[04:53] <matju> how do i edit a theme in a way more fine-grained than putting three theme-pieces together? i mean, for example, changing the orange to something else, but keeping all same icons.
[04:53] <eternalswd> Madpilot, that's interesting, never knew
[04:53] <kholerabbi> eternalswd: ogg is video and/or audio. I have a .wmv video which I expect has wm encoded sound. I want to convert this file so it plays as ogg (vorbis/theora)
[04:53] <matju> newUbuntu, either /usr/local or /home/matju
[04:54] <matju> newUbuntu, besides, it's /usr/local and not /user/local
[04:54] <eternalswd> kholerabbi, the easiest is probably vlc
[04:54] <motin> I'd greatly appriciate it if you took the time to check out the problem of getting tv-out to work on a hp pavilion dv4000 with the intel i915gm graphics card: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1512441
[04:54] <carlsagan> matju, impossible
[04:54] <CuriousMonkey> Is the Giga-byte GA-965P-DS3 motherboard good minus the inux issues? trying to decide on which motherboard to get and am eventually going to put ubuntu on it
[04:54] <newUbuntu> ** oh sory Matju . yes /usr/local :)
[04:54] <matju> carlsagan, how does one make a theme then? in a text editor?
[04:54] <newUbuntu> **thank you
[04:54] <azureal> System.out.println("ubuntu!");
[04:54] <carlsagan> matju: yes you can edit them in the geditor
[04:55] <kholerabbi> eternalswd: the vlc player will convert the file for me?
[04:55] <irawan> carlsagan: here we use ubuntu
[04:55] <matju> carlsagan, any idea why there isn't an editor for themes, like in kde ?
[04:56] <eternalswd> kholerabbi, let me just clarify, you want the audio from a wmv to be converted to an ogg audio file without the video?
[04:56] <carlsagan> irawan, sorry can you add a detail?
[04:56] <matju> Crippy-Boy, where's the java?
[04:56] <carlsagan> matju: i don't know i didn't write one yet
[04:56] <matju> carlsagan, which file(s) would i have to edit?
[04:56] <kholerabbi> eternalswd: NO :). I want the whole video file, including the audio to be converted to a single ogg file.
[04:56] <Crippy-Boy> I only ever used java a few times, i hated it. Then again im only just coming round to the idea of OO, Too long programming in c i guess
[04:57] <kholerabbi> Crippy-Boy: php-gtk is nice
[04:57] <matju> Crippy-Boy, the real reasons for hating java don't have anything to do with OO
[04:57] <gu014> one of my dvd drives continues to lose its dma settings.. even after a 'sudo hdparm -d1 -k1 /dev/hdb' is there any other commans i should be aware of?
[04:57] <eternalswd> kholerabbi, okay, then no vlc will not work, it will only do the ogg audio
[04:57] <gu014> commands*
[04:57] <carlsagan> oo is not that useful
[04:57] <kholerabbi> eternalswd: damn
[04:57] <SpudDogg> When I mount a network folder via Places -> Connect to server... Doesn't that assign it a local folder?  For example /media/sharename?  or /mnt/sharename?
[04:57] <Crippy-Boy> kholerabbi, What exactly does php-gtk have to do with anything? :P
[04:57] <all-natural> for some reason my usb disk drive doesn't mount on boot, and it says that i don't have the privilages to view it when i mount it manualy. does anyone no a way around this?
[04:57] <Crippy-Boy> oo seems very useful.
[04:57] <kholerabbi> Crippy-Boy: nice programming language :)
[04:57] <Crippy-Boy> matju: like....?
[04:58] <azureal> it is useful..
[04:58] <Crippy-Boy> kholerabbi: php is aweful, IMO
[04:58] <kholerabbi> heheh
[04:58] <matju> carlsagan, those who claim that they don't do OO, reinvent it themselves in some way... and inconsistently.
[04:58] <azureal> but then again, i'm not an addict to programming... only did a few things in java
[04:58] <rubyphyte> how do I mount a (ntfs) hdd and have it be accessible as the default user (I tried using the administration/disks) but it doesn't mount as readable
[04:58] <azureal> being a gamer does that to you..
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> The DeFacto NTFS Guide (and good info for vfat as well) --->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[04:59] <carlsagan> matju: lisp nazis say the same thing about lisp
[04:59] <carlsagan> i am not phased
[04:59] <matju> carlsagan, just because lisp nazis are nazis doesn't mean they're wrong...
[04:59] <azureal> rubyphyte, /dev/<where it is>       /mnt/<mount point>  ntfs    users,umask=0222,ro  0 0
[05:00] <matju> Crippy-Boy, like the lousy type system it has had prior to 1.5, which requires a damn lot of casts to do anything
[05:00] <azureal> that goes in fstab, as you probably already know
[05:00] <matju> Crippy-Boy, (though not as many casts as one would have to do in C)
[05:01] <Coag> shower -->
[05:01] <Crippy-Boy> matju: fair enough, as i said i havent really used java much
[05:02] <Crippy-Boy> Im slowly going towards Python, I love it so far, for what i need to do anyway...
[05:02] <matju> Crippy-Boy, actually i could write about it for very long, but i have other things to do.
[05:02] <eternalswd> kholerabbi, do you mind the file being ogm rather than ogg, cause I thought ogm was ogg video plus ogg audio or am I totally confused?
[05:02] <rubyphyte> I go it by using the -o uid option, but why isn't that doable through the disks manager...it seems like it kind of defeats the purpose of having one if you have to go to the command prompt anyway
[05:03] <Crippy-Boy> matju: fair enough, I s'pose no language is perfect, Each have their use :-)
[05:03] <kitche> rubyphyte: well ntfs support in linux is iffy at the moment but there has been progress
[05:03] <Toma-> im trying to checkinstall a build of exo, but its conflicting with libexo. any tips?
[05:04] <carlsagan> no
[05:04] <rubyphyte> kitche: is it that its NTFS I thought it was more just the default security option, as only giving root access
[05:05] <rubyphyte> kitche: certainly it had no problem mounting the drive (though of course read-only)
[05:05] <abusado> Im pissed off with dapper im going back to Breazy
[05:05] <abusado> \
[05:05] <kitche> rubyphyte: yeah it reads fine but writing is hard to do it can corrupt the data real easy
[05:07] <eternalswd> anyone know how to determine the dependencies required by a checkinstall deb
[05:07] <carlsagan> is there anyone who is confused about how the internet work?
[05:07] <carlsagan> and can give some tips?
[05:07] <eternalswd> anyone know how to determine the dependencies required by a checkinstall generated deb rather
[05:07] <kitche> carlsagan: what do you mean it's not hard to figure out though there is a lot of theory that might nto understand though
[05:08] <carlsagan> yes the theory would be a good place
[05:08] <carlsagan> can you help?
[05:09] <coder___> Anyone 64bit Ubuntu users here?
[05:09] <coder___> The gimp binary file that came with my Ubuntu AMD 64bit install won't run
[05:09] <coder___> gimp just segfaults
[05:10] <nownot> anyone know a program to play 3g2 files?
[05:10] <omar> how to configure my ecolution, I follow the steps but it still doesn't work, also, when I open evolution it doesn't ask me for a password , weird isn't it?
[05:11] <kitche> coder__: that might be to do with memory or how it was compiled hard to tell really since sometiems it works for me and other times it doesn't
[05:11] <Toma-> eternalswd: youll need to use a control file and use dpkg... not checkinstall
[05:11] <eternalswd> Toma, is there a good guide for that somewhere?
[05:11] <coder___> Nobody else is getting this?
[05:12] <coder___> GIMP doesn't run on 64 bit AMD?
[05:12] <Toma-> probably... google: deb control file
[05:12] <jZed> on 6.06, I followed wiki to download xine, codecs, etc. still no sound :-(
[05:12] <Languid> anyone know why amarok no longer automatically uses my folder.jpg album art files when i play an album?
[05:12] <omar> how to configure my ecolution, I follow the steps but it still doesn't work, also, when I open evolution it doesn't ask me for a password , weird isn't it?
[05:12] <kitche> coder____: I don't think it does but I don't have a x86_64 system
[05:13] <THX-1138> Hi! How does apt regenerate the locally cached file list?     I want to save some ubuntu bandwidth by saving /var/cache/apt/archives   and re-copying those files to a fresh install.
[05:13] <coder___> I mean, it came installed with the system, but it segfaults when I try to run it
[05:13] <carlsagan> can you chroot me into the ubuntu directory?
[05:14] <kitche> coder__: well I know some software is iffy right now with x86_64
[05:14] <rcsolutions> What applications can I run with WINE?
[05:14] <coder___> Ehhh, GIMP is really important/needed for me :P
[05:14] <Toma-> rcsolutions: anything from appdb
[05:14] <bieb> !wine
[05:14] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:14] <coder___> rcsolutions: http://appdb.winehq.org/appbrowse.php
[05:15] <rcsolutions> thanks
[05:15] <THX-1138> Most everything that doesn't rely heavily on directx or cd content  protection schemes - cedega does a bit better with DX and copy protection
[05:16] <THX-1138> frankscorner is also a good site for information on wine
[05:16] <jZed> any ideas on what to try to get sound on 6.06? I followed the wiki, got codecs etc. still no sound
[05:16] <kitche> jZed: sound on what?
[05:16] <indigoblu> jZed, no sound works at all or just a specific codec?
[05:17] <maikol> i added new modes to xorg.conf, restarted x, and they are still not in the resolution thing of gnome
[05:17] <jZed> I can get system sounds but can't play .ogg or audio cd with rythymbox or juk
[05:17] <indigoblu> maikol, did XOrg's log say anything?
[05:17] <kitche> jZed: could be that the audio is still being used
[05:17] <maikol> indigoblu: whers that at
[05:18] <indigoblu> maikol, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | more
[05:18] <jZed> kitche : I dunno, how would I tell if audio being used?
[05:18] <indigoblu> maikol, that will allow you to step through the log file
[05:18] <holycow> lol
[05:18] <omar> how to configure my evolution, I follow the steps but it still doesn't work, also, when I open evolution it doesn't ask me for a password , weird isn't it?
[05:18] <maikol> indigoblu: ok cool
[05:18] <holycow> johny mnemonic is funny
[05:19] <holycow> keaneau reeves just doubled the memory capacity of his brain
[05:19] <holycow> from 80 gigabytes
[05:19] <indigoblu> maikol, otherwise post your config on pastebin or something and i can look at it
[05:19] <holycow> to 160 gigabytes
[05:19] <SpudDogg> Has anyone here ever played with "3ddesktop" seen in Ubuntu's Synaptec?
[05:19] <holycow> of course he was give a warning 'do not overuse'
[05:19] <holycow> lol
[05:19] <kitche> holycow: you do know that he didn't right lol
[05:20] <z0rz> I'm looking for a slimmed down version of Ubuntu .. I want to run it on a slower machine .. is Xubuntu that much faster?
[05:20] <holycow> kitche, i'm just at that point
[05:20] <Madpilot> z0rz, it should be - depends on how old & slow your slower machine is, though
[05:21] <holycow> oh my god
[05:21] <holycow> the matrix totally ripped whole portions of this
[05:21] <z0rz> well I kinda want it to just be a server .. but I also want a windows manager for when I want to use it as a Desktop
[05:21] <holycow> three people in trench coats are coming up in an elevator
[05:21] <Toma-> z0rz: i run xubuntu on a 266mhz with 128mb ram
[05:21] <holycow> heh
[05:21] <Crippy-Boy> z0rz: try Fluxbox :-)
[05:21] <maikol> indigoblu: the only WW i get (no EE, NI, or ??) is that font directory is missing and an nvidia warning that no modes where requested, using nvidia-auto-select
[05:22] <Madpilot> holycow, #ubuntu-offtopic is thataway to chat about Johnny Mnemonic, please
[05:22] <z0rz> After reading what toma said I think I'll just install xubuntu
[05:22] <Toma-> z0rz: mind you, i install fluxbox aswell. just for simplicity
[05:22] <nownott> ok i have some 3g2 files from my phone that i want to play but there is no sound, anyone know how to fix this?
[05:22] <carlsagan> does anyone here have ubuntnu?
[05:23] <Toma-> nownott: 3g2?
[05:23] <indigoblu> maikol, msg me your section on video modes
[05:23] <Crippy-Boy> 3gp?
[05:23] <carlsagan> anyone can help meh with a ubuntu problems
[05:23] <carlsagan> ?
[05:23] <nownott> yes similiar to 3gp which i can play with sound
[05:23] <holycow> mr. sagan, just ask
[05:23] <nownott> i can rename but still no sound
[05:23] <z0rz> Toma- so what is your primary windows manager right now?
[05:23] <holycow> his name is mr. smith
[05:24] <Toma-> nownott: sounds like more proprietry formats that need destroying
[05:24] <holycow> Madpilot, lol indeed :)
[05:24] <nownott> well like i said its off a cell phone
[05:24] <Toma-> z0rz: im on xfce 4.4rc1 on my 2Ghz pc
[05:24] <Toma-> still running xfce on the other
[05:25] <Crippy-Boy> xfce is pretty nice after some poking and proding
[05:25] <Xfacter> hello all
[05:25] <Crippy-Boy> Enlightenment is also looking pretty damn sweet :D
[05:25] <carlsagan> does anyone here have ubuntnu?
[05:25] <Xfacter> does anyone know if handling of the jmicron controller has been fixed in knot 3?
[05:28] <Toma-> on a side note, xfce 4.4 complied with hal+dbus support absolutely ROCKS.
[05:28] <maikol> indigoblu: did you get it all
[05:29] <THX-1138> If files are copied to /var/cache/apt/archives will they be used before more files are downloaded?
[05:29] <bruenig> THX-1138, what do you mean used?
[05:29] <Toma-> THX-1138: yep
[05:30] <Hmmmm> hey guys, im using edgy, and my firefox keeps crashing. anyone faced a similar problem?
[05:30] <lotusleaf> THX-1138: they're installed but retained if you so desire via preferences
[05:30] <Toma-> Hmmmm: #ubuntu+1
[05:30] <bruenig> Hmmmm, it is a beta but yeah the development channel
[05:30] <jZed> still no sound from .ogg or audio CD... have apps and codecs per wiki, can hear system sounds ... any ideas, anyone?
[05:30] <JoseStefan> Xfacter, #ubuntu+1
[05:30] <THX-1138> I saved my cache hoping to save some ubuntu bandwidth.  - going to try creating an install script for those files next - one click done. ;)
[05:31] <carlsagan> One Click Done.
[05:31] <carlsagan> Xfacter. Ubnutu One Click.
[05:31] <rcsolutions> How do I change my resolution to 32-bit color?
[05:31] <bruenig> THX-1138, shouldn't be too hard. dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
[05:31] <carlsagan> there is no 32 bit color
[05:31] <carlsagan> 24 is fine for you
[05:31] <nwbreneman> Could somebody please tell me how to download flash videos I can watch in my browser?  That is only in concept though
[05:32] <nwbreneman> Okay, I'll try FluxD's suggestion.
[05:33] <rcsolutions> I am trying to execute an application on WINE and it asks for 32-bit color resolution. (OR 16-bit)
[05:33] <FluxD> but I am not sure how you would be able to play in ubunu though as bruenig said
[05:33] <THX-1138> bruenig - np - worth a try. - only takes a couple of minutes to boot the cd again.
[05:33] <nwbreneman> Well, I'll try it at least.
[05:33] <indigoblu> maikol, strange, you said you restarted X too?
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> synaptic says I have 1 broken package and to use the filter,  using the filter shows tons of programs not just the 1 broken program
[05:33] <FluxD> Is there a gui for tor in ubuntu?
[05:33] <rcsolutions> can I change my resolution to 16-bit color?
[05:33] <dennisharrison_A> rcsolutions, look in your wine config files somewhere?
[05:34] <indigoblu> maikol, what kind of monitor?  did you install nvidia non-open drivers?
[05:34] <THX-1138> bruenig - GA-a-k lol! - unresolved dependencies. - it dpkgs alphbetically i guess.
[05:34] <FluxD> rcsolutions why go with 16 when you can get 24?
[05:34] <FluxD> Is there a gui for tor in ubuntu?
[05:35] <maikol> indigoblu: monitor that comes with the laptop, nvidia is installed correctly
[05:36] <indigoblu> maikol, what is resolution on monitor 1680x1050?
[05:36] <maikol> indigoblu: yeah
[05:36] <rcsolutions> FluxD, I am trying to execute an application on WINE and it asks for 32-bit color resolution. (OR 16-bit). but dennisharrison_A on this channel, told me there is not a 32-bit resolution
[05:36] <indigoblu> maikol, how did you restart X? did you reboot or just log out?
[05:37] <maikol> indigoblu: loged out, killed gdm started gdm again loged back in
[05:37] <Aberrant22> Evening folks...got an Filesystem question
[05:37] <CaptainKidd> how do I find out what port ubuntu is listening for incoming ssh on ?
[05:37] <indigoblu> maikol, that will do it..... mmmm
[05:37] <THX-1138> rc  - try 24bit
[05:37] <dennisharrison_A> rcsolutions, dude 24bit with 8bit alpha is what windows considers 32bit
[05:37] <Aberrant22> I want to format a hdd that is currently NTFS into EXT3, but when I look at the drive properties the format option is disabled
[05:37] <indigoblu> CaptainKidd, not installed by default
[05:37] <CaptainKidd> I know that
[05:38] <CaptainKidd> ..
[05:38] <CaptainKidd> whats the command
[05:38] <Aberrant22> How can I format the NTFS drive?
[05:38] <dennisharrison_A> rcsolutions, read some google.com/linux about wine 32bit
[05:38] <indigoblu> CaptainKidd, netstat -na | grep tcp
[05:38] <CaptainKidd> k
[05:38] <indigoblu> CaptainKidd, cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep Listen
[05:38] <dennisharrison_A> or look up specifically what program you are trying to run with wine after it
[05:38] <FluxD> anyone Is there a gui for tor in ubuntu?
[05:38] <dennisharrison_A> and look for what others have done
[05:38] <THX-1138> dennisharrison - Windows redifining the words - who woulda guessed. - lol
[05:38] <carlsagan> you know what you doing... for great justice.
[05:39] <rindolf> Hi all!
[05:39] <jnt30> anyone very experienced with rtl8180 driver set and WPA?
[05:39] <dennisharrison_A> THX-1138, lol did you see the /. story about some guy getting mad about microsoft trying to re-define the word genuine? ;p
[05:39] <indigoblu> Aberrant22, fdisk it, then mk2fs -j /dev/<partitions>
[05:39] <carlsagan> fsck
[05:39] <THX-1138> I sure did. - and it isn't the first time either.
[05:39] <rindolf> This link - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_configure_network_connections - tells me I need to run System -> Administration -> Networking but this option is not available in my Kubuntu system. Where can I find it?
[05:40] <carlsagan> rindolf, use ubuntu
[05:40] <rcsolutions> thanks dennisharrison_A
[05:40] <jnt30> or the kubuntu channel :)
[05:40] <rindolf> carlsagan: I am using Ubuntu.
[05:40] <dennisharrison_A> rcsolutions, no problem
[05:40] <Crippy-Boy> dennisharrison_A: link plz? :P
[05:40] <Aberrant22> I'll try that out, thank indigoblu
[05:40] <andy_> Can anyone tell me where i can find the "my network places" in ubuntu?
[05:40] <carlsagan> rindolf, you say "kubntu"
[05:40] <dennisharrison_A> THX-1138, no doubt
[05:40] <JaZy84> can someone assist me with editing my fstab i have a drive on /dev/hdb1 which i've added however i want the user 'test' to access the drive althought he can't write to it (ntfs drive)
[05:40] <rindolf> carlsagan: I meant Kubuntu.
[05:40] <JaZy84> right now i get premission denied when even trying to list it
[05:40] <dennisharrison_A> Crippy-Boy, for the article from /. ?
[05:40] <carlsagan> andy_, you are theniking for windows
[05:40] <Crippy-Boy> yup
[05:41] <carlsagan> rindolf, #kubuntu
[05:41] <rindolf> carlsagan: OK.
[05:41] <andy_> i meant the equivilent, sorry
[05:41] <jnt30> jazy, what is the problem you are having with fstab?
[05:41] <carlsagan> andy: network neighborhood
[05:41] <JaZy84> i want to mount it so that the user 'test' can access the drive
[05:41] <JaZy84> like i know writing is out, but just reading.
[05:42] <dennisharrison_A> http://slashdot.org/articles/06/09/16/2252259.shtml
[05:42] <JaZy84> /dev/hdb1	/mnt/stuff	ntfs	auto		0	0
[05:42] <JaZy84> what it has right now
[05:42] <jnt30> you need to add a user=username option
[05:42] <jnt30> etc.
[05:42] <JaZy84> cool
[05:42] <Crippy-Boy> thanks
[05:42] <jnt30> or you can set up a "credentials" file
[05:43] <jnt30> which I would suggest
[05:43] <JaZy84> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1 when i add user=test
[05:44] <jnt30> one sec, I'll take a look at mine agian
[05:44] <firefly2442> anyone know of a php script to create a SSH client over a web browser to use a remote machine?
[05:44] <bruenig> I was in the middle of downloading something from a repository and closed the terminal now I can't do anything for when I do I get this E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable), E: Unable to lock the download directory. I think there is some command that has the word configure in it and a -a somewhere but I forget what it is
[05:44] <JaZy84> bruenig,  do you have
[05:45] <JaZy84> the synaptic open
[05:45] <JaZy84> ?
[05:45] <JaZy84> the pkg manager
[05:45] <bruenig> no
[05:45] <JaZy84> hrm.
[05:45] <carlsagan> i think someone got me hacked on ubuntu
[05:45] <carlsagan> is there a fix
[05:45] <bruenig> it is something. configure -a or what not
[05:45] <JaZy84> well there goes my guess
[05:46] <TJ> whats the best way to get edgy beta?
[05:46] <dennisharrison_A> goat sacrifice ;p
[05:46] <JaZy84> well i got it via reinstall
[05:46] <bruenig> TJm download the disk image
[05:46] <JaZy84> i've heard there are problems with dist-upgarades
[05:46] <bruenig> TJ, or there is also a repo
[05:46] <bruenig> there are always problems with dist-upgrades
[05:46] <dennisharrison_A> I haven't upgraded yet
[05:46] <SuperMiguel> any one tried the new gnome?
[05:46] <JaZy84> i heard repo not best option
[05:46] <TJ> yes... there are problems w/ dist upgrades
[05:46] <SuperMiguel> .16?
[05:46] <JaZy84> that's on knot 3
[05:47] <JaZy84> i'm on it now
[05:47] <nwbreneman> FluxD & Bruenig: The flash video I downloaded plays in movie player
[05:47] <JaZy84> no complaints thus far
[05:47] <jnt30> jazy, it's username=NaMe
[05:47] <nwbreneman> it's a .flv format
[05:47] <jnt30> not user
[05:47] <SuperMiguel> JaZy84:  is better than the .14?
[05:47] <nwbreneman> albet it is a bit choppy
[05:47] <bruenig> right, well I though you were talking aobut .swf
[05:47] <bruenig> thought*
[05:47] <nwbreneman> oh, sorry
[05:47] <FluxD> yep
[05:47] <nwbreneman> I found a swf-player for that, though
[05:47] <nwbreneman> or does it not work?
[05:47] <JaZy84> same really SuperMiguel  havn'et seen much difference
[05:48] <JaZy84> right ons jnt30
[05:48] <JaZy84> lemme try
[05:48] <dennisharrison_A> does anyone here know about a flash videoplayer for playing of .mpgs or .. well really anything besides flvs or swfs .. similar to the one googlevideo uses?
[05:48] <SuperMiguel> isnt faster?
[05:48] <bruenig> yeah I bet it looks pretty bad. But perhaps if it syncs that would be nice as my browser has problems synching
[05:48] <JaZy84> same error jnt30
[05:48] <JaZy84> with this line
[05:48] <FluxD> hello anyone know of a gui for TOR in ubuntu?
[05:48] <JaZy84> /dev/hdb1	/mnt/stuff	ntfs	username=cjazinski		0	0
[05:49] <JaZy84> TOR
[05:49] <jnt30> are you using commas to sepearte  your options?
[05:49] <bruenig> tor is for pedophiles right
[05:49] <FluxD> jazy84?
[05:49] <JaZy84> that line is exact out of my fstab
[05:49] <FluxD> lol how so bruenig?
[05:49] <bruenig> to hide all the kiddie porn they are looking at
[05:50] <FluxD> well I guess that too but not all ppl fall in that group
[05:50] <jnt30> jazy84, you want a tab or whatever between all those things, can't tell if you have those
[05:51] <bruenig> dang, another vast generalization fails, when will I find a generalization that doesn't :(
[05:51] <Aberrant22> Okay...fdisk saying "You will not be able to write the partition table" for my NTFS drive...
[05:51] <Aberrant22> does it make a difference that it's in an USB external bay?
[05:51] <bruenig> Aberrant22, you can't write to ntfs
[05:51] <Caplain> how do i get widescreen support?
[05:51] <Aberrant22> GParted also shows it as locked, so I can't even use that
[05:51] <bruenig> or you can but it takes some extra stuff and it experimental
[05:51] <Aberrant22> I know, I'm trying to format the drive to EXT3
[05:51] <JaZy84> jnt30, that's with a tab
[05:51] <bruenig> Abberrant22, just delete the partition and reformat
[05:52] <jnt30> ok
[05:52] <W00T> i just bought a linksys wireless-g 802.11b pci NIC and i need help getting the card to connect to a WEP enabled wireless network SSID "MayberryLand" and WEP PassCode "MayberryLand"
[05:52] <Aberrant22> Won't let me in gparted...it has a lock next to it
[05:52] <bruenig> Abberrant22, you have tried right clicking and clicking deactivate or unmount or whatever it might be in gparted?
[05:52] <field> Hi,does anybody have a running win4lin on dapper
[05:53] <Aberrant22> Awesome, that worked
[05:53] <Aberrant22> sweeet, thanks.  Think I gots it from here.
[05:53] <bruenig> gui always makes it harder Aberrant22
[05:53] <jnt30> Anyone around that is willing to help with a wpa_supplicant issue?
[05:53] <bruenig> umount /dev/hdb1 would have been much easier
[05:53] <carlsagan> no
[05:54] <jnt30> currently using ndiswrapper with the rtl8180 driver set
[05:54] <jnt30> and can get it to work with WEP but not WPA
[05:54] <Aberrant22> bruenig - Yeah, but I'm a newbie...gui's make me feel more comfortable.  I've been working on getting more terminal based, but 'tis a slow process
[05:54] <jnt30> and have worked through the tutorial quite a few times to no evail
[05:54] <dennisharrison_A> Aberrant22, just use the terminal for everything you do for a week ;p
[05:55] <dennisharrison_A> screen and lynx is almost like tabs in firefox :)
[05:55] <bruenig> but with gparted you have to figure out what the lock means how to get it "unlocked" but then again after gparted. I have no desire to rewrite the partition table from command line. Although mounting and unmounting is still easier
[05:55] <bruenig> I mean system based graphical stuff
[05:55] <Farhan> Hi, has anyone tried the latest knot3 edgy release?
[05:55] <x_or> I am trying to use debootstrap to install debian into a swap partition.  I get the error message at the very end of the output:  "E: no /usr/lib/debootstrap/devices.tar.gz. cannot create devices"  Can anyone tell me what this means?
[05:56] <Farhan> i was going to say that.
[05:56] <andy_> i cant seem to find network neighborhood, only linneighborhood. It finds none of the networks it should be seeing.
[05:57] <SpAwN> hello all . i have a usb pendrive....it has worked fine for me so far..till tonight....i plug it in..and dmesg shows this : http://pastebin.ulteo.us/107 but look at this http://pastebin.ulteo.us/108 ....my computer isnt making hte sdb1....all i have is sda* ...ive tried diff usb ports too...same thing.....it doesnt make the /dev/sdb1
[05:57] <Aberrant22> Awesome, got a blank error box with gparted
[05:57] <Aberrant22> quite useful...hehe
[05:57] <Farhan> when i installed the latest ubuntu edgy cd the knot3, i noticed that the gnome desktops will soemone explain why?
[05:57] <Farhan> are blank
[05:57] <bruenig> Farhan, #ubuntu+1
[05:57] <Farhan> hmm?
[05:57] <Farhan> what?
[05:57] <bruenig> that is the channel for edgy
[05:57] <Farhan> oh
[05:58] <Farhan> sorry
[05:58] <patientfox> hey i goofed and tried to install a deb (jEdit) that aparently has broken my apt-get system (its trying to reinstall the package but cant find it , cant upgrade or install new packages) and trying to run dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq isnt doing anything... any thoughts?
[05:58] <andy_> i cant seem to find network neighborhood, only linneighborhood. It finds none of the networks it should be seeing. Anyone know what the problem could be?
[05:59] <patientfox> any help would be appreciated. thank you.
[05:59] <trakie> anyone here know of anything weird happening after installing xgl and compwiz that would make amarok stop working?
[05:59] <shawnr_> is there a program out there that will let me bulk resize images ?
[05:59] <bruenig> perhaps #ubuntu-xgl might know more about such a weird happening
[05:59] <JoseStefan> patientfox: what's the output of sudo dpkg -P <pkgname>
[05:59] <trakie> thanks
[05:59] <manmadha> how to play .swf format?????
[06:00] <bruenig> manmadha, you might try opening it with firefox
[06:00] <bruenig> assuming you have a flash plugin
[06:00] <manmadha> bruenig, ya i tried butt...no use
[06:00] <patientfox> says package is in a very bad inconsistent state - should reinstall before attempting a removal
[06:00] <shawnr_> i need to resize 300+ images, would like something that can bulk resize... will take to long to do it one at a time
[06:00] <shawnr_> anyone?.
[06:00] <patientfox> can i manually stick the .deb in a directory so it can be found?
[06:00] <patientfox> like /var/vache/whatever
[06:00] <manmadha> bruenig, can u give me the link?
[06:00] <patientfox> cache, even
[06:01] <Aberrant22> Awesome, got my external drive working.  Thanks for the help folks.
[06:01] <Aberrant22> Next on my to-do - Get my Ipod working :)
[06:01] <JoseStefan> patientfox: i think dpkg only removes by pkg name, and not .deb
[06:01] <bsdfox> Aberrant22, setup amarok
[06:02] <bruenig> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[06:02] <a514> Hi there i'm using ubuntu 6.06 live cd. d/led the nvidia driver how do i stop the x server?
[06:02] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[06:02] <bruenig> manmadha, assuming you have the multiverse repository enabled, just do sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:02] <bsdfox> a514, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:02] <bsdfox> a514: then ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:02] <manmadha> bruenig, ya i had installed it
[06:03] <Aberrant22> Got a question tho...running my laptop I plan on keeping the majority of music on my external drive.  Will that be an issue with Amorak?  Itunes goes crazy when music "disappears"
[06:03] <patientfox> E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[06:03] <SuperMiguel> whats going up
[06:03] <patientfox> is there somewhere i can put the .deb file so that apt-get can find it?
[06:03] <bruenig> patientfox, you have the jedit deb?
[06:03] <patientfox> yes i do
[06:03] <bsdfox> Aberrant22, you can choose what to add in amarok, don't have to sync the entire collection
[06:03] <bruenig> patientfox, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:03] <bruenig> you might try
[06:04] <Aberrant22> bsdfox Awesome,, thanks...I'll check it out.
[06:04] <manmadha> bruenig,  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:04] <manmadha> Password:
[06:04] <manmadha> Reading package lists... Done
[06:04] <manmadha> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:04] <manmadha> flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.
[06:04] <manmadha> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 88 not upgraded.
[06:04] <bruenig> manmadha, yeah I had already understood you had the plugin. I was just posing a possible solution.
[06:04] <bsdfox> Aberrant22, you need to mount the ipod as /mnt/ipod
[06:04] <manmadha> bruenig, okk
[06:04] <bruenig> that solution failed. firefox won't for some reason play your .swf
[06:04] <bsdfox> Aberrant22, you need to mount it before you open amarok is the only quirk I've found
[06:05] <manmadha> okk
[06:05] <auk_> on the topic of themeing... how can i hide/remove the top-level icon, and only the *top*-level icon, from the gnome menu bar?
[06:05] <JoseStefan> patientfox: sudo dpkg -P --force-all jedit
[06:05] <johnny_> can someone help me with wine
[06:06] <Aberrant22> bsdfox: I'm reading up on the forums...thanks for the heads up tho
[06:06] <bruenig> johnny_, more specific?
[06:06] <johnny_> everything i try and run says subscript out of range
[06:07] <IcemanV9> something is wrong with network-manager - wireless connection is not available anymore. only wired connection. is it bug or what? the version is 0.6.2.
[06:07] <patientfox> JoseStefan: thank you very much
[06:07] <JoseStefan> patientfox: sudo apt-get -f install    (for good measure)
[06:07] <ClayG> anyone here using ssmtp and/or getmail?
[06:08] <james296> how can I get Doom 3 running? I got the compiz thing to make this look all fancy and all that but I dont think that had to do with problems launching my game
[06:08] <ClayG> I need a little help
[06:08] <johnny_> how do i record sound from a flash player when it makes it so nothing else can use the sound card?
[06:08] <johnny_> or what do i use
[06:08] <slavik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23834
[06:08] <slavik> :)
[06:10] <shawnr_> is there a program out there that will let me bulk resize images ?
[06:10] <jay_> [Emergency]  I use 'rm' to delete some files three days ago, but now i found these files are very important, how can i recover thers files?
[06:11] <helter> Hi friends, need some help, how can I install a new locale and set it as my default locale?
[06:11] <mjr> jay_, likely not
[06:11] <bsdfox> uhoh
[06:11] <zenofjazz> Hello, grand and glorious wizards of Ubuntu... I bring a problem.
[06:11] <jay_> Oh, not
[06:11] <bsdfox> zenofjazz, what's your problem
[06:11] <jay_> Can some one help?
[06:11] <Aberrant22> Okay, so this may be a newb question, but now I have my external drive plugged in and powered on...I got it formatted to EXT3, and it's currently unmounted.  Is it safe to unplug it then from my USB?
[06:11] <a514> Hi me again what do i type to stop gdm?
[06:12] <zenofjazz> I've got an IBM server... 1 SCSI drive.. setup as /   2 SATA drives, software RAID.
[06:12] <Aberrant22> Then again, I don't have any data on it to lose
[06:12] <bsdfox> zenofjazz, LVM?
[06:12] <zenofjazz> Grub will not boot the box, it's failing at 1.5 -->   GRUB Loading Stage 1.5 read error.
[06:12] <zenofjazz> Nope.
[06:12] <JoseStefan> a514, ctrl+alt+backspace will restart it. sudo /etc/init.d/gdn stop    will stop it
[06:12] <JoseStefan> gdm*
[06:12] <yoshiznit123> jay_, if it's really important, you might try http://linuxappfinder.com/package/foremost (although i haven't tried it myself)
[06:12] <zenofjazz> Just Software RAID on the 2 80G drives on the SATA controller.
[06:12] <bsdfox> a514, run the sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  first
[06:13] <bsdfox> zenofjazz, isn't that hardware raid?
[06:13] <uganski> hi guys...would ubuntu work with a dual core processor?
[06:13] <mjr> uganski, of course
[06:13] <bsdfox> uganski, yes.. works very well
[06:13] <zenofjazz> hardware raid is an option.
[06:13] <uganski> mjr, would it take advantage of the dual core?
[06:13] <zenofjazz> Uganski.. until I borked the setup, it was running nicely on this dual processor server.
[06:13] <zenofjazz> dual core = dual processors in one chip.
[06:14] <bmcfarli> Hey guys when I click on the volume control it says that I dont have the proper gstreamer plugins. ANy suggestions?
[06:14] <uganski> yeah what i mean is software wise, would it take advantage of the duality of the processor? or would it run it like a single processor?
[06:14] <bruenig> install the proper gstreamer plugins
[06:14] <zenofjazz> I'm not running hardware raid, at present.
[06:15] <zenofjazz> uganski - > yes.  it should look like 2 processors to the OS.
[06:15] <jojoman02> how do i list all the hard disk partitions?
[06:15] <jojoman02> fdisk doesn't work
[06:15] <ClayG> anyone use ssmtp or getmail here?
[06:15] <bmcfarli> so make sure i don't have the wrong ones installed basicly?
[06:15] <andy_> Can anyone tell me where to find Network neighborhood. This linneighborhood is not working out well
[06:15] <zenofjazz> cfdisk
[06:15] <ClayG> I need to figure out how to make it leave a copy on the server instead of erasing it after downloadign the message
[06:15] <ClayG> anyone have any ideas?
[06:15] <uganski> zenofjazz, good! :D how about ntfs file system?
[06:15] <svelectric> Hey guys.  Would someone be able to help me ( a complete newb) with a graphic card issue?
[06:15] <jojoman02> cfdisk, did not work, (fatal error)
[06:15] <jojoman02> svelectric: what's the prob?
[06:16] <zenofjazz> not sure how compatible ubuntu is with ntfs, should be at least read-only access.
[06:16] <svelectric> just installed ubuntu on a tecra 8000 laptop
[06:16] <jojoman02> svelectric: ok...
[06:16] <svelectric> and the screen resolution won't go above 640-480
[06:16] <helter> hi, anybody can tell me how to install a new locale?
[06:16] <uganski> any one installed ubuntu on ntfs?
[06:16] <jojoman02> svelectric: ok, do you have nvidia or ati?
[06:16] <svelectric> so it's really difficult to use since the res is so low
[06:17] <uganski> or what file system should i format it?
[06:17] <tonyyarusso> zenofjazz: Definitely ro, writing is sketchy still, but people have done it.
[06:17] <jojoman02> svelectric: ok do this, type ---> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:17] <tonyyarusso> uganski: Installed on, no.  Used with, yes.  Install to any of the options it gives you (personally my / is ext3, but some of my others are different)
[06:17] <svelectric> it's an old laptop, it's a neomagic chipset
[06:17] <jojoman02> svelectric: that is in terminal, do you know about terminal?
[06:17] <ClayG>  come on
[06:17] <andy_> Can anyone tell me where to find Network neighborhood. This linneighborhood is not working out well. Thanks.
[06:17] <ClayG> Someones gotta at least use getmail
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> andy_: Network Neighborhood is a Windows icon name...
[06:18] <andy_> no, my network places is windows
[06:18] <zenofjazz> Ok, so what does this error message mean: GRUB Loading stage1.5Read Error
[06:18] <uganski> lastly...would i be able to dual boot it with another OS and windows?
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> andy_: In newer Windows, yes.
[06:19] <IcemanV9> andy_: Places > Network Servers
[06:19] <zenofjazz> uganski: Yes.
[06:19] <uganski> yey! great...i think im all set...ill just wait for the file to download...its so slow :( thanks for the help guys
[06:19] <bsdfox> zenofjazz, you've got /boot mounted on the scsi drive right?
[06:20] <andy_> Iceman, thanks very much. Sometimes the easy problems are the ones that get me
[06:20] <zenofjazz> test
[06:21] <Q_Continuum> worked.
[06:21] <infidel> someone tell me if they can spot the geek http://winehq.com/images/wineconf06_grp.jpg
[06:21] <zenofjazz> well /boot is mounted as part of /   ... which I think is being mounted as a normal part of operations.
[06:22] <bsdfox> zenofjazz, I'd say grub wasn't properly installed.. you installed grub on /dev/sda right?
[06:22] <zenofjazz> yes.   was part of the default install, originally.
[06:22] <zenofjazz> Here's the thing.
[06:23] <zenofjazz> It was working fine, until I put the SATA card in.
[06:23] <jnt30> clear
[06:23] <zenofjazz> and I've booted up the install disk, and re-installed grub, to /dev/sda
[06:24] <IcemanV9> infidel: the guy on the far right does NOT belongs in the pix :P
[06:24] <Steil> hey
[06:24] <Steil>  fuck the doctor
[06:24] <Steil>  i just ate a bacon and cheese sandwich (bacon cooked with cheese then the grease drizzled on the bread to "toast" it.)
[06:24] <Steil>  and it was still cold when I bit into it
[06:24] <bsdfox> zenofjazz, ok well I think you need to reinstall grub
[06:24] <baconbacon> bacon?
[06:24] <Steil> yes
[06:24] <Steil> bacon from a pig
[06:24] <bsdfox> zenofjazz, oh really? ok then this is easy
[06:24] <zenofjazz> I have, 2x.   and then did a complete re-install of the OS.
[06:24] <Steil> undercooked underrated
[06:25] <Steil> very tasty, i support bacon anyday
[06:25] <reggie10> hello all
[06:25] <reggie10> I need to get some info
[06:25] <bsdfox> zenofjazz, sata drives show up as scsi disks.. so like your old disk was /dev/sda, but now that you have 2 sata drives it's probably /dev/sdc
[06:25] <baconbacon> +1, i love bacon can you tell
[06:25] <zenofjazz> and server is rebooting from install media...
[06:25] <Steil> I don't love bacon
[06:25] <Steil> it gives me worms
[06:25] <bsdfox> zenofjazz, so you should just be able to boot off a livecd, change the grub config to reflect that and reinstall grub
[06:25] <Steil> but the worms let me stay the same weight
[06:26] <zenofjazz> Nope.   it is still /dev/sda... sata are /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc
[06:26] <Steil> i eat for 3 and i stay the same size
[06:26] <reggie10> installing flash player
[06:26] <bsdfox> zenofjazz, probably want to do sudo grub-install /dev/sdc
[06:26] <Flannel> Steil: that's nice.  #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:26] <holycow> Steil, lol
[06:26] <reggie10> any suggestions?
[06:26] <Greatmetal2> I am logging you all now mwhaha!!
[06:26] <bsdfox> zenofjazz, you should probably install it on /dev/sda and /dev/sdc
[06:26] <zenofjazz> Hmm. that's an interesting thought. le tme try that. one sec.
[06:26] <anon9021> how do i configure my internet connection to use a proxy?
[06:26] <bsdfox> unless you can choose which disk to boot in the bios
[06:26] <Michael> where can I go for help with windows servers?
[06:27] <zenofjazz> hmm
[06:27] <Steil> but dude, this is on topic. Without ubuntu I would have never had the courage to go against the status quo
[06:27] <Steil> Without ubuntu I wouldn't have worms
[06:27] <bsdfox> zenofjazz, pastebin your menu.lst
[06:27] <zenofjazz> Not sure the bios even knows the scsi and sata are here.
[06:27] <Flannel> Steil: no, this is a support channel, general chatter belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:27] <zenofjazz> will have to type it across, I'm kvm'd to the server. one sec.
[06:27] <reggie10> help?
[06:28] <RancidLM> hey all.. how do i set my alsa to except certian inputs.. i just upgrade my soundcard and alsa records every sound my computermakes + my mic   instead of leating my choose my recording device.. (i don't even have the open to select my recording device in my sound properties) please  hlp :)
[06:28] <Steil> I want support for the tapeworms, how do I get rid of them?
[06:28] <upt1me> how do you get CNN video to play?
[06:28] <andy_> When I connect to an ad-hoc network thru wifi-radar, i cannot see those networks in my network browser. Only the ones on the wired lan.  Anyone know how to correct this?
[06:28] <Caplain> where are the linux kernel headers?
[06:28] <RancidLM> Steil: spicey food :P
[06:29] <RancidLM> Steil: + beer
[06:29] <Born_In_Xixax> by default the kernel headers are not installed i think
[06:29] <Born_In_Xixax> but they would be in /usr/src
[06:29] <reggie10> anyone?
[06:29] <reggie10> << newbie
[06:29] <cpk2> !flash
[06:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:30] <cpk2> reggie10: i think you want the 2nd link there
[06:30] <anon9021> i'm on my schools wireless network , can i set it to use a proxy server?
[06:30] <RancidLM> hey all.. how do i set my alsa to except certian inputs.. i just upgrade my soundcard and alsa records every sound my computermakes + my mic   instead of leating my choose my recording device.. (i don't even have the open to select my recording device in my sound properties) please  hlp :)
[06:30] <andy_> When I connect to an ad-hoc network thru wifi-radar, i cannot see those networks in my network browser. Only the ones on the wired lan.  Anyone know how to correct this?
[06:31] <reggie10> thanks!
[06:31] <Caplain> Born_In_Xixax: where do i get them?
[06:31] <cpk2> reggie10: nevermind that link doesnt have flash
[06:31] <zenofjazz> ok, I'm trying to re-install GRUB /dev/sdc
[06:31] <Born_In_Xixax> if your ubuntu is up with network, from terminal: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-i386
[06:31] <Born_In_Xixax> unless you are using some other architecture
[06:31] <anon9021> what do i set sound recorder to accept input from if i want to record sound from a flash player?
[06:32] <jojoman02> can anyone recommend any data recovery software for an ext3 partition?? (my edgy destroyed it while resizing it)
[06:32] <Flannel> reggie10, cpk2, yes it does: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b
[06:32] <reggie10> cpk2: lol yer right
[06:32] <zenofjazz> and Grub config is JUST the default ubuntu entries.   drive spec'ed is hd0,0
[06:33] <zenofjazz> gonna see of changing grub config helped. one sec.
[06:33] <cpk2> Flannel: well i was about to say the restricted formats on has it =S
[06:33] <cpk2> one*
[06:34] <zenofjazz> ok, with grub set to /dev/sdc, got exact same error, bsdfox.
[06:34] <amicrawle> where do i get support for the viewsoci keay borads?
[06:35] <zenofjazz> (hope that keyboard came with a spell checker)
[06:35] <reggie10> thanks flannel
[06:35] <amicrawle> lol
[06:35] <robert_> how is dapper's php4-cli/php4-cgi ./configure'd?
[06:35] <muntyan> hey, what is mozilla-mailnews package replaced with?
[06:35] <amicrawle> where do i get support for the viewsonic key borads?
[06:35] <amicrawle> i need to get the hot keys working
[06:35] <bsdfox> zenofjazz, dmesg|grep sd
[06:35] <bsdfox> brb
[06:36] <muntyan> apt-get says mozilla-browser replaces mozilla-mailnews, but mozilla-browser doesn't include the mail client
[06:36] <Flannel> er, what?
[06:36] <zenofjazz> bsdfox: how?  the machine won't boot past the GRUB stage 1.5 Read Error
[06:36] <reggie10> flannel: says theres no such file
[06:37] <Magus_X_Away> cd damaged?
[06:37] <Magus_X_Away> ah, forget
[06:37] <Flannel> muntyan: they don't conflict, mailnews even requires -browser
[06:37] <anon9021> i'm trying to record a song off a flashplayer but when i have sound recorder open i cant play sound from a flash player and vice versa
[06:37] <Flannel> reggie10: what? the wiki does? or what
[06:38] <anon9021> anyone know what to do?
[06:38] <Flannel> muntyan: the full suite is just 'mozilla' if you want to install the whole thing
[06:38] <IcemanV9> can evolution be used _offline_?
[06:38] <Jaksh_Eet> how do I register my nick?
[06:38] <Flannel> Jaksh_Eet: /msg nickserv help register
[06:38] <reggie10> flannel you will have to excuse me...im a newbie linux guy here
[06:38] <DaveyJ> hey i just set up a samba share on my xubuntu backup server.. and its asking me for a username/password to access it from a winxp box.. i tried my login/password from my main account on the backup server box.. and it wont let me in
[06:38] <reggie10> brb
[06:38] <Flannel> reggie10: no problem.  but, no file where?
[06:39] <Flannel> DaveyJ: you need to setup samba passwords
[06:39] <DaveyJ> how do i go about that
[06:39] <DaveyJ> this is my first time using xubuntu.. while i like it.. it seems over-simplified, i'm having trouble finding thigns lol
[06:39] <Flannel> DaveyJ: getting you a link, hold up ;)
[06:39] <zenofjazz> easiest way to configure samba is to install webmin.   Webmin's samba config is way easier than trying to do the config file dance
[06:39] <muntyan> Flannel: i didn't say they conflict; "apt-get install mozilla-mailnews" says "not available blah blah blah, however mozilla-browser..."
[06:40] <Born_In_Xixax> samba can be configured to use multiple kinds of backends for password validation
[06:40] <robert_> how is dapper's php4-cli ./configure'd?
[06:40] <reggie10> flannel: I put in to terminal the following: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/*flash* /opt/firefox/plugins
[06:40] <Born_In_Xixax> you probably have none, or the default which is I think a file of username/passwords you create, so probably no one is authorized :)
[06:40] <muntyan> hm, changing sources from breezy to dapper makes it even worse
[06:40] <IcemanV9> !webmin
[06:40] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[06:40] <Jaksh_Eet> how do I register my nick?
[06:40] <DaveyJ> Flannel: thanks :)
[06:40] <Flannel> !tell DaveyJ about samba
[06:40] <anon9021> how do i set up my sound card so that i can play flash players at the same time i have xmms and sound recorder open?
[06:41] <cafuego> Jaksh_Eet: /msg nickserv help
[06:41] <Flannel> Jaksh_Eet: /msg nickserv help register
[06:41] <anon9021> usually i can only have one open at a time
[06:41] <zenofjazz> ubotu: Why? its a useful tool.. what should I use, instead?
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Why? its a useful tool.. what should I use, instead? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <Jaksh_Eet>  /msg nickserv help register
[06:41] <reggie10> flannel: then it asked for password...
[06:41] <anon9021> or else i get a message saying my sound card isnt configured properly
[06:41] <cafuego> zenofjazz: ubotu is a python script, not a human.
[06:41] <Flannel> Jaksh_Eet: no space
[06:41] <reggie10> flannel: then said "no such file or directory"
[06:41] <infidel> IcemanV9: where does he belong?
[06:41] <zenofjazz> yeah... not much conversational sparkle, there, indeed.
[06:42] <dbowling> where can I disable the screen saver from shell? this is my first time using linux, and it crashes gnome every time it enters screen saver mode, or I open the screen saver preferences dialog
[06:42] <zenofjazz> bsdfox, you back?
[06:42] <reggie10> busy night
[06:42] <Flannel> reggie10: what firefox do you have installed? and which version of ubntu are you using?
[06:42] <reggie10> lol oh great ...
[06:43] <IcemanV9> infidel: back to the original pix
[06:43] <macbook-pro-user> Is there a .deb for the patched version of grub that works on the intel macs?
[06:43] <Flannel> muntyan: -mailnews should be available, in universe, but so is -browser, so you should have it
[06:43] <reggie10> flannel: how do I find out? :D
[06:43] <Flannel> macbook-pro-user: you need to use elilo
[06:44] <muntyan> Flannel: apparently it was something broken in breezy; dapper is going to install it
[06:44] <Flannel> reggie10: run firefox, go to the help/about page, and for your linux version, lsb_release -a
[06:44] <reggie10> k
[06:44] <sethk> dbowling, edit /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf
[06:44] <Born_In_Xixax> dbowling: you might try uninstall 'xcreensaver' or 'xscreensaver-gl' via synaptic
[06:45] <macbook-pro-user> Flannel, I know about elilo, but there is also a patch that makes grub work on mactels, there is even an RPM.
[06:45] <robert_> can somebody tell me how php4-cgi is configured under 6.06?
[06:45] <reggie10> flannel: this? >Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060724 Firefox/1.0.8 (Ubuntu package 1.0.8)
[06:45] <Flannel> macbook-pro-user: ah, haven't heard of it then
[06:45] <Flannel> robert_: in /etc/php4/ or maybe just /etc/php, but I imagine the former
[06:46] <Flannel> reggie10: right.  And, you're using Breezy?
[06:46] <reggie10> uhhhhh
[06:46] <Flannel> reggie10: lsb_release -a
[06:46] <tristan_> how can i enable via uniochrome display driver?
[06:47] <robert_> Flannel: I would like to know where I can find out the ./configure line whoever packaged php4-cgi used
[06:47] <tristan_> how can i enable via uniochrome display driver to work for glx?
[06:47] <reggie10> flannel: sorry - type that in terminal?
[06:47] <Flannel> reggie10: preferrably ;)
[06:47] <Jaksh_Eet> where is a good place to get Ubuntu Dapper Themes thew Gnome
[06:47] <reggie10> lol
[06:47] <Flannel> Jaksh_Eet: gnome-looks.org
[06:47] <cafuego> robert_: it's in the debian/rules file in the php4 source deb package.
[06:47] <Flannel> Jaksh_Eet: they're standard gnome themes
[06:47] <germfy> Hi, could any1 help me conifuring my wireless adapter with WEP'
[06:48] <robert_> cafuego: where do I obtain that?
[06:48] <thoreauputic_> Jaksh_Eet: or you can install gnome-art and download a lot of themes, wallpaper etc
[06:48] <reggie10> flannel: LSB Version:    n/a
[06:48] <reggie10> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[06:48] <reggie10> Description:    Ubuntu (The Breezy Badger Release)
[06:48] <reggie10> Release:        5.10
[06:48] <reggie10> Codename:       breezy
[06:48] <germfy> I've tried (I think) everything.... ndiswrapper, iwconfig, ifconfig....
[06:48] <cafuego> robert_: Add a deb-src line in sources.list, then run apt-get source php4-cgi
[06:48] <Flannel> reggie10: no need to paste, but yeah.  Alright, so, you just use that first command, not the second one (second is what you were using)
[06:48] <dbowling> born_In_Xixax: synaptic does not list either of those
[06:48] <reggie10> sorry
[06:48] <cafuego> robert_: That also gives you chane chance to change the ./configure line and build a custom package.
[06:49] <Flannel> reggie10: no problem.  the second link would be if you had installed FF1.5, you need to do a bit more to get it working, which is why you don't have that file, because it isn't there
[06:49] <Born_In_Xixax> sorry, I'm on Edgy, perhaps your version uses another screen saver package :/
[06:49] <anon9021> how do i set xchat to use a proxy
[06:49] <robert_> yes, which is what I'd like to do- I want everything to be a shared module, instead of built-in
[06:49] <Born_In_Xixax> someone earlier mentioned the path for the config file, where you may be able to change or disable
[06:49] <anon9021> my school doesnt allow me to connect to this one server
[06:50] <Born_In_Xixax> anaon, which network?
[06:50] <Born_In_Xixax> gamesurge, perchance?
[06:50] <anon9021> dvirc.dyndns.org
[06:50] <WillRock> and hello
[06:50] <Born_In_Xixax> which IRC network are you trying to get onto
[06:51] <anon9021> i connect to the network but then when i try to use any commands it wont let me and there are no chans in the list
[06:51] <anon9021> dvirc.dyndns.org
[06:51] <Born_In_Xixax> if you check their main website, perhaps they have a server that supports a non-default IRC port
[06:51] <anon9021> no everyone i talk to has no problem getting on
[06:51] <anon9021> at the end of the motd though it just stops
[06:51] <anon9021> i can only use /help
[06:52] <anon9021> and a few others
[06:52] <Born_In_Xixax> heh
[06:52] <anon9021> but /join /list etc do nothing
[06:52] <germfy> Hello, I need help configuring a 3Com wireless card with security.... anyone to give directions????
[06:52] <Born_In_Xixax> sounds like the network itself is block you
[06:52] <Born_In_Xixax> perhaps some kind of custom registration
[06:52] <Flannel> anon9021: if /help is getitng through, it's not a block thing on the network
[06:52] <FluxD> how do you run the ./configure command?
[06:52] <anon9021> i cant use /helpop though
[06:52] <zenofjazz> either a firewall.. a proxy with blocking... or a filtering cache.
[06:52] <Flannel> !tell FluxD about compile
[06:53] <dbowling> I found gnome-screensaver in synaptic.... if I mark for removal, it says it will delete the ubuntu desktop too
[06:53] <FluxD> ty flannel
[06:53] <Flannel> dbowling: that's fine.  it's just removing the ubuntu-desktop meta package.
[06:53] <Born_In_Xixax> ubuntu-desktop is a virtual package
[06:53] <anon9021> so is it on my end or the servers?
[06:53] <Born_In_Xixax> ya, meta package :)
[06:53] <Born_In_Xixax> no harm
[06:54] <Flannel> dbowling: however, you should re-add it before upgrading to another ubuntu version
[06:54] <robert_> cafuego: is there a way I can get the ./configure line to show-up in the -cgi version?
[06:54] <infidel> FluxD, just type ./configure
[06:54] <cafuego> robert_: Hmm.. I think it should turn up if you run phpinfo()
[06:54] <Born_In_Xixax> Flannel, will re-adding ubuntu-desktop require re-installing gnome-screensaver?
[06:54] <dbowling> Born_: if I reinstall it, it should go back to default, right? I am pretty sure it is just the current screensaver that crashes
[06:54] <robert_> cafuego: not in the -cgi version :/
[06:54] <Flannel> Born_In_Xixax: it would.
[06:55] <Born_In_Xixax> dunno dbowling
[06:55] <reggie10> < gives up for the night....
[06:55] <Born_In_Xixax> i assume if you choose 'remove completely' it should remove config files, etc
[06:55] <Flannel> yeah, if you do 'complete removal' it'll remove the config too
[06:55] <cafuego> robert_: source it is, then.
[06:55] <FluxD> infidel it says there is n such command
[06:55] <robert_> http://allnitecafe.yi.org/info.php
[06:55] <robert_> heh
[06:55] <infidel> FluxD, are you in the right directory?
[06:56] <FluxD> infidel it is currently on the desktop
[06:56] <aloon> hello
[06:56] <infidel> FluxD, it has to be in the same directory
[06:56] <FluxD> so I do cd coommand/
[06:56] <FluxD> ?
[06:57] <gteppel_> My home network is setup as follows: Cable Modem -> Motorola VOIP Router -> 4 clients with 1 of them being a linux box which is the voip router has designated as the DMZ. The reason I have my network setup this way is my router has QoS for my internet traffic but I dmz my linux box because the router seems to die when I run p2p programs like torrent behind it so I need to forward ports from my linux box to other clients in my network.
[06:57] <infidel> FluxD, why is it on your desktop, is the hole program on your desktop?
[06:57] <FluxD> infidel it is a tar.gz file
[06:57] <aloon> i'm in trouble.. again , was upgrading from breezy to dapper and on apt-get dist-upgrade it got stuck on mplayer-skins and now even I apt-get -f it still gets stuck there
[06:57] <amicrawle> hey guys i'm looking 4 restrictive hardware arc where to ?
[06:58] <aloon> im on a different box right now
[06:58] <JoseStefan> aloon, could you put the outputs on the !pastebin
[06:58] <aloon> is there a way to get apt-get to forget the stuck mplayer file?
[06:58] <Flannel> FluxD: what program?  if you don't mind me asking
[06:59] <zenofjazz> ok, gteppel, whats your question
[06:59] <zenofjazz> ?
[06:59] <aloon> thats the problem its on another box and it wont boot into kde .. hangs at checking battery
[06:59] <infidel> FluxD, make a temp dir in your users root and copy the tar.gz file there extract it then from console run ./configure make sure you cd to the same directory
[06:59] <gansinho> hey, someone knows if "HTTP cache cleaner" is a spyware or some tool from the system?
[06:59] <FluxD> flannel I a trying to install vidalia from source
[06:59] <JoseStefan> aloon, can the system boot to CLI ?
[07:00] <aloon> im not sure how to do that?
[07:00] <Ma1> Hey how am I supposed to do this "The environment variable CXX should point to the location
[07:00] <Ma1>     of the c++-compiler, e.g: /usr/bin/g++-3.2" ??
[07:00] <robert_> so, I just run rules?
[07:00] <aloon> I have the ubuntu cd and on repair broken system I get so far but in the end it only gives me a shell
[07:01] <Ma1> I don't know how to point a environnment var, what's the command?
[07:01] <zenofjazz> I shall return.  (but I'm gone, for now)
[07:01] <Ma1> yoohhoo
[07:01] <JoseStefan> aloon, can you still run apt commands?
[07:01] <aloon> yes
[07:02] <FluxD> what is the delete command in console when you dont have permissions?
[07:02] <Ma1> get the permissions with chmod
[07:02] <JoseStefan> aloon, join #aloon
[07:03] <infidel> rm
[07:03] <FluxD> so sudo rem file location?
[07:03] <FluxD> rm*
[07:03] <infidel> FluxD, is this your computer your working on?
[07:03] <tristan_> sudo rm file
[07:03] <tristan_> sudo rm <file>
[07:04] <FluxD> yes infidel
[07:04] <robert_> dpkg-parsechangelog: error: cannot open debian/changelog to find format: No such file or directory <-- am I missing something?
[07:04] <infidel> FluxD, then you should have permission
[07:04] <infidel> FluxD, what step are youat?
[07:04] <FluxD> it has a lock in my user folder
[07:05] <infidel> ????
[07:05] <infidel> FluxD, ls -l /home
[07:05] <FluxD> infidel I am in my users root and dragged the tar.gz file there
[07:06] <infidel> FluxD, users root not /root
[07:06] <infidel> FluxD, ie.. /home/whatever_the_user
[07:06] <FluxD> my user location  is /home/Flux
[07:06] <infidel> FluxD, and it's locked?
[07:07] <FluxD> infidel I dragged the tar.gz file and extracted it the extracted folder is locked
[07:07] <robert_> anyway
[07:08] <robert_> how do I build php4-cgi, the custom Ubuntu version, from source? heh
[07:08] <infidel> FluxD, chown -R /Flux/locked_folder Flux i think that's right
[07:08] <FluxD> infidel what does that do?
[07:09] <infidel> FluxD, makes you the owner of that directory
[07:10] <FluxD> infidel I dont need /home/Flux?
[07:10] <robert_> blah- am I missing something? or is there a special build process for php4-cgi under Ubuntu?
[07:10] <infidel> FluxD, chown -R Flux /Flux/locked_folder
[07:11] <infidel> FluxD, chown -R Flux locked_folder
[07:11] <Polygon> hello, i need grub reinstalling help. no matter what i try, it either makes neither operating systems bootable (windows/ubuntu) or it just boots windows and it appears that grub does not work.  here is a list of things that ive done: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1512810&postcount=3
[07:13] <Polygon> anyone?
[07:15] <FluxD> infidel I got an error while doing ./configure
[07:15] <macbook-pro-user> Polygon what version of ubuntu are you using?
[07:16] <infidel_>  FluxD, better do this sudo chown -R locked_folder
[07:16] <FluxD> infidel I deleted that folder and extracted the vidalia folder here /home/Flux/temp/vidalia
[07:16] <infidel_> FluxD, ok where you at?
[07:17] <FluxD> then I did CD
[07:17] <FluxD> infidel the I typed in ./configure
[07:17] <infidel_> FluxD, did you make sure you had all the requirments installed first?
[07:18] <enigmatik-> Are you speak french ?
[07:18] <FluxD> infidel, it needed two packages which I did installed
[07:18] <infidel_> FluxD, ok
[07:18] <enigmatik-> ya d francais ?
[07:18] <macbook-pro-user> !fr
[07:18] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:18] <enigmatik-> merci :)
[07:19] <T`> anyone know how to use screen?
[07:19] <MikaT> !fi
[07:19] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[07:19] <carlsagan> !de
[07:19] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:19] <FluxD> !pastebin > fluxd
[07:19] <bitchslapper> oh wow .. how many languages can ubotu do that in?
[07:19] <carlsagan> !ru
[07:19] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[07:20] <fluvvell> Polygon89 have you found the grub help page?
[07:20] <JoseStefan> !askthebot
[07:20] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[07:20] <bitchslapper> !hi
[07:20] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[07:20] <carlsagan> !hi
[07:20] <carlsagan> how are you bitchslapper
[07:20] <FluxD> wb infidel_
[07:20] <infidel> man xchat keeps locking up on me
[07:20] <carlsagan> wb FluxD
[07:20] <infidel> FluxD, so what happened?
[07:20] <bitchslapper> I am good carlsagan, I though you passed :D
[07:21] <carlsagan> bitchslapper, well you know ;)
[07:21] <eXistenZ> !hi
[07:21] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[07:21] <eXistenZ> !hi > bitchslapper
[07:21] <carlsagan> !hi
[07:21] <carlsagan> how are you eXistenZ
[07:21] <bitchslapper> carlsagan, yeah ..  How about you?
[07:21] <macbook-pro-user> Lol $chan is supposed to be #ubuntu I assume :)
[07:21] <carlsagan> please 2 meet you
[07:22] <carlsagan> i am good
[07:22] <bitchslapper> eelo eXistenZ
[07:22] <FluxD> infidel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23837
[07:22] <eXistenZ> Sprechest du Deutsch?
[07:22] <carlsagan> !de
[07:22] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:22] <macbook-pro-user> !de
[07:22] <enigmatik-> stick usb peabird is compatible for ubuntu ?
[07:22] <carlsagan> nein =(
[07:22] <bitchslapper> !en
[07:22] <eXistenZ> carlsagan, It is 8:21AM here =]
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about en - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <eXistenZ> carlsagan, I should go and sleep another hour
[07:22] <infidel> FluxD, you need to install the compilers
[07:22] <carlsagan> je parle un peu de francais
[07:23] <carlsagan> eXistenZ, go back to bed
[07:23] <eXistenZ> of course
[07:23] <eXistenZ> seeya :)
[07:23] <FluxD> infidel all of them?
[07:23] <carlsagan> don't you hate it when you procrastinate on IRC
[07:23] <bitchslapper> 8.21 .. hmm .. sounds like some where close to germany :D
[07:24] <infidel> FluxD, no not all but do g++
[07:24] <macbook-pro-user> Anyone have a direct link to the newest version of grub in a .deb?
[07:24] <jason_> i don't think it comes as a .deb
[07:25] <macbook-pro-user> jason_, How else would you install it on a debian based system?
[07:25] <jason_> hang on , i'll find it
[07:26] <macbook-pro-user> Thanks.
[07:26] <jason_> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4622
[07:26] <jason_> try that
[07:27] <bitchslapper> oh crap!  I want to kill myself! :((
[07:28] <ramasdf123> anyone know how to install engae?
[07:28] <ramasdf123> engage?
[07:28] <infidel> carlsagan, not to mention all the other 800 and so lurkers
[07:28] <FluxD> infidel I am using this guide: http://trac.vidalia-project.net/wiki/InstallSource it says to do make after that is that just ./make I got few stuff after I typed in ./configure
[07:28] <ramasdf123> anyone know how to install engage?
[07:28] <macbook-pro-user> jason_, Actually any version of grub will do, I just need a way to replace the grub I installed using alian on an RPM, long story...
[07:28] <carlsagan> infidel, srsly =(
[07:28] <jason_> that should do it then
[07:29] <infidel> FluxD, no must make, might want to make sure you have it install too
[07:29] <Brokenstein> how do i get permission to move data to my /usr/share ?
[07:29] <ramasdf123> engage anyone?
[07:29] <FluxD> infidel so what is my next step?
[07:29] <bitchslapper> ramasdf123: what's that?
[07:29] <jason_> macbook_pro_user: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub.html
[07:30] <macbook-pro-user> jason_, If I use make then I will just have another version of GRUB that won't be updated from apt, I don't want that.
[07:30] <jason_> oh
[07:30] <infidel>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY l0ad1e
[07:30] <carlsagan> Public Service Announcement: some of us use 1200 baud modems, please keep the spam level to a minimum
[07:31] <FluxD> uh oh infidel time for new pass :)
[07:31] <infidel> carlsagan, damn that is an old box
[07:31] <bitchslapper> infidel: what did ya just do?
[07:31] <bitchslapper> I thought I was the only drunk guy around here :P
[07:31] <infidel> bitchslapper, my exchat keep locking up
[07:31] <FluxD> always do it in serv er tab indfidel
[07:32] <infidel> doh!
[07:32] <macbook-pro-user> jason_, I don't know if a .deb is the only way to do that, but apt is not letting me install from `sudo apt-get install grub` because "it is already the newest version" and I can't remove it then reinstall it because there are too many dependancies.
[07:32] <infidel> somebody slap me
[07:32] <jason_> macbook_pro_user: PM..?
[07:33] <macbook-pro-user> jason_, What does PM mean?
[07:33] <ramasdf123> engage anyone?
[07:33] <bitchslapper> you want some more of that smartypants?
[07:33] <infidel> :D thanks guys knew i could count on you
[07:33] <jason_> personnal message here
[07:33] <infidel> did you guys really see that?
[07:33] <carlsagan> macbook-pro-user, Ping Me
[07:33] <ramasdf123> anyone know how to install engae?
[07:33] <steve> hi, a friend wants to download the packages for dapper drake of apache, php and mysql... he don't have internet connection on that box
[07:33] <steve> where can he download it?
[07:33] <macbook-pro-user> carlsagan, How?
[07:33] <carlsagan> ramasdf123, sudo apt-get engae
[07:33] <madvirii> ;p;
[07:34] <carlsagan> macbook-pro-user, /ctcp <username> ping
[07:34] <madvirii> lol @downloading with no internet connection
[07:34] <Trent> hey, when im booting with the ubuntu desktop cd i select start or install ubuntu at the welcome screen, it then goes through a few things saying ok then it gos to unpacking linux, ok boot kernel or somthing like that and it doesnt move
[07:34] <jason_> macbook_pro_user: no personnal message
[07:34] <ramasdf123> tried taht
[07:34] <ramasdf123> but its all werid looking with '?' as the icons
[07:34] <ramasdf123> and when i right click it closes
[07:34] <FluxD> infidel so what is my next step?
[07:35] <jason_> carlsagan:   don't tell him to do that , i said "PM" as in personnal message
[07:35] <infidel> FluxD, where are you at?
[07:35] <carlsagan> jason_, it's the pin
[07:35] <FluxD> infidel, after ./configure
[07:35] <infidel> FluxD, did everything work in configure?
[07:36] <steve> where can i download ubuntu packages for install offline?
[07:36] <crimsun> steve: CC.archive.ubuntu.com
[07:37] <cafuego> steve: Any mirror. You may want to use 'apt-zip' for Synaptic to generate a download script to do so.
[07:37] <FluxD> infidel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23839
[07:37] <ramasdf123> engage help any1?
[07:38] <FluxD> !engage > ramasdf123
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about engage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <ecc> FluxD: where are you at now?
[07:38] <FluxD> ecc, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23839
[07:39] <infidel> one more beer and that's it
[07:39] <FluxD> infidel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23839
[07:40] <FluxD> infidel I need to do some qmake?
[07:41] <FluxD> Is compiling from source always this hard?
[07:41] <ad0k> when i installed ubuntu with a partition of windows, it made my windows partition hidden. How can i unhide it?
[07:41] <infidel> FluxD: did you install make?
[07:42] <FluxD> I think so
[07:42] <infidel> FluxD: qmake or make
[07:42] <FluxD> make
[07:42] <briguyd> FluxD, did you install the package "build-essential"?
[07:42] <infidel> FluxD: ok then type make
[07:43] <FluxD> briguyd no
[07:43] <abusado> where can i find the httpd.conf?? i cant find it in /etc/httpd
[07:43] <briguyd> youre trying to compile from source, right?
[07:43] <FluxD> briguyd yes
[07:43] <briguyd> then you'll most likely need that
[07:43] <FluxD> briguyd ok I will get that to
[07:43] <briguyd> yep
[07:44] <ad0k> when i installed ubuntu with a partition of windows, it made my windows partition hidden. How can i unhide it?
[07:44] <FluxD> infidel just make?
[07:44] <sky123> hi guys....have alot of the streamtuner casts been not working or cancelled?? I can only connect to the flamenco channel...lol
[07:44] <infidel> FluxD: yeah just make
[07:45] <briguyd> i know this should be asked in #xubuntu, but that channel is lifeless: is there a version of gnome-nettools without the gnome dependencies for xubuntu users and the like?
[07:45] <marshall> ad0k: ubuntu by default cant really handle ntfs partitions
[07:45] <infidel> FluxD: when you install you need to do a sudo make install
[07:45] <marshall> ad0k: well, linux in general
[07:45] <ad0k> well, i made the partition before i installed ubuntu, so i didnt even use the built in partitioner
[07:46] <FluxD> infidel : "No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."
[07:46] <marshall> ad0k: thats really something...
[07:46] <marshall> ad0k: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D217009&ei=iTIORd2hJoaSgAKA6-XdDQ&sig=__xO07U6QbTnChb-nIO9D-kbkse9s=&sig2=BKECVCZWkHWuyIH_M3ixeA
[07:46] <briguyd> FluxD, did you try ./configure ?
[07:46] <infidel> damn is that a path or what?
[07:46] <FluxD> I accidently closes the terminal so I need to do ./cofigure again?
[07:47] <ad0k> thanks marshall i will try this
[07:47] <nextstate2> I want to dual boot windows and ubuntu. Will the ubutnu installation detect windows and setup the dual boot for me?
[07:47] <marshall> ad0k: np
[07:47] <FluxD> nextstate2 yes
[07:47] <marshall> nextstate2: yeah
[07:47] <infidel> FluxD: no
[07:47] <briguyd> FluxD, i dont think so, but it might have failed the first time, make sure you install build-essential then do it again
[07:47] <nextstate2> cool, I'm really starting to like ubuntu
[07:47] <Trent> can anybody give me the link to download the main Ubuntu cd, not the live cd?
[07:47] <Flannel> briguyd: xubuntu uses gnome libs, what dependencies you having trouble with?
[07:47] <marshall> whats the command to update your flash plugin again?
[07:48] <infidel> Trent: same disk
[07:48] <Flannel> Trent: you mean the alternate ISO?  same place
[07:48] <vcolombo> trent: the live cd is the main cd/install cd
[07:48] <briguyd> Flannel, none, i just didnt want all the gnome dependencies installed if i didnt have to
[07:48] <Trent> when i boot, it gives me a welcome screen with a few selections
[07:48] <GTroy> HELP!
[07:48] <Trent> but when i choose, start or install ubuntu
[07:48] <steve> can't i download the .deb directly of http ?
[07:48] <briguyd> Trent, on the desktop, there is an icon to install it
[07:49] <GTroy> I installed xmms, and now that's the only app that'll play sound
[07:49] <steve> download .dev's from http directly for install in a offline machine
[07:49] <Flannel> briguyd: well, then you wouldn't be using xubuntu, now would you? ;)  um, there's net-tools which is a dependancy of gnome-nettool, that might have all the functionality without the wrapper, I don't know for sure though
[07:49] <marshall> whats the command to update your flash plugin again?
[07:49] <steve> deb*
[07:49] <Trent> bryguyd, It doesnt install properly, it starts loading and then goes back to Uncompressing linux Ok, booting the kernel and just stays there
[07:49] <briguyd> Flannel, ok, thanks
[07:49] <Flannel> steve: yes
[07:49] <steve> Flannel: where?
[07:49] <Flannel> Trent: grab the alternate ISO, no need to mess around with liveCD to install ;)
[07:49] <FluxD> infidel briguyd I did ./confgure with buil-essential now what?
[07:49] <Flannel> steve: packages.ubuntu.com, or from another ubuntu machine
[07:50] <Trent> Flannel, thank you could you give me the link to it?
[07:50] <infidel> FluxD: type make
[07:50] <briguyd> Trent, so you booted to the live cd, went through that install process and removed the cd and couldnt boot?
[07:50] <briguyd> FluxD, now make and sudo make install
[07:50] <Flannel> Trent: it's available on the same page as the DEsktop ISO, 'alternate ISO'  ubuntu.com/download
[07:50] <carlsagan> Public Service Announcement: some of us use 1200 baud modems, please keep the spam level to a minimum
[07:50] <FluxD> "No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."
[07:50] <infidel> FluxD: you need to cd to the directory
[07:50] <Flannel> carlsagan: this is a high traffic room, we do keep the noise level down, but there's still a lot of signal.
[07:50] <briguyd> FluxD, are there any errors when you do ./configure
[07:51] <infidel> FluxD: ls look for a makefile
[07:51] <Trent> briguyd, No, whats happening is im click start or install ubuntu, it then goes through some of the install process then switches to a blank screen saying Uncompressing Linux.. Ok booting ht ekernel and just stays there
[07:51] <FluxD> infidel briguyd I will pastebin the stuff
[07:51] <carlsagan> Flannel, thank you for your understanding
[07:52] <briguyd> Trent, where does it cut out? that shouldnt happen at all until the install is done
[07:52] <FluxD> infidel briguyd http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23841
[07:52] <Trent> bryiguyd, ill try again and tell you where its stopping
[07:53] <Juftus> Hello! I'm running a Xubuntu box and may want to switch to Ubuntu. Just ensuring: it'll be enough to install ubuntu-desktop, right?
[07:53] <carlsagan> no
[07:53] <Flannel> Juftus: yes
[07:53] <FluxD> infidel briguyd I think its looking for qmake?
[07:53] <briguyd> FluxD, looks like it
[07:54] <cafuego> Juftus: Yes, but just double-check that it will bring up gdm as opposed to xdm at bootup.
[07:54] <briguyd> FluxD, but it also looks like it's there
[07:54] <FluxD> infidel briguyd yea I did install it
[07:55] <Madpilot> carlsagan, 1200 baud modems? Where are you that you're forced to use that sort of prehistoric tech?
[07:55] <briguyd> FluxD, just to make sure, try installing qt4-dev-tools
[07:55] <carlsagan> MadCowBoy, Jerusalem
[07:56] <carlsagan> hello?
[07:56] <carlsagan> !hi
[07:56] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[07:57] <Juftus> cafuego & Flannel: Thx. I might want to keep xubuntu-desktop as well, but if I opted to remove it, would it be better to do a new installation or just remove some packages? (More or less all data on the hard disk can be safely deleted, so backups would be no pain.)
[07:57] <infidel> FluxD: you might have to edit your confige file where the option qmake - confige
[07:57] <Madpilot> carlsagan, via an ISP based in Virginia?   But simply removing xubuntu-desktop won't do it
[07:57] <cafuego> Juftus: I'd probably just elave it <heh>  You can remove it by way of 'debfoster' and 'deborphan' though probably.
[07:57] <carlsagan> MadCowBoy, it is from an internet account of my parent
[07:57] <ad0k> wtf
[07:58] <briguyd> something's not right about that, looks like the ./configure file got the options wrong
[07:58] <Trent> briguyd, its getting stuck at configuring power management and dropping back to Uncompressing linux, Ok booting kernel
[07:58] <carlsagan> MadCowBoy, they live in USA
[07:58] <cafuego> ad0k: Tourettes?
[07:58] <ad0k> what cause i said shit?
[07:58] <ad0k> grow up
[07:58] <Flannel> ad0k: this is a family friendly channel, please strive to keep it that way
[07:58] <briguyd> ad0k, keep the swearing to a minimum, please
[07:58] <cafuego> ad0k: No, because that's the ONLY thing you said, without context.
[07:59] <jbroome> you guys realize carlsagan is a bot, right?
[07:59] <ad0k> ad0k> SHIT
 infidel briguyd a config file?
 i just unmounted my hd1 by accident
[07:59] <Flannel> ad0k: no need to paste either.  and, unmounting is no big deal...
[07:59] <cafuego> Ah, /me is blind (again)
[07:59] <ad0k> context was there, you just need to read
[07:59] <ad0k> ok its not
[07:59] <ad0k> ?
[07:59] <briguyd> yeah, but the first statement wasnt needed
[07:59] <briguyd> let's drop this before it gets out of hand, though
[07:59] <Juftus> cafuego: Thanks for that hint, never heard of those two apps before.
[08:00] <cafuego> Juftus: They're handy for removing cruft.
[08:00] <ad0k> i still cant get my ntfs partition unhidden though
[08:00] <FluxD> infidel briguyd i can edit configure script?
[08:00] <briguyd> FluxD, yessir
[08:00] <Juftus> cafuego: so it seems from what ubotu told me about them. Have to take a more thorough look later. Must do some work now, though :)
[08:00] <FluxD> infidel briguyd what option do I need to change?
[08:01] <carlsagan> jbroome: can i help you?
[08:01] <briguyd> FluxD, whatever comes after "qmake", probably
[08:02] <FluxD> infidel briguyd will this only compile with qmake?
[08:02] <briguyd> most likely, yes
[08:02] <marshall> hey guys
[08:02] <cafuego> qmake: because make isn't forked enough.
[08:02] <ad0k> does anyone here know how to use ntfs-3g?
[08:03] <marshall> does anybody know how to fix audio going out of sync in firefox?
[08:03] <briguyd> marshall, with flash?
[08:03] <marshall> briguyd: yeah
[08:03] <briguyd> marshall, wait for flash 9?
[08:03] <opreese> skype me at opreese ... need info to configure web server via ubuntu desktop... apache is installed (i think)
[08:03] <mattyv> got a Fx Q but nobody over there is around, i need an extension that allows tabbed browsing on a site with javascript links, like hotmail tabs but not just on hotmail, anybody know of one?
[08:04] <ClayG> anyone feel like answering a question that is probally answered on google and man about getmail?
[08:04] <marshall> briguyd: thanks for all your help
[08:04] <FluxD> infidel briguyd I found the line any idea what to replace it with  "$QMAKE -config $BUILDMODE PREFIX=$prefix MANDIR=$MANPAGEDIR $PROFILE"
[08:04] <Gilnim> !fglrx
[08:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:04] <briguyd> marshall, lol, sorry, i think theres a link on the wiki, lemme check
[08:04] <briguyd> FluxD, yeah, looks like a likely candidate
[08:04] <marshall> briguyd: ok
[08:04] <ad0k> does anyone here know how to use ntfs-3g?
[08:05] <FluxD> infidel briguyd I found the line any idea what to replace -config with?
[08:06] <briguyd> marshall, this thread has a lot of info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22672&page=3
[08:06] <marshall> briguyd: thanks
[08:07] <briguyd> marshall, sorry about being a jackass
[08:07] <marshall> briguyd: lol dont worry about it
[08:10] <FluxD> infidel briguyd I will mess with this later thanks fo all the help
[08:10] <briguyd> FluxD, i honestly have no idea what you should replace it with
[08:11] <briguyd> can anyone tell me is removing that would hurt anything, as he is sure he has qmake installed
[08:11] <briguyd> if*
[08:11] <FluxD> infidel briguyd thanks anyway
[08:12] <briguyd> FluxD, where did you get that program?
[08:12] <steve> can i add 32 bit repositories in a 64 bit system, i want to get 32 bit packages
[08:12] <briguyd> FluxD, im sure there has to be a patch to fix that, as i dont think it would compile as it is now
[08:12] <FluxD> briguyd its vidalia source a gui for tor
[08:12] <oprees1> skype me @ opreese ... need help configuring apache via desktop ... my ip is <IP_ADDRESS> ... static is set ... you should be able to see me
[08:13] <FluxD> briguyd http://trac.vidalia-project.net/wiki/InstallSource
[08:13] <Flannel> oprees1: what do you need help with apache with?
[08:13] <mileskeaton> Forgive me if this is one of those things that everyone on IRC knows already, since I just arrived : but has anyone else felt their network access seem MUCH slower since a recent Ubuntu update in the past 2-3 days?
[08:14] <mileskeaton> I thought it was our local network, but just rebooted into Windows partition and everything is SUPER fast there, then back in Ubuntu it's painfully slow again.
[08:14] <mileskeaton> Even just typing in a remote SSH console session, the letters are dragging many seconds behind what I'm typing.
[08:14] <briguyd> FluxD, did you follow where it says to use "./configure --disable-debug" instead of ./configure?
[08:14] <FluxD> mileskeaton unecessary services?
[08:14] <Flannel> mileskeaton: try disabling ipv6?
[08:14] <FluxD> briguyd I got same error
[08:14] <briguyd> and qt4-dev-tools and qt4-designer are installed?
[08:15] <FluxD> yes sir
[08:15] <briguyd> hmm, sounds like a bad congigure file
[08:15] <FluxD> it supposedly working under 6.06
[08:16] <mileskeaton> FluxD: I woulda thought so too, but ps aux shows nothing unusual.
[08:16] <mileskeaton> Flannel: where to disable ipv6 in Ubuntu?
[08:16] <Flannel> !tell mileskeaton about ipv6
[08:16] <GTroy> !soundcard
[08:16] <chronic1> is there an identd client that comes with one of the available packages from ubuntu -- that will let me specify my ident responce?
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <mileskeaton> (Sorry I just switched over from OpenBSD.  I knew how to disable ipv6 there.  In kernel or boot/config thing?)
[08:17] <briguyd> FluxD, try one more thing
[08:17] <GTroy> anyone know *how* you select sound card for alsamixer?
[08:17] <briguyd> go into that configure file
[08:17] <oprees1> flannel thanx for comm with me... i am trying to set up my index page in a new directory such as c:/owenswebpage/index.html
[08:17] <thoreauputic> chronic1: gidentd - although afaik it just responds ( might be configurable)
[08:17] <chronic1> GTroy: you at gatech?
[08:17] <briguyd> and where it says "qmake", where you found earlier, remove -conf
[08:17] <GTroy> chronic1?
[08:17] <chronic1> thoreauputic: i think gidentd just responds with the user name
[08:17] <Flannel> oprees1: er, is this on ubuntu? or windows?
[08:17] <chronic1> i was asking about the "GT" part of your nick
[08:18] <briguyd> FluxD, err... remove -config*
[08:18] <GTroy> no, it's a mix of first and second names
[08:18] <oprees1> yes, i have it loaded on ubuntu
[08:18] <thoreauputic> chronic1: you are probably right - I just use it for IRC
[08:18] <chronic1> thoreauputic: i was checking out the conf file distributed with the package and on the homepage....i don't think it does anything, lol
[08:18] <Flannel> oprees1: why are you looking to put it in 'c:/' then?
[08:18] <briguyd> FluxD, so it's just "$QMAKE $BUILDMODE PREFIX=$prefix MANDIR=$MANPAGEDIR $PROFILE"
[08:18] <chronic1> GTroy: ah hah
[08:18] <thoreauputic> chronic1: IIRC it actually says "this config file is useless" ;D
[08:19] <chronic1> how many sound cards do you have installed via alsa
[08:19] <GTroy> two
[08:19] <FluxD> briguyd I will try that
[08:19] <chronic1> well mixer 0 is the first
[08:19] <chronic1> and mixer 1 will be the second...i think
[08:19] <GTroy> how do I select the first one?
[08:19] <chronic1> just check dmesg too se what was recognized
[08:19] <GTroy> ok
[08:19] <chronic1> when using the alsa tool just specify zero
[08:20] <briguyd> FluxD, then try doing "./configure --disable-debug" or whatever it was
[08:20] <chronic1> alsactl -- or something like that
[08:20] <GTroy> gotcha
[08:20] <oprees1> trying to get a better understanding of where files are located... thought i would make it simple on myself by just creating a new (folder) directory and place all my web pages and scripts in this new folder
[08:20] <chronic1> in g*e*n*t*o*o i would have to edit a conf file in rc.d to customize my shit
[08:20] <FluxD> briguyd ne errors now
[08:20] <chronic1> but ubuntu seems more intuitive
[08:20] <briguyd> FluxD, what?
[08:21] <Flannel> oprees1: in apache, with default configs, the root of the webdir is /var/www/ anything in there is visible to the outside world
[08:21] <MukiEX> Why is "locate" so fast?
[08:21] <Flannel> MukiEX: munchkins
[08:21] <MukiEX> I mean, I guess this is coming from a Windows user, but does EXT2/3 keep a database of filenames?
[08:21] <thoreauputic> chronic1: is g*e*n*t*o*o so long because you have to compile the name ? ;p
[08:21] <oprees1> correct... sir are you able to see me from the wan
[08:21] <FluxD> briguyd http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23844
[08:22] <MukiEX> Flannel : Ah HA!
[08:22] <chronic1> i didn't know if there would be a bot in here that would k/b me for writing another distro....i've seen it before
[08:22] <Flannel> oprees1: I can.
[08:22] <chronic1> first time on irc since installing ubuntu
[08:22] <thoreauputic> MukiEX: it builds a database once a day  - so it doesn't have to grep through everything
[08:22] <MukiEX> Ooooh.
[08:23] <oprees1> so i installed correctly... now i want to create a new directory and point server to my new index.html
[08:23] <thoreauputic> chronic1: nah, only evil ops like me k/b people for that kind of thing ;)
[08:23] <AZzKikR> GTroy, state your problem and  ye might be helped
[08:23] <AZzKikR> whoops
[08:23] <chronic1> that and, i didn't want to let anyone have the benefit of theh doubt that i was trolling, lol
[08:24] <AZzKikR> disregard that one
[08:24] <briguyd> FluxD, eek, thats beyond me, sorry, probably be best to put that line back in and ask someone else, sorry
[08:24] <Homer> checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[08:24] <thoreauputic> ;P
[08:24] <Flannel> oprees1: just make an index.html in that folder, or make a new folder and make an index.html in it, but they'll have to go http://your.ip.addy.here./foldername/ to get to that in a subfolder
[08:24] <Homer> problem :(
[08:24] <chronic1> thoreauputic: know what i mean...vern
[08:24] <Flannel> Homer: install the build-essential package
[08:24] <FluxD> briguyd thanks again I am off now later
[08:24] <Homer> k
[08:24] <oprees1> i thought i needed to map it or something
[08:25] <Flannel> oprees1: nope, apache takes care of everything
[08:25] <GTroy> AZzkikR I installed xmms and lost sound to all video apps
[08:25] <GTroy> but xmms plays music fine
[08:26] <GTroy> I also have an unused sound card sitting in the pc
[08:26] <chronic1> i would disable the one you are not using (onboard?)
[08:26] <oprees1> ok, thanx, i'll use /wwwtest/index.html .... be back in a min
[08:26] <GTroy> chronc1 I should
[08:26] <briguyd> GTroy, you have 2 PCI soundcards?
[08:27] <GTroy> but there wasn't a problem before
[08:27] <GTroy> one onboard
[08:27] <GTroy> so no
[08:27] <briguyd> which are you using?
[08:27] <GTroy> on board
[08:27] <chronic1> hmmm -- so why do you have the other one installed?
[08:27] <briguyd> GTroy, should you remove the PCI one, then?
[08:27] <Homer> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[08:27] <chronic1> no offense...just curious
[08:27] <Homer> what now
[08:27] <GTroy> I was trying to use the wolfson DAC
[08:27] <oprees1> sorry... umm.. i want to create a folder that is equivalent to c:/wwwtest
[08:27] <briguyd> Homer, you installed build-essential?
[08:27] <GTroy> *worked in breezy.....
[08:28] <Homer> yes
[08:28] <asdx> hi, i am in the 64 bit live cd, i'm dowloading some packages that i want to install offline, from synaptic, will these packages work in a 32 bit ubuntu?
[08:28] <Homer> it got farther now
[08:28] <Homer> but need x includes
[08:28] <chronic1> install the -dev packages
[08:28] <chronic1> for whatever you are trying to build against
[08:28] <Flannel> Homer: what are you compiling?
[08:28] <Homer> gnash
[08:29] <Flannel> what's wrong with the repository version?
[08:29] <Homer> open source flash (swf) player
[08:29] <Homer> ?
[08:29] <Homer> there are no packages
[08:29] <briguyd> i agree with Flannel
[08:29] <Flannel> ah, you're right.
[08:29] <carlsagan> i agree
[08:29] <carlsagan> maybe.
[08:30] <Flannel> !tell Homer about compile
[08:30] <Flannel> Homer: that should walk you through all the steps
[08:30] <oprees1> sorry... how do i create a folder ie... c:/wwwtest ?
[08:30] <oprees1> i went to places
[08:30] <Homer> thanks
[08:30] <briguyd> oprees1, for apache?
[08:30] <oprees1> my computer
[08:30] <Homer> also might I ask if there as any other solution other then gnash for amd64
[08:30] <oprees1> using ubuntu desktop
[08:30] <Homer> to play flash files
[08:31] <Flannel> Homer: you can install the normal flash player
[08:31] <freakabcd> hi all
[08:31] <Homer> no can do
[08:31] <freakabcd> could someone tell me how i can use the 'Arial' font ?
[08:31] <Homer> it's 32-bit
[08:31] <isoss> hi ... I need to install mysql 4.0 x86, server and it's not included in the repos ... what should I download then from mysql?
[08:31] <briguyd> oprees1, what do want this folder for?
[08:31] <isoss> from mysql.com*
[08:31] <freakabcd> Arial is not available in inkscape and other gnome applications :(
[08:32] <oprees1> i want this folder to contain my website
[08:32] <Flannel> Homer: have you looked at this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[08:32] <briguyd> oprees1, are you using apache?
[08:32] <Madpilot> freakabcd, do you actually have it installed?
[08:32] <isoss> or what can I add in repos so I can get older versions of mysql
[08:32] <oprees1> i installed desktop then apache
[08:32] <carlsagan> does anyone know where i can buy a new modem in jerusalem?
[08:33] <briguyd> isoss, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:33] <Homer> wouldn't that be really really slow?
[08:33] <surimi> hello
[08:33] <Homer> since my computer is running in full out 64-mode
[08:33] <briguyd> oprees1, use nautilus to make a new folder in /var
[08:33] <Homer> nothing 32-bit is allowed without emulation
[08:33] <Homer> hmm
[08:33] <Flannel> isoss: would 4.1 work
[08:33] <chronic1> how is ubuntu with dealing with the dual-core systems?
[08:33] <krazykit> so... i have a crummy broadcom wireless card.  would it be better to grab a ralink wireless card?
[08:34] <isoss> no Flannel
[08:34] <oprees1> i was hoping to make equivelent to c:/wwwtest
[08:34] <freakabcd> Madpilot, i dont think so.
[08:34] <isoss> I would have downloaded it if it worked
[08:34] <Flannel> isoss: then yeah, you'll have to compile it yourself
[08:34] <freakabcd> Madpilot, is there a package for it?
[08:34] <isoss> what about the dependecies?
[08:34] <Flannel> oprees1: /var/www/test would be http://ip.addy/test/
[08:34] <briguyd> isoss, you should be able to use those instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP to install apache (you already did)_ and mysql (and php, if you need it)
[08:34] <Madpilot> freakabcd, well, it's a Microsoft font, and I'm not sure if it's in the msttf fonts package. It certainly isn't available in Ubuntu by default
[08:34] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell freakabcd about fonts
[08:34] <thoreauputic> krazykit: you know about the bcm43xx driver, right?
[08:35] <Flannel> isoss: you'll have to apt-get them
[08:35] <freakabcd> Madpilot, yeah which is why i ask.
[08:35] <thoreauputic> !bcm43xx > krazykit
[08:35] <Madpilot> freakabcd, see the PM from the bot for more info
[08:35] <freakabcd> because i need to use the Arial font in some stuff i do in inkscape
[08:35] <briguyd> oprees1, Flannel is right, /var/www/test would be http://ip.addy/test/
[08:35] <isoss> can't apt-get Flannel, mysql 4.0 isn't there
[08:35] <isoss> ok briguyd, I'll read through that and see what happens
[08:35] <Flannel> isoss: right, you apt-get the dependencies
[08:35] <briguyd> isoss, apt-get install mysql-server
[08:36] <surimi> does it exist a such nice no cost XP/Mac program http://www.linotype.com/fontexplorerX to preview/group/print/activate and desactivate fonts (and much more) in Linux world?
[08:36] <oprees1> ok guy... i get what you'r saying... put all the sites in the var
[08:36] <briguyd> oprees1, yessir
[08:36] <isoss> hmmm so then apt-get install mysql-server won't install the mysql but it's dependecies?
[08:36] <isoss> just to make sure
[08:36] <krazykit> thoreauputic: the bcm43xx driver doesn't work.  i fought with it for a good month before giving into ndiswrapper.  i'd rather have a better supported card
[08:36] <oprees1> but... there is a way to map it to another directory outside the var
[08:36] <Flannel> isoss: no.  that'll install the server
[08:36] <isoss> but I need to install a certain version of mysql!!
[08:37] <Flannel> oprees1: yes, there are.  usually users home directories, like http://ip.addy/~owen/ would be a folder inside your home dir
[08:37] <thoreauputic> krazykit: hmm - I'm using bcm43xx here with an Apple "airport extreme" Broadcom card without issues
[08:37] <Flannel> isoss: right, you apt-get the dependencies, then download the source, then compile.
[08:37] <Flannel> !tell isoss about compile
[08:37] <thoreauputic> kraxelhuber: YMMV - you need the firmware though
[08:37] <Ricesteam> my screensaver activates when I'm watching a media file.
[08:37] <isoss> Flannel : how would I know the dependecies?
[08:37] <Ricesteam> how do I disable it?
[08:37] <oprees1> the home directory is var/www... i want my home directory to be /www
[08:38] <Flannel> isoss: looking them up
[08:38] <thoreauputic> bah krazykit that was for you
[08:38] <Flannel> oprees1: no, you dont
[08:38] <thoreauputic> kraxelhuber: sorry bad tab complete
[08:38] <oprees1> why?
[08:38] <krazykit> thoreauputic: my issue involved losing the connection every 10 minutes, and often failing to get an IP address.
[08:38] <briguyd> oprees1, why do you want that?
[08:38] <isoss> I'll check that in synaptic .. but anyway, isn't there a command for knowing that?
[08:39] <krazykit> i'll wait for edgy to see if the new driver will work better, thoreauputic, and if not, maybe try out the devicescape driver
[08:39] <Flannel> isoss: Not really.  hense the point of package management.  the mysql readme might have it, or the website, or you might have to look in the makefile
[08:39] <oprees1> some sites i have are on other hard drives such as d:/www or e:/test/www... etc...
[08:39] <thoreauputic> krazykit: hmm - seems Ok here, although it took me a while to get it working with network manager. I'm only using WEP here though ( home router )
[08:39] <Flannel> oprees1: linux doesn't use drive letters
[08:39] <krazykit> thoreauputic: yeah, i don't like network manager. i have my own custom scripts :-P
[08:40] <thoreauputic> krazykit: fair enough - network manager has a ways to go :)
[08:40] <surimi> No typotheque to manage font so in Linux ?
[08:40] <isoss> I'll read what can I read and then get back to you guys, thanks for your support
[08:40] <thoreauputic> krazykit: netapplet also worked OK for me
[08:40] <oprees1> so i am new to linux... i am familr with win and was hoping i could relate
[08:41] <briguyd> is there a way to remap the capslock to something like shift-capslock and have jsut regular capslock do nothing?
[08:41] <Flannel> oprees1: what are you ultimately hoping to accomplish?
[08:41] <krazykit> thoreauputic: well, i don't really use gnome... or kde... or xfce... and don't really have a system tray up often...
[08:41] <thoreauputic> oprees1: in linux drives are "files" - everything is a file - for instance your C drive would normally be /dev/hda1
[08:41] <oprees1> it's not absolutly necessary i use folders outside var... i just did'nt want to mess things up
[08:42] <thoreauputic> krazykit: right, n-m is useless without X at least ( works in fluxbox, sort of)
[08:42] <oprees1> ok... so i use var... so let's start with my main index.htm
[08:42] <Kanpachi> hello, is anyone experincing any trouble with the new kernel update?
[08:42] <muukav> Im trying to install madwifi, but when using make, i get the following error message: /bin/sh: line 0: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: no such file or dir.. and then the same with makefile.inc, asking me to set KERNELPATH.. how do i fix this?
[08:42] <Flannel> oprees1: /var/www/ not /var/
[08:42] <oprees1> right
[08:42] <Flannel> oprees1: and, just put the main index in /var/www, so it'll be /var/www/index.htm
[08:42] <ryan> hello
[08:43] <krazykit> thoreauputic: indeed.  iwconfig works well enough, anyway.
[08:43] <oprees1> ok... i'll put and index.html in var/www
[08:43] <oprees1> one min pls
[08:43] <ryan> hi
[08:43] <Flannel> thoreauputic: three letter extensions, that's where the htm came from, DOS's 8.3 filenames
[08:43] <krazykit> thoreauputic: 8.3 :D
[08:43] <thoreauputic> Flannel: ah, of course!
[08:44] <Flannel> thoreauputic: and, not just linux people, but real web developers, etc. use .html as well ;)
[08:44] <Kanpachi> hello, is anyone experincing any trouble with the new kernel update?
[08:44] <krazykit> Kanpachi: nope.  what's your trouble?
[08:44] <Kanpachi> well
[08:44] <thoreauputic> Kanpachi: new? as in several days ago?
[08:45] <Kanpachi> yes
[08:45] <thoreauputic> Kanpachi: worjing fine here
[08:45] <thoreauputic> *working
[08:45] <Kanpachi> k7-15.26 something
[08:45] <Kanpachi> well, firefox and other apps start crashing with just like that
[08:45] <Kanpachi> no errors shown
[08:45] <thoreauputic> ah, don't know - I don't have an amd cpu
[08:45] <oprees1> i dont have permission to save in var/www ?
[08:46] <Kanpachi> and a few mins ago, my whole system froze, totally froze! i couldn't even move my mouse, i had to hard reboot it
[08:46] <thoreauputic> oprees1: no, it is root only -you would need sudo
[08:46] <Kanpachi> i mean, i couldn't even move the cursor around
[08:46] <Wiseguy> ok this is kind of off topic., but i will have a related question after this :P  does anyone know what the devices are called that are kind of like laptops but much much smaller (and im not talking about a PDA or palm pilot or anything)... they fold just like a regular laptop with the screen on one side and a tiny keyboard on the other... looks about twice the thickness of a PDA, but about the same length and width
[08:46] <oprees1> ok i used the text editor
[08:46] <Flannel> thoreauputic: no, it's www-data not root
[08:46] <thoreauputic> oprees1: you can use another dir - say public_html in your home directory
[08:46] <thoreauputic> Flannel: ah sorry
[08:47] <thoreauputic> Flannel: quite right
[08:47] <Flannel> thoreauputic: no trouble, just making sure you don't confuse the poor guy ;)
[08:47] <thoreauputic> Flannel: rightly so
[08:47] <oprees1> i am haveing a hard time keeping up with the chat... sorry guys... i know youre trying to help... thanx
[08:47] <Flannel> thoreauputic: and, as such, he'll want to save everything in there as www-data, sudo -u www-data instead of just sudo
[08:48] <Kanpachi> never happend to anyone? not kernel wise, but a simillar problem with 6.06.1
[08:48] <krazykit> Wiseguy: OMPC?
[08:48] <Flannel> Kanpachi: you can always revert to your old kernel (you do keep at least one revision of old kernel installed, right?) by changing grubs default, or whatnot
[08:48] <oprees1> ok... so how do i sudo text editor to save in var/www
[08:49] <thoreauputic> Flannel: it might be easier if he just has a home server to use ~/public_html and redirect to that
[08:49] <Kanpachi> flannel, the weird thing is
[08:49] <Kanpachi> this new kernel totally took over
[08:49] <Kanpachi> i can't find my old kernel in the grub menu!
[08:49] <Flannel> thoreauputic: I agree, that'll probably be eaisest
[08:49] <krazykit> Kanpachi: uh, no, it can't, unless you manually removed the old one.
[08:49] <Kanpachi> only the 386 one
[08:49] <Kanpachi> i don't remember doing anything like that
[08:49] <oprees1> i just want to practic... what ever is simplest
[08:49] <erpo> Is there a virtual desktop switcher for gnome that shows previews?
[08:49] <Wiseguy> krazykit: ?? what is that? do you have a link?
[08:49] <thoreauputic> Flannel: the by default http://blah.org/~username will work
[08:50] <krazykit> Wiseguy: no.  i just remember hearing the word.
[08:50] <Kanpachi> well, i can always install the older one via synaptic and use it
[08:50] <thoreauputic> *then
[08:50] <Kanpachi> btw, how do i change grub's default?
[08:50] <krazykit> Kanpachi: you could install the 386 one and see if it helps.
[08:50] <Flannel> Kanpachi: default  in the menu.lst ;)
[08:50] <krazykit> Kanpachi: it's in the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:50] <Kanpachi> ok thanx
[08:50] <Flannel> Kanpachi: it'll be a number of the entry
[08:50] <oprees1> if anybody can skype me (voice)
[08:51] <oprees1> talk me thru it
[08:51] <carlsagan> skype me
[08:51] <carlsagan> baby
[08:51] <carlsagan> one more time
[08:51] <oprees1> i would let you vnc me if possible
[08:52] <mybers> hello to everyone!  how do you list all the running background services in the console please
[08:52] <thoreauputic> oprees1: if you have a default apache2 install you can put your stuf in your home directory under public_html directory, and http://your.url.com/~yourusername will be the index.html file in that directory
[08:52] <Flannel> mybers: jobs
[08:52] <thoreauputic> oprees1: that's the easiest way
[08:52] <Flannel> thoreauputic: no, you need to uncomment it out of apache2.conf
[08:53] <Flannel> thoreauputic: it's at the bottom of the file, pretty easy to spot though
[08:53] <surimi> #ubuntu-motu
[08:53] <thoreauputic> Flannel: you do? I never remeber that - it's been a while - thanks for the correction (again)
[08:53] <thoreauputic> *remember
[08:53] <Flannel> thoreauputic: or at least, in breezy it is.  believe default apache isn't commented, but ubuntus version is
[08:54] <thoreauputic> Flannel: are you sure? I seem to remember that working out of the box
[08:54] <thoreauputic> Flannel: that might be it
[08:54] <Flannel> thoreauputic: I may be wrong.  I don't remember commenting it though
[08:54] <oprees1> ok the public_html directory... where is this... in var/www ?
[08:54] <mybers> wats commands can use
[08:54] <thoreauputic> oprees1: no, in your user hme directory
[08:54] <thoreauputic> *home
[08:55] <Flannel> thoreauputic: oh, wait. it's a module now.
[08:55] <Flannel> thoreauputic: alright, so itis enabled out of the box
[08:55] <thoreauputic> oprees1:  cd ~  ; mkdir public_html ; put index.html in that directory
[08:55] <Flannel> thoreauputic: just not via that directive in apache2.conf, but via a module.
[08:55] <thoreauputic> Flannel: ah OK
[08:55] <oprees1> found usr but no home
[08:56] <Flannel> oprees1: cd ~
[08:56] <MZM> how hard is to move from working dapper to edgy?
[08:56] <thoreauputic> oprees1: then test with http://localhost/~yourusername
[08:56] <Flannel> MZM: pretty easy.  #ubuntu+1 for details
[08:56] <thoreauputic> oprees1: just "cd" will take you home actually
[08:56] <oprees1> so the root is home
[08:56] <thoreauputic> oprees1: assuming you are running as your user
[08:57] <Flannel> oprees1: no, /home/username/ is your home
[08:57] <thoreauputic> oprees1: no, /home/yourusername/
[08:57] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:57] <oprees1> hmmm.. im using ubuntu desktop (places) k
[08:57] <Flannel> oprees1: so, /home/owen/  but, you can also just use ~ to move you there
[08:58] <oprees1> wouldn't it be simpler for you guys to vnc me
[08:58] <thoreauputic> oprees1: just hit the home button, and create a public_html directory there :)
[08:58] <thoreauputic> oprees1: giving strangers access to your machine is not a Godd Thing (tm)
[08:58] <DaveyJ> is there anything special i have to do in order to get a firewire network going?
[08:59] <thoreauputic> umm Good
[08:59] <DaveyJ> the only time i've done it is in windows where its plug'n'play (probalby the only thing in windows that actually works that way)
[08:59] <oprees1> it does not matter... its a test computer... i just want to learn this
[08:59] <FlaX> Is the cd supposed to be burned as a boot image?
[08:59] <Flannel> oprees1: you wouldn't learn if we did it for you, now would you?
[08:59] <thoreauputic> oprees1: then follow the directions I gave you
[08:59] <oprees1> yup
[08:59] <Robbster> lo all. I've got a VERY annoying problem. I'm running Dapper (fully updated) and sometimes, when I open a gnome file dialogue it (and the application) crash. Completely.
[08:59] <Flannel> FlaX: burn the ISO like a normal ISO
[08:59] <oprees1> ok,... im look'n for the home button
[09:00] <FlaX> Flannel alright thx
[09:00] <Flannel> oprees1: places > home
[09:00] <thoreauputic> oprees1: all you need is public_html as a dir in /home/you
[09:00] <Robbster> This affects gaim, firefocx (browse), open office. Basically, it's a killer.
[09:00] <Robbster> Any ideas on how to fix?
[09:00] <thoreauputic> oprees1: then put your index.html in there
[09:00] <thoreauputic> oprees1: note: these are case sensitive
[09:00] <oprees1> case sentive... got it
[09:01] <thoreauputic> oprees1: and remember that by default to access it you need the ~ before your username in the URL
[09:02] <thoreauputic> oprees1: like http://localhost/~oprees1  or whatever
[09:02] <oprees1> ok... fond home button... created public_html
[09:02] <thoreauputic> oK now put your website content in ther
[09:02] <thoreauputic> *there
[09:03] <Flannel> oprees1: right, you're doing fine: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~owen/
[09:03] <kholerabbi> how do you change the theme by commandline?
[09:03] <kholerabbi> or by modifiing a file?
[09:03] <thoreauputic> Khisanth: put your theme in ~/.themes
[09:04] <thoreauputic> Khisanth: if that's what you mean
[09:04] <oprees1> ok... got index.html in home/public_html/index.html
[09:04] <thoreauputic> oprees1: OK you should be able to access that now as above
[09:05] <thoreauputic> umm - not /home/public_html - /home/owen/public_html
[09:05] <kholerabbi> thoreauputic: If you talking to me, than I mean I want to select one of the preinstalled themes, not install a new one
[09:05] <thoreauputic> or whatever your username is
[09:05] <oprees1> ok
[09:05] <Flannel> oprees1: that's fine.  it works.  go there ;) you'll see.
[09:05] <abusado> i installed programs on UBUNTU using the add application after installation i cant find where it's located... help me im a newbie
[09:06] <Flannel> abusado: probably in the application menu, depends on which app though
[09:06] <kholerabbi> abusado: it should be in the applications menu.. if its a game then in the applications>game menu, if office software then in >office, etc.
[09:06] <thoreauputic> oprees1: I see "test" - looks like you got it :)
[09:06] <oprees1> send me url to me please
[09:07] <Flannel> oprees1: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~owen/
[09:07] <thoreauputic> oprees1: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~owen/
[09:07] <thoreauputic> heh
[09:07] <oprees1> ok i c it
[09:07] <oprees1> thanx guys
[09:08] <thoreauputic> oprees1: no worries - enjoy :)
[09:08] <orphean> Is there an Ubuntu equivalant to /etc/conf.d? (ie, some sort of central init script prefs directory)
[09:08] <Flannel> orphean: /etc/init.d/
[09:08] <abusado> kholerabbi: it is in the accessories i installed CPU/Mem monitor... but i cant find it in accessories
[09:08] <oprees1> beer time
[09:08] <abusado> also i installed Mysql administration but i cant find it
[09:08] <thoreauputic> oprees1: :))
[09:08] <orphean> Flannel: Erm, is that their configuration files as well?
[09:08] <Flannel> orphean: or is that not what youre looking for?
[09:09] <orphean> Flannel: I'm looking for an Ubuntu equivalant to /etc/conf.d/local.start which runs whatever commands one wants to run at boot.
[09:09] <kholerabbi> abusado: you probably didn't need a memory or cpu monitor, as there is one already, go to system>administration>system monitor, then click the second tab
[09:11] <orphean> Flannel: I found it ;) If anyone else asks, point them to /etc/rc.local
[09:11] <kholerabbi> Help! My panels are dead, frozen. When I login most of the things are there (the menu, launchers, a drawer.. but not deskbar, clock, network applet, ) and I can't click anything in the panels, nothing happens when I do.. and after a while everything just disappears of the panels, leaving them blank - any help PLEASE?!
[09:11] <Flannel> orphean: thankee
[09:13] <carlsagan> help
[09:13] <Flannel> !help
[09:13] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:13] <Flannel> bah.  anyway, ask your question.  we aren't psychic.
[09:13] <thoreauputic> !ask
[09:13] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:14] <KyoLptp`> I just downloaded some fonts; how do I install them?
[09:14] <Flannel> !tell KyoLptp` about font
[09:15] <KyoLptp`> thank you
[09:15] <DaveyJ> anyone use firewire networks with ubuntu?
[09:15] <kholerabbi> aha!!! 'killall deskbar-applet', message: "The panel applet Deskbar has encountered a problem, do you want to delete this item from your configuration: yes" then the panels load properly :)
[09:16] <brendonjt> hi all
[09:18] <C-O-L-T> hello I use Opera as browser but under linux the fonts are too annoying. I would like a standard font like in firefox for example
[09:18] <C-O-L-T> can anybody help me?
[09:18] <oprees1> <?php
[09:18] <oprees1> echo "test";
[09:18] <oprees1> ?>
[09:19] <oprees1> oooppss ... sorry
[09:20] <oprees1> test.php
[09:20] <KyoLptp`> :D Segoe UI is quite pretty
[09:21] <freesun> anyone, should I use updates? I think one of updates makes quinnstorms compiz crap out
[09:21] <freesun> I am talking of ubuntu updates
[09:21] <KyoLptp`> the quinn/vanilla stuff got deprecated ages ago
[09:21] <KyoLptp`> they're supposed to 'crap out' to make way for csm
[09:22] <KyoLptp`> check out compiz.net
[09:22] <freesun> which page of compiz.net?
[09:22] <KyoLptp`> help, forums, etc
[09:23] <oprees1> so i can't run php scripts from home/owen/test.php
[09:23] <Flannel> !tell oprees1 about php
[09:23] <Flannel> er, sorry.
[09:23] <Flannel> !tell oprees1 about lamp
[09:24] <oprees1> guys my friend came over yesterday and mapd a directory of my choice to work in such a manner
[09:24] <oprees1> but cant replicate
[09:24] <Flannel> oprees1: you need to run it from home/owen/public_html/test.php
[09:24] <oprees1> that's why i was ask'n
[09:25] <oprees1> about this map stuf
[09:25] <oprees1> but it's not called mappin
[09:25] <oprees1> is called sumpn else
[09:26] <Flannel> oprees1: the people in #apache might be able to help you more.  but, again, putting your entire home folder online is asking for trouble
[09:26] <oprees1> if i knew the name is the equiv to mapn then it'd be easy
[09:26] <freesun> lol making home online... ow! oprees1: don't really do that it is really asking for a lot of trouble
[09:27] <oprees1> ok... so it is best for security reasons to keep all in var/www
[09:27] <DaveyJ> is there anything special i have to do in order to get a firewire network going between my backup server (xubuntu) and an xp box?
[09:27] <Flannel> oprees1: or, home/owen/public_html
[09:28] <oprees1> ok
[09:28] <oprees1> so i think i saved test.php in the right place
[09:29] <wall0159> hey all. Can anyone advise me how to get data from a DVD-R that reports as blank, but that I _know_ isn't..?
[09:29] <oprees1> yup,,, it's next to index in folder
[09:31] <oprees1> so i use same url (instead of ~owen/index.html  i use ~owen/test.php and it says do i want to down load it
[09:31] <DaveyJ> quick question.. how do i unload xgl/compiz and reload it without closing out of my session?
[09:32] <Flannel> DaveyJ: #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl
[09:33] <z0rz> Is there anything better than bandwidthd? I want a Web statics page and realtime info per IP without having to route the network traffic through the PC that is monitoring the bandwidth
[09:34] <domster> snmp?
[09:35] <z0rz> How does that work? .. I know it's a protocol .. but is there a tool or something that does it all in one?
[09:35] <z0rz> and don't you have to have like a snmp-compliant device that responds back?
[09:36] <oprees1> ok... i was trying to copy and paste test.php to var/www but i can't cuz of this sudo thing?
[09:36] <Flannel> oprees1: you don't need to
[09:36] <domster> well, I'm a bit confused as to what you need. snmp would be ideal for monitoring the bandwidth usage of a number of ips under your control, but it wouldn't let you see the ips that those machines are communicating with
[09:36] <oprees1> test.php don't work from public
[09:36] <z0rz> Sounds good... where do a look for more info?
[09:36] <Flannel> oprees1: that's not because of it's location
[09:37] <domster> z0rz, if that's what you're looking for, take a gander at 'cacti'
[09:37] <oprees1> oh
[09:37] <domster> the basic approach is you install snmp on each computer you want to monitor, which lets each of them respond to requests for info
[09:37] <oprees1> php ain't loaded or installed or setup correctly?
[09:37] <brendonjt> under dapper what is a good model wireless adsl modem/router/ap
[09:38] <domster> then, on the monitoring computer, you set up something to query the data and compile it into pretty looking graphs
[09:38] <domster> cacti does that
[09:38] <Shadowpillar_> brendonjt: what do you mean?
[09:38] <Flannel> oprees1: right.  or rather, apache and php aren't setup to work together
[09:38] <Flannel> !tell oprees1 about lamp
[09:38] <z0rz> well domster .. I don't really want to install anything on all the computers .. some of the computers I might not be able to install it on .. for example.. laptops of those getting on my Wireless AP
[09:38] <Shadowpillar_> brendonjt: you mean wireless card?
[09:38] <oprees1> ok
[09:38] <Flannel> oprees1: that page goes into what you need to do
[09:39] <Shadowpillar_> brendonjt: anything with an atheros chipset. (you can find this easily by looking for cards that have 108 mbps super G technology, atheroes are the only ones who have this)
[09:39] <oprees1> so, i'll look into getting php installed correctly
[09:39] <Shadowpillar_> atheros*
[09:39] <brendonjt> oh yip  me bad  one that works  straight out of the pac
[09:39] <oprees1> what about this business of not being able to copy and paste into the var/www folder?
[09:39] <domster> z0rz, right, fair enough, but that probably means you need to connect the monitoring computer at a point that the network data is travelling through, or at least where it's mirrored (advanced switches, or an inline hub)
[09:40] <maxamillion> in edgy, how do you make gaim not show buddy icons in the buddy list?
[09:40] <X-Rob_> Anyone alive want to go through and check a ubuntu install guide for freepbx (asterisk GUI)?
[09:40] <z0rz> domster well bandwidthd will do what i need.. I was just looking for a similiar or better program..
[09:40] <Bokonon> Hello, is there any application that i can use to download a list of URIs i got from apt-get install -f --print-uris on Windows?
[09:40] <Flannel> oprees1: it's because you don't have permission to
[09:40] <X-Rob_> Ooh, and I just discovered a problem (http://www.aussievoip/wiki/freePBX-Ubuntu)
[09:40] <z0rz>
[09:40] <Bokonon> Problem is, my ubuntu machine does not have an internet connection
[09:40] <oprees1> who do i get permission from
[09:41] <domster> z0rz, you might try IPFM
[09:41] <Bokonon> so i have to down'em from the PC at work.
[09:41] <domster> not that it makes nice graphs
[09:42] <Bokonon> ack- otherwise, i have to paste each URL one by one. i was hoping there's an application (a download manager) that could read each URI
[09:42] <frank__> 668
[09:42] <Flannel> oprees1: you use sudo.  but agian, that's not your problem.  you need to finish setting up php
[09:42] <oprees1> yup... got it... but was interstered in permission thing
[09:42] <sess> it took me a lifetime, but I managed to do it
[09:42] <Flannel> !tell oprees1 about sudo
[09:42] <sess> got wifi working using the 4318
[09:42] <oprees1> ok... permission thing later.
[09:43] <TLE> Is it just as bad for quality to convert from ogg->mp3 as I have heard it is the other way around? I know that there always be loss when conerting between compressed formats, hence the wording "just as bad"
[09:43] <oprees1> sudo later... mus only be available fm cmd line
[09:43] <Flannel> TLE: yes.  I imagine it's the same both ways.
[09:43] <oprees1> i'll check out my php config
[09:44] <oprees1> using synaptic?
[09:44] <sess> had to install ubuntu i386 and scrap amd64 build.  Then I didn't even bother to try the internal 43xx driver, I used ndiswrapper, took 2 hours, but it finally works.  And Im a little upset because it may have initially worked had I manipulated the /etc/network/interfaces file directly (the wep key was *********************1 instead of the code in ascii)
[09:44] <Flannel> TLE: the problem is they both (ogg and mp3) throw away different pieces of sound ranges, and as such, going from one to the other (either way) has thrown away both
[09:44] <carlsagan> hi sess
[09:44] <sess> carlsagan: hi
[09:45] <wall0159> Hey again - I burned a data DVD, and I want to recover the data. I can physically see the data track on the disk, however, it appears that the session was not closed, or the table-of-contents was not written and the PC sees the disk as blank. Can anyone suggest how to recover the data? I've tried using parted (with the idea of searching for a partition) but that only works on hard disks (surprise!). Any thoughts?
[09:45] <oprees1> php-common and php-cgi installed
[09:46] <sess> I've never been able to get my ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M working 3D accelerated in linux, (gentoo or debian), does anyone have this card working in ubuntu?
[09:46] <Flannel> oprees1: did you read that page?
[09:46] <TLE> Flannel: Yeaaahhh. Well I thought, without being a programmer or anything, that there might be som differences in the algorithms that made one way better than the other
[09:46] <Flannel> TLE: if there are, its far too subtle to notice.  but I seriously doubt there is.
[09:47] <oprees1> what page to read... sorry... cant find in this chat
[09:47] <Flannel> oprees1: check your private message from ubotu, about LAMP
[09:47] <azureal> if vim is giving me weird errors and i cant look at man pages.. should i reinstall ubuntu-desktop?
[09:48] <TLE> Flannel: Thanks for your reply, it doesn't matter that much anyway. I was hoping to start rip all my cd's to ogg for ideological reasons. but unfortunately my mobile player doesn't support ogg :( So it'll have to wait then
[09:48] <oprees1> i know it must be frustrating for you folks most of the time... but my private msgs. hmmm
[09:48] <apokryphos> azureal: re-installing ubuntu-desktop won't change things, it's a metapackage (see the FAQ)
[09:48] <Flannel> TLE: you might look into FLAC ;)  if you're trying to get them off physical media.
[09:49] <sess> anyone gotten direct rendering at 24bpp?
[09:49] <azureal> "it won't change things" lol
[09:49] <Flannel> oprees1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:49] <krazykit> TLE: flac wins.  you can transcode it to whatever you want, provided you have time to spare :-D
[09:49] <Flannel> oprees1: obviously, you need only worry about the apache/php parts
[09:50] <apokryphos> azureal: what weird errors is vim giving yoou?
[09:50] <carlsagan> hi apecat
[09:50] <printk> join #ubuntu+1
[09:50] <oprees1> ok i c a few msgs (which must be private msgs to me)  you sugest i read the docs... i will
[09:50] <DaveyJ> is it possible to bridge/bind ethernet connections in ubuntu?
[09:51] <carlsagan> n,
[09:51] <oprees1> what, cant bridge in ubuntu?
[09:51] <carlsagan> no
[09:52] <carlsagan> you need to swim
[09:52] <Flannel> yes it is
[09:52] <oprees1> i guess so
[09:52] <carlsagan> sry
[09:52] <DaveyJ> i wanna bridge my 10/100 lan and my firewire
[09:52] <carlsagan> i stated it
[09:52] <oprees1> what if i don't know how to swim
[09:52] <carlsagan> you can use a ferry
[09:53] <DaveyJ> carlsagan: you left the realm of funny =/
[09:53] <carlsagan> what
[09:53] <oprees1> what if i cant afford the ferry
[09:53] <carlsagan> then you will have to have your oxen ford the river
[09:53] <carlsagan> and one will probably die
[09:53] <DaveyJ> cork the wagon!
[09:53] <Flannel> !offtopic
[09:53] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:53] <oprees1> ok sorry
[09:54] <TLE> Flannel: krazykit: Yeah I just had a look at it, it seems like a good soulution, I'm just going to need a litle more HD space then ;)
[09:54] <Flannel> TLE: yeah.  just a smidge more ;)
[09:54] <carlsagan> my bad Flannel
[09:54] <carlsagan> forgive me
[09:55] <TLE> Flannel: Yeah according to their homepage it about 1/2 size, with mp3/ogg being what something like 1/8 or 1/10
[09:56] <azureal> ah, nvm...i managed to run out of space
[09:56] <Flannel> TLE: yep, rather large.  However, it is lossless, and really processor friendly to decode.
[09:56] <oprees1> trying to install php5 now
[09:57] <azureal> why didnt the error just say "USER, you have run out of space! stop before you lose!"
[09:57] <TLE> Flannel: looks nice thanks
[09:57] <peterretief> any ideas on how to interface to a gsm network?
[09:57] <Bonaldo2000> anyone here know anything about ntfs-3g? I have a weird problem...
[09:57] <Flannel> TLE: I'd never use it on CDs etc in media players, but for master copies, it's handy.
[09:57] <azureal> but no.. instead it's "GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash."
[09:58] <azureal> <this is complete bs>
[09:58] <DaveyJ> so flannel how do i bridge connections? is there a howto anywhere?
[09:58] <Flannel> DaveyJ: unfortunately, I have no idea.  but I do know it's possible ;)
[09:59] <carlsagan> impossible
[09:59] <DaveyJ> lol
[09:59] <carlsagan> =)
[10:00] <DaveyJ> ooo apparently theres a bridge package
[10:01] <BeepAU> hey everyone, could someone please teach me how to burn a dvd? i'm confused.
[10:02] <DaveyJ> dunno how ot use it though :(
[10:02] <Bokonon> toss it into the fireplace? no really- thats going to take a lotta reading- if you've got mplayer installed, just try man mplayer
[10:02] <oprees1> attempting to install all php5 components... probably not the smartest thing to do but is choice i made to see if i can just get php to work
[10:02] <Bokonon> or on win32, try autogk
[10:03] <carlsagan> impossible
[10:04] <oprees1> side note: i opted to install desktop first and then install server components secondary cuz ubuntu server (lamp) had no gui
[10:04] <oprees1> by defualt
[10:05] <CromagDK> !bug
[10:05] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[10:05] <carlsagan> !hi
[10:05] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[10:05] <oprees1> would be terrific if there was a way to install (LAMP) via desktop install
[10:06] <oprees1> ok if not (LAMP) then (AMP)
[10:07] <tsw> oprees1: apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server ?
[10:07] <Madpilot> !lamp
[10:07] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[10:07] <oprees1> oprees1: apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server ? that's it
[10:08] <JosefK> !lapp
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lapp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <JosefK> shame :(
[10:08] <tsw> oprees1: or read what ubotu just told about lamp
[10:08] <Flannel> oprees1: no.  You need libapache2-mod-php5
[10:09] <Flannel> oprees1: LAMP is perfectly installable with a desktop.  There's no requirement that it be text-only or anything silly like that.
[10:10] <drumline> text-only isn't silly!  :P
[10:10] <drumline> heh
[10:10] <krazykit> TLE: lucky for you, hard drive space isn't TOO expensive.  FLAC is worth it, IMO.
[10:11] <Flannel> drumline: no, it's not.  but having text-only as a requirement for LAMP is silly
[10:11] <oprees1> my hopes were to be able to instruct friends using the telephone on how to simply install ubuntu (swithing from win to the best free world) and be able to host web sites ... simply... i'm not a guru by far... just trying ubuntu out to see if it is easy for me and others
[10:11] <Flannel> oprees1: it is.  they just need to install, then follow a few simple steps (which are copy/pasteable) and they can have it up pretty easily
[10:12] <oprees1> i know it must be simple... but ya know how it is... everybody has their quirks ... such as mine
[10:13] <BeepAU> how do i Verify DMA is enabled for my DVD burner?
[10:13] <TLE> krazykit: yeah. Thanks for all your help, I'll have to study a little now. "Organisationel theory" Yaaaawn
[10:14] <oprees1> going to reboot now
[10:14] <sess> hell yea, it works
[10:15] <sess> now I have video,3D,audio,net,wireless,and misc usb all working in ubuntu
[10:15] <Madpilot> !dma
[10:15] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[10:15] <sess> why didn't I switch to this distro years ago
[10:15] <Flannel> sess: because it's only been out for two? ;)
[10:15] <sess> yea, I heard about it in 2004 working for oit at umass, but I was really into gentoo at that time
[10:16] <sess> been a debian man mostly for the greater part of 5 years
[10:16] <siimo> hi is there a way to recover a ubuntu system?  i think i didnt shut down cleanly and stuff from /etc/ was lost (including the inittabs and even sources.list!!)  is there a way to force install the whole base system again to get this back?
[10:16] <siimo> :(
[10:16] <Stinovlas> yesterday. i was trying to install gentoo.. damn.. its impossible! :D
[10:16] <sess> gentoo takes a few practice installs I think, then its pretty quick and painless to install
[10:17] <WinterWeaver> hey all..... right.... first of: I'm a linux newb .... secondly... i've been throught the online documentation on TwinView, and other links supplied by peeps in this IRC, but no matter what I've been trying... I can't get my dual monitors to work
[10:17] <sess> main advantage is that it doesn't install ANYTHING, you basically buildyour own system
[10:17] <sess> sort of like stampede in 1999, too bad they went under
[10:17] <CromagDK> when my syslog tells me kernel: [17213209.960000]  kernel BUG at mm/rmap.c:486! should i post the "cut here" part on bugs.ubuntu ? or would there be a need for other info ? (if anyone knows)
[10:18] <siimo> anyone know??
[10:18] <CromagDK> siimo: RIP
[10:18] <CromagDK> !rip