[10:04] <cwarner> IRCMark, apci and apm are power management modules.. for a laptop you'll most likely want to have one or the other turned on
[10:05] <jazon> cwarner, thanx......
[10:05] <cwarner> IRCMark, here is the specification http://www.acpi.info/
[10:05] <IRCMark> which one do I have to turn on?
[10:05] <cwarner> i'd recommend trying acpi by itself first
[10:05] <crimsun> Shavnir: afterward, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:05] <IRCMark> ok
[10:05] <Shavnir> oka
[10:06] <cwarner> see if that meets your needs there is an interface for linux you could probably read somewhere.. search google
[10:06] <crimsun> lsuactiafner: dpkg -i -R is a bad thing.
[10:06] <cwarner> apm in the main scheme of things is pretty much deprecated.. anyway
[10:06] <tex_> lycon - ok, made it this far: sudo: apt-key: command not found
[10:06] <Shavnir> crimsun : Its taking a while.  Is that normal?
[10:06] <cwarner> I just came here to find out where I can bitch about a minor issue? :) anyone?
[10:06] <pepsi> how do i get the debian menu back?
[10:06] <Hitchhiker90> hi
[10:07] <lsuactiafner> lol
[10:07] <crimsun> pepsi: are menu and menu-xdg installed?
[10:07] <lsuactiafner> rofl
[10:07] <Shavnir> ah, there it went
[10:07] <crimsun> cwarner: depends.
[10:07] <pepsi> crimsun, yes
[10:07] <Hitchhiker90> How can I see a list of applications/programs that I have installed using apt-get or apt-cache?
[10:07] <danwolf> crimsun: ok, I don't know what else I can say
[10:07] <Shavnir> crimsun : Finished.  Pinging google still gives me unknown host
[10:07] <lsuactiafner> i think resolving doesnt work
[10:07] <danwolf> crimsun: I put down all I knew
[10:07] <crimsun> Shavnir: ip a show eth0 |grep inet
[10:08] <lsuactiafner>  edit /etc/resolv.conf
[10:08] <slask3n> does anyone know what bonobo-activation-server under processes in system monitor is? and can i stop this without regretting anything?
[10:08] <djm62> Hitchhiker90: you really want to see them all?
[10:08] <Shavnir> crimsun : Nothin'
[10:08] <cwarner> well i'm sure this is a bug in another distro and it probably is a nitpick.. we had a user complain that an app wasn't working with ubuntu.. specifically gnomemeeting.. it turns out that the volume for his input (mic) in this case was completely turned off
[10:08] <crimsun> slask3n: it's necessary, don't mess with it.
[10:08] <danwolf> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9864
[10:08] <danwolf> crimsun: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9864
[10:09] <Hitchhiker90> djm62, no, I'm going to pipe the list into a | grep -i command, but just need the general command to list them all
[10:09] <crimsun> danwolf: yes, I see. Someone will respond.
[10:09] <djm62> Hitchhiker90: dpkg -l
[10:09] <crimsun> pepsi: how did it "disappear"?
[10:09] <danwolf> crimsun: thanks
[10:09] <pepsi> crimsun, im not sure
[10:09] <Hitchhiker90> djm62, that worked like a champ, thank you!
[10:09] <lsuactiafner> crimsun : you from south-africa?
[10:10] <crimsun> lsuactiafner: no, I'm from the USA.
  I think I'm goin back to win xp mce
[10:10] <cwarner> jazon, you should..
[10:10] <jnk> slask3n, "man bonobo-activation-server"
[10:10] <danwolf> jazon: fuckoff winxp
[10:10] <jazon> I have spent about 150 hours trying to make this box work, and i just don't think it's going to be worth it....
[10:10] <djm62> Hitchhiker90: you can also use dpkg to search through installed packages, btw
[10:10] <crimsun> danwolf: language.
[10:10] <Hitchhiker90> cool beans
[10:10] <danwolf> crimsun: oh sorry
[10:10] <cwarner> jazon, if it doesn't work.. go back to win xp..
[10:10] <djp> can anybody help me with an audacity question?
[10:10] <Garathor> Is there any way i can use ISO8859-1 in aterm?
[10:11] <cwarner> jazon, you have to use what works for you right??
[10:11] <jnk> Hitchhiker90, dpkg --get-selections  (dpkg -l truncates the names of the packages I think)
[10:11] <djm62> Hitchhiker90: I realise this is probably a once-or-twice task, but just in case you have to do it refularly
[10:11] <jazon> Its an HP m1080n Media Center - lots of cutting edge type of hardware....
[10:11] <tex_> Ok, if apt-key doesn't exist...   I REALLY like ubuntu
[10:11] <crimsun> tex_: that's why it doesn't.
[10:11] <jnk> Hitchhiker90, if you want the names only, you can do "dpkg --get-selections |  cut -f 1"
[10:11] <cwarner> jazon, ati video cards aren't cutting edge at least not in the context of linux
[10:11] <crimsun> tex_: it doesn't apply to you.
[10:11] <regeya> really, it's rude to go about saying "whelp, guess I'm going back to WinXP" as a means of getting help.
[10:11] <tex_> crimsun: thanks
[10:11] <GUISlave> jazon- why not dual boot?
[10:12] <regeya> trolling-as-attention-getter == rude
[10:12] <jazon> cwarner, the pci-e technology is new.
[10:12] <cwarner> jazon, not for linux
[10:12] <djm62> jazon: if the hardware won't work without serious love....it's only economic to stay on another platform
[10:12] <kev__> i've got some serious problems with my desktop's wireless card (dlink dwc-520 rev e) and using hostap with ubuntu 5.04. anyone familiar with it, building kernels, etc?
[10:12] <Hitchhiker90> alrighty
[10:12] <djp> i appear to only be able to record a vocal track with an audio track if i select stereo. in mono the audio sounds correct but the vocals sound slow and inaudiable
[10:12] <jazon> GUISlave, yeah, I've thought of that.... but... i was really hoping to get mythTV working.  We use the computer a LOT in that regards
[10:12] <crimsun> Shavnir: double-check the network cable
[10:13] <tex_> crimsun: - what about the part of the guide that tells me to comment out the lines for the marillat ftp?
[10:13] <cwarner> jazon, there is probably nothing in that machine linux can't currently handle.. not even your video card
[10:13] <Shavnir> crimsun : It hasn't been touched since this machine was working in Windows yesterday.
[10:13] <crimsun> tex_: I don't know anything about ubuntuguide, sorry.
[10:13] <tex_> I see
[10:13] <jazon> well...... what about usr 5420 USB wifi
[10:13] <jazon> or the tv card
[10:14] <jazon> or the philips ir remote control
[10:14] <kev__> anyone successful with getting kernel module hostap and hostap_pci to build?
[10:14] <jazon> or the i915P intel High Def audio
[10:14] <cwarner> jazon, nope nope and nope
[10:14] <crimsun> and nope.
[10:14] <crimsun> though if you're resourceful, the i915 does work.
[10:14] <jazon> yeah, i have that working.... ;) (mostly
[10:14] <tex_> crimsun: - still bombing with multiple errors on apt-get install mplayer-386
[10:15] <cwarner> i'm sure you could get the tv card and ir remote control working those don't sound special to me
[10:15] <crimsun> tex_: Warty?
[10:15] <jazon> that and i also have an HP jornada that i use a lot
[10:15] <cwarner> the usb wifi i'm not sure i haven't been really following usb kernel stuff
[10:15] <jazon> also a panasonic D-Snap SD video camera
[10:15] <tex_> crimsun: - afaik it's warty warthog. How can I verify this..?
[10:15] <crimsun> tex_: you need my repo. deb http://sh.nu/~crimsun/ ./
[10:15] <jazon> it uses proprietary s/w and codecs (i learn NOW)
[10:16] <Nermal> tex_: comment out unstable and testing ?
[10:16] <sjmorgan> can somebody please help me to get my usb keyboard working?
[10:16] <crimsun> tex_: what cpu?
[10:16] <kev__> anyone familiar with building kernels that can help me for a bit? i'm new to the devian world -- but have 5+ years experience with mdk.
[10:16] <jazon> can you serve a web page with windows like you can with linux?
[10:16] <sjmorgan> my ps2 one broke so i plugged this one in, reconfigured X but it still doesn't work at all
[10:16] <cwarner> jazon, well thats not good.. one could reverse engineer that stuff but its 2005.. why waste the time
[10:16] <Nermal> kev__: why do you need to ?
[10:16] <tex_> crimsun: - P4
[10:16] <jazon> thats really a nice feature
[10:16] <crimsun> kev__: you don't need kernel source, you need linux-headers-$(uname -r) and build-essential
[10:16] <djm62> jazon: yeah, you can run apache on windows, even (I think)

[10:16] <Shavnir> I'm gonna grab some lunch.
[10:17] <jazon> well, i hafta go do the dad thing.... thanks guys - ttyl
[10:17] <kev__> nerma / crimsun: i've got a (shitty) wireless nic (dlink dwc-520 rev e1) that only works using hostap. but ubunto 504 doesnt ship the hostap modules. so i've go the hostap source and am trying to build the module from it. however, it complains that it can't find the kernel's .config.
[10:18] <slappy16> rerun make config
[10:18] <frank__> What do you amd64 people use as a versatile media player?  VLC  is the best I found yet by far.
[10:18] <kev__> nerma / crimson: i'd rather not rebuild a kernel (unless i have to) as the one shipped works just great. so i need the corresponding .config that was used to build the shipped kernel. can you tell me where to get it?
[10:18] <tex_> and this line is disturbing me..  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-13ubuntu2 is to be installed
[10:19] <lsuactiafner> kev__, : one shipped is never as good as a custum hardware specific kernel
[10:19] <crimsun> kev__: you don't need kernel source. Read what I said above...
[10:19] <djp> any audacity users here?
[10:19] <cwarner> why would one need the source? you just need the headers to compile a module
[10:20] <kev__> crimsum: so remove the linux-source packages, then install linux-headers-... and build-essential?
[10:20] <darGor> anyone knows how to install the bar ( i saw it in too much screenshots on web) which shows me hd info, memory info, users connected etc... ???
[10:20] <eruin> darGor: that's probably gdesklets
[10:20] <crimsun> kev__: it's not necessary to remove linux-source-2.6.10, but you do need to install build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:20] <kev__> crimsum: great, thanks. i'll  try it right now...
[10:21] <fazer> crimsun: remarkably, i was able to get my sound working!
[10:21] <djm62> darGor: I suspect you want gkrellm
[10:21] <whendrik> Is it correct is recieve no updates for the last 4 days??
[10:21] <fazer> crimsun: and... i don't even know wtf I did!
[10:21] <djm62> whendrik: yes, hoary is frozen
[10:21] <lsuactiafner> >> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries.
[10:21] <whendrik> Where can i read more about that?
[10:22] <crimsun> tex_: apt-get install mplayer-586=1.0-pre6a-0.0
[10:22] <whendrik> just started to like it
[10:22] <darGor> djm62: mm the bar which shows me total info of computer, partitions ,etc etc
[10:22] <lsuactiafner> and apt-get install build-essential depends on the generic kernel which doesnt boot correctly.
[10:22] <crimsun> whendrik: Hoary receives no updates except for security.
[10:22] <lsuactiafner> crimsun, : mplayer pre7 is out
[10:22] <crimsun> lsuactiafner: um
[10:22] <darGor> eruin: gdesklets is only for desktopp themes, right ??
[10:22] <Zugot> how do you backup your home directory?
[10:22] <crimsun> lsuactiafner: 1) that's great, but I didn't backport pre7, I backported 6a.
[10:23] <crimsun> lsuactiafner: 2) build-essential has nothing to do with a kernel image
[10:23] <fazer> what's the difference between mplayer and vlc?
[10:23] <lsuactiafner> Zugot : tar -jcfv backup.tar.bz2 /home/user
[10:23] <Zugot> interesting
[10:23] <Zugot> i'm using rar
[10:23] <lsuactiafner> mplayer is the most popular player.. therefore the best.
[10:23] <crimsun> fazer: two different players
[10:23] <lsuactiafner> bz2 compression is beter
[10:23] <Zugot> my backup harddrive is formatted as fat so i can use it in windows
[10:24] <lsuactiafner> crimsun : it does..
[10:24] <crimsun> lsuactiafner: stop making ill-informed comments, please.
[10:24] <Zugot> compression is cool...  but fat has a 2GB file limit
[10:24] <Zugot> and i'm not running compression
[10:24] <Zugot> i think i'm going to rebuild my laptop and use lvm
[10:25] <fazer> crimsun: any difference performance-wise?
[10:25] <eruin> Zugot: use fat32
[10:25] <crimsun> fazer: no idea
[10:25] <SirFred> Hi.
[10:25] <Zugot> eruin: isn't fat32 still limited by 2GB files?
[10:25] <tex_> crimsum - ok, that was as close as I've gotten so far. Single error is: mplayer-586: Depends: libpostproc0 (>= 0.90rc4) but it is not going to be installed
[10:25] <fazer> crimsun: ah, btw, how do I take a screenshot in xfce? or do i launch the gnome screenshot taker?
[10:25] <resiak> scrot!
[10:25] <SirFred> I've seen that there were no updates to hoary in some days.
[10:25] <crimsun> SirFred: that's correct. There are no updates.
[10:26] <crimsun> SirFred: it's frozen, aka stable.
[10:26] <SirFred> Humm, stable.
[10:26] <Zugot>  /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type vfat
[10:26] <Zugot> SirFred: you can always move to breezy
[10:26] <SirFred> crimsun: I suppose there're bugs around .
[10:26] <crimsun> SirFred: there are always bugs.
[10:26] <Zugot> i wish ndiswrapper would stop crapping out
[10:26] <SirFred> crimsun: They' ll never go
[10:26] <SirFred> Oops
[10:26] <SirFred> crimsun: They'll never get fixed on hoary?
[10:26] <ailleantsian_> i wish ndiswrapper would at least work for me
[10:27] <spiderworm> SirFred:
[10:27] <crimsun> SirFred: only security and major fixes that don't kill other things.
[10:27] <john_u> exit
[10:27] <SirFred> OK.
[10:27] <spiderworm> SirFred: theyll be fixed in the other releases
[10:27] <thechitowncubs> how can i install kernel headers for hoary?
[10:27] <SirFred> Is there any roadmap or something similar to Breezy ?
[10:27] <crimsun> fazer: any number of ways. I prefer ,,import'' from imagemagick
[10:27] <SirFred> Is there any roadmap or something similar for Breezy ?
[10:28] <slask3n> how do i exit manpages in console?
[10:28] <crimsun> SirFred: not yet, UDU is coming up
[10:28] <beggar> "q"
[10:28] <fazer> crimsun: aah... does it save in a png or jpeg?
[10:28] <SirFred> crimsun: What UDU means?
[10:28] <slask3n> thanks :)
[10:28] <crimsun> fazer: whatever extension you specify
[10:28] <crimsun> SirFred: Ubuntu Down Under, aka the developers' conference.
[10:28] <pepsi> crimsun, running update-menus and relogging in fixed it
[10:28] <fazer> crimsun: oh thanks
[10:29] <crimsun> pepsi: ok.
[10:29] <kev__> given a file, how can i determine which deb it belongs to?
[10:29] <tex_> crimsun: - sorry to keep pestering you with this.. did you see my last line about the libpostproc0 error?
[10:29] <SirFred> crimsun: Thanks a lot.
[10:29] <jnk> kev__,  dpkg -S file
[10:29] <crimsun> kev__: dpkg -S somefile, or use packages.ubuntu.com
[10:29] <fazer> crimsun: I am guessing that imagemagik isn't installed?
[10:29] <thechitowncubs> what is the package for kernel headers?
[10:29] <cusco> I installed unrar from apt.. but I don't know how to use it... how do I extract a .rar file?
[10:29] <crimsun> thechitowncubs: linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:29] <ailleantsian_> is there anyway to forse ubuntu to see a device ?
[10:29] <tex_> cusco: - unrar x filename.rar
[10:29] <jnk> cusco, unrar or unrar-nonfree ?
[10:29] <cusco> jnk: unrar
[10:30] <jnk> ailleantsian, what do you mean
[10:30] <lsuactiafner> ok, ncurses-devel is needed to make menuconfig
[10:30] <ailleantsian_> well it wont detect my wlan card
[10:30] <crimsun> tex_: do you have debian-marillat enabled, too?
[10:30] <Anubis> so my ubuntu won't boot up all the way if it can't sync with the ubuntu ntp server?
[10:30] <tex_> crimsun: - pretty sure, I'll check..
[10:30] <Anubis> Seems odd no?
[10:30] <crimsun> Anubis: sure it will boot
[10:31] <tex_> crimsun: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat stable main
[10:31] <Anubis> crimsun, trust me, it reboto once it can't reach the server
[10:31] <tex_> as well as stable main and testing main
[10:31] <Anubis> thus no desktop
[10:31] <Anubis> until it can
[10:31] <jnk> cusco, then it's "unrar file" or "unrar -x file"
[10:31] <djm62> Anubis: it could take time...
[10:31] <Anubis> it REBOOTS my machine
[10:31] <Anubis> it takes no time
[10:31] <jnk> cusco, but you need unrar-nonfree to unrar recent rar files (I think)
[10:31] <djp> any audacity users here tonight?
[10:31] <Anubis> it just loops
[10:31] <Anubis> and loops
[10:31] <spiderworm> where can i download individual breezy packages?
[10:31] <Anubis> and loops
[10:31] <crimsun> djp: please ask in audacity's irc channel.
[10:32] <Anubis> until the network comes back
[10:32] <crimsun> spiderworm: archive.ubuntu.com. It's not recommended
[10:32] <djm62> Anubis: why do you think it's ntp?
[10:32] <spiderworm> crimsun: i just want an updated scorched3d binary :)\
[10:32] <Anubis> because at that point it reboots
[10:32] <Anubis> and once it can reach the server
[10:32] <crimsun> spiderworm: bad idea.
[10:32] <Dekkard> any beagle gurus?
[10:32] <Anubis> it ten goes on to start gdm and so on
[10:32] <spiderworm> crimsun: why's that?
[10:32] <Amaranth> Anubis: If it can't reach the ntp server it sits for 40 seconds waiting for a timeout then continues booting. If your machine is doing something else (without you touching anything) file a bug report.
[10:32] <djp> crimsun: sorry, didn't realise there was one! is it on freenode #audacity?
[10:32] <crimsun> spiderworm: it's built with a new toolchain.
[10:32] <spiderworm> oh
[10:33] <stuntgp2000> hello everyone
[10:33] <Anubis> Amaranth, yeah. mine is doing something else
[10:33] <crimsun> spiderworm: you may as well just dist-upgrade to Breezy.
[10:33] <Anubis> its not waiting and then continuing
[10:33] <spiderworm> weeeelll mebbe i'll just compile from source
[10:33] <Anubis> a bug report
[10:33] <Anubis> ugh I hate that answer
[10:34] <spiderworm> crimsun: dist-upgrade to breezy?  is that safe?
[10:34] <crimsun> spiderworm: sure
[10:34] <fazer> hmm
[10:34] <Anubis> hitting the ubuntu ntp server is really unnessacary no?
[10:34] <crimsun> spiderworm: safe? yes. recommended? not now.
[10:34] <fazer> whats better than gaim?
[10:34] <crimsun> tex_: what error?
[10:34] <sig> fazer: a glass of beer
[10:34] <fazer> sig: but...seriously...
[10:34] <spiderworm> crimsun: thanx for the advice, i'll compile it from source i suppose
[10:34] <sig> nothing IMO
[10:34] <djm62> fazer: gaim is pretty much the best
[10:34] <tex_> crimsun: mplayer-586: Depends: libpostproc0 (>= 0.90rc4) but it is not going to be installed
[10:34] <crimsun> Anubis: not unnecessary but good practise.
[10:34] <Zugot> what kernel is everyone running?
[10:35] <crimsun> 2.6.10-34
[10:35] <stuntgp2000> I am new to Ubuntu & Linux, I've just knew that Firefox 1.0.3 is out, I need to install it, please can anyone help me in doing that ?
[10:35] <fazer> djm62: damn, it sucks =( you can't set your avatars though =/
[10:35] <beggar> can i resize my / partition without losing data?
[10:35] <crimsun> stuntgp2000: you _need_ to install it or you _want_ to install it/
[10:35] <djm62> fazer: you can...
[10:35] <Zugot> beggar: most likely not
[10:35] <sig> beggar: yes
[10:35] <fazer> djm62: oh...how?!
[10:35] <djm62> fazer: if avatar is what I think it is
[10:35] <beggar> so....?
[10:35] <Anubis> where is the bug report tool?
[10:35] <Marble2> how come I keep getting this?
[10:35] <Marble2> greg@Greg:/files $ sudo chown greg:greg /files/torrents
[10:35] <Marble2> chown: changing ownership of `/files/torrents': Operation not permitted
[10:35] <Anubis> thought there was one in gnome?
[10:35] <sig> beggar: http://ubuntuguide.org/#gparted
[10:35] <beggar> yes..no?
[10:36] <beggar> tks sig
[10:36] <zerokarmaleft> Marble2, add -R
[10:36] <sig> beggar: yes
[10:36] <sig> read that link
[10:36] <ups> stuntgp2000: you don't really need it, some of the security fixes of .3 are already in the ubuntu firefox, and if there are some which aren't, they will be soon
[10:36] <fazer> djm62: yeah, that picture thingy beside the icon..
[10:36] <sig> install gparted and do it
[10:36] <Marble2> thanks
[10:36] <beggar> yes..i've gparted ...but... i have to unmount?...
[10:36] <isam> everytime I install a new kernel, grub looses my settings, and rebuild menu.lst .. is there a way to have certain entries persistent, and not have new kernel installation flush my settings and entries
[10:36] <Marble2> zerokarmaleft: tried that, didn't work
[10:36] <blueprism> anyone has any suggestion for a msn client these days
[10:36] <spiderworm> crimsun: crazy idea, you think i could download the debian binary from the scorched3d website and install it on ubuntu 5.04?  would that work?
[10:36] <stuntgp2000> thanks for the clarification
[10:36] <djm62> fazer: you want to change yours, or that of the people on your buddy list?
[10:37] <crimsun> spiderworm: possibly, but I don't know.
[10:37] <fazer> djm62: change mine
[10:37] <tex_> crimsun - did you see that error message?
[10:37] <crimsun> stuntgp2000: wait for a security update.
[10:37] <djm62> fazer: in your account information it's called "buddy icon" and you can load it from a file
[10:37] <crimsun> tex_: yes, I'm extremely busy. Please be patient.
[10:37] <tex_> I see that. Thank you...
[10:37] <fazer> djm62: ah, awesome
[10:37] <kev__> is there an yeasy way to add new mime types to gnome/evolution?
[10:37] <IRCMark> hi, I have a problem. When I try to shut down my laptop the words "Shutting Down LVM Volume Groups" appear on the screen and suddenly teh screen becomes black and nothing more happens. The only thing that I can do I to shut down my laptop form the power button. How can I solve this problem?
[10:37] <tex_> ubuntu has gained popularity quickly ;)
[10:38] <beggar> sig, how can i resize my root partition without unmounting?
[10:38] <zerokarmaleft> Marble2, sudo chown -R greg:greg /files/torrents?
[10:38] <zerokarmaleft> Marble2, is /files/torrents/ the full path?
[10:38] <djm62> fazer: now you see...gaim _is_ the best ;)
[10:38] <fazer> djm62: checking if it does it for the MSN ;)
[10:38] <slappy16> why lvm on a laptop?
[10:38] <djm62> it does (I use it)
[10:38] <fazer> djm62: AWESOME
[10:39] <Marble2> zerokarmaleft: ye
[10:39] <IRCMark> slappy16: I don't know why
[10:39] <Marble2> it's the full path
[10:39] <stuntgp2000> but can you tell how can it be installed, because I need to apply its method of installation on other apps
[10:39] <Marble2> and that was the command
[10:39] <martin> hello, my amaroK won't work with any of the soundsystems.. does everyone a solution?
[10:39] <djm62> martin: are you on KDE?
[10:39] <thechitowncubs> I was wondering how to get amarok to work with gnome also
[10:39] <pepsi> i installed the eagle package, pcb layout tool.. it installed without a problem, but when i try to run it, it says i need libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[10:40] <Zugot> beggar: i still don't believe you will be able to shrink your / even with gparted...
[10:40] <ups> stuntgp2000: what do u mean u want to apply its method on other apps?
[10:40] <crimsun> tex_: try changing the debian-marillat reference from stable to testing
[10:40] <pepsi> installing the libstdc++6 package didnt help
[10:40] <slappy16> if you dont need it, just remove it from whichever runlevel you boot into
[10:40] <fazer> dfdu
[10:41] <IRCMark> slappy16: so, what do I have to do?
[10:41] <crimsun> pepsi: that's because that's the wrong package.
[10:41] <IRCMark> slappy16: from which file?
[10:41] <crimsun> pepsi: you want libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[10:41] <beggar> Zugot, and with a external partition tool ?
[10:41] <danwolf> crimsun: hey, just figured out that when I get the error Failed to initialize hal when logging into gnome, if I killall dbus-daemon-1, I can at least get into gnome
[10:41] <slappy16> is there rcconf, or you can find out your runlevel with cat /etc/inittab
[10:41] <djm62> thechitowncubs: amarok-gstreamer might help you
[10:41] <zerokarmaleft> Marble2, not sure what could be causing the failure, that's a pretty simple operation
[10:42] <slappy16> id:3:initdefault:  look for a line like that, the number will be your runlevel
[10:42] <stuntgp2000> I mean if I know how to install firefox which i've downloaded from Mozilla site, I can do the same for Gaim
[10:42] <IRCMark> #ubuntu-it
[10:42] <slappy16> then go into /etc/rc#.d and rm S##lvm
[10:42] <IRCMark> ok
[10:42] <slappy16> thats the painful way
[10:42] <IRCMark> i'll try
[10:42] <spiderworm> question, if i already have a package installed via apt, is it safe to download the source code for the application and compile and install it to my system, or should i unistall the package via dpkg first?
[10:42] <slappy16> go rcconf
[10:42] <jnk> kev__, I think you can associate an application easily, but not edit existing mime types
[10:42] <djm62> martin: amarok-gstreamer allows amarok to play through gstreamer libs
[10:42] <zerokarmaleft> Marble2, hmm...try putting /files/torrents/ instead of /files/torrents
[10:42] <tex_> crimsun: - well, the testing ref. was in there, but I commented out the stable, unstable refs. Now it looks like it is going to go for it..
[10:42] <fazer> mhmm
[10:43] <tex_> crimsun: - fingers crossed
[10:43] <pepsi> crimsun, thanks... who can i tell about that package depending on libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2?
[10:43] <martin> yes, i've got gstreamer libs but it won't work
[10:43] <crimsun> pepsi: what package?
[10:43] <jnk> spiderworm, if possible you should use the source of the ubuntu package, not the upstream source. Then change what you want and make an ubuntu package from it
[10:43] <pepsi> eagle
[10:43] <ups> stuntgp2000: it might mess up the system if u try it, and especially since you're new to linux, i think you should try to use the official packages
[10:44] <IRCMark> but what's the use of lvm?
[10:44] <spiderworm> jnk: hmmm ok... where would i get the source of the ubuntu package i want?  it's prolly in breezy universe
[10:44] <pepsi> its just a matter of making the libstc-foobar a dependency, right?
[10:44] <ups> stuntgp2000: anyway, the installation for firefox & gaim differs i think
[10:44] <crimsun> pepsi: I'll fix it in a sec.
[10:44] <Unipa1> Hi, does somebody use the vnc or realvnc package from ubuntu?
[10:44] <jnk> spiderworm, just use "apt-get source package-name", it'll download and uncompress in current directory
[10:45] <jnk> you need a source line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:45] <danwolf> crimsun: that give you any ideas?
[10:45] <slappy16> LVM allows you to create disk volumes
[10:45] <crimsun> danwolf: not atm, no. Kinda busy.
[10:45] <ups> stuntgp2000: so you have to follow the individual software instructions, as given on their sites
[10:45] <stuntgp2000> it seems to me what I need is not how to install sth, but how does Linux work :)
[10:45] <slappy16> sorta like raid, but no redundancy
[10:45] <ups> stuntgp2000: but i would recommend against it
[10:45] <spiderworm> jnk: that worked, thanx, now what do i do with the package?
[10:46] <ups> stuntgp2000: ah alright
[10:46] <jnk> spiderworm, suppose you're in the source directory, and have installed fakeroot, I think you can compile by doint: "fakeroot debian/rules binary"
[10:46] <Unipa1> Hi, does somebody use the vnc or realvnc package from ubuntu?
[10:46] <slappy16> dunno. man vnc
[10:46] <slappy16> i should stfu
[10:46] <_-InMa-_> buenas noches, bona nit, good night
[10:46] <slappy16> but there is a link usually
[10:46] <ups> stuntgp2000: in general you can either install from pre-compiled packages, or build from source yourself
[10:47] <slappy16> in the man page
[10:47] <jnk> spiderworm, but you should install the build dependencies to be able to build
[10:47] <slappy16> is anyone else here scared about debian/ubuntu?
[10:47] <slappy16> because i lub debian...
[10:48] <slappy16> i'd hate to see a fork
[10:48] <Harpi> hi
[10:48] <jnk> spiderworm, for example the developements files for GTK, etc..  I think you can do "apt-get build-deb package-name" to get all necessary dependencies
[10:48] <slappy16> so many forks in the world
[10:48] <slappy16> ...
[10:48] <spiderworm> jnk: i can do that.  fakeroot debian/rules binary, that's it?
[10:48] <nickrud> slappy16, troll ?
[10:48] <djm62> slappy16: I don't think a fork would help anyone
[10:48] <Zugot> jnk... thats build-dep
[10:48] <slappy16> im not trolling
[10:48] <jnk> Zugot, oops yes :)
[10:48] <pepsi> crimsun, also, i had to chmod +x /usr/bin/eagle
[10:48] <slappy16> i just like to see peoples opinions
[10:48] <Unipa1> what is a fork?
[10:48] <stuntgp2000> in my case I've downloaded firefox-1.0.3.installer.tar.gz from mozilla site, what it is it, it a pre-compiled or a source ?
[10:48] <Harpi> can someone explain me why my laptop's ventikator is always high running on ubuntu
[10:49] <Harpi> ??
[10:49] <jnk> spiderworm, if it works it should create a .deb bin the parent directory
[10:49] <ompaul> Unipa1, context?
[10:49] <slappy16> a fork is when you split efforts in a package
[10:49] <Harpi> ventilator
[10:49] <Zugot> debian moves at a snail's space
[10:49] <ompaul> Unipa1, forked process - software package?
[10:49] <spiderworm> jnk: and i just install that with dpkg, right?
[10:49] <slappy16> ya, so they lag at release
[10:49] <Zugot> but ubuntu needs debian...
[10:49] <slappy16> theres always apt
[10:49] <Zugot> or do they?
[10:49] <ups> stuntgp2000: since it's an installer, it is pre-compiled
[10:49] <slappy16> yes, i understand that too
[10:49] <danwolf> gotta go to work
[10:49] <djm62> ubuntu could even speed up debian
[10:49] <nickrud> Zugot: yes, yes, yes, and again
[10:49] <Zugot> ubuntu has intertia and money on its side.
[10:49] <slappy16> but what makes it nice is that you maintain whatever package you claim
[10:49] <jnk> spiderworm, yes, but dpkg won't install necessary dependencies... maybe build-dep installed them though ?
[10:50] <djm62> as a "working unstable" distro
[10:50] <slappy16> that is true too..that guy is rich
[10:50] <Zugot> debian has stability and a plethora of arch's
[10:50] <Unipa1> slappy is saying that he hates forks. So what is a fork?
[10:50] <Zugot> i like ubuntu
[10:50] <crimsun> Zugot: ubuntu and debian are both necessary.
[10:50] <spiderworm> jnk: im hoping the deps will not need to be updated from what they are now
[10:50] <jnk> spiderworm, I mean, dpkg won't work if dependencies are not already installed
[10:50] <slappy16> its clean, i like the 5.04
[10:50] <Zugot> crimsun: in their own ways yes
[10:50] <Zugot> just like there is a place in the world for rhel
[10:50] <NotANick> slappy16: but debian and ubuntu are different OS's...its not really a fork
[10:50] <slappy16> so if i run sarge can i apt-get a package intended for ubuntu?
[10:50] <vessuvius81> Does anyone know a good calendar program for ubuntu?
[10:51] <Zugot> NotANick: not really true.   they aren't differences... you can't apt-get to ubuntu from sarge
[10:51] <stuntgp2000> Ok problem N1 solved now, how could i insatll a pre-compiled firefox ?
[10:51] <djm62> Unipa1: a fork is when somebody takes all the code, and starts developing their own version, which means people have to choose between them and it takes twice as mcuh work
[10:51] <slappy16> i still like cal
[10:51] <nickrud> slappy16: right now, maybe. Hopefully, etch, yes
[10:51] <\sh> vessuvius81: evolution (gnome) or kontact (kde)
[10:51] <NotANick> slappy16: they're bound to split paths even more in the future as ubuntu furthers in development
[10:51] <crimsun> pepsi: real name, please.
[10:51] <slappy16> i see, thanks for the input
[10:51] <Zugot> my damn home directory is 28GB
[10:51] <Zugot> thats crazy
[10:51] <fazer> How do I make sure my Ubuntu installation is secure?
[10:51] <jintxo> hi I'm looking for suggestions for a mailing-list software (mailman or majordomo orsomething of the sort) I would like it to take little effort as far as administration goes (instalation is no problem) any suggestions?
[10:51] <Resonant> stuntgp2000 its not recommended you DO install a pre-compiled firefox from the MZF.
[10:52] <djm62> the Xorg fork was a Good Thing
[10:52] <Zugot> i think i'll install amd64 linux
[10:52] <slappy16> heh
[10:52] <Unipa1> djm62: Thanks. Is this also the case with Kubuntu?
[10:52] <slappy16> deb installs Xfree
[10:52] <ompaul> Zugot, remove isos and oggs and what would you have left?
[10:52] <Zugot> let me go download ubuntu amd64
[10:52] <slappy16> fed went xorg
[10:52] <nickrud> djm62: why I'm here, really
[10:52] <djm62> nickrud: really? how so?
[10:52] <GUISlave> who created xorg?
[10:52] <slappy16> i do really like xorg
[10:52] <Harpi> i have a samll matter gnome i can't get on my desk after the loading step abox message tell me "can't initialize HAL" and then nothing else i have to reboot my computer...do u have any idea ??
[10:52] <nickrud> that, and waiting for beagle
[10:52] <Zugot> xorg is just a bridge
[10:53] <Zugot> wait till kdrive is released.   it should be way better than xorg
[10:53] <slappy16> hal needs 2.6, i think
[10:53] <slappy16> hal..thats funny
[10:53] <slappy16> sounds windowish
[10:53] <joshua__> if you do a chmod u+w, u is the user that owns the file right?
[10:53] <Harpi> i have gnome 2.8
[10:53] <djm62> Unipa1: I'm not sure what the precise relationship is with kubuntu...
[10:53] <Unipa1> Hello, I tried Kubuntu AMD64. It works as good as Ubuntu AMD64
[10:53] <Zugot> ompaul: i don't understand?   what are you asking?
[10:53] <Zugot> i have amd64 laptop
[10:53] <stuntgp2000> can know why ? Please be patiant with me. I've really found Ubuntu wonderful.
[10:53] <jnk> fazer, don't have open ports and keep up-to-date with security updates ?
[10:53] <ompaul> slappy16, you should watch the film 2001 and meet the first HAL who would not let dave to that :)
[10:54] <Harpi> no idea ??
[10:54] <ompaul> Zugot, in terms of what occupies the home directory
[10:54] <slappy16> seen it,the beginning is sooo slow
[10:54] <slappy16> dave.  dave?
[10:54] <Zugot> ompaul: isos for about 3 different distros... the kde source tree and other projects
[10:54] <jnk> joshua__, yes
[10:54] <joshua__> jnk:  Thanks.
[10:54] <nickrud> kjm62: bottom line? I can run sid, I want people to not run sid.
[10:54] <Zugot> ompaul: and porn
[10:54] <Harpi> any solution ?
[10:55] <ompaul> Zugot, so really that should be in /usr/local/porn /usr/local/isos :)
[10:55] <Pluk> :P
[10:55] <djm62> nickrud: so it is ubuntu as "sid for dummies" ;)
[10:55] <jnk> Harpi, maybe try and upgrade hal-related packages ?
[10:55] <Zugot> ompaul: most likely...
[10:55] <slappy16> so whats the prob harpi? you cant startx or it wont boot?
[10:55] <Harpi> i have already done so ...
[10:55] <nickrud> djm62: no, debian for today's users.
[10:55] <theine> Hi, is /dev/dvd created by udev?
[10:55] <kev__> are there known problems with the ubuntu 5.04 installer and existing software raid 1 partitions?
[10:55] <djm62> nickrud: yes...tongue was firmly in cheek
[10:55] <IIIEars> Hello!
[10:55] <ompaul> slappy16, the guy HAL does not want to turn off the power source
[10:56] <Harpi> the matter is that i don't anything on my desk
[10:56] <slappy16> so are you in a vterm now or are you in gnome now?
[10:56] <slappy16> ompaul: HAL was the computer, right?
[10:56] <jnk> theine, I think everyting you have in /dev is created by udev...
[10:56] <Harpi> the matter is that i don't have anything on my desk
[10:56] <nickrud> djm62: I'm actually pretty good at jokes, but I just failed helping someone. A little so serious a the moment :)
[10:56] <slappy16> ohhh...sorry, i wont know, then.  I dont know gnome
[10:56] <Harpi> under windows sorry ...
[10:56] <IIIEars> how do i install a tarball downloaded to the desktop?
[10:56] <slappy16> ohhh
[10:56] <ompaul> slappy16, yes now if you write down the letters of the english alphabet and look at IBM what is beside them?
[10:56] <slappy16> wait, in gdm?
[10:57] <jnk> Harpi, can you login as another user ?
[10:57] <Harpi> no
[10:57] <ompaul> slappy hi ab lm
[10:57] <tex_> crimsun: thanks a lot for the help...mplyer is working now although without any sound
[10:57] <jnk> IIIEars, what's the tarball if not indiscrete?
[10:57] <slappy16> hah..nice!
[10:57] <IIIEars> firestarter
[10:57] <Zugot> ompaul: write down the same english letters and look at WNT... what is next to that?
[10:57] <tex_> one problem at a time i suppose
[10:57] <pepsi> crimsun, my real name?
[10:57] <fazer> jnk: how do I know which ports are open?
[10:57] <joshua__> Is there any real advantage to upgrading to hoary now that it's out?
[10:57] <jnk> Harpi, same problem with all users ?
[10:58] <kev__> ie, during the 'partition disks' part of the install it detects 2 raid partitions and then creates 2 raid devices -- and there should only be one. then when i choose 'finish partitioning and write changes to disk' the screen just refreshes -- it doesn't move forward
[10:58] <Harpi> yes !!!!
[10:58] <theine> jnk, i'm asking because /dev/dvd does not exist on one of my hoary installs (which used to be a warty install) while it does exist on a fresh hoary install on the same machine...
[10:58] <Harpi> and i can't do anything
[10:58] <Harpi> only...reboot
[10:58] <slappy16> can you startx from a console?
[10:58] <Harpi> no
[10:58] <ompaul> Zugot, I must be asleep I forgot that one - Digital VMS :)
[10:59] <slappy16> what do you get?
[10:59] <IIIEars> firestarter-1.0.3.tar.gz
[10:59] <Harpi> but x work well
[10:59] <slappy16> can you ~/.xinitrc exec something else and startx?
[10:59] <Harpi> i have installed kde
[10:59] <slappy16> so exec kdm(?)
[10:59] <Harpi> and kde runs but not gnome
[10:59] <jnk> fazer, fazer  surely there is a command or a file for that in /proc or something, but I don't know it. You can install nmap and do "nmap localhost" :)
[10:59] <slappy16> i lub ice
[11:00] <fazer> jnk: oh, haha yeah, i remember that when watching matrix =/
[11:00] <djm62> fazer: you can also use netstat -l
[11:00] <jnk> fazer, lol
[11:00] <fazer> djm62: ah yeah, thank you.
[11:00] <martin> now it works. i've installed ALL packages with the word "gstreamer" in it :-)
[11:00] <jnk> djm62, ah thanks!
[11:00] <IIIEars> It isn't easy being a new linux user - grin
[11:00] <martin> does everyone know which OUTPUT PLUGIN is the best?
[11:01] <jnk> martin, not you it seems
[11:01] <jnk> (sorry)
[11:01] <IIIEars> how do i install a tarball downloaded to my desktop?
[11:01] <Harpi> well i m gone come back and boot with kde
[11:01] <beggar> there is any function in gimp to add tranparency to an image?
[11:01] <jnk> IIIEars, install firestarter through synaptic if the version suits you
[11:01] <djm62> IIIEars: open up a terminal...
[11:01] <Albacker> instal :S tarballs ?
[11:02] <djm62> beggar: transparency is "Alpha" in gimp terminology
[11:02] <jnk> beggar, you can add an alpha channel
[11:02] <jnk> martin, output for what ?
[11:02] <IIIEars> i can easily use alt+CTRL+F@ to login as root i just don't seem  to be allowed to cd to the usr desktop
[11:02] <martin> output plugin with gstreamer for amaroK
[11:02] <jnk> that's audio ?
[11:02] <beggar> yeah....tks djm62 / jnk
[11:02] <martin> there are so many.. are there big differences between them?
[11:03] <IIIEars> apt-get can't find firestarter
[11:03] <cusco> does anyone in here uses gmailfs?
[11:03] <cusco> cusco@cusco:~$ fusermount: old style mounting not supported
[11:03] <djm62> IIIEars: Mene: Applications->System Tools->Terminal
[11:03] <slappy16> apt-cache search <package>
[11:03] <jnk> martin, some examples?
[11:03] <djm62> IIIEars: then cd Desktop
[11:03] <martin> oss, alsa, esd,
[11:03] <djm62> IIIEars: oh!  remember it's all case-sensitive, "desktop" is not "Desktop"
[11:03] <martin> artes
[11:03] <IIIEars> adding the repository to synaptic doesn't seem to work for me either.
[11:03] <martin> arts
[11:03] <jnk> IIIEars, firestarter is in universe
[11:04] <jnk> enable this, then update and it must work
[11:04] <djm62> .me shuts up
[11:04] <stuntgp2000> thanks everyone, bye & see you soon
[11:04] <IIIEars> okay i'll give it another shot - Thank You :)
[11:04] <kij> xhat is the command to know fps ?
[11:04] <djm62> kij: you want glxgears
[11:05] <kij> yes thx
[11:05] <djm62> kij: although glxinfo will give you more detailed (and possibly more confusing) output
[11:05] <kij> thx
[11:06] <resiak> cusco: You're even in here...
[11:07] <jnk> martin, you're using kde ?
[11:07] <Zotnix> Hrm?
[11:07] <crimsun> tex_: pkill esd, or use mplayer -ao esd
[11:07] <Zotnix> Oh
[11:07] <Zotnix> There is a martin in here.
[11:07] <Zotnix> jnk: You scared me for a second :p
[11:08] <kij> moadib
[11:08] <cusco> resiak: yes, altho I got no answer
[11:08] <resiak> cusco: Nor did you get an answer on #debian :)
[11:08] <cusco> thank you
[11:09] <danwolf> hmm
[11:10] <martin> yes
[11:10] <martin> i'm using kde
[11:11] <martin> ZOTNIX, JNK: i'm using kde
[11:11] <jnk> martin, kde uses arts (or at least it did when I looked) so it must be the right choice...
[11:11] <slappy16> hah!
[11:11] <jnk> martin, you can use 'ps' to check whether arts (artsd ?) is running
[11:12] <femv> hi people... how can i make gnome to run an script before shutting down ????
[11:12] <martin> yes, it's artsd
[11:12] <jnk> so go with that
[11:12] <nickrud> femv: drop a script in /etc/init.d/, and man update-rc.d (credit crimsun)
[11:12] <martin> thx
[11:13] <fazer> Hmm, how would I make my Ubuntu use 16 bit color instead of 24 or whatever it is currently using?
[11:13] <Shavnir> Okay, my internet still isn't working
[11:13] <djm62> femv: before shutting down GNOME or before shutting down the computer?
[11:13] <martin> ps only prints THAT out:
[11:13] <martin>   PID TTY          TIME CMD
[11:13] <martin> 22192 pts/0    00:00:00 bash
[11:13] <martin> 22203 pts/0    00:00:00 ps
[11:13] <femv> djm62 before shutting down gnome
[11:13] <jnk> fazer, look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or XF86Config-4 for warty)
[11:14] <eruin> martin, try 'ps x | grep arts'
[11:14] <Zugot> femv: look in the gnome session manager
[11:14] <Shavnir> Any advice?
[11:14] <djm62> martin: ps aux will do the lot
[11:14] <fazer> jnk: ah, awesome. thanks.
[11:14] <martin> is that correct?
[11:14] <martin> 21487 ?        S      0:20 artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -r 48000 -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f
[11:14] <femv> zugot, in the session manager i can see a setup to run programs an startup.. but at shutdown?
[11:14] <martin> or does this mean arstd is running
[11:14] <jnk> Shavnir, what's the problem ?
[11:15] <Shavnir> jnk : Well, it dosen't work.  That seems to be the problem :p
[11:15] <Shavnir> jnk : There's a DHCP here on campus, but it isn't getting an IP from it
[11:15] <Zugot> femv: oh... i run kde, i really didn't know.   i figured that would be a good place to start
[11:15] <Shavnir> I put in a temporary ethernet card so I can eventually download the precompiled kernel interface so the nvidia drivers can install
[11:15] <fazer> jnk: wait, where do I set the bit?
[11:15] <Shavnir> But the other card, despite appaering and seeming to be configured right isn't working
[11:16] <fazer> jnk: oh wait, i think i found it
[11:16] <martin> is that correct JNK?
[11:16] <martin> 21487 ?        S      0:20 artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -r 48000 -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f
[11:16] <jnk> martin,  yes AFAIK
[11:16] <IIIEars> Back. - I want to install firestarter-1.0.3.tar.gz and have copied it to /tmp and created a directory in /tmp called firestarter is ./configure the next command?
[11:16] <nickrud> femv: just what is it this script does for you?
[11:16] <martin> thx
[11:16] <martin> what does AFAIK mean?
[11:16] <Dekkard> as far as i know
[11:17] <jnk> IIIEars, really you should use the ubuntu package if possible, is there a reason no to ?
[11:17] <djm62> femv: yes...this isn't something people need to do usually
[11:17] <IIIEars> i am in the new firestarte  directory
[11:17] <femv> nickrud, djm62 , ... i want to deactivate network interfaces before shutting down gnome...
[11:17] <slappy16> can you still not apt it?
[11:17] <djm62> IIIEars: in that directory, if you type ls, you will see files like INSTALL and README
[11:17] <IIIEars> i would prefer that - didn't know there was one - apt-get didn't find it and it wasn't listed in synaptic
[11:18] <jnk> IIIEars, enable universe
[11:18] <fazer> jnk: so, when I have done the necessary changes, do i reboot or just log out and log back in?
[11:18] <GhostFreeman> why is it every time I create a right click menu, GNOME shrinks a pixel on my monitor
[11:18] <eruin> IIIEars: you need the universe repository enabled
[11:18] <GhostFreeman> and when I click out, it goes back to its original shape
[11:18] <jnk> fazer, try logging out... or even go to a console and start a second X
[11:18] <fazer> jnk: i think I will log ut.  ttyl.
[11:18] <djm62> GhostFreeman: man, I don't think you're ghost-free anymore
[11:19] <GhostFreeman> ...
[11:19] <nickrud> femv what interfaces do you want to shut down?
[11:19] <jnk> lol
[11:19] <GhostFreeman> what's up with that, all
[11:19] <jnk> Shavnir, have you tried a static ip ?
[11:19] <SeamusLP> GhostFreeman:  Are you on drugs?
[11:19] <Shavnir> jnk : Well, given that I'm 100% positive the campus uses DHCP for assigning IP addressess, no
[11:20] <GhostFreeman> No
[11:20] <femv> nickrud, djm62 : my problem is that having network interfaces active makes my computer to splash an anoying error message at boot time. doing a ifdown eth0 and ifdown wlan0 makes the splash less anoying... i was thinking of writting an script to do this for me
[11:20] <djm62> GhostFreeman: are you sure it does that, rather than just appearing to do that?
[11:20] <jnk> Shavnir, this is usually not a problem, especially if you choose an ip outside the dhcp range
[11:20] <IIIEars> okay - i will enable "Universe" in synaptic - just curious now (probably not the last tarball i will use) i will use synaptic - just curious can you walk e through the steps to install from a tarball?
[11:20] <eruin> anyone know a way to make shortcuts (recursively) to all binaries named 'foo' in a directory ?
[11:20] <GhostFreeman> yeah, i'm pretty sure
[11:20] <GhostFreeman> would monitor make help?
[11:20] <Shavnir> jnk : But I won't be able to access the network unless I'm inside the DHCPs range right?
[11:21] <jnk> IIIEars, the right thing to do with a tarball is reading INSTALL and README :)  usually you have to run ./configure, make, sudo make install
[11:21] <djm62> GhostFreeman: not really, because that sounds completely wack
[11:21] <Shavnir> Plus I just don't get why it isn't working.
[11:21] <GhostFreeman> it pans out also, its like something going on in my monitor or something
[11:21] <Shavnir> I had a similar chipset of network card in my old PC a couple years back running debian and it picked right up on it :\
[11:21] <eruin> IIIEars: normally, the standard procedure would be to get the tarball in your home dir, then running 'tar zxvf tarball.tar.gz', cd 'tarball', './configure', 'make', 'make install'
[11:21] <GhostFreeman> Where would I file a bug report? X.org? GNOME? Ubuntu?
[11:21] <djm62> femv: when you say "splash"...what do you mean
[11:21] <jnk> Shavnir, now you should have access to the network if you use an ip that is part of the network, but you won't automatically get the dns server addresses
[11:21] <eruin> IIIEars: but as jnk says, alway read README and INSTALL files ;)
[11:22] <slappy16> amean
[11:22] <Shavnir> jnk : Well, to be honest I don't know the range of IPs that the DHCP uses.  And I don't know how to setup a static IP
[11:22] <slappy16> amen
[11:22] <jovian> I was wondering how I can COPY files from a local ntfs disk mounted on an ubuntu live cd to a full ubuntu install on a ext3 disk?
[11:22] <IIIEars> ah "sudo" make install - got it - Thanks again. :) Ubuntu is terriffic
[11:22] <jovian> is it possible
[11:22] <jnk> GhostFreeman, ubuntu
[11:22] <djm62> femv: edit /etc/network/interfaces so that your external interfaces don't come up "auto" (lo should be left as it is)
[11:22] <jnk> GhostFreeman, they will forward upstream if necessary
[11:22] <GhostFreeman> alright
[11:22] <femv> nickrud, djm62 : its just an error messages that shows up a lot of times ... "cs : pcmcia_socket0: unable to apply power" i have days asking everybody around and havent find a solution
[11:23] <NotANick> GhostFreeman: I think its time to lay off the Ketamine...Thats how I got my monitor to stop doing that
[11:23] <Shavnir> Also, anyone know if its possible to download the precompiled kernel interface on another computer and move it via CD to an ubuntu machine?
[11:23] <nickrud> femv, don't know pcmcia.
[11:23] <Shavnir> (re: nVidia drivers)
[11:23] <djm62> femv: oh....that's a weird one....that happens before init starts doesn't it?
[11:23] <tm17h> Hey all -- at some point in the last month or so, automounting of USB devices stopped happening automagically on my ubuntu box (perhaps when I moved to hoary(?)). Can any one give me some pointers as to where to start looking for the problem?
[11:23] <jnk> Shavnir, look at the ip from another computer on the network. Choose you ip with the same xxx.xxx.xxx  (change only the 3 last digits). Run for example: ifconfig eth0 up xxx.xxx.xxx.yyy
[11:24] <femv> djm62, the thing is that i want them to be enabled when i turn on my laptop.... i did erase the auto thing... but that is why i need the scripts
[11:24] <slappy16> tm17h: anything in dmesg? is automounter runing?
[11:24] <slappy16> you can still mount by hand?
[11:25] <tm17h> slappy16: Yes I can still mount by hand. Devices show up when I plug them in -- e.g. tail var/log/messages shows me if it's on sdb or sda or whatnot, I can then mount with sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/usb/
[11:25] <djm62> femv: it's not important that you _disable_ them....just as long as they aren't enabled when you boot up?
[11:25] <Shavnir> jnk : Okay, I did that.
[11:25] <GhostFreeman> that's odd, restarting GNOME fixes it
[11:25] <femv> djm62, that happens at boot time while configuring network interfaces, yes it is weird... and its more weird when you realize that it has to do with dhcp
[11:25] <GhostFreeman> anyways, filing bug report
[11:25] <slappy16> whats in /etc/auto.master?
[11:25] <jnk> Shavnir, now try pinging the other computer...
[11:26] <Shavnir> jnk : Destination host unreachable
[11:26] <tm17h> slappy16:  /etc/auto.master doesn't exist.
[11:26] <slappy16> does the new kernel from the install support autofs?
[11:26] <slappy16> ahh, if its the automounter im thinking of, it looks there..
[11:26] <jnk> Shavnir, do you have several network interfaces ?
[11:26] <femv> djm62, if i have them disabled at boot up.... or if i asign them an static ip... the error message appears just a couple of times... and becomes less anoying
[11:26] <danwolf> HAL SUCKS!!
[11:26] <Shavnir> jnk : Four currently.
[11:26] <slappy16> maybe someone here could correct me if im mistaken
[11:26] <danwolf> haha
[11:26] <Shavnir> jnk : Of which one was recognized by Ubuntu :\
[11:26] <slappy16> i havent autofs'd in ubuntu/deb
[11:26] <tm17h> slappy16: That would explain it then. Now the question is what package should be providing that file -- hmm... anyone remember the magic with dpkg -S that will tell me what package provides a file?
[11:27] <djm62> femv: in that case...you could add the appropriate ifconfig command to your gnome session so it happens when you log in
[11:27] <Shavnir> jnk : Two onboard gigabit ethernet that I can't get the nForce drivers to install for, a 802.11g card, and the 10/100 card I'm using so I can hopefully download the stuff to use the onboard two.
[11:27] <femv> djm62, i can activate them when my session starts... true... but they will still be activated at boot up ?
[11:27] <Reblended> giving live cd a boot on my sony vaio... I have  "boot: live pci=noacpi" and it is halting at the line: ACPI: Subsystem revision 20050211
[11:27] <danwolf> Shavnir: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9864
[11:27] <djm62> femv: not if you use ifconfig
[11:28] <Shufla> hello :)
[11:28] <jnk> Shavnir, eth0 is the 10/100 card ?
[11:28] <Shavnir> jnk : I think so?
[11:28] <jnk> Shavnir, we'll try in pv
[11:28] <femv> djm62, well that sounds like heaven to me.... tell me more about this ifconfig
[11:28] <djm62> femv: it will happen if you actually configure them in gnome...that (I think) changes the config file
[11:28] <Shufla> i'd like to say, that d-i with soft-raid + lvm runs fine :D but i've got badblocked disks :(
[11:28] <Shufla> btw. what is the best for soft-raid-1: two disk on same cable or two disks on diffrent cables?
[11:29] <edc> ifconfig eth0 up ip     where ip is the ip you want to assign it
[11:30] <edc> route add default gw ip eth0        where ip is the gateway's ip
[11:30] <jnk> tm17h, dpkgk -S filename  ? but if it's not here maybe the package is not installed
[11:30] <djm62> femv: dhclient eth0 will get an address from DHCP for you
[11:31] <edc> ok when i cd /usr/src/linux to compile a kernel i do make menuconfig and get the error:
[11:31] <tm17h> jnk: Right -- I thought there might be some magic to figure out *which* package isn't installed based on the filename I know ought to exist.
[11:31] <edc> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses
[11:31] <edc> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[11:31] <femv> so how should i write that out ....... the ifconfig thing
[11:31] <Shufla> jnk: there's apt-ftp package to search for files in not installed packages
[11:31] <jnk> tm17h, not with dpkg then. Some apt tool I don't know which
[11:31] <edc> i did do apt-get install build-essential already
[11:31] <djm62> femv: working it through ATM
[11:31] <jnk> Shufla, thanks :)
[11:31] <femv> djm62 atm ?
[11:31] <Shufla> n/p :D
[11:32] <djm62> femv: at the moment
[11:32] <djm62> anyone: does dhclient eth0 automatically bring the interface up?
[11:33] <jnk> djm62, no
[11:33] <tm17h> jnk: Perhaps apt-cache search or some such... I'll give it a go and see if I have any luck.
[11:33] <nickrud> tm17h: http/debian.org/distrib/packages, search contents in unstable.
[11:33] <jnk> djm62, well not sure anymore but it would be strange since dhclient doesn't need ifupdown
[11:33] <dazed> hallo all
[11:33] <jnk> djm62, well what do you mean by "interface up" ?
[11:34] <nickrud> right now, it's about 99.44% accurate :)
[11:34] <slappy16> ifconfig -a
[11:34] <dantheman> what bittorrent clients do you all use?
[11:34] <cusco> does anyone uses gmailfs?
[11:34] <slappy16> if its status is up or down
[11:34] <goldfish> azureus
[11:34] <cusco> cusco@cusco:~$ fusermount: old style mounting not supported
[11:34] <dantheman> i don't like the gnome-btdownloader
[11:34] <Shufla> btdownloadcurses :D
[11:34] <danwolf> gmailfs?
[11:34] <danwolf> cusco: whats that?
[11:34] <djm62> jnk: if typing "ifconfig" only shows lo, and you're plugged into a DHCP network, if you type "dhclient eth0" will ifconfig then show lo and eth0
[11:35] <cusco> danwolf: its to use gmail acount to store files
[11:35] <Reblended> I'm trying to boot the LIVE CD of Hoary... I have "boot: live pci=acpi"  and everything seems to load until the line ACPI: Subsystem revision 20050211 then it stops. Any ideas?
[11:35] <jnk> djm62, ah yes!
[11:35] <djm62> (I've only done this on wireless, which is slightly different)
[11:35] <tz273> Hi! Please help me! I would like to save my iptables config on a brand new ubundu, but i can't find /etc/init.d/iptables. I had it on my debian
[11:35] <jnk> djm62, but if eth0 is not  listed by ifconfig maybe you're missing a module
[11:35] <slappy16> tm17h: did you find what you were looking for?  what was that flag for dpkg you were looking for?
[11:36] <djm62> jnk: it's not me, it's femv, and I think that's the solution to his problem
[11:36] <jnk> djm62, (if dhclient succeeds then eth0 will definitely be listed by ifconfig)
[11:36] <slappy16> tz273: /etc/init.d/ is the script to start it...it does not hold iptable configs
[11:36] <djm62> femv: there....add "dhclient eth0" to your gnome session
[11:36] <tz273> slappy16: I want to save the config i just created.
[11:36] <slappy16> if you have a machine w/ a good config running now, just iptables-save/restore it
[11:37] <djm62> femv: and it shouldn't persist across a reboot, so it (hopefully) will do what you want
[11:37] <Reblended> if anyone has an idea about my problem, feel free to /msg me
[11:37] <femv> djm62, it would be system > preferences > sessions ... and then ?
[11:37] <tz273> slappy16: So, you say, if i asked iptables to restore a config, it remains active at the nex reboot?
[11:38] <slappy16> you need to save that output to a file.. i havent iptabled in quite some time
[11:38] <tm17h> slappy16: dpkg -S will search for a file, but of course the file I'm looking for isn't installed, so that didn't help me yet :) Looks like the file you're thinking of is provided by utils/autofs in debian unstable. Not sure if that's the normal "ubuntu" way to handle this or not. With warty, it all just worked(tm) after my base "click ok to everything" install.
[11:38] <djm62> femv: Default : Edit
[11:38] <Zugot> i finally got my setup working.... if i'm plugged into the network, my laptop will dhcp off the ethernet.   if there is no link, my laptop will try to find all the wifi networks it knows about, if that doesn't work, it dials up using my wireless verizon broadband card.   this kicks ass
[11:38] <Reblended> btw, this live cd I burnt worked fine on another computer, I'm just missing something on this other one
[11:38] <djm62> femv: d'oh, talking monkeys
[11:38] <IIIEars> Firestarter firewall is "Active" - that was almost too easy - grin
[11:38] <nickrud> Zugot: network nirvana, eh?
[11:39] <tz273> slappy16: OK, thank you! Just let me ask a last question: What sould i tell iptables, if i want it to forget all the filters i just added?
[11:39] <goldfish> IIIEars: heh
[11:39] <djm62> femv: "startup programs" tab, +Add
[11:39] <lsuactiafner> tz273, : as far as i know you need to put each iptable command in a file and run it @ bootup or whenever
[11:39] <lsuactiafner> tz iptables -F
[11:39] <femv> djm62, ok so that should activate my connecction right?
[11:39] <tz273> lsuactiafner: thx
[11:39] <Zugot> nickrud: yup..   i just want to be able to connect where ever i may happen to be at any point in time
[11:39] <slappy16>   --flush   -F [chain]           Delete all rules in  chain or all chains
[11:39] <nickrud> I need a laptop :)
[11:40] <djm62> femv: that should activate your connection when you log into gnome
[11:40] <lsuactiafner> iptables -F
[11:40] <tz273> Thank You!
[11:40] <lsuactiafner> iptables -t nat -F
[11:40] <lsuactiafner> iptables -t mangle -F
[11:40] <slappy16> ahh, thats right lsuactiafner
[11:40] <lsuactiafner> i got a nice script for you if you want
[11:40] <slappy16> nice
[11:40] <Zugot> i need a laptop with 1600x1200 resolution
[11:40] <femv> djm62, great im gonna try that out brb
[11:40] <slappy16> last time i iptabled, i just used shorewall
[11:40] <lsuactiafner> but you will need to patch your kernel to use it, but its dynamic and very very effective for home users
[11:40] <nickrud> Zugot: lottery money, huh?
[11:40] <Reblended> Zugot, My sis's is 1600x1050.. it's great
[11:40] <tz273> lsuactiafner: what kinf of script? I jut want to masquarade a subnet to a pppoe connection
[11:41] <lsuactiafner> yeh it should also do it, but i as i said you will need to patch your kenrel for it, can you do that?
[11:41] <Zugot> nickrud: nah... i'm always on my laptop.   it should have good resolution
[11:41] <ips> Hello, anyone knows how to have a different background for each desktop in gnome 2.10??
[11:41] <Zugot> i'm gonna get the thinkpad t42p
[11:41] <Zugot> i think it does 1600x1200
[11:41] <djm62> I'm still getting used to 1024x768
[11:41] <Reblended> Zugot, HP P4ht 2.3
[11:42] <nickrud> Zugot: right now for me that'd be lottery money :)
[11:42] <Reblended> and everything works!
[11:42] <Zugot> i have 1280x800 right now, and it feels like i'm missing something
[11:42] <Reblended> LOL
[11:42] <IIIEars> i would like to install clam anti virus. what packages do i need?
[11:42] <nickrud> Zugot, my are we particular.
[11:42] <Reblended> the full meal deal
[11:42] <tz273> so, thank you i leave for reboot.
[11:42] <Zugot> nickrud: do you code?
[11:43] <lsuactiafner> IIIEars, : goto freshmeat.net search for the name of the package you want, ie, clam and then check the dependancy list there
[11:43] <nickrud> Except for personal bash, not for a couple of decades.
[11:43] <njan> Zugot, 1680x1050 is all I ever dreamed for :)
[11:44] <CarlK> I am trying to hookup a HP deskjet 3320 - add new printer doesn't detect it - so I need to tell what port it is on - lsubs sees it at bus 1, device 2 -  what "usb printer #" is it?
[11:44] <lsuactiafner> 2 i think
[11:45] <CarlK> also, any idea if/how I can use a  Kodac EasyShare printer?
[11:45] <dragonman> hello everyone i need some help i'm installing gentoo and cant get past the "livecd" "root#" everytime i try a password get an error, any ideas
[11:46] <slappy16> hah..wrong group
[11:46] <Abood> djm62, hello again dude
[11:46] <slappy16> whoa.thats fast, too
[11:46] <djm62> Abood: what up?
[11:46] <slappy16> gentoo's got awesome docs, man
[11:46] <joshua__> dragonman:  I beleieve theres a #gentoo on this server.  They'd be able to help you
[11:46] <CarlK> dragonman - I have done it - Generally Too much trouble ;)
[11:46] <Marble2> Why am I getting this error when I run sudo chown -R greg:greg /files/torrents? chown: changing ownership of `/files/torrents': Operation not permitted
[11:46] <slappy16> ya, and read the docs!
[11:46] <whiteknight_> hey everyone
[11:46] <jnk> dracflamloc,  ask in #gentoo
[11:46] <djm62> gentoo?
[11:46] <\sh> hehe
[11:46] <\sh> #gentoo ;)
[11:46] <jnk> dragonman, that is
[11:46] <slappy16> emerge land
[11:47] <Abood> djm62 same proplem dude, but now i entered the desktop with the VGA depth 4 and resolution the lowest ?!?
[11:47] <dantheman> does anyone know why totem movie player would choke on an mpg?
[11:47] <slappy16> its nice that they have a portage
[11:47] <Reblended> is there another way to disable acpi in addition to using pci=noacpi?  ;)  Try out vlc or gxine
[11:47] <dantheman> alright
[11:47] <Zugot> Marble2: maybe /files/torrents is on a RO filesystem... what happens when you type "sudo touch /files/torrents/test"
[11:47] <Greek0> hi
[11:47] <slappy16> i cant believe they force me to use fedora at work...IT SUCKS
[11:47] <Reblended> on xp vlc has played files that win media player wouldn't touch
[11:48] <\sh> 1. livecd (standard) 2. stage1 tar.bz2 3. www.gentoo.org -> gentoo install handbook 4. working gentoo
[11:48] <Greek0> is there a way to get past versions of packages in ubuntu?
[11:48] <djm62> Abood: can you restate your problem for the benefit of the smart people here?
[11:48] <Marble2> Zugot: I mounted it as rw
[11:48] <Marble2> any other ideaS?
[11:48] <CarlK> Reblended - i don't think you need the pci= part
[11:48] <slappy16>  Reblended: i've had the same experince!
[11:48] <Rotund> slappy16: I have to use XP...  shut it
[11:48] <Zugot> does the touch command work?
[11:48] <joshua__> VLC is great.  I only use gxine for wmv files because of the w32codecs package
[11:48] <Reblended> slappy16, ooh!
[11:48] <slappy16> hah..
[11:48] <Reblended> CarlK, gonna go try that!
[11:48] <Marble2> Zugot: no output, but no erros
[11:48] <Marble2> maybe it's because /files is mounted to something else
[11:48] <Marble2> would that matter?
[11:48] <dantheman> can someone tell me what apckages i'll need for vlc, besides just the vlc package?
[11:48] <Zugot> what does the mount look like?
[11:48] <Marble2> if a subfolder is mounted somewhere else?
[11:48] <slappy16> you win rotund
[11:48] <Marble2> /dev/hdc1 on /files/torrents type vfat (rw)
[11:49] <joshua__> dantheman:  just apt-get install vlc
[11:49] <Zugot> oh... of course that won't work..
[11:49] <Zugot> duh
[11:49] <joshua__> dantheman:  It has support forst just about alla udio by default..just no wmv
[11:49] <Zugot> vfat doesn't hold uid/gid
[11:49] <dantheman> alright, thanks
[11:49] <Rotund> slappy16: Yeah, but I win because I'm writing tests for a program where the developers use Linux.
[11:49] <Abood> djm62, sure, another thing can u tell me how i can connect my ADSL eth1 to be connected with the net i need many stuff to start config
[11:49] <Marble2> Zugot: I was able to chown other vfat stuff?
[11:49] <slappy16> hahaha
[11:49] <Zugot> mount it using -o uid=<yer uid>, gid=<yer gid>
[11:49] <slappy16> how efficient
[11:49] <Zugot> Marble2: i don't think so..
[11:49] <slappy16> "heres cygwin"
[11:49] <Rotund> Anyone having issues w/ mono in backports?
[11:49] <lsuactiafner> ok am new to ubuntu/debian how do i apt-get a package that aint on the cd?
[11:50] <lsuactiafner> i need to install ncurses
[11:50] <joshua__> dantheman:  Np.    Download gxine.  Add the marillat repository, and install w32codecs.  it's a pain, but if you realy need wmv support, that's the way to go.
[11:50] <Abood> djm62, i checked this http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#rp-pppoe but its also me a internet connection !?
[11:50] <tz273> Hi! Could you help me? I have the problem, i just configured my eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, but it doesn't works. if I configure with ifconfig it works. If i just simply tell ifconfig eth0 up, it doesn't
[11:50] <djm62> Abood: you're best asking the room...I can only really help with stuff I have experience of
[11:50] <nickrud> Abood, does windows connect properly
[11:50] <dantheman> thanks!
[11:50] <slappy16> lsuactiafner: apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade apt-cache search ncurses
[11:51] <stopabuse> lol, you shoud've heard #gentoo guys harrasing ubuntu
[11:51] <djm62> tz273: what does the section in /e/n/interfaces look like?
[11:51] <Abood> nickrud, yes
[11:51] <IIIEars> OS, firewall, and anti virus installed without errors in a few minutes - VERY impressive. - Ubuntu developers have won another convert.
[11:51] <stopabuse> they told its nothing but debians and gentoos ripoff
[11:51] <Zugot> Marble2: i just solved your problem
[11:51] <Marble2> okay
[11:51] <Marble2> how
[11:51] <lsuactiafner> slappy16, : thanks for the basic info but it will help me (;
[11:51] <stopabuse> i tried to argue but they kept on abusing
[11:51] <slappy16> or run synaptic
[11:51] <Reblended> slappy16, ok.. youv'e had that same experience?
[11:51] <IIIEars> Thank You guys. :)
[11:51] <nickrud> abood, who's your provider (hope it's us)
[11:51] <Greek0> Is there any way to get older versions of packages in ubuntu? something like snapshot.debian.net?
[11:51] <djm62> stopabuse: no skin off any of our noses :)
[11:51] <stopabuse> can someone help me with my ubuntu? i installed it and theres this nigger and two ladies on wallpaper! i want nigger to go away!
[11:51] <slappy16> Reblended: just with vlc playing files that wm9||10 wont touch
[11:51] <Reblended> CarlK, got a little farther this time.. now it says: ACPI: Setting ELCR to 0200 (from 0e20)
[11:52] <Zugot> Marble2: you mounted it as root... and its vfat.  of course you can't change ownership of the files.   this is "user error".   mount it with your own uid, gid and your problems will go away
[11:52] <djm62> stopabuse: (a) language FFS
[11:52] <Reblended> slappy16, ahh, ya
[11:52] <tz273> djm62: iface eth0 inet static\naddress..., netmask..., network..., broadcast....
[11:52] <slappy16> stopabuse: whatta dork
[11:52] <Marble2> oh
[11:52] <Marble2> okay
[11:52] <Marble2> thanks
[11:52] <Abood> nickrud i dont understand what provider, ?? u mean the ISP's ?!
[11:52] <nickrud> abood yes
[11:52] <stopabuse> i'm not racist but i really dont like naked man on my wallpaper
[11:52] <joshua__> stopabuse:  Why not change the wallpaper? o.o
[11:52] <stopabuse> i'm not gay!
[11:52] <stopabuse> joshua__, how?
[11:52] <dantheman> how do i add a new repository?
[11:52] <slappy16> hah...
[11:52] <dockane> is there any known reason why ubuntu alwaya mutes audio capture device and moves mic record level to zero ?
[11:52] <djm62> stopabuse: (b) you can change the deskop wallpaper by right-clicking
[11:52] <stopabuse> i cant find where can i do it
[11:52] <slappy16> hahaha
[11:52] <joshua__> stopabuse:  Should've asked that in the first place. :)
[11:52] <Zugot> Marble2: /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,quiet,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[11:52] <slappy16> this is comedy
[11:52] <Abood> nickrud, its a company in my country ?!
[11:52] <djm62> I quite like the guy :-/
[11:53] <joshua__> Anyway, right click, change desktop background, stopabuse
[11:53] <slappy16> i...need..BEER!
[11:53] <joshua__> right click on the desktop that is
[11:53] <Abood> nickrud, man i need to know how can i get my ubuntu be connected with the net, iv got eth1 connected with the ADSL modem ?!
[11:53] <nickrud> abood, because I can help with certain types of connections, I'm hoping the compay will tell me what type you have :)
[11:53] <vordhosbn> is there a way i can change hotplug to mount my ipod to /media/ipod instead of /media/ipod_name ?
[11:53] <Rotund> GRRRRR.  I can't write a CD!
[11:53] <jnk> vordhosbn, you can add an udev rule
[11:53] <slappy16> vordhosbn: hotplug?
[11:54] <slappy16> oh
[11:54] <slappy16> hah
[11:54] <slappy16> nm
[11:54] <vordhosbn> well, i figured it was hotplug that was doing it
[11:54] <thechitowncubs> is there a list of windows apps alternatives
[11:54] <lsuactiafner> ok /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses
[11:54] <NotANick> vordhosbn: change your ipods name to ipod
[11:54] <lsuactiafner> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[11:54] <lsuactiafner> >> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries.
[11:54] <lsuactiafner> >>
[11:54] <lsuactiafner> >> You must install ncurses-devel in order
[11:54] <lsuactiafner> >> to use 'make menuconfig'
[11:54] <Abood> nickrud, Device Type : PPPoE, Server Type : PPP
[11:54] <Brazmetal> hey, why my resolv.conf file is reset each boot? I set the dns adresses, and when i reboot the system the internet isn't working cause the values I put in the file desappeared ?
[11:54] <Rotund> no chance of getting ProDVD installed?
[11:54] <Meastapheles> why would untaring the 2.6.12-rc2 kernel give "Cannot exec: No such file or dir" since I've copied and pasted the doownloaded file the name is correct, and I'm su
[11:54] <lsuactiafner> any ideas ppl? i need to make a new kernel
[11:54] <Marble2> that worked Zugot
[11:54] <Marble2> thanks
[11:54] <slappy16> lsuactiafner: did you rerun ld-config
[11:54] <thechitowncubs> what is the best Money managing app out there
[11:54] <slappy16> did you install ncurses-dev?
[11:54] <lsuactiafner> already did
[11:54] <slappy16> ldconfig?
[11:54] <nickrud> abood: ok ppoeconf has always worked for me for PPPoE
[11:55] <olive> Hello there, I just have a simple question for the Ubuntu Live CD : How can I (easily) access my hard drives ? I don't see any programs to mount partition...
[11:55] <lsuactiafner> E: Couldn't find package ncurses-dev
[11:55] <lsuactiafner> already did ldconfig
[11:55] <slappy16> libncurses5-dev
[11:55] <Rotund> thechitowncubs: The best is Quicken via Crossover Office.  GnuCash is second
[11:55] <Reblended> CarlK, funny they say in f7 boot modes to type pci=noacpi but I did what you said and it halts with another acpi line
[11:55] <slappy16> lettme do it, too
[11:55] <lsuactiafner> E: Couldn't find package libncurses5-dev
[11:55] <Abood> ok nickrud, do u know from where i can start to run my connection :) ?
[11:55] <femv> djm62, r u there
[11:55] <Marble2> how do i create a hotlink, so that say I do cp file /ft it actually copies it to /files/torrents ?
[11:56] <thechitowncubs> i installed gnucash but the fonts look really crappy
[11:56] <djm62> femv: I'm there...sounds ominous
[11:56] <nickrud> Abood, just run pppoeconf, enter the fields, and it will probably work.
[11:56] <femv> djm62, im running failsafe mode.....
[11:56] <nickrud> has for yeas.
[11:56] <djm62> femv: failsafe on gnome?
[11:56] <dantheman> can someone tell me how to add the marillat repository to sources.list?
[11:56] <nickrud> years.
[11:57] <joshua__> dantheman:  Hold on, lemme fetch a guide to it
[11:57] <Abood> nickrud, another thing man, im facing a proplem with the xserver-xorg, do uv got any experince with it ?!
[11:57] <nickrud> Some.
[11:57] <Seibol> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[11:57] <femv> djm62, yes , gnome wouldnt start up in normal mode with the dhclient thing...my opinion... permission are being dennied since im logging as root
[11:57] <jessica_> does anyone know what to do with i810 settings so that the display options work correctly?
[11:57] <Seibol> dantheman, there u go
[11:58] <Seibol> dantheman: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[11:58] <femv> djm62, i meant... since im not logging as root
[11:58] <nickrud> Abood: as long as it's generic, or voodoo3 :)
[11:58] <jnk> jessica_, what is it that doesn't work ?
[11:58] <Reblended> how do I disable acpi with LIVE cd, noacpi or pci=noacpi does not work on my sony vaio laptop
[11:58] <djm62> femv: damn....I think you're right
[11:58] <Abood> nickrud, its damn Intel builtin chipset
[11:58] <stopabuse> damn, where was i, oh, how do i change wallapper?
[11:58] <joshua__> dantheman: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
[11:58] <stopabuse> right click.. then?
[11:58] <jnk> Marble2, ln -s /files/torrents /ft
[11:58] <joshua__> dantheman:  Add that to the last name of sources.list
[11:59] <nickrud> Abood, it's a well known chipset. If it's generic, I can help, otherwise some else can
[11:59] <dantheman> it doesn't matter if i get gpg errors, right?
[11:59] <vordhosbn> what program or script handles mounting the ipod as "/media/IPOD NAME" ?
[11:59] <slappy16> lsuactiafner: did it work?
[11:59] <NotANick> stopabuse: Head down to Home Depot, ask the friendly guy behind the counter
[11:59] <femv> tried to do it from console, it wont do it without a sudo in fornt
[11:59] <joshua__> dantheman:  Run sudo apt-get update after you add it
[11:59] <jessica_> jnk: the screen resolution is 640 by 480 and won't go higher
[11:59] <Abood> nickrud, the proplem is that the xserver-zorg can accept the driver but it dosen't work
[11:59] <slappy16> i dont know if 5-dev was correct
[11:59] <dantheman> alright
[11:59] <jnk> vordhosbn, gnome-volume-manager through hal
[11:59] <NotANick> stopabuse: nah just kidding, there should be a change desktop of something button when you right click on the desktop
[11:59] <jnk> (I think)
[11:59] <Marble2> thansk jnk
[12:00] <stopabuse> NotANick, i cant find it :(
[12:00] <vordhosbn> alright, i'll look into it
[12:00] <stopabuse> oh wait
[12:00] <femv> djm62 i dont know why i think that gnome wont take a sudo there .... ?
[12:00] <stopabuse> properties


[00:15] <DonCullen> @MightyKing -- try https://store.kde.org/content/show.php/Bare+Naked?content=97930
[01:19] <DonCullen> @mparillo -- try https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=139415
[01:21] <DonCullen> Basically just activate the security chip in the bios
[01:22] <DonCullen> Heading to bed, gnite!
[01:24] <Fenster> hey fellas... more troubles
[01:24] <Fenster> this time with kmail
[01:24] <Fenster> akonadi personal infomration management service is not operational
[01:24] <Fenster> this is when I try to open kmail
[01:25] <Fenster> anyone know what could be causing this issue?
[01:39] <DarinMiller> Fenster:  Just saw this on the Neon forum regarding akonadi: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=309&t=136853&p=366353#p366353
[01:47] <Fenster> thanks DarinMiller I think I got thunderbird working
[01:47] <Fenster> I have been fighting this kubuntu install
[01:48] <DarinMiller> Fenster: what version of kubuntu?
[01:49] <Fenster> 16.10 I believe
[01:51] <DarinMiller> Fenster: Let me know if I can  help.
[01:53] <Fenster> thank you DarinMiller
[02:00] <Fenster> no screensaver yet?
[02:17] <DarinMiller> Fenster: pictures or slideshows  can be displayed on the lock screen, but "screen savers" have been displaced by screen blanking which actually saves the screen and electricity.  If I remember correctly, the developer intentionally ignored bringing screen savers to plasma 5.
[02:17] <Fenster> do you know where screen blanking is?
[02:18] <Fenster> ah I found it
[02:18] <Fenster> thanks
[02:18] <Fenster> maybe the teamviewer session is preventing it
[02:20] <DarinMiller> entirely possibe that teamviewer block it as appslicateions can disable the power save.
[05:03] <Bravis> so the sound is broken on version 16 Kbuntu for me. I have been beating this horse for the last 5 hours reading trying etc anyone have any working fixes? this is a MSI gt70 laptop.  After left-click, we can start typing a part of an application name, to find it and start it. But where does this application launcher seeks for the apps to start?
[15:23] <Zren> konrados, Like, where are the .desktop files?
[15:24] <Zren> ~/.local/share/applications and /usr/share/applications
[15:25] <Zren> Use the Right Click > "Edit Applications" for a GUI to edit them.
[15:26] <ronaldsmazitis> When using Position and zoom effect in kdenlive, where is zoom out function
[15:26] <ronaldsmazitis> older version of kdenlive was superior on using this effect, it was called pan and zoom and it worked
[15:26] <ronaldsmazitis> please fix this
[15:26] <ronaldsmazitis> KDENLIVE IS NOT USABLE NOW
[15:26] <ronaldsmazitis> using corners to zoom in, makes them dissapear after You drag them once
[15:26] <ronaldsmazitis> no zoom out for project monitor, makes it impossible to take it by corner again
[15:34] <IGotSun> How do I remove the timeout in the GRUB?
[15:39] <ronaldsmazitis> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=265&t=129434
[15:39] <ronaldsmazitis> why the feature has been removed
[15:48] <konrados> Zren - thanks. The .desktop files are... everywhere :) : /usr/share/locale, /usr/share/mimelnk/application/, /usr/share/plasma/, /usr/share/remoteview/, so... everything what's inside /usr/share is indexed by the application launcher? (as as reminder - I mean searching by entering app's name)
[15:52] <clivejo> ronaldsmazitis: you need to ask this question upstream with KDE
[16:01] <Zren> Not sure about everything in the share folders, but the "applications" folders are.
[16:09] <vsd> How do I remove the timeout in GRUB?
[16:10] <konrados> Thanks again, Zren - so one more question if I may - I want to create a command, like "google-chrome --disk-cache-size=1" and I want it to be findable via application launcher, and if possible I'd like to give it my own name, like "chrome no cache" - how do I do this?
[16:11] <Zren> konrados, edit applications > new item
[16:11] <konrados> Zren, sec...
[16:12] <konrados> vsd - what about https://askubuntu.com/questions/136070/is-it-possible-to-completely-disable-grub-timeout/136077 ? Just googled that :) I have no experience with this...
[16:21] <konrados> Zren - thank you! I'm only wondering where did it put it on my disk, there is no such animal in /usr/share anywhere... but that's not very important, thanks again!
[16:22] <Zren> That's because /usr/share is for "root" installed applications.
[16:23] <Zren> ~/local/share/applications is for user installed applications (and stuff you add with the menu editor)
[16:23] <Zren> ~/.local/ **
[16:36] <konrados> Zren - thank you very much again! Indeed there it is.
[17:00] <vsd> Sup guys, I am using normal Kubuntu 16.0.1 LTS and installed only VLC / Flash Player and use the normal sources (PPA) but plasma keeps crashing and restartting
[17:01] <clivejo> vsd what graphics driver are you using?
[17:01] <vsd> clivjeo: GTX 970 (Nvidia) but have not updated the drivers.
[17:02] <vsd> I guess it would cause more problem, the launcher (taskbar) keeps crashing but everything is still there after restart (still in GUI)
[17:04] <clivejo> usually plasma crashing has to do with graphics drivers
[17:04] <vsd> Just got it
[17:04] <vsd> Executable: plasmashell PID: 2062 Signal: Segmentation fault (11) Time: 2016-10-30 18:04:34
[17:04] <clivejo> have you any PPA's enabled?
[17:05] <vsd> clivejo: Nope, everything source
[17:05] <vsd> Should I update?
[17:05] <clivejo> are you able to get more info?
[17:05] <clivejo> a backtrace?
[17:06] <vsd> olivejo: What is a backtrace?
[17:06] <vsd> It happens usally randomly...just random
[17:07] <vsd> and now again :P
[17:08] <clivejo> how many screens have you?
[17:08] <vsd> The info: http://pastebin.com/DHxweZmQ
[17:08] <vsd> olivejo: Monitors, one only and Displayport
[17:08] <vsd> I only use 1 workstation but I am newbie
[17:11] <clivejo> are you fully updated?
[17:12] <vsd> olivlejo: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:12] <vsd> All done
[17:12] <vsd> and third crash now :)
[17:12] <vsd> and only VLC / Flash installed, nothing removed. I am just fixing GRUB (all working well)
[17:13] <vsd> and eveverything else is default
[17:13] <clivejo> #6  __memmove_avx_unaligned () at ../sysdeps/x86_64/multiarch/memcpy-avx-unaligned.S:245
[17:13] <clivejo> #7  0x00007f5396ccf4ad in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/swrast_dri.so
[17:13] <vsd> I do not understand that
[17:15] <clivejo> can you add backports?
[17:16] <vsd> olivejo?
[17:16] <clivejo> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[17:16] <vsd> What does it do?
[17:16] <clivejo> sudo apt update
[17:16] <clivejo> sudo apt full-upgrade -y
[17:17] <clivejo> it contains newer software version
[17:17] <vsd> Upgrading
[17:20] <vsd> Upgraded
[17:20] <clivejo> that didnt take long, are you on a fast connection?
[17:20] <vsd> 100/10
[17:20] <vsd> and already upgraded since before :)
[17:20] <clivejo> did you run all three of those commands?
[17:20] <vsd> yup
[17:21] <vsd> Fetched 124 MB in 1min 20s (1 541 kB/s)
[17:21] <vsd> But can I ask
[17:21] <clivejo> can you run kinfo center
[17:21] <vsd> PPA is third-party sources and not official Ubuntu
[17:21] <vsd> and Backports is a third-party REPO (PPA)?
[17:22] <clivejo> yes
[17:22] <clivejo> its an official Kubuntu repo
[17:22] <vsd> I am newbie so i did not want to install a PPA
[17:22] <vsd> and Info Center is done
[17:23] <clivejo> what are the frameworks, plasma and qt versions?
[17:24] <vsd> Plasma Version 5.6.5, and Framwork: 5.23.0 and QT
[17:24] <vsd> it crashed again
[17:24] <vsd> and the launcher has not started -_-
[17:24] <vsd> First time
[17:24] <vsd> sorry but fuck this...
[17:24] <clivejo> can you reboot please
[17:24] <vsd> I am getting mad at this shit system
[17:24] <vsd> Happend before and I got a black screen after login
[17:25] <vsd> and could not login
[17:25] <vsd> So i do not want to reboot -_-
[17:25] <vsd> How do I restart the KDE Plasma from console?
[17:26] <clivejo> you got a black screen after you logged in?
[17:26] <vsd> yup (this way yesterday)
[17:26] <clivejo> did you see  the login screen?
[17:26] <vsd> yup I have full encryption
[17:26] <vsd> after that I got black
[17:26] <vsd> I tried using ALT Arrow and logged in
[17:26] <vsd> Removed cache and KDE folder
[17:26] <vsd> and moved it
[17:26] <vsd> Did not work
[17:26] <vsd> So I reinstalled
[17:27] <vsd> Same shit happend like now (the taskbar died and did not relanunch)
[17:27] <clivejo> what version of Kubuntu was that?
[17:27] <vsd> Same
[17:27] <vsd> 16.0.1 LTS
[17:27] <vsd> Newest...
[17:27] <vsd> same setup
[17:27] <vsd> all fully updated and default
[17:27] <clivejo> where did you download it from?
[17:28] <clivejo> you mean 16.04.1?
[17:28] <vsd> olivejo: Dude
[17:28] <clivejo> Xenial
[17:28] <vsd> Yes oifficial site
[17:28] <vsd> Verifed the hash even
[17:28] <vsd> It is all default and from Xubuntu's website
[17:28] <vsd> LTS = Stable, bullshit I say
[17:29] <clivejo> Xubuntu?
[17:29] <clivejo> or kubuntu?
[17:29] <vsd> Kubuntu*
[17:29] <vsd> Sorry
[17:29] <vsd> I am angry atm, this is why I never fully had Linux before
[17:29] <vsd> Always problems and shit happning
[17:30] <clivejo> have you tried 16.10?
[17:30] <clivejo> It seems to be an issue with your graphics chip
[17:30] <vsd> No it was newly launched I would guess?
[17:31] <vsd> olivejo
[17:31] <vsd> How do I update normally from Kubuntu?
[17:31] <vsd> already did sudo apt-get update, upgrade
[17:31] <vsd> and dist-upgrade
[17:31] <clivejo> I have NVidia graphics and they dont make it easy to use in Linux
[17:32] <clivejo> I have to nomodeset my kernel and use the propriety drivers
[17:33] <vsd> Can you "how to" somehow to me?
[17:33] <vsd> link or write?
[17:36] <clivejo> vsd: can you open konsole and run "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices"
[17:37] <vsd> https://thepb.in/p/j2hlz8AgP9JtP
[17:38] <clivejo> ok so you can use the nvidia-361 nonfree driver
[17:38] <vsd> Olivejo
[17:39] <vsd> I am a newbie, how do I do that?
[17:39] <vsd> A newbie whom is going backto Winodws all due I hate it, almost going back
[17:39] <vsd> If it was not for the support the community has, I would be long gone
[17:39] <clivejo> sudo apt install nvidia-361
[17:40] <vsd> olivejo, do I need to do anything else after the installation is done except reboot?=
[17:40] <clivejo> dont reboot yet
[17:40] <vsd> nah updaing
[17:40] <clivejo> wait to that installs
[17:41] <clivejo> then "sudo nano /etc/default/grub"
[17:41] <clivejo> find the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="
[17:41] <clivejo> and change it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"
[17:42] <vsd> going there
[17:42] <clivejo> CTRL+ O = save file
[17:43] <clivejo> CTRL + X = exits the text editor
[17:43] <vsd> Saved and exited
[17:43] <vsd> Launched again
[17:43] <vsd> and it is there
[17:43] <vsd> So
[17:43] <vsd> I saved our conversation
[17:44] <vsd> I will reboot
[17:44] <clivejo> then "sudo update-grub"
[17:44] <vsd> If it work then I will enter
[17:44] <clivejo> wait!
[17:44] <vsd> ooohh fuck me
[17:44] <vsd> ok
[17:44] <clivejo> dont reboot yet
[17:44] <vsd> olivejo: I just fixed the update-grub
[17:44] <vsd> :P
[17:44] <clivejo> you need to run "sudo update-grub"
[17:44] <vsd> will update
[17:44] <vsd> Done
[17:44] <clivejo> to make your changes stick
[17:45] <clivejo> has it completed "sudo update-grub" ?
[17:45] <vsd> Yup
[17:45] <clivejo> ok reboot now
[17:45] <vsd> Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration
[17:45] <vsd> done
[17:45] <vsd> will do, if I come back in 1 min then it worked and I will thank you and praise your name
[17:45]  * clivejo fingers crossed
[17:46] <vsd> if not then I got a blackscreen and will probably take my life or go back to Windows and just ran VM
[17:46] <vsd> If the Linux penguin is nice to me, everything will be good
[17:46] <vsd> otherwise I will sell myself to MS
[17:46] <clivejo> try downloading Kubuntu 16.10
[17:47] <ronaldsmazitis> help me making kde bug important
[17:48] <ronaldsmazitis> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371871
[17:48] <clivejo> ahoneybun: ^^ have you seen this bug?
[17:50] <ahoneybun> zoom slider?
[17:51] <ahoneybun> I can't say that I have used that before
[17:54] <clivejo> looks like vsd run into problems :(
[17:56] <asd> suo dude olivejo
[17:56] <clivejo> hi asd
[17:56] <asd> Did not work, I am in recovery mode. I got a the encryption screen (enter password) then it was froozen
[17:56] <asd> After that I rebooted, black screen
[17:57] <asd> I tried recovery -> Booted and entered from the CLI password. Username (home profile) was froozen so I changed window CTRL ALT and F1 and entred and I BOOTED
[17:57] <asd> ....
[17:57] <asd> So I do not see the light with Linux
[17:57] <asd> Debian is to hard
[17:57] <asd> Ubuntu to ugly
[17:57] <asd> Kubuntu very good GUI but buggy since 4 year I first started testing it
[17:58] <asd> I am speechless
[17:59] <asd> but plus side the fonts after the update looks better
[17:59] <asd> :)
[17:59] <clivejo> are you in Kubuntu now?
[17:59] <asd> I tried recovery -> Booted and entered from the CLI password. Username (home profile) was froozen so I changed window CTRL ALT and F1 and entred and I BOOTED
[18:00] <asd> I think that explained it
[18:00] <asd> So yes, I am inside
[18:01] <clivejo> I dont understand how you are in plasma
[18:01] <clivejo> are you using sddm?
[18:01] <asd> recovery mode
[18:01] <asd> GRUB starts -> Advanced Options -> Linux Generic (Recovery mode)
[18:03] <clivejo> is plasma crashing?
[18:03] <asd> Now, no
[18:03] <asd> But
[18:03] <asd> As I explained
[18:04] <asd> I start the PC -> Grub's starts -> I choose Kubuntu -> I have fulldisk encyryption, it asks for password AND THE SCREEN FREEZES and keyboard
[18:04] <asd> same thing after reboot
[18:04] <asd> later on, I start PC -> GRUB's starts -> I choose advanced Options -> Recovery Mode
[18:04] <asd> You understand=
[18:05] <clivejo> yes, but are you seeing the login manager
[18:06] <asd> but it freezes
[18:06] <asd> so I cannot enter password or press enter
[18:07] <clivejo> but it displays?
[18:07] <clivejo> just you cant log in?
[18:07] <asd> Because it freezes
[18:07] <asd> Yes I cannot
[18:07] <asd> Because I cannot DO ANYTHING
[18:07] <asd> Not write nor do anything
[18:08] <asd> Might be because off nomodeset
[18:08] <clivejo> well you can remove that if you want
[18:09] <asd> No idea what it is
[18:09] <clivejo> but the system wont be able to use the Nvidia drivers
[18:09] <asd> Will try
[18:09] <asd> rebooting
[18:09] <asd> So what do I do?
[18:09] <clivejo> try it and see
[18:09] <clivejo> the newer plasma might have fixed the issue with plasmashell crashing
[18:13] <Sevish> I have had booting issues on kubuntu 16.04 recently, not sure if it's related to the issue that asd mentioned
[18:13] <Sevish> before the plasma login screen, I'll get a black screen with a single underscore in the top left corner
[18:13] <Sevish> the underscore doesn't blink, and my system hangs.
[18:13] <Sevish> usually on the 2nd reboot I get my kubuntu login screen to work
[18:14] <Sevish> today is the 3rd day of this
[18:14] <clivejo> Sevish: that sounds more like sddm issue
[18:14] <Sevish> oh yeah? I will try to look into that
[18:16] <clivejo> Sevish: journalctl -b | grep 'sddm'
[18:16] <clivejo> look back to a time when it showed a blank screen
[18:17] <vsd> Still same dude
[18:17] <clivejo> vsd any luck?
[18:18] <vsd> I launch GRUB -> Choose Ubuntu (normal) -> Login for password (encryption) shows up, but everything is froozen
[18:18] <vsd> Cannot type nor capslock / numlockk
[18:18] <vsd> Mouse starts up
[18:18] <vsd> and PC and screen is froozen and keyboard
[18:18] <vsd> I boot into recovery mode
[18:18] <vsd> Recovery mode works fine
[18:18] <vsd> and here I am
[18:19] <clivejo> vsd: its odd, Ive never seen anything like that before
[18:19] <clivejo> but I dont use full disk encryption
[18:19] <vsd> Neither me
[18:20] <vsd> Nobody else here that can help=
[18:20] <clivejo> you could try the main Ubuntu community
[18:20] <vsd> Already did
[18:20] <vsd> They say Kubuntu
[18:20] <clivejo> basically everything up to sddm (login screen) we share
[18:22] <clivejo> vsd: can you do journalctl -b | grep 'sddm'
[18:22] <clivejo> at a terminal
[18:22] <vsd> not found
[18:22] <clivejo> compare the time stamps with a time you couldnt logon with a time you could
[18:23] <clivejo> journalctl -b | grep 'sddm'
[18:24] <vsd> https://thepb.in/p/66hVRzZr8NPTW
[18:24] <vsd> Nothing I fouind intersing
[18:26] <clivejo> 19:16:29 PC sddm-greeter[1373]: QObject: Cannot create children for a parent that is in a different thread.
[18:26] <clivejo> 19:17 was that a time you couldnt log in
[18:28] <vsd> Recently
[18:28] <vsd> So I can think 19:16
[18:28] <clivejo> is there nothing prior to 19:16?
[18:30] <vsd> Olivejo
[18:30] <vsd> Honestly
[18:30] <vsd> Since 14:00
[18:30] <vsd> I been setuping up Linux
[18:30] <vsd> I have no clue
[18:30] <vsd> No angro to you, but I am starting to hate it
[19:29] <konrados> Hi again. On Windows, when the system is semi-responding, we can hit ctrl+alt+delete, how to achieve this on (K)Ubuntu?
[20:13] <VSSDD> One two diffrent dist's I have this problem. I have NVIDIA GTX 970 and after installing drivers my screen is frozen upon rebooting, when I need to enter my password it is all froozen
[21:10] <bravis> weee
[21:38] <Roey> hi
[21:38] <Roey> http://pastebin.com/2QAQRZQ3
[21:38] <Roey> what's with that error?
[21:38] <Roey> I tried apt-get dist-upgrade and got this error now.
[21:41] <vsssd> So I have two OS:s and using GRUB N encryption. I also have Nvidia but with PPA drivers I got black scree. Tried nomodeset and nvidia nomode 1, still black screens
[21:53] <penelopa> The Russian Federal Security Service continues to intercept and modify the traffic to Internet users in the network provider Rostelecom. Specifically, my traffic trying to block and make negative changes that lead to unstable operation of TCP. Today, spent 2 hours on the introduction of modifications to the TCP stack of the Linux operating system and tuning rules iptables. Now more or less it began to work. And that was a real horror, the compounds constan
[21:53] <penelopa> From specialist provider of Rostelecom succeeded only shamefaced recognition that it is not their fault. They did not say anything. Conclusions can be done only on the fact that it is the machinations of the Russian FSB.
[21:54] <penelopa> See all: http://pastebin.com/dQPH1bwY
[21:54] <penelopa> Determined traffic interception with rules described above to already open connections. Detect stealth scan packets Sonam RST flag, bags sborosa incorrect connection.
[21:54] <penelopa> Determined traffic interception with rules described above to already open connections. Detect stealth scan packets with a RST flag packets incorrectly reset the connection.
[21:54] <penelopa> Also detected by blocking banal answers to the already-open TCP connections.
[21:54] <penelopa> Russian Federal Security Service has learned to change the flags of TCP and ICMP packets field.
[21:54] <penelopa> It is necessary to talk to all the experts on information and network security. As well as leading developers and core network subsystem packet filtering on Linux and BSD systems.
[21:55] <penelopa> This should be aware of all !!!
[21:55] <penelopa> I apologize for the long monologue.
[21:59] <dax> penelopa: #kubuntu is for Kubuntu technical support. Please put ramblings like that on a blog or somewhere else that is not here.
[22:00] <dax> and no, "I have opinions on technology and use Kubuntu" does not make that Kubuntu technical support, before you say so
[22:05] <penelopa> dax: E. You will also want to be one of the partners describe the action? Well, please, only on behalf of all do not say!
[22:06] <dax> penelopa: Do not talk about random nonsense on here, thanks.
[22:07] <penelopa> dax: E. You acknowledge that do not know the intricacies of network protocols? Thank you for telling this to all!
[22:09] <dax> sigh, gotta love wide open WWW clients