 Making decent coffee is an art
[08:50] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[08:51] <Kilos> Maaz_, thanks man
[08:51] <Maaz_> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)
[08:53] <kbmonkey> ooh, that sounds goood!
[08:53] <kbmonkey> Maaz_, coffee please
[08:53] <Maaz_> kbmonkey: There isn't a pot on
[08:53] <kbmonkey> what?! Kilos het jy al die koffie nou gedrink?!
[08:53] <Kilos> skuus man
[08:53] <Kilos> Maaz_, coffe on
[08:54] <Maaz_> Kilos: Excuse me?
[08:54] <Kilos> huh
[08:54] <Kilos> Maaz_, coffee on
[08:54]  * Maaz_ washes some mugs
[08:54] <Kilos> gryp gou kb
[08:54] <Kilos> grrr
[08:54] <Kilos> kbmonkey, ^^
[08:55] <kbmonkey> so gaaf, dankie! ^^
[08:56] <kbmonkey> Maaz_, coffee please
[08:56] <Maaz_> kbmonkey: Yessir
[08:58] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for Kilos and kbmonkey!
[08:58] <Kilos> Maaz_, ty
[08:58] <Maaz_> Enjoy Kilos
[08:59] <kbmonkey> Maaz_, ty
[08:59] <Maaz_> Enjoy kbmonkey
[08:59]  * kbmonkey sluuuurps
[08:59] <Kilos> lol
[08:59] <Kilos> Maaz_, rusks please
[08:59] <Maaz_> Sorry Kilos I only have Romany Creams today
[09:00] <Kilos> Maaz_, romany creams please
[09:00] <kbmonkey> ek het Ubuntu 11.04 op my 2de partition ge-install, nog nie kans gekry om te gebruik nie
[09:00] <Maaz_> Only 2 Kilos Otherwise no one else gets any
[09:00] <kbmonkey> that's okay Maaz_, I have some in my cupboard!
[09:02] <Kilos> ek hey 11.04 op n spaar 6g hardeskyf gesit maar  dis te veel data om te update en baie werk om skywe te reel om te gaan speel
[09:04] <Kilos> bang om te upgrade hier want maverick werk mooi hier
[09:09] <kbmonkey> ja nee ek clone maar altyd die disk in geval iets vergeerk gaan ;)
[09:09] <Kilos> lol
[09:21] <Kilos> lo sdehaan
[09:33] <superfly> More oom kilos
[09:34] <Kilos> Môre superfly
[09:34] <Kilos> hehe
[09:34] <kbmonkey> hello superfly
[09:35]  * superfly is on his h
[09:35] <superfly> *phone
[09:35] <superfly> the pc is giving issues
[09:35] <Kilos> ah
[09:36] <Kilos> wonder why pcs do that
[09:36] <superfly> I think the motherboard is faulty, it's brand new
[09:36] <Kilos> go great then crash for no reason
[09:36] <Kilos> hope its covered then still superfly
[09:36] <Kilos> lo Tonberry
[09:37] <Tonberry> hello
[09:37] <superfly> Kilos: no crash, it just tells me there's no network card
[09:37] <Kilos> lol back to the usb modem
[09:39] <Kilos> superfly, did you try plug the card into another slot and reboot and see?
[09:40] <superfly> No, no point, the internet works fine (my phone uses the wireless network)
[09:40] <Kilos> some of the older mbs used to forget things
[09:40] <superfly> Kilos: no, it's an onboard network card
[09:40] <Kilos> ah
[09:40] <Kilos> eina
[09:40] <Kilos> then something in bios is forgetting where it is
[09:41] <superfly> That's why I say it's a faulty mb
[09:41] <Kilos> eish
[09:41] <kbmonkey> so did it work for a bit superfly ?
[09:41] <Kilos> pull the battery and start again
[09:41] <kbmonkey> or not at all ever
[09:42] <Kilos> power cord too
[09:42] <Kilos> oh ya has it worked before
[09:42] <superfly> kbmonkey: up until this morning, yes, so for about a month
[09:43] <kbmonkey> any kernel updates come through just before it broke?
[09:43] <superfly> nope, I don't think so.
[09:44] <superfly> Besides, this is the second thing to go wrong
[09:44] <Kilos> eish that sucks
[09:45] <superfly> The first was my graphics card, which I took out, and now I'm using the onboard one
[09:45] <superfly> Which doesn't work properly anyways
[09:45] <Kilos> pull the battery and power cord and reset the bios in ten mins superfly
[09:46] <superfly> All the symptoms so far point to a faulty motherboard
[09:46] <Kilos> the more advanced hardware is getting the more probs seem to brew out
[09:48] <kbmonkey> awe that sux superfly :( hw issues are the worst
[09:49] <kbmonkey> does the card pick up in lshw?
[09:49] <kbmonkey> ifconfig?
[09:49] <superfly> Nope
[09:54] <kbmonkey> :(
[09:55] <Kilos> there no modprobe commands for onboard stuff?
[09:59] <Kilos> superfly, have you only got one OS on the drive
[09:59] <Kilos> nothing alongside?
[10:00] <Kilos> maybe even see if a live cd can connect
[10:02] <kbmonkey> thinking the same thing, knoppix always handy to have around for that
[10:02] <kbmonkey> preferably another distro or another kernel to rule that out
[10:03] <Kilos> yeah something that can bypass the hdd
[10:05] <Kilos> its fine when these things happen and you have time on your hands but the fly has even had to make 365 become 730
[10:05] <Kilos> kbmonkey, have you seen code365
[10:05] <kbmonkey> faulty hw does happen, more often than people think.
[10:06] <kbmonkey> I have Kilos! thanks for reminding me :)
[10:06] <Kilos> i lost the link when i had to reinstall
[10:06] <Kilos> ah
[10:06] <kbmonkey> I wanted to do that, I have some projects now that I can too!
[10:06] <Kilos> i aint been there for a long time now
[10:06] <kbmonkey> learning google app engine framework
[10:06] <Kilos> ah
[10:07] <kbmonkey> I think we need to have Maaz_ get these next time: http://postimage.org/image/1txt18ykk/
[10:09] <Kilos> hehe my sis makes them for us
[10:09] <kbmonkey> yum!
[11:02] <Kilos> dont keep us inna dark superfly are you winningt?
[12:09] <queery> maaz, announce ubuntu hour WC venue change to Trumpettree in Stellenbosch (http://maps.google.co.za/maps/place?ie=UTF8&q=trumpet+tree+stellenbosch&fb=1&gl=za&hq=trumpet+tree&hnear=0x1dcdb2f75188e2a5:0x7009aa00dee36be2,Stellenbosch&cid=13826857899630492312&z=14)
[12:09] <Maaz_> Announcement from queery! ubuntu hour WC venue change to Trumpettree in Stellenbosch (http://maps.google.co.za/maps/place?ie=UTF8&q=trumpet+tree+stellenbosch&fb=1&gl=za&hq=trumpet+tree&hnear=0x1dcdb2f75188e2a5:0x7009aa00dee36be2,Stellenbosch&cid=13826857899630492312&z=14)
[15:49] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[15:49]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[15:50] <queery> Maaz, coffee please
[15:50] <Maaz> queery: Okay
[15:50] <Kilos> hi queery
[15:50] <queery> hi oom
[15:50] <Kilos> very quiet here hey?
[15:51] <queery> quite
[15:53] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and queery!
[15:53] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[15:53] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[15:54] <queery> Maaz, ty
[15:54] <Maaz> Enjoy queery
[16:24]  * Kilos wonders if superfly is winning with his pc
[17:11] <Kilos> lo nlsthzn-work ty for the help
[17:11] <Kilos> hope vince came right
[17:11] <nlsthzn-work> Kilos: help?
[17:12] <nlsthzn-work> hi btw :)
[17:12] <Kilos> inna mail
[17:12] <Kilos> the changing servers asdvice
[17:12] <nlsthzn-work> Kilos: oh... ok...
[17:12] <nlsthzn-work> yup, annoying when one can't update :)
[17:13] <Kilos> lol and more anoying when no one helps you
[17:14] <Kilos> i waited for someone else to help then got sorry for the guy
[17:14] <Kilos> because i am never sure i am giving the right info
[17:19] <nlsthzn-work> Kilos: that is my mine gripe... giving the wrong advice is worst than giving no advice IMO...
[17:22] <Kilos> yeah
[20:56] <Squirm_> I thought I exited this...


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[04:31] <jsg> good morning
[08:49] <thegreedyturtle> ?? test
[08:50] <jsg> hello
[08:51] <Burgundavia> salut
[08:59] <jsg> brb
[11:18] <jsgotangco> sjohnson jsgotangco: : ok.. cause i'm thinking at least an official handbook would be of IMMENSE help, and this Wiki stuff is pretty ramshackle.. for example, a user should know RIGHT AWAY what to do about setting a root password
[11:36] <jsgotangco> im going home bye people
[07:15] <abelli> ciao a tutti
[07:16] <abelli> Kinnison: hola
[07:18] <Kinnison> ciao abelli, come va?


[05:28] <antmanuv> hello
[05:28] <antmanuv> anyone ?
[09:33] <bigbopper> Hi all... total newbie to Linux and am having LOADS of trouble,everbody says Linux is easy!!! Mmmmm! would take issue with that statment LOL, how the hell do I get a Java Plug -in to work in firefox?? you have to do a Manual Install, Heads up my Arse trying to get it to work!!!!  lol help please.
[09:34] <bigbopper> Am I in this room???
[09:35] <tmarble> please start with step 5. here:  https://jdk-distros.dev.java.net/ubuntu.html
[09:36] <tmarble> OR -- simply search for Sun Java in Synaptic (be sure to select the package sun-java5-plugin)
[09:37] <bigbopper> Hey thanx for the reply , that would be easy in windows but here!!!! am struggling lol will let you know  brb
[09:51] <bigbopper> The Sun Java 5.0 Browser plug-ins there but I cant tick it?? Ive managed to D/L Sun Java 5.0 and install it,will this do and do I have to restart??
[10:01] <tmarble> please exit and restart Firefox... then enter this for the URL about:plugins
[10:01] <bigbopper> Mmmmm Terminal says theres No Java 5 plug in there??
[10:35] <bigbopper> Sorry folks but the sun-java5-plugin is not there in Add/Remove or Synaptic??
[10:35] <tmarble> you probably have to insure that you have added the multiverse (commercial) component
[10:35] <bigbopper> Am DAFT I know but I only installed Ubuntu a few hour ago lol
[10:36] <bigbopper> multiverse (commercial) component????????????
[10:37] <tmarble>   http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[10:38] <bigbopper> when I was Pre-install I read that the Learning Curve was Steep but worth it!!!!!  Bloody Hell !! my heads going round and now More reams of reading! lol think Im going to give up!
[10:41] <tmarble> gosh, a little more patience gets you very close to software freedom... shame to quit now!
[10:42] <bigbopper>  multiverse (commercial) havent a clue where you find this never mind what it is Or how to set it!!
[10:43] <tmarble> OK.. starting from Gnome -- pick the System menu, then Administration then Synaptic Package Manager
[10:44] <tmarble> Then (in Synaptic) choose the menu Settings | Repositories...
[10:44] <tmarble> you can check all of: universe, main, multiverse, restricted
[10:45] <tmarble> You will then need to click the Reload button
[10:46] <tmarble> Type "java5-plugin" in the Search Box
[10:46] <tmarble> Then check the package sun-java5-plugin for installation
[10:46] <tmarble> Then click apply... you will get the plugin installed
[10:46] <tmarble> Then exit/restart Firefox (once that installation is complete)
[10:46] <tmarble> HTH
[10:49] <bigbopper> Then check the package sun-java5-plugin for installation. Ok got to here but theres no java5 package showing in synaptic??
[10:49] <tmarble> hmmm  did you add multiverse?
[10:51] <bigbopper> hank on they where all ticked! I`ll check brb
[10:55] <bigbopper> Mmmmm there all ticked and it asks me to reload then says repositers changed but still No java5
[10:56] <tmarble> did you reload?
[10:58] <bigbopper> yes done it 3 times after restarting synaptic and still no java5-plugin listed??
[10:59] <bigbopper> Ive done this very thing so many times in windows on forums with newbies know what its like
[11:00] <bigbopper> sometimes it just will not work!! when it should. thanx for all you help but I give up bye
[11:00] <tmarble> sorry
[11:01] <bigbopper> np


[00:59] <seadoo> sup
[02:45] <Hob20> What can be the reason of this? imgur.com/a/9ojYPny . It disappeared after rebooting.
[02:45] <Hob20> https://imgur.com/a/9ojYPny
[02:48] <Bashing-om> Hob20: I would suppose a broke graphic's driver. What does the log file relate ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' ?
[02:50] <Hob20> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ScM7Czccjq/
[02:53] <Bashing-om> Hob20: Humm ..manager does not see an issue, What shows ' sudo lshw -C display '?
[02:53] <Hob20> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ycrmwBTQZn/
[02:56] <Bashing-om> Hob20: Still looks good - driver conflicts ? : dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia .
[02:57] <Hob20> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/G5jStGNzvs/
[03:00] <Bashing-om> Hob20: Clean there too :D All looks good for the graphic's driver. Only thought that I had :(
[03:00] <Hob20> Thank you :)  Does that mean there is nothing to worry about?
[03:01] <Bashing-om> Hob20: Well, if the display is distorted then there is an issue somewhere .
[03:02] <Hob20> Perhaps, it is the videocard's issue, then...
[03:04] <Bashing-om> Hob20: Maybe - wait here and see what others can advise to test the hardware ?
[03:08] <xubuntu18w> Did you try on the Desktop going to settings and Display and verify it?
[03:10] <Hob20> No, how shall I do that?
[03:11] <xubuntu18w> Bring up main menu click on top left, then settings, them display.
[03:12] <Hob20> I've opened it, what's next?
[03:13] <xubuntu18w> Do the settings seem what's expected?
[03:14] <Hob20> No, https://imgur.com/a/xEm6E92
[03:17] <xubuntu18w> What is actually the matter? Is this a VM or real machine?
[03:17] <Hob20> It is real machine.
[03:17] <xubuntu18w> What is actually the issue?
[03:19] <Hob20> Some days ago the screen suddenly became distorted. https://imgur.com/a/9ojYPny I'm trying to figure out what could be the reason of that issue.
[03:19] <Hob20> After rebooting the PC the problem didn't appear
[03:19] <knopper-hr> BIOS update?
[03:20] <xubuntu18w> So it's distorted? What's the refresh rate? Is it 60HZ? Is your display 60HZ?
[03:20] <knopper-hr> had the same issue
[03:20] <Hob20> Yes, it is exactly 60 Hz
[03:20] <knopper-hr> it is noǌ
[03:21] <Hob20> At this moment it isn't distorted
[03:22] <knopper-hr> no it is not
[03:22] <xubuntu18w> Is the entire display filled?
[03:22] <Hob20> Yes
[03:22] <knopper-hr> thanks hob
[03:23] <xubuntu18w> See if you can change the refresh to something like 57HZ But remember what it is.
[03:23] <Hob20> I cannot change it, the only function available is 60 Hz
[03:24] <xubuntu18w> You say it's clear now?
[03:24] <Hob20> Yes
[03:25] <xubuntu18w> Can't trouble shoot a non-problem. Try a shutdown reboot and see how it looks.
[03:25] <xubuntu18w> I'll stay a little while...
[03:26] <Hob20> It is the same as it was. I've rebooted it many times
[03:27] <knopper-hr> Hoǌ can I stop sharing mi destop?
[03:27] <xubuntu18w> Well if it looks OK now wait for it to come back.
[03:27] <Hob20> okay, thank you
[03:33] <succour> I'm trying to transfer files from my PC to my phone. But the phone does not appear in Thunar. Previously, in Xubuntu 19.04 it worked fine.
[03:39] <knopper-hr> intersting
[03:40] <succour> What am I to do to make it work?
[03:42] <xubuntu18w> Good night
[03:43] <knopper-hr> Night
[07:46] <succour> I cannot transfer files to my phone -- the phone doesn't appear in Thunar, what shall I do?
[07:47] <diogenes_> succour, android?
[07:48] <succour> Yes
[07:48] <succour> in Xubuntu 19.04 I could do it successfully, but now I can't
[07:52] <diogenes_> succour, when you connect the phone to pc, do you get the notification on the phone about how you want to connecr, data transfer or something?
[07:53] <succour> Yes, I get the notification and I choose "Transfer files" instead of "Charge the device"
[10:34] <Robo2020> Hello. (:
[10:38] <Robo2020> I have screen tearing. I know about compton, and I know how to install it, but is it really the best option currently?
[10:39] <diogenes_> Robo2020, xubuntu version and GPU?
[10:39] <Robo2020> 18.04, integrated intel gpu (on CPU)
[10:39] <Robo2020> let me check what cpu it is
[10:41] <Robo2020>  Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-6006U CPU @ 2.00GHz
[10:42] <Robo2020> GPU is Intel HD 520
[10:42] <diogenes_> Robo2020, did you enable compositing and synchronize drawing...?
[10:43] <Robo2020> yeah
[10:43] <Robo2020> I did switch to compton on my last install, and it seemed to work fine.
[10:45] <diogenes_> Robo2020, run: apt search xserver-xorg-video-intel
[10:45] <diogenes_> see if it's installed.
[10:47] <Robo2020> Oh, I mean. I had to reinstall my xubuntu due to another issue, that's why compton isn't installed right now.
[10:47] <Robo2020> It looks like there are some drivers.
[10:47] <Robo2020> Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
[10:48] <diogenes_> Robo2020, see if xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed.
[10:48] <diogenes_> it should say [installed,automatic]
[10:51] <Robo2020> One of the entries says that, can't copy it for some reason. But I see xserver-xorg-video-intel on the list, just without the [installed, automatic] part.
[10:51] <Robo2020> xserver-xorg-video-intel-hwe-18.04/bionic-updates,now 2:2.99.917+git20171229-1ubuntu1~18.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
[10:52] <diogenes_> ok, now run: man intel
[10:52] <diogenes_> just tell me if you get a page.
[10:53] <Robo2020> Yeah.
[10:53] <Robo2020> There's a page.
[10:56] <Robo2020> Could try to enable TearFree, I guess?
[10:59] <diogenes_> Robo2020, run: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[11:00] <diogenes_> what is the output?
[11:01] <Robo2020> no such file/directory
[11:02] <Robo2020> I could follow this guide: https://askubuntu.com/questions/418398/tear-free-disabled-in-intel-graphics-tearing-in-xubuntu
[11:02] <diogenes_> Robo2020, sudo mkdir sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[11:02] <diogenes_> wait
[11:03] <diogenes_> sudo mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[11:03] <diogenes_> tell me when done.
[11:03] <Robo2020> I did: sudo mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[11:04] <diogenes_> now: sudo nano  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
[11:05] <diogenes_> i will pastebin what you need to write in there.
[11:05] <Robo2020> okay ready
[11:06] <diogenes_> Robo2020, http://dpaste.com/3VEPE12
[11:07] <diogenes_> after writing that file, hit ctrl+o, hit enter, hit ctrl+x
[11:07] <diogenes_> tell me when done.
[11:09] <Robo2020> Yeah.
[11:10] <Robo2020> I done did it. Restart now?
[11:10] <diogenes_> ok now double check, run: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:10] <diogenes_> share the link here.
[11:12] <Robo2020> https://termbin.com/66jy
[11:12] <diogenes_> looks good, reboot.
[11:19] <Robo2020> Thank you, I think it works now!
[11:19] <diogenes_> you're welcome.
[20:52] <xubuntu88i> hey ^
[20:52] <xubuntu88i> ^^*
[22:03] <succour> Where can I find the logs of this IRC channel?
[22:05] <succour> ah, I'm sorry, I found it...
[22:05] <succour> didn't read well enough