[00:03] <GunnDawg> if I dont format my /home partition when installing 15.04 I can retain all the data in there, correct?
[00:08] <valorie> yes
[00:08] <valorie> of course you should still backup before installing
[00:09] <valorie> as insurance
[00:09] <GunnDawg> valorie: of course.
[00:09] <valorie> well, I didn't do that last time
[00:09] <valorie> to my regret
[00:09] <valorie> Stuff Happened
[00:10] <GunnDawg> :(
[00:10] <GunnDawg> gotta hate when "stuff happens"
[00:10] <valorie> I had had too much good luck in the past I guess
[00:10] <valorie> sometimes Reality bops you on the head, just to wake you up
[00:11] <GunnDawg> I preach regular backups to my customers. I'm a shop tech here at a local repair shop
[00:11] <GunnDawg> they usually blow my advice off then when their HDD crashes they act like its my fault that they lost all their precious photos, etc
[00:20] <ygvtfc> "starting verision 219" how to rid this?
[00:20] <valorie> ygvtfc: does it eventually go away?
[00:21] <valorie> if not, alt+ctl+f2 or so, `systemctl restore sddm`
[00:21] <valorie> and then it may make you login again to start x
[00:21] <valorie> once I even had to `startx`
[00:26] <nfk|laptop> it was permissions
[00:27] <nfk|laptop> did chown -R me:me /home/me/ and it worked
[00:27] <nfk|laptop> though only few/one places were affected
[01:23] <nfk> night
[01:23] <denza252> night
[01:50] <Etriaph> Wow, Breeze Dark is really dark.  :D
[01:51] <valorie> just dark enough
[01:52] <valorie> imo
[01:52] <Etriaph> I wish Konversation had a method of saving schemas.
[01:53] <GunnDawg> I prefer dark themes. I'll be installing tonight
[01:55] <Etriaph> https://www.dropbox.com/s/tagn50fwp0f1qma/breeze_dark.png?dl=0
[01:58] <valorie> konvi will just use whatever you choose in KDE
[01:58] <valorie> most KDE applications do that
[01:58] <valorie> you can lighten the background
[01:58] <valorie> Settings > configure Konvi
[02:00] <Etriaph> Konversation has it's own dialog for colours.
[02:01] <valorie> yes
[02:33] <BassFace> how to i use a LiveCD of Precise if it stops when looking for B43 firmware
[02:34] <BassFace> I'm on a PowerPC ibook g4
[02:36] <valorie> !precise
[02:36] <valorie> yep, still supported
[02:36] <valorie> seems so long ago
[02:52] <Etriaph> :)
[02:53] <Etriaph> I've been running Linux and KDE since RedHat Manhattan
[05:26] <GunnDawg> Has anyone had plasma not launch after reboot? after logging in it boots to a black screen, cant do anything
[05:27] <GunnDawg> no task bar, nothing
[05:27] <valorie> GunnDawg: did sddm etc start up as usual?
[05:27] <GunnDawg> valorie: I'm not sure
[05:28] <valorie> ?
[05:28] <GunnDawg> valorie: I dont know what sddm is, and I have nothing but a black screen, not sure how to check
[05:28] <valorie> you logged in
[05:28] <GunnDawg> yes I logged in
[05:28] <valorie> sorry, I missed that
[05:28] <valorie> what happens when you try to start plasma up?
[05:28] <GunnDawg> how do I do that?
[05:29] <valorie> just `plasmashell &` I believe
[05:29] <GunnDawg> plasmashell &
[05:29] <GunnDawg> [1] 1813
[05:29] <GunnDawg> gunndawg@GunnDawgsPC:~$ kf5.kiconthemes: "Theme tree: (Breeze)"
[05:29] <GunnDawg> but does nothing else
[05:30] <valorie> yikes
[05:30] <valorie> well, I would ask for more expert help in #plasma
[05:53] <mydoghasworms> I want to upgrade to 15.04, but want to start with a clean KDE setup. What files should I delete/copy?
[05:56] <valorie> maybe rename ~/.kde ?
[05:57] <Unit193> I'd think there'd be files in .cache and .config as well.
[05:57] <valorie> most stuff will be in ~/.config or ~/.local now though
[05:57] <valorie> does .cache stick around through an upgrade though?
[05:57] <valorie> I would think that would be purged
[05:57] <valorie> but what do I know
[05:59] <anoop> https://bugs.launchpad.net/appmenu-qt5/+bug/1434516
[06:00] <valorie> strange, anoop
[06:01]  * valorie goes away to start backing up
[06:05] <anoop> valorie: Yes of-course
[06:07] <anoop> After beta 1, I noticed it. And went back to normal after uninstalling "appmenu-qt5"
[06:07] <anoop> it re-appeared again now, "Breeze" is missing from qtconfig-qt4
[06:13] <mydoghasworms> valorie: I have a separate /home partition, so it is not really an upgrade, but a clean install, but obviously I still have many config files in my home directory.
[06:23] <hyper_ch> hmmm, still can't set desktop to folder view permanently.... after reboot it's back to default one
[06:25] <hyper_ch> btw, 15.04 still has virt desktops, right?
[06:26] <jlotonah_> probably
[06:26] <hyper_ch> can't figure out where to enable that or rather set to two desktops
[06:27] <jlotonah_> configuration panel
[06:27] <jlotonah_> desktop behaviour/virtual desktops
[06:27] <hyper_ch> which configuration panel?
[06:27] <jlotonah_> settings
[06:27] <jlotonah_> system preferences
[06:28] <hyper_ch> ah ok
[06:28] <jlotonah_> yes you can use virtual desktops
[06:28] <hyper_ch> jlotonah_: thx :)
[06:28] <jlotonah_> :)
[06:29] <hyper_ch> 5 annoying issues left
[06:30] <hyper_ch> s/5/6/
[06:32] <hyper_ch> 7
[06:34] <hyper_ch> my locales are a huge mess....
[06:48] <hyper_ch> so, found another issue
 so, found another issue. Someone who has used every version of Plasma 5.0, 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3 this sounds very familiar.
[06:54] <donniezazen> valorie: Plasma 5 uses XDG standards. Renaming, removing ~/.kde won't do anything to Plamsa 5. Everything now goes in standard folders like ~/.cache, ~/config, etc.
[06:55] <hyper_ch> donniezazen: my current issues are:  error message due to raid when booting up - prolongs booting,  can't use attached wireless usb keyboard to enter dm-crypt password need to use notebook keyboard,  plasma desktop always reverts back to default instead of showing folder view after reboot, locale problems.... terminal for some reason is german instead of english and desktop uses US time/date instead of Swiss despite having that explicitely set...
[06:55] <hyper_ch> . when set desktop to folder view I can't shift-delete items on it anymore,  konsole freezes when resizing,  in the kmenu item editor you can't browse for custom icons
[06:56] <hyper_ch> forgot one issue:  in kontact, the folder list has massive spacing between the items despite having changed to oxygen theme
[06:57] <donniezazen> hyper_ch: did you upgrade your system
[06:57] <hyper_ch> donniezazen: no, vanilla install
[06:58] <donniezazen> hyper_ch: I can tell you about Kontact. Initially the spacing was outrageous which they reduced a bit. This is now standards in Breeze theme. Lots of whitespace.
[06:58] <PhilippeP> After dist-upgrading yesterday , i am once again shut out of graphical environment , it won't accept my password ... everything works fine in a tty ...
[06:59] <hyper_ch> well, krop's spacing:  https://i.imgur.com/6fMknNE.png  and my spacing: http://images.sjau.ch/img/0223aedb.png
[06:59] <hyper_ch> donniezazen: and as said, using oxygen theme and style
[07:00] <donniezazen> hyper_ch: about kontact let me pull some links for you where discussion happened a while ago.
[07:00] <hyper_ch> before I had all folders visible
[07:00] <hyper_ch> which is nice since I do server side filtering with sieve
[07:01] <hyper_ch> no, I need to scroll to check if there's new mail somewhere
[07:02] <donniezazen> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=123715
[07:02] <donniezazen> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=123561
[07:02] <donniezazen> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340999
[07:03] <donniezazen> If you are using Oxygen style I would hope the spacing should not be too bad.
[07:03] <hyper_ch> donniezazen: the image I showed you uses oxygen
[07:03] <donniezazen> yes I can see that
[07:04] <donniezazen> you are right.
[07:04] <hyper_ch> https://i.imgur.com/6fMknNE.png and that's how it was also for me on 14.10
[07:04] <hyper_ch> it uses 50% more space
[07:04] <hyper_ch> why can't you configure the spacing :)
[07:05] <donniezazen> When you right click on the top of list you can set icon size. From looks of it you are already using the smallest icon possible.
[07:05] <hyper_ch> yes
[07:05] <hyper_ch> and I reduced font from 10pt to 9pt which helped a bit
[07:06] <hyper_ch> but reducing font further doesn't alter anything
[07:07] <donniezazen> you should make a comment on this thread https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=123715
[07:09] <gunndawg> any fixes for screen tearing with Nvidia using 346 drivers? The fix I used in 14.04 completely breaks my system.
[07:10] <hyper_ch> donniezazen: http://images.sjau.ch/img/1a21641c.png
[07:10] <hyper_ch> that should be the settings
[07:11] <hyper_ch> or did I miss anything?
[07:13] <hateball> gunndawg: What sort of tearing do you get?
[07:13] <gunndawg> hateball: screen tearing
[07:13] <gunndawg> had it worked out in 14.04 but the same fix in 15.04 does not work, infact it prevents Plasma from starting
[07:13] <hateball> gunndawg: Well yeah. But is it constant, or is it during fullscreen video or gaming?
[07:14] <gunndawg> consistant
[07:14] <hateball> gunndawg: Have you gone into "desktop effects" and tried changing from automatic to something else?
[07:14] <donniezazen> hyper_ch: my understanding is that you can't set spacing. It is hard coded. So while changing icons size or font of list items could help but won't be enough. I think Oxygen should not be affected which it is, in your case
[07:14] <gunndawg> if I run the screen tearing test on youtube it's obvious as it was in 14.04. I fixed it then ran the same test and it fixed it
[07:14] <gunndawg> hateball: no I have not, shall i?
[07:14] <hateball> gunndawg: Yes. Under advanced
[07:14] <hyper_ch> donniezazen: where to report that the best?
[07:15] <hateball> gunndawg: There's a bug on this, I'll see if I can find it
[07:15] <hateball> gunndawg: Note that it may hurt performance a bit, but you can tick "disable effects for fullscreen" and if you game then they will handle vsync etc themselves. Seems to work for me at least
[07:15] <gunndawg> hateball: I'm in Desktop Effects and I see no advanced menu
[07:15] <hateball> gunndawg: You should have a tab up top
[07:16] <gunndawg> hateball: I'm in 15.04 and I see no tab
[07:16] <donniezazen> hyper_ch: maybe talk to Andrew Lake in this thread https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=123715 or file a bug.
[07:17] <hateball> gunndawg: Hmmm, well I am sitting on 14.04 right now. Search for "opengl" in krunner, maybe it changed places in 15.04 (I run it at home, just cant remember)
[07:17] <hyper_ch> donniezazen: well, I have set to oxygen and it shouldn't use that much space anymore... I still wonder why it does
[07:17] <gunndawg> hateball: I ran 14.04 until tonight so I know what you're saying, but it's not there
[07:18] <hateball> gunndawg: Well it does exist in 15.04, since I had to change it myself :p
[07:18] <gunndawg> hateball: not sure where its at. looking for it
[07:18] <gunndawg> hateball: deff not in desktop effects
[07:20] <gunndawg> hateball: when I search OpenGL it hilights Desktop Effects. But I dont see it. Can I provide a screenshot?
[07:21] <hateball> gunndawg: Sure, upload it to imgur or something. I still dont have access to a 15.04 machine so I can find it tho
[07:21] <gunndawg> will do
[07:22] <gunndawg> hateball: http://i.imgur.com/h2vnGID.jpg
[07:22] <hateball> gunndawg: when you search for desktop effects in krunner, dont you also get a standalone desktop effects?
[07:22] <hateball> not this one that is "integrated" with the other options
[07:23] <gunndawg> what is krunner?
[07:23] <hateball> alt+f2 by default
[07:23] <hateball> aka the only way to find anything ;D
[07:24] <gunndawg> hateball: gotcha. OpenGL settings open
[07:24] <gunndawg> hateball: now what was it you wanted me to do from here?
[07:25] <hateball> gunndawg: right, you should have vsync options that probably are automatic now
[07:26] <gunndawg> hateball: I'm not seeing vsync anywhere
[07:26] <hyper_ch> donniezazen: under what should I file the bug?
[07:26] <hateball> gunndawg: there should be a "prevent tearing" option
[07:27] <gunndawg> hateball: I'm going to give you another screenshot
[07:27] <hateball> gunndawg: do so, I'll grab a 15.04 iso and make a bootable stick during ;p
[07:28] <gunndawg> hateball: http://i.imgur.com/ptJlIL0.jpg
[07:29] <hateball> gunndawg: oh, no that's not it
[07:30] <hateball> that just shows information
[07:30] <gunndawg> hateball: I figured as much
[07:30] <gunndawg> hateball: I know which OpenGL settings your talking about that were available in 14.04, Not finding them in 15.04
[07:31] <hateball> gunndawg: If you're not leaving just yet I'll have 15.04 bootable in a bit and I'll see where it is
[07:31] <gunndawg> I'll be here another few hours
[07:32] <gunndawg> hateball: Infact I'll be here until this gets corrected :(
[07:32] <hyper_ch> donniezazen: made now a bug report
[07:37] <hyper_ch> donniezazen: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346533
[07:37] <zen_foo> sigh.. so I did an upgrade today from 14.10 to 15.04 and it's a bit buggy, then I noticed it says I'm on a development branch... how did that happen?
[07:38] <zen_foo> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu Vivid Vervet (development branch)"
[07:38] <hyper_ch> zen_foo: it's a bit buggy even on a vanilla install
[07:39] <valorie> zen_foo: what PPAs do you have enabled?
[07:39] <zen_foo> none
[07:40] <valorie> zen_foo: where are you finding that text?
[07:41] <zen_foo> grep DESCRIPTION /etc/lsb-release
[07:41] <valorie> I upgraded to day, and my About System looks fine
[07:41] <valorie> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 15.04"
[07:42] <valorie> zen_foo: have you done updates and upgrades today?
[07:42] <valorie> the description never has the code name after release
[07:42] <valorie> there is no development branch yet
[07:42] <zen_foo> just the upgrade today from 14.10
[07:43] <valorie> try: `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[07:43] <valorie> I think you missed a couple of the final packages
[07:43] <zen_foo> oy.. that seems ot have found a bunch
[07:44]  * zen_foo scratches his head.... so odd
[07:44] <valorie> perhaps you hit a mirror not done updating
[07:45] <zen_foo> that could be... but it might be a good idea for the update script to check that it's trying to install the release version that it prompts for
[07:47] <valorie> you did `do-release-upgrade`?
[07:47] <zen_foo> yes
[07:48] <valorie> I dunno
[07:48] <zen_foo> (shrug) me neither
[07:48] <valorie> I used the beta this time around
[07:48] <zen_foo> looks like it might be sorted now
[07:48] <hateball> gunndawg: it's under "compositing"
[07:48] <hateball> gunndawg: which should show as an option if you search for opengl
[07:49] <gunndawg> hateball: I'll look
[07:49] <zen_foo> I enjoy doing the beta's, just not on my main system that I need to actually do work on :D
[07:49] <gunndawg> hateball: I see it. I'm in that menu now
[07:50] <zen_foo> KDE is so darn purrty now
[07:50] <gunndawg> hateball: "Tearing prevention" is already set to Automatic
[07:51] <hateball> gunndawg: Yes. You don't want that
[07:52] <gunndawg> what do I want
[07:52] <hateball> you can try either of them, I use the "reuse blah blah" with proprietary driver
[07:52] <hateball> you can just switch, apply, test it out
[07:53] <hateball> and tick the box to disable effects for fullscreen
[07:53] <hateball> well, you can try that option on/off... sometimes things misbehave
[07:54] <gunndawg> hateball: oddly enough I changed OpenGL from 2.0 to 3.1 and it fixed it. didnt fuss with any other settings
[07:54] <gunndawg> hateball: left it on automatic and changed to openGL 3.1, fixed
[07:55] <hateball> gunndawg: well then :)
[07:55] <gunndawg> hateball: Thank you so very kindly for ur patience and help :)
[07:55] <hateball> gunndawg: No worries :)
[07:56] <gunndawg> sorry you had to boot up a 15.04 image just for that
[07:56] <hateball> Haha that's fine
[07:56] <gunndawg> but it made a world of difference for me :)
[07:56] <hateball> I'm at work, what else am I supposed to do? Work?
[07:56] <gunndawg> no, dont do that
[07:57] <gunndawg> hateball: The fix I used to correct the tearing in 14.04 completely breaks Plasma
[07:57] <gunndawg> hateball: I installed 15.04 like 5 times tonight
[07:57] <hateball> Heh
[07:57] <hateball> I've never used anything other than the options in plasma to fix tearing
[07:57] <hateball> I'm assuming you tried various xorg.confs or setting __GL_Whatever env options?
[07:58] <gunndawg> hateball: in 14.04 I had to do this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1374976
[07:58] <gunndawg> create a Tearhing.sh file that I made executable with that line
[07:58] <gunndawg> do that in plasma and it breaks
[07:59] <gunndawg> hateball: yes the GL setting breaks plama apparently
[07:59] <gunndawg> __GL_YIELD="USLEEP"
[08:02] <rohan> hi. i upgraded from 14.10 to 15.04 today, and it was fine for some time.. but now my keyboard has stopped working at the login screen
[08:02] <rohan> so i can't login at all :( even ctrl-alt-f1 is not working, so i can't switch to a VT
[08:02] <rohan> only the alt-sysrq combos work
[08:02] <rohan> i've tried a few reboots and cold boots, but that didn't help
[08:04] <gunndawg> brb need a reboot
[08:04] <zen_foo> someone correct me if IO'm wrong butisn't Alt-F1 the new AlLT-F7? try ALT-F2 rohan
[08:05] <rohan> zen_foo: nope, no dice: doesn't work
[08:05] <zen_foo> have you unplugged and plugged you keyboard back in after you booted... I thought I heard something about a few people having an issue like that
[08:06] <rohan> zen_foo: it's a laptop
[08:07] <zen_foo> lol... well then that would present some trouble trying to do that
[08:07] <gunndawg> back
[08:07] <rohan> zen_foo: yup :(
[08:08] <gunndawg> hateball: my next goal in setting up 15.04 is getting my login screen fixed
[08:08] <gunndawg> hateball: if you're wanting to dig in some more help I'll fill you in on the details
[08:09] <hateball> gunndawg: Well just state your problem so anyone can try and help :)
[08:09] <gunndawg> sure
[08:09] <gunndawg> When the login screen comes up the password box is dead in the center of the gap between my 2 monitors as though it thinks its one monitor
[08:09] <gunndawg> instead of showing up in 1 monitor
[08:10] <hateball> Ah. This is a clean install using SSDM is it?
[08:10] <gunndawg> hateball: not sure what you mean. It's a clean 15.04 install
[08:10] <hateball> I don't have any dualmonitor setups on 15.04/SSDM so I cant say
[08:10] <hateball> gunndawg: Well the login manager is called SSDM
[08:10] <hateball> as opposed to KDM or LightDM of the past
[08:10] <gunndawg> I've heard the term SSDM more than once tonight. what is SSDM
[08:11] <zen_foo> gunndawg: same thing here, I haven't gotten around to looking into it yet
[08:11] <gunndawg> zen_foo: so you have ur login box split between monitors?
[08:11] <zen_foo> yes
[08:11] <gunndawg> zen_foo: annoying eh?
[08:12] <zen_foo> meh, compared to bugs that crash things, no... but not exactly estheticly pleasing that I can show off my desktop to people and try to convert them
[08:12] <gunndawg> zen_foo: exactly
[08:13] <gunndawg> Not game breaking but enough to bug ya
[08:14] <zen_foo> brb reboot
[08:14] <rohan> hateball: you mean SDDM
[08:14] <rohan> not SSDM
[08:15] <hateball> rohan: I do
[08:15] <rohan> which is being a PITA and not accepting my text input any more :(
[08:15] <gunndawg> What is SDDM?
[08:18] <zen_foo> hah, compositing crash bug still there :(
[08:20] <gunndawg> I sure do miss my Ghost Deco theme.
[08:21] <lordievader> gunndawg: SDDM is a display manager, like lightdm or gdm.
[08:21] <lordievader> Good morning by the by.
[08:21] <gunndawg> lordievader: hello, and thank you
[08:21] <gunndawg> by the way* ;)\
[08:21] <gunndawg> way*
[08:21] <zen_foo> gunndawg: might be an issue with the login theme  https://github.com/sddm/sddm/issues/265
[08:22] <gunndawg> zen_foo: an issue with the "DEFAULT" login theme?
[08:22] <zen_foo> yes... trying to find a different theme to try
[08:22] <gunndawg> zen_foo: please update me with your results
[08:25] <gunndawg> hateball: all of a sudden having screen tearing again
[08:27] <yossarianuk> gunndawg: my login is split between 2 monitors alos (nvidia)
[08:27] <gunndawg> hateball: just applied your solution and i'm good again, heh
[08:27] <gunndawg> yossarianuk: aye, so Im not alone in that issue
[08:28] <yossarianuk> gunndawg: nope - do you have Nvidia ?
[08:28] <gunndawg> yossarianuk: yes, with the 346 drivers
[08:28] <uberdub> the update every other day or so are getting skightly annoying
[08:28] <yossarianuk> (p.s kde 5.3 seems to solve that - I installed the beta PPA)
[08:29] <yossarianuk> --> same here (driver version)
[08:32] <zen_foo> brb
[08:34] <zen_foo> gunndawg: yup that's the issue
[08:35] <zen_foo> apt-cache search sddm-theme
[08:35] <zen_foo> ^^install one or more of those other ones and the login appears fine
[08:36] <zen_foo> so install then go to system settings  -> Starup and Shutdown  -> Loing Screen (SDDM)
[08:36] <zen_foo> and change it to something other than the breeze one
[08:36] <thor_> hi
[08:37] <gunndawg> zen_foo: hang on let me look
[08:38] <thor_> Has anybody idea why in my 14.13 install Muon won't show the upgrade to 15.04 option?
[08:38] <thor_> At home with my (I think) 14.10 everything worked easy enough
[08:38] <gunndawg> zen_foo: which one did you install? which one looks good?
[08:38] <zen_foo> maldives and maui look good
[08:39] <lordievader> thor_: 14.13?
[08:39] <gunndawg> zen_foo: so how do I install them? what's the command
[08:39] <zen_foo> Circles is kinda lame and elarun is meh
[08:39] <Zverenhoff> Hello everybody.
[08:39] <zen_foo> sudo apt-get install sddm-theme-maldives sddm-theme-maui
[08:40] <Zverenhoff> I have one question. It seems like in Kubuntu 15.04 there is no kwin oxygen style.
[08:40] <thor_> Yep, at least that's the version that's shown when I click "About KDE" in Kate
[08:40] <Zverenhoff> Is it a bug or should it be so?
[08:40] <lordievader> thor_: Ah, what does 'lsb_release -a' say?
[08:40] <gunndawg> alright gonna test
[08:41] <lordievader> Zverenhoff: Plasma5 uses the breeze theme by default.
[08:41] <lordievader> I thought there was some Oxygen theme available for Plasma5 though.
[08:41] <thor_> lordievader: No LSB modules are available.
[08:41] <Zverenhoff> There is Oxygen theme for qt5,qt4,plasma itself, but not for KWin
[08:41] <thor_> Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Release:        14.04 Codename:       trusty
[08:42] <thor_> Ah sorry, stupid. It's KDE version 14.13.
[08:42] <thor_> Still, at home the upgrade came automatically. At work nothing shows
[08:42] <lordievader> thor_: You need to set the upgrade settings to normal then upgrade to 14.10 and then to 15.04. Trusty looks for LTS releases by default.
[08:43] <zen_foo> yes, you can't jump releases, so you have to upgrade to 14.10 first then upgrade again to get 15.04
[08:43] <gunndawg> that worked
[08:43] <gunndawg> but still have a problem
[08:43] <zen_foo> don't we all :D
[08:43] <thor_> Where can I set the upgrade settings?
[08:44] <gunndawg> zen_foo: the login screen shows up on my 2nd monitor instead of the primary
[08:44] <lordievader> thor_: Somewhere in Muon, I thing.
[08:44] <zen_foo> nvidia?
[08:44] <thor_> Looked and didn't find. Will Google and see.
[08:44] <gunndawg> zen_foo: yes, like you, 346 drivers
[08:44] <lordievader> thor_: Or editing /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[08:45] <zen_foo> what I did was set the primary in both the nvidia settings panel and in the kde system settings
[08:46] <gunndawg> zen_foo: I'll try
[08:46] <thor_> lordievader: Thanks a lot, this seems to work. Muon show new release now.
[08:47] <gunndawg> zen_foo: seems that's already the case
[08:47] <zen_foo> gunndawg: do you have the system settings set to say "this one is left of (or right of) the other"?
[08:48] <zen_foo> my primary is on the right so I had to do that
[08:48] <bart___> hi guys, just upgraded to 15.04.... seems good, but where have the wacom settings gone to?
[08:48] <gunndawg> zen_foo: yes
[08:49] <zen_foo> hmmm
[08:51] <gunndawg> zen_foo: http://i.imgur.com/FE8myuw.png
[08:52] <gunndawg> zen_foo: not sure how much info that provides
[08:55] <lordievader> gunndawg: Does the Nvidia driver still write an xorg.conf?
[08:56] <zen_foo> gunndawg: that looks right.. hrm
[08:57] <gunndawg> lordievader: I believe so. How can I check
[08:58] <lordievader> ls /etc/X11
[08:58] <lordievader> Was just wondering, not helping ;)
[08:59] <gunndawg> alright
[08:59] <gunndawg> I have an xorg.conf in /x11
[09:00] <lordievader> Pff.. nVidia...
[09:01] <gunndawg> an $800 video card that wont cook me breakfast I was fine with, but I hoped it would display things on the corrector monitor
[09:01]  * lordievader mumbles something about nVidia and Nouveau
[09:02] <zen_foo> well, if you overclock it and play the right kinda game you could probably cook an egg
[09:03] <lordievader> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Unfriendly-OSS-Hardware
[09:03] <gunndawg> I tried "sudo please fucking put login screen on the left screen"
[09:04] <gunndawg> didnt work
[09:04] <s_20> http://www.phys.ncku.edu.tw/~htsu/humor/fry_egg.html - it never gets old
[09:05] <lordievader> gunndawg: Please watch your language.
[09:05] <gunndawg> lordievader: I appologize
[09:07] <gunndawg> so changing the login screen theme corrected the centering, but what can correct the correct display?
[09:07] <zen_foo> you know what it might be...
[09:08] <zen_foo> it might be that that new theme has that side hardcoded
[09:09] <lordievader> gunndawg: I wrote part of an xorg.conf to setup my three displays correctly for lightdm.
[09:09] <gunndawg> I cant imagine they'd hard code in "2nd display login"
[09:24] <gunndawg> hateball: screen tearing is back :(
[09:24] <hateball> gunndawg: after reboots?
[09:25] <gunndawg> hateball: yes
[09:25] <hateball> go into options and re-apply
[09:25] <hateball> there's a bug for it... somewhere
[09:25] <gunndawg> hateball: is this something I'll have to do every restart?
[09:25] <hateball> so you can make a script that forces it on session start
[09:25] <hateball> gunndawg: iirc it works for me, but I know there is a bug for it
[09:27] <gunndawg> hateball: weird thing is that it was still on the setting I put it at, changed it do a differnt one and it works
[09:27] <hateball> Yes
[09:28] <soee> gunndawg: screen tearing with nvidia driver >
[09:28] <gunndawg> so I'll have to boot up (I dont shut down often), and change it to a diff setting, and be good
[09:28] <soee> ?
[09:28] <gunndawg> soee: yes
[09:28] <soee> gunndawg: you wont get rid of it completely :/
[09:29] <hateball> gunndawg: yeah, but there's a cli way to set it so you can automate it. I just dont recall the bug number etc
[09:29] <hateball> if I remember I'll check it when I get back home in a bunch of hours
[09:29] <gunndawg> in 14.04 it was easy
[09:29] <gunndawg> new territory I guess
[09:30] <soee> gunndawg: first in System Settings  -> Dispay And MOntor -> Compositor: Tearing Prevention ('vsync') set "Full Screen Repaints"
[09:31] <gunndawg> soee: I just did that. Everything is GOOD now. when I restart it might change
[09:31] <soee> gunndawg: i have also executable file called /etc/profile.d/tearing.sh
[09:31] <soee> with a line: export __GL_YIELD="USLEEP"
[09:31] <hateball> ;|
[09:32] <soee> gunndawg: do ypu play games ?
[09:32] <gunndawg> soee: I tried that tearing.sh fix and it broke my Plasma entirely. After I logged in I had black screen
[09:32] <soee> gunndawg: it shouldn't :)
[09:33] <gunndawg> soee: It did, I reintalled and tried it again, it broke, so I reinstalled and didnt do it, now I boot fine
[09:33] <gunndawg> dont want to risk it again, it broke my Plasma
[09:33] <soee> gunndawg: anyway if you plan to play some games, be sure to check in this syste settings also: Suspend compositor for fullscreen windows
[09:34] <gunndawg> soee: and I was only doing that to fix the tearing, the tearing is fixed now. I am dealing with a new issue.
[09:34] <soee> otherwise you will expriance something like tearing + low fps feelig + ^$^%@
[09:34] <gunndawg> soee: This is my gaming rig.
[09:44] <yruss_> Hi. Where can i adjust loading sequence after i log in? My problem - kubuntu is connecting WiFi and doing 1000 stupid things before actucally it loads plasma-desktop which is really annoying.
[09:45] <soee> yruss_: like brings back apps from previous session befor panel is loaded etc ?
[09:46] <Walex> yruss_: not so easy, there are several loading sequences potentially
[09:46] <yruss_> soee: No it starts an empty one - but there are some apps that loading before desktop
[09:47] <Walex> yruss_: the two main loading sequences are in your '~/.xsession' scripts, in the global and per-user 'autostart' directories, and in your session manager saved state.
[09:50] <yruss_> Walex: i can see only .xsession-errors fie, autostart is empty
[10:01] <Walex> yruss_: there are both global and per user 'xsession' and 'autostart', and 'autostart' is also both KDE and XDG variants. Plus again the session manager list
[10:21] <memphisto> Hello
[10:23] <memphisto> I need help with my 3Gmodem  - Bus 003 Device 004: ID 19d2:0017 ZTE WCDMA Technologies MSM
[10:23] <hateball> memphisto: In what way do you need help?
[10:23] <memphisto> although  i see it with lsub and in syslog as qmi_wwan 3-2:1.3: cdc-wdm1: USB WDM device
[10:24] <memphisto> kde network manager cant see it
[10:24] <memphisto> when i try to add new broadband device, it doesn't list it
[10:24] <memphisto> hi hateball
[10:24] <memphisto> thanks for answering
[10:26] <memphisto> when you go to Connnection editor >>Add>> Mobile Broadband connection
[10:26] <memphisto> it asks you to choose your device
[10:26] <hateball> memphisto: Just trying to some details for others to help, I know nothing of such dongles tho
[10:27] <memphisto> but instead of my ZTE  modem it states Any GSM device and  Any CMDA device
[10:27] <memphisto> ok. thanks anyway
[10:29] <hyper_ch> Is it just me or is also the window properties detection fooled in 5.3? There seems to be a 56px offset
[10:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:37] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: why can I report plasma bugs?
[10:40] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, click on dolphin help, report bugs then choose the app in the dropdown
[10:41] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: then I get directed to the bugs site and get told I can't make a bug report for plasma
[10:42] <hyper_ch> https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided&product=plasma&component=desktop&version=unknown  -->  Sorry, either the product plasma does not exist or you aren't authorized to enter a bug into it.
[10:42] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, then report it in #kubuntu-devel
[10:44]  * hyper_ch heard that normal users get eaten in -devel channels
[10:44] <BluesKaj> not this one
[10:45] <hyper_ch> :)
[10:45] <BluesKaj> you must have patience tho
[10:46] <hyper_ch> well, seems somebody isn't on lunch break in there
[10:48] <yossarianuk> ok im confused ......
[10:48] <yossarianuk> just read - https://plus.google.com/u/0/+WillCooke/posts/AxfoU3N1Ezo
[10:48] <yossarianuk> does this mean Ubuntu 15.10 is abandoning DEB based ?
[10:50] <yossarianuk> and if it is how will this effect kubuntu?
[10:51] <yossarianuk> or am I completely misunderstanding everything?
[10:55] <memphisto> regarding the issue with ZTE  GSP modem --- i've isntalled following usb-modeswitch modemmanager kppp and now it works.
[10:55] <memphisto> Best Regards
[10:58] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, the blogger mistates the issue, don't think he meant that deb was going away, just replaced by a new version, that's what I got from it
[10:59] <yossarianuk> ok - thanks
[11:07] <yossarianuk> DEB based in one of the really good plus points  - although ill be interested to see snappy...
[11:14] <mouwze> can kde 5 desktop be installed on kubuntu 14.04
[11:15] <soee> mouwze: no
[11:15] <mouwze> thank you
[11:17] <BluesKaj> mouwze, you can install plsama 5/KF5 on kubuntu 14.10, however.
[11:18] <BluesKaj> err plasma
[11:20] <soee> BluesKaj: yes but since 14.10 is not LTS its better to jump to 15.04 i think
[11:20] <soee> than you can be sure Plasma 5.3 will work just fine :)
[11:25] <BluesKaj> soee, is 5.3 default on 15.04? ...it worked ok on my upgrade from 14.10 , but the ppa didn't work on this clean install at all...had to dump my /home data because some conf files were configured wrong
[11:26] <BluesKaj> in oerder to re-install 15.04 official release image'
[11:26] <BluesKaj> X was totally mucked up
[11:27] <soee> BluesKaj: it is not default
[11:27] <BluesKaj> ok soee, thanks
[11:27] <soee> i use unfnished 5.3 final packages and tey work pretty good
[11:28] <BluesKaj> yeah i have it on the other HDD...works ok
[11:28] <BluesKaj> but not htis one ...it was weird
[11:29] <BluesKaj> same pc .. 2 different HDDS , 2 different results
[11:29] <BluesKaj> same ppa
[11:31] <BluesKaj> I'm waiting for the 15.10 chainloader on this install ..I'll start testing on this one
[11:36] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: 15.10 chainloader?
[11:49] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, it's a preliminary repos for 15.10 ..it usually doesn't contain a lot of new packages, just a few to get the testing started afaik
[11:49] <Tsterxer> Ho
[11:49] <Tsterxer> Hi people
[11:49] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: I see
[11:49] <Tsterxer> Is network mirror recommend?
[11:50] <Riddell> hyper_ch: could you report a bug on the bug dialog issue? I can work on a fix, product is frameworks-kxmlgui
[11:50] <hyper_ch> Riddell: hmmm, I can I think :)
[11:51] <hyper_ch> but what package would that be
[11:52] <BluesKaj> Tsterxer, which mirror ?
[11:52] <Tsterxer> It's not related to Kubuntu but i struggle install ubuntu server for long time
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Tsterxer, you can ask for help with your issue in #ubuntu-server
[11:55] <Riddell> hyper_ch: frameworks-kxmlgui
[11:57] <hyper_ch> Riddell: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346559
[11:58] <Riddell> lovely thanks hyper_ch
[11:58] <hyper_ch> for some reasons I don't get emails anymore for my bug reports
[11:58] <Tsterxer> Not related but anyone know C programming/ Reverse engineering?
[11:59] <Tsterxer> relevance*
[11:59] <hyper_ch> yes
[12:00] <Tsterxer> I feel like I don't know what I want to learn or it's because stress of school.
[12:00] <Tsterxer> But I want to know much.
[12:00] <Tsterxer> When do you figured out what you want to learn>
[12:00] <hyper_ch> no idea
[12:01] <BluesKaj> Tsterxer, depends what you find interesting
[12:02] <hyper_ch> usually you figure out what you want to learn at the time you figure it out
[12:02] <Tsterxer> Is it right to learn from books?
[12:04] <Tsterxer_> I know it's not related but why it doesn't work in ubuntu: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/ssh/
[12:04] <Tsterxer_> enable ssh: not a shell builtin...
[12:04] <hyper_ch> Tsterxer_: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[12:05] <Tsterxer_> I did that
[12:05] <hyper_ch> then it works
[12:05] <Tsterxer_> It mean it running?
[12:06] <Tsterxer_> I can't connect to it
[12:07] <hyper_ch> Tsterxer_: ps aux | grep sshd
[12:07] <Tsterxer_> I wrote it
[12:07] <Tsterxer_> it bold /usr/sbin/sshd - D and second with auto sshd
[12:08] <hyper_ch> ssh localhost
[12:08] <Tsterxer_> does it mean i connect to localhost?
[12:09] <Tsterxer_> I have ubuntu 64 bit server in VMware Player
[12:09] <hyper_ch> well, it will try to connect to the ssh server on your machine
[12:09] <Tsterxer_> From my machine I tried <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:09] <hyper_ch> I guess you have some routing/port forwarding issues
[12:09] <hyper_ch> no, from the server
[12:09] <hyper_ch> do ssh localhost
[12:09] <Tsterxer_> It's NAT. Do I need to change it?
[12:10] <hyper_ch> I prefer bridged
[12:10] <hyper_ch> otherwise you'd need to setup portforwading / routing
[12:10] <Tsterxer_> Replicate physical network connection state?
[12:10] <hyper_ch> no idea, I don't use vmware
[12:10] <Tsterxer_> cool
[12:15] <Tsterxer_> it 0% connecting to archieve.ubuntu.org
[12:16] <hyper_ch> s/ie/i/
[12:16] <Tsterxer_> bridged changed to NAT
[12:17] <Tsterxer_> lmao
[12:17] <Tsterxer_> nvm.. Still not work
[12:20] <Tsterxer_> in raspberry pi it was easier ssh
[12:22] <Tsterxer_> Please help
[12:25] <hyper_ch> bridge should work
[12:25] <hyper_ch> of course you need to restart netowring in the guest
[12:25] <hyper_ch> or reboot it
[12:25] <hyper_ch> and your router needs to provide dhcp
[12:25] <hyper_ch> otherwise you need to manually configure the network in the guest
[12:26] <hyper_ch> and I just use virtualbox
[12:26] <hyper_ch> looking forward for v5 which gets updated 3d drivers and usb 3.0 support
[12:26] <Tsterxer_> Thansk i will check it after gcc will be installed
[12:34] <Riddell> hyper_ch: fixed! but it's a funny feature that, it won't update until there's a new kf5 release
[12:52] <pawel_> hi, I have problem with nvidia blob
[12:53] <pawel_> whenever I install it, I have black screen on boot
[12:53] <Tsterxer_> maybe driver?
[12:53] <Tsterxer_> I can't connect to my ssh
[12:53] <pawel_> tried 346 an 349 from xorg edgers
[12:54] <pawel_> in 14.10 some version has worked, with some others I had similar problem
[12:55] <pawel_> maybe there's something wrong with an installer?
[12:55] <Tsterxer_> What does it mean you have black screen?
[12:55] <Tsterxer_> You can't see anything from boot to till you shut up?
[12:55] <Tsterxer_> Is it dual boot?
[12:55] <pawel_> I see anything, but some line about systemd in the end
[12:56] <pawel_> yes, but it boots with nouveau
[12:56] <Tsterxer_> which laptop?
[12:56] <pawel_> however, when I use recovery mode and select resume
[12:56] <pawel_> it works
[12:56] <pawel_> it's not laptop, but PC
[12:57] <pawel_> maybe I need to black list something?
[12:57] <hateball> If you use the GUI installer it should do that for you
[12:58] <pawel_> yes, I used the GUI
[12:58] <pawel_> but maybe I should check?
[13:01] <Tsterxer_> I struggle install ubuntu server
[13:01] <Tsterxer_> Try and don't give up
[13:01] <BluesKaj> which gpu pawel_ ? ther 346 is for higer end models and even those are a bit unstable withthat driver, the 340 should be sufficient.
[13:01] <pawel_> 660 TI
[13:03] <Tsterxer__> look at this: pawel_
[13:03] <Tsterxer__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2070097
[13:03] <Tsterxer__> it might help...
[13:03] <Tsterxer__> Look on his last comment
[13:05] <pawel_> thanks, I'll take a look
[13:06] <Tsterxer__> YES WORKED
[13:06] <Tsterxer__> thanks who offer bridged!!
[13:06] <Tsterxer__> access denied ;_;
[13:07] <Tsterxer__> it's the pass. Why it's denied..
[13:09] <Tsterxer__> YES ROOT
[13:09] <pawel_> I'll give it a try
[13:09] <pawel_> thanks! going to restart
[13:09] <Tsterxer__> ^_^
[13:09] <Tsterxer__> I feel sad people traced.
[13:14] <Tsterxer__> For C programmers: What do you programming; desktop/app/ any.. I just want to know
[13:27] <hyper_ch> Riddell: two commits already?
[13:30] <Riddell> hyper_ch: one for kdelibs4 and one for kf5
[13:32] <hyper_ch> Riddell: :)
[13:57] <aliman> guys i see there a new version of kubuntu is available. if i upgrade i lose anything? cuz my entire hdd is only 1 part
[13:58] <BluesKaj> aliman, you can upgrade over the internet
[13:59] <BluesKaj> and not lose any data
[13:59] <aliman> i opend software updater and i see there upgrade button
[14:00] <BluesKaj> aliman, but first you must update and upgrade and dist-upgrade your existing OS which is 14.10 I assume
[14:00] <aliman> BluesKaj, not sure i understand what you mean
[14:01] <BluesKaj> aliman, which kubuntu version are you using?
[14:01] <aliman> 14.10
[14:02] <murthy> Please upgrade from terminal and avoid the gui method
[14:02] <aliman> sudo apt-get upgrade?
[14:03] <murthy> Wait i will get the command
[14:03] <BluesKaj> aliman, open a terminal and first do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, then sudo do-release-upgrade to upgrade to 15.04
[14:03] <murthy> There is an issue that causes the gui setup process to hang in the middle of the upgrade process
[14:04] <BluesKaj> not usingthe gui
[14:04] <murthy> BluesKaj: that command  wont use the gui right?
[14:04] <BluesKaj> nope it won't
[14:06] <murthy> BluesKaj: dpkg is asking for permission to replace an rc file with the one from maintainers version, but gui doesnt ask for the input from the user and hence dpkg waits infinitly
[14:06] <murthy> ^thats the cause of the hang during upgrade
[14:06] <aliman> when i did sudo do-release-upgrade i got some errors
[14:06] <aliman> ...
[14:07] <BluesKaj> murthy, then just use the enter key
[14:07] <aliman> Err http://archive.canonical.com vivid/partner Translation-en
[14:07] <aliman>
[14:07] <aliman> Get:12 http://security.ubuntu.com vivid-security/main Sources [2.947 B]
[14:07] <aliman> Err http://archive.canonical.com vivid/partner Translation-en
[14:07] <aliman> Err http://extras.ubuntu.com utopic/main Translation-en_US
[14:07] <aliman> and more like this
[14:08] <murthy> BluesKaj: no I think the gui is responding to the inputs and the process seems to be hung
[14:09] <murthy> aliman: did you run sudo apt-get update ?
[14:09] <aliman> yes
[14:10] <BluesKaj> aliman, do you have any ppas ?
[14:10] <aliman> ppas?
[14:11] <BluesKaj> !ppa
[14:11] <aliman> not sure i have that
[14:12] <BluesKaj> aliman, look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d  to see if there's anything in that file
[14:13] <aliman> nothng there
[14:13] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:16] <hyper_ch> my PPAs are all in my sources.list
[14:16] <freya> cool clinet
[14:16] <Packjam> client
[14:16] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, that's because you added them manually
[14:17] <Packjam> who knows a quakenet server
[14:18] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: well, I used my generator ;)
[14:19] <BluesKaj> aliman, open /etc/apt/sources.list and copy and paste it here , http://pastebin.com/
[14:19] <murthy> aliman: you could try disabling the ubuntu extras and partners sources in the software sources and see if that solves the issue
[14:20] <aliman> which display manager to use lightdm or sddm
[14:20] <BluesKaj> Packjam, https://www.quakenet.org/servers
[14:20] <BluesKaj> aliman, sddm for kubuntu
[14:20] <Tsterxer__> Hi!!
[14:21] <BluesKaj> guess installation didn't stall then , aliman
[14:23] <aliman> is it possible to create a windows bootable usb using kubuntu?
[14:23] <Tsterxer__> In what way?
[14:25] <murthy> aliman: why do you  want to do that?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> aliman, dunno for sure , but you could try dd , it works for most bootable images
[14:25] <aliman> murthy, for a friend. he needs a bootable usb
[14:26] <Tsterxer__> Can I ask about gdb stuff not related but no answer in gdb?
[14:26] <badflife> Hi. i want to install the neuwest kubuntu version. but i want to keep the windows bootloader. i dont want to install grub. how can i do this . thanks
[14:26] <MoonUnit`> does ubuntu still support wubi?
[14:27] <Tsterxer__> this is kubuntu
[14:27] <BluesKaj> badflife, you can't , you need to install grab
[14:27] <BluesKaj> grub will find windows and place it in the bootloader
[14:28] <murthy> aliman: Creating an usb for windows from linux is very hard. Particularly windows needs to load usb specific drivers to be before booting the install
[14:28] <BluesKaj> if that's what you're worried about
[14:28] <badflife> i once couldnt insatll a windows update because of grub. thats why i am asking
[14:28] <jcjordyn120> hello people
[14:28] <Tsterxer__> hi
[14:29] <BluesKaj> badflife, grub won't prevent windows update
[14:29] <MoonUnit`> i have done by adding linux boot via easybcd but's it's a pain to get it right you have to be ready for kernel updates.
[14:29] <G__81> is it possible to install kde plasma 5.x in Kubuntu 14.04 ?
[14:29] <badflife> it did prevent an update. i asked in a forum. then i removed grub. and the windwos update was installed successfully
[14:29] <aliman> as i said before i have only 1 part on my hdd and i have many movies in there that i dont wnt to lose. if i reinstall kubuntu 15.04 from usb can i keep my files but wipe all the old kubuntu files?
[14:29] <murthy> Windows aware of grub's presence? that is strange
[14:30] <G__81> or should i only install the 15.04 version?
[14:30] <BluesKaj> windows update is a terrible apllicxationa nd windows reposn are to blame for most update problems ...the trick is not to update 60 updates atone shot
[14:30] <badflife> it was only one update that couldnt be updated
[14:30] <yossarianuk> The trick is to never ever touch Windows #easy life
[14:31] <MoonUnit`> G__81:  they did have plasma 5 ppa for 14.10 but it was unsupported, best to go for 15.04.
[14:31] <murthy> G__81: I would recommend 15.04, but you should checkout the live cd before installing
[14:31] <BluesKaj> murthy, no grub is aware of windows
[14:31] <badflife> i have a ps4 now so i will slowly get rid of windows now . but not now yet
[14:32] <murthy> G__81: If you are going to upgrade from 14.10, do it via terminal
[14:32] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: I still wonder, why can't windows do all updates in one run and doesn't require hundreds of reboots inbetween?
[14:32] <murthy> BluesKaj: ya
[14:32] <badflife> haha. well that is a secret microsoft wont reveal
[14:32] <hyper_ch> aliman: always have backups
[14:33] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, it can be doen the windows cmd, but titakews a bit od fooling with the DLLs to get the cmd to work with windows updates
[14:33] <murthy> G__81: There is a possiblity that your upgrade process may hang in the middle when updating using the gui
[14:34] <hyper_ch> aliman: since you only have one partition you could theoretically install from usb without losing the data.... you'd need to select manual partitioning and then chose to not format the partition..... however it's risky, so make backup first and I wouldn't recommend that way
[14:34] <murthy> G__81: So if you are upgrading, I would recommend you to upgrade via terminal
[14:34] <aliman> thx
[14:35] <BluesKaj> murthy, i didn't have any problems yesterday with the ubiquity installer at all , all went smoothly
[14:35] <hyper_ch> aliman: not sure how many movies or stuff you have
[14:35] <murthy> BluesKaj: not about the fresh installer, Its the upgrader gui
[14:35] <hyper_ch> external usb 3.0 drives aren't that expensive naymore..... hook it up, backup data at about 80-100MB/s
[14:36] <BluesKaj> murthy, oh forget that thing , it's always been buggy
[14:36] <hyper_ch> and then you can try it or wipe the installation and install a complete fresh system
[14:37] <JesseDhammu> hay
[14:37] <JesseDhammu> i just crashed my Kmail
[14:37] <JesseDhammu> how do i get it working
[14:37] <JesseDhammu> i updated from 14.10 to 15.04
[14:37] <hyper_ch> kmail or kontact?
[14:38] <JesseDhammu> both
[14:38] <yossarianuk> hyper_ch: Bad design is the cause.
[14:38] <hyper_ch> yossarianuk: ?
[14:38] <yossarianuk> >  I still wonder, why can't windows do all updates in one run and doesn't require hundreds of reboots inbetween?
[14:38] <JesseDhammu> Akonadi Server Self-Test Report
[14:39] <JesseDhammu> [14:39] <JesseDhammu> Test 1:  SUCCESS
[14:39] <JesseDhammu> --------
[14:39] <JesseDhammu> Database driver found.
[14:39] <hyper_ch> yossarianuk: ah :)
[14:39] <JesseDhammu> Details: The QtSQL driver 'QMYSQL' is required by your current Akonadi server configuration and was found on your system.
[14:39] <unopaste> JesseDhammu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:39] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, since when can yiou upgrade to a single partition without formatting ?
[14:39] <yossarianuk> I don't understand why it installs update when you shutdown
[14:39] <BluesKaj> from usb
[14:39] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: if you select manual partitioning you can set format to no
[14:39] <yossarianuk> or randomly in the middle of the working day...
[14:39] <hyper_ch> (or was that only in alternate/mini?)
[14:40] <BluesKaj> . it will over write / so you still lose all the data
[14:40] <JesseDhammu> 2015-04-24 20:08:36 1759 [Note] InnoDB: Highest supported file format is Barracuda.
[14:40] <JesseDhammu> 2015-04-24 20:08:36 1759 [Note] InnoDB: The log sequence numbers 1797281 and 1797281 in ibdata files do not match the log sequence number 3906313 in the ib_logfiles!
[14:40] <JesseDhammu> 2015-04-24 20:08:36 1759 [Note] InnoDB: Database was not shutdown normally!
[14:40] <JesseDhammu> 2015-04-24 20:08:36 1759 [Note] InnoDB: Starting crash recovery.
[14:40] <JesseDhammu> 2015-04-24 20:08:36 1759 [Note] InnoDB: Reading tablespace information from the .ibd files...
[14:40] <JesseDhammu> 2015-04-24 20:08:36 1759 [Note] InnoDB: Restoring possible half-written data pages
[14:40] <unopaste> JesseDhammu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:40] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: well, what will it overwrite?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, the / partition
[14:41] <hyper_ch> if I have a / partition and tell the installer to use the / partition and not format it
[14:41] <JesseDhammu> Details: The default configuration for the MySQL server was found and is readable at <a href='/etc/akonadi/mysql-global.conf'>/etc/akonadi/mysql-global.conf</a>.
[14:41] <JesseDhammu> File content of '/etc/akonadi/mysql-global.conf':
[14:41] <JesseDhammu> #
[14:41] <JesseDhammu> # Global Akonadi MySQL server settings,
[14:41] <murthy> JesseDhammu: wait
[14:41] <JesseDhammu> # These settings can be adjusted using $HOME/.config/akonadi/mysql-local.conf
[14:41] <JesseDhammu> #
[14:41] <unopaste> JesseDhammu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:41] <hyper_ch> the data should still be intact there... so when I have some /home/user/Video/Movie.mkv file that should still be there afterwards... or am I mistaken?
[14:41] <murthy> JesseDhammu: use paste.kde.org to give lengthy info
[14:42] <JesseDhammu> # Size of each log file in a log group (default:5M) larger means less I/O but more time for recovery.
[14:42] <JesseDhammu> innodb_log_file_size=64M
[14:42] <JesseDhammu> # # error log file name, relative to datadir (default:hostname.err)
[14:42] <JesseDhammu> log_error=mysql.err
[14:42] <JesseDhammu> # print warnings and connection errors (default:1)
[14:42] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, ubiquity will still overwrite the data on / whether you format it or not
[14:42] <JesseDhammu> log_warnings=2
[14:42] <unopaste> JesseDhammu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:42] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: and when you use alternate / mini installer?
[14:43] <JesseDhammu> #
[14:43] <JesseDhammu> [mysqld]
[14:43] <JesseDhammu> # strict query parsing/interpretation
[14:43] <JesseDhammu> # TODO: make Akonadi work with those settings enabled
[14:43] <JesseDhammu> # sql_mode=strict_trans_tables,strict_all_tables,strict_error_for_division_by_zero,no_auto_create_user,no_auto_value_on_zero,no_engine_substitution,no_zero_date,no_zero_in_date,only_full_group_by,pipes_as_concat
[14:43] <JesseDhammu> # sql_mode=strict_trans_tables
[14:43] <unopaste> JesseDhammu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:43] <BluesKaj> only if you hava a separate /home partition that isn't formatted can save your data
[14:43] <G__81> Sorry i got disconnected. Is there a way to install KDE Plasma 5.3 in Kubuntu 14.04 ?
[14:44] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: so what is the format option then good for..... hmmm....
[14:44] <G__81> actually Plasma 5.x
[14:44] <JesseDhammu> lower_case_table_names=1
[14:44] <JesseDhammu> # Maximum size of one packet or any generated/intermediate string. (default:1M)
[14:44] <G__81> or is 15.04 the only solution ?
[14:44] <JesseDhammu> max_allowed_packet=32M
[14:44] <JesseDhammu> # Maximum simultaneous connections allowed (default:100)
[14:44] <JesseDhammu> max_connections=256
[14:44] <JesseDhammu> # The two options below make no sense with prepared statements and/or transactions
[14:44] <unopaste> JesseDhammu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:45] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, for formatting / , otherwise you will keep getting prompted that / has data on it and needs to be formatted
[14:45] <JesseDhammu> Details: No resource agents have been found, Akonadi is not usable without at least one. This usually means that no resource agents are installed or that there is a setup problem. The following paths have been searched: '/usr/share/akonadi/agents'. The XDG_DATA_DIRS environment variable is set to '/usr/share/plasma:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/'; make sure this includes all paths where Akonadi agents are installed.
[14:45] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: I'll test it in a vm
[14:45] <JesseDhammu> Directory listing of '/usr/share/akonadi/agents':
[14:45] <JesseDhammu> akonadibalooindexingagent.desktop
[14:45] <JesseDhammu> akonadinepomukfeederagent.desktop
[14:45] <hyper_ch> well, time to go home now
[14:45] <JesseDhammu> akonotesresource.desktop
[14:46] <JesseDhammu> archivemailagent.desktop
[14:46] <unopaste> JesseDhammu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:46] <hyper_ch> bbl
[14:46] <G__81> Can some one let me know please?
[14:46] <murthy> G__81: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.2
[14:47] <JesseDhammu> Details: The Akonadi server reported errors during its current startup. The log can be found in <a href='/home/jesse/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error'>/home/jesse/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error</a>.
[14:47] <JesseDhammu> File content of '/home/jesse/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error':
[14:47] <JesseDhammu> Database process exited unexpectedly during initial connection!
[14:47] <JesseDhammu> executable: "/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi"
[14:47] <JesseDhammu> arguments: ("--defaults-file=/home/jesse/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf", "--datadir=/home/jesse/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/", "--socket=/tmp/akonadi-jesse.tODXjG/mysql.socket")
[14:47] <JesseDhammu> stdout: ""
[14:47] <unopaste> JesseDhammu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:47] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, testing in vm isn't the same as areal partition
[14:47] <murthy> G__81: There is a message in the webpage "Note this page is obsolete, to install Plasma 5 now use Kubuntu Vivid/15.04 beta"
[14:47] <BluesKaj> JesseDhammu, what are you doing???
[14:47] <G__81> murthy: so the only option is to use 15.04 right?
[14:48] <murthy> G__81: Its the best option
[14:48] <JesseDhammu> File content of '/home/jesse/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error.old':
[14:48] <JesseDhammu> Database process exited unexpectedly during initial connection!
[14:48] <JesseDhammu> executable: "/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi"
[14:48] <JesseDhammu> arguments: ("--defaults-file=/home/jesse/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf", "--datadir=/home/jesse/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/", "--socket=/tmp/akonadi-jesse.tODXjG/mysql.socket")
[14:48] <JesseDhammu> stdout: ""
[14:48] <JesseDhammu> stderr: "2015-04-24 20:08:35 0 [Warning] TIMESTAMP with implicit DEFAULT value is deprecated. Please use --explicit_defaults_for_timestamp server option (see documentation for more details).
[14:48] <unopaste> JesseDhammu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:48] <murthy> G__81: plasma in 14.10 was for preview purpose
[14:48] <G__81> murthy: oh ok i thought if there is a way to install the plasma 5.2 in 14.04 LTS
[14:49] <BluesKaj> G__81, you can install plasma 5/KF5 on kubuntu 14.10 ..it will work , but not on 14.04
[14:49] <JesseDhammu> --------
[14:49] <JesseDhammu> No previous Akonadi control error log found.
[14:49] <JesseDhammu> Details: The Akonadi control process did not report any errors during its previous startup.
[14:49] <JesseDhammu> what to do with akondai sever
[14:49] <BluesKaj> somebody kick this guy , JesseDhammu
[14:49] <G__81> oh ok BluesKaj and moving forward there is no option to have any PPAs for the 14.04 for plasma 5 ?
[14:50] <BluesKaj> G__81, none that i know of
[14:51] <MoonUnit`> JesseDhammu: there is a bug report about it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/akonadi/+bug/1437846
[14:51] <murthy> its a known bug right?
[15:13] <bluesky> nick
[15:21] <funbooster> k
[15:22] <kidx> how do i disable bouncy icosn onKDE 5.2 also how can i make the menu faster?
[15:24] <alvin> I lost all bookmarks in konsole (in this case, quite a lot) :-(
[15:24] <qua-non> hey guys have there been many reports of kubuntu 15.04 not working atall on virtualbox?
[15:25] <qua-non> after a update from 14.10. I can't seem to even get to the login screen using default boot parameters
[15:25] <BluesKaj> kidx, swystem settings>applications>launch feedback
[15:25] <qua-non> using upstart seems to get me to the loginscreen but kde5 locks soon after
[15:26] <BluesKaj> qua-non, how did you upgrade ?
[15:26] <qua-non> muon update manager
[15:26] <funbooster> hello
[15:27] <kidx> thanks guys
[15:27] <BluesKaj> qua-non, ok drop to  tty/vt with ctl+alt+f1 to f6  then update and upgrade, after that reboot
[15:27] <BluesKaj> at the login
[15:27] <qua-non> BluesKaj, did that, does not help
[15:28] <qua-non> BluesKaj, sry seems your instructions didn't complete
[15:28] <BluesKaj> did you dist-upgrade too?
[15:28] <qua-non> yup
[15:29] <BluesKaj> whcich DM did you choose , sddm or lightdm
[15:29] <BluesKaj> qua-non,^
[15:29] <qua-non> lighdm
[15:29] <soee> switch to sddm
[15:29] <BluesKaj> ok , best to install sddm
[15:30] <qua-non> ok, trying
[15:31] <BluesKaj> bloody vms, what apita
[15:31] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: it's not that I don't believe you... but testing it myself is like I don't believe you ;)
[15:31] <kidx> how can I make my menu faster?
[15:31] <kidx> just wondering
[15:32] <soee> switch t kicker
[15:32] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, it's not the same on a vm as it is on a real partition
[15:32] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: why not?
[15:32] <BluesKaj> because it's virtual
[15:32] <soee> kidx: right click on menu, choose Alternatives and select Application Launcher
[15:33] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: it behaves like a real partition and harddisk even in the vm
[15:33] <BluesKaj> try it on a real install that resides on a partition, hyper_ch
[15:33] <kidx> it was a desktop effect
[15:33] <kidx> thats not what i mean I wanan make the menu popup faster
[15:34] <BluesKaj> no it doesn't and if you're telling ppl to do what you did above, then they're gonna lose all their data unless thy're on a vm too, hyper_ch
[15:34] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: first thing I told was to make a backup
[15:34] <hyper_ch> and I said they might lose data
[15:35] <hyper_ch> hence the backup
[15:35] <BluesKaj> no matter , most ppl won't
[15:37] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: if I attach a usb pendrive to the vm and make the test there, would that satisfy you?
[15:37] <BluesKaj> nope
[15:37] <hyper_ch> why not?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> you need a real partition,VMs are no substitute for the real partion
[15:38] <hyper_ch> a vm with an attached usb pen
[15:38] <BluesKaj> partition
[15:38] <hyper_ch> so there's a real partition on the usb pen
[15:38] <BluesKaj> that's all i have to say hyper_ch
[15:39] <hyper_ch> why isn't the usbpen a real partition?
[15:40] <qua-non> BluesKaj, apparently I had sddm installed and used, removing lightdm and it's kde greeter made no difference
[15:40] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch,  you don't get it , I'm talking about installing to a real partition, not from one.
[15:40] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: you can attach a usb pendrive to a vm
[15:41] <hyper_ch> so what's not real there when I then install onto that attached pendrive?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, that's it that's all, no more
[15:41] <hyper_ch> I'm not install from the pendrive but TO THE PENDRIVE... you misunderstand
[15:42] <BluesKaj> a pendrive is meant for live media not a permannebnt installation
[15:42] <hyper_ch> how does a pendrive differ from a ssd? both is flash storage
[15:42] <BluesKaj> read above
[15:44] <hyper_ch> still not getting what the problem is.... creating a vm in vbox.... load the installer iso into the virtual dvd drive.... have a usb pendrive attached to the vm.... install into the pendrive... that's no live media but a permanent installation
[15:45] <qua-non> BluesKaj, I am assuming something might have gone wrong in the upgrade. My initial install was using ubuntu minimal install on top of which I did `sudo apt-get install kde-desktop`
[15:45] <qua-non> is it possible some new packages were introduced that might not have been installed in my system?
[15:45] <lordievader> qua-non: Is plasma-desktop installed?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> qua-non, perhaps you need to install kubuntu-dektop
[15:46] <BluesKaj> err desktop
[15:46] <qua-non> lordievader, Plasma-desktop might not be , checking
[15:46] <lordievader> !info plasma-desktop vivid
[15:46] <qua-non> BluesKaj, kubuntu-desktop is there and updated
[15:47] <BluesKaj> ok qua-non as lordievader suggested, plsama-desktop
[15:48] <BluesKaj> err plasma-desktop
[15:49] <BluesKaj> altho it did install by default when upgraded by internet from 14.10
[15:49] <qua-non> installed, rebooting to check, virtualbox is making me angry
[15:50] <qua-non> virtualbox has too many issues with 3d acceleration :/
[15:50] <qua-non> I didn't get such issues with 14.10
[15:51] <qua-non> don't know who to blame :P, system d likes to take 2 minutes to lookup network interfaces
[15:52] <BluesKaj> dunno why users think vms are the same as a real installation when they have so many problems associated with them
[15:52] <lordievader> qua-non: It wasn't installed before?
[15:52] <Etriaph> G'day folks.
[15:52] <lordievader> Etriaph: o/
[15:53] <qua-non> ok, that seems to have done something, it seems to work, although the plasma desktop seems to have a greyish theme not the whitish one showed inscreenshots of 15.10
[15:53] <Etriaph> 15.10 or 15.04?
[15:53] <qua-non> lordievader, apparently not
[15:53] <qua-non> 15.04, sry
[15:53] <lordievader> qua-non: That is odd...
[15:53] <lordievader> qua-non: Amd64 14.10 -> 15.04 upgrade?
[15:54] <qua-non> yes
[15:54] <lordievader> !info plasma5-desktop vivid
[15:55] <MoonUnit`> !info plasma-desktop vivid
[15:57] <denixx> Hi! I have a problem using kubuntu 15.04: When I do "ssh -l user -p 44 -L 8090:localhost:8090 -L 1234:localhost:5900 -R 5700:localhost:5900 my.hostname.org -N" - it opens connection, but when I try to use 5700 at remote computer, it says in local console "WARNING: Server requests forwarding for unknown listen_port 5700".
[15:57] <denixx> I'll appreciate any help.
[15:58] <denixx> It looks like some bug.
[16:01] <denixx> I have a brief look at sources of openssh-client, there is channels.c, method "channel_connect_by_listen_address(const char *listen_host, u_short listen_port, char *ctype, char *rname)" tries to do "if (open_listen_match_tcpip(&permitted_opens[i], listen_host, listen_port, 1)) {" and if nothing suits - do this error.
[16:01] <stuq> how do I change the auto-logout timing in 15.04?
[16:02] <MoonUnit`> stuq: desktop behaviour in settings
[16:02] <MoonUnit`> screen locking
[16:02] <qua-non> lordievader, I found the source of my issues it was not plasma-desktop, it's enabling 3d that leads to a lot of issues on the vm including kde getting stuck sometimes
[16:02] <stuq> MoonUnit`: ty
[16:03] <qua-non> disabling 3d has fixed the issues
[16:03] <qua-non> but I need 3d :/
[16:03] <lordievader> VB and graphics allways has been crap.
[16:03] <lordievader> But that might just be my opninion.
[16:03] <denixx> I am trying to understand is it a bug somewhere in openssh-client, but do not understand C-things, I am a Java programmer, unfortunately :(
[16:04] <qua-non> lordievader, I agree but I don't really have a option, I need to develop using 3d/opengl. Maybe I can disable the usage of opengl in kde?
[16:04] <lordievader> qua-non: Dual-boot / a better hypervisor ain't an option?
[16:05] <qua-non> lordievader, nope :/
[16:06] <lordievader> Heh, too bad.
[16:07] <qua-non> :D
[16:08] <lordievader> KVM/Qemu can passthrough a gpu ;)
[16:09] <qua-non> I need to provide this as a standalone vm to clents, is qemu friendly enough for that ? was not last I tried
[16:09] <qua-non>  plus kvm is linux only no?
[16:10] <lordievader> Yes.
[16:11] <lordievader> With virt-manager to manage it, sure.
[16:11] <denixx> Ok, maybe I  should try ubuntu's mailing lists?
[16:11] <rberg> BluesKaj: we were talking about lvm mirror vs raid 1 the other day. I came across this old article suggesting you may lose FS barriers using device mapper (DM) on multi disk configs.. https://deranfangvomende.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/linux-lvm-mirroring-comes-at-a-price/
[16:12] <rberg> I wonder if that have changed since
[16:13] <lordievader> Oehh, interesting.
[16:13]  * lordievader reads
[16:15] <rosco_y> How can I fix my GUI so that I can easily drag windows across panels?
[16:15] <rosco_y> dconf?
[16:17] <mstop> Hi. Is here anybody from english-speaking country? Better US
[16:17] <lordievader> rberg: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/150644/raiding-with-lvm-vs-mdraid-pros-and-cons
[16:17] <rosco_y> Hi mstop
[16:19] <hyper_ch> there are cons against mdadm?
[16:20] <mstop> I heard two times beatiful female name... it sounds like Mannis or Menniz, how it type on a right manner?
[16:21] <lordievader> hyper_ch: Sure, it is not very flexible.
[16:21] <hyper_ch> lordievader: from what I read is that lvm-raid use mdadm
[16:21] <hyper_ch> sorry.. it uses mdraid... whatever that is
[16:22] <rberg> what flexibility is missing?
[16:22] <lordievader> Yes, but as a per lv based scheme. Not per disk scheme.
[16:22] <lordievader> You can have a mix of all raid flavours with lvm on the same couple of disks.
[16:23] <rberg> ohh thats pretty cool..
[16:23]  * rberg sticks with raid 6
[16:23] <BluesKaj> mstop, do you have a kubuntu support question?
[16:23] <hyper_ch> you can also have all raid flavours on the same couple of disks with mdadm... IIRC
[16:24] <rberg> yeah I suppose you can if you make different raid levels out of partitions on disk
[16:24] <lordievader> Yes, but than you likely have fixed partitions.
[16:27] <azor> Hi everyone, just installed Kubuntu 15.04 on Asus UX305. Brightness control function keys don't work, although changing brightness using xbacklight works fine. Anyone have any ideas how to make fn keys working on 15.04? (or some hints/where to look for solution?)
[16:30] <hyper_ch> does canonical still stick to mir?
[16:33] <lordievader> Believe so.
[16:43] <hyper_ch> damn, the locale are totally weird.... all is english that's good... but date is still in mm/dd/yy and clock 12h format but gimp runs in german
[16:43] <hyper_ch> terminal is also german
[16:51] <plasma_question> hello folks, i am using the new KUBUNTU 15.04 and i am very enthusiastic about it, so nice! just one question: desktop-symbols for staring programs have a white quadratic background, for me this is ugly, how could i switch this off, i cant find it how to do so?
[16:51] <plasma_question> (starting)
[16:55] <aliman> damn i just install new version 15.04 and is awesome
[16:57] <murthy> aliman: nice
[16:58] <aliman> but unfortunatly now i need to get all my movies back like 200 cuz i lost em
[17:00] <murthy> oh. Take care next time
[17:01] <aliman> naa i wanted to do it. i created 3 partitions now so next time i just format /
[17:07] <BluesKaj> aliman, so / ,  /home and swap ?
[17:08] <aliman> yep
[17:08] <aliman> can anybody tell me which is the best adds block for firefox?
[17:10] <MoonUnit`> ublock is pretty light on resources.
[17:11] <BluesKaj> ublock works well tho
[17:11] <pedro> hi
[17:13] <aliman> BluesKaj, thx
[17:39] <jalo> Did anyone successfully install kubuntu 32bit on PC?
[17:39] <jalo> From DVD?
[17:43] <jalo> Asking because I didn't. Runs well on VM but not on PC.
[17:50] <M1C4HTRON13> anyone know how to get xchat to show in the systray in 15.04?
[17:51] <MoonUnit`> M1C4HTRON13: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
[17:52] <MoonUnit`> until they fix it you'll have to use an app to see them
[17:52] <M1C4HTRON13> thanks MoonUnit`
[17:53] <MoonUnit`> martins blog suggests wmsystemtray, personally find trayer to be better.
[18:08] <personal> Running kubuntu 14.04 lts x64 , fully updated . Finally figured out had to put a name in the get Jovie to talk, after an hour searching on the internet. Installed fesival from info on ubuntu help pages. Sounds nice enouth. I dont mind jovie voice but can't understend it half the time. Can't get jovie to use festival . Plently of BonJohn Jovie on google and can''t uderstand entire books of developer jargon .
[18:09] <dtalmage> If I wanted to work on a Plasma 5.0 tablet user experience, who should I contact?
[18:11] <personal> I could of read the entire works of encyclopedia britanica trying to operate ubuntu
[18:11] <lordievader> dtalmage: Probably somone in #kde-devel.
[18:12] <dtalmage> Oh, not #kubuntu?  OK.  I'll try there.  Thanks!
[18:15] <personal> anybody know how to get jovie to notice festival ?
[18:17] <donnie> Will ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports recieve the stable release of Plasma 5.3?
[18:17] <personal> Plasma 5 keeps crashing
[18:19] <personal> Nothing ever gets completed , nor stable.
[18:20] <BrianH78> hey everyone!  i ran into a weird issue and was wondering if someone in here had any insight...i upgraded kubuntu 14.10 to 15.04 last night.  when i went to log in this morning, it was telling me i was using the wrong password, and now i can't get in.  anyone have any ideas?  **sadface**
[18:21] <MoonUnit`> personal: found a post on kubuntu forums, might to too old to be useful though. https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?57248-The-festival-does-not-work-with-Speech-Dispatcher-and-Jovie-please-help!&p=286929&viewfull=1#post286929
 ok thanks, ill check it out
 yeah , i read that entire post 3 times already . Tryied it, but did not work
[18:23] <MoonUnit`> :(
[18:23] <martin-u> I upgraded to the latest Kubuntu where they use KF5. Now all my personal settings are back to the default. How do I migrate them?
[18:25] <personal> with the pass word thing , press control alt F4 , maybe that will get you in to a shell
[18:26] <BrianH78> personal: hopefully.  the question is, then, will it still tell me i have the wrong password?  ;-)
[18:26] <fknupper> hi
[18:27] <fknupper> can anyone help me? i want to create a menü-entry
[18:27] <personal> I don't know but you can check. I dont know how to hack peoples accounts.
[18:27] <BrianH78> personal: LOL  i'm just hoping to not have to burn it down and rebuild it again.  =3
[18:28] <fknupper> in folder are the icons?
[18:29] <BrianH78> thanks for the tip, personal!
[18:29] <bOSKE> i just upgraded and changed double click in setings and now i double click to open files
[18:29] <bOSKE> but on desktop
[18:30] <bOSKE> when i double click it opens 2 times same app
[18:30] <bOSKE> dont know what to change now
 Yeah i know what you mean . I'v being trying to remaster , so atleast i got the essentials , but have not manged to yet . 4 gb limit is a huge head ache.
[18:31] <lordievader> BrianH78: You could allways bootup with init=/bin/bash or in single user mode and change your user password from there.
[18:31] <MoonUnit`> bOSKE: there is a double click setting in dolphin and also a setting in settings/input devices/mouse
[18:33] <BrianH78> lordievader: i will try that if personal's CTRL+ALT+F4 trick doesn't drop me somewhere I can fix this.  thanks!
[18:34] <BrianH78> i just wonder if the system hiccoughed while upgrading while i was asleep...LOL
 i think any of the F's will do , and the orginal terminal is on F7 if i remeber ringt, but one of them any way, every F opens up a new terminal and the whole system runs in one of them . Pitty can't open seperate instances of it on all of them , seems to go bakc to same x sssion when type startx
[18:37] <bOSKE> MoonUnit`, i have changed it but only on desktop i have one click it gets me upset :)
[18:37] <bOSKE> http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1K/11Q/2ymk0fpW/snapshot5.png
[18:37] <BrianH78> personal: cool cool
[18:37] <bOSKE> http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1S/8P/2s9dqBgh/snapshot6.png
[18:39] <personal> 15.04 is unstable . It's like a complety new series , like when gnome and unity came out, as soon as they start getting good , they get dropped
[18:40] <bOSKE> i knew it i should not upgrade :/
[18:41] <BrianH78> personal: i think it's going to be cool once all the bugs get worked out (15.10, maybe?).
[18:42] <personal> The bugs never get worked out , like pushing apimple down anouther one pops up some where eles.
[18:43] <personal> Most bugs are cuased by change or grammer and spelling mistakes, there like dozen of computer launguges floating around and they change on a minute by miunte basis
[18:44] <personal> I'm betting these not a single stable releast of debain and it's supposed to be well know for it. Best to accct realty and plan on these thing happenig alot
[18:45] <lordievader> A tty still poses a login, the options I gave do not ;), personal, BrianH78
[18:46] <personal> Yeah its a good idea, 2 idea's are better then none .
[18:47] <BrianH78> personal: true...but at least we aren't stuck under the thumb of the redmond jerks.  ;-)
[18:47] <personal> Who's redmond ?
[18:47] <BrianH78> lordievader: i wonder if, because i never logged out (just went to screensaver), it would require my password...haven't tried that yet
[18:48] <BrianH78> personal: redmond, Washington...microsoft's headquarters
[18:48] <personal> Oh ok , nice to know .
[18:50] <personal> Microsoft and google , are the reason i put up with so much. When i use windows , it crashes and burns ten times as much as linux
[18:50] <BrianH78> personal: same...i only use windows at work because i have to.
[18:50] <personal> Same .
[18:51] <BrianH78> hey lordievader: if i don't usually get boot options, is there a quick and easy way to force single user mode before it gets to the GUI?\
[18:51] <lordievader> BrianH78: Hold shift after the bios screen.
[18:52] <BrianH78> lordievader: thanks...couldn't remember if it was shift or CTRL
[18:54] <personal> If it dont work have a look at https://www.kali.org/ and ask if somebody knows how to crack it.
[18:55] <personal> We all use weak passwords becuase we have to type it in so ofthen and rember so many of them.
[18:57] <personal> If that fails, might have to read the works of Alan Turing , Lol.
[18:57] <lordievader> personal: Heh, you maybe.
[18:58] <lordievader> Anyhow the default Ubuntu setup is rather weak in terms of security if you don't do full disk encrytion and do have hardware access.
[18:58] <BrianH78> i dunno...my password is pretty strong...at least that's what ubuntu tells me.  ;-)
[18:59] <personal> Are you goign to tell me you have a pass word that 1 out of a million other people dont have ? . They have lists and we are animals , we have habbits, we have trits, we have an ubringing in very predictable  ways. Take baout an hour to run through a billion passwords.
[19:00] <Ironic57> Please help- Upgrade 14.10 to 15.10 hang at 61% anyway to refresh it, or do I reboot, and cross my fingers?
[19:00] <lordievader> personal: I am going to tell you that the password I have NO ONE else has.
[19:01] <lordievader> Only by brute forcing it you may find out.
[19:01] <personal> I really dought that. Cia can be hacked in to, absoluty nothing can't
[19:01] <Ironic57> watherboarding should work
[19:01] <personal> Even all those truecryt has being hacked
[19:01] <Ironic57> *water
[19:02] <personal> that will do it, or just play barneys " I love you , you love me " , for a few weeks
[19:02] <Ironic57> Can anyone help- Upgrade 14.10 to 15.10 hang at 61% anyway to refresh it, or do I reboot, and cross my fingers?
[19:03] <personal> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq734_nZ7Eo
[19:03] <bazhang> !ot | personal
[19:04] <lordievader> Ironic57: For how long has it been in that state?
[19:05] <Ironic57> @Lord- about 2 1/2 hours since it said 31 minutes remaining
[19:06] <lordievader> Hmm, does top show  any activity for dpkg or apt?
[19:06] <Ironic57> @Lord- any konsole comment I can use to kick it in the can?
 How do i get kovie working , with any speech-dispacher but its own - it sounds alwful
[19:06] <genii> Ironic57: Are you able to get to a different console if you do ctrl-alt-F2-6 ?
[19:06] <lordievader> Ironic57: top ;)
[19:06] <bOSKE> where i can submit bugs for kubuntu?
[19:06] <lordievader> personal: ubottu is a bot ;)
[19:07] <lordievader> !bugs | bOSKE
[19:07] <Ironic57> @Lord- Window is now blank, but it said installing libsane-hpaio (386) at 61%
[19:08] <personal> Lol , who isn't
[19:09] <lordievader> Ironic57: Open a terminal and run 'top' for a while, see if dpkg or apt is active.
[19:09] <personal> Can i look at the code , maybe i can get it to figure out problems
 dmesg , might help . dmesg | more
[19:12] <BrianH78> lordievader, personal: thanks for your help!  gotta get back to the workday.  cheers!
[19:12] <ubuntuer> hi guys
[19:12] <ubuntuer> ı want to learn something
 No worries , better then nothing i hope. Have a good one .
[19:13] <ubuntuer> with modern and normal hdd whats the startup time ?
[19:14] <lordievader> I got 38 seconds on a luks -> lvm Gentoo install.
 Scritch my back and i'll scratch yours, is ruby a good lauguge to learn , will it help work on ubuntu and fix problems ?
[19:14] <ubuntuer> ah
[19:14] <ubuntuer> i asked wrong
[19:14] <Ironic57> Total noob here, I have 141 task, no dpkg or apt in the command column
[19:14] <ubuntuer> i miss something
[19:15] <ubuntuer> ı mean kubuntu
[19:15] <ubuntuer> startup time
[19:15] <Ironic57> How do I direct comments in here?
[19:15] <lordievader> ubuntuer: I know ;)
[19:15] <lordievader> Ironic57: The <- name thing? Type the first few letters then tab to autocomplete.
[19:16] <lordievader> Ironic57: Anyhow, 'ps aux|grep apt\|dpkg' doesn't return anything?
[19:18] <genii> ubuntuer: I have a dual SSD as RAID1, From powering on switch to login screen of lightdm on Kubuntu 14.10 is about 20 seconds. After login, about another 12-15 seconds until my session comes up with konsole, firefox, quassel, and  VLC running
 that last command returns this: 1904  0.0  0.0   4532  2060 pts/9    S+   15:17   0:00 grep --color=auto apt|dpkg
[19:19] <lordievader> Ironic57: Hmm, you can kill the upgrade window. Looks pretty dead to me.
[19:19] <lordievader> Ironic57: After you've killed it run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' in your terminal.
- so download 15.10 to usb, and overwrite partition?
[19:21] <bazhang> !15.10
 Thats bit risky , maybe change the server and try again .
[19:21] <bazhang> no such thing
[19:21] <lordievader> Ironic57: 15.10 is not yet released ;) No do as I say ;)
[19:21] <Ironic57> @Lord- The window won't die- won't quit
[19:21] <lordievader> Ironic57: Run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' in a terminal.
[19:22] <lordievader> Ironic57: Ctrl + alt + esc -> click window
[19:22] <Ironic57> @lord- will do
[19:22] <jla2> Is the calendar holidays feature gone in 15.04?
[19:23] <Ironic57> @Lord- Returns: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:23] <genii> !aptfix
[19:25] <Ironic57> ok- No idea who's addressing who
[19:26] <lordievader> Ironic57: The ubottu thing was to you ;)
[19:27] <genii> Ironic57: If you used sudo with the command that was given and you're still getting the message about not locking the file, use the instructions provided by the bot
[19:27] <Ironic57> @Lord- It's dead- thx
[19:28] <genii> Ironic57: You can't get any other consoles with c trl-alt-(F2 key through F6 key)  ?
[19:28] <Ironic57> @Lord- this command?: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:28] <Ironic57> I have terminal open np tasks
[19:28] <lordievader> Ironic57: That's what ubottu says ;)
[19:30] <Ironic57> @Lord- Returns:  USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND /var/lib/dpkg/lock:  root      32505 F.... dpkg Kill process 32505 ? (y/N)
[19:32] <personal> sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[19:33] <lordievader> Ironic57: Yes kill it, but do not remove it.
[19:34] <Ironic57> @Lord- is killing a ton of processes and requests restart
[19:34] <lordievader> Not just that  32505 process?
[19:34] <Ironic57> @Lord- is setting up in terminal- thyvm
[19:35] <Ironic57> @Lord- going to leave terminal run, and when it's done will restart- tysvm
[19:36] <lordievader> Ironic57: What are you running exactly?
[19:37] <Ironic57> @Lord- I typed Y to kill the process as you said- and it's installing and setting up a ton of things
[19:37] <lordievader> Hmm, it is configuring things...
[19:38] <lordievader> After it finishes run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' again.
[19:38] <jla2> Nevermind, a Google tells me KDE PIM libraries haven't been ported yet.
[19:38] <Ironic57> @Lord- I appreciate your help- thx
[19:38] <Ironic57> @Lord- w/o restart?
[19:41] <lordievader> Ironic57: Yes, without restart.
[19:43] <personal> 2 operators , a supected robot and 277 users , and not single person knows whats goign on with KDE text to speech
[19:43] <Ironic57> @Lord- It's updating everything so it'll be awhile, will do as you said before restart (sudo apt-get dist-upgrade) before restart- Thanks again
[19:45] <lordievader> personal: Don't think it is a feature in high demand.
[19:45] <lordievader> personal: You can allways try #kde.
 Really 100 million retards in the world trying to use computers . What about poor black hole guy ?
 Stephan hawkings . I'v lost how many times i'v seen people on t.v with the needy , saying computers are going to set them free of their hell
[19:49] <bazhang> personal, please stop that offtopic chat
[19:50] <personal> A main feature on KDE is off topic ?
[19:50] <bazhang> no
[19:55] <personal> I thought ubuntu ment humanity . I'll check out the other channel mentioned.
[19:56] <bazhang> this is a support channel personal , there are chat channels,
[20:00] <personal> Theres a bing bang singluarity, some where to. Do you mind shinning a torch , so i can find it
[20:02] <lordievader> This is what bazhang means, offtopic chatter. We got #kubuntu-offtopic for that.
[20:22] <derloewe> Hi there. I'm using Kubuntu 15.04 and I have a problem with Kontact - it doesn't start.
[20:29] <derloewe> there could be an issue with the akonadi-server... hello, is there anybody out there?
[20:29] <genii> derloewe: If you try to start it from inside Konsole, is there any informative output?
[20:33] <derloewe> genil: yeah. where can i paste the output?
[20:33] <derloewe> sorry... your name is <genii>
[20:34] <genii> !pastebin | derloewe
[20:36] <derloewe> genii: Okay, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10881126/ ... here is the output.
[20:39] <genii> Yeah looks like there's some akonadi messages in there, among other things
[20:41] <derloewe> So ... what can I do?
[20:41] <genii> derloewe: The problem looks to be beyond a simple fix which I could give you. I would report a bug for it.
[20:44] <Chaser_> Hi, on kubuntu 15.04 is there a way to set 24 hour time on digital clock ?
[20:44] <derloewe> Okay, thank you. Kubuntu 15.04 is quite "new", so there can be some issues? I can still view my mails using Firefox and the web-interface of GMail...
[20:45] <genii> derloewe: Yes, on every new release there is always some kinks and growing pains for the first few months after it comes out. The best thing is look at launchpad for kmail bugs and see if that one is known already, if so add to that report. If no existing one same symptoms, start a new report.
[20:45] <qdata> my very first attempt at looking at 15.04 in Vbox is a fail; I so wish they would revisit this 'must release on some deadline'  and reconsider 'release when ready'
[20:46] <qdata> if it can't pass some early tests in vbox I'm not going to format my hard drive and install....
[20:47] <genii> qdata: I saw something of this earlier in another channel... one moment...
[20:47] <lordievader> qdata: In KVM Vivid works fine.
[20:48] <derloewe> genii: thanks a lot for your help. i will take a look at launchpad for kmail.
[20:51] <genii> qdata: Earlier in #xubuntu, a user could not install 15.04 into virtualbox which was running on a 14.04 host system. It was recommended to remove the repository version of virtualbox and install the Oracle version, which worked in that case.
[20:51] <qdata> I made the mistake of letting the driver manager thingy install the vbox guest extensions, now I have no mouse and the menu bar at bottom has crashed out and disappearred
[20:52] <genii> ( after they also installed the latest guest additions after going to the Oracle version )
[20:52] <qdata> I'm going to do another fresh install and not do that on #2
[20:52] <qdata> genii: thanks
[20:53] <qdata> I have a little time to play but when it runs out and I have to go back to work I'm done
[20:54] <qdata> I do backup with Clonezilla images so I can do a hard drive install if I want and if I don't like it I can always roll back
[20:55] <qdata> but right now I gotta have my workstation up for $real_life work, maybe over the weekend I'll try a real install and see
[21:05] <a5001> HI - Trying to install Kubuntu via usb iso - but come up with error "stdin: not a typewriter" anyone know what this means?
[21:13] <mparillo> Chaser_: I opened https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340982
[21:15] <mparillo> Chaser_: The way I understand it (and I am not technical), basically in Plasma 5 these kind of configs are inherited from Qt, and if Qt does not support it for your locale, you can try a different one, but the kind of configuration you used to be able to do in System Settings in Plasma 4 is not available in Plasma 5. .
[21:16] <mparillo> Chaser_: I think the developers would prefer Qt implement it directly, users consider it a functional regression.
[21:28] <nfk|laptop> how is color management supposed to be done with 15.04?
[21:28] <soee_> i dont think its ported yet
[21:28] <soee_> one moment
[21:29] <nfk|laptop> oyranos or that shitcolord?
[21:31] <soee_> hm im not usre
[21:32] <lordievader> Doesn't oyranos work in Plasma5?
[21:32] <nfk|laptop> it's not shipped by default
[21:32] <nfk|laptop> kwin seems to have hooks for it, though
[21:32] <nfk|laptop> which is why i'm asking how it's supposed to be done so that i can enable it
[21:33] <nfk|laptop> up to 15.04 gnome's colord was used but that failure couldn't even manage to set edit much less proper color management
[21:33] <nfk|laptop> *edit profile
[21:33] <nfk|laptop> *set profile from edid
[21:37] <nfk|laptop> reboot
[21:50] <nfk|laptop> btw, is anyone seeing bad performance with Intel(R) WiFi Link 5100 AGN?
[21:51] <nfk|laptop> ssh as well as pure tcp are showing less than 20% of the former performance
[21:56] <PhilippeP> ''evening
[21:57] <nfk|laptop> actually, 20% turned out to be an overstatement, just more than 50% speed drop though jitter is really bad
[21:57] <nfk|laptop> i'm seeing seconds with like 0 kb/s
[21:58] <PhilippeP> After dist-upgrading last night , I was stuck at logon screen ... after investigation , the problem was my user was not in nopasswdlogin group ... after adding myself to that group login worked ... Hurray !
[21:59] <nfk|laptop> aha, it's negotiated much higher rate than in the past, could that be causing issues?
[22:05] <Chaser_> mparillo: thanks a lot. will checkout the bug report.
[22:14] <typhoon_2099> Is anyone else having trouble after upgrading to 15.04? I'm booting into a blank screen (after a breif flash of "starting version 219"). I've checked the Googlewebs and tried to restart the sddm service but this has not had any effect. I can still boot in with startx.
[22:16] <genii> typhoon_2099: Are you using sddm or lightdm for login manager, and do you have multiple displays? A bug earlier today if lightdm and multiple monitors:  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1410406
[22:17] <genii> typhoon_2099: The current workaround is in the 9th post there
[22:18] <typhoon_2099> I did have multiple displays but my first debuig step was to purge the nvidia drivers, so my HDMI port should not be functioning. I'm using SDDM as my login manager, I removed lightdm in case there was a conflict.
[22:19] <genii> typhoon_2099: Does lsmod show that nouveau is loaded?
[22:20] <typhoon_2099> lsmod | grep nouveau
[22:20] <typhoon_2099> nouveau 1400832 2
[22:20] <typhoon_2099> mxm_wmi 16384 1 nouveau
[22:20] <typhoon_2099> ttm 98304 1 nouveau
[22:20] <typhoon_2099> i2c_algo_bit 16384 2 i915,nouveau
[22:20] <typhoon_2099> drm_kms_helper 122880 2 i915,nouveau
[22:20] <unopaste> typhoon_2099 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:21] <genii> typhoon_2099: Perhaps I should have specified to use a pastebin :)
[22:22] <typhoon_2099> Haha, yeah I didn't consider I'd be muted, I'm not on IRC too often (just getting back into it). It does appear to be working though, i even managed to get DOTA 2 running.
[22:23] <genii> Hm, i915. So this looks like Optimus or similar nvidia/intel hybrid card
[22:23] <genii> ( i915 is Intel driver)
[22:24] <typhoon_2099> It's a GT630M/Intel HD 5000.
[22:28] <genii> typhoon_2099: I would suggest to install again the nvidia drivers, first from official repositories and see if that helps. Also to put GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nouveau.nomodeset=1"  into /etc/default/grub after that and sudo update-grub
[22:28] <genii> Bah.
[22:33] <typhoon_2099> I just tried running `sddm-greeter --test-mode` in the konsole and noticed the following error:file:///Main.qml: File not found
[22:34] <typhoon_2099> It looks like the issue may be related to the theme?
[22:35] <genii> Possible
[22:35] <genii> typhoon_2099: You had left earlier just before I had a recommendetion... i will repost it
[22:36] <typhoon_2099> Sorry, rebooted to trya gain
[22:36] <genii> typhoon_2099: I would suggest to install again the nvidia drivers, first from official repositories and see if that helps. Also to put GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nouveau.nomodeset=1" into /etc/default/grub after that and sudo update-grub
[22:36] <darthanubis> http://picpaste.com/snapshot6-HnYUdtkt.png
[22:36] <typhoon_2099> *again
[22:38] <typhoon_2099> Okay, I'll give that a go and see what happens
[22:39] <genii> typhoon_2099: The next tactic would be to add the xorg-edgers PPA and use those drivers
[22:39] <typhoon_2099> I was using those before.
[22:39] <darthanubis> http://picpaste.com/snapshot9-b4pvbmvx.png
[22:39] <typhoon_2099> I'll try nvidia-346-updates
[22:41] <typhoon_2099> If this does not work then I may try `sddm --example-config > /etc/sddm.conf` and see what happens
[22:42] <genii> darthanubis: For the first one - Have you tried in Konsole to install it? eg: sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer    ..and maybe get some additional info if it fails
[22:42] <darthanubis> It installs and doesn't fail. It removes and doesn't fail. But this notice remains in either case
[22:45] <genii> darthanubis: As for the Quassel, no immediate idea on it, sorry.
[22:45] <darthanubis> I really don't care if quassel gets fixed or not. I just want to sort this kde daemon notification aberration.
[22:47] <genii> I do know the Quassel devs were experiencing issues with porting it to the new framework. For now I'm staying on the 14.10 until such things are sorted.
[22:50] <rosco_y> Just now trying to setup my hp laserjet.  The test page printed.  I send it a small test job and it does nothing, but after a half-minute, it reports the job as "completed".  Does anyone have advice?
[22:51] <darthanubis> you are missing some more hp packages, and there is a hp test to run from cmdline
[22:51] <darthanubis> run hp-check from cmdline
[22:52] <rosco_y> darthanubis: ty, I'll try google in that direction for a while :)
[22:53] <rosco_y> wow, that does give a lot of feedback....
[22:53] <darthanubis> hp-doctor
[22:58] <rosco_y> darthanubis: ty, I'll look at that too...
[22:59] <rosco_y> I like this hp-doctor--not only finds the trouble, it's fixing it too (fingers x'd)
[23:00] <darthanubis> yup
[23:06] <darthanubis> can anyone repoduce my first issue?
[23:07] <rosco_y> hp-check reported a lots of missing depencies and hp-doctor cleared up everything, so all the status' are OK now, test page printed, but not printing from gvim ('asdf')....maybe reboot?
[23:12] <rosco_y> Well, my think is that a reboot couldn't hurt anything, although I'm pretty sure that some linux gurus would reprimend me, saying "You should almost never need to reboot your linux."....
[23:28] <Taggnostr4> Hello
[23:29] <Taggnostr4> I just upgraded my computer to kubuntu 15.04 and now it's getting stuck on the loading screen just after the login
[23:30] <Taggnostr4> kwin_x11 is eating all the CPU and the loading bar doesn't seem to advance
[23:30] <darthanubis> what kind of computer??
[23:30] <Taggnostr4> Any idea how can I fix this?
[23:30] <darthanubis> what was running on it before
[23:30] <darthanubis> what kind of graphics card?
[23:31] <Taggnostr4> An old laptop, it was running 14.10, nvidia graphics
[23:31] <darthanubis> you upgraded or fresh installed?
[23:31] <Taggnostr4> Upgraded
[23:31] <darthanubis> ack
[23:32] <darthanubis> have you tried to get to tty and restart sddm?
[23:33] <Taggnostr4> During the upgrade I got a prompt that asked me to choose between lightdm and sddm iirc, and I pick lightdm
[23:33] <Taggnostr4> Maybe I should switch to sddm?
[23:34] <Taggnostr4> Not sure how to switch/restart it though
[23:36] <darthanubis> Just install sddm and it will ask you to choose again
[23:36] <darthanubis> you know how to get a fresh tty right
[23:36] <darthanubis> ctrl-alt-fn
[23:36] <Taggnostr4> Yes
[23:36] <darthanubis> cool
[23:37] <Taggnostr4> Should I just apt-get it?
[23:37] <Taggnostr4> It seems already installed
[23:38] <darthanubis> now uninstall lightdm
[23:39] <Taggnostr4> Done. Should I reboot now?
[23:41] <darthanubis> yup
[23:41] <darthanubis> bb in 10mins myself
[23:42] <Taggnostr4> OK
[23:43] <stormchaser3000> hi
[23:43] <stormchaser3000> um i am using kubuntu 15.04 and um.
[23:43] <Taggnostr4> Now it passed the loading screen but it's all black
[23:43] <stormchaser3000> how do i change the color of the orion gtk theme?
[23:45] <stormchaser3000> would be nice to not have to use oxygen-gtk to be able to change the gtk colors
[23:50] <odmen> hey ppl
[23:50] <odmen> is anybody uses kubuntu 15.04?
[23:50] <odmen> how good is it?
[23:51] <odmen> is there any way to upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04, or only fresh install?
[23:51] <Taggnostr4> The login screen looks nice, haven't managed going last that yet :)
[23:51] <Dragnslcr> I think you have to upgrade to 14.10 first, then you can upgrade to 15.04
[23:52] <odmen> arrgggh shame..
[23:52] <odmen> it looks very nice, but what about stability?
[23:59] <Taggnostr4> darthanubis, even with sddm as default desktop manager, kwin_x11 is eating all the CPU


[01:21] <jthan> Evening guys
[01:22] <rmg51> o/
[01:23] <jthan> What's crackin?
[01:23] <rmg51> not much
[01:24] <rmg51> I just figured out how to get my new printer to print wireless
[01:25] <jthan> nice
[01:25] <rmg51> LibreOffice was giving me trouble
[01:26] <rmg51> I found out you have to set the printer up from within the app
[01:27] <rmg51> no more switching cables :-D
[10:06] <rmg51> Morning
[10:32] <JonathanD> Morning.
[11:14] <waltman> morning
[11:21] <InHisName> good saturday morning
[11:25]  * waltman yawns
[11:26] <waltman> I'm ready for standard time. Getting tired of it being dark at 7:30.
[14:15] <InHisName> what is sequence of files being loaded at VERY begining of booting linux ?
[14:15] <InHisName> What loads before rc.conf ?   anything after it ?
[14:16] <InHisName> Is there a nifty website that gives blow by blow from grub to login ?
[14:20] <InHisName> googling: "details"  "grub to login"    hasn't turned up anything useful yet.
[19:05] <anduril> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/255161/comments/28 thats...awesome