[00:44] <linux_unix-10> hello
[00:46] <linux_unix-10> i'm installing xubuntu 14.04 right now and i'm wondering why the resolution is in 1024x768? i'm using a persistent live usb
[00:49] <linux_unix-10> will my resolution be forever stuck in 1024x768 post-install or will more options appear?
[00:50] <linux_unix-10> anybody?
[01:03] <linux_unix-10> i can't boot into windows 8.1 anymore after installation and the grub screen is blank for a while. how do i ifx this?
[01:03] <linux_unix-10> *fix
[01:04] <holstein> !grub
[01:04] <holstein> linux_unix-10: i would just run "sudo update-grub" and see if that "Fixes" it
[01:04] <holstein> linux_unix-10: are you on a system that has grub? did you do a normal installation?
[01:05] <linux_unix-10> yes
[01:05] <linux_unix-10> grub 2, i presume
[01:05] <holstein> linux_unix-10: no reason to presume anything.. check and confirm
[01:06] <linux_unix-10> how?
[01:06] <linux_unix-10> last line before "done" statement said "Found Windows 8 (loader) on /dev/sda1"
[01:07] <linux_unix-10> last problem is that the grub screen is blank for a few seconds before startup
[01:08] <linux_unix-10> i'll be back, i'll restart and test the system
[01:39] <etrask> hello all I just installed 14.04 LTS. Is there a way to make Firefox put the window manager buttons on the same level as the tabs? It's hideous by default
[01:39] <etrask> http://i.imgur.com/TGVLJNE.png
[01:40] <Unit193> I don't know of a way, but I know you can get the menu back...
[01:41] <etrask> sad day :(
[01:45] <xangua> etrask: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hide-caption-titlebar-plus-sma/
[01:46] <etrask> that's better, thank you xangua
[03:09] <acylus> Hello.
[03:10] <acylus> Anyone here
[03:10] <Unit193> Looks like 120 are here, or thereabouts.
[03:15] <likemindead> Ahoy!
[11:22] <z4nD4R> Q: any ideas how to solve this bug? - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpa/+bug/1289047 ?
[11:35] <PanicaComp> hey there guyz
[11:35] <PanicaComp> i need a hand
[11:35] <PanicaComp> with compiz
[11:35] <PanicaComp> can any1 help me?
[11:36] <cfhowlett> !details | PanicaComp
[11:37] <PanicaComp> ok: here is my problem, i installed compiz with plugins and settings manager and when i type compiz --replace everything freezes
[11:37] <PanicaComp> and toolbars dissappear
[11:39] <PanicaComp> i am running xubuntu 14.04 by the way
[11:40] <zakt> :( i have tried for 2 days and i cant instal linux
[11:41] <PanicaComp> why?
[11:41] <cfhowlett> !details|zakt no details = no help
[11:41] <zakt> idk... i just tried xubuntu then after making a usb
[11:41] <zakt> ok i will explain as best as i can please forgive me i am not advanced on linux
[11:42] <PanicaComp> you are not able to boot or you magicaly fail somewhere else?
[11:42] <zakt> i have a uefi
[11:42] <zakt> no i cant install
[11:42] <zakt> for example, the boot will just toggle black screen then monitor not detected then black screen again
[11:42] <zakt> it will hang and i cannot reset
[11:42] <zakt> this is with all linux vers
[11:43] <zakt> the furthest i have ever gotten was with mini.iso from ubuntu, where i got stuck at 0% detecting hardware please wait
[11:43] <skribblezatcha> zakt, have you disable secure boot and tried after doing so?
[11:44] <zakt> i did check my eufi setup, and it says secure boot is disabled
[11:44] <zakt> there is something else in the eufi called, intel rapid smart technology or something
[11:44] <zakt> its enabled
[11:44] <skribblezatcha> ok..
[11:44] <zakt> i was also fearing it could be because my graphics card is new (r9 280x) and is causing all linux installations to fail? idk
[11:46] <skribblezatcha> no its not graphics. do you see anything else in bios other than secure boot and the intel rapid smart technology that you are talking about zakt ?
[11:46] <zakt> sorry , i have tried many tutorials and i just dont know what to do thats why i am here
[11:46] <zakt> um
[11:46] <zakt> there is something about raid
[11:47] <zakt> in the sata settings
[11:47] <skribblezatcha> are you using raid zakt ?
[11:47] <zakt> my motherboard is asrock h77 pro/4 mvp
[11:47] <zakt> as far as i know, no. it is on the auto setting
[11:47] <zakt> i cant remember the name but its similar to ascii
[11:48] <skribblezatcha> do you have more than one HDD installed zakt ?
[11:48] <zakt> nope, just one, and i shrunk it so i can install linux
[11:48] <skribblezatcha> ok cool.
[11:48] <zakt> the space is just unallocated
[11:49] <skribblezatcha> i would use gparted to take that unallocated space and format it to ext4 zakt. then go ahead and try to install xubuntu again on the formatted partition. see how far you get doing it that way.
[11:50] <skribblezatcha> not using the installer to format that unallocated space, but having it formatted to ext4 before even attempting to install it.
[11:50] <zakt> ok well il try but, as soon as i boot xubuntu from usb it does some fast commands then goes black screen
[11:50] <zakt> so i dont actualyl see an installer
[11:50] <skribblezatcha> o i didnt know that.
[11:51] <skribblezatcha> so it wont even boot it. thats deep.
[11:51] <zakt> yeah, its the same for all the linux... the only one that has gotten to some sort of menu and started to get packages and set timezone , was the mini install from ubuntu
[11:51] <zakt> but it failed at "detecting disks and all other hardware" 0%
[11:52] <zakt> :(
[11:52] <skribblezatcha> right, i hear you.
[11:52] <skribblezatcha> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[11:53] <zakt> wow!
[11:53] <skribblezatcha> check out that link there zakt ..and see if that helps at all.
[11:53] <zakt>  the very second thing it said was disable that rapid shit from intel
[11:53] <skribblezatcha> lol
[11:53] <zakt> hopefully this will help! thanks skribble
[11:53] <skribblezatcha> yw zakt .
[11:53] <skribblezatcha> good luck man.
[11:54] <zakt> thanks
[11:54] <zakt> il go try it now
[11:59] <PanicaComp> so
[12:00] <PanicaComp> guyz, any idea what packages i need to install and how to configure for compiz on 14.04
[12:00] <skribblezatcha> i have no clue PanicaComp .
[12:01] <PanicaComp> ok
[12:01] <PanicaComp> :D
[12:04] <skribblezatcha> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2225993 PanicaComp .
[12:06] <PanicaComp> i got that far, when i run compiz --replace it goes haywire and window borders disappear. I just found that i need emerald for this :D
[12:08] <zakt> hey skribble not sure if your still here, but i disabled the rapid smart technology and it no longer hangs on a black screen and loses monitor power! :)
[12:09] <zakt> it did a bunch of commands and then got stuck on "Failed Command READ FPDMA QUEUED , -    ata7.00 failed command Identify packet device.  ata7.00 hard resetting link
[12:10] <PanicaComp> what have you used to create bootable usb?
[12:10] <skribblezatcha> ok, so basically it still wont allow you to boot to desktop though zakt?
[12:10] <zakt> hopefully this is a step forward from before though
[12:10] <skribblezatcha> right, i know what you mean.
[12:10] <zakt> basically yeah, but its not hanging anymore
[12:10] <zakt> it actually shows me it doing the commands and loading keyboard and such
[12:11] <skribblezatcha> then just doesnt make it to the desktop huh?
[12:11] <zakt> nope lol
[12:11] <zakt> oh btw that setting for the hd was ACHI
[12:12] <PanicaComp> zakt try to format flash drive to fat32 and create bootable media with universal usb installer
[12:12] <PanicaComp> something verry similar happened to me also
[12:13] <skribblezatcha> PanicaComp, are you using something with uefi?
[12:13] <PanicaComp> no :(
[12:13] <zakt> i think i used lilu before skribble
[12:13] <skribblezatcha> ok, thats what we are dealing with PanicaComp .
[12:13] <zakt> i will try again with universal
[12:13] <skribblezatcha> unetbootin is what i use..and it always works for me.
[12:13] <PanicaComp> i see... i read the whole thing
[12:14] <skribblezatcha> ok cool PanicaComp .
[12:14] <zakt> well i cant use unetbootin :( i bought this sandisk cruizer today 16gb
[12:14] <zakt> and it doesnt show in the list on unet
[12:14] <skribblezatcha> i have a scandisk cruizer 8gb and use unetbootin with it..and it works just fine.
[12:14] <zakt> for me when i plug it into windows it kind of detects it as a hd
[12:16] <skribblezatcha> ok, well i am ofcourse using linux..and it does show it as a drive for me.
[12:22] <zakt> well here goes nothin! :O
[12:22] <skribblezatcha> zakt :)
[13:20] <xubuntu089> what make xUbuntu better than ... for example Ubuntu in your opinion ? or is better the wrong word ?
[13:20] <cfhowlett> xubuntu089 why?
[13:20] <cfhowlett> use what works for you.
[13:22] <Yinchie> xubuntu works smoother for me :)
[13:22] <xubuntu089> by using the GUI you mean ? :)
[13:23] <Yinchie> ye, overal usage
[13:23] <Pici> I like the mouse
[13:23] <Pici> mascot
[13:23] <cfhowlett> xubuntu089 sudo apt-get install lxde               logout / choose lubuntu session / login.  test it for yourself.
[13:23] <factotum> lxde? you mean xfce?
[13:24] <Yinchie> lxde is a very lightweight window manager
[13:24] <phunyguy> xubuntu089, I am not on Xubuntu anymore, but I am on XFCE still.  I prefer the classic desktop it provides.  But everyone has a different opinion, which makes that kind of question not able to be answered.... It is up to you to choose.
[13:24] <phunyguy> lxde is not a window manager.  It is a desktop environment.
[13:24] <factotum> oh right, duuh
[13:25] <xubuntu089> you using ONLY XFCE ?
[13:25] <Yinchie> misspoken :)
[13:25] <phunyguy> xubuntu089, Gentoo.  ;)
[13:25] <Yinchie> i like xfce as well.
[13:25] <Yinchie> its one of the reasons i use xubuntu
[13:26] <xubuntu089> that make
[13:26] <xubuntu089> ups sorry
[13:29] <xubuntu089> and which distribution you'll also prefer ? next to xubuntu ?
[13:30] <phunyguy> I am not entirely sure that is what this channel is for, but I will bite.  I prefer Gentoo right now because it is a rolling distribution on stable software.
[13:30] <cfhowlett> xubuntu089 why would you care what any of us prefer.    Man up and make your choice
[13:31] <phunyguy> xubuntu089, a good portion of us here have installed everything we could get our hands on and chose for ourselves
[13:32] <cfhowlett> xubuntu089 virtualbox is your friend if you're unable to commit to just one distro
[13:34] <phunyguy> and we lost them
[13:50] <sweetleaf> I think distros are just a matter of taste. At the end of the day they do the same thing with different commands
[13:50] <sweetleaf> I might be naive but thats my perspective
[13:55] <starrats> At this point in time will take xubuntu 14.04LTS over any other distro!!
[13:56] <sweetleaf> starrats: have you found any big differences with the equivalent Mint release with Xfce?
[13:59] <starrats> haven't tried Mint for awhile, tried to install it on VBox and it went into a 'safe mode' because of a 'driver' issue.  A little black box popped up on the screen as soon as i restarted the install.
[14:17] <ARM9> my main pet peeve with ubuntu is how everything in the official repo is like a year old
[14:17] <ARM9> or more
[14:19] <Pici> Thats the cost of stability.
[15:01] <phunyguy> I wouldn't say a year old, unless you are talking about 12.04, then yeah that stuff is pretty old.  But 14.04, the stuff is maybe a few months behind.  With that said, things like security and bugfix updates are backported to that version, which adds stability over time.
[15:01] <phunyguy> 12.04 is rock solid right now./
[15:06] <SamwiseGamgee> Xubuntu says I need 512 MB of memory, are they referring to my RAM memory?
[15:07] <vrkalak> yes
[15:07] <SamwiseGamgee> I have three RAM sticks with 256 MB each, but AMIBIOS says II only have 511 MB of RAM
[15:08] <ARM9> I'm currently using 1.12GiB
[15:08] <ARM9> don't use firefox or chromium
[15:09] <SamwiseGamgee> also, I´m trying to run memtest86 with my USB flash drive, but it won´t boot up.  Is it because I cleared by master boot record by removing the battery?
[15:12] <ARM9> huh, my keyboard repeat stopped working
[15:12] <holstein> SamwiseGamgee: removing batteries doesnt do that
[15:13] <SamwiseGamgee> AMIBIOS said my BIO
[15:13] <SamwiseGamgee> said my BIOS is wrong
[15:13] <holstein> SamwiseGamgee: ok.. you'll want to address any hardware issues like that before dealing with an operating system
[15:14] <holstein> SamwiseGamgee: i have found messages like that can sometimes just be about the CMOS battery being bad.. but, the CMOS battery doesnt effect the hard drive
[15:14] <SamwiseGamgee> It was working fine before I took out the battery
[15:15] <SamwiseGamgee> But I changed the BIOS settings, and I think it´s working better now
[15:15] <SamwiseGamgee> But I want to run a memory test and memtest86 is not booting up from my USB drive
[15:15] <SamwiseGamgee> my USB stick
[15:16] <SamwiseGamgee> Is it because it is Linux-based?
[15:18] <holstein> SamwiseGamgee: no
[15:18] <holstein> SamwiseGamgee: try looking in your bios and see what is set to boot
[15:18] <SamwiseGamgee> Ok
[15:20] <SamwiseGamgee> It´s hard to get into BIOS, and I keep getting MBR Error 1
[15:21] <holstein> SamwiseGamgee: i would be testing hardware at that point..
[15:21] <SamwiseGamgee> I got into BIOS but can´t find the boot setting menu
[15:22] <SamwiseGamgee> I´ve seen it before but can´t rremember which menu to go to
[15:22] <GridCube> SamwiseGamgee, is your computer new?
[15:22] <SamwiseGamgee> No, itś'almost 10 years old
[15:23] <holstein> SamwiseGamgee: the bios is specific to your setup..
[15:23] <GridCube> 'kay
[15:23] <SamwiseGamgee> AMIBIOS 3.31a
[15:23] <GridCube> SamwiseGamgee, you might need to take the PLOP route
[15:23] <SamwiseGamgee> I found it
[15:24] <GridCube> http://xubuntu.org/news/booting-the-xubuntu-usb-image-from-a-cd/
[15:25] <SamwiseGamgee> I set the USB as the primary boot mode, but it´s still not working
[15:27] <GridCube> SamwiseGamgee, check the link i pasted please
[15:27] <SamwiseGamgee> I just did
[15:27] <SamwiseGamgee> Itś kind of confusing, why can´t I just burn everything into an installation DVD?
[15:28] <holstein> SamwiseGamgee: it may be the bios is "bad", or the machine is broken in some way.. with older hardware like that, i typically test and try and diagnose everything as much as possible
[15:28] <holstein> SamwiseGamgee: dont assume the USB or ubuntu is "bad".. test the stick on another machine.. if it boots there, then, you can assume the issue is with the current machine kicking up the bios errors
[15:29] <SamwiseGamgee> the motherboard has never been used until two months ago, so it´s like new, but it was made about ten years ago
[15:29] <holstein> SamwiseGamgee: dont assume its funcitonal.. test it
[15:29] <SamwiseGamgee> Test the USB stick?
[15:30] <holstein> SamwiseGamgee: correct.. as i suggested, if you take it to another machine, and it boots, then, the stick can be assumed "good"
[15:30] <holstein> !md5
[15:32] <SamwiseGamgee> My PSU blew up, so it may have damaged the MB, but I was running and installing Windowx XP and it was working fine for a few days
[15:34] <SamwiseGamgee> But something weird happened.  When I was about the press the power button to turn it on, it turned on by itself before I fully pressed the power button
[15:35] <SamwiseGamgee> Then it made clicking sounds and acted weird, everthing speeded up and it was opoening windows over and over whenn I only clicked on the window once
[15:36] <SamwiseGamgee> the same thing happened to my other PC with the cursor flashing and multiple windows opening, so it made me suspect it´s a virus and not a hardware issue
[15:37] <SamwiseGamgee> Both PCs also won´t let me shut them off
[15:38] <holstein> SamwiseGamgee: clicking sounds can be hard drive failures
[15:39] <holstein> SamwiseGamgee: could be the hardware power switch is stuck.. if you have no experience with the hardware, you dont know what is funcitoning or not
[15:39] <SamwiseGamgee> I have a lot of experience with this hardware and I know the MB well
[15:39] <holstein> SamwiseGamgee: you just stated, the MB was sitting around for a long time
[15:40] <SamwiseGamgee> I used her sister MB for ten years
[15:40] <holstein> 11:29 < SamwiseGamgee> the motherboard has never been used until two months ago, so it´s like new, but it was made about ten years ago
[15:40] <SamwiseGamgee> that is true, yes
[15:40] <holstein> SamwiseGamgee: unless you have used *that* *exact* unit, you cannot say its functional.. please test it and go from there
[15:41] <SamwiseGamgee> The only bootable software that works is Acronis and Redobackup
[15:41] <SamwiseGamgee> The Windows installation CD also works
[15:42] <SamwiseGamgee> But late in the Windows XP installation process, I start getting cursor flashes, but it still works
[15:43] <SamwiseGamgee> But later, always after Windows XP is installed, it works fine for a little while, but then it starts opening multiple windows without my permission, and the cursor flashes a lot
[15:44] <SamwiseGamgee> But when I run Acronis and Redobackkup off the CD, it works fine
[15:45] <SamwiseGamgee> But I had a lot of trouble creating a bootable CD or a bootable USB jump using this computer which is running Kubuntu
[15:45] <SamwiseGamgee> because my optical drive can´t seem to write anything onto a CD
[15:46] <SamwiseGamgee> but I have a new external optical drive, which I could hook up to burn CDs and DVDs
[15:47] <SamwiseGamgee> But I don´t know how to install the drivers for it, because the drivers I have for the external optical drive are supposed to be installed in Windows
[15:47] <SamwiseGamgee> and this PC is running Kubuntu 12.04
[19:11] <meek_geek> howdy
[19:52] <xubuntu354> What program does stock xubuntu use for internet management?
[19:53] <koegs> xubuntu354: network-manager, just as ubuntu
[19:54] <xubuntu354> But that doesn't seem to be installed on here. At least writing network-manager in a terminal opens nothing.
[19:55] <xubuntu354> Because the options available from the panel applet are ridiculously limited.
[19:56] <xubuntu697> hey
[19:56] <xubuntu697> can anyone help me ?
[19:56] <xubuntu354> maybe.
[19:56] <xubuntu697> I have a problem with the sound
[19:57] <xubuntu697> whenever I'm listening to something it bumps
[19:57] <xubuntu697> like little stops
[20:04] <xubsat> seems like a problem of sync, but it is not
[20:04] <xubsat> hey, I got a problem with thw sound, whenever I'm listening to any song or video, it gives me little sound stops
[20:46] <Guido1> Hello, I'm searching for a new latop to put xubuntu on. I already made a basic comparision, but now it's about the grafikcard and the processor etc. on http://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/?cat=nb&asuch=Cardreader&asd=on&bpmax=700&v=e&filter=aktualisieren&xf=2379_15.4~69_Nummernblock~28_2000~83_LCD%20matt%20%28non-glare%29~893_4~2377_17.9~3310_2013~2647_40&sort=p you can see which futures are available for me and I'm interested in the different
[20:46] <Guido1> advantages and disadvantages expecialy in regard to working with linux
[21:06] <js_doode> I'm looking to add Sublime Text 2 to xfce menu, per these instructions:http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu , would like to know what categories xfce uses.
[21:07] <slimjimflim> hi, ever since i upgraded to 14.04 my monitor shuts off after 10 min. of no mouse/keyboard input.  does anyone know how to keep it on indefinitely?
[21:08] <Unit193> js_doode: I think menulibre can add them just fine.
[21:08] <js_doode> Unit193: Oh. I wasn't aware of menulibre. Thanks.
[21:09] <jazzycool> hey
[21:09] <jazzycool> guys
[21:09] <jazzycool> I am actually having some problem with my media player plugins on web browser
[21:09] <jazzycool> that is I am not able to play videos of Playwire, Dailymotion or videoweed
[21:10] <jazzycool> can you guys help me with the same
[21:10] <jazzycool> playwire video doesnt show up dailymotion shows up but whenever I play it gets stuck in the loading screen
[21:10] <jazzycool> and videoweed keeps buffering every now and then
[21:10] <jazzycool> can you guys please help me out
[21:11] <jazzycool> I would highly appreciate your help
[21:14] <jazzycool> guys  anyone
[21:14] <jazzycool> I really need help
[21:14] <Jonty> when i try to add the indicator panel to my xfce panel, it keeps on crashing. a google tells me this is actually unsupported(??) if so, what is the supported way of getting a system tray thing where i can see what programs are running in the background?
[21:18] <js_doode> Unit193: I symlinked Sublime dir from /opt to /usr/bin --> should I put /usr/bin as working directory for menulibre?
[21:19] <js_doode> jazzycool: it helps if you are more specific, what browser, what's the error exactly. just fyi.
[21:20] <jazzycool> I am using chrome and firefox the problem is the game on it whenever I open a website with playwire player it doesn't show up the video at all just a blank black space
[21:20] <jazzycool> and dailymotion stops the video at the loading screen doesnt move on
[21:21] <jazzycool> same*
[21:21] <js_doode> Unit193: Never mind, I cannot select it from /usr/bin, so I'm guessing /opt
[21:21] <js_doode> jazzycool: Can your hardware handle the videos? Are you in a good machine?
[21:22] <jazzycool> ,y hardware is pretty modern and yes can handle things very good it does on my windows
[21:22] <jazzycool> it has 8GB RAM, intel i7, Nvidia GT650M 2GB
[21:23] <js_doode> jazzycool: provide me with some links of websites running these platforms. Playwire, Dailymotion, videoweed
[21:23] <jazzycool> 1) http://www.musicnmovies.info/stars/gurmeet.php?session=27cTWeZm6q35928335&docid2=12421
[21:24] <jazzycool> 2) http://www.bollyguide.com/stars/sanaya.php?session=64cTWeZm6q29x1y37x9
[21:24] <jazzycool> 3) http://www.bollyguide.com/stars/karan.php?session=24cTWeZm6q374df5136f960f1
[21:25] <jazzycool> first one is playwire second one is dailymotion and third is videoweed
[21:25] <js_doode> jazzycool: what version of xubuntu you running?
[21:26] <jazzycool> I am petty sure its 13.10
[21:26] <jazzycool> but not sure
[21:26] <jazzycool> hold on
[21:26] <jazzycool> I will check it up
[21:26] <js_doode> jazzycool: run lsb_release -a in terminal
[21:27] <jazzycool> yeah it is xubuntu 13.10
[21:28] <js_doode> jazzycool: you have an issue with your plugins. Upgrade your browsers.
[21:29] <jazzycool> alright I will try that
[21:30] <js_doode> jazzycool: I'm running 14.04, and my firefox browser is v29, and those videos played fine for me.
[21:30] <jazzycool> ok one mroe question
[21:30] <js_doode> jazzycool: not saying you have to upgrade to 14.04, but just your browsers.
[21:30] <jazzycool> how do u suggest I should upgrade my web browser
[21:32] <jazzycool> hey can you help with the upgrade of my web browser
[21:32] <js_doode> jazzycool: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:33] <jazzycool> well I think my web browser is up-to-date
[21:33] <jazzycool> but not sure
[21:34] <jazzycool> and if I upgrade the whole distro will I loose my files and everything bcz I dont want any problem
[21:34] <jazzycool> as I have my imp files on my computer and it is also dual booted on EFI windows 8
[21:34] <jazzycool> so??
[21:35] <jazzycool> hey u there
[21:35] <js_doode> jazzycool: it won't upgrade your distro. just the files for your current distro.
[21:35] <jazzycool> oh ok...lol
[21:35] <jazzycool> sorry I am not quite familiar with linux
[21:35] <jazzycool> and what if I wanted to upgrade my distro
[21:35] <jazzycool> in the future
[21:35] <js_doode> jazzycool: man apt-get
[21:36] <jazzycool> ok
[21:36] <jazzycool> as 13.10 support ends in july 2014
[21:36] <js_doode> jazzycool: in the manpages for apt-get find the section for dist-upgrade.
[21:37] <jazzycool> ok
[21:37] <js_doode> jazzycool: In the case of upgrading, backup and re-install no different than any other OS.
[21:37] <jazzycool> oh ok dang thats a lot of pain in the ass
[21:37] <jazzycool> lol
[21:38] <jazzycool> because I am sure it is very difficult
[21:38] <js_doode> jazzycool: you should be backing up anyway. Hard drives are fickle.
[21:38] <jazzycool> specially on the efi hardware
[21:38] <jazzycool> true
[21:41] <jazzycool> thanks man I appreciate your help


[13:23] <alex_mayorga> chrisccoulson: ping
[13:37] <alex_mayorga> chrisccoulson: Seems like trunk crashed and burn https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa Would you be giving that robot "the talk" =)
[15:32] <chrisccoulson> alex_mayorga, yes and no ;)


[02:13] <lighta> how can I retrieve a file I just erase ? (e.g lets say I copy a file from a different location on past it on my current directory. Filename was similare and my copy erased my previous file, can I get it back ?)
[02:22] <bo_kane> hey'
[02:23] <bo_kane> testing testing
[02:23] <bo_kane> anyone know how to exit the busybox prompt on xubuntu
[06:03] <pupetto> ciao a tutti
[09:57] <menotknow> Hello all, how do i uninstall xubuntu. I can not get into it to unstall it so any help would nice, thank you
[09:58] <TheSheep> menotknow: how did you install it?
[09:58] <menotknow> from cd
[09:59] <menotknow> my video card does not let me into xubuntu so i want to uninstall it
[09:59] <Sysi> did you install it from windows?
[09:59] <Sysi> with wubi
[10:00] <menotknow> no befor i upgraded my computer i booted into xubuntu and installed it that way
[10:01] <Sysi> if you want to replace it with windows, it's actually windows issue, it can't uninstall itself, that would be like eating your head
[10:02] <menotknow> ok, i want to get the hard drive space back from the install of it
[10:03] <menotknow> is that possible?
[10:03] <Sysi> you can remove partition(s) with livecd and enlarge windows partition or create new ntfs-partition
[10:03] <Sysi> but you will need to fix windows bootloader, and i don't know how
[10:04] <Sysi> in win7 it's possible with retail installation disc
[10:05] <menotknow> ok thank you Sysi for all your help. I guess i will do a fresh install of windows on my computer
[10:06] <menotknow> have a good night all and thank you for all your help
[10:12] <Gaudi> Just here to say: I like XUbuntu
[10:12] <TheSheep> don't worry, it will pass
[10:17] <Gaudi> XUbuntu is KISS
[10:21] <Gaudi> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle)
[10:58] <beefsalad> how can I configure the network interfaces in xubuntu?  Under ubuntu network-manager was present in the task bar
[10:59] <beefsalad> under xubuntu, NetworkManager is running, but theres no obvious way to configure it via an X app
[10:59] <beefsalad> if I didn't have to connect via wpa, I'd do it by hand, but...work requires wpa ;)
[11:00] <Sysi> alt+F2 "nm-applet" if it isn't in panel
[11:01] <beefsalad> damnit, I'm an idiot
[11:02] <beefsalad> it's there, just doesn't look like a network icon to me  ;)
[11:02] <beefsalad> thanks Sysi!
[11:03] <Sysi> np
[12:40] <beefsalad> one more annoyance, and I'll try not to ask a question until I've answered 5 ;)
[12:43] <beefsalad> dates in thunderbird are being displayed as YY-MM-DD, in ubuntu it was MM-DD-YY, how can I change that?
[14:52] <citrus23455> help..my laptop is an old pentium, can't support compiz, i can't get past the boot cd screen on the live cd, what boot parameters should i enter to avoid compiz?
[14:55] <charlie-tca> If you are using the Xubuntu cd, it does not use compiz
[14:56] <citrus23455> well then it's an intel graphics problem
[14:57] <citrus23455> charlie-tca: intel graphics chip doesnt work very well with linux
[14:57] <charlie-tca> I am using it without issues
[14:57] <citrus23455> well I seem to have a truckload of issues :(
[14:58] <citrus23455> (not personally) but rather with the laptop
[14:58] <charlie-tca> however, on the cd, at the menu, hit F6, try those options one at a time. You hit enter on one, then escape, then enter to start the install
[14:58] <Sysi> how much ram?
[14:58] <brousch> you could also try the alternate install CD and afterwards install xubuntu-desktop
[14:59] <charlie-tca> um, the desktop installs even with the alternate cd
[14:59] <citrus23455> well, this laptop is exceptionally hard to install onto.
[14:59] <brousch> it does?
[14:59] <citrus23455>  INTEL R 82810 GRAPHICS
[14:59] <charlie-tca> of course. The difference is the installer, not what it does
[14:59] <brousch> maybe i'm thinking of the server install
[15:00] <knome> there is the minimal iso as well
[15:00] <charlie-tca> minimal is not good if the person doesn't have the ability/knowledge to get past the boot menu, is it?
[15:01] <citrus23455> yes
[15:01] <citrus23455> charlie-tca
[15:01] <citrus23455> that's where i'm stuck
[15:02] <charlie-tca> hit a key when the two symbols appear at the bottom, try the F6 options to see if one will get you started
[15:04] <citrus23455> okay
[15:04] <citrus23455> i'm gonna try this
[15:14] <citrus23455> charlie-tca: it didnt work
[15:28] <charlie-tca> what didn't work?
[15:29] <charlie-tca> you put the Xubuntu cd in the drive, you started the computer, you hit enter at the languages, you hit F6, you tried every one of those options, and ??
[15:40] <citrus23455> charlie-tca: i tried all those options, and it won't boot, it flashes at me, it has something to do with the intel 830m graphics card
[15:41] <citrus23455> do you know if there's any way of using the 5.10 ubuntu with the latest firefox / latest browser?
[15:41] <citrus23455> flash player too
[15:41] <citrus23455> charlie-tca: can I install firefox 3.6 on ubuntu 5.10?
[15:45] <brousch> 5.10 is ancient. even 6.06 LTS desktop has been out of support for a year and a half. i wouldn't hold my breath
[15:45] <charlie-tca> I don't think it will work.
[15:46] <charlie-tca> Is 5.10 the cd that is failing for you, too?
[15:47] <citrus23455> no.
[15:47] <citrus23455> charlie-tca: distros that work are: ubuntu 5.10, 7.10. 7.04. xubuntu 7.10.
[15:47] <citrus23455> ubuntu 8.10 hangs.
[15:47] <brousch> how about 8.04?
[15:47] <knome> ubuntu 8.10 or xubuntu 8.10 ?
[15:47] <charlie-tca> Try downloading and installing 10.04 or 10.10
[15:48] <citrus23455> i'm downloading that right now to test it.
[15:48] <citrus23455> charlie-tca:
[15:48] <charlie-tca> 8.10 is also EOL
[15:48] <citrus23455> eol?
[15:48] <knome> end of life
[15:48] <charlie-tca> End Of Life
[15:48] <citrus23455> shit
[15:48] <citrus23455> i wish it wasnt
[15:48] <brousch> 8.04 has another 2 months of life ;)
[15:48] <charlie-tca> No longer supported
[15:48] <citrus23455> drat it
[15:48] <Sysi> how do you know it's about graphics card?
[15:48] <citrus23455> this machine's a nightmare to work linux on
[15:48] <knome> charlie-tca, please watch your languge
[15:49] <knome> erm, citrus23455 ^
[15:49] <citrus23455> it's definitely the graphics card
[15:49] <knome> charlie-tca, but you too little fellow! ;)
[15:49] <citrus23455> lol sorry knome
[15:49] <citrus23455> :D
[15:49] <knome> no problem
[15:49] <knome> we're just trying to keep the channel family-friendly
[15:49] <citrus23455> ah yes, indeed, i'm sorry
[15:49] <charlie-tca> okay, I will try :-)
[15:50] <knome> charlie-tca can be a real hard case now and then
[15:50] <citrus23455> i narrowed it down to the intel 830m chipset lots of others were having that problem
[15:50] <charlie-tca> citrus23455: Most people have better results using the latest releases. They have been improved to work with more hardware
[15:51] <citrus23455> can you install .deb into puppylinux>?
[15:51] <citrus23455> charlie-tca: 10.10 xubuntu / ubuntu both flash when trying to load boot splash screen.
[15:51] <citrus23455> then they hang
[15:51] <citrus23455> i'm considering installing puppylinux... provided it is similar to ubuntu
[15:52] <citrus23455> charlie-tca: what do yo uthink?
[15:53] <Sysi> afaik it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[15:57] <charlie-tca> I think each person should try several different operating systems, to find the one they like
[15:57] <charlie-tca> Hopefully, that one will be Xubuntu, in the end
[15:57] <charlie-tca> On the other hand, I am a bit stubborn, and don't actually give up easy
[15:58] <charlie-tca> I installed wireless on 5.04 and 5.10
[15:58] <charlie-tca> when you had to download from 4 or 5 sites, copy the files to floppy disks, and install from them to get wireless working
[16:41] <mark76> Apparently you can't untar multiple packages at once
[18:06] <xubuntu323> ciao
[18:17] <qiyan> hello don't open eric python IDE on xubuntu
[18:18] <charlie-tca> okay, but we usually don't bother paying attention to such statements without reasons
[19:01] <gonzo_> hola
[21:21] <xubuntu811> hi all first time on xubuntu so could you recomend what is better for remote controle. i know just 2 options vino and freeNX<-which is better?
[21:24] <xubuntu811> is all dead?
[21:25] <Sysi> don't know ir no opinions or just not here at this minute, wait for some time
[21:25] <Sysi> s/ir/or
[21:25] <charlie-tca> I suspect it is more a matter of who has tried both and knows the differences
[21:26] <xubuntu811> is anybody using any remote controle xubuntu <-> windows 7?
[21:26] <charlie-tca> xubuntu811: I will take a shot at it. I have used vino, so that would be my recommendation
[21:26] <charlie-tca> I have never used freenx
[21:26]  * charlie-tca doesn't really have windows, either
[21:27] <xubuntu3924> How can I keep the back audio unmuted when I plug headphones into the front port?
[21:28] <xubuntu3924> headphone/line sense is off
[21:29] <xubuntu811> thanx for attention :) i will try them bouth and tell you mates :), but at first need to learn some commans
[21:32] <David-A> xubuntu811: vino is in the repositories, freenx not afai can see. you can remote control with gui with ssh -Y and command line with ssh. from winxp with X in cygwin, win7 i dont know.
[21:34] <brousch> i like nomachine for remote desktop
[21:34] <brousch> freenx tries to be like nomachne's nx
[21:39] <xubuntu3924> I take it no one can help?
[22:19] <guest> I take it you can't use the speakers and headphones?
[22:20] <charlie-tca> kind of defeats the purpose of the headphones
[22:20] <guest> Not if you have two sets of headphones
[22:21] <Sysi> you propably need to do the muting from mixer, xfce one or pulseaudio
[22:23] <charlie-tca> I don't really know, I only have one speaker output on my soundcard.
[22:24] <charlie-tca> I do know, if I plug into the headphone jack on the sound card, the speakers do not mute. If I plug into the headphones jack on the speakers, they do mute
[22:25] <guest> I have a front port and back port
[22:25] <guest> Nothing is on mute
[22:26] <charlie-tca> Plug the headphones into the speaker ports
[22:27] <guest> Two headphones one in front and one in back
[22:27] <guest> When I unplug the front the back start playing the audio
[22:28] <charlie-tca> that would be a hardware limit then. the front jack takes priority over the rear jack
[22:28] <guest> Do I need to check the jack sense in the switches tab (in mixer)?
[22:29] <charlie-tca> I suspect you would need to rewire the box itself, to allow both headphones to be used
[22:29] <guest> In windows all I need to do is kill the audio manager..
[22:30] <guest> On another computer that is
[22:30] <charlie-tca> um, that is not the same then
[22:33] <guest> So the hardware doesn't support it... thanks for your help


[05:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4794 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination
[10:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4791 Diff missing (focal/livecd-rootfs). Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (focal/linux-intel-iotg-5.15, focal/linux-restricted-modules-intel-iotg-5.15, focal/linux-signed-intel-iotg-5.15). Proposed pocket (focal/linux-meta-intel-iotg-5.15)


[13:49] <mdeslaur> tjaalton: hi! do you have an xorg-server merge planned?
[13:49] <tjaalton> mdeslaur: hey, yes
[13:49] <mdeslaur> thanks!
[14:05] <tjaalton> mdeslaur: uploaded
[14:05] <mdeslaur> tjaalton++


[01:22] <hggdh> knome: thank you
[09:30] <elopio> robotfuel: please remember https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/url_dispatcher/+merge/208616
[09:30] <robotfuel> elopio: thanks for bugging me! I forgot
[09:30] <elopio> I'm good at bugging, don't worry.
[10:14] <elopio> jibel: can you give me an example of launching an app with upstart ?


[00:05] <gkahla> an 'apt-cache search' for pthread-stubs.pc tells me libpthread-stubs0-dev is where to find the config file... it's installed, but a package I'm compiling can't find it - ideas?
[00:16] <gkahla> going to find something to chew on - later!
[00:17] <PsynoKhi0> hi again, can a swap partiton be physically damaged, and if so, is there a way to check/repair it?
[00:22] <lars_> hello?
[00:25] <Deniz_Ogut> Hello,I've just performed a distro upgrade to xubuntu 8.04 via Web. I'm using Turkish locale. For I upgrade via Web, almost all my settings are as they were and I didn't have a problem. But today I added a new user and when I switch to that user's desktop what I see is the main Xfce menu of the new user is empty. No applications, nothing. Just "help", "about xfce" and "quit" buttons. On the...
[00:25] <Deniz_Ogut> ...panel there are Firefox button, "places" button and quit button apart from main Xfce menu but -as I say- it is empty. Any idea?
[00:26] <lars_> Oh yippee. Xubuntu has no forums and an IRC channel with nobody home. is there ANY reason not to go back to VectorLinux
[00:27] <Deniz_Ogut> @lars_ Hello Lars_
[00:31] <PsynoKhi0> about the missing aps I don't know, maybe check your your privileges for that new user
[00:33] <Deniz_Ogut> I can reach the applications for that user via alt-F2
[00:34] <PsynoKhi0> there is indeed no official forum for xubuntu, though afaik the same applies for other ubuntu flavors, since the ubuntu forums do the trick in most cases
[00:34] <PsynoKhi0> bah he left
[00:36] <PsynoKhi0> do you have the Applications button?
[00:37] <Deniz_Ogut> No.
[00:37] <PsynoKhi0> right click on top panel, "add item" > Xfce Menu
[00:37] <BigBur> lar_ sounds like he's having an identity crisis, haha.
[00:37] <BigBur> lars_*
[00:38] <Deniz_Ogut> I did it. I have Xfce menu but....
[00:38] <Deniz_Ogut> just "about" and "quit" buttons under it! Interesting.
[00:40] <PsynoKhi0> if you start Thunar and check for a .config folder (hidden by default) is there anything in there
[00:42] <Deniz_Ogut> Hmmm. googd idea . Do you remember the exact route for .config? Do you mean xog.config or something else?
[00:42] <Deniz_Ogut> * xorg.config
[00:43] <PsynoKhi0> it's in your /home/<user>/ directory
[00:43] <Deniz_Ogut> ok,i am checking it. Thanks.
[00:47] <Deniz_Ogut> There are 3 directories under it.
[00:47] <Deniz_Ogut> konuk@marenostrum:~/.config$ ls
[00:47] <Deniz_Ogut> mousepad  Thunar  xfce4
[00:48] <PsynoKhi0> xfce4 then
[00:48] <Deniz_Ogut> going in it
[00:49] <Deniz_Ogut> There are 4 directories under it:
[00:49] <Deniz_Ogut> konuk@marenostrum:~/.config/xfce4$ ls
[00:49] <Deniz_Ogut> desktop  mcs_settings  panel  xfwm4
[00:50] <PsynoKhi0> desktop
[00:50] <Deniz_Ogut> going under it.
[00:51] <Deniz_Ogut> There are 2 things:
[00:51] <Deniz_Ogut> konuk@marenostrum:~/.config/xfce4/desktop$ ls
[00:51] <Deniz_Ogut> icons.screen0.rc  menu.xml
[00:52] <PsynoKhi0> menu.xml (right click, Mousepad)
[00:55] <Deniz_Ogut> Here it is:
[00:55] <Deniz_Ogut> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

[00:55] <Deniz_Ogut> 	<app name="Kılavuz" cmd="xfbrowser4 /usr/share/xubuntu-docs/about/xubuntu-index.html" icon="gnome-help"/>
[00:55] <Deniz_Ogut> 	<app name="Xfce Hakkında" cmd="xfce4-about" icon="info"/>
[00:55] <Deniz_Ogut> 	<builtin name="Çık" cmd="quit" icon="gnome-logout"/>

[00:55] <PsynoKhi0> wait
[00:55] <PsynoKhi0> use the pastebin please :P
[00:56] <Deniz_Ogut> those Turkish words mean: Kilavuz= something like about,Xfce hakkında= About Xfce, Çık= Quit
[00:56] <Deniz_Ogut> Those 3 are what I see under main menu. But no applications, system etc.
[00:56] <PsynoKhi0> yup
[00:57] <Deniz_Ogut> sorry, I thik I have to learn about pastebin.
[00:57] <PsynoKhi0> np, http://pastebin.com
[00:57] <PsynoKhi0> paste our content there
[00:57] <PsynoKhi0> your*
[00:57] <Deniz_Ogut> Sorryagain and thank you. I will learn.
[00:58] <PsynoKhi0> your menu.xml is missing the important parts though
[00:58] <PsynoKhi0> rename it to menu.old, log out and then log back in
[00:59] <PsynoKhi0> that might solve your problem
[00:59] <PsynoKhi0> if not I'll give you the lines to add in your menu file
[01:00] <Deniz_Ogut> Thank you. By the way,should I do like this?
[01:00] <Deniz_Ogut> http://pastebin.com/m42013351
[01:01] <purpleposeidon> ??winmodem
[01:01] <purpleposeidon> ooh, I should regenerate my ssh keys?
[01:01] <purpleposeidon> !winmodem
[01:01] <PsynoKhi0> awesome :) can you please try to rename that file and log out/in first?
[01:02] <Deniz_Ogut> ok. thanks.
[01:29] <xStandarshy> hi room
[01:39] <thinkmassive> hello
[01:41] <David-A> hello my friend
[01:44] <quaal> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=477454
[01:51] <Deniz_Ogut> @PsynoKhi0: Hi again. That doesn't work. After I changed the name from menu.xml to menu.old; nothing changed with regard to the newuser and what's moru Xfce couldn't open my default user sessin; it suspended at the auto start stage of opening session. So I changed the new user's file to the original and I can log in my default user's sesion as well. By the way I copied the default (main)...
[01:51] <Deniz_Ogut> ...user's menu.xml file. I can replace it with the new user's if you advice so.
[01:53] <PsynoKhi0> Deniz_Ogut: ah, dang... well your menu.xml was missing a few lines, hang on
[01:55] <Deniz_Ogut> By the way: menu.xml of the main user has almost no similarity with the new user's. I have both at hand now. I can replace the newuser's menu.xml either with the one you maybe will be sending to me or with the main user's menu.xml.
[01:57] <PsynoKhi0> Deniz_Ogut: http://pastebin.com/m11636034 the lines that were in my menu.xml file but not yours are highlighted, though you would have to check the 'name="" ' to fit your locale settings
[01:59] <Deniz_Ogut> Thank you verymuch. What can you sayabout the idea to replace it with my main users menu.xml. Main users session has no problem.
[01:59] <PsynoKhi0> could be the easiest
[01:59] <Deniz_Ogut> Thank you very much for taking your time.
[02:00] <Deniz_Ogut> Thank's a lot.
[02:01] <PsynoKhi0> np :)
[02:01] <PsynoKhi0> were you missing the icons on the desktop too?
[02:02] <Deniz_Ogut> No icons are there.
[02:02] <PsynoKhi0> ok
[02:11] <neighborlee> http://youtube.com/user/xomagick < HELP , I cant get this page to show up
[02:12] <neighborlee> I just installed java plugin, and I have flash 9 installed of course..what else am I missing ;)))
[02:12] <PsynoKhi0> can you open other flash pages?
[02:12] <neighborlee> ok THIS is odd
[02:13] <neighborlee> I just installed java plugin and now flash site wont work LOL
[02:13] <neighborlee> good lord ;00
[02:13] <PsynoKhi0> did you download it from their site?
[02:13] <neighborlee> I was able to view startrek.com just fine..now it says I dont have flash
[02:13] <neighborlee> no
[02:13] <neighborlee> from repo
[02:13] <neighborlee> but as I say startrek.com was working fine...
[02:13] <PsynoKhi0> flashplugin-nonfree?
[02:13] <neighborlee> correct
[02:14] <neighborlee> is firefox 3 a bit buggy maybe ?
[02:14] <PsynoKhi0> heh
[02:14] <neighborlee> lol
[02:14] <PsynoKhi0> could be, gave up on it for now
[02:14] <neighborlee> ive heard various ..ahem comments about it ;)
[02:14] <neighborlee> I think thats a good idea.
[02:14] <neighborlee> grabbing 2
[02:15] <kingair_six> hello, I got a question about a network issue with my belkin 7010 PC card (broadcom chipset). the b43 driver from linuxwireless.org is installed an everything, but wifi-radar wont recognize the card, is running on eth0 instead, and network manager cant be started. i'm a relative noob, so i'd appreciate any help. thank you!
[02:16] <PsynoKhi0> FF3 was eating all my cpu cycles for no apparent reasons after a few minutes
[02:17] <neighborlee> ouch
[02:18] <neighborlee> ok..I have a suggestion
[02:18] <PsynoKhi0> kingair_six: can't be of any help myself, complete wireless illiterate sorry
[02:18] <neighborlee> rip ff3 OUT of xubntu at once..its clearlly NOT stable.
[02:18] <thinkmassive> all this talk of menu.xml reminds me that I still haven't figured out a straight-forward way to drag an icon from the menu to the panel... can someone point me to some instructions on how to do this?
[02:18] <neighborlee> I removed it, and installed firefox2, and   my flash sites aer working just great...
[02:18] <thinkmassive> well FF3 is a beta
[02:18] <neighborlee> then why was it included for petes sake.
[02:19] <neighborlee> linux isn't beta software..I dont get it ;)
[02:19] <thinkmassive> Fedora 9 was released today and they include FF3 beta 2 also
[02:19] <PsynoKhi0> thinkmassive: indeed, and as such has nothing to do in an LTS distro imo
[02:19] <thinkmassive> probably just to "compete" with ubuntu
[02:19] <neighborlee> they were equally stupid.
[02:19] <thinkmassive> PsynoKhi0: good point
[02:19] <neighborlee> agreed...and its just stilly
[02:19] <neighborlee> lol silly ;)
[02:19] <thinkmassive> FF is getting bloated
[02:19] <neighborlee> anyway..its just annoying to be frustrated by obvious simple things to avoid ;)
[02:19] <neighborlee> thinkmassive,  yeah true
[02:20] <PsynoKhi0> using opera for the most part...
[02:20] <thinkmassive> so... is there an easy way to place a shortcut on the panel from the xfce menu?
[02:20] <thinkmassive> I thought I used to be able to right-click and select "add launcher to panel"
[02:20] <neighborlee> PsynoKhi0, hmm how do you like opera  compared to ff then...
[02:20] <neighborlee> thinkmassive, oh yes easily
[02:21] <neighborlee> thinkmassive, right click bar and choose add item
[02:21] <neighborlee> then the first 'item' on dialogue that comes up, is what you want
[02:21] <neighborlee> thinkmassive, launcher <
[02:21] <PsynoKhi0> neighborlee: I've been using opera since 2001 or so... kinda biased towards it :P
[02:21] <thinkmassive> hmm yeah, but how do I get the same icon as in the menu?
[02:21] <neighborlee> PsynoKhi0, ahhh yes ,,,one friend uses it alot so ;)
[02:22] <neighborlee> thinkmassive, but thats a main menu icon, why would you want that
[02:22] <neighborlee> thinkmassive, if you do, I am not sure where it is other than /usr/share/pixmaps
[02:22] <thinkmassive> oh sorry, I meant the icon from the application
[02:22] <PsynoKhi0> thinkmassive, first you could give it a try with the same name for the icon as the app name
[02:22] <thinkmassive> as an example, say I want to add Pidgin to my panel
[02:23] <thinkmassive> I just thought maybe there was a direct method I was missing, but maybe that was from an old ubuntu install before I discovered the beauty of xfce
[02:23] <thinkmassive> thanks anyway :)
[02:24] <neighborlee> brb
[02:28] <PsynoKhi0> thinkmassive: name "Pidgin" icon "pidgin-menu" executable "pidgin"
[02:29] <PsynoKhi0> or choose another icon from /usr/share/pixmaps
[02:31] <thinkmassive> ooh I see, so any apps that have a menu entry probably have an icon in the pixmaps dir
[02:32] <thinkmassive> much appreciated, thank you!
[02:36] <BigBur> somebody told me that debian running with xfce would actually run faster than xubuntu - any opinions?
[02:36] <BigBur> I've never touched debian mysefl
[02:36] <PsynoKhi0> thinkmassive: n
[02:37] <PsynoKhi0> np*
[02:37] <PsynoKhi0> BigBur: me neither :)
[02:37] <thinkmassive> I used to use debian but *ubuntu has a much larger community
[02:37] <thinkmassive> you can create the same system starting from either base
[02:38] <PsynoKhi0> nite
[03:55] <BigBur> my house is about to flood
[03:55] <BigBur> methinks
[03:55] <BigBur> not that anyone really cares, but I felt like sharing
[04:01] <Deniz_Ogut> Is there anyone in charge df xubuntu bugs who can give some time to me? I want to ask something about an important bug before reporting it.
[04:10] <mib_rqy2xy> for the record, i have a ibook g4 a1054 and xubuntu 8 and 7 would not boot while 6 did (8 alternative installed but would not boot)
[04:16] <Mannequin> hi
[04:17] <Mannequin> from time to time the clipboard starts acting weird
[04:17] <Mannequin> if I try to copy and paste, I always get this:
[04:17] <Mannequin> ŸŸ
[04:17] <Mannequin> is there anyway to reset it from the command line?
[05:26] <noclue> okay, so i lost power during upgrade to hardy heron, and now xubuntu seems broken... any ideas on how to "re-upgrade"?
[05:39] <deformation> hello
[05:41] <deformation> I am having a small annoying problem, my windows partition and other internal partitions does not show in the side panel of thunar or in the panel places, it used to show there automatically in gutsy, but now whenever i want to access them i have to go to /media, anyone knows why and how to fix this?
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[07:04] <surgy> hello
[07:04] <surgy> i just got my fluxbuntu install on my 400mhz 256 mb ram carputer and im not happy, what package do i need to install in order for me to try out xfce?
[07:06] <ere4si> surgy: xubuntu-desktop
[07:06] <surgy> does xfce run faster than fluxbox?
[07:07] <ere4si> surgy: there's not much diff but flux is a bit quicker
[07:07] <surgy> but flux sucks
[07:07] <surgy> this comp should be running pretty quick with my setup and its not
[07:07] <ere4si> surgy: I use it and find it ok... - what trouble do you have?
[07:08] <surgy> im having all kinds of trouble with acpi
[07:08] <surgy> opening firefox blows, videos are choppy.........
[07:09] <surgy> i mean with windows 2000 and all unnessisary services killed, it was pretty smooth
[07:09] <zoredache>  /join #php
[07:09] <surgy> me?
[07:10] <ere4si> surgy: have you installed you vid card drivers - that might be the vvid issue?
[07:10] <surgy> is it the same process as kubuntu?
[07:11] <ere4si> surgy: it should be   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    in a terminal
[07:11] <surgy> im talking about everything is slow, i was expecting it to be at least decently quick at web browsing
[07:11] <ere4si> but with fluxbuntu who knows
[07:12] <t3hwiz0rd> how can i tell what terminal app is used by the one in my Accessories window? cos its clearly not xterm
[07:12] <ere4si> surgy: I read a while ago that fluxbuntu had some issues with hardware detection - tried asking in #fluxbuntu?
[07:13] <TheSheep> t3hwiz0rd: it's xfce4-terminal, you can read it in the help->about dialog
[07:13] <surgy> yeah that channel is pretty dead most of the time
[07:13] <t3hwiz0rd> ahhh
[07:13] <ere4si> t3hwiz0rd: using xubuntu? - it is xfce4-terminal
[07:13] <t3hwiz0rd> ere4si: yeah, im using kubuntu with xfce on it
[07:13] <t3hwiz0rd> now, how do i set it up to start with blank sessions only
[07:14] <TheSheep> blank sessions?
[07:14] <ere4si> t3hwiz0rd: using xfce or xubuntu-desktop?
[07:14] <t3hwiz0rd> ]like new sessions
[07:15] <t3hwiz0rd> right now it restores my session
[07:15] <t3hwiz0rd> i dont want that
[07:17] <TheSheep> t3hwiz0rd: just close everything and check the 'save my session' checkbox when logging out, then uncheck it the next time
[07:17] <t3hwiz0rd> theres no way to just start new sessions?? lol
[07:17] <TheSheep> you can also delete everything from the ~/.cache/sessions directory
[07:18] <TheSheep> xfce's sessions are kind of nonfunctional :/
[07:19] <t3hwiz0rd> i mean i know its quick on its logins
[07:19] <t3hwiz0rd> and signifcantly lighter on loads than kde was
[07:22] <t3hwiz0rd> okay one last question
[07:22] <t3hwiz0rd> where do i put icon themes?
[07:23] <ere4si> t3hwiz0rd: ~/.icons
[07:23] <t3hwiz0rd> odd, no such folder
[07:24] <ere4si> t3hwiz0rd: you can make it
[09:20] <hi365> where are the settings for things like screensaver and power management saved?
[09:57] <t3hwiz0rd> rawr
[09:58] <t3hwiz0rd> xubuntu is giving me aq few buggies
[10:15] <hi365> where are the settings for things like screensaver and power management saved?
[12:46] <zoobox> hello
[12:47] <zoobox> how do the security work in xubuntu? how is it verified that packages downloaded with synaptic or other packagemanager is not hacked by a man-in-the-middle attack?
[12:48] <TheSheep> zoobox: through a ssl key
[12:49] <TheSheep> zoobox: you can see what keys you have installed in system->package sources
[12:51] <zoobox> TheSheep: aha. those two.. 437D05B5 and FBB75451 ?
[12:53] <TheSheep> yes
[12:57] <zoobox> but if somethings, say some advanced evil backdoorimplementing program that accesses the ext3-partition when I run WinXP last time, modifies those (and/or other things in ubuntu) then I can't really know... right?
[12:59] <ablomen> zoobox, no pc is a 100% safe
[13:00] <TheSheep> zoobox: you can verify them every time after you run malicious backdoorimplementing programs
[13:00] <ablomen> TheSheep, lol
[13:00] <TheSheep> zoobox: but if you want security, run windows in a virtual machine
[13:01] <TheSheep> zoobox: btw, if the program has free access to your drive, it can do much worse things than modifying the keys
[13:04] <zoobox> hmm...
[13:06] <zoobox> yeah I guess so. since I do run multiple operating systems that can write to my linux partitions .
[13:08] <zoobox> but even without those, I bet that some motivated hacker that wants to translate my linux-installation to a spambot or something probably can fool me to enter my sudo password when I should not :-)
[13:21] <TheSheep> yeah, there are insecure spots at the edges
[13:21] <TheSheep> it's always at the connection
[13:21] <TheSheep> between the human and the machine or between two machines (or two operating systems)
[13:26] <kripz> Today i was at uni and network manager authed to the wireless network, got an ip/dns/default route but i was unable to access the internet or the intranet. I couldnt even ping the dns/default route, what could of caused this?
[14:17] <jcgrv> Hello. I added successfully my Epson Stylus C84 printer to Xubuntu. I see it, but I can't print anything. Jobs get submitted and marked as completed but the printer doesn't do anything.
[14:17] <jcgrv> The same printer works fine from Windows 2000
[14:31] <yotux> have a question about Xubuntu
[14:32] <yotux> I currently use ubuntu, if I install Xubuntu will my install of Ubuntu slow down Xubuntu?
[14:32] <yotux> I am looking for a lightweight GUI XFCE I think will do this
[14:33] <jcgrv> yotux: no, you will just be able to choose which desktop environment you want to use at login time, and the corresponding libraries will be loaded.
[14:34] <yotux> ok so I am understaning that the libs from Gnome are loaded after boot
[14:34] <yotux> I have used KDE & Gnome
[14:35] <yotux> so I know what you are talking about when you say choose X window manager
[14:49] <jcgrv> Both Gnome & Xfce use GTK+ as the toolkit, so some libraries will be shared. I like better Xfce, it seems faster, but I also like the way it looks.
[14:49] <jcgrv> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments
[15:03] <jcgrv> I added successfully my Epson Stylus C84 printer to Xubuntu. I see it, but I can't print anything. Jobs get submitted and marked as completed but the printer doesn't do anything.
[15:03] <jcgrv> The same printer works fine from Windows 2000
[15:15] <jcgrv>  Success. Uninstalled it and reinstalled it
[15:18] <mnemoc> hi, should i do anything to turn a 8.04 beta installation into a 8.04 final beside normal updates?
[15:19] <mnemoc> my browser still firefox 3b5 :\
[15:21] <ablomen> mnemoc, there is no final firefox 3 yet
[15:22] <ablomen> so it will stay 3b5 until that comes out and is packaged etc
[15:22] <mnemoc> ablomen: ah, ok... i thought it was old as the google toolbar refused to install
[15:22] <ablomen> nah a lot of extentions dont work yet
[15:23] <ablomen> the only ones that i got to work where from the ubuntu repo's
[15:23] <ablomen> (tools->addons->get ubuntu extentions)
[15:23] <mnemoc> thanks :)
[15:23] <ablomen> np :)
[15:28] <t3hwiz0rd> xubuntu wont put my monitor to sleep :-\
[16:58] <kabam> Hi, I'm hoping someone can help me.  I am using Xubuntu on a Sony Laptop. Gutsy worked fine, Hardy is having an issue with the scroll wheel on my trackpad.  If I scroll up or down, it just keeps scrolling. It will switch my desktops, scroll through tabs, etc etc.  The only reference I have found to this problem is the comment here: http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/?p=533#comment-118007  Does anyone have any ideas?
[16:58] <kabam> I booted on to the gutsy live cd and it doesn't do it, but it does on hardy.
[17:05] <t3hwiz0rd> does xfce not have an autoprompt for hardware? like usb drives?
[17:09] <zoredache> t3hwiz0rd: assuming a standard install and your usb + drive + filesystem on the drive is supported. then xubuntu should automatically mount your usb drive when you insert it
[17:10] <kabam> does anyone have any ideas?
[17:11] <gabkdlly> kabam: hi
[17:11] <zoredache> kabam: you could reconfigure xorg and set your mouse to a generic two button mouse
[17:12] <kabam> hi gadklly
[17:12] <kabam> zoredache, I'd much rather get it working properly
[17:12] <gabkdlly> kabam: since you are not the only one with this problem it is unlikely that it is hardware, particularly since you say it is fine in gutsy
[17:13] <gabkdlly> kabam: did you check whether there is a bug filed about it on launchpad?
[17:13] <kabam> Launchpad?
[17:13] <zoredache> !launchpad
[17:17] <kabam> none that I can find about this specific issue
[17:47] <gabkdlly> kabam: please consider filing a bug of your own
[18:02] <kabam> I'm trying to....I think I'll have it up in a few minutes.  I have to keep restarting to stop it from scrolling :)  I am hoping you would have a look at it to make sure it looks ok?
[18:05] <Deniz_Ogut> Hello; is there anybody using Xubuntu 8.04/Turkish locale? I want to discuss a problem briefly.
[18:32] <kabam> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-mouse/+bug/230391 Does this look ok; is there any other information I should provide?
[18:42] <jarnos> How do you get an instant screenshot by a shortcut key?
[19:00] <jarnos> Can you do it by xwd?
[19:31] <nikin> hy.. i am using xubuntu but i want to use fluxbox... i made according .xinitrc file to use with startx, but this way NetworkManager does not work.. neither the authentication needed for network-admin and users-admin
[19:31] <nikin> can anyone help what i want to change
[19:31] <nikin> -want +have
[19:48] <nikin> re
[19:48] <nikin> When does NetworkManager start? durning the booting/login process?
[19:48] <nikin> and the apparmor?
[19:55] <zoredache> I believe net start is on of the autostarted applications  look in the applications settings menu
[19:55] <nikin> only nm-applet starts then
[19:55] <nikin> my problem is that i waant to use fluxbox insteaad
[19:56] <nikin> but apparmor and NetworkManager does not start..
[19:58] <nikin> so i have no Network Manager.. nor Network-admin
[19:58] <nikin> brb
[20:39] <L0GG3D> hi
[20:40] <L0GG3D> i have problems installing beryl on xubuntu can any one help me?
[20:55] <TheSheep> !compiz
[20:58] <jarnos> Why I can not use Alt+SysRq as a shortcut key in Xfce?
[21:05] <TheSheep> jarnos: becouse ubuntu kernel uses it as a magic key sequence for directly contrllng kernel
[21:06] <TheSheep> jarnos: switch to text mode for a moment and try pressing alt+sysrq+tab
[21:07] <jarnos> TheSheep: Why would I try it?
[21:08] <jarnos> TheSheep: Anyway there should be some kind of notification about it in Keyboard preferences.
[21:08] <TheSheep> jarnos: to see what you can do with it
[21:08] <TheSheep> !bugs | jarnos
[21:09] <TheSheep> jarnos: but there is no way to check it, and you can compile your own kernel...
[21:10] <jarnos> TheSheep: Is there some documentation about that key magic controlling kernel?
[21:10] <TheSheep> jarnos: sure, google should know it
[21:11] <TheSheep> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[21:27] <michel_> how can you change the source list?
[21:31] <slider2800> greets all
[21:31] <slider2800> can someone help me with Cron?
[21:32] <slider2800> i'm trying to set up my computer as an alarm clock, starting VLC playing a streamed radio, but somehow it won't work.
[21:32] <slider2800> cron that is
[21:34] <slider2800> i even seem to get everything right with crontab, yet at the give time i get nothing.
[21:35] <slider2800> ookay. i try another channel then.
[21:36] <TheSheep> slider2800: I think there is a panel plugin that does that
[21:36] <slider2800> panel plugin?
[21:36] <slider2800> hmm.
[21:36] <slider2800> never checked that
[21:36] <TheSheep> slider2800: the problem with vlc might be that it needs to be started in X
[21:37] <slider2800> i even tried with running a bash script that starts vlc and some other things
[21:37] <slider2800> but nothing seem to work
[21:38] <slider2800> also something like this : 0 6 * * *      notify-send -u normal -i gtk-info -t 600000 "ALARM CLOCK ENGAGED" "Good morning."