[01:49] <thumper> anyone feel like reviewing some branches?
[01:51] <mwhudson> thumper: maybe
[01:51] <thumper> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thumper/launchpad/rename-created-job/+merge/38681
[01:52] <thumper> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thumper/launchpad/needs-review-event/+merge/38686
[01:52] <thumper> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thumper/launchpad/defer-wip-email/+merge/38791
[01:52] <thumper> a pipeline to defer the initial review email until it needs review
[01:59] <mwhudson> thumper: why do you reset the root message id in the last one?
[01:59] <thumper> mwhudson: because it will start a new threaded conversation
[01:59] <thumper> if someone had commented on a work in progress
[02:00] <thumper> that sets the root message id
[02:00] <mwhudson> i guess that makes sense
[02:00] <thumper> by resetting to send out the main message, we get a new thread
[02:00] <mwhudson> also if you flip between needs review -> wip -> needs review again, i guess a new thread is appropriate
[02:00] <thumper> yeah, that's my thought too
[04:11] <thumper> mwhudson: were you going to comment on the third one above?
[04:11] <mwhudson> thumper: oh right, yeah, one sec
[04:11] <mwhudson> otp
[04:11] <thumper> ack
[04:17] <thumper> another simple one for someone: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thumper/launchpad/kill-bad-form-preloads/+merge/38800
[07:48] <bac> hi lifeless
[07:48] <bac> jtv, could i trouble you for a review?
[08:08] <lifeless> hi bac
[08:08] <bac> hi lifeless, you'd pinged me earlier.  so i have been unavailable until now
[08:08] <lifeless> I did?
[08:09] <bac> yeah, during the middle of my night.
[08:09] <bac> lifeless: so i was just replying
[08:09] <lifeless> I don't see a ping from me
[08:09] <lifeless> are you thinking of the email one ?
[08:10] <jtv> hi bac, still need that review?
[08:11] <bac> lifeless: no, but i am in the wrong channel.  at 19:15Z in #launchpad-dev there was "lifeless: bac: hi"
[08:12] <bac> lifeless: i'm not making it up, but if you don't need to chat that's a-ok too.  :)
[08:16] <lifeless> hmm, oh right it was re that mail I think
[08:18] <bac> lifeless: i'm replying to your email now, so i guess we are covered.
[08:18] <lifeless> coolio
[08:23] <bac> jtv: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bac/launchpad/bug-652149/+merge/38705
[08:23] <jtv> gotcha
[08:24] <bac> jtv: henninge grabbed it yesterday but i don't think he actually did anything
[08:24] <jtv> bac: he won't be back for another few hours
[08:29] <jtv> bac: is it okay to inherit both from LaunchpadFormView and LaunchpadView?
[08:30] <bac> jtv: probably not.  i didn't realize that was happening.
[08:30] <jtv> BranchVisibilityPolicyView inherits from LaunchpadView.
[08:33] <bac> jtv: thanks for catching that.  i think it was a late change.  i'll investigate.
[08:33] <jtv> bac: it looks as if for your use you really want BVPV to be a mixin.
[08:34] <bac> jtv: yeah, i may have to go that route.  it pre-existed and i thought i could get lucky and re-use it as is
[08:34] <jtv> It might work just fine, it just scares me a bit.
[08:34] <bac> yes, i think it should
[08:44] <jtv> bac: wasn't it possible for TestProjectGroupBranchesPage to render the view directly, without creating a browser?
[08:45] <bac> jtv: i was burned so badly by trying to get a rendered translations view last week that i went with what i knew would work
[08:46] <jtv> bac: IIRC it should (knock on wood) be a matter of soup = BeautifulSoup(view())
[08:46] <jtv> Seems worth trying despite the trouble with our views!
[08:47] <bac> jtv: good point.  i will try.
[08:47] <jtv> thanks
[08:55] <jtv> bac: on a sidenote, there's something in the docstring for that test that confuses me: "This is the default page shown _for a person_ on the code subdomain."  Should that be "to" a person (who by implication I guess must be logged in)?
[08:57] <bac> jtv: fixed
[08:57] <jtv> cool
[10:03] <jtv> bac: also in your test, since you're using the whitespace-ignoring assertion helper, can you get away with multi-line strings for the text you expect in the privacy portlet?
[10:04] <bac> jtv: what do you mean?
[10:04] <bac> and why would i want to?
[10:04] <jtv> bac: the indentation is a bit ugly and uses up a lot of horizontal space that you could use for meaningful content.
[10:05] <jtv> 75+        expected = ("By default, new branches you create for projects in .* "76+                    "are Public initially. Individual "77+                    "projects may override this setting.")78+        self.assertTextMatchesExpressionIgnoreWhitespace(79+            expected, text)
[10:05] <jtv> Hmmm... I bet I can do better:
[10:05] <jtv> 75+        expected = ("By default, new branches you create for projects in .* "
[10:05] <jtv> 76+                    "are Public initially. Individual "
[10:05] <jtv> 77+                    "projects may override this setting.")
[10:05] <jtv> 78+        self.assertTextMatchesExpressionIgnoreWhitespace(
[10:05] <jtv> 79+            expected, text)
[10:05] <jtv> How about:
[10:06] <jtv> expected = """
[10:06] <jtv>     By default, new branches you create for projects in .*
[10:06] <jtv>     are Public initially.  Individual projects may override this setting.
[10:06] <jtv> """
[10:06] <jtv> I don't know if moving the line breaks is a problem…?
[10:08] <jtv> bac: ^^
[10:08] <jtv> is what I meant
[10:09] <bac> jtv: it is not a problem
[10:10] <jtv> Then I think the multi-line string is slightly more natural.
[10:10] <jtv> Also, if the BeautifulSoup tests you did are a problem, might it be worth putting more of the portlet's logic in the view and unit-testing the view directly?
[10:11] <jtv> FWIW I got an order-of-magnitude speedup on one of our slowest pages that way.
[10:12] <jtv> I don't know if those tests are still a major time sink for the test though; just a thought.
[10:12] <bac> they are not
[10:13] <bac> the portlet isn't really doing much
[10:15] <jtv> ok nm
[11:03] <henninge> bac: sorry, I totally forgot your review ...
[11:03] <bac> henninge: np
[11:03] <bac> you were busy
[11:37] <bac> henninge: could i get you to do a UI review of the branch from yesterday?  https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bac/launchpad/bug-652149/+merge/38705
[11:37] <bac> henninge: i'll provide some screenshots in just a moment
[11:43] <henninge> bac: I already saw it.
[11:44] <bac> henninge: actually hold off a bit on a UI review.  i need to tweak something
[11:44] <henninge> bac: I remember that the link in the portlet looked odd.
[11:44] <henninge> i.e. the icon was not properly aligned with the text
[13:34] <jtv> gmb: I've got a large MP with a sadistic title… interested?  https://code.launchpad.net/~jtv/launchpad/recife-pofile-owner-privs/+merge/38827
[13:36] <gmb> jtv: Sure; I'm always willing to have pain brighten my afternoon.
[13:36]  * jtv laughs
[13:41] <henninge> jtv: there are text conflicts in your mp. Did you merge the latest stable into recife and push that?
[13:41] <jtv> henninge: ah, not yet—thanks
[13:42] <jtv> I merged db-stable into recife earlier today.
[13:42] <jtv> …so recife got lots of changes.
[13:43]  * jtv merges & twiddles
[13:56] <jtv> gmb: just pushed an update to resolve two very minor conflicts.
[13:56] <gmb> jtv: Okay, thanks.
[14:01] <jtv> My diff has updated.
[14:16] <jcsackett> gmb: have time for another review today?
[14:24] <gmb> jtv: r=me
[14:24] <gmb> jcsackett: Sure.
[14:24] <jtv> gmb: great, thanks!
[14:24] <jcsackett> gmb: great, thanks. mp is here: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jcsackett/launchpad/new-releases-636060/+merge/38773
[14:24]  * gmb looks
[14:30] <gmb> jcsackett: A couple of nitpicks w.r.t styling but otherwise r=me.
[14:30] <gmb> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jcsackett/launchpad/new-releases-636060/+merge/38773
[14:31] <jcsackett> gmb: cool, thanks. I'll make those changes.
[15:25] <leonardr> mars, i need to go to a doctor's appointment, but i'd like to put https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~leonardr/launchpad/temporary-integration/+merge/38836 on the queue, with the understanding that if it turns out you need any input from me to do the review, you can just put it on hold until i come back
[15:27] <gmb> leonardr: Can I assume that that message applies to me as well?
[15:27] <leonardr> gmb, yes indeed
[15:28] <gmb> leonardr: Okay, thanks.
[15:33] <EdwinGrubbs> gmb: can I get a code review? I've already gotten ui reviews on this branch: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~edwin-grubbs/launchpad/bug-652232-person-code-action-links/+merge/38574
[15:34] <gmb> EdwinGrubbs: Sure. I'll put it in the queue after leonardr-afk's branch
[15:34]  * gmb -> getting a drink. bbi10m.
[15:37] <mars> morning gmb
[15:38] <mars> gmb, I'll take leonardr-afk's branch
[15:42] <gmb> mars: Cool.
[15:45]  * gmb hates at the '+junk' moniker for the umpteenth time.
[15:49] <gmb> EdwinGrubbs:  r=me with a tiny little nitpick
[15:50] <EdwinGrubbs> gmb: thanks
[15:54] <matsubara> thanks mars
[16:05] <bdmurray> could I get https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/launchpad/bug-supervisor-modify-distro-official-tags/+merge/38743 added to the review queue?
[16:22] <mars> bdmurray, sure
[17:09] <bdmurray> gmb: did my branch get reviewed or dropped from the queue?
[17:13] <gmb> bdmurray: Whoops, I stomped on it. Sorry.
[17:13] <gmb> bdmurray: By way of making it up to you I'll take a look now :)
[17:13] <bdmurray> gmb: it should be an easy one
[17:14] <gmb> bdmurray: Indeed. r=me
[17:15] <bdmurray> thanks!
[17:23] <jml> need a review on a very simple CP: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jml/launchpad/codebrowse-config-cp/+merge/38858
[18:25] <leonardr> mars, any advice on where to put the screenshot for the ui review? and who might be around to do it right now?
[18:29] <mars> leonardr, sinzui is the head reviewer, he may punt to mrevell.  people.c.c or devpad are good for screenshots, edit the description to add the link.
[18:30] <sinzui> I am a head reviewer?
[18:30]  * sinzui wonders what super powers that conveys
[18:30]  * mars anoints sinzui as one of the head UI reviewers
[18:31] <sinzui> leonardr, screenshots are often linked in the review comments. the images/movies may be bug attachments or uploaded to people.canonical.com
[18:31] <leonardr> sinzui: it's like a phrenologist
[18:31] <mars> sinzui, it conveys the superpower of mentee delegation, the ability to move mountains by giving the task to other people.
[18:31] <sinzui> leonardr, :)
[18:31] <leonardr> sinzui: if you can do the review today-ish, maybe i can just put the screenshot on my personal site?
[18:32] <sinzui> leonardr, yes and yes
[18:37] <leonardr> sinzui, the mp is https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~leonardr/launchpad/temporary-integration/+merge/38836
[18:37] <mars> Out for a lunch errand, back shortly
[19:47] <sinzui> salgado, are you about
[19:48] <salgado> hi sinzui
[19:48] <mars> bryceh, wow, uhm, a 14,000 line diff - might take me a while
[19:48] <sinzui> salgado, do you have time for a UI review?
[19:48] <mars> bryceh, is any of this stuff generated?
[19:48] <salgado> sinzui, not today, but I can do it early tomorrow if it's not urgent
[19:49] <bryceh> mars, no but that seems excessively large
[19:49] <bryceh> mars, it's against db-devel, but perhaps the diff was made against devel?
[19:50] <mars> bryceh, it was made against your previous branch
[19:50] <mars> and db-devel
[19:50] <mars> bryceh, have a look: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bryce/launchpad/lp-617691-retrieve/+merge/38804
[19:50] <sinzui> leonardr, I would like salgado to do the first UI review of your branch? Can you wait until tomorrow?
[19:50] <mars> bryceh, it /really/ looks like a lot of generated JavaScript arrays and generated HTML
[19:50] <leonardr> sinzui, no problem
[19:50]  * sinzui is feeling ill
[19:51] <sinzui> thanks leonardr
[19:51] <bryceh> mars, oh right, there's a testfile html file which is a copy of a page from bugs.freedesktop.org for testing the parser
[19:51] <mars> bryceh, and the JavaScript looks strange.  Is line 840 even valid JS?
[19:52] <bryceh> mars, it's intentionally broken, however come to think of it I don't think I added a test to check that so guess I could just drop the file
[19:52]  * bryceh doublechecks
[19:53] <mars> lets see what lsdiff says here
[19:55] <mars> ok, that's better
[19:55] <bryceh> mars, ok dropped
[19:56] <mars> bryceh, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/516417/
[19:56] <mars> 803 lines, much nicer
[19:57] <lifeless> henninge: so here; I'm surprised you want me to land code in a higher entropy state than I presented it; thats something I am finding very hard to understand
[19:59] <henninge> lifeless: sorry, entropy?
[19:59] <henninge> ;)
[20:00] <lifeless> henninge: worse off ;)
[20:00] <lifeless> henninge: you want me to split two things that are tightly related
[20:01] <lifeless> in preparation for future work that would combine them
[20:01] <lifeless> why is that better ?
[20:01] <henninge> lifeless: well ...
[20:01] <henninge> ... it could serve as an incentive to clean it up quickly.
[20:01] <lifeless> thats not the goal of reviews though
[20:02] <lifeless> I have tonnes of incentive to fix things in the code base
[20:02] <lifeless> I need more time in the day, not more incentives
[20:02] <henninge> same here ;)
[20:02] <lifeless> *we* need understandable code and what you are proposing makes things less understandable until the later action is take.
[20:03] <henninge> True. I would very much prefer to do the move first.
[20:03] <lifeless> I think that that needs a benefit that is greater than the cost
[20:03] <henninge> What I suggested was the second-best solution.
[20:03] <lifeless> in which case we're holding an improvement to the system hostage to existing tech debt
[20:04] <henninge> lifeless: I won't force this on you. Please add the files as you propsed but also add a bug for moving the code.
[20:04] <lifeless> I'm delighted to do that
[20:04] <lifeless> I'll put an XXX in the config/__init__ and in the new files.
[20:04] <henninge> thanks
[20:04] <lifeless> would you like to see an incremental of the XXX ?
[20:05] <lifeless> I realise it will be getting late for you
[20:05] <henninge> lifeless: I started late today
[20:05] <henninge> let me look at the mp I think there were a few other issues that I did not mention yet.
[20:07] <henninge> lifeless: ah yes, can you please use "dedent" in fixture.py and test_fixture.py?
[20:07] <lifeless> henninge: not easily
[20:08] <henninge> why not?
[20:08] <lifeless> henninge: it has to be byte-for-byte
[20:08] <lifeless> my experience with dedent in the past on that sort of thing has been traumatic
[20:08] <lifeless> is the tag techdebt or tech-debt
[20:09] <henninge> tech-debt, I believe
[20:09] <henninge> yup
[20:10] <henninge> lifeless: I am not aware of those problems with dedent.
[20:10] <lifeless> ok, will try
[20:10] <henninge> The other option would be to but the string in a global variable that can be defined at file level.
[20:11] <henninge> has less indention.
[20:11] <henninge> It's just not very readable the way it is now. Thanks for trying.
[20:11] <lifeless> I think thats a good idea regardless
[20:11] <lifeless> perhaps class scoped.
[20:12] <henninge> could work, too.
[20:13] <henninge> but as I said, I'd like to know more about those dedent problems you mentioned. I never heard of those.
[20:14] <henninge> lifeless: also, I try to avoid multiline if conditions at all costs, as they read badly, too.
[20:14] <henninge> that's in scripts/__init__.py and logger.py
[20:14] <lifeless> I don't love them either, but its better than a temp variable most of the time
[20:14] <henninge> why is a temp variable not a good solution?
[20:16] <lifeless> they generally wrap as well
[20:16] <henninge> thanks for converting from unittest.TestCase to testtools, btw. ;)
[20:16] <lifeless> and you then have an assigned name which can be (mis)used, because its scoped too broadly
[20:16] <lifeless> I'd prefer to extract a helper method if the if gets *that* hairy
[20:17] <lifeless> but we often have a lot of infunction state in LP, or so it seems to me
[20:17] <henninge> but that is even more overhead.
[20:17] <lifeless> yes, but it can be directly tested
[20:17] <henninge> Also, a temp variable can help documentation.
[20:17] <lifeless> and isn't bound to a local so can't be misued
[20:17] <henninge> good point.
[20:18] <lifeless> for instance those ifs that you notice
[20:18] <henninge> but I don't see such a big risk of misuse
[20:18] <lifeless> in another pass at this, I'd be inclined to push that condition onto config
[20:18] <lifeless> 'if config.is_testing:
[20:18] <lifeless> or 'if config.is_testing():'
[20:19] <henninge> Yes! Brilliant! ;)
[20:20] <henninge> lifeless: Also, I think you can do without the second "if not BaseLayer.persist_test_services:" in layers.py but I may be misreading that.
[20:20] <lifeless> probably fallout, I wavered a couple of times each way there
[20:20] <lifeless> ok, dedent is working for this
[20:20] <henninge> cool
[20:21] <lifeless> I'm using the python reference doc style
[20:22] <lifeless> thanks for spotting that unneeded if
[20:22] <lifeless> yes, I'd missed nuking it
[20:23] <lifeless> I've pushed this up; I haven't done the config change - its fairly small, but I'd want to look around for similar stuff etc, and I'm sure there's more, so its not trivial to do well.
[20:28] <henninge> lifeless: looks good now. Thanks a lot. r=me ;-)
[20:29] <lifeless> my pleasure, thanks for the feedback
[21:46] <jcsackett> mars, have room for another in that queue?
[21:57] <jcsackett> or, actually, does anyone have time? it's 89 lines, but most of that is headings updated in a doctest.
[22:14] <mars> jcsackett, link?
[22:15] <jcsackett> mars: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jcsackett/launchpad/add-member-648476/+merge/38887
[22:15] <mars> thanks
[22:16] <mars> jcsackett, rs=mars
[22:16] <mars> jcsackett, no tests?
[22:17] <jcsackett> jcsackett: debatable need--it's exactly the same snippet that's tested elsewhere.
[22:17] <jcsackett> er, mars ^
[22:17]  * jcsackett must need more coffee.
[22:17] <mars> ah, ok,
[22:17] <mars> jcsackett, well, I approved it
[22:17] <jcsackett> thanks, mars.
[22:41] <bdmurray> abentley: I've updated the nomination branch per yesterday's discussion
[23:00] <abentley> bdmurray: past EOD, but I'll look at it first thing before me.
[23:03] <bdmurray> abentley: okay, thanks


[00:37] <flocculant> bluesabre: from my point of view, seems rather daft to SRU half a fix - better for people to know where they stand
[00:38] <flocculant> would be nice for the thunar god to fix it overnight - but given they are busy - I'd rather wait knowing where we stand
[00:52] <flocculant> Unit193: all I read re*86 processors was bdmurray questioning
[00:52] <flocculant> not seen anything since - but not all m/l of course
[09:43] <dkessel> knome: i will not be able to provide the time/infrastructure/bandwidth to build raspberry images for milestone testing
[09:43] <dkessel> so i guess we can scrap my action item...
[19:19] <pleia2> flocculant: finally g+ and fb-ed the thunar stuff, sorry for the delay (bad cold ruined my week)
[19:57] <akxwi-dave>  flocculant, just an uopdate.. rang all the combination of thunar tests and on my lenovo laptop no crashes still..


[01:26] <rabbitdew> I'm trying to pxeboot ubuntu 14.04. The installer starts, but then it seems to look in 'trusty-updates/restricted/debian-installer/binary-amd64/Packages and fails
[01:27] <rabbitdew> It fails because that path does not lead to anything. There's just an ubuntu 14 iso dropped hosted on anther server and that file is not there. Why does it keep looking there?
[01:29] <rabbitdew> Ok. all the other mirrors seem to have this except the one i set up locally. I think there's something wrong locally...
[06:19] <cpaelzer> jamespage: as of this night OVS master got the DPDK 16.07 bits
[06:19] <cpaelzer> jamespage: 0a0f39df: netdev-dpdk: Add support for DPDK 16.07
[07:51] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:49] <ejat> hi ...
[09:49] <ejat> im having error with all-in-one installer on 14.04.5
[09:49] <ejat> fenris@bigsoftware:~$ sudo openstack-install
[09:49] <ejat> Traceback (most recent call last):
[09:49] <ejat>   File "/usr/bin/openstack-install", line 282, in <module>
[09:49] <ejat>     ev = EventLoop(ui, cfg, logger)
[09:49] <ejat>   File "/usr/share/openstack/cloudinstall/ev.py", line 43, in __init__
[09:49] <ejat>     self.loop = self._build_loop()
[09:49] <ejat>   File "/usr/share/openstack/cloudinstall/ev.py", line 66, in _build_loop
[09:49] <ejat>     event_loop=urwid.AsyncioEventLoop(loop=evl), **additional_opts)
[09:49] <ejat> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'AsyncioEventLoop'
[10:30] <lordievader> Please use pastebin for console output.
[10:32] <lordievader> ejat: http://askubuntu.com/a/722167
[12:34] <florianb> Hello
[12:34] <florianb> I'm new to OpenStack and I would love to have it running in my own testlab at home
[12:34] <florianb> I've got 6 servers with 16-64GB Ram
[12:35] <florianb> Can I follow this guide to setup the master server: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/clouddocs/installer/en/single-install.html and then add compute instances ( the other servers )?
[13:23] <cpaelzer> rbasak: just saw that we got surpassed on pacemaker :-)
[13:23] <cpaelzer> rbasak: anyway this was blocking an SRU which is ok now no matter which merge got in, could you accept the Xenial task in bug 1595901 for me?
[13:44] <cpaelzer> rbasak: the bug now also got the relatively trivial SRU debdiff for Xenial
[13:54] <jamespage> cpaelzer, re-snapshotting master and rebuilding against 16.07 dpdk
[14:53] <jonah> Hi can anyone help, for some reason my sites are giving an intermittent white screen of death in the browser??
[14:53] <Amgine> php error.
[15:12] <cpaelzer> jamespage: thanks for the info
[15:41] <jamespage> cpaelzer, amd64 is looking ok - doing some py3 enablement at the same time as this update
[15:41] <jamespage> i386 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openvswitch/+bug/1609846
[15:45] <cpaelzer> jamespage: did you upload that to the git-packaging repo of ovs already ?
[15:45] <cpaelzer> just so I can try to find what is going on to help if I find some time?
[15:45] <jamespage> cpaelzer, no
[15:46] <jamespage> just pushed to git repo under ~ubuntu-server-dev
[15:47] <cpaelzer> jamespage: thanks will pick up there then
[16:04] <tsimonq2> I'm working on finishing the run once Default + crypted LVM test case for 14.04.5 right now
[16:42] <tsimonq2> (for i386 fwiw)
[17:57] <Amgine> Does anyone know if DDClient can be used for selective subdomains? e.g. wiki.domain.tld and blog.domain.tld on dynamic dns, and not mention forum.domain.tld because its A record points to a fixed IP.
[18:11] <coreycb> beisner, python-keystoneauth 2.4.1-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>~cloud0 is ready for promotion to mitaka-updates
[18:31] <riz0n> Hello friends. I am trying to figure out how restore a TAR backup of an Ubuntu system to a freshly created VMware system (to test the integrity and process of restoring backups). I need some advice, all the way from partitioning, to reconfiguring GRUB.
[18:39] <beisner> coreycb, unable to do uca activities atm, querying in fn #launchpad as it looks like a redirect/rewrite change in behavior or something along those lines.
[18:40] <coreycb> beisner, yikes, ok let's let that get sorted out.
[18:41] <beisner> coreycb, tldr; our tooling now fails with 404 on the .changes files
[18:42] <coreycb> beisner, that smells like a launchpad outage
[18:44] <beisner> coreycb, well it's odd.  check this:
[18:44] <beisner> our script reaches out to open:
[18:44] <beisner> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cloud-archive-private/+archive/ubuntu/mitaka-proposed/+files/python-keystoneauth1_2.4.1-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>~cloud0_source.changes
[18:44] <beisner> but gets 404 not found.  i see the same with wget.  however, if i hit a browser with that, i end up at:
[18:44] <beisner> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/276333938/python-keystoneauth1_2.4.1-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>~cloud0_source.changes
[18:44] <beisner> which does load.  it's as if there is a new redir/rewrite behavior that's less than polite.
[18:46] <coreycb> beisner, that is odd. I get the same behavior fwiw
[18:54] <riz0n> Hey guys, I am trying to restore a backed up Ubuntu system in TAR to a new server. Here's the details. The old system was set up with "Guided with LVM" and the target system has two partition, one at the beginning in ext4 and then an extended swap partition (No LVM). Once I untar the backup to the ext4 partition and grub-install then boot, it boots me into maintenance mode. What should I do to repair the restore partition in order to get it to boot pr
[18:54] <riz0n> operly?
[18:55] <ikonia> riz0n: not a realistic goal
[18:56] <ikonia> technically possible but a lot of effort
[18:56] <rattking> riz0n: you should run update-grub at the least. and you you definitely need to update /etc/fstab with your new UUID and lack of lvm
[18:56] <sarnold> riz0n: it might be easier to backup just the data you care about and then automate the deployment process instead
[18:56] <riz0n> ikonia: What do you mean not realistic? How would you recommend that I backup an Ubuntu server then restore the backup to a separate machine?
[18:57] <sarnold> riz0n: or if you want to continue with full-system backups, maybe investigate a full-system backup solution
[18:57] <ikonia> using restore products
[18:57] <ikonia> you've just untar'd old / not-working configs onto a new system
[18:57] <riz0n> ok let me check out the /etc/fstab .... how would I go about finding out uuids?
[18:57] <ikonia> the fstab the grub config
[18:57] <ikonia> thats all going to be wrong
[18:57] <ikonia> then there are more complex risks
[18:57] <rattking> riz0n: blkid
[18:58] <riz0n> Thank you so much. I got the backup/restore process to work one time, but I used some utility called "boot-restore" or something like that. But I never could get it to work twice.
[18:58] <rattking> but there will be more as others are saying that I am not remembering at the moment
[18:59] <ikonia> boot-restore is the least of your problbmes
[19:00] <rattking> oh and you will need to update-initramfs as that will be looking for lvm too
[19:15] <riz0n> Figured I would give you guys an update. So editing /etc/fstab then update-grub fixed it! You guys are great, thank you so much for your help!
[19:15] <sarnold> be sure to test all aspects of that system :) I'm still skeptical of a tar backup being Good Enuogh
[19:17] <riz0n> I will, right now the backup consists of a fresh ubuntu install (yes I know, kind of crazy to "restore" a clean ubuntu install, but the goal is to hammer out the process necessary of backing up a system then restoring to a different in case of failure).
[22:18] <derwood2> Heya folks, this is what I have been doing for the last few hours to get MaaS 2.0 up and running on 16.4.1? LTS, using four machines, all of which are the same apart from the server/controller/rack region controller having double the RAM of the nodes, this could do with some work, spellinga and grammar, but it's quick and dirty, and works.. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2332842
[22:18] <derwood2>  Now I need to find a way to install, Autopilot, OpenStack and Juju without any issues :D
[22:18] <derwood2> I have also found that if sometimes, your node does not fully start, it does a partial "thing" where it can fetch the data required through a PXE boot and then like hang for ages..., reboot the node and switch it's UTP patch cable from one port to another empty one and it fires up proper first time... I think it's cheap switches, mines from TPLinnk and it still does it..
[22:19] <derwood2> Can anyone point me in the right direction of going about installing "autopilot" on Ubuntu 16.4.1LTS with Maas2.0 installed, please :D
[22:21] <derwood2> ^^Get in, get out... Shake it baud about...
[22:21] <sarnold> derwood2: seen this yet? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/install-openstack-with-autopilot
[22:22] <sarnold> (I'm thinking mostly of step 6)
[22:22] <derwood2> Let me just have a look, cheers for the link :D (I have seen a few links, and they more on about 14.4LTS, I've had some serious issues) brb :D
[22:23] <derwood2> awesome :D brb "step 6"
[22:23] <sarnold> yes, now that 16.04.1 is out, I hope more of the documentation can be updated for it..
[22:23] <derwood2> Me too, more documention is really required :D
[22:25] <derwood2> Do you know what would be nice, if I could make a complete .ISO file from my current exact install of 16.4.1LTS with MaaS2.0 all sorted and configured... And then after I try this and it could break, I can just re-install using the nice one I've just spent two hours setting up..
[22:26] <david_theory> Okay. Noobie question... I need to start xserver, vnc server, autologin, and run a program we need to run... all with ubuntu server. brain hurting, anyone ever do this before?
[22:26] <derwood2> I use blend
[22:26] <derwood2> oops
[22:27] <derwood2> let me start again, I use Blender, and I have cenotOS installed as a minimum, it will boot and login for me and start blender without even the normal desktop being seen, but the blender window..
[22:28] <derwood2> Does that sound like something you would want, but rather then blender, using VNC..
[22:28] <david_theory> yeah similar
[22:28] <david_theory> funny
[22:28] <david_theory> we are doing blender renders
[22:28] <derwood2> ;)
[22:29] <sarnold> does blender not provide a daemon for rendering? o_O
[22:29] <david_theory> It has a very horrible one haha
[22:30] <derwood2> Blender is awesome, if you search for a erm, help page on how to network render, a few of them tell you how to get the system to autologin, and start blender, ready for netrendering.. this is done to a node so it takes up the least amount of RAM and time to setup..
[22:30] <david_theory> We use loki
[22:30] <derwood2> You could change the setting rather for blenders use, but for VNC and whatever else you need :D
[22:30] <david_theory> Can you send us that ami?
[22:30] <sarnold> it just seems .. silly and insane .. that something as routine as rendering would require a graphical environment
[22:31] <david_theory> We are using many 3rd part apps to manage files and render managment
[22:31] <sarnold> why on earth would they require such an annoyance? that would make it a thousand times harder to use on amazon or GCE or whatever
[22:31] <derwood2> I'm actually right now, setting up a private cloud RACK cluster using MaaS2.0, Autopilot, OpenStack and Juju so that I can use the whole cluster to spawn a VM with blender in and use all avaliable RAM and CPU for rendering :D
[22:31] <david_theory> GUI isnt required for blender we are doing some other crap with blender which needs a ui
[22:32] <derwood2> I will use it also for computations and the like too :D
[22:32] <derwood2> but thats the ease, or so I see it with MaaS, I can just config as I go, strip and redeploy depending on my needs.
[22:32] <david_theory> Can you send me the ami?
[22:33] <derwood2> I'm just trying to get it all to work, on this link, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2327868
[22:33] <sarnold> derwood2: .. I'm afraid that you may have an incorrect idea about what is possible with openstack; do you think that you're going to get to launch a single VM with 64 gigs of RAM and eight sockets of CPUs?
[22:33] <derwood2> Sure I'll find you the link for making blender autologin and start-up :D brb
[22:34] <derwood2> in the beginning yes, you are correct I was thinking that would be the case, but as I went along I found I would have to create a set of VM's one for each bare metal chassis :( Shame eh..
[22:35] <david_theory> so confused hehe
[22:35] <sarnold> derwood2: yeah; the old 'beowulf cluster' project existed to try to build Bigger Computers from little ones, but I don't know if anyone still uses it any more
[22:36] <derwood2> I used to use Beowolf's way back in late 99/02 with MPI proper nice.. sadly I have been out the game for over 10 years..
[22:37] <derwood2> David... This might help you out I think : https://cgcookie.com/tutorial/setting-up-a-renderfarm/
[22:38] <david_theory> Oh, only issue right now is ubuntu server doing an autologin and starting a vnc server
[22:39] <sarnold> david_theory: you could probably isntall ubuntu-desktop or unity, then use the control panel's "users" page to enable automatic login
[22:39] <sarnold> it's a bit of a shame, that's a few hundred megabytes of RAM that'd be profitably used for rendering
[23:09] <derwood2> I was hoping I could use MaaS2.0 to spawn  a very small ubuntu install that would just contain the programs I require, even thought I could get them to spawn a VM with mpirun already contained rather then having to install all the nodes with a small copy. Like we used to.. This week of playing with MaaS is not looking to be a good use of time :(
[23:10] <derwood2> I've just tried OpenStack again using section 6 and I've had to scrape it, I can get it to start to show with conjure-up? But some serious bootstrap errors using all the avaliable options like Nova and the other two.
[23:11] <derwood2> I need to find out why this is happening, but I'm not sure how?


[07:49] <UNIm95> apw: Hi. I have tried to update my kernel to   3.13.0-66-generic with linux-image-generic package. But i got Kernel oops.
[07:51] <UNIm95> apw: My first bug report was here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1497184
[07:51] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1497184 in linux (Ubuntu Vivid) "Kernel-panic with 3.13.0-64.104 generic kernel (BUG at net/core/skbuff:1290)" [High,Fix released]
[07:54] <UNIm95> After 3.13-64 kernel in 14.04 i cannot use  ubuntu at all
[07:59] <smb> UNIm95, Hm, what upload number (dpkg -l |grep linux-image) is that? Should be 108 to be safe
[08:49] <apw> UNIm95, yeah what smb says, we'd need a specific version number and an indication of whether the kernel oops is the same as that bug
[08:50] <UNIm95> smb: 3.13.0-66.107
[08:51] <smb> UNIm95, Ok, 107 unfortunately had another "issue" you should update once more to get 108
[08:51] <UNIm95> apw: smb Now i'm using web interface of freenode. I havo sound notifications.
[08:51] <UNIm95> I have no sound notifications
[08:52] <UNIm95> Ok. Im will try now.
[08:52] <UNIm95> But after *64 kernel i cannot use my computers.
[08:52] <UNIm95> When i boot i choose *-63 kernel
[08:53] <smb> UNIm95, Ok, sound issues might be part of the problems. One general thing, if you need a computer to be more stable you should disable the proposed pocket once you are good.
[08:53] <apw> you can update from any of the older kernels
[08:55] <UNIm95> smb: No! I have no sound issues. I have noticed you answer only yet.
[08:55] <smb> UNIm95, ah ok. got it
[08:56] <UNIm95> usually I'm using pidgin.
[08:56] <UNIm95> And i got another error.
[08:56] <UNIm95> while updating
[08:56] <UNIm95> E: libpam-systemd: 55.2632:package is in a very bad inconsistent state; you should  reinstall it before attempting configuration
[08:57] <apw> UNIm95, normaly apt tells you what to run to get out of the mess at the bottom
[09:02] <UNIm95> Ok. Last error with libpam-systemd was my fault. I fixed version of this lib in synaptic.
[09:05] <UNIm95> I'm going to reboot. I hope i can boot with *-66.108
[09:06] <smb> That one work for me at least
[09:09] <UNIm95> Ok. Now booted without problems.
[09:09] <UNIm95> No oops messages or errors while loading.
[09:10] <smb> Sounds good. :)
[09:12] <UNIm95> smb: Not really. With *-64.* I got random kernel panic.
[09:12] <UNIm95> smb: usaully first 30 minutes was everything ok.
[09:14] <smb> UNIm95, Well yeah, the initial one in proposed had those issues and was replaced later (again same abi number but incremented upload), then there was a -65 which you seemed to have missed (which was ok as far as I can tell). And now you somehow unfortunately went straight to the next one that caused problems.
[09:16] <smb> UNIm95, As I said before, on machines that need to be more stable, you should disable the "proposed" pocket after you are done testing (often you are asked to enable it to verify something)
[09:20] <UNIm95> smb:  But prororsed have new Firefox, Chromium and thunderbird. This apps i need for  work and life.
[09:22] <smb> UNIm95, Actually no. The proposed pocket has updates first before the go to updates (as a wider testing). If you want things as soon as possible, yes, proposed helps.  Not that we really want that to happen too often but ... things happen.
[09:29] <UNIm95> smb: Ok. Thanks for information. I thought than only proposed keeps some apps updated.
[09:29] <apw> right, allays bear in mind that -proposed is where all the testing occurs, so things in -proposed are effectivly untested when the appear
[09:30] <apw> updates in -proposed migrate to -updates when they are deemed good enough
[09:30] <smb> Yeah that ^ :)
[09:31] <apw> in this case the .107 kernel failed that testing and was replaced without ever reaching -updates, win
[09:34] <smb> In those cases it is good to have more people with proposed enabled to catch things. But it seems there might be a slightly better explanation needed so all those understand the implications and the risk.


[09:38] <Duplo> HI, I installed Lunutu 13.04 form http://lubuntu.net but i don't have root password
[09:38] <Duplo> someone to help me?
[10:43] <imark> will lubuntu be introducing an lts release now that the standard support cycle has been slashed from 18 to 9 months?
[14:53] <TheNewbGuy> So I downloaded the libsdl1.2dev or w/e that package is for the SDL libraries and I don't know where they are to link them with Code::Blocks, anyone know?
[14:54] <TheNewbGuy> I got them via the synaptic(?) package manager if that helps.
[14:57] <TheNewbGuy> Nevermind, solved.
[15:43] <TheNewbGuy> Has anybody found a fix to changing inactive window font color on the LXDE taskbar?
[16:04] <TheNewbGuy> Well for those of you similarly interested the fix is to change your buttons to "flat buttons"
[16:05] <n-iCe> hi
[16:05] <TheNewbGuy> Hello.
[16:06] <n-iCe> :)
[16:07] <TheNewbGuy> So how goes it?
[16:17] <n-iCe> alright
[19:04] <adamgolding> what's the difference between "OEM install (for manafacturers)" and the 'normal' install method?
[19:09] <holstein> adamgolding: i would say, you are "normal", unless you are an OEM manufacturer, in which case, you would know
[19:09] <holstein> adamgolding: there would be specific options in that method that would work for OEM's
[19:09] <adamgolding> I think I found the answer here just now: http://books.google.ca/books?id=mexXsNouG4MC&pg=PA77&lpg=PA77&dq=%22normal%22+%22use+driver+update+disc%22+%22OEM+install%22&source=bl&ots=5Pp3xU3pC0&sig=3_ymTn6oazVbUdFr1CS9P2Mr_u4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=qwClUab5NMepyAH2voHABA&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=%22normal%22%20%22use%20driver%20update%20disc%22%20%22OEM%20install%22&f=false
[19:10] <holstein> adamgolding: i would refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[19:10] <holstein> !oem
[19:10] <adamgolding> I would use that approach in the future if I want to make an image for several (real or virtual) machines
[19:11] <holstein> unless you want them to be different.. or if the hardware is drastically different per machine
[19:11] <adamgolding> yeah
[19:11] <adamgolding> k
[22:44] <n-iCe> hi


[09:26] <thom> mdz: the firefox homepage is localizable. every single mozilla-firefox-locale-foo package needs to be fixed
[09:26] <pitti> yay
[09:27] <jdub> thom: good lord...
[09:27] <pitti> fortunately most of them come from a single source package
[09:27] <pitti> so it shouldn't be as hard as it sounds at first
[09:28] <thom> pitti: cool
[09:28] <thom> pitti: i'm grabbing locale-all now to make sure i'm right
[09:28] <pitti> thom: IIRC the debs from -all don't even ship homepages
[09:29] <dholbach> lamont: you were right - we're all set
[09:29] <pitti> thom: although, the home pages could be in the xpi
[09:29] <thom> pitti: -en-gb did
[09:29] <thom> it's in the xpi
[09:29] <pitti> crap
[09:29] <pitti> that means all xpi files have to be changed
[09:29] <pitti> ?
[09:29] <thom> yup
[09:30] <herve> hi, the motu needs an autoconf/gtk/gnome magician to fix gcompris
[09:30] <pitti> and they aren't diffable, thus another orig.tar.gz, yay
[09:31] <mdz> thom: AWESOME
[09:35] <blahrus> hey, I think I have found a bit of a bug in ubuntu amd64
[09:35] <blahrus> I am unable to get and sound card to work.
[09:35] <ogra> mvo, ping.de thinks my mailserver is a dialup *g*
[09:35] <thom> mdz: i, um, knew you'd be thrilled
[09:35] <dholbach> ogra: he's still at sports, i think
[09:35] <blahrus> the audio test in ubuntu device databse plays the sound, nothing comes out, vol is up and not muted
[09:36] <ogra> dholbach, gah...
[09:36] <pitti> blahrus: all relevant audio channels are up? the gnome mixer might not display all
[09:36] <pitti> blahrus: "pidof esd" shows a number?
[09:36] <blahrus> let me check
[09:37] <blahrus> pitti: no number
[09:37] <pitti> blahrus: then esd has died for you
[09:37] <blahrus> hum . . ..
[09:37] <pitti> blahrus: try to start "esd" from a shell
[09:37] <blahrus> pitti: how do is start it
[09:37] <blahrus> ahh nm :)
[09:37] <pitti> blahrus: just "esd"
[09:38] <blahrus> pid.c: daemo already ruinning
[09:38] <pitti> blahrus: if it exits immediately with an error, we are interested in seing the error
[09:38] <pitti> uh
[09:38] <astharot> aff
[09:38] <astharot> pitti: if you answered to my message I didn't read :P
[09:38] <pitti> blahrus: but still pidof esd doesn't show anything? odd
[09:38] <pitti> blahrus: "ps aux | grep esd"
[09:38] <lamont> mdz: ubuntu all done
[09:38] <lamont> mdz: kubunt done on i386, ppc, compressing on amd64
[09:38] <blahrus> pitti: just returns a blank line
[09:38] <pitti> astharot: I said that I never write uploaded names into USNs
[09:39] <astharot> ok
[09:39] <pitti> blahrus: rm -r /tmp/.esd
[09:39] <pitti> blahrus: then "esd" again
[09:39] <astharot> pitti: btw, I was just kidding!
[09:39] <blahrus> pid.c: daemo already ruinning
[09:40] <pitti> blahrus: ls -lda /tmp/.esd*
[09:40] <pitti> blahrus: btw, does it really print "ruinning"
[09:40] <pitti> :-)
[09:40] <pitti> blahrus: it's ruining your nerves, I suppose
[09:40] <blahrus> pitti: I removed that whole dir . . . .
[09:41] <blahrus> pitti: yea my nerves are at end with this.
[09:41] <pitti> blahrus: it should be recreated on startup
[09:41] <lamont> back in a few
[09:41] <pitti> blahrus: in fact it's existence is probably the cause that it doesn't start again
[09:41] <blahrus> pitti: well the dir is gone, and esd wont start
[09:42] <blahrus> tired a killall, and it says no process
[09:42] <pitti> blahrus: do you have another user logged in atm?
[09:43] <blahrus> nope
[09:43] <blahrus> fresh boot
[09:43] <blahrus> just kinda freaked out when I opened the mixer
[09:43] <Kamion> yay, not offline for the evening after all
[09:44] <pitti> blahrus: sudo rm -r /tmp/.esd*     -> big hammer :-)
[09:44] <blahrus> k
[09:45] <blahrus> no such file or dir
[09:45] <pitti> blahrus: try rm ~/.esd_auth
[09:45] <pitti> blahrus: for me, esd startup is slightly more verbose ("/tmp/.esd/socket
[09:45] <pitti> This socket already exists indicating esd is already running.
[09:45] <pitti> "
[09:45] <pitti> )
[09:46] <blahrus> alright that removed
[09:46] <pitti> blahrus: it doesn't show you more than just "already running"?
[09:46] <blahrus> start esd again?
[09:46] <pitti> yeah
[09:46] <blahrus> says it already running
[09:46] <blahrus> would you like to log into the box?
[09:46] <blahrus> just a spare box I was messing with
[09:46] <pitti> blahrus: please /msg the complete output before
[09:47] <blahrus> I love ubuntu on my laptop thought I would give it a try
[09:47] <pitti> blahrus: I /msg you, it's a bit off-topic here
[09:47] <blahrus> thanks :)
[10:02] <thully> hi - I just noticed an issue with Hoary RC - I clicked on an "About Ubuntu" link somewhere (forget where, it wasn't on the System menu) and got redirected to file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[10:02] <thully> which says "The Warty Warthog Release"
[10:03] <jdub> thully: that'll be fixed in the next u-a update
[10:03] <thully> OK
[10:05] <mdz> thom: at least they're all in one source package now, right?
[10:06] <mdz> lamont: wow, amd64 was last?
[10:07] <thom> mdz: yeah
[10:07] <Kamion> mdz: new install CDs done; they don't contain the last few uploads I did though (base-installer, base-config)
[10:07] <thom> i'm mangling some perl together
[10:07] <Kamion> but they should have everything else
[10:07] <mdz> Kamion: I was about to fire off live builds, or are you going to do it?
[10:08] <Kamion> mdz: I'll do it now
[10:08] <mdz> Kamion: ok, both ubuntu and kubuntu please
[10:08] <Kamion> are the new rootfses ready?
[10:08] <mdz> lamont said the last one was compressing 30 minutes ago
[10:08] <mdz> so I assume so
[10:08] <Kamion> Ubuntu started
[10:09] <dholbach> ha... have already 2 requests from (female) friends that want the april-1st-gdm-login-screen again :-))))
[10:10] <zyga> dholbach: ask them for a female picture in return and compose another login screen ;]
[10:11] <lamont> kubuntu,ubuntu done x3 a while ago
[10:11] <mdz> Kamion: I'm doing amd64 and powerpc warty->hoary upgrade tests now (including the xorg-driver-synaptics upload I just did)
[10:18] <Kamion> Ubuntu daily live done, Kubuntu daily live building
[10:20] <mdz> /usr/share/gnome/help/stickynotes_applet/uk/stickynotes_applet.xml:204: element figure: validity error : ID stickynotes-using-left-fig already defined
[10:20] <mdz> scrollkeeper complained about that during upgrade; not sure if it's an issue for new installs
[10:20] <mdz> we really should just throw that output away; it's logged anyway
[10:22] <seb128> mdz: I'll fix it
[10:22] <mdz> seb128: thanks
[10:29] <thom> meh: perl -pi -e 's#(homePageDefault=).*#$1file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html#;s#(browser.startup.homepage=).*#$1file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html#;s#(browser.throbber.url=).*#$1file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html#' browser-region/region.properties
[10:31] <Lain82> Hello, I want to know if a graphical configurator tool exist on Ubuntu ( sorry for my bad english ...)
[10:32] <kent> Lain82, well, this is a #ubuntu question.
[10:33] <Lain82> ok ! sorry, I ask it here because I want to know if a project exist ...
[10:40] <mdz> Kamion: new isos are crawling down (hoary-live-amd64 took 16:45)
[10:40] <mdz> I'll do a full test cycle when they arrive
[10:45] <thom> pitti: so, we don't have to reupload a new orig; *but* we uncondtionally change the homepage everytime for all the language packs
[10:45] <thom> is that a bad thing?
[10:46] <pitti> thom: change to a localized Ubuntu home page, or to the English one?
[10:46] <thom> well, we don't have localized home pages yet, do we?
[10:46] <pitti> we might have in the future
[10:46] <thom> sure
[10:46] <thom> at that point, we can do something fancier
[10:47] <pitti> for hoary, it's certainly fine
[10:47] <pitti> to hardcode the english one
[10:47] <thom> pitti: i'll send you the diff for debian/rules in a second
[10:47] <Kamion> mdz: ok, I probably won't be able to do any testing until tomorrow now
[10:48] <Kamion> mdz: Kubuntu daily install building for good measure
[10:53] <Kamion> god, that ntfsresize/udev interaction bug is creepy
[11:00] <Kamion>   263 publish-release
[11:03] <Kamion> Kubuntu daily install done
[11:03] <blahrus_> mdz, I tested all mixer levels
[11:04] <mdz> blahrus_: please follow up to bugzilla
[11:06] <blahrus_> done :)
[11:18] <mdz> Kamion, elmo: cdimage rsync is not up to date; it's showing me 20050329 for /current/
[11:18] <mdz> ]  rsync -aP --exclude '*ia64*' --exclude source rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/daily/current/ | grep 'iso$'
[11:18] <mdz> -rw-rw-r--   646940672 2005/03/29 17:49:05 hoary-install-amd64.iso
[11:18] <mdz> -rw-rw-r--   626288640 2005/03/29 17:59:34 hoary-install-i386.iso
[11:18] <mdz> -rw-rw-r--   659660800 2005/03/29 18:30:15 hoary-install-powerpc.iso
[11:19] <thom> mdz: i'm just about to upload mozilla-ffox-locales-all fyi
[11:19] <mdz> thom: sounds harmless enough
[11:19] <Kamion> mdz: WFM
[11:20] <mdz> maybe it's only one of the mirrors in the rotation?
[11:20] <mdz> yep
[11:20] <mdz> if I try a few times, I see both a 2005-03-29 set and a 2005-04-05 set
[11:20] <Kamion> yeah, <IP_ADDRESS> is out of date
[11:20] <thom> mdz: nod; firefox is uploaded also and that should be all the fixes we need to get locales nailed
[11:21] <mdz> <IP_ADDRESS> is the out-of-date one
[11:21] <Kamion> thom: what machine is <IP_ADDRESS>?
[11:21] <mdz> that probably explains why my rsync took so long; my isos may have been a week old
[11:21] <Kamion> it is not any of the ones I'm currently triggering
[11:22] <elmo> Kamion: mcmurdo.ubuntu.com
[11:22] <Kamion> elmo: do I need to start triggering it?
[11:22] <elmo> please
[11:23] <elmo> I thought I'd asked you, sorry
[11:23] <Kamion> elmo: ok, done - FWIW the current list is syncproxy, mirnyy, frei, durville, mcmurdo, orcadas
[11:23] <mdz> stopping my rsync, since it's apparently overwriting half my isos with old ones
[11:23] <Kamion> well, done when baz finishes
[11:24] <elmo> Kamion: that matches /etc/rsyncd.conf on little, so should be good
[11:25] <mdz> Kamion: you're also triggering an update, right?
[11:26] <Kamion> elmo: bash: /home/archvsync/cdimagesync: No such file or directory
[11:26] <mdz> or trying to
[11:27] <elmo> details
[11:27] <elmo> fixed, syncing
[11:28] <Kamion> yup, seems ok
[11:28] <Kamion> (er, yeah, assuming two concurrent syncs won't break shit ...)
[11:29] <elmo> no, it's got locking
[11:35] <elmo> eh, why?
[11:36] <lamont> because I hate 48MB downloads
[11:36] <lamont> esp since l-r-m really only tends to change abi-versions, and not much else, it seems
[11:37] <elmo> why is the source so insanely large?
[11:37] <lamont> binary blobs of firmware for all the various binary-blob drivers, I believe
[11:37] <lamont> or maybe not firmware
[11:38] <lamont> maybe binary driver
[11:38] <thom> binary drivers
[11:39] <lamont> thom: yeah - forgot for a second that the firmware is in main
[11:40] <Kamion> thom: I trust the random capitalisation in "ubuNtu-artwork" in your m-f-locale-all changelog was a typo? :)
[11:41] <thom> Kamion: yeah
[11:41] <thom> :-)
[11:41] <pitti> thom: your own derivative of ubuntu? :-)
[11:41] <Kamion> or, rather, a typo confined to the changelog ... :)
[11:42] <thom> Kamion: indeed; tired eyes. the code itself is a-ok
[11:42] <thom> pitti: *g*
[11:53] <elmo> new archive.u.c in the mix, pls shout if anyone sees any problems
[11:55] <mvo> seb128: any news from the frensh translation? was it reviewed again or should I upload what I have now?
[11:56] <seb128> mvo: lemme check
[11:56] <seb128> hum, is there an issue with the debian mails ?
[11:57] <elmo> if your mail goes through gluck, yes.  if not, not that I'm aware of
[11:58] <seb128> I don't know how the @debian.org are handled by the debian machines
[11:59] <seb128> but it was working fine this afternoon, so I guess that's not due to gluck
[11:59] <seb128> mvo: there is a diff for the po here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-french/2005/04/msg00190.html
[11:59] <seb128> mvo: do you want me to merge it ?
[11:59] <seb128>
[11:59] <doko> jbailey: ping
[11:59] <mvo> seb128: if it applies cleanly I can merge it
[11:59] <mvo> seb128: does it look sane? my frensh is a bit "rusty" ;)
[12:00] <mdz> Apr  5 21:58:37 kernel: EXT2-fs warning: mounting fs with errors, running e2fsck is recommended
[12:00] <mdz> Apr  5 21:58:38 casper: Scanning for swap devices...
[12:00] <mdz> Apr  5 21:58:38 casper: Found /dev/hda4
[12:00] <mdz> Apr  5 21:58:38 casper: Using swap devices:  /dev/hda4
[12:00] <mdz> Apr  5 21:58:38 kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device
[12:00] <mdz> Apr  5 21:58:38 kernel: dm-1: rw=0, want=3932232, limit=3270656
[12:00] <mdz> Apr  5 21:58:38 kernel: EXT2-fs error (device dm-1): ext2_get_inode: unable to read inode block - inode=246022, block=1966115
[12:00] <seb128> don't relay on mail to join me so, I use my debian alias which seems to have issues
[12:00] <mdz> lamont: ^^ hoary-live-powerpc
[12:00] <Kamion> unfortunately all my @debian.org mail goes through gluck
[12:00] <mdz> lamont: could be a media problem, but please check the cloop output
[12:00] <seb128> mvo: yep, looks fine
[12:00] <jbailey> doko: here!
[12:00] <Kamion> hmm, klecker still seems to be set up to do bsmtp ...
[12:01] <elmo> kamion: I wouldn't try it
[12:01] <pitti> night, guys
[12:01] <elmo> unless you have an account there
[12:02] <elmo> gluck should be back soonish
[12:02] <Kamion> elmo: I do, as it happens, although it, er, could be argued to be an abuse I guess


[07:50] <andrejz> hello dpm!
[07:51] <dpm> morning andrejz
[08:16] <andrejz> dpm, can you please send the list of todos from the meeting?
[08:16] <dpm> hi andrejz, yes sorry, I've been busy with other projects. I'll try to do it this evening.
[08:17] <andrejz> ok, thanks
[08:17] <andrejz> no problem i have been busy myself too
[10:20] <andrejz> dpm, i cannot disable git-gui-glossary from administration page
[10:22] <dpm> andrejz, could you elaborate on why you can't? i.e. permission problem, LP oops...
[10:22] <andrejz> the template owner is "katie", which is invalid value
[10:23] <andrejz> hence i cannot save it and am not suer what should i change owner field to
[10:25] <dpm> andrejz, try to change it to ubuntu-translations-coordinators (not sure if packages can be owned by teams) or to yourself. Generally, I would simply change the owner to the last uploader, but it seems that it's being uploaded automatically by ubuntu archive auto-sync: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/git/+changelog
[10:35] <andrejz> sorry, running 11.10 and emapthy has apparently still some bugs, can you repeat whatever you wrote, dpm
[10:36] <dpm> andrejz, sure, no problem :-)
[10:36] <dpm> andrejz, try to change it to ubuntu-translations-coordinators (not sure if packages can be owned by teams) or to yourself. Generally, I would simply change the owner to the last uploader, but it seems that it's being uploaded automatically by ubuntu archive auto-sync: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/git/+changelog
[10:36] <andrejz> also i have another question
[10:36] <andrejz> kdepim is in main
[10:36] <andrejz> but has > 30 templates
[10:36] <andrejz> how can i determine which one is installed and used by default and which not
[10:38] <dpm> andrejz, I think the only thing to determine is if kdepim is installed by default (i.e. you don't need to look at each template, if I'm not mistaken). Here's one way to do it:
[10:40] <dpm> You can go to the CD image download page and look at the .manifest file, which contains all the binary files provided in the image (i.e. what is installed by default)
[10:40] <dpm> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[10:40] <dpm> there you can have a look at:
[10:40] <dpm> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/oneiric-desktop-i386.manifest
[10:40] <dpm> which is the manifest file
[10:40] <dpm> and look for kdepim
[10:40] <dpm> if it's in there, it means it's installed by default
[10:41] <dpm> that's just one easy way, although not very accurate
[10:41] <dpm> it's not accurate because the manifest file contains binary package names, while the templates in LP are sorted in source packages
[10:42] <dpm> but I think it should do in this case
[10:42] <andrejz> i prefer the accurate way if it's not too difficult ;)
[10:43] <dpm> it's not difficult, but it takes some time, something I don't have much of right now, unfortunately :(
[10:43] <andrejz> i see
[10:43] <andrejz> i think it would be then best to use the less accurate method and set the templates
[10:43] <andrejz> they can be reviewed again at a later time if time constaints permit it
[10:44] <dpm> for the accurate method, if you're interested: you have to either use existing apt/dpkg tools to determine the source package name from a binary package name, or write a python script for that
[12:40] <andrejz> dpm is it possible to apply template change to only a part of the templates from the list for now?
[12:40] <dpm> andrejz, you mean priority change?
[12:40] <andrejz> yes, priority change
[12:40] <dpm> yes, sure
[12:41] <andrejz> a lot of people will be working on translations next weekend (UGJ)
[12:41]  * dpm adds it to the TODO list for this evening


[03:28] <jonnymilano> Are people using LTS versions (like I am)?
[12:04] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[12:08] <emnz> hello
[16:06] <emnz> hey guys, I asked this in the main channel but didn't get a response, hope its okay to ask here too?
[16:06] <emnz> which is more active/well-supported and closest to regular ubuntu: Xubuntu or Ubuntu MATE? I don't need very lightweight. I tried to tweak Unity but have given up, main reason being the launcher. Xubuntu and Ubuntu MATE look very similar to me at the moment.
[16:07] <emnz> I know this is a very broad question and reliant on taste/preference/opinion, but for a novice user coming from Windows, any comments?
[16:25] <TJ-> I think both are community supported only
[16:35] <emnz> yeah I accept that it won't be as well supported as stock ubuntu
[16:35] <emnz> I'm loving MATE right now, so good
[16:35] <emnz> but please, if anyone has any comments - I'd love to hear
[18:38] <daftykins> i found xubuntu lacks some sane defaults for a laptop, was a bit odd to me
[19:17] <emnz> daftykins: ok cool thanks, any other comments/suggestions?
[19:23] <daftykins> they're probably all deficient in one way or another :>
[19:36] <emnz> daftykins: good answer, that I am beginning to learn the hard way xD
[19:37] <daftykins> i find that it's all well and good having configurability, but when you stray too far from the norms you're just giving yourself a headache to support a lot of the time
[19:37] <emnz> probably a good idea I continue to use it in a VM, until I'm really comfortable
[19:38] <emnz> that is the exact issue I'm tackling with, I gave up on unity and its lack of a decent launcher, but I'm starting to think if its not a better idea in my case to just deal with it, and receive the stability of the regular unity ubuntu
[19:39] <emnz> im far from a sysadmin or a programmer
[19:39] <emnz> im a windows 7 GUI kiddie
[19:41] <emnz> what do you use personally? and what skill level are you?
[19:59] <daftykins> i use Windows :) i use Linux distros for web servers and VMs, but don't believe it's worth playing with Linux much given i do desktop support for folk tied to Windows
[20:01] <emnz> well thats.... encouraging, LOL
[20:02] <daftykins> hehe
[20:03] <daftykins> if i used a Linux desktop i'd not be able to support my clients properly.
[20:04] <emnz> yeah I understand, one can hope it continues to grow in support i suppose
[20:09] <daftykins> it's funny how many of them are so obsessed with having damn MS Office really :P
[20:09] <daftykins> or specifically, Outlook
[20:10] <daftykins> tried having one person use google mail instead, but nope they couldn't handle it
[20:10] <daftykins> (not the brightest of clients)
[21:02] <emnz> haha
[21:02] <emnz> seen that a lot too
[21:03] <emnz> and they want their simple password for Everything
[21:06] <emnz> you have any idea how to keep a Plank dock above the Main panel/taskbar
[21:07] <daftykins> getting a bit too close to support questions now really
[21:07] <daftykins> and i'm no use as i don't use desktop
[21:08] <emnz> ah yes, my mistake
[21:08] <emnz> ok np


[02:15] <infinity> cjwatson: I'll do the d-i ABI bump tomorrow.  It's going to require some seed mangling to deal with the omap->generic rename and such.
[14:08] <Andrei_> hey can someone help we with installing ubuntu studio 13.04 with wubi with a already downloaded iso ?
[20:03] <SuperMatt> hey guys, I'm trying the raring daily installer for today (my machine needed a reinstall for windows reasons), but it seems to hang on the second section (where you tell it you want to download updates during the install, etc)
[20:33] <SuperMatt> might be this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1080701
[20:33] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1080701 in ubiquity "After 'Preparing to install Ubuntu' screen, raring installation hangs" [High,Confirmed]
[20:55] <SuperMatt> sorted, I had to run gparted once first


[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #137389 in ubuntu "No Sound from onboard Analog Devices AD1888 SI7012" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137389
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #137390 in rt2500 (universe) "rt2500 configuration utility is deprecated" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137390
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #137392 in websvn (universe) "[Sync request]  Sync websvn 1.61-22.2 from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137392
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #137393 in vertex (universe) "(gutsy) vertex - missing menu icon" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137393
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137394 in egroupware (universe) "[Sync request]  Sync egroupware 1.2.107-2.dfsg-1.1 from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137394
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #137396 in compiz (main) "[gutsy]   after dist-upgrade from feisty,the xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.6.193-1ubuntu1 give me a freeze black screen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137396
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137401 in ubuntu "kde apps draw very slowly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137401
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #137402 in update-manager (main) "while trying to update " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137402
[02:01] <ubotu> New bug: #137404 in knetworkmanager (main) "[gutsy amd64]  knetworkmanager executable missing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137404
[02:01] <ubotu> New bug: #137405 in xserver-xgl (universe) "[gutsy]  cycle of respawning xserver until stuck or in X with Xglx window" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137405
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #137406 in apport (main) "apport stopped working" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137406
[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #137409 in kdepim (main) "akregator" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137409
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #137418 in apt (main) "Feisty 7.04 synaptic or apt-get not working behind firewall" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137418
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #137419 in ubuntu "Firefox broken for internet sites" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137419
[04:50] <ubotu> New bug: #137420 in ubuntu "hard disk power management after resume" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137420
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #137421 in compizconfig-settings-manager (universe) "Rotate Cube is missing the option to rotate right using the keyboard" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137421
[05:26] <ubotu> New bug: #137422 in ubuntu "nvidia drivers do not work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137422
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #137424 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox crashes on downloading magnatune flac files" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137424
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137425 in ubuntu "Alternate Installer Freezes on Blue" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137425
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #137426 in dolphin (main) "Dolphin does not have a delete option" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137426
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #137427 in suphp (universe) "poor default security mode" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137427
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #137429 in firefox (main) "Problem loading page" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137429
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #137431 in amarok (main) "amarok unmounts external drives" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137431
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #137430 in firehol (universe) "Could not install firehol - Feisty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137430
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #137432 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "[nvidia-glx-legacy]  nvidia module won't load with 2.6.22-10 kernel (gutsy)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137432
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #137436 in traffic-vis (universe) "[Sync Request Universe]  traffic-vis 0.34-20" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137436
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #137438 in squidguard (universe) "Depends: squid | squid3 please?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137438
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #137439 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "irq problems: 2.6.22 kernel won't boot without 'irqpoll' option." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137439
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #137441 in ubuntu "update iwlwifi drivers and firmware in gutsy >=0.1.14" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137441
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #137442 in mailx (main) "package mailx 1:8.1.2-0.20070424cvs-1 failed to install/upgrade: unable to create `./usr/bin/mail'" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137442
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #137443 in gnome-power-manager (main) "display brightness resets and "flashes" on IBM T23 in Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137443
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #137444 in app-install-data-ubuntu (main) "Unable to open synaptic or use apt-get" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137444
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #137445 in kdelibs (main) "common source for many apps crashing: KDELIBS4C2A" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137445
[08:41] <dholbach> good morning
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137453 in ekiga (main) "lack video size UI config option" [Wishlist,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137453
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #137454 in pybaz (universe) "Please sync pybaz (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137454
[08:51] <Kom0dor> Erm, has anybody had any problems installing build-essential recently?
[08:52] <Kom0dor> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[08:52] <Kom0dor> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[08:52] <Kom0dor> that package should be filed.
[08:52] <Kom0dor> is [part of]  what apt-get said when I tried to "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[08:58] <thekorn> hey dholbach
[08:58] <dholbach> hey thekorn
[08:58] <dholbach> thekorn: I just uploaded your fix!
[08:58] <thekorn> juhu, thanks
[09:00] <dholbach> not sure if it gets automatically closed, let's see :)
[09:10] <thekorn> dholbach: will be back later today
[09:42] <ScottK> dholbach: Was there some kind of new pacakge freeze waiver for sqlite-ruby?
[09:43] <dholbach> ScottK: oh, I'm sorry - I forgot that - I was triaging the sponsoring queue and it was lacking only one +1
[09:44] <ScottK> Ah.  OK.  What now?
[09:44] <ScottK> oops.  Thought I was on motu.
[09:44] <dholbach> ScottK: I don't think it makes much sense to ask the motu-uvf for an ACK retroactively
[09:45] <Hobbsee> dholbach: indeed.
[09:45] <Hobbsee> but still, there was a freeze, and we need to make sure that people honour it, even the powers of MOTU such as yourself.
[09:45] <ScottK> Well I wouldn't have given it for that anyway.  Since we already have ruby-sqlite3, having ruby-sqlite isn't the kind of thing to break a freeze for.
[09:47] <ScottK> dholbach: I think the right thing to do is for you to ask an archive admin to reject it.  There's already a lot of stuff in NEW that either was uploaded pre-freeze or has a waiver.
[09:47] <ScottK> I don't think all of it will get through NEW as it is.
[09:47] <dholbach> ScottK: alright
[09:48] <ScottK> Your call since you're the actual boss, but that's what I think the right answer is.
[09:49] <ScottK> Good night all.
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #137456 in lighttpd (universe) "[UVFe]  New upstream version of lighttpd fixes security issues" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137456
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #137457 in grub (main) "Ubuntu 7.10 tribe5 install LILO insteed of GRUB" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137457
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #137458 in nautilus (main) "Inconsistency with Nautilus drag&drop and ACL" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137458
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137460 in evolution (main) "evolution des not save changes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137460
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #137461 in ltsp (main) "xdmcp does not work due to syntax error in shell script" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137461
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #137462 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "[gutsy]  HW multimedia keys for volume control on HP dv9000 alter microphone instead of speaker" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137462
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #137463 in ubuntu "wrong grub-menu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137463
[11:14] <dholbach> http://daniel.holba.ch/bugs is back up again
[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #137464 in notecase (universe) "NoteCase: "Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_model_get_iter: assertion `path->depth > 0' failed"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137464
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #137468 in ubuntu "HP 2510p: Unable to resume from standby" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137468
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #137469 in ubuntu "OpenOffice.org menu fonts are bigger (bolder) than other applications" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137469
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #137470 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "spurious completions during NCQ Hitachi HTS722016K9A300" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137470
[11:37] <ubotu> New bug: #137465 in xorg (main) "control alt backspace reboots pc sometimes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137465
[11:37] <ubotu> New bug: #137466 in notecase (universe) "NoteCase [Gutsy] : keyboard shortcuts do not work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137466
[11:37] <ubotu> New bug: #137467 in update-manager (main) "crash in a update-manager" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137467
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #137471 in crack-attack (universe) "Crack attack crashes my session" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137471
[12:02] <heno> dholbach: that looks nice, with the bughelper commands on the right
[12:07] <dholbach> heno: thank thekorn :-)
[12:07] <heno> (even though he's not here)
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #137472 in stunnel4 (universe) "stunnel4 init.d script reports  startup failures with pid=error message even when not so" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137472
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #137473 in mutt (main) "mutt fails to log in to IMAP server using TLS" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137473
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #137474 in ubuntu "VIA HD Audio Codec VT8237A - no sound" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137474
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #137475 in php5 (main) "imap_utf8 function incorrectly convert with gbk encode" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137475
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #137476 in conky (universe) "conky (1.4.7-0ubuntu1) do not support rss and wireless variables" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137476
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #137477 in acpi-support (main) "[gutsy]  [regression]  suspend-to-ram: resume is blocked on a blinking cursor until some random keystrokes are entered on the keyboard" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137477
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137479 in metacity (main) "window manager (metacity) does not remember the unmaximized window size" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137479
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #137481 in kdepim (main) "[Gutsy Tribe 5]  Kontact doesn't save custom toolbar/setting" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137481
[01:01] <Le-Chuck_ITA> hi all
[01:02] <Le-Chuck_ITA> did it ever happen to you that logging out and then back in to gnome made everything look damaged and this was because bonobo-activation was still there from previous session?
[01:02] <Le-Chuck_ITA> if so, please triage, raise priority, whatever :) , of bug #114428
[01:02] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114428 in bonobo-activation "bonobo-activation-server does not terminate when user logs out" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114428
[01:03] <Le-Chuck_ITA> this has been damaging gnome image for ages
[01:03] <Le-Chuck_ITA> this has been there since the first time I remember having tried gnome 2
[01:03] <Le-Chuck_ITA> but it's rare
[01:03] <Le-Chuck_ITA> so nobody cared until now it seems (?)
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #137482 in otrs (universe) "[gutsy]  please remove otrs from the archive" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137482
[01:19] <Le-Chuck_ITA> people
[01:19] <Le-Chuck_ITA> why in bug #49594
[01:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 49594 in gnome-session "Bonobo-activation-server sometimes is not killed after session restart, leading to many unexpected problems" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/49594
[01:19] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I can read
[01:19] <Le-Chuck_ITA> "not in ubuntu"???
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #137483 in gaim (main) ""Send multiple" is needed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137483
[01:28] <eevar2> any known issues with setting up lvm on a raid array using the 7.04 server install?
[01:30] <eevar2> getting a blank screen (blue installer background layout) when i try to create a logical volume
[01:41] <ubotu> New bug: #137484 in ubuntu "Adept Updater had crashed during Regular update " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137484
[01:41] <ubotu> New bug: #137485 in ubuntu "Adept Updater had crashed during Regular update " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137485
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #137486 in yelp (main) "Yelp search algorithm needs to improve." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137486
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #137490 in ubuntu "Sound lost after installing updates" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137490
[02:18] <dholbach> heno: I'll move http://daniel.holba.ch/sponsoring/ and http://daniel.holba.ch/bugs/ to people.u.c once we have it working with python2.4
[02:18] <dholbach> at some stage I'd like to have http://todo.ubuntu.com where all the lists and everything that's generated every now and then is up with documentation of it
[02:19] <dholbach> heno: jono you and I should discuss that probably at some stage for hardy
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #137491 in epiphany-browser (main) "epiphany does not have launchpad customizations by default" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137491
[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #137492 in ubuntu "Not obvious session is "live" from CD" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137492
[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #137493 in kubuntu-meta (main) "personal background pictures causes system lockup" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137493
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #137494 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  gnome-video-arcade" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137494
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #137495 in compiz (main) "[Gutsy]  Desktop effects starts with incorrect titlebar size at 1680x1050" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137495
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #137496 in ubuntu "impossible de se connecter au serveur" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137496
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #137497 in gnome-panel (main) "when deleting the logo for internet-connection in the upper-panel, you can't set it back to the panel." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137497
[02:57] <ubotu> New bug: #137501 in partman-efi (main) "Fails to set boot flag on fat16 efi partition on ia64" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137501
[02:57] <ubotu> New bug: #137502 in ubuntu "Sound error on Asus A8V-VM motherboards" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137502
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #134074 in debian-installer (main) "Text based install writes files +GMT offset" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134074
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #137503 in eog (main) "EOG crashes when saving a BMP image as PNG image" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137503
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #99474 in ubuntu "Outdated "Software Properties" in Desktop Guide" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/99474
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #137505 in ubuntu "gusty don't free memory used for a certain app after application termination" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137505
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #137510 in console-tools (main) "better console setup" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137510
[03:31] <ubotu> New bug: #137511 in fai (universe) "make-fai-nfsroot failes to create initramfs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137511
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #137512 in ubuntu "7.04 Live CD installs, alternate and server fail" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137512
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #137513 in torbutton (main) "torbutton was auto-synced and has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137513
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137514 in sshfs-fuse (universe) "sshfs locks up randomly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137514
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137515 in ubuntu "[gutsy]  I upgrade from Test Tribe 4 to Test Tribe 5 and my monitor get in stand-by" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137515
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137516 in pulseaudio (main) "pulseaudio not detecting usb headset" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137516
[03:49] <bddebian> Boo
[03:50] <pedro_> Buu
[03:50] <bddebian> :-)
[03:50] <ScottK> Beep
[03:50] <bddebian> Heya ScottK
[03:50] <ScottK> Heya.
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #137517 in displayconfig-gtk (universe) "[Gutsy]  displayconfig-gtk configures my 22" 1680x1050 LCD panel wrong." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137517
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #137519 in sshfs-fuse (universe) "sshfs: please update to latest version (1.6 -> 1.8)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137519
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #137520 in ubuntu "language-support-bo" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137520
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #137522 in ubuntu "[Gutsy]  Incorrent refresh rates with nvidia driver by default (Twinview issue)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137522
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #137524 in geany (universe) "geany: problem with numeric pad" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137524
[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #137525 in jspwiki (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  jspwiki: tomcat5 not available" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137525
[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #137526 in apache (universe) "In Apache2 template site use <Virtualhost  *:80> rather than <Virtualhost  *>" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137526
[04:13] <thekorn> dholbach: you told me yesterday that you get errors running bughelper-server, can you paste me a Traceback or something
[04:14] <dholbach> thekorn: sure
[04:16] <kagou> hi
[04:16] <ubotu> New bug: #137527 in ubuntu "[Gutsy]  Unable to play encrypted DVD-s" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137527
[04:16] <dholbach> hey kagou
[04:16] <kagou> hey dholbach  :)
[04:16] <dholbach> thekorn: http://daniel.holba,ch/temp/bughelper-server.log
[04:17] <dholbach> thekorn: also:
[04:17] <dholbach> heno dholbach: that looks nice, with the bughelper commands on the right
[04:17] <dholbach> dholbach heno: thank thekorn :-)
[04:17] <dholbach> * heno hugs thekorn
[04:17] <dholbach> heno (even though he's not here)
[04:18] <dholbach> sorry, that should be http://daniel.holba.ch/temp/bughelper-server.log
[04:18] <dholbach> thekorn: and thanks for your fixes
[04:19] <thekorn> dholbach: yuhu, thanks for uploading the changes
[04:20] <davmor2> :)  WOW I thought it was bad when you talked to yourself but typing to yourself :P
[04:21] <dholbach> davmor2: I was quoting
[04:25] <thekorn> dholbach: I just had a quick look at the log, looks not that bad so far,
[04:25] <dholbach> yeah, it looks good
[04:26] <thekorn> one problem still exist: libxml2 does not like strings like "StacktraceTop: () from /"
[04:26] <dholbach> what kind of characters are those? can we use one of libxml2 encoding functions on them?
[04:26] <thekorn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/128162
[04:26] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 128162 in rhythmbox "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Unknown,Confirmed]
[04:27] <thekorn> libxml2 stops parsing this bugreport on right after this chars,
[04:28] <dholbach> damnit :-/
[04:28] <thekorn> and this is why py-lp-bugs does not find any files attached to this bugreport
[04:28] <dholbach> hum, maybe the guys on #xml on irc.gnome.org know
[04:29] <thekorn> my problem is the bad documentation of  libxml2
[04:29] <thekorn> ok, will ask there
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #137528 in hello (main) "testbug" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137528
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #137529 in ubuntu "gutsy kmail paste" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137529
[04:36] <thekorn> dholbach: I will open two bugreports based on your log-file later,
[04:37] <dholbach> thekorn: I'll keep it there
[04:37] <thekorn> thanks
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #137530 in apport (main) "apport-qt crashed with signal 7" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137530
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #137531 in libmtp (main) "[needs upload]  libmtp-0.2.1-2 manual merge from debian" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137531
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137532 in apt-listchanges (main) "Translations upload: fix package to include apt-listchanges.pot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137532
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137533 in evolution (main) "Html sign /email not well supported" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137533
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #137536 in ubuntu "Azureus commit problems" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137536
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #137538 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "[gutsy]  notebook instantly powered off while loading ubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137538
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #137541 in displayconfig-gtk (universe) "can't change resolution of CRT monitor" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137541
[05:27] <AtomBubble> Hello.
[05:28] <AtomBubble> Anyone there?
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #137543 in desktop-effects (main) "Enable radeon power management (DynamicClocks)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137543
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #137544 in system-config-printer (main) "When printer browsing is enabled, a reverse lookup on IP addresses should be done in printers listing " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137544
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #137545 in strigiapplet (main) "WISHLIST: better Strigi Applet left-click behavior" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137545
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #137546 in app-install-data-commercial (main) "[Gutsy]  traceback while updating to 8.2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137546
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #137547 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice Calc 2.2.0: Miscalculation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137547
[05:44] <AtomBubble> Hello.
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137549 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "broadcom wifi drivers" [Wishlist,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137549
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #137553 in krb5 (main) "Please sync krb5 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137553
[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #137555 in strigi (main) "strigidaemon crashed with SIGSEGV in Strigi::AnalyzerConfiguration::indexType()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137555
[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #137556 in java-package (multiverse) "[UVFe]  please sync java-package (0.34) from Debian unstable (contrib)" [Wishlist,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137556
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #137558 in tracker (main) "0.6.2 i386 does not compile" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137558
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137559 in hal (main) "[gutsy]  failed to initialize hal" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137559
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #137562 in gnome-schedule (universe) "please update gnome-schedule to 1.1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137562
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #137560 in wine (universe) "Wine secure by default" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137560
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #137564 in evolution (main) "evolution crashes when opening preferences" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137564
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #135334 in ubuntu "Torrent" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135334
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #137566 in wine (universe) "[sync request]  Please sync wine from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137566
[07:26] <ubotu> New bug: #137565 in ubuntu "iwl4965 unstable on Dell XPS M1330" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137565
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #137567 in apport (main) "stale lock prevents apport runs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137567
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #137569 in totem (main) "(Gusty Tribe 5) Totem-xine crashes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137569
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137570 in totem (main) "[Gusty]  Totem doesn't load subtitles" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137570
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #137571 in network-manager (main) "Network-manager doesn't connect to open wireless networks" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137571
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #137572 in totem (main) "(Gusty) Totem doesn't load subtitles" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137572
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #137573 in poker-network (universe) "poker2d crash (SIGSEGV) at startup" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137573
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #137575 in compiz (main) "gutsy: windows don't raise properly (+compiz, raise_on_click off)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137575
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #137578 in gq (universe) "no longer possible to store hashed password" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137578
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #137580 in cupsys (main) "[Gusty]  Wrong default driver for Brother HL - 2030" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137580
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #137582 in compiz-fusion-plugins-main (main) "Rotate Cube Right keyboard binding disappeared" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137582
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #137584 in hal (main) "scanner not start epson " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137584
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #137585 in ubuntu "LSI Logic MPT driver mapping of scsi device busy to scsi host+device busy leads to read-only ext3 fs remounts on VMware ESX Server." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137585
[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #137586 in cupsys (main) "(Gusty) CUPS: imposible to cancel or hold printer jobs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137586
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #137588 in cupsys (main) "(Gusty) Printing from live cd fails" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137588
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #137589 in ri-li (universe) "Please sync ri-li (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137589
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #137592 in ubuntu "Ubuntu installer forward button is enabled, should be disabled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137592
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #137593 in freetype1 (main) "(Gusty) wrong default font rendering for LCDs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137593
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #137590 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Keyboard/trackpad activity on MacBook causes extremely high number of CPU wakeups" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137590
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #137591 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Xen 2.6.22-10-xen DomU crashes at boot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137591
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #137594 in ubuntu-meta (main) "Remove mouseemu from Ubuntu default install" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137594
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #137595 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Networking doesn't Work under Xen 2.6.22-10-xen without ethtool -K eth0 tx off command" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137595
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #137596 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "-xen kernel does not support cpufreq" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137596
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #133744 in restricted-manager (restricted) "restricted-manager crashed with IOError in save_cache_list()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133744
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #137598 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Screen brightness resets to default (maximum) on idle with AC plugged in" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137598
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #137599 in virtualbox (universe) "Error on starting virtual machine: VirtualBox kernel driver not installed." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137599
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #132647 in restricted-manager (restricted) "restricted-manager crashed with AttributeError in __getattr__()" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132647
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #137600 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Bluetooth can't be stopped by powertop" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137600
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #137601 in fontconfig (main) ""Times" should map to "Times New Roman", etc,  if installed..." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137601
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #137603 in compiz (main) "Enable cube effect by default" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137603
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #137602 in powertop (universe) "powertop suggests "increase the VM dirty writeback time from 5.00 to 15 seconds" repeatedly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137602
[09:57] <ubotu> New bug: #137604 in xorg (main) "Black Bar Across Screen with latest Xorg Update" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137604
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #137606 in nautilus (main) "nautilus in lookup mode has no icon view" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137606
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #137607 in sane-frontends (universe) "Gimp fails to start when sane is installed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137607
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #137608 in ubuntu "gcc is broken in Gutsy Tribe5 directly after installation+upgrade" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137608
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #137609 in hugin (universe) "External URLs in help interface are not loaded in default browser" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137609
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #137610 in hugin (universe) "Cannot load help contents after clicking external URL" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137610
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #137611 in ubuntu "Package request for bluemote" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137611
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #137612 in gdm (main) "Users and group list and also network device list disappear when "Enable Automatic Login" is selected." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137612
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #137613 in gedit (main) "AttributeError: Document instance has no attribute 'timeout_update_id'" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137613
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #137614 in cupsys (main) "Cannot load ooimpress and Qtiplot if network is off - related to cups, problem/solution found in client.conf" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137614
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #137615 in strigi (main) "strigi applet bug when kicker is at top of screen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137615
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #137617 in app-install-data-commercial (main) "The repository does not exist" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137617
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #137619 in ubuntu "[gutsy tribe 5]  Fails to handle systems with too many IDE interfaces" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137619
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #137620 in hal (main) "the hardware information couldn't find it" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137620
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #137622 in ubuntu "Low sound output and poor quality" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137622
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #137624 in ubuntu "fsck required on boot for raids-1 hangs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137624
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #137625 in gedit (main) "gedit crashes on a simple text file of 6000 lines" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137625
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #137628 in abiword (main) "mailmerge direct to printer is undocumented" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137628
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #137629 in ubuntu "unable to set resolution to 1280x1024 on lenovo n3000 n100 running 7.04" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137629


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[04:22] <tsimonq2> ugh really?
[06:51] <tjaalton> what's the problem with ppa builders? I've uploaded a package days ago and it still says "start in 1 hour"
[06:51] <wxl> tjaalton: /topic #lanchpad
[06:51] <wxl> ugh you get the idea
[06:52] <tjaalton> aha
[06:52] <tjaalton> nice
[06:52] <wxl> yeah..
[06:52] <dax> the /topic for here says the same thing, fwiw
[06:52] <dax> my guess based on nothing whatsoever would be meltdown/spectre
[06:53] <wxl> i think that's a safe guess
[06:53] <wxl> kernels coming soon
[06:59] <wgrant> Indeed, Spectre is the problem.