[02:36] <gnube> MoonRanger, You can definitely get debian on that machine and maybe apt-get ubuntu
[02:36] <gnomefreak> MoonRanger,  more than likely X will lag its butt off
[02:36] <MoonRanger> ok .
[02:36] <gnube> But is 64meg enough to make a usable computer?
[02:37] <gnube> with a graphical interface?
[02:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes, but it's slow
[02:37] <muep> gnube: yes
[02:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> whaterver you use
[02:37] <gnomefreak> never tried it
[02:37] <Absenth> gnomefreak, the instructions include building the IPW2200 driver, I assume by the date, and the fact my IPW2200 works on WEP I can skip to the part about the WPA_Supplicant?
[02:37] <muep> gnube: try damnsmalllinux
[02:37] <teroedni> gnube:Yes
[02:37] <gnomefreak> Absenth, i dont use wireless never have
[02:37] <kyncani> X will eat about 20 Mb RAM
[02:37] <gnube> muep; But will it have a GUI?
[02:38] <muep> gnube: yes
[02:38] <gnube> wow
[02:38] <gnomefreak> doesnt ubuntu recommend 126 ram?
[02:38] <muep> gnube: it's easy to use
[02:38] <Absenth> anyone else?   the instructions linked by ubotu include building the IPW2200 driver, I assume by the date, and the fact my IPW2200 works on WEP I can skip to the part about the WPA_Supplicant?
[02:38] <MoonRanger> whats XFCE
[02:38] <MoonRanger> and is it easy to install etc ..
[02:38] <gnomefreak> MoonRanger, sudo apt-get xubuntu-desktop :)
[02:38] <teroedni> gnube:It is possible to run grapical on 4mb:D
[02:38] <Absenth> MoonRanger: The best Desktop manager ever imho....  on ubuntu sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:38] <muep> gnube: I just ran damnsmall today on a box with 32 MB RAM and 200 MHz intel cpu
[02:38] <gnube> muep; I am not really interested in using it myself, someone else here wants to know if it is doable with ubuntu.
[02:38] <gnomefreak> opps
[02:38] <gnomefreak> install
[02:38] <kyncani> MoonRanger: as easy as installinge package xfce4
[02:39] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:39] <gnube> muep, But I have heard some great things about damnsmalllinux.
[02:39] <muep> gnube: the same it doable on ubuntu but it takes more effort to do
[02:39] <muep> gnube: it takes only one cd to try it, as it's a livecd
[02:40] <gnube> ah, good point.
[02:40] <SAM_theman> guys..me and KDE have been going out for a while...
[02:40] <phanter> I now have: "username=USER,password=PASS,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777" in my fstab as options for a smb drive, but I still do not have any rights
[02:40] <phanter> what am I doing wrong?
[02:40] <SAM_theman> So i ask it will it marry me
[02:41] <SAM_theman> it says YEs
[02:41] <SAM_theman> just asking can u come to my wedding
[02:41] <MoonRanger> i do a sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, and i get the following error  E: Invalid operation xubuntu-desktop
[02:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol SAM_theman
[02:41] <SAM_theman> :D
[02:41] <gnube> phanter, Are you mounting a FAT32 or NTFS disk?
[02:41] <SAM_theman> Kde  3.5 kicks ass
[02:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> MoonRanger: sure you did install?
[02:41] <DewDude> MoonRanger, it's ubuntu-desktop
[02:41] <DewDude> not xubuntu-desktop
[02:42] <DewDude> or did it change?
[02:42] <pm> kde 3.5 SUCKS!
[02:42] <smo> DewDude,they're different packages for different things.  I believe xubuntu is xfce-based
[02:42] <phanter> gn0me, actually... I think it is  Debian server that shares over the SMB protocol so my Windows friends can use it. I don't know, but I'll try to find out
[02:42] <DewDude> ahhhh
[02:42] <adrianoc> please, somebody help-me, i install LTSP, but in teminral say this: <IP_ADDRESS> not responding, still tryng
[02:42] <DewDude> ok
[02:42] <DewDude> sorry
[02:43] <pm> i switched back to kde 3.4.3, i'm dissappointed with 3.5
[02:43] <MoonRanger> yeah i copy and pasted the line
[02:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> adrianoc: need more info
[02:43] <muep> gnube: if you still do it with ubuntu, I would recommend the use of fluxbox instead of xfce, as it is even lighter, but that is a matter of taste
[02:43] <gnube> phanter, Do find out because you need to know if you are exporting your debian machine or if you want to mount a windoes disk.
[02:43] <emanuelez> pm: what's wrong with 3.5?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> pm, whats wrong with 3.5?
[02:43] <phanter> it is a debian machine (but I do not have control over that machine)
[02:43] <SAM_theman> whats wrong with 3.5
[02:43] <SAM_theman> ?? i am on it
[02:43] <muep> pm: what's wrong with 3.5?
[02:43] <gnube> muep, Yeah, I am running debian right now and that is fine, it was someone else here who wanted to do it with ubuntu.
[02:43] <psurani> psurani@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:43] <psurani> Reading package lists... Done
[02:43] <psurani> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:43] <psurani> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[02:44] <psurani> pls help
[02:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> you don't have main enabled
[02:44] <SAM_theman> its alsome
[02:44] <gnomefreak> psurani,  do you have universe repo enabled?
[02:44] <SAM_theman> every thing works
[02:44] <smo> So far, I've found choice of applications is more of a barrier than wm.  evolution is close to impossible on my 32Mb laptop, regardless of gnome vs twm
[02:44] <psurani> how ?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> main yeah damn sorry
[02:44] <pm> too many quetsions :)
[02:44] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell psurani about repositories
[02:44] <pm> in kde 3.5 kwin crashes every 10-15 minutes
[02:45] <SAM_theman> let me try it
[02:45] <Ng> smo: there are other email clients available in the repositories
[02:45] <adrianoc> Kamping_Kaiser: in the terminal it is repeating, "not responding, still tryng". This happens, when in lts.conf i leave USE_NFS_SWAP = Y
[02:45] <Ng> smo: typically there will be lightweight versions of most types of app
[02:45] <SAM_theman> kwin: unable to claim manager selection, another wm running? (try using --replace)
[02:45] <SAM_theman> samuelp@BlackHawk:
[02:45] <pm> besides there aren't any revolutionary changes compared to 3.4.3 :)
[02:45] <pm> correct me if i'm wrong
[02:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> adrianoc: so your trying to use nfs for the swap partition, and the client cant see the computer you want to have the swap on
[02:46] <smo> Ng, I'm aware, I just don't think weighing up the various window managers is going to solve someone's problems on a lomem machine (altho I will take suggestions for a lightweight gui browser :)
[02:46] <muep> gnube: to me it seems that the biggest problem is that many essential GUI-apps , like firefox, are too heavy to run on old hardware
[02:46] <Ng> smo: fair enough :)
[02:46] <Ng> smo: links2 -g ;)
[02:46] <gnomefreak> links2 -g
[02:46] <gnube> muep, yep, apps are big these days.
[02:46] <MoonRanger> now how do i switch to xfce .. or do i have to logoff and relog back in
[02:47] <kyncani> MoonRanger: log off, look at the "session" button
[02:47] <gnomefreak> MoonRanger,  log out and log into xfce where it says sessions
[02:47] <MoonRanger> ok ..
[02:47] <adrianoc> Kamping_Kaiser: but it creates, see you: rw-------  1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-12-21 11:21 <IP_ADDRESS>.swap
[02:47] <No2117> Someday, there will be a news article called 'Google saved my life' Because indirectly, it has. (Being that GRUB is corrupt and my business work is on Ubuntu)
[02:48] <SAM_theman> ok wtf was that??
[02:48] <SAM_theman> kwin
[02:48] <pm> what is /opt folder for?
[02:48] <gnomefreak> google is being sued :(
[02:48] <DewDude> google knows everything
[02:48] <gnomefreak> for 5 mill.
[02:48] <adrianoc> in boot from the terminal, it say: createing swap until it arrive in 31%
[02:48] <kotton> newbie here, trying to install yahoo messenger and am just not getting it. running ubuntu. have read the forums and some links to installations but not working,
[02:48] <DewDude> why?
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> pm it used to be where you installed stuff you wanted
[02:49] <phanter> gnube, it is a ntfs disk I think. Do you know what I have to change in the fstab to get some rights?
[02:49] <SAM_theman> tell me guys tell if this looks sexy
[02:49] <SAM_theman> http://kde-look.org/content/pre1/28476-1.jpg
[02:49] <gnomefreak> something about ads
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> now it's not used, in favor of /usr/local
[02:49] <kyncani> google is associating with aol :|
[02:49] <DewDude> oooh, i can answer that phanter
[02:49] <adrianoc> Kamping_Kaiser: in boot from ther termina, it say: creating swap until it arrive in 31%
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> adrianoc: hm. i havent used it, so i don't know what should be happening
[02:50] <pm> Kamping_Kaiser, thanks :>
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:50] <tRSS> question: How can I disable X? I just don't want it to run at all
[02:50] <Nomikos> anyone quick pointers on how to have samba ask for and accept user/pass, so that i can mount shares as the owner?
[02:50] <DewDude> you should have defaults,umask=0222 for options
[02:50] <gnomefreak> companies pay google for each click on the ads and google was suposedly having invaled clicks or something like that
[02:50] <Nomikos> not getting this to work at *all* :-/
[02:50] <adrianoc> Kamping_Kaiser: ok, thanks
[02:50] <gnube> phanter, I do not think you can write to NTFS disks IIRC
[02:50] <DewDude> no
[02:51] <phanter> DewDude, Please shoot... I am kind of looking for it ;-)
[02:51] <DewDude> for writing ntfs discs...you can't
[02:51] <DewDude> you don't want to
[02:51] <DewDude> it's a BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD idea
[02:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> tRSS: remove the symlinks from /etc/, but that's not healthy, there's a tool to do it
[02:51] <gnube> phanter, Yeah, you cannot write to NTFS disks
[02:51] <DewDude> make a vfat partition to move files and leave XP for maintaining the contents of NTFS drives
[02:51] <phanter> gnube, well, I actually already did it (I always do), but now I want to put that line in the fstab instead of copying it all the time into the console
[02:51] <knigge852> hallo
[02:52] <tRSS> Kamping_Kaiser: do you remember the tool?
[02:52] <gnube> phanter, are you sure it is a NTFS disk?
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> tRSS: update-rc.d (just looked it up)
[02:52] <DewDude> ?
[02:52] <gnube> phanter, Or is it FAT32?
[02:52] <DewDude> you wrote to it?
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> `update-rc.d -r x `or similar
[02:52] <knigge852> are there german users?
[02:52] <tRSS> Kampin_Kaiser: Thanks man!
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> np mate
[02:52] <gnube> knigge852, try ubuntu-de
[02:52] <kotton> QUESTION: yahoo messenger
[02:53] <DewDude> ANSWER: GAIM
[02:53] <gnube> kotton, answerL GAIM
[02:53] <gnube> You beat DewDude
[02:53] <DewDude> ???
[02:53] <pm> is suse better than ubuntu?
[02:53] <DewDude> not by my clock
[02:53] <kotton> gaim doesn't appear to have sound/voice
[02:53] <knigge852> thanks gnube
[02:53] <phanter> gnube, well I just looked it up in a windows machine ()oI  just looked how it mounted itk!
[02:53] <gnube> You beat me DewDude is what <I meant to say
[02:53] <gnube> knigge852, No problem.
[02:53] <DewDude> heh, ok
[02:54] <gnube> phanter, Mounting and writing are different things.
[02:54] <kyncani> pm: from memory, better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better".
[02:54] <kyncani> pm: or it's a troll
[02:54] <DewDude> heh, sweet...xchat logs seconds in time stamps
[02:55] <gnomefreak> not to mention we are kinda biased
[02:55] <phanter> I know. But I used to just mount it by hand and I did not have trouble riting to it back then. The problem jus occurs because I want the disk to be in the fstab
[02:55] <taojah> hello can someone explain to me how to open tar.gz files  please ??  i have no idea what to with them
[02:55] <pm> i mean is it more  stable, more polished ?
[02:55] <Ng> taojah: you can use Archive Manager from Applications->Accessories
[02:55] <gnube> taojah, do this:
[02:55] <gnomefreak> taojah,  you have to compile it
[02:55] <mjr> taojah, with file-roller (gui) or tar xzf file.tar.gz (cli)
[02:55] <DewDude> taojah: do you just want to decompress?
[02:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> pm, it uses rpm (so it looses ;D)
[02:55] <DewDude> like...to build source code
[02:55] <taojah> yes
[02:55] <gnube> toajah, gunzip *.gz
[02:56] <taojah> its a help file
[02:56] <gnube> taojah, the tar xf *.tar
[02:56] <taojah> lol
[02:56] <pm> whyit looses? :>
[02:56] <taojah> what]
[02:56] <taojah> ?
[02:56] <taojah> i have no idea
[02:56] <DewDude> tar -zxf generally will unzip most tarballs
[02:56] <taojah> do i right click and save it to my desktop
[02:56] <phanter> gnube, but what if it was fat32, how would I have to do it then?
[02:56] <taojah> then what
[02:56] <gnube> that is if it is in tgz format.
[02:56] <Ng> taojah: double click on it
[02:56] <taojah> tar.gz
[02:57] <Ng> taojah: it'll open it in the Archive Manager and you can extract it somewhere, or examine the files
[02:57] <DewDude> he said tar.gz
[02:57] <gnube> phanter, You would have to have the user in Windows be the same user in Linux (fstab)
[02:57] <DewDude> that's a gzipped tarball
[02:57] <DewDude> zxvf works
[02:57] <gnube> Yeah, but that is different from tar.gz
[02:57] <phanter> gnube, but all that is done... I think it is strange
[02:57] <Ng> gnube: tgz and tar.gz are identical
[02:58] <SAM_theman> this is a stupid question how do i install .deb files
[02:58] <taojah> DEwDude so i should save it to desktop and then zxvf in console?
[02:58] <Ng> SAM_theman: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[02:58] <gnube> I though foo.tar.gz had to be unzipped first?
[02:58] <gnomefreak> bz is the one thats different
[02:58] <gnube> My mistake.
[02:58] <DewDude> yeah
[02:58] <DewDude> save to your desktop
[02:58] <Ng> gnube: tar can handle gzip or bzip2'd files
[02:58] <gnube> Ng, I know but I tought only in tgz format.
[02:58] <taojah> ok
[02:58] <SAM_theman> thank U
[02:58] <DewDude> then go into console...type tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz
[02:58] <gnube> not in tar.gz format.
[02:58] <taojah> then what to i type in console ?
[02:58] <taojah> k
[02:59] <Ng> gnube: nope, they're the same :)
[02:59] <gnomefreak> !compile
[02:59] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[02:59] <gnube> taojah, gunzip foo.tar.gz
[02:59] <taojah> lol no
[02:59] <CarinArr> hey, i have a quick question.. i've installed the latest kernel, but for some reason it doesn't like the nvidia drivers, so i'm falling back on 2.6.12-9 atm.. i need to isntall the kernel headers for that, but they don't come up in synaptic, only the latest ones are there
[02:59] <taojah> im doing what deqwdude says
[02:59] <gnube> or rather; # tar zxvf package.tar.gz
[02:59] <taojah> heh
[02:59] <taojah> :p
[02:59] <DewDude> yeah, if you want to compile.... sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:59] <taojah> too many people saying diff things
[02:59] <CarinArr> so, how can i install the older kernel headers
[02:59] <gnomefreak> what program are you trying to install?
[03:00] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/473012
[03:00] <SAM_theman> help!!!
[03:00] <CarinArr> gnomefreak, me?
[03:00] <gnomefreak> who ever asked about the tar
[03:00] <CarinArr> oh
[03:00] <CarinArr> not me
[03:00] <CarinArr> ;)
[03:00] <phanter> is there anybody who knows hot to mount a smb disk so you have writing access?
[03:00] <chulin> helloooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuu
[03:01] <chulin> al fin dentro de ubuntu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:01] <Ng> phanter: there are uid and gid options you can specify for the mount so it mounts as owned by your user
[03:01] <sirex> is thera a gnome trick, that when I press on any window Alt+LeftMouseButton, then this window can be moved..
[03:01] <CarinArr> sirex, isn't that default behaviour?
[03:02] <chulin> alguien de Chile?????????
[03:02] <phanter> Ng, the dir_mode and folder_mode are both 0777 (= all rights for everybody)
[03:02] <sirex> CarinArr: duno, on my 5.04 ubuntu it is, and on other machine with 5.10 there is no this behaviour..
[03:02] <allison_1984> Can anyone tell me..how do I find out if my firewall is on on Ubuntu ? thanks
[03:02] <chulin> hi'
[03:03] <Ng> phanter: are you using cifs or smbfs as the filesystem type? the _mode ones are for cifs
[03:03] <chulin> alguien de CHILE CHILE CHILE??????????
[03:03] <_jason> allison_1984, you can see the rules that are set with 'sudo iptables -L'
[03:03] <chulin> ah, pelotas
[03:03] <Ng> chulin: this is an english speaking channel
[03:03] <_jason> !es
[03:03] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:03] <chulin> ok
[03:03] <chulin> dont worry
[03:04] <chulin> excuse me
[03:04] <chulin> bon your
[03:04] <tmabouma> hello
[03:04] <chulin> bulet tu chek a la yok de le messe
[03:04] <chulin> hello
[03:04] <chulin> gringolandia
[03:04] <chulin> ??
[03:04] <SAM_theman> Configuring sources...
[03:04] <SAM_theman> Moved to /tmp/kompile-tmp/kmetabar-0.2-beta2
[03:04] <SAM_theman> Configuring sources...
[03:04] <SAM_theman> /bin/sh configure
[03:04] <SAM_theman> /bin/sh: configure: No such file or directory
[03:04] <SAM_theman> Error during sources configuration. Installation aborted!
[03:05] <Ng> SAM_theman: please use a pastebin :)
[03:05] <phanter> Ng, I am using cifs (because somebody told me that was better). What do you think?
[03:05] <SAM_theman> Yes Sir,
[03:05] <chulin> eeeeeeee
[03:05] <chulin> bye
[03:05] <chulin> thanks!
[03:05] <allison_1984> jason# what output should I be getting then ?
[03:05] <lowman62> harrow woom :P```
[03:05] <tmabouma> je veux savoir comment instal
[03:05] <Ng> phanter: cifs is newer, and necessary if you're connecting to something like windows server 2003, but you probably still want to look at the uid and gid options
[03:06] <_newbie_> I have some problems open a file i have on a CD 'cause (K)ubuntu doesn't show the swedish letters in filename correctly, anyone who can help me out with this?
[03:06] <_jason> allison_1984, nothing, ubuntu has no services running by default.  A firewall is pointless on a default install of ubuntu
[03:07] <_jason> allison_1984, if you absolutely feel the need to set it up and don't want to use iptables commandline, firestart is a nice gui that is available in the repos.  But with no services running there really is no point.
[03:07] <_jason> allison_1984, 'firestarter' not 'firestart', it's in the repos
[03:07] <allison_1984> I did install firestart sometime ago
[03:08] <allison_1984> just wondering if it is activated
[03:08] <_jason> allison_1984, did you see a bunch of rules popup when you did 'sudo iptables -L'?
[03:08] <allison_1984> jason # yea
[03:08] <pm> is it really pointless?
[03:08] <_jason> allison_1984, then you are good to go
[03:09] <_jason> pm, if you have nothing listening on any ports then a firewall isn't going to do anything
[03:09] <allison_1984> jason # thing is I used aotumatix to get the firestart....and have now changed the source links......
[03:09] <_jason> allison_1984, source links?
[03:10] <allison_1984> I mean the update links.....websites
[03:10] <rosen> Hi guys, what program can I use to watch a movie that is compressed as a *.img file ?
[03:10] <rosen> (and how)
[03:11] <_jason> allison_1984, firestarter is just a gui frontend for iptables.  When you install it, it sets up some rules.  The actual firestarter application doesn't need to be running.  Iptables is the one blocking things, etc.  You can use the gui to edit the rules and then close it again but iptables will still be working.
[03:11] <mam0> hi to all
[03:11] <mam0> one info...
[03:11] <allison_1984> jason # alright.....thanks :)
[03:12] <mam0> how can I disable dhcp client on boot on ubuntu 5.10
[03:12] <mam0> I would like to call it on demand depending on which network I am connected to
[03:12] <pm> _jason, so it might be enough to run firestarter just once?
[03:13] <dooglus> mam0: edit /etc/network/interfaces and take out the "auto" line
[03:13] <rosen> heya dooglus
[03:13] <dooglus> pm: it's enough to never run it
[03:13] <dooglus> hi rosen.  how's things?
[03:13] <_jason> pm, you don't need to run it all if you haven't setup any services like ssh, etc.
[03:13] <rosen> dooglus, notice how I havent really asked questions as of late ? ;)
[03:13] <rosen> dooglus, all is fine and dandy :D
[03:13] <dooglus> rosen: you've not been here of late have you?
[03:14] <rosen> dooglus, oh yes I have ... just looking in and browsing through the advices to see if there was something worth trying out
[03:14] <dooglus> _jason: if you've set up a service like ssh, wouldn't that be because you wanted people to connect to the ssh port?  and if so, why would you then block that port with a firewall?
[03:14] <rosen> dooglus, like Xorg.. now that was a nice one to reconfigure !
[03:15] <karlan> i cant get my sound to work in VLC Media Player. It works in beep-media-player, so it has to be some option i have missed. someone?
[03:15] <_jason> dooglus, you may want to control who connects using the firewall?
[03:15] <dooglus> _jason: fair enough.
[03:16] <_jason> dooglus, to be honest I don't really know :), but if I see someone running a dictionary attack I just block him for a couple of hours
[03:17] <SAM_theman> samuelp@BlackHawk:~/Borealis$ su -p
[03:17] <SAM_theman> Password:
[03:17] <SAM_theman> su: Authentication failure
[03:17] <SAM_theman> Sorry.
[03:17] <SAM_theman> ?
[03:17] <SAM_theman> !tell kompile
[03:18] <SAM_theman> !tell su -p
[03:18] <rosen> so :) Is there any way to see a *.img movie before it's burned ? ... would like to check out the quality before I decide to waste a dvd on it ;)
[03:19] <dooglus> rosen: did you try "mplayer <file.img>" ?
[03:19] <raphink> or mount -o
[03:19] <gnomefreak> anyone know of an email that can accept .exe files?
[03:19] <rosen> dooglus, still waiting for it to extract but I seem to remember it giving me a hard time last time I tried
[03:20] <dooglus> rosen: I know mplayer plays .bin files (as in nero's cue/bin format)
[03:20] <dooglus> rosen: and I think it plays .img too - but I might be wrong
[03:20] <rosen> dooglus, oh, it may have been Xine I tried with last time I'm not sure
[03:21] <psurani> exit
[03:21] <psurani> quit
[03:23] <Okron1k> hey there
[03:23] <Okron1k> i am in need of some assistance
[03:24] <Okron1k> it's probably something very simple... but i'm not sure myself.
[03:25] <Okron1k> i am trying linux for the first time... and i downloaded the live cd of ubuntu... everything goes fine up until where it's loading.. then at some point my monitor says it can't display this mode
[03:25] <Okron1k> if you'd like i can get the exact messege and approximately when it happens
[03:25] <gnube> Okron1k, hmm. Do you have an older monitor?
[03:25] <Okron1k> no.. it's a brand new dell 2405fpw
[03:26] <gnube> Okron1k, Sounds like an X issue. . .
[03:26] <gnube> Okron1k, Is it a laptop?
[03:26] <Okron1k> during the boot i choose english, and the country and the keyboard... and after that at some point it gives me that messege
[03:26] <Okron1k> no sir.
[03:27] <Okron1k> i'm guessing it has something to do with my ati 9600xt... but i'm not sure.
[03:27] <Okron1k> which is why i am here now.
[03:28] <Okron1k> currently i'm on my mac mini... on the same monitor... i am using the live cd on my pc.
[03:28] <gnube> Okron1k, what the heck is yourr ati blah blah
[03:29] <Okron1k> that's my video card
[03:29] <mp3guy> is there any program i can get to convert binary to text?
[03:29] <gnube> mp3guy, You can try od
[03:30] <cold> How do you reconfigure X on ubuntu?
[03:30] <Okron1k> any ideas gnube?
[03:30] <gnube> Okron1k, It may be your video card. Can you set the resolution on you video card?
[03:30] <gnube> Cold, which X are you using. Xorg or Xfree86?
[03:30] <Okron1k> i'm not sure... how would i go about trying. again i am brand new to linux
[03:30] <cold> xorg
[03:31] <mp3guy> gnube, od what?
[03:31] <Okron1k> another bit of information... after the screen goes out i do hear the ubuntu start up sound
[03:31] <Okron1k> but i just lose my visual
[03:31] <gnube> Okron1k, The thing is, I am not really sure what the issue is. I imagine that X has set the window resolution to be a certain size and your monitor does not support that.
[03:31] <cold> gnube I am using Xorg
[03:32] <gnube> Okron1k, Now you can adjust the monitor somehow, that would be the best way.
[03:32] <Okron1k> ok that definitely sounds like a possibility.
[03:32] <gnube> mp3guy, od
[03:32] <Okron1k> is there a command i can type to do so?
[03:32] <gnube> like this od -c your file
[03:32] <darker-shadow> hello everybody, i got a problem
[03:32] <mp3guy> gnube, what is od? two letters is hard to work from
[03:33] <darker-shadow> i can't access root
[03:33] <mp3guy> gnube, oh got you
[03:33] <gnube> mp3guy, cut and paste this command: # od -c file
[03:33] <gnube> replace the word file with your file's name.
[03:33] <_jason> darker-shadow, do you know about sudo and root in ubuntu?
[03:33] <darker-shadow> when am try this code line:"su root"
[03:34] <_jason> ubotu, tell darker-shadow about sudo
[03:34] <gnube> Ubunut has changed the UNIX way by not including a root password in their distro.
[03:34] <HighHopes> Hello folks! I recently installed Ubuntu Breezy 5.10 in an old laptop (Pentium II 233MHz) and I have an RT2500 802.11g PCMCIA wireless card plugged in. I wish I could install kernel modules to activate my card... How can I do that?
[03:34] <mp3guy> gnube, that printed out a load of the binary
[03:34] <darker-shadow> the pass wowrd of my user don't work on root, buit if i want to use sudo it's work
[03:34] <gnube> HighHopes, You need to make sure there is a drive for your card for linux.
[03:34] <Ng> darker-shadow: that's correct, by default the root user is disabled
[03:35] <Ng> darker-shadow: you can use sudo su though
[03:35] <darker-shadow> but run as root can't
[03:35] <gnube> mp3guy, That is octal you are looking at and some text.
[03:35] <HighHopes> gnube: yes, I know there is a driver because I used this card on Kanotix and Knoppix
[03:35] <mp3guy> gnube, yes, so how can i convert it to text?
[03:35] <gnube> HighHopes, Great, did you download the drive?
[03:35] <srborlongan> Uh, kumusta po?
[03:35] <srborlongan> Ignore me.
[03:35] <gnube> mp3guy, Did you use the -c switch?
[03:35] <mp3guy> yup
[03:36] <ice9> does anyone have chroot in here
[03:36] <gnube> mp3guy, DId you scroll through your entire file?
[03:36] <darker-shadow> _jason but he don't approve the pass word
[03:36] <gnube> and there was not text.
[03:36] <ice9> I need help with the /etc/fstab
[03:36] <darker-shadow> password*
[03:36] <HighHopes> gnube: nop... I have no network in that computer. For that I want to install that card... I wish I could get driver from Ubuntu CD... Is that possible?
[03:36] <gnube> darker-shadow, If you want to enable the root accoundxt do this;
[03:36] <_jason> darker-shadow, who doesn't?  try: 'sudo echo hi' and use your user password
[03:36] <gnube> # sudo passwd root
[03:36] <mp3guy> gnube, there was, but there was also aload of numbers and \'s
[03:36] <_jason> gnube, please explain sudo before suggesting that
[03:37] <gnube> enter your password and then type a new password for root.
[03:37] <_jason> gnube, there is a reason it's disabled
 # sudo passwd root
[03:37] <gnube> yep
[03:37] <darker-shadow> what this code line do?
[03:37] <gnube> People want me to tell you that you can trash your machine if you are not careful.
[03:37] <darker-shadow> change the root password?
[03:37] <gnube> But I presume you are an adult.
[03:37] <_jason> darker-shadow, read the page ubotu sent you then come back
[03:38] <gnube> _jason, Why won't you tell him how to do what he wants to do?
[03:38] <gnube> It is his computer.
[03:38] <_jason> gnube, i did
[03:38] <_jason> gnube, it's on that page
[03:38] <_jason> gnube, at least he can be a little informed before blindly pasting some command if he reads it
[03:39] <gnube> I presumed since he wanted to use the root account he was a little informed.
[03:39] <gnube> Why won't he use sudo?
[03:39] <aqua> hey everybody
[03:39] <darker-shadow> entering the link
[03:40] <_jason> gnube, he probably didn't know about it yet, that's why I think it's best to ask people to read that page
[03:40] <HighHopes> gnube: oh! sorry... Ubuntu detected my card! :-) Great! I saw that doing a "iwconfig"... I see "ra0".. Now I need to know how to configure ESSID, and those things to connect to my Access Point
[03:40] <aqua> i have a cd here ..trying to mount it... with the following command: sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdd /media/cdrom0
[03:40] <gnube> _jason, I am abivalent about that frankly.
[03:40] <aqua> and i'm getting the error mount: No medium found
[03:40] <lowman62> i don't get why someone would want to be logged in as root. I would think that would be a perfect way to break something on accident :P```
[03:40] <trappist> aqua: what kind of cd?
[03:40] <aqua> i just burned it with k3b
[03:40] <aqua> data cd
[03:41] <aqua> it has a avi movie on it
[03:41] <trappist> lowman62: it's not much harder to break stuff by accident with sudo
[03:41] <aqua> tried it on widows...works ok..
[03:41] <gnube> aqua, is cdrom in your fstab file?
[03:41] <Okron1k> how do i change the resolution before boot?
[03:41] <aqua> yes it is
[03:41] <phanter>  I now have: //<IP_ADDRESS>/aegee  /home/patrick/Wolga  cifs  users,rw,username=USER,password=PASS,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0; but still no rights
[03:41] <aqua> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[03:41] <aqua> thats from fstab
[03:41] <gnube> aqua, then try mount /media/cdrom0
[03:41] <ice9> if someone has chroot
[03:42] <ejofee> how do i run _from the command line, not from the menu_ the gui app which sets the network in ubuntu?
[03:42] <ice9> can I pls see there /etc/fsab
[03:42] <lowman62> trappist that is true...but it is just that small bit more that makes it even more capable of breaking something...like the human condition of forgetting :P```
[03:42] <aqua> gnube: ok, still get mount: No medium found
[03:42] <Ng> trappist: the difference being that if you have to do something with sudo you have more opportunity to spot your impending mistake
[03:42] <trappist> phanter: you don't need that stuff.  use uid=1000,umask=0
[03:42] <trappist> *shrug*
[03:42] <lira> are there any ppc/mac specialist around
[03:42] <lowman62> thank-you Ng ..I was looking for a short version LOL :P``
[03:42] <gnube> aqua, You are trying you read a DVD on a CDROM drive?
[03:43] <gnube> lira, Only for a short while, soon Mac will be Intel.
[03:43] <aqua> no, it is a cd that I just burned on this computer just 10 minutes ago
[03:43] <_newbie_> I have some problems open a file i have on a CD 'cause (K)ubuntu doesn't show the swedish letters in the filename correctly, anyone who can help me out with this?
[03:43] <gnube> aqua, Gotcha, that just sounds like a format error that I have ssen before.
[03:43] <jdub> dudes
[03:43] <jdub> new fridge poll
[03:44] <jdub> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/196
[03:44] <jdub> "where do you want us to go today?"
[03:44] <jdub> ;-)
[03:44] <lowman62> mac is going to pack intell inside???
[03:44] <aqua> gnube: ok....could you tell me how to get everything ok?
[03:44] <gnube> lowman62, Hello, where have you been?
[03:44] <lira> I know. but the boss took an old i-mac rev B out of the storage and he said - make it work or else... -
[03:44] <lowman62> on the darkside of the moon...where i live why?
[03:44] <gnube> lira, DId you install the PPC version of Ubuntu on it?
[03:44] <apokryphos> jdub: europe is gonna win hands-down
[03:45] <lira> I am planning to install ubuntu there once it is alive
[03:45] <gnube> lowman62, Just curious. I was only kidding with you. Yep, the Mac is moving to Intel, will be otu in 06.
[03:45] <lira> right now the computer seems to be dead
[03:45] <lowman62> <--is never afraid to ask the BIG STUPID questions :P``
[03:45] <gnube> aqua, That is the hard part. What are you using to read the fiell?
[03:45] <gnube> s/fiell/file/
[03:46] <lowman62> gnube: I have a sense of humor and I never take things to heart...am too lazy ZzzzZZZzzz :P```
[03:46] <darker-shadow> i readed that and now i have a few queastion
[03:46] <gnube> lira, after you plugged it in and turned it on, did you hear the chime?
[03:46] <darker-shadow> when i using this code line:
[03:46] <aqua> gnube: sorry, didn't get you. what do you mean what am I using to read it? i can't even mount it let alone read it
[03:46] <lira> no chime or video signal
[03:47] <rosen> hmm to mount an *.img to media/cdrom wouldnt this be the commandline ? sudo mount -t iso9660 filename.img /media/cdrom0
[03:47] <darker-shadow> "sudo -s" it's run the shell of root, what it's meen?
[03:47] <gnube> aqua, It may have been automatically mounted on the desktop, if not let me see what I can google.
[03:47] <Kaiser_Sleeps> rosen: add -o loop
[03:47] <gnube> lira, I am sorry for your loss.
[03:47] <aqua> nope, it wasn't mounted automatically to my surprise
[03:47] <darker-shadow> run as root or only the shell
[03:47] <rosen> Kaiser_Sleeps, so sudo mount -t -o iso9660 filename.img /media/cdrom0
[03:47] <darker-shadow> ??
[03:48] <gnube> darker-shadow, That means you will enter a root shell. A shell is what passes commands to the kernel.
[03:48] <trappist> rosen: forgot loop
[03:48] <rosen> aah lol ok I think I understand now ;P
[03:48] <ice9> what does the file /etc/fstab look like when chroot
[03:48] <lira> well, I am thinking it is a battery issue. this old green warrior was sleeping for years
[03:48] <gnube> darker-shadow, If you enter a root shell you have complete control over the machine.
[03:48] <darker-shadow> so it's not code line that i need
[03:49] <gnube> darker-shadow, If you make a mistake and enter a command that erases your hard disk then all of your data is gone forever.
[03:49] <gnube> UNIX is powerful.
[03:49] <darker-shadow> so i need this code line "sudo passwd root"
[03:49] <the_mr_bong_show> could some one help me i am trying to edit my mplayer.conf so the video can get biger but i cant seem to edit it i open it and i try to erease the zoom no to a zoom yes but i cant
[03:49] <phanter> users,rw,username=aegee,password=10kiss4u,uid=1000,umask=0 0 0, should this work
[03:49] <gnube> darker-shadow, Why do you want to be root?
[03:49] <trappist> the_mr_bong_show: try it in your ~/.mplayer/mplayer.conf
[03:50] <lowman62> the_mr_bong_show: what are you editing it with?
[03:50] <the_mr_bong_show> text edito
[03:50] <the_mr_bong_show> editor
[03:50] <darker-shadow> i have a problem install the script that allow the ubuntu connect the intrnet
[03:50] <phanter> trappist, I know have: users,rw,username=aegee,password=10kiss4u,uid=1000,umask=0 0 0, should thisawork or did I change the wrong thing?
[03:51] <lowman62> the_mr_bong_show: are you editing your local copy or the install dir copy?
[03:51] <Okron1k> gnube... i got a visua by change graphics from ati to vesa
[03:51] <trappist> phanter: that should work, but now we all know your username and password
[03:51] <gnube> Okron1k, w00t! That is good news.
[03:51] <darker-shadow> but with this lie of the "sudo passwd root" i don't the root password
[03:51] <the_mr_bong_show> the one thats in my ect folder
[03:51] <the_mr_bong_show> etc
[03:51] <lira> right now the company partially migrating to Ubuntu and the ubuntu for ppc was the chance to make that old mac alive again
[03:51] <darker-shadow> Enter your existing password
[03:51] <darker-shadow> Enter password for root
[03:51] <darker-shadow> Confirm password for root
[03:51] <aqua> gnube: any luck on the cause of this strange (for me) issue???
[03:51] <gnube> darker-shadow, yep, there it is!
[03:52] <darker-shadow> *Enter password for root i don't have root password
[03:52] <trappist> phanter: make a file with two lines, one that says username=whatever and another that says password=whatever, and in fstab instead of putting your username/password, say credentials=/path/to/that/file
[03:52] <lowman62> mr_the: try editing the one in your /home/yourprofile
[03:52] <phanter> trappist, stupid, me, but it is not accessable from inet... i don't care anyway :)... the problem is that it still does not work!
[03:52] <darker-shadow> that is the problem
[03:52] <trappist> phanter: define 'does not work'
[03:52] <lowman62> the_mr_bong_show: try editing the one in your /home/yourprofile
[03:52] <Okron1k> yes very good news :)
[03:53] <lira> cya guys
[03:53] <phanter> trappist, I still do not have any ritghts in that mount... no read or write rights
[03:53] <gnube> aqua, look at this
[03:53] <Okron1k> i will play with it some more
[03:53] <gnube> http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p10.htm
[03:53] <olicat> any idea if this tv device will work under linux, folks? http://www.johnlewis.com/Computing/Accessories/Peripherals/Computer+Cards/230153877/Product.aspx
[03:53] <the_mr_bong_show> its not there
[03:53] <trappist> phanter: did you umount and remount the filesystem?  also, while it's umounted, change the ownership of the directory to you
[03:53] <gnube> darker-shadow, First of all, you create the password right then, second, I doubt this will help you.
[03:54] <gnube> darker-shadow, How will being root help you connect to the internet?
[03:54] <trappist> olicat: most hauppauge wintv cards work in linux, but afaik not the usb ones
[03:54] <olicat> trappist, damn
[03:54] <gnube> You should be able to run the same script as sudo.
[03:54] <olicat> it's for a laptop
[03:54] <ice9> need help with chroot /etc/fstab file ?
[03:54] <olicat> if i put this one in my desktop: http://www.johnlewis.com/Computing/Accessories/Peripherals/Computer+Cards/230153886/Product.aspx
[03:54] <olicat> can i watch tv somehow with mylaptop over the network?
[03:55] <ice9> yes
[03:55] <ice9> iptv
[03:55] <ice9> mythtv
[03:55] <phanter> trappist, the dir has rights for everybody. In the mounting something goes wrong..I think
[03:55] <ice9> do a search
[03:55] <olicat> ice9, will do
[03:55] <aeon17x> !w32codecs
[03:55] <ice9> does anyone have chroot here
[03:55] <darker-shadow> gnube run as root allow me run and installed the script that allow the ubuntu to connect to the internet. with my user he can't write in some areas
[03:55] <olicat> any ideas if this device works though? i don't want to buy it and have a headache later :)
[03:56] <olicat> http://www.johnlewis.com/Computing/Accessories/Peripherals/Computer+Cards/230153886/Product.aspx
[03:56] <gnube> ice9, I would help you but I do not have that much experience with chroot. I think the path names are relative to the chrooted dir.
[03:56] <darker-shadow> on the partitions
[03:56] <darker-shadow> "/HOME"
[03:56] <Davey> who the hell buys network cards from John Lewis?
[03:56] <trappist> phanter: is your user uid 1000?
[03:56] <Davey> towels - sure; NICs, no.
[03:56] <ice9> yeah my /etc/fstab file is all screwed up
[03:56] <gnube> darker-shadow, Your user can write if you do the command "sudo" before the writing.
[03:57] <phanter> trappist, I want it to be readable for every user
[03:57] <gnube> darker-shadow, Like this: # sudo mkdir /HOME/directory
[03:58] <Hal9000> i have a tv tuner, the appropriate module gets loaded, but i need to pass an additional parameter to the module... where can i set this?
[03:59] <darker-shadow> but it's she existing
[03:59] <gnube> Hal9000, It depends on how you are running the module.
[03:59] <gnube> darker-shadow, What do you mean?
[03:59] <the_mr_bong_show> why cant i edit my conf with text editor
[03:59] <darker-shadow> he does can't write/create some folder/files
[03:59] <gnube> the_mr_bong_show, You may need to have write permissions
[03:59] <aeon17x> the_mr_bong_show: you're supposed to do it with root powers.
[04:00] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i get root powers
[04:00] <gnube> darker-shadow, Yes, that is right, not every user can write to every location.
[04:00] <nalioth> mr_lampe: you can edit with a text editor
[04:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell the_mr_bong_show about sudo
[04:00] <darker-shadow> when am run script as this" ./install ******
[04:00] <SAM_theman> is there a automatic startupprogramfor KDE ?
[04:00] <gnube> darker-shadow, But when they are in a directory that they cannot write to, they can use "sudo" and then they can write there.
[04:01] <gnube> darker-shadow, Do this instead: sudo ./install ******
[04:01] <darker-shadow> he can't create/write to some area, that is my main problem
[04:02] <gnube> darker-shadow, You can write EVERYWHERE with sudo.
[04:03] <darker-shadow> ok thanks
[04:03] <Hal9000> gnube: i don't know, ubuntu detects the hardware and loads the module automatically, it works but i get no audio... and have read i need to pass oss=1 to the module
[04:03] <gnube> darker-shadow, Good luck.
[04:04] <gnube> Hal9000, That is a bit vague for me. Are there no error messages? Does this tool have a log file somehwere?
[04:04] <gnube> Hal9000, Where are you loading the module? In the kernel?
[04:05] <gnube> If so there are kernel logs in /var/log/syslog
[04:05] <aqua> gnube: all of that sounds great but it didn't help me with my initial problem....that the cd that i just burned in k3b with an avi file ubuntu can't mount (and i know that the burning process was successful because i was able to access the file in windows on the same pc)
[04:05] <gnube> opps. Under ubuntu it is kern.log.
[04:05] <gnube> aqua, And the file is a CD?
[04:05] <gnube> That is to say you know the format of the file?
[04:06] <gnube>  And if so what is the format? A giant mp3?
[04:06] <aqua> gnube, the file is on the cd
[04:06] <Hal9000> gnube: i have no clue, it is already loaded when i boot the system... im using the default kernel... i didnt configure anything
[04:06] <gnube> is it an iso file? tar file?
[04:07] <gnube> Hal9000, First check the physical sources of volume control, like on the task bar and on the applications interface itself.
[04:07] <gnube> If you still get nothing you might want to ask in the Ubuntu forums.
[04:08] <SAM_theman> weres the command to chane the KDE look to mac
[04:08] <gnube> Hal9000, Specify some more information as well, like the name of the application, the type of file, which version of ubuntu you are using, anything useful.
[04:08] <gnube> SAM_theman, I suspect you mean change the destop theme?
[04:09] <SAM_theman> yes
[04:09] <bachstudies> hi everyone. I am having issues with two anti-virus programs (ClamAV and Bitdefender) and have searched google and program websites for info but no luck. Firstly, ClamAV is insistent that I have 0.87 and not 0.87.1 that I actually have installed and secondly whenever I try to update bitdefender by using 'sudo bdc -update' i always get a md5 check failed error on a random updated file. Any suggestions?
[04:09] <Hal9000> gnube: ubuntu 5.10, kernel 2.6.15 from dapper (my tv card is not supported in breezy's 2.6.12), Asus MyCinema P-7133 dual tv card, SB audigy 2 zs audio card, sa7134 module gets loaded, i use tvtime application, see image but no sound... volume in tvtime is up to 100, unmuted, audio card works too...
[04:09] <eroger> Does anyone have an HP/Compaq with the media slots on the side, and manage to get their PCMCIA card slot working?
[04:09] <ice9> sudo gedit /etc/dchroot.conf
[04:09] <ice9> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[04:09] <ice9> Xlib: No protocol specified
[04:09] <ice9> (gedit:12765): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[04:09] <gnube> SAM_theman, Go to Computer -> Desktop Preferences -> Theme
[04:10] <ice9> I get this error when trying to access gedit
[04:10] <ice9> is something not installed maybe
[04:10] <gnube> ice9, That is not fstab, that is X windows complainging.
[04:10] <mcphail> Hal9000: you can pass parameters to a module with the modprobe command
[04:10] <SAM_theman> i am in KDE
[04:10] <rikai> i jsu tupdated an ubuntu install, is there any way to set the password for the remote desktop via an ssh terminal?
[04:10] <ice9> yeah I know its xwindows
[04:10] <eroger> rikal, if you can ssh to the other machine, just use passwd
[04:11] <ice9>  does someting need to be installed then
[04:11] <rikai> *just updated
[04:11] <gnube> Hal9000, That sounds awesome, I am certain someone will help. But you are using a late version of Ubunut, did you think of using somethign with more testing?
[04:11] <gnube> like warty?
[04:11] <trappist> Hal9000: you'll probably need to check out the driver docs, forums etc. for your tuner card driver
[04:11] <rikai> eroger, remote desktop allws you to set a custom password
[04:12] <eroger> oh, ok. I'm still getting used to things, so that was a guess. sorry
[04:12] <rikai> eroger, no prob, thanks for trying, anyway. ;)
[04:12] <SAM_theman> brb
[04:12] <Hal9000> gnube: i tried the dapper distro yesterday, but had the same problem...
[04:13] <jhenn> If I'm doing internet connection sharing as described in the forums, how do I turn on dhcp to make it easier?
[04:13] <gnube> Hal9000, That is the thing, it is a really late version, probably untested. Use an older version that might be more stable with more drivers.
[04:13] <gnube> like HOary
[04:13] <gnube> or breezy
[04:13] <gnube> Dapper is still in testing if I am not mistaken.
[04:14] <Hal9000> gnube: i am using breezy dude :) just the 2.6.15 kernel, as the 2.6.12 doesnt support my tv card
[04:14] <gnube> Hal9000, Sorry!
[04:14] <gnube> Hal9000, My bad.
[04:14] <hmpedersen> Hey
[04:14] <jhenn> How do I turn on a dchp server on my ubuntu laptop?
[04:15] <Skies> I have many sound cards but how I can "bind" all sound to use the audigy card for output? (or something like that)
[04:15] <kj> oooloololololoooolllllllllllllllllllloooloololololoooolllllllllllllllllllloooloololololoooolllllllllllllllllllloooloololololoooolllllllllllllllllllloooloololololoooolllllllllllllllllllloooloololololoooo
[04:15] <kj> lllllllllllllllllllloooloololololoooolllllllllllllllllllloooloololololoooolllllllllllllllllllloooloololololoooolllllllllllllllllllloooloololololoooolllllllllllllllllllloooloololololoooo
[04:15] <_jason> lol that was pathetic
[04:15] <hmpedersen> Is there a way to shrink a partition in ubuntu? I want to try something out before i return this netcard..
[04:15] <rikai> indeed.
[04:16] <Skies> I have many sound cards but how I can "bind" all sound to use the audigy card for output? (or something like that)
[04:16] <rikai> lol, that didnt even fill up 1/8th of my screen ;)
[04:16] <shinu> im mounting my ext3 partition with options: auto,rw,user,users,exec. what else do i need for it to be rw for a normal user?
[04:16] <rikai> hmpedersen, i think you can do it with gparted.
[04:16] <hmpedersen> gparted.. never heard of it..
[04:16] <rikai> hmpedersen, sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:16] <KiaN> hi
[04:16] <Skies> hi
[04:17] <rikai> hmpedersen, and then: applications > system tools > GPartEd
[04:17] <KiaN> oooops wrong channel
[04:17] <hmpedersen> thanx rikai..
[04:17] <mcphail> shinu: your partition should be writable as it stands
[04:17] <Discipulus> is the new Firefox in Breezy yet?
[04:17] <_jason> Discipulus, no
[04:17] <Skies> :(
[04:17] <Discipulus> well why not?
[04:17] <shinu> mcphail: it isnt, i tried to copy a directory to it but it says : mv: cannot create directory ... : Permission denied
[04:18] <trappist> Discipulus: we don't usually put new versions of packages into stable releases.  just security updates and bugfixes.
[04:18] <mcphail> shinu: that isn't the partition's problem. You need to set permissions in the root directory
[04:18] <Skies> I installed firefox 1.5 in another folder on desktop :D
[04:18] <shinu> mcphail: oh, chmod?
[04:18] <mcphail> shinu: yes
[04:19] <_jason> Discipulus, here read all about the backport: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96595
[04:19] <shinu> mcphail: okies okies, first time im using an ext3 as a files partition so.. ^^' thanks a lot
[04:19] <Skies> ok
[04:19] <rikai> hmpedersen, yeah, jsut right click what you want to edit the size of, unmount it, and right click, and select "resize/move"
[04:19] <rikai> hmpedersen, ;)
[04:19] <mcphail> shinu: to be on the safe side, create a subdirectory instead and change the permissions on that
[04:19] <bachstudies> can anyone help me with my anti-virus problem?
[04:19] <hmpedersen> rikai, i cant resize anything.. I can only examine and unmount..
[04:20] <_jason> bachstudies, install linux.  done.  :)
[04:20] <shinu> mcphail: why?.. i want to use the whole partition..
[04:20] <rikai> hmpedersen, you have to unmount what you're going to resize.
[04:20] <hmpedersen> rikai, then the problem is this.. The partition is /
[04:20] <rikai> hmpedersen, see my above comment.
[04:20] <bachstudies> _jason, very funny i have and i'm just waiting for a reply to my earlier message regarding bitdefender which everyone seems to be ignoring!
[04:21] <rikai> hmpedersen, don't know how to go about that, have you tried searching the forums?
[04:21] <hmpedersen> I let ubuntu take over the disc.. Only / and swap..
[04:21] <mcphail> shinu: it makes it more difficult to accidently delete the whole file structure!
[04:21] <_jason> bachstudies, no one is ignoring you.  We just don't know the answer.  Try again later when different people are on.
[04:21] <teleyinex> hi
[04:21] <wozja> hi
[04:21] <teleyinex> how can I make that breezy when mounts my usb memory mount it in sync mode?
[04:22] <bachstudies> _jason, thanks for the advice
[04:22] <shinu> mcphail: would it be the same if i change everything in it to a+rw and make the dir itself ro?
[04:22] <teleyinex> I want this, because when you umount it from desktop you see that the icon disappears automagically, and the truth is that linux is writing the info
[04:22] <hmpedersen> ofcourse.. i take it the live ubuntu could work..
[04:24] <hmpedersen> This is a longshot.. I think i can be pretty sure, windows still wont work on this laptop.. But if it will, i can prove to the shop, that the netcard is not working..
[04:24] <mcphail> shinu: that would do the same thing, i think
[04:25] <shinu> mcphail: ok then, ill do that, thanks :)
[04:26] <johnl> hey guys, mark shuttleworth hit the latest eler strip: http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/clique
[04:28] <_jason> ha that's funny johnl
[04:28] <trappist> yes, yes it is.
[04:29] <johnl> :)
[04:31] <myke> hello
[04:32] <myke> what app will rip cds into mp3?
[04:32] <trappist> I use abcde or grip
[04:33] <the_mr_bong_show> GRRRR all i want to do it to open my mplayer.conf and edit the zoom no to a zoom yes how do i do that
[04:33] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show, sudo gedit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[04:33] <trappist> the_mr_bong_show: vi ~/.mplayer/mplayer.conf
[04:34] <shinu> why am i.. 'missing' over 1.5 gb on my 27 gb ext3 partition?
[04:34] <the_mr_bong_show> ty
[04:34] <hmpedersen> okay.. I have ubuntu installed.. If i install xp on a seperate partition, i will loose my current bootloader, right?
[04:34] <shinu> i just made it and mkfs.ext3'd it yesterday
[04:34] <trappist> shinu: filesystem overhead
[04:34] <_jason> trappist, does mplayer use that file as well?  I have just 'config' in my ~/.mplayer directory
[04:34] <mcphail> shinu: define gb
[04:34] <Allan> Hello People in ubutu chat room.
[04:35] <trappist> shinu: either that or you're measuring the size of the drive in<PHONE_NUMBER> byte gigabytes
[04:35] <trappist> _jason: that's odd.  let me check to be sure.
[04:35] <hmpedersen> I will reboot now.. May the penguin be with you all..
[04:35] <trappist> _jason: no, you're right, it should be config
[04:35] <shinu> trappist mcphail /dev/hda7 27G  1.5G   24G <- df -h output, thats what im counting with
[04:36] <trappist> shinu: ah, then that's filesystem overhead.  probably reserved inodes.
[04:36] <Allan> When I open synaptic package manager, it asks for my password. I type it in, and the box closes. Nothing happens. How do I access my packages?
[04:37] <trappist> Allan: try 'sudo synaptic'
[04:37] <mcphail> shinu: you can choose to use less inodes if you wish
[04:37] <Allan> ok
[04:37] <shinu> trappist: ok i see, cause it was quite a lot so i was a bit worried. do you recommend any other fs for a specifically files-only partition?
[04:37] <Allan> it doesn't give any errors, but it just returns to the prompt
[04:38] <shinu> mcphail: and why is it using more by default?
[04:38] <trappist> shinu: I use reiserfs, but you're going to have fs overhead with any filesystem
[04:38] <_jason> Allan, sudo -K and try again
[04:38] <trappist> shinu: I think the default is 5%
[04:38] <shinu> trappist: yeah i noticed that after the mkfs output
[04:39] <trappist> shinu: though there will be less waste on a reiserfs partition
[04:39] <Allan> _jason: it just says something about improper usage. I was supposed to type "sudo -K synaptic", right?
[04:39] <shinu> trappist: cause i used to have a fat32 partition and didnt notice anything with that...
[04:39] <_jason> Allan, no, jsut 'sudo -K'
[04:39] <Allan> did that
[04:39] <_jason> Allan, then try 'sudo synaptic'
[04:39] <mcphail> shinu: i'd stick to the defaults
[04:39] <Allan> same thing
[04:40] <Allan> nothing
[04:40] <_jason> Allan, no errors?
[04:40] <shinu> mcphail: ok then, 1.5gb is not so much a loss :P
[04:40] <Allan> no errors
[04:40] <_jason> Allan, can you sudo other stuff?
[04:40] <shinu> mcphail trappist : is xfs any good?
[04:40] <Allan> yes
[04:40] <trappist> shinu: it's great.  I don't use it because it's huge in terms of code and grub seems to hate it.
[04:40] <nox-Hand> What is the delete command in terminal?
[04:40] <Allan> Synaptic does the same thing from the System menu
[04:40] <trappist> nox-Hand: rm
[04:41] <the_mr_bong_show> can mplayer play wmv formats
[04:41] <Allan> or rmdir
[04:41] <shinu> trappist: ok ill stick to ext3 then, thanks :)
[04:41] <gnube> nox-Hand, rm -rf foo
[04:41] <alamba> Hi, can anyone let me know the name of any PPoE client for ubuntu 5.10?
[04:41] <Allan> what's PPOe?
[04:41] <Allan> PPoE
[04:41] <gnube> point to point over ethernet
[04:41] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show, install w32codecs
[04:41] <Allan> whatever that means
[04:41] <_jason> ubotu, tell the_mr_bong_show about w32codecs
[04:42] <rikai> hm, okay, for an athlon 64... with ubuntu, at this point, would you guys reccomend i install the i386 release, or the amd64 release?
[04:42] <gnube> alamba, try apt-cache ppoe
[04:42] <nox-Hand> Cheers
[04:42] <Allan> amd64
[04:42] <_jason> Allan, try sudo gnome-app-install
[04:42] <alamba> thanks
[04:42] <Allan> nothing happens
[04:42] <gnube> sorry, apt-cache search ppoe
[04:42] <Allan> goes back to prompt
[04:42] <rikai> Allan, even considering the problems with flash and java and such?
[04:42] <XiCillin> does anyones ubuntu freeze? using gnome?
[04:42] <_jason> Allan, did you enable root?
[04:43] <rikai> Allan, are there any real advantages to it?
[04:43] <rikai> XiCillin, mine used to, back when i was using hoary...
[04:43] <Allan> how do u enable root? advantages to what? I can't install flash or java; something's wrong there too.
[04:43] <dwalton59> can I get apt off the debian disk?
[04:43] <_jason> Allan, you shouldn't, I was just wondering if you did
[04:43] <gnube> dwalton59, which debian disk and yes.
[04:43] <XiCillin> rikai, hum. i'm  using breezy, with gnome and a macosx theme, and nothing but irc and gaim running after a day or so it'll freeze
[04:43] <dwalton59> 3.1
[04:44] <Allan> what is enabling root?
[04:44] <Allan> never mind
[04:44] <hartsantler> has there ever been a virus that affected ubuntu?
[04:44] <Allan> P.S. It's hard to answer 3 people at once
[04:44] <gnube> dwalton59, apt is the advanced package manager, it is a debian tool. So it exists on the debian disk.
[04:44] <gnube> hartsantler, no
[04:44] <_jason> Allan, a command like 'sudo echo hi' works though?
[04:44] <rikai> XiCillin, breezy fixed my freezing issues, might it be possibly a faulty component, or your machine getting too hot?
[04:44] <hartsantler> hi, gnube, how sure are you on that 'no' ?
[04:44] <XiCillin> I'm wondering if anyone else has experiences this problem. if not, then its me and ubuntu is cool
[04:44] <rikai> Allan, are you runing an amd64 release?
[04:44] <Allan> no it doesn't
[04:45] <Allan> yes rikai
[04:45] <gnube> hartsantler, of course not, but what are you talking about.
[04:45] <Lukian> XiCillin: i'd say it's gaim :)
[04:45] <_jason> Allan, groups | grep admin
[04:45] <gnube> what kind of virus?
[04:45] <gnube> like a mail worm?
[04:45] <Allan> huh?
[04:45] <rikai> Allan, thats why you cant install flash and java, there's no 64bit versions.
[04:45] <XiCillin> lukian, meh its happened with kopete also
[04:45] <_jason> Allan, run the command 'groups | grep admin' and see if it says anything
[04:45] <Allan> it worked fine on amd64 windows
[04:45] <XiCillin> also my gnome panel freezes when i try to shutdown with other pgorams running
[04:45] <hartsantler> i've got this sys admin guy who only knows how to use winblows, and he is scared my ubuntu machine is going to get a virus and he won't be able to fix it.
[04:46] <gnube> hartsantler, He does not know what he is talking about.
[04:46] <MoonRanger> how can you check if you have flash installed
[04:46] <robotgeek> Allan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaAMD64 , you are outta luck with flash
[04:46] <XiCillin> but its not a huge deal i'm getting an AMD in a few days
[04:46] <Allan> _jason: it says a bunch of meaningless stuff
[04:46] <XiCillin> alienware
[04:46] <dwalton59> gnube dos that mean that i can not installl form the debian disk
[04:46] <rikai> Allan, there's no linux amd64 package for flash.
[04:46] <gnube> hartsantler, There are exploits of course, but the security model is completely different from Windows.
[04:46] <_jason> Allan, hrmm, sudo used to work?
[04:46] <Allan> yes jason
[04:46] <rikai> Allan, there is a workaround for java though.
[04:46] <gnube> dwalton59, You can install from the debian disk if you want, sure.
[04:47] <JaZyLNX> hey guys when i do an su to become root and type in my password i get this
[04:47] <JaZyLNX> setgid: Operation not permitted
[04:47] <dwalton59> how do I do this
[04:47] <JaZyLNX> i accidently did a chmod -R 777 /  :(
[04:47] <JaZyLNX> what can i do
[04:47] <gnube> dwalton59, You will be installing debians version of apt-get not ubunut's if that makes any difference to you.
[04:47] <Allan> rikia: talk to me about java & flash later. Right now I'm trying to get synaptic working.
[04:47] <_jason> hartsantler, tell him 'thanks for his concern'.  You're safter with linux, let him spend his days virus scanning and spyware removing.
[04:47] <gnube> JaZyLNX, chmod back
[04:47] <JaZyLNX> but i can't gain root access
[04:47] <dwalton59> ok thx
[04:47] <gnube> JaZyLNX, What do you want to do? make a program executable?
[04:48] <gnube> do this; sudo chmod 755 foo
[04:48] <_jason> Allan, ok try 'sudo -K' again and then do 'sudo echo hi'
[04:48] <JaZyLNX> sudo chmod 755 foo
[04:48] <JaZyLNX> sudo: must be setuid root
[04:48] <JaZyLNX> what i get
[04:48] <gnube> yeah, just change foo to the name of your program.
[04:48] <hmpedersen> Right.. My live disc wont load.. Gave me a crc error..
[04:48] <Allan> it asks for a password. Should I put mine/
[04:48] <gnube> JaZyLNX, How did you chmod it in the first place then?
[04:49] <robotgeek> Allan: yes
[04:49] <_jason> Allan, yes, your user password
[04:49] <gnube> Allan, Yes\
[04:49] <rev> why does my wlan interface do not automatically get an IP from the dhcpd when I start wpa_supplicant? I have to start dhclient manually
[04:49] <Allan> ok.
[04:49] <JaZyLNX> well i was able to get root access to do it.. but after doing chmod 777 -R / then i got error
[04:49] <Allan> it does nothing
[04:49] <Allan> same as ever
[04:49] <_jason> Allan, did it say hi?  ack
[04:49] <Allan> no
[04:49] <jordo23> Anyone here use any web content management systems?
[04:49] <gnube> JaZyLNX, Can you get root access againb?
[04:49] <rikai> XiCillin, installing ubuntu on the alienware? ;)
[04:49] <robotgeek> jordo23: www.opensourcecms.org
[04:49] <Allan> synaptic worked yesterday
[04:49] <JaZyLNX> not threw command.
[04:49] <gnube> jordo23, drupal
[04:49] <JaZyLNX> maybe threw X
[04:50] <JaZyLNX> hold on
[04:50] <XiCillin> hell yea, its an amd athlon64 x2 4800+, intsalling ubuntu-64 with SMP
[04:50] <jordo23> robotgeek: I am familar with most of them, but can't decide on which to use.
[04:50] <XiCillin> its going to be like lighting
[04:50] <_jason> Allan, I don't really know then.  Can you think of what you did between yesterday and now?
[04:50] <Allan> played freeciv
[04:50] <robotgeek> jordo23: hmm, okay. wordpress wouldn't count :)
[04:50] <hmpedersen> XiCillin, i hope it works for you
[04:50] <rikai> XiCillin, you should document how it goes and post up your story on the forums ;)
[04:50] <Allan> last evening, and this morning
[04:50] <jordo23> robotgeek: You use any of them?
[04:50] <XiCillin> hmpedersen, rikai, yea i will
[04:51] <XiCillin> its going to be fun
[04:51] <Allan> with a bit of lbreakout2
[04:51] <XiCillin> nvidia geforce cards too
[04:51] <hmpedersen> XiCillin, im only sayin.. Cause it didnt work for me..
[04:51] <hartsantler> how many years has ubuntu been around?
[04:51] <XiCillin> I'll make it work
[04:51] <robotgeek> jordo23: no, i only use wordpress for my blog. drupal,zope and turbo gears i think are pretty popular
[04:51] <XiCillin> just gotta install ubuntu64 and smp kernel
[04:51] <gnube> JaZyLNX, Are you trying to make executable your entire file system?
[04:51] <JaZyLNX> i accidently did.
[04:51] <gnube> hartsantler, Just one, but linux has been around for fifteen
[04:52] <JaZyLNX> and no i can't gain root access anymore :(
[04:52] <jordo23> robotgeek: I heard joomla is pretty good.
[04:52] <JaZyLNX> damnit
[04:52] <rikai> XiCillin, feel free to pm me a link to it on the forums, i've got the same name over there. ;)
[04:52] <XiCillin> ok
[04:52] <robotgeek> jordo23: no idea, i just read about them. well, use them and see. they are free after all
[04:53] <gnube> hartsantler, Ubuntu is a prject based on debian. Debian is one of the most stable and widely used linux distrobutions. Linux is based on UNIX but uses entirely free software.
[04:53] <the_mr_bong_show> why is it when i play moves full screen in mplayer it plays slow in windows it played fine
[04:53] <gnube> It really should be called GNU/Linux
[04:53] <Allan> _jason: I'm still listening
[04:53] <JaZyLNX> reinstall or what?
[04:53] <_jason> Allan, I'm out of ideas, sorry
[04:54] <Allan> any other chat rooms i could try?
[04:54] <dwalton59> #gnome
[04:54] <_jason> Allan, repeat your problem in a few minutes and see if someone else can try to help you
[04:54] <gnube> Allan, What is it you need to do?
[04:54] <hmpedersen> Perhaps i should be smart for once, and backup all my files before attempting this..
[04:54] <Allan> no jason, I think someone is already here (gnube) ^_^
[04:55] <Allan> open synaptic
[04:55] <tsw> which identd do you guys use? I would like identd that would be as secure as possible and still give the right info (so nullidentd is out)
[04:55] <app> Anyone know how the Breezy launch feedback is configurable?
[04:55] <gnube> Allan, I doubt if I can be more help than jason . . .
[04:55] <myke> what app can rip cds into mp3s?
[04:55] <gnube> Allan, firstly, it is installed right?
[04:55] <Allan> yes, it worked yesterday
[04:56] <_jason> Allan, one thing, did you do expert install?  --sorry for interrupting
[04:56] <hakare> hi all
[04:56] <gnube> Allan, do this, which synaptic
[04:56] <Allan> package manager
[04:56] <gnube> # which synaptic
[04:56] <gnube> and paste in the chat window.
[04:56] <ejofee> when booting single user, i can't login. it asks for a password, but there's none that would work. please help me.
[04:56] <Allan> what do u mean?
[04:56] <hmpedersen> myke, i think u allready got an answer a few times now..
[04:56] <gnube> Allan, I know "which" synaptic, but I mean entire this command in the command line;
[04:56] <gnube> which synaptic
[04:56] <hakare> How do i install samba on ubuntu?
[04:56] <myke> i dont see it
[04:57] <Allan> it's not a command line; i use the "system" menu
[04:57] <gnube> Allan, Can you open a terminal?
[04:57] <hmpedersen> myke, well.. Scroll up. I cant repeat it, as i don't have channel logging, and ive rebooted
[04:57] <Allan> yes i have one open
[04:57] <Allan> sudo synaptic is what i'll try
[04:57] <gnube> type this in the terminal:
[04:58] <gnube> which synaptic
[04:58] <Allan> ok
[04:58] <gnube> type the message you get
[04:58] <myke> hmpedersen i dont see it
[04:58] <gnube> you should see something like this:
[04:58] <gnube> /usr/bin/synaptic
[04:58] <the_mr_bong_show> why is it when i play moves full screen in mplayer it plays slow in windows it played fine
[04:58] <gnube> or rather /usr/sbin/synaptic
[04:58] <myke> it seems my screen dont go all the way to the top
[04:58] <myke> it isnt logging all of it
[04:58] <Allan> gnube: #2 is esact
[04:59] <Allan> ugh
[04:59] <gnube> so do this and see what happens;
[04:59] <gnube> sudo /usr/sbin/synaptic
[04:59] <Allan> it won't let me post it
[04:59] <myke> i have serpentine
[04:59] <gnube> give your password when it asks you
[04:59] <hmpedersen> myke, you could allways try Sound Juicer
[04:59] <Allan> it didn't ask
[04:59] <myke> but it only rips into mp3/flac
[04:59] <myke> thats what i meant
[05:00] <myke> sound jucier
[05:00] <Allan> it just said allan@Owl: - ~$
[05:00] <app> I am asking about launch feedback, because I don't think Linux is good for "human beings" as long as you can choose commands in menus and NOTHING happens before waiting tens of seconds for Windows to open, or fail to open silently wiht no feedback in UI.
[05:00] <myke> is there a plugin for mp3?
[05:00] <hmpedersen> myke, k.. it was only a thought, as ive never used it..
[05:00] <Xperience> whats a good AC3 codec?
[05:00] <gnube> Allan, Did you enter this in the command line window:
[05:00] <myke> it only does flac/ogg
[05:00] <Xperience> i cant hear ac3 sound in a movie i encoded
[05:00] <gnube> sudo /usr/sbin/synaptic
[05:00] <SuperLag> I'm running Xen on Gentoo.  I would like to know if I can install Ubuntu in one of the VMs using the debootstrap utility.  Is that possible?
[05:00] <Allan> yes
[05:01] <Allan> that's what it gave me: Allan@Owl: - ~$
[05:01] <gnube> SuperLag, that sounds interesting. You should try it but I doubt it will work.
[05:01] <gnube> SuperLag, I think debbootstrap is really debian centric
[05:01] <SuperLag> gnube: why do you doubt it will work?
[05:01] <gnube> SuperLag, I think debbootstrap is really debian centric
[05:01] <Xperience> whats a good AC3 codec?
[05:01] <Xperience> i really need an ac3 codec
[05:01] <SuperLag> gnube: that's what I was thinking...
[05:01] <app> Right now I have "Updates" icon in right upper corner, and NOTHING  happens if I right click anything of its menu...
[05:01] <tech9iner> misfit_toy man o man mang.. once again.. austin wins 'berkeley' like spotlight.. ;] .. http://www.aiatopten.org/hpb/overview.cfm?ProjectID=470
[05:02] <gnube> SuperLag, take a look at the code, I think it is perl or shell
[05:02] <Xperience> !info ac3
[05:02] <gnube> so it should be easy to tell
[05:02] <gnube> but it basically calls the netinstall image and then apt-gets everything
[05:02] <gnube> sorry Allan, where were we
[05:02] <robotgeek> app: moment
[05:03] <Allan> when I entered sudo /usr/sbin/synaptic, it did nothing and asked for another command.
[05:03] <gnube> Allan, try this, sudo /usr/sbin/synaptic &
[05:03] <Xperience> ok can someone help me?
[05:03] <gnube> Allan, This time we add the ampersand at the end of the command
[05:03] <gnube> Xperience, what is the issue
[05:03] <Xperience> i need a codec that can play ac3 sound files (dvd audio)
[05:03] <Allan> ok
[05:03] <robotgeek> app: don't you get a busy cursor when you launch something?
[05:03] <Allan> it said something about a broken pipe
[05:03] <hmpedersen> Hey.. Can ne1 tell me, if i can install gparted and shrink /, if im using the ubuntu live disc?
[05:03] <mcphail> SuperLag: why not use vmware instead of xen?
[05:03] <Xperience> everytime i encode a movie to dvd theres no audio
[05:04] <Allan> It said: [1]  12694
[05:04] <Allan> [1]    Broken pipe             sudo /usr/sbin/synaptic
[05:04] <_jason> ubotu, tell Xperience about multimedia
[05:04] <ejofee> how do i run _from the command line, not from the menu_ the gui app which sets the network in ubuntu?
[05:04] <gnube> Xperience, I wish I could help you but I rarely leave the command lie.
[05:04] <Xperience> lol
[05:04] <_jason> Xperience, gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg includes an ac3 codec
[05:04] <gnube> Allan, Aha!
[05:04] <Xperience> thx
[05:04] <rikai> Hm, nano is my best friend... forget gedit :E~
[05:04] <gnube> Allan, Now we are getting somewhere
[05:04] <Allan> what's going wrong?
[05:04] <gnube> rikai, nano, eww
[05:04] <app> Yes, I get the busy cursor, but I would like to change the configuration. Sometimes the busy cursor is there less time than the app takes to start. And sometimes it will not appear at all.
[05:04] <gnube> emacs rocks
[05:04] <Allan> broken is obviously wrong, but what does it mean?
[05:04] <_jason> Xperience, you should probably read the links ubotu sent you as well
[05:04] <gnube> allan do this,
[05:04] <smo> SuperLag, as long as you see breezy in /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/, debootstrap should work just fine (atleast, it worked fine for me with hoary)
[05:05] <gnube> apt-get remove synaptic
[05:05] <_jason> Allan, have you tried restarting?
[05:05] <Allan> more broken pipes. jason, yes.
[05:05] <the_mr_bong_show> _jason do yo uknow why when i play fullsceen videos or even double the size in mplayer the videos are really slow
[05:05] <Allan> no wait. no proken pipes: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:06] <rikai> gnube, i havent had the time to learn emacs or vi, nano is quick and dirty, and very simple.
[05:06] <Allan> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:06] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show, try to add the -framedrop switch
[05:06] <app> robotgeek: I am a Linux teacher. I just try make understand, how to make the launch feedback more fool proof.
[05:06] <gnube> rikai, I see. But once you do learn emacs you will be very happy and productive.
[05:06] <robotgeek> app: yes, i understand. maybe you can file a usability bug somewhere?
[05:06] <_jason> rikai, or vi, you will be happier
[05:06] <robotgeek> app: i'm sure it will be taken seriously
[05:06] <gnube> _jason, HERETIC!!!
[05:06] <the_mr_bong_show> -framedrop switch?
[05:06] <Xperience> _jason i have gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg installed
[05:07] <gnube> :)
[05:07] <trappist> emacs is a nice operating system, but I prefer linux.
[05:07] <giftnudel> rikai, or stay with what you now and you'll be faster than learning a new editor ...
[05:07] <gnube> trappist, w00t!
[05:07] <rikai> gnube, _jason i do plan on learning to use both, but they seem jsut so damn complicated.
[05:07] <app> Robotgeek, first I was asking, if anybody has any documenmtation at all about the launch icon. I don't find it with Google or "locate".
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> emacs would be better if it had a nice text editor built in.
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:07] <gnube> giftnudel, Not true
[05:07] <giftnudel> hehe
[05:07] <Allan> the apt-get thingy says: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:07] <smo> it worries me that someone, somewhere, is probably trying to write a kernel in lisp
[05:07] <Allan> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:07] <_jason> rikai, try running: 'vimtutor'
[05:07] <gnube> Allan, Sorry, do this;
[05:07] <rikai> giftnudel, perhaps in the short term.
[05:07] <mcphail> app: this is a good point. Most of us are just used to launching from terminals if the menu doesn't work.
[05:07] <gnube> sudo apt-get remove synaptic
[05:08] <gnube> answer y when it asks you
[05:08] <gnube> 0or you can do this:
[05:08] <_jason> Xperience, do you have the other codecs isntalled as well?
[05:08] <gnube> sudo aptitude -y remove synaptic
[05:08] <Allan> what is it supposed to ask me?
[05:08] <rikai> smo, i shall write a kernel in B
[05:08] <giftnudel> rikai, well if I need to get something done tomorrow, it's short term for me
[05:08] <robotgeek> app: i know kde has launch feedback, i dunno about gnome. i'll look, one sec
[05:08] <rikai> smo, heh ;)
[05:08] <Allan> it didn't ask anything
[05:08] <app> I know launch feedback can be configured with KDE control center, but I don't find anyhting similar on Breezy's Gnome.
[05:08] <gnube> Allan, after removing you will have blah blah free space
[05:08] <giftnudel> rikai, but you are right there ..
[05:08] <Mike_> hi, i've had lots of problems setting up a wireless card
[05:09] <gnube> Allan, ok then,
[05:09] <gnube> next
[05:09] <gnube> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[05:09] <_jason> gnube, I don't think he even has sudo working.  'sudo echo hi' returns nothing for him
[05:09] <SuperLag> gnube: so. If I can't install Ubuntu via debootstrap... is there a way to install it from within an existing install?
[05:09] <Mike_> is there any wireless cards on the market with linux drivers?
[05:09] <Allan> wait
[05:09] <rikai> holy crap, vegastrike-data is huge o.O;
[05:09] <the_mr_bong_show> whats the -framedrop switch
[05:09] <SuperLag> gnube: i.e. from my Gentoo-Xen box, and direct it to the partition I've created for a vm?
[05:09] <gnube> SuperLag, Yeah you can partition your hard disk and install it there, needs about two gigs
[05:09] <Allan> neither command does anything visible.
[05:09] <giftnudel> the_mr_bong_show, it drops frames
[05:10] <Allan> the install or the remove
[05:10] <gnube> Allan,  Your termianl is screwed up.
[05:10] <robotgeek> app: it might be under startup-notification, one sec
[05:10] <app> Robotgeek and mcphail, my dream is not only "Linux for humans", but even Linux for people who use computers only because they must, not because they want. And people who are busy with work, family, hobbies and everythin non-computer. People who hate computers.
[05:10] <gnube> this is starting to sound serious.
[05:10] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i use it
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> Mike_,  I  belive theres  the 5200, or 2500 chipset ones.. but i forget the details.. some Linux mag. wrote about how the company was fully supporting linux.
[05:10] <Allan> I'll ask again about this in 15 minutes.
[05:11] <SuperLag> gnube: over the network? or am I going to have to use a CD?
[05:11] <gnube> Mike_, There are tons of cards and driv ers
[05:11] <SuperLag> gnube: the partition itself is already created
[05:11] <gnube> SuperLag, Is this machine in a colo?
[05:11] <Mike_> i've heard the Linksys ones are good, do they offer linux drivers?
[05:11] <SuperLag> gnube: not yet :)
[05:11] <SuperLag> gnube: that's the idea though
[05:11] <gnube> SuperLag, But it is headless?
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> Mike_,  it depends more on the exact chipset of the card. then the maker of the card.
[05:11] <SuperLag> gnube: yes
[05:11] <gnube> hmmm.
[05:11] <gnube> I did this recently actually.\
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Mike_,  some times the makers have different versions of the same card/modle name. with differnet chipsets even. :(
[05:12] <MaGoX> hello
[05:12] <gnube> I think you can download the netinstall image and then you apt-get to pull stuff from ubuntu
[05:12] <SuperLag> gnube: I can download an ISO and loopmount it... I just don't know how to *start* the install process the way the scripts run from the CD when you boot it up. (if that makes sense)
[05:12] <gnube> SuperLag, I think you can download the netinstall image and then you apt-get to pull stuff from ubuntu
[05:12] <MaGoX> to view the version of gcc kompiled kernel
[05:12] <MaGoX> spek spanish sorry
[05:13] <MaGoX> speak
[05:13] <MaGoX> xD
[05:13] <SuperLag> gnube: do you have a URL to the netinstall image, by chance?
[05:13] <robotgeek> app: there's a startup library, libstartup-notification0, but i don't think too many apps use that though
[05:13] <Mike_> well the Linksys PCI cards have Atheros chipsets which i believe are better supported than the ACX111 crap
[05:13] <gnube> SuperLag, I think it is on the debian front page
[05:13] <rikai> app, hm, ubuntu DOES need to be made more seamless...
[05:13] <Kaltherz> Hi !!
[05:13] <Mike_> but it's still ridiculously hard getting a wireless card to work under linux
[05:13] <Kaltherz> Hey, someone can answer to me...
[05:13] <Mike_> which is really letting it down
[05:13] <SuperLag> gnube: so Debian... nto Ubuntu?
[05:13] <gnube> SuperLag, But debian and ubuntu are not so different if you are running headless . . .
[05:13] <robotgeek> Mike_: it depends on which card you have
[05:13] <jenda> Kaltherz: don't ask to ask... just ask :)
[05:13] <MaGoX> hello to view the version of gcc as my kernel compiled ??
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> Mike_,  you dont want to know the hassles ive had getting wireless working under windowes either. :P
[05:14] <Kaltherz> How can I to not accept incoming messages in the "amule" ?
[05:14] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Mike_ about wireless
[05:14] <SuperLag> gnube: there is one big difference, in my case.  Look at the following line. :)
[05:14] <gnube> SuperLag, they do not have a netinstall as far as I know.
[05:14] <SuperLag> Linux xenmaster <IP_ADDRESS>-xen-dom0 #1 Tue Dec 20 22:32:29 CST 2005 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
[05:14] <giftnudel> MaGoX, just do a modinfo i810
[05:14] <SuperLag> gnube: AMD64
[05:14] <gnube> ahhh 64 bits
[05:14] <Mike_> i've never had a problem running anything, under windows
[05:14] <gnube> why not stay with debian?
[05:14] <Skies> how can I install apache 2.2.0? :D
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/wireless/
[05:14] <smo> SuperLag: if the host is ubuntu, debootstrap should be all setup ready to go
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> Mike_,  consider yourself very very very lucky then.
[05:14] <SuperLag> smo: the host is Gentoo.
[05:14] <app> I saw that too, but how do you configure it? Well, I have to go, mail me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>if you please. Thanks for the keywords "startup-notification". kKeywords are the gold pieces of todays computer jungles...
[05:15] <robotgeek> Mike_: maybe we shud just get tou your wireless issue?
[05:15] <gnube> smo, Can you use bootstrap to install ubunut he wants to know
[05:15] <conrad_> hi, got a tar.gz file for which i thought the untarring was cvzf??
[05:15] <Ng> xvzf
[05:15] <Ng> cvzf is for creating
[05:15] <SuperLag> gnube: because, compared to Ubuntu, Debian doesn't do AMD64 well at all.
[05:15] <robotgeek> app: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/startup-notification/
[05:15] <Mike_> ok
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> Ralink have 'got the message' on Free Software, and have released their drivers under the GPL.
[05:15] <giftnudel> MaGoX, did you understand?
[05:15] <smo> gnube, I have done, but only from an ubuntu host
[05:15] <conrad_> hi
[05:16] <conrad_> can someone help me with a noob question?
[05:16] <CarlFK> gnube: This may help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LocalNet
[05:16] <MaGoX> giftnudel ok this is the new or the orignial compiled kernel because the NVDIA driver say that the version 3.4 is not correct
[05:16] <CarlFK> conrad_: not if you dont' ask the question ;)
[05:16] <conrad_> i've got cvpjf ; xvpfi
[05:16] <DRK13> HI room  :)
[05:16] <dsevilla> well, today my dapper says it is gonna deinstall dbus
[05:16] <MaGoX> sevilla
[05:16] <MaGoX> k pasa !!
[05:16] <MaGoX> xD
[05:16] <Mike_> ok, i have no net connection on ubuntu, so i'm having to download stuff under xp and share it over via my compactflash card. i have installed ndiswrapper-utils, and also the ndisgtk front end, i have installed the TNET1130.inf driver, but when i do ndiswrapper -l it's reports 'hardware not present'
[05:16] <dsevilla> when I dist-upgrade it
[05:17] <conrad_> CarlFK: i did but was ignored , so i thought i'd make sure someone was listening first this time
[05:17] <giftnudel> MaGoX, this from you currently running kernel
[05:17] <MaGoX> dsevilla hablas espanyol no ?
[05:17] <dsevilla> MaGoX, hola :)
[05:17] <robotgeek> Mike_: is it supported by ndiswrapper?
[05:17] <Skies> how can I install apache 2.2.0? :D
[05:17] <Mike_> the card has a Texas Instruments ACX111 chipset
[05:17] <conrad_> CarlFK: well thx. Can you tell me how to untar .gz file? please
[05:17] <stianh> Skis: is it just released?
[05:17] <dsevilla> MaGoX, pues s?
[05:17] <MaGoX> giftundel ok but its no the original kompiled kernel
[05:17] <jhenn> can anyone help me with setting up internet connection sharing?
[05:17] <Mike_> it's a no name brand card, fairly new, it's not on the list of supported cards, no
[05:17] <MaGoX> dsivilla
[05:17] <darker-shadow> thanks amigos
[05:17] <conrad_> i thought it was tar cvzf??
[05:17] <robotgeek> conrad_: tar -zxf file.tar.gz
[05:18] <MaGoX> dsevilla vaia tio jajajja toi aki kon el ubuntu
[05:18] <robotgeek> conrad_: c is for compress
[05:18] <conrad_> robotgeek: thanks
[05:18] <robotgeek> Mike_: i meant on the ndiswrapper wiki
[05:18] <Kaltherz> otia
[05:18] <MaGoX> tu no sabras por casualidad como ver la version original con que se compilo el kernel
[05:18] <darker-shadow> it's root is active
[05:18] <Kaltherz> espaoles
[05:18] <CarlFK> conrad_: I think you can just double click it.  if that doesnt work...   no.  "tar c" is for create.  x is for extract.  man tar before you proceed.
[05:18] <smo> robotgeek: c is create .. z is gzip and j is bzip2
[05:18] <darker-shadow> and work excellent
[05:18] <giftnudel> MaGoX,  then you need to boot that kernel for this version
[05:18] <robotgeek> smo: yes, i know. thanks :)
[05:18] <giftnudel> MaGoX, there might be a better one
[05:18] <MaGoX> esque tengo el Driver de Nvidia que me pide el gcc que compilo el kernel
[05:18] <Mike_> i know that's what you meant
[05:18] <Mike_> i said no
[05:19] <robotgeek> Mike_: then, probably no
[05:19] <Mike_> robotgeek: the specific card is not listed
[05:19] <Kaltherz> bye bye !
[05:19] <Mike_> robotgeek: the specific card has been out about 2 weeks
[05:19] <robotgeek> Mike_: chipset?
[05:19] <Mike_> robotgeek: for 4th time, ACX111
[05:19] <MaGoX> giftnudel i install the lastest version but the nvidia say the message alredy
[05:19] <robotgeek> Mike_: you are going to have a tough time with it
[05:19] <dsevilla> anybody using dapper? having locale problems???
[05:19] <CarlFK> I have a scan of a full page.  how can I print that so it is fit to the size of the page?  (it is ok if the "no print zone" doen't print, there isn't anything in that space on the original)
[05:20] <Ng> CarlFK: GIMP can scale things down when it prints
[05:20] <giftnudel> MaGoX, hmm, let me check, I find a method
[05:20] <claes> dsevilla, Using dapper no locales problem what I know off.
[05:20] <MaGoX> kaltherz hola !
[05:20] <MaGoX> ok xD
[05:20] <MaGoX> thanks
[05:20] <Mike_> the majority of people using ndiswrapper are using it to wrap around ACX111 drivers
[05:20] <Mike_> so i thought it would be easy to sort
[05:20] <linuxgeek2> does anyone know how to install transparency using gdesklets
[05:20] <linuxgeek2> ?
[05:20] <trappist> dsevilla: I have to mess with the LANG variable on breezy and dapper
[05:21] <dsevilla> trappist, and what did you put in them? :)
[05:21] <trappist> dsevilla: C
[05:21] <giftnudel> MaGoX, find the kernel in /lib/modules/kernel-name
[05:21] <dsevilla> hahah, nice
[05:21] <dsevilla> OK, that's a not working locale :)
[05:21] <Mike_> hmm apparently the Belkin ones are now linux
[05:21] <giftnudel> MaGoX, and do strings arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko | grep verma
[05:21] <Mike_> i'll look into getting another wireless card, or a cable
[05:21] <trappist> dsevilla: without it, line characters (like in `pstree`) come out as garbage in Eterm
[05:21] <giftnudel> MaGoX, you need to be in that directory
[05:21] <linuxgeek2> gdesklets ?
[05:21] <claes> dsevilla, LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[05:22] <trappist> claes: do you have Eterm installed?
[05:22] <giftnudel> MaGoX, otherwiese strings /lib/modules/kernel-name/arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko | grep verma
[05:22] <CarlFK> ng - gimp didn't quite get it right.  it scaled it, but didn't "trim" the zone, so it moved the start down, which pushed things printed on the bottom into the zone
[05:22] <giftnudel> -e
[05:22] <claes> trappist, nope
[05:22] <dsevilla> claes, yeah, if you have an English locale, but not if you have an Spanish one
[05:22] <Mike_> yeah Dr Willis that's the belkin cards
[05:22] <Mike_> or the Ralink chipsets
[05:23] <the_mr_bong_show> ok i got a question about partions and xp and ubuntu
[05:23] <dsevilla> claes, mmm... does this mean that ubuntu has switched to UTF-8?
[05:23] <robotgeek> Mike_: the ralinks are nice, i use them :)
[05:23] <claes> dsevilla, check with "locale -a" see if you find anything you like. :-)
[05:23] <Mike_> i might try and get one
[05:23] <Ng> CarlFK: I have no idea what you are talking about with trimming and zones, but I know that if I try to print a huge image in gimp and tell it to scale horizontally and vertically (in the print dialog) it all fits on the page. Is that not what you're asking for?
[05:23] <Mike_> are they the only chipset with linux drivers?
[05:23] <trappist> dsevilla: there are several bugs in bugzilla about the UTF-8 locale situation
[05:23] <hmpedersen> Hey.. Can ne1 tell me, if i can install gparted and shrink /, if im using the ubuntu live disc?
[05:23] <Mike_> does it work out of the box on linux
[05:23] <Mike_> ?
[05:23] <claes> dsevilla, They switched with breezy I think.
[05:23] <Mike_> on ubuntu, i mean?
[05:24] <MaGoX> giftundel one moment , i don't know otherwiese
[05:24] <robotgeek> Mike_: yes
[05:24] <Ng> Mike_: I bought a NetGear WPN311 the other day (athereos based) and it Just Worked
[05:24] <the_mr_bong_show> can some one give me a link or tell me step by step on how i can partion my hdd so i can boot and use xp or ubuntu
[05:24] <giftnudel> MaGoX, otherwise
[05:24] <Mike_> hmm interesting
[05:25] <giftnudel> MaGoX, otherwise = if not then
[05:25] <willis_> the_mr_bong_show,  well for a start - backup everything thats imporntant.
[05:25] <Ng> Mike_: www.linuxemporium.co.uk have some linux compatible cards too I think
[05:25] <the_mr_bong_show> did that
[05:25] <Mike_> i am looking at that site now thanks
[05:25] <Ng> Mike_: they're probably ralink based. I only mention it because you have a .uk hostname :)
[05:25] <MaGoX> ok
[05:25] <Ng> ah
[05:25] <Mike_> Bristol, UK
[05:26] <Foodcoman> Greetings
[05:27] <willis_> the_mr_bong_show,  then I  normally just use a live cd like the "SystemRescueCD" and use qt_parted to resize the existing aoprtition. and leave a sectuion of the Hd "Unallocated" then let the isntaller set up that as it wants
[05:27] <MaGoX> giftundel don't find /arch
[05:27] <willis_> the_mr_bong_show,  be sure to  tell the installer to use the existing free space.. NOT the 'whole hard drive'
[05:27] <conrad_> i've cd'd into a folder andthere are different colored listings
[05:27] <mcphail> Mike_: try googling for different windows drivers for your card, and try them all with ndiswrapper
[05:27] <MaGoX> giftnudel don't find /arch
[05:28] <conrad_> what can i do to open setup.sh which is in green?
[05:28] <Mike_> hmm
[05:28] <Mike_> my card brings up 3 results
[05:28] <claes> conrad_,      ./setup.sh
[05:28] <conrad_> thx
[05:28] <Mike_> all from the shop i bought it at!
[05:28] <darker-shadow> another question if i will upload the script the server on the net, can you tell me  please. how to configuration the script and install him?
[05:28] <MaGoX> giftnudel /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/
[05:29] <MaGoX> don't find /arch
[05:29] <the_mr_bong_show> see i what i would like to do is use fdisk and part half my drive half for windows half for ubuntu how do i get xp on one part and ubuntu on the other and then when i turn on the pc let my pc ask if i want to boot ubuntu or xp
[05:29] <giftnudel> MaGoX, cd kernel
[05:29] <giftnudel> MaGoX, it's in there
[05:29] <conrad_> claes: says bash no such file or directory
[05:29] <darker-shadow> ???
[05:29] <giftnudel> MaGoX, but need to go, sorry
[05:30] <claes> conrad_, Are you in the directory where the setup.sh is?
[05:30] <conrad_> yes
[05:30] <conrad_> already there, in it
[05:30] <willis_> the_mr_bong_show,  yes.. the ubuntu install will add a boot menu.
[05:30] <Mike_> it's strange that on the ubuntu wiki, several acx111 cards are showing as working out of the box
[05:31] <Mike_> even without ndiswrapper
[05:31] <willis_> the_mr_bong_show,  it will do exactly that.
[05:31] <claes> conrad_, Check the first line in the script setup.sh what does that say?
[05:31] <conrad_> claes: there is a Read me file etc
[05:31] <darker-shadow> some one?
[05:31] <MaGoX> ok thanks very mach bye bye
[05:31] <conrad_> claes: that is what i don't know because i can't open it
[05:31] <LoppApan> the_mr_bong_show: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p3.htm
[05:31] <conrad_> is it cat?
[05:31] <claes> conrad_, Try:   head setup.sh
[05:32] <claes> conrad_, head shows you the first 10 lines of a file.
[05:32] <conrad_> says cannot open setup.sh for reading?
[05:32] <lowman62> the_mr_bong_show: you can view a video tutorial on that at this url http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6104490811311898236&q=
[05:32] <conrad_> it's green does that mean it is not a reading file?
[05:32] <claes> conrad_, Do you have the permissions to read the file? ls -l setup.sh
[05:33] <conrad_> well, i'm root
[05:33] <the_mr_bong_show> i got my hdd part already half and half but how do i get windows ty
[05:33] <claes> conrad_, What does: file setup.sh    say?
[05:33] <the_mr_bong_show> sorry
[05:33] <the_mr_bong_show> thank you sorry im a newbe
[05:33] <claes> conrad_, Green means it's executable.
[05:34] <conrad_> claes: that is what i thought. do you know the command to  execute it?
[05:34] <the_mr_bong_show> lowman62 that site was Not Found
[05:34] <the_mr_bong_show> Error 404
[05:34] <willis_> ./whatever.sh
[05:34] <lowman62> the_mr_bong_show: no i was just saying if you are more kinestetic like me then watching a video would be more helpful
[05:35] <lowman62> i have it up here now
[05:35] <the_mr_bong_show> true i am that way thats why screenshots and movies help alot i have to see it lol
[05:35] <claes> conrad_, It should be executable by itself.   ./setup.sh    should run it.   it's     dot/setup.sh
[05:36] <conrad_> claes: i opened it
[05:36] <the_mr_bong_show> well that site im geting an 404
[05:36] <conrad_> if you want the  head
[05:36] <lowman62> the_mr_bong_show: go to http://video.google.com and ask for "dual booting windows xp and ubuntu" it is the first thing that shows up
[05:36] <hmpedersen> Oh.. Is there a way to get a graphical bootloader in ubuntu?
[05:36] <willis_> I wonder what this setup.sh is even for.
[05:36] <willis_> hmpedersen,  you mean a nice fancy grub menu?
[05:36] <hmpedersen> willis, more like a nice clean lilo with a few options..
[05:37] <claes> conrad_, It should be executable by itself.   ./setup.sh    should run it.   it's     dot/setup.sh
[05:37] <conrad_> claes: successfully excuted ./ command. Now says,"Your cgoban shell script is now configured. You may copy this shell
[05:37] <conrad_> script to a /bin directory and use it to run cgoban. Please leave
[05:37] <conrad_> all other files in place.
[05:37] <the_mr_bong_show> lawman62 didnt find it
[05:37] <claes> conrad_, Then it worked.
[05:38] <lowman62> the_mr_bong_show: oh bouy! se la vi
[05:38] <dsevilla> OK, guys, the locale problem is solved
[05:38] <conrad_> claes: thx, what about copying to a /bin to run the app from there?
[05:38] <dsevilla> just changing the locales from es_ES@euro to es_ES.euro works
[05:38] <mcphail> conrad_: sudo mv cgoban /usr/local/bin/
[05:38] <dsevilla> just @ -> . in locales
[05:38] <dsevilla> thanks for your help
[05:38] <Skies> how can I install apache 2.2.0?  What does that command effectively do now?
[05:40] <the_mr_bong_show> lowman62 how do i play it lol
[05:41] <mcphail> conrad_: it move the shell script to a directory which is in your $PATH (in other words you can run it simply by typing the name)
[05:41] <conrad_> in the shell?
[05:41] <mcphail> conrad_: yes
[05:42] <conrad_> mcphail: and can i have it to run from Applications too?
[05:42] <conrad_> using menu editor??
[05:42] <xwolf> yo people... know the shipit ubuntu cds? which interface do they come with?
[05:42] <conrad_> mcphail: soz, Applications Menu Editor?
[05:43] <mcphail> conrad_: yes
[05:43] <Eleaf> conrad_, `!
[05:43] <trappist> xwolf: interface?
[05:43] <HighHopes> Hello folks! Is it possible to disable RSDP detection, fan, acpi and so on in Ubuntu? because my Laptop is old and it uses APM, not ACPI. How can I achieve this? \
[05:44] <conrad_> mcphail: is it the .jar or sh.in one i need to open?
[05:44] <xwolf> trappist i call it interface lol... i mean kde/xfce/gnome
[05:44] <trappist> xwolf: gnome
[05:45] <xwolf> only?
[05:45] <the_mr_bong_show> lowman62 i can play it but it is so chopy how well can you play it
[05:45] <Psycho78m> does anyone know the command which tells me what video card i'm using?
[05:45] <conrad_> mcphail: cgoban.jar or cgoban.sh.in ?
[05:45] <trappist> the one you download only has gnome (afaik), so I assume it's the same for shipit
[05:45] <Psycho78m> it begins with an l
[05:46] <mcphail> conrad_: /usr/local/bin/cgoban (I would imagine)
[05:46] <k31th> Whats the ubuntu docs channel ?
[05:47] <greenpenguin13> its for GPs
[05:47] <xwolf> thanks trans__err
[05:47] <robotgeek> k31th: /j #ubuntu-doc
[05:47] <xwolf> wow, bad typo... thanks trappist ;P
[05:48] <Psycho78m> !nvidia
[05:48] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:48] <Psycho78m> oh god
[05:49] <conrad_> mcphail: you genius!
[05:50] <k31th> anyone use bacula ?
[05:50] <occy> Is there a way to get Metacity to show you the size of the window when you resize it?
[05:50] <conrad_> mcphail: what a wicked imagination you have : 0
[05:51] <robotgeek> k31th: is it that backup tool? (i havent used it)
[05:51] <[g2] > running modrobe acpi failes iwth acpi_cpufreq .. "No such device" with Kubuntu and 2.6.12-9-696 on my gateway laptop
[05:51] <mcphail> conrad_: glad to help
[05:52] <conrad_> thx, cu
[05:52] <l3m> any ideas? the whole thing compiles fine on debian: http://rafb.net/paste/results/zQdex659.html
[05:53] <Psycho78m> i have a quick question for anyone interested in answering me: is identifying the video card's bus identifier a big step i seem to be skipping?  if so, how do i fnd this info out?
[05:54] <trappist> l3m: -fhonor-std
[05:55] <ejofee> how do i run _from the command line, not from the menu_ the gui app which sets the network in ubuntu?
[05:56] <l3m> trappist: ok, i'll try.. thanks
[05:56] <ejofee> when booting single user, i can't login. it asks for a password, but there's none that would work. please help me.
[05:56] <trappist> ejofee: single user should boot straight to /bin/sh, not a password prompt
[05:56] <trappist> or a login
[05:56] <eksajm> ejofee, use a live cd, chroot to the enviroment and use passwd?
[05:58] <l3m> trappist: same error
[05:58] <k31th> robotgeek: yes it is a backuptool
[05:59] <qaqa> Hello people!
[06:00] <Psycho78m> this is the ubuntu help channel, right?
[06:00] <greenpenguin13> probably
[06:00] <the_mr_bong_show> can some one tell me how or where can i get a windows boot disk
[06:01] <Ng> bootdisk.com has DOS boot disks, if that's what you mean
[06:01] <qaqa> right now, only root can access the ntfs partition I have mounted. how do i allow ordinary users readonly access to it? (sudo chmod 555 didnt work)
[06:01] <Foodcoman> http://www.bootdisk.com
[06:01] <Foodcoman> Seriously
[06:01] <Foodcoman> =)
[06:02] <trappist> l3m: were those libs built locally or on the debian box (or elsewhere)?
[06:02] <bDerrly> qaqa, your /etc/fstab should look similar to this:
[06:02] <bDerrly> /dev/hda1       /win            ntfs    ro,nls=utf8,umask=0222   0       0
[06:03] <l3m> trappist: on both machines, i got the .tar.bz2 from the internet, untarred it, ./bootstrap && ./configure && make
[06:03] <Mike_> i've solved my wireless issue!
[06:03] <Mike_> with 20m of ethernet cable
[06:03] <robotgeek> Mike_: aha
[06:03] <qaqa> bDerrly: would you mind explaining the options? ro=readonly. what does umask do?
[06:03] <trappist> l3m: http://www.ogre3d.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=91386#92168
[06:04] <ejofee> when booting single user, i can't login. it asks for a password, but there's none that would work. please help me.
[06:04] <ejofee> how do i run _from the command line, not from the menu_ the gui app which sets the network in ubuntu?
[06:04] <l3m> trappist: i read that. so?
[06:04] <robotgeek> ejofee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:04] <l3m> trappist: i did run bootstrap
[06:05] <l3m> trappist: if the answer was in the ogre forum i'd have found it already, i read all related posts there.....
[06:05] <qaqa> bDerrly: I changed my fstab..I still cant access it without sudo
[06:06] <ejofee> robotgeek: cool! you read my mind, that's a very nice tutorial on wifi. what about my questions?
[06:06] <jordo23> bootstrap bill
[06:06] <cvt> how do i unstick a program?
[06:07] <jordo23> use lighter fluid
[06:07] <robotgeek> ejofee: which ones? the calculator ones?
[06:07] <eksajm> qaqa, you have to set premisions for he folder.. have you done that?
[06:07] <cvt> how do i update firefox?
[06:08] <qaqa> eksajm: well, so long as ntfs is mounted, I'm not able to chmod it
[06:08] <eksajm> well unmount it then, change premsions and mount again?
[06:08] <qaqa> eksajm: I changed the perms to 555 after unmounting. I mounted it again after that. No change
[06:08] <eksajm> kk ;/
[06:08] <eksajm> you cannot write to a ntfs partitions
[06:08] <ejofee> robotgeek: when booting single user, i can't login. it asks for a password, but there's none that would work. please help me.
[06:09] <ejofee> robotgeek: how do i run _from the command line, not from the menu_ the gui app which sets the network in ubuntu?
[06:09] <qaqa> eksajm: I dont want to write. Read access is enough
[06:09] <eksajm> not if ypu want to change the length of a file
[06:09] <eksajm> kk..
[06:09] <robotgeek> ejofee: first one, i don't know, second one iwconfig wlan0 <parameter>
[06:09] <eksajm> root can read but not ordianry users?
[06:09] <ejofee> robotgeek: heh, nice of you to remember that ejofee is the calculator gui :)
[06:10] <qaqa> eksajm: yes..
[06:10] <ejofee> robotgeek: what if my network is not wireless?
[06:10] <qaqa> eksajm: I think there is something wrong with the folder perms
[06:10] <ejofee> robotgeek: for instance, i am on a lan
[06:10] <disasm> hey, i'm trying to move a postgresql database from an unbootable ubuntu to another ubuntu machine, but I keep getting problems with pg_controldata
[06:10] <refnumzx> i am trying to compile samba from source on ubuntu but i would like everything to go where the binary package installer places them libs, password files, etc.. how can i tell what build options were used on a binary package?
[06:10] <robotgeek> ejofee: then ifconfig / dhclient
[06:10] <Orionoceros> can i take a minute of someone's time?
[06:10] <qaqa> eksajm: cuz konqy still lists it as a "locked folder" for ordinary users
[06:10] <ejofee> robotgeek: i know how to edit the text files, i just want to know some gui ubuntu apps which do the same
[06:11] <eksajm> qaqa, hum.. thats not suppose to happand ;) .. did you follow a guide to mount it ?
[06:11] <ejofee> robotgeek: nothing gui in ubuntu?
[06:11] <robotgeek> ejofee: network-admin?
[06:11] <qaqa> eksajm: no..ubuntu autoconfigured it upon install
[06:11] <ejofee> robotgeek: i need them for a friend of mine which is a newbye
[06:11] <ejofee> robotgeek: cool, thanks
[06:12] <robotgeek> ejofee: the gui is network-admin, you might want network-manager if you have wireless + lan together
[06:12] <eksajm> qaqa, oh, hum i might be the wrong person to help you. i am very new to ubuntu. i only used gnetoo linux
[06:12] <neopolitik> anyone know how to get the correct headers for my latest current kernel in ubuntu? (2.6.23-10)
[06:12] <qaqa> eksajm: Thanks anyway.
[06:12] <neopolitik> I can't find them in synaptic
[06:12] <robotgeek> neopolitik, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-
[06:12] <qaqa> eksajm: I changed the mount point to a diff dir and it works now! weirdness!
[06:12] <trappist> l3m: I'm trying to build it here.  I'll let you know how it goes.
[06:12] <robotgeek> neopolitik: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:13] <qaqa> eksajm: I think you were right about the folder perms then
[06:13] <eksajm> try to set them wit R option
[06:13] <eksajm> well it wont work
[06:13] <eksajm> since you cannt set perms
[06:14] <ejofee> robotgeek: i can't run anything like "network-admin" from a console... it simply can't find it on my machine
[06:14] <robotgeek> ejofee: are you looking for a gui tool, or a commandline tool, or asking me how to launch the gui tool from cli?
[06:15] <trappist> l3m: so far so good.  I'm thinking something very basic is missing, what with the undefined reference to `std::cout'
[06:15] <neopolitik> robotgeek: thanks! whats the $(uname -r) all about? does that get the current kernel version?
[06:15] <trappist> like maybe your g++ is symlinked to gcc or something
[06:15] <robotgeek> neopolitik: bash goodness, executes uname -r and puts it there, so you get the current headers
[06:15] <neopolitik> robotgeek: E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386
[06:16] <ejofee> robotgeek: 3 -- "asking me how to launch _the ubuntu_ gui tool from cli"
[06:16] <neopolitik> it's like the kernel's too new or something
[06:16] <CarinArr> neopolitik, i have those exact headers installed
[06:16] <CarinArr> sothey should be there alright
[06:16] <neopolitik> wierd, eh?
[06:16] <robotgeek> ejofee: are you on ubuntu?
[06:16] <neopolitik> yup
[06:16] <ejofee> robotgeek: no
[06:16] <bungle> hi
[06:17] <robotgeek> ejofee: then?
[06:17] <ejofee> robotgeek: i don't like ubuntu
[06:17] <ejofee> robotgeek: i very much prefer kubuntu
[06:17] <ejofee> robotgeek: and this is what i am using
[06:17] <robotgeek> ejofee: hmm, okay.
[06:17] <ejofee> robotgeek: but i thought kubuntu had the same tools
[06:17] <neopolitik> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://seveas.ubuntulin
[06:17] <neopolitik> that must be it, right?
[06:17] <typewriter> i got my ubuntu 5.10 cds just last week and I popped in the x86 install cd and it errored during the install
[06:17] <neopolitik> bad sources.list
[06:17] <robotgeek> neopolitik: the whole url is ubuntulinux.nl
[06:18] <mcphail> An undefined reference to std::cout is a problem with source, rather than compiler
[06:18] <staaka> i'm missing D-Bus i guess what do i need to do upgrade or update
[06:18] <neopolitik> robotgeek: I know, i just didn't paste it all in.. theres like 10 lines of output
[06:18] <robotgeek> neopolitik: pastebin :)
[06:18] <refnumzx> i am trying to compile samba from source on ubuntu but i would like everything to go where the binary package installer places them libs, password files, etc.. how can i tell what build options were used on a binary package? i would also like to offer this as a .deb
[06:19] <robotgeek> neopolitik: his repos might be down
[06:19] <staaka> having issues with trying to play streams with some media players and i get errors stating now compiled with D-Bus
[06:19] <mula`> hi
[06:19] <mula`> how can i enable mysql support in php5 /apache 2 ?
[06:19] <staaka> s/now/not/
[06:19] <aaronm67> I am using a dell inspiron 6000, and when I close the lid, the screen doesn't come back, I am forced to use the sleep button to put the computer to sleep, and then resume from sleep mode. Does anyone know how to make it just open and close? I had it working once before on a previous installation of Ubuntu, but I had to reinstall
[06:19] <mula`> nevermind, it works now
[06:20] <neopolitik> robotgeek, et al: http://pastebin.com/473296
[06:21] <neopolitik> i got my source.list from that ubuntu automatic source list generator site
[06:21] <robotgeek> neopolitik: hmm, can you pastebin that too?
[06:22] <neopolitik> nother question: could it be that I already have the correct header files, but I can't find them? cause maybe vmware and my self are just looking in the wrong place..
[06:22] <neopolitik> robotgeek: sure
[06:22] <robotgeek> neopolitik: unlikely
[06:22] <bur[n] er> oh crap, staaka, you may not be able to msg back without being registered to nickserv :\
[06:23] <bobbyd_> hi
[06:23] <typewriter> whats the lightest window manager
[06:23] <aaronm67> does anyone know how I can get the screen to come back after I close the lid of a dell inspiron 6000?
[06:23] <bungle> typewriter, i use fluxbox which is pretty lightweight
[06:24] <neopolitik> http://pastebin.com/473303
[06:24] <sethk> aaronm67, sure, hold the power button for five seconds, then reboot.  :)
[06:24] <neopolitik> robotgeek: ^
[06:24] <bobbyd_> I used a program a long time ago that was like dd but would retry multiple times on errors and would fill in a whole file from any parts that could be recovered. does anyone know what it's called? I used it for recovering data from a broken hard drive.
[06:24] <leagris> typewriter, its named ratpoison http://freshmeat.net/redir/ratpoison/8830/url_homepage/ratpoison
[06:24] <aaronm67> ok
[06:24] <MrRio> hey
[06:24] <refnumzx> i am trying to compile samba from source on ubuntu but i would like everything to go where the binary package installer places them libs, password files, etc.. how can i tell what build options were used on a binary package? i would also like to offer this as a .deb
[06:25] <Discipulus> aaronm67, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DellLaptopSuspendFix?highlight=%28dell%29
[06:25] <leagris> emacs makes a quite very complette lightweight text desktop as well :)
[06:25] <sethk> refnumzx, ./configure --prefix=/usr
[06:25] <robotgeek> neopolitik: i can't see anything wrong with it, maybe you might want to comment out everything other than the main and try again?
[06:25] <Khisanth> emacs is not a lightweight anything!
[06:25] <MrRio> synaptic has started to freeze my machine, i cant restart X or switch to a tty
[06:25] <leagris> :)
[06:26] <robotgeek> no flamewars please :)
[06:26] <neopolitik> robotgeek: should I do an apt update list thing?
[06:26] <robotgeek> neopolitik: yes
[06:26] <aaronm67> haha, well, what I do now is I push the sleep button (fn + esc) and wake it up
[06:26] <MrRio> started happening since i turn on universe multiverse, from which i installed flash and acroread
[06:26] <refnumzx> sethk: what will that do?
[06:26] <leagris> For a lass edged desktop but stll lightweight, I liked to use windowmaker but ther are others
[06:27] <neopolitik> robotgeek: i'm going to try it from synaptic
[06:27] <aaronm67> Discipulus: thanks a lot for that link
[06:27] <robotgeek> neopolitik: not gonna matter, it uses apt :)
[06:27] <Discipulus> aaronm67, no problem
[06:28] <neopolitik> robotgeek: k. thought I'd mention it incase you'd tell me 'synaptic has it's own repo cache' or somesuchstuff
[06:28] <Sionide> whats the best software for torrenting with ubuntu ??
[06:28] <robotgeek> neopolitik: nah
[06:28] <bungle> good
[06:29] <aaronm67> Sionide: try azureus, azureus.sourceforge.net
[06:29] <Sionide> any others?
[06:29] <neopolitik> Sionide: I use azureus, but ubuntu comes with a simple gnome torrent app
[06:29] <Sionide> yeah thats the one giving me trouble(ish)
[06:30] <typewriter> use azureus, it's the shizzle
[06:30] <neopolitik> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/Release.gpg: Could not connect to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[06:30] <aaronm67> try another bittorrent client (abc)
[06:30] <leagris> Having user rated packages on the Ubuntu web or wiki that would be usefull to answer questions like, what is the best <insert package> for <insert purpose> :)
[06:30] <aaronm67> I believe it's also at sourceforge
[06:30] <neopolitik> robotgeek: if one repo fails to load, do the following ones still load?
[06:30] <robotgeek> neopolitik: should
[06:31] <Sionide> leagris, good idea, i'd be happy to rate the packages i use
[06:31] <typewriter> i <3 torrents
[06:31] <typewriter> im getting 6mbit down on ubuntu torrent
[06:32] <neopolitik> robotgeek: I got 3 repo erros
[06:32] <robotgeek> neopolitik: weird, just go with the main ones
[06:32] <neopolitik> others were that .nl site
[06:33] <robotgeek> neopolitik: seveas is probably sleeping, so his repo is down
[06:33] <aaronm67> when I enable the "resume" option in /boot/grub/menu.lst, what device does it hibernate to? my root, swap, or home partition. Currently, I have it set as root, and it doesn't do anything really
[06:33] <corresponder> hi
[06:33] <leagris> Sionide, I took the ideo from Mandriva that runs a package rating for club members. (My 5 yesrs long mandriva subscription ended this month though because I now prefer Ubuntu/Kubuntu) :)
[06:33] <Knorrie> hi
[06:33] <neopolitik> robotgeek: so just comment out seveas?
[06:34] <robotgeek> neopolitik: yes
[06:34] <bungle> leagris, I am a convert from mdk to ubuntu aswell
[06:35] <Foodcoman> bungle: Same here.
[06:35] <robotgeek> neopolitik: i think you missed a kernel upgrade or something
[06:35] <ubuntu> hi, i am using a live cd right now, is it possible to use my one cd drive now?
[06:35] <leagris> Bad times for Mandriva, because I know soo much who went from Mdk to Ubuntu in the last year
[06:35] <neopolitik> robotgeek: my sources.list was funky for a long time
[06:36] <angelx> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooo
[06:37] <jbroome> angelx: don't do that
[06:37] <leagris> What made my choice is, packages dpeendencies and .deb installation is much much cleaner and faster to update than the rpm. Then Ubuntu brought a nice set of easy tools the old debin didn't have
[06:37] <angelx> yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[06:37] <neopolitik> robotgeek: strange thing is, the day before yesterday, I tried installing vmplayer from vmware and it installed fine saying "vmmod loaded perfectly wiith your kernel, blah blah" but yesterday it didn't run, then when trying to reinstall, I got that headers not found error that I got a month or two ago when I tried to install vmware
[06:37] <leagris> old debian
[06:38] <jbroome> *plonk*
[06:38] <robotgeek> neopolitik: hmm, i dunno anything about vmware, sorry
[06:38] <refnumzx> i am trying to compile samba from source on ubuntu but i would like everything to go where the binary package installer places them libs, password files, etc.. how can i tell what build options were used on a binary package? i would also like to offer this as a .deb
[06:39] <cvt> i can't play any media files
[06:39] <cvt> any ideas/
[06:39] <erUSUL> !mp3
[06:39] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:39] <ubuntu> cvt: install vlc player via synaptic
[06:39] <neopolitik> robotgeek: build-essential is already the newest version.
[06:39] <jenda> cvt: got codecs?
[06:39] <neopolitik> E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386
[06:39] <ubuntu> it plays everything
[06:39] <cvt> not yet.
[06:39] <cvt> k, ubuntu
[06:40] <neopolitik> ubuntu: it doesn't play /everything/
[06:40] <Sionide> leagris, well it's a wiki so lets do it
[06:40] <cvt> i tried installing mplayer
[06:40] <leagris> refnumzx, if you are going to compile and install yourself without rebuilding ubuntu deb package. I storngly recommand to use the /usr/local path as base install and not the system path
[06:40] <nickrud> refnumzx, apt-get source <samba whatever package> , then look in debian/rules for build options
[06:40] <ubuntu> yeah, it won't play your piano at home, no
[06:40] <neopolitik> i've found it won't play some avi stuff for some reason
[06:41] <ubuntu> what codec is that avi neopolitik ?
[06:41] <Foodcoman> neopolitik: Automatix from the ubuntu forum is pretty slick for the media codecs.
[06:42] <jenda> !automatix
[06:42] <ubotu> I guess automatix is crap
[06:42] <neopolitik> ubuntu: dunno.. I found a bunch of non-free codecs on mplayer's site and now I can play pretty much everything else
[06:42] <jenda> Foodcoman: Do NOT recommend automatix... it is utter crap and breaks boxes
[06:42] <Foodcoman> jenda: fix my codec problems.   =)
[06:42] <vodnik> hello, when I compile something and the install it with sudo make install, is install to /usr/local/share - how do I uninstall it otherwise than by manually deleting those files?
[06:42] <jenda> Foodcoman: and destroy you setup.
[06:42] <jenda> *your
[06:42] <Foodcoman> jenda: 10-4 I wont recomend then.
[06:42] <ubuntu> yeah, can be, i usually only play mpeg4 aps files, so...
[06:42] <neopolitik> there's a replacement for automatix, i think
[06:43] <Foodcoman> jenda: on 64 bit?
[06:43] <cvt> i installed vlc player and tried to open an mp3 unsuccessfully.
[06:43] <Orionoceros> how do i play divx and mpegs and other formats?
[06:43] <erUSUL> vodnik,  by manually deleting those files, actually
[06:43] <jenda> Foodcoman: Last time I checked, it didn't support 64bit
[06:43] <nickrud> vodnik, if you're lucky, make uninstall will work (depends on whether or not the programmer wrote that part)
[06:43] <Amaranth> !mac
[06:43] <ubotu> Amaranth: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:43] <Amaranth> hrm
[06:43] <erUSUL> Orionoceros, w32codecs
[06:43] <erUSUL> !w32codecs
[06:43] <ubuntu> now i have a question: can i unmount the cd drive when using the live cd of ubuntu to copy some files from cd to hd?
[06:43] <Orionoceros> where would i find that?
[06:44] <Foodcoman> jenda: No matter, it did work on 2 desktops and 1 laptop for me.  Havent had any breakage using the 1.2.x version.
[06:44] <erUSUL> !tell Orionoceros about w32codecs
[06:44] <hmpedersen> Does anyone have experience in dualboot with xp and ubuntu.. When you install xp -after- ubuntu?
[06:44] <Foodcoman> I will let the experts recommend the safe method of getting all the codecs in.
[06:44] <Foodcoman> =)
[06:44] <jenda> Foodcoman: unfortunately, Seveas ain't here, so I'll have to explain this without support
[06:45] <Foodcoman> I trust you.
[06:45] <disasm> hmpedersen: you need to get back into ubuntu, and reinstall grub to the mbr
[06:46] <disasm> hmpedersen: if you have a live cd, try using the kernel on the live cd with parameter root=/dev/hdaX where hdaX is /
[06:46] <hmpedersen> disasm, can i use the live...
[06:46] <hmpedersen> u beat me to it..
[06:46] <vodnik> alright, I can live with that and next time I will try make uninstall (however, what if I have deleted the source code already, where can I issue this command from?)
[06:46] <erUSUL> ubuntu, you can try and force it
[06:46] <hmpedersen> Im not used to people answering my questions before i ask them.. thanx disasm :)
[06:46] <erUSUL> vodnik, untar it again
[06:47] <disasm> hmpedersen: no problem ;-)
[06:47] <refnumzx> where do source packages get installed?
[06:47] <seth_k|lappy> hmpedersen, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:47] <Foodcoman> disasm: is a mind reader
[06:47] <disasm> now if only i could answer my own questions, i'd be set ;-)
[06:48] <ubuntu> erUSUL, yes i better just try it. Is there a tool to unmount in ubuntu or do i have to do it via the shell?
[06:48] <erUSUL> ubuntu, via shell
[06:49] <jenda> Foodcoman: Automatix caused a lot of trouble, because the author got angry when someone tried to fork it to make it safer (because the author didn't let them fix it)... so there is now automatix (which it looked like was finaly gonna die) and it's brother - EasyBreezy... EasyBreezy (AKA Automatix NG) was the safer version of automatix, and it found and joined the team of EasyUbuntu... and took that name. The first joint version will be out _so
[06:49] <jenda> on_... so I can't really recommend it yet. I can, however give you a link to the last version of EasyBreezy, if you're interested.
[06:49] <jenda> !easybreezy
[06:49] <Foodcoman> jenda: Good news.  You have my vote.
[06:50] <jenda> ubotu, tell Foodcoman about easybreezy
[06:50] <Foodcoman> jenda: I am an easy sell.
[06:50] <neopolitik> what linux kernel is the latest breezy on?
[06:50] <vodnik> erUSUL:I see, easy enough, thanks.
[06:50] <no0tic> I'm trying to compile a tool that needs id3lib and I installed libid3-3.8.3-dev, but it doesn't work
[06:50] <hmpedersen> I could ofcourse allso just reinstall all.. THen id have a clean ubuntu aswell.. Been messin around a bit too much, i think
[06:50] <neopolitik> like, if my system is up to date with updates and stuff, what kernel should i have?
[06:50] <jenda> neopolitik: 2.6...
[06:50] <erUSUL> neopolitik, 2.6.12
[06:50] <neopolitik> 2.6.12-10?
[06:50] <jenda> 2.6.12
[06:51] <MoonRanger> ubotu, tell MoonRanger about easybreezy
[06:51] <no0tic> I've tried also libid3-dev with no avail
[06:51] <refnumzx> where do source packages get installed?
[06:51] <neopolitik> .  /src /usr/src
[06:51] <erUSUL> neopolitik, i do not know the exact compilation as i use custom 2.6.15-rc4
[06:52] <refnumzx> i looked there and no packages for the one i installed
[06:53] <no0tic> in dapper will transparency be present?
[06:53] <neopolitik> I have kernel 2.6.12-10 with headers of 2.6.12-9 and vmware's vmplayer errors on installation, saying "headers don't exactly match your kernel" but there's no -10 headers in the repository
[06:54] <cvt> where is the programs folder?
[06:54] <grogoreo> hi
[06:54] <coNP> cvt: what do you want with that?
[06:55] <obscenic> Salut amis
[06:55] <bDerrly> cvt, explain further...  there is /bin /usr/bin /sbin /usr/sbin
[06:55] <cvt> coNP, i want to delete some useless searchpluggins to make room for more
[06:55] <disasm> i had my ubuntu hard drive die in my ubuntu amd64 laptop, I already was capable to get the whole file system copied over to my gentoo amd64 hard drive. I need to dump a database (postgresql) with client and invoice data. The data files are in /var/lib/postgresql/7.4/main/ I've tried running ubuntu in the chroot and i can't start postgresql with the error pg_ctl: cannot be run as root (running /etc/init.d/postgresql-7.4 start) I also have an
[06:55] <jenda> Foodcoman: no problem - do not be serprised if you meet someone with a different opinion, though :) (on IRC, it's us, on the forums, it's them)
[06:55] <ubuntu> erUSUL, you know the path i have to unmount for the live distribution of ubuntu?
[06:55] <kotatsu> anyone here using dapper with an ati card? is the r300 driver included and enabled?
[06:56] <coNP> cvt: what search plugins?
[06:56] <jenda> obscenic: salut. c'est un channeai anglais... ti peux aller a #ubuntu-fr su tu veux
[06:56] <kotatsu> disasm: I'm not certain, but it's likely that the postgres user doesn't exist on your system and it can't switch to something other than root... that would be my guess, anyway
[06:56] <erUSUL> ubuntu, no sorry jus umount via de device. run mount wo arguments and take a look
[06:56] <cvt> coNP, for firefox
[06:56] <disasm> kotatsu: i can su postgres fine, but I can't run it because you need to be root to run init scripts (catch 22)
[06:56] <obscenic> ah, oui! C'est cool!
[06:57] <obscenic> merci
[06:57] <Foodcoman> jenda: I am too old to battle, I leave that for the script kiddies.  Time and experience, especially those like yourself who are paying their dues supporting others is what matters to me.
[06:57] <kotatsu> disasm: and it's not switching itself to postgres' UID after starting?
[06:58] <Knowerrors> Anybody here help with vanilla kernel compiling on Ubuntu?
[06:58] <jenda> Foodcoman: The script kiddies are busy scripting... and since I don't script - I'll do the battle... (BTW, the battle is over, but there was a rather harsh one)
[06:58] <obscenic> jenda: l'anglais pour maintenant..
[06:58] <disasm> kotatsu: i think it might be a side affect of trying to start it in a chroot, it normally su's fine
[06:58] <kotatsu> disasm: if I understand your problem right you copied the old filesystem wholesale to the gentoo box and you're running it from there... what I would do would be to install postgres on the gentoo box and access your database from that
[06:58] <obscenic> It's my first language anyhow.
[06:59] <kotatsu> disasm: do you have proc, dev, and sys bound to the chroot?
[06:59] <jenda> Ah OK obscenic :)
[06:59] <erUSUL> disasm, and moving the data files to another postgres instalation (gentoo one)?
[06:59] <disasm> kotatsu: i have proc, what do i need to do for dev and sys?
[06:59] <Knowerrors> I just did build of <IP_ADDRESS>, and am getting VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0), even though I built Reiser into root (*), any help please?
[06:59] <kotatsu> disasm: same thing, I've just noticed that programs will occasionally require access to one of the three
[06:59] <kotatsu> disasm mount -o bind
[07:00] <kotatsu> disasm: but again I would install postgres on the gentoo system and access the old dbs from there rather than trying to run your old installation
[07:00] <obscenic> An open question: noprobe as a kernel arg is not supported in Breezy. Does anyone know how to work around this and convince the kernel not to probe certain IDE's?
[07:00] <disasm> kotatsu: so mount -o bind /home/oldroot/ ???
[07:00] <vodnik> once more to compiling - is it possible to install something I self-compiled to the standard path where apt-get installs its stuff? would that mean I have to create an deb package using dpkg?
[07:00] <Foodcoman> jenda: You had a harsh one?  Tell me more......     =D
[07:01] <kotatsu> disasm: mount -o bind /proc /chroot/proc
[07:01] <kotatsu> disasm: and so on for /sys and /dev
[07:01] <hmpedersen> this makes no sense at all..
[07:01] <kotatsu> disasm: no idea if that's your problem but I've have some programs break in the past when they do stuff in those directories
[07:02] <kotatsu> disasm: it's possible it's choking on the su because it is missing something it's checking for, but then giving you the error message about su because that's the final effect
[07:02] <xiaogil> I can connect to a MS Access database with Open Office 2 Base, but how to make it a real Open Office 2 Base database ?
[07:02] <hmpedersen> Can ne1 tell me, why the live cd suddenly wont load with acpi=off.. Because it cant load the acpi modules?
[07:02] <disasm> kotatsu: su: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info.
[07:03] <korhalf> wow
[07:03] <kotatsu> disasm: not sure, I would have to see your system to get a better idea of what's going on... my suggestion is to do a fresh install of postgres on the gentoo root fs and read your dbs from there
[07:03] <kotatsu> disasm: gotta head out now though =)
[07:04] <bur[n] er> anyone have a sun java .deb package ready?
[07:04] <disasm> oh, maybe pam... hmmm how to start pam...
[07:04] <rosa> olaa
[07:06] <blanky> is there anything like ubuntu but for USB drives
[07:07] <blanky> i mean, usb drives as in those thumb drives not usb external HDs
[07:08] <StyXman> !pinning
[07:08] <ubotu> I guess pinning is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto
[07:08] <obscenic> bump ;) An open question: noprobe as a kernel arg is not supported in Breezy. Does anyone know how to work around this and convince the kernel not to probe certain IDE's?
[07:09] <Sh4d0x> hi all
[07:09] <ortner_> i need a copypaster, anyone got one+
[07:09] <StyXman> ortner_: pastebin.ca?
[07:10] <ortner_> StyXman: thansk
[07:13] <Stormx2> This is kind off-topic, but does anyone know of a freely available lyrics database which has an api in xml?
[07:13] <deltron> no clue
[07:15] <StyXman> Stormx2: you could take a look what does amarok for displaying lyrics
[07:15] <yoav> hey everyone
[07:15] <CosmoDad> how do I unpack a .deb?
[07:16] <bur[n] er> CosmoDad: file-roller?
[07:16] <bur[n] er> CosmoDad: unpack or install?
[07:16] <CarinArr> unpack or install?
[07:16] <CosmoDad> I tried dpkg -x but it lacks the debian control information...
[07:16] <yoav> anyone up for helping me with some godawful trouble?
[07:16] <CarinArr> snap;)
[07:16] <CosmoDad> CarinArr: unpack
[07:16] <Ahriman> Stormx2, do you mean something like http://lyrictracker.com/
[07:17] <CosmoDad> bur[n] er: unpack
[07:18] <bur[n] er> CosmoDad: file-roller will do it
[07:18] <Linuturk_work> error: adresses from (#ubuntu) not saved. (too many users) << ha, congrats
[07:18] <CosmoDad> bur[n] er: ok, thanks... thought I remembered using dpkg last time..
[07:18] <StyXman> yoav: let give it a try...
[07:18] <nickrud> CosmoDad, dpkg -x works on the command line
[07:19] <CosmoDad> nickrud: it won't include the debian/ dir, at least not on the skype package I'm trying to unpack
[07:19] <nickrud> CosmoDad, heh, I wrote that, read back, now I'm in the man page :)
[07:20] <Stormx2> Ahriman: I don't see any kinda API for that though >.<
[07:20] <yoav> ok. i'm trying to install the breezy monkey thing, and someone was helping me with going through the base installation and doing the rest from there, but i could not startx
[07:20] <Shadyman> Hey all.
[07:20] <yoav> if plasmoduck is out there he could probably explain some more
[07:20] <kotton136> afternoon and I have a question, new to ubuntu, and trying to install yahoo, have tried everything I have read but it isn't working. Any quick short cuts to this?
[07:21] <StyXman> yoav: in which step are ypu now?
[07:21] <nickrud> CosmoDad, according to man dpkg, dpkg -e is what you're looking for, I think
[07:21] <yoav> plasmoduck, you there?
[07:21] <CosmoDad> nickrud: that only extracts control data
[07:21] <Sh4d0x> *shadox went for dinner
[07:22] <yoav> styxman, not being able to configure the x server to startx
[07:22] <yoav> jsz?
[07:22] <Ahriman> Stormx2, aha ..now i understand what you want ..i continue my search :)
[07:22] <Stormx2> Ahriman: I'm looking too ;-)
[07:22] <StyXman> yoav: ah, the system is full up?
[07:22] <CosmoDad> nickrud: I want both
[07:22] <nickrud> CosmoDad, I think that the debian/ dir is only in the sources (been a while since I investigated that, so...) This is what I get for swooping into the channel and typing without thinking ;(
[07:23] <johnathan> hey
[07:23] <obscenic> whoa.
[07:23] <Stormx2> Eek. Netsplit
[07:23] <Shadyman> Oh wow.
[07:23] <obscenic> what happened?
[07:24] <Stormx2> netsplit methinks ^____^
[07:24] <seth_k|lappy> just a netsplit
[07:24] <Shadyman> heh. I love the internet :D
[07:24] <CosmoDad> nickrud: no the control data is part of every .deb, it contains stuff like dependencies
[07:24] <DrZeus> hi all.  Question: how is it done for writing addresses in nautilus, rather than clicking icons and buttons?
[07:25] <yoav> can anyone help? styxman?
[07:25] <hmpedersen> DrZeus, ctrl+l
[07:25] <DrZeus> and which lines do I have to edit in xorg.conf for decreasing the speed of my touchpad?
[07:25] <DrZeus> hmpedersen: thnx
[07:25] <hmpedersen> DrZeus, np..
[07:25] <Eleaf> Dr_Acemaster, couldn't you just use the mouse preferences?
[07:26] <thoreauputic> DrZeus: hit ctrl-h
[07:26] <thoreauputic> oops
[07:26] <DrZeus> hmpedersen: btw do u know which lines are needed to edit in xorg.conf for lowering the speed of the cursor(or the sensitivity i dont know)?
[07:26] <hmpedersen> DrZeus, no sorry
[07:26] <thoreauputic> ctrl -l  sorry ( ctrl - h is for hidden files)
[07:26] <Eleaf> DrZeus, why not just edit it with the mouse preferences?
[07:26] <DrZeus> Eleaf: doesnt work
[07:26] <Eleaf> oh ok
[07:26] <korhalf> why not just use the terminal
[07:26] <Eleaf> are you using an ibook?
[07:27] <nickrud> CosmoDad, so, dpkg -e extracts control.tar.gz, right? and ./debian is from the source file I thought
[07:27] <DrZeus> Eleaf: is a toshiba satellite L10
[07:27] <Eleaf> oh
[07:27] <Eleaf> with my ibook, I couldn't really find anything that had to do with changing the touchpads sensitivity
[07:27] <Eleaf> I'm not sure though
[07:27] <Shadyman> Eleaf: I have the same thing.
[07:27] <nickrud> *source deb
[07:27] <CosmoDad> nickrud: try dpkg-deb -x on any binary package, it'll unpack a DEBIAN/ dir