[05:38] <bduk> More almal
[05:56] <Kilos> morning bduk  superfly  nlsthzn  nuvolari_  inetpro  theblazehen  and others
[05:57] <Kilos> eish we have a meeting tonight
[06:00] <Squirm> morning
[06:00] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[06:00] <Kilos> nuvolari_  dont forget you are the chair tonight hey
[06:04] <Squirm> handing in my notice today
[06:04]  * Squirm shivers
[06:04] <Kilos> sjoe
[06:04] <Kilos> no more free chow
[06:05] <superfly> morning
[06:08] <Squirm> morning superfly
[06:08] <Squirm> Kilos: nope :P
[06:12] <theblazehen> hey Kilos
[06:15] <superfly> Kilos: we're taking things as they come... if I'm here then I'm here.
[06:15] <Kilos> thats fine ty superfly  , hows the newling?
[06:16] <Kilos> and mom?
[06:37]  * Squirm goes and squats in nuvolari_'s garden
[06:38] <theblazehen> hi Squirm
[06:39] <Squirm> hi
[06:40] <Kilos> eish eish eish
[06:40] <Kilos> 8ta moved night surfer to from midnight to 7 am
[06:41] <theblazehen> Kilos: what was it before?
[06:42] <Kilos> 11pm to 6 am
[06:42] <theblazehen> ah
[06:42] <Kilos> would have been nice to have them notify me first though
[06:43] <theblazehen> Kilos: how much do you pay, for how much?
[06:43] <theblazehen> you see https://www.afrihost.com/site/product/mobile_data?
[06:44] <Kilos> R149 for 2+1 bundle
[06:44] <Kilos> isnt afrihost with mtn?
[06:44] <theblazehen> R145 for 2+2 on afrihost
[06:44] <theblazehen> yeah, but resells it
[06:45] <Kilos> ya but the mtn tower here is edge only
[06:45] <Kilos> i cant go back to 9 hour upgrades
[06:48] <theblazehen> Ai
[06:51] <theblazehen> Kilos: only telecom got good signal?
[06:51] <Kilos> and voda but voda very unstable
[06:52] <Kilos> but fast when working
[06:52] <Kilos> 8ta signal full strength
[06:54] <Kilos> and 8 call centre is so much faster and more efficient
[06:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[06:56] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[06:57] <Kilos> skype is huge hey, near 48 million people online
[07:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> 47255229
[07:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> phew that is a lot
[07:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> when i started using skype there were typically about 8 million online
[07:03] <Kilos> yeah no wonder the net battles. i spose most are on video calls too
[07:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> heh
[07:04] <Kilos> i just use it in im mode
[07:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah skype is killing the internet
[07:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> or maybe 3G is just inherently flaky
[07:04] <Kilos> because some peeps dont do msn mxit or irc
[07:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> mmmm wonder which it is?
[07:05] <Kilos> haha you dont like 3g
[07:05] <Kilos> i think my setup could do vido calls but the cost will kill me
[07:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> its not that, but you keep saying the internet sucks but it really doesn't
[07:07] <Kilos> i mean that its not always good and fast
[07:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> that isn't skype's fault
[07:07] <Kilos> like heavily over loaded at times
[07:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> no it isn't
[07:07] <Kilos> ah
[07:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> "the" internet is fine
[07:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> "your" connection is flaky
[07:07] <Kilos> no man
[07:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes man
[07:07] <Kilos> rofl
[07:08] <Kilos> do you always get fast download speed or does it chop and change
[07:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> its fast 99% of the time
[07:08] <Kilos> whew thats lekker
[07:09] <Kilos> so its the mobile peeps that get overloaded
[07:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> wireless is just like that
[07:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> so many factors, not only how many people are online
[07:10] <Kilos> aha
[07:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> don't aha, this isn't news
[07:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> i told you this every night for a month while you were moaning about the minetest server :P
[07:10] <Kilos> you mean like dust and fog etc
[07:11] <inetpro> good morning
[07:11] <theblazehen> hey inetpro, ThatGraemeGuy
[07:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo 'lo
[07:11] <Kilos> hi inetpro  please do the g+ thing
[07:11] <theblazehen> Kilos: yeah, ThatGraemeGuy is correct.  So yeah
[07:25] <theblazehen> for once I <3 school internet :) got 25 mbit on speed test
[07:25] <Kilos> lol
[07:26] <theblazehen> wonder if they use VDSL or the new telkom fibre?
[07:33] <theblazehen> intel's windows OpenGL drivers suck..
[07:33] <theblazehen> school has HD 2600, at home I get better performance with linux HD2000
[07:36] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy: IS BLACK POWER CABLES 9000 mv?
[07:36] <Kilos> yip
[07:36] <theblazehen> shit, caps lock
[07:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> #minetest-za
[07:38] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy: yeah, ok
[08:43] <Squirm> the new big bang theory is out ^^
[08:43] <Squirm> I get to watch it tonight LO
[08:43] <Squirm> :P
[08:54] <Kilos> lol i enjoy that
[09:01] <Kilos> hi jrgns
[09:01] <Kilos> asnd Xethron
[09:02] <jrgns> Hey all
[09:39] <Kilos> oi inetpro  wat het jy nou weer gebreek
[09:39] <inetpro> ai! Jy vra vir my?
[09:40] <Kilos> also like you okes are on wireless
[09:40] <Kilos> hehe
[09:41] <Squirm> I'm looking at getting the Telkom Mobile 60Gb deal
[09:41] <Squirm> once I've moved
[09:41] <Squirm> if I have no adsl where I am
[09:42] <theblazehen> Squirm: and I'm just waiting for fibre...
[09:42] <Squirm> Kilos: what 3G do you have?
[09:42] <Kilos> ya thats good that one if you can afford it
[09:42] <Kilos> telkom
[09:42] <Squirm> theblazehen: my new work place will probably have 20Mb fibre when I start
[09:42] <Kilos> 8ta the best imo
[09:42] <Kilos> thats lekker
[09:42] <Squirm> Kilos: Credit Card, pay it off monthly like a normal account
[09:42] <Squirm> ^^
[09:42] <Kilos> prepaid Squirm
[09:43] <theblazehen> Squirm: nice. From Telkom or where?
[09:44] <Kilos> i get a 2+1 bundle as i need it. used to be 2 months on a 2+1 but minetest changed that a bit
[09:44] <Kilos> 8ta
[09:44] <Kilos> buy at any supermarket or post office etc
[09:44] <Kilos> some of the supermarkets give you discount as well
[09:46] <Squirm> theblazehen: R1800 once off, Telkom Mobile gives you 60Gb+60Gb to use in 12 Months
[09:46] <Squirm> Maaz: 1800/12
[09:46] <Maaz> Squirm: 150.0
[09:46] <Squirm> so that's 5Gb+5Gb for R150pm
[09:46] <theblazehen> Maaz: 120/12
[09:46] <Maaz> theblazehen: 10.0
[09:46] <Squirm> if you're diligent enough to stop yourself after 5Gb...
[09:46] <Kilos> yeah
[09:47] <Squirm> Afrihost has a 3Gb+3Gb for R200pm
[09:48] <Squirm> their 5Gb+5Gb is R300pm
[09:48] <Squirm> double the price
[09:48] <Kilos> yeah its just finding the initial cash to get the big one
[09:49] <Kilos> but i maintain so far just had to cut gaming
[09:49] <Squirm> yeah, I like keeping up to date with a few movies/series from time to time
[09:50] <Kilos> im trying to save for an i5 cpu
[09:50] <Squirm> aha
[09:50] <Squirm> have you got one you're looking at?
[09:51] <Kilos> best price was r2200 i think
[09:51] <Kilos> but that will take a years saving, but this dual core is fine till then
[09:51] <Kilos> at least i got a motherboard that can upgrade
[09:52] <Kilos> 1155
[09:53] <Kilos> haha took 2.5 years to save up for the m/board with 4g ddr3 dvdwriter and a few psu's
[09:53] <Kilos> hi Private_User
[09:54] <theblazehen> Kilos: I have a i3-2100 with LGA 1155 that I'm probably not gonna use soon
[09:55] <Kilos> you going i7 theblazehen
[09:55] <theblazehen> Kilos: yeah
[09:55] <Kilos> lekker
[09:56] <theblazehen> Yep :D gonna install it tonight, as well as my SSD
[09:56] <Kilos> haha
[09:57] <Kilos> im waiting on my new drive, the promised it today
[09:58] <Kilos> trying to decide meantime whether to install 14.04 in unity or kde flavours
[09:58] <theblazehen> Ah. Xfce?
[09:59] <theblazehen> Look of xubuntu is really nice
[09:59] <Kilos> i tried xubuntu with 12.04 but couldnt get some things working
[09:59] <theblazehen> Or reddit.com/r/unixporn/top for inspiration
[09:59] <Kilos> i need stuff that just works, so i dont need help all the time
[10:08] <Kilos> i spose i can get xubuntu-desktop on unity one night if i can stay up
[10:08] <theblazehen> Kilos: and maybe remove the unity stuff. Xfce is more lightweight
[10:09] <Kilos> lol i like unity when its working
[10:09] <Kilos> but lightweight is good too
[10:10] <Kilos> actually 14.04 unity isnt bad, it just the setting up that is a pain for me
[10:12] <Kilos> but id still like gnome2 back
[10:12] <Kilos> mate on unity was faster but i can remember why i stopped using it
[10:21] <Squirm> that's why I used Linux Mint Mate
[10:21] <Squirm> Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu
[10:22] <Squirm> and Mate is the Gnome 2 stule
[10:22] <Squirm> style
[10:22] <Kilos> yeah
[10:22] <Squirm> but now I'm using Cinnamon on my Home machine
[10:22] <Squirm> I prefer it
[10:22] <Squirm> not that great in terms of dual monitor display, but it works
[10:23] <Kilos> maybe ill try mate again
[10:23] <Kilos> but even mate is a modified gnome2
[10:31] <Squirm> yes
[10:31] <Squirm> it will be
[10:32] <Squirm> you could probably just install gnome 2 on the latest Ubuntu, couldn't you?
[10:38] <Kilos> wow i dunno
[10:39] <Kilos> gnome 2 was way faster than unity and kde
[10:39] <Kilos> lemme google
[10:40] <Kilos> oh maybe its what they call classic
[10:40] <Squirm> yes
[10:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> xfce is nice and light
[10:49] <Kilos> for starters ill try gnome-session-flashback methinks
[10:50] <Kilos> but not on my kde
[10:51] <Kilos> ill keep that as is
[10:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> heh
[10:51] <Squirm> fallback
[10:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> um Kilos you do realise you can install as many DEs as you want and switch between them at login, you don't have to maintain a whole separate O/S install
[10:51] <Kilos> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/ubuntu-14-04-classic-gnome-flashback-session
[10:52] <Kilos> yeah ThatGraemeGuy  i had mate on unity in 12.04 i thinks and it showed classic if im not mistaken
[10:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> "mate on unity" makes no sense, both are DEs and neither depends on the other
[10:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> you have them both, not 1 on the other
[10:53] <theblazehen> Squirm: tried a tiling wm?
[10:54] <Squirm> theblazehen: nope
[10:55] <Kilos> lol the first unity was a major shock
[10:56] <Kilos> so i hunted for something i was more familiar with
[10:56] <Kilos> unity lost ubuntu many followers
[10:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm surprised its still around, i thought it'd be dead by now
[10:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> XFCE ftw!
[10:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> xfce+ssd = happiness
[10:57] <Kilos> it is growing i think, canonical must have some plan
[10:57] <Kilos> very resource hungry though
[10:57] <Kilos> but kde even hungrier
[11:00] <Squirm> lunch time
[11:00] <Squirm> lol ThatGraemeGuy, I used Linux Mint Cinnamon with my SSD, works too well :D. The slowest part of my PC is waiting for POST...
[11:00] <Squirm> maybe I can change it to quick boot
[11:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah
[11:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> used to be that a reboot was a thing to be avoided at all costs, now i don't care
[11:01] <Squirm> yeah
[11:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> POST literally takes longer than boot
[11:01] <Squirm> yes
[11:01] <Squirm> it bugs me :/
[11:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> a reboot takes about 5 seconds i think
[11:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> login, apps open
[11:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> magic
[11:01] <Squirm> I also have a delay on GRUB
[11:02] <Squirm> 5s I think
[11:02] <Squirm> so I'm up in about 15s
[11:02]  * ThatGraemeGuy reboots for fun
[11:02] <Squirm> I must actually time it when I get home :P
[11:02] <Squirm> ...
[11:02] <Squirm> he did just do that
[11:02] <Squirm> bbl, lunch
[11:02] <Squirm> Maaz: tell ThatGraemeGuy that I'll time mine when I'm home^^^
[11:02] <Maaz> Squirm: Sure, I'll tell ThatGraemeGuy on freenode
[11:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> takes longer to reconnect to irc than to reboot
[12:13] <Squirm> lol
[12:16] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy: /me is gonna be installing my first SSD today.. Can't wait
[12:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> nice :)
[14:07] <Kilos> nuvolari_  ping
[14:24] <georgl_> anybody running ubuntu 14.04LTS?
[14:25] <Squirm> I have resigned :D
[14:25] <Squirm> new job - here I come
[14:28] <Kilos> good
[14:28]  * Kilos cries
[14:28] <Kilos> dont use first freight
[14:29] <Kilos> they used to deliver next day now sommer say thursday
[14:29] <Kilos> should have been here before lunch today
[14:51] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee on
[14:51]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[14:55] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[14:55] <Kilos> Maaz  ty
[14:56] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[16:32] <StonedAlchemist> Kilos-, hi
[16:32] <Kilos-> hi StonedAlchemist
[16:32] <StonedAlchemist> How are you doing?
[16:32] <Kilos> well ty and you?
[16:33] <StonedAlchemist> Not bad. Kinda bored lol
[16:33] <Kilos> lol if you got uncapped play minetest
[16:34] <StonedAlchemist> I'm trying to take a break from sandbox games.
[16:34] <Kilos> hahaha
[16:34] <StonedAlchemist> Especially now that Microsoft own Mojang
[16:34] <StonedAlchemist> That was quite a surprise.
[16:34] <Kilos> i only discovered how lekker it is a few months ago
[16:35] <StonedAlchemist> I've been playing minecraft since beta 1.6
[16:35] <Kilos> oh , no we play the free one
[16:36] <StonedAlchemist> Yeah I've tried it the other day.
[18:31] <nlsthzn> o/
[18:31] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn
[18:31] <nlsthzn> Maaz, I am Neil Oosthuizen
[18:31] <Maaz> nlsthzn: What?
[18:31] <nlsthzn> >.<
[18:31] <Kilos> oh my i forgot about the meeting
[18:32] <Kilos> inetpro  ping
[18:32] <nlsthzn> ah meeting not started yet?
[18:32] <Kilos> nuvolari_  ping
[18:32] <nlsthzn> lol
[18:32] <Kilos> nope
[18:34] <Kilos> hellooooooo
[18:34] <Kilos> sjoe what a blow
[18:35] <nlsthzn> how are you uncle Kilos ?
[18:35] <Kilos> im ok ty nlsthzn  and you lad
[18:35]  * nlsthzn was just dd'ing an iso to usb :p
[18:35] <Kilos> and family?
[18:35] <theblazehen> nlsthzn: /me JUST did that!
[18:35] <nlsthzn> we are doing quiet well, wife is getting fairly pregnant now :p
[18:35] <nuvolari_> .
[18:35] <theblazehen> oh the meeting!
[18:36] <nlsthzn> :)
[18:36] <nuvolari> crappy network at home :'(
[18:36] <nlsthzn> :(
[18:36] <nuvolari> > 7 s lag
[18:36] <theblazehen> nlsthzn: making the baby's the fun part! (Probably don't get the reference...)
[18:36] <Kilos> ai!
[18:36] <nlsthzn> lol
[18:36] <nuvolari> well, make that factors of10s
[18:37] <nlsthzn> I am also having lag... of 0.1s ;)
[18:37] <Kilos> ya me 520 ms
[18:37] <nuvolari> hang hight
[18:37] <nuvolari> tight
[18:37] <theblazehen> nlsthzn: 0.2 here.. At school it's often >30
[18:37] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:38] <nuvolari> much better
[18:38] <nuvolari> 8ta to the resque
[18:38] <Kilos> lol
[18:39] <nuvolari> I have provided wifi but some traffic is rediculous
[18:39] <nuvolari> Maaz: agenda
[18:39] <Maaz> nuvolari: Huh?
[18:39] <nuvolari> Maaz: agenda.link
[18:39] <Maaz> nuvolari: *blink*
[18:39] <nuvolari> Maaz: meeting.agenda
[18:39] <Maaz> nuvolari: meeting.agenda is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20140923
[18:40] <theblazehen> Events -> "//TODO" lol
[18:40] <nuvolari> Maaz: start meeting about Monthly Ubuntu-ZA IRC meeting (September 23, 2014)
[18:40]  * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[18:40] <nuvolari> Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt
[18:40] <Maaz> nuvolari: Alrighty
[18:40] <Kilos> Maaz  I am Miles Sharpe
[18:40] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[18:40] <nuvolari> Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction
[18:40] <Maaz> Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction
[18:40] <nuvolari> oh hi everyone :)
[18:40] <nuvolari> welcome to tonight's meeting
[18:40] <Kilos> ohi stranger
[18:40] <nuvolari> thank you for everyone's time
[18:41] <nlsthzn> Maaz, I am Neil Oosthuizen
[18:41] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Done
[18:41] <nuvolari> thank you oom kilos for reminding me... I have forgotten
[18:41] <Kilos> lol
[18:41] <nuvolari> meh, new job is tough. my boss is uber-smart
[18:41]  * Kilos thinks interest in meets is waning
[18:42] <Kilos> the fly send apologies but life took over
[18:42] <nuvolari> got an offer from google but he declined
[18:42] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:42] <nuvolari> superfly: congratulations to you and mrs. fly on the little one :D
[18:42] <nlsthzn> +
[18:42] <nlsthzn> +1
[18:43] <nuvolari> alrighty
[18:43] <nuvolari> any new members since last time?
[18:43] <nuvolari> if you have not read that question before tonight, you're a candidate
[18:43] <Kilos> theblazehen  login please
[18:44] <theblazehen> Maaz: I am Jeandre Henderson
[18:44] <Maaz> theblazehen: Sure
[18:44] <nuvolari> hmm
[18:44] <nuvolari> Maaz: seen kmf
[18:44] <Maaz> nuvolari: kmf was last seen 4 years, 1 month, 4 days, 7 hours, 35 minutes and 42 seconds ago in #glug.za on freenode [2010-09-10 04:08:51 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2010-09-10 04:09:18 PDT
[18:44] <Kilos> StonedAlchemist   login please
[18:44] <nuvolari> :'(
[18:44] <nuvolari> is it really that long?
[18:45] <Kilos> yip
[18:45] <StonedAlchemist> login on what?
[18:45] <Kilos> inetpro  and theblazehen  went to sfd
[18:45] <theblazehen> nlsthzn: Karl Fischer I assume?
[18:45] <nlsthzn> ?
[18:45] <theblazehen> nlsthzn: kmf
[18:45] <Kilos> StonedAlchemist  type in maaz I am :name:
[18:46] <StonedAlchemist> Maaz I am StonedAlchemist
[18:46] <Kilos> "name"
[18:46] <Maaz> StonedAlchemist: Righto
[18:46] <Kilos> no man name not nick
[18:46] <nlsthzn> I have no idea
[18:46] <nuvolari> theblazehen: yeah
[18:46] <nuvolari> that's him
[18:46] <StonedAlchemist> Maaz I am "name"
[18:46] <Maaz> StonedAlchemist: Done
[18:46] <Kilos> rofl
[18:46] <nuvolari> lol
[18:46] <StonedAlchemist> Eh what's that do?
[18:46]  * Kilos kicks StonedAlchemist
[18:46] <nuvolari> you're really stoned
[18:46] <theblazehen> nuvolari: ah. Find him hilarious.. In a good way
[18:46] <nuvolari> :P
[18:47] <StonedAlchemist> Nah not that stoned.
[18:47] <nuvolari> Maaz: topic review previous minutes
[18:47] <Maaz> Current Topic: review previous minutes
[18:47] <nuvolari> http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2014-08-26-18-30-22.txt
[18:48] <theblazehen> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152297627960764&set=a.10152297624365764.1073741829.720760763&type=1&theater I look crap in photos...
[18:48] <Kilos> inetpro  ping
[18:49] <Kilos> which one is you?
[18:50] <nuvolari> lol @ Miggie
[18:50] <nuvolari> er
[18:50] <nuvolari> Muggie
[18:50] <theblazehen> Kilos: very right, at back
[18:50] <Kilos> aha
[18:50] <nuvolari> oh wait, is that a real name? Muggie?
[18:50] <Kilos> you look the youngest there
[18:51] <nuvolari> If you're here Muggie, own your name, it's awesome!
[18:51] <theblazehen> Kilos: think I was 2nd, but youngest in photo
[18:51] <nuvolari> one is never too young to promote OSS
[18:51] <nuvolari> *FLOSS
[18:52] <Kilos> nuvolari  i dont think there is much to talk about
[18:53] <nlsthzn> nothing exciting happening in ZA land in regards to Ubuntu etc?
[18:53] <Kilos> and we low on members tonight
[18:53] <Kilos> everyone too busy nlsthzn
[18:54] <nlsthzn> know the feeling
[18:54] <nuvolari> ugh. net. slow
[18:54] <Kilos> np  nuvolari  well wait
[18:54] <Kilos> move on when you ready
[18:55]  * nuvolari is busy creating next month's agenda :P
[18:55] <nuvolari> does anyone want to mention something from the last meeting's minutes?
[18:57] <nlsthzn> no, not really :p
[18:58] <Kilos> nope
[18:59] <nuvolari> bah :(
[18:59] <nuvolari> okei
[19:01] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[19:01] <nuvolari> Do you guys want to discuss releases?
[19:01] <nuvolari> almost time for the next one :D
[19:01] <nlsthzn> well ubuntu touch just went rtm...
[19:01] <nlsthzn> 14.04.1 is pretty stable
[19:01] <Kilos> nuvolari  ive decided to just go from lts to lts
[19:01] <nuvolari> Utopic Unicorn
[19:01] <nlsthzn> and 14.10 is a unicorn :D
[19:01] <nuvolari> smart choice oom Kilos :D
[19:01] <nuvolari> I'll do the same on work stuff
[19:01] <nuvolari> *computers/devices
[19:02] <nuvolari> nlsthzn: eh? rtm? read the manual?
[19:02] <nlsthzn> release to manufacturers
[19:02] <nuvolari> ah
[19:02] <nlsthzn> *spellinh
[19:02] <nlsthzn> >><
[19:03] <nlsthzn> ah I got it right :p
[19:03] <nuvolari> these day's I get less excited about new releases :P
[19:03] <nuvolari> stuff should just work
[19:03] <nlsthzn> and they mostly do
[19:03] <nuvolari> +1
[19:03] <nuvolari> except for NVidia drivers on my new lappy :'(
[19:03] <nlsthzn> intel/nvidia?
[19:03] <nuvolari> reverted to nuveau(?) driver
[19:04] <nlsthzn> hybrid gfx?
[19:04] <nuvolari> nvidia (if NVidia isn't clear enough :P )
[19:04] <nuvolari> uhm...  :P
[19:09] <nuvolari> it sucks to do a fresh itstall
[19:09] <nuvolari> my hands felt cut off the first 2 or 3 days
[19:09] <nuvolari> until I installed everything that was missing
[19:10] <nlsthzn> I am used to fresh installs sadly
[19:10] <Kilos> lol save home man
[19:10] <nuvolari> ok ok, need a move on
[19:10] <nlsthzn> I do save home but don't want any crud left over so I delete all configs :p
[19:10] <nuvolari> Maaz: topic Events
[19:10] <Maaz> Current Topic: Events
[19:10] <nuvolari> I missed SFD :'(
[19:10] <nuvolari> anyone attended?
[19:10] <nuvolari> theblazehen: you attended eh?
[19:11] <Kilos> theblazehen  feedback plase
[19:11] <theblazehen> nuvolari: yeah
[19:11] <Kilos> please too
[19:11] <theblazehen> Kilos: well it was pretty awesome, really enjoyed the talks on Docker as well as on Ansible
[19:11] <nuvolari> does anyone have some linkage we can add for the events section?
[19:11] <nuvolari> for the past SFD?
[19:11] <theblazehen> met inetpro there as well, maybe get his input too?
[19:12] <nuvolari> oom inetpro
[19:12] <Kilos> he is hiding tonight
[19:12] <nuvolari> ek sal die kierie gaan haal
[19:15] <nuvolari> none?
[19:15] <Kilos> nuvolari  move on ill try get feedback from the pro during the week
[19:16] <nlsthzn> well 14.10 is coming in October... should there be some planning for this?
[19:16] <nuvolari> okies
[19:16] <nuvolari> yeah
[19:16] <nuvolari> by someone with free time :P
[19:16] <nuvolari> more free time
[19:16] <Kilos> lol
[19:16] <nlsthzn> :)
[19:16] <nlsthzn> I won't be able to make it , just fyi :p
[19:17] <Kilos> make what nlsthzn  ?
[19:17] <nlsthzn> make it to the next release party
[19:17] <nuvolari> oh fudge :(
[19:17] <Kilos> lol
[19:17] <nuvolari> Maaz: topic
[19:17] <Maaz> nuvolari: Sorry...
[19:17] <nuvolari> Maaz: current topic
[19:17] <Maaz> nuvolari: Excuse me?
[19:17] <nuvolari> Maaz: what is the current topic?
[19:17] <Maaz> nuvolari: I'm afraid I have no idea
[19:18] <nlsthzn> events
[19:18] <nuvolari> Maaz: help me!
[19:18] <Kilos> hehe
[19:18] <Maaz> nuvolari: Please be more specific. I don't know if you mean help or http
[19:18] <nuvolari> Maaz: help me with the current topic
[19:18] <Maaz> nuvolari: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features.
[19:18] <nuvolari> >:(
[19:18] <nlsthzn> *sigh* events
[19:18] <nuvolari> Maaz: events
[19:18] <Maaz> nuvolari: Excuse me?
[19:18] <nuvolari> oh
[19:18] <nuvolari> lol
[19:18] <nlsthzn> >.<
[19:18]  * nuvolari facepalms
[19:18] <nuvolari> thanks nlsthzn
[19:19] <nlsthzn> np :p
[19:19] <nuvolari> Maaz: agree Do some planning for the next release
[19:19] <Maaz> nuvolari: Got it
[19:20] <nuvolari> Maaz: topic Tech
[19:20] <Maaz> Current Topic: Tech
[19:20] <nuvolari> Any new tech?
[19:20] <nuvolari> not ios8
[19:20] <nuvolari> *cough
[19:20] <nuvolari> *
[19:20] <nlsthzn> 10 million sales in 3 days
[19:21] <nlsthzn> way to go for 2012 tech
[19:21] <nuvolari> that's a lot of sheep
[19:21] <nlsthzn> +1
[19:22] <nuvolari> ow, the office manager dropped her phone yesterday :'(
[19:22] <nuvolari> HTC, screen is looking pretty at an angle...
[19:22] <nuvolari> but that's about it
[19:23] <nlsthzn> :/
[19:24] <nuvolari> I think it's time to wrap up
[19:24] <nuvolari> not much activity tonight
[19:24] <nuvolari> also, tomorrow is braai day :D
[19:24] <Kilos> close nuvolari
[19:24] <nuvolari> anyone braaiing?
[19:24]  * nlsthzn can then install :p
[19:24] <nlsthzn> or go to bed
[19:24] <nuvolari> alrighty,
[19:25] <nuvolari> I'll chair if I'm available next time
[19:25] <nuvolari> just remind me again oom Kilos  :P
[19:25] <nuvolari> please
[19:25] <nlsthzn> :)
[19:25] <nuvolari> Maaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting
[19:25] <Maaz> Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting
[19:25] <Kilos> ty nuvolari  the job is yours
[19:25] <nuvolari> Maaz: agree nuvolari is available for chair at next meeting
[19:25] <Maaz> nuvolari: If you say so
[19:26] <nuvolari> Maaz: agree next meeting date 28 October 2014
[19:26] <Maaz> nuvolari: What?
[19:26] <Kilos> ai!
[19:26] <nuvolari> Maaz: agree next meeting date 28 October 2014
[19:26] <Maaz> nuvolari: *blink*
[19:26] <nlsthzn> and if you guys have some bandwidth and data, check out http://youtu.be/uRGljemfwUE?list=UUGPIwbu3YyixeLfwar9Eltg for a lol or two
[19:26] <nuvolari> Maaz: luister nou vir my!
[19:26] <Maaz> nuvolari: *blink*
[19:26] <nuvolari> Maaz agree next meeting date 28 October 2014
[19:26] <Maaz> nuvolari: What?
[19:26] <Kilos> agreed
[19:26] <nuvolari> Maaz: agreed next meeting date 28 October 2014
[19:26] <Maaz> Agreed: next meeting date 28 October 2014
[19:27] <nuvolari> er, that means I'v emissed all the other agreeds :(
[19:27] <nuvolari> hrrr!
[19:27] <Kilos> lol
[19:27] <nuvolari> next time
[19:27] <nuvolari> Maaz: topic Next meeting date
[19:27] <Maaz> Current Topic: Next meeting date
[19:27] <nuvolari> Maaz: agreed next meeting date is 28 October 2014
[19:27] <Maaz> Agreed: next meeting date is 28 October 2014
[19:27] <nuvolari> Maaz: topic closing
[19:27] <Maaz> Current Topic: closing
[19:27] <nlsthzn> lol
[19:28] <nuvolari> well, thank you for attending everyone
[19:28] <Kilos> ty for chairing nuvolari
[19:28] <nuvolari> oom Kilos, theblazehen, nlsthzn
[19:28] <Kilos> thanks guys for attending
[19:28] <nuvolari> you're welcome oom Kilos
[19:28] <nlsthzn> thanks everyone, have a good evening
[19:28] <Kilos> sleep  tight nlsthzn
[19:28] <nuvolari> may you all have a nice evening and good night, and have an awesome day tomorrow
[19:28] <Kilos> ty nuvolari  you too
[19:28] <nuvolari> nlsthzn: not sure if you have anything, but have a great day tomorrow to :)
[19:28] <nuvolari> thanks oom :>
[19:29] <nlsthzn> thx
[19:29] <Kilos> and visit now and again
[19:29] <nlsthzn> will do :)
[19:30] <nuvolari> Maaz: end meeting
[19:30] <Maaz> Meeting Ended
[19:30] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2014-09-23-18-40-18.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2014-09-23-18-40-18.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2014-09-23-18-40-18.html
[19:32] <nuvolari> Maaz: meeting.agenda
[19:32] <Maaz> nuvolari: meeting.agenda is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20140923
[19:32] <nuvolari> Maaz: forget about meeting.agenda
[19:32] <Maaz> nuvolari: I didn't know about about meeting.agenda anyway
[19:32] <nuvolari> Maaz: forget meeting.agenda
[19:32] <Maaz> nuvolari: Okay
[19:32] <nuvolari> Maaz: meeting.agenda is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20141028
[19:32] <Maaz> nuvolari: I'll remember that
[19:55] <Kilos> night all sleep tight


[08:29] <mup> Bug #1958451 opened: power_driver parameter is not preserved <cdo-qa> <foundations-engine> <MAAS:Fix Committed by alexsander-souza> <MAAS 3.2:Fix Released by alexsander-souza> <MAAS 3.3:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1958451>
[08:29] <mup> Bug #2003888 opened: Grouped machine list view: Inconsistent display when machine state changes <MAAS:Fix Committed by petermakowski> <MAAS 3.3:Fix Released by petermakowski> <maas-ui:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2003888>
[09:02] <mup> Bug # changed: 1818349, 1822499, 1823195, 1826275, 1826850
[09:11] <mup> Bug #1828311 changed: Duplicate events in both DEBUG/INFO <log> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1828311>
[09:14] <mup> Bug #1828311 opened: Duplicate events in both DEBUG/INFO <log> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1828311>
[09:20] <mup> Bug #1828311 changed: Duplicate events in both DEBUG/INFO <log> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1828311>
[09:26] <mup> Bug #1828311 opened: Duplicate events in both DEBUG/INFO <log> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1828311>
[09:32] <mup> Bug #1828311 changed: Duplicate events in both DEBUG/INFO <log> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1828311>
[15:00] <mup> Bug #2016159 opened: MAAS reports wrong number of disks in webui for deployed machines <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2016159>
[15:03] <mup> Bug #2016159 changed: MAAS reports wrong number of disks in webui for deployed machines <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2016159>
[15:06] <mup> Bug #2016159 opened: MAAS reports wrong number of disks in webui for deployed machines <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2016159>
[15:57] <mup> Bug #2016159 changed: MAAS reports wrong number of disks in webui for deployed machines <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2016159>