[00:00] <valros> yes i know but it says the directory doesnt exist
[00:00] <Reflex> ok
[00:00] <valros> i just didnt want to put my name up
[00:00] <damaltor> valros: go into /home and type ls
[00:00] <IdleOne> unop_, I dont understand it either
[00:00] <Mark_> soundray, Says no restricted drivers are needed when I try what you said
[00:00] <soundray> valros: does 'cd /home/$USER' work?
[00:00] <Mark_> zx-cell, did you use restricted drivers?
  course
[00:01] <unop_> valros, simply typing 'cd' should do
[00:01] <nikitis> kitche, that needs to be changed.  Or there needs to be an option to allow for manual installation of drivers to work with ubuntu-desktop effects
[00:01] <Mark_> zx-cell, hmm when I try that in Administration, it says I don't need any
[00:01] <valros> ok i got it
  otherwise you yust cant enable other visual effects
[00:01] <valros> i think
[00:01] <soundray> Mark_: in that case I would recommend that you stick with what you've got and try the Restricted... method again in hardy once it's been released and you've upgraded
[00:01] <kitche> nikitis: well here it's works fine with manual drivers
[00:01] <brainiac8008> i have an nvidia geforce 6150se and i'm running a 7.10 livecd.  i enabled the nvidia-glx-new driver. When i restarted x, i went into low graphics mode, so i restarted, once again running on the livecd.  any ideas?
[00:01] <nikitis> kitche, it was working for me, then out of the blue it just died, and went to metacity
[00:02] <Mark_> soundray, roger that, I can enable effects, it's just a bit slow and heavy on cpu for some reason
[00:02] <nikitis> kitche, now i have to type compiz --replace
[00:02] <nikitis> kitche, it works when I do that
[00:02] <nikitis> kitche, but that's ghetto.
[00:02] <joebob777as7> nikitis just put that in your sessions startup
[00:02] <nikitis> joebob777as7,  i did, but now it takes longer to load
[00:02] <kitche> nikitis: yep sounds like an update might have just screwed something up when you login or your logging in under a different session
[00:02] <joebob777as7> yeah... upgrade to hardy..
[00:03] <nikitis> is hardy 8.??
[00:03] <soundray> Mark_: you probably do need the proprietary driver to make it work better, but if it's not offered, the procedure is a bit more involved
[00:03] <mrsolo> hardy is still beta right?
[00:03] <soundray> !ati | Mark_
[00:03] <Mark_> soundray, yup, i'm reading that now, thx
[00:03] <cataldus3d> please some help meeee
[00:03] <joebob777as7> nikitis yes and it's LTS version so it's pretty stable already
[00:03] <soundray> mrsolo: those who can read the topic know
[00:03] <nikitis> LTS?
[00:03] <cataldus3d> i click on set disklabel in gparted
[00:03] <joebob777as7> Long Term Support version
[00:04] <Mark_> soundray, just hope I don't hose anything hehehe
[00:04] <nikitis> can i do dist-upgrade
[00:04] <joebob777as7> final comes out next month (april)
[00:04] <joebob777as7> nikitis yes
[00:04] <Mark_> I'm be needing some fried chicken, got a hankering, bbl
[00:04] <nikitis> joebob777as7,  thanks
[00:04] <joebob777as7> np nikitis
[00:05] <zx-cell> can someone help me out with dhcp3-server troubleshooting ?
[00:05] <abrock> Need help modifying GRUB. WIndows XP is on Master IDE Channel 1. Ubuntu is on Sata Channel 1. I have been dual-booting this way fine. I now have another IDE device as slave on Master IDE Channel 1. I now get Grub Error 17. How do I fix this?
[00:05] <sidis406> evening ppl. :)
[00:05] <brainiac8008> hey guys, i have an nvidia geforce 6150se and i'm running a 7.10 livecd.  i want to use compiz, so i enabled the nvidia-glx-new driver. When i restarted x, i went into low graphics mode, so i restarted my computer, once again running on the livecd.  any ideas?
[00:05] <zx-cell> pls can someone help me out with dhcp3-server troubleshooting ?
[00:06] <joebob777as7> abrock sud apt-get install qgrubeditor
[00:06] <Animortis> I'm having some trouble with setting up a file share between windows xp and Ubuntu, with Ubuntu gutsy serving. Anyone willing to listen?
[00:06] <joebob777as7> abrock should help a bit
[00:06] <Reflex> I have samba setup whats my intial steps as far as networking my winxp box with my ubuntu box ?
[00:06] <Animortis> I just want to throw my technique out and if I screwed up someome tell me what.
[00:06] <Animortis> I did wrong*
[00:06] <kitche> Animortis: just say what the problem is and someone will anwser if they know
[00:06] <valros> kismet configurer gives me this error, C compiler cannot create executables, is it trying to create a windows executable?
[00:07] <zx-cell>  can someone help me out with dhcp3-server troubleshooting ?
[00:07] <zx-cell>  ... hoping :D
[00:07] <joebob777as7> lol valros no
[00:07] <kitche> valros: no you just need to install build-essential
[00:08] <valros> best way to do that?
[00:08] <abrock> joebob777as7: I get message  Couldn't find package qgrubeditor
[00:08] <brainiac8008> hey guys, i have an nvidia geforce 6150se and i'm running a 7.10 livecd.  i want to use compiz, so i enabled the nvidia-glx-new driver. When i restarted x, i went into low graphics mode, so i restarted my computer, once again running on the livecd.  any ideas? ANYONE???
[00:08] <Animortis> I installed Samba and started it through the cli. I made a desktop user and then made a folder in its home folder called 'share' and gave it ownership of the folder and 775 permissions. I then added the folder to System-Administration-Shared folders and added my smb workgroup name in. I restarted Ubuntu. The xp laptop I'm serving sees the Ubuntu PC but says I do not have permissions to log in.
[00:08] <Animortis> Oh
[00:09] <Animortis> I also did an smbpasswd -a to that desktop user
[00:09] <Animortis> That's important
[00:09] <valros> kitche, best way to install build-essential?
[00:09] <joebob777as7> abrock sorry follow this guide: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/qgrubeditor-a-visual-grub-configuration-editor.html
[00:09] <tarelerulz> When your compiling alsa what is the part you really need alsa-driver , alsa-lib and alsa-utils
[00:09] <zx-cell>  can someone  pls help me out with dhcp3-server troubleshooting ?
[00:09] <kitche> valros: either sudo apt-get install or using synaptics
[00:09] <Sinistrad> Animortis, can you access it locally using smbclient or something like that?
[00:10] <Copter> I change resolution to 1024x768 on my 17" CRT ( Radeon X1950 Pro), I get blackScreen. I installed envy, I did the dpkg-reconfigure, I donno what else to do, HELP MEH!
[00:10] <Copter> I Cant*
[00:10] <abrock> joebob777as7: Ok, will give it a try. Thanks.
[00:10] <Animortis> Sinistrad, I am not familiar with smbclient. I did this on another install, I thought, and it worked fine...
[00:10] <joebob777as7> abrock it's in a hardy+ only repositories
[00:10] <joebob777as7> np abrock
[00:10] <goob> can anyone recommend a good IM client?
[00:11] <kitche> goob: umm for what?
[00:11] <zx-cell> could someone help me out with dhcp3-server troubleshooting  pls ...  i know its easy, but this seems like an bug to me or something?
[00:11] <linnux> gaim
[00:11] <tarelerulz> Pidgin is the best for just IM
[00:11] <unop_> now known as pidgin
[00:11] <kitche> zx-cell: just state what the problem is and someone will answer if they knos
[00:11] <Sinistrad> Animortis, smbclient is a command-line samba client, you can do something like smbclient -U username //localhost/sharename from the machine samba is running on.  If you can't access the share that way, it will rule out XP as the culprit. (if you can access, it doesn't rule out your server as the culprit)
[00:11] <kitche> know*
[00:11] <tarelerulz> If you want to go the sip way there a lot
[00:12] <linnux> ya gaim is pidgin only one u need to use
[00:12] <goob> i tried sudo aptitude install pidgin with no result
[00:12] <kitche> goob: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[00:12] <unop_> linnux, until you want to use things pidgin doesnt support :)
[00:12] <go> hi
[00:12] <goob> feisty
[00:12] <wenton5672> pidgin is great!
[00:13] <kitche> isn't pidgin installed by default goob
[00:13] <ubuntu_> installed heron onto an exterior drive.  it put grub into the mbr.  off of a live cd, i tried to fix grub with setup (hd0) to get back to the hard drive, , but "error while parsing number".  help appreciated.
[00:13] <wenton5672> it is on gutsy
[00:13] <unop_> ubuntu_, please take this to #ubuntu+1
[00:13] <kitche> ubuntu_: #ubuntu+1 for hardy sypport
[00:13] <linnux> unop ya
[00:13] <goob> oh my, yes it is there listed as Gaim!!
[00:13] <goob> oops!
[00:13] <tarelerulz> Who has try  Ubuntu 8.04 ?
[00:14] <goob> i tried hardy a little
[00:14] <unop_> tarelerulz, question to ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:14] <wenton5672> goob u will want to upgrade to the lastest version
[00:14] <soundray> tarelerulz: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[00:14] <UberDuper> How do you disable screen blanking on the console?
[00:14] <cataldus3d> helloooo
[00:14] <linnux> goob just to "wget 'addresshere.deb'
[00:14] <cataldus3d> someone knows about gparted???
[00:14] <UberDuper> Setting BLANK=0 in /etc/console-tools/config doesn't seem to have any impact.
[00:14] <goob> sudo aptitude upgrade gaim?
[00:14] <Animortis> Sinistrad, I accessed the share through smbclient fine and even made a folder to test my access privileges. What does that mean?
[00:14] <trey__> tarelerulz: i am downloading it... i am going to install it to my virtualbox
[00:14] <linnux> 'sudo dpkg  -i namehere.deb
[00:14] <wenton5672> yeh :)
[00:14] <zx-cell>  if i try to start / stop or restart dhcp3-server, i'm always getting the same response ..  errors from 9 to 22 ending with syntax error: "}" unexpected
[00:14] <Positronic> Can someone point me in the correct direction to get an automated repository created?
[00:14] <brainiac8008> hey guys, i have an nvidia geforce 6150se and i'm running a 7.10 livecd.  i want to use compiz, so i enabled the nvidia-glx-new driver. When i restarted x, i went into low graphics mode, so i restarted my computer, once again running on the livecd.  any ideas? ANYONE???
[00:15] <kitche> zx-cell: then your syntax is wrong for the config files for it
[00:15] <tarelerulz> I have read Kopete  the newest version it on Ubuntu 8.04 . It is one of the reason I would get it. I want to get into some voice chat
[00:15] <Sinistrad> Animortis, it means samba is serving your localhost correctly.  When you try to access from XP, are you sure you're entering both the username (case sensitive) and the password (case sensitive) correctly? (note: neither of those may be case sensitive for samba)
[00:15] <ubuntu_> it's not hardy, i run gutsy, now on a live cd.  trying to get the mbr back to what it was.
[00:15] <zx-cell> well i ve checked them, and they are all fine ...
[00:16] <kitche> zx-cell: you think theya re but obvisious they are not
[00:16] <Animortis> Sinistrad, I never get to it asking username and password. It simply gives an error message about the server being not accessable and not having permission.
[00:16] <Animortis> Maybe I need to reboot the laptop?
[00:16] <Copter> I cant change resolution to anything other than 1280x1024, (Specifically i want 1024x768) on my 17" CRT ( Radeon X1950 Pro), I get blackScreen. I installed envy, I did the dpkg-reconfigure, I donno what else to do, HELP MEH!
[00:16] <goob> anybody know the package name of the OSX kiba dock?
[00:16] <valros> im at a brick wall, cannot get kismet to get wifi working without build-essential, cannot get that without internet, cant find where to download the package
[00:16] <Sinistrad> Animortis, That's a problem ;(  Is your XP system patched?  Mine seem to ask for usernames/passwords....
[00:17] <soundray> !grub | ubuntu_: use the Recovering... instructions
[00:17] <Sinistrad> Is your samba server browseable in network neighborhood (or whatever they call it)
[00:17] <wenton> can someone tell me the command to install a .tar.gz file?
[00:17] <kitche> wenton: make or ./configure && make && make install
[00:17] <soundray> ubuntu_: hold on, the bot is AWOL
[00:17] <Animortis> Sinistrad, It is patched up. No, I can't browse it at all.
[00:18] <Ubotwo> ubuntu_: use the Recovering... instructions: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:18] <kitche> wenton: or if it's a binary you don't have to run any of those commands
[00:18] <Sinistrad> Animortis, I assume you've verified network connectivity?
[00:18] <wenton> ty kitche
 well gedit /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf   its just fine . .
[00:18] <Animortis> Sinistrad, It can get online, yes. And it SEES the server, it just refuses to open it.
[00:18] <goob> wenton: i think you can double click it to unpack locally and then sudo aptitude install /filepathhere
[00:19] <Sinistrad> Animortis, have you tried start->run-> \\<ip address>\sharename ?
[00:19] <c1x> what is gdmsetup ?
[00:19] <goob> anybody know the package name of the OSX kiba dock?
[00:19] <soundray> ubuntu_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[00:19] <kitche> c1x: configure application for gdm
[00:19] <user1> hi all, I was playing around with chaning the login screen themes and colors, I was able to change all the themes to a blue color fine, but i noticed after the login screen i still get the original ubuntu orangeybrown background for a few seconds before the desktop appears, Anyone know how i can remove/change the orange/brown
[00:20] <c1x> im having problems trying to install a boot screen :S new user
[00:21] <trey__> when i try to set appearance>visual effects to custom and i get: Desktop effects could not be enabled   i have an intergrated intel graphics card... help?
[00:21] <Animortis> Sinistrad, No? But I did "add a network place" and entered the server and share name like I did on Linux through smbclient and it doesn't see it.
[00:21] <Sinistrad> Animortis, have you tried using the server's ip address vs. the hostname?
[00:21] <soundray> trey__: when you run 'grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf', is there a line containing 'vesa'?
[00:23] <zx-sanji> hmm
[00:23] <jbettcher_> after i compile dev libraries is there a command to run to make sure they are available to applications i wish to compile
[00:24] <Animortis> Can you share a command to find my IP real fast?
[00:24] <kitche> jbettcher_: nope just compile
[00:24] <jbettcher_> hrm
[00:24] <Sinistrad> Animortis, ipconfig
[00:24] <soundray> Animortis: ifconfig
[00:24] <kitche> Animortis: got outside ip you can wget a page to grab it
[00:24] <Sinistrad> Animortis, erm, on the linux box: /sbin/ifconfig -a
[00:24] <Sinistrad> or leave out the -a
[00:24] <Silvanov> iwconfig
[00:25] <Sinistrad> Silvanov, does iwconfig show addresses?
[00:25] <valros> can someone help me get wifi working o nthis laptop
[00:25] <valros> im back to square one after 2 days
[00:25] <Animortis> Sinistrad, Success! But why...?
[00:25] <trey__> soundray: no i get this: http://www.pastebin.ca/965381
[00:25] <Sinistrad> Animortis, workgroup mismatch?
[00:25] <Animortis> Something windows did. Blarg bg'arg.
[00:26] <Sinistrad> Animortis, samba may not be configured to broadcast netbios names or something...this is outside my experience (I always use IPs out of habit...)
[00:26] <Rafabe> hiya
[00:26] <Sinistrad> Animortis, Just teach your users to access hosts by IP ;)
[00:26] <user1> Valeros I missed your wifi question (im a nebie, but would like to try and help")
[00:26] <Jeffreyf> Rafabe: just ask your question
[00:27] <Rafabe> I don't have access to my ubuntu desktop...does the Gnome Keyring let you import usernames/passwords? For example, from CSV, or XML, or maybe even Windows binaries like KeePass?
[00:27] <Animortis> Sinistrad, I don't know. I know I did exactly the same thing last time I set this up (I wrote down how) and it didn't do all this. Probably WIndows just being stupid.
[00:27] <valros> ubuntu just will not pickup my SSID at all
[00:27] <Rafabe> jeffrey: I was, but I like to say Hi first
[00:27] <soundray> trey__: looks okay, not sure why it won't do effects for you
[00:27] <user1> sounds like it picks up all other but yours
[00:27] <Sinistrad> Animortis, Windows is consistently stupid...Linux/ubuntu is much more inconsistent ;)
[00:27] <user1> LOL
[00:28] <valros> idk i cant see what it detects only tell it to look for something
[00:28] <user1> ahh, What program are you using to detect.see avaiable networks
[00:28] <Sinistrad> valros, does 'iwscan ap' say anything? (is that even the right syntax?)
[00:28] <Animortis> I get the feeling I'll try it out like two weeks from now and it'll work fine.
[00:28] <Sinistrad> Animortis, you're much more optimistic than I,.
[00:28] <trey__> soundray: :( nobody did elier either :(
[00:29] <valros> dont have a detect/see program
[00:29] <valros> iwscan ap isnt a command
[00:29] <DropKickMurpheys> Hi, i'm having some issues updating from my 64bit edition of 7.10  to the 8.04 beta using the alternate install cd
[00:29] <user1> Valeros when you do an IFconfig at the command line does it show the wireless card?
[00:29] <Sinistrad> frowns, valros
[00:29] <StevenX> Hey guys. Does anyone know an nzb downloader that does automatic unrars? I have heard of nzbperl, but I was wondering what else is out there.
[00:30] <Sinistrad> valros: 'iwlist ap'
[00:30] <valros> no list of access points on any
[00:30] <Animortis> Sinistrad, Appreciate it.
[00:30] <valros> could it be the router?
[00:30] <Sinistrad> Animortis, My pleasure.
[00:30] <zx-sanji> if i try to start / stop or restart dhcp3-server, i'm always getting the same response ..  errors from 9 to 22 ending with syntax error: "}" unexpected any one got an answer ... ?  or know the location pf config ?
[00:31] <Sinistrad> valros, define 'any'   What were the interface names it gave?
[00:31] <soundray> trey__: perhaps hardy will solve your problem, fingers crossed
[00:31] <valros> lo, eth0, wlan0
[00:31] <valros> wlan0 being the the internal 802.11b/g
[00:31] <Sinistrad> valrus: great, wlan0 is your wireless card, theoretically.
[00:32] <trey__> soundray: hardy!?!?!? oh buy... you mean the hardy thats STILL in beta? 8-\
[00:32] <kitche> zx-sanji: it tells you the name of the config file actually
[00:32] <Sinistrad> valrus, What does 'iwconfig wlan0' say?  does it show an essid? mode?  (don't paste the whole output)
[00:32] <valros> yes, and i had this working for a while
[00:32] <DropKickMurpheys> When i pop in my cd it wont come up with the update dialog and when i try alt-f2 and the gksu sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade, it doesn't seem to work either
[00:32] <soundray> trey__: why "still"? It's never been announced for anything sooner than April
[00:33] <valros> no ESSID but Mode:Managed
[00:33] <Sinistrad> valros: how are you trying to make it work? (which program? the little gnome toolbar applet thing?)
[00:33] <valros> yes
[00:33] <trey__> soundray: you mean th ubuntu distro? its in beta... isnt it?
[00:33] <Sinistrad> valros: should work ;)
[00:34] <soundray> trey__: yes
[00:34] <valros> yes it should, but it doesnt
[00:34] <Sinistrad> valros: try setting the essid manually: 'iwconfig wlan0 essid <whatever it is>'
[00:34] <Sinistrad> then 'ifup wlan0'
  well  if you change anything in etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf  it DOES NOT change a thing in the output ...
[00:34] <valros> after trying to connect to NETGEAR SSID for about a minute it stops
[00:34] <DropKickMurpheys> can someone attempt to help me update to 8.04 from 7.10 using the alternate install cd?
[00:34] <trey__> soundray: oh i knoow what you mean! you mean wait until it comes out?
[00:34] <DPic> does anybody know the max filesize for file uploaded to the ubuntu wiki?
[00:34] <Sinistrad> valros: so the gnome applet sees the netgear ESSID?
[00:34] <Sinistrad> valros: if so, ignore my previous suggestion
[00:34] <wenton> does compiz have a GUI apart from system>preferences>appearance>visual effects ?
[00:34] <valros>  no it doesnt
[00:35] <soundray> trey__: yes
[00:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !ccsm
[00:35] <cyclonuts> wenton: yes it does, it is compiz config settings manager.
[00:35] <Sinistrad> valros: try setting the essid manually
[00:35] <valros> gnome doesnt "see" anything, i cant get a list of available networks
[00:35] <kitche> Jack_Sparrow: bot has been dead for a while now :)
[00:35] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[00:35] <trey__> soundray: oh-well... i guess i will ask everybody else again... thanks for your help though!
[00:35] <valros> ive tried manual cofiguration, nothing, one more time though
[00:36] <wenton> cyclonuts- does this come installed with gutsy? or do u have to apt-get
[00:36] <cyclonuts> wenton: you need to install it. it is in the repositories.
[00:36] <soundray> trey__: try a /msg ubotu effects when the bot is back
[00:36] <valros> damnit, after closing the laptop screen(shuts off) the cursor doesnt load
[00:36] <j3kyll> where is the .trash of a usb device? how can i find it and "empty the trash"
[00:36] <wenton> ty
[00:36] <cyclonuts> wenton: I think you can just do sudo apt-get install compiz-config-settings-manager
[00:36] <Sinistrad> valros, if 'iwlist ap'  isn't showin anything, it means 1 of 3 things: 1) there aren't any APs in range 2) your stuff's broke 3) other
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> wenton,  sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:36] <mactaylor> !kde
[00:36] <wenton> ty :)
[00:37] <Sinistrad> valros, I'm just trying to isolate it
[00:37] <DropKickMurpheys> can someone attempt to help me update to 8.04 from 7.10 using the alternate install cd?
[00:37] <trey__> soundray: i will... why though?
[00:37] <soundray> j3kyll: it's normally called .Trash in the root directory of the advice
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> j3kyll, It will be on the usb  partition .Trash-yourloginname
[00:37] <soundray> trey__: there is a help factoid for effects
[00:37] <j3kyll> soundray: ill try finding it there thanks
[00:37] <webtoe> DropKickMurpheys: Why are you trying to do it from the alternate .iso's rather than over the net?
[00:37] <trey__> soundray: kk
[00:38] <DropKickMurpheys> internet here fails
[00:38] <webtoe> DropKickMurpheys: also keep in mind that 8.04 is still beat
[00:38] <webtoe> beta even
[00:38] <DropKickMurpheys> i understand that :D
[00:38] <webtoe> DropKickMurpheys: you need to tell apt to use the CD-ROM as your repository instead of the internet sources
[00:38] <kitche> webtoe: umm because you can and it's better if your machine is not really on the network most likely
[00:38] <valros> ive tried kismet, whats another that wont need libraries that i cant get
[00:38] <IdleOne> DropKickMurpheys, join #ubuntu+1
[00:39] <DropKickMurpheys> ah
[00:39] <j3kyll> soundray: got it, ha i just have a tendency to forget the small things :p
[00:39] <soundray> j3kyll: remember that nautilus hides filenames beginning with . by default. Also that it's case sensitive
[00:39] <Sinistrad> Did kismet show your AP, valros?
[00:39] <wenton> so out of interest many people here completely switched to linux?
[00:39] <valros> anyone?
[00:39] <webtoe> DropKickMurpheys: Look at System -> Administration -> Software Sources if you're using GUI
[00:39] <DropKickMurpheys> ok
[00:40] <kitche> !offtopic | wenton
[00:40] <kitche> bah stupid bot ...
[00:40] <webtoe> lol
[00:40] <trey__> wenton: kinda... its all thats installed now
[00:40] <maarek_> anyone using the Zend Data program for Google APIs?
[00:40] <wenton> oo, ur braver than me!
[00:41] <Sinistrad> Root-raid5: get dropped to the initrd prompt, "root disk not found" sort of thing.  Start the array manually ('mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sdb2 /dev/sdc2 /dev/sdd2') and exit the initrd prompt, everything boots and works.  What am I missing?  It looks like the udev rules are on the ramdisk, as well as a valid /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf on the initrd image (but it appears to get overwritten by the time I get into the initrd shell).  Thoughts?
[00:41] <DropKickMurpheys> thanks webtoe i think i figured it out
[00:41] <soyeur> wenton: I don't "completely" use Linux because I also use FreeBSD :D
[00:41] <webtoe> DropKickMurpheys: No worries....
[00:41] <Copter> I cant change resolution to anything other than 1280x1024, (Specifically i want 1024x768) on my 17" CRT ( Radeon X1950 Pro), I get blackScreen. I installed envy, I did the dpkg-reconfigure, I donno what else to do, HELP MEH!
[00:41] <Copter> SAVE ME!
[00:41] <Sinistrad> soyeur, it's only freeBSD if your time is worth nothing ;)
[00:42] <soyeur> lol
[00:42] <webtoe> Copter: No caps please; ask politely
[00:42] <maarek_> that's the limit of your drivers Copter
[00:42] <soyeur> Copter: Why would you want a worse resolution anyway lol
[00:42] <Creator|afk> d
[00:42] <maarek_> update them and see if you can go higher
[00:42] <Creator|afk> hello people
[00:42] <Copter> soyeur: coz my CRT monitor can only display 1280x1024 on 60hz
[00:42] <DropKickMurpheys> Webtoe: it just gave me an error saying something about the disk not being debian
[00:42] <Sinistrad> maarek_, you've got it backwards...he's wantin' lower.
[00:42] <soyeur> oh
[00:42] <soyeur> I see
[00:42] <Copter> and it screwes my eyez
[00:42] <wenton> i only have two things stopping me moving over completely 1 is a lack of PDA support and the other is getting my TV card to work!
[00:43] <Nihilist_Nerd> Sinistrad: Why only if your time is worth nothing? Is it very difficult to use?
[00:43] <soyeur> that's kind of weird though, Copter...
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Copter, sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[00:43] <soyeur> A 17" CRT should be able to display high resolutions just fine...
[00:43] <valros> so then this internet deal is hopeless, as it seems
[00:43] <Creator|afk> fatality
[00:43] <Creator|afk> fatality
[00:43] <Creator|afk> fatality
[00:43] <kitche> Nihilist_Nerd: license is much more different then GPL
[00:43] <Creator|afk> Aauris labs ;)
[00:43] <Sinistrad> Nihilist_Nerd, I was making a joke.  The 'if your time is worth nothing' is a standard argument against free linux/gnu/floss software...I figured I'd throw it at freeBSD, since this is a linux/GNU channel ;)
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Creator|afk, Please stop
[00:43] <Creator|afk> ka darai :)
[00:43] <Aauris> labas CreativeEmbassy
[00:43] <Aauris> kas cia vyksta
[00:43] <webtoe> DropKickMurpheys: I know this might sound stupid but where did you get the disk from? I've not update a machine to 8.04 so I don't know what the details are for it. Plus, I always do it over the net so can't help too much
[00:44] <Creator|afk> bbz ainam kur 10 zmoniu sedi ;)
[00:44] <Aauris> Creator|afk
[00:44] <Aauris> :D
[00:44] <Nihilist_Nerd> Ah okay
[00:44] <Aauris> einam
[00:44] <Nyto> Can someone help me install babo the violent 2?
[00:44] <DropKickMurpheys> Downloaded the ISO from www.ubuntu.com
[00:44] <webtoe> DropKickMurpheys: As someone mentioned, I think #ubuntu+1 is for questions onthe next release
[00:44] <verb3k> Jack_Sparrow, stgraber has made a nice nifty tool :)
[00:44] <DropKickMurpheys> k
[00:44] <DropKickMurpheys> thanks
[00:45] <Jack_Sparrow> verb3k, She did a nice job on that yes.
[00:45] <Copter> heres my xorg.conf /suicide ! http://rafb.net/p/kgbxTx44.html
[00:45] <Sinistrad> Nihilist_Nerd, and for what it's worth, the argument applies to freeBSD as much as it does to anything ;(
[00:45] <Nihilist_Nerd> I see
[00:46] <Nyto> Can someone help me install babo the violent 2?
[00:46] <verb3k> Jack_Sparrow, She? he's a guy!
[00:46] <valros> sorry timed out there
[00:47] <valros> i couldnt get kismet it needed libraries that came as updates from, guess where, the internet im trying to fix with kismet
[00:47] <Jack_Sparrow> verb3k, SInce when?
[00:47] <Sinistrad> sad, valros
[00:48] <sjovan> okay... some dude said to me that wine could perform bether without doublebuffer and that the parameter was wine /dir/to/prog/ -doublebuffer. this is my shortcut for that prog ---> . env WINEPREFIX="/home/sjovan/.wine" wine "C:\Program Files\Fallout2\fallout2.exe" <--- could i just add <space>-doublebuffer after ...exe?
[00:48] <Sinistrad> valros, try to isolate where the problem is (set essid manually, then set IP manually and that sort of thing, and do ping tests and all that)
[00:48] <verb3k> Jack_Sparrow, Stephane Graber is a girl?
[00:48] <valros> hows the ping command go?
[00:49] <Jack_Sparrow> verb3k, I thought so.. not that it matters at all..
[00:49] <sjovan> valros: ping hostename or ip
[00:49] <Jack_Sparrow> verb3k, Just appreciate the work..
[00:49] <Sinistrad> valros, start by pinging the IP of your Access Point (AP), then move on to something further away
[00:49] <verb3k> Jack_Sparrow, xD look here: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/7713515/hackergotchi.png
[00:49] <Sinistrad> valros, I assume your access point works with whatever you're using to connect right now?
[00:50] <valros> my routers IP by ping is "Network is unreachable"
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[00:50] <valros> Ya, netgear wireless router
[00:50] <zx-sanji> any1 got an idea  ? when i try to remove the dhcp3-server pckg , the output error is like invoke-rc.d: initscript dhcp3-server, action "stop" failed.  ?
[00:51] <Jordan_U> zx-sanji, You can change the init script to just exit successfully
  what how ? :D
[00:51] <Sinistrad> valros, again, try to isolate where the problem is (set essid manually, then set IP manually and that sort of thing, and do ping tests and all that)
[00:51] <sjovan> zx-sanji: is this in apt-get? if so... have you tryed to force it? -f ?
[00:51] <RAdams> How do you create a server connection to a secure webdav location? I don't see that option under Connect to Server
[00:51] <zx-sanji> apt get
[00:51] <brambo> anyone know a program, prefferably in  .deb for 64bit that I can get to monitor CPU GPU n hard drive temps here in Ubuntu?
[00:51] <sjovan> zx-sanji: so try to force it then :)
[00:51] <Sinistrad> valros, if the router is working, then the system must be wrong.  Set things manually to reasonable values and see if it works
[00:52] <zx-sanji>  triing
[00:52] <Sinistrad> valros, it may end up being that the driver the system (or you, if you pickked it) is using for your wireless card is wrong.
[00:52] <valros> would the wireless part of the router work but the ethernets continue
[00:52] <RAdams> brambo: gkrellm
  the same
[00:52] <saikor> brambo: or mbmon
[00:52] <sjovan> zx-sanji: sudo apt-get -f autoremove packagename --purge
[00:52] <Sinistrad> Valros: you've not verified the wireless side of it?
[00:52] <brambo> they support 64 bit?
[00:53] <Sinistrad> valros,  they're separate hardware on the router, the wirelss and the ethernet
[00:53] <RAdams> brambo: gkrellm does, I don't know about mbmon
[00:53] <valros> yes i know i know, but ive nothing to test it with and would it stop working in the middle of the night?
[00:53] <brambo> Thank you both
[00:53] <Sinistrad> valros, sunspots?
[00:53] <trey__> ok guys i am having a problem with the aperance virtual effects thing when i click custom i get this error: Desktop effects could not be enabled   again... help?
  still same
[00:53] <valros> or aliens?
[00:53] <Guiseppi> There are more people in this IRC channel than there are in my entire school.
[00:53] <Guiseppi> That is amazing.
[00:54] <valros> lol
[00:54] <saikor> trey__: what's the xsessions error log look like.
[00:54] <Sinistrad> valros, sunspots are more likely...it's well-known that they interfere with certain RF applications ;)
[00:54] <omar_> sudo apt-get install  libemeraldengine0 libwnck18  emerald  libwnck-common
[00:54] <Sinistrad> Guiseppi, define 'people'?
[00:54] <trey__> saikor,   ??
[00:54] <RAdams> I need help connecting to an https WebDAV
[00:54] <valros> ok but odd
[00:54] <Guiseppi> I dunno, presences.
[00:54] <Guiseppi> Names.
[00:54] <valros> any ideas on testing the wireless?
[00:54] <brambo> how can I get my registered nick back? I forgot the password, I type my name and password, says its wrong
[00:55] <crdlb> brambo: join #freenode
[00:55] <Sinistrad> valros, I'm beingfacetious, of course, (sunspots only affect long wavelength propogation :P)..  But yeah, try and set some stuff manually, tell me how it goes.
[00:55] <saikor> trey__: it's in your home dir. ~/.xsession-errors
 dpkg: error processing dhcp3-server ,(--purge) : subproces pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
[00:56] <sobersabre> hi.
[00:56] <omar_> OI KIJY
[00:56] <sobersabre> I have a q. about "likewise"
[00:56] <RAdams> !ask | sobersabre
[00:56] <Copter> I cant change resolution to anything other than 1280x1024, (Specifically i want 1024x768) on my 17" CRT ( Radeon X1950 Pro), I get blackScreen. I installed envy, I did the dpkg-reconfigure, no go. xorg.conf paste -> http://rafb.net/p/kgbxTx44.html
[00:56] <Jordan_U> zx-sanji, gksudo gedit /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server
[00:56] <sobersabre> how is it able to map the UNIX UID/GIDs for users ?
[00:56] <sjovan> zx-sanji: maby you are running it or something. ---> ps aux | grep dhcp <--- if you are -->  kill <and the proces number> <--- don't have the <> on my nick, cause then i don't get notifyed. btw... nicks autocompleat in linux. use tab :)
[00:56] <Mark_> I screwed up my lower panel by widening it too much but can't seem to find the right place on the panel now to 'right-click' and restore it to default. Any ideas?
 everithing is fine there
[00:57] <zx-sanji> wall should : :D
[00:57] <trey__> saikor: um... i know i sound like a complete noob but... how do i view that?
[00:58] <Jordan_U> zx-sanji, Yes, but if you can't figure out why it is failing ( and you just want to remove the package ) you can just have the script exit before doing anything.
[00:58] <saikor> trey_: less ~/.xsession-errors
[00:58] <zx-sanji> thats true .. :D
[00:58] <saikor> trey_: error should be near the bottom. Use a pastebin to show us the results.
[01:00] <Sinistrad> valros, Sorry I'm not better help.  Wifi is one of those things that isn't very consistent :)
[01:00] <__mikem> holly crap, what just happened
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> __mikem, Housekeeping
[01:00] <Sinistrad> valros, I mean ... invisible waves of electromagnetic energy? wtf?
[01:00] <Mark_> I screwed up my lower panel by widening it too much but can't seem to find the right place on the panel now to 'right-click' and restore it to default. Any ideas?
[01:01] <Mark_> oops disregard that
[01:01] <trey__> saikor: http://www.pastebin.ca/965434
[01:03] <saikor> trey__: did you trying setting to custom appearance settings them looking at the log (straight away)?
[01:03] <saikor>  trey__:  after it fails ofcourse
[01:03] <trey__> saikor: not the split second but... i will do that hold on
[01:03] <MatBoy> damn, I removed compiz and now my FF and so does not appear in my screen anymore :(
[01:04] <zx-sanji> sjovan  it was yust  kill and the prooces number ?
[01:04] <sjovan> zx-sanji: mhm
[01:04] <saikor> trey__: also make sure you go to the bottom of the file
[01:04] <maria_> hey to you all greetings.....i have a proplem with knetworkmanager it doesn't find my wireless card
[01:04] <saikor> trey__:that's where the new stuff will be
[01:04] <maria_> what to do?
[01:05] <elbarto_> hjh
[01:05] <trey__> saikor, how do i get there (oh boy! anouther noob question!!!)
[01:06] <saikor> trey__: no prob. Once you have the file open in 'less'. press page down till the reading on the bottom right says "100%"
[01:06] <brambo> I got both  gkrellm and mbmon but neither show up in my menu...how can I open them?
[01:06] <zx-sanji> sjovan nothing ...
[01:06] <saikor> brambo:  command line is easiesrt
[01:06] <brambo> saikor: you mean the Terminal ?
[01:06] <saikor> brambo: accessories-> terminal. Then type mbmon
[01:06] <saikor> brambo: yeah
[01:07] <VisionOfMalkav> hi all
[01:07] <sjovan> maria_: you prob need ndiswrapper. sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper, and then read  ---> man ndiswrapper
[01:07] <sjovan> zx-sanji: well, if you didn't get a error then you killed the ap.
[01:07] <saikor> brambo: mbmon has to run as root so type. 'sudo mbmon'
[01:07] <brambo> saikor: Sorry, I'm still really new to Linux in general, but I'm learning...I really love Linux...
[01:07] <zx-sanji> sjovan the thin is its not running .. :D
[01:07] <brambo> saikor: oh ok, ty for tip
[01:07] <sjovan> zx-sanji: do another search to be shure. if it's gone, then try to remove it again
[01:07] <TromBoeZoe> hi, how do erase the data from a floppy so that it is "unformatted"
[01:07] <zx-sanji> sjovan  only the  grep dhcp ..
[01:07] <saikor> brambo: no problem.
[01:08] <trey__> saikor: here:                                             http://www.pastebin.ca/965449
[01:08] <VisionOfMalkav> Anyone know what pages upon pages of "SQUASHFS failed reading block / unable to read page / sb_bread failed reading block" when attempting to boot from the LiveCD is all about?
[01:08] <TromBoeZoe> !floppy
[01:09] <CVD-PR> hey
[01:09] <brainiac8008> hey guys, i have an nvidia geforce 6150se.  I want to set up compiz so i tried the nvidia-glx-new driver but upon restarting x i could only get into low-graphics mode.  I'm using a 7.10 livecd.  any ideas?
[01:10] <zx-sanji> sjovan: nothing ...
[01:10] <Johnson_> yo, looking for purify for ubuntu for a c class im taking, can't seem to find it, anyone know where to get it at
[01:11] <saikor> saikor: hmm. I'm not sure. what graphics card do you have?
[01:11] <saikor> lol
[01:11] <saikor> trey_: hmm. I'm not sure. what graphics card do you have?
[01:11] <sjovan> zx-sanji: are you shure? you did do ---> ps aux | grep dhcp <--- or just grep dhcp?
[01:11] <saikor> trey_: and are the drivers installed?
[01:11] <trey__> saikor: intergrated intel
[01:11] <trey__> :=(
[01:11] <user1> sorry ws bumped b4
[01:11] <trey__> =(
[01:12] <zx-sanji> sjovan  ps aux | grep dhcp  ... nothing
[01:12] <zx-sanji> sjovan  just an current thread or search should i say ..
[01:12] <trey__> (^)0.0(^)
[01:12] <sjovan> zx-sanji: okay, but then i'm out of idees :/ make a topic in the forum
[01:13] <kbidd> can anyone tell me how gnash compares to adobe flash player when it comes to performance?
[01:13] <Mark_> anyone know how I can expand a panel so as to easily see the applications running and NOT have the icons on that panel expand as well?
[01:13] <eddyMul> a VM loaded by `kvm -net nic -net user vm.img` cannot resolve names to IPs using qemu's DNS server. Any suggestions?
[01:13] <trey__> saikor... me sad... :...(     <see! i am crying!
[01:13] <Mark_> kbidd, I can't get either to work properly in Firefox
[01:14] <saikor> trey__: try installing emerald from synaptic. I doubt it'll work but it's worth a try.
[01:14] <jjt009> anyone here know anything about mysql?
[01:14] <jjt009> i need some help
[01:14] <user1> So I was wondering if anyone knew how to change the color of the screen that appears between the login screen and the desktop load, seems i could change the login screen to blubuntu and the deskctop screen theme to blubuntu but theres a brown/orange screen that appears after the login screen and before the desktop loads....any ideas on how to change that?
[01:14] <Mark_> kbidd, I tried going to gizmodo and youtube after installing one and then the other and they both stink
[01:14] <Mark_> saikor, what does emerald give you that ccsm doesn't?
[01:14] <trey__> saikor: will do hold on...
[01:15] <zx-sanji> sjovan .. well the server worked yust fine ... when ive changed the config located in /etc/dhcpd.conf , got errors  .. the same ones ... independentli if i change the config once again .. the same output ... by reinstall as well ..
[01:15] <saikor> Mark_: probably nothing.
[01:15] <Survivorman> user1, try going to appearance, background and changing solid color. that might work.
[01:15] <Mark_> saikor, ill ck it out just the same
[01:15] <eddyMul> me switching networks might be the cause. restarting....
[01:15] <zx-sanji> sjovan spend almost 10 hrs tryin to figure it out ..
[01:16] <trooperas> hi from greece :)
[01:16] <Crewsr3> I would like some feedback on a topic - With the next Ubuntu Distro just days away, is it time to go 64 bit or should I stay with 32
[01:17] <amenado> 32
[01:17] <zx-sanji> sjovan  .. anyway cheers for the interest ..  ty
[01:17] <winterwolf> Can anyone message me for one minute, I am trying to see if my private messages are working, I have registered I believe now
[01:17] <valros> I believe my routers wireless network is broken, any diagnosis or fixes?
[01:17] <sjovan> zx-sanji: yeah, and sorry that i couldn't help any more :/
[01:17] <amenado> valros  can you ping your router?
[01:17] <zx-sanji> sjovan> no worries ..
[01:18] <zx-sanji> valros does your router work wit something else ?
[01:18] <crdlb> winterwolf: you are registered and identified
[01:18] <valros> yes, this
[01:18] <valros> im running off it right now, its just the wireless
[01:18] <winterwolf> crdlb: What all is visible to other users?
[01:18] <trey__> saikor: nope! it dont work... :-\
[01:19] <zx-sanji> so you are on ethernet right now  \
[01:19] <zx-sanji>  ?
[01:19] <valros> that or ubuntu refuses to recognize it when it sees others
[01:19] <valros> yes, ehternet now
[01:19] <crdlb> winterwolf: what do you mean?
[01:19] <valros> finally, its working
[01:19] <Crewsr3> I would like some feedback on a topic - With the next Ubuntu Distro just days away, is it time to go 64 bit or should I stay with 32
[01:19] <user1> ill try that Surbivorman
[01:19] <winterwolf> crdlb: I have been on chat networks before where other people we're able to view my IP address and more...That's not very secure
[01:19] <valros> and only when the laptop was subjected to another location
[01:19] <winterwolf> crdlb: is it like that here?
[01:20] <zx-sanji> hmm ..
[01:20] <crdlb> winterwolf: if you want your ip address hidden, ask for a cloak in #freenode
[01:20] <Ava-> ok after updating to hardy everything is lagged as heck in X
[01:20] <saikor> trey: what's the output from lspci | grep VGA
[01:20] <Ava-> I have the correcnt nvidia driver installed
[01:20] <crdlb> winterwolf: look at /whois winterwolf , that's what other people can see
[01:20] <crdlb> for the most part
[01:20] <zx-sanji> valros seems like the signal is too  low for an unknown reason..
[01:20] <Ava-> but it's chuggin
[01:20] <f0rmat> erm i was just wondering when i tried to mount a partition like this "sudo mount -v -t ext3 /dev/sda5 $ADN"  the partition failz to mount saying it already is mounted why would this be :S i cannot unmount from nautilus and every other way failz :(
[01:20] <valros> no ubuntu sees it now
[01:20] <valros> its wierd
[01:20] <valros> only sees it now after i took it to a different location
[01:20] <user1> Survivorman - i checked its actually already set to a solid blue color  :-(
[01:21] <valros> whitewolf im unregistered, cant PM yet
[01:21] <zx-sanji> valros drivers ...
[01:21] <valros> its working now wih the drivers ubuntu came with
[01:21] <winterwolf> crdlb: I have typed that, nothing appears
[01:21] <nabcore> can I use apt to upgrade my gutsy 7.10 to the hardy 8.04 beta?
[01:21] <crdlb> winterwolf: it'll go to your server tab
[01:21] <valros> i hope this doesnt start up again
[01:21] <kelvin911> How to make new open window not sticking to the bottom of the screen?
[01:21] <trey__> saikor: http://www.pastebin.ca/965469
[01:21] <Ava-> I don't suppose there is anyway of downgrading from hardy back to gutsy eh?
[01:22] <amenado> f0rmat-> pastebin your  mount results
[01:22] <Survivorman> user1, how about background color in the login window prefs
[01:22] <trey__> ava: lol
[01:22] <zx-sanji> valros  like my pci wlan .... could get more than 17kb througput ...
[01:22] <RAdams> In mount.davfs, how does one set the option in fstab to always trust the certificate of the share?
[01:22] <user1> Survivorman   hmmm let me check
[01:22] <kelvin911> because i am running awn dock and its very inconvinent to have new open window stick to the bottom of the screen
[01:22] <MatBoy> after I removed compiz and emerald, I have no window decoration anymore, FF won't appear and my splashscreen is hanging
[01:22] <valros> how can i test the current speed of the connection im on?
[01:22] <f0rmat> amenado, No need it isn't that large "mount: /dev/sda5 already mounted or /mnt/adn busy"
[01:23] <zx-sanji> valros try some web based speedmeter
[01:23] <RAdams> valros: www.speedtest.net
[01:23] <user1> Survivorman   its already set to black :-(
[01:23] <valros> thanks, forgot about that
[01:23] <amenado> f0rmat-> what is /mnt/adn busy?
[01:23] <MatBoy> is there a command I should run when I removed compiz ?
[01:23] <MatBoy> and emerald ?
[01:23] <MrBarrett> my amarok wont play mp3 needs decoder.... what do i do? on kubuntu 7.1
[01:23] <f0rmat> i am using $ADN as a shortcut to /dev/sda5
[01:24] <RAdams> !mp3 > MrBarrett
[01:24] <RAdams> Where is the bot?
[01:24] <MatBoy> man, this is annoying :) I have to start my vm to get to the internet :D
[01:24] <zx-sanji> RAdams hmm but there is an bug ..
[01:24] <MrBarrett> !mp3
[01:24] <f0rmat> amenado, i am using $ADN as a shortcut to /dev/sda5
[01:25] <icesword> MatBoy, what vm?
[01:25] <kelvin911> i found that the flash in speedtest.net is really useless
[01:25] <amenado> f0rmat-> what exactly is your command? what is value of $ADN ?
[01:25] <RAdams> zx-sanji: what bug?
[01:25] <zx-sanji> RAdams  with the mp3 ..  and xine .. . broken packages .. and so on ...
[01:25] <MatBoy> icesword, windows :\
[01:25] <icesword> which one,no,whick software you use
[01:25] <MrBarrett> help?
[01:25] <MatBoy> FF won't start, no application does start
[01:25] <RAdams> zx-sanji: Ah.
[01:25] <MatBoy> icesword, vmware
[01:25] <kelvin911> i think http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ is better
[01:25] <RAdams> MrBarrett: #kubuntu might get you a faster answer
[01:25] <Survivorman> user1, that should have did it. I found the solution in a forum, so maybe, like with me, something like XGL loading interferes with it. I'm not sure. look into this too: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13055
[01:25] <icesword> MatBoy, oh,,,hehehe,you don't need to restart
[01:25] <MrBarrett> been there no responce
[01:26] <MatBoy> icesword, hehe, nicew one :P
[01:26] <destructar> hi all: having issues with mythtv playback... have v4l2 installed via restricted drivers, all videos working proper via VLC, Mplayer and Totem... mythtv fails to play recordings (same recordings work in all other mentioned programs)
[01:26] <MatBoy> I need my Gnome to run again :)
[01:26] <MatBoy> annoying compiz
[01:26] <destructar> i get the error "XvMCTex Init failed"
[01:26] <icesword> MatBoy, wait,let me check
[01:26] <f0rmat> amenado, export ADN=/mnt/adn; mkdir -pv $ADN; sudo mount -v -t ext3 /dev/sda5 $ADN
[01:26] <MatBoy> icesword, ok :)
[01:26] <zx-sanji> RAdams  same thing happened to me, and i yust didnt have nerves  to get over it .. :D
[01:27] <Survivorman> and look into the too user1: http://www.indragunawan.com/2008/03/change-gdm-login-window-background-colour-on-ubuntu-710/
[01:27] <amenado> f0rmat-> and the error you get is ?  /dev/sda5 is busy?
[01:27] <destructar> if i disable v4l2 drivers then mythtv plays recordings and live tv just fine, all other programs unable to perform correctly
[01:27] <icesword> MatBoy, click on edit in vmware>vitual network configure
[01:27] <MatBoy> icesword, ;) my Linux is my host :)
[01:27] <valros> doing speetest.net, ubuntu froze, its been freezing during connections like this
[01:27] <f0rmat> amenado, to be more presise "mount: /dev/sda5 already mounted or /mnt/lfs busy"
[01:27] <icesword> MatBoy, it is same,
[01:27] <zx-sanji> valros ping something
[01:28] <zx-sanji> valros ping  yuour default gateway ..
[01:28] <valros> k
[01:28] <amenado> f0rmat-> well just like it says its already mounted, and I asked you to paste the result of mount but you wont do, so how would we know if it is really mounted?
[01:28] <trey__> saikor: you still there?
[01:28] <f0rmat> amenado, that was the results
[01:28] <amenado> f0rmat-> please paste in pastebin result of  "mount"  command
[01:29] <icesword> MatBoy, in that one,browse to tab dhcp,>dhcp service,>restart>apply,then to nat>nat service>restart>apply
[01:29] <f0rmat> amenado, ok
[01:29] <Dr_willis> the pastebinit command is so handy. :)
[01:29] <zcat[1]> f0rmat: not useful.. the device may be mounted somewhere else.. or some other device may be mounted on that mountpoint..
[01:29] <CookedGryphon> Hi, I'm using the hardy beta and want to rotate my display, the screen resolution dialog only has Normal as an option. I'm using an sis chipset. I had it set up in gutsy by messing with xorg.conf, but i'm not confident messing that since it's all changed over to the bulletproof x thing and can't find any relevant docs
[01:29] <valros> from my router, pings are around .8 ms
[01:29] <saikor> saikor:  sorry was away
[01:29] <trey__> pastebinit
[01:29] <zx-sanji> valros try ping www.google.com -c 5   othervise you will end up with 1000+ requests :D
[01:29] <saikor> trey__: sorry was away.
[01:30] <trey__> saikor: then you misted this is what i get: http://www.pastebin.ca/965469
[01:30] <icesword> MatBoy, you got me, are you using vmware workstation?
[01:30] <MatBoy> icesword, you don't know what I was talking about :)
[01:30] <alteregoa> high
[01:30] <amenado> CookedGryphon-> want to get a stiff neck? try  xrandr -o 3
[01:30] <valros> google pinged, runnin around 20-40 ms
[01:30] <kelvin911> when does ubuntu has this 3d desktop ?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ODskdEPnQ
[01:30] <alteregoa> does ubuntu overtake debian?
[01:30] <kelvin911> i mean real 3d desktop
[01:30] <Nineaxis> Can anyone help me install ubuntu on a server that currently is running fedora 8?
[01:30] <zcat[1]> kelvin911: when you have a 3d card and the appropriate drivers
[01:30] <alteregoa> this kindergarten desktop isn't productive at all
[01:30] <Merevaik> Hey is there a how to for installing/using windows games on Linux/Ubuntu? I can't find one anywhere and I have no idea what I'm doing >_<
[01:30] <saikor> trey__: definitely an intel chip then. can you run ' glxinfo | grep direct'
[01:30] <zx-sanji> valros hmm .. thats quite high ..
[01:31] <kelvin911> no i mean real 3D desktop not just cube
[01:31] <kelvin911> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ODskdEPnQ
[01:31] <valros> 20ms to google is high?
[01:31] <icesword> MatBoy, then what is your problem
[01:31] <f0rmat> amenado, http://pastebin.com/d42accb72
[01:31] <zx-sanji> valros try ping www.google.com -c 5 -s 1000
[01:31] <MatBoy> icesword, my gtk window decorator does not work
[01:31] <zcat[1]> kelvin911: how 3d can it get, nobody has a true volumetric display on the market yet
[01:31] <MatBoy> does gnome needs compiz these days by default ?
[01:31] <sk8ball> SATA is hot swappable right?
[01:31] <kelvin911> zcat[1]: look at the youtube link, i dont mean compiz-fusion, i have it, but i want something like that in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ODskdEPnQ
[01:31] <icesword> hmm
[01:31] <valros> oh god dmanit
[01:31] <EzraEzra> merevaik : yes there is, just a second
[01:31] <zx-sanji> valros  thats really high
[01:32] <Merevaik> Thanks
[01:32] <amenado> f0rmat-> please paste in pastebin result of  "mount"  command  <-- how difficult is this command to issue?
[01:32] <valros> did speedtest and...it froze
[01:32] <Ava-> how can I force a reinstall of hardy?
[01:32] <Nineaxis> ...can anyone help me install ubuntu on a fedora 8 server?
[01:32] <valros> whats with ubuntu freezing on this connection?
[01:32] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. You may want to clarify that a bit Nineaxis
[01:32] <CookedGryphon> amenado: :D but that fails, Failed request BadMatch (Invalid parameter attributes)
[01:32] <zx-sanji> valros   did u tried the  -s 1000 command ?
[01:32] <alteregoa> is SADO masoable?
[01:32] <amenado> f0rmat-> what you showed me is your way of doing things, I asked specifcally.. "mount" only
[01:32] <kelvin911> zcat[1]: look at the link it looks quite real
[01:32] <valros> in a sec
[01:32] <f0rmat> amenado, i don't think you understand that is the only result i am receiving from this console
[01:33] <zx-sanji> valros ping www.google.com -c 5 -s 1000
[01:33] <Nineaxis> Well, I have a server that's currently running Fedora 8, and since Fedora is screwing with me, I want to install ubuntu over it
[01:33] <saikor>  trey__: what's the result from glxinfo | grep direct?
[01:33] <amenado> CookedGryphon-> oh well that works in 7.10  if you want hardy support please visit #ubuntu+1
[01:33] <Ava-> how can I force a reinstall of hardy?
[01:33] <alteregoa> the result is to much proprietary bananas in the ape
[01:33] <zcat[1]> kelvin911: hmmm.. ok. Yes, I've seen that b4 .. it doesn't look all that practical to me. and afaik there's no desktop like that on linux yet.
[01:34] <CookedGryphon> amenado: aha, thanks, i tried #hardy but that didn't exist
[01:34] <amenado> f0rmat-> once more on a terminal just type  mount  by itself..
[01:34] <zx-sanji> valros whats is your main connection ?  wireless as well ?
[01:34] <amenado> !hardy | Ava-
[01:34] <valros> wow!, zx, it was 4 seconds for 5 packets to google
[01:34] <Dr_willis> Nineaxis,  start the installer, format the old system install the new....
[01:34] <f0rmat> amenado, sorry that was my fault i thout you meant in general not mount by itself :(
[01:34] <Dr_willis> Nineaxis,  backing up any impiorntant stuff first - of course
[01:35] <kelvin911> zcat[1]: i know it isnt that practical but it does impress people
[01:35] <valros> but would that speed be due to it being wireless with 2 ethernets connected and in use
[01:35] <kelvin911> it looks cool anyway
[01:35] <trey__> saikor: sorry was away... here: http://www.pastebin.ca/965495
[01:35] <winterwolf> I opened gkrellm through sudo in terminal but when I closed my terminal it also closed gkrellm ...What did I do wrong?
[01:35] <Nineaxis> So I write the .iso file to a disk and stick it in the server and go find the command to execute it?
[01:35] <Astek> cyas
[01:35] <valros> zx-sanji, 4 seconds for google 5 packets to and from
[01:35] <zx-sanji> valros  no ..
[01:35] <mmm4m5m> Help: network is down after reboot. When I restart network, it start working. This is random: http://pastebin.ca/965493
[01:35] <amenado> valros  your host two nics are connected to same router?
[01:36] <Dr_willis> winterwolf,  well theres no need to run it as root.  plus use the 'exit' command do NOT NOT NOT use the terminal windows close button
[01:36] <valros> come again amenado?
[01:36] <zx-sanji> valros   the nics  arent an problem ..
[01:36] <valros> nic?
[01:36] <f0rmat> amenado, http://pastebin.com/d3dd3741a
[01:36] <saikor> trey__: looks like your drivers aren't setup right. Go to system -> Administrator -> restricted drivers.
[01:36] <amenado> mmm4m5m-> pls paste in pastebin your  /etc/network/interfaces file
[01:36] <valros> sorry but whats a "nic"
[01:36] <zcat[1]> kelvin911: I prefer useful stuff like zoom, expo, group and tab, etc.
[01:36] <mmm4m5m> amenado: all is there: http://pastebin.ca/965493
[01:36] <silent132> Hi guys
[01:36] <amenado> valros  your host two nics are connected to same router? <-- what part of this you dont understand?
[01:36] <zx-sanji> valros  sry cisco thing :D
[01:36] <trey__> saikor: ok hold on
[01:36] <sk8ball> SATA is hot swappable right???
[01:36] <EzraEzra> merevaik : sorry i'm gonna search some more; didn't find what i was looking for right now
[01:36] <zx-sanji> valros   mean the ethernet cards .. D:
[01:37] <Merevaik> Ok thanks
[01:37] <saikor> sk8ball: I wouldn't recommend it.
[01:37] <Merevaik> I'm useless :s
[01:37] <sk8ball> saikor, why is that?
[01:37] <valros> i have 2 computers wired to this router and the one ubuntu wireless
[01:37] <zx-sanji> valros so iw works fine  with ethernet  ?
[01:37] <sk8ball> i mean, not on a regular basis or anything
[01:37] <Dr_willis> sk8ball,  not that i have seen actually work.
[01:37] <sk8ball> really just one time thing
[01:37] <saikor> sk8ball: there is no way to tell if a disk has had the buffer flushed. So you could cause corruption
[01:37] <destructar> do i need v4l installed in order to use VLC ?
[01:37] <sk8ball> saikor, what if its a dvdrw
[01:37] <sk8ball> ?
[01:37] <kelvin911> what expo does?
[01:38] <amenado> mmm4m5m-> give me a few,
[01:38] <kelvin911> really?
[01:38] <zx-sanji> valros what was that wor an wireless card ?
[01:38] <valros> im confused on the terminology, what im wondering is why ubuntu is freezing during connections
[01:38] <saikor> sk8ball: hrm...dunno.
[01:38] <zcat[1]> kelvin911: I don't really need a way to make my computer desktop as messy as my real desktop.. I can live without that
[01:38] <valros> integrated 802.11b/g in the dell
[01:38] <saikor> sk8ball: you could give it a go and let us know, but if you break something don't blame me.
[01:38] <zx-sanji> valros  intel one ?
[01:38] <valros> yexz
[01:38] <sk8ball> alright
[01:38] <valros> yes
[01:38]  * sk8ball crosses his toes
[01:38] <zx-sanji> valros  model number ?
[01:38] <amenado> f0rmat-> something is amiss, also please  paste your  sudo fdisk -l    results
[01:39] <kelvin911> my  real desktop is like a pile of trash
[01:39] <zerosignal> anyone know if there is a way to control how ubuntu controls my hdd on my laptop?  like I have a suspicion that whenever the drive isnt being used its being "spun down"
[01:39] <valros> oh sorry, gateway not dell
[01:39] <trey__> saikor: looks like i have to install somthing ;) lol: http://www.pastebin.ca/965498
[01:39] <zx-sanji> valroswell ive got an dell latitude d620 ... it works fine ..
[01:39] <valros> gateway model is WS40UA
[01:39] <silent132> Question: I have two Hard drives-if i instal ubuntu on one, will i be able to access the files i backed up on the other on?
[01:39] <valros> W340UA*
[01:39] <kelvin911> beer bottles, pop can, flash light, papers books, razar, coffees, my yesterdays dinner and stuffs
[01:39] <saikor> saikor: go ahead and install it :)
[01:39] <saikor> gah
[01:40] <valros> also listed as a model# MT3423
[01:40] <alan_m> silent132, depends on what the other one is formatted as I believe.
[01:40] <zcat[1]> so is mine .. If I could click a menu and have my real desktop look like my ubuntu desktop, then I would do that.. but being able to scatter icons randomly and pile them up, no thanks..
[01:40] <Ava-> IS there any way to force a re-install of hardy?!
[01:40] <saikor> trey: go ahead and install it
[01:40] <Dr_willis> zerosignal,  the hdparm command can tweak that. Thers a lot of discussion about over-kill-powersaving for hard drives under ubuntu, in the forums.
[01:40] <amenado> mmm4m5m-> having to interfaces  connecting to same router/gateway  how do you expect your host to choose which gateway to pick or which nic should the packets come out of?
[01:40] <mactaylor> will 64bit boost performance?????????????
[01:40] <zerosignal> Dr_willis ok thanks let me see what I can find
[01:40] <IdleOne> Ava-, yeah pop in the cd
[01:40] <Falling-Inferno> !ipod
[01:40] <Ava-> Idle: without the CD
[01:40] <zcat[1]> !64bit\
[01:40] <silent132> alan-i think its formatted for windows, but i dont think it has an OS on it.
[01:40] <zx-sanji> valros hmmm ..
[01:40] <amenado> mmm4m5m-> having two* interfaces  connecting to same router/gateway  how do you expect your host to choose which gateway to pick or which nic should the packets come out of?
[01:41] <IdleOne> Ava-, none that I have heard of
[01:41] <zcat[1]> !botsnack
[01:41] <zcat[1]> ..ok, who killed it this time
[01:41] <Falling-Inferno> !ipos
[01:41] <IdleOne> Yum! I mean APT!
[01:41] <Falling-Inferno> !ipod
[01:41] <IdleOne> :P
[01:41] <alan_m> silent132, fat32, fa16, ntfs...what is it formatted under?
[01:41] <mactaylor> yes or no?
[01:41] <IdleOne> bots are down
[01:41] <zcat[1]> !64bit
[01:41] <silent132> alan-oh sorry i believe it is ntfs
[01:41] <zx-sanji> valros hmmm .. try to read here   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=551596
[01:41] <zcat[1]> IdleOne: Grrr.. you confused me!
[01:41] <valros>      /msg nickserv register argus
[01:41] <mmm4m5m> amenado: I do not know :), let me think a litle :)
[01:41] <IdleOne> zcat[1], lol
[01:42] <amenado> f0rmat-> something is amiss, also please  paste your  sudo fdisk -l    results  <-- anything ?
[01:42] <crdlb> valros: make sure you don't use that password :)
[01:42] <alan_m> silent132, you should have no problems with read/write access to it, and should be able to copy everything...if thats what your asking about silent132
[01:42] <f0rmat> amenado, i can't beleive it..... thankyou so much when i ran that command i saw that the mount points were switched from sda5 to sda3
[01:42] <f0rmat> :(
[01:42] <valros> lol
[01:42] <f0rmat> thankyou
[01:42] <amenado> f0rmat you're welcome
[01:43] <mrkeishii> whats up?
[01:43] <Merevaik> The roof :D
[01:43] <zx-sanji> valros well.. cant help ypu more ..
[01:43] <valros> ok, thanks im looking at the forum post
[01:43] <silent132> alan_m, ya i put all my music and movies on it. In the past i installed kubuntu and it wojuldnt read the other hard drive.
[01:44] <mrkeishii> Kubuntu looks great
[01:44] <amenado> valros  your host (ubuntu) has two nics and are connected to same router?
[01:44] <trey__> saikor: where do i get: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-server ??
[01:44] <sk8ball> well it got power and everything fine opened/closed etc... but it took a reboot to get ubuntu to recognize it
[01:44] <mrkeishii> but is Kubuntu better than Ubuntu?
[01:44] <valros> ....explanation to someone who knows nothing about linux?
[01:44] <mmm4m5m> amenado: I want br0 to get IP from dhcp. I want to use br0 for all connections. and I am not sure about eth0, mostly have be static IP? does it have to be the same subnet (192.168.11.xxx)?
[01:44] <alan_m> !ot | mrkeishii
[01:44] <saikor> open up synaptic package manager. under system -> administration.
[01:45] <Jaden> How do I get wine installed?
[01:45] <mrkeishii> yes alan
[01:45] <soyeur> sudo apt-get install wine
[01:45] <mrkeishii> Jaden: go to winehq.com
[01:45] <MatBoy> is compiz default running on Ubuntu these days ?
[01:45] <mrkeishii> yeah like soyeur said
[01:45] <trey__> matboy: no :(
[01:45] <Jaden> cool thanks
[01:45] <soyeur> MatBoy: On Gutsy Gibbon (Compiz-Fusion)
[01:45] <mrkeishii> np
[01:45] <amenado> mmm4m5m-> the key is the route table, but thats a bit of an advanced topic, so just have one route to get out of your subnet and one nic to get to same subnet
[01:45] <soyeur> As well as Hardy Heron
[01:45] <mrkeishii> how do you install Beryl?
[01:45] <MatBoy> trey__, mhh, I removed it + emerald and I lost my window decoration
[01:45] <valros> amenado say that again?
[01:45] <zx-sanji> valros ... get some other wireless from carboot ... and thats it ..  5 quid .. the cheapest solution ..
[01:46] <trey__> saikor: i did that but i cant find it...
[01:46] <soyeur> MatBoy: Reinstall it?
[01:46] <valros> get another wireless router or card?
[01:46] <zx-sanji> valros wireless .
[01:46] <soyeur> mrkeishii: You probably don't want beryl...
[01:46] <mrkeishii> y is that
[01:46] <trey__> matboy: sounds bad... i feel sorry for you... im just trying to get it installed now...
[01:46] <amenado> valros  your host (ubuntu) has two nics? are connected to same router?
[01:46] <soyeur> mrkeishii: The Beryl Project has been merged into the Compiz project to form Compiz-Fusion, which is default on Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon and up
[01:47] <mrkeishii> oh okay
[01:47] <saikor> trey__: do a search for linux-restricted-modules in the manager.
[01:47] <zx-sanji> amenado his wireless card is not fully suported ..
[01:47] <valros> amenado, i dont get what your saying, say it to someone with basic knowledge please?
[01:47] <mrkeishii> but i like the 3d block thing and other features though
[01:47] <Flare183> Moose: see?
[01:47] <soyeur> mrkeishii: If you want the cool effects, download the
[01:47] <amenado> zx-sanji-> ahh the infamous broadcom  bcm43xx ..hehe
[01:47] <soyeur> Compiz Control Settings Control Panel
[01:47] <trey__> linux-restricted-modules ok! i did one diferantly... brb
[01:47] <mrkeishii> from where
[01:47] <soyeur> Just do a search in Synaptic for "Compiz Control Panel"
[01:47] <soyeur> you should find it
[01:47] <anteaya> I need to add a path to $PATH so it is available regardless of whether I open and close my terminal, (it's a gem)
[01:48] <soyeur> There, you can enable effects like the 3D cube
[01:48] <amenado> valros-> its okay... good luck
[01:48] <mrkeishii> thanks alot
[01:48] <MatBoy> soyeur, reinstall what ?
[01:48] <valros> now im downloading the ndiswrapper drivers
[01:48] <valros> hopefully they'll work
[01:48] <soyeur> MatBoy: Reinstall Compiz-Fusion?
[01:48] <amenado> anteaya-> add it to your .bashrc or .bash_profile if you got one?
[01:48] <MatBoy> soyeur, it doesn't work on 4 screens with different resolutions
[01:49] <valros> is there an apt-get install for alsa drivers, lib, utils?
[01:49] <MatBoy> soyeur, so I don't need it, but I want my default windows back
[01:49] <soyeur> Then just use metacity instead?
[01:49] <mrkeishii> idk
[01:49] <mmm4m5m> amenado: I am learning linux language now, not sure I understand you very well. I mean - 10x for help, at least I know what to read now (I do not mind route tables or anything, but windows everything is mostly clicking). If it simple, can you tell me how interface file must looks like?
[01:49] <mrkeishii> it can't find any
[01:49] <anteaya> amenado: .bashrc is open, where do i add it, and what should it look like?
[01:49] <soyeur> Reinstall Emerald, and then right click the emerald icon and choose "Use Metacity"
[01:49] <soyeur> Then you will have the regular WM
[01:49] <mrkeishii> I just typed Compiz Control Panel
[01:50] <MatBoy> soyeur, doesn't work
[01:50] <mrkeishii> and it pop up in side bar, but no pakages installed.
[01:50] <Djmack> How hard is it to get a static IP?
[01:50] <mrkeishii> So how do i get that 3d cube and all other effects?
[01:50] <amenado> mmm4m5m-> im not sure you can learn linux language, there is none that I know of, perhaps bash or python or perl..  you can "cat /etc/network/interfaces"
[01:51] <amenado> anteaya-> at the end, then log out or to take effect "source" .bashrc
[01:51] <mrkeishii> IDK
[01:51] <Ava-> the prefix for gutsy and hardy is still /usr corrent? not /usr/local?
[01:51] <anteaya> amenado: what should the added code look like?
[01:51] <mrkeishii> i would love to have those nice effects but idk how to get them???
[01:52] <Djmack> How hard is it to get a static IP?
[01:52] <amenado> anteaya->  export PATH=/new/added/path:$PATH
[01:52] <osenvironment> heheh,how hard？
[01:52] <trey__> saikor: error upon error upon error! ( =(     ) now i get: http://www.pastebin.ca/965517    but i have my cd in (pulls hair out...)
[01:52] <amenado> Djmack-> you have to pay an arm and a leg
[01:52] <anteaya> amenado: thanks will try
[01:52] <Ava-> this must be #ignore Ava-
[01:53] <Djmack> so it is something i buy from my service provider
[01:53] <epitron> does anyone here know how anything about fontconfig? it's having a strange problem: "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont: failed to write cache"
[01:53] <epitron> it's blocking me from finishing the install of X
[01:53] <amenado> Djmack-> yes if you want it registered under your entity, and have entries in the official name servers
[01:53] <saikor> trey__:  open up /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor and delete the lines that reference your cdrom.
[01:54] <mrkeishii> So how do i get the compiz control panel up?
[01:54] <saikor> trey__: then it'll just get the file from the web instead.
[01:54] <jrr> ubuntu 8.0.4 (linux 2.6.24-12-server): i'm trying to compile a driver that stopped working at kernel 2.6.23.  is it possible to downgrade to another ubuntu-packaged kernel?
[01:54] <amenado> jrr please visit #ubuntu+1
[01:54] <jrr> okie dokle
[01:54] <jrr> thanks
[01:55] <valros> is the bot down?
[01:55] <mrkeishii> nvm i searched for it on add/remove apps
[01:55] <winterwolf> I can't seem to get  Java Runtime Enviroment to run and work, can someone help me install it? My browser finds it and says it needs it but can't get it automatically
[01:55] <valros> winterwolf, what browser'
[01:56] <Djmack> well... my cousin mentioned to me that i could make some money off hosting Website back-ups on my computer... and my plan was, if i got this set up. i would just borrow my friends blade server. and use it untill i could get my own
[01:56] <winterwolf> valros: I use  Flock cause Youtube works better on it
[01:56] <winterwolf> valros: but it does this same thing with FireFox
[01:56] <valros> never heard of it, and i dont think adobe will recognize it
[01:56] <amenado> winterwolf-> sudo  apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin sun-java5-fonts
[01:56] <erisco> my open office transitions are playing at a snail's pace... at best 1fps, which makes it extremely crappy and choppy. what's up with that?
[01:57] <Stroganoff> i'll never get that "free" command. could some1 tell me how much RAM is actually consumed? http://pastebin.com/m4cfde2d9
[01:57] <amenado> erisco if I was watching your presentation and you flipped pages that fast, im walking out
[01:57] <erisco> Stroganoff, free -m
[01:57] <zcat[1]> Stroganoff: on my laptop.. generally all of it..
[01:58] <erisco> amenado, what?
[01:58] <Djmack> you think verizon (my provider) provides a residential internet with static IP?  cause im looking at some packages and they come with a bunch of crap that i dont want
[01:58] <Stroganoff> erisco, i am able to devide by 1000
[01:58] <erisco> Stroganoff, what?
[01:58] <amenado> erisco-> do you realize how fast 1 frame per second is for an audience to capture the info?
[01:58] <erisco> amenado, did you even read my problem?
[01:58] <zcat[1]> amenado: he's talking about the transitions.. the nice slide/fade effects between slides
[01:58] <amenado> erisco that is my interpretation of your problem
[01:59] <erisco> amenado, read again then :s
[01:59] <reeeh2000> Hello all, I am trying to hook up a Xbox 360 wired controller to be used with Gusty Gibbon, any one know of an up to date how to?
[01:59] <amenado> erisco nope, do your thing and suffer
[01:59] <erisco> both you and Stroganoff are out to lunch
[01:59] <zcat[1]> btw I would like an answer also... the transition effects in OOo suck and I've never got them to work smoothly
[01:59] <winterwolf> Maybe this can help....This is what I get when i typed that, amenado .   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6313/
[02:00] <amenado> erisco you dont comprehend user interface, you expect the crowd to understand your  presentation?
[02:00] <Nineaxis> What's the difference between the "live installer" and "alternate desktop"?
[02:00] <nikrud> amenado that wasn't exactly kind
[02:00] <DOOM_NX> can anybody suggest the best DC client for ubuntu?
[02:01] <erisco> nikrud, its fine, I have no idea what he is talking about
[02:01] <saikor> Stroganoff: cat /proc/meminfo might be better for you.
[02:01] <amenado> nikrud am crude sometimes, im trying to get a point across
[02:01] <MatBoy> it seems that gnome-compiz is a needed package in default gnome
[02:01] <valros> is there a terminal command, sudo cd + <directory in current folder>
[02:01] <valros> or such
[02:01] <erisco> valros, how do you mean?
[02:01] <Nineaxis> ...what's the difference between the live cd and alternate desktop cd?
[02:01] <amenado> winterwolf-> you have like synaptic running at same time? or other dpkg or apt-get  running?
[02:02] <Daisuke_Ido> one's live, one's just an installer
[02:02] <valros> well, cd - goes back one i want to go forward one, not go back and type the whole link
[02:02] <osenvironment> !alternate > Nineaxis
[02:02] <nikrud> Nineaxis live cd can boot into a graphical desktop, and install. Alternate is installer only, text based, but installs on more hardware
[02:02] <erisco> valros, cd directory_name
[02:02] <prohna> Hello!
[02:02] <zx-sanji> valros  type dir
[02:02] <erisco> valros, you are perhaps doing cd /directory_name, which starts back at root
[02:02] <valros> ya
[02:02] <prohna> im having an issue getting anything to transfer songs to my ipod
[02:02] <Nineaxis> What would I use on a server?
[02:02] <valros> so just type tje directory?
[02:02] <Nineaxis> ALternate?
[02:02] <prohna> ive tried gtkpod amarok banshee
[02:03] <valros> type*
[02:03] <erisco> valros, okay, so don't use an absolute path, use a relative path ;)
[02:03] <eddyMul>  I'm running kvm/qemu under Ubuntu Gutsy. Is this the right place to ask for help w.r.t. user-mode DNS server (at <IP_ADDRESS>) failing to resolve IPs?
[02:03] <nikrud> prohna an newer classic or 3g nano?
[02:03] <prohna> they all say theyre transfering but the ipod doesnt see any songs
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> !enter | prohna
[02:03] <zx-sanji> valros   you need to understant the topology of file folders a bit ..
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> eh, ubotu is dead
[02:03] <valros> i probably do
[02:03] <prohna> nikrud: newer
[02:03] <osenvironment> how come
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> prohna: is it a really new ipod?
[02:03] <prohna> yes
[02:03] <prohna> just bought it today
[02:03] <zx-sanji> valros   what you are trying to open ?
[02:03] <prohna> 80gb video
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> is it a touch?
[02:03] <nikrud> prohna apple changed stuff out from under you, when hardy is released it will support them
[02:03] <prohna> not a touch
[02:03] <erisco> valros, if the directory you are in no contains the folder "foo", then cd foo will change to that folder
[02:04] <nathan42100> hey, ummmm, I used to be able to mount my NTFS-3G drives, now I can't. No error or anything. Checked the log, nothing there either. I just updated something a few hours ago, but I don't remember what. I can't find it in the logs
[02:04] <valros> oh just installing alsa, is there an apt-get alsa package?
[02:04] <amenado> eddyMul-> possibly, doesnt kvm/qemu runs a name server ?
[02:04] <erisco> valros, and you can know what is in the current directory by typing ls
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> prohna: it depends on how long its been sitting on the shelf, wether it will work or not
[02:04] <brambo_> Sorry, I got disconnected, I dont know if anyone got what i said before... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6313/ what did i do wrong here?
[02:04] <Erickj92> how do i get unreal ircd?
[02:04] <prohna> IndyGunFreak: how is that?
[02:04] <amenado> brambo_-> description of problem?
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> prohna: apple changed the really new ones, so they don't wrk very well w/ linux.(but will when ubuntu hardy is released next month)
[02:05] <brambo_> amenado: I typed what you put for me about the Java, and that is what I get here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6313/  in my terminal
[02:05] <eddyMul> amenado: yes, qemu runs a name server. however, this name server is not resolving my vm's DNS requests (tested from fedora 8 guest and winxp guest)
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> prohna: i have a 4gig nano, and 30gig video, they work fine
[02:05] <saikor> brambo_:  looks like you've got synaptic open. Which is locking it
[02:05] <nathan42100> !mount
[02:05] <amenado> brambo_-> you have like synaptic running at same time? or other dpkg or apt-get  running?
[02:05] <user1> Than you SurvivorMan that fixed it
[02:05] <nathan42100> hey, ummmm, I used to be able to mount my NTFS-3G drives, now I can't. No error or anything. Checked the log, nothing there either. I just updated something a few hours ago, but I don't remember what. I can't find it in the logs
[02:05] <brambo_> saikor: I closed synaptic...wait I'll try again
[02:06] <Jordan_U> nathan42100, What are you doing to try to mount them?
[02:06] <nathan42100> just double clicking on them
[02:06] <nathan42100> it asks for the pass, I put it in
[02:06] <amenado> eddyMul-> is qemu name server getting a feed from a real name server?
[02:06] <prohna> stupid apple
[02:06] <nathan42100> and then it takes me to /
[02:06] <brambo_> saikor: ok I have closed it but now I am getting a different message,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6314/
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> prohna: funny thing is, microsoft players work under Linux w/o issue..lol
[02:07] <Ava-> is the prefix still /usr on hardy and gutsy?
[02:07] <Ava-> someone please flippin answer me
[02:07] <jjt009> hey dudes
[02:07] <prohna> so anyone got an idea how to rig it to work for now?
[02:07] <jjt009> is this the IRC channel with the largest number of members?
[02:07] <amenado> eddyMul-> rather it should just resolve the vm  local ip addresses and pass on along to real name servers for resolving addresses like www.yahoo.com
[02:07] <nikrud> brambo_ you running 64bit? if so, sun never made a 64bit browser plugin
[02:07] <Jordan_U> nathan42100, Are you a member of the 'fuse' group and can you pastebin the output of "mount" ?
[02:07] <prohna> its weird because if i open the ipod in amarok or something i can see the songs
[02:07] <prohna> but just cant on the actual ipod
[02:08] <Ava-> ??!?!?!
[02:08] <jjt009> 1178 people..whoah
[02:08] <brambo_> nikrud:  yes I am on 64bit....So I cannot ever use that plugin ?
[02:08] <eddyMul> amenado: so, it looks like qemu's dns server is not passing the vm's dns requests to my dns server....
[02:08] <kelvin911> do i need a firewall?
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> prohna: don't know.
[02:08] <nikrud> prohna yeah, the linux stuff broke the database
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> kelvin911: don't know, do you?
[02:08] <Jordan_U> !ipod | prohna
[02:08] <nathan42100> jordan_u, just "mount" and no, not fuse
[02:08] <kelvin911> i dont know
[02:08] <saikor> brambo_: I'm sorry I haven't read your original problem. Have you tried installing sun-java5-plugin through synaptic?
[02:08] <anteaya> amenado: I followed your instructions which got the PATH in the $PATH, but the gem is still not working for me http://pastie.caboo.se/173507
[02:08] <godlygeek> can uswsusp be made to work with a swap file, rather than partition, in gutsy?
[02:08] <kelvin911> i am not running any firewall or anti-virus here
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> Jordan_U: i think ubotu is on break
[02:08] <valros> i got this error again, what package is needed i forgot, error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:08] <kelvin911> am i okay?
[02:08] <amenado> eddyMul-> if your guest cant resolve an ip address of www.yahoo.com yeah..its not passing it
[02:09] <brambo_> saikor: I think I have but one minute, I will double check
[02:09] <anteaya> amenado: a realize the gems is not an ubuntu area of expertise
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> kelvin911: most likely you're fine...
[02:09] <prohna> broke the database as in?
[02:09] <Jordan_U> IndyGunFreak, ubotwo as well :(
[02:09] <nikrud> Ava- the question is not very complete. /usr will be around as long as unix is
[02:09] <prohna> would syncing it up with a windows box fix it for now?
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> Jordan_U: slackers..lol
[02:09] <nikrud> prohna yes.
[02:09] <anteaya> amenado: but i though i would get back to you
[02:09] <amenado> anteaya-> all you asked earlier is how to add  a PATH at logon noh? or available on all your windows?
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> prohna: should
[02:09] <anteaya> amenado: yes that is true
[02:09] <prohna> okay question then
[02:09] <prohna> can itunes be run under wine?
[02:09] <nikrud> prohna no :)
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> prohna: no
[02:10] <anteaya> amenado; and thank you
[02:10] <tifine> i want to give the fix ip address to pc so that no body else can get that ip is it possible ?
[02:10] <prohna> dang
[02:10] <osenvironment> ahhh,
[02:10] <prohna> its like the worlds out to get me lol
[02:10] <brambo_> saikor: sun java 5 jdk fonts demo doc ? or just all of it?
[02:10] <Jordan_U> prohna, There is a way to get new ipods to work with amarok, let me find the link
[02:10] <amenado> anteaya-> so you got the PATH okay?  gem is a different problem right?
[02:10] <nikrud> prohna you can wait 3 weeks, right?
[02:10] <prohna> i guess
[02:10] <Ava-> nikrud: for feisty I always hade to ./configure --prefix=/usr because of where feisty stored it's stuff
[02:10] <osenvironment> today is april fool day,and i was fooled by google
[02:10] <IndyGunFreak> prohna: na, you just need to exchange your ipod for a zune...lol
[02:10] <prohna> sucks though
[02:10] <Nineaxis> How do you start the ubuntu installer in text based fedora?
[02:10] <Ava-> just wondered if that has changed with gutsy and hardy
[02:10] <anteaya> amenado: you are correct and thank you
[02:10] <nikrud> Ava- yes. That is standard for all unix's, will never change.
[02:10] <valros> i got this error again, what package is needed i forgot, error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:10] <amenado> anteaya-> Make sure you have the 'universe' component enabled <-- clue
[02:11] <Jordan_U> Nineaxis, Can you please be more clear?
[02:11] <nathan42100> Jordan_u, just "mount" and no, not fuse
[02:11] <Ava-> nikrud: some distros are /usr/local
[02:11] <nikrud> Ava- and you an use  /usr/local for locally compiled stuff, I always do
[02:11] <Ava-> aren't they?
[02:11] <trey__> saikor... hanging in there? im still trying to open restricted drivers (installing somthin for that now...) do you remember me?
[02:11] <anteaya> amenado: i thank you i will look
[02:11] <Erickj92> i cant connect to any IRC network on my Ubuntu machine, what could be going on?
[02:11] <saikor> trey__: yeah :)
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> Erickj92: does it have internet access?
[02:11] <Ava-> for feisty when I installed mythtv I always had to --prefix=/usr or it wouldn't work
[02:11] <Ava-> and find it's libs
[02:11] <brambo_> saikor: should I get Java 5 or 6? I see both
[02:11] <Nineaxis> Jordan- I have the ubuntu alternate desktop installer on a cd, in my server currently running Fedora 8, and being a linux n00b, I don't know how to start it
[02:11] <Erickj92> IndyGunFreak, yes.. i get connection refused when i try to connect to one
[02:11] <nikrud> Ava- the idea is /usr  is for packaged up stuff. /usr/local is where you put your own stuff. /usr/local/lib should be fine
[02:11] <saikor> brambo_: personally I'd go for 6
[02:12] <trey__> saikor: good didnt want to run through every thing again! LOL! ;)
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> Erickj92: do you ahve a firewall that could be not allowing it to run?
[02:12] <Erickj92> IndyGunFreak, i have a firewall, but i thought i disabled it
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> Erickj92: software or hardware?
[02:12] <brambo_> saikor: 5 and 6,  6 is just an updated version?
[02:12] <Erickj92> IndyGunFreak, software, and a linksys router
[02:12] <nikrud> Ava- ah, /etc/ld.conf.d/glibc should have /usr/local/lib in it, which makes libs in /usr/local/lib available
[02:13] <saikor> brambo_: yeah
[02:13] <Erickj92> IndyGunFreak, it has worked before
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> Erickj92: i'm guessing that software router is causing your issue.
[02:13] <Erickj92> IndyGunFreak, software router?
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> *software firewall..
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> my bad
[02:13] <Erickj92> oh, ok
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> tired
[02:13] <Erickj92> IndyGunFreak, i have firestarter
[02:13] <brambo_> saikor: once I get this, should firefox realize its there and use it to run certain things?
[02:14] <nathan42100> hey, ummmm, I used to be able to mount my NTFS-3G drives, now I can't. No error or anything. Checked the log, nothing there either. I just updated something a few hours ago, either libc6 or libpq5.
[02:14] <brambo_> saikor: for the sites that it will work with
[02:14] <Merevaik> Ok I gtg, thanks anyway EzraEzra
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> Erickj92: i know nothing about linux s/w firewalls, but i'm guesing thats where your issue is gonna be
[02:14] <Erickj92> IndyGunFreak, that fixed it :)
[02:14] <Erickj92> thank you
[02:14] <nikrud> nathan42100 after upgrading libc6 it's usually good to reboot. Have you done that?
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> Erickj92: i figured
[02:14] <Ava-> is there anyway to force a reinstall of hardy?
[02:14] <Ava-> my gdm is running so slow it's unusuable
[02:14] <nathan42100> nikrud, yeah
[02:14] <saikor> saikor: it should work. If it doesn't firefox should popup and ask you to install plugins. Then just select java 6 plugin and it will work fine.
[02:14] <Ava-> and i've tried 2 different nvidia drivers thinking thatmight be the problem
[02:14] <nikrud> Ava- a fresh install is a forced install
[02:15] <nathan42100> though it should tell you that, especially for the newbs like me
[02:15] <Ava-> I have no blank cd's and I only have inet
[02:15] <saikor> brambo: it should work. If it doesn't firefox should popup and ask you to install plugins. Then just select java 6 plugin and it will work fine.
[02:15] <kartMMAn> m
[02:15] <nikrud> nathan42100   tail -f /var/log/syslog , you should see some messages when you doubleclick and enter your password
[02:15] <Ava-> and I won't wanna lose a lot of what I have on this hard drive
[02:15] <nikrud> nathan42100 that is, type the /var/log/syslog
[02:15] <erisco> why is open office so slow?!?!?!?!?!
[02:15] <brambo_> saikor: i caught what ya said, its ok u didnt have to repeat it ;)
[02:15] <ross`_> hey, i can keep hitting back in shell and see all the way to my first command
[02:15] <erisco> it is taking an EON to save my three slide presentation!!!!
[02:15] <ross`_> im wondering what the file is
[02:15] <ross`_> so i can search it
[02:15] <nathan42100> nikrud, im confused, what?
[02:16] <ross`_> what file is all your commands you did saved in
[02:16] <valros> what package fixes this error, ive done it before but forgot, error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:16] <nikrud> Ava- you should backup, and on this install add a partition for /home  also, !clone below will help you with resetting packages
[02:16] <nikrud> !clone | Ava-
[02:16] <nikrud> nathan42100   :)   type   tail -f /var/log/syslog    in a terminal, it will echo any messages while you mount/unmount partitions
[02:16] <brambo_> is there any major reason why I should go to Hardy vs staying with Gutsy? I have some people telling my Hardy is better in ways
[02:16] <erisco> over two minutes so far and 75% complete saving a 3 slide presentation
[02:17] <erisco> does anyone else have MAJOR performance issues with open office??
[02:17]  * IndyGunFreak begins performing CPR on ubotu and ubotwo
[02:17] <nikrud> brambo_ it is, but it's still rough in spots. If you can't fix broken stuff, wait
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> erisco: no, it works great for me
[02:17] <VTBuc> hi does anyone here have experience with AbiWord in 8.04?
[02:17] <Colmena> hi
[02:17] <brambo_> nikrud: then I will wait, cause I'm still really new to linux in general
[02:17] <erisco> IndyGunFreak, all my animations are choppy as hell and take about 10 seconds to load
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> VTBuc: #ubunt+1 for hardy questions
[02:17] <nathan42100> nikrud: Mar 31 21:17:01 nsh-ubuntu /USR/SBIN/CRON[6830]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
[02:17] <nathan42100> thats it
[02:17] <nikrud> VTBuc #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release
[02:17] <VTBuc> ah thank you
[02:17] <ross`_> can someone tell me what the file is located to see al the commands as you have done? instead of hitting an arow key a million times to search for one? thank you
[02:17] <Colmena> i want to install my video nvidia 9600 gt
[02:18] <erisco> IndyGunFreak, and it takes me about 4 minutes to save... three slides...
[02:18] <Colmena> how?
[02:18] <bobsomebody> when i run gnome-panel-screenshot i get an error "cannot open display:" and i cant seem to find a solution to this problem :/
[02:18] <erisco> WHOA, they have 9000's?
[02:18] <nikrud> nathan42100 that's not the message I'm looking for. Could be hald is not running , type   sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[02:18] <erisco> am I that behind?
[02:18] <osenvironment> bash_history?
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> erisco: i don't know, i don't usually make slides with it, just write nasty letters to the editor, nasty letters tot he homeowners association, etc.
[02:18]  * nikrud never argues with nasty gun holders
[02:19] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:19] <nathan42100> nikrud: nope, still not mounting
[02:19] <nikrud> nathan42100 not sure what it is then. what is the partition you're looking at?
[02:19] <brambo_> saikor: have you received my private message?
[02:19] <saikor> brambo_:  no
[02:20] <nathan42100> nikrud: both the main partition on the primary and main on the secondary, Both NTFS. the dellutility partition still loads as normal, not NTFS
[02:20] <IndyGunFreak> brambo_: only registered users can send/receive pmS
[02:21] <erisco> I think open office has a memory leak with images
[02:21] <erisco> or something
[02:21] <nikrud> nathan42100 but what are the actual partition devices? /dev/sda1? or some other?  when you know, type   sudo mount /dev/<partition> /mnt  in a terminal, see what message you get
[02:21] <bruenig> erisco: java.
[02:21] <brambo_> saikor: I ran into a program in Synaptic while installing Java 6...This package is an installer package, it does not actually contrain the JDK documentation.  You will need to go download one of the archives:
[02:21] <erisco> bruenig, its java? should have guessed
[02:21] <trey__> saikor, looks like i have to reboot now hold on...
[02:21] <erisco> why do I have HUGE performance issues with java?
[02:21] <nathan42100> nikrud: how do I find that?
[02:21] <erisco> I cannot even run eclipse
[02:22] <nikrud> nathan42100   sudo fdisk -l
[02:22] <brambo_> saikor: says press return to try again i do and it doesnt work
[02:22] <bruenig> erisco: because java is awful
[02:22] <erisco> it freaking locks and hangs and takes 10 seconds to do a simple text insertion
[02:22] <nikrud> erisco you did   sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre  ?
[02:22] <erisco> nikrud, if I didn't have that, I wouldn't be using java
[02:22] <prohna> can i upgrade to hardy now?
[02:22] <nikrud> bruenig personal opinions don't belong here ;)
[02:22] <bruenig> fact
[02:22] <erisco> something is fishy
[02:22] <nikrud> erisco could have got java another way
[02:22] <encryptz> prohna: if you want
[02:23] <brambo_> nikrud: I have done it through Synaptic, not sure who you are talking to there sorry
[02:23] <prohna> encryptz: is it stable?
[02:23] <erisco> something is terribly, terribly broken with my java
[02:23] <encryptz> prohna: some would say yes. others would disagree
[02:23] <nathan42100> nikrud: how do I force it
[02:23] <nathan42100> it says unclean shutdown
[02:23] <erisco> my computer's specs are fine... but everything java preforms like crap
[02:23] <nikrud> nathan42100 ah!!!.  Best way is to boot it into windows, let windows fix it
[02:23] <nathan42100> nikrud: usually it gives me an error. I'm guessing that why
[02:23] <nathan42100> how do I force it though?
[02:23] <erisco> my memory instantly maxes out, and the application gets slower and slower
[02:24] <erisco> whenever I run an app gui
[02:24] <nathan42100> nikrud: -F?
[02:24] <erisco> java gui*
[02:24] <linxeh> erisco: what applications, how much memory, what jvm, etc
[02:24] <erisco> linxeh, eclipse, open office presentation, 1GB of memory
[02:25] <saikor> brambo_/winterwolf:  tried ' sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin'
[02:25] <saikor> ?
[02:25] <erisco> linxeh, how do I check my jvm, I believe I have more than one installed...
[02:25] <nathan42100> nikrud: =o....I just tried to force it and it disappeared...
[02:25] <nikrud> nathan42100 I'm not sure, I've never used it. NTFS is windows secret code, and all the stuff in linux is enlightened guesswork. I let windows fix windows stuff.
[02:25] <winterwolf> saikor: I tryed through Synaptic and terminal like you just typed,
[02:25] <saikor> and it failed?
[02:26] <nathan42100> nikrud: for future reference it is -o force. Im gunna restart again, and HOPE it comes back.
[02:26] <erisco> and when I exit a java app that is running really, really slowly, you can instantly hear my hard drive going like mad
[02:26] <nikrud> nathan42100 neener neener (with ears plugged and eyes covered ;)
[02:26] <trey> saikor: well restricted drivers opened... now what?
[02:26] <erisco> perhaps it is because it is discarding the memory in the swap space
[02:26] <erisco> as it does start overflowing...
[02:26] <linxeh> erisco: java -version ?  other than that you need to look at your operating system software management tools (control panel, synaptic, system preferences/applications, etc)
[02:26] <nathan42100> nikrud: that doesn't help your nose....
[02:26] <winterwolf> I keep getting disconnected..
[02:26] <nathan42100> brb
[02:27] <linxeh> erisco: your machine has no way near enough ram. Open office is a hog, eclipse is a hog
[02:27] <erisco> linxeh, Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.6.0_03-b05, mixed mode)
[02:27] <TantorCFSJA> Quick question on Ubuntu Beta... on screen refresh rate reporting..
[02:27] <linxeh> erisco: what operating system is it ?
[02:27] <saikor> trey:  what do you see in there?
[02:27] <Flannel> TantorCFSJA: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support, thanks
[02:27] <soto> What's the environment variable for library paths?
[02:27] <erisco> linxeh, this would be #ubuntu...
[02:27] <TantorCFSJA> K ty
[02:27] <trey> saikor: well... i see a light... hold on lol
[02:28] <linxeh> erisco: yes, but that doesnt mean you are using it, or which release, window manager etc (but ok, I thought this was ##java for a minute)
[02:28] <erisco> linxeh, Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_03-b05)
[02:28] <nikrud> erisco I agree on the memory thing, I ended up getting 2gb to run eclipse and open office at the same time
[02:28] <linxeh> erisco: why are you running 64bit with only 1GB ram?
[02:28] <winterwolf> saikor: it ran into a problem while installing  sun-java6-doc
[02:28] <fany> hay.......
[02:28] <erisco> linxeh, I didn't realize 64 bit meant you had to have more ram...
[02:28] <linxeh> you should only be considering 64bit really if you have >2GB RAM - otherwise its just causing problems for yourself
[02:29] <erisco> linxeh, why?
[02:29] <valros> on the gnome upper bar, do the bars accurately depict wireless conenction?
[02:29] <saikor> winterwolf: oh? do you need the docs?
[02:29] <erisco> linxeh, I have never heard of this kind of relation before
[02:29] <linxeh> erisco: it doesnt - its just there is no real advantage till you get to 2+GB, and below that you have pain because loads of software still isnt 64bit, primarily commercial stuff. plus until recently suns 64bit linux jvm was incomplete (maybe it still is, java plugin etc)
[02:29] <winterwolf> saikor: I dont think so but how do I skip that part?
[02:30] <erisco> linxeh, I have a 32bit browser, that is fine. other than that all the software runs fine
[02:30] <TizzleV> Can anyone help me repair an XFS superblock?
[02:30] <saikor> winterwolf: is it just the sun-java6-plugin you are installing?
[02:30] <linxeh> erisco: ok :)
[02:30] <nathan42100> nikrud:works now, no windows
[02:30] <saikor> winterwolf: also, what error are you getting installing the docs?
[02:30] <nathan42100> :-p
[02:30] <linxeh> erisco: regardless, you need more ram :)
[02:30] <erisco> linxeh, I do a lot of crap on this computer, and I wasn't really interested in wasting 3/4 of my processor power
[02:30] <linxeh> erisco: you could try running fluxbox / xfce4 to reduce your ram usage though
[02:30] <erisco> linxeh, I don't think I should. if java really takes that much ram it is utterly useless
[02:31] <linxeh> erisco: you wont waste any processing power really
[02:31] <trey> saikor: do you mind me sending you a screenshot?
[02:31] <saikor> trey: go for it.
[02:31] <winterwolf> saikor: Its hard to explain, can I message you via another program and send you a screenshot?
[02:31] <sk8ball> how can i get X back to the original configuration that ubuntu detected on its own?
[02:32] <linxeh> erisco: ok, fair enough, but Gnome etc is eating loads of that ram up already. openoffice just hogs memory big time, and so does eclipse. it's not java so much, just the way those apps are written (or in the case of eclipse, just how rich it is)
[02:32] <saikor> errr you could delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf (MAKE A BACKUP)
[02:32] <trey> saikor: did you get it?
[02:32] <winterwolf> saikor: brb
[02:32] <saikor> trey: no
[02:32] <erisco> linxeh, well, then I need more ram
[02:33] <erisco> linxeh, but that isn't going to happen for a long time :P
[02:33] <valros> Hey guys, heres a good question, on xp, firefox has google as its default engine if it cant find what you typed in the address bar, here on ubuntu, it goes straight to yahoo, can this be fixed
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> erisco: what kind of Ram does it take?
[02:33] <nikrud> nathan42100 you lucky guy, you :)
[02:33] <nathan42100> :-D
[02:33] <nathan42100> c ya
[02:33] <erisco> IndyGunFreak, DDR2, but I am not buying ram chips
[02:33] <nathan42100> usually forcing it work
[02:33] <nathan42100> s
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[02:34] <nathan42100> I hope 8.04 will fix a lot of this stuff
[02:34] <linxeh> erisco: you might find that 32bit ubuntu is more conservative on memory too
[02:34] <trey> saikor: if you didnt get it now pm me you im (if you have one)
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> erisco: ohw much ram do you have?
[02:34] <erisco> IndyGunFreak, 1GB
[02:34] <pat5star> valros: i haven't looked, but can't you change that under edit -> preferences?
[02:34] <Aval0n> guys I upgraded to hardy and ever since when I log in it's DRAGS if I click to move a window it freezes
[02:34] <kousotu> Anyone know how to make an ipod work on Ubuntu?
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> i would think thats plenty, even for OO.o to make slides
[02:34] <linxeh> given the price of ram these days it seems barmy to have less than 2GB :o
[02:34] <Aval0n> I've tried 2 differet nvidia drivers
[02:34] <linxeh> IndyGunFreak: he's running eclipse alongside it
[02:35] <Aval0n> anyone have any suggestions?
[02:35] <bazhang> Aval0n: #ubuntu+1 please
[02:35] <nikrud> Aval0n yes, ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:35] <erisco> IndyGunFreak, I would think it is plenty too. it starts off fine, but the more I run the slide show, the more it bogs down
[02:35] <valros> ok, ill look in it, i wondered why the preferences moved under the edit menu in linux where as in windows its under tools, is it like a linux standard?
[02:35] <sk8ball> saikor, how do i do it... i dont have correct permissions
[02:35] <erisco> it spells memory leak to me.
[02:35] <kousotu> Aval0n: what's the problem you're having
[02:35] <Aval0n> ok ty
[02:35] <kousotu> ?
[02:35] <saikor> trey: did my pm get through?
[02:35] <erisco> I think I have a bad jvm
[02:35] <sanguisdex> so had installed send mail on to my machine for some software testing and when I removed it I stopped being able to get my IMAP mail.  (it just asked and asks for the password, that remains unchanged) Do you think that the package manager removed some necessary library package?
[02:35] <trey> avalon go to #ubuntu+1 for that
[02:35] <saikor> put sudo in front of your command.
[02:35] <trey> saikor: no
[02:35] <saikor> sk8ball: ^
[02:36] <psycholvlan> what is the package that you have to install to get advanced desktop appearance?
[02:36] <bazhang> kousotu: the latest iPod need libgpod 0.6.0; you can compile for gutsy or just wait for the next release when it will be included (next release in about 3 weeks)
[02:36] <psycholvlan> effects*
[02:36] <bazhang> psycholvlan: ccsm
[02:36] <linxeh> has anyone installed Ubuntu on a mac pro ?
[02:36] <kousotu> bazhang: it's going to be preinstalled with Hardy even with an update from Gutsy?
[02:36] <saikor> anyone know why I can't seem to PM?
[02:36] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro linxeh
[02:37] <alteregoa> example content?
[02:37] <epitron> what's the name of that sun dtrace clone that redhat made? i'm having a strange problem with fontconfig not being able to write cache files
[02:37] <kousotu> saikor: you're not registered?
[02:37] <linxeh> bazhang: mac pro...
[02:37] <alteregoa> !pack example-content
[02:37] <epitron> strace isn't being very helpful
[02:37] <bazhang> kousotu: the next release will have it
[02:37] <psycholvlan> bazhang what's the exact name
[02:37] <kousotu> bazhang: it's an OLD shuffle
[02:37] <bazhang> linxeh: oops
[02:37] <linxeh> bazhang: :)
[02:37] <sanguisdex> saikor: have you registerd your user name/
[02:37] <saikor> kousotu: I registered the name.
[02:37] <sanguisdex> \?
[02:37] <sanguisdex> ?
[02:37] <saikor> yeah
[02:37] <bazhang> !ccsm | psycholvlan
[02:37] <kousotu> saikor: no idea then
[02:37] <kousotu> lol
[02:37] <saikor> is there a command I need to send to 'login'[?
[02:37] <bazhang> the bot is down?
[02:38] <bazhang> http://macprolinux.blogspot.com/2007/10/installing-ubuntu-710-gutsy-on-mac-pro.html linxeh
[02:38] <psycholvlan> i know it has manager in it
[02:38] <Lifeisfunny> Does anyone know how to make the desktop icons visible in the menu 'Places/Desktop' while removing them from the actual desktop?
[02:39] <kelvin911> anyone heard of Yodm3D ??
[02:39] <psycholvlan> i've had linux uninstalled for a couple weeks... now i got a laptop
[02:39] <bazhang> compizconfig-settings-manager psycholvlan
[02:39] <psycholvlan> ty
[02:39] <sk8ball> saikor, didnt work
[02:39] <bazhang> np
[02:39] <kelvin911> is it windows software trying to copy compiz-fusion ?
[02:39] <trey> saikor: did you get MY pm?
[02:39] <saikor> trey:sadly not
[02:39] <sk8ball> its going back to something even more limited =/
[02:39] <epitron> ubuntu's supposed to work properly with reiserfs, right?
[02:39] <trey> saikor :..(
[02:40] <bazhang> ext3 would be better imo epitron
[02:40] <Azur3> hello, I'm running 7.10 and using a direct cable connection to my router. I can't get my wireless adapter to work when I do lspci it says Atheros AR5006EG
[02:40] <epitron> bazhang: why do you say that? :)
[02:40] <sk8ball> i just want to return to the config ubuntu setup created
[02:40]  * trey flings his machine out the window!
[02:40] <saikor> sk8ball: ok try going to screen and graphics in system -> admin
[02:40] <sanguisdex> so I had installed send mail on to my machine for some software testing and when I removed it I stopped being able to get my IMAP mail.  (it just asked and asks for the password, that remains unchanged) Do you think that the package manager removed some necessary library package?
[02:40] <saikor> trey/winterwolf: email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:41] <sk8ball> saikor, been there thats where i fucked it up now im trying to put it back to the settings that were there when i started and its just not working
[02:41] <trey> saikor: this is your im?
[02:41] <bazhang> epitron: you can use reiserfs really up to you; the future of reiserfs is uncertain at this point
[02:41] <saikor> sk8ball: ohhh
[02:41] <sk8ball> i am selecting what was there before but its giving me diff res/refresh rates
[02:41] <laughzilla> hi :) does anyone know how to solve the Grub Loader Error 17 (doesn't recognize or see the required partition of the os) ? i have some bits of data i wanna copy from that drive .... can i copy my data if i mount my dysfunctional ubuntu hdd as a slave on another box, ie: a slack 10 box ?
[02:41] <saikor> trey: no
[02:41] <epitron> bazhang: yeah, i know. :) i'll switch when ZFS comes out ;)
[02:41] <bazhang> language sk8ball
[02:41] <trey> saikor: email?
[02:41] <sk8ball> baz, lociento
[02:42] <LjL> lo siento
[02:42] <bazhang> no cursing sk8ball
[02:42] <valros> gotta love ubuntus load/unload times :)
[02:42] <saikor> sk8ball: look in the /etc/X11 folder, there should be a backup in there
[02:42] <epitron> bazhang: reiser really performs better with tons of tiny files i find... and it's quite stable
[02:42] <saikor>  trey: yeah, then I'll give you my im
[02:42] <sk8ball> saikor, thats what i thought xorg.conf.1
[02:42] <trey> saikor: kk
[02:42] <sk8ball> but that doesnt seem to be it
[02:42] <epitron> bazhang: (the filesystem, not the author)
[02:43] <Colmena> how I can to install Linux_x86_Display_GeForce_9600_GT.run ?
[02:43] <saikor> sk8ball: cp the backup to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:43] <trey> saikor: to thunderbird and beond!!!!!!
[02:43] <sk8ball> saikor, i cp'd the xorg.conf.1 to it, i figured this was it as there was like 3 of em, and i thought the other ones were my other attempts at fixing it
[02:44] <LadyNikon> hey.. I am trying to change the colors for my vim.  Anyone know where they are stored? /usr/share/vim/vim71/colors doesnt have the color that is default in vim
[02:44] <linxeh> bazhang: thanks - I've been searching for a while but haven't hit that one
[02:44] <saikor> sk8ball: log out then back in? did that work?
[02:44] <Lifeisfunny> I've tried to be as nice and peaches but from the impression of things I must have wronged someone here.
[02:45] <trey> saikor: i emailed you...
[02:45] <saikor> trey: replied
[02:45] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3518911&postcount=9 laughzilla
[02:45] <trey> saikor, kk
[02:47] <laughzilla> thx bazhang :)
[02:47] <test_> so how many people have actually been capable of setting up a fully functioning SLI system so far?
[02:47] <trey> saikor got it!
[02:47] <Azur3> bazhang: hey, this is Azure Tide from yesterday, I'm running 7.10 smoothly on my laptop now, I usedd the terminal to run that lspci thing you said yesterday
[02:47]  * trey downloads im client...
[02:47] <Azur3> bazhang: and it says Atheros AR5006EG
[02:48] <bazhang> http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=607385 test_
[02:48]  * trey just relized that pigin is an im client..... :\
[02:48] <test_> thanks bazhang
[02:48] <bazhang> Azur3: you wired? and want to get wireless going?
[02:49] <Azur3> bazhang: yes sir
[02:49] <Silvanov> is there any programs similar to webmin that are reccomended for ubuntu server for 8.04
[02:49] <Groty> Hello, I have a question about Chat Clients/SMS clients
[02:49] <bazhang> Azur3: open a terminal and see if ifconfig shows more than eth0 and lo (ie ath0 or the like)
[02:50] <bazhang> ask away Groty; if someone knows they will answer
[02:50] <Groty> Thank bazhang
[02:50] <bazhang> Silvanov: ebox
[02:50] <bazhang> ubotu?
[02:51] <bazhang> !test
[02:51] <Azur3> bazhang: it only has those two, but there are alot of lines for them
[02:51] <Silvanov> i just checked out ebox, but it doesnt do apache config/admin
[02:51] <Groty> So, I've used Yahoo IM for years for work.  I've become addicted to the SMS client in the newer versions, so much better than sending a text through my phone.  I've noticed Pidgin doesn't support the feature and the latest versions of YIM don't work in Wine.  Is there another option?
[02:51] <trey> saikor: it says your offline...
[02:52] <K_Nine> Does anyone know of a graphical converter to change .avi files to .amv files for my mp4 player?
[02:52] <saikor> trey: shd have authorized now.
[02:52] <Azur3> Groty: I google searched sms client and linux and it gave me http://smsclient.org
[02:53] <Silvanov> Groty: theres a *nix version of yahoo IM http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php not sure if it supports the features you want though
[02:53] <linxeh> bazhang: is there an ebox package for ubuntu?
[02:53] <AdrianStrays> How can I add the computer/trash/home folder to the desktop?
[02:53] <trey> saikor: kk
[02:53] <Silvanov> linxeh, you can apt-get install it
[02:53] <linxeh> Silvanov: hmm, I guess not on some versions of ubuntu then :o
[02:54] <RickX> anyone know how I can get a main menu or application menu when I right click on the desktop?
[02:54] <Groty> Silvanov - Thx, that requires a provider - Yahoo has it's own
[02:54] <adrock358> Ok.  I had a dual install (win/ubunt).  I was having problems getting on the net and decided it would be better to just do a fresh install.  So, I erased the partition that ubuntu was installed on (on my WD 320 gb HD).  At the same time, I decided to increase my Windows Partition size, so I did that using Gparted.  I repartitioned the unallocated space, that partly housed my past Ubuntu installation.  So, I erased the Ubuntu partition from my singular HD,
[02:55] <Pelo> RickX,  I know it can be done in xcfe but I don'T know if you can do it in gnome
[02:55] <bazhang> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/web/ebox linxeh
[02:55] <isforinsects> RickX: you can do gnome+enlightenment
[02:55] <RickX> Pelo, thanks. It can easily be done in almost any window manager, or environment.
[02:55] <pat5star> adrock358: you sure there isn't a shorter way to ask your question? :)
[02:56] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=691992 Groty you  might look here too
[02:56] <RickX> isforinsects, how different than metacity is that?
[02:56] <akreao> Can someone tell me how to use Emerald?
[02:56] <adrock358> pat5star.  Yes.  I am sure.
[02:56] <Pelo> akreao, ask in #compiz
[02:56] <akreao> Alright.
[02:56] <pat5star> adrock358: well, i think the end got cut off
[02:56] <bazhang> adrock358: got a question in there?
[02:56] <linxeh> bazhang: I'm on feisty still
[02:56] <isforinsects> RickX: not sure
[02:57] <RickX> ... or, can I run WindowMaker as the window manger in Gnome?
[02:57]  * Pelo read widowMaker
[02:57] <linxeh> bazhang: I guess I should get around to reiinstalling the box
[02:57] <adrock358> bazhang, pat5star.  You really don't get what I am asking?  Damn...I must be off my game..
[02:57] <isforinsects> RickX: windowmaker with gnome services, yes I think
[02:58] <Groty> bazhang - thanks I'll dig on the
[02:58] <Groty> err dig on that
[02:58] <pat5star> adrock358: no, not even close, feel like someone ripped out the last half of a novel i was reading
[02:59] <RickX> isforinsects, is there a way I can get xdg-menu to build a main menu in window maker?
[02:59] <linxeh> !upgrade
[02:59] <linxeh> heh
[02:59] <Silvanov> lol @ pat5star
[02:59] <pat5star> adrock358: I'm not being smart either, just was following your post, but don't get the question you were getting too
[02:59] <raiden> hi people
[02:59] <Pelo> RickX, this channel usualy deals with installation issue, basic troubleshooting and noob introductions
[02:59] <bazhang> linxeh: then no ebox in feisty from a search of packages.ubuntu.com that I can see
[02:59] <raiden> hola
[03:00] <linxeh> bazhang: yeah :( I'll upgrade the distro I guess
[03:00] <flyback> raiden
[03:00] <Pelo> !hi | raiden
[03:00] <raiden> sup ?
[03:00] <flyback> #carnage raiden?
[03:00] <isforinsects> I was trying to play with aircrack lastnight.  I think I killed my rt2500 wireless module. is there a trivial way to revert back to stock networking settings/module?
[03:00] <Azur3> bazhang: so i only have Eth0 and Lo in the ifconfig
[03:00] <Groty> One other thing, just upgraded to 8.04 on my lappy, noticed one thing - when on battery power, unchecking "Reduce backlight brightness" in Power Management Prefs isn't working.  It still dims and now I know how my grandparents feel when they try to read at night
[03:00] <flyback> back on efnet
[03:00] <bazhang> adrock358: your post was incomplete; cut off or something
[03:01] <raiden> i need feedback for my script
[03:01] <raiden> can any one give me feedback ?
[03:01] <linxeh> is there an easy way to upgrade to a new release ?
[03:01] <Pelo> Groty, for hardy info you need to go to #ubuntu+1
[03:01] <bazhang> linxeh: via the net sure
[03:01] <flyback> raiden are you the dude from efnet?
[03:01] <raiden> add/remove linuxeh
[03:01] <isforinsects> update-manager --dist-upgrade
[03:01] <Groty> gotch, thanks Pelo
[03:01] <raiden> no
[03:01] <flyback> ok sorry to bug you :P
[03:01] <raiden> am from linuxAC.org
[03:01] <Pelo> !upgrade | linxeh
[03:01] <linxeh> I'm remote from the machine atm, so don't really want to run X if I can help it
[03:02] <bazhang> the bot is sleeping
[03:02] <linxeh> Pelo: yeah, ubuto is AWOL :)
[03:02] <Pelo> bot dead again ?
[03:02] <isforinsects> linxeh: no wait...
[03:02] <raiden> how i can change my name ?
[03:02] <raiden> here
[03:02] <raiden> ?
[03:02] <linxeh> should I just edit the apt sources file ?
[03:02] <Pelo> raiden,  /nick newnick
[03:02] <raiden> ok thx
[03:02] <bazhang> raiden: /nick newnick
[03:02] <Pelo> linxeh, no
[03:02] <raiden> test
[03:02] <linxeh> ok :)
[03:02] <test_> yes?
[03:02] <isforinsects> linxeh: update-manager --??? something about new version or beta...
[03:03] <test_> =-)
[03:03] <Pelo> linxeh, check the forum for dist upgrade should be in there somewhere
[03:03] <linxeh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[03:03] <Scunizi> Does anyone have a link to a list of external compatable modems?
[03:03] <Pelo> linxeh, there you go
[03:03] <linxeh> its not trivial to find that page though
[03:03] <Djr4iden> ok
[03:03] <bazhang> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/upgrade-ubuntu-from-feisty-to-gutsy/ linxeh
[03:03] <Pelo> Scunizi, might be easier to search the forum for spefic models and see if anyone had problems
[03:04] <Flannel> !upgrade | linxeh
[03:04] <Scunizi> pelo k.
[03:04] <Djr4iden> http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4542/screenshot1vm0.png
[03:04] <RickX> Thanks
[03:04] <Pelo> Scunizi, also this  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:04] <Djr4iden> http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7117/screenshot2vj3.png
[03:04] <linxeh> bazhang: thanks
[03:04] <Flannel> linxeh, bazhang: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[03:04] <Pelo> Djr4iden, and those are for ?
[03:04] <Scunizi> Pelo.. thanks I forgot about that
[03:04] <bazhang> Flannel: I'm on Hardy ;]
[03:05] <Djr4iden> did any one saw that pic ?
[03:05] <Flannel> bazhang: Right, but give out wiki links when there is one
[03:05] <aas11> can someone tell me what's the best way to back up a bazaar repository?
[03:05] <Scunizi> Pelo, not overly updated.. only one listed :(.. I'll have to edit if I can get this one to work
[03:05] <bazhang> Flannel: you can if you wish to
[03:05] <Pelo> Djr4iden, what are those pics for ?
[03:05] <Djr4iden> my script
[03:05] <Pelo> Scunizi, you might also want to inqure in #hardware
[03:05] <akreao> How many people have bothered trying the Heron beta?
[03:06] <valros> man, just completely followed the hda intel alsa tutorials, no change
[03:06] <Djr4iden> http://www.flyupload.com/?fid=4774140
[03:06]  * linxeh wonders how practical remotely upgrading to gutsy is :D
[03:06] <Flannel> akreao: #ubuntu+1 for hardy questions
[03:06] <isforinsects> akreao: I
[03:06] <Djr4iden> i need feed back for it
[03:06] <Pelo> akreao, this is the "current" release channel you want #ubuntu+1 for ppl on the bleeding edge
[03:06] <Djr4iden> so
[03:06] <Djr4iden> wassss upppp
[03:06] <akreao> Okay then.
[03:06] <Pelo> linxeh, I like to dl the dvd and upgrade from that ,  upgrading online can take a long time
[03:07] <Pelo> Djr4iden, look for a channel for the scripting language you use
[03:07] <Pelo> linxeh, you can also do it from the alternate install cd , but not from the live cd
[03:07] <linxeh> Pelo: its a fairly fast connection the other end, and the machine is a 30 min drive away
[03:07] <Pelo> linxeh, nvm I thought y ou meant someting else
[03:07] <isforinsects> is there a way to reset my network settings back to stock?
[03:07] <linxeh> :o
[03:07]  * prohna_ is upgrading to hardy
[03:08] <bazhang> prohna_: tell it to #ubuntu+1 please
[03:08] <fade2black> hello i just installed ubuntu on a friends pc but its not loading music cds when i put them in the disc drive do i need to do anything special
[03:08]  * Pelo envies that prohna_ will be using gnome 2.22
[03:08] <bazhang> fade2black: loading the cds? is this a hardware issue--please be specific
[03:08] <Pelo> fade2black, menu > system > prefs > removable media , you probabaly need to tell it what to do with an audio cd
[03:09] <Djr4iden> so
[03:09] <LjL> !test
[03:09] <Djr4iden> echo $?
[03:09] <Djr4iden> 23
[03:09]  * Pelo thinks ljl is a failiure
[03:10] <bazhang> Djr4iden: is that a bash script?
[03:10] <Djr4iden> xD
[03:10] <fade2black> volume management not supported, the hald service is required but not currently running.
[03:10] <Djr4iden> yeah
[03:10] <bazhang> join #bash Djr4iden
[03:10] <fade2black> enable the service and rerun this application
[03:10] <Djr4iden> :)
[03:11] <bazhang> fade2black: this is gutsy?
[03:11] <fade2black> 7.10 yes
[03:11]  * nikrud is suprised there's no footprint on Pelo yest
[03:11] <epitron> hahah.. oh lord... fontconfig was broken because the file time on the font dirs was in the future..
[03:11] <isforinsects> ok, how about this: I can associate wireless, but I cant dhcp and my dmesg spits out packet info of trying to get to the ip's of my dns servers
[03:11] <epitron> that's ridickerous
[03:12] <Pelo> nikrud,  yest ?
[03:12] <bazhang> yeast
[03:12] <nikrud> Pelo couldn't decide between yesterday and yet
[03:12] <Empire666> is there a terminal command to stop/start sound?
[03:12] <furenku> hello!! i am about to buy a soundcard, and was wondering whether someone could point me to a card that works well with ubuntu studio (for pro audio)
[03:13] <Pelo> furenku, maybe the ppl in #hardware can inform you
[03:13] <impulze> hi there, i'm remotely administrating an ubuntu box and i wonder what i'd have to invoke to create an initramfs or -rd so that i can use a logical lvm volume as my / mountpoint
[03:13] <Azur3> bazhang: its only Eth0 and Lo when I use ifconfig
[03:13] <Empire666>  is there a terminal command to stop/start sound?
[03:14] <fade2black> bazhang do you know how to fix it
[03:14] <Pelo> Empire666, ctrl + M should mute the sound I think
[03:14] <bazhang> Azur3: is there a sticker on the bottom of the laptop?
[03:15] <Empire666> in the command line?
[03:15] <Azur3> bazhang, yes there are a few of them, is there somethig I need to look for?
[03:15] <Pelo> Empire666, it's just a keyboard shortcut
[03:15] <bazhang> AR5BXB63 Azur3? that one?
[03:15] <Empire666> ssh..ing
[03:16] <fade2black> bazhang k3b can see the cd but the system does not
[03:16] <Pelo> Empire666, I can't help then
[03:16] <Empire666> =/
[03:16] <bazhang> fade2black: you want to play the music, rip it or what?
[03:16] <fade2black> i want to be able to play and rip it
[03:16] <fade2black> but when i insert nothing
[03:16] <Empire666> would killing the soud daemon and starting work?
[03:16] <fade2black> happenes and i can only see it in kb3
[03:17] <Pelo> Empire666, try it , let us know
[03:17] <bazhang> fade2black: if k3b can see it, why not try ripping it?
[03:17] <Azur3> bazhang: i don't see that sticker on the bottom
[03:17] <koshea> hello, anyone have any idea why i have no window decorations when i turn on desktop effects?
[03:17] <bazhang> Azur3: what about lspci -nn what does that show--168c:001c?
[03:17] <fade2black> sound juicer cd extractor but does not see dvd drive
[03:18] <Pelo> koshea, yes,  decorator is not enable,    check in the advance effects settings
[03:18] <koshea> Pelo, already checked, its on
[03:18] <Flyerfye> okay
[03:18] <fade2black> any better program then that for ripping cds?
[03:18] <koshea> Pelo, its set to decoration windows: any
[03:19] <Pelo> koshea, try asking in #compiz , this is a knonw problem , there is an easy solution, I jus don't know it
[03:19] <dassouki> has anyone tried the "cheese" app yet?
[03:19] <Pelo> dassouki, ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:19] <dassouki> has anyone tried the "cheese" app yet? if so does it crash right away?
[03:19] <Azur3> bazhang: yes
[03:19] <dassouki> oooh k oops
[03:19] <Pelo> dassouki, ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:19] <rust> Can anybody see anything wrong with this command if it's running from cron:
[03:19] <rust> DISPLAY=:0.0 /usr/bin/notify-send Notify "Notified"
[03:19] <bazhang> Azur3: then that is the 5007 not the 5006 just a second
[03:19] <wynd> can the ubuntu install resize partitions without wiping the contents?
[03:20] <dassouki> gone to ubuntu-1 thanks Pelo
[03:20] <niuq> why i don't need to defrag a disk with ubuntu?
[03:20] <Flyerfye> so normally when I go to join a network, I click on the symbol and select the network I want to join and then it does its little thing and logs me in, well theres this one network, I click on it to log into it and when I click on it the network icon disappears.  Any ideas how to get the network icon back or at least where the control panel for the icon is?
[03:20] <bazhang> wynd: on an install, yes
[03:20] <wynd> bazhang: as opposed to?
[03:20] <Pelo> rust, not sure you need the display:0.0 line, it's not a gui app
[03:20] <luckylin> fade2black: K3B is great for burning cd's
[03:20] <maarek_> oh, this is going to be fun.  I'm installing adobe AIR
[03:20] <koshea> Pelo, k thanks
[03:20] <maarek_> I also downloaded the SDK for Adobe AIR
[03:20] <fade2black> luckylin im trying to rip music cds
[03:20] <rust> Pelo, It is meant to pop up a notification message near the systray
[03:20] <Pelo> niuq,  ext3 file system works differently it does not need to be defraged
[03:21] <fade2black> ? restricted
[03:21] <Pelo> rust, nvm then , is it not working ?
[03:21] <niuq> Pelo: mmmm can you tell me why, or it's a out of topic question?
[03:21] <Pelo> rust, give us the whole line, including the time stuff
[03:21] <rust> Pelo, it works from a terminal but when I cron it or run it from 'at' nothing happens
[03:22] <rust> * * * * * DISPLAY=:0.0 /usr/bin/notify-send Notify "Notified"
[03:22] <rust> for testing ;)
[03:22] <LadyNikon> anyone use vim and colors and know the default folder for colors?
[03:22] <Pelo> rust, try export DISPLAY....
[03:22] <sk8ball> saikor: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg was the answer to my problems
[03:22] <Tu13es> how can I disable my wifi on my desktop? it keeps coming back if i ifconfig down it
[03:23] <Pelo> rust, hold on
[03:23] <sk8ball> just took all the defaults more or less
[03:23] <saikor> sk8ball: ah, glad you got it running.
[03:23] <sk8ball> saikor: thx for the help
[03:23] <Pelo> * * * * * export DISPLAY=:0.0 && /usr/bin/notify-send Notify "Notified"
[03:23] <LadyNikon> Tu13es: int he admin section there is network
[03:23] <Azur3> bazhang: why would it say "AR5006EG" but have 168c:001c?
[03:23] <Pelo> rust,  * * * * * export DISPLAY=:0.0 && /usr/bin/notify-send Notify "Notified"
[03:23] <saikor> sk8ball: yeah that makes sense. I always forget you can do that.
[03:23] <LadyNikon> Tu13es: you can disable it there
[03:23] <Flyerfye> anyone wanna answer my above question
[03:23] <rust> Pelo, thanks I'll give that a try
[03:23] <LadyNikon> Flyerfye: please be patient.. if no one can answer try the forums.
[03:23] <sk8ball> anyone have experience with P5VD2-VM SE under linux, specifically installing drivers for the onboard video ?
[03:24] <fade2black> whats the restricted format site
[03:24] <sk8ball> that is the Asus P5VD2-VM SE
[03:24] <LadyNikon> sk8ball: its better to just ask your question.
[03:24] <Scunizi> sk8ball, what kind of card is on the board
[03:25] <Tu13es> LadyNikon: hm, I'm in xfce
[03:25] <LadyNikon> Tu13es: oh sorry. I thought you were in ubuntu
[03:25] <StevenX> How do I configure Amarok to recognize my iPod? Music Player recognizes it, but Amarok does not.
[03:25] <Tu13es> well, xubuntu technically
[03:25] <LadyNikon> Tu13es: ask in the xubuntu channel for the location of the gui location
[03:26] <LadyNikon> of the network application
[03:26] <spiniker> i have problems with ubuntu hardy,everytime i shut down may laptop,the screen goes black
[03:26] <sk8ball_> Scunizi: VIA Chipset P4M900 integrated graphics card
[03:26] <sk8ball_> brb
[03:26] <Tu13es> I found a Network thing that lets me choose roaming or non roaming, doesn't appear to let me disable it though
[03:26] <LadyNikon> !hardy
[03:26] <barnaby> Hi all. I have a long winded question, forgive me please. Here goes: @ hd's in pc, orig. Vista. Gparted wiped em both installed Gutsy on sda1. Sda2 not seen by gutsy, puppy sees it. Do I add entry in fstab? Install on 2nd hd? please to advise, sorry if flood.
[03:26] <Scunizi> sk8ball, intel.. hang on
[03:26] <LadyNikon> bleh
[03:26] <Pelo> StevenX,  I think you need to setup your ipod in amarok as a music library or some such, tehre are totorials about it in theforum
[03:26] <spiniker> and it takes to long to shut down..
[03:27] <rust> Pelo, Nope, that didn't work either.
[03:27] <StevenX> Pelo, thanks.
[03:27] <fade2black> whats the music cd ripping program
[03:27] <Pelo> rust, you are putting some numbers in right ?
[03:28] <rust> Pelo, I've tried all stars and */1 for the minute and ive been using at to schedule it as well
[03:28] <barnaby> Man, that weren't as long winded as I thought it was gonna be.
[03:28] <Azur3> what irc client are you all using? just curious, I'm running chatzilla through firefox
[03:28] <rust> Pelo, I wanted to check it wasn't something I was doing wrong, I'm running Hardy so I guess I'll pop over to ubuntu+1
[03:29] <rust> make sure it's not a known bug
[03:29] <bazhang> Azur3: the madwifi drivers support that card; the reason for it being listed as 5006 in ubuntu may be a problem with ubuntu not searching for subsection ids (or so I've read)
[03:29] <rust> Pelo, ty for the help
[03:29] <Pelo> rust shouldn't make a differentce but be my guest, that was my only guess
[03:30] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform.html here is more info azur3
[03:30] <barnaby> Anyone care to take a stab at my second hard drive being a no-show?
[03:30] <Azur3> bazhang: ok thank you
[03:30] <Pelo> barnaby, pastebin it
[03:30] <Scunizi> sk8ball, there's a package in synaptic called xserver-xorg-video-opench that comes from http://www.openchrome.org.. that might be it.
[03:30] <barnaby> it's not that long
[03:30] <barnaby> 2 hd's in the machine
[03:31] <barnaby> Wiped out Vista with gparted on both drives
[03:31] <Mezriss> greetings. I
[03:31] <bazhang> StevenX: this is the latest iPod?
[03:31] <Pelo> barnaby, I thought this was a fstab problem which is why I asked for a pastebin,  I missread the word stab for fstab
[03:31] <StevenX> bazhang, it is a 5.5g ipod.
[03:31] <Pelo> anyway i have to go , later folks
[03:31] <barnaby> installed gutsy, asked me which drive to put it on, I said sda1
[03:32] <barnaby> sda2 does not show up
[03:32] <bazhang> cya pelo
[03:32] <barnaby> i know it's theroot off a puppy disk, there it ise, I can b
[03:32] <Mezriss> I've installed libc6 2.7 from hardy to my gutsy install instead of 2.6 and now I get messages about unsatisfied dependencies. deb installer doesn't work due to this
[03:32] <bazhang> StevenX: not sure what that means; is this a newer iPod?
[03:33] <Mezriss> how can I fix it?
[03:33] <StevenX> bazhang, yes.
[03:33] <barnaby> i musta merged messages
[03:33] <bazhang> Mezriss: always a bad idea to add hardy stuff to gutsy; no telling what might have been damaged
[03:33] <barnaby> i can boot into puppy and there it is
[03:34] <Mezriss> ther's a lit of libraries that have broken dependencies
[03:34] <barnaby> but gutsy does na see it
[03:34] <bazhang> StevenX: that requires compiling libgpod 0.6.0 for gutsy or waiting three weeks for Hardy and getting it in the release
[03:34] <Mezriss> but what can I do now? how can I get the vercion I need back?
[03:34] <rust> barnaby, what device handle does puppy give it
[03:35] <bazhang> Mezriss: you are in trouble as far as I can see; doing things the way you did may require a backup and reinstall
[03:35] <StevenX> bazhang, I found the tutorial on ubuntuforums.org. Thank you. One last question. Will Amarok let me delete and make queues?
[03:35] <barnaby> man i misremember, but it does see it, hda1? sda1?
[03:35] <bazhang> StevenX: you mean playlists? is that queues? fairly sure the answer is yes
[03:35] <barnaby> i never formatted it, just wiped it with gparted. Maybe that's the prob?
[03:36] <Mezriss> is it possible to get libc6 2.6 sourcw and compile it to replace 2.7?
[03:36] <StevenX> bazhang, yes, playlists. thank you.
[03:36] <Azur3> bazhang: it says to inter the 7.10 gusty gibbon disk release i386
[03:36] <Azur3> bazhang: is that my livecd?
[03:36] <bazhang> Azur3: yes
[03:36] <icanhasadmin> barnaby: 100% of the time, good old fdisk/mkfs is the best way to handle it.
[03:37] <barnaby> mkfs? you interest me strangely...speak on
[03:37] <NW2190> hey, does anyone know how to indent multiple lines in vim? I tried = in Visual mode but it just prints '4 lines indented' without indenting...