[00:00] <tomreyn> yes, i would also expect this to be the same
[00:00] <gloin> murmel: so the flatpak version looks as I'd expect it to
[00:01] <murmel> gloin: interesting. still not done installing the desktop part :(
[00:01] <Jurilo> https://i.imgur.com/tufCNox.png and https://i.imgur.com/nDa4Mhk.png
[00:01] <goddard> yep ok figured out the issue
[00:01] <gloin> no fugly borders, message list and headers match theme
[00:01] <goddard> its bluetooth
[00:01] <goddard> disabled bluetooth and everything works fine
[00:01] <Jurilo> tomeryn, murmel: that's what I have
[00:01] <goddard> strange
[00:01] <Jurilo> tomreyn*
[00:02] <goddard> maybe the thunderbolt port is close to bluetooth or something?
[00:03] <murmel> Jurilo: second picture, click continue, there should be an option to choose which disk
[00:04] <tomreyn> Jurilo: okay, previously (in 2017) it looked like this: https://www.addictivetips.com/app/uploads/2017/04/ubuntu-installation-type.png
[00:05] <goddard> damn linux is awesome
[00:05] <tomreyn> murmel: i can't seem to remember such a screen (where you select the target device with automated partitioning) really.
[00:06] <Jurilo> murmel: unfortunately I can only select the disk on which windows is installed
[00:06] <tomreyn> Jurilo: so there is a selection screen? can you screenshot that, too?
[00:09] <murmel> I mean this is 20.04, but I can clearly choose https://imgur.com/a/rLc6eY9
[00:10] <tomreyn> that's a system with two disks, one with windows installed, the windows install detected?
[00:10] <Jurilo> OKay so the problem is when I choose 'Erase disk and install' with advanced option for LVM and encryption, the next step is for password for LVM and the button in right bottom corner is 'Install Now'
[00:10] <murmel> tomreyn: no, as it's a new vm, but I am sure that it's the same, as I installed a system like that on a friends pc
[00:10] <tomreyn> (and UEFI booting?)
[00:11] <Jurilo> If I don't select LVM and ecryption I actually can select disk like on this screenshot that murmel have sent
[00:11] <murmel> yes
[00:11] <tomreyn> Jurilo: oh that makes sense
[00:11] <tomreyn> thanks murmel
[00:11] <Jurilo> I just don't dare to click Install Now
[00:12] <Jurilo> As it could wipe my Windows installation
[00:12] <murmel> tomreyn: imo it doesn't make sense
[00:12] <tomreyn> well, full disk encryption will take one full disk (the non windows one) and use it for ubuntu. so no choice there
[00:13] <murmel> shouldn't fde be just the linux part?
[00:13] <tomreyn> you could actually do that on the windows disk, too, unless it's a 'dynamic disk'
[00:13] <Jurilo> So the question is, is it possible to choose the exact disk I want to erase and do LVM+encryption install?
[00:13] <tomreyn> yes, murmel
[00:13] <Jurilo> How can I be sure that it will select the non-windows one?
[00:13] <Jurilo> I have 4 disks here
[00:13] <tomreyn> oh, i thought you had 2
[00:14] <Jurilo> 1 windows, 1 erased, two for zfs mirror
[00:14] <murmel> tomreyn: the weird part is he can only choose the one which has windows on it when encryption
[00:14] <tomreyn> okay, then i don't know where it will install to
[00:14] <tomreyn> murmel: where do you see this?
[00:16] <murmel> 2~
[00:16] <Jurilo> 1. https://i.imgur.com/YhaHA6i.png 2. https://i.imgur.com/NMJVMYf.png
[00:16] <tomreyn> Jurilo: generally, you should backups before you install a new OS. i hope you did. that said, I suggest you just give it a try. i *really* doubt that your windows installation will be overwritten.
[00:17] <murmel> 00:06 < Jurilo> murmel: unfortunately I can only select the disk on which windows is installed << this is what Jurilo said
[00:17] <tomreyn> oops, looks like i'm getting tired, sorry
[00:18] <murmel> no problem :)
[00:19] <tomreyn> Jurilo: can you also screenshot this screen where you can only select the disk windows is installed on?
[00:20] <tomreyn> unless you meant this one? https://i.imgur.com/nDa4Mhk.png
[00:21] <Jurilo> Before that I have this https://i.imgur.com/diIFhTQ.png
[00:22] <Jurilo> No, sorry I may be wrong, installer automatically tells me about the Window Boot Manager
[00:22] <Jurilo> I didn't select it before that
[00:23] <Jurilo> the point is when I choose LVM+encryption with option 'Erase disk and install Ubuntu', I can set password and click 'Install Now'
[00:23] <Jurilo> I don't know what's beyond that
[00:23] <Jurilo> maybe it'll allow me to sellect disk
[00:23] <Jurilo> but not 100% sure
[00:23] <tomreyn> i don't think it does
[00:24] <tomreyn> i'm just creating a clone of a windows vm to give this a try, but it'll take time.
[00:24] <murmel> gloin: which "window" was it again in evolution? calendar?
[00:25] <gloin> Mail
[00:25] <gloin> What I was seeing was a light widget bar, dark message list, dark message headers, dark message border, light message
[00:26] <arraybolt3[m]> Jurilo: The easiest way to keep from wiping the wrong disk would probably be to unplug everything but the disk you want Linux on.
[00:26] <murmel> gloin: for me everything is fine, except the headerbar :/
[00:26] <gloin> murmel: which theme?
[00:26] <gloin> light or?
[00:26] <Jurilo> arraybolt3[m]: Win is on nvme :(  I would need to get it out of motherboard
[00:26] <murmel> yaru-light
[00:26] <gloin> ah
[00:27] <gloin> As I said, whatever caused it on my system went away with the flatpak install.
[00:27] <arraybolt3[m]> Jurilo: NVMe drives just unscrew and pop right out.
[00:27] <murmel> gloin oO okay
[00:28]  * gloin shrugs
[00:29] <gloin> it's Friday afternoon here, why am I even pretending to work now :D
[00:29] <murmel> gloin: lucky you :) for me it's already after midnight
[00:29] <gloin> hah
[00:29] <gloin> get some rest
[00:29] <murmel> not yet
[00:37] <tomreyn> my experiment failed, i don't have a windows uefi installation.
[01:20] <goddard> finally figured out the source of the issue
[01:21] <goddard> it is entirely dependent on the CPU
[01:21] <goddard> if the cpu tries to cycle down too much then the eGPU displays suffer and so does everything else
[01:21] <goddard> i have it set to performance mode in gnome settings though
[01:21] <goddard> how can i stop linux or gnome or whatever from dropping my cpu too low
[01:21] <murmel> goddard: performance doesn't mean that the cpu doesn't downclock
[01:22] <sarnold> processor performance has way too many knobs grown over too many decades
[01:23] <goddard> murmel: i think its downclock is too low when you have an egpu connected
[01:24] <goddard> i wonder if something like this would help https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkYRpVEEIlg
[01:25] <murmel> goddard: yeah if i remember correctly you can set a min clock with that
[01:26] <sarnold> there's probably a dozen of those; one of them might even be the thing causing you trouble now :)
[01:26] <goddard> sarnold: haha ya you might be right it was perfect before attaching the eGPU
[01:26] <sarnold> look for tuned, thermald, gamemode, cpupower, tlp...
[01:27] <sarnold> goddard: it could be using the on-board graphics was enough to keep the cpu in higher-power states
[01:27] <goddard> ya
[01:28] <goddard> all i had to do was run Steam and everything was fixed
[01:28] <goddard> does Valve have some magic it does to the OS when it runs, or is it just a demanding app?
[01:28] <goddard> just downloading a game not even playing
[01:28] <murmel> goddard: it's just electron xD
[01:29] <goddard> it is?
[01:29] <murmel> ye
[01:29] <goddard> i thought it pre-dated electron
[01:29] <murmel> I was pretty sure, that steam is just a browser app, same with all the other launchers
[01:30] <murmel> goddard: especially since steam has a browser integrated (based on chromium)
[01:31] <goddard> Did it publish the code for its Steam Deck interface
[01:31] <goddard> i know they published lots of stuff
[01:32] <murmel> goddard: at least their github profile says no
[01:33] <sarnold> goddard: it's possible running steam runs gamemode
[01:34] <goddard> i was just looking it is installed
[01:34] <murmel> yeah but that's installed by default, so probably
[01:35] <goddard> its always installed by ubuntu desktop?
[01:35] <murmel> goddard: yes
[01:35] <goddard> oh
[01:36] <murmel> since 20.04 or something like that
[01:36] <goddard> its the little things you don't notice
[02:09] <InPhase> Has anyone seen or heard of any serious libc-bin 2.35 bugs?  Somehow my whole system hosed itself and refused to launch lightdm, and the only system change was I installed a pdf editor xournal, which picked up a set of packages:  https://bpa.st/DONQ  I think the only one on the list that should be able to impact lightdm's startup is libc-bin.
[02:10] <InPhase> The system still works fine from a usb boot.
[02:11] <tomreyn> which command generated the output in this paste?
[02:12] <tomreyn> and which ubuntu version is this?
[02:12] <InPhase> tomreyn: I extracted it from dpkg.log manually after booting into a usb system and mounting the drive.
[02:12] <InPhase> And it's xubuntu 22.04
[02:14] <tomreyn> InPhase: so you#re saying installing xournal caused libc-bin to be installed?
[02:15] <tomreyn> that would be strange because that's an essential package, which is installed by default
[02:15] <InPhase> I do not know if it was an install or an upgrade.  I don't see any clear indication of which it would have been in the dpkg.log
[02:15] <InPhase> But I would assume an upgrade.
[02:15] <tomreyn>  /var/log/apt/history.log would know
[02:16] <InPhase> Let me check for details there.
[02:17] <tomreyn> it's not unusual that you'd want to reboot after installing a patched libc-bin
[02:17] <InPhase> I rebooted simply because I went home from work in this case.
[02:18] <tomreyn> are there other pending updates when you    sudo apt update && sudo apt -f install && sudo apt upgrade  && sudo apt full-upgrade     ?
[02:20] <InPhase> This is the apt/history.log next to the dpkg.log for the same event.  https://bpa.st/LTTA
[02:20] <InPhase> There were other pending upgrades, which I attempted to upgrade to resolve it, but this did not repair it.
[02:22] <tomreyn> libc6-bin is 2.35-0ubuntu3 which matches for jammy
[02:22] <InPhase> Perhaps the dpkg.log syntax of "status installed" is just a deceptive phrasing, and it was only reporting a status after running the triggers?
[02:24] <tomreyn> no unpacking of libc-bin took place there, it was already installed in this version
[02:24] <tomreyn> "status installed" just means that that is its current status, it doesn't necessarily mean that it just reached this status
[02:25] <InPhase> Ah yes, thank you.  There is indeed not an unpacked line.
[02:25] <tomreyn> and there's no upgrade line for libc-bin in history.log apparently
[02:26] <tomreyn> there is also terminal.log which has more details on what apt actually did / asked dpkg to do
[02:26] <tomreyn> history.log is more the why did apt do so, but it can be misleading, when actions get cancelled
[02:28] <tomreyn> if you have 3rd party apt repositories, make sure they are actually compatible and maintained
[02:28] <tomreyn> make sure you have all update installed using the series of apt commands above
[02:29] <tomreyn> check for installed packages which wil not receive updates / security patches: apt list --installed | grep ',local]$'
[02:30] <tomreyn> to share your configured apt repositories:    sudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:30] <tomreyn> InPhase: ^
[02:33] <InPhase> tomreyn: I'm unable to do that, as I blundered earlier while working in a console-only tunnel, and broke it a lot worse.  So for now I can only see the files, and then I will reinstall on top.  But I was attempting to discern what went wrong first so as to not repeat it.
[02:33] <InPhase> I did in fact have the slack repository as a 3rd party though.
[02:34] <tomreyn> that would not be my primary suspect
[02:36] <InPhase> Is there an apt record which would show me where each installed package came from?
[02:37] <InPhase> I could search through it to see if the system was assaulted by a bad base package.
[02:40] <tomreyn> InPhase: no. you can only inspect what's installed now, what was apparently installed when (according to the apt + dpkg logs discussed above) and inspect the current state of which packages and versions are available from where.
[02:41] <InPhase> I see in the /var/lib/apt/lists/ for that repository that it contains no packages other than slack-desktop, so they did not replace any system packages.
[02:44] <tomreyn> you're seeing the *current* state of what's available from this repository there.
[02:48] <InPhase> Well the apt install that I suspect broke it, and the apt update I last did, were only about 2.5 hours apart.
[02:50] <InPhase> I also did not apt update before the install.  So if it were them they would have had to put the bad thing in 27-some hours previously, and then remove it within 2.5 hours of me doing the install.  Possible, but it seems unlikely as an explanation.
[02:53] <tomreyn> InPhase: you may also wantto review the system logs (systemd journal) and what was logged when lightdm failed to start.
[02:54] <InPhase> tomreyn: I did hunt through those a good bit, but all it revealed was that X crashed.
[02:54] <tomreyn> my guess is that you just didn't reboot after installing an update to some essential package which required it.
[02:54] <InPhase> I had rebooted that morning when I got to work, and the last upgrade was an automatic security upgrade the previous day.  So it made it through a prior upgrade.
[02:55] <InPhase> s/that morning/this morning/
[02:55] <tomreyn> hmm, then maybe broken file system / disk / ram
[02:56] <tomreyn> but you should see indications on thos in the system logs
[02:56]  * tomreyn off, good luck!
[02:56] <InPhase> Those all seem pretty stable.  I just did a full disk backup.
[02:57] <InPhase> Since the problem that is, running it from the usb system.
[02:58] <InPhase> Thanks for the efforts tomreyn.  If anyone else has other theories, please let me know.
[03:00] <jhutchins> InPhase: You might try un-installing the viewer and it's dependencies.
[03:01] <jhutchins> InPhase: I suppose it's possible that the viewer is loading some background component that's killing your GUI.
[03:01] <jhutchins> InPhase: What pdf viewer was it, from what source?
[03:01] <InPhase> xournal
[03:02] <jhutchins> !info xournal
[03:02] <jhutchins> That sounds like something that might run a widget for the panel or something like that.
[03:03] <jhutchins> InPhase: You should be able to boot to rescue/single mode without the GUI, poke around a bit there.
[03:03] <InPhase> Well it was lightdm itself that failed to launch.  Panels should not open at that stage.
[03:04] <jhutchins> True.
[03:05] <jhutchins> I see logs in /var/log/lightdm/
[03:13] <mattf_> i am trying to use godot over vnc and i got this error: Your system does not support XInput 2. Please upgrade your distribution.
[03:14] <mattf_> if i run xinput i get: X input extension not available.
[04:28] <enigma9o7[m]> both ends ubuntu?
[06:17] <InPhase> So I managed to get back into my system and force lightdm to come up by booting into root mode, doing "systemctl start lightdm", and then continuing with the boot process.  So X works, lightdm works, and systemd seems to be failing to start it the normal way?
[06:17] <InPhase> I'm confused about what is going wrong here.
[06:30] <InPhase> Although I suppose lightdm is still very wonky.  It does not lock with light-locker without terminating at unlock, and even just doing ctrl-alt-f1 and back to f7 crashes lightdm and it returns to the login screen.
[07:16] <InPhase> Well, that was a spectacular waste of 9 hours.  After I got far enough down the logic path to do the repair, I resolved it by getting rid of lightdm entirely and just using sddm.  I don't know how that could have gotten into such a bad state, but at least 9 hours of prodding at it later my system functions properly again.
[08:09] <wizard1> hi
[08:09] <wizard1> i have question
[08:09] <wizard1> can any body answer me
[08:09] <ducasse> !ask
[08:10] <wizard1> i have questions about tor
[08:10] <wizard1> browser
[08:10] <wizard1> i open tor and it works
[08:10] <wizard1> right?
[08:10] <wizard1> then
[08:10] <wizard1> are you there?
[08:11] <wizard1> i wana connect tor browser to my whole system
[08:12] <ogra> you probably want to ask in a tor related channel then ...
[08:12] <ogra> !alis
[08:12] <wizard1> i go to setting<network<networkproxy
[08:12] <wizard1> yeah but can you answer me
[08:12] <wizard1> ?
[08:13] <Unit193> For tor and tor browser, you generally want #tor on OFTC.
[08:13] <ogra> no, tor is not part of ubuntu ...
[08:13] <wizard1> yeah
[08:13] <wizard1> thanks
[08:13] <wizard1> by
[08:13] <ogra> good luck
[08:13] <ogra> bah
[08:22] <Unit193> Welp, looks like he never made it...
[08:59] <PowaBanga> quelqu'un saurait-il m'aider à props de vim ?
[08:59] <PowaBanga> j'essaye d'installer des plugin
[09:00] <ice9> I installed ubuntu 22.04 on top of windows 11 but it still only boots into windows right a way, any idea?
[09:00] <PowaBanga> du coup je vais dans mon /etc/vim/vimrc, et j'ajoute cette ligne : `Plugin 'nathanaelkane/vim-indent-guides'`
[09:00] <PowaBanga> on I am on english chan sorry
[09:02] <notwez> PowaBanga: Lets English
[09:02] <notwez> Proper English, like spelling gaol as gaol instead of jail.
[09:02] <PowaBanga> yes sorry, i was in the wrong channel
[10:09] <guest-je89jr> W
[10:09] <guest-je89jr> SIEMA
[10:09] <guest-je89jr> JEBAC DIA
[10:09] <guest-je89jr> DISA
[10:27] <tomreyn> ice9: you installed ubuntu while booting in bios mode, but windows is installed in uefi mode
[10:28] <ice9> tomreyn, no, I'm using UEFI mode in both cases
[10:31] <tomreyn> ice9: does the grub menu show, though? do you get into the grub CLI when you hit escape repeatedly during boot?
[10:32] <ice9> tomreyn, no, it only loads windows immediately
[10:32] <tomreyn> do you select 'ubuntu' for the system to boot from the boot menu?
[10:32] <ice9> no grub shown at all
[10:34] <tomreyn> i assume that on 22.04, Ubuntu may no longer set grub as the default bootloader when installing alongside Windows, i.e. you'll need to use the uefi/bios provided boot menu to choose what to boot into
[10:35] <Jeremy31> Some manufacturers don't allow Linux to change the uefi boot order
[10:44] <ledeni> ice9, you should see grub menu if you press shift button on boot
[10:45] <webchat74> hi guys, i've installed the ubuntu 22.04 server from scratch but when i try to run "apt-get uprade" it will return
[10:46] <webchat74> https://paste.debian.net/plain/1243778
[10:46] <webchat74> i've also tried to switch to main archive.ubuntu.com and it return the same stuff, any tips to solve it?
[10:47] <webchat74> it seems a hash mismatch on the apt repo
[10:52] <tomreyn> webchat74: have you tried to do what the message suggests?
[10:53] <tomreyn> "maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing"
[10:54] <webchat74> tomreyn yes and also "rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*" or "apt-get clean"
[10:54] <webchat74> as suggested from stackoverflow
[10:56] <KBar> Reread the command you issued. You might have mistyped that command
[10:56] <KBar> `rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists *` would have deleted other important files
[10:57] <KBar> that is, look in your command history and make sure you didn't put an extra space before the asterisk
[10:57] <tomreyn> ^ do not run this command
[10:58] <KBar> yeah, as a rule of thumb: never run rm -rf in such directories
[10:58] <webchat74> damn
[10:58] <KBar> if the file was written there with extra priviliges, then its there for a reason
[10:58] <webchat74> i've rechecked the dirs and it seems recreated without any issue
[10:58] <tomreyn> KBar: it's better not to type commands here which can cause data loss, even when you explain, in context, how it's bad to run those
[10:59] <KBar> tomreyn: absolutely agreed, sorry for that. but to be fair, i wasn't the one who suggested so...
[10:59] <tomreyn> there was originally no blank space before the asterisk ;)
[11:00] <KBar> still a destructive command
[11:00] <tomreyn> yes
[11:02] <tomreyn> webchat74: you can run this whole line, or the commands one by one (they are seperated by ";") to gather information in /tmp/aptlog, then post it online:    sudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} >>/tmp/aptlog 2>&1; sudo apt-get -y update >>/tmp/aptlog 2>&1; apt-cache policy >>/tmp/aptlog 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade >>/tmp/aptlog 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog
[11:03] <tomreyn> webchat74: don't try to type copy this, it will most likley go wrong
[11:04] <tomreyn> webchat74: sorry, there was a typo in there, use this: sudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} >>/tmp/aptlog 2>&1; sudo apt-get -y update >>/tmp/aptlog 2>&1; apt-cache policy >>/tmp/aptlog 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade >>/tmp/aptlog 2>&1; nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog
[11:08] <iomari891> greetings, WHy is there no deadsnakes repo for 21.10?
[11:09] <tomreyn> iomari891: are you referring to a PPA?
[11:09] <tomreyn> !ppa | iomari891
[11:10] <tomreyn> webchat74: how are you doing, need any more help with this?
[11:11] <iomari891> yes
[11:14] <tomreyn> iomari891: did you read the "PPA description" at https://launchpad.net/~deadsnakes/+archive/ubuntu/ppa ?
[11:16] <tomreyn> iomari891: and are you aware that 21.10 will reach end of life next month?
[11:18] <iomari891> tomreyn: I'm updating next week but I need python 3.8 immediately and I'm trying to avoid having to install it from a tarball. I will if I have to but I really don't want to.
[11:20] <iomari891> I guess I'll wait until I upgrade next week. Thanks
[11:21] <tomreyn> iomari891: or use a 20.04 chroot, container or VM
[11:46] <webchat74> tomreyn sry for the delay, i'm trying it now
[11:49] <webchat74> https://termbin.com/mo8u
[11:50] <tomreyn> webchat74: no rush. it's just that people with nicknames starting with "webchat" tend to just disconnect miraculously, so i was trying to make sure you didn't miss the latest replies.
[11:51] <webchat74> sure np
[11:51] <tomreyn> webchat74: you have 45 pending updates, try installing those first
[11:52] <webchat74> ok
[11:53] <clarkk> When do the .save files get generated in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory?
[11:54] <tomreyn> webchat74: actually, the warnings about the hash mismatch seems to already be gone, so  i guess it was just a mirror synch in progress.
[11:55] <tomreyn> clarkk: during release upgrades, i think. possibly also by the GUI.
[11:58] <clarkk> tomreyn, are they important in order to get packages?
[11:59] <tomreyn> clarkk: "the GUI" being /usr/bin/software-properties-*    - but potentially also one of the other graphical apt frontends for software updates and installations
[11:59] <tomreyn> clarkk: those are just 'backup' copies, in case you or the software makes a mistake while editing them
[11:59] <clarkk> ah, ok. Thanks!
[12:00] <tomreyn> with release upgrades, it helps you compare your current (updated, to the new release codename) version of this .list file to the previous (.save) one
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:45] <webchat74> tomreyn i've updated all the packages and i've the same issue https://termbin.com/9gea
[12:46] <webchat74> more info here: https://paste.debian.net/1243784/
[12:49] <pycurious> Yesterday one of my drives got corrupted on an ec2 instance. For some reason, that also emptied out /etc/resolve.conf (which was linked to stub-resolv.conf). I tried to put "nameservers" in there, but when I boot and do sudo -i, I get sudo: unable to resolve host ip-11-11-6-17: Name or service not known — any ideas on how to fix my name resolution?
[12:49] <tomreyn> webchat74: hmm, and if you use archive.ubuntu.com rather than it.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[12:51] <pycurious> found the solution - needed an entry in /etc/hosts
[12:52] <webchat74> tomreyn already tried, that pastebin is based by archive.ubuntu.com not "IT....."
[12:54] <tomreyn> webchat74: whoops, sorry.
[12:55] <webchat74> np it can be a bug?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> pycurious, don't forget /etc/hostname as well
[13:16] <descent1> is there a 3d game creation software in ubuntu? something like unity maybe
[13:17] <PeGaSuS> I'm going nuts. I've requested a dedicated server from OVH, from their Eco branch. supposedly it has 3x2TB disks, but `df -h` shows /dev/md3 with only 1.8TB.. what am I missing?
[13:18] <ravage> the difference between Terabyte (TB) and Tebibyte (TiB)
[13:25] <ravage> and if its really 3x2TB i would check if they are all part of the raid
[13:25] <webchat74> tomreyn the only solution for now download manually  linux-firmware_20220329.git681281e4-0ubuntu1_all.deb and install it
[13:31] <superkuh> Hi. Is there a specific channel for questions about Snaps and snapd? I am curious about how separate snap containers can use the same shared library file.
[13:32] <superkuh> Do separate snaps actually load files from within other snaps?
[13:32] <superkuh> Like, if libwhatever.so is in the GNOME snap, does Unrelated Snap package actually oad the libwhatever.so from within the GNOME snap file on disk?
[13:33] <superkuh> I was under the impression that every snap had it's own entire environment inside.
[13:33] <superkuh> But I've been told that's wrong.
[13:36] <ravage> superkuh, #snappy
[13:37] <superkuh> Thanks.
[13:48] <tomreyn> descent1: godot3
[13:48] <descent1> ah coolio
[14:18] <Guest59> Tak co vy curaci
[14:19] <Guest59> Kterej curacek mi poradí jak mám udělat web server
[14:19] <leftyfb> !ck | Guest59
[14:19] <tomreyn> !cz
[14:20] <leftyfb> it's early for me :)
[14:20] <tomreyn> check
[14:20] <tomreyn> i mean czech
[14:21] <ActionMan> Hi. Running Ubuntu server 20.04 LTS (headless). When signing in it shows "Usage of /:   82.3% of 28.73GB" which, I think, is much higher than it was. Here's that info on pastebin: https://pastebin.com/ChJSrbxZ
[14:21] <Guest59> Polib mi prdel
[14:21] <tomreyn> !pl | Guest59
[14:22] <leftyfb> ActionMan: sudo ncdu /
[14:22] <ActionMan> df -h gets me this https://pastebin.com/KkTiiiiT
[14:22] <ActionMan> ok leftyfb
[14:23] <leftyfb> ActionMan: you might have to install ncdu
[14:23] <PeGaSuS> damn. I quit. OVH is such a pain. I don't understand RAID and I don't know what to do :/
[14:24] <tomreyn> PeGaSuS: you can get support with ubuntu here and with ovh in #ovh (to a degree). but it's good to first read up on concepts such as RAID if you're going to use those.
[14:25] <ravage> PeGaSuS, this is really the wrong channel but my guess it that they do a RAID1 with 2 SSDs and just leave the 3rd untouched. cat /proc/mdstat
[14:26] <leftyfb> or contact OVH for support with their services
[14:26] <ActionMan> OK I installed and ran sudo ncdu /  ----> https://pastebin.com/XQJgwUXZ
[14:28] <ActionMan> I had been looking at this as a possible solution https://bit.ly/3O6AW6X
[14:32] <leftyfb> ActionMan: you only have a 30G partition with 4GB swap. You're down to about 25G for the entire OS, you're going to run out of space if you don't constantly keep it clean and don't save a lot of files
[14:33] <ActionMan> it's a small ssd drive ... probably 30gb
[14:34] <tomreyn> ActionMan: you seem to have files in /mnt (or subdirectories) which are stored on the / file system, so not on other file systems mounted there, which is an unusual situation.
[14:34] <leftyfb> tomreyn: it's definitely mounted
[14:34] <tomreyn> oh wait this is ncdu, ignore this.
[14:35] <tomreyn> << not awake either
[14:35] <leftyfb> ActionMan: there's not much you can do. Stick /home on another drive. That's about it. But you're still going to need to clean up old package caches and linux kernels and keep an eye on it
[14:37] <tomreyn> if the goal is to determine what's stored where on the / file system only, you should be running   sudo ncdu -x /
[14:38] <ActionMan> I keep it pretty clean there are only two kernels I believe
[14:40] <tomreyn> maybe you can delete some old snap versions
[14:40] <tomreyn> and clear the snap cache
[14:40] <tomreyn> but that would only help temporarily
[14:42] <ActionMan> right
[14:43] <ActionMan>    /var/lib/snapd/snaps has 463MB which isn't really enough to cause a problem
[14:47] <PeGaSuS> my `fdisk -l` and `cat /proc/mdstat` output: https://0bin.xyz/?ca4cef197a4d7cc9#4pjNbahdrJWxcgFJbfB3GHiSGt3KB3Y587cr4e6MKQvC
[14:49] <tomreyn> ActionMan: so your goal is to do what exactly? have less space allocated on / ? i have a minimal ubuntu server installation with a total disk usage of 3.9 GB according to ncdu. but it will depend on what you have installed, of course.
[14:50] <ActionMan> no... maybe it's too early for me as well. when I saw this Usage of /:   82.3% of 28.73GB I thought it meant the drive was almost full and now I'm realizing all that means is that is the percentage of the drive allocated to /
[14:50] <ActionMan> please correct me
[14:51] <ActionMan> I was fairly certain that % used to be much lower
[14:51] <PeGaSuS> it is explicit: you're currently using 82.3% of your entire disk space which is 28.73GB
[14:52] <ActionMan> ok
[14:53] <murmel> PeGaSuS: no its 82.3% of 28.73 not 82.3% is 28.73
 if the goal is to determine what's stored where on the / file system only, you should be running   sudo ncdu -x /
[14:55] <PeGaSuS> erm. that's what I said, I think?
[14:55] <PeGaSuS> probably some lack of punctuation
[14:57] <murmel> PeGaSuS: ahh, sorry, I misunderstood your sentence :x
[14:57] <PeGaSuS> murmel: no worries. since I'm not a native english speaker I may make mistakes :D
[15:01] <ActionMan> I resized the logical volume and then resized the file system and it seems to have fixed the problem as per here: https://pastebin.com/JnAdwJpu
[15:01] <ActionMan> Thank you for your time.
[15:03] <ActionMan> Sorry I clicked out by mistake.
[15:03] <ActionMan> Anyway, things seem back to normal.
[15:03] <centHOGG> good job!
[15:04] <ravage> PeGaSuS, see if their interface offers a RAID5 install. the current setup is not ideal really
[15:04] <ActionMan> FWIW I also cleaned up snap but that was minor.
[15:05] <centHOGG> snap = free crossover linux
[15:10] <PeGaSuS> ravage: unfortunately seems I'm stuck with a RAID1 setup.
[15:11] <ravage> maybe open a support ticket then.
[15:14] <PeGaSuS> opened a support ticket relatd to IPv6 almost 3 days ago and got no answer. they're not very good at support. but their prices are kinda cheap
[15:14] <ravage> well. there may be a relation here :)
[15:16] <riskyexpert> hello does anyone here use docker and iptables I need some help with an ubuntu server
[15:46] <ActionMan> full disclosure: I had also mistakenly rsynced some folders to the SSD drive with the OS instead of the back up drives - which, apparently, weren't mounted when I ran the command. So I cleaned that up as well.
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[15:58] <oerheks> !ot | Guest5945
[15:59] <Maik> that's not even considered as offtopic but spamming/trolling
[16:02] <iomari891> how can I have python3.7.13 and 3.7.7 installed at the same time?
[16:05] <oerheks> iomari891, i would not want to try that, use a vm if you need that other version
[16:06] <oerheks> python is too deep integrated, changing and changing back can be interesting.
[16:07] <ravage> lxd is a good way to keep things separated
[16:13] <iomari891> oerheks: thanks
[16:15] <iomari891> oerheks: actualy, it's only for virtual environment. Is that still a risk?
[16:18] <tomreyn> my question would rather be: what is *so* version specific that you actually need to?
[16:20] <tomreyn> there is this deadsnakes PPA, which can provide additional python versions on specific ubuntu releases: https://launchpad.net/~deadsnakes/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[16:23] <tomreyn> i would not recommend replacing or mixing with the system level python installation on any ubuntu release. but you can use /usr/local if you don't add it to PATH, or any of the common compartmentalization or containerization approaches usually recommended by python and available on ubuntu.
[16:28] <iomari891> My real need is venv. I already have 3.7.13 but I also need 3.7.7.
[16:29] <murmel> iomari891: still doesn't explain why you need 2 explicit subversions
[16:30] <oerheks> 3.7.7 is not in deadsnakes
[16:30] <oerheks> so, good luck with a venv, my advise is a VM, kvm or others
[16:32] <murmel> yeah if really needed I would probably go with a toolbox/distrobox/lxd/kvm environment, so you can still have easy access to your ~ or the likes
[16:33] <iomari891> oerheks: just spoke to client. THey don't need 3.7.13 so it's all cool.
[16:33] <iomari891> thanks all
[17:03] <iomari891> out of curiousity, if you reach the eol of 21.10, is there any way to upgrade?
[17:04] <murmel> iomari891: yes
[17:04] <murmel> !eolupgrade
[17:05] <iomari891> murmel: thanks
[19:16] <sicfus> hello
[19:33] <Chalky> Can someone point me to site that can assist me install my AC12000 wifi dongle?
[19:39] <Guest446> hi
[19:39] <Guest446> how to fix that error?
[19:39] <Guest446> Could not load dynamic library 'libcudart.so.11.0'; dlerror: libcudart.so.11.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:39] <Guest446> im on ubuntu 22.04
[19:39] <Guest446> apt install nvidia-cuda-toolkit ?
[19:40] <Guest446> i look here: https://dominoc925.blogspot.com/2021/08/how-to-install-cuda-11-on-ubuntu-2004.html
[19:40] <Guest446> but that is not working
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> Guest446: i usualy reccomed linuxconfig tutorials; https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-cuda-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> Chalky: for AC wifi chipsets, you might wanna browse around the current/recent bug list to see if its been reported yet
[19:57] <Chalky> Sorted thanks !
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> Chalky: what was the culprit?
[19:59] <Chalky> The drive had been updated from the one I was first refered too.
[20:41] <phox_> Hi! I'm trying to connect a microphone with a 3.5mm connector to the headset jack on my laptop. The system seems to think it's headphones. How can I tell Ubuntu it's a microphone?
[20:42] <oerheks> headset jack?
[20:43] <oerheks> not
[20:43] <oerheks> only the mic jack works
[20:43] <oerheks> and if it is combined, you need an adapter
[20:43] <phox_> oerheks, Hm ok. But the symbol on the output shows a headsit with microphone? :P Ok maybe it doesn't work.
[20:45] <oerheks> https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/headset-splitter-adapter-hoofdtelefoon-microfoon-3-5-mm-jack/9300000001645860/
[20:46] <phox_> oerheks, thanks :) Maybe i'll get one of those then. Do you think one from usb to headset+microphone would work as well?
[20:49] <oerheks> usb mic is prefferred, that analog mic is a little sensitive
[20:49] <oerheks> touch the wire and you will notice
[22:01] <noarb> When manually making network adjustments in initramfs (like `ip addr add ...`), do these interfaces need to be "flushed" or reset before init execs the /sbin/init on the new root filesystem? Is bringing an interface down enough to clear its configuration?
[22:30] <Luc1f3r> is there anybody in here?
[22:31] <murmel> yes, but as long as you don't ask anything, nobody can answer you Luc1f3r
[22:33] <Luc1f3r> thanks, it's been milennium since I use mirc... xD
[22:40] <circuitbone> still the same, lots of less netsplits :)
[22:43] <tidux> how do I turn off NLA for gnome-remote-desktop in 22.04 from the shell?
[22:43] <tidux> I have a remote system I can't get into and the grdctl documentation is worse than useless, even "help/--help" doesn't work
[22:44] <tidux> I have an SSH session on the box with full sudo access, but I need to remote-control an existing GNOME Wayland session via RDP
[23:05] <tomreyn> tidux: fwiw, i've been able to connect to the ubuntu 22.04/wayland session using, on the same host:   /usr/bin/wlfreerdp /cert:ignore /u:x /d: /p:x /v:<IP_ADDRESS>
[23:06] <tomreyn> i'm not sure whether / how this will help you with ssh, though
[23:07] <tidux> tomreyn: it ended up being an upstream bug in gnome-remote-desktop https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-remote-desktop/-/issues/16
[23:08] <tomreyn> there still seem to be a bunch around GRD
[23:09] <tomreyn> the other day i made the service segfault by connecting (but could not reproduce it after installing debug symbols)
[23:10] <tidux> aaah heisenbugs
[23:14] <Selcuk_Ubuntu22> hello guys
[23:33] <rascal> hello


[00:03] <jimbaker> pretty cool to see the odometer roll over
[00:03] <SpamapS> jimbaker: unless the odometer explodes
[00:03]  * SpamapS takes cover for the next 25 minutes
[00:47] <_mup_> Bug #1000007 was filed: juju add-relations should raise a StateChange error instead of Internaltopologyerror <juju:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1000007 >
[02:19] <nathwill> so is maintainer strictly an email, or will it take the standard: First Last<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:22] <nathwill> oh nm... just saw the docs update
[03:39] <imbrandon> #100000 was well played :)
[03:39] <_mup_> Bug #100000: There are still too many bug reports <lp-bugs> <Launchpad itself:Invalid> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/100000 >
[03:39] <imbrandon> oops
[03:39] <imbrandon> the right one
[03:39] <imbrandon> :)
[03:54] <SpamapS> imbrandon: bug #1000000 was also well played :)
[03:54] <_mup_> Bug #1000000: For every bug on Launchpad, 67 iPads are sold <Edubuntu:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1000000 >
[03:54] <imbrandon> yea thats what i ment to link :)
[03:55] <SpamapS> well the one linked was actually nicely done too :)
[03:55] <imbrandon> yea
[03:55] <imbrandon> hehe
[03:55] <SpamapS> imbrandon: you done with turbo-drupal yet?
[03:55] <imbrandon> actually i was testing it earlier
[03:55] <SpamapS> imbrandon: I was wondering something actually
[03:55] <imbrandon> it still has 1 or 2 bugs, i thought i was done
[03:56] <SpamapS> imbrandon: there's a PPA with PHP 5.4 for precise..
[03:56] <vrturbo> hi all, looking for a little help with juju and the ubuntu openstack deployment
[03:56] <SpamapS> imbrandon: would be cool to see if it improves the performance :)
[03:56] <imbrandon> SpamapS: what one, i havent dfound one that works well
[03:56] <SpamapS> vrturbo: we can try, though I don't know if there are any maas experts here.
[03:56] <imbrandon> yea 5.4 is generally 30% faster
[03:56] <SpamapS> imbrandon: Ondrej Sury's is good
[03:56] <imbrandon> oh no apc in that one
[03:56] <vrturbo> Ok I followed the MAAS juju install from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuCloudInfrastructure
[03:56] <imbrandon> apc segfaults
[03:57] <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5
[03:57] <SpamapS> imbrandon: that one?
[03:57] <imbrandon> yea i tried that one
[03:57] <imbrandon> all works but apc segfaults
[03:57] <SpamapS> imbrandon: weird. Well I'll be merging 5.4.3 into quantal soon
[03:57] <vrturbo> all servers install it's when I added the relations via juju that things broke
[03:57] <imbrandon> nice, maybe we can -backports
[03:58] <SpamapS> vrturbo: how did things break?
[03:58] <SpamapS> imbrandon: no, the rdeps are too many
[03:58] <imbrandon> doh
[03:58] <SpamapS> imbrandon: you'd have to smoke test everything that Depends: php5
[03:58] <SpamapS> at last count it was 120 or so packages
[03:58] <imbrandon> yea but with 5 years it may be worth the extra effort
[03:59] <imbrandon> no rush but a goal
[03:59] <vrturbo>  relation-errors: shared-db: - mysql
[03:59] <SpamapS> imbrandon: you have to test them all *every* time you upload
[03:59] <imbrandon> hrm yea , smoke tests can be automated tho
[03:59] <SpamapS> vrturbo: ok, if you go to the unit with the errors you should have the error logged in /var/lib/juju/units/servicename-0/charm.log
[03:59] <vrturbo> that pointed me too some error with DB
[04:00] <SpamapS> imbrandon: that would be an *epic* win
[04:00] <imbrandon> just a thought anyhow
[04:00] <imbrandon> yea
[04:00] <imbrandon> definately
[04:00] <SpamapS> imbrandon: I'd get that into the daily jenkins QA for Ubuntu if you did that. :)
[04:00] <imbrandon> i'll work twords it , see how far i can get
[04:01] <imbrandon> good thing is the way 5.4 breaks things is pretty consistant
[04:01] <vrturbo> on the node running the service or the node I ran the juju command from ?
[04:02] <imbrandon> but yea i *thought* the super drupal one was done, but i ran into a few snags, i'd say about 3 more hours of work, so like 1 to 1.5 days
[04:04] <SpamapS> vrturbo: on the node running the service
[04:04] <SpamapS> vrturbo: juju ssh servicename/0 should work :)
[04:05] <SpamapS> vrturbo: you can also do 'juju debug-hooks servicename/0' and then 'juju resolved --retry servicename shared-db' to get a chance to re-run the hook in a terminal window manually
[04:05] <SpamapS> vrturbo: btw, which service has the error?
[04:05] <SpamapS> vrturbo: would be simplest if you just did 'juju status | pastebinit' btw :)
[04:05] <vrturbo> mysql didn't create correctly
[04:06] <vrturbo> so keystone, then nove, glance etc
[04:06] <vrturbo> just looking at the log now
[04:06] <imbrandon> vrturbo: trying to contrain it to micro ? heh
[04:06] <SpamapS> vrturbo: ah so everybody got errors?
[04:07] <vrturbo> yeah, I logged into mysql this morning to try and debug and the databases were there
[04:07] <vrturbo> but no tables
[04:08] <SpamapS> vrturbo: so, nothing in the charm.logs then?
[04:08] <vrturbo> running a debug on the relation of mysql and cloudcontroler showed the below
[04:09] <vrturbo> hook.output ERROR: 2012-05-15 02:17:46 CRITICAL nova [-] (OperationalError) (1044, "Access denied for user 'nova'@'' to database 'nova'") None None
[04:09] <vrturbo> so I tried to login directly
[04:09] <vrturbo> via mysql
[04:11] <vrturbo> and the nova and keystone users couldn't login to mysql, changing the grant permissions fix that, the the db sync on the services created the DB structure
[04:11] <vrturbo> but I think that something broke between mysql and keystone right at the start, I"m still looking at the logs
[04:17] <imbrandon> mmmm more charming music , err music to charm to :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX1wPLjPhlc
[04:17] <imbrandon> i should put out a charmers itunes playlist :)
[04:20] <SpamapS> vrturbo: right, mysql should be granting those users before sending them back to nova
[04:21] <vrturbo> yeah I seen a similar error in keystone
[04:21] <vrturbo> just trying the hook debug you recommended
[04:23] <vrturbo> juju resolved --retry keystone/0 shared-db
[04:24] <vrturbo> Marked unit 'keystone/0' relation 'shared-db' as resolved
[04:24] <vrturbo> 'resolved' command finished successfully
[04:24] <vrturbo> the debug didn't show much
[04:24] <vrturbo> 'juju debug-hooks keystone/0' didn't show much
[04:26] <vrturbo> keystone and shared db look to be ok now but what did the command do ?
[04:26] <vrturbo> juju resolved --retry keystone/0 shared-db ?
[04:26] <hazmat> its specifies a relation on a unit to repair
[04:28] <_mup_> juju/proposed-support r485 committed by<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:28] <_mup_> proposed pocket support
[04:30] <SpamapS> vrturbo: its not going to show much, its going to open up a tmux session and a new window for each hook ...
[04:31] <SpamapS> vrturbo: at the bottom you should see something like shared-db-relation-changed .. which is telling you that its time to run hooks/shared-db-relation-changed (if it exists) .. this gives you a chance to run the hook with a debugger/logs/strace/etc.
[04:31] <SpamapS> hazmat: debug-hooks is really poorly documented. We need screenshots actually.
[04:32] <_mup_> juju/proposed-support r486 committed by<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:32] <_mup_> use proposed option when configuring cloud-init
[04:32] <hazmat> +1 screenshots would help
[04:32] <hazmat> its confusing till its understood
[04:35] <imbrandon> btw SpamapS i got to spend ALL day sat, chillin with TSA officers at SFO, not by choice, made it into Kansas City at 2am ( should have landed at , ohh , 330pm local )
[04:35] <imbrandon> heh
[04:36] <ajmitch> imbrandon: lucky you!
[04:36] <imbrandon> yea
[04:36] <SpamapS> imbrandon: they didn't like the cut of your jib?
[04:37] <imbrandon> heh, never really explained why, just held me for a bit
[04:38] <nathwill> imbrandon, you wear a beard? they're beard bigots
[04:38] <imbrandon> heh, well a 5 day beard :)
[04:38] <nathwill> see
[04:39] <imbrandon> or a goatee , wouldent really call that a beard anyhow, more just to cover the scar from 18 stiches on my chin :)
[04:41] <imbrandon> mmm ok, more caffeine, cant sleep so i might as well roll with it and get some work done
[04:41] <imbrandon> brb
[04:43] <SpamapS> I have a chin beard
[04:43] <SpamapS> never been detained
[04:44] <imbrandon> yea that was the first time i have, flown countless times
[04:46] <vrturbo> not sure why glance would say relation to keystone id ok when the other way around it shows an error
[04:47] <hazmat> i think i've gotten it twice.. once for carrying vitamins in my carryon (clearly bomb material).. and the other for wearing baggy pants, which they couldn't see through with their fancy machine
[04:47] <imbrandon> nice
[04:48] <vrturbo> keystone/0:  agent-state: started  relation-errors: identity-service: - glance - nova-cloud-controller
[04:48] <hazmat> SpamapS, they never detain DDs ;-)
[04:49] <imbrandon> :)
[04:52] <vrturbo> how can I remove the service and reinstall it via juju ?
[04:52] <vrturbo> I want to try blow away the mysql and keystone and reinstall them
[04:54] <imbrandon> vrturbo: should be able to destroy-service service/N
[04:55] <imbrandon> then terminate machine for those machines
[04:55] <imbrandon> then just juju deploy again
[04:55] <vrturbo> what does the teminate machine do ?reinstall ?
[04:56] <imbrandon> totally wipes the machine
[04:56] <imbrandon> if its ec2 it terminates them and spins a new one up
[04:57] <imbrandon> not sure on other providers, but the equiv
[04:57] <vrturbo> ok I'm using MAAS but I'll give it a try
[04:57] <imbrandon> yea likely a reinstall then
[05:12] <imbrandon> SpamapS: looks like the debian php pkg team may have worked out the php-apc segfault
[05:12] <imbrandon> i'm trying it again now, but there was an update a day or so before uds that seems to have fixed it maybe
[05:12] <imbrandon> that i havent tried yet
[05:17] <imbrandon> nice, yea segfault averted now, time to try it out on some real world stories
[05:20] <ajmitch> damn, juju filled up my disk again
[05:21] <imbrandon> wow
[05:21] <imbrandon> small disk or bug ?
[05:21] <ajmitch> bug, machine-agent.log goes out of control
[05:21] <imbrandon> ahh
[05:21] <ajmitch> it's a small disk (SSD) as well, which doesn't help
[05:22] <imbrandon> true, combo ko
[05:22] <ajmitch> https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/958312 is the bug afaik
[05:22] <_mup_> Bug #958312: Change zk logging configuration <juju:Fix Released by hazmat> <juju (Ubuntu):Fix Released> <juju (Ubuntu Precise):Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/958312 >
[05:23] <hazmat> SpamapS, thanks
[05:23] <hazmat> doh.. oh not released
[05:23] <hazmat> ajmitch, destroy-environment on local providers
[05:23] <hazmat> before rebooting
[05:24] <hazmat> or after rebooting
[05:24] <ajmitch> yeah I'll need to remember to do that
[05:24] <hazmat> is the workaround to that fix is merged, or use the ppa
[05:24] <hazmat> er. its merged not released though
[05:24] <hazmat> it should get SRU'd
[05:24] <hazmat> SpamapS, pretty please
[05:24]  * ajmitch hopes so :)
[05:27] <imbrandon> hrm i've never written this kinda tests before , this may be a learning experince in itself
[05:32] <imbrandon> SpamapS: oh btw after seeing the MBA in action i'm headed to the Apple store today when they open to get me one, gonna replace both that POS i dragged along and my MBP ( destined for craigslist )
[06:20] <vrturbo> still a problem after I redeploy mysql and keystone
[06:20] <vrturbo> 2012-05-16 02:07:22,975: unit.relation.lifecycle@WARNING: Error in shared-db-relation-changed hook: Error processing '/var/lib/juju/units/keystone-1/ch
[06:21] <vrturbo> keystoneclient.exceptions.ClientException: An unexpected error prevented the server from fulfilling your request.
[06:22] <vrturbo> (OperationalError) (1044, "Access denied for user 'keystone'@'' to database 'keystone'") None None (HTTP 500)
[06:23] <vrturbo> so database issue with de-relate scritp
[06:23] <vrturbo> should I be worried about this " Hook does not exist, skipping /var/lib/juju/units/keystone-1/charm/hooks/config-changed"
[06:34] <ihashacks> "Bootstrap aborted because file storage is not writable: The supplied storage credentials were not accepted by the server"
[06:35] <ihashacks> ... when trying to use with MaaS: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/Juju
[07:02] <imbrandon> SpamapS: if you want a quick an easy one to rung the prom bell for, https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+bug/1000088 is just a slight variation on the newrelic-php charm for the sysmond
[07:02] <_mup_> Bug #1000088: charm needed: newrelic sysmond <new-charm> <Juju Charms Collection:Confirmed for imbrandon> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1000088 >
[07:11] <vrturbo> looks like my issue was a problem with the .local domain
[07:12] <vrturbo> I put on a .com domain onto the nodes via the MAAS server and the db-relation between keypoint and mysql works
[07:16] <imbrandon> nice
[07:29] <vrturbo> alright all, my work day is over, home time, thanks for you help
[07:58] <imbrandon> SpamapS: hrm i might have opened a can of worms with this php testing BUT i think one that may turn into something much larger and is much needed the more I'm thinking about how to best go about it
[07:59] <imbrandon> since i'm thinking new testcases for each project will need to be written, not just use the phpunit that exist now ( if at all )
[08:00] <imbrandon> really though , 5.4 or not this might be a worthy project , esp given this will be for a lts
[08:03] <imbrandon> just not sure exactly how to best get true coverage yet ... i'm sure i'll be pickin your brain about it at some point
[12:05] <koolhead11> marcoceppi, ping
[12:20] <gmb> SpamapS, around?
[12:36] <koolhead11> gmb, i think it be too early for him :)
[13:53] <anwak> Hi
[14:18] <Jarmo> Hi, does someone know easy way to change openstack so it wont try use AWS, trying to use local... Did install it with maas + juju... and can't find what to change and where..
[14:38] <koolhead17> hi all
[14:39] <Jarmo> Hi, does someone know easy way to configure openstack so it wont try use AWS, trying to use local... Did install it with maas + juju... and can't find what to change and where..
[14:42] <koolhead17> Jarmo, did you try juju docs
[14:43] <koolhead17> i think there is a section which describes about openstack based config file
[14:48] <nathwill> is there any juju search functionality to search the charm store?
[14:48] <nathwill> that would be a righteous feature...
[14:49] <koolhead17> nathwill, i suppose yes am not 100% sure though
[14:49] <nathwill> yeah, i'm not seeing anything in the man page.
[14:50] <nathwill> was thinking like `apt-cache search x`output
[14:50] <koolhead17> nathwill, am not sure about that but it be cool feature SpamapS ^^ :)
[15:00] <ihashacks> I'm going crazy trying to get juju + maas working happily.
[15:00] <ihashacks> Here's my environments.yaml http://paste.ubuntu.com/990792/
[15:00] <ihashacks> keep getting this on juju bootstrap: The supplied storage credentials were not accepted by the server
[15:00] <ihashacks> I made sure the MAAS key for oauth is good and even created a new one.
[15:01] <ihashacks> Here is my maas.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/990810/
[15:03] <ihashacks> ...and all I can find through web search are references to previous commits to maas and/or juju which I believe are merged now.
[15:08] <ihashacks> s/${}//
[15:08] <ihashacks> facepalm
[15:18] <m_3> nathwill: charmstore search is spec'd out but not implemented yet... perhaps in 12.10, but I don't know the exact timeline
[15:18] <nathwill> sweet
[15:18] <m_3> ihashacks: man... haven't used maas yet, it's on the tbd :(
[15:18] <nathwill> thanks for the info m_3
[15:30] <m_3> ihashacks: digging through the maas code, it looks like the maas api either doesn't have the correct paths for the file store or doesn't have the mac_addrs recorded in the filesstore correctly
[15:30] <m_3> ihashacks: maybe look for path config stuff... (?)
[15:32] <m_3> ihashacks: also, there may be more folks familiar with maas in #ubuntu-server
[15:32] <m_3> at least for now
[15:35] <negronjl> 'morning all
[15:40] <m_3> negronjl: morning
[15:40] <negronjl> m_3: 'morning
[15:42] <m_3> negronjl: hey... so are you cool with doing a charmschool sorta g+ hangout / ajaxterm in spanish sometime?
[15:42] <negronjl> m_3: absolutely
[15:43] <m_3> negronjl: awesome!
[18:34] <Jarmo> koolhead17 can u give me link?
[19:25] <Jarmo> Hi, does someone know easy way to configure openstack so it wont try use AWS, trying to use local... Did install it with maas + juju... and can't find what to change and where.. After installing it.... or before.... what ever is the easiest way
[19:30] <Jarmo> koolhead17 can u give me link? or did you mean https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/getting-started.html ? ...i can'tfind that ..yaml file mentioned there... I Think it should be there somewhere, because Dashboard prints it... but how i can change it..
[19:33] <koolhead17> Jarmo, let me check it once
[19:37] <Jarmo> my 1st .yaml file was something like thisone: environments:   maas:     type: maas     maas-server: 'http://maas.server.ip:80/MAAS'     maas-oauth: '${maas-api-key}'     admin-secret: 'nothing'     default-series: precise
[19:38] <Jarmo> so i think there should be different kind of .yaml file after installiation, because dashboard can print it..
[19:38] <koolhead17> Jarmo, i have no exp of maas so cant help you much
[19:38] <koolhead17> :(
[19:40] <Jarmo> that's ok, but i think it should be (almost) at same location than with openstack installiation.. maybe... :D
[19:40] <Jarmo> there must be some logic with its location :D
[19:42] <Jarmo> Note for myself :hmmm... maybe at nodes /.juju/enviroments.yaml at node computer....
[19:43] <koolhead17> Jarmo, wondering if there does a maas gets creted
[19:44] <koolhead17> and for that you have the yaml file used
[19:46] <Jarmo> but I was wondering: I think I have my own api server up wich I could use, if only I would know how to modify "creds" wich openstack dashboard gives me..
[19:47] <Jarmo> koolhead17: this is guide wich i did follow, then I did hear it uses AWS: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuCloudInfrastructure
[19:56] <koolhead17> Jarmo, nopes that guide uses openstack AFAIK
[20:24] <Jarmo> AFAIK?
[20:25] <koolhead17> as far as i know :P
[20:26] <Jarmo> on that guide this part gives me headache : uec-publish-tarball ./ubuntu-11.10-beta1-server-cloudimg-amd64.tar.gz images (actually cloud-publish-tarball) then it only says "not authorized"
[20:26] <koolhead17> yes uec-pulish is no more ued
[20:26] <koolhead17> used
[20:26] <Jarmo> I was asking about that problem yesterday here, and ppl told me happens because i dont have AWS account
[20:27] <koolhead17> well in that case i have no idea :(
[20:27] <Jarmo> same here :/ But I'll keep looking that, wanted just share that problem, hoping some1 had figured how to deal with it :D
[20:30] <koolhead17> jcastro, http://askubuntu.com/questions/65359/how-do-i-configure-juju-for-local-usage do we not need to tell juju where my charms are lying?
[20:31] <koolhead17> juju deploy local:mysql  <-- is it automatically going to fetch mysql charm from juju repo?
[20:33] <Jarmo> yeah
[20:34] <Jarmo> wich u did download with bzr command
[20:34] <koolhead17> Jarmo, so it means i have to provide my charm source path
[20:36] <Jarmo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuCloudInfrastructure    ---> Deploying Ubuntu Cloud Infrastructure with Juju explains it imo
[20:37] <Jarmo> but you had to bzr those files for your computer to do deploy from local
[20:37] <koolhead17> hmm. so i meant the askubuntu docs needs some modification
[20:40] <Jarmo> ...I dont totally understand what you mean.... but I did deploy some files jsut with command juju deploy mysql... etc but some files didnt work with that command, so i had to bzr those files to my copmuter and then deploy --repository=. local<charm name> them
[20:40] <Jarmo> hope that answers for your question :)
[20:41] <koolhead17> hmm
[20:41] <koolhead17> :P
[20:46] <SpamapS> koolhead17: local usage (using the local provider) does not mean local: charm usage
[20:47] <SpamapS> koolhead17: the question you linked is focused on the local provider, not local charms
[20:49] <koolhead17> SpamapS, ok so when am trying juju deploy local:mysql it should work without throwing any error
[20:49] <koolhead17> but it asks for source location 4 charm
[20:50] <Jarmo> did u bzr it?
[20:50] <Jarmo> u need to tell where that file is
[20:50] <Jarmo> and normally it is your repo folder on root
[20:51] <SpamapS> koolhead17: no, I'm just saying the question you linked is not relevant.
[20:51] <Jarmo> like i did have precise folder at root
[20:51] <SpamapS> koolhead17: you need either --repository path/to/charms or export JUJU_REPOSITORY=path/to/charms
[20:51] <koolhead17> SpamapS, thats exactly what i was mentioning
[20:52] <koolhead17> but if i follow http://askubuntu.com/questions/65359/how-do-i-configure-juju-for-local-usage am going to hit error saying path not found
[20:54] <Jarmo> I dont think  that guide works, atleast that way didn't work for me
[20:55] <Jarmo> or atleast somethign must be done before that
[20:56] <jcastro> which part doesn't work
[20:56] <jcastro> he just updated it
[20:57] <koolhead17> jcastro, all depoly commands need repository part
[20:57] <koolhead17> path
[20:57] <jcastro> no they don't
[20:57] <jcastro> "juju deploy mysql" grabs mysql from the charm store
[20:57] <koolhead17> jcastro, juju deploy local:mysql
[20:58] <koolhead17> i suppose asks for --repository
[20:58] <Jarmo> :O hmmm
[20:58] <jcastro> right
[20:58] <jcastro> that's if you want to deploy the charm you've downloaded by hand
[20:58] <jcastro> but you don't need to do that unless you're modifying the charm or something
[20:58] <Jarmo> yeah try without local:
[20:58] <koolhead17> jcastro, so here local doesnot mean LXC par se but custom charms
[20:58] <koolhead17> hot it
[20:58] <imbrandon> no
[20:58] <koolhead17> *got it
[20:59] <jcastro> no this means LXC
[20:59] <jcastro> it grabs the mysql charm from the store and deploys it locally on your LXC container
[21:00] <koolhead17> jcastro, juju deploy local:mysql thrown error asking for where is my repository
[21:00] <jcastro> right
[21:00] <koolhead17> am i supposed to install some additional pkg too
[21:00] <jcastro> no
[21:00] <jcastro> you do juju deploy --repository whatever local:mysql
[21:01] <jcastro> ok let's back up
[21:01] <jcastro> what are you trying to do
[21:01] <koolhead17> jcastro, i simply want to run mysql charm in my lcx
[21:01] <koolhead17> lxc
[21:01] <koolhead17> :)
[21:01] <jcastro> juju deploy mysql
[21:03] <koolhead17> jcastro, cool. so when am doing local:charm name am trying to deploy a charm located in my local machine with some repository path
[21:03] <koolhead17> am i correct?
[21:03] <jcastro> correct
[21:03] <koolhead17> cool. confusion solved :)
[21:04] <koolhead17> so local is for the location on charm but not anything with LXC
[21:05] <koolhead17> got it
[21:05] <koolhead17> SpamapS, thanks i got it finally what you mentioned :)
[21:42] <james_w> am I right that two services can establish multiple relations using different interfaces at the same time?
[21:45] <imbrandon> yes
[21:45] <james_w> cool
[21:46] <james_w> thanks imbrandon
[21:46] <imbrandon> np
[23:16] <pdtpatrick> Im getting the following error: http://pastie.org/3922991
[23:16] <pdtpatrick> following this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/Juju
[23:26] <pdtpatrick> here's my environments settings
[23:26] <pdtpatrick> http://pastie.org/3923026


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