppe> hi you all
[03:52] <Panzerboy> djtansey: it worked from the ro.archive
[03:52] <zeppe> i'm not able to burn cds with any gui
[03:52] <djtansey> Panzerboy: yay for romania
[03:52] <Panzerboy> djtansey: but, strangely, it was slower than us.archive :P
[03:52] <SDFH_Linux> yes windows media players streams would be nice to work anyone know how
[03:52] <silas> hey, what is the ubuntu iinitialization script?
[03:52] <djtansey> Panzer: hah.
[03:52] <silas> rc.d?
[03:52] <Panzerboy> djtansey: :)
[03:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> SDFH_Linux: try mplayer
[03:52] <zeppe> nautilus reports any cd not to be empty -- I tried with many ones
[03:52] <Panzerboy> djtansey: where are you from ?
[03:52] <sunrex> ok i said wine control...
[03:53] <zeppe> gnomebaker too
[03:53] <djtansey> Panzer: i travel around the world a lot so i'm always changing my mirrors. though, if i'm going to be traveling a lot and don't want to think about it, i just use regular archive.ubuntu.com
[03:53] <pmai> zeppe reboot?
[03:53] <SDFH_Linux> k
[03:53] <sunrex> exited with failure status of 1..
[03:53] <djtansey> Panzerboy: born in america, though i've only lived there for 7 years
[03:53] <Panzerboy> djtansey: ok :)
[03:53] <Panzerboy> djtansey: and now you're in europe?
[03:53] <djtansey> Panzerboy: you're romanian? you have good english.
[03:54] <djtansey> Panzer: in israel presently. at least for another month.
[03:54] <onkarshinde> is there any chance that SeaMonkey will be added to some repository of Ubuntu?
[03:54] <Panzerboy> djtansey: yeah, well, i've studied english since i was 8 :)
[03:54] <Panzerboy> djtansey: cool. i've been in israel
[03:54] <djtansey> Panzer: good. what else do you speak?
[03:54] <zeppe> in eroaster as i press "burn" absolutly NOTHING happens...
[03:54] <SDFH_Linux> what is seamonkey
[03:54] <djtansey> Panzer: it's an interesting place
[03:54] <zeppe> what could be the cause?
[03:54] <Panzerboy> djtansey: been there for 3 months
[03:54] <Panzerboy> djtansey: yeah, quite dangerous though
[03:55] <djtansey> Panzerboy: about the same as me. i've been here a couple times for a few weeks each
[03:55] <djtansey> Panzer: fortunately, this summer has been calm.
[03:55] <Panzerboy> djtansey: i speak romanian (of course :P) and bit of french and german
[03:55] <Panzerboy> djtansey: yeah
[03:55] <zeppe> anybody as an idea?
[03:55] <djtansey> Panzer: no chinese or russian? those are my other languages. and a tiny bit of turkmen.
[03:55] <kbrooks> heh
[03:55] <Panzerboy> djtansey: my wife is german so i'll try to learn the language
[03:55] <onkarshinde> SDFH_Linux: It is the new rebranded Mozilla Suite, now being developed by community
[03:55] <Panzerboy> djtansey: nope
[03:55] <blackout> anyone know how to stop a laptop from hibernating?
[03:55] <djtansey> Panzer: cool. what is your profession?
[03:55] <kbrooks> kreator?
[03:55] <SDFH_Linux> o
[03:55] <Panzerboy> djtansey: i've tried to learn japanese at one point :)
[03:55] <kbrooks> lol
[03:56] <blackout> ubuntu doesn't allow it to be woken up (at least, not in any way i can determine)
[03:56] <Panzerboy> djtansey: programmer :)
[03:56] <Panzerboy> djtansey: yours?
[03:56] <zeppe> anyone can help me to have burner find empty cds?!?
[03:56] <djtansey> blackout: do you have any command line experience? you can look at /etc/default/acpi-support and turn off hibernate.
[03:56] <djtansey> Panzer: international development
[03:57] <zeppe> no ideas?!?!
[03:57] <Panzerboy> djtansey: what does that mean ? :)
[03:57] <blackout> djtansey, yes, extensive.  I'll turn it off from there.
[03:57] <sunrex> Wine does not detect my CD drive or CD
[03:57] <sunrex> is there a way to fix this?
[03:57] <Panzerboy> zeppe: what do you mean by that?
[03:57] <djtansey> Panzerboy: small business development in developing areas. educational development. things like htat.
[03:57] <sunrex> i mean i cant play any games...it doesnt detect it
[03:58] <djtansey> blackout: and remember do sudo /etc/init.d/acpid restart
[03:58] <Panzerboy> djtansey: cool, you should come to romania :-)
[03:58] <sunrex> wine "c:\program files\starcraft\starcraft.exe"
[03:58] <sunrex>  does not detect CD ROM
[03:58] <Panzerboy> djtansey: there are lots of things like that to be done here
[03:58] <zeppe> Panzer, both cd burner and cd reader are correctly found and mounted
[03:58] <zeppe> but if I insert an empty cd
[03:58] <zeppe> any empty cd
[03:59] <zeppe> both gnomebaker and nautilus tell me the cd is not empty
[03:59] <Scroopy> quick query, whats the Winamp equivalent for Ubuntu?
[03:59] <sunrex> i seriously dont get this..why doesnt it detect a CD..
[03:59] <djtansey> Panzerboy: maybe i will sometime. i don't have a lot of background in europe. my experience is mostly in central and east asia. i'd like to get to south asia and africa. though a lot of europe needs (and gets) int'l devel work
[03:59] <sunrex> it doesnt detect it when i want to play the game...just when im installing
[03:59] <Panzerboy> djtansey: i see
[03:59] <zeppe> while eroaster do nothing as i press 'burn'
[03:59] <djtansey> Panzer: you could become a micro-financer if you wanted to help
[03:59] <Panzerboy> djtansey: it's interesting, i'd like to find out more
[03:59] <mojo> excuse me every1
[03:59] <zeppe> Scroopy, it is XMMS
[03:59] <djtansey> Panzer: have any background in business management or know anyone who does?
[04:00] <BurgerMann> How do I kill a process that just one die?
[04:00] <mojo> can some1 give me where to find instruction how to install ATI driver?
[04:00] <Scroopy> thanks zeppe