[12:20] <sercik> i can't use sudo command anymore.. please help me!!!
[12:20] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Well, the basic info is here:
[12:20] <sercik> i thibk that tje problrm is i have done following command usermod -G vbixusere sercik
[12:20] <jhutchins_lt> !sudo | sercik
[12:20] <ubotu> sercik: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:20] <routh> I need a hand from someone - I used automatix and downloaded the latest updates kubuntu dapper - and now I can't access /media/usbdisk no matter what I do with /etc/fstab
[12:20] <sercik> i think that the problem is i have done following command usermod -G vboxusers sercik
[12:22] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Yup.  Should have used -a
[12:23] <sercik> now when i do sudo don't work and if i launch adept dor example i insert my user password but it don't gice me access
[12:23] <sercik> please what can i do??
[12:23] <lascar> /disconnect
[12:23] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Probably need to do usermod -a adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[12:24] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Followed by your username, of course.
[12:24] <sercik> ah ok
[12:25] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Actually, your username twice, you want to be a member of serick too.
[12:25] <routh> Anyone have any idea what happened to my system? I used to have access to any new usb drives, but now it tells me I don't have access permissions
[12:25] <sercik> switch -a is incorrect
[12:25] <jhutchins_lt> you may also need to usermod -g sercik sercik
[12:25] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Hm.
[12:26] <sercik> i have tried it and usermod don't recognize -a
[12:26] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Sorry, -Ga
[12:27] <jhutchins_lt> Whoops, sorry, I'm rusty on this.
[12:27] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: seperate the groupnames with commas.
[12:27] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: no spaces, just commas.
[12:28] <sercik> like this usermod -Ga adm,dialout,cdrom,floppy,audio,dip......
[12:28] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Yes.
[12:28] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Some commands require that you use the form usermod -G -a, but they usually allow you to combine the options.
[12:28] <sercik> it says "a group unknown"
[12:29] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Sigh.  Try -G -a then.
[12:30] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: "This behaviour can be changed via -a option..." - from man usermod
[12:30] <sercik> sercik is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[12:31] <jhutchins_lt> Heh.
[12:31] <sercik> and also another strange thing i have no mixer
[12:31] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Probably because you're not in group audio.
[12:32] <JP_P_home> hello raki crashes when i try to sync the calendar, but it is ok for contacts
[12:32] <sercik> i'm not is sudoers so i can't use sudo so i can't add myself to groups i think...
[12:32] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Sorry, man, I gotta go feed the horses.  I'm sure there's a page on this on the wiki or something.
[12:32] <sercik> thank you jhutchins
[12:32] <sercik> :(
[12:34] <dextrone> hello, can anyone tell me if I can install kubuntu from the {regular} cd wo/ loading the desktop
[12:34] <guillermo> yes you can
[12:34] <guillermo> i did it today
[12:35] <dextrone> my install often freezes at the main install part where it says Detecting Filesystems
[12:35] <dextrone> can u tell me how
[12:35] <guillermo> well mine diod not freezze
[12:35] <guillermo> i had a little problem but that was beaacause the cd was damaged
[12:35] <guillermo> i isntalled kubuntu 7.04
[12:35] <guillermo> i restarted the pc with the cd insidde
[12:35] <JP_P_home> nobody uses raki ?
[12:35] <dextrone> same, but when i load the desktop, it freezes
[12:36] <dextrone> ,and how do I install wo/ loading the desktop
[12:36] <guillermo> then it gets to a screen when it asks you what you want to do, i picked start kubuntu in safe mode graphics
[12:37] <dextrone> and does that allow you to install wo/ the desktop
[12:37] <dextrone> or is there something I need to do along with that
[12:38] <guillermo> after you get to the desktop
[12:38] <dextrone> yes
[12:38] <guillermo> there is a little icon on the desktop that says install
[12:38] <guillermo> then it just to follow orders
[12:38] <dextrone> wait
[12:38] <dextrone> it freezes when I do that at the last step when I press install,
[12:39] <dextrone> it says detecting filesystems
[12:39] <guillermo> what do you have for hardrives?
[12:39] <dextrone> I tried leaving it on for ~3 hrs but no dice
[12:39] <dextrone> 40GB maxtator
[12:39] <Sanne> dextrone: your best bet would be the alternate cd (but I guess you already know about that?)
[12:39] <dextrone> well
[12:40] <dextrone> the thing is the live cd is my only wait to get anywhere beyond "Press any key to restart" OR "Hal.dll is corrupt" {2xp installs}
[12:40] <dextrone> and that's why I can't get the alt. cd
[12:41] <oem> hello.. :)
[12:42] <dextrone> oem:hello, is there anyway to install kubuntu {7} wo/ loading the live desktop
[12:42] <guillermo> chek if someone lives near you with a disc?
[12:43] <morfejas> yra lietuviu ?:)
[12:43] <guillermo> i would try to format the disc and try again to isntall
[12:43] <dextrone> well, I know a few people here and there but I need it fixed now, so if there's any other solution I'd like it
[12:43] <dextrone> the hdd
[12:43] <dextrone> ?
[12:43] <guillermo> where are you writting from now? windows?
[12:43] <dextrone> no
[12:43] <morfejas> how instal skype? :\
[12:44] <dextrone> the live cd
[12:44] <guillermo> and it frezzes just at the end anfter pressing install
[12:44] <gnom> HI !!  DOES ANYONE HAVE PROBLEM POWERING OFF KUBUNTU MACHIME ??
[12:44] <dextrone> morfejas:http://tntmax.com/content/view/176/60/
[12:44] <morfejas> fnx
[12:44] <skane> how can i change screen size in linux? please
[12:44] <guillermo> it happened to me that a warning message came up but it was hided behind the originla window so i could not see it
[12:45] <guillermo> maybe that is it, try moving the main window
[12:45] <nosrednaekim> skane: change screen size?do you have a widescreen monitor?
[12:45] <dextrone> no my mouse froze
[12:45] <guillermo> Waht is the kubuntu for ubuntus System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver
[12:46] <guillermo> oh that wa s even wrose
[12:46] <dextrone> ......pesky windows, if it worked for ONE more time I could install debian/ubuntu from those auto install programs
[12:46] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: as far as I can tell there is none... sadly enough
[12:46] <skane> nosrednaekim: i think resolution
[12:46] <gnom> hI Guillermo, do you have problems with ATI?
[12:47] <gnom> I run on ATI too and can't run 3D Cube
[12:47] <nosrednaekim> skane: do you have a widescreen monitor?
[12:47] <skane> nosrednaekim: no i have 19'
[12:47] <guillermo> gnome yeah
[12:48] <guillermo> i am trying ti install the drivers
[12:48] <gnom> can you?
[12:48] <guillermo> i got a link but it is for ubuntu
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> skane: what type of graphics card do you have?
[12:48] <guillermo> it says smething about "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver
[12:48] <skane> nosrednaekim: geforce 5600 FX
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: go into adept, and install the "fglrx" package
[12:49] <guillermo> that, after using tje command line to install some thing
[12:49] <gnom> try original ubuntu drivers, ATI's dont work
[12:49] <nosrednaekim> skane: install "nvidia-glx"
[12:49] <nosrednaekim> its the proprietary Nvidia drivers
[12:49] <guillermo> do i nedd the control panel?
[12:50] <gnom> found tutorial, no control panel
[12:51] <guillermo> it's done
[12:51] <guillermo> i am gona try to watch a film
[12:51] <gnom> player?
[12:51] <guillermo> i got vlc, amarok, kaffeine,mplayer
[12:51] <gnom> Prefered?
[12:52] <gnom> my kubuntu is too slow running amarok
[12:52] <guillermo> i installed kubuntu today i dont know
[12:52] <guillermo> i had windows untill this morning
[12:52] <nosrednaekim> gnom: install exaile!
[12:53] <guillermo> i dont see anything on amarok burt i hear
[12:53] <gnom> nice distro, but requires work
[12:53] <gnom> did you compile dirvers (xine)?
[12:53] <guillermo> are you talking to me?
[12:54] <guillermo> xine? i guess i didi
[12:54] <luke_> windows req work
[12:54] <gnom> Anybody have experience witc Scientific linux?
[12:54] <morfejas> cp skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb.orig
[12:54] <morfejas> cp: cannot stat `skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb': No such file or directory
[12:54] <morfejas> help.. :)
[12:55] <gnom> change repositories
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> morfejas: what are you trying to do?
[12:55] <morfejas> instal skype
[12:55] <dextrone> is there any boot option with the cd that I can try so it boots directly into the isbtaller
[12:55] <dextrone> *live cd
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> dextrone: no... you need the alternate installer for that
[12:55] <luke_> kxmame on kubumtu is top notch
[12:56] <luke_> played frogger today
[12:56] <gnom> ARE YOU AMERICANS?
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> what is kxmane
[12:56] <morfejas> I don`t speek EN help my how work next ... plz... :)
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> yeah...
[12:56] <luke_> emulatoe
[12:56] <gnom> what is the problem?
[12:57] <morfejas> cp skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb.orig
[12:57] <morfejas> cp: cannot stat `skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb': No such file or directory
[12:57] <morfejas> what :)
[12:57] <guillermo> it does not work
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> morfejas: if you don't speak  english, go to a channel for your language
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: what doesn't?
[12:57] <guillermo> koffeine does not show anything neither does amarok
[12:57] <guillermo> i mean the drivers
[12:57] <guillermo> vlc shows sound and picture but it is slow
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: drivers for what?
[12:58] <luke_> kxmame is in synaptic
[12:58] <guillermo> and pretty bad with fullscreen
[12:58] <guillermo> i am trying to install drivers for an ati graphic card
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: go into adept
[12:58] <jaevel> can someone tell me where to find hardware list that is compatible with the new nvidia-glx-new driver?
[12:58] <sercik> i don't know why but i have deassociated my user from groups i think so now i need to know to which group should add my user to work correctly in kubuntu
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> and search for adept
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> search for "fglrx" sorry
[12:58] <guillermo> i already installed it
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> jaevel: pretty much anything after the Geforce4
[12:59] <morfejas> fnx
[12:59] <morfejas> bye
[12:59] <morfejas> >:)
[12:59] <pierre_> how to make knetworkmanager remember for my wifi network wpa key, when i enter it the kde wallet ask me for a password but next time i start i have to enter it again, is it because knetworkmanager is maybe starting before the kdewallet ?
[01:00] <luke_> automatics will help
[01:00] <jaevel> nosrednaekim, are you sure? i have a GeForce 440 something or another and i cant get it to work?
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: ok, now, run this command "sudo aticonfig --initial --overlay-type=Xv"
[01:00] <sercik> jhutchins: i ave solved a little i have started kubuntu with kernel parameter sinlge and i have added sercik to group admin
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> jaevel: ok...not sure... just run nvidia-glx there is really very little difference in functionality right now
[01:01] <sercik> could you repeat me that groups to which i need to add sercik?
[01:02] <jaevel> nosrednaekim, well.. i've been trying to run wine->wow and everyone keeps telling me to upgrade my drivers to get it to work....
[01:02] <guillermo> i did taht nosrednaekm
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: ok, now you need to edit your Xorg.
[01:02] <guillermo> should it be working bwtter now?
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> no.. not yet.
[01:02] <skane> nosrednaekim:  i know it now thx
[01:02] <guillermo> if you guide me ill be thankfull
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> skane: NP
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: will do
[01:03] <sercik> i'm not able to access sound as user
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: log out, and select in the KDM sessions menu or whatever to restart the X sever
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> then log back in.
[01:04] <guillermo> i'll be right back
[01:04] <skane> GN
[01:04] <gnom> poor guy
[01:06] <guillermo> i am back
[01:06] <guillermo> when i loged out i did restart the x-server
[01:06] <guillermo> there was an option when i was about to write my password
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[01:06] <oem> hi
[01:07] <oem> i have a problem with beryl
[01:07] <gnom> hi
[01:07] <gnom> me too
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> run the command " glxinfo | grep direct"
[01:07] <guillermo> well i tryied kaffeine now and it works a lot better
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: really? good.
[01:07] <guillermo> it works very good even in full size window
[01:08] <oem> its about the rendering?
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> oem: sorry, wasn't talking to you
[01:08] <oem> ok
[01:09] <gnom> oem: did it work before?
[01:09] <oem> yes
[01:09] <gnom> on wath card?
[01:11] <guillermo> man thx for the help
[01:12] <oem> intel 865g
[01:12] <Graham> guillermo: You get your ATI card sorted I see?
[01:12] <gnom> linux native drivers?
[01:12] <oem> yeh
[01:13] <gnom> work better. I crashed my systwm with ATI drivers
[01:13] <gnom> pure sabotage
[01:13] <Graham> guillermo: Yes? No? Potatoes?
[01:13] <guillermo> Graham? potatoes
[01:14] <Graham> Seemed random, you get your graphics card working?
[01:14] <nosrednaekim> Graham: I think he did.
[01:14] <Graham> Lovelly jubely :)
[01:14] <gnom> baad...
[01:14] <rich__> imnew to linux
[01:15] <Bi||aBong> i have a problem with wine and cedega when i try run GTA SA this crash
[01:15] <rich__> i have no idea what im doing
[01:15] <nosrednaekim> osrry to spoil your rhyme... its spelled "jubilee"
[01:15] <rich__> somone help.
[01:15] <oem> pleas check this is a screenshot of my desktop runing beryl http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/445/mydesktopjs6.png
[01:15] <nosrednaekim> rich__: ok... whats the problem
[01:15] <guillermo> man i love this thing
[01:16] <guillermo> i am gonna convince my friends of give it a try
[01:16] <rich__> im trying to install programs, and whever i try to do so,, it says unable to compile excutible
[01:16] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: what thing?
[01:16] <gnom> instal gcc
[01:17] <rich__> gcc?
[01:17] <rich__> see this is my first time ever using linux
[01:17] <gnom> my first kubuntu didn t have it
[01:17] <Sanne> rich__: for installting software in general in *ubuntu, see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement
[01:17] <guillermo> i mean linux
[01:17] <guillermo> kubuntu all this world outside windows
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> rich__: what program?you ussually don't need to compile something..
[01:17] <gnom> need Knemo
[01:18] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: ah yes... most don't know this world exists...
[01:18] <dextrone> can anyone help me figure out why my computer freezes when I press the "Install" button; it freezes at 15% Detecting Filesystems
[01:18] <rich__> well what im really trying to get is beryl
[01:18] <rich__> and i have no idea how to
[01:18] <agn0stic> dextrone: are you sure it's not just hanging for a bit?
[01:19] <dextrone> I've left it on for hours sometimes; nothing changes
[01:19] <gnom> rich:get to know it in general, worry about 3d later
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> rich__: ok... first, are you running Nvidia or Intel graphics?
[01:19] <rich__> ATI
[01:20] <agn0stic> dextrone: i assume ubuntu 7.10 is what you're trying to install?
[01:20] <dextrone> yes
[01:20] <gnom> rich: with ATI your scroweddd...
[01:21] <dextrone> brb
[01:21] <agn0stic> dextrone: first thing to try would be burning the iso cd at a slow speed, to make sure it's burnt correctly
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> rich__: is it a new card, or an older one?
[01:21] <rich__> a new one
[01:21] <rich__> brand new computer all together
[01:21] <Tired_> If Kubuntu decides (without me asking, after install) to load a certain kernel module, and it does, does that mean I have that particular hardware?
[01:22] <Graham> Tired_: Just means Kubuntu THINKS you have particular hardware.
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> rich__: that will be a big pain then. ATI doesn't play nice with Linux.
[01:22] <Tired_> So I might have Bluetooth, then...
[01:22] <lascar> agreed
[01:22] <ubuntu> I need help with partitioning my drive
[01:22] <Tired_> Cool
[01:22] <rich__> well what about  cgl
[01:22] <rich__> xgl*
[01:23] <rich__> iv read that it is compatible
[01:23] <Graham> Well... as far as I know, Bluetooth modules are loaded anyway.
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> Tired_: nah.. you probably don't.. Ubuntu just loads those things.
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> cmopatible, yes, stable, oh most certainly not
[01:23] <Graham> I personally just got rid of mine.
[01:23] <Tired_> Oh.  I don't know how I'd test it anyways...I have no bluetooth devices
[01:23] <ubuntu> can I get help with partitioning my drive
[01:23] <rich__> well either way id like to try it atleast
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> rich__: it is.. but its both unstable and a bit heavy on resouces
[01:23] <Graham> NO YOU CAN'T!
[01:24] <gnom> dont be cruel
[01:24] <Graham> ubuntu: Get QTparted and you'll be halfway home.
[01:24] <ubuntu> please private message me if you can help
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> rich__: ok then...
[01:24] <gnom> Gparted is more sin
[01:24] <gnom> simple
[01:24] <nceterval> What is the name of the Kubuntu update manager I can use to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty?  Adept was supposed to launch it, but crashed.
[01:24] <Graham> Gparted is more gnome :)
[01:24] <gnom> yea
[01:24] <Graham> And sucks ass anyway.
[01:24] <gnom> uuu
[01:24] <oem> cya
[01:25] <rich__> so how would i go about doing so
[01:25] <agn0stic> nceterval: you can just change the names in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:25] <Graham> ubuntu: What do you want to do to your drive?
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> !XGL | rich__
[01:25] <ubotu> rich__: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:25] <agn0stic> nceterval: then apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[01:25] <ubuntu> yay
[01:25] <nceterval> agn0stic, There's no reason to use whatever fancy GUI Kubuntu have designed?
[01:26] <Graham> ubuntu: Hello?
[01:26] <rich__> thanks, and that should be step by step on how to install
[01:26] <sercik> please could someone do the following command "groups" and give me the output?? PLEASE!!!
[01:26] <agn0stic> nceterval: i find it faster to do stuff from the command line most of the time, especially installing apps. If you want to use the gui, you can, but it's mainly a wrapper to the command line tools anyhow
[01:27] <nceterval> agn0stic, What is the command to launch the GUI (for reference if nothing else)?
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> rich__: yeah... if not(or if you have problems) come back here
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> sercik: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin freddy
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> freddy is my user name
[01:27] <gnom> I can't turn off my computer HELP
[01:27] <agn0stic> nceterval: idk. synaptic is one front-end to apt (assuming you're talking about the gui for upgrading)
[01:27] <Graham> gnom: Unplug it.
[01:28] <gnom> Kubuntu gets stuck
[01:28] <Graham> Load it in recovery mode and do shutdown, see if any errors occour.
[01:29] <gnom> There is no error if I power it off from root konsole
[01:29] <nceterval> agn0stic, Oh, I'm not looking for a package manger, there is apparently a frontend specifically for the Feisty upgrade (http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php).
[01:29] <ubuntu> it wont let me format my disk
[01:29] <sercik> Admiral_Chicago: thank you very much
[01:29] <nceterval> agn0stic, As I said, Adept indicated that it would launch it and then crashed.
[01:29] <sercik> how can i add myself to all that groups??
[01:29] <ubuntu> any ideas on how to make it so that when i partition it it wont say that i cant change the partition size
[01:30] <gnom> unmount if first
[01:30] <Admiral_Chicago> np
[01:30] <ubuntu> no
[01:30] <ubuntu> its my windows hard drive
[01:31] <ubuntu> its a 350 gig sata and has over 50 gigs free
[01:31] <gnom> you need ntfs3g
[01:31] <Graham> No he doesn't.
[01:31] <Graham> He needs the ntfsutils
[01:31] <Graham> So you can resize it.
[01:31] <gnom> isn't installed by default
[01:31] <gnom> do it from win
[01:32] <agn0stic> nceterval: the command to launch adept should be "adept" without the quotes.
[01:33] <Alonea> what is the big difference between the dvd and the live cd?
[01:33] <agn0stic> nceterval: you could launch it from a terminal and look at the output when it crashes to try to determine the cause
[01:33] <ubuntu> okay
[01:33] <ubuntu> so what should i do
[01:33] <ubuntu> just use partition magic?
[01:33] <gnom> ubuntu: use knoppix if your win partitions dont work
[01:33] <Daisuke_Ido> Alonea: the number of included packages
[01:33] <agn0stic> nceterval: or just do the upgrade yourself, probably less painful if adepts crashing on you
[01:33] <gnom> ntfs-fix --
[01:34] <ubuntu> okay
[01:34] <ubuntu> well heres a question
[01:34] <Daisuke_Ido> gnom: or how about just setting them up properly and not driving people away from ubuntu, mmmkay?
[01:34] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: ok. downloading disk for friend and he is on dialup.
[01:34] <ubuntu> whats the partition type for kubuntu
[01:34] <gnom> sorry
[01:34] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: I should probably get him the dvd, yes?
[01:34] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu: pretty much whatever you want
[01:34] <nceterval> agn0stic, Right, I understand how to launch Adept...  it is my understanding that there is a seperate GUI tool used for the Feisty upgrade.
[01:34] <Daisuke_Ido> Alonea: that would be my recommendation
[01:34] <ubuntu> what would be reccomended
[01:34] <nceterval> Perhaps I am mistaken
[01:34] <ubuntu> ntfs
[01:34] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu
[01:34] <Alonea> ubuntu: most use ext3
[01:34] <ubuntu> okay
[01:34] <ubuntu> ill use that
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> almost anything :D
[01:35] <ubuntu> tahnks alonea
[01:35] <Dragnslcr> Does Feisty run ntpdate on a set interval  by default, or do I have to manually add the cron job?
[01:35] <Alonea> ubuntu: the live cd should make that by default
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> ext3 is the most common, then reiser or ext2 probably
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> and vfat is good for cross-platform storage
[01:35] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: I doubt he would want to drag his computer to my house for decent internet all the time.
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> although it probably "violates microsoft's patents"
[01:35] <agn0stic> nceterval: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php makes it look like its done through adept. if it's launching another program, I have no clue what it would be, sorry.
[01:36] <nceterval> agn0stic, Hmm, ok.  Thanks for your time.
[01:36] <gnom> screw theri patents
[01:36] <Admiral_Chicago> Alonea: the dvd has all of main on there
[01:36] <Alonea> Admiral_Chicago: ok. hopefully this download doesn't take too long...
[01:36] <Daisuke_Ido> the dvd is the best option, but it doesn't have universe...  as Admiral_Chicago just said and i should really pay more attention
[01:37] <Admiral_Chicago> :-) Alonea about as long as it takes a dvd to download
[01:37] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: well, he just wants to get his computer up at the moment with some stuff on it. He just built his own.
[01:38] <Alonea> Admiral_Chicago: hehe. Well, he is supposed to come by in a couple hours for it. Worst case I give him Edgy Eft and he can get over it.
[01:38] <gnom> bye
[01:38] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, edgy-feisty upgrade over dialup
[01:38] <Daisuke_Ido> that's torture
[01:39] <sercik> Admiral_Chicago: thank you very much i have solved my problem
[01:39] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: well, he could always wait to upgrade and actually bring over computer to my house for relief...
[01:39] <Admiral_Chicago> torrents work well for me. good speeds
[01:39] <Admiral_Chicago> sercik: my pleasure
[01:40] <Alonea> Admiral_Chicago: oh! I dunno if you were there, but I found non network manager/knetwork manager option for WPA. It is a bit buggy, but it works
[01:40] <sercik> i can give a help to all people: if you lose root privileges and you can't use sudo command you can start kubuntu in alternate mode so you can give command as root
[01:40] <Jack3> can someone please help me with this http://pastebin.ca/490328
[01:40] <Alonea> Admiral_Chicago: I had no idea that Wireless Assistant had a later version with it.
[01:40] <Admiral_Chicago> Alonea: few people realize the power of torrents, I was getting 600 k/b down for Ubuntu Studio
[01:40] <Alonea> Admiral_Chicago: I could try real fast
[01:41] <Daisuke_Ido> oink!
[01:41] <Jack3> anyone know?
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: go to "ctrl+alt+f2"
[01:41] <Admiral_Chicago> Jack3: recovery mode, sudo startx telss you what
[01:42] <Admiral_Chicago> tells*
[01:42] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry i'm a bit excited :)
[01:42] <Jack3> i will have to reboot, im on the windows partition
[01:42] <Jack3> whats ctrl alt f2 do?
[01:42] <Admiral_Chicago> okay write down the last line and get back to me
[01:42] <Jack3> okay
[01:42] <Admiral_Chicago> i may be afk
[01:42] <Admiral_Chicago> Jack3: move to a tty
[01:42] <Jack3> tty?
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> moves to a command linee only console
[01:43] <Jack3> alritebrb
[01:43] <Jack3> actualy
[01:44] <Jack3> when i tried recovery mode
[01:44] <Jack3> i put in my ass in sudo -s,and it said incorrect
[01:44] <Jack3> and i am POSITIVE it is
[01:44] <dextrone> ok I just came back; when ever I try to install kubuntu 7; it locks up at "detecting filesystems 15%" any help
[01:44] <dextrone> would be nice
[01:45] <Jack3> helllllllllllllllllllo?
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> sudo -s?
[01:45] <Daisuke_Ido> uh
[01:45] <Jack3> yeh, is that wrong?
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> no need to shout BTW...
[01:45] <Jack3> sorry
[01:46] <Jack3> i think i tried sudo also
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> I've never used the recovery mode myself,so i'm not sure what it does.
[01:47] <ardchoille> I guess I've been lucky with this distro.. I've never had to use recovery mode, never had a crash or problem.
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> yeah..me too... mut then I don'tdo Bit torrents...
[01:48] <ardchoille> I take that back, the biggest problem I have had with this distro is how to change the kmenu icon, lol
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> and Jack3's problem is anoyingly common.
[01:48] <Jack3> really?
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> yeah.
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> I've seen it at lest 2 times
[01:49] <Daisuke_Ido> if so it sounds liek a wine problem
[01:49] <Daisuke_Ido> with properly detecting free space
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> really? I think its a problem with not enough diskspace
[01:50] <Daisuke_Ido> my sarcasm detector's on the fritz :\
[01:50] <dextrone> any help for me with my install freezing at detecting file systems
[01:51] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: I wonder if that's just with the wine in the ubuntu repos. I had a lot less problems when I switched to theirs.
[01:51] <Daisuke_Ido> Alonea: i'm using .9.37 from the budgetdedicated repos and haven't had a problem
[01:52] <ardchoille> What's the status of the Clicn N Run stuff that I have heard about? How do I get it on my systems?
[01:53] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: yeah, thats what I use too. fixed all of my previous problems with it. Its the one that isn't at budgetdedicated that I had a whole lotta problems with.
[01:56] <drkns> hello
[01:56] <drkns> how can i make ndiswrapper module to autoload at start up instead of writing modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:56] <drkns> everytime
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> "ndiswrapper -m"
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> or rather "sudo ndiswrapper -m"
[01:57] <TheDebugger> I think you just have to write it in : /etc/modules
[01:58] <drkns> thanks
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> thats what that command does
[01:58] <drkns> thank you
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> you're welcome
[01:59] <drkns> today i tried to install kubuntu on a raid 0 set up but i failed
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> drkns: yeah you need the alternate installer for that.
[01:59] <drkns> it seems raid 0 is not an option
[01:59] <eduardo> hello who can help me with ubuntu apache asp net?! :'(
[01:59] <drkns> i tried it with alternate install cd
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> drkm: ah... ok..
[02:00] <drkns> it is hard to decide whether i have hardware or software raid
[02:00] <drkns> my laptop manual says it has hardware raid
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> laptop? with RAID? WOAH!
[02:01] <drkns> but kubuntu detected drives as seperate drives even though my fastrack 100 lite set the array
[02:01] <drkns> yes i was using winxp pro on raid 0 120g set up
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> drkns: your laptop has two drives?
[02:02] <drkns> this is a 3 years old laptop and yes it has 2 drives 60gb 7200 rpm each
[02:02] <Arwen> whoa, a dual-hard drive laptop?
[02:02] <Arwen> I want one of t hose
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> wow... that thing must really not have good battery life.
[02:02] <drkns> yep about 30 mins
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> lol.
[02:03] <drkns> heavy as well its 17 inch
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> but it must be pretty fast with raded 7200 RPMS
[02:03] <drkns> yes it was
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> was?
[02:03] <drkns> now i am on kubuntu its kind of sluggish
[02:03] <drkns> no raid
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> just one drive?
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> I mean.. its just istalled on one drive.
[02:04] <drkns> still two drive but both are on ide now not raid 0 array
[02:04] <drkns> yes it is installed on one kubuntu installers always see the drives as two seperate drive
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> ok. well.. I've never done a RAID install so I really can't hepl
[02:04] <drkns> no problem
[02:04] <Alonea> Admiral_Chicago: *grins* friend is gonan bring compy over since he has noooo idea what he is doing.  Know anything about getting SBC dialup to work with kubuntu?
[02:05] <drkns> so far it seems impossible or there is one way but its not efficient
[02:05] <Arwen> Alonea, eh? dialup? does he have a real modem or a winmodem?>
[02:07] <Alonea> Arwen: hell if I know. He just built this comp from the ground up. All he knows is that the software they gave him is only for win/mac. Not to mention I have not had dialup in years and know nothing about it anymore
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> hopefully its an intel...
[02:08] <Arwen> Alonea, hehe, so it is a winmodem :-)
[02:08] <Arwen> too bad, poor guy won't be able to use the Internet
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> are winmodems still THAT bad in linux?
[02:09] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, winmodems are bad. Period.
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> yeppers
[02:09] <Daisuke_Ido> i would think by now someone would have macgyvered something
[02:09] <drkns> they are bad in windoz as well
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> but if its an intel, he might be OK.
[02:09] <Alonea> Arwen: I guess not. but this is the software they gave to him for the old computer. what is the difference between the two?
[02:09] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, Intel winmodems don't work with the latest kernels (feisty, anyone?)
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> really?
[02:09] <Alonea> Arwen: a winmodem and a modem? like, is the win the one built inside the computer and the modem the outside box thing?
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> interesting
[02:10] <Daisuke_Ido> Alonea: winmodems have most functions controlled via software rather than hardware is how i understand it
[02:10] <Arwen> Alonea, a winmodem is a fake modem build into the motherboard or a PCI-* slot. It's like fakeraid (it sucks).
[02:10] <Arwen> Modems are either expensive internal cards with fancy logic circuits or boxes that attach via serial port.
[02:10] <Arwen> !modem
[02:10] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[02:11] <Alonea> Arwen: I honestly don't know what he actually has in his box at all internet wise.
[02:11] <Arwen> Alonea, probably a winmodem then :-)
[02:12] <Alonea> Arwen: like I said, know nothing at all about dialup. He might be getting dsl as soon as he can afford it
[02:12] <Arwen> yay for him :-)
[02:12] <Arwen> Alonea, anyway point him to !dialup :-)
[02:12] <Jack3> hey guys
[02:12] <Jack3> anyone here still?
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> which will be a heck of a lot sooner if you make it painfull
[02:12] <Jack3> im booted into kubuntu live cd
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> yeppers JAck3
[02:13] <Jack3> any ideas what to do now
[02:13] <Alonea> Arwen: the big problem for the longest time was that where he lives, his only choice was dialup or satellite, which is my area, is worse than dialup
[02:13] <Jack3> i wasnt able to successful login to root
[02:13] <Jack3> it just said it was wrong pass
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: yep.
[02:13] <Arwen> Alonea, ouch :-\
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> do a "sudo chroot <your hd partion with linux on it>" that is after you have mounted that partition
[02:14] <Alonea> Arwen: his house was like 2 blocks from the line for I think cable internet. they finally extended it farther out
[02:14] <Arwen> hah
[02:14] <Jack3> how do i know what hd i mounted on?
[02:14] <Jack3> hd0?
[02:14] <Jack3> i dunno
[02:14] <Arwen> Too bad really, I'm waiting for fiber to reach my place. Then again, since this is the U.S., that might not happen till after I die.
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: ok... do a "sudo fdisk /dev/hda" and then "p"
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> oyu only have one HD right?
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> Jack3 that will tell you what your linux partition.
[02:15] <Jack3> it saysunable to open/dev/hda
[02:15] <Alonea> Arwen: heh. I am lucky to have cable.
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: is it a SATA disc?
[02:15] <Jack3> no, its  alaptop
[02:16] <Jack3> well, i guess i dont actulal know if its sata
[02:16] <Jack3> but i doubt it
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: is it a recent laptop?
[02:16] <Arwen> Jack3, that was rather a non-sequitur... what's the fact that it's a laptop have to do with SATA?
[02:16] <Jack3> yes
[02:17] <Jack3> i thought my hardrive waas called sda1 before
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> well its probably got SATA then.
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> so its sata..
[02:17] <Arwen> Jack3, sda? probably SATA then
[02:17] <Jack3> okay
[02:17] <Jack3> so now what?
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> ok.... do a "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt"
[02:17] <Jack3> ok
[02:18] <drkns> byz ppl
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> and then a "sudo chroot /mnt"
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> hrm
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> do NOT close that konsole
[02:19] <Jack3> it says
[02:19] <Jack3> chroot /mnt
[02:19] <Jack3> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> bye
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> is there an equivalent to EAC for linux?
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> they got of chroot in the newest kubuntu? WTH?
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> no... I have it...
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> you sure you put a sudo b4 it?
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido: EAC?
[02:21] <Jack3> i just did sudo -s
[02:21] <Random_Transit> hey, does anyone here know how to set KDE up to accept VNC connections?
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> whts the -s do?
[02:21] <Daisuke_Ido> Jack3: you're better off following directions exactly, better results, probably
[02:21] <Jack3> its to input the pass so you stay as root
[02:22] <Jack3> anyways, i tried sudo chroot /mnt
[02:22] <Jack3> same result
[02:22] <Random_Transit> !vnc
[02:22] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> wait a sec... it says it can't run bash... that means it can't run bash from WITHIN your linux install....
[02:22] <Daisuke_Ido> nosrednaekim: EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is a cd ripper that does extensive error correction for a perfect bit-for-bit copy
[02:23] <Jack3> how do i unmount the sda1/
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> ah.
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: why?
[02:23] <Jack3> cause i want to move it to a folder konqueror can view
[02:23] <nosrednaekim>  go into konquror and type "/mnt" in the location bar
[02:23] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm using kaudiocreator for now, it copies quite nicely, but doesn't play well with some scratched discs
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> scratched discs don't play well ... Perios..lol
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> *period
[02:24] <Jack3> it doesnt have the permissions to acess it
[02:24] <Jack3> it need root access
[02:24] <Jack3> and konqueror wont start in root
[02:25] <Hirvinen> !root > Jack3
[02:25] <Jack3> yeh i tried sudo konqueror
[02:25] <Jack3> i just get a bunch of errors
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> do "kdesu konqueror"
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm not talking about gouges, i'm talking about little scratches that might cause a skip here and there.
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> not sudo...KDESU
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> its different
[02:25] <Jack3> i just get an error about cannot connect to X server
[02:26] <Jack3> using kdesu as well
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> oh.. ok..
[02:26] <Jack3> well, how do i unmount it
[02:26] <nosrednaekim>  well.. navigate to /mnt in a konsole with "cd /mnt"
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> you CAN unmount it with "sudo umount /mnt" But please don't yet.
[02:27] <Jack3> hgmm wrong hdd
[02:27] <Jack3> thats my windows partition
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> AH!
[02:27] <Jack3> so we might as well unmount
[02:27] <Jack3> :P
[02:27] <Jack3> im assumin linux is sda2?
[02:27] <Jack3> or sda0
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> lol..
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> no wonder it couldn'tfind bash
[02:27] <Jack3> :D
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> sda 2 I'd be betting on
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> Jack3: probably 2
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> nosrednaekim: http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/en/index.php/overview/features/features-of-eac/
[02:28] <Jack3> lolnope, tahts the recovery partition
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> sda3 for the win!
[02:28] <Jack3> :D
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> of couse.. that could be swap with our luck
[02:29] <Daisuke_Ido> swap before / ?
[02:29] <Jack3> sda 3 has more windows things
[02:29] <Jack3> wtf o.0
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: do a "sudo fdisk /dev/sda1"
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> then "p"
[02:30] <Daisuke_Ido> need something a little stronger here
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> that'll tell you what partion linux is on
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> like aspirin cubed?
[02:30] <Jack3> im at a Command line
[02:31] <Jack3> not the normal shell
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> it;ll still work.
[02:31] <Jack3> no, like thats what happened when i did fdisk
[02:31] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: Ibuprofen in my drug of choice. girl's best friend
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> tylenol-3 (tylenol + codeine)
[02:32] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: heh. bet that is good too.
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: what did it do?
[02:32] <Daisuke_Ido> makes ya feel gooooood
[02:32] <Daisuke_Ido> anyway, back to the situation at hand
[02:32] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: I just like the pain going completely away very quickly
[02:32] <Jack3> http://pastebin.ca/490423
[02:33] <Daisuke_Ido> that wasn't very nice
[02:33] <lascar> kubuntu froze while upgrading to feisty.  Now it locks whenever I try to boot into it; I can't even get to any sort of console.  Any ideas?
[02:33] <Daisuke_Ido> Jack3: so what's the problem?
[02:33] <Jack3> that doesnt seem to telll me where linux is installed :P
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: ok..put a p and hit enter
[02:34] <Daisuke_Ido> he said press p :)
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> lascar: umm.... get a fiesty Cd, get you files off and reinstall
[02:34] <Jack3> http://pastebin.ca/490426
[02:34] <Jack3> i forgot p :P
[02:36] <Jack3> so im confused which of those is linux
[02:36] <Daisuke_Ido> um...  sudo fdisk /dev/sda maybe
[02:36] <Daisuke_Ido> not sda1
[02:36] <Jack3> also im disturbed by the netware one having 0 blocks
[02:36] <hangthedj> if you just do sudo fdisk -l it will list all partitions and filetypes
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> oh wait... did I say sda1? lol... my bad.
[02:37] <Jack3> ah its sda5
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> hangthedj: thats nice to know
[02:37] <Jack3> thx hang
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> ok.. do the chrot thingy on sda5
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> *chroot
[02:39] <lascar> nosrednaekim: i should be able to glean important files from a dapper live cd, no?
[02:40] <Jack3> okay now what
[02:40] <lascar> and if i can do that, couldn't i just finish the upgrade?
[02:40] <Jack3> that didnt really do anything
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> lascar: yeah... you chould
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> now... as long as you didn't close that terminal... you are now in your linux installation
[02:40] <Jack3> oh,cool
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> now...go into /home/<your username>
[02:41] <Jack3> yeh, there
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> did you try to delete the large file you DL?
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> (downloaded)
[02:42] <Jack3> well they arent there
[02:42] <Jack3> but wheres the trash folder
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> ok... ".local"
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> or rather .local/share/Trash
[02:44] <Arwen> on GNOME, it's .Trash
[02:44] <Jack3> yeh im there
[02:44] <Arwen> you'd think they could agree on something that simple :-\
[02:44] <Jack3> just like 1mb worth of files
[02:44] <Jack3> fuck
[02:44] <Daisuke_Ido> tsk tsk
[02:44] <Jack3> and konqueror still shows 0b free for the linux partition
[02:44] <Jack3> what is going on!
[02:44] <Daisuke_Ido> we say fsck
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> run a "df"
[02:44] <Jack3> df?
[02:44] <Arwen> !terminal | Jack3
[02:44] <ubotu> Jack3: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:45] <Daisuke_Ido> and if it's read only, it would show 0b free wouldn't it?
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> that'll tell you if konquror is right
[02:45] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, no
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> no..
[02:45] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[02:45] <Daisuke_Ido> worth a shot
[02:45] <Jack3> http://pastebin.ca/490448
[02:46] <Jack3> sounds right
[02:46] <Jack3> :(
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> ok.. its full.
[02:46] <Jack3> i deleted 800mb or so of files
[02:46] <Jack3> something is wrong
[02:46] <Arwen> Jack3, this a live CD?
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> did you delete them as root?
[02:46] <Jack3> i just emptied the trashbin before a rebooted
[02:46] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: chroot environment
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> and did you delete them from the command line or konqueror?
[02:47] <Jack3> but they arent in the trashbin, and they arent in there folder
[02:47] <Jack3> so i dunno where they would be
[02:47] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, that might be it
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> look in " /home/.Trash-0"
[02:48] <Jack3> no such file/dir
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[02:48] <Daisuke_Ido> if he did it as root...  does kubuntu use /root for root's home?
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> yeah... it does..but he went to HIS home dir.
[02:49] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> unless of course he delete those files as root.
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: run a "find file" on "/mnt" for the file name of the big file you DL.
[02:50] <Jack3> i dont remember it :X
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: lol..
[02:50] <Jack3> im using konqueror to check the size of all thefolders in / to see if they add up
[02:51] <Jack3> and see which one has the most
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[02:51] <Daisuke_Ido> apt-get clean is another option to see if he can actually clear space or if there's something more serious, i dunno, maybe?  again, i'm just pulling ideas from my nether-regions
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> did you delete the file as root?
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> that file is still around me thinks.
[02:52] <Jack3> i just it through kde
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[02:52] <Jack3> i just clicked empty taskbin
[02:52] <Jack3> err trashbin
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> what was the file?
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> did you send it to trash?
[02:53] <Daisuke_Ido> look in /tmp as well
[02:53] <Jack3> um this is bad
[02:53] <Jack3> total = 5gb
[02:53] <Jack3> it says i have 11.6gb used
[02:54] <dope> how do i know what user php is running under
[02:54] <dope> i have ubuntu server edition
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido: look at his pastebin.... something is definately funny with it...
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> it says the kernel modules ahev 11 GB allocated to them.
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> yeah... some thing is definately weird with that.
[02:55] <Jack3> :
[02:55] <Jack3> (
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> this is what it SHOULD look like http://pastebin.ca/490462
[02:56] <dope> how do i know what user php is running under
[02:57] <Jack3> eek
[02:57] <Jack3> whats goin on
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> everything should not be %100
[02:57] <Jack3> :(
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> I have never see this Jack3
[02:57] <jhutchins_lt> Jack3: May I suggest that you reboot?
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> go over to #linux.
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> maybe they can help over there.
[02:57] <jhutchins_lt> Note that everything also has the same size and usage.
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> he's in a Live cd, chrooted.
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> I know
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> weird eh?
[02:58] <MATADIO> the whole partition thing isnt working
[02:58] <MATADIO> and now my windows is messed up
[02:58] <MATADIO> :(
[02:59] <mofo> have a question about kmail and adding a vcard to my email  :-S
[03:00] <jhutchins_lt> question is unanswerable unless stated.
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> well Jack3: I have to go... I hope someone else can solve your problem
[03:00] <Jack3> :( thx
[03:00] <MATADIO> i need help partitioning
[03:00] <mofo> how does one add a vcard contact info, to kmail..
[03:01] <jhutchins_lt> mofo: I've had trouble importing apple vcards...
[03:01] <jhutchins_lt> mofo: Try this: save the file.
[03:01] <mofo> I/m trying to write a email, and send a vcard threw kmail to my client.
[03:02] <jhutchins_lt> mofo: Ok, right click on contact, choose Send Contact.
[03:03] <MATADIO> If you can help with partitioning, query me!
[03:03] <mofo> hmm, right click on contact, and send contact info
[03:04] <jhutchins_lt> mofo: in kaddressbook.
[03:04] <mofo> ok
[03:04] <mofo> can that be done threw kmail ??
[03:05] <jhutchins_lt> well, yeah, open the addressbook in kmail - that's kaddressbook.
[03:06] <mofo> okay,
[03:06] <mofo> tks
[03:06] <MATADIO> can i get help with partitioning
[03:07] <jhutchins_lt> MATADIO: Possibly.  What help do you want.
[03:09] <jordo23> Has anyone been having problems with Ktorrent?  Ktorrent seems to work fine, but some time within a half an hour it crashes and I get a KDE Trace Crash box....
[03:09] <MATADIO> i want to dual partition my drive so i can run windows and kde, sounds simple but its not working
[03:09] <MATADIO> and it killed my windows
[03:09] <jordo23> MATADIO: I ran dual boot Windows/Kubuntu....what's the problem?
[03:12] <MATADIO> i cant get it to work
[03:12] <MATADIO> it wont let me resize the windows partition
[03:12] <MATADIO> :@
[03:14] <jordo23> MATADIO: Using QT parted?
[03:14] <jhutchins_lt> MATADIO: What tool are you using?
[03:14] <jordo23> MATADIO: Should be able to.....you may want to install windows and set the partition size smaller that way...
[03:15] <jordo23> MATADIO: That way when you install Kubuntu it can install to unpartitioned space....
[03:17] <jhutchins_lt> If it doesn't talk, we eats it.
[03:17] <Coldwar55> Is there a way to change between embedded movie players?
[03:18] <david2> ugh I need to figure out how to get more signal strenght from my wireless router
[03:18] <jordo23> Coldwar55: You can right-click on the player itself and change it in the configure menu....between Xine, Mplayer, and Gstreamer (if installed) I believe...
[03:18] <Coldwar55> Because I installed Mplayer
[03:18] <Coldwar55> Then I installed Totem
[03:18] <Coldwar55> And I seriously dislike totem
[03:19] <Coldwar55> because it messes with the colors
[03:19] <jordo23> Coldwar55: When the player is open, hover over the menu and right-click, do you see a 'configure' menu?
[03:19] <Coldwar55> In the Browser Window?
[03:20] <jordo23> Coldwar55: Yeah.....but I have only tested this solution in a separate open browser embedded video...
[03:20] <Coldwar55> Ok
[03:20] <Coldwar55> Well no I don't
[03:20] <Coldwar55> All I get is
[03:20] <Coldwar55> About and open Movie in player
[03:20] <Coldwar55> And copy location
[03:20] <Coldwar55> Using FireFox
[03:20] <jordo23> Coldwar55: Try opening it to a separate player...then repeat
[03:21] <Coldwar55> Nope nothing in Totem that has Configure
[03:23] <Dekkard> scuse me.. what is the name of the package that enables mp3 playback with aRts(noatun etc)?
[03:23] <Coldwar55> Maybe I should just remove Totem all together
[03:23] <Coldwar55> Since it gives horribly play back quality
[03:24] <TheDebugger> Dekkard: libxine-extracodecs i think
[03:24] <Dekkard> hmm
[03:25] <Dekkard>  already have that installed noatun wont play mp3.. just ogg
[03:25] <jgibbar> can someone help me with packages
[03:25] <Coldwar55> Thanks anyways jordor23
[03:25] <Coldwar55> I'll just remove totem
[03:25] <dope> i have a php script that writes a file and I it will not write the file.  permission problem and i can't narrow it down
[03:26] <jgibbar> adept manager keeps telling me that the database is locked
[03:26] <Lam_> i'm trying to install fglrx 8.36.5 and i followed the guide on cchtml down to the dot but am still getting mesa
[03:26] <david2> anyone use a repeater?
[03:28] <lascar> jgibbar: run adept as root
[03:28] <jgibbar> I don't currently but I have in the past david2
[03:29] <jgibbar> what do I type after kdesu in the run prompt for adept
[03:30] <jgibbar> never mind I ran adept as root and I get this message "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one."
[03:31] <jgibbar> I have already tried to reboot and I  can't find anything else running
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[03:31] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:34] <jgibbar> ok now adept won't start, I copying your text and just pasted it into konsole
[03:34] <jgibbar> copied^
[03:35] <steffen> is there a firewall installed when i install linux?
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> jgibbar: hmmm ok.
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> that was the bots text.
[03:35] <david2> ugh
[03:35] <Arwen> steffen, yes, but not enabled by default
[03:35] <Arwen> !iptables | steffen
[03:35] <ubotu> steffen: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:35] <david2> need to wait on this
[03:36] <jgibbar> anyone have any Ideas, should I just try to reboot again?
[03:36] <steffen> Arwen: thanks.
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> jgibbar: yeah maybe you should try that again.
[03:38] <dsmith_> Even Bill Gates recommends Ubuntu...   http://www.fayerwayer.com/up/2007/04/bill_gates_ubuntu_mini.jpg
[03:39] <Lam_> lol that's awesome
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> umm..ok
[03:40] <jgibbar> Ok the reboot lets adept run again thanks for all the help
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> NP
[03:41] <dsmith_> im puting that in my consulting folder
[03:41] <dsmith_> :P
[03:41] <thumper> anyone using beryl?
[03:41] <dsmith_> i do
[03:41] <dsmith_> sometimes
[03:41] <jgibbar> one more thing I have been trouble finding libdvdcss2 any suggestions on that?
[03:42] <thumper> I had all my window title bars go grey and unselectable
[03:42] <ardchoille> !libdvdcss
[03:42] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:42] <thumper> could move any windows
[03:42] <thumper> or change virtual desktops of them
[03:42] <thumper> :(
[03:42] <dsmith_> !beryl
[03:42] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:42] <thumper> ta
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> thumper: ok....you don't have a compositiing windows manager..
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> *window
[03:43] <thumper> nosrednaekim: ??
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> do you have an nvidia card? or an ATI?
[03:44] <Arwen> damn guarddog is confusing
[03:44] <thumper> nosrednaekim: using intel
[03:47] <ltmon> i can't seem to set my SSH_ASKPASS environment variable.  I've tried putting "export SSH_ASKPASS=blah" in .xsession, .xinitrc, .bashrc, .bash_login -- but no matter what it doesn't seem to be recognized, "echo $SSH_ASKPASS" is blank and it's not in the output of "export".  Anyone have an idea what I'm doing wrong?
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> thumper: ok....how did you start beryl?
[03:50] <intelikey> hmmm i installed windows on my hdc  and now that disk wont boot.     it says not a valid boot disk
[03:51] <routh> I need help anyone not busy?
[03:51] <intelikey> so it did write to the mbr but didn't make it bootable    errr made it unbootable.   could boot grub there befor
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> routh: ask away
[03:51] <goat> anyone want to help a dumbass ( namely me ) get google earth installed?
[03:52] <routh> I did an update after a fresh install of kubuntu dapper and now I don't have any access permissions to usb drives
[03:52] <intelikey> hitmanWilly likes helping that type goat
[03:52] <routh> I can't figure out why it won't give me access...
[03:52] <thumper> nosrednaekim: not running it right now, rebooted
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> how DID you start it?
[03:53] <thumper> nosrednaekim: but I think I started it using beryl-manager from the command line
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> thumper: ok...first you have to start "beryl"
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> and THEN beryl-manager
[03:53] <goat> hitmanWilly: you like helping dumbies?  I am trying to show my mom her house on google earth real quick
[03:53] <intelikey> quote even
[03:54] <goat> figured it would be in adept... I was wrong
[03:56] <intelikey> aw man grub is not installed.  so i don't guess i will just reinstall grub on that drive
[03:56] <routh> nosrednaekim: I did an update on kubuntu and now I can't access any usbdisk drives that are inserted - says I don't have access permissions - because the drive is an NTFS it won't let me chmod as it's a RO filesystem - and messing with fstab has proved unusefil. But befreo the update it worked perfect, I can't firgure what the update changed..
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> do you have "fuse" and ntfs-3g installed?
[03:57] <intelikey> goat the hitman said you have to go to google and dl the installer
[03:58] <hitmanWilly> goat: you have to go to google itself and download the installer, feisty's commercial repos still haven't been filled up yet
[03:58] <goat> intelikey  thank you
[03:58] <goat> and hitman willy as well
[03:58] <goat> I am sorry for not searching more
[03:58] <hitmanWilly> np...
[03:58] <goat> moms just trying to get to bed
[03:58] <goat> and knew you guys would not stear me wrong
[03:58] <goat> I was right
[03:58] <goat> THANK YOU
[04:00] <routh> nosrednaekim: was that fuse and ntfs-3g meant for me?
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> routh: yeah... sorry
[04:00] <routh> lemme check
[04:03] <routh> libfuse - fuse-utils - which do you mean? I don't see a plain 'fuse package - at any rate none of those are installed
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. I think you need both of those... as well as ntfs-3g
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> routh: ^^
[04:05] <tylerness> hello
[04:05] <steffen> can i get a list of ports that are used? (ex. 83464          eggdrop)
[04:05] <routh> nosrednaekim: nothing ntfs related is installed either - which is weird since it worked before - I can't find an "ntfs-3g" just ntfsprogs and ntfstools
[04:05] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g
[04:05] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:06] <routh> nosredneakim: I should mention I'm on kubuntu dapper
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> hmm....ok
[04:07] <intelikey> possably back-ports  but not in the main *verse dapper repos
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> ok... yeah I guess so.
[04:08] <kristjan_> Do I understand it correctly - http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php - you can install kde4 safely alongside kde3.5?
[04:09] <Jucato> kristjan_: yes
[04:09] <gnomefreak> define safely
[04:11] <gnomefreak> crashes are likely with kde4 so safely isnt the word i would use.
[04:11] <kristjan_> gnomefreak: won't screw my existing kde
[04:11] <intelikey> yeah    safe ?    safe as in a safty deposit box,   or safe as in safe sex ?
[04:11] <gnomefreak> kristjan_: no it shouldnt
[04:11] <kristjan_> intelikey: I can't see similarities between desktop and sex?
[04:12] <gnomefreak> you must have never seen my backgrounds than :)
[04:12] <hitmanWilly> wow, kristjan_, how long have you been hanging around linux users?
[04:12] <intelikey> kristjan_ good for you
[04:12] <goat> intelikey and hitmanwilley   thanks again  I am rocking and rolling with google earth now
[04:13] <goat> she ( my mom ) has never seen anything so interesting as google earth before
[04:13] <intelikey> goat   sorry for any confusion.    and you're welcome
[04:13] <jgibbar> I tried everything you pointed me to for dvd playback but I still get this message with gxine <<No demuxer found - stream format not recognised>>
[04:13] <goat> LOL   my mom just said to (type thank you for me too)
[04:13] <gnomefreak> jgibbar: make sure you have all libxine packages installed and you use regionset
[04:13] <intelikey> greexen sounds good.
[04:13] <gnomefreak> or whatever its called
[04:13] <intelikey> greezen
[04:14] <gnomefreak> out ;)
[04:21] <kristjan_> hmm, it seems installing kde4 requires removing apport
[04:21] <MurcimiRiAm28> hola a tod@s
[04:21] <MurcimiRiAm28> :D
[04:22] <jgibbar> gnomefreak: still did not work, tired of fooling with it, too hungry I will try later, thanks though, so far beats the crap out of vista
[04:22] <kristjan_> When do I have to run "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/lib" http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php
[04:23] <dsmith__> google earth is sweet
[04:24] <dsmith__> worth the effort to install
[04:24] <dsmith__> in if its ported
[04:24] <dsmith__> evn if
[04:24] <MurcimiRiAm28> http://www.nuevointernet.com/votar.asp?id=84
[04:24] <MurcimiRiAm28> :D
[04:25] <PsiKloPx> I just switched over from PCLinux0S to Kubuntu (dual booting with Windows MC) and am having problems getting beryl to work.  no errors.  Just nothing changes.  Any ideas?
[04:27] <kristjan_> PsiKloPx: #ubuntu-effects
[04:27] <PsiKloPx> thanx
[04:28] <Jack3> crap
[04:28] <Jack3> i just fixed my 0bytes free problem
[04:28] <Jack3> but now theres something new
[04:28] <goat> ok  moms in bed now...
[04:28] <kristjan_> Jucato: do I have to run "export" commands if I choose to create "kde4" login in kdm?
[04:28] <ironcladlou> using kubuntu feisty, every new window i open (no matter what the application) appears in the lower left of my screen. what gives?
[04:28] <Jack3> the swap file partition says it cant mount when i try to boot up
[04:28] <Jack3> any idea on how to fix that
[04:28] <goat> whats the best channel to help me install the ATI mobility 9000 drivers
[04:29] <Jucato> kristjan_: the instructions are on that page. you'd have to include the export commands in a config file (forgot which)
[04:29] <goat> NOTE: no protected driver manager in Kubuntu
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> goat: follow the edgy (6.10) instructions, they should still work for feisty
[04:32] <intelikey> jack3  you might format it again.    sudo mkswap /dev/<the device node>
[04:32] <goat> hitmanwilley: sorry to be thick headed. where are these docs?
[04:32] <goat> I can't seem to phrase my searches well tonight
[04:32] <Jucato> !ati | goat
[04:32] <ubotu> goat: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:32] <goat> and end up all over
[04:32] <Jack3> intelikey, will that ruin my linux install?
[04:32] <goat> thank you yet again
[04:32] <goat> you guys are great
[04:33] <intelikey> jack3 not if you input the correct devicenode.      sudo fdisk -l    to see the partition tables
[04:33] <intelikey> jack3 do you need swap ?
[04:34] <Jack3> i duno
[04:34] <Jack3> its sda6
[04:34] <david2> how you get ut2004 working 64 bit?
[04:35] <Jack3> Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 1052798 kB
[04:35] <Jack3> no label, UUID=8d55bcf1-de70-4161-8f1d-d057ef689ca
[04:35] <goat> should I still follow the advice about NOT installing the control panel.. or have the bugs been worked out?
[04:35] <Jack3> does that mean it worked?
[04:36] <intelikey> jack3 blkid   and see what sda6 is now   and then set it accordingly in /etc/fstab
[04:36] <intelikey> assuming your swap is ran through fstab....
[04:36] <david2> libstdc++.so.5 ?? what package is that?
[04:37] <david2> libstdc++5 or libstdc++5-3.3-dev ??
[04:37] <vbgunz> I just bought a new hard drive. I would like to move everything Linux/Kubuntu from the smaller hard drive to the bigger one. Anyone have a good idea how to start?
[04:37] <intelikey> david2 i would assume  libstdc++5    yes.    i only have  libstdc++6
[04:38] <Jucato> david2: installed the package "build-essential"?
[04:38] <Jack3> whathe command line text editror?
[04:38] <david2>  i did
[04:38] <Jack3> whats*
[04:38] <intelikey> nano
[04:38] <Jack3> thx
[04:38] <Jucato> hm...
[04:38] <intelikey> np
[04:38] <Jack3> intelikey, do i need to change this /dev/sda6 swap swap defaults 0 0
[04:39] <intelikey> shouldn't.
[04:39] <Jack3> alrite, i guess ill try to restart
[04:39] <intelikey> jack3 only if it was using the blkid and the blkid changes with a reformat
[04:39] <vbgunz> I know I would need to make 3 partitions on the new drive. 1 for /, swap and /home. *but* what else should I do? I know I need to tell grub but anything else, anyone?
[04:39] <intelikey> so short answer   no
[04:40] <kristjan_> Jucato: you were right, insctuction about export are in the end of the article
[04:40] <Jack3> okay thx
[04:40] <intelikey> vbgunz the installer will make the partitions   just make free unallocated space and go.
[04:41] <vbgunz> intelikey: sorry. I already installed Kubuntu a year ago. I just bought a bigger hard drive and don't want to reinstall. I want to *move* everything linux/Kubuntu off off that one drive and onto the bigger one. I need to edit, fstab and grub and move? is that all?
[04:42] <intelikey> ah  a migration.
[04:42] <vbgunz> I guess you can say that :)
[04:42] <kristjan_> Jucato: could you please look at your /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde - are the "export" lines at very top of the file, or after "#!/bin/sh"?
[04:43] <Jucato> kristjan_: I don't have kde4 installed
[04:43] <intelikey> vbgunz then   sudo fdisk -l     and see what partitions the old disk is using and set the new one accordingly
[04:43] <vbgunz> intelikey, yes. I was going to do that. but to make it successful, I edit fstab and grub. is that all?
[04:44] <kristjan_> can the  "export" lines be placed at the _very_ top of #!/bin/sh ?
[04:44] <Jucato> kristjan_: but mostly everything comes after #!/bin/sh
[04:44] <intelikey>  /boot/grub/devices.list
[04:44] <intelikey> err tab complete that ^
[04:44] <intelikey> i don't think it's plural
[04:44] <Jucato> kristjan_: or rather, all shell scripts must begin with #!/bin/sh (called the shebang)
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> or #!/bin/bash, #!/bin/csh, #!/bin/ksh, etc :)
[04:46] <Jucato> yeah, well... :)
[04:46] <james> does anyone know how to bandwidth throttle users using my ubuntu server as a router?
[04:46] <intelikey> vbgunz yes if grub can boot it   and the root is set to the correct device node that snould be all you need
[04:46] <kristjan_> Jucato: I think this is ok then http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1268/pilt2je0.png ?
[04:47] <Jucato> kristjan_: looks ok to me, if that's what the instructions say. oh and next time, you could just use a pastebin to show text :)
[04:47] <Jucato> !pastebin | kristjan_
[04:47] <ubotu> kristjan_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:47] <bassgoon> hey I put in the dvd, and selected install, its an older 1.2ghz celeron with 512mb of ram...but it seems to be taking a LONG time to load
[04:48] <intelikey> hitmanWilly heh or   #!/usr/bin/expect -e
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> lol
[04:48] <bassgoon> oh
[04:48] <bassgoon> there it goes
[04:48] <bassgoon> but it says user no known to the underlying authentication module
[04:48] <bassgoon> is that normal...?
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> bassgoon: live cd's/dvd's always take awhile
[04:49] <bassgoon> ok
[04:49] <bassgoon> it says failed to read block"
[04:49] <bassgoon> and failed to read page
[04:49] <bassgoon> sound like a bad disc?
[04:49] <intelikey> yep
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> bingo
[04:49] <bassgoon> well...the data verification passed...
[04:49] <intelikey> should  be a disk test option
[04:50] <intelikey> yeah that
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> md5's are not foolproof
[04:50] <bassgoon> well
[04:50] <bassgoon> it passed neros verification
[04:50] <bassgoon> when it burned
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> bad img download possibly as well
[04:50] <kristjan_> haha, it crashed after 4secs I logged in
[04:50] <bassgoon> possible
[04:50] <bassgoon> took so dang long to dl
[04:50] <bassgoon> maybe I'll just try the cd
[04:50] <intelikey> bassgoon no.  on the disk it's self,  one boot option is   test this disk ?
[04:51] <bassgoon> yeah
[04:51] <bassgoon> I'm trying it
[04:51] <intelikey> or verify this disk
[04:51] <bassgoon> this maky take some time...
[04:51] <bassgoon> :p
[04:51] <bassgoon> well thanks for helping an impatient noob :p
[04:52] <bassgoon> what's the difference between an 'alternate' and a 'desktop' iso?
[04:52] <kristjan_> bassgoon: alternate doesn't have livecd
[04:52] <bassgoon> oh
[04:52] <bassgoon> so if I just want to install...
[04:52] <Jucato> bassgoon: Desktop CD = Live CD with graphical installer
[04:53] <Jucato> Alternate Install CD = text-based installer with more advanced options
[04:53] <bassgoon> ah
[04:53] <intelikey> hey at least we didn't do you like the call in support on most things anymore.    they put talking to a machine for at least 5 minutes.   not because they are all busy, oh no. it's so you will cool off and not bless them out...
[04:53] <bassgoon> I can probably swing the text based one
[04:53] <bassgoon> not a total noob
[04:53] <bassgoon> :p
[04:53] <eye_> Does anyone know anything about gtkmm?
[04:54] <Jucato> eye_: try if there's a #gtk channel?
[04:54] <bassgoon> does kubuntu usually recognize all the devices on older dell laptops?
[04:54] <Hatsuyuki> the text mode installer is easy peasy even if you ARE a noob (back when I first tried kubuntu (breezy) there was only text installer)
[04:54] <bassgoon> Hatsuyuki, I've tried a lot of crazy linux distros before
[04:54] <eye_> Jucato, yes! thank you!
[04:55] <bassgoon> I tried gentoo 64, and fc3 x64
[04:55] <Jucato> oh 64-bit...
[04:55] <Hatsuyuki> wouldnt call (k)ubuntu crazy personally but I <3 it sooo... lol
[04:55] <bassgoon> Hatsuyuki, no I wouldn't either
[04:55] <bassgoon> fc3 x64 and 2006.1 gentoo x64
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> bassgoon: u should have np
[04:55] <intelikey> Hatsuyuki some would
[04:55] <bassgoon> crazy
[04:55] <bassgoon> what about linksys wireless cards
[04:56] <Hatsuyuki> true, intelikey
[04:56] <dani> Hi! Quick question, I installed ssh, and my public IP is <IP_ADDRESS>.
[04:56] <intelikey> (crazy) that would be in  #ubuntu    this is #kubuntu we say (krazy) in here...  :)
[04:56] <Hatsuyuki> lol
[04:57] <Hatsuyuki> very true
[04:57] <bassgoon> in #ubuntu wouldn't it be grazy?
[04:57] <bassgoon> rofl
[04:57] <Hatsuyuki> lol, could be
[04:57] <dani> I tried to connect from my job, an Internal Network. I get into the login screen (konsole) somehow my authentication credentials never works...
[04:57] <intelikey> gcrazy
[04:57] <dani> ... am I missing something?
[04:57] <bassgoon> intelikey, there you go
[04:58] <Hatsuyuki> indeed (not that I have a problem with gtk apps tho)
[04:58] <bassgoon> is a 1.2ghz celeron a more likely candidate for xubuntu?
[04:58] <intelikey> dani using a password or a key
[04:58] <intelikey> ?
[04:58] <kristjan_> nah, I'll try kde4 with that livecd instead
[04:58] <Dhraakellian> $ glxgears
[04:58] <Dhraakellian> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:58] <Dhraakellian> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[04:59] <dani> what? I'm sorry I didn't catch you intelikey....
[04:59] <Jucato> kristjan_: much better if you just want to preview it. installing KDE 4 at this point is still for developers
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> bassgoon: you should be alright, this isn't M$ software here
[04:59] <intelikey> bassgoon why ?      i run kubuntu on a p1mmx 100mhz
[04:59] <Hatsuyuki> I've used all three k/x/ubuntu on a 500 mhz athalon mp so it's more a matter of taste, bassgoon
[04:59] <bassgoon> hehe
[04:59] <bassgoon> I know i like kde more
[04:59] <kristjan_> Jucato: yeah it just crashes, but those new icons are nice :)
[04:59] <intelikey> dani your auth method   password or ssh-key
[04:59] <bassgoon> you can easily make it behave like windows explorer ;)
[05:00] <ober0ne> how do you go about mounting an ntfs drive in feisty?
[05:00] <eye_> Jucato, nobody wants to help me :(
[05:00] <bassgoon> ober0ne, personally I avoid mounting ntfs from linux...
[05:00] <bassgoon> :/
[05:00] <ober0ne> lol
[05:00] <dani> Hi! Quick question, I installed ssh, and my public IP is <IP_ADDRESS>.  I tried to connect from my job, an Internal Network. I get into the login screen (konsole) somehow my authentication credentials never works...
[05:00] <ober0ne> I understand that
[05:00] <Jucato> eye_: did they say that? or is it just because no one replies? big difference there
[05:00] <Hatsuyuki> I dont know ober0ne, I have no ntfs drives
[05:01] <Dhraakellian> hmm... correct monitor (IBM 6557 P92), correct graphics card (geforce2 with proprietary drivers)
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> ober0ne: either as type ntfs, (read-only), or with ntfs-3g (rw)
[05:01] <intelikey> dani i saw that.    are you "typing in a password"   or using an ssh-key for the authentication ?
[05:01] <ober0ne> I just got the 3g package a few minutes ago, but I can't seem to find where it installed to
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> ober0ne: just mount it normal w/ type ntfs-3g
[05:02] <GWillakers> dani, what's the pw, i'll try from here! :)
[05:02] <ober0ne> ok, so how do I do that?
[05:02] <ober0ne> what command do I enter in the terminal?
[05:02] <ober0ne> sudo mount sda1?
[05:02] <intelikey> GWillakers heh  i though of that...
[05:02] <Hatsuyuki> ober0ne: you can check in adept/synaptic where it installed to
[05:03] <eye_> Jucato. Sorry, no one replies. I don't speak English very well, so I say that because it's too hard for me to explain me
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> ober0ne: mount -t ntfs-3g </device> </mount/point>
[05:03] <ober0ne> how do I know my mountpoint?
[05:03] <GWillakers> I'm jazzed... there was a samba update today that fixed all of my networking problems!!
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> !mount | ober0ne
[05:03] <ubotu> ober0ne: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:04] <Jucato> eye_: well, this is IRC support. just because no one replies doesn't mean they don't "want" to help. it just means that 1) no one there to read your questions (lots of people just lurk around), 2) those who can read it don't know the answer
[05:04] <ober0ne> !diskmounter
[05:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[05:04] <intelikey> sudo mount -o fmask=111,dmask=000 -t ntfs-3g </dev/device-node> </mount/point>
[05:05] <intelikey> eye_ you might find a support channel that talks your tongue
[05:05] <eye_> Ok, Jucato, I Know, I'm so sorry, you know what it happen
[05:05] <eye_> Jucato, I know that www.gtkmm.org exists, but all is in English, so I don't understand
[05:06] <Jucato> ah, well... sorry couldn't help you out
[05:07] <intelikey> !es | eye_
[05:07] <ubotu> eye_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:09] <eye_> intelikey, yes, but nobody knows about that, thank you, and you many times had help me and never says me that I don't speak English
[05:11] <intelikey> eye_ we do what we can.      and your english is better than mine sometimes
[05:11] <ober0ne> thanks... got it running
[05:12] <ober0ne> no reason now for me to ever go back to windoze!
[05:12] <ober0ne> *maniacal laugh*
[05:12] <intelikey> wasn't in the first place...
[05:12] <intelikey> :)
[05:12] <Hatsuyuki> grats, ober0ne
[05:12] <ober0ne> tnx
[05:12] <Jack3_> hey guys
[05:12] <Jack3_> small rpoblme
[05:13] <Jack3_> the swap isnt mountin still
[05:13] <ober0ne> thanks to vlc, I can watch DVD's, listen to all my music, and thanks to you guys I can still use my windows partition
[05:13] <ober0ne> I love you guys
[05:13] <intelikey> Jack3_ can you enable it manually ?
[05:13] <Hatsuyuki> did your fstb someone get messed up, Jack3_?
[05:13] <Jack3_> how??/
[05:13] <eye_> jajaja, intelikey, I'm sorry, I forgot that you're not from US, And thank you for all!
[05:13] <intelikey> Jack3_   sudo swapon /dev/sda6
[05:13] <intelikey> eye_ welcome.
[05:14] <Jack3_> swapon: cannot stat /dev/sda6: No such file or directory
[05:14] <dr_willis> i use vlc under windows even. :)
[05:14] <Jack3_> but thats probably cause im using chroot in the mounted sda5
[05:14] <Jack3_> from the livecd
[05:14] <linuxnobb> hi, is 7.0 beta?
[05:14] <linuxnobb> which one is the damn stable version for christ sake!!!!
[05:15] <intelikey> yeah.   the device nodes are not there Jack3_    you can try out of the chroot.
[05:15] <dr_willis> feisty was just released.
[05:15] <dr_willis> its now considered stable.
[05:15] <Hatsuyuki> feisty 7.04 is stable
[05:15] <linuxnobb> ok thanks
[05:15] <intelikey> Jack3_ same command not in the chroot
[05:15] <Alpha_Cluster> does anyone here know if qt4-dev-tools is supposed to add menu items cause i thought it did
[05:15] <linuxnobb> wheew
[05:15] <dr_willis> its  not the "long term support" canadite however. :)
[05:15] <dr_willis> i think..
[05:15] <Hatsuyuki> nope, not LTS
[05:16] <Hatsuyuki> but veryt put together =)
[05:16] <linuxnobb> so is or isn't it???
[05:16] <dr_willis> isent what?
[05:16] <tin> linuxnobb: depends what you mean by stable
[05:16] <dr_willis> its stable but not LTS :)
[05:16] <Hatsuyuki> it's the curent stable and there is a LTS called dapper
[05:16] <linuxnobb> by stable I mean for a non techie non-geeky person
[05:16] <dr_willis> so if you were a business.... you most likely would want to use LTS.
[05:16] <Hatsuyuki> both are supported right now
[05:17] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: Qt4 Designer isn't in your menus?
[05:17] <linuxnobb> na, this is for home use
[05:17] <tin> it contains "stable" (not beta) software, but hasn't been designated as a "long term support" release
[05:17] <Jack3_> swapon: /dev/sda6: Device or resource busy
[05:17] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: no its confusing me >.<
[05:17] <Hatsuyuki> then I'd go for feisty personally, linuxnobb
[05:17] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: nothing in K Menu -> Development?
[05:17] <intelikey> linuxnobb it was released,  so no longer in the development stage,    i.e. not beta  not alpha
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> Jack3_: that means its probably already on
[05:17] <linuxnobb> OMFG!!!
[05:17] <Jack3_> well soemthing is really wrong
[05:17] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: just KDevelop which i also have installed
[05:17] <linuxnobb> 1/2 beta??
[05:17] <linuxnobb> lol
[05:17] <Jack3_> when i login from normal kubuntu, the kde window manager doesnt load
[05:17] <Hatsuyuki> no, it's stable
[05:17] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: if you just installed it, and it didn't happen to update automatically, try running this command "kbuildsycoca --incremental" ignore the errors
[05:18] <linuxnobb> ok 7.0 right?
[05:18] <Jack3_> just a konsole pops up, it has no close or minimize buttons on it
[05:18] <Hatsuyuki> 7.04
[05:18] <linuxnobb> thanks
[05:18] <intelikey> Jack3_ maybe not.     what does    free   tell you ?
[05:18] <Jack3_> and trying kded says its already running
[05:18] <Hatsuyuki> np
[05:18] <Jack3_> free?
[05:18] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: still no
[05:18] <Jack3_> swap says 1028120 free
[05:18] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: hm.. try if qt designer is installed at all... I forgot the executable name
[05:18] <intelikey> yeah   if the swap partition is active   free   will show it
[05:19] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: I think "designer"
[05:19] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: ah my bad
[05:19] <tin> Jack3_: why are you running chroot'ed from the liveCD kernel?
[05:19] <Jucato> qt designer is only a "recommends", not a "depends". no it doesn't install any GUI app it seems
[05:19] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: just did that with reinstaling it and nothing
[05:19] <Jack3_> tin, i duno :\
[05:20] <Jack3_> i just have lots of problems
[05:20] <Jack3_> and its impossible to work sincei have 1 computer
[05:20] <linuxnobb> c'mon Shuttleworth make KDE4 stable fast!! can't wait..
[05:20] <Jack3_> :(
[05:20] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: qt4-dev-tools doesn't seem to install any GUI app. probably comand line tools only
[05:20] <tin> problems like you can't boot straight to the disk?
[05:20] <dr_willis>  swapon -s    gives a bit of info.
[05:20] <intelikey> Jack3_ then the swap partition is active and about 1G in size.     boot the system and run    free    and see if it's activated there.
[05:20] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: well i also have qt4-designer installed but that isnt appearing
[05:20] <Jucato> ok that's weird...
[05:20] <intelikey> hehhe  -root: swapon: command not found
[05:20] <Alpha_Cluster> lol yeah it is
[05:21] <linuxnobb> look, how long KDE4 will take to become stable?
[05:21] <Alpha_Cluster> and when i try and run qt4-designer it says it doesnt exist
[05:21] <dr_willis> i am guessing at least 6 mo.
[05:21] <dr_willis> perhaps more then a year.
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> linuxnobb: supposedly by the end of the year
[05:21] <Hatsuyuki> according to the release shedule it's planned on being released in october
[05:21] <Jack3_> intelikey, i know its not activated on the system
[05:21] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: how about running it with "designer" only?
[05:22] <Jack3_> when i did ubuntu failsafe
[05:22] <Jack3_> i typed startx
[05:22] <voidmage> linuxnobb: october 23 (5 days after gutsy release) is current release date
[05:22] <Jack3_> and it started kde and all
[05:22] <Jack3_> so i did ctrl esc
[05:22] <dr_willis> i hate to see things rushed to just meet a deadlline.
[05:22] <Jack3_> and it said no swap available
[05:22] <Jucato> s/current/target
[05:22] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: ok yeah then it works
[05:22] <Alpha_Cluster> got wonderful QT 4.2.3 designer
[05:22] <linuxnobb> this is retarded European servers are faster than USA Empire
[05:22] <intelikey> Jack3_ why failsafe ?
[05:22] <Jucato> dr_willis: knowing KDE, it won't probably release in 23 Oct if it's not ready yet ;)
[05:23] <dr_willis> Jucato,  yep - i hope not.
[05:23] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: there you have it :)
[05:23] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: lol thanks
[05:23] <Alpha_Cluster> i feel stupid now lol
[05:23] <Hatsuyuki> which means gutsy +1 will more then likely be the first release I try KDE4 lol
[05:23] <Jucato> dr_willis: of course, I don't want them to release in 2008 either :P
[05:23] <dr_willis> given how its such a big jump. Ive not even tested any of the kde4 releases/betas stuff
[05:23] <Jack3_> intelikey, because normal ubuntu doesnt start
[05:23] <Jack3_> as i said
[05:23] <Jucato> Hatsuyuki: most probably *not*
[05:23] <Jack3_> the kde doesnt start, just a console sometimes
[05:23] <Jack3_> i really dont know what im doing but i know something is really wrong
[05:23] <Alpha_Cluster> Ah i just cant wait till we get at least some more usable version
[05:23] <Hatsuyuki> enough time for some post-release bug fixes, lol
[05:23] <Hatsuyuki> why, Jucato?
[05:23] <Jucato> anyway, they will be releasing separate KDE 4 packages, or maybe even CD's for it
[05:24] <Jucato> Hatsuyuki: they're planning 8.04 to be the next LTS
[05:24] <Hatsuyuki> ah, okay
[05:24] <Jucato> and they don't want KDE 4.0 on an LTS release
[05:24] <Alpha_Cluster> yeah so we wont see KDE4 as default till afetr
[05:24] <Hatsuyuki> makes sense
[05:24] <Alpha_Cluster> though isnt there supposed to be avalable as an alt?
[05:24] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: that's the plan
[05:25] <Hatsuyuki> so gutsy +2 then... should be quite stable by then I think
[05:25] <Jucato> a separate CD.
[05:25] <linuxnobb> guys is the alternate install with LVM support LiveCD?
[05:25] <Alpha_Cluster> Hatsuyuki: i hope so
[05:25] <Alpha_Cluster> lol
[05:25] <Jucato> anyway, we already have separate KDE repositories anyway
[05:25] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: yeah but 4 is still not very nice lol
[05:25] <Hatsuyuki> true but they always seem buggy for me..
[05:25] <intelikey> Jack3_ ok.    being the confused communications and the haphazard system.   i'll just resort to answering your questions.   and stop making things more perplexing.
[05:25] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: it's called Alpha for a reason :)
[05:25] <linuxnobb> guys!!! is alternate install with LVM support?
[05:25] <linuxnobb> please somebody
[05:26] <Jucato> Hatsuyuki: yes, it's "Alpha" :)
[05:26] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: oh i know lol but i want to do some development stuff lol
[05:26] <Jucato> linuxnobb: yes
[05:26] <Jack3_> anyways, i really dont know what to do
[05:26] <Alpha_Cluster> im a CS student that is just about to be going on Summer break
[05:26] <Hatsuyuki> I meant even when a new KDE 3.5 gets packaged
[05:26] <Alpha_Cluster> to say the least you guys will see me a bit here lol
[05:26] <Jack3_> because something is causing a major problem, and it seems like it might be swap, but i dunno how to fix that
[05:27] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: well, the presumption would be you should already know your way around a bit if you want to do development stuff. anyway, #kubunt-devel would be a nice place to ask about the kde4 packages and #kde4-devel for KDE 4 development
[05:27] <Hatsuyuki> the ones in dapper/edgy were always buggy for me
[05:27] <intelikey> Jack3_ just a thought i'd like to share though.   unless your system has less than 64m ram,  then swap not being active is probably not the cause of kde not starting correctly.
[05:27] <Jack3_> ive got 512mb
[05:27] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: yeah i figured so but im just waiting till more stuff is ready in it till i try out too much stuff
[05:27] <Jucato> Hatsuyuki: well it depends. for example KDE 3.5.4 was a relatively buggy release really
[05:27] <Jack3_> is there some error log i can check?
[05:28] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: well, part of helping in development is trying to report bugs/problems in the packages. they can't fix what they don't know :)
[05:28] <intelikey> yes Jack3_ in /var/log/    check xorg*   and messages
[05:28] <Hatsuyuki> the release that goes into the official kubuntu releases always seems fine so I've decided to stick with them til next kubuntu release (though I have no probs updating amarok/koffice ;) )
[05:28] <intelikey> Jack3_ also might look for any   kdm*  files.
[05:28] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: lol i need to boot into it first and i still have a small fear of entering long lists of terminal commands and hoping not to break an install so im looking at gettin down teh qt basics first
[05:29] <Jucato> "i still have a small fear of entering long lists of terminal commands" <--- first thing you have to overcome as an aspiring developer :D
[05:29] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: i know >.<
[05:30] <Alpha_Cluster> its not so much the fact its a lot of commands i just am scared of breaking stuff with kde4 libs lol
[05:30] <Jucato> oh don't worry. the kde4 packages on Kubuntu are installed in a completely different location from kde3
[05:30] <Alpha_Cluster> True
[05:30] <Jucato> so there's a low chance of any breakage
[05:30] <Jucato> of course, there's another "better" way if you want
[05:30] <intelikey> a command string is not long until it's over 1k chars
[05:31] <Jucato> compile KDE from source
[05:31] <Alpha_Cluster> lol yeah
[05:31] <Alpha_Cluster> i hope to get to that point
[05:31] <Jucato> well  he did say "long lists" not "long commands" :)
[05:31] <intelikey> oh. sorry.  was busy with someone and only caught the tail of that.
[05:32] <Alpha_Cluster> lol its the breaking i fear not the length so much
[05:32] <Alpha_Cluster> i mean ive even tried LFS
[05:32] <Jucato> backup backup backup :)
[05:32] <intelikey> rewind ?
[05:32] <Alpha_Cluster> lol yeah i got that one down now after my last fiasco >.<
[05:32] <Jucato> developers developers developers
[05:32] <intelikey> oh backup
[05:32] <Alpha_Cluster> ahh ballmer is here
[05:32] <Jucato> :) :) :)
[05:33] <Jucato> :P
[05:33] <Rictoo> What would be the alt+F4 equivalent in kubuntu?
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo: alt-f4
[05:34] <Alpha_Cluster> lol
[05:34] <Alpha_Cluster> wow i broke emacs i think
[05:34] <intelikey> Rictoo alt+f4  usually
[05:34] <Jucato> Rictoo: Alt+F4 and Ctrl+Q
[05:35] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+esc
[05:35] <Jucato> Alt+F4 technically closes the window, Ctrl+Q quits the app
[05:35] <Jucato> so Alt+F4 doesn't always quit the app
[05:35] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+esc  runs xkill ?
[05:35] <Rictoo> ok, thanks jucato
[05:35] <Jucato> intelikey: only on KDE :)
[05:35] <Jucato> (unless you set it in GNOME)
[05:36] <intelikey> "What would be the alt+F4 equivalent in kubuntu?"  << i assumed kde.
[05:36] <Jucato> Ctrl+Alt+Esc runs xkill and commits GUI-cide
[05:36] <Jucato> yeah :)
[05:36] <intelikey> guiside ?
[05:36] <intelikey> i like
[05:37] <Jack3_> ugh
[05:37] <Jack3_> im so confused
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> wouldn't that be ctrl-alt-bksp for the guicide
[05:37] <Jack3_> i cant understand these logs and they go on for pages
[05:37] <ubuntu> Halp!
[05:37] <ubuntu> My Grub Pretneds to boot
[05:37] <ubuntu> Pretends
[05:37] <ubuntu> Rictoo: Alt+F4
[05:37] <ubuntu> Hello?
[05:37] <ubuntu> Eeeek
[05:37] <Jucato> hitmanWilly: that would be X-cide :)
[05:37] <Rictoo> ...
[05:37] <intelikey> hitmanWilly that would be  xicide
[05:37] <Hatsuyuki> lol
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:37] <Rictoo> whu r u
[05:37] <Jucato> oh intelikey says it better though :P
[05:37] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu: ask your question in a full sentence
[05:38] <Jucato> Rictoo: he just lagged
[05:38] <ubuntu> Admiral_Chicago: Will do
[05:38] <ubuntu>  I booted up my box and it told me that there was no hard drive
[05:38] <Rictoo> lol
[05:38] <ubuntu>  I pulled off all cables and reattached and the hard drive showed up
[05:38] <Rictoo> ubuntu, is the hdd ide?
[05:38] <Rictoo> oh
[05:38] <Hatsuyuki> thats weird, did you check it out in a livecd, ubuntu
[05:38] <ubuntu>  noow it get to Grub 1.5 and sits there
[05:38] <ubuntu> Hatsuyuki: Check my Nick :)
[05:39] <ubuntu> The Live cd wouldn't boot up either though :(
[05:39] <ubuntu> After going through a few CDs it worked
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> that may be a hardware problem...
[05:40] <ubuntu> Hi Hobbsee
[05:40] <ubuntu> hitmanWilly: Well that's why I'm asking for help
[05:40] <ubuntu> How do I diagnose a non booting non errored Grub?
[05:41] <Jack3_> is tehre such a thing as a repair instll
[05:41] <Hatsuyuki> broken hdd maybe?
[05:41] <Admiral_Chicago> !boot
[05:41] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[05:41] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu: look at boot options, that might have some options
[05:41] <goat> bedtime for BoBo.... thanks again to all who helped
[05:41] <linuxnobb> guys
[05:41] <ubuntu> Admiral_Chicago: It doesn't get that far
[05:41] <Admiral_Chicago> really?
[05:41] <linuxnobb> when will be KDE4 become stable?
[05:41] <Hobbsee> hi ubuntu
[05:41] <Jack3_> is there sucha  thing as a repairrrrrrrrr instal?
[05:41] <linuxnobb> I can't wait
[05:42] <ubuntu_> this is not live.  this is memorex
[05:42] <Admiral_Chicago> linuxnobb: about octotober
[05:42] <ubuntu> linuxnobb: When it's done
[05:42] <Hatsuyuki> that question has already been answred, linuxnobb
[05:42] <ubuntu> Jack3_: It's called a Live CD
[05:42] <Jucato> linuxnobb: you will have to wait
[05:42] <ubuntu> linuxnobb: and you will have to
[05:42] <linuxnobb> ubuntu, that's not an answer
[05:42] <Jack3_> how do i repair from the livecd
[05:42] <ubuntu> Mind reader
[05:42] <linuxnobb> that sux
[05:42] <goat> linuxnobb   thats like asking when will ubuntu 8.0X be released or whens the next winblows going to be released
[05:42] <ubuntu> linuxnobb: Novemeber
[05:42] <Jucato> linuxnobb: target date is October 23, 2007. that's just tentative
[05:43] <linuxnobb> lol@winblows
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> linuxnobb: are we there yet? :)
[05:43] <ubuntu_> my grub hurts
[05:43] <Jucato> linuxnobb: but still means you will have to wait
[05:43] <Jack3_> helo?
[05:43] <ubuntu> Admiral_Chicago: Yeah You know you have teh Grub Loading then grub 1.5 or Grub 2 loading then the grub menu?
[05:43] <ubuntu> Jack3_: helo
[05:43] <Jack3_> how can i perform a repair install?
[05:43] <Hatsuyuki> night night
[05:43] <ubuntu> Jack3_: What do YOU call a repair install?
[05:43] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu: i'd suggest looking at something like SuperGrub and that might help
[05:44] <goat> the only thing I know is I get payed on the 15th and 1st of every month... and winblows helps me get those checks  =)
[05:44] <Jack3_> i dont know, something to revert settings to normal :\
[05:44] <ubuntu> Admiral_Chicago: Is it mild mannered and will report to me?
[05:44] <Jack3_> i just want my ubuntu to work again, i didnt do anything to it
[05:44] <Admiral_Chicago> goat: great...but that belongs in #kubuntu-offtopic really
[05:44] <ubuntu> Jack3_: What's wrong now?
[05:44] <Jack3_> and it just dies on me::::(
[05:44] <Jack3_> everythign
[05:44] <Jack3_> kde wont start
[05:44] <Jack3_> everything else doesnt start
[05:44] <ubuntu> Jack3_: Is that all?
[05:44] <Jack3_> swap isnt working
[05:44] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu: that was to you, i don't have much experience with grub...sorrp
[05:44] <goat> agreed admiral.. and with that I bid you all farewell
[05:44] <ubuntu> You can't get to a Command line
[05:44] <Jack3_> i can
[05:45] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu: nope sorry
[05:45] <ubuntu> Jack3_: Swap fails?
[05:45] <ubuntu> May want to do a hard drive test
[05:45] <ubuntu_> Admiral_Chicago me ?
[05:45] <ubuntu_> Admiral_Chicago sorry  i missed it.   i'll scroll up
[05:46] <Jack3_> ive tried formatting the swap
[05:46] <ubuntu_> ah super-grub
[05:46] <ubuntu> Jack3_: How much Physical RAM do you have?
[05:46] <Jack3_> screw it, ill just backup everything and reformat
[05:46] <Jack3_> 5122
[05:46] <Jack3_> 512
[05:46] <ubuntu> Ow
[05:46] <ubuntu> Hmm
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> should still boot kde tho, even w/out swap
[05:47] <Jack3_> well i dunno
[05:47] <Jack3_> i just had the oddest problem
[05:47] <ubuntu> Jack3_: ok what else goes wrong?
[05:47] <Jack3_> i had 4 gb free
[05:47] <Jack3_> and then i installed wine from source and all
[05:48] <Jack3_> and i trid to install a program, and it said 0b was free?
[05:48] <Jack3_> so i checked konqueror, and it said 0b was free also, so i deleted 600mb of files
[05:48] <ubuntu> Why from source?
[05:48] <Jack3_> still 0b free
[05:48] <ubuntu_> empty the trash
[05:48] <Jack3_> yes i emptied the trash
[05:48] <Jack3_> anyways, i reboot
[05:48] <ubuntu> Jack3_: Ducks it
[05:48] <Rictoo`> Crap, no questions pelase, what's alt+F4 in linux, again?
[05:48] <ubuntu> You can get to a command line ?
[05:48] <Rictoo`> Crap, no questions pelase, what's alt+F4 in linux, again?
[05:48] <Jack3_> and then when i tried to login the screen went black and then went back tothelogin screen
[05:48] <ubuntu> Rictoo`: Don't double post
[05:49] <Rictoo`> ALT+F4 is for closing the window
[05:49] <Rictoo`> I want the shortcut to close the app
[05:49] <ubuntu> Rictoo`: Ctrl+Q
[05:49] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo`: ctrl-q
[05:49] <Rictoo`> What's the shortcut to close an app in linux?
[05:49] <Jack3_> then i found that in root/.local/.Trash/files/ i had 4gb
[05:49] <Rictoo`> ok
[05:49] <Rictoo`> thanks
[05:49] <Jack3_> which WASNT there before
[05:49] <Jack3_> so i deleted that
[05:49] <Jack3_> so now when i start up the konsole will load , but still no kde
[05:49] <ubuntu_> some apps venella  Q   will do
[05:49] <Jack3_> i cant figure out for the life of me how this happened
[05:49] <Admiral_Chicago> Rictoo`: quit
[05:49] <Jack3_> ive compiled wine from src before too
[05:49] <ubuntu> Jack3_: type startx
[05:50] <Admiral_Chicago> like all major operating systems
[05:50] <ubuntu> Jack3_: You can install wine from the packages
[05:50] <ubuntu> !wine
[05:50] <Admiral_Chicago> it is exit a window
[05:50] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:50] <Jack3_> ubuntu, ive done, that, it starts yes
[05:50] <Jack3_> but not everyhting
[05:50] <Jack3_> like knetworkmanager doesnt work, etc, etc
[05:50] <Jack3_> its really broken,
[05:50] <ubuntu> What not everything?
[05:50] <Admiral_Chicago> okay i'm away now. /me waves goodnight to Jucato!! :)
[05:50] <Jack3_> look obviously we arent getting anywhere
[05:50] <Jack3_> this problem cant be fixed
[05:50] <Jack3_> im just gonna reinstall
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> Jack3_: have you tried reconfiguring kde?
[05:50] <Jucato> night Admiral_Chicago!!
[05:51] <Jack3_> the problem is bigger than kde
[05:51] <ubuntu> Night!
[05:51] <Jack3_> bbl
[05:51] <ubuntu> ok
[05:51] <ubuntu> Jack3_: And learn ducks :)
[05:51] <ubuntu_> ubuntu are you on a live cd ?
[05:51] <Jack3_> ducks?
[05:51] <ubuntu> ubuntu_: Yes are you?
[05:51] <ubuntu_> no
[05:52] <Jack3_> whats ducks\
[05:52] <ubuntu> Jack3_: du -cks . | sort -rn | head -11
[05:52] <ubuntu> Shows you what's taking up your space
[05:52] <Jack3_> oh
[05:52] <ubuntu> you can alias all of that to the word ducks
[05:52] <ubuntu> just cd / then type ducks and you see where your space is gone :)
[05:53] <ubuntu> easy to hunt down
[05:53] <ubuntu> So about grub
[05:53] <ubuntu> ls
[05:54] <ubuntu_> i'm looking at a web page that says  Please click on the following button to continue:   but there is no button.
[05:54] <ubuntu_> ubuntu  yes about grub ?
[05:55] <ubuntu> Anyone know how to figure out what's causing it to stall?
[05:55] <ubuntu_> error message ?
[05:55] <ubuntu> No error message
[05:55] <ubuntu_> give more details then
[05:55] <ubuntu> It goes past grub stage one to Grub 1.5
[05:55] <ubuntu> Then says grub loading ...
[05:55] <ubuntu> but never reaches the grub menu
[05:56] <ubuntu_> corrupt stage file ?
[05:56] <ubuntu> Wouldn't that throw an error?
[05:56] <ubuntu_> tried reinstalling it ?
[05:56] <ubuntu> nope
[05:57] <ubuntu_> not if the file had a bad read and corrupted the ram.
[05:57] <ubuntu> o_0
[05:57] <ubuntu> huh?
[05:57] <jza873> hay im having a little problem for some reason konqueror wont display web images and i cant figure out hwo to fix it
[05:58] <jza873> if any one can help with this it would be greatly appreicated
[05:58] <ubuntu> Checked to see if show images was on?
[05:58] <ubuntu_> reading in a corrupt file into something as "simple minded" as grub can cause the base ram to have things that the tiny os can't handle.    grub is not the full kernel you know.
[05:58] <jza873> yea autoload images is on
[05:59] <ubuntu> I'm outta ideas then
[05:59] <ubuntu> ubuntu_: Is there some test I can do on it?
[06:00] <jza873> ok thanks
[06:00] <ubuntu_> ubuntu i'd just reinstall it and see if it clears it up.
[06:00] <ubuntu> jza873: ask in #kde as well
[06:00] <jza873> ok
[06:00] <bassgoon> should it be able to detect my linksys wireless card "out of the box"?
[06:00] <ubuntu_> i'll be right back as me
[06:01] <jza873> does any one know if it is possible to remove konqueror using apt-get remove then load it back on or would that just mess everything up
[06:01] <ubuntu> bassgoon: assuming that your card is supoprted
[06:01] <intelikey> ah better...
[06:01] <ubuntu> jza873: ... yes
[06:01] <ubuntu> jza873: remove konqueror then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:01] <ubuntu> intelikey: than?
[06:01] <bassgoon> where can I find a list?
[06:01] <intelikey> being so generic
[06:02] <ubuntu> !wifi
[06:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:02] <ubuntu> intelikey: heehee :)
[06:02] <jza873> ok ill try that thanks
[06:02] <ubuntu> intelikey: do I have to chroot the / ?
[06:03] <intelikey> no  jsut add the root dir.   -r /mountpoint    i think.
[06:03] <linuxnobb> guys are you sure Alternate CD is LiveCD? the ubuntu says its text based
[06:03] <bassgoon> ubuntu, so if its not on the list...I'm hosed?
[06:03] <linuxnobb> it's gotta be text base
[06:03] <intelikey> maybe man    knows.
[06:04] <ubuntu> linuxnobb: It's not the live cd
[06:04] <ubuntu> it's the alternate cd
[06:04] <ubuntu> bassgoon: Did you read the page i just sent you ?
[06:04] <ubuntu> Well
[06:04] <ubuntu> dsplayed
[06:04] <ubuntu> Didn't actually send it to you
[06:05] <intelikey> ubuntu    sudo grub-install --root-directory=<mountpoint> <device>
[06:05] <ubuntu> hi Mez
[06:05] <mo0osah> how do you make the darn clock 12 hour format
[06:05] <bassgoon> ubuntu, eer I didn't see my card listed
[06:05] <linuxnobb> ubuntu, are you for real? Alternade CD kubuntu is text-based only??!!
[06:05] <ubuntu> bassgoon: ok they have a wifi Howto on the same page
[06:05] <ubuntu>  follow the steps there
[06:05] <ubuntu>  it will help you if your card isn't listed there
[06:05] <intelikey> mo0osah right click it.  and configure lang&whatever
[06:06] <bassgoon> ah, thanks ubuntu
[06:06] <ubuntu> linuxnobb: Yes that's kinda the point
[06:06] <mo0osah> intelikey, i'm there but cant find how to change the format
[06:06] <linuxnobb> OMFG!!!
[06:06] <linuxnobb> i gotta re-download again??!!
[06:06] <ubuntu> linuxnobb: What are you doing with it?
[06:06] <linuxnobb> so LiveCD doesn't support LVM??!!
[06:06] <linuxnobb> I need LVM
[06:07] <linuxnobb> and LiveCD
[06:07] <intelikey> mo0osah it's there someplace.   i've done it.   but don't have kde installed now so can't track it down for you
[06:07] <ubuntu> Oh yeah then use the laternate
[06:07] <linuxnobb> together
[06:07] <ubuntu> it's much easier with that
[06:07] <linuxnobb> but it's not LiveCD
[06:07] <linuxnobb> that's retarded, what does it take to add LVM to liveCD?
[06:07] <ubuntu> mo0osah: try the Date Time format then -> Time and dates -> Date format
[06:07] <ubuntu> linuxnobb: space
[06:08] <ubuntu> intelikey:   sudo grub-install --root-directory=grub /dev/hdb1
[06:08] <ubuntu> that looks right
[06:08] <intelikey> the phrase "live CD"  is so decpetive.    all self installing os's on cd are live cd's    but somehow the term 'live CD' seems to only be used for those with autostarting gui
[06:08] <intelikey> ubuntu no
[06:09] <ubuntu>  where =grub is the folder I mounted to?
[06:09] <intelikey> ubuntu did you mount the installed system on  /grub ?
[06:09] <intelikey> if so then yes.
[06:09] <ubuntu> not /grub ~/grub
[06:09] <intelikey> ok.
[06:09] <intelikey> then yes.
[06:09] <ubuntu> Here goes
[06:09] <intelikey> are you sure /dev/hdb1 is correct ?
[06:10] <intelikey> maybe scsi emulation.    sdb1 ?
[06:10] <ubuntu> I have no /dev/sdanything
[06:10] <ubuntu> And it failed
[06:10] <intelikey> ok then it's not scsi emulation
[06:10] <ubuntu> Running "install --stage2=grub/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/stage1 (hd1,0) (hd1,0)1+20 p (hd1,0)/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/menu.lst"... failed
[06:11] <ubuntu> Error 6: Mismatched or corrupt version of stage1/stage2
[06:11] <intelikey> there you have it.   it is a corrupt   stage file.
[06:11] <ubuntu> My / is XFS
[06:11] <ubuntu> Wonder if that's an issue ...
[06:12] <intelikey> grub and xfs     hmmmm
[06:12] <ubuntu> intelikey: Sooo blow it away and recreate?
[06:12] <intelikey> or add a small boot partition ?
[06:12] <ubuntu> Now?
[06:13] <ses1959_> two questions on thunderbird
[06:13] <ubuntu> I'll do it when KDE4 ships
[06:13] <ses1959_> i would like to add my comments to the top of a reply not at the bottom
[06:13] <intelikey> i'm not sure if it's corrupt because of some  grub/xfs bug   or just a bad file.    wont hurt to rm the ~/grub/boot/grub/stage* files and see what happens.
[06:14] <ses1959_> i have a old thunderbird file that i would like to add to my new account but could not import it
[06:14] <ubuntu> can't I just mv them?
[06:14] <intelikey> sure  :)
[06:14] <ubuntu> They get recreated on the fly ?
[06:14] <ubuntu> or rerun the install ?
[06:14] <intelikey> yes
[06:14] <intelikey> rerun
[06:14] <ubuntu> ok
[06:15] <voidmage> how do i purge the lyrics cache in amarok?'
[06:15] <intelikey> right click ?
[06:16] <intelikey> idk.  i looked at amarok one time.
[06:16] <ubuntu> threw a warnign
[06:16] <intelikey> no errors ?
[06:16] <ubuntu> think I'll save this on the hard drive
[06:16] <ubuntu> Installation finished. No error reported.
[06:16] <intelikey> then it "should" work.
[06:17] <ubuntu> I'm saving the error messages on the drive so I can read them later
[06:17] <intelikey> warning about the number of sectors and some bios issue   that's normal
[06:18] <intelikey> it was writen in the 80's and never moved out of the code    :)
[06:18] <ubuntu> So much for open source :-)
[06:18] <ubuntu> Lets see if this works
[06:19] <jza873_> nope didnt work
[06:19] <jza873_> and on # kde no one wants to talk
[06:19] <intelikey> jza873_ is it beryl ?
[06:20] <jza873_> i have beryl but its not running it started happeneing after i installed this firewall but i removed it
[06:20] <jza873_> im going to remove beryl now because that thing sucks
[06:20] <jza873_> see if that helps
[06:21] <mjponce> #kde ?
[06:21] <jza873_> nope it wasnt beryl
[06:21] <jza873_> yea no one talks on that
[06:22] <intelikey> jza873_ just a note.  you can reset all user prefs. in kde  by removing ~/.kde then logging in.
[06:22] <djbailey> Hey everyone can anyone tell me where the sound directory is
[06:22] <djbailey> im looking to reboot the service and just need the dir
[06:22] <rich__> would anyone message me on how to install beryl? im new to linux, beginner if you will.
[06:22] <intelikey> :)
[06:22] <jza873_> sudo apt-get install beryl
[06:23] <intelikey> djbailey what sound directory ?
[06:23] <intelikey> djbailey what are you looking for ?
[06:23] <rich__> dont i feel stupid.
[06:24] <rich__> Thaks jza874_
[06:24] <jza873_> yea
[06:24] <djbailey> i just want like /etc/sound. whatever so i can restart it
[06:24] <rich__> haha
[06:24] <intelikey> :)
[06:24] <jza873_> its not that cool tho beryl is kind of cool for 3 mins then it just lame
[06:24] <rich__> heres one for your brains..
[06:24] <rich__> what would stupid feel like?
[06:25] <intelikey> djbailey   /etc/init.d/  ?
[06:25] <DaSkreech> Whoot
[06:25] <crimsun> djbailey: we don't have one like that.  What do you really want to do?  Unload and reload the modules?  Restore the default mixer levels?  Both?
[06:25] <rich__> once the install is done
[06:25] <jza873_> ok this all happened when i installed " fiaif "
[06:25] <rich__> what do you do
[06:25] <rich__> just restart?
[06:25] <DaSkreech> And once again * crashes as soon as kde loads
[06:26] <djbailey> i had sound i lost power to my laptop and now my sound does not work
[06:26] <intelikey> jza873_ try firestarter
[06:26] <crimsun> djbailey: ok, so pastebin the output from ``asoundconf list && amixer''
[06:26] <crimsun> djbailey: then tell us the URL
[06:27] <jza873_> yea i got firestarter now
[06:27] <rich__> should i take that as a yes? after the install of beryl. just restart
[06:27] <rich__> ?
[06:27] <intelikey> jza873_ running it might let you undo what ever mess you have made of iptables
[06:27] <djbailey> I got it thanks for the Crimsum
[06:27] <djbailey> i mean Crimsun
[06:27] <jza873_> i removed fiaif but no good it still wont display images its not even like broken links just dont show up
[06:28] <djbailey> i clicked somthing in the sound link and it worked.
[06:28] <jza873_> ok so ill reinstall it and run it and see what happens
[06:28] <intelikey> rich__ i've never messed with beryl
[06:29] <mjponce> #kubuntu-es
[06:29] <rich__> but like.. im confused.. its installed now (i think)
[06:29] <rich__> now what?
[06:29] <rich__> haha
[06:30] <intelikey> !beryl
[06:30] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:30] <DaSkreech> hi crimsun
[06:30] <crimsun> hi.
[06:30] <intelikey> see is there any help there   ^
[06:30] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:30] <jza873_> nah didnt work is ther a way to reset the iptables
[06:30] <DaSkreech> wonder if i should relaunch dbus
[06:31] <bassgoon> anyone know a decent cheap pcmcia wireless card that works easily with linux? all I need is connection, no wep or wpa
[06:31] <jza873_> i even tried to load konqueror through ion3 and still no good
[06:32] <intelikey> jza873_ yeah.     iptables -F    ???  not sure that you wont need to add an 'allow all'   after flushing 'all' though...
[06:33] <intelikey> better first to list
[06:33] <intelikey> see what ya go
[06:33] <intelikey> got
[06:33] <intelikey> gotit
[06:34] <intelikey> my english tobe
[06:34] <intelikey> :)
[06:35] <kalorin`> intelikey: remember to use small bites, else you'll choke
[06:35] <jza873_> nope i dont think its the iptables something bust be blocking it
[06:36] <jza873_> must*
[06:40] <jza873_> any other ideas
[06:41] <Dave-Kubuntu> Heres a ATI Permissions problem i'm having, think you can help? -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21100/
[06:41] <intelikey> reset kde ?       rm -r ~/.kde
[06:42] <jza873_> i thought you show never remove the ~/.kde directory
[06:43] <jza873_> if i did that wont it mess up all my apps
[06:44] <intelikey> reset them to defaults...
[06:44] <DaSkreech> intelikey: You don't like mv do you ?
[06:44] <intelikey> DaSkreech i find it deceptive.
[06:44] <DaSkreech> Why?
[06:45] <jza873_> ill try it
[06:45] <intelikey> if you mv ~/.kde    then while kde is running try to move it back it will ignore most of the stuff.  so why not just rm it to start with.
[06:46] <jza873_> ok i removed it
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Hmm?
[06:46] <DaSkreech> why would you do it IN kde?
[06:46] <intelikey> jza873_ ctrl+alt+backspace   and hope
[06:46] <jza873_> yea i just thought about that just now
[06:46] <jza873_> i have liek 10 desktop managers so hopefully i didnt just mess everything up
[06:46] <jza873_> brb
[06:47] <intelikey> you didn't
[06:48] <Dave-Kubuntu> Heres a ATI Permissions problem i'm having, think you can help? -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21100/
[06:49] <DaSkreech> anyone has planetkde on RSS ?
[06:49] <jza873> it worked
[06:49] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:49] <jza873> now back to reconfigureing everything
[06:49] <jza873> thanks soo mcuh
[06:49] <intelikey> np
[06:49] <jza873> much*
[06:49] <Jucato> DaSkreech: me
[06:50] <DaSkreech> Jucato: can You do a search for Conspiracy ?
[06:50] <DaSkreech>  who made ap ost last week about that ?
[06:50] <Jucato> thomas zander
[06:50] <kalorin`> Dave-Kubuntu: so it doesn't work for a while then starts to work?
[06:50] <kalorin`> that's kind of odd
[06:51] <Dave-Kubuntu> No it starts automaticly but it's slow
[06:51] <DaSkreech> thanks
[06:53] <Dave-Kubuntu> kalorin`: it's not just that too all 3d things are slow and give errors
[06:54] <kalorin`> Dave-Kubuntu: hrms...
[06:54] <kalorin`> Dave-Kubuntu: join #kalorin
[06:57] <jza873> thanks everyone im going to bed back to teh salt mines at embarq
[06:57] <jza873> tomorrow
[06:57] <jza873> later and thanks again
[06:57] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Tomorrow
[06:59] <xlinux_> Allright guys.. ive got a problem to fix
[06:59] <xlinux_> this ones been kicking my arse
[07:02] <DaSkreech> Good to know
[07:02] <kalorin`> xlinux_: you'd have to sign a wavier before I'll offer up my own ass to get kicked by said problem
[07:02] <kalorin`> cause I'll want to be able to recover damages
[07:02] <kalorin`> :)
[07:02] <xlinux_> huh?
[07:03] <red_> it seems that bash auto-complete is not enabled) in my konsole. Where do I need to enable this?
[07:03] <crimsun> red_: ~/.bashrc
[07:03] <Jucato> DaSkreech: why o why?
[07:04] <xlinux_> freezing due to 9755 nvidia driver.. anyone have ideas?
[07:04] <intelikey> ooops.    i just installed grub on the windows partition not the linux partition...    will that work ?
[07:04] <DaSkreech> I was on vacation last week so I left Akregator on to get all the blogs and news goodness
[07:04] <DaSkreech> So of course the machine was turned off a day after I left
[07:04] <Jucato> aw....
[07:05] <DaSkreech> And both planetkde and planetmozilla don't keep more than like a day of back blogs
[07:05] <red_> crimsun: and what's the setting that I have to enable?
[07:05] <Jucato> DaSkreech: oh... :(
[07:05] <intelikey> ok i'll go test it and see if it works...
[07:06] <DaSkreech> Hey!
[07:06] <DaSkreech> anyone kompiled kamion?
[07:07] <crimsun> red_: scroll to the bottom and read the comment.
[07:09] <Tired_> what's a decent onscreen analog clock I can apt-get in a hurry?
[07:09] <Tired_> decent meaning has a second hand
[07:10] <Tired_> google just gives me tray clock packages
[07:11] <Tired_> nvm, found one, sorta
[07:11] <DaSkreech> Which is it ?
[07:11] <Jucato> the clock in the kicker has an analog clock
[07:11] <Tired_> there's a kde screensaver
[07:12] <Jucato> ah that sort of clock?
[07:12] <Tired_> yeah
[07:12] <Jucato> there's also some superkaramba themes I think. not sure about the seconds hand though
[07:12] <Tired_> this will work for me right now
[07:12] <Tired_> stopwatch is broken
[07:12] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[07:15] <xlinux_> which log? I would assume the xorg log
[07:15] <xlinux_> the flashes would make me think xorg, but the fact that the system completely freezes makes me think system
[07:23] <xlinux_> anyone know anything about issues with video cards
[07:28] <dsmith_> anyone know how to turn rarok on at a certain time in the AM?
[07:28] <dsmith_> amarok
[07:28] <kalorin`> dsmith, get primitive on it, crontab ;)
[07:29] <dsmith_> never had to do one
[07:29] <dsmith_> lol
[07:29] <dsmith_> ok
[07:29] <kalorin`> it's cake
[07:29] <kalorin`> crontab -e
 <hour> <day> <month> <dayofweek> <command>
[07:29] <kalorin`> so
[07:29] <kalorin`> 30 01 * * * bash TimeForBed.sh
[07:29] <kalorin`> for instance
[07:30] <kalorin`> every day, of every month, every day of the week at 1:30am go to bed
[07:30] <kalorin`> :)
[07:30] <dsmith_> hmmm
[07:30] <kalorin`> welp
[07:30] <kalorin`> my system is going to 7.04 now
[07:30] <kalorin`> this ought to be a ton of fun
[07:31] <dsmith_> heh
[07:31] <dsmith_> i am holding off
[07:31] <kalorin`> <--- clicked next
[07:31] <dsmith_> i just did a dual boot other day
[07:31] <belred> irc.freenode.net
[07:31] <kalorin`> I was too but found out my grades for the quarter so I have a week to put the box back together if it doesn't go so well
[07:31] <dsmith_> resized my win part down to 1gb of free space
[07:31] <kalorin`> I need to redo my winXP vmware instance down from 50gb to something more reasonable
[07:32] <kalorin`> autoexpand it or something
[07:33] <dsmith_> sudo required?
[07:34] <kalorin`> shouldn't be
[07:34] <kalorin`> depends if you let users on your system use cron
[07:34] <dsmith_> hmmmm
[07:34] <dsmith_> kcron
[07:34] <dsmith_> whats this
[07:34] <kalorin`> not sure
[07:34] <kalorin`> ok to bed with me
[07:34] <dsmith_> cyas
[07:35] <kalorin`> system wants me to close all applications so things don't blow up on the upgrade
[07:35] <dsmith_> heh
[07:35] <dsmith_> BOOM
[07:35] <kalorin`> can't end well
[07:35] <dsmith_> breakage
[07:35] <kalorin`> ah well
[07:35] <kalorin`> heh
[07:35] <kalorin`> we'll see
[07:36] <kalorin`> !ati
[07:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:36] <kalorin`> might as well get the directions now just in case
[07:42] <Rictoo> This might sound odd, but I'm gonna leave my computer on all night, and I don't wanna waste cpu power
[07:42] <Rictoo> is there anything big and useful I can download?
[07:42] <Rictoo> (No, I don't want Folding@Home :P)
[07:43] <kalorin`> set a hibernate in the bios?
[07:43] <Rictoo> But i want my computer on
[07:43] <Rictoo> +p
[07:43] <kalorin`> with wake on lan and mouse or something
[07:43] <kalorin`> it's on then
[07:43] <kalorin`> it's just not doing anything
[07:43] <Rictoo> but I wanna use cpu :D
[07:43] <kalorin`> sorry nothing I cna think of
[07:43] <Rictoo> :/
[07:47] <dettoaltrimenti> is there any way I can check what device my keyboard is in /dev/input?
[07:48] <esunder> i installed the php command line interpreter, what do i need to connect to a mysql database, when i try to i get "Call to undefined function mysql_connect()"
[07:48] <esunder> i am assuming i need another package but im not sure which one, anyone know?
[07:50] <Vuen> hey guys, when i burn a data dvd with k3b, it doesn't mount automatically. i have to mount it manually in a terminal.
[07:50] <Vuen> anyone know what's wrong?
[07:51] <Vuen> it also works perfectly fine in windows
[07:51] <Vuen> but even after restarting the computer, if i put in a data dvd i burned into the cdrom drive while kubuntu is running, nothing happens
[07:55] <bassgoon> I seem to recall knoppix having a wizard to set the desktop behavior to ms windows style, does kubuntu have that?
[07:57] <nceterval> I just upgraded to Feisty and am having trouble mounting an encrypted partition during the boot process.  When I was using Edgy, this was accomplished with cryptsetup create name /dev/hffa7.  Now it appears that there is no such device.  How can I track down the appropriate device?
[07:58] <Ichilegend> hello bassgoon, Fedoora had that wizard too, but it is not in Kubuntu, you have to set the settings else ways
[07:58] <bassgoon> ack...
[07:59] <Ichilegend> Yeah, I actually got used to it since i Double click my title bar in a window to maximize/restore a window
[08:07] <nceterval> Hmm, if anyone's interested, I think hda got renamed to sda in the upgrade.
[08:07] <nceterval> Odd
[08:08] <Ichilegend> Has anyone here used Jinzora?  I just installed it as my second LAMP application.
[08:10] <ranjan> looking for help with selecting between cowan a2 mp3 player and wolverine esp mp3 player, any inputs?
[08:11] <Ichilegend> ranjan, are you asking or offering?
[08:11] <ranjan> asking
[08:11] <ranjan> i have read about a lot and narrowed down to those 2, but still deciding
[08:11] <ranjan> i need help
[08:13] <Ichilegend> hmmm, I haven't used those before... let me give a quick google to see what they are...
[08:14] <ranjan> thanks Ichilegend
[08:14] <ranjan> appreciate the effort
[08:15] <Ichilegend> wow, those are some niiiice players
[08:16] <ranjan> so what do u think?
[08:16] <Ichilegend> The cowan one is vey sexy looking... are they priced similar?
[08:16] <ranjan> wolverine is more picey
[08:17] <ranjan> but wolverine also has a model called MVP which is available in only one color which is horrid that is equal in price to cowan
[08:19] <Ichilegend> hmmm, I like the cowan (based on my 3minute overview!)
[08:20] <Ichilegend> It may have a smaller hard drive, but it looks like they thoght up the extras
[08:20] <ranjan> is that based on looks or features?
[08:21] <Ichilegend> well the looks are better, but I (personally mind you) would use the Divix Xvid features plus sub title file integration
[08:21] <Ichilegend> The size seems more compact
[08:21] <Ichilegend> etc.
[08:22] <Ichilegend> The Wolverine looks more universal, it has a ton of memory card inputs and you can get it up to 160GB
[08:22] <ranjan> exactly my thoughts, but i am tempted by the hdisk size and loose any external storage device
[08:22] <Ichilegend> actually both would be a liitle more than I would use, they both put my iPod to shame
[08:23] <ranjan> a 130 GB external usn hdd would compensate wolverines cost
[08:23] <Skrot-> Hi, I've downloaded the source of kdeutils using "apt-get source kdeutils" and applied a few patches to it, now how can I make it a .deb package?
[08:23] <ranjan> + 30 GB for music would be great
[08:24] <Ichilegend> but if you are a movie buff or have a s&*t ton of mp3's the Wolverine would be the obvious choice.  Just read your 130 gb comment ...bery tru
[08:24] <Ichilegend> very true
[08:25] <ranjan> thanks Ichilegend
[08:25] <ranjan> i am still undecided
[08:25] <ranjan> lol
[08:25] <hjacob> How would I downgrade a package using fx aptitude?
[08:25] <ranjan> both have great reviews on amazon! so i know both will be good players
[08:25] <Ichilegend> They are both pretty cool looking.  Either would be good to have.  I am cheap though and the cheaper one looks cooler ;)  my 3 minute-no-money-exchanged-vote would go to cowan.
[08:25] <fulat2k> any idea if ubuntustudio theme/icons can be  used in kubuntu?
[08:26] <ranjan> fulat2k: yes just add their repository
[08:26] <ranjan> update
[08:26] <ranjan> and download the artwork meta package
[08:26] <ranjan> oops only in ubunru not in kubuntu
[08:27] <fulat2k> ranjan: that's what i'm afraid of :(
[08:27] <fulat2k> oh well.
[08:28] <ranjan> fulat2k: make one yourself...
[08:28] <fulat2k> time to readup..::P
[08:29] <ranjan> fulat2k: not too hard... just downlaod some existing themes from kde-look and see how its done
[08:30] <Ichilegend> All of the files are svg ones right? You could make your own theme if it can't be found elsewhere rithgt?
[08:33] <ranjan> Porn.com Domain Sold for $9 Million!
[08:33] <insmod> ranjan: nice
[08:33] <Ichilegend> lol and on the day Jerry faldwell died?  sad
[08:35] <ranjan> lol
[08:35] <ranjan> Ichilegend: cowan also has a model called D2, with touch screen control, no buttons for controls, is that a good option?
[08:36] <Ichilegend> So I just set up Jinzora today on LAMP and it is awesome.  A couple small probs, but basically it is like having your own shoutcast network.
[08:36] <Ichilegend> @ranjan, Touchsreen can be good
[08:37] <Ichilegend> I dunno, I just got a Garmin GPS system for my car that is completely touch screen and it is awesome, i guees it depends on the interface
[08:38] <ranjan> i agree, if done well it can be great
[08:38] <ranjan> can be equally bad if not well thought out
[08:38] <Ichilegend> Ipod = 1 button and a wheel for every function.  If touch is the only interface and it is done right... perfect!
[08:39] <ranjan> Ichilegend: my wife has a 30 gb video ipod
[08:39] <mo0osah> any simple way to minimize firefox and thunderbird to tray?
[08:39] <ranjan> the only thing i hate about it is DRM
[08:40] <ranjan> mo0osah: by pressing the minimize button
[08:40] <mo0osah> to tray???
[08:40] <ranjan> to tray?
[08:40] <Ichilegend> @mo0osah, adding the Desktop Access applet to the task bar
[08:40] <ranjan> oh
[08:41] <Ichilegend> Right click the panel (taskbar) add applet and add show desktop
[08:41] <roller> hello
[08:42] <Ichilegend> click the show desktop icon to minimize all
[08:42] <Ichilegend> Hello
[08:42] <roller> can you help me- music playing but i cant hear it
[08:42] <Ichilegend> ok
[08:42] <Ichilegend> Can you give more info?
[08:43] <roller> aaa comp couldt configure sound card
[08:43] <ranjan> whats the sound card?
[08:43] <roller> how i cant see my sound card??
[08:44] <crimsun> roller: please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the script linked from that page.
[08:47] <Ichilegend> cat /proc/asound/cards        <= This command may suggest the card, but not if it goes unidentified
[08:49] <roller>  0 [SB             ] : HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
[08:49] <dhakatel> hi i just install kubuntu i want to install berly desktop
[08:49] <roller>                       HDA ATI SB at 0xd0400000 irq 19
[08:49] <dhakatel> or and xgl
[08:49] <roller> this is sound card
[08:49] <Jucato> !beryl | dhakatel
[08:49] <dhakatel> what can i do now
[08:49] <ubotu> dhakatel: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:49] <richard_> how do I install ati drivers ?
[08:49] <richard_> !ati
[08:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:50] <Ichilegend> wow, bots are cool
[08:51] <Ichilegend> dhakatel you have what you need or you need human help?
[08:51] <richard_> I cant install my ati drivers
[08:51] <richard_> the instructions are for ubuntu :(
[08:52] <Ichilegend> richard the Kubuntu installation would be the same for the most part
[08:52] <xlinux_> holy crap.. anyone know anything about Nvidia drivers? I just learned some stuff I didnt know
[08:52] <radioaktivstorm> hello, i have a question: why do some windows insist on becoming several hundred pixels too large? and is there a way to fix this?
[08:53] <Ichilegend> explain .... um ... all of you!
[08:53] <dromer> hi all, I seem to need to recompile mpd for AAC/M4A support,  can someone help me with this?
[08:53] <xlinux_> anyone even interested?
[08:53] <Ichilegend> what is the problem?
[08:54] <dhakatel> is there any pango enable firefox binary for kubuntu
[08:54] <dhakatel> ?
[08:55] <xlinux_> i dont really have a problem.. I just learned something that *may* have been my problem
[08:55] <Ichilegend> do share
[08:56] <xlinux_> I constantly checked on the Nvidia website for a driver higher than 9755, thinking that Nvidia would change the driver version every time they released an update
[08:56] <xlinux_> but they OONT
[08:56] <Ichilegend> dhakatel, i dunno, It was standard in Fedora, but i haven't been paying attention to the kubuntu releases
[08:56] <xlinux_> DONT*
[08:56] <xlinux_> They had the release date on the website listed as may 7 2007
[08:57] <xlinux_> BUT, the original driver I downloaded that was 9755, I downloaded in early march
[08:57] <xlinux_> I never realized they released drivers of the same version multiple times with multiple revisions
[08:58] <Ichilegend> xlinux are you getting your nvidia drivers from a repository through regular upgrades or comkpiling it yourself with each new kernel?
[08:59] <xlinux_> compiling it myself.. the repos never worked for me
[08:59] <xlinux_> As soon as I d/led the latest release of v. 9755 nvidia driver, my FPS went from 4900 to 5500!!!!
[09:00] <xlinux_> Hopefully, this also fixed my flashing freezing problem...
[09:00] <Ichilegend> interesting, I guess the linux source stays the same version.  Since they try to unify their drivers, perhaps the updates are mostly for Windows?
[09:00] <xlinux_> *hopefully*
[09:01] <xlinux_> im guessing..
[09:01] <Ichilegend> weird.  Nice to know though
[09:01] <xlinux_> whats weird is in there archives, they have a driver version 9762 that was released may 2nd, but the 9755 latest release is may 7th!!!
[09:02] <Ichilegend> Rollback i guess.  they must have f'd something upp
[09:02] <xlinux_> Haha, this whole time, I thought they simply hadnt released a new driver.. and they did, just under the same version with a different date
[09:03] <xlinux_> yeah, thats what I was thinking
[09:03] <xlinux_> they just used the 9755 and incorporated the features from the 9762
[09:04] <Ichilegend> Release, get feedback..react is the entire quick to market coding mantra these days.
[09:05] <xlinux_> If this actially fixes my flashing/freezing, which I really doubt it would be so easy, than I will be VERY happy with kubuntu. I was actually ready to try Sabayon because of this freezing crap
[09:05] <xlinux_> whats up with your Ati card?
[09:06] <Ichilegend> atually I had Kubuntu issues too, my ultimate answer was to install ubuntu then apt-get kubuntu-desktop when all was working.
[09:07] <roller> why i cant tallk with you but i cant go to web adress
[09:08] <roller> browser said Could not connect to host ya.ru.
[09:08] <xlinux_> the funny thing is, Kubuntu flashed and froze FAR LESS than Ubuntu
[09:10] <xlinux_> I find it odd my FPS drops 2k when I use Beryl, but maybe thats just what beryl uses to run?
[09:11] <Ichilegend> I like the Ubuntu stability, but I prefer KDE, the way to go for my mone is Ubuntu+kubuntu-desktop
[09:12] <Ichilegend> Plus beryl is cool for a month or so, but the only real feature i still use is the cube.  Big productivity enhancer
[09:18] <dromer> can someony help me recompile mpd for m4a support?
[09:23] <ardchoille> Ichilegend: I like ubuntu too, but my 11 kubuntu machines haven't had a single problem and all are stable :)
[09:33] <xlinux_> took a smoke break
[09:34] <xlinux_> yeah, I agree with you about beryl.. I only use the cube and the magic lamp minimize- this helps me sort out where im minimizing to
[09:34] <nordseebaer> hi
[09:34] <xlinux_> i multitask like a mother
[09:34] <xlinux_> nordseebaer- hey
[09:34] <nordseebaer> any german here who can help me?
[09:35] <xlinux_> i cant help you there...
[09:35] <_4strO> de | nordseebaer or try in english ;)
[09:35] <_4strO> !de | nordseebaer or try in english ;)
[09:35] <ubotu> nordseebaer or try in english ;): Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:35] <nordseebaer> ok ty :) if i dont find anyone i'll come back and try in english ;)
[09:35] <_4strO> ^^
[09:40] <_4strO> yop yop
[10:07] <jan__> Good morning. Can I ask for some help with K3b?
[10:07] <jan__> Is it possible to rip audio CD's to MP3 format?
[10:08] <Jucato> !cdrip | jan__
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdrip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <Jucato> er sorry
[10:08] <Jucato> !ripping | jan__
[10:08] <ubotu> jan__: To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh
[10:08] <Jucato> you don't even need to use k3b, but yes you can
[10:08] <Jucato> just install LAME
[10:09] <jan__> I know there are other tools. I am writing a book for newbies at the moment. I installed Lame and the libk3b2.mp3 dependencies
[10:09] <jan__> Yet, it only shows Ogg and WAV as options.
[10:10] <Jucato> libk3b2-mp3 is only used for burning MP3's to Audio CD's
[10:10] <jan__> So it doesn't support the other way around.
[10:11] <Jucato> hm. it should, if you have lame installed. or maybe liblame? not really sure. Haven't tried it myself
[10:13] <_4strO> Jucato: i do not agree with you, libk3b2-mp3 is even use to RIP CD's tu mp3
[10:13] <_4strO> to*
[10:13] <Jucato> !info libk3b2-mp3
[10:13] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 39 kB, installed size 104 kB
[10:14] <jan__> _4strO: that leaves the question: why doesn't the MP3 option show in K3b when I try to rip a cd?
[10:14] <ardchoille> !info lame
[10:14] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB