[12:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86395 in Ubuntu "Shutdown issues with battery plug on (with a laptop)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86395
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86393 in bzr (main) "bzr+ssh:// no progress bar" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86393
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86396 in metacity (main) "[apport]  metacity crashed with SIGSEGV"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86396
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86397 in evolution (main) "[apport]  evolution-alarm-notify crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86397
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86398 in vmware-player (multiverse) "vmware-config-network.pl wont allow me to bridge a differant network card" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86398
[12:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86399 in gnome-cups-manager (main) "[apport]  gnome-cups-manager crashed with SIGSEGV in IA__g_signal_emit_valist()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86399
[12:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86400 in firefox (main) "firefox's spellchecker lacks localization " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86400
[12:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86401 in firefox (main) "firefox chrashed on videofragment" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86401
[12:59] <crimsun> debian 411580
[12:59] <Ubugtu> Debian bug 411580 in cups-pdf "cups-pdf: 2.4.2-2 broke functionality" [Grave,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/411580
[01:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86403 in banshee (universe) "[apport]  banshee crashed with SIGSEGV in g_datalist_clear()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86403
[01:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86404 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Sound no longer working (AC97) in upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86404
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86405 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86405
[02:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86406 in evolution (main) "[apport]  evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_iterate()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86406
[02:07] <zul> whoever is triaging the kernel bugs with report-bug can you please stop
[02:07] <ajmitch> I believe it's caravena__, no?
[02:08] <zul> caravena__: ping
[02:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86407 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86407
[02:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86408 in ubuntu-meta (main) "HP Paviliion DV9210US won't boot CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86408
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86409 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86409
[03:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86411 in Ubuntu "beryl crashed when browsing through the applications effects" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86411
[03:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86410 in gaim (main) "Crash after conversation with a broken MSN Client" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86410
[03:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86412 in evolution (main) "[apport]  evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_iterate()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86412
[03:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86414 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86414
[04:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86415 in thin-client-manager (main) "[apport]  student-control-panel crashed with DBusException in __new__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86415
[05:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86416 in xscreensaver (main) "xscreensaver v 4.23 has a bug, where the screensaver icon is not at >System >Prefrences >(screensaver)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86416
[05:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86417 in Ubuntu "gnome-menu applets crash, memory leaks 100% " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86417
[05:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86418 in Ubuntu "gnome-menu applets crash, memory leaks 100% " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86418
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86419 in Ubuntu "(Feisty) NetworkManager does not recognise static links" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86419
[05:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86322 in python-gammu (universe) "wammu does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86322
[05:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75895 in trac "please backport trac 0.10.2 from feisty to dapper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/75895
[05:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86421 in gnome-system-tools (main) "[apport]  network-admin crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_accel_group_disconnect()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86421
[05:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86422 in vim-latexsuite (universe) "vim-latex suite is not configurable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86422
[06:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86423 in Ubuntu "Feisty Fawn Herd 4 won't complete desktop install on Dell E1405" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86423
[06:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86424 in synaptic (main) "Request for install CD for NFS setup failed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86424
[06:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86425 in ssmtp (universe) "smtp authentication fail if the password contains a ":"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86425
[07:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86426 in evolution (main) "Printing fails to correctly render on page (print preview, too)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86426
[07:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86427 in ubiquity (main) "Ubuntu installation crashed at ca. 80-82%" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86427
[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86428 in ubiquity (main) "Ubuntu Edgy Eft installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86428
[08:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86429 in Ubuntu "Audio Tracks on CD play Digital Data Sound " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86429
[08:05] <dholbach> good morning
[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86430 in firefox (main) "Mozilla Firefox crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86430
[08:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86431 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "nautilus-cd-burner wrongly reports burn failure" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86431
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86432 in ubiquity (main) "ubiquity crashes when / not formatted, feisty herd 4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86432
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86433 in apt (main) "[apport]  apt-cache crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86433
[08:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86434 in azureus (universe) "Azureus won't start in Feisty Herd 4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86434
[08:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86435 in yelp (main) "man index does not display man pages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86435
[09:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86436 in metacity (main) "[apport]  metacity crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86436
[09:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86438 in Ubuntu "[apport]  beryl-settings crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86438
[09:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86437 in Ubuntu "Intel Gigabit network adapter e1000 fails to connect at gigabit speed, is "geared down" to only 100 Mbps" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86437
[09:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86439 in python-central (main) "python2.5-minimal Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86439
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86440 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "Current nvidia driver in feisty restricts screen resolution" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86440
[09:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86441 in Ubuntu "Boot error 2.6.17-11-386 : [171799607.172000]  BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86441
[09:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86443 in ubiquity (main) "crashed while trying to remove install scripts." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86443
[09:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86444 in gnome-power-manager (main) "g-p-m panel icon doesn't scale correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86444
[09:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86445 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "resize2fs + lvm + software raid kernel BUG on amdt64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86445
[09:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86446 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86446
[09:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86447 in totem (main) "[apport]  totem crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86447
[10:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86448 in totem (main) "Totem crashes when attempting to play some RTSP streams from a Darwin Streaming Server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86448
[10:15] <dholbach> bdmurray, sfllaw: I handed over the bugsquad to you
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86449 in gaim (main) "[apport]  gaim crashed with SIGSEGV in malloc()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86449
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86450 in gnome-app-install (main) "add/remove was crashing, maybe because the update manager was running and downloading something" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86450
[10:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86452 in gnome-media (main) "[apport]  gnome-volume-control crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86452
[10:46] <cowbud> holy crap the ubuntu hardware database had 309k submissions today..
[10:46] <cowbud> that doesn't seem right considering there are only 515k total..
[10:48] <seb128> cowbud: where did you get that number? the website? it's probably bugged
[10:49] <cowbud> seb128: yah when I ran hwdb-gui again and clicked on the link to look at mine..
[10:57] <cowbud> What is the deal with assigning tickets to yourself? When I worked in a corporate environment that had somewhat of a "trouble" ticket system like launchpad the procedure was to assign tickets to yourself if you were going to handle the need mores info portion then once that was taken care of you would assign it where it needs to go
[10:57] <cowbud> this seems like the way to go to get the bug count down especially for bugs that aren't being updated by people
[10:57] <cowbud> any thoughts on that?
[11:00] <cowbud> seb128: ? :) if you get a chance to look at that..
[11:01] <cjwatson> cowbud: that's the prescribed procedure, except that you default to leaving it unassigned when you're done with it
[11:01] <cjwatson> cowbud: since this is a more loosely-knit environment
[11:02] <cowbud> cjwatson: ahh so I can "own" a bug till the information is done then just set it back to unassigned and confirmed?
[11:02] <seb128> cowbud: "the deal with assigning tickets to yourself"?
[11:02] <seb128> cowbud: right
[11:02] <cowbud> ok
[11:02] <seb128> that's the recommended procedure
[11:02] <seb128> assign the bug to yourself when you ask questions or start working on it
[11:02] <seb128> and unassign when you are done
[11:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86454 in kubuntu-meta (main) "Opening remote realmedia resets PCM volume to high" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86454
[11:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86455 in gaim (main) "[apport]  gaim crashed with SIGSEGV in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86455
[11:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86453 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed while opening a new tab." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86453
[11:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86456 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86456
[11:22] <cowbud> so if package versions change from what users are reporting and the bug cannot be reproduced and the user isn't answering can we just start rejecting those?
[11:22] <cowbud> like after a week of no response?
[11:33] <seb128> cowbud: we wait rather a month than a week usually
[11:33] <cowbud> seb128: alright
[11:33] <seb128> cowbud: feel free to close it if you think it has been fixed though
[11:34] <seb128> and add a comment like "feel free to reopen if you still get the bug with the new version"
[11:34] <cowbud> sounds good
[11:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86457 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "(maemo-on-ubuntu) Scratchbox does not work with latest Feisty kernel image" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86457
[11:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86458 in Ubuntu "beryl-core crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86458
[11:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86459 in usplash (main) "[apport]  usplash crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86459
[11:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86460 in banshee (universe) "UVF Exception/sync request: banshee 0.11.7+dfsg-1 from debian/experimental (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86460
[12:08] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86465 in Ubuntu "Feisty fails to install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86465
[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86464 in mondo (universe) "please package mondo for x86_64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86464
[12:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86466 in bitlbee (universe) "[Merge]   bitlbee 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86466
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86468 in Ubuntu "asdf" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86468
[12:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86467 in postfix-policyd-spf-perl (universe) "UVF Exception Request for postfix-policyd-spf-perl 2.002" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86467
[12:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86469 in gaim (main) "gaim crashed on ubuntu 6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86469
[12:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86470 in Ubuntu "Problem with shutdown button" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86470
[12:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86471 in gnome-app-install (main) "Search bar has no clear button" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86471
[12:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86472 in gnome-app-install (main) "type-find in categories is messed up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86472
[01:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86473 in alacarte (main) "Properties button for alacarte" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86473
[01:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86474 in firefox (main) "Firefox reports a crash after rebooting the computer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86474
[01:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86478 in feisty-gdm-themes (main) "Human theme not listed on gdmsetup" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86478
[01:23] <fernando> moin all
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86479 in qgo (universe) "crash when more than one game terminates at once" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86479
[01:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86480 in dcraw (main) "UVF for 8.54" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86480
[01:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86481 in gdebi (main) "sudo gdebi fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86481
[02:07] <cypher1> what does RFE stands for ? Is it "Request For Enhancement" ?
[02:10] <cjwatson> yes, though it's not an abbreviation we use
[02:10] <cjwatson> (some bug reporters use it due to experience from other projects)
[02:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86483 in xchat-gnome (main) "ships no 16x16 & 22x22 icons" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86483
[02:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86482 in gnome-pilot (main) "gpilot-applet crashed on normal shutdown of the PC.  Report was generated on the next power up..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86482
[02:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86484 in gnome-panel (main) "Feisty gnome power management crashes while downloading updates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86484
[02:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86488 in compiz (universe) "[apport]  compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in free()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86488
[02:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86485 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86485
[02:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86486 in totem (main) "[apport]  totem crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86486
[02:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86487 in evolution (main) "Restore evolution data with backup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86487
[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86489 in gaim (main) "[apport]  gaim crashed with SIGSEGV in gst_audio_clock_new()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86489
[02:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86493 in Ubuntu "[Feisty]  wrong keyboard layout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86493
[03:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86494 in hardinfo (universe) "Hardinfo, kernel info" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86494
[03:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86495 in banshee (universe) "Crash while listening" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86495
[03:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86496 in dvdrip (multiverse) "[UVF]  dvd::rip new upstream release" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86496
[03:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86499 in Ubuntu "ndiswrapper fails to connect in Edgy Eft and Feisty Fawn Herd 4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86499
[03:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86500 in turbogears (universe) "trying to run tg-admin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86500
[03:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86491 in Ubuntu "I/O Error reading boot cd (dup-of: 86492)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86491
[03:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86502 in lapack3 (main) "Error while using lapack3-dev - Not detected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86502
[03:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86492 in Ubuntu "I/O Error reading boot cd" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86492
[03:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86503 in Ubuntu "Can't open the sucsessfully installed "Labyrinth Mind-mapping"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86503
[04:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86504 in Ubuntu "Shutdown, Hibernate, and Suspend Not Working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86504
[04:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86505 in acroread (multiverse) "Application Reports 7.0.8 in Help About instead of 7.0.9" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86505
[04:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86506 in Ubuntu "Graphic controller displays strange colors on Precision 380 when rebooting from Feisty herd 4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86506
[04:04] <bddebian> Boo
[04:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86507 in nautilus (main) "crash while watching a divx by VLC on a lan with samba" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86507
[04:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86508 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "mouse dies, freezes and hangs after a few hours" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86508
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86512 in deskbar-applet (main) "deskbar don't get the focus with alt+F3 keys" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86512
[04:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86510 in partman-auto (main) "Cannot preseed partman-auto/select_disk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86510
[04:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86511 in usplash (main) "[apport]  usplash crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86511
[04:42] <Kagou> can someone confirm Bug #86478 ?! I'v this bug on 2 differents PC but other guys not
[04:42] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86478 in feisty-gdm-themes "Human theme not listed on gdmsetup" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86478
[04:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86509 in Ubuntu "Can't have a partition outside the disk when preseeding Feisty herd 4 on Asustek Z62J" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86509
[04:43] <dholbach> Kagou: interesting, I have it too
[04:44] <Kagou> i quickly tried to launch gdmsetup from a term but there is no output/warning or debug mode
[04:45] <Kagou> so i think of a bad formting in human.xml
[04:45] <dholbach> assigned it to kwwii
[04:47] <pochu> Kagou: same here
[04:48] <dholbach> Ken will fix it for sure
[04:48] <dholbach> Kagou: the .desktop file is missing
[04:48] <Kagou> indeed !
[04:48] <dholbach> i updated the bug
[04:52] <pochu> dholbach: (about tags): that would be a bitesize and a packaging tag?
[04:53] <dholbach> not a packaging bug
[04:53] <dholbach> it's something that Ken probably forgot to commit
[04:53] <dholbach> he'll work on that one
[04:53] <pochu> dholbach: it's just to learn :) a packaging then what can be, a FTBFS?
[04:53] <dholbach> no... it's something like "package description has a typo"
[04:54] <dholbach> or "package a conflicts with package b"
[04:54] <dholbach> stuff like that
[04:54] <pochu> dholbach: oh, ok :)
[04:54] <dholbach> or "documentation is not compressed"
[04:54] <dholbach> etc
[04:54] <pochu> that's also bitesize, right?
[04:54] <dholbach> sometimes yes
[04:54] <pochu> hehe
[04:54] <pochu> ok :)
[05:01] <cburg> I would imagine bitesize are more reserved for hug days and referring them to people looking to join bugsquad, however maybe I am misunderstanding.
[05:02] <cburg> I mean obviously you wouldn't save a bug for a hug day, but if it was filed that day.
[05:02] <dholbach> bitesize are usually low importance bugs which are nice to get either triaged and debugged properly or fixed
[05:03] <dholbach> things that require some bits of reading/checking, etc
[05:06] <cburg> Good to know, thanks for the clarification.
[05:08] <dholbach> anytime :)
[05:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86513 in mplayer (multiverse) "[Feisty]  mplayer fails to play mp3 audio correctly with mp3lib" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86513
[05:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86514 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel crashes when PC is idle" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86514
[05:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86515 in ndesk-dbus (universe) "UVF exception: ndesk-dbus 0.4.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86515
[05:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86516 in metamail (universe) "metamail segfaults" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86516
[06:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86517 in gimp-dcraw (universe) "UVF exception : gimp-dcraw 1.27 -> 1.29" [Wishlist,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86517
[06:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86518 in kmldonkey (universe) "kmldonkey unneeded dependencies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86518
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86519 in Ubuntu "Kubuntu: "Reloading Connection Settings" dialog pops up *behind* the System Settings window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86519
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86520 in Ubuntu "webcam doesn't work anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86520
[06:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86524 in gnome-terminal (main) "Kismet crashes g-term" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86524
[06:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86522 in Ubuntu "Please add a global-viper-mode command to viper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86522
[06:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86521 in Ubuntu "Checkboxes in Startup Programs don't update right" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86521
[06:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86523 in firefox (main) "firefox crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86523
[06:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86525 in unison (universe) "[Merge]  unison 2.13.16-6ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86525
[06:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86526 in graphviz (main) "Bad URIs for PDFs in documentation index" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86526
[06:39] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86529 in python-defaults (main) "Python crashed on Ardour load" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86529
[06:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86527 in alacarte (main) "[apport]  alacarte crashed with ImportError in <module>()." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86527
[06:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86528 in libpam-heimdal (universe) ""Cannot determine realm for host" when system doesn't have full hostname" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86528
[06:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86530 in gnome-app-install (main) "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with ZeroDivisionError in popcon_view_func()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86530
[06:44] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86531 in zapping (universe) "[apport]  zapping crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_widget_set_sensitive()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86531
[06:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86532 in gnome-osd (universe) "[apport]  gnome-osd-server crashed with DBusException in __new__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86532
[06:53] <bdmurray> caravena_: when marking bugs as "Needs Info" please assign them to yourself
[06:53] <caravena_> bdmurray: Ok.
[06:53] <bdmurray> caravena_: Thanks.
[06:54] <caravena_> bdmurray: Thanks for you.
[06:54] <cypher1> dholbach, hi
[06:54] <dholbach> hey cypher1
[06:55] <cypher1> dholbach, hows the day going
[06:55] <dholbach> quite ok... busy busy :)
[06:55] <dholbach> how are you?
[06:55] <cypher1> dholbach, :) yes almost same here
[06:56] <cypher1> dholbach, i am fine
[06:56] <cypher1> dholbach, i am almost done with a basic fix for bug 79133
[06:56] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 79133 in bughelper "RFE: Option to count comments" [Wishlist,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/79133
[06:56] <dholbach> excellent
[06:57] <cypher1> dholbach, i saw an enclosure saying "--count=>5" and "--count=<5" , does those has to be implemented ?
[06:57] <dholbach> no idea - you could ask on the bug report
[06:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86533 in goocanvas (universe) "UVF exception: 0.4 to 0.6" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86533
[06:58] <cypher1> dholbach, ok.. but can i check in the code now to my branch so that you can merge with the main branch ? or do i have to wait till it gets clarified ?
[06:59] <dholbach> cypher1: just announce that you worked on it and that your changes are up for review in your branch
[06:59] <dholbach> cypher1: in the bug report
[06:59] <cypher1> dholbach, ok! thank you
[06:59] <dholbach> thank YOU
[07:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86535 in mozilla (universe) "Feisty Hurd 4 does not recognize my computer type" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86535
[07:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86536 in debootstrap (main) "Debootstrap does not resolve awk dependencies correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86536
[07:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86537 in amaya (universe) "Amaya 9.53 does not work on Ubuntu Feisty Hurd4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86537
[07:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86538 in amaya (universe) "Amaya 9.53 does not work on Ubuntu Feisty Hurd4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86538
[07:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86539 in update-manager (main) "hilighted packages look unselected when they aren't" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86539
[07:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86540 in clamav (universe) "Please sync clamav (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86540
[07:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86541 in evince (main) "can't search for strings containing dash in evince" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86541
[07:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86542 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in wnck_window_get_actions()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86542
[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86544 in clamav (universe) "UVF exception: security fixes, rc to final" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86544
[08:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86545 in gnome-power-manager (main) "upgrading hal causes g-p-m to lose its battery information (fixable with restart)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86545
[08:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86546 in amarok (main) "amarok crashes when scanning .ra files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86546
[08:20] <cypher1> dholbach, thanks for your mail
[08:20] <dholbach> anytime
[08:20] <cypher1> dholbach, i have pushed fix for bug 79133
[08:21] <dholbach> excellent
[08:21] <cypher1> goodnight.. see you tomorow
[08:21] <dholbach> say so in the bug report
[08:21] <dholbach> yeha, I'm leaving too
[08:21] <cypher1> dholbach, done that
[08:21] <dholbach> rock on
[08:21] <cypher1> U2 :)
[08:29] <caravena__> "Los Tres" rock chilean is good.
[08:30] <caravena__> : -)
[08:44] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86550 in Ubuntu "Video card no longer supported by Ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86550
[08:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86551 in totem (main) "[totem-gstreamer]  AV synchronization problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86551
[09:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86552 in python-sqlite (main) "[apport]  package python-sqlite failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86552
[09:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86558 in gnome-applets (main) "[apport]  invest-applet crashed with ZeroDivisionError in on_quotes_update()"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86558
[09:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86553 in Ubuntu "Problems with kaffeine-xine" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86553
[09:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86554 in system-config-printer (main) "[apport]  system-config-printer.py crashed with RuntimeError in getPPD()"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86554
[09:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86555 in rss-glx (main) "[apport]  cyclone crashed with SIGSEGV"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86555
[09:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86556 in system-config-printer (main) "[apport]  system-config-printer.py crashed with RuntimeError in getPPD()"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86556
[09:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86557 in Ubuntu "[apport]  gnome-control-center crashed with SIGSEGV in g_markup_escape_text()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86557
[09:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86559 in firefox (main) "firefox crashes intermittently" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86559
[09:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86560 in beryl-manager (universe) "Beryl-manager kills interaction with kicker (kde)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86560
[09:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86561 in rhythmbox (main) "When launching whilst working offline, All rss feeds report error." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86561
[09:39] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86562 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall() on close" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86562
[09:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86563 in seahorse (universe) "Signing using Agent broken in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86563
[09:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86564 in evolution (main) "[apport]  evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in e_table_model_row_count()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86564
[09:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86566 in gnome-utils (main) "[apport]  gnome-system-log crashed with SIGSEGV in string_get_date_string()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86566
[10:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86565 in Ubuntu "Installer (partitioner) mis-detects OpenBSD partition as ext3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86565
[10:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86567 in f-spot (main) "[apport]  f-spot crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86567
[10:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86568 in Ubuntu "Gnome-Screensaver update causing crashes?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86568
[10:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86569 in Ubuntu "freezing if reconnecting using [enter]  instead of clicking" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86569
[10:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86570 in Ubuntu "Wishlist: Autodesk Inventor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86570
[10:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86571 in sun-java6 (multiverse) "[Feisty]  java crashes while running azureus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86571
[10:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86572 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with DBusException in __call__()"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86572
[10:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86573 in flumotion (universe) "[apport]  flumotion-manager crashed with AttributeError in <module>()Doesnt start at boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86573
[10:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86574 in software-properties (main) "[apport]  software-properties-gtk crashed with NameError in add_source()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86574
[10:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86575 in amaya (universe) "amaya crashes in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86575
[10:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86576 in mono (main) "[apport]  mono crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86576
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86577 in initramfs-tools (main) "out-of-the-box initrd images do not include 32bit pccard support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86577
[10:48] <did447> hi, anyone with 30 seconds free time, an X86 box, a cdrom and using the old ide driver?
[10:49] <did447> I'm looking for the output of strace eject , (3, CDROMEJECT) result.
[10:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86578 in Ubuntu "Stall loading module 'via82cxxx' when installing Feisty herd 4 on GA-965G-DS3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86578
[11:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86579 in hk-classes (universe) "python support missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86579
[11:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86580 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86580
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86581 in glom (universe) "Glom has issues if DB user is missing access rights" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86581
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86582 in glom (universe) "Glom suggests postgresql-8.2, but doesn't use the right port." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86582
[11:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86583 in Ubuntu "user must run fsck by hand on FS corruption detected at boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86583
[11:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86584 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in g_hash_table_lookup()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86584
[11:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86585 in ktorrent (main) "ktorrent doesn't reset tray icon after switching off tray speed bar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86585
[11:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86586 in Ubuntu "disk device does not exist when booting Feisty herd 4 on GA-965GM-S2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86586
[11:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86587 in imagemagick (main) "[apport]  identify crashed with SIGSEGV in realloc()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86587
[11:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86588 in Ubuntu "missing items in control center as root" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86588
[11:48] <yuriy> bug 44721
[11:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 44721 in kde-systemsettings "Window decorations appear twice on list." [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/44721
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86589 in gdm (main) "gdmXnest doesn't run gdm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86589
[11:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86590 in ltsp (main) "edubuntu ltsp-build-clinent dies on a symlink for /dev/fd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86590
[12:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86592 in Ubuntu "Live CD Installer causes screen to turn off when X starts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86592


[01:08] <cannonball> SpamapS: I don't know if you saw the followup email, but I was able to get the Quantal version of cups 1.6.1 to build on precise (is that right? 12.04)
[01:09] <cannonball> I had to comment on one line of the apparmor profile for the cupsd binary, but then it started up just fine using my old cupsd.conf.  Now the ios 6 devices see the printer instantly.
[01:09] <cannonball> I also think that your method looks a LOT simpler than the way that I did it, but I now have a _slightly_ better understanding of what is going on during deb builds.
[01:10] <cannonball> Just slightly though...there's still a lot going on in the background (tons and tons of dh* commands rolling by) that I don't yet grok. :-)
[01:10] <cannonball> Thanks for the feedback, see you at a LUG or maybe SCALE.
[03:11] <micahg> doko_: new cairo-5c in Debian still fails on quantal
[03:22] <micahg> doko_: sounds like you already know this :), nevermind
[08:34] <cjwatson> doko_: Thanks for sorting out java3d.
[09:24] <Mirv> something wrong with the universe repo? bug #1066445
[12:33] <jibel> Mirv, confirmed on a fresh install on amd64
[12:33] <jibel> thanks
[12:54] <doko> Laney, there are some haskell ftbfs on arm, which don't look like the usual timeouts, e.g. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/119722073/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-armhf.haskell-chell_0.3-1build1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[14:06] <PN1> hi, i've uploaded a new media player to Ubuntu Software Center 2 day ago but my status is pending review. anyone knows why is it taking so long to show?
[14:30] <SpamapS> PN1: there are a ton of other apps in front of yours waitin for review is probably the cas.e
[15:17] <cjwatson> doko: already known, reported upstream (http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/7316), and not likely to be fixed for 12.10.  I already removed all the out-of-date binaries affected by this.
[15:29] <lamont> apt-get -qq update
[15:29] <lamont> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[15:29] <lamont> that does not happy make
[15:52] <lamont> having quantal/universe in the sources.list at the same time as having quantal/main seems to cause that
[15:53] <penguin42> lamont: Seems fine here
[15:53] <lamont> penguin42: it's quite possibly mirror issues
[15:54] <lamont> as in my mirror
[15:54] <penguin42> lamont: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1279419/ is my sources.list
[15:55] <lamont> that it's working well elsewhere tells me it's likely just me and that I'm special. :(
[15:55] <lamont> no worries.
[15:55]  * lamont digs deeper
[15:57] <jibel> lamont, bug 1066445
[15:57] <lamont> fact
[15:58] <lamont> 0x00007ffff7b4dd20 in pkgCacheGenerator::ListParser::NewProvides(pkgCache::VerIterator&, std::string const&, std::string const&, std::string const&) () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libapt-pkg.so.4.12
[15:59] <jibel> it seems to be triggered by the record for grub-ieee1275 in universe
[16:02] <lamont> though interestingly, apt-get update seems happy if universe is there and main is excluded
[17:09] <skaet> lamont,  what were you starting from?   we're trying to figure out the pattern.
[17:33] <Laney> doko: no, that is the usual
[17:47] <lamont> skaet: the last reboot-requiring (desktop) upgrade on the machine was probably yesterday morning (-0700)
[17:49] <lamont> since the reboot was 18 hours ago
[17:50] <lamont> skaet: when I commented out universe and did the dist-upgrade, it installed debian-installer, nothing more
[17:52]  * lamont reboots his irc box, brb
[19:36] <jamin> got caught by a pretty nasty regression when I upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1066324
[19:40] <jamin> for some reason, 12.10's core.img generation results in larger files than 12.04's
[19:40] <jtaylor> had that too :/
[19:41] <jtaylor> or still have it, but I resized my boot sector to fix it
[19:41] <jamin> so, combinations that worked perfectly under 12.04 no longer work under 12.10 and sadly you don't find out (or at least I didn't) until you try to reboot
[19:41] <jtaylor> when did you setup the partitioning of your machine?
[19:41] <jtaylor> if you pay attention during upgrade you do find out
[19:41] <jamin> it's changed over time
[19:41] <jamin> jtaylor, had no warning during the upgrade...
[19:42] <jtaylor> there should be a message that core.img is to large
[19:42] <jtaylor> but its easy to overlook
[19:42] <jamin> if there was, I overlooked it... should be pretty big blocker
[19:42] <jtaylor> it kind of sucks that you land in a rescue prompt then instead of grub being left unchanged
[19:43] <jamin> as for the partitioning, I migrated the system into purely LVM during its 12.04 lifetime... but had no issues with grub after
[19:43] <jamin> yes... if grub had been unchanged it would still have worked... and rescue prompt is rather useless at this point
[19:44] <jamin> had to move the system to a GPT partition table to resolve it
[19:44] <jtaylor> just sizing it to a sane size is enough
[19:44] <jtaylor> unfortunately that takes ages
[19:44] <jamin> even though there was a full 1M at the start of the drive before the first partition
[19:45] <jtaylor> ok that is different than what I had
[19:45] <jtaylor> sizing it to 1M fixed it for me
[19:46] <jamin> it's solved for me now, but I can't image that I'm the only person that has everything residing inside LVM with an MSDOS style partition table
[19:46] <jtaylor> cjwatson: you may want to look into that again ^
[19:47] <jtaylor> I hit it at the time bug 1051154 was opened, after resizing and the bug being closed I didn't bother about it anymore
[19:47] <jamin> would love to know why the core.img has increased in size from 12.04 though...
[19:47] <jtaylor> but my core.img is still larger than 32k
[19:48] <jamin> jtaylor, yea, I read that report... seemed like an off by 1 bug based on the feedback... but that doesn't seem to be what I'm running into
[19:48] <jamin> jtaylor, what's the exact size of yours now?
[19:48] <jtaylor> 33294
[19:49] <jamin> odd, even larger than mine... so if your's fit, mine should have
[19:49] <jtaylor> I now have 2024 sectors at the start
[19:49] <jtaylor> it where 64 before
[19:50] <jamin> maybe there wasn't a full 1M free at the start before I moved to GPT...
[19:50] <jtaylor> what does sudo fdisk -l /dev/boot-device say for the start?
[19:50] <jamin> could have sworn there was
[19:50] <jamin> I've repartitioned the device now
[19:51] <jamin> booted to a live-cd attached an external drive and pvmoved all the volumes off the internal drive... then repartitioned as GPT and pvmoved them all back
[19:51] <jamin> though I think I saved the partition table layout as a precaution... let me see
[19:56] <jamin> jtaylor, looks like it started at 63
[19:56] <jamin> found the backup file... *sigh*
[19:57] <jtaylor> I'm going to mark it critical, my machine was not partitioned to long ago (about 1-2 years) so its probably a not to uncommon thing
[19:57] <jtaylor> and very hard to fix for inexperienced users
[19:57] <jamin> very
[20:02] <jamin> I believe that everything in lvm is one of the automatic partitioning configurations for partman isn't it? or does that one keep /boot out?
[20:06] <jtaylor> don't know
[20:07] <jtaylor> I too use lvm, probably its somehow related to it
[20:07] <jtaylor> would explain why there aren't more reports of this
[20:09] <jamin> it is related to lvm... if you rebuild core.img without the lvm module it's small enough to fit
[20:10] <jamin> and looking at the automated recipes, they all appear to have /boot outside the lvm volume
[20:46] <cjwatson> jamin,jtaylor: it'll definitely fit in 1MB.  As for the case where you only have 63 sectors at the start, no Ubuntu installer for the last few years will produce that layout by default, and I'm afraid I have approximately zero likelihood of being able to fix it by release
[20:47] <jtaylor> cjwatson: figured as much, as it only appears to affect lvm feel free t reduce the importance or set it won't fix
[20:47] <jamin> cjwatson, then it's safe to say that a number of people are going to wind up with unbootable boxes
[20:47] <cjwatson> jamin: yes
[20:47] <cjwatson> but I can't fix it
[20:47] <cjwatson> not in time anyway
[20:48] <cjwatson> we'll have to release-note it
[20:48] <jamin> even if it's not "fixed" in an automated fashion is it not possible to have it seriously error in an in your face sort of fashion?
[20:48] <cjwatson> not in time
[20:48] <cjwatson> I mean, that's the only terribly plausible way to "fix" this at all
[20:48] <cjwatson> but I have sooooooo many things to do
[20:49] <cjwatson> of course people would complain about the resulting upgrade failure too, and it's not like moving partitions around is an easy thing to do
[20:49] <jamin> how about an upfront check?
[20:49] <cjwatson> it would at best defer the upgrade failure
[20:49] <cjwatson> or defer the boot failure
[20:49] <jamin> something at the start of the upgrade process that checks for only 63 sectors on the drive?
[20:50] <cjwatson> if somebody else wants to attempt that ...
[20:50] <cjwatson> it won't be me
[20:50] <cjwatson> (and of course plenty of layouts do still work fine with 63 sectors, particularly after I fixed the off-by-one error in grub-setup)
[20:50] <jamin> any reason the core.img increased in size?
[20:50] <cjwatson> no very straightforward way to tell which in advance, without having the upgraded code
[20:50] <cjwatson> grub 1.99 -> 2.00 - various bug fixes which involved bigger code
[20:51] <jamin> guessing it's not possible to get it back down to 12.04 size
[20:51] <cjwatson> no single cause
[20:51] <cjwatson> it may be possible but requires serious work; I looked and there was no single obvious smoking gun
[20:51] <cjwatson> just general drift
[20:51] <jamin> I'd think a blanket warning for any 63 sector configuration would be better than waiting to see which can no longer boot
[20:51] <cjwatson> I don't mind if somebody else wants to do that
[20:52] <cjwatson> like I say, it's simply not physically possible for it to be me at this point, due to lack of hours
[20:52] <jamin> yea, understood... just thinking of the fallout if this hits any decent number of users
[20:52] <cjwatson> nearly every boot loader bug is critical for those it hits
[20:53] <jamin> agreed, just never seen one from an upgrade like this
[20:53] <cjwatson> yours is likely because of the combination of GPT and LVM; I'm fairly sure MBR and LVM fits
[20:54] <jamin> nope... was MBR and LVM that caused it
[20:54] <cjwatson> oh, wait, your grub-install debug output was from after you moved from GPT
[20:54] <jamin> moved to GPT to resolve it
[20:54] <cjwatson> way to file a confusing report :P
[20:54] <jamin> yes
[20:54] <jamin> sorry... couldn't file from a non-bootable system
[20:55] <cjwatson> better not to mention the grub-install debug output then - I'll delete it from the description as it's actively misleading
[20:55] <jamin> sounds like I could have stayed with MBR if I'd just moved my partitions down to start at 1MB in
[20:55] <cjwatson> Yes
[20:55] <jamin> sorry... wanted to show which modules were being used
[20:55] <cjwatson> That's the default partitioner configuration since 10.04
[20:56] <cjwatson> Now, gparted may be stupid
[20:56] <cjwatson> I mean the actual Ubuntu installer partitioner
[20:56] <jamin> gparted puts it at 1M
[20:56] <cjwatson> Confusing given jtaylor's comment, unless that was a more recent fix
[20:56] <jtaylor> I think I used gparted in default config for my setup
[20:56] <jamin> I'd replaced the drive and migrated the installation from rotation to ssd
[20:56] <cjwatson> Bear in mind that gparted may have different defaults for SSD
[20:56] <jtaylor> but maybe I also left the boot partition at stock settings
[20:57] <jtaylor> its been a while
[20:57] <cjwatson> libparted typically tries to pick up the topology from the driver
[20:57] <cjwatson> *drive
[20:57] <cjwatson> So this kind of thing basically only affects people who've done by-hand partitioning with non-default tools, or who've upgraded since before 10.04
[20:57] <jamin> think I may have used cfdisk to layout the partition on this SSD originally
[20:57] <cjwatson> Yeah, cfdisk is dark-ages stuff
[20:58] <jamin> seeing that now... =(
[20:58] <cjwatson> I don't believe it's really kept up with modern alignment requirements and such


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