[09:06] <Ragol> HollowPoint and _2, thanks for suggestions, I forgot totally that those need the restricted drivers...
[09:06] <_2> and btw. if a distro packages something that has issues it's the distros issue.
[09:07] <HollowPoint> _2 I agree with that on principle, and it annoyed me when Fedora 9 came out with a beta Xorg (Beta of this currently "ahem" stable version) and it wouldn't support Nvidia drivers
[09:07] <Ragol> but for some reason the hardware manager can't enable the nvidia drivers, it starts to downloading/installing and then just quits without any error msgs, not so nice :)
[09:07] <Ragol> but, I need to have lunch, and can play further a little later
[09:07] <HollowPoint> yeah I think that's what we're talking about here Ragol, Xorg current version has issues with Nvidia proprietary drivers
[09:08] <Ragol> *sigh*
[09:08]  * HollowPoint seconds that emotion
[09:08] <Ragol> is ati at least somehow better?
[09:09] <Ragol> I mean, do I just put ati card in order
[09:09] <HollowPoint> I believe the ATi drivers work with it, but I would never consider ATi to be BETTER than Nvidia and certainly NEVER on Linux lol
[09:09] <Ragol> it's nice to be a system administrator with rights to order stuff ;)
[09:09] <Ragol> yeah, me neither
[09:09] <_2> Ragol ati is not open either,   well not yet.
[09:09] <Ragol> but if it works, it's better at the moment ;)
[09:09] <Ragol> even though it would not be that in general
[09:09] <_2> atm i guess
[09:10] <HollowPoint> I thought it was just Nvidia proprietary drivers that weren't working, are they having ATi issues as well?
[09:11] <favro> try http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[09:11] <target> hi!
[09:11] <_2> it's like the question "where do you want to sit, the fire or the frying pan?"    my answer is "neither.  give me the 'lazy-boy, and an ice tea'"
[09:11] <HollowPoint> hi target
[09:11] <Exilant> is there a newsticker applet somewhere in the repositories?
[09:12] <_2> Exilant   apt-cache search $search_string | less
[09:12] <HollowPoint> does knewsticker still exist?
[09:13] <_2> in your case  apt-cache search newsticker | less
[09:13] <target> i've a problem with my version upgrade.... Unable to get exclusive lock. think my adept crash at the first time, how can i close it well?
[09:13] <_2> or even better.  apt-cache search ticker | less
[09:13] <HollowPoint> yeah the apt exclusive lock problem has returned with avengence in 8.10 it seems
[09:13] <benjamin> is there a GUI laying around for changing mount points?
[09:14] <_2> !adeptcrashfix | target
[09:14] <target> ok thanks i'll try!
[09:14] <HollowPoint> sudo dpkg --configure -a sometimes works in the command line target
[09:15] <HollowPoint> benjamin, which version of kubuntu are you using?
[09:15] <Exilant> ah, thanks a lot, was searching for plasmoid only
[09:15] <benjamin> HollowPoint: 8.10
[09:16] <larsivi> for some reason, firefox is the default browser when clicking links, how do I properly set it back to Konqueror?
[09:16] <HollowPoint> then I have no idea mate, there was in 8.04, just in the control center, it may still work in KDE4.1 I don't know?
[09:17] <benjamin> where was it in 8.04? i never found it when i was still running that...
[09:17] <target> doesn't work... can a restart help
[09:17] <jussi01> larsivi: system settings - default programs
[09:17] <_2> target you ran "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a "  ???
[09:18] <target> yes
[09:18] <_2> errors ?
[09:18] <larsivi> jussi01: yes, but what should I put there? just the konqueror binary name doesn't work
[09:18] <target> no
[09:18] <larsivi> and why isn't konqueror already default?
[09:18] <HollowPoint> in 8.04 it's in System Settings > Advanced > Disk & Filesystems, yet it seems to have stopped working in my 8.04 I've just tried it and it's complaining about the last KDE update
[09:18] <_2> target then what do you mean "doesn't work" ?
[09:19] <jussi01> larsivi: un an appliaction based on the contents of the url
[09:19] <jussi01> that should do it..
[09:19] <studente_> ggg
[09:19] <larsivi> jussi01: that opens firefox for me
[09:19] <jussi01> larsivi: o.0
[09:19] <_2> target you are root jr. are you not?     to test: sudo boo
[09:20] <larsivi> jussi01: I mean, if that one is checked, I get firefox
[09:20] <studente_> ciao fini
[09:20] <studente> ciao
[09:20] <target> i still have the same pb
[09:20] <target> sudo boo command not found
[09:20] <studente_> tutto a posto
[09:20] <studente> sid
[09:20] <jussi01> larsivi: that _shoult_ give konqui, I have no idea then...
[09:20] <jussi01> !it
[09:21] <_2> jussi01 that's clones.
[09:21] <jussi01> _2: just noticed...
[09:21] <HollowPoint> sorry benjamin I can't even check any further for you, since I install Virtualbox drivers in my 8.10 VM it won't display anything on screen, including the console
[09:21] <target> i enter sudo adept_manager --dist-upgrade than dist upgrade on the adept window
[09:21] <benjamin> fun
[09:21] <target> but the terminal than told unable to get exclusive lock
[09:22] <HollowPoint> target have you checked in top that apt, adept and synaptic are not running?
[09:23] <larsivi> jussi01: ah, it works now after setting it back - thanks :)
[09:23] <_2> target well first thing that catches the eye.  don't use sudo for graphical apps.    second why are you having to select something that you have specified on the command line?
[09:23] <target> hum, how can i check it?
[09:24] <target> because the command line open adept
[09:24] <HollowPoint> you type "top" without the "" in the command line, that brings up a program much like task manager in windows, in the console window, then you look at the processes to see if you can spot adept, apt, synaptic etc
[09:25] <target> ok i check
[09:25] <MinusSeven> does kubuntu have a web forum?
[09:26] <HollowPoint> kubuntuforums.com
[09:26] <target> nothing like that, just a strange migration/0
[09:26] <HollowPoint> you tried sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[09:26] <MinusSeven> ok thanks
[09:26] <target> yes
[09:26] <HollowPoint> np MinusSeven
[09:27] <target> i tried the 3 commands
[09:27] <HollowPoint> you haven't got the graphical adept open at the same time as using the command line have you?
[09:27] <_2> ps -A x | grep -iE 'a.*p.*t'
[09:27] <_2> sorry for the regex.   i'll keep that to a minimal
[09:27] <HollowPoint> lol
[09:29] <target> here http://paste.ubuntu.com/66667/
[09:29] <_2> HollowPoint <_2> target you ran "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a "  ??? <target> yes
[09:29] <target> maybe it's because of uid 1000 instead of 0 thing....
[09:29] <_2> target only if you are not root jr.
[09:30] <_2> target like i said does    sudo echo boo     boo at you?
[09:30] <kop_regr> hi. kopete user here. i'm looking for any idea on how to debug a regression since i upgraded to Intrepid: my webcam is not working anymore
[09:30] <target> yes it rply boo
[09:31] <_2> target then sudo is working.
[09:31] <benjamin> how do i delete an unused mountpoint?
[09:31] <larsivi> next question - ctrl+f doesn't work in konqueror (it does in firefox)
[09:31] <target> ok
[09:31] <_2> benjamin   rm -r    or rmdir
[09:31] <_2> benjamin if root owns it   root will have to delete it
[09:32]  * _2 uses root in the generic sense there again...
[09:32] <_2> my normal users name is root and my superusers name isn't     so i'm trying to break that habbit.
[09:33] <target> well, i'll try a manual upgrade...
[09:33] <HollowPoint> I always enable root in my systems anyway, I prefer to su than remember to type sudo all the bloody time
[09:33] <benjamin> k, thanks
[09:35] <ubuntu_> bonjour
[09:35] <kop_regr> i'm using Yahoo and the webcam worked fine with KDE 3.5 on Hardy. now i can still see the webcam in Settings -> Configure -> Devices. But nothing happens when I send/receive a webcam
[09:35] <kop_regr> contact don't even receive an invitation
[09:36] <jussi01> !fr | ubuntu_
[09:36] <HollowPoint> or not
[09:36] <_2> :)
[09:37] <benjamin> does anyone know how to name a HD? I'm rather tired of my drives all showing up as "volume" for the name
[09:37] <HollowPoint> open dolphin, go to storage devices, right click and rename
[09:37] <_2> setting volume names ?     hmmm
[09:38] <_2> benjamin you could add fstab lines.
[09:38] <_2> HollowPoint does that set the fs lables ?
[09:38] <HollowPoint> yup
[09:39] <benjamin> how do i get to "storage devices"?
[09:39] <_2> well tune2fs -l <name> /dev/<device>  would then work on ext# fs's
[09:39] <HollowPoint> it's down the left hand side in dolphin
[09:40] <HollowPoint> sorry "storage media"
[09:40] <markand> hi
[09:40] <HollowPoint> don't use my gui much these days for navigating the FS lol
[09:40]  * _2 still thinks the only place for dolphin is in cans of tunna
[09:40] <benjamin> mine has "home", "network", "root", "trash", and then my drives (most of which are labeled "volume")
[09:41] <HollowPoint> yup, well where you see your drives, right click on the volume and rename
[09:41] <markand> how do I autoload a xmodmap file at the kde startup ?
[09:41] <HollowPoint> _2 I love dolphin for a file browser but I agree the name sucks
[09:41] <benjamin> the only options it shows when i right click are hide and unmount
[09:41] <HollowPoint> you definitely in Dolphin benjamin
[09:42] <_2> that sentance question
[09:42] <benjamin> that's what it says across the top
[09:42] <HollowPoint> yeah sorry _2 it's 11pm here and am nackered
[09:43] <HollowPoint> I've tried KDE4.1 and didn't notice that had been changed benjamin so that's strange
[09:43] <_2> not a problem.  just struck me funny.   :)
[09:44] <benjamin> i suppose i could try booting back to xp and change them there... it might be quickest that way
[09:44] <HollowPoint> seing as my 8.10 Kubuntu VM has blown it's gasket after installing Virtualbox drivers I'm just booting up my Mandriva 2009.0 VM which uses KDE4.1 and I'll check for you benjamin
[09:44] <benjamin> or that
[09:45] <_2> and benjamin it might be.
[09:45] <_2> caps in the url ????
[09:47] <HollowPoint> doesn't that just suck!
[09:47] <kop_regr> any chance anybody might be using Kopete+Yahoo+webcam here?
[09:47] <HollowPoint> dolphin in KDE4.1 doesn't seem to have the feature
[09:47] <benjamin> funzies
[09:47] <HollowPoint> sorry kop_regr I don't use Kopete, yahoo or a webcam
[09:47]  * _2 seconds the motivation
[09:47] <ilya> kop_regr: what do you think about qutIM?
[09:48] <HollowPoint> benjamin: where is it you're seeing your drives?
[09:48] <benjamin> xp it is then
[09:48] <kop_regr> ilya: one more IM client? i don't know this one yet :)
[09:48] <benjamin> along the left side of dolphin
[09:48] <benjamin>  "home", "network", "root", "trash", and then my drives (most of which are labeled "volume")
[09:49] <_2> might i sugggest kdesudo dolphen   and looking one time.
[09:49] <ilya> kop_regr: qip clone for linux :)
[09:49] <HollowPoint> hmmm, all I have is home, network, root and wastebin, don't get drives in Mandriva KDE4.1
[09:49] <_2> it could be that without permission you don't get the option.
[09:49] <HollowPoint> true
[09:50] <_2> suggest only has two g's unless it's a gnu sugggestion.
[09:50] <kop_regr> ilya: well... not being a Win user, I don't know qip either :-). Does qutIM support Yahoo+webcam?
[09:51] <HollowPoint> kop_regr: I believe Pidgin supports yahoo and webcam
[09:51] <ilya> kop_regr: i think no :(
[09:52] <kop_regr> HollowPoint: pidgin + webcam ? 5 years i've been hoping for that one :)
[09:52] <HollowPoint> I believe so, again I don't use pidgin either but I'm sure I've spoken to people who've used it with both Yahoo and webcam
[09:53] <kop_regr> maybe gaim-vv at the time?? I can double-check again, but given the number of threads in forums about people requesting video in Pidgin, I would doubt it
[09:53] <HollowPoint> sorry benjamin but KDE4.1 mega sucks, I'd try not using your drives part of dolphin and just mount the disks at a certain point in your file system
[09:54] <HollowPoint> I have a 500GB Sata WD drive mounted at /Share for example on my system, I know exactly where it is and can get there by opening Dolphin and clicking, Root, then share
[09:54] <HollowPoint> gaim is yet another IM client I don't use lol
[09:54] <_2> are we back to my fstab sugggestion ?
[09:54] <HollowPoint> I believe so _2
[09:54] <Ash-Fox> Is it normal that the amarok in Kubuntu intrepid is using KDE 3.5.10 ?
[09:55] <HollowPoint> not normal Ash-Fox no
[09:55] <benjamin> launching dolphin using kdesudo yields the following across the bottom of the window: "Could not start process Cannot talk to klauncher: The name org.kde.klauncher was not provided by any .service files."
[09:55] <HollowPoint> quite possible, but not normal lol
[09:55] <holycow> it should be, amarok 2 isn't released i don't think
[09:55] <holycow> checking
[09:55] <kop_regr> actually i know only 2 clients that support webcams on Yahoo: kopete and Gyachi. the last one is not really well supported. kopete is the best option... welll... was until yesterday's Intrepid upgrade :-)
[09:55] <substr> i just updated my system to 8.04 but now it hangs up, i think, when X or kdm should start. any ideas what could be wrong?
[09:56] <holycow> oh it is
[09:56] <holycow> interesting
[09:56] <benjamin> it's difficult trying to remember three drives purely via their mount points (sdb1, sdc1, etc).
[09:56] <HollowPoint> mount them via names then
[09:56] <Ash-Fox> I noticed because amarok was using my old KDE color scheme :P
[09:56] <_2> benjamin oh my.     that'll teach me to stab in the dark,  now wont it...   ;/
[09:56] <HollowPoint> like I said, I have sdb (500GB SATA WD Drive) mounted at /Share
[09:56] <benjamin> they don't stick
[09:57] <benjamin> they end up shuffled
[09:57] <benjamin> it's wierd
[09:57] <HollowPoint> you using SATA, USB or IDE drives?
[09:57] <holycow> well when you format them name them
[09:57] <holycow> so when they mount they will be named
[09:57] <benjamin> well i don't recall seeing that option when i formatted them from ntfs to ext3  using linux :P
[09:57] <holycow> oh hehe
[09:57] <holycow> amarok is actually `1.3
[09:58] <holycow> apt thinks its 2.x
[09:58] <_2> benjamin they are ext#     </perks up>
[09:58] <holycow> oh wait 1:4
[09:58] <HollowPoint> there is an option to label the disks while formatting to ext3 from the cli, can't remember what it is, but I've used it lol
[09:58] <holycow> right amarok 2 isn't released yet
[09:58] <holycow> there is a repo you can us for amarok nightlies tho
[09:58] <holycow> google that and you can have amarok 2 in whatever current state its build is in
[09:58] <_2> benjamin use tune2fs -l <name> /dev/<device>    like i said an hour ago.
[09:58] <benjamin> i used a livecd... i don't recall the utility name
[09:58] <_2> errr sudo that
[09:58] <HollowPoint> lmao
[09:59] <benjamin> i'm already rebooting into xp, sorry :P
[09:59] <HollowPoint> traitor! lol
[10:00] <benjamin> i added ext3 support to xp for a reason (unforseen issues, like this one)
[10:00] <holycow> benjamin: why bother?
[10:00] <HollowPoint> when I re-installed my machine a few months ago I deliberately installed Vista as my Windows dual boot, so I wouldn't be tempted to boot it, and haven't done since the install :D
[10:00] <holycow> just go ntfs and forget linux ever existed
[10:00] <holycow> just be happy man
[10:00] <_2> it's not an issue.   it's a misunderstanding
[10:00] <mmo> Notice] -NickServ- This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>.
[10:00]  * _2 scrolls up....  <benjamin> how do i get to "storage devices"?
 well tune2fs -l <name> /dev/<device>  would then work on ext# fs's
[10:01]  * HollowPoint is confused at holycow's respones
[10:01] <mmo> ups sorry
[10:01] <mmo> wrong channel
[10:01] <HollowPoint> response*
[10:01] <benjamin> yeah, no field ever showed with that name
[10:01] <holycow> HollowPoint: we should never have our main goal as compmeting with microsoft or producing saleable product
[10:01] <holycow> what happens is you get people like benjamin who don't understand what they are getting
[10:01] <holycow> and don't want to learn
[10:01] <holycow> which is fine
[10:01] <holycow> there are macs and windows for that
[10:02] <ilya> holycow: windows must die!
[10:02] <benjamin> i'm only going to be in xp long enough to relabel my drives, then i'm heading back to 8.10
[10:02] <HollowPoint> I disagree holycow but don't think this is the place for me to do it lol
[10:02] <holycow> i used to think that too, now i want ms users just to stay on ms
[10:02] <_2> holycow easy....    every body starts some place.
[10:03] <holycow> absolutely
[10:03] <HollowPoint> Linux has a learning curve, no more so than Windows either, in fact it can be a lot less than Windows if you start out on an even playing field
[10:03] <holycow> but to play against 30 years of ingrained training is just bad strategy
[10:03] <holycow> there is more to linux than just a learning curve imho
[10:03] <benjamin> i've done pretty well myself... i only boot to windows when linux hiccups, otherwise i'm in linux full time
 i used to think that too, now i want ms users just to stay on ms <<< agree in part, and decent in part.   the ones that want to change linux, i wish would stay there.  the ones that want to join linux, i wish would leave there permanantly.
[10:04] <kuil> hi.. anybody knows how to disable randr scanning?
[10:04] <kuil> in 8.10 ?
[10:04] <HollowPoint> nah it isn't, it's good fun, healthy competition and they will eventually commit their own suicide, we needn't do much more than continue producing good software and they'll keep trying to discredit it and destroy it and each time they get more shot down in the press
[10:04] <holycow> well the one thing i've learned from #ubuntu is that being mean to ms users is not beneficial to anyone.  being willing to help always is not just healthy for the users but it helps the community
[10:04] <holycow> so i'm not trying to be mean
[10:05] <holycow> naw ms won't ever go away
[10:05] <benjamin> not in the forseeable future anyway
[10:05] <holycow> ms infact servers a definite requirement in the marketplace
[10:06] <ilya> benjamin: did you pay for windows? :)
[10:06] <jussi01> !ot
[10:06] <benjamin> ilya: it shipped with the box when it was boughten for me five years ago
[10:07] <HollowPoint> for now yes, but take this into consideration, they continually try to undermine other companies, they've pissed off Cisco (Who now own an exchange style server company), they've pissed off IBM hugely to the extent IBM are now regressing even more into Linux evangelism etc, how many more big players do we need to come our way?
[10:07] <holycow> apple for example sells an upscale complete experience.  people that buy apple buy mercedes ... they know with the price they get premium service
[10:07] <holycow> microsoft on the other end is the wallmart of software
[10:07] <holycow> we are a social movement, not a manufacturing plant to fulfill the needs of those that aren't willing to pay for our labour
[10:07] <HollowPoint> Apple suck beyond recognition, it isn't high end software, it's software on hand picked hardware, with code taken from numerous different locations for no money and no guarantee, developed a little and sold at a high price
[10:08] <holycow> and oddly, we are precisely a social movement of one, everyone is here for their own reasons
[10:08] <jussi01> Please us #kubuntu-offtopic for this discussion!!!!
[10:08] <HollowPoint> that is definitely truw
[10:08] <HollowPoint> jussi01 is about to have a heart attack so we'd best stop
[10:09] <jussi01> HollowPoint: no need to stop, just move :)
[10:09]  * _2 doesn't move,   just stops.
[10:09] <HollowPoint> idd
[10:10] <HollowPoint> jussi01 no one ever talks in there, it's boring as hell, so I just don't bother going there
[10:10] <kuil> please can someone help me disable randr scanning in kde4?
[10:10] <benjamin> is there a keyboard shortcut for the let's-bring-all-the-widgets-to-the-front-button?
[10:11] <dwidmann> HollowPoint: that's not true ... it's just conversations aren't constantly going on in there
[10:11] <_2> kuil can you explain a little bit?     maybe someone can at least devise a workaround
[10:12] <_2> dwidmann hmmm never was while i was there.
[10:12] <kuil> _2 my kdm.log and xorg.log are getting filled with messages.. and everytime something is added there my external monitor turns off and on
[10:12] <dwidmann> _2: I say this as a permanent resident of -offtopic
[10:12] <kuil> watching a monitor that's turning off every 10 seconds is really really annoying
[10:12] <kuil> it worked fine in 8.04
[10:13] <kuil> I read somewhere that disabeling randr scanning should work..
[10:13] <kuil> just can't find where to disable that
[10:14] <_2> people,  lets put our heads togather and devise a fix for kuil.   that's a major problem.
[10:15] <_2> and hardware damage might even insue.
[10:15] <kuil> _2 I would really really welcome one :)
[10:16] <HollowPoint> man xrandr seems one for me, I can't remember the commands to turn the monitor off but that would be my first option
[10:16] <HollowPoint> then use xrandr command line to re-configure it and re-enable the monitor once done
[10:17] <_2> he doesn't want to drop the monitor.  he wasn't to use it. but without continual scanning of said monitor.
[10:17] <kuil> jep
[10:17] <_2> s=wasn't=wants=
[10:17] <kuil> the image is okay.. as long as the monitor is on
[10:18] <_2> kuil   pastebin the output of    pstree     for me.
[10:18] <HollowPoint> yup, hence me saying, "re-enable the monitor once done", I was thinking more of if it's turned off while the configuring of randr is done it can't hurt the hardware from surges etc
[10:19] <_2> yeah that.
[10:20] <_2> i think we typed at the same time.       i do that some.   laggy
[10:20] <HollowPoint> lol
[10:20] <kuil> _2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/66678/
[10:22] <_2> kuil i'll give you a command to test.   if it forces a reboot or something like that don't blame me.      sudo killall krandrtray
[10:24] <Cictani> hi
[10:24] <_2> kuil ?
[10:24] <Cictani> where are konqueror plugins stored?
[10:24] <HollowPoint> lmfao, nice disclaimer, I think he'll be ok though
[10:24] <Cictani> since I installed konqueror-plugin-gnash but konqueror can't find it (kubunut 8.10)
[10:25] <_2> HollowPoint i "think" so too.  but i haven't tested that to see how kde4 would react.
[10:25] <HollowPoint> ah yes KDE4, even the oracle couldn't predict the reaction of KDE4
[10:26] <jeroen__> hi all i have a question how to install joomla if u already installed Mysql and apache2?
[10:26] <kuil> _2 I just started krandrtray
[10:26] <kuil> it's not responsable for the scanning :(
[10:26] <kuil> I kind of hoped I could disable it from there
[10:27] <kuil> but I have just quitted it
[10:27] <HollowPoint> you should be able to find installation instructions with the joomla source, it'll most likely be a case of unzipping the files to your web directory, then accessing a setup page via a browser, that's usually the install process for php apps
[10:27] <jeroen__> ok:)
[10:27] <jeroen__> thx
[10:27] <kuil> hmm.. there was a device notifier there.. that seemed to help
[10:28] <kuil> at least for my logfiles
[10:28] <_2> kuil guidance-power   could be sampling the external to see whether or not to go to a different setting...      still looking
[10:29] <kuil> still the same problem :(
[10:29] <kuil> so killing the defice notifier didn't help
[10:30] <_2> nm-system-setti ?
[10:30] <kuil> ** (nm-system-settings:9070): WARNING **: No plugins were specified.
[10:30] <Cictani> Hmm I just noticed not even clicking on any of the links above automatically opens an installed webbrowser why? ^^
[10:33] <_2> kuil idk.      i think i would systematicly start killing off processes starting with the last working up to the earilest,   and checking after each one. to find the offending process and then track it down from there.
[10:33] <kuil> _2 k.. thanks
[10:33] <_2> ps ax     is your friend.   as is   killall  and pidof
[10:33] <kuil> I'll remember that
[10:33] <kuil> thx
[10:34] <_2> HollowPoint have anything to add there ?    or anyone else ?
[10:34] <_2> jussi01  ?
[10:34] <HollowPoint> at this point all I could suggest would be crawling through top
[10:35] <HollowPoint> look for anything xorg, or xrandr/randr related that shouldn't/doesn't need to be there
[10:36] <_2> HollowPoint http://paste.ubuntu.com/66678/  pstree output     i was looking for something that looked like it would run xrandr    only thing i saw he said wasn't it.
[10:37] <HollowPoint> clickity
[10:37] <_2> top...  one could watch top for the time it took to cycle the thing. and see if something came to the "top" while the monitor blinked       kuil
[10:38] <HollowPoint> indeed :D
[10:38] <kuil> there is one error in my kdm file that complains about my intel driver
[10:38] <kuil> "(EE) intel(0): Unable to write to SDVOCTRL_E for SDVOB Slave 0x70."
[10:38] <kuil> no idea what that means though
[10:38]  * _2 would almost bet one of those py scripts....
[10:40] <HollowPoint> kuil, in a command line just type xrandr -v and pastebin the output please mate?
[10:40] <kuil> Server reports RandR version 1.2
[10:40] <kuil> just one single line
[10:41] <HollowPoint> ok cool, what about xrandr -q
[10:42] <kuil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/66688/
[10:42] <kuil> I updated my xorg with a virtual option.. but withouth that same problem
[10:43] <kuil> _2 I killed all python scripts running
[10:43] <kuil> didn't help
[10:43] <Exilant> Can someone tell me which program was used to create the nice screenshot combinations, for example http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/8.10-upgrade/kubuntu-810-screenie.png ? of 8.10
[10:44] <_2> Exilant the [print screen] key ?
[10:45] <HollowPoint> in the K menu you can use Graphics > Ksnapshot Exilant
[10:45] <_2> used to be called "take a screen shot"
[10:46] <_2> in the kmenu    kde3
[10:46] <Exilant> i mean, combine them with transparency
[10:46] <Exilant> sorry
[10:46] <HollowPoint> gimp
[10:46] <ubuntu_> русские есть?
[10:46] <HollowPoint> !gimp
[10:46] <_2> yeah gimp  krita maybe
[10:47] <Exilant> ok, i'll look if i can recreate sth. similar
[10:47] <ubuntu_> can i have russian help?
[10:47] <_2> !ur
[10:47] <_2> !ru
[10:47] <ubuntu_> thx
[10:47] <_2> typo   ;/
[10:48] <HollowPoint> kuil, try xrandr --off TMDS-1, if it turns off your working monitor you may have to drop to a console "CTRL F4" and turn it back on
[10:48] <kuil> HollowPoint: I don't seem to have any other consoles :(
[10:48] <kuil> just the graphical
[10:49] <_2> ctrl+alt+f1  to get to a console if needed
[10:49] <HollowPoint> duh yeah thanks _2
[10:49] <HollowPoint> lol
[10:49] <HollowPoint> is now midnight and I was tired at 9 lol
[10:49] <_2> HollowPoint i'll leave and rest if you will.   deal ?
[10:49] <frode> hi, I'm trying to upgrade to kubuntu 8.10, but the upgrade tool does not appear
[10:49] <kuil> _2 there is nothing there
[10:50] <_2> kuil then your vidio driver is your problem.
[10:50] <HollowPoint> meh lol
[10:50] <kuil> probably
[10:50] <kuil> but which one should I use?
[10:51] <kuil> will try and ask the people at xorg
[10:51] <kuil> thx
[10:51] <_2> there are always active tty consoles in linux.   if you can't see them it's a display issue (kernel frame buffer not playing nice with gfx driver most of the time)
[10:52] <kop_regr> frode: which version are you using now?
[10:52] <_2> very common with "ati and usplash"   not using usplash is one workaround that works for some.
[10:53] <_2> well i have a deal to keep.   so i'm out.
[10:53] <frode> 8.04 i think
[10:53] <kuil> _2 thx
[10:53] <_2> welcome kuil
[10:53] <frode> kde 3.5
[10:53] <kop_regr> i'm using Ubuntu here. But normally, for 8.04, you have to tell the system that you dont want to follow only LTR releases
[10:54] <kop_regr> in Ubuntu, you have to go to System -> Administration -> Software sources
[10:54] <kop_regr> from here, in the Updates tab, you have to change "Show new distribution releases" from "LTR support only" to "Normal releases"
[10:55] <kop_regr> but i'm not sure where you can find the same menu in Kubuntu
[10:56] <frode> ok, I'll try
[10:59] <HollowPoint> exit
[11:01] <Rasputin> does nvidia-71/96 work yet? anyne know
[11:04] <favro> Rasputin: you can check here - http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[11:10] <weew> anyone knows if dolphin can preview video files ?
[11:11] <weew> =/
[11:13] <Kundokaani> where are all programs in my os?
[11:14] <Kundokaani> I cant find vlc-player
[11:14] <p47r1ck__> HI ALL
[11:14] <Kundokaani> hi
[11:14] <p47r1ck__> WWW.KILLERS-TEAM.TK
[11:14] <p47r1ck__> :)
[11:14] <p47r1ck__> LINUX IS THE BEST :)
[11:14] <msl> Kundokaani: I would guess that it is in /usr/bin
[11:15] <p47r1ck__> JJ
[11:15] <p47r1ck__> I MAKE CS 1.6 SERVER ON LINUX :)
[11:15] <p47r1ck__> ANY GIRL FOR CHAT??? FOR ME? :d
[11:16] <msl> p47r1ck: You are looking in the wrong place.....  :)
[11:17] <Kundokaani> great I find it
[11:18] <Kundokaani> and next quiz is that I try to print pdf-file with pdf viewer and couldnt do it. then I download acrobat but I cant open install file
[11:19] <amerigo> HELLO...
[11:19] <dig> msl, no girl here I guess
[11:20] <ubuntu__> Hi, i just installed Kubuntu :>
[11:20] <Kundokaani> linux own add/remove softwares is great but what happen when I have to get something from web
[11:20] <msl> dig: I'm sure there are a few, but they are smarter than that..
[11:21] <MaVe_1337> i'm running kubuntu on my live cd
[11:21] <msl> Kundokaani: Can you print from other applications or is it only PDFs that you can't print?
[11:21] <amerigo> a tips please... I have 8 PC in mixed lan (Mesh), but if i try to rip file fron another PC with Konqueror - sometimes it work sometimes it don't, but if I use dolphin i got no problem.... There's a matter for this??
[11:27] <Kundokaani> msl: jes openoffice writer prints just fine
[11:28] <jussi01> !medibuntu | Kundokaani
[11:29] <jussi01> Kundokaani: acrobat is in that repo
[11:41] <Kundokaani> do you mean that adobe has made linux-version of acrobat reader but I am not allow to use it?
[11:43] <msl> You are allowed to use it and the "proper" way to install will be from the Medibuntu repo (which is well respected)
[11:43] <jussi01> Kundokaani: no, you can use it, just add the repo and install it!
[11:44] <larsivi> anyone noticed that kontact uses very much memory?
[11:44] <larsivi> since intrepid/kde4
[11:48] <Guest2282> Hi
[11:49] <perlmonkey> I keep getting a strange message on my shell console... "kbuildsycoca running...Reusing existing ksycoca"  I have no idea why, it just pops up every few minutes.. this is on a server which does not even have X installed.. any ideas how to stop it?
[11:49] <perlmonkey> here is rest of message: (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file /usr/share/applications/DefaultPlugins.desktop has Type=Link instead of "Application" or "Service" kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : /usr/share/applications/DefaultPlugins.desktop kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[11:50] <Guest2282> I just upgraded from Kubuntu 8.04 to 8.10, everything works fine, but i can't find the folderview plasmoid. Any ideas how to fix this problem?
[11:52] <kop_regr> kuil: did you solve your blinking display problem?
[12:00] <kop_regr> kuil, i found this: http://blog.nixternal.com/2008.10.22/kubuntu-intrepid-dual-monitor-blinking/      not sure if it helps your case
[12:02] <hagabaka> which package will provide the update notifier in 8.10? I have adept and update-notifier-kde installed, but nothing shows up when there are updates
[12:02] <jannott> What i need todo to open bz2 archive? Ark can't do it dolphin can't do it
[12:04] <jussi01> !info bzip
[12:04] <ccoffey> bzip2 maybe
[12:04] <jussi01> !info bzip2
[12:04] <jussi01> knew it was kinda like that
[12:10] <Kundokaani> ohh damn this is something over my skills
[12:10] <jussi01> Kundokaani: you want me to walk you through it?
[12:10] <Kundokaani> what I am going to write to that apt line
[12:11] <jussi01> Kundokaani: just go to a terminal, then do what I tell you
[12:11] <Kundokaani> I believe I have newest kubuntu
[12:12] <Kundokaani> jep I am in the terminal
[12:12] <Kundokaani> "bash" right?
[12:13] <jussi01> Kundokaani: ok, now please type:  lsb_release -a
[12:13] <jussi01> and tell me which version you have.
[12:14] <Kundokaani> ubuntu 8.10
[12:14] <jussi01> Kundokaani: ok great
[12:14] <jussi01> Kundokaani: now copy this and paste it into your terminal:
[12:14] <jussi01> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/intrepid.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[12:15] <Kundokaani> and hit enter?
[12:15] <jussi01> yes
[12:15] <jussi01> it will ask for your password
[12:15] <Kundokaani> no such file of directory
[12:15] <Kundokaani> or
[12:16] <jussi01> Kundokaani: what did you copy?
[12:16] <Kundokaani> ou I miss that sudo wgeet
[12:16] <jussi01> hehe
[12:16] <Kundokaani> jes now pass
[12:16] <kuil> kop_regr your the best! thank you very very much
[12:17]  * kuil is dancing like a little kid who just got candy
[12:17] <jussi01> Kundokaani: you wont see the password that you are typing, just type it and hit enter
[12:17] <Kundokaani> is that password same that I use when I normally install programs?
[12:18] <bibek> kopete-kde4 is strange
[12:18] <bibek> a new window wont open but
[12:18] <bibek> the kopete icon rotates..
[12:18] <bibek> how do i configure this?
[12:18] <jussi01> Kundokaani: yes
[12:18] <Kundokaani> is it now ready?
[12:18] <jussi01> no
[12:19] <jussi01> Kundokaani: now do this:
[12:19] <jussi01> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[12:19] <dig> Sysinfo for 'kenpeter': Linux 2.6.27-7-generic running KDE 4.1.2 (KDE 4.1.2), CPU<EMAIL_ADDRESS>at 1600 MHz (5333 bogomips), HD: 222/557GB, RAM: 982/1008MB, 155 proc's, 13.56min up
[12:19] <jussi01> Kundokaani: if it asks about un authenticated packages, just type the word yes
[12:20] <Kundokaani> E:
[12:20] <Kundokaani> E: Type 'sudo' is not known on line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:20] <Kundokaani> kundo@ubuntu:~$
[12:20] <ralpho_> rams a little weak
[12:20] <jussi01> Kundokaani: have you done something to your sources list?
[12:20] <Kundokaani> maybe... O.O
[12:21] <jussi01> Kundokaani: kdesudo kate /etc/sources.list
[12:22] <Kundokaani> could not be loaded
[12:22] <kop_regr> kuil, actually, it's on the main page of Kubuntu Intrepid as a known issue :-) no glory for me
[12:22] <jussi01> oh sorry
[12:23] <jussi01> Kundokaani: kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:23] <Kundokaani> jep
[12:23] <jussi01> Kundokaani: please copy all of that into a pastebin
[12:24] <jussi01> !pastebin | Kundokaani
[12:25] <Kundokaani> http://paste.ubuntu.com/66720/
[12:26] <jussi01> Kundokaani: ok, easy, remove the last line, then save and exit
[12:27] <Kundokaani> done
[12:28] <jussi01> Kundokaani: now back to terminal
[12:29] <jussi01> Kundokaani: in terminal now do this again:
[12:29] <jussi01> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/intrepid.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[12:29] <Captain_Haddock> anyone know where the hard disc manager that used to be in 8.04 has gone in 8.10?
[12:29] <Kundokaani> yes
[12:30] <jussi01> Kundokaani: is it done?
[12:30] <jussi01> Kundokaani: once you have done that do this:
[12:30] <jussi01> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[12:31] <Kundokaani> its loading
[12:31] <jussi01> good :)
[12:32] <jussi01> Kundokaani: when thats done you should be able to find and install acrobat in the normal way (in adept)
[12:32] <Kundokaani> thought that linux would be easyer :)
[12:32] <OxDeadC0de> hey I want to checkout some js plasmoids from svn, anyone know the address to get them? svn://anonsvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/plasma/applets doesn't work anymore it seems. I asked in #plasma already waiting a response, maybe someone here knows?
[12:33] <Captain_Haddock> Kundokaani: acrobat isn't free software, hence the extra step
[12:34] <Captain_Haddock> !medibuntu
[12:34] <Kundokaani> but I meant acrobat reader?
[12:34] <Captain_Haddock> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu (for future reference)
[12:34] <Captain_Haddock> Kundokaani: free as in freedom, not beer :P
[12:35] <dr_willis> Free as in Free Love?
[12:35] <dr_willis> :)
[12:35] <Captain_Haddock> "Medibuntu has two components for its repository. They are labelled free and non-free. The free component has the packages for software whose sources are made freely and/or are distributed with an open source license such as the GNU General Public License. The non-free component contains software whose sources are not made freely available and/or are distributed with a license that restricts certain ways the software can be distributed."
  Wonder if they ever made a linux port
[12:38] <kop_regr> Kundokaani, there are a lot of good free PDF viewers: evince, kpdf, gv, xpdf, etc.
[12:38] <hagabaka> has anyone used apt-p2p?
[12:39] <dr_willis> Foxit is freeas in beer, not free as in love.. :()
[12:39] <dr_willis> http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/desklinux/
[12:39] <michel> how do I do to install the nvidia driver in my kubuntu 8.10?
[12:40] <Guest2282> I just upgraded from Kubuntu 8.04 to 8.10, everything works fine, but i can't find the folderview plasmoid. Any ideas how to fix this problem?
[12:42] <dig> kop_regr: Among those PDF viewer, which one is able to edit PDF?
[12:43] <JontheEchidna> PDF generally isnt' an editable format
[12:43] <kop_regr> dig, i'm not aware that any of those can edit PDFs. However, I seem to remember that the new OpenOffice 3.0 can edit PDFs
[12:43] <JontheEchidna> Guest2282: is kdebase-plasma installed?
[12:45] <benjamin> how do i make it so i have to double click on folders in dolphin (as opposed to the default single click)?
[12:46] <hagabaka> benjamin: system settings, keyboard and mouse, mouse, general, icons, double click ....
[12:46] <wolf_> hi i started a update from 8.04 to 8.10, all went foine, then the install progress began, i went away from the pc for some minutes, then the kicker and the upgrade manger were away
[12:47] <wolf_> what happened?
[12:47] <bufalo1973> hi
[12:49] <bufalo1973> wolf_, it happened too to me and I solved it by killing the process and starting it over (first a safe-upgrade, then a dist-upgrade)
[12:50] <wolf_> bufalo1973: which process?
[12:50] <Guest2282> JontheEchidna: No its not *shameonme* Thanks alot!
[12:51] <wolf_> bufalo1973: what is a safe-upgrade?
[12:51] <bufalo1973> wolf_, look at the processes list and you'll find it easily
[12:51] <Guest2282> JontheEchidna: Now i have folderview.
[12:51] <Guest2282> Thx for help.
[12:51] <JontheEchidna> :]
[12:52] <bufalo1973> I don't remember the name, but it was very obvious
[12:52] <wolf_> bufalo1973: cant you tell me the prog-name?
[12:53] <bufalo1973> wolf_, look a the processes list
[12:53] <bufalo1973> it eats a lot of cpu time
[12:53] <wolf_> bufalo1973: i think i have to install a fresh kubuntu
[12:53] <wolf_> bufalo1973: i have top open
[12:54] <wolf_> the updatemanger inst running anymore and also kicker
[12:54]  * SkEmO is back
[12:55] <bufalo1973> if you don't see any obvious name (intrepidsomething), try to safe-upgrade the system and then dist-upgrade
[12:57] <wolf_> bufalo1973: how to safe-upgrade?
[12:59] <wolf_> but when the upgrade breaks i thin a new install is the best solution isnt it?
[13:01] <benjamin> he left
[13:01] <wolf_> cant some one help me with this breaking upgrade?
[13:01] <bufalo1973> wolf_, sudo aptitude safe-upgrade&&sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[13:02] <benjamin> i guess he came back
[13:02] <wolf_> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correctthe problem
[13:02] <bufalo1973> then do it
[13:02] <wolf_> so i run that?
[13:03] <bufalo1973> sudo dpkg --configure -a&&sudo aptitude safe-upgrade&&sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[13:03] <bufalo1973> this should correct the upgrade
[13:07] <Kundokaani> I tried to put photoshop shortcuts to gimp cause gimps shortcut are little bit hard after using 13 years of photoshop
[13:07] <dr_willis> There is that GimpShop program/gimp variant. :)
[13:08] <Kundokaani> linux sayd that I cant rename that gimb shortcut file
[13:10] <wolf_> bufalo1973: so tty1 upgrade would be recommended?
[13:10] <wolf_> o avoid such problems
[13:11] <dvd> a
[13:12] <bufalo1973> wolf_, ttyX or konsole or xterm or ...
[13:12] <wolf_> bufalo1973: amarok-common is very inconsistent and it's ecommended to install it new
[13:12] <wolf_> the install process cant remove it
[13:13] <bufalo1973> well, if you have too much trouble, clean install
[13:13] <wolf_> i think the system is messed up because of this great gui installer, which is overall on ubuntu sites the way to upgrade the system
[13:13] <wolf_> grmbl
[13:13] <bufalo1973> it will be faster
[13:14] <bufalo1973> do you have your /home in another partition?
[13:15] <arcanusx> Anyone successfully using pamusb with intrepid?
[13:17] <makaveli12> how can i change my refresh rate , ubuntu 8.10 , video = ATI HD 3450 , driver = fglrx i cant use more than 60 hz  ?
[13:18] <makaveli12> helloooo
[13:19] <bdheeman> I also want to get rid a fliker, which is caused by typing and, or clicking mouse
[13:19] <dr_willis> Ive neer needed to bothe rwith the refresh rate so cant tell you makaveli
[13:19] <dr_willis> DVI LCD, not really an issue for me
[13:19] <wolf_> bufalo1973: no
[13:19] <makaveli12> pf
[13:19] <makaveli12> damn
[13:19] <makaveli12> ;[
[13:19] <mifauna> hola
[13:20] <dr_willis> !fixres
[13:20] <benjie> hi guys!!!
[13:20] <benjie> i have a problem with my sound driver
[13:20]  * dvd^bitbucket is away: Zur Zeit nicht da.
[13:20] <benjie> can anyone help me pls?
[13:20]  * dvd^bitbucket is back.
[13:21] <Captain_Haddock> !question
[13:22] <benjie> got it
[13:22] <benjie> sorry
[13:22] <benjie> i have a laptop using sigmatel sound driver
[13:22] <benjie> but not sound is coming out
[13:23] <benjie> anyone encounter this before?
[13:23] <benjie> i just installed kubuntu 8.1
[13:23] <dr_willis> check the mixer contrlls, and perhaps alsamiser from a terminal. be sure its not accidently muted
[13:23] <dr_willis> ive seen sound be 'muted' and not show it as such befor.
[13:24] <benjie> yup, it's not muted
[13:24] <benjie> actuali the driver seems to be working except theirs not sound coming out of the speaker
[13:24] <dr_willis> start some mediaplayer  from a terminal, try to play somthing look for  output errors also
[13:25] <benjie> got it
[13:25] <benjie> i'll try to do that
[13:25] <dr_willis> ive sene that befor where it plays and you see the little equalizer sound things bob up and down, and the visual  eyecandy works in tune to the music bue you just dont hear it. :)
[13:25] <arcanusx> !fixpamusb
[13:25] <arcanusx> !pamusb
[13:25] <arcanusx> damn :D
[13:26] <benjie> it's playing normally but not sound coming out of the speaker
[13:26] <dr_willis> ive neer even heard of pamusb
[13:26] <bentob0x> under 7.10 I had the right-click option for compressing files with choice of file type etc
[13:26] <bentob0x> how can I get this in 8.04 KDE4?
[13:27] <arcanusx> its a pam module that uses onetime pads to authenticate a user against a USB key
[13:27] <dr_willis> Not seen a way yet.. seen several ask.. but never seen an answer
[13:28] <dr_willis> I recall fighting with sound vanishing on this box once.. then realize i had a headset plugged in.. :)
[13:28] <arcanusx> Ive had it working for ages, but i suddenly get a error saying my USB stick is not removable anymore...
[13:29] <benjie> i'm using dual boot and the sound driver seem to be working well with windows vista
[13:29] <benjie> i'm just wondering y it's not workng for linux considering it was identified :(
[13:29] <dr_willis> i had a weird quirk during install where it set up /dev/sdb as a cdrom drive.. in fstab as a 2nd optical drive  when in fact i only had one optical drive..  This made my FIRST usb key i plugged in. never work/mount right.
[13:30] <dr_willis> I would say check the fstab for a weird entry. :) it does mount? kust says its not removeable?
[13:32] <r0y4lty> I just updated to Kubuntu 8.10 and now whatever screen I open up getts maxed out as a background on my desktop? Anyone know how I can fix it?
[13:32] <arcanusx> i get the same error wether its as sdb, sdg or sdf...
[13:32] <arcanusx> (trying to reformat now, lets see if that helps :P)
[13:33] <amerigo> hi at all...
[13:33] <r0y4lty> yeah I looked everywhere and I couldnt find a solution
[13:33] <kopote> hola
[13:33] <r0y4lty> hey
[13:33] <amerigo> it's possible to increase memory swap without formatting???
[13:34] <benjie> anyone who knows how to work with sigma tel?
[13:34] <Pici> amerigo: Boot up with a live CD and use gparted/qtparted to resize the swap partition.
[13:35] <amerigo> Pici: I do not loose any data??
[13:36] <substr> hi
[13:36] <Pici> amerigo: Resizing does not require formatting. You should have your data backed up somewhere just in case though. If the process is interupted, data loss can occur.
[13:36] <dr_willis> amerigo,  you could always add a swap file.
[13:36] <OxDeadC0de> !pastebin
[13:36] <substr> any ideas why my xkb-keymap wont load. Xorg.0.log says: (WW) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap
[13:38] <amerigo> Pici: dr_willis: may be I'll loose program and setting?
[13:38] <dr_willis> making a swap file - wont lose anything...
[13:38] <amerigo> ok
[13:39] <dr_willis> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/
[13:39] <dr_willis> My wife cries when the dog gets a shot.
[13:39] <arcanusx> thats random...
[13:39] <amerigo> i'm gonna go
[13:39] <r0y4lty> lol yeah that was random
[13:40] <dr_willis> wrong channel. :) heh
[13:40] <arcanusx> xD
[13:40] <r0y4lty> ha
[13:40] <dr_willis> talking to a Paramedic in #puppylinux
[13:40] <dr_willis> heh
[13:40] <arcanusx> haha
[13:40] <r0y4lty> lol
[13:40] <arcanusx> aight, take care guys, gtg
[13:40] <r0y4lty> peace
[13:41] <r0y4lty> This screen is so annoying
[13:42] <amerigo> dr_willis: Pici: If i have inderstood ... i have to create a new file?
[13:43] <_MarcoPau_> hello, since my last upgrade the audio hasn't been working any more. is it a common problem?
[13:43] <dr_willis> amerigo,  the dd command in that guide generates a 'file' that you then format as swap and add to the swap list.
[13:43] <dr_willis> You can have several swap partitions and swap files at the same time.
[13:43] <amerigo> Clear
[13:43] <Kundokaani> I just went root/home/kundo/.gimp and fint gimp directory
[13:44] <Kundokaani> now I trying to find same directory by clicking
[13:44] <Kundokaani> where is only my personal stuff styled ready made directory system or something like that
[13:45] <Kundokaani> videos photos desktop
[13:45] <Kundokaani> where is that gimp?
[13:45] <Kundokaani> linux directories are little bit weir
[13:45] <Kundokaani> D
[13:45] <Kundokaani> d
[13:48] <dr_willis> Huh>
[13:48] <dr_willis> all user stuff is in their home directory somewhere.
[13:49] <dr_willis> compared to the disaster of directories and files that Vista is using.. I will stick with how Linux does it.
[13:51] <Kundokaani> oujeah
[13:51] <Kundokaani> they were hidden
[13:52] <ben_> hello
[13:53] <kop_regr> gtg. bb
[13:53] <derjens> hello everybody
[13:53] <derjens> i have kubuntu 8.10 and cannot get wlan working with WPA2
[13:54] <derjens> i was running wlan with wep for 1 week and now i wanted to move to WPA2
[13:54] <ben_> i have kubuntu
[13:54] <derjens> but i cannot check WPA in the network manager
[13:54] <pushax> hi derjens, I can't get my Intel 4965AG enabled.  says disabled in lshw -C network
[13:55] <ben_> i dont know what version though
[13:55] <derjens> pushax: mine is working... as i said wlan with wep was working fine
[13:55] <pushax> does anyone know how to enable wifi card?
[13:55] <derjens> which kubuntu version do you use? with 8.10 and 8.04 (i tested it before) it worked all out of the box on ThinkPad T61
[13:56] <pushax> derjens: have you tried putting a land cable in for temp internet and doing patches?
[13:56] <trojan_> kiss my ass
[13:56]  * derjens is looking for something to drink. 1min AFK
[13:56] <pushax> using new ibex
[13:56] <ben_> how is everyone?
[13:56] <larsivi> pushax: you probably have a on/off switch on your laptop?
[13:56] <pushax> larsivi: yes and it's on.
[13:56] <larsivi> for wireless ...
[13:57] <bazhang> !ru | trojan_
[13:57] <bazhang> trojan_, no cursing please
[13:57] <larsivi> pushax: I came over some mention of a kill switch the other day, don't know if it applies to your chip/laptop
[13:58] <derjens> pushax: ATM i am working on ethernet. i have all recent patches installed
[13:59] <derjens> can anybody help me setting up WPA2?
[13:59] <derjens> i read the wiki but i did not help very much
[14:01] <larsivi> derjens: intel wireless?
[14:01] <derjens> larsivi: yes
[14:01] <derjens> using iwl4965
[14:01] <larsivi> works out of the box for me ...
[14:02] <larsivi> I have the 3965 card
[14:02] <derjens> well, the device is there and WEP is no prob... but i cannot select WPA from the list of security items
[14:02] <amerigo> dr_willis: I have done dd during carge process ... swap space is ready without booting (and under charge) !!!
[14:02] <amerigo> dr
[14:03] <larsivi> derjens: which network manager do you use?
[14:03] <amerigo> thank you !!!
[14:03] <Trapecista> build-essential seams to have been installed wrong, how can i reinstall it with all dependencies? I have tried apt-get install --reinstall build-essential but did not reinstall dependencies
[14:03] <derjens> larsivi: KNetworkManager
[14:04] <larsivi> derjens: hmm, it seems to pick up the correct available modes with me - for instance WPA Enterprise or WPA Personal (which I use home)
[14:04] <larsivi> there are other issues with the new knetworkmanager (in intrepid) though ..
[14:04] <derjens> larsivi: i know about the different types but none of them is available
[14:05] <larsivi> derjens: do you get a list of available networks?
[14:05] <derjens> larsivi: there are some things different to my old linux system. i will mention them and you will look if anything is different on your box?
[14:06] <derjens> larsivi: yes, i get the list. my wpa2 network is in the list, too
[14:06] <larsivi> derjens: not sure I can help much - I had to mess around a bit to get it working after upgrading
[14:06] <larsivi> but when I first got the list of networks (scanning didn't work at first), security just worked
[14:07] <derjens> larsivi: please run `sudo wpa_cli` on console. does it say "Could not connect to wpa_supplicant - re-trying"?
[14:07] <derjens> larsivi: and what exactly do you mean by "mess around"? did you change any config files?
[14:07] <larsivi> derjens: I'm not connected to wireless atm
[14:08] <larsivi> derjens: and no - it was missing packages like kernel modules and so on that was held back during upgrade
[14:08] <derjens> no prob. you can securely run wpa_cli. it is just a console for managing and monitoring wpa_supplicant. starting it does not change anything on your wireless connection
[14:09] <larsivi> I know - and I get Could not connect to wpa_supplicant - re-trying - which I assume is because I'm not connected to wireless
[14:09] <yousef> derjens: you probably have to upgrade your router firmware
[14:09] <larsivi> hmm, or not - wpa_supplicant is running
[14:10] <yousef> what kind of router
[14:10] <derjens> yousef: no. it is dd-wrt and wpa2 is no prob. the actual problem is that i cannot select wpa2 in knetworkmanager
[14:11] <yousef> oh i see
[14:11] <derjens> larsivi: are you sure that you can connect to wpa networks though? if this works for you, then wpa is no problem even if wpa_cli does not work
[14:12] <larsivi> derjens: I can't test it while at the office, but it certainly worked at home  yesterday
[14:12] <derjens> okay
[14:12] <larsivi> for WPA Personal - the router is using WPA2
[14:13] <pushax> derjens http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202834&highlight=4965ag
[14:17] <derjens> pushax: this link seems not to be of any use. it is related to manual config of wlan devs. but i wanna use knetworkmanager which is the default way and iwl4965/4965ag is not even mentioned in this doc
[14:17] <derjens> or did i miss anything?
[14:23] <ubuntoil> Hi. I wanna try Qt creator and I can't build my example because he doesn't know where is qmake
[14:23] <ubuntoil> does anyone knows where is my Qmake ??
[14:28] <favro> !info qmake
[14:29] <jussi01> ubuntoil: whereis qmake
[14:32] <ubuntoil> jussi01: qmake is /usr/bin/qmake
[14:34] <ubuntoil> here: /usr/share/qt4/bin/qmake
[14:34] <ubuntoil> but does not want to compile..??
[14:35] <phx591> hey, I'm using intrepid ibex with nvidia's driver on my  laptop. Are there any working settings to speed up kde 4 a little bit?
[14:36] <XenThraL> not sure where to direct criticism but
[14:36] <XenThraL> this has been hands down the worst dist upgrade I've ever done
[14:36] <XenThraL> it has really corroded my trust in kubuntu
[14:36] <XenThraL> and now I'm forced to use gnome to have a running stable system
[14:37] <larsivi> XenThraL: I agree that the upgrade was bad, although with some effort it is stable for me now
[14:37] <larsivi> too much effort I should add
[14:37] <XenThraL> larsivi: I'm not linux expert
[14:37] <XenThraL> and it broke so many things for me
[14:37] <XenThraL> and theres so much missing
[14:37] <XenThraL> like, a GUI to configure my network
[14:37] <XenThraL> if I didnt have windows
[14:38] <XenThraL> I wouldnt be able to have solved this issue
[14:38] <XenThraL> since it knocked down my network settings and I had _no_ idea where those conf files were
[14:38] <dmcmanus> lololololololololol
[14:38] <jmcculloch> hey dom
[14:38] <dmcmanus> sapnin J
[14:38] <jmcculloch> ya bass
[14:38] <ubuntoil> XenThraL:knetworkmanager ??
[14:38] <jmcculloch> bye bye
[14:38] <jmcculloch> *waves*
[14:39] <XenThraL> tried it
[14:39] <jmcculloch> try again
[14:39] <XenThraL> didnt change the settings when I configured through it
[14:39] <jmcculloch> try harder
[14:39] <XenThraL> also had problems with my X
[14:39] <ubuntoil> XenThraL: admin mode ??
[14:39] <XenThraL> and KDE4 crashes
[14:39] <XenThraL> when I turn on my twinview
[14:39] <dmcmanus> yeah crash
[14:39] <jmcculloch> awwww diddums
[14:39] <dmcmanus> sherman takes the cock
[14:39] <XenThraL> this is all pretty, well, duct-taped together
[14:39] <jmcculloch> oh thats news to me
[14:39] <ubuntoil> XenThraL: I prefer kde3....and I didn't upgrade....
[14:40] <dmcmanus> is this Jeffers?
[14:40] <jmcculloch> nah - KDE2 hardcore
[14:40] <XenThraL> yeah, kde3 is much better
[14:40] <jmcculloch> nah 2
[14:40] <XenThraL> wish I had known how bad kde4.1 is before I tried to upgrade
[14:40] <XenThraL> and damn I hate gnome but dont have a whole lot of options right now
[14:41] <ubuntoil> XenThraL: yes, that would be great to have downgrade tools
[14:41] <XenThraL> well thats not really a solution either
[14:42] <ubuntoil> XenThraL: now you have to download and install 8.04
[14:42] <XenThraL> I upgraded because I trust the kubuntu people
[14:42] <XenThraL> and I can't
[14:42] <XenThraL> cause my DVD drive is busted
[14:42] <ubuntoil> XenThraL: upgrade is not always good...sometimes you should skip a version
[14:43] <XenThraL> really wanted gcc 4.3
[14:43] <ubuntoil> XenThraL: what about a usb dist ??
[14:43] <XenThraL> anyways
[14:43] <XenThraL> I offer the criticism here for whatever its worth
[14:44] <jmcculloch> criticise this
[14:44] <XenThraL> been using ubuntu since dapper
[14:44] <XenThraL> hands down worst dist-upgrade ever
[14:44] <jmcculloch> i concur
[14:47] <GillesMM> amsn is not in intreprid ?
[14:49] <hagabaka> hi, i have a mouse with two buttons, a wheel, and two thumb buttons. currently the wheel controls horizontal scroll bars but not vertical ones. how could I make it control vertical scroll bars?
[14:49] <phx591> hi, do you have any working xorg.conf tweaks for intrepid ibex + nvidia driver?
[14:56] <Ash-Fox> http://ash-fox.quickfox.org/temp/signalbars Seriously, look at the signal bars. They're monitoring the same network interface. They both have four bars. The one on the left is from KDE4+Kubuntu intrepid, the one on the right is from KDE3.5+Kubuntu hardy. Why are they measuring different strengths?
[14:56] <Eruaran> Does anyone know if there's a fix for icons that dont paint properly in the systray ?
[14:56] <Ash-Fox> Eruaran, it's an effects setting.
[14:57] <Ash-Fox> You would need to enable effects and just have the tray icon effecty thing enabled
[14:57] <Eruaran> ?
[14:57] <Eruaran> Not sure what you mean
[14:57] <jmcculloch> koik
[14:57] <Eruaran> effects are enabled
[14:57] <Ash-Fox> If you haven't disabled effects, it's something else
[14:57] <jmcculloch> lol
[14:57] <jmcculloch> does anyone know sherman?
[14:58] <jmcculloch> i demand respect
[14:58] <hagabaka> !wheel
[14:59] <autoconnor> anyone know any good jokes?
[14:59] <Pici> !ot
[14:59] <autoconnor> i dont wanna
[15:00] <jussi01> autoconnor: I strongly sugggest you do. ;)
[15:09] <Guest49783> ,
[15:11] <root> dg
[15:12] <albhack> hi everyone
[15:12] <albhack> who can help me how i can crack
[15:12] <albhack> how i can install kismet
[15:12] <albhack> in ubuntu
[15:13] <albhack> is there
[15:13] <Pici> albhack: sudo apt-get install kismet
[15:13] <albhack> anyone
[15:13] <albhack> here ?
[15:13] <albhack> lool
[15:13] <Pici> !enter
[15:13] <albhack> !enter
[15:13] <albhack> ej pici
[15:13] <albhack> no kismet crack
[15:13] <albhack> tool
[15:13] <albhack> i wget
[15:13] <albhack> and tar file but
[15:14] <albhack> when i go ./configure
[15:14] <Pici> albhack: Please lay off on the enter key a bit.
[15:14] <albhack> say
[15:14] <Pici> albhack: kismet is in the software repositories, there is no need to compile it from source.
[15:15] <albhack> ok pici
[15:15] <Pici> !info kismet
[15:15] <albhack> now how i can see
[15:15] <albhack> ok i have that
[15:15] <albhack> but how i can install
[15:15] <albhack> please becouse i am new member of linux
[15:15] <Pici> albhack: Run: sudo apt-get install kismet
[15:15] <Pici> !software
[15:16] <bentob0x> maybe you should try explaining in asembler Pici ...
[15:17] <albhack> ok pici
[15:17] <gruppe> Hi
[15:17] <albhack> now i do that comand and it say
[15:17] <kokolinux> hello !!!
[15:17] <kokolinux> :D
[15:17] <bentob0x> oh hello
[15:18] <albhack> [sudo] password for albhack:
[15:18] <albhack> Reading package lists... Done
[15:18] <albhack> Building dependency tree
[15:18] <albhack> Reading state information... Done
[15:18] <kokolinux> eee alguien habla español ?
[15:18] <albhack> Suggested packages:
[15:18] <albhack>   festival gpsd
[15:18] <Pici> !es | kokolinux
[15:18] <albhack> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[15:18] <albhack>   kismet
[15:18] <albhack> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[15:18] <Pici> !paste | albhack
[15:19] <bentob0x> albhack: just do ALT+F2 now and type kismet
[15:19] <Pici> kismet is a cli program
[15:20] <albhack> pici
[15:20] <bentob0x> ah, my mistake then
[15:20] <albhack> now i insalll
[15:20] <albhack> what i can do now were
[15:20] <albhack> i can see
[15:20] <albhack> were i can run the kismet
[15:20] <albhack> pici
[15:20] <Pici> From a terminal, konsole if you're on KDE.
[15:20] <albhack> are u here
[15:21] <albhack> yes
[15:21] <albhack> the komanda
[15:21] <albhack> to run is
[15:21] <albhack> pici
[15:21] <albhack> bro u are here
[15:22] <bazhang> albhack, espanol?
[15:22] <albhack> no
[15:22] <albhack> englsih albanian
[15:22] <albhack> :S
[15:22] <bazhang> type kismet
[15:22] <albhack> hmm ok now
[15:23] <albhack> i open the terminal
[15:23] <albhack> and do
[15:23] <Pici> You'll need to modify /etc/kismet/kismet.conf to match your setup first though.
[15:23] <bazhang> !enter | albhack
[15:23] <bazhang> albhack, dont use the enter key as punctuation.
[15:23] <albhack> ok
[15:23] <Kundokaani> how to get youtube working? I downloaded sun java 6 and gnash and still dont work
[15:24] <albhack> but pic were i can found
[15:24] <albhack> that
[15:24] <albhack> kismet.conf
[15:24] <albhack> ?
[15:24] <bazhang> !flash
[15:24] <bazhang> Kundokaani, ^^
[15:24] <Pici> albhack: I just told you /etc/kismet/kismet.conf
[15:24] <ewgen> list
[15:26] <heinrich> hmm i have a question regarding installation of envyng-gtx on a ati x1600 mobility. After installation and reboot the computer asks for drivers regarding graphics and monitor...what do i put in? vesa? fglrx? or just radeon/radeonhd.
[15:29] <heinrich> any ideas?^^
[15:31] <albhack> bazhabg
[15:31] <albhack> bazhang
[15:31] <albhack> can u help me how
[15:31] <simon__> accountancy software in linux which wins?
[15:31] <albhack> i can config wireless card in kismet ?
[15:31] <bazhang> !info gnucash
[15:32] <bazhang> albhack, what are you trying to do? please write it all on one line. Don't type two words then hit enter please.
[15:32] <w8tah> !sound
[15:33] <firechris> hello @all
[15:33] <firechris> May someone help me on kubuntu 8.10 ?
[15:33] <bazhang> albhack, answer me in the channel please not in PM
[15:33] <albhack> ok
[15:33] <firechris> I cannot get aspell or ispell working
[15:33] <albhack> bro
[15:34] <albhack> how i can
[15:34] <albhack> config the wlan card in kismet ?\
[15:34] <bazhang> albhack, all on one line.
[15:34] <w8tah> how do i enable the sound system on Intrepid?
[15:34] <albhack> hmm i run
[15:34] <albhack> the lin
[15:35] <albhack> loooooool
[15:35] <albhack> what hapend
[15:35] <albhack> here
[15:35] <albhack> ?
[15:35] <bazhang> albhack, you aren't listening
[15:35] <albhack> now i install the kismet
[15:35] <bazhang> albhack, put your question all on one line.
[15:35] <albhack> but how i use thast
[15:35] <albhack> ok
[15:36] <bazhang> albhack, why do you want to use kismet
[15:36] <albhack> to crack a wireless wep wep
[15:36] <Freeaqingme> I have a mouse with some extra buttons. Is there a GUI available to configure those?
[15:36] <bazhang> albhack, no.
[15:36] <albhack> mm
[15:37] <albhack> but how i can config
[15:37] <pabluntu> hello
[15:37] <albhack> brother
[15:37] <albhack> how i can crack that shit wifi
[15:37] <bazhang> albhack, dont curse here.
[15:37] <albhack> ok
[15:37] <albhack> bro
[15:37] <albhack> sorry
[15:38] <Ryu> i have added the spring engine intrepid repositories to the sources list but when i look for spring it doesnt show up
[15:38] <heinrich> This feels like afk-heaven=P
[15:38] <bazhang> Ryu, did you sudo apt-get update
[15:39] <Ryu> yeh
[15:39] <Ryu> but neither adpet manager or synaptic show spring
[15:39] <bazhang> paste.ubuntu.com /etc/apt/sources.list please
[15:39] <Ryu> but when i try with terminal it does find it .. why?
[15:39] <Ryu> k
[15:39] <bazhang> heinrich, you want to do 3d?
[15:40] <bazhang> fglrx is very buggy heinrich
[15:40] <bazhang> heinrich, also check the notes for ibex
[15:40] <bazhang> !notes
[15:40] <Ryu> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/d680af83e
[15:41] <zsolti> hi
[15:41] <zsolti> everybody
[15:41] <Ryu> bazhang: heres what i followed http://spring.clan-sy.com/wiki/Ubuntu_install
[15:41] <jhutchins_wk> Anybody extend the speed benchmarks that show decreasing performance with the recent releases to see if Ibex reverses this trend?
[15:41] <Kundokaani> is there any click and play way install softwares and plungins to kubuntu. example that gnash blugin for mozilla
[15:42] <bazhang> Ryu, it is not in your sources.list
[15:42] <Ryu> but i added it through the gui
[15:42] <Ryu> of adept
[15:43] <bazhang> Ryu, hardy or ibex
[15:43] <Ryu> intrepid
[15:43] <zsolti> I need some help
[15:43] <zsolti> can anyone help me
[15:43] <zsolti> ?
[15:43] <Ryu> bazhang sheldon
[15:43] <bazhang> Kundokaani, kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:44] <bazhang> Ryu, it is not in the list.
[15:44] <Authority> zsolti: only if you tell us what your problem is
[15:45] <Ryu> bazhang if the list is in /etc/apt/sources.list then why does  http://spring.clan-sy.com/wiki/Ubuntu_install tell me to add the repo's to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/springproject.list ?
[15:45] <bazhang> Ryu, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and add that line with no #in front of it
[15:45] <Ryu> k
[15:45] <bazhang> Ryu, then save it and sudo apt-get update
[15:56] <christian86> Hello, need help with dosbox (with sound = problems, without sound = no problems); konsole tells: ALSA:Can't subscribe to MIDI port (65:0) nor (17:0) MIDI:Opened device:oss
[15:57] <Ryu> bazhang still nothing.. it doesnt show up in either apt gui (synaptic and adept) but it does show up like before when it wasnt in the sources.list in terminal
[15:57] <Ryu> ,*
[15:58] <bazhang> Ryu, please paste.ubuntu.com with the new sources.list
[15:58] <Ryu> http://pastebin.com/d7f65ab3
[15:58] <Ryu> bazhang *
[15:59] <bazhang> Ryu, then sudo apt-get update
[15:59] <bazhang> Ryu, and sudo apt-get install spring
[15:59] <Ryu> yes but why isnt it showing up in the gui's?
[16:00] <bazhang> Ryu, is it installed?
[16:00] <Ryu> hold on
[16:01] <Ryu> bazhang downloading 8 min
[16:01] <sfears> is there anyone that can help me with nvidia issues after the upgrade to intrepid?
[16:01] <bazhang> sfears, which card
[16:01] <sfears> geforce 440
[16:02] <bazhang> sfears, did you check the notes?
[16:02] <bazhang> !notes
[16:02] <sfears> will check
[16:03] <Ryu> oh its intrepid ibex k i thought it was just intrepid
[16:03] <Ryu> whats the next one called?
[16:03] <christian86> Hello, need help with dosbox (with sound = problems, without sound = no problems); konsole tells: ALSA:Can't subscribe to MIDI port (65:0) nor (17:0) MIDI:Opened device:oss
[16:03] <faileas> Jaunty Jackalope
[16:03] <bazhang> !jaunty
[16:03] <Ryu> lol who comes up with these names ?
[16:05] <sfears> bazhang: ok, so i can't enable the nvidia drivers.  Now i have two questions, how do i enable the nv driver, and how do i drop back to 8.04?
[16:05] <Ryu> !intrepid
[16:05] <Ryu> soz
[16:05] <bazhang> sfears, drop back? as in downgrade? there is only one way to do that...
[16:05] <sfears> i figured such
[16:05] <sfears> ok.. how do i enable the nv drivers
[16:06] <Ryu> sfears i used envy
[16:06] <bazhang> sfears, this is kubuntu?
[16:06] <sfears> yes
[16:06] <bazhang> you could try envyng-qt
[16:06] <bazhang> not sure if it works with ibex though
[16:06] <sfears> and why doesn't dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg give me the options for video drivers anymore?
[16:06] <bazhang> !info envyng-qt
[16:07] <bazhang> sfears, that stopped working in gutsy
[16:07] <sfears> ohhh
[16:07] <sfears> so where do i configure that now?
[16:07] <bazhang> xorg is largely superfluous now
[16:07] <ryu_> * You have been killed by services. (collision) * Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). wth?
[16:08] <Ash-Fox> ryu_, someone else was using the same nickname.
[16:08] <ryu_> Ash-Fox but i had it before
[16:08] <uman> Hi there, ive been trying to share a connection between my ubuntu pc and my xbox 360. i read a tutorial on how to do it with firestarter, but i always get an error sasying eht0 interface is not ready. is there an easy way to do it with ubuntu 8.10? i currently have 8.04 and will upgrade soon. thanks
[16:08] <Ash-Fox> ryu_, and?
[16:08] <ryu_> its mine
[16:08] <ryu_> :(
[16:08] <Ash-Fox> ryu_, it's not even registered.
[16:08] <Ash-Fox> -NickServ- ryu_ is not registered.
[16:09] <ryu_> no i was using Ryu
[16:09] <mog_> hello
[16:09] <Ash-Fox> Ryu is owned.
[16:09] <ryu_> :( by who ? ill hunthim down
[16:09] <Ash-Fox> Information on ryu (account ryu): Registered : Jul 27 18:19:40 2005 (3 years, 14 weeks, 1 day, 21:49:36 ago) Last seen  : now Flags      : HideMail, Private
[16:09] <ryu_> zomg hes had it for ages
[16:09] <zsolti> can anyone use the windows wireless driver program? I have some problems
[16:10] <Ash-Fox> I've had mine longer.
[16:10] <mog_> i've get a processus wich use more than 90% ressource of preoccesor , it's name is whiptail
[16:10] <Ash-Fox> zsolti, yes.
[16:10] <Ryunix> boom
[16:10] <Ash-Fox> zsolti, it works 100% fine here.
[16:10] <mog_> it's normale
[16:10] <mog_> ?
[16:11] <mog_> how kill it?
[16:11] <mog_> it's dangerous?
[16:11] <Ash-Fox> mog_, it's a dialogbox.
[16:11] <Ryunix> anyone else seen this ? http://openpandora.org/
[16:11] <mog_> Asf-Fox dialogbox , meaning?
[16:12] <bentob0x> when you have a console open in Konqueror while in filemanagement mode, the console doesn't cd '/the/folder/you/just/clicked/on' when you click on a folder where Dolphin does
[16:12] <mog_> and he take a longer time :/
[16:12] <Ash-Fox> mog, are you curently running adept?
[16:13] <mog_> euh no but dpkg
[16:13] <sfears> my file menus in konqueror has dissapeared.. menus in all my other applications seem to be fine.  any ideas??
[16:13] <sfears> my file menus in konqueror have* dissapeared.. menus in all my other applications seem to be fine.  any ideas??
[16:13] <Ash-Fox> mog_ finish what you're doing in dpkg
[16:13] <Ash-Fox> mog_, it's the message windows used by packages.
[16:14] <w8tah> hi folks -- ive got a box im working on -- i cant get any sound out -- it shows up in lspci as: 02:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)    i cant seem to find how to use the kmenu to enable the sound system etc --
[16:14] <zsolti> my driver softver is a .exe file and the program need .inf file
[16:14] <zsolti> [15:58] <zsolti> what do you think? what can i do?
[16:14] <mog_> it doesn't work because he say me that there are not enough ressource
[16:14] <w8tah> any help is very appreciated
[16:14] <Ash-Fox> mog_, then cancel.
[16:14] <mog_> it's done
[16:14] <mog_> but how kill this processus
[16:14] <mog_> ?
[16:14] <Ash-Fox> mog_, sudo killall -9 whiptail
[16:15] <mog_> killall or kill?
[16:15] <Ash-Fox> mog_, sudo killall -9 whiptail
[16:15] <Ash-Fox> That should kill whiptail with extreme prejudice.
[16:15] <mog_> thank you
[16:16] <mog_> why this processus take so much ressource?
[16:16] <Ash-Fox> It's in a loop, waiting for input from the user.
[16:17] <Ash-Fox> One of those things that was not quite coded so correctly from debian.
[16:18] <Ash-Fox> mog_, see for yourself, run this in konsole: whiptail --msgbox "hello world" 10 20
[16:18] <Ash-Fox> That's all it is.
[16:20] <mog_> ya it work
[16:20] <w8tah> where can i find the enable sound system setting in kubuntu intrepid
[16:20] <Ash-Fox> mog_, that's what the program does. Just explaining so you know :)
[16:20] <Ash-Fox> w8tah, it's in system settings
[16:21] <w8tah> Ash-Fox, with respect - im IN system settings, sound and i cant find it anywhere --
[16:21] <heinrich> If I play a movie or something the video flashes and goes straight through whatever i put in front.
[16:21] <Ash-Fox> w8tah, system settings -> general -> sound
[16:21] <w8tah> ash -- thats exactly where i am
[16:22] <SmokeyTokez> hello everyone
[16:22] <Ash-Fox> w8tah, you choose the sound system preference there. If you want to use pulse audio, you need to make sure pulse audio is installed - sudo apt-get install pulseaudio
[16:22] <mog_> t thinked that it's my pc config no enough strong for kubuntu
[16:23] <w8tah> Ash-Fox, ok -- i'll reboot - brb
[16:23] <iGoose> oh hi sry, can u talk me russian help chanel one mor time? plz
[16:23] <SmokeyTokez> hey I'm having a problem with my screen resolution, and it gets worse when I install the driver for me Nvidia GeForce 4 MX Video
[16:23] <SmokeyTokez> if anyone can help email me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:23] <bazhang> !ru
[16:24] <iGoose> oh thx
[16:24] <mog_> because i'have only 512MB RAM, 30GB HDD and processor AMD Sempron 1.8 GHz and i've got kubuntu 8.10
[16:25] <SmokeyTokez> he he, mog, are you using an E-Machine?
[16:26] <mog_> E-Machine what'is this?
[16:26] <SmokeyTokez> a computer brand made by Gateway
[16:26] <mog_> i'm sorry i leanr english so i  don't speak/understand very well all aver the word in english
[16:26] <SmokeyTokez> ahh
[16:26] <SmokeyTokez> I see
[16:26] <mog_> Gateway lol
[16:27] <SmokeyTokez> Gateway sucks
[16:27] <mog_> i speak very well french
[16:27] <SmokeyTokez> ummm
[16:27] <SmokeyTokez> Que ceppa la framash? (I don't know if I spelled it right)
[16:27] <SmokeyTokez> is that right mog?
[16:28] <Captain_Haddock> mog_: my mum's PC is more or less the same configuration and it manages OK with 8.10
[16:28] <mog_> no,
[16:28] <Captain_Haddock> effects turned off of course
[16:28] <mog_> Captain
[16:28] <SmokeyTokez> i'll brb room
[16:28] <mog_> ok thanks
[16:28] <legodude> is there any way to have plasma collapse windows from the same app in the taskbar?
[16:28] <mog_> SmokeyTokez , not good french , it does not french ^^
[16:29] <Captain_Haddock> legodude: you mean like group the same app together like in windows?
[16:29] <legodude> exactly
[16:30] <Captain_Haddock> legodude: not sure. Haven't seen it.
[16:30] <Captain_Haddock> 4.1?
[16:30] <w8tah> Ash-Fox,  i installed pulse audio -- everything is full up and unmuted
[16:30] <w8tah> no sound
[16:31] <legodude> Captain_Haddock: I belive so, 8.10
[16:31] <Captain_Haddock> legodude: you could try asking in #kde
[16:31] <legodude> ah thanks
[16:31] <Captain_Haddock> they probably have a better handle on obscure features :)
[16:31] <legodude> yup
[16:31] <legodude> didn't even think of that
[16:31] <w8tah> the only thing that im seeing is that for some reason if i right click on kmix it wont allow me to unmute it
[16:33] <Captain_Haddock> w8tah: is your soundcard being detected correctly?
[16:33] <w8tah> far as i can tell
[16:33] <w8tah> it shows up in LSPCI
[16:34] <Captain_Haddock> and also in the sound applet in system settings?
[16:34] <w8tah> yes
[16:35] <Captain_Haddock> w8tah: how about in lshw? That should also show which module's being used.
[16:36] <w8tah> yep -- it seems to be there
[16:39] <uman> how do i run sudo on every command i use in terminal? sudo -i?
[16:39] <makdaknife> sudo -s
[16:39] <iGoose> and the last time pliase)))
[16:39] <w8tah> Captain_Haddock, it seems to be there
[16:40] <DarkSmoke> hey
[16:40] <DarkSmoke> k3b can burn dual-layer dvds
[16:40] <DarkSmoke> ?
[16:40] <iGoose> rus
[16:42] <iGoose> i wanna rus serv!!! uaaa
[16:42] <Koordin> hi, i've just upgraded to 8.10 but the server X does not start alone and i have to write 'startx' in tty1 in order to launch it, does someone have any idea ?
[16:43] <ek> Koordin: Is KDM set to run at system boot?
[16:43] <w8tah> anyone got any ideas on why my audigy card is not working????
[16:44] <Koordin> i don't know, where can i see that ?
[16:44] <Reptile> I updated to 8.10 but I have problem
[16:44] <Koordin> ek : i don't know, where can i see that ?
[16:44] <ek> w8tah: I had issues with an Audigy card a while back myself. I ended up taking the card back to the store I purchased from 'cause I could never figure it out.
[16:44] <wolf_> hi i installed 8.10 and my screen flickers every 10 seconds, the restricted modlues hardware manager shwos that terhe is a fglrx driver, but I#m not able to activate it
[16:44] <Reptile> Not able to connect with cable
[16:44] <w8tah> oh -- ok
[16:44] <ek> Koordin: Well, there is software you can install to check, or you can use KDE's System Settings area to see/adjust what is set to start at boot time.
[16:45] <ek> Koordin: 8.10, right?
[16:45] <Reptile> how do I enable eth01
[16:45] <Koordin> yes
[16:45] <Koordin> ek: i'll check
[16:45] <ek> Reptile: /etc/init.d/networking start <- What does that say?
[16:46] <Koordin> ek: i've just seek that kdm was not installed
[16:46] <lyhana8> hi, i tried an ubuntu 8.10 with some KDE apps (kopete, gwenview) and i want to downgrade. Can you explain me what does mean that ubuntu 8.04 is LTS and Kubuntu 8.04 isn't.
[16:46] <Koordin> i've installed it and i'll now reboot
[16:46] <ek> Koordin: Okay.
[16:46] <ek> Koordin: Did it ask you about enabling it at boot time?
[16:47] <Koordin> during the install : " Adding system startup for /etc/init.d/kdm ..."
[16:47] <ek> Koordin: Okay. Perfect.
[16:48] <ek> lyhana8: LTS means that that particular version of *Ubuntu will have 3 years of support.
[16:48] <phx591> hi, if I want to mount my vista ntfs partition, kubuntu 8.10 asks for the root password. how can i mount it as a user?
[16:48] <Reptile> onfiguring network interfaces"
[16:48] <ek> LTS = Long Term Support. Non-LTS versions of *Ubuntu get 18 months of support.
[16:49] <ek> Reptile: What does "ifconfig" tell you about your internet connection? Can you paste the output to pastebin?
[16:49] <lyhana8> ek: yep but what about the kubuntu 8.04 and the KDE3 desktop ?
[16:49] <Reptile> and then nothing
[16:49] <ek> phx591: Add a "user" option to the mount line in your /etc/fstab file.
[16:49] <ek> lyhana8: That is Ubuntu 8.04 LTS adjusted for KDE.
[16:50] <Reptile> what should it say, cant copy and paste
[16:50] <ek> lyhana8: In other words, Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron will have another 2.5-ish years of updates.
[16:50] <phx591> ek: there's no fstab entry, cause this is managed by hal I think
[16:50] <lyhana8> ek: KDE4 i lost too much features on KDE4 apps so want to go back to KDE3, but i want to know until when KDE3 will be supported
[16:50] <ek> Reptile: It should list your network interfaces along with their current configuration.
[16:51] <ek> lyhana8: As long as Kubuntu 8.04 LTS Hardy Heron is supported. So, 3 years from release date which was (very rough estimate) 6 months ago.
[16:51] <lyhana8> ek: on wikipedia they emphase the fact that Ubuntu is a LTS and Kubuntu isn't
[16:51] <ek> lyhana8: So, 2.5 more years.
[16:51] <Reptile> inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS> Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:52] <ek> lyhana8: It will continue to be supported for quite a while. I wouldn't worry about it.
[16:52] <wolf_> now my pc has frozen, someone can help me to avoid this flickering and to enable this fglrx driver?
[16:52] <ek> There are many people that choose to stick with the KDE 3.5 desktop for various reasons. No one will be forced into KDE4 for a long time.
[16:52] <lyhana8> ek: ok that seem a pretty good time for KDE4 to get to the level of KDE3 dev
[16:52] <ek> Reptile: There is no eth0 device in the "ifconfig" output?
[16:53] <ek> lyhana8: That's the idea.
[16:53] <Reptile> no
[16:53] <ek> wolf_: How did you install the fglrx driver?
[16:53] <wolf_> ek: I wnated to enable it from this icon in the kicker
[16:53] <ek> Reptile: You may need to get 3rd party proprietary drivers for your network card...
[16:53] <ek> Are you sure a network card is installed?
[16:54] <lyhana8> ek: doens't that divide the development force/dynamism to have KDE3 alongside KDE4 ?
[16:54] <Reptile> Everything worked fine until I updated
[16:54] <ek> Reptile: Updated to what? Intrepid?
[16:54] <Reptile> Yep
[16:55] <cdshan> Hi!  I have downloaded the new version of kubuntu (8.10), I tried to install it, all goes on well till I get to the installation screen and when the screen displays to select the language, the mouse pointer disappears and the system just hangs!  Could someone help me with this?
[16:55] <ek> lyhana8: For the most part, yes. But, devs will be leaving KDE3 for KDE4 at some point. But, serious bugs and such will be fixed in KDE3 still.
[16:55] <ek> lyhana8: Also, it could always fork and two different teams can develop whatever they'd like and go their separate ways.
[16:56] <lyhana8> ek: so KDE3 can still get news features !??
[16:56] <ek> Reptile: What does your /etc/network/interfaces file say? Is there an "eth0" line in there?
[16:56] <ek> lyhana8: Maybe. Depends on how far the KDE devs decide to take KDE3 before moving on.
[16:56] <wolf_> ek: can you help me?
[16:56] <JontheEchidna> no, KDE3 is permanently feature frozen
[16:57] <ek> wolf_: You may need to remove/rename your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file temporarily while you play around with the video card driver(s).
[16:58] <ek> JontheEchidna: Ah. Interesting.
[16:58] <JontheEchidna> basically nobody is working on KDE3 anymore
[16:58] <lyhana8> JontheEchidna: oh~ that's a bad news
[16:59] <Koordin> hi again ek
[16:59] <ek> JontheEchidna: But, bug fixes and such are still undergoing I take it?
[16:59] <ek> Hello, Koordin.
[16:59] <JontheEchidna> not very many, but a few I suppose
[16:59] <cdshan> Hi!  I have downloaded the new version of kubuntu (8.10), I tried to install it, all goes on well till I get to the installation screen and when the screen displays to select the language, the mouse pointer disappears and the system just hangs!  Could someone help me with this?
[16:59] <Reptile> Yes there is
[16:59] <Koordin> ek: now it says in a window that it could not find the oxygen theme ; and then in a console message it says that it will not boot on k display manager because it is not the default
[17:01] <lyhana8> how i can do a clean downgrade to Hardy Heron ?
[17:01] <ek> Reptile: What does the line say?
[17:02] <ek> Koordin: Does it say what is the default?
[17:02] <Koordin> no
[17:02] <Koordin> i'm trying to install kubuntu-kde4-desktop to see
[17:02] <ek> Koordin: Ah. Okay.
[17:02] <stdin> !downgrade | lyhana8
[17:03] <ek> lyhana8: I wouldn't downgrade versions of Kubuntu. Just downgrade your KDE version.
[17:04] <lyhana8> ek: how can i do this ? (i don't know *ubuntu allow this)
[17:04] <ubuntoil> ek: sounds clever but how do you do that ?? uninstall the kde desktop
[17:04] <ubuntoil> compile your kde
[17:04] <ubuntoil> and then "make install" ?
[17:05] <ek> lyhana8: Probably something as simple as an "apt-get install kubuntu-kde-desktop".
[17:05] <daler> hello
[17:05] <lyhana8> ubuntoil: that's the gentoo way ^^y
[17:05] <ek> lyhana8: Then, of course, logging into KDE3 instead.
[17:05] <ek> ubuntoil: No. I wouldn't go that far. I'd leave KDE3 and KDE4 installed.
[17:05] <ubuntoil> lyhana8: because I'd like to upgrade to 8.10 but I don't want kde 4
[17:05] <ubuntoil> ek: not suppored any longer in 8.10
[17:06] <cdshan> Hi!  I have downloaded the new version of kubuntu (8.10), I tried to install it, all goes on well till I get to the installation screen and when the screen displays to select the language, the mouse pointer disappears and the system just hangs!  Could someone help me with this?
[17:06] <lyhana8> i don't follow you on how downgrade KDE
[17:06] <ek> ubuntoil: Well, you may very well need to delete the KDE4 IDE then.
[17:06] <ubuntoil> lyhana8: 8.04 or 8.10 ??
[17:06] <ek> And then install KDE3 instead.
[17:07] <ek> s/I//g
[17:07] <Koordin> ek: after having installed kubuntu-kde4-desktop, i have the same problem
[17:07] <lyhana8> ubuntoil:  currently on 8.10
[17:07] <ek> Koordin: What does "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" give you?
[17:08] <ek> Does it prompt you to make it the default and such?
[17:09] <Koordin> ek: no output
[17:11] <Darthfrog> Has anyone got Flash working on Intrepid AMD64 & firefox?
[17:14] <Koordin> ek:  ?
[17:14] <Linuturk> ummm
[17:15] <sfears> i need some help enabling ndiswrapper & wireless cards
[17:15] <Tm_T> !wifi | sfears
[17:16] <sfears> i guess i should rephrase that.. i need help with ndiswrapper in 8.10, it doesn't seem to work like it used to
[17:16] <Linuturk> I've been playing with the Kubuntu 8.10 live cd, and the screen seems to flicker a lot.  Any ideas why? Compositing seems to be on, and I have this problem on Ubuntu as well, but not to this degree. It only happens on startup with Ubuntu, and goes away after that unless I am using a Wine application.
[17:16] <sfears> the drivers are loaded but not wireless networks are detected.
[17:16] <sfears> the drivers are loaded but no* wireless networks are detected.
[17:19] <ShawnRisk> hey all, I am running kubuntu 7.04 in a virtual machine and wondering if there was a way to get internet working.  I have tried everything and not working, but this use to work.  Ideas?
[17:20] <Darthfrog> ShawnRisk: An old version in an unusual environment?  Good luck.
[17:20] <ShawnRisk> :P
[17:20] <ShawnRisk> this is the only version that works in Parallels on my mac
[17:21] <ralpho_> if nothing else you could try to fake it like its static just a idea been awhile sense i used vm
[17:21] <Darthfrog> Does it see the virtual network card?
[17:22] <ShawnRisk> yes
[17:22] <Darthfrog> Can you assign a static IP and gateway to it?
[17:24] <ShawnRisk> I only have the lo when I did ifconfig and I am running wireless on my mac
[17:24] <ShawnRisk> ideas?
[17:24] <Darthfrog> Then it doesn't see the virtual network card, it seems.
[17:25] <lyhana8> i'll reinstall kubuntu 8.04, thx for help
[17:26] <ShawnRisk> I have this on Shared Networking
[17:27] <ShawnRisk> used to work
[17:28] <uman> Hi, can you guys help me getting firestarter firewall to start everytime i boot up ubuntu, even if its a limited user that logs in? thanks
[17:28] <ShawnRisk> Darthfrog: any other ideas?
[17:28] <stdin> uman: it does, it's just the GUI that doesn't start by default
[17:28] <uman> ok thanks
[17:29] <jussi01> !bum | uman
[17:29] <uman> stdin, anyway to get the ui to strat also
[17:29] <Darthfrog> ShawnRisk: I don't know Parallels.  But until it gives your virtual machine a proper virtual NIC, you aren't going anywhere.
[17:29] <jussi01> !autostart | uman
[17:29] <stdin> if you don't close the UI then it will normally be started when you login, else see ↑
[17:32] <Koordin> ek: not here anymore ?
[17:37] <pritam> how can i remove a use locale using shell
[17:38] <KDesk> I have a DVD Image and also the DVD files copyed to my HD. With witch program can I transform them to Xvid?
[17:39] <Darthfrog> KDesk: Have a look at dvdrip.
[17:39] <NauarchLysander> Is there a KDE equivalent to update-manager? I just uninstalled everything that had to do with GNOME and now I'm not able to get automatic updates.
[17:40] <Darthfrog> !adept | NauarchLysander
[17:40] <KDesk> Darthfrog: I have already looked at DVD:rip, but it is a bit odd, I have to select every chapter and choose witch codec to use in every.
[17:41] <KDesk> NauarchLysander: You can also install the kubunut-desktop metapackage, or take a look to it
[17:44] <NauarchLysander> Well, I looked at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto. Unfotunately, in my version of Adept (3.0 Beta 4) there is no button labeled 'Fetch Updates'.
[17:45] <pritam> language help
[17:46] <Grubbolo> Hi... How do I mount a floppy in 8.10 ?
[17:47] <KDesk> NauarchLysander: In the adept manager (not installer) in sources there is the option to fetch package list
[17:47] <NauarchLysander> KDesk: That's it?
[17:47] <KDesk> Grubbolo: mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy-mount-point
[17:48] <KDesk> Grubbolo: maybe you have to use -t vfat
[17:48] <KDesk> NauarchLysander: Yes, but you have to use the apdept manager, not the apept add & remove software
[17:48] <larsivi> can I have the new krunner open on Alt+Space?
[17:48] <Grubbolo> KDesk: I installed kde4 in my gf PC... I can't tell her to open a shell :-)
[17:48] <KDesk> NauarchLysander: Search in the K menu for adept and launch the manager option
[17:49] <int3grate>  i'm trying to install 8.10 on a computer, and once i hit enter to install it, the screen goes blank and the monitor says "input out of range"
[17:49] <int3grate> is there anyway to change the x server settings before hitting the install option?
[17:49] <KDesk> Grubbolo: maybe there is a Kfloppy utility, but I dont know cause I dont have floppies anymore
[17:50] <NauarchLysander> KDesk: Yes, it's the Adept Manager. I fetched the packages and now it says that the operation finished successfully and no operation is in progress. Does that mean there are no updates? I did not update my system since last Friday.
[17:50] <KDesk> int3grate: you can also try the alternate cd
[17:50] <KDesk> NauarchLysander: yes, updates are not every day... Sometimes, but onces a week mostly
[17:51] <NauarchLysander> KDesk: OK, thanks for your help.
[17:52] <KDesk> Grubbolo: install from adept kfloppy
[17:52] <int3grate> thanks KDesk, didn't know there was a text based installation cd
[17:52] <pritam> how do i remove the unwanted language pack using shell
[17:53] <KDesk> pritam: sudo apt-get remore language-pack-xx
[17:53] <KDesk> pritam: also language-support-translations-xx
[17:54] <KDesk> language-support-xx
[18:04] <wolf_> i installed 8.10 and my screen flickers ek, you told me to rename/remove the xorg.conf file, I did and then X wont start, and the xorg.conf is completly empty
[18:05] <DaSkreech> wolf_: Boot into the recovery console and choose xfix
[18:06] <KDesk> wolf_: maybe you have to disable the xrandr detect option in system settins
[18:07] <wolf_> DaSkreech: why, the only problem I have is that i cant enable fglrx from the hardware manager (restricted modules)
[18:07] <KDesk> *settings
[18:07] <DaSkreech> Ah
[18:07] <wolf_> KDesk: what is xrandr
[18:08] <KDesk> wolf_: I don't know exactly :) But I have had a similar problem and I have Disabled in System Settings -> Advanced tab ->Service manager and stoped "Detecting RANDER"
[18:09] <valeria> martin_riggs
[18:10] <DaSkreech> Pretty quiet in here
[18:10] <Tm_T> good
[18:11] <irish> Hi everybody! It wouldn't be quiet! Because I have a question.
[18:11] <dr_willis> hmmm
[18:11] <irish>  do you know where I can disable automount for specific USB device in kde 3.5 ? (there is no record in fstab)
[18:12] <dr_willis> i think you would have to make cuseomized hal/udev rules for that specific device
[18:12] <valeria> hello
[18:12] <dr_willis> or perhaps make a fstab entry based on the devices label/uuid -
[18:12] <DaSkreech> !hi | valeria
[18:13] <valeria> Cciao
[18:14] <irish> dr_willis: how to make this rules ? Kde mounts great usb devices exept of my Photo Camera. Whet kde automount finds it and try to mount like a camera - device complitely disapears from /dev/ Help please.
[18:14] <Tm_T> hi hannascott & others
[18:15] <NetersLandreau> hello all.. i updated to kubuntu 8.10 over the weekend with kde 4.1 but no longer have this file and i was wondering if someone may be able to share their copy with me: KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
[18:15] <x_link> Does anybody here have/had problems with connecting to there wireless?
[18:15] <dr_willis> No idea on the rules.. ive seen guides/examples/tutorials of doing it for specific devices.. but i never really paid much attention to them
[18:15] <hannascott> mmm.... hi Tm_T
[18:15] <dr_willis> My Wireless actually works now under 8.10 :)
[18:16] <valeria> qualcuno mi aiuta????
[18:16] <DaSkreech> !es
[18:16] <DaSkreech> !it
[18:16] <DaSkreech> valeria: ^^^
[18:17] <irish> t
[18:17] <irish> [20:16:39] <ubottu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)
[18:17] <irish> [20:16:43]  jarek<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined channel #kubuntu
[18:17] <irish> [20:16:44] <DaSkreech> valeria: ^^^
[18:17] <Tm_T> irish: ok
[18:17] <irish> Sorrry!!!
[18:17] <x_link> Anybody?
[18:17] <Tm_T> x_link: no problems here, thanks for asking
[18:18] <isaacj87> hey everyone!
[18:18] <irish> NetersLandreau: i can sent you .wav/ Give a e-mail pls.
[18:18] <janorcutt> x_link: you need to find out if its running the right kernel driver module for ur chipset
[18:19] <NetersLandreau> irish: neterslandreau at
[18:19] <NetersLandreau> irish: gmail dor com
[18:19] <NetersLandreau> er dot
[18:20] <valeria> hello I'm an italian student...
[18:20] <x_link> janorcutt: It is.
[18:21] <x_link> janorcutt: I use 2.6.24-21-generic
[18:21] <x_link> Kubuntu Hardy.
[18:21] <x_link> I installed linux-backports-modules-hardy
[18:21] <x_link> janorcutt: Is that what you meant?
[18:21] <irish> NetersLandreau: here you are.
[18:21] <janorcutt> not quite, i had a problem where ubuntu was loading the wrong driver
[18:22] <NetersLandreau> thank you irish :)
[18:22] <janorcutt> if you type modprobe | grep -i -uname wireless it will show you which driver is running
[18:24] <janorcutt> it maybe that its trying to run off the wrong driver, you can change it in network manager
[18:24] <janorcutt> aslong as it's installed
[18:25] <x_link> janorcutt: It's installed yes.
[18:25] <x_link> janorcutt: You have to excuse my english, it isn't that very good.
[18:25] <x_link> janorcutt: I will run that command now.
[18:25] <x_link> modprobe | grep -i -uname wireless
[18:25] <x_link> Should I run that?
[18:25] <janorcutt> yeah it will tell u what drivers running now
[18:27] <stdin> janorcutt: modprobe? you mean "lsmod" ?
[18:27] <stdin> modprobe loads modules, or with -l lists all modules installed
[18:27] <janorcutt> yeah i know sorry long day at work
[18:28] <x_link> janorcutt: Okey, I will run it now.
[18:30] <x_link> janorcutt: That command doesn't work.
[18:30] <x_link> Should I run it with sudo maybe?
[18:32] <janorcutt> no try "lsmod" it will print a load of text to screen. i need help now cuz i can't find my network modules
[18:32] <x_link> lsmod instead of modprobe?
[18:32] <janorcutt> yeah
[18:32] <x_link> OKey.
[18:32] <x_link> Didn't work either.
[18:33] <x_link> sedde@sedde:~$ lsmod | grep -i -uname wireless
[18:33] <x_link> grep: invalid max count
[18:33] <janorcutt> just lsmod sorry
[18:33] <x_link> Hehe okey =)
[18:34] <x_link> janorcutt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/66870/
[18:34] <x_link> janorcutt: I don't understand much of that.
[18:35] <janorcutt> iwl3945, ok this is the one
[18:35] <x_link> Yeah.
[18:35] <janorcutt> whats ur hardware
[18:36] <x_link> janorcutt: I have a Lenovo 3000 N200
[18:36] <stdin> iwl3945.ko: description:    Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG/BG Network Connection driver for Linux
[18:36] <x_link> Intel Dual-Core 1.86GHz, 3GB DDR2, 160GB HDD, Intel X3100 etc.
[18:36] <janorcutt> same 1 i got on my laptop, works in suse but that dont help here
[18:37] <x_link> janorcutt: Hehe
[18:39] <janorcutt> ok try this
[18:39] <janorcutt> sudo rmmod -f iwl3945
[18:40] <janorcutt> sudo modprobe iwl3945 disable_hw_scan=1
[18:40] <janorcutt> if that doesn't work then i dont know
[18:42] <wolf_> ok now i set off the randr auto-detection and my flickering is gone, thx a lot, but I am still not able to enable fglrx in the hardwre- manager for restricted modules
[18:43] <x_link> janorcutt: Sorry, I was talking with a friend on my cell.
[18:43] <x_link> janorcutt: I have already done -> sudo rmmod -f iwl3945 and sudo modprobe irl3945 disable_hw_scan=1
[18:44] <janorcutt> sorry then i dont know... worked 4 me
[18:44] <wolf_> there is a option to use fglrx but when i wnat to enable it it isnt possible
[18:44] <x_link> janorcutt: Okey.
[18:44] <wolf_> i have a radeon gfx card
[18:51] <Rob71> join #ubuntu-it
[18:51] <Rob71> sorry i wrong
[18:52] <buntfalke> hi
[18:52] <buntfalke> Is it normal that print jobs are lost after some time of not being printed?
[18:54] <luis_lopez> Hi, how do I change the appearance of kde3 applications in Intrepid? There is no kcontrol package anymore...
[19:00] <ShishKabab> Hello. I'd like to install 7z on Kubuntu 8.10 with the command 'sudo apt-get install 7z', but I get the error message 'E: Package 7z has no installation candidate'. Any ideas?
[19:01] <x_link> ShishKabab: sudo aptitude install p7zip
[19:02] <x_link> ShishKabab: It didn't work cause there is no file called 7z.
[19:02] <x_link> ShishKabab: aptitude search 7zip will tell you.
[19:03] <ShishKabab> Ok. And I get the same message for ktouch-kde4. Do I need to add an extra repository for KDE4 apps?
[19:03] <x_link> Proberly, don't know for sure.
[19:05] <ShishKabab> The strange this is that when I do sudo apt-get install ktouch <tab> <tab> ktouch-kde4 shows up, but when I do aptitude search ktouch it doesn't.
[19:05] <ShishKabab> Same thing for 7z
[19:06] <x_link> ShishKabab: The file is not called 7z, I just told you that =)
[19:07] <elitrou> hi guys - anyone here running 8.10 on 64bit platform?
[19:08] <ShishKabab> I know, but why does it show up in my tab completion. (I installed p7zip successfuly by the way)
[19:09] <hoonteke> Using Kubuntu Ibex.  How do I change, set, or use my keyboard to switch between virtual desktops/
[19:12] <DaSkreech> hoonteke: With Kwin ^Fn
[19:12] <hoonteke> ah, *there* it is.  thanks, DaSkreech
[19:13] <hoonteke> alright, looking through the shortcuts.  What is the Screen?  As in Screen 0, Screen 1, 2 3 .. etc.
[19:13] <DaSkreech> hoonteke: Monitors
[19:13] <DaSkreech> I think
[19:13] <hoonteke> oh, that's cool.  Good to know for future reference.
[19:13] <DaSkreech> ShishKabab: what doesn't?
[19:13] <DaSkreech> elitrou: Ask your question
[19:14] <DaSkreech> luis_lopez: No clue. Don't know if you can
[19:14] <DaSkreech> buntfalke: 8.10 ?
[19:15] <buntfalke> DaSkreech: uhm...the last kubuntu with 3.5.9
[19:15] <buntfalke> whatever version that was again :-)
[19:15] <ShishKabab> DaSkreech: Lots of things. truecrypt, php5-mysqli, php5-mysqli, kdesvn-kde4, etc.
[19:15] <DaSkreech> 8.04
[19:15] <hoonteke> DaSkreech: is there a way to make my own shortcut?
[19:16] <elitrou> it seems that new xorg takes much more memory
[19:16] <DaSkreech> ShishKabab: When you try tab complete in apt-get ?
[19:16] <elitrou> about 60M here
[19:16] <DaSkreech> hoonteke: To do what? but yes there is
[19:16] <elitrou> right on start
[19:16] <DaSkreech> elitrou: memory usage is a black art in Linux
[19:17] <elitrou> DaSkreech: explain yourself...
[19:17] <ShishKabab> DaSkreech: Yes. And in aptitude.
[19:17] <hoonteke> weird, lost my keyboard for a minute.
[19:18] <hoonteke> DaSkreech.  I like Ctrl+Alt+t to open a terminal.
[19:18] <DaSkreech> elitrou: Xorg may be reporting a certain amount but it's quite likely that a lot of it is also inclusive aof apps that are making heavy ue of xlibs so it's also a lot ofthe programs already open
[19:18] <DaSkreech>  So the same memory gets reported multiple times
[19:19] <hoonteke> elitrou: heh: it's taking double + that here.  xorg has 263m vit, and 110res.  blech!
[19:19] <hoonteke> vit=virt
[19:19] <elitrou> DaSkreech: so it's a bu in a system monitor?
[19:19] <elitrou> bug
[19:19] <DaSkreech> A lot of times if you add up the amount of memory being used by apps it is far far higher than the amount of memory used as the memory is counted upmany times
[19:20] <DaSkreech> elitrou: No it's a side effect of how Linux uses libraries and reuses components
[19:20] <elitrou> and i have 2 xorgs running
[19:20] <NetSKaVeN> hell-o!
[19:20] <DaSkreech> elitrou: They are likely to be using some significant portion of the same resources
[19:20] <DaSkreech> So you will get large uses but maybe 1/4 of it is shared
[19:20] <elitrou> why do i need both?
[19:21] <DaSkreech> elitrou: I don't know you started them :)
[19:21] <DaSkreech> !hi | NetSKaVeN
[19:21] <elitrou> root started them...
[19:21] <elitrou> :)
[19:21] <DaSkreech> Root almost alsways starts them
[19:21] <DaSkreech> unless you ran startx or X yourself
[19:22] <DaSkreech> but there are lots of things that you can press in the GUI that will spawn a new X
[19:22] <elitrou> it starts on the start up
[19:23] <DaSkreech> Ah hmm never noticed that
[19:24] <squid0> hi. what's a good virtual machine/emulator to try an ISO in?
[19:25] <elitrou> and the new 8.10 feels slower than the old 8.04, both running with KDE 4.1.2
[19:25] <sharperguy> Anyone know the easiest way to remove kubuntu-kde4-desktop from ubuntu?
[19:25] <Darthfrog> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[19:26] <Darthfrog> or sudo apt-get -purge remove kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[19:26] <elitrou> sharperguy: or you can use GUI like synaptic or adept
[19:26] <sharperguy> Umm yeah I tried that but obviously it didn't remove dependencies, and "sudo apt-get autoremove" didn't define them as no longer needed
[19:27] <DaSkreech> squid0: That one that you like
[19:27] <DaSkreech> sharperguy: Remove kdelibs*
[19:27] <sharperguy> hmm ok
[19:27] <sharperguy> wait will that kill amarok-1.4?
[19:27] <DaSkreech> sharperguy: kdelibs5 and kdelibs4c2a
[19:27] <squid0> DaSkreech: oh, which was that again?
[19:28] <DaSkreech> sharperguy: That will remove anything that needs KDE libraries
[19:28] <DaSkreech> sharperguy: just reinstall which app you want at the end
[19:28] <sharperguy> Well I just want to get rid of the kde4 stuff for the desktop
[19:28] <DaSkreech> squid0: Probably virtualbox :)
[19:28] <DaSkreech> sharperguy: This is cleaner.
[19:28] <sharperguy> hmm ok
[19:28] <squid0> DaSkreech: ok. I'm trying qemu
[19:29] <vasilisa> upgraded to kubuntu intrepid, and im having a problem with some programs. It seems when i try to delete a file i get this: Could not start process Unable to create ioslave: unknown protocol 'trash'
[19:29] <DaSkreech> squid0: Oh yeah tat's nice and light. Not gui friendly though
[19:29] <DaSkreech> vasilisa: that's strange
[19:29] <squid0> DaSkreech: there's a wrapper program written in python called qemulatr
[19:29] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: Happens with gwenview and amarok so far
[19:29] <squid0> *qemulator
[19:29] <cisco_> HALP
[19:30] <DaSkreech> vasilisa: Dolphin ?
[19:30] <vasilisa> it allows deletion, but not trash
[19:30] <DaSkreech> !ask | cisco_
[19:30] <cisco_> got my weenie in a bottle baby and i just cant get it out
[19:30] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: Dolphin works fine. so does konqueror
[19:30] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: But thats not where i organize my media
[19:30] <DaSkreech> vasilisa: That's funky.
[19:30] <cisco_>  i organize media in my pubic hair
[19:30] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: Seems like a lot is funky since i upgraded >.<
[19:31] <cisco_> how do i bypass security and get on the interwebs
[19:31] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: I couldnt get keyboard shortcuts to work AT ALL, so i had to install xhotkeys and use that
[19:31] <DaSkreech> !ops | cisco_ is being fun
[19:31] <sharperguy> cisco_, the GAME not get out
[19:31] <vasilisa> none of these problems are just me, google-fu finds them, but no one has answers.
[19:31] <DaSkreech> vasilisa: Did you have any shortcut keys defined in configure -> Configure shortcuts ?
[19:31] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: Yes.
[19:32] <DaSkreech> blaaa
[19:32] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: I tried EVERYTHING, believe me ;)
[19:32] <DaSkreech> THanks PriceChild
[19:32] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: I finally checked disable khotkeys, deleted all the shortcuts, removed all the kmenu shortcuts, and used xbindkeys entirely. and it works.
[19:33] <DaSkreech> You really shouldnt have to do that :-(
[19:33] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[19:33] <irish> Why when I plug in my Olympus usb camera firstly it appears in /dev/ like /dev/sdb1 and after kde tries to mount it, it disappears from /dev/ and kde says: no such device ?
[19:33] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: Its worse. Every time i go to configure shortcuts, the list of shortcut options doubles.
[19:33] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: so its like "konsole konsole konsole konsole konsole..."
[19:34] <DaSkreech> vasilisa: run that by me again. The list of actions that you can assign a shortcut to grows?
[19:34] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: Yep. Dupilcate entries.
[19:34] <DaSkreech> irish: how does KDE try to mount iy?
[19:34] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: its like its loading the list into itself
[19:34] <DaSkreech> vasilisa: like  set of duplicates then 2 sets then 3 sets etc ?
[19:34] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: yep
[19:35] <DaSkreech> Upgrade?
[19:35] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: This is a fresh install, so ive done nothing lol
[19:35] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: No, fresh from a cd
[19:35] <DaSkreech> with an existing home parition?
[19:35] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: no, i formatted the root partition
[19:36] <DaSkreech> Right but you  had a  home partition?
[19:36] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: I did, but i had accidently "sudo rm *" in /usr/lib, so i had to format that whole partition
[19:36] <vasilisa> my /home is on the same partition as /
[19:37] <DaSkreech> ah that sucks
[19:37] <vasilisa> i keep personal data on a data partition
[19:37] <DaSkreech> ok now that's confusing
[19:37] <DaSkreech>  /home is your personal data :)
[19:37] <vasilisa> nah, i use it to hold the .app config directories
[19:37] <vasilisa> and the Desktop folder
[19:38] <irish> DaSkreech: it opens USB Storage Interface window and asks what to do. I select open in new window, Dolphin opens with blank window and in the bottom of window written: Can't read file ....
[19:38] <DaSkreech> irish:
[19:38] <Ketrel> I edited the config options in Print Manager to change "Cups Server" user to another name.
[19:38] <DaSkreech> ok When that opens dont click anything open dolphin and go to /dev and highlight the entry for the camera
[19:38] <Ryunix> i am trying to install a plasmoid ( Toggle-Compositing 0.2.1 ) but i get this error http://pastebin.com/d61b7d38c anyone can help me out ?
[19:38] <DaSkreech> then click ok and see if it disappaears then
[19:38] <Ketrel> And that gives the desirable results when I use something like kate or kwrite, however when I run open office, it still sends jobs as mself
[19:38] <DaSkreech> I want to see if it's hal or KDE making it go away
[19:39] <Ketrel> is there any way to change that?
[19:39] <DaSkreech> Ketrel: Look how Openoffice handles printing?
[19:39] <Ketrel> It does not have any option to define the name as far as I saw
[19:39] <Ketrel> Is there any way to change it system wide
[19:40] <DaSkreech> Change it in cups
[19:40] <DaSkreech> But that's assuming that everyone uses CUPS and respects the changes made in it
[19:40] <Ryunix> anyone can help me ? ^
[19:41] <DaSkreech> Ryunix: Where are you installing it from?
[19:41] <Ketrel> DaSkreech: and how do I do that, I don't see any way in CUPS to change the name used
[19:41] <DaSkreech> vasilisa: https://launchpad.net/bugs/220940
[19:41]  * DaSkreech shrugs. I dunno I know if you change it in KDE all KDE apps respect it but OO.o is not a KDE app
[19:41] <DaSkreech> It's not even a Gnome app so it won't respect a Gnome wide change either
[19:42] <Ryunix> daSkreech: ~/.plasmoids
[19:42] <Ketrel> But changing it in CUPS is what I'm trying now, is there no way to do that?
[19:42] <DaSkreech> Ryunix: There is a package for extra plasmoids available I think that's included in there did you install that?
[19:42] <DaSkreech> Ketrel: No clue
[19:42] <Ryunix> no
[19:42] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: *blinks*
[19:42] <Ryunix> thnx
[19:43] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: This is a vague bug
[19:44] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: migration issues....
[19:45] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: But i didnt do an upgrade, i installed directly
[19:45] <Koordin> hi
[19:45] <DaSkreech> Yeah but I can't think of what else I can put so that you can post a whole slew of bugs in one plce
[19:45] <DaSkreech> !hi
[19:46] <irish> DaSkreech: I cant check now. It remembered my choice and try to open it automatically. I should logoff and logon and connect Camera again ?
[19:46] <vasilisa> wow... this is a problem >.<
[19:46] <vasilisa> well im not worried about the shortcut problem, because i fixed it. but not being able to send to trash in gwenview and amarok is epic fail
[19:46] <DaSkreech> irish: You should just be able to disconnect the camera and reconnect
[19:46] <DaSkreech> JontheEchidna: Ever heard of that?
[19:47] <JontheEchidna> heard of what?
[19:47] <Koordin> i've upgraded to 8.10, and now the X server does not start automatically, there is this error : first it says in a window that it did not find the oxygen theme and then in the console "Not starting K Display Manager (kdm-kde4) : it is not the default display manager" ; i have to 'startx' in tty1 in order to launch the xserver, and there are some bugs of display ; could someone help me ?
[19:48] <DaSkreech> JontheEchidna: ioslave trash existing for some apps but not others
[19:48] <DaSkreech> Koordin: sudo apt-get install kdm-kde4 --reinstall
[19:49] <DaSkreech> Tell it that you want it to be the default DM when it asks
[19:49] <JontheEchidna> I know trash won't work for digikam
[19:49] <DaSkreech> Why?
[19:49] <DaSkreech> SHould work for Gwenview though
[19:49] <vasilisa> bet its the same reason
[19:49] <vasilisa> the problem is definately in klauncher.
[19:49] <vasilisa> thats the error message
[19:50] <vasilisa> Im sure the KDE guys are working on fixing this
[19:50] <Koordin> DaSkreech: i have this error when i try to install kdm-kde4
[19:50] <Koordin> http://pastebin.com/d1c60a0f7
[19:51] <JontheEchidna> DaSkreech: digikam for kde3 doesn't use the kioslave, :P
[19:51] <sourcemaker> is there a release date for kde 4.1.3?
[19:51] <DaSkreech> Koordin: Of course :) just use kdm in the comman
[19:51] <DaSkreech> d
[19:51] <DaSkreech> sourcemaker: yes
[19:51] <JontheEchidna> sourcemaker: Nov 5
[19:52] <sourcemaker> JontheEchidna: thanks
[19:52] <sourcemaker> JontheEchidna: next problem... i have a fonts rendering problem... a lots of fonts are ugly... on a mouse over... everthink is fine... how can I solve?
[19:52] <JontheEchidna> sourcemaker: any way you could get a screenshot?
[19:53] <DaSkreech> vasilisa: what error?
[19:54] <Koordin> but DaSkreech i was already  having another problem before installing kdm ; and then i installed it and i think that it is now the default display manager and there is now this error (that says that the oxygen was not found ; etc.)
[19:54] <DaSkreech> Koordin: What are you trying to do?
[19:54] <Koordin> DaSkreech: i'm trying to have the display of the desktop at the startup of my machine with no error
[19:54] <vasilisa> DaSkreech: in amarok/gwenview, the error comes from klauncher
[19:55] <Koordin> and without having to write 'startx'
[19:55] <DaSkreech> vasilisa: ok
[19:55] <DaSkreech> Koordin: reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[19:56] <Koordin> DaSkreech: i think that i've already tried ; but i'll try again
[19:56] <Koordin> i'll reboot and tell you
[19:57] <vasilisa> oh wells.
[19:58] <vasilisa> see you guys, thanks for listening to my problem
[19:59] <irish> There is no difference if I press "open in another window" or don't
[20:00] <Ramblurr> Woo!  http://digg.com/software/Amarok_2_0_beta_3_Ataksak_released Everybody Digg it!
[20:00] <irish> If hal is stopped camera appears in /dev like /dev/sde1
[20:01] <Koordin> DaSkreech: i always have the same error message : "Can not open theme file /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/oxygen"
[20:01] <isaacj87> Ramblurr: sweet! do you know which repo it'll hit?
[20:01] <Koordin> and then, in the console "Not starting K Display Manager (kdm-kde4) ; it is not the default display manager"
[20:01] <Ramblurr> isaacj87: packagers got it several days ago.. it will hit intrepid for sure
[20:01] <Ramblurr> not sure about hardy
[20:01] <Koordin> does someone have an idea ?
[20:02] <DaSkreech> Koordin: install kde-icons-oxygen
[20:02] <Koordin> "kde-icons-oxygen is already the newest version."
[20:03] <isaacj87> Ramblurr: do you mean it'll be in the Kubuntu-Members PPA? or the actual intrepid repos?
[20:03] <Koordin> DaSkreech: i reinstall it ?
[20:03] <richard> evening everyone
[20:03] <DaSkreech> oxygen-cursor-theme
[20:03] <irish>  DaSkreech: camera doesn't appear in /dev . If I stop hal it appears after camera reconnect. And even kernel logs are different
[20:03] <Koordin> DaSkreech: also already installed
[20:04] <Koordin> ping
[20:05] <Koordin> forgot the '/', sorry
[20:06] <Ramblurr> isaacj87: ask JontheEchidna
[20:06] <isaacj87> Ramblurr: will do. thanks :)
[20:07] <JontheEchidna> There are instructions for beta2 at kubuntu.org
[20:07] <JontheEchidna> in about an hour and a half those instructions should allow you to install beta3
[20:07] <isaacj87> JontheEchidna: Thanks!
[20:08] <JontheEchidna> gotta wait for the packages to build on the server
[20:08] <Koordin> hi i had this problem after upgrading to 8.10 : now when i try to boot i have this error message in a window : "Can not open theme file /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/oxygen" ; and then in the console : "Not starting K Display Manager (kdm-kde4) ; it is not the default display manager". Then in order to launch xserver i have to write 'startx' in tty1 and it works but it is a little buggy. Could someone help me ?
[20:09] <isaacj87> JontheEchidna: Ah. I see, I was checking the PPA to see if the packages were currently being built. I guess that explains it.
[20:09] <JontheEchidna> yup
[20:10] <richardbh> hi - how can I install a screensaver? Ive just installed kubuntu but I only have a blank and a random screensave
[20:10] <isaacj87> richardbh: you have to install the screensaver package
[20:10] <isaacj87> richardbh: let me find out what it's called again
[20:10] <richardbh> isaacj87: thanks
[20:11] <richardbh> any reason its not installed by default?
[20:11] <Koordin> kscreensaver ?
[20:11] <isaacj87> richardbh: yup, Koordin's got it
[20:11] <ChrisMir> Would be the obvious, wouldn't it? ;-)
[20:11] <isaacj87> richardbh: kscreensaver package
[20:12] <Timmy> Koordin: Any reason for the ping?
[20:12] <bobesponja> Timmy: I got that too, probably to get our attention
[20:12] <isaacj87> ChrisMir: No....;)
[20:12] <Timmy> Bah
[20:12] <Timmy> Back to ssh
[20:12] <Koordin> Timmy: i tried /ping #kubuntu i wasn't thinking that it will ping everyone
[20:12] <TimS> Ah
[20:12] <irish> Daskreech: if I am logged out from kde - my USB canera successfully appears in /dev
[20:13] <richardbh> isaacj87, Koordin, thanks
[20:13] <ChrisMir> Hmmz, Kontakt resizes to a small format sometimes, when I pop it up from the systray. Really annoying :/
[20:13] <ChrisMir> Anyone else having that?
[20:14] <isaacj87> I've found that OpenSUSE 11.1 beta 3 doesn't have corrupted icons for the systray, however 8.10 does...what gives and is there any fix?
[20:15] <DaSkreech> irish: and going back into KDE makes it disappear again ?
[20:16] <andypls1> how can i check if a file exists, using bash?
[20:16] <Koordin> hi i had this problem after upgrading to 8.10 : now when i try to boot i have this error message in a window : "Can not open theme file /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/oxygen" ; and then in the console : "Not starting K Display Manager (kdm-kde4) ; it is not the default display manager". Then in order to launch xserver i have to write 'startx' in tty1 and it works but it is a little buggy. Could someone help me ?
[20:18] <crux> Hi Koordin. Maybe try in the gt4-setting to activate another theme.
[20:18] <irish> DaSkreech: yes. It disappears after login
[20:18] <Koordin> gt4-settings ?
[20:18] <Koordin> where is that crux ?
[20:19] <aguitel> how i scheduled task in kubuntu ?
[20:19] <crux> oh, I mean qt4-settings
[20:20] <Koordin> ok
[20:20] <Koordin> crux: i've already tried this solution and my selected them for the widget style is 'Plastique'
[20:20] <Koordin> theme*
[20:21] <crux> ok. But if it doesn't work I can't help you any more
[20:21] <Koordin> maybe it is not here that i have to change the theme ?
[20:22] <crux> or look if the theme oxygen is in your kde-folder
[20:23] <aguitel> how i scheduled task in kubuntu ?
[20:30] <mek_> anyone a clue if the keyboard mapping changed in some way from 8.04 to 8.10
[20:30] <irish> DaSkreech: do you know how to change KDE rules for specific usb devices ? Maybe it is possible to disable atomatic reaction on this camera ? Kde sees it like a photocam and tries to load some drivers (it writes so in Dolphin status bar). But If kde saw it like regular usb flash drive it'll be great.
[20:30] <mek_> have a problem with freeNX and not properly mapped keys (like the cursor keys)
[20:37] <Adam24> hoe do install a bluetooth wireless keyboard under KDE?
[20:38] <scribbles> does apache come with 8.10?
[20:38] <mek_> anyone with a clue about knetwork manager and how it discovers a 3g-modem and how I can define/override the ttyUSB to use
[20:39] <mek_> ttyUSB0 is detected but the one for the data needs to be ttyUSB2,...
[20:39] <Dragonath> is there a channel for amarok?
[20:40] <JontheEchidna> #amarok
[20:40] <vlt> scribbles: apache is availbale for 8.10
[20:40] <Dragonath> thanks
[20:41] <scribbles> apt-get install apache2?
[20:42] <marcus_> Hello everyone.
[20:42] <webmaren> anybody have a fix for the taskbar going all funky when OO.o is open?
[20:43] <JontheEchidna> about the only way to not get that is to not use the nvidia driver
[20:43] <marcus_> I've had a problem...
[20:43] <webmaren> darn...
[20:43] <vlt> !ask | marcus_
[20:44] <marcus_> When my laptop is plugged in and charging, USB devices return a, "read/all error -71". Is this a kernel issue?
[20:44] <marcus_> OK, sorry. Just a few questions.
[20:44] <vlt> marcus_: Where is it "plugged in"?
[20:44] <webmaren> well, does anybody know how to get PulseAudio to work
[20:44] <marcus_> At the mains.
[20:45] <vlt> marcus_: Just power, no docking station involved, right?
[20:45] <marcus_> Yeah, just power.
[20:45] <vlt> marcus_: Hmm, then I don't know.
[20:46] <marcus_> vlt: Checking the logs, it's just the kernel complaining whenever I've plugged in a USB device while its charging...
[20:46] <marcus_> vlt: I didn't have this problem before Kubuntu 8.10, but I think it's just the kernel that's the problem. Is there a way to downgrade the kernel without the rest of the OS?
[20:47] <scribbles> I installed package "apache2-docs" where do I find these docs at?
[20:47] <marcus_> scribbles: I think, "docs" can translate as, "man pages" + some HTML versions. Try, "man -k apache2".
[20:47] <marcus_> In a terminal*
[20:48] <scribbles> why -k?
[20:48] <marcus_> scribbles: "-k" does a search of the man page names and short descriptions.
[20:49] <marcus_> scribbles: "man man" if you're not sure. :p
[20:49] <marcus_> I can't be the only person to do that just for the humour.
[20:50] <scribbles> definitely not, the ever classic "man mount"
[20:50] <aguitel> how i schedule task in kubuntu ?
[20:51] <marcus_> aguitel: Tasks as in everyday tasks, or tasks as in processes and applications?
[20:51] <aguitel> marcus_: in processes
[20:52] <aguitel> marcus_: in ubuntu i use gnome-schedule
[20:53] <marcus_> aguitel: Ah, I'm afraid I don't know then.
[20:54] <marcus_> aguitel: I'm not sure whether there is a KDE task scheduler or not, and what it's called if there is.
[20:54] <aguitel> marcus_: ok
[20:54] <marcus_> aguitel: KAlarm actually can execute commands as well, if that's what you're interested in.
[20:56] <Ryunix> im trying to install open arena 0.8 from get deb, but now i have downloaded the .deb file, Gdebi wont open it.. it loads up and then closes without any error message
[20:57] <deepi> hi, i have a problem with my network! ... i have kubuntu
[20:58] <deepi> i configure the network i enable but internet don't work
[20:58] <deepi> give me another ip... not' da real
[21:00] <marcus_> deepi: Is your computer connected to the network via Wireless?
[21:00] <deepi> no
[21:00] <deepi> cable
[21:00] <deepi> utp
[21:01] <marcus_> deepi: OK. Have you checked http://kubuntu.org for known issues with Intrepid? There was something about configuring KNetworkManager to use static I.P adresses.
[21:01] <deepi> i don't find
[21:02] <sd2> kde 4.1.2 in intrepid, systray icons are disapearing!? is there a way to fix it?
[21:02] <marcus_> deepi: give me a second...
[21:02] <deepi> tnx
[21:03] <marcus_> sd2: Disappearing and leaving a space, or disappearing and closing the space?
[21:04] <sd2> I can use them but they sometimes are transparent squares
[21:05] <sd2> so not disappearing but looking bad
[21:06] <MariachiElf> I'm having a problem with the scroll wheel on my mouse
[21:06] <MariachiElf> It seems that scrolling down goes 3 lines as expected, but scrolling up seems to page down
[21:06] <MariachiElf> Any thoughts?
[21:08] <marcus_> Sorry, I have to go for now.
[21:20] <RyuSoft> ok this is wierd, i added the spring engine repo's to the sources.list and i installed them through terminal but i cant remove them through adept or synaptic o.o
[21:21] <RyuSoft> when i search spring it doesnt show up
[21:21] <RyuSoft> anyone know what the problem could be?
[21:21] <mdr> 8.04  I need to install a new video card.  Is there a link wiki "how-to" or faq for removing and adding hardware?
[21:22] <RyuSoft> i am using intrepid ibex
[21:22] <favro> RyuSoft: try in terminal    apt-cache policy "spring_package_name"   what does that return?
[21:22] <RyuSoft> k
[21:24] <RyuSoft> favro: http://pastebin.com/d5959a384
[21:26] <marcus_> OK, so to my dismay, it isn't the kernel that's the problem...
[21:26] <RyuSoft> huh?
[21:26] <marcus_> Never mind.
[21:27] <favro> RyuSoft: so it is installed and doesn't show in adept? - do sudo apt-get remove spring then
[21:27] <marcus_> Does anyone know how to stop anacron from starting whenever I plug the charger into my laptop?
[21:28] <umer> Hey guys, I am normally a Ubuntu user, but I thought I'd give KDE 4.1 a try since I've heard that its pretty good with intrepid. But I have a question. I have the HP dv4t which has touch sensitive volume, and media control buttons. They work flawlessly in Ubuntu, but I don't know how to get them working in Kubuntu.
[21:30] <DaSkreech> hi tackat
[21:30] <DaSkreech> umer: Far as I know thy should work is kmilo installed?
[21:30] <umer> I don't  know, I'll try installing it to see what happens
[21:31] <mdr> Where can I find suggestions for how to install replace or upgrade hardware (specifically the video card) in *ubuntu Hardy?
[21:32] <trappist> mdr: I replaced my nvidia card with an ati card and it just worked, didn't have to touch a thing
[21:32] <umer> DaSkreech: Apt-get says, "Package kimilo is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source."
[21:32] <trappist> !info kimilo
[21:34] <umer> !info kmilo
[21:34] <DaSkreech> Ah right
[21:34] <DaSkreech> mdr: Sorry?
[21:35] <RyuSoft> !info spring
[21:37] <mdr> DaSkreech: Sorry for what?
[21:37] <DaSkreech> mek_: That was for umer
[21:37] <DaSkreech> !search spring
[21:38] <favro> RyuSoft: it was a ppa so it won't show as an intrepid package
[21:38] <sourcemaker> I am using gtkpod... but I receive a permission denied error... saving music to my ipod...
[21:38] <sourcemaker> how can solve this problem?
[21:38] <DaSkreech> RyuSoft: TA Spring?
[21:38] <sourcemaker> with dolphin... I can create files and directories without problems
[21:38] <pyntix> quick question: i have an old NVidia MX 420, should i use the nvidia-glx or the nvidia-glx-legacy driver?
[21:38] <MariachiElf> Should I use the xorg.conf file that vmware-tools made for me or stick with the default configuration file (which seems to be pretty much empty)
[21:39] <RyuSoft> DaSkreech yeh i reinstalled synaptic and i think it worked ... now i can see apps from repositories i already had installed
[21:39] <favro> pyntix: I think those cards are limited to nv in intrepid - see the release note
[21:39] <pyntix> oh i dont have intrepid
[21:39] <pyntix> i have 6.06
[21:40] <favro> pyntix: then the legacy driver iirc
[21:40] <pyntix> ok
[21:43] <RyuSoft> guess im gonna have to always use synaptic even when i love using a kde enviroment.. in hardy adept clashed with my router so i used synaptic and now intrepid it no longer clashes but now it doesnt even read the sources.list ... ¬¬
[21:44] <JontheEchidna> what does it say when it tries?
[21:44] <RyuSoft> nothing no error
[21:45] <RyuSoft> it just loads up the repo list too fast and i cant see the log after and when i try to search something from a repository i added it wont show up
[21:46] <JontheEchidna> oh
[21:46] <favro> tried the reload button?
[21:46] <JontheEchidna> currently adept doesn't automatically update the xapian index. It was accidentally disabled since it takes forever
[21:47] <JontheEchidna> you can manually build it with sudo update-apt-xapian-index
[21:47] <JontheEchidna> we're trying to enable it smartly so that it only updates the index when it needs to (adding a new repo for example)
[21:47] <RyuSoft> i installed intrepid yesterday night and i configured it this morning and in the process i got an error for ttf-dejavu and everything i installed after that was plagues with the ttf-dejavu error which crashed adept and even a dpkg --configure -a did nothing only a "defoma w/e .. " which i was hinted afterwards fixed that ttf-dejavu error
[21:48] <RyuSoft> plagued*
[21:49] <RyuSoft> but i think all the apps i installed while i was getting the ttf-dejavu error they corrupted? dunno but a reinstallation of synaptic fixed the repo thing
[21:50] <ahmedb> Hey guys, I have this problem: "Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries" any clue?
[21:51] <RyuSoft> JontheEchidna: http://pastebin.com/d71d7087e
[21:52] <RyuSoft> help me out dude u is a guru
[21:52] <JontheEchidna> Ryunix: gotta run it with sudo
[21:53] <JontheEchidna> ahmedb: in intrepid?
[21:53] <Ryunix> oh lol k
[21:53] <ahmedb> JontheEchidna: yes .. this happened after the upgrade from hardy
[21:53] <JontheEchidna> ahmedb: got kde-nightly installed?
[21:53] <ahmedb> JontheEchidna: you mean kde-nightly the package?
[21:53] <ahmedb> no
[21:54] <JontheEchidna> the kde-nightly packages, yes
[21:54] <JontheEchidna> hmm
[21:54] <ahmedb> but I have a separate qt installation on /opt
[21:54] <JontheEchidna> that is probably the problem
[21:54] <ahmedb> I think that including the backports or the kde-members repo in the sources list may caused the problem
[21:55] <JontheEchidna> the only way I know to fix it is to remove the other Qt installation
[21:55] <Ryunix> JontheEchidna: thnx dude the command worked
[21:55] <ahmedb> so I removed them from sources .. ran apt-get clean .. then reinstalled libqt packages
[21:55] <ahmedb> still nothing
[21:55] <ahmedb> JontheEchidna: so I won't be able to install a bleeding edge kde-svn?
[21:56] <ahmedb> but this separate qt did not cause problems on hardy!!
[21:56] <JontheEchidna> I guess not. I wish I knew how to resolve it too :(
[21:56] <Ryunix> JontheEchidna for some reason it fixed the .deb file problem i was having with gdebi
[21:57] <Ryunix> well i mean i no longer have that problem i dont know if it was the command which fixed it
[21:57] <ahmedb> JontheEchidna: how do I uninstall that qt?
[21:57] <JontheEchidna> ahmedb: I'm assuming you installed it by hand?
[21:57] <ahmedb> yes
[21:58] <JontheEchidna> go to the source directory and sudo make uninstall
[21:58] <ahmedb> ok then thank you very much .. I will try to uninstall it and I will see if the problem vanishes
[21:58] <JontheEchidna> it could be that the issue was just masked in hardy since we used /usr/lib/kde4 for our packages
[21:59] <Logi> why is it that I can find sun-java6-jdk in aptitude but not adept?
[22:01] <ahmedb> JontheEchidna: and how did that change in intrepid jon?
[22:01] <ahmedb> no more /usr/lib/kde4?
[22:01] <JontheEchidna> it installs to where programs are usually installed, /usr
[22:02] <JontheEchidna> paths had to be explicitly set to look in /usr/lib/kde4 for kde4 programs
[22:04] <ahmedb> oh .. now it goes with other programs .. I see .. and how is kde3 in intrepid is it still there?
[22:04] <JontheEchidna> not as a desktop
[22:04] <JontheEchidna> apps that don't have kde4 versions like digikam or amarok are still there
[22:04] <ahmedb> so only the libs I assume?
[22:04] <JontheEchidna> libs and the apps that don't have kde4 stable versions
[22:04] <thomas_> can someone help me get my graphics driver installed?
[22:04] <Logi> no idea why aptitude and adept would show different packages? Does anyonw see the sun-java6-jdk package in adept?
[22:05] <ahmedb> JontheEchidna: thank you very much .. the uninstall qt thing worked (at least for now .. since the new vlc opened successfully) .. now to go face other issues with the intrepid upgrade :)
[22:06] <JontheEchidna> :)
[22:06] <ahmedb> JontheEchidna: I will try to contact the kde guys to update their manual for building latest qt and kde .. since with this last intrepid release, their stuff will be outdated and may cause a lot of troubles for users
[22:07] <JontheEchidna> the issue could be on our end for all we know, I wouldn't tell them to go fix it just yet :P
[22:07] <JontheEchidna> technically things in /opt can't interfere with other things
[22:08] <ahmedb> well .. perhaps you are right ;) .. I hope you can know what caused the problem .. I assume you currently don't have a separate kde svn