[07:01] <mib_hoimx7d7> amenado: i dont know it was already there
[07:01] <ambar> i cannot get connected to Yahoo/MSN/gtalk with Pidgin. someone please HELP
[07:01] <mib_hoimx7d7> amenado: is it not necesary?
[07:01] <amenado> mib_hoimx7d7-> what does your /mnt/boot/grub/device.map  content says?
[07:01] <Hemebond> Alright, who's the idiot who pushed out a Flash update?
[07:02] <mib_hoimx7d7> amenado: (hd0)    /dev/sda
[07:02] <dobblego> when I type groups, I see that I am not in the group fuse, so I try to add myself to the group fuse, only to get a message that I am already in the group fuse, wtf? http://rafb.net/p/wcYwdo35.html
[07:02] <jc> ambar, are you getting an error message? I'm connected to all three right now without trouble
[07:03] <kavik> why... helo..
[07:03] <kavik> hello*
[07:03] <ambar> it just say's " Failed to connect to server"
[07:03] <amenado> mib_hoimx7d7-> do you see the stage1.5 in your /mnt/boot/grub?
[07:04] <kavik> is the live CD of Ubuntu supposed to be ridiculously slow?
[07:04] <mib_hoimx7d7> amenado: i see jfs_stage1_5  and reiserfs_stage1_5
[07:04] <xnu> ubuntu is slow
[07:04] <bluefoxx> kavik, only if u dont have a decent system
[07:04] <fragged[away]> kavik, as far as seek times, yes, because its searching on CD and its roughly 10mb/s wheras hdd is 60mb/s with ALOT faster seek times
[07:04] <ambar> jc, can you tell me the proxy settings that you are using?
[07:05] <mib_hoimx7d7> kavik how much ram do you have?
[07:05] <bluefoxx> kavik, eg: less than 256/512 mb ram and a old cpu[under 2 ghz]
[07:05] <fragged[away]> xnu, wrong, ubuntu and any other linux distro is slow if your too stupid to configure your system appropriately and correctly
[07:05] <dobblego> you're is the contractive form of you are
[07:05] <g4dist_p4r4hy4ng> rrtew
[07:05] <amenado> mib_hoimx7d7-> how about  e2fs_stage1_5 and stage1 and stage2
[07:05] <kavik> well... (256MB of RAM) i'm trying to install ubuntu on the harddrive but it's going slower than windows vista with 64MB of RAM..
[07:05] <jc> ambar, I'm not using a proxy
[07:05] <xnu> p3 500mhz and 128mb ram
[07:05] <mib_hoimx7d7> try the alt text install cd
[07:05] <fragged[away]> bluefox83, reguardless, my dualcore laptop w/ 1gb of ram is slow under live CD's, I should find the parameter to pass complete system to ram :D
[07:06] <kavik> the mouse will be free, but everything else is frozen.
[07:06] <mib_hoimx7d7> amenado: all those are there
[07:06] <fragged[away]> kavik, try using the alternate boot cd, I used that, but still likes to hang on certain sections which esc fixed
[07:06] <kavik> i can't
[07:06] <jc> ambar, have you tried to restart pidgin?
[07:07] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: were you going to apt-get install pastebinit and paste us some output?
[07:07] <kavik> i ordered both CD's but one when i got it, was already cracked...
[07:07] <mib_hoimx7d7> amenado: i dont think its a problem with grub
[07:07] <amenado> mib_hoimx7d7-> get into grub and point your root to hd0,2   hd0,2 is where your /boot is right? ie hda3?
[07:07] <fragged[away]> kavik, you can download them also
[07:07] <ambar> jc, thanks ! i got connected to MSN !!! :D
[07:07] <bluefoxx> fragged[away], my main: celeron<EMAIL_ADDRESS>oced to 3.75ghz[tested stable] and 1.5 gigs of ram[used to be 256, then 768 now 1.5 gig]
[07:07] <Hemebond> Argh! Zero Punctuation just published his COD4 review and Ubuntu updates have destroyed my Flash.
[07:07] <kavik> but this computer can't burn .iso
[07:07] <Hemebond> Someone will PAY FOR THIS!
[07:07] <FBERN> bluefoxx can i msg u
[07:07] <kavik> hemebond, pay for what
[07:08] <xnu> flash is useless anyway
[07:08] <dobblego> is it possible for a user to be in a group and not be in a group at the same time? http://rafb.net/p/wcYwdo35.html
[07:08] <Hemebond> For breaking me Flash.
[07:08] <ambar> jc, for yahoo also you are using No Proxy ?
[07:08] <fragged[away]> bluefoxx, I was referring to the fact that live cd's are slow reguardless
[07:08] <xnu> and cod sucks
[07:08] <jc> ambar, yes
[07:08] <Hemebond> xnu, yes cod sucks.
[07:08] <Hemebond> I want to watch the review.
[07:08] <mib_hoimx7d7> amenado:  in grub via terminal i can type root (hd0,   then tab and it shows my ext3 linux and #2
[07:08] <bluefoxx> fragged[away], my "new"box consists of parts made from discards from school
[07:08] <kavik> fragged[away] so live CD's are slow nonetheless?
[07:08] <xnu> just ubuntu
[07:09] <xnu> lol
[07:09] <kavik> fragged[away] how should i connect the harddrive to install ubuntu on it? i had it on slave....
[07:09] <fragged[away]> kavik, yes, unless you pass the entire disc to RAM they are relatively slow... like if you leave your system idle, even opening a menu can take 2-3 seconds while CD spins up
[07:09] <bluefoxx> kavik, generaly, depending on your parts, if you have a good cddive, then not so slow, but still slower than a desktop install
[07:09] <mib_hoimx7d7> amenado: the actual partitino is sda3 so that makes sense
[07:09] <amenado> mib_hoimx7d7-> go and do it, assuming your /boot/initrd and /boot/vmlinuz are good ones
[07:10] <kavik> bluefoxx should i connect my harddrive that i wish to install ubuntu onto, in slave mode? or master?
[07:10] <fragged[away]> bluefoxx, ALL CD drives are slow... afaik CDs run at ~9mb/s, hard drives run at ~60+mb/s
[07:10] <ambar> jc, i selected No Proxy for yahoo too, it said it was connecting but suddenly after 1 or 2 seconds the program automatically closed!
[07:10] <mib_hoimx7d7> amenado: so im rebooting
[07:10] <amenado> mib_hoimx7d7-> good luck
[07:10] <bluefoxx> kavik, i dont notice it as much but thats as i ran off a live cd for 4 months while i saved and scrounged for a new hdd after my 5th WD blew out
[07:10] <fragged[away]> kavik, it shouldnt matter so long as it boots from BIOS,
[07:10] <xnu> in slave if its the slave
[07:10] <jc> ambar, what port was yahoo using?
[07:10] <bluefoxx> kavik, try cable select
[07:10] <kavik> bluefoxx what's cable select?
[07:11] <WGGMk> Ok, so I narrowed my problem down to ALSA. OSS seems to work fine, as long as im only using it 1 application of course. But when using ALSA, after 1 thing that requires sound (IE: 1 full song, 1 message on pidgin, 1 error dialog box) it just doesnt work after that. I have also tried opening sound preferences and using the "Test" button, which will work, but after hitting OK on the small dialog box, and trying to Test it again (even the same one) it will NOT wor
[07:11] <xnu> grub will boot from a slave drive
[07:11] <fragged[away]> WGGMk, look at JACK or various other alternatives
[07:11] <amenado> bluefoxx-> my achilles are the ibm deathstarts, i must have six of those busted on me
[07:11] <ambar> jc, Pager Port: 5050 and File Transfer Port: 80
[07:11] <xnu> well grub will boot anything if you know what you are doing
[07:11] <bluefoxx> kavik, the default setting harddrivees come in, usually the best choice if your not that farmilliar with hardwarez[but its what i specialize in]
[07:11] <mib_hoimx7d7> amenado: so it loaded past grub and to the part where its loading hardware
[07:11] <jc> ambar, ok thats the same as mine
[07:12] <mib_hoimx7d7> amenado: and it stopped at Uniform CD-ROM driver revision 3.2
[07:12] <kavik> bluefoxx ok cool.. think you can help me with a quick windows issue?
[07:12] <fragged[away]> bluefoxx, even if you know what your doing, IDE is a prick.... cable select wont work on some older mobos, LBA, master/slave just sucks, blah blah blah
[07:12] <WGGMk> fragged[away]: I would prefer to stick with ALSA, seeming as this was NOT an issue with Feisty
[07:12] <amenado> kavik  haha windows?
[07:12] <bluefoxx> amenado, hehe, i found a seagate 320 meg hdd that still works[not good for much, my broken mp3 player is better than it but...]
[07:12] <fragged[away]> WGGMk, JACK etc use alsa
[07:12] <bluefoxx> fragged[away], yes, ide sucks, sexy FTW
[07:12] <horizxon> how do I find out what version of glibc I have?
[07:12] <ambar> jc, hmmm....whats the Encoding ?
[07:12] <kavik> amenado yeah, my friend prefers windows...
[07:13] <bluefoxx> kavik, try # windows or PM me, i knwo windows but not as well
[07:13] <xnu> windows rules
[07:13] <kavik> bluefoxx ok
[07:13] <mib_hoimx7d7> amenado: any ideas on why the bootup hangs?
[07:13] <jc> ambar: ISO-8859-1
[07:13] <bluefoxx> fragged[away], and by "sexy" i mean skuzzy, scsi, w/e u wanna call it
[07:13] <xnu> everyone knows ubuntu runs under windows
[07:13] <amenado> mib_hoimx7d7-> so its stuck there forever? you may have a bad initrd or kernel
[07:14] <fragged[away]> bluefoxx, I prefer sata, so much more hawtness :D
[07:14] <mib_hoimx7d7> amenado it gets to loading the hard drive then the cr drive then stops
[07:14] <amenado> mib_hoimx7d7-> maybe remove the cdrom? see if it overcomes it
[07:14] <ambar> jc, same here! Yahoo Japan is unchecked, Page server: scs.msg.yahoo.com, Japan Page Server: cs.yahoo.co.jp
[07:15] <bluefoxx> fragged[away], lol, guy sold me a bad sound card that ate my sata somehow...fried my cabel XD, got a free wifi card off of him though, and it works flawlessly in linux =D
[07:15] <mib_hoimx7d7> amenado now it says check root = bootarg cat /proc/cmdline or missing modules. devices cat /proc/modules ls /dev ALERT does not exist dropping to shell
[07:15] <horizxon> sorry i found out, its ls -al /lib/libc*
[07:15] <jc> ambar, yep thats exactly what I've got - and you still can't connect
[07:15] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep root  <----- do the entries just above the /vmlinuz lines say hd(0.2) in that output?
[07:16]  * fragged[away] is *patiently* waiting for a new damn PCI SATA controller from ebay store, damn current file server SATA card doesnt like LBA :(
[07:16] <amenado> mib_hoimx7d7-> thats beyond me now, i believe you have a bad initrd file
[07:16] <jc> ambar, try changing the proxy back to either GNOME or environment
[07:16] <xnu> chinchilla
[07:16] <bluefoxx> a stroke of luck thats lasted the past few weeks, first that then a second comp[laptop] and a third, then free parts from school, now my grandfather and i got a new apartment all lined up =D[the tides have turned, maybe next my dad will start to talk to me and we'll actually get alongXD, not]
[07:17] <xnu> yay
[07:17]  * bluefoxx needs media for 'new' tape backup drive...wonder if any stores still sell it...
[07:17] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep root  <----- do the entries just above the /vmlinuz lines say hd(0.2) in that output?
[07:18] <mib_hoimx7d7> karlNY im not in the live cd rifght now
[07:18] <g-know> i am having error15: cannot find file
[07:18] <BetaTest> I was told that I can install new themes if I go under System>Preferences>Themes, but I don't have a Themes category there
[07:18] <WGGMk> fragged[away]: I fail to see how JACK can be an alternative to ALSA if JACK uses ALSA as their default i/o driver???
[07:18] <g-know> :(
[07:18] <HorizonXP> !ubotu test
[07:18] <ubotu> Failed.
[07:18] <HorizonXP> hahaha
[07:18] <bluefoxx> lol, im running about 7 different programs at the same time and i havent touched the mouse in the past hour
[07:19] <xnu> lol
[07:19] <xnu> themes
[07:19] <xnu> mouse
[07:19] <mib_hoimx7d7> amenado: any i deas on where to go from here?
[07:19] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: ok thanks  - well I googled and a whole bunch of listings say that it might have /dev/had instead of /dev/sda in menu.lst, or that in /etc/fstab it might say /dev/sdb instead of /dev/sda -- stupid stuff like that.
[07:19] <ambar> jc, using GNOME it doesn't connect at all. using No Proxy/Environmental i've tried connecting  in Invisible mode, and it says "connecting" but within 2 seconds or so the program is automatically getting closed!
[07:20] <xnu> lol
[07:20] <amenado> mib_hoimx7d7-> re-install
[07:20] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: http://help.lockergnome.com/linux/Installing-Debian-Dell-2950-ftopict284011.html
[07:20] <xnu> proxy smoxy
[07:20] <jc> ambar, I'm out of ideas hopefully some with a better idea can chime in
[07:21] <pocketdrummer> Is there a way to force my mouse's sample rate to use 500?
[07:21] <ambar> jc, thanks a lot, at least the msn is getting connected now! :)
[07:21] <bluefoxx> is there any reason logitech-applet doesnt work?
[07:22] <BetaTest> I was told that I can install new themes if I go under System>Preferences>Themes, but I don't have a Themes category there. Any suggestions as to what I should do because clicking and dragging into the Appearances window doesn't cut it
[07:22] <xnu> lol
[07:22] <xnu> install
[07:23] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: I think it's a botched character error in your grub stuff somewhere.
[07:23] <BetaTest> What do you propose I install?
[07:23] <xnu> apperance maybe to get themes?
[07:23] <xnu> i don't use gnome
[07:23] <mib_hoimx7d7> karlNY i dont think it has to do with grub
[07:23] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: I've fixed that error before, but without having your output, seeing it all  visually, it's hard to really help
[07:23] <ere4si> BetaTest, if you look in the control panel for the main menu you should be able to add Themes to your menu
[07:24] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: what you do to the partition table, if backed up is always reversible...
[07:24] <ere4si> BetaTest, control center I meant :)
[07:24] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: you didn't say you deleted data, earlier - so what else did you do besides delete a partion?
[07:24] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: it was working fine before, then you changed one partition in gparted... then it broke?
[07:25] <BetaTest> So ere4si, what would I be looking for? o.O
[07:25] <mib_hoimx7d7> karlNY just deleted a partition and then extended the ubuntu partition to cover it
[07:25] <xnu> lol
[07:25] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: that should be reversible if you did not write any data in addition to that
[07:26] <Creationist> Okay, I have flashplugin-nonfree installed, but every Flash-based website still says I need Flash 8 or higher.. what gives?
[07:26] <xnu> lol
[07:26] <xnu> flash
[07:26] <astro76> !lol
[07:26] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[07:26] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: you'd need to first restore the partition table to what it was prior to extending it, ideally....
[07:26] <ere4si> BetaTest, an entry in the control center for "main menu" which will give you options to show on the menu different progs - if you go to prefs the entry for themes should be greyed out - click it to enable it
[07:26] <xnu> omg
[07:26] <Hemebond> omg
[07:27] <Hemebond> wtfhax
[07:27] <xnu> thanks ubotu bot master thing
[07:27] <Hemebond> IRC gave birth to those acronyms.
[07:27] <xnu> its still im
[07:27] <mib_hoimx7d7> karlNY i guess i could but would that fix anything?
[07:27] <xnu> wtf?
[07:27] <astro76> !wtf
[07:27] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:27] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: but if you extended ubutnu over a partition you don't care for, you should be able to just do what you did, reinstall grub, make sure it's pointing to the correct partition and once all is lined up in menu.lst and /etc/fstab, you should be fine
[07:27] <AlexRox> !omg
[07:27] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[07:27] <xnu> see what freedom gives you
[07:27] <Hemebond> What The Fridge
[07:27] <xnu> rules and guidelines
[07:27] <astro76> !coc
[07:27] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[07:28] <AlexRox> !ping
[07:28] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[07:28] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: it could fix everything, actually... depends what you're more  comfy with.
[07:28] <xnu> ubotu is a fascist bot
[07:28] <singlesun> now that ping is a nice one
[07:28] <AlexRox> ha
[07:28] <AlexRox> !ha
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ha - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <astro76> !botabuse | AlexRox
[07:28] <ubotu> AlexRox: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[07:28] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: some google results suggested changing the UUID=asdjjakjdkjad  to root=/dev/sda3
[07:28] <AlexRox> ok...I got the point.
[07:29] <astro76> ;)
[07:29]  * Creationist is a wing-a-ling dragon... how about you? ;)
[07:29] <xnu> !take it easy bot
[07:29] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: (in /etc/fstab and in the grub boot menu, if applicable)
[07:29] <mib_hoimx7d7> karlNY i did it in grub already but ill try fstab
[07:30] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: well good luck man - that partition recovery stuff should be well documented, even your vfs kernel panic is well documented - just a pain in the neck to filter out all the useless forum posts to something that matches your case exactly.
[07:30] <AlexRox> I stopped using Ubuntu since the last time I did, the kernel crashed like a tonne of bricks
[07:31] <ere4si> BetaTest, do you have an entry for the control center in your menu?
[07:31] <xnu> ubuntu is vapor ware
[07:32] <singlesun> vapor ware?
[07:32] <xnu> here today gone tomorrow
[07:32] <astro76> that's not what vaporware means
[07:32] <singlesun> so then what remains?
[07:32] <mib_hoimx7d7> karlNY thats been the problem so far
[07:32] <Sevensins> good morning from gmoney
[07:32] <xnu> lol
[07:33] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: grin
[07:33] <badkitty> xnu: nah i dont think so
[07:33] <Sevensins> anyone here to help me with alsa problems?
[07:33] <xnu> badkitty
[07:33] <singlesun> xnu, what remains then? personally ive had a much better experience with ubuntu than some other linux distros ;)
[07:33] <^Santri_Cowo^_> fadan
[07:33] <xnu> true
[07:34] <xnu> can't complain about that
[07:34] <singlesun> ;) and there is alot of nice ppl that back it up too... just look at the channel listing
[07:34] <xopher> Hi, is it possible to overclock your cpu when using frequency scaling?
[07:34] <xopher> Im on a amd64 venice, with cool'n'quiet enabled, oc'd to 2.64ghz in bios, but 'performance' shows a 2.4ghz maximum
[07:34] <xnu> there release cycle is screwed
[07:34] <AlexRox> xopher, the info given by linux will always show the stock core speed
[07:35] <xnu> they're
[07:35] <astro76> their
[07:35] <xnu> grammar
[07:35] <astro76> :p
[07:35] <singlesun> lol
[07:35] <xnu> lol
[07:35] <astro76> !ot
[07:35] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:35] <AlexRox> I've tried OC'ing, I never get the OC readidng
[07:35] <singlesun> oops... i did the lol...
[07:35] <xopher> AlexRox, does this mean it's actually still overclocked when at 100%?
[07:35] <mib_hoimx7d7> karNY fstab doesnt say anything about my ubuntu partition
[07:35] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: which is your winbows partition again?
[07:35] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: sda1?
[07:35] <mib_hoimx7d7> karlNY its sda2
[07:35] <xnu> didn't yo momma teach you about oc'ing
[07:35] <AlexRox> xopher, it probably is overclocked, but most of the time, Linux fails to show the OC'd core speed.
[07:35] <xopher> AlexRox, is there a way to read the FSB in linux?
[07:36] <AlexRox> Not to my knowledge.
[07:36] <Sevensins> my alsamixer doesnt save settings. my soundcard is an emu 0404 where you can adjust the samplerate but the alsamixer and the gnome-mixer dont save what i adjust there each time i reboot the system from a cold state it has lost all settings. where can that reason from?
[07:36] <AlexRox> There have been some CPUID clones, but none successful enough to reach RC
[07:36] <xopher> AlexRox, right, well when I didn't have cool'n'quiet enabled, freq scaling didn't work, but the cpufreq showed up correctly
[07:36] <xopher> ok
[07:36] <Sevensins> i found out that logginng out and in to gnome doesnt make me loose the settings its just once i shut down and boot up againn
[07:37] <xnu> google alsamixer?
[07:37] <AlexRox> Wouldn't know, My experience varys between IBM PPC and Intel cores.
[07:37] <xnu> lol
[07:37] <pocketdrummer> hello everyone
[07:37] <xnu> archlinux wiki
[07:37] <xopher> ok, well thanks a lot
[07:37] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: does dmesg | frep sda    on live-cd  show your sda partitions?
[07:37] <Sevensins> i checked that i have the proper rights for the dev files
[07:37] <pocketdrummer> Is there a way to change your keyboard layout? I have two versions added (qwerty and dvorak), but I'm not sure how I can switch between the two. Any suggestions?
[07:38] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: s/frep/grep/
[07:38] <AlexRox> use sax2
[07:38] <xopher> Ill just hold on to the illusion that my cpu is faster than it wants to tell me .. ;)
[07:38] <Sevensins> therefore i had to add a group audio and i added myself plus root to this group
[07:38] <xnu> just get a blank keyboard and set your own key map
[07:38] <Sevensins> but still no effect
[07:38] <AlexRox> pocketdrummer, SAX2
[07:39] <sky_> So guys, is anyone else getting segfaults on npviewer.bin?
[07:39] <kaushal> hi
[07:39] <mib_hoimx7d7> karlNY says EXT2 FS on sda3, interal journaled
[07:39] <Sevensins> xnu googling st is contraproductive since you can imaagine i already did so
[07:39] <xnu> wtf is npviewer.bin
[07:39] <kaushal> is LPI 199 a objective type exam
[07:39] <sky_> xnu: flashy goodness
[07:39] <xnu> o
[07:39] <Hemebond> xnu: plugin wrapper
[07:39] <kaushal> I mean Ubuntu Certified Professional
[07:39] <xnu> whats flash
[07:39] <krys2008> hey can any one help me with installing Panda Desktop Secure For Linux?
[07:40] <xnu> thats gnu right
[07:40] <xnu> gnu flash
[07:40] <xnu> o
[07:40] <xnu> adobe
[07:40] <AlexRox> If its Linux, doesn't it HAVE to be GNU?
[07:40] <Hemebond> xnu: your shoe-lases are undone.
[07:40] <xnu> sorry my bad
[07:40] <pocketdrummer> Weird, xIRC crashed. Anyway, I'm not sure if anyone responded... Is there a way to change your keyboard layout from qwerty to dvorak and back whenever I feel the need?
[07:40] <xnu> i don't have shoes
[07:40] <Hemebond> AlexRox: No.
[07:40] <AlexRox> No?
[07:41] <xnu> i'm in the african jungle in my tree hut typing on my xio
[07:41] <Hemebond> AlexRox: Linux is the kernel. GNU/Linux is an operating system.
[07:41] <AlexRox> pm for explanation ?
[07:41] <Dezine> Hi, I installed Ubuntu from Kubuntu and then removed Kubuntu, now I can only login by typing startx. Any idea how to fix this?
[07:41] <xopher> AlexRox, dmidecode | grep External Clock
[07:41] <xnu> install gdm
[07:41] <xopher> and it seems it really is at 220 Mhz, instead of stock 200
[07:41] <xnu> or qingy
[07:41] <xnu>  if your getty
[07:41] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: have you recently upgraded releases or kernels?
[07:41] <blayde> pocketdrummer, if you put the keyboard applet in the panel and mess w/ keyboard preferences you can do it - i have
[07:42] <mib_hoimx7d7> karlNY yes
[07:42] <AlexRox> xopher, and that is?
[07:42] <xopher> That's the Front Side Bus, AFAIK
[07:42] <blayde> pocketdrummer, thing is i need to put the letters on the keys so i can actually start learning dvorak
[07:42] <AlexRox> thats impossible.
[07:42] <xnu> 500mhz here
[07:42] <AlexRox> My FSB is 533...not 133...
[07:42] <xnu> blazin fast
[07:42] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: ok - what was the upgrade to/from? feisty--gutsy, or kernel, etc? details?
[07:42] <AlexRox> Alex-N1:/home/Alex # dmidecode | grep External
[07:42] <AlexRox>         External Clock: 133 MHz
[07:42] <Dezine> Anybody know of a site that lists all the default software install on Ubuntu? I did it via  ubuntu-desktop and some things seem to be missing
[07:43] <xnu> 640 k
[07:43] <xopher> AlexRox, hmm, well eh... ツ
[07:43] <pocketdrummer> Ugh, xIRC crashed again. Who was I talking to?
[07:43] <xnu> rockin twm in 8bit
[07:43] <AlexRox> Im running a dell inspiron 6400 with a T2450
[07:43] <blayde> pocketdrummer, i was saying some stuff - did you get it?
[07:43] <xnu> with my 512 floppy
[07:44] <mib_hoimx7d7> karlNY upgraded fro 2.6.20-15 to -16 im still fiesty
[07:44] <xnu> does anyones ubuntu install actually work
[07:44] <AlexRox> eh, why wouldn't it?
[07:45] <xnu> cause everyone has problems
[07:45] <pocketdrummer> yeah, I got it. Thanks man
[07:45] <AlexRox> In what areas?
[07:45] <xnu> donno
[07:45] <xnu> i never have problems
[07:45] <AlexRox> I say SuSE for all Linux Newbies.
[07:45] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: I found two posts saying that it helped to dpkg-reconfigure..... a)    http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27709.html
[07:45] <xnu> no ubuntu for all newbies
[07:45] <DJAdmiral> I say Ubuntu for all linux noobs.
[07:45] <DJAdmiral> The support is amazing.
[07:46] <AlexRox> I learnt Linux Through SuSE.
[07:46] <DJAdmiral> Not to mention the ease of use.
[07:46] <xnu> unubtu
[07:46] <AlexRox> k
[07:46] <badkitty> I dont have problems
[07:46] <AlexRox> Everyone has their own opinions
[07:46] <xnu> good
[07:46] <DJAdmiral> Alex, how many years have you been with Ubuntu?
[07:46] <AlexRox> 3
[07:46] <xnu> true
[07:46] <DJAdmiral> I mean, Linux
[07:46] <AlexRox> and I've given up this year.
[07:46] <xnu> lol
[07:46] <AlexRox> with Linux itself?
[07:46] <DJAdmiral> Why so
[07:46] <DJAdmiral> ?*
[07:46] <xnu> gnu
[07:46] <AlexRox> 8 years
[07:46] <DJAdmiral> Aye.
[07:46] <mib_hoimx7d7> karlNY i dont have access to internet on the computer will it still work?
[07:46] <DJAdmiral> Cool.
[07:46] <xnu> day one
[07:46] <AlexRox> Im 16 today.
[07:46] <xnu> wow
[07:47] <AlexRox> and still using
[07:47] <DJAdmiral> Awesome.
[07:47] <stf_> Hey all. Got a problem with Gutsy's usplash. The monitor natively uses 1280x768 (or 1365x768, not sure). I can't find a vga=*** code for that (except someone mentioned vga=797 which doesn't work). The closest I get is 1280x1024 (vga=795) but then the splash is distorted (shifted to downwards and to the right, and squashed vertically). I could use any pointers on that :)
[07:47] <DJAdmiral> Suse since 8?
[07:47] <Hemebond> Fixed my Flash. Solution is in the forums.
[07:47] <xnu> thats good for you
[07:47] <DJAdmiral> Wish I was that lucky.
[07:47] <AlexRox> SuSE since 7
[07:47] <AlexRox> Yeah...well I've found one cool thing out...
[07:47] <xnu> i use linux all day at work in a fortune 500 company
[07:47] <AlexRox> when ever I have a problem in Windows...it keeps fucking me over.
[07:47] <xnu> windows rules
[07:47] <AlexRox> but in Linux...I think of a solution in less time than it takes me to think of the problem!
[07:47] <DJAdmiral> ubotu: language > AlexRox
[07:47] <badkitty> Both OS's have their benefits
[07:48] <xnu> there is no contest
[07:48] <AlexRox> Eh, sorry.
[07:48] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: yeah It basically talks about tons of stuff, but the guy got dpkg-reconfigure  [new.kernel.installed.xxxxx] to work
[07:48] <hitguy> yes .you are right
[07:48] <AlexRox> Theres no contest
[07:48] <DJAdmiral> Anyway
[07:48] <AlexRox> but in terms of being able to move in a world without walls...
[07:48] <AlexRox> who wins?
[07:48] <mib_hoimx7d7> karlNY ok im trying it
[07:48] <xnu> nobody
[07:48] <AlexRox> Linux.
[07:48] <musikgoat> !ot
[07:48] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:48] <AlexRox> Open-Source.
[07:49] <xnu> thats right
[07:49] <DJAdmiral> I've been with Linux for about 3 years now, first used Fedora/Red Hat for a while, then moved on and actually learned Linux with Ubuntu since 5.04
[07:49] <krys2008> any one know how to install Panda DesktopSecure For Linux ubuntu 7.10?
[07:49] <DJAdmiral> And I managed to make my own distro from scratch last year :)
[07:49] <xnu> good for you
[07:49] <AlexRox> Wow...congrats.
[07:49] <AlexRox> Im learning python soon
[07:49] <badkitty> For a basic computer user windows is by far better, but for anyone who wants to go beyond surfing myspace making pretty word documents.. linux is the way to go
[07:49] <DJAdmiral> and I'm 18 now.
[07:50] <AlexRox> niice.
[07:50] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: also - the guy in that post had added a repository before installing the kernel... he ended up having to make all the repositories match the same release/level that he wanted to stick with, obviously, he had to satisfy dependencies
[07:50] <xnu> all this windows bashing
[07:50] <AlexRox> Ha its not windows bashing...
[07:50] <xnu> lol
[07:50] <astro76> !ot | AlexRox xnu DJAdmiral
[07:50] <ubotu> AlexRox xnu DJAdmiral: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:50] <DJAdmiral> Alex, let's go to the offtopic channel?
[07:50] <xnu> win95 rulez
[07:50] <AlexRox> Ok ok...
[07:50] <badkitty> xnu: I dualboot winxp and linux .. Im not bashing it, it is very simple to use and powerful
[07:50] <DJAdmiral> Sorry guys :P
[07:50] <AlexRox> Lets talk more in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:50] <mib_hoimx7d7> kalrNY well it said it generated a new initrd img so im gunna reboot
[07:51] <xnu> its ok badkitty
[07:51] <xnu> i don't use windows
[07:51] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: sweet, gluck
[07:51] <xnu> my son does
[07:51] <xnu> he's 5
[07:51] <badkitty> xnu: I boot to linux 97% of the time though
[07:51] <xnu> it plays his games
[07:52] <xnu> though he does like supertux
[07:52] <badkitty> haha
[07:52] <singlesun> !supertux
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about supertux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <singlesun> haha
[07:52] <xnu> lol
[07:52] <NilsE> Why is that IRSeekBot in every channel all of a sudden? And everyone accepts this privacy violation? Are you getting paid to let it be here and gather information or something?
[07:52] <xnu> skynet
[07:52] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: here's another post (sorry I know you can't access the net from the failed PC) but it has step by step kernel/initrd change instructions -- mentioned same VFS kernel panic error as you did -- http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27709.html
[07:52] <mib_hoimx7d7> karlNY looks like its hanging at the same spot
[07:52] <singlesun> NilsE, good question ;)
[07:53] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: dang, sorry to hear that.
[07:53] <crdlb> NilsE: the ubuntu channels have always been publically logged
[07:53] <NilsE> Soon Googlebot will join too...
[07:53] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: did you change your /etc/apt/sources.list prior to installing the newer lernel?
[07:53] <NilsE> I don't want some asshole profiting from my embarrasing IRC quotes...
[07:53] <singlesun> LOL
[07:54] <astro76> !language | NilsE
[07:54] <ubotu> NilsE: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:54] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: *kernel
[07:54] <astro76> NilsE: then don't speak in a public channel
[07:54] <mib_hoimx7d7> karlNY no
[07:54] <xnu> tin foil works
[07:54] <hantu> not sure if this is the right place to ask, does kde-core and kdm gives you a working kde environment?
[07:54] <astro76> hantu: best bet is kubuntu-desktop
[07:54] <NilsE> 1140 users?!
[07:54] <NilsE> This must be the biggest IRC channel ever...
[07:54] <Webu> hantu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE?highlight=%28kde%29 :)
[07:55] <xnu> yes
[07:55] <xnu> you are correct sir
[07:55] <FBERN> anyone here use nvidia proprietary driver and get BLACK SCREEN?
[07:55] <xnu> nope
[07:55] <ethan_> hi room
[07:55] <hantu> astro76: kubuntu-desktop gives me a lot of applications i don't want
[07:55] <stf_> FBERN: what wm?
[07:55] <xnu> then remove them
[07:55] <hantu> i just want a working desktop, without those applications
[07:55] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: can you apt-get install initrd-tools, then apt-get install the former kernel -- and apt-get remove the newer kernel -- revert?
[07:55] <xnu> use openbox
[07:55] <xnu> pekwm
[07:56] <mib_hoimx7d7> karlNY nope caus i cant get on the internet :(
[07:56] <astro76> hantu: well you could remove the meta-package and remove what you don't want, or, look at the dependency list as a reference
[07:56] <crdlb> hantu: see Webu's link
[07:56] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: sorry man but without seeing it all I'm shooting in the dark now.
[07:56] <icedtea> where can I get a ubuntu package without using apt-get? I need to download vim on a machine with no internet connection but through a flash drive
[07:56] <stf_> Hey all. Got a problem with Gutsy's usplash. The monitor natively uses 1280x768 (or 1365x768, not sure). I can't find a vga=*** code for that (except someone mentioned vga=797 which doesn't work). The closest I get is 1280x1024 (vga=795) but then the splash is distorted (shifted to downwards and to the right, and squashed vertically). I could use any pointers on that :)
[07:56] <mkquist> last night i d/l the 'update' of the Flash, now flash won't play?  Is there a prob w/the new one? cause mine was working
[07:56] <stf_> Also, is /etc/usplash.conf ever read by usplash?
[07:56] <astro76> icedtea: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:57] <karlNY> mib_hoimx7d7: good luck
[07:57] <hantu> x-window-system-core kde-core and kdm will do, thanks.
[07:57] <cMad> I heard folks complaining about the flash update last night - that it broke flash completely - anyone know if it's ok? I haven't updated yet
[07:57] <icedtea> astro76: thanks man
[07:57] <xnu> i don't use flash
[07:57] <xnu> is it broke?
[07:57] <cMad> xnu: I don't like to :)
[07:58] <stf_> cMad: someone complained about that just before you joined
[07:58] <hantu> umm.. konqueror etc comes with kdebase which is in kde-core ;\
[07:58] <cMad> stf_: cheers, I'll hold off for now then
[07:59] <mib_hoimx7d7> karlNY yeah i know
[07:59] <mib_hoimx7d7> KarlNY im going to try and make the partition table the same
[07:59] <astro76> hantu: I believe konqueror is responsible for the desktop in kde... you should ask in #kubuntu
[07:59] <Aloha> what is better, evolution or thunderbird?
[07:59] <singlesun> any idiots guide to connecting to a wpa secured access point?
[07:59] <astro76> hantu: or #kde
[07:59] <mkquist> cMad: its broke
[07:59] <xnu> neither
[08:00] <astro76> !best | Aloha
[08:00] <ubotu> Aloha: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[08:00] <mkquist> !flash
[08:00] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:00] <xnu> which is best ubotu or ubotu
[08:00] <WGGMk> What would cause my wireless card to NOT be recognized by Ubuntu anymore? Was working in 7.04 & 7.10 (via RDM in 7.10, but now does not show in RDM)
[08:01] <xnu> hmm
[08:01] <singlesun> any guide for connecting to wpa secured access points?
[08:01] <astro76> !wifi | singlesun
[08:01] <ubotu> singlesun: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:01] <AlexRox> singlesun, aircrack-ng
[08:01] <cMad> mkquist: thanks, that article appears to suggest using the proposed repo, bit concerned about that breaking other bits though, what do you think?
[08:01] <astro76> cMad: enable the repo, install flash, then disable the repo
[08:02] <singlesun> AlexRox, i have some issues with air and my card.... when i was using bt2... hence the reason im trying with ubuntu ;)
[08:02] <xnu> exctly why ubuntu needs a rolling release with stable an unstable branches
[08:02] <AlexRox> heh cool
[08:02] <astro76> xnu: that's debian
[08:02] <cMad> alright, thanks astro76 / everyone
[08:02] <xnu> exactly
[08:02] <astro76> exactly, so what's your point? :p
[08:03] <xnu> so you get everything set up and then the next version comes out and breaks what worked before?
[08:03] <astro76> pick the one you prefer, half the reason for ubuntu was a regular fixed release
[08:03] <astro76> xnu: generally the update works fine, here you see only those with problems
[08:04] <xnu> ok
[08:04] <xnu> i'm glad i never have problems
[08:05] <astro76> and of course the problems are usually related to proprietrary wireless drivers or proprietary 3d drivers which the community can't do much about
[08:05] <xnu> ok
[08:05] <xnu> i see the point
[08:06] <xnu> so is it an upgrade or a new release
[08:07] <astro76> xnu: you can upgrade from release to release
[08:07] <xnu> like arch or debian
[08:07] <astro76> or you can upgrade from LTS release to LTS release which will be about 3 years apart assuming 8.04 is LTS
[08:07] <astro76> it's mostly debian
[08:07] <xnu> ok
[08:08] <astro76> many packages are unmodified
[08:08] <xnu> so whats modified
[08:08] <astro76> too much to list here and ot
[08:09] <sananebe> may anybody help me about my HD Audio??? i habe no sound and no kn0owledge about linux :(
[08:09] <FC|Kasei> hi, i'd like to install ubuntu 7.10 on an athlon 900MHz 512MB ram pc. live-cd starts regular, when i choose start and install ubuntu, the loadingscreen appears, after 5-10 sec. a black screen apears and nothing happens. is that pc to old ?
[08:09] <xnu> google
[08:09] <xnu> just wait
[08:09] <sky_> can anyone tell me how to fix this segfault problem with flash ?
[08:10] <FC|Kasei> i waited 30 min
[08:10] <astro76> FC|Kasei: no, but you might try the alternate install cd
[08:10] <Invert314> how do I get xterm to print my CPU specifications?
[08:10] <xnu> get the flash plugin from adobe and put it in .mozilla/plugins
[08:10] <xnu> i donno
[08:10] <stf_> Hey, is there a vga=*** kernel option corresponding to 1366x768?
[08:10] <astro76> Invert314: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:10] <xnu> there are vga table on the internet
[08:10] <Invert314> ty astro76
[08:11] <sananebe> hey stf_ try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:11] <prakriti> I can't seem to boot my 7.10 cd
[08:11] <sananebe> with super user
[08:11] <prakriti> it keeps dropping me to busybox
[08:11] <xnu> its ok
[08:11] <stf_> xnu: yep, but it only has the 4 common resolutions: 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768 and 1280x1024.
[08:11] <xnu> busybox is good
[08:11] <prakriti> the same disk works on my girls box
[08:11] <DJAdmiral> Alright, as much as I hate saying this
[08:11] <xnu> oh
[08:11] <DJAdmiral> I need to make a partition for windoze
[08:11] <prakriti> I'm sure its a sata iisue
[08:11] <stf_> sananebe: I'm setting up a bootsplash, so X is irrelevant here
[08:11] <prakriti> issue
[08:11] <xnu> awesome
[08:11] <DJAdmiral> *flinches severely*
[08:11] <xnu> welcome back dj
[08:12] <xnu> lol
[08:12] <DJAdmiral> I need to dual-boot temporarily, and right now I have two partitions on my disk, one ext3 for ubuntu, and one swap
[08:12] <xnu> xp rulez
[08:12] <pigor> hello. is there a good documentation how to patch a package xy?
[08:12] <stf_> pigor: what?
[08:12] <pigor> "apt-get source ..." and then ?
[08:13] <xnu> so resize the ext3, create a new ntfs in its place and install windows
[08:13] <DJAdmiral> brb.
[08:13] <stf_> pigor: `apt-get source somepackage` gets you the source for somepackage
[08:13] <xnu> then reinstall grub
[08:13] <xnu> apt-get windows
[08:13] <badkitty> LOL
[08:13] <pigor> I want to modify the source and build a new package or just a patch file or
[08:13] <Webu> :D
[08:13] <FC|Kasei> why should the alternate cd work, but the live cd not? is there an option to see the loading sequence and not the loading screen?
[08:13] <badkitty> DJAdmiral: Why not virtualbox?
[08:14] <xnu> lol
[08:14] <xnu> hmm
[08:14] <sananebe> does anybody know anything how to get the latest ALSA in development stage? (not by using synaptics, i need the daily snapshots)
[08:14] <stf_> FC|Kasei: try pressing Escape while booting
[08:14] <FC|Kasei> i did^^
[08:14] <TaintedTux> I cant get MPD to read the music I copied from my ext.HD to my music directory, and none of my music at all shows up in Sonata...any ideas?
[08:14] <xnu> i d/l windows server 2008 just for laughs
[08:14] <FC|Kasei> maybe i was to slow, because the blackscreen appears
[08:15] <pigor> in the case that i discover a bad thing in a package ... how can i modify the source and send my modifications to the communitya?
[08:15] <astro76> !wiki | pigor
[08:15] <ubotu> pigor: http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[08:15] <xnu> FC maybe try the safe graphics mode on the live cd
[08:16] <FC|Kasei> ok will do
[08:16] <pigor> ubotu: thanks, i will try out ...
[08:16] <xnu> !wiki | astro76
[08:16] <ubotu> astro76: http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[08:16] <sananebe> does anybody know anything how to get the latest ALSA in development stage? (not by using synaptics, i need the daily snapshots)
[08:16] <astro76> xnu: please don't
[08:16] <AlexRox> google alsa
[08:16] <xnu> !wiki | ubotu
[08:16] <ubotu> ubotu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[08:16] <abhi_> anyone know how i can get the db_stat utility on gutsy?
[08:16] <astro76> !botabuse | xnu
[08:16] <ubotu> xnu: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[08:16] <abhi_> !db_stat
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about db_stat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <xnu> lol
[08:17] <xnu> you have to be kidding
[08:18] <Invert314> I think my CPU supports SVM, it's just that either: (a) I haven't enabled SVM in my BIOS or (b) I haven't compiled a kernel which includes support for SVM or (c) maybe I need to do both. My questions, therefore, are: (1) what should I look for and where in my BIOS to enable SVM, and (2) where in the kernel do I enable SVM?
[08:18] <xnu> yikes
[08:18] <xnu> east coast rules
[08:19] <astro76> !ot | xnu
[08:19] <ubotu> xnu: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:19] <xnu> man you guys are hard
[08:19] <astro76> xnu: this channel is Ubuntu support only
[08:20] <abhi_> can anyone tell me why db_stat isn't there on ubuntu and how can i get it?
[08:20] <xnu> east coast ubuntu club duh
[08:20] <AlexRox> don't they use ubuntu on the east coast?
[08:20] <sky_> SVM?
[08:20] <xnu> show your colors
[08:20] <xnu> no
[08:20] <xnu> they all you unixware
[08:21] <xnu> i can haz ubotu
[08:21] <astro76> !ops | xnu
[08:21] <ubotu> xnu: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[08:21] <elkbuntu> xnu, are you going to start behaving, or do i need to kick you?
[08:21] <Invert314> hi sky_
[08:21] <xnu> 911 i'm gettin kicked i can feel it
[08:21] <xnu> bye elky
[08:22] <Duskin> hello
[08:22] <Invert314> sky_, i'm trying to get kvm working
[08:22] <Invert314> more information here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=536691
[08:22] <Decco> anyone care to help me a little with ati x1600 drivers.. trying to play wow in ubuntu 7.10
[08:22] <jay-oh-en> !desktop effects
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desktop effects - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <jay-oh-en> !effects
[08:23] <ubotu> Desktop Effects are supported on graphics cards that use the default Intel and ATI drivers and the restricted !NVIDIA drivers, except for the following, which are blacklisted due to stability/compatibility issues: Intel 965, ATI Rs480 and Rv350, ATI Mobility x300, x600 and x700 - Join #compiz-fusion for anything not officially supported by Ubuntu
[08:23] <johansja> what is it so good about ubuntu over pclinuxos?
[08:23] <johansja> anyone converted from pclos?
[08:23] <jay-oh-en> yeah
[08:23] <jay-oh-en> but i never used pclinuxos alot
[08:23] <jay-oh-en> like i do ubuntu
[08:24] <johansja> jay-oh-en: why?
[08:24] <jay-oh-en> !ati
[08:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:24] <dbgi> whats pclos?
[08:24] <johansja> dbgi: pclinuxos
[08:24] <lazy247x> need help with GFXboot
[08:25] <lazy247x> GFXboot failure to read splash image??
[08:25] <johansja> what is ubuntu's strength?
[08:25] <dbgi> johansja, oh ok thanks :)
[08:26] <Decco> jay-oh-en: it's installed, but not in use.. it says.. used the driver from ati.com
[08:27] <jay-oh-en> Decco, im trying to get desktop effects working
[08:27] <gebura> hi
[08:27] <Decco> oh.. nevermind me then :_D
[08:28] <Duskin> wow theres alot of people in here
[08:28] <Duskin> anyone know if world of warcraft works on ubuntu?
[08:28] <Duskin> using WINE preferebly
[08:29] <Decco> it works yeah.
[08:29] <Duskin> cool
[08:29] <Decco> i also try to make it work..
[08:30] <Duskin> does it run slower on linux?
[08:30] <miss_sunshine> sure
[08:31] <Duskin> sure?
[08:32] <sinthetek> i recently saw an article about gaming in linux/wine being better than with vista
[08:32] <Duskin> orly
[08:32] <Slart> sinthetek: don't believe everything you read.. not saying it's wrong though =)
[08:33] <sinthetek> http://wastingtimewithmikeandari.wordpress.com/2008/01/31/linux-has-better-windows-compatibility-than-vista/
[08:33] <iiPing> pipz... question where can i find the application developer channel
[08:33] <Slart> sinthetek: but if I had to chose gaming on ubuntu or gaming on vista.. I'd chose vista
[08:33] <sinthetek> Slart: you would probably know better than me, i don't game...
[08:33] <Slart> sinthetek: the guy that chose 5 games? way to be thorough =)
[08:33] <Duskin> i just want to be able to play WoW is all
[08:34] <Duskin> and hopefully as fast if not faster then on my vista
[08:34] <Duskin> cuz i get low fps as it is
[08:34] <sinthetek> Slart: but i've heard similar experience even in comparison with xp over the years (on specific hardware/game combos anyway) and considering vista's resource usage it wouldn't surprise me at all
[08:34] <sinthetek> heard of similar experiences*
[08:34] <Slart> I think wow is pretty well supported... there is a lot of people out there that want it to work
[08:34] <iiPing> etqw is running great on the platform
[08:35] <Slart> sinthetek: gaming on linux vs gaming on xp.. there I can tell you.. xp wins.. hands down, blindfolder.. it still wins
[08:35] <Duskin> ok well i guess the only thing i can do is try it out
[08:35] <zh> Does ubuntu have good firewall
[08:35] <Slart> sinthetek: wine runs few games good.. some games run with bad performance.. and many games don't run at all
[08:35] <Slart> zh: yes
[08:36] <jay-oh-en> !compiz
[08:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[08:37] <zh> what
[08:37] <iDivine_> Hello.
[08:37] <blackjohn> καλημέρα
[08:37] <iDivine_> I was wondering, Why I can't view certain embedded .wmv videos?
[08:37] <Slart> gr | blackjohn
[08:37] <Slart> !gr | blackjohn
[08:37] <ubotu> blackjohn: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[08:38] <sinthetek> Slart: overall i don't doubt your right, but i'm sure there are/were some exceptions to the rule with xp and i would be surprised if there weren't even more in regards to vista
[08:38] <Slart> iDivine_: what player do you use?
[08:38] <iDivine_> G something..
[08:38] <iDivine_> G something..
[08:39] <blackjohn> kalimera se oloys sas
[08:39] <Slart> sinthetek: yes.. there are always exceptions... vista breaks some older games.. drivers need some work etc
[08:39] <iDivine_> I was wondering, Why I can't view certain embedded .wmv videos?
[08:39] <Slart> iDivine_: gxine?
[08:39] <sinthetek> and the whole..."needing 4x more resources" thing...
[08:39] <iDivine_> Umm, I think so...
[08:40] <Slart> iDivine_: try opening those same wmv's with VLC.. see if it works there
[08:40] <taz> hi guy
[08:40] <taz> how i can get wobbly or cube ??
[08:40] <iDivine_> I actually use..
[08:40] <iDivine_> totem-plugin-viewer 2.20.0
[08:40] <Slart> taz: ask in #compiz-fusion
[08:40] <taz> any one can help me please
[08:40] <iDivine_> I actually use..
[08:41] <iDivine_> totem-plugin-viewer 2.20.0
[08:41] <taz> ok thanks i try
[08:41] <Slart> iDivine_: ah.. embedded movies in webpages?
[08:41] <iDivine_> Yup.
[08:41] <Duskin> does ubuntu support multiple videocards/monitors?
[08:41] <iDivine_> ;P
[08:41] <sinthetek> my first/only experience with vista, i was helping a friend pick out a new system... he had a particular store in mind and the best hardware we saw was amd x2 5200 systems (though they had vista pre-installed)
[08:41] <Slart> iDivine_: well.. those don't work reliably for me either.. don't know why
[08:41] <sinthetek> we went through 2 of the same model before we went with a core-duo model with half resources because the better hardware wouldn't stay booted
[08:42] <iDivine_> Is that a thing that only Ubuntu?
[08:42] <haim> hi anybody else experienced segfault when running 'depmod -a' (for the new kernel upgrade)?
[08:42] <iDivine_> does...
[08:42] <Slart> Duskin: dual monitors work but you'll have to do some work to get there.. dual video-cards.. I have no idea
[08:42] <iDivine_> Is that a thing that only Ubuntu does?..
[08:43] <Slart> sinthetek: it's sad really... we wouldn't accept that in a car.. but with computers we do
[08:43] <Duskin> well i have dual video cards right now (not SLI or crossfire) with one monitor each, would that work?
[08:43] <Slart> iDivine_: don't know.. it was a long time since I ran anything else than ubuntu
[08:43] <sinthetek> Slart: i don't, haha :P. i suspect it might be related to some secret ms/intel conspiracy, hah
[08:44] <zaryk> hello! What do you think of creating a speakers configuration tool for Ubuntu? I've heard that the padevchooser will have that feature in the future.
[08:44] <zaryk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4285380#post4285380
[08:44] <iDivine_> Sigh.. So, You mean, I can't watch embedded web pages videos?
[08:44] <Slart> Duskin: I don't know.. I haven't tried it myself
[08:44] <Invert314> sinthetek, are you the same sinthetek from the indymedia network? lol
[08:44] <Slart> sinthetek: hehe.. indeed
[08:44] <Duskin> ok well i guess i can try it
[08:44] <sinthetek> (or negligence of 'cheaper' consumers who buy amd hardware more often in hopes of not delaying vista's release again :P)
[08:44] <iDivine_> Sigh.. So, You mean, I can't watch embedded web pages videos?
[08:44] <sinthetek> Invert314: haha, whatup, homie?
[08:44] <Slart> iDivine_: well.. you said it yourself.. you can watch some of them =)
[08:45] <sinthetek> deja vu, eh?
[08:45] <Slart> iDivine_: no need to repeat everything..
[08:45] <iDivine_> I did? IT's like SUPER poor quality..
[08:45] <Invert314> yeah
[08:45] <iDivine_> on 56k..
[08:45] <prakriti> if i'm going to clone a drive with dd, what blocksize would be optimal?
[08:45] <FC|Kasei> ok, starting with save grafic mode didn't work either, 10 min blackscreen. i did alt+strg+entf to restart, starting without quiet option, the same, first the loading screen  (4 lines 3ok) the screen went black
[08:45] <Invert314> let's talk in #indymedia, it's less chaotic
[08:47] <Slart> iDivine_: you might be able to tweak it.. or install some extra stuff.. I don't know really... I don't watch many embedded wmv-movies so I haven't really looked into it
[08:47] <FC|Kasei> so why does the lince cd doesn't work
[08:47] <taz> which one terminal i sholud using for compiz-fusion ??
[08:47] <Phildo> Heyas - problem, when i enable any visual effects settings, i lose all my window title bars... everything used to be fine, but today theyve disappeared..
[08:47] <iDivine_> Wow, I would think an OS like Ubuntu, would have SOMETHING, to watch embedded videos.
[08:47] <FC|Kasei> live-cd
[08:47] <Slart> taz: /join #compiz-fusion
[08:48] <Slart> iDivine_: I think wmv is a closed/proprietary format.. might have something to do with it
[08:48] <ghetto> im havinf this problem, i cant install ubuntu, the cd loads the installation interface and all, but then when the ubuntu bar is loading nothing happens :/
[08:48] <taz> just like this /join #compiz-fusio  or  #compiz-fusio
[08:48] <FC|Kasei> idivine i can watch videos on webpages with ubuntu
[08:48] <SlimG> Is the pacakges ndisgtk and ndiswrapper provided by ubuntu 7.10 out-of-box?
[08:48] <iDivine_> .wmv formats?
[08:48] <iDivine_> or Real?..
[08:48] <FC|Kasei> sure
[08:48] <Slart> taz: just type "/join #compiz-fusion".. without the ""
[08:49] <FC|Kasei> live streams although
[08:49] <iDivine_> Sigh..
[08:49] <zh> mplayer can play wma?my can't
[08:49] <FC|Kasei> can you watch normal wmv ?
[08:49] <Slart> !wmv
[08:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:50] <cornishman> !codecs
[08:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:50] <AlexRox> !sex
[08:50] <ubotu> Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[08:50] <Phildo> Guys - when i enable any visual effects settings, i lose all my window title bars... they were there ~a week ago, but disappeared now for some reason - any ideas?
[08:50] <taz> it said no such file
[08:51] <Kevin`> is there a way to have networkmanager manage a network connection on another computer through ssh or something? i'm using an access point connected via usb ethernet for access
[08:51] <ghetto> im havinf this problem, i cant install ubuntu, the cd loads the installation interface and all, but then when the ubuntu bar is loading nothing happens :/
[08:51] <Slart> taz: just type it here.. in the irc-client
[08:51] <Slart> taz: it's another irc-channel
[08:51] <AlexRox> Nope Kevin`
[08:51] <Kevin`> AlexRox :(
[08:51] <AlexRox> Network manager is for the specific machine
[08:51] <AlexRox> sorry
[08:51] <AlexRox> But hey, its linux
[08:51] <Kevin`> any suggestions on a good method to do this?
[08:51] <AlexRox> Keep looking, there is an alternative somewhere
[08:51] <cornishman> Kevin: look at webmin
[08:51] <lia> hi
[08:52] <FC|Kasei> my problem, i'd like to install 7.10 on an athlon 900mhz 512 mb ram, GForce 2 32 mb grafics, but live cd doesn't work (black screen after loading screen)
[08:52] <Kevin`> webmin does wireless scanning/config?
[08:52] <AlexRox> No drivers?
[08:52] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[08:52] <doktoreas> anyone can suggest a syslog server to get log from syslogd?
[08:52] <AlexRox> retr /var/log/syslog
[08:52] <FC|Kasei> atm im downloading alternate cd, but will gnome work with installed ubuntu, when live cd doesn't?
[08:52] <doktoreas> from remote
[08:53] <AlexRox> ah, my bad
[08:53] <doktoreas> like wiki
[08:53] <AlexRox> no clue =)
[08:53] <Kevin`> doktoreas the normal syslog server can do this, just enable it
[08:53] <Duskin> FC|Kasei>yes
[08:53] <kahrytan> ghetto->  errors?
[08:53] <ice63> is there a way to get my ati driver installed ?
[08:53] <Duskin> i had to do the same for my pc to install it
[08:53] <doktoreas> Kevin`, in deafult installation?
[08:53] <taz> wherei can find it irc-channel
[08:53] <Kevin`> doktoreas yes, I believe so.
[08:53] <Duskin> it wouldnt load livecd but worked with alternate fine
[08:54] <FC|Kasei> ok,so why doesn't the live cd work?
[08:54] <iDivine_> !formats
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about formats - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <iDivine_> ...
[08:54] <Kevin`> doktoreas google 'remote sysklogd' (the program) or similar
[08:54] <FC|Kasei> well i will see
[08:54] <iDivine_> !Format
[08:54] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:55] <Kevin`> cornishman doesn't look like webmin has an openwrt package
[08:56] <cornishman> Kevin: your question didn't indicate that you were looking for that
[08:57] <Kevin`> cornishman well, are you sure it does wireless? I wouldn't want to install it manually unless I knew it worked
[08:57] <miss_sunshine> man or command
[08:58] <cornishman> It provides an interface to network administration facilities over ssh tunneling, which at a quick glance I thought you were after.
[08:59] <Kevin`> cornishman 'networkmanager' is the little gui program that manages network connections client side
[09:00] <rian>  hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:01] <miss_sunshine> huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[09:02] <coolbhavi> any divx players for ubuntu?
[09:02] <neosix> hello!
[09:02] <gaten> im having trouble w/ sudo. i've edited the sudoers file to contain this line: 'gaten ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/firefox' as i want to run firefox as a different user via 'sudo -u' without having to enter a password, but everytime i run 'sudo -u ff -H /usr/bin/firefox' i still have to enter a password. any ideas?
[09:03] <FC|Kasei> !divx | coolbhavi
[09:03] <ubotu> coolbhavi: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:03] <Kevin`> coolbhavi all the normal players, if you install codecs
[09:03] <bullgard4> [HTML] What does '<dt> string </dt>' stand for?
[09:03] <coolbhavi> OK
[09:03] <Kevin`> don't see much divx anymore though, usually xvid
[09:04] <mib_hoimx7d7> i think my initrd is broken since my ubuntu install only gets part of the way through bootup. is there any way to fix this without a internet connection?
[09:05] <AlexRox> im off
[09:05] <AlexRox> laterr
[09:05] <lillpelle> oh, I read topic. I got a new flash this morning (1 hour ago), and that one is broken. Do you mean that that one is fixed?
[09:05] <mib_hoimx7d7> anyone?
[09:05] <elmargol> gaten: try 'sudo - -u ff -H -- /usr/bin/firefox'
[09:06] <gaten> elmargol: nope
[09:06] <astro76> gaten: you want su, not sudo
[09:06] <astro76> gaten: sudo is super user do
[09:07] <gaten> astro76:  sudo -u runs the command as another user
[09:07] <regius> Hi can I make virtualbox ose sleep in the background?
[09:08] <mib_hoimx7d7> i think my initrd is broken since my ubuntu install only gets part of the way through bootup. is there any way to fix this?
[09:08] <astro76> gaten: I see
[09:09] <ambu> allo
[09:10] <ambu> personne
[09:10] <bentob0x> anybody knows why Photoshop under wine can't read/use the .pfb fonts that are installed system-wide?
[09:11] <Peanut> Good morning - I have a bit of an Ubuntu Emergency - when I try to boot into Ubuntu, all it will say is "GRUB" and a flashing cursor. This is a MacBookPro with MacOSX and Ubuntu installed. Yesterday I shrank the MacOSX partition by 5GB, then allocated that space to my Ubuntu single partition using Gparted. Worked like a charm, booted well for both Linux and MacOSX.
[09:11] <astro76> bentob0x: because anything win only sees the fake windows directory under ~/.wine/
[09:11] <astro76> bentob0x: *anything wine
[09:11] <Peanut> But then I ran out of the extra 5GB too, and now I can't boot Ubuntu at all anymore :-(
[09:12] <astro76> Peanut: boot with a livecd and delete some files
[09:13] <Peanut> astro76: oh, there is diskspace aplenty on the Ubuntu again - but I fear that having the disk full and the boot area in the middle of that 5GB disk killed my bootloader in some way.
[09:13] <zetheroo> can I get USB working in Virtual Box?
[09:13] <Peanut> Because I grew the Ubuntu partition downwards, so to say, which Gparted supports just fine.
[09:14] <ogre> how do i run a command as root on a usb stick?
[09:14] <Peanut> ogre: if you mean you booted from that stick and it has no users configured: just 'sudo bash'.
[09:15] <zetheroo> anyone?
[09:15] <ogre> Peanut:  no im actually trying to set boot on that stick using a script
[09:15] <Peanut> Then I'm afraid I didn't understand your question, please try again :-)
[09:16] <Peanut> I have just booted with the live CD. My Ubuntu partition on the HD still has 1.24GiB available.
[09:16] <Peanut> What would I need to do to get it bootable again?
[09:16] <ogre> i am trying to run a script on a usb stick but ubuntu says i dont have permissions
[09:16] <ghetto> Peanut try here
[09:16] <ghetto> http://support.microsoft.com/ph/2971
[09:16] <ghetto> ROFLCOPTER
[09:17] <Kevin`> Peanut chroot and run grub-install
[09:17] <Peanut> ogre: Try copying the script from the USB to your homedir? Perhaps the stick is mounted without execute or suid permissions?
[09:18] <Peanut> Kevin`: ah, good plan. Should I run a fsck first?
[09:18] <ghetto> Peanut try here http://support.microsoft.com/ph/2971
[09:18] <Kevin`> Peanut probably a good idea
[09:18] <ghetto> ROFLCOPTER
[09:18] <Kevin`> blah blah?
[09:18] <ghetto> ROFLCOPTER
[09:18] <Peanut> Ok, here goes nothing.. wish me luck ;-)
[09:19] <ogre> Peanut:  well i dont want to copy it because im trying to make the USB stick bootable itself
[09:19] <ghetto> all the problems are solved here
[09:19] <ghetto> http://support.microsoft.com/ph/2971
[09:19] <ghetto> ROFLCOPTER
[09:19] <astro76> !ops | ghetto
[09:19] <ubotu> ghetto: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[09:20] <Kevin`> ogre do it as root (sudo script or sudo -i)
[09:21] <ghetto> Kevin` u may wan to chek here
[09:21] <ghetto> http://support.microsoft.com/ph/2971
[09:21] <ghetto> ROFLCOPTER
[09:21] <Kevin`> ghetto why?
[09:21] <Peanut> Kevin: when I chroot, I don't have /dev/sda3 on the chrooted filesystem - should I use the --root-directory argument to grub-install instead?
[09:22] <mib_hoimx7d7> whats the command to create a new initrd?
[09:22] <Kevin`> Peanut you can, yes, if you have grub on the host filesystem
[09:22] <Kevin`> Peanut otherwise mount -o bind /dev /mnt/chroot/dev
[09:22] <ogre> Kevin`:  tyvm
[09:22] <Peanut> Kevin: I'd hope so, that's my Ubuntu I'm trying to revive.
[09:22] <ghetto> ogre u may want to check here dude
[09:23] <ghetto> http://support.microsoft.com/ph/2971
[09:23] <ghetto> ROFLCOPTEr
[09:24] <ogre> yeah pretty trollish
[09:24] <ghetto> i want to be a ROFLCOPTER
[09:24] <Peanut> Hey nemilar - I take back the message I sent you yesterday, now it won't boot anymore, just says GRUB :-)
[09:24] <ghetto> maybe i should try here
[09:24] <ghetto> to microsoft.com spammer useless
[09:24] <astro76> !ops | ghetto
[09:25] <compwiz18> !hi
[09:25] <compwiz18> ubotu died.
[09:26] <ghetto> if u wanna know how to fic ubotu u may want to chek here www.adobe/ubuntu
[09:26] <ghetto> ROFLCOPTER
[09:26] <ubotu> ghetto: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[09:26] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about died. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <Kevin`> I find it hard to believe there are people stupid enough to be spammers/trolls
[09:26] <mib_hoimx7d7> i think my initrd is broken since my ubuntu install only gets part of the way through bootup. is there any way to fix this?
[09:27] <ghetto> spammers, u may want to chek it out here www.linux.org/windowsinstall
[09:27] <ghetto> ROFLCOPTER
[09:27] <mha> On a 7.10 system my RAID-1 resync speeds goes from 40MB/s on a 2.6.17 to 6MB/s and VERY unresponsitive system with a 2.6.22 (gusty stock) or 2.6.24 (hardy stock).
[09:27] <mha> Quite modern computer, P4 3.06GHz, SATA-drives, ICH7 chipsets etc.
[09:28] <FC|Kasei> its nice that you can ignore people
[09:28] <elkbuntu> FC|Kasei, yeah, but doesnt mean you should have to
[09:28] <compwiz18> its nice we keep ops around to get rid of them too :) (btw, thanks elkbuntu)
[09:28] <Kevin`> mha is the disk itself working at the proper speed? maybe dma got disabled or something sillt
[09:28] <FC|Kasei> right^^
[09:29] <Peng> Is it possible to get Ubuntu to stop screwing with my /etc/resolv.conf?
[09:29] <mha> Kevin`: afaik DMA cannot be set on SATA drives (hdparm dosen't have the field). However read/write speeds to the single discs are seemingly having good performance on both 2.6.{17,22}.
[09:29] <Peng> I don't want to use the prepend-hosts or whatever thing because I have comments in it.
[09:29] <mha> Kevin`: when the kernel is upgraded, the raid resync sucks. :)
[09:29] <Kevin`> mha make 2.6.24 stock and report to lkml
[09:29] <NoiseFree> I'm tyring to find live cd ubuntu. Is this the regular desktop cd? or ..?
[09:30] <compwiz18> Peng: if you have your heart set on keeping it the way it is: sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf will make it unwritable to ANYTHING (and that includes root) sudo chattr -i /etc/resolv.conf will undo it, make it root writable again
[09:30] <mha> Kevin`: was my next move unless I got some other tip/feedback yes.
[09:30] <Kevin`> mha I didn't have this problem with raid5, though, on my system
[09:31] <blackjohn> mporei kapoios na voi8isei enan arxario???
[09:32] <Kevin`> hi ubotu
[09:32] <Peng> compwiz18: That sounds good, but I'm not using ext2 or ext3.
[09:32] <compwiz18> Peng: ah, then it probably won't help :) soryr
[09:33] <mib_hoimx7d7> anyone want to try and hlep me?
[09:33] <Peng> compwiz18: Thanks for the tip though. It could come in handy in the future.
[09:33] <blackjohn> υπάρχει κάποιος έλληνας να βοηθήσει έναν αρχάριο στο ubuntu710????
[09:33] <compwiz18> Peng: no problem
[09:33] <compwiz18> !ru | blackjohn
[09:33] <blag> how does ubuntu handle forkbombs?
[09:33] <compwiz18> blag: by locking up?
[09:34] <FC|Kasei> NoiseFree: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Downloads
[09:34] <Kevin`> blag man limits.conf
[09:34] <Kevin`> or.. where is it..
[09:34] <blag> Kevin, thanks.  compwiz18: lol
[09:34] <mib_hoimx7d7> kernel panic : not syncing; VFS; Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block
[09:34] <rian> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:34] <ubotu> blackjohn: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[09:34] <blag> Kevin, that seems to have worked for me...
[09:35] <compwiz18> blag: I think I'll edit my limits.conf too :D
[09:35] <wpk> hmm... seems like ubotu can't tell russian from greek
[09:35] <compwiz18> wpk: that was me, sorry :P
[09:37] <blag> is there any talk of getting forkbombs recognized and avoided in devel?  notice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grsecurity  <-- a forkbomb detector
[09:37] <elkbuntu> rian, if you have a question, just ask it. greetings only clog a support channel :)
[09:38] <mib_hoimx7d7> kernel panic : not syncing; VFS; Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block
[09:38] <mib_hoimx7d7> anyone want to try and hlep me?
[09:38] <rian> hiiiiii
[09:39] <PKdoR> Finally my ubuntu is setup just like I like it
[09:39] <Demonho-br> hello
[09:39] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: do you have a seperate /boot partition?
[09:39] <Demonho-br> someone can help me
[09:39] <mib_hoimx7d7> pajamian: no
[09:39] <raid_user> Hi All! First sorry my English! I have a 4 * 750 GB hdd = 3 TB and 1 320 GB hdd... I'm installing Ubuntu on 320 GB and I want make other disk 3 TB RAID 5... I have Bios raid5 but I think so Linux not support bios raid yet. I research and fount mdadm command... This command a stabil? have any bug or problem? thansk all...
[09:40] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: so it's just under the root partition, then, what filesystem is it?
[09:40] <mib_hoimx7d7> pajamian: i just updated my kernel and deleted a partition other than the ubuntu
[09:40] <mib_hoimx7d7> pajamian: and that error appeared on boot
[09:40] <Demonho-br> i have a sony notebook, my keyboard is U.S  and i had set  u.s keyboard with deadkeys.. i tried intl   but nothing is working !!! look c~ao  ´e   ´i   i want these symbols  ¨ ´ ~ ¨  above letters, what can i do ? :(  my xorg is ok
[09:40] <PKdoR> but I am still debateng about a good Vm app Im bettewn VMWare or Virtualbox
[09:41] <mib_hoimx7d7> pajamian ext3
[09:41] <mib_hoimx7d7> virtualbox has seemless integration with windows
[09:41] <zetheroo> hey I am trying to follow the Ubuntu Guide online about working with SAMBA ....... but I am a bit stumped here....sudo smbpasswd -a system_username
[09:41] <Demonho-br> ikonia, do u know how to configure keyboar ? =\
[09:41] <zetheroo> can someone help me ?
[09:41] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: ok, I think it means that grub is having problems with the partition that /boot is on.  can you boot to a rescue disk/livecd/alternate install cd and mount your root partition from there?
[09:41] <mib_hoimx7d7> yes i can
[09:42] <mib_hoimx7d7> i was talknig to someone earlier and we narrowed it down to needing to rebuild/reconfigure my initrd
[09:42] <Demonho-br> what about my keyboard please.
[09:42] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: ok, so partition table would be good and the root partition is good, that is very good.  Yes, it probably is your initrd.
[09:42] <mib_hoimx7d7> any ideas?
[09:42] <PKdoR> the reason VMware im still considering is bacause a lot of the VMs I get from Tux distro come in VMWare format and Virtual Box does not completelly support it atleast no snap shots
[09:43] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: or it makes sense that could be it.  I can't see why it needs to be rebuilt, though, how did you come to that conclusion?
[09:44] <Demonho-br> =\
[09:44] <mib_hoimx7d7> well i just upgraded my kernel and grub is configured correctly. in addition we were able to get partially through the bootup sequence and it stopped
[09:44] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: are you sure grub is configured correctly?  can you paste your menu.lst?
[09:45] <pajamian> ...to the pastebin, I mean
[09:45] <pajamian> not in channel
[09:45] <mib_hoimx7d7> well im not on the computer that has the problem. it cant get internet
[09:45] <Nulo> Hi, when I plug in my USB Epson D88 printer the system recognises it (it comes out in the syslog), but in CUPS the option to add a parallel/usb printer is greyed out. Where am I going wrong? (Kubuntu Dapper 6.06)
[09:45] <mib_hoimx7d7> but i assure you i spent a good 1-2hrs making sure grub was configured correctly
[09:45] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: can't connect to the network at all, not even on a live cd or rescue disk?
[09:46] <mib_hoimx7d7> pajamian: nope. im at a college that has propritary software that needs to be installed to access the internet
[09:47] <PKdoR> any body here running Ubunu on a PS3?
[09:47] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: ok.  Well if you're sure that your menu.lst is fine ... hrmmmm
[09:48] <mib_hoimx7d7> i am
[09:48] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: is it i686 or x64?
[09:48] <mib_hoimx7d7> i686
[09:49] <clusty> hey
[09:49] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: and you just ran the recent kernel update and that's when it stopped working, right?
[09:49] <clusty> tryuing to get running but it crashes and burns. it lists as fatal error-: no valid fontpath found
[09:49] <clusty> am I missing siome packages or just misconfigured?
[09:49] <clusty> ...been a long time since I tried getting X running from scratch
[09:50] <mib_hoimx7d7> well i updated the kernel then deleted a partition and it stopped working afterward
[09:50] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: ok ... what size is your initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic ?
[09:51] <mib_hoimx7d7> i have initrd.img-2.6.20-16 and its 6.8mb
[09:51] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: that's old
[09:52] <mib_hoimx7d7> yeah
[09:52] <pajamian> mib one sec ...
[09:52] <mib_hoimx7d7> well the synaptic packet manager told me to update and i did
[09:52] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: yes, I have initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic on my box, and it's 7233642 in size
[09:53] <pajamian> so yours is definately old
[09:53] <mib_hoimx7d7> mines 7162509
[09:53] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: it is running gutsy, right?
[09:53] <mib_hoimx7d7> fiesty
[09:53] <Nulo> Hi, when I plug in my USB Epson D88 printer the system recognises it (it comes out in the syslog), but in CUPS the option to add a parallel/usb printer is greyed out. Where am I going wrong? (Kubuntu Dapper 6.06)
[09:53] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: oh, that could make the difference
[09:53] <Slart> I installed the flash update.. and, ironically, it killed flash for me.. it doesn't work any more.. am I the only one?
[09:53] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: sorry, I just assumed it was gutsy.
[09:54] <mib_hoimx7d7> slart everyone has been saying that
[09:54] <Slart> mib_hoimx7d7: ah.. thanks.. I'll just get my pitchfork and torch and get in line to stab someone =)
[09:54] <pajamian> is anyone else here running fiesty and can confirm the current initrd filename and size for mib_hoimx7d7 ?
[09:54] <asdrubal> Howdy everyone
[09:54] <mib_hoimx7d7> please!!
[09:55] <mib_hoimx7d7> asdrubal are you runnig fiesty?
[09:55] <asdrubal> mib_hoimx7d7, yeah, sup
[09:56] <mib_hoimx7d7> can you check the size nad name of your initrd.img file
[09:56] <mib_hoimx7d7> i need to compare to see if mine is correct or not
[09:56] <pajamian> asdrubal: i686, right?
[09:56] <mib_hoimx7d7> yes
[09:58] <mib_hoimx7d7> did you find out?
[10:01] <nemilar> sup yizzzooo dis be da NEMZY reppin' da 6-3-1 yo holla
[10:01] <asdrubal> mib_hoimx7d7, I'm running a custom kernel
[10:01] <clusty> any1 trying to get X running
[10:01] <jonnymac> why will my USB speakers not work for firefox or VLC when they'll work with rhythmbox? please...
[10:02] <Peanut> *sigh* I did install-grub, but now I have 3 bootable icons in rEFIt, two of wich are Linux and both say 'GRUB' when I boot them, nothing more.
[10:02] <mib_hoimx7d7> pajamian: when i try to boot up it says RAMDISK compressed image found at block 0        crc error          Kernel panic VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown block
[10:02] <PKdoR> how can I change the DPI
[10:02] <blag> anybody know a good way to get ifconfig to tell me my ip address without greping or awking anything?
[10:03] <NoiseFree> I'm looking for a bittorrent of the live CD 5.10, is there any?
[10:03] <nemilar> blag: you want just the IP address?
[10:03] <pajamian> blag: ifconfig
[10:03] <pajamian> just look for the ip address in the output
[10:04] <blag> nemilar, pajamian: just the ip address, as in www.xxx.yyy.zzz
[10:04] <iari> Anyone knows a good CD Burning app ?  (not for console)
[10:04] <blag> its going into a script
[10:04] <nemilar> iari: check out Brasero for Gnome and k3b for KDE
[10:04] <nemilar> blag: if it's going into a script, what's it matter if you use grep/awk
[10:04] <Pirate_Hunter> iari: you mean cli CD burning app?
[10:05] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: yeah, I'm trying to find which package initrd comes from.
[10:05] <mib_hoimx7d7> pajamian: ok thanks
[10:05] <NoiseFree> guys: 	breezy-live-i386.iso, do I read this properly as "Live 5.10 Ubuntu for Intel 32-bit"?
[10:05] <blag> nemilar: other people will look at the script, and so it would be really nice if it was a bit more elegant
[10:05] <iari> nemilar: Private_Hunter: Thanks!
[10:05] <blag> but, i suppose simply piping it around is the unix way...
[10:05] <blag> (tm)
[10:05] <pajamian> blag: you can always use perl, heh
[10:05] <pajamian> ...instead of grep or awk
[10:05] <jay-oh-en> what can i do to make flash faster?
[10:06] <blag> pajamian: lol, true, and my roommate even knows perl
[10:06] <nemilar> jay-oh-en: there's the $1,000,000 question
[10:06] <jay-oh-en> nemilar, lo
[10:06] <neko_> install flashblock ?
[10:06]  * NoiseFree wonders if he got the wrong channel
[10:06] <Pirate_Hunter> iari: you shouldntn't thank me I was asking if you wanted a CD burning app that only work in command line, thats what i understood :(
[10:06] <jay-oh-en> neko_, whats flashblock
[10:06] <Paki_m_bored_in_> Hi all I upgraded my system yesterday. There was an upgrade for non free flashplayer plugin as well which i upgraded
[10:06] <Paki_m_bored_in_> now its not working in firefox
[10:07] <mib_hoimx7d7> Paki_m_bored_in_: everyone is saying that the upgrade was broken
[10:07] <nemilar> !flash > Paki_m_bored_in_
[10:07] <Paki_m_bored_in_> Ok :)
[10:07] <Paki_m_bored_in_> !flash
[10:07] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:07] <Pirate_Hunter> jay-oh-en: an app that blocks flash on pages and you can give permissions to the ones you want
[10:07] <neko_> a firefox addon that replace flash objects with button to activate them
[10:07] <nemilar> jay-oh-en: ^^^ ( look up)
[10:08] <pajamian> Paki_m_bored_in_: same here, upgrade is broken.  what I did was just download and install flash direct from adobe.
[10:08] <nemilar> www.ubuntuforums.org <------ down??
[10:08] <Pirate_Hunter> nemilar: wouldnt think so are you sure?
[10:08] <pajamian> I really would like to see a better method for installing flash, heh, rather a pain that the installer never seems to work lately.
[10:08] <kandala> Hello all, I was doing a Fiesty upgrade from Edgy and the upgrade stopped in between and the comp was frozen. I had to reboot and when I did that, I get an error "ALERT! /dev/disak/by-uuid/**** does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" I get this prompt (initramfs).
[10:08] <nemilar> Pirate_Hunter: it just came back up for me
[10:09] <nemilar> Pirate_Hunter: I was getting timeout messages for a while
[10:09] <Pirate_Hunter> nemilar: ok cause it works heer :D
[10:10] <mib_hoimx7d7> pajamian: find anything usefull?
[10:10] <Pirate_Hunter> kandala: try to rertieve you /home folder thorugh the liveCD or just install it again without formating the disk
[10:10] <nemilar> Pirate_Hunter: now it's not working again :( :(
[10:10] <iari> Private_Hunter: No, i wanted a CD burning app with interface..
[10:10] <Pirate_Hunter> nemilar: kk let me check it out i really doubt it, might be your onnection if ur using wireless
[10:10] <pajamian> yeah, I think it's in systemimager-boot-i386-standard
[10:11] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: nm, it can't be
[10:11] <Pirate_Hunter> iari: OK i misunderstood the no console part just woke up and its my day off :D
[10:11] <pajamian> I don't have that package on my system
[10:11] <pajamian> heh
[10:11] <nemilar> Pirate_Hunter: nah, my connection is fine
[10:11] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: I'm starting to think it is generated, not sure how, though.
[10:11] <kandala> Pirate_Hunter: Will all my data be safe ?
[10:12] <kandala> Pirate_Hunter: which is why I am doing an upgrade
[10:12] <mib_hoimx7d7> something to do with dpkg i think????
[10:12] <pajamian> hang on, google is your friend (and mine)
[10:12] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/utils/initrd-tools
[10:13] <Bodsda> hi guys
[10:13] <Pirate_Hunter> kandalaWell that depends if you use the live CD and either tranfers the data to another HD or CD it will be safe otherwise you could try to install it again but youll have to retrieve /home which is tricky (i dont exactly know how to do that)
[10:13] <xen_> Hey there im having problems with "apollon" how on earth do i use this program? i would like a program similar to limewire, so if theres any alternative to apollon please state, thanks
[10:13] <Pirate_Hunter> kandala: or try knopix which is good for repairs
[10:13]  * Bodsda seconds knopix
[10:14] <jay-oh-en> !paste
[10:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:14] <xen_> is there any application like limewire available for kubuntu?
[10:14] <Bodsda> deluge
[10:14] <kandala> Pirate_Hunter: okay. Thanks
[10:14] <jay-oh-en> how do i do this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55065/
[10:15] <Bodsda> xen_, why not search synaptic for p2p
[10:15] <xen_> im using kubuntu
[10:15] <asdrubal> try ktorrent
[10:15] <xen_> and i tried that in adept, but no resluts :S
[10:15] <Pirate_Hunter> xen_: Gtk-Gnutella, e donkey etc search online
[10:15] <xen_> no, ktorrent not the same as limewire
[10:15] <xen_> thats a torrent client
[10:15] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=61284 looks like it has your answer
[10:15] <xen_> i know limewire is too etc etc
[10:15] <jay-oh-en> xen_, why dont you use limewire or frostwire they both work on kubuntu
[10:15] <xen_> but still not the same
[10:15] <Pirate_Hunter> asdrubal: ktorrent is not like limewire it doesnt search the gnutella network
[10:15] <Bodsda> jay-oh-en, you need the latest version of java
[10:16] <xen_> ah ok didnt realise that limewire is available on linux
[10:16] <Bodsda> xen_, why not google for it?
[10:16] <Peanut> Second try - I have a bit of an Ubuntu Emergency - when I try to boot into Ubuntu, all it will say is "GRUB" and a flashing cursor. This is a MacBookPro with MacOSX and Ubuntu installed. Yesterday I shrank the MacOSX partition by 5GB, then allocated that space to my Ubuntu single partition using Gparted. Worked like a charm, booted well for both Linux and MacOSX.
[10:16] <xen_> well why dont i bloody google for everything eh mate
[10:16] <xen_> jesus just after some advcie
[10:16] <asdrubal> WHat is libboost?
[10:16] <Peanut> I have enough diskspace again on the Linux one, but it seems to have wiped out whatever it needs to boot :-(
[10:16] <jay-oh-en> Bodsda, so how do i do that
[10:16] <Peanut> I can mount the filesystem fine when booting from the CD
[10:17] <Bodsda> search synaptic for java,.,. i dunno what the latest version is, but you need anything over 1.5,.,. just search synaptic for   java
[10:18] <Bodsda> Peanut, do you get a grub loader selection thingy?
[10:18] <mib_hoimx7d7> pajamian  the live cd doesnt have mkinitrd on it so i cant make the new initrd :(
[10:18] <Peanut> No, only the word 'GRUB' and a flashing cursor.
[10:19] <DASPRiD> he
[10:19] <DASPRiD> in which package is `dig` included?
[10:19] <jay-oh-en> Bodsda, its not in synaptic past 1.5 only 1.4
[10:19] <citm> how do i get cd-roms recognised by APT? what do i type? cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)]/dists/gutsy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[10:19] <Pirate_Hunter> Peanut: have you tried restarting i.e. turn of the mac/pull out the power for a few seconds than turn it on, ive seen that beofre I doubt you touch  anything
[10:19] <Bodsda> Peanut, maybe your GRUB loader is broken, i cant understand how tho, u didnt remove any space from the ubuntu partition,.,. but im afraid i cant really help,.,. im not that good
[10:19] <Bodsda> jay-oh-en, 1 sec,.lemme check
[10:19] <Keigo-kun> I can't get X to work, it starts but gives me the error that Screen 0 is not DRI compatible or something
[10:20] <jay-oh-en> Peanut, do a sudo apt-get install grub
[10:20] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: brb
[10:20] <jay-oh-en> !grub | Peanut
[10:20] <ubotu> Peanut: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:20] <Peanut> Pirate_Hunter: haven't tried that - so I might have to remove the battery too, you mean?
[10:21] <Bodsda> jay-oh-en, lol,. i dont even have java installed,.,.;),.,.sorry,. erm, make sure you;ve enabled all your repo's
[10:21] <Pirate_Hunter> hmm baterry just thought u were using a powercable but yeah its like a hard reset
[10:21] <citm> !flv
[10:21] <jay-oh-en> Peanut, on your mother board? no
[10:21] <citm> !flash
[10:21] <citm> !swf
[10:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:21] <citm> !adobe
[10:21] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <Pirate_Hunter> Peanut: hmm baterry just thought u were using a powercable but yeah its like a hard reset
[10:21] <Peanut> jay-oh-en: thanks,but doesnt' help me as this machine has never even bean near a Windwos CD.
[10:21] <jay-oh-en> Bodsda, they are
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adobe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <Peanut> jay-oh-en: this is a laptop, macbookpro - meant the regular laptop battery.
[10:21] <nemilar> citm: if you want to query the bot you can msg it
[10:21] <jay-oh-en> Peanut, that tells you how to repair it
[10:22] <jay-oh-en> Peanut, oh yeah then take that out
[10:22] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: found it ... it's update-initramfs
[10:22] <Bodsda> pajamian, what are you doing with initram?
[10:22] <mib_hoimx7d7> pajamian thats the command ?
[10:22] <Le-Chuck_IT2> Hi all, I need to know a way to re-generate the original /etc/X11/xorg.conf that is created at ubuntu install time. I am testing hardy and lost my xorg.conf. dpkg-reconfigure -plow is not the answer since the file it generates does not contain the stuff for wacom tablet
[10:22] <jay-oh-en> !java
[10:22] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[10:22] <Keigo-kun> I need to get some default basic settings for xorg.conf, anyway to do it from the terminal?
[10:23] <pajamian> Bodsda: me, nothing, I'm trying to find the command to regenerate initrd for mib_hoimx7d7
[10:23] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: yes, check the man page
[10:23] <Bodsda> pajamian, oh, i thought you were doing something exciting like putting pretty pictures behind the grub menu,.,.lol,.,.;)
[10:23] <Pirate_Hunter> who keeps spamming jave/flash every so second its getting annoying please stop
[10:23] <Le-Chuck_IT2> Keigo-kin
[10:23] <Bodsda> can we stop with the bot flooding plz,. if you wanna ask the bot a question, do it privately
[10:23] <taz> hi please can u help me to get cube.. can u tell me step to step please
[10:23] <pajamian> Bodsda: he seems to have a corrupt initrd.
[10:24] <Le-Chuck_IT2> Keigo-kun: dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[10:24] <Keigo-kun> Le-Chuck_IT2: Thanks!
[10:24] <Bodsda> pajamian, thats not good,.,. corrupt means bad ,.,.;~)
[10:24] <Pirate_Hunter> Keigo-kun: i doubt it if you havent backed it up, try to set it using generic values
[10:24] <Bodsda> taz,.i will
[10:24] <taz> thanks
[10:24] <Le-Chuck_IT2> nobody knows how to regenerate the default xorg.conf without re-installing
[10:24] <Bodsda> taz,  have you registered with nick serv,. can you send pm's?
[10:25] <pajamian> Bodsda: I'm probably not the best person to help him with this, I don't know much about it myself, if you know more, then please take over, I'll be happy to watch and learn, hehehe.
[10:25] <Le-Chuck_IT2> Come on I destroyed mine to reply to a bug report question :)
[10:25] <taz> umm i not understand
[10:25] <Pirate_Hunter> Le-Chuck_IT2: dont think thats possible unless you backed it up yourself, just try to set it up using generic values, what are you trying to do anyway
[10:25] <mib_hoimx7d7> i dont know anything about the bootup sequence so its all good help
[10:26] <Le-Chuck_IT2> Pirate_Hunter: what is the tool that generates it in principle?
[10:26] <Bodsda> pajamian, me, no more, ha, unlikely,. im a 2month linux user m8,.,. not too good im afraid, i played with initram when i started mucking round with grub,.,. its fun
[10:26] <Pirate_Hunter> Le-Chuck_IT2: how can you destroy x replying to a bug report?
[10:26] <Bodsda> !register | taz
[10:26] <Le-Chuck_IT2> Pirate_Hunter: I had to check the "new" configuration tools
[10:26] <ubotu> taz: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[10:26] <copacabana> elo
[10:26] <pajamian> Bodsda: ok, cool, well we can probably mungle through it somehow, hehehe
[10:26] <Bodsda> taz read the message from ubotu and follow the link,.,.
[10:26] <Pirate_Hunter> Le-Chuck_IT2: this aint DBZ (regenerate) you have to use the command for X to set it up manually
[10:26] <Le-Chuck_IT2> Pirate_Hunter: I have now three or four xorg.conf with different extensions and don't know what the original one is
[10:26] <Bodsda> pajamian, who r u helping?
[10:27] <Peanut> Jay! I got my Ubuntu back. Now let's hope there's still a MacOSX left on the machine.. *fingers crossed*
[10:27] <pajamian> Bodsda: mib_hoimx7d7
[10:27] <copacabana> ohhh f***k
[10:27] <Pirate_Hunter> Le-Chuck_IT2: so you have backups than?
[10:27] <Le-Chuck_IT2> Pirate_Hunter: you mean X -config or something like that?
[10:27] <Bodsda> pajamian, and what doesnt work?
[10:27] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: wanna tell Bodsda what happens when you try to boot?
[10:27] <Le-Chuck_IT2> Pirate_Hunter: I am not completely sure
[10:28] <mib_hoimx7d7> sure
[10:28] <taz> yes already
[10:28] <Pirate_Hunter> Le-Chuck_IT2: yea x-config and if you are not sure it means you created those yourself so dont bother
[10:28] <Le-Chuck_IT2> Pirate_Hunter: because I thought my backup was xorg.conf.1 (generated by the screen settings configuration) but it is not working the same
[10:28] <Bodsda> taz, have you registered?
[10:28] <mib_hoimx7d7> Bodsda: when i boot i get a vfs kernel panic error
[10:28] <taz> yes
[10:28] <Bodsda> ok
[10:28] <eth01> j #networking
[10:28] <Bodsda> mib_hoimx7d7, did you google that?
[10:29] <Bodsda> taz, i sent you a pm
[10:29] <mib_hoimx7d7> Bodsda: yes i did but i can up mostly empty handed
[10:29] <Pirate_Hunter> Le-Chuck_IT2: I hope this helps you https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/4273 that is if you have a valid backup
[10:29] <Bodsda> mib_hoimx7d7, ok, lemme have a google,. brb
[10:29] <taz> hpld
[10:29] <taz> hold
[10:30] <Le-Chuck_IT2> Pirate_Hunter: I restricted my attention to two backups (I remembered about a keyword that I had set up some time ago)
[10:30] <Bodsda> taz,  have you got ccsm?
[10:30] <Le-Chuck_IT2> so if none of them works again, it's fault of today's X updates
[10:30] <davi1> I have tried to get vmware player working... but everytime I restart the machine its not working again
[10:30] <Pirate_Hunter> Le-Chuck_IT2: if the link helps try that or reconfigure xorg yourself
[10:30] <mib_hoimx7d7> pajamian: i typed update-initrdramfs -k `uname -r` -c and i got the error getopt: not found
[10:31] <Bodsda> mib_hoimx7d7,  whats the rest of the error?
[10:31] <davi1> help please
[10:31] <Le-Chuck_IT2> Pirate_Hunter: or I will just start the livecd and copy the xorg.conf file... what a dumb :)
[10:31] <taz> my wife need me ... sorry.. i get go and will come back again  later  . bye
[10:31] <Le-Chuck_IT2> didn't realize it's that easy
[10:31] <Bodsda> mib_hoimx7d7, try update-initramfs -u
[10:31] <Bodsda> taz ok,. will prob be here
[10:32] <mib_hoimx7d7> it said first:  cannot open root device NULL or unkowon-block
[10:32] <mib_hoimx7d7> then: kernel panic - not syncing : VFS: unable to mount root FS on unknown-block
[10:32] <Le-Chuck_IT2> Pirate_Hunter: thanks for your help
[10:32] <pajamian> Bodsda: would it help if he chroot-ed?
[10:32] <Bodsda> mib_hoimx7d7,  so your unable to boot, completely?
[10:32] <Pirate_Hunter> Le-Chuck_IT2: that could work would never think of that, nice thinking outside the box *im amused*
[10:32] <mib_hoimx7d7> yes
[10:32] <Bodsda> pajamian, if i knew what chroot'ing was i might be able to answer you,.,.lol
[10:32] <mib_hoimx7d7> i already did pajamian
[10:33] <Bodsda> mib_hoimx7d7, can you boot from the live cd?
[10:33] <qzio> i have big problems with the sun-java6-bin package.. i cant install it, i cant remove it. is there some fancy i thing i can do and just ignore it?
[10:33] <mib_hoimx7d7> yes Bodsda
[10:33] <Bodsda> mib_hoimx7d7, boot into the live cd now
[10:33] <sniff> wow this chan is big :e
[10:33] <mib_hoimx7d7> i have
[10:34] <pajamian> Bodsda: mib_hoimx7d7 basically the problem is he can't boot, so he needs to boot to a rescue CD or live CD / whatever and then mount the root partition somewhere.  chroot will allow that root partition to actually look like it's mounted as root so that any commands he runs from there will affect it with the proper libs, etc.
[10:34] <Bodsda> qzio,  id be more interested in why you can remove it
[10:34] <mib_hoimx7d7> and i have mounted and chroot'd to the partition
[10:34] <Bodsda> pajamian, yes
[10:34] <Bodsda> ;)
[10:34] <sniff> anybody knows if the ncurses interface of aptitude -s would do any changes?
[10:34] <Bodsda> mib_hoimx7d7, can you pastebin the output of     dmesg     please
[10:35] <mib_hoimx7d7> pajamian: the flag -u produces the error /usr/sbin/update-initramfs: 502: not found
[10:36] <Bodsda> mib_hoimx7d7,  meaning you dont have the command update-initramfs
[10:36] <mib_hoimx7d7> Bodsda: the computer im fixing doesnt have access to the internet im using another computer right now
[10:36] <qzio> Bodsda: hu? shouldn't i be able to remove it?
[10:36] <Bodsda> qzio, yer i meant cant,.,. worry about why you cant remove it,.
[10:36] <Le-Chuck_IT2> bye all
[10:36] <qzio> Bodsda: i cant install it, and i cant do anything else with apt/aptitude. it just whines about this package
[10:36] <Bodsda> bye
[10:36] <Photo1> Good day gentlemen!
[10:36] <brizben> Hi there I am having issues with my webcam. The driver is in the kernel but all I get on Ekiga is a white blurry image.
[10:36] <Le-Chuck_IT2> 7leave
[10:36] <Le-Chuck_IT2> uff
[10:36] <qzio> Bodsda: ye me to, i just want to get rid of it..
[10:37] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: what crap do you normally have to go through to get it on the internet?
[10:37] <Bodsda> qzio, computers dont wine, they give error messages,. posting those wold be a good start
[10:37] <Bodsda> Photo1, Good day to you too
[10:37] <m41n1> hello, i've a kind of problem. I installed ubuntu in a Sony Vaio, it works file but can't browse any website. Ping works even with www address, dns's are set up...i don't know what to try
[10:37] <davi1> why is it that when I try to install VMware player from the Add and Remove Applications app that it tells me that I cannot becasue my computer is not supported?
[10:38] <sniff`> anybody knows if the ncurses interface of aptitude -s would do any changes?
[10:38] <Bodsda> mib_hoimx7d7, this other computer you have, which has the internet,. is it the same distro as the machine your trying to fix?
[10:38] <davi1> anyone?
[10:38] <Bodsda> m41n1, try dhcp
[10:38] <mib_hoimx7d7> Bodsda: no im afraid its not  even my computer and hence has vista
[10:39] <vallhalla81> i need help finding a distro that will run on a old laptop (dell pentium 2 160ram )
[10:39] <Bodsda> mib_hoimx7d7, oh,,.damn,.,.you need it on the internet realy,,..,.im not sure what else you can try
[10:39] <m41n1> bodsa, i've already tried that
[10:39] <Bodsda> vallhalla81, dapper?
[10:39] <mib_hoimx7d7> pajamian: i have to run a web based java client to log in and identify myself. however the live cd doesnt have the client built in and the college i go to restricts web access
[10:39] <mib_hoimx7d7> pajamian: so i cant istall it from java.com or packet manager :(
[10:39] <vallhalla81> i will look it up
[10:40] <qzio> Bodsda: http://gottfolk.se/apt-errors.txt
[10:40] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: you have mounted and chrooted on your machine though.  Any reason why you can't run the client now?
[10:40] <Bodsda> mib_hoimx7d7, go to the tech-guys,.,. they have full access, tell them you cant do the course without a certain file from a blocked site,.,. sorted!
[10:41] <mib_hoimx7d7> pajamian: what do you mean run the client. its web based so i'd have to run the firefox from my partition
[10:41] <Bodsda> qzio, first do       sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:41] <qzio> Bodsda: yupp, done that, the ugprade throws the same errors
[10:42] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: try startx, see if you can get into gnome and run FF
[10:42] <mib_hoimx7d7> pajamian: no dice :(
[10:42] <Bodsda> qzio,  oh hang on then
[10:43] <qzio> Bodsda: http://gottfolk.se/apt-error-upgrade.txt for the aptitude safe-upgrade
[10:43] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: you booted to the live CD, right?  you running gnome already?
[10:43] <mib_hoimx7d7> yes
[10:43] <Bodsda> qzio,  this is the bits that are broken, ive g2g now, but ask in here if anyone understands this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55068/
[10:43] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: can you boot to a rescue disk that doesn't run gnome?  like the alternate install CD?
[10:44] <davi1> anyone?
[10:44] <mib_hoimx7d7> pajamian i have knoppix but would that really work?
[10:45] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: ummmm, it might, I don't know.  It would help if you're running the correct kernel at least.
[10:45] <sniff`> davi1 maybe they dont' support ubuntu
[10:45] <sniff`> did you  check?
[10:45] <stefano_> an update of flashplugin-nonfree just broke my flash player, it doesnt work anymore :O
[10:45] <davi1> sniff:its in the repos...
[10:45] <mib_hoimx7d7> the knoppic cd is a old kernel :(
[10:46] <stefano_> how hard can it be :(
[10:47] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: knoppix boots to a gui anyways, right?  you need something that will just boot to a console, no gui.
[10:47] <mib_hoimx7d7> yeah
[10:48] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: download either the alternate install cd or a rescue cd from somewhere and boot to that, in the console, then see if you can mount, chroot and startx
[10:50] <brinkergurl17> Hello All! Quick question, I installed NoMachine NX and its missing libXcomp.so.3 but its inside of /usr/NX/lib. How would I link the lib in the NX folder to /usr/lib or whever they need to go?
[10:50] <Flynsarmy> woohoo! flash on ubuntu
[10:51] <brinkergurl17> where ever*
[10:51] <pig0> any girls here?
[10:51] <brinkergurl17> yeah
[10:52] <brinkergurl17> pig0 maybe you know?
[10:52] <ardi> as
[10:53] <user11_011> is there any application which can be installed as a bulletin board for a small office and accessed via mail clients and so
 hello
 i have a tv card. the card is present in harddrake. but the v4l is deleted from /dev. can i reconfigure it again
[10:55] <Flynsarmy> Anyone here know how to use XMing?
[10:55] <arnath> why don't movieplayers such as totem etc have the ability to skip those annoying screens at the beginning of a dvd?
[10:56] <larson9999> harddrake? is this #mandrake now?
[10:56] <neko_> hi people
[10:56] <livenicely> file:///var/cache/apt/archives/libpq4_8.1.11-1pclos2007_i586.rpm
[10:56] <neko_> how do i zip a folder and output data to the terminal instead of a file
[10:56] <livenicely> file:///var/cache/apt/archives/motion_3.2.8-1pclos2007_i586.rpm
[10:56] <neko_> ??
[10:56] <livenicely> hello
 <livenicely> i have a tv card. the card is present in harddrake. but the v4l is deleted from /dev. can i reconfigure it again
[10:56] <livenicely> hello
 <livenicely> i have a tv card. the card is present in harddrake. but the v4l is deleted from /dev. can i reconfigure it again
[10:56] <neko_> when i do this "zip -r - somefolder/"
[10:57] <neko_> it says that it is an invalid argument
[10:57] <Flynsarmy> neko: to zip a folder you don't need the / on the end do you?
[10:57] <neko_> same
[10:57] <neko_> issue
[10:58] <neko_> zip error: Invalid command arguments (cannot write zip file to terminal)
[10:58] <Flynsarmy> neko: zip -r <zipname> <folders/files>
[10:58] <livenicely> hello
[10:59] <neko_> okey so no way to output the data in the standard output instead of a file ?
[10:59] <pajamian> neko_: why do you want to write it to the terminal?
[10:59] <livenicely> tell me any linux command that i can use to know about my card tv card
[10:59] <pajamian> neko_: it will write to stdout, but it is refusing to write to the console
[10:59] <neko_> some on the fly generation of zip for some php script
[10:59] <neko_> okey
[10:59] <neko_> so it would work okey with my script
[10:59] <mib_hoimx7d7> i have to go to bed. i guess ill try to fix it tomorrow
[11:00] <pajamian> neko_: if you really want to write to hte console try: zip -r - foo | cat
[11:00] <pajamian> mib_hoimx7d7: goodnight and good luck
[11:00] <neko_> thank you pajamian
[11:00] <lollo> is there a way to skip the staring login ?
[11:00] <neko_> i figured it out
[11:00] <nemilar> lollo: yes
[11:00] <lollo> uhuhuh how can i do it ?
[11:00] <nemilar> lollo: system - administration - login window
[11:00] <lollo> yeeeee thx
[11:01] <pajamian> neko_: yw
[11:01] <lollo> nemilar then security - automatic acces ?
[11:02] <livenicely>  tell me any linux command that i can use to know about my card tv card
[11:02] <pajamian> livenicely: lspci
[11:02] <mania90> hi
[11:02] <mania90> wich you mean with "Adobe Flash has been fixed" of Topic
[11:02] <mania90> ?
[11:03] <lollo> ok i'll try
[11:03] <pajamian> mania90: not fixed, unfortunately
[11:03] <Decco> ati x1600 and ubuntu.. anyone fixed that +
[11:03] <mania90> also remiove it of topic pajamian:
[11:04] <pajamian> mania90: I can't, only an op can
[11:04] <nemilar> livenicely: You want to find out what type of card you have?
[11:04] <edw> testing
[11:05] <pajamian> edw: it works
[11:05] <nemilar> !pk | livenicely (you might have an easier time there)
[11:05] <lollo> stion, and a way to skip the password everytime i do spacial operation like installing programs ?
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <nemilar> oh.
[11:05] <lollo> the last question*
[11:05] <pajamian> lollo: it's not recommended to do that
[11:06] <lollo> uhm why ? it's for my security ?
[11:06] <pajamian> lollo: that password keeps an attacker from gaining root
[11:06] <nemilar> lollo: that's there for your own protection
[11:06] <nemilar> lollo: The next version of Ubuntu, 8.04, due out April, will let you set options like that.. for now it's required though
[11:06] <lollo> uh ok, it's a sort of my antivirus in ubuntu .. ?
[11:06] <edw> pajamian: thanks. i wish i could say the same about my wifi
[11:07] <lollo> great !
[11:07] <pajamian> lollo: it is possible by modifying /etc/sudoers, but I really don't recommend it.
[11:07] <nemilar> lollo: It prevents a program from modifying your system without your permission
[11:07] <lollo> no i'll not do it !!!! you've the password to insert too ?
[11:08] <lollo> or u disabled that ?
[11:08] <nemilar> yeah, I think almost everyone here leaves it enabled, lollo
[11:08] <pajamian> lollo: I don't know what you mean by: you've the password to insert too ?
[11:08] <Jadd76> Am I the only person who can't access ubuntu.com ?
[11:08] <livenicely> my tv card is present in hardware list but first tvtime was ok now i have checked my /dev. there is not any v4l folder. i dont know how it removed
[11:08] <pajamian> Jadd76: works for me
[11:09] <sniff`> Jadd76 guess so, i can
[11:09] <Roy> There is a particular application from a wine installation which I would like to remove. I've tried everything from typing 'uninstaller' in a terminal, to running uninstall programs directly via wine but with no success. How can I remove it?
[11:09] <lollo> paj i meant .. uhm .. you've to write your password when u do special stuffs ..
[11:09] <nemilar> Roy: run the program's uninstaller from within wine
[11:09] <brinkergurl17> Hello All! Quick question, I installed NoMachine NX and its missing libXcomp.so.3 but its inside of /usr/NX/lib. I linked libXcomp.so.3 to /usr/lib but when i ldd nxssh i still get libXcomp.so.3 not found anybody know how to fix this?
[11:09] <lollo> however, this is a sort of antivirus ... right ?
[11:09] <pajamian> lollo: I have my password memorized, but it's not a bad thing to have to write it down.
[11:09] <Jadd76> Strange, I can't even ping it
[11:10] <Flynsarmy> Anyone here know how to use XMing?
[11:10] <Roy> nemilar: I tried that but it didn't work.
[11:10] <lollo> however, this is a sort of antivirus ... right ? --- the only antivirus - firewall in ubuntu
[11:10] <pajamian> lollo: it's one measure that can help to keep a virus from gaining control of your computer.
[11:11] <pajamian> lollo: it is not anti-virus, though.
[11:11] <nemilar> Roy: what happened when you tried it?
[11:11] <lollo> ok, and ... there are other misures to keep me safe from viruses ?
[11:11] <nemilar> brinkergurl17: did you run "ldconfig" after you symlinked the files?
[11:12] <lollo> like an integrated firewall or similar ...
[11:12] <Roy> nemilar: I saw a graphical interface much to the like of Windows and I was prompted to remove it. After closing the graphical interface, I saw that the application is still there.
[11:12] <mahi> hi to all why this error is comint after reboot ..:i am getting error in restarting xorg as I810(0): Monitor 2 cannot be specified on single pipe devices
[11:12] <pajamian> brinkergurl17: you can try this command: sudo ln -s /usr/NX/lib/* /usr/lib/
[11:12] <Paki_m_bored_in_> some body gave me a link to fix the flash player update problem , i lost it, could some one give it again
[11:12] <nemilar> !flash | Paki_m_bored_in_
[11:12] <ubotu> Paki_m_bored_in_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:12] <Paki_m_bored_in_> thanx
[11:12] <nemilar> np
[11:13] <asdrubal> deluge is a sweet torrent downloader
[11:13] <nemilar> yes, yes it is asdrubal
[11:13] <asdrubal> It's my new favorite. Used to be ktorrent
[11:13] <lollo> HOWEVER , thx very much you're my angels YEEEE !!!!!!
[11:13] <asdrubal> azureus is just too bloated
[11:13] <asdrubal> ktorrent doesn't support random ports
[11:13] <nemilar> asdrubal: in the next version of Ubuntu, Transmission will be the default torrent program.. if you haven't looked at it, you might want to check it out
[11:14] <brinkergurl17> ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/lib/libz.so.1' to `/usr/NX/lib/libz.so.1': File exists  got this on all of them
[11:14] <asdrubal> transmission has very few features, nemilar
[11:14] <asdrubal> so I don't like it
[11:14] <pajamian> Roy: I usually maintain a seperate .wine directory for each windoze app I install that way removal is as easy as removing the .wine directory and works for the most stubborn apps.
[11:14] <nemilar> asdrubal: yes, I know... I don't love it, for the same reason
[11:14] <asdrubal> nemilar, forced encryption, random ports, blocklists
[11:14] <nemilar> brinkergurl17: did you run ldconfig ?
[11:14] <asdrubal> that are things I want in a torrent client
[11:14] <Milamber> hello ubuntu people
[11:15] <brinkergurl17> thanks nemilar reading about it now
[11:15] <nemilar> asdrubal: Deluge can get very CPU-heavy on large torrents when they go very fast
[11:15] <asdrubal> nemilar, interesting.
[11:15] <Roy> pajamian: That's a great idea, I'll try it next time. But what do I do to remove that stubborn application now?
[11:15] <nemilar> brinkergurl17: after you add a library by hand, you have to run ldconfig to let the system know about it, is all
[11:15] <brinkergurl17> oh
[11:16] <pajamian> lollo: the best measure to avoid viruses is to keep your system up to date, just run the updates when prompted.  There are also anti-virus programs for Linux (such as clamav) but I haven't ever had need for one.
[11:16] <nemilar> brinkergurl17: you can also add additional directories (if you wanted to add /usr/NX/lib instead of creating symlinks, for example) to search for libraries in /etc/ld.so.conf
[11:16] <pajamian> Roy: you may be stuck with just re-installing all your other windows apps into seperate .wine directories and deleting this one.
[11:16] <brinkergurl17> oh cool
[11:16] <nemilar> pajamian: most of the AV programs for Linux ( don't know about the one you mentioned ) just detect Windows viruses, so you don't spread them unknowingly to others
[11:17] <pajamian> nemilar: true.
[11:17] <Milamber> i'm having some trouble installing ubuntu
[11:17] <brinkergurl17> thats probably easier in the future then right?
[11:17] <pajamian> I really have yet to hear of a linux virus.
[11:17] <nemilar> brinkergurl17: yeah probably
[11:17] <_dml> Milamber: whatsup?
[11:17] <nemilar> pajamian: there have been some proof-of-concept viruses, but there are no known viruses for linux in the wild
[11:17] <Roy> pajamian: separate .wine directory as in not within the program files?
[11:17] <Milamber> my machine reboots before it gets to the graphical interface
[11:18] <Vasilii> I need to change language on my OzOS (e17) setup, how do I run "Language Selector" by command, which command is it to open up that program?
[11:18] <pajamian> Roy: the program files are under .wine/drive_c
[11:18] <balor> I've just installed  evolution-data-server-dbg. Where does it put the debug libraries?
[11:18] <_dml> Milamber: have you tried booting into recovery ( single user ) mode ?
[11:18] <pajamian> Roy: I'll explain...
[11:18] <Roy> Sure, thank you :)
[11:18] <Milamber> _dml: its not installed yet
[11:18] <balor> d'oh...just found it
[11:19] <pajamian> Roy:  I usually do something like this when installing a wine app...
[11:19] <_dml> Milamber: oh . bugger ...
[11:19] <_dml> the installer is rebooting ?
[11:19] <pajamian> Roy: mkdir ~/fooapp
[11:19] <Milamber> i boot from the CD, select "Start or install Ubuntu" and moments later my machine reboots
[11:19] <_dml> before it gets to graphical ?
[11:19] <Milamber> yeah
[11:19] <pajamian> Roy: WINEPREFIX=~/fooapp/wine wineprefixcreate
[11:19] <_dml> um that sucks
[11:19] <nemilar> haha _dml
[11:19] <student_> hello
[11:20] <_dml> Milamber :  what kinda hardware is it ?
[11:20] <pajamian> Roy: WINEPREFIX=~/fooapp/wine wine fooinstall.exe
[11:20] <nemilar> sup student_
[11:20] <_dml> ie especially new or old ?
[11:20] <Milamber> very new
[11:20] <_dml> hmm
[11:20] <Milamber> got it this week
[11:20] <_dml> maybe its *too* new ...
[11:20] <_dml> ;)
[11:20] <Milamber> :)
[11:20] <_dml> have you tried another flavour of linux ?
[11:20] <pajamian> Roy: then after the install I would run with: WINEPREFIX=~/fooapp/wine wine 'C:\Program Files\foo\foo.exe'
[11:21] <_dml> or, is there a non-X install mode?
[11:21] <Roy> Oh!
[11:21] <Aquahallic> Milamber: is this trying to install ubuntu that it just reboots??
[11:21] <zetheroo> vmware is just not workin under Ubuntu 7.10
[11:21] <Milamber> i haven't tried that yet
[11:21] <pajamian> Roy: then if I want to remove it, I just remove the ~/fooapp directory
[11:21] <_dml> it's prolly barfing on autodetecting your hardware for X
[11:21] <Milamber> yes Aquahallic
[11:21] <pajamian> Roy: rm -rf ~/fooapp
[11:21] <Milamber> could be
[11:21] <Roy> Hmmm
[11:21] <Milamber> i'm using SLI
[11:21] <mahi> hi  i am facing error (EE) I810(0): Monitor 2 cannot be specified on single pipe devices
[11:21] <_dml> so if you can install it text-only
[11:21] <_dml> then later get X working at your leisure ..
[11:21] <nemilar> zetheroo: works over here..
[11:21] <pajamian> brb
[11:21] <Aquahallic> if it's a new machine... check to see if you can drop the sata controller into compatibility mode.. that kicked me once..:)
[11:21] <Roy> Hb
[11:22] <nemilar> mahi: fresh install?
[11:22] <Milamber> ahh, thx, will give that a shot as well Aquahallic
[11:22] <mahi> nemilar s
[11:22] <Milamber> its an nforce 780i motherboard
[11:22] <Milamber> so maybe thats the issue
[11:23] <_dml>  yeah, its worth googling Ubuntu + each bit of hardware ..
[11:23] <nemilar> mahi: ?
[11:23] <_dml> well the interesting bits
[11:23] <Aquahallic> might have a brand new sata controller or something that the installer can't detect
[11:23] <nemilar> mahi: pastebin your xorg.conf file
[11:23] <mahi> nemilar:
[11:23] <schoash> in my /proc/acpi/GFX0/DD02/brightness i have 2 lines. How can I cahnge the value in the second line which says current: 0?
[11:24] <schoash> wanna change it to 50
[11:24] <nemilar> mahi: ?
[11:25] <mahi> nemilar:http://pastebin.com/m36a10942
[11:26] <Paki_m_bored_in_> Hi all i m trying to install flash player manually but its not accepting the mozilla installatin directory as /usr/lib/mozilla ??
[11:26] <wuya> hehe
[11:26] <nemilar> mahi: is it a duel-head card or single?
[11:26] <wuya> ´ó¼Ò¶¼²»Ëµ»°
[11:27] <pajamian> Paki_m_bored_in_: /usr/lib/firefox
[11:27] <nemilar>  Paki_m_bored_in_ you are not root
[11:27] <mahi> nemilar:how to check?
[11:27] <Paki_m_bored_in_> well i ran the script using sudo i think
[11:27] <wuya> su -
[11:27] <nemilar> mahi: do you have one video output or two?
[11:28] <Paki_m_bored_in_> nemilar: i used sudo to run the script
[11:28] <pajamian> Paki_m_bored_in_: use sudo and /usr/lib/firefox
[11:28] <nemilar> Paki_m_bored_in_: oh.  pajamian has some ideas then
[11:28] <pajamian> I've isntalled it a few times and that always works for me
[11:29] <Paki_m_bored_in_> thanx
[11:29] <pajamian> ...just installed it again today in fact, when the flash-installer update decided to break it on me, heh
[11:29] <mahi> nemilar: i am using IBM thinkfinger..
[11:29] <frost0> Is it okay for me to run ubuntu w/ less than a gig of storage left?
[11:29] <frost0> like 850mb ?
[11:30] <frost0> it's all i have :(
[11:30] <mahi> nemilar:Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller
[11:30] <frost0> not install*
[11:31] <_dml> frost0: how much space is USED .. ? and what filesystem are you using?
[11:31] <pawan> hi
[11:31] <supershort> hi
[11:31] <frost0> _dml, i've used about 18gb....and not sure which filesystem :(
[11:31] <_dml> frost0: type ` mount `
[11:31] <supershort> you know the thing on the bottom that shows ur open windows
[11:31] <nemilar> frost0: you should be able to run until you have nothing left... but things start to act strange at the very end
[11:32] <supershort> how do i get that back
[11:32] <_dml> frost0: whats it say about \ ?
[11:32] <supershort> i accidently closed it
[11:32] <_dml> , even ..
[11:32] <nemilar> supershort: right click, add to panel
[11:32] <nemilar> supershort: right click on the panel, that is, then add to panel
[11:32] <nemilar> supershort: I think it's called the Window Selector
[11:32] <nemilar> supershort: might be the window list, though
[11:32] <frost0> _dml, command not found?
[11:33] <_dml> frost0: its usually a bad idea to have less than 10-20 % free space because fragmentation increases nonlinearly as free space decreases
[11:33] <_dml> but all it will do is frag up a touch
[11:33] <neko_> hi again
[11:33] <_dml> the shit only really hits the fan if you run out ;)
[11:33] <neko_> another little zip question
[11:34] <nemilar> !ohmy | _dml
[11:34] <ubotu> _dml: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[11:34] <nemilar> ;)
[11:34] <frost0> _dml, i'm not planning on using anymore space....i just cleaned up....and no some apps are runing oddly :(
[11:34] <qzio> hmm, if to .deb files has dependence of each other how the hell do i install them?
[11:34] <supershort> um
[11:34] <supershort> where do i rightclick to add to panel
[11:34] <neko_> if i zip a folder with this kind of path : "zip -r stuff.zip /home/someone/somefolder/"
[11:34] <supershort> there nothing on bottom
[11:34] <nemilar> supershort: anywhere on the panel. If you lost your lower panel, right-click on the upper panel and select "New panel"
[11:34] <neko_> the zip file contain the whole path
[11:34] <frost0> _dml, what is the command to check my hd space again?
[11:34] <_dml> frost0: qzio : at the same time ?
[11:34] <_dml> frost0: df -h
[11:34] <nemilar> frost0: df -h
[11:35] <nemilar> qzio: if you use the gdebi installer it will take care of the dependencies for you
[11:36] <frost0> _dml, http://pastebin.com/d1965b636
[11:36] <_dml> hmm
[11:36] <qzio> nemilar: ah thats a neat program, ill remember it thanks! but i think i solved my problem with doing dpkg -i *.deb :) :)
[11:36] <nemilar> qzio: cool cool
[11:37] <frost0> _dml, ? :)
[11:37] <g-Z|NiceShot-> -s irc.quakenet.org
[11:37] <_dml> frost0: yeah you dont have much free do you ;)
[11:37] <nemilar> I've run linux on much smaller drives, though :)
[11:37] <frost0> _dml, it's actually a nice computer...just a tiny hd..
[11:37] <_dml> frost0: just don't let /tmp or /var/log fill up :-0
[11:37] <_dml> since you dont have them on isolated partitions
[11:37] <frost0> _dml, i did yesterday..
[11:38] <wuya> hehe
[11:38] <frost0> _dml, it was bad...
[11:38] <_dml> yeah
[11:38] <_dml> bad ;)
[11:38] <g-Z|NiceShot-> How i get in a Quakenet server with xchat?
[11:38] <frost0> _dml, may that be why things were getting messed up?
[11:38] <_dml> could be ..
[11:38] <nemilar> g-Z|NiceShot-: /server server.to.join.net
[11:38] <frost0> _dml, but would the damage be permanent?
[11:38] <g-Z|NiceShot-> ok
[11:38] <_dml> depends what happened ...
[11:38] <_dml> ie what it was in the middle of writing
[11:38] <frost0> _dml, gnome-rdp says error reading database
[11:38] <_dml> yeah databases REALLY dont like it
[11:38] <nemilar> lol, oops
[11:39] <frost0> _dml, cant i just reinstall...i tried...but same error :(
[11:39] <_dml> frost0: you might need to purge & reinstall
[11:39] <_dml> since a reinstall wont hose your local data / conf
[11:39] <frost0> _dml, howso? :)
[11:40] <_dml> aptitude purge appname
[11:40] <frost0> _dml, i'm really contemplating removing sauerbraten for space..
[11:41] <_dml> frost0: never heard of it .. i'm installing it ;)
[11:41] <frost0> _dml, it's sweet...but about 900mb.
[11:41] <_dml> hmm only wants 206Mb for me
[11:41] <vlazar> hey
[11:42] <frost0> _dml, assassin edition?
[11:42] <vlazar> how is the user administration app package called?
[11:42] <frost0> _dml, wait.....okay..maybe delete my podcasts :)
[11:42] <frost0> _dml, tons of them...
[11:43] <frost0> _dml, is it wise to truecrypt your hard drive?........i have nothing to hid but....it sounds cool.. ..
[11:43] <frost0> _dml, reading about it on downloadsquad.com
[11:44] <_dml> frost0: not unless you need to ... a surprising number of people forget their passwords ...
[11:44] <tdn> How can a device (partition) exist in fdisk -l but not in /dev? I am trying to mount a partition from an USB harddisk enclosure, but this is what happens: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/paste/P1062.html
[11:44] <_dml> frost0: whats assassin edition ?
[11:44] <frost0> _dml, okay....uh....its the newest release i guess.
[11:44] <frost0> _dml, its nice...
[11:45] <frost0> _dml, according to sauerbraten.org
[11:45] <frost0> _dml, okay the package that is giving me trouble is gnome-rdp...
[11:45] <frost0> _dml, how do i purge and reinstall that?
[11:45] <pawan> hi
[11:46] <c4fe> hi
[11:46] <_dml> frost0: aptitude purge gnome-rdp; aptitude install gnome-rdp
[11:46] <frost0> _dml, will this give me a menu item?
[11:46] <frost0> _dml, if i don't use add/remove?
[11:46] <_dml> frost0: i think so
[11:47] <_dml> frost0: the gnome add/remove is just a gtk front end for aptitude / synaptic / apt / dpkg
[11:47] <_dml> saerkraut looks nice
[11:47] <frost0> _dml, its saying permission denied..
[11:47] <_dml> bung a sudo on the front
[11:48] <frost0> _dml, i did .... :(
[11:48] <_dml> sudo aptitude ...
[11:48] <_dml> oh ? ]
[11:48] <_dml> youre not in sudoers then ..
[11:48] <supersh> hi all
[11:48] <_dml> um
[11:48] <frost0> _dml, doh!..i had synaptic open...
[11:48] <_dml> frost0: it asked you for your password ?
[11:48] <mahi> nemilar:?
[11:48] <_dml> whats sudo ls do ?
[11:48] <_dml> i thought sudo was in Ubuntu by default ...
[11:48] <supersh> how can i open pidgin, it says opening but it never does
[11:49] <pawan> hi all
[11:49] <frost0> _dml, think i got it..
[11:49] <mahi> nemilar:i amnot getting any solution for  my error
[11:49] <frost0> _dml, uh how much room does truecrypt take up?
[11:49] <_dml> dude
[11:49] <frost0> _dml, and do i have that room :)
[11:49] <_dml> dont crypt your drive !
[11:49] <c4fe> ##security
[11:49] <ben_underscore> supersh: do you get any errors?
[11:49] <frost0> _dml, i won't but, i like to try new things on this box :)
[11:49] <_dml> frost0: its not going to give you anything
[11:49] <supersh> no
[11:49] <frost0> okay..i won't :)
[11:50] <_dml> actually i've been meaning to crypt my macbook ... time to do it now ..
[11:50] <ben_underscore> supersh: try opening it from the command line and see if you get any errors
[11:50] <frost0> _dml, http://pastebin.com/d5aad658
[11:50] <frost0> _dml, that is my error with sudo
[11:50] <UcKen> Might anyone in here have any experience with synchronizing Nokia E series phones with Evolution over Bluetooth using multisync? :)
[11:50] <supersh> wat do i type
[11:51] <jufjurieuih> How do I get XChat to tell me how many ms my lag is?
[11:51] <ben_underscore> supersh: open up terminal and type "pidgin" - without the quotes
[11:51] <_dml> frost0: % sudo aptitude purge wossname ;
[11:52] <_dml> frost0: thats an aptitude error not a sudo error ..
[11:52] <supersh> nothin
[11:52] <user11_011> is there any application which can be installed as a bulletin board for a small office and accessed via mail clients and so
[11:52] <moad> hello mates
[11:52] <moad> i have got that problem again after fixing it 2 months ago
[11:52] <jufjurieuih> Hmm I want to know how my lag time is.
[11:53] <ben_underscore> supersh: no window, nothing like that? what about an icon in your top menu/toolbar
[11:53] <moad> my firefox stops working after 10-15 minutes
[11:53] <brinkergurl17> anyone know much about NX?
[11:53] <moad> but Pidgin and other IM clients stillw ork
[11:53] <frost0> _dml, same problem :)
[11:53] <mahi>  i am getting error in restarting xserver  as I810(0): Monitor 2 cannot be specified on single pipe devices
[11:53] <brinkergurl17> it keeps connecting me to local host although server.cfg and node.cfg point to my router ip
[11:53] <UcKen> Anyone got some experience with multisync and have a minute or two to spare?
[11:53] <NET||abuse> Hey guys.. having some confusion with my ipod here (oldest ipod video model) i try to delete some podcasts off it with rythmbox, the only option is Move to Trash, and then i load up new podcasts, then if i eject and plugout, then replugin, the old podcasts and new podcasts are both on it, nothing was removed
[11:53] <frost0> _dml, whats this new code?
[11:53] <brinkergurl17> mahi, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:53] <frost0> _dml, wossname?
[11:54] <supersh> hmm
[11:54] <NET||abuse> how do i empty the trash on this thing?
[11:54] <wuya> frost0 hehe
[11:54] <brinkergurl17> pick simple for montior and choose the "
[11:54] <supersh> ill try rebooting
[11:54] <frost0> wuya, i this an insult :)
[11:54] <_dml> frost0: i couldnt remember the name of your package
[11:54] <mahi> brinkergurl17:after reconfiguring it is working but once againt next restart it is giving same error
[11:54] <frost0> _dml, % sudo aptitude purge gnome-rdp ;
[11:55] <frost0> _dml, that's the code?
[11:55] <_dml> yeah
[11:55] <_dml> that is
[11:55] <_dml> without the % ;)
[11:55] <brinkergurl17> got me there ^_^
[11:55] <_dml> its a convention .. :)
[11:55] <jufjurieuih> Howcome I can't configure GyachE to connect with socks4/5 proxies?
[11:56] <frost0> _dml, its removing...w00t
[11:56] <frost0> _dml, sorry easily excited at this early hour :)
[11:56] <moad> anyone knows what makes firefox stop working after 10-15 minutes ?
[11:56] <krim> moad: Maybe you have some extensions that are messing things up?
[11:56] <_dml> frost0: also try running aptitude with just: sudo aptitude
[11:57] <_dml> gives you the nice curses interface
[11:57] <_dml> better than that gnome thing ;)
[11:58] <dbgi> would anyone know why that when i type into xchat here, my computer makes a beeping noise with every letter i type..
[11:58] <jufjurieuih> Haha, that would be so annoying.
[11:58] <dbgi> it is
[11:58] <jufjurieuih> I would actually enjoy it if it would make a typing sound that sounded like an old type writer.
[11:58] <mahi> brinkergurl17:what i have to do so that i dont require to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[11:58] <dbgi> this is just a beeping noise, sucks
[11:58] <jufjurieuih> I have wanted to do that but I can't find anything that will.
[11:59] <df7> i cant find on jabber.org where i can setup an account
[11:59] <jufjurieuih> Does it do it with just XChat?
[11:59] <LukeLC> I believe pidgin has an option to make any sound you want when you type
[11:59] <jufjurieuih> Really? OMG I gotta check this out brb.
[11:59] <LukeLC> you'd have to find the file for 'old typewriter' though
[12:00] <brinkergurl17> mahi i donno thats beyond me
[12:00] <xcucumber> hi! i was trying to get video to work in firefox, and did sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer, and it installed, but when i open firefox, it still says i need a plugin, any help welcome, thanks!
[12:00] <dbgi> jufjurieuih,  yea its only xchat, just started tonight
[12:00] <frost0> _dml, same error
[12:00] <dbgi> pidgin works fine
[12:00] <jufjurieuih> I'm looking for it in preferences.
[12:00] <user11_011> i am unable to recieve notifications on buddy login on pidgin > why?
[12:00] <jufjurieuih> Can't seem to find it.
[12:01] <LukeLC> oh sorry =(
[12:01] <jufjurieuih> Have you seen this feature before?
[12:01] <LukeLC> Yeah, I can't remember where though
[12:01] <pawan> hi
[12:01] <pajamian> xcucumber: when you clicked to install the plugin what plugin did it say you needed?
[12:01] <LukeLC> it's called keystrokes
[12:01] <LukeLC> or something like that
[12:02]  * wuya slaps pawan around a bit with a large trout
[12:02] <wuya> hehe
[12:02] <frost0> _dml, potty break?
[12:02] <wuya> pawan hi,
[12:02] <_dml> nod
[12:02] <xcucumber> lemme check
[12:02] <df7> left-click menu entries in network-manager dissapear right after fresh ubuntu install, do you know how to return them back?
[12:02] <jufjurieuih> Yeah under sound events it is not listed. Why would they remove such an awesome feature.
[12:02] <frost0> _dml, same error