[09:54] <puff> Belutz vi is one of the oldest editors, it's found on pretty much every unix installation by default, the binary is faiarly small, and ltos of people learned on it and got stuck on it.
[09:54] <ompaul> puff, most of what I do is 'good research' :)
[09:54] <Belutz> i see
[09:54] <puff> Belutz: It also is a very "modal" editor - you're either in editing mode or command mode.  Some people love this.    I thought it was part of pine.
[09:57] <nalioth> guess not
[09:57] <tristanmike> I'm having troubles updating Firefox today can anyone help me please?
[09:57] <Seveas> Absenth, pine isn't free either
[09:57] <Absenth> although I guess I never checked to see if pine was in ubuntu
[09:57] <JosephB> Belutz: yeah, nano is a pico clone, and it works just as well
[09:57] <axl> Anybody having problems with udev in breezy recently? (recently like in the latest hour, downloaded the latest fix for the problem yesterday)
[09:58] <deFrysk> tristanmike, from the ubuntu repositorie ?
[09:58] <Absenth> Seveas, what license do they use for pine?
[09:58] <tristanmike> deFrysk, yes, I suppose so, the update that came today
[09:58] <puff> ompaul: Doh!  It's Edit/Keyboard Shortcuts, right below Edit/Profile.
[09:58] <Seveas> stupid university license
[09:58] <wesley> how?
[09:58] <deFrysk> tristanmike, it works fine here
[09:58] <Belutz> my update for firefox 1.0.7 runs fine
[09:59] <tristanmike> It says: "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox"
[09:59] <deFrysk> tristanmike, whas the old one from backports ?
[09:59] <AndieB> Gotta go to bed!
[09:59] <Absenth> Seveas, so it's perfectly legal and free to install and use pine/pico after the fact, but without putting a bunch of notices in the ubuntu installer, they can't be included. is that what I'm getting for the U-Washington site?
[09:59] <Seveas> tristanmike, stop using crappy backports
[09:59] <AndieB> Cya!
[09:59] <tristanmike> :(
[09:59] <Seveas> remove the package 'firefox', kill all backports and install the ubdated mozilla-firefox
[09:59] <tristanmike> Seveas I just did what I was told to do on the Forums, nothing else
[09:59] <wesley> Os pacotes a seguir tm dependncias desencontradas:
[09:59] <wesley>   skype: Depende: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:<IP_ADDRESS>) mas 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 est para ser instalado
[09:59] <wesley> E: Pacotes quebrados
[10:00] <Seveas> updated even
[10:00] <Seveas> tristanmike, the forums are filled with idiots...
[10:00] <wesley> i have this message
[10:00] <tristanmike> Seveas, lol
[10:00] <Seveas> (ok, there are smart people to, but they're a minority)
[10:00] <bystander> tristanmike, youu just learnt something about the forums
[10:00] <ompaul> wesley, I asked you to paste into paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:00] <deFrysk> we need a #ubuntu-idiots
[10:00] <tristanmike> even the "gurus"?
[10:00] <Chousuke> oh gods.
[10:00] <Chousuke> Idiot concentrate.
[10:00] <wesley> ow.. sorry
[10:01] <deFrysk> tristanmike, someone calling himself a guru must be dillusional
[10:01] <Chousuke> wesley: English, please.
[10:01] <Absenth> deFrysk, if there was an Ubuntu_Idiots channel I'd have to be there.
[10:01] <Beryllium> if I do apt-get install cvs, will that hork synaptic-packagemanager or whatever it is?
[10:01] <ompaul> wesley, and that is not what I asked for
[10:01] <Seveas> deFrysk, so true...
[10:01] <Knelix> Hello guys.
[10:01] <spstarr_work> axl
[10:01] <ompaul> wesley, you do what your asked please or there is no point in me trying
[10:01] <Seveas> self-proclaimed gurus are usually the worst
[10:01] <tristanmike> deFrysk, they didn't call themselves, but the mods and admins I mean
[10:01] <Knelix> More questions for you...
[10:01] <spstarr_work> axl: what kernel / udev version i had this problem too
[10:01] <deFrysk> tristanmike, who appointed them ?
[10:01] <Seveas> tristanmike, the mods and admins are not the smartest per se
[10:01] <Seveas> just the most active
[10:01] <Seveas> like in here :)O
[10:02] <ompaul> Seveas, yeap I would agree with that I should be number one idiot :)
[10:02] <Chousuke> Hehe. :P
[10:02] <deFrysk> idiots tend to be very active :D
[10:02] <tristanmike> ok, so my system is flubbed now, so where do I go from here :P
[10:02] <axl> spstarr_work: prvmess me
[10:02] <Beryllium> tristanmike: Windows.
[10:02] <JosephB> Is there any harm in changing my system architecture to i586 for a AMD K6-2? Ubuntu installer defaulted to i486
[10:02] <Knelix> How do I enable the "universe" section of the repository?
[10:02] <tristanmike> BOOOOOOO!
[10:02] <deFrysk> Beryllium, lol
[10:02] <Beryllium> actually, i should have said OS X
[10:02] <Seveas> tristanmike, apt-show-versions | grep ubp | xargs aptitude remove
[10:02] <Absenth> Beryllium, I love it.
[10:02] <nalioth> !tell Knelix about sources
[10:02] <Seveas> disable backports
[10:02] <Seveas> reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[10:02] <Seveas> and ou're good to go
[10:02] <Absenth> Beryllium, although I think Lindows might be a better option :)
[10:02] <Chousuke> Aieh.
[10:03] <Absenth> Beryllium, then you can pay for "freeish" software.
[10:03] <Knelix> nalioth: Thanks. ;-)
[10:03] <test34> I just updated ubuntu (breezy) and it seems like it has a problem with the fonts.. now I xorg (gdm) wont open on boot.. anybody else got that problem or know how to fix it? if I try to uninstall the fonts to reinstall them, it want to uninstall pretty much everything because I guess everything depends on it
[10:03] <ompaul> wesley, now try >>sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt<<  IF that works great say so, if not PASTE in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:03] <Chousuke> BTW, I want to tell you something.
[10:03] <deFrysk> tristanmike, and warn everybody about idiots, their links and their repo's
[10:03] <tristanmike> Seveas, I get errors with that command
[10:03] <Chousuke> I went against my principles today and regged my nickname.
[10:03] <Chousuke> I hope you can appreciate it :(
[10:03] <wesley> OK
[10:03] <wesley> let mt try
[10:03] <Slarti-> just moved to ubuntu from mandrake and have to say that my mandrakeclub subscription is getting cancelled
[10:03] <Seveas> tristanmike, then you need to do it manually :)
[10:04] <stpere> Slarti-, welcome!
[10:04] <tristanmike> ahhh crap!
[10:04] <Slarti-> used mandrake since 7.1
[10:04] <JosephB> test34: i did 'sudo aptitude update' and 'sudo aptitude dist-upgrade' from the command line several days ago and it fixed that problem
[10:04] <jason_> !tell
[10:04] <test34> JosephB, thanks I will try that
[10:04] <tristanmike> ahh, this is crap, now firefox doesn't even start
[10:04] <luckyaba> how is it that i can run firefox as root but not as a user
[10:04] <deFrysk> Slarti-, time to meve to a better place then
[10:04] <deFrysk> move*
[10:04] <Slarti-> might even bump my slackbox over
[10:04] <Seveas> Slarti-, welcome to the ubuntu club :)
[10:05] <deFrysk> ubutnu-club is free btw :)
[10:05] <ompaul> Slarti-, three weeks of this and you will be hooked

[10:05] <elad`> I need to watch a tif file with more than one page. What program should I use?
[10:05] <Belutz> luckyaba: try to killall firefox-bin and re-run firefox
[10:05] <wesley> i cant accessthis addres.. but i receaved the same error msg
[10:05] <JosephB> test34: it will also help you to 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' right after you've done the dist-upgrade
[10:05] <puff> Okay, so I got that fixed, and I guess my next step is to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and a) uncomment the  universe lines and b) paste in the multiverse lines.
[10:05] <ompaul> wesley, message me
[10:05] <wesley> ok
[10:06] <Slarti-> apart from the quantum install procedure for my nvidia video card and chipset it's been plain sailing compared to the latest mandrake(driva) distros
[10:06] <luckyaba> Belutz: thanks that worked.. lol
[10:06] <borgista> Hell.  Does a breezy preview install usually freeze while installing ttf-bengali-fonts?
[10:07] <borgista> Last time it froze trying to install CUPS.
[10:07] <Seveas> no
[10:07] <Slarti-> mine bombed out at 55%
[10:08] <deFrysk> Belutz, all windows are closed here, not breezy
[10:08] <Slarti-> still booted
[10:08] <borgista> Mine has frozen @ 54%.
[10:08] <Slarti-> sorted out the missing packages afterwards
[10:08] <Belutz> :D
[10:08] <Absenth> Slarti-, the only REALLY noob friendly linux I've seen/tried is Linspire.  I'd feel good installing that for my grandma.  It's likely easier then OSx, although they charge for their Synaptic like service. :/
[10:08] <Slarti-> runs sweet now
[10:08] <puff> Hm, when I plug my usb drive in, it pops up in the GUI, but how do I see it at the shell level?
[10:08] <puff> Do I have to explicitly mount it somehwere?
[10:08] <borgista> I will just reboot that box then, and hope it boots.
[10:08] <Seveas> Absenth, linspire is a spawn of the devil himself...
[10:08] <Belutz> puff: ls /media
[10:09] <Absenth> Seveas, it is, but that doesn't make it any less EASY to use.
[10:09] <test34> Seveas, why is that? (I never tried linspire)
[10:09] <borgista> Do most folks have success with the Breezy-Preview CD-install?
[10:09] <Belutz> puff: there should be a new made directory for that usb drive
[10:09] <apokryphos> test34: default account is root account, many other things
[10:09] <GoRoDeK> ttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/mO5EDZ48.html anyone knows how to handle this kind of upgrade problem? x-common_1.06 -> x-common_1.08
[10:09] <Absenth> test34, if you ever get to see it installed it just FEELS dirty.
[10:09] <ompaul> test34, if he told you he'd have to kill you
[10:09] <Seveas> Absenth, it's also very easy to screw up
[10:09] <Slarti-> take all the worst bits of linux and mix it with the worst bits of windows and sprinkling of macos and you get linspire
[10:09] <test34> hehe, ok
[10:09] <Seveas> running everything as root...
[10:09] <puff> Belutz: Thanks.
[10:09] <Absenth> Seveas, much like windows :)
[10:10] <test34> just like windows
[10:10] <JosephB> ....sounds extremely nasty
[10:10] <Belutz> puff: :)
[10:10] <Seveas> Slarti-, *g* http://ubuntulinux.nl/quotes?maxid=4
[10:10] <test34> JosephB, no errors now, hopefully it works
[10:10] <ompaul> is it can we leave there, in front of the children
[10:10] <Slarti-> it's like windows without the software, or linux without the security
[10:10] <apokryphos> test34: Linspire was formerly Lindows
[10:10] <bystander> afaik Linspire also has no man pages ( at least it didn't a couple of years ago)
[10:10] <JosephB> test34: startx and let me know :)
[10:10] <ompaul> you can apt-get stuff for it but would you
[10:11] <ompaul> ohh dear that I know that
[10:11] <puff> I'm keeping a journal of all of this, by the way.  Hopefully I'll find time to write it up as a tutorial.
[10:11] <tristanmike> Seveas, now my firefox doesn't start at all
[10:11] <deFrysk> linspire has that pay-and click right ?
[10:11] <Absenth> Man pages?   If I try gdm, or startx I still get errors..
[10:12] <Seveas> tristanmike, your own fault
[10:12] <jason_> alright thanks i'll give those a try
[10:12] <Seveas> that's what you get for using backports
[10:12] <jason_> i think I just need to mess with the look of xhcat a bit
[10:12] <deFrysk> jason_, try gnome-xchat
[10:12] <tristanmike> Seveas, I don't know what I'm doing, I just did what I was told when I installed Ubuntu
[10:12] <Absenth> Sevas, are backports Backports >,=< linspire?
[10:12] <deFrysk> perhaps you like it better
[10:13] <tristanmike> Seveas, it's not my fault I have bad advice, please be nice....
[10:13] <borgista> The Breezy box booted, and I just am now running sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:13] <borgista> So far so good...
[10:13] <Absenth> jason_,  you Might be able to install mIRC through wine?  That might be fun.
[10:13] <deFrysk> tristanmike, we help you not to forget
[10:13] <tristanmike> I'm sorry
[10:13] <Slarti-> tristanmike : have you checked for broken packages?
[10:13] <jason_> lol I think I'll pass
[10:13] <wesley> ompaul, and then?/
[10:13] <wesley> :-(
[10:14] <Seveas> tristanmike, sorry, it's just that I have seen so much mess coming from the old backports that I hate them now
[10:14] <jason_> i just started using ubuntu and linux a couple of weeks ago
[10:14] <tristanmike> Seveas, I understand, but I'm sorry, the wiki is very confusing
[10:14] <kemik> Seveas:  backports is still messy..
[10:14] <jrattner1> mIRC blows
[10:14] <Belutz> mIRC = man, I'm Running Crazy
[10:14] <nalioth> tristanmike: psst, stay away from the ubuntuguide, too
[10:14] <Seveas> kemik, the official ones are better
[10:14] <JosephB> I'm still trying to find a really good keyring manager for gpg, Seahorse just isn't doing it for me.
[10:14] <Seveas> JosephB, gpa
[10:14] <borgista> I'm using ChatZilla.  I've got some wmv9 files I'm trying to view.
[10:17] <tristanmike> So can someone please help me fix and get me on the *right* direction please
[10:17] <borgista> I gave up on gentoo when it wouldn't detect my iPod Nano.
[10:17] <Slarti-> bipolar : use mplayer
[10:17] <borgista> It was "fun" for a while.
[10:17] <wesley> so, i can understand you..
[10:18] <test34> GDM: Xserver not found! /usr/X11R6/bin/X ..... on boot
[10:18] <puff> What subversion client do folks recommend?
[10:18] <wesley> the problmes is: i think that i dont have this lib in my repositorys..
[10:18] <Absenth> borgista, did gentoo feel much faster then ubuntu does?
[10:18] <deFrysk> tristanmike, Seveas told you what to do I believe ?
[10:18] <aladds> i disabled backports but it still wont install
[10:18] <nalioth> puff: i use console subversion
[10:18] <tristanmike> deFrysk, and I got an error with that command
[10:18] <bipolar> Slarti-, none of the mplayer packages will install. deps problems.
[10:18] <aladds> it complains because firefox and mozilla-firefox arr both installed
[10:18] <nalioth> aladds, you've adulterated your box with backports programs (this is the reason we dont recommend bp)
[10:18] <tristanmike> I'll paste error in flood
[10:19] <borgista> Absenth, it did when I was using Hoary before...I'm wondering if Breezy will be faster.
[10:19] <aladds> oh dear
[10:19] <carrett> hi guys. i'm having some trouble with firewire. i plug in the ipod, and nothing shows up in syslog or messages...ieee1394, ohci1394 and sbp2 are all loaded. i'm on breezy....any clues?
[10:19] <borgista> But w/Gentoo I used XFCE, mainly
[10:19] <aladds> now what do i do?
[10:19] <jason_> okay, I've got a question:  I installed mplayer along with the plugin for firefox yesterday.  The player itself will play everything I throw at it.  However the plugin won't play certain wmv files.  I suspect these are wmv9/10.... Is there a way to get these to work?
[10:19] <aladds> besides reinstall
[10:19] <Slarti-> bipolar, try building from source
[10:19] <deFrysk> tristanmike, howmany firefox packager are in your os now ? you can do a search with synaptic if you wish
[10:19] <puff> nalioth: command-line?
[10:19] <deFrysk> packages*
[10:19] <borgista> jason_ do you have the proper codecs?
[10:19] <bipolar> Slarti-, then I might as well build gstreamer-pitfdll
[10:19] <puff> Hm, odd... it looks like, this time around, ubuntu installed a lot more multimedia stuff by default.
[10:19] <Absenth> borgista, is it worth the difficulty in installation?
[10:19] <Belutz> aladds: remove firefox, and install mozilla-firefox
[10:19] <aladds> it wont do it
[10:20] <[klined] > hey
[10:20] <wesley> do you have any repository name when i can include in my apt?
[10:20] <aladds> it tries to install mozilla-firefox first
[10:20] <aladds> hence my catch22 problem
[10:20] <tristanmike> deFrysk, 5 packages installed
[10:20] <puff> nalioth: Which package do I use if I just want the client?
[10:20] <[klined] > how do I make the refresh rate in gnome lower to 70hz, it whistles at 75 and there is no obvious way to change it
[10:20] <deFrysk> all firefox tristanmike ?
[10:20] <borgista> Absenth, to me it was...because every other distro would drag on my 6yo box. But otherwise, not really. Unless you're a masochist.
[10:20] <Belutz> aladds: disable the backports repos
[10:20] <tristanmike> I posted my flood
[10:20] <aladds> i have
[10:20] <test34> somehow X got uninstalled
[10:20] <jason_> i have win32 and i've installed all of the ones listed on the unofficial guide.  The player plays the files if I download them.  But the plugin just buffers and hangs at 99%
[10:20] <nalioth> puff: just "sudo apt-get install svn"
[10:20] <Slarti-> [klined] , modify your xorg.conf refresh ranges
[10:20] <bystander> aladds, disable backports,then try running sudo apt-get -f install   without arguments
[10:20] <cyphase> aladds, uninstall all 4 firefox things, i.e. (mozilla-)firefox and (mozilla-)firefox-gnome-support
[10:21] <cyphase> then install mozilla-firefox(-gnome-support)
[10:21] <bipolar> ah ha! http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20050913.033319.cc1e37a3.en.html
[10:21] <aladds> it wont let me without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop
[10:21] <Slarti-> it's in /etc/X11/
[10:21] <cyphase> don't worry
[10:21] <cyphase> that's ok
[10:21] <deFrysk> tristanmike, apt-get remove --purge <packages> (close synaptic first)
[10:21] <ompaul> wesley, this is the line for the file /etc/apt/sources.list >>deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[10:21] <ompaul> <<
[10:21] <[klined] > Slarti: I understand that, specifically, what do I set it to to make the max refresh rate 70hz, it has vertical and horizontal refreshes, but not the standard way I'm used to seeing it
[10:21] <Belutz> aladds: that's ok
[10:21] <aladds> it is?
[10:21] <cyphase> lol
[10:21] <cyphase> yea
[10:21] <aladds> and yelp
[10:21] <tristanmike> deFrysk, 1 called "firefox" / "firefox-gnome-support" / "mozilla-firefox" / "mozilla-firefox-gome-support" / "mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb" and that's it
[10:21] <cyphase> yes
[10:21] <aladds> er, ok.....
[10:21] <Belutz> aladds: yup
[10:21] <bipolar> maybe gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse will be able to help me
[10:21] <cyphase> aladds, just reinstall them after
[10:21] <aladds> it doesnt sound good
[10:21] <aladds> oh
[10:21] <deFrysk> tristanmike, as I said earlyer
[10:22] <aladds> but will x11 work?
[10:22] <cyphase> yes
[10:22] <aladds> oh, ok
[10:22] <cyphase> nothing bad happens
[10:22] <tristanmike> de
[10:22] <cyphase> just uninstall them
[10:22] <[klined] > anybody know
[10:22] <test34> JosephB, X is working again, it was uninstalled for some unknown reasons
[10:22] <cyphase> then install mozila-firefox
[10:22] <aladds> ok
[10:22] <[klined] > what do I set my refresh rate too?
[10:22] <cyphase> mozilla-firefox *
[10:22] <[klined] > to get it to stay at 70hz
[10:22] <[klined] > no matter what
[10:22] <tristanmike> deFrysk, so replace <packages> with firefox?
[10:22] <Absenth> I think the BEST thing about linux in general is the ability to choose exactly what works best for you.
[10:22] <Slarti-> my horizSynch is 28-64
[10:22] <deFrysk> tristanmike, all firefox related packages
[10:22] <JosephB> test34: congrats dude
[10:22] <Slarti-> vert is 43-60
[10:22] <_DuDe_> back
[10:23] <ompaul> wesley, after that >>sudo apt-get update<< and then >>sudo apt-get install skype<<
[10:23] <Slarti-> using a tft which reminds me
[10:23] <Slarti-> must modify that
[10:23] <Absenth> ompaul, do I have to add any repos to APT to install skype?
[10:23] <[klined] > so set vert refresh max to 70?
[10:23] <[klined] > aye?
[10:23] <Belutz> Absenth: yes
[10:23] <carrett> hi guys. i'm having some trouble with firewire. i plug in the ipod, and nothing shows up in syslog or messages...ieee1394, ohci1394 and sbp2 are all loaded. i'm on breezy....any clues?
[10:24] <tristanmike> deFrysk, look, I'm an idiot, I'm sorry, I don't know how to do what you ask, I don't even know what your asking me, I'm sorry
[10:24] <Slarti-> go to your monitor's manufacturers website
[10:24] <Slarti-> grab the manual
[10:24] <_DuDe_> bob2, this happened last time I installed Ubuntu, and I came in here, and some dude helped me out, but I can't remember who he was, or what he had me do
[10:24] <[klined] > I know the right refresh rates!
[10:24] <_DuDe_> God damnit, again, I can't get anything to work that needs a password
[10:24] <bystander> !skype
[10:24] <ubotu> skype is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/, or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[10:24] <[klined] > but I want it lower than the best
[10:24] <_DuDe_> damn
[10:24] <Slarti-> it will have the recommended refresh rates in there
[10:24] <[klined] > Xorg trys to set it to the max it ican
[10:24] <[klined] > but it whistles!
[10:24] <_DuDe_> typed wrong thing
[10:24] <ompaul> Absenth, you can do and I suggest you do - and don't say that it a debian repo it is not it is a skype repo ... >> deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[10:24] <Belutz> Absenth: www.skype.com/products/skype/linux/repositories.html
[10:24] <[klined] > how do I set it lower!
[10:24] <[klined] > please!
[10:24] <_DuDe_> !help
[10:24] <Slarti-> what are they currently set to?
[10:24] <deFrysk> tristanmike, apt-get remove --purge <the packages you rapported to me earlyer>
[10:24] <Slarti-> throw me a bone
[10:25] <aladds> it's working, thanks guys
[10:25] <deFrysk> tristanmike, and use sudo
[10:25] <ompaul> Absenth, that comment was for others who jump in and call it a deb repo which it ain't :)
[10:25] <[klined] > 	HorizSync    30.0 - 96.0
[10:25] <[klined] > 	VertRefresh  50.0 - 160.0
[10:25] <test34> they dont update skype for linux or what ?
[10:25] <tristanmike> deFrysk, oh, so each name needs to be in there
[10:25] <deFrysk> tristanmike, yes
[10:25] <Slarti-> drop the horiz to 75
[10:25] <Slarti-> or 70
[10:25] <bystander> test34, they do
[10:25] <[klined] > what about vertical?
[10:25] <[klined] > leave that the same?
[10:25] <tristanmike> deFrysk, how bad is this gonna frig with my system?
[10:25] <Slarti-> may want to drop vert to 120
[10:25] <ompaul> !tell _DuDe_ about ask
[10:25] <[klined] > ok
[10:25] <Absenth> ompaul, Belutz danke.
[10:25] <[klined] > ok
[10:26] <wesley> i've done it and the same msg
[10:26] <Belutz> Absenth: :)
[10:26] <[klined] > thanks man
[10:26] <[klined] > hopefully nothing blows up =P
[10:26] <ompaul> Absenth, np
[10:26] <Slarti-> you can also drop the refresh via the screenresolution options
[10:26] <Slarti-> in the system prefs
[10:26] <jason_> !tell me about ask
[10:26] <deFrysk> tristanmike, when done you can install firefox back with synaptic including the extras you desire (but dont use the backports of ubuntuguide!!)
[10:26] <ompaul> puff, http://blogs.redhat.com/magazine/archives/000165.html this any help I have not looked at it in detail
[10:26] <Belutz> i just installed mono, i hope my sound still stereo
[10:26] <Slarti-> make a backup before changing anything
[10:27] <aladds> hmm, it did the packageness ok, but now firefox wont load
[10:27] <crtr> how to stop apache2?
[10:27] <Lars_G> Question, is the postgres account disabled as well in Ubuntu?
[10:27] <Slarti-> or comment out the offending lines and readd them
[10:27] <[klined] > doh!
[10:27] <Absenth> ompaul, Belutz, I get an error saying libqu3c102-mt must be >= 3:<IP_ADDRESS>  and the one I have is 3:3.3.3-yUbuntu3
[10:27] <Belutz> crtr: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[10:27] <[klined] > oh man!
[10:27] <Absenth> ompaul, Belutz, any suggestions?
[10:27] <Lars_G> Ah yes, yes it is.
[10:27] <[klined] > i am an idiot Slarti-!
[10:27] <Lars_G> thanks for answering me.
[10:27] <ompaul> Absenth, , now try >>sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt<<
[10:27] <Slarti-> hell if I can get the nvidia drivers
[10:27] <Lars_G> Seveas: Man you're fast
[10:27] <Belutz> Absenth: ompaul is more experienced in installing skype :)
[10:27] <[klined] > I was doing Display
[10:27] <[klined] > didn't even see that
[10:27] <deFrysk> tristanmike, and fingers crossed :)
[10:27] <Slarti-> and the nforce drivers working
[10:27] <wesley> ompaul, i have the same error than absnth
[10:28] <[klined] > sorry man
[10:28] <[klined] > lol
[10:28] <Slarti-> the refresh rates a doddle
[10:28] <ompaul> ahh
[10:28] <Slarti-> heh
[10:28] <Slarti-> don't quote me on that
[10:28] <Slarti-> ever
[10:29] <Absenth> ompaul, package libqt3-mt is not avalible, but is referred to by another package...  However the following packages replace it: libqt3c102-mt libqt3c102
[10:29] <ompaul> Absenth, feckers in skype upgraded and demand a new file we don't have
[10:29] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Is he alive? btw good day sir.
[10:29] <Seveas>  /kick Lars_G don't prod me
[10:29] <ompaul> Absenth, apt-cache search  libqt3-mt gave you that correct?
[10:29] <deFrysk> :)
[10:30] <Lars_G> Yup he's alive.
[10:30] <apokryphos> Lars_G: he is; and good-day :)
[10:30] <_DuDe_> Failed to run /usr/bin/gnome-app-install as user root:
[10:30] <_DuDe_>  Child terminated with 1 status
[10:30] <Absenth> ompaul, sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt
[10:30] <Absenth> ompaul, gave me that.
[10:30] <Chii_Chan> Quick q... in order to install a piece of hardware do I need to keep the sys and inf files somewhere? Or can I delete them when Im done?
[10:30] <_DuDe_> Please someone help me
[10:30] <apokryphos> Absenth: what's the problem?
[10:30] <Seveas> Absenth, apt-get install libqt3c102-mt
[10:30] <test34> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base
[10:30] <Seveas> Chii_Chan, sys and inf files are windows files
[10:30] <puterfixer> greetings and salutations :)
[10:30] <Seveas> this is a linux channel...
[10:31] <ompaul> Absenth, this is down to skype not building a real .deb in the first place
[10:31] <Lars_G> Chii_Chan: Sys and INF?? this is Linux.. not Windwos.
[10:31] <Chii_Chan> I know but ndiswrappers uses them to activate my wireless lan card
[10:31] <Seveas> ah - ndiswrapper
[10:31] <Absenth> Seveas, already at the newest version, skype however doesn't like my newest version aparently
[10:31] <Chii_Chan> ndiswrapper
[10:31] <Seveas> you can toss out the sys and inf file
[10:31] <tristanmike> deFrysk, ok, done
[10:31] <Chii_Chan> okey
[10:31] <apokryphos> Absenth: you on breezy or hoary?
[10:31] <xophEr> Seveas, do you know if/when 2.6.13 will be released for ubuntu? :)
[10:31] <Seveas> ndiswrapper copies them to its own folders
[10:31] <Lars_G> They are installed to a special dir Seveas?
[10:31] <Absenth> apokryphos, hoary
[10:31] <Chii_Chan> kk just making sure
[10:31] <Lars_G> xophEr: No need for a release, download the source and compile it yourself.
[10:31] <Seveas> xophEr, if: maybe not when: if ever, then in november for dapper
[10:32] <apokryphos> Absenth: and you get that above error after you've installed the respective qt package?
[10:32] <deFrysk> Absenth, skype has a static (qt included) version, try that
[10:32] <aladds> g2g
[10:32] <Lars_G> Seveas: You guys have decided the release names two releases in advance?
[10:32] <dalamar> is there a workaround for the newest upgrade killing X in breezy?
[10:32] <Seveas> Lars_G, no
[10:32] <GoRoDeK> test34: did you get the error while upgrading? i got the same and manually installed the .deb file with --force overwrite
[10:32] <lorenzod> Hi all.
[10:32] <Lars_G> Seveas: You are really something. But, what will happen when you run out of energy?
[10:32] <Absenth> deFrysk, I was thinking about trying the tarball install, but didn't want to risk breaking anything else in the process.
[10:32] <GoRoDeK> no problems so far...
[10:32] <xophEr> Lars_G, Ive done that, the only problem is that it cant mount my local filesystems at boot when I use it.. Dont know whats wrong
[10:32] <Seveas> the name for a release is announced ~7 months before release which is ~1 month before the release of another version
[10:32] <Lars_G> ok
[10:33] <deFrysk> Absenth, you can just unpack it in jour /home dir and run it...
[10:33] <Seveas> Lars_G, then others will hopefully take over :)
[10:33] <Absenth> deFrysk, perfect, THAT i can do :)
[10:33] <test34> GoRoDeK, yes, with synaptic
[10:33] <Chii_Chan> meh brb >.< have to run this as root
[10:33] <lorenzod> Is anybody using rhythmbox 0.9 and auto-rate?
[10:33] <test34> GoRoDeK, (breezy)
[10:33] <Lars_G> xophEr: That means you've not compiled the FS drivers Into the kernel AND you've failed to make an initrd image
[10:33] <deFrysk> Absenth, just read the howto on the downloadpage
[10:33] <ompaul> Absenth, na I will report the problem to skype - as I need it for some luser calls
[10:33] <dalamar> is there a workaround for the newest upgrade killing X in breezy?
[10:33] <Lars_G> xophEr: You need to either compile your FS handlers (and the IDE drivers) in statically on the kernel, or create an initrd image, and tell the bootloader to use it
[10:33] <Seveas> dalamar, yes, wait
[10:33] <_DuDe_>  Child terminated with 1 status
[10:34] <Seveas> and don't upgrade
[10:34] <Lars_G> Seveas: When will breezy lock?
[10:34] <_DuDe_> Hellp
[10:34] <Seveas> _DuDe_, launch it from the terminal, that error says absolutely nothing
[10:34] <dmb062082> sweet my discs are in the mail
[10:34] <lorenzod> I have a funny issue with rb 0.9 and auto-rate.
[10:34] <dmb062082> ubuntu is nice but my monitor blows. need to run the lowsest rez possible
[10:34] <GoRoDeK> test34, don't know how dirty it is. but i did it with console. apt-get update. apt-get upgrade... than the error occured ->
[10:34] <xophEr> Lars_G, Ill look into it, but I think I had it all right :)
[10:34] <test34> dalamar, I got my X back working, I had to reinstall X, apt-get instal xserver-xorg
[10:34] <xophEr> obviously I didnt
[10:34] <Seveas> Lars_G, it has gone through several phases of freezing already
[10:34] <lorenzod> It seems the rating decreases the more you play a song..
[10:34] <Lars_G> Seveas: And still upgrades break stuff? scary
[10:34] <dmb062082> is there a app that runs aol on linux? Its my only source for net untill I get cable back...
[10:34] <lorenzod> Hasn't done that before.
[10:34] <GoRoDeK> test34,  cd /var/cache/apt/archives/ and next do  dpkg -i --force overwrite x-common_1.08_all.deb
[10:35] <jason_> is it possible for mplayer plugin to play wmv9/10 in firefox
[10:35] <Seveas> Lars_G, all in the name of fixing things
[10:35] <_DuDe_> mike@zeroirc:~$ run /usr/bin/gnome-app-install
[10:35] <_DuDe_> bash: run: command not found
[10:35] <Lars_G> dmb062082: Gaim comes in ubuntu, kopete in kubuntu
[10:35] <apokryphos> dmb062082: AIM? Yes; gaim.
[10:35] <test34> GoRoDeK, ok thanks
[10:35] <Lars_G> dmb062082: Both handle AIM
[10:35] <Seveas> jason_, 9 yes 10 no
[10:35] <funkyHat> :/ how can i make gaim remember the size of it's windows?
[10:35] <dmb062082> not aim.. aol
[10:35] <Seveas> _DuDe_, sudo gnome-app-install
[10:35] <dmb062082> =)
[10:35] <jason_> ok thanks, that explains my problem
[10:35] <bystander> _DuDe_, just the command - no "run" :)
[10:35] <Lars_G> dmb062082: .... eh?
[10:35] <dmb062082> america online....
[10:35] <Lars_G> dmb062082: You mean AOL's web page? use any navigator.
[10:35] <dmb062082> for internet access
[10:35] <Lars_G> dmb062082: If you mean AOL's dial up, use ppp.
[10:36] <dmb062082> ppp?
[10:36] <Absenth> alright, I guess I'm out for school.
[10:36] <Lars_G> dmb062082: If you mean AOL's horrid propietary client, go to a corner and cry.
[10:36] <dmb062082> does that come pre packed with ubuntu?
[10:36] <Lars_G> :)
[10:36] <Lars_G> yes
[10:36] <Absenth> see everyone next time I have a few hours of "copius free time"
[10:36] <Absenth> lars_g, where in the world might you live?
[10:36] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Is there any gnome ppp configurator dmb062082 could use in ubuntu?
[10:36] <dmb062082> lars can I pm you?
[10:36] <Lars_G> Absenth: Why in the world would you care?
[10:36] <JosephB> where exists this 'copius free time' you speak of?
[10:36] <Absenth> Lars_G, my name IRL is "lars"  not something I come across very often here in Indianapolis.
[10:37] <ompaul> Absenth, can I message you?
[10:37] <JosephB> certainly not in my world ;)
[10:37] <Absenth> ompaul, sure.
[10:37] <Lars_G> dmb062082: I'd preffer you not to, I am comming and going so I have not much time to dedicate, sorry :(
[10:37] <apokryphos> Lars_G: don't know about gnome, sorry 8)
[10:37] <test34> GoRoDeK, that worked, thanks again
[10:37] <Lars_G> Absenth: Mine is Lars too, I am in south america (Venezuela), here it's weirder than in USA
[10:37] <Seveas> apokryphos, is one from the dark side...
[10:37] <Lars_G> Seveas: I am from the dark side too, I love KDE
[10:37] <pierre> ur
[10:37] <dmb062082> i could give a rats ass about AOL, I just need net access at my house and have many free AOL accounts for now
[10:37] <tristanmike> deFrysk, ??
[10:38] <dmb062082> kde is the best thanks
[10:38] <GoRoDeK> test34, no problem :)!
[10:38] <Chii_Chan> >.<  I am sure this is the account with root access but when I tried to install the drivers to ndiswrapper, it says this "Unable to create directory /etc/ndiswrapper/oem6. Make sure you are running as root
[10:38] <Chii_Chan> "
[10:38] <Lars_G> Seveas: Anyhow, since you're a Gnome child, does ubuntu comes with any preinstalled gnome based ppp configurator dmb062082 can use?
[10:38] <Absenth> Lars_G, I can imagine that would be a bit out of place there.  In 29 years I've only meet two Lars' face to face.
[10:38] <Chii_Chan> How do I make sure that I have the account which is logged in as root?
[10:38] <Seveas> Chii_Chan, use sudo...
[10:38] <Lars_G> Chii_Chan: You need to "sudo" it,
[10:38] <dmb062082> Lars, or one I can download for now...
[10:38] <Seveas> Lars_G, thank god the ppp era is far behind me
[10:38] <test34> GoRoDeK, I guess I can delete everything in this directory right ?
[10:38] <Lars_G> Chii_Chan: Just doing with the principal account is not enough.
[10:38] <tristanmike> I'll be right back!!!
[10:38] <Chii_Chan> sudo?
[10:38] <Seveas> read: i have no clue about that :)
[10:38] <puff> ompaul: Thanks, speaking of keyboards, this laptop has bluetooth, I need to find a good portable bluetooth keyboard.
[10:38] <cyphase> For everyone who was having problems with the Firefox upgrade, I've posted a small guide to fixing it on my blog: http://cyphase.homelinux.com/blog/
[10:38] <Lars_G> Seveas: Thanks.
[10:39] <jason_> i have mplayer installed, do you recommend installing xine as well?
[10:39] <moparfan90> does anyone know a good free game for ubuntu linux?
[10:39] <Lars_G> dmb062082: How can you donwload if you can't connect?
[10:39] <Seveas> moparfan90, kobodl :)
[10:39] <Lars_G> dmb062082: Or you can connect?
[10:39] <dmb062082> i am on a different pc
[10:39] <Lars_G> moparfan90: What genre?
[10:39] <dmb062082> ill burn and install there
[10:39] <GnuKemist> moparfan90, have you heard of enemy territory:
[10:39] <Chii_Chan> So how do I use sudo?
[10:39] <Chii_Chan> or is that the main account?
[10:39] <moparfan90> any im like fps and mmprg
[10:39] <dmb062082> how is http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/base/ppp
[10:39] <ZeroA4> Chii_Chan, "sudo" means superuser do. "sudo" will prompt for "Password:". Please specify user password http://ubuntuguide.org/
[10:40] <Seveas> !tell Chii_Chan about sudo
[10:40] <Chii_Chan> kk
[10:40] <Beryllium> man ... configuring Ubuntu to get the gcc and cc compilers in place from Synaptic is ... well, I wish there was a little "Development" checkbox that installed all the required packages, that's all :)
[10:40] <puff> Hm, I guess I should upgrade firefox.
[10:40] <moparfan90> GnuKemist, yes i tried it that game is old
[10:40] <Lars_G> Chii_Chan: Basically: "sudo command" and it'll ask your password... that is YOUR password
[10:40] <GnuKemist> moparfan90, k
[10:40] <bystander> Beryllium,  build-essential
[10:40] <test34> there was almost 700mb in my .debs archive..
[10:40] <jason_> i messaged the bot but got no response, i did this: /msg uboto ask
[10:40] <puff> Hm, should I do some sort of apt-get dist-upgrade with hoary?
[10:40] <Lars_G> moparfan90: in OSS my favorite FPS is BZFlag, but since you think anything non system taxing to be "old" and don't care how much fun it is, you'll possibly hate it.
[10:41] <puff> Given that this is a 5.0.4 install.
[10:41] <moparfan90> anyone know one?  seveas, thats a arcade game i mean real games
[10:41] <apokryphos> puff: to get to breezy, yes?
[10:41] <scx> Quiz: Is there a tarball to install Jack Sound Server ?
[10:41] <Lars_G> Seveas: This is your fault, I'm not normally this acid.
[10:41] <ZeroA4> Beryllium, You mean the build-essential ?http://ubuntuguide.org/#build-essential
[10:41] <moparfan90> ooo
[10:41] <Seveas> moparfan90, bzflag perhaps or wesnoth
[10:41] <scx> I need Muse, and it needs Jack, anyway I can't find out how to run it
[10:41] <dmb062082> aww man I am going to cry =)
[10:41] <jason_> !tell me uboto
[10:41] <Lars_G> scx: There's no jack package in the repositories?
[10:41] <Beryllium> Just trying to ./configure for the WINE project ... I'm having to go through a package at a time to meet all the requirements.
[10:41] <dmb062082> there is something better than wine eh?
[10:42] <bystander> !info kackd
[10:42] <scx> ahh srry,... I forgot ....
[10:42] <dmb062082> winex or something
[10:42] <jason_> can someone tell me how to msg the both correctly so I don't flood the channel with !tells?
[10:42] <Lars_G> Seveas: damn, we DO think alike, too sad you're holed up in that rats nest of Gnome
[10:42] <bystander> !info jackd
[10:42] <ubotu> jackd: (JACK Audio Connection Kit (server and example clients)), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.99.0-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 316 kB
[10:42] <Lars_G> apokryphos: There's no chance in us converting Seveas over?
[10:42] <Seveas> Lars_G, no
[10:42] <Bad_Magic> Can anyone help me with a lockup on boot? (It happens when ubuntu starts up the network stuff)
[10:42] <Seveas> not as long as kde sucks donkey balls ;)
[10:42] <GnuKemist> hehe
[10:42] <apokryphos> Lars_G: probably not, but I will get him to try to substantiate his kde claims one day ;-)
[10:42] <deFrysk> ^5 Seveas
[10:42] <bipolar> I found a gstreamer-pitfdll deb at: ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gst-pitfdll0.8/ and it lets me play wmv9 files.
[10:42] <scx> This machine is a suse ... I asked in the forum, anyway, they did not solve me the problem
[10:42] <Chii_Chan> bah... when I use sudo, it tells me that there is no such file or directory
[10:43] <scx> I have Ubuntu too
[10:43] <nalioth> !tell jason_ about msg the bot
[10:43] <scx> in my comp
[10:43] <Chii_Chan> even though it is sitting on my desktop
[10:43] <nalioth> jason_: you need to read what the bot tells you
[10:43] <bystander> !start a desktop war
[10:43] <ubotu> fluxbox is much better than kde!
[10:43] <Seveas> Bad_Magic, makse sure there are no 'auto' lines in /etc/network/interfaces except for 'auto lo'
[10:43] <apokryphos> Seveas: you definitely dislike kde more than I dislike gnome 8)
[10:43] <ZeroA4> dmb062082, It's called Cedega now
[10:43] <GnuKemist> Chii_Chan, sudo ommand goes here]
[10:43] <apokryphos> (not really anti-gnome at all, really; just non-gnome)
[10:43] <scx> ;)
[10:43] <Seveas> apokryphos, very well possible, knowing my opinion of kde :)
[10:43] <scx>  I read the man jackd
[10:43] <deFrysk> apokryphos, that is because gnome is too good to dislike
[10:43] <jason_> oh right i forgot im on ubuntu servers and not registered... thx
[10:43] <dmb062082> ahh ok zero, its been a while
[10:44] <scx>  and toldsme to run: jackstart
[10:44] <scx> But where is it ????  I couldn't find it
[10:44] <Lars_G> Seveas: One question sir, is it me, or some of the programs that require sudo are setuid already, and if sudo has cached the password you don't even need to use sudo at all?
[10:44] <Bad_Magic> seveas: i have auto wlan0 and eth0 but I would like them to come up automatically
[10:44] <apokryphos> deFrysk: or I don't see DEs as being mutually exclusive, or as one necessarily being objectively better in all cases than another
[10:44] <scx> so I ask if I can install it from source or something
[10:44] <puff> apokryphos: No, not to get breezy, but rather to get any new patches, etc, that have come out for hoary since I burned this install CD.
[10:44] <dmb062082> kde blows away gnome imho, its just a lot smoother, the only thing I like a lot about gnome is gdm
[10:44] <Seveas> Bad_Magic, try and remove them and see whether that works (probably wlan0 is the bad guy)
[10:45] <Bad_Magic> seveas: im sure it is (ndiswrapper -> Evil dell laptop)
[10:45] <dmb062082> I like all the KDE specific apps more as well
[10:45] <n3t0> someone from brazil here?
[10:45] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Am I right sir?
[10:45] <apokryphos> puff: yes, a plain sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will do it
[10:45] <Seveas> n3t0, #ubuntu-br
[10:45] <deFrysk> s/like/dislike
[10:45] <moparfan90> i need to have root access to install this and theres no place to type sudo  or something i just need a pw. what do i type?
[10:45] <GnuKemist> n3t0, here
[10:45] <puff> apokryphos: Ah, I was just about to ask you about the upgrade option :-).
[10:45] <ompaul> for those who want kde (why you would I can't figure) #kubuntu can help you with your pain :)
[10:45] <puff> Is there somewhere that logs all apt commands?
[10:45] <Seveas> moparfan90, wine?
[10:46] <Seveas> puff, only if you use aptitude
[10:46] <Bad_Magic> too bad the interface in kde is fugly
[10:46] <puff> Is "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" something that I should use on a regular basis?
[10:46] <Seveas> ompaul, good call
[10:46] <Seveas> puff, the update manager does that for you
[10:46] <dmb062082> looks like I need peng
[10:46] <puff> Seveas: Sounds like a good reason to use aptitude.
[10:46] <ompaul> Seveas, thank you
[10:46] <bystander> fluxbox rules!
[10:46] <robotgeek> bystander: also try openbox, you might like it
[10:46] <Seveas> and now lets stop the 1-zillionth iteration of this desktop war
[10:46] <Seveas> or else..
[10:47] <Chii_Chan> bah >.< stupid :/
[10:47] <Beryllium> you know what other box rules?
[10:47] <Beryllium> Margaret Thatcher's.
[10:47] <puff> Seveas: The update manager?
[10:47] <Chii_Chan> apparantly the file I copied didnt have the file inside I needed
[10:47] <Bad_Magic> reboot
[10:47] <Bad_Magic> =x
[10:47] <deFrysk> X-box ?
[10:47] <Seveas> puff, the ubuntu update manager, kinda like that annoying thing in winXP but lots better and friendlier
[10:47] <robotgeek> Seveas: okay :)
[10:47] <Lars_G> but still anoying
[10:48] <GoRoDeK> test34, sorry was away a few minutes. u can clean it manually or use apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean
[10:48] <deFrysk> Lars_G, wen stable less annoying
[10:48] <apokryphos> Lars_G: better keep desktop discussion in -offtopic, after it's repetitive =)
[10:48] <puff> Seveas: Is there a cron job that runs it, or do I need to invoke it on a regular basis?
[10:48] <IcE-bOy2> hi
[10:48] <Seveas> puff, grep apt -R /etc/cron*
[10:48] <Seveas> :)
[10:48] <ompaul> Seveas, so I got a phone call, can I do voip break out in the US and ring AOL, the guy was serious
[10:49] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Dude, I dropped the discussion already
[10:49] <IcE-bOy2> is possible download a iso from breezy ?
[10:49] <ompaul> Seveas, I told him to try
[10:49] <Seveas> IcE-bOy2, yes
[10:49] <IcE-bOy2> i'm going to buy a laptop with acpi problemas that only works with breezy
[10:49] <deFrysk> IcE-bOy2, a preview of breezy yes
[10:49] <IcE-bOy2> where is the url ?
[10:49] <IcE-bOy2> idon't find it
[10:49] <Seveas> cdimage.ubuntu.com
[10:49] <apokryphos> Lars_G: sure, I saw
[10:49] <IcE-bOy2> thanls
[10:50] <Bad_Magic> Seveas: removing the auto wlan0 fixed it
[10:50] <dmb062082> FOUND IT.... http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/net/penggy
[10:50] <Knelix2> Hey where are there good Ubuntu background/desktop images?
[10:50] <deFrysk> Knelix, art.gnome.org
[10:50] <robotgeek> Knelix2: www.gnome-look.org
[10:50] <bystander> Knelix, /home/accounts/.porn/  :P
[10:50] <Knelix2> Thanks.
[10:50] <Bad_Magic> seveas: thanks a bundle
[10:51] <Knelix2> huh?...
[10:51] <Knelix2> :-P
[10:51] <deFrysk> lol bystander
[10:51] <dmb062082> from looking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/net/penggy will I need any other files other than penggy? If I have a fresh install of ubuntu?
[10:51] <lorenzod> Very, very odd..
[10:51] <zeasier> how do you run the network configuration scripts from the install? i have a system without X that is having all kinds of networking trouble
[10:52] <puff> Seveas: So that's a "yes", then.
[10:52] <Knelix2> I can't set X-Chat to a degree of transparency, can I (Just on or off, right)?
[10:52] <puff> Seveas: Hm, if I'm using aptitude instead of apt-get, but the system has  cron jobs using apt-get, will they play nicely together?
[10:52] <Bad_Magic> why anyone would want to access AOL using linux is beyond me
[10:52] <Bad_Magic> but whatever
[10:52] <Seveas> puff, sure
[10:52] <dmb062082> bad_magic..  no other option...
[10:52] <Bad_Magic> webmail and gaim
[10:52] <Bad_Magic> among others
[10:52] <_DuDe_> Grrrrrrrr
[10:53] <dmb062082> bad magic i can not access the internet via gaim
[10:53] <bystander> Knelix, sure you can
[10:53] <Bad_Magic> should get broadband then
[10:53] <Seveas> dmb062082, guile-1.6-libs libguile-ltdl-1 libqthreads-12
[10:53] <sam3773> Any idea why my web browser won't load things any more, it did just a min ago and has stopped suddenly..
[10:53] <Bad_Magic> =P
[10:53] <fmasi> hi i have a x server problem in my ubuntu 5.04 whith a radeon mobility x700
[10:53] <Jowi> good evening all
[10:53] <dmb062082> ty
[10:53] <Coburn> hi
[10:53] <fmasi> can some one help me slove it ?
[10:54] <bystander> Knelix, settings - text box
[10:54] <Bad_Magic> beyond that I couldnt tell ya, do an apt-get install and give er a shot =)
[10:54] <cyphase> sam2772, do you have backports enabled?
[10:54] <Coburn> i have just install ubuntu 5.10
[10:54] <Bad_Magic> if it has dependencies it will yell at you
[10:54] <Coburn> im satisfied
[10:54] <dmb062082> ty
[10:54] <dmb062082> later
[10:54] <cyphase> sam3773, it's not loading, right?
[10:54] <Coburn> but i dont understand how to lunch mp3
[10:54] <cyphase> firefox
[10:55] <Seveas> !tell Coburn about mp3
[10:55] <Knelix> bystander: I see how to turn trans. on or off, but not in degrees.
[10:55] <bystander> Knelix, turn on "tint" and play with the settings
[10:56] <crtr> !tell crtr about mp3
[10:56] <Coburn> yes but where i m going to get package necessary?
[10:56] <fmasi> can some one help me whith my x config
[10:56] <n3t0> Seveas, pvt?
[10:56] <fmasi> x is not starting
[10:57] <Knelix2> bystander: I do not see any effect. Oh, well.
[10:57] <puterfixer> gentlemen, I need a bit of help. I'm trying to get my TV tuner working in Hoary, but I need to download the most recent sources from the CVS and compile them. what packages do I need to download for this? development? linux kernel sources? I'm pretty much a linux noob, be gentle ;)
[10:57] <bystander> Knelix, move the "tint" bars with transparency and tinting turned on
[10:58] <kemik> puterfixer:  to compile youll need "build-essential" at least
[10:58] <Bad_Magic> anyone know how to tell my laptop to hibernate automatically when the screen is closed?
[10:58] <Jowi> fmasi: did you try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[10:58] <kemik> (sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[10:58] <Beryllium> kemik: You know, that didn't actually install anything for me. No bison, no gcc ...
[10:58] <bystander> Knelix, you have to click "OK" to see the changes
[10:58] <fmasi>  no gona do it as root nowJowi
[10:58] <benuk> hey
[10:58] <nlindblad> does the standard Ubuntu Linux-kernel have VFAT-support (both read and write) ?
[10:58] <puterfixer> build-essential, check. anything else?
[10:59] <benuk> im just trying to use
[10:59] <kemik> puterfixer:  it'll complain if you cant compile
[10:59] <benuk> ubuntu on my system but i cannot install it
[10:59] <Jowi> fmasi: that will reconfigure X. it got plenty of options but if you read carefully it is not a big deal.
[10:59] <ZeroA4> nlindblad, Yes
[10:59] <kemik> puterfixer:  and from there i guess you can determine what you need.. linux-headers possibly
[10:59] <hajiki> Anyone on Breezy have a hard time updating this morning?
[10:59] <durt> bad_magic: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-37506.html
[10:59] <puterfixer> ok, gotcha
[10:59] <benuk> cant even use the mono live cd based on the ubuntu live cd
[10:59] <puff> Hm;
[10:59] <Tonio0505> does any one know how to reinstall the terminal, because for some reason every time i try to use it, it says that the file isnt found
[10:59] <funkyHat> hajiki, i had no problems
[11:00] <nlindblad> ZeroA4: my fried is on Ubuntu now, he is having a hard time getting his mp3-player to mount properly so that he can write to it
[11:00] <puterfixer> I hope I won't need to compile the kernel too, seems to have support for saa7134 module
[11:00] <benuk> i get an error : ohci_hcd 0000:00:13.1
[11:00] <puff> Hm; doing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade:  WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[11:00] <fmasi> Jowi thx gona try now
[11:00] <kemik> nlindblad:  what's the error ?
[11:00] <puterfixer> do I need anything extra for cvs or make?
[11:00] <Tonio0505> i would be very greatful if any one would like to help
[11:00] <hajiki> funkyHat, damn,im having trouble with x-common package, it cant verify it for some reason.
[11:00] <benuk> it is with the usb stuff
[11:00] <kemik> puff:  disable backports/extras
[11:00] <ZeroA4> nlindblad, What is his mp3-player like ?
[11:00] <Lars_G> Tonio0505: "the terminal" ??
[11:00] <fmasi> Jowi when i instal it every thing was ok but then at reboot x wont display enny thing but black screan
[11:01] <benuk> unlink after no-irq.  different acpi or apic settings may help
[11:01] <Tonio0505> yeah
[11:01] <kemik> puterfixer:  build-ess should include make
[11:01] <benuk> i dont know what they are
[11:01] <nlindblad> ZeroA4: Iriver 1090
[11:01] <Tonio0505> it isnt there
[11:01] <benuk> please help!
[11:01] <puff> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2467
[11:01] <Lars_G> Tonio0505: what do you mean with the terminal? please?
[11:01] <puterfixer> great, thanks kemik
[11:01] <puff> kemik: Okay.  Why?
[11:01] <Tonio0505> i have the root terminal but the regular terminal is like gone
[11:01] <funkyHat> hajiki, try a different mirror - i've had no end of problems using the central repositories
[11:01] <ZeroA4> nlindblad, What is one "Iriver 1090" like ?
[11:01] <tristanmike> can someone please help me...
[11:01] <puff> kemik: What are extras?
[11:01] <Lars_G> Tonio0505: just run a terminal, alt-f2 and run "xterm" or "gnome-terminal"
[11:01] <hajiki> funkyHat, ill give that a shot, thanks for the advise
[11:01] <Jowi> fmasi: yeah, something's not right. try the command i gave you. if it does not help, let us know.
[11:02] <cyphase> Anyone else having problems with Firefox?
[11:02] <nlindblad> ZeroA4: flashbased, USB-2.0, 256MiB vfat-compatible storage space
[11:02] <puterfixer> which version, cyphase ?
[11:02] <Slarti-> nope
[11:02] <cyphase> puterfixer, the latest upgrade
[11:02] <cyphase> 1.0.7
[11:02] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, sup?
[11:02] <kemik> !extras
[11:02] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, extras is For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:02] <benuk> please please help
[11:02] <Seveas> cyphase, only if you use backports
[11:02] <puterfixer> ah. I'm downloading it now, will let you know if I get in trouble.
[11:02] <cyphase> yea, i know
[11:03] <ZeroA4> nlindblad, There is a guide here of how to mount a vfat http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountfat
[11:03] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, thank you, I was gettting help from deFrysk earlier but he left and now I don't have Firefox anymore
[11:03] <kemik> puff:  but in your case, disable that from sources.list if it's added.. along with backports...
[11:03] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, fill me in
[11:03] <puterfixer> what problems? have you tried deleting/moving the default profile and letting it create it again?
[11:03] <kemik> !backports
[11:03] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[11:03] <nalioth> y'all be good
[11:03] <cyphase> tritanmike, http://cyphase.homelinux.com/blog/
[11:03] <benuk> anyone???
[11:03] <cyphase> i posted a fix for it
[11:03] <Seveas> benuk, 'sup?
[11:03] <ZeroA4> nlindblad, but you have to know here is it... like /dev/sda1 os something like that
[11:03] <GnuKemist> benuk, sup?
[11:03] <benuk> :'(
[11:03] <Jowi> nlindblad: my /etc/fstab has got this entry for my mp3. change as needed: /dev/sda1       /media/mp3 vfat defaults,user,umask=000      0       0
[11:04] <nlindblad> ZeroA4: I know my Linux dude
[11:04] <ZeroA4> nlindblad, Ok :)
[11:04] <benuk> i get an error : ohci_hcd 0000:00:13.1   unlink after no-irq.  different acpi or apic settings may help
[11:04] <Chii_Chan> stupid file oem6.inf doesnt even reference the driver I need for my lan card
[11:04] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, ok, I tried to update firefox earlier and I was getting errors, people said it was cause I was using backports, anyway, I was told to sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox firefox firefox-gnome-support mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox firefox firefox-gnome-support mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support and that's done but that's where I'm at....
[11:04] <benuk> when trying to run mono live cd
[11:05] <Tonio0505> thanks Lars_G
[11:05] <kemik> nlindblad:  you still have not described your problem beyond "i cant mount" .... you really should give more info if you want proper help
[11:05] <benuk> when i try and install breezy it just hangs at /etc/hotplug/usb.rc
[11:05] <Tonio0505> Lars_G i dont know why the icon in the system tools list dissapeared
[11:05] <benuk> the error in mono occurs during setting up usb
[11:05] <cyphase> tristanmike, no need wo purge. see my post, it'll tell you exactly what you need to do
[11:05] <cyphase> to purge*
[11:05] <Lars_G> Tonio0505: No idea, sorry
[11:05] <Jowi> tristanmike: same here. it is solved by first removing firefox totally. after that has finished - install firefox again. be sure to backup .mozilla just-in-case.
[11:05] <_jason> alright guys thanks for all the help, cya
[11:05] <puff> kemik:  Ah, okay, I hadn't been using extras, but I'll make a note of that.
[11:06] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, I'm assuming you added a new repository for firefox 1.0.7?
[11:06] <tristanmike> Jowi, too late to back up, now, but I'm a moron and I don't know how
[11:06] <nlindblad> kemik: well, I'm not the one experiencing the problem, a friend of mine is, and he doen't remember any error messages because it was a month since he tried
[11:06] <nlindblad> kemik: I can't tell you things about his problems that HE doesn't know, now can I?
[11:06] <bimberi> tristanmike: make sure you comment out any backports repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list before updating reinstalling
[11:06] <puterfixer> getting some errors while installing firefox 1.0.7
[11:06] <kemik> nlindblad:  pretty pointless to ask about it then ;)
[11:06] <GnuKemist> benuk, hummm...  something related to your cd...  what do you mean you get the error in mono?
[11:06] <cyphase> you don't need to disable backports
[11:06] <Jowi> tristanmike: my .mozilla directory did not change anyway, but just to be on the safe side. i managed just a couple of hours ago. remove completely. then install. do NOT upgrade.
[11:06] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, ok, back in June I installed Ubuntu and by the help of the forums I installed all I needed. Few issuses here and there everything was fine until today
[11:07] <nlindblad> kemik: my first question was actually if vfat was supported by the standard-kernel
[11:07] <Seveas> benuk, try acpi=off as boot parameter
[11:07] <kemik> puff:  not using old backports either ? or other repositories ?
[11:07] <kemik> it is
[11:07] <durt> how do you change the drop down menu color in opera? ive tryed playing with qtconfig but to now avail
[11:07] <tristanmike> cyphase, which post??
[11:07] <QMario> Are any of you guys going to be affected by Hurricane Rita?
[11:07] <cyphase> tristanmike, latest post at http://cyphase.homelinux.com/
[11:07] <benuk> Seveas: That likly to help as i need to reboot to do it (only got one machine)
[11:07] <kemik> QMario:  ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:08] <fmasi> Jowi it whorked
[11:08] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, I did my repos from Ubuntuguide from the advice of the mods on the forums
[11:08] <QMario> Kemik, okay.
[11:08] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, http://cyphase.homelinux.com/blog/
[11:08] <QMario> Sorry, and hello. :)
[11:08] <tristanmike> bimberi, I don't understand
[11:08] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, seems to be all there
[11:08] <fmasi> Now i have another problem a bit strange
[11:08] <cyphase> yea, but http://cyphase.homelinux.com/ redirects to http://cyphase.homelinux.com/blog/
[11:08] <cyphase> :)
[11:08] <kemik> QMario:  np and hi ;)
[11:08] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, I don't have firefox, remember
[11:08] <cyphase> use epiphany
[11:09] <cyphase> or another browser
[11:09] <puterfixer> the automatic upgrade installed (or tried to install) firefox 1.0.7, but it encountered two errors. may/should I paste the errors here?
[11:09] <Revan999> can someone help I was trying out the live cd and it said something along the lines: "displayed device is not configured right, please configure it and restart X , if problems prosist please vist *someweb site here about X" and make sure you have the latest version"
[11:09] <Lars_G> or konqueror if you have kde
[11:09] <fmasi> in my leptop when system start my keybord whot whork unkes i press a specifik key
[11:09] <fmasi> when i pres that key thing start whoirking
[11:09] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[11:09] <fmasi> like if it was a keybord on key
[11:09] <cyphase> tristanmike, i'll post it in #flood for you
[11:09] <bimberi> tristanmike: if you have repos from ubuntuguide then you need to "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and comment out any lines with backports in it
[11:09] <tristanmike> cyphase, I appreciate the advice, but I am happy with firefox for now, I don't want to go doing and using things I'm not comfortable with yet, I'm still a Linux baby
[11:09] <Jowi> fmasi: glad to hear it
[11:09] <cyphase> just the comman line section
[11:09] <Seveas> Revan999, how old is that live cd?
[11:10] <GnuKemist> bimberi, but I think he wants 1.0.7
[11:10] <cyphase> tristanmike, i don't mean switch
[11:10] <tristanmike> bimberi, why?
[11:10] <cyphase> i mean to view the post only
[11:10] <Revan999> came with the 5.04 cd that arrived today
[11:10] <cyphase> firefox is the best :)
[11:10] <alnr> why do i get 'sudo: cd: command not found' for sudo cd <anypath>. eg cd command is ok as root
[11:10] <bimberi> tristanmike, GnuKemist: sry, please ignore me if you want 1.0.7
[11:10] <cyphase> tristanmike, posting in #flood now..
[11:10] <tristanmike> cyphase, right, sorry, didn't mean anything, i just meant if I don't know how to install firefox, I won't know how to install ephipany or whatever
[11:10] <Seveas> Can any KDE lover lend me his experience with multimedia for a second?
[11:10] <fmasi> some one use ubuntu in a acer leptop ?
[11:10] <Lars_G> Seveas: Yes?
[11:10] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, get lynx when you have a chance... for the next time  ;)
[11:10] <Seveas> Lars_G, pm?
[11:11] <Lars_G> Seveas: Go ahead
[11:11] <Chii_Chan> ugh... brb
[11:11] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, I suggest you learn about apt-get and synaptics for your own benefit
[11:11] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, I am trying believe me, I like to learn
[11:12] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, I believe you
[11:12] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, glad to know you're here trying it too
[11:12] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, I kinda understand the basics, but it's still shaky ground for me
[11:13] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, been there, done that...  hang in there and visit this channel as often as you can
[11:13] <puterfixer> gentlemen, I can't upgrade to firefox 1.0.7 because I'm getting two errors about overwriting two files... can this be fixed?
[11:13] <Seveas> puterfixer, /topic
[11:13] <kemik> dont think this channel actually "heightens" competence by just hanging around
[11:13] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, I just sit in here and watch to learn but it's hard unless I have the problem :P
[11:13] <kemik> alot of the same Q's over and over again
[11:13] <spola> is the firefox i have in ubuntu (1.0.2 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2 MFSA2005-44)) vulnurable to the latest stew of exploits ive seen advertised on slashdot? they look kinda scary
[11:14] <puterfixer> err, sorry :) answer was staring at me, heh. thanks Seveas
[11:14] <kemik> (how do i mount ntfs, where is my sound... i installed breezy help!)
[11:14] <cyphase> spola, 1.0.2 is kinda old..
[11:14] <cyphase> are you on warty?
[11:14] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, www.ubuntuguide.org
[11:14] <Lars_G> spola: All firefoxes bellow 1.0.7 are vulnerable.
[11:14] <GnuKemist> kemik, true...
[11:14] <Seveas> kemik: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[11:14] <cyphase> spola, are you on warty?
[11:14] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, ?? what? I don't understand
[11:14] <Seveas> tristanmike, ubuntuguide.org sucks and is down too
[11:14] <spola> im not on breezy, the one before that
[11:14] <cyphase> hoary
[11:15] <cyphase> ok
[11:15] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, try that site when you get firefox up
[11:15] <cyphase> why do you have 1.0.2 then?
[11:15] <tristanmike> Seveas, see how confused I am
[11:15] <cyphase> it should be 1.0.7 now
[11:15] <Jowi> yeah spola you should upgrade
[11:15] <kemik> Seveas:  i know, i know ;) i dont use that script tho.. added it myself in fstab... just said what was the most common quiestions in here
[11:15] <GnuKemist> Seveas, how so?
[11:15] <quinten> is 5.10pr ready for mainstream use?
[11:15] <Seveas> kemik, ah, i had a weird feeling about it already ;)
[11:15] <cyphase> no
[11:15] <cyphase> quinten, it's testing right now
[11:15] <Seveas> GnuKemist, because it has bad instructions no explanations and generally ruins things
[11:15] <tristanmike> Sill no firefox.....
[11:16] <cyphase> tristanmike, then you have a special case i think
[11:16] <spola> i dont like to upgrade (i came from gentoo), but okay ... but this better not fubar anything !
[11:16] <misfit_toy>  my xorg got jacked after the recent updates, and I have had to edit my xorg.conf... however it appears that it points to /dev/input/mice for the mouse (which I didn't change), and I tried changing it to /dev/input/mouse1 but get no mouse action, where is the actual mouse device file located?
[11:16] <Seveas> quinten, no
[11:16] <quinten> cyphase: yeah i know that, just wondering how unstable it is. release is due in a month, right?
[11:16] <GnuKemist> Seveas, for a newbie, I'd have to agree... but it is the only one I know
[11:16] <Seveas> misfit_toy, update again
[11:16] <tristanmike> cyphase, it starts to load, then dissapears
[11:16] <cyphase> quinten, less :)
[11:16] <nightair> x-common conflict with Breezy update package, anyone mentioned here yet?
[11:16] <misfit_toy> Seveas I have
[11:16] <misfit_toy> no updates
[11:16] <Seveas> that specific bug was fixed one or two days ago
[11:16] <Seveas> nightair, yes, we're waiting for a new update...
[11:16] <quinten> so i guess my question could be answered by the number of RC bugs left
[11:16] <nightair> Seveas, thanks. cool
[11:17] <puterfixer> Seveas, "stop using backports" doesn't help me much... what do I need to do? I removed the two backports listed in repositories and refreshed everything. still won't install.
[11:17] <quinten> i have to do a new install, wondering if i can get away with install 5.10 instead of 5.04
[11:17] <Seveas> quinten, as you can see, there are still some bugs floating around ;)
[11:17] <kemik> GnuKemist:  with breezy there will be an official FAQ/Guide... (hopefully they'll overwrite/delete ubuntuguide.org ;) )
[11:17] <spola> uhm ... ubuntu reports my system as being up-to-date?!
[11:17] <Seveas> puterfixer, you need to remove the backports packages too
[11:17] <Seveas> that'll cost some time
[11:17] <GnuKemist> kemik, hehehe... will keep my eyes open
[11:17] <puterfixer> how do I do that?
[11:17] <tristanmike> Can no one help me?
[11:17] <Seveas> puterfixer, http://cyphase.homelinux.com/blog/
[11:18] <Lars_G> Seveas: What's so wrong with backports? did they break overnight? since lots of people seem to have them, and lots of people are needing to remove them
[11:18] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, try removing the backports and refreshing apt-get?
[11:18] <puterfixer> thank you, Seveas.
[11:18] <Seveas> Lars_G, the firefox backports have always been broken
[11:18] <Seveas> and are ruining all updates in hoary
[11:18] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, if the help posted on cyphase's blog doesn't help
[11:18] <Lars_G> Seveas: Ok.
[11:18] <quinten> damn. how unstable, and with which parts? all i need is a browser + word processor
[11:18] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, go baclk to stable
[11:19] <puterfixer> it would be great if firefox worked, heh. I guess I'll remove it completely.
[11:19] <Lars_G> Seveas: Right now then the only solution for 1.0.7 is getting the bin off mozilla.org? for hoary?
[11:19] <Seveas> Lars_G, no
[11:19] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, I just reinstalled the main firefox packs
[11:19] <Lars_G> Seveas: Elaborate please
[11:19] <Seveas> the solution is to remove backports crap and install the official package
[11:19] <Seveas> that is 1.0.7 too
[11:19] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, how do I update apt?
[11:19] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, 1.0.6?
[11:19] <cyphase> Lars_G, what's your problem?
[11:19] <cyphase> it isn't loading?
[11:19] <walde> Hello. I have a problem with subversion. I used a file-repository with gentoo (I have no clue about the special file-version). When I try to access the file-repository with theubuntu-subversion, I get the error-message that db-4.2 dosnt meet the requirements. I havent found any backports only messages about there cant exist any backports. I hope for a better answer here :-)
[11:19] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, no 1.0.7
[11:19] <Lars_G> Seveas: 1.0.7 is on security ups to hoary already?
[11:19] <Lars_G> Seveas: Nice
[11:19] <moparfan90> hello i am going to buy a print this weekend and want to know if theres are alot that are NOT supported so i know which to buy. is theree a list or something?
[11:19] <nightair> 1.0.7 firefox what's wrong with it? mine seems fine. arrived in Breezy updates yesterday I think it was
[11:19] <Lars_G> walde: My problem is that I am a freak.
[11:19] <Seveas> Lars_G, since tonight
[11:19] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, I don't beliebe 107 is stable yet
[11:20] <Seveas> Lars_G, :)
[11:20] <Lars_G> cyphase: Sorry that was for you, not for walde
[11:20] <Lars_G> Seveas: Thank you
[11:20] <cyphase> Lars_G, i see
[11:20] <cyphase> :)
[11:20] <quinten> maybe i'll dl the live cd and play around w/it for a while
[11:20] <walde> Lars_G, for some seconts... I was confused :-)
[11:20] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, apt-get update
[11:20] <walde> Lars_G, aeeh seconds
[11:20] <Lars_G> walde: That's because I am a freak, and this time it IS for you
[11:21] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, ok, now what?
[11:21] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, make sure to comment out the backport source
[11:21] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, did u do that?
[11:21] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, I did
[11:21] <GnuKemist> k
[11:22] <feralgirl> are there an ubuntu/linux gurus here willing at answer a couple questions? i'm thinking of changing from windows to linux and i need some help
[11:22] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, I get the little "Starting Firefox Browser" down on my bar, and then it dissapears. I know it's running in the background cause it shows up in system monitor
[11:22] <GnuKemist> now, apt-get remove firefox
[11:22] <cyphase> feralgirl, sure
[11:22] <jpoe> Hey, I have a question ... how does Ubuntu/Canonical financially sustain itself?
[11:22] <jpoe> I can't even find a donate link on their website...
[11:22] <Lars_G> jpoe: Aparently, magic.
[11:22] <othernoob> jpoe: they sell drugs..
[11:22] <jpoe> hah
[11:22] <GnuKemist> hehehe
[11:22] <feralgirl> cyphase: okay, should i pm you?
[11:22] <spola> jpoe, they pimp me out
[11:22] <cyphase> feralgirl, sure
[11:22] <bystander> jpoe, mark Shutleworth has a lot of money ;)
[11:22] <Lars_G> jpoe: On lonely nights Seveas sells his body to sailors
[11:23] <Seveas> jpoe, Mark Shuttleworth is filthy rich
[11:23] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, ?
[11:23] <jpoe> Grin, I know it was Shuttleworth who began it all .. but surely it can't sustain itself forever off of him ..
[11:23] <Seveas> and he spends an awful lot of money on it
[11:23] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, yes?
[11:23] <Seveas> jpoe, canonical does provide commercial ubuntu support
[11:23] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, done?
[11:23] <kemik> haha omg.. i just fubared my mozilla
[11:23] <Lars_G> jpoe: I pray it eventually is self sustained, Ubuntu is too good to see it dissapear.
[11:24] <apokryphos> jpoe: it certainly can for a long time
[11:24] <Lars_G> kemik: Welcome to the club
[11:24] <fmasi> hi i usa adsl in ubuntu to conec to the net and i usad to rp-pppoe and like to know if ther is enny way to usa it under ubuntu?
[11:24] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Depends on how many ubuntu cds you order.
[11:24] <jpoe> Yeah, its the first time I've ever switch and stuck with it .. now I can't imaging going back ..
[11:24] <apokryphos> jpoe: and it's not so much the case now that it relies on him for its existence. Ubuntu is big.
[11:24] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, Package firefox has no installation candidate
[11:24] <jpoe> I kinda wish they had a way to donate ..
[11:24] <Lars_G> jpoe: Welcome to the club, love for Ubuntu is a natural thing.
[11:24] <apokryphos> tristanmike: mozilla-firefox
[11:24] <Lars_G> tristanmike: mozilla-firefox
[11:24] <Seveas> apokryphos, well.... without canonical Ubuntu would have a very hard time
[11:24] <Seveas> jpoe, there is
[11:24] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, maybe mozilla-firefox
[11:25] <jpoe> I couldn't give much, but I would like to give something back ..
[11:25] <borgista> I am on Breezy and when I run "sudo dhclient ath0" I get a lot of messages about "Permisison Denied"
[11:25] <borgista> any ideas?
[11:25] <Seveas> jpoe, the best donation is to participate in the community
[11:25] <jpoe> I almost feel bad for ordering the free cds .. heh
[11:25] <borgista> It's for a wireless pci card.
[11:25] <Seveas> !participate
[11:25] <ubotu> hmm... participate is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/participate
[11:25] <hd420> Is archive.ubuntu.com down?
[11:25] <Lars_G> jpoe: Only feel bad if you hoard them. I gave away half of mine already
[11:25] <apokryphos> nope
[11:25] <lorenzod> Hm.. can somebody please confirm or deny a oddity in Rhythmbox?
[11:25] <jpoe> Yeah, same here ..
[11:25] <Seveas> and the ubuntu main page has a big "Donations" link in the menu on the right :)
[11:25] <puterfixer> yay, it worked!!
[11:25] <borgista> Anybody have any experience w/ dhclient?
[11:26] <borgista> I've had it work last time.
[11:26] <lorenzod> Or is it the case that nobody uses rb?
[11:26] <Seveas> borgista, any Ubuntu user with dhcp has
[11:26] <Lars_G> borgista: What experience do you need? basically you run "dhclient <iface>" and it works....
[11:26] <spola> why is it that ubuntu "can't" distribute mp3 playing software while Suse seems to have no problem with it?
[11:26] <borgista> Well...it's not working with me.
[11:26] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, ok, so I sudo'd remove, then install mozilla-firefox
[11:26] <borgista> I get a lot of "Permission Denied" errors.
[11:26] <Lars_G> borgista: Btw you shouldn't be running dhclient by hand, ideally you need to configure your interface in the corresponding place.
[11:26] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, wait
[11:26] <bystander> spola, they pay for the privilege
[11:26] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, no, it's fixed,
[11:26] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, try something for me
[11:26] <Lars_G> borgista: "sudo" dude, "sudo"
[11:26] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, ohhh
[11:26] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, cool
[11:27] <othernoob> are there any other CLI burning programs besides cdrdao and cdrecord?
[11:27] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, for now, hehehe
[11:27] <hd420> must be my fscking isp
[11:27] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, hehehe
[11:27] <hd420> othernoob: dd?
[11:27] <deviant> hello guys
[11:27] <borgista> I dude use "SUDO"
[11:27] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, and it starts up uber-fast
[11:27] <borgista> i did "sudo dhclient ath0"
[11:27] <Lars_G> borgista: Sorry sir :)
[11:27] <GnuKemist> borgista, lower case
[11:27] <steffan> moin moin
[11:27] <borgista> still the errors.
[11:27] <borgista> i know, lowercase.
[11:27] <tristanmike> THANKS ALL!
[11:27] <fmasi> What is the ubuntu utility for adsl ?
[11:27] <Lars_G> borgista: ath0 or eth0?
[11:28] <borgista> here are some of the errors.
[11:28] <Jowi> ...speaking of rhythmbox, how do i make it play wav files? it sort of refuse to import them...
[11:28] <borgista> for ath0
[11:28] <Seveas> fmasi, pppoeconf
[11:28] <spola> so every distro with mp3 support pays for it? i find it hard to belive that
[11:28] <borgista> and I brought up the atho with "sudo ifconfig ath0 up"
[11:28] <steffan> jemand erfahrung mit der DWL-610 ???
[11:28] <tristanmike> I guess that's why they say the Backports can break your machine eh?
[11:28] <fmasi> cant i usa adsl-setup ?
[11:28] <Lars_G> borgista: ... I've never seen an ath0 interface in linux yet.... try with eth0
[11:28] <borgista> errors: SIOCSIFADDR: Permission Denied
[11:28] <deviant> can somebody help me with an error in dpkg pls ?
[11:28] <borgista> it's for my wireless card Lars_G
[11:28] <othernoob> hd420: uhm, the dd manpage isn't that great..
[11:28] <yaaar> word
[11:28] <Seveas> steffan, in #ubuntu spricht mann englisch, #ubuntu-de fuer deutsch bitt
[11:28] <Seveas> e
[11:28] <borgista> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission Denied
[11:29] <fmasi> Seveas is it bether the rp-ppoe ?
[11:29] <Lars_G> borgista: Ok, sorry first time I see that interface naming conv.
[11:29] <Seveas> yaaar, no, OpenOffice.org
[11:29] <abarbaccia> hey all - breezy questions - or comments - if i found a bug where do i submit it, and who do i talk to about packages not instaling correctly?
[11:29] <spola> even then, if it is possible for end users to install the support libs legally, then surely the ubuntu team could come up with a nice legal lil clickable button to automate this process?
[11:29] <Seveas> fmasi, I wouldn't know :)
[11:29] <GnuKemist> borgista, is the device configured?
[11:29] <Seveas> abarbaccia, see /topic
[11:29] <borgista> Yes, it is. I setup essid, the channel, ec.
[11:29] <GnuKemist> borgista, ath0 is wifi right?
[11:29] <borgista> etc*
[11:29] <kemik> Lars_G:  you have a repos / link to 1.0.6 version ?
[11:29] <Seveas> and if it's the x-common bug: already known
[11:29] <borgista> Yes, it is. GnuKemist
[11:29] <Lars_G> kemik: ? nope.
[11:30] <GnuKemist> borgista, try to reset it
[11:30] <Jowi> fmasi: roaringpenguin (rp-pppoe) is ok. basicly the same functionalities.
[11:30] <GnuKemist> borgista, essid any, key off... then set them... dhclient
[11:30] <borgista> Reset it? Run through iwconfig again, you mean?
[11:30] <borgista> ok.
[11:30] <borgista> Will do.
[11:30] <Lars_G> If it's a pcmcia
[11:30] <borgista> Be back with the results soon.
[11:30] <Lars_G> check the status with cardctl
[11:30] <kemik> Lars_G:  and  you've not gotten firefox back&running ?
[11:30] <deviant> Seveas: can i ask you something pls ?
[11:30] <Lars_G> kemik: I'm still using 1.0.6
[11:31] <Lars_G> kemik: From before the update, I've not updated yet.
[11:31] <fmasi> what is the equivalent to adsl-start and adsl-stop ?
[11:31] <Seveas> deviant, mais bien sr :)
[11:31] <Lars_G> kemik: Plus the 1.0.7 in the offitial repos should work.
[11:31] <Lars_G> Seveas: you're a box of surprises
[11:32] <borgista> GnuKemist, same errors.
[11:32] <borgista> What is odd is that it worked perfectly the first time with Breezy.
[11:32] <Beryllium> what's iwconfig?
[11:32] <kemik> Lars_G:  only got the official repos. added
[11:32] <kemik> Lars_G:  it installs, but refuses to 'start' ....
[11:32] <borgista> iwconfig helps you config your wifi card.
[11:32] <Beryllium> oh, cool
[11:32] <GnuKemist> borgista, dunno
[11:32] <Beryllium> I've never done wifi under Linux
[11:32] <Lars_G> kemik: What's the error if you start it from command line?
[11:32] <Beryllium> Did it under Windows a few times, it always seemed kinda ... flakey ... even in XP
[11:33] <borgista> Breezy auto-detected my card, which is nice.
[11:33] <deviant> Seveas: could you please past me your sources.list file. i`ve deleted mine by mistake :( and my damn firefox ain` working (i read the topic) so i can`t brows for repositories on the web
[11:33] <Lars_G> borgista: Is it a pcmcia?
[11:33] <borgista> It is PCI.
[11:33] <kemik> Lars_G:  no error
[11:33] <feralgirl> i'm not experienced at IRC so if there's anyone willing to answer quite a few questions about ubuntu/linux, could you AIM me at wolfdragon2848 or ICQ 129365036
[11:33] <Seveas> !tell deviant about sources
[11:33] <kemik> Lars_G:  nothing happens, tahts all
[11:33] <Lars_G> kemik: It just doesn't runs?
[11:33] <kemik> mmh
[11:33] <Lars_G> kemik: I'd tell you to strace it, but that'd be more confusing than helping.
[11:33] <kevogod> feralgirl, Is there no reason why you cannot simply ask the questions here?
[11:33] <Seveas> ah, read Seveas you foo, he can't browse...
[11:33] <kemik> it shows in ps aux
[11:33] <fmasi> Jowi what is the equivalent to adls-start in the utility that comes whith ubuntu ?
[11:33] <deviant> Seveas: i`ve just said my damn firefox ain`t workin` :(
[11:34] <feralgirl> i suppose i could but i'm sort of getting a sensory overload
[11:34] <deviant> fmasi: pon, poff ??
[11:34] <Seveas> deviant, breezy or hoary sources?
[11:34] <misfit_toy> Seveas ok, you said "update" to fix that xorg prob but you meant "upgrade" right?
[11:34] <yaaar> anybody know why k3b is telling me mp3's are an unsupported format?
[11:34] <yaaar> seems like this used to work fine....
[11:34] <kemik> Lars_G:  resolved it ... somehow it was running a firefox process in the background.... killed it and restarted firefox
[11:34] <deviant> Seveas: hoary
[11:34] <Jowi> fmasi: good question. i think that pppoeconf adds the startup scripts automatically after configuration. only done it once and it worked fine...
[11:34] <CaptainBah> we have a proliant g4 with a xeon processor. installed using the i386 cd. how best to upgrade to xeon kernel?
[11:35] <Seveas> deviant, sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d969 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:35] <Jowi> fmasi: i'm not on pppoe connection here
[11:35] <Lars_G> kemik: You had a firefox process hung, yes. it detects the process and thinks it's already up. sorry it didn't come to mind.
[11:35] <kemik> Lars_G:  thx for reminding me of the CLI ;)
[11:35] <fmasi> Jowi ok thx
[11:35] <Lars_G> kemik: Np
[11:35] <Seveas> that overwrites your sources.list with the official one
[11:35] <fmasi> Jowi its becouse i usad the rp-pppoe for years
[11:35] <Lars_G> Seveas: I personally think netselect-apt should be a default install in any Ubuntu
[11:35] <borgista> Ok. I'm going to the DHCP site for anwers...thanks for the help.
[11:35] <Seveas> Lars_G, afaik it is, but broken
[11:35] <Lars_G> Seveas: Broken? how?
[11:36] <fmasi> Some one from brasil hear ?
[11:36] <Seveas> wrong repo urls :)
[11:36] <Jowi> fmasi: yeah, same here up until a year and a half ago when i got dsl2. no login/dialup required. :)
[11:36] <Seveas> fmasi, #ubuntu-br is full of brazilians
[11:36] <Bergcube> QUERY feralgirl
[11:36] <Bergcube> +/ of course
[11:36] <fmasi> ok thx
[11:36] <Lars_G> Seveas: Last time I asked I was told it pulled Ubuntu's repos.... if I remember who it was I'd spank them
[11:36] <fmasi> Jowi i love to have adsl2 lol
[11:36] <Bergcube> Seveas~ Yeah, I needed it...
[11:36] <borgista> Where are all the network interface conf files?
[11:36] <misfit_toy> Seveas ok, you said "update" to fix that xorg prob but you meant "upgrade" right? then I get an xorg.font dpkg error
[11:36] <Seveas> Lars_G, I may very well be wrong too
[11:36] <Lars_G> Seveas: Wouldn't it be saffer to pull it off the repos until it is patched?
[11:37] <Seveas> misfit_toy, yeah, currently xorg-common is busted
[11:37] <Lars_G> Seveas: Let's do something, I'll install it from repo, and tell you where it gets the list
[11:37] <deviant> Seveas: thanks
[11:37] <Seveas> Lars_G, be my guest :)
[11:37] <misfit_toy> Seveas ah ok, thanks
[11:37] <Lars_G> Seveas: Do you have a nice house?
[11:37] <Seveas> Lars_G, don't take things so literally :p
[11:38] <Lars_G> Seveas: Damn: url="http://www.debian.org/mirror/mirrors_full"
[11:38] <Lars_G> Seveas: Seems you're right.
[11:38] <Seveas> file a bug ;)
[11:38] <Lars_G> Yup
[11:38] <deviant> oh shoot :(
[11:38] <Jowi> fmasi: it is quite impressive. i'm with free.fr and they support everything. even their manuals tell how to compile the linux-kernel for proper support if needed. no ports blocked.
[11:38] <Lars_G> or let me see if we have a maintainer over in ubuntu yet, and contact hir
[11:39] <fmasi> Jowi you from france
[11:39] <Seveas> Lars_G, the maintainers usually don't talk much in this channel
[11:39] <Bergcube> feralgirl~ I tried adding you in AIM, but that went belly-up.  So I sent you a direct message here in IRC.  Just so you know...
[11:39] <fmasi> Jowi I french and bresilian
[11:39] <Lars_G> Seveas: No, but theyr emails are usually published for contact
[11:39] <deviant> Seveas: can i query you for just a minute ?
[11:39] <Jowi> fmasi: nope, swedish. but i live in Paris. sortof got married :)
[11:39] <Seveas> deviant, sure
[11:39] <kemik> Jowi:  "sortof"? :P
[11:39] <Lars_G> Seveas: Only the insanely criminal, or desesperatedly in need talk here.
[11:40] <Seveas> Lars_G, well, the one listened in the package is not neccesarily the maintainer
[11:40] <fmasi> Jowi litle french girl ummmm
[11:40] <Seveas> Lars_G, so true
[11:40] <fmasi> Jowi love french girls
[11:40] <fmasi> Jowi where do you leave ?
[11:40] <Lars_G> Seveas: Damn, I want a packages.ubuntulinux.org so baddly.
[11:40] <Seveas> fmasi, #ubuntu-offtopic or a private chat please
[11:40] <kemik> this is gonna go off in a a/s/l question soon
[11:40] <Seveas> Lars_G, hint: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:40] <Jowi> kemik: yeah. never planned it. i'm actually against marriages. funny how life develops.
[11:41] <Jowi> fmasi: boulogne-billancourt, Paris.
[11:41] <feralgirl> bergcube: i got your message and i replied but i'm not sure if u got it
[11:41] <Lars_G> ohhh yes, ohhhhhhh yes
[11:41] <CaptainBah> we have a proliant g4 with a xeon processor. installed using the i386 cd. how best to upgrade to xeon kernel?
[11:41] <bystander> feralgirl, I pm ed you as well - no answer
[11:41] <Seveas> CaptainBah, sudo aptitude install linux-686
[11:41] <Jowi> 686 CaptainBah
[11:41] <Seveas> (if it's HT or SMP, use linux-686-smp)
[11:41] <Jowi> oh
[11:42] <Lars_G> Seveas: linux-686? why not linux-image?
[11:42] <Bergcube> feralgirl~ No, I didn't.  Some foul play must be afoot.  :-S
[11:42] <feralgirl> bystander: i answered you too. i don't know why i can't reply back
[11:42] <Jowi> Seveas: you're quick man
[11:42] <Lars_G> Jowi: He's the quickest
[11:42] <Seveas> Lars_G, gotta love meta packages and apt :)
[11:42] <Seveas> linux-686 depends on latest image + restricted modules
[11:42] <feralgirl> okay, okay. i also have msn and yahoo if either of you has it
[11:42] <Seveas> easy as pie to keep your kernel up to date
[11:42] <Echelon-H> is there a command to tell something to start running and ignore the returned valus?
[11:42] <Xorlev> Okay, installing a brand new install on my old rackmount, normal install, not server, AMD K6-2 786mb ram, 20gb hdd, pressed 5.04 CD, anyways I get to installing the base system and it chokes trying to install base-files as awk is missing, and base-passwd because base-files is missing and it finally dies and gives an error. Ideas?
[11:43] <Lars_G> Seveas: linux-686 is a meta for what? image headers and private modules?
[11:43] <Echelon-H> Because i have an SH script, and I need it to run sevral things, and not one at a time
[11:43] <Bergcube> feralgirl~ Did the direct messages pop up in their own windows?  (They usually do...)  If so it's normally not any harder than writing the reply in the same window.....
[11:43] <CaptainBah> will other things break if we just upgrade kernel? should we do a full install with the amd64 CD?
[11:43] <feralgirl> bergcube: a new window did appear and i did write back in it. maybe it's my client that's all screwy
[11:44] <Lars_G> Echelon-H: a) nohup detaches the command from console, sending output to a file (nohup.out). B) Adding & at the end of the command line, runs it in the background... C) you an combine A and B
[11:44] <Seveas> CaptainBah, xeon isn't amd64..
[11:44] <bystander> feralgirl, are you behind a firewall or router of some kind? Or a proxy ?
[11:44] <Sam3773> Hey, i notice Ubuntu doesn't have modprobe.conf. My router wont support IPv6, how do i turn it off in Ubuntu?
[11:44] <Bergcube> feralgirl~ Even if it sort of sounds unlikely, I think that (screwy client) must be it.....  Puzzling.
[11:45] <puff> Hm, I'm restoring files my backed up home directory, can I just copy my old .mozilla/* over ~/.mopzilla*?
[11:45] <Lars_G> Echelon-H: so. "nohup <command> &" will run it in background, under Init instead of your shell, and send all output to nohup.out (in the dir you where located when you called it)
[11:45] <feralgirl> bystander: a firewall and a router
[11:45] <Seveas> Sam3773, echo ipv6 | sudo tee -a /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[11:45] <Echelon-H> Lars_G, thanks
[11:45] <Sam3773> Cheers.
[11:45] <Lars_G> Seveas: Are there any ubuntu based lives and task specific distros out there already?
[11:45] <Seveas> no
[11:45] <Lars_G> Sad
[11:45] <Seveas> edubuntu will be out soon
[11:46] <Lars_G> It'd be nice to see Knoppix go ubuntu
[11:46] <Xorlev> Sam3773: You can edit /etc/modules I believe?
[11:46] <Seveas> hint: gnoppix
[11:46] <yonil> Hi, I'm experiencing a weird problem, my laptop used to work fine with ubuntu, but then one time i started it as usual and after all the loading, the x server didnt come up (i get a black screen). the xorg conf hasnt been changed or anything.. any ideas why this happens ?
[11:46] <bystander> feralgirl, what client are you using? I get no ctcp replies either...
[11:46] <Lars_G> Seveas: Yeh but right now I'm looking for a base sys for a traffic shapper, firewall.
[11:46] <Seveas> yonil, breezy?
[11:46] <yonil> Seveas, hoary
[11:46] <tritium> there was a gnome 2.10 live cd, Lars_G, based on ubuntu
[11:46] <feralgirl> bystander: i'm using trillian
[11:46] <Seveas> tritium, the 2.12 live cd is based on ubuntu too
[11:46] <Seveas> (afaik)
[11:47] <bystander> feralgirl, /join #bystander
[11:47] <esac> i have my router set to static dns entries (205.171.2 and 205.171.3). but everytime i boot, i end up getting <IP_ADDRESS> and 205.171.3, any idea how to fix it ?
[11:47] <Seveas> esac, it's a stting in your router :)
[11:47] <tritium> Seveas, hopefully so
[11:47] <ColonelKernel> esac, which router?
[11:47] <tristanmike> Since I commented out the Backports, what do I replace them with?
[11:47] <Seveas> tristanmike, nothing :)
[11:47] <esac> ColonelKernel: ActionTec DSL (qwest)
[11:48] <Jowi> esac: turn on DHCP in your router and set it up properly.
[11:48] <esac> Seveas: I set it to static dns
[11:48] <yonil> Seveas, any ideas or stuff i can check ?
[11:48] <ColonelKernel> esac, im not familiar with that router, but you should see if theres a "local dns" option in it and disable it
[11:48] <tristanmike> Seveas, lol, ok but what about the software in them, might there be something I need?
[11:48] <bystander> feralgirl, can you not join the #bystander channel either??
[11:48] <Seveas> yonil, not without more info i'm afraid
[11:48] <Seveas> tristanmike, what did you use from backports?
[11:49] <feralgirl> bystander: i just joined it
[11:49] <yonil> Seveas, what info ? i can also add that ctrl+altr+F1-6 doesn't do anything
[11:49] <bystander> feralgirl, yup ao I see :)
[11:49] <tristanmike> Seveas, see, that's thing, i don't know how to distinguish what's from the backports and what isn't, is there a way?
[11:49] <tristanmike> Seveas, I guess java and mp3, is that the backports, I installed them in june
[11:50] <Seveas> tristanmike, apt-show-versions | grep ubp
[11:50] <CaptainBah> every time we reboot the system it is prompting us to fsck, we go into sing user mode and do and fsck on the supect partitions the check report clean and yet when we reboot it stillprompts us for fsck
[11:50] <Seveas> you might need to install apt-show-versions
[11:50] <osmandemirhan> hi all, there is a problem upgrading firefox 1.0.7 packages. Does anybody give some hint to solve problem?
[11:51] <Sam3773> Since i did that the internet isn't working, infact the only things that work are the ones that were connected before like IRC..
[11:51] <crimsun> osmandemirhan: have you used backports?
[11:51] <nubbe> hehe
[11:51] <osmandemirhan> crimsun, yes
[11:51] <slack7384> osmandemirhan: did you use apt/synaptic?
[11:51] <tristanmike> Seveas, yeah, I do, sudo apt-get install apt-show-versions?
[11:51] <crimsun> osmandemirhan: if so, disable it, purge firefox*
[11:51] <kamiro87> hello
[11:52] <slack7384> kamiro87: hello
[11:52] <esac> i just checked every setting. the only dns options i see are with the DHCP section. and i have set those to force to 205.171.2 and 205.171.3 .. i had it dynamic before and it still had this problem. any ideas ?
[11:52] <Seveas> tristanmike, yes
[11:52] <osmandemirhan> crimsun, thanks
[11:52] <j-linux> Does anyone know if there is a way to download pictures in an HTML email in Evolution?  I want the default to be "no download images" but I want to override that for some.
[11:52] <kamiro87> i'm a noob and i installed ubuntu on this comp and i'm having trouble getting resolutions above 640x480
[11:53] <vbgunz> hello everyone!
[11:53] <tristanmike> Seveas, ok, so installed, and I ran that command, what is the info?
[11:53] <slack7384> kamiro87: what proc does this pc have? also what vid card does the pc have installed?
[11:53] <j-linux> kamiro87: did you try: preferences --> screen resolution?
[11:53] <kamiro87> vid card is agp intel 740
[11:54] <kamiro87> proccessor is a pentium 3 1ghz
[11:54] <tristanmike> Seveas, that' just the "Offical" stuff? if I have something not in there, it's from the backports?
[11:54] <vbgunz> does anyone know how to right-click a folder in the left side tree of Nautilus and get a command prompt menu option?
[11:54] <slack7384> kamiro87: did you try what j-linux suggested?
[11:54] <Seveas> tristanmike, apt-show-versions | grep ubp
[11:54] <kamiro87> yes wont let me go above 640x480 at 60 hertz
[11:54] <Seveas> that shows all packages installed from backports
[11:54] <puff> Btw, just for reference, what *are* the backports all about?
[11:55] <CaptainBah> when a kernel panic occurs, as it did for us with kernel 2.6.12-8-386, Ctl-Alt-Del fails, magic SysRq fails, what's the best way to get out of that situation safely?
[11:55] <slack7384> kamiro87: ok, using the sudo command can you browse to /etc/X11 directory?
[11:55] <Seveas> about trying to combine bleeding-edge with stable
[11:55] <Seveas> a fundamentally bad thing imho
[11:55] <Seveas> but some people love them
[11:55] <tristanmike> Seveas, yeah, that's what I'm saying, I ran that command, what is the info, just the "official" stuff anything else was installed via Backports or on my own, ie Americas Army
[11:55] <Seveas> the old backports, before the ubuntu backports project went official, sucked massively though
[11:55] <Seveas> that's why lots of people now have problems
[11:56] <vbgunz> Seveas? What your mean? Backports official are official now?
[11:56] <Xorlev> Meh I still get dependency problems.
[11:56] <othernoob> anyone tried installing cdrecord-prodvd?
[11:56] <Seveas> vbgunz, yes, but not the crappy things on the mirrormax-or-so archives
[11:56] <Seveas> only the ones on archive.ubuntu.com
[11:56] <slack7384> kamiro87: after you do that, type in gedit xorg.conf, and it will open up the xorg.conf file
[11:56] <vbgunz> so installing DVD codecs and libdvdcss2 is ok now?
[11:57] <Xorlev> !repositories
[11:57] <ubotu> somebody said repositories was at at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[11:57] <Seveas> vbgunz, no
[11:57] <vbgunz> oh
[11:57] <Seveas> that wasn't a backport
[11:57] <Seveas> but part of hoary-extras
[11:57] <kamiro87> i trued sudo cd /etc/X11. i get sudo: cd: command not found
[11:57] <vbgunz> ahh... I still have to learn... just I am knucklehead and trying first to get Ubuntu to do my bidding...
[11:58] <Seveas> kamiro87, sudo cd is useles..
[11:58] <vbgunz> before trying to learn the bit more advanced concepts and techniques
[11:58] <slack7384> kamiro87: can you go into su, and then cd to /etc/X11?
[11:58] <Seveas> slack7384, ubuntu does not use su
[11:58] <kamiro87> no such file
[11:58] <vbgunz> does anyone know how to right-click a folder in the left side tree of Nautilus and get a command prompt menu option?
[11:59] <Seveas> vbgunz, you need a little nautilus script for that
[11:59] <tristanmike> Seveas, Ubuntu is pretty unique in a lot of ways eh?
[11:59] <Seveas> tristanmike, unique in goodness :)
[11:59] <kemik> tristanmike:  in alot of good ways ;)
[11:59] <vbgunz> oh I think I found it...
[11:59] <tristanmike> :)
[11:59] <marga_> Hi!  I have a friend that doesn't have broadband access, and I'd like to burn a dvd for him with all the ubuntu repositories...  Is there an easy way of doing that?
[11:59] <kamiro87> sorry for the trouble
[12:00] <Seveas> tristanmike, to me Ubuntu is the ideal mix of stability, recent packages, good support and a fabulous community