[01:31] <calc> Guest65975: well the part saying that the files lists are missing is what the problem is i think
[01:31] <calc> Guest65975: but i am not sure why the files list would be missing
[01:31] <davi_> Is there an Ubuntu netinstall iso download?
[01:31] <Guest65975> Well, originally they were there. The only files missing were libtotem with respect to libecal
[01:31] <calc> Guest65975: eg "dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `libtotem-plparser12'"
[01:31] <Guest41991> mattgyver83: can you help me?
[01:32] <Guest65975> So I moved the files to make them hidden (hoping that would solve the problem)
[01:32] <calc> Guest65975: moved which files?
[01:32] <Guest65975> I can easily revert those changes.
[01:32] <bLk-LaBeL> davi, yes its on the web page, i once did a net install coz only cd 1 was working
[01:32] <martinkoelewijn> BlackCoffee: the path of the py file is not what you need to refer to, just execi 1800 conkyForecast will do, that refers to the proper line. but check http://www.kaivalagi.com/node/2 this. I'm going to bed now. Have fun with conky; I like.
[01:32] <cchaos> Ok so wheres it dumped that?
[01:32] <bLk-LaBeL> but that was redhat
[01:32] <Guest65975> libsnmp-base, libsnmp15, and libecall.2-7
[01:32] <grzybowski> Hi. I am putting some life into pam-pgsql (a postgreql module for pam). I would like to know if there is any mainteiner that would like to maintain this package for fedora or test it.
[01:32] <davi_> bLk-LaBeL, I need a very small iso image to burn in my mine CD
[01:33] <martinkoelewijn> BlackCoffee: either do execi 1800 conkyForecast or do execi 1800 python /path/to/conkyforecast.py
[01:33] <Guest65975> Originally libetotem-plparser12 was the conflict file (with respect to libecall)
[01:33] <grzybowski> ooops, for ubuntu :)
[01:33] <calc> Guest65975: what dir and what were the exact names of the files you moved?
[01:33] <Guest65975> Same names prepended by a period
[01:33] <Guest65975> Same directories
[01:33] <BlackCoffee> martinkoelewijn: that's what i was about to do
[01:33] <martinkoelewijn> BlackCoffee: check the capitals, again, sigh
[01:33] <calc> Guest65975: the ones under /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[01:34] <Guest65975> I can change those back and show you the output file (same error, minus those three file alerts)
[01:34] <BlackCoffee> martinkoelewijn: go to sleep already man,and thanks a lot dude
[01:34] <calc> Guest65975: or something under /var/lib/dpkg/info/ ?
[01:34] <rww> grzybowski: Ubuntu syncs it from Debian's repositories, so 1) the MOTU team in #ubuntu-motu is responsible for it in Ubuntu, 2) you might want to find a Debian maintainer instead.
[01:34] <calc> Guest65975: btw never mess with the files in /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[01:34] <calc> Guest65975: well unless you know exactly what you are doing
[01:34] <martinkoelewijn> BlackCoffee: cheers, I'll dream of you
[01:34] <BlackCoffee> LOL
[01:34] <Guest65975> Well, calc. The problem was those files were corrupted.
[01:35] <grzybowski> rww: ok, thanks
[01:35] <calc> Guest65975: which dir did you move files from?
[01:35] <^Ocean^> Do i need LVM for Hardware raid setups?
[01:35] <cchaos> Just installed gparted and I cant find an icon or it
[01:35] <Guest65975> It originally have me a "newline" error and I checked the libtotem file and it was incomplete -- cut off
[01:35] <ryanprior> cchaos: it's in System -> Administration and it's called Partition Editor. Go figure. =P
[01:35] <Guest65975> The files are in the same directories, just renamed from file to .file
[01:35] <calc> messing with files under /var/lib/dpkg/info/ can put your system into a state where you essentially will need to reinstall from scratch
[01:35] <Guest65975> I can revert those changes and show you the updated log
[01:35] <calc> Guest65975: you never said which 'same directories' you are talking about
[01:36] <ryanprior> !enter | Guest65975
[01:36] <Guest65975> */info
[01:36] <cchaos> ryanprior: sorry I forgot what it was called. Found it
[01:36] <Guest65975> dpkg/info
[01:36] <calc> Guest65975: it may be that your system got corrupted somehow... but yes you should move those files back the way they were
[01:36] <Guest65975> Alright, let me generate an updated log.
[01:36] <nyggabeeter> fuk
[01:36] <Guest65975> Thanks for your patience.
[01:37] <LYNCHANYGGER> hello
[01:37] <LYNCHANYGGER> i need help
[01:37] <calc> Guest65975: depending on if you did anything else you may need to just reinstall... NEVER mess with /var/lib/dpkg/info unless you actually know what you are doing... in other words you know how to package debian packages at minimum :)
[01:37] <LYNCHANYGGER> there are niggers in my yard
[01:37] <btube> :ooo
[01:37] <bLk-LaBeL> is there an audio help channel for ubuntu?
[01:38]  * BlackCoffee thanks Odin for search/replace
[01:38] <calc> Guest65975: messing in /var/lib/dpkg/info is nearly as bad as running the rm command with bad args (i think it is autoban so i can't actually say it)
[01:38] <ryanprior> bLk-LaBeL: This is the the best and only help channel. Ask away. =D
[01:38] <Guest41991> i been asking
[01:38] <Guest41991> is it because i'm a guest?
[01:39] <bLk-LaBeL> I cant get audio out of hdmi any ideas?
[01:39] <EMKO1> is this madwifi the same thing as ath5k ?
[01:39] <ryanprior> bLk-LaBeL: Of course, if you need help with ALSA, you can ask in #alsa and so on.
[01:39] <bLk-LaBeL> thank you
[01:41] <itai_> can anyone point me to aguide on how to dualboot xp and ubuntu using windows bootloader ?
[01:42] <hajmola> I downloaded a GTK 2.x theme from gnome-look.org, but in appearances it says "correctly installed" but it doesn't show up in the list
[01:43] <itai_> hajmola, maybe it shows in the customise section
[01:44] <hajmola> itai_, you're right. why doesn't it just show up as a thumbnail
[01:44] <itai_> hajmola, i dont understand gtk ...sorry
[01:45] <hajmola> itai_ thanks anyways
[01:45] <Guest65975> calc: I reverted back to my original error. The output to apt-get autoremove is: http://pastebin.com/d6aba0eb3
[01:45] <Guest65975> Erm, actually, that's the output to dpkg -i libecal
[01:46] <itai_> hajmola, in gnome-org there are many components ,some are shown in themes some in the customise.
[01:47] <Davide-buntu> Hey Guys I'm confused could someone help me mount a second HD?
[01:47] <Davide-buntu> in fstab
[01:48] <itai_> Davide-buntu, did you look in psychocats- there's an excellent tutorial
[01:48] <calc> Guest65975: try purging libtotem-plparser12
[01:48] <calc> Guest65975: then reinstall
[01:48] <calc> Guest65975: er then reinstall libtotem-plparser12
[01:48] <netsurf3> Davide-buntu: what fs is the second hdd?
[01:48] <Guest65975> Will do -- thank you kindly for the suggestion
[01:48] <calc> Guest65975: somehow libtotem-plparser12 package got corrupted after being installed
[01:48] <Davide-buntu> itai_, what's psychocats?
[01:48] <calc> Guest65975: you aren't using ext4 or something similar to that are you?
[01:49] <Davide-buntu> netsurf3, its ext3 is that what you're asking?
[01:49] <netsurf3> your second hdd is ext3?
[01:49] <itai_> Davide-buntu, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[01:49] <Guest65975> Davide-buntu: Just mount /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb1 or /dev/hda1 or /dev/hdb1 to a dir in media, if you wish
[01:49] <Guest65975>  /media, that is
[01:49] <^Ocean^> Any one know how to get a Hardware Raid stripe working under ubuntu,  All the info i can find is years out of date and dont make any sense,  I have a raid stripe drive i would like to access, linux see's it as 2 hard drives not one
[01:50] <mattgyver83> guest41991, you still there?
[01:50] <codebliss> Is there any way to customize different workspaces?
[01:50] <itai_> Davide-buntu, if you want to understand what you are doing - read the psychocat tutorial ,mount windows or mount linux (depends on what file system you are mounting)
[01:50] <codebliss> Say, have workspace 2's desktop be based on another folder.
[01:50] <codebliss> Or none at all.
[01:50] <Davide-buntu> well here's what I've done:  I've created a directory /media/storage, then in fstab I've added: /dev/sdb1 /media/storage
[01:50] <Shadow121> Hey guys, how do i remove a recently installed .tar file??
[01:50] <teclado> hi!
[01:51] <calc> Shadow121: installed .tar file?
[01:51] <Guest65975> Davide-buntu: mount?
[01:51] <calc> Shadow121: you don't install tar files you just extract them
[01:51] <EMKO1> can someone please help get this ath5k installed
[01:51] <calc> Shadow121: so no way to uninstall them easily at least
[01:51] <Shadow121> Do i remove the files manually?
[01:51] <calc> Shadow121: you could conceivably get the file list from the tar file and remove all of those files
[01:51] <Guest65975> calc: Sorry for being ignorant, but how would I'purge' the file libtotem*?
[01:51] <calc> Shadow121: but if that tar file overwrote any files you won't know whether to remove them or not
[01:51] <itai_> Shadow121, sometimes it creates an auninstall file
[01:51] <teclado> sudo aptitude remove 'filename' ?'
[01:52] <calc> Guest65975: dpkg --purge --force-depends blah
[01:52] <Guest65975> Ah, wonderful. Thank you kindly
[01:52] <teclado> it's right?
[01:52] <calc> Guest65975: that will potentially leave the system in a incomplete state so you should try reinstalling the package immediately afterwards
[01:52] <Davide-buntu> Guest65975, well I hadn't put mount cause I was copying what the other partitions looked like... it doesnt say mount for them...
[01:52] <Davide-buntu> Guest65975, :D
[01:52] <Shadow121> calc: how can i make sure i got all the files?
[01:52] <calc> Guest65975: dpkg --purge --force-depends will remove it regardless of if anything depends on it
[01:53] <Guest65975> Bah ha ha, the purge failed due to empty filename of libtotem-plparser2
[01:53] <calc> Shadow121: you can easily remove all files that are in the tar, but not necessarily know if you should remove them all (if the files are still needed) by just doing tar -t foo.tar | xargs rm
[01:54] <Yono> Hey guys, I'm trying to use Hulu.com for the first time on linux, it says I need Flash Player 9 or above, but I have the latest version (<IP_ADDRESS>-2) installed. Any suggestions?
[01:54] <donavan01> im using a custom build but I dont know which version its based off of can someone tell me how to find out
[01:54] <calc> Guest65975: make a backup of the file temporarily then try to fix the empty line and then do it again
[01:54] <Shadow121> calc: What if i no longer have the original .tar file?
[01:54] <behappy> sebsebseb: how do I disable beep song in ubuntu ??
[01:54] <calc> Shadow121: no way to know... its equivalent to on windows extracting a zip file randomly somewhere and expecting to know what to remove later
[01:55] <calc> Shadow121: a tar file is not a package in any sense, its just a (t)ape (ar)chive
[01:55] <Guest65975> That's what I attempted to do initially -- but the file is incomplete.
[01:55] <mattgyver83> does anyone know how i can make an adhoc connection using the bcm43xx drivers?  Wifi works, but i cant connect adhoc.
[01:55] <Guest65975> I don't think it's a newline problem.
[01:55] <calc> Shadow121: its the unix version of zip without compression, compression is handled separatley by gzip/bzip2/lzma
[01:55] <Shadow121> calc: So i should basically try to delete the files myself?  Like the stuff in usr/lib and usr/bin?
[01:56] <calc> Guest65975: well if you make the file just short but valid it should let you remove the package and then reinstalling will overwrite anything left on the system from the package
[01:56] <calc> Shadow121: yea
[01:56] <bLk-LaBeL> anyone know why ubuntu doesn't come with audio settings that detect HDMI ??
[01:56] <calc> Shadow121: and installing stuff into /usr with tar files is not a good idea
[01:57] <calc> Shadow121: so you probably should try not to do it in the future
[01:57] <Guest65975> I'll give that a try -- thanks
[01:57] <behappy> how do I disable beep song in ubuntu ??
[01:57] <calc> Shadow121: it could end up overwriting important files and mess up your system
[01:57] <Shadow121> calc: but when i do a "make install" thats where is goes.
[01:57] <calc> behappy: system->preferences->sound->sounds
[01:57] <bLk-LaBeL> behappy, if you use HDMI you disable all sound alltogether
[01:57] <calc> Shadow121: tell configure to use /usr/local are prefix
[01:58] <calc> Shadow121: s/are/as/
[01:58] <sebsebseb> behappy: no idea
[01:58] <calc> Shadow121: and yes doing make install into /usr is also a very bad idea
[01:58] <sebsebseb> behappy: and maybe you should ask your questions to whole channel, rather than directly to someone
[01:58] <calc> Shadow121: the only places non packaged files should go are into /opt of /usr/locla
[01:58] <spaceBARbarian> is there supposed to be a .wgetrc file by default ?
[01:58] <calc> er /usr/local
[01:59] <Shadow121> calc: I do make install while the file is on the desktop
[01:59]  * bLk-LaBeL wonders if anyone is using sound via HDMI
 : thank you sebsebseb   system->preferences->sound->sounds
[01:59] <sebsebseb> behappy: no idea  I put, well I would have tried what  calc suggested
[02:00] <ULFfuntu> <zztop gh
[02:00] <Shadow121> calc:  How do i order the make install to install the files in a directory of my choice?
[02:01] <calc> Shadow121: does the program you are running make install for have configure also?
I'm sorry to have caused you some inconvenience
[02:01] <Shadow121> calc:  It has a configure as well.
[02:01] <calc> Shadow121: if so you tell it configure --prefix=/blah then make install knows to put it where you want it
[02:01] <sebsebseb> behappy: no it's fine
[02:01] <calc> Shadow121: which is what i already told you ~ 10m ago
[02:01] <calc> 19:57 < calc> Shadow121: tell configure to use /usr/local are prefix
[02:01] <sebsebseb> behappy: also you should learn to autocomplete properly, type  first letters of someones name and press tab
[02:01] <calc> hmm well 5min ago :)
[02:02] <Shadow121> calc:  Can you give me an example of sending it to say your home folder
[02:02] <cool_nick12> hi, does anyone here know how to mount the new HFS+ compressed images in ubuntu?
[02:02] <calc> Shadow121: you can also use DESTDIR=blah make install if you want to install into a completely different area from what you told it for prefix (its used for packaging)
[02:03] <calc> Shadow121: configure --prefix=/home/whateveryourhomediris/somedir
[02:03] <ryanprior> cool_nick12: Read the HFS+ documentation. Doing it on Ubuntu is probably the same as doing it on any other UNIX-like system.
[02:03] <cool_nick12> ryanprior: ok thanks
[02:03] <Shadow121> calc:  Ohhhh ok.  Thanks alot!!!
[02:03] <calc> Shadow121: np
[02:03] <FoxBlitzz> Any way to fix uneven letter spacing in printed pages in Firefox?
[02:04] <FoxBlitzz> The bad spacing also shows up in the print preview...
[02:04] <Yono> Hey guys, I'm trying to use Hulu.com for the first time on linux, it says I need Flash Player 9 or above, but I have the latest version (<IP_ADDRESS>-2) installed. Any suggestions?
[02:04] <FoxBlitzz> But when viewing the page normally, it all looks fine
[02:05] <bluejeans> yono, install flash from the mozilla firefox addons
[02:05] <Yono> it's already there bluejeans
[02:05] <Roanoke> Hello all.
[02:05] <Davide-buntu> ok mounted, now another question how do I mount a network location? more precisely a shared HD on my other windows computer?
[02:05] <Kangarooo> i looked in BAOBAB (Disk Usage Analyzer) that 161.2 MB is used by Gnome Help its located  /usr/share/gnome/help     i want to remove it but synaptic also wants to remove with it Ubuntu-Desktop. WTF? i cant remove Help? maybe ill put it on lauchpad Wishlist>?
[02:05] <Roanoke> Anyone know a good chart-making application?
[02:06] <bruenig> Roanoke: dia
[02:06] <Kangarooo> dia
[02:06] <Roanoke> bruenig, Kangarooo: chart as in, pie chart
[02:06] <bluejeans> Yono, does flash work on other sites.. youtube?
[02:06] <bruenig> um
[02:06] <Davide-buntu> I'm trying mount //locationpath /media/windows ntfs-3g  but it doesnt seem to work?
[02:07] <joljam> how can I change the default player for streaming videos to vlc
[02:07] <aeonoris> I'm trying to set up a Eucalyptus server.  According to this - http://eucalyptus.cs.ucsb.edu/wiki/EucalyptusPrerequisites_v1.4 - I need to run a server that can deliver or relay email messages to email addresses.  I tried a few different things that I *think* fit the bill, but I can't actually get any of them to work how I think is needed.  Any suggestions?
[02:08] <lubosz> hi, i have to push 2 times my "^" key to get a ^. how can i reduce this to 1?
[02:08] <Kangarooo> Roanoke: www.piechart.com
 :I have enough  knowledge about shell because I have server I manage it from SSH
[02:08] <Roanoke> Kangarooo: That link is broken.
[02:08] <sebsebseb> behappy: I didn't say anything about the shell
[02:09] <mike3292> How can I test my speakers? There are a lot of devices to choose from under Volume Control and a lot more options in preferences and I want to do it the fastest way possible. I'm not sure if my sound will even work either.
[02:09] <Roanoke> Kangarooo: And I was hoping for a bit more flexibility than just pie charts.
[02:09] <sebsebseb> behappy: I told you how to autocomplete names here properly, because your putting < and >
[02:09] <Kangarooo> Roanoke: ups www,piecolor.com and maybe in Open Office also? Yeah there should be chart maker
[02:09] <ULFfuntu> mike3292: from the cmd line try : speaker-test
[02:10] <Roanoke> Kangarooo: OK, I guess open office is the best.
[02:10] <Roanoke> Thanks.
[02:10] <Kangarooo> Roanoke: also google docs
[02:10] <ULFfuntu> speaker-test -test sine
[02:10] <Guest65975> mike3292: If that doesn't work check your alsa conf
[02:10] <Kangarooo> docs.google.com
[02:10] <behappy> sebastien, :wooooooow great I think that you talked about shell
[02:11] <sebsebseb> Roanoke: you can  probably find something in synapic and these sites will probably help you find something http://www.osalt.com http://www.linuxeq.com
[02:11] <behappy> sebastien, thank you
[02:11] <mike3292> ULFfuntu: the second code you gave me output speaker-test 1.0.17, Invalid test type est.
[02:11] <mike3292> Guest65975: how can I check my alsa conf
[02:11] <behappy> sebastien, : I am sorry because I am a new in IRC world
[02:11] <Guest65975> alsa-conf
[02:12] <FoxBlitzz> Nobody here has ever experienced uneven letter spacing in printing web pages?
[02:12] <ULFfuntu> yeah maybe try speaker-test --help and go with that
[02:12] <Roanoke> sebsebseb: Synaptic returns an avalanche upon doing apt-cache search chart (most of which are unrelated) and those sites require knowledge of a similar windows app. I'll just go with open office, thanks though.
[02:12] <PenguinOfDoom> How can I add a dummy network connection to network-manager? I want to get the VPN menu enabled even when there's no wireless or ethernet link
[02:12] <mike3292> Guest65975: command not found
[02:12] <Kangarooo> why if i want to remove Gnome-Help also Ubuntu-Desktop needs to be removeD?
[02:13] <ULFfuntu> mike3292: ok.. is alsa-base installed?
[02:13] <sebsebseb> behappy: using  someones name properly  means  the text goes red, and the client notifies them of the message
[02:13] <Lint01> what's in linux-headers package, and can it be safely removed?
[02:13] <sebsebseb> Roanoke: maybe Sribus it's a desktop publishing app
[02:13] <Guest65975> alsamixer?
[02:13] <mike3292> ULFuntu: I'm not sure.
[02:13] <Guest65975> type alsa then tab it
[02:13] <Guest65975> tab tab tab
[02:13] <sebsebseb> Roanoke: that is  Scribus
[02:13] <ULFfuntu> t
[02:13] <ULFfuntu> aptitude search alsa
[02:14] <ULFfuntu> and look for the i
[02:14] <Yono> bluejeans, yes flash works elsewhere
[02:14] <mike3292> Guest65975: alsa       alsactl    alsamixer
[02:14] <usser> Lint01, header files for linux kernel, if you're not planning on compiling against linux kernel or manually updating your graphics drivers it can be removed
[02:14] <Kangarooo> PenguinOfDoom: maybe just add one LAN and evven if its not pluged in it will solve prblem?
[02:14] <sebsebseb> behappy: see my PM
[02:14] <ULFfuntu> startitng in front of alsa-base
[02:15] <abama> run ubuntu in vmware, how to enlarge the size of /dev/sda1?
[02:15] <PenguinOfDoom> Kangarooo: Nope, has to be up and active :(
[02:16] <{bosco}> idk
[02:16] <ULFfuntu> abama: linux guest / xp host or what?
[02:16] <Kangarooo> PenguinOfDoom: for apache?
[02:16] <cdm10> Does anyone use Google Calendar through Evolution? I'm having issues with it, and would like to see if anyone else has it working.
[02:16] <nn123645> I'm trying to install ubuntu and seem to have a problem with the installer, I can't get past the inital loading animation after I select install from the menu on the CD
[02:16] <inx-live> hello
[02:16] <seige232> quick question for you all... I have a non-persistent Virtual Machine running under VMWare Infrastructure. The Virtual machine completely crashed, and as a result, I lost all of the data I had overlayed upon the HD image. After running forensics on the drive, I determined that the redo-files are either overwritten, or are simply not detectable under my windows recovery software. Here is the question... under linux, natively, is there a pro
[02:16] <abama> ULFfuntu: xp host
[02:16] <PenguinOfDoom> Kangarooo: huh what huh apache?
[02:17] <ULFfuntu> abama: hi ok I know that there are cmd-line tools online for doing that
[02:17] <ULFfuntu> and google will help with that... i have done that a while back with linux gues /xp host
[02:17] <marcus_> hello there
[02:18] <nn123645> any ideas as to how I should go about trying to fix that?
[02:18] <tj83> nn123645, alternate install cd?
[02:18] <ryanprior> nn123645: What CD are you using?
[02:18] <nn123645> main install CD
[02:18] <nn123645> downloading alternate CD now
[02:18] <ryanprior> nn123645: For which distro?
[02:18] <abama> ULFfuntu: but search what keyword for that?
[02:19] <keystr0k> any suggestions on a Picasa-like program? I don't really care for F-Spot... I like Picasa, but I don't like that it uses Wine to run.
[02:19] <nn123645> ubuntu 8.10
[02:19] <ULFfuntu> hold on brb
[02:19] <seige232> did anyone catch my comment above?
[02:19] <nn123645> desktop
[02:19] <ryanprior> keystr0k: gThumb is decent.
[02:19] <keystr0k> ryanprior, cool. I'll check that out!
[02:19] <Marcus_arg> has anyone use ubuntu rescue remix to recover data from a ntfs partition?
[02:19] <ryanprior> keystr0k: Also, you can just use the terminal and imagemagick if you aren't a GUI addict.
[02:19] <tj83> nn123645, run check on the disk also. burn slow, all else fails use alternate..... the live cd doesnt work for me with my Geforce 9500GT but does with onboard video.
[02:19] <Kangarooo> !help : seige
[02:19] <badfish69> Active Triggers: !quote !addquote !duke !nukem !handey !homsar
[02:19] <keystr0k> ryanprior, yeah! I LOVE imagemagick. so handy!
[02:19] <Kangarooo> eeem seige232 just ask again :)
[02:20] <Roanoke> !apache | PenguinOfDoom
[02:20] <lubosz> i have to push 2 times my "^" key to get a ^. how can i reduce this to 1?
[02:20] <nn123645> Okay, the system I'm trying to install it on has a ATI Radeon 3850 HD
[02:21] <tj83> nn123645, just saying that hardware can be funny sometimes on the live cd. rare cases
[02:21] <Marcus_arg> exit
[02:21] <nn123645> safe graphics mode didn't seem to help any either
[02:21] <nn123645> nor did text mode on the live cd
[02:21] <tj83> nn123645, run memory would be something on my list of troubleshooting
[02:22] <ULFfuntu> abama: "How to Increase your VMware Hard Disk" by Joe Harmon.... Novell site
[02:22] <Kangarooo> PenguinOfDoom: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient#Installing%20and%20managing%20a%20VPN%20connection
[02:22] <ULFfuntu> I saved a pdf of the page
[02:22] <r2r4> hello. linux can insmod a module when needed, what do i need to do ?
[02:23] <usser> r2r4, sudo modprobe modulename
[02:23] <nn123645> tj83: k, thanks, will do that now
[02:23] <Kangarooo> PenguinOfDoom: you need that for Windows? That VPN?
[02:23] <seige232> here we go... large explaination incoming...
[02:24] <seige232> Well, I ran into an issue with my VMWare Infrastructure... I have a non-persistent virtual machine that I depend on. It crashed, and the overlay file (redo-file) was deleted. I ran 4 hours worth of Data Forensics on the containing physical Hard Disk, and determined that the files are nolonger existent, or simply could not be detected under windows. The Partition of the drive in question is formatted under the EXT3 format. I was simply wond
[02:24] <henry1> I feel realy stupid  I was trying to try out slackware from scratch and I had already put on ubuntu with grub and slack uses lilo when I am in slack instal disk f disk cannot write the new partiions
[02:24] <r2r4> usser, thank u ! i mean, when it's needed, it's insmoded automatic, without a command excuted by me
[02:24] <warcaptain> hey
[02:24] <seige232> any thoughts, anyone?
[02:25] <warcaptain> I was just playing with options on Transmission and I turned on Web Interface.. the GUI disappeared and now I can not turn it back on =( HELP!
[02:25] <n8wood> nyone know how to disable GNOME's automount. when I plug in my iphone to change I get "unable to mount apple, inc. iphone, error initializing camera, could not lock device"?
[02:25] <ryanprior> seige232: restore from backup
[02:25] <PenguinOfDoom> Kangarooo: No, I'm tethering an iPhone via USB
[02:25] <ULFfuntu> seige232: hi, you have no backup right?.... :(
[02:25] <ButLite> hey all
[02:25] <henry1> how do I get fdisk to work
[02:25] <Davide-buntu> hey how do you mount a windows network location??
[02:25] <ButLite> sudo fdisk
[02:25] <usser> r2r4, hm i wouldnt know about that sorry. as far as i know its either modprobed on startup or manually
[02:25] <seige232> That is the thing...the VM crashed before I could produce any backups
[02:25] <Guest65975> henry1: fdisk /dev/devname
[02:25] <r2r4> ok, thank u uss
[02:25] <ULFfuntu> Davide-buntu: smbclient smbfs installed
[02:25] <Kangarooo> PenguinOfDoom: im not gonna be help about so advance thing :)
[02:26] <r2r4> ok, thank u usser
[02:26] <itai_> Davide-buntu, smb?
[02:26] <warcaptain> anyone? :\
[02:26] <tj83> Davide-buntu, normally just navigate to smb://address in nautilus
[02:26] <ButLite> warcaptain, what?
[02:26] <Guest65975> seige232: Are you running VMware from windows -> ubununtu or ubuntu -> VMing windows
[02:26] <henry1> it tells me before I get into the device that I cannot write a patition table
[02:26] <ULFfuntu> then smb://webshare/share
[02:26] <dmg> calc: thanks for your help .. I tracked the bug down and mailed the patch off to the mplayer guys.
[02:26] <itai_> Davide-buntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[02:26] <Davide-buntu> yeah but I want to permanently mount it on my desktop
[02:26] <seige232> My VMI runs under linux
[02:26] <warcaptain> I was just playing with options on Transmission and I turned on Web Interface.. the GUI disappeared and now I can not turn it back on =( HELP!
[02:26] <ryanprior> warcaptain: Transmission is a pretty lackluster torrent client. I suggest using Deluge and forgetting it.
[02:26] <balleyne> Davide-buntu: smbmount
[02:26] <henry1> its like the partition is protected
[02:26] <warcaptain> ryanprior: fine, but transmission is downloading a file now and I want to see it
[02:26] <seige232> The Virtual Machine guest operating system is Windows, but that is irrelevant
[02:26] <Davide-buntu> sudo mount //none-xvlc1hi3pv/ /media/none ntfs-3g
[02:27] <Davide-buntu> is what I was using
[02:27] <warcaptain> I need to get it running right again x_x
[02:27] <BudLite> terminal
[02:27] <BudLite> transmission
[02:27] <tj83> Davide-buntu, not sure .... try putting it into fstab?
[02:27] <balleyne> Davide-buntu: yeah, definitely not ntfs-3g, try smbmount
[02:27] <warcaptain> it says open_listening_port(9091): Address already in use
[02:27] <warcaptain> cannot open port 9091
[02:27] <itai_> Davide-buntu, read the link I gave you -has detailed instructions
[02:27] <seige232> The Physical Drive in question is EXT3 formatted, and encrypted
[02:27] <usser> Davide-buntu, smbmount is deprecated try mount -t cifs
[02:27] <Davide-buntu> itai_,  ok checking it out
[02:28] <Guest65975> seige232: I highly doubt zeros were written to the disk
[02:28] <ULFfuntu> Davide-buntu: mount -t cifs -o credentials=/root/.smbpass //webshare/share /mnt/MEGADEATH
[02:28] <usser> Davide-buntu, you need smbfs package for that
[02:28] <Guest65975> Or F's
[02:28] <Guest65975> So I'm sure you can get the data back
[02:28] <n8wood> is there a way to disable certain devices from automounting in GNOME?
[02:28] <ULFfuntu> but you have to set up your credentials for a windows domain
[02:28] <seige232> Guest65975: I hope not, lol
[02:28] <Guest65975> n8wood: Not really a gnome problem
[02:28] <henry1> I have ubuntu loaded   I am trying to install slakeware  and I can not get fdisk to write a new table
[02:29] <Davide-buntu> ULFfuntu, I dont understand that how would you write it with my locations?  sudo mount //none-xvlc1hi3pv/ /media/none
[02:29] <Guest65975> henry1: What disk are you using?
[02:29] <Guest65975> sda1?
[02:29] <n8wood> Guest65975: where should I be looking?
[02:29] <henry1> slake 12.4
[02:29] <henry1> slack
[02:29] <monskee_> anyone know where I should be getting help from?
[02:29] <ULFfuntu> Davide-buntu: ok mkdir /media/webshare
[02:29] <monskee_> (i'm new!)
[02:29] <seige232> Guest65975: my goal is to recover the Overlay files that I lost, and to trick VMI into reinitializing the VMDK with the Overlay to recover the data
[02:29] <ULFfuntu> ok?
[02:29] <Guest65975> henry1: Are you trying to dual partition?
[02:29] <henry1> nope
[02:29] <henry1> total wipe out
[02:30] <monskee_> (is this the right place for xubuntu installation problems help?)
[02:30] <Guest65975> Well, find out where the disk is: henry
[02:30] <ULFfuntu> Davide-buntu: is it a domain share ?
[02:30] <Guest65975> Type fdisk /dev/sda1 when you have the slack disk in
[02:30] <henry1> it say I only have read to the part table
[02:30] <itai_> monskee_, what the problem?
[02:30] <henry1> yes
[02:30] <Guest65975> henry, login as root when the slackware disk is in
[02:30] <henry1> I am
[02:30] <Guest65975> No password needed
[02:30] <henry1> true
[02:30] <Davide-buntu> ULFfuntu, it's a shared drive on MSHOME network
[02:31] <warcaptain> please can someone help?
[02:31] <Guest65975> And if you type fdisk /sda1 what does it say?
[02:31] <ULFfuntu> Davide-buntu: ok with a username/password or no?
[02:31] <henry1> its fdisk /dev/sda1
[02:31] <Davide-buntu> ULFfuntu, no
[02:31] <ULFfuntu> ok
[02:31] <usser> Davide-buntu, sudo mount -t cifs //none-xvlc1hi3pv/ /media/none
[02:31] <ULFfuntu> yeah
[02:31] <warcaptain> where is the transmission config file?
[02:31] <Guest65975> Righto, thanks.
[02:31] <Guest65975> Tis what I meant
[02:31] <Guest65975> What does it say?
[02:31] <usser> Davide-buntu, wont even need credentials if its a winXP home you're sharing from
[02:32] <Davide-buntu> usser, it's winxp pro
[02:32] <usser> Davide-buntu, actually
[02:32] <itai_> warcaptain, whats the problem?
[02:32] <ULFfuntu> except I would be root: mount -t cifs -o //none-whatever/ /media/none
[02:32] <henry1> it says  I cannot write that fsik is in read only mode
[02:32] <usser> Davide-buntu, scratch that your command is inavlid anyhow
[02:32] <{bosco}> idk
[02:32] <warcaptain> itai_: I started Web Interface by accident and now my GUI will not open!
[02:32] <henry1> fdisk
[02:32] <Guest65975> Well you're not writing anything
[02:32] <warcaptain> I assume it crashes when it starts
[02:32] <usser> Davide-buntu, //none-whatever/ is missing a sharename
[02:32] <Guest65975> It should show you a read only partition table
[02:32] <henry1> true
[02:32] <henry1> why
[02:32] <Guest65975> If it doesn't, you're in the wrong drive
[02:32] <{bosco}> henry1, the load gparted in a live cd
[02:32] <usser> Davide-buntu, should be //none-whatever/sharename //mymachine/C for example
[02:32] <seige232> To make my question simple for this room, as I know I can get a little complex at times, what "Undelte" software do you all recommend?
[02:32] <Davide-buntu> usser,  I guess it woudl be my D drive
[02:32] <henry1> it does I want to wipe it out
[02:32] <[]D[]D> henry1, Ultimate Bood CD easiest to use.
[02:32] <Guest65975> If you press p it should print the partition table, is it the right drive you see?
[02:32] <seige232> Undelete**
[02:32] <ULFfuntu> brb < doing the dew
[02:33] <usser> Davide-buntu, sudo mount -t cifs //none-xvlc1hi3pv/D /media/none
[02:33] <henry1> I need to write a new one
[02:33] <[]D[]D> henry1, Ultimate Bood CD easiest to use....
[02:33] <Guest65975> Yeah, you could use a rescue cd
[02:33] <Guest65975> And delete the partitions, create new partitions
[02:33] <henry1> yes I am on the rite drive
[02:33] <Guest65975> And then just run setup on the slack disk
[02:33] <warcaptain> itai_ any idea?
[02:33] <[]D[]D> ^_^
[02:33] <Davide-buntu> usser, ULFfuntu what do -t and -o do?
[02:33] <Davide-buntu> usser, ULFfuntu what do -t and -o do? and cifs
[02:33] <lubosz> i have to push 2 times the "^" key to get a ^. how can i reduce this to 1?
[02:33] <itai_> warcaptain, web insterface? what does that mean?
[02:34] <warcaptain> interface
[02:34] <warcaptain> sorry
[02:34] <warcaptain> the web interface.. so you can control it remotely I suppose (clutch?)
[02:34] <usser> Davide-buntu, -t cifs specifies filesystem of the share - cifs, -o tells mount that optional parameters follow
[02:34] <Roanoke> seige232: Undelete is not very possible with linux.
[02:34] <ULFfuntu> b
[02:34] <itai_> warcaptain,  erm... can you explain in more details what you did? i dont understand
[02:34] <henry1> ok I will try to book on aubuntu cd and use that fdisk and if it does not work I am comming back here thanks guys
[02:34] <usser> Davide-buntu, like -o user=root, pass=secure
[02:34] <ULFfuntu> Davide-buntu: t is for type, o is for options included
[02:34] <seige232> Roanoke: what would you recommend then?
[02:34] <Guest65975> Roanoke: Well, linux doesn't generically write 0's to the disk when it deletes
[02:34] <Guest65975> It just removes the file pointer
[02:35] <[]D[]D> this is a VERY useful chan i will idle here often.
[02:35] <warcaptain> I clicked "Enable web interface" and it crashed.. will not restart now
[02:35] <ULFfuntu> :)
[02:35] <Guest65975> (And may possibly write over those bits later, sure)
[02:35] <[]D[]D> remove and add again warcaptain ?
[02:35] <Davide-buntu> mount: wrong fs type,...
[02:35] <itai_> warcaptain, sorry, where did you click that?
[02:35] <Guest65975> seige232: I'm not sure of any good software for disk recovery
[02:35] <usser> Davide-buntu, sudo apt-get install smbfs
[02:35] <ULFfuntu> Davide-buntu: is smbfs loaded up
[02:35] <Roanoke> Guest65975: Well, do you know of any undelete programs? I don't. And could you please change your name so it would be easier to respond?  :o)
[02:36] <Roanoke> Ah. Yes.
[02:36]  * Guest65975 kids.
[02:36] <Guest65975> Sorry :o(
[02:36] <Roanoke> I sure do :P
[02:36] <[]D[]D> Guest65975, why not use a regular nick?
[02:36] <henry1> is is a grub thing and a lilo thiing
[02:36] <Guest65975> I could.
[02:36] <Roanoke> Guest65975: Xchat sometimes picks the wrong one if there's like two options left.
[02:36] <seige232> Guest65975: Well, the software I use as a business should have done the trick... but it did not find what I was looking for.
[02:36] <Guest65975> I jumped on irc via emacs
[02:37] <Guest65975> For a temporary session
[02:37] <Roanoke> Wow.
[02:37] <warcaptain> []D[]D: Did not work
[02:37] <[]D[]D> Roanoke, whats wrong?
[02:37] <itai_> warcaptain, preference of what
[02:37] <Roanoke> Guest65975: Emacs really is everything, including the kitchen sink.
[02:37] <Tap> for a local resolver on ubuntu, which do you guys prefer?  bind9?
[02:37] <[]D[]D> warcaptain, you used Add/Remove?
[02:37] <warcaptain> yes
[02:37] <n8wood> anyone know how to get the "Removable Media" preference in Intrepid?
[02:37] <warcaptain> ... itai_: preferences for the program Transmissions??
[02:37] <[]D[]D> should have removed all preferences.
[02:37] <LjL> Tap: i use dnsmasq :) but it's just a tiny cacher dns proxy
[02:37] <Davide-buntu> usser, ULFfuntu, mount error: could not find target server. TCP name none-xvlc1hi3pv/D not found
[02:37] <Davide-buntu> No ip address specified and hostname not found
[02:38] <Roanoke> Yay.
[02:38] <xtmnx> anyone know if there's a way to capture to file over 2GB in recordmydesktop?
[02:38] <Tap> lfl, lightweight dns resolver?    According to this - http://eucalyptus.cs.ucsb.edu/wiki/EucalyptusPrerequisites_v1.4 - I need to run a server that can deliver or relay email messages to email addresses.  I tried a few different things that I *think* fit the bill, but I can't get them to work (I'm testing by sending my GMail a message, which never gets received).  Any suggestions on how to get around this?
[02:38] <henry1> ok I will go now and try this thing again
[02:38] <usser> Davide-buntu, try by ip
[02:38] <zgmf-x42s> hey all, is there any extremely easy to use app to convert and .img file to an .iso file??????????????
[02:38] <ULFfuntu> Davide-buntu: ok ping that IP just to see connectivty... then adjust your host file
[02:38] <Tap> ljl i meant
[02:38] <mek||malloc> Fricken dpkg
[02:38] <henry1> :)
[02:38] <Davide-buntu> ULFfuntu, how do I ping it?
[02:39] <seige232> zgmf-x42s: UltraIso
[02:39] <ULFfuntu> cmd-line: ping <IP_ADDRESS> (or whatever)
[02:39] <ULFfuntu> and then Cntrl-C to stop the pinging
[02:39] <mek||malloc> Then check your arp cache
[02:39] <[]D[]D> why don't people use Ubuntu Ultimate?
[02:39] <mek||malloc> And figure out what his mac address is
[02:39] <mek||malloc> X)
[02:39] <aeonoris> zgmf-x42s, I'm pretty sure IMGs are ISOs.  Try renaming it and see if it works.
[02:39] <warcaptain> grrrr
[02:39] <warcaptain> even purge did not work
[02:40] <Davide-buntu> ULFfuntu, well I know there's connectivity cause I can browse to the folder from the file system
[02:40] <ULFfuntu> ok
[02:40] <Davide-buntu> ULFfuntu, I'm in there right now
[02:40] <seige232> IMG files correspond with the Clone-CD format. ISO files are single layered, rather than multi layered in the sense that Clone-CD Images are.
[02:40] <FloridaGuy> cant install or update anything because of this broken package....    ( E: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-14-generic: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1 )
[02:40] <ULFfuntu> so what are trying to do, mount it at startup?
[02:40] <mek||malloc> Why does dpkg think that one of my info files contains an empty filename
[02:41] <mek||malloc> This is so frusterating.
[02:41] <Davide-buntu> ULFfuntu, yes because sometimes stupid windows no longer lets me browse to that location says "cannot mount"  however I know there is still connectivity because if I play a "recent file" in the movie player from that location it still works
[02:41] <Davide-buntu> ULFfuntu, so I was hoping that with a startup mount I would be able to access it everytime no matter what
[02:41] <ULFfuntu> yeah a couple things
[02:41] <seige232> Renaming an *.IMG to the *.ISO format might not do it
[02:41] <monskee_> anyone got time to help me with my fstab after a wubi install gone slightly wrong?
[02:42] <EMKO1> can i edit a file with from ssh putty?
[02:42] <zgmf-x42s> seige232: ultraiso is not in the repositorites, is it third party?
[02:42] <ULFfuntu> Davide-buntu: you can modify your fstab for the automount at startup
[02:42] <zgmf-x42s> aeonoris: ok ill try that, see if it works
[02:42] <seige232> it is a windows app, but it can run under Linux via Wine
[02:42] <ULFfuntu> just google that stuff
[02:42] <[]D[]D> damn this chat scolls fast.
[02:42] <BlackCoffee> !weather font
[02:42] <[]D[]D> no services on this net?
[02:42] <zgmf-x42s> seige232: o... yah not looking for windows apps
[02:43] <seige232> =P
[02:43] <Davide-buntu> ULFfuntu, so I would just write what you had me write into fstab?
[02:43] <zgmf-x42s> seige232: looking for linux only
[02:43] <Speckz> EMKO1, yes, sudo gedit file.to.edit
[02:43] <Roanoke> []D[]D: Yes it does. I have xchat play a sound when I get a message with my name in it. It's a cowbell.
[02:43] <Davide-buntu> ULFfuntu, I've figured out how to edit fstab btw
[02:43] <FloridaGuy> ? cant install or update anything because of this broken package....    ( E: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-14-generic: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1 )
[02:43] <ULFfuntu> Davide-buntu: :) google
[02:43] <warcaptain> this sucks :(
[02:43] <warcaptain> it seems to just be broke
[02:43] <seige232> Wine emulates Windows Architecture under Linux.
[02:43] <[]D[]D> haha Roanoke i jsut flash blue, but i think im missing stuff so i am scared to switch
[02:44] <ULFfuntu> youre fs type is cifs and make your dmask,fmask accordingly
[02:44] <abama> ULFfuntu: if in vmware-player, how to resize the partition?
[02:44] <seige232> I run my UltraIso under Linux just fine
[02:44] <monskee_> could anyone help me with my fstab you kind and generous gurus?
[02:44] <monskee_> it don't have no UUID
[02:44] <ULFfuntu> abama: in vmware... i'm not sure... but that guide shows you how to ajust the vmware file itself
[02:44] <itai_> Davide-buntu, did you follow the link i gave you?
[02:44] <[]D[]D> with what about it monskee_ ?
[02:45] <monskee_> damnit how do i write in red?
[02:45] <ULFfuntu> abama: what is the linux fs type in vmware?\
[02:45] <ULFfuntu> abama: ext3 is a pain, but reiserfs no so
[02:45] <Davide-buntu> itai_, I'm going back to it now
[02:45] <[]D[]D> ctrl+k 5
[02:45] <[]D[]D>  like this
[02:45] <itai_> monskee_, you write someone's name
[02:45] <monskee_> []D[]D thanks
[02:45] <monskee_> nooooo
[02:45] <[]D[]D> yup
[02:45] <monskee_> i feel so silly
[02:45] <ULFfuntu> <zztop gh
[02:45] <seige232> ULFfuntu: EXT3 is indeed a pain, amen to that
[02:45] <zgmf-x42s> seige232: i mean native install into linux
[02:45] <EMKO1> when i try gedit in putty i get (gedit:9809): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[02:46] <zgmf-x42s> aeonoris: btw, renaming it doesnt work
[02:46] <[]D[]D> os[Linux 2.6.27-11-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "intrepid" 8.10] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270   @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz] mem[Physical: 997.8MB, 53.6% free] disk[Total: 636.5GB, 64.9% free] video[Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[02:46] <Speckz> EMKO1, try sudo nano file.to.edit
[02:46] <abama> ULFfuntu: but there is no vmware-vdiskmanager tool,  /dev/sda1 is ext3 in vmware-player
[02:46] <ULFfuntu> seige232: <acronis
[02:46] <tj83> monskee_, yu can get UUID with "sudo vol_id /dev/sda1"  adjust to your drive.
[02:46] <[]D[]D> fdisk -l
[02:46] <ULFfuntu> abama: well i think those tools are floating online somewhere... google it
[02:47] <FloridaGuy> anyone able to help me on this....   cant install or update anything because of this broken package....    ( E: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-14-generic: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1 )
[02:47] <seige232> zgmf-x42s: I told you that above, lol. ISO's, and IMG's are two different animals
[02:47] <monskee_> []D[]D oh so you see it in red. CLEVER! ok so i've just installed xubuntu and trying to boot it drops me to the shell! (how rude) the error is ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxxxxxxxx does not exist
[02:47] <zgmf-x42s> seige232: sorry must have missed it.  actually i thought it wouldnt work, but im desperate
[02:47] <[]D[]D> so edit fstab without that UUID?
[02:48] <aeonoris> zgmf-x42s, try ccd2iso
[02:48] <monskee_> 1st thing i tried when googling my problem
[02:48] <ULFfuntu> abama: next time use reiserfs because that pops up in acronis easily
[02:48] <monskee_> fstab don't have no uuid!
[02:48] <manpoole> could someone please recommend me a few programs for someones whos new to ubuntu?
[02:48] <monskee_> (stupid fstab!)
[02:48] <EMKO1> once im done editing how do i exit/save the file?
[02:48] <iamblue> Evenin folks, was wondering if it's worth doing an 'update-manager -d' for 9.04 right now, or would it be better to wait a few days?
[02:48] <ULFfuntu> manpoole: xmms2 for flacs ;)
[02:48] <aeonoris> zgmf-x42s, I've never used it, but someone on a forum recommends it, heh.
[02:48] <manpoole> is there a few programs you would install normally after a fresh install?
[02:48] <AK_Dave> manpool: I like zangband
[02:48] <manpoole> ahh
[02:48] <ULFfuntu> <zztop gh
[02:48] <manpoole> yes i have been reading about xmms
[02:49] <tj83> iamblue, been running for 2 weeks.... my opinion: get it.
[02:49] <xangua> manpoole install ubuntu Restricted Extras, it install flash, java, fonts, codecs, etc
[02:49] <iamblue> thanks, trying it on my laptop, gonna see if it works out well
[02:49] <EMKO1> figured out how to save/exit but i get permission denied
[02:49] <manpoole> did the restricted
[02:49] <tj83> iamblue, running on my laptop and desktop... both flawless so far.
[02:49] <monskee_> that would be brill, but i have NO IDEA what i'm doing editing fstab!
[02:49] <monskee_> i'd just write 'work damnit
[02:49] <Speckz> EMKO1, did you sudo nano?
[02:49] <monskee_> '
[02:49] <rww> !xmms | manpoole
[02:49] <monskee_> and hope linux knows what i mean
[02:49] <aeonoris> manpoole, I personally like VLC.  It can play a wide range of video/audio files.
[02:49] <AK_Dave> manpool: I always install: ubuntu-restricted-extras dkms virtualbox conky kubuntu-desktop and some video codecs. For starters.
[02:49] <manpoole> i was using amarok... but xmms2 is the way to go?
[02:50] <ULFfuntu> does your computer have a lot of guts?
[02:50] <ULFfuntu> xmms2 is small
[02:50] <manpoole> yes lol
[02:50] <rww> manpoole: not generally, no. I'd recommend audacious or amaroK (you can run it in Ubuntu, even on GNOME!)
[02:50] <FloridaGuy> E: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-14-generic: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[02:50] <usser> manpoole, or exaile
[02:50] <zyh> sdfasf
[02:50] <zyh> seeefe
[02:50] <monskee_> for good programs, google it!
[02:50] <geeksquad1> where is the firefox lockfile located
[02:50] <monskee_> there's loads of lists out there
[02:50] <ULFfuntu> <1200mhz AMD in garage
[02:50]  * tj83 votes exaile
[02:50] <aeonoris> manpoole, I also recommend Amarok for audio.
[02:50] <mattyb> does anyone know how to select text in the terminal using the keyboard?
[02:51] <AK_Dave> ULF: That old box would make a great firewall
[02:51] <iamblue> I'm not an amarok fan, the interface is odd to me
[02:51] <zyh> hello
[02:51] <ULFfuntu> i dualboot w98 games
[02:51] <manpoole> i love hearing everyones opinions through actual non noob input helps a lot
[02:51] <zyh> 同志们好！
[02:51] <manpoole> yeah ive heard of exaile too
[02:51] <iamblue> Most of the new music players try to do too much, call me traditional but I just like to have a list of artists/songs etc and have what I want play
[02:51] <ULFfuntu> <ISA soundcard
[02:52] <mek||malloc> I should just version control my whole damn machine.
[02:52] <mek||malloc> -.-
[02:52] <geeksquad1> does anyone know where the firefol lockfile is ???
[02:52] <manpoole> i understand ati is a nightmare
[02:52] <manpoole> im worried about 9.04 and my ati 1650
[02:52] <StreetPhysicist> can someone tell me the terminal command to suspend or hibernate?  I've tried s2disk and s2both, but they don't exist as I haven't installed uswsusp.  But I can still suspend if I select it from the menu, how do I do it from the terminal?  Or do I HAVE to install uswsusp.  Also, either way, would you recommend that I install uswsusp?
[02:52] <geeksquad1> *firefox
[02:52] <ULFfuntu> manpoole: do 10 installs in a row
[02:53] <aeonoris> I'm trying to set up a Eucalyptus server on the beta of Jaunty Jackalope.  According to this - http://eucalyptus.cs.ucsb.edu/wiki/EucalyptusPrerequisites_v1.4 - I need to run a server that can deliver or relay email messages to email addresses.  I tried a few different things that I *think* fit the bill, but I can't get them to work (I'm testing by sending my GMail a message, which never gets received).  Any suggestions on how to get around this?
[02:53] <monskee_> so anyone know anyting about my stupid fstab and uuid stuff?
[02:53] <rww> StreetPhysicist: It's called "pm-suspend" or something like that, I think.
[02:53] <AK_Dave> monskee: I suggest dropping uuid for label
[02:53] <StreetPhysicist> rww: thanks
[02:53]  * rww hasn't used it in a long while
[02:53] <mattyb> anyone here get conky to work?
[02:53]  * AK_Dave loves conky
[02:54] <Gaming4JC1> yo all.
[02:54] <mattyb> i'm trying to get it to show up on my root desktop, not in its own window.
[02:54] <Gaming4JC1> Does anyone know how to setup a serial port modem soley from console. No gnome.
[02:54] <Gaming4JC1> ?
[02:54] <ryanprior> mattyb: You should not have a root desktop. Ubuntu is not built to allow root GUI logins.
[02:54] <manpoole> ulfuntu what 10 installs are those?
[02:54] <mattyb> fine, my normal-user desktop.
[02:54] <manpoole> and why kubuntu desktop?
[02:54] <usser> ryanprior, different kind of root desktop lol :)
[02:55] <AK_Dave> mattyb: Thats where conky belongs.
[02:55] <ULFfuntu> manpoole: like if you do it several times you learn a lot... my experience with nvidia drivers
[02:55] <Gaming4JC> I've heard ppp, pon, and pof so far no luck tho
[02:55] <mattyb> AK_Dave: any idea how to get it there?
[02:55] <ULFfuntu> because you have to compile the drivers
[02:55] <AK_Dave> mattyb: 'conky -d -c /home/mattyb/.conkyrc &'
[02:55] <ULFfuntu> Gaming4JC: like the serial port shows up firstly right?
[02:56] <usser> mattyb, make sure own_window no is in /etc/conky/conky.conf
[02:56] <AK_Dave> mattyb: Oh, but you'll need to write or plagiarize a .conkyrc
[02:56] <ULFfuntu> cat /proc/interrupts
[02:56] <mattyb> AK_Dave: i used the sample one.
[02:56] <manpoole> ive learned alot about xorg.conf in a few days lol
[02:56] <ULFfuntu> yeah
[02:56] <aeonoris> Has anyone here tried Eucalyptus?
[02:56] <AK_Dave> mattyb: go to tuxtraining.org and search 'conky'
[02:56] <Gaming4JC> ULFuntu: it's not being detected but I know it's on ttys0
[02:56] <iamblue> not yet
[02:57] <manpoole> im about to google conky it sounds pretty crazy
[02:57] <mattyb> son of a gun
[02:57] <Gaming4JC> and it will work if I can configure it from terminal
[02:57] <iamblue> http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[02:57] <ULFfuntu> Gaming4JC: well not being detected is a bigge (to me)
[02:57] <Gaming4JC> but I am unsure how
[02:57] <aeonoris> Hum
[02:57] <ULFfuntu> like do the lights flicker?
[02:57] <ULFfuntu> how can you tell
[02:58] <Gaming4JC> I need the lowest level way of dialing up
[02:58] <Gaming4JC> :P
[02:59] <Gaming4JC> hmm
[02:59] <ULFfuntu> Gaming4JC: well i think you need a couple of modem codes like ATA whatever I forgot
[02:59] <mek||malloc> ls
[02:59] <mek||malloc> Whoops, sorry -.-
[02:59] <ULFfuntu> attention modem
[02:59] <ULFfuntu> thats a good one i dunno.. i got the old serial modems though
[03:00] <ULFfuntu> i think 4800 baud
[03:00] <ULFfuntu> zoom
[03:01] <keystr0k> Is there a good way to tag images in Ubuntu? It'd be a nice OS feature... but I assume I have to use software to do it?
[03:01] <usser> Gaming4JC, use wvdial if your modem is recognized, ie its not a win modem it should be just fine
[03:02] <ULFfuntu> usser: good
[03:02] <ULFfuntu> win modem
[03:02] <ULFfuntu> ack
[03:02] <adr|an> hola
[03:02] <usser> Gaming4JC, /dev/ttySL0 you mean?
[03:02] <adr|an> ay alguien por aqui ?
[03:02] <tritium> !es > adr|an
[03:03] <Gaming4JC> I don't think.
[03:03] <Gaming4JC> Also it's not a win modem
[03:03] <Gaming4JC> it works with every linux distro so far
[03:03] <Gaming4JC> but this version is pretty limited
[03:03] <tj83> ok all, i'm bored... what can i do that is all the rage? something new to learn?
[03:03] <ULFfuntu> Gaming4JC: ok describe the setup physically? i haven't got the picture yet
[03:03] <usser> tj83, vbscript
[03:04] <Gaming4JC> techniqually I'm trying to setup HoneyWall, but I came here because you are more informed than #honeynets
[03:04] <Gaming4JC> lol
[03:04] <Gaming4JC> It detects eth0
[03:04] <andrew_> hello
[03:04] <Gaming4JC> but I need it to Dial-Up with ttys0 on ppp
[03:04] <tj83> usser, other than MS crap lol
[03:04] <ULFfuntu> whooe
[03:04] <Gaming4JC> the modem is a Trendnet Serial modem
[03:04] <mek||malloc> Howdy.
[03:05] <ubuntunoobneedin> Hello all
[03:05] <ULFfuntu> Gaming4JC: verified funtional with this setup right?
[03:05] <usser> Gaming4JC, do you have /dev/modem ?
[03:05] <ULFfuntu> yeah
[03:05] <usser> Gaming4JC, where does it point to if it does?
[03:05] <Gaming4JC> I'll check but I don't believe it detected it
[03:05] <ULFfuntu> detection is a bigge
[03:05] <Gaming4JC> no such directory
[03:06] <zerodevice> celthunder
[03:06] <mek||malloc> So. My dpgk is dead.
[03:06] <mek||malloc> -.-
[03:06] <Gaming4JC> the hardest part of HoneyWall was getting to the graphical menu. It always says "-bash: Menu: command not found "
[03:06] <mek||malloc> How would I go about rebuilding dpgk without formatting?
[03:06] <zerodevice> hi everyone, i had mounted my hd but it shows nothing inside the hd, i am sure that i have lots of files in there. any leads?
[03:06] <ULFfuntu> Gaming4JC: like if you stick in a livecd to that routerbox that modem shows up?
[03:06] <Roasted> Who's good with understanding Ubuntu's hostname process to help me with something quick?
[03:06] <Gaming4JC> turns out you gotta type "roo" as login, "honey", as pass, and then "su -" to get to that menu.... hmm
[03:07] <Gaming4JC> yes
[03:07] <Gaming4JC> the modem shows
[03:07] <ULFfuntu> ok
[03:07] <ULFfuntu> i've never done a modem in linux
[03:07] <ULFfuntu> but someday..
[03:07] <n8wood> anyone have an idea where I can look to disable gnome from trying to automount my iphone?
[03:07] <ULFfuntu> we'll its sw problem
[03:08] <jdu> zerodevice, you are sure you mounted it correctly?
[03:08] <zerodevice> jdu, well in the gui, i just clicked on the device and mount it.
[03:08] <ULFfuntu> brb looking for a book
[03:08] <Gaming4JC> ok
[03:08] <lubosz> n8wood: http://darkknight9.blogspot.com/2007/03/gnome-automount-options.html
[03:08] <jdu> zerodevice, then you clicked on the icon that appeared on the desktop?
[03:08] <keystr0k> anyone know how to use mogrify (imagemagick) to trim using a color at the bottom left of an image (instead of the top left, or whatever else it uses by default)?
[03:09] <Gaming4JC> I found some info on ppp http://oreilly.com/catalog/umppp/chapter/ch06.html
[03:09] <jdu> zerodevice, what fs is the hard drive formatted with?
[03:09] <zerodevice> jdu, yes. i clicked that and its empty, when i do 'df' in terminal, it shows that the disk is there at /dev/sda1 inside /media/disk, problem is, i try to cd into /sda1 it says no such directory.
[03:09] <mattyb> anybody know offhand how to select text in a terminal without using the mouse?
[03:09] <zerodevice> jdu, its ext3, it was previously a running ubuntu 8.10
[03:10] <jdu> zerodevice, try cd /media/disk
[03:10] <zerodevice> jdu, cd/media/disk works
[03:10] <Gaming4JC> I may have to compile PPP, if it's not included.
[03:10] <Gaming4JC> :-/
[03:10] <zerodevice> jdu, inside there's only /dev
[03:10] <usser> Gaming4JC, ppp is there
[03:10] <tritium> !ppp | ULFfuntu, Gaming4JC:
[03:10] <lupe> spanich
[03:10] <jdu> zerodevice, it used to have a ubuntu install?
[03:11] <usser> Gaming4JC, sudo apt-get install ppp pppconfig wvdial
[03:11] <ULFfuntu> Gaming4JC: ok yeah ppp
[03:11] <usser> Gaming4JC, thats pretty much everything you need
[03:11] <Gaming4JC> ok I got something though
[03:11] <lupe> alguien habla español
[03:11] <[_pablomino_3389> yo
[03:11] <jdu> zerodevice, what if with the terminal you do cd /media/disk; ls -a
[03:11] <[_pablomino_3389> todo bien?
[03:11] <Gaming4JC> . /etc/ppp is a directory
[03:11] <zerodevice> jdu, its a ubuntu 8.10, then i messed up the permission thing and so everything doesnt work and i had to use the live cd to check and see if i can chmod the files back
[03:11] <Gaming4JC> thanks for link
[03:11] <ULFfuntu> /usr/share/ppp/scripts (whatever)
[03:12] <seria-mau> in compiz config manager: can i configure minimize effect in a way that the animation goes to the top instead to the bottom of the screen?
[03:12] <ULFfuntu> /etc/ppp
[03:12] <Ububegin> I am thinking of getting a wireless PCI adaptor for my desktop... It seems that Ubuntu only supports certain wireless adaptors.. Is there a list somewhere....
[03:12] <usser> !wireless | Ububegin
[03:13] <usser> Ububegin, i'd go with intel chipsets, 3945 works for me
[03:13] <Gaming4JC> Ubuegin, it's a bit of work but you can even get linksys to work without to much effort.
[03:13] <zerodevice> jdu, here's the list http://paste.ubuntu.com/151807
[03:13] <Gaming4JC> It uses Windows Native config files
[03:13] <ULFfuntu> <raLink
[03:14] <ULFfuntu> Gaming4JC: so what happened?
[03:14] <jdu> zerodevice, that looks perfectly normal.
[03:14] <n8wood> lubosz: I think I'm getting an error because VirtualBox is accessing the iphone while gnome is trying to get to it.
[03:15] <jdu> zerodevice, maybe I misunderstood the question?
[03:15] <Gaming4JC> ULFuntu: no pppd, pppconfig
[03:15] <Gaming4JC> I'm going to see what's in the folder tho
[03:15] <Ububegin> usser: this are the cards available in my home country.. http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/priceguide/priceguide.php?id=350&filter=&sortby=name&pg=0
[03:15] <CrocoJet> If I install ubuntu 9.04 (beta), do I need re-install everything after oficial release?
[03:15] <lubosz> n8wood: then maybe you have to do it manually. starting vbox
[03:16] <rww> CrocoJet: 1) no 2) 9.04 questions in #ubuntu+1, not here
[03:16] <yosii> where would i set up a modem for dialup?
[03:16] <CrocoJet> rww, ok, thanks
[03:16] <zerodevice> jdu, here's the list http://paste.ubuntu.com/151810   <--- the df shows the sda1 is there, but i can't cd into it.
[03:16] <Grand_User> semarang
[03:16] <n8wood> lubosz: I also see the error when I do it manually :(  Not sure what GNOME is trying to lock it for.
[03:17] <jdu> zerodevice, you shouldn't ever be able to cd into sda1  because sda1 is a defice file that represents your hard drive kind of like c: in windows
[03:17] <Grand_User> #semarang
[03:17] <usser> Ububegin, google for the card + chipset it uses, your site doesnt seem to list that info
[03:17] <jdu> zerodevice, rather you can cd into the mount point which in this case is /media/disk
[03:17] <Gaming4JC> ULFuntu: http://oreilly.com/catalog/umppp/chapter/ch06.html on Configuring pppd I think it's working.
[03:17] <Ububegin> usser: hi, with a quick glance.. you can recommend me any product there.. then I will do further research or it...
[03:18] <zerodevice> well i was able to cd into the mounted sda1 yesterday to do chmod'
[03:18] <Gaming4JC> so I'll follow that tut for now.
[03:18] <ULFfuntu> thx
[03:18] <usser> Ububegin, or go to wifi docs and see if the card is listed, its a tedious process, those pricks in online store dont ever, EVER list the chipset
[03:18] <Gadu> ok, I've decided to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 (finally lol) but I want to make a backup with sbackup before proceeding. What folders will I need to backup exactly to revert it back to 8.04 if I need to?
[03:18] <zerodevice> jdu, well i was able to cd into the mounted sda1 yesterday to do chmod'
[03:18] <manpoole> what is the best dock applauncher program?
[03:18] <ULFfuntu> Gaming4JC: y'know I haven't used a modem in ages :)
[03:18] <jdu> zerodevice, you did cd /dev/sda1   ?  did you create a mount point called sda1?
[03:18] <usser> Ububegin, hang on
[03:18] <Ububegin> usser: :)  thanks...
[03:19] <zerodevice> jdu, well in the df, it shows /dev/sda1 at the 1st column, does that means i have it
[03:19] <jdu> zerodevice, can I see the output of df?
[03:19] <phobiac> Is there a way to set tap to click for my laptop's trackpad be right click instead of left click?
[03:20] <zerodevice> jdu, here's the list http://paste.ubuntu.com/151810   <--- the df shows the sda1 is there, but i can't cd into it.
[03:20] <Gaming4JC> ULFuntu: lol, yah modems are nastalgia. ;)
[03:21] <ULFfuntu> Gaming4JC: so who are connectying with? peoplePC
[03:21] <zerodevice> jdu, i think wat happen was the permission i messed up previously does not allow me to view the files and folders inside the sda1, so what do i do to view or change all the permission?
[03:21] <jdu> zerodevice, do you get an error message?
[03:21]  * AK_Dave remembers his first 300baud acoustic modem
[03:22] <ULFfuntu> 300 baud gawd
[03:22] <Ububegin> Just a general shout out... which PCI wireless adaptors , do you pple use....
[03:22] <bobgill> how do I start or stop daemons in ubuntu? /etc.init.d/process or something?
[03:22] <ULFfuntu> <ralink with ubuntu
[03:22] <zerodevice> jdu, no error msg. i try to create a folder there in the blank directory inside the mounted hd with gui, it says permission denied.
[03:22] <Gaming4JC> ULFuntu: Some no name brand ISP. $12 a month. I use Juno some too though.
[03:23] <Hammerjak> bobgill, yes, /etc/init.d/<process> start
[03:23] <Mora> I was listening to an MP3 in Audacious, and it stopped playback abruptly.  Now I can't play any sounds, regardless of what application I use - the sound isn't muted, the seek bar/play timers don't count up or anything.
[03:23] <zerodevice> jdu, i tried to boot into terminal with the hd itself and not the live cd, it seems that i cant do that as well. so i cant access to startx to change the permission'
[03:23] <ULFfuntu> man dialup
[03:23] <Mora> I've tried #/etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart.
[03:23] <ULFfuntu> where to start
[03:24] <N_O_W> can someone help me with abuntu
[03:24] <N_O_W> ?
[03:24] <Speckz> N_O_W, this is #ubuntu ;)
[03:24] <N_O_W> lol i mean
[03:24] <N_O_W> ubuntu
[03:24] <Ububegin> ULFfuntu: is ralink the chipset
[03:25] <ULFfuntu> yeah, about a $9 pci card from amazon
[03:25] <N_O_W> i need websites to download games
[03:25] <jdu> zerodevice, chmod -R u+r /media/disk would add read permissions to everything. but when I look at the output of ls -la I don't see any permission problems there.
[03:25] <usser> Ububegin,  this one seem it would work http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/priceguide/info.php?cid=350&id=10089
[03:25] <Ububegin> ULFfuntu: http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/priceguide/priceguide.php?id=350&filter=&sortby=name&pg=0 ..is it here
[03:25] <ULFfuntu> Ububegin: haven't got a RTL-8185L to work with ubuntu though... but it works here in debian
[03:26] <Hammerjak> N_O_W, you mean open source linux games?
[03:26] <SonOfDorn26> I am having trouble installing Ubuntu. I've burnt myself a boot CD of the most recent version, however, when it comes time to pick a hard drive for the partition, none of my SATA drives show up.
[03:26] <usser> Ububegin, sometimes they change revisions, put rev A and completely freaking change the chipset which totally breaks linux support
[03:26] <Mylisto> hey all
[03:26] <Ububegin> usser: does the 54 or 108 Mbs make a difference
[03:26] <usser> Ububegin, so you gotta be careful, call them up and ask for exact model/revision number
[03:26] <Mylisto> I need to download all of a persons pictures on photobucket.  Anyone know how this is possible?
[03:26] <zerodevice> jdu, in that case u can tell that the hd is mounted but i cant view all the files in there
[03:26] <usser> Ububegin, 108mbps wont probably work in linux anyhow
[03:27] <ULFfuntu> Ububegin: those are all nice cards... i think a Broadcom chip is the most common for linux... could be wrong
[03:27] <ULFfuntu> yeah older is better
[03:27] <zerodevice> jdu, just wondering is there any permission that even root cannot access?
[03:27] <Gaming4JC> ULFuntu: It would have worked but pppd is not installed on this particular distro. Major bummer.
[03:27] <usser> zerodevice, nope\
[03:27] <Gaming4JC> ULFuntu: Thanks for help though.
[03:27] <Speckz> N_O_W, Try http://www.happypenguin.org/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_gaming
[03:27] <ULFfuntu> Gaming4JC: well ... can you wget the ppdaemon?
[03:28] <ULFfuntu> what is the distro?
[03:28] <Gaming4JC> ULFuntu: I also wonder if I could figure out what modem DreamCast is. ttys0? xD
[03:28]  * Gaming4JC looks
[03:28] <jdu> zerodevice, sure if the file is owned by root and the permissions are 000
[03:28] <jdu> SonOfDorn26, what happens if you start gparted.  Do they show up?
[03:28] <Gaming4JC> I can wget the ppdaemon but I'm offline on the other box.
[03:28] <Gaming4JC> ULFuntu ^
[03:29] <Gaming4JC> can't dial to get it
[03:29] <Gaming4JC> xD
[03:29] <ULFfuntu> oh... i know on Distrowatch there are plenty of routerbox distros like Vyyad or something\
[03:29] <Speckz> N_O_W, and http://www.linuxgames.com/ and http://whdb.com/2008/top-25-linux-games-for-2008/
[03:29] <usser> jdu, thats simply not true
[03:29] <usser> jdu, root has access to anything regardless of the permissions
[03:29] <N_O_W> ty
[03:29] <jdu> usser, sorry, obviously I make mistakes.
[03:29] <Ububegin> usser, ULFfuntu : thanks for the insight... THough, i do wonder why linux doesnt do drivers for all PCI chipsets.... :S
[03:30] <ULFfuntu> well its the open-source model
[03:30] <SonOfDorn26> jdu: Hold on, let me attempt it
[03:30] <ULFfuntu> like no one in charge :)
[03:30] <usser> Ububegin, manufacturers dont release specs on their cards, half the drivers in linux are reversed engineered
[03:30] <aesis> like no one to pay for specs
[03:30] <ULFfuntu> yeah
[03:30] <ULFfuntu> so older is better compatiblity wise there
[03:31] <ULFfuntu> don't get a super-duper newish wireless card
[03:31] <jdu> usser, you're right.
[03:31] <jdu> zerodevice, no root can access everything.  I feel dumn
[03:31] <usser> jdu, :)
[03:31] <Ububegin> But why dont any manufacturers team up with Linux like they do with WIndows...
[03:31] <SonOfDorn26> jdu: will I be able to run gparted while booted on a windows OS?
[03:31] <ULFfuntu> $$$
[03:31] <zerodevice> jdu, i think something is funny. yesterday i mounted the hd and they are inside /media/disk/dev/sda1, but just u said, so i double check and noticed that the hd was mounted into /media/disk, and i try to view from the gui file browser, the files where not shown inside /media/disk
[03:32] <Ububegin> SonOfDorn26: try to burn the liveCD of gparted.. It is better, I feel
[03:32] <Gaming4JC> N_O_W: BZFlag, Torqs, Tux Racer, Tux Kart, just to mention a few. And if you for some reason need Windowz There's always http://www.winehq.org/ ;)
[03:32] <gartral> SonOfDorn26: not unless your trying to partition a different drive than what windows is running from
[03:32] <zerodevice> jdu, now. wat is the most common default chmod value for all files on ubuntu? 755? 644? 777?
[03:32] <Ububegin> zerodevice: 755
[03:32] <SonOfDorn26> Ah, this is an endeavor for another night. I'm out of blank disks.
[03:32] <Ienorand> Ububegin: Market share... People are still afraid of penguins  although Dell already has some, as well as system76 zareason etc.
[03:32] <zerodevice> Ubebegin, thanks
[03:32] <zerodevice> Ububegin, thanks
[03:32] <jdu> SonOfDorn26, no
[03:33] <SonOfDorn26> Oh?
[03:33] <zerodevice> what is the chmod value for "home" folder?
[03:33] <Ienorand> SonOfDorn26: Or use systemRescueCD
[03:33] <zerodevice> home -> 644 or 755?
[03:34] <nikin> hy... how can i get the resolution of a JPG image from the command line
[03:34] <ULFfuntu> 755
[03:34] <gartral> alright, im looking for a new gfx card, and i dont want to waist money, i need AGP, this board only has two PCI slots and there used, im looking at the GeForce 9800 GT, is this a good idea, or not?
[03:34] <Ienorand> zerodevice: I think 755 there as well
[03:34] <ULFfuntu> damn hell yeah
[03:34] <ULFfuntu> <mx400
[03:34] <tuxFan> go xfx Nvidia.. cheap
[03:34] <aesis> won't stat <file/folder name> show the octals?
[03:35] <Ububegin> gartral: just stay away from ATI... ATI and Ubuntu are enemies
[03:35] <zerodevice> ok, becoz i made a mistake last time and i had to chmod the entire hd into 755 now. so, which other folder or files i should change the mod again apart form 755?
[03:35] <ULFfuntu> heh
[03:35] <nikin> gartral: 9800GT in AGP seems pretty overkill to me... CPU? RAM?
[03:35] <gartral> ULFfuntu: i have a GeForce 2 MX 420 right now... SecondLife runs horrible
[03:35] <ULFfuntu> xchat runs ok :)
[03:35] <helllllp> can someone help me fix my wifi?
[03:36] <SonOfDorn26> hold on, getting the ISO
[03:36] <tgr> hi where can i find a comparison between mac and pc?
[03:36] <tgr> or laptop
[03:36] <ULFfuntu> <$5 ebay
[03:36] <ryanprior> tgr: Not here.
[03:36] <aesis> tgr: do you mean for running Ubuntu or just in general?
[03:36] <gartral> tgr: this is Ubuntu, which is neither Apple, Nor Micr$oft
[03:36] <tgr> general
[03:37] <tgr> i am trying to convince my friend to install ubuntu
[03:37] <aesis> then this is not the right place to ask, we don't know
[03:37] <helllllp> my wifi doesnt work i need some help getting it to work anyone willing to help?
[03:37] <nikin> gartral: i would get a 6600GT ... it is well balanced for about 2.4Ghz AthlonXP with 1Gig RM
[03:37] <tgr> on an hp
[03:37] <tgr> laptop
[03:37] <Ububegin> tgr: try #windows
[03:37] <jdu> usser, as always root is god.  However I believe there are some examples where root in *nix would not have permissions.  I believe bsd has something called a immutable (bit?)
[03:37] <Gaming4JC> I think grsecurity should be implemented with Ubuntu kernal :P (more secure!)
[03:37] <ryanprior> gartral: Please don't use disparaging language when referring to Microsoft. It does not help us to be disrespectful.
[03:37] <zerodevice> jdu, and others that helped me. thanks. i think i now understand more on ubuntu.
[03:37] <gartral> nikin: i have a 1.7 ghz cpu, and less than 512 megs ram
[03:37] <ULFfuntu> ubuntu is more social :)
[03:37] <Gaming4JC> hmm
[03:37] <aesis> helllllp: have you checked out ubuntuforums.org?
[03:37] <Gaming4JC> imagine Ubuntu on Sega DreamCast
[03:37] <Gaming4JC> that'll be the day
[03:38] <ULFfuntu> hell tyeah
[03:38] <Gaming4JC> NetBSD runs on it
[03:38] <helllllp> yeah
[03:38] <Gaming4JC> lol
[03:38] <helllllp> they dont help much
[03:38] <tgr> how does ubuntu compare with macosx?
[03:38] <zerodevice> now everything in my ubuntu like all files and folders are now 755, why do i got a feeling that this is not secure?
[03:38] <gartral> !language | ULFfuntu
[03:38] <ULFfuntu> tgr: mac osx is really nice
[03:38] <walt_> test_please_ignore
[03:38] <ULFfuntu> ubuntu more freer
[03:38] <Stupendoussteve> tgr: Ubuntu runs on a ton more hardware :)
[03:38] <Gaming4JC> The new Mac IMovie is lame <--
[03:38] <Gaming4JC> Ubuntu with zs4 is better
[03:38] <ryanprior> tgr: They are both UNIX-like systems. Mac OS X is not Free Software and is not community-driven. For more information, see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://www.apple.com
[03:38] <Gaming4JC> or some other editor
[03:38] <jdu> zerodevice, good
[03:39] <ULFfuntu> <geexbox
[03:39] <nikin> gartral: then a normal 6600 will be more than enough... consider buying some more ram from the money yousave
[03:39] <jdu> zerodevice, sorry for getting distracted there.
[03:39] <usser> jdu, i wouldnt know that much about bsd
[03:39] <Floops> anyone ever seen this error before try to load vb/vm within ubuntu
[03:39] <Floops> http://chaos.balgus.info/Screenshot-1.png
[03:39] <gartral> nikin: my board will not addres more than 502 meg, i have a gig in it
[03:39] <Stupendoussteve> That picture host is slow...
[03:40] <ULFfuntu> gartral: if you can find them old nvidia cards.. I mean your overpaying anything over 10 bucks
[03:40] <Stupendoussteve> :P
[03:40] <usser> Floops, good god man compress it or something
[03:40] <zerodevice> jdu, its ok. apprently i can now boot into a blank gui for ubuntu, coz all my files are in 755 and i cant load anything there. lol just 2 icon on desktop, computer and trash
[03:40] <jdu> usser, now that I think about it, that is the only example ;)    thanks for keeping on top of things when some one makes an error.
[03:40] <ULFfuntu> cause nvidia makes killer entry level cards anyhow
[03:40] <nikin> gartral: strange.. my old P2 board handled 728.. take a look at your RAM  modules
[03:40] <Stupendoussteve> It's like being on dial up!
[03:40] <Stupendoussteve> Floops: I can almost see the error message!
[03:40] <Floops> it just did it quick
[03:40] <gartral> nikin: im running an ASUS Dragon 1...
[03:41] <Gaming4JC> Stupendoussteve: I dunno about that! 26.4kbps here. Dial-uppp is slowwwww. xD
[03:41] <Stupendoussteve> If it's in your cache it would be quick
[03:41] <ULFfuntu> gawd :p
[03:41] <tuxFan> dang still 56k its in use?
[03:41] <ULFfuntu> agony
[03:42]  * usser how big is this thing???
[03:42] <ULFfuntu> but that was the norm around 1983ish
[03:42] <Floops> ok
[03:42] <nikin> gartral: i dont know much about it.. but aa board handling 1.7 Ghz CPU must handle more RAM... raly check your modules
[03:42] <Floops> i just drop all my torrent
[03:42] <Stupendoussteve> Floops: Look through http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=346185 - First poster on the second page has the same error after a reboot
[03:43] <Floops> could be able to see it soon
[03:43] <gartral> nikin: these chips work, i took them out of an old server
[03:43] <Stupendoussteve> Actually
[03:43] <Stupendoussteve> the thread is old
[03:43] <tgr> which is lighter ubuntu or macosx
[03:43] <Stupendoussteve> but the error is the same, maybe you can fix it :P
[03:43] <Gaming4JC> tuxFan: If cable is too expensive or you need a backup, a phoneline is helpful. Juno is free (despite ads)
[03:43] <Gaming4JC> :P
[03:43] <ULFfuntu> tgr...well that depends on DE
[03:43] <nikin> gartral: compatibility with motherboardisan otherquestion... like REG ECC modules tend not to work well with desktops
[03:44] <ULFfuntu> Gnome anyone?
[03:44] <tgr> what is ge
[03:44] <tuxFan> k = )
[03:44] <tgr> de
[03:44] <Gaming4JC> Gnome ftw on me
[03:44] <ULFfuntu> I like LXDE some
[03:44] <ULFfuntu> for servers
[03:44] <ULFfuntu> if you need it
[03:44] <gartral> nikin: these dont support REG ECC, the server complained about it, thats why i put them in here :)
[03:44] <mmmyummytreats> hey all can anyone help me with broadcom wireless driver issues?
[03:44] <Floops> k thanks
[03:44] <tritium> !enter > ULFfuntu
[03:44] <Floops> i will look
[03:44] <mmmyummytreats> i asked before and still can't get no satisfaction
[03:44] <yosii> here's an interesting one for ya, linuxant drivers launch firefox to install
[03:45] <nikin> gartral: if iwhere you i would download the user manual and check the max alowed RAM size, and the supported module types
[03:45] <Gaming4JC> yep
[03:45] <Gaming4JC> linuxant stinks tho
[03:45] <Gaming4JC> 14kbps
[03:45] <gartral> nikin: im sorry, i said "
[03:45] <gartral> a gig" it ommitted "half" so, i have Half a gig
[03:45] <yosii> Gaming4JC: it's better than NOTHING on an hsf modem
[03:45] <Gaming4JC> true
[03:45] <gartral> why was that split?
[03:45] <Gaming4JC> but if you got the money TrendNet Serial Modem is best
[03:45] <Gaming4JC> the thing just works!
[03:45] <Gaming4JC> no setup required
[03:46] <yosii> Gaming4JC: USB?
[03:46] <Gaming4JC> tell it to connect on ttys0
[03:46] <Gaming4JC> and wallah
[03:46] <nikin> gartral: you have that one gig in two modules?
[03:46] <Gaming4JC> USB might work to
[03:46] <ULFfuntu> Gaming4JC: yeah that TrendNet is an up and coming manu
[03:46] <tuxFan> ok im out .. peace!
[03:46] <yosii> Gaming4JC: i don't have any serial ports
[03:46] <Gaming4JC> hmm
[03:46] <Gaming4JC> ULFuntu: up and coming "manu"? lol
[03:46] <ULFfuntu> heh
[03:47] <Gaming4JC> hmm
[03:47] <gartral> nikin: i have a half gig, 2 256 modules
[03:47] <Gaming4JC> no serial ports is lame
[03:47] <nikin> gartral: wich ones work?
[03:47] <Gaming4JC> USB modem then
[03:47] <Gaming4JC> or
[03:47] <gartral> nikin: they both do
[03:47] <Gaming4JC> USB Wifi Dongle if you got wifi anywhere near you
[03:47] <ULFfuntu> Gaming4JC: yeah I saw one of those the other day.. for sprint
[03:47] <Gaming4JC> yes
[03:47] <Gaming4JC> kinda pricy
[03:48] <yosii> i have 3 usb ports, one video, eth, one phone, one ps/2, 3 usb
[03:48] <tgr> what ubuntu can i install on a mac laptop?
[03:48] <ULFfuntu> kewl
[03:48] <nikin> gartral: if you pput in the 2x256 that work and if you put the 1x512 it works to?
[03:48] <ULFfuntu> tgr: macintel?
[03:48] <usser> tgr, powerPC or intel?
[03:48] <yosii> ok, the 3 usb was redundant
[03:48] <Gaming4JC> yosii: No ethernet (cable?)
[03:48] <tgr> oh i think powerpc
[03:48] <Gaming4JC> I don't have it either :P
[03:48] <tgr> the new mac laptops
[03:48] <gartral> nikin: i dont have a single 512... this macine used to have 128, out of wich it would only address 118
[03:49] <tgr> my friend is convinced he wants a mac now
[03:49] <ULFfuntu> tgr: new ones are intel right?
[03:49] <yosii> Gaming4JC: i said one eth
[03:49] <nikin> gartral: thats for internal video ibelieve
[03:49] <Gaming4JC> eth0
[03:49] <zerodevice> jdu, since i've accidently chmod all my entire files and folders in the hd into 755 on ubuntu 8.04 what will happen if i put in the live cd 8.10 to install on top of it. will all my files be gone? will the new installed 8.10 resets the permission back to default?
[03:49] <Gaming4JC> hmm
[03:49] <test34-> #ubuntu-1 for 8.10 ?
[03:49] <gartral> nikin: the board seems to not like the last 10 megs of ram (probably hardware addresses)
[03:49] <jamesjr> AMERICA BARBIE ! ~ http://www.myconfinedspace.com/watermark.php?src=wp-content/uploads/tdomf/74686/image001.jpg
[03:49] <N1gh7m4r3> hi all, trying to share my music folder with the other users of my pc, i have the share enabled, but when i go to their profile and open rythymbox, and import folder, all of the songs aren't imported, but some are.
[03:49] <gartral> nikin: the board has no internal video
[03:49]  * Gaming4JC Can't wait for Jaunty Jackelope!!
[03:50] <nikin> gartral: no integrated video on the board?
[03:50] <ULFfuntu> also sometimes on those older boards the banks matter.. like single or double
[03:50] <mmmyummytreats> aaaanyone able to help me out? I can't active the broadcom b43 legacy driver (it just sits and hangs and gives up) on my laptop even after installing the proprietary firmware :( :( (:
[03:50] <Gaming4JC> imagine the desktop image of that thing, a horned rabbit rofl..
[03:50] <gartral> nikin: your correct
[03:50] <TheFunkbomb> Could someone help me with setting up samba?  Here is a link to a post I made.  It explains it better than I can here.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7079710
[03:50] <Gaming4JC> well
[03:50] <yosii> Gaming4JC: and i'm connected on wifi now, but moving and not sure how good my access will be when i move
[03:50] <ULFfuntu> mmmyummytreats: has the nic ever worked properly before?
[03:50] <Gaming4JC> ah ok yosii
[03:50] <nikin> gartal : can you give me the exact name of the board you use?
[03:50] <mmmyummytreats> i'm sorry what's nic?
[03:50] <Gaming4JC> then linuxant is best
[03:51] <gartral> ULFfuntu: i have 4 b slots, 2 banks
[03:51] <ULFfuntu> network card
[03:51] <Ienorand> Gaming4JC: No wired net?
[03:51] <tgr> i am not sure
[03:51] <Gaming4JC> if it works for you, you can just buy the driver.
[03:51] <ULFfuntu> gartral: SDRAM right?
[03:51] <Gaming4JC> hmm Ienorand?
[03:51] <mmmyummytreats> i've never been able to get it to work in intrepid sinc ei installed it, but it's always worked fine in windows
[03:51] <Gaming4JC> I got Dial-up
[03:51] <yosii> Gaming4JC: yeah, if it works, and i end up needing it, i will
[03:51] <ULFfuntu> mmmyummytreats: ok good ... lemme think
[03:51] <Gaming4JC> If it doesn't invest in a USB Modem.
[03:51] <gartral> ULFfuntu: i have a bank for SDram, and a bank for ddr1, right now, i have only DDR
[03:52] <Gaming4JC> Don't go for satellite internet
[03:52] <CheesyWeasel> My sound suddenly stopped working. I can't hear anything. I restarted, and it fixed the problem for about five minutes. How do I repair my situation?
[03:52] <Gaming4JC> it's slower than slow
[03:52] <ULFfuntu> gartral: thats fine... it's not a bank problem then
[03:52] <Gaming4JC> and doesn't connect half the time
[03:52] <tritium> !enter | Gaming4JC
[03:52] <yosii> Gaming4JC: where i'm going, satellite internet isn't an option
[03:52] <stupendo44> help!! I lost a file with the mv command. Not sure what happened to it. I was trying to rename a couple files, and instead the first one disappeared.
[03:52] <Ienorand> Gaming4JC: yosii: I was just hearing you saying things about no wired net (bug)... which I had in Ibex as well, dunno if I heard wrong?
[03:52] <jdu> stupendo44, what was the mv command?
[03:52] <mmmyummytreats> i added the new intrepid-cafuego thing to the source file like the guide told me to do... do i need to restart or something?
[03:52] <test34-> stupendo44, use find
[03:52] <ULFfuntu> mmmyummytreats: just for the heck of it try another livecd.. another distro... verify that it doesn't hang with that
[03:52] <mmmyummytreats> ps thank you ULF!
[03:53] <gartral> ulfusomeone asked for the boards name, who was it, and how do i find that?
[03:53] <ULFfuntu> np
[03:53] <jdu> stupendo44, was the second argument a directory?
[03:53] <yosii> not having that problem
[03:53] <stupendo44> I think the command was "mv *.txt *." I'm pretty sure. Then it showed a newline with a ">" like it was expecting more, and I just hit enter
[03:53] <ULFfuntu> mmmyummytreats: bc nics should work fine
[03:53] <N1gh7m4r3> have you tried ndiswrapper mmmyummytreats?
[03:53] <gartral> someone asked for the boards name, who was it, and how do i find that? <repost with no typo
[03:53] <nikin> gartral: i asked... its written on the board :(
[03:53] <mmmyummytreats> n1, i was told that i don't need ndswrapper, i have intrepid
[03:53] <stupendo44> find and locate won't find the file
[03:53] <gartral> nikin: no its not
[03:53] <mmmyummytreats> i thought it should be fine
[03:53] <yosii> where did lenorad go?
[03:53] <aeonoris> I'm trying to set my default sound device in Jaunty Jackalope, but 'asoundconf set-default-card Headset' doesn't work.  The headset itself works fine on Skype due to the fact that I can tell Skype which device to use in the options menu, so it isn't a hardware/drivers problem....  Anybody have any ideas?
[03:53] <mmmyummytreats> ULF ummm i don't have another livecd... is there any easier way to get to the bottom fo this?
[03:54] <mmmyummytreats> i mean like i'm definitely wililng to try
[03:54] <yosii> brb, this driver screwed with my sound, rebooting
[03:54] <gartral> nikin: the board just says "ASUS Dragon 1 series
[03:54] <N1gh7m4r3> i'm no expert man was justy asking, cus i've read it helps with nic problems
[03:54] <nikin> gartral: ok let me google around a bit
[03:54] <ULFfuntu> mmmyummytreats: well ok... have you tried reinstall?
[03:54] <N1gh7m4r3> anyone got any ideas on the music share?
[03:54] <mmmyummytreats> yeah i think that worked in earlier versions but AFAIK things are supposed to be easier with newer ubuntus :/
[03:54] <gartral> nikin: its circa 2001
[03:54] <stupendo44> jdu, no I was trying to rename, so I thought I could use the asterisk. I think the second argument was '*.\'
[03:55] <mmmyummytreats> um to be honest ULF i'm super nooby and installed using wubi and i'm kinda afraid but i guess i can try
[03:55] <gartral> nikin: i really should upgrade, but im flat broke
[03:55] <stupendo44> jdu, what would the backslash do?
[03:55] <N1gh7m4r3> yeah i've had almost no problems with drivers so far
[03:55] <ULFfuntu> mmmyummytreats: lemme think abit
[03:55] <mmmyummytreats> ok thanks
[03:55] <ULFfuntu> mmmyummytreats: what happens exactly
[03:55] <mmmyummytreats> i'm just not sure why it would like, have never ever worked from the beginning
[03:55] <mmmyummytreats> um
[03:55] <mmmyummytreats> what has always happened
[03:55] <mmmyummytreats> is that i go to system--> hardware drivers
[03:55] <jdu> stupendo44, backslashes allow escape characters,  it expected something to come after it.
[03:55] <mmmyummytreats> and it says
[03:56] <FloodBot1> mmmyummytreats: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:56] <N1gh7m4r3> O.o does noone here share music across profiles?
[03:56] <homecable> how do i setup a proxy server so i can use it to suf at work
[03:56] <ULFfuntu> N1gh7m4r3: whaz that :)
[03:56] <CheesyWeasel> My sound suddenly stopped working. I can't hear anything. I restarted, and it fixed the problem for about five minutes. How do I fix this?
[03:56] <jdu> stupendo44, it would be better to use rename
[03:56] <stupendo44> jdu, but since I didn't enter anything, what happened?
[03:56] <N1gh7m4r3> i'm haing a problem sharing music across profiles
[03:56] <ULFfuntu> i dunno
[03:56] <mmmyummytreats> ULf: sorry hang on about to tell you
[03:56] <usser> N1gh7m4r3, create a group, add all users to that common group, sudo chown yourself:commongroupname -R /path/to/folder/with/music
[03:57] <ULFfuntu> yeah
[03:57] <dylnuge> I have two suspicious lines in my /etc/passwd I haven't seen before. Are these ligimitate system users?
[03:57] <usser> N1gh7m4r3, sudo chmod g+s -R /path/to/folder/with/music
[03:57] <gartral> CheesyWeasel: what sound server are you trying to use?
[03:57] <dylnuge> landscape:x:121:65534:Landscape Client Daemon,,,:/var/lib/landscape:/bin/false chipcard:x:122:135:Chipcard-Tools Daemon Account,,,:/var/run/chipcard:/bin/false
[03:57] <N1gh7m4r3> tyvm usser
[03:57] <jdu> studpendo44,  I'm not sure.  perhaps a new line character or a literal \
[03:57] <ULFfuntu> brb
[03:57] <gartral> nikin: i lied, the board has a built in 8mb gfx card
[03:58] <Gaming4JC> well
[03:58] <dylnuge> I don't remember installing anything called that, but it could have been installed with something else I use
[03:58] <usser> N1gh7m4r3, substitute yourself with your username and commongroupname with group name all users belong to
[03:58] <Gaming4JC> g2g, cya all. ;)
[03:58] <jdu> stupendo44, at any rate, how were you trying to rename things.
[03:58] <jdu> ?
[03:58] <stupendo44> jdu, well I wasn't root, so it could copy to root
[03:58] <stupendo44> jdu, I thought I could use 'mv *.txt *' to remove the .txt extension
[03:59] <usser> N1gh7m4r3, oh almost forgot edit /etc/profile and change umask from 022 to 002
[03:59] <wall-e_> anyone use ubuntu jaunty 9.x?
[03:59] <jdu> stupendo44, that doesn't work.  It move all files ending with .txt into all directories.
[03:59] <wall-e_> im wondering why i cant drag and drop on the desktop?
[03:59] <yosii> wall-e_: questions on jaunty are to be asked in #ubuntu+1
[03:59] <stupendo44> jdu, well, it gave me an error
[03:59] <CheesyWeasel> gartral: I don't know. How do I check?
[03:59] <gartral> wall-e_: Jaunty is the code name for Ubuntu 9.04, wich will be release April 23rd, 2009
[04:00] <jdu> stupendo44, try     rename 's/\.txt$//' *.txt
[04:00] <wall-e_> i see
[04:00] <nikin> gartral: thats the RAM you are missing
[04:00] <btube> mememe
[04:00] <yosii> wall-e_: but I AM using jaunty, what's up?
[04:00] <ULFfuntu> b
[04:00] <btube> g'nite
[04:00] <nikin> gartral: he 10 megs
[04:00] <stupendo44> jdu, thanks. I'm still trying to find where this file went
[04:01] <jdu> stupendo44, that command will strip .txt from all files in current directory ending with .txt
[04:01] <wall-e_> why cant i drag drop on desktop
[04:01] <wall-e_> or rightclick
[04:01] <FloridaGuy> im runing a ubuntu based distro..if i install the ubuntu-desktop package.....is it still the distro i installed or ubuntu
[04:01] <mmmyummytreats> ULFfuntu, i've been waiting literally this whole time to reproduce what happens but my hardware drivers window is taking literally five minutes to do "searching for available drivers..."
[04:01] <gartral> nikin: its disabled at a hardware level though, why is it still allocating ram?!?
[04:01] <jdu> stupendo44, have you looked in directories?
[04:01] <histo_> FloridaGuy: askt he people that put together your distro.
[04:01] <buzzsaw> i am having a problem with my masquerading :-s    this is what i have done http://pastebin.com/m4dec23fa could some one lend a hand?
[04:02] <ULFfuntu> mmmyummytreats: ok if you do a: lsmod | grep BCM(whatever) what happens
[04:02] <stupendo44> jdu, yeah, I've looked everywhere I can think of
[04:02] <gartral> nikin: anyway, back to core issues, whats a good AGP card, with a decent GPU and ram?
[04:02] <nikin> gartral: i didnt find anything on googlebout your board. idont know why it is allocating... i think thosethings depend on chipset
[04:02] <stupendo44> jdu, it definitely doesn't have the same filename as before
[04:02] <jdu> stupendo44, you said you put . at the beginning.  try  ls -a
[04:02] <Kangarooo> FloridaGuy: if u installed xubuntu and will install Ubuntu-Desktop then then u will have ubuntu.. Then if u install Xubuntu-Desktop you wont have Ubuntu youll get Xubungu
[04:02] <aeonoris> FloridaGuy, it sounds like a little of both.
[04:02] <ULFfuntu> gartral: any nvidia past 5000 series
[04:02] <FloridaGuy> histo_: if i could find a irc channel for ubuntu ultimate edition i would
[04:02] <nikin> gartral: decent !=AGP
[04:02] <stupendo44> jdu, I'm trying to reproduce it now to see if I can see where it went
[04:02] <stupendo44> jdu, trying it on files I DON't care about
[04:03] <nikin> gartral: i mean i had a Geforce6600 with a 2.0 Celeron and 1 gig RAM... and most games where CPU limited
[04:03] <tgr> how long do you think that it would take a beginner to learn how to use ubuntu?
[04:03] <Kangarooo> FloridaGuy: ouh... then i think you will everything what is installed and Ubuntu
[04:03] <ULFfuntu> tgr: :0
[04:03] <mmmyummytreats> ulffuntu: nothing hapened.
[04:03] <stupendo44> jdu, I tried that. There no new . files
[04:04] <zerodevice> hi everyone, since i've accidently chmod all my entire files and folders in the hd into 755 on ubuntu 8.04 what will happen if i put in the live cd 8.10 to install on top of it. will all my files be gone? will the new installed 8.10 resets the permission back to default?
[04:04] <sebsebseb> tgr: not  that long for the basics,  if someone such as myself helps you with that
[04:04] <ULFfuntu> mmmyummytreats: ok, if you just do an lsmod and look for a bcm...
[04:04] <mmmyummytreats> ULF: just to clarify, i typed "lsmod | grep BCM4309" is that what you wanted?
[04:04] <nikin> gartral: even the 6600 GT is not an AGP card originaly... the chip is PCIE and it has a chipon board that transltes to AGP.
[04:04] <ULFfuntu> yeah
[04:05] <FloridaGuy> Kangarooo: it would still be the ultimate edition then plus the ubuntu desktop
[04:05] <jdu> stupendo44, and not in other directories either?
[04:05] <CheesyWeasel> My sound suddenly stopped working. I can't hear anything. I restarted, and it fixed the problem for about five minutes. How do I fix this?
[04:05] <ULFfuntu> CheesyWeasel: what did you load before it went bonkers?
[04:05] <sebsebseb> tgr: also this is a start http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:05] <CheesyWeasel> ULFfuntu: YouTube.
[04:06] <CheesyWeasel> ULFfuntu: It worked for a video, then didn't for the next.
[04:06] <mmmyummytreats> ULF: nothign happened when i typed lsmod | grep BCM4309 but i typed lsmod and i see b43legacy several times. don't think i see BCM....
[04:06] <ULFfuntu> CheesyWeasel: ok has YouTube workd ok on this rig before?
[04:06] <CheesyWeasel> ULFfuntu: Many times.
[04:06] <ULFfuntu> mmmyummytreats: ok good
[04:06] <ULFfuntu> CheesyWeasel: ok good
[04:06] <ULFfuntu> CheesyWeasel: ok restart and see if it goes out agaoin
[04:06] <nikin> gartral: but it depends on the pourpose anyhow... if you want to run second life... just get a 6600 or an 5700 ...
[04:06] <zerodevice> does new ubuntu installation 8.10 resets and fix any problems without removing my data files?
[04:07] <jdu> stupendo44, check your other files.  did you overwrite them?
[04:07] <CheesyWeasel> ULFfuntu: I already did. It fixes the problem temporarily.
[04:07] <ULFfuntu> mmmyummytreats: ok verify what is the chipset on this wireless nic for sure
[04:07] <stupendo44> jdu, no there was only one other one, and it's fine. hold on, I think I'm onto something
[04:07] <ULFfuntu> CheesyWeasel: ok, verify that your flash is uptodate
[04:07] <nikin> zerodevice: reinstalling normaly doesnt touch your peronal files unless you format the drive... but backing up is allwas the first and only best sure solution
[04:08] <stupendo44> jdu, I think I might have done '.*\' as the second parameter. I just did it again and the files disappeared and I got an error
[04:08] <CheesyWeasel> ULFfuntu: Well, after the sound died, all my sound is dead. I can't hear anything, not mp3s, not oggs, not video. Would flash kill all that?
[04:08] <ULFfuntu> no
[04:08] <zgmf-x42s> hey all, anyone know a good, VERY DETAILED online instruction to setting up shared folders with Sun xVM and Win Xp???  i cant get usb to work, so i need to go tthat route.  thanks!
[04:08] <mmmyummytreats> ULFfuntu how specifically do i do that? i'm sorry.
[04:08] <ULFfuntu> i don't think
[04:08] <jdu> stupendo44, what was the error?
[04:08] <stupendo44> mv: cannot move `.' to `../.': Device or resource busy
[04:09] <ULFfuntu> mmmyummytreats: ok this nic for sure is BCM(whatever)
[04:09] <zerodevice> nikin. does reinstallation fix the system's permission problem? coz i chmod all the entired file to 777 and obviously thats not a good idea, but only that i can access to the gui normally
[04:09] <stupendo44> jdu, but that must have been after it already moved the files to where it was going to
[04:09] <jdu> stupendo44, ah,  there is a dir called .. an it tried to move into it.
[04:09] <ULFfuntu> mmmyummytreats: because BCM is very solid in linux IMHO
[04:09] <mmmyummytreats> ULFfuntu i can paste (or whatever pasting thing you guys do here) my lspci if you want
[04:09] <stupendo44> jdu, but if it failed on that it never would have deleted them would it?
[04:09] <ULFfuntu> mmmyummytreats: sure
[04:09] <nikin> zerodevice: iwould backup everything and then make a clean reinstall.
[04:10] <nikin> zerodevice: idont know ifit fixes them ..never tried
[04:10] <mmmyummytreats> what's the name of that paste website again?
[04:10] <jdu> stupendo44, what was the name of the original file?
[04:10] <ULFfuntu> ha.. just what are those lsmod for BCM
[04:11] <stupendo44> jdu, file.txt
[04:11] <gartral> nikin ULFfuntu; i dont have a free pci port, no pcie whatso ever, and i saw a Passive 9800gt that supposedly dosnt strain the cpu (AGP)
[04:11] <ULFfuntu> killer
[04:11] <gartral> !who | ULFfuntu
[04:11] <nikin> gartral: if you hve moneyto waste...itsok... 6600 and 5700 are also available in AGP
[04:12] <jdu> stupendo44, it is in the dir one up   so in ..
[04:12] <gartral> nikin: but are they passive
[04:13] <jdu> stupendo44, the error did not actually occur when moving the file there
[04:13] <nikin> gartral:i have seen passive 6600s but i dont know if there are passive 5700s.. but a big quality heatsink makes anything passive :D
[04:14] <stupendo44> jdu, this file was in my home directory, so .. would be /home, and I don't see anything there
[04:14] <mmmyummytreats> ULF sorry that took so long here's lsmod and lspci for you http://paste.ubuntu.com/151827/
[04:14] <gbear14275> I installed thunderbird for email but keep getting prompted to setup an evolution account when I click on email addy's, went to uninstall evolution but says there are dependencies... if I uninstall evolution what (if anything) will I break?
[04:14] <ULFfuntu> nikin: i'm pretty sure there aren't any passive 5700s :)
[04:14] <Flannel> stupendo44: It'd be in /home/user/ (where user is your username)
[04:15] <jdu> stupendo44, you don't have write permissions in /home but when I did it it went back one and gave the same error
[04:15] <stupendo44> Flannel, that's where it started
[04:15] <nikin> ULFfuntu: i was thinking the same of the 6600GT line.. til i have come across one.... :D
[04:15] <jdu> stupendo44, it did in a dir called ~/mytest and it went to ~
[04:15] <jvrmrtn> ç
[04:15] <stupendo44> jdu, the same file, filename untouched?
[04:15] <jdu> stupendo44, yes
[04:16] <stupendo44> jdu, ok, let me tell you how I'm testing, and what happens
[04:16] <stupendo44> jdu, cause I'm getting a different result
[04:16] <nikin> ULFfuntu: but anyhow i stil think that even those are overkill for the mensioned configuarion
[04:16] <ULFfuntu> mmmyummytreats: my gut feeling is that not all the vegetables are loading up...
[04:16] <jv|rmrt|n> hola
[04:16] <zgmf-x42s> hey all, anyone know a good, VERY DETAILED online instruction to setting up shared folders with Sun xVM and Win Xp???  i cant get usb to work, so i need to go tthat route.  thanks!
[04:16] <mmmyummytreats> ULF what do i do.
[04:16] <eseven73> !es | jv|rmrt|n
[04:16] <ULFfuntu> mmmyummytreats: go to lib folder and tell me when you are there
[04:17] <stupendo44> jdu, I created a test directory in my home/user directory, and touched 3 txt files inside. so I've got ~\test\test1.txt, test2.txt, and test3.txt
[04:17] <eseven73> zgmf-x42s, for the usb issue, make sure you're user is in the vboxuser group
[04:17] <elitecoder> I installed mysql-server, I'm trying to remove it and re-install it so it sets up the tables again but it's not getting rid of the files it installed
[04:17] <eseven73> had that same prob last week
[04:17] <jdu> stupendo44, ok    / is better form than \ by the way
[04:17] <nikin> 5:17 .. gota go work... have some fun
[04:17] <yaris1234567891> hey guys is there any way to chat wtth someone one on one....encrypted, so no one can sniff.
[04:17] <zgmf-x42s> eseven73: omg.... i cant believe i forgot to configure that, i bet thats the reason....
[04:18] <mmmyummytreats> ULF i'm there.
[04:18] <ULFfuntu> :)
[04:18] <zgmf-x42s> ugh
[04:18] <stupendo44> jdu, then I ran mv *.txt .*\       it gave me a newline with a >      I hit enter and I get the error that I mentioned earlier, and I can find the text files anywhere. Not in ~, not anywhere
[04:18] <zgmf-x42s> lol
[04:18] <elitecoder> when I try to remove it, it just seems to leave everything. Is there a way I can get rid of what it installed? all the configs and everything it copied in
[04:18] <ULFfuntu> ok
[04:18] <eseven73> it is the reason ;)
[04:18] <ULFfuntu> mmmyummytreats: PM me
[04:18] <stupendo44> jdu, yeah, the backslash was a mistake. too much windows use
[04:18] <jdu> stupendo44, easy to do, let me do it exactly as you said
[04:18] <eseven73> zgmf-x42s, also sometimes the group GUI thingy will say you're in it's group, but you have to put that check mark
[04:19] <jdu> stupendo44, except I already have ~/test  so I will use ~/test1
[04:19] <stupendo44> jdu, actually you don't have to use *.txt as the first parameter, you can just do each file by itself so you get 3 chances. does the same thing
[04:20] <yosii> question...does this usb modem you guys are referring to work well outside north america?
[04:20] <zgmf-x42s> eseven73: thanks man, i cant believe i forgot that, lol, should work now, going to try it out
[04:20] <eseven73> zgmf-x42s, if you click on your name, then click manage groups, you'll see the check marks I was referring too
[04:20] <eseven73> ok good luck :)
[04:20] <jdu> stupendo44, when I ran 'ls -1 | grep test' while in ~,  they were there
[04:21] <stupendo44> jdu, yeah, hold on. I might have made a mistake in my test
[04:21] <stupendo44> jdu, one sec
[04:22] <jdu> stupendo44, I did:        mkdir test1; cd test1; touch text1.txt; ls; touch text2.txt text3.txt; mv *.txt .*\
[04:22] <stupendo44> jdu, yeah you did the same thing I did, and the same result. you're right, the files are there i ~
[04:22] <disappearedng> Hey everyone, when I start my computer I have to manually startx to get into my GUI. Any ideas why?
[04:22] <stupendo44> I was going too fast when I looked before. Unfortunately, this doesn't answer my question
[04:23] <jdu> stupendo44, good so both problems solved.  You know where they are and than you can use rename in the future to strip .txt
[04:23] <stupendo44> jdu. not exactly
[04:23] <stupendo44> jdu, I still don't know where the other file went. Let me run some more tests. The original problem started in ~, and although it shouldn't have moved the file, it did. somewhere
[04:24] <gartral> nikin: my problem with passive is that i have less than in inch between AGP and PCI banks
[04:24] <jdu> stupendo44, good point.  I think it tried to move it back and failed
[04:25] <disappearedng> How do I get into X automatically when I start u
[04:25] <disappearedng> up
[04:25] <jdu> disappearedng, add gdm to your runlevel
[04:25] <redvamp128> quick question -- is irc.ubuntu down ?
[04:25] <gartral> howabout a 6800GT?
[04:26] <jdu> disappearedng, or perhaps that is not your problem.
[04:26] <OmnipotentEntity> So I set up a chroot, and I'm having some issues getting it to connect to my X server, what do I need to ensure I have in order to connect to my XServer located at either :0 or :1?
[04:26] <byxorna> hey, does anyone know why "host localhost" hangs and does not return on a installation of server 8.10????
[04:27] <byxorna> it acts like it is not reading /etc/hosts at all... (also this is on a internal net, no DNS/outside contact)
[04:27] <jdu> bytor4232, doesn't on mine
[04:27] <disappearedng> ls
[04:27] <jdu> bytor4232, sorry not on server install
[04:28] <la_ola> does 64bit flash use the GPU? after watching a fullscreen flash video my GPU temp is up
[04:28] <disappearedng> jdu: Ok how do I do that?
[04:28] <jdu> disappearedng, how do you have ubuntu installed so that x isn't starting?
[04:29] <byxorna> jdu, thx... i dk what the prob is...
[04:29] <disappearedng> jdu: I didn't
[04:29] <jdu> disappearedng, I mean, was it a commandline system etc.   and what is the output of runlevel
[04:29] <disappearedng> jdu: it just became like that and I have to do a manual startx every time I log in
[04:30] <CodeMunkee> ?
[04:30] <jdu> disappearedng,  ok, so not hard to fix.  you are probably just entering the wrong runlevel or one that does not start gdm.  try:  runlevel and post output
[04:31] <CodeMunkee> quit
[04:31] <disappearedng> jdu: ok
[04:31] <disappearedng> jdu: N 2
[04:32] <jdu> disappearedng, ok, that is normal.  what is the output of ls /etc/rc2.d | grep gdm
[04:34] <yosii> anyone decent with jack on an intel hda setup?
[04:34] <d58> has anyone heard of studio 64?
[04:34] <disappearedng> jdu: nothing:
[04:34] <d58> well 64 studio, sorry
[04:34] <quantum> hi there
[04:35] <abama> ULFfuntu: it can't directly resize the ubuntu partition in vmware?
[04:35] <ULFfuntu> abama: hi, lemme get back to you :) awhile\
[04:35] <jdu> disappearedng, that is expected.  to fix it run:  sudo ln -s ../init.d/gdm /etc/rc2.d/S30gdm
[04:36] <jdu> disappearedng, there is a space between gdm an /etc
[04:36] <abama> ULFfuntu: exactly to say, resize the ubuntu partition in vmware-player
[04:37] <jdu> disappearedng, but perhaps your irc client didn't carry it to a new line like mine.... so it would be obvious that there is a space
[04:37] <OmnipotentEntity> So I set up a chroot, and I'm having some issues getting it to connect to my X server, what do I need to ensure I have in order to connect to my XServer located at either :0 or :1?
[04:38] <disappearedng> jdu: where do you want me to carry this out
[04:38] <jdu> disappearedng, in /etc/rc2.d
[04:38] <jdu> sorry
[04:39] <jdu> disappearedng, actually it doesn't matter
[04:39] <disappearedng> ok jdu a few problems:
[04:39] <disappearedng> /etc/rc2.d/S30gdm doesn't exist
[04:39] <jdu> disappearedng, that is the point,  that command will create it
[04:39] <disappearedng> or either /etc/init.d/gdm doesn't exist
[04:39] <jdu> disappearedng, oh, then it won't work
[04:39] <jdu> disappearedng, try   sudo apt-get install gdm then
[04:40] <disappearedng> ok installing
[04:40] <CheesyWe1sel> My sound suddenly stopped working. I can't hear anything. I restarted, and it fixed the problem for about five minutes. How do I fix this?
[04:40] <jdu> disappearedng, oh the simple solution ....
[04:40] <disappearedng> jdu: ?
[04:40] <cicatric> hey guys
[04:41] <jdu> disappearedng, oh installing it is much simpler and obvious rather than a missing symlink though both are possible causes
[04:41] <yosii> CheesyWe1sel: i'd suggest you run sudo alsaconf
[04:41] <cicatric> i got a question: i want to write/compile C++ on ubuntu what is the best / easiest but pretty efficient way of doing so?
[04:41] <kohlrak> i make a simple HTML page on my apache webserver to upload a file, but it doesn't give me any error messages, nor can i find the file that i tried uploading. Google doesn't seem to be able to find a decent "configure apache to allow downloads" tutorial. Anyone know what to do?
[04:41] <disappearedng> jdu: thx man
[04:41] <CheesyWe1sel> yosii: I'm trying something now, if that doesn't work, I'll try yours.
[04:41] <sagredo> can someone please help me with latex? I tex resume.tex and stderror outputs: ! Undefined control sequence.
[04:41] <jdu> disappearedng, did it work?  it should have created S30gdm by itself on install
[04:41] <sagredo> l.3 \documentclass [margin,line]{res}
[04:42] <yosii> CheesyWe1sel: just going on my knowledge of setting up audio in a tougher linux distro
[04:42] <KillerOrca> Hi, I am using acidrip to try and rip dvds, but it won't let me rip to the 2nd HDD I have installed, how do I make it do that?
[04:42] <emerson> hi
[04:42] <bimmerhead> hi, i was just wondering, does the 64bit version of ubuntu run on a centrino 2?
[04:42] <emerson> how do I install free pascal in my machine ?
[04:42] <CheesyWe1sel> yosii: I don't have alsaconf.
[04:42] <disappearedng> jdu: yeah it did thx
[04:42] <manpoole> what are some of your favorite applications and tweeks to install on ubuntu after a fresh install?
[04:42] <disappearedng> jdu: I also have a problem with auto mounitng
[04:43] <jdu> disappearedng, good, np,  really?
[04:43] <disappearedng> jdu: When I plugin my devices it doesn't mount automatically
[04:43] <CheesyWe1sel> yosii: And sudo apt-get install alsaconf doesn't work.
[04:43] <disappearedng> is it because I started x manually hence in different priority level>
[04:43] <yosii> CheesyWe1sel: it'd be in the alsa-tools package
[04:43] <jdu> disappearedng, hmm  what types of devices?
[04:43] <disappearedng> jdu: actually why did my gdm disappear?
[04:43] <disappearedng> jdu: like any usb devices
[04:44] <cicatric> i got a question: i want to write/compile C++ on ubuntu what is the best / easiest but pretty efficient way of doing so?
[04:44] <jdu> disappearedng, good question, but it may mean other things disappeared too (causing symptoms such as as no automounting)  is hal working?
[04:44] <Marcham89> manpoole: aTunes, armagetronad, drive-manager, ummm... Truecrpyt
[04:44] <cicatric> like is there a nice simple dev cpp for ubuntu?
[04:44] <RedMushroom> i'm trying to setup 'user manager' for pure-ftpd, and i'm followind directions included with the setup. the directions are telling me to edit my pure-ftpd.conf file, and my pureftpd-mysql.conf file. the directions tell me that these files are going to be somewhere, but it'll vary depending on my os. i copy/pasted the directions i'm following at http://pastebin.com/m793a038e the part that i'm confused about is starting at line #5 an
[04:44] <emerson> hello anyone knows how to install free pascal ? I have to make a exam soon and I have to learn it as soos as possible...
[04:44] <jdu> sagredo, use latex,  not tex
[04:44] <disappearedng> jdu: how do I find out if hal is workign?
[04:44] <jdu> sagredo, I often run:   pdflatex
[04:45] <indra> where can i find more music tools for ubuntu
[04:45] <sagredo> jdu: you are my personal savior
[04:45] <manpoole> going to go google each one
[04:45] <jdu> disappearedng, pgrep -l hal
[04:45] <sagredo> jdu: how did I forget? *slaps head*
[04:45] <cicatric> anyone compile cpp on ubuntu?
[04:45] <cwillu> cicatric, you know about build-essential?
[04:45] <cicatric> nop :(
[04:45] <adodell> hey hoping someone can help me.  If i leave my ubuntu machine for a while i get disconnected from the network. Rebooting the machine works every time, but i'd like to be able to do it without rebooting the whole machine. just temporarily disable and re-enable networking. I've tried ifdown - ifup and it didn't work. Any other s
[04:45] <jdu> sagredo, its easy to do, though you could do everything in tex ;)
[04:45] <cwillu> !build
[04:46] <Marcham89> umm try in terminal: sudo apt-get install free-pascal... but i would search the package manager
[04:46] <sagredo> jdu: pdflatex exports straight to pdf?
[04:46] <cicatric> thanks for help ugys
[04:46] <cicatric> guys
[04:46] <jdu> adodell, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:46] <jdu> sagredo, yes
[04:46] <cwillu> adodell, just disabling the network manager (right click) and re-enabling it should do the trick
[04:46] <disappearedng> jdu: http://pastebin.ca/1393495
[04:46] <emerson> hello anyone, please
[04:46] <redvamp128> I tried asking this earlier ... I am connected using freenode now but is irc.ubuntu.com down? I am having issues with connecting using pidgin.
[04:46] <Lilarcor> so sayeth the wise alaundo
[04:46] <Marcham89> emerson read my comment above
[04:46] <sagredo> jdu: what's your location?
[04:47] <yaris1234567891> Question: Actionscript 3 and 3d flash applications are the new future. True or False.
[04:47] <jdu> disappearedng, so it is running in other words which means it is running
[04:47] <jdu> sagredo, Indiana
[04:47] <cwillu> emerson, Marcham89 was talking to you about that :p
[04:47] <disappearedng> jdu: yeah
[04:47] <RedMushroom> redvamp128: you can see if a server is down by using the ping program in the terminal. try "man ping"
[04:47] <cwillu> Marcham89, make sure you always include a name (tab completion is your friend :)
[04:47] <adodell> thanks for the suggestions guys. I've tried both those, and I get the green dots with the blue orbiting thing, and then it says disconnected again
[04:47] <stupendo44> jdu, what happens if you use mv with no second parameter
[04:47] <sagredo> jdu: how long have you been ubunt'in
[04:47] <jdu> disappearedng, that was a little repetitive, wasn't it :)
[04:47] <Marcham89> cwillu: i know just noticed i didnt :)
[04:47] <RedMushroom> i'm trying to setup 'user manager' for pure-ftpd, and i'm followind directions included with the setup. the directions are telling me to edit my pure-ftpd.conf file, and my pureftpd-mysql.conf file. the directions tell me that these files are going to be somewhere, but it'll vary depending on my os. i copy/pasted the directions i'm following at http://pastebin.com/m793a038e the part that i'm confused about is starting at line #5 an
[04:47] <jdu> sagredo, couple years
[04:48] <stupendo44> jdu, I think that's what I did. The file disappears. Is it deleted?
[04:48] <adodell> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart gives one line [* Reconfiguring network interfaces]
[04:48] <redvamp128> RedMushroom,  that gives me a uknown host - I was on it the other day..
[04:48] <KillerOrca> Hi, I am using acidrip to try and rip dvds, but it won't let me rip to the 2nd HDD I have installed, how do I make it do that?
[04:48] <stupendo44> jdu, and if so, and I recover it if it was just deleted?
[04:48] <manpoole> sagredo what was that graphics application you recommended I run from the terminal yesterday?
[04:48] <cwillu> RedMushroom, sorry, which line?
[04:48] <jdu> stupendo44, it should give an error
[04:49] <RedMushroom> redvamp128: well, if pinging the server returns unknown host then i'd assume the server's down. goto the ubuntu site and see if there's any information there
[04:49] <cwillu> !info fpc | emerson
[04:49] <stupendo44> jdu, it doesn't. try this. touch a txt file, and then mv it to nothing
[04:49] <RedMushroom> cwillu: #5's - 11 on that pastebin
[04:49] <RedMushroom> they're numbered
[04:49] <disappearedng> jdu: yeah =)
[04:49] <jonathon> hi everyone hey can someone tell me some good software for linux for ripping dvds?
[04:49] <adodell> any other suggestions for restarting eth1 (wired ethernet)
[04:49] <cwillu> RedMushroom, check in /etc/ or /etc/pureftpd/ or something like that
[04:49] <gartral> general opinion, would an AGP GeForce 6800GT work well on a system with 512 megs ram and a 1.7 ghz cpu?
[04:49] <bimmerhead> Stupid Question: For a machine running on a Centrino 2, should I download the 32-bit version, or will the 64-bit version work?
[04:49] <jdu> stupendo44, I get mv: missing destination file operand after `oaeuou.txt'
[04:49] <disappearedng> jdu brb
[04:49] <RedMushroom> cwillu: k, just a moment.
[04:49] <jdu> disappearedng, sorry
[04:50] <emerson> can I istall using the terminal ?
[04:50] <Marcham89> bimmerhead: I would install 32bit anyway
[04:50] <person> bimmerhead, i doubt it's a 64bit cpu so you would need 32bit
[04:50] <jdu> emerson, man apt-get
[04:50] <Hammerjak> emerson, what do you want to install?
[04:50] <stupendo44> jdu, sry. there has to be more than one file. and use *.txt
[04:50] <stupendo44> jdu, I just tested it again
[04:50] <stupendo44> jdu, if there's more than one txt file and I use 'mv *.txt ', the first one disappears
[04:51] <bimmerhead> Marcham89, person: ok, thanks guys
[04:51] <jdu> stupendo44, and overwrites the second one....
[04:51] <emerson> Hammerjak: the compiler for free pascal..
[04:51] <stupendo44> does it
[04:51] <stupendo44> does it?
[04:51] <jdu> stupendo44, I believe
[04:51] <Hammerjak> emerson, 'sudo apt-get install <app>'
[04:51] <stupendo44> jdu, you might be right
[04:52] <Hammerjak> for you, i guess it's 'sudo apt-get install fpc'
[04:52] <stupendo44> jdu, you're right, it does
[04:52] <stupendo44> jdu, next question. Is there any way to recover from this
[04:52] <RedMushroom> cwillu: i do have a /etc/pure-ftpd, but there're no .conf files in it. there's a dir named /conf, but it just has unrelated files in it
[04:52] <jdu> stupendo44, no
[04:52] <jdu> stupendo44, unless you use a different filesystem
[04:52] <stupendo44> jdu, etx3
[04:53] <jdu> stupendo44, no
[04:53] <jdu> stupendo44, If you are worried about deleting files,  add alias mv='mv -i'  to .bashrc
[04:53] <RedMushroom> i'm wondering if there was some sort of command i was supposed to run after installing pure-ftpd to get it to setup some files for itself, or something.
[04:53] <stupendo44> jdu, does the mv command physically overwrite the location on the drive?
[04:53] <jdu> stupendo44, it will prompt you in the future before you do
[04:53] <emerson> Hammerjak: yeah man it works I think sorry I'm not a programmer so that's why I didn't understoot that the first place.
[04:54] <stupendo44> jdu, well it's not like I delete things often... :)
[04:54] <Hammerjak> no problem emerson  :)
[04:54] <RedMushroom> any ideas?
[04:54] <jdu> stupendo44, maybe not so perhaps it is recoverable but I wouldn't guaranty it.
[04:54] <jdu> stupendo44, at any rate there is no undelete with ext3
[04:55] <jdu> stupendo44, for that use a filesystem that supports snapshots
[04:55] <KillerOrca> I am using acidrip to try and rip dvds, but it won't let me rip to the 2nd HDD I have installed, how do I make it do that?
[04:55] <jdu> stupendo44, or back up
[04:55] <stupendo44> jdu, that would really stink, but I guess it's reality
[04:56] <stupendo44> jdu, I had just spent an 2 hours writing this. I used ccrypt to encrypt it, but wanted to take the cpt extension off. Now look what I did... :) Guess I'll have to try to remember the last couple hours...
[04:56] <jdu> stupendo44, some filesystems like ufs support taking a snapshot.  You can then mount the snapshot and see the filesystem as it was then.
[04:56] <RedMushroom> i'm wondering if there was some sort of command i was supposed to run after installing pure-ftpd to get it to setup some files for itself, or something.
[04:56] <disappearedng> jdu: you still here? I restarted, and realize that when I plugin my usb, it says: you don't have the permission to mount this volume:
[04:56] <RedMushroom> oops
[04:57] <jdu> disappearedng, after it tries to automount?
[04:57] <celthunder> RedMushroom, no
[04:57] <jdu> stupendo44, sorry... I hate it when that happens.
[04:57] <disappearedng> I think thats because I added an entry into my /etc/fstab
[04:57] <jdu> disappearedng, that is case,  add user as an option
[04:58] <jdu> disappearedng, or users for everyone
[04:58] <disappearedng> hm.. does that introudce a security breach?
[04:58] <jdu> *the
[04:58] <jdu> disappearedng, is it a personal computer?
[04:59] <jdu> disappearedng, user doesn't really but users might.  With user, if the the stick is plugged in, anyone can mount it.
[05:00] <jdu> disappearedng, I doubt is a problem
[05:00] <jdu> disappearedng, if you are really worried about it then you can mount it as root which will require  you to do something like:  sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /mnt/point
[05:01]  * Marcham89[A] is now away - Reason : busy
[05:01] <KillerOrca> I am using acidrip to try and rip dvds, but it won't let me rip to the 2nd HDD I have installed, how do I make it do that?
[05:01] <jdu> disappearedng, stupendo44,  so it is already Thursday,  so I need to go to bed, sorry.  Do you have one last thing?
[05:02] <cubays> Hi. I just installed ubuntu on disk with Win XP and no Grub appeared. I tried recover manual but it doesnt work.Menu.lst seems to be empty.
[05:02] <cubays> Could someone giva a hint what should I do pls ?
[05:02] <tofu_logic> did you accidentally delete your windows partition?
[05:03] <jdu> cubays, make sure you check menu.list not menu.lst
[05:03] <tofu_logic> say, during installation?
[05:03] <jdu> cubays, sorry you were right
[05:03] <jdu> cubays, menu.lst
[05:03] <cubays> no.I used gparted to create ext3
[05:03] <jdu> cubays, just tired...
[05:03] <cubays> ah..I used this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:03] <cubays> there is .lst
[05:04] <cubays> anyway, I dont know how repair this problem.
[05:05] <jdu> cubays, I have to go but it sounds like you haven't installed grub
[05:05] <cubays> aye.
[05:05] <celthunder> cubays where did you select to install grub to?
[05:06] <cubays> I did not select anything.
[05:06] <cubays> every Installation of ubuntu created grub
[05:06] <celthunder> uh you didnt pick mbr, first partion of active drive...etc
[05:06] <cubays> prolly not
[05:07] <celthunder> hmm
[05:07] <celthunder> try manually adding your bootlist?
[05:07] <Cutter> hi
[05:07] <celthunder> Cutter, hi
[05:07] <cubays> How to do it?
[05:07] <byerley> Hi, I've got two computers, both running live disks and connected via lan+ssh. I'd like to copy the harddrive of one onto the other, but it's proving more difficult than I initially thought. Any ideas?
[05:07] <Cutter> what fkash plugin should I intall?
[05:07] <Cutter> *flash
[05:09] <Cutter> Adobe, swfdec or gnash?
[05:09] <wacka_mole> Byerley: Have you considered mv?
[05:09] <Cutter> which is faster/stable
[05:09] <Cutter> ?
[05:09] <celthunder> cubays edit your menu.lst and add each os each one should look something like title <osname> uuid <driveid> kernel <yourkernel> initrd (optional but if you put it put your initramfs after)
[05:10] <monskee> my filemanager in xubuntu has crashed (not responding) how do i force close it?
[05:10] <bnagy> hi there... apt broke my firefox yet again
[05:10] <noodlesgc> Cutter Adobe flash works the best and is probably most stable. However it is not open-source
[05:10] <celthunder> monskee, kill -9 <pid>
[05:10] <Cutter> ok I had stability issues with a flash plugin
[05:10] <monskee> thanks!
[05:10] <bnagy> so I uninstalled, deleted the arhived .debs and reinstalled, same thing
[05:10] <Cutter> I think it was Adobe
[05:10] <monskee> in the terminal?
[05:11] <bnagy> says firefox is not installed and I can install bu apt-get firefox-3.0
[05:11] <byerley> wacka_mole: as in the move command? I mean I can copy all the files over by mounting the drive (sda1 in this case) but I was hoping to get the boot stuff/etc as well and I can't figure out how to mount those, if it's even possible
[05:11] <celthunder> monskee, yes
[05:11] <noodlesgc> Cutter are you on 64 bit?
[05:11] <Cutter> yes
[05:12] <cubays> celthunder, ok.I will try it. Maybe the problem is that I have Win system primary partiton and Ubntu on Extended.
[05:12] <monskee> celtthunder am i being silly? i typed in kill -9 <pid> and kill -9 and it didn't work!
[05:12] <celthunder> cubays yes that would do it
[05:12] <celthunder> monskee, lol type ps and find the pid of the process and substitute the pid for the <pid> part
[05:12] <Cutter> noodlesgc: yes, why?
[05:13] <bnagy> so, is there a way to properly remove firefox?
[05:13] <monskee> ooooo
[05:13] <noodlesgc> Cutter ah, from what I understand, 64bit flash is not exactly stable
[05:13] <celthunder> monskee, ps |grep <nameofyourfilemanager> should find it
[05:13] <Cutter> ok
[05:13] <Cutter> does gnash lack any feature?
[05:15] <noodlesgc> Cutter I have used it a couple times before, and it doesn't work for all sites. I'm pretty youtube works though
[05:15] <monskee> celtthunder lol I'm just indiscriminately killing stuff! Killed the terminal first!
[05:16] <Cutter> ok thanks
[05:16] <Cutter> bye
[05:16] <celthunder> monskee um what is displayed as then ame for your process you are trying to kill (taskbar/titlebar?
[05:16] <celthunder> monskee, thunar?
[05:16] <monskee> etc - file manager
[05:16] <monskee> by-uuid - file manager
[05:16] <monskee> oh
[05:16] <celthunder> monskee, is it thunar though?
[05:16] <monskee> i think so - it's a new xubuntu install
[05:17] <celthunder> kk try ps -auxf |grep thunar
[05:17] <celthunder> and see if that returns anything
[05:17] <monskee> where's that horisontal line before grep?
[05:17] <monskee> found it
[05:18] <monskee> hasn't closed anything
[05:18] <monskee> did do something in the terminal
[05:18] <celthunder> that line shouldnt
[05:18] <celthunder> it should tell you the process
[05:18] <celthunder> ok paste the output
[05:18] <monskee> Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[05:18] <monskee> monskee   8865  0.0  0.3   3236   792 pts/0    S+   21:17   0:00  |           \_ grep thunar
[05:18] <monskee> monskee   5501  0.0  1.9  25400  4904 ?        S    18:07   0:01  \_ /usr/lib/thunar/xfce4/panel-plugins/thunar-tpa socket_id 18874439 name thunar-tpa id 4 display_name Trash Applet size 24 screen_position 11
[05:18] <FloodBot3> monskee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:18] <monskee> oh sorry
[05:19] <celthunder> monskee, kill -9 5501
[05:20] <monskee> no joy
[05:20] <monskee> kill -9 5501 did nada
[05:20] <celthunder> monskee one sec let me load xfce real quick ok?
[05:20] <monskee> ok thanks
[05:23] <bnagy> man apt is a pile sometimes :/
[05:24] <bnagy> is there a dpkg way to remove firefox and all dependencies and files, like for realZ?
[05:24] <bnagy> apt-get remove and apt-get purge seem to not remove much
[05:25] <user01> how do i upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10/
[05:25] <Flannel> !upgrade | user01
[05:25] <tritium> bnagy: remove will uninstall everything but any config files in /etc/, while purge removes everything, including config files
[05:25] <celthunder> user01 add the new repositories to your sources.list and apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:26] <Flannel> celthunder: No, that hasn't been the suggested method for a number of years now.
[05:26] <bnagy> tritium: well, purge and reinstall doesn't seem to work :)
[05:26] <Flannel> bnagy: sudo apt-get purge firefox firefox-3.0 firefox-branding firefox-3.0-branding xulrunner-1.9 ubufox
[05:26] <Flannel> bnagy: That's because "firefox" as a package doesn't install much, if anything.
[05:27] <Flannel> bnagy: It's all in firefox-3.0
[05:27] <celthunder> flannel meh i updated a system like that...though it was probably 3-4 years ago
[05:27] <Flannel> celthunder: Yes, it works, but its certainly more work than required.
[05:27] <tritium> bnagy: they work just fine.  See Flannel's comment for what you're doing wrong.
[05:27] <mjs7231_> Hey guys, question about upgrading
[05:28] <bnagy> yeah I did the same with firefox-3.0 too
[05:28] <mjs7231_> I am going from 32 to 64 bit so I know I need a full install
[05:28] <Flannel> bnagy: And what didn't get remvoed?
[05:28] <mjs7231_> so, if I copy my ~ dir I should retain all my settings?
[05:28] <mjs7231_> won't this leave crud around as well?
[05:28] <Flannel> mjs7231_: Yep
[05:28] <Ienorand> How doe I view pdf annotations in evince, they show up as annotation symbols but I cant actually read them...
[05:28] <bnagy> I think probably xulrunner
[05:28] <bnagy> again :/
[05:29] <Flannel> mjs7231_: It'll leave config files for the programs you currently have installed, but don't have installed on the new system.  But that's not the end of the world.
[05:29] <Flannel> bnagy: What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[05:29] <mjs7231_> Flannel, thanks
[05:29] <bnagy> Flannel: uh, just a working firefox, nothing obscure
[05:30] <bnagy> ok, so I ran that purge command, then apt-get install, no errors, but when I try and execute firefox it says it's not installed
[05:30] <johnf> is there a page that details the status of the ppa build queues? I've had a build in an "estimated 18 minutes" state for over an hour now.
[05:30] <mjs7231_> Flannel, I can probably manually go thru and delete stuff.. because in theory it wouldn't be there in the new system anyway.. right?
[05:30] <Flannel> bnagy: purge the aforementioned packages, and then reinstall.  But, also.. delete your user configs (well, move them).  Since those will stick around after you remove/reinstall
[05:30] <johnf> Normall things build much more quickly
[05:30] <bnagy> and there is no firefox in /usr/bin, which is probably going to be a problem :)
[05:31] <Flannel> mjs7231_: Yep  You can delete anything/everything in home without causing issues (well, unless you delete something that something else references, but I can't think of anything like that that'd be realistic)
[05:31] <mjs7231_> Flannel, Awesome.. thanks
[05:31] <Flannel> bnagy: do this: sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox-3.0 && sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:31] <Tetracomm> Good night.
[05:31] <mjs7231_> this shuoldn't be too difficult then
[05:32] <celthunder> flannel wine makees stuff in your home directory that it references ...it wont break if you delete it it just wont work...
[05:32] <mjs7231_> Flannel, last question.. no issues doing this going from 32 -> 64 bit?
[05:32] <Flannel> mjs7231_: shouldn't be, no.
[05:32] <kaveh> can someone help me with sshfs? im tryin to mount a folder from a pc on my lan, i know i have the right command because it was working before. however yesterday i restarted my pc, mounted again and the mounted folder disappeared - when i check in command line the folder is there. anyone know how i fix this?
[05:32] <mjs7231_> celthunder, I'll delete that dir anyway.. :)
[05:32] <bnagy> Flannel: I have done that about 5 times
[05:33] <bnagy> lemme try once more for fun
[05:33] <Kavindu> kaveh: check if that folder is hidden
[05:33] <kaveh> it isn't
[05:33] <Flannel> bnagy: Actually, do this: sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox-3.0 && dpkg -l | grep firefox, and then pastebin the results
[05:33] <Kavindu> you can c it in the terminal but not in nautilus ryt?
[05:34] <deepjoy> Hi I was wondering about the JauntyReleaseSchedule isn't the Release candidate supposed to be out already?
[05:34] <Flannel> deepjoy: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty questions, thanks.
[05:34] <Kavindu> deepjoy: there is 6 more days left
[05:34] <deepjoy> Flannel: thanks
[05:35] <iam8up> is the only download on the website a live cd? i'm downloading the 32bit desktop 8.10 release
[05:35] <iam8up> file name ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso