[02:42] <shadeslayer> morning
[03:02] <shadeslayer> micahg: is it just me or does backportpackage not allow you to specify the version of the backport?
[03:02] <micahg> shadeslayer: you can specify what string to add if that's what you're asking
[03:02] <shadeslayer> hm
[03:03]  * shadeslayer checks
[03:04] <shadeslayer> micahg: 0.5.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.1~ppa1 looks really weird tbh :P
[03:04] <micahg> shadeslayer: it's the new way to do it
[03:04]  * shadeslayer was aiming for 0.5.0-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1
[03:04] <micahg> ~release won't work when we get past z
[03:06] <shadeslayer> true
[03:06] <micahg> and if we wait past u, we might have no recourse to do what we just did
[03:07] <micahg> it takes a little getting used to, but isn't that bad
[03:12] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: hello sir!
[03:14] <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: ohai
[03:14] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: ok so the package did not build, and I did get it uploaded to the PPA
[03:15] <ahoneybun> but it did build
[03:15] <ahoneybun> not
[03:16] <shadeslayer> yeah I kind of expected that
[03:16] <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: can you show me the build logs
[03:17] <shadeslayer> just to confirm what I thought was wrong
[03:17] <ahoneybun> not sure where it is
[03:17] <shadeslayer> need your lp page
[03:17] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/kubuntu-ppa/+packages
[03:18] <shadeslayer>  Could not find a configuration file for package "TelepathyQt4" that is compatible with requested version "<IP_ADDRESS>".
[03:18] <shadeslayer> you'll need to backport telepathy qt as well :)
[03:18] <ahoneybun> where did you read that?
[03:19] <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: click the amd64 link
[03:19] <shadeslayer> right next to the red cross
[03:19] <shadeslayer> and then click buildlog
[03:20] <ahoneybun> I saw that :) and found that part
[03:20] <shadeslayer> scroll down to the CMake output
[03:20] <ahoneybun> Yea I see :) ok what next
[03:21] <shadeslayer> you'll need to backport telepathy-qt
[03:21] <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: see man backportpackage
[03:21] <ahoneybun> ok steps sir! :)
[03:21] <ahoneybun> command?
[03:21] <shadeslayer> I'm not going to tell you everything :P
[03:21] <shadeslayer> read the man page and figure out how to backport the telepathy-qt source package
[03:22] <shadeslayer> Everything you need is in that ^ line
[03:22] <ahoneybun> ok I try sir!
[03:22] <shadeslayer> and don't call me sir ...
[03:22] <shadeslayer> makes me feel old like ScottK
[03:22] <ahoneybun> oh sorry
[03:23] <ScottK> shadeslayer: ktp-debugger needs FFe then.
[03:23] <shadeslayer> ScottK: will do
[03:24] <ahoneybun> backport that package
[03:25] <shadeslayer> oh fooey, telepathy qt has new symbols on arm
[03:27] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: I'm still looking on that man page
[03:27] <shadeslayer> ok
[03:28] <ahoneybun> having issues finding
[03:28] <shadeslayer> man backportpackage?
[03:29] <ahoneybun> so I need to find the source package and backport it
[03:29] <shadeslayer> ScottK: can you pass libktpcommoninternalsprivate3 from new?
[03:29] <ScottK> Probably not tonight.
[03:29] <ScottK> Also needs FFe.
[03:29] <shadeslayer> will file
[03:34] <ahoneybun> I feel sily
[03:34] <ahoneybun> silly
[05:30] <shadeslayer> hm
[05:30] <shadeslayer>  * (ktimetracker) [i386] < in the seeds
[05:31] <shadeslayer> any particular reason why only for i386?
[05:38] <jussi> Morning all
[05:42] <shadeslayer> hi jussi
[05:43] <jussi> heya shadeslayer
[08:03] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ping
[08:32] <shadeslayer> ->lunch
[08:52] <shadeslayer> could someone explain, in detail, how the kubuntu-desktop task get's generated?
[09:04] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yo?
[09:04] <shadeslayer> pm
[09:11] <shadeslayer> Riddell: oh btw : * (ktimetracker) [i386] < in the seeds
[09:11] <shadeslayer> any reason why we don't want ktt on amd64
[09:12] <Riddell> spooky
[09:12] <Riddell> go ahead and fix it
[09:12] <shadeslayer> ok
[09:13] <shadeslayer> should I just drop the i386?
[09:13] <shadeslayer> or add amd64 ( does it make sense to have ktt on arm/ppc/etc )
[09:13] <Riddell> just drop i386
[09:14] <shadeslayer> okay
[09:15] <Riddell> although running it I get an error box saying "Could not create the KTimeTracker part."
[09:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: the other question being, why do we have the desktop file from seeds in kubuntu-meta ?
[09:16] <Riddell> shadeslayer: how do you mean?
[09:16] <shadeslayer> well .... pull-lp-source kubuntu-meta
[09:16] <shadeslayer> and the desktop file from seeds ( not desktop-i386 or amd64 ) is in there
[09:17] <Riddell> oh dunno, can be removed
[09:17] <shadeslayer> and looks like something is horribly wrong with ktt
[09:18] <Riddell> shadeslayer: best remove it from the seed until we find out what
[09:18] <shadeslayer> ok
[09:19] <shadeslayer> fixed
[09:20] <shadeslayer> good guy bzr, says you don't have a push destination, tells you how to fix it
[09:21] <shadeslayer> Riddell: want me to fix the meta package as well?
[09:21]  * shadeslayer keeps typing kubuntu-meat instead of kubuntu-meta
[09:22] <shadeslayer> ah yes, this also reminds me of another bug
[09:22] <shadeslayer> Riddell: kubuntu-desktop^ differs from kubuntu-desktop
[09:23] <shadeslayer> iirc kubuntu-desktop^ depends on kde-workspace
[09:23] <shadeslayer> the meta package does not
[09:28] <Riddell> hmm curious
[09:29] <Riddell> shadeslayer: can you add kde-workspace to the seed, just incase that causes problems
[09:30] <shadeslayer> syre
[09:30] <shadeslayer> *sure
[09:31] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can I drop kde-workspace-bin ? kde-workspace already depends on it
[09:31] <Riddell> yeah
[09:32] <shadeslayer> done
[09:38] <shadeslayer> wtf
[09:38] <shadeslayer> X hogging all memory
[09:38] <shadeslayer> bbiab
[09:52] <shadeslayer> bleh, X corruption all around
[11:01] <yofel> Riddell: ktimetracker is supposed to be fixed in 4.9.1 according to the upstream bug
[11:01] <Riddell> ah hah
[11:07] <Riddell> meta-kde-telepathy 0.5.0ubuntu1 produces uninstallable binaries:
[11:07] <Riddell> kde-telepathy
[11:07] <Riddell> shadeslayer: can you see what's up there?
[11:09] <shadeslayer> stuff in New
[11:09] <Riddell> aah
 shadeslayer: ktp-debugger needs FFe then. <shadeslayer> ScottK: can you pass libktpcommoninternalsprivate3 from new? <ScottK> Also needs FFe.
[11:10] <shadeslayer> who's up for filing some FFe's?
[11:10] <shadeslayer> :D
[11:13] <shadeslayer> Riddell: iirc caligraactive needs a bit of investigation
[11:13] <Riddell> shadeslayer: how so?
[11:14] <shadeslayer> bug 981438
[11:14] <shadeslayer> upstream says : <Shaan7> shadeslayer: hi, as ingwa pointed out, after 105146c7114882bde6e1adf7e28376892c18a070, CA wont complain about metadata models not installed
[11:15] <shadeslayer> Upstream also fixed bug 998324
[11:15] <shadeslayer> so we might want the patch included
[11:17] <shadeslayer> bleh, X usage increasing again :(
[11:20] <shadeslayer> https://projects.kde.org/projects/calligra/repository/revisions/66ca55e975eb6272199acc7b201b0bf6d80e2b63/diff/words/part/words.desktop
[11:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer: well I'm packaging up 2.5.1
[11:20] <shadeslayer> oh ok
[11:20] <Riddell> so that should include those fixes
[11:20]  * shadeslayer is not sure if that patch is in 2.5.1
[11:21] <shadeslayer> let's see :)
[11:21] <Riddell> hmm you're right, it's not
[11:21] <Riddell> I wonder what X-Calligra-DefaultMimeTypes= is anyway
[11:21] <shadeslayer> it's in the 2.5 branch though
[11:22] <shadeslayer> Riddell: afaict KDE uses that to determine which application should open a file when 2 apps are associated with the same mimetype
[11:23] <shadeslayer> so if you right click a text file > open with > Calligra is placed above kate
[11:25] <Riddell> hmm I'm not convinced but ok
[11:25] <shadeslayer> you could edit the desktop file and check :)
[11:35] <Riddell> shadeslayer: no change, only MimeType= affects dolphin, which is as it should be
[11:36] <Riddell> X-Calligra-DefaultMimeTypes= must do something internal
[11:38] <shadeslayer> hm
[11:38] <shadeslayer> dunno then, I showed upstream the bug and they said that that's how they can handle it
[11:39] <shadeslayer> iirc there's another way to set it
[11:39] <shadeslayer> s/it/the default application for a mimetype
[11:39] <shadeslayer> keditfiletype text/plain
[11:58] <Riddell> qt 5 beta out http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt-5-Beta
[11:58] <Riddell> but no split tars
[11:58] <Riddell> I'm not sure it's worth the time to package it until they split the tars cos that'll mean re-packaging it
[12:01] <shadeslayer> darn
[12:01] <shadeslayer> beat me to it
[12:05] <shadeslayer> Most notably, you will need decent OpenGL drivers on Windows for Qt Quick to work, and there are issues remaining with Qt Multimedia on platforms *other than Linux.*
[12:05] <shadeslayer> that makes me feel good inside :P
[12:06] <mikhas> Riddell, you mean http://nargothrond.macieira.info/~thiago/split_sources/ ?
[12:07] <Riddell> mikhas: interesting
[12:07] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1043573] Overlapping icons in KDE Task Manager @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1043573 (by David Burleigh)
[12:19] <shadeslayer> heh
[13:53] <jussi01> shadeslayer: still up? any idea why ktp is being held back in quantal ?
[14:05] <shadeslayer> jussi01: yes, stuff being held in binary new atm
[14:06] <shadeslayer> I haven't had the time to file FFe's for it, will do tomorrow ( I thought they were covered by the meta FFe, apparently not (
[14:09] <jussi01> shadeslayer: ahh ok
[14:13] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1043852] [kde-netbook] different background images @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1043852 (by Exsudat)
[14:22] <jussi01> ubottu: ignore kubotu
[14:22] <shadeslayer> heh, wot
[14:22] <shadeslayer> jussi01: can you make !find find stuff from quantal?
[14:23] <shadeslayer> instead of precise
[14:23] <jussi01> !find kde quantal
[14:23] <jussi01> like that?
[14:23] <shadeslayer> sure, but I'm lazy and don't want to type quantal
[14:23] <shadeslayer> !find kde
[14:23] <jussi01> oh you poor thing :P
[14:24] <shadeslayer> should just find using quantal
[14:24] <shadeslayer> yes, typing quantal is too annoying :P
[14:24] <yofel> yeah, you can usually assume that people in here would search in quantal
[14:25]  * shadeslayer hi5's yofel
[14:25]  * yofel hi5's back
[14:25] <shadeslayer> any news on UDS sponsorships?
[14:27] <jussi01> !find shadeslayer
[14:27] <shadeslayer> aw :(
[14:28]  * shadeslayer hugs ubottu anyway
[14:28] <jussi01> shadeslayer: hows that huh?
[14:28] <shadeslayer> that hurt :(
[14:28] <shadeslayer> maybe .. I exist in quantal
[14:28]  * yofel hugs jussi01 :)
[14:29] <shadeslayer> but then you didn't enable quantal by default, and I'm lazy ...
[14:29] <jussi01> ergh
[14:29] <jussi> shadeslayer: I did enable quantal by default...
[14:29] <jussi> in here...
[14:29] <shadeslayer> oh
[14:29] <shadeslayer> ok
[14:29] <shadeslayer> awesome
[14:29] <shadeslayer> jussi++
[14:30] <shadeslayer> you just wanted the karma didn't you
[14:30] <highvoltage> I can't point a finger
[14:30]  * highvoltage is a karma whore
[14:31] <jussi> shadeslayer: nah, I just want that ktp feature ;)
[14:31] <shadeslayer> riiiighhhhttt
[14:31] <jussi> highvoltage: back to your old nick I see
[14:31] <shadeslayer> hmm ... my plasma script doesn't run
[14:31] <highvoltage> jussi: yeah I couldn't get used to the new one
[14:32] <highvoltage> jussi: I guess I'm stuck with 'highvoltage' for life.
[14:32] <jussi> highvoltage: :D
[14:32] <jussi> highvoltage: Im still waiting for some information from you
[14:32]  * jussi PMS
[14:32] <highvoltage> ah right
[14:32] <highvoltage> I'll get to that today :)
[15:48] <shumski> shadeslayer: allyrighty :-)
[15:48] <shadeslayer> :D
[15:48] <shumski> god, i suck at spelling today
[15:49] <shadeslayer> shumski: btw I'm not familiar with firefox-kde.patch
[15:49] <shadeslayer> I just did some minor changes to debian/rules to make ff build
[15:49] <shadeslayer> afaik apachelogger handles that part
[15:50] <shumski> shadeslayer: yes, formerly it was done to copy mozilla's browser.xul and then patch it, now it pulled from /dev/null
[15:52] <shumski> shadeslayer: actually, yes, only firefox-kde.patch really changed for ff15, mozilla-kde is the same
[15:52] <shadeslayer> I'm wondering why we need this : https://github.com/blue-shell/firefox-kde/blob/master/debian/patches/firefox-kde-114.patch
[15:54] <shumski> shadeslayer: i think that's really not needed. that's SuSE specific
[15:54] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:54] <shadeslayer> the less we patch ff, the more maintainable it becomes ...
[15:55] <shadeslayer> https://github.com/blue-shell/firefox-kde/blob/master/debian/patches/firefox-kde.patch is what gives me nightmares tbh
[15:55] <shadeslayer> especially seeing how stuff is ifdef'd in there for OS X and Windows
[15:57] <shumski> yeah, don't know why is that needed. for kde on windows perhaps? :D
[15:57] <shadeslayer> I ... don't even want to support that usecase
[15:58] <shumski> :D
[15:58] <shadeslayer> that's just setting yourself up for so much fail
[15:58] <shumski> also, kde.js is not really needed
[15:58] <shadeslayer> awesome, we can drop more stuff
[15:58] <shumski> thats only relevant on the first run
[15:58] <shadeslayer> shumski: are you sure though?
[15:59] <shadeslayer> last time I checked the build failed
[15:59] <shadeslayer> because kde.js was in the file manifest
[15:59] <shumski> well, it's mentioned in firefox-kde patch, but you can drop it from there
[15:59] <shumski> tested - works
[15:59] <shadeslayer> alrighty
[15:59] <shumski> or mozilla-kde
[16:00] <shumski> no, last hunk of firefox-kde
[16:01] <shadeslayer> actually, moz-kde does mention kde.js as well
[16:01] <shadeslayer> https://github.com/blue-shell/firefox-kde/blob/master/debian/patches/mozilla-kde.patch
[16:01] <shadeslayer> pfft
[16:02] <shadeslayer> pref("browser.preferences.instantApply", false); < If I read that right, that just disables applying preferences instantaneously
[16:02] <shumski> ahh, maybe that's an ugly hack to determine we are inside kde session ?
[16:02] <shumski> yes
[16:03] <shumski> i think it doesn't for some time with vanilla ff
[16:04] <shadeslayer> I have no idea, I'm looking at the patches for the first time :)
[16:04] <shadeslayer> plus, really tired
[16:04] <shadeslayer> I think I'll go sleep now
[16:04] <shadeslayer> shumski: will try and clean up the patches on Monday
[16:04] <shumski> shadeslayer: i also need to grab something to eat, we'll discuss it later :)
[16:04] <shumski> shadeslayer: OK, cool
[16:05] <shadeslayer> shumski: I'm around from 8 AM IST to 9 PM IST
[16:05] <shadeslayer> so feel free to email/ping on irc
[16:05] <shumski> will do :)
[16:05] <shadeslayer> night everyone :)
[16:05] <shumski> night :)
[16:12] <JontheEchidna> found the split tarballs: http://releases.qt-project.org/qt5.0/beta1/split_sources/
[16:21] <JontheEchidna> according to the todo, canonical has some preliminary packaging here: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/qt5-daily/
[16:21] <JontheEchidna> thought it doesn't seem to split the modules up in to binary packages. (1 package per source)
[16:24] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: right it's very simple packaging that
[16:25] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: I suppose we'd use those as a base, then upload improved packages to kubuntu-ppa/experimental?
[16:26] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: that would be a plan yes
[16:31] <JontheEchidna> I'll write something up for the notes.kde.org pad
[16:32] <Riddell> great thanks
[16:36] <soee> can you help me a bit with buiding lightdm: http://pastebin.com/R9RD7W5H ?
[16:38] <shumski> soee: you need liblightdm-qt-2-dev
[16:39] <soee> ok let me try
[16:40] <JontheEchidna> Qt5 todo set up on the kubuntu-ninjas notepad: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas
[16:40] <soee> hmm it requires a lot of extra packages :/
[16:40] <soee> gtk related
[16:41] <shumski> soee: so does lightdm :p
[16:41] <shumski> try with --no-install-recommends
[16:42] <JontheEchidna> sudo apt-get build-dep lightdm-kde-greeter --no-install-recommends
[16:42] <Quintasan_> \o
[16:42] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan_: how've you been?
[16:43] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: Fine, my connection was bad :P
[16:43] <JontheEchidna> :P
[16:43] <JontheEchidna> started uni yet?
[16:43] <Quintasan> Sorting out minor stiff and trying to pass that damn driving license
[16:43] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: nah, uni starts in more than a month
[16:43] <JontheEchidna> ah, cool
[16:43] <JontheEchidna> mine started this monday :s
[16:44] <soee> ok  now how can i switch to lightdm ?
[16:44] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: Enjoy :P
[16:44] <JontheEchidna> haha
[16:47] <shumski> soee: did you install lightdm?
[16:47] <soee> shumski, yes
[16:48] <shumski> soee: ok, than do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[16:48] <shumski> and choose lightdm
[16:49] <soee> shumski, but this do nothing
[16:49] <BluesKaj> I've been tryinto install firefox-kde from the blue shell ppa , which I added to the sources.list and aupdated , but the ff-kde isn't being located there
[16:50] <shumski> soee: no dialog?
[16:50] <BluesKaj> am I missing something ?
[16:50] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, ?
[16:51] <soee> shumski, ok it looks like lightdm is not installed
[16:51] <shumski> soee: something like this: http://i.imgur.com/pEVx5.png
[16:51] <soee> but first of all - ir requires a lot of other packages right ? indicators etc ?
[16:52] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: I have signed off for the day ... :), hopefully someone else will be able to help
[16:52] <shumski> soee: don't know about that, try with sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lightdm
[16:52] <soee> http://pastebin.com/PchfwiAh
[16:52] <shumski> soee: so it doesn't pull the recommendencies
[16:53] <shadeslayer> wrong package soee
[16:53] <shadeslayer> its lightdm kde greeter or sth
[16:53] <soee> huh?
[16:54] <shumski> soee: i'm a little rusty with polish :D
[16:54] <shadeslayer> !find lightdm-kde
[16:54] <shadeslayer> that ^
[16:55] <soee> yeah thats better
[16:56] <soee> ok done :) thank you
[16:56] <soee> oh an lightdm has separate configuration section as i see
[16:56] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, so you're still here , should I just install plain firefox since firefox-kde isn't available altho I've installed firefox-kde-support
[16:57] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: barely, there's no firefox-kde :)
[16:57] <shadeslayer> you need to install the blue shell PPA and the version of ff in that ppa
[16:58] <shadeslayer> you can do that with sudo apt-get install firefox=version
[16:58] <BluesKaj> well the ppa shows firefox -kde is available in the ppa , shadeslayer , but it's not loacted when I try to instrall it
[16:59] <shadeslayer> uhh ....
[16:59] <shadeslayer> that's weird
[16:59] <BluesKaj> yeah
[16:59] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: you're on precise ?
[16:59] <BluesKaj> nope , quantal
[17:00] <BluesKaj> installed the quantal ppa
[17:00] <shadeslayer> hm, I am not sure, it should work ..
[17:00] <BluesKaj> https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/firefox-kde
[17:00] <shadeslayer> did you do a apt-get update?
[17:00] <BluesKaj> yes
[17:00] <BluesKaj> iut's listed in syanaptic as well
[17:01] <shumski> There's no firefox-kde in the pool: http://ppa.launchpad.net/blue-shell/firefox-kde/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/
[17:01] <shadeslayer> dafuq
[17:02] <shadeslayer> how is that even possible
[17:02] <shumski> there's firefox-kde-support, but no firefox-kde
[17:03] <shadeslayer> ah yes, there is no ff kde afaik
[17:03] <BluesKaj> then it should be changed on launchpad , they have sudo apt-get install firefox-kde as part of the instructions
[17:04] <BluesKaj> on the ppa that is
[17:05] <shadeslayer> fixed
[17:05] <shadeslayer> thx for pointing that out :)
[17:12] <BluesKaj> looks like the same ol' FF to me ...maybe it will be smoother and quicker with kde support
[17:14] <shumski> BluesKaj: basically, you'll get this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCt6BzFiDts
[18:16] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1003721] VLC causes massive disk usage when accessing settings @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1003721 (by actionparsnip)
[21:14] <Riddell> 18:05 < infinity> Riddell: Did you have any plans to fix the symbols files in telepathy-qt for ARM and PPC?  It's been FTBFS all month...
[21:15] <Riddell> note to anyone ^
[21:18] <ScottK> shadeslayer: ^^^


[08:53] <guiverc> i just noted https://askubuntu.com/questions/1458326/how-come-xubuntu-and-ubuntu-unity-are-not-yet-providing-downloads-for-22-04-2 where https://xubuntu.org/download/ still points to 22.04.1
[09:07] <Unit193> ...WP is broken as crap, I go to edit that link and the little popup dialog is flashing...
[09:10] <guiverc> thanks Unit193
[09:10] <Unit193> Nothing I can do though..
[09:15]  * guiverc ain't no fan of WP either..   I prefer word perfect (over wordpress) but I suspect you didn't mean word perfect...
[19:59] <krytarik> bluesabre, guiverc[m], arraybolt3: https://git.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/xubuntu/commit/?id=ed3698ba0b35919bc3326444c96752a7bda8a9db - I guess this should have been backported to 22.04 as it's an LTS and I'm seeing reports in #xubuntu about it shipping with chromium-browser too (of course also without the snap part of it as in LP bug #1991470)
[19:59] -ubottu:#xubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 1991470 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Jammy) "x-www-browser in Xubuntu is broken, affects Ubiquity" [Undecided, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1991470
[19:59] -ubottu:#xubuntu-devel- Commit ed3698b in ~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/xubuntu "Include firefox to satisfy x-www-browser (LP: #1991470)"