[00:00] <raspberrypifan> idk i heard about sudo i
[00:00] <raspberrypifan> sudo -i
[00:00] <raspberrypifan> that works well
[00:01] <Beldar> raspberrypifan, Sure just be aware if in a gui use gksudo and you can mess up permissions being in root in specific instances in ubuntu.
[00:02] <raspberrypifan> well i dont think ill need a gui with sudo
[00:03] <Beldar> just being sure your basically informed raspberrypifan and note every person here used your nick in addressing you.
[00:03] <raspberrypifan> is this some sort of policy?
[00:04] <Beldar> raspberrypifan, It is a norm if you want clear communications, the channel flies at times and is just a courtesy.
[00:04] <SchrodingersScat> raspberrypifan: makes it a lot easier to follow things when there's more people getting help.
[00:04] <raspberrypifan> well at least y'all are nice
[00:10] <preyalone> Why does my Node.js server silently fail when daemonized with Upstart? https://github.com/mcandre/node-ios7crypt/
[00:11] <jnoob22> error message?
[00:11] <jnoob22> are you using the node that comes with apt-get ?
[00:11] <raspberrypifan> is there a version of ubuntu with no gui?
[00:11] <preyalone> I tried enabling `console log` and `console output`, but no messages were ever logged.
[00:11] <preyalone> Using Node.js 0.10.15, from NVM.
[00:11] <jnoob22> raspberrypifan, yeah it's called Ubuntu server edition ;)
[00:12] <jnoob22> ok preyalone
[00:12] <raspberrypifan> cool i might use that one day
[00:12] <jnoob22> raspberrypifan, besides you can always change the runlevel for any Ubuntu install
[00:12] <jnoob22> go to /etc/inittab and change the default runlevel to 3
[00:13] <raspberrypifan> but doesnt it still load the gui
[00:13] <k1l> !text | raspberrypifan jnoob22
[00:13] <jnoob22> yep you can do that too. but changing it in inittab will change it for always
[00:13] <raspberrypifan> so whats the difference with server edition then?
[00:13] <jnoob22> raspberrypifan, it shouldn't. unless inittab is now rendered useless
[00:14] <jnoob22> the short answer raspberrypifan is that server edition is for servers and Ubuntu Desktop is for desktops but really you would need to consult release notes on either distro version to get that kind of empirical info.
[00:14] <raspberrypifan> hmm well eventually i hope to run freeswitch
[00:14] <raspberrypifan> so id probably have to run it on a server version
[00:15] <David-A> raspberrypifan: it does not "load" the gui, but the gui is still "installed". so after booting and logging in in text mode, you can start the gui with startx or something
[00:15] <k1l> dont run startx on ubuntu
[00:15] <k1l> start the lightdm if you want the desktop to be started
[00:15] <jnoob22> you can run it on any version most likely raspberrypifan
[00:16] <David-A> raspberrypifan: with server edition the gui is not installed by default, but you can of course install it afterwards. it is the same software repository.
[00:16] <raspberrypifan> interseting
[00:16] <jnoob22> yeah I dont think it has much software you won't find on Desktop edition
[00:17] <jnoob22> it's the same thing really. Linux is simply a kernel. You can install whatever software on these things as needed.
[00:17] <oldvirus> distrowatch.com
[00:17] <k1l> the server edition is  an ubuntu with out an installed desktop. it shares same kernel and same packages in the repos. if you install "ubuntu-desktop" you will get a full ubuntu
[00:17] <jnoob22> Certainly it's not like the old Windows 2000 that has different features.
[00:17] <jnoob22> between editions
[00:27] <ajf> Isn’t it amazing that 12.10 will happily run on the 14.04 kernel
[00:27] <ajf> try that on Windows lol
[00:32] <raspberrypifan> reticulating splines lol
[00:33] <Beldar> ajf, 12.10 is eol and not supported
[00:33] <ajf> I know.
[00:33] <ajf> Hence upgrading my VPS
[00:33] <byte> n8
[00:34] <raspberrypifan> anyone a sims fan
[00:34] <Beldar> mindless posts hence ignore
[00:37] <raspberrypifan> its funny
[00:46] <moises> How install driver scaner genius ColorPage-vivid 1200xe?
[00:47] <moises> alguien sabe como puedo instalar un scaner genius ColorPage-vivid 1200xe
[00:59] <raspberrypifan> no hay el driver en apt-get
[00:59] <raspberrypifan> moises:
[01:02] <Beldar> moises, English channel and xsane and simple scan are your options.
[01:04] <dan[work]> need help with update-grub "password_pbkdf2: not found"
[01:05] <pr0kch0p> Anyone know where the links to the Ubuntu One downloader for Windows have gone to? I'm stuck in an infinite loop trying to download my Ubuntu One files. Here's the URL Canonical gives: http://ubuntuone.com/u1-downloader/u1-downloader-win.zip
[01:05] <Beldar> dan[work], Your user password is not working?
[01:05] <pr0kch0p> which points back to https://one.ubuntu.com/shutdown/
[01:07] <ajf> Need help
[01:07] <dan[work]> Beldar: was following http://askubuntu.com/questions/31605/how-to-secure-grub-recovery-mode
[01:07] <ajf> vsftpd: “500 OOPS: config file not owned by correct user, or not a file"
[01:08] <ajf> ah
[01:08] <ajf> fixed it
[01:08] <dan[work]> Beldar: the problem is update-grub reports 'password: not found' when copying and pasting exactly
[01:08] <dan[work]> Beldar: followed some obscure pbkdf2 password generation alternative but result is the same
[01:09] <Beldar> dan[work], Ah never used this nor seen it here in years of hanging, someone might know.
[01:09] <dan[work]> Beldar: appreciate your honesty :) I will wait around and hope someone can solve it
[01:11] <healsatan> anyone here a networking guru?
[01:12] <pr0kch0p> Well, in the meantime I'll see if I can't figure out mover.io - I would have hoped Canonical would have wound done One file storage better than this.
[01:12] <catalase> do you know which version of apache the 14.04 ubuntu server lts repository will get
[01:16] <catalase> anyone know how to add repository for latest ubuntu binary
[01:16] <catalase> err, httpd binary
[01:16] <TSCHAKMac> in RedHat/CentOS, there is an Authentication Setup utility, both at setup, and after install, to allow for configuration with Kerberos and LDAP domains. Is there an equivalent on Ubuntu? or will I just need to manually set up NSS and PAM?
[01:18] <Griffinstein> anyone know how to install 32 but libraries
[01:24] <james41382_> i'm at a friends and we're going to format his computer and reinstall. he has windows 7 now, but we want to dual boot. i haven't installed linux on a system with uefi before so i'm curious of how that works. can someone point me in the right direction
[01:25] <grubles> google "dual boot windows 7 ubuntu uefi"
[01:26] <james41382_> grubles: is it possible? when i asked about it a while back i seem to recall people simply recommending using legacy boot instead of uefi
[01:26] <Beldar> !uefi | james41382_
[01:27] <james41382_> Beldar: ok,ay thanks.
[01:30] <Griffinstein> james41382: you can dual boot with UEFI its pretty easy
[01:31] <catalase> anyone know how to check which version of apache the 14.04 ubuntu server lts repository will install?
[01:32] <Beldar> catalase, The one in the ubuntu repos for 14.04 same repos.
[01:33] <catalase> Beldar, yes but how do i check this
[01:33] <catalase> 2.4 probably, but i want to know 2.4.X
[01:33] <Beldar> !apache
[01:33] <NaStYdoG> Hai, is there a way to clean swap?
[01:34] <Beldar> NaStYdoG, Are you sure you have swapped and why?
[01:36] <Beldar> http://askubuntu.com/questions/1357/how-to-empty-swap-if-there-is-free-ram
[01:40] <catalase> checking for APR... no. configure: error: APR not found.  Please read the documentation.
[01:40] <catalase> fail
[01:40] <NaStYdoG> thanks
[01:40] <catalase> trying to configure apache 2.4.9 for install
[01:40] <catalase> but receive this error
[01:40] <healsatan> trouble connecting to wifi, any advice?
[01:41] <jzero88> Hello, anyone familiar with using 'nmcli'?
[01:41] <Beldar> healsatan, exact details, what you have tried and the hardware.
[01:42] <healsatan> Network:   Card-1: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 driver iwlwifi ver in-tree: bus-ID 03:00.0
[01:42] <healsatan>            IF: wlan0 state down mac <filter>
[01:42] <healsatan>            Card-2: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection driver e1000e ver 2.3.2-k port 6080 bus-ID 00:19.0
[01:42] <healsatan>            IF: eth0 state up speed 1000 Mbps duplex full mac <filter>
[01:43] <Beldar> jzero88, Help here is based on actual issues described.
[01:43] <healsatan> read online i could revert kernel to earlier version but thought id ask here before trying
[01:44] <jzero88> Beldar: ok then :D well locally 'nmcli' will bring up a connection just fine, but remotely I get a "Error: Connection activation failed: Not authorized to control networking." error. I've tried with 'sudo' as well and get "Error: Connection activation failed: no valid VPN secrets."
[01:45] <Beldar> jzero88, Not to me the channel.
[01:46] <jzero88> I'm sure the channel can read it as well
[01:48] <helichopter> Hey so my hard drive failed about a month ago. I could still use the computer with read-only capabilities, but after I shut it down I was afraid to restart it for fear of corrupting everything. I've heard that I can use an ubuntu live cd to recover the files from the failed partition. Is there anything I should be aware of before trying this?
[01:49] <dabyzantine> Yes you can. Linux works great for recovering files. just slave it in. you can use linux off the cd.
[01:50] <dabyzantine> you just want to have an external drive or a jump drive to xfer the files to once you find them
[01:50] <David-A> helichopter: remember, there are never any guarantees that you can recover some or all files from a failing harddisk.
[01:51] <dabyzantine> true, if the wrong sectors are bad, you are out of luck, but i have had much success with using linus live cd on a failed hdd in the past
[01:52] <David-A> helichopter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[01:55] <catalase> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[01:55] <catalase> anybody know where to get a c compiler lol
[01:57] <David-A> helichopter: I recommend you have an extra harddisk, external or a new internal, with plenty of space. then use gddrescue to copy the important partition of the damaged drive into an image file on the fresh drive. from there then use recovery tools to try salvage files.
[01:58] <brontosaurusrex> catalase, which gcc < returns what?
[01:58] <catalase> i am trying to make install for apr-1.5.1 apache core
[01:58] <catalase> some runtime library i think
[01:59] <catalase> alas i do not have a C compiler
[01:59] <helichopter> David-A: okay thanks I really appreciate it
[02:01] <David-A> helichopter: the idea is that if the damaged drive get worse by time, gddrescue is a fast and safe way to get the data from still accessable blocks.
[02:02] <David-A> helichopter: but remember, "fast" here means many hours and maybe days. gddrescue may wait a long time for bad blocks, and will also do retries.
[02:03] <Beldar> David-A, Your descriptions are clouded by bias and a need to prove an opinion.
[02:04] <Diamondcite> ddrescue.. as long as it seems to perform.. did a really good job the few times I had a dying drive
[02:04] <Diamondcite> Had to use it several times when people brought in computers with dying HDDs
[02:05] <Diamondcite> But the hdd dying bit wasn't initially noticeable due to the sheer amount of running apps on the severely infected windows install =/
[02:22] <A_Pickle> So I've got an issue.
[02:23] <A_Pickle> I'm running Ubuntu Server 32-bit on an old Fujitsu Lifebook P1510D (a swivel-screen tablet notebook with an ULV Pentium M, 512 MB of DDR, and a 30 GB HDD) and when I restart it, it's not on the network, even though it's plugged in.
[02:24] <A_Pickle> I have to run a dhclient eth0 to get it's IP every time I restart it.
[02:24] <A_Pickle> Is there a way to have it do so automatically, or is it just not necessary because I won't ever need to restart this thing?
[02:25] <ianorlin> you need to restart for kernel updates
[02:25] <Psil0Cybin> ugh i keep dealing with freezes in which case nothing works, cannot get into tty, or do anything but a cold reboot, i have tried it all :( even the keys that are supposed to work do not work during the freeze...seems to happen every couple of hrs, but i cant find a fix :(
[02:35] <james41382_> so i have a computer i want to dual boot windows 7 / ubuntu, but i'm curious because the ubuntu installer has options to 1) delete everything and install or 2) custom, which i suppose we're doing because we want to keep windows as well. though this computer is uefi and i see a efi boot partition option in the custom config. do i need to create a efi boot parition on /boot and then a ext4 partition for / ?
[02:37] <Foxhoundz> I set up samba share on my linux box, but when I try to access the shared folder on Windows it prompts for a user login and password
[02:37] <Foxhoundz> I provide the account on the ubuntu machine but it still refuses
[02:37] <Foxhoundz> do I have to provide a domain value as well?
[02:37] <Beldar> james41382_, First image/clone W7 to an external. Than use the W7 disk manager to resize W7 leaving an unallocated space, bit the ubuntu in efi and install, it should do all the partitioning for you.
[02:37] <Foxhoundz> e.g. pc-domain\user?
[02:37] <Beldar> bit=boot
[02:39] <Beldar> james41382_, Your description  sounds like the gpt partitioning is still there.
[02:45] <catalase> fuck i keep getting software connection abort w/ putty
[02:45] <scx> hello
[02:46] <holstein> !language
[02:46] <scx> can anyone show me output of above command?
[02:46] <catalase> i keep getting software connection abort w/ putty
[02:46] <somsip> catalase: enable debugging to see if it helps
[02:46] <scx> ls -la /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
[02:47] <scx> thanks in advance
[02:47] <james41382_> Beldar: i checked in windows and it shows the partitioning style is mbr.
[02:48] <Llynix> trying to get nvidia drivers to install on a machine.. try as I might nouveau shows as the driver.  Currently the nvidia-304 driver is activated but not in use.
[02:48] <scx> if you have 32-bit system: ls -la /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
[02:48] <Llynix> I swear I've tried EVERYTHING
[02:48] <holstein> Llynix: what is specified i the xorg.conf?
[02:48] <holstein> in*
[02:48] <Foxhoundz> Llynix: everything????
[02:48] <Beldar> james41382_, So this is a W8, now W7 computer correct?
[02:48] <Llynix> holstein: driver: nvidia
[02:49] <Llynix> holstein:    Driver         "nvidia"
[02:50] <Llynix> I get this in the kern.log NVRM: The NVIDIA probe routine was not called for 1 device(s)
[02:50] <james41382_> Beldar: is a custom build pc. it has w7 home loaded on there with 20gb unallocated.
[02:50] <Beldar> james41382_, So just a uefi bios?
[02:50] <james41382_> Beldar: the bios is uefi, yes.
[02:50] <scx> Llynix: did you blacklist nouveau?
[02:50] <Llynix> Foxhoundz: everything I could find on the internet.. I've been round and round on this computer with two video cards
[02:51] <Beldar> james41382_, Can you run parted -l in ubuntu and pastebin it?
[02:51] <Beldar> sudo parted -l*
[02:51] <james41382_> Beldar: it's booting from the cd now.
[02:51] <holstein> Llynix: you may want to elaboarate about the 2 video cards, and why the open driver isnt meeting your needs.. and try the xorgedgers PPA, and also blacklisting the open driver..
[02:52] <Llynix> scx: nouveau might be over blacklisted.. it is in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf and nvidia-installer-blacklist-nouveau.conf
[02:53] <Beldar> !bootinfo | james41382_, even better
[02:53] <Llynix> holstein: originally the computer was working fine.. but with the latest kernel update we had problems suspending.. I installed the nvidia properitary driver then and it fixed my suspend problems but graphics problems continued.. mainly minecraft wasn't working.. so I tried installing another video card..
[02:54] <Beldar> james41382_, My curiosity is the partition table and how W7 was installed basically and partition types.
[02:54] <scx> can only show me output of this command?: ls -la /lib/i386-linux-gnu/
[02:54] <Llynix> well actually I tried installing the updated nvidia drivers and those borked the system.. so I booted off a live cd and removed the current nvidia..
[02:54] <Llynix> then tried the other video card..
[02:54] <Llynix> I haven't been able to get nvidia drivers to work since
[02:55] <james41382_> Beldar: is there a way to get to a terminal from the installation?
[02:55] <Beldar> james41382_, What installation?
[02:55] <akurilin> Quick question: why are rc0 and rc6 symlinks exactly the same in ubuntu?
[02:55] <james41382_> the interface that comes up after booting from the installation cd
[02:55] <scx> james41382_: did you tried ctrl-alt-2?
[02:55] <akurilin> Also rc2,3,4,5 are all the same
[02:56] <Beldar> james41382_, ctrl-alt-t or the top button left panel then search with terminal, run that bootscript instead.
[02:56] <Llynix> holstein: I just want to run minecraft.. so my six year old will quit bothering me ;)
[02:57] <james41382_> Beldar: from the installation these things do not bring up a terminal. would it be better if i had mounted the iso and a vritual disk from within windows? would i have access to a terminal this way?
[02:59] <somsip> Llynix: tablet and MC Pocket Edition ;-)
[02:59] <Llynix> we have the tablet.. the tablet doesn't have horses..
[02:59] <Llynix> it has to have horses
[02:59] <somsip> Llynix: Survival craft does - free too. OT here though
[03:00] <Beldar> james41382_, the only thing valid in windows was making a unallocated space. Not sure if we are on the same page here.
[03:01] <zyan> I try to join #ubuntu off-topic, but it replicates the #ubuntu channel.
[03:02] <Beldar> james41382_, If this is a ubuntu download and running live the unity desktop should show a panel on the left
[03:02] <Llynix> it appears I don't have GLX loaded with the nouvea driver...
[03:02] <Llynix> I was curious here.. because it used to be with the nouveau driver minecraft worked..
[03:02] <Llynix> so maybe the problem is deeper..
[03:03] <A_Pickle> So I've got an issue.
[03:03] <A_Pickle> I'm running Ubuntu Server 32-bit on an old Fujitsu Lifebook P1510D (a swivel-screen tablet notebook with an ULV Pentium M, 512 MB of DDR, and a 30 GB HDD) and when I restart it, it's not on the network, even though it's plugged in.
[03:03] <A_Pickle> I have to run a dhclient eth0 to get it's IP every time I restart it.
[03:03] <A_Pickle> Is there a way to have it do so automatically, or is it just not necessary because I won't ever need to restart this thing?
[03:05] <Beldar> james41382_, Be really careful the words you use in this from the installation means you have installed, the disc booted before installing is a live environment, these words if misconstrued can have wrong info passed is all.
[03:05] <james41382_> Beldar: i installed w7, shrunk the partition so i have 20gb free, then booted from the installation cd i made from the ubuntu 14.04 iso download, but the only options i seem to have are to "erase everything and install" or to do a custom partitioning
[03:05] <james41382_> ahh okay i see the miscommunication... yes it is *not* yet installe
[03:06] <Beldar> james41382_, Close that gui and follow the link I will prompt the bot to give you and post the script made with it in a pastebin.
[03:06] <Beldar> !bootinfo | james41382_
[03:07] <Beldar> james41382_, Did you boot to the desktop or just run install from the first gui that has a install, try or memory test?
[03:10] <james41382_> Beldar: i didn't run the installation, it started that on it's own when booting, but after i cliced quit it went back to the gui and i see the "install ubuntu 14.04 lts" icon
[03:11] <Beldar> james41382_, I have some other things to take care of. Boot to the desktop and ask the channel for help than, choose the try ubuntu option to get there.
[03:11] <brontos> chromium shows up as a huge interface on my ubuntugnome.  Everything else shows up at correct resolution, but chromium looks like it is at 800x600 resolution
[03:11] <brontos> any ideas why?
[03:11] <brontos> or how to reset it?
[03:16] <OmegaVII> Does anyone have problem on Chrome 35 with ibus?
[03:16] <OmegaVII> specially on the address bar
[03:18] <james41382_> Beldar: http://paste.debian.net/107515/
[03:20]  * waver drink
[03:21] <Beldar> james41382_, So your right this is a msdos mbr setup, does the install gui you were at have a install alongside or to the unallocated?
[03:21] <james41382_> Beldar: i am not sure what you question is.. =/
[03:22] <james41382_> Beldar: is simply has an icon on the desktop that says "install ubuntu 14.04 lts" or i can do some stuff in the live environment like use firefox, etc.
[03:24] <Beldar> james41382_, Your situation is rather basic many on the channel here can help, I need to take care of other issues. Just the right instructions will get you set up.
[03:25] <james41382_> i don't understand why my only 2 options are to erase the disk or to create custom partitions and furthermore with the custom option i don't seem to have options there to setup encryption or lvm2..
[03:36] <crankharder> I ran 'service stop lightdm' which I guess killed off any gui - how to I restart something so i can log in?
[03:42] <Bashing-om> crankharder: Try -> sudo service lightdm start <-.
[03:43] <Bashing-om> james41382_: What does the terminal commands: -> sudo fdisk -lu , sudo parted -l <- relate to us what the disk partitioning is presently.
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys I get complete freezes frequently on my ubuntu 12.04, i cannot provide logs as it is a complete freeze (no mouse, no keys work) even the suggested REIUB keys is there anything i can do to diagnose this
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> i did cheak if my memory was bad, and it came back fine
[03:48] <Bashing-om> Psil0Cybin: Does an older kernel work ?
[03:48] <james41382_> Bashing-om: just a moment
[03:49] <Psil0Cybin> Bashing-om, it seems to happen on all kernels, I cannot really pin point a specific time when it happens, it will randomly just freeze even if I am browsing or doing hard core intensive work
[03:51] <Bashing-om> Psil0Cybin: Can't really touch that one ! no logs, no errors generated, no telling. How bout this for an idea .. boot up with a liveDVD of say Lubuntu, see if it still freezes ??
[03:51] <kkkkkkkkkk> Psil0Cybin, what your vga card???
[03:52] <Psil0Cybin> kkkkkkkkkk, what is the command
[03:52] <james41382_> Bashing-om: did you see the paste bin from earlier?
[03:52] <kkkkkkkkkk> Psil0Cybin, is your vga nvidia?
[03:53] <Bashing-om> james41382_: No, I just got back on channel .. how far back ?
[03:54] <kkkkkkkkkk> Psil0Cybin, if your vga is nvidia you have to purge a package: sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-vmware
[03:54] <james41382_> Bashing-om: http://paste.debian.net/107517/
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> kkkkkkkkkk, really that package would cause the problems I know i am using a Lenovo G70
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> if that makes any difference
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> whats the command to see what kind of graphic card i have
[03:55] <Bashing-om> Psil0Cybin: kkkkkkkkkk does have a good thought -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga , sudo lshw -C display <- .
[03:55] <kkkkkkkkkk> lspci
[03:55] <Bashing-om> james41382_: Looking at /107517/.
[03:55] <kkkkkkkkkk> my vga is nvidia and my system freezes always when i play cs source
[03:55] <kkkkkkkkkk> after i purged this package stopped freezing
[03:56] <kkkkkkkkkk> maybe this solve your problem too
[03:56] <james41382_> Bashing-om: i don't follow..
[03:56] <kkkkkkkkkk> i have to go
[03:56] <kkkkkkkkkk> by bye
[03:57] <EMPHASIS> Anyone help with a one-touch "photocopy" app? (scan from one Multi-Function printer but send to a different printer that has ink)
[03:59] <holstein> EMPHASIS: there wont be such a thing, that im aware of.. you could set something up like that, if you like.. there are ways to script, or, do some kind of mouse click automation type thing..
[04:00] <Bashing-om> james41382_: My last was to advise I saw your last and I was looking at the output. .. speaking of which I have .. all I see on the hard drive is NTFS partitions // Do not think boot-repair will show 'unallocated space' .. fire up the liveDVD and see what GParted ( ubuntu's partition editor) shows.
[04:26] <james41382_> okay so after creating the partitions manually (1 efi, 1 swap, 1 for /) the installation completed successfully, but grub isn't recognizing windows.
[04:27] <james41382_> i ran update-grub even though it ran it during the install, but it doesn't seem to see windows, though i mounted /dev/sda1 to /mnt/winboot and all the files are there still.
[04:27] <Bashing-om> james41382_: see Beldar's comments above ! .. no workie !
[04:27] <james41382_> eh?
[04:28] <Beldar> james41382_, Did you make a extended partition for those 3 partitions?
[04:29] <james41382_> Beldar: i made a primary efi parition, logical swap and logical ext4 (on /)
[04:29] <james41382_> i can go back and reinstall.. i need it to dual boot.
[04:30] <james41382_> just not sure.. haven't installed linux on a box with uefi before... =[
[04:30] <Beldar> james41382_, Run that script again please, if you have 5 primaries you are in trouble.
[04:30] <Beldar> !bootinfo | james41382_
[04:31] <Bashing-om> james41382_: You do not have UEFI with the type of partitioning on that 80 gig hard disk .. it is of type msdos and requires MBR for grub.
[04:31] <Beldar> james41382_, even better: Boot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).
[04:33] <james41382_> Beldar: so you are saying essentially i should go back delete the partitions i created. then i'll make just two... ext4 on / and a swap?
[04:33] <Beldar> james41382_, You may have made the HD dynamic, run the script please.
[04:34] <nos09> How the ssh knows which id_rsa key to use for perticular hosts ?!?
[04:36] <Beldar> ubuntu wont run in a dynamic so the script will separate the wheat from the chaff, just conflicting info.
[04:36] <R3boot_> hello
[04:36] <R3boot_> ubuntu laptop no external mic or speakers; how do i port my speaker sound to my mic fora music bot?
[04:37] <james41382_> Beldar: http://paste.debian.net/107518/
[04:38] <Beldar> james41382_, So a extended was installed sda4 do you see that in the script?
[04:39] <james41382_> yes i see it
[04:40] <Beldar> james41382_, Cool, are you in the ubuntu install? or in the live environment?
[04:40] <james41382_> Beldar?
[04:40] <james41382_> Beldar: no it's installed.. i'm booting from the hdd
[04:40] <Beldar> james41382_, have some patience
[04:41] <james41382_> yes of course.. just been at it a while you know?
[04:41] <Beldar> james41382_, That is not my issue and I spent in inordinate time helping you before, and am willing to help you now.
[04:42] <james41382_> okay
[04:42] <james41382_> is the issue that the linux boot is efi and the windows boot is not?
[04:43] <Rohan_> I have 2 questions, 1.) how can I see where an init script failed? 2.) How can I make an init script run after screen has loaded?
[04:44] <Beldar> james41382_, Boot the live open gparted and delete in this order sda6 run it then sda5 run it than sda4 run it than sda3. Thhen just in the unallocated one ext4 for ubuntu and a swap. NO efi.
[04:44] <Beldar> james41382_, Windows is not a efi install
[04:44] <james41382_> i see.. i understand...
[04:44] <james41382_> thanks.
[04:44] <sbhepburn> I'm an amateur ubuntu server admin and I'm wondering: my user isn't seeing his username at the bash, it's actually MY username@servername:~$. anyone have any idea?
[04:45] <Beldar> james41382_, No problem, that should have you up and running, ask more questions if needed. ;)
[04:47] <sbhepburn> I'm an amateur ubuntu server admin and I'm wondering: my user isn't seeing his username at the bash, it's actually MY username@servername:~$. anyone have any idea?
[04:48] <catalase> can anyone help me troubleshoot Network error: Software caused connection abort
[04:50] <EMPHASIS> holstein: you there?
[04:56] <kam270> hi i am running ubuntu server 12.04 and im having trouble getting eth1 up during boot. It takes around 30 seconds to come up after im at the login screen
[04:56] <kam270> any ideas why this happens ?
[05:01] <sbhepburn> Hello everyone :) anyone know why users on my Ubuntu server aren't seeing their username when they login via telnet? Shouldn't it be "username@server:~$"? They're getting MY username instead...
[05:02] <bdbear> sbhepburn: are you perhaps talking about when they login using ssh?
[05:03] <sbhepburn> bdbear it seems to happen when using telnet
[05:04] <sbhepburn> bdbear: any ideas?
[05:05] <bdbear> sbhepburn: you want to grant your users access to the console, remotely? if so then ssh is the correct connection method.
[05:05] <sbhepburn> bdbear: Ah, I see. Thanks!
[05:05] <karlozmx> :/
[05:05] <bdbear> sbhepburn: your welcome.
[05:06] <bdbear> karlozmx: have you taken a look into your logs at /var/log ?
[05:07] <karlozmx> tanks Josein
[05:08] <p4r4s> quit:
[05:09] <p4r4s> quit
[05:09] <bdbear> karlozmx: pinged the wrong person:P
[05:10] <bdbear> kam270: have you taken a look into your logs at /var/log  tail -f /var/log/syslog will output the system logs.
[05:12] <p4r4s> Savinus, how to quit ubuntu chanel
[05:12] <Release_> hi, how to install -----> sudo apt-get install tcl8.5 tcl8.5-dev
[05:12] <Savinus> p4r4s, huh?
[05:13] <Release_> it gives me error
[05:13] <Release_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:13] <Release_> ln: failed to create symbolic link '/var/lib/xmail/mailusers.tab': File exists
[05:13] <Release_> and bunch of such errors
[05:14] <Release_> on 14.04 LTS
[05:17] <catalase> can someone please help me troubleshoot an error i am experiencing with ssh
[05:18] <catalase> i continually get network error: software caused connection abort
[05:18] <catalase> in both filezilla and putty (client side)
[05:25] <bdbear> catalase: have you isolated the error to be on the server side or the client side?
[05:26] <bdbear> catalase: and the first place to start looking are in your log files: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles
[05:27] <rohan_> can someone riddle me this. I tried to exacute a script during startup, when I did, it was called, but the program (minecraft server) kept giving an error message 10x / sceond. I put the same command to call the same script in a cron job (@reboot), worked flawlessly
[05:28] <bdbear> rohan_: what was the error?
[05:31] <rohan_> bdbear: sorry it took so long
[05:32] <rohan_> [08:58:10] [Server thread/INFO]: Done (3.898s)! For help, type "help" or "?"
[05:32] <rohan_> [08:58:10] [Server thread/INFO]: Unknown command. Type "help" for help.
[05:32] <rohan_> it would repeat the last line over and over 10x / second
[05:33] <monang> network problem in moved hd
[05:34] <bdbear> rohan_: what does the script look like, and what method are you using to load it up during startup? (you can use pastebin)
[05:34] <monang> can i just ask the question here?
[05:34] <bdbear> yea
[05:35] <catalase> bdbear do i just check /var/log/auth.log
[05:36] <rohan_> bdbear: here is the init file: http://pastebin.com/CtAh0Wp8
[05:36] <monang> Jun 29 21:38:37 fxt-AcAsp-L3600 NetworkManager[2247]: <info> (eth0): carrier now ON (device state 10) Jun 29 21:38:37 fxt-AcAsp-L3600 kernel: [41240.217977] atl1c 0000:02:00.0: irq 44 for MSI/MSI-X Jun 29 21:38:37 fxt-AcAsp-L3600 kernel: [41240.218075] atl1c 0000:02:00.0: atl1c: eth0 NIC Link is Up<100 Mbps Full
[05:36] <bdbear> Catalase: what do you "think" that is cousing this problem?
[05:37] <catalase> i have no idea mate
[05:37] <rohan_> bdbear: and the .sh file: http://pastebin.com/VBueqSRk
[05:39] <catalase> idk why it is trying to connect from port 1024
[05:39] <catalase> lol
[05:39] <catalase> i didnt specifiy that, i specified 22
[05:40] <bdbear> catalase: atleast you found out what couses the error;)  thats a good start your using putty?
[05:40] <catalase> yes
[05:40] <catalase> this is odd though, the log shows that i am connecting from ports 1024-1026
[05:41] <catalase> in putty it is specified as 22 and in filezilla it is also specified as 22
[05:42] <catalase> the problem might be due to the router i suppose, i am connecting to the external IP address--not internal
[05:42] <bdbear> catalase: try to do ssh localhost on the computer your trying to connect to. to se if your able to connect
[05:43] <bdbear> Rohan_: you said that the bash script had no errors, unless when you try to add it to an upstart job?
[05:45] <catalase> bdbear, ssh localhost works fine
[05:45] <bdbear> catalase: then its your (client) or in betwene the client and the target. Are you able to try to ssh it from another client, than the one you have the errors on?
[05:50] <catalase> bdbear, i think i need to forward ports 1024-1030 or something to my server on the router
[05:50] <rohan_> bdbear: correct After the computer boots, without the startup script, then run the craftbukkit.sh, it works ine
[05:50] <rohan_> fine
[05:52] <bdbear> catalase: its a workaround, but not a solution;) you will have issues then if you need to use the port range for something else.
[05:53] <monang> quit
[05:54] <bdbear> catalase: you can check if you have adde forwarded ports into pitty. go into putty configuration, then to connections -> ssh and tunnels. Remove any forwarded ports and try to connect
[05:57] <catalase> bdbear, no forwarded ports in putty
[06:00] <bdbear> rohan_: read here http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Stanzas
[06:01] <lexi> Lexi
[06:01] <HankMccoy> hey is anyone interested in writing code for a million dollar app idea?
[06:02] <HankMccoy> I has an IDEA
[06:02] <bdbear> HankMccoy: try freelancer.com
[06:02] <HankMccoy> damn
[06:02] <Guest40481> I've gotten myself into some wierd grub trouble. Is anyone here an "expert"?
[06:03] <Abhijit> Guest40481, yes. i was an expert in destryoing my machine some years ago.  i can tell you what not to do!
[06:03] <bdbear> Guest40481: explain your issue (I'm sure someone are able to help you) Short an precise;)
[06:03] <HankMccoy> it's not that complex just write a adblock app for smart TV's since they have such shitty browsers built in...
[06:03] <Abhijit> oh
[06:03] <bdbear> hankMccoy: still, this is not the place to look for labour force. use freelancer.com (its a good site for exactly what your looking for)
[06:04] <HankMccoy> keep the idea just remember me
[06:04] <bdbear> And HankMccoy: someone has allready done that https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/adblock/gighmmpiobklfepjocnamgkkbiglidom
[06:04] <bdbear> sorry, did not se smartTV:P
[06:05] <HankMccoy> I feel robbed because my new smart tv is more like a HDMI extention of my laptop instead of operating on it's own
[06:05] <Guest40481> So I got Linux on this ancient machine, THEN I got XP. I have not been able to get GRUB to let me dual boot. To make it worse, the operating systems are on different hard drives.
[06:05] <HankMccoy> really did not know that... thanks
[06:05] <catalase> !logs
[06:06] <HankMccoy> wait my Samsung does not offer chrome nor can I download it (i tried) for my TV
[06:06] <catalase> !apache
[06:08] <bdbear> Guest40481: when you startup the computer, does grub load?
[06:08] <Guest40481> No, at least not that I can see.
[06:09] <bdbear> Guest40481: so when you start the computer. windows or ubuntu loads?
[06:09] <Guest40481> My computer does think it has two screens when booting, but yeah.
[06:09] <Guest40481> And I change between windows and Ubuntu by swapping the harddrives.
[06:10] <mariana29> www.assamateurmexicanblogspot.mx
[06:10] <Guest40481> I think I made it worse by installing Windows with the Linux harddrive out. . .
[06:11] <bdbear> Guest40491: What I would do in that senario, are to backup all importain data. and start the installation over again. and . perhaps follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[06:13] <bdbear> Guest40481: Alternativly this might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[06:13] <rohan_> bdbear: thank you for the site. What I really would like to do (and did in the cron job) is run that script in screen.  If I do this in upstart, would it be a script I write, or execute the screen command?
[06:14] <bdbear> Rohan_: you can do that, just add the screen command before the java command
[06:15] <Guest40481> I'm going to try bdbear's idea first
[06:15] <Hxxx> little help with tightvncserver and ubuntu gnome desktop. Problem is xstartup not properly configured, therefore getting empty desktop when connecting.
[06:15] <rohan_> bdbear: that is what I did for the cron job screen -dmS server /home/bukkitserver/craftbukkit/craftbukkit.sh  and all went well. putting that line in upstart, nothing happened at all
[06:17] <rohan_> bdbear: DOH! I don't have the script and end script
[06:18] <bdbear> ;)
[06:18] <rohan_> Thank you for walking me through finding the answer
[06:18] <rohan_> vs just giving it to me
[06:18] <bdbear> your welcome.
[06:18] <rohan_> I am off to give it a go
[06:18] <Guest40481> Quick question: is there a special paste hotkey for the terminal? I keep getting ^V
[06:19] <bdbear> mark the text and then right click to paste
[06:19] <Abhijit> Guest40481, cntr + shift + c and cntr + shift + v
[06:19] <Abhijit> cntrl
[06:20] <bdbear> Guest40481: mark the text to copy the text. and right click to paste. (if you can use your mouse in that terminal) else what abhijit wrote.
[06:22] <Guest40481> It worked. Just didn't want to spam the terminal.
[06:22] <Guest40481> I don't know if I have "RAID" actually on the computer, is it better to say yes or no?
[06:24] <bdbear> Guest40481: try to find out what RAID is, before you answere that question http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID
[06:26] <hostelix> hola
[06:26] <Guest40481> I'm just now trying to come off of windows, so i didn't know to pay this much information during the install.
[06:26] <bdbear> Guest40481: and i would actually recomend you to use raid, if you system supports it. since it will enhance your disks Read/write speed.
[06:26] <hostelix> hello
[06:26] <bdbear> hello
[06:27] <hostelix> not speak spanish?
[06:27] <bdbear> Guest40481: but if you dont want to set it up, or dont know how. or are not sure then answere no.
[06:27] <bdbear> !es
[06:27] <hostelix> thank
[06:27] <bdbear> yw
[06:27] <hostelix> (Y)
[06:30] <Guest40481> Thank you, I think bootrepair is going to save me lots of trouble.
[06:35] <Guido1> hello, i just want to install seamonkey , but what is the comand for it? (http://askubuntu.com/questions/397272/why-isnt-mozilla-seamonkey-available-in-the-repositories-how-can-i-install-it doesn't work --> pakage could not be found)
[06:36] <bdbear> Guest40481: you could try it first. if it does not solve your issue go for a full re-install. (re-install is simple, it just takes time)
[06:37] <bdbear> Gyudi1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeaMonkey
[06:40] <rohan_> bdbear: That worked. Another stumbling block. I set the userid and grpid to bukkitserver, but when it ran the logs etc were owned by root. I tried adding a su, but it stalled as it asked for the password. what is a fix?
[06:43] <Guido1> hello, i just want to install seamonkey , but what is the comand for it? (http://askubuntu.com/questions/397272/why-isnt-mozilla-seamonkey-available-in-the-repositories-how-can-i-install-it doesn't work --> pakage could not be found)
[06:45] <bdbear> Guido1: dont spam, and read the answeres you get. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeaMonkey
[06:45] <Guido1> bdbear: didn't go an answer before, but seams that someone send the answer to someone else
[06:46] <bdbear> Gyudi1: sorry my bad, typo.
[06:47] <Guido1> bdbear: okee, now i get the message "no candidate for instalation"
[06:47] <bdbear> Rohan_: try to use sudo -u user usercommand.
[06:48] <rohan_> bdbear: will do
[06:49] <david___> dit is een test
[06:50] <olegb> david___: did it work ? ;-)
[06:50] <ubuntu-studio> i wanted to try out LVM on this installation but the option is greyed out.  i have six 120GB disks, 2 were autoconfigured by the BIOS to run in 240GB RAID0. how can i configure my disks to run in LVM? i can break up the RAID and move the DVD to the Promise RAID card if this will help. any advise?
[06:50] <bdbear> guido1: Try to do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install seamonkey
[06:51] <ubuntu-studio> seamonkey is in the repo?  i did it the hard way and compiled it myself
[06:52] <xangua> ubuntu-studio: bdbear seamonkey is not in ubuntu repository
[06:53] <dibblego> why are my notifications appearing as dialog windows instead of the usual in the top right corner?
[06:54] <bdbear> Guido1: xangua ubuntu-studio I did not know that. perhaps ubuntu-studio can assits Guido1 on compiling it.
[06:55] <ubuntu-studio> !lvm
[06:55] <xangua> bdbear: Guido1 you can download binaries from seamonkey-project.org
[06:55] <bdbear> Guido1: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/install-and-uninstall#install_linux
[06:56] <Guido1> xangua, bdbear: update worked, instalation doesnt. maybe i have to use the hard way
[06:57] <Guido1> first question: how to download the 46 build? second: where should it be placed? (somthing with logical i gies)
[06:57] <triplc>  hello!
[06:57] <bdbear> Guido: just follow the installation guide @ http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/install-and-uninstall#install_linux (personally i prefer to download tar files to /tmp/
[06:57] <triplc> any one have experience on hybrid (+ssd) drive?
[06:58] <triplc> What happen to install to a Hybrid HDD? Will I see 2 drives (sda + sdb) where one is normal HDD and one is SDD? I am thinking about buying a new laptop, and see that now most of them have hybrid HDD which i never used before
[06:58] <triplc>  http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/S46CA/ <-- example one that comes with hybrid hdd
[07:02] <Arahael> Hey, where can I find instructions writing a working /etc/init.d script?
[07:02] <Arahael> I've written one that works, but it isn't as integrated as it could be. It doesn't show 'starting', 'stopping', etc, because I essentially rewrote it.
[07:02] <bdbear> araheal: http://stackexchange.com/sites is a good place to look for assistance for trubbleshooting.
[07:03] <Arahael> bdbear: But it's not troubleshooting.
[07:04] <Arahael> bdbear: I'm after _documentation_.
[07:07] <bdbear> Araheal: maby http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html ? or http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[07:08] <Arahael> bdbear: That's for upstart native.
[07:08] <Arahael> bdbear: I want to write sysvinit.
[07:10] <P4R4S> dhanush, hello
[07:11] <diverdude> hello, i am running ubuntu 14.04 LTS with linux kernel 3.13.0-24-generic which works almost fine. There is however a problem with a specific piece of hardware on the lenovo x1-carbon. According to this post: http://mako.cc/copyrighteous/installing-gnulinux-on-an-2014-lenovo-thinkpad-x1-carbon#fixing-the-adaptive-keyboard it should be fixed in the debian 3.14.2-1 or later kernel. So my question is, can i somehow update my ubuntu
[07:11] <Guido1> how can i move a folder into user/lib? (seams to be the folder where seamonkey, firefox and other programs belong)
[07:11] <diverdude>  kernel to 3.14.2-1 also such that i can get that hardware fix?
[07:11] <Hxxx> anyone knows where ubuntu store the session list?
[07:12] <Ben64> diverdude: you can use the mainline kernel ppa, but it's unsupported
[07:12] <Arahael> bdbear: Also, that site doesn't mention systemd.  Isn't ubuntu moving to that?
[07:13] <diverdude> Ben64, okay, so what does that mean exactly? That i can get no help?
[07:13] <Ben64> diverdude: if you have a problem with it, you're kind of on your own
[07:14] <Arahael> diverdude: In practice, if you know how to recover from a broken kernel fixing grub, then you should be fine.
[07:14] <diverdude> hmm :(
[07:14] <diverdude> Ben64, so when will this be supported?
[07:15] <Ben64> diverdude: the worst that can really happen is that you won't be able to boot, but you can just choose your previous kernel from grub then remove the new kernel
[07:15] <Arahael> diverdude: You should know how to cope with a broken kernel anyway, so most competent administrators should be fine with using their own kernel.
[07:15] <Arahael> diverdude: Perhaps you should investigate and try on a testing VM or something? (And learn how to cope with a broken kernel)
[07:17] <diverdude> Arahael, ah ok...right. Im not an admin though :/
[07:17] <Hxxx> ./join #ubuntu-es
[07:17] <Hxxx> ubuntu espa channel?
[07:17] <Arahael> diverdude: If you're not an admin, and you need this kernel, then I suggest you ensure that your backup is good, and try it out.
[07:17] <Arahael> diverdude: You could always reinstall.
[07:18] <Arahael> diverdude: I don't know if debian kernel packages are compatible with ubuntu's, though.
[07:18] <bcvery> Hxxx: /join #ubuntu-es
[07:18] <Ben64> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[07:18] <Ben64> thats why i suggested the mainline kernel ppa
[07:18] <Hxxx> bcvery: banned for some uknown misterious reason. lol amazing
[07:19] <Ben64> Hxxx: you may need to be registered on freenode
[07:19] <Hxxx> i am
[07:19] <Hxxx> Ben64: i am
[07:19] <Hxxx> is there a vnc channel?
[07:20] <Hxxx> or gnome?
[07:20] <Ben64> Jul 01 2014 00:19:32 *	#Ubuntu-es Banlist: Fri May 16 08:13:50<EMAIL_ADDRESS>sendak.freenode.net
[07:20] <Arahael> Hxxx: I think gnome's more of an efnet network.
[07:20] <Ben64> maybe use a different client?
[07:21] <Hxxx> Maybe you guys have configured tightvnc xstartup for gnomedesktop, using for example gnome-shell? I have tried already many configs all i get is a empty grey space.
[07:22] <Ben64> Hxxx: sounds like you created a 2nd screen with nothing on it, run something on it and it will appear
[07:22] <Arahael> Hxxx: If you look carefully, it's not grey, but black and white?
[07:24] <Hxxx> Ben64: but is not supposed that if i'm calling gnome-session, I would get a session (menu, window manager , etc)
[07:24] <Hxxx> ?
[07:24] <Hxxx> Arahael: is grey  , xsetroot grey or something like that
[07:25] <Ben64> Hxxx: apparently you haven't done so correctly, i never bother with it so idk
[07:26] <Arahael> Hxxx: Hmm, well if it was just black and white, then I might have suggested that it's running fwm.
[07:26] <Arahael> (Or some other WM that's part of x11)
[07:28] <diverdude> Arahael, ok...but if i want to update to that kernel version....how would i do that?
[07:28] <Ben64> diverdude: gave you the link already... here it is again http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[07:28] <diverdude> Ben64, oh i am sorry i did not see that
[07:29] <Ben64> pick one for trusty
[07:29] <diverdude> Ben64, would you think this would be to new? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.15-rc2-trusty/
[07:30] <Ben64> nah
[07:30] <Arahael> diverdude: rc kernels are "release candidate".
[07:30] <Arahael> diverdude: Ie, it's a candidate for 3.15.  Pick an actual 3.15 kernel. (Probably the latest one)
[07:30] <diverdude> Arahael, yeah ok...i dont think there is one :)
[07:30] <diverdude> not in that link at least
[07:32] <Arahael> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.14.1-trusty/ seems to be the latest, non-candidate kernel.
[07:33] <Arahael> I'm off.
[07:58] <hoodedice> So my Realtek 8188ee refuses to connect to the internet on Xubuntu 14.04 LTS. I feel this might be a driver issue. Will the drivers listed on this page solve it for me? http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers
[07:58] <hoodedice> In other words, can I trust that site?
[08:13] <peyam> Hi guys and girl
[08:14] <peyam> I need some application that can save my codes in php and java. Like when I look for a code i wont need googling
[08:14] <simion314> hi all, I have an external HDD for file backups, I need this to work with linux/mac/windows and I am not sure what file system to use? FAT has file size limit, and ntfs is not supported on Mac(no write support) , what you suggest to use?
[08:14] <peyam> Something to orgonize my notes
[08:16] <peyam> simion314, ext2?
[08:17] <simion314> peyam: nope,
[08:17] <peyam> sorry I ment exFAT
[08:17] <peyam> but you will need exfat drivers on ur linux mechine
[08:22] <ki7mt> peyam, Gedit has Code Snipits  where you can store code segments and organize it, several other editors do too. There's all kind of notes apps, just look in Software Center.
[08:23] <peyam> ki7mt, I need something that has a menu like (php > my notes) and below it (Java>mynotes > formuler)
[08:23] <ki7mt> peyam, Yeah, I think gedit, with the snipits plugin will do that
[08:24] <peyam> ki7mt, I found something. its named QSnipps but its not free
[08:24] <NuSuey> hey everyone! How is the state of bluetooth 2.1 and 4.0 on linux? Would bluetooth headphones work out of the box on ubuntu?
[08:24] <Guest11885> Hello I am using ubutnu 14 LTS, and I would like to enable keep alive for multiple requests on my apache, now I found article that said I should add "KeepAlive On" but the path they give is wrong: etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf any idea where I should add this line?
[08:27] <Guest11885> Hello I am using ubutnu 14 LTS, and I would like to enable keep alive for multiple requests on my apache, now I found article that said I should add "KeepAlive On" but the path they give is wrong: etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf any idea where I should add this line?
[08:27] <bcvery> !patience | Guest11885
[08:28] <bcvery> NuSuey, impossible to say
[08:28] <Guido1>  why re some prorams instaled in local and some in usr/lib?
[08:28] <bcvery> Guest11885, have you tried in #ubuntu-server?  They may know more about this
[08:28] <peyam> Guido1, becouse some programs are ment to all user and some only to one
[08:29] <Guido1> peyam: so local is some users and lib all. is that right?
[08:29] <peyam> Guido1, yes. I have Eclipse on my local so only i can access it.
[08:29] <NuSuey> bcvery: why is that?
[08:30] <bcvery> NuSuey, Bluetooth is buggy at the best of times.  Even if we knew your set-up and the headphone model/make (which you didn't tell us) YMMV
[08:30] <Guido1> hm, something to think about. i'm using seamonkey. it can be available for everyone, but not the compleet profile (with mails etc.)
[08:31] <NuSuey> bcvery: well I'm thinking of buying Bluetooth Asus USB-BT400 (bluetooth dongle) and Prestigio PBHS1 (bluetooth headphones)
[08:31] <NuSuey> bcvery: no clue how well is the support of bluetooth speaker/headphones on linux.. that's why I'm asking
[08:32] <ki7mt> Guido1, local is normally used when building from source, for example, if I install python3-numpy, f2py3 will in /usr/bin and if I build it from source, it sill be in /usr/local/bin .. came for the associated libs.
[08:32] <NuSuey> would be annoying as hell to not be able to use it
[08:32] <peyam> Guido1, you will know. sometimes its simpler to have some applications in local and sometimes on /usr/ if something happens to your account you may want to acces it from other accounts
[08:32] <jnhghy> in 12.04 system settings I don't see software & updates, why is that? I'd like to change my apt-get source server (the one I have now throws 403)
[08:32] <peyam> Guido1, I think ki7mt may know more about this kind of things
[08:33] <ki7mt> Guido1, the original will still bu in /usr/bin  .. and source in usr/local/bin .. sri fer typo.
[08:33] <melodie> hi
[08:33] <ki7mt> hi
[08:34] <stijn1> Upgraded system from 12.04 to 14.04. Can't open additional drivers window. Tried reinstalling both software-properties-gtk and software-center. When launching from terminal this is the error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7730193/
[08:34] <melodie> I have an installed system where I had to remove software center and reinstall it later. This triggered update-manager/update-notifier to be removed, then update-notifier was not reinstalled when re-installing software center
[08:35] <melodie> the reason why I had to remove it was change of language: from French to full English. and Software Center has a bug, so all has to be uninstalled and reinstalled to get all the texts in English.
[08:36] <melodie> now update-notifier does not start at boot: how can I configure the system so that update-notifier is started? (there are 4 packages to be updated, and this does not show)
[08:36] <melodie> thanks for help?
[08:39] <milissa> http://adf.ly/pyduc
[08:41] <melodie> well in fact update-notifier does not appear in the status all services command
[08:41] <melodie> http://askubuntu.com/questions/58404/how-to-start-and-stop-a-service
[08:48] <melodie> this is in 12.04
[08:48] <ki7mt> melodie, ave a look in ./etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop .. I think NoDisplay should be true
[08:48] <ki7mt> have a look
[08:48] <melodie> ki7mt I look, thanks
[08:49] <melodie> ki7mt yes, NoDisplay=true : is that good or bad?
[08:50] <melodie> should it be false?
[08:50] <antonio__> ciao ho un errore sulla barra delle applicazioni, come posso risolvere il problema?
[08:51] <ki7mt> melodie, that's what is should be. Second, try Dash >. Software & Updates, then on the Update Tab make sure those are all set properly.
[08:51] <melodie> I am using an Openbox remix in a eeepc 1101, so there is no dash
[08:52] <melodie> usually it works, and has worked so far, until I removed and reinstalled the Software Center, because of the language bug.
[08:53] <ki7mt> melodie, hmm I see, sorry to say, I dont know much about that one. I was assuming you were using Ubuntu desktop.
[08:53] <melodie> so I need to learn to configure services manually, as the jobs-system gui has long been gone
[08:54] <ki7mt> melodie, Wee gconf-editor also has, under ubuntu / com / update notifier, you could try editing there also.
[08:54] <melodie> also this version has lightdm that allows booting right on to the desktop, maybe it goes too fast?
[08:54] <melodie> ok I look for gconf-editor
[08:55] <peyam> Hi again. Ive download JCODECOLLECTOR from guthub but how do I install it?
[08:55] <ki7mt> melodie, You could try gconf-editor, but that's about all I could recommend at this point.
[08:55] <peyam> https://github.com/alessandrococco/jcodecollector
[08:55] <battle> If I'm creating a bootable usb to run ubuntu from, does the iso file need to be the only file on the usb?
[08:56] <antonio__> ho un bag sulla barra applicazioni mi scompare come rimedio il problema?
[08:56] <peyam> battle http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[08:56] <bcvery> battle, you don't put the .iso on the USB, you need to create a bootable USB with unetbootin
[08:56] <bcvery> !unetbootin | battle
[08:57] <bcvery> !it | antonio__
[08:58] <ki7mt> battle, in most cases, if it's going to be a bootable media, then yes, that's all that should be on the device.
[08:58] <battle> That's discouraging.  I only have 1 usb, and I don't want to remove the file from it.
[08:59] <ki7mt> battle, Stick it on cloud storage somewhere. More Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[09:00] <peyam> battle, move your files to the desktop. format the usb and them move them back to the usb
[09:02] <eeee> battle: it doesnt have to be the only file on the iso
[09:02] <battle> Does ubuntu 14.04 offer a decent ui for selecting between which os to run upon boot?
[09:02] <melodie> ki7mt it's in dconf-editor
[09:02] <melodie> not gconf
[09:02] <_gpg_> hi
[09:02] <svetlana> battle, yes, grub, as always
[09:03] <battle> svetlana: is that installed by default or some package I have to run?
[09:03] <svetlana> by default
[09:03] <_gpg_> i have some issues with "sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a" which never ends (it tooks all the night)
[09:03] <_gpg_> any one can help me pleae ?
[09:04] <battle> thank you.
[09:04] <eeee> battle: you don't have to erase the usb to install the iso, just so you know
[09:05] <melodie> ki7mt I wouldn't have thought of looking there if you would not have pointed me to gconf-editor. thank you very much for your help
[09:06] <eeee> battle: i'm not sure if unetbootin formats prior to installing though, testing it right now
[09:06] <battle> eeee: (:
[09:07] <battle> is reading about how to embed fonts in a pdf.
[09:07] <eeee> battle: linux live usb creator doesnt format (it gives you the option) but that is on windows
[09:07] <battle> eeee: that may serve me well.  I think I will install ubuntu today.
[09:08] <ki7mt> melodie, Ok, sri about that, Im a bit tired. So did that work for you then?
[09:08] <eeee> battle: yeah linux live usb creator is great, i just tested unetbootin, it doesn't format the usb prior to installing the iso
[09:08] <eeee> ;)
[09:08] <battle> thanks, boss.
[09:08] <eeee> sure
[09:09] <melodie> ki7mt yes, first time I started update-manager and went to the configuration of updates, the setup for the third option was grayed. I just rebooted, however I still don't see update-notifier in the panel. :?
[09:10] <ki7mt> melodie, On my system, I only see that Icon where there's packaged pending, either to download or install.
[09:10] <ki7mt> when there is packages pending .. ..
[09:10] <vak> hi all
[09:11] <ki7mt> melodie, Have you performed an update / upgrade recently ? If so, there may not be any updates.
[09:12] <vak> udev didn't create any /dev/sd* entries -- why could it be so? (i tried LiveCD and from there everything is ok)
[09:13] <melodie> ki7mt there are 4 packages to be updated and I keep it that way. I want the notifier to show what it does
[09:13] <netstnail> hi all, Exim4 SMTP server allows unauthenticated users to send emails, Howto fix this?
[09:14] <ki7mt> melodie, I suspect you've put a hold on those packages then yes?
[09:14] <melodie> certainly not
[09:15] <ki7mt> melodie, Im confsued then, I thought you wanted those packages held back.
[09:15] <melodie> it's a brand new system, on a eeepc 1101HA, and when I put a hold on something it is eventuelly on a kernel (with good reasons and very rarely)
[09:15] <melodie> ki7mt I keep them not updated because I want to show the owner of the machine the update-notifier in action when she will come to get her machine back
[09:17] <ki7mt> melodie, Ok, I see, and I tak it your not seeing the Icon update notifier then?  Im not sure why that is not displaying if your sure there are pkgs in need if updating.
[09:18] <dimart> join #banshee
[09:18] <dimart> ups :)
[09:18] <_gpg_> Using ubuntu 12.10 when i do dpkg --configure -a it take infinit time and never returns, help please :(
[09:18] <Ben64> 12.10 is way not supported anymore
[09:18] <melodie> ki7mt I was also asking at #ubuntu-fr, a guy answered me and he also just realized that in his install there were 130 packages to be updated, but this would not show.
[09:18] <_gpg_> Ben64: yes i know
[09:19] <ki7mt> _gpg_, First off, you should get off of 12.10, as it's no longer supported, Currently supported: 10.04 LTS (server) 12.04 LTS,  13.10, and 14.04 LTS
[09:19] <Ben64> _gpg_: then.. why are you asking for support?
[09:19] <melodie> ki7mt we might be hitting a bug there. I suspect the update-manager tools have been updated recently, but I don't quite remember when
[09:19] <melodie> how could update-notifier be debugged?
[09:19] <_gpg_> Ben64: Because i expect some ppl to have more experience than me
[09:19] <eeee> _gpg_: 12.10 is very slow compared to 14.04
[09:20] <pds> is this ther right channel to ask questions about kickstarter configs?
[09:20] <_gpg_> eeee: sure, i'm just afraid to break some of the tools installed on this machine
[09:20] <ki7mt> melodie, Yeah, a bug is possible. I use the standard Ubuntu Desktop, and it's woking here, but maybe the remix has an issue. You could post the buig ad see if others are having it too.
[09:20] <Ben64> _gpg_: well 12.10 is not supported in this channel
[09:21] <_gpg_> Ben64: yes
[09:21] <_gpg_> Ben64: thanks for the information
[09:21] <melodie> ki7mt I ask the French guy who had 130 packages to be updated what version Ubuntu he uses and will tell you
[09:21] <Ben64> _gpg_: so then upgrade to 14.04
[09:21] <_gpg_> eeee: i have some proprietary installation of eclipse and its cross compiller, dont kow if it support 14.x releases
[09:21] <eeee> _gpg_: what tools?
[09:21] <eeee> ok
[09:22] <melodie> ki7mt he uses GUbuntu, the Gnome version, as 14.04
[09:22] <Flonk> *nix-noob here! Any script file i place inside /usr/bin can be executed from anywhere, right? Is there something similar to Windows' %PATH%?
[09:22] <_gpg_> eeee: Eclipse + ARM cross toolchain from Windriver
[09:22] <_gpg_> eeee: They usually rely on old pakages
[09:22] <Ben64> Flonk: yes, although you should use ~/bin
[09:22] <ki7mt> _gpg_, melodie you mean Gnome Desktop ?  well if it's in two flavors, somethign is amiss there.
[09:22] <Flonk> Ben64: even if I want it to be global?
[09:23] <ki7mt> sri _gpg_ didn't meant o ad you on that.
[09:23] <murlidhar> is it possible to have different themes ? like a different window theme and a different gtk them ?
[09:23] <Ben64> Flonk: depends what you mean by global
[09:23] <Elahenaz> hm
[09:23] <pds> is this ther right channel to ask questions about kickstarter configs?
[09:23] <Flonk> Ben64: I mean, available to all users
[09:23] <Ben64> Flonk: ah, then yeah, home directory wouldn't work
[09:23] <murlidhar> cuz ubuntu-tweak-tool is changing both when i try to change one.
[09:23] <Ben64> Flonk: as for the path question, there is. the variable is $PATH
[09:24] <Flonk> Ben64: Awesome, thanks a bunch! :)
[09:24] <melodie> ki7mt another clues, he has the 14.04 flavor, and I have the 12.04 flavor, but with a kernel 3.13.0-30, which has "trusty" in the name, in Synaptic.
[09:24] <Elahenaz> hi
[09:24] <Ben64> Flonk: /usr/local/bin might be a better place for your own stuff
[09:24] <melodie> could the update-notifier behavior be related to a specific kernel? or impossible to fancy that?
[09:24] <Flonk> Ben64: Oh, I was just about to ask what that folder is about, it's in $PATH aswell
[09:25] <Elahenaz> hm
[09:25] <bcvery> Elahenaz, hi, please ask you Ubuntu support question
[09:25] <Elahenaz> bcvery u?
[09:26] <pds> looking for documentation on how to kickstart ubuntu server 14.04 - kickstart configurator gui or config file itself - working on a 12.04 LTS to do so though
[09:26] <Flonk> Ben64: Do you know the difference between bin, sbin, local/bin and local/sbin?
[09:26] <bcvery> Elahenaz, do you have a support question?  If not, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[09:26] <ki7mt> melodie, I dont think so, but something is clearly stopping the notification and supposedly, the service is now running.
[09:27] <melodie> no the service isn't running
[09:27] <melodie> but it should
[09:27] <Elahenaz> bcvery no eingilish
[09:27] <ki7mt> pds, May need some updates, but it's worth a shot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KickstartCompatibility
[09:28] <bcvery> Elahenaz, where are you from?  language?
[09:28] <ki7mt> pds, See the links about mid-way down, several how too's there.
[09:28] <Elahenaz> bcvery spik farsi
[09:28] <Flonk> Ben64: Nevermind, the "Filesystem Hierarchy Standard" seems to be something I should be taking a look at!
[09:28] <ki7mt> melodie, Oh, I though you fixed that with dconf-editor
[09:29] <pds> @ki7mt hmm will give it a shot, seems that most documentation about doing this is quite old / outdated :(
[09:30] <melodie> ki7mt yes, it's fixed, but from within the update-manager program (what is the name for the section where you can modify the updates behavior? I don't remember the package name exactly)
[09:30] <somsip> !farsi | Elahenaz
[09:31] <ki7mt> melodie, It's Software Sources, then the Update Tab.
[09:31] <Elahenaz> somsip ok tnx
[09:32] <melodie> ki7mt this part belongs to a specific package, wait a sec, I seek for the name
[09:32] <melodie> this is software-properties-gtk
[09:32] <ki7mt> yes
[09:33] <ki7mt> melodie, use sudo also
[09:34] <melodie> ki7mt sudo ? in which context?
[09:35] <ki7mt> melodie, sudo software-properties-gtk otherwise you changes will not take affect.
[09:35] <kyshtynbai> Hi everyone. How do I delete a service from upstart?
[09:35] <kyshtynbai> in order do deny it loading on startup.
[09:36] <ki7mt> kyshtynbai, sudo update-rc.d -f <service-name> disable
[09:36] <kas84> hi guys
[09:36] <Guest87385> hello
[09:36] <ki7mt> Hello
[09:36] <cyborgcygnus> Did that ubuntu extra settings thing Mr Shuttleworth spoke of in a video once ever make it into 14.04?
[09:36] <kyshtynbai> ki7mt: this doesn't wokr unfortuantly
[09:36] <kas84> any good tutorial on how to setup a wifi dongle via command line on ubuntu?
[09:37] <kas84> I guess it would be the same for ubuntu server, right?
[09:37] <ki7mt> kyshtynbai, what service ? did you install it or was it a package installed service
[09:37] <kyshtynbai> and there's a link for, say, vsftpd which leads to /lib/init/upstart-job (in /etc/init.d/).
[09:37] <Guest87385> kas4 plug and play
[09:37] <kyshtynbai> I  installed it
[09:38] <eeee> kyshtynbai: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Iburst
[09:38] <kyshtynbai> so with smbd
[09:38] <murlidhar> is it possible to have different themes ? like a different window theme and a different gtk theme ?
[09:38] <kas84> Guest87385: how can I set up the password then?
[09:38] <kas84> cause there’s no X running
[09:38] <melodie> ki7mt when I start software-properties-gtk from within network-manager, or from synaptic, then at some point I have been prompted for my password, before CHANGING anything.
[09:39] <melodie> ki7mt what I want to tell you is never invoke a gui application with sudo: it is a big NO-NO. it can damage your system.
[09:39] <khfeng> bafu, https://bugs.launchpad.net/somerville/+bug/1324461 can I apply native backlight to this one?
[09:39] <melodie> if you need to invoke a gui app as administrator and have no other way, you may use gksu, or kdesu
[09:40] <ki7mt> melodie, Ok, we will have to agree to disagree on that one, but in any case, Im not sure what else to recommended for you on this one.
[09:40] <tofan> Ve chi gene
[09:41] <eeee> !ru | tofan
[09:42] <melodie> ki7mt you can disagree on that one if you want to, but gksu and kdesu were created for a good reason. ;-)
[09:42] <kas84> guys, I’ve just installed ubuntu server and it’s stuck at running /scripts/init-bottom
[09:43] <kas84> is it normal? does it take long to run those scripts?
[09:43] <ki7mt> kyshtynbai, Tiy could also change the job to "manual" which effectively will never start, or "start on never" whouch should do tha same.
[09:43] <kas84> the system doesn’t even respond to enter on my keyboard
[09:45] <Lynx_> Hi all! I need help with autofs. I have it set up to mount my usb disk in /media/usb/backup_disk. When I start autofs it creates that dir as it's supposed to. But when I try to cd into the directoy, I get "no such file or directory: backup_disk". Mounting by hand works fine.
[09:46] <hateball> kas84: If it's a default install (no services like LAMP) installed it should really not stop there. You may have better luck in #ubuntu-server tho
[09:46] <kas84> yep, default install
[09:46] <ki7mt> melodie, In any case, I don't know what else to suggest for you, other than to file a bug and get the devs engauged to see if they or anyone else can reproduce the issue.
[09:46] <kas84> thanks hateball
[09:48] <melodie> ki7mt before, I would like to check with other flavors who finds the same, and try to find if there is a way to debug, because else than what I told you I don't have any error message to provide to the community
[09:48] <tofan> Kese maron
[09:49] <eeee> how can i list only the hidden files in a directory ?
[09:50] <eeee> or how can i tell grep to search for the pattern ".*" (nothing before the .
[09:51] <ki7mt> melodie, Well, one data point for you then, I don't not see this behavior on  any of my DE's Ubuntu 14.04, Unity, Gnome, Razor-Qt, LXDE, XFCE, and Mate. But I dont have a 12.04 handy to test on except for my servers, which are all doing fine as well, but none have a DE..
[09:52] <melodie> ki7mt teromene, on #ubuntu-fr didn't see update-notifier for some time and now has 130 packages to update: in his GUbuntu : Ubuntu Gnome 14.04
[09:52] <melodie> so I have at least one testimonial
[09:54] <Ben64> eeee: find -O1 -iname .\*
[09:54] <ki7mt> melodie, I think early this morning, probably your yesterday morning, I had and update, however, I run my own Ubuntu mirror, and it only updates once per day, so that's not unusual for my setup.
[09:55] <eeee> Ben64: thanks :)
[09:55] <Ben64> eeee: wait thats recursive, not sure if thats what you wanted
[09:55] <melodie> ki7mt ok
[09:56] <eeee> it's ok
[09:58] <ki7mt> melodie, While this is XFCE, maybe worth a shot: http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=7094
[09:59] <ki7mt> It may already be set from the dconf-editor though.
[09:59] <melodie> ki7mt thanks
[10:03] <ki7mt> melodie, Ok I ahve to run, hope you get this sorted out.
[10:03] <melodie> ki7mt thanks :)
[10:14] <papars> Hi. I have problems with my fans as they are not working at all. My problem is described here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/490292/dell-fans-not-working
[10:14] <papars> Can anybody help me?
[10:14] <cfhowlett> !patience| papars
[10:16] <svetlana> papars, if you purge i8kutils, do they start spinning again?
[10:19] <papars> svetlana: I have removed it (haven't restart my system yet) but my fans are still not spinning now...
[10:19] <svetlana> might want to restart, but then i dunno, check under live cd
[10:20] <svetlana> if it's ok under live cd then come here from the live cd and we will chat about it while your computer is not overheating
[10:22] <codephobic> hi
[10:24] <codephobic> Prior to a recent fresh install of Ubuntu 14.04, I had an upgraded instance of 14.04, within which I had setup a samba share of a www folder and then used a virtualbox guest to access that share and "watch" it (Compass/SASS) ...
[10:24] <Rawcode> hi
[10:25] <svetlana> yes
[10:25] <codephobic> when I tried redoing that approach with this fresh install of Ubuntu, I kept running into an "operation not permitted" error with Sass/util.rb, when watching my samba folder within www.
[10:26] <codephobic> I know that the issue is either with potential changes, in the last 3 months, to sass' codebase or with the change of samba configuration that came with 14.04.
[10:26] <codephobic> prior to this, I had been using samba.conf that I had setup way back in 13.04, I think.
[10:27] <codephobic> anyone know of any pertinent changes that samba might have made?
[10:27] <Rawcode> i'm trying to install ubuntu. in the partion menu, in other hands, the installer shows only one hdd like the union of my 2 hdd. but the bios is not setted tu raid, but in stata ide
[10:27] <messimuc> ups
[10:27] <Rawcode> can you help me ?
[10:27] <codephobic> and [fingers crossed] anyone experienced (and resolved) similar problems?
[10:28] <Rawcode> anyone can help me ?
[10:29] <kas84> guys
[10:29] <kas84> I’m trying to setup a wifi network via command line
[10:30] <kas84> and when running wpa_supplicant I get the following error on my configured ssid
[10:30] <kas84> skip WPA IE - PTK cipher mismatch, reject due to mismatch with WPA/WPA2
[10:30] <kas84> any ideas on what could be wrong?
[10:31] <hateball> kas84: cipher mismatch, TKIP vs AES ?
[10:32] <riply> Hi guys, I have just bought 3 new drives to upgrade an old intel s5000vsa server from RAID1 to RAID5, but ubuntu wasn't picking up the additional HDD. So I turned to the BIOS and it doesn't look like the MB is picking up the 3rd HDD either. I can sway the HDDs in the bays and they pick up all three HDDS, just not at the same time. In fact, it only registeres in 2 bays. So my question is - doesn't anyone have experiance with this damn motherboard haha
[10:32] <kas84> how can i set it up to AES?
[10:33] <santhosh> what si the kernel version of lubuntu 14.04
[10:33] <cfhowlett> !info AES
[10:33] <cfhowlett> riply consider asking #ubuntu-server and/or ##linux
[10:34] <hateball> kas84: this post has some nice info http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318539
[10:34] <riply> cfhowlett, thanks bud
[10:34] <k1l_> !info linux-image | santhosh
[10:34] <hateball> santhosh: 3.13
[10:35] <k1l_> !info linux-image-generic | santhosh
[10:37] <kas84> thankyou hateball
[10:38] <kaitanya> my vmlinuz-3.13.0-30-generic is 5,6MB
[10:39] <zyan> so I've had this problem for a while, but I never asked anyone about it; I have this older Acer Aspire 9410. it was working great in 2012, when all of a sudden it just went to a black screen. I restarted and it tells me "operating system not found". I loaded a linux live CD, but it wouldn't load it at all. it just sat there. so I booted from linux live USB and it worked. since then I've turned that laptop into a 24/7 dedicated server off of a live
[10:39] <zyan>  USB with presistance
[10:40] <zyan> my guess is that it would be the IDE connector is broken
[10:40] <riply> zyan, why not just install off of the USB?
[10:40] <zyan> Gedit, and the install doesn't detect my hard drive
[10:40] <zyan> I mean gparted
[10:40] <zyan> I'm tired
[10:40] <riply> zyan,  ah, that is a problem :( have you tried another HDD?
[10:41] <zyan> nah, I'd need to purchase another laptop hard drive which I don't feel like doing.
[10:41] <zyan> saving money and such
[10:42] <eeee> zyan: same thing happened to me
[10:42] <zyan> I use lubuntu, because the laptop can't handle anything like unity. but when I boot it up, it gives me text boot instead of splash screen. it says "ata1: link is slow to respond. soft resetting link"
[10:42] <eeee> on another laptop, it was making some weird noises before it failed
[10:42] <zyan> live USB that is
[10:42] <w-flo> Hi! my documents scope stopped showing any documents quite a few months ago (in 13.10). The upgrade the 14.04 didn't help. Google didn't help (deleting zeitgeist history and updatedb'ing). Now I'm wondering what else I could try to fix this? :)
[10:43] <eeee> it is dual-boot, and windows still boots though, which is weird
[10:43] <w-flo> Or maybe it's the documents lense? That thing in the dash..
[10:54] <w-flo> just stumbled upon this bug report where I commented with some info about my file lense issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-lens-files/+bug/856949
[10:56] <SinnerNyx> I am installing ubuntu. I didn't see any package selection options in the installer. Is there a list of packages somewhere I can find that I can safely uninstall if I have no audio system on my device?
[10:57] <SinnerNyx> Installing to a VM
[10:58] <cfhowlett> SinnerNyx you can selectively purge your audio player for minor storage savings
[10:58] <hateball> SinnerNyx: well you *could* remove pulseaudio etc, but I'm sure it'll remove depends you actually want to have. Any reason you'd uninstall it? You can have audio in a VM too :)
[10:59] <SinnerNyx> hateball, I'm trying to keep this VM small. I'm just mainly using it for python script development, and educational purposes. I want to get rid of as much overhead as possible for speed, and performance. I use my host system for audio :).
[11:00] <hateball> SinnerNyx: You could install from the minimal iso and just add whatever you need
[11:00] <hateball> SinnerNyx: Which would be educational in itself I guess :)
[11:00] <histo> SinnerNyx: use the server iso, or the mini iso, to install a command line only system
[11:00] <w-flo> I don't think having pulseaudio idling in the background will harm your performance in any noticable way though. :)
[11:02] <SinnerNyx> hateball, unfortunately I'm not well versed enough with linux systems to really be sure what I do and don't need. I'd like the convenience of an x-windows system, but I don't want office programs, entertainment (movie/audio players) etc.
[11:02] <cyford> burning an image to usb is the same for bin files as it is for iso files right?
[11:04] <histo> SinnerNyx: I would start from mini iso and select what you want, if you want a lean system. You can work your way up.
[11:04] <histo> cyford: bin file from where?
[11:04] <trish> hi
[11:05] <cyford> a bin image created from an usb image on a windows machine
[11:05] <histo> cyford: created with what application?
[11:05] <histo> cyford: if it's a bit stream copy then yes. If not then there may be some application needed
[11:05] <cyford> application name imageusb.exe
[11:06] <IceBot3000> SinnerNyx: What you're attempting is a perfect example of Premature Optimization
[11:06] <histo> cyford: apparently bin files should be a sector for sector copy.  dd the bin to the thumb drive and give her a try.
[11:06] <histo> IceBot3000: premature how?
[11:07] <cyford> cool,   thats what i am doing,  just thought i ask..  crunched on time here
[11:07] <cyford> thanks histo
[11:07] <SinnerNyx> IceBot3000: probably. But its for education. If I can learn how to dismantle a linux operating system, I think I'll be forced to learn it's innards and how everything works together. If this were for a production environment or a development environment for a project I would agree with you entirely.
[11:08] <IceBot3000> histo: It's a waste of time to remove audio packages for utterly minimal performance gain
[11:09] <Trudko> guys is there some alternitve to skype client which would allow me to speak with people using skype?
[11:09] <w-flo> SinnerNyx, sounds like the arch linux use case :) Most arch linux users are happy because they install only what they need and thus have a "very lean system" (although all their system libraries with the exception of boost are installed complete with headers etc. and take up much more space than debian or ubuntu)
[11:09] <histo> SinnerNyx: if you really want to learn linux. I would take a look at Linux From Scratch. But be prepared to be overwhelmed at first.
[11:10] <hateball> SinnerNyx: since you have the luxury of VMs, you can just keep a vanilla install, and a "education" install
[11:10] <IceBot3000> Trudko: No, it's a proprietary protocol
[11:10] <SinnerNyx> hateball: that's the present setup :)
[11:10] <SinnerNyx> histo: I'll look into that, thanks :).
[11:10] <histo> Trudko: get them to use mumble instead of skype
[11:11] <Trudko> histo:  would love to but I dont think they would installed it just because of me.
[11:11] <IceBot3000> Trudko: Avoid Skype anyway, unless your conversation isn't considered private. Any business information should utterly avoid any servers in the US
 ehat is the kernel version of lubuntu 14.04
[11:12] <histo> Trudko: unfortunately then you are stuck with skype and using something from the people behind bug #1
what is the kernel version of lubuntu 14.04
[11:12] <k1l_> santhosh: read the answers
[11:13] <IceBot3000> Bug #1 makes me sad now, given the direction Ubuntu ultimately took with built-in spyware/adware
[11:13] <Trudko> IceBot3000: this should be completely fixed in 14.10 no ?
[11:13] <histo> !linux-image | santhosh
[11:13] <hateball> santhosh: I told you, 3.13
[11:14] <IceBot3000> Trudko: 14.10 is removing the Amazon integration?
[11:14] <santhosh> hai k1l this is optinal kernel version but lubuntu 14.04 is reduced the kernel i had read some google
[11:14] <histo> !info linux-image-generic | santhosh
[11:14] <k1l_> santhosh: please give more infos on your issue.
[11:14] <Trudko> IceBot3000: i heard something like that on https://fixubuntu.com/
[11:15] <k1l_> IceBot3000: please keep this channel for technical support only. #ubuntu-offtopic is the better place for discussions
[11:15] <cfhowlett> Trudko IF fixubuntu made that statement, they lied.
[11:15] <santhosh> present  iam working lubuntu 12.10 kernel version 3.5 it is perfect work my application but kernel version 3.8 is not working my applications
[11:15] <cfhowlett> !12.10 | santosh
[11:16] <IceBot3000> k1l_: Adware is a technical support issue
[11:16] <histo> IceBot3000: disable it in privacy settings
[11:16] <Trudko> cfhowlett: well I wouldnt call it lying right away, maybe they are just wrong.
[11:16] <cfhowlett> IceBot3000 15 second fix.  next issue, please.
[11:16] <santhosh> but updates are limited
[11:16] <k1l_> IceBot3000: you can easyly disable all that in privacy settings.
[11:16] <Trudko> cfhowlett: do you have any update on that?
[11:16] <bazhang> IceBot3000, you're talking about 14.10, which is in #ubuntu+1 , not here. either way it's not topical in #ubuntu
[11:16] <santhosh> it is closed with in 2 months in that case i wanr new
[11:17] <IceBot3000> k1l_: It's shameful that a Linux Distribution ever comes with adware, regardless of whether it can be disabled
[11:17] <bazhang> IceBot3000, lets move on please
[11:17] <cfhowlett> Trudko update?  no.  There has been no statement that  lenses will be removed.  NOW moving on ...
[11:18] <ubuntu-studio> trying to install ubuntu. ubiquity only displays my RAID0 array and does not list sda in the screen for what goes where as what BUT it does show at the bottom for "device for bootloader installation" as sda. i would like sda to be my root partition and my SWAP partition. I would like /home to be on the RAID0 array. all devices show in gparted but ubiquity only shows a 240GB volume (the RAID)
[11:18] <k1l_> IceBot3000: i told you several times now that we dont need the "but its spyware!!!11 FUD discussion in here. you were given technical help to resolve that issue and were given another channel to discuss that topic. thanks
[11:18] <Trudko> Guys any tool if I want to make image from my current installation of ubuntu so I can easily install it on different computer?
[11:19] <ubuntu-studio> seriously people. just stop using ubuntu if it bothers you.
[11:19] <santhosh> use clonezilla <Trudko>
[11:19] <hateball> !clone | Trudko
[11:19] <ubuntu-studio> Trudko, Redo! Backup & Restore. available @  redobackup.org
[11:19] <hateball> Trudko: And also as suggested, clonezilla is quite nice. But it depends on your usecase
[11:20] <histo> Trudko: dd works as well.
[11:20] <ubuntu-studio> Redo is made from ubuntu + clonezilla and is so easy even my grandmother uses it
[11:20] <Trudko> hateball well I deally I want complete clone
[11:20] <gotcha> hey guys, can someone help me out with a package i installed and giving me Permission Denied?
[11:20] <Trudko> with all the files and settings not just packages.
[11:20] <santhosh> it is also works
[11:20] <k1l_> there was remastersys, but it think that is deprecated now
[11:20] <ubuntu-studio> Trudko, Redo! Backup & Restore. available @  redobackup.org
[11:20] <hateball> Trudko: Then Clonezilla works for that
[11:21] <histo> Trudko: what package?
[11:21] <histo> gotcha: what package?
[11:21] <ubuntu-studio> Redo is clonezilla but easy enough for a human to understand without needing a gigantic technical manual no one can read
[11:21] <santhosh> it iseasy and fast you can  store image in the network also
[11:21] <histo> Trudko:use clonezilla or dd and update your fstab accordingly if it's by uuid
[11:21] <Trudko> hateball: cool I guess that it would be problem that different pc can have different hardware ?
[11:21] <histo> ubuntu-studio: clonezilla is rather simple to use.
[11:22] <hyper320> on my laptop i have to keep Wifi disabled by BIOS to run Ubuntu, is there a way to fix?
[11:22] <ubuntu-studio> not as easy as redo. redo makes it look like you need a white lab coat and a doctorate
[11:22] <hateball> Trudko: Yes, usually not an issue but if you have things like proprietary drivers (nvidia) you can have some issues. Nothing a repair-mode wont let you fix tho
[11:22] <histo> Trudko: your kernel should be fine with different hardware as long as you aren't instaling propriatary video drivers on the source machine.
[11:22] <gotcha> histo, the package is 'letodms', after installing the package it should be accessable through http://localhost/letodms but its giving me error 403
[11:22] <w-flo> is unity-files-daemon supposed to be running after booting my system? It's not in my case, maybe that's why my files lense doesn't work
[11:22] <histo> gotcha: try https://....
[11:22] <histo> !info letodms
[11:22] <Trudko> cool
[11:22] <hyper320>  on my laptop i have to keep Wifi disabled by BIOS to run Ubuntu, is there a way to fix?
[11:23] <gotcha> histo, its the same with https as well
[11:23] <histo> Trudko: the thing to correct is fstab entries if they are by uuid they will need to reflect the destinations uuid
[11:23] <ubuntu-studio> so.....   does any one have experience installing ubuntu on a system that has both onboard RAID and regular single hard drive in the same system?
[11:23] <Trudko> histo: now idea what fstab or uuid is so i need to take a look heh
[11:23] <histo> Trudko: actually now that I think about it don't worry
[11:23] <hateball> Trudko, histo: Well when you restore with clonezilla it fixes all that stuff for you
[11:23] <Trudko> great
[11:23] <santhosh> yes i have
[11:23] <histo> ubuntu-studio: I would file a bug it should see both.
[11:23] <santhosh> iam trying incentos
[11:25] <histo> k1l_: what are you doing?
[11:25] <histo> santhosh: That's good, do you have a ubuntu related question?
[11:25] <exarkun> After I reboot Ubuntu 14.04, Unity forgets the correct positioning relationship between my two displays.
[11:26] <exarkun> It always puts the external display on the right when I have told it repeatedly that it goes above.
[11:26] <exarkun> How do I fix this?
[11:26] <gotcha> histo, any thoughts?
[11:26] <gotcha> im thinking its a permission issue but i have no idea how to fix it
[11:27] <histo> gotcha: I'm not familiar with the software, perhaps they have support or docs somewhere?
[11:27] <gotcha> histo, uh i wish they did.. unfortunately they do not
[11:27] <gotcha> its sad cuz i cant find a proper document manager
[11:29] <histo> gotcha: there are forums on their website
[11:29] <histo> gotcha: http://www.letodms.com/
[11:29] <k1l_> santhosh: 12.10 is dead since may.2014. so you need to upgrade in any way.
[11:29] <histo> !eol | santhosh
[11:30] <santhosh> thank you
[11:30] <hateball> gotcha: Have you looked at Alfresco?
[11:31] <gotcha> hateball,i tried a quick virtual appliance of it, its too bloated i think and it has way too many stuff that we dont need
[11:32] <hateball> gotcha: How about ownCloud with shared folders?
[11:32] <histo> gotcha: 2nd's owncloud
[11:33] <histo> gotcha: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_collaborative_software
[11:33] <gotcha> yeah, owncloud i guess might work as a local document manager
[11:34] <IceBot3000> gotcha: We use Mindtouch Core (aka DekiWiki) for this purpose, which is very good. But the company who make it no longer provide an Open Source version, and you have to use the "cloud product". You can still find the old versions though
[11:34] <histo> gotcha: there are many options for groupware and collaborative software
[11:36] <gotcha> i know there are, it felt good with letodms, it looks a bit modern and soley for what we need
[11:36] <gotcha> but ill keep looking
[11:36] <gotcha> i guess ill drop it and continue searching
[11:36] <gotcha> thats for all the info and help though guys
[11:42] <bjensen82> my ubuntu 12.04.4LTS server just crashed. Leaving nothing in the logs. I managed to take a picture before reboot: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/459902/IMG_20140629_162702.jpg. Its running kernel <IP_ADDRESS>. Can anyone please help me debug?
[11:42] <ubuntu-studio> it wont restart?
[11:43] <bjensen82> it will, but I want to figure out the error and not just wait till it crashes the server again
[11:43] <prashant> hello
[11:45] <bjensen82> ubuntu-studio: it restarts after I hit the psysical power button. I also have this from a few months ago. Im not sure they are related: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/459902/image.jpeg its a HP DL120 with a raid controller
[11:46] <histo> bjensen82: where your keyboard lights blinking?
[11:46] <bjensen82> histo: KVM wasnt attached, so i dont know
[11:46] <histo> bjensen82: looks like kernel panic to me.
[11:47] <bjensen82> histo: so how would I handle it if it were?
[11:47] <bjensen82> histo: you think both incidents are kernel panics?
[11:48] <histo> bjensen82: is this a vm?
[11:48] <bjensen82> nope its running barebone on a HP DL120 G7
[11:49] <histo> bjensen82: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13468286/how-to-read-a-linux-kernel-panic
[11:50] <bjensen82> histo: Okay. I will check it out. You think updating the kernel would help?
[11:51] <histo> bjensen82: Kind of depends on the issue. If it's hardware related then no.
[11:51] <w-flo> bjensen82, it could help if someone had the same panic and reported this to the kernel devs, and they managed to fix it… If it's a hardware problem it won't help
[11:52] <prashant> has ubuntu updated from 14.04
[11:52] <prashant> ?
[11:52] <histo> prashant: yes
[11:56] <histo> !releases | prashant
[12:01] <zyan> my laptop that I purchased in 2012 has slowed down tremendously. I just reinstalled a fresh install of Ubuntu, and it takes about 3 minutes to open firefox. and when it opens, it freezes a lot. is my hardware going bad?
[12:02] <histo> zyan: memtest
[12:02] <IceBot3000> zyan: Yes, it sounds fucked
[12:02] <hateball> zyan, histo: sounds like bad harddrive to me
[12:03] <histo> !language | IceBot3000
[12:04] <ben_g> Hi
[12:05] <zyan> I was thinking maybe it was unity that was the hog. I'm big on hopping DE's, so I tried LXDE, and got the same results. I made sure my system met the requirements for an x64 system. after all, Win 7 came preinstalled 64-bit. I have 4GB of RAM.
[12:05] <zyan> so yeah, maybe it is the hard drive thats going bad
[12:05] <hateball> zyan: Check with disk utility that your HDD has no bad sectors etc
[12:06] <histo> zyan: smartmontools and memtest that rig
[12:06] <hateball> or smartctl from smartmontools, if you use cli
[12:06] <ben_g> My bluetooth is acting rather strange and isn't useable
[12:07] <histo> !details | ben_g
[12:07] <ben_g> I can detect my laptop using my tablet, but it's name is still the one that it used to be on windows
[12:07] <ben_g> (both when the bluetooth of my laptop is turned on and when it's turned off)
[12:08] <ben_g> and connecting to it from the tablet gives an error
[12:08] <ben_g> searching for bbluetooth devices from the computer also never yields any results
[12:08] <exarkun> After I reboot Ubuntu 14.04, Unity forgets the correct positioning relationship between my two displays.  It always puts the external display on the right when I have told it repeatedly that it goes above.  How do I fix this?
[12:09] <adac> If I have two windows of the same application open, like in firefox, can someone tell me how to fast switch them?
[12:09] <w-flo> adac, alt+"key above tab"
[12:10] <adac> w-flo, awesome
[12:10] <adac> thank you a lot!
[12:10] <w-flo> adac, you're welcome :)
[12:10] <histo> adac: the alt +tilda key
[12:10] <w-flo> histo, it's actually alt+^ in my case
[12:11] <histo> w-flo: get a sane keyboard
[12:11] <w-flo> histo, difficult to find a sane keyboard in germany :)
[12:11] <ben_g> I've been having the bluetooth problem since when I got rid of windows 8 and installed ubuntu, but bluetooth was never relyable on windows 8 either, but then I thought it was just driver glitches
[12:12] <Energy> hello, i want install a new pussy in my ubuntu, how to make that ? apt-get pussy | bitch whore ?
[12:12] <zyan> should I quit all apps if I'm running a SMART extended self-test?
[12:14] <ben_g> Is there any way to reset the internal bluetooth device of this laptop? Maybe that can fix it?
[12:22] <w-flo> could anyone using unity check their ps aux | grep files-daemon to see if unity-files-daemon is running for you?
[12:22] <gotcha> is it better to install stuff from source or use the package if available?
[12:22] <w-flo> gotcha, always better to use the package. unless you have very good reason to compile from source
[12:26] <gotcha> w-flo, speaking from experience? =p
[12:26] <asdofindia> w-flo, 5852  0.0  0.2<PHONE_NUMBER>2 ?        Sl   17:01   0:00 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/unity-lens-files/unity-files-daemon
[12:26] <w-flo> asdofindia, thanks a lot. So that's my problem :) I wonder why it's not running on this system…
[12:27] <w-flo> gotcha, well.. yes, but I did that a long time ago, I don't think Ubuntu even existed at that time :)
[12:28] <w-flo> gotcha, then I started downloading .rpm packages manually and trying to install them. Obviously, it took me a few hours to manually google for and download the dependencies
[12:28] <gotcha> ah i see
[12:28] <gotcha> great
[12:29] <w-flo> It's a really good idea to stick to apt-get and its magic of package downloads :)
[12:30] <w-flo> of course, sometimes you find a patch (or if you know a programming language, you want to change something yourself), and then you will have to compile from source.
[12:30] <umar343> need mp3 and mp4 built-in  player plugins in every ubuntu live cd download
[12:31] <umar343> need mp3 and mp4 built-in  player plugins in every ubuntu live cd download #Suggestion
[12:31] <umar343> #Suggestion need mp3 and mp4 built-in  player plugins in every ubuntu live cd download #Suggestion
[12:32] <w-flo> umar343, I am not a lawyer, but it might be difficult due to patent issues
[12:32] <umar343> maybe  some lawyer helped f35 destroy itself by not allowing children get mp3 and mp4 built-in  player plugins in every ubuntu live cd download
[12:33] <umar343> if it is a patent and lawyer only then the following is applicable: #Suggestion need mp3 and mp4 built-in  player plugins in every ubuntu live cd download #Suggestion
[12:33] <umar343> bye tc
[12:33] <streulma> is Ubuntu 14.04 too new for an AMD Sempron 3000 with 512mb ram ?
[12:34] <umar343> it needs 2Gb RAM for best performance.
[12:34] <umar343> 2Gb and more.
[12:34] <umar343> tho it can work on 1Mb RAM as well !
[12:35] <streulma> oh :( Then my Dell Core Duo with 1.5GB ram is also not good :(
[12:35] <streulma> umar343, and Macbook white ?
[12:35] <w-flo> well, my memory usage is at 1.3GiB without chromium and 2.1GiB including chromium
[12:35] <cool_boy> Hi
[12:36] <streulma> Is 12.04 performing better then?
[12:36] <cool_boy> whenever I press left ctrl button on my keyboard, it takes screeshot. here is keyboard setting for screen shot http://postimg.org/image/e03xfjqc9/, can`t figure it out why it is taking screenshot with left Ctrl key. could anyone help?
[12:37] <w-flo> streulma, I doubt it. Maybe it's even worse, I remember something about memory usage improvements somewhere between 12.04 and 14.04
[12:45] <lada> cz ?
[12:49] <exarkun> After I reboot Ubuntu 14.04, Unity forgets the correct positioning relationship between my two displays.  It always puts the external display on the right when I have told it repeatedly that it goes above.  How do I fix this?
[12:51] <Tin_man> i've never tried 2 monitors, so i don't have a clue.. sorry
[12:52] <Tin_man> hard enough keeping track of one.. :)
[13:04] <goit790> http://newxxxhd.com/all-new-brazzers-movies-in-hd-for-free/
[13:05] <cfhowlett> Pici please ban that jackhole
[13:06] <Pici> cfhowlett: they're gone already.
[13:06] <cfhowlett> Pici drive by spam ... OK
[13:09] <Tin_man> musta missed something, course that not unusually
[13:09] <Pici> 36
[13:11] <Tin_man> anyone here try Knoppix?, neat system, but i have some issues with it..
[13:11] <cfhowlett> Tin_man obviously, knoppix is not supported here.
[13:11] <Tin_man> i know that.
[13:12] <cfhowlett> Tin_man so if you really want help with it, use knoppix's support system???
[13:12] <Tin_man> i like to try different gui's, mine is ubuntu 14.04
[13:12] <Tin_man> love
[13:12] <Tin_man> it
[13:12] <Tin_man> wouldn't change
[13:12] <Tin_man> i've tried all the puppies, and etc
[13:13] <Tin_man> they all have their place..
[13:13] <cfhowlett> Tin_man general chitchat is in #ubuntu-offtopic.  thank you.
[13:14] <Tin_man> i hope you can get fast enough not to drown..
[13:14] <Tin_man> rain
[13:17] <havardge> why does wicd network manager only work sometimes? it often hangs at "obtaining ip address" or sometimes earlier in the connection process
[13:18] <vak> is it a bad idea to boot from livecd, chroot to my native system (that became unbootable by the way) and apply apt-get update/upgrade?
[13:18] <cfhowlett> vak that wouldn't fix the unbootable issue, so what would the point be?
[13:18] <holstein_> havardge: what have you done to isolate wicd?
[13:19] <holstein_> vak: i would want to have a backup of whatever data regardless of how i was trying to repair..
[13:19] <holstein_> vak: its pretty easy to try booting an older kernel..
[13:19] <sydney> Is there a simple way in 14.04 to find my lost password,without resetting it?
[13:20] <cfhowlett> !password|sydney
[13:20] <vak> cfhowlett: i have hopes that it will fix. because after re-attaching HDDs my native system fails to create /dev/sd* entries for whatever reasons and i am expecting that fresh initrd image will be healthy...
[13:20] <cfhowlett> vak way over my head ... perhaps holstein knows more?
[13:21] <havardge> holstein_: i simply installed the awesome window manager
[13:21] <vak> holstein_: backups done. old kernels doesn't work as well after i messed up SATA-port oder...
[13:21] <holstein_> havardge: ok.. that has nothing to do with the networking..
[13:21] <havardge> holstein_: oh, you mean isolate the problem
[13:21] <joseph-andre> HI
[13:22] <havardge> holstein:: well.. i only know that the default network manager of ubuntu works often times when wicd wont
[13:23] <vak> s/oder/order
[13:23] <holstein_> havardge: how are you determining that?
[13:23] <Y> Hi can anyone here help with missing operating system coming up on boot
[13:24] <Koushik_Saha> !
[13:24] <holstein_> Guest60877: not without more information.. that can be a system prompt..
[13:24] <havardge> holstein_: i try connecting with wicd (in awesome) and it doesn't work, then i log out, log in with default window manager, and connect successfully using nm-applet
[13:24] <Guest60877> what information do you require?
[13:24] <holstein_> Guest60877: anything.. what operating system or systems.. drives. anything that can help a volunteer assist
[13:25] <sydney> cfhowlett: I wanted to view my pasword,not change it. ;)
[13:25] <holstein_> havardge: so, wicd doesnt work?
[13:25] <Guest60877> 12.04 running ubuntu server, had a boot issue, used the boot-repair to fix it and now it's showing missing operating system when I boot the machine
[13:25] <havardge> holstein_ well, it appears that wicd is unable to do something that nm-applet can
[13:26] <havardge> holstein_ something that is required to set up the connection (i don't know what)
[13:26] <Pici> sydney: the password itself isn't stored on the system, only a hash of it is. You can't reverse engineer it from the hash.
[13:27] <sydney> Pici:  OK :D
[13:27] <havardge> holstein_ as you probably can tell i'm not an expert :) do you know what the problem could be?
[13:27] <Guest60877> @holstein_ any help?
[13:29] <holstein_> Guest60877: that message can be from the bios
[13:29] <holstein_> Guest60877: i would suggest boot repair, but, there are many things that can be failing.. the machine for example, the hard drive.. i would isolate and test the hard drive and the hardware and grub as much as possible
[13:30] <Pici> 70
[13:30] <holstein_> havardge: you say, wicd works "sometimes".. when does it work?
[13:32] <havardge> holstein_: i'm not sure how to separate the cases from when it "just works" and when it doesn't work
[13:33] <holstein_> havardge: id say, when you do, you'll understand more clearly the issue
[13:33] <havardge> holstein_ yeah for sure, btw, do you know any helpful terminal commmands that would give me some helpful info for diagnostics?
[13:34] <holstein_> havardge: no.. though, you can use a tray and the applet that you are able to use with whatever you like.. in awesome, for example
[13:35] <Guest60877> @holstein_ I just checked the BIOS and everything seems to be OK, am I suppose to look for something specific?
[13:35] <havardge> holstein_ yup, i'll be doing that while i figure out what the problem is (i like wicd)
[13:36] <havardge> holstein_ thanks for your guiding questions ;)
[13:36] <holstein_> Guest60877: have you tested the hard drive? does the hard drive boot in other machines? can it boot other hard drives?
[13:37] <Guest60877> it's running on vsphere
[13:37] <Guest60877> the drive 100% works
[13:37] <holstein_> Guest60877: if it were 100% working, we wouldnt be chatting.. what do you mean "on vsphere" ?
[13:38] <Guest60877> vsphere client, have you never heard of it before? It's like vmware but for large companies, so my machine is a vm
[13:38] <holstein_> Guest60877: you are using vmware on windows? and this is a guest? an ubuntu 12.04 guest?
[13:38] <Guest60877> no I have a vm running ubuntu server
[13:39] <Guest60877> when I boot the VM I get the no operating system found
[13:39] <holstein_> Guest60877: ubuntu server *is* ubuntu.. so, you are using windows host? and ubuntu 12.04 server guest?
[13:39] <Guest60877> This suddenly happened after a update I did on the server
[13:40] <Guest60877> vsphere is not a window client it's actually based on unix, anyways thats not what i need help with I need to figure out how to fix the boot issue
[13:40] <Guest60877> How can I force the grub to identify the operating system
[13:40] <holstein_> Guest60877: sounds like a question for the virtualization host.., though, i would see that it can boot *anything*.. seems like you are not testing the image, as well, and assuming its ok
[13:40] <holstein_> Guest60877: grub just does that.. you dont need to force it to do that..
[13:40] <Guest60877> the image is fine, I'm able to boot the live CD too
[13:41] <holstein_> Guest60877: the image is not booting, though, friend.. and grub is in the image.. so, i think you are assuming its fine
[13:42] <holstein_> Guest60877: you can use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair from the live CD you state you can boot.. please share any messages you get while trying to reinstall grub
[13:43] <Guest60877> i have already done that
[13:43] <Guest60877> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7731316/
[13:43] <holstein_> Guest60877: that?
[13:43] <holstein_> Guest60877: this is a paste of what? messages? from running boot repair?
[13:43] <Guest60877> Yes I've gone over the boot-repair process
[13:44] <Guest60877> Yes
[13:45] <holstein_> Guest60877: you tried installing grub where? /dev/sda1? did you try /dev/sda? where was it originally?
[13:46] <Guest60877> grub was repaired automatically via boot-repair
[13:46] <Guest60877> I did not do anyhing manually
[13:46] <Beldar> Guest60877, YOU are missing some of grub in the install, the bootscript is missing info.
[13:46] <Guest60877> how can i fix it?
[13:47] <Beldar> Guest60877, I would chroot and purge and reinstall grub
[13:47] <Guest60877> any tuts online by any  chance?
[13:47] <Beldar> Guest60877, What ubuntu release is this?
[13:47] <Guest60877> 14.04
[13:48] <Guest60877> 12.04
[13:48] <Beldar> Guest60877, Do you know how to chroot?
[13:48] <prot> hello everyone, is it true that ubuntu uses the selinux kernel?
[13:49] <Guest60877> i tried to chroot but i got a error popping up about bin/bash
[13:49] <holstein_> Guest60877: what error?
[13:49] <phelix> last night I was promted to run an update. It had a ton of updates in it. I came into work this morning after a reboot and now its like my desktop manager is broken. I can login and I get my desktop with my backgrounds and the desktop icons but the menu on hte left and side bars are all missing and the only way I can getto anything on my machine is clicking o a folder and navigating to a terminal
[13:49] <phelix> and then going that route
[13:49] <Guest60877> I'm going to boot via live cd and do the chroot
[13:49] <phelix> anyone have any idea what in the world could have happened?
[13:49] <Guest60877> I will paste the error here
[13:50] <holstein_> phelix: i would try the guest session.. then, if all is well in the guest session, its like the issue is im my user config.. i would then try to reset unity configs..
[13:50] <phelix> how do I try a gues session?
[13:51] <Beldar> Guest60877, I have to take off but you have excellent help. ;)
[13:51] <eeee> phelix: try to fix broken package dependencies
[13:51] <phelix> I just tried to reinstall lightdm and install gnome-shell and im still having the same problem
[13:51] <phelix> eeee: not sure how to check that
[13:52] <holstein_> phelix: you can choose the guest session from the login screen.. if you have PPA"s added for gnome, that can be problematic
[13:52] <phelix> well I JUST added them and tried to install gnome to see if that would help. but still im the same situation
[13:52] <holstein_> phelix: you can use a GUI package manager such as synaptic, which has "fix broken packages" in the mennu
[13:52] <phelix> k let met try that. once I go to that item I won't be ableto get back to the mirc screen
[13:53] <eeee> phelix: i forgot what happened once with me, i think after an update everything went nuts or i was installing something i think, i think in grub if you choose system settings or recovery or something you get an option to check for broken packages and thats what fixed it for me iirc
[13:54] <phelix> is there a special key I type when booting up to get into grub? not sure what it is
[13:54] <k1l_> left shift or left ctrl.
[13:55] <eeee> phelix: i just checked in a VM, i think i pressed on the recovery kernel
[13:55] <eeee> and then you get a menu and you can select "repair broken packages"
[13:55] <phelix> so when booting up you hit left shift and in that menu you went to recovery kernel
[13:56] <phelix> I have synaptic up.. is it possible to do it with this program?
[13:56] <Guest60877> When i chroot "sudo chroot /mnt" I get the following error "chroot: failed to run command ' /bin/bash': no such file or directory
[13:57] <eeee> Guest60877: try sudo chroot /mnt /bin/sh
[13:58] <sugardaddy> sudo apt-get install porn
[13:58] <Guest60877> same error
[13:58] <sugardaddy> sudo poweroff
[13:58] <sugardaddy> exit
[13:58] <sugardaddy> exit
[13:58] <eeee> phelix: maybe it's the same, wouldn't hurt to try
[13:58] <sprung> Hi. I am in a situation where my laptop is on several different networks on a daily basis, a home LAN, a work LAN, and a work VPN i connect to from home. The problem is I lose my DNS server and search domain settings and keep having to manually do a "sudo service dnsmasq restart" to correct the settings. The restarting of the dnsmasq service always works, but it's incredibly annoying when I'm trying to do my job.
[13:59] <Guest60877> I've tried everything but I think there is something wrong with the mounting and bin/bash
[13:59] <Guest60877> I'm following this guide here http://askubuntu.com/questions/78758/unable-to-boot-missing-operating-system
[14:00] <moussa> anyone tried knoppix ?
[14:00] <moussa> :-)
[14:00] <sprung> the DNS and search domain setting is crucial because all of the servers i administrate have a private suffix to them that won't resolve on public DNS servers, and those settings DO get set via DHCP every time i restart dnsmasq, but I keep having to reset the service every few minutes and it's driving me nuts
[14:01] <Guest60877> anyone can help?
[14:01] <sprung> moussa, knoppix is OLD OLD OLD. you should use something newer that accomplishes the same thing like Puppy
[14:02] <moussa> sprung> use hosts file for you domain problem?
[14:02] <eeee> Guest60877: if you type /bin/sh does your shell change?
[14:02] <Guest60877> yes it goes just to $
[14:02] <cfhowlett> moussa not supported here, however ... discuss in the  #ubuntu-offtopic channel.  thank you.
[14:02] <holstein_> Guest60877: whats the *exact* message? permission?
[14:02] <eeee> ok, you can run exit to get back to bash
[14:03] <Guest60877> exit
[14:03] <adm001mi> hey all
[14:03] <Guest60877> back on it now
[14:03] <sprung> moussa, hosts file doesn't do search domains or dns settings, you mean /etc/resolv.conf which if you are using dnsmasq handles and overwrites that automatically and is a symbolic link
[14:05] <holstein_> Guest60877: can you simply mount from the live environment? if not, what are the errors?
[14:05] <Guest60877> The exact message is "chroot: failed ro run command ' /bin/bash': no such file or directory
[14:05] <holstein_> Guest60877: you mean, "failed to run"?
[14:05] <Guest60877> i can mount succesfully no errors
[14:05] <Guest60877> yes
[14:07] <adm001mi> I'm running a 32-bit ubuntu system... after installing chromium-browser and the pepperflashplugin-nonfree I get multiple "System program problem detected" and I can't run chrome at all
[14:08] <holstein_> adm001mi: try removing the config files.. you can just rename and test
[14:09] <phelix> So i went into grub and checked all my packages and ran a fsck and im still in the same problem
[14:09] <adm001mi> I feel such a noob for asking this: where can I find those?
[14:09] <holstein> phelix: and, as the guest account?
[14:09] <phelix> it goes to ubuntu login screen I can type in login and pass and get my desktop with desktop items that are on teh desktop and to get to term i have to open a folder and find the terminal executable
[14:10] <phelix> holstein: crap forgot about that.. let me try that
[14:10] <holstein> adm001mi: in the users /home
[14:10] <phelix> is there a command that will log me out of desktop or must I reboot again?
[14:10] <usr13> sprung: How many do you administer?
[14:10] <spion> Why isn't my layout switching shortcut working? this is setxkbmap -v http://paste.ubuntu.com/7731570/ - `setxkbmap mk` and `setxkbmap us` work in the terminal, but using capslock to switch layout doesn't do anything.
[14:10] <adm001mi> I knew it was to simple... lol thx... I'll get back at ya in a bit
[14:10] <usr13> sprung: Like 20 or 30? or 10 or 15?
[14:11] <eeee> phelix: just click on the button top right corner, and choose guest account
[14:11] <phelix> eeee: I don't have that
[14:11] <phelix> its not loading up
[14:11] <Ro99x> If I have services open to specific ports, can I make them available via subdomains etc. (regular url?)
[14:11] <Ro99x> In Apache
[14:11] <phelix> my left sidebar and top side bars are missing
[14:11] <phelix> and I can't move windows
[14:11] <phelix> I only have what icons I physcally had on my desktop
[14:11] <spion> note: if I set grp_led:caps then my caps lock led flashes quickly (turns on and off again)
[14:11] <spion> so I suspect there may be double-switching
[14:11] <moussa> sprung> what is your problem again?!
[14:12] <moussa> sorry i got disconnected on this laptop
[14:13] <usr13> moussa: I'm thinking your suggestion was a good solution for sprung, (using the hosts file).  But like you, I do not fully understand the problem.
[14:13] <Guest60877> I re-done the grub files
[14:14] <Guest60877> now when I reboot I get a GNU grub command line
[14:14] <spion> found the issue. apparently gnome-settings-daemon doesn't cooperate at all with setxkbmap shortcuts
[14:15] <moussa> if usr13> if he think hosts files wont do the job, then i think he doesn't need help at all
[14:15] <usr13> moussa: I don't know...
[14:15] <moussa> i think you know what i mean :-)
[14:15] <usr13> yea
[14:15] <adm001mi> there is no config for chrome in /home... in my ~/.config that is...
[14:15] <derp> Can I reinstall my ubuntu 14
[14:16] <derp> I get weird screen build up
[14:16] <derp> like transparent background, or unreadable background colors
[14:16] <usr13> derp: What?
[14:16] <cfhowlett> derp you can reinstall, but that may/may not fix it.  send a screenshot
[14:17] <usr13> !nomodeset | derp
[14:17] <usr13> (just a guess) derp ...
[14:17] <eeee> derp: if you reinstall dont choose reinstall if you have a dualboot, it will erase the whole disk and repartition,
[14:18] <phelix> I just tried the guest login and everything is completly empty. Just an empty  desktop not a single item launcher or sidebar
[14:18] <adm001mi> but it seems to work now... chromium-browser
[14:19] <phelix> you have any other ideas by chance on how to fix my desktop?
[14:19] <usr13> phelix: What are you trying to do?
[14:19] <phelix> I ran a big update last night and I booted my computer up and nothing is there
[14:19] <phelix> I have my desktop icons and that is it. and my desktopwall papers
[14:19] <eeee> phelix: try unity --reset
[14:19] <phelix> i have no top or bottom bar and no launcher and when a windo is open I can't move it or close it
[14:20] <phelix> reset option is now depreciated
[14:20] <moussa> phelix: can you tty to your box?
[14:20] <usr13> moussa: ssh?
[14:20] <phelix> I can get a terminal by clicking on a folder than going to computer /usr/bin/ and running terminal
[14:20] <moussa> no tty
[14:21] <phelix> is that like alt-f3 ?
[14:21] <moussa> yeah
[14:21] <eeee> phelix: ctrl+alt+f1
[14:21] <clh_> hi all, I need to look deeper into how /etc/network/interfaces is getting created during install.  is this the right places to look? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/installer-amd64/current/images/
[14:21] <phelix> doesn't seem to do anything
[14:21] <eeee> add the ctrl
[14:21] <usr13> moussa: You mean console mode?  Ctl-Alt-F6
[14:21] <moussa> yes
[14:22] <derp> finally done with my screenshot
[14:22] <derp> where do I upload?
[14:22] <eeee> phelix: ctrl+alt+f7 gets you back to the desktop
[14:22] <moussa> he might want to do sudo apt-get update then upgrade might fix his problem
[14:22] <phelix> yeah that worked
[14:22] <moussa> lo in
[14:22] <derp> http://i.snag.gy/bZquk.jpg
[14:22] <phelix> yea it was an upgrade that messed it all up
[14:22] <moussa> then type sudo apt-get update
[14:23] <phelix> ive done that
[14:23] <moussa> after it finish
[14:23] <freecoder> are linux drivers available for ATI SunPro 8570 graphics card?
[14:23] <derp> usr13, cfhowlett, http://i.snag.gy/bZquk.jpg this is good?
[14:23] <moussa> do it again
[14:23] <eeee> phelix: did you try apt-get upgrade?
 moussa: I'm thinking your suggestion was a good solution for sprung, (using the hosts file).  But like you, I do not fully understand the problem.  <-- that would be entirely incorrect, the hosts file has /absolutely nothing to do with/ DNS settings or search domain. You mean /etc/resolv.conf, and even then you would be incorrect because dnsmasq overrides that file continuously.
[14:23] <phelix> k its done.
[14:23] <cfhowlett> derp wait one, takes time for your signal to get over here to china.
[14:23] <phelix> no not upgrade
[14:23] <eeee> (btw i just remembered that's what screwed me, heh)
[14:23] <sprung> usr13, the hosts file simply overrides DNS lookup for an individual hostname, and nothing more
[14:24] <phelix> moussa: apt-get update is done.
[14:24] <sprung> Hi. I am in a situation where my laptop is on several different networks on a daily basis, a home LAN, a work LAN, and a work VPN i connect to from home. The problem is I lose my DNS server and search domain settings and keep having to manually do a "sudo service dnsmasq restart" to correct the settings. The restarting of the dnsmasq service always works, but it's incredibly annoying when I'm trying to do my job.
[14:24] <moussa> sprung> you seems to know what you doing unlike us, so in my opinion you don't need help
[14:25] <usr13> sprung: Correct
[14:25] <eeee> sprung: you can do sudo apt-get install dnsmasq, and edit the dnsmasq.hosts file
[14:25] <sprung> moussa, while i know you're trying to help me, and I appreciate that, if you can't help then don't.
[14:25] <cfhowlett> !behelpful
[14:25] <phelix> eeee: should I run sudo apt-get upgrade you think?
[14:25] <moussa> sprung> good call :-)
[14:25] <cfhowlett> phelix sudo apt-get dist-upgrade       ?
[14:26] <moussa> phelix> no just sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:26] <eeee> phelix: why not, yeah. worst case you can just run the recovery
[14:26] <usr13> sprung: Maybe you need to look at your home router's settings, and maybe update nameserver IP to something more reliable / appropriate.
[14:26] <phelix> doesn'ta ppear to want to upgrade anything
[14:26] <sprung> usr13, except i'm at work right now and i'm having the problem as well, so no.
[14:26] <phelix> and apt-get dist-upgrade is done
[14:27] <phelix> it seemed to install something
[14:27] <usr13> sprung: So you are losing access to a VPN you normally use?  (Is that it?)
[14:27] <sprung> usr13, again, restarting the dnsmasq service always fixes the problem, the issue is that i keep having to restart it every few minutes or domains don't resolve
[14:27] <joseph-andre> Does somebody knows is there is a way to get rid of the user selection in the top right corner in Unity.
[14:27] <sprung> usr13, again, no that is not the problem
[14:27] <moussa> phelix> after is done sudo reboot
[14:28] <phelix> k brb
[14:28] <sprung> eeee, dnsmasq is already installed
[14:28] <usr13> sprung: Explain
[14:28] <eeee> sprung: trust me install it as apt-get install dnsmasq
[14:29] <usr13> sprung: So what is dnsmasq serving?
[14:30] <eeee> phelix: i was thinking if you can run the update again
[14:30] <phelix> yeah that didn't fix it
[14:30] <eeee> maybe it never finished or something
[14:31] <rasteroid> join #debian
[14:31] <eeee> can you do a right click on the desktop and then background settings?
[14:31] <phelix> Yeah that is what I thought. I manually ran the update-manager and it didn't seem to find anything new
[14:31] <eeee> oh
[14:31] <phelix> I dont have settings. only  change background
[14:31] <samba35> i have messed dpkg /var/cache/ with rm now i am not able to install any package can you please tell me how do i rebuild dpkg /debconf so i can install any package
[14:31] <phelix> and new folder and new document
[14:32] <usr13> sprung: Why is dnsmask causing you not to resolve domian names on your laptop?  And why do you run dnsmask on your laptop in the first place?
[14:32] <usr13> sprung: What is in your /etc/resolv.conf file?
[14:33] <phelix> this really sucks.. at work with no computer =/ anyway to remove whatever updates the system did when it prompted me to run an update last night?
[14:34] <eeee> yeah i might change background, nevermind though since you tried it
[14:34] <sprung> usr13, are you aware that the /etc/resolv.conf in ubuntu is a symbolic link?
[14:34] <usr13> sprung: And your point is _______________?
[14:34] <sprung> usr13, if you're not aware of that then I'm questioning your ability to assist me
[14:35] <hebs> y0 so im finally gonna format and install an ssd in my desktop
[14:35] <hebs> so hows ubuntu looking these days?
[14:35] <derp> any suggestions to fix my problem?
[14:35] <usr13> sprung: Never mind, this is an OT conversation anyway, (and not getting any where so....).
[14:36] <hebs> is 64 bit support prevalent yet or should i just stick with 32 still?
[14:36] <thekkid> I have a Del Latitude #6430 with a docking station and 2 monitors with a nvidia GPU. It used to switch to the monitors as soon as I'd dock the laptop but since upgrading to 14.04 I have to go into nvidia settings and switch the display every time I dock. Any way to fix this?
[14:36] <samba35> dpkg: error: cannot read info directory: No such file or directory
[14:36] <samba35> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[14:36] <cfhowlett> samba35 reinstall is an option ...
[14:37] <cfhowlett> samba35 and please don't cross post
[14:37] <samba35> is that is the only option ?
[14:38] <cfhowlett> samba35 not the only one, but it would fix ... whatever you did.
[14:38] <samba35> ok
[14:39] <adm001mi> okay, so now my pepperflash isn't working...
[14:39] <no_gravity> Trying Ubuntu... there is no taskbar anymore, right? Is there any way to at least get a temporary taskbar?
[14:39] <rohan_> I have an upstart job that for some reason is starting as root even though I used setuid and setguid, do those options have to be in a specific place in the script?
[14:39] <no_gravity> I mean some key that brings up a list of the open windows and their titles?
[14:40] <rohan_> similarly can I simply put it in the home upstart directory? If so how do I enable this on Ubuntu 14.04
[14:41] <eeee> no_gravity: alt+tab ? alt+~ ?
[14:42] <rohan_> actually nevermind, I need the job to start on boot, not wait until the user logs in
[14:43] <no_gravity> eeee: alt+tab works. thanks. alt+~ .. i wouldnt know how to press that combo on a german keyboard.
[14:43] <eeee> it's the button above tab
[14:46] <adm001mi> just for reference, it is installed... chrome just says I need to install adobe flash player...
[14:46] <eeee> adm001mi: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[14:46] <OerHeks> adm001mi, chrome comes with a build-in recent flashplayer
[14:47] <adm001mi> OerHeks, then it doesn't work...
[14:47] <Uni_x> Hello
[14:47] <OerHeks> adm001mi, any site that says you need to install flash, might be malware.
[14:47] <dw1> how can I disable video preview icons in Nautilus?  in Preferences -> Preview it's set to "Only for files smaller than 10MB" but it still loads them even when the file is much larger
[14:47] <OerHeks> flash/chrome works great here
[14:49] <adm001mi> OerHeks, facebook is saying that...
[14:49] <eeee> is chrome alot better than firefox on ubuntu?
[14:50] <adm001mi> OerHeks, does that include chromium-browser?
[14:50] <adm001mi> eeee, I think that personal opinion
[14:50] <no_gravity> eeee: it has advantages and disadvantages. you can simply use both.
[14:50] <tomodachi> i find it faster , but firefox has nicer integration with ubuntu
[14:51] <eeee> on windows i think chrome is hands down better, but on ubuntu it almost feels like its chrome
[14:51] <tomodachi> i feel the opposite
[14:51] <tomodachi> that ff is fast on windows, but slow in linux
[14:51] <tomodachi> was a couple years since i compared though
[14:51] <dw1> chrome seems less bloated to me
[14:51] <dw1> but im just guessing
[14:51] <OerHeks> adm001mi, no, chromium is not chrome, same code indeed but without flash/pdf/stuff
[14:55] <adm001mi> So after re-installing the pepperflashplugin-nonfree I get the "System program problem detected"
[14:57] <joseph-andre> bye
[14:57] <Flolila> i have a problem. when i boot my computer i get an error that my sensor module is not working - do i need those?
[14:57] <adm001mi> so I removed everything from ~/.config/chrome as suggested... but chrome still isn't starting...
[14:59] <adm001mi> anyone got a clue on this issue?>
[15:00] <usr13> adm001mi: Maybe just download it again?
[15:00] <OerHeks> adm001mi, i have chrome, but no ~/.config/chrome .... only chromium
[15:01] <hebs> so 64 bit or 32 bit?
[15:01] <hebs> havent used ubuntu in a while
[15:01] <tomodachi> hebs: 64bit
[15:01] <bcvery> hebs, 64
[15:01] <hebs> are you sure
[15:01] <cfhowlett> hebs if your computer can handle it, 64
[15:01] <hebs> because last time i used 64, there were so many issues
[15:01] <tomodachi> there is absolutely no reasone to use 32 bit unless you have a cpu that super old
[15:01] <hebs> hence me switching back to 7
[15:01] <hebs> that and gaming
[15:02] <usr13> adm001mi: What error do you get?
[15:02] <arshavin> can i run office 2013 with wine?
[15:02] <tomodachi> hebs: you will be fine, no problem you will have will be because you have 64bit also you DO want to make use of all that EXTRA ram modern computers have right?
[15:03] <cfhowlett> arshavin doubtful  but you can run libreoffice
[15:03] <cfhowlett> !wine
[15:03] <OerHeks> arshavin, check the wineDB, i think you cannot.
[15:03] <tomodachi> arshavin: you can with crossover probably
[15:03] <usr13> arshavin: Probably.  But why not just use libreoffice or a native office suite?
[15:03] <arshavin> there was a tutorial to run 2010 version with wine but I have only 2013 version of office
[15:04] <tomodachi> arshavin: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/  ,  they have a free trial
[15:04] <arshavin> I think I should give codeweavers a try
[15:04] <cfhowlett> arshavin kingsoft writer or libreoffice writer
[15:04] <tomodachi> arshavin: nevermind it does not even work in crossover,then i doubt it will work in wine
[15:04] <traubisoda> hi there
[15:04] <tomodachi> arshavin:  http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/search?name=office+2013&search=app
[15:04] <arshavin> is kingsoft better than libreoffice?
[15:04] <usr13> arshavin: Join #winehq
[15:05] <traubisoda> is there anyone, who could help me out with NFS server-side copying?
[15:05] <arshavin> thanks @toodachi
[15:05] <tomodachi> arshavin: np  ,
[15:05] <arshavin> sorry @tomodachi
[15:05] <tomodachi> traubisoda: dont ask just ask
[15:05] <usr13> traubisoda: What do you need?
[15:06] <function9> what program can I use to find out what services are enabled and running?
[15:06] <cfhowlett> !details|traubisoda
[15:06] <traubisoda> okay :) I have a file server with 2 NFS mounts. When I copy files from one mount to the other, the copying is going through my desktop
[15:06] <usr13> function9: service
[15:06] <traubisoda> so I would like to set up NFS to manage the copying process server-side only
[15:06] <usr13> traubisoda: Can you give a bit more detail?
[15:07] <usr13> traubisoda: Then do it from the server....?
[15:07] <usr13> traubisoda: But I don't understand what the difference is, if the files are copyed from one directory to the other, what does it matter?
[15:08] <Jake> I accidently sudoed a program and now when I open it it Get permission errors, how do I get permission for a file located at /home/jake/.TrueCrypt/Configuration.xml
[15:08] <traubisoda> usr13 it is very slow, because it is being done on the network
[15:08] <function9> usr: cheers
[15:08] <usr13> traubisoda: Then use ssh
[15:09] <traubisoda> usr13, I would use it, but my family don't really know these kind of stuff :)
[15:09] <tomodachi> traubisoda: i dont think thats even possible. I know samba does magic stuff like that
[15:09] <traubisoda> however I read that server-side copying has been implemented to NFS
[15:09] <usr13> traubisoda: Ok, well that is a problem I've not discovered yet.
[15:09] <traubisoda> tomodachi, it's on NFS, not samba
[15:10] <traubisoda> usr13, :)
[15:10] <usr13> traubisoda: Maybe just use samba?
[15:10] <tomodachi> traubisoda: like i said , i dont think its possible with NFS, but i believe samba (perhaps only in windows) has a similair ability
[15:10] <traubisoda> usr13, I've tried, it's the same
[15:11] <tomodachi> so you need the performance? just upgrade your network then
[15:11] <usr13> traubisoda: I guess I've het to work with files big enough to make that much difference, (didn't even realize they were not just going from one dir to the other).
[15:11] <usr13> traubisoda: gigabit?
[15:12] <traubisoda> usr13, the files are mostly HD series
[15:12] <usr13> traubisoda: or 10/100?
[15:12] <traubisoda> usr13, 10/100
[15:12] <usr13> traubisoda: Just upgrade your equipment.
[15:12] <serdem420>  hey guys, how can i change permisson of current user. i would like to get root privilages, to be able to write to all files and directories.
[15:12] <serdem420> thanks.
[15:12] <serdem420> i have tried many things but couldn't mange it.
[15:12] <usr13> serdem420: sudo?
[15:13] <serdem420> usr13, i would like to use in ftp.
[15:13] <traubisoda> usr13, I may will, but I'll still won't sleep until I figure it out :D there has to be a solution in 2014 for stuff like this
[15:13] <serdem420> usr13, so sudo does not work for me.
[15:13] <usr13> serdem420: So you are asking about ftp?
[15:14] <serdem420> usr13, my current username is "ubuntu" i need to be able to change all files and directories. iget permisson error when i try to change any file or directory at this time.
[15:14] <adm001mi> usr13, already tried that 6 times...
[15:14] <usr13> serdem420: I think you need to give us specific information on what exactly you are tying to do, and maybe we can come up with a solution.
[15:15] <traubisoda> usr13, tomodachi, I've found this, but I don't really know what to do with it: https://wiki.linux-nfs.org/wiki/index.php/Server_Side_Copy
[15:15] <serdem420> via sftp
[15:15] <adm001mi> usr13: "System program problem detected"