[00:00] <CartoonCat> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[00:00] <moderndayzero> ty
[00:00] <CartoonCat> read it saintly
[00:00] <James147> moderndayzero: kdenlive (video editing program) can also record the desktop
[00:01] <saintly> Activating Proprietary Driver....
[00:01] <saintly> downloading and installing... 12%
[00:01] <CartoonCat> b43 doesnt support it, so its ndis land, which is bad bad mojo
[00:01] <saintly> will this work? lets find out.
[00:02] <saintly> B43
[00:02] <saintly> ttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx shows how to install 43xx drivers. which is what mine is.
[00:02] <ryrych_mobile> hi again! this time from mobile
[00:02] <saintly> lol hey ry
[00:03] <benkay86> saintly: And hopefully it will work. Please let us know once you've finished installing.
[00:03] <saintly> will do benkay86
[00:03] <CartoonCat> mmm wth, aptitude will not open a menu, and capslock will not turn on
[00:03] <benkay86> CartoonCat: You are having quite the upgrade experience!
[00:03] <ryrych_mobile> benkey86: it seems you were right!
[00:04] <CartoonCat> benkay86: yes this is even more fun then gentoo + ati drivers!!
[00:04] <saintly> ahhh upgrading is hell on PC
[00:04] <ryrych_mobile> benkey86: you're good at these stuff
[00:04] <benkay86> ryrych: In that case, reverting to the kernel used in 9.10 (which worked for you, right?) might help. More likely, some new utility in 10.04 is doing something different that's causing the crash and reverting just the kernel won't help.
[00:05] <saintly> External drive has windows 7 vista XP, kubuntu, ubuntu, and snow leapard on it now. :D
[00:05] <benkay86> In the end, my friend ended up getting an Intel minipci card from EBay for $5.
[00:05] <ryrych_mobile> benkey86 yup that kernel was ok
[00:05] <benkay86> saintly: Impressive. So -- does that mean you got your wifi working?
[00:06] <saintly> contains Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driverfor use with Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, andBCM4322-based hardware.
[00:06] <saintly> no but this does
[00:06] <saintly> finished downloading, let me find out
[00:07] <ryrych_mobile> benkey86 could you tell me what was latest kernel for 9.10?
[00:08] <benkay86> ryrych_mobile: Looking at packages.ubuntu.com...
[00:08] <CartoonCat> ok so now im getting E subprocess usr/bin/dpkg returned and error code (1)
[00:08] <ScorpKing> ryrych_mobile: <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:08] <CartoonCat> when doing apt-get upgrade -f
[00:08] <benkay86> ryrych_mobule: It was 2.6.31
[00:08] <CartoonCat> as there is some dependancey error for libanyevent
[00:09] <ryrych_mobile> benkey86 and drop in to south Poland on beer :D
[00:09] <saintly> benkay86: yep im on wifi now.  system> hardware drivers is the solution
[00:09] <benkay86> ryrych_mobile: Resist the urge to install it from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ because those packages don't contain staging drivers.
[00:10] <benkay86> saintly: Congrats. I would caution that your wifi setup is probably not going to be as stable as it could be if you had a fully-supported card... but hey, whatever works, right?
[00:10] <James147> anyone know how to run apt-get or aptitude from a cron job? http://paste.ubuntu.com/426118/  < when it tryes to run "apt-get -q dist-upgrade"
[00:10] <saintly> lol right
[00:10] <benkay86> James147: crontab -e as root? I've never actually tried.
[00:11] <James147> benkay86: thats what i did, but when it runs it give me the output posted above
[00:11] <ryrych_mobile> benkey86 so i cant do it with apt-get?
[00:11] <benkay86> James147: Did you "sudo crontab -e" or "sudo su" followed by "crontab -e"?
[00:11] <James147> benkay86: proballt sudo
[00:11] <benkay86> ryrych_mobile: No, that probably won't work.
[00:11] <James147> benkay86: proballt sudo crontab..
[00:11] <saintly> benkay86: i notice it takes longer to connect and "activate" but i guess well see how we are for speed here in a minute
[00:12] <benkay86> James147: That may have just edited your user's crontab as superuser, which is obviously not what you wanted to happen.
[00:12] <James147> benkay86: possibally :S
[00:12] <saintly> "2wire578"active WOOT
[00:13] <James147> benkay86: nop, my crontab is empty and roots has the commands in
[00:13] <cjae> How do I make my gtk apps not be black, I have a dark them installed but cannot use them effectively with the dark theme applied to them
[00:13] <benkay86> ryrych_mobile: You'll likely have to download the debs from http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/linux-image and install them manually with dpkg. Don't forget to to the same for kernel headers if you think you're going to need them.
[00:15] <benkay86> James147: debconf is complaining that it's not running in an interactive terminal (duh). That's probably not why it's failing, though.
[00:16] <James147> benkay86: figured that not sure how to run it in an active terminal or tell it not ro
[00:16] <benkay86> ryrych_mobile: And it looks like cron isn't setting a proper path, either.
[00:16] <ryrych_mobile> benkay86 thx so im gonna to try your advice out :)
[00:16] <benkay86> ^James147
[00:16] <saintly_> booted by a slow network. ouch.
[00:16] <benkay86> James147: Actually, on my 10.04 server, it tells me if there are packages to update on login without me ever having to run apt-get update.
[00:17] <saintly_> alright themes locations?
[00:17] <benkay86> James147: Maybe there's a way to make update-manager-core do what you want?
[00:17] <James147> benkay86: yeah, but i wanted it to auto update them every week so i dont ahve to :)
[00:17] <saintly_> themes..
[00:18] <benkay86> saintly: Does this have what you're looking for? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[00:20] <James147> benkay86: seem to have updat-manager-core installed but dont see it in my path, you know that exec it installs?
[00:20] <benkay86> James147: dpkg -L update-manager-core
[00:21] <James147> benkay86: O-o
[00:21] <benkay86> James147: I'm not well versed in emoticons. Does that mean you found the exec or you didn't?
[00:22] <James147> benkay86: (shocked) it lists alot of stuff :S bah google search will be quicker
[00:22] <benkay86> James147: dpkg -L update-manager-core | grep bin
[00:23] <James147> benkay86: hmm http://www.builderau.com.au/program/linux/soa/Automatically-update-your-Ubuntu-system-with-cron-apt/0,339028299,339279542,00.htm  suggests that apt-get can do it
[00:25] <benkay86> James147: 1) Did you follow their directions *exactly*? 2) What about the cron-apt they mention?
[00:26] <James147> benkay86: i dident follow te instructions at all, i did it my self, but now im going to trysomething see if it works
[00:26] <benkay86> James147: Oh. Well, good luck.
[00:28] <phy_nit> hi all
[00:28] <phy_nit> need help
[00:28] <phy_nit> ?????
[00:28] <James147> !help | phy_nit
[00:29] <phy_nit> i am not able to connect by wireless....
[00:30] <DarthFrog> Greetings
[00:30] <SaintlySacrfice> Hi ppl
[00:30] <DarthFrog> Does Kubuntu Lucid have a "Me Menu"?
[00:31] <ryrych_mobile> no
[00:31] <SaintlySacrfice> I need help with my flash player
[00:31] <saintly> anyone know how to reach themes on 10.04?
[00:32] <James147> saintly: which themes?
[00:32] <saintly> james147: like what was in appearance, in 9.10
[00:33] <saintly> i had tagedy.
[00:33] <saintly> tragedy*
[00:33] <ScorpKing> what key is redo in vi?
[00:33] <SaintlySacrfice> Firefox won't let me install flash, is there a torent for it?
[00:33] <ScorpKing> ah nvm
[00:34] <James147> saintly: plasma(workspace) themes then? System settings > appearnce > style > workspace
[00:34] <saintly> alright ty james147
[00:34] <saintly> SaintlySacrfice, if you figure out ur flash issue let me know
[00:34] <saintly> same issue here
[00:34] <DarthFrog> saintly: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[00:35] <SaintlySacrfice> Ty
[00:35] <saintly> wel that waas quick
[00:36] <elazeta> hi hi
[00:37] <ryrych> :)
[00:38] <ryrych> benkay86: just installed this kernel :)
[00:43] <ryrych> benkey86: are you there?
[00:44] <saintly> lol
[00:44] <ryrych> hm, it seems linux-image-2.6.31-20-generic_2.6.31-20.58 didn't help :(
[00:45] <saintly> ouch
[00:45] <James147> benkay86: if you care at all looks like ubuntu can already do it by editing /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades (https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/automatic-updates.html)
[00:46] <saintly> nice themes
[00:48] <saintly> alright well im outta here for a bit, gonna try to figure out my sound alone lol
[00:49] <ryrych> where can I take a look at the channel history?
[00:50] <ryrych> hm, even though I installed older kernel version the newer is in use :(
[00:51] <ryrych> how can I switch between kernels?
[00:51] <DarthFrog> ryrych: When booting.  Choose which kernel from the GRUB menu
[00:52] <ryrych> DarthFrog: ok, so I must to set delay in grup
[00:52] <ryrych> *grub
[00:57] <killer_> hl a todos bn bn
[00:58] <killer_> soy nuevo me pueden dar una mano ...
[00:58] <progre55> hi guys, I've added a panel.. but how do you change its width? I mean, not length, but width..
[00:59] <DarthFrog> progre55: Click on the cashew on the right.  Use the sliders.
[00:59] <DarthFrog> Oh, not the width.  You mean height. :-)
[00:59] <James147> progre55: panel settings for witdh drag the arrows, for hiehgt drag the "height" button
[00:59] <DarthFrog> There's an option there to change the panel height.
[00:59] <Joelito> hi all, does in kubuntu have a plugin for embeded content in firefox (for the kde environment) ?
[01:00] <progre55> DarthFrog, James147: thanks guys, let me try )
[01:01] <killer_> alguien habla español
[01:02] <Joelito> killer_ #kubuntu-es
[01:02] <James147> !es | killer_
[01:03] <killer_> gracias viejo
[01:11] <plush> is there a particular recommended package for media playback in firefox?
[01:11] <Joelito> plush, hehe, I just asked the same
[01:11] <Joelito> :p
[01:11] <plush> lol
[01:11] <Joelito> seems that gecko-mediaplayer or mplayer-plugin are out of lucid :\
[01:12] <plush> i got a lot of stuff sorted out... this is still on my to do list
[01:13] <plush> kmplayer is for konqueror only...
[01:14] <Joelito> doesn't open them in kmplayer UI?
[01:14] <plush> might
[01:14] <plush> but i want something embedded
[01:16] <Joelito> me too :(
[01:16]  * plush is getting very confused
[01:16] <plush> i am installing on two machines at once
[01:16] <plush> both have german keyboards
[01:16] <plush> one is set to english though, making me go mad with the weird layout
[01:17] <plush> also, one has kubuntu installed in dutch, the other in german :)
[01:20] <Joelito> lolz
[01:20] <Joelito> I think we might to compile mplayer-plugin our selves :X
[01:21] <plush> kinda goes against my idea of installing an LTS and never looking back for three years
[01:22] <Joelito> yeah :(
[01:26] <plush> oh, i managed to set up passwordless accounts. very nice. very tricky to get it working as well. pain.
[01:28] <Joelito> guessed user?
[01:28] <plush> Joelito: ?
[01:28] <Joelito> you know, guest used
[01:28] <plush> ah, no
[01:28] <plush> no, i set up the proper users to have no password
[01:29] <plush> they'd find it a pain to have to use one
[01:31] <valdiyen> How'd you manage to set that up?  Just set the passwords blank via a commandline passwd call for the users?
[01:31] <plush> it won't allow it
[01:31] <plush> you need passwd -d, run as root
[01:31] <plush> but that will kill sudo
[01:31] <plush> so you need to work around it as well
[01:31] <avihay> um, nepomuk decided that it wants 400MB of my ram. what do I do?
[01:32] <plush> i can tell you, i am glad i only have to do this once every three years. if i had to run kubuntu as my everyday os, i'd run screaming
[01:32] <valdiyen>  I actually don't find it that bad.  I agree that it lacks a lot in the configuration area, but it meets my needs as a developer rather well.
[01:33] <foobaz> hi, i'm in the middle of upgrading 9.10->10.4 and my pc stopped responding to mouse/keyboard, although it's not frozen, i need to click to finish the installation, can anyone help?
[01:33] <valdiyen> I would not however install it for my father.  He gets Ubuntu as it is just more polished
[01:33] <foobaz> i tried plugging in a second usb mouse but that won't move the cursor either
[01:33] <sancho21> Lucid on my notebook (BenQ S35) cannot handle brightness (Fn + F4). How to fix this?
[01:34] <plush> valdiyen: i use arch linux for development work
[01:34] <plush> i find it a lot nicer. also, they don't mess with kde. it's stock vanilla kde. no more, no less
[01:35] <valdiyen> plush: I've contemplated it but haven't tried it yet.  I'll have to fire it up in a VM soon
[01:36] <plush> valdiyen: you won't regret it
[01:36] <plush> hmm... now, how do i play a dvd?
[01:36] <plush> seemingly simple...
[01:37] <valdiyen> Have to either purchase that dvd player on Ubuntu's store or install that dvd package from medibuntu
[01:37] <houdini_> Hello, I have discovered quite a big problem in the 10.04 release. It appears to be related to Nvidia graphics. Any help on what I should do next?
[01:39] <plush> valdiyen: i have the libdvdcss library. the problem is finding a frontent. dragonplayer seems broken. kmplayer doesn't do dvd. trying kaffeine now
[01:39] <plush> houdini_: the boot-up screen looking ugly?
[01:39] <valdiyen> plush: vlc is the best in my experience
[01:39] <plush> known problem, will be fixed soon
[01:39] <plush> for now, sit back and relaxed
[01:39] <plush> -d
[01:40] <plush> valdiyen: yes, people swear by it. never tried it myself
[01:40] <houdini_> plush : Yes, the desktop as well. There seems to be a large and stationary artifact at the top left of my screen.
[01:40] <valdiyen> plush: I actually had a movie that Win 7's media player refused to play and I hit the same issues as you until I installed vlc.  it works really well for DVD playback
[01:41] <houdini_> plush : It periodically displays text and icons as window panes pass over it. Very strange. I have used the same hardware from Hardy untill now and have experience no problems other than this.
[01:41] <Typos_King>  ...
[01:42] <plush> houdini_: as far as i know the known bug affects bootup only
[01:42] <plush> i have it on my own machine. but i know a fix is being tested
[01:42] <plush> your problem sounds more serious
[01:42] <Typos_King> valdiyen:    many players can play dvds just fine, including windows media player, once 'the codecs for playback are installed', vlc installation I think includes, thus, there's nothing special about it others don't have though
[01:43] <Typos_King> as far as windows, I don't think they include dvd codecs by regular installation
[01:43] <plush> lol kaffeine works
[01:43] <houdini_> plush : I am aware of that. This seems to be more intrusive. As well some of the icons are incorrectly displayed. There is quite a bit of distortion.
[01:43] <plush> what i got was the dvd's intro blaring out at full volume how pirate copies are an evil thing
[01:43] <valdiyen> It was able to play other DVD's just fine.  Just didn't seem to like this one in particular
[01:44] <valdiyen> The issue with mplayer and dragonplayer were they just didn't handle the dvd rendering very well.  VLC was usable
[01:44] <Typos_King> ..
[01:45] <Typos_King> well
[01:45] <Typos_King> I use .. xine-ui and works peachy
[01:45] <valdiyen> I didn't try xine, it's good to hear that one does well too
[01:50] <houdini_> Well. It seems that I am experiencing text distortion as well.... I was so optimistic for this release.....
[01:50] <plush> valdiyen: kaffeine uses xine as its backend
[01:50] <valdiyen> plush: yeah, i didn't try that player either
[01:51] <plush> valdiyen: this is why i am not jumping onto the vlc bandwagon. i use kaffeine on my own box
[01:51] <valdiyen> plush: i tried dragonplayer, kmplayer, and then vlc which worked well so I stopped there
[01:53] <melanie>  Bonjour j'ai un portable Dell Latitude D600 ,Quel version de linux je devrais utiliser?
[01:53] <plush> valdiyen: same here... just a different order ^^
[01:55] <pily> What is the differece between Ubuntu 10.04 and Kubuntu 10.04
[01:56] <foobaz> ubuntu defaults to gnome, kubuntu to kde
[01:57] <pily> which one is better ,I  do not know about this
[01:58] <foobaz> i prefer kubuntu, but then that's why i'm in here in the first place
[01:58] <pily> Using it is for know what is Linux
[01:59] <pily> In fact I think Kubuntu is more beautiful
[01:59] <plush> yay! working embedded media player in firefox
[01:59] <plush> not muhc left to set up
[01:59] <pily> The speed of dist-grade is so slow
[02:00] <pily> i have been cost 2hours
[02:00] <foobaz> you don't have to sit there and watch the progress bar :)
[02:01] <pily> Yes ,I like Kubuntu too  ,But Today I found here   Oh amazing
[02:01] <pily> I like here
[02:02] <pily> yes   I need not to sit here to watch the bar ,but i wanna do other things  after the operation
[02:03] <pily> why I input Japanese , it will be covered by space
[02:07] <benkay86> pilly: Are you having trouble with Japanese input?
[02:08] <pily> yes I am headach on Japanese input
[02:08] <benkay86> pilly: Well, I solved that headache yesterday, so I think I can help.
[02:08] <benkay86> pilly: FYI, scim has been deprecated in favor of ibus.
[02:09] <pily> thank U very much
[02:09] <benkay86> pilly: Start with "sudo apt-get install ibus-anthy && im-switch -s ibus", after which you must logout and then log back in.
[02:09] <pily> U mean I should use Scim not ibus
[02:10] <benkay86> pily: As far as I know scim still works, but ibus is not the preferred application. Both support the anthy input module.
[02:10] <pily> yes  In fact I hava install it  and it can work but not work well
[02:10] <benkay86> pily: Which have you installed? scim or ibus?
[02:11] <pily> For example ,when i input someting ,i input the Enter to choose the thing .The charactors will be covered by space
[02:12] <pily> ibus
[02:12] <pily> I install the chinese package and also the japanese package
[02:12] <benkay86> pily: OK, ibus. I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "covered by a space". Could you, perchance, provide a screenshot?
[02:14] <kaitos> does anyone know how to get compositing back after an upgrade to lucid? it worked in karmic
[02:14] <pily> Maybe I hava no idea how to provide you a screenshot
[02:14] <pily> I try it
[02:14] <benkay86> imagebin.ca
[02:14] <benkay86> ksnapshot
[02:16] <pily> yes  I know how to get the picture ,I mean it do not know how to send to U
[02:16] <benkay86> Just upload it to imagebin.ca
[02:17] <pily> OK  i do a try
[02:20] <pily> I am sorry and thankful your kindness .In my pc ,no imaginebin.cn
[02:21] <benkay86> pily: Like this: http://imagebin.ca/view/9t8ilz.html
[02:22] <benkay86> Although it would probably help if I spelled 世界 correctly.
[02:23] <pily> yes wait a moment
[02:23] <pily> thank Y
[02:27] <jjb> exit
[02:37] <amr> hello
[02:37] <plush> anyone got an idea how to put icons on the desktop?
[02:37] <amr> i know
[02:38] <amr> what are you using?
[02:38] <plush> kubuntu 10.04
[02:39] <amr> ok
[02:39] <amr> you mean put icon form k menu
[02:39] <plush> doesn't matter. i can drag them from there or create new ones... i just need to know how to tell the desktop i want this to happen
[02:40] <plush> right now, it's just empty
[02:40] <amr> mmm you want desktop plazma
[02:40] <amr> ok
[02:40] <amr> first
[02:41] <amr> unlock the widget
[02:41] <plush> i have plasma running of course - it is drawing the desktop
[02:41] <plush> but between the million widgets available, none seems to fit :)
[02:41] <amr> ok
[02:41] <amr> i didnt mean your question
[02:41] <amr> what exatly do you want
[02:43] <plush> basically, setting up a computer for my parents
[02:43] <plush> i neeed firefox, skype, openoffice.org, google earth on the desktop
[02:43] <plush> it seems that right-clicking them in the start menu lets me do that
[02:44] <plush> if the icons persist across reboots, that is all i want
[02:44] <plush> my dad will be giving out that it's only 98% like XP anyway :)
[02:45] <plush> ah damn, the icons disappeared from the start menu
[02:45] <plush> what kind of braindead option is that?
[02:47] <amr> how disappeared
[02:47] <amr> havent seen him
[02:47] <amr> them
[02:50] <plush> what happened for me is this:
[02:50] <plush> i right-clicked on "firefox web browser" in the start menu and added it to the desktop
[02:50] <plush> this seems to have made a link
[02:50] <plush> icon in both places
[02:50] <plush> now, i right-clicked the desktop one and renamed it to just "firefox"
[02:50] <plush> that broke the icon in the desktop one
[02:51] <plush> *and* it removed the one in the start menu
[02:51] <plush> same for every other app i tried
[02:51] <amr> listen
[02:51] <amr> i'll tell method better form this
[02:52] <amr> look
[02:52] <amr> first unlock widget
[02:52] <amr> or not doesnt matter
[02:52] <plush> yep, following you along. i have two machines i am setting up here
[02:52] <amr> ok
[02:53] <zus> does anyone have the menu icon stick to the cusor  after clicking applications? the help sticks as i move up to my choices has been pre 10,4
[02:54] <progre55> btw guys, I havent been able to find a "shutdown" button so far.. there is a leave button, but how do you power off? just by hibernating or suspending??
[02:54] <amr> add widget his name is konqueror profile
[02:54] <amr> add to your desktop
[02:54] <amr> and tell me
[02:54] <amr> when you finish
[02:55] <benkay86> progre55: There should be a "Shutdown" option displayed when you click on "Leave".
[02:55] <zus> progre55,  when i go to my menu and click leave i see a shutdown button, what are discussing? if i may interject :)
[02:55] <plush> amr: that created an ugly white box with an even uglier dark border around it
[02:55] <amr> right
[02:56] <amr> that i want
[02:56] <amr> open file management
[02:56] <plush> dolphin you mean?
[02:56] <plush> yep, got it running
[02:56] <progre55> benkay86, zus: well, I dont have one.. the options I have are "logout", "lock", "switch user", "suspend", "hibernate"..
[02:56] <plush> (this is a tiny netbook - two programs side by side is the maximum :)
[02:56] <amr> with konqueror
[02:56] <amr> right
[02:57] <benkay86> progre55: Perhaps the "Shutdown" option is falling off of your netbook screen. What happens if you simply press the power button on your laptop?
[02:57] <progre55> benkay86, zus: maybe it's because I have installed kubuntu-desktop over ubuntu? I mean, I can choose whether I want to log into gnome or kde on logon
[02:58] <benkay86> zus: Only when I inadvertantly fail to let up on the left mouse button.
[02:59] <zus> yeah i go too fast sometimes....
[03:00] <zus> can i lock the menu to prevent that? also i cant find where i can arrange the  menu by program name not what they are
[03:00] <benkay86> zus: I'm not aware of such an option in the menu, but it could always be hidden away somewhere...
[03:00] <zus> firefox should be up to not as web browser to the bottom
[03:00] <Se7en> I need some help is this the place for that
[03:01] <zus> i had it in 9.10
[03:01] <zus> with kde4.4.2
[03:01] <melanie> hi
[03:01] <progre55> benkay86: haha, nice joke :D
[03:01] <melanie> what the best linux os for a laptop?
[03:01] <zus> Found it!
[03:01] <progre55> benkay86: when I pushed the power button, it immediately turned my laptop off
[03:02] <benkay86> zus: Out of curiosity, where was it.
[03:02] <progre55> benkay86: why doesnt it even ask what to do? )
[03:02] <benkay86> progre55: You weren't supposed to hold down the power button! Usually, pressing it would display a logout dialog with a shutdown button.
[03:02] <progre55> benkay86: I didnt hold it!
[03:02] <zus> right click on the k icon
[03:02] <zus> !best | melanie
[03:03] <progre55> benkay86: I have used the power button before, and I know what happens when you push it just once, and what happens when you hold it for 5 secs )
[03:03] <Se7en> melanie: my suggestion : Mint KDE CE
[03:03] <progre55> benkay86: but not in kde apparently..
[03:03] <zus> melanie,  well maybe not. i personally went to diferent sites and read thier pages till i picked one
[03:03] <progre55> well then as I said, maybe because I have installed kde over gnome, I simply dont have the shutdown button..
[03:03] <benkay86> progre55: Perhaps not in the netbook remix, but I can assure you it works for me (just tried it).
[03:04] <progre55> cause I can choose whether I want to log into gnome or kde on logon
[03:04] <progre55> benkay86: what do you mean netbook? I have a desktop edition, on my laptop
[03:04] <zus> Se7en,  did you also want to know where the "show applications by name" is?
[03:05] <melanie> what the major difference for ubuntu and kubuntu
[03:05] <melanie> ?
[03:06] <benkay86> melanie: One is based on the Gnome desktop, and one is based on the KDE desktop. Other than that, they share the same core software.
[03:06] <progre55> melanie: kubuntu's design is much better than ubuntu, but ubuntu is much faster than kubuntu =)
[03:06] <melanie> faster foe what?
[03:06] <Se7en> zus sorry what ?!
[03:06] <progre55> melanie: faster, because all those applets and widgets slow kubuntu down a bit.. my personal opinion
[03:07] <melanie> k thank
[03:07] <melanie> for a laptop ubuntu is the best?
[03:07] <zus> melanie,  it has been my personal expierance that Ubuntu is much more simpler of a layout. where as Kubuntu has more options and choices,
[03:08] <progre55> melanie: well, depends on what you'll be doing with your laptop )
[03:08] <zus> Se7en, to make the menu appear by name not by application "firefox" instead of "web browser"
[03:08] <progre55> melanie: if you want to show it off to your friends, then kde is much better and cuter ))
[03:09] <Se7en> zus I think you're mistaken me for someone else
[03:09] <_abhishek> I am getting this http://paste.ubuntu.com/426180/ error on sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[03:10] <melanie> wha tthe new version of kubuntu
[03:10] <progre55> melanie: personally I used to have gnome, and yesterday installed kubuntu-desktop (kde) over it, and now I can choose whether I want to log into kde or gnome on logon
[03:10] <melanie> so you install kubuntu and ubuntu?
[03:10] <progre55> yep )
[03:10] <zus> Se7en, prolly  am sorry then
[03:10] <melanie> good ideas
[03:11] <progre55> melanie: but not dual boot, but combined =)
[03:11] <melanie> how?
[03:11] <progre55> melanie: just install ubuntu, and then open the terminal and say "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[03:11] <zus> melanie,  what  one are you using now?
[03:12] <melanie> and they install where
[03:12] <progre55> melanie: then you will be able to choose between kde and gnome during logon
[03:12] <Se7en> its okay
[03:12] <Se7en> I do have a question though
[03:12] <Se7en> anyone willing to help ?
[03:12] <melanie> wow
[03:12] <progre55> ask
[03:12] <melanie> kubuntu take how many space?
[03:12] <zus> Se7en, if i can help i will try but ask anyways some one  might
[03:12] <progre55> melanie: about 400 Mb extra if you are installing it over ubuntu
[03:13] <progre55> or a bit more..
[03:13] <progre55> not sure, but around that
[03:13] <benkay86> melanie: It sounds like you might be interested in this http://wubi-installer.org/
[03:13] <Se7en> okay
[03:13] <melanie> and you accest to it when you when you right your password?
[03:14] <plush> thanks all who helped. i think i have both of my kubuntu machines set up well now
[03:14] <Se7en> I tried pairing a kubuntu with a nokia 6300 and use that to connect to the internet just like i do in Gnome . but i get a message : " Device doesnt support input "
[03:15] <progre55> melanie: yep, you click on your user, and when it prompts you to enter the password, you can choose kde or gnome on the bottom pane
[03:15] <Se7en> what's wrong
[03:15] <melanie> k thank you so much!
[03:15] <progre55> melanie: luck
[03:15] <zus> Se7en,  i do not know that, thats a bit beyond my scope at this moment...
[03:16] <progre55> melanie: by the way, which one do you have installed right now?
[03:16] <melanie> ubuntu lynx
[03:16] <zus> progre55,  i am currently myself thinking on installing ubuntu-desktop
[03:16] <progre55> melanie: just open the terminal and type "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[03:17] <progre55> zus: not satisfied with kubuntu? )
[03:17] <progre55> zus: I have a 500gb harddrive, so I can afford to have both of them =)
[03:18] <zus> progre55,  i love it i spen 5 months of 9.10 on ubuntu and did  exactly what you said to do sudo apt-get...
[03:18] <progre55> and a couple of external harddisks for movies and all )
[03:18] <_abhishek> I am getting this http://paste.ubuntu.com/426180/ error on sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[03:19] <_abhishek> any idea what's wrong
[03:19] <progre55> zus: well, I was using konversation from kde on my ubuntu, but when I installed it, it downloaded so many kde packages with itself (around 280Mb or smth) then I decided to go further and installed kubuntu-desktop yesterday ))
[03:19] <progre55> zus: and I like it.. other than the "a bit slow sometimes" part, it's really beautiful )
[03:19] <zus> progre55,  very  pretty...
[03:20] <zus> progre55,  personally my favorite colors are green/grey/black/ ( ubuntu mint) then blue...
[03:20] <hyb> hi
[03:21] <ubuntu> should i go for wd my book essential or seagate freeagent desk?
[03:21] <progre55> zus: I would always tell my friends (who are damn windows fans) that ubuntu was better, but they would always show off with the windows7's design =) now I can totally convince them that linux is much better, in performance and design! ))
[03:22] <zus> progre55,  me too....
[03:22] <progre55> zus: any pretty themes you could suggest for kubuntu?
[03:22] <benkay86> ubuntu: If you wondering which to buy based on Linux compatability, I strongly suspect that both will work equally well as USB mass storage devices.
[03:23] <zus> progre55, http://kde-look.org/
[03:23] <hyb> my splash isn't show normally
[03:23] <ubuntu> benkay86: thanks
[03:24] <progre55> zus: yeah I've been there.. but there's too much in there =) any suggestions? )
[03:24] <hyb> someone can help
[03:24] <progre55> hyb: yeah, the same here.. it's really poor quality
[03:24] <zus> progre55,  hmm none in particular i use the default one really
[03:25] <progre55> hyb: I spend half a day, but couldnt fix. that's a bug in plymouth with the proprietary drivers
[03:25] <zus> progre55,  though i am always suffing the net i constantly  take images and use them as a back ground
[03:25] <kubuntu-ku> hi, all . . . what is the command line to upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 ? sudo apt-gate install ... ?
[03:25] <progre55> zus: yeah I've also downloaded a bunch today =)
[03:25] <_abhishek> kubuntu-ku: apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:25] <progre55> kubuntu-ku: do-release-upgrade
[03:26] <progre55> kubuntu-ku: with no apt stuff
[03:26] <hyb> progre55: Ai!this is the only one fault in so pretty 10.04
[03:26] <zus> progre55,  i've yet to do that...but i haven't found anything i truly i so i am looking in to themeing...to make my own.
[03:26] <zus> progre55, only i dont know where to go...
[03:26] <progre55> kubuntu-ku: "sudo do-release-upgrade" I mean =)
[03:27] <progre55> hyb: yeah, kinda sux.. but hopefully they'll fix it soon
[03:27] <progre55> zus: cool, let me know when you have a release =)
[03:27] <kubuntu-ku> ok _abhishek ! I'll try that right away . . . both, i mean . . . progree55 !
[03:28] <zus> progre55,  i have only been using linux since jaunty....well two weeks later karmic came  out but ...here i am.
[03:28] <zus> progre55, i just wanted to  use ubuntu as well to "not miss anything"
[03:28] <progre55> zus: welcome to the linux world =) hope you like it) but I'm sure you are experienced enough already
[03:29] <progre55> zus: but if you are thinking to make your themes already, that's really cool =)
[03:29] <zus> progre55,  im a fast learner but i still think myself as a newbie. plus this community is great when i need help
[03:29] <progre55> yeah, these two channels are awesome for instant help =)
[03:30] <zus> progre55,   only cuz i havent found anything i like and its betteer than a mix and match theme
[03:30] <progre55> but not always.. say when you have a problem with your graphics, or something more than basic, you can only rely on google or forums =)
[03:30] <zus> progre55,  forums as well...
[03:31] <progre55> btw, I dont have my brightness control working on my sony vaio under lucid, and still havent found a fix (
[03:32] <zus> does anyone have any suggestions  on where to learn to theme for kubuntu/ubuntu?
[03:34] <zus> brb...
[03:39] <hyb> quiet
[03:41] <kubuntu-ku> already tried . . . sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > failed
[03:43] <kubuntu-ku> sudo do-release-upgrade ... it worked, but, after some time stopped. Just like when I upgrade from under kde. it says 'could not calculate' , 'restoring original system state' and 'aborting'
[03:43] <kubuntu-ku> any further advice, progre55 ?
[03:44] <progre55> kubuntu-ku: hmm.. dont even know.. I personally did a fresh install )
[03:44] <kubuntu-ku> btw, i tried to upgrade under xterm . . .
[03:50] <progre55> kubuntu-ku: did you try asking the #ubuntu guys?
[03:50] <saintly> theres official nothing wrong with my Kubuntu 10.04, all my issues are solved :D anyone need help?
[03:56] <moderndayzero> any good screen recorders i tried kdenlive but i dont see a record option for it
[03:56] <hyb> saintly: i so
[03:56] <saintly> hyb: hmm?
[03:57] <hyb> saintly: my kubuntu splash isn't show normally
[03:57] <saintly> hyb: Could you explain more? what happens?
[03:59] <viking667> 'llo all. Got a old low-spec machine, and I'm trying to find out how to turn off certain things like wpa-supplicant, and bluetooth. What do I need to look at?
[03:59] <saintly> viking667: what OS are you currentlyrunning?
[04:00] <kumar> hi.
[04:00] <saintly> kumar: hello
[04:00] <calumayoo> have some problem with wines
[04:00] <kumar> i downloaded Kubuntu i386 DVD
[04:00] <calumayoo> *wine
[04:00] <hyb> saintly: after kdm,the kubuntu logo picture isn't show normally,maybe need more pixes
[04:00] <kumar> a few mins back.
[04:00] <calumayoo> cant explore the C:\
[04:01] <kumar> When I try to use the live DVD on my desktop, its not starting X
[04:01] <sobczyk> hi, are there any additional repos for audio drivers for the new lucid? I can't get the sound to work
[04:01] <calumayoo> !wine
[04:01] <saintly> hyb: you might find help in system settings.
[04:01] <hyb> saintly: where i can find?
[04:02] <sobczyk> The card/codec is reported fine but no sound comes out of the speakers/headphones (dell studio 14)
[04:02] <saintly> sobczyk: i can help ya there. lol
[04:02] <saintly> hyb: hit alt+f2, and type in system settings
[04:02] <viking667> I'm setting up a Lucid for wife.
[04:02] <kubuntu-ku> progre55 ... ok, i'll try there . . .
[04:02] <saintly> Sobcyzk: what card do you have?
[04:03] <kumar> Live DVD dosen't work. Starts with a console and X doesn't start (Lucid). any idea why this happens on a old Pentium 4 Desktop?
[04:03] <saintly> viking667: mmhm and your computer, what kind?
[04:04] <hyb> saintly: no,it can change thar
[04:04] <hyb> saintly: no,it can change that
[04:04] <saintly> kumar: did you use a live DVD
[04:04] <kumar> Yes.
[04:04] <viking667> 600MHz P3, 384Mb memory.
[04:04] <kumar> Lucid Live DVD
[04:04] <viking667> ... with no options to upgrade.
[04:04] <kumar> i386
[04:05] <sobczyk> saintly: intel hda with realtek codec though I can't find the exact codec number
[04:06] <melanie> what the commandline to have the french version of kubuntu?
[04:06] <viking667> I would have personally gone for Xubuntu, but there's this really nice accuweather applet she likes.
[04:06] <saintly> Viking667: and your looking for a good Kubuntu for that?
[04:06] <viking667> saintly: no, I'm looking to see what stuff I can (1) turn off (and how) and (2) remove altogether.
[04:06] <saintly> sobzyk: believe it or not we have the same sound card, mie works great.
[04:07] <melanie> what the commandline to have the french version of kubuntu? i have kubuntu allready.
[04:07] <viking667> I'm having remarkably little luck finding how to turn off bluetooth. I simply don't need it, as I only have the phone that's BT'd and not the computer.
[04:07] <saintly> remove altogether is simple viking667, what do you want removed?
[04:07] <viking667> I also want to turn off wpa-supplicant, remove it altogether.
[04:07] <saintly> sobzyk | !sound
[04:07] <viking667> well, bluetooth is easy, i think that's bluez, isn't it?
[04:07] <saintly> ahh where ubottu
[04:08] <saintly> alright one sec
[04:08] <sobczyk> melanie: go to system settings, then language/country settings, you can set up your language there
[04:08] <saintly> viking667: alt+f2, then type in Bluetooth, that ll get you bluetooth settings
[04:09] <saintly> !sound
[04:09] <viking667> right. I want to remove it altogether.
[04:09] <saintly> Sobzyk: use the trouble shooting one, took me 15 minutes
[04:09] <saintly> removing it all together...
[04:09] <melanie> thank
[04:10] <saintly> Viking667: sudo aptitude-get uninstall bluetooth. see if that works
[04:10] <viking667> I'll try that.
[04:10] <viking667> thank you.
[04:10] <saintly> let me know what happens ;)
[04:10] <viking667> now how to shoot/remove/kill/erase wpa-supplicant
[04:10] <saintly> LOL
[04:11] <saintly> id say same format, try and use console.
[04:11] <saintly> srry Konsole*
[04:11] <calumayoo> hello... i cant open C:\ in wine
[04:11] <calumayoo> help
[04:11] <saintly> !wine
[04:11] <progre55> hey guys, I have 4 desktops, and set them as "different activity for each desktop" and changed backgrounds for each of them. And now my first desktop is a bit fcked up =) I mean, it's not a whole desktop, but somewhere in the middle of the four desktops. any suggestions?
[04:12] <saintly> progre55: ive been there before. what you want to do is revert back to one desktop, and start over again.
[04:12] <progre55> saintly: oh okay, thanks
[04:12] <saintly> progre55: do you know how to do that?
[04:13] <saintly> calamayoo: did that help any?
[04:13] <progre55> saintly: well, untick the "different activities" stuff, I guess )
[04:13] <progre55> saintly: yeah, now it seems to be okay..
[04:13] <saintly> progre55: yes thatll work. :D
[04:13] <saintly> if you get stuck again come talk to me.
[04:14] <progre55> saintly: thanks man, appreciate =)
[04:14] <saintly> proge55: anytime.
[04:15] <saintly> anyone need anything, any help?
[04:15] <saintly> i feel wrong, theres nothing left to do on my kubuntu
[04:15] <progre55> well, I'm off to bed now, 5.15 am here =)
[04:16] <saintly> proge55: ouch. lol
[04:16] <progre55> saintly: well, you could suggest me some cool widgets or themes )
[04:16] <zus> progre55,  good night it was nice chatting with you
[04:16] <progre55> zus: thanks man, the same here. talk to you later
[04:17] <saintly> progre55: im using weather, and the analog clock. as far as themes, i like darker ones. i went with Tragedy, and theres several window color schems that fit nicely with it.
[04:17] <progre55> hey guys, any good movies to download? )
[04:17] <saintly> progre55: stream movies at www.davidmovie.com
[04:18] <progre55> saintly: I've also tried tragedy. what is the best color scheme that goes with it?
[04:18] <morgajel> hey guys, hows it going?
[04:18] <morgajel> many issues with lucid yet?
[04:18] <saintly> progre55: let me see what im using
[04:18] <progre55> saintly: oh and I dont want stream movies =) I download torrents.. at least dvd quality ..
[04:18] <saintly> morgajel: my lucid is perfect ;)
[04:18] <morgajel> saintly: fresh install or upgrade?
[04:19] <progre55> morgajel: yeah, the brightness control on my sony vaio not working (
[04:19] <morgajel> my upgrade puked :/
[04:19] <saintly> morgajel: both
[04:19] <morgajel> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'util-linux'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[04:20] <saintly> progre55: lol odly enough the color scheme for tragedy would appear to be titled "tragedy black"
[04:20] <saintly> :D
[04:20] <cjae> anyone know how to password protect kontact?
[04:21] <progre55> saintly: haha
[04:21] <hyb> .h
[04:21] <saintly> cjae: theres a program for it, i think briefcase something?
[04:21] <saintly> hyb: hmm?
[04:23] <viking667> awww *%@)@%
[04:23] <saintly> viking667: issies?
[04:23] <saintly> issues*
[04:23] <viking667> I can't remove "wpasupplicant" because kde-desktop relies upon it, so does NetworkManager
[04:23] <viking667> Yet I don't have a single wireless network in the house.
[04:23] <zus> does anyone use pidign? whats the plugin Grim, it says a useless plugin  but what is it?
[04:23] <saintly> explain for me what wpa does?
[04:24] <viking667> apparently it handles WPA and WPA2 key encryption.
[04:24] <viking667> ... I think.
[04:24] <saintly> hmm, and it takes up ram?
[04:24] <saintly> thats odd.
[04:24] <viking667> seems to.
[04:24] <viking667> I'll rename it, and restart the machine.. with only 384Mb, I'm trimming where I can.
[04:25] <saintly> you're running on just over 350MB correct?
[04:25] <saintly> oh yes lol
[04:25] <saintly> viking667: what version of Kubuntu are you using?
[04:27] <saintly> 246 second ping timeout whoa. thts damn near 4 min no wonder he didnt talk lol.
[04:27] <saintly> ooh thts over 4 min. basic math ftw lol
[04:28] <saintly> viking667: you still with me?
[04:29] <saintly> anyone need anything?
[04:32] <progre55> well arright, now I'm totally off )
[04:32] <progre55> night people!
[04:32] <saintly> making coffe, brb
[04:38] <ep> I have a AMD athlon X2 dual core, 4 gigs of ram.  You folks recommend the  64 bit edition (10.04)?
[04:39] <viking667> sorry, just got back.
[04:39] <viking667> was folding washing... Lucid Lynx, I think it's called. Just got updated yesterday.
[04:41] <madura> ep: yea
[04:45] <ep> I've got seperate root and home partitions but they're ext3 I want to swithch to ext4 on the fresh install.   Will the install switch for ext3 to ext4 and still let me keep my data in home?
[04:46] <DarthFrog> ep: You can do that.  I did.
[04:47] <progre55> hey guys (damn I'm back). I had a widget (analog clock) and after a logout/login, it's gone.. but on the widgets panel it's marked as being used.. suggestions?
[04:47] <madura> ep you can have ur system in a ext4 partition and link to ur home directory which is in a ext3
[04:47] <DarthFrog> ep: What I mean is you can re-format the / partition as ext4 and keep your /home partition as ext3.  I don't think you can convert ext3 to ext4 _in situ_.
[04:49] <viking667> anyhow, I have to get off this machine, I need a memory stick out of it to see if that works in wife's machine.
[04:54] <ep> i see DarthFrog, I guess i can live with a ext3  /home :(   4 sounds better :)
[04:55] <DarthFrog> ep: ext4 is extent based.  'Tis a wondrous thing.  Can you back up your /home partition to an external drive and re-format?
[04:56] <ep> no external drives unfortunely.   I 'll figure something out.
[04:56] <beliat> moin
[04:57] <KDesk> when I try to eneable the desktop effects from kwin, I get the message "Failed to activate desktop effects". Why is that? Where can I get more info about the error?
[04:58] <ep> google ;)
[04:58] <DarthFrog> KDesk: Check if there's anything useful in /var/log
[04:59] <DarthFrog> KDesk: Also, open a terminal session and run "glxinfo | grep endering".  Ensure that direct rendering is enabled.  If it complains that glxinfo isn't available, install the mesa-utils package.
[05:00] <KDesk> DarthFrog: direct rendering: Yes
[05:00] <KDesk> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 865G GEM 20091221 2009Q4
[05:02] <madura> KDesk: try ticking disable functionality checks
[05:03] <KDesk> DarthFrog: Now I see that Tremulous game screen is very un readable. Odd.
[05:03] <madura> KDesk: i assum that u are running kubuntu
[05:03] <Sylvester_Ink> Hey, it's been a while since I've used Kubuntu and I'm considering moving back.  Has KDE 4.x reached an acceptable state of maturity in the Kubuntu 10.04 implementation?
[05:04] <ep> hmm
[05:07] <KDesk> madura: yes, Kubuntu :) Now I tryed to run with xrender, and Xserver crashed, When i loged in again, xrender was used (slow) and I changed to opengl and then it worked :)
[05:08] <KDesk> Sylvester_Ink: tray the liveCD, if it work ok, then you can install it :)
[05:09] <Sylvester_Ink> Heh, why didn't I think of that . . . :P
[05:10] <madura> KDesk: :D
[05:10] <madura> KDesk: i had the same problem with my ATI binary drivers
[05:10] <madura> i ticked that single option and it all works!
[05:11] <KDesk> madura: I have and old intel 865G. :|
[05:12] <Joelito> guys, what options left to watch embeded videos on firefox? (K/U)buntu failed on this,  this time =(
[05:13] <madura> KDesk: i have a intel G31 with a separate ATI hehe
[05:15] <KDesk> madura: I have normaly no problems with kwin, lets hope it behaves ok.
[05:17] <madura> KDesk: kwin uses opengl so if the drivers are ok with opengl there wont be any trouble
[05:17] <EvaZq> anoyone here have an intel gma 4500m ?
[05:18] <KDesk> madura: but why does it sometimes not start the compositor, and sometimes it does?
[05:18] <KDesk> Joelito: with flash?
[05:19] <Joelito> KDesk, yeah, but in apple, the trailers ask for quicktime :\
[05:19] <madura> KDesk: that functionality check thing and ur xorg.conf should have the compositing extension enabled
[05:20] <KDesk> madura: with the default install I don't have xorg.conf since 9.10 I think
[05:22] <KDesk> Joelito: You can choose the option to download them.
[05:23] <Joelito> KDesk how?
[05:23] <madura> KDesk: there wouldn't be a xorg.conf if u are using open source drivers but the binary drivers tend to configure xorg
[05:24] <KDesk> Joelito: I see in the left-top, a option info, and watch now, bit the watch now has an arrow, where it a menu comes and says to download in different resolutions
[05:25] <Joelito> oh, I was thinking a extension from FF
[05:25] <Joelito> :p
[05:26] <KDesk> madura: With my intel card, only oss drivers are available, and the kwin error occurs.
[05:28] <madura> KDesk: even after u tick that disable functionality check?
[05:29] <KDesk> madura: yes. It crashed the xserver :) But now It works.
[05:29] <madura> KDesk: ok :D it workd
[05:32] <zus> oh,...im not liking this yahoo on fire fox...
[05:32] <zus> its got comcast all over it!!! gross
[05:36] <EvaZq> what is the diference between wubi and a fresh ubuntu installation on a disk partition ???
[05:39] <zus> how can i switch back to google search engine?
[05:40] <Brhad56> upgraded to kubuntu 10.4 and have a question.. whats the + thing that appears when i mouseover icons on the desktop folder?
[05:41] <Sylvester_Ink> EvaZq: Wubi installs ubuntu into a folder on Windows, then sets windows to boot to that folder
[05:42] <Sylvester_Ink> a standard install sets a separate partition for Ubuntu and installs a boot loader (grub) to boot to either windows or ubuntu
[05:42] <pgr> Hola
[05:42] <draik> Brhad56: That's the select it. You don't have to hold down the CTRL key anymore; just click on the +
[05:42] <pgr> Alguien de la PlatA?
[05:42] <zus> Brhad56,  when you click on it and its a minus, you dont see a preview of whats inside the folder
[05:42] <pgr> Argentina
[05:42] <EvaZq> sylvester_ink so it has no grub ?
[05:43] <Sylvester_Ink> wubi does not install grub
[05:43] <Sylvester_Ink> it sets up windows own bootloader to boot to wubi
[05:43] <Brhad56> zus: I don't understand.. i see a preview regaurdless of it showing a plus or minus?
[05:43] <Sylvester_Ink> (the same way you would boot to "Safe Mode" in windows)
[05:43] <draik> Brhad56: It is just for selection
[05:44] <EvaZq> i see
[05:44] <zus> Brhad56,  yes, i tried it when you asked, and  in the minus it didnt show previews for me
[05:45] <zus> Brhad56,  but i just did it and it worked.. so im now in your boat lol sorry for the bad answer
[05:45] <Brhad56> draik: what do you mean, just for selection?
[05:46] <draik> Brhad56: Click on the plus to any folder (files, too) and it will group select them for the same action (copy/move/delete/etc)
[05:46] <Brhad56> draik: Oh, I get it now.  Thanks.
[05:47] <draik> Brhad56: You're welcome.
[05:47] <zus> thanks sweet
[05:49] <zus> a few questions - how do i go back to google search engine
[05:49] <Brhad56> oh sweet.. I see that now I can do the thing where i drag the window all the way to one side, and it does the screen split thing that windows does
[05:49] <zus> Brhad56,  have you right clicked on the maximinxe button instead of left click?
[05:50] <Brhad56> zus: just tried.. not sure what it just did.. got wider?
[05:50] <Brhad56> I can see that being useful
[05:52] <sobczyk> hi, is there an easy way to set up dual screens on kde4 with radeon?
[05:52] <zus> Brhad56,  now middle click the maximize button,
[05:52] <zus> right makes the window wider middle clicks make it verticle
[05:52] <Brhad56> zus: ah.. cool
[05:52] <sobczyk> on ubuntu I just needed to relog, but on kubuntu it does not seem to work
[05:52] <zus> windows snap eat your heart out lol
[05:54] <zus> Brhad56,  i use the window right and middle clicks offten.
[05:54] <madura> sobczyk: use the control center it has xinerama support i think
[05:55] <Brhad56> What widgets do you like to use?
[05:55] <sobczyk> madura: I can set the screen size and position but after applying nothing happens
[05:56] <madura> sobczyk: did u try restarting X?
[05:57] <sobczyk> madura: simple relog will not work?
[05:57] <madura> sobczyk: nope, you should select restart X from kdm then
[05:58] <sobczyk> for gnome it was ok, so restricted drivers does not support turning on the second screen on the fly?
[06:01] <madura> sobczyk: i cant be sure of it i have binary drivers on but dont have dual head
[06:04] <zus> ok yahoo isnt working out for me. how can i go back to google as a search engine?
[06:05] <Brhad56> zus: this a konquer question?
[06:06] <zus> Brhad56,  oh im sorry, no. firefox
[06:12] <kaitos> anyone konw how to fix the ? images in the weather plasmoid? http://i.imgur.com/U0KEo.png
[06:15] <zus> im still confused here. i just read google was not going to be default search engine,..then they changed thier minds?.. yahoo is still my search engine i want to change
[06:15] <sobczyk> ok ati configuration tool + 2 restarts and multihead works
[06:15] <zus> firefox3.6.3
[06:15] <sobczyk> though after installation of radeon driver the kubuntu splash screen is garbled
[06:19] <sobczyk> is there a recommended input method for kde4? (like ibus in gnome)
[06:24] <Barridus> kaitos, try a different widget style and/or change the appearance icon set?
[06:24] <Barridus> i noticed as i was fiddling with both of those, i had ?'s for a while then they went away after one or both changed
[06:25] <Barridus> (i was trying to tweak something else so iwasn't paying attention to that widget directly as i made those changes
[06:28] <kaitos> Barridus: changed to crystal, didn't fix it, its just a different, "not found" kinda icon
[06:28] <Barridus> try the icon set then
[06:29] <Barridus> i'm using buuf deuce icons i downloaded via the "get more icons" button or whatever in that sytem prefs dialog
[06:29] <Barridus> my widget looks fine
[06:31] <viking667> hey ho. What's nepomuk, and why the heck can't I remove it?
[06:32] <DarthFrog> nepomuk is a major part of the so-called semantic desktop and it is deeply rooted in KDE.
[06:33] <Barridus> i think it's a search indexer
[06:34] <madura> viking667: u can remove it
[06:35] <viking667> hmpf.
[06:35] <viking667> so trying to remove it could turn kde on its head... great. Just what I don't need on 384Mb of memory.
[06:38] <zus> can not find a way to change firefox3.6.3 back to Google. it is still yahoo. and worse its "comcast" is up top
[06:39] <Brhad56> i've noticed when i do maximize now, that it doesn't fully maximize anymore
[06:39] <viking667> ... what?
[06:39] <viking667> oh, sorry. I meant "what?" for firefox.
[06:43] <zus> viking667,  when i type in the adress field when google was default search engine. it either found a site or gave the google page with links....now i get the yahoo page with comcast  bar up top...
[06:44] <zus> there is a powerd by yahoo search logo yp there too how can i get google back?
[06:44] <viking667> I'm assuming that you can change the "homepage" and change the toolbars (i.e. uninstalling that toolbar would be a good thing)
[06:44] <viking667> check your extensions
[06:44] <zus> its not a tool bar its part of the page
[06:44] <viking667> hm.
[06:44] <viking667> Can you screenie that for me?
[06:45] <zus> there isnt many extension only my normal 4 when i had in karmic...sure gimme a sec
[06:45] <iconmefisto> zus: you can change default search engine in about:config
[06:46] <viking667> And as I remember it, that search bar on the right hand side can be toggled back to google
[06:46] <viking667> it's been a while since I have run ff. I typically run chrome everywhere now.
[06:46] <DarthFrog> Is Chrome any good?
[06:47] <viking667> I like it. Runs on less resources
[06:47] <zus> the search bar on the side is on google...where is  about : config?
[06:47] <iconmefisto> zus: search for "browser.search" and change "browser.search.defaultenginename" to one of the search engines you have (eg "Google")
[06:47] <viking667> type THAT into the address bar
[06:47] <DarthFrog> zus: about:config is a URL.
[06:47] <DarthFrog> For Firefox, anyway.
[06:47] <DarthFrog> It brings up a configuration editor.
[06:48] <DarthFrog> Be careful. :-)
[06:49] <TheAncientGoat> iconmefisto: It worked! :D
[06:50] <zus> haha i had to click ill be carefull i promise button,... now im  kinda scared hehe
[06:51] <zus> iconmefisto,  well it says google already
[06:51] <DarthFrog> zus: Just don't go changing things on a whim.
[06:52] <iconmefisto> zus: is it exactly the same as is displayed in the firefox search bar? eg "Google" not "google"
[06:52] <zus> iconmefisto,  yes with the "G" not "g""
[06:54] <zus> in fact the only yahoo is in browser.search.order.2 which is where i prefer it to be IF i click on it  on my own wich yet i havent
[06:55] <ForgeAus> is it just me or should we either A) broaden the scope of this channel or B) at the very least rename #kubuntu-offtopic to something more inviting like #kubuntu-community...
[06:56] <Brhad56> i think i figured out my deal.. i added extra pannels..
[06:57] <zus> just close this window to exit? no changes have been made...
[06:58]  * viking667 shrugs
[06:58] <iconmefisto> ForgeAus: I hear what you're saying. maybe #kubuntu-chat instead of #kubuntu-community ?
[06:59] <ForgeAus> iconmefisto: thats kewl...
[06:59] <zus> viking667,  the screen shot you asked for http://imagebin.org/95251
[07:00] <ForgeAus> not that I'm advocating copying, I'm just pointing out that PCLinuxOS has #PCLinuxOS as a general community  channel and a #PCLinuxOS-Support channel which kinda makes more sense to me than how this setup we're using for Kubuntu is...
[07:00] <ForgeAus> anything not Support oriented isn't necessarily off-topic for kubuntu as an operating system...
[07:01] <zus> ForgeAus,  is that on frenode? btw
[07:01] <ForgeAus> zus yeah
[07:05] <zus> iconmefisto,  also this is the screen shot when i type the adress bar what i get http://imagebin.org/95251
[07:07] <iconmefisto> zus: what do you have for keyword.URL in about:config ?
[07:08] <iconmefisto> zus: mine has: http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=
[07:08] <zus> iconmefisto,  http:www.google.com/search?ie=........etc.
[07:10]  * madura is away: Gone away for now
[07:15] <zus> iconmefisto,  i have the same thing... i just double checked
[07:18] <viking667> right. Time I left.
[07:26] <RaGNORAK> hi
[07:27] <RaGNORAK> i have a question will i retain all my settings when upgrading from 9.10 to lucid lynx?
[07:31] <zus> this is frustrating simply typing youtube in 9.10 gave me the site now i got to deal with yoohoo
[07:32] <zus> how do i install chrome?
[07:32] <zus> or is it chromium?
[07:32] <ForgeAus> apt-get install chrome ?
[07:32] <ubuntu> have any of you tried live documents, its an online office suite
[07:32] <ForgeAus> chromium is the devel stuff afaik
[07:32] <ForgeAus> chrome is the release of the browser
[07:32] <iconmefisto> zus: you can install chromium with sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[07:32] <ForgeAus> or maybe go to google...
[07:32] <ubuntu> zus just go to the chrome website, and install it from there
[07:32] <ForgeAus> iconmefisto: ??? but Chrome is released...
[07:33] <ForgeAus> Chromium is only afaik the development version... (underpinnings/engine of Google Chrome)
[07:33] <zus> thanks, this really let me down...tbh
[07:33] <iconmefisto> ForgeAus: chrome is the google-branded version of opensource chromium. chromium is slightly faster than chrome too
[07:34] <ForgeAus> ahh interesting, I didn't know that...
[07:34] <ForgeAus> so chromium isn't from google?
[07:34] <ForgeAus> note: it took google long enough to release Chrome for OSX and Linux way after the Windows release I know that much)
[07:35] <iconmefisto> ForgeAus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_%28web_browser%29
[07:36] <zus> ForgeAus,  its from google, the google pokemon ball icon is blue
[07:38] <ForgeAus> yeah I knew about the icon
[07:39] <ForgeAus> just monochrome-blue vers of Google's Icon basically (or should I say Googles is a colourized vers of Chromium's?
[07:39] <ForgeAus> note: I had an older version of Chromium but it ran from konsole... wasn't so great...
[07:40] <vadi01> is there no way to makea guest account in kubuntu?????
[07:41] <vadi01> ubuntu has this feature but kubuntu no. since 2008???? developers what up?????
[07:42] <vadi01> ForgeAus: iconmefisto: chromium has a bug in kubuntu. the goolgle search engine cant peform searches if i change the search language settings
[07:45] <iconmefisto> vadi01: you could create a guest user, and allow passwordless login
[07:45] <RaGNORAK> i have a question will i retain all my settings when upgrading from 9.10 to lucid lynx?
[07:46] <RaGNORAK> >_> i am new to linux :(
[07:46] <zus> RaGNORAK, i am new as well, but i believe a fresh install would be better than an upgrade
[07:47] <RaGNORAK> why?
[07:47] <RaGNORAK> wouldn't i have to reset all my settings etc?
[07:48] <iconmefisto> RaGNORAK: you should be able to keep all your settings, but it doesn't always work
[07:48] <RaGNORAK> :s
[07:48] <RaGNORAK> crap
[07:49] <RaGNORAK> so should i just backup my whole root?
[07:49] <RaGNORAK> or something?
[07:50] <RaGNORAK> then make a clean install and reset stuff?
[07:50] <iconmefisto> RaGNORAK: there are some config files that are changed during upgrade, and the upgrader will let you see the changes and allow you to accept them or keep your old config file(s)
[07:51] <RaGNORAK> alright
[07:51] <iconmefisto> RaGNORAK: if you have room to make a new partition, you could keep your old install and install lucid side-by-side
[07:51] <RaGNORAK> ill try upgrading first if that fails ill do a clean install
[07:51] <RaGNORAK> nope don't have the space
[07:51] <vadi01> iconmefisto: any links?
[07:51] <muimota> hi here a lucid user, the network stopped working and the networkmanager-plasmoid  shows "Network Management disabled"
[07:52] <muimota> to connect I have to ifconfig wlan0 up and connect by cable
[07:52] <muimota> the strange thing is that it work fine till yesterday noon
[07:53] <iconmefisto> vadi01: links to what?
[07:53] <vadi01> iconmefisto: ok yea i can make that but will it just log the guest into a temp account which deletes data as soon as he logs out (similar to ubuntu)?
[07:54] <iconmefisto> vadi01: I don't know how you would make the data delete itself
[07:58] <zus> iconmefisto,  i would like to remove fire fox comepletely and its configurations i want to try a fresh install of it
[07:58] <zus> i have an idea what may have gone wrong
[07:59] <iconmefisto> zus: try deleting ~/.mozilla (or rename it to .mozilla-backup in case you decide you want it back later) and that will give you a new firefox profile
[08:01] <zus> iconmefisto,  i am using a wireless usb to log on- my brother has a wired connection his girlfirend has a wirless on a laptop. when she logged on i got  pop ups of her ip adress being refused an invite to share my desktop...
[08:08] <zus> iconmefisto,  ok irenamed it closed my windows and reopened fire fox i get the same thing...
[08:11] <madura> zus: do you need to uninstall FF?
[08:12] <zus> madura,  yes please completely remove everything
[08:12] <iconmefisto> zus: you should delete/rename .mozilla folder when firefox is NOT running
[08:13] <madura> goto terminal, type sudo apt-get remove firefox
[08:13] <madura> zus: ^^
[08:13] <madura> and hit enter :P
[08:14] <zus> iconmefisto,  same thing going to remove and try again..
[08:16] <madura> zus did u try it?
[08:16] <zus> doing it now
[08:17] <madura> zus k
[08:19] <zus> hmm well now i dont have the fire fox installer that i originally used to get  3.6.3 how do i re-install that
[08:20] <jrolland-ubuntu> Hi. I tried following http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.2 and it nerfed my GUI; can anyone help
[08:20] <jrolland-ubuntu> ?
[08:20] <iconmefisto> zus: sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:20] <jrolland-ubuntu> Would another time tomorrow afternoon be better?
[08:20] <vadi01> iconmefisto: your advice is not recommended: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Intrepid/GuestAccount
[08:21] <calumayoo> Help. dolphin doesnt run whever i click the file downloaded in the downloads bar in google chrome
[08:21] <power-inside> How big is the kde desktop pack if I need to download it and install on an ubuntu 10.04?
[08:25] <jrolland-ubuntu> OK, I'm going to bed; I'll try again tomorrow
[08:26] <zus> on reinstallation it decided to  reuse the deleted packages and i was back to sqaure one...
[08:27] <madura> zus you can clear the cache and download new files
[08:27] <madura> zus: why do you need to reinstall FF?
[08:27] <moetunes> zus: tried   sudo apt-get purge firefox   ?
[08:27] <zus> thing is my book marks were saved for offline reading with fire fox...when iim at my place with no internet..
[08:27] <calumayoo> !reinstall
[08:28] <calumayoo> !remove konqueror
[08:28] <calumayoo> !uninstallkonqueror
[08:28] <calumayoo> !konqueror
[08:28] <moetunes> !msgthebot
[08:29] <madura> zus i have no idea how to get ur bookmarks back tho, why dont u export the bookmarks and import them again?
[08:30] <madura> zus: like export from home pc and import into FF in other pc where it has internet
[08:30] <zus> madura,  the google has read it later bookmarklets but it pulls them of thier site...firefox did it in the browser
[08:31] <madura> zus: u mean chrome?
[08:31] <zus> madura,  yeah
[08:32] <madura> zus: in FF if u want to get ur bookmarks in a new installation, you have to import it from a file
[08:32] <zus> madura,  nope i just go to the read it later site and log in.
[08:33] <zus> so as long as i have a connection i can use the browser to get them, but when i dont have a connection what is in the browser i can see offline
[08:34] <zus> everytime i make a new bookmark i have to click download book mark or i can see it offline
[08:35] <zus> my upgrade to 10.4 i had to download 487 bookmarks  ,..
[08:38] <madura> zus :S u use alot of bookmarkin! sorry i use FF but dont know much on it
[08:41] <zus> madura,  i dont have  internet at my place, and so i have tutorials and or certain helpfull pages saved for reading when im at home
[08:43] <zus> madura,  read it later add-on in firefox check it out i love it works with iphone also
[08:44] <madura> zus: oh thats like site riping
[08:45] <zus> madura,  there is an add-on that actually saves an entire website too but it took for ever for it
[08:48] <zus> googles ftw!   nothing  about comcast or yahoo here!
[08:51] <ForgeAus> hmm.. linux needs a an either/or dependancy check for its packages, so you can have something in KDE rather than having to have unnecessary Gnome dependancies
[08:56] <kasun> hello, Can I use Karmic APTonCD repository in Lucid as well?
[08:58] <moetunes> kasun: I wouldn't recommend it - there will be unmet dependencies because of version conflicts afaik
[08:59] <kasun> moetunes, okay thanks.
[08:59] <zus> i have no audio in you tube, can anyone check if its just me or is youtube being bad?
[08:59] <zus> my mp3's  play in dolphin and amorok
[09:00] <Power-Inside> Zus: switch new/old facebook , browsers or try upgrading flash
[09:00] <Power-Inside> sorry not facebook , youtube
[09:00] <FeasibilityStudy> zus: Probably an issue with flash.  What I do is get rid of the flash ubuntu installs and then download the 64 bit version from Adob'e site.
[09:01] <FeasibilityStudy> If I don't, I also don't get sound with the default flash ubuntu installs.,
[09:01] <iconmefisto> zus: do you have pulseaudio installed?
[09:02] <zus> bah thats right, different browsers,...well my kubuntu repos guide is bookmarked lol
[09:02] <zus> iconmefisto, how do i check?
[09:03] <iconmefisto> zus: apt-cache policy pulseaudio
[09:03] <iconmefisto> zus: I can never get flash sound when pulseaudio is installed
[09:04] <zus> hmm installed none came back with a couple other info,. one sec let me try something
[09:05] <soulsurfer> has anyone else had problem with sound between flash and amarok with kubuntu 10.04?  I installed kubuntu fresh, then the media addons and flash played sound, but if i start playing amarok, then sound for flash stops working
[09:09] <FeasibilityStudy> I recommend all of you switch to OSS.  You will be glad you did.  Goodbye sound issues.
[09:09] <soulsurfer> how can i switch to oss easilyi?
[09:09] <iconmefisto> FeasibilityStudy: OSS4? last time I tried, nothing worked
[09:10] <FeasibilityStudy> It depends on your hardware.   If your hardware supports it, then switch.
[09:10] <FeasibilityStudy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound
[09:11] <FeasibilityStudy> Read that.  Be sure to check that your hardware is compatible before you decide to try it.
[09:11] <soulsurfer> when flash is installed where does it decide which sound server to use?
[09:11] <FeasibilityStudy> I always switch to OSS no matter the distro I use.  Everything just works, and the sound quality is as good if not better than ALSA.
[09:12] <FeasibilityStudy> There used to be a package called "libflashsupport" that 32 bit nsplugionwrapper versions of flash had to have for sound to work..However, i dont see it in the repos now..
[09:14] <soulsurfer> huh
[09:15] <madura> well i had no prob with installing and using pulseaudio in kubuntu
[09:15] <soulsurfer> well i started following the directions on the oss page but killall pulseaudio doesn't work because it says pulseaudio: no process found
[09:15] <zus> in adobe site  do i get the .deb package for 8.04+
[09:15] <soulsurfer> madura, you had to install pulseaudio manually?
[09:15] <FeasibilityStudy> soulsurfer you on 64 bit kubuntu?
[09:15] <iconmefisto> FeasibilityStudy: flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound ?
[09:15] <soulsurfer> 32bit
[09:15] <madura> soulsurfer: yes
[09:16] <soulsurfer> ok i'll try
[09:16] <madura> soulsurfer: i mean from the repos
[09:16] <zus> there is also apt8.04+ the only two ubuntu
[09:16] <soulsurfer> yeah like sudo apt-get install pulseaudio ?
[09:16] <madura> soulsurfer: refer to the guide at ubuntu.com
[09:17] <FeasibilityStudy> 32 bit huh?  That's odd then.  It should work OOTB.  At any rate, for any of you 64 bit users, uninstall flash via apt.  Then go to the Adobe site here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html
[09:17] <madura> soulsurfer: yes but there are a few configs to do, like using routing ALSA output thru pulseaudio, flash uses ALSA
[09:17] <soulsurfer> oh ok thanks!
[09:17] <soulsurfer> although it looks like phonon is also trying to route through alsa
[09:18] <soulsurfer> so i don't understand why amarok kills the sound for flash
[09:18] <FeasibilityStudy> Download that flash package and unzip it to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[09:19] <madura> soulsurfer: goto phonon config
[09:19] <madura> soulsurfer: and prefer pulse audio sound server
[09:19] <madura> put it to the top
[09:20] <soulsurfer> ok. i'm installing pulseaudio now
[09:22] <soulsurfer> i don't understand why this isn't working right from the install.  is it just my hardware?
[09:22] <zus> iconmefisto,  am i missing something or there is nothing for google chromiums in here http://kubuntuguide.org/Lucid#Web_Browsers
[09:22] <soulsurfer> i just have a standard intel soundcard from the motherboard
[09:23] <vivien`> Hi. Does anyone connects to KDE with his SSH passphrases, under Lucid? I installes libpam-ssh, but I cannot find pam-ssh-*!
[09:23] <ForgeAus> soulserver AC97?
[09:23] <soulsurfer> the audio output in phonon says "HDA Intel (VT1708S Analog)"
[09:23] <ForgeAus> do a a console (or Terminal, Konsole, Yakuake, whatever) command: lspci it should tell you what hardware you have
[09:24] <vivien`> I installed libpam-ssh, dpkg-reconfigured it, launched "apt-file search pam-ssh-auth", etc. Nothing worked. The file does not seem to exist anymore.
[09:24] <ForgeAus> I don't know that hardware
[09:25] <soulsurfer> Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
[09:28] <asdzxc> hi
[09:29] <seth> After upgrading to 10.04 my nvidia driver doesn't work.
[09:29] <ForgeAus> seth, its probably a different method of getting nvidia working
[09:29] <ForgeAus> !nvidia
[09:29] <zus> i removed firefox, purged   it  now with chromium i have no youtube audio nothing is working
[09:30] <ForgeAus> seth you should be able to fix it...
[09:30] <ForgeAus> assuming that page has current info it will have how somewhere
[09:31] <asdzxc> i have problems with screen refresh rate. in System settings -> Display i can see it's set to 50Hz but when i look into the internal menu of my monitor, it is displaying 60Hz. in System settings i'm able to raise it only to 51Hz and when i do, monitor menu is displaying 75Hz (which is good). i don't care about the incorrect values in System settgins but problem is that after reboot, it is AGAIN set to 50 Hz and i need to change it. how can
[09:31] <ForgeAus> hmmm looks old, no mention of even Karmic...
[09:32] <seth> ForgeAus: I've spent hours trying different ways to fix it. I'm completely lost.
[09:33] <ForgeAus> try this maybe: http://www.sucka.net/2010/04/how-to-install-nvidia-video-driver-in-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[09:33] <ForgeAus> (its gnome-based tho..)
[09:33] <ForgeAus> I think mostly uses cli so gnome shouldn't matter)
[09:34] <seth> Ok. Hopefully, it helps.
[09:34] <seth> Thank you
[09:35] <soulsurfer> madura it worked, thanks!  Just installing pulseaudio and setting it first for phonon fixed it
[09:36] <madura> soulsurfer: :)
[09:38] <ForgeAus> seth, all I can say is good luck...
[09:43] <HoellP> hey
[09:44] <Benkinooby> hi everyone. i think i messed up the upgrade to lucid. i am still with karmic. i backed up the /etc/apt/sources.list (which was full of "lucid") and replaced it with my old ("karmic") sources.list. what else do i have to consider?
[09:44] <zus> alright i reinstalled a few things, still no audio in youtube.
[09:44] <HoellP> is there a way to get rid of the autostarting kbluetooth in 10.04?
[09:44] <HoellP> i don't even have a bt adapter...
[09:45] <ForgeAus> zus, its not something simple like volume or which ports your speakers are in is it?
[09:45] <moetunes> HoellP: it's not listed in services
[09:45] <HoellP> nowhere i can find it
[09:45] <zus> ForgeAus,  nope amorok is  playing even
[09:45] <ForgeAus> (if you normally use JACK to plug in your speakers, you might have to assign a port)
[09:45] <HoellP> i edited the config in my home and set autostart=false
[09:45] <HoellP> but it still starts
[09:45] <tom___> HoellP yes there ist, remoe kbluetooth via kpackagekit
[09:45] <zus> ForgeAus,  even in dolphin
[09:45] <HoellP> tom___, ok, i'm already on to that
[09:45] <ForgeAus> other than that I'm not alot of help with audio... I had to install a kernel module for my mobo one time
[09:46] <moetunes> HoellP: do in konsole   ls /etc/rc2.d   and look for a mention of bluetooth then
[09:46] <HoellP> was my last resort
[09:46] <tom___> I also removed it, I dont even have BT hardware
[09:46] <moetunes> or you can set it to not start in the runlevel
[09:46] <ForgeAus> zus, hmm... then sorry I have no idea
[09:47] <zus> ForgeAus,  its cool, im about one more mishap from reinstalling...at this point :)
[09:47] <HoellP> i try removing it from standard runlevel for now
[09:47] <HoellP> the funny thing is, only the tool gets started, no kernel modules...
[09:49] <moetunes> HoellP: don't remove it or upgrades will put it back - move it from havihg S at the start to having K at the start
[09:50] <Benkinooby> HoellP: kbluetooth is worrying em all the time too. i once managed to disable it, but since i activeted it accidentally, i have all the troubles again. kbluetooth is quite sticky...
[09:52] <madura> hey isnt kdevelop on the default repos?
[09:53] <ForgeAus> really? uh I thought it would have been
[09:53] <ForgeAus> !info kdevelop
[09:53] <ForgeAus> wow
[09:53] <HoellP> moetunes, i used update-rc to stop bluetooth from starting
[09:54] <ForgeAus> !kdevelop
[09:54] <HoellP> but that doesn't prevent kbluetooth from starting...
[09:54] <HoellP> so i uninstalled that
[09:54] <moetunes> ForgeAus: there's been a few folk mentioning it
[09:54] <ForgeAus> maybe it will be backported since its KDE4 vers is new isn't it?
[09:54] <zus> who suggested is it something simple like a volume or something ForgeAus ?
[09:54] <ForgeAus> (not sure if its the first KDE4 release for Kdevelop tho
[09:55] <ForgeAus> uh me I mentioned that...
[09:55] <ForgeAus> (not sure if someone else did too tho)
[09:55] <madura> ForgeAus: OMG!
[09:56] <madura> they dont include their default IDE !!
[09:56] <ForgeAus> uh? whats God got to do with it?
[09:56] <madura> :P
[09:56] <ForgeAus> Kubuntu used to have Kdevelop
[09:56] <moetunes> for those that want kdevelop - http://linuxdunyasi.net/?p=15039
[09:56] <ForgeAus> I think its just with the whole transition to Kde4
[09:56] <madura> thanks moetunes
[09:56] <ForgeAus> it will be there sometime
[09:56] <moetunes> np
[09:56] <madura> hmm
[09:57] <HoellP> i have kdevelop in universe...
[09:57] <ForgeAus> if not this release another coming one will get it
[09:57] <HoellP> not good enough for you?
[09:57] <zus> i got the gorram sound  in youtube,...the ruttin firefox thing had me so angry.....
[09:57] <moetunes> HoellP: you using karmic or lucid?
[09:57] <HoellP> lucid ofc
[09:57] <HoellP> Version: 4:4.0.0-0ubuntu1
[09:58] <HoellP> so it seems really fresh
[09:58] <ForgeAus> thats because it is really fresh
[09:58] <zus> thanks to everyone who has helped and suggested any help. ;)
[10:16] <scb> Anyone having issues with the power button in kubuntu after upgrading to 10.04?
[10:20] <justus> hi
[10:21] <eagles0513875> hey guys im loving lucid but not the left right and center crashing :( of everything
[10:21] <eagles0513875> like jockey kpackagekit source list editor crashing on reload
[10:21] <justus> how can I install thunderbird? I can't find it in the menu but I also can't find it in KPaketManager
[10:22] <marc-andre> justus: sure ? i installed it in kpaketmanager
[10:22] <marc-andre> justus: else you can always use Konsole and type "sudo apt-get install thunderbird"
[10:22] <justus> I search for Mozilla Thunderbird in all descritptions and find only thunderbird-dev and thunderbird-gnome-support
[10:23] <eagles0513875> justus: its just thunder bird
[10:23]  * marc-andre just typed thunder in the searchfield
[10:23] <Benkinooby> hi, i thing i messed up the lucid upgrade. also, i think i will stay with karmic for a while before upgrading to lucid (i am not all that experienced...). i set back my sources.lsit to "karmic" after everything was "lucid" in there. what other files do i have to consider?
[10:23] <eagles0513875> marc-andre: thunderbird also works
[10:23] <justus> if I just give in thunderbird I get a few dozen results, none of which is simply the package thunderbird
[10:24] <marc-andre> justus: the result gives you just "mail/rss client ..."
[10:25] <justus> ah, ok, that's why I didn't find it
[10:25] <justus> thank you
[10:25] <marc-andre> np
[10:25] <marc-andre> it's true, the results in kpaketmanager are not very clear
[10:25] <Fill23> 'apt-get install kdevelop' finds nothing, am i missing something?
[10:26] <marc-andre> but you have sometimes the name of the software written in small beneath the "name" or "description" in big
[10:26] <marc-andre> Fill23: did you add the PPA ?
[10:26] <eagles0513875> Fill23_:: try apt-cache search kdevelop to get a list of kdevelop packages
[10:26] <eagles0513875> marc-andre: should be in repos as well
[10:26] <eagles0513875> Fill23_: sudo apt-get install kdevelop shoudl do it
[10:26] <eagles0513875> as its already in the repos
[10:26] <marc-andre> well, i use Eclipse :)
[10:27] <eagles0513875> marc-andre: hehe me 2 for java dev
[10:27] <Fill23> marc-andre: do i need? i was thinking kdevelop is a core package for kde
[10:28] <eagles0513875> Fill23: it is
[10:28] <marc-andre> eagles0513875: i use it for PHP dev (Zend Studio) and with the Aptana plugin :D
[10:28] <Fill23> eagles051387: system don't find that package in repos
[10:28] <eagles0513875> Fill23:  let me find what repo you need to enable hold on
[10:28] <marc-andre> Fill23: the PPA is for the latest beta release
[10:29] <eagles0513875> Fill23: do you have the backports repo enabled or you can go ppa like marc-andre is suggesting
[10:29] <doc_> moin
[10:30] <Fill23> eagles051387: i'll go check backports, but can you explain me why this package not in the main repos?
[10:30] <doc_> ich suche eine aktuelle source.list für kubuntu kann mir da jemand einen link geben?
[10:30] <eagles0513875> Fill23: as i am not a developer i am unable to aner that quest
[10:30] <marc-andre> doc_: was genau suchst du was nicht schon in sources.list ist ?
[10:30] <eagles0513875> !de | doc_
[10:31] <eagles0513875> marc-andre: english in this channel plz
[10:31] <doc_> ohh sry
[10:31] <eagles0513875> doc_: no worries mate
[10:31] <eagles0513875> what ever language you feel better using we got a place for you :)
[10:31] <Fill23> eagles051387: no i don't have backports. jst gessed maybe you would know :)
[10:31] <marc-andre> didn't thought of it :D
[10:32] <eagles0513875> Fill23: what im thinking is they backported the upstream stable version
[10:32] <doc_> i go to #kubuntu-de... thx 2 all
[10:32] <eagles0513875> i could be wrong so if anyone knows feel free to correct me  if i am wrong is saying that
[10:32] <Benkinooby> doc_: you are lookign for a standard "lucid-sources.list"?
[10:35] <marc-andre> why did they actually replace Konversation with Quassel ?
[10:35] <Fill23> eagles051387: turns out you right :) all i was need to do is to check kubuntu site, they jst released kdevelop 4.0 and placed it in backports
[10:36] <Kottalizer> Good day.
[10:37] <moetunes> Kottalizer: yes it is :]
[10:37] <Kottalizer> moetunes: Do you use Kubuntu 10.04?
[10:37] <Freyr> how can i remove the printer applet ?
[10:38]  * eagles0513875 talk about buggy lucid :(
[10:38] <moetunes> Kottalizer: not yet...
[10:38] <eagles0513875> Fill23:  :)
[10:38] <marc-andre> Freyr: you open the plasmoids and rightclick on it
[10:38] <Kottalizer> moetunes: Ok, you're using an older version?
[10:38] <moetunes> Kottalizer: if you state your prob someone else here might know
[10:39] <moetunes> Kottalizer: I'm on my server atm
[10:39] <Kottalizer> moetunes: I haven't any problems, just found this chat program and wanted to see how it worked.
[10:39] <Freyr> ok
[10:39] <casper3> How can I configure boot splash in lucid??
[10:39] <moetunes> Kottalizer: k - there's lots of channels as well as here
[10:40] <Kottalizer> moetunes: I'll try to find some, thank you! :)
[10:40] <moetunes> if youi like to explore that is
[10:40] <Freyr> and how do i prevent from appear/starting again ? bcz every time i'm starting my kubuntu box it starts
[10:41] <justus> ok, that one is strange: I have 5 disks installed in my computer, 4 of them are listed, but the 120GB partition where I installed Win7 (and Kubuntu via wubi) is not listed, how can I mount it?
[10:52] <Freyr> is it possible to use ubuntu one in kubuntu ?
[10:53] <ForgeAus> how do you restart an X-server without restarting the PC (using a LiveCD)?
[10:53] <Freyr> ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:54] <moetunes> !ubuntuone | Freyr here's a link
[10:55]  * marc-andre like very much the integration of IM,mail and social networking in Gnome, the sober design, but not so the applications paked with Gnome
[10:56] <Bucky> hi, i'm a kubuntu newbie (first day with KDE...)
[10:56] <Bucky> got a couple of issues...
[10:57] <moetunes> you just ask away in here Bucky :]
[10:57] <ForgeAus> Bucky, such as?
[10:57] <Bucky> since when i turn on the proprietary ATI drivers, the login looks different
[10:58] <Bucky> it has something like 4 colours?
[10:58] <Bucky> !
[10:58] <ForgeAus> bucky, thats probably because the drivers are different
[10:58] <ForgeAus> its better to use the Opensource Drivers
[10:58] <ForgeAus> hehe I know I thought that was strange too but they really are better...
[10:58] <Bucky> with the open drivers was ok, but the fan was always turned on
[10:59] <ForgeAus> for Linux anyway...
[10:59] <ForgeAus> (different if your running windows or something)
[10:59] <Bucky> so your suggestion is just to turn off!
[10:59] <Bucky> i'll try
[11:00] <Bucky> second issue
[11:00] <SilverCode> Bucky: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/551290
[11:00] <ForgeAus> Bucky, you'd have to research if theres a tool to work with the fan, I don't know of one...
[11:00] <ForgeAus> I highly doubt the proprietary drivers will have that option anyway...
[11:01] <Bucky> yeah, is exactly like the image in the link!
[11:01] <Bucky> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42432650/DSC01055_.jpeg
[11:02] <Bucky> (this is the old logo anyway...)
[11:02] <Bucky> about the second issue...
[11:03] <Bucky> when i log on the network manager always ask to access to kdewallet to establish the connection
[11:03] <Bucky> is it possible to avoid this?
[11:04] <tom___> Bucky there is pwmconfig and lmsensors which are capable of controlling fans - but I never used them in kde
[11:04] <SilverCode> Bucky: haven't tried this, but in System Settings->KDE Wallet->
[11:04] <tom___> with gnome it worked fine
[11:05] <SilverCode> hang on, ignore that
[11:08] <Bucky> but when you log on it automatically connect to the network, without asking any pwd?
[11:08] <Bucky> maybe deleting all the connection pwd in the wallet?
[11:10] <ForgeAus> hmm why does Xchat return a ping request by saying ? second(s) ?
[11:10] <ForgeAus> (uh I should have put that in quotes
[11:10] <ForgeAus>  * Ping reply from ForgeAus: ? second(s)
[11:10] <Kottalizer> ForgeAus: Did you get one from me there?
[11:11] <ForgeAus> yeah
[11:11] <FinnArild> Ok - so - I have updated to 10.04 - get the loginscreen, then KDE crashes and brings me to the login screen.
[11:11] <ForgeAus> 22* Received a CTCP PING<PHONE_NUMBER> from Kottalizer
[11:11] <Kottalizer> ForgeAus: Right :)
[11:11] <ForgeAus> FinnArild:  thats what happens
[11:12] <FinnArild> ForgeAus: ??
[11:12] <ForgeAus> if the WM doesn't load it sends you back to login screen
[11:12] <ForgeAus> (sometimes loops)
[11:12] <ForgeAus> sounds like you have a problem with display or your X-server somewhere along the line
[11:12] <FinnArild> ForgeAus: X server seems to load, since the login is in X
[11:13] <FinnArild> but - it is very strange that a simple update should break my machine?
[11:13] <ForgeAus> you could try control + alt + backspace (restarts the X server - I think)
[11:13] <ForgeAus> what is a "simple" update? lol
[11:13] <ForgeAus> check your HDD space, and memory issues, maybe you just need to restart?...
[11:13] <ForgeAus> or depending on what you updated it could have been corrupt and messed up your config...
[11:14] <ForgeAus> I don't know I can only speculate
[11:14] <FinnArild> ForgeAus: well ... you'd like to be better than Windows, for example - there you get updates all the time that doesn't completely break the machine.
[11:14] <FinnArild> ... this is why non-technical people doesn't run Linux.
[11:15] <ForgeAus> linux normally doesn't have trouble updating things
[11:15] <ForgeAus> they don't USUALLY break the machine
[11:15] <ForgeAus> although some may require certain types of configuration
[11:15] <moetunes> I've never had an update break anything - had to redo configs tho
[11:15] <ForgeAus> FinnArild: what I mean to say is  your situation there is abnormal
[11:16] <FinnArild> ... must be my machine: and Acer REVOlution - cos' it happens every time I update something ...
[11:16] <ForgeAus> (as in not something to judge Linux by)
[11:16] <ForgeAus> FinnArild: thats odd.... try googling it, someone else may have had a similar problem
[11:16] <FinnArild> My wife is threatening with Windows Vista if I can't get it run smoothly .... the horror ....
[11:17] <ForgeAus> what update were you doing exactly?
[11:17] <ForgeAus> argh I hate in X-Chat how I can't rightclick - ping a user!
[11:17] <FeasibilityStudy> anyone know how to start the ubuntuone client from kubuntu?  I just installed it but it doesnt show in the menu and it doesnt start from the  cli either.
[11:18] <FinnArild> The machine asked if I wanted to update to 10.04 - I said yes, then it took all night and broke. I rebooted and did the apt-get distupgrade to finish it off.
[11:18] <FinnArild> ... now I can't log in ...
[11:18] <tom___> I like Quassel better than Xchat
[11:18] <ForgeAus> FeasibilityStudy: not in the menu?
[11:19] <ForgeAus> Quassel seems very, X-chat based for KDE...
[11:19] <FinnArild> ah - now it does a disk-check on reboot ...
[11:19] <ForgeAus> unfortunately I'm running a LiveCD of PCLinuxOS right now
[11:19] <FeasibilityStudy> ForgeAus: No it's not in the menu
[11:19] <Bucky> third issue: when i was using ubuntu there was a UbuntuSWCentre (or something like this) from which choosing the sw
[11:19] <ForgeAus> got KDE but its default chat client for IRC is X-Chat
[11:19] <FinnArild> man - that new kubuntu startup image is UGLY
[11:19] <Bucky> there was a list!
[11:19] <ForgeAus> not having alot of success fetching kubuntu either
[11:20] <Bucky> here i can't find it!
[11:20] <FinnArild> ForgeAus: ok - but which logfiles should I track for a kde crash?
[11:20] <ForgeAus> Ubuntu?... uh Kubuntu uses Adept (unless thats been replaced, possibly kpackagekit or something like that)
[11:20] <tom___> yes it it kpackagekit
[11:21] <ForgeAus> FinnArild: thats beyond my knowledgebase...
[11:21] <tom___> *is
[11:21] <ForgeAus> .. unfortunately
[11:21] <FinnArild> ok
[11:21] <Bucky> ok, i tried to find right there, but there's only a search mask!
[11:21] <FinnArild> ... maybe try the #kde channel ... but - there's a seldom spell of sun here in Norway so I'll be afk for a coffee on the veranda ...
[11:21] <Bucky> is not possible to have a list to check?
[11:21] <ForgeAus> a list of what?
[11:22] <Bucky> a list of softwarew name from which coosing the ones to install
[11:23] <ForgeAus> doesn't fedora (a rpm-based distro, pretty much opposite of Kubuntu as far as Linux goes) use packagekit too?(although you can get KDE for it - kinda like Debian - no real default Desktop, but lotsa options for one)
[11:23] <ForgeAus> Bucky, thats what kpackagekit is...
[11:23] <tom___> Bucky on the right is a drop down menu
[11:23] <tom___> with a list
[11:24] <ForgeAus> its the package manager (if you like more in more basic terms, a software installer)
[11:24] <tom___> Bucky the gnome version of ubuntu has a more user friendly software list, unfortunately
[11:25] <Bucky> tom___: thanks that was what i was looking for
[11:26] <Bucky> bye all
[11:31] <KenBW2> Is it possible to have an autohidden panel appear after a delay?
[11:33] <wedo> hello
[11:33] <wedo> is there anybody to help here?
[11:34] <wedo> :(
[11:34] <KenBW2> there might be if you ask a question
[11:34] <tom___> wedo whats your issue
[11:36] <wedo> thanks in advance,.. My network applet requires authentication to reach the wallet every time i restart my system.. how can I make it automatically authenicated?
[11:37] <kromium> Hi I installed kubuntu 10.04 and double quotes key ¨ is not working... how to resolve this?
[11:38] <tom___> wedo I never had this problem, but you can try looking into system settings - advanced - kdewallet
[11:39] <tom___> kromium you maybe have chosen the wrong keyboard layout - you can change this in system settings - regional settings
[11:39] <kromium> ok
[11:39] <KenBW2> wedo, tom___: ive been told that the only solution to that is have a blank password
[11:39] <KenBW2> its a PITA for me too
[11:40] <wedo> KenBW2: that means to remove the wallet password?
[11:40] <KenBW2> yea
[11:40] <KenBW2> rendering the wallet pointless
[11:41] <Benkinooby> how can i stop kbluetooth from starting when i log on? i checked all files that are related to it http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4932/kbluetooth.png but still it comes. i checked all possible menus in "System Settings" but it is not listed. where else can i check?
[11:42] <tom___> Benkinooby I simply removed the package Kbluetooth, but maybe there are better solutions
[11:43] <wedo> KenBW2: is it a Kubuntu bug? i did not face this problem with Ubuntu
[11:43] <Benkinooby> tom___: i was also thinking about this solution... but to be honest... there HAS to be a better solution
[11:44] <KenBW2> wedo: yes, gnome's equivalent automatically takes the password from your login
[11:44] <KenBW2> wedo: don't know if it's a bug or feature request for KDE
[11:44] <wedo> thank you KenBW2
[11:45] <wedo> i had this error message twice today do anybody know about it http://pastebin.com/jVzACpjQ
[11:53] <Mamarok> wedo: what did you try to do?
[11:54] <paolopoz> hello all - just installed virtualbox but keeps telling me that it lacks of the kernel module. using kubuntu 10.04, installed from universe
[11:54] <wedo> Mamarok:  i was trying to install new packages
[11:54] <Mamarok> wedo: looks like your apt folder is locked, just a second
[11:56] <wedo> Mamarok:  but i canceled it before finishing then the KpackageKit was showing - (waiting for service to start) i closed it then i had the error
[11:56] <Benkinooby> tom___: hahah, i managed
[11:56] <tom___> Benkinooby how did u do it?
[11:57] <Mamarok> wedo: you should not cancel an upgrade before finishing, you locked your apt folder. Try this: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/loc
[11:57] <Benkinooby> tom___: the problem is, that what ever u set, kubuntu will restart all apps and stuff that you left open, when shutting down
[11:57] <Benkinooby> tom___: so it just restarts all the bluetooth stuff when u reboot. i killed all processes related to it, an TADAAAA :)
[11:57] <Mamarok> wedo: then type: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:58] <wedo> Mamarok: i'm updating now
[11:58] <Benkinooby> tom___: this was the reason, why i could not be found in any autostart files or so...
[11:58] <Mamarok> wedo: there's a typo in my first instruction: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:59] <wedo> Mamarok:  but its very slow
[11:59] <Mamarok> wedo: well, downloading can be slow sometimes
[11:59] <tom___> Benkinooby that sounds good. There are more people having that problem...
[11:59] <wedo> Mamarok: does the Konqueror proxy settings affect the update connection?
[12:00] <zus> how can i make amorok the default player for music?
[12:00] <Mamarok> wedo: a proxy can cause slowness, yes
[12:00] <Mamarok> zus: Amarok *is* the default  music player in KDE
[12:01] <zus> Mamarok,  well when i click on my music vlc starts instead...not amorok
[12:01] <tom___> zus in system-settings - advances is a gui for file associations
[12:05] <Mamarok> zus: because you installed VLC afterwards, it went on top of the list, go to the Systemsettings and change the default apps
[12:05] <Trollinator> kubuntu netbook remix is a complete and utter usability failure. How can i turn off plasma-netbook and get a usable desktop back?
[12:06] <vistakiller> i have a strange problem with screensaver
[12:06] <Mamarok> Trollinator: check the system setting and change the default plasma desktop that should start
[12:06] <wedo> Mamarok: the authentication windows does not top the other windows, can i make it always be on top to notice it?
[12:06] <vistakiller> when i enable it from down 5 minutes it work
[12:06] <vistakiller> when is above 5 minutes i have only black screen and no screensaver
[12:06] <Mamarok> wedo: well, it should, just avoid clicking before it appears
[12:07] <vistakiller> any idea?
[12:07] <zus> Mamarok,  didnt see anything for music players and in default aps i found stuff for web browsers
[12:08] <Trollinator> Mamarok: thanks
[12:08] <Mamarok> zus: sorry, my bad, it's in the system settings advanced tab, file association
[12:08] <Mamarok> change the audio section files where VLC is on top, just push Amarok on top instead
[12:08] <Mamarok> Trollinator: you are welcome
[12:09] <Trollinator> i tried to get rid of netbook mode by just removing plasma-netbook. Except that when i logged in after that, all i got was an empty screen :/
[12:11] <Mamarok> Trollinator: that was described in the release notes about the kubuntu-netbook...
[12:11] <erinaceus_> Morning everyone, i was wondering, should i do a freshinstall for 10.4 or does an upgrade suffice?
[12:12] <Trollinator> do you actually expect normal users to read those?
[12:13] <Mamarok> erinaceus_: if you have a separate partition for your /home you can do a fresh install, but an upgrade is OK, too
[12:13] <Mamarok> Trollinator: yes, else we wouldn't even bother to write it
[12:13] <Mamarok> Trollinator: don't blame us for the laziness of users...
[12:13] <Trollinator> well, they don't. deal with it :)
[12:13] <erinaceus_> Mamarok: Thanks :) And another question, i have firefox as default browser, but if click on a link it still opens konqueror, where can i change that?
[12:13] <Mamarok> their problem then :)
[12:13] <zus> Mamarok,  my stuff must be broken, i dont see it any where-
[12:13] <Trollinator> um, no.
[12:14] <Mamarok> erinaceus_: where do you click on that link?
[12:14] <Trollinator> because users will switch to another distro if merely uninstalling a package (one that isn't marked essential) breaks their system.
[12:14] <Mamarok> zus: could you give me a screenshot of what you have in the basic settings?
[12:14] <ForgeAus> lol kewl nickname Trollinator  :)
[12:14] <Mamarok> Trollinator: no need to stand up to your nick, seriously
[12:14] <erinaceus_> Mamarok: Pidgin e.g., if i click on a link in firefox it opens a new tab ;)
[12:15] <Mamarok> removing it is never a recommended way to solve an issue
[12:15] <ForgeAus> nless it refers to turning others into trolls perhaps... ???
[12:15] <Mamarok> it's a setting, hence search in the settings
[12:15] <zus> Mamarok,  one sec
[12:15] <Mamarok> erinaceus_: change it in the Pidgin settings maybe?
[12:15] <Mamarok> I don't use Pidgin, it's not a KDE app
[12:15] <erinaceus_> Mamarok: Thx, i'll check
[12:15] <ForgeAus> Trollinator: normally kubuntu refers to it as removing or purging packages...
[12:16] <Trollinator> whatever.
[12:16] <Trollinator> still, uninstalling a package that isn't marked as essential should make the system unusable.
[12:16] <Mamarok> Trollinator: it does if you selected it to be the default starting desktop, what do you expect?
[12:17] <Mamarok> by marking it as the default you set it to essential to your system, removing it does break your desktop, that is just pure logic
[12:18] <Trollinator> I expect the kubuntu developers to write a shell script that checks whether somebody uses the netbook shell and put it into the prerm hook.
[12:18] <vadi01> BUG in forefox kubuntu: cannnot save images
[12:18] <vadi01> anyone with such an issue?
[12:18] <Vamp898> can anyone tell me why the kubuntu installation is _that_ slow? If i click on the "Next" Button it takes about
[12:19] <Vamp898> 1 minute or more to react and change the screen
[12:19] <Mamarok> Vamp898: what is the speed of your system?
[12:19] <Vamp898> 2x2 GHz T4200
[12:19] <Mamarok> it did install in less than 20 minutes here, fresh install
[12:19] <Mamarok> yep, pretty much the same here
[12:19] <Vamp898> the installation itself is fast
[12:19] <wedo> how can i change the software update server?
[12:20] <Trollinator> Mamarok: if Kubuntu is interested, i could write that shell script. It should be pretty trivial with k{read,write}config
[12:20] <Mamarok> Vamp898: well, a CD is a slow medium, it has to re-read it every time it comes back to it
[12:20] <Vamp898> Mamarok: The Ubuntu CD isn´t that slow
[12:20] <Mamarok> Trollinator: please suggest that in #kubuntu-netbook
[12:20] <Trollinator> OK.
[12:20] <Mamarok> Vamp898: can't tell, I never installed Ubuntu :)
[12:20] <zus> Mamarok, http://imagebin.org/95262
[12:20] <Vamp898> On the Ubuntu Live CD when i click "Next" in the installation framework it just switches the screen. on the Kubuntu Live CD i have to wait about 30 seconds or a lot more
[12:20] <zus> Mamarok,  is that what you asked for?
[12:21] <wedo>  i changed it through the software sources but when i do update useing the terminal it connecting to the same server
[12:21] <Mamarok> zus: yes, now go click on the audio section on the left, then on the file type you want to use Amarok by default
[12:21] <Vamp898> Mamarok: it is that slow since Kubuntu 9.10 before that release the installation was very fast (like the Ubuntu one)
[12:21] <Mamarok> Vamp898: you maybe just have a not so good CD
[12:22] <Vamp898> Mamarok: im doing it in a VM right now, directly from the ISO.
[12:22] <Mamarok> Vamp898: then I don't know, sorry. But be aware that a VM is not exactly the fastest...
[12:22] <Vamp898> Mamarok:  the live CD itself is fast. Everything runs fine. Only the installation screen is damm slow
[12:22] <Mamarok> Vamp898: file a bug then
[12:23] <Vamp898> yet another bugtracker account :/
[12:23] <zus> Mamarok,  ooh ya got to go through each file?
[12:24] <Mamarok> zus: only those that have vlc on top instead of Amarok, likely mp3, ogg and flac
[12:24] <Mamarok> unless you use other formats, then change those, too
[12:24] <zus> Mamarok,  got you...
[12:24] <Vamp898> Mamarok: there is already one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/164030
[12:25] <zus> ok thanks,
[12:25] <Mamarok> Vamp898: well, subscribe to it, not much I can do about, sorry
[12:25] <Mamarok> zus: you are welcome :)
[12:26] <Vamp898> Mamarok: i dont asked you to fix it ;) mostly im interested what causes this to maybe write a patch or something like that
[12:26] <zus> one other thing its been bothering me...my firefox some how used yahoo as it's search engine....i unistalled it cuz nothing i did fixed it...http://imagebin.org/95251
[12:26] <Mamarok> Vamp898: I don't know, check that bug report, that's the most likely source of information about it
[12:27] <zus> anyone around that might have an idea,
[12:27] <Mamarok> zus: I guess you had an old firefox from pre-beta stage Ubuntu, install a newer one
[12:27] <Mamarok> the one that came with the release uses Google as the default search engine, else you should be able to change it in the firefox settings
[12:28] <zus> Mamarok,  that was 3.6.3 from after installing i used the installfirefox icon iin kmenu
[12:28] <ForgeAus> Mamorok you mean: sudo apt-get upgrade firefox   ???
[12:28] <zus> ForgeAus, you're still here ...*wave
[12:29] <Mamarok> ForgeAus: well, he removed it already, no?
[12:30] <zus> Mamarok,  i have purged...and did sudo apt-get install .... short of going to the site and downloading it
[12:30] <Mamarok> zus: don't download from the mozilla site, use the Kubuntu sources
[12:30] <Mamarok> the released one should have google, else this is a bug
[12:30] <ForgeAus> in that case sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:30] <zus> Mamarok,  yeah they all gave me the same results
[12:30] <ForgeAus> anyway... Ig otta restart this X-server
[12:30] <Mamarok> but mine definitely uses Google, so maybe you have old settings lying around
[12:30] <ForgeAus> bbl
[12:30] <ForgeAus> btw hey zus :)
[12:31] <Mamarok> zus: move the .mozilla folder
[12:31] <zus> Mamarok,  that got deleted.. :0 it also began today and i havent used 10.4 before official release
[12:32] <zus> stragely enough my grub is still1.98.1 ubuntu5
[12:33] <Mamarok> zus: then check the Firefox settings
[12:33] <Mamarok> that is normal, grup2 is still in that numbering
[12:33] <Mamarok> grub2*
[12:34] <zus> ok, im used to seeing gub2 beta written over my os choices...id hate to reinstall the os.
[12:36] <Mamarok> well, 1,98 *is* beta
[12:36] <Mamarok> or maybe already RC
[12:36]  * Mamarok doesn't follow grub development that closely
[12:38] <zus> well, jusst in case i got a  ,mucked download, im redownloading it again,...least it aint like window where installing  updates will eat 24hours
[12:39] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: its RC
[12:39] <shadeslayer> bbl
[12:40] <zus> Mamarok,  it began when my notifications were refusing uninvited ip address
[12:41] <zus> thanks again.
[12:41] <zus> i wont bother with the vlc/amorok ill reinstall  anyways
[12:43] <zus> btw can google chrome display bookmarks offline? like firefox  read it later add-on?
[12:48] <FinnArild> After updating Kubuntu my KDE crashes after login. Here's Xorg.0.log and kdm.log: http://pastebin.com/16yS1gi5
[12:49] <Peace-> FinnArild: first.... sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:50] <Peace-> FinnArild: second... try to reNAME $HOME/.kde
[12:50] <FinnArild> kubuntu-desktop already installed.
[12:50] <FinnArild> already did the .kde renaming
[12:50] <eagles0513875> doesn anyone else experiencing alot of apps crashing when running them
[12:50] <FinnArild> but I can try again.
[12:50] <Peace-> eagles0513875: no
[12:50] <sheytan> Hi there
[12:50] <Peace-> FinnArild: no no
[12:50] <eagles0513875> Peace-: this makes no sense im on a clean install
[12:51] <Peace-> FinnArild: you probabily have updated and so video driver was upgraded too..
[12:51] <sheytan> my mouse wheel (right-left) doesn't work in lucid. Any ideas how to fix it?
[12:51] <Peace-> that should be the why
[12:51] <Peace-> eagles0513875: dunno man i am video editing :D
[12:51] <FinnArild> Peace-: hm - but the login screen looks good ...
[12:51] <Peace-> and it's working great
[12:51] <Peace-> FinnArild: mmm
[12:51] <eagles0513875> Peace-: O_o
[12:51] <Peace-> thinking
[12:51] <FinnArild> Peace-: which should be with the same video driver? or?
[12:52] <eagles0513875> for instance kubuntu wants me to install some extra stuff for amarok
[12:52] <FinnArild> Peace-: what about the ibus complaints in the log
[12:52] <eagles0513875> and as soon as i hit install the program crashes
[12:52] <FinnArild> IBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon
[12:52] <Peace-> FinnArild: before you had that problem ? i mean before was working ?
[12:52] <Peace-> without issues?
[12:53] <FinnArild> Peace-: before I upgraded to 10.04 everything ran fine
[12:53] <Peace-> FinnArild: you was on 9.10?
[12:53] <zus> sheytan,  i coulnt get my mouse wheel (left right tilt) working either but the back forward thumb buttons did...
[12:53] <FinnArild> Peace-: ... I am pretty sure I was, yes
[12:53] <Peace-> FinnArild: well i suggest to use a fressh new installation...
[12:53] <FinnArild> Peace-: eek
[12:53] <Peace-> FinnArild: less time ...
[12:54] <FinnArild> Peace-: this machine has no CD rom ...
[12:54] <Peace-> i mean 20 minutes and you get your system back...
[12:54] <Peace-> ok usb stick?
[12:54] <FinnArild> Peace-: yes ... will it keep my configurations then?
[12:54] <Peace-> FinnArild: if you have a /home and a /
[12:54] <Peace-> you can keep your settings...
[12:54] <FinnArild> I obviously have a / :)
[12:54] <Peace-> if you have only a /
[12:55] <Peace-> you will lost everything
[12:55] <FinnArild> no, no - there's /home too :)
[12:55] <sheytan> zus yeah, but i need my mouse get to work
[12:55]  * FinnArild <- not a complete beginner :)
[12:55] <Peace->  /home FinnArild is inn a different partition ?
[12:55] <FinnArild> Peace-: no, all on same partition
[12:55] <plush> heya... i am having problems with kubuntu. installed perfectly fine last night. everything worked. but now, it stopped booting. all i get is a blinking text cursor. no grub messages, no boot screen, no nothing. what gives?
[12:56] <Peace-> so.... you will lost everything witha new installation...
[12:56] <Peace-> plush: mmm sounds like a big problem you should investigate with a live cd
[12:56] <FinnArild> hm - ok. I'd rather fix the issue I have, then ... it's probably a simple fix .
[12:56] <plush> Peace-: netbook. no cd :(
[12:56] <Peace-> plush: seems you have lost grub
[12:56] <FinnArild> Peace-: what about uninstalling kde and re-installing it?
[12:56] <Peace-> plush: use usb stick then
[12:57] <Peace-> FinnArild: you can try but like i said before ... if was i i will erased my hd ...
[12:57] <plush> Peace-: yeah, will have to make a usb key. what's the kubuntu tool for that? last time around, i used windows to make the usb key.
[12:57] <Peace-> i have no time to understand what was messing up my system
[12:57] <Peace-> ;D
[12:57] <Peace-> expecially if i hav e upgraded ...
[12:57] <FinnArild> Peace-: ... hang on - a dude in #KDE had the same problem as I
[12:58] <plush> Peace-: after 15 minutes of blinking cursor, it just booted
[12:58] <James147> plush: usb-creator-kde  to make live usbs
[12:58] <Peace-> plush: main bar of kde ... search usb
[12:58] <plush> the first one to complain that it doesn't work was my mom this morning.
[12:58] <Peace-> plush: mmm kernel issue?
[12:58] <plush> she force-powered down the thing after 10 mins
[12:58] <plush> i had more patience
[12:58] <plush> let me see whether dmesg says anything obvious
[13:00] <plush> ok, here is the place where it hangs:
[13:00] <plush> after 6 seconds, i have sdb
[13:00] <zus> from now on first thing i install is virtual box and install kubuntu in that. lately for me its one thing after another
[13:00] <Peace-> sorry i finished my time
[13:00] <plush> a full 5 seconds later, i have ext4-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode
[13:00] <Peace-> bye
[13:00] <plush> another 212 seconds (!) later the boot continus
[13:01] <plush> *continues
[13:01] <plush> so for some reason, it hangs there fore four minutes, doing something with the file system
[13:03] <plush> ok, next reboot, now it's dead totally
[13:04] <plush> grub just gave up waiting for root device
[13:04] <vistakiller> i have create a new vote for final lucid impressions to kubuntu forum
[13:04] <eagles0513875> are there any issues with ext4 and hard drives over 2tb in regards to lockups
[13:04] <vistakiller> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3111436.0
[13:04] <vistakiller> please vote now! :)
[13:05] <vistakiller> this is the vote we have done for rc and beta  there
[13:05] <vistakiller> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3111181.0
[13:05] <vistakiller> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3110659.0
[13:06] <kynarion> hi there
[13:06] <vistakiller> hi
[13:06] <FinnArild> syslog says: May  2 14:04:26 jeanluc kdm_greet[2362]: Cannot load /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/faces/.default.face: No such file or directory
[13:06] <FinnArild> ... could that be a problem?
[13:07] <FOAD> Hello.
[13:07] <FOAD> When I try to run krunner, I get the following:
[13:07] <FOAD> <unknown program name>(12760)/: Communication problem with  "krunner" , it probably crashed.
[13:07] <FOAD> Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.LimitsExceeded" : " "The destination service "org.kde.krunner" has a full message queue" "
[13:07] <FOAD> What is this, and how do I fix it?
[13:07] <FloodBotK1> FOAD: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:07] <FOAD> Sure.
[13:11] <Peace-> FinnArild: you have a face stuff installed ?
[13:11] <Peace-> i mean some software that recognize your face to login ?
[13:11] <FinnArild> Peace-: nope
[13:11] <FinnArild> Peace-: does that even exist? wow!
[13:12] <Peace-> yes exist..
[13:12] <Peace-> but it's unstable
[13:13] <Peace-> FinnArild: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/459220
[13:13] <Peace-> FinnArild: you had oxygen theme before?
[13:13] <Peace-> *had you
[13:13] <Fleck> kubuntu 10.04 amd64bit xorg runs at 100% cpu usage, everything is slow, feels like P3 500Mhz PC with 128MB ram :( help, how can i debug this?
[13:14] <FinnArild> hm
[13:14] <FinnArild> Peace-: I think maybe
[13:14] <eagles0513875> Fleck: you sure its xorg
[13:14] <James147> Fleck: I would close all programs you might have open
[13:15] <FinnArild> strange though - when I do "apt-get remove kdebase" - it says it is not installed ...
[13:15] <Peace-> FinnArild: i have seen this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=550992
[13:15] <FinnArild> should I try installing this?
[13:15] <Peace-> FinnArild: i am reading this and so there is a messing up because it's messing a file
[13:15] <Fleck> eagles0513875 well no :) i think some app is "talking" to xorg werry busy :P
[13:15] <Peace-> *seems*
[13:15] <Peace-> so...
[13:16] <Peace-> we should understand where get that file
[13:16] <Peace-> so basically we should install (reinstall ) some packages
[13:16] <kynarion> after (or better: while) upgrading from karmic to lucid i got a nasty error concerning the fglrx-driver (installation went somehow wrong). So i removed the fglrx driver manually and tried to reinstall it - each attempt to do the latter failed with various errors. It seems to me that ati drivers cause lots of trouble on lucid, but i couldn't find the ideal way to get rid of this problem. Do you?
[13:16] <James147> Fleck: Close all open applications and see if it impoves if not try disabling nepomuk (system settings > advanced > desktop search)
[13:17] <Fleck> i have nepomuk disabled
[13:17] <FinnArild> hm
[13:17] <FinnArild> Peace-: how would I go about installing the other lib from unstable like it says in the desc. there?
[13:17] <Peace-> FinnArild: see here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1343012
[13:18] <Peace-> FinnArild: good luck :)
[13:18] <FinnArild> Peace-: thanks - lots of info there.
[13:19] <Liw-> hi everyone
[13:20] <Liw-> I'm having a hard time trying to configure my macbook2,1 right apple key to map the altgr key
[13:20] <Liw-> in lucid
[13:21] <Liw-> the previous solution i've used in karmic is not working
[13:21] <c3l> Im running two monitors, spread over one desktop. why doesnt the "multiple monitors" settings at display settings work?
[13:21] <eagles0513875> hey guys im on lucid 64bit on a clean install and trying to install extra functionality etc and the app crashes be it gdebi or otherwise
[13:21] <c3l> it tells me that I dont have 2 monitors to spread over one desktop
[13:21] <eagles0513875> this is a backtrace i got anyone have any idea
[13:22] <eagles0513875> http://pastebin.com/3nsCzwYL
[13:22] <eagles0513875> c3l: do you have your video card driver installed from the repos
[13:22] <c3l> but when I set the two monitors beside each other, just like I want in the normal display settings it all works, until reboot - after that its reset and both screens are cloned
[13:22] <Liw-> what I did before was to add the line include "level3(rwin_switch)" to /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/level3
[13:23] <Liw-> now it doesn't work :/
[13:23] <c3l> eagles0513875: if it didnt ge installed by default, I dont have it
[13:23] <Liw-> any idea?
[13:24] <Peace-> eagles0513875: install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:24] <Peace-> that's all
[13:24] <eagles0513875> c3l: can you run a glxinfo | less and if it says direct rendering it was automatically installed
[13:24] <eagles0513875> Peace-: i have them already im updated and still all these apps crashing
[13:24] <eagles0513875> cant even update the repos i want to use
[13:26] <eagles0513875> seems like a bug with qt
[13:26] <eagles0513875> or something of that nature i dont quite understand the backtrace Peace-
[13:26] <Peace-> eagles0513875: you mean extra stuff like mp3 encoder and flash and etc etc?
[13:26] <eagles0513875> no
[13:26] <kynarion> does anybody know the correct way to install an ati-graphic-driver on lucid? I removed all old installations of fglrx now and could try again.
[13:27] <eagles0513875> Peace-: like using gdebi to install a package but it crashes immediatly
[13:27] <eagles0513875> or installing some extra dvd stuff for amarok
[13:27] <Peace-> eagles0513875: lol strange
[13:27] <eagles0513875> crashe
[13:27] <eagles0513875> s
[13:27] <eagles0513875> Peace-: its a bug in python 2.6 i believe
[13:27] <eagles0513875> as the dbg package i downloaded was for python 2.6
[13:27] <voicu> Hi, does anyone here have an nvidia multi monitor setup?
[13:27] <Peace-> eagles0513875: well but you install what you need via konsole
[13:27] <eagles0513875> yes
[13:27] <voicu> I need some help
[13:27] <eagles0513875> but skype isnt in the repos so i have no choice to use a .deb package
[13:27] <Peace-> !nvidia
[13:27] <kmcgraw> any idea why chromium browser hangs on Google search, Google mail web site (Firefox works however)?
[13:28] <eagles0513875> Peace-: how can i install skype with dpkg
[13:28] <voicu> Peace-: I have the driver installed, that is not the problem
[13:28] <Peace-> kmcgraw: i have seen gogoole chrome hangs too..
[13:28] <oxymoron>  Hi guys, how do I fix this? http://pastebin.com/Cs8zah5G
[13:28] <Peace-> voicu: in htat link you should read some information about driver setting soo multimonitor setting too
[13:29] <eagles0513875> nm Peace- i figured it out
[13:29] <Peace-> eagles0513875: dpkg -i pathofdebianpackage
[13:29] <Peace-> eagles0513875: of course with sudo before
[13:29] <eagles0513875> ya  :)
[13:29] <Peace-> xD
[13:29] <eagles0513875> thought i woudl try that but wanted to make sure
[13:29] <eagles0513875> its pissing off though that all this stuff is crashing
[13:30] <Peace-> voicu: if you read... infact in that link you can see this for example https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaMultiMonitors
[13:31] <voicu> Peace-: itś not a problem with the driver, I set it up, it works. The problem is KDE not working properly with it
[13:31] <voicu> Peace-: sometimes it uses the whole desktop while other times it uses just one screen
[13:32] <voicu> for example, movies play in fullscreen on jsut one screen and I want it to go on both
[13:32] <Peace-> voicu: try to install like said here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaMultiMonitors  sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[13:32] <kmcgraw> I can't change themes in Firefox. It seems stuck in mid change. After restart it still needs to restart.
[13:32] <voicu> I did that
[13:32] <Peace-> so i guess it's a driver issue
[13:33] <Peace-> + kde issues
[13:33] <Peace-> but i dunno how to fix it
[13:33] <voicu> itś kde issues
[13:33] <voicu> the driver works fine, movies play along both monitors
[13:33] <Peace-> systemsettings.... display?
[13:33] <Peace-> try here #kde too
[13:34] <voicu> yes, thatś the source of the problems, kde keeps seeing the desktop split onto 2 monitors but i want it to ´see´ just a big 2560x1024 screen
[13:34] <voicu> yeah, iĺl try #kde
[13:35] <kmcgraw> is there a command that will verify/fix the upgrade? I suspect my upgrade may not be correct.
[13:35] <eagles0513875> this is CENSORED
[13:35] <voicu> also, the keyboard layout is misbehaving
[13:35] <eagles0513875> basically i only have a very limited functioning desktop atm :(
[13:35] <voicu> i have a german keyboard i think but i set it as us layout
[13:36] <voicu> yet it still does some weird stuff like instead of "it's" it writes "itś"
[13:37] <c3l> I managed to hide the menu bar in the console, and it doesnt reappear from ctrl+m
[13:38] <c3l> how do I get it back
[13:38] <rmrfslash> Is there any way to prevent my laptop from catching on fire when I use the open source radeon (ati) driver? the laptop gets really hot and kill the battery really fast.
[13:38] <rmrfslash> Feels like the fan is pretty much always on.
[13:39] <rmrfslash> Anyone else experience this?
[13:39] <c3l> try using some energy saving settings. so that all the components isnt on full use all the time
[13:40] <FinnArild> 10.04 - is it currently a beta release?
[13:40] <rmrfslash> FinnArild: no, it's "final"
[13:40] <oxymoron> FinnArild: No, stable now. Look on www.ubuntu.com or www.kubuntu.org
[13:40] <FinnArild> hm
[13:40] <eagles0513875> FinnArild: been released
[13:40] <eagles0513875> !release
[13:40] <FinnArild> yes ... I did, but I looked at some wrong files.
[13:40] <eagles0513875> whoops not what i wanted
[13:40] <eagles0513875> !lucid | FinnArild
[13:41] <FinnArild> Now there is so many more people here - could you have a look at this pastebin: http://pastebin.com/16yS1gi5
[13:41] <FinnArild> My KDE crashes right after the login screen and presents me with the login screen again.
[13:41] <FinnArild> ... and there seems to be no traceback to be found anywhere!
[13:43] <c3l> how do i get back the menu in the console, ctrl+m doesnt work, all it does is skip a row inside the terminal
[13:44] <James147> FinnArild: Do you get an error message or does it just go stright back to login screen?
[13:44] <rmrfslash> c3l: I just went into Power Management... there's not much I can configure there that has to do w/ the graphics other than shutting off desktop effects under certain profiles which I did. This behavior I'm describing occurs no matter what profile I'm on. For example, right now I have the laptop plugged in and the fan just keeps going and going and going.
[13:44] <FinnArild> James147: straight back to login screen just as I had done a /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[13:44] <James147> c3l: right click konsole and yoiu should have the option (i thinkits shit+ctrl+m)
[13:44] <FinnArild> s/as I/as if I/
[13:45] <James147> FinnArild: first check the owner and premission of "~/.ICEauthority" make sure it isent owned by root
[13:45] <c3l> James147: hahah I tried all but a ordinary rightklick right on the console :$ thanks!
[13:46] <FinnArild> hm
[13:46] <FinnArild> James147: readable by user only
[13:46] <James147> FinnArild: and user is you?
[13:46] <FinnArild> James147: -rw------- 1 finn finn 0 2009-10-29 22:02 .ICEauthority
[13:46] <FinnArild> yes
[13:46] <James147> FinnArild: thats fine
[13:46] <c3l> rmrfslash: hmm, well maybe try with some other drivers, im not sure really
[13:46] <oxymoron> Can anyone help me please once and for all with my problem with OpenGL and Cairo Dock?
[13:47] <James147> FinnArild: second thing, try renaming ~/.kde  (~/.kdebackup  will do) and try again
[13:47] <rmrfslash> I feel like going to the catalyst/proprietary driver only makes things more unstable... unfortunately
[13:47] <FinnArild> James147: tried that 2-3 times - didn't work.
[13:47] <James147> FinnArild: dam :(
[13:47] <FinnArild> hm
[13:47] <FinnArild> James147: .rnd is owned by root only
[13:48] <FinnArild> and .ure
[13:48] <James147> FinnArild: third, try creating a new user (adduser) and see if ti works for them
[13:48] <plush> anyone got an idea what could cause a boot to take over 10 minutes, hanging like this? http://pastebin.com/SA4VPvhk
[13:48] <FinnArild> James147: already done :)
[13:48] <FinnArild> James147: crashes just the same way
[13:48] <James147> FinnArild: hmm thats not good :(
[13:49] <James147> FinnArild: try runbning "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install -f"
[13:50] <FinnArild> hm ... it actually does some stuff
[13:50] <FinnArild> James147: getting some gimp stuff right now ...
[13:51] <FinnArild> James147: also it installed some libkde stuff
[13:51] <James147> FinnArild: then it looks like an install or update was cancled 1/2way though
[13:51] <FinnArild> James147: it was, but I thought I had fixed that ...
[13:51] <James147> FinnArild: Guess you dident :) but should be after that command finished
[13:52] <FinnArild> James147: great - I'm hoping it works. Gonna go get some sun on the balcony now while this stuff gets installed :)
[13:55] <kynarion> back from reboot
[13:57] <vistakiller> anyone have problem with akregator rss renew time?
[13:57] <vistakiller> is stuck to one minute and i cant change it
[13:57] <kynarion> i tried to install the fglrx driver via System -> Hardware drivers. After reboot the fglrx driver appears there as "running", but: fglrxinfoX Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[13:57] <millun> hi, anyone made postgresl 8.4 work in an upgraded kubuntu?
[13:58] <millun> incomplete startup packet
[14:01] <_Wise_> hi *
[14:04] <_Wise_> is this the right place for a noob-that-spend-a-full-day-in-faqs-and-forums to ask a Kubuntu10.4/kde4/gtk question ?
[14:04] <vistakiller> yes
[14:04] <_Wise_> cool
[14:04] <FinnArild> James147: no luck. It crashes still - now somehow faster. Here's the logs I tail -f'd http://pastebin.com/z9LgaTkk
[14:06] <xrfang> is there any KDE application to use with scanners?
[14:06] <James147> FinnArild: hmm, try renaming .kde again and prey :D
[14:06] <FinnArild> James147: I did ... well - I'm an atheist, so I just removed .kde :)
[14:06] <_Wise_> my gtk applications (like Firefox) look uggly. While systems settings->GTK+ appearance seem to be ok
[14:07] <James147> FinnArild: i mean prey to your computer :)
[14:07] <_Wise_> xrfang : I use Skanlite
[14:07] <FinnArild> ah
[14:07] <xrfang> _Wise_: thank you I will search for it
[14:07] <FinnArild> James147: still no luck, though ...
[14:08] <user_> why my chat in facebook dosentwork
[14:08] <FinnArild> James147: I keep getting: QFileSystemWatcher: failed to add paths: /tmp/2090817891/.config/ibus/bus - in the log. Could that be it?
[14:10] <James147> FinnArild: really not sure now, what i would do is rerun the prevoius command (just incase) then try deleting .kde again then try a new user again... if that fails I would reinstall but thats becase its easier to do that on my systems then try to actually firgure out whats wrong :)
[14:10] <_Wise_> What is the default Widget style in System Settings -> GTK+ Apprearance ? I think I busted my GTK config before upgrading to lucid...
[14:10] <FinnArild> James147: yes - I got the reinstall suggestion before today.
[14:11] <FinnArild> James147: no CD on this machine though, so I'd need to use a romstick
[14:11] <James147> FinnArild: then i take it that it is not an option? any reason why?
[14:11] <James147> FinnArild: romsitck? can you use usb flash sticks?
[14:11] <FinnArild> James147: well -firstly it would remove my setup ...
[14:11] <user_> why my chat in facebook dosentwork
[14:11] <FinnArild> FinnArild: usb-flash of course :)
[14:12] <user_> anyone
[14:12] <FinnArild> James147: but I guess I just should try that.
[14:12] <James147> user_: using what browser?
[14:12] <millun> how can i un-fuckup postgres in upgraded kubuntu 10.04?
[14:12] <FinnArild> James147: trying creating a new user for the last time :)
[14:12] <user_> mozilla
[14:13] <user_> ubuntu 7.04
[14:13] <James147> user_: 7.04... thats very old
[14:13] <user_> first time i use ubuntu
[14:14] <_Wise_> user_: and unsupported...
[14:14] <James147> user_: 7.04 has reached end of life and is no longer supported
[14:14] <FinnArild> James147: my new user "johan" also crashes kde, so I guess I'll go looking for a usb-stick.
[14:14] <James147> FinnArild: really not sure whats wrong :S
[14:14] <user_> well how ill get  a new one
[14:15] <user_> 10.04
[14:15] <James147> user_: you can download it from kubuntu.org
[14:15] <_Wise_> user_ : that's the last version
[14:15] <user_> i dunno
[14:16] <_Wise_> user_ : you don't know how to upgrade your 7.04 version to 10.4 ?
[14:16] <James147> user_: _Wise_if you do that you would have to upgrade through the other version one at a time
[14:17] <user_> no i dont know _Wise_
[14:17] <James147> user_: giving a higher change of somehting breaking... but it is doable (reinstall is easier and less likly to break)
[14:17] <user_> show me please how to reinstall
[14:17] <user_> to upgrade
[14:17] <James147> user_: either way I would suggest tessting a live cd (or usb) first to make sure it works
[14:18] <user_> aha ok
[14:18] <user_> usb
[14:18] <James147> user_: first you need to downlaod the iso from http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download  (assuming you want kubuntu and not ubuntu)
[14:19] <user_> yes
[14:19] <James147> user_: then use "usb-creator" to make a live usb (if you want to do it via usb) (note I am not sure if usb-creator is on 7.04, if not try unetbootin instead) or burn it to a cd
[14:20] <millun> is there a safe way to REINSTALL Postgres in kubuntu ?
[14:20] <FinnArild> James147: I don't find any links to the usb-install ...
[14:20] <user_> ill try that James147
[14:21] <James147> FinnArild: never seen one, you can use usb-cretor[-kde] or unetbootin to create a live usb from a cd iso
[14:21] <James147> FinnArild: usb-creator[-kde] sorry :)
[14:21] <FinnArild> James147: any windows or mac apps that can do the same? My only linux machine is down :)
[14:21] <James147> FinnArild: unetbootin then
[14:21] <user_> thx a lot
[14:21] <user_> bye
[14:23] <FinnArild> James147: unetbootin looks great, thanks :)
[14:24] <newbie3211> need help guys where do i ask?
[14:25] <James147> !help | newbie3211
[14:26] <newbie3211> new to irc as a matter of fact just logged in..i use ubuntu 9.10 today i downloaded kubuntu 10.04 lts i tried runnin the live cd but i get a blank screen after initial boot screen
[14:27] <_Wise_> I'm desperately looking for a kde4-gtk-qt-engine package in Ubuntu/Kubuntu, but can't find one.
[14:27] <James147> newbie3211: first thing to check is that the disk isnt bad (run the disk check from the inital boot screen (if you can get that far?))
[14:28] <James147> _Wise_: qtcurve i think is what you want to look for
[14:28] <newbie3211> @james147 i ran the disk check immediately after that.. the disc seems to be fine.no errors
[14:29] <_Wise_> James147: gtk2-engines-qtcurve - This is a set of widget styles for Gtk2 based apps <-- this one ?
[14:29] <James147> _Wise_: posibally, might also need the "qtcurve" package as well (havent tested it yet but that should be enough for you to play around with
[14:30] <_Wise_> James147: thx
[14:30] <newbie3211> james147 i downloaded the x386 version
[14:31] <James147> newbie3211: what graphics card do you have?
[14:31] <newbie3211> my laptop is a bit old..1.7 ghz 1 gb ram but no graphics card its plain intel gme
[14:31] <newbie3211> do i need a graphics card
[14:31] <newbie3211> ?
[14:31] <James147> newbie3211: no, intel cards work well
[14:32] <James147> newbie3211: or at least should do :S
[14:32] <newbie3211> even the login screen is not in full color..like only blue and not as appealing as shown in the kubuntu site..i mean its 16bit color
[14:33] <James147> newbie3211: mine went the save after i enabled the nvidia drivers :(
[14:33] <James147> newbie3211: when do you get the blank screen?
[14:34] <newbie3211> did u try the 10.04 kubuntu ??
[14:34] <rome> hi room
[14:34] <James147> newbie3211: running 10.04 now
[14:34] <rome> i am new to kubuntu
[14:34] <James147> !hi | rome
[14:34] <rome> thx!
[14:34] <newbie3211> after all the lights that run in the 16bit blue color thingy with kubuntu written above it the lights load and after disappearing the screen goes blank in two minutes
[14:35] <Athunye> Hello.
[14:35] <rome> i really like how easy it all works in kubuntu
[14:35] <Athunye> What is the difference between the cd and the dvd iso?
[14:35] <newbie3211> oh i really want to try the kubuntu..looks visually very attractive
[14:35] <newbie3211> using karmic koala now
[14:35] <rome> newbie3211 this is kde4