[01:41] <ian> Having issues with my USB thumb-drive not being detected.  Anyone got an idea why?
[01:41] <Chousuke> chaitu: then go read the manual pages. It's a bit difficult to use :P
[01:41] <ian> !usb
[01:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about usb - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> ian: how do you know its not being detected?
[01:41] <chaitu> frogzoo, ya i did it ,but failed in config it
[01:41] <Lwis_Kahel> chaitu : why do you want mame ?
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> ian: because its not showing up on the desktop?
[01:42] <ian> fyrestrtr : Good question.  First time using one.
[01:42] <chaitu> Chousuke, for what they are
[01:42] <fyrestrtr> ian: are you on ubuntu, or something else (kubuntu, etc.)
[01:42] <blup|patrick> frogzoo: jep... that tool doesnt work with sata
[01:42] <CarinArr> does anyone know if there's a way to set font smoothness for firefox? the fonts look very aliased..
[01:42] <ian> fyrestrtr : Where would I find it, if not the desktop (where my external HD shows up...)
[01:42] <Chousuke> chaitu: hm?
[01:42] <blup|patrick> i have installed it already
[01:42] <ic56> Da_Putzler: as for anacron, it allows jobs to be started after a reboot.  It is inessential.  It isn't running on my breezy system (I don't think I disabled it. it's installed but non-running by default)
[01:42] <ian> fyrestrtr : Dapper.
[01:42] <Saharsh> hello all
[01:42] <Saharsh> i want a help
[01:42] <Saharsh> anyone ?
[01:42] <chaitu> Chousuke, do u have any idea how to config it?
[01:42] <ic56> Da_Putzler: does that answer your qeustions?
[01:43] <Chousuke> chaitu: I can't tell you directly what to do, since it's been so long since I last used it.
[01:43] <ian> fyrestrtr : Yeah, just Ubuntu.
[01:43] <drega> Saharsh you want to help anyone
[01:43] <Chousuke> chaitu: but it's all explained in the man page.
[01:43] <drega> jump right in
[01:43] <Saharsh> i want know the difference between kubuntu , ubuntu and edubunt
[01:43] <ic56> Saharsh: ask your question
[01:43] <fyrestrtr> ian: open up a terminal, in it type tail -f /var/log/messages -- then unplug and replug the usb drive and see what shows up.
[01:43] <ic56> !edubuntu
[01:43] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[01:43] <Chousuke> chaitu: just read the man page carefully and you should be able to configure it.
[01:43] <chaitu> Chousuke, guide me
[01:43] <ic56> !kubuntu
[01:43] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:43] <ic56> !ubuntu
[01:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[01:43] <ian> fyrestrtr : Will do.
[01:43] <PingunZ> !kernel
[01:43] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:44] <PingunZ> !lol
[01:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about lol - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:44] <fyrestrtr> !msgthebot
[01:44] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[01:44] <Chousuke> chaitu: have you installed mame with apt?
[01:44] <ian> fyrestrtr : Ok, done.
[01:44] <chaitu> yup
[01:44] <Chousuke> chaitu: I think there might exist some GUI for mame in the repositories.
[01:44] <fyrestrtr> ian: what did you see in the log window?
[01:45] <Chousuke> chaitu: but what I do know is that you need to have your games in a special directory before you can run them with mame
[01:45] <Chousuke> chaitu: the mame manpage tells what that directory is.
[01:45] <fyrestrtr> is anyone else experiencing lag?
[01:45] <ian> fyrestrtr: Hmm, I forgot where to post things like that...Benn a while since I was here.
[01:46] <fyrestrtr> ian: check the /topic ;)
[01:46] <ic56> !pastebin
[01:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:46] <chaitu> Chousuke, it says in the dir /usr/games/xmame/roms but there is already a file xmame
[01:46] <Chousuke> chaitu: hm?
[01:46] <ian> fyrestrtr: Could you repeat that in slightly more n00b terms? ;)
[01:47] <Chousuke> chaitu: just put your rom .zips in that directory.
[01:47] <fyrestrtr> ian: which bit?
[01:47] <chaitu> Chousuke, there is no dir
[01:47] <ian> fyrestrtr: The part about /topic. I don't understand that part.
[01:47] <Chousuke> chaitu: then create it
[01:47] <Chousuke> sudo mkdir -p /usr/games/xmame/roms
[01:47] <chaitu> Chousuke, there already a file with the same name
[01:48] <khaled_> Hi there, how can i make FireStarter automatically start when i start Ubuntu ?
[01:48] <fyrestrtr> ian: oh, the location of the pastebin service is always listed in the channel topic. You can see what the topic is by typing /topic in your irc client, or just type !pastebin
[01:48] <Chousuke> chaitu: that doesn't matter.
[01:48] <fyrestrtr> khaled_: it does that by default.
[01:48] <ian> !pastebin
[01:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:48] <ian> fyrestrtr: Ok, one sec while I post.
[01:48] <Chousuke> unless it's a file for some reason, and not a directory. :/
[01:48] <Hexidigital_> does anyone know of any cisco emulation (IOS) software runnable under ubuntu? (for certification classes, etc)
[01:49] <Chousuke> in which case you need to find the other acceptable path.
[01:49] <khaled_> fyrestrtr: I don't think so because i don't see it's icon in the panel, is there any config i should make ???
[01:49] <Chousuke> I think ~/.xmame/roms should work too
[01:49] <fyrestrtr> khaled_: the gui doesn't start, but the firewall itself is running on startup.
[01:49] <Chousuke> but I'm not sure.
[01:49] <khaled_> fyrestrtr: Ok, Thanx
[01:49] <fyrestrtr> khaled_: there is an option in firestarter to have it auto-start, have a look in its preferences section.
[01:50] <ian> fyrestrtr: Ok, here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18856
[01:50] <fyrestrtr> khaled_: I mean, auto-start the gui part. Firestarter is just a front end to iptables, which starts up whenever you boot the system. So you don't need to worry that your firewall isn't working or anything.
[01:51] <khaled_> fyrestrtr: This is what i wanted to make sure of, thanx for your help
[01:51] <ian> Side-question: How adequate is firestarter when using default settings?
[01:52] <fyrestrtr> ian: okay, post the output of the command dmesg
[01:52] <root___> http://www.nomachine.com/ar/view.php?ar_id=AR07C00239
[01:52] <root___> can someone explain that one too me in laymens terms...?
[01:52] <fyrestrtr> ian: plug in the drive, then run dmesg, and paste its ouput.
[01:53] <fyrestrtr> root___: well you see, there are these tubes right.....
[01:53] <Hexidigital_> anyone know the correct syntax in terminal to not need to type sudo repeatedly? sudo -i {command}?
[01:53] <ian> fyrestrtr: Umm, when I type "dmesg" there is a VERY long output...
[01:53] <jrib> Hexidigital_: just 'sudo -i'
[01:53] <Hexidigital_> jrib::  next line put the command then?
[01:53] <jrib> Hexidigital_: yes, you get a root prompt afterwards
[01:54] <Hexidigital_> jrib::  ah, ty
[01:54] <jrib> Hexidigital_: you can exit, by typing 'exit' by the way :)
[01:54] <fyrestrtr> ian: type this dmesg > ~/output.txt -- then the output is in output.txt and you can open and paste that.
[01:54] <Hexidigital_> jrib::  :) thanks
[01:54] <root___> fyrestrtr: im more interested in how to set the "nx" uid the same as the ldap(whatever the hell that is) id so i can log in
[01:54] <bimberi> Hexidigital_: 'sudo -i' by itself puts you in a root login shell
[01:54] <bobbyw> I need help configuring my mouse wheel and back/forth buttons
[01:54] <bobbyw> can someone please help?
[01:55] <Hexidigital_> heh... i was doing sudo -i apt-get update (so i can install a bunch of programs)
[01:55] <ian> fyrestrtr: I just pasted the output to an amendment (direct from term)
[01:55] <ian> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18858
[01:55] <rr> root___ : i reckon u don't ldap for authentication ?
[01:56] <rr> root___ : did u install freenx or rhe deb's from nomachine.org
[01:56] <blup|patrick> crap.. i sther e not tool out yet, that lets check my satadrive about bad blocks?
[01:56] <pirast> the ubuntu installer has a bug when mounting ntfs partitions. how has the entry in /etc/fstab to look in order to mount a ntfs partition without problems
[01:56] <bobbyw> can't even really mount ntfs rw, can you?
[01:57] <pirast> bobbyw: i only want it to be ro.. but that doesnt work, too..
[01:57] <gatekeeper> bobbyw: there are ways to write to ntfs, there are howto on the ubuntu forums
[01:58] <frogzoo> !ntfs
[01:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:58] <fyrestrtr> ian: hrmm, strange. Can't see anything USB related there.
[01:58] <pirast> thanks
[01:58] <ryan_naruto> if you plug in a usb printer does ubuntu recognize it automatically????
[01:58] <ian> fyrestrtr: Any luck in understanding all that? ;)  About 70 percent is over my head...
[01:58] <fyrestrtr> ian: do other usb devices work?
[01:58] <ian> fyrestrtr: Yeah, USB external HD worked in the past.
[01:58] <gatekeeper> pirast: there are ways to write to ntfs, there are howto on the ubuntu forums
[01:59] <fyrestrtr> yeah its not a problem to understand it.
[01:59] <frogzoo> ok, now ubuntu does everything I can possibly think of, why will I ever need to upgrade from here?
[01:59] <rr> root___ : do a "dpkg -l | grep nx" to list the packages
[01:59] <pirast> gatekeeper: i know, thank you.. but I dont need it :-) reading is enough for me
[01:59] <fyrestrtr> ian: hrmm, I don't know what is the problem with your usb stick. Try this last thing. Unplug it, wait, replug it in, then type mount
[01:59] <ryan_naruto> my usb stick isnt recognized by ubuntu the second time i plugged it in... even if i rebooted
[01:59] <gatekeeper> pirast: just for info :-)
[02:00] <user-land> Hello, are Grub problems the same on Ubuntu and Kubuntu ?
[02:00] <pirast> user-land: yes
[02:01] <ian> fyrestrtr: No output re: USB...
[02:01] <ryan_naruto> what would i look for in the after typing in the mount... i have the same problem with my usb stick
[02:01] <user-land> thanks pirast.  I tried to add a few old harddisks to my computer now, but grub threw errors 15 and 17 consistently.
[02:01] <ian> fyrestrtr: Worked about 30 mins ago on my buddy's XP (yuck face) box...
[02:02] <Ace2007> Hi, I'm having trouble compiling firefox, i get an error about freetype, can anyone help?
[02:02] <pirast> user-land: are they slave? you have to make sure that your ubuntu partition is master
[02:02] <khaled_> do anyone one know how can i download the source code of any application?
[02:02] <user-land> the kubuntu partition is master, yes. the others were slave, yes.
[02:03] <andrea> hi^^
[02:03] <user-land> so i removed the other harddisks, but now my dual monitor setup does not work anymore, instead i am stuck with 1024x800 instead of 1200 pixel ...
[02:03] <bimberi> khaled_: sudo apt-get source <package>
[02:03] <frogzoo> khaled_: apt-get source pkgname
[02:03] <Hexidigital_> before i go to #apache, i get an error "could not verify the qualified domain name... using <IP_ADDRESS>"... i WANT it to use localhost, because it's a test server... anyone know which config file i need to edit?
[02:03] <rr> khaled : *i think* u have to add the -src repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:03] <khaled_> thanx guys
[02:03] <rr> klaled : then add the source packages
[02:04] <pirast> user-land: and if everything does not help you can boot from a livecd, look which partition is your ubuntu one and then open grub and type root (hdx,x) followed by setup (hdx)
[02:04] <ian> fyrestrtr: Ok, well, gotta work way too early today.  Have to try again tomorrow night.  <shrug>  Thanks for the help.  I appreciate it.
[02:04] <frogzoo> khaled_: yeh - enable the source repos
[02:04] <khaled_> frogzoo: can u elaborate?
[02:04] <pirast> user-land the first x is 0 for hda; 1 for hdb and so on. the second x is 0 for hdx1; 1 for hdx2 and so on
[02:04] <CyDrive> Is there any program for linux that can play dvds?
[02:05] <pirast> !restrictedformats
[02:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:05] <frogzoo> khaled_: synaptic -> settings -> repositories -> enable the source repos
[02:05] <user-land> pirast, this is too complicated for me, i give up using the other harddisks, thank you.
[02:06] <frogzoo> CyDrive: nothing beats gxine
[02:06] <user-land> i remember i had to edit a file manually for the dual head configuration, but i don't remember where.
[02:06] <pirast> user-land: no problem :-) it is not that complicated, it just sounds complicated ;-)
[02:06] <CyDrive> gxine wont play my movie
[02:06] <frogzoo> user-land: read the grub docs sometime
[02:07] <cr3> is there a way to rip a CD to mp3 files from the command line?
[02:07] <user-land> frogzoo, not everybody is that clever ...
[02:07] <ryan_naruto> ive installed the codecs to play avi files but but i cant seem to have a descent display
[02:07] <frogzoo> CyDrive: did you install libdvdcss2 ?
[02:07] <CyDrive> probably not
[02:07] <frogzoo> CyDrive: well there ya go
[02:07] <fyrestrtr> Hexidigital_: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[02:08] <Hexidigital_> fyrestrtr::  thx :) much appreciated
[02:08] <frogzoo> !restricted > CyDrive
[02:09] <josh__> how long will it take to setup an ftp server so i can move stuff from my work computer to my home computer? where can i find a tutorial on how to do it?
[02:09] <fyrestrtr> josh__: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[02:10] <josh__> yeah i have open ssh.... didn't work so i had to get lssh
[02:10] <fyrestrtr> josh__: then on your work machine, install winscp and login to the remote machine from there.
[02:10] <josh__> winscp goes over ssh?
[02:10] <fyrestrtr> winscp = windows secure copy
[02:10] <FrekoDing> yes
[02:10] <josh__> oh snap
[02:10] <chemaja> Ignite_: YO BIIIISH
[02:10] <Ignite_> rofl
[02:10] <Ignite_> <3
[02:10] <josh__> thats another for the memory stick lol
[02:11] <rr> josh__ filezilla works too
[02:11] <rr> sry fyre
[02:11] <IRCMonkeyx> hi, In terminal, when i click tab, it asks that do u wanna see all 1899 commands, for example when i wanna learn apt-get, i write man -k , it explains apt-gat, In this way it takes too much time, what command must i give to read all 1899 line by line ??
[02:12] <trif> hit tab again
[02:12] <trif> although I don't think that will do what you really want
[02:12] <fyrestrtr> rr: why are you apologizing to me?
[02:12] <fyrestrtr> IRCMonkeyx: if you want to learn apt-get, just type man apt-get
[02:13] <fyrestrtr> IRCMonkeyx: if you want to learn the commands, try something like tldp.org
[02:13] <trif> you can most likely find some easy to read tutorials on the web too
[02:13] <trif> sometimes man pages are a bit technical
[02:13] <user-land> my /etc/X11/xorg.conf is still ok, what could be the reason the second monitor does not get used anymore suddenly ?
[02:14] <fyrestrtr> user-land: its turned off?
[02:14] <er4z0r> hmm anyone trying handbrake now? ;)
[02:14] <IRCMonkeyx> fyrestrtr: it is so useful for me man -k , i only, if i have any chance to see all 1899 commands explanation line by line
[02:14] <IRCMonkeyx> fyrestrtr: it is so useful for me man -k , i only ask, if i have any chance to see all 1899 commands explanation line by line
[02:14] <user-land> it is on, fyrestrtr, during boot things get displayed there too, then flashes the nvidia logo for half a second, then the second monitor gets dark.
[02:14] <bimberi> josh__: have a look at unison too.  It's a file synchroniser that works over ssh.  runs on linux and windows (amongst others)
[02:15] <PKR_> how do you eject a cd?
[02:15] <user-land> this after i tried booting up with additional harddisks.
[02:15] <trif> irc: you would have to man each individual command
[02:15] <josh__> winscp wont connect either
[02:15] <trif> IRCMonkeyx, I've never seen a big summary list of each command
[02:15] <trif> IRCMonkeyx, there are so many commands you will never need to use ever
[02:16] <PKR_> doesnt the eject button on the cd player work in unbuntu?
[02:16] <trif> pkr_: not until the disc is umounted
[02:16] <fyrestrtr> PKR_: sure, that's a hardware thing.
[02:16] <bimberi> PKR_: it works on my laptop (even if mounted) but not on my desktop :|
[02:16] <IRCMonkeyx> trif: i just discovered it, i read untill d letter, than i am bored of writing man -k  <command> :)
[02:16] <PKR_> ok
[02:17] <PKR_> i had to eject it on the computer
[02:17] <fyrestrtr> user-land: are you using twinview or xnerama?
[02:17] <user-land> fyrestrtr, i don't remember using any of them ...
[02:17] <user-land> how can i check ?
[02:17] <fyrestrtr> josh__: are you sure ports aren't being blocked?
[02:17] <peej> any comments on the strengths and weaknesses of dapper compared with fedora core 5?
[02:18] <fyrestrtr> user-land: it'll be in your xorg.conf file
[02:18] <george_looney> hi fyrestrtr
[02:18] <fyrestrtr> peej: you'll get pretty biased responses here.
[02:18] <fyrestrtr> peej: one weakness ... rpm (imnsho)
[02:18] <george_looney> fyrestrtr: I figured the way to do it :)
[02:18] <bimberi> peej: package/dependency management
[02:18] <fyrestrtr> george_looney: cool :)
[02:19] <josh__> yeah... it makes an initial connection.... but failed during authentication... freenx said something about pam blah blah... someone else said port blocking but then after i told them it connects he said nevermind...
[02:19] <george_looney> fyrestrtr: "STARTUP=startfluxbox startx" does the trick
[02:19] <josh__> i dont know
[02:19] <Skaag> where can I get help about printing in ubuntu?
[02:19] <user-land> TwinView, fyrestrtr.
[02:19] <josh__> something got really screwed up somewhere...
[02:19] <peej> fyrestrtr: way I see it, dapper is a longterm thing, well-supported. yeah, also the apt-get thing is a better mechanism. THe upgrade with apt tends to be more solid.
[02:19] <bimberi> Skaag: ask here, hopefully someone can help
[02:19] <josh__> i had alot of trouble trying to get it going on breezy too though...
[02:19] <josh__> whats up bimberi
[02:19] <peej> I guess I'm actually fishing for a reason why fc5 might be regarded as better than dapper - can't come up with one. Mebbe I should go to the fedora channel? ;-)
[02:19] <josh__> still in college?
[02:20] <fyrestrtr> user-land: okay, and you didn't upgrade nvidia drivers or anything of the sort? What changed between then and now?
[02:20] <bimberi> josh__: not since 1986 no :)
[02:20] <trif> peej: if you're accustomed to redhat style config tools and directory layouts..
[02:20] <fyrestrtr> peej: one is, its more commerically supported.
[02:20] <peej> dunno if fc has clear demarcations of free vs non-free (the reason I like debian/ubuntu)
[02:20] <cocos> is it possible to let gnome-terminal open in maximised window?
[02:20] <fyrestrtr> peej: you'll find more vendor support for fc than you would for ubuntu, but that's changing.
[02:21] <Skaag> ok I have a network printer, an OfficeJet 7400. I've set it up correctly, I think, with an ipp:// URL. I can ping the printer ok, and reach its web based information page. Cups shows the printer is ok and "ready", but jobs do not print, they say "printing" forever. Looking at the cups logs shows everything is "fine"... any ideas how to even start debugging this problem?
[02:21] <trif> fedora core is way too big
[02:21] <josh__> bimberi: whazn't it you that was.....
[02:21] <josh__> oh wait
[02:21] <josh__> no that was jenda
[02:21] <josh__> lol
[02:21] <josh__> nevermind
[02:21] <peej> fyrestrtr : commercial support is better for fc ?
[02:21] <josh__> im a tard
[02:21] <bimberi> josh__: hehe ;)
[02:21] <rr> peej : FC5 has fedora directory server, which is a plus imho
[02:21] <user-land> fyrestrtr, i tried changing sources according to the post by hawkwind, but encountered a lot of errors, so i restored the easykubuntu sources and made an update/dist-upgrade.
[02:21] <fyrestrtr> peej: I said *vendor* support
[02:21] <rr> peej : about the only one i can thinkof really
[02:21] <peej> rr: what's fedora directory server ? a ldap type thing?
[02:21] <fyrestrtr> user-land: think it might have borked your nvidia drivers
[02:21] <user-land> could that have changed things ? only 3 kde-components were updated as far as i know.
[02:22] <peej> fyrestrtr : point taken.
[02:22] <ajmitch> peej: yes, and it's horrendous to try & build
[02:22] <djwhyte> Hi, just recently (on the weekend) Update Manager pushed out a new kernel version for my Breezy box, and since then I seem to have had a hard lock up daily.  I am running 2.6.12-10-386, has anyone else noticed this?
[02:22] <frogzoo> cocos_: gnome-terminal --full-screen
[02:22] <rr> anyone know of fedora directory server .deb packages ?
[02:22] <user-land> ok, fyrestrtr, so i should reconfigure x ?
[02:22] <fyrestrtr> user-land: try re-installing the nvidia drivers.
[02:22] <rr> peej : yeah , pretty good un tooo
[02:22] <ajmitch> rr: no, it's very near impossible to build properly & package
[02:22] <josh__> rr... fedora uses .rpms.... not .debs
[02:22] <rr> peej : formally know as ehh , darn
[02:23] <fyrestrtr> rr: since its (now) completely open source, you could download it and compile it if you were so inclined.
[02:23] <alxarch> hi, we want to deploy ubuntu in my university's computer lab can someone help me outwith a couplof questions i have?
[02:23] <ajmitch> rr: well, impossible to do without sitting down for quite awhile & fixing a number of issues
[02:23] <josh__> ust use alien
[02:23] <george_looney> alxarch: shoot
[02:23] <frogzoo> rr: apt-cache search    is your friend
[02:23] <cocos_> frogzoo: works great but not really what i ment i mean maximized but between the 2 panels
[02:23] <frogzoo> josh__: only as a last resort
[02:23] <pygi> !patient
[02:23] <rr> fyrestrtr, cool i have a look around for it
[02:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about patient - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:23] <pygi> !patience
[02:23] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:24] <alxarch> my lab uses Active Directory and all the users (us the students) login through there
[02:24] <fyrestrtr> fyrestrtr: there is a excellent post on twinview in the forums (iirc)
[02:24] <rr> ajmitch : what issues ur havin ?
[02:24] <_stev_> how do I remove a program installed with apt-get?
[02:24] <george_looney> alxarch: is it Windows 2003 or Windows 2000?
[02:24] <alxarch> i found out a howto enableldap etc but i don't know how to make a pre-configured installation to deploy it on to allthe pc's
[02:24] <ajmitch> rr: the fact that it wants specific version of many libraries, and you have to compile half the known world to get that
[02:24] <fyrestrtr> _stev_: use synaptic to remove it, or apt-get remove whatever-package
[02:24] <alxarch> windows 2003
[02:25] <RandolphCarter> is there any way to configure WPA (for wireless networks) during the installation?  it seems to only support WEP
[02:25] <bimberi> _stev_: apt-get remove <package>     (add --purge to remove config files as well)
[02:25] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: you could try the oem tools, those might help.
[02:25] <RandolphCarter> alternate installation too, I think that might be my problem
[02:25] <rr> ajmitch : bummer, so ur almost forced to use FC/redhat to use FDS ?
[02:25] <ajmitch> rr: at the moment, yes
[02:26] <_stev_> bimberi: ah ok -and it will also remove my .files in my home folder?
[02:26] <alxarch> yes but how do you pack the cd afterwards in order to pass it to all the 30 computers? i haven't found any how to for the OEM
[02:26] <ajmitch> rr: if I have a lot more spare time I'll look at packaging FDS
[02:26] <rr> ajmitch : was it iplanet before ?
[02:26] <bimberi> _stev_: no
[02:26] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: ah, you need the livecd generator-thing.
[02:26] <ajmitch> rr: netscape directory server
[02:26] <_stev_> bimberi: how do I do that?
[02:26] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: let me see if I have it.
[02:26] <peej> what's the ubuntu equivalent of fedora directory server then? netscape directory server?
[02:26] <rr> ajmitch : ahh k
[02:26] <RandolphCarter> peej: something like NIS?
[02:26] <ajmitch> peej: we only have openldap
[02:26] <george_looney> rr: it was Netscape Directory Server
[02:27] <frogzoo> peej: ldap maybe ?
[02:27] <alxarch> does this saves all configurations?
[02:27] <bimberi> _stev_: manually (with rm).  or just leave them
[02:27] <peej> is openldap kinda hard and mystical to set up (I have very little clue on ldap)
[02:28] <_stev_> bimberi: ah ok thx
[02:28] <CarinArr> peej, yes
[02:28] <CarinArr> ;)
[02:28] <rr> peej : not really know, but u might have to do some reading about ldap in general
[02:28] <CarinArr> actually, i don't know if it is "relatively"
[02:28] <user-land> great support, fyrestrtr, thank you. it looks like i need to rerun easykubuntu.
[02:28] <CarinArr> i'm just clueless when it comes to stuff like that and i found it a bit.. er.. odd
[02:29] <ardchoille> ajmitch: I have 11 computers and what I did was installed the system on one, updated it, then I used partimage to make an image of that one system, burned that image to DVD.. then used partimage along with the image I burned to install Ubuntu on the other 10 boxes. it worked great and puts an identical system on all the computers.
[02:29] <peej> thanks for all the clues. I have a better idea of things now, and can do further research by reading the fine manuals ;-)
[02:29] <ardchoille> !partimage > ajmitch
[02:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about partimage  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:29] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: first, see -- http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCD - that should get you started, and then -- you can try something a bit different in http://freshmeat.net/projects/gendistcrisol/
[02:29] <ajmitch> ardchoille: not me, alxarch :)
[02:29] <rr> ajmitch : is there anything i can do to speed up the FDS conversion ?
[02:30] <ardchoille> ajmitch: oops, sorry
[02:30] <er4z0r> always the same: what do you folks use for copying your precious dvds?
[02:30] <ajmitch> rr: not that I know of
[02:30] <er4z0r> k3b? dvd::rip?
[02:30] <dyn-afk> ardchoille why not use a network installation server for those 11 machines?
[02:30] <ardchoille> dyn-afk: they aren't entworked
[02:31] <dyn-afk> :P
[02:31] <dyn-afk> null modem cable :D
[02:31] <fyrestrtr> lol
[02:31] <fyrestrtr> give it up dyn-afk
[02:32] <ardchoille> I didn't feel like running cable through a 4 story house, besides the install from an image took about 15 minutes per machine
[02:32] <alxarch> fyrestrtr: yes but i don't want a live cd, i want an installation cd
[02:33] <rr> ajmitch : http://directory.fedora.redhat.com/wiki/Howto:DebianUbuntu
[02:33] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: I'm sure there is something out there for it -- I just can't find where I bookmarked it :(
[02:33] <ajmitch> rr: yes, and it just says to use alien
[02:33] <ajmitch> rr: not at all useful for getting into the distro, sadly
[02:33] <rr> ajmitch : yeah alien the pkg's
[02:33] <alxarch> what i want is: configure aps/active directory/ gnome/etc on one machine and then somehow clone the installation on to th other machines
[02:34] <rr> ajmitch : tried that with novell eDir, omg what i mess i got into :-(
[02:34] <ardchoille> alxarch: If the machines aren't networked, partimage will do exactly that
[02:34] <josh__> exit
[02:34] <dyn-afk> ardchoille without a network an image is the best way to do it :P
[02:34] <alxarch> they are networked they all belong to the lab domain
[02:35] <ardchoille> alxarch: Then maybe dyn-afk can teach you how to clone them via network
[02:35] <alxarch> i'm ready to learn....
[02:35] <alxarch> :)
[02:36] <ardchoille> dyn-afk: you're up, lol
[02:36] <dyn-afk> so am I alxarch :P
[02:36] <alxarch> :)
[02:36] <devan> i read that u need to intsall gstreamer0.8-mad to play mp3's, but in synaptic it isnt there
[02:36] <ardchoille> hahahaha
[02:37] <dyn-afk> the idea is that I'm gonna use my freebsd server as a remote install server
[02:37] <dyn-afk> have to take a look at pxe and such
[02:37] <_stev_> what is the /var/cache/apt/archives? are that all my installed (installation) files? can I delete them?
[02:37] <devan> i read that u need to intsall gstreamer0.8-mad to play mp3's, but in synaptic it isnt there, can some1 please how me what i should do
[02:38] <alxarch> so how do I setup an install server at my university's lab?
[02:38] <ardchoille> devan: I installed xmms and it played mp3's without any need to install anything else
[02:38] <er4z0r> !extra repositories
[02:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about extra repositories - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:39] <devan> oh ok, can i get xmms in synaptic?
[02:39] <dyn-afk> I think you need something like RARP, TFTP and maybe NFS (if you want to do a full install from that server and not via internet)
[02:39] <ardchoille> !info xmms
[02:39] <ubotu> xmms: Versatile X audio player. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB
[02:39] <ardchoille> devan: yes
[02:39] <dyn-afk> with my sun sparcstation 4 (without cdrom and floppy) I once managed to do somewhat of a network install
[02:39] <axyjo> !info supybot
[02:39] <ubotu> supybot: robust and user friendly Python IRC bot. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.83.1-1 (dapper), package size 446 kB, installed size 2896 kB
[02:40] <dyn-afk> I used rarp and tftp so the ss4 could boot the debian/openbsd netinstaller
[02:40] <alxarch> hmmm... that isn't much helpful now is it?:)
[02:40] <dyn-afk> with the netinstaller I did an install via internet, not via the network
[02:40] <ardchoille> alxarch: No, it isn't
[02:40] <dyn-afk> openbsd has a manual about how to do that
[02:40] <m_0_r_0_n> Although the adobe reader 7.0 is listet in the plugin list, no pdf document will be opend. I alway get a blank website. Any idea what went wrong?
[02:41] <dyn-afk> openbsd netinstall << look for that and you'll get lot's of results
[02:41] <dyn-afk> those results might aid you in creating a network install server
[02:41] <dyn-afk> also, be sure to take a look at PXE
[02:41] <ardchoille> dyn-afk: But, this is *ubuntu8 support
[02:41] <alxarch> ok i was hoping for sth abit easier....
[02:41] <dyn-afk> machines nowadays use PXE to boot off a network
[02:42] <rambo3> great for non floppy non cd/dvd  computer install
[02:42] <dyn-afk> there are small differences in openbsd, debian, etc. when creating a network install server, there not that big so...those tutorials might be helpful
[02:42] <ardchoille> Funny how so much text can be typed by someone who is "afk"
[02:42] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: fwiw, SLED has this option built-in
[02:42] <gatekeeper> alxarch: these machines you are trying to clone are they all identical hardware?
[02:42] <dyn-afk> afk = a brand, not just short for away from keyboard :P
[02:42] <alxarch> SLED?
[02:42] <fyrestrtr> a brand of what?
[02:43] <dyn-afk> suse linux enterprise desktop = sled
[02:43] <vipen> Hi, I have a problem with mounting my HDD... I've crashed the xorg.conf file so I've booted Ubuntu from the livecd so I could restore the backup but I can't access my HDD :(
[02:43] <fyrestrtr> SuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop
[02:43] <dyn-afk> fedora cora also has this ability
[02:43] <dyn-afk> SUSE actually...all caps now
[02:43] <dbzdeath> hey i have a problem with wine sometimes it screws up and i kill the application that is running and then no more apps can be run by wine until i reboot could someone please help me?
[02:43] <fyrestrtr> there is an option right there in the installer to 'clone this system' to do unattended installs.
[02:43] <alxarch> well not al of them but the majority of them
[02:43] <rambo3> too much ot now
[02:43] <dyn-afk> fedora has a special name for it
[02:43] <ardchoille> dyn-afk: Can we keep on topic please?
[02:43] <Botkiller> hi guys, I'm new to ubuntu and have it on my server since today. But ./ doesn't seem to work :S
[02:43] <threat> hey
[02:43] <neutrinomass> vipen: You could fix it without the livecd with 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' 2. What's the problem with mounting the hdd ?
[02:44] <rr> Fyre : u mean the supudupa "sutoyast" option ?
[02:44] <alxarch> so u suggest to install suse instead of ubuntu?
[02:44] <fyrestrtr> dbzdeath: best you ask in #winehq
[02:44] <rr> "autoyast" even
[02:44] <dyn-afk> mind you ardchoille that this is basic stuff for every distribution
[02:44] <threat> is there c/c++ devel package I can install that installs compilers, and manpages for std c functions?
[02:44] <fyrestrtr> rr: don't know what its called, but I just remembered it was there.
[02:44] <dyn-afk> it doesn't matter which one you have ;)
[02:44] <neutrinomass> threat: 'aptitude install build-essential' ?
[02:44] <vipen> Okay..... It says
[02:44] <vipen> error: device /dev/hda1 is not removable
[02:44] <vipen> error: could not execute pmount
[02:44] <fyrestrtr> threat: sudo apt-get build-essential
[02:45] <threat> neutrinomass, oh, I have that installed already :\
[02:45] <profoX`> how do i remove the auto focus on message, in gaim?
[02:45] <lars> dbzdeath: ps aux |grep wine says?
[02:45] <dyn-afk> ah, fedora calls it stateless linux..if you look for that you'll also find plenty of resources for creating a network installation server
[02:45] <devan> ardcholie,hey installing xmms didnt work, i still cant play mp3's
[02:45] <dyn-afk> profoX` take a look at your gaim prefs :)
[02:45] <alxarch> so to resumeit all: i install ubuntu on one machine and then i use the suse installation disk to clone that machine all over the place? that sounds awkward....
[02:45] <neutrinomass> vipen: Hm... not sure what's wrong. ..you can still boot from the hard disk can't you ?
[02:46] <profoX`> dyn-afk: i did.. didn't find it really ._. i'll check again, is it in there?
[02:46] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell devan about mp3
[02:46] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: I meant to say, maybe ubuntu isn't the right distro for it.
[02:46] <threat> neutrinomass, hmmm, I just looked at the package-list for build-essential,  it doesn't install any dev's or manpages for C functions,  any other ideas?
[02:46] <dyn-afk> yup, it's there profoX`
[02:46] <alxarch> aH! ok...
[02:46] <MusicEatingPanda> I just got notice that Firefox is to be updated by my notifyer....it wants to install 1.0.8 when i have 1.5 installed what do i do?
[02:46] <vipen> neutrinomass: No... It comes with some sort of errorpage...
[02:46] <threat> lars, grep -i wine probably
[02:47] <Botkiller> excuse me for asking, but maybe someone can help me with the following : I'm trying to install a cs server on my dedicated server with ubuntu 64 on it. But with multiple apps ./ doesn't work, i get -bash: ./steam : no such file or directory. But the steam exec is in that dir
[02:47] <dyn-afk> fyrestrtr ubuntu can do the same...all distro's can
[02:47] <devan> neutrinomass, it says i should isntall gstremer0.8-mad for mp3's to work but it isnt in synaptic
[02:47] <alxarch> yes but HOW?
[02:47] <Hexidigital> !universe > devan
[02:48] <dyn-afk> if you want to create an image do what ardchoille did
[02:48] <neutrinomass> vipen: What error? If all you messed up was xorg.conf, it should still be bootable. If it isn't, deeper issues are involved ...
[02:48] <Botkiller> can anyone help? can't find the solution via google :S
[02:48] <fyrestrtr> dyn-afk: but how easy is it? That's what it comes down to, doesn't it?
[02:48] <dyn-afk> I think that if you want to use the image way via a network you need to look into something as NFS to share the image
[02:48] <threat> manpages-posix-dev ??
[02:48] <threat> would that be it?
[02:49] <neutrinomass> threat: Yeah, probably.
[02:49] <ardchoille> Botkiller: What is the exact filename of the steam exec?
[02:49] <fyrestrtr> dyn-afk: I'm not aware of any unattended install options that come with ubuntu
[02:49] <gatekeeper> alxarch: if you know which files are required to configure what you need, you could use tar
[02:49] <dyn-afk> www.instalinux.org would be a great site for you fyrestrtr
[02:49] <Botkiller> ardchoille : just steam
[02:49] <vipen> neutrinomass: Something with X if I rembember right... And the it boots in something like CMD (windows)
[02:49] <neutrinomass> thread: I can't tell for sure, I'm on a crippled system right now :( But I don't remember explicitly installing that, and I still had the man pages (I guess they come as part of the libc documentation.... )
[02:49] <ardchoille> Botkiller: is it steam or Steam?
[02:49] <fyrestrtr> dyn-afk: I'm not the one trying to deploy it, but thanks for caring :)
[02:49] <Botkiller> just steam, all lower case
[02:50] <threat> neutrinomass, :\
[02:50] <dyn-afk> online unattended install creator for nearly all distro's :P
[02:50] <alxarch> no there are hundreds of files all over the system, can't do that
[02:50] <ardchoille> Botkiller: Then you may not be inside the correct directory
[02:50] <threat> neutrinomass, my name is threat :)
[02:50] <threat> neutrinomass, although alot of people make that mistake, I may as well just add thread to my highlight list :)
[02:50] <Botkiller> ardchoille : yes I am, I downloaded it to /home/mike/steam and when i ls it shows in there
[02:50] <fyrestrtr> Botkiller: make sure its executable
[02:50] <neutrinomass> vipen: Oh, but it still boots then. Try logging in from the terminal, and do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'. That will probably fix it....
[02:51] <profoX`> thank dyn-afk :)
[02:51] <Botkiller> it has always been an exec :s how can I make sure?
[02:51] <profoX`> for the gaim.. help
[02:51] <dyn-afk> http://www.instalinux.com/ << the correct link, it's not .org :P
[02:51] <ardchoille> Botkiller: Can you do: ls -lha /home/mike/steam and post the output to pastebin?
[02:51] <vipen> neutrinomass: Okay... Hope it works, and thanks for the help
[02:51] <Botkiller> sure, moment plz
[02:51] <fyrestrtr> Botkiller: ls -l -- check the permissions
[02:51] <neutrinomass> threat: Yeah sorry. Just a moment - I'll look up the documentation thing ...
[02:52] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: That's what I was gonna do :P
[02:52] <dyn-afk> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Network-Install-HOWTO.html << this also might give you some idea on how to setup a network install server
[02:52] <neutrinomass> threat: glibc-doc ? I'm not sure about dapper though, this is on breezy....
[02:52] <alxarch> so i'll keep on searching... but if suse can do it easilly i'll have to use that instead
[02:52] <fyrestrtr> threat: most docs are already there, what do you need, a tutorial?
[02:53] <alxarch> but i thought that the OEM install mode was made to serve dployment purposes
[02:53] <Botkiller> ardchoille : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18861
[02:53] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: I think it takes care of customization, but not deployment.
[02:53] <neutrinomass> fyrestrtr : He wants the manpages for libc functions from what I understood.... which should be there in the first place as you pointed out :-/ Unless it's an expert install probably ...
[02:53] <NthDegree> OEM is for Retailers to preinstall ubuntu so the user can set it up his/her way on first boot
[02:53] <alxarch> and i can't find any examples or howto's in th help pages of ubuntu
[02:53] <dyn-afk> oem install mode does the same thing alxarch: you need to create an image
[02:54] <fyrestrtr> neutrinomass: I think even with the expert install, they should still be there.
[02:54] <quiet> alxarch, OEM install would be if you were building a computer for someone... you can set it up, customize it, install all updates, any extra software, then run the OEM utility and will erase all user history... upon the next boot it will set up a new user name and such...
[02:54] <dyn-afk> if you know Windows you can compare it to installing a system dan use sysprep and afterwards you create an image
[02:54] <alxarch> yes but retailers aren't going to install the extra packages on every machine indepentantly
[02:54] <quiet> alxarch, it's similar to SYSPREP for windows.
[02:54] <dyn-afk> that's what the oem install does
[02:54] <threat> neutrinomass, thanx, I am getting libc-doc now
[02:54] <threat> fyrestrtr, I need to man strftime()  and other such C functions
[02:54] <neutrinomass> fyrestrtr : An expert server install didn't even install 'man' on this box, but this is with 5.04 :-/
[02:55] <threat> fyrestrtr, I program in C/C++, well I try to :P
[02:55] <ardchoille> Botkiller: Is that the only output you got from  ls -lha /home/mike/steam ?
[02:55] <alxarch> howyes but how do i make this image on ubuntu?
[02:55] <fyrestrtr> neutrinomass: geez :(
[02:55] <dyn-afk> the oem function is in between the use of an unattended install and on image
[02:55] <quiet> OEM + Symantec Ghost alxarch
[02:55] <_stev_> how do I get my total used size of all partions together?
[02:55] <dyn-afk> it personalises the image
[02:55] <fyrestrtr> threat: try sudo apt-get install gcc-doc
[02:55] <Botkiller> yes, only one file in the dir, as it should be before installation :)
[02:55] <user-land> hello fyrestrtr, my system is borked ... i am on the livecd would like to mount the former root partition to move the /home dir to a new partition, but it does not mount in nautilus, saying not removable, could not execute pmount.
[02:55] <alxarch> so i' ll use ghost?
[02:55] <quiet> alxarch, if you have it, you can use ghost, yes.
[02:56] <dyn-afk> alxarch you can use any image creator from symantec/norton, acronis, etc.
[02:56] <Whatsisname> _stev_, you could probably write a simple perl script to calculate that
[02:56] <dyn-afk> though trueimage is a bit more picky then ghost
[02:56] <fyrestrtr> user-land: what does the disk manager tell you?
[02:56] <alxarch> but how am i going to be sure it does dual booting etc properly for every machine?
[02:56] <jipi> hey
[02:56] <Smjor> _stev_, cant you use "df -m"?
[02:56] <fyrestrtr> _stev_: disk manager should tell you that
[02:56] <quiet> alxarch, testing.
[02:56] <ardchoille> Botkiller: Yes, but ls -lha should have shown you the filename at the end, not the directory path ;)
[02:56] <jipi> how wouldi i got about running ssh on this computer, so i can acsess it from a windows ssh shell program?
[02:56] <alxarch> u seethe pc's also have windows on them....
[02:56] <dyn-afk> alxarch you restore the image on a machine
[02:56] <dyn-afk> then reboot it
[02:57] <quiet> ^^
[02:57] <fyrestrtr> jipi: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[02:57] <jipi> thanks man
[02:57] <dyn-afk> the oem installer will start again and it'll ask you the same setup questions
[02:57] <dyn-afk> it's just a quicker way of setting up a machine
[02:57] <quiet> dyn-afk, if you're doing company deployment... you don't need to use OEM, really.
[02:57] <Botkiller> ardchoille : mad a mistake, it's still in /home/mike (just checked if that was the prob, but still same error)
[02:57] <Botkiller> made*
[02:57] <dyn-afk> nah, you're prolly better off using an unattended network installation using a network install server quiet
[02:58] <minimec> jipi: Read the man-page of the openssh-server ;) There you have the explanations to create the keys ;)
[02:58] <dyn-afk> but if the machines are identical then oem install might do
[02:58] <quiet> exactly.
[02:58] <ardchoille> Botkiller: so ./steam from the home dir should work
[02:58] <Botkiller> no it doesn't
[02:58] <Whatsisname> you know, anyone happen to have a link handy to any info about how to customize the default configuations of the LiveCD's?
[02:58] <Whatsisname> like to make a custom LiveCD for a specific purpose
[02:58] <dyn-afk> looking at management of images and such, unattended installations are much better
[02:58] <ardchoille> Botkiller: Then it's not set to be executable, that's my guess
[02:58] <Jenkins> Does anybody know if Ubuntu 6.06 LTS supports drivers for Wireless Cards by Broadcom?
[02:59] <dyn-afk> unattended install is far easier to manage
[02:59] <Botkiller> how can I set it to executable than? :S
[02:59] <quiet> Jenkins, it comes with ndiswrapper, and it works well.
[02:59] <fyrestrtr> Whatsisname: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCD
[02:59] <Whatsisname> Botkiller, run chmod +x filename
[02:59] <ardchoille> Botkiller: chmod u+x filename
[02:59] <Jenkins> how would one use ndiswrapper to install the drivers?
[02:59] <quiet> Jenkins, it uses the windows .inf and .sys
[02:59] <ardchoille> Gotta go, bbiab
[02:59] <fyrestrtr> !broadcom > Jenkins
[02:59] <quiet> Jenkins, i have a broadcom 4318
[02:59] <dyn-afk> install  ndiswrapper and use the graphical tool
[02:59] <Smjor> Whatsisname :
 neutrinomass, althou
[02:59] <dyn-afk> make sure you have the drivers unpacked
[02:59] <Smjor> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo
[02:59] <Whatsisname> fyrestrtr, that page really doesn't have much info lol
[02:59] <Whatsisname> oh well
[03:00] <quiet> Jenkins, apt-get install ndiswrapper ndiswrapper-utils && ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5a.inf && modprobe ndiswrapper.
[03:00] <quiet> boom, works.
[03:00] <dyn-afk> then browse for the .inf file with the graphical ndiswrapper tool
[03:00] <Botkiller> ardchoille : you're never gonna believe this - still doesn't work
[03:00] <quiet> there is a graphical ndiswrapper tool?
[03:00] <quiet> ew.
[03:00] <quiet> why?
[03:00] <dyn-afk> yup
[03:00] <Jenkins> im a newbie to Linux lol
[03:00] <dyn-afk> to make things easier :P
[03:00] <Smjor> Whatsisname --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo
[03:00] <quiet> makes sense, i 'spose.
[03:00] <dyn-afk> System > Administration > Windows Wireless Drivers
[03:00] <Whatsisname> hmm
[03:01] <Whatsisname> that only applies to 5.10 it says
[03:01] <dyn-afk> once you installed ndiswrapper in synaptics, you'll get that tool
[03:01] <minimec> Jenkins: there is a package ndiswrapper-tools (probalby you have to activate uni- and multiverse)
[03:01] <Whatsisname> isn't the 6.06 live and install cd one and the same now
[03:01] <dyn-afk> activating universe and multiverse is a good idea anyway
[03:01] <Whatsisname> i would expect changing livecd settings would be similar to the unattended installation sorta setup
[03:01] <Smjor> *err* my mistake
[03:01] <quiet> no, it's ndiswrapper-utils  not -tools
[03:02] <Terminus> meh, i replicated a debian install with cp -a. works fine. :)
[03:02] <minimec> dyn-afk: I can agree with you ...
[03:02] <Whatsisname> Terminus, needs more cp -ax
[03:02] <_stev_> Whatsisname: ah ok , df -h doesn't give me the total used off all partitions, I just thought that there was an option that slipped my mind
[03:02] <Botkiller> is there also another command to run executables with?
[03:02] <Whatsisname> _stev_, I don't think there is
[03:02] <Jenkins> Ok, well first let me install Ubuntu 6.06 LTS on my laptop then i'll try to figure out the wireless issue
[03:02] <Whatsisname> you'll have to write a script i think
[03:02] <Smjor> Whatsisname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e10
[03:02] <Botkiller> :/
[03:02] <quiet> actually.. alxarch... if all you're wanting to do is duplicate the hard drive...  dd would work..  if the systems are the same.
[03:02] <threat> Smjor, huh?
[03:02] <Whatsisname> Botkiller, different kinds of executables are run with different s
[03:02] <Whatsisname> stuff
[03:02] <alxarch> dd?
[03:02] <quiet> i did that for 20 identical HP workstations.
[03:03] <Terminus> Whatsisname: i did it a different way, i recreated all the mount points first. that way, i didn't need -x. :)
[03:03] <dyn-afk> dd = diskdump
[03:03] <dyn-afk> it's like ghost's 1-on-1 diskcopy
[03:03] <Botkiller> well, on red hat and fedore ./steam worked perfectly, but on ubuntu it does not, while I do the same order :S
[03:03] <quiet> dd if=/dev/hda of=/some/network/share/disk.img
[03:03] <quiet> then boot a live cd on the system tobe imaged..   dd if=/some/network/share/disk.img of=/dev/hda
[03:03] <alxarch> and how do i put it on the new machine aftrwards?
[03:04] <quiet> it will do an EXACT copy
[03:04] <Whatsisname> Smjor, that looks like the info I was looking for, thank you
[03:04] <alxarch> easy
[03:04] <quiet> it is.
[03:04] <quiet> but
[03:04] <quiet> the machine needs to be exactly the same
[03:04] <minimec> Jenkins: /part
[03:04] <quiet> if nothing else, exactly the same hard drive size MIGHT work.
[03:04] <quiet> never tried that though.
[03:05] <alxarch> the machines will be the same
[03:05] <Smjor> Whatsisname, you're welcome!
[03:05] <alxarch> i am not sure about the partition sizes though
[03:05] <n2ob> what's the command to rewrite grub to mbr
[03:05] <Whatsisname> when doing a dd transfer
[03:05] <Whatsisname> the partition sizes have to be exactly the same
[03:05] <fyrestrtr> n2ob: grub-install
[03:05] <Whatsisname> otherwise Bad Things can and will happen
[03:05] <quiet> Whatsisname, they WILL be exactly the same
[03:05] <quiet> lol
[03:05] <n2ob> fyrestrtr, thankyou
[03:05] <quiet> if you use dd...
[03:06] <quiet> it will rewrite the partition table.
[03:06] <Whatsisname> not necessarily
[03:06] <quiet> so, if you are dual booting windows... you should run sysprep on windows before you dd with linux
[03:06] <alxarch> so since i am going to be the one who's going to formthow do i make the partitions EXACTLY sam size?
[03:06] <Whatsisname> if you do a dd on a partition
[03:06] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: man, just use ghost
[03:06] <Botkiller> can there be anything else the problem? with ./steam shit
[03:06] <quiet> i didn't say dd on the partition.
[03:06] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: you are over engineering the problem.
[03:06] <quiet> i said dd on hda
[03:07] <Jenkins> quiet did you get my message?
[03:07] <quiet> alxarch, dd hda1 will just do that partition... (need to make partitions exactly the same size)   dd on hda with make an image of the disk itself.
[03:07] <quiet> Jenkins, i don't believe so?
[03:07] <Jenkins> hmmm i dont know how to tell if it is working lol
[03:08] <perry_> when I try to start bittorrent, it asks me for the location of the metafile
[03:08] <Jenkins> ah, says PM's from unregistered users are not allowed
[03:08] <Jenkins> due to spam issues
[03:08] <elkbuntu> how can i re-enable formatting in thunderbird after enigmail has disabled it?
[03:08] <Botkiller> ardchoille?
[03:08] <perry_> where is this metafile?
[03:09] <alxarch> so: i install windows, then i install linux and then i do dd
[03:09] <quiet> first run sysprep on windows.
[03:09] <quiet> you need sysprep to regen the security IDs for windows..
[03:09] <alxarch> what for?
[03:09] <quiet> else it causes network problems.
[03:10] <perry_> when I try to start bittorrent, it asks me for the location of the metafile...where do I find it?
[03:10] <mjr> perry_, the .torrent file is the metafile
[03:10] <rambo3> prollu Desktop
[03:10] <Socrate_academy> does ubuntu server have a visual desktop enviroment?
[03:10] <alxarch> this sysrep thing confuses me
[03:10] <quiet> Socrate_academy, not by default
[03:10] <MatthewV> Socrate_academy, not on default install
[03:10] <Ramunas> how do i change my mysql password?
[03:10] <fyrestrtr> Socrate_academy: no, but you can install one.
[03:10] <elkbuntu> Socrate_academy, no, but yout can install one
[03:10] <Whatsisname> Socrate_academy, not by default
[03:10] <stefg> !torrent > perry_
[03:11] <quiet> Socrate_academy, but it can be turned into ubuntu, kubuntu, or xubuntu with a single command.
[03:11] <fyrestrtr> Ramunas: #mysql
[03:11] <Socrate_academy> tnks for the quick response :p
[03:11] <perry_> thanks steg
[03:11] <oskude> Socrate_academy: x window system is mostly not wanted on servers...
[03:11] <lens_> all of the sudden my Dapper install is running pretty sluggish... what can I do?
[03:11] <perry_> stefg rather :P
[03:11] <Smjor> alxarch, sysprep is used to "seal" windows-systems
[03:11] <Socrate_academy> quiet: how can i do that?
[03:11] <quiet> Socrate_academy, apt-get install [ubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu] -desktop
[03:11] <alxarch> seal thm from what viruses? hahahhahaha
[03:11] <Whatsisname> lens_, too little info provided :(
[03:11] <perry_> brb
[03:11] <Smjor> hehe
[03:11] <Socrate_academy> going to try that :p brb with an answe :D
[03:11] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: seal it for a new person to boot it up.
[03:12] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: or for deployment
[03:12] <oskude> lens: you could see in terminal with "ps aux" if there are processes taking up the whole cpu...
[03:12] <Smjor> alxarch, its basically an OEM-tool
[03:12] <Smjor> not something end-users come in contact with
[03:12] <fyrestrtr> I think you have to install a reskit just to get it, iirc.
[03:13] <lens_> Whatsisname well, when I press buttons, it's about a 5 second delay before they actually press in... I saw a Kubuntu program to clean junk files... would it be OK to run in Gnome?
[03:13] <fyrestrtr> lens_: how much ram do you have, and how much free disk space?
[03:13] <Whatsisname> it would probably be ok to run but it probably wouldn't do anything useful
[03:13] <Whatsisname> lens_: fire up a terminal, run the comnand
[03:13] <Whatsisname> top
[03:14] <alxarch> ok so once more the procedure: i install windows on hda1,i configure it, i sysrep it, then i install linux on hda2, i configure it, then i dd hda and sav it on a network drive and with the live cd i go around the pc's and dd the hda image on to the other(identical) ps's right?
[03:14] <Whatsisname> see if anything strange is eating too much cpu
[03:14] <oskude> lens_: files on the hd are not supposed to make a system slower (atleast not in ubuntu)
[03:14] <lens_> I only have 15 gigs free... that must be it, how do I find the big files on my system?
[03:15] <Socrate_academy> quiet: i get an error message saying: "Couldn't find package ubuntu-desktop" :s
[03:15] <oskude> lens_: lol, only 15g, my whole hd is 20gb and i got dualboot. as i said files on hd DONT make system slower...
[03:15] <Smjor> alxarch, yes. when you have installed windows, press "ctrl+shift+F3" to bypass OEM deal. Modify windows, sysprep will be running on the desktop (self-explainatory).
[03:15] <fyrestrtr> Socrate_academy: have you updated apt?
[03:15] <quiet> umm...i thoguht that was it.. try apt-cache search desktop
[03:15] <Socrate_academy> brb
[03:15] <Whatsisname> 15 gig free is plenty
[03:15] <fyrestrtr> !info ubuntu-desktop
[03:15] <ubotu> ubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.119 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 40 kB
[03:15] <Whatsisname> most of the time I'd be lucky to have 2-3 gig free out of 500
[03:15] <vipen> neutrinomass: It worked... I can boot from my HDD now... Thanks
[03:16] <Smjor> alxarch, I mean, to bypass EULA.
[03:16] <alxarch> a ok
[03:16] <dyn-afk> alxarch make sure you run sysprep and absolutely do not boot into windows anymore once you've run it !
[03:16] <dyn-afk> because if you do sysprep will rerun a small portion of the windows installation
[03:16] <lens_> oskude... oh well 15 out of 70... hrm... ok, so that's pry not it... but what would cause a delay I have a gig of memory I believe.
[03:16] <dyn-afk> it'll ask for things like computername, domain, etc.
[03:16] <Whatsisname> quiet, ubuntu-desktop is corret
[03:16] <Smjor> dyn-afk, he can boot into it multiple times, as long as he seals it when done, can't he?
[03:17] <quiet> wee
[03:17] <alxarch> so i bypass the eula on the first blue screens (sic) of the windows installation?
[03:17] <Smjor> alxarch, yes!
[03:17] <dyn-afk> no Smjor
[03:17] <Whatsisname> he must have somehow mistyped it or something
[03:17] <alxarch> ?
[03:17] <dyn-afk> you install sysprep, run it, shutdown windows and finally create the image
[03:17] <Socrate_academy> quiet i got a list of like 8 packages
[03:17] <oskude> lens_: run the command "top" in terminal and see if some process is using all of the cpu (or add system monitor to the gnome panel, to see cpu usage all the time)
[03:17] <Socrate_academy> :|
[03:17] <dyn-afk> if you reboot instead of shutdown you'll have to start from scratch
[03:17] <alxarch> y/n? :S
[03:17] <Smjor> alxarch, ok, what dyn-afk is saying is, that you can only bypass onece, and reseal once.
[03:17] <Whatsisname> lens run top like I said
[03:18] <quiet> Socrate_academy, apt-get update    you did that, correct?
[03:18] <lens_> oskude, sounds like a good start. :)
[03:18] <dyn-afk> meaning: install windows, update, etc. etc. etc.
[03:18] <damo22> do i need Xgl to be able to launch truely transparent windows?
[03:18] <oskude> lens_: i could think "updatedb" is running in background, or so...
[03:18] <dyn-afk> take a look at the sysprep documentation
[03:18] <s_spiff> anyone tried installing wine on dapper amd64?
[03:18] <dyn-afk> there you'll find the same info
[03:18] <Socrate_academy> quiet i dont have a i-net connection on tha pc
[03:18] <lens_> ok, I'll do the top thing and I'll use the applet
[03:18] <alxarch> but a lot of updates and program installations on windows require reboot....
[03:18] <Whatsisname> damo22, if something was truely transparent it would be invisibe
[03:18] <quiet> Socrate_academy, then how the HELL were you going to install ubuntu desktop??
[03:18] <dyn-afk> damo22 yes you need xgl+compiz for true transparancy
[03:18] <Whatsisname> ;)
[03:18] <Smjor> dyn-afk, are you a windoze sysadmin or something.-p
[03:19] <alxarch> lol
[03:19] <Socrate_academy> quiet i have a cd
[03:19] <dyn-afk> I'm a sysadmin, just graduated :P
[03:19] <dyn-afk> but I ran into problems
[03:19] <quiet> you have what cd?
[03:19] <Smjor> congrats!
[03:19] <oskude> lens_: the applet only shows the cpu usage, not the processes using it, but top does
[03:19] <fyrestrtr> alxarch: the idea is, you run sysprep after the system is setup the way you want.
[03:19] <quiet> ubuntu server?
[03:19] <dyn-afk> I foudn out the hardware why you need to run sysprep :P
[03:19] <quiet> that doesn't have ubuntu-desktop on it.
[03:19] <dyn-afk> *hardway
[03:19] <alxarch> ok
[03:19] <damo22> dyn-afk i followed the wiki on xgl and im using beerorkid sources, but my x server crashes
[03:19] <lens_> K thanks, I'm working on it.
[03:19] <damo22> im using fglrx
[03:20] <Smjor> alxarch, integrate the updates you need (KB8blabla, SP2 etc) on the install cd.
[03:20] <Socrate_academy> quiet i've burned this iso imaged ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso
[03:20] <fyrestrtr> dyn-afk: noob
[03:20] <alxarch> nlite?
[03:20] <dyn-afk> if you run a windows domain server you can only join a security/machine ID once
[03:20] <fyrestrtr> :P
[03:20] <quiet> Socrate_academy, you have no ubuntu-desktop then.
[03:20] <Smjor> alxarch, yes, i.e.
[03:20] <Socrate_academy> goddamit
[03:20] <quiet> ^
[03:20] <dyn-afk> so if you use ghost and you need to join 2 of those machines into a domain server and they all have the same machine/securityid things go mad :P
[03:20] <quiet> whatare you going to with linux without an 'inet connection anyways?
[03:20] <quiet> lol
[03:21] <vipen> I have some problems with enabling widescreen on my laptop... I've just tried to fix it myself, but it just crashed my com instead :( I have an Intel 82852/82855 graphics adapter.... Anybody able to help me?
[03:21] <Smjor> dyn-afk, tried that once:-)
[03:21] <alxarch> ok i'll check it out tomorrow.
[03:21] <dyn-afk> in the end, I had to reinstall every machine
[03:21] <quiet> ^ yep
[03:21] <quiet> been there.
[03:21] <dyn-afk> just 12 machines...
[03:21] <damo22> dyn-afk: can any wm run with xgl+compiz? eg wmii
[03:21] <quiet> dyn-afk, well actually
[03:21] <cga> !avidemux
[03:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about avidemux - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:21] <Whatsisname> quiet, theres many things you could do with linux with no internet
[03:21] <quiet> you can run sysprep after the image
[03:21] <dyn-afk> luckely it wasn't in a real life situation
[03:21] <quiet> it's just dumb.
[03:21] <cga> !avi
[03:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:21] <dyn-afk> those machine were for a crashcourse in Citrix
[03:21] <quiet> Whatsisname, i know..i was being facetious.
[03:22] <dyn-afk> damo22 I don't know about that
[03:22] <dyn-afk> I only use gnome and I haven't looked at other wm's
[03:22] <Smjor> damo22, isn't xgl/compiz wm-independent?
[03:22] <dyn-afk> quiet the sysprep documentation tells you not to
[03:22] <dyn-afk> things just screw up if you do
[03:22] <alxarch> i'll have to check with the lab's staff to see how do they replicate the windows installations
[03:23] <quiet> dyn-afk, yeah... it's not very good..  but i have made it work when necessary.
[03:23] <dyn-afk> the proper way of doing it: install sysprep, run it, shutdown the computer completely, create the image
[03:23] <quiet> yes.
[03:23] <damo22> smjor, probably... i need to get xgl working without crashing
[03:23] <alxarch> and if they are using diskimages i'll just hold them until i configure the linux on the mother-disk
[03:23] <dyn-afk> if you don't you'll get the same weird problems if you just simply don't use sysprep :P
[03:24] <Smjor> damo22, XGL/compiz talks directly to X, has its "own " wm-thingy in gnome at least. Disables metacity here..
[03:24] <dyn-afk> isn't that just compiz smjor?
[03:24] <damo22> smjor, i just want to use xgl i think, i dont even want compiz, just the ability to launch transparent urxvts
[03:24] <alxarch> so sysrep is th like m$oft saying: i won't let you install preconfigured windows with the same cd-key on mutiple machines?
[03:25] <Smjor> Hmm, you might be right. I don't understand why anyone wants it anyway---
[03:25] <quiet> damo22, you can do fake transparency with urxvt
[03:25] <Smjor> damo22, yep, thats easier.
[03:25] <n2ob> does anyone know good sites for start to learn about network (linux)?
[03:25] <Smjor> look at elive i.e.
[03:26] <Smjor> elive has fake transparency in urxvt
[03:26] <dyn-afk> no alxarch
[03:26] <XplOzIon> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/Release <-- any other repo i can use as i need to set up a server and i need apache and some other stuff
[03:26] <dyn-afk> it's like useraccounts...every account has a unique number
[03:26] <damo22> quiet: i compiled rxvt-unicode from cvs, but when i run urxvt -tr i get fully transparent, but id like % opaque
[03:26] <dyn-afk> so does every machineaccount
[03:26] <cavediver> Hi. What's the way to remove the annoying frame going across the screen when opening a program from the top-bar.
[03:26] <stefg> !easysource
[03:26] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:26] <alxarch> Smjor: yr nick sounds like "Es mejor" in spanish....(totally irrelevant)
[03:26] <cavediver> If you have it as a button.
[03:26] <quiet> damo22, use shade.
[03:27] <XplOzIon> thanks stefg
[03:27] <dyn-afk> you'll only run into trouble when you're using something like a domain or when you're going to share files over a network
[03:27] <cavediver> i know it can be removes, can't figure out how I did it though
[03:27] <alxarch> but i am
[03:27] <dyn-afk> because there are more computers with the same "unique" number
[03:27] <dyn-afk> if it's the same, it isn't unique anymore
[03:27] <Smjor> alxarch, hehe, doesn't mean nothing remotely like that in norwegian:-)
[03:27] <alxarch> so i have to sysrep in order for the domain to work properly
[03:27] <Jenkins> this Linux business is givin me a headache.. just getting it to install is a task lol
[03:27] <dyn-afk> in case of a domain it's done because of the security of the domain
[03:27] <vipen> I have some problems with enabling widescreen on my laptop... I've just tried to fix it myself, but it just crashed my com instead :( I have an Intel 82852/82855 graphics adapter.... Anybody able to help me?
[03:28] <alxarch> Smjor: Es mejor= It is better
[03:28] <dyn-afk> so it's not because of things like WGA
[03:28] <oskude> Jenkins: dualboot ?
[03:28] <Jenkins> yes Dualboot
[03:28] <fyrestrtr> vipen: tried 915resolution ?
[03:28] <oskude> Jenkins: well, for dualboot you need more knowledge...
[03:28] <Jenkins> WinXP and Ubuntu 6.06
[03:28] <Jenkins> I'm not familiar with Linux at ALL lol
[03:28] <vipen> fyrestrtr: What do you mean? I'm quite new Linux-user...
[03:28] <Jenkins> Windows XP on the other hand.. lol
[03:29] <oskude> Jenkins: are you familiar with partitions ?
[03:29] <Jenkins> yes i am familiar with partitions
[03:29] <damo22> quiet: do i use -tr with -sh 50% or something
[03:29] <Jenkins> i just didnt know this install needed 3 for itself
[03:29] <Smjor> Jenkins, use Partition Magic before you install
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> vipen: there is a package called 915resolution that helps with resolution issues on intel based video cards. Also, see !fixres
[03:29] <Jenkins> i use the Partitioning software on the CD
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> !fixres
[03:29] <quiet> damo22, something like that... the man page should tell you. i don't use transparency.
[03:29] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to intall frostwire
[03:29] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:29] <Jenkins> that came with Ubuntu
[03:29] <cavediver> Noone have the fix for that ?
[03:29] <vipen> fyrestrtr: Okay, I'll take a look at that ;)
[03:29] <alxarch> but i found it strange that i didn't find a howto or sth on that, i think it's a very common situation for universities, offices etc.
[03:29] <Smjor> Jenkins, it only needs two. / and /swap
[03:29] <s_spiff> anyone knows how to edit the fstab so that a master hdd [ 80gb ]  [ubuntu installed on 120 slave hdd ]  is mounted at boot? i cannot find anything on it in wiki
[03:29] <cavediver> It can't be just me that wants it disablked
[03:30] <SuperMiguel> the first / is ext3
[03:30] <oskude> Jenkins: you need minimum only 2 partitions... as Smjor said..
[03:30] <Jenkins> hmmm
[03:30] <fyrestrtr> SuperMiguel: download the deb, the sudo dpkg -i Froswire-blahlbal.deb -- then make sure you install Java (see !java) and you run it.
[03:30] <Jenkins> i thought it needed one for swap, /, and ext3
[03:30] <SuperMiguel> nope
[03:30] <SuperMiguel> just 2
[03:30] <Jenkins> k
[03:30] <SuperMiguel> the other one is the windows
[03:30] <Smjor> Jenkins ext3 is the file system on /
[03:30] <oskude> Jenkins: ext3 is a format, like fat32 and ntfs
[03:30] <Jenkins> welp i have 4 total partitions now i think lol
[03:30] <Jenkins> 3 for this linux install and 1 windows
[03:31] <SuperMiguel> thats fine
 i just didnt know this install needed 3 for itself << you need only 1 (the /), swap is recommended however, in that case you'll need 2
[03:31] <oskude> Jenkins: is that one partition extended partition ? do you know what that is ?
[03:31] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to install frostwire??
[03:31] <dyn-afk> problem with x86 is de limitation in primary partitions
[03:31] <Smjor> Jenkins, dyn-afk is right, /swap is not *really* necessary
[03:31] <dyn-afk> you can only have 4 of those
[03:31] <Jenkins> i have all them as primary
[03:31] <s_spiff> guys how do i extract .rar files?
[03:32] <quiet> SuperMiguel, what the eff is frostwire?
[03:32] <Jenkins> im about to just say forget it and get rid of all my partitions and put NTFS
[03:32] <dyn-afk> a logical drive (as DOS/Windows calls it) is also a primary partition
[03:32] <Jenkins> i think the installer froze anyways lol
[03:32] <Smjor> "/swap" is like the sidefile in windows
[03:32] <dyn-afk> everything in that logical drive isn't
[03:32] <argunda> anyone here know where trash folder is in xubuntu?
[03:32] <jake> hi everyone anyone know how to set file permissions on ububtu
[03:32] <linus001> just make an extended partition, then add a swap inside it.
[03:32] <dyn-afk> in a logical drive you can have as many partitions as you want :)
[03:33] <oskude> jake: chmod
[03:33] <Smjor> argunda, try ~/.Trash
[03:33] <argunda> k
[03:33] <_stev_> my login screen won't come up anymore after a installed another window manager, it is just that after giving my login and psswd, I stiil have to give my startx command to get Xup and running
[03:33] <dyn-afk> linus001 you mean swap as a file ?
[03:33] <Jenkins> ok let me redo this whole ubuntu install
[03:33] <quiet> dyn-afk, but logical drives still require at leastone primary
[03:33] <Jenkins> reboting now
[03:33] <Jenkins> rebooting*
[03:33] <dyn-afk> jup
[03:33] <jake> what like chmod 777 or 755?
[03:33] <CarinArr> _stev_, what window manager did you install?
[03:33] <bilss_> hi folks
[03:33] <oskude> Jenkins: i hope youre not trying to resize any ntfs partitions...
[03:33] <dyn-afk> a logical drive is a primary partition, so that leaves 3
[03:33] <_stev_> CarinArr: ion3
[03:34] <Jenkins> no, i have my NTFS all alone with half of my HDD with unallocated space
[03:34] <linus001> no
[03:34] <cga> anyone here knows which repo should i use (if any) to install avidemux?
[03:34] <oskude> Jenkins: ok, sounds good
[03:34] <CarinArr> jake, that changes permissions for files.. try man chmod
[03:34] <Smjor> Jenkins, good, cause resizing NTFS in *nix is fishy
[03:34] <quiet> cga, aptitude search avidemux ?
[03:34] <Jenkins> resizing any NTFS partition w/o corrupting windows is a task lol
[03:34] <dyn-afk> cga: I don't know which one but it is always a good idea to enable the universe and multiverse repos
[03:35] <CarinArr> _stev_, do you get a graphical login prompt (i.e. gdm) or do you get a console one?
[03:35] <dyn-afk> since a lot of programs people want are in those 2 repos
[03:35] <Jenkins> i don't know a damn thing about linux lol thats why im here for assistance
[03:35] <bilss_> got a pipe command question take a look here http://pastebin.ca/99591
[03:35] <cga> quiet, i'm using adpet and it is not there
[03:35] <linus001> what are you using to set up your partitions?
[03:35] <cga> dyn-afk, they are already there thanks
[03:35] <quiet> what is an adpet?
[03:35] <dyn-afk> Jenkins not if you resize it using partition magic :)
[03:35] <oskude> Jenkins: you came to the right (when not even the best) place :)
[03:35] <Smjor> _stev_, try" sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[03:35] <jake> problem is i have ubuntu setup using webmin as control panel but every time i run a cmd in line says permission denied
[03:35] <Jenkins> linux001, i am using the partitioning program that is on the Ubuntu 6.06 LTS CD/DVD
[03:35] <dyn-afk> cga do you use the add/remove programs tool?
[03:35] <_stev_> CarinArr: I've had a grafical one and now it is a console
[03:35] <dyn-afk> if so, make sure you enable commercial software and unsupported software
[03:36] <cga> dyn-afk, ohps.. no i'm on kubuntu actually :P
[03:36] <dyn-afk> Jenkins that would be gparted
[03:36] <dyn-afk> it's limited if you compare it to partition magic
[03:36] <CarinArr> _stev_, did you uninstall gdm?
[03:36] <bilss_> DBO: hope your asleep!
[03:36] <Jenkins> well its not like i am partitioning a fully partitioned NTFS
[03:36] <linus001> it still works well though
[03:36] <dyn-afk> cga you might do the same with the kubuntu package manager
[03:36] <CarinArr> or gnome
[03:36] <Jenkins> i left myself space last time i formatted ;)
[03:36] <Smjor> dyn-afk, not really, GParted has support for USB-flashdrives:-) PM doesn't!
[03:37] <dyn-afk> LOL
[03:37] <cga> dyn-afk, using that already but is not there
[03:37] <oskude> Jenkins: youre on the right track allright
[03:37] <gregg__> bilss_: "| yourcmd"
[03:37] <dyn-afk> let me be more specific: gparted is limited regarding Windows drives when compared to PM :P
[03:37] <Jenkins> brb, its loading Ubuntu now
[03:37] <dyn-afk> try apt-get install instead cga :P
[03:37] <Jenkins> i'll need help with the partitioning in a second
[03:37] <dyn-afk> on the commandline of course
[03:37] <gregg__> bilss_: including the quotes
[03:38] <oskude> Jenkins: how much freespace do you got ?
[03:38] <Jenkins> oskude, let ya know when i get GPart up lol
[03:38] <secleinteer> when i try to sudo apt-get, konsole returns "sudo: unable to lookup goku-desktop via gethostbyname()" - does any1 know how to fix this?
[03:38] <Smjor> dyn-afk, qtparted is actually better than gparted when it comes to NTFS-partitions, Doesn't seem to f*ck things up all the time
[03:38] <CarinArr> does anyone have any idea how to make fonts render less horribly in firefox?
[03:38] <quiet> did the ubuntu kernel get upgraded to 2.6.17?  will it?
[03:39] <secleinteer> Carin: there's a windows fonts collection at the forums
[03:39] <dyn-afk> ah good tip Smjor ;)
[03:39] <quiet> the 6.06 kernel, rather.
[03:39] <gregg__> quiet: in edgy eft, yes
[03:39] <quiet> bah.
[03:39] <quiet> okay
[03:39] <Smjor> CarinArr, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig", choose autohinter and "native" when asked
[03:39] <cga> dyn-afk, what is the apt- option to search things?
[03:39] <dyn-afk> quiet the kernel will be upgraded along everything else and it will be called ubuntu 6.10 edgy eft :P
[03:39] <gregg__> quiet: dapper won't see drastic chages like that
[03:39] <CarinArr> secleinteer, you can't get the standard fonts to render less uglily (if that's a word)
[03:40] <dyn-afk> cga: apt-cache search
[03:40] <quiet> okay. np.
[03:40] <secleinteer> so you get the windows fonts, and it looks good
[03:40] <cga> dyn-afk, thanks alot
[03:40] <Smjor> cga, apt-cache search whatever
[03:40] <CarinArr> kay, giving that a go Smjor
[03:40] <dyn-afk> np cga
[03:40] <cga> Smjor, thanks to you too
[03:40] <gregg__> quiet: why is 2.6.17 important for you?
[03:40] <CarinArr> smjor, autohinter AND native?
[03:40] <bilss_> gregg_ uum thanks can you go a bit further byway of example and say its the homedir of bliss
[03:40] <Smjor> CarinArr, yes.
[03:40] <dyn-afk> hmmz
[03:41] <CarinArr> smjor, doesn't look like i can choose both "native, autohinter, none"
[03:41] <dyn-afk> I wonder if resizing the ubuntu partition with PM will go well...any experiences with that?
[03:41] <dyn-afk> I'm guessing I might need to reinstall grub
[03:41] <Smjor> CarinArr. sorry, Autohinter first, next Q answer Always
[03:41] <CarinArr> smjor, okay, thanks!
[03:41] <quiet> gregg__, it's really not.  i was just wondering.
[03:41] <gregg__> bilss_: echo '"| /path/to/repserver.pl"' >~/.forward
[03:42] <jake> tried man chmod and chmod no luck keeps saying permission denied
[03:42] <[Ex0r] > jake- sudo chmod
[03:42] <Smjor> CarinArr, after this you must restart X, by issuing "xtrl+alt+backspace"
[03:42] <Smjor> CarinArr,  "ctrl+alt+backspace"
[03:42] <CarinArr> yeah, thanks
[03:43] <Jenkins> ok what partition should i make first? the Swap or the / ext3?
[03:43] <Smjor> I'd recommend ext3
[03:43] <oskude> Jenkins: doesnt matter
[03:43] <Smjor> "/" that is
[03:43] <bilss_> gregg_  what are the words other than echo that come before the pipe sign just ' " ?
[03:43] <CarinArr> smjor, fonts in firefox still look very choppy though
[03:43] <_stev_> CarinArr: hmm well more or less there, reinstall did the job, strange
[03:43] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to install frostwire
[03:43] <gregg__> bilss_: just a quote
[03:43] <Jenkins> do i make the ext3 as primary parition or extended?
[03:44] <SuperMiguel> i did installed but when i clicked on it nothing happens
[03:44] <_stev_> CarinArr: what is the default font in ff ?
[03:44] <gregg__> bilss_: I already constructed a command for you that will create the .forward
[03:44] <oskude> Jenkins: heres where you need that "standard" computer knowledge...
[03:44] <Smjor> CarinArr, try "System" > "Font", and enable "Best shapes!"
[03:44] <Jenkins> i have knowledge, im just tryin to install this the right way, i've never touched linux a day in my life
[03:44] <cristiano> hi all
[03:44] <Jenkins> i dont know how it works
[03:44] <Smjor> Jenkins, primary
[03:44] <rednose> hi all
[03:44] <Jenkins> thank you Smjor
[03:44] <profoX`> andrew__: you're the dma dude right
[03:45] <CarinArr> smjor, right.. hang on..
[03:45] <rednose> what up all
[03:45] <oskude> Jenkins: then you should know that you can make max 4 primary partitions...
[03:45] <XplOzIon> Help:  can anyone tell me a good web based FTP server Administrator? One that will let me Add/Edit/Remove user accounts and set any path for each account?
[03:45] <profoX`> andrew__: got your mail but don't have any ideas really..
[03:45] <jszaszvari> .
[03:45] <oskude> Jenkins: linux doesnt care if its primary or logical
[03:45] <Smjor> oskude, he'll end up with 3 in total
[03:45] <_stev_> so what is the best readable font for firefox then?
[03:45] <Jenkins> now for the Swap, should i make it primary or extended?
[03:45] <Smjor> jenkins, still primary
[03:45] <Jenkins> k
[03:45] <bilss_> gregg_ ok  in  .>/ .foward
[03:45] <profoX`> Jenkins: doesn't matter really
[03:45] <gregg__> bilss_: btw, man forward :)
[03:45] <oskude> Jenkins: as i said, linux doesnt care...
[03:45] <jszaszvari> Yeh this isnt windows
[03:46] <Smjor> jenkins, you'll still have room for a extended partition later
[03:46] <dyn-afk> swap...you can make it extended if you like
[03:46] <Badm4n> i have client <IP_ADDRESS>-10 .. and i using 2 GW ... i want to make exception <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> using gw1 and other using gw2 how is it ?
[03:46] <Jenkins> ok now it is asking me for mount point for /media/hda1 what partition should that be? the swap?
[03:46] <Smjor> Jenkins, /
[03:46] <bilss_> gregg_ ok its ~/ .foward
[03:46] <XplOzIon> Help:  can anyone tell me a good web based FTP server Administrator? One that will let me Add/Edit/Remove user accounts and set any path for each account?
[03:47] <oskude> Jenkins: that could be the windows partition, where do you have windows installed ?
[03:47] <dyn-afk> Jenkins you can't assign a mountpoint to swap :P
[03:47] <Jenkins> well it has the mount for /media/hda1  then another dropdown for the /
[03:47] <dyn-afk> swap is the easiest partition to setup
[03:47] <gregg__> Badm4n: simply configure these clients to use the other gateway
[03:47] <Smjor> Eh, I guess hda1 is windows
[03:47] <Jenkins> yes HDA1 is windows
[03:47] <dyn-afk> :P
[03:47] <Badm4n> gregg__ no time for that... this is only for a while not permanent
[03:47] <_stev_> how can I without my graphical login start my window manager automatically, without using the startx command in a tty
[03:47] <Smjor> then the second biggest partition will be /
[03:47] <Badm4n> i want set all from server
[03:47] <dyn-afk> Jenkins you have to assign / to the ext3 partition
[03:48] <Smjor> How large is the partition you use for swap?
[03:48] <Jenkins> swap is 1004 MB
[03:48] <oskude> Jenkins: HDA means HD in IDE1 as master, HDB means HD in IDE1 as slave, HDB means HD in IDE2 as master, and so on
[03:48] <fuoco> anybody uses xchat-gnome around ?
[03:48] <Jenkins> the / is 16 Gb
[03:48] <oskude> Jenkins: and hda1 is the first partition on it, hda2 the second and so on
[03:48] <SonicChao> !anybody > fuoco
[03:48] <Jenkins> yah i know the HDA but im just telling you what was default in the boxes
[03:48] <Smjor> Jenkins, let hda1 be on /media/hda1, assign / to hda2 and swap to hda3
[03:48] <Badm4n> anyone please
[03:49] <dyn-afk> oskude explain it a bit more simple: hda = the first ide disk in the machine, hdb the second, etc.
[03:49] <Smjor> and then reformat hda2 and hda3
[03:49] <fyrestrtr> Badm4n: edit /etc/networking/interfaces
[03:49] <Jenkins> i just took out the /media/hda1 all together cause that is my windows partition
[03:49] <bilss_> gregg; yes you did thanks   echo '"| /path/to/repserver.pl"' >~/.forward
[03:49] <bilss_> just to confirm this what i got?
[03:49] <fuoco> SonicChao: there's the notification icon, and it doesn't work for - doesn't show up when i enable the plugin
[03:49] <Jenkins> or should i put it back?
[03:49] <SonicChao> fuoco: Notification icon? I use regular XChat...
[03:49] <oskude> dyn-afk: well, how to know whats "first" if you dont know how to set it as master or slave...
[03:49] <Smjor> jenkins, doesn't matter, but if you take it away, you won't be able to read the contents of win-drive
[03:50] <dyn-afk> oskude that doesn't matter to linux :)
[03:50] <Jenkins> ok then i guess i'll put it back
[03:50] <SonicChao> fuoco: As to go with GNOME policies, the "developers" at GNOME delete features.
[03:50] <pp> Hi! installed 6.06 yesterday and immediately got 185M of updates to download. Is there are any plans for update release, just to save on all this download time?
[03:50] <JohnRobert> is there a parameter I can pass to the kernel to stop it from loading any modules?
[03:50] <Badm4n> fyrestrtr : and what should i put on it ?
[03:50] <dyn-afk> if the second hd is a slave on ide1 or if the second hd is a master on ide2 doesn't matter
[03:50] <oskude> dyn-afk: what ? howcome ?
[03:50] <Smjor> pp, same as me
[03:50] <SonicChao> pp: Just install all the updates
[03:50] <dyn-afk> it's just the second harddrive in the machine
[03:50] <SonicChao> pp: No, there isn't. :(
[03:50] <CarinArr> smjor, same after enabling best shapes
[03:50] <CarinArr> hang on let me screenshot
[03:51] <gregg__> JohnRobert: I don't think that's possible - ubuntu is highly modularized
[03:51] <oskude> dyn-afk: how to know whats where if you dont know ide slot and slave or master ?
[03:51] <pp> it's 40min per machine!!! even on high-speed. Insane
[03:51] <erUSUL> pp: is the way linux works you are allways secure with patches
[03:51] <dyn-afk> that's not how linux works
[03:51] <Jenkins> so the mount point /media/hda1 will be my windows NTFS partition to read the files of that in linux correct?
[03:51] <SonicChao> pp: Lol, i don't know, watch TV or something
[03:51] <JohnRobert> gregg__, my question was actually for a custom gentoo kernel :p
[03:51] <gregg__> pp: set up a local mirror with the updates
[03:51] <Smjor> jenkins, yes
[03:51] <Jenkins> k
[03:51] <SonicChao> pp: It should never break though
[03:51] <Jenkins> let me start this format then
[03:51] <oskude> dyn-afk: well, its the bios that defines where the HDs are...
[03:51] <dyn-afk> it looks at how many harddrives are connected not how and where they are connected
[03:51] <SonicChao> pp: I haven't patched Ubuntu in ages
[03:51] <CarinArr> smjor, http://www.pixelicious.net/temp/screenshot.jpg
[03:52] <fyrestrtr> pp: you don't need to download it again for each machine. If they are all on a network just download the updates on one machine, and copy the update files to the other and run apt-get update
[03:52] <dyn-afk> freebsd does look at how and where it's connected
[03:52] <Smjor> jenkins,  ntfs will be mouted read-only in linux
[03:52] <oskude> dyn-afk: what ever
[03:52] <CarinArr> see what i mean about choppy? my hoary work machine displays everything fine.. dapper laptop looks crappy
[03:52] <dyn-afk> but it also uses different devicenames
[03:52] <scott__> anyone know how i can recompile/rewrite my ipod itunes database? as some of my files have gone missing on my ipod but are visible to rythmbox (but not amarok or gtkpod
[03:52] <Jenkins> i will only need read-only on it
[03:52] <Jenkins> as long as i can copy some files from i to linux partitions
[03:52] <Jenkins> it*
[03:52] <Smjor> CarinArr, thats really weird
[03:53] <Smjor> Jenkins, yep, won't be a problem
[03:53] <Badm4n> fyrestrtr : ?
[03:53] <Jenkins> k thank you smjor
[03:53] <Jenkins> let me get this formatting
[03:53] <fyrestrtr> Badm4n: read the manual page, as I forgot the exact syntax
[03:54] <n2ob> mmm food
[03:54] <Badm4n> fyrestrtr :(
[03:54] <Jenkins> smjor do you have MSN Messenger?
[03:54] <Smjor> CarinArr, never seen this in ubuntu
[03:54] <Smjor> Jenkins, yes
[03:54] <Smjor> well, gaim
[03:54] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to install  frostwire
[03:54] <Smjor> :-)
[03:54] <Jenkins> would you mind if i added you to ask for further help with linux?
[03:55] <jrib> CarinArr: try use a different font, the microsoft ones show up like that for me too.  But if I set preferences to use my own fonts (bitstream vera sans I think) it looks good
[03:55] <fuoco> can i somehow use a newer kernel than dapper provides ?
[03:55] <Jenkins> i probly wont be using it that often lol but always nice to have someone who knows whats going on with it
[03:55] <Smjor> Jenkins, nope, private pm in a moment
[03:55] <jrib> CarinArr: s/use/using
[03:55] <Jenkins> ok
[03:55] <Badm4n> fyrestrtr : sry i must go for a while bathroom ... please tell me the command at my pv pls... this is urgent :(
[03:55] <Jenkins> i don't know if i will be able to get the PM since i am not registered with this IRC
[03:56] <linus001> Can anyone help me install a USB / HP 1020 LaserJet printer. I got it to print one test page. That was it, it won't do anything. If I reboot to Windows it works fine.
[03:56] <Viper550> Wanna see a preview of one of the themes that may come with Edgy?
[03:56] <erUSUL> !frostwire > SuperMiguel
[03:56] <CarinArr> jrib, the weird thing is that firefox uses the same fonts on both my machines and one looks perfect, the ohter looks crap
[03:56] <Smjor> Jenkins, join #ubuntutemp
[03:56] <Viper550> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Tropic
[03:56] <phenex> hey guys... i need some help with upgrading breezy to dapper... i did apt-get dist-upgrade and got dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[03:56] <phenex> running sudo dpkg --configure -a answerd the same... what do i do now?
[03:57] <jszaszvari> Hmm not good, I just spun around on my chair and knocked my file server over.....
[03:57] <jrib> CarinArr: are you sure the other machine has the microsoft fonts installed?  If you don't install them, then the machine defaults to what it can find
[03:58] <jordan_> Where is gcc installed?
[03:58] <n2ob> where can i learn the basics of linux networking? any websites?
[03:58] <MrFeetio> what is a good torrent program that allows me to set priority over multiple torrent
[03:58] <jordan_> Azureus
[03:58] <CarinArr> jrib, er.. don't know.. let me look
[03:58] <jrib> jordan_: type 'which gcc'
[03:58] <jordan_> ....
[03:58] <fyrestrtr> !update > phenex
[03:58] <MrFeetio> azureus doesnt work right on linux
[03:58] <jrib> jordan_: ?
[03:59] <jordan_> The one on ubutnu 5.10?
[03:59] <jordan_> Installed with apt
[03:59] <cristiano> i have a bunch of zip files in adir that i want to be extracted all at once by unzip. i've tried with "unzip path/*.zip" but it says "zip file not matched". what to do????
[03:59] <jrib> jordan_: yes, the command I gave you tells you where it is, or at least where the symlink is
[03:59] <phenex> umm... fyrestrtr,,, apt wouldn't work at all now... i don't think the manual will help...
[04:00] <CarinArr> jrib, i don't think i have ms fonts installed..
[04:00] <jrib> CarinArr: on the machine with the bad firefox fonts you mean?
[04:00] <CarinArr> jrib, yeah
[04:00] <CarinArr> i have artwiz fonts installed but i can't think i have any others that are "extra"
[04:01] <XplOzIon> how would i active vnc-server in a server from ssh?
[04:01] <Smjor> CarinArr, try "sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts"
[04:01] <CarinArr> smjor, i want them installed?
[04:02] <jordan_> Jrib : That didnt do anything
[04:02] <Smjor> Well, they're nice looking windows fonts. But to be honest, I don't know if it helps:-/
[04:02] <jrib> CarinArr: set preferences > content > fonts > advanced to always use your own fonts, and see if that fixes it.  That should at least tell you if it is a font selection problem.  You could also check the antialias settings in system > preferences > fonts
[04:02] <GTX> Some how X keeps restarting when im typing something, Its when im  holding shift and backspace or something but its driving me CRAZY! how do i stop it
[04:02] <jrib> jordan_: apt-cache policy gcc | grep -i Installed
[04:02] <quiet> it's fine to remove the -386 kernel and all it's stuff if i have the -66 kernel installed, yeah?
[04:03] <gnomefreak> quiet: should be
[04:03] <dr_willis> GTX you are using that Fancy X thing.. glx or whatever its called correct?
[04:03] <abhinay> how to set kdm as default display manager ?
[04:03] <quiet> figured so.
[04:03] <gnomefreak> dr_willis: xgl?
[04:03] <jrib> abhinay: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[04:03] <dr_willis> gnomefreak,  yea thats it :P
[04:03] <GTX> dr_willis, Its installed but not using it no.
[04:03] <jordan_> jrib : It Just said Installed (None)
[04:04] <jordan_> so its not installed?
[04:04] <jrib> jordan_: nope, install the package 'build-essential', that will pull in gcc as well as other development stuff you will need
[04:04] <dr_willis> GTX id double check that - thats identical to a issue that a lot of the XGL people have.
[04:04] <danf_1979> does ubuntu-server come with a ssh server installed?
[04:04] <dr_willis> danf_1979,  its trivial to install one. its not installed by default I think.
[04:05] <dr_willis> !ssh
[04:05] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:05] <GTX> ok dr_willis
[04:05] <ardchoille> Is there a way to disable the ctrl+alt+del key combo from shutting down?
[04:05] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  yes - i think  its in the inittab file.
[04:05] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: yes please see help.ubuntu.com  i cant remember how
[04:05] <CarinArr> jrib, if i tell it always to use my fonts it looks fine
[04:05] <gnomefreak> i know its ont here though
[04:06] <ardchoille> gnomefreak , dr_willis : Thanks, will look it up
[04:06] <dr_willis> you can set what alt-ctrl-del does in the /etc/inittab (I think. i altered it ages ago)
[04:06] <user-land> installing ubuntu succeeded, but while rebooting i again get invalid superblock for the root drive.
[04:06] <Ace2010> how do i copy a folder and all its contents in the command line?
[04:06] <XplOzIon> how would i active vnc-server in a server from ssh?
[04:06] <Ace2010> i want to duplicate it
[04:06] <jrib> CarinArr: that is what I do, I don't know if there is a way to make the other fonts look smoother
[04:06] <gnomefreak> Ace2010: cp
[04:06] <fyrestrtr> danf_1979: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:06] <jordan_> jrib : E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:06] <jordan_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:06] <jordan_>  (Whats that for?)
[04:06] <fuoco> can i install a new kernel in dapper? 2.6.17 ?
[04:06] <Ace2010> gnomefreak: thanks
[04:06] <gnomefreak> Ace2010: yw
[04:06] <nofale> hi, i have a problem at bott of ubuntu 6.02
[04:06] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  run 'vncserver' - which  may or may not start up the right window manager for you.
[04:06] <jordan_> That came when i tried to apt it
[04:06] <fyrestrtr> jordan_: close synaptic
[04:06] <gnomefreak> jordan_: close synaptic
[04:06] <nofale> *boot
[04:06] <dyn-afk> fuoco yes you can
[04:07] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  reading the vncserver script will tell you a lot of info about what it does/how it runs.
[04:07] <Smjor> CarinArr, problem solved?
[04:07] <jordan_> synaptic crashed earlier
[04:07] <nofale> the error is "invalid boot sector"
[04:07] <Chrono_trigger>
[04:07] <jordan_> but its not open
[04:07] <danf_1979> yes I know, but I wanted to use ubuntu as a production server. The problem is, I am not going to do the installation, and the server will be in a datacenter
[04:07] <CarinArr> it's just weird cause i don't think i've ever had to do it before..
[04:07] <dyn-afk> but you'll have to compile the 2.6.17 kernel yourself
[04:07] <danf_1979> nice move ubuntu devs
[04:07] <danf_1979> :/
[04:07] <GTX> dr_willis, how do I fully remove it?
[04:07] <XplOzIon> dr_willis thanks but since im using ssh to manage the server
[04:07] <CarinArr> normally it's looked fine with just standard settings in firefox
[04:07] <fuoco> dyn-afk: i can't find how ?
[04:07] <user-land> should i try to repair the superblock or reinstall on another partition _
[04:07] <gnomefreak> jordan_: its still running look for it in ps aux and kill the pid
[04:07] <ardchoille> dr_willis: It is indeed in /etc/inittab I'll alter it there, thanks again :)
[04:07] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  i ssh into my remote machine all the time and run vncserver, then fire up a vncclient to connect.
[04:07] <nofale> can someone help me?
[04:07] <jordan_> ....
[04:07] <jordan_> how do i do that?
[04:08] <dyn-afk> fuoco the same way as one would do it on debian
[04:08] <dr_willis> GTX no clue there - it never has worked for me - so i dont mess with it any more.
[04:08] <dyn-afk> and there are tutorials for those
[04:08] <XplOzIon> dr_willis ok ill try... thanks!
[04:08] <jordan_> is ther contraol alt delete in lunux?
[04:08] <jordan_> linux
[04:08] <dyn-afk> maybe ubotu has one for ubuntu
[04:08] <gnomefreak> jordan_: it doesnt do the same as windows
[04:08] <jrib> jordan_: system > administration > system monitor
[04:08] <fuoco> dyn-afk: yeah, but i couldn't find anything
[04:08] <gnomefreak> jordan_: just restart X its easier
[04:08] <dyn-afk> I came across one in the ubuntuforums.org yesterday
[04:09] <dr_willis> I would also guess that SSH is NOT installed by default - because it could be considered 'bad' to have a service running that many people dont need by default.
[04:09] <ardchoille> dr_willis: Looks like I can also reduce the number of tty's in that file to, is that correct?
[04:09] <dyn-afk> search the ubuntuforums :)
[04:09] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  if you would want to. :)  no idea why ya would want to.
[04:09] <jordan_> I dont see system monitor
[04:09] <jordan_> nvm
[04:11] <abhinay> hey, i hv a problem - not logging in , if entered my username & password it is comming out to gdm again... ?  any suggestions ?
[04:11] <jordan_> I dont see systematic
[04:11] <jordan_> how do i restart x or whatever
[04:11] <dr_willis> abhinay,  clean install? update? try the console..
[04:11] <fyrestrtr> ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X
[04:11] <jrib> abhinay: check ownership of ~/.{ICE,X}authority
[04:12] <cd_rom> jesus, lmao my broadband is so slow in ubuntu that synaptic failed to download a package
[04:12] <cd_rom> lord almighty
[04:12] <jrib> cd_rom: that doesn't happen on my dialup!
[04:12] <cd_rom> jrib: i know
[04:12] <abhinay> is there any command wich changes all settings to default settings ?
[04:12] <abhinay> iam able to login as root ...
[04:12] <cd_rom> jrib: download is about 8840b
[04:12] <cd_rom> XD
[04:13] <abhinay> but not with my username & passwd ...
[04:13] <jrib> abhinay: were those files owned by your user?
[04:13] <dyn-afk> fuoco take a look at this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85064
[04:13] <default> hi
[04:13] <fuoco> thx
[04:13] <dyn-afk> it's for breezy but it's still the same procedure
[04:14] <cd_rom> ok, i am at ubuntu forum with a thread about slow internet connection so i open up /etc/reselv.conf
[04:14] <lens_> LOL, seems the problems were not caused by my installation, my mouse is running out of juice.
[04:14] <cd_rom> and there are 2 nameserver
[04:14] <dr_willis> abhinay,  you  made a root password?
[04:14] <XplOzIon> dr_willis: thanks a lot.. works perfect!!
[04:14] <abhinay> dr_willis, Yes
[04:14] <fuoco> dyn-afk: that's for manually compiling, right  ?
[04:14] <cd_rom> so should i shift the second to top or what?
[04:14] <phenex> i need some help with apt... when i try to apt-get anything i get an error with deptree ir something like that, which says "run dpkg --configure -a". when i do that i get berezovsky@myth:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:14] <default> small question: I have ubuntu dapper 6.06 installed, my notebook has a ati graphics card and I'd like to update the driver as the driver (fglrx) from the repository is not the latest. Now, what is the best strategy to replace the old one? I mean, should I first remove the one installed with synaptic and then install the .run file from ati - all without rebooting or what would be the best order?
[04:14] <phenex> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[04:14] <phenex> Aborted
[04:15] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  i got my fileserver set where i vnc in and it auto-starts up a vnc session for me - giving me the GDM login screen. :)
[04:15] <phenex> any idea what can i do to solve this?
[04:15] <fyrestrtr> default: read !ati
[04:15] <abhinay> jrib, where can i find   " ~/.{ICE,X}authority  "  ?
[04:15] <default> !ati
[04:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:15] <oskude> fyi: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/devices.html#names (who ever it was)
[04:15] <phenex> the weird thing is that from time to time apt suddenly decides to work... then it finishes and stops working again
[04:16] <default> fyrestrtr & aubotu: thanks
[04:16] <jrib> abhinay: ~/.{ICE,X}authority means /home/USERNAME/.Xauthority and /home/USERNAME/.ICEauthority
[04:16] <user-land> the Ubuntu installer partitioner does not do what you tell him to do:
[04:16] <varsendaggr>  /j #blender
[04:16] <XplOzIon> dr_willis great.maybe you could helpme with another thing
[04:16] <dyn-afk> yes fuoco that's for manually compiling, after compiling you create a .deb package and you install the .deb package
[04:16] <Badm4n> fyrestrtr : how
[04:16] <[NaRuTo] > [abhinay]
[04:16] <dyn-afk> the advantage: with the .deb package you can uninstall the kernel :)
[04:17] <[NaRuTo] > the ~ simbols is the same that you Home directory
[04:17] <fuoco> dyn-afk: yeah ok, i see
[04:17] <Badm4n> i have client <IP_ADDRESS>-10 .. and i using 2 GW ... i want to make exception <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> using gw1 and other using gw2 how is it ?
[04:17] <quiet> where do i blacklist a module in ubuntu?
[04:17] <[NaRuTo] > ~/foo and $HOME/foo and /home/user/foo is the same ;)
[04:17] <fuoco> dyn-afk: i look if i can still find a ready made image deb
[04:17] <quiet> nm
[04:17] <quiet> found it
[04:17] <abhinay> jrib, -rw------- 1 root root 126 2006-07-25 16:09 .Xauthority
[04:17] <user-land> i tell it to format hdc1 as root, but instead it warns that two swap partitions will be formatted, but no mention of my hdc1 ...
[04:17] <jrib> abhinay: delete them
[04:17] <[NaRuTo] > yep, remove
[04:18] <abhinay> r u sure ?
[04:18] <[NaRuTo] > and restart X
[04:18] <[NaRuTo] > :)
[04:18] <[NaRuTo] > yes
[04:18] <jordan_> Still not working
[04:18] <jrib> abhinay: yes, you can rename them if you prefer, or chown them to your user, deleting is easier
[04:18] <[NaRuTo] > is a common error :P
[04:18] <[NaRuTo] > yep
[04:18] <jordan_> It says cannot lock direcory and stuff
[04:18] <user-land> can i easily format the root partition on the terminal ?
[04:18] <[NaRuTo] > X session create this file at start
[04:18] <XplOzIon> dr_willis: you know an ftp server manager? a good one. that will let me set user accouts path anywhere?
[04:19] <jrib> jordan_: just reboot
[04:19] <Klump3n> wtf happened to the update thingy?!
[04:19] <abhinay> delete both .Xauthority & .ICEauthority
[04:19] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  my advice for ftp - Ditch it.. and use ssh. :)
[04:19] <[NaRuTo] > ujmm
[04:19] <[NaRuTo] > i think
[04:19] <jrib> abhinay: yeah, they'll get created again when you login
[04:19] <[NaRuTo] > that only .ICEautho.. run
[04:19] <abhinay> jrib, ok
[04:19] <Klump3n> i use gnome, and synaptic shows sth about kde-libs. then: xserver crashes
[04:19] <jordan_> Would a broken package be messing me up?
[04:20] <XplOzIon> dr_willis well i cant. i need ftp server :/
[04:20] <jordan_> Synaptic (Just opened) Says i have one
[04:20] <ali> is there a amd64 dist for debian?
[04:20] <XplOzIon> ali yes
[04:20] <fyrestrtr> ali: in december there will be
[04:20] <jrib> jordan_: maybe, what package?
[04:20] <ali> ok
[04:21] <jordan_> No clue
[04:21] <jordan_> Just says to use a filter...
[04:21] <fyrestrtr> jordan_: means click on the button marked 'Broken' on the bottom left hand corner
[04:21] <thompa> is there a way to tell grub to install on 2nd linux drive rather than mbr of windows?
[04:22] <fyrestrtr> thompa: how would you boot into linux then?
[04:22] <thompa> i dont want grub to mess with windos hard disk
[04:22] <oskude> thompa: you can install grub in a floppy mbr and use that as boot disk
[04:23] <thompa> it has a restore partition, last time i tried it only that and ubuntu would boot
[04:23] <thompa> i got no floppy
[04:23] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: If he did that, wouldn't he have to tell BIOS to boot from 2nd hdd?
[04:23] <MrFeetio> what is a good torrent program that allows me to set priority over multiple torrent, and works on linux
[04:23] <helfrez> any server issues again today? im getting some malformned release files in a few repositories
[04:23] <fyrestrtr> ardchoille: no, that wouldn't work.
[04:23] <oskude> ardchoille: yup, otherwise only windows boots
[04:23] <dr_willis> !torrent
[04:23] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt) Bittorent faq: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[04:24] <Jenkins> what is "Network Connection: lo" ?
[04:24] <thompa> so ubuntu has to go to windows disk mbr?
[04:24] <fyrestrtr> localhost, <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:24] <bobovski> hi all.
[04:24] <Jenkins> where would i find my network card ?
[04:24] <fyrestrtr> Jenkins: in the back of your pc
[04:24] <oskude> thompa: the mbr on the disk doesnt belong to windows, windows just installed its mbr to it...
[04:24] <ardchoille> thompa: That is how I learned to do it, it doesn't harm anything.
[04:24] <bobovski> is there an ssh server included with ubuntu or do I have to install one?
[04:24] <Jenkins> no, i mean like in the properties
[04:25] <Jenkins> to check its connection status
[04:25] <fyrestrtr> bobovski: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:25] <fyrestrtr> Jenkins: it should be there in the gnome network manager
[04:25] <bobovski> fyrestrtr: thanks. will that then be a service started upon install?
[04:25] <fyrestrtr> bobovski: yeap
[04:25] <thompa> ardchoille: hows that?
[04:25] <bobovski> cool, thanks
[04:26] <Badm4n> is this posible to route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:26] <jordan_> Apt Is working Now :) :)
[04:26] <Badm4n> ?
[04:26] <fyrestrtr> bobovski: sorry, not upon install, but you have to install it -- then it will be started automatically from then on.
[04:26] <abhinay> jrib, same problem , nothing has changed ... :\
[04:26] <dyn-afk> hmmz
[04:26] <bobovski> fyrestrtr: yeah, I meant upon boot up :)
[04:26] <ardchoille> thompa: I learned to install Windows first, then install Linux and allow grub to be installed on MBR of master hdd. This way you can choose to boot into either Windows or Linux. But, I hear there are other ways to do it.
[04:26] <Chrono_trigger> hey guys just popping in. I am trying to install ubuntu on a compaq persario 2500 (POS) and the window manager is going so slow I can't get the GUI installer to function.  The computer is not over loaded just sort of crawling for a unknow reason. is there a non-GUI installer I can use of the cd. Desktop version
[04:27] <dyn-afk> I have these mediabuttons on the side of my laptop and I mapped those in GNOME
[04:27] <helfrez> looks like the heatwave may have taken out some more systems lol, some other people in forums reporting problems with some repositories now also
[04:27] <dyn-afk> totem works with all of them
[04:27] <dyn-afk> rythmbox works with nearly all of them
[04:27] <bobovski> fyrstrtr: oh, and it does start after install as well. works perfaect. thanks again
[04:27] <dyn-afk> th eonly button that doesn't work with rythmbox is the play/pause button
[04:27] <thompa> i did some days ago ubuntu install and only recovery partiton or ubuntu would boot
[04:27] <jrib> abhinay: hmm can you check that you have free space available?
[04:27] <dyn-afk> any idea where or how I can add support for that button to rythmbox?
[04:27] <narfmaster> little problem with the repos here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18865
[04:27] <oskude> Chrono_trigger: sadly the desktop cd doesnt have the text-mode installer, you need the alterante cd for that
[04:27] <dyn-afk> or any other mediaplayer then totem
[04:28] <bobovski> have you tried totem-xine/
[04:28] <abhinay> jrib, 27 % free , available
[04:28] <dyn-afk> I just want to use rythmbos for my mp3's and use the play/pause button
[04:28] <jrib> abhinay: don't know then, deleting those two files usually does it, you must be having a different issue
[04:28] <`Evil`> Can anyone help with letting VMware access partitions by default? Unless I run it in as su in term it keeps giving access denied
[04:28] <oskude> Chrono_trigger: or maybe the resolution is "too big" for vesa driver, try the "compatible vga mode" or how its called
[04:29] <dyn-afk> if I can add the play/pause button support to rythmbox I'm a happy guy :P
[04:29] <bobovski> dyn-afk: ah. I'm an xmms fan, dunno about rythymbos
[04:29] <bobovski> er, box
[04:29] <ali> i can't log in as root in gnome but it's possible when I log in at a real terminal
[04:29] <abhinay> jrib, i recently updated my system to edgy eft
[04:29] <quiet> can anyone tell me the name of the theme that is just like the normal Human theme, only it's more of a blue color....  Human-Industrial??  is it in the repos or do i need to get it from gnome-look?
[04:29] <fyrestrtr> abhinay: #ubuntu+1
[04:29] <oskude> ali: you should not use root, thats what sudo is for
[04:29] <jrib> abhinay: #ubuntu+1 is for edgy, and it's a development version so it may be broken now
[04:30] <abhinay> thank you
[04:30] <bobovski> thanks again, all gotta run
[04:30] <Chrono_trigger> yeah I tried the vga. its wierd the screen saver runs fine so I dont think its a video thing but anything that has to do with gnome takes forever to load but data transfer is find.
[04:30] <ali> oskude: but im trying to use a administration tool
[04:30] <oskude> Chrono_trigger: its running from cd, so its normal that its slow
[04:30] <frogzoo> abhinay: edgy is at least alpha atm - expect things to break regularly
[04:30] <helfrez> narfmaster: same issues here with some security and alot of the backports for dapper
[04:31] <oskude> ali: then run "sudo commandname"
[04:31] <narfmaster> helfrez, any workaround?
[04:31] <`Evil`> Any help with letting VMware access partitions by default. Unless I run it in as su in term it keeps giving access denied
[04:31] <fuoco> dapper has xorg-7.0 which should have working dri for r300, but it's not working for me. should i do something manually to get it working ?
[04:31] <helfrez> narfmaster: none for me, i just had to disable a bunch of repos, im assuming something else melted in a server room somewhere like the other day lol
[04:31] <grampajoe> Is there any way to find out at what speed a USB device is connected (1.1 or 2.0)?
[04:32] <ardchoille> quiet: Is this the one you're looking for: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=40670
[04:32] <narfmaster> helfrez, okay cool i'm going to see what i can do...
[04:32] <vorbote> `Evil`, not tried, but you could add yourself to the the disk group
[04:32] <helfrez> any OPS wanna chime in or add a msg to the topic, i imagine any moment now peopel will started flodding in with questions about repos heheh
[04:32] <Hobbsee> helfrez: what's this?
[04:32] <Hobbsee> helfrez: they dont again?
[04:33] <helfrez> Hobbsee: yeah some of the repose are coming up malformned relase files
[04:33] <`Evil`> vorbote, good idea, didnt wanna make myself root so guess will try that
[04:33] <Hobbsee> helfrez: ah great
[04:33] <Chrono_trigger> I know that that live CD are slow I have been useing linux for about a year now. LOL but we are talking 10 mine to frame out the window.
[04:33] <quiet> ardchoille, actually it's not... but i do like that.  is it in the repo?
[04:33] <helfrez> Hobbsee: security repos and looks liek at least all the dapper-backports
[04:33] <ardchoille> quiet: I don't know
[04:33] <oskude> grampajoe: you could try: dmesg | grep sub
[04:33] <Hobbsee> helfrez: ah yes, i think i saw that
[04:33] <quiet> ok
[04:33] <ali> oskude: The thing is that im trying to run the program "users and groups", and i dont know what it is called from the console,
[04:34] <Chrono_trigger> hmmm you guys just have one kernel on the disk?
[04:34] <ardchoille> helfrez: security.ubuntu.com may be down, but archive.ubuntu.com is working
[04:34] <oskude> ali: and it should ask for a password, right ? its askin you password, if youre the user created at installation
[04:34] <jake> hi anyone know a way to add the sun java to the firefox browser
[04:34] <ardchoille> hmm..  Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/Release
[04:34] <helfrez> ardchoille:just some of the repos look liek then need to be refreshed, serves are not down
[04:34] <aladds> can someone tell me why my installation fails to boot due to the script /sbin/evms_activate being missing from the initrd and what i can do about it?
[04:35] <helfrez> ardchoille: exactly lol
[04:35] <frogzoo> !java
[04:35] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:35] <`Evil`> vorbote, naah, not working :(
[04:35] <ardchoille> helfrez: Ahh, ok
[04:35] <oskude> grampajoe: i get "[17179579.616000]  usb 1-2: new low speed USB device " and i know its 1.1 so i assume that low speed means 1.1, but i could be wrong
[04:35] <n2ob> what's the command to fetch a cvs directory?
[04:35] <adel> aloow
[04:35] <helfrez> ardchoille: just some of the repose look liek they have gotten corrupted release files or sumthin, all servers responding atm
[04:35] <acuster> how do I make \theta and \phi and \psi in the inkscape textbox (or the terminal for that matter)
[04:35] <ali> oskude, yes, and im typing the right password, but I only get wrong password, but i know it works, beacouse i can login as root on a terminal with that password
[04:35] <ardchoille> yeah
[04:36] <grampajoe> oskude: I get a message about a new hi-speed device, and I found something in the device manager that tells me it's 2.0
[04:36] <oskude> ali: hmm, you should be able to login as root anywhere...
[04:36] <narfmaster> Hobbsee, archive.ubuntu.com is up but i timeout on certain files there
[04:36] <vorbote> `Evil`, you need to reboot. I know that's silly but for some reason the kernel is not notified of the group change whe it is done (I'm sure it is ia bug but dunno where).
[04:36] <oskude> ali: *shouldnt
[04:36] <adel> haloooo
[04:36] <adel> how are you??
[04:36] <oskude> grampajoe: then it seems to be a usb2.0 bus
[04:36] <gnomefreak> narfmaster: security is having issues here atleast
[04:37] <`Evil`> vorbote, ah k
[04:37] <adel> gw bru pertama chat disini 'n ga ngerti gmn cara na?
[04:37] <adel> da yg bsa ajarin ga?
[04:37] <oskude> ali: did you do somehow set a password for root ? you shouldnt...
[04:37] <fyrestrtr> god don't you just love waiting for backups to get done *sigh*
[04:37] <void^> vorbote: relogin should do, or use newgrp in terminal
[04:37] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: lol
[04:37] <narfmaster> helfrez, i think the workaround for now is to wait a week or so... :/
[04:37] <Drakeson> what is the version (date) of emacs-snapshot in edgy? should I move to the unstable edgy to get a fresh one?
[04:37] <backupForWimps> any high parallel computing centre for bioinfo using ubuntu?
[04:37] <oskude> ali: try "sudo echo foo" in terminal and try your password, if the user is really the user that was created during installation, something is wrong
[04:38] <vorbote> void^, I didnt know that. Thanks for the tip!
[04:38] <gnomefreak> !info emacs-snapshot edgy
[04:38] <ubotu> emacs-snapshot: The GNU Emacs editor (development snapshot). In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:20060707-1 (edgy), package size 1964 kB, installed size 5744 kB
[04:38] <oskude> ali: eh, i mean if it doesnt work, somwthing is wrog
[04:38] <jake> kk i have that installed is thier away i can install the old microsoft virtual machine java system to firefox
[04:38] <helfrez> narfmaster: im thinking ur right, so much stuff went down the other day, im sure this is just a slight backlash...i just disabled everything returning errors FTM
[04:38] <narfmaster> helfrez, i wish it were that simple... i'm getting errors on repos randomly at this point
[04:38] <Drakeson> !info emacs-snapshot dapper
[04:38] <ubotu> emacs-snapshot: The GNU Emacs editor (development snapshot). In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:20060114-1 (dapper), package size 2490 kB, installed size 7648 kB
[04:40] <`Evil`> vorbote, didnt work, can i create a shortcut which always runs vmware as root or something like that?
[04:40] <thiago__> hi
[04:40] <Drakeson> ahh! I am growing the feeling that I need to move to edgy to get upgraded packages, (in other words, can one really rely on backports, honestly?)
[04:40] <oskude> Drakeson: do you really need upgraded packages ?
[04:41] <abhinay> can i install dapper on edgy  ?
[04:41] <Drakeson> there are a few packages I need upgraded, like emacs
[04:41] <lordzero> im new in ubuntu and im using a live cd, how can i keep my stuff i downloaded or the changes i made?
[04:41] <ardchoille> Drakeson: edgy is still beta, so updated packages may or may not work
[04:41] <ali> oskude: I tried to type the root password but it doenst work, Should't I have a root passoword and a password for my user?
[04:42] <dr_willis> !root
[04:42] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:42] <ardchoille> ali: you should only have your user password, unless yuo have enabled the root account yourself.
[04:42] <oskude> ali: as i said, "sudo" ask your password (if youre the first user created, like at the installation)
[04:42] <interfear> Do I want to use XMMS as my mp3 player? is there something else you guys can recommend?
[04:42] <`Evil`> Anyone using vmware here?
[04:42] <backupForWimps> interfear, use MPLAYER instead
[04:42] <dr_willis> interfear,  theres many players.. xmms is an older one.. beep media player is nice. or the juke/amarok/others.
[04:43] <backupForWimps> mplayer -loop 0 *.mp3
[04:43] <goudkov> how can i install glibc-devel on dapper?
[04:43] <backupForWimps> or use mp3blastwr
[04:43] <ali> oskude: I installed ubuntu in expert mode, and I was able to set a root password
[04:43] <Drakeson> ardchoille: some packages often tend to work, even at beta stage.
[04:43] <backupForWimps> mp3blaster
[04:43] <thiago__> i've  problems with winecfg. Where do : winecfg, result = thiago@thiago-desktop:~$ winecfg
[04:43] <thiago__> Creating link /home/thiago/.kde/socket-thiago-desktop.
[04:43] <thiago__> can't create mcop directory
[04:43] <thiago__>  , thiago@thiago-desktop:~$ winecfg
[04:43] <thiago__> Creating link /home/thiago/.kde/socket-thiago-desktop.
[04:43] <thiago__> can't create mcop directory
[04:43] <interfear> dr_willis: yeh, for some reason amarok wont work, i dunno il try to figure it out..
[04:43] <thiago__> .  can me help ?
[04:43] <interfear> backupForWimps: yeh i need to find a nice skin for mplayer
[04:44] <backupForWimps> interfear, just use command line ;-)
[04:44] <oskude> ali: well, then youre an expert, you should know ;) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:44] <lordzero> can any one help me on that one?
[04:44] <abhinay> is it possible to install dapper on edgy using dapper installation CD ?
[04:44] <backupForWimps> any1 from MALAYSIA here?
[04:44] <interfear> backupForWimps: :)
[04:44] <dr_willis> expert mode seems to be used more by nonexperts then it is experts....
[04:44] <dr_willis> :)
[04:44] <ardchoille> lol
[04:45] <ali> oskude: Hehe, im not used to not having the root password :) I was using slackware, but i wanted something that supports my amd64 processor
[04:45] <fyrestrtr> dr_willis: so true lol
[04:45] <oskude> ali: you login (in gnome) with the user (not root!) you created during installation, then click the program you want to use, and if it asks for a password, its the password of that user, not roots password
[04:45] <Drakeson> ali: sudo works just fine, trust it
[04:46] <ryan_naruto> when i restart my comp it makes my desktop setting to use ubuntu when im logging in to Xfce desktop i always menu>settings>desktop setting> tick on allow Xfce to manage desktop.... is there a way that i wont do this everytime i restart my pc
[04:46] <josh__> what are the commands to modify users/groups?
[04:46] <oskude> fyrestrtr: ive seen lot starting using sudo
[04:46] <thiago__> i've  problems with winecfg. Where do : winecfg, result = thiago@thiago-desktop:~$ winecfg  , thiago@thiago-desktop:~$ winecfg Creating link /home/thiago/.kde/socket-thiago-desktop.can't create mcop directory .  can me help ?
[04:47] <josh__> i need to delete the nx user and group so i can reinstall freenx
[04:47] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: AFAIK, Ubuntu is the only distro that uses sudo bydefault and lockes the root account at installation.
[04:47] <lordzero> how do i save changes on a live cd?
[04:47] <dr_willis> fyrestrtr,  the linspire disrto defaults to the user being root all the time... which is real real scary. :)
[04:47] <grampajoe> What's the command to make a script file executable?
[04:47] <fyrestrtr> ardchoille: os x does it too, but its no linux :)
[04:47] <josh__> lord... uy dont save changes
[04:47] <fyrestrtr> dr_willis: well, considering they are emulating Windows, it makes sense.
[04:47] <oskude> lordzero: thats not ment to be done in ubuntu desktio cd
[04:48] <ardchoille> I knew there was something about linspire that I didn't like
[04:48] <fyrestrtr> grampajoe: chmod +x filename
[04:48] <dr_willis> fyrestrtr,  Emulate the worst of both worlds!
[04:48] <dr_willis> :P
[04:48] <fyrestrtr> dr_willis: exactly
[04:48] <dr_willis> theres a lot about Linspire to Not like. :)
[04:48] <lordzero> so i need to instal it instead of using a live cd?
[04:48] <dr_willis> lordzero,  or use a usb thumb drive to save stuff to.
[04:48] <abhinay> i hv a problem with mplayer; saying "Requested audio codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not available , Enable it at compilation "   ???
[04:48] <lordzero> ok
[04:48] <lordzero> thanks
[04:48] <fyrestrtr> abhinay: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:49] <josh__> anyone know those commands?
[04:49] <frogzoo> !permissions > grampajoe
[04:49] <ardchoille> josh__: Which commands?
[04:49] <josh__> the ones for modifying users/groups
[04:50] <josh__> i need to delete the nx user and the nx group
[04:50] <fyrestrtr> josh__: usermod
[04:50] <josh__> then i need to add 2 user names and add them to the sudo list
[04:50] <thiago__> i hv  a problem with winecfg. When do $ winecfg, result =  thiago@thiago-desktop:~$ winecfg Creating link /home/thiago/.kde/socket-thiago-desktop.can't create mcop directory . Any me undestand ?
[04:50] <homerh_linux> hiya ppl
[04:50] <fyrestrtr> josh__: to delete, userdel groupdel
[04:50] <josh__> usermod deletes groups too?
[04:50] <josh__> ahh... thats why i couldn';t do it...
[04:50] <josh__> was trying to do groupmod
[04:50] <josh__> lol
[04:50] <dr_willis> thiago__,  i cant recall ever rnning winecfg -
[04:50] <fyrestrtr> josh__: to add, useradd -- and ... you guessed it, groupadd :P
[04:51] <ali> oskude: Does these administration tools use sudo when i try to run them?
[04:51] <homerh_linux> hiya ppl i cant find my samba shares ,i can only find them when i connect to server and enter ip otherwise i cant see them when i browse windows shares
[04:51] <oskude> ali: yup, atleast from the gnome menus
[04:51] <dr_willis> homerh_linux,  the samba config file has a 'browseable' option that may be off by default. as well as 'writeonly' being set.'
[04:51] <oskude> ali: if you run them from terminal, you need the command "sudo" in front of them
[04:52] <thiago__> dr_willis: More i he reinstall
[04:52] <ali> oskude yeah I know, but thanks :)
[04:52] <fyrestrtr> ali: otherwise, strange and curious results may happen.
[04:52] <josh__> ok u wouldn't happen to know a link to how i can set more sudoers from the commandline would ya? adding a user to sudo group doesn't work
[04:52] <thiago__> dr_willis: More i hv reinstall
[04:52] <fyrestrtr> josh__: add the concerned user to the admin group
[04:52] <oskude> josh__: i think the group was "admin" or so
[04:52] <josh__> admin....
[04:52] <josh__> no sudo?
[04:52] <ardchoille> josh__: add user to admin group
[04:52] <josh__> ok
[04:53] <fyrestrtr> josh__: any user in the admin group has rights to sudo
[04:53] <oskude> josh__: but would be more logical to have group sudo ..
[04:53] <grampajoe> I can't get mtp (media transfer protocol) to work on my pc, it won't recognize my Creative Zen Vision:M, can anyone offer any suggestions?
[04:53] <Chrono_trigger> hmmm the real slow response seems to be isolated to the install program
[04:53] <josh__> thats what i was doing wrong there.... lol i almost have this sucker fixed now :)
[04:53] <homerh_linux> dr_willis the smb.conf is ok all set alright (i think ) i has been working but its stoped for some reason
[04:53] <dr_willis> homerh_linux,  samba can be a very fickled beasty! :)
[04:53] <josh__> so... usermod -G admin josh then do a usermod -g all,other,groups josh
[04:53] <josh__> ?
[04:54] <ardchoille> josh__: From the wiki: in the terminal this would be: sudo adduser $user admin, where you replace $user with the name of the user.
[04:54] <dr_willis> homerh_linux,  i tend to edit my /etc/hosts file and put in the name/ips of all my machines also.
[04:54] <josh__> lol yeah but my sudo dont work so i gotta do it as root lol
[04:54] <homerh_linux> yeah i took me ages to get it working
[04:54] <josh__> but whatever... as long as it works :)
[04:55] <fyrestrtr> mirrors are down?
[04:55] <XplOzIon> how can i remove for example mysql-server with all conf files and everything
[04:56] <fyrestrtr> XplOzIon: sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-server
[04:56] <josh__> next question... how do i make it not ask me for the password?
[04:56] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: some, yes
[04:56] <XplOzIon> thanks fyrestrtr
[04:56] <josh__> i had it fixed that way before but i dont remember what i did to make it that way
[04:56] <josh__> and i was at home in front of the computer using the user/groups gui to change stuff...
[04:56] <josh__> lol
[04:56] <fyrestrtr> josh__: for your safety and the safety of others, always enter the password.
[04:56] <josh__> which i cant do right now because i cant get freenx working
[04:56] <ali> what's the reasons why ubuntu is better that debian?
[04:56] <eitch0000> where would I go for info on webcams?
[04:57] <fyrestrtr> ali: this chatroom
[04:57] <fyrestrtr> !webcam
[04:57] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:57] <ardchoille> ali: ubuntuforums.org
[04:57] <josh__> ali... ubuntu is user friendly while still being powerful enough for the guru's
[04:57] <thiago__> eitch0000: vc eh brasileiro ?
[04:57] <ali> ok, ill check out that forum too.
[04:58] <oskude> ali: better is relative... but ubuntu is "better" for first time users (atm)
[04:58] <gregg__> ubuntu is good for people who don't want to spend half their life just installing and configuring their OS
[04:58] <dr_willis> ubuntu is good for people.
[04:58] <dr_willis> :)
[04:58] <josh__> fyrestrtr: i understand its safer for other users... but it is my personal computer and constantly having to input the password each time will just make me want to su it and that could be more dangerous :)
[04:58] <dr_willis> Builds Character!
[04:59] <srikat> hello
[04:59] <fyrestrtr> hey, its brown and has got a cool, 'we are the world'-type logo. What more you want?
[04:59] <gregg__> josh__: well, you don't need to enter it each time, sudo remembers your password for I think 10 minutes
[04:59] <ardchoille> lol
[04:59] <srikat> does ubuntu installer ask for GRUB location? if so, is it C: drive?
[05:00] <josh__> yeah but when i sit in front of this box... lol i change everything
[05:00] <fyrestrtr> srikat: normally, it doesn't.
[05:00] <josh__> constantly :)
[05:00] <oskude> srikat: sadly the graphical installer doesnt ask for a location for the grub
[05:00] <gregg__> srikat: grub is installed into the MBR
[05:00] <srikat> for a comp that has xp pro running at C:, is the MBR on C:?
[05:00] <oskude> srikat: and fyi: c: is no partition
[05:01] <gregg__> srikat: no, the MBR is outside any partition
[05:01] <srikat> I've taken a screenshot of my current partitions..can you guys kindly look at it and tell me where MBR would be?
[05:01] <gregg__> srikat: the MBR is the first sector of the hard disk, it gets executed first when booting
[05:01] <srikat> http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/1522/1002706921317273764_rs.jpg
[05:02] <oskude> srikat: you dont see mbr on any partition tool. theres only one mbr on disk, and its in the first cylinder of the whole disk
[05:02] <ardchoille> srikat: It most likely won't be on a screenshot of partitions. MBR is the first 512 kb of a hard drive.
[05:02] <grampajoe> How do I get an MTP mp3 player (Creative Zen Vision:M) to be recognized by Linux?
[05:02] <gregg__> ardchoille: byte :)
[05:02] <srikat> what if there are 3 disks, like in the jpg I linked above?
[05:02] <gregg__> grampajoe: gphoto2 can do it
[05:02] <oskude> srikat: and your mbr is on the disk you said to be used as boot device in bios
[05:02] <ardchoille> oh, sorry, byte, no kb
[05:02] <interfear> grampajoe: i have a creative zen micro and it detects it
[05:03] <oskude> srikat: wh, *the windows boot loader
[05:03] <BarryAllen> hi all
[05:03] <Sonobana> Hello! How i change default language of dapper live-cd
[05:03] <srikat> hmm..I guess I understood
[05:03] <grampajoe> I've been trying many, many things over the past two days and I can't get anything like Gnomad2 or Kzenexplorer to recognize that it's connected
[05:04] <srikat> let me just proceed w/ the installation and see what happens
[05:04] <grampajoe> gregg_: Why would a program for digital cameras work?
[05:04] <meng>  /quit
[05:04] <Chrono_trigger> I know this is hardware related
[05:04] <josh__> so... where can i get some info on takin out the password for sudo?
[05:04] <CappO> where can i find a list with wireless cards that ubuntu natively supports ?
[05:05] <oskude> srikat: i dont really know where the graphical installer install grub... on the disk you installed ubuntu, or on the first disk(master) on ide1,...
[05:05] <jszaszvari> Josh - ??
[05:05] <ardchoille> josh__: Why do you want to do that?