[00:27] <mup> PR snapcraft#1805 opened: lifecycle: use the -no-fragments mksquashfs option <Created by tyhicks> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1805>
[02:44] <mup> PR snapd#4396 opened: snap: use the -no-fragments mksquashfs option <Created by tyhicks> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4396>
[06:39] <mborzecki> morning
[06:56] <mup> PR snapd#4395 closed: update HACKING.md for distro build dependencies <Created by jdstrand> <Merged by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4395>
[08:03] <kalikiana> good morning
[08:08] <mborzecki> kalikiana: morning
[09:03] <Chipaca> mborzecki: o/
[09:03] <mborzecki> Chipaca: hey
[09:03] <Chipaca> mborzecki: would now be a good time to rant about the insanity of signed st_size
[09:04] <mborzecki> hahaha :) that's the ParseInt() thing?
[09:05] <Chipaca> mborzecki: yeah
[09:05] <Chipaca> mborzecki: stat64's st_size is a long long
[09:06] <Chipaca> mborzecki: stat's st_size is unsigned long (not unsigned long long)
[09:07] <Chipaca> (it's just an unsigned int on 64 bits, in fact; it's unsigned long on i386)
[09:07] <mborzecki> Chipaca: fair enough
[09:08] <Chipaca> mborzecki: and golang's os.FileInfo's Size() returns an int64
[09:08] <Chipaca> mborzecki: and i it bothers me _every_ _time_
[09:08] <Chipaca> like, who's this person going around creating negative-sized files
[09:08] <Chipaca> i'd like a word
[09:10] <pedronis> Chipaca: is there some call that returns size_t directly, usually the reason is to mark errors as -1
[09:10] <mborzecki> Chipaca: can you add a comment there in the code? just in case someone stubles on it in the future
[09:10] <Chipaca> pedronis: getuid reutrns unsigned ints, and uses -1 as a flag value
[09:11] <Chipaca> mborzecki: psh. comments. what's next, *tests*?
[09:11] <Chipaca> pedronis: but, yeah, probably
[09:11] <mborzecki> Chipaca: nah, tests you can skip
[09:11] <Chipaca> pedronis: and I guess the feeling is if reaching the limit of 63 bits is close, 64 bits is just as close
[09:11] <Chipaca> mborzecki: :-D
[09:11] <Chipaca> mborzecki: i'm quoting you on that one
[09:13]  * Chipaca looks forward to having 20EB sd cards
[09:15] <pedronis> Chipaca: also defining off_t would be hard
[09:16] <mborzecki> Chipaca: i'm doing a meetup on go at my local group today, will reference both golang bugs that you found (geteuid and syscalls that must fail, even if they don't)
[09:16] <Chipaca> mborzecki: heh
[09:17] <Chipaca> mborzecki: those are mundane compared to the threading one :-) but ok!
[09:17] <mborzecki> i'll be showing the actual bits of go's asm that are responsible
[09:18] <Chipaca> pedronis: are you reviewing that PR? just asking to know if i should wait before pushing the changes
[09:18] <pedronis> Chipaca: no, I don't even know what PR you are talking about, I need a belated breakfast actually :)
[09:19] <Chipaca> pedronis: breakfast >> reviews
[09:32]  * kalikiana coffee break
[09:38] <JamieBennett> Any idea why none of my snaps can save settings? Happening with Corebird and Mailspring. I'll change settings, they will be reflected in the UI but not saved. When I go back to the settings of the app the old values are still there.
[09:51] <pstolowski> JamieBennett, any denials in the logs?
[09:56] <sergiusens> JamieBennett check ownership of files/dirs in ~/snap
[09:57] <JamieBennett> pstolowski: Only denial I see is this but it looks unrelated: Dec 13 09:37:00 ubik kernel: [ 1876.976847] audit: type=1107 audit(1513157820.788:1187): pid=1834 uid=106 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='apparmor="DENIED" operation="dbus_method_call"  bus="system" path="/" interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.ObjectManager" member="GetManagedObjects" mask="send" name="org.bluez" pid=10850
[09:57] <JamieBennett> label="snap.mailspring.mailspring" peer_pid=1820 peer_label="unconfined"
[09:57] <pstolowski> right, seems unrelated
[09:58] <JamieBennett> sergiusens: permissions looks OK too
[09:58] <JamieBennett> It's strange
[10:00] <pstolowski> JamieBennett, also, does it create any (possibly hidden) files in ~/snap/.. as you modify & save settings? 'find ~/snap` before and after might give a clue
[10:00] <mborzecki> hmm corebird seems to work just fine here, the settings are preserved and i can actually see then on d-conf
[10:01] <JamieBennett> Seems I am getting quite a few denied messages for dbus
[10:02] <JamieBennett> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26175781/
[10:02] <mborzecki> JamieBennett: anything with ca.desrt.dconf ?
[10:08] <JamieBennett> Even stranger, if I change settings then close Corebird and reopen, the new settings are there.
[10:08] <mborzecki> JamieBennett: stat `dconf watch /org/baedert/corebird/` and run corebird, change some settings, you should see dconf watch listing updaated keys
[10:08] <Chipaca>  if [ ! -e $(ls -1 /var/lib/snapd/snaps/ubuntu-core_*.snap | tail -1) ]; then exit 1; fi
[10:08]  * Chipaca wonders
[10:09] <JamieBennett> mborzecki: nothing
[10:10] <JamieBennett> Chipaca: ls: cannot access '/var/lib/snapd/snaps/ubuntu-core_*.snap': No such file or directory
[10:10] <Chipaca> ogra_: you're my favourite sh expert: does the above make any sense to you? as opposed to just [ -e /var/lib/snapd/snaps/ubuntu-core_*.snap ] ?
[10:10] <Chipaca> JamieBennett: uh, sorry, this's unrelated to your woes
[10:10] <JamieBennett> lol
[10:12] <pedronis> Chipaca: I think you get an error from -e  if there is more than one argument
[10:12] <Chipaca> hm, probably
[10:13] <Chipaca> just the ls, then :-)
[10:13] <pedronis> but yes, it's a weird way to check
[10:14] <JamieBennett> mborzecki: do external links in tweets work for you?
[10:14] <JamieBennett> (in Corebird)
[10:14] <Chipaca> JamieBennett: are the corebird interfaces connected?
[10:15] <JamieBennett> Chipaca: yes, gsettings, home, network, ...
[10:15] <mborzecki> JamieBennett: yes (note, i'm running latest snapd master)
[10:15] <Chipaca> JamieBennett: dbus?
[10:16]  * JamieBennett cannot see a dbus interface
[10:16] <pedronis> have we got any green runs in the last days?   all the recent PRs seem red
[10:16] <JamieBennett> what is the exact name? Should it be dbus?
[10:16] <Chipaca> pedronis: my pr was green yesterday
[10:16] <Chipaca> pedronis: first try, too
[10:16] <pedronis> impressive
[10:17] <Chipaca> pedronis: and finishing at ~5pm which is peak SF
[10:17] <JamieBennett> Chipaca: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26175847/
[10:17] <mborzecki> pedronis: and timing out
[10:18] <Chipaca> JamieBennett: 'snap interfaces corebird' would've been nicer :-D
[10:18] <Chipaca> JamieBennett: corebird:dbus-corebird           -
[10:18] <JamieBennett> Chipaca: well, I'm having issues with snaps all round so pasted them all
[10:19] <Chipaca> JamieBennett: output of 'snap version'?
[10:19] <JamieBennett> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/I1GemYmg/
[10:22]  * mborzecki restarting master branch travis job for the 4th time
[10:23] <Chipaca> JamieBennett: so, about corebird, if you even get a window you're ahead of me
[10:24] <JamieBennett> Mailspring was the other that is not saving settings for me
[10:24] <Chipaca> oh it took ages but finally popped up
[10:24] <Chipaca> it tried to download and bunzip an h264 decoder (wat)
[10:25] <Chipaca> JamieBennett: but, the link on "Create one" worked, so that works
[10:25] <JamieBennett> Chipaca: What I tried to do was turn autoscroll on in settings, close the settings window, then go back and see if it is still enabled
[10:27] <Chipaca> JamieBennett: in corebird?
[10:28] <JamieBennett> yes
[10:29] <Chipaca> JamieBennett: how do i get to settings?
[10:29] <JamieBennett> The cog in the titlebar
[10:30] <Chipaca> JamieBennett: i have no cog in my titlebar
[10:30] <JamieBennett> next to minimise?
[10:31] <Chipaca> JamieBennett: https://i.imgur.com/tXRVd4A.png
[10:31] <JamieBennett> Ah, you have a different theme too, everything is on the left, I'm on 17.10 and everything is on the right
[10:32] <Chipaca> JamieBennett: this is sparta^W16.04
[10:33] <JamieBennett> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/F4QDY6Gw/Screenshot%20from%202017-12-13%2010-32-40.png
[10:33] <JamieBennett> Chipaca: I think there is a more general problem as no snaps seem to be able to save settings, external links in snaps do not work e.t.c.
[10:33]  * JamieBennett keeps digging
[10:34] <Chipaca> JamieBennett: it does sound like something is broken
[10:34] <Chipaca> JamieBennett: have you tried seeing if running core from stable fixes things?
[10:35] <JamieBennett> no, lets try that
[10:36] <JamieBennett> Chipaca: nope, that wasn't it
[10:42] <Chipaca> JamieBennett: I don't have many ideas. I'd normally point you at zyga...
[10:45] <JamieBennett> np, just debugging dbus at the moment, it definitely looks like something is wonky there
[10:58] <pedronis> Chipaca: we will have to turn off some suites or something until we decide what to do, I really would like to merge a couple small PRs before leaving
[10:59] <pedronis> for the holidays
[11:07] <sergiusens> JamieBennet Chipaca snap run --shell corebird ... then touch $SNAP_USER_COMMON/stub and verify that works
[11:08]  * sergiusens is on his phone warming up on a static bike to get started with physiotherapy
[11:09] <Chipaca> pedronis: i'm trying something that might make a difference (maybe too small to be noticeable though, will see if it works at all first)
[11:16] <Chipaca> pedronis: the biggest issue seems to be i/o timeouts from linode :-/
[11:17] <Chipaca> the second issue seems to be that the images haven't been refreshed in too long (or could use some love to be quicker)
[11:18] <Chipaca> (locally in my qemu images i cut down the time by ~15 minutes for 14.04 just by doing all the setup faff beforehand
[11:18] <Chipaca> )
[11:18] <pedronis> I'm sure, I'm looking for a remedy for the next 3 days that doesn't need Gustavo though
[11:19] <Chipaca> yeah
[11:20]  * pedronis lunch
[11:20] <Chipaca> pedronis: that's what i'm trying out: i have a branch that does a single apt-get for distro_install_package instead of one per package
[11:20] <Chipaca> pedronis: and replaces all -comp xz with -comp gzip in ~5 mksquashfs calls we have in tests
[11:20] <Chipaca> between them it might shave 10 minutes or more, depending
[11:20] <Chipaca> testing it now
[11:24] <mborzecki> Chipaca: are msquashfs calls done in prepare?
[11:26] <Chipaca> mborzecki: in core, yes, one
[11:27] <Chipaca> mborzecki: and in the prepare of cmd/snap-confine/spread-tests/regression/lp-1599608/task.yaml
[11:27] <Chipaca> mborzecki: and tests/main/ubuntu-core-custom-device-reg-extras/task.yaml
[11:28] <Chipaca> mborzecki: and tests/main/confinement-classic/test-snapd-hello-classic/Makefile
[11:28] <Chipaca> mborzecki: and tests/main/ubuntu-core-custom-device-reg/task.yaml
[11:28] <Chipaca> mborzecki: and tests/main/ubuntu-core-gadget-config-defaults/task.yaml
[11:28] <mborzecki> ah, right, the ones that were in the pr
[11:29] <Chipaca> mborzecki: </ul>
[11:29] <Chipaca> :)
[11:29] <mborzecki> one thing I observed while browsing logs today: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26176245/
[11:29] <mborzecki> this is right before the timeout
[11:30] <mborzecki> tests/main/lxd task
[11:30] <Chipaca> mborzecki: yeah
[11:31] <mborzecki> any idea what's the size of this rootfs?
[11:31] <Chipaca> mborzecki: it should be possible to do that beforehand also :-/
[11:32] <mborzecki> 10+ minutses of project prepare, blazing fast download and we're pushing the job timeout limit
[11:38] <Chipaca> ummm
[11:39] <Chipaca> i just got green on my pr again
[11:39] <Chipaca> dunnno what y'awl are moanin' about
[11:39] <Chipaca> :-p
[11:39]  * Chipaca is sure to be run over by a bus after this amount of good luck
[11:45] <pedronis> Chipaca: this 2 lines PR takes regularly 49+ mins:  https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4388
[11:45] <mup> PR #4388: overlord/snapstate: fix auto-refresh summary for 2 snaps <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4388>
[11:50] <mup> PR snapd#4397 opened: tests/main/lxd: temporarily switch to manual <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4397>
[11:50] <mborzecki> another experiment, trying to see if this is the culprit
[11:53] <Chipaca> my test run is dying a death of a thousand "no powered off servers in Linode account exceed halt-timeout" :-/
[12:03] <Chipaca> still seeing ~10 min prepares though
[12:27] <mup> PR snapd#4398 opened: overlord/auth,daemon: introduce an explicit auth.ErrInvalidUser <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4398>
[12:28] <pedronis> Chipaca: mborzecki: simple PR (split out from my larger one) ^
[12:43]  * Chipaca ~> lunch
[12:57] <Vamsi> Hello, is it possible for me to license snaps that I build? Is there an online documentation where I can read more on this?
[12:59] <Chipaca> Vamsi: license in what sense?
[13:01] <jdstrand> JamieBennett (cc pstolowski): that is definitely unrelated
[13:02] <Chipaca> pedronis: standup?
[13:02] <jdstrand> JamieBennett (cc pstolowski): (bluez)
[13:02] <JamieBennett> jdstrand: thanks for confirming
[13:04] <Vamsi> Chipaca: such that I can make my snap a paid snap without falling into trouble.
[13:06] <Chipaca> Vamsi: support for for-pay snaps isn't there yet -- JamieBennett or noise][ might have more detail
[13:07] <jdstrand> JamieBennett: you should connect screen-inhibit-control for irccloud
[13:07] <Vamsi> So no snap crurrently is a paid snap? All are free?
[13:07] <jdstrand> JamieBennett: there are a couple also unrelated denials in there that I'll investigate
[13:07] <JamieBennett> Vamsi: that is correct, the service has not been launched yet
[13:09] <Vamsi> okay. thanks :)
[13:14] <pstolowski> jdstrand, thanks for checking
[13:23] <mborzecki> hm looking at some logs from ubuntu-14.04 and analyzing them with mvo's script, there's 13 minutes of prepare time, then the top tests take ~7 minutes, leaving us with 29 minutes for ~237 tests
[13:24] <mborzecki> that's 120ms per test :)
[13:28] <Chipaca> mborzecki: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/compare/master...chipaca:dumb-spread-tweaks
[13:29] <Chipaca> mborzecki: that's why we have multiple workers (and why prepare time is so crucial)
[13:32] <pedronis> most systems have 4 workers
[13:34] <mborzecki> Chipaca: pushed your commit to #4393 and #4391
[13:34] <mup> PR #4393: travis: separate unit tests into separate build matrix jobs <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4393>
[13:34] <mup> PR #4391: travis, run-checks: split travis job into build matrix <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4391>
[13:35]  * kalikiana time for lunch!
[13:39] <pedronis> Chipaca: also afaiu  we run 3 travis jobs and have 80 machines,  atm all workers for a job = 27 (6*4+3),  27*3 = 81, so we are a tiny bit overallocated as well
[13:42] <Chipaca> pedronis: ooh, that'll be biting at least 1/3 of our jobs when we're busy :-(
[13:43] <Chipaca> can that be dropped to 2, or does that also need gustavo?
[13:45] <mup> PR snapd#4398 closed: overlord/auth,daemon: introduce an explicit auth.ErrInvalidUser <Created by pedronis> <Merged by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4398>
[13:45] <pedronis> Chipaca: that can be changed in travies I think
[13:45] <Chipaca> ah yes
[13:45] <Chipaca> should I?
[13:46] <pedronis> Chipaca: we can do that, or disable one of the distros
[13:47] <pedronis> temporarely  (though suse has been disabled temporarly for a long time now)
[13:47] <Chipaca> pedronis: i've set it to 2 for now
[13:47] <Chipaca> pedronis: let's see with mborzecki's matrix how things look
[13:51] <mborzecki> pedronis: i suppose you can find a time scale where 'long time' feels temporary :)
[13:53] <Chipaca> mborzecki: is 9.5 minutes prepare for 14.04 an improvement?
[13:54] <mborzecki> yup
[14:10] <mborzecki> Chipaca: 14.04 finished in 34 minutes
[14:10] <Chipaca> mborzecki: so not necessarily better, but not necessarily worse
[14:11] <mborzecki> in previous run of #4393, ubuntu-14.04 finished in 24 minutes
[14:11] <mup> PR #4393: travis: separate unit tests into separate build matrix jobs <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4393>
[14:13] <Chipaca> mborzecki: but also timed out at 49+?
[14:13] <mborzecki> 16.04 hit a timeout in that build
[14:14] <pedronis> well if we were overallocated, each run might have depended on when it got the last worker (unless it simply died unable to get it at all within allowed time)
[14:14] <pedronis> I don't know how retrying spread does to get machines
[14:14] <pedronis> *how much
[14:23] <jdstrand> kyrofa: hey, I think zyga was looking at the lxc snaps not updating with priority last week. I believe he has vacation to burn and is not around a lot atm
[14:38] <kalikiana> ^^ zyga eoy'ed already
[14:38] <kalikiana> re
[14:45] <anddam> hello
[14:45] <Chipaca> anddam: hello
[14:47] <daniellimws> hi how can I run the scripts in tools/travis locally?
[14:49] <kalikiana> daniellimws: you'll probably want to have a chat with elopio about that
[14:49] <daniellimws> ok it is regarding this task http://paste.ubuntu.com/26171261/
[14:56] <daniellimws> from the conversation above, I probably should not send this to travis untested, to avoid eating up resources right?
[14:57] <kalikiana> daniellimws: yes and no... I believe there was another task to make it possible to run it locally as you're asking, but it's not possible right now
[15:00] <daniellimws> kalikiana: Well I suppose I'll just commit it then, since there's nothing running now it seems. If it's faulty it will die very quickly.
[15:01] <kalikiana> daniellimws: Yeah. I'd say go ahead. And otherwise leo should be around soon
[15:02] <anddam> is snappy a Canonical's project?
[15:06] <mup> PR snapcraft#1806 opened: ci: transfer generated snapcraft snap to transfer.sh <Created by daniellim2000> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1806>
[15:18] <pedronis> mborzecki: what's the difference between #4391 and #4393  ?  given that John reduced the travis jobs they will eat even more travis chances
[15:18] <mup> PR #4391: travis, run-checks: split travis job into build matrix <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4391>
[15:18] <mup> PR #4393: travis: separate unit tests into separate build matrix jobs <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4393>
[15:18] <pedronis> can one be closed?
[15:18] <mborzecki> pedronis: 4393 has unit tests as a separate job
[15:19] <mborzecki> afaiu, travis is gating job execution already, so those should not eat up all the nodes
[15:20] <pedronis> they don't eat nodes, they eat travis jobs
[15:20] <pedronis> exactly
[15:20] <pedronis> to be clear I'm not against the experiment, I'm against having the experiment twice
[15:20] <pedronis> given our current constraints
[15:20] <mborzecki> also, unit tests were supposedly taking quite long, so the idea was to see whether moving those to separate jobs has a positive effect on the build time
[15:21] <mborzecki> hm i guess, i can cancel 4393 job for now, and i'll restart it in the evening
[15:22] <pedronis> Chipaca reduced travis jobs to 2 thinking about other stuff, that approach would need more jobs (if possible) instead :/
[15:22] <mborzecki> and i've canceled the jobs that were not started yet in 4391
[15:23] <mborzecki> pedronis: yeah, we need to find a sweet spot, or write a spread job runner :P
[15:24] <mup> PR snapcraft#1793 closed: project: refactor storeapi <Created by daniellim2000> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1793>
[15:24] <pedronis> yea, except that one of the motivation of spread was indeed not to be on task of running a permanent service :/
[15:25] <pedronis> trade-offs
[15:58] <Chipaca> anddam: what do you mean?
[16:01] <Chipaca> pedronis: how are your jobs faring with the new limit? any further luck?
[16:16] <Chipaca> should we make snapcraft or the store discourage people from calling something "foo-snap"?
[16:16] <Chipaca> sergiusens: ^ wdyt?
[16:17] <niemeyer> Hey folks
[16:17] <niemeyer> I'm in NY and headed to the hotel
[16:17] <niemeyer> A bit tired but can probably try to help moving a few things forward when I get a room
[16:17] <niemeyer> cc pedronis Chipaca
[16:18] <Chipaca> niemeyer: ack
[16:18] <Chipaca> niemeyer: tests are unhappy (lots of timeouts/errors/out-of-machines with linode cascading into timeouts in travis)
[16:19] <niemeyer> If there are any fires, please drop me a note about them in the forum so I start there
[16:19] <Chipaca> niemeyer: ratcheted travis down to 2 runs max
[16:19] <Chipaca> niemeyer: not sure whether it's helped
[16:19] <niemeyer> Ack
[16:19] <niemeyer> It should help
[16:19] <Chipaca> niemeyer: mborzecki has a couple of PRs to play with splitting spread runs into N, per arch, which might make things easier
[16:19] <niemeyer> I'm planning a revamp of our runs so we allocate systems dynamically
[16:20] <niemeyer> That might help making it cheaper and faster at the same time
[16:20] <niemeyer> Saviq needs this too
[16:20] <Chipaca> niemeyer: but when possible there's a bunch of tweaks we should probably do to the images to make them prepare quicker (and some tests hit the network less)
[16:21] <Chipaca> niemeyer: but, worst case, we'll sort it out in the new year :-)
[16:21] <niemeyer> Agreed
[16:21] <niemeyer> And agreed :)
[16:24]  * Chipaca ~> bbl
[16:38] <kalikiana> elopio: hey. could we chat about the yaml for integration tests in snapcraft#1639?
[16:38] <mup> PR snapcraft#1639: grammar: to statement <Created by kalikiana> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1639>
[16:39] <elopio> kalikiana: sure.
[16:40] <elopio> kalikiana: this is the closest I got to what I would like to see, but still not 100% happy: https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/blob/master/snapcraft/tests/fixture_setup.py#L939
[16:42] <kalikiana> elopio: mind joining me in the weekly?
[16:45] <sborovkov_> how can I enable core dump generation on ubuntu core?
[16:47] <elopio> kalikiana: sure, give me a second.
[16:48] <kalikiana> Aye
[16:58] <hurricanehrndz> what kernel modules are required for the build tests to pass?
[16:59] <hurricanehrndz> I keep seeing issues with the seccomp test when testing setuid
[17:03] <hurricanehrndz> specifically can: request_module (can-proto-0)
[17:17] <pedronis> Chipaca: I got again a timeout (49+ mins)
[17:18] <pedronis> Chipaca: https://travis-ci.org/snapcore/snapd/builds/315911230?utm_source=github_status&utm_medium=notification
[17:20] <kalikiana> elopio: sent you my notes. it's probably easiest if I update my branch first, and you can look into removing update_part later since I'll be adding the parts arguments anyway
[17:21] <kalikiana> now time to head out, for drinks and dinner
[17:24] <mup> PR snapcraft#1805 closed: lifecycle: use the -no-fragments mksquashfs option <Created by tyhicks> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1805>
[17:27] <brunosfer> Hi guys, is it possible to specify the architecture of a snap when downloading it? e.g. sudo snap download <snap name> --armhf
[17:32] <pedronis> brunosfer: not super official but UBUNTU_STORE_ARCH=armhf snap download   ... should work
[17:45] <gsilvapt> elopio, you around?
[18:02] <Chipaca> hurricanehrndz: which test suite?
[18:06] <hurricanehrndz> Chipaca: One sec, I think I might have figured it out. I'm going to run one more test, and I'llreport back
[18:06] <Chipaca> hurricanehrndz: ok (but also report which test suite you're talking about -- there're several, and who knows to help varies)
[18:07] <hurricanehrndz> Chipaca: sounds good
[18:13] <pedronis> Chipaca: it's about to fail again with a timeout :/
[18:15] <brunosfer> pedronis: Thank you. It works, however when I do in a amd64 system the UBUNTU_STORE_ARCH=amd64 sudo snap download <snap name> it downloads a different version of the snap then it does in an amrhf with the exact same command.
[18:16] <brunosfer> pedronis: Do you have any idea why this happens?
[18:19] <pedronis> brunosfer: not sure,  best to try to pass a channel --stable or something explicitly
[18:20] <brunosfer> pedronis: I will give it a shot. Thankx
[18:21] <hurricanehrndz> Chipaca: yup, figured out the seccomp test, it had already been fixed in master
[18:22] <Chipaca> brunosfer: er, you mean UBUNTU_STORE_ARCH=armhf right?
[18:23] <brunosfer> pedronis: Doesn't work with the --stable flag. I could try to specify the version, however my intention is to get the latest version regardless of the architecture downloading the snap
[18:23] <brunosfer> Chipaca: I mean UBUNTU_STORE_ARCH=amd64
[18:23] <Chipaca> brunosfer: but that's telling it to download the amd64 snap, don't you want the armhf one?
[18:24] <brunosfer> Chipaca: but could also be armhf, I just want consistency on the version I download regardless of the architecture downloading the snap
[18:24] <Chipaca> brunosfer: that sounds like a strange requirement to me, could you explain further?
[18:24] <pedronis> notice that different arch different revision
[18:24] <Chipaca> pedronis: let _me_ press the 'restart' button this time; it likes me :-p
[18:24] <brunosfer> Chipaca: I want to make the download of the snap to send it oflfline to another device that has a different architecture.
[18:25] <pedronis> for the version you need to look at snap info *.snap
[18:25] <brunosfer> pedronis: You mean that the snap I'm trying to download might have different versions for different architectures...
[18:25] <Chipaca> brunosfer: I understand that, but then you compare what you download with “UBUNTU_STORE_ARCH=amd64 snap download thesnap” with what you install on an armhf system with “snap install thesnap”; those are different things
[18:25] <Chipaca> brunosfer: revisions, not versions
[18:27] <pedronis> Chipaca: I already did :/
[18:27] <brunosfer> Chipaca: in this case, I'm downloading the nmap (because it's small) for testing purposes, but the version is in the name of the snap when I download the file right?
[18:27] <pedronis> no
[18:27] <pedronis> that's the revision
[18:28] <pedronis> the files produced by snap download have the revision in them
[18:28] <pedronis> I mean the file names of the files
[18:28] <brunosfer> pedronis: Ok, thankx, my mistake then, I will install them and check the version. They should be the same then :)
[18:28] <Chipaca> brunosfer: in "snap info nmap" (on amd64), the (29) is the revision; 7.12SVN-0.6 is the version
[18:28] <Chipaca> awww they're still using svn
[18:28] <Chipaca> :-)
[18:28] <pedronis> brunosfer: snap info  <snapfile>  can give you the version without installing first
[18:28] <brunosfer> Chipaca: Thanks for the help ;)
[18:28] <brunosfer> pedronis: Thanks for the help ;)
[18:28] <pedronis> in case
[18:29] <brunosfer> pedronis: Yes, but I was being mislead by the name of the snap. Thanks for the help ;)
[18:53] <sergiusens> elopio kyrofa snapcraft#1801 has no reviews yet, being pretty simple it should go fast
[18:53] <mup> PR snapcraft#1801: lifecycle: detect docker to auto setup core <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1801>
[18:56] <Saviq> is it possible to limit the architectures the snap is built for on build.snapcraft.io ?
[19:17] <sergiusens> Saviq not today, not yet
[19:21] <Saviq> ok, let's see what happens then
[19:22] <mup> PR snapcraft#1806 closed: ci: transfer generated snapcraft snap to transfer.sh <Created by daniellim2000> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1806>
[19:24] <Wulong> How do I install a snapshot in a custom directory? its size exceed /
[19:25] <mup> PR snapcraft#1801 closed: lifecycle: detect docker to auto setup core <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1801>
[19:42] <mup> PR snapd#4388 closed: overlord/snapstate: fix auto-refresh summary for 2 snaps <Created by pedronis> <Merged by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4388>
[19:47] <Chipaca> Wulong: pardon?
[19:51] <tyhicks> jdstrand: what's your advice on the test errors in https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4396 ?
[19:51] <mup> PR #4396: snap: use the -no-fragments mksquashfs option <Created by tyhicks> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4396>
[19:51] <tyhicks> jdstrand: they're due to http requests with the store timing out
[19:51] <tyhicks> (unrelated to my changes0
[19:53] <Wulong> Chipaca: how can I install a snap to a custom dir. Eg. snap install vlc --store-to-some-custom-path=/some/custom/path
[19:54] <tyhicks> it doesn't look like I have the ability to restart the tests
[19:54] <Chipaca> Wulong: currently you can't, but if you have a single location that could hold all the snaps you need, you can mount that
[19:55] <Chipaca> Wulong: what sizes are we talking?
[19:55] <Wulong> 30 GB
[19:55] <Chipaca> Wulong: the .snap is 30GB?
[19:56] <Wulong> Not sure if its the snap or its data.
[19:56] <Wulong> Probably the latter.
[19:56] <Chipaca> Wulong: the snap is heavily compressed, so it might be significantly smaller
[19:56] <Chipaca> Wulong: and, it's mounted compressed; you don't need space for more than just the snap
[19:58] <Chipaca> Wulong: but if you do need more space, /var/lib/snapd/snaps/ is where you need to put the space (but you need to mount it before installing any snaps...)
[19:59] <Wulong> Ok, I'll give it another shot. Must have been application error or config issue.
[19:59] <Wulong> Yea I know, but I don't have a free partition :|
[19:59] <Chipaca> Wulong: then where were you going to put the snap?
[19:59] <Wulong> Thanks for the help Chipaca
[19:59] <Wulong> In /home
[20:00] <Chipaca> Wulong: mount --bind is your friend
[20:00] <Wulong> Ah, of course. Forgot abotu that one.
[20:01] <Wulong> Linux has become too easy. Makes me lazy
[20:01] <Chipaca> Wulong: :-)
[20:29] <jdstrand> tyhicks: let me look
[20:31] <Chipaca> tyhicks: jdstrand: we're having issues with spread and linode and travis
[20:32] <jdstrand> Chipaca (cc tyhicks): whoops too late. I clicked 'restart build'
[20:32] <jdstrand> tyhicks: if this build fails, I would comment in the PR that the test failures are unrelated
[20:32] <Chipaca> jdstrand: 👌
[20:33] <tyhicks> ack, thanks
[20:37] <pedronis> Chipaca: I managed to merge some stuff, but maybe master is red for all I know
[20:38] <Chipaca> pedronis: when is it you're off?
[20:48] <sergiusens> elopio look at this error, wrong snapcraft is being called https://travis-ci.org/snapcore/snapcraft/jobs/316053900
[20:51] <sergiusens> ohh nvm
[21:02] <lundmar> hmm, isn't --devmode and --classic supposed to disable confinement? I have a tool that still gets permission denied when writing on NFS shares despite being installed with --devmode and --classic.
[21:03] <lundmar> I'm running <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:05] <kyrofa> lundmar, yes, although you still may be hitting traditional permissions
[21:11] <mup> PR snapd#4399 opened: rewrite snappy-app-dev <Created by jdstrand> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4399>
[21:57] <pedronis> Chipaca: Friday is eoy for me
[22:05] <Chipaca> pedronis: ah ok, same here


[00:00] <JanC> yeah, I was planning to do that for debugging, but I don't really want to lose my profile, so I want to find a different solution too
[00:01] <gnomefreak> JanC: you dont have to lose it just mv it and after you test mv it back
[00:01] <gnomefreak> or use -P i think will let you start with new profile
[00:01] <JanC> I know, I already have another profile  ;)
[00:02] <JanC> but it's clean, so I will have to try installing extensions in it
[00:03] <gnomefreak> !info blam hardy
[00:06] <gnomefreak> ok thats filed let me try on Hardy brb
[00:16] <gnomefreak> i think it is xulrunner but i will tell you as soon as i get the right version :)
[00:16] <gnomefreak> seems fta's version fixes crash :)
[00:18] <fta> i'm nearly done with songbird.. at least for a v0.01. just need a desktop file and an icon
[00:19] <fta> of course, i haven't addressed the license issue at all
[00:19] <gnomefreak> if it crashes its xul
[00:20] <gnomefreak> asac: fta the seee through pane is caused by xulrunner in repos
[00:20] <gnomefreak> fta's fixes that as well
[00:23] <fta> so it must be upstream fix ;)
[00:26] <gnomefreak> yep it crashed with repos xul
[00:27] <gnomefreak> and the see through is xul :) filing both bugs blam changing to xulrunner
[00:27] <gnomefreak> bug 227993
[00:32] <gnomefreak> how do i mark a bug for hardy and intrepid?
[00:33] <fta> nominate ?
[00:34] <gnomefreak> fta: want it marked as confirmed?
[00:38] <fta> i'm not using blam
[00:56] <gnomefreak> ok both bugs are up and the visual problems have screenshots with policy xulrunner-1.9 next to them to show what one has issues and what one fixes issue :)
[01:21] <gnomefreak> im going to bed this fucking bickering and crap is really really pissing me off
[09:19] <asac> armin76: where do you gentoo guys have your patches
[09:19] <asac> do you have all your sources in cvs or something?
[09:49] <asac> found
[09:58] <armin76> yeah, going to stole them? :P
[10:00] <asac> thats the idae
[12:19] <asac> jimmy_: how is the xdg patch going?
[12:46] <fta> hi
[12:46] <asac> hello
[12:46] <fta> asac, i've having chrome registration issues with songbird when it is installed globally (obviously, no problem from dist/bin)
[12:47] <fta> 'im
[12:47] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/sb-chrome.png
[12:47] <fta> and a whole bunch of Failed to load XPCOM component: /usr/lib/songbird/components/sbProperties.jsm
[12:47] <asac> yeah ... thats what you usually get when there is a chrome.manfest missing iirc
[12:47] <fta> touch /usr/lib/songbird/.autoreg doesn't help
[12:48] <asac> fta: run one time from dist/bin
[12:48] <asac> then compare what file it created in chrome/
[12:48] <asac> sometimes its an empty .manifest that is just missing
[12:49] <asac> hmm XPCOM components sounds more scary
[12:49] <asac> fta: do they have the nsExtensionManager.js in componnets/ ?
[12:50] <fta> not in sb but in xul: /usr/lib/songbird/xulrunner/components/nsExtensionManager.js
[12:50] <asac> do they use application.ini + xulrunner-stub?
[12:50] <fta> yes
[12:51] <asac> any info available which components fail?
[12:51] <asac> where can i get sunbird sources?
[12:52] <asac> do you have them in ppa?
[12:54] <asac> fta: are you sure its using the embedded xulrunner during runtime?
[12:54] <asac> maybe it finds the matching gre.d config and uses our system thing
[12:55] <fta> i will push it soon
[12:55] <fta> yes, it's using the embedded xul
[13:03] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tarballs/songbird_0.6~svn20080503r9149.orig.tar.gz
[13:03] <fta> clean-up my branch...
[13:05] <asac> getting it
[13:05] <fta> well, i'm not even sure it will build on amd64, let me try 1st
[13:06] <asac> i am on x86 here
[13:06] <asac> but i want to look at source only anyway
[13:06] <asac> for now
[13:07] <fta> ok, no more popups, just by touching dist/extensions/*/chrome.manifest
[13:08] <fta> yes, the Failed to load XPCOM component errors are still there
[13:08] <fta> yet
[13:08] <asac> yeah right
[13:08] <asac> extensions withou tempty chrome.manifest in global location
[13:12] <fta> hm, there's no project on lp, not sure i could create it with the license issue unsorted out
[13:12] <asac> fta: the .jsm file is shipped in components?
[13:12] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7791 2008-05-08 02:25 /usr/lib/songbird/components/sbProperties.jsm
[13:13] <asac> currently creating projects is disabled in launchpad (at least it was yesterday)
[13:13] <asac> fta: yeah ... thats not a component ... in xul we ship those in modules/
[13:13] <fta> it's a vanilla copy of dist
[13:14] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10909/
[13:14] <asac> i think there is the bug
[13:14] <asac> it shouldn't be in COMPONENTS at all
[13:14] <asac> just JSMODULES
[13:14] <asac> and then we have to figure if they load it with wrong path somewhere
[13:15] <asac> ./app/content/scripts/device/deviceProgress.js:Cu.import("resource://app/components/sbProperties.jsm");
[13:15] <asac> ./app/content/scripts/trackEditor.js:Components.utils.import("resource://app/components/sbProperties.jsm");
[13:15] <asac> ./app/content/xul/device/deviceErrorDialog.xul:    Cu.import("resource://app/components/sbProperties.jsm");
[13:15] <asac> those should be fixed as well then i guess
[13:15] <asac> like ./app/content/bindings/playlistMenuItems.xml:            Components.utils.import("resource://app/jsmodules/sbProperties.jsm");
[13:15] <asac> ./app/content/bindings/playlist.xml:    Components.utils.import("resource://app/jsmodules/sbProperties.jsm");
[13:16] <fta> build-tree/songbird/compiled/dist/components/sbProperties.jsm
[13:16] <fta> build-tree/songbird/compiled/dist/jsmodules/sbProperties.jsm
[13:16] <asac> yeah ... it shouldn't be in components
[13:16] <asac> apparently there was confusion among upstream devs ;) or some refactoring missed some cases
[13:17] <asac> i guess it was done wrong at some points (e.g. in components) and refactoring missed those three cases as there are lots of right references in the tree
[13:17] <fta> but why does it fail then ? the jsm files are in both locations, it shouldn't hurt
[13:18] <asac> fta: it doesn't fail ... it fails to load that file as a component
[13:18] <fta> oh, i see :)
[13:18] <asac> the Components.util.import most likely succeeds
[13:18] <asac> so its just clutter on the console
[13:18] <asac> but not nice anyway ;)
[13:20] <asac> submitting a patch woudl demonstrate good faith ;)
[13:21] <fta> let's see if i can fix that quickly
[13:23] <asac> just patching those three references and the Makefile.in should be enough afaicgt
[13:24] <fta> damn quilt
[13:25] <fta> upstream ship a patches directory
[13:25] <asac> actually they say in the comment that they want to remove it post 0.5
[13:25] <fta> so if i'm in the songbird tree, my toplevel patches are hidden
[13:25] <asac> so they certainly want this fixed
[13:25] <asac> fta: even if you use QUILT_PATCHES env?
[13:26] <fta> well, i had that at the beginning but it's painful to use, i always forget to set the variable
[13:26] <fta> and if i set it, it breaks other branches
[13:26] <asac> yeah i agree
[13:27] <asac> convince upstream to add a quilt series to their dir
[13:27] <asac> not sure if thats better though
[13:27] <fta> it will do no good
[13:27] <asac> well, we could stop using a patchsystem in debian/ then
[13:28] <asac> would require full source bzr though
[13:28] <asac> e.g. only patches in diff.gz ... but outside debian/
[13:28] <fta> it's damn too big
[13:28] <asac> yeah ... or create patches/ dir in the bzr branch top level
[13:28] <asac> bzr --merge should do the right thing i hope
[13:29] <fta> that's what i've done, but if there's a patches dir deeper into the tree, that part of the tree will see that instead of the toplevel one
[13:29] <asac> i think top priority would be to make it work with our system xul :)
[13:29] <asac> even if that means some regressions
[13:29] <asac> that would put some pressure on them to ge tthe patches in a form that is suitable for us/upstream
[13:29] <fta> yep, i just wanted a working base
[13:29] <asac> e.g. if our songbird package has some regressions
[13:30] <asac> like what we do for midbrowser
[13:30] <asac> some features that require xul hackery are not there in the official archive and we ship a patched xulrunner in ppa
[13:31] <asac> that would be an option for songbird imo ... only requirement is that it somewhat starts
[14:02] <fta> http://upsilon.cc/~zack/stuff/vcs-usage/
[14:06] <gnomefreak> asac: our system xulrunner needs to be fided ;)
[14:06] <gnomefreak> fixed
[14:11] <gnomefreak> fta: ppa ubuntu4~mt1 is just a ubuntu change to what we had in repos for hardy?
[14:11] <fta> mt1 is not mine
[14:11] <fta> read the changelog :)
[14:11] <gnomefreak> ok i got the license from mozilla now
[14:14] <fta> asac, now, this fails:
[14:14] <fta>     var manager = Cc["@songbirdnest.com/Songbird/library/Manager;1"].
[14:14] <fta>                   getService(Ci.sbILibraryManager);
[14:14] <gnomefreak> asac: any reason we didnt keep the normal name for hardy xulrunner? maybe because of -updates?
[14:15] <fta> eh?
[14:16] <gnomefreak> fta: i remember half way through why he named it that way
[14:16]  * gnomefreak thinks we should have waitng to apply the disk IO until we push new upstream to hardy
[14:17] <asac> gnomefreak: because we still have xulrunner 1.8
[14:17] <fta> what name are you talking about ?
[14:18] <asac> iiuc its xulrunner-1.9 he talks about
[14:18] <gnomefreak> 1.8 shouldnt affect the naming and with ubuntu4~804.0mt really isnt needed
[14:19] <asac> gnomefreak: then i don't know what you are referring to
[14:19] <asac> maybe start over ;)
[14:19] <gnomefreak> yes only fix that was pushed was excessive disk IO. since that patch is in upstream why didnt we just spin new upstream?
[14:19] <gnomefreak> in 1.9
[14:19] <asac> gnomefreak: because upstream hasn't released it
[14:19] <gnomefreak> oh
[14:19] <asac> we had to backport and apply to last available release
[14:19] <asac> which happens to be 1.9 b5
[14:20] <gnomefreak> thought they did when it closed the bug
[14:20] <asac> no
[14:20] <asac> they committed to cvs
[14:20] <armin76> bumb!
[14:20] <gnomefreak> ok so we wait for them to push new release than we can add it to hardy?
[14:20] <asac> fta: how does it fail? is the component not registered or is the interface missing?
[14:21] <asac> gnomefreak: its in hardy -updates
[14:21] <fta> Error: Cc['@songbirdnest.com/Songbird/library/Manager;1'] is undefined
[14:21] <fta> Source File: file:///usr/lib/songbird/jsmodules/sbLibraryUtils.jsm
[14:21] <fta> Line: 41
[14:21] <gnomefreak> asac: we need new upstream release in hardy-updates along with intrepid
[14:22] <fta> and
[14:22] <fta> Error: Cc['@songbirdnest.com/Songbird/library/Manager;1'] is undefined
[14:22] <fta> Source File: file:///usr/lib/songbird/components/sbLibraryServicePaneService.js
[14:22] <fta> Line: 1620
[14:22] <asac> that means that either Cc is not defined or th ecomponent not registered
[14:22] <asac> the latter you can check in compreg.dat
[14:22] <asac> the former should be some import of another .jsm file
[14:22] <asac> gnomefreak: yes. but not before they release ;)
[14:23] <asac> gnomefreak: we have the backport in hardy for now ... same for intrepid
[14:23] <gnomefreak> right
[14:23] <gnomefreak> new upstream fixes some crahses atleast
[14:23] <gnomefreak> i cant say all because the -dbgsym are not up to date with our packages
[14:24] <fta> ppa doesn't do -dbgsym
[14:24] <gnomefreak> fta: the ones in updates dont have right version either
[14:25] <gnomefreak> oh its fixed
[14:26] <gnomefreak> 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 version wouldnt install yesterday on base hardy or base intrepid
[14:26] <fta> -updates has -dbgsym, not -proposed
[14:26] <fta> http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/
[14:27] <gnomefreak> fta: i know what repos have it but they were not up to date last night see bug 227998
[14:27] <gnomefreak> i give output when tryingt o install them
[14:27] <gnomefreak> brb need to be on intrepid for this extension
[14:39] <gnomefreak> sorry wrong bug i gave you its but 227993
[14:39] <fta> http://oduinn.com/2008/05/07/we-have-how-many-machines/
[14:40] <gnomefreak> bug 227993 is the bug with the packages
[14:57] <gnomefreak> i just did updates and firefox nor xulrunner were in them why is firefox-3.0 asking for a restart?
[14:58] <asac> gnomefreak: thats good :)
[14:58] <asac> didn't know it worked. if its not intentional then its good luck ;)
[14:59] <asac> ah ... you said none was updated ... not sure then. maybe the restart notification daemon has a bug
[15:00] <gnomefreak> not sure ill get you what was updated
[15:00] <gnomefreak> The following packages will be upgraded: bash findutils fuse-utils gnustep-back-common gnustep-back0.12 gnustep-back0.12-art gnustep-gpbs libaudclient1 libfuse2 libio-compress-base-perl libsane libsvga1 libusb-0.1-4 libxfont1 man-db mawk popularity-contest python-debian rhinote xdg-utils zlib1g zlib1g-dev
[15:01] <gnomefreak> i dont see naything ff related
[15:02] <gnomefreak> downgrading libxfont1 again :(
[15:04] <fta> lock it
[15:07] <gnomefreak> fta: i havent had a chance yet
[15:19] <gnomefreak> its seems ysnaptic's lock doewnt work for terminal
[15:19] <gnomefreak> how do i lock it from terminal?
[15:20] <Wulfie> hey folks - I am trying to use the lightning extension in Thunderbird (hardy heron) I have it installed but when i right click to add a new calendar the option is greyed out.  Any ideas?
[15:20] <gnomefreak> Wulfie: what version?
[15:20] <Wulfie> lightning 0.8
[15:20] <gnomefreak> Wulfie: fro upstream?
[15:20] <gnomefreak> from*
[15:20] <Wulfie> the one from the mozilla site
[15:20] <asac> Wulfie: use our packages
[15:20] <Wulfie> ah
[15:21] <asac> not from mozilla site
[15:21] <Wulfie> where can I find that?
[15:21] <gnomefreak> move your profile and start a new one
[15:21] <asac> we have 0.7 in hardy ... or 0.8 in mozillateam ppa
[15:21] <gnomefreak> oh mozxilla site
[15:21] <asac> sudo apt-get install lightning-extension
[15:21] <gnomefreak> i thought he menat mozilla ppa
[15:21] <Wulfie> I didn't know you could apt-get install extensions
[15:21] <asac> you can ;)
[15:21] <gnomefreak> Wulfie: why not?
[15:21] <asac> try the command above
[15:22] <asac> and remove the other in tools -> addons first
[15:22] <gnomefreak> you can apt-get anything we make
[15:22] <gnomefreak> he needs to repos first
[15:22] <Wulfie> just seems like you would install it through the application rather than through pacakge management
[15:22] <gnomefreak> and remove the profile
[15:22] <asac> Wulfie: yes, in firefox we have a link in app that reads "install ubuntu extensions"
[15:22] <asac> we are doing something similar in intrepid for tbird most likely
[15:27] <Wulfie> whats the apt-repo for mozillateam
[15:27] <asac> Wulfie: look https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive
[15:27] <asac> there are the apt lines
[15:28] <asac> but i think you could be quite happy with 0.7 too.
[15:28] <asac> 0.8 will reach -backports at some point i guess
[15:28] <asac> we just need to bug jdong about it ;)
[15:28] <fta> i've pushed songbird to my ppa, hoping i got the builddeps right at the 1st try ;)
[15:28] <Wulfie> thanks
[15:30] <asac> fta: does songbird have their own translations?
[15:30] <fta> yes
[15:30] <asac> how many languages?
[15:31] <fta> a lot
[15:31] <fta> hundreds ?
[15:32] <asac> i doubt it
[15:34] <fta> asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/sb-lang.png
[15:35] <asac> those really translations? not preferred display language?
[15:35] <asac> are the LANGCODE.jar files for each of them?
[15:36] <fta> it's downloaded at runtime when you select a lang
[15:36] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/sb-lang2.png
[15:36] <asac> oh cool
[15:37] <fta> gnomefreak, here is a deb for intrepid (as the ppa will only do hardy) http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/songbird_0.6~svn20080503r9149-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[15:37] <gnomefreak> fta: thanks
[15:38] <fta> please let me know what's wrong with those
[15:38]  * fta leaving for 1h or 2
[15:38] <gnomefreak> will do
[15:39] <asac> ok in leaving mode too now
[15:40] <fta> asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/sb-lang3.png
[15:40]  * fta gone
[16:36] <Jazzva> Good thing that linux is not malware target: http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2008/050708-mozilla-firefox-plugin-shipped-with.html
[16:37] <Jazzva> though, it may be possible to affect us too :/...
[16:42] <Jazzva> asac, you assigned me to bug 226195. Should I prepare the upgrade to the new upstream version?  (since you mentioned that you're reassigning it to me for now)
[18:10] <jimmy_> asac: u got my email on the XDG patch?
[18:11] <gnomefreak> guys last i heard he left for a while
[18:12] <gnomefreak> fta: if you are back from break let me know theres something i need to ask you about songbird
[18:20] <fta> back
[18:29] <fta> gnomefreak, back
[18:29] <gnomefreak> fta: songbird doesnt do mp3?
[18:29] <gnomefreak> fta: is there a --enable-mp3 build option?
[18:30] <fta> it should. it's build to system gstreamer
[18:30] <fta> tu use
[18:30] <fta> to use
[18:30] <fta> i'm tired :P
[18:31] <fta> too much sport
[18:31] <fta> for some reason, ppa build failed. i'll investigate a bit later
[18:31] <gnomefreak> it wont import them nor play them but totem does
[18:32] <fta> even online ?
[18:34] <gnomefreak> what dop you mean online?
[18:34] <fta> oh, it's a regression since i've patched the jsm stuff earlier today
[18:34] <fta> onLoad TypeError: Components.classes['@songbirdnest.com/Songbird/library/Manager;1'] is undefined
[18:35] <fta> damn
[18:37] <gnomefreak> fta: fail to build problem or mp3 issue?
[18:45] <gnomefreak> fta: as soon as im done with this wiki i will play with songbird+mp3s some more
[18:57] <gnomefreak> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto?action=show now ther eis a working wiki for pinning i redid it in full
[19:00] <gnomefreak> fta: i see it was searching that you meant by TypeError: Components.classes['@songbirdnest.com/Songbird/library/Manager;1'] is undefined
[19:01]  * gnomefreak wonders how it is with ipods
[19:51] <gnomefreak> aI hate people. be back in a few
[20:04] <gnomefreak> ok done with bugs for now maybe some wiki work in a bit
[20:25] <Gorzak> hi
[20:25] <Gorzak> how to use java on firefox 3 beta 5 ?
[20:26] <Gorzak> it's not active for me, it's bugging
[20:30] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: 386, 64bit or ppc
[20:31] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: what package did you install and from where?
[20:31] <Gorzak> 386
[20:31] <Gorzak> i had upgrade ubuntu festy to hardy, so i upgrade automatically firefox to 3 beta 5
[20:32] <gnomefreak> asac: im touching up some of the wikis to include newer things or rephase i dont have a bunch of time tonght :)
[20:32] <Gorzak> and i lost the java plugin
[20:32] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: fiesty > Hardy is not supported as it causing major issues
[20:33] <gnomefreak> please remove it using synaptic using complete removal (the java package you isntalled than close synaptic and caall for me again
[20:33] <Gorzak> gutsy to hardy sorry
[20:33] <Gorzak> i don't remember the abc ^^
[20:33] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: apt-cache policy sun-java6-plugin  let me know the output next to INstalled
[20:34] <Gorzak> sun-java6-plugin:
[20:34] <Gorzak>   Installé : 6-06-0ubuntu1
[20:34] <Gorzak>   Candidat : 6-06-0ubuntu1
[20:34] <Gorzak>  Table de version :
[20:34] <Gorzak>  *** 6-06-0ubuntu1 0
[20:34] <Gorzak>         500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Packages
[20:34] <Gorzak>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[20:34] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: good
[20:34] <gnomefreak> ok lets try easy way
[20:34] <gnomefreak> run locate libflashplugin.so let me know what dir it is in
[20:34] <Gorzak> i follow you
[20:35] <gnomefreak> shit thats not right
[20:35] <Gorzak> it' searching
[20:35] <gnomefreak> give me a minnute
[20:35] <Gorzak> ok
[20:36] <gnomefreak> ok can you open synaptic and completely remove sun-java6-plugin
[20:37] <gnomefreak> if you click on the square you will see completely remove choose that one
[20:38] <Gorzak> i'ts loading
[20:38] <gnomefreak> thats not right :( it says we have 330ish bugs open on ff
[20:38] <gnomefreak> maybe new
[20:39] <Gorzak> it will be fixed to the V.3 fix
[20:39] <Gorzak> it's done
[20:39] <Gorzak> remove the sun-java6-plugin completely
[20:39] <gnomefreak> asac: do you know if kaunchpad.py works for mozilla? i would like to get an accurate number of bugs for ff ff3 xul... tb and so on
[20:40] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: ok close synaptic
[20:40] <gnomefreak> now run sudo apt-get autoclean
[20:40] <gnomefreak> you will see alot of stuff its normal
[20:41] <Gorzak> done
[20:41] <gnomefreak> good
[20:41] <gnomefreak> now sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[20:41] <Gorzak> done
[20:41] <gnomefreak> restart firefox and let me know if java is still failing than we have to figure out why
[20:41] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: i will be right back
[20:43] <gnomefreak> ok back
[20:43] <Gorzak> ok
[20:43] <gnomefreak> !opera
[20:43] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> tell me when you are back
[20:43] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: after restarting ff does it work?
[20:43] <Gorzak> no
[20:44] <gnomefreak> ok give me a minute im testing this before giving it to you. please go to java.com and you will see test your java or something like that
[20:45] <Gorzak> the jave site say it's good, i get the good java version
[20:45] <gnomefreak> oh hsit
[20:45] <gnomefreak> what site are you having issues with
[20:45] <Gorzak> but on the website where i want use java, it's wrong
[20:45] <Gorzak> that's good : http://www.java.com/fr/download/installed.jsp?jre_version=1.6.0_06&vendor=Sun+Microsystems+Inc.&os=Linux&os_version=2.6.24-17-386
[20:45] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: it may be site having issues
[20:45] <Gorzak> that's wrong : http://games.asobrain.com/
[20:45] <Gorzak> on my other computer it's good
[20:46] <Gorzak> ubuntu too hardy too
[20:46] <gnomefreak> that page you just cant view the applets?
[20:46] <Gorzak> isn't the website i think
[20:46] <gnomefreak> your on Hardy right?
[20:46] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> no, it's a popup running by a page from this site
[20:46] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: try running i dont see a pop up
[20:46] <gnomefreak> at all
[20:47] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> you need be login
[20:47] <gnomefreak> i see little faces jumping
[20:47] <gnomefreak> is ther ea trial account or a visters account
[20:47] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> it is possible than java running on spécific websites ?
[20:48] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: i think its not set in update-alternatives but im trying this first so i know
[20:48] <Gorzak> i try again
[20:49] <Gorzak> the page is loading, but not completely, and the system manager show me than nothing is running on the process
[20:49] <gnomefreak> asac: im setting up accounts on the sites that we need to test on and im using mozilla-team and a password for us to test i will talk about it when i see you
[20:49] <Gorzak> ok
[20:49] <gnomefreak> if nautlis opens that is
[20:50] <Gorzak> when i force to quit the window, the process show me a big activity by java
[20:50] <gnomefreak> that sounds normal
[20:51] <Gorzak> what about the sound ?
[20:51] <fta> gnomefreak, re-dl the songbird deb from my site, it works for me. i've reverted my last patch. it's not perfect (as it shows some errors) but i'm on it
[20:51] <Gorzak> the page running correctly gnomefreak ?
[20:51] <gnomefreak> fta: ok same link?
[20:52] <fta> yes
[20:52] <gnomefreak> ok thanks
[20:52] <gnomefreak> fta: wanna test java?
[20:52] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: ok where from home page
[20:52] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> play
[20:53] <gnomefreak> click on use pop ups?
[20:53] <Gorzak> if you want, it's doesn't matter
[20:53] <Gorzak> and click on a link
[20:53] <gnomefreak> what should i be seeing or not seeing?
[20:53] <Gorzak> ranking basic for exemple
[20:54] <Gorzak> and normally, a page charged, with a part for chat, a part of users list
[20:54] <Gorzak> etc
[20:54] <gnomefreak> i have th java applet loading
[20:54] <Gorzak> it's a page for choose a game and gamers
[20:54] <gnomefreak> its light blue looks like im in a game tavle
[20:55] <Gorzak> yes
[20:55] <gnomefreak> your not getting that?
[20:55] <gnomefreak> fta: where does java hang out for ff3?
[20:55] <Gorzak> i get that, but not more than a blue window
[20:55] <gnomefreak> its not in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[20:55] <gnomefreak> does it ever say wont load or cant load?
[20:56] <Gorzak> say nothing
[20:56] <gnomefreak> im wondering if java is running but you are lagging due to javascript
[20:56]  * gnomefreak saw a few bugs on that in email today
[20:56] <Gorzak> he charge a little, i see on process, then stop, and it's all,
[20:56] <Gorzak> it stop on the blue windows, without list of user etc
[20:57] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: do you have account at anyother java game sites like yahoo or pogo?
[20:57] <Gorzak> no, you know other website with java ?
[20:57] <gnomefreak> your java is installed and working
[20:57] <gnomefreak> yes pogo is most popular
[20:57] <gnomefreak> my g/f swears by it
[20:58] <gnomefreak> ill brb phone
[20:58] <gnomefreak> fta: same version number?
[20:59] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> i have test this page : http://fr1.seafight.bigpoint.com/?aid=367&aip=25421
[20:59] <Gorzak> and i don't see all the elements
[21:00] <gnomefreak> im freezing up give me a minute
[21:00] <gnomefreak> hmmmm it is the same version
[21:01] <gnomefreak> ok you dont see what on that site?
[21:01] <gnomefreak> do you see the little movie screen?
[21:02] <[reed]> asac: ping
[21:02] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> pogo run correctly
[21:02] <gnomefreak> [reed]: good luck
[21:02] <Lucas_Smithen> hey - I am using the lightning plug-in for thunderbird on heron (version 0.8 of lightning) is there a way to set it so when I scroll the mouse it doesn't flip through months/days?
[21:02] <[reed]> lol
[21:02] <Gorzak> i had play on pogo it's good
[21:02] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: if pogo works java works
[21:02] <gnomefreak> Lucas_Smithen: from mozilla site?
[21:03] <Lucas_Smithen> yours
[21:03] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> but not ont all websites
[21:03] <gnomefreak> oh thanks but its not mine right now :)
[21:03] <Lucas_Smithen> http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/ubuntu
[21:03] <Lucas_Smithen> lol
[21:03] <gnomefreak> i did the locales
[21:03] <Lucas_Smithen> well from mozillateam ppa
[21:03] <gnomefreak> Lucas_Smithen: no not that i know of other than not hovering or clicking on the table
[21:04] <gnomefreak> i use sunbird as my tbird is temermental
[21:04] <gnomefreak> [reed]: wtf is java :(
[21:04] <[reed]> ??
[21:04] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> what i can do ?
[21:04] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: from what i can tell this may be a xulrunner problem
[21:05] <gnomefreak> im missing some things when i use the versin of xul in repos so i use fta's maintained version
[21:06] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: please file a bug with screen shots of what you see on the first site you gave me and the other site you gave me and i will look into tonight or tomorrow morning but i doubt its java
[21:06] <gnomefreak> fta: will your xulrunner work with Hardy stock firefo 3
[21:07]  * gnomefreak wonders if we dont try this anyway
[21:07] <fta_> yes, except lang packs
[21:07] <gnomefreak> Lucas_Smithen: [reed] wopuld know better but i think hes off for day
[21:07] <gnomefreak> fta: thanks ill have him test it
[21:08] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: we are gonna try something ok?
[21:09] <Lucas_Smithen> gnomefreak: thanks
[21:09] <Lucas_Smithen> I'll just stick around
[21:09] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: are you ok with that? ive been running it because it fixes alot of other issues
[21:09] <gnomefreak> Lucas_Smithen: thats fine
[21:13] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> am here
[21:13] <Gorzak> i put screenshoot
[21:14] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: ok will you test xulrunner for me simple install it restart firefox and test those sites again
[21:15] <gnomefreak> its the next upstream release that has this fix in it and fta packaged it
[21:15]  * gnomefreak will be testing songbird while i wait :)
[21:15] <Gorzak> how test xulrunner ?
[21:16] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: just install it restart ff and go to sites
[21:16] <gnomefreak> fta_: chrome reg. failure
[21:16] <gnomefreak> may7be new profile
[21:16] <Jazzva> fta_: Have you had chance to play with firefox lang packs maybe?
[21:16] <gnomefreak> Songbird could not install this item because of a failure in Chrome Registration. Please contact the author about this problem.  fta_
[21:17] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: ^
[21:17] <gnomefreak> and it poped up like 6 times
[21:17] <fta_> gnomefreak, i know, continue, it will work
[21:17] <Jazzva> During the packaging and stuff...
[21:17] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> fr.archive.ubuntu.com is very longer, it maybe put long time
[21:17] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: the lang pack?ok cool
[21:17] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: just use the wget command it shouldnt take long
[21:18] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: the command to run is   wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14322573/xulrunner-1.9_1.9%7Ecvs20080506t1349%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1%7Efta1%7Ehardy_i386.deb
[21:18] <Jazzva> Just read that Vietnamese lang pack had some malware since february... so I'm wondered if we're affected.
[21:18] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: it will download than let me know when your ready
[21:18] <fta_> Jazzva, iirc, our lang packs come from upstream
[21:18] <Jazzva> I posted a link few hours ago... nobody commented and I think it might be a problem for us too... Here's the link again http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2008/050708-mozilla-firefox-plugin-shipped-with.html
[21:19] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: yeah i saw that
[21:19] <fta_> Jazzva, dl it and see by yourself (i said dl, not install ;))
[21:19] <gnomefreak> i never read it because i was really really busy
[21:19] <Jazzva> fta_: Heh :)
[21:19] <gnomefreak> this thing is gonna choke
[21:20] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> done
[21:20] <Gorzak> how i install ?
[21:20] <Jazzva> firefox2 langpacks are  still separated?
[21:20] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: sudo dpkg -i xul and hit tab button to finish the package name
[21:20] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: yes
[21:21] <Gorzak> (sorry if i am very directly in ma language, i am french, and my english isn't very good)
[21:21] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: ok ill give you full command
[21:21] <Gorzak> no it's good
[21:21] <Gorzak> it's loading
[21:21] <Gorzak> it's done so
[21:21] <gnomefreak> ok cool restart ff and try those sites
[21:21] <Gorzak> i test again
[21:22] <gnomefreak> this adding tracks is gonna take forever
[21:22] <Gorzak> it's longer the running of ff
[21:23] <fta_> gnomefreak, xul alone is not enough, ff3 should match otherwise you're looking for troubles
[21:23] <Gorzak> mattis@mattis-feisty:~$ firefox
[21:23] <Gorzak> Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9b5 and 1.9b5.
[21:23] <fta_> here you are :)
[21:23] <gnomefreak> thats right
[21:23] <Jazzva> hmm, looks like we're not shipping vietnamese langpack :).
[21:23] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: you need new ff3 also
[21:23] <gnomefreak> let me get it
[21:24] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14333961/firefox-3.0_3.0%7Ecvs20080506t1400%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1%7Efta1%7Ehardy_i386.deb
[21:24] <gnomefreak> and install it than restart ff and test
[21:25] <gnomefreak> i did yesterday when testing my blam bug i should have rememberd
[21:26] <gnomefreak> fta: songbird scans and imports faster than i would have thought
[21:26] <gnomefreak> just wish it was automated and once i make a playlist it will be :)
[21:27] <gnomefreak> as long as a playlist is text not really the mp3s themselves
[21:28] <gnomefreak> 245 tracks added so far
[21:28] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> i go sleep, see you tomorrow,the page is loading
[21:29] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: ok good night
[21:29] <fta> damn, songbird don't work on amd64
[21:29] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11016/
[21:30] <gnomefreak> is that build failure or running failure?
[21:30] <fta> build
[21:31] <gnomefreak> that cant be good (good thing i have 386) ;)
[21:32] <gnomefreak> does it even build for 64bit from upstream. i mean do they have a 64 bit version?
[21:32] <fta> yes
[21:33] <gnomefreak> cant you build thier versioj with dh_build or using the moz file to build it (cant remember name of file)
[21:34] <fta> eh?
[21:34] <gnomefreak> mozilla shipa  file in thier source as i recall (cant rembmer name off hand but its like a mozilla make file
[21:34] <fta> mozconfig
[21:35] <gnomefreak> if you have 64 bit try and build it that way you know if its upstream or debian dir
[21:35] <gnomefreak> thats it thanks
[21:35] <fta> but here, it's a problem with a 3rd party dep, not with songbird itself
[21:35] <gnomefreak> this is assuming you are running 64bit arch
[21:35] <gnomefreak> oh
[21:36] <gnomefreak> i have music!!!!!!!!
[21:37] <gnomefreak> damn its cchoppy
[21:39] <fta> pulseaudio ?
[21:41] <gnomefreak> songbird
[21:41] <gnomefreak> but it stopped after first somg :(
[21:43] <fta> bug 190754
[21:43] <gnomefreak> its either that or a load on PC when i was lowering ff3
[21:44] <fta> for me, it plays fine, i've listen to it for a few hours yesterday
[21:45] <gnomefreak> i need to figure out 1 why library turned upside down after playing first song 2 why it didnt play 2nd song 3 how to take all somgs aand create a playlist all at once
[21:47] <fta> find . -type f -iname \*.mp3 -print > mageplaylist.m3u
[21:47] <fta> mega
[21:47] <gnomefreak> what does that do?
[21:48] <gnomefreak> and where in songbird or in terminal
[21:48] <fta> in a term, move to where all your mp3 are, then do that
[21:48] <gnomefreak> and you mean megaplaylist
[21:48] <fta> and load that m3u file in songbird
[21:49] <gnomefreak> ok will try
[21:49] <gnomefreak> i guess i should empty all the files first
[21:50]  * asac landed
[21:50] <gnomefreak> like nickelback dir has all thier songs
[21:50] <gnomefreak> welcome back asac :)
[21:50] <fta> empty all the files ?
[21:51] <gnomefreak> each band has its own files and each cd has its own files insid ethe band folder
[21:51] <gnomefreak> s/files/folder
[21:52] <gnomefreak> example :~/Music/music/metallica/kill ne all/song.mp3
[21:52] <fta> and ?
[21:53] <fta> it will work
[21:53] <gnomefreak> that command has to be run where the mp3s are or anywher einside ~/Music/music
[21:54] <gnomefreak> like run it where metallicas mp3s are than  change to ironmadien and run it there also
[21:54] <fta> doesn't matter much, the content will be relative to the m3u location
[21:55] <gnomefreak> ok trying to load it now to see what it has :)
[21:55] <gnomefreak>  thanks
[21:56] <gnomefreak> it worked great :)
[21:57] <gnomefreak> does this mean i can remove all my mp3s and just keep playlist?
[21:57] <fta> lol, no
[21:57] <gnomefreak> oh
[21:57] <fta> it's not magic
[21:59] <gnomefreak> asac: i cleaned up the bugs wiki and got caught up with songbird
[21:59] <gnomefreak> i have a few im reading to see what can be changed
[22:02] <fta> asac, the jsm patch totally broke songbird, i've reverted it for now. http://pastebin.com/f7b856572
[22:02] <fta> it was too simple
[22:07] <fta> for sure, songbird handles japanese better than rhythmbox
[22:07] <fta> but i don't like this dark look
[22:07] <gnomefreak> its changable
[22:07] <gnomefreak> im sure we can ship with any feather
[22:08] <fta> i know, i've tried a few feathers but none integrates well with my desktop
[22:08] <gnomefreak> ah im gonna trya  few as well
[22:09] <gnomefreak> i have default background on this desktop :( but i have a ton of others i can try
[22:09] <gnomefreak> this is taking a while brb while it loads
[22:10] <fta> took 3 minutes to import my whole collection
[22:15]  * asac reboots
[22:17] <asac> fta: the idea was just to remove the .jsm files from COMPONENTS ... not DYNAMIC_LIB
[22:17] <gnomefreak> fta: is it possible to use thier report a bug in Help for LP or should we add another one (assuming this is a go for intrepid
[22:17] <asac> fta: and not the .js files
[22:17] <fta> oops, did that in a hurry
[22:17] <fta> damn me
[22:17] <asac> just the .jsm files that are otherwise installed as JSMODULES
[22:18] <asac> yep
[22:18] <gnomefreak> cool a ubuntu feather :)
[22:19] <gnomefreak> it matches my desktop since is default one
[22:19] <gnomefreak> the default feather is called rubberducky
[22:21] <fta> screenshot ?
[22:22] <gnomefreak> of ubuntu one?
[22:22] <fta> yes
[22:22] <gnomefreak> ok give me a minure
[22:22] <gnomefreak> minute
[22:22] <fta> i've tried one, it was ugly (too many effects)
[22:23] <gnomefreak> as soon as im done freeze
[22:23] <Jazzva> asac, you assigned me to bug 226195. Should I prepare the upgrade to the new upstream version?  (since you mentioned that you're reassigning it to me for now)
[22:24] <asac> Jazzva: i talked to norsetto about your MOTU thing. he mentioned a few names for which you could take over the merges (as they are inactive) and said that this might be interesting for you as well
[22:25] <asac> Jazzva: if you don't want it just unassign it again i guess
[22:25] <asac> maybe try to figure, why debian doesn't have this package or if they have, why they didn't update it
[22:25] <Jazzva> asac: Ah, ok. Thanks for the help :). I'll work on it during weekend. Just to finish liferea and tracker merges :)
[22:25] <asac> maybe its completely broken? or has licensing issues?
[22:25] <asac> Jazzva: yeah. i told him that you are working on those too
[22:26] <Jazzva> Thanks :)
[22:26] <asac> Jazzva: the other names you could delibrarately work on are:
[22:26] <asac> 13:20 < norsetto> asac: Marco Rodrigues, William Lima, Barry deFreese (he usually doesn't mind)
[22:27] <Jazzva> asac: Ok, as soon as I finish current ones :). I also wanted to ask you, since I saw you were working on liferea, and pochu isn't around atm... We are building liferea against xulrunner, and not webkit, right?
[22:27] <asac> but i think he thought that this mediaplayer would fit into mozillateam work you are already doing ;)
[22:27] <asac> yes
[22:27] <asac> Jazzva: but better ask pochu so he gets to know you ;)
[22:28] <asac> this about getting a few more folks to know you so you can CC them ;)
[22:28] <asac> Jazzva: and asking some questions in addition to the final patch review helps to get you know better ;)
[22:28] <Jazzva> asac: I will bug him later/tomorrow :)... But I would also like to finish as much as I can now, so I can bug him only about the details.
[22:28] <asac> Jazzva: but yes. xulrunner-1.9 for now
[22:28] <asac> sure, not urgent
[22:29] <asac> Jazzva: if debian provides both backends we might wnat to do the same
[22:29] <Jazzva> asac: Just because I noticed some changes in webkit, which were imported by debian... I left debian changes, since we're not in the need of that .c file :).
[22:30] <asac> Jazzva: the idea is to get liferea as close to debian as possible. .e.g. merging, then looking what ubuntu changes to keep
[22:30] <Jazzva> asac: That's what I'm trying to do so far :)
[22:30] <asac> good
[22:30] <asac> Jazzva: are you using merge-o-matic?
[22:30] <asac> e.g. the script?
[22:30] <Jazzva> yep
[22:30] <asac> fine ;)
[22:31] <asac> i guess you are on right track then
[22:31] <gnomefreak> fta: http://www.flickr.com/photos/26378196@N05/2477061830/
[22:31] <Jazzva> :)
[22:31] <gnomefreak> sorry i had to set up account and feed dog
[22:31] <asac> http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/05/firefox-infects.html
[22:32] <Jazzva> asac: We don't ship vietnamese, checked a while ago :)
[22:32] <asac> sure?
[22:32] <gnomefreak> i need an empty pad :(
[22:33] <asac> lets hope its not in the ffox3 locales we ship
[22:33] <Jazzva> Well, it's not in the archives... at least not under -vn code, and apt-cache search doesn't find anything when searching for vietnamese and firefox.
[22:33] <asac> i think we ship one in language-pack-gnome-vi-base
[22:33] <Jazzva> But this is FF2-related...
[22:33] <fta> gnomefreak, that's the one i've tried. i don't like it, it's alien on a gnome desktop, despite the similar colors with the heron
[22:33] <asac> yeah ... is hope enough?
[22:33] <gnomefreak> asac: is there a chance of shipping them separate from g-l-p
[22:33] <gnomefreak> fta: thats true i just installed a bunch of them though :)
[22:34] <asac> yes, thats the idea. i will try to promote them for 8.04.1 ... just have to talk into the kde folks
[22:34] <asac> and convince them that they want those too
[22:35] <Jazzva> asac: http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2008/050708-mozilla-firefox-plugin-shipped-with.html It says it only affects FF2 langpack. And I don't think we have that one, if we're shipping langpacks separated from gnome-locale for FF2...
[22:35] <gnomefreak> well if kde users are goinna use ff than it is only smart
[22:36] <gnomefreak> we can name the package gnome-firefox-locales or something like that no?
[22:36] <Jazzva> Checked, we don't have neither -vi, nor -vn
[22:36] <gnomefreak> that way its not for kde and still separate
[22:36] <gnomefreak> whats vn?
[22:36] <gnomefreak> vi is vetnaeise(sp)
[22:36] <gnomefreak> i think
[22:37] <Jazzva> Found it as vietnamese code on google... not sure which one is right, so I checked both :)
[22:37] <fta> ssh voyager
[22:37] <fta> oops
[22:37] <gnomefreak> fta: i will try the rest i installed (what color is your desktop?) so if i find one i think goes good i can let you know
[22:38] <fta> gnomefreak, i'm back to default, i like the heron.. for now.
[22:38] <gnomefreak> ok with the bird in the middle?
[22:38] <asac> Jazzva: yeah thanks
[22:38] <fta> gnomefreak, yes
[22:38] <Jazzva> No prob...
[22:38] <gnomefreak> fta: ok cool
[22:38] <gnomefreak> i will coninute more in a bit
[22:40] <Jazzva> asac: We can still check vietnames locale pack, just to be 100% sure...
[22:43] <asac> Jazzva: do we know how the trojan is implemented?
[22:44] <gnomefreak> doesnt prism have a flicker thing?
[22:44] <fta> not in ubuntu but probably elsewhere
[22:44] <Jazzva> asac: Well, I'm not sure. I think I read on mozilla bug 432406 it calls some javascripts from .xhtml files. So, I suppose it could affect Linux too...
[22:44] <fta> but just run prism and fill the form
[22:46] <Jazzva> asac: The main virus is a Win32 program. The infected code just display annoying banner but it can't propagate. A quote from bug report...
[22:46] <gnomefreak> ut oh
[22:46] <gnomefreak> i think i found conflict that i didnt expect
[22:46] <gnomefreak> wordpress: Depends: libjs-prototype but it is not installable Depends: libjs-scriptaculous but it is not installable
[22:47] <gnomefreak> are any of htose libs in a PPA?
[22:48] <gnomefreak> ah ok its wordpress that isnt spun for intrepid
[22:48] <fta> no idea, i don't have that in my apt cache
[22:49] <gnomefreak> fta: the libjs?
[22:50] <fta> fta@ix:~ $ apt-cache show libjs-prototype
[22:50] <fta> fta@ix:~ $ apt-cache show libjs-scriptaculous
[22:50] <fta> fta@ix:~ $
[22:50] <gnomefreak> i dont remember that dialog being there
[23:01] <[reed]> asac: ping
[23:01] <[reed]> Jazzva: it was an unofficial lang pack
[23:02] <[reed]> uploaded to AMO
[23:02] <Jazzva> [reed]: Ok, thanks :).
[23:02] <[reed]> this has been way overblown
[23:10] <fta> asac, does this speak to you: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11016/
[23:34] <fta> http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/2008/05/8/#gedit-support
[23:35] <gnomefreak> who has a planet ubuntu blog?
[23:49] <gnomefreak> once i get my planet thing editing im gonna blog about m-e-d team i think
[23:49] <fta> m-e-d team ?
[23:49] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: to request extensions are we using the wiki or would you rather let them request it on ML than we do the wiki
[23:50] <gnomefreak> fta: mozilla-extensions-dev team
[23:50] <fta> k
[23:50] <gnomefreak> plus it gives me a chance to test my edit
[23:51]  * gnomefreak thinks people will be put off from the wiki if they dont know any better
[23:52] <gnomefreak> deleted heads/gnomefreak.png
[23:52] <gnomefreak> that cant be good
[23:52] <gnomefreak> oh ok theres a gnomefreak.png2
[23:53] <gnomefreak> or gnomefreak2.png