[09:28] <Dell-Net> i have a problem when the screensaver starts the kdm restarts
[09:28] <elyon> hmm... the ati drivers couldn't support 3D acceleration at all.
[09:28] <dwidmann> and that was with a pretty close video card as well elyon, a 9700
[09:29] <Ayabara> anyone know if there is a precompiled package of krusader 1.80b1 floating around?
[09:29] <Dell-Net> when i trying to change the screen saver "settings desktop" -> kdm restarts
[09:29] <Dell-Net> it have worked beore
[09:30] <Dell-Net> before*
[09:30] <dwidmann> Dell-Net, could be some sort of issue with your video card drivers ... tends to be when X restarts because you try to use OpenGL or something else'
[09:30] <Dell-Net> hmm yes but it have worked for me
[09:30] <Dell-Net> without any  problem
[09:30] <elyon> OKay, how about another problem?  In KDE, when I try to Add New Panel, the Kpanel app crashes... every time.
[09:31] <dwidmann> elyon: that's odd ... I'll try it .... hmm, couldn't reproduce it
[09:31] <elyon> dwidmann: Okay, let me change that.  Its only when I try to add the "Universal Sidebar"
[09:32] <dwidmann> Can't reproduce that either, it shows up fine for me
[09:33] <elyon> Any idea how I can track it down?
[09:34] <dwidmann> Hmm, not sure
[09:34] <Dell-Net> dwidmann do u have any solution ?
[09:34] <dwidmann> Dell-Net, which video driver are you using?
[09:34] <Dell-Net> nvidia
[09:35] <dwidmann> version?
[09:35] <Dell-Net> 1.0-9629
[09:35] <dwidmann> hmmm, I've not had any trouble with that either
[09:35] <Dell-Net> maybee it helps to reinstall it
[09:36] <dwidmann> though, it might still be worth it to update to the 1.9-9631 drivers
[09:36] <dwidmann> *1.0
[09:36] <Dell-Net> hmm ok i gonna give it a try
[09:36] <dwidmann> envy is a neat little tool if you haven't tried it, Dell-Net
[09:36] <Dell-Net> strange when i dont had any problem with it before
[09:36] <Dell-Net> envy?
[09:39] <Dell-Net> ok give that a try 2 :)
[09:41] <dwidmann> !envy | Dell-Net
[09:41] <ubotu> Dell-Net: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[09:42] <d0dge> How to get DirectX9 for Wine?
[09:42] <d0dge> I've been trying the WineCVS.sh but all I got is error on Make
[09:43] <d0dge> Any howtos or manuals ?
[09:43] <usamahashimi> hello everyone!
[09:44] <usamahashimi> what should I install or configure my kde so that when I hover my mouse to any audio file, kde can preview it (without clicking it, like gnome can do)?
[09:44] <dwidmann> usamahashimi: view -> preview -> sound files
[09:45] <dwidmann> d0dge, might have more luck in #wine
[09:45] <d0dge> dwidmann: Oh, you're right
[09:45] <usamahashimi> dwidmann: it is already selected
[09:46] <dwidmann> usamahashimi: that should be it, if it's still not working, try restarting konqui
[09:46] <usamahashimi> it is selected since the first day of installation, still i have to restart konq?
[09:47] <dwidmann> Not sure
[09:47] <dwidmann> also, is it a file you can actually play back?
[09:48] <usamahashimi> dwidmann: sorry?
[09:48] <dwidmann> can you play back the file normally in something else (amarok, kaffeine, etc) ... just checking because as we all know, mp3's can't be played back by default, and they happen to be rather popular so I thought I'd ask
[09:49] <usamahashimi> dwidmann: yes, i have installed restricted formats and can play ALL types of formats :)
[09:50] <dwidmann> hmm
[09:51] <usamahashimi> dwidmann: i tried to google but dont know what phrase i should i put in search box, google was misleading me, it was thinking that i want to buy a mouse :)
[09:52] <dwidmann> hahahaha, how silly of google
[09:52] <JOSF> How do I revert to the last installed version of a package ? Installed some libcairo update and gkrellm crashes on it. So I want the last libcairo back again.
[09:52] <usamahashimi> dwidmann: after all google is not human :)
[09:53] <dwidmann> that's right, google is a god, and google decided you wanted to buy a mouse today (kidding)
[09:53] <usamahashimi> dwidmann: so can you tell me any solution of that problem?
[09:54] <dwidmann> do you want the good news or the bad from my little test?
[09:54] <usamahashimi> both :)
[09:55] <dwidmann> the good news is that preview worked great for me on ogg and wav files
[09:55] <dwidmann> are you sure you still want the bad?
[09:55] <usamahashimi> that it did not worked for mp3 and other files?
[09:56] <dwidmann> and that is correct, show him what he has won!
[09:56] <dwidmann> i'm not sure why, I'll have to consult the mighty google for information ;)
[09:56] <usamahashimi> i won my lunch, cuse i am going for lunch :)
[09:56] <usamahashimi> thanks by the way
[09:57] <Dell-Net> yeap I installed envy and then the newest driver and now it works again thank you very much :)
[09:57] <dwidmann> Dell-Net, good to hear it
[09:57] <Dell-Net> :)
[10:00] <dwidmann> I had to redo my drivers an hour or so ago, seems there was an xorg update this week
[10:01] <Dell-Net> yeah?
[10:03] <dwidmann> yeah ... it took me a few minutes of playing to figure out why X crashed after being up for about 10 seconds
[10:03] <dwidmann> (every time)
[10:04] <Dell-Net> hmm ok seems to have been i update then
[10:04] <Dell-Net> when i locked my computer it crashed
[10:07] <swe> newbie I will move some files from kubuntu machine A to B and I think about using shared folder. Do i need to install samba or what ??
[10:08] <dwidmann> swe: you could use nfs
[10:08] <dwidmann> of course, sama would also work
[10:09] <dwidmann> *samba
[10:09] <swe> yes but what is easiest ... I found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo?highlight=%28nfs%29
[10:11] <kkosmo> !samba
[10:11] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:11] <crazy_bus> ktorrent loads from a new user
[10:12] <ArtOfBlue> excuse, anyone know hot to make my iroffer work on ubuntu ?
[10:12] <danny> hello does anyone know how to put some programs on a DVD so that i dont have to download them from the repositories?
[10:12] <kkosmo> what you want to do danny i dont understand
[10:12] <kkosmo> you want
[10:13] <kkosmo> to see dvd
[10:13] <kkosmo> or to make
[10:13] <jpiccolo> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[10:13] <kkosmo> ?
[10:13] <jpiccolo> kernel?
[10:13] <kkosmo> locate stdio.h
[10:13] <kkosmo> try
[10:14] <danny> kkosmo: for example i want to use the program atanks, but i am not connected to the internet - how do i put it on a dvd so that i could install it from there?
[10:15] <kkosmo> oo man i dont know about that sorry are you want to burn it on dvd
[10:15] <danny> kkosmo: yes exactly - i want to burn it on a dvd so i dont have to download it again and again everytime i reinstall kubuntu
[10:16] <kkosmo> so burn it what the problem
[10:16] <ArtOfBlue> Anyone here that can help me set up iroffer ? I would really appreciate the help
[10:17] <danny> kkosmo: i install using apt-get install - do you mean to say that i should just burn the files?
[10:17] <kkosmo> no when you install in apt the install file is saved
[10:17] <kkosmo> burn the install file
[10:19] <danny> kksmo: ok thanks i will see if i can locate the files that i need
[10:19] <kkosmo> here
[10:20] <kkosmo> here /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:20] <kkosmo> ok
[10:22] <danny> kkosmo: ok thanks :) :)
[10:22] <kkosmo> no problem
[10:22] <kkosmo> =[
[10:22] <kkosmo> =]
[10:31] <jpiccolo> anyone have vmware server running?
[10:33] <startswithz> how do I enable/disable desktop icons in KDE?
[10:33] <mineur[sleep] > startswithz: rightclick on it... configure and then behaviour
[10:34] <mineur[sleep] > ok I'm awakez now :p
[10:35] <startswithz> thanks
[10:35] <mineur> np
[10:35] <jpiccolo> mineur: you ever get vmware-server up?
[10:36] <mineur> no, sorry
[10:36] <jpiccolo> ok
[10:36] <jpiccolo> i think it has a bug in it
[10:38] <startswithz> I'm trying to set up beryl but the window borders aren't showing up
[10:38] <startswithz> anyone have any ideas how to fix the problem?
[10:39] <mineur> is beryl set as the window manager?
[10:49] <bertolino> Goede morgen!!
[10:49] <mineur> hallo
[10:50] <bertolino> dit is mijn eerste irc ervaring...
[10:50] <kkosmo> !beryl
[10:50] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:51] <bertolino> spreekt er iemand nederlands?
[10:51] <mineur> ja
[10:52] <bertolino> oh dat is wel plezant..
[10:53] <mineur> waar kom je vandaan?
[10:54] <bertolino> Ik kom uit Belgi dicht bij de nederlandse grens
[10:54] <mineur> ahzo
[10:54] <stdin> !de
[10:54] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:54] <mineur> stdin: wrong :p
[10:54] <mineur> !be
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <mineur> !nl
[10:55] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[10:55] <stdin> why I did de
[10:55] <mineur> :p
[10:55] <mineur> not the same language :)
[10:55] <stdin> I just thought it looked similar, I'm not an expert :P
[10:56] <bertolino> ok, nog een fijne dag! ik moet nog wat werken!
[10:56] <mineur> hehe
[10:56] <mineur> have fun bertolino :)
[10:56] <kkosmo> stdin:
[10:56] <kkosmo> how can i make shortcut that do some command?
[10:56] <apokryphos> English only in here guys
[10:57] <stdin> kkosmo: depends what command you want to do?
[10:57] <kkosmo> its dont change i only want to make the shortcut
[10:57] <jpiccolo> i am running feisty how can i go back to edgy
[10:58] <mineur> fresh install :)
[10:58] <apokryphos> !downgrade
[10:58] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[10:58] <kkosmo> !shortcut
[10:58] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[10:58] <stdin> kkosmo: do you want a shortcut to an application?
[10:59] <jpiccolo> mineur, well how can i go to a older kernel
[10:59] <kkosmo> to close
[10:59] <kkosmo> application
[10:59] <kkosmo> somthing like
[10:59] <kkosmo> pkill amarok
[10:59] <kkosmo> this the command
[11:00] <kkosmo> stdin
[11:00] <kkosmo> you know how to do taht
[11:00] <andreasw> stdin: tell me why they changed the password dialog in kde so it displayes solid dots
[11:00] <kkosmo> that
[11:00] <andreasw> stdin: usability seems to me no reason
[11:00] <fuel> hi i installed all the development packages for kde..........however kdehome and kdeprefix are not set
[11:00] <fuel> any ideas how to rectify it ?
[11:01] <stdin> kkosmo: you have a couple choices, you can either make a "link to application" on the desktop with that as the command, or you can make a script with that line in it, then just double click it
[11:02] <kkosmo> ok
[11:02] <stdin> andreasw: I have no clue, ask in #kubuntu-devel (or for feisty #ubuntu+ )
[11:03] <Tumppi-`> umm I'm having a slight problem with my audio card
[11:03] <Tumppi-`> when I reboot my computer, I can either hear music payed by amarok, or sounds coming from embedded internet videos, but not both :/
[11:03] <Tumppi-`> any idea what could be the problem?
[11:04] <andreasw> stdin: I will do so
[11:04] <norm_> i'm sorry tumppi i don't ... maybe someone else in the room can help ya
[11:05] <Tumppi-`> I have two soundcards, integrated soundmax and a soundblaster live 24-bit
[11:05] <Tumppi-`> can kubuntu handle both well
[11:05] <Tumppi-`> ?*
[11:05] <norm_> perhaps, one is handling one, and the other the other
[11:06] <norm_> i know my subwoofer has two imputs, i would try putting an audio out cable out of both cards and see if you can hear both
[11:06] <norm_> or, if your subwoofer or speakers do not, then
[11:06] <norm_> i would try to see, if you can hear one out of one, and the other out of the other
[11:07] <norm_> but that's a noob's suggestion
[11:07] <norm_> the other alternative is to remove the soundblaster or disable the onboard sound from the bios
[11:07] <Tumppi-`> actually I should've started by doing just that =)
[11:07] <norm_> just to eliminate that possibility
[11:07] <Tumppi-`> brb
[11:08] <Tumppi-`> its just that I usually use headphones on the intergrated one, and 5.1 speaker son the soundblaster
[11:08] <Tumppi-`> All I would do in windows is change the output
[11:08] <norm_> well the alternative to THAT is to find a mixing board
[11:09] <norm_> and mix the sounds
[11:09] <norm_> but that's a large cost involved, mixing boards are not really that cheap
[11:09] <norm_> especially one that will segregate the sound
[11:10] <d0dge> Ok I really need help right now :D, I '/etc/init.d/kdm stop', then installed nvidia drivers and rebooted, kdm is still running but I can't get to KDE anymore.
[11:10] <d0dge> It's like no X server running. But it says it's running.
[11:11] <norm_> have you tried startx?
[11:11] <Tumppi-`> well its seems that nothing is currently playing the internet video-sounds, since soundblaster outputs nothing, and soundmax plays amarok music
[11:11] <d0dge> norm_: I'll try that now, thanks
[11:11] <norm_> hmmmm
[11:12] <Tumppi-`> should I just try removing the soundmax from the bios then? is it easy? I dont remember seeing that option in my bios :/
[11:12] <d0dge> norm_: It gives me fatal server error.
[11:12] <norm_> well depending on the motherboard you use, it usually is
[11:12] <d0dge> Can I use backup settings somehow?
[11:12] <norm_> i'm trying to remember the command to start kde
[11:13] <norm_> it will usually say "onboard sound"  tumppi
[11:13] <norm_> then you just disable it, and then reboot
[11:13] <norm_> like i said, it's usually pretty simple
[11:13] <norm_> as far as dodge, i'm not sure how to fix your issue
[11:13] <d0dge> How can I use backup conf file? I found them at /etc/X11/
[11:13] <stdin> d0dge: you can use the backup, or create a new one, but you may want to copy /var/log/Xorg.0.log so you can examine it later
[11:14] <norm_> thank you stdin, i wasn't sure i could even come close to fielding that one
[11:14] <Tumppi-`> cp /etc/X11/"backup conf" /etc/X11/xorg.conf would it  be like that?
[11:14] <d0dge> stdin: Ok but how to use them?
[11:14] <stdin> heh, I've had experience with X errors before :P
[11:15] <norm_> lol so have i, cept i just reinstall lol
[11:15] <norm_> <--- lazy
[11:15] <stdin> d0dge: ok, so 1st you want to copy the log, so you can view it later "cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log ~/Xorg.0.log
[11:16] <Tumppi-`> I too had x-errors after installing the nvidia drivers, just couple of days ago
[11:16] <d0dge> ok I copied
[11:17] <stdin> d0dge: then you want to restore the xorg.conf file, if you have a backup you can just do "cd /etc/X11/" then "mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.broken" then "mv xorg.conf.(backup_file) xorg.conf"
[11:17] <gabrieldain> Hi, I got myself into a very stupid problem. I messes up CUPS' configuration, an now it won't run, and I can't reinstall (missing, obsolete or only available from another source). Is there a way to go back to the default setting without going through the wizard (because it won't even start up).
[11:17] <stdin> d0dge: then restart KDM, and you should be able to login again
[11:18] <Jucato> gabrieldain: you tried localhost:631?
[11:18] <gabrieldain> Jucato, one sec
[11:18] <gabrieldain> Jucato, unable to connect, cups is down
[11:19] <Jucato> is cupsd running
[11:19] <Jucato> ?
[11:19] <Jucato> sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys start
[11:20] <gabrieldain> Jucato, apparently starting
[11:20] <gabrieldain> Jucato, looks stalled
[11:20] <gabrieldain> Jucato, oh, it wasn't
[11:21] <gabrieldain> Jucato, ok, I can't configure from the System Settings window, but I can enter localhost:631. Any way of reversing my errors without having to do it one-by-one?
[11:21] <Jucato> that I wouldn't know... :(
[11:22] <Jucato> basically, the KDEPrint module in System Settings is a KDE frontend to the cups web interface in localhost:631
[11:22] <norm_> how'd it go tumppi?
[11:23] <norm_> i really need to get a copy of Kubuntu
[11:23] <norm_> i don't even run it
[11:23] <Tumppi-`> lets see, I disabled some "Onboard AC97 Audio DEVICE" =P
[11:24] <danny> kkosmo: hello , i put you in my blog is it ok?
[11:24] <kkosmo> ok
[11:24] <Tumppi-`> um now that I've possibly disabled the soundmax soundcard, would I have to enable the soundblaster somehow?
[11:24] <danny> :) its at http://jolly-penguin.blogspot.com/
[11:25] <norm_> that's the soundmax tumppi
[11:25] <norm_> you did well
[11:25] <kkosmo> ok =[
[11:25] <kkosmo> =]
[11:25] <norm_> soundmax is TECHNICALLY an AC97 soundcard
[11:26] <Tumppi-`> Ill see if I can hear anything via the soundblaster now
[11:27] <Tumppi-`> so far so good, at least amarok plays through soundblaster already
[11:28] <Tumppi-`> everything seems to work now =)
[11:28] <Tumppi-`> internetvideos also play through soundblaster
[11:28] <norm_> good deal :D
[11:28] <Tumppi-`> thanks for the help, norm_ =)
[11:28] <norm_> anytime dude
[11:28] <norm_> glad it's fixed man
[11:29] <d0dge> stdin: Thanks for help!
[11:30] <stdin> d0dge: no problem, when you look at the log file, you want to look at lines starting with "(EE)" those are errors :)
[11:30] <d0dge> Alright
[11:33] <d0dge> stdin: Btw, does 'app-defaults' in etc/X11 mean the default settings?
[11:34] <stdin> d0dge: yeah, they are some defaults for some X apps, like xterm
[11:39] <waylandbill> is there a way on the CLI to query the files a package installs?
[11:40] <stdin> apt-file does that
[11:40] <stdin> apt-file show package
[11:40] <Jucato> apt-file isn't installed by default
[11:40] <stdin> (you need to install it)
[11:40] <Jucato> but "dpkg -c <.deb>" works too
[11:41] <ubuntu> can some one discuss/ help  "
[11:41] <ubuntu> Sound server fatal error:
[11:41] <ubuntu> cpu overload, aborting
[11:41] <Jucato> waylandbill: little Kubuntu/Konqueror trick.. use apt:/
[11:41] <stdin> it's not CLI tho
[11:41] <waylandbill> yeah.. in Konq... I know about that. :-D
[11:41] <Pensacola> katapult stopped being a calculator :s
[11:42] <Jucato> Pensacola: Alt+Space, Ctrl+C, Configure Katapult, Catalogs
[11:42] <Pensacola> ok thx
[11:42] <Pensacola> that fixed it
[11:43] <Pensacola> you guys rock
[11:43] <dannybuntu> Hello jucato
[11:43] <Jucato> hello dannybuntu
[11:44] <dave> anyone here use ffmpeg to do avi -> dvd conversions? need help
[11:44] <dannybuntu> :) which command do you do to make the fonts red?
[11:45] <Jucato> dannybuntu: it's automatic, when somebody mentions your nick in the  text
[11:45] <Jucato> only you will be able to see it
[11:45] <stdin> dannybuntu: red
[11:45] <stdin> not red :P
[11:45] <dannybuntu> :)
[11:45] <Vluid> hello. does anyone know how to change the query language in kdict? i want to use german.
[11:47] <dave> anyone help in converting an AVI to DVD format??
[11:49] <Vluid> dave: tovid or qdvdauthor. second is quite buggy, but when it works its great.
 do they decode AVI files and is tovid in dapper repositories?
[11:51] <banjo> goodmorning all
[11:51] <stdin> !info tovid dapper
[11:51] <ubotu> Package tovid does not exist in dapper
[11:51] <banjo> need some help with psp
 Yes just had a check Grrr any other ideas?
[11:52] <dannybuntu> !info filelight dapper
[11:52] <ubotu> filelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99beta6-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 317 kB, installed size 856 kB
[11:52] <dannybuntu> cool
[11:52] <Vluid> dave: tovid isnt actually a "program", it is a script. you can easily install it from their page http://tovid.berlios.de/en/
 do u mean p2p?
 Oh so what's do??
[11:53] <stdin> dave: there is also kmediafactory
[11:53] <stdin> !info kmediafactory dapper
[11:53] <ubotu> kmediafactory: template based DVD authoring tool for KDE.. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2330 kB, installed size 5944 kB
 just going there now :)
[11:54] <Vluid> dave: but i would use qdvdauthor. you can make more sophisticated menus with it
[11:55] <stdin> there is also devede
[11:55] <stdin> !devede
[11:55] <ubotu> devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB
[11:56] <stdin> pick and choose what works for you :)
[11:57] <JOSF> I have problems with an update of libcairo2. How do I recert to my last installed version ?
 I'm after a "simple" convert AVI file to dvd compatible format then burn with K3b, not really after menus etc
[12:01] <bartist> g'day mates
[12:01] <Vluid> dave: qdvdauthor, devede, tovid, ... ...
[12:01] <Vluid> dave: install and try them
[12:01] <bartist> what is the comand to check what is my kernel version
[12:01] <bartist> ?
[12:02] <Vluid> but again does anyone know how to chnge the query language in kdict to german.
[12:02] <chavo> bartist, uname -r
[12:03] <bartist> chavo it says 2.6.17-10-generic
[12:03] <bartist> i want to know if its 386 or 686
[12:03] <dave> do these use ffmpeg or memcode? got ffmpeg but it doesn't know about AVI files and i don't know why!!!
[12:03] <Vluid> chavo: uname -a
[12:04] <stdin> !generic | bartist
[12:04] <Vluid> dave: ?
[12:04] <ubotu> bartist: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[12:04] <chavo> -a is all, -r is kernel version
[12:05] <bartist> Linux bartist-laptop 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686
[12:06] <bartist> i installed 686
[12:06] <bartist> how can it be it also mention smp?
[12:06] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[12:06] <chavo> i think all kernels do smp now
[12:06] <stdin> bartist: the -generic kernel is for all, and it also has smp built in
[12:07] <bartist> ok i am rending the article from the bot stdin
[12:07] <Vluid> bartist: generic!
[12:07] <bartist> i am reading sorry..
[12:10] <Vluid> bartist: np
[12:10] <startswithz> I can't get kde to install the codecs necessary to allow me to watch AVI movies
[12:10] <bartist> well guys the last days i've been bothering you about my sound problems
[12:10] <Jucato> !libxine-extracodecs | startswithz
[12:10] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[12:11] <ForgeAus> jucato which actual codecs are they?
[12:11] <bartist> i've discovered that my Intel AC97 sound card with realtek chipset is not supported by edgy
[12:11] <ForgeAus> avi what else?
[12:11] <startswithz> well I can see the libxine codecs in adept installer but they are no selectable
[12:11] <bartist> however it worked with dapper
[12:11] <bartist> so I am going to install dapper
[12:11] <Jucato> startswithz: you need to enable multiverse
[12:12] <Jucato> !multiverse | startswithz
[12:12] <ubotu> startswithz: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:12] <Jucato> ForgeAus: sudo apt-cache show libxine-extracodecs: "This packages just contains the following plugins for xine:* xineplug_decode_faad.so * xineplug_decode_ff.so * xineplug_decode_mad.so
[12:12] <bartist> !universe | bartist
[12:12] <ubotu> bartist: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:12] <startswithz> alright cool
[12:12] <startswithz> thanks guys I just really needed that link
[12:14] <Alarm> what is getty ?
[12:14] <JOSF> I have problems with an update of libcairo2. How do I recert to my last installed version ?
[12:15] <stdin> Alarm: it's what allows you to login to a console
[12:15] <Alarm> okie . thanks
[12:16] <Jucato> JOSF: first, "apt-cache policy libcairo2" to list the available versions. take note of the version number (Edgy's default is 1.2.4-1ubuntu2). then try "sudo apt-get install libcairo=1.2.4-1ubuntu2"
[12:16] <JOSF> Jucato: Thanks a lot!
[12:16] <translation>  Can some one help regarding sound server?
[12:16] <Alarm>  does aio/1 and aio/2 have to do with sound ?
 i've found that there are 2 type of underlaying programs that do the decoding/encoding they are ffmpeg and mencode to see what i mean
[12:21] <Alarm> i got a problem with kde. when i close the application , the sound still continues to plays and when i open the application again no picture is displayed. and dont manage to turn of the sound again
[12:22] <JOSF> Jucato: http://rafb.net/p/lwylFX76.html
[12:22] <Alarm> what proccess could i try to kill ?
[12:23] <Jucato> heh this should be a lesson to you to be very careful in adding non-standard repositories...
[12:24] <Jucato> JOSF: the last one in the list is Ubuntu's
[12:24] <JOSF> Yes, but it says it can't find it
[12:24] <JOSF> E: Version 1.2.4-1ubuntu2 for libcairo could not be found.
[12:25] <startswithz> wht can't I get the xine extra plug ins?
[12:25] <stdin> JOSF: "1.2.4-1ubuntu2 0" not "1.2.4-1ubuntu2"
[12:25] <JOSF> oh, ok
[12:25] <startswithz> the icon is not selectable in adept installer
[12:25] <stdin> opps, no I was wrong actually
[12:26] <stdin> JOSF: you could download the deb and install manually
[12:26] <JOSF> stdin: will try, since this: sudo apt-get install "libcairo=1.2.4-1ubuntu2 0" gives an "not found" error as well
[12:28] <Jucato> JOSF: don't include the last 0
[12:28] <stdin> JOSF: are you sure it's "libcairo" not "libcairo2" ?
[12:29] <Jucato> er.. my bad.. the command was wrong :P
[12:29] <Jucato> libcairo2...
[12:29] <Jucato> hehe
[12:30] <JOSF> I used yours Jucato. There was an error: It is sudo apt-get install libcairo2=1.2.4-1ubuntu2 and not sudo apt-get install libcairo=1.2.4-1ubuntu2 ;-)
[12:30] <Jucato> yeah. my bad...
[12:30] <JOSF> oh, yes, ok, anyway, it worked :-)
[12:33] <Valmarko> ...
[12:36] <dopez> hello
[12:37] <dopez> since i've build in a second disc with 2 partitions, only the second partition appears on the desktop as an icon, how do i remove it and why is only the second icon visible ?
[12:37] <Valmarko> hello
[12:37] <dopez> (it's not just in the Desktop directory)
[12:43] <Valmarko> !ext3
[12:43] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[12:44] <Valmarko> valmarko
[12:47] <dvayanu> hi
[12:48] <dvayanu> can someone give a helpful hint how to run flash on a x86_64?
[12:48] <dvayanu> within a 64 bit firefox
[12:49] <stdin> maybe with gnash, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash <<-- Look at the AMD64 section
[12:50] <dvayanu> thx
[12:51] <Ayabara> how can I turn off the system beep in kubuntu without deactivating the internal speaker?
[12:51] <ubuntu> witam wszyskich
[12:51] <stdin> !pl
[12:51] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:52] <ubuntu> dzieki
[01:03] <lotusleaf> do the kubuntu.org repos have a specific changelog location (url?)?
[01:04] <Jucato> !changelogs
[01:04] <ubotu> changelogs for Ubuntu packages can be found on http://changelogs.ubuntu.com
[01:04] <[StingRay] > Hi, stdin :)
[01:05] <lotusleaf> Jucato: right, thanks, but sometimes there are updated packages @ kubuntu.org repo which aren't @ ubuntu repo
[01:05] <lotusleaf> I'll check though and see, thanks ;)
[01:05] <stdin> hay [StingRay]  :)
[01:05] <Jucato> lotusleaf: ah... you have to ask Riddell about that...
[01:05] <lotusleaf> Jucato: gotcha, thx ;)
[01:07] <[StingRay] > stdin, I made apt-get update and I haven't had any crash problems with wine and tightvnc all day :)
[01:08] <stdin> [StingRay] : cool, lets just hope it stays like that :)
[01:09] <[StingRay] > The stupid part with xmodmap remains however. If i use xmodmap .../xmodmap/xmodmap.us on :0 all is fine (I have the correspongin characters on all keystrokes), however if I do it on a tighvnc session every symbol is 3 positions on the left?
[01:09] <[StingRay] > I have to remake the xmodmap.us and xmodmap.bg by hand,stdin...
[01:10] <stdin> ouch :P
[01:11] <Riddell> lotusleaf: they don't
[01:11] <lotusleaf> Riddell: darn, thx =)
[01:11] <[StingRay] > stdin, very strange...however I am happy that this can be fixed somehow :)
[01:11] <stdin> yeah, me too :)
[01:12] <Ash-Fox> Where does one configure the default value of /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_time on bootup?
[01:13] <meduxa>  <meduxa> hi all: take a look at the apps included in meduxa (although it is a document in spanish you the names of those apps are the original ones)
[01:13] <meduxa> [12:12]  <meduxa> http://www.grupocpd.com/archivos_documentos/info_meduxa/meduxa_project_released/PloneArticle_view
[01:14] <meduxa> they are on two .pdf attachment
[01:14] <stdin> Ash-Fox: maybe add something like this to /etc/rc.local "echo [value]  > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_time"
[01:15] <Ash-Fox> stdin, there was a configuration file in the past todo set this specific option in /etc, but I can't remember what it was.
[01:15] <Riddell> meduxa: can I add that to Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter?
[01:16] <Ash-Fox> I'd rather use the 'proper' method
[01:16] <meduxa> yes
[01:16] <meduxa> do you want me to do something?
[01:16] <mika__> hey i have a question about KDE teme installation can anyone help me?
[01:17] <mika__> theme
[01:17] <meduxa> maybe give you the list in english would be better right?
[01:18] <stdin> Ash-Fox: it might be /etc/sysctl.conf
[01:18] <stdin> !theme
[01:18] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:18] <Ash-Fox> stdin, ah, thankyou! That's the config :P
[01:18] <stdin> !changethemes
[01:18] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[01:18] <mika__> its cool i know where to get them but i dont know how to install them, i have looked at a couple of forums and followed their advice but its still not working for me
[01:18] <stdin> Ash-Fox: heh, I couldn't remember either, had to look around /etc :P
[01:19] <stdin> mika__: look at the 2nd line from ubotu
[01:19] <mika__> yeah i am gonna check that out
[01:19] <Ash-Fox> stdin, yeah, I had been looking in /etc and for some reason it just didn't stand out :P
[01:20] <Ash-Fox> Anyway.. net.ipv4.tcp_keepalive_time was the value if I recall from memory
[01:20] <Jucato> mika__: check out that last link (CustomizeKubuntu)
[01:20] <meduxa> Riddell: do you want the list in english?
[01:21] <mika__> its come up with that the page dosent exist yet :(
[01:22] <Riddell> meduxa: I don't think it's too important, the app names are the same :)
[01:22] <meduxa> ok
[01:23] <Jucato> mika__: let me check
[01:23] <Jucato> mika__: it exists. are you sure you got it right? (just click on it) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[01:23] <stdin> ahh, it's the "." at the end of the link
[01:23] <Jucato> bah silly irc clients :P
[01:24] <Alarm> the acrobat reader packages , is acrobat , or acroread ?
[01:24] <mika__> curses!!  thanks
[01:25] <Jucato> !changethemes
[01:25] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[01:25] <Jucato> that's better...
[01:25] <Jucato> Alarm: KPDF :D
[01:25] <Alarm> !acrobat
[01:25] <Jucato> j/k... it's acroread, afaik
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acrobat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <Jucato> !acroread
[01:25] <ubotu> acroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.8-0.0.ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 22368 kB, installed size 54692 kB (Only available for i386)
[01:25] <Alarm> Jucato,  it doesnt work fine with some pdfs , thats the one i got. thats why i want to install acrobat reader
[01:26] <Alarm> so , acroreader is the package
[01:26] <Alarm> thanks
[01:26] <Jucato> acroread, not acroreader
[01:26] <Alarm> yes acroread :)
[01:26] <Alarm> and acrobat thats what ?
[01:26] <ForgeAus> grr acrobat :(
[01:26] <ForgeAus> bloatware from adobe
[01:27] <Alarm> okie dokie. thanks
[01:27] <ForgeAus> is there a better alternative? does something like evince do the same job?
[01:28] <Jucato> what kind of PDF can't KPDF read?
[01:28] <ForgeAus> kpdf? do I have that?
[01:28] <ForgeAus> (ie is installed in Kubuntu by default?)
[01:29] <stdin> don't think it's default, no
[01:29] <ForgeAus> hehe sounds like it should be added tho :) I like the idea of a kpdf or k ps/eps/pdf multiformat viewer
[01:29] <Jucato> it is installed by default
[01:29] <Jucato> K Menu -> Graphics
[01:30] <stdin> ok, so it is then :P
[01:30] <Jucato> of course, it is :)
[01:30] <ForgeAus> yup kewl :)
[01:30] <Jucato> just not in the place you expect it to be :P
[01:31] <stdin> wouldn't it be better placed in Utilities ?
[01:31] <ForgeAus> ahh kpdf does ps as well!
[01:31] <ForgeAus> awesome
[01:31] <ForgeAus> ie no need for adobe at all that I can see
[01:32] <Jucato> ForgeAus: yes it does. or if you want a standalone PS reader, there's KGhostView
[01:32] <ForgeAus> jucato is there any advantage to that over kpdf?
[01:32] <ForgeAus> (mostly thinking of printing I guess)
[01:33] <Jucato> ForgeAus: I encountered one (just one) PDF that would make kpdf crash, but opened properly in kghostview...
[01:33] <Jucato> that's the only advantage I could see
[01:33] <ForgeAus> is kile in any way related to these kinda formats?
[01:34] <Jucato> kile is for latex afaik
[01:34] <ForgeAus> yeah latex (ie TeX) but isn't dvi/ps/eps/pdf somehow related to TeX/bibtex etc?
[01:35] <Jucato> not really sure
[01:35] <ForgeAus> first of all Tex is typesetting for things like non-standard characters, equations, etc? right?...
[01:36] <Jucato> I'm not into kinky stuff :P
[01:36] <ForgeAus> rofl well I"m new to it so I was just trying to get an overall picture...
[01:36] <ForgeAus> oh well
[01:36] <ForgeAus> thanx aynway
[01:37] <d0dge> Can't get my KDE running anymore >.<
[01:37] <d0dge> after installing Nvidia drivers
[01:38] <ForgeAus> I thought Nvidia were better for linux than ATI (like mine)
[01:40] <tn-> stdin ?
[01:41] <d0dge> ForgeAus: Hmm, how can I enable KDE?
[01:41] <ForgeAus> enable?... um can you get into another desktop like gnome?
[01:41] <d0dge> ForgeAus: I've tried /etc/init.d/kdm start / reload / restart
[01:41] <ForgeAus> and download kubuntu desktop or kde-core
[01:41] <stdin> tn-: yes?
[01:41] <ForgeAus> ???
[01:42] <Jucato> d0dge: how did you install the nvidia driver?
[01:42] <d0dge> Jucato: Stopped X server and installed
[01:42] <ForgeAus> if oyu can get to a terminal screen/prompt you can probably: sudo dpkg install <insert either of the two packages kde-core or kubuntu-desktop here> ... I think that would work
[01:42] <tn-> stdin: to you remember my problems about intel-hda sound driver ?
[01:42] <Jucato> d0dge: nvidia-glx?
[01:43] <tn-> I have new information :-/
[01:43] <stdin> tn-: got it to work yet?
[01:43] <tn-> as I left the computer shut down for a week-end, sound came back alone
[01:44] <tn-> but it is still fading away with time !
[01:44] <stdin> tn-: strange, that sounds like a hardware problem for sure
[01:44] <tn-> I don't know
[01:44] <tn-> I'm working on embedded linux distros I'm building
[01:44] <ForgeAus> grrr um how to uninstall mzscheme?
[01:45] <tn-> and I never saw that kind of behavior
[01:45] <ForgeAus> its got a service it runs which possibly may have been deleted but it messes with my apt-get
[01:45] <stdin> tn-: have you tried with another OS (win), and see if it still happens ?
[01:45] <tn-> couldn't find the time to :(
[01:45] <tn-> too much work by now
[01:46] <tn-> I'll try to let my boss touch the computer with is ugly w2k :)
[01:46] <sadistic_kitten> uh hi, I don't know exactly what happened, but all my personal settings just got messed up and it just reverted to default
[01:46] <tn-> +h
[01:46] <stdin> it sounds like one of the connections on the mb aren't right
[01:46] <sadistic_kitten> is there any way to do something like a system restore?
[01:46] <sadistic_kitten> I remember doing it before, but I can't remember how
[01:46] <tn-> I don't know : it's a closed box
[01:47] <kkosmo> hi somone
[01:47] <tn-> we didn't even opened it
[01:47] <kkosmo> have some program to kde that record videos from the desktop
[01:47] <kkosmo> ?
[01:47] <stdin> tn-: it could be something as simple as a component isn't soldered correctly
[01:48] <tn-> well sound wouldn't even work if it was so, no ?
[01:48] <stdin> kkosmo: recordmydesktop in the repos or "xvidcap" (not in the repso)
[01:48] <tn-> we're designing our own ARM board and if a component is not well soldered, it simply don't work
[01:49] <tn-> so I think it would be the same on an intel mobo
[01:49] <kkosmo> stdin what the respoties of this software
[01:49] <stdin> tn-: no it would work, but if the solder was loose or something, it may do what you're describing
[01:49] <tn-> well maybe
[01:49] <tn-> I'll see with our electronicians :)
[01:50] <tn-> I'll tell you more later
[01:50] <tn-> thanks
[01:50] <tn-> see you later
[01:50] <stdin> kkosmo: look here http://popey.com/Creating_Screencasts
[01:50] <sadistic_kitten> stdin, you wanna help me quickly if it's not too much trouble?
[01:51] <stdin> sadistic_kitten: depends on the problem
[01:51] <kkosmo> stdin
[01:51] <sadistic_kitten> do you know how to do something like a system restore?
[01:51] <kkosmo> its not take a lot of cpu
[01:51] <kkosmo> ?
[01:51] <kkosmo> i have not best computer
[01:51] <stdin> kkosmo: recordmydesktop is better then
[01:51] <kkosmo> where i can get it
[01:52] <stdin> sadistic_kitten: unless you backed-up your ~/.kde directory, no
[01:52] <stdin> !recordmydesktop
[01:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recordmydesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:52] <stdin> hmm, 1 sec
[01:52] <kkosmo> right
[01:53] <stdin> ok, so it's in the fiesty repos, but not the edgy ones :P
[01:53] <kkosmo> damn
[01:54] <sadistic_kitten> argh that sucks so much, I remember doing it on a linux box, and I'm pretty sure it was kubuntu (although it was possible SuSE)
[01:55] <stdin> kkosmo: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294605
[01:55] <kkosmo> man its for dappar
[01:55] <kkosmo> ooo
[01:55] <stdin> sadistic_kitten: afaik there is no system restore feature unless you install one
[01:55] <kkosmo> down
[01:55] <sadistic_kitten> bah
[01:56] <sadistic_kitten> kk thanx anyway
[01:56] <stdin> everyone learns to backup sooner or later :)
[02:00] <kkosmo> stdin:
[02:00] <kkosmo> ?
[02:00] <kkosmo> you can give me the respoties
[02:00] <kkosmo> i cant get into the fourm
[02:00] <kkosmo> i dont register
[02:03] <tobias_> :)
[02:04] <tobias_> any1 else here having trouble downloading the supergamer2 iso from torrent?
[02:04] <markus_> hi... why can't I see more than the home and media folder in kde konqueror when I select the tab "rootfolder"? The same think, when I save a file in firefox or want to search for a program to open with... I am not able to enter the folder /usr/bin for example
[02:05] <Riddell> meduxa: feel free to join us in #kubuntu-devel to hang out with the developers
[02:07] <Jucato> !hidden | markus_
[02:07] <ubotu> markus_: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[02:07] <markus_> ah, thx :)
[02:08] <Jucato> markus_: you are still able to enter those. either show hidden files or enter the direct path
[02:08] <markus_> yes, but it won't work with the file save dialog from firefox, would it?
[02:08] <Jucato> it would
[02:09] <Jucato> you can right-click -> Show Hidden Files in Firefox as well (iirc)
[02:11] <markus_> oh okay, Jucato. it works. thanks a lot :-)
[02:11] <sahin_h> Hi, I just tried Kubuntu Herd-2. I realized kcontrol acting really weird.
[02:11] <sahin_h> kcontrol contains only two empty items
[02:12] <stdin_> for feisty issues #ubuntu+1
[02:12] <sahin_h> Ok. Thanks.
[02:18] <Alarm> when opening the proccess table i dont see any process listed and all i can see is at the bottom: 88888Processes, Memory: 8888888 , kb used: 888888  Swap: 888888 . also trying to run ps -x doesnt show any resutls at all. it doesnt respont actually
[02:19] <Alarm> i had a problem with kdetv application and after closing the application that appeared .
[02:25] <tobias_> it would be so cool if all the games on linuxgames.com were added to repositories so I could install them with adept :D
[02:25] <tobias_> is there a gaming repository?
[02:26] <Newbster> hello
[02:27] <kkosmo> hi
[02:27] <Newbster> hi can you tell me how to delete a folder - i cant delete it
[02:28] <Newbster> its name is .trash-0 and its on another hard disk
[02:28] <stdin_> what error do you get?
[02:29] <Newbster> in konqueror its Access denied to /media/hdb/.Trash-0.
[02:29] <stdin_> what filesystem is it?
[02:29] <Newbster> stdin: someone told me that it can be deleted through the konsole - its ext3
[02:30] <stdin_> if it's ext3 then it would need to be deleted by the user that owns it, or by root
[02:30] <Newbster> stdin: but when i type ls it doesn't show the directory
[02:30] <Newbster> stdin: ummm.. i own it
[02:30] <Newbster> i guess...sort of
[02:31] <stdin_> dot (.name) files/directories are hidden
[02:31] <stdin_> ls -A will show it
[02:31] <Newbster> stdin: aight that did it - then?
[02:31] <stdin_> who owns it? root?
[02:31] <Newbster> yep
[02:32] <Newbster> stdin: forgive me coz im a newbster - how do i delete a hidden folder again as root?
[02:32] <stdin_> Newbster, use "sudo rmdir .Trash-0" if it's emply, or "sudo rm -r .Trash-0" if not
[02:33] <stdin_> Newbster, in Konqueror you can just do View -> Show hidden files
[02:33] <syfer83> d
[02:33] <Newbster> stdin: the hdd is making crunch crunch sounds
[02:34] <stdin_> it's probably because it's being accessed
[02:34] <Newbster> stdin: w00t it worked!
[02:34] <Newbster> stdin: thank you thank you thank you
[02:35] <stdin_> heh, no problem :)
[02:35] <Newbster> =]
[02:35] <syfer83> stop
[02:35] <syfer83> !stop
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:38] <Newbster> !kmobiletools
[02:38] <ubotu> kmobiletools: KDE application for controlling your mobile phone. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 128 kB, installed size 484 kB
[02:41] <Newbster> !df
[02:41] <ubotu> Graphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T
[02:41] <tobias_> I was wondering if the wine in adept is the latest, its called "0.9.9" while on the wine homepage it is called "0.9.29"
[02:41] <tobias_> ?
[02:42] <Newbster> !wine
[02:42] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:42] <stdin_> tobias_, it's not the latest, but it's the most stable on ubuntu
[02:42] <tobias_> aah
[02:42] <tobias_> cool
[02:42] <tobias_> stdin: does it work?
[02:43] <stdin_> depends what you mean by "work"
[02:43] <tobias_> hehe
[02:43] <tobias_> I want to play heroes 3
[02:43] <tobias_> or four
[02:43] <stdin_> have a look on the wine application database, on the wine website
[02:43] <tobias_> is it like i write "wine setup.exe" and it installs just like in evil xdows
[02:43] <drarem> can I disable the touchpad on my laptop, or at least decrease the sensitivity?  I'm using an external mouse
[02:43] <tobias_> ok
[02:44] <tobias_> thanx
[02:44] <stdin_> np
[02:45] <tobias_> Im gettin wine tralala, gonna waste my time.. :D
[02:48] <Newbster> tobias: you like fantasy turn based games? try battle for wesnoth
[02:50] <Newbster> tobias: some versions of Heroes might work
[02:50] <Newbster> tobias: here check this out
[02:50] <Newbster> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=394
[02:51] <ForgeAus> hmm heroes of might and magic uner wine... thats interesting
[02:51] <Newbster> havent played that though for ages
[02:52] <kkosmo> !crossover
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossover - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <icheyne> does anyone here use a Radeon 9250 or other 92** card?
[02:54] <kkosmo> hi somone can help me how i can
[02:54] <kkosmo> install ietab
[02:54] <kkosmo> in linux
[02:55] <stdin_> ietab?
[02:55] <kkosmo> extanison for firefox
[02:55] <dope> how do i access and edit the user list from the console?
[02:55] <stdin_> kkosmo: is that the one to open a internet explorer tab?
[02:56] <kkosmo> yes
[02:56] <stdin_> dope: depends what you want to do, to vesw users look at /etc/passwd, to add users user adduser
[02:57] <dope> i need to edit a password
[02:57] <stdin_> dope: for a user who isn't you?
[02:58] <tobias_> is it possible to make my main partition bigger?
[02:58] <dope> i'm logging in as root
[02:58] <dope> cause i forgot the pw to my account
[02:58] <tobias_> I got a biig partition, and I got a small main partition
[02:58] <alcopop> anyone know if GParted LiveCD is easy for a beginner to use for diskimage making ?
[02:58] <alcopop> i understand it uses dd
[02:58] <stdin_> dope: use "passwd username"
[02:58] <dope> alcopop: yea it's fairly simple
[02:58] <stdin_> kkosmo, why do you want it, IE is only for windows
[02:59] <tobias_> my small main partition only has 7 gigs so the best would be to merge my giant partition with my small default installation partition, but is it possible without deleting any files?
[02:59] <alcopop> cuz ppl were telling me 'dd' is hard for beginners to use
[02:59] <kkosmo> damn
[02:59] <kkosmo> windows dont work on my computer
[02:59] <kkosmo> and
[02:59] <kkosmo> my brother
[02:59] <dope> stdin_: i don't quite understand
[02:59] <kkosmo> want to enter to site that soppurted only in windows
[02:59] <stdin_> dope: you are logged in as root?
[02:59] <dope> correct
[02:59] <dope> and i'm in that file
[02:59] <dope> and i see my username
[03:00] <tobias_> what is kubuntus version of pqmagic?
[03:00] <stdin_> kkosmo: complain to the website, or you can try installing IE in wine
[03:00] <kkosmo> i dont have time to complain to the website
[03:00] <stdin_> dope: to set a password, you don't use that file
[03:00] <tobias_> !partition
[03:00] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:00] <dope> oh
[03:01] <stdin_> dope: just use the cammand "passwd [username] "
[03:01] <dope> well what file do i use then?
[03:01] <stdin_> dope, you don't use any file
[03:01] <dope> ah nice
[03:01] <dope> thx
[03:01] <stdin_> np
[03:01] <dope> i just got a little confused
[03:02] <stdin_> the /etc/passwd files stores usernames, not passwords (anymore)
[03:03] <tobias_> wow
[03:03] <tobias_> if I use qparted and resize my extended partition, will it affect my linux-swap or my ext3 partition inside that extended partition?
[03:04] <tobias_> !qparted
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <tobias_> !qtparted
[03:04] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB
[03:04] <tobias_> dxmn
[03:05] <stdin_> reside the logical partitions, if you change the extended one, you could damage the partitions inside it
[03:05] <stdin_> *resize
[03:05] <tobias_> but the logical partitions doesnt have the option to rezise
[03:05] <tobias_> except the swap partiton
[03:05] <tobias_> but thats only one gig
[03:06] <tobias_> I want my giant 30 gig to be 20 and to put that extra space in my dev/hda1
[03:06] <tobias_> so I can play games
[03:06] <tobias_> :)
[03:06] <kkosmo> stdin
[03:06] <kkosmo> but
[03:06] <kkosmo> in wine
[03:06] <stdin_> try gparted, and make sure you arent using the disk
[03:06] <kkosmo> why the internet explorer
[03:06] <kkosmo> jumping
[03:06] <tobias_> aha
[03:07] <kkosmo> flickring
[03:07] <kkosmo> ?
[03:07] <kkosmo> i can fix it
[03:07] <tobias_> I must unmount it first then, will resizing it delete the data on it, or is it trouble free like partitionmagic?
[03:07] <stdin_> kkosmo: I don't know, I don't use wine
[03:07] <kkosmo> ok
[03:07] <stdin_> kkosmo: maybe ask in #winehq
[03:07] <Newbster> kkosmo: i think it is universal it happens to me too when i tried ies4linux
[03:07] <tobias_> wow
[03:07] <tobias_> there is a #winehq
[03:07] <tobias_> nice
[03:08] <tobias_> XD
[03:08] <kkosmo> i can fix it
[03:08] <stdin_> tobias_, if you only have 1 disk, and you are booted from it, use a live CD to repartition
[03:08] <kkosmo> newbster
[03:08] <kkosmo> ?
[03:08] <tobias_> aha
[03:08] <Newbster> kkosmo: yes?
[03:08] <tobias_> thanx stdin
[03:08] <kkosmo> how
[03:08] <kkosmo> ?
[03:08] <stdin_> tobias_: no problem :)
[03:08] <tobias_> now to find my ubuntu cd ;)
[03:08] <tobias_> kubuntu even
[03:09] <Newbster> kkosmo: sorry man, i dont know
[03:09] <stdin_> there is a gparted cd too :)
[03:09] <tobias_> I probably borrowed it to some lucky people
[03:09] <Newbster> kkosmo: theres not much news in ies4linux website either
[03:09] <os2mac> is there anyone here from "the company"
[03:12] <os2mac> I would REALLY like to be able to use my wireless nick in the upcoming version of Kubuntu without having to use an additional software. I am not a programmer. I am willing however to install the current (or additional test builds) on my computer to allow for feedback of trouble shooting
[03:12] <os2mac> I have a Broadcom NIC and BCM43xx-fw doesn't install correctly on my machine when I use the current herd CD.
[03:13] <vge> os2mac: welcome to i hate broadcom club
[03:13] <os2mac> I have gone beyond that... I am willing to do what ever it takes to make it happen.
[03:13] <os2mac> including installing software that I know doesn't work to allow for a development testing platform.
[03:14] <Newbster> like windows
[03:14] <os2mac> I am a UNIX admin. I need to use some form of *NIX at home because it's frustrating to me to switch back and forth from work to home. but I am NOT a programmer.
[03:15] <Newbster> !kilpper
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kilpper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <Newbster> !klipper
[03:15] <os2mac> !klipper
[03:15] <ubotu> klipper: clipboard utility for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 271 kB, installed size 940 kB
[03:15] <tek_> hey
[03:15] <Newbster> thanks
[03:17] <Newbster> !krfb
[03:17] <ubotu> krfb: Desktop Sharing for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 921 kB, installed size 1644 kB
[03:18] <Newbster> wow this exclamation point thing is amazing
[03:18] <Newbster> !kwin
[03:18] <ubotu> kwin: the KDE window manager. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 997 kB, installed size 3284 kB
[03:19] <Newbster> hmmm what if i try this
[03:19] <Newbster> !windows
[03:19] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[03:19] <Newbster> loool
[03:20] <Newbster> !billgates
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about billgates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <stdin_> !botabuse
[03:20] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:20] <Newbster> oops ok sorry
[03:21] <stdin_> just keeps the channel open for support requests :)
[03:21] <Newbster> but you have to admit ubotu does a pretty fine job compared to the faqs at ubuntu
[03:22] <Newbster> fast reliable information
[03:29] <chih> hi
[03:30] <tibbar> !smb tibbar
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb tibbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <tibbar> !sambazasmb tibbar
[03:31] <stdin> !samba | tibbar
[03:31] <ubotu> tibbar: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:31] <tibbar> thanks
[03:31] <stdin> np :)
[03:32] <shanky> good afternoon
[03:32] <tobias_> does wine 0.9.29 work with kubuntu?
[03:32] <tobias_> wine 0.9.9 is crap
[03:34] <kkosmo> damn
[03:34] <kkosmo> i faild
[03:34] <kkosmo> to install internet explorer
[03:34] <kkosmo> its too bad
[03:34] <Newbster> what version kkosmo?
[03:35] <kkosmo> not in wine
[03:35] <tobias_> check out the winehq page for compability issues with internet explorer, I remember seeing it listed there which version works
[03:35] <kkosmo> in les4linx
[03:35] <kkosmo> what i need to install 6
[03:35] <kkosmo> or 5
[03:35] <kkosmo> ?
[03:35] <tobias_> it says on the winehq page I guess
[03:36] <kkosmo> damn my brother
[03:36] <tobias_> ooh
[03:36] <kkosmo> wait to that
[03:36] <kraut> moin
[03:37] <Newbster> kkosmo: i will try too after i install swiftfox plug inx
[03:37] <Newbster> s
[03:37] <kkosmo> what
[03:37] <kkosmo> swiftfox
[03:37] <kkosmo> ?
[03:37] <Newbster> !swiftfox
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <tobias_> !wine
[03:38] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:38] <kkosmo> !recordmydesktop
[03:38] <Newbster> er...ok its a firefox which is more customized for your processor
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recordmydesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <kkosmo> ok
[03:38] <kkosmo> and he can run sites for internet explorer
[03:39] <kkosmo> shit
[03:39] <Newbster> well no
[03:39] <kkosmo> what i do now
[03:39] <Newbster> which site do you want to go to?
[03:39] <kkosmo> livegoal
[03:39] <kkosmo> its israli site
[03:40] <Newbster> lemme check
[03:40] <kkosmo> my brother
[03:40] <kkosmo> not
[03:40] <kkosmo> me
[03:41] <Newbster> what url?
[03:41] <kkosmo> www.livegoal.co.il
[03:41] <kkosmo> the site is work
[03:41] <kkosmo> but in side its need to show games
[03:41] <kkosmo> but it not
[03:41] <shanky> after edit /etc/hostname must I reboot?
[03:42] <shanky> I'm trying to update from dapper to edgy using update-manager
[03:42] <kkosmo> newbster
[03:42] <kkosmo> you do it
[03:42] <kkosmo> ?
[03:43] <Newbster> kkosmo: i cant read it
[03:43] <kkosmo> i know
[03:43] <kkosmo> but in side
[03:43] <shanky> I have a problem with gethostbyname so I have to change my hostname
[03:43] <kkosmo> you get a game scors
[03:43] <kkosmo> 0-0
[03:43] <kkosmo> 1-0
[03:43] <kkosmo> no right
[03:43] <Newbster> ok i will try for you i will install ies4linux
[03:43] <tobias_> oh btw
[03:44] <stuffid> hello...all...
[03:44] <tobias_> firefox can emulate internet exploder
[03:44] <tobias_> so that the site thinks ur using internet explorer any version u want
[03:44] <tony_> hello...having a problem...azureus was working fine...than it crashed for some reason and now everytime it starts up it immediately shuts down...I don't understand
[03:44] <TheGateKeeper> there is a firefox extension for that
[03:45] <tobias_> yupp
[03:45] <kkosmo> what the name
[03:45] <kkosmo> i try that
[03:45] <tobias_> kkosomo: i think its default in the program, let me check
[03:45] <tony_> can anyone help out or point to a place where I can find the answer...thanks so much
[03:46] <kkosmo> how much problems i have
[03:46] <kkosmo> damn
[03:46] <TheGateKeeper> kkosmo,  User Agent Switcher
[03:47] <TheGateKeeper> google for that
[03:47] <K-Ryan> !azureus | tony_
[03:47] <ubotu> tony_: azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[03:47] <K-Ryan> You can try there
[03:47] <tony_> i will thanks
[03:48] <K-Ryan> Otherwise a restart might do it
[03:48] <K-Ryan> I had a problem like that with a different program.
[03:48] <K-Ryan> Restarting fixed it
[03:48] <tobias_> kkosmo: actually its konqueror that comes with automatic "pretending to be any browser" function
[03:48] <shanky> any idea about the hostname?
[03:49] <tobias_> kkosmo: you just push the "tools" menu item and u will se it on the bottom
[03:49] <mikki> how do i view  a .daa file ?
[03:49] <tobias_> kkosmo: probably the addon for firefox will let u see more pages since firefox seems to read pages better sometimes
[03:50] <tobias_> kkosmo: I dont know about that one tho, but konqueror might work fine so try that first :)
[03:50] <kkosmo> i try
[03:50] <kkosmo> but its not work
[03:50] <kkosmo> shit
[03:50] <slestak> ive been having problems for +1 week wrt us repositories.  failed downloads, name resolution, all other apps are fine.  i switched one laptop to use ca repositories and all is well.  are the us repos down or overused, or misconfiogured?  is there a status page from canonical or some way to see system-wide repo status?
[03:50] <tobias_> humf
[03:52] <K-Ryan> slestak, I'm new but I
[03:52] <K-Ryan> am in the US and my repos are working fine.
[03:54] <tobias_> is there a difference between how I add repositories in kubuntus adept and synaptic?
[03:54] <K-Ryan> as long as you add it correctly and in the right file, it shouldn't
[03:54] <slestak> tobias_: results should b the same, but the tools are a little different
[03:55] <tobias_> cant find the new wine files even tho I added the "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main" rep
[03:55] <K-Ryan> !wine | tobias_
[03:55] <ubotu> tobias_: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:55] <tobias_> k-ryan: me knows
[03:55] <mikki> how do i view  a .daa file ?
[03:55] <tobias_> k-ryan: my question is more connected to adept
[03:55] <K-Ryan> tobias_ Just making sure
[03:56] <Newbster> !synaptic
[03:56] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[03:56] <K-Ryan> tobias_: if it doesn't work from synaptic, try it with Adept
[03:56] <K-Ryan> I did it that way and the repo worked
[03:56] <tobias_> should I replace the "main" part with "universe multiverse" ? in adept of course, I like adept :)
[03:57] <tobias_> aha
[03:57] <K-Ryan> I think you are supposed to
[03:57] <tobias_> I am, cool
[03:57] <K-Ryan> I'll check the wine page
[03:57] <K-Ryan> nope,  deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[03:58] <tobias_> k-ryan but that is for synaptic
[03:58] <tobias_> k-ryan it doesnt say how it works in adept
[03:58] <K-Ryan> By Adept you mean the Add/Remove Programs?
[03:58] <tobias_> adept is a nice package manager just like synaptic
[03:58] <tobias_> just I like adept better
[03:58] <Xera> synaptic is better imo
[03:59] <Xera> faster, stabler
[03:59] <K-Ryan> I have Adept for package managing
[03:59] <tobias_> xera: I think adept is prettier
[03:59] <Xera> lol
[03:59] <tobias_> :)
[03:59] <Newbster> pretty
[03:59] <uranos> wenas
[03:59] <uranos> como andamos
[04:00] <Xera> !foreign
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about foreign - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <K-Ryan> !es
[04:00] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:00] <tobias_> lol
[04:00] <uranos> hi
[04:00] <Xera> !ew > uranos
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ew - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <Xera> oops
[04:00] <Xera> !es > uranos
[04:00] <Xera> XD
[04:00] <tobias_> pretty is good! we want the xsoft users to have a safe arrival
[04:00] <Xera> um
[04:01] <K-Ryan> Xera you mean...
[04:01] <K-Ryan> !es | uranos
[04:01] <ubotu> uranos: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:01] <Xera> yes
[04:01] <Xera> lol
[04:01] <K-Ryan> ;)
[04:02] <tobias_> what is the wine package from deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main called in adept?
[04:02] <tobias_> or synaptic
[04:02] <K-Ryan> wine?
[04:02] <K-Ryan> im pretty sure
[04:02] <tobias_> !adept tobias_
[04:02] <ubotu> adept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[04:02] <tobias_> damn
[04:02] <tobias_> no help file
[04:03] <Jucato> K-Ryan: | <nick> pipes the message to <nick>, making it appear in here. '>' sends the message in a pm
[04:03] <Newbster> can anyone tell me why this happens when i do a 'sudo apt-get install wine' WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[04:03] <K-Ryan> Ah, so either works
[04:03] <Jucato> K-Ryan: yep
[04:03] <K-Ryan> Thanks jucato
[04:03] <Jucato> Newbster: it means that you need a key to authenticate/verify that the source is a trusted source
[04:04] <Jucato> unfortunately, the wine website doesn't give that key...
[04:04] <Newbster> so you mean to say that i could not be sure if my wine installation is good?
[04:04] <K-Ryan> I think regardless it's Wine
[04:04] <Jucato> not really
[04:05] <Jucato> Newbster: it just means that the system doesn't know that you allowed this new repository to be added
[04:05] <K-Ryan> But that's just what I think, don't quote me on it.
[04:05] <Newbster> ok thanks
[04:05] <Newbster> K-Ryan: lol
[04:05] <K-Ryan> =P
[04:07] <tobias_> where can I find more cool repositories?
[04:07] <tobias_> Specifically GAMES! yay!
[04:07] <K-Ryan> Yeah the package is just called wine
[04:07] <tobias_> I found it :)
[04:07] <Jucato> tobias_: Ubuntu has around 20,000 packages in its repositories...
[04:08] <K-Ryan> Yeah you just need to look through them
[04:08] <tobias_> it seems that adept removed the stupid old version of wine that was previously offered
[04:08] <K-Ryan> Or get the tags to work, I can't drag them from the availible =(
[04:08] <tobias_> and just replaced it with the new one
[04:08] <tobias_> I forgot to look at first.
[04:09] <K-Ryan> tobias_ you can go for the abuse package
[04:09] <K-Ryan> side scroller shoot em up
[04:09] <tobias_> k-ryan: oh cool :)
[04:09] <tobias_> k-ryan I will
[04:09] <Jucato> Newbster: download the GPG file from http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/ then, in the directory where you downloaded it, run "sudo apt-key add <GPG file>"
[04:09] <K-Ryan> i played it on windows going to test it on here now
[04:09] <K-Ryan> let you know if it's good =P
[04:10] <Newbster> its like duke nukem the other way around
[04:10] <Newbster> you look like predator
[04:10] <tobias_> lol it sounds cool
[04:10] <tobias_> Im gonna try
[04:11] <Newbster> jucato: ok i will dl it after i install ies4linux
[04:12] <Newbster> lol
[04:12] <Newbster> im doing it for kkosmo
[04:12] <Newbster> who is also doing it for his brutha
[04:12] <K-Ryan> yeah tobias_ abuse is worth getting
[04:14] <Newbster> kkosmo: still there man?
[04:18] <eMaX> hi all
[04:18] <eMaX> OT: anyone here happens to have a sat receiver?
[04:18] <[StingRay] > stdin, can you please tell me if I can edit the default commands for changing of language layouts in  Control Center ->Regional & Accessability-> Keyboard Layout
[04:19] <[StingRay] > You can see the commands at the bottom, but cannot change them, stdin.
[04:22] <ringtone> hi all
[04:22] <ringtone> somebody can help
[04:22] <ringtone> me
[04:22] <K-Ryan> If you tell us the problem, maybe someone can =P
[04:22] <ringtone> k ryan..
[04:23] <mpathy> Hi there.. I want to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu.. But I have to know if all things I want to have are available or usable there the same way or with similar programs!
[04:23] <ringtone> if i want to get update my kubuntu software
[04:23] <ringtone> what the right command must i type in console ?
[04:23] <K-Ryan> mpathy for the most part everything you use on ubuntu can be used on kubuntu and vice versa
[04:24] <K-Ryan> ringtone do you mean upgrade to 6.10, or normal updates?
[04:24] <ringtone> no system update
[04:24] <K-Ryan> system update, I'm not sure I know what you mean
[04:24] <ringtone> but, only want to download software
[04:24] <mpathy> 1. Clicking on Calendar, enter sth., get remindend (like with evolution) 2. some hw stats (like temperature etc.) in the taskbar http://computertemp.berlios.de/ 3. tv programm via the taskbar like with onTV
[04:25] <ringtone> apt-get update ?
[04:25] <ringtone> like this ?
[04:25] <K-Ryan> Like that?
[04:25] <mpathy> and other little gimmicks, that I really wouldnt miss..
[04:25] <K-Ryan> type sudo apt-get update
[04:25] <ringtone> k-ryan : can I private messange u
[04:25] <K-Ryan> mpathy you should be able to get similar programs if not use the same ones
[04:25] <K-Ryan> sure ringtone
[04:26] <K-Ryan> However I'm not too experienced with this, only been using this for 2 days or so.
[04:26] <mpathy> K-Ryan: Are Gnome Taskbar-Applets compatible with KDE?
[04:26] <Newbster> !kontact | mpathy
[04:26] <ubotu> kontact: KDE pim application. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1574 kB, installed size 3400 kB
[04:26] <ringtone> register ?
[04:26] <K-Ryan> mpathy I think so, I haven't tried taskbar-applets
[04:26] <K-Ryan> But I know the normal programs are.
[04:27] <Newbster> !korganizer | mpathy
[04:27] <ubotu> korganizer: KDE personal organizer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1530 kB, installed size 4596 kB
[04:27] <mpathy> Newbster: I know what Kontact is.. I want to now if under KDE I have the same great task applet functionality like in Gnome
[04:27] <Newbster> !superkaramba | mpathy
[04:27] <ubotu> mpathy: superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[04:27] <ringtone> ryan : why if i login as user $ and type su
[04:27] <Kaljakoppa> Hi, could somebody assist me with the installation (I'm running a live CD)?
[04:27] <ringtone> password : .....
[04:27] <mpathy> Newbster: I also know what Superkaramba is
[04:27] <ringtone> this error messange
[04:27] <K-Ryan> Kaljakoppa I'll help just give me one second
[04:28] <K-Ryan> ringtone type it exactly like this without quotes "sudo apt-get update
[04:28] <Jucato> !sudo | ringtone
[04:28] <ubotu> ringtone: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:28] <mpathy> Read my messages.. My question where spectific about the taskbar
[04:28] <mpathy> ;)
[04:28] <K-Ryan> then just type in your password
[04:29] <Newbster> mpathy: yes you can add applets to the kde taskbar
[04:29] <mpathy> Newbster: I also know THAT *sigh* ;)
[04:30] <Newbster> mpathy: sorry i dunno much about gnome :)
[04:30] <mpathy> Hmm.. Seems I am faster when I try it myself in a VMware image ;)
[04:30] <Newbster> mpathy: what I know is KDE ROX!
[04:31] <drarem> who is <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:31] <Kaljakoppa> My problem with the installation of Kubuntu 7.04 32-bit Herd #2 that after the keyboard selection (pressing next) the screen goes mad
[04:31] <drarem> ?
[04:31] <K-Ryan> Sory, internet kicked.
[04:32] <Jucato> !feisty | Kaljakoppa
[04:32] <ubotu> Kaljakoppa: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[04:32] <K-Ryan> Wow, what is with these names...
[04:32] <K-Ryan> Dapper, edgy, breezy, feisty...
[04:33] <Jucato> you forgot hoary and warty
[04:33] <K-Ryan> Are you serious?
[04:33] <Newbster> lol
[04:33] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[04:33] <K-Ryan> (I listed the ones I knew about)
[04:33] <Jucato> serious
[04:33] <Newbster> hi blue
[04:34] <Jucato> Warty Warthog, Hoary Hedgehog, Breezy Badger, Dapper Drake, Edgy Eft, Feisty Fawn
[04:34] <K-Ryan> o.O
[04:34] <Newbster> jucato - resident specialist
[04:34] <BluesKaj> who comes up with these silly titles ?
[04:34] <K-Ryan> Someone playing WoW
[04:34] <Jucato> sabdfl
[04:34] <Newbster> self appointed benevolent dictator for life
[04:35] <Newbster> lol
[04:35] <Jucato> yes
[04:36] <Newbster> hey thats mark shuttleworth
[04:36] <BluesKaj> benevolent dictator = a contradiction in terms
[04:36] <Jucato> yes
[04:36] <Kaljakoppa> Seems a little bit quiet channel for Feisty there, but what could cause the screen go mad?
[04:36] <Kaljakoppa> I changed "vesa" to "nv" already
[04:36] <Kaljakoppa> With different resolution
[04:36] <K-Ryan> bad cd?
[04:36] <Jucato> Kaljakoppa: unfortunately, those people in there would be the ones who would best know about it
[04:36] <Kaljakoppa> I don't think it is a bad CD
[04:37] <K-Ryan> Just throwing it out there
[04:37] <Kaljakoppa> AMD64 installation worked "fine", but I decided to change because of the obvious difficulties with the 64-bit
[04:38] <Kaljakoppa> I would use Edgy if it only worked (Core 2 Duo, Intel G965)...
[04:40] <Newbster> jucato: please educate me for a moment
[04:40] <Newbster> i want to know the process for installing stuff
[04:40] <Jucato> ??
[04:40] <Newbster> jucato: so first off wget downloads the program right?
[04:41] <Newbster> jucato: tar decompresses it
[04:41] <Jucato> Newbster: er.. depends... you should always look for the program in the repositories first
[04:41] <Newbster> jucato: ok so what does ./ do?
[04:41] <Jucato> take this pattern when looking for software: Repositories -> .deb made for Ubuntu -> general .deb for Debian-based distros -> source code
[04:42] <Newbster> jucato: actually i want to remove ies4linux and i dont know where it put itself
[04:43] <Newbster> jucato: all i know is that i did these:
[04:43] <Newbster> wget http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/downloads/ies4linux-latest.tar.gz
[04:43] <Newbster> tar zxvf ies4linux-latest.tar.gz
[04:43] <Newbster> cd ies4linux-*
[04:43] <Newbster> ./ies4linux
[04:43] <Jucato> '.' means "this current directory". '/' means (in this case) "directory or folder". "./configure" means "run the executable file named 'configure' which is located in this directory"
[04:44] <Newbster> jucato: amazing how i can do stuff without really understanding what i did
[04:44] <Jucato> in that case, it's telling the system to run the ies4linux installer, which is found in the directory that you are currently in
[04:44] <Jucato> which is not really wise in all cases...
[04:44] <Jucato> Newbster: *never* run this command "sudo rm -rf /" and I mean never!
[04:45] <Newbster> jucato: i guess... ok i wont run that cmd...so if i want to remove it i can just delete the files that it created and downloaded?
[04:46] <Jucato> Newbster: ies4linux will install everything in a hidden directory in your home folder (~/.ies4linux). It will not touch any system files (that's why you don't need to run it as root). if you want to remove it, just delete that folder
[04:47] <jontec> anyone know about mod_proxy? there's no package for it in the repo...
[04:47] <Newbster> jucato: i see, so if we compare it to windows - the home folder is like Program Files, right?
[04:47] <Jucato> Newbster: nope
[04:48] <Jucato> there is no direct comparison between the Windows file system heirarchy and Linux's
[04:48] <Jucato> !filesystem
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filesystem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <Jucato> bah
[04:48] <Newbster> jucato: that explains my conundrum - i dont know where to put where
[04:49] <Jucato> Newbster: because in most cases, you don't have to know.
[04:49] <Jucato> that's what package managers do for you
[04:49] <Newbster> jucato: package manager = add / remove programs
[04:50] <Jucato> Newbster: that's a package manager frontend (GUI app). but yeah, you could consider that, in simple terms...
[04:50] <Jucato> Add/Remove is a sort of simplified and prettified version of the Adept Manager
[04:50] <Newbster> pretty
[04:51] <Newbster> jucato: i see, so even if i install using the CLI - i can also remove it by using adept
[04:51] <Jucato> (but technically, the package manager in Ubuntu and Debian-based systems is DPKG...but that might be too much info for now...)
[04:52] <Jucato> Newbster: depends
[04:52] <Jucato> for example, ies4linux, can't be removed with apt-get or Adept
[04:53] <Newbster> jucato: it can't?
[04:54] <Jucato> it can't. because you didn't use the package manager (adept or apt-get or dpkg) to install it
[04:55] <Newbster> jucato: yep ur right i just tried
[04:56] <Newbster> jucato: so deleting the hidden folder in the home directory would do it? i thought the home directory was only 4 settings
[04:57] <pip`> anyone know what might have happened?... my kubuntu box wont boot at all now. the last things i did before trying to restart my kubuntu box was i clicked something on a webpage and all of a sudden i got like 50 new browser launch icons down on the bottom of my screen & my computer got bogged down, then after my first reboot,  my graphics got all fuzzy looking... so i tried to reboot but now nothing happens when i turn my box on except my cpu fa
[04:58] <pip`> help helP
[04:58] <Jucato> Newbster: well, that's a simplified way of looking at it
[04:58] <Newbster> jucato: thanks man you've been really helpful :)
[04:59] <Jucato> no problem
[04:59] <Newbster> jucato: sometimes the websites just tell you to cut and paste code but users like me just don't get what the codes mean or do
[04:59] <Jucato> pip`: sorry... no idea about it...
[05:00] <pip`> :(
[05:00] <hatta> Newbster, http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[05:00] <bipolar> pip`: why did you loose it? did it run away?
[05:01] <pip`> well i wont give a signal to my monitor now
[05:01] <pip`> but my cpu fan does turn on
[05:01] <bipolar> haha
[05:02] <bipolar> pip`: what did you do just before it stopped booting
[05:02] <pip`> :(
[05:02] <pip`> the last things i did before trying to restart my kubuntu box was i clicked something on a webpage and all of a sudden i got like 50 new browser launch icons down on the bottom of my screen & my computer got bogged down, then
[05:02] <pip`> then after my first reboot,  my graphics got all fuzzy looking... so i tried to reboot but now nothing happens when i turn my box on except my cpu fan turns on, no signal at all to the screen
[05:03] <waylandbill> your video card may have failed.
[05:03] <bipolar> pip`: the web browser thing is unrelated. sounds like your video card burned up
[05:03] <pip`> it was an onboard gigabyte mobo about a year old
[05:03] <pip`> ohh noo
[05:04] <waylandbill> if its a desktop and if the case allows it, use a plugin video card.
[05:04] <pip`> i was also getting errors whenever i tried to install packages using adept
[05:05] <Newbster> hatta: wow thats a long read
[05:05] <pip`> yes i can try my spare addon video card
[05:05] <pip`> i guess
[05:05] <Jucato> Newbster: tldp.org has a lot of good reads for Linux. some are newbie oriented. maybe you'd want to take a peek sometime, since you're not like the other newbies :)
[05:06] <Newbster> i managed to finish the introduction lol
[05:07] <hatta> learning the shell isn't exactly easy, but doing the work to build the mental models so you understand what's happening pays off greatly
[05:07] <mick666> hello
[05:10] <fre> joooo
[05:10] <fre> cvakes???
[05:10] <fre> wie kent er hier wa van linux???
[05:12] <Jucato> !de
[05:12] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:12] <Newbster> german i suppose
[05:13] <K-Ryan> I think so
[05:13] <Newbster> which reminds me kopete has some nice plugins that enable instant translation
[05:14] <K-Ryan> instant?
[05:14] <K-Ryan> That's not really possible is it? Considering the grammar structure of languages vary.
[05:15] <Newbster> yes thats why the translations usually are lopsided
[05:15] <waylandbill> and sometimes entertaining.
[05:15] <K-Ryan> I wouldn't really call that translation
[05:16] <K-Ryan> Just kind of swapping words...
[05:16] <Newbster> specifically for languages where it is common to put the predicate before the subject
[05:16] <Newbster> that would be a more accurate description
[05:17] <Newbster> but given the number of people who are bilingual and show interest in this field, it would be possible in the near future
[05:18] <Newbster> so instead of 'swapping words' they can 'swap phrases or sentences'
[05:18] <K-Ryan> But it would still be off
[05:18] <K-Ryan> Everyone speaks different, individually I mean.
[05:19] <hatta> machine translation is AI-complete
[05:19] <yogi> Riddell: The POP filters in KMail 1.9.5 are STILL completely inoperable.  (I first reported this when Dapper was still in beta.)
[05:19] <hatta> even talented humans can't translate things perfectly
[05:19] <Riddell> yogi: is this likely to be a kubuntu specific problem?
[05:19] <hatta> for further reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Ton_beau_de_Marot
[05:20] <yogi> Riddell: I honestly don't know, Sir!  I DO know that the POP filters worked in the Breezy distro...
[05:21] <Riddell> yogi: it's probably worth asking on #kontact if it's a general issue
[05:21] <yogi> Riddell:Very well... I will check there, too.  I will get back to you on the negative.
[05:22] <yogi> Riddell:Thank you, SIr.
[05:22] <hanseatix> #mkbw
[05:23] <linux_den> any way to get w32codecs for kubuntu
[05:23] <yogi> linux_den:Restricted Formats page.
[05:23] <K-Ryan> !adonthell
[05:23] <ubotu> adonthell: A 2D graphical roleplaying game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.4.cvs.20050813-2.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 249 kB, installed size 916 kB
[05:23] <linux_den> where do i find that
[05:23] <waylandbill> !Restricted
[05:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:24] <yogi> linux_den: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-848295cba1b3591a4b4a0dbea5844fd5d2894b6b
[05:24] <yogi> linux_den:That is where I got it all set up for the last three versions
[05:25] <linux_den> thank you
[05:27] <Newbster> K-ryan: "It would still be off" Agreed, though attempts to create such a software would be continuosly made of course
[05:27] <K-Ryan> It would never be perfect =P
[05:27] <Newbster> as all human endeavors ;)
[05:28] <K-Ryan> The only way to effectively translate would be to limit the amount of phrases that you would be able to say. ie. preset phrases
[05:28] <Newbster> like: "get chair"
[05:29] <Newbster> or sudo delete [file name]
[05:29] <K-Ryan> No as in things like "Good game!" or "Play again?"
[05:29] <Dr_willis> Final Fantasy online can do that K-Ryan  :)
[05:29] <mick666> excuse me
[05:29] <Newbster> lol
[05:30] <K-Ryan> I've seen it done before, I'm just saying that's the only way for perfect translation.
[05:30] <mick666> can i work for Canonical in Italy?
[05:30] <mick666> do you know something?
[05:30] <Newbster> is there a Canonical in Italy?
[05:30] <K-Ryan> If you attempted to take normal everyday chat and translate it perfectly, you would end up with preset phrases
[05:31] <K-Ryan> And nobody would have their own personality to express.
[05:31] <K-Ryan> Or be able to anyway
[05:31] <mick666> yes there is
[05:31] <Newbster> Just like pc speak
[05:31] <Newbster> add emoticons then
[05:32] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:32] <K-Ryan> But everyone would sound the same
[05:32] <Dr_willis> 0_o
[05:32] <K-Ryan> Plus or minus an emoticon
[05:32] <Newbster> er...download personalized themes?
[05:32] <K-Ryan> So you would have 200 other people using the same theme as you anyway =P
[05:33] <K-Ryan> Unless you made your own translation setup for a theme that is
[05:34] <tobias_> if I boot the kubuntu cd, can I change the size of my partitions and put space from one partition to another without deleting data?
[05:34] <Newbster> K-Ryan: anyway, you are right - there can be no perfect translation - its a linguistic and philosophical fact
[05:34] <K-Ryan> I know, I just wanted to make sure you understood why =P
[05:35] <HymnToLife> tobias_, yes, though it's always wise to save important data before, just in case
[05:35] <K-Ryan> tobias_ as long as you are moving unused space
[05:35] <pip`> welp my mobo is looking deader n deader by the minute... swapping video cards doesnt fix it... next i guess i should try swapping ram
[05:35] <tobias_> kool
[05:35] <tobias_> thanx
[05:35] <K-Ryan> Np
[05:35] <pip`> :((
[05:35] <hamzor> hello
[05:35] <hamzor> i need little help
[05:36] <hamzor> with nvidia drivers
[05:36] <K-Ryan> Hey would you guys reccomend getting....
[05:36] <K-Ryan> !aegis-virus-scanner
[05:36] <ubotu> aegis-virus-scanner: A virus scanner for Linux/Unix systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-1 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 144 kB
[05:36] <K-Ryan> Just in case?
[05:37] <hamzor> when i try to install Nvidia 64bit drivers i get error = "Unable to find the system utility please check ld"
[05:38] <K-Ryan> They aren't
[05:38] <Dr_willis> K-Ryan,  just in case of what?
[05:38] <K-Ryan> I don't know
[05:38] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:39] <pip`> haha
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Only use ive seen for virus scanners in linux - is to scan your ftp/downloads and other things for windows virusisisisis.
[05:39] <Dr_willis> or to work with your email/other servers
[05:39] <slougi> hey all, someone wanna help me out a bit with zeroconf? when I run mdns-scan in a console it finds all the services, but the kde zeroconf:/ ioslave is not working. any ideas on how to fix this?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> again - to scan for files with windows viruses..
[05:40] <waylandbill> let the windows friends scan them themselves. ;-)
[05:41] <pip`> Dr, what might cause the problem i just had right before my screen went fuzzy & now i got no monitor signal on boot, before that happened i had a bunch(50) of browser icons popping up at bottom of my screen after i clicked on a weblink ?
[05:42] <Dink> Anyone know if you can increase the scroll buffer / history in konsole ??
[05:42] <pip`> paging Dr_willis paging Dr_willis  :)
[05:42] <Dr_willis> pip`,  you had firefox or konqueror - web surfing and got a bunch of popup ads/sites? now X wont load?
[05:42] <hamzor> anyone how can help me with my problem plz /q me
[05:43] <pip`> i might have had both browsers on, but i know i had atleast firefox on
[05:43] <PupenoR> Was Amarok's support for gstreamer removed in Kubuntu ?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> i cant think of anything running the browser as a user. could do to mess up X.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> pip`,  now you cant even get to the KDM login screen?
[05:43] <pip`> now my mobo wont send signal to my monitor at all, but my cpu fan does turn on
[05:43] <waylandbill> Dr_willis: it won't even boot. I told him his video card is probably done for. The browser issue was probably unrelated.
[05:43] <linux_den> what program can i use to play quicktime files
[05:43] <pip`> after i tried to reboot
[05:44] <linux_den> Please
[05:44] <Dr_willis> I agree with you waylandbill .
[05:44] <pip`> its not my video card i just swapped them out
[05:44] <Dr_willis> pip`,  can you even get to the BIOS settings? see the memorycount/stuff ?
[05:44] <JosefK> pip`: does it POST?
[05:44] <pip`> no
[05:44] <Dr_willis> Yea the 'POST' messages..
[05:44] <pip`> no post
[05:44] <pip`> no signal
[05:44] <pip`> to monitor
[05:44] <waylandbill> does it beep the internal speaker?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> That sounds like got some hardware issue. or cable problem then.
[05:44] <JosefK> pip`: try swapping most of your RAM sticks out, try them in various combinations in different slots
[05:45] <pip`> yes, i switched out my ram chips as well
[05:45] <JosefK> pip`: all of them?
[05:45] <JosefK> pip`: mind, it would still beep like crazy if you had no RAM sticks in there
[05:45] <pip`> well i tried diff combos using the 2 ramchips that were in there
[05:45] <pip`> i still need to tried a new ramchip i guess
[05:46] <Dr_willis> may want to try a new monitor...
[05:46] <pip`> well my monitor seems good cuz thats what im using now
[05:46] <K-Ryan> Guys, every half hour to an hour Kubuntu freezes and I have to restart, any idea what might cause it?
[05:46] <pip`> off my other box
[05:46] <Dr_willis> but if the pc isent even beeping - that sounds bad...
[05:46] <Dr_willis> but it could be a loose cable, or somthing
[05:46] <JosefK> indeed Dr_willis, does it beep if you try to switch it on with on RAM in?
[05:46] <hamzor> Dr_willis could  you help me with my problem with nvidia drivers
[05:47] <pip`> well i dont hear any beeping but then i dont have my sound connected either
[05:47] <K-Ryan> the pc speaker would beep
[05:47] <waylandbill> from the internal speaker
[05:47] <JosefK> *no RAM
[05:47] <pip`> i think i pulled out the pc speaker last year
[05:47] <Dr_willis> hamzor,  i dont use 64bit disrto stuff.. I dont see the point in it at this time. Theres too many little issues.
[05:47] <pip`> hmm
[05:47] <JosefK> oh :/
[05:47] <K-Ryan> Got too anoyying?
[05:47] <waylandbill> :-O
[05:47] <pip`> yea
[05:47] <K-Ryan> I knew it =P
[05:47] <JosefK> pip`: 'sudo rmmod pcspkr' - a less destructive option
[05:47] <pip`> heh
[05:47] <hamzor> can you say where to get binutils
[05:47] <hamzor> i think im missing it
[05:47] <Dr_willis> Heck most little speakers are built onto the MB these days.
[05:48] <K-Ryan> built in, but still plugged in
[05:48] <K-Ryan> pull the wire and it won't play
[05:48] <hamzor> i solved it :D
[05:48] <pip`> well let me try listening for beeps
[05:48] <JosefK> pip`: one single, relatively short beep indicates everything's fine
[05:48] <pip`> k
[05:48] <K-Ryan> That's why my computer beeps on startup?
[05:48] <JosefK> pip`: iirc it's always three for RAM, not sure about VGA issues though
[05:48] <K-Ryan> I thought it was to bother me...
[05:49] <K-Ryan> I've been through so much with this computer it's not funny
[05:49] <Dr_willis> thats to bother you. :)
[05:49] <pip`> no beeps but the cpufan is on
[05:49] <pip`> :(
[05:49] <K-Ryan> Well now we know it isn't your cpufan causing the trouble
[05:49] <K-Ryan> =P
[05:49] <JosefK> hmm, the CPU fan comes on just when the motherboard has power, doesn't indicate success/failure
[05:49] <Dr_willis> cpufan on - tells ya that at least the Powersupply isent totally dead. :)
[05:50] <Dr_willis> part of the PS could be dead.
[05:50] <K-Ryan> Can you hear the hard drives start to spin?
[05:50] <pip`> yes i can hear the drives
[05:50] <K-Ryan> Hrmm
[05:51] <fuel> hi how can i export the paths when kubuntu boots up ??? its not reading the .profile in my home.... any other way?
[05:51] <Dr_willis> fuel,  normally the .bash_profile and .bashrc are used.. not .profile
[05:51] <fuel> oh! i recently migrated from suse.......and it was .profile there
[05:52] <pip`> how easy is it in kubuntu to get into a video loop that might hurt the mobo or video card in general ?
[05:52] <Dr_willis> pip`,  next to impossible id say
[05:52] <pip`> ahh ok, so even a virus cudnt cause that kinda problem? ok
[05:52] <Dr_willis> its hard to do anything that can damage the  hardware.. (short of overclocking)
[05:52] <fuel> i installed sun' java
[05:52] <pip`> ahh ok
[05:52] <fuel> how do i remove gij ???? its not allowing me to do showing some dependency
[05:53] <Dr_willis> !info java
[05:53] <ubotu> Package java does not exist in any distro I know
[05:53] <Dr_willis> !java
[05:53] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:53] <K-Ryan> Anyone know what would cause Kubuntu to freeze every hour or so and require a reboot?
[05:53] <Dr_willis> fuel,  ive never had to remove that to get java working.
[05:53] <pip`> guess its just a coincidence i got all those annoying browser popups just before my problem
[05:54] <fuel> no the fact is gij and sun's are conflicting......... i installed sun's manually
[05:54] <fuel> from .bin->.deb
[05:54] <Dr_willis> fuel,  manually? egads... ya could of used the package manager
[05:54] <pip`> no i gotta shell out $$ for a new p4 mobo :(
[05:54] <pip`> now
[05:55] <Dr_willis> pip`,  ive seen comlete Linux box's for $100 US at some electronic places. :)
[05:55] <K-Ryan> Well you could always get something with minimum spec's then replace it with what you have in your current.
[05:55] <Dr_willis> heh - a Minimum spec system = 3x what i got now.
[05:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:55] <hamzor> how to stop and start xserver @ kubuntu
[05:56] <K-Ryan> Dr_willis what are you running?
[05:56] <K-Ryan> Hardware wise
[05:56] <Dr_willis> got an old amd64 at 2.3 ghz
[05:56] <K-Ryan> Oh you think that's old?
[05:56] <K-Ryan> I've got a 1.8ghz in mine =(
[05:56] <K-Ryan> Upgraded everything else though
[05:57] <JosefK> hamzor: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:57] <Dr_willis> its 2+ yrs old. :) i do have a decent video card - and 7 hd's .
[05:57] <K-Ryan> Mine is 5 years old =P
[05:57] <Dr_willis> my mythtv box is just a 1.8 ghx
[05:57] <hamzor> josefK wont work
[05:58] <K-Ryan> My specs are: 128 vid ram, 512 ram, 410gb of space on 2 HDDs(1 external 1 internal) and my 1.8ghz proccesor
[05:58] <K-Ryan> Can you tell I upgraded? =P
[05:58] <Dr_willis> i got 1.25 TB of drive space. :)
[05:58] <hamzor> mine is amd opteron 146, 2048mb RAM, 2x500Gb, Nvidia 7800GTX
[05:58] <K-Ryan> i dont need that much
[05:59] <JosefK> hamzor: well, that stops it - 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' would just do a restart
[05:59] <hamzor> no
[05:59] <hamzor> that command dosen`t work on me
[05:59] <Dr_willis> use 'kdm' not gdm
[05:59] <JosefK> christ, sorry, forgot which *ubuntu I was in there
[05:59] <Dr_willis> or perhaps xdm
[05:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:00] <animimotus> hi
[06:00] <K-Ryan> That reminds me, why do people say *nix?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> to mean Unix and its variants
[06:01] <animimotus> I just want to control my cpu and hdd temperatures, what can I use please ?
[06:01] <borie> hello under dapper with a pcmcia wifi card ASUS WL-107G (it is a chipset RT2500); on my hostpoint I have 3 WPA modes : 1) TKIP;  2) AES/CCMP &  3) TKIP+AES;  FINALLY I succeeded to connect me on TKIP while following this french tutorial: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/wifi/rt2500dapper; on the other hand impossible to connect in TKIP+AES  & it is the mode which is advised.ideas? (I am already too glad to be connected in WPA (: )
[06:01] <borie>
[06:01] <K-Ryan> Ah, thanks Doc
[06:01] <JosefK> animimotus: fire and ice?
[06:01] <animimotus> JosefK: I don't know it, is it un QT ?
[06:02] <K-Ryan> animimotus I haven't heard of actually controlling the temperatures. I've seen monitoring programs though
[06:02] <K-Ryan> If that is what you are looking for
[06:02] <JosefK> animimotus: not quite ;) do you want to 'view' the temperatures, or control them?
[06:03] <JosefK> animimotus: if you want to view, KSysGuard is what you need, you could browse for ACPI Thermal Zones
[06:03] <animimotus> JosefK: I just want to view the temperature
[06:04] <animimotus> JosefK: I can't see temperature with conky, in fact I don't know if it supply it
[06:04] <JosefK> animimotus: ksysguard, browse 'localhost' on the left, then 'ACPI', then 'Thermal Zones'
[06:04] <JosefK> animimotus: check what sensors there are in there
[06:04] <K-Ryan> JosefK when I click local host nothing pops up, unless you mean on the right?
[06:05] <JosefK> K-Ryan: well, it's on the left here :/
[06:05] <cyanid3> I'm trying to add a new user.  The add is successful but I don't have access to X with the new one. What am I doing wrong??
[06:05] <K-Ryan> Oh, there we go, now it's working.
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> is the new user in the right groups?
[06:06] <cyanid3> I put it in the same groups that the default kubuntu created user was in
[06:06] <cyanid3> I'm banging my head right now...
[06:06] <K-Ryan> my local host doesn't have an ACPI JosefK, any idea?
[06:07] <animimotus> JosefK: no ACPI seems to be here
[06:07] <animimotus> K-Ryan: same problem :)
[06:07] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[06:08] <animimotus> $ cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep acpi
[06:08] <animimotus> # defoptions=quiet splash locale=fr_FR apm=off acpi=force
[06:08] <animimotus> kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sda7 ro quiet splash locale=fr_FR apm=off acpi=force
[06:08] <animimotus> acpi=force ? is it ok ?
[06:09] <JosefK> K-Ryan: old motherboard I guess :/ not sure where temperature information is if it isn't there, but ksysguard is the place to look
[06:09] <cyanid3> the groups that the user is in are: adm, admin, audio, cdrom, dialout, dip, floppy, lpadmin, plugdev, scanner, video
[06:09] <K-Ryan> Yeah it's no biggie, I didn't think my processor had a thermometer anyway =P
[06:11] <kde_alin> how does Intel GMA 900 video card works in Linux?
[06:12] <kde_alin> is there OpenGL support for it?
[06:12] <kde_alin> or should i have to compile the module for it?
[06:12] <K-Ryan> !opengl
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <K-Ryan> Hrmm
[06:12] <kde_alin> whit what version of ATI video card could you compare?
[06:13] <kde_alin> with
[06:13] <K-Ryan> ATI's don't completly work with Linux
[06:13] <K-Ryan> Uses a different thing
[06:13] <Lynoure> K-Ryan: Some of them do.
[06:13] <kde_alin> I know that k-ryan
[06:13] <K-Ryan> Why would you compare it then?
[06:14] <cyanid3> Could the fact that I don't have the files .Xauthority and .ICEauthority in a new users home directory be preventing them from using X?
[06:14] <mineur> !samba
[06:14] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:14] <kde_alin> i have to choose betwen a laptop with ATI X200 and another with Intel GMA 900
[06:14] <cyanid3> nevermind
[06:15] <Lynoure> K-Ryan: Go look at some benchmarks for the cards you are considering. I think I was comparing Radeon X600 and intel GMA 950, and choose the X600, which also works with open source drivers quite well
[06:15] <kde_alin> thanx
[06:15] <K-Ryan> kde_alin needs to know, not me =P
[06:15] <Lynoure> K-Ryan: oops, got you people wrong way around :)
[06:15] <K-Ryan> It's okey
[06:15] <pip`> Kafka..
[06:19] <Morrissey> hi, anyone know how I can get full 800dpi for an MX Revolution? The Logitech MX Revolution mouse? :)
[06:22] <slougi> hey all, someone wanna help me out a bit with zeroconf? when I run mdns-scan in a console it finds all the services, but the kde zeroconf:/ ioslave is not working. any ideas on how to fix this?
[06:25] <sergio_> ol
[06:25] <wimpies> Hi all, when I set the keyboard repeat rate, apply, stop the system manager and start it again the settings are gone.  How can save these settings ?
[06:28] <sergio_> Ol para todos, algum fala portugus a
[06:28] <BluesKaj> !pt
[06:28] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:31] <washington> ol
[06:31] <sergio_> ol washington
[06:31] <K-Ryan> !pt
[06:31] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus.  Obrigada.
[06:33] <sergio_> ol tia
[06:33] <sandra__> RSRSRS
[06:33] <washington> cocao
[06:33] <sandra__> TIA  O TEU...
[06:33] <washington> 2007 o ano do coquim
[06:34] <K-Ryan> Can someone tell them that this is the English only channel?
[06:35] <sandra__> TEM ALGUEM QUE POSSA CONV COMIGO QUE NO SEJA AS BIBAS DO MEU TRAB?
[06:35] <sandra__> DIGA LA GOSTOSO
[06:35] <ismael_> ola
[06:35] <Jucato> sandra__: English please
[06:35] <Daisuke_Ido> !pt | sandra__
[06:36] <ubotu> sandra__: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:36] <sergio_> ismael
[06:36] <ismael_> muita  boa
[06:36] <K-Ryan> I already posted that twice
[06:36] <K-Ryan> They aren't going there
[06:36] <sandra__> VC ACHA ?
[06:36] <Jucato> !pt
[06:36] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> i noticed :\
[06:36] <K-Ryan> and sandra is using all caps -.-
[06:36] <ismael_> fico so imaginando
[06:37] <sandra__> N FIQUE ASSIM AMIGUINHO FAA ...
[06:37] <ismael_> kkkkkkkkkk
[06:37] <Jucato> they have the same IP address... how amusing
[06:37] <ismael_> serginho ta por ai
[06:37] <K-Ryan> they are using this to chat amongst themselves
[06:37] <Jucato> ismael_, sandra__ this is an English-only channel.
[06:37] <PINPON__> TEM CORAGEM?
[06:37] <K-Ryan> they aren't listening they aren't even here for Kubuntu
[06:37] <PINPON__> ISMAEL
[06:37] <K-Ryan> Gotta kick em or something
[06:37] <freekkk> greetings out there
[06:38] <freekkk> is there any big german channel?
[06:38] <PINPON__> ESTOU COM UMA IMPRESSO QUE VC  UM MORENO CHOCOLATE!
[06:38] <K-Ryan> !de
[06:38] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:38] <PINPON__>   VERDADE?
[06:39] <freekkk> thx
[06:39] <freekkk> !de
[06:39] <PINPON__> ISMAEl?
[06:39] <PINPON__> VC TA AI?
[06:39] <Jucato> PINPON__: stop it
[06:40] <sergio_> ESTOU AQUI
[06:40] <PINPON__> KD ELE?
[06:40] <PINPON__> ISMAELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
[06:40] <PINPON__> KD VC
[06:42] <K-Ryan> PINPON__, sergio_ ENGLISH
[06:42] <inteliwasp> how can i make ssh accept a new key from a known good server?
[06:43] <mark__o> i'm trying to copy /home from one HD over /home on another HD. I'm on a live CD and right now it won't let me modify files of mounted HD's. Says owner and group are "1000"
[06:43] <pip`> which is buggier? ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[06:44] <K-Ryan> i dont think they are buggy at all
[06:44] <Thehound666> ku by a little IMO
[06:44] <K-Ryan> Although I haven't really used Ubuntu
[06:44] <Thehound666> but an thee are, mr
[06:44] <pip`> ok
[06:44] <ismael_> dia zmacho
[06:44] <ismael_> eu quero  comer
[06:44] <ismael_> .........
[06:44] <ismael_> melancia
[06:44] <Thehound666> all of them are minor
[06:45] <Thehound666> *
[06:45] <K-Ryan> ismael_ English
[06:45] <Thehound666> why that came onot sure
[06:46] <Gilton> ola
[06:46] <K-Ryan> !es
[06:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:46] <K-Ryan> !pt
[06:46] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:46] <sergio_> OLA GILTON
[06:46] <Gilton> oxe
[06:46] <K-Ryan> ENGLISH
[06:46] <sergio_> VC CONVERSA COM VARIAS PESSOA EM TODO O MUNDO
[06:46] <K-Ryan> Someone help me out here
[06:47] <Gilton> legal
[06:47] <sergio_> LEGAL
[06:47] <K-Ryan> #kubuntu = English ONLY
[06:47] <Jucato> sergio_, ismael_, PINPON__ this will be your last warning. speak in English or take your chat elsewhere
[06:47] <Jucato> that goes for you too Gilton
[06:47] <Jucato> !pt
[06:47] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:47] <K-Ryan> Jucato they aren't even talking about Kubuntu
[06:48] <Jucato> K-Ryan: I know
[06:48] <hassan2a> !pt
[06:48] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:48] <hassan2a> !pty
[06:48] <hassan2a> !pyt
[06:48] <hassan2a> !pt
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <hassan2a> !pt
[06:48] <hassan2a> !pt
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pyt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <Jucato> hassan2a: stop that
[06:49] <hassan2a> stop what ?
[06:49] <Jucato> !fishing
[06:49] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:49] <crusty> hi everyone! need to convert avi in to wmv.....what program do i need to i install? got kubuntu 6.10. meny thanks!
[06:49] <Thehound666> ok this should work
[06:49] <Thehound666> damn mangled packets
[06:49] <Thehound666> contacted my host before on that
[06:49] <Thehound666> ok I seem fine
[06:51] <esteuson> OLA
[06:51] <sergio_> diz esteuson
[06:51] <K-Ryan> Jucato it's another one =/
[06:51] <sergio_>  legal
[06:52] <esteuson> OBESTEIRA
[06:52] <K-Ryan> Another one!
[06:52] <K-Ryan> Oh, same one as before...
[06:53] <cyber-hazard> 30 seconds in the channel and banning is happening. looks to be entertaining :)
[06:53] <K-Ryan> These guys are speaking portuguese(excuse my spelling) and have been for the past 10-15 minutes
[06:53] <K-Ryan> They aren't even talking about Kubuntu...
[06:54] <cyber-hazard> hehe
[06:54] <K-Ryan> Jucato: Don't like being labeled as operator?
[06:54] <Jucato> K-Ryan: it's an Ubuntu policy
[06:54] <K-Ryan> Ah, didn't know.
[06:55] <cyber-hazard> no one should have to go through being an op. constant outcries, "Op me! Op me!" /me shudders
[06:55] <Jucato> "Don't stay +o for long: After you did what you needed the operator privileges for, de-op yourself again. Staying +o for long times is not really useful (and you'll attract all questions - which may not be what you want)."
[06:55] <K-Ryan> Anyway I was going to say "I don't blame you"
[06:57] <K-Ryan> Jucato why do most of their names still show in the user list?
[06:57] <Jucato> I didn't kick them :)
[06:58] <K-Ryan> Hah!
[06:58] <cyber-hazard> i think my favourite part of kubuntu thus far is the big X logo for a screensaver :P
[06:58] <K-Ryan> X screensaver? I don't think I saw that one...
[06:58] <cyber-hazard> sure it has something to do with me not configuring it. but it's just so....minimalist
[06:58] <Daisuke_Ido> cyber-hazard: correct, there are a lot more than just that
[06:58] <cyber-hazard> K-Ryan: it's the only one I've seen so far
[06:59] <cyber-hazard> Daisuke_Ido: yeah, just too lazy to fix it. other than dealing with my iPod, I'm usually in cli
[07:00] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm a gui boy myself, but that's mostly from being a windows convert
[07:00] <Daisuke_Ido> so yes, i was one of the unwashed masses for a long time ;)
[07:00] <K-Ryan> I get a kick out of the pendulum screensaver
[07:00] <kaoz> Hallo
[07:00] <K-Ryan> Hi there
[07:01] <cyber-hazard> yeah. I love GUI's, don't get my wrong. my KDE is all tricked out with crazy effects and what not. but Kubuntu is on my laptop, so it's mostly for cli since it can't handle crazy effects
[07:01] <cyber-hazard> my workstation here at the office, however (what I'm on right now), is all configured. too many shells and RDP connections open to not be in GUI :)
[07:03] <rodrigo> hola
[07:03] <cyber-hazard> speaking of converts, I'm actually a gentoo convert. hence the cli :P
[07:03] <cyber-hazard> hey there, rodrigo
[07:04] <rodrigo> hola que tal
[07:04] <K-Ryan> !es
[07:04] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:04] <cyber-hazard> oh, hehe
[07:04] <K-Ryan> =P
[07:04] <rodrigo> ok!!! hi
[07:04] <rodrigo> i am from argentina
[07:05] <cyber-hazard> sorry, I live in Southern California. So even if we see a "hola" it's usually just an english speaker :P
[07:05] <K-Ryan> I figured
[07:05] <rodrigo> sorry
[07:05] <K-Ryan> It's okay, it's just easier to get help in your language from people who speak it
[07:06] <rodrigo> who knows about beryl
[07:06] <K-Ryan> !beryl | rodrigo
[07:06] <ubotu> rodrigo: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:06] <cyber-hazard> that bot is just plain handy
[07:06] <K-Ryan> It's great
[07:06] <Jucato> K-Ryan: btw, not everyone who comes in here with hola, ola, or bonjour actually don't speak English... some actually just like to come in greeting like that...
[07:06] <rodrigo> ok, soo i need the drivers nvidia
[07:06] <K-Ryan> Jucato I know
[07:06] <K-Ryan> But I figured an offer is nice =P
[07:07] <Jucato> rodrigo: yes
[07:07] <K-Ryan> !nvidia
[07:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:07] <K-Ryan> =)
[07:07] <Jucato> anyway, time to hit the sack
[07:07] <cyber-hazard> hahah
[07:07] <cyber-hazard> that's awesome!
[07:07] <K-Ryan> Cya Jucato
[07:07] <cyber-hazard> g'night, Jucato
[07:07] <Jucato> g'night! and behave :P
[07:07] <K-Ryan> Wait Jucato
[07:07] <rodrigo> i ask because i am new in linux
[07:08] <K-Ryan> What about that guys name?
[07:08] <Jucato> K-Ryan: huh?
[07:08] <K-Ryan> Isn't that breaking some policy rule?
[07:08] <K-Ryan> Using the name "administrador"
[07:08] <Jucato> nope
[07:08] <K-Ryan> Just making sure
[07:08] <Jucato> :)
[07:08] <K-Ryan> Continue on with you're hitting the hay.
[07:08] <K-Ryan> *your
[07:08] <cyber-hazard> hehe
[07:08] <Jucato> if someone comes in with "root" or "root_"... just warn them not to go online as root
[07:09] <cyber-hazard> yeah
[07:09] <K-Ryan> What's wrong with that?
[07:09] <Jucato> specially on IRC
[07:09] <LjL> everything's wrong with it
[07:09] <K-Ryan> I don't get it
[07:09] <cyber-hazard> yeah, quite a bit
[07:09] <Jucato> K-Ryan: you're basically exposing yourself to everyone :)
[07:09] <LjL> why would you ever do something like going to IRC as *root*? that's utterly stupid
[07:09] <Daisuke_Ido> going online as root?  it's an open invitation "hey!  use me!  i have permission to do EVERYTHING!"
[07:09] <cyber-hazard> if their username is root, that means you're logged in an connected as root
[07:09] <cyber-hazard> yeah
[07:10] <cyber-hazard> basically what they both said, though LjL was a little more realistic and Daisuke_Ido was a little more helpful :P
[07:10] <K-Ryan> I still don't get how if their name is root, it's bad.
[07:10] <cyber-hazard> cause if their name is root then they are just using their login name as their nick by default
[07:10] <LjL> it's not
[07:10] <LjL> but if the nickname's root, chances are it's because they're logged in as such
[07:10] <Jucato> K-Ryan: most of the time, the IRC client uses the user's username as the default IRC nick
[07:10] <thybo> hmm
[07:10] <thybo> irc://irc.kaffeinenet.com/nubuntu
[07:11] <K-Ryan> Mhm, but I still don't get how "root" tells everyone else your info.
[07:11] <Jucato> so if you launch an IRC client as root, it will get the root's user name ("root") as the default nick
[07:11] <Jucato> K-Ryan: it's not about telling everyone your info
[07:11] <cyber-hazard> K-Ryan: it's about telling everyone that you're vulnerable
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> K-Ryan: it doesn't, directly, but it tells them that you're logged in as root (most likely) and are therefore vulnerable
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> wow
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> stereo
[07:11] <K-Ryan> Still don't get it =/
[07:11] <cyber-hazard> IRC isn't really the most friendly environement
[07:11] <K-Ryan> I know that
[07:11] <Random_Transit> anyone here ever tried setting up a WebDAV server on ubuntu?
[07:12] <K-Ryan> I mean I get how it's bad, but telling someone your username, that's bad?
[07:12] <cyber-hazard> no
[07:12] <Jucato> K-Ryan: it's not about telling people your username...
[07:12] <Daisuke_Ido> it's not about the username
[07:12] <K-Ryan> Then what does it tell them?
[07:12] <K-Ryan> >.<
[07:12] <cyber-hazard> it's about programs running with specific permissions
[07:12] <Daisuke_Ido> it's about what a root account is capable of
[07:12] <cyber-hazard> if you are logged in to IRC as root, that means the IRC program is running as root
[07:12] <Jucato> K-Ryan: when someone goes online with the "root" nick, most often than not it means that he is running the IRC client or going online as the root user
[07:13] <cyber-hazard> if the program is running as root, it has permissions just like the root user does
[07:13] <K-Ryan> What could they do with it though? o.O
[07:13] <Jucato> it's not about the nick. it's about the (system) user account
[07:13] <cyber-hazard> if someone can comprimise your client (not hard through most IRC clients) then they can do whatever they want
[07:13] <Jucato> K-Ryan: to the knowledgeable? a lot
[07:13] <Daisuke_Ido> and you don't want to go online as the root user (minimize the attack vectors, if you want to be pseudo-technical about it)
[07:13] <cyber-hazard> starts with simple things like opening your cd tray to get a laugh
[07:13] <Jucato> specially if you use port 6667 to connect, which means DCC is enabled
[07:14] <cyber-hazard> ends up with bad things like #rm -rf /
[07:14] <K-Ryan> Could that be why my computer keeps freezing?
[07:14] <Jucato> K-Ryan: heh no
[07:14] <K-Ryan> I mean this isn't my root nick
[07:14] <cyber-hazard> haha
[07:14] <K-Ryan> But
[07:14] <K-Ryan> Every once in a while Kubuntu locks up
[07:14] <LjL> K-Ryan, try to look at it from another point of view - why do you think there exist accounts that are *not* root?
[07:14] <cyber-hazard> K-Ryan: i had problems with Kubuntu my last time I installed like that. actually shelved it for a while cause of it. I reinstalled though and now it's fine. no idea what the issue was
[07:15] <Jucato> K-Ryan: nope. don't develop conspiracy theories :)
[07:15] <K-Ryan> Right now it seems to be fine so I'm okay.
[07:15] <Jucato> K-Ryan: as long as you don't go online as the root user/administrator (sudo, in Ubuntu), you're practically safe
[07:15] <DerPlanlose> Is firestarter a good firewall for kubuntu ???
[07:15] <K-Ryan> So Jucato, don't open IRC through the terminal? =P
[07:15] <LjL> probably DerPlanlose, but for KDE there's alternatives
[07:16] <LjL> !guarddog
[07:16] <ubotu> guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 476 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[07:16] <Jucato> K-Ryan: no... you can launch GUI apps as root with kdesu
[07:16] <DerPlanlose> have i to config iptables for guarddog ?
[07:16] <K-Ryan> I'm not sure I get it, but it's ok
[07:16] <K-Ryan> You can go to bed now =P
[07:16] <blue|palm> I have had a bad experience installing kubuntu, one where i am able to install it succesfully but then it wont boot!!! can anybody assist?
[07:16] <cyber-hazard> K-Ryan: if you'd like, we can discuss in PMs
[07:17] <K-Ryan> bluejpalm are you getting any error?
[07:17] <LjL> K-Ryan: uh? you can open an IRC client from the terminal, and still it's not root, as long as you don't tell it to be
[07:17] <blue|palm> no none at all
[07:17] <LjL> root has nothing much to do with terminals
[07:17] <K-Ryan> Do you have another OS on yoru computer?
[07:17] <blue|palm> it freezes during booting actually
[07:17] <blue|palm> yes
[07:17] <K-Ryan> *your
[07:17] <blue|palm> winxp x64
[07:17] <K-Ryan> Did you install it after installing Kubuntu?
[07:17] <blue|palm> before
[07:17] <DerPlanlose> how could i access my ntfs windows partition ?
[07:17] <blue|palm> i have 2 hdds
[07:17] <cyber-hazard> blue|palm: what part of the boot do you get dropped at?
[07:18] <K-Ryan> DerPlanlose if it is mounted you can read it but can't save on it or change anything.
[07:18] <LjL> blue|palm: could it not be trying to boot the wrong one? check in the BIOS
[07:18] <cyber-hazard> DerPlanlose: do you know which partition the windows is? hda1,2,3?
[07:18] <michaelpo> how do i cd into my ext hdd? cd\media\mobile hdd doesnot work
[07:18] <blue|palm> I get frozen at the blue "kubuntu" text and blue loading bar
[07:18] <blue|palm> it doesnt load at all
[07:18] <DerPlanlose> K-Ryan i cant edit or change enything ? what about my mp3s for example ?
[07:18] <K-Ryan> So you're past picking Windows or Kubuntu?
[07:18] <blue|palm> Grub works properly... and xp boots perfectly fine
[07:18] <K-Ryan> DerPlanlose you can only read it
[07:19] <cyber-hazard> michaelpo: probably something like $sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/external && cd /mnt/external
[07:19] <LjL> blue|palm: hm, at the Grub menu, hit "e" to edit the command line. "e" again, and remove "quiet" and "splash". that way, at least, you should see where it's getting stuck
[07:19] <rodrigo> thanks
[07:19] <DerPlanlose> shit ;-)
[07:19] <blue|palm> thanks
[07:19] <LjL> blue|palm: oh, then "b" to boot
[07:19] <blue|palm> oh ok
[07:19] <DerPlanlose> like kubuntu soo much much better then windows ;-(
[07:19] <cyber-hazard> DerPlanlose: you can still play mp3's
[07:19] <K-Ryan> You just can't edit or delete them.
[07:19] <DerPlanlose> what to do make aonother fat partition for mp3s ?
[07:19] <K-Ryan> Actually, can you delete off NTFS? Didn't try deleting..
[07:19] <cyber-hazard> DerPlanlose: you can also do that
[07:19] <LjL> blue|palm: if it says it can't find the root filesystem, then i guess it got something wrong with your HDs, and it's trying to look for the filesystem in hda while it's really in hdb, or viceversa
[07:19] <pip`> DerPlan, yes isnt it great ?!
[07:20] <blue|palm> one more thing, when i boot into recovery mode... i get straight into a root@desktop command line
[07:20] <Dr_willis> theres support for read/write to ntfs - but theres alwas a risk.
[07:20] <LjL> blue|palm: otherwise... well, make a note of the errors (or the point it gets stuck at), and ask
[07:20] <blue|palm> ok
[07:20] <cyber-hazard> there is a kernel module for editing NTFS that you can compile in
[07:20] <DerPlanlose> yes i had suse before a year but i dont liked it really *G*
[07:20] <cyber-hazard> says it's stable, but I haven't tested it yet
[07:20] <blue|palm> ok thanks guys. ill do that now
[07:20] <Dr_willis> or the FUSE tools for ntfs i hear
[07:20] <LjL> blue|palm: hm, that's right in recovery mode - would seem to rule out the filesystem problem, i think
[07:20] <K-Ryan> DerPlanlose Fat32 works with Windows and Kubuntu so if you want to change back and forth, that's your best bet.
[07:20] <blue|palm> ok
[07:20] <michaelpo> how do i cd into my ext hdd? cd\media\mobilehd does not work
[07:21] <LjL> michaelpo: cd /media/mobilehd
[07:21] <DerPlanlose> K-Ryan ohh that means i need a new/bigger arddsik ;-)
[07:21] <cyber-hazard> michaelpo: is it mounted correctly?
[07:21] <|Daisuke_Ido|> michaelpo: cd /media/mobilehd
[07:21] <DerPlanlose> thx 4 ya help
[07:21] <K-Ryan> Wait
[07:21] <DerPlanlose> ?
[07:21] <K-Ryan> DerPlanlose you can resize partitions through a Live CD
[07:21] <K-Ryan> Add/Remove/Delete/Resize
[07:21] <DerPlanlose> cuz i cant copy the files temporary anywhere
[07:21] <K-Ryan> But if you have extra space you can trim it and paste the mp3's in there
[07:22] <DerPlanlose> yeah but i have at leasst 10gb free and 110gb data ;-)
[07:22] <LjL> !convertfs | DerPlanlose
[07:22] <ubotu> convertfs: in-place filesystem conversion. In component universe, is extra. Version 20050113-1 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 116 kB
[07:22] <DerPlanlose> not 110mp3s ;-(
[07:22] <LjL> (warning, can be dangerous)
[07:22] <cyber-hazard> LjL: wow, never heard of that, that's awesome
[07:22] <DerPlanlose> hehe
[07:22] <michaelpo> |Daisuke_Ido|: actually it is MOBILE HD
[07:22] <DerPlanlose> LjL ill google for it
[07:23] <LjL> cyber-hazard: read the documentation though - it actually *can* be dangerous, not just in the "if-power-goes-out" kind of scenario
[07:23] <michaelpo> bash: cd: /media/MOBILE: No such file or directory
[07:23] <cyber-hazard> LjL: yeah, sounds like something that can be bad. not planning on running out and toying with it in production :P but still a neat little toy
[07:23] <LjL> DerPlanlose, i think almost everything there is to know (i.e. how it works, and that it's dangerous) can be found without any googling
[07:23] <michaelpo> cd /media/MOBILE HD
[07:23] <michaelpo> bash: cd: /media/MOBILE: No such file or directory
[07:23] <cyber-hazard> google = awesome
[07:24] <|Daisuke_Ido|> michaelpo: cd /media/MOBILE\ HD
[07:24] <|Daisuke_Ido|> i think
[07:24] <LjL> yeah
[07:24] <cyber-hazard> michaelpo: spaces aren't allowed
[07:24] <DerPlanlose> LjL hehe
[07:24] <LjL> or cd "/media/MOBILE HD"
[07:24] <cyber-hazard> cd into media and type ls to see what there is
[07:24] <cyber-hazard> then you can always type cd mob and then hit tab
[07:24] <akrus_> hm
[07:24] <cyber-hazard> tab completion is your friend if you don't know the syntax of a directory
[07:24] <akrus_> I'm not able to remove/install python-xlib package
[07:24] <akrus_> it's annoying x_X
[07:24] <LjL> michaelpo: linux filesystems 1) are case sensitive 2) separate directories with /, not \ and 3) the shell doesn't accept filenames with spaces, unless you quote them or escape them
[07:24] <cyber-hazard> akrus_: are you trying to remove or install it?
[07:25] <akrus> cyber-hazard: anything
[07:25] <akrus> it does not install or remove anyway :)
[07:25] <cyber-hazard> akrus: well, you won't be able to remove it if it's not instaleld :P
[07:25] <bxnp> hi everybody i upgraded kde from 3.5.3 to 3.5.5 but now usb automounting is not working anymore anyone encountered this problem
[07:25] <akrus> it's installed
[07:25] <akrus> just it's about to upgrade
[07:25] <akrus> but upgrade does not work as well as remove
[07:25] <DerPlanlose> hmm one more question if i put a folder with programms in /usr/bin 4 example, there is no like in windows a path entry, why didtn it work for folders in bin ?
[07:25] <cyber-hazard> akrus: it might be a dependent of something else
[07:26] <akrus> nah
[07:26] <LjL> DerPlanlose: eh?
[07:26] <akrus> __main__.PyCentralError: package has no field Python-Version
[07:26] <akrus> post-intallation returned error code 1
[07:26] <DerPlanlose> for example /usr/bin/nefolder/programm    if i write programm in the bash i cant execute it
[07:26] <cyber-hazard> akrus: out of my knowledge of ubuntu for the moment, sorry :(
[07:26] <LjL> akrus: is that k3d?
[07:26] <akrus> > /var/cache/apt/archives/python-xlib_0.12-5.1ubuntu2_all.deb
[07:26] <DerPlanlose> only if the programm directly is in the bin folder
[07:27] <DerPlanlose> or i have to cahcne directory first ;-(
[07:27] <cyber-hazard> DerPlanlose: unless you put /usr/bin/nefolder/programm into the path
[07:27] <DerPlanlose> yes but each new folder
[07:27] <DerPlanlose> i have to put in the path ??
[07:27] <cyber-hazard> type $ export PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin/nefolder/programm
[07:27] <cyber-hazard> yeah
[07:27] <DerPlanlose> is there no better way ?
[07:27] <LjL> DerPlanlose: yes. but don't do that.
[07:27] <LjL> DerPlanlose: to start with, you should NEVER put stuff in /usr/bin manually.
[07:27] <cyber-hazard> the path is how the OS knows where to find commands
[07:27] <LjL> use /usr/local/bin, if anything
[07:27] <DerPlanlose> is there no option for working with folders ? ;-P
[07:28] <LjL> and if you want to organize programs by directories (i.e. everything related to a program in one directory), use /opt
[07:28] <DerPlanlose> if i use tools in the terminal i dont wann to switch directorys each time
[07:28] <michaelpo> it works!!! thanks... cd /media/cd MOBILE\ HD/   then wine startportableapps.exe
[07:28] <DerPlanlose> LjL and it works in opt that i could access the programm directly ?
[07:28] <DerPlanlose> sorry for my bad englisch , me is from germany
[07:29] <DerPlanlose> ;-P
[07:29] <K-Ryan> !de
[07:29] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:29] <K-Ryan> If you want
[07:29] <DerPlanlose> nice
[07:29] <DerPlanlose> ;-)
[07:29] <LjL> DerPlanlose: no, not automatically. why don't you, for instance, just create symlinks in a directory that is in the path? still, anyway, you *should not ever* mess with /usr
[07:30] <DerPlanlose> ohh sweet thank you ubotu ;-P
[07:30] <LjL> actually, you should never touch any directory except /home and /etc manually
[07:30] <DerPlanlose> hehe
[07:30] <DerPlanlose> LjL lol why this ?
[07:30] <LjL> DerPlanlose: because /usr is under the control of APT, and it's not supposed to be messed with manually
[07:30] <DerPlanlose> i wondered first time i saw that all folders was hidden
[07:30] <LjL>  /usr/local, on the other hand, is. and so is /opt
[07:31] <DerPlanlose> mkay
[07:31] <LjL> DerPlanlose: yeah, that's as a way to discourage you from touching them. it was a failure anyway - but the fact that you shouldn't touch them remains
[07:31] <bxnp> hi everybody i upgraded kde from 3.5.3 to 3.5.5 but now usb automounting is not working anymore anyone encountered this problem
[07:32] <akrus> nano /var/lib/dpkg/status and the problem is fixed xD
[07:32] <DerPlanlose> could i put kubuntu on usb stick ? how much mb i need for ?
[07:32] <LjL> DerPlanlose: you can. how much space you need, depends...
[07:32] <DerPlanlose> with minimal packets
[07:32] <DerPlanlose> without open office
[07:32] <LjL> at least about 400Mb, for a console-only install
[07:33] <DerPlanlose> just with few tools *G* etwork tools
[07:33] <DerPlanlose> mediaplayer and so on
[07:33] <K-Ryan> Kubuntu takes about 2GB for a normal install if I'm not mistaken
[07:33] <DerPlanlose> no i wanna have kde ** i tried nubuntu.org but its too small *G*
[07:33] <LjL> DerPlanlose: then about 2GB or more, yes
[07:33] <DerPlanlose> wow
[07:33] <cyber-hazard> i wasn't given an option on configuring the install for kubuntu 6.10
[07:33] <cyber-hazard> :(
[07:34] <cyber-hazard> had to go and rip out a bunch of packages on my own after the install
[07:34] <LjL> akrus: i can't find that problem in python-xlib, however i was aware of a problem with the same error in k3d... you might still find some information in the bug report perhaps (and the related ones) - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3d/+bug/64848
[07:34] <K-Ryan> the barrage package is fun =)
[07:34] <DerPlanlose> lol could anybody told me why its so difficult to install vlc in linux ? you need x libs to install all manually takes 30mins to isntall vlc ;-P
[07:35] <LjL> eh?
[07:35] <LjL> i type sudo apt-get install vlc to install vlc
[07:35] <cyber-hazard> haha
[07:35] <DerPlanlose> yes if you wanna install vlc he need very much dependents
[07:35] <LjL> yeah, it surely has dependencies. are you intending to use VLC without X?
[07:35] <Dr_willis> ive never had any issues installing vlc
[07:35] <DerPlanlose> he mean he need this and this and in apt-manager it dont find vlc ???
[07:36] <Dr_willis> !info vlc
[07:36] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[07:36] <Dr_willis> its in 'universe' he needs that repo enabled.
[07:36] <DerPlanlose> yeah but then
[07:36] <DerPlanlose> i need soo much libs
[07:36] <Dr_willis> DerPlanlose,  so....
[07:36] <DerPlanlose> hmm weird
[07:36] <bxnp> !info libhal1
[07:36] <ubotu> libhal1: Hardware Abstraction Layer - shared library. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu17 (edgy), package size 157 kB, installed size 240 kB
[07:36] <LjL> DerPlanlose: you should have 'xlibs' and whatever already installed, unless for some reason you don't have X
[07:36] <LjL> DerPlanlose: what dependencies does it ask for, *exactly*?
[07:36] <DerPlanlose> no x it was about codecs and stuff like that
[07:37] <DerPlanlose> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/graphics/vlc look here
[07:37] <DerPlanlose> all the files
[07:37] <Dr_willis> the win32 codecs will help vlc play more files.
[07:37] <LjL> DerPlanlose: well, you said that... anyway, which dependencies?
[07:37] <LjL> DerPlanlose: no, not really - that's the *complete* list of the dependencies
[07:37] <LjL> i want to know which ones are being installed on *your* system
[07:37] <DerPlanlose> no i dont need all
[07:37] <DerPlanlose> but about 20 ??
[07:38] <LjL> yeah. which ones?
[07:38] <DerPlanlose> dont remember exactly
[07:38] <Dr_willis> I would guess that most of them are allready installed.
[07:38] <Dr_willis> 20 is rather... low actually . :)
[07:38] <DerPlanlose> i wondersd why is dthere no package like in windows the setup exe wich installs all oine deb file or tar.gz
[07:38] <LjL> it would certainly need to install wx and gtk, if it's on a Kubuntu system
[07:38] <LjL> DerPlanlose: ...sorry again?
[07:39] <LjL> you want something more *complicated*? suit yourself
[07:39] <LjL> i'm sure there's a binary on the VLC website
[07:39] <DerPlanlose> hehehe
[07:39] <K-Ryan> Hey guys, why is a nonfree package in Adept for download?
[07:39] <DerPlanlose> now it works after 30mins istnall tiem
[07:39] <Dr_willis> WIndows isent Linux.. and Linux isent windows.
[07:39] <DerPlanlose> yeah and vista suckz
[07:39] <DerPlanlose> ;-P
[07:39] <Dr_willis> the idea of self installing .exe's leads to many many problems.
[07:39] <LjL> DerPlanlose, i really can't understand why you'd rather have something that you download from the web (and then hope it works) rather than just type "apt-get install vlc". it installs dependencies, sure, but that's because they're NEEDED
[07:40] <LjL> it doesn't just installed them to make you wait
[07:40] <Dr_willis> such as every .exe package including libs and stuff that you may allready have installed.. so you end up redownloading the same stuff over and over.
[07:40] <DerPlanlose> yes and i have installed them all manually ;-(
[07:40] <LjL> these are the dependencies it should normally install on a Kubuntu system anyway - http://apt.byethost14.com/?repo=Edgy&arch=x86&package=vlc&have=kubuntu-desktop'
[07:40] <LjL> http://apt.byethost14.com/?repo=Edgy&arch=x86&package=vlc&have=kubuntu-desktop that is
[07:40] <K-Ryan> !bsdgames-nonfree
[07:40] <ubotu> bsdgames-nonfree: rogue, the classic dungeon exploration game. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.17-1 (edgy), package size 127 kB, installed size 300 kB
[07:40] <LjL> total size, 12 megs. obviously, that'll be mostly due to the GTK libraries i suppose
[07:40] <K-Ryan> Guys, why would that be availible for download?
[07:40] <paulcarpenter> why is that such a problem?
[07:41] <LjL> DerPlanlose: manually..?
[07:41] <LjL> why manually?
[07:41] <paulcarpenter> the multiverse is meant to have non-free pakages in it.
[07:41] <K-Ryan> But isn't that illegal? Downloading something that isn't free for free?
[07:41] <DerPlanlose> hrhr
[07:41] <paulcarpenter> no
[07:41] <LjL> Ubotu, tell K-Ryan about free | K-Ryan, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:41] <LjL> "non-free" doesn't mean "non gratis"
[07:41] <DerPlanlose> i have to go , thnak you guys for ya help
[07:42] <LjL> DerPlanlose, come back when you want to get a clue how the packaging system works - i don't think you've quite got it. especially if you installed the VLC dependencies manually.
[07:42] <Dr_willis> its non-gpl