[03:57] <mozammel> hi,... looking for help, kmail crash, and every time crash.. please help here is my terminal print. https://pastebin.com/FkCnEneK
[05:07] <mozammel> kmail cant open, Need help..
[05:08] <mozammel> it was just working, then suddnly crash, and since then its keep crashing when ever I try to open it.
 (Photo, 882x617) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/SIMUROVB/file_3793.jpg This is my System info. Krunner crashes when I type something in the krunner.
 (Photo, 927x105) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/BWkDNTFk/file_3795.jpg and if I try to to run it from konsole after the crash, the above error appears
 can anybody help me to sort out the problem
[05:20] <jaafar> Anyone send files to your system via Bluetooth from Android?
[05:21] <jaafar> It's been years but it never seems to work
[05:29] <DarinMiller> jaafar: bluetooth files transfer works fine here (kubuntu 17.10...)
[05:31] <jaafar> DarinMiller: thanks so much for responding... Can you walk me through it? Android displays a PIN, kubuntu does not and seems to think it is connected. Android shows failure message.
[05:31] <jaafar> I'm also 17.10
[05:32] <DarinMiller> Clickon the bt icon near the clock.
[05:32] <jaafar> okay
[05:32] <DarinMiller> Then click on settings icon in the upper right of the popup window...
[05:33] <jaafar> okay, I've seen that one a lot lately :)
[05:33] <jaafar> it's up
[05:33] <jaafar> My Android will appear here as "connected"
[05:33] <jaafar> though Android itself thinks it failed
[05:33] <DarinMiller> sry if I am repeating what you have tried many times... but just covering the bases...
[05:33] <jaafar> at the moment, not present.  What's next?
[05:34] <jaafar> no worries at all, makes sense
[05:35] <DarinMiller> On the Adapters tab, ensure the Powered box is checked and set visibility to Always Visible (for now).
[05:35] <DarinMiller> On the Advanced Setting tab, ensure Enable Bluetooth integration is checked.
[05:36] <jaafar> all as specified
[05:37] <DarinMiller> Ok, back on the Devices tab, click the plus [+] button.
[05:38]  * DarinMiller funny, I can see my neighbors soundbar.... I should play some holiday music for him....
[05:38] <jaafar> :)
[05:38] <jaafar> OK my Android device is visible
[05:39] <DarinMiller> on your phone, tap and hold the bt icon to bring up the bt connections
[05:39] <DarinMiller> On the PC screen, select your phone and click the next button.
[05:39] <jaafar> hm, I have the "bluetooth settings" open, if that's what you mean
[05:40] <jaafar> on Android
[05:40] <jaafar> And on my PC I have a "Connect" but no "Next"
[05:40] <DarinMiller> Does the phone show the spinning search option somewhere on the screen?
[05:41] <jaafar> spinning search option... no
[05:41] <jaafar> it does list my PC though
[05:41] <jaafar> This is the "bluetooth settings" menu, I guess, which does list visible bt devices
[05:41] <DarinMiller> Find the bt screen on the phone where you have the scan option for paring devices...
[05:41] <jaafar> I know if I click on my PC name it will attempt to connect
[05:41] <jaafar> which fails
[05:42] <jaafar> DarinMiller this screen does scan when I first bring it up
[05:42] <jaafar> Is it enough that it shows my PC name or should I look for some other menu?
[05:42] <DarinMiller> I only iniate connect from the PC side, and confirm on the phone side.
[05:42] <jaafar> because it's there
[05:42] <jaafar> DarinMiller: shall I try to initiate from the PC side now?
[05:42] <jaafar> by clicking "Connect"
[05:42] <DarinMiller> yes.
[05:43] <jaafar> OK that causes my Android to display a PIN
[05:43] <jaafar> shall I click "pair" on Android?
[05:43] <DarinMiller> yes, accept on the phone...
[05:43] <jaafar> Android displays "pairing"
[05:44] <DarinMiller> then confirm on the pc side.
[05:44] <jaafar> when you say "confirm" on the PC side, I'm not sure what you mean
[05:44] <jaafar> it seems to think it is connected
[05:44] <jaafar> no PIN was displayed on the PC
[05:45] <DarinMiller> On mine, I confirm the code on the phone, then the PC wizard want confimation that the pin was correct.
[05:45] <jaafar> OK now Android says "Couldn't pair with xxx because of an incorrect PIN or passkey"
[05:45] <jaafar> which is what usually happens
[05:45] <jaafar> I will try the process again without pausing
[05:45] <DarinMiller> Ensure to delete your device from the list and try again.
[05:46] <jaafar> OK will try that
[05:46] <DarinMiller> Yes, time windows are very small. Do not let your phone screen blank out or you may miss the window.
[05:46] <jaafar> OK I have removed Android from the list of known devices and will try again
[05:46] <DarinMiller> very good.
[05:47] <jaafar> Same problem
[05:47] <jaafar> Android displays PIN, I say connect, long pause, error message from Android
[05:48] <DarinMiller> OK, I have the following BT packages installed:
[05:48] <jaafar> maybe I need dpkg-reconfigure :)
[05:48] <DarinMiller> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26161809/
[05:49] <DarinMiller> check your list with this command: apt list *blue* | grep installed
[05:51] <jaafar> DarinMiller: I checked it by attempting to install all of those :) no changes made
[05:51] <jaafar> so I think they must be there
[05:52] <jaafar> actually I have a lot more bluez modules than you do
[05:52] <DarinMiller> Have you connected any other bt devices such as a speaker?
[05:52] <jaafar> I believe so
[05:53] <jaafar> btw this is a problem I've seen for years
[05:53] <DarinMiller> How many device connection options are listed on the PC?
[05:53] <jaafar> something like 20+
[05:53] <jaafar> including somebody's MacBook Pro
[05:53] <mozammel> https://pastebin.com/Ef1kjWxP Kmail keep crahing, any idea how to fix it ?
[05:53] <jaafar> and a bunch of MAC addresses
[05:53] <DarinMiller> I have had BT issues with my PC's over the years, but in the last year, most of the BT issues have been fixed..
[05:54] <jaafar> I haven't had any luck sending files from my Android devices... several generations of them, and many versions of kubuntu
[05:54] <DarinMiller> What verion of Android?
[05:54] <jaafar> I just assumed it doesn't work
[05:55] <jaafar> 7.1.2
[05:55] <jaafar> but this has been true for some time
[05:55] <jaafar> starting with a Samsung Infuse maybe 3, 4 years ago
[05:55] <DarinMiller> I am running 7.0 here.
[05:55] <DarinMiller> S7.
[05:55] <jaafar> what could explain Kubuntu failing to display the PIN dialog?
[05:56] <jaafar> that's what it's supposed to do, right?
[05:56] <DarinMiller> mozammel: Sry, I don't use kmail, so I can't help much.
[05:56] <DarinMiller> just a sec, I will delete mine again, and let you know..
[05:58] <DarinMiller> OK the pin popped up on the PC screen and on the phone at the same time.  I confirmed on the phone 1st, then on the PC and everything worked fine.
[05:58] <DarinMiller> Testing on 2nd PC....
[05:59] <DarinMiller> 2nd PC connected and paired just fine.  By chance is your phone paired to a set of headphones another device in the house?
[06:00] <jaafar> nope
[06:00] <DarinMiller> If so, disconnect that device and start the connection process again.  Current BT devices can only connect to one device at a time.
[06:01] <jaafar> I am going to test with a bluetooth speaker now
[06:02] <DarinMiller> run this command: sudo lshw > t.txt && kate t.txt &
[06:02] <DarinMiller> then in kate search for "blue"
[06:03] <DarinMiller> what brand of BT adapter is listed?
[06:03] <jaafar> DarinMiller: sorry should I try the speaker or no...
[06:03] <jaafar> you had asked previously
[06:04] <DarinMiller> yes, try the speaker
[06:04] <DarinMiller> also break up the previous command: sudo lshw > t.txt
[06:04] <DarinMiller> then: kate t.txt
[06:08] <DarinMiller> Does the speaker work with either PC or the phone?
[06:09] <jaafar> OK speaker works with PC
[06:09] <jaafar> sorry that took a bit of audio configuration
[06:09] <DarinMiller> np. :)
[06:09] <jaafar> it is paired and can output audio from Spotify
[06:09] <jaafar> I will switch to your other question now
[06:10] <DarinMiller> very good.
[06:11] <jaafar> DarinMiller: I assume this is the one that interests you: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26161874/
[06:13] <jaafar> Android can pair with the speaker too
[06:15] <DarinMiller> that adapter is exactly what I have in the 2nd PC I tested.
[06:16] <jaafar> I presume some software issue
[06:17] <jaafar> It's like some part of the negotiation is busted
[06:17] <DarinMiller> On the PC side, try clearning all BT devices from the list. on the phone side, clear the PC if its listed. Then try again.
[06:17] <jaafar> DarinMiller: what do you think about me removing and reinstalling some packages
[06:17] <jaafar> or some other kind of reconfiguration?
[06:17] <jaafar> or deleting files out of my ~/.config or ~/.kde
[06:17] <jaafar> etc.
[06:18] <jaafar> I have been upgrading for a long time instead of clean installing
[06:18] <DarinMiller> you could use the sudo apt purge <package>
[06:18] <DarinMiller> then reinstall.
[06:18] <DarinMiller> purge should clear any of the config files.
[06:20] <jaafar> Here's the weird thing: the PC side thinks it is connected
[06:20] <jaafar> despite never displaying the PIN or whatever
[06:20] <jaafar> it's the Android side that thinks it failed
[06:21] <jaafar> blowing away all packages matching *blue* :)
[06:21] <jaafar> A system restart is necessary
[06:22] <jaafar> wish me luck
[06:23] <DarinMiller> my desktop system has been upgraded several times (I think since 15.04 days, but not exactly sure).  My desktop has Asus BT card and until this last year, I was having similar problems as yours.
[06:23] <DarinMiller> But now, all my BT devices are working great.  I connect to speakers, receiver and phones
[06:24] <jaafar> oh wow, with the PIN issue?
[06:25] <jaafar> I mean, did Android pause and then fail with a PIN-related error?
[06:25] <DarinMiller> yes, seems the hookup would almost work then fail at the last step.
[06:26] <jaafar> Well, hopefully the master purge will work :)
[06:26] <jaafar> back in 5
[06:26] <DarinMiller> Ensure pulseaudio-module-bluetooth is re-installed as my intel system would not connect to speakers without it (even on 17.10)
[06:27] <DarinMiller> cu in 5
[06:28] <DarinMiller> jaafar: your back! whew...!
[06:29] <DarinMiller> you're^
[06:31] <jaafar> BOOYAH
[06:31] <jaafar> DarinMiller: yeah the grand purge did it
[06:32] <jaafar> All working as you described now
[06:32] <DarinMiller> good to know!
[06:32] <jaafar> Perhaps the "Next" vs "Connect" should have been a sign
[06:32] <jaafar> Now I have "Next" where before I had "Connect"
[06:33] <DarinMiller> yes, I was confused by the "connect" button as mine said next.
[06:33] <DarinMiller> Did you send a file?  It should work now.
[06:33] <jaafar> DarinMiller: very much appreciate your help
[06:33] <jaafar> yep, it worked :)
[06:34] <DarinMiller> awesome.  You actually solved the problem.  I was just the rubber ducky... :)
[06:34] <jaafar> that has been an irritant for so long
[06:34] <jaafar> DarinMiller: but I would not have known that it "should" work without your information
[06:34] <jaafar> I had assumed it was just broken and nobody had time to fix it
[06:34] <jaafar> Or was aware, etc.
[06:35] <jaafar> OK one more for you but very trivial!
[06:35] <DarinMiller> glad I could help.
[06:35] <jaafar> I have to select "reboot" (or powerdown, etc.) twice every time
[06:35] <DarinMiller> Ok, its getting late...
[06:35] <jaafar> do you observe that?
[06:35] <jaafar> there is a fine workaround, I am just curious
[06:36] <jaafar> K menu, Leave, Reboot
[06:36] <jaafar> nothing happens
[06:36] <jaafar> K menu, Leave, Reboot
[06:36] <jaafar> it reboots
[06:36] <DarinMiller> oh, I am aware of the issue, but I do not know the fix.  I suspect it's possibly a package like your bluetooth, but I have not clue.
[06:36] <jaafar> haha so it is known :)
[06:37] <jaafar> thanks DarinMiller enjoy your well-deserved rest and thanks for helping out in the channel
[06:37] <DarinMiller> in sys setting, do you have the restart prompt enabled?  (checking sys settting location, just a sec...)
[06:38] <jaafar> oh man, listen, don't stay up on my account I was just wondering about that
[06:39] <DarinMiller> it just take a sec... sys setting -> Startup and Shutdown
[06:39] <DarinMiller> Desktop session tab, turn off Confirm logout and see if that fixed the issue.
[06:40] <jaafar> OK
[06:40] <jaafar> that will cause me to vanish
[06:40] <jaafar> so I will try it later :)
[06:40] <DarinMiller> yes.
[06:40] <jaafar> appreciate the tip
[06:40] <DarinMiller> ok, gn
[06:40] <jaafar> gn to you too
[06:45] <hateball> jaafar: do you have Steam running?
[06:45] <hateball> As that will halt shutdowns
[06:45] <hateball> There are other apps as well
 (Photo, 1280x1135) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/IOEHcmoB/file_3797.jpg
[06:57] <jaafar> hateball: nope.  Anyway it does work, the second time...
[06:57]  * jaafar should install Steam
[07:13] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:43] <user|63453> Hi! ....
[10:43] <user|63453> What requirements do I need to have to install the latest version of kubuntu?
[10:43] <user|63453> please help me!
[11:29] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[16:51] <[Relic]> Thinking of installing 17.04(usb already made) and then dist upgrading to 17.10.  Any forseeable problems with that or should I make a new 17.10 and just install that?
[17:00] <bings[m]> The latter, every time. Regardless of what you're doing, less chance of problems just to install what version you want.
[19:52]  * ronnoc raises hand - count me in for the Breeze Dark theme by default :)
[19:52] <acheronuk> ronnoc: thanks
[19:54] <ronnoc> acheronuk: Anytime. It's classy and kool.
[21:16] <ronnoc> BTW - anyone else use Akregator and have issues on start of a corrupted feed file that was automatically restored from backup?
[21:35] <Joel_> hi
[22:32] <MrPechi> oi


[00:38] <Fudge> hi guys, anyone using tbird Version: 3.3~a4~hg20110404r7500+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~maverick
[11:23] <Milos_SD> Hi
[11:23] <Milos_SD> How can I fix corrupted places.sqlite file?
[11:23] <Milos_SD> I can't even open it in sqlite browser
[11:23] <Milos_SD> it get's corrupted every time I close Firefox
[11:23] <Milos_SD> I use FIrefox 4 that is in Ubuntu 11.04
[12:58] <fta2> can't you even dump it in a shell? (with sqlite3)
[12:58] <fta2> "sqlite3 your.sqlite .dump"
[12:59] <fta2> oh, gone
[15:16] <chrisccoulson_> fta2 - you there?
[15:52] <fta> chrisccoulson_, yep
[15:55] <chrisccoulson_> hi fta!
[15:55] <chrisccoulson_> i need to get the firefox-trunk nightlies working again now the version has changed to 4.2
[15:56] <chrisccoulson_> so, i propose we just rename this to firefox-trunk now (rather than having firefox-4.0 or firefox-4.2)
[15:57] <fta> lol
[15:57] <fta> ok
[15:57] <chrisccoulson_> then we hopefully won't have to rename it again ;)
[15:57] <chrisccoulson_> (seeing as the version number is going to be changing quite frequently now)
[15:57] <fta> will do that later today, i need to know which branch has been renamed, and to where
[15:58] <chrisccoulson_> fta - it's lp:~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-trunk.head
[15:58] <chrisccoulson_> (note, the branch name isn't changing - it's just the package name)
[15:58] <chrisccoulson_> firefox-4.0 => firefox-trunk
[15:58] <chrisccoulson_> they will match then ;)
[16:00] <fta> noted
[16:05] <BUGabundo> fta: prefered applications, broken for chromium
[16:10] <fta> ?
[16:13] <debfx> chrisccoulson_: I've opened a merge proposal with a fix for bug #572772
[16:13] <chrisccoulson_> debfx, thanks. will take a look once i've sorted some menu issues out
[22:54] <fta> chrisccoulson_, i assume i can drop the protection for the version now
[22:54] <fta> right?
[22:54] <chrisccoulson_> fta - yeah, that should be fine
[22:54] <fta> it's still mozilla-central ?
[23:03] <chrisccoulson_> fta - yeah, it's still mozilla-central
[23:03] <fta> should be ok then. we'll see tomorrow
[23:06] <chrisccoulson_> fta - excellent, thanks
[23:08] <fta> jcastro, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/stats/stats.html
[23:09] <fta> (still polling the daily)
[23:11] <jcastro> heh cool
[23:12] <jcastro> fta: does this happen to you? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bamf/+bug/744972/
[23:15] <fta> it never worked for me.
[23:15] <fta> but i need to update my (old) webapps to have the new wm class
[23:17] <jcastro> yeah I had to redo mine
[23:17] <jcastro> and then it worked
[23:17] <jcastro> but then bfiller pointed out the multiple app thing
[23:17] <jcastro> which I never ran into I guess
[23:22] <fta> jcastro, he says in the bug that he creates the webapps with chromium, so the wm class is wrong, it's still pending on the chromium side
[23:22] <fta> unless i missed something
[23:25] <jcastro> fta: is the chromium in the archive updated?
[23:25] <jcastro> I thought it was fixed upstream?
[23:26] <jcastro> fta: oh, is it fixed in -dev but not in the archive?
[23:26] <fta> i don't think so; let me try with trunk
[23:27] <jcastro> I'm stepping out for food, if you could just mention it in the bug that would be awesome
[23:27] <fta> BUGabundo, right, default browser regressed, but not sure it's ch or something else in ubuntu
[23:27] <jcastro> before I send trevino on a wild goose chase
[23:28] <fta> StartupWMClass=Chromium-browser
[23:28] <fta> in trunk, so nada, still pending upstream


[20:43] <pavlos> Jaden_Korr: I use locate <something> then sudo updatedb and do the locate again till I have every file removed from my system.
[20:44] <IronDev> karanlearnsmakes: What is ur internet speed?
[20:44] <Koleon> KaiForce: OK, thanks once again. :) Btw, I'm struggling with connection via ssh to host with rules: Chain INPUT (DROP) and with -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT. Chain OUTPUT (DROP) -A OUTPUT -p tcp --sport 22 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT. Unlucky I cannot connect to the remote host. Don't you have any idea please?
[20:46] <karanlearnsmakes> speedtest.net says 14 mbps
[20:47] <IronDev> karanlearnsmakes Shouldnt take that long
[20:47] <karanlearnsmakes> ok
[20:47] <karanlearnsmakes> so is there an option to skip some packages
[20:47] <karanlearnsmakes> most of the stuff i have installed is not needed now by me
[20:48] <karanlearnsmakes> when i upgrade ubuntu from 14.04 - can i skip some packages
[20:48] <howudodat> any iptables experts here?  I have a simple rules question
[20:49] <IronDev> karanlearnsmakes I don't really know about that
[20:51] <pierre_> hello everybody
[20:51] <KaiForce> Koleon: shorewall is my answer to that.
[20:51] <pierre_> can somebody help me with xmlstarlet
[20:51] <Koleon> KaiForce: I see. I'll check it out. Thanks
[20:51] <pierre_> please
[20:51] <karanlearnsmakes> thanks irc
[20:52] <pierre_> my xml input is here: https://pastebin.com/x4TViXsE
[20:52] <pierre_> I try to query all the nodes under connections where attribute name =*_conn
[20:53] <pierre_> tried the following: xmlstarlet sel -t -c "/project/connections/connection[@name='*_conn']" sampleJson.xml but it does not return anything
[20:55] <Artem> Is there a way to use remmina rdp and have openconnect auto start a vpn?
[20:56] <Artem> Id like to RDP into a offsite computer and have the connection start a VPN connection. Anyone have an idea on how to do this?
[21:20] <dawid> #Rizon
[21:21] <dawid> hello
[21:21] <dawid> how I can join another channel>
[21:21] <dawid> which command should I type?
[21:21] <oldschool^> /join
[21:21] <oldschool^> /join #chan
[21:22] <dawid> thanks very much
[21:22] <dawid> have a nice day//night
[21:30] <darkseid4nk> question: what port does aptitude use to fetch hash sums? when i am using a shared internet connection, i can do pretty much everything except fetch hash sums with aptitude.
[21:30] <darkseid4nk> can ping, can ssh out, etc.
[21:31] <ikonia> 80 / 443
[21:32] <ikonia> it's just a http service
[21:36] <morsnowski> darkseid4nk: i had that issue and using another DNS server fixed that, don't ask me why though
[21:38] <jonfen> i have a lenovo thinkpad yoga X1 running 17.04 and when i first start the computer i have the option of using the touchscreen keyboard to login unity.  but after that the lock screen doesn't give the touchscreen keyboard option.
[21:38] <darkseid4nk> weird. same dns server right to the router and it worked. if its coming from my laptop shared internet then it doesnt work.
[21:38] <wstlnd> howdy
[21:39] <wstlnd> howdy oerias
[21:40] <wstlnd> howdy
[21:41] <Jello_Raptor_> What channel should I use if I need help making a patch to an existing package? (I have the patch, but for the life of me can't figure out why `bzr builddeb` isn't making a .dsc file)
[21:41] <OERIAS> hey wstlnd
[22:07] <Guest5409> hello
[22:08] <Guest5409> I need to reset my 2FA device
[22:08] <Guest5409> for login.ubuntu.com
[22:09] <Guest5409> does anyone monitor these threads?
[22:09] <dax> Guest5409: #ubuntu is for community support, we don't handle Canonical infrastructure issues. See https://forms.canonical.com/sso-support/
[22:10] <Guest5409> @dax Yeah, the FAQ directed me to #isd, but no one is there
[22:10] <Guest5409> Is there more to it?
[22:12] <dax> #isd isn't a channel on freenode, it may be one on Canonical's internal IRC service.
[22:12] <dax> there's a contact form on the page I linked, and there is also<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:13] <dax> ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSO/FAQs/2FA#Help )
[22:19] <MFD36> Need a bit of input iam running Ubuntu 16.04 LTR should i upgrade to i think its 17.04 is there pros for upgrading or just stay with what i have.
[22:20] <prepp> Upgrading is not guaranteed success. Have backups and be prepared to reinstall
[22:20] <MFD36> Ok thanks.
[22:20] <Bashing-om> MFD36: What is your motivation to deviate from a LTS release ?
[22:21] <MFD36> None really sounds stupid just did not know if there was some new great thing with the new one.
[22:23] <nacc> MFD36: most likely reason (other than being a developer or just wanting to toy around) to be on non-LTS is hardware support, but that's why !hwe exists
[22:23] <Bashing-om> MFD36: Better support for newer hardware in 17.04 .
[22:23] <MFD36> i like 16.04 but am willing to look at better things if out there.
[22:23] <nacc> MFD36: that statement "better things" is too vague to be answerable
[22:23] <MFD36> ok i understand
[22:24] <MFD36> yes sorry it was i trust u know a lot more than i do so for now i will stay were iam at thanks
[22:27] <kostkon> MFD36, when did you install 16.04? You can always do the hwe upgrade if it applies to you, but even that is not a guaranteed success, although it's a simpler and more straightforward process.
[22:28] <MFD36> Ok thanks for the info
[22:28] <kostkon> !hwe
[22:39] <Some_Person> On my computer, there is a rather long delay between logging in and connecting to the network (using ethernet). Why is this?
[22:40] <PMantis13> hello everyone
[22:40] <PMantis13> just installed ubuntu, but didn't know I would have trouble with AMD gpu
[22:41] <Some_Person> It connects right away if I go to the menu and select "Wired connection 1"
[22:41] <Some_Person> but is incredibly slow at doing that automatically
[22:41] <PMantis13> anyone knows how to get my current installed driver?
[22:42] <tgm4883> Some_Person: this is really shoestring information. Multiple NICs? Wireless on the machine too? Is it trying to use a different network profile when you login?
[22:42] <tgm4883> !details | PMantis13
[22:42] <Some_Person> It has wireless, but the wireless is disabled automatically when the system is docked (which it is in this case)
[22:42] <Alumin> OK, clearly I'm missing something obvious and will kick myself once I figure out what's going on, but...I'm trying to change my shell and it won't "take".  I can see the new shell listed in /etc/passwd, it's in /etc/shells, but when I log in I still just get BASH.
[22:42] <Some_Person> "Wi-Fi is disabled by hardware switch"
[22:43] <Ben64> Alumin: have you tried turning it off and then on again
[22:43] <Alumin> yes!
[22:43] <Alumin> I logged out and back in twice :)
[22:44] <Some_Person> The same thing seems to happen when I undock, which causes it to automatically switch to wifi, and then dock again. There's a long delay before it connects to ethernet again
[22:44] <Ben64> Alumin: what shell you trying to go to?
[22:44] <Alumin> Zsh
[22:44] <Some_Person> even though I can do it immediately from the menu
[22:44] <PMantis13> I have a R9 280 GPU card, but there is no driver for Ubuntu on AMD's official driver page for this one. Is there any other way I can update it? I've seen the 'sudo apt-get install fglrx', but it fails saying "E: Package 'fglrx' has no installation candidate"
[22:44] <nacc> PMantis13: fglrx no longer exists
[22:44] <tgm4883> PMantis13: what version of Ubuntu
[22:44] <Ben64> Alumin: "sudo usermod -s $(which zsh)" ??
[22:44] <nacc> PMantis13: only on 14.04 (and 12.04 for a while)
[22:45] <PMantis13> I'm on 16.04
[22:45] <Alumin> Ben64: I don't want to just change it manually, these systems are being deployed using config management tooling
[22:45] <Ben64> Alumin: you should explain more then
[22:45] <rizonz> why is there still use :80 in the sources.list ?
[22:45] <Alumin> well, I guess the real question is how does the login process determine which shell to run, other than the field in /etc/passwd?
[22:46] <Alumin> 'cause in there it says /usr/bin/zsh
[22:46] <Ben64> Alumin: that's why i'm asking for more info, because that's it
[22:47] <nacc> rizonz: your question is unparseable, but the string ":80" does not appear in /etc/apt/sources.list by default.
[22:47] <Alumin> yeah, that's how I've always understood it.  I don't even know what other information I could give
[22:47] <Alumin> I'm logging in and getting a shell other than the one listed in passwd
[22:47] <Ben64> logging in how
[22:47] <Some_Person> Unfortunately it's a pain in the butt to search for this issue. It's also a pain in the butt because I have a script that runs on login that needs network
[22:47] <Alumin> SSH
[22:48] <Some_Person> I also seem to be the only one in the office with this issue
[22:48] <Alumin> let's see if I can at leat prove it's Ansible-related, I'll change it with usermod and see if that even sticks
[22:48] <tgm4883> Alumin: that's always a good idea
[22:49] <Alumin> nope.  And when I ran it, it said "usermod: no changes"
[22:50] <Alumin> curioser and curioser
[22:50] <Ben64> something else is going on then
[22:50] <Alumin> "grep -ir bash /etc/pam.d"  heh
[22:50] <Alumin> no results :)
[22:51] <Some_Person> Any ideas?
[22:51] <rizonz> nacc: I see a ot of port 80 set for the repos, I still wonder why
[22:51] <nacc> rizonz: that's not the default, are you still using your local repo?
[22:51] <tgm4883> Alumin: have you thought of using '/bin/zsh'  since that seems to be the right path
[22:51] <Alumin> that's what I used first
[22:52] <rizonz> nacc: I know it from the past and my provisioning setup get's it from somewhere, I'm not sure yet from where
[22:52] <nacc> rizonz: sounds like a bug in your provisioning setup
[22:52] <M`aR`k> join #farmos
[22:53] <M`aR`k> Missed a /, however you should join #farmos, lol.  If you like gardening and farming and what not.
[22:53] <ikonia> M`aR`k: no thanks, please don't advertise
[22:53] <rizonz> nacc: yeah but the source doesn't show it... will file a bugreport
[22:54] <Alumin> it's not related to Zsh it looks like, 'cause when I change my shell to dash that doesn't take either
[22:54] <tgm4883> Alumin: zsh works fine here only changing it in passwd
[22:54] <Alumin> yeah, it should
[22:55] <Some_Person> I need to figure out why there's a long delay before my laptop connects to the network on startup. Wi-Fi is disabled in hardware, and the connection is ethernet. It connects immediately if I go to the menu and select "Wired connection 1", but takes like a couple minutes if I let it happen automatically.
[22:55] <ikonia> Some_Person: remove the boot splash and watch the network come up
[22:55] <Alumin> ok here's an interesting twist
[22:56] <Some_Person> ikonia: How do I do that?
[22:56] <rizonz> for local repo's do we need to add main restriced, etc for d-i apt-setup/local0/repository string ?
[22:56] <Alumin> if I su to my own username, I get the right shell
[22:56] <rizonz> I'm not following that
[22:56] <ikonia> Some_Person: just hit tab or esc when you see the ubuntu bootsplash
[22:56] <Some_Person> Okay, hold on
[22:57] <CrazyLikeAFox> So, I'm trying to copy some files from the hard disk of my old laptop to this one, without changing anything on the old drive.
[22:57] <rizonz> seems so
[22:57] <CrazyLikeAFox> It fails due to no permission though
[22:57] <tgm4883> CrazyLikeAFox: use sudo
[22:58] <CrazyLikeAFox> tgm4883: If I do is as root, won't root be the owner of all the copies of the files?
[22:58] <Alumin> CrazyLikeAFox: you could use sudo, run rsync -avP
[22:58] <Alumin> that'll preserve your ownerships
[22:59] <nacc> rizonz: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[22:59] <tgm4883> the ownerships would still be wrong though
[22:59] <tgm4883> CrazyLikeAFox: what are you trying to copy
[22:59] <Alumin> not to mention make it easy to pick up where you left off if the transfer dies
[22:59] <nacc> rizonz: afaict, if you are using a local repository, you must proivde the string exactly as you want it
[22:59] <CrazyLikeAFox> well, I used a different username this time than I have been using
[22:59] <CrazyLikeAFox> tgm4883: the entire contents of a hard disk onto this computer
[22:59] <CrazyLikeAFox> So, this is the first time I've had this issue
[23:00] <rizonz> nacc: yeah I'm comparing it to the default ones, gonna kick a new server and see what happens
[23:00] <tgm4883> CrazyLikeAFox: the entire contents? Is this is OS drive?
[23:00] <CrazyLikeAFox> yes, and yes
[23:00] <tgm4883> CrazyLikeAFox: clone and resize?
[23:01] <CrazyLikeAFox> er, I was going more for dump all the files, one folder for each partition's root, in a folder in my /home
[23:03] <CrazyLikeAFox> you know, permissions shouldn't matter since any file that's actually of interest should be owned by me/the equivlent on the old system
[23:04] <CrazyLikeAFox> I just need to resursivly set them as such after the copy
[23:05] <Alumin> so, something's different about the login process you get with SSH, 'cause when I log in at the console I get the right shell
[23:06] <Alumin> lemme check sshd_config for that elusive DontAllowUsersToChangeShells option
[23:06] <CrazyLikeAFox> hrm, it failed with thunar as root as well
[23:06] <CrazyLikeAFox> this is interesting
[23:07] <CrazyLikeAFox> "Error opening directory '/media/cooper/System/etc/ssl/private'." "Permission denied."
[23:09] <gsilva> CrazyLikeAFox, are you running your commands with sudo?
[23:09] <gsilva> That worked for me, regardless of the user
[23:10] <CrazyLikeAFox> yes
[23:11] <CrazyLikeAFox> That folder and the single file in it, ssl-cert-snakeoil.key fail every time
[23:11] <CrazyLikeAFox> I seem to have access to other stuff in /etc/ssl
[23:12] <gsilva> I have a machine with 3 users and when I need stuff inside the other two users folder, I have to use sudo and it usually works (lets say I'm master of it)
[23:19] <Alumin> I figured it out. :)  When I logged out and back in and still got BASH, that was weird, but I blamed Ansible.  When I ran "su" to my own username and got the right shell, that was _really_ weird, but I blamed SSH.  Then I ssh-ed to localhost and got the right shell, and that's when things reached WTF levels of weirdness.
[23:20] <Alumin> turns out I out-clevered myself, heh
[23:20] <Alumin> when you are using SSH connection multiplexing ("ControlMaster" and friends), your subsequent connections are all still being made to the same, persistent, server-side SSH process...which has never restarted to pick up the change in /etc/shells
[23:21] <Alumin> so, you know, PEBCAK as usual
[23:21] <Alumin> just thought y'all might get a kick out of hearing the solution :)
[23:23] <CrazyLikeAFox> nevermind, I figure out what I was doing wrong
[23:24] <CrazyLikeAFox> I still don't remember how to take ownership of all the files after I copy them though :S
[23:24] <OY1R> i'm trying to install ubuntu 1604, i have mint installed before hand. Ubuntu is installed but i never get any boot options for mint and ubuntu
[23:25] <CrazyLikeAFox> Which OS is trying to boot?
[23:25] <OY1R> mint boots
[23:26] <CrazyLikeAFox> sounds like grub didn't get updated when ubuntu got installed
[23:55] <spetznaz_> what a small world... i got some simple ubuntu problem here guys, my ubuntu eventually hang for a couple of hours
[23:56] <spetznaz_> and still i cant resolve my pipebomb
[23:58] <spetznaz_> are there any humans here?
[23:59] <maddawg2> humans? where
[23:59] <maddawg2> i eat humans


[00:01] <blackboxsw> approved integration test updates https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/672
[00:02] <user217_> blackboxsw, thnks for help
[10:33] <otubo> blackboxsw: thanks for the update on the release! I'll work on the rebase for Fedora once it's out. :)
[10:57] <johnsonshi> Odd_Bloke and blackboxsw: Thank you so much for reviewing #594 (Azure report failure functionality) and #619 (Azure endpoint increased HTTP retries). I've just addressed the final set of minor comments and NITs in both PRs, so they should be mergeable. Given that #594 (Azure report failure functionality) is more complicated than #619 (increased http retries), let's merge #594/Azure-report-failure first.
[10:58] <johnsonshi> If we merge #594 (https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/594) first, if there are any merge conflicts, the conflicts should be easier to resolve in #619 (https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/619).
[11:03] <vijayendra> rharper, updated as per your review comments. https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/647#
[14:25] <Odd_Bloke> johnsonshi: Ack, thanks for the update; #594 is top of my list for today. :)
[14:54] <Odd_Bloke> blackboxsw: Extremely simple follow-up to #673: https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/674
[15:41] <Odd_Bloke> I'm investigating the build failures in master, BTW.
[15:41] <Odd_Bloke> (That's going to block landing anything we review, so it's the priority.)
[15:46] <Odd_Bloke> First thing I've tried is removing the Travis cache; that will force a re-debootstrap which may address the issue.
[15:50] <Odd_Bloke> That looks like it's fixed it, it's past the point of failure on this next build.
[15:52] <Odd_Bloke> I'm going to clear out all the rest of the caches in Travis, to be sure we won't hit that issue on existing branches/PRs.
[15:55] <Odd_Bloke> It's not letting me clear out some of the pushed branches' caches, for some reason.  Specifically: cryptography-3.2, groovy, xenial, devel.  Given that we don't run the package builds in the packaging branches, I think that should be fine.
[15:56] <Odd_Bloke> But FYI in case folks see failures because apt-transport-https isn't installed during package build (which it shouldn't need to be).
[18:04] <blackboxsw> Odd_Bloke: thanks for review on johnsonshi's #594, I just merged  https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/619 too
[18:04]  * blackboxsw checks 647
[18:04] <blackboxsw> 675
[18:04] <blackboxsw> hah
[18:04] <blackboxsw> ahh already landed right
[18:11] <meena> blackboxsw, if you lookin for work, https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/655 needs a review from someone who can make green ✅
[18:12] <johnsonshi> Odd_Bloke blackboxsw: Thanks for merging both PRs!
[18:19] <AnhVoMSFT>  @blackboxsw Thanks for the suggestions on unit tests for https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/670. I have updated it with the requested unit tests
[19:09] <asakkurr> Hi Odd_Bloke, I addressed your comments in #613 and sent a new update. Apologies for the delay here, I was out last week. Please do let me know if you have any more suggestions, I'll get to them asap this time. https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/613
[19:18] <Odd_Bloke> asakkurr: No worries, thanks for making the changes!  That's next on my list of reviews to revisit. :)
[20:25] <shurdeek> hello. I was wondering if there is something similar to cloud-init for macOS
[20:38] <Odd_Bloke> shurdeek: Not to my knowledge, no.


[12:00] <weston> In my Ubuntu 14.04.01, I  have installed japanese font anthy, but now it is seen as disabled in top  language options and it is not working. can anyone help me?
[12:09] <balloon-fu-sen> Hello, weston. This IRC is always quiet.
[12:10] <balloon-fu-sen> anthy is necessary to usually install it with ibus, fcitx or scim.
[12:11] <balloon-fu-sen> Do these install it?
[12:11] <balloon-fu-sen> Please try it if you do not perform it: sudo apt install ibus-anthy
[12:11] <weston> balloon-fu-sen: okay. I was gettin it yesterday and I can see it in the list as activated..but today, it is disabled.
[12:12] <weston> I have another japanese font
[12:12] <weston> s
[12:12] <weston> anthy and mozc-jp are disabled
[12:12] <weston> balloon-fu-sen: already done it to solve it
[12:13] <balloon-fu-sen> I hear it once again.
[12:14] <balloon-fu-sen> Do ibus, fcitx or scim either install it?
[12:14] <weston> balloon-fu-sen: ibus i have
[12:15] <balloon-fu-sen> Does the ibus-anthy package install it?
[12:15] <weston> balloon-fu-sen: yes yes
[12:16] <balloon-fu-sen> Does the ibus-anthy package install it?
[12:16] <balloon-fu-sen> Does Ubuntu (flavor) reboot once afterwards?
[12:16] <weston> balloon-fu-sen: no. it is vm
[12:17] <balloon-fu-sen> Please reboot it. This is necessary.
[12:17] <weston> balloon-fu-sen: ok. I given it.but anthy was getting yesterday
[12:17] <weston> why today!
[12:17] <balloon-fu-sen> So start of ibus may be got in systray.
[12:18] <balloon-fu-sen> Please tell me without improvement in this again.
[12:19] <weston> balloon-fu-sen: restarted..same behavior
[12:23] <weston> installed fcitx
[12:23] <weston> same issue
[12:24] <weston> balloon-fu-sen: you there?
[12:25] <balloon-fu-sen> It is necessary for you to reboot Ubuntu (flavor) again when you install fcitx.
[12:26] <balloon-fu-sen> In addition, please be careful about the setting of the language including a setting item of Input method.
[12:26] <weston> balloon-fu-sen: installed  scim also and rebooted
[12:26] <weston> no progress
[12:27] <weston> for anthy
[12:32] <weston> installed and rebooted all the three for anthy and mazc-jp, but no use
[12:32] <weston> still it is seen as disabled in the text-entry settings desktop
[12:33] <weston> balloon-fu-sen: ^^
[12:49] <kanupatar> helpless :(


[08:21] <KGB-0> mutter upstream/latest d67e60e Jeremy Bicha * pushed 76 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/1rWN
[08:21] <KGB-0> mutter upstream/latest 020d128 Robert Mader src/backends/native/ meta-frame-native.c meta-frame-native.h * frame/native: Remember whether the frame carried a kms update * https://deb.li/3VBVx
[08:21] <KGB-0> mutter upstream/latest 87b3843 Robert Mader clutter/clutter/clutter-stage-view.c * clutter/stage-view: Add destroy signal * https://deb.li/DAky
[08:21] <KGB-0> mutter upstream/latest a7a7933 Robert Mader src/wayland/meta-wayland.c * wayland: Emit frame events in GSource after "empty" updates * https://deb.li/TnZM
[08:21] <KGB-0> mutter upstream/latest 9252131 Jonas Ådahl src/backends/meta-cursor-tracker.c * cursor-tracker: Don't leak window cursor on exit * https://deb.li/iiFNj
[08:21] <KGB-0> mutter upstream/latest 867494d Jonas Ådahl (11 files in 6 dirs) * wayland/cursor-surface: Update cursor on dispose * https://deb.li/QnIA
[08:21] <KGB-0> mutter signed tags af89114 Jeremy Bicha upstream/44.1 * Upstream version 44.1 * https://deb.li/3Drpi
[08:21] <KGB-0> mutter pristine-tar 94a8a88 Jeremy Bicha mutter_44.1.orig.tar.xz.delta mutter_44.1.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for mutter_44.1.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/B2A0
[09:38] <lissyx> loosing focus of my window when changing workspace is really really the most annoying day-to-day bug
[12:18] <KGB-2> gnome-settings-daemon upstream/latest 9fdd128 Jeremy Bicha * pushed 13 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/33mvs
[12:18] <KGB-2> gnome-settings-daemon upstream/latest e95d068 Bruce Cowan po/en_GB.po * Update British English translation * https://deb.li/3Hls0
[12:18] <KGB-2> gnome-settings-daemon upstream/latest d6f7547 Boyuan Yang po/zh_CN.po * Update Chinese (China) translation * https://deb.li/V4zA
[12:18] <KGB-2> gnome-settings-daemon upstream/latest 0506c9f Nathan Follens po/nl.po * Update Dutch translation * https://deb.li/3NLwi
[12:18] <KGB-2> gnome-settings-daemon upstream/latest 9309d65 Danial Behzadi po/fa.po * Update Persian translation * https://deb.li/RLRv
[12:18] <KGB-2> gnome-settings-daemon upstream/latest dc493ec Alexander Shopov po/bg.po * Update Bulgarian translation * https://deb.li/3zonn
[12:18] <KGB-2> gnome-settings-daemon pristine-tar 3fb8d3a Amin Bandali gnome-settings-daemon_44.1.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-settings-daemon_44.1.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-settings-daemon_44.1.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/i24tU
[12:31] <bandali> hi lissyx, thanks for the 'hg clone --stream' tip, i didn't know about it. i'll give it a try and see how it goes
[12:55] <lissyx> bandali, I wont be able to make it today
[13:40] <bandali> hey lissyx, np and thanks for the heads up :)
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[03:18] <wasabi> Need some packaging advice.
[03:18] <wasabi> I have totally altered /usr/share/eclipse and /usr/lib/eclipse. Mnay dirs turned to symlinks, many symlinks turned to dirs.
[03:18] <wasabi> dpkg of course plays havok with that.
[03:19] <jbailey_> Yeah.  dpkg will follow symlinks to install things.
[03:19] <wasabi> So how do I clean it up proper? I have come up with this less-than-stellar idea.
[03:20] <wasabi> Introduce a new "eclipse-base" package and have it rmdir /usr/share/eclipse and /usr/lib/eclipse on clean install.
[03:20] <jbailey_> First can you tell me why there's a symlink farm?
[03:20] <wasabi> Eclipse's home has been moved to /usr/lib/eclipse
[03:20] <jbailey_> So you're just trying to preserve existing installs?
[03:20] <wasabi> Packages split into eclipse-feature, eclipse-feature-common and eclipse-feature-gcj
[03:20] <wasabi> No. I am just trying to make upgrading possible.
[03:21] <wasabi> -common stuff installs to /usr/share/eclipse
[03:21] <wasabi> non -common stuff installs into /usr/lib/eclipse, including a symlink farm in plugins pointing to /usr/share/eclipse/plugins
[03:21] <wasabi> (arch indep plugins)
[03:22] <wasabi> This is because Eclipse creates different plugins per arch.
[03:22] <jbailey_> Upgrading from what?
[03:22] <jbailey_> Current breezy
[03:22] <wasabi> Previous packages.
[03:22] <jbailey_> ?
[03:22] <wasabi> Yeah
[03:22] <jbailey_> Do the symlinks eventually go away?
[03:22] <wasabi> No.
[03:22] <jbailey_> If not, should eclipse simply be hacked to look in both places?
[03:23] <wasabi> I'd imagine that is pretty hard to do.
[03:23] <wasabi> Here's the thing. take eclipse-rcp
[03:23] <wasabi> It installs plugins/org.eclipse.swt.gtk.linux.x86/
[03:23] <wasabi> on ppc is's called ppc
[03:24] <jbailey_> That's /usr/lib/eclipse/... ?
[03:24] <wasabi> Yup.
[03:24] <wasabi> /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins
[03:24] <wasabi> My delima was I can't put a file named x86 in /usr/share
[03:24] <wasabi> Or I'd have to put the files named ppc and ppc64 and amd64 blah blah in there also.
[03:24] <jbailey_> But eclipse expects to find things in /usr/share/eclipse/plugins/org... ?
[03:25] <wasabi> It used to.
[03:25] <wasabi> Last version's Eclipse home was /usr/share/eclipse.
[03:25] <wasabi> One dir, it can't search outside it for core plugins.
[03:25] <jbailey_> Ah, hmm.
[03:25] <wasabi> I can't explain this right can I?
[03:26] <jbailey_> No, I think I understand.
[03:26] <wasabi> Eclipse "lives" in one directory. It expects to have the core plugins there.
[03:26] <jbailey_> I'm just trying to think of a way to solve this without needing a symlink farm.
[03:26] <wasabi> Some core plugins are platform dependent.
[03:26] <wasabi> It actually works out pretty decently... it's just annoying on upgrade.
[03:27] <jbailey_> So do you symlink for each plugin then to the common directory?
[03:27] <wasabi> I could nix -common and install EVERYTHING to /usr/lib, but I wanted to put things in -common for archive space
[03:27] <wasabi> Yes. Correct.
[03:27] <wasabi> It's sort of like /usr/lib/X11
[03:27] <jbailey_> Yeah.
[03:27] <jbailey_> Except fUglier.
[03:28] <wasabi> Well, I wrote a 3 lines bash snippet to do it.
[03:28] <wasabi> hehe.
[03:28] <jbailey_> Sounds like my mother in law is awake, I might be able to use the main terminal now, just a sec.
[03:28] <wasabi> Let me upload my packges for you
[03:29] <wasabi> I mean, I have it working... I just want advice on whether there's a better way.
[03:29] <wasabi> I really don't fancy hacking around in Eclipse to solve it.
[03:29] <jbailey_> The only thing better would be to teach eclipse the concept of looking in multiple places.
[03:29] <wasabi> It has the concept, just not for core plugins.
[03:29] <wasabi> swt is a core one.
[03:31] <wasabi> http://akita.larvalstage.net/~wasabi/eclipse
[03:34] <jbailey> Much better.
[03:40] <wasabi> ANyways, with this trick, if you figure out how to get ppc compiling, it should work. :0
[03:42] <jbailey> Grab the .orig from the archive?
[03:42] <wasabi> Yes
[03:42] <bebop> hi
[03:42] <wasabi> hi
[03:43] <wasabi> Well, what I ended up doing is creating an eclipse-base package, which everything pre-depends on.
[03:43] <wasabi> I can define that as the base of all eclipse features, put the binary in it, etc.
[03:43] <jbailey> Err.  it's not in main?
[03:43] <wasabi> universe
[03:43] <jbailey> Cool, fetching.
[03:44] <bebop> im newbie of java and pbms are already raising: i have error in samples of xerces just downloaded
[03:44] <wasabi> And eclipse-base rm -rf's /usr/lib/eclipse and /usr/share/eclipse on clean install
[03:44] <wasabi> Which is fine since nobody has yet packaged any other plugins.
[03:44] <jbailey> Well.....
[03:44] <jbailey> The risk is clobbering something local that someone has done.
[03:44] <wasabi> Yeah.
[03:44] <jbailey> So it should really only be done on an upgrade, and if type can be narrowed, that would be great.
[03:45] <wasabi> I recognize it as a risk, but I don't think that at this stage it matters....
[03:45] <wasabi> First off, there's nothing people should be modifying in /usr/share/eclipse.
[03:45] <wasabi> jbailey, it's not an upgrade though.
[03:45] <jbailey> Right, but do thou not try to outthink the sysadmin, for he is mad and is therefore unpredictable.
[03:45] <wasabi> eclipse-base never previously existed.
[03:46] <jbailey> Yeah, hmm.
[03:46] <wasabi> I'm heading to work now. Let me know what you think. ;)
[03:46] <wasabi> bbs
[03:46] <jbailey> Will do, I'm just starting the build here on ppc.
[03:47] <wasabi> I know it won't work. Swt still doesn't build.
[03:47] <jbailey> Yeah, maybe I can convince it.
[03:47] <wasabi> But you are more than welcome to conquer that. ;)
[03:47] <wasabi> cya
[03:56] <jbailey> Compiling 484 source files to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:56] <jbailey> wtf?
[03:56] <jbailey> this is powerpc-linux...
[04:14] <mgalvin> hi all
[04:20] <robilad> hi mgalvin
[04:20] <wasabi_> howdy
[04:23] <jbailey> wasabi_: /tmp/ccDIVnqk.s:5112275: Error: operand out of range (0x0000000000008000 is not
[04:23] <jbailey> between 0xffffffffffff8000 and 0x0000000000007fff)
[04:23] <jbailey> Is this what you were seeing on ppc?
[04:23] <wasabi_> gcj thing?
[04:23] <wasabi_> No. that's new.
[04:24] <wasabi_> What I was talking about was most likely a simple build script problem.
[04:56] <jbailey> Got some info from the gcj folks.  Seems there's a hack to aot-compile that we ought to be using to split jar files.
[05:32] <jbailey> wasabi_: Any objections to me updating aot-compile from java-gcj-compat and using it in eclipse?
[05:32] <wasabi_> Depends what aot-compile is
[05:33] <wasabi_> Never noticed it before.
[05:33] <jbailey> It's a jar to .so wrapper script.
[05:33] <wasabi_> Oh.
[05:33] <wasabi_> New to me.
[05:33] <wasabi_> No objection.
[05:34] <jbailey> Apparently it now splits jar files for compilation to work around this bug I'm seeing on ppc.
[05:45] <wasabi_> So you see my symlink stuff?
[05:49] <jbailey> I haven't got that far yet, sorry.
[05:50] <jbailey> I followed the conversation in #gcj while looking at some kernel stuff for Fabio.


[01:56] <mup> Bug #1890513 opened: MAAS reports incorrect per NUMA node memory <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890513>
[02:02] <mup> Bug #1890513 changed: MAAS reports incorrect per NUMA node memory <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890513>
[02:05] <mup> Bug #1890513 opened: MAAS reports incorrect per NUMA node memory <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890513>
[02:14] <mup> Bug #1890513 changed: MAAS reports incorrect per NUMA node memory <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890513>
[02:17] <mup> Bug #1890513 opened: MAAS reports incorrect per NUMA node memory <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890513>
[04:11] <mup> Bug #1890527 opened: After adding virsh machine with existing address, multiple machines share address info <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890527>
[04:14] <mup> Bug #1890527 changed: After adding virsh machine with existing address, multiple machines share address info <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890527>
[04:17] <mup> Bug #1890527 opened: After adding virsh machine with existing address, multiple machines share address info <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890527>
[04:26] <mup> Bug #1890527 changed: After adding virsh machine with existing address, multiple machines share address info <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890527>
[04:29] <mup> Bug #1890527 opened: After adding virsh machine with existing address, multiple machines share address info <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890527>
[07:02] <smallsam> hey all, just jumped on to ask if the team is aware of issues with some of the image mirrors:
[07:02] <smallsam> # wget -v http://images.maas.io/ephemeral-v3/daily/bionic/amd64/20200804/ga-18.04/lowlatency/boot-kernel
[07:02] <smallsam> (images.maas.io)|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80... connected.
[12:00] <mup> Bug #1890581 opened: LXD KVM doesn't know about network connectivity <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890581>
[13:00] <mup> Bug #1890590 opened: LXD composed KVM machines have disconnected network configuration <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890590>


[05:36] <itskevinn> yo
[05:36] <itskevinn> oh wait is this purely a support only channel?
[06:04] <guiverc> Yes this is the Kubuntu support channel, use a -offtopic for general chat
 Hi everybody, so I'm running Kubuntu 20.04 on a HP laptop. Sometimes when I try to shut down the system (using the menu) it restarts instead. What could it be?
 Anyone got a fix for display showing flashing glitches
[07:08] <diogenes_> YesEyeCan, try to change the backend from opengl to xrender.
[07:16] <Guest48984> Good morning
[07:35] <amprxc> Hello, I'm tryting to install Kubuntu on my laptop from an external CR ROM writer / reader which is connected via USB to my computer. I'm able to boot on Kubuntu, but this last doesn't detect my laptop disk. When I run "fdisk -l", I can only see the CDROM disk space. Then, of course, the installer tells me that there is not enough place available.
[07:35] <amprxc> Any idea ? Thanks
[07:51] <voicu> hi everyone
[07:51] <voicu> any idea why the problem seen in this question happens? https://askubuntu.com/questions/162391/how-do-i-fix-my-locale-issue
[07:51] <voicu> I have it with every install of kubuntu since at least 18.04
[07:51] <voicu> and the question has been viewed almost a million times now
[11:52] <user|62852> hello how can I install the nvidia driver on kubuntu?
[11:53] <user|62852> hello how can I install the nvidia driver on kubuntu?
[11:53] <diogenes_> user|62852, from driver-manager.
[11:56] <user|62852> i didn't install the mananger driver how can i do
[12:01] <Kalov> user|62852: propietary drivers?
[12:01] <user|62852> yes
[12:02] <user|62852> exit
[12:02] <Kalov> did you download them frmo nvidia?
[12:02] <user|62852> nvidia website
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:03] <user|62852> speak italian
[12:04] <Kalov> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1254857/installing-additional-drivers-in-kubuntu
[12:04] <Kalov> user|62852:  ^
[12:04] <user|62852> yes but I have not installed the mananger driver on kubuntu
[12:05] <Kalov> how so?
[12:05] <Kalov> did you try, sudo kubuntu-driver-manager
[12:05] <user|62852> ok i try
[12:06] <user|62852> thank you very much for helping
[13:27] <Ati> since the latest kernel update 5.4.0-47 my system can't boot. When I boot with 5.4.0-45 it starts but sends an error message about firmware. How can I fix this?
 Anyone know why I can't send files from kde into my android phone?
[16:13] <drupol> Hellow
[16:13] <BluesKaj> drupol, o/
[16:14] <drupol> I upgraded to KDE Neon a few days ago and I'd like to go back to regular ubuntu version. how can I do that ?
[16:15] <BluesKaj> ubuntu or kubuntu, either one will need a clean istall
[16:15] <BluesKaj> kde-neon is not an ubuntu flavour
[16:15] <drupol> But when I do: lsb_release -a
[16:16] <drupol> I get this:
[16:16] <drupol> No LSB modules are available.
[16:16] <drupol> Distributor ID: Neon
[16:16] <drupol> Description:    KDE neon User Edition 5.19
[16:16] <drupol> Release:        20.04
[16:16] <drupol> Codename:       focal
[16:17] <drupol> I get this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fmkcJ2bJ7H/
[16:17] <drupol> It seems to me that this is a Ubuntu KDE Neon flavour, am I wrong?
[16:18] <drupol> In /etc/apt/sources.list, I found this: deb http://archive.neon.kde.org/user focal main
[16:18] <BluesKaj> it's based on ubuntu, but it's a "fork" not a flavour
[16:18] <drupol> Oh.
[16:18] <drupol> Do you think I can go back to the original Ubuntu?
 @drupol, there is no "upgrade" to neon - how did you do that?
[16:19] <BluesKaj> back up your data to a separate drive or partition then install (k)ubuntu or whatever flavour you want, kubuntu uses the kde/plasma desktop
[16:20] <drupol> niceplaces: I added the line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:20] <drupol> See: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=309&t=135278
 @drupol, so you just upgraded some packages i guess. switch back to the ubuntu repos and you should be goos i believe ;)
[16:21] <BluesKaj> that's not officailly supported here afaik
[16:21] <drupol> Ok I will try, so, just removing the line is enough you think?
[16:21] <BluesKaj> but that's your choice
[16:22] <BluesKaj> i don't know ...somehow I doubt it , but you can try
[16:22] <drupol> nikp3h: I removed the line, did apt-get update, upgrade, dist-upgrade,...
[16:22] <drupol> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/pcQ5zJKh/
[16:22] <drupol> That's what I have
[16:23] <BluesKaj> doesn't load here
[16:23] <BluesKaj> anyway i have to go
 @drupol, i believe you should backup your data and try a clean reinstall as suggested ;)
[16:28] <drupol> nikp3h: That's impossible... I have a corporate laptop... I can't reinstall :^(
[16:49] <drupol> How can I reinstall 20.04 from a terminal?
 @drupol, buy a new laptop... ok sorry that wasn't funny... but you shouldn't have done wat you did in the first place since it is discouraged everywhere.. … do you have any backup available?....
[16:56] <drupol> nikp3h: no, no backup. I guess there is a way to reinstall this properly
 Hey guys, I minimized Kubuntu installation window and it just disappeared. How do I get it back?
[19:24] <serenity> maybe alt+tab and toggle to it
 Unfortunately, alt+tab doesn't seem to do anything
[19:26] <serenity> isn't there an install icon on the desktop?
 Desktop is empty, ie just a picture and mouse pointer, no icons, no taskbar
 I suppose I need to hit Continue or some other button on that minimized window for the installation to finish... But can't find a way to restore that window :/
[19:32] <serenity> is this a live environment?
 I'm not sure what you are asking for. It's a personal computer with unfinished Kubuntu installation and no other OS
[19:36] <serenity> If this pc is empty, why not start overß
[19:36] <serenity> ?
 ie reboot...
 Will do that if everything else fails, but seems a little excessive
[19:39] <serenity> excessive? We are talking about an empty machine and no config has been done yet ;)
 I mean, reinstalling the whole OS seems a little excessive for having minimized a window
 @Andrius, turn it off, boot from live usb again
 and you'll be good to go
 @Andrius, He won't be reinstalling, since he doesn't have anything installed in the first place
 Just turn it off and on
 I had to hold power button down for 5 or so seconds to power off. Partitions on the disk got messed up, I'm reformatting it atm
 @Andrius, using gparted?
 Is anybody know how to use omada ? It's a software for tplink access points controller
 Anyway, if there's no way to restore a minimized window, the option should be disabled imo. Maybe I will figure out how to report it someday. Thanks and bye.
 @Andrius, It is not a general problem I guess, I myself have heard it for the first time
 Try installing first and then check if the bug stays
 Hello, will there be a Kubuntu 20.10 Beta coming out on October 1st or is that only happening with the regular ubuntu version?
[21:55] <krytarik> Yes, that's also for all flavors.


[00:57] <meena> holmanb, minimal, pretty sure Hetzner's latest iteration on failover IPs are also /32. I wonder how their load balancers work
[17:16] <blackboxsw> meh daily builds for Ubuntu Lunarare failing w/ merge conflicts. I'll probably drop a new PR up that we'd like to get sync'd today https://code.launchpad.net/~cloud-init-dev/+recipe/cloud-init-daily-devel
[17:21] <falcojr> weird...merge main into ubuntu/devel works fine but merge from ubuntu/devel into main fails
[17:24] <falcojr> blackboxsw: are our build recipes backwards? It's merging ubuntu/devel into main to build our dailies, but that's not how we build our releases
[17:25] <falcojr> and I'm also not sure why it would matter...but apparently it does
[17:28] <blackboxsw> falcojr: I get that same conflict on doc-requirements.txt merging main into ubuntu/devel - or - merging ubuntu/devel into main
[17:29] <falcojr> blackboxsw: Ah ok, I tried it again and same. I must have had one of my branches in a different state.
[17:29] <falcojr> glad my git mental model doesn't need to go out the window
[17:29] <blackboxsw> falcojr: yeah and I don't see any difference. even merging in separate order
[17:31] <blackboxsw> I had wanted to go through your new_upstream_snapshot PR  https://github.com/canonical/uss-tableflip/pull/103 to attempt to resolve this merge conflict too (and get bearings on the changeset there).
[17:31] -ubottu:#cloud-init- Pull 103 in canonical/uss-tableflip "new_upstream_snapshot.py" [Open]
[17:32] <blackboxsw> Given that we are trying to simplify the d/changelog creation during snapshots I thought it'd be worth a spin here (and maybe a release to Lunar anyway this week)
[19:27] <Jason> does anyone know if there is an equiv for "d-i partman-auto/init_automatically_partition select biggest_free" in clloud-init to partition drives ?


[04:37] <jin_> jibel, Hi! jibel,
[04:37] <jin_> jibel, Telegram has a new ticket need QA support on testing:
[04:37] <jin_> jibel, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1282
[04:38] <jin_> jibel, could you please add it into your scrum board?
[04:38] <jin_> jibel, really thanks! :))))
[09:05] <oSoMoN> rvr, good morning! I commented on https://trello.com/c/in0lBeoh/3075-1273-ubuntu-landing-020-webbrowser-app-osomon , can you reliably reproduce that hangouts crash?
[09:45] <rvr> oSoMoN: Hi! Nope, it was very late yesterday. I'll try to reproduce.
[09:46] <oSoMoN> rvr, thanks!
[10:08] <rvr> oSoMoN: The video image shows inverted to me in the Hangout screen, take a look to trello
[10:09] <rvr> oSoMoN: I'll be back soon, comment there
[10:19] <oSoMoN> rvr, answered on the card
[11:53] <Mirv> robru: I'd need to target a xenial only silo to overlay PPA, how can that be done nowadays?
[12:03] <jin_> rvr, Hello man!
[12:04] <jin_> rvr, there is a click ticket request need your support ;)
[12:08] <jin_> jibel, ping
[12:10] <Mirv> robru: it'd be nice if the "ubuntu" dropdown could have eg "stable phone overlay" as an option
[12:53] <jin_> sil2100, Hello
[13:22] <rvr> oSoMoN: How can I switch to the front camera?
[13:23] <oSoMoN> rvr, you’ll need to go to the browser settings, under privacy, set the default camera to be the front one, then reload the page
[13:23] <rvr> Poor jin_, nobody was around
[13:24] <rvr> oSoMoN: Ok
[13:25] <ogra_> oh, thats nice !
[13:25] <ogra_> hangouts !
[14:10] <rvr> oSoMoN: I just added more comments
[14:10] <rvr> ogra_: It's a bit slow, but it works
[14:11] <ogra_> on what do you test ?
[14:11] <rvr> Frieza
[14:11] <ogra_> http://i.imgur.com/gSPT5uj.png
[14:11] <ogra_> not slow for me :)
[14:11] <ogra_> (manually hacked the UA override here though)
[14:19] <oSoMoN> rvr, regarding your second point (switching does nothing), this is a known bug in oxide: bug #1535818
[14:19] <ubot5`> bug 1535818 in Oxide "sourceId and other constraints for getUserMedia are ignored" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1535818
[14:19] <oSoMoN> rvr, and about your first point, what do you mean by "a bad video feed" ?
[14:19] <rvr> oSoMoN: Oh, I forgot to share the screenshot, one moment
[14:20] <rvr> oSoMoN: Attached
[14:21] <oSoMoN> thx
[14:35] <rvr> oSoMoN: Another issue: start Hangouts, power off the device and let it suspend for some minutes, power on the device: webbrowser app closes. There is no crash file.
[15:59] <boiko> jibel: hi, britney failed on silo 55, but it is the same unity8 failure that we hit in a previous telephony-service silo
[15:59] <boiko> jibel: can we bypass it?
[16:23] <rvr> oSoMoN: Any comment on the closing problem?
[16:24] <oSoMoN> rvr, not yet, been in meetings the whole afternoon, looking now
[16:26] <oSoMoN> rvr, note that bug #1565055 is about hangouts reporting that this is an unsupported browser, so if this is fixed with silo 20, I’d recommend to go with it and report/fix the usability issues with hangouts separately
[16:26] <ubot5`> bug 1565055 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "google hangouts thinks we are unsupported" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1565055
[16:26] <oSoMoN> rvr, the silo merely adds user-agent string overrides to make hangouts think they run on chrome android/desktop
[16:27] <oSoMoN> so crashes and other issues are unlikely to be related to that specific change
[16:27] <oSoMoN> that said, I appreciate your thorough testing, making the hangouts experience polished is a top priority for OTA11
[16:32] <rvr> oSoMoN: Hmmm... ok. I'll approve this silo and create bugs for those issues.
[16:32] <oSoMoN> rvr, thanks, I’ll be addressing them this week
[16:51] <oSoMoN> Mirv, sil2100: would you mind publishing silo 20? there’s a packaging change that prevents me from doing so (the change is https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/webbrowser-app/fix_qt56_qdoc_move/+merge/290830)
[16:59] <sil2100> oSoMoN: on it
[16:59] <Mirv> oSoMoN: on i... ok, not
[17:00] <Mirv> oSoMoN: hey, that's a packaging diff that's already approved by coredev :)
[17:00] <Mirv> (not that you can publish it anyway)
[17:01] <sil2100> ;)
[17:02] <sil2100> hah, ok, well... qttools5-dev-tools is in universe but all is good, since we now allow non-main build-deps if they do not generate a new universe bin-dep
[17:02] <sil2100> So good
[17:02] <Mirv> indeed
[17:13] <robru> Mirv: at the moment you'll need to use a regular xenial silo then just manually copy to overlay when you're ready
[17:17] <Mirv> robru: ok, thanks. it'd be nice though, these 53 packages will potentially land in the overlay at some point, some diffs:s etc against specifically overlay would be nice https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-011/+packages . but there will be naturally related changes when the y opens and we figure out vivid/xenial/y story at some point.
[17:18] <Mirv> and manual copy always works too.
[19:20] <robru> Mirv: ok, i resurrected the destination field only for non-dual silos, and set your xenial silo to overlay, and regenerated diffs. please have a look
[21:08] <renatu> trainguards,  could you help me silo 001, the arm build is getting canceled: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1241
[21:11] <robru> renatu: OK, retried, but i never saw that issue before. If it happens again you should raise it with an lp person like Colin Watson or William Grant
[21:12] <renatu> robru, as you can see here in the log it was the second time
[21:14] <robru> renatu: might be worth talking to them, then. I've never seen builds get cancelled unless somebody cancelled them
[21:14] <robru> Eg maybe somebody is cancelling these for a reason


[22:04] <airurando> finally replied to Barrys email
[22:05] <airurando> posted the idea of a reboot meeting
[22:07] <airurando> czajkowski: change in work pattern, didn't get to blog post as hoped this weekend. Will get to it soon and would be honoured, as always, if you decide to repost.
[22:18] <czajkowski> no worries


[00:12] <asac> yeah but a hack ... would have been interesting to find the real reason for this :)
[08:11] <[reed]> asac: tree is still closed... I'll land tomorrow
[08:11] <[reed]> night ;)
[10:13] <armin76> asac: feel free to find the real reason, it took me all the afternoon :)
[20:23] <armin76> [reed]: asac: Ubulette: you know what 'wallet' does? it's an extension
[20:23] <Ubulette> old password management
[20:24] <Ubulette> obsolete now
[20:24] <armin76> heh
[20:24] <armin76> then i know why i got that empty dialog :/
[20:24] <armin76> thanks
[21:31] <armin76> Ubulette: https://bugs.gentoo.org/ <- you have buttons in there to add an exception?
[21:32] <Ubulette> no
[21:32] <armin76> heh
[21:32] <armin76> with standalone you do
[21:32] <Ubulette> really ? the text says to go to advanced encryption settings
[21:33] <Ubulette> it matches with the description of the bug that introduced that
[21:34] <armin76> at least with beta2
[21:35] <armin76> http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/ssl.png
[21:35] <armin76> that's if i don't use shared xulrunner
[21:39] <Ubulette> if get "If you still wish to add an exception for this site, you can do so in your advanced encryption settings." instead of the 2 buttons
[21:39] <armin76> i know
[21:39] <armin76> that only happens if you use xulrunner
[21:39] <armin76> weird, huh?
[21:40] <armin76> just download a bin from mozilla.org, and you'll see the same behaviour
[21:46] <Ubulette> http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/browser/base/content/browser.js#2132
[21:47] <armin76> yup, what?
[22:02] <armin76> it gets it from http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/dom/locales/en-US/chrome/netErrorApp.dtd instead of http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/browser/locales/en-US/chrome/overrides/netError.dtd
[22:05] <Ubulette> yep
[22:05] <Ubulette> we load the wrong file using libxul
[22:13] <armin76> so it's an upstream issue?
[22:13] <Ubulette> i think so.