[14:27] <ragnarock> I am using a nvidia geforce 720M graphics for my Asus Xseries notebook,I have installed ubuntu and I observe unusual freezing of screen.Also my keypad does not work in ubuntu. How can I fix this?
[14:28] <ikonia> got to be a wubi install for that error
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> ragnarock: if you run:   sudo lshw -C display      do you see an Intel GPU too?
[14:28] <xombi> oops. That's what I meant, ActionParsnip. When attempting  a do-release-upgrade.
[14:28] <ikonia> maybe the pendrive maker
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> xombi: ma\ssive massive difference
[14:28] <ragnarock> correction:touchpad not keypad
[14:28] <xombi> \s... I see what you did there.
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> xombi: quantal is EOL. I'm guessing you are on Precise now?
[14:29] <xombi> It looks identical to the problem described here: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/10/21/%23ubuntu-installer.txt
[14:29] <xombi> That is correct; I'm running Precise and trying to upgrade to the next LTS release.
[14:30] <xombi> a leap from version 12 to 14 seems to be causing a bit of a problem... the update manager sees a minor update but it's apparently no longer being supported.
[14:30] <ikonia> it's not going to work
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> xombi: if you grab the Trusty ISO and boot to it you can use it to upgrade]
[14:30] <ikonia> 12.04 -> 14.04 is not available until 14.05.1
[14:30] <ikonia> 14.04.1 sorry
[14:30] <xombi> I thought not, ikonia, but I thought I could use -d (or -p?) to override that.
[14:31] <daftykins> ^no.
[14:31] <untaken> philinux: thanks for that, remove it and it seems to have done the job :)
[14:31] <untaken> philinux++
[14:31] <philinux> untaken;~ you mean from that post 3?
[14:32] <untaken> yea, the one where they say the ubuntu-desktop is just a meta
[14:32] <daftykins> xombi: really, i would backup and never use WUBI again
[14:32] <TBotNik> All: Using Kubuntu 12.04 LTS and FireFox, but now Google has an embedded script, forcing me through their servers, instead of rendering a page directly, so getting 404, 403 and other errors when entering normal URLs.  How do I turn this #$%#@ thing off, so I browse normally?
[14:32] <leni1> help, I want to remove a 'Windows Vista' entry from the GRUB boot menu.
[14:32] <ragnarock> well it says: description: VGA compatible controller    product: Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller       vendor: Intel Corporation       physical id: 2 show clock can nvidea configuration
[14:32] <xombi> daftykins: this is  a virtual machine :P
[14:32] <untaken> basically just apt-get removed it and logged out. Also Unity still works if I need to check that out.
[14:33] <daftykins> xombi: really 0o ok well anyway until 14.04.1 is out, an LTS -> LTS upgrade isn't wise, you can't use -d because that means upgrade to the development release - which is now 14.10
[14:33] <philinux> untaken;~ has it removed the gnome-control-center as well though
[14:33] <ikonia> xombi: why are you trying to override something that is told "do not do until 14.04.1"
  well it says: description: VGA compatible controller    product: Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller       vendor: Intel Corporation       physical id: 2 and shows clock and nvidea configurations
[14:34] <untaken> philinux: nah, that loads up still :)
[14:35] <xombi> It seemed like a good idea at the time, ikonia ;P Versus, you know, attempting to blow away the old installation via a CD.
[14:35] <philinux> untaken;~ if you come to do a version upgrade you'll need to put the -desktop package back
[14:35] <asdofindia> is it placebo or does ubuntu in fact run like a lot faster when i switch to lxde?
[14:35] <ikonia> xombi: seems like a really bad idea
[14:36] <daftykins> asdofindia: it's fact, because unity uses 3D and all manner of resources whereas LXDE is lighter.
[14:36] <xombi> how so, ikonia?  :P never liked eye-candy. But never switched desktop environments.
[14:37] <daftykins> asdofindia: xfce is a nice third choice
[14:37] <xombi> But anyway, isn't the missing GPG signature a sign of a bug? >.>
[14:37] <Guest27479> hello
[14:37] <xombi> Or is it just "expected behavior" because I'm trying to do something "irrational"?
[14:37] <ikonia> xombi: no, it's a sign you are doing something that's wrong
[14:37] <ikonia> xombi: hence why "not supported"
[14:38] <asdofindia> daftykins, but, just noticed. the menu bar is missing. no file, edit, etc :(
[14:38] <xombi> ikonia:  So let me get this straight... downloading an LTE release "locks you in" to not upgrading?
[14:38] <untaken> philinux: so you advise install ibus back maybe before a dist upgrade?
[14:38] <daftykins> asdofindia: you mean inside a program?
[14:38] <ikonia> xombi: no, downloading an LTE doesn't lock you in at all
[14:38] <xombi> ikonia:
[14:38] <asdofindia> daftykins, yeah. inside. on firefox i can bring things up with ALt+f
[14:38] <daftykins> "LTE" is mobile phone tech.
[14:38] <ikonia> xombi: yes ?
[14:38] <super> how do I determined my hostX on the /sys/class/scsi_host/hostX/scan?
[14:38] <ikonia> daftykins: he means LTS, I let it slide
[14:39] <daftykins> i know :P
[14:39] <xombi> so the only options right now are to upgrade to an unsupported release, or to download a whole new image? :(
[14:39] <super> Long Term Services?
[14:39] <daftykins> Support.
[14:39] <ikonia> xombi: what version ar eyou currently running to be clear
[14:39] <super> Services=Supports?
[14:40] <xombi> ikonia: I'm running Xubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[14:40] <super> 3.13.0-32-generic
[14:40] <super> Linux
[14:40] <ikonia> xombi: right, so your CURRENT only option is to wait for 14.04.1 as that is the only other "in support" ubuntu release at hte moment
[14:40] <super> uname: invalid option -- 'A'
[14:40] <super> Try 'uname --help' for more information.
[14:40] <super> uname: invalid option -- 'R'
[14:40] <super> Try 'uname --help' for more information.
[14:40] <ikonia> xombi: if there was a non-lts release in support, you could upgrade to that, but there is currently not
[14:40] <super> uname: invalid option -- 'O'
[14:40] <super> Try 'uname --help' for more information.
[14:40] <TBotNik> All: Repeating: Using Kubuntu 12.04 LTS and FireFox, but now Google has an embedded script, forcing me through their servers, instead of rendering a page directly, so getting 404, 403 and other errors when entering normal URLs.  How do I turn this #$%#@ thing off, so I browse normally?
[14:40] <daftykins> !paste | super
[14:40] <ikonia> super: please stop
[14:41] <daftykins> TBotNik: yeah until you describe what you mean by this mythical google script, nobody can assist you.
[14:41] <xombi> ikonia: what about the magical -d and -p? >.>
[14:41] <ikonia> xombi: what about them ?
[14:41] <daftykins> xombi: i already answered that.
[14:42] <ajnr> how to solve unicode issues in eclipse in ubuntu
[14:42] <xombi> Aren't those supposed to work regardless? a la https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/ubuntu-12-04-to-14-04-upgrade
[14:42] <ikonia> xombi: "supposed to work" is not something that ubuntu recommends
[14:42] <daftykins> xombi: you've already been told the answer to this three times now.
[14:42] <ikonia> xombi: supported, stable, tried and tested IS what ubuntu recommends
[14:43] <ikonia> xombi: so again, trying to get around that = on your own head
[14:43] <daftykins> xombi: hang on, when you said VM - is it actually a digitalocean VPS, or what?
[14:43] <xombi> Ubuntu recommends I use Ubuntu Cloud. :P
[14:43] <ikonia> xombi: no it doesn't
[14:43] <xombi> This is a local machine running on VirtualBox.
[14:44] <daftykins> xombi: ok, so are you familiar with vbox's snapshot feature?
[14:44] <xombi> I am, daftykins.
[14:44] <daftykins> xombi: so make one, then go nuts!
[14:45] <xombi> ......
[14:45] <daftykins> xombi: but also, as it's a VM... just clean install 14.04 to another then move your data
[14:46] <xombi> Thank goodness it's a VM too. :P
[14:46] <xombi> I really hope "Ubuntu Recommends" isn't the dead-end answer. :P
[14:46] <daftykins> xombi: Tux forbid we should do things the way they're meant to work!
[14:47] <daftykins> now i'll hear no more about it
[14:47] <ikonia> xombi: think about what you are saying
[14:47] <xombi> ikonia: I think what you meant to say was "daftykins, think about what you're saying" :P
[14:47] <ikonia> xombi: ubuntu provides a recommended safe upgtrade method for their LONG TERM and STABLE platform, you're complaining because they are giving you this recommendation / advice
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> TBotNik: that isnt normal for Ubuntu
[14:48] <ikonia> xombi: no, I'm not
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> TBotNik: have you set a proxy?
[14:48] <ikonia> xombi: you're the one saying "ubuntu recommends" is the dead end answer
[14:48] <xombi> ikonia: You're the one saying "ubuntu recommends" as a dead-end answer :P
[14:48] <ikonia> xombi: please re-read what I said then
[14:49] <xombi> "'supposed to work' is not something that ubuntu recommends" .... hmm
[14:49] <ikonia> xombi: correct
[14:49] <xombi> So I am attempting to do something that is meant to not work?
[14:49] <ikonia> xombi: someone writing blog posts about what works for him to get around the designed upgrade program is not something ubuntu recommends
[14:49] <xombi> Am or was?
[14:50] <xombi> Looks like we hit the dead-end "Ubuntu Recommends" again. :P
[14:50] <xombi> Recommendations(tm) aside, isn't it supposed to work?
[14:50] <ikonia> xombi: no, you want to work outside the design of the stable platform
[14:51] <xombi> ikonia: So 404 errors and not finding files is normal?
[14:51] <ikonia> xombi: it is on an supported release
[14:51] <ikonia> because the rpeos are not htere
[14:51] <ikonia> on an "unsupported" release
[14:51] <ikonia> sorry
[14:51] <xombi> So once that point upgrade hits there'll be a GPG and stuff? :P Okay.
[14:51] <xombi> That's what I wanted to figure out.
[14:52] <ikonia> xombi: as I said at the start there will be an upgrade path once 14.04.1 is released
[14:52] <iptable> ActionParsnip, please explain why a port has to be forwarded on routers which don't support upnp
[14:52] <xombi> I understood that, ikonia. :P I was just trying to figure out whether the workarounds were broken on purpose or there was an actual repo error.
[14:52] <ikonia> xombi: there is neither
[14:53] <ikonia> xombi: there is no repo error, and you're not doing a work around
[14:53] <ikonia> xombi: you are doing something that is silly
[14:53] <iptable> My router doesn't support upnp and no port forwarding was needed. for downloads, transmission happily connects out without the need to have incoming ports forwarded
[14:53] <ikonia> moving from 12.04 -> 12.10
[14:53] <ikonia> which is a dead repo
[14:53] <xombi> I was trying to move from 12.04 to 14.04
[14:53] <xombi> edgy edgy.
[14:53] <ikonia> xombi: right, but you where going to 12.10
[14:54] <ikonia> hence the "quantal" error you said
[14:54] <xombi> Well, that was the only "update" Xubuntu was offering. :P
[14:54] <xombi> I didn't follow through, but it popped up and then warned me against it.
[14:54] <ikonia> xombi: it hsouldn't be offering anything
[14:54] <xombi> It recommended that it was not recommended.
[14:54] <ikonia> unless you have told it to not upgrade to LTS releases and tried to trick it
[14:54] <xombi> The only setting I changed to get it to show up was "show releases"... or something like that.
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> iptable: because if the router cannot automatically open the port and allow the traffic, Transmission will begin requesting data but it will not be allowed in as the router will block the traffic in
[14:54] <ikonia> so you tried to get around it
[14:54] <xombi> in The Settings Manager
[14:55] <meganerd> xombi: then you did something wrong and picked the wrong release
[14:55] <ikonia> so again - I go back to "trying to et around the design" = failure
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> iptable: that is why transmission has a 'port' setting, so you can set that and then replicate the setting on tne router.
[14:55] <meganerd> xombi: 12.04 -> 14.4 works fine
[14:55] <meganerd> xombi: 12.04 -> 14.04 works fine
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> iptable: decent routers will automatically setup the ports etc and allow the traffic as the initial request is from inside
[14:55] <xombi> how so, meganerd? Via a CD?  :O
[14:56] <ikonia> ones which are away from the designed upgrade path
[14:57] <xombi> ikonia: stop.
[14:57] <ikonia> so again - either a.) follow the designed upgrade path which 14.04.1 will be released soon b.) on your own head be it
[14:57] <iptable> ActionParsnip, that is not true. Transmission makes a TCP connection out and gets data as responses
[14:57] <xombi> ikonia: great. your input is no longer desired.
[14:57] <meganerd> daftykins: perhaps, the installs all started with 12.04 pretty much right after the original release
[14:57] <iptable> ActionParsnip, you do not need to open any ports to make outbound connections to view websites, access ftp nor downloads torrents
[14:58] <daftykins> meganerd: so if they were kept up to date, they'd have been .4 yeah. but please don't advise upgrading unofficially.
[14:58] <xombi> meganerd: did you have to modify any of the source lists before attempting the upgrade? I'm trying to figure out what I missed. :P
[14:58] <iptable> ActionParsnip, transmission has a port setting for sharing your torrents to others, which is not what the user was trying to do.
[14:58] <meganerd> iptable: actually for ftp you do, or use ftp in passive mode, or have conntrack modules for ftp on the router
[14:58] <iptable> ActionParsnip, and no, my router definitely doesn't have upnp, it's a linux router I have connected and installed myself and perform pppoe on it
[14:58] <meganerd> xombi: I did not do anything unusual
[14:59] <iptable> meganerd, well yes, passive ftp you don't need to - i.e. the more sane method of using ftp
[14:59] <Talez> exit
[14:59] <meganerd> iptable: ftp is not sane
[14:59] <iptable> meganerd, I didn't say it is. passive is closer to sane though then active ;)
[14:59] <iptable> meganerd, I do agtree ftp should be dead, but oh well. just used it as example
[14:59] <meganerd> daftykins: I did not realise that this was now unsupported.   do-release-upgrade worked for me out of the box the day of the release
[15:00] <daftykins> meganerd: yes, but using the -d flag means "upgrade to the development release" which as of 14.10 being available, would mean 14.10 - breaking things
[15:00] <daftykins> meganerd: so basically although it worked, it's a bad move
[15:00] <ikonia> daftykins: thats the subjective bit with the long term support pinning
[15:00] <ikonia> daftykins: however as xombi has already changed this it will break
[15:00] <daftykins> ikonia: sorry i don't follow
[15:00] <daftykins> i'm more talking generally with meganerd now, not that user's issue
[15:01] <meganerd> daftykins: I do not believe that I had to specify -d
[15:01] <ikonia> daftykins: totally
[15:01] <xombi> ikonia: please stop mentioning me.
[15:01] <ikonia> meganerd: you did
[15:01] <xombi> meganerd: it's irrelevant-ish now, but what commands did you use for the update?
[15:01] <ikonia> xombi: I'm using you as a reference for the question you asked
[15:02] <xombi> meganerd: it's irrelevant-ish now, but what commands did you use for the update from 12.04 to 14.04?
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> iptable: it will be alowing the traffic out then back in, some don't do this
[15:02] <meganerd> xombi: that was a few months ago, I updated a bunch of VMs and one host.  Honestly I have been upgrading Debian and Ubuntu machines for so long now that I don't really think about it
[15:02] <xombi> darn muscle memory... it doesn't transfer up into the brain sometimes.
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> iptable: https://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/PortForwardingGuide
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> iptable: if its untrue, you go tell the transmission guys their wiki is wrong
[15:02] <iptable> ActionParsnip, transmission does and works very well without forwarding any ports
[15:03] <meganerd> xombi: so I used do-release, I don't remember doing anything else
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> iptable: see how far you get
[15:03] <meganerd> iptable: it will work better with the ports open
[15:03] <xombi> darn, meganerd. That's the same thing I did, to no avail.
[15:03] <iptable> ActionParsnip, of course everyone wants you to forward ports. idea of torrent is that you share what you download so that torrents work. using transmission without port forwarding though works very well and will just not share.
[15:03] <ikonia> because it won't work
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> iptable: who do you think knows more about transmission?
[15:03] <Alex_86> what is minimum requirement hardware  for UBUNTU 12.04?
[15:03] <ikonia> the version is pinned until 14.04.1
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> iptable: as I said, in some cases it is needed
[15:03] <iptable> ActionParsnip, I think they want you to open ports so you share what you get. for downloading torrents though, it just works.
[15:03] <xombi> I was running it on one core and 512mb ram, Alex_86 :P
[15:04] <meganerd> ikonia: good to know.
[15:04] <iptable> anyways, got visitors just now
[15:04]  * iptable goes away for a sec
[15:04] <meganerd> Alex_86: I had it on a 500 mhz machine with a gig of ram
[15:04] <Alex_86> xombi i have very old PC3
[15:04] <Alex_86> with 512+256MB
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> iptable: yes because upnp is quite common now, sometimes its not
[15:04] <ikonia> Alex_86: you need to probably get away from that
[15:04] <xombi> Alex_86:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements You can probably do it
[15:04] <Alex_86> but processor is 1.2Ghz celeron
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> iptable: just because your router does something doesnt mean all routers do it
[15:04] <xombi> It won't be too fast, but I was running Firefox all right on mine. Ooh... Celeron.
[15:05] <ikonia> p3 is not really up to modern ubuntu requirements
[15:05] <ikonia> I would advise against it
[15:05] <Alex_86> i want install apache PHP and MYsql only
[15:05] <Alex_86> on this Ubuntu
[15:05] <xombi> Best to start with something light, like Lubunto or Xubuntu then...
[15:05] <daftykins> Alex_86: use ubuntu server and that'll be fine, waste of power though
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: 1.4Ghz isn't too shabby. I ran Lubuntu on a 1.6Ghz AMD Sepron AM2 :)
[15:06] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: he's running a P3
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: i guess
[15:06] <zetheroo1> ikonia: wouldn't a P3 really struggle with Unity!? ...
[15:06] <ikonia> which means the video card will be of that area too
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: lubuntu should be ok
[15:06] <Alex_86> i wanna local server for programming in PHP
[15:06] <ikonia> zetheroo1: it wouldn't even be worth trying to use it in the real world
[15:07] <ikonia> Alex_86: could you not use a VM on your desktop
[15:07] <ikonia> Alex_86: or use your desktop - it can run php/mysql just fine
[15:07] <ikonia> you don't need a seperate server/device
[15:07] <Alex_86> I have very old desktop
[15:07] <zetheroo1> ikonia: yup .... I tried running 12.04 on a T42 Thinkpad and it was pretty darn rough
[15:07] <beanee> hey guys, how do i get the Java Control Panel to work on ubuntu
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> beanee: do you have java installed?
[15:08] <beanee> yep
[15:08] <beanee> actionparsnip yes
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> beanee: is it oracle java or open java?
[15:09] <beanee> oracle
[15:09] <blip-> hid, I just bought a CD-R pack. 700 MB. and I realized the ubuntu ISO needs 711MB according to the  burn software
[15:09] <beanee> actionparsnip oracle
[15:09] <iptable> ActionParsnip, no, my router does not to upnp
[15:09] <blip-> shouldn't the software be able to overburn a bit over 700 ?  or is that only on certain CDRs
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> iptable: i give up
[15:10] <ikonia> blip-: dvd only
[15:10] <iptable> ActionParsnip, as stated, I installed it myself, it's an ubuntu 14.04 server with pppoe. I did not install upnp service on it.
[15:10] <blip-> ikonia, damn. have to go out again then.  thanks
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> iptable: ive moved on. Believe what you want.
[15:11] <hid> blip-: the best thing to do is a live usb
[15:11] <iptable> ActionParsnip, ok. I'll believe that my router without upnp (100%, I did not install upnp on it), and my transmission work therefore port forward is not needed to download files.  A dvd is 4.7 or 9.4 gb
[15:13] <beanee> have a nice day you
[15:14] <hid> a usb stick can 128 gb with no problem
[15:14] <catalase> can someone help me troubleshoot an SSH error
[15:14] <catalase> the auth.log is not being very helpful
[15:14] <hid> for me 10 gb is a limit, not 128
[15:14] <catalase> i am trying to log into SSH with a system level account that i created
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> hid: its not limitless though, no storage is
[15:14] <catalase> but it gives "Channel closed" or "Exit Code 1"
[15:14] <catalase> it is immediately terminated when i login
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> catalase: try:  ssh -v user@server
[15:15] <meganerd> catalase: what do you mean by "system level account"?
[15:15] <iptable> ActionParsnip, last one, look at point 9 on official website for transmission. they say you do not need to open ports. case closed :) https://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/SlowSpeeds
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> iptable: then why is there a port forwarding guide on the same page? why maintain it
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> iptable: if its completely not needed?
[15:16] <snufft> hi guys!
[15:16] <iptable> ActionParsnip, the port forwarding guide you sent, in the first 3 sentences explains that you do not need to open ports for downloading, only to share what you are downloading actually.
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> iptable: so, to seed?
[15:17] <iptable> ActionParsnip, and to share with other peers. basically if you have chunk number 500 of the file and a peer has 501, you can share chunk 500 and they share 501. so you can download from each other without the need to have the whole file, both of you
[15:18] <meganerd> iptable: while not *required*, performance will be better as you will have acces to a greater number of peers
[15:18] <meganerd> iptable: in other words it is a good idea.  Arguing semantics is not really useful
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> iptable: just reading that page slowly, makes sense.
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> iptable: y bad
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> *my
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> :)
[15:18] <iptable> meganerd, maxing out 80MBps on a single download on torrent here. performance nowadays is not impacted. Bittorrent speciciation says you MUSt share what you download, hence to not break specification you should be opening the ports
[15:19] <catalase> ActionParsnip, it authenticates, and then sends the environment, but i get "Connection to server closed."
[15:19] <catalase> lol
[15:19] <catalase> debug1: Exit status 1
[15:19] <iptable> ActionParsnip, this normally works quite well as when you open connection to a peer to download and through the same channel they can download back.
[15:19] <meganerd> iptable: on extremely well seeded torrents this is the case, but in cases where the numbers of participants is low, the port forwarding does help
[15:19] <iptable> ActionParsnip, although, you cannot seed, you are using 1 TCP connection to upload and download and some clients will refuse to let you download some chunks if you fail to share others via open ports (older clients)
[15:19] <meganerd> iptable: also, I have a 100mbit and a 50 mbit connection here
[15:20] <meganerd> iptable: which is my house :P
[15:20] <iptable> meganerd, I only have 2x80MBps in my house :P looks like we are both posh :D
[15:20] <meganerd> iptable: indeed
[15:20] <iptable> meganerd, although I am only getting 20MBps upload on each link dammit. they want to force me to buy lease line, there is no other reason to limit it.
[15:20] <ajnr> Hi I am unable to read the symbol in ubuntu but it is working in mac, actually this was a code of fragment in java.http://fpaste.org/119776/60314891/ please help me out
[15:20] <iptable> meganerd, agreed. on low-connection torrents, it makes sense to share
[15:21] <meganerd> iptable: though I live in western canada so latency is not great.  Also no native ipv6 ISPs
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> ajnr: what symbol?
[15:21] <iptable> meganerd, for my few websites and a mail server, it will do ;)
[15:21] <ajnr> ActionParsnip, its given in the link
[15:22] <ajnr> ActionParsnip, http://fpaste.org/119776/60314891/
[15:22] <Amaze-balls> Can I use dd if=/path/image.iso of=/dev/cdrom1 to burn a linux Iso ?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Amaze-balls: no, you will need grow2ofs (sp) or similar
[15:22] <iptable> ActionParsnip, we live and learn and all make mistakes (if I can say so about myself). Point is to learn :)
[15:22] <Amaze-balls> Cool thanks
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> iptable: always learn
[15:22] <ajnr> ActionParsnip, I am not able to read the symbol in the eclipse editor.
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> !burn | Amaze-balls
[15:23] <Amaze-balls> I was trying wodim but some how wodim -devices doesnt find my device
[15:23] <Amaze-balls> :S
[15:23] <iptable> burn amaze balls? that sounds plain wrong :D
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> Amaze-balls: there are other cli burners
[15:24] <daftykins> iptable: keep the off-topic comments to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[15:24] <Amaze-balls> cause mostly Im working from a terminal looking for a terminal option
[15:24] <Amaze-balls> I'll give the other apps a try
[15:24] <iptable> daftykins, sorry. got carried away
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Amaze-balls: growisofs -speed=2 -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvdrw=dvd_image.iso      if yu have a DVD ISO
[15:25] <iptable> Amaze-balls, wodim is a good cli tool
[15:25] <iptable> and that
[15:26] <catalase> meganerd, the account that i am trying to use to SSH was created with --system
[15:26] <iptable> Amaze-balls, amazingly you can use dd to burn an ISO, although whether that will work depends on ISO type
[15:27] <meganerd> catalase: was there anything in syslog?
[15:27] <meganerd> catalase: is there a valid shell, password, and "home" directory?
[15:27] <iptable> and apparently firmware
[15:29] <iptable> Amaze-balls, dd if=/home/me/test.iso of=/dev/sr0 obs=32k seek=0 worked a charm
[15:29] <catalase> meganerd, yes
[15:29] <catalase> it connects properly, and the disconnects immediately
[15:32] <meganerd> catalase: and what do you see in auth log and syslog?
[15:32] <meganerd> catalase: are you using a password or ssh keys?
[15:33] <Amaze-balls> Well Thats all folks for today...see ya again later.
[15:35] <catalase> meganerd, using SSH keys
[15:35] <catalase> meganerd, the key was accepted (authentication succeeded)
[15:35] <meganerd> catalase: and what shell is defined for this user?
[15:35] <lucas_>  bom dia!
[15:36] <meganerd> catalase: that is the auth log, what does syslog say?
[15:36] <catalase> megabit|away, how do i check what shell is defined for the user
[15:36] <lucas_> algum br ai
[15:36] <Pici> !br | lucas_
[15:36] <hseg> Hi. I'm trying to install Magento, and it tells me that "PHP extension "mcrypt" must be loaded.". I ran apt-get install php5-mcrypt && service apache2 restart, but this still happens.
[15:36] <lucas_> #ubuntu-br
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> hseg: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:38] <catalase> isn't there a place that has the default locations of all of the logs?
[15:38] <catalase> this is kind of ridiculous
[15:38] <catalase> no way i will remember the location of every single log
[15:38] <hseg> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[15:38] <meganerd> catalase: /car/log
[15:38] <meganerd> catalase: /var/log
[15:38] <catalase> google "ssh sys log" lol, nothing
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> hseg: seen this guide: http://davidtsadler.com/archives/2012/06/03/how-to-install-magento-on-ubuntu/
[15:39] <hseg> Following that.
[15:39] <meganerd> catalase: what are the file permissions of the "home" folder?  What is the shell that user is set to use?
[15:39] <hseg> Don't think I missed a step
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> hseg: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23294428/unable-to-install-magento-on-ubuntu-14-04
[15:40] <catalase> meganerd, the permissions are correct, 0700, and 0600 for authorized keys file
[15:40] <meganerd> catalase: and syslog is the application default log.  Probably the single most important log file.
[15:40] <meganerd> catalase: not what I asked for
[15:40] <catalase> but how do i check the shell that i set it to use
[15:40] <meganerd> catalase: grep <user> /etc/passwd
[15:40] <hseg> I'm trying to install magento v1.9
[15:40] <catalase> btsync:x:105:113::/home/btsync:/bin/false
[15:40] <meganerd> catalase: it will be the last segement, as delineated by a colon ":"
[15:41] <meganerd> catalase: there you go
[15:41] <hseg> which is two minor versions after the problematic one on that SO post
[15:41] <catalase> meganerd, what should it be set to
[15:41] <meganerd> catalase: depends on what you want to do
[15:41] <catalase> needs to be able to SFTP
[15:41] <catalase> and send files
[15:42] <catalase> i think it needs /bin/bash
[15:42] <catalase> are there other options?
[15:42] <meganerd> catalase: google for sftponly
[15:42] <mjuszcza1> I'm using dh_make to build a package tree and then debuild -S, but it's adding a -1 after the package version.  Any ideas why?
[15:43] <catalase> meganerd, how do i reload the /etc/passwd file after i make changes to it
[15:43] <meganerd> catalase: no need to
[15:43] <catalase> ok
[15:43] <meganerd> catalase: to start with /bin/bash would work to start testing, though you are going to want to lock this down eventually
[15:45] <meganerd> catalase: I wrote a script for where I work to automatically create chrooted sftp only users: https://github.com/meganerd/sftp-manage/blob/master/sftp-files.sh
[15:45] <catalase> meganerd, that is extremely helpful thank you. btw it worked
[15:46] <catalase> i suppose if i change it to /bin/sftponly that would be ideal then
[15:46] <meganerd> catalase: a "system" account generally does not get an interactive shell
[15:46] <catalase> oh
[15:46] <catalase> i see
[15:47] <meganerd> catalase: again it really depends.  If you are just using sftp, or is sftp to allow users to upload their web sites.  THere are a lot of things that you can use this for, and the details will be driven by your requirements
[15:48] <catalase> meganerd, i am the sole user of the server. no one else has RSA keys. no password authentication is allowed. no other users will ever be added
[15:48] <catalase> i should preface that by saying however, that, there is a LAMP stack on this server
[15:49] <catalase> or AMP, i suppose that linux is implied here
[15:49] <punkgeek> failed to build vmnet. failed to execute the build command. what should i do?
[15:50] <daftykins> punkgeek: trying to install vmware is it?
[15:51] <punkgeek> yes
[15:51] <catalase> meganerd, now maybe you can help me answer another question as to why i am always getting "software aborted connection" which occurs after some time
[15:51] <meganerd> catalase: for sftp only I usually do this with group membership and a couple of lines in sshd.conf
[15:51] <ikonia> catalase: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[15:51] <daftykins> punkgeek: well, technically that counts as third party software and is not supported here... surely you've found documentation from them of how to install it?
[15:51] <meganerd> catalase: what is the client?
[15:52] <daftykins> punkgeek: here's a clue though, likely you need to install the package build-essential
[15:52] <catalase> ikonia, meganerd, PuTTY and Ubuntu 14.04 SERVER LTS
[15:52] <ikonia> catalase: so how are you transfering the files exactly,
[15:52] <catalase> ikonia, meganerd, SFTP
[15:52] <ikonia> catalase: how are you doing that with putty
[15:53] <punkgeek> package  build-essential is installed
[15:53] <syntroPi> why does /usr/lib/upower/upowerd need 15.2 GB (!) of memory?
[15:53] <catalase> ikonia, meganerd, i think it could be a firewall issue. it often connects with a non-priveleged port even though i have specified 22
[15:53] <daftykins> punkgeek: back to finding their documentation, then
[15:53] <ikonia> syntroPi: it doesn't
[15:53] <ikonia> catalase: how are you doing that with putty
[15:53] <catalase> ikonia, i could use pscp.exe, but i use FileZilla to transfer files
[15:54] <ikonia> catalase: right, so when you where asked the client - the answer is not "putty" it's filezilla
[15:54] <syntroPi> ikonia, well for some strange reason on my system it sometimes eats up all system memory, are there any memleaks known for this?
[15:54] <ikonia> syntroPi: how are you measuring it's memory use - please don't say top
[15:55] <catalase> ikonia, but the problem is that this issue occurs with PuTTY
[15:55] <ikonia> catalase: the connection is being dropped ?
[15:55] <catalase> ikonia, after some time, a few minutes generally, the connection is dropped
[15:55] <ikonia> catalase: idle or with data moving ?
[15:55] <catalase> it will say something to the effect of "Network error: software aborted connection"
[15:56] <catalase> sometimes it will occur just after i've entered a command
[15:56] <ikonia> catalase: open 2 windows
[15:56] <catalase> sometimes it will occur when it is idle
[15:56] <ikonia> catalase: connect one with ssh
[15:56] <syntroPi> ikonia, actually i wasnt measuring it at all until the kernel started killing other processes, then i looked at gnome system monitor and saw that it comsumes almost all system memory until i killed it
[15:56] <catalase> and do what with the other
[15:56] <ikonia> on the other run mtr to your remote host, and see what / where / when it drops
[15:57] <ikonia> syntroPi: so it's using active memory then ?
[15:57] <catalase> ikonia, can you explain what exactly is mtr and how i might go about doing that. are you referring to matt's traceroute
[15:57] <syntroPi> seems it does
[15:57] <ikonia> catalase: it's like a network monitor for th eroutes
[15:57] <catalase> ikonia, also this issue does not occur when connecting on LAN
[15:57] <ikonia> catalase: see where the connection is dropped
[15:57] <ikonia> catalase: so when does it happen ?
[15:58] <ikonia> syntroPi: get a bug logged for it then
[15:58] <catalase> when connecting via WAN
[15:58] <ikonia> catalase: is this machine hosted at your hoise ?
[15:58] <catalase> ikonia, yes
[15:58] <ikonia> catalase: via a port forwarded router ?
[15:58] <catalase> ports are forwarded properly, but it sometimes uses a nonpriv port
[15:59] <ikonia> catalase: sounds like it's the ISP's network rather than the host dropping the connection
[15:59] <ikonia> catalase: is this an ADSL line ?
[15:59] <catalase> fiber optic
[15:59] <meganerd> catalase: this happens to me at work, the firewall kills the connection without keep alives enabled
[15:59] <ikonia> catalase: verify where the connection drops with mtr
[15:59] <ikonia> catalase: but if it's ok on the lan - then it's not going to be ubuntu causing the problem,
[15:59] <daftykins> a lot of things that marketing tells you are fiber, are actually not
[15:59] <ikonia> catalase: it will be the external connetion/network
[15:59] <catalase> ikonia, still have no idea where to get MTR or how to use it. but i will investigate.
[16:00] <catalase> meganerd, keep alives are enabled. every 5 seconds i think
[16:00] <ikonia> keep alive won't stop network errors
[16:00] <ikonia> it will only stop idle disconnects
[16:03] <shivy> Hello, I have installed ubuntustudio with Unity, and LightDM greeter is unity-greeter. When login screen is displayed, and when i type login and password to my ubuntu session, the voice systhesis speak. I dont know why is is enabled, then i dont see any option to disable it. I dont know ho to disable voice synthezer in ubuntu login screen. I tried search in google but i found nothing about it. Can anyone help me?
[16:04] <meganerd> +1 to what ikonia said.  At work our firewall kills "idle" connections
[16:05] <iptable> hah idle as in "the connection I needed but didn't use for over 3 minutes as I went for a pee"?
[16:05] <meganerd> catalase: from windows I use winscp, and if I want to use a console based app I will usually install cygwin
[16:05] <meganerd> iptable: it is set to 5 minutes, but yes
[16:05] <iptable> hah, ok. I know that one. annoying like hell...
[16:07] <catalase> meganerd, for SSH and SFTP?
[16:08] <ubuntu-gnome> hello all
[16:09] <ubuntu-gnome> im trying to install ubuntu gnome but the interface looks huge
[16:09] <ubuntu-gnome> i dont have enough screen space to partition my hard drive
[16:09] <iptable> ubuntu-gnome, gnome IS a huge heavy beast
[16:10] <ubuntu-gnome> the terminal alone takes up like 60% of my screen
[16:10] <ubuntu-gnome> seems like its on a really low resolution
[16:10] <ubuntu-gnome> odd
[16:10] <bakednotfried> ubuntu-gnome: You have to install your video card drivers
[16:10] <catalase> ikonia, can i query you
[16:10] <hypnosb> i switched to a mirror and get: Failed to fetch mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/dists/raring-backports/universe/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [Mirror: http://mirrors.mit.edu/ubuntu/]
[16:11] <ubuntu-gnome> this is set to 1920x1080
[16:11] <ubuntu-gnome> so the resolution is right
[16:11] <kdz> help, i fiddled in Gparted and now ubuntu wont start
[16:11] <catalase> i am seeing loss at hops 4 and 7. 100% loss
[16:11] <ubuntu-gnome> but my text and windows are HUGE
[16:11] <catalase> when i ping to google.com lol
[16:11] <OerHeks> hypnosb, raring is EOL
[16:11] <OerHeks> !raring
[16:11] <ubuntu-gnome> i dont think i can install nvidia drivers on a live cd can I?
[16:12] <daftykins> ubuntu-gnome: why would you want to?
[16:12] <ubuntu-gnome> my interface is huge
[16:12] <ubuntu-gnome> i dont have enough screen space to partition my drive
[16:12] <ubuntu-gnome> its at 1920x1080 but the windows and text are too big
[16:13] <kdz> help, i fiddled in Gparted and now ubuntu wont start
[16:13] <ikonia> "fiddled with" = not valid information
[16:13] <daftykins> sounds like the DPI has gone funny
[16:14] <ubuntu-gnome> that could be it dafty
[16:14] <ubuntu-gnome> do you know how to change it?
[16:14] <catalase> brb
[16:14] <kdz> ikonia, i wanted to set automount and also changed setting for the drive ubuntu was installed
[16:14] <daftykins> ubuntu-gnome: not if your nickname is a suggestion that you're running the gnome version, no - no idea where to look, some kind of monitors or display configuration maybe
[16:14] <ikonia> kdz: auto mount is nothing to do with gparted
[16:14] <ikonia> kdz: and "changed settings" is not valid information
[16:15] <ikonia> kdz: what you did would be useful though
[16:15] <ubuntu-gnome> my mouse cursor is ginormous
[16:15] <ubuntu-gnome> lol
[16:15] <kdz> i clicked on assistant
[16:15] <kdz> and something about mount at boot
[16:15] <kdz> i cant even go to root from recovery :o
[16:15] <ikonia> kdz: if you've not paid attetion to what you've done - we can't help
[16:16] <ikonia> kdz: the logical solution would be to re-install
[16:16] <ikonia> kdz: and next time pay attention to changes you try to make
[16:16] <hseg> Still can't figure out why mcrypt isn't loading.
[16:16] <kdz> yikes you are a greathelp
[16:16] <ikonia> kdz: you don't even know what you've changed - you can't expect us to help
[16:16] <OerHeks> ubuntu-gnome, if tour window is too big for your screen, you can drag it easily wit left ALT + left mouse
[16:16] <OerHeks> tou-your
[16:17] <ikonia> kdz: so realistically would be to re-install and pay attention when you are making any changes
[16:17] <kdz> ikonia you sound like a windows user, format!
[16:17] <ikonia> kdz: no I don't
[16:17] <ikonia> kdz:  you sound like you have been careless with your system and don't know what you've actually done,
[16:17] <catalase> meganerd, do you know how to set umask for SFTP file creation. so if i have a user upload a file it automatically sets the file or folder to 770
[16:17] <ikonia> kdz: so the realistic solution is to get your system to a stable state where you can know what you do going forward
[16:17] <kdz> ikonia ok thanks for nothing. ill come right (:
[16:18] <ubuntu-gnome> thanks oerheks
[16:18] <rafaelsoaresbr> kdz: 'i clicked on assistant' I don't remember gparted has this option
[16:18] <kdz> rafaelsoaresbr mine had one :<
[16:18] <kdz> and it said in one of the tick boxes, "mount at boot"
[16:19] <kdz> or something simular
[16:19] <ubuntu-gnome> AHA
[16:19] <ubuntu-gnome> i got it ladies and gentlemen
[16:20] <kdz> rafaelsoaresbr are you fimiliar with fstab?
[16:20] <ubuntu-gnome> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=171000
[16:20] <ikonia> kdz: gparted will not change fstab
[16:20] <ubuntu-gnome> it was the "scaling-factor" key in the d-conf editor
[16:20] <ubuntu-gnome> incase anyone wanted to know
[16:20] <ubuntu-gnome> the default value is 1
[16:21] <ubuntu-gnome> thank you to those who helped
[16:21] <randint> I want to boot Ubuntu on an older PC from USB. turns out that the BIOS (Phoenix BIOS) does not allow boot from USB. other option would've been to boot from CD - but turns out the CD-drive is not functioning. it seems to have a floppy drive, but I have no floppy disks atm (and I have no idea where to get those). so what are my options?
[16:21] <ikonia> randint: buy a cdrom
[16:21] <ikonia> randint: they are cheap
[16:22] <ikonia> randint: sorry DVD rom drive
[16:22] <Guest83363> can any1 help me how i use whtsapp on ubuntu 12.04.
[16:22] <ikonia> randint: to be clear
[16:22] <rafaelsoaresbr> kdz: 'mount at boot' has nothing to do with gparted, gparted can set up 'boot flag'. it's diferent
[16:22] <wormeyman> randint: i've used PLOP boot manager to boot from USB after starting from a CD but you'll still have to buy a CD rom drive.
[16:23] <randint> ikonia, wormeyman: yeah, guess there's no other way
[16:23] <Nimkar> plz tell me hw cn i use android app on ubuntu 12.04?
[16:23] <ikonia> Nimkar: it's an "android" app, not "ubuntu app"
[16:23] <ikonia> Nimkar: you dno't
[16:23] <randint> ikonia, wormeyman: but a friend of mine has an external DVD-drive that connects with USB. would that work?
[16:23] <ikonia> randint: doubtful as that is usb boot
[16:25] <Nimkar> ikonia: i min i wan to use adnroid apps on ubuntu.
[16:25] <iptable> Nimkar, install genymotion
[16:25] <ikonia> Nimkar: I mean "you don't do that, they are not designed for use with ubuntu"
[16:26] <pa> how to open start menu with windows key, in ubuntu?
[16:26] <Nimkar> ikonia:oww fck. leav ..thnq .
[16:26] <kimenniil> hello there? :)
[16:26] <ikonia> pa: there isn't a start menu
[16:26] <ikonia> Nimkar: ?
[16:26] <iptable> Nimkar, genymotion provides a semi-simulator and an abstraction layer that let's you run android OS in a window on your system quite smoothly if you have a coreI7 and at least 4GB of RAM. you can install play store and android apps and games inside.
[16:26] <tom__> hi, what alternative for dreamweaver would you recommend?
[16:26] <pa> ikonia, well ok sorry, i meant in gnome-flshback
[16:27] <ikonia> pa: there is no start menu in gnome-flashback
[16:27] <OerHeks> Nimkar, the only way to do that, if i am correct, is to install an android-IDE (=development environment), but that would not look the same, might not have the same functionality too
[16:27] <pa> well on can add it to the bar
[16:27] <ikonia> there is no start menu
[16:27] <pa> "Main Menu"
[16:27] <joshlegs> so im looking for good terminals other than terminator. suggestions?
[16:28] <pa> gnome-terminal?
[16:28] <Nimkar> n wht if i download ADT BUNDLE ???
[16:28] <joshlegs> pa: is that the default with ubuntu ?
[16:28] <iptable> OerHeks, no, as I said, genymotion does it. android simulator which runs smooth due a lot of optimizations
[16:28] <ikonia> pa: again - no main menu
[16:28] <daftykins> Nimkar: you can emulate android but it's not going to work well
[16:28] <ikonia> pa: have you actually got gnome-flashback ?
[16:28] <iptable> Nimkar, genymotion! download, install, use
[16:28] <pa> ikonia, yes
[16:29] <iptable> dammit. am I muted or something?
[16:29] <ikonia> pa: ok - so there is no "start" menu, or "main" menu
[16:29] <joshlegs> yeah it is. id like something that has some good support for multiple shells in a single termial instance
[16:29] <ikonia> pa: so what are you actually using / doing ?
[16:29] <pa> 14.04
[16:29] <pa> gnome flashback
[16:30] <SchrodingersScat> ikonia: no, I can read you.
[16:30] <TBotNik> ActionParsnip: Found out Google had set me to "System Proxy" with one of their java scripts.  Reset to "No Proxy" but then had to rework /etc/network/interfaces file as there were no eth0 settings at all.  My network requires static IPs so set that, but could not access inet.  Finally had to add OpenDNS with dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> as a line into the file and restart eth0.  Now I'm fine!  Thanks!
[16:30] <ikonia> pa: I mean what are you actually doing if you're asking how to map the windows key to the "start menu" or the "main" menu, when they don't actually exist
[16:30] <ikonia> SchrodingersScat: ?
[16:33] <MajorTom> hello
[16:34] <hseg> Trying to install magento <IP_ADDRESS>, it fails due to mcrypt not loading. I installed mcrypt. Help?
[16:34] <daftykins> ground control to MajorTom, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[16:35] <MajorTom> yeah
[16:35] <OerHeks> hseg, magento needs a lot of work, maybe the guys in magento can help,  /join #magento
[16:35] <renebarbosa> hseg, check if the mcrypt lib is being loaded by PHP. You can do it by checking php.ini
[16:36] <renebarbosa> btw, you should use #magento
[16:36] <renebarbosa> as said above :)
[16:36] <MajorTom> I would like to know if there is a way to reach the folder of linux DNS cache
[16:36] <ikonia> MajorTom: it's not a folder
[16:36] <hseg> renebarbosa: Isn't this an ubuntu problem? It seems to have more to do with the fact that mcrypt isn't loading than with magento.
[16:37] <MajorTom> ,,,
[16:37] <renebarbosa> hseg, not necessarily. It can be tons of things, not just the operating system
[16:38] <daftykins> MajorTom: what are you trying to achieve?
[16:39] <MajorTom> Sinceabout5 days I can't connect to a website...so I wondered if it wa a problem about the DNS cache
[16:39] <ikonia> MajorTom: talk to your DNS provider/ISP
[16:39] <ikonia> MajorTom: or check the IP matches the root server
[16:40] <Blaster> Hey I am having a weird issue, where sometimes when I single-click something with my mouse, it's actually double clicking.
[16:40] <Blaster> How can I fix that?
[16:40] <rena_> Hi! Is the mount.cifs Input/output error still being fixed? I've 14.04 with 3.13.0-32 kernel and I'm unable to mount my samba share.
[16:40] <MajorTom> I see...you meant I should search that website using its' IP address
[16:40] <ikonia> MajorTom: no
[16:40] <ikonia> MajorTom: I said nothing of the sort
[16:40] <ikonia> rena_: is this a known error ?
[16:41] <iptable> rena_, works here, so I'm guessing it's on your side
[16:42] <MajorTom> brb
[16:42] <rena_> iptable: Judging from the results of google, I believe so
[16:43] <MajorTom> maybe my nick is already registered...
[16:43] <MajorTom> I will get anotjer one
[16:44] <rain_> Hi, how can I mount windows 8 phone to my ubuntu to transfer files from phone to PC and from PC to phone?
[16:44] <daftykins> rain_: what ubuntu are you running?
[16:44] <rain_> latest
[16:44] <daftykins> should work out of the box if you're using unity
[16:44] <biledemon> Hello. I'm going to dual boot ubuntu 14.04 with windows 8 on a new pc. Does anyone know if Windows require GPT, or is it ok to use MBR?
[16:44] <rena_> I will try to find what's wrong here
[16:45] <Just_Dave> Hello   I am looking to install Ubuntu on an Asus TP600T
[16:45] <daftykins> rena_: are you using fstab or a command to try this samba mount?
[16:45] <daftykins> !touch | Just_Dave
[16:45] <daftykins> Just_Dave: it's not supported yet afaiui
[16:45] <rain_> No special software needed?
[16:45] <rain_> Like drivers or something
[16:45] <daftykins> rain_: shouldn't need to no, this isn't Windows.
[16:45] <daftykins> nor does Windows require such to mount a device as that :)
[16:47] <zanzacar> can anyone help me with this error that I am getting? http://pastebin.com/Mb8wdGTH
[16:47] <zanzacar> I am not sure what libsane is or how to change the permission of the setuid helper
[16:48] <rena_> daftykins: I'm using sudo mount -t cifs -o username=myusername //lanIP/folder /mnt/SMB
[16:48] <kdz> i'm root and i think my filesystem is mounted as read only
[16:48] <kdz> how do i change it?
[16:48] <daftykins> kdz: are you in recovery mode?
[16:49] <daftykins> rena_: you can confirm operation with "smbclient", but you should really be using a credentials file as you can't pass a password like that
[16:49] <kdz> yes
[16:49] <daftykins> !recovery | kdz
[16:49] <daftykins> kdz: point 8
[16:50] <kdz> ok that worked daftykins but i cant edit fstab anymore
[16:50] <rain_> It (win 8 phone) didn't mount it when I usb connected it to PC
[16:50] <kdz> it says permission denied
[16:50] <ikonia> kdz: you do not need to edit fstab
[16:50] <ikonia> kdz: gparted will NOT change fstab
[16:50] <daftykins> rain_: is it unlocked?
[16:50] <rena_> Thank you daftykins
[16:51] <kdz> ikonia it did, there where default used to be is now users
[16:51] <ikonia> kdz: it does not
[16:51] <ikonia> kdz: gparted will not change your fstab
[16:51] <ikonia> kdz: and fstab does not contain any users ever
[16:52] <kdz> omg ikonia u are no help
[16:52] <rain_> daftykins: yes
[16:52] <kdz> i nano /etc/fstab and it was there
[16:52] <rain_> it even asks for password to unlock
[16:52] <ikonia> kdz: gparted will not put users in your /etc/fstab
[16:52] <kdz> ikonia well it did
[16:52] <ikonia> kdz: no, it didn't
[16:52] <daftykins> rain_: as long as you're at the home screen when you plug in, that should probably work... you should check storage settings for being used as MTP when connected... i've never used a windows phone so i have no idea how they work for that
[16:53] <rain_> What's MTP?
[16:53] <rain_> I think I got it work
[16:53] <rain_> I had to unlock mobile before connecting it
[16:54] <rain_> if i connect and then tip password on phone screen then it doesnt mount for some reason
[16:55] <blip-> Hi, my desktop which used to boot LiveCD/LiveUSB just fine doesn't anymore. I see the ubuntu keyboard symbol thing at the bottom then blackscreen.  Same LiveUSB works on other machines
[16:55] <blip-> Bios settings ?
[16:56] <OerHeks> blip-, maybe nomodeset issue ?
[16:56] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[16:57] <rain_> Btw does anyone know and software that I can  use to adjust raw files and then save photos as jpg files? And is there some HDR (High dynamic range) for ubuntu aswell?
[16:57] <OerHeks> rain_, i like darktable for raw work
[16:58] <daftykins> rain_: yeah, it doesn't get a chance to auto mount when it's locked, that's a security mechanism.
[16:58] <kdz> daftykins why do i get a permission denied error after making the filesystem writeable ?
[16:58] <daftykins> kdz: no idea. what are you trying to achieve?
[16:58] <ikonia> kdz: why don't you tell us what really happened
[16:58] <ikonia> kdz: gparted will not put users in /etc/fstab
[16:59] <kdz> daftykins : edit fstab
[16:59] <rain_> well on windows it just mounts later if i unlock later
[16:59] <daftykins> kdz: i was worried you'd say that. i mean the *actual task*
[16:59] <rain_> so I thought I would here also connect and then enter password
[16:59] <blip-> OerHeks, not sure what that is.  Booting the old 12.04, I can't even change boot params cos it doesnt get to the grub menu stage.  As soon as I select "USB" in my boot menu, I see the ubuntu thing at the bottom then black
[16:59] <kdz> daftykins i have to cahnge the mount permissions it seems in fstab
[17:00] <blip-> OerHeks, as in I dont reach the "try ubuntu", "install ubuntu", "check CD for defects" grub menu even
[17:00] <daftykins> kdz: still you are hiding the 'end goal' of this action from us
[17:00] <ikonia> kdz: there are no mount permissions for your root partition in fstab
[17:00] <ikonia> kdz: that is controlled by the file system
[17:00] <kdz> the end goal is to be able to start ubuntu \o/
[17:00] <kdz> i changed some settings it seems
[17:01] <daftykins> kdz: so what happens when you try to boot normally?
[17:01] <kdz> nothing, a curser in the upper left corner flashes
[17:02] <daftykins> mmhmm
[17:02] <daftykins> kdz: well that certainly has nothing to do with fstab
[17:02] <kdz> daftykins: i need to do what is said in this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1446383
[17:03] <olegfusion> hello again. May somebody help me, how can I downgrade apache 2.4 to 2.2 at ubuntu 14.04?
[17:04] <daftykins> olegfusion: the packages available within ubuntu are the supported ones, doing otherwise is not supported nor recommended.
[17:04] <daftykins> kdz: do you believe this purely as a guess?
[17:04] <kdz> nope i remember something about users in gparted
[17:05] <daftykins> kdz: ... what does gparted have to do with not booting?
[17:05] <ikonia> kdz: gparted did not do this
[17:05] <Guest81403> One more question: when I trien to mount my windows 8 phon with  KDE plasma then it didn't mount? is it desktop environment specific?
[17:05] <kdz> i fiddled with settings to automount some drives i have
[17:05] <olegfusion> daftykinds, I asked how to do,not telling about supporting. I have one .so for apache2.2 (compiled only without sources), I should use it. So, question is how downgrade and not about supporting
[17:05] <ikonia> kdz: gparted does not put users in fstab
[17:05] <kdz> rebooted and nothing
[17:06] <daftykins> olegfusion: sorry, we only help with supported things here.
[17:06] <olegfusion> ok, no problem
[17:08] <daftykins> kdz: pastebin your fstab
[17:10] <kdz> daftykins i cant
[17:12] <daftykins> kdz: why not
[17:12] <wheatthin> kdz, pipe it into pastebinit after installing pastebinit
[17:12] <kdz> im in root, cant ssh in
[17:13] <daftykins> you can use the recovery mode to install and pastebinit
[17:13] <wheatthin> you can ssh as a privelaged user,
[17:13] <daftykins> get your networking working first
[17:13] <daftykins> kdz: is it connected via wired?
[17:13] <kdz> yup
[17:13] <daftykins> "dhclient eth0"
[17:13] <daftykins> i actually have to go now though, perhaps wheatthin can take over
[17:14] <softballs> TJ-: hey mate :)
[17:15] <TJ-> softballs: hiya :)
[17:15] <OerHeks> hi sprung
[17:15] <sprung> I use my  signature in a lot of web apps. what would you recommend I use to create a keyboard macro that in a key combination my signature will print?
[17:15] <softballs> TJ-:  all good with you?
[17:15] <phunyguy> sprung: as in a copy and paste?
[17:16] <sprung> phunyguy, it would be the same text blob every time
[17:16] <sprung> 3 lines of text
[17:16] <phunyguy> sprung: ctrl-v is the hotkey for "paste"
[17:17] <OerHeks> !info gnee
[17:17] <sprung> phunyguy, that would be the desired behavior, except i would like to not have to copy the text in the first place,  i want it hard coded so every time i did a key combo it would do my signature, like a macro
[17:17] <phunyguy> sprung: ahh I see.
[17:17] <sprung> i'll check out gnee
[17:17] <phunyguy> ok :) because I have no idea.
[17:19] <mkdmz> Is there a way to get X in chroot?
[17:23] <mkdmz_> is there a way to get X in chroot?
[17:25] <jepeltw> mkdmz_, i've used xrdp from within a docker container, so maybe that or a VNC server would be easiest
[17:25] <Rohan_m> ikonia: i'm inside the directory of /var/www and when i make "ls -la" it shows all file but when i do it using PHP's exec() like exec('ls -la') it only show the current PHP file
[17:26] <ikonia> Rohan_m: pastebin ls -la /var/www/ please
[17:26] <Rohan_m> ikonia: ok
[17:27] <CharlesIC> what is the ubuntu package with gui for lvm?
[17:27] <ikonia> CharlesIC: are you using ubuntu or fedora
[17:28] <Rohan_m> ikonia: here it is http://codejaw.com/bk1k
[17:28] <sprung> CharlesIC, are you looking for GParted?
[17:28] <CharlesIC> no
[17:28] <CharlesIC> gparted cant seem to make lvs
[17:29] <ikonia> Rohan_m: look at hte permissions - root root
[17:29] <ikonia> Rohan_m: you'll need to talk to the php guys in ##php to see how exec works
[17:31] <sprung> CharlesIC, gparted does support lvm's, you need to have the lvm flag checked when you create the physical partition.
[17:32] <sprung> CharlesIC, perhaps you created one without the lvm flag checked
[17:37] <buckaroot> Has anyone used Compiz with an intel hd 4000
[17:38] <sheap> Hi everyone, I'm trying to get trusty to install with a preseed, but I'm getting this error: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/119888/06050678/
[17:38] <sheap> anyone have any ideas?
[17:38] <kdz> no idea shah`
[17:38] <kdz> and sheap
[17:39] <buckaroot> no clue
[17:39] <kdz> hey guys unable to change qnything in recovery mode even after doing the whole mount -o remount,rw / thing
[17:39] <kat_> Hi, guys, I just cleaned installed Ubuntu 14 and am kinda new with it. I downloaded Minecraft to my desktop a few minutes ago, and I only see it in the desktop folder, not on the desktop, so I sent it to the trash. How do I get it as an icon on my desktop next time I download it?
[17:41] <shwaiil> HI
[17:41] <unholycrab> i have deleted an upstart script from my system, and the process keeps respawning when i kill -9 it
[17:42] <shwaiil> Q: I'm ssh to my remote server. My terminal timeout on small idle. This can be annoying as I'll have to ssh back, specially because I'm also sshfs. How to change this timeout or the idle ? Thank you!
[17:42] <zanzacar> can anyone help me with this error that I am getting? http://pastebin.com/Mb8wdGTH
[17:42] <zanzacar> can anyone help me with this error that I am getting? http://pastebin.com/Mb8wdGTH
[17:42] <zanzacar> I am not sure what libsane is or how to change the permission of the setuid helper
[17:42] <eraggo> kat_: you need to install openjdk package
[17:43] <Pici> zanzacar: thats not a valid paste.
[17:43] <glasnost> how do I uninstall something I installed with apt-get?
[17:43] <kat_> I did that too earlier but got rid of it, because I don't know what to do. I can get it again in the software center.
[17:44] <Pici> glasnost: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[17:44] <zanzacar> Pici: Sorry about that http://pastebin.com/xnUvSUxK
[17:45] <eraggo> kat_: after installing the package you need to allow minecraft.jar to be runned as executable. right click on it->properties->permissions tab->and check "allow run as executable"
[17:46] <buckaroot> add the minecraft ppa and then install
[17:46] <buckaroot> easiest way
[17:46] <kat_> ya, I actually know that part. I can't seem to get Minecraft on the desktop. I tried what you said and opening it in the folder with the java, but it didn't seem to work.
[17:46] <zanzacar> Pici: I tried to remove the packagename but it didn't work
[17:46] <kat_> How do I get it to the desktop?
[17:47] <eraggo> you downloaded jar at MC site?
[17:47] <kat_> ya
[17:47] <zanzacar> Pici: http://pastebin.com/fCjEXnMJ
[17:47] <eraggo> then just copy-paste it to there
[17:48] <kat_> you mean copy -paste the icon in the desktop folder to the desktop itself?
[17:48] <Rohan_m> i'm using smuxi and unable to join ##php any hints ?
[17:49] <kdz> anyone willing to help in recovery mode?
[17:49] <OerHeks> Rohan_m, maybe you need to register your name with #freenode
[17:49] <kat_> because I dragged and dropped the icon to the desktop, and it wouldn't open.
[17:49] <OerHeks> !register
[17:49] <ChogyDan> zanzacar: are you using any ppas or other non-standard repos?
[17:49] <Rohan_m> ok
[17:49] <Pici> zanzacar: Looks like something is messed up with your current packages.  Try this:  sudo dpkg -P libsane && sudo apt-get install -f
[17:50] <zanzacar> ChogyDan: I am not sure really
[17:51] <zanzacar> Pici: Here was the result. http://pastebin.com/RvkqSFr5
[17:51] <ChogyDan> kat_: make sure you are using oracle's java, and not openjdk
[17:52] <kat_> oh    I thought openjdk7 was supposed to work. So, oracle's java then in the software center?
[17:53] <kat_> So, when I go online to Minecraft and download it, what to I pick to get it to download on my desktop as an icon?
[17:53] <ChogyDan> kat_: I would say, definitely try oracle's java, see if that works.  Also, run it from the command line so you can see what errors you are getting.
[17:54] <phelix> I just installed new ram and ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize it. But if I run lshw it sees it but not from like free -m and in the details in system settings
[17:54] <omerraja> Playback failure:
[17:54] <omerraja> DVDRead could not open the disc "/dev/sr0".
[17:54] <omerraja> Your input can't be opened:
[17:54] <omerraja> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///dev/sr0'. Check the log for details.
[17:54] <eraggo> kat_: check my msg
[17:54] <omerraja> Hi folks!
[17:54] <ChogyDan> phelix: how much ram, and are you using 32bit or 64bit ubuntu?
[17:54] <phelix> 64bit and its 16gig
[17:55] <omerraja> Im having some iossies with dvds and vlc on 14.4
[17:55] <kat_> eraggo, what do you mean?
[17:55] <OerHeks> phelix, sounds like a issue for #hardware, are you sure your motherboard supports the ammount of ram?
[17:55] <omerraja> Im having some issues with dvds and vlc on 14.4
[17:55] <phelix> Linux rperry-ubuntu 3.13.0-32-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 15 03:51:08 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:55] <phelix> yeah its hows 16 in the bios
[17:55] <kontoo> question: i installed some dependencies for monitorix and afterward the said package, some of that dependencies were already installed as it seems. how can i remove the newly introduced dependency packages? see: http://pastebin.com/e3nH0TVH
[17:56] <kontoo> feels like i just bloated my system and can't get rid of the bloatware
[17:56] <phelix> and it even shows 16 when i run lshw
[17:56] <eraggo> kat_: private chat or similar lol
[17:56] <kontoo> (i can't uninstall all dependencies because some were already installed and are needed by other programs)
[17:56] <phelix> OerHeks: Not sure how it would be a hardware issue if my BIOS shows the correct amount.
[17:56] <ChogyDan> kontoo: apt-get autoremove is a place to start
[17:56] <eraggo> kat_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y3VWA72Az4&feature=youtu.be link i sent to you
[17:57] <omerraja> !
[17:57] <omerraja> anyone !
[17:57] <Jeffrey_f> kat_: you need the jar file (java file).  Once it is on your desktop, right click->properties......on the permissions tab, click the Execute checkbox....click ok and it should work
[17:57] <chris__> hi...when i talk on microphone on skype the sound is noisy...cracking. I need a way to fix it
[17:57] <kontoo> ChogyDan: dang! ur the man ;)
[17:57] <ChogyDan> np
[17:57] <kat_> How do I get it on my desktop, Jeffrey_f?
[17:57] <kontoo> long time ago i used the deb package system... archlinux user forever
[17:58] <kat_> kinda dumb here
[17:58] <kontoo> (but not on server...)
[17:58] <eraggo> kat_: did you download it from minecraft.net?
[17:58] <omerraja> Playback failure:
[17:58] <omerraja> DVDRead could not open the disc "/dev/sr0".
[17:58] <omerraja> Your input can't be opened:
[17:58] <omerraja> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///dev/sr0'. Check the log for details.
[17:58] <zizen> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu, but somehow (despite being careful) I ended up formatting my Windows 8 partition. Is there any way I can recover my files, considering its now an ext4 filesystem?
[17:58] <omerraja> Can anyone please help me out with this>
[17:58] <kat_> ummm I think so.   I've downloaded it successfully on my kids other linux computers.
[17:59] <kontoo> awwww ok autoremove doesn't find anything because i had to install the monitorix package with dpkg -i && apt-get -f install
[17:59] <phelix> There anything else I can do to get ubuntu to recognize my new installed ram?
[17:59] <Jeffrey_f> kat_: https://s3.amazonaws.com/Minecraft.Download/launcher/Minecraft.jar ---  This will likely go to /Downloads       Just move the file to your desktop and follow the previous instructions I types
[17:59] <eraggo> kat_: if so; open your file browser and go to your Downloads folder. Drag-and-drop like you do in windows
[17:59] <ChogyDan> omerraja: try asking your whole question, all in one line.  and use a paste website for showing the error msgs
[17:59] <kat_> oh, so drag and drop
[18:00] <shwaiil> Q: I'm ssh to my remote server. My terminal timeout on small idle. This can be annoying as I'll have to ssh back, specially because I'm also sshfs. How to change this timeout or the idle ? Thank you!
[18:00] <kat_> o.k. will try again.   tanks!
[18:00] <streulma> Ubuntu reports on SSD, Uncorrectable ECC Count, 5 sectors, it's increasing! what does it mean? My SSD is shrunked already...
[18:00] <ChogyDan> kontoo: gtkorphan will search more thoroughly
[18:00] <OerHeks> phelix, pastebin " free -m "
[18:01] <kontoo> ChogyDan: does it work on cli?
[18:02] <kontoo> ChogyDan: http://askubuntu.com/questions/389382/command-line-tool-for-removing-orphaned-packages
[18:02] <kontoo> guess i found something
[18:02] <OerHeks> streulma, perform " sudo fstrim -v / " (it can take a while)
[18:02] <phelix> http://pastebin.com/RH9yNdba
[18:02] <ChogyDan> kontoo: not exactly.  It is a front end for deborphan, which is what you would use on the cli.  I don't know how to do that specifically...
[18:03] <mjuszcza1> Anyone here know anything about dh-make and debuild?
[18:04] <ChogyDan> mjuszcza1: I think there are a couple better rooms, like #ubuntu-motu
[18:05] <phelix> OerHeks: It should show 16gig
[18:05] <mjuszcza1> thanks!
[18:06] <OerHeks> phelix, what are the specs of your motherboard ?
[18:06] <animalroam> Why are so many packages not found now?  For example, I can't apt-get install curl
[18:06] <kontoo> ChogyDan: got deborphan to work, uninstalled a bunch of stuff
[18:07] <SchrodingersScat> !info curl | animalroam
[18:07] <SchrodingersScat> animalroam: must be you
[18:07] <animalroam> SchrodingersScat nope, tried on two vpses on different providers  running 12.04
[18:07] <Jeffrey_f> streulma: Is this the OS drive or a data drive?
[18:08] <animalroam> http://pastebin.com/bATLUYqG
[18:08] <animalroam> I could download it fine a month ago
[18:09] <streulma> Jeffrey_f buyed a few months ago
[18:09] <SchrodingersScat> animalroam: can you even ping the archive.ubuntu.com?
[18:09] <streulma> Jeffrey_f OS
[18:09] <OerHeks> animalroam, run apt-get update first ?
[18:09] <animalroam> already ran update
[18:10] <animalroam> it failed
[18:10] <Pici> animalroam: That paste says you're using Quantal, which is not 12.04, but 12.10. Which readed its EOL date on May 16th.
[18:10] <animalroam> and ping successful: http://pastebin.com/Gm1FKkia
[18:10] <animalroam> yh I meant 12.10 for this vps sorry
[18:10] <Pici> !12.10
[18:10] <phelix> OerHeks: Wow.it is limited at 8gig of memory.
[18:10] <phelix> stupid.. even the bios SHOWS 16 gigs its not letting me use it. That really sucks
[18:10] <OerHeks> phelix, there you go :-(
[18:11] <Jeffrey_f> streu
[18:11] <KiCKiN> I wish I could use ubuntu on my server
[18:11] <animalroam> result of apt-get update: http://pastebin.com/z2B2F81H
[18:11] <eraggo> KiCKiN: why you couldn't?
[18:12] <Jeffrey_f> streulma: The raw value shows the count of errors that could not be recovered using Error Correction Code (ECC).   What is the number you have for the value
[18:12] <KiCKiN> the default resolution for the shell isn't supported by my lcd's
[18:12] <Jeffrey_f> streulma: and where did you get this value from???
[18:12] <xangua> animalroam: install a supported ubuntu release
[18:13] <animalroam> xangua is that the reason?
[18:13] <streulma> Jeffrey_f: Disks app reports
[18:13] <eraggo> KiCKiN: o.O?!?
[18:13] <streulma> Jeffrey_f reports 5 sectors
[18:13] <KiCKiN> I am not sure how to change it before rebooting the installer... after reboot shell and gui resolution cause unsopported resolution on 19" standard lcd
[18:13] <streulma> before it stays at 1 Jeffrey_f
[18:14] <KiCKiN> it will take 1280x1024 from windows all day but not shell or gui on ubuntu desktop or server
[18:14] <Jeffrey_f> streulma: It is common to have errors.  On a consumer SSD, you will find that the SSD's are more prone to errors over an enterprise version of the save drive
[18:15] <KiCKiN> I need a server os I can use for downloading and filtering my email
[18:15] <streulma> it's fine Jeffrey_f ?
[18:15] <eraggo> KiCKiN: are you running server with "external" graphics card?
[18:16] <KiCKiN> no.. the rage2 8MB internal
[18:17] <bekks> KiCKiN: That card is that old that it isnt supported by any reasonable driver anymore.
[18:17] <KiCKiN> I may try it on the laptop I was just given as a test
[18:17] <eraggo> KiCKiN: that is very very old computer aye?
[18:17] <Jeffrey_f> streulma: 5 is a pretty low number.  It may increase, but it should be nothing to worry about
[18:17] <KiCKiN> bekks, that card is still default in most on-board server motherboard video even now
[18:18] <bekks> KiCKiN: Erm, it isnt. And it wasnt five years ago. I'm working with servers all day ;)
[18:18] <eraggo> KiCKiN: that's why you need ssh connection mate
[18:18] <KiCKiN> eraggo, 11 years.. even the new quad core xeon servers I am looking into that are 4 years old use same on-board video card
[18:19] <KeyboardNotFound> Can I change TX POWER on wifi (for edu purpose only )
[18:19] <KeyboardNotFound> ?
[18:20] <KiCKiN> I can do ssh... just need to be able to see the shell to get ssh and such configured and know when it is done booting
[18:20] <KiCKiN> dell 2950's show a similar video card on-board I believe
[18:21] <bekks> KiCKiN: Use the ubuntu server iso, install ssh server during installation, and basically you are done, after configuring the network during installation.
[18:22] <KiCKiN> will try that bekks... centos won't let me pop3 into the server to get mail after fetchmail grabs it
[18:22] <Gabriel_Santiago> hi, can anyone help me re: installing ubuntu server alongside windows (server 2008) on a server with a raid?
[18:23] <KiCKiN> making the os useless
[18:23] <KiCKiN> Gabriel, ESXi or VMWare Server?
[18:23] <KiCKiN> bekks, I'll try it in a bit, thanks again
[18:24] <streulma> I have a dual video card, Intel and ATI, I removed xserver-xorg-video-radeon, with the Intel I had no HDMI audio out, until I find out that I have to install pavucontrol to use it... Intel card is faster :)
[18:24] <bekks> KiCKiN: "Ubuntu" and "Windows", no ESXi and no EOL VMware Server ;)
[18:24] <KiCKiN> hehe
[18:24] <Gabriel_Santiago> I don't know either way, KiCKiN. Thinking that I'm well out of my depth.
[18:25] <KiCKiN> I use 2 servers, 1 for ubuntu, and 1 for win2k8
[18:25] <bekks> !dualboot | Gabriel_Santiago
[18:25] <KiCKiN> just been having issues getting the ubuntu server going...
[18:26] <peezybro> How can I save changes to iptables permanently? I tried service iptables save, but it did not work.
[18:26] <Gabriel_Santiago> I've actually hit a snag along the way. I have a USB set up with Ubuntu Server and installed it. My trouble came with the GRUB bootloader.
[18:26] <Gabriel_Santiago> Honestly, I think the Bootloader is the only problem now.
[18:26] <Busserl> peezybro: you output the current rules to a file
[18:27] <Busserl> peezybro: iptables-save and -restore
[18:27] <Alir3za> Hey
[18:27] <Alir3za> Any Body Here?
[18:27] <Alir3za> :D
[18:28] <KeyboardNotFound> yep
[18:28] <peezybro> Busserl: Thanks!
[18:28] <sheap> anyone know about preseed and/or sysv-rc? http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/145964/ubuntu-trusty-preseed-error
[18:28] <Alir3za> :)
[18:29] <viberto> hi
[18:30] <BrandonC> hey all
[18:30] <BrandonC> so i got lamp up
[18:30] <BrandonC> and im installing phpmyadmin
[18:30] <BrandonC> this site says to add extra security with..
[18:30] <BrandonC> configuring .htaccess file
[18:30] <akp> hey, i am trying to rebuild the wireshark package,
[18:30] <patrick__> i know its off topic but is there a trance or techno channel here on freenode?
[18:30] <viberto> some body know how intstall ultravnc on xubuntu?
[18:31] <akp> but when i use the debian/rules build i keep getting  CAP NOT FOUND error
[18:31] <akp> any advice?
[18:31] <BrandonC> says to use AuthUserFile /path/to/passwords/.htpasswd  .. where is decent place to put ?
[18:31] <BrandonC> i assume /path/to/passwords   is something for me to choose
[18:32] <SAA7160Dave> Hi, I have a HD72a Capture card. lspci reports it as a SAA7160. how do get drivers for this ?
[18:33] <Pici> 70
[18:34] <peezybro> I tried iptables-save and restarted my machine, it did not save the changes.
[18:36] <Alir3za> Any One here?
[18:36] <Alir3za> :-s
[18:37] <grobe0ba> peezybro, did you try iptables-restore after you rebooted?
[18:37] <Busserl> peezybro: iptables-save > myrules.txt, then you need to restore from that at each boot
[18:37] <Busserl> manually probably
[18:38] <Busserl> peezybro: I mean using a boot script
[18:38] <peezybro> That sucks you have to do that at each boot.
[18:39] <Busserl> peezybro: iptables itself won't do it, indeed.
[18:41] <Busserl> peezybro: you can probably use some gui or managment tool to do it for you.
[18:42] <KiCKiN> webmin works well
[18:42] <bekks> !webmin | KiCKiN
[18:42] <bekks> KiCKiN: Webmin doesnt work well at all :>
[18:43] <KiCKiN> really... works ok here
[18:43] <grobe0ba> KiCKiN, are you using a really outdated copy of ubuntu?
[18:43] <grobe0ba> if so, that explains it
[18:45] <Busserl> From my limited linux experience, and some general PC experience, I wouldn't touch it. ^^
[18:47] <bekks> I'm seconding Busserl, I wont touch it with a ten feet pole.
[18:47] <KiCKiN> 14.04 here
[18:47] <bekks> KiCKiN: Using webmin on 14.04 is a very safe way to break things entirely.
[18:47] <KiCKiN> the os isn't my issue... my 11 year old hardware is my issue
[18:48] <KiCKiN> using 14.04 on my hardware breaks things already... what else is useable on 14.04 to make a web admin system?
[18:48] <TJ-> bekks: Incorrect. I've been using webmin *extensively* since 2005 managing isolated Ubuntu servers with quite complex configurations and it has never yet caused any bugs or upgrade failures.
[18:49] <bekks> TJ-: Then I am wondering why it was dropped from the Debian and Ubuntu repos.
[18:49] <KiCKiN> bekks, they have their own apt repo
[18:50] <TJ-> bekks: Because *at that time* it was more RPM RHEL oriented and hadn't expanded its Debian support. Since Ubuntu got popular webmin/virtualmin/usermin support for Debian/Ubuntu style is very good.
[18:51] <bekks> TJ-: Well, I broke my last system using webmin in 2009 - since then, I wont touch it anymore :)
[18:52] <grobe0ba> i've never seen the use of such systems
[18:52] <KiCKiN> I'll get the install done with ssh enabled and then edit sources to set webmin and apt-get it and be ready
[18:52] <grobe0ba> always seemed like a crutch for people who can't be bothered to learn to edit a few files, imho
[18:53] <KiCKiN> bekks, ye of little faith to try again... in 2009 webmin was a rpm resource only
[18:53] <KiCKiN> grobe0ba.. makes it easy to use a better OS than windows for beginning sysadmins
[18:54] <grobe0ba> if they are beginning, then that is the best time for them to learn to do it right
[18:54] <grobe0ba> rather than become dependent on a crutch
[18:56] <KiCKiN> grobe0ba, many servers aren't in their office or bedroom any more... the server might be in a different state and webmin is way easier than a ssh typing all day
[18:58] <KiCKiN> I respect your opinion, but have a different opinion since I am a hardware person... the software is merely an add-on to me...
[18:59] <KiCKiN> I care less what software (OS, etc) is used on the hardware I build or refurbish...
[18:59] <bazhang> !ot
[18:59] <KiCKiN> that is the customers issue since I am not a coder...
[19:00] <KiCKiN> relax bazhang
[19:00] <bazhang> KiCKiN, take the chit chat elsewhere please
[19:01] <KiCKiN> I am on topic, as many have hardware issues with loading ubuntu on their pc hardware, and thus its part of ubuntu topic ;)
[19:01] <BrandonC> so ubunt live cd, says to press ctrl alt f1 and my screen went all gobbldy gook
[19:01] <bazhang> far from it. #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[19:01] <KiCKiN> ctrl alt f1 goes to shell mode
[19:01] <BrandonC> k tnx
[19:02] <BrandonC> it didnt like that
[19:03] <KiCKiN> BrandonC, bazhang doesn't seem to like me helping you with your ubuntu in here and thinks its off-topic... what a laugh to him imho
[19:03] <BrandonC> wait what?
[19:04] <BrandonC> i guess i can understand, boot sector isent really ubuntu yet
[19:04] <KiCKiN> read up and look for his nick
[19:04] <BrandonC> hardware also isent ubuntu
[19:04] <KiCKiN> bzhang can get over himself
[19:04] <jaynext> hi, I have a question? After some usage (opening 10+ tabs in google chrome), some 'Swap' is used. Swap usage is about 76 KiB now. How to bring it down to zero without rebooting? (and I have swappiness = 10).
[19:05] <Spec> jaynext: you could turn swap off
[19:05] <Spec> which forces it to flush it
[19:05] <KiCKiN> stop using more than 4 or so tabs in chrome and do not let it run in background under options
[19:05] <elfkris> i pxe boot a bunch of servers and i'd like to upgrade my 13.04 image to 14.04. anybody know how to do this? or do i need to create a whole new image based off 14.04?
[19:05] <Spec> jaynext: swapoff /path/to/swap
[19:05] <Spec> jaynext: but 76 KiB is not much in swap.
[19:05] <KiCKiN> elfkris, I would say new image
[19:06] <txdv> hello guys, there is this bluetooth app in the notification bar in ubuntu by default, can you please tell me how the application is called? I need the console application startup line
[19:06] <KiCKiN> safer that way
[19:07] <txdv> please just paste "ps aux | grep blue"
[19:08] <jaynext> ok, but I am more interested in what sys admins do, because linux servers are not booted (I think to a year). and if they turn off swap and if memory usage gets maximum, the system will rebooted automatically.
[19:08] <jaynext> *to=for
[19:09] <jaynext> and I think swap makes system slow
[19:09] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I make an upstart for Nagios?
[19:10] <k1l> jaynext: it will not reboot automatically. it will kill porgrams that use ram.
[19:10] <jaynext> oh i see.
[19:11] <rww> personally, I provision enough RAM for the system to work fine, and if something goes nuts I want it killed anyway
[19:11] <jaynext> so there isn't a way to make some Swap usage to zero without turning it off or rebooting.
[19:12] <jaynext> thank you all :)
[19:12] <k1l> swap is slow in comparison to ram. so to think that swap can extend the ram 1:1 is a trap. but there are things that dont mind beeing put on slower swap.
[19:12] <jaynext> for the help.
[19:12] <rww> jaynext: why do you care that you're using 76KB of swap
[19:13] <jhutchins> jaynext: The real measure of what's happening is to use the iostat program from sysstat and watch whether swap is being actively used.  Having some code parked there doesn't really hurt anyhing, it's rapid paging in and out that hurts performance.
[19:13] <jaynext> rww because some times when I use image processing in octave, swap usage comes close to 200 KiB which makes my computer slow
[19:14] <rww> jaynext: 200KB of swap usage is not making your computer slow.
[19:14] <jhutchins> jaynext: It would appear that you need more RAM to process the images you've chosen to work with then.
[19:14] <CarlFK> what is the apt-get do dump its cache?
[19:15] <jhutchins> jaynext: Again, use iostat to see if it's actively swapping or just buffering.
[19:15] <CarlFK> and how do I tell squid to shrink it's cache (0 bytes free.)
[19:15] <jaynext> yup jhutchins I am using 2010 built desktop with 2 GB ram.
[19:15] <jhutchins> jaynext: How big are the files you're editing?
[19:15] <jaynext> and I am student and cant afford brand new computer.
[19:16] <Rohan_m> Is there any other way to copy data from one file to another without sudo prevelage ?
[19:16] <jhutchins> jaynext: Easy to add ram, and for an older computer probably cheap.
[19:16] <jhutchins> jaynext: http://www.pricewatch.com/system_memory/
[19:16] <LordXe-gnu> Rohan_m: why would you need root to copy a file?
[19:16] <bugtraq> Hello All :]
[19:17] <rww> which is entirely orthogonal to the fact that if you're only using 200KB of swap, RAM is not your problem
[19:17] <ikonia> Rohan_m: sort your permissions out
[19:17] <jaynext> jhutchins .. I usually do octave for fun and was using octave as matlab clone to get temporary job at university as junior research fellow
[19:17] <jhutchins> Rohan_m: Yes, of course.  Unless the files are not public writable or readable and belong to another user.
[19:18] <CarlFK> apt-get clean .. yay., 45mb free!
[19:18] <jhutchins> jaynext: If you don't have the ability to invest in new hardware, and you need to do tasks that use more than 2G of RAM, swap is the ideal answer, and a little performance hit isn't a bad compromise (although as k1l says you're probably not hitting that point yet.
[19:18] <_Crash_Laptop> hi, got a problem when trying to upgrade from 12.04LTS via the upgrade manager. I'm getting which seems to be dependency issues - http://bit.ly/1njjSdB
[19:18] <kat_> I can't seem to get Minecraft.jar to open even with it marked executable, and I have OpenJDK7 Java to open it with. What's wrong?
[19:19] <jhutchins> Rohan_m: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[19:19] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, it says on the website in the download section how to open it
[19:19] <kat_> what website are you talking about?
[19:20] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, the minecraft website
[19:20] <kat_> I downloaded it for LInux on that site. Is that right?
[19:20] <Rohan_m> jhutchins: i 'm tryin to copy file in home directory  using "cat" and my user is www-data
[19:21] <OerHeks> kat_, you have been told, to use oracle JAVA, not openjdk..
[19:21] <jaynext> Yeah it is not affecting the system that much but I surely have some lag whenever swap usage is more.... anyways I got the answer.
[19:21] <jaynext>  thanks jhutchins, rww for the help ... :)
[19:21] <jhutchins> Rohan_m: The "correct" command to copy a file is cp, although you can redirect cat to a file in order to copy the data.
[19:22] <kat_> I tried that. It went to the downloads, and I don't know how to open Minecraft with it. How do I do that? Or do I have to make IT executable too?
[19:22] <jhutchins> Rohan_m: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[19:22] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, it tells you in black and white how to run it
[19:22] <root___> hello
[19:22] <OerHeks> !rootirc
[19:23] <kat_> hummm o.k. back to square 1 with Oracle. Oh, maybe I got the wrong one. I look a litte further.
[19:23] <Rohan_m> jhutchins: i was trying to copy a file from /var/www/ to /home directory i made a shell script to copy file but i was running all the commands as www-data so it gave me Permission Denied
[19:23] <ikonia> Rohan_m: how many times
[19:23] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, try... java -jar Minecraft.jar
[19:23] <_Crash_Laptop> in terminal
[19:23] <ikonia> Rohan_m: stop trying to copy things to other peoples home directories
[19:24] <ikonia> Rohan_m: I must have told you this 10 times now
[19:24] <jhutchins> Rohan_m: So you'd want to run it as the target directory user, or use group permissions to grant write acces to both users.
[19:24] <ikonia> Rohan_m: you can't run commands as the user www-data because it doesn't have a valid shell account
[19:24] <kat_> where, Crash_Laptop?
[19:24] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, in the terminal
[19:24] <kat_> k
[19:24] <liquidAnger> hi
[19:25] <Rohan_m> ikonia: there is no other people its just me ? is there any solution should i edit /etc/passwd ?
[19:25] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, make sure the Minecraft.jar is inside your home directory for your user
[19:25] <Rohan_m> jhutchins: i just want permission
[19:25] <ikonia> Rohan_m: I'm not interested if there are "other people" - I've told you this 10 times, it's not about other people
[19:25] <ikonia> Rohan_m: it's about how the permissions are designed
[19:26] <kat_> It says it's unable to get Minecraft.jar file
[19:26] <ikonia> Rohan_m: you have permissions to your own home directory - so you can do what you want
[19:26] <Rohan_m> ikonia: oh my bad i'm just new to this architecture !
[19:26] <_Crash_Laptop> Anybody up for helping with an upgrade issue?
[19:26] <ikonia> Rohan_m: then listen when people help you
[19:26] <ikonia> Rohan_m: instead of ignore advice and hit the same problem, 10 times
[19:26] <Rohan_m> ikonia: yeah ! i'm newbie so i dont know much
[19:27] <ikonia> Rohan_m: again, so listen when people help you
[19:27] <Rohan_m> ikonia: Yes
[19:27] <apcrush> Can anyone help me? New Ubuntu user, WiFi adapter proprietary driver not installing...wifi adapter not working
[19:27] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, copy this ito the terminal
[19:28] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_,          cd ~/
[19:28] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, wget https://s3.amazonaws.com/Minecraft.Download/launcher/Minecraft.jar
[19:28] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, java -jar Minecraft.jar
[19:29] <kat_> It didn't do anything in the terminal
[19:29] <jhutchins> apcrush: What chipset?
[19:29] <kat_> and i got minecraft from that site, Crash Laptop
[19:29] <jhutchins> apcrush: Which release of Ubuntu?
[19:29] <apcrush> bcm4312 by broadcom jhutchins
[19:30] <jhutchins> apcrush: Should work with the default drivers.
[19:30] <apcrush> jhutchins Not sure, most recent and full update install 10 minutes ago
[19:30] <jhutchins> apcrush:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[19:30] <apcrush> Will read, thanks jhutchins!
[19:31] <kat_> o.k. now that last command in the terminal did something there. Now, what do I do?
[19:32] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, run "java -version" in the terminal, without the quotes, does it give a version etc?
[19:32] <apcrush> Sorry jhutchins that is actually BCM43142
[19:33] <kat_> I don't have oracle anymore, because I deleted it awhile ago, so what are we doing? o.k. this is the version in the terminal  1.7.0_55
[19:33] <_Crash_Laptop> good good
[19:33] <kat_> but I went back to the software center and got rid of it a bit ago, so how is the terminal showing it?
[19:34] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, its obviously still installed
[19:34] <kat_> so, now what?
[19:34] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, make sure you are in the right directory where minecraft is downloaded and run "java -jar Minecraft.jar" it should launch
[19:35] <kat_> well, I moved it around. First it was in downloads, then I moved it to the desktop, and now it is at home.
[19:35] <kat_> where should it be?
[19:35] <jhutchins> apcrush: That page still knows more about it than I do.  Been about six years since I had to do anything with a broadcom manually.
[19:36] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, it doesnt matter, just put it somewhere easy like /home/yourusername
[19:36] <jesse__> Chickens
[19:36] <kat_> ummm I am so not used to Ubuntu. I had Linux Lite before, so what do I do? I'm sorry
[19:36] <cschneid> upstart is being phased out? What's the replacement?
[19:37] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, move Minecraft.jar into /home/yourusername
[19:38] <kat_> It
[19:38] <rww> cschneid: systemd
[19:38] <kat_> It's in my home directory with the downloads and the desktop and music etc.
[19:39] <BrandonC> seems recommende boot repair didnt fix my disk boot failiur
[19:39] <k1l_> cschneid: but that takes some time. 16.04 is the target for full standard.
[19:39] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, good! now in the terminal, type in "java -jar Minecraft.jar"
[19:39] <kat_> k
[19:39] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, it may take a little bit for the minecraft launcher to load
[19:39] <cschneid> k1l_: should I just keep using upstart?   Might as well stick with upstart for now?
[19:41] <k1l_> cschneid: for the releases there will still be upstart as standard. so for now use that. in the long run they will switch to systemd. but its even not installable in 14.04 so far
[19:41] <DJones> !test
[19:42] <cschneid> k1l_: ahh, didn't realize it's not even installable yet - thought it was further along.  We're on 14.04 for a few years, so just stick with that
[19:42] <cschneid> thanks for the help
[19:43] <_Crash_Laptop> Is anyone available to help with an upgrade because of dependency issues?
[19:43] <ikonia> _Crash_Laptop: what sort of dependency issue ?
[19:44] <_Crash_Laptop> ikonia, precisely = http://bit.ly/1njjSdB
[19:44] <_Crash_Laptop> not exactly sure how to make heads or tales
[19:45] <_Crash_Laptop> ikonia, its an upgrade from 12.04 via the upgrade manager
[19:45] <ikonia> cschneid: that looks like you've got a PPA installed
[19:45] <ikonia> _Crash_Laptop: upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 - shouldn' tbe available until 14.04.1
[19:45] <apcrush> Can anyone help? I am attempting to install drivers needed for WiFi adapter, but Ubuntu is asking that I insert 14.04 Trusty Tahr amd64. I have no disk for this, and loaded ubuntu from jump drive
[19:46] <_Crash_Laptop> ikonia, well this says otherwise lol
[19:46] <_Crash_Laptop> ikonia, seems to be HWE
[19:46] <Rohan_m> Hello anyone working on USART module ?
[19:46] <ikonia> _Crash_Laptop: do you have any PPA's or 3rd party PPAs ?
[19:46] <ikonia> someone else had a conflict with HWE yesterday
[19:47] <lolmaus> Is there a command to enable/disable a cronjob (a file in /etc/cron.weekly) without moving the file manually? Something like a2ensite or ifup
[19:47] <_Crash_Laptop> ikonia, hmmmm, not sure but i'll double check
[19:48] <raj_> hey!
[19:49] <_Crash_Laptop> ikonia, got an "extras.ubuntu.com" in the sources.list but thats there by default, i haven't added anything to this file before
[19:49] <ikonia> _Crash_Laptop: remove the HWE packages then
[19:49] <raj_> i want to contribute to ubuntu
[19:49] <_Crash_Laptop> ikonia, i'm not sure what they are
[19:49] <raj_> i did read  about the different ways to contribute
[19:50] <charany1> Hi all, I already have ubuntu 12.10 installed in my system and I am trying to install 14.04 from a bootable usb,but I want to know if I select install ubuntu with windows,1)will it be safe
[19:50] <charany1> ?
[19:50] <ikonia> _Crash_Laptop: should be listed in the package manager, basically newer kernels
[19:50] <ikonia> _Crash_Laptop: although that error isn't on the kernels
[19:50] <ikonia> charany1: do you mean Wubi ?
[19:50] <sheap> how would I set the $PATH variable in a preseed?
[19:50] <charany1> yes
[19:50] <modemmff> please join ##etc it is a channel for talking about ubuntu and tech support
[19:50] <modemmff> join ##etc now
[19:50] <modemmff> please join ##etc
[19:50] <modemmff> ##etc is good
[19:51] <jepeltw> lolmaus, chmod -x filename might work
[19:51] <_Crash_Laptop> ikonia, yeah i get an "new hardware support is available" in the manager and when i click install it gives me a button to upgrade, but then it just gives me that error i showed you from the screenshot
[19:51] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, did it work?
[19:52] <charany1> thanks ,modemmff going to ##etc
[19:52] <raj_> i am in college and need a mentor to guide or get me started on ubuntu contribution. I have no clue about it. Can anyone help?
[19:52] <_Crash_Laptop> raj,Google
[19:53] <xangua> !contribute | raj_ _Crash_Laptop
[19:53] <kat_> NO! Well, remember that I deleted oracle awhile back, and then I got JDK back from the software. In the terminal, it is stuck while loading after getting "sellected default".
[19:54] <kat_> like it needs to load more.
[19:55] <jhutchins> kat_: You could install the JDK from Ubuntu...
[19:55] <kat_> I got it from the Ubuntu Software
[19:55] <_Crash_Laptop> ikonia, how did the other guy get the HWe fixed?
[19:55] <raj_> @Crash_Laptop- i would love to use Google and have been infact as of now. @ubottu - I have already checked out these links. The thing is I want to show it as my academic project rather than the cliched projects proposed by my professor and I find it risky in just trying a hand at it.
[19:55] <jhutchins> kat_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[19:56] <ikonia> _Crash_Laptop: removed the packages
[19:56] <ikonia> _Crash_Laptop: booted into older kernel
[19:56] <ikonia> _Crash_Laptop: but that dependency looks different to his
[19:56] <_Crash_Laptop> ikonia, yeah i'm always unique when it comes to problems :P
[19:57] <jhutchins> raj_: 1) @ is not a valid irc token; 2)ubottu is a "bot".
[19:58] <aramus> Hi there, I recently cloned my harddrive using the DD command and now whenever i try to boot I get the error Alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid... does not exist
[19:58] <raj_> jhutchins_: okay! thanks for that! :P
[20:03] <schultza> What channel do I go to for asking questions on gnome-shell?
[20:05] <Busserl> aramus: I think you need to chroot from a live cd, if it is not booting anymore. Then change UUID in /etc/fstab, then sudo update-grub.
[20:07] <Busserl> aramus: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171446/how-to-fix-the-uuid-in-grub-after-restore-from-another-machine
[20:08] <aramus> ok thanks Busser
[20:09] <Karmahacker> Hi all how i could got all updates to  ubuntu 12.10 ?
[20:10] <bodhi_zazen> Karmahacker: 12.10 is at eol, so no supported and there are no updates. Upgrade or install a new version
[20:11] <eflynn> is 14.04.1 out
[20:11] <ikonia> eflynn: what does it say on ubuntu.com
[20:11] <Karmahacker> bodhi_zazen  yep but i can't apt-get install update-manager-core
[20:12] <eflynn> ikonia: scheduled for july 24th
[20:12] <ikonia> eflynn: right - so there is your answer
[20:12] <bodhi_zazen> Karmahacker: sort of pointless to go 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04 , most of those are at eol and lots or potential errors
[20:12] <ikonia> eflynn: information like that is freely available by checking official sources
[20:13] <bodhi_zazen> Just do a fresh install of 14.04, do not format / and your data in home will be preserved
[20:13] <eflynn> ikonia: yeah but it’s looking like they released early
[20:13] <Karmahacker> bodhi_zazen  i have 38 servers )))
[20:13] <ikonia> eflynn: why is it looking like that ?
[20:13] <eflynn> ikonia: because i have 14.04.1
[20:13] <ikonia> eflynn: where ?
[20:14] <eflynn> ikonia: sigh… i just upgraded and got the point release
[20:14] <ikonia> eflynn: how did you upgrade ?
[20:14] <eflynn> ikonia: dist-upgrade
[20:14] <ikonia> eflynn: and you didn't need the -d option ?
[20:14] <Karmahacker> bodhi_zazen that what i want to do...  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades  here they says
[20:14] <eflynn> ikonia: that’s do-release-upgrade, that’s different
[20:14] <ikonia> eflynn: ahh sorry you mean dist-upgraded a 14.04 install
[20:14] <ikonia> eflynn: sorry missunderstood
[20:15] <ikonia> eflynn: so if you do lsb_release -a you now get 14.04.1
[20:15] <eflynn> ikonia: yeah
[20:15] <bodhi_zazen> Karmahacker: well, considering 13.10 is going eol in 2 weeks, what is the point ?
[20:15] <randint> hello, I'm on Lubuntu 32-bit. I used this tutorial (http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-install-nvidia-graphics-driver-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat) to install graphics drivers on NVIDIA GeForce MX420. after restart I couldn't choose any resolutions than 640x480. now the letters are so small and the icons are huge. any suggestions on how I could change resolution?
[20:15] <ikonia> eflynn: fantastic so ubuntu don't stick to their own shedcule
[20:16] <bodhi_zazen> Karmahacker: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-old-unsupported-release
[20:16] <bodhi_zazen> but you are on your own if it breaks ;)
[20:16] <Karmahacker> bodhi_zazen thanks will chek it )
[20:17] <Karmahacker> bodhi_zazen i have no choice 38 vsrvers need to be update  dont want to think about  re-install it :(((
[20:17] <BrandonC> is grub only used if you dual boot?
[20:17] <eflynn> ikonia: well now you know, you heard it first
[20:17] <newbie|3> I've gotten rid of basically everthing associated with wine and with wine1.6  Only some png pictures are left.  Still problems with that partial installation.  Any more ideas?
[20:18] <ikonia> eflynn: someone just raised a good point, you've not got the proposed repos enabled have you
[20:18] <ikonia> lookinat the repos on http - it looks like you've not, but it's worth asking
[20:18] <eeee> BrandonC: no.
[20:18] <k1l_> BrandonC: no. its used for every sort of boot. but on ubuntu only its hidden by default (since you dont want to choose anyway)
[20:18] <eflynn> ikonia: have trusty and trusty-updates — running official cloud image
[20:19] <bodhi_zazen> Karmahacker: I highly suggest you go with 14.04 , and I would not advise you run Ubuntu beyond EOL, not really best practice
[20:19] <BrandonC> so if im having boot issues re install grub with live cd?
[20:19] <jere> for a kernel module to be portable, it must be able to be compiled against any kernel source, correct?
[20:19] <k1l_> BrandonC: depends on the issues.
[20:20] <Karmahacker> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades
[20:20] <Karmahacker> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrustyUpgrades
[20:20] <Karmahacker> bodhi_zazen  that what i want to do
[20:20] <BrandonC> after post i get DISK BOOT FAILURE... k1l_
[20:21] <k1l_> BrandonC: do you see the disk in bios?
[20:21] <Karmahacker>  bodhi_zazen  they suggest  12.10 >  13.10 >   then   13.10 to 14.04
[20:22] <randint> hello, I'm on Lubuntu 32-bit. I used this tutorial (http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-install-nvidia-graphics-driver-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat) to install graphics drivers on NVIDIA GeForce MX420. after restart I couldn't choose any resolutions than 640x480. now the letters are so small and the icons are huge. any suggestions on how I could change resolution?
[20:22] <Karmahacker> but i cant install  install update-manager-core
[20:22] <Ziber> So, I'm trying to come up with a way to retro-fit a server with LVM on it's filesystem. There's no easy way to do this, is there?
[20:22] <k1l_> BrandonC: that sounds like a cable or hardware problem. not a software one
[20:23] <bodhi_zazen> Karmahacker: see the link I gave you from askubuntu
[20:23] <jepeltw> Ziber, as in, take a server that does not use LVM and then make it use LVM?
[20:23] <BrandonC> i just had it runing last night, left it, in morning it wouldnt wake from sleep so i had to hard power it, and got that message k1l_
[20:23] <Ziber> Yes.
[20:23] <jere> for a kernel module to be portable, it must be able to be compiled against any kernel source, correct?
[20:23] <Ziber> I'm gonna head home and see if I can figure this out.
[20:24] <brasileiro> hi everyone! I'm having a few problems with my laptop that I think may be BIOS related... does anyone know how to perform a BIOS update without a Windows station? I'm thinking about BartPE but kinda afraid it goes south... any toughs? the BIOS file is this one: http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=FJY72&fileId=3290558924&osCode=BIOSA&productCode=inspiron-17r-se-7720&languageCode=EN&categoryId=BI
[20:25] <jepeltw> Ziber, you can't do it in place, so you would need to tar up the entire system, delete your partitions, create an LVM PV and LVs, then restore the entire system
[20:25] <ikonia> brasileiro: talk to the hardware vendor support
[20:26] <widmo> Hi, I've got a problem with qtcreator on ubuntu 14.04 (with unity) - hotkeys like ctrl+f4, ctrl+shift+u are not working
[20:27] <widmo> Is there a way to fix it?
[20:29] <Joe_CoT> Any reason why kernel log messages on 14.04 would have a completely wrong date, far in the future? I found this one post about it, but no solutions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2223834
[20:29] <sean__> hi!
[20:29] <dusf> with clonezilla restore parts, if you back up all partitions on a dual boot system, once restoring, can you opt to only restore say the windows partitions linux or do you have to restore them all?
[20:30] <ikonia> Joe_CoT: standard 14.04 install on hardware local to you ?
[20:31] <Joe_CoT> ikonia, installed on EC2 from a standard Ubuntu AMI
[20:31] <ikonia> there we go then
[20:31] <ikonia> it's possible the kernel (not your kernel as it's a shared kernel) is not in the time sync
[20:31] <ikonia> so your kernel events are out of sync
[20:32] <ikonia> Joe_CoT: maybe worth asking amazon support
[20:32] <Joe_CoT> I'll give that a try. thanks
[20:32] <Busserl> Joe_CoT: does the server get time from ntp? As far as I know, Amazon does not provide time sync to their vms.
[20:32] <kontoo> what mailserver would you guys recommend that is easy to setup and compatible with fail2ban?
[20:33] <Joe_CoT> Busserl, The server does indeed get time from NTP. The server time is correct. All my other log entries have the correct time. only the kernel log entries are off by 2 months
[20:33] <Busserl> Joe_CoT: I see, sorry, no idea.
[20:35] <parabool> hi guys. i want to install ubuntu, i am downloading the .iso file. the problem is, i have a cd-r cd fuji. i think it is only 800MB, but the iso is bigger... i have network connection; is there another way? thank you (32-bit btw - in french)
[20:35] <jhutchins> parabool: I think there's a netinstall image available.
[20:36] <parabool> jhutchins: where? i've looked for that, but i can't find them
[20:36] <xangua> parabool: so get a dvd or a usb stick
[20:36] <parabool> xangua: can't
[20:36] <toyotapie> untu-server
[20:36] <adamcunnington> Hi, in 14.04, how can I add a folder to Places in Nautilus, I can't drag and drop.
[20:37] <Pici> parabool: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[20:38] <jhutchins> parabool: Well, here's one alternat method using grub4dos: http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[20:40] <parabool> Oh but, I wasn't aware i could install a .iso file on 2 cd's and install from that? if that's the case, there is no problem. i have more than 1cd
[20:40] <dusf> with clonezilla restore parts, if you back up all partitions on a dual boot system, once restoring, can you opt to only restore say the windows partitions or the linux partitions or do you have to restore them all? basically i am wondering if i can use partclone to backup all partitions and selectively restore them if necessary, or do i have to separately backup each set of partitions?
[20:40] <jhutchins> parabool: Here's the minimal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[20:40] <parabool> jhutchins: i will use 2cd's to burn the iso(i wasn't aware i coudl do that and still use the .iso as installer media)
[20:41] <adamcunnington> .mp4 files are still opening in an application despite the fact that the default applications in settings for both music and video are VLC player
[20:41] <jhutchins> parabool: Ah, minimal install is what you use for netinstall.
[20:42] <Busserl> dusf: usually dual boot and partition backup are separate things. If you decide to restore only one of them, the only thing you might need is to recreate a proper boot manager. Both windows and Linux can do it.
[20:43] <parabool> jhutchins: yeah i know. but i need the install in french. and if i can install with 2cd's, that's the easiest
[20:43] <jhutchins> parabool: Best of luck then.
[20:43] <parabool> thank you!
[20:43] <l1th1um> hey i have a question about a laptop wifi card anyone good with portable hardware?
[20:43] <Busserl> parabool: I doubt you can split the iso onto two media, if that is what you meant.
[20:43] <jhutchins> Busserl: See previous url.
[20:44] <dusf> Busserl: ah but i am already backing up the boot partitions, so restoration works
[20:44] <Busserl> jhutchins: good luck then :)
[20:45] <dusf> Busserl: i am just wondering if i clonezilla all partitions together once restoring can i restore partitions selectively
[20:46] <Busserl> dusf: The boot partition depends somewhat on what os is installed. Windows has its boot partition as well as linux. Then the boot manager might also be installed to the hdd's mbr. Whatever you do, restoring the boot process should be a simple task, in case you need it.
[20:46] <parabool> i've read other things now... so what i want to do: i have cd's 700 Mo. the.iso is 940Mo. Can i burn a part on the iso on one cd, the burner asks me then to put in another cd. when i have 2 cd's, i put the first in the drive, install etc, and ubuntu asks me to insert second cd ? (basically like any multiple-cd software) ? want to be sure as not to waste time/cd's
[20:46] <adamcunnington> .mp4 files are still opening in an application despite the fact that the default applications in settings for both music and video are VLC player
[20:46] <jepeltw> parabool, the ubuntu installer has no support for that as far as I know, sorry
[20:47] <parabool> damn
[20:47] <dusf> Busserl: i have restored sucessfully before just by restoring the windows partitions, or linux partitions individually
[20:47] <Busserl> dusf: cool then :)
[20:47] <parabool> is there a french minimalCD? i need the install in french;;; but i can't seem to find it
[20:48] <BrandonC> ok, so i got t his . http://paste.ubuntu.com/7838402/
[20:48] <BrandonC> what do i look at to fix boot failure?
[20:48] <Busserl> parabool: the installer always offers you to choose the language for the installed system.
[20:49] <sheap> why is preseed such a biznatch
[20:49] <jhutchins> sheap: It's a complex problem.
[20:49] <parabool> Busserl: thanks. ubuntu website says UEFI mode is not supported via netinstall. i am trying to install on an old laptop; that used to have windows vista. i guess that is just BIOS ?
[20:50] <jhutchins> parabool: EFI would be unlikely.
[20:50] <krnl`> how can i install 14.04 desktop using software raid? i can't find alternate downloads on the website anymore.
[20:50] <parabool> great
[20:50] <Busserl> parabool: can't be sure, but old laptop sound like no EFI/UEFI involved.
[20:50] <sheap> jhutchins: it's just straight up ignoring what I put in
[20:51] <jhutchins> sheap: I haven't worked with it (I've used kickstart), but it's real picky about syntax and order.
[20:52] <adamcunnington> Hi, in 14.04, how can I add a folder to Places in Nautilus, I can't drag and drop.
[20:53] <xangua> adamcunnington: you mean the sidebar¿
[20:53] <sheap> jhutchins: It had the wrong repos so I added the correct ones, they worked. Then 'insserv' package for some reason is not installed in any path so sysv-rc fails because the command 'insserv' isnt in a path, so I add a "late_command" to symlink insseerv and now the repos dont work!
[20:53] <jepeltw> adamcunnington, navigate to the folder and then choose Bookmarks -> Add Bookmark from the menu?
[20:54] <rE-BoOt> hi
[20:54] <rE-BoOt> join my channel to help me please its #gamedevhelp
[20:54] <rE-BoOt> i really need help
[20:55] <OerHeks> rE-BoOt, ask here
[20:55] <parabool> using the minimalCD, after install i'll still have by standard a Unity DE installed, everything the same ?
[20:56] <OerHeks> parabool, yes
[20:56] <parabool> thx
[20:57] <lolmaus> jepeltw: thx
[20:57] <rE-BoOt> are there any lua scriptable game engines whicha re free ?/
[20:57] <jepeltw> lolmaus, was that the /etc/cron.weekly thing?
[20:58] <Pici> rE-BoOt: OerHeks assumed it was an Ubuntu question that you had.  Please find a proper channel to ask this in. #freenode might be able to help you find one.
[20:58] <rE-BoOt> ok
[20:59] <lolmaus> jepeltw: yup
[21:00] <adamcunnington> xangua: yes
[21:00] <adamcunnington> jepeltw: where is bookmarks?
[21:00] <xangua> adamcunnington: in the menu bar
[21:01] <adamcunnington> xangua: i don't see that - are you referring to within nautilus?
[21:01] <adamcunnington> xangua: i have places, devices and network
[21:01] <OerHeks> !info love
[21:01] <OerHeks> oh he is gone
[21:02] <adamcunnington> OerHeks: can you help?
[21:02] <adamcunnington> OerHeks .mp4 files are still opening in a non-default  application despite the fact that the default applications in settings for both music and video are VLC player
[21:08] <BrandonC>  so im reinstalling ubuntu. and when i go to something else and remove partitions and hit back it puts partitions back on..
[21:08] <OerHeks> adamcunnington, click on th *.mp4, open with ... and you will see vlc not on top, click the 1st application on top with right mouse > forget, so VLC is on top
[21:08] <layan911> hola
[21:09] <BrandonC> and my report says i have a sda2 , but ubuntu install only sees sda1 and sda5
[21:09] <layan911> alguno sabe como instalar GALA de ElementaryOS en Ubuntu 14.04?
[21:09] <eeee> !es | layan911
[21:09] <adamcunnington> OerHeks: tried that but it won't remove Handbrake from the list
[21:10] <OerHeks> adamcunnington, sorry, i have no clue then
[21:11] <TJ-> BrandonB: sda2 is an Extended Partition, an additional Partition Table linked to the primary table... it isn't a file-system container, it only hold additional partitions
[21:11] <OerHeks> this is the only method to force all movies/music to vls AFAIK
[21:11] <TJ-> BrandonC: Grrr, tab-completion! sda2 is an Extended Partition, an additional Partition Table linked to the primary table... it isn't a file-system container, it only hold additional partitions
[21:11] <adamcunnington> OerHeks: i fixed it in properties by resetting and then changing default application, must have been some bug before
[21:11] <adamcunnington> OerHeks: also, do you know how to add a folder to places in nautilus in 14.04?
[21:12] <BrandonC> TJ-, if i ues entire disk for ubuntu, how many sda should i see?
[21:12] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Look'n at the boot-info report, can't put 6 pounds of salt in a 5 pound bag -> the extended partition is too large for that 40 gig hard drive.
[21:12] <kaurubuntu> salve a tutti
[21:12] <eeee> !it | kaurubuntu
[21:13] <TJ-> Bashing-om: It is? Did you do the calculations?
[21:13] <johny12> hi
[21:14] <xMopxShell> is it possible to upgrade a ubuntu container with do-release-upgrade? or does that just break it?
[21:14] <OerHeks> adamcunnington, all custum entries goes to bookmarkt, you need to edit a user-dirs-dirs file >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/450207/how-to-move-downloads-folder-from-bookmarks-to-places
[21:14] <adamcunnington> OerHeks: thanks
[21:14] <OerHeks> have fun
[21:15] <layan911> how to port Metacity Themes to Unity?
[21:16] <Bashing-om> TJ-: BrandonC semi-so .. sda1 is 35 gigs, and the extended partition appears to be slightly larger than 5 gigs.
[21:16] <BrandonC> wont ubuntu do what it must when it installs?
[21:17] <BrandonC> wait, so wheni get the option to choose, update ubuntu, install next to , install over, or something else... if i chooose install over,, its not going to fix partitions?
[21:18] <TJ-> BrandonB: Bashing-om: I did the sector calculations on the fdisk output at line 551 and they all checked out, was trying to figure out the "Partition outside the disk detected" message.
[21:19] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: I would think so .. that the install wizard will freshly set-up and install ubuntu.  ( though might be able at this time to just re-do the extended & swap partition) ..
[21:19] <BrandonC> so make ext3 for 30gb, and swap for 4 gb?
[21:19] <Bashing-om> TJ-: // BrandonC lemme go look again at the poutput where I was figuring ..
[21:20] <BrandonC> i only have gig ddr ram so was told to make swap 4 gig
[21:20] <dypsilon> What FTP server would you recommend for a 14.04. server?
[21:20] <TJ-> Bashing-om: BrandonB Disk declares 78,165,360 sectors; last sector showin is 78,163,967. I've cross-checked the block-lengths against the calculated ending sectors and they are all correct, and I can't see any partitions overlapping each other
[21:22] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I *believe* "Partition outside the disk detected" refers t /dev/sr0 (DVD) when looking at "parted -lm" output at line 489
[21:23] <Bashing-om> TJ-: I too stand corrected -> 4.900390625 GB is the correct size ... humm ...so where is that " Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk! " comming from, is the question. line 503 .
[21:23] <TJ-> BrandonC: What is the symptom of the failure to boot  - I missed that if you described it ?
[21:24] <BrandonC> after post, DISK BOOT FAILURE
[21:24] <BrandonC> pc was on last night and im assuming went to sleep.. could not wake it this morning with mouse or keyboard so hard powered it
[21:24] <BrandonC> then thats what i got when i turned it on
[21:24] <TJ-> BrandonC: That sounds like the system BIOS reporting it... which infers that sector 0 of the hard disk isn't being read.
[21:25] <TJ-> BrandonC: Has the BIOS boot device order changed?
[21:25] <BrandonC> umm.
[21:25] <BrandonC> when?
[21:25] <nishanth> I turn off my computer and turned it ON today, for some reason the display is zoomed in any ideas on how to fix this
[21:25] <BrandonC> byitself?
[21:25] <BrandonC> changed from default?
[21:26] <TJ-> BrandonC: Yes, it is possible :) BIOS NVRAM settings can get corrupted due to a variety of issues. If in doubt I generally reset the BIOS to factory defaults, and then reconfigure any custom settings required.
[21:26] <BrandonC> should i boot gparted to see things?
[21:28] <TJ-> BrandonC: No, we can see the partitioning fine, and as far as it goes, it looks OK. Can you tell us the make/model of the PC?
[21:29] <BrandonC> http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1369&page=9
[21:29] <BrandonC> http://www.cnet.com/products/ati-radeon-9600-pro-agp-8x-256mb/
[21:30] <BrandonC> Athlon 2400+
[21:30] <BrandonC> 1gig ddr
[21:30] <BrandonC> wd400 hd
[21:31] <fidelix> Hello folks. I'm blacklisting my Radeon card (secondary) on modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, but when I reboot my screen freezes after a bunch of error messages.
[21:35] <Bashing-om> fidelix: Hybrid grahocs ? Bios controlable ? what is the primary graphics and what graphics driver is loaded ? .. what release are you running ? - release 14.04 has improved support for hybrid graphics.
[21:36] <nishanth> for some reason my Desktop is magnified , i tried playing with different settings in display option but that did not work....some help?
[21:37] <fidelix> Bashing-om: BIOS controlable. I want to prevent Linux from using the Radeon card (I want to assign it to a Xen virtual machine).
[21:38] <Bashing-om> fidelix: Sorry, VM is out of my sphere of knowledge.
[21:38] <TJ-> BrandonC: Can't find a user manual for that mobo; looks to be quite old though so understandable
[21:39] <fidelix> Bashing-om: that's OK. I just need to be able to boot Linux without using the external graphics card. Can you help me with that?
[21:39] <TJ-> fidelix: which driver is loading for it?
[21:39] <fidelix> I have an integrated intel graphics card, and the video works just fine with it.
[21:40] <TJ-> fidel_: For hybrid graphics I doubt you can separate the GPUs, since they use the same framebuffer
[21:40] <fidelix> TJ-: radeon
[21:40] <Bashing-om> fidelix: to see the card -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga <- and to see the driver info -> sudo lshw -C display < - . What returns.
[21:40] <TJ-> fidelix: Grrr, too many too-alive nicknames tonight! :)
[21:40] <fidelix> TJ-: no hybrid anything. This is a PC. My motherboard has dedicated video output
[21:41] <TJ-> fidelix: Ahhh, OK, which driver is loading despite the blacklist?
[21:41] <fidelix> TJ-: if I blacklist, the system freezes during boot.
[21:41] <fidelix> So the blacklist probably works.
[21:41] <TJ-> fidelix: So Dom0 is grabbing it so you can't do PCI-passthrough?
[21:42] <TJ-> fidelix: Yes, but *which* driver are you blacklisting?
[21:42] <fidelix> TJ-: radeon
[21:42] <fidelix> Let me reboot. I'll try a few modeset params...
[21:43] <TJ-> fidelix: Have you examined dmesg to see if another driver is trying to take control? Or if the PCI bus scanning is somehow half-activating the GPU?
[21:46] <subcool> how do you extract a .bin file? - i just downloaded 1gb of stuff from goolge plus, and it was sent to me as a .bin
[21:47] <subcool> nvm.. i just went to do it again, and nows its offering .zip
[21:47] <subcool> ugh- i have to dl it agian.
[21:49] <nishanth> anyone know how to fix a magnified display issue
[21:50] <ice9> I'm looking for scrum tool, any suggesstion?
[21:51] <nishanth> anyone know how to fix a magnified display issue
[21:52] <k1l_> nishanth: you meant zoomed in?
[21:54] <nishanth> Kil_ well i turned on my computer and the desktop and all the icons are magnified
[21:55] <k1l_> is the driver working correct?
[21:55] <k1l_> *video driver
[21:55] <nishanth> k1l_ well i turned on my computer and the desktop and all the icons are magnified
[21:55] <nishanth> how do i check
[21:55] <nishanth> ?
[21:55] <nishanth> k1l_ how do I check?
[21:57] <fidelix> TJ-: didn't work
[21:57] <k1l_> nishanth: lshw -c video
[21:57] <akurilin> quick question: the ubuntu user on my trusty vm seems to get NOPASSWD sudo for free, it's not actually in sudoers. Where else could that permission be possibly set?
[21:57] <fidelix> TJ-: http://paste2.org/s1H1fexY
[21:59] <TJ-> fidelix: So the radeon driver is loaded despite the blacklist?
[21:59] <sheap> okay so I narrowed down the cause of my preseed woes, it can be summarized in this thread: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2014-May/275626.html
[21:59] <sheap> anyone else know wtf is going on/how to fix that?
[22:00] <fidelix> TJ-: no. If I blacklist radeon, the system freezes.
[22:01] <nishanth> k1l_ http://pastebin.com/6vNNEiqi
[22:01] <nishanth> k1l_ this is the output i got
[22:02] <brontosaurusrex> how would one configure upstart to end in login shell? (also disabling any logos/splashes)
[22:02] <TJ-> fidelix: Can you pastebin the log from the boot attempt that froze? (it may not contain much of use, but that's the only way we're going to get evidence short of booting with a serial/netconsole)
[22:02] <ikonia> end in login shell ?
[22:02] <nishanth> k1l_ u there?
[22:02] <brontosaurusrex> or to launch a login shell instead of login manager
[22:02] <fidelix> TJ-: I took a picture of it. Is that good enough?
[22:03] <brontosaurusrex> ikonia: yes
[22:03] <ikonia> what are you talking launch a login shell ?
[22:03] <ikonia> upstart is just an init system
[22:03] <TJ-> fidelix: That's always our standby yeah :)
[22:03] <k1l_> !text | brontosaurusrex
[22:03] <brontosaurusrex> ikonia: yes, but it starts a login manager at some point no?
[22:04] <ikonia> brontosaurusrex: it will launch X11 display manager
[22:04] <k1l_> nishanth: what about you see the fglrx command center to setup the display settings?
[22:04] <fidelix> TJ-: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/fAb9NQV1GbC1.jpg
[22:04] <brontosaurusrex> ok, brb
[22:05] <BrandonC> okay im making  my new partitions
[22:05] <BrandonC> max size 38166mib
[22:06] <BrandonC> free space preceding?
[22:06] <BrandonC> new size, free space following?
[22:06] <nishanth> k1l_ where do i find this fglrx command center
[22:08] <k1l_> nishanth: sorry, i am not familiar with the amd ones.
[22:08] <BrandonC> partition ext3 or ext4 for primary partition?
[22:08] <k1l_> !fglrx | nishanth
[22:08] <k1l_> BrandonC: ext4
[22:09] <BrandonC> is 30g enough for ubuntu?
[22:09] <TJ-> fidelix: Try "radeon_modeset=0"
[22:09] <k1l_> BrandonC: for / or for the whole ubuntu?
[22:09] <BrandonC> i dont know the difference
[22:09] <BrandonC> i was told with 1 gig of ram to have swap of 4gigs
[22:09] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Barely and for startes, that is the recommended minimum I have seen. ( 30 Gigs)
[22:10] <fidelix> TJ-: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="radeon.modeset=0 radeon.blacklist=1 radeon.nomodeset=0 rd.driver.blacklist=radeon rd.blacklist=radeon quiet splash"
[22:10] <fidelix> Let me try with _ instead of a .
[22:10] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all.  I upgraded my sytem and ny my graphics card won't start.  I've purged nvidia-* and reinstalled various nvidia driver versions to no avail.  I suspect that it is the kernel.  I tried 3.13.30 kernel and it didn't help.  I'd like to try 28 but I don't know how to get it.  How do I install an older kernel/image?
[22:10] <BrandonC> k1l did you mean / as in drive and whole ubuntu is just howmuch ubuntu takes?
[22:10] <k1l_> BrandonC: no. i meant / as / for the system and /home for the user files
[22:11] <k1l_> !partitions
[22:11] <k1l_> BrandonC: see ^
[22:11] <BrandonC> isent ubntuntu up to v14 now?
[22:12] <fidelix> TJ-: BRB
[22:12] <BrandonC> cool
[22:12] <TJ-> fidelix: :D looks like you should have that covered
[22:12] <BrandonC> whats with it asking mb preceding and folloing ?
[22:13] <k1l_> BrandonC: 14.04. but its still the same recommendations
[22:13] <k1l_> the bot gave a link with a beginners explanaition. what about you try to read that for a start
[22:14] <fidelix> TJ-: it worked. Thanks man!
[22:14] <TJ-> fidelix: I think your issue was you had "radeon.nomodeset" which doesn't exist as a parameter for radeon module: If you don't know already, you can check available parameters for dynamically loadable modules with "modinfo <modulename>" e.g. "modinfo radeon"
[22:15] <fidelix> TJ-: that's brilliant. Thanks man
[22:15] <TJ-> fidelix: Good luck with Xen :)
[22:18] <JokesOnYou77> How do I install an older kernel/image?
[22:18] <Olimpiata> sd
[22:19] <dominik> f
[22:21] <Ool> JokesOnYou77: do you remove the old one after upgrading ? if not,  you may choose other kernel in grub menu
[22:21] <BrandonC> so i can only have 4 primary partitions, but i can make 1 of those 4 an exxtended partition allowing me to make many more logical partitions?
[22:22] <BrandonC> andi can only have 1 extended partition per drive.. so 1-3 primary partition, 4 is extended and that extended can have many logical partitions?
[22:23] <zykotick9> BrandonC: sidenote, the 4 primary only applies to msdos partitions, gpt you can have as many primary as you want
[22:23] <BrandonC> gpt?
[22:24] <daftykins> GPT = new, UEFI bootable partition table
[22:24] <BrandonC> ah kk
[22:24] <Ool> BrandonC: you can make one primary and an extended with how many logical partitions you want
[22:24] <daftykins> BrandonC: how many do you really need :P
[22:24] <BrandonC> just making sure i understand
[22:24] <zykotick9> daftykins: actually gpt has nothing to do with uefi (i've used gpt but don't have any uefi systems)  BrandonC
[22:25] <Ool> gpt is for larger partitions no ?
[22:25] <daftykins> zykotick9: it does in the sense that single-disks of ~2.7TB+ have to be GPT when a single partition is used, with Windows... when it comes to Linux though i don't know if there are partition limits
[22:25] <zykotick9> Ool: well, it does support 3TB+ so, sorta ;)
[22:31] <BrandonC> so i read thru that bot link and dont see where says how much mib to put before or after partition, i see something aoubt if you have large disk you need to put in the first 1024 cylinders or something
[22:32] <BrandonC> again i still dont understand why ubuntu install disk wont do this
[22:32] <BrandonC> and is deleting all partitions a way of formating?
[22:36] <jamesbrown> how can i fix this?
[22:36] <jamesbrown> http://pastebin.com/0y0vhGAN
[22:38] <daftykins> jamesbrown: where's the index from?
[22:42] <zerick> Anybody knows what tool/client Ubuntu members use in order yo stay connected always?
[22:42] <jamesbrown> daftykins in project/test
[22:42] <beanee> hey how do i remove java 8 ubnutu
[22:42] <daftykins> jamesbrown: i don't know what you mean
[22:42] <daftykins> beanee: from webupd8?
[22:43] <beanee> just the whole java thing actually
[22:43] <daftykins> beanee: well did you install Oracle's java or is this on a clean install?
[22:43] <beanee> Oracle's
[22:44] <beanee> dafykins: Oracle's
[22:45] <daftykins> beanee: so installed via the webupd8 repo then
[22:45] <beanee> i donno what weupd8 is
[22:45] <daftykins> beanee: did you follow a guide online of how to get it installed to begin with?
[22:45] <beanee> yes
[22:45] <beanee> i did
[22:46] <daftykins> beanee: that's third party then, from the webupd8 team, so you'd have to consult their site for how to remove - pretty sure it's along the lines of a package called oracle-java8-installer - confirm with "dpkg -l | grep oracle"
[22:46] <beanee> rogger that
[22:47] <beanee> ran the command, nothing showed up
[22:47] <daftykins> that's odd
[22:47] <beanee> let me google some more and come back to you daftykins
[22:50] <jamesbrown> daftykins i am telling u which folder the index.php file is
[22:50] <daftykins> jamesbrown: i'm asking where it's from
[22:50] <Aki-Thinkpad> Where is the qtcreator-src && qtcreator-build found in ubuntu?
[22:51] <Aki-Thinkpad> or do I have to build it from src?
[22:51] <jamesbrown> daftykins that dont make sense
[22:51] <daftykins> Aki-Thinkpad: apt-cache search <thing to search for>
[22:51] <Aki-Thinkpad> daftykins, i'll try that
[22:52] <daftykins> Aki-Thinkpad: you'll need an up to date package list to start with, so "apt-get update" naturally
[22:52] <Aki-Thinkpad> daftykins, yah nothign is returning
[22:52] <daftykins> can't say i've ever heard of them to know further i'm afraid
[22:53] <Aki-Thinkpad> :/
[22:53] <daftykins> Aki-Thinkpad: if they're the exact binary names, try "which <name>"
[22:54] <Aki-Thinkpad> daftykins,
[22:54] <Aki-Thinkpad> i'll try
[22:54] <Aki-Thinkpad> thanks
[22:54] <beanee> java -version
[22:54] <beanee> java version "1.8.0_11"
[22:54] <beanee> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_11-b12)
[22:54] <beanee> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 25.11-b03, mixed mode)
[22:55] <beanee> daftykins ^^^
[22:55] <entreri> hello, how to install the new kde5 ?
[22:55] <daftykins> beanee: i suppose the other one to try is "dpkg -l | grep java"
[22:55] <TJ-> Aki-Thinkpad: "apt-get source qtcreator"
[22:55] <Spec> Aki-Thinkpad: are you looking for the source code of qtcreator?
[22:56] <Spec> what TJ- said
[22:56] <Aki-Thinkpad> yah
[22:56] <beanee> ii  ca-certificates-java                                  20130815ubuntu1                                     all          Common CA certificates (JKS keystore)
[22:56] <beanee> ii  gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-3.0                          2.4.3-1ubuntu2                                      i386         JavaScript engine library from WebKitGTK+ - GObject introspection data
[22:56] <beanee> ii  java-common                                           0.51                                                all          Base of all Java packages
[22:56] <beanee> ii  libatk-wrapper-java                                   0.30.4-4                                            all          ATK implementation for Java using JNI
[22:56] <jamesbrown> daftykins :( help
[22:56]  * daftykins waves to Spec
[22:56] <Spec> :D
[22:56] <beanee> ii  libatk-wrapper-java-jni:i386                          0.30.4-4                                            i386         ATK implementation for Java using JNI (JNI bindings)
[22:56] <beanee> ii  libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0:i386                       2.4.3-1ubuntu2                                      i386         JavaScript engine library from WebKitGTK+
[22:56] <Aki-Thinkpad> http://doc.qt.digia.com/qtcreator-extending/first-plugin.html
[22:56] <Spec> beanee: please use pastebin :(
[22:56] <beanee> ii  tzdata-java                                           2014e-0ubuntu0.14.04                                all          time zone and daylight-saving time data for use by java runtimes
[22:56] <beanee> oh sorry
[22:56] <Aki-Thinkpad> !pastebin
[22:56] <beanee> we are use to spam this shit on efnet
[22:57] <Aki-Thinkpad> !language
[22:57] <daftykins> careful on the language too please
[22:57] <beanee> oh
[22:57] <Aki-Thinkpad> ;)
[22:57] <beanee> ofc
[22:57] <beanee> :)
[22:57] <daftykins> jamesbrown: i was asking what the web application was, what is the index.php from?
[22:57] <Aki-Thinkpad> if you need to be naughty, you can use faces like this >:)
[22:57] <jamesbrown> daftykins it my website home page
[22:57] <TJ-> jamesbrown: You've probably not set the permissions of the PHP folder/files to something the web-server can read
[22:58] <entreri> hello, how to install the new kde5 ?
[22:58] <beanee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7838962/
[22:58] <Spec> Aki-Thinkpad: is fine to keep them undefined, "If these are not defined, it uses the defaults you set in the project wizard."
[22:58] <Spec> Aki-Thinkpad: it's referring to the source code of qtcreator and the build directory
[22:58] <Aki-Thinkpad> Spec, it doesnt let me continue though,