[06:38] <maco> SmithX: there's a gui for gnome you can install, i guess... but no, fluxbox doesnt have much config utils other than the ones for configuring fluxbox itself
[06:39] <error404notfound> i have to backup some directories, and only root has access to them, i have chosen duplicity as a tool for backup, however ssh for root is disabled, so i need another uid 0 account just for the backup's purposes. or should i create a new user with group as root?
[06:39] <Voltaire> maco: good question, pretty sure, I'm running doliphin in a gnome environment, but I don't think that would matter any
[06:39] <maco> Voltaire: are you using kubuntu or are you using dolphin in ubuntu?
[06:39] <Stumpie> VLC might have a way to record the screen via VNC
[06:39] <maco> Voltaire: ok then its either metacity or compiz. is it composited?
[06:39] <maco> Voltaire: this sounds like youve found another piece of that annoying compiz bug
[06:39] <SmithX> maco: there's a gnome package or something I can get for changing the res that'll work in fluxbox??
[06:40] <Voltaire> maco: haha oh joy
[06:40] <maco> SmithX: sure. all it does is call xrandr like you just did :P
[06:40] <raul_> ño
[06:40] <SmithX> maco: what's the name of it?
[06:40] <maco> SmithX: oh wow there are a ton of them. run "apt-cache search xrandr" in a terminal and pick your fave
[06:40] <tohsh> Anyone know where the default configuration file location is for transmission? cant seem to find it
[06:40] <Voltaire> maco: thanks for the tibit, I think I know how to fix it
[06:40] <SmithX> maco: thanks
[06:41] <maco> SmithX: ubuntu default is gnome-randr-applet
[06:41] <maco> Voltaire: nkwith ff, youd hit f11 twice, i thi
[06:41] <pcfreak30> bazhang, uh. tried most. hear good hings bout rmd, never knew ffmpeg could. but still want to know whats with my recoding.
[06:41] <SmithX> speaking of which, is it possible for apt-get or something to give me a description of a package before I decide to install it?
[06:41] <maco> Voltaire: with ff youd hit f11 twice i think*
[06:41] <maco> SmithX: apt-cache show <package>
[06:42] <SmithX> maco: thanks again! you're the man!
[06:42] <Voltaire> maco: or that would work, beats what I was thinking about doing, now to get my vnc to like me enough to let me do that
[06:42] <maco> pcfreak30: with specific settings istanbul can work without crashing. i forget the only known workng combination
[06:42] <maco> SmithX: woman, actually ;)
[06:43] <pcfreak30> maco, uh, it never crashes, it just outputs bad video. please look for yoyr self.
[06:43] <pcfreak30> http://rapidshare.com/files/266808388/out.ogg.html
[06:43] <Berzerker> how do I reset all of my panels?
[06:43] <bazhang> !panels
[06:43] <Berzerker> well thanks lol
[06:43] <SmithX> maco: man as in human is neutered!
[06:44] <pcfreak30> at 40% quality, 30 fps
[06:44] <maco> pcfreak30: oh maybe it was gtkrecordmydesktop that crashes then.  one of them crashes during video save, the other creates un-play-able videos. i just know istanbul "works" with certain settings
[06:44] <qhoxie> does anyone know of a centralized file sharing implementation that stores the files on the server?  like (s)ftp but with search, etc
[06:44] <Berzerker> bazhang, most excellent. thank you kindly.
[06:44] <maco> pcfreak30: i believe turning off istanbul's audio settings is one of the things that makes it work better
[06:44] <bazhang> Berzerker, you're welcome
[06:45] <Wiseman> so I'm installing XP in virtualbox....hoping for the best
[06:45] <Berzerker> now is there any way to move the battery indicator all the way to the right? to keep the system icons separate from the program icons?
[06:45] <cfedde> Wiseman: works well enough for me.
[06:45] <pcfreak30> macro, i might try it, i installed it, but i like rmd, its just somethings up with the encoding/capture. its horrible.
[06:45] <Berzerker> and the network icon
[06:45] <Wiseman> used to dual-boot, don't want to do that anymore
[06:45] <maco> Berzerker: program icons? programs shouldnt be in the notification area...
[06:45] <Berzerker> like pidgin and xchat
[06:45] <vince> maco : IPv6 is great.  The fact my ISP sucks is the problem
[06:46] <Berzerker> the tray icons
[06:46] <maco> Berzerker: also, i think the battery is its own applet, not part of the notification area
[06:46] <SmithX> maco: know why xrandr isn't showing 16:9 widescreen resolutions for my widescreen monitor?
[06:46] <duckwars> how can i use sudo permissions in the gui finder?
[06:46] <duckwars> gknautilus?
[06:46] <Berzerker> it's in the notification area, it moves with the area
[06:46] <maco> SmithX: likely your monitor isnt informing X that it can do them
[06:46] <bazhang> duckwars, why do you need to
[06:46] <SmithX> maco: so a driver problem? I know I can do it in windows xp
[06:46] <maco> SmithX: xrandr manpage has a way to add a mode
[06:46] <Voltaire> maco: Thanks got it, the f11 trick didn't work, i just switched to metacity.
[06:46] <error404notfound> bump!
[06:47] <orifice> hmm it looks like X is crashing when starting in non-failsafe mode.  I've diffed the X logs in failsafe and in normal modes and I only get the stacktrace as the diff.
[06:47] <bazhang> !gksudo > duckwars
[06:47] <orifice> Something else must be cause X to crash.
[06:47] <maco> SmithX: not the driver, but what the monitor lists as possible. windows is more inclined to list modes the monitor doesnt explicitly say it supports (which is why it reverts after 10 seconds automatically...in case it really doesnt support it)
[06:47] <bazhang> duckwars, be very careful using that
[06:47] <duckwars> bazhang: I'm trying to copy from one USB hard drive to another and I don't have the permissions to write to the spot I want to write to.  I need gui so I can see progress
[06:47] <duckwars> thanks
[06:47] <maco> Voltaire: ok well glad something worked for you
[06:47] <pcfreak30> maco,  dam istanbul works better. its could use tweaking boyt is good. dont know ehat rmd prob is.
[06:48] <SmithX> maco: you're an incredible source of wisdom--thanks
[06:48] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 8.04.3, nm-applet 0.6.6] Last night I used my laptop in a local computer club. Today: '~$  ip addr; 2: inet <IP_ADDRESS>/24.' /etc/resolv.conf includes an entry 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>'. Still Firefox can't find the server at e. g. projects.gnome.org. How to continue bug-squatting?
[06:48] <duckwars> wait, this gksudo won't work. I want to use the gui finder and drag and drop from one folder to another
[06:49] <maco> Berzerker: ohhh....ok see gnome calls that the notification area and any app that just lives in there instead of staying in the window list is in violation of the GNOME HIG ...ie "doin it wrong"...theyre only ever *supposed* to show up to tell you something and then go away when theyre done telling you that thing (such as "hey! you got a PM!" then disappear when you look at the PM)
[06:50] <Berzerker> I'm using the ubuntu netbook remix, btw, so I don't have a "window list" :P
[06:50] <Berzerker> well I kinda do
[06:50] <Schmitty> has anyone here used lxde?
[06:50] <maco> Berzerker: that long area at the top that lists what apps youre using :P
[06:50] <gartral> maco: you mean libnotify, yes? the notification area is wheree iconified apps live (Pidgin, the Ubuntu One Client) or am i wrong?
[06:50] <Berzerker> wouldn't that be at the bottom in gnome?
[06:50] <Berzerker> top in kde
[06:51] <maco> gartral: wrong. apps are NOT supposed to iconify in gnome. period.
[06:51] <maco> Berzerker: in UNR its all at the top, i thought
[06:51] <Berzerker> yeah
[06:51] <Berzerker> but it's not long. :P so that's why I got confused
[06:51] <maco> Berzerker: kde puts everything at the bottom. normal gnome puts notification at top and window list at bottom
[06:51] <c4pt> where can i get a pvops ubuntu kernel from in a .deb package?
[06:51] <Schmitty> who here likes lxde?
[06:51] <Berzerker> ah.
[06:51] <error404notfound> Schmitty, i do :D
[06:52] <Schmitty> k
[06:52] <c4pt> like this kernel or higher for pvops? 2.6.30-rc3-tip
[06:52] <Schmitty> im going to install it then
[06:52] <gartral> maco: then what are we supposed to do with pidgin, UOC, and wine apps? let them perma clutter our lower panels?
[06:52] <maco> gartral: http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/desktop-notification-area.html.en
[06:52] <maco> gartral: yes
[06:52] <c4pt> where can i get a pvops ubuntu kernel from in a .deb package?
[06:52] <error404notfound> Schmitty, its light like XFCE and good looking, PCMAN is a great file manager
[06:52] <maco> gartral: or use workspaces as a third level divider for your windows. thats why they were invented
[06:53] <gartral> maco: even though when there in the lower panel they take up MORE ram than being iconified? what are those of us with 512 mb systems too ddo/
[06:53] <maco> gartral: the idea of putting a bunch of little icons so tiny theyre hard to differentiate and hit properly in one place is one of those bad things carried over from windows
[06:54] <maco> gartral: huh? how does the memory use change? are you suggesting # of pixels required to be colored in makes a difference?
[06:54]  * gartral runs a panel display at 1280x1024 and has no problem telling green pidgin icon from orange UOC
[06:54] <maco> gartral: what is UOC?
[06:54] <gartral> maco: no, but i notice a deffinate drop in memory usage when a program is iconified, versus when its minimized
[06:55] <maco> gartral: "The utility of the notification area decreases rapidly when more than about four icons are always present. For this reason, icons that appear only temporarily in response to events are preferable."
[06:55] <Zuzenak> does anyone know how to make a usb wireless mouse work with 8.10?
[06:55] <eross> i have AWN and screenlets running, I accidentally added a panel but the delete panel option is grayed out. How do i get rid of it? This looks like the original panel when I first installed jaunty, with the applications, folders, etc.
[06:55] <gartral> maco: Ubuntu One Client, i acronymized it like 5 lines back >.>
[06:55] <maco> gartral: i didnt know what you were acronymizing though :P
[06:55] <Berzerker> I like having a clean running app area. :P
[06:55] <maco> Berzerker: does UNR have workspaces?
[06:55] <Berzerker> now if only I could get thunderbird to iconify
[06:55] <Berzerker> no idea.
[06:55] <Berzerker> :D
[06:56] <maco> i never minimize OR iconify *shrug*
[06:56] <c4pt> where can i get a pvops ubuntu kernel from in a .deb package?
[06:56] <maco> i just have 9 workspaces
[06:56] <tbryant> My "NowPlaying" Screenlet doesn't work with Rhythmbox (or many other music players), can anyone help?
[06:56] <Berzerker> yeah I used spaces when I used OS X. it's handy.
[06:56] <fluurp> "just"
[06:56] <gartral> maco: considering that the UOC has no resident window, and the only way you know its running is the iconified proccess.. that self-defeats your statement
[06:56] <maco> Berzerker: we had 'em first :P
[06:56] <Berzerker> it's kinda awkward using it in linux though, no idea why. :P.....oh I know lol
[06:56] <Zuzenak> is pici around?
[06:56] <Berzerker> does anyone use alltray?
[06:57] <maco> gartral: that was a quote from the GNOME HIG.  the UOC was apparently developed without regard for GNOME...just like cross-platform apps like Pidgin & XChat.  Pidgin, however, is set to default to only showing an icon when you can get IM
[06:57] <Berzerker> tried to install that but it says I need gtk2.0 or something
[06:57] <eross> that's what I'm trying to do, i want to add more workspaces, how do I do that?
[06:57] <fluurp> on kubuntu i used it
[06:57] <turutosiya> hi
[06:57] <maco> Zuzenak: i think /whois would tell you that
[06:57] <turutosiya> how do i install ubuntu one into jaunty?
[06:57] <gartral> maco: ive never experienced that behavior
[06:57] <maco> gartral: is it a profile carried forward from before jaunty?
[06:58] <maco> gartral: new users in jaunty have that setting
[06:58] <Zuzenak>  because this is JimmyDee on zeus' account and I am trying to fix his problem
[06:58] <maco> eross: you need that panel to add more workspaces i think.
[06:58] <eross> sudo kill to get rid of gnome-panel worked
[06:58] <maco> eross: is the workspace switcher on the panel right now?
[06:58] <gartral> maco: nope, fresh install, and ive allaways seen the little green icon an it's allways turned too a yellow smiley face on message recived, and i used both the Ubuntu repos and the pidgin PPA
[06:58] <Berzerker> so what does ubuntu one do exactly?
[06:58] <maco> eross: er...ok then
[06:58] <eross> i can get it back
[06:59] <eross> where is it at maco?
[06:59] <maco> Berzerker: you put stuff in ~/Ubuntu\ One/ and then it gets uploaded to your storage space and then if you have another machine setup for it, you can pull it down there. its like large file transfer for people who dont have anywhere to ftp their stuff
[06:59]  * gartral thinks there is no problem with iconified proccesses
[06:59] <maco> Berzerker: IMO, it's NFS with a GUI
[06:59] <Berzerker> so...it's like iDisk
[07:00] <maco> eross: right click -> add to panel
[07:00] <maco> eross: add the workspace switcher
[07:00] <Zuzenak> ok how to upgrade ibex to jaunty?
[07:00] <maco> eross: then right click the workspace switcher and go to its properties. change the # of workspaces in there
[07:00] <gartral> maco: except that permissions arent stored with NFS and are with Ubuntu One
[07:00] <maco> eross: er...wait a second.... are you using compiz or metacity?
[07:00] <eross> compiz
[07:00] <prince_jammys> !upgrade > Zuzenak
[07:00] <Berzerker> maco, what's the default key to switch workspaces
[07:01] <maco> eross: oh. then you can set it in compiz instead. do you have the really ugly compiz configuration thing?
[07:01] <maco> eross: the one that's confusing, not the simple one?
[07:01] <maco> Berzerker: ctrl alt + left/right
[07:01] <gartral> Berzerker: ctrl+alt+left/right/up/down
[07:01] <Berzerker> maco, this concludes our test of the emergency broadcast system. yes UNR does in fact have workspaces. :D
[07:02] <eross> no it just gives me 3 options, basic, nice, or extreme.. something like that
[07:02] <Zuzenak> could someone tell me how to dist upgrade?
[07:02] <gartral> gives Berzerker a tracker cookie
[07:02] <prince_jammys> !upgrade > Zuzenak
[07:02] <Berzerker> wewt.
[07:02] <maco> eross: ok install compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:02]  * gartral watches Berzerker through the cookie
[07:02] <Berzerker> Zuzenak, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:02]  * Berzerker eats it.
[07:03]  * fluurp is yellous
[07:03]  * gartral watches Berzerker guts... "Mmmm... Gutsy"
[07:03] <maco> eross: and umm *thinking* itll go into system -> preferences -> advanced effects?
[07:03]  * Berzerker downgrades to 7.10
[07:03] <redbrain> hey what kind of permissions would make a user unable to cd out of there home dir and just give them access denied
[07:04] <prince_jammys> cd to where?
[07:04] <maco> eross: then in there there's a general section...um go to the first section of settings at the top....then in one of the tabs it gives you, there'll be a question about "horizontal virtual size" ... set that to the # of workspaces you want
[07:04] <prince_jammys> redbrain: missing the executable bit on a dir
[07:04] <maco> redbrain: if you want to restrict them to their own home, look at setting their default shell to rbash (restricted bourne again shell)
[07:05] <maco> redbrain: i believe thats one of its features
[07:05] <Zuzenak> thank you priest
[07:05] <redbrain> yeah i have put any extra users into a jail kit chroot
[07:05] <redbrain> but just wondering does it make sense to use rbash in there
[07:05] <prince_jammys> ah, i thought the inability to cd was a problem, but it's what he wants
[07:06] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 8.04.3, nm-applet 0.6.6] Last night I used my laptop in a local computer club. Today: '~$  ip addr; 2: inet <IP_ADDRESS>/24.' /etc/resolv.conf includes an entry 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>'. Still Firefox can't find the server at e. g. projects.gnome.org. How to continue bug-squatting?
[07:06] <Berzerker> if you're a user on a multiple user computer, then yes, that is what someone would want.
[07:06] <oguncak> hello my friends. what can i do to add a right-click menu entry "open as root" for a folder? for example, when i want to enter the /bin and make changes, it does not let me. i want to right click and select "open as root" and do my work.!!
[07:06] <Berzerker> oguncak, use terminal
[07:07] <kindofabuzz> oguncak, open up synaptic and search for nautilus, you will see several scripts you can install, open as root is one of them
[07:07] <kindofabuzz> oguncak, or sudo nautilus
[07:07] <Berzerker> is there a fix for the "open containing folder" option in the firefox downloads window?
[07:07] <Berzerker> asks me what program to open it with and lists non.
[07:07] <oguncak> ok thanks, i'll check out.
[07:07] <Berzerker> none*
[07:08] <tuxwulf> Is there an applet which shows harddisk activity in the panel, or some such desktop place?
[07:08] <eross> that's it, thanks
[07:09] <collimic> ok so here is a question I cannot seam to find an answer to. When I log into ubuntu server 8.10 it gives me a short bit of system information. what is the command to make that redisplay if I ever need to look at it.
[07:10] <prince_jammys> cat /etc/motd
[07:10] <pog> hello, I have a problem with a printer, after changing the ink, the printer-functions (like copy) work, but a print from a ubuntu always say "ink low". where the status of the ink is stored? How can I reset it?.
[07:10] <kust0m> here's a related motd question.. what rebuilds the motd to show the available package updates, etc?
[07:10] <collimic> the information it give si system load, Swap usage, users logged in, usage of /, Temperature, Memory usage and processes.
[07:11] <bazhang> kindofabuzz, gksudo for graphical apps, and warn of the dangers of using with nautilus
[07:11] <shah16> collimic: dmesg ??
[07:11] <bazhang> tuxwulf, conky?
[07:11] <prince_jammys> collimic: ah, that must be a new thing
[07:11] <pietro> hey
[07:11] <prince_jammys> new-ish, since my release is old
[07:11] <kust0m> collimic: if you just want to see what was shown at login "cat /etc/motd" seems to work for me on a 9.04 system
[07:11] <collimic> if I look in the motd file it is there. how can i recreate it?
[07:11] <AlexanderAzimov> Good night all!
[07:11] <tuxwulf> bazhang: .. thanks, I'll look!
[07:11] <pietro> hey guys
[07:12] <bazhang> tuxwulf, great thread on the forums on how to set up from scratch
[07:12] <collimic> cat .etc.motd is the information that is showed. is there a way to get updated info?
[07:12] <pietro> i don`t know where i am
[07:12] <shah16> collimic : try dmesg
[07:12] <kust0m> shah16: right, but what actually causes the file to be rebuild/regenerated?
[07:12] <prince_jammys> heh, he'll be bombarded with info
[07:12] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5436679 tuxwulf
[07:13] <bazhang> pietro, ubuntu support channel
[07:13] <joejc> is it possible to make a icon for a folder like desktop?
[07:13] <pietro> ok thank you bazhang
[07:13] <pietro> is like a live forum
[07:13] <Berzerker> who uses xchat here?
[07:14] <joejc> i might
[07:14] <shah16> kust0m: collimic asked in his question " what is the command to make that redisplay if I ever need to look at it"
[07:14] <bazhang> pietro, yes support forum for Ubuntu OS, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:14] <orifice> so I've narrowed the problem down to gnome-settings-daemon
[07:14] <oguncak> when i click to open an mp3 file, it uses directly totem player. how can i assign rhythmbox as the default player for music files?
[07:14] <joejc> version me if u want, im on a freinds comp and everything is odd
[07:14] <eepberries> Why would my non-administrative user account not be able to find my connected scanner? It works fine with my main acount, but when I use a non-admin account, SANE can't find my scanner
[07:14] <pietro> ok perfect
[07:14] <Berzerker> irssi
[07:14] <pietro> thank you again
[07:15] <joejc> it has a gui
[07:15] <bazhang> oguncak, right click properties?
[07:15] <kindofabuzz> oguncak, right click it and choose properties and you will see
[07:15] <kust0m> collimic: try running "update-motd"
[07:15] <joejc> when did irssi get a gui?
[07:15] <pietro> maybe i come back if i ll need it
[07:15] <pietro> bye
[07:15] <Berzerker> no idea?
[07:15] <Berzerker> says you're on irssi
[07:15] <kust0m> irssi has a gui?
[07:15] <bazhang> no of course not
[07:15] <lstarnes> I think there were plans for irssi to have a gui
[07:16] <collimic> Just an FYI do not make a typo in the fstab it is not easy too fix after you reboot. lol
[07:16] <joejc> is it possible to make a icon for a folder like desktop?
[07:16] <kust0m> collimic: i tend to check that with "mount -a" after i make changes. might be a better way, not sure.
[07:16] <collimic> It is. I just forgot to run it . lol
[07:18] <oguncak> thanks, it worked. and another help; for the music folders, how can i assign a right-click entry as "open with rhythmbox"? (however, that mentioned a little bit windows, sorry.. but it is useful!!)
[07:19] <SmithX> maco: I added a new modeline and got the resolution I wanted
[07:19] <bazhang> oguncak, check preferred applications, and assign there if you wish
[07:19] <SmithX> however, I have one minor problem--my desktop image didn't scale accordingly (or rather it scaled too much and now it's too big for my resolution)
[07:19] <nman> Hi does anyone know if there's a way to make my server act as a usb slave drive?  e.g. if I have a media player that can connect a usb drive, can I make it connect and play files off my server?
[07:20] <Jeruvy> oguncak: http://www.foogazi.com/2007/11/05/adding-shortcuts-to-the-right-click-menu-in-ubuntu/
[07:20] <kust0m> nman: i'm betting that would take some hardcore hardware hacking (say that 3 times fast..)
[07:20] <bazhang> nman, a media server? such as mediatomb?
[07:20] <bazhang> !info mediatomb
[07:21] <leaf-sheep> nman: Maybe you want !sshfs
[07:21] <kust0m> 96k? wow.
[07:21] <maco> SmithX: i have no idea about that one. sorry
[07:21] <SmithX> maco: that's alright--you gave me a ton of help tonight
[07:21] <leaf-sheep> !sshfs | nman
[07:25] <SmithX> is it possible to read historical messages from this channel? such as during the time I was disconnected?
[07:25] <bazhang> !1984 > SmithX
[07:25] <nman> I'd like to know too, I got disconnected
[07:25] <bazhang> nman, /msg ubottu logs
[07:26] <greyz`> Yes, you can do that, but first you must obtain the orb of Kackalash.  Good luck with THAT.
[07:26] <losher> !1984
[07:27] <qhoxie> does anyone know of a file sharing system that stores the files on a central server? like samba or ftp with search, etc
[07:29] <losher> qhoxie: do you mean nfs ? That's a common way to server files on linux...
[07:29] <qhoxie> losher: no i mean something like directconnect or waste but storing on a central server
[07:30] <bird7> 0.0
[07:30] <SmithX> how does one update their apt cache?
[07:30] <SmithX> I don't see firefox3.5 in it
[07:30] <pog> does anybody know how to find someting in a "weechat" ?
[07:30] <bazhang> SmithX, what version of ubuntu
[07:30] <lstarnes> SmithX: it should be firefox-3.5
[07:31] <apoleo12> hawlo
[07:31] <SmithX> bazhang: nubuntu 8.12 Beta candidate
[07:31] <bazhang> SmithX, Ubuntu?
[07:31] <SmithX> bazhang: no, nubuntu
[07:31] <apoleo12> Where can I have my pointer size bigger?
[07:31] <tuxwulf> !nubuntu
[07:31] <bazhang> SmithX, that's not Ubuntu
[07:31] <iceblock> you feel my soul, you always wth me when im on my own, you give me life, darkness gives me light and life
[07:32] <bazhang> iceblock, please take chat elsewhere
[07:32] <SmithX> bazhang: it's a different distribution of ubuntu, like kubuntu or xubuntu
[07:32] <bazhang> SmithX, downloaded from www.ubuntu.com ?
[07:32] <lstarnes> SmithX: I don't think it's an official variant
[07:32] <iceblock> baz: jelly since im in the nightclub relaying my fun
[07:32] <SmithX> bazhang: it can't find firefox-3.5, either--I know there must be a way to update the cache
[07:33] <iceblock> pussy
[07:33] <bazhang> !ot > iceblock
[07:33] <losher> SmithX: their web page talks about #zdsec
[07:33] <bazhang> iceblock, no need for that language here
[07:33] <Jeruvy> !ot | iceblock
[07:33] <SmithX> losher: updating the cache should be general to ubuntu
[07:33] <bazhang> SmithX, ask in nubuntu support channel
[07:33] <iceblock> im parting enjoy the kiwi love
[07:33] <SmithX> bazhang: there's no one there, unfortunatley
[07:34] <losher> SmithX: I don't make the rules about what's on or off topic...
[07:34] <bazhang> SmithX, all the more reason to get Ubuntu
[07:35] <SmithX> bazhang: nubuntu should have all the same packages as ubuntu
[07:36] <SmithX> it's the same thing as ubuntu--it's just a certain set of installed packages
[07:36] <bazhang> SmithX, #nubuntu NOT here
[07:36] <eut> banshee, amarok, or gtkpod? any opinions?
[07:36] <bazhang> eut, for what
[07:36] <apoleo12> Where can I have my pointer size bigger anybody?
[07:36] <SmithX> ok, different question: how does one update the ubuntu cache? (I just downloaded ubuntu and installed it)
[07:36] <bazhang> apoleo12, cursor?
[07:37] <eut> bazhang, for personal preference, these seem to be the popular 3 options and i wanted to get some advice on what works best for you
[07:37] <bazhang> eut, for syncing iPod? banshee
[07:37] <tohsh> How would I tell the transmission-daemon to autostart on reboot?
[07:37] <fluurp> brb
[07:37] <apoleo12> bazhang: yes
[07:37] <eut> bazhang, yeah, i just want to get some music on it. its a nano 16g
[07:37] <gartral> bazhang: whats the difference between asking a support question about nubuntu and xubuntu here if the core packages and kernal are the same?
[07:38] <bazhang> eut, banshee should do, best to try it out
[07:38] <SmithX> wait, did I say nubuntu? I'm sorry, I made a type--I have plain ubuntu
[07:38] <eut> bazhang, ok, thanks.
[07:38] <losher> SmithX: well, why didn't you say so in the first place.... :-)
[07:38] <p-f> what are the odds of my setup bursting into flames if I upgrade from 6.06.2 straight to 9.04?
[07:38] <bazhang> !derivatives > gartral
[07:38] <apoleo12> buz: i keep gettin smaller pointer after i had it resized a notch or two then revbooted and returned to aorginal size
[07:38] <SmithX> losher: sorry, I'm just a noob
[07:38] <apoleo12> ive forgotten where tho?
[07:38] <bazhang> p-f, dont do it. will break. /msg ubottu upgrade
[07:39] <iceblock1> yaay back
[07:39] <bazhang> iceblock1, stay on topic
[07:39] <iceblock1> ok brain eggs
[07:39] <apoleo12> bua: i keep gettin smaller pointer after i had it resized a notch or two then revbooted and returned to aorginal size
[07:39] <iceblock1> why dosent my 4870X2 work
[07:39] <apoleo12> bazhang: i keep gettin smaller pointer after i had it resized a notch or two then revbooted and returned to aorginal size
[07:39] <apoleo12> oops sorry
[07:39] <iceblock1> give me the answer
[07:40] <bazhang> iceblock1, that makes no sense
[07:40] <iceblock1> why dosent my 4870x2 work in ubuntu
[07:40] <iceblock1> come on
[07:40] <iceblock1> i want a answer
[07:40] <kindofabuzz> what is a 4870x2?
[07:40] <iceblock1> of course not
[07:40] <FloodBot3> iceblock1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:40] <iceblock1> you dont even have one
[07:40] <rfreiberger> how do I execute a shell script?
[07:40] <bazhang> apoleo12, themes customize pointer (right click change background
[07:41] <gartral> iceblock1: we cant provide an answer unless you tell us what the ambiguated modle number refers to device wise
[07:41] <rww> I believe a 4870x2 means two ATI Radeon HD 4870s working in CrossFire mode.
[07:41] <iceblock1> how do i makre my sapphire 4870X2 work in ubuntu 9.04
[07:41] <iceblock1> you ediot
[07:41] <kindofabuzz> ban this fool
[07:41] <gartral> !atittude | iceblock1
[07:41] <bazhang> iceblock1, no need for the language
[07:41] <gartral> !attitude | iceblock1
[07:41] <shah16> rfreiberger: ./<filename> , make sure to chmod +x before executing
[07:41] <kindofabuzz> no one even knows what a 4870X2 is
[07:42] <apoleo12> bazhang: OMG! i missed that!
[07:42] <iceblock1> now idiots a lang, fools, thats why lixs, is a lowered version of all OS in the worls
[07:42] <redbrain> hey what permissions shoudl you give webapps so apache can write to them instead of just doing chmod 777 which cant be the right way
[07:42] <apoleo12> i got that now thanks baz
[07:42] <fluurp>  4870X2 is a fan
[07:42] <rww> Or, rather, two RV770 GPUs (the GPUs from the 4870) on one card. Or something else silly like that.
[07:42] <kindofabuzz> iceblock1, speak english
[07:42] <Zxcvb> what would cause slow (over 10 minutes) restoration from hibernating?
[07:43] <kindofabuzz> slow ram?
[07:43] <gartral> wow.. we need an anti-flamer sheild
[07:43] <p-f> bazhang, thanks, it's exactly what I needed :)
[07:43] <rww> gartral: We do, they're called ops, they do their job pretty well :p
[07:43] <redbrain> hey what permissions shoudl you give webapps so apache can write to them instead of just doing chmod 777 which cant be the right way
[07:43] <gartral> Zxcvb: either very slow (or bad) ram, or more commonly, an Nvidia gfx card with nvidia drivers version 180
[07:44] <rww> redbrain: chown then to user and group www-data, then chmod 770.
[07:44] <adroel> #Mataram
[07:44] <losher> SmithX: just google ubuntu firefox 3.5 ok?
[07:45] <adroel> help !!!! i am a newbie, i don't know how to compile a tar.gz format
[07:45] <ONR|> !list
[07:45] <gartral> !source | adroel
[07:45] <Zxcvb> gartral: oddly enough, the image restores much faster (percentage goes up faster) if I just hold enter
[07:46] <losher> adroel: what's it a tar.gz of?
[07:46] <gartral> i think we broke ubottu with that one
[07:46] <adroel> fire fox-3.5
[07:46] <rww> !ff35
[07:46] <bazhang> adroel, what version of ubuntu
[07:46] <redbrain> rww: so is it adduser <user> www-data then chown the files user:www-data then chmod 770?
[07:46] <gartral> somone reboot the bot!
[07:46] <adroel> 9.04
[07:47] <bazhang> firefox-3.5 is in the repos adroel
[07:47] <ONR|> um
[07:47] <losher> adroel: are you really planning to compile from source? THere are easier ways to get ff3.5
[07:47] <jado> does someone know a linux software to play piano (with the computer keyboard)?
[07:47] <ONR|> file serving
[07:47] <rww> redbrain: that'd work, yeah.
[07:47] <ONR|> where
[07:47] <bazhang> ONR|, what files
[07:47] <gartral> ubottu: is flooding
[07:47] <SmithX> losher: ah, what I'm reading says that firefox-3.5 hasn't been packaged yet
[07:47] <ONR|> muse new album
[07:48] <SmithX> thought I read about someone installing it with apt-get here earlier
[07:48] <Zxcvb> gartral: any idea why holding down a key such as enter would speed restoring from hibernation?
[07:48] <adroel> ok thank's, i'll try it
[07:48] <redbrain> rww: thanks man :) problem was i didnt do the chown of the files i just adduser to www-data and hoped it would work doh! :P
[07:48] <losher> SmithX: see ubottu's msg above...
[07:48] <maco> SmithX: firefox-3.5 exists on jaunty and is default on karmic
[07:48] <adroel> BTW i luv ubuntu very much
[07:48] <gartral> SmithX: its not...as ff3.5... its shiretoko.. mozilla's prerelease name
[07:48] <bazhang> ONR|, wrong channel
[07:48] <ONR|> sry
[07:48] <ONR|> where ..
[07:48] <rww> !piracy | ONR|
[07:48] <tohsh> I accidently locked my firewall and can't ssh into the server. Anyway around this without getting remote support?
[07:48] <gartral> Zxcvb: not without knowing the models numbers and charecteristics of all your hardware
[07:48] <lstarnes> ONR|: this network does not have file sharing
[07:49]  * fluurp lol'd
[07:49] <ONR|> no no freenode .... have to file serving bot
[07:49] <losher> tohsh: can't think of one, unless you have another way in....
[07:49] <bazhang> ONR|, stop please
[07:49] <ONR|> yes.
[07:49] <hellhound> can someone help me with a script that checks if a process is running and if it is not then perform a command?  so far I have t='bin/pid of wine' while [ -n "$t" ] do t='/bin/pidof wine' done   if [ -z "$t" ] then ...blah blah.... fi   exit 0        but it does not seem to be working
[07:50] <SmithX> losher, maco, gartral: thanks for the info
[07:50] <gartral> hellhound: pastebin the script, it looks like your omitting quite alot with "... Blah blah..."
[07:50] <Zxcvb> gartral: going to try setting nohz=off, do you know if there is a way to do that without rebooting?
[07:50] <SmithX> I didn't know the package repositories were different for different releases
[07:51] <adroel> ASK!!! how could i restore my ubuntu when some thing wrong happen, please email me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:51] <losher> SmithX: good job it wasn't for nubuntu, eh?
[07:51] <SmithX> I would have thought all releases/distros would all draw from the same set of repros
[07:51] <gartral> Zxcvb: not without knowing what nohz is  :\
[07:51] <bazhang> adroel, sbackup?
[07:51] <Zxcvb> gartral: disables the tickless kernel
[07:51] <kust0m> SmithX: different libs and whatnot
[07:51] <EagleScreen> adroel: try partimage
[07:51] <maco> SmithX: things'd break if they tried to all share the same libs
[07:52] <gartral> Zxcvb: no.. i dont belive you can swap kernels without haveing a xen hypermonitor
[07:52] <Zxcvb> garatral: it's a kernel option, much like acpi=off
[07:52] <Schmitty> how do I stop x
[07:52] <gartral> Zxcvb: thats still considered a kernal swap
[07:52] <Zxcvb> oh well
[07:52] <SmithX> maco, kust0m: I guess, but still I'd think the package manager would resolve all dependencies and versions and libraries that you need
[07:52] <maxagaz> is it possible to disable window decoration for epiphany in gconf, or do I have to use devilspie ?
[07:52] <bazhang> !sbackup > adroel
[07:52] <gartral> Schmitty: /etc/init.d gdm stop
[07:53] <oguncak> hi friends. i wanted to listen to a radio on the internet, and it put two options "play with windows media player / winamp". when i tried wmp to play it, firefox made a search for a suitable plugin and couldn't find one. how can i solve this problem? can i play that stream using totem or sth else?
[07:53] <ortsvorsteher> Schmitty: open a terminal, type in there " sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" instead that you using gdm
[07:53] <maco> SmithX: there are certain versions in each release. if you grab a binary built for one release and try to use it on a different release, it may be VERY unhappy
[07:53] <kust0m> oguncak: if you use the winamp version it will use mp3 streams
[07:53] <kust0m> oguncak: most likely, at least
[07:53] <gartral> oguncak: try VLC... or perhaps Mplayer
[07:53] <SmithX> maco: that's true--it's all precompiled I guess
[07:54] <maco> SmithX: exactly. is not gentoo :P
[07:54] <losher> SmithX: and that just between-release compatibility. Between-distro compatibilty would be an order of magnitude more work....
[07:54] <hellhound> gartral, here you go http://pastebin.com/m32e76740
[07:54] <crx686> Hi I have ubuntu server running with ebox. I have my website up but I'm having a problem trying to copy my webpages to the server it says i have no permission to copy my pages over. Does anyone know how to copy webpages over?
[07:54] <SmithX> I guess I'll just need to compile from source
[07:54] <Stargazer> how can i look at my comp's temps?
[07:55] <oguncak> when i chose the winamp option, it says: [playlist] NumberOfEntries=1 File1=http://strm-2.uk.medianova.tv:4000 .... and stuck..
[07:55] <gartral> molasses-fox
[07:55] <Kartagis> !pidgin
[07:55] <losher> SmithX: hope you have lots of cpu. ff is massive...
[07:55] <Kartagis> !msn
[07:55] <gartral> !slow
[07:55] <ortsvorsteher> !amsn | kartagis
[07:56] <ortsvorsteher> !info amsn
[07:56] <Schmitty> ortsvorsteher: i am using twm
[07:56] <losher> gartral: which latest edition is that?
[07:56] <Kartagis> there is a problem with msn's notification server on pidgin
[07:56] <Zxcvb> oddly enough, nohz=off fixed the slow boot problem
[07:57] <ortsvorsteher> Schmitty: so stop x with the script under /etc/init.d ( may its twm ) . Do you install new drivers for your graphic card?
[07:57] <SmithX> thanks for the help, everyone!
[07:57] <SmithX> new question:
[07:57] <Zxcvb> now if only I could figure out why after hibernating, my battery goes from 100% to 50%
[07:57] <losher> !ask | SmithX
[07:57] <SmithX> is there a way to forge my OS identity? e.g. instead of saying I have ubuntu, webpages and such think I have windows XP
[07:57] <gartral> hellhound: umm.. are you forgetting to point to the executable somewhere in there? also, i believe, cedega, like wine, requires the definition of it's ENV path too work
[07:58] <Schmitty> ortsvorsteher: so i just installed fluxbox and I can't run it until i kill the current twm session
[07:58] <lstarnes> Schmitty: you could try changing your browser's useragent string
[07:58] <SmithX> yessier ubottu--just a habit from lesser frequented channels
[07:58] <gartral> bazhang: did kick that man simply for his username?
[07:59] <adroel> ASK !!! what is recomended tool for download manager as fast as IDM on windows?
[07:59] <fluurp> can i "replace" totem and rythmbox with vlc media player? i mean : JUST HAVE vlc for mp3's and movies?
[07:59] <ortsvorsteher> Schmitty: may you press ctrl + alt + backspace?
[07:59] <losher> SmithX: I believe that's commonly done by various browsers to fool various sites. See lstarnes msg above
[07:59] <gartral> adroel: flashgot or downthemall
[07:59] <SmithX> lstarnes: useragent string just affects browser, right? or does it contain os version as well?
[07:59] <lstarnes> SmithX: at the protocol level, it contains OS info
[08:00] <lstarnes> SmithX: you might need to install an extension for useragent switching
[08:00] <lstarnes> SmithX: otherwise, look for useragent in about:config
[08:00] <gartral> SmithX: it ussualy contains OS version, and some other info, but IE (8 especially) is known for only sending the version of the web browser
[08:00] <jado> hi, i'm trying to install the source from there: http://vmpk.sourceforge.net/#Download but when i write 'cmake' i get the help of cmake i am asked a path or something
 is it resumable?
[08:01] <lstarnes> jado: cmake .
[08:01] <lstarnes> jado: remember the . in there
[08:01] <gartral> adroel: only if the stream your downloading from's host allows you to resume
[08:01] <Pranky> Vmware or Vmplayer for ubuntu 9.04
[08:01] <jado> lstarnes: i get this: http://pastebin.com/f5b571057
[08:02] <SmithX> I'm not just saying this, but I'm really impressed by the level of knowledge in this room
[08:02] <SmithX> sure enough--checking about:config, I see that my user agent string has "ubuntu" in it
[08:02] <lstarnes> jado: read the errors that come before it
[08:02] <fluurp> thats why im repeating this
[08:02] <fluurp> can i "replace" totem and rythmbox with vlc media player? i mean : JUST HAVE vlc for mp3's and movies?
[08:02] <SmithX> IE just confuses the issue by hiding part of it
[08:02] <hellhound> gartral, hummmm the game runs fine and the xset r off works as well... but when I am done with the game it will not run the command xset on which is why i think the while loop is not working correctly
[08:02] <bazhang> Pranky, vmware-server -workstation or -player? for what?
[08:03] <Pranky> player
[08:03] <rfreiberger> has anyone worked with Wine in Ubuntu 9? I am having issues running any Win game
[08:03] <jado> lstarnes: i'm sorry i messed the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/252340/
[08:03] <bazhang> Pranky, dont see an actual question there
[08:03] <shahzad> hi i need help for hibernate problem with my ubuntu jaunty
[08:03] <Schmitty> how do I set what window manager will start? I need to make this change in shell
[08:03] <Pranky> bazhang, I want VMplayer to run other os in ubuntu 9.04
[08:03] <bazhang> rfreiberger, check the appdb and help in #winehq
[08:03] <bazhang> !appdb | rfreiberger
[08:03] <lstarnes> jado: you might not have the right Qt development packages
[08:04] <hellhound> gartral, i do not know if the loop is the problem or the way it is identifying if wine is running... i have my system monitor up and i see when a wine process is running and when it stops
[08:04] <jado> lstarnes: qmake --version says that Qt is at 4.5.2
[08:04] <lstarnes> jado: that doesn't mean that you have all the development files
[08:05] <jado> lstarnes: but i think i have them since i've compiled kdevelop4 (i needed a lot of dev files for this one)
[08:05] <bazhang> Pranky, with or without usb support
[08:05] <Stargazer> how can i look at my comp's temps?
[08:05] <lstarnes> jado: what about libqt4-dev ?
[08:05] <jado> lstarnes: yes i have it
[08:05] <Pranky> bazhang, with usb support
[08:05] <shafi_> I have some broken packages , and now I can not install any package on my laptop, I have also tried apt-get install -f but I am getting this error : "E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages."
[08:06] <bazhang> Pranky, there is also virtualbox to consider then.
[08:06] <lstarnes> jado: I'm not sure how to fix the error that you got then
[08:06] <lstarnes> jado: you may need to run ccmake . first
[08:06] <Pranky> bazhang, can you send me url or name where I can download
[08:07] <bazhang> Pranky, virtualbox-ose (no usb support) in repos, with usb ---> http://www.virtualbox.org/
[08:07] <jado> lstarnes: http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7420/ccmake.png
[08:08] <lstarnes> jado: press c, then prss g
[08:08] <lstarnes> *press
[08:08] <Pranky> ok, Thanks
[08:08] <adroel> WANTED !!! I am a newbie, but i think i just fallin in love wit ubuntu, and i need someone to be my guide, please send me an email adress who can i ask in case of i got a trouble with my ubuntu
[08:09] <hellhound> gardar, any ideas?
[08:09] <bazhang> adroel, better to read a guide book, let me get you a link
[08:09] <bazhang> argh
[08:09] <lstarnes> adroel: asking in this channel or the forums usually works
[08:09] <shafi_> how to recover broken packages
[08:09] <jado> lstarnes: presing c shows me a window with the same error than just before; and then pressing g gives nothing
[08:09] <shafi_> ?
[08:09]  * apoleo12 pats bazhang's back
[08:10] <SmithX> hmmm--I just downloaded the tar.bz2 from firefox.com, untarred, and it runs without a problem
[08:10] <SmithX> i wonder how in the world that worked
[08:11] <losher> shafi_: try http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-320934.html
[08:11] <jado> lstarnes: what about this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/637079/cmake-compilation-error-unknown-cmake-command-qt4wrapui
[08:11] <SmithX> according to my user agent string, I'm using ubuntu intrepid
[08:11] <lstarnes> jado: I'm not sure how to use that
[08:11] <SmithX> what's everybody's favorite firefox addon?
[08:11] <SmithX> Mine's got to be vimperator
[08:12] <losher> SmithX: they make a fairly generic compilation for ff that runs on most linuxes, so I'm not entirely surprised.
[08:12] <jado> lstarnes: hm i deleted the CMakeCache and now it began to work
[08:12] <fluurp> mine is spellcheck, lol
[08:12] <prodigel> hi all. I want monitor the data transfered from my computer during some http requests, to make sure it's done through ssl. do you know such tools i can install?
[08:12] <jado> lstarnes: --   package 'alsa>=1.0' not found
[08:12] <lstarnes> prodigel: you could try wireshark
[08:12] <P_Kable> hi , I want to install kubuntu clean and keep my /home from ubuntu, will I still have eveything in place after installing kubuntu ?
[08:12] <gartral> prodigel: wireshark
[08:12] <SmithX> fluurp: spellcheck isn't an addon, it's part of firefox
[08:13] <jado> lstarnes: but alsa is already the newest version
[08:13] <SmithX> prodigel: you can use wireshark, tcpdump, ettercap, ...
[08:13]  * fluurp failed
[08:13] <lstarnes> jado: it's probably looking for the development files for it
[08:13] <gartral> SmithX: its aspell... packaged with ff
[08:13] <prodigel> SmithX, which is easier to use?
[08:14] <SmithX> prodigel: wireshark definitely
[08:14] <prodigel> SmithX, for my purpose at least
[08:14] <prodigel> SmithX, thanks.
[08:14] <prodigel> gartral, thank you
[08:14] <jado> lstarnes: alsa-source?
[08:14] <oDesk> hello all
[08:14] <prodigel> lstarnes, thank you too ;)
[08:14] <lstarnes> jado: I don't know what the package is
[08:14] <shafi_> losher: I have tried but I am getting this error: "E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.E: Unable to correct dependencies"
[08:14] <lstarnes> prodigel: you might need to run it as root, but I'm not entirely sure
[08:15] <prodigel> lstarnes, that's no issue
[08:15] <jado> lstarnes: maybe this: libasound2-dev - shared library for ALSA applications. Development files
[08:15] <Caerbannog> hello
[08:15] <lstarnes> jado: that might be it
[08:15] <losher> shafi_: I've never seen your particular error before, so I think it's comparatively rare. Keep googling is your best bet...
[08:16] <oDesk> using wget http://someurl.com/123.pdf  would save the file as 123.pdf, sometimes the filename dynamicaly generated and it's also saved as 123.pdf ... iwant to keep the dynamically generated file name .. how to ?
[08:16] <SmithX> why does firefox not look as clean as it does on windows? is it the window manager/themes i'm using?
[08:16] <jado> lstarnes: thanks that's working :)
[08:16] <jigs> How to make memory usage in MB and not in % on CONKY system monitor?
[08:17] <hellhound> gardar, any suggestions after looking at the script.  The game (cedega) runs fine but when I close the game it does not seem that the scripts goes through the while loop or the way the loop is checking if a program is running is not working not sure which
[08:18] <losher> hellhound: add some echo statements so you can debug the thing...
[08:20] <SmithX> and yet another question: why does fullscreen mode revert to normal mode whenever I switch desktops?
[08:20] <apoleo12> because it comes out of it
[08:20] <SmithX> I love running ff vimperator in fullscreen mode, but it's a pain to have to keep putting it back into it every time I switch desktops
[08:21] <kraut> moin
[08:21] <apoleo12> press F11 at one keystroke if you can blindfold it
[08:22] <oDesk> i mean to download the file and save it using the server-suggested filename? using wget ?howto?
[08:22] <SmithX> I always have to look at the keboard to find F11, plus that's painful
[08:22] <SmithX> there must be a way to keep it fullscreen
[08:22] <shafi_> is it possible to edit the list of broken packages manually?
[08:23] <shafi_> via a text file or somthing similar?
[08:23] <apoleo12> look at every time?
[08:24] <apoleo12> SmithX: but you know, mine's seem to stay at fullscreen whenever I go
[08:24] <greyz`> `
[08:24] <losher> shafi_: you can edit /var/lib/dpkg/status *carefully*. Make a backup of it before you start...
[08:24] <hellhound> losher, gardar, ok I added comments (http://pastebin.com/m75a2b4ca) in the terminal i see the comment "Starting Game" and "Start of Loop" but then I get a  hanging cursor and no other comments or action
[08:25] <SmithX> apoleo12: maybe it's a fluxbox thing or something then
[08:25] <apoleo12> what is that anyway? music software?
[08:25] <lstarnes> apoleo12: fluxbox is a window manager
[08:25] <shambat> hi all, I am looking at a tcpdump on my DHCP machine, and I see these messages: http://pastebin.com/m426233e1 are the DHCP messages not coming through from my end?
[08:25] <apoleo12> oh
[08:25] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox apoleo12
[08:26] <losher> hellhound: echo $t each time you set it also to see what values it's getting...
[08:26] <apoleo12> ok checking it now...
[08:27] <losher> shambat: looks to me like A is sending dhcp requests and B is replying saying that it has been configured not to reply. firewall? dhcp server not running?
[08:28] <hellhound> losher, ok the terminal just keeps spitting out "/bin/pidof wine"
[08:29] <apoleo12> is it me or tonight is slow than ever?
[08:29] <losher> hellhound: ah, an important clue. You need backticks not single quotes t = `/bin/pidof wine`
[08:30] <hellhound> losher, what re backticks?  these "  ?
[08:30] <lstarnes> hellhound: or t = $(/bin/pidof wine)
[08:30] <lstarnes> hellhound: a `
[08:31] <losher> hellhound: on my keyboard, it's the key *under* the ESC key.
[08:31] <apoleo12> technically under the tilde
[08:31] <apoleo12> but yeah...
[08:32] <losher> hellhound: yeah, what apoleo12 said...
[08:32] <hellhound> losher, lstarnes, gardar,  awesome that worked!!!!!! THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!!
[08:33]  * losher says: "ah, the small victories..."
[08:34] <shambat> losher: so I need to setup my iptables to accept those DHCP requests then I guess
[08:34] <sluurp> omg my ubuntu just ferezed >_<
[08:34] <sluurp> *freezed
[08:35] <losher> shambat: yes, or they'll never reach your dhcp server. Note the "admin prohibited" in the icmp msg...
[08:36] <losher> sluurp: froze
[08:36] <jado> i'm currently trying vmpk (virtual midi piano keyboard) and it seems that i have a midi problem since i have no sound
[08:37] <sluurp> yeye, im sorry
[08:37] <apoleo12> or frozed ;)
[08:37] <losher> apoleo12: please try not to confuse the non-native speakers. Or the Americans...
[08:38] <apoleo12> I thought it was unified?
[08:38] <Karmic> Hey guys I recive a nasty error when I try to install PacketTracer in Karmic(Alpha3) dpkg: error processing PacketTracer-5.2-u.i386.deb (--install):
[08:38] <Karmic>  short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/local/PacketTracer5/lib/libQtWebKit.so.4.4.3') what is the problem ?
[08:38] <sluurp> hes not confusing me he is correcting me
[08:39] <losher> apoleo12: see what you're done now?
[08:39] <kust0m> Karmic: what app are you using to install?
[08:39] <losher> apoleo12: you're -> you've
[08:39] <apoleo12> what? he was praising now!
[08:39] <sluurp> stop
[08:39] <sluurp> :)
[08:39] <apoleo12> haha
[08:40] <apoleo12> Slurpee: so it has "frozed" but you're still here...?
[08:41] <Karmic> kust0m: the PacketTracer it's a .bin package and install it using ./<package name>, at the beginning of installation it tells me that tar and gzip -> invalid compressed data
[08:41] <Slurpee> ?
[08:41] <sluurp> after a manuell reset, yes
[08:42] <losher> Karmic: a corrupted download?
[08:42] <apoleo12> slurP : my appologies...
[08:42] <apoleo12> Slurpee: my appologies...
[08:42] <Karmic> maybe..
[08:42] <Slurpee> no prob
[08:43] <kiaas_> So, my ISP is sending my a new DSL modem, because my old one can't handle 3mbit/s speeds... speedtest just told me my connection was going 3.03mbit/s without the new modem.
[08:43] <losher> Karmic: well did you download it manually, e.g. using ascii mode instead of binary mode? Or incomplete? Otherwise, I would have to guess it's been mis-packaged
[08:43] <shambat> losher: I get this from /var/log/messages: dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:11:22:33:44:55 via A: unknown network segment (sorry, using A and B for generality)
[08:45] <losher> shambat: unknown network segment? Sounds like you dhcp server doesn't know what do with the packet. Is dhcpd misconfigured?
[08:45] <Karmic> losher : I'll try to redownload and see if there are any changes
[08:46] <mr_lou> Can someone help me? I need to burn a DVD ISO image - but at the slowest possible speed to increase the chance of stupid DVD players being able to read it. I've tried Brasero and Gnomebaker, but even though I set the speed at e.g. 2.4, it still burns at much higher speeds. Preferable I'd burn it at 1x speed if possible. Can I set speed using the dd command?  :P
[08:47] <Crash2108> How do I get an IP of a machine on a network so I can SSH into it?  Do I have to port forward?
[08:47] <losher> mr_lou: I usually burn DVD-R at 4x using growisofs. I get really good results with that...
[08:47] <Berzerker> check your router settings
[08:47] <apoleo12> Actually wehn I do an update ona  partiular software some things aren't working untill i found it rto get itback in working order
[08:47] <Berzerker> DHCP client table
[08:47] <Berzerker> apoleo12, ok, what?
[08:48] <mr_lou> losher, I have a stupid player that won't read much, and one that reads a bit more. But I'd really like to be able to burn at 1x speed.
[08:48] <llml> i'm working on a bash script, some of the commands should be done as super user. but the others should NOT. how can i let it run automatically? not stopped by the sudo password requirement
[08:49] <mr_lou> losher, Do you know what 1x speed means? How many bytes pr second? Maybe I could set obs attribut of dd to that....
[08:49] <mr_lou> dd obs=1024
[08:49] <apoleo12> Berzerker: Im just pointing out the obvious as an advice thats all...
[08:49] <apoleo12> just doin a bit of conribution...?
[08:49] <mr_lou> or sumthin'
[08:49] <Berzerker> apoleo12, I just didn't understand what you said
[08:49] <Berzerker> lol
[08:49] <losher> mr_lou: it may not help. Too slow can also cause errors. And some brands of dvd work better than others. Any reason you aren't using growisofs which is designed for burning dvds?
[08:50] <sluurp> uh huh
[08:50] <llml> Anyone: I'm working on a bash script, some of the commands should be done as super user. but the others should NOT. how can i let it run automatically? not stopped by the sudo password requirement
[08:50] <losher> mr_lou: growisofs  -speed=4 -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cdrom=file.iso
[08:50] <mr_lou> losher, Don't know growisofs. I just searched App Manager for "burn" and found Brasero and Gnomebaker, which is also designed for burning dvds. Will look for growisofs now then.
[08:51] <Gnea> llml: just add a function to check the id to see if it's root or not
[08:51] <mr_lou> losher, growisofs doesn't appear to be in App Manager.
[08:52] <apoleo12> Berzerker: dont know what part you dont get or or wasn'T for you :P
[08:52] <losher> mr_lou: it's in a package called dvd+rw-tools
[08:52] <Berzerker> apoleo12, don't worry about it
[08:52] <llml> Gnea: then automatically run? not interrupted by sudo password requirement?
[08:52] <oDesk> want to download the file and save it using the server-suggested filename? using wget ?howto?
[08:53] <losher> oDesk: can't you just do wget <url> ?
[08:53] <mikejones> aight this is an easy question how do i can ubuntu 8.10 login background wallpaper?????
[08:53] <Gnea> llml: it doesn't even do sudo or go anywhere near there, just see if the account running it is a root account or not. how you run it from there is up to you.
[08:53] <mikejones> i mean change
[08:53] <jefimenko> i tried switch users in gnome and now it seems that i'm stuck at a terminal. does anyone know how i can get back to my X session?
[08:54] <oDesk> losher: for ex. http://some.ur/i.php?id=12   -> file name will be i.php?id=12 while for ex. it should be  "title.jpg"
[08:54] <anathematic> how do I check what my current shell is?
[08:54] <Gnea> llml: if [ `id -u` == "0" ]; then blahblahblah; else if [ `id -u` != "0" ]; then yadayadayada; fi    something like that
[08:54] <Berzerker> anathematic, what it is?
[08:54] <llml> Gnea: yeah, gotcha, maybe we are not focusing on the same problem.
[08:54] <anathematic> Berzerker: yes
[08:54] <Berzerker> anathematic, like...bash or..?
[08:54] <anathematic> I spotted something on a blog for $PATH or sometihng to tel me but I since lost it
[08:54] <anathematic> yes
[08:55] <llml> Gnea: i mean. say, in the script: touch xxx; sudo touch xx
[08:55] <mikejones> anybody knows how to change ubuntu 8.10 login wallpaper?
[08:55] <shambat> losher: could be ... new to dhcp, so I can't really tell for sure :)
[08:55] <Gnea> llml: what i'm saying is, in the script, if it's a root account, it can touch the script, otherwise it can't.
[08:55] <Berzerker> anathematic, ubuntu uses bash by default, if you don't change it
[08:55] <losher> shambat: and I'm working from ancient memory....
[08:56] <oDesk> losher: someone asking the same question here<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but the answer never  works for me
[08:56] <Gnea> llml: what i'm saying, is that the script itself should be run by sudo
[08:56] <jado> do you have a white page on: http://www.tvsubtitles.net/?
[08:56] <anathematic> Berzerker: I'm just looking at crontab at the moment and it says SHELL=/bin/sh is that bash?
[08:56] <anathematic> (this is probably a stupid question huh?)
[08:56] <Gnea> llml: otherwise you create more subroutines than is necessary
[08:56] <Berzerker> uh
[08:56] <Berzerker> no
[08:56] <Berzerker> that is sh
[08:56] <Berzerker> lol
[08:56] <lstarnes> anathematic: /bin/sh is either the bourne shell (sh) or dash
[08:56] <FloodBot3> Berzerker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:56] <Berzerker> blah
[08:56] <lstarnes> anathematic: bash is usually /bin/bash
[08:56] <anathematic> mmm
[08:56] <anathematic> ahh well that would make sense
[08:56] <llml> Gnea: i see, then all commands in the scripts will be run as sudoers, right?
[08:56] <Berzerker> lstarnes, support stealer. :(
[08:57] <Gnea> Berzerker: actually, /bin/sh is, by default, linked to /bin/dash these days
[08:57] <anathematic> can I change into sh and change back to test a command?
[08:57] <lstarnes> anathematic: yes
[08:57] <llml> Gnea: but i need some of them run as normal user
[08:57] <Berzerker> Gnea, well yeah. the point was it's not bash. :P
[08:57] <Gnea> llml: if you allow them to, yes
[08:57] <Karmic> losher: The problem was a corrupted archive, thanks for your time.
[08:57] <anathematic> lstarnes: wouldn't be able to tell me how, would you? :)
[08:57] <lstarnes> anathematic: sh
[08:57] <losher> oDesk: so it's actually a bug in curl & wget. Try lynx? or links?
[08:57] <lstarnes> anathematic: type the commands you want to test
[08:57] <lstarnes> anathematic: exit
[08:57] <Gnea> llml: well if it's in sudo already, then it'll "just work" as another user
[08:57] <losher> Karmic: good to know...
[08:57] <anathematic> oh
[08:57] <anathematic> duh
[08:57] <anathematic> ty lstarnes
[08:58] <llml> Gnea: if a file is touched by a sudo command, then its owner will root. i don't want it
[08:58] <Gnea> llml: this is what chown is for
[08:58] <lstarnes> llml: you could put sudo before the individual commands or include chown/chmod
[08:59] <llml> Gnea: thats just an example, the actual command is not touch, and produces a batch of files
[08:59] <Gnea> lstarnes: he wants to put sudo commands in the script. i told him he should just run the script via sudo from the commandline, and have a function that checks to see if it's being run via sudo or not within the script to tell it to run or not run certain things in certain ways depending on the result
[09:00] <llml> lstarnes: yeah, but when i run i, i have to provide password at every sudo commands
[09:00] <nitjas> llml: are the sudo and non-sudo commands mutually exclusively run?
[09:00] <anathematic> thanks guys :)
[09:00] <Gnea> llml: I understand. but if you're running the script as sudo already, then it's already privelaged, and thus you can just use simple commands within the script to achieve the goal you wish to accomplish
[09:00] <llml> nitjas: yeah
[09:00] <lstarnes> llml: echo "password" | sudo -S command
[09:00] <Gnea> llml: that's why you just run the script itself via sudo, that way you only do the password once
[09:01] <lstarnes> llml: that is very insecure though, but it might work
[09:01] <Trolly> UBUNTUBUNTUBUNTU!
[09:01] <llml> lstarnes: looking into that
[09:01] <nitjas> llml: then why dont you with Gnea's suggestion if user is root then (sudo command) if user is not root then (non sudo command)
[09:01] <Trolly> alter schwede!
[09:01] <nitjas> llml: before every command
[09:01] <Gnea> llml: the only way to really do it the way you're thinking is with expect, and that is extremely insecure, since you'd have to store the password within the script itself
[09:01] <lstarnes> llml: use extreme caution with that
[09:02] <Trolly> Jetzt erzählt ihr mal nicht so einen Blödsinn, ja?
[09:02] <llml> nitjas: i want it run not interrupted by the providing password requirement
[09:02] <lstarnes> llml: anyone able to view that script would then be able to view the stored password
[09:02] <Gnea> !english | Trolly
[09:02] <llml> lstarnes: gotcha!
[09:02] <fluurp> he just insulted us
[09:02] <fluurp> lol
[09:02] <jefimenko> i tried switch users in gnome and now it seems that i'm stuck at a terminal. does anyone know how i can get back to my X session?
[09:02] <Berzerker> woah
[09:02] <Berzerker> I didn't understand that
[09:02] <Berzerker> lol
[09:03] <kiaas_> jefimenko,  try startx
[09:03] <Trolly> hä? wat is los?
[09:03] <lstarnes> llml: normally, you only need to enter the password the first time if the commands run within a short time
[09:03] <nitjas> llml: if user is su then he has to provide the password once, if user is non-su then he is not asked for it. You want to eliminate that single challenge too?
[09:03] <kust0m> jefimenko: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:03] <Trolly> lalalalala
[09:03] <lstarnes> llml: if you can, find a more secure methond
[09:03] <Gnea> llml: well, you can either beat your knees with a baseball bat or you can swim with beautiful women, figuratively speaking
[09:03] <jefimenko> kiaas_, kust0m: my X session had lots of stuff open... it's really important for me to recover my work
[09:03] <Berzerker> wat.
[09:03] <Trolly> llml
[09:03] <Trolly> llml
[09:03] <Trolly> llml
[09:03] <FloodBot3> Trolly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:04] <shambat> losher: this is my iptables rules: http://pastebin.com/m21003a28 can this mean that iptables is blocking the DHCP reqs?
[09:04] <llml> Trolly: ?
[09:04] <kiaas_> jefimenko, if x died, all of it is closed
[09:04] <Berzerker> lol
[09:04] <jefimenko> kiaas_: i don't think X died
[09:04] <kust0m> jefimenko: erf..uhm..so basically x is running but the decorations are gone? or?
[09:04] <Trolly> lalalala
[09:04] <Gnea> !offtopic | Trolly
[09:04] <kust0m> jefimenko: like the gnome panel and whatnot
[09:04] <Trolly> i was born in grevenbroich!
[09:04] <jefimenko> kust0m: no, i don't see X at all, rather I see the startup service messages
[09:04] <Berzerker> Gnea, I really don't think that's having any effect.
[09:04] <Trolly> was erzählt ihr denn da alle?
[09:04] <Gnea> Trolly: we don't care. do you have a question?
[09:05] <llml> lstarnes, Gnea: thank you all!
[09:05] <jefimenko> kust0m: i.e. "* Reloading Common Unix Printing System: cupsd", etc.
[09:05] <Paavi2_0> !de | Trolly
[09:05] <jefimenko> kust0m: it's a bare terminal like before gdm/X starts
[09:05] <Trolly> hä? ob ich was zum qustionen hab? aber sicher!
[09:05] <Berzerker> Paavi2_0, win.
[09:05] <oldude67> !op | trolly  no english off topic
[09:05] <kust0m> jefimenko: i think theres a way to drop to a term and leave x running, but i don't recall what it is..did you hit alt and a function key maybe?
[09:05] <Gnea> Trolly: please /join #ubuntu-de
[09:05]  * fluurp facepalm
[09:06] <Trolly> ach, ihr seid mir auch amaranths!
[09:06] <Trolly> wer ist ChanServ?
[09:06] <kust0m> Trolly: buh bye.
[09:06] <jefimenko> kust0m: no, it happened when trying to switch users
[09:06] <SIM22EVD> Is it possible to have some help with Installing Firefpx
[09:06] <SIM22EVD> *firefox
[09:06] <Gnea> SIM22EVD: only if you ask the question
[09:06] <Berzerker> ctrl+alt+F1 should leave X running, but drop to a terminal
[09:07] <nitjas> llml: why dont you create two separate scripts. one for su and the other non-su commands?
[09:07] <Berzerker> did for me anyway
[09:07] <jefimenko> kiaas_: "ps ax | grep X" returns a row like this: 8236 tty7     Ss+  631:22 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
[09:07] <jefimenko> kiaas_: so i think it's still running
[09:07] <llml> nitjas: they are interlaced
[09:07] <SIM22EVD> How can I install Firefox 3.5.2 after downloading the files and extracting them
[09:07] <gauravkittz> neone have aspire one with them
[09:07] <Berzerker> SIM22EVD, sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:08] <llml> Gnea, lstarnes: one more question, sudo without -S provided is not reading its password from stdin, is it?
[09:08] <Gnea> SIM22EVD: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[09:08] <kust0m> jefimenko: i have no clue..i'm not entirely sure what happens when you switch users on ubuntu
[09:08] <gauravkittz> aspire one
[09:08] <llml> then where the hell does it read from?
[09:08] <SIM22EVD> where do I get sudo apt
[09:08] <lstarnes> llml: no.  It is reading directly from the terminal device
[09:08] <Berzerker> gauravkittz, no, but if you're asking about how well it works, the guide reports it works well. I'm on an HP Mini
[09:08] <Gnea> llml: sudo by itself reads from stdin
[09:08] <lstarnes> SIM22EVD: in a terminal
[09:08] <Gnea> SIM22EVD: in a terminal
[09:08] <Berzerker> SIM22EVD, it's already on your computer. just type that in a terminal.
[09:08] <lstarnes> SIM22EVD: there should be an executable for firefox in the extracted directory that you can run directly
[09:09] <gauravkittz> @Berzerker i'm satisfied with ubuntu... just wanted to know about sidux
[09:09] <gauravkittz> what is it??
[09:09] <MadGirl> somebody said it was showing all errors or that emerge -uDNvt @system @world does bring up (brought) up packages... but it seems maybe not all of them .... or it is a recent problem or a problem because we usually assume you are working from a root terminal, unless we tell you to logout of the root terminal
[09:09] <Berzerker> gauravkittz, looks like another deb based linux
[09:09] <Gnea> MadGirl: wrong channel?
[09:10] <llml> lstarnes: yeah, man page says so, i can't tell the difference between stdin and a terminal device when stdin is the terminal input device
[09:10] <Berzerker> gauravkittz, with KDE
[09:10] <gauravkittz> ya it is... i'v heard it runs well on netbooks
[09:10] <gauravkittz> is it true
[09:10] <MadGirl> Gnea: i don't know
[09:10] <Berzerker> gauravkittz, you won't get much better than UNR with a netbook.
[09:10] <Gnea> MadGirl: this is #ubuntu, not #gentoo
[09:10] <MadGirl> Gnea: but this is day two of non sequitors
[09:10] <gauravkittz> ya thats true
[09:10] <lstarnes> llml: what usually happens on the terminal is it captures characters from the keyboard input then feeds them into STDIN
[09:10] <gauravkittz> so u'r using ubuntu on hp
[09:11] <Berzerker> gauravkittz, yes.
[09:11] <lstarnes> llml: sometimes, programs will request to capture directly from the terminal and bypass STDIN
[09:11] <gauravkittz> awsm distro i may say
[09:11] <Gnea> MadGirl: plus, what you said had nothing to do with any current discussion.
[09:11] <llml> lstarnes: so terminal device comes first?
[09:11] <lstarnes> llml: yes
[09:11] <llml> lstarnes: very clear!
[09:11] <llml> lstarnes: thanks a looot!
[09:11] <SIM22EVD> Istarnes: I cannot find an executable file.  Can you help me or guide me through it?
[09:11] <llml> :)
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> gauravkittz: UNR works 100% out of the box on the ZG5 model of the aspire one
[09:12] <malda> hello
[09:12] <malda> i got a problem getting my wireless card to work
[09:12] <lstarnes> SIM22EVD: it's named firefox
[09:12] <gauravkittz> what;;s the boot time
[09:12] <gauravkittz> ??
[09:12] <Berzerker> SIM22EVD, just open a terminal, and type sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[09:12] <lstarnes> SIM22EVD: executable files in linux rarely ever end with .exe
[09:12] <Berzerker> gauravkittz, not too bad. maybe 20-30 seconds, I'm not on a SSD though
[09:13] <mohan_> hi..
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> gauravkittz: erm, < 30 seconds
[09:13] <SIM22EVD> Istarnes: I tried to run it earlier but nothing happened.
[09:13] <gauravkittz> i'm on hdd and gives me around 20 sec max with crunchbang
[09:13] <fluurp> gauravkittz : on my machine its xactly 37 seconds
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> gauravkittz: the SG5 has a platter based HDD too
[09:13] <gauravkittz> only problem is its openbox
[09:13] <mr_lou> growisofs doesn't help. It's also used by Gnomebaker. Despite giving it a -speed=1, it keeps burning at 5.6 or 6.1
[09:13] <gauravkittz> it sux
[09:13] <mr_lou> I simply can't limit the write speed.
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> gauravkittz: if boot time is what gets you off, try xpud
[09:13] <gauravkittz> xpud??
[09:14] <Berzerker> yeah my mom's EeePC has a 16GB SSD. it's faaaast.
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> gauravkittz: boots in 3 seconds on my am2 3000 1Gb ram PATA hdd
[09:14] <gauravkittz> wow
[09:14] <gauravkittz> 3secs awsm
[09:14] <Berzerker> not quite
[09:14] <mohan_> hi
[09:14] <gauravkittz> its debian based is it
[09:14] <Berzerker> it boots windows 7 in about 10 seconds.
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> gauravkittz: its very limited, but hey it boots fast
[09:14] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[09:14] <Berzerker> yay netsplit
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> gauravkittz: no its not debian based
[09:14] <mohan_> my system is freeqing... using ubuntu 9.04 64bit
[09:15] <eyalw> I just pressed Ctrl+x to cut something, and when i pressed ctrl+v in other folder it banished, HELP??? where are my files!
[09:15] <SIM22EVD> Istarnes:  All sorted! Thanks for your help.  :)
[09:15] <mohan_> pls anybody help..
[09:15] <malda> i got a problem getting my wireless card to work
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> eyalw: does f5 bring them back
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> malda: what have you tried?
[09:15] <malda> nothing
[09:16] <gauravkittz> mohan how can i help
[09:16] <DigitalKiwi> ...
[09:16] <malda> i am not that good with unix
[09:16] <malda> prity new
[09:16] <eyalw> ActionParsnip: no : (
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> malda: ok is it internal or usb?
[09:16] <malda> internal
[09:16] <malda> laptop
[09:16] <malda> i tried to enable it in the gui
[09:16] <mohan_> gauravkittz : my system is freezing after working couple of minutes.. :(
[09:16] <malda> but the option seens dissabled
[09:16] <LLStarks> why does gnome-screensaver lack advanced settings for individual screensavers?
[09:16] <eyalw> ActionParsnip: wait, it did, in the destination folder, so what happened?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> malda: ok can you provide the output of lspci
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> malda: use pastebin
[09:16] <malda> yep
[09:16] <gauravkittz> what system you r using
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> eyalw: file browser got confused
[09:17] <mohan_> gauravkittz : opteron 64 quadcore
[09:17] <leaf-sheep> LLStarks: K.I.S.S and I don't stare at screensavers. :P
[09:17] <tehdot> how do I kill X in jaunty. Not restart X, but kill it
[09:17] <eyalw> ActionParsnip: with copy paste :) ?  what do u mean
[09:17] <Threetimes> LLStarks: because gnome-screensaver is made for people who are scared of advanced options. Use x-screensaver.
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> tehdot: log out, log on to command line login, you can then kill the process
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> eyalw: you gave an input to an app and it confused itself
[09:18] <malda> http://pastebin.com/mde5de8
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> eyalw: if it happens again, log a bug
[09:18] <malda> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/mde5de8
[09:18] <eyalw> ActionParsnip: it happened 2 time before
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> malda: ok so its an Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG
[09:18] <Berzerker> is there an app to find the md5 of a file?
[09:19] <malda> yep
[09:19] <cfedde> md5sum
[09:19] <Berzerker> ah.
[09:19] <Dvyjones> Any idea which package g2c.h is in? (Jaunty)
[09:19] <Berzerker> excellent and handy.
[09:19] <malda> ActionParsnip: yep
[09:20] <Threetimes> Hi, I want my scrolllock led to blink on every apache request. I use ledd (ledcontrol), but I don't know how to configure it.
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> malda: try: sudo rmmod -f ipw2200; sudo modprobe ipw2200 bt_coexist=1
[09:20] <tehdot> ActionParsnip, it just restarted x when I tried that
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> tehdot: you need to disable the autologin thing you have enabled
[09:21] <lstarnes> Dvyjones: maybe libg2c0-dev
[09:21] <kkaji`>  Please help me -  http://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139723800
[09:21] <tehdot> ActionParsnip, I don't have autologin enabled, I type user/pass to login
[09:21] <malda> ActionParsnip: not it says in my gui, device not managed
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> tehdot: then reboot and log in to command line rather than the usual gnome session (or whatever yuo use)
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> malda: if you run: sudo iwlist scan    do you see SSIDs?
[09:23] <malda> ActionParsnip, no scan results
[09:23] <malda> but....
[09:23] <mr_lou> Can someone tell me by growisofs ignores my -speed=1 parameter?
[09:23] <mr_lou> *why
[09:23] <Dvyjones> lstarnes: Nope, that package doesn't exist.
[09:24] <malda> ActionParsnip, when i enter those 2 commands it says it is enabled, but in like 5 seconds it goes back to disabled (also disabeling my gui option to enable)
[09:24] <lstarnes> Dvyjones: maybe tex4ht-common
[09:26] <ActionParsnip1> back
[09:26] <Berzerker> forward.
[09:26] <Berzerker> :D
[09:26] <apoleo12> say I was wondering, when I put in alias ls= ls -pl is there a way to have it permament? rather than to put it in every time?
[09:26] <ActionParsnip1> apoleo12: add it in ~/.bashrc
[09:26] <apoleo12> Berzerker: should it be front? lol
[09:26] <apoleo12> ActionParsnip1: ok
[09:26] <Berzerker> apoleo12, either one
[09:27] <syntax> what is cmake in ubuntu?
[09:27] <apoleo12> what does bashrc do? I know its stupid and lazy and you can say it if you dont like lol
[09:28] <lstarnes> apoleo12: it runs when bash starts
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> apoleo12: its a script that configures your bash environment
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> apoleo12: you can add all manner of goodness in there to customise your settings
[09:29] <Berzerker> alias ls='ls -pl'
[09:29] <Berzerker> doesn't work...
[09:29] <Dvyjones> lstarnes: Nope.
[09:29] <Dvyjones> :P
[09:29] <Berzerker> can you not overalias another command with itself?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip1> Berzerker: example/
[09:30] <ActionParsnip1> syntax: its a compiling tool
[09:30] <syntax> o ok
[09:30] <Berzerker> alias ls='ls -pl'
[09:30] <ActionParsnip1> yeah you can do that
[09:31] <Berzerker> doesn't work for me
[09:31] <Berzerker> unless I'm mising a step
[09:31] <error404notfound> anybody who could tell me whats wrong with the usage of duplicity command at http://pastebin.com/m7aafbbe2 ?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> http://cay.la/fauver/.bashrc.html example bashrc file
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> they use "s apparently
[09:34] <Berzerker> ActionParsnip1, still doesn't work, am I missing a step? un #'ed the line, changed it to ls="ls -pl" saved it. anything else?
[09:34] <ActionParsnip1> Berzerker: source ~/.bashrc
[09:34] <apoleo12> Berzerker: maybe its ' not "?
[09:35] <ActionParsnip1> Berzerker: you need to reload the file
[09:35] <ActionParsnip1> Berzerker: that command will do it, or you can close the terminal and reopen it
[09:35] <Berzerker> ah
[09:35] <Threetimes> Hi, I want my scrolllock led to blink on every apache request. I already use ledd (ledcontrol) for other tasks, but I don't know how to configure it for apache.
[09:35] <Berzerker> ActionParsnip1, win.
[09:36]  * apoleo12 looses
[09:36] <WeazelON> Does anyone know how, for the sake of all that is good,  can one use SSL Network Exteneder in Ubuntu ?
[09:36] <lstarnes> WeazelON: what is SSL Network Extender?
[09:36] <Kartagis> !slow
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> haha
[09:36] <WeazelON> SSL Network Extender aka SNX aka Check point VPN through https
[09:36] <krishna_> I want to create A VPN for itshidden.com.. any one help me ?
[09:37] <WeazelON> brb
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> !vpn | krishna_
[09:38] <apoleo12> so now I have added some lines in bashrc but need I wait for the next boot?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip1> apoleo12: no, just run: source ~/.bashrc
[09:38] <ActionParsnip1> apoleo12: or close the terminal and reopen it
[09:38] <ActionParsnip1> apoleo12: linux is designed for maximum uptime so you rarely need to reboot
[09:38] <apoleo12> it says command not found
[09:39] <krishna_> ActionParsnip1, its not gaming
[09:39] <apoleo12> yeah ill close 'em
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> krishna_: its still a vpn though
[09:39] <apoleo12> thats true
[09:39] <apoleo12> except drivers which is my next on agenda
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> apoleo12: the only time you really need to reboot is if you install a new kernel
[09:39] <krishna_> ActionParsnip1, sorry. i sent you pm without persmission
[09:39] <apoleo12> not videodriversa?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> apoleo12: not even for drivers, just load the drivers in
[09:40] <apoleo12> coolies
[09:40] <krishna_> ActionParsnip1, sudo apt-get install pptpd ipx ipxripd this command says packagne not found
[09:40]  * apoleo12 half-smiles
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> krishna_: which isnt found?
[09:40] <krishna_> ActionParsnip1, ipxripd
[09:40] <krishna_> ActionParsnip1, i use jaunty
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> !info ipxripd
[09:41] <krishna_> ActionParsnip1, then that page is outdated ??
[09:41] <apoleo12> that source command is nothing found anywhere... man, info etc
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> krishna_: you will find the guide is outdated instead
[09:41] <Ttarek> hey ubuntos you already know appnr.com ,i want to download the packages to my computer and install it later do i have to download all the files list in the download section of appnr.com ???
[09:41] <Ttarek> then what i need to do after downloading  ?
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> apoleo12: weird
[09:42] <apoleo12> i know wonder why???
[09:42] <Berzerker> I'm an ubunto!
[09:42] <apoleo12> by that sound of it i'm not weird
[09:42] <krishna_> ActionParsnip1, i got this link from the itshidden site ... : http://ubuntu-chronicles.blogspot.com/2009/07/jaunty-vpn-itshiddencom.html /// but the first command asks me to install xubuntu cd and press enter.. i wonder why ?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> Ttarek: most of that stuff is in the standard repos
[09:42] <apoleo12> ActionParsnip1: thanks again
[09:43] <ActionParsnip1> apoleo12: np man
[09:43] <apoleo12> so much to learn ;)
[09:43] <krishna_> ActionParsnip1, where is the network manager of ubuntu ?
[09:44] <Ttarek> Action: I didnot get it
[09:44] <ActionParsnip1> krishna_: on one of the bars, or you can press alt+f2 and type network  see what is suggested
[09:44] <Ttarek> if it is in the standard repos
[09:44] <ActionParsnip1> Ttarek: you dont need that site at all, all the apps you see there are available via synaptic
[09:44] <krishna_> ActionParsnip1, but the vpn tab is greyed out
[09:44] <ActionParsnip1> Ttarek: or apt-get
[09:45] <Ttarek> I Know but I need to download only not instaal
[09:45] <Ttarek> I Know but I need to download only not install
[09:45] <Threetimes> Hi, I want my scrolllock led to blink on every apache request. I already use ledd (ledcontrol) for other tasks, but I don't know how to configure it for apache.
[09:46] <krishna_> ActionParsnip1, all other tabs have "add" active... But in vpn tab its dead... :(
[09:46] <tuxwulf> How to get my networkmanager applet back on my anel if I accidentally removed it?
[09:46] <Ttarek> is this possible throgh synaptic
[09:46] <jefimenko> does anyone know if it's possible to ssh into a box and start a vnc session, attaching it to an existing X session on the remote box?
[09:46] <jefimenko> i can't access my X session on my desktop. i know it's still running and I can ssh into it remotely
[09:47] <krishna_> I need some help for active the "add" in tab of vpn under netweok manager
[09:48] <Ttarek> I need to download the program packages & install later because i didnot have an internet connection
[09:49] <Ttarek> any help
[09:49] <Ttarek> ?
[09:49] <tuxwulf> jefimenko: Isn't it your vnc session that is 'hanging' on that remote box?
[09:50] <jefimenko> tuxwulf: no, i never started a vnc session on that box
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> Ttarek: i gotcha, then it should be ok
[09:50] <kushal_kumaran_> Ttarek: see File -> Generate package download script
[09:50] <jefimenko> tuxwulf: i tried to switch users in gnome, but now it's stuck at the terminal (as if i did ctrl+alt+f1)
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> Ttarek: there is an option for apt-get to download only, you will need to satisfy any dependdancies too
[09:51] <ActionParsnip1> krishna_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-vpnc/+bug/278153
[09:51] <jefimenko> tuxwulf: i had lots of important work open in the X session and I need to access to at least save/recover some stuff
[09:51] <Ttarek> thanks action
[09:51] <tuxwulf> jefimenko: And your VNC ports are configured correctly? Then you can just vnc into that box
[09:51] <jefimenko> tuxwulf: i had never started the VNC server before
[09:52] <jefimenko> tuxwulf: so i was wondering if i could start the vnc server and attach it to that running X session
[09:52] <jefimenko> doing it remotely through ssh
[09:52] <tuxwulf> jefimenko > Well if you can ssh into it then you can start the vnc server from command line
[09:52] <tuxwulf> jefimenko: And then use vnc to get into your session. Not sure if you get into the same session you left open though
[09:53] <tuxwulf> I thought so, based on userid, though
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> tuxwulf: could use x forwarding if ssh is active ;)
[09:54] <pozic> How can I reset the password of my keyring?
[09:54] <pozic> I was not even aware that I was using a keyring in the first place.
[09:54] <pozic> (The gnome keyring)
[09:55] <jefimenko> tuxwulf: that's the important part... i need to get into the same session
[09:55] <tuxwulf> ActionParsnip1: I have heard of that but never needed it... how does that work? With the DISPLAY thing?
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> tuxwulf: when you ssh use: ssh -X user@server
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> tuxwulf: if the client is linux it will have the libs, if its windows, install and run xming
[09:56] <tuxwulf> Well that looks very simple indeed..
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> tuxwulf: you can then launch gui apps and they will appear on the client but be running on the ssh server
[09:56] <psiborg> it won't get you into the same session though
[09:56] <tuxwulf> jefimenko: Did you see that...?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> tuxwulf: x forwarding is default enabled in openssh-server
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> tuxwulf: you wont get the same session as psiborg says, you will run the app as yourself. you only get the app too instead of the entire desktop (which is pretty redundant)
[09:58] <jefimenko> tuxwulf: i saw the part about vnc, yes. but you mentioned that i might not be able to get into the same session this way.
[09:58] <tuxwulf> ActionParsnip1: Ah... but that then means jefimenko is out of luck....
[09:58] <oguncak> hi friends. how can i find out which version of gnome i am using? which term should i check on synaptic?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> tuxwulf: why is the whole desktop required, jefimenko?
[09:59] <fluurp> oguncak wich version?
[09:59] <oguncak> 2.24 or 2.26?
[09:59] <jefimenko> ActionParsnip1: because i had lots of important applications open in the session
[09:59] <obhk__> is there a way to automatically open a fullscreen terminal when ubuntu starts up?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> jefimenko: i see
[09:59] <fluurp> oguncak system info about gnome?
[09:59] <jefimenko> for some reason i can't just press alt+f7 to get Xwindows back
[10:00] <jefimenko> in fact, the keyboard isn't responding at all at this terminal
[10:00] <ActionParsnip1> obhk__: sure, add an entry to your startup stuff
[10:00] <oguncak> yes. i need a sys info about gnome that i am using
[10:00] <jefimenko> if the screen goes to powersave mode and i press a key, then it comes back from powersave mode, but that's all i can do
[10:00] <fluurp> system - info about gnome
[10:00] <ActionParsnip1> oguncak: run any gnome app, then click help -> about gnome
[10:00] <oguncak> ok. thanks
[10:00] <sleepy_cat> can u suggest me some site where i can upload a pic without registering .. like username password etc
[10:00] <obhk__> ActionParsnip1: but I would like it to be full screen, like when F11 is pressed
[10:01] <Iowahc> hello there, how do I upgrade libssl to 0.9.8k?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> obhk__: i'm sure you ccan add extra options to the execution to change its behavior
[10:01] <Iowahc> i downloaded the source and compiled it
[10:01] <Iowahc> ran make install
[10:01] <lstarnes> Iowahc: it is strongly recommended that you use the version packaged with ubuntu
[10:01] <Iowahc> I know, but a program needs it
[10:02] <tuxwulf> jefimenko: Well I am a bit blaning out on this one....
[10:02] <lstarnes> Iowahc: it should be instakked under /usr/local/
[10:02] <tuxwulf> blaning --> blanking
[10:02] <oguncak> when will the upper version for gnome be published? (later than 2.26)??
[10:03] <Iowahc> lstarnes: yeah, but when I run my program it just finds the actual libssl provided by ubuntu
[10:03] <jefimenko> tuxwulf: ok thanks for trying
[10:03] <jefimenko> tuxwulf: hopefully someone can help
[10:03] <lstarnes> Iowahc: I'm not sure what to do in order to fix that
[10:03] <Ranakah> hi. i have ati radeon 1950 pro and linux mint 7 (ubuntu jaunty) with xserver 1.6 and opensource drivers. my question is how can i use dual head with this card?  tnx for answers
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> Iowahc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/googleearth-package/+bug/369471
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> !mint | Ranakah
[10:05] <JDahl> what is the easiest way to permanently mount another partition with full user rights under Ubuntu 9.4 Gnome?
[10:05] <dio_> whats up
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> JDahl: fstab
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> !fstab | JDahl
[10:06] <Iowahc> anyone else has a glue?
[10:06] <Ranakah> ActionParsnip1 i know but is same as ubuntu jaunty
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> Iowahc: you need a symlink
[10:06] <mr_lou> Any alternative to growisofs for burning DVD's?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> Ranakah: maybe but its not an official canonical release so its not officially supported in the official channel
[10:06] <chrisfs> Hi, I'm a newbie,. I just started Ubuntu last week coming from Windows. I'm trying to install Adobe Flash plugin. I went to Applications and clicked on Add and it seems the Flash plugin installer is already installed, but I can't seem to find an icon for it, so that I can run the installer. I figure it's something basic I don't know about  Can someone help tell me what that is ?
[10:07] <dio_> brasero dvd burning is good
[10:07] <Iowahc> How can I check which is the right libssl?
[10:07] <Iowahc> ther is none in /usr/local/lib
[10:07] <sipior> Iowahc: try /usr/lib
[10:07] <oguncak> hi friends. although i set the update manager to receive updates automatically, i can not see the update status icon on the panel. how can i fix that?
[10:08] <mr_lou> dio_, Brasero uses growisofs to burn, as does Gnomebaker and k3b.
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> mr_lou: wodim if you like command line
[10:08] <Iowahc> in /usr/lib/ there is a libssl3.so and a libssl.so.0.9.8 is it the new compiled one?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> Iowahc: its in that guide
[10:08] <lstarnes> Iowahc: look in /usr/local/lib
[10:08] <mr_lou> ActionParsnip1, I thought wodim only supported CD's and not DVD's? I don't particular line commandline, but I'm fine with it when it's the only option.
[10:08] <dio_> ok thanks for info lou
[10:09] <sipior> Iowahc: how did you build libssl? did you provide a prefix to configure?
[10:09] <Iowahc> ActionParsnip1: Which Guide?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip1> Iowahc: the link i pasted
[10:09] <Iowahc> sipior: no, just made configure, make, make install
[10:09] <ActionParsnip1> mr_lou: not sure on that front. i dont burn many disks
[10:09] <Iowahc> ActionParsnip1: sorry, missed the link, where?
[10:09] <oguncak> hi friends. although i set the update manager to receive updates automatically, i can not see the update status icon on the panel. how can i fix that?
[10:10] <sipior> Iowahc: then /usr/local/lib is the most probable default. if it's not there, check the output of make.
[10:10] <mr_lou> ActionParsnip1, Me neither. But thanks. I'll check it out.
[10:10] <Iowahc> sipior: in /usr/local/lib is none. I check the output,. one moment
[10:11] <indus> oguncak: are you using 9.04?
[10:11] <oguncak> yes
[10:11] <indus> oguncak: ok then it wont appear in panel.,they removed that
[10:11] <oguncak> well, it was really useful!!!
[10:11] <oguncak> thanks Indus
[10:12] <indus> oguncak: i know, but the devs have gone nuts with that bug report
[10:12] <indus> oguncak: there is a long bug report on launchpad about this with a lot of comments,there is a way to get that notification back but it doesnt really work,atleast not for me
[10:12] <oguncak> well, will they put it back later?
[10:12] <c0l2e> when I install firefox-3.5 its called shiretoko.. is this corrent?
[10:13] <c0l2e> correct
[10:13] <indus> c0l2e: yes
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> Iowahc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/googleearth-package/+bug/369471  should help
[10:13] <c0l2e> when I use that the search tool is blank..
[10:13] <c0l2e> the bar on the rightside is blank..I mean no default search engines.. how can I set it back to default?
[10:14] <ManDay> Good morning guys. I'm looking for a well-supported (from repos) and LIGHTWEIGHT standalone client for Microsoft's MSN. Please highlight me.
[10:14] <indus> ManDay: pidgin will contact with msn,but no video or voice
[10:15] <barfoos> ManDay: you can use pidgin for this, or if you really love lightweight things you might want to have a look at bitlbee too.
[10:15] <ManDay> That's just fine with me. I'll take a look at bitlbee first, then.
[10:15] <ManDay> Thank you very much.
[10:15] <indus> ManDay: amsn from repos will give you webcam but no sound
[10:15] <barfoos> ManDay: there's been another one i can't recall the name of that also supports cam and stuff.
[10:15] <WeazelON> or just wait til Digsby comes to linux
[10:15] <ManDay> No, no need for camera. Just the chat
[10:16] <barfoos> ManDay: have a look at pidgin and see if it fits your needs since it's probably the easiest to use client
[10:16] <indus> ManDay: then applications>internet>pidgin will connect with all protocols
[10:16] <ManDay> barfoos, my priority is really lightweightness. I care less about assessibility
[10:17] <leaf-sheep> WeazelON: http://forum.digsby.com/viewtopic.php?id=381
[10:17] <chrisfs> Hi, I'm a newbie,. I just started Ubuntu last week coming from Windows. I'm trying to install Adobe Flash plugin. I went to Applications and clicked on Add and it seems the Flash plugin installer is already installed, but I can't seem to find an icon for it, so that I can run the installer. I figure it's something basic I don't know about  Can someone help tell me what that is ?
[10:17] <ManDay> After all, it would be great to have a client which is at the same time lightweight and supports the full set of features such as cam and sound. But I reckon such thing doesn't exist?
[10:18] <indus> chrisfs: hi when you try to watch a video on youtube what happens
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> !find flashplugin
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> chrisfs: sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:18] <luyi> HEY.all
[10:18] <WeazelON> leaf-sheep:  yea but wine is crap, digsby said that they are going to release a version for linux very soon.
[10:18] <chrisfs> Indus: It's slower than it was on this same pc under windows. It stops midway. Sometimes the audio starts before the video.
[10:18] <ManDay> barfoos, I've just taken a quick look at bitlbee and it appears to be some sort of gaetway to forward messeges from and to IRC. Is that really wwhat I wantß
[10:18] <ManDay> ?
[10:18] <dev_> hi
[10:19] <luyi> 这里讲中文吗？
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> WeazelON: are you using the one on the wine repo?
[10:19] <leaf-sheep> chrisfs: I'm teaching you how to install a package. Open the terminal.  "aptitude search flash" to get a list of packages relating to "flash" then "sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree" :>
[10:19] <chrisfs> Inuds :stops and then loads some more and starts again, but is jumpy
[10:19] <indus> chrisfs: well,that looks like a flash issue, what version of the plugin are u using
[10:19] <psiborg> ubuntu ships with one of the opensource flash versions?
[10:19] <chrisfs> right now swfdeck .082? sound right ?
[10:19] <leaf-sheep> WeazelON: I see. I'm using Pidgin. Works great for me. :)
[10:19] <comp4> hiiii
[10:19] <krishna_> If i  try to install somethign from synaptic.. it asks for a cd rom of xubuntu 8.10.. why is that so ?
[10:19] <indus> chrisfs: what is your internet speed
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> leaf-sheep: pidgin here also
[10:20] <barfoos> ManDay: it is not, but since it may run on any server you have access to, accessible with any irc client you don't even need X for, it maybe is something that can get your appetite since it is so lightweight that you only would have to run an ssh session to the machine your "irc" client runs on which connects to that bitlbee thing.
[10:20] <ManDay> barfoos, I'd be great if you could remember the name of the client which supports Camera and Sound, too - jus tfor knowing
[10:20] <leaf-sheep> krishna_: You might have removable source enabled in Software Sources.
[10:20] <indus> chrisfs: thats not adobe flash, you are using swdef
[10:20] <crzedmonk> anyone in here know why flash sucks so bad with ubuntu?
[10:20] <chrisfs> One of the slower DSL packages,
[10:20] <ManDay> barfoos, I hear you. Good point. I'll think about it.
[10:20] <WeazelON> yea well for now pidgin is the option.
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> crzedmonk: its proprietary
[10:20] <indus> chrisfs: try this in terminal  sudo update-alternatives --config -flash
[10:20] <barfoos> ManDay: i think it was "amsn", but not sure.
[10:20] <syntax> leaf i learned something new as well
[10:20] <leaf-sheep> krishna_: Check Software Sources and untoggle anything under "Installable from CD-ROM/DVD"
[10:20] <chrisfs> Yes, I know I was trying to install adobe to see if it works better and can;'t figure out how
[10:20] <crzedmonk> any way to fix it
[10:21] <crzedmonk> I heart youtube
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> crzedmonk: bother adobe
[10:21] <chrisfs> ok thanks
[10:21] <ManDay> barfoos, you just asserted that amsn doesnt support sound?
[10:21] <dev_> I want to check the history of operations that I have performed through gui. how?
[10:21] <barfoos> ManDay: i didn't say that.
[10:21] <indus> ActionParsnip1: its a problem with mozilla too,dont blame flash alone
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> crzedmonk: it cant be improved by the community so adobe have to make it better
[10:21] <crzedmonk> it there another flash player that is availible
[10:21] <indus> ActionParsnip1: mozilla dont know it themselves
[10:21] <crzedmonk> or am I to be flash less
[10:21] <ManDay> barfoos, I'm sorry, indus said that amsn doesnt support sound.
[10:22] <chrisfs> crzedmonk: I am having flash probs, scroll back and look at indus advice to me
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> crzedmonk: what is the output of: uname -a
[10:22] <barfoos> ManDay: that's not correct - it supports cam and sound and such.
[10:22] <jefimenko> kiaas_, kust0m, tuxwulf, ActionParsnip1: thanks for trying to help. the real solution was to ssh to the box and run "chvt 7" as root
[10:22] <ManDay> That's great news. I'll try them both. bitlbee and amsn
[10:22] <ManDay> Thank you guys.
[10:22] <crzedmonk> Linux Lintron 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> jefimenko: nice
[10:22] <indus> chrisfs: can u open synaptic package manager and search for a package named swdef
[10:22] <jefimenko> one of the guys in #xorg told me
[10:23] <chrisfs> Indus: I got "No alternatives for -flash."  when I typed what you gave me
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> crzedmonk: ok then its 32bit.
[10:23] <jefimenko> just thought i'd let you know
[10:23] <jefimenko> might come in handy if it ever happens to you ;)
[10:23] <crzedmonk> yes sir
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> crzedmonk: sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-installer
[10:24] <crzedmonk> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-installer
[10:24] <dev_> Does anybody know how to check history of gui operations?
[10:24] <indus> crzedmonk: try adobe-flashplugin
[10:25] <indus> chrisfs: have u searched ?
[10:25] <leaf-sheep> ActionParsnip1: Last time I helped somebody with flashplugin-installer -- it doesn't work at all.  Use flashplugin-nonfree instead and it worked for the said person.
[10:25] <crzedmonk> E: Couldn't find package adobe-flashplugin-installer
[10:25] <chrisfs> Indus: when I use synaptic, I can't find swdef, but when I search for swf I get swfdec-mozilla and swfdec-gnome
[10:25] <indus> crzedmonk: package nameis  adobe-flashplugin
[10:25] <ActionParsnip1> leaf-sheep: i always download the .so manually, so much easier
[10:25] <crzedmonk> oh
[10:25] <crzedmonk> ;p;
[10:26] <crzedmonk> lol
[10:26] <leaf-sheep> ActionParsnip1: Me too. :P
[10:26] <indus> chrisfs: remove swfdec-mozilla
[10:26] <ManDay> barfoos, perfect! Just installed it without any problems (one of the few times installing and running something works without problems). Great job!
[10:26] <chrisfs> removing swfdec-mozilla
[10:26] <indus> chrisfs: wait 1 sec
[10:27] <krishna_> I have nothing enabled inside "installable from cd/dvd" in software sources.... but whrn i do apt-get ,. it says insert xubuntu cd and press enter... help me plz
[10:27] <crzedmonk> Reinstallation of adobe-flashplugin is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[10:27] <crzedmonk> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support
[10:27] <indus> chrisfs: remove swfdec-mozilla and swf-gnome both
[10:27] <indus> crzedmonk: ok cool
[10:28] <indus> crzedmonk: open synaptic package manager
[10:28] <Boz> hi all
[10:28] <chrisfs> Indus: both are removed now
[10:28] <indus> crzedmonk: search for package flashplugin-nonfree
[10:28] <krishna_> Boz, /Hi
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> chrisfs: mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins; cd ~/.mozilla/plugins; wget http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz; tar zxvf ./install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz; rm ./install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz
[10:28] <indus> chrisfs: now search for adobe-flashplugin and install it
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> chrisfs: copy all that to a terminal and run it, you will then have flash
[10:28] <krishna_> I have nothing enabled inside "installable from cd/dvd" in software sources.... but whrn i do apt-get ,. it says insert xubuntu cd and press enter... help me plz
[10:28] <crzedmonk> ok
[10:29] <crzedmonk> should I reinstall it there?
[10:29] <indus> crzedmonk: yes
[10:29] <Boz> I'm attempting to make a directory for some codecs and can't
[10:29] <Boz> I get the following msg
[10:29] <Boz> kdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/lib/codecs/': Permission denied
[10:29] <comp3> #malang
[10:29] <leaf-sheep> Boz: Use sudo.
[10:29] <indus> Boz you need to use sudo mkdir
[10:29] <comp3> j malang
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> Boz: ok if you cn detail exactly the steps you are taking we may be able to advise
[10:30] <DJones> comp3 its "/join #malang" without the "'s
[10:31] <Boz> looks like that worked thanks
[10:31] <anr78> is there a trigger for checking the version of a package in jaunty?
[10:31] <chrisfs> Indus adobe-flashplugin doesn't appear  flashplugin-installer appears and is already installed , flashplugin-nonfree is not
[10:32] <ar10> anr78, apt-cache policy 'packagename'
[10:32] <indus> chrisfs: ok install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:32] <crzedmonk> http request sent, awaiting response.......404 not found.
[10:32] <chrisfs> Actionparship1: copied the commands, trying applicaiton first but will try that if this doesn't pan out
[10:32] <crzedmonk> dl failed
[10:32] <crzedmonk> plugin not installed
[10:32] <crzedmonk> is the details of the thing
[10:32] <crzedmonk> meanwhile the box says changes applied
[10:32] <ManDay> I got an EEE Pc on which I installed the vanilla ubuntu (not the netbook-edition). Since then I'vent tried out my webcam since there are no programs for it pre-installed. I now want to try it out and at the same time get myself a good program for the webcam. Can you recomment anything. It should offer quite some features but should not be too demanding for the hardware. Maybe a record function and setting values such as brightness etc. so they
[10:32] <ManDay>  get stored and I dont have to reset them everythime. any recommendations?
[10:32] <crzedmonk> flash still does not work
[10:33] <chrisfs> Inuds: ok it's installed
[10:33] <anr78> ar10: thanks
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: sudo apt-get install cheese
[10:33] <indus> chrisfs: now close firefox reopen,clear cache then play a video
[10:33] <ManDay> ActionParsnip, I'll check it out, thank you!
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: are you running 32bit Ubuntu?
[10:34] <CppIsWeird> has anyone here use an IBM LCM?
[10:34] <indus> ActionParsnip: yes he gave u uname -a i think
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> indus: its been a long day :(
[10:34] <crzedmonk> how do I tell
[10:34] <indus> ActionParsnip: hey get some rest, ill take over a little:)
[10:34] <crzedmonk> I thought I dled 32
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: did you run that big script i hacked out earlier?
[10:34] <crzedmonk> yeah
[10:35] <crzedmonk> Ubuntu 8.04
[10:35] <ManDay> ActionParsnip, does "Cheese" feature setting permanent adjustments for the webcam?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: anddid a file download?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: not sure i dont use webcams, too creepy
[10:35] <crzedmonk>                 no
[10:35] <indus> crzedmonk: when you type uname -a in terminal does it anywher mention x86_64 in the output
[10:35] <ManDay> Haha.
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: i know it can test if its working
[10:35] <ManDay> ActionParsnip, creepy, why that?
[10:35] <crzedmonk> crzedmonk@Lintron:~$ uname -a
[10:35] <crzedmonk> Linux Lintron 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:36] <indus> crzedmonk: ook 32 bit
[10:36] <chrisfs> Indus: works much much better. Played the same video I was having trouble with earlier today and it runs quite smoothly now. Many Many Thanks !
[10:36] <indus> all right then :))!
[10:36] <crzedmonk> i686 = 32 right
[10:36] <indus> crzedmonk: so lets solve your problem now
[10:36] <ar10> ManDay, I remember one of the webcam programs supported various visual adjustments, it could be cheese or camorama.
[10:36] <crzedmonk> ok
[10:36] <crzedmonk> YAAY
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: just prefer text, i'm old school. plus you get the whole cybersex nonesense and whatnot
[10:36] <crzedmonk> I hate problems
[10:36] <chrisfs> Thank You Ubuntu gurus, I'm going to bed now
[10:36] <ar10> Or both :-P
[10:37] <indus> crzedmonk: what exactly is your issue
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: download this file to ~/.mozilla/plugins     http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz
[10:37] <indus> chrisfs: good night
[10:37] <Threetimes> Hi, how do I execute a command when the size of a file changes?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Threetimes: you could install tripwire
[10:38] <Moose> LOLZ UBUNTU ROX!
[10:38]  * Moose waves to lstarnes
[10:38] <Threetimes> ActionParsnip: will this monitor the file size live or on intervals?
[10:38] <crzedmonk> how do you show hidden files in terminal?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Threetimes: i think its live, it watches for changes, i think you can tell it to watch only for filesize changes
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: ls -a
[10:39] <Twinkletoes> Where can I learn how to write an init script?
[10:39] <indus> crzedmonk: ls -al
[10:39] <crzedmonk> thank you
[10:40] <crzedmonk> mozilla has extensions and firefox not plug in
[10:40] <crzedmonk> firefox has a plug in reg but no file directory
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: firefox uses the .mozilal folder for settings
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: the plugins directory needs creating in ~/.mozilla
[10:41] <crzedmonk> ok
[10:41] <indus> ActionParsnip: thats not the recommended procedure,shouldnt it be /usr/lib/ozilla/plugins
[10:41] <WeazelON> Chromium Rox on ubuntu
[10:41] <indus> ActionParsnip: system wide i mean
[10:41] <indus> !info chromium
[10:41] <indus> bah
[10:41] <WeazelON> thats not true
[10:41] <crzedmonk> ok
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> indus: you can install it on a per user basis in ~ if you like, you'll find most home users only have 1 user so it works fine, but for system wide you are right
[10:42] <crzedmonk> now what?
[10:42] <WeazelON> chromium is Google-Chrome in Ubuntu
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: tar zxvf the file you moved
[10:42] <WeazelON> frickin fast, though its still in dev mode
[10:42] <ManDay> I've installed amsn but apparently there is no sound being transmitted when I "Send webcam", anyone knows why?
[10:42] <crzedmonk> libflashplayer.so
[10:42] <indus> ActionParsnip: is crzedmonk's problem solved now? what was his problem exactly?
[10:42] <WeazelON> aMsn doesnt have video last i checked
[10:43] <indus> ManDay: i told you, amsn dosnt support sound
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> WeazelON: firepup is fast too, as is Kazehakase
[10:43] <ManDay> indus, barfoos however claimed that amsn does support sound
[10:43] <WeazelON> but not as beautiful/awesome as the chrome :D
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> indus: flash
[10:43] <indus> ManDay: its incorrect,sound for msn not implemented yet
[10:43] <Threetimes> WeazelON: Opera is fast
[10:43] <ManDay> indus, ok thanks, can you think of a client which DOES support sound then?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> WeazelON: not bothered for beautiful, i always use liquifox theme
[10:43] <WeazelON> they just implemented the themes feature in chromium
[10:44] <indus> ManDay: skype does, and it does very well
[10:44] <WeazelON> yuck.,,
[10:44] <indus> ManDay: and suports video too
[10:44] <ManDay> indus, I thought of an MSN client
[10:44] <sipior> Threetimes: this might be useful to you, regarding your earlier question: http://inotify-tools.sourceforge.net/
[10:44] <ManDay> Yes, I know skype :P
[10:44] <indus> ManDay: no none i know of
[10:44] <ManDay> Ok, thanks then
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> WeazelON: max screen space :) plus small menu plus rearrange bars for lotsa space
[10:44] <ManDay> Is skyke supported by the repos?
[10:44] <Slart> !skype | ManDay
[10:45] <ManDay> thanks
[10:45] <WeazelON> ActionParsnip: there is no browser i've seen that has a full screen like chromium, its just the page in fullscreen
[10:45] <indus> ManDay: empathy is a recent client which promises video and voice for linux
[10:45] <Slart> ManDay: not sure if it's in medibuntu or in the regular repos though..
[10:45] <indus> ManDay: yes its there in the partner repos
[10:45] <ManDay> What kind of protocols is empathy for?
[10:45] <Slart> indus: isn't empathy going to be the default client in karmic? I think I read something about that somewhere
[10:45] <indus> Slart: yeah already using karmic so hehe yes
[10:45] <Slart> ManDay: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy_(software)
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> WeazelON: IE is ok in F11 fullscreen. I use opera personally
[10:46] <Slart> ManDay: sounds like it will handle lots of stuff
[10:46] <ManDay> thanks
[10:46] <indus> Slart: but voice video support not yet there, i heard it works with google talk but i couldnt get it to work
[10:46] <WeazelON> ActionParsnip: dude, if fullscreen is your bag, you should really check the fullscreen there
[10:46] <WeazelON> ActionParsnip: in Chromium that is of course
[10:46] <Slart> indus: ah.. think I'll have to give karmic a try.. just to see what they are up to.. thanks
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> WeazelON: i dont use alpha software
[10:46] <indus> ManDay: it supports all protocols for chat
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> WeazelON: never have, never will
[10:46] <lianimator> Hi, This is the 2nd time in three days my system has restarted X by itself. It's as if I hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace.. but I did not! [ubuntu 8.10]
[10:47] <indus> Slart: its alpha mind it, lots of things missing
[10:47] <Slart> indus: yup.. thanks for the warning
[10:48] <indus> Slart: but its running 'ok' for me ,might have gdm issues, sound crackle etc
[10:48] <WeazelON> ActionParsnip: welp,  when it'll be finally released, you will have the privilege to witness real speed.
[10:48] <indus> Slart: alpha 4 is out 2 days then maybe u try>?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> WeazelON: i'll try it out, its free to try ;)
[10:48] <indus> ActionParsnip: which one?
[10:48] <MadGirl> well, which one is it blaise?
[10:48] <Slart> indus: I'll wait for that then..
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> WeazelON: if you want speed, try LXDE :D
[10:49] <indus> ActionParsnip: i want the fastest browser. which one u recommend
[10:49] <indus> ActionParsnip: scrollling should be butter smooth
[10:49] <WeazelON> ActionParsnip: maybe i will, but currently i'm too excited to switch browsers :D
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> indus: firepup, kazehakase, swiftfox
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> WeazelON: its a DE, not a browser
[10:50] <mr_lou> ActionParsnip, Well, dunno if you're interested or not, but it seems that the burning issue is a Linux issue. Both wodim and growisofs ignores the speed parameter for some reason, and since most burning apps use one of those, you simply can't force a certain speed. My girlfriends computer is identical to mine, except she's running WinXP, and there are no problems there.
[10:50] <indus> ActionParsnip: are these webkit based?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> indus: all gecko based
[10:50] <mr_lou> ActionParsnip, There are many posts on various forums about it.
[10:50] <crzedmonk> ok I tar the file do I need to do anything with the libflashplayer.so?
[10:50] <WeazelON> Does anyone know how, for the sake of all that is good,  can one use SSL Network Exteneder in Ubuntu ?
[10:50] <crzedmonk> my stuff is still not working
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: make sure it is in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[10:51] <indus> crzedmonk: mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> mr_lou: thats because XP has billions of dollars plowed into it, Linux doesnt have that
[10:51] <crzedmonk> crzedmonk@Lintron:~/.mozilla/plugins$ ls
[10:51] <crzedmonk> install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz  libflashplayer.so
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> mr_lou: also linux is a different OS to windows so will have different quirks
[10:51] <mikejones> lol has anybody found a way to play netflix movies under ubuntu ?????
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: rm ./install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: then close all firefoxes and then open: http://www.rathergood.com/blode2
[10:53] <ManDay> Concerning ekiga, are there any other casual programs (esp. on Windows, freeware) which support the same protocols as Ekiga?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Windows_Users
[10:53] <crzedmonk> YAAY
[10:53] <crzedmonk> IT works
[10:53] <crzedmonk> thank you
[10:53] <sluurp> kphone mabye
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: np man, i never use the repo way
[10:54] <crzedmonk> I owe you a geek binary blood debt
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: i think it flat out sucks and have a script of my own to do what you just did
[10:54] <crzedmonk> yeah
[10:54] <mikejones> why cant i play online netflix movies on ubuntu?
[10:54] <crzedmonk> I am trying to get better at terminal
[10:54] <ManDay> ActionParsnip, thanks.
[10:54] <crzedmonk> I am new to linux
[10:54] <crzedmonk> vista was my final straw
[10:54] <crzedmonk> so I came to linux
[10:54] <crzedmonk> but I know littler terminal
[10:54] <crzedmonk> so I try to learn by doing
[10:55] <mocas> hi there
[10:55] <meglo> Can you just use any SIP client with an Ekiga.net account?
[10:55] <mocas> does ubuntu 9.0.4 support LVM?
[10:55] <Slart> !lvm | mocas
[10:55] <Slart> mocas: but in short.. yes
[10:55] <ManDay> ActionParsnip, any idea why it depends on a package called "libgdata-google"?
[10:55] <mocas> thks
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: as you use it you will learn
[10:56] <bullgard> [Ubuntu 8.04.3, nm-applet 0.6.6] What might be the reason that '~$ route' does not show a "Destination=link-local" entry?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: not sure, if you add the meibuntu repo it should be ok but i have no clue
[10:56] <ar10> mikejones, this may be of interest to you : http://www.petitiononline.com/Linflix/petition.html
[10:56] <crzedmonk> I hope so
[10:56] <crzedmonk> seems way better than dos
[10:56] <crzedmonk> makes more sense
[10:56] <crzedmonk> like ls
[10:56] <crzedmonk> and rm
[10:56] <FloodBot2> crzedmonk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:57] <ManDay> ActionParsnip, i just dislike it if a package depends on other weird packages of which I dont have a clue what they are good for. And especially "google" makes me suspicious.
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: its far more powerful than dos
[10:57] <mikejones> yo thanks ar1o
[10:57] <crzedmonk> seems like it
[10:58] <crzedmonk> is ubuntu the best distro in your opinion
[10:58] <crzedmonk> ?
[10:58] <WeazelON> 9.04 imo
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: not in my opinion, no
[10:58] <lstarnes> crzedmonk: asking in this channel will give you an answer biased towards ubuntu
[10:58] <Kartagis> hello. even though I have bound Lock Screen to F12, it doesn't work. how could that happen?
[10:58] <lstarnes> crzedmonk: ##linux is a more general channel for all linux distributions.  Try asking there
[10:58] <WeazelON> crzedmonk: i guess u can call ubuntu the most user friendly one i think
[10:59] <crzedmonk> I would think so that is why I chose it
[10:59] <mocas> Slart, it's because I wan't to fsck a filesystem inside lvm but I just found sda on /dev :(
[10:59] <crzedmonk> what are some need to have apps for ubuntu?
[10:59] <indus> i think the users are more friendly than the OS itself
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: its a tool for a job, each distro has an aim so i choose the distro that suits the job of the system
[10:59] <pirinto> How do you set permissions for which users to get to use a scanner in Jaunty since they removed the 'scanner' group?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: so imho there is no best distro
[11:00] <Slart> mocas: hmm.. not really sure where the lvm file systems end up.. there's nothing in the docs about that?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> pirinto: tried creating the scanner group yourself?
[11:00] <Slart> mocas: nothing in /dev/LV/ ?
[11:01] <mocas> don't exist /dev/LV
[11:01] <Slart> mocas: or run "sudo lvdisplay".. that might tell you where the volumes are located
[11:02] <Pranky> How to find username and password in ubuntu
[11:02] <crzedmonk> hmmm
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Pranky: can you expand please
[11:02] <Slart> Pranky: username by running "whoami".. passwords can be reset.. hopefully not recovered
[11:02] <crzedmonk> well I guess I will just have to figure it out as I go
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: indeed, just as you did with Windows
[11:02] <crzedmonk> I am using irssi is that good for irc?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: seems to be working ok
[11:03] <crzedmonk> yeah
[11:03] <Slart> crzedmonk: I like it
[11:03] <Pranky> Slart, all these command from safe mode
[11:03] <crzedmonk> I used to use bitchx
[11:03] <chrisellis> any of yall have uverse?
[11:03] <crzedmonk> this seems to work good
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: if you like it, then use it
[11:03] <crzedmonk> YAAY FreedOM!
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> !irc | crzedmonk
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: there are tonnes of irc clients available
[11:04] <Pranky> ActionParsnip, I am install ubuntu 9.04 from Vmplayer.
[11:04] <Pranky> ActionParsnip, but I am not able to get username and password
[11:04] <Slart> Pranky: hmm.. try this then "
[11:04] <Slart> cat /etc/passwd | grep 1000
[11:04] <Slart> Pranky: sorry for the extra line.. copy/paste isn't agreeing with me this morning
[11:04] <pirinto> ActionParsnip: I don't think it's necessary to create the group, one user is able to scan besides root, others cannot so it's not grouprelated anymore
[11:05] <leaf-sheep> !info zsnes
[11:05] <leaf-sheep> I don't see znes in my Jaunty amd64 repo. :3
[11:05] <leaf-sheep> zsnes*
[11:05] <Pranky> Slart, How to reset password
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: you can install ia32-libs and run 32bit packages
[11:05] <Slart> Pranky: passwd with some switch
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: you will need some 32bit deps for it
[11:05] <mocas> lvdisplay, display the file sistem
[11:06] <mocas> but when I try to fsck
[11:06] <mocas> it says that device not exist
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: or you can try find a ppa with a 64bit version on, compile it yourself or find an alternative
[11:06] <leaf-sheep> ActionParsnip: So it did not show up on the repo because I don't have the ia32-libs? It said it's available for amd64 too.
[11:06] <Slart> Pranky: passwd <USERNAME>    should work, I think
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: its not available on the standard repo for 64bit
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: afaik
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: you can download the .deb for the 32bit one and install it, it will run provided you have ia32-libs installed
[11:07] <Slart> mocas: near the top it should say where the lvm volume device is located.. something like /dev/blablabla/blabla
[11:07] <Slart> mocas: make sure you spell it correctly.. use TAB to autocomplete
[11:07] <leaf-sheep> ActionParsnip: Trying it now.
[11:08] <mocas> it's what I am saying... lvdisplay shows the folder, but inside /dev don't exist anything
[11:08] <mocas> maybe my ubuntu don't support logical volumes :S
[11:08] <Pvpeter> Hello! is there any way I can make a complete backup to my linux partition to my windows partition? I need to reformat it to change the inode size...
[11:09] <Slart> mocas: hmm.. and lvm is running alright?
[11:09] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 8.04.3, nm-applet 0.6.6] What might be the reason that '~$ route' does not show a "Destination=link-local" entry?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> !backup > Pvpeter
[11:09] <Slart> mocas: can you pastebin the output from "sudo lvdisplay" ?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Pvpeter: could also use partimage
[11:09] <Pvpeter> Actionparsnip: Thanks
[11:10] <Slart> !pastebin | mocas
[11:11] <mocas> Slart, http://pastebin.com/m2f15d7f3
[11:11] <leaf-sheep> ActionParsnip: Do I need to do --force-arch for ia32-libs?
[11:12] <Slart> mocas: and /dev/VolGroup00 doesn't exist? make sure you use capital letters where needed
[11:12] <cantoma> guys, I have an eps graph figure that i need to edit (add text, arrows ...) what is the best program for doing this?
[11:12] <eidos> does anyone know if the kworld 120 tvcard is going to be supported soon
[11:12] <Slart> cantoma: inkscape?
[11:12] <mocas> I'm sure that don't exist
[11:12] <Slart> !info inkscape | cantoma
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: no, sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: you will need to force-arch for the 32bit deb for zsnes though
[11:12] <cantoma> Slart, so you recommend that one?!
[11:12] <Slart> mocas: hmm.. then I don't really know what to do.. sorry
[11:13] <Slart> cantoma: it's what I use to touch up eps graphs.. that and a text editor
[11:14] <cantoma> Slart, i just need to make some boxes and some arrows with text to explain my idea
[11:14] <garymc> Hi im installed Ubuntu Alternate for LTSP, i need to place desktop launchers so all new users log in and have them on their desktops. Im having some difficulty doing this. Any one able to talk me through this?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: personally i'd compile it so it matches your 64bit OS
[11:14] <dcorking> it defies logic (or rather it defies my mental model): where aptitude failed and tried to download non-existent builds from the mirror, synaptic has found the latest jaunty builds on the security repo.  I live and learn.
[11:14] <eidos> does anyone know my my tvcard works only in digital HD on mythtv but does not work on any other program i am trying to get the composite input to work
[11:14] <Slart> cantoma: create from scratch? or you have an eps file you want to edit?
[11:14] <cantoma> Slart, i generate it from octave
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> dcorking: i've had people saying synaptic cant find some packages but apt-get can
[11:14] <cantoma> Slart, or matlab (the same)
[11:15] <Slart> cantoma: well.. you can use octave to make boxes and arrows..
[11:15] <dcorking> ActionParsnip: I blame cosmic rays
[11:15] <cantoma> Slart, i also need to put one graph inside the other .. is for a poster
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> dcorking: i just stik to apt-get :)
[11:16] <cantoma> Slart, is like in the corner of one graph it will be another which is what i want to achieve
[11:16] <cantoma> Slart, i am shore i cannot do this with octave
[11:16] <Slart> cantoma: it can be done using matlab at least..
[11:17] <Slart> cantoma: another thing.. I just fired up inkscape just now.. seems I just get an error message when I try to open an eps file.. not really sure if I've updated someting since I used it
[11:17] <dcorking> aptitude has always worked for me, until today - I used it ever since apt-get was deprecated by Debian
[11:17] <GnuSeb> hello there, I'm thinking of installing ubuntu on my new laptop compaq presario cq40 laptop, i ran out of discs to burn but i have a flash drive, can i use the netbook remix one?
[11:17] <richardcavell> dcorking: apt-get has been deprecated?
[11:17] <Kartagis> hello. even though I have bound Lock Screen to F12, it doesn't work. how could that happen?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: no
[11:18] <cantoma> Slart, must programs have that problem .. they don't open eps
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: its used in ubuntu
[11:18] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: I know it is
[11:19] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: What's wrong with it?
[11:19] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: [rhetorical question]
[11:19] <kapil> GnuSeb: the netbook remix installs a different GUI from the usual ubuntu default.
[11:19] <cantoma> Slart, so what would you use for eps editing?
[11:20] <GnuSeb> kapil: what does that mean?
[11:20] <leaf-sheep> richardcavell: Nothing. I'd say.  It's... different package manager. :3
[11:20] <GnuSeb> I can't?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: its awesome [ironic answer]
[11:20] <kapil> you can but it will look different from "classic" ubuntu
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> kapil: it also has a few different settings for apps suitable for netbook screens
[11:20] <Slart> cantoma: hang on.. I'm trying to find out what I have been using
[11:21] <kapil> i use ubuntu netbook remix on my acer aspire one and it works fine but ymmv.
[11:21] <nomike> hi
[11:21] <E_L_K_> hello. i have a problem with running 9.04 ubuntu on compaq evo n800c notebook with ati mobility radeon 7500 video card. Xorg just hangs after start and no keyboard/mouse works. have tried radeon,ati and vesa drivers, which don't changes anything. can anyone give me tips to solving this issue or at least direction to dig into?
[11:22] <dcorking> way beack (debian 3.1 iirc) Debian decided that end users should use aptitude as the front end to apt-get
[11:22] <oguncak> hi friends. i deleted my upper panel on gnome, i created a new one. but now i cant find the start menu with my name. how can i find that back?
[11:22] <dcorking> way back!
[11:22] <kiminaiseah> hi, wheres the right room for mysql-clustering
[11:22] <Slart> cantoma: you're just doing regular graphs from octave? you could do them in gnuplot if you want.. it seems to have a bit more features compared to octave
[11:22] <GnuSeb> kapil: are there any screen shots? will it be all messed from the screen dimensions ro something?
[11:22] <nomike> Could it be, that JFS does not support ACL's or, that the option is disabled in the Ubuntu-Default kernel?
[11:23] <cantoma> Slart, i could but the thing is .. can then you add one graph (inside the other)?
[11:23] <Spike1506> goodday, i have a trust wireless usb mouse but it seems to lag.. my touchpad seems to work fine, i already switched batteries. any solution to it?
[11:23] <Slart> cantoma: yes.. gnuplot can do that
[11:23] <Spike1506> it doesnt lag all the time, just random
[11:23] <grawity> JFS seems to have ACLs... and Ubuntu has ACL support with at least ext3.
[11:23] <cantoma> Slart, but its just command line right?
[11:24] <francisfelidae> hi! how can I activate vim plugins?
[11:24] <cantoma> Slart, i would like to have something more drag and drop
[11:24] <Zxcvb> I only get 11-14fps in etracer on a i945gme card, is that normal?
[11:24] <Slart> cantoma: here are samples of gnuplot diagrams.. with source code
[11:24] <rski> Zxcvb: yea
[11:25] <Slart> cantoma: well.. I don't really know of anything that does that..
[11:25] <oguncak> how can i find the start menu that includes my name?
[11:25] <Zxcvb> rski: ok, just checking
[11:25] <redbrain> any postfix gurus here its pissing me off
[11:25] <Zxcvb> rski: seems kind of low
[11:26] <kapil> GnuSeb: have a look at http://www.imsc.res.in/~kapil/UNR.png
[11:26] <leaf-sheep> ActionParsnip: Care to help me compiling zsnes?
[11:26] <rski> Zxcvb: and the 945 is kid of bad. :)
[11:26] <mickster04> oguncak, wont it be one of the menu addables?
[11:26] <GnuSeb> kapil: not found on this server
[11:26] <Zxcvb> rski: could have sworn the i915 was faster
[11:26] <GnuSeb> kapil: but technically speaking it has all the same features right?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: read the readme in the source tarball, it will tell you all
[11:27] <kapil> GnuSeb: sorry. sent the message before uploading!
[11:27] <mickster04> oguncak, try the shutdown and log out items too, it might be one of them
[11:27] <aaditya> what could make the "Suspend" option disappear from all my gnome menus?
[11:28] <Zxcvb> rski: do you think it would be best to use opengl or software rendering for ps1 games on that card?
[11:28] <rski> no idea never used intel
[11:28] <kapil> GnuSeb: see what ActionParsnip said. it is optimised for netbook usage. this means (a) small screen (b) high portability.
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> kapil: GnuSeb: also low(ish) system power
[11:29] <GnuSeb> will it work on a normal 14 inch screen though?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: sure
[11:29] <GnuSeb> ActionParsnip, right now I have a compaq presario cq40 laptop with 2 ghz memory
[11:30] <GnuSeb> it came with vista basic on it
[11:30] <mickster04> 2 ghz mem?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: thats plenty, it will flyyyyy
[11:30] <richardcavell> GnuSeb: You mean 2 Gigabytes
[11:30] <GnuSeb> can i install ubuntu unr and still leave windows on a different partition
[11:30] <GnuSeb> yes i meant
[11:30] <GnuSeb> two 2gb
[11:30] <mickster04> oh ok :D
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: its more than an eeepc so its fine
[11:31] <aaditya> gconf was the answer
[11:31] <GnuSeb> eepc?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: those tiny netbooks from Asus?
[11:31] <GnuSeb> ActionParsnip, will i be able to leave the factory preinstalled vista, make a partition, install ubuntu unr, mount partition and transfer files?
[11:31] <Miki> hello !!!
[11:32] <mickster04> hi
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: sure, you will need ntfs-3g to get write access to ntfs
[11:32] <dabukalam> GnuSeb: Really cheap small underpowered notebooks, referred to as "netbooks"
[11:32] <mickster04> :D
[11:32] <Miki> do you know if there are errors on ubuntu  dvd 9.04 ?
[11:32] <richardcavell> Miki: no
[11:32] <Miki> i tested twice  with md5
[11:32] <dabukalam> !ubuntu
[11:32] <richardcavell> Miki: Are you trying to install from a 9.04 DVD?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Miki: if the md5 hashes match then your download is ok
[11:32] <Miki> yes
[11:32] <dabukalam> !dvd
[11:32] <richardcavell> Miki: So your md5 hash matches?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Miki: the second test will be the same as the first
[11:32] <Miki> yes correct
[11:33] <Miki> yes on the iso and files
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Miki: then its a full and correct iso
[11:33] <richardcavell> Miki: So are you able to burn it to a DVD?
[11:33] <GnuSeb> ActionParsnip, one thing tha concerns me is that of battery power and overheating, my windows laptop tends to run out battery power quickly after a couple of hours and it gets really hot too
[11:33] <Miki> but when i burn with nero  there are 3 errors
[11:33] <GnuSeb> if i install unr will that improve