[00:01] <peterbuldge> Anybody else having a problem wirh gtk3 apps not following the kde color scheme in 20.10? Currently set to Breeze Dark, but no gtk3 apps are following it. What's weird is that the preview of the of the theme in settings looks right, just any of the actual apps.
[00:01] <peterbuldge> *just not any of the actual apps
[00:08] <user|50730> can i use KUbuntu with a dell dock d100..i have problems with debian rcognizing external monitor  connected to the dock with DispalyPOrt
[00:42] <tomreyn> user|50730: just try it out, get an iso and boot it
[02:08] <][04|-050PYCKi> can you tell me where the application error logs and the distribution shell are stored ?
[02:10] <][04|-050PYCKi> the system settings shell does not start
[07:12] <bittin-M> foss-north Online #2 starts in 5-10 minutes
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwHvm4OIkIc https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4cwcZrFCHKh2YTD46XwSRq
[10:29] <user|8955> aaaa
[10:29] <user|8955> dd
[11:59] <user|8032> Hi
[12:01] <user|8032> I install kubuntu 20.10 but i recive err unable to install grub /dev/sda
[12:02] <user|8032> i change sda to sdb and sdc but it not working
[13:16] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 @user|8032, Disconnect all drives except the one you're installing into?
[14:56] <Guest75298> I cant upgrade to focal fossa. can anyone help?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> Guest75298, how are you upgrading?
[15:04] <Guest75298> Thru the update window. I get error because od non official software channels. I tried to disconnect them but still the same
[15:04] <Guest75298> ...
[15:10] <Guest75298> And I get this error message "usando o comando 'ubuntu-bug ubuntu-release-upgrader-core' no terminal"
[15:10] <BluesKaj> which release are you running?
[15:10] <Guest75298> 18.08 LTS
[15:12] <BluesKaj> I assume you mean 18.04 LTS
[15:12] <Guest75298> thats it
[15:15] <Guest75298> the update starts and then is stopped and I get this message...
[15:15] <BluesKaj> Guest75298, open /etc/apt/sources.list.d and remove any sources there except chrome if they exist, then set your package manager sources to LTS only then open a terminal and run sudo apt update;sudo apt upgrade. Then run sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:20] <user|85412> Hello
[15:25] <Guest75298> i will try now.. brb
[15:42] <Guest75298> same error again...
[15:43] <BluesKaj> do you any ppas in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> have
[15:45] <Guest75298> yes. a few. balena etcher, brave browser, graphics driver and lutris files
[15:45] <BluesKaj> or any other non-default added repos in your  /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:46] <BluesKaj> open those and place a # in front of the url line on them
[15:47] <BluesKaj> then save the file and try again
[15:48] <Guest75298> non default i removed them all.
[15:48] <Guest75298> how do I open that?
[15:48] <Guest75298> with notepad?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> kate
[15:52] <Guest75298> the # is already in front of the urls
[15:55] <Guest75298> after running "ubuntu-bug ubuntu-release-upgrader-core" I get  (apport-gtk:13316): dbind-WARNING **: 15:43:15.118: Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files
[15:55] <Guest75298> comm: /var/log/dmesg: Ficheiro ou directoria inexistente
 What happend to the release notes?
 Here https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/ is says: … Kubuntu 20.10 release notes (currently not available due to wiki login problems) … But a week has past since release...
[17:51] <Mamarok> well, the wiki login problems haven't been solved yet, or are you an expert on moin moin weirdness?
 Not really 😊 I just noticed the other *buntu's having their release notes posted.
[21:39] <jilocasin> evening everyone
[21:40] <jilocasin> I've just upgraded from Kubuntu 20.04 to 20.10 and now none of the onboard audio options are showing up?
[21:40] <jilocasin> Anyone have any ideas?
[21:43] <tomreyn> !audio | jilocasin
[21:44] <tomreyn> that's partially outdated, but still helps for the most part
[21:46] <jilocasin> tomreyn: thanks I'll take a look.  It's an Intel ALC3861 that was working fine under 20.04.  Looking in /proc/ascound/cards it's now incorrectly listed as being an *HDMI* caased card?
[21:47] <Dragnslcr> jilocasin- I saw someone else mention that they had audio issues, and that booting into a previous kernel fixed it
 I saw too. In my case rebooting worked. I haven't chased the root cause yet.
[22:06] <Mamarok> I had to fire up pavucontrol to actually enable the sound
[22:07] <Mamarok> works now in all kernels
[22:12] <jilocasin> 'ello again
[22:12] <jilocasin> just rebooted to make sure the fix *stuck*
[22:14] <jilocasin> added 'options snd-hda-intel model=auto' to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[22:14] <jilocasin> just in case it might help someone else who is having the same problems.
[22:15] <jilocasin> Thanks for the help everyone.
 @Mamarok, Yes, that's my goto resolution normally. But in this case my sound device is normally duplex, and now it was detected as input only. So pav did not help. I think the problem is non-kde.
 Hello … I installed Kubuntu 20.10 but when installing it throw an error : … unable to install grub /dev/sda(this is fatal error) … this error even existing in Xubuntu but in 20.04 in all flavor all stuff is ok.
 @SO_SH_66, Windows dual boot?
 @YesEyeCan, yes … mbr
 I had this problem when Windows repartitioned their drive from a huge update
 My solution was to make a new updated ISO and reinstalled windows first and update everything
 Then disconnect all drives except the boot drive, and reinstalled Kubuntu
 @YesEyeCan, I can't reinstall windows because i have lots of data
 Are you able to boot into windows?
 Because that error made it unbootable for me
 @YesEyeCan, yes even kubuntu … but when installing i receive error: … setup is crashed
 I've no other solutions then
 Maybe try unplugging any extra drives, and reformat Kubuntu's partition before reinstalling again
 @YesEyeCan, I have a ssd and hdd … Could be this the reason? … But in kubuntu 20.04 all thing is ok
 @SO_SH_66, I've seen people recommend unplugging any unused drives first before installing
 Maybe try that


[00:03] <ochosi> Unit193: i think before i can actually merge your stuff, we have to branch off a new version
[00:03] <ochosi> trunk is still pointing to saucy
[00:05] <Unit193> ochosi: Likely.  I saw that, yeah.
[00:05] <Unit193> (This is my form of avoiding a bug report.)
[00:05] <ochosi> gotta see whether i'm allowed to do that
[00:05] <ochosi> so far mr_pouit was handling that
[00:05] <ochosi> god i really don't like bzr
[00:06] <ochosi> Unit193: i also prefer that to a bugreport btw
[00:06] <Unit193> \o/
[00:06] <Unit193> ochosi: Simple, have bzr autoimport and work with git. :----D
[00:10] <ochosi> yeah, i'd really prefer that
[00:11] <Unit193> I'd not be able to merge anymore, though.
[00:12] <ochosi> yeah, there'd have to be a new merge request against the correct series i guess
[00:12] <ochosi> as soon as i have read up on the docs on how to do that
[00:14] <Unit193> I'd presume you can retarget.
[00:26] <ochosi> andrzejr: it seems like the wrapper3 branch breaks the panel's background settings in general and not just for the gtk3 indicators, can you confirm that? (e.g. alpha or setting a background color)
[00:37] <ochosi> ali1234: have you noticed that as well? ^
[00:37] <ochosi> (just to rule out any packaging problems)
[01:35] <bluesabre> ochosi: I haven't been able to use alpha since the wrapper3 branch
[01:36] <ochosi> hey bluesabre
[01:36] <bluesabre> hey ochosi
[01:36] <ochosi> yeah, as i know/remember now it's a known issue (see recent backlog in #xfce-dev)
[01:36] <bluesabre> gotcha
[01:37] <bluesabre> btw, next week we should start patching xfce4-power-manager with some sort of light-locker support
[01:37] <ochosi> well, that and logind i guess
[01:38] <ochosi> what issue are you thinking of specifically?
[01:38] <ochosi> i thought powermanager uses xflock to lock the session?
[01:39] <bluesabre> it does, but I think there was something we wanted to add to it
[01:39] <ochosi> so as long as that is patched, all locking should work fine (light-locker autolocks on suspend)
[01:39] <bluesabre> (I just don't remember what)
[01:39] <ochosi> :)
[01:39] <ochosi> i guess basic 1) logind stuff would be good
[01:40] <ochosi> and 2) a way of setting X11's screensaver timeout
[01:41] <bluesabre> also, I don't know when it started working well, but indicator-datetime is definitely A-OK with my panel atm
[01:42] <ochosi> ah
[01:42] <ochosi> nice to hear
[01:42] <ochosi> gotta try that one then
[01:43] <ochosi> evolution-data-server-common is a bit of a nasty dependency though, no?
[01:44] <bluesabre> yeah, definitely
[01:44] <ochosi> hm, doesnt work so well here
[01:44] <ochosi> the time-layout isn't configurable easily
[01:44] <bluesabre> might be a custom one that I picked up from the cinnamon ppa
[01:44] <ochosi> and the application links are all broken
[01:45] <bluesabre> true
[01:45] <bluesabre> its not perfect :D
[01:45] <bluesabre> just not as crashy as it used to be
[01:48] <ochosi> hehe
[02:14] <ali1234> ochosi: what do you mean?
[02:16] <ali1234> i set the panel background to an image: only the indicator plugin background changed
[08:03] <elfy> DanChapman: welcome to a real channel :p
[08:03] <Noskcaj> hey DanChapman
[08:04] <DanChapman> elfy lol :-D
[08:04] <DanChapman> hey Noskcaj I see you have had another go with autopilot :-)
[08:04] <elfy> DanChapman: you had any luck getting autopilot working with our apps ?
[08:04] <elfy> has anyone ...
[08:04]  * elfy has been afi a bit
[08:05] <DanChapman> elfy are you about later? I wanted to talk to you about exactly that
[08:05]  * DanChapman has the dreaded school run to deal with
[08:05] <elfy> I'm off to work in 30 minutes - back ~4ish till late
[08:06] <elfy> shall I ping you?
[08:06] <Noskcaj> DanChapman, My autopilot attempt ending in transmission-gtk and xfce both no supporting autopilot, so good work me
[08:06] <Noskcaj> elfy, If i'm around, ping me too. And i think ld eran is also interested in testdrive
[08:07] <elfy> Noskcaj: lderan should be interested in autopilot, not sure what the crack is with testdrive - but yea I'll ping anyone I think should be aware
[08:08] <Noskcaj> oops, i meant autopilot.
[08:08] <Noskcaj> stupid brain
[08:09] <DanChapman> elfy yeah ping me i'll be lurking in the shadows all day today so when ever your free :-)
[08:09] <elfy> Noskcaj: I've got one of those too :)
[08:10] <elfy> DanChapman: okey doke
[09:24] <ochosi> ali1234: i meant this commit, as i later realized: http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/commit/?id=ac4c4e70e7312d133ae3a6885412aa41d9fb11cf
[10:39] <slickymaster> morning all
[10:41] <ochosi> morning
[10:50] <slickymaster> ochosi: read the logs of what you've discussed with jjfrv8 about xfdesktop, yesterday
[10:51] <ochosi> slickymaster: ah good
[10:52] <slickymaster> ochosi: today's is dedicated to xfdesktop. I'm putting my wiki.community side project with knome on hold ;)
[10:52] <ochosi> awesome! :)
[10:53] <ochosi> i'll try to be available in what is the afternoon here
[10:57] <lderan> elfy: sounds good, ping away :D
[13:12] <brainwash> ochosi: abiword ruler broken in trusty, the ruler is partially hidden by a plain grey area
[13:50] <sergiobenrocha2> hello
[13:51] <sergiobenrocha2> nvidia-331-updates is not a bumblebee dependency?
[13:51] <sergiobenrocha2> for trusty?
[13:55] <sergiobenrocha2> well, bumblebee-nvidia
[14:28] <ochosi> brainwash: meh, again?
[14:29] <ochosi> they should really stop breaking that stupid ruler
[14:31] <brainwash> ochosi: greybird and orion are affected, so it's likely that more/all themes are
[14:31] <ochosi> brainwash: dunno what version of greybird (i assume you mean greybird?) you have, but i just fixed this a few months ago (again): https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/commit/490f43a76c292652da1f7245f36aa85a64cf273b
[14:32] <ochosi> if you can, please show me a screenshot of how it looks
[14:32] <ochosi> so i can say for sure that it's a theme issue
[14:32] <ochosi> or even better: find a theme with which it works
[14:33] <ochosi> does it look like this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shimmer-themes/+bug/1043508/+attachment/3282601/+files/abiword.png
[14:33] <brainwash> no
[14:33] <brainwash> the ruler is fine actually, but the top part is covered behind a grey area
[14:34] <brainwash> wait a minute
[14:35] <brainwash> also noticed that a right click on the window button panel item opens the context menu, but it's positioned strange, not where you clicked, but from the center of the window button and it's aligned to the left side
[14:35] <brainwash> new?
[14:35] <ochosi> yeah
[14:35] <brainwash> or was it that way all the time?
[14:35] <ochosi> hm, well
[14:35] <ochosi> tbh i never use abiword
[14:35] <ochosi> so i wouldn't really know
[14:36] <ochosi> i only install it when i have to fix theming bugs in it
[14:36] <ochosi> but this doesn't really sound like a theming bug in a way
[14:37] <brainwash> well, I opened to it to debug the xfwm4 "bug" (does not switch between windows of the same application, e.g. Abiword)
[14:40] <brainwash> ochosi: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/abiword.php
[14:45] <brainwash> it disappears and reappears occasionally when switching themes
[14:49] <brainwash> and this also did break greaybird-git now
[14:49] <brainwash> the gtk3 panel indicator item
[14:50] <brainwash> it's partially transparent now :D
[14:51] <ochosi> did you restart abiword after changing themes?
[14:51] <brainwash> no
[14:51] <ochosi> gtk3 apps mostly don't work with switching themes without restarting them
[14:51] <ochosi> in gtk2 that works, but with gtk3 apps you have to restart them
[14:52] <ochosi> otherwise you get all kinds of funky artifacts
[14:52] <brainwash> ok, but it's broken initially
[14:52] <brainwash> and switching themes does fix it occasionally
[14:52] <ochosi> weird
[14:53] <ochosi> well it's abiword...
[14:53] <ochosi> uses lots of weird code and widgets
[14:53] <brainwash> =S
[14:53] <ochosi> it's a good reason to discuss whether we should really include it by default in 14.04
[14:54] <ochosi> or maybe switch to an opt-in model for libreoffice (if that's at all doable in ubiquity)
[14:54] <ochosi> knome: what do you think? ^
[14:54] <brainwash> oh man, the libreoffice discussion again :)
[14:56] <ochosi> :>
[14:56] <ochosi> bbl
[15:47] <knome> ochosi, meh
[17:30] <brainwash> ochosi: do you feel like taking a look at this new ruler issue? or should I just file a report against abiword and gtk3 (3.10)?
[18:40] <slickymaster> ochosi: http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=xfdesktop-docs:usage#background and http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=xfdesktop-docs:usage#icons items of the http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=xfdesktop-docs:usage are done, just remaining the http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=xfdesktop-docs:usage#menus item to be done
[18:40] <slickymaster> ping me if you feel there's something that needs changes
[18:41] <slickymaster> jjfrv8: ^^^
[18:46] <slickymaster> bbl
[19:00] <elfy> DanChapman: I'm sort of about now
[19:36] <ochosi> brainwash: well tbh it doesn't really seem to be a theming issue, so not my department ;)
[19:39] <ochosi> i'd file a regular bug vs abiword and gtk3.10
[19:39] <ochosi> or possibly just abiword
[19:40] <brainwash> it worked in unity and lubuntu (only started it once)
[19:40] <brainwash> so something strange is going on
[19:41] <brainwash> well, why do I even care about an app which I only open/close and don't use at all
[19:41] <elfy> I'm not seeing anything odd with abiword here
[19:41] <brainwash> and libreoffice is getting better and better
[19:42] <brainwash> could it be caused by the gtk3 indicator panel item?!
[19:46] <ochosi> nah, that's rather unrelated
[20:44] <andrzejr> brainwash, ochosi, that menu positioning is another issue with gtk3, and also related to "windows-less" widgets
[20:44] <ochosi> hey andrzejr
[20:44] <andrzejr> hi
[20:45] <brainwash> andrzejr: ok
[20:45] <brainwash> ochosi: I know, I need to test and verify it
[20:46] <brainwash> but elfy cannot confirm it and it does work in unity and lubuntu
[20:46] <ochosi> so maybe an issue in your setup
[20:47] <brainwash> like what? I've installed the gtk3 indicator panel item
[20:47] <brainwash> which also behaves weirdly
[20:47] <ochosi> andrzejr: it's strange though, we also use eventboxes in parole, i didn't notice any changes with the move to gtk3
[20:49] <ochosi> andrzejr: i mean stuff like not drawing any background or making the background of the underlying widget transparent
[20:49] <ochosi> but maybe that's the problem with gtk2+gtk3?
[20:50] <Unit193> ochosi: So, that's a won't fix type thing? :/
[20:51] <ochosi> Unit193: you mean the panel background stuff?
[20:51] <Unit193> Aye.
[20:52] <ochosi> it's marked as FIXME in the code
[21:08] <andrzejr> ochosi, maybe that's because of the way the panel handles transparency
[21:10] <ochosi> possible
[21:10] <ochosi> i'm tempted to ask "how does it work?", but i don't wanna waste your time
[21:13] <ochosi> maybe you're right and it's best if nick takes a look at it
[21:15] <andrzejr> I've been looking into it (background and menu positioning) for quite some time and failed. I roughly know what is going on (so I have added a workaround) but I don't know how to fix it properly.
[21:16] <ochosi> you could sum up your thoughts in an email to nick, he seems to respond to those more actively than to irc lately
[21:21] <ochosi> bbiab
[21:26] <andrzejr> done
[21:29] <slickymaster> good night all
[22:09] <Unit193> ali1234: A chance you'll give the option to disable zoom support in Window Manager Tweaks?
[23:20] <ali1234> Unit193: i don't know how to make options
[23:21] <ochosi> ali1234: it's not terribly hard, this would be an example (it's a bit noisy and does other stuff too, but i think you'll get the idea): http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/commit/?h=ochosi/tabwin&id=142904be056f9d469726848c61d8ff33e97fae4c
[23:44] <sergiobenrocha2> hello
[23:44] <sergiobenrocha2> anyone?
[23:44] <ochosi> !hello
[23:45] <knome> heh.
[23:45] <sergiobenrocha2> bumblebee-nvidia from trusty has a dependency problem
[23:45] <ochosi> hmpf, we should add a factoid for that...
[23:45] <knome> ochosi, i added one at least for #x!
[23:45] <knome> i'll ask ubottu
[23:45] <ochosi> thanks knome
[23:45] <sergiobenrocha2> bumblebee-nvidia should depend on nvidia-331 or nvidia-331-updates
[23:46] <sergiobenrocha2> is it better to try in ubuntu+1 channel?
[23:46] <ochosi> yeah
[23:46] <sergiobenrocha2> ok
[23:46] <ochosi> we're not involved with this kinda stuff at all tbh
[23:46] <ochosi> i mean the whole nvidia packaging
[23:46] <brainwash> why not file a bug report on launchpad?
[23:46] <knome> !hi | ochosi
[23:46] <knome> hmm.
[23:47] <ochosi> :]
[23:47] <knome> !hello | ochosi
[23:47] <sergiobenrocha2> because my system has lot of stuff that not is official
[23:47] <knome> !hi | ochosi
[23:47]  * knome slaps ubottu
[23:47] <knome> !usage | ochosi
[23:47] <knome> !hi | ochosi
[23:47] <knome> huh?
[23:47] <ochosi> hehe
[23:48] <knome> well it should work.
[23:48] <ochosi> seems you gotta teach ubottu a lesson
[23:48] <brainwash> sergiobenrocha2: so? does that matter?
[23:48] <knome> !hi
[23:48] <knome> yep.
[23:48] <knome> just some surge protection probably ;)
[23:48] <knome> sorry for the mess.


[22:42] <TJ-> Wolf_Y: Is the effect you're trying to achieve that the TV thinks the plex in the VM is actually running on the host itself ?
[22:43] <Wolf_Y> TJ-:  no, my only goal is that plex can see the folder, that i can share files using samba to the ubuntu, and that my tv can see the plex
[22:44] <akik> Wolf_Y: did you try accessing your samba server with smbclient? that way you could verify the permissions too
[22:45] <bugzbunny> I am kinda getting the picture, but if Plex is running inside the Ubuntu server
[22:45] <pavlos> seems he is able to R/W small files but when streaming a movie it croaks
[22:45] <bugzbunny> Why are you using samba shares with Plex?
[22:45] <bugzbunny> Why not point Plex to the folder
[22:46] <Wolf_Y> im using samba so that my host can access the folders in ubuntu, so that i can send files from the host to that folder
[22:46] <bugzbunny> That part I understand
[22:46] <bugzbunny> In Plex settings, you are point it also to a Samba share?
[22:46] <Wolf_Y> i did not try using smbclient, not sure how it works, but i uses chmod 777 so i think the perms are all right
[22:46] <TJ-> Wolf_Y: so Plex is on PC A, Hyper-V and the VM with samba is on PC B, and there's the TV ?
[22:47] <Wolf_Y> no there is a PC a, hyper-v with ubuntu server and plex is also on pc A
[22:47] <bugzbunny> TJ-: From I understand, Plex and Ubuntu, and Samba, all running under Hyper-V
[22:47] <Wolf_Y> and there is tv
[22:47] <Wolf_Y> yea bugzbunny
[22:47] <TJ-> Wolf_Y: ahhh... is Plex in another VM on PC A ?
[22:47] <bugzbunny> No
[22:47] <bugzbunny> Same VM
[22:47] <bugzbunny> The Ubuntu Server 17.10.1
[22:48] <Wolf_Y> in plex i point it to the folder in ubuntu bugzbunny  /home/user/name
[22:48] <Wolf_Y> and yes same vm
[22:48] <bugzbunny> He is using Samba to push files to VM, so Plex can use, to stream to his TV
[22:49] <TJ-> I'm confused. Samba is a server, it doesn't 'push'
[22:49] <Wolf_Y> yes bugzbunny that is the whole idea
[22:50] <bugzbunny> TJ-: He using Samba as file-server to transfer files to the Ubuntu Server that is also running plex
[22:50] <Wolf_Y> but for some reason in my current bridged network setup the 'pushing part' is not working as it should be
[22:50] <bugzbunny> Got it?
[22:50] <bugzbunny> Cause I got it
[22:50] <Wolf_Y> exaclty bugzbunny
[22:50] <TJ-> Wolf_Y: so, you can copy small files (what is small?) to the samba server but not large files (how large?)
[22:50] <bugzbunny> In your Plex settings, for media sources, you using Samba as a backend?
[22:51] <Wolf_Y> TJ-:  lets say i can not transfer anything
[22:51] <Wolf_Y> in my current bridger network setup, only i can see the folders
[22:51] <TJ-> Wolf_Y: well let's be 100% accurate; detail is important!
[22:51] <Wolf_Y> bugzbunny:  for media source in plex i use the ubuntu location of the folder with the media
[22:51] <TJ-> Wolf_Y: by "only I can see" what do you mean? which OS? Windows on PC A, Ubuntu in the VM?
[22:52] <bugzbunny> Okay
[22:52] <Wolf_Y> bugzbunny:  /home/userfolder
[22:52] <Wolf_Y> TJ-:  in windows, host machine
[22:52] <Wolf_Y> but not in plex
[22:53] <Wolf_Y> i can for example transfer subtitles for movies to the samba share, but the movie i cant
[22:53] <Wolf_Y> that is what i mean by small and large
[22:53] <bugzbunny> Wolf_Y: When you visit the Plex Web-UI, you are not setting the videos?
[22:53] <TJ-> Wolf_Y: OK, well that is important detail.
[22:54] <bugzbunny> Is both Samba and You Plex Settings pointing to the right folder?
[22:54] <Wolf_Y> yes they are
[22:54] <pavlos> so 10MB subtitle is small but 4GB movie is large
[22:54] <Wolf_Y> and in plex i can point to the folder but the folders shows empty
[22:55] <TJ-> Wolf_Y: is hyper-v imposing a firewall of any kind? does the Ubuntu VM have any netfilter (iptables/ufw) rules
[22:55] <bugzbunny> Alright, then the problem might be in Plex
[22:55] <Wolf_Y> but when i just unbridge the connection and get back to the 172.x.x.x DHCP ip on ubuntu, plex can see the files inside the folders but tv, samba 'push' works but the tv can not see the plex
[22:56] <Wolf_Y> and yes i added the ufw 32400(plex default port) to my ubuntu server
[22:56] <Wolf_Y> bugzbunny: how so, what do you think might be in the plex, i think that i am doing something wrong with the net config....
[22:57] <Wolf_Y> is my seccond router (2xrouters in my home network) an issue maybe ?
[22:57] <TJ-> Wolf_Y: you'll need  the various samba ports allowing too - check the Ubuntu /var/log/kern.log (or "dmesg") for firewall DENY/DROP messages
[22:58] <Wolf_Y> can i share my dmesg here maybe so we can all have a look at it, would  that help
[22:58] <TJ-> Wolf_Y: sure "pastebinit <( dmesg )"
[22:58] <pavlos> use pastebin
[22:59] <Wolf_Y> alright
[22:59] <TJ-> Wolf_Y: are the movies larger than 4GiB each? is the Ubuntu file-system formatted with large-file support?
[22:59] <Wolf_Y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FZtz3NPpn9/
[23:00] <Wolf_Y> TJ-:  i think that the format is not a problem as i can copy and paste them when im using the non-bridged setup (172.x.x.x ip on Ubuntu)
[23:00] <Wolf_Y> also that is the whole dmsg
[23:00] <Wolf_Y> dmesg*
[23:00] <bugzbunny> IMHO, if you creating your libraries as describe here https://support.plex.tv/articles/200288926-creating-libraries/, it seems dubios to me, that changing from Bridge to NAT would play any significant part seeing files. Another suspect, is perhaps the Web-UI is using API running on a different port
[23:01] <TJ-> Wolf_Y: "hv_balloon: Balloon request will be partially fulfilled. Balloon floor reached" is suspicious; how much RAM does the host PC have, and how much is assigned to the VM?
[23:01] <Wolf_Y> the host has 8gb, the vm can use 4gb
[23:01] <Wolf_Y> dinamically alocated
[23:03] <Wolf_Y> bugzbunny: yea, i am adding folder like that....ill try and look for other ports that maybe need to be oppened but what do you think about the samba 'Push' issues
[23:03] <Wolf_Y> what could cause that
[23:04] <bugzbunny> If Plex is running inside a lan, I might as well just disable ufw
[23:04] <bugzbunny> Instead of searching for Ports you might need to open
[23:04] <Wolf_Y> bugzbunny:  ill do that right now, as i will be using it only LAN
[23:05] <pavlos> iirc, PC A runs Plex and a hyper-V ubuntu guest
[23:06] <pavlos> movies are in guest and he wants to pass them to plex -> TV
[23:06] <Wolf_Y> alright ufw disabled, doing a quick reboot
[23:06] <TJ-> Wolf_Y: Could this be related? https://superuser.com/questions/869500/cant-save-large-files-to-nas-but-can-save-small-ones
[23:06] <Wolf_Y> pavlos:  movies are located in the host machine, im trying to push them to the ubuntu server so that the plex can see them and with plex my tv
[23:07] <Wolf_Y> TJ-:  i think not, as i dont have any permission issues...ill take a look anyway
[23:07] <TJ-> Wolf_Y: you know instead of copying the files over you could mount the host's share in the Ubuntu server
[23:08] <TJ-> Wolf_Y: add an entry to /etc/fstab so it mounts //host/share /home/userfolder
[23:08] <Wolf_Y> TJ-: did not try that...let that be my backup plan, as i would like to solve this.....
[23:08] <TJ-> Wolf_Y: this way you don't need to duplicate the storage required
[23:08] <pavlos> if movies are in host, make that dir shared to your net and ubuntu can pick up that share mount -t cifs //host\movies /here -o credentials
[23:08] <Wolf_Y> TJ-: i thought that once i push to server i delete from host
[23:09] <Wolf_Y> not duplicating in that way
[23:09] <Wolf_Y> or dir download to server later on
[23:09] <Wolf_Y> pavlos:  i made a share from ubuntu to host using samba
[23:09] <Wolf_Y> pavlos:  but samba is acting strange
[23:10] <bugzbunny> Wolf_Y: You should always have a BACKUP somewhere
[23:10] <pavlos> I assume WORKGROUP is the same
[23:10] <bugzbunny> Wolf_Y: Or risks losing it
[23:10] <Wolf_Y> bugzbunny: i see...
[23:11] <Wolf_Y> bugzbunny:  i disabled the ufw but the samba still cant 'push', i just unbridged and it can push fine....
[23:12] <bugzbunny> Wolf_Y: So people can understand, using 'transfer' instead of 'push'
[23:12] <Wolf_Y> alright bugzbunny
[23:12] <Wolf_Y> any further ideas guys ?
[23:13] <bugzbunny> When you say you can't transfer, what is the error, I would try what TJ- and pavlos suggestions
[23:14] <bugzbunny> I think they good ideas, although I would worry about latency and such
[23:18] <Wolf_Y> bugzbunny:  the error https://ibb.co/hVCgCx
[23:20] <pavlos> can you share the D: drive on host (movies) to everyone in the network?
[23:21] <TJ-> Wolf_Y: you may have seen this, but is this how you've got Hyper-V and the host configured? https://smudj.wordpress.com/2015/05/14/windows-10-hyper-v-setting-up-networking-shared-and-bridged-options/
[23:22] <Wolf_Y> TJ-:  yes
[23:22] <Wolf_Y> that is correct
[23:23] <bugzbunny> That's why I avoid Samba where I can, so painful
[23:23] <Wolf_Y> what do you use instead of it bugzbunny
[23:23] <Wolf_Y> and what do you think now when you have seen my troubles
[23:24] <bugzbunny> I would do it the other way around, you might have more success
[23:24] <akik> bugzbunny: samba client -> samba server is pretty simple
[23:25] <bugzbunny> When I run a VM in Windows to access my Linux partition, it's always a pain to setup Samba
[23:26] <Wolf_Y> hmmm
[23:26] <Wolf_Y> its really that i would love to solve this
[23:27] <bugzbunny> Mount you Windows share inside Ubuntu, there is more success the otherway around
[23:27] <Wolf_Y> before trying any other alternatives, if you guys are up for talk then i can visually share my set-up and problem
[23:27] <Wolf_Y> bugzbunny:  will try that for sure
[23:27] <bugzbunny> I have a CIFS mount to Windows Server 2012 under QEMU, the folder setup as a Cloud folder
[23:27] <bugzbunny> Only time I've been unsuccessful is when Windows 2012 requires a reboot
[23:28] <Wolf_Y> and it is working fine i guess
[23:28] <aljoni> I'm trying to work out how to remote desktop into Ubuntu '16.04.4'.  No matter what I try I always get a grey (black and white checkerboard) but no desktop.  I've tried: xRDP, tigervnc + xRDP, vnc, tightvncserver, and xdmcp.
[23:29] <j4k3> hello
[23:29] <bugzbunny> Wolf_Y: FTP is simple alternative, in most cases, it's straight forward
[23:29] <pavlos> aljoni: I think you need a different DE for remote access
[23:29] <bugzbunny> Wolf_Y: If what you really want is to transfer from HOST to Guest
[23:29] <j4k3> can anyone see my entries?
[23:29] <aljoni> pavlos: I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place, I was told I have to use Ubuntu 16.04.4 and it's defaults.
[23:30] <j4k3> hey jane
[23:30] <DiecastMessiah> j4k3:  yes
[23:30] <pavlos> aljoni: I think another DE is xfce you can try
[23:30] <jane_booty_doe> hi
[23:30] <j4k3> thanks DiecastMessiah
[23:30] <Wolf_Y> bugzbunny: oh yes the FTP i can for sure try that right now, but the issues of plex seeing the folder reamains
[23:30] <aljoni> pavlos: I would, but I was told I have to use what's there.
  I've not had any issues connecting to a VNC server running on the machine, I'm just not getting a desktop after connecting (just a black and white checkerboard screen).
[23:41] <pavlos> aljoni: I am able to vnc to (kubuntu, lubuntu, ubuntu-mate) but not plain ubuntu. there is some issue with the DE hence they recommend xfce
[23:42] <aljoni> pavlos: I understand that completely. :(. I've got the issue however that I was explicitly told I had to set this machine up with "pure" ubuntu, with remote access to a desktop.
[23:43] <aljoni> If I could use a different DE I'd have no issue.
[23:43] <pavlos> aljoni: do you have to use vnc? other tools can view ubuntu (noMachine). That implies installing noMachine on both host and remote.
[23:44] <pavlos> aljoni: noMachine talks on port 4000
[23:44] <bugzbunny> Does anyone know an easier way to rate songs on Rythmbox?
[23:44] <bugzbunny> Instead of Right Click -> Properties -> Detials?
[23:45] <aljoni> pavlos: Do the connections go though anyone else's servers?
[23:45] <pavlos> aljoni: no, it talk on 4000 to the local subnet eg. 192.168.1.*
[23:45] <aljoni> pavlos: I'll keep it as an idea.  VNC would be preferable however.
[23:46] <aljoni> pavlos: Or remote X11.
[23:46] <pavlos> aljoni: other tool x2go
[23:46] <aljoni> pavlos: I'll have a look.
[23:46] <pavlos> aljoni: ok
[23:47] <pavlos> aljoni: https://askubuntu.com/questions/800302/vncserver-grey-screen-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[23:50] <aljoni> pavlos: I'm going to explore x2go as an option.
[23:50] <MiniMaxx> #list
[23:51] <pavlos> aljoni: I use nomachine to access all sorts of systems
[23:51] <akik> aljoni: just a warning that x2go doesn't work with gnome 3/unity
[23:51] <aljoni> pavlos: nomachine works with unity?
[23:52] <pavlos> aljoni: yes, there is a free version d/l the .deb file and dpkg -i file
[23:52] <akik> aljoni: gnome 3/unity on the server, that is
[23:53] <aljoni> Taking a look at nomachine now.
[23:55] <aljoni> All that I worry about is if, since it looks proprietary, it stops being updated and stops working in the future.
[23:56] <pavlos> aljoni: when nomachine has an update, it pops a window and d/l the update, installs, and is running again.
[23:56] <kenrin> It has been around for 16 years
[23:57] <aljoni> Can you have multiple people connected at once?
[23:57] <akik> aljoni: x2go is based on the gpl licensed v3 version of nomachine nx libs
[23:57] <bugzbunny> There is open source version, limited, not sure if there is any development activity
[23:58] <akik> bugzbunny: if you mean x2go, it's actively developed
[23:58] <pavlos> aljoni: yes, I just connected to one system from 2 diff clients
[23:58] <aljoni> Different desktops, or both seeing the same.


[10:45] <mac_v> lool: ping...
[10:50] <lool> mac_v: pong
[11:54] <and471> mac_v: hi
[11:54] <and471> mac_v: (I am rugby471 btw, changed my nick)
[11:54] <and471> mac_v: how is humanity coming along?
[11:54] <mac_v> and471: imposter... i dont believe you ;p
[11:55] <and471> mac_v: hehe
[11:55] <and471> and471: that proves it is still me, no one else says 'hehe' after everything :-)
[11:55] <mac_v> and471: what is *and* 471 ... ... rugby was better ;p
[11:56] <and471> mac_v: I just felt that the 'rugby' part made me look really amateurish, wheras at aleast and has something to do with my name...
[11:56] <and471> *atleast
[11:56] <mac_v> and471: ;p
[11:57] <and471> mac_v: how is humanity coming along?
[11:57] <mac_v> and471: hmm , not sure how to answer that ;)
[11:58] <mac_v> and471: its frozen for now until, we get more bugs ;p
[11:58] <and471> mac_v: hehe, any large work still needed or is it settle down for karmic time?
[11:58] <and471> mac_v: ah
[11:58] <mac_v> and471: nooooo , no more work! only bug fixes from here on
[11:59] <mac_v> and471: already , the release team is pretty pissed we make a lot of revs ;p
[11:59] <and471> mac_v: hehe, well I suppose when it is artwork there is no much regression potential so I don't see why
[12:00] <mac_v> and471: they dont like it... ;)
[12:00] <mac_v> there are several factors
[15:56] <popey> bratsche: you know "that" bug with xsplash appearing over two screens.. well it's still not quite right
[15:56] <popey> bratsche: it now shows the splash on the left screen and the gdm logon on the right screen
[15:56] <popey> bratsche: so it's almost there :)
[15:58] <Amaranth> multidisplay is hard
[16:10] <bratsche> popey: It shows xsplash on the left screen or it shows the xsplash background image?
[16:10] <bratsche> Because we now tell gdm to use the same image for its background.
[16:10] <popey> bratsche: i get xsplash animated on the left screen
[16:11] <bratsche> Ugh, suckfest.
[16:12]  * bratsche hates xsplash so much
[16:12] <Amaranth> bratsche: You're not alone ;)
[16:12] <bratsche> I know.
[16:13] <Amaranth> Although I found the "use compiz" option in gdm so maybe it'll look better now
[16:13] <Amaranth> Although trying to keep it running without blinking through a compositing switch is impossible
[16:13] <bratsche> It feels like it's been the biggest waste of time ever.
[16:14] <Amaranth> xsplash just exposes all the problems we have with compositing and scheduling
[16:14] <Amaranth> and a few other things
[16:15] <Amaranth> welcome to my world ;)
[16:16] <popey> bratsche: let me know if there's any further testing or anything else I can help with
[16:16] <bratsche> popey: Okay, will do.
[16:16] <dtchen> user experience is hard. welcome to my world.
[16:17] <Amaranth> dtchen: my sound works right :)
[16:18] <Amaranth> I always seem to get laptops with broken sound then once it starts working get a new one with broken sound
[16:18] <dtchen> see above.
[16:19] <Amaranth> hehe
[16:33] <and471> mac_v: hi
[16:33] <and471> mac_v: sorry for cutting out earlier
[16:33] <and471> mac_v: my connection disappeared :-(
[16:33] <and471> mac_v: but it is back now :-)
[16:34] <mac_v> and471: yeah , noticed :)


[13:58] <Stevee> hello, i've questions to some stanzas of upstart 0.5.1 and abouve
[13:58] <Stevee> they aren't describet in the wiki
[13:58] <Stevee> what does the stanza "task" do ?
[13:59] <ion> See init(5)
[13:59] <Stevee> oh are the describet in the man pages
[13:59] <Stevee> ?


[14:43] <henry_cui> I just get standford.karel working,but it shows "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: import stanford/karel"
[14:45] <henry_cui> any one can tell me what's wrong


[00:15] <a1fa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-340-updates/+bug/1477593
[00:15] <a1fa> anyone else affected by this?
[00:15] <a1fa> any insight?
[03:34] <goddard> having an issue getting Netbeans running
[03:35] <goddard> tried using different version of openjdk and I get the same error
[05:20] <glitsj16> hi, can anyone confirm that /lib/udev/udev-finish is missing in package udev 225-1ubuntu4 ? Because of the missing script systemd reports the udev-finish.service as failed (sudo systemctl --failed) ..
[06:17] <glitsj16> .. follow-up, reported this as a bug --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/1498310
[07:33] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:08] <snadge> anyone here use vpnc ?
[09:10] <snadge> its not setting the mtu like its supposed to.. using the gui anyway.. the actual vpnc client is fine
[11:39] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:52] <fhf> there are no talkative ppl sitting here :C
[11:52] <fhf> but hey!
[11:57] <snadge> i've spent about an hour trying to rebuild the network-manager package.. but it fails a couple of the tests and aborts
[12:00] <BluesKaj> snadge, why rebuild, the existing package works fine.
[12:00] <snadge> im trying to fix a bug
[12:00] <BluesKaj> which bug?
[12:01] <snadge> so i patch the file.. run debuild -us -uc -b .. then it fails on a couple of the tests
[12:01] <snadge> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754781
[12:02] <snadge> i must be doing it wrong.. because obviously the package is built somehow
[12:03] <snadge> if that patch fixes the issue.. i was going to put something up on bugzilla
[12:04] <BluesKaj> so it's not with a specific vpn protocol, just NM's problem
[12:04] <BluesKaj> I think I understand ;-)
[12:05] <snadge> right.. the issue im having is with vpnc.. worked fine in vivid
[12:06] <snadge> then lrintel from #nm pointed out that bug.. looks relevant
[12:15] <snadge> ill just skip the tests.. at this point i dont care why they're failing
[12:28] <snadge> possibly something to do with fakeroot ?
[12:33] <snadge> ok that patch fixed the problem
[15:43] <a1fa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-340-updates/+bug/1477593 << GRRR!
[21:18] <goddard> having an issue getting Netbeans running
[21:18] <goddard> tried using different version of openjdk and I get the same error
[22:03] <a1fa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-340-updates/+bug/1477593 << GRRR!
[22:04] <a1fa> more people need to check the box
[22:14] <TJ-> a1fa: which kernel version are you using?
[22:15] <a1fa> 3.19 at the moment
[22:15] <a1fa> unable to go to 4.2 because of this bug
[22:18] <TJ-> a1fa: 4.2 has the fix
[22:18] <TJ-> mainline doesn't, but Ubuntu does.
[22:21] <a1fa> linux-image-4.2.0-10-generic
[22:21] <a1fa> Version: 4.2.0-10.12
[22:21] <a1fa> this one?
[22:21] <a1fa> i tried it a few days ago
[22:22] <TJ-> a1fa: I'm using it without any issues
[22:24] <a1fa> with nvidia driver?
[22:25] <a1fa> when did you do the switch?
[22:25] <TJ-> 8b029bd Mon Sep 21 13:32:12 2015 -0600 Tim Gardner UBUNTU: SAUCE: workqueue: Make flush_workqueue() available again to non GPL modules
[22:25] <TJ-> I've been using it for several weeks
[22:26] <a1fa> hm
[22:26] <a1fa> i tried it on friday, and it didnt work
[22:27] <TJ-> linux-image-4.2.0-10-lowlatency/wily,now 4.2.0-10.12 amd64 [installed,automatic]
[22:27] <TJ-> nvidia-340/now 340.76-0ubuntu3 amd64 [installed,local]
[22:27] <a1fa> why lowlatency?
[22:28] <TJ-> "lowlatency" :)
[22:28] <a1fa> is there a difference
[22:28] <a1fa> i need to google this
[22:29] <TJ-> low-latency provides guarantees, generic is best-efforts
[22:35] <a1fa> well i need to see whats the CONFIG difference
[22:38] <a1fa> i am going to stick with generic
[22:38] <a1fa> looks like lowlatency will have very little impact to what i do
[22:39] <TJ-> lowlatency is helpful on desktops
[23:28] <a1fa> TJ-: good deal. its working now
[23:28] <a1fa> ~$ uname -a
[23:28] <a1fa> Linux ubuntu 4.2.0-10-lowlatency #12-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Tue Sep 15 20:33:57 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:47] <a1fa> does anybody know if unity mouse speed can be adjusted by a number?