[04:58] <mazal> maaz tell Kilos Het oom nie na hierdie tipe tool gesoek op 'n stadium nie ? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/camicri-cube-a-tool-for-offlineonline-package-management.html
[04:58] <Maaz> mazal: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[05:51] <Kilos> morning everyone
[06:18] <Kilos> Maaz  ydiw
[06:18] <Maaz> You're Doing It Wrong
[06:18] <Kilos> sigh, whats new
[06:32] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:32] <mazal> oom Kilos , my boodskap gekry van maaz af ?
[06:32] <Kilos> hi mazal  dankie
[06:32] <Kilos> ja dankie, het dit in trello gesit
[06:32] <mazal> kewl
[06:33] <mazal> Wat's trello ?
[06:33] <Kilos> gekyk daarna so vinnig, lyk goed
[06:33] <Kilos> ai!
[06:33] <Kilos> ons gebruik n trello ding
[06:33] <mazal> omte ?
[06:33] <Kilos> klaar vergeet hoe of waar
[06:34] <Kilos> om te wys wat moet gedoen word en wat is klaar ens
[06:34] <mazal> Ahh ok , like a project management thing ?
[06:34] <Kilos> https://trello.com/
[06:35] <mazal> Looks nice , I am looking for an app like that to organize my things , but that one seems online only ?
[06:36] <Kilos> ek gebruik dit om te kyk wat ek vergeet het om te doen
[06:36] <Kilos> ja online
[06:36] <Kilos> so ander kan ook sien en bysit of help
[06:38] <Kilos> its for the fly and pro to remind me hehe
[06:39] <Kilos> they get an email saying Kilos did it wrong again
[06:43] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[06:43] <Kilos> hi pad
[06:43] <Padroni> hi Kilos
[06:43] <Kilos> hi Padroni
[06:43] <Padroni> how are you?
[06:44] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[06:44] <Padroni> I'm good
[06:45] <Kilos> lol raising babies is hard work hey
[06:45] <Kilos> i got into trouble lots when ian was small
[06:47] <Kilos> nappy changes were done outside, glodina nappy in dustbin and hosepipe cleaned up nicely
[06:48] <Padroni> hehe
[06:48] <Padroni> it's fun though
[06:48] <Padroni> I love that kid so much.
[06:48] <Kilos> yeah
[06:48] <Kilos> today peeps use them disposable nappies
[06:49] <Kilos> i was tongue lashed about the costs involved
[06:49] <Padroni> yup
[06:49] <Padroni> they are expewnsive
[06:59] <Kilos> oh and the cruelty about using a hosepipe, but ian giggled the whole time, so it couldnt have been bad
[06:59] <Padroni> worse case scenario, you claim being green
[06:59] <Padroni> fertilizing the lawn
[06:59] <Kilos> lol
[07:00] <Kilos> i dont know how women can handle the smell
[07:00] <Kilos> or how milk can cause such a smell
[07:02] <Padroni> breast milk diapers are fine
[07:02] <Padroni> it's when they go off that, that it becomes terrible.
[07:05] <Kilos> ya this was nan
[07:05] <Kilos> he was 2 months and 3 weeks prem so was 3 months old before coming home
[07:06] <Padroni> damn
[07:06] <Kilos> luckily petrol was cheap back then
[07:15] <mazal> Kilos: I am trying out trello a bit. Looks like a very handy app
[07:15] <Kilos> works good for me
[07:16] <Kilos> i look at it first thing and sigh "Oh no, not again"
[07:23] <Kilos> hi Xethron
[07:24] <mazal> There isn't any easy I maybe can import my bookmarks from chrome into trello ?
[07:24] <mazal> I've made a hyperlink card and want to put important ones in there , will I have to manually do them ?
[07:25] <Kilos> you make cards for "to do"  "parked ideas"  "current activities" and "done"
[07:26] <Padroni> mail queues are going quick today
[07:26] <Padroni> already did 4 servers
[07:27] <Padroni> it's because I don't have to add my IP to /etc/hosts.allow on the servers this morning
[07:27] <Kilos> or you make lists with those headings then add cards in them
[07:27] <Kilos> how did you get past that Padroni
[07:28] <Padroni> past what?
[07:28] <Kilos> the ip thing
[07:28] <Padroni> oh
[07:28] <Padroni> we have one server that I SSH into
[07:29] <Kilos> ok
[07:29] <Padroni> then from there I can ssh to all the rest, add my IP, then access the server backed WHM software
[07:29] <Padroni> else it tells me to p!ss off
[07:29] <Kilos> lol
[07:30] <Padroni> 'computer says no'
[07:43] <Padroni> jeez
[07:43] <Padroni> I'm telling you
[07:43] <Kilos> what
[07:43] <Padroni> people piss me off
[07:43] <Padroni> whenever someone introduces himself as 'the IT guy' for a business
[07:43] <Padroni> I know I am dealing with a twit
[07:44] <Padroni> on the topic of malware infections:
[07:44] <Kilos> its an image peeps think its impressive to use
[07:44] <Padroni> IT Guy :  I have 22 years of experience with this thing
[07:44] <Padroni> Me : I don't care.   How are you guys always online
[07:46] <Maaz> DarkSurferZA: By the way, Charl on freenode told me "tell darksurferza https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7598531" 1 year, 3 months, 2 days, 20 hours, 10 minutes and 22 seconds ago
[07:46] <Padroni> I tried.  It didn't take
[07:46] <Kilos> i use telkom 4g
[07:46] <Kilos> oi
[07:47] <Kilos> wb DarkSurferZA
[07:48] <DarkSurferZA> Soz guys. Windows phone irc app suck plenty.
[07:48] <DarkSurferZA> Keep gettin booted
[07:49] <Kilos> ai!
[07:49] <DarkSurferZA> Will try again from android in an hour or so
[07:49] <Kilos> ok
[07:57] <Kilos> hi fairyface
[07:57] <Kilos> hehe
[07:58] <fairyface> yo
[08:02] <Kilos> fairyface  are you darksurfer?
[08:02] <fairyface> Kilos, nope
[08:02] <fairyface> I do surf though
[08:02] <fairyface> waves not the web
[08:03] <Kilos> lol we had a guy just before you with probs staying connected
[08:03] <Kilos> fairyface  welcome to ubuntu-za
[08:03] <fairyface> dude you are annoying
[08:04] <Kilos> hmm...
[08:12] <Padroni> hi Kilos
[08:12] <Padroni> welcome back
[08:12] <Kilos> ty Padroni
[08:15] <Padroni> Kilos: are you on stackexchange?
[08:16] <Padroni> like stackoverflow or superuser?
[08:16] <mazal> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR4baLQmU0s
[08:16] <mazal> Another Ubuntu phone demo ^^
[08:16] <Kilos> no
[08:16] <mazal> A bit long be warned
[08:16] <Padroni> i want one of those phones
[08:16] <Padroni> but
[08:16] <Padroni> yeah :(
[08:16] <Padroni> i have two iphones
[08:16] <Padroni> my wife will beat me into submission if I get ANOTHER phone
[08:17] <Kilos> lol
[08:17] <mazal> Padroni: I'm still old school , use cheapy small phone that can just phone and sms lol
[08:17] <mazal> Nothing could convince me to get a smart phone , yet
[08:23] <Kilos> started a /ignore list today
[08:23] <mazal> on irc ?
[08:23] <Kilos> yip
[08:23] <mazal> never used that , don't even know how it works
[08:24] <Kilos> easy to do /ignore "nick"
[08:24] <mazal> ah ok
[08:24] <mazal> maaz now you better watch out , i learned something new
[08:24] <Maaz> mazal: Excuse me?
[08:24] <Kilos> lol
[08:24] <mazal> maaz don't be sorry be careful
[08:24] <Maaz> mazal: Excuse me?
[08:25] <mazal> Cheeky bot
[08:26] <Squirm> mornings
[08:26] <mazal> Morning Squirm , how be you ?
[08:27] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[08:27] <Squirm> Heya mazal. Quite well thanks :)
[08:27] <Squirm> Hey there Kilos
[08:27] <Squirm> How are you all?
[08:27] <Kilos> good ty and you lad?
[08:27] <Squirm> Maaz: bring on the coffee!
[08:27] <Maaz> Squirm: Huh?
[08:27] <Squirm> Kilos: quite well :)
[08:27] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee on
[08:27]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[08:27] <Squirm> Maaz: massive
[08:27] <Maaz> Squirm: Huh?
[08:28] <Squirm> Maaz: mginormous
[08:28] <Maaz> Squirm: Huh?
[08:28] <Squirm> Maaz: larger
[08:28] <Maaz> Sorry Squirm  No more than a beer mug full is allowed.  This crap is getting really annoying
[08:30] <mazal> I needs something that can "accidentaly" destroy all usb sticks upon use <eg>
[08:31] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos!
[08:32] <Squirm> Maaz: no botsnack for you, but thanks
[08:32] <Maaz> thanks, Squirm
[08:32] <Kilos> see if you can enforce the This disk is not formatted, would you like to format it
[08:32] <Kilos> Maaz  danke
[08:32] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[08:44] <Padroni> hi Squirm
[08:44] <Padroni> hi Maaz
[08:44] <Padroni> hi mazal
[08:44] <mazal> hi Padroni
[08:45] <Padroni> can you not disable the use of USB ports on their computers?
[08:45] <mazal> I'm not allowed to :(
[08:45] <Kilos> ai!
[08:46] <mazal> Personally I would sommer do the hammer solution until nobody has money left to buy anymore , but that I may not do either :P
[08:46] <Kilos> lol
[08:46] <Padroni> If a USB storage device is already installed on the computer, set the Start value in the following registry key to 4:
[08:46] <Padroni> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\UsbStor
[08:48] <Jacques_Stry> Morning
[08:48] <Kilos> hi Jacques_Stry
[08:48] <Padroni> hi Jacques_Stry
[08:49] <Jacques_Stry> Large area of RTB DSL is offline, so connected via mobile atm...
[08:49] <Padroni> you live in Rustenburg?
[08:52] <Jacques_Stry> Yep
[08:53] <Squirm> Hey Padroni
[08:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://www.pop2imap.com/, haha!
[09:00] <Jacques_Stry> Must say well done to the guy that made that site
[09:01] <Jacques_Stry> Listening to the telkom phone song for the last 15 min, after this i'll probably know the playlist by heart
[09:01] <Kilos> lol
[09:01] <Padroni> Telkom makes me cry
[09:02] <Kilos> dont fight them please i got 4g
[09:02] <Jacques_Stry> having two dsl lines doesn't help when they both connected to the same exchange
[09:03] <Kilos> eina
[09:14] <Padroni> guys
[09:14] <Padroni> need help
[09:15] <Kilos> sjoe
[09:15] <Kilos> say how
[09:15] <Padroni> anyone know of a OS billing program that I can use to bill clients for work done?
[09:15] <Padroni> must run on ubuntu
[09:15] <Padroni> I used to use Kbilling on windows
[09:15] <Padroni> but will prefer using it on my desktop, which is only Ubuntu
[09:17] <Kilos> http://scottnesbitt.net/ubuntublog/four-open-source-invoicing-tools-for-freelancers-and-small-businesses/
[09:20] <inetpro> eish!
[09:20] <inetpro> good mornings
[09:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> you might also ask on the mailing list, and even on clug-chat list perhaps
[09:20] <Kilos> hi inetpro  \
[09:22]  * inetpro getting very frustrated with many sites using fancy and bloated font icons
[09:23] <inetpro> problem case example: http://ubuntu.aspcode.net/view/635400140124705175606214/firefox-can-not-display-some-icons-of-some-english-sites
[09:24] <inetpro> and then there is the new http://www.tshwane.gov.za/
[09:28] <Padroni> meh
[09:28] <Padroni> <meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft SharePoint" />
[09:31] <Kilos> hi SDCDev
[09:31] <Kilos> where are you today?
[09:37] <SDCDev> Langebaan :)
[09:37] <SDCDev> how are you Kilos?
[09:39] <inetpro> Padroni: that site is totally broken now
[09:39] <mazal> Heh , Telkom. I just came back from one of my sites that had no comms and on my way there already Telkom messed up
[09:39] <mazal> For once it wasn't them this time
[09:40] <mazal> already decided even
[10:34] <Kilos> hmm... rather short shed?
[10:34] <mazal> Occording to their site there isn't supposed to be any shedding now
[10:35] <Kilos> lol
[10:35] <Kilos> only for me
[10:35] <Kilos> most likely working somewhere near
[11:27] <magellanic> Squirm: ah, no idea about forigate's sorry
[11:31] <TinuvaMac> they sorta work :P
[11:41] <Symmetria> fortigates?
[11:41] <Symmetria> ugh ;p
[11:41]  * Symmetria is not a fan
[11:42] <TinuvaMac> me neither, which is why I say the sorta work
[11:57] <magespawn> good afternoon
[12:02] <magellanic> heya
[12:05] <Padroni> Kilos:
[12:05] <Kilos> yessir Padroni
[12:05] <Padroni> i just figured out that that file transfer script does not work for some reason
[12:05] <Kilos> ohi magellanic
[12:05] <Padroni> so busy looking at fixing it
[12:05] <Kilos> ohi magespawn   too
[12:05] <Kilos> oi Padroni
[12:06] <Padroni> yar?
[12:06] <Kilos> dont just sit there
[12:06] <Kilos> fix it
[12:11] <Kilos> wb Jacques_Stry
[12:11] <Jacques_Stry> dsl is back - woooot
[12:11] <Kilos> yay
[12:11] <Kilos> that was quick
[12:11] <Kilos> gfo telkom
[12:11] <Kilos> go too
[12:11] <Jacques_Stry> >.<
[12:14] <Jacques_Stry> well it was off 20:30 - 14:00
[12:16] <Kilos> dont kry sisters vodacom internet is off for 3 months now
[12:16] <Jacques_Stry> O.O
[12:17] <Kilos> but they fone every week and apologize and say they are working on it5
[12:17] <Kilos> and give her free data hahaha
[12:18] <Jacques_Stry> well at least they doing some compensation
[12:18] <Jacques_Stry> even though she can only use it when they actually fix it...
[12:19] <Kilos> ya but she has already put an 8ta sim in her bb
[12:22] <Kilos> hmm... mutton kaaiings lekker too
[12:22] <Jacques_Stry> ???
[12:23] <Kilos> rendered fat i think its called
[12:23] <Kilos> ask ThatGraemeGuy
[12:23] <Kilos> he knows how lekker it be
[12:23] <Jacques_Stry> lol I know what it is, didn't know you get it in mutton
[12:24] <Jacques_Stry> usually pork
[12:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> crackling
[12:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> rendered fat it is the liquid you get from slowly heating fats
[12:24] <Kilos> i normally make them from beef fat but ha about 3 kg mutton fat here from a good sheep
[12:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can buy a slab of pork fat and render it, then use the resulting lard instead of butter
[12:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can make them from beef fat? :-o
[12:25]  * Kilos not a pork fan
[12:25] <Kilos> yes yes thats the best
[12:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> I trimmed half a kilo of it off some very fatty oxtail the other day
[12:25]  * ThatGraemeGuy cries
[12:25] <Kilos> lol
[12:26] <Kilos> oxtail can be so lekker
[12:26] <Kilos> it also is expensive now
[12:26] <Kilos> like a gourmet cut
[12:26] <Kilos> used to be the weg gooi goed
[12:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> my mother-in-law had 4kg in the freezer so my brother-in-law and I hijacked it for potjie :-D
[12:26]  * Jacques_Stry 's liver cringes from all the tasty fat's being discussed.
[12:27] <Kilos> lol
[12:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> mooooooore fat
[12:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> somebody call tim noakes
[12:28] <Kilos> one has to do something man
[12:28] <Kilos> who wants to die healthy
[12:58] <magespawn> Kilos i would like to live as long as possible
[12:58] <Kilos> lol\
[12:58] <Kilos> methinks we dont get to decide
[12:59] <Kilos> written in the big book, otherwise you just get rebooted to try again
[13:22] <magespawn> if that is true then there is no free will
[13:22] <Kilos> lol
[14:03]  * Padroni opens his first beer for the day
[14:03] <Padroni> I have to go get some pork casings
[14:03] <Kilos> good man
[14:03] <Padroni> for making pork sausage
[14:04] <Kilos> lol
[14:04] <Padroni> gonna make sausage the weekend
[14:04] <Kilos> casings is that what derms are called
[14:04] <Padroni> Kilos: if you've tasted my pork sausage, you will never eat anything else again
[14:04] <Padroni> yes - casings / derms
[14:04] <Padroni> but the real one, not the artificial one
[14:04] <Kilos> i enjoy smoked and pickled eisbein and bacon and ham
[14:05] <Padroni> I eat pork - all of it
[14:05] <Padroni> except the head & hoofs, of course
[14:05] <Kilos> but pork chops and pork roast no ty
[14:05] <Padroni> one does remain civilized in these things
[14:05] <Kilos> lol
[14:06] <Padroni> I ended up using invoiceplane for my billing
[14:06] <Kilos> but good boerewors has pork fat in too methinks so i dont totally abstain
[14:06] <Padroni> yes, it does
[14:25] <Kilos> Padroni  what spice do you use in sausages? same as one does for boeries?
[14:26] <Kilos> we use nat classic in boeries
[14:26] <Kilos> bestest one
[14:36] <Padroni> I use a mixture of spices and fresh ingredients
[15:03] <stickyboy> Padroni: If you love something, never find out how it's made. :)
[15:03] <stickyboy> "The Sausage Principle"
[15:57] <magespawn> good evening
[15:57] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[16:00] <magespawn> how are things there Kilos?
[16:00] <Kilos> terrible
[16:00] <Kilos> im breaking things more and more
[16:00] <Kilos> and by you?
[16:04] <Kilos> should be seeing the site locally but see only this http://picpaste.com/site7-qpBDDT9g.png
[16:04] <Kilos> grrr
[16:06] <Kilos> thats the site fly built and i have done all the merge commit and other funny stuffs but still see that locally
[16:07] <Kilos> add , push , merge and commit
[16:07] <Kilos> now im stuck
[16:10] <magespawn> ahh well that is the best way to learn
[16:10] <Kilos> nono
[16:11] <Kilos> maybe the fly has to approve it or something
[16:11] <Kilos> i need to get finished with this stuff so i can be just a greeter bot again
[16:15] <magespawn> the first rule of design, you are never finished
[16:15] <Kilos> lol
[16:15] <Kilos> hows things your side magespawn  ?
[16:17] <magespawn>  okay i suppose, main adsl went down early this morning, telkom will only respond within 48 hours
[16:17] <Kilos> oh my
[16:17] <magespawn> i sometimes think i have more problems than solutions
[16:18] <Kilos> hee hee
[16:18] <Kilos> magespawn> ahh well that is the best way to learn
[16:18] <Kilos> gotcha
[16:20] <magespawn> aww snap
[16:20] <Kilos> rofl
[16:20] <Kilos> ty i needed that
[16:23] <magespawn> no worries
[16:29] <Squirm> evening
[16:38] <magespawn> hi Squirm
[16:58] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[17:10] <gremble> Good morning
[17:10] <gremble> Evening I mean
[17:14] <Kilos> haha hi gremble
[17:16] <gremble> How are you doing Kilos ?
[17:16] <Kilos> im good ty and you sir?
[17:16] <Kilos> eating pap and kaaiings
[17:17] <gremble> I am doing well thank you
[17:17] <gremble> Just tired
[17:17] <gremble> I can do with a holiday
[17:17] <Kilos> oh my
[17:23] <magespawn> gremble: that sounds really good
[17:33] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:53] <magespawn> Maaz hmm
[17:53] <Maaz> hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking
[17:53] <Kilos> haha
[17:54] <Kilos> the fly says thats what im supposed to see there magespawn
[17:55] <Kilos> and here im trying everything to make it see more
[17:59] <Kilos> oh wow trello is kinda magic
[17:59] <Kilos> you see things changing on their own
[18:00] <Kilos> hi SDCDev
[18:06] <SDCDev> hey Kilos
[18:19] <Squirm> Meh
[18:19] <Squirm> still at work
[18:19] <Squirm> :P
[18:19] <Squirm> Long day
[18:37] <Kilos> whew
[18:40] <magellanic> cheers, have a good evening all
[18:50] <magespawn> you and me both Squirm
[18:53] <captine> evening all
[18:54] <Kilos> hi captine
[18:59] <Squirm> magespawn: Yeah
[18:59] <Squirm> soon
[18:59] <Squirm> home time soon
[18:59] <Kilos> yay
[19:00] <magespawn> luckily i can also do other things while i work too
[19:01] <gremble> I think I broke my tablet :/
[19:01] <Kilos> ouch how
[19:01] <gremble> I haven't used it in a while
[19:01] <gremble> and now it isnt charging
[19:01] <Kilos> oi
[19:02] <Kilos> hopefully battery needs to get a bit of life before it shows that its charging
[19:03] <gremble> Ya. I put it on hoping it will get some oomph
[19:03]  * mazal fiddles
[19:04] <Kilos> lol
[19:04] <Squirm> chat tomorrow
[19:04] <gremble> Whoop
[19:04] <Squirm> enjoy your respective evenings
[19:04] <gremble> It is working
[19:04] <gremble> Cheers Squirm
[19:04] <Kilos> cheers Squirm
[19:04] <Kilos> all these battery things are a pain
[19:05] <mazal> Night Squirm
[19:06] <mazal> Think I must go sleep
[19:06] <mazal> I'm bored and that's dangerous :P
[19:07] <mazal> Good night everyone , sleep well, God bless
[19:07] <Kilos> lol
[19:07] <Kilos> sleep tight mazal
[19:12] <stickyboy> What are we drinking tonight?
[19:13] <Kilos> coffee
[19:15] <captine> coffee on the way
[19:15] <stickyboy> captine: Ok, I was thinking maybe hot chocolate.
[19:15] <captine> had a nesquick... now hot coffeee
[19:15] <captine> :)
[19:16] <captine> so who is going to the debian conference and is it something that is open to anyone interested?  Talking bout next year's
[19:16] <Kilos> lol
[19:18] <stickyboy> captine: I wouldn't mind going.
[19:18] <stickyboy> But I might not be in Africa next year.
[19:18] <stickyboy> Unless I quit my job and decide to spend a few years on a bus, drinking tea, and eating chapati.
[19:19] <stickyboy> Seems likely at this point though.
[19:19] <magespawn> superfly will know, and i think there is a website up
[19:21] <magespawn> Kilos have you heard of Professor Messor?
[19:21] <superfly> captine: I'm one of the organisers, so I plan on going ;-)
[19:21] <captine> thought as much...
[19:21] <Kilos> who magespawn  ?
[19:21] <captine> is it mainly for developers?
[19:22] <gremble> It is in Cpt, right?
[19:22] <superfly> captine: it's mostly for users of Debian
[19:22] <magespawn> Kilos he has a youtube channel up with training videos for a lot of the comptia certifications
[19:22] <superfly> gremble: yes, most likely at UCT
[19:22] <magespawn> he has Linux+ videos
[19:22] <Kilos> i dont tube magespawn
[19:23] <magespawn> might learn a thing or two
[19:23] <Kilos> lol
[19:24] <Kilos> magespawn  i wanna be a greeter bot
[19:24] <magespawn> most of the videos are fairly short, under 20 minutes or soo
[19:24] <Kilos> oh
[19:24] <magespawn> wasted, you are as a greeter bot
[19:25] <Kilos> maybe i can get some with night surfer data
[19:25] <magespawn> yup he breaks the topics up quite a bit
[19:25] <Kilos> so are you keeping a list of the links?
[19:26] <gremble> Nice
[19:26]  * stickyboy wants to watch a video about making pancakes.
[19:26] <gremble> I want to have SFD at UP :P
[19:26] <gremble> We have a makerspace now
[19:26] <Kilos> pancakes are easy
[19:27] <stickyboy> gremble: Makepancakespace?
[19:27] <stickyboy> Err, pancakemakerspace?
[19:27] <magespawn> was not planning on it, i downloaded most the n+, next one i am doing is linux+
[19:27] <gremble> Yup
[19:27] <gremble> We just print them
[19:28] <Kilos> ok magespawn  ill google it ty
[19:30] <Kilos> have found lots, will sort them out
[19:30] <captine> are those videos on youtube you say?
[19:31] <captine> I was thinking of joining Linuxacademy.com
[19:31] <Kilos> ya
[19:31] <captine> for some training
[19:31] <Kilos> Maaz  google Professor Messor Linux+ videos
[19:31] <Kilos> oh my
[19:32] <Kilos> Maaz  hi
[19:32] <Maaz> Howzit Kilos
[19:32] <Maaz> Kilos: "Linux Training Videos | Professor Messer - CompTIA A+, Network+ ..." http://www.professormesser.com/linux-plus/linux-training-videos/ :: "Professor Messer - YouTube" http://www.youtube.com/user/professormesser :: "Professor Messer's CompTIA Linux+ Training - YouTube" https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCDA423AB5CEC8FDB :: "Professor Messer - YouTube"
[19:32] <Maaz> https://www.youtube.com/user/professormesser/videos :: "Linux Device Drivers - CompTIA Linu…
[19:33] <magespawn> captine: yes they are, and as far as i can see free to view
[19:34] <magespawn> i am also off to bed now, good night all
[19:34] <Kilos> night magespawn  sleep tight
[19:35] <gremble> I'm compiling a 3bit added in Altera
[19:35] <gremble> :P
[19:47] <inetpro> good mornings
[19:49] <magellanic> heya
[19:59] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[20:02] <stickyboy> Kilos: How do you feel about masala chai?
[20:02] <stickyboy> Also, how do you feel about pkgsrc? NetBSD's package manager.
[20:02] <Kilos> what is that stickyboy
[20:02] <Kilos> eish
[20:02] <Kilos> i dont feel about anything i dont understand
[20:06] <inetpro> Kilos: oh boy!
[20:06] <Kilos> what now inetpro  ?
[20:07]  * inetpro checked out ubuntu-africa
[20:07] <Kilos> a mess hey?
[20:07]  * stickyboy checked out #bsd-africa
[20:07] <inetpro> mess?
[20:08] <Kilos> isnt it a mess
[20:08] <inetpro> it's a start
[20:08] <Kilos> eish
[20:08] <inetpro> you are moving forward man
[20:09] <inetpro> be happy!
[20:09] <Kilos> no man backwards
[20:11] <inetpro> ai!
[20:11] <inetpro> fix it!
[20:12] <Kilos> i cant ,
[20:12] <Kilos> fly gonna look what i did when he gets a break'
[20:13] <Kilos> it isnt broken i think, just wrong stuff in wrong places
[20:14] <Kilos> yadiw
[20:14] <Kilos> Maaz  yadiw
[20:14] <Maaz> Kilos: What?
[20:14] <Kilos> ai!
[20:14] <Kilos> Maaz  ydiw
[20:14] <Maaz> You're Doing It Wrong
[20:15] <Kilos> like putting in more petrol but the carb is missing
[20:16] <inetpro> Kilos: get some practise man, start a fresh site
[20:17] <Kilos> ai!
[20:18] <Kilos> can you see the site in your browser
[20:18] <Kilos> or just the heading and the rest black screen
[20:18] <inetpro> Kilos: you know Gary Player?
[20:19] <Kilos> not personally
[20:19] <inetpro> he said, "the harder I practice, the luckier I get"
[20:19] <Kilos> lol
[20:20] <inetpro> Kilos: I see the same thing as in your screenshot
[20:21] <Kilos> eish
[20:21] <Kilos> thats the way it must be fly says
[20:21] <Kilos> till he has worked his magic on it
[20:23] <inetpro> that's just the way it is now
[20:23] <inetpro> not the way it must be
[20:23] <Kilos> ya
[20:23] <inetpro> just fix it!
[20:24] <Kilos> ai!
[20:24] <inetpro> you should practise more
[20:24] <inetpro> break it
[20:24] <Kilos> you need to go bath and wash your ears well
[20:24] <inetpro> and then fix it
[20:24] <inetpro> :-)
[20:24] <Kilos> nono man
[20:25] <Kilos> i missing something
[20:25] <Kilos> i had it running here in browser
[20:25] <Kilos> looked same as our site with africa name etc
[20:26] <Kilos> but the site thing wasnt done yet
[20:26] <Kilos> and that is what has got me lost
[20:27] <inetpro> ai!
[20:28]  * inetpro looks at the commit logs
[20:28] <inetpro> twit, twit, twit, twit and twit
[20:28] <inetpro> w00t!!
[20:28] <Kilos> lol
[20:29] <Kilos> thats all new since the site was made and shows like the screenshot
[20:30] <Kilos> i thought i had broken something so when nothing helped i deleted and started agin
[20:30] <Kilos> and same screenshot
[20:30] <Kilos> sigh
[20:30] <Kilos> hehe
[20:30]  * inetpro shakes head in disgust
[20:31] <Kilos> lol
[20:31] <Kilos> i even dream about this bzr and nikola stuffs man
[20:31] <inetpro> you even left out the file .bzrignore
[20:32] <Kilos> ai!
[20:33] <Kilos> didnt even know there is such a file
[20:33] <inetpro> don't you look at files and folders?
[20:34] <Kilos> no i drag drop stuff
[20:34] <inetpro> you just blindfold yourself and start jumping in all directions?
[20:34] <Kilos> folders are better, they take their files with them
[20:35] <Kilos> but i followed the tutorial
[20:35] <inetpro> ai
[20:37] <Kilos> and when some oke gives me 5 links to read instead of one command that just quadriples the headache
[20:38] <inetpro> ew
[20:39] <stickyboy> wget http://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/stable/pkgsrc.txz
[20:39] <stickyboy> yesssssss
[20:40] <Kilos> oh yay does arch use wget too
[20:40] <Kilos> so there is actually something good in it]
[20:41] <stickyboy> Kilos: :D
[20:41] <Kilos> hehe
[20:41] <stickyboy> Darwin 14.1.0 MacBookPro11,1
[20:41] <stickyboy> ;)
[20:42] <Kilos> you should go for a holiday in za stickyboy
[20:43] <inetpro> Kilos: go to your projects folder and do the following:
[20:43] <inetpro> diff -qr -x "output" -x ".bzr" -x "cache" ubuntu-za/trunk/ ubuntu-africa/trunk/
[20:43] <Kilos> theres lots of macs serving as paperweights
[20:43] <Kilos> inetpro  i have to wait for fly
[20:43] <inetpro> Kilos: you have to do nothing
[20:44] <Kilos> is that only diffs
[20:45] <Kilos> diff: ubuntu-za/trunk/: No such file or directory
[20:45] <Kilos> ive deleted lots
[20:46] <inetpro> oh boy!
[20:46] <Kilos> i think i have nothing in trunk
[20:47] <inetpro> cd ~/Projects/ubuntu-za
[20:47] <Kilos> ya here is cache, output ,venv.nikola and ubuntu-africa
[20:47] <inetpro> you still have that?
[20:47] <stickyboy> I laugh a lot when I read some of the blog posts I wrote like 7 years ago in the village... https://alaninkenya.org/2008/11/11/i-need-something-new-to-watch
[20:48] <Kilos> inetpro  ^^ thats what shows in Projects
[20:48] <inetpro> Kilos: bzr co lp:ubuntu-za trunk
[20:49] <inetpro> you can always fetch it again like that ^^
[20:49] <superfly> inetpro: en nou? what are you fetching?
[20:49] <inetpro> superfly: he deleted his ubuntu-za site
[20:49] <superfly> inetpro: ah
[20:50] <Kilos> bash: cd: ubuntu-za: No such file or directory
[20:50] <inetpro> he likes breaking things
[20:50] <inetpro> uh
[20:50] <Kilos> i didnt want them interfering with each other
[20:51] <inetpro> that sounds like flawed logic
[20:51] <Kilos> in Projects  is cache, output ,venv.nikola and ubuntu-africa
[20:51] <inetpro> cd ~/Projects
[20:51] <Kilos> ubuntu-za must wait till africa is fixed and running
[20:52] <inetpro> bzr init-repo ubuntu-za
[20:52] <inetpro> cd ubuntu-za
[20:52] <inetpro> bzr co lp:ubuntu-za trunk
[20:52] <inetpro> ok, leave it
[20:52]  * inetpro needs some sleep
[20:52] <Kilos> lol
[20:52] <Kilos> sleep tight old man
[20:53] <Kilos> tired old man
[20:53] <inetpro> yikes!
[20:53] <Kilos> what now
[20:54]  * inetpro was just trying to help
[20:55] <Kilos> ty for your help my friend but as you say one step at a trimes
[20:55] <Kilos> time too
[20:55] <Kilos> dont yikes me
[20:55] <inetpro> haha :-)
[20:55] <Kilos> hehe
[20:55] <Kilos> ive made he za thing again but it must wait
[20:56] <Kilos> too much is too much
[20:56] <inetpro> blah, blah, blah
[20:56] <Kilos> lol
[20:57] <Kilos> you so cheeky
[20:57] <inetpro> you'll start believing yourself if you say those things
[20:57] <Kilos> you said 50 times or more one step at a time
[20:58] <inetpro> ok, good night
[20:58] <Kilos> sleep tight goosie
[20:59] <stickyboy> Kilos: I'm still here.
[20:59] <stickyboy> FML.
[20:59] <Kilos> yes
[21:00] <Kilos> Maaz  define FML
[21:00] <Maaz> Kilos: I don't know about FML.


[12:33] <goodspud> Morning almost all. I came across an error in the demo where the pie graph wasn't accurately reflecting the health of it's units. Unfortunately I don't seem to be able to replicate but thought I'd draw it to your attention
[12:34] <goodspud> Only once I refreshed the page did it update properly
[13:13] <gary_poster> goodspud, thanks.  If you felt like it, you could file a bug.  We'd mark it "incomplete" for now, which would give us a month or so to see if it repeats and if we get an idea on how to dupe.  After a month with no change the bug would automatically move to "Invalid" (though we could undo that in the future).  Does that sound like an OK way to track the issue?
[13:25] <goodspud> gary_poster: that's fine. I'll have a few more stabs at seeing if I can repeat it so I can get screen shots, but I'll file a bug regardless
[13:25] <gary_poster> cool thanks goodspud
[13:45] <gary_poster> hazmat, I replied to your needs fixing review of https://codereview.appspot.com/7069068/ with a counter, so it's your move next.
[14:07] <goodspud> gary_poster, we'd like to have a quick run through of our "rough" wireframes with you all as part of this afternoon's meeting. Is that OK?
[14:08] <goodspud> Basically an explanation of where we are heading so you can sit back after and take some time to think before giving feedback.
[14:09] <gary_poster> goodspud, how much time would you like?
[14:09] <goodspud> gary_poster, I think we can get through in 15-20 mins
[14:11] <gary_poster> goodspud, ok.  we currently don't have any weekly review discussion cardsso that should probably fit fine.  Normally I'd suggest having a separate call, but in this situation I think it's fine
[14:14] <goodspud> gary_poster, awesome. I'll probably (definitely) want to have a more in-depth discussion with interested parties Monday next week but we want to give you some stuff to look at/think about
[14:14] <gary_poster> sounds good goodspud
[14:27] <teknico> gary_poster, I'm working on the "documenting the GUI charm" card
[14:27] <teknico> IIRC, in the meetings you mentioned it only needed revising the README doc
[14:27] <teknico> I did that and revised the HACKING doc too
[14:27] <teknico> however, the card description lists a few more steps, care to comment?
[14:27] <gary_poster> teknico, looking
[14:30] <gary_poster> teknico, right, the card has good stuff too.  Of those three items, the last one seems to be covered in the README information, yeah?  So we need to update the juju docs, and then make the LP link.  Feel free to do that as part of this card, or separate out what you have done into one card, with the other tasks in another card
[14:31] <gary_poster> teknico, doc branch is https://code.launchpad.net/~charmers/juju/docs
[14:31] <gary_poster> (lp:juju/docs)
[14:32] <teknico> gary_poster, changing that branch is the way to update the wiki?
[14:34] <gary_poster> teknico, and I would make "The Juju Web UI" on this page https://juju.ubuntu.com/resources/ link to a new document that had a link to the demo and a link to the charm store, which has deployment information displayed already (http://jujucharms.com/~juju-gui/precise/juju-gui)
[14:34] <gary_poster> teknico, yes, the "wiki" :-)
[14:35] <teknico> gary_poster, ok, will do
[14:35] <gary_poster> teknico, maybe jcastro would want to have an opinion on this?  not sure
[14:35] <teknico> gary_poster, he seems to be away right now
[14:36] <gary_poster> ok teknico (though I personally never rely on IRC statuses for that :-) )
[14:37] <teknico> gary_poster, uhm, yeah, they're not always reliable
[14:40] <teknico> gary_poster, can you also please clarify "Make LP page links from Juju GUI to deployment instructions."?
[14:42] <gary_poster> teknico, the top of https://launchpad.net/juju-gui should give a link to information about the project which includes deployment.  I'm inclined for that to be the page you make on juju.ubuntu.com, so we only have one page that we have to keep up to date for the "introduction" role
[14:42] <gary_poster> teknico, do you have permission on https://launchpad.net/juju-gui/+edit ?
[14:42] <gary_poster> If so, you would change the "Description"
[14:43] <teknico> gary_poster, I see a form with a "Change" button, so I assume I do
[14:43] <gary_poster> teknico, yup :-)
[14:44] <goodspud> Makyo, came across another situation where the canvas/relation rendering is a bit iffy
[14:44] <goodspud> https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/file/d/0B1IM--9A1RkTdzdBbVVxR0owTjQ/edit
[14:44] <goodspud> Similar to bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-gui/+bug/1092208
[14:44] <_mup_> Bug #1092208: Pending relation line is not getting events <juju-gui:Incomplete> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1092208 >
[14:46] <goodspud> _mup_, cheers. In this case there was no pending relation, in fact I hadn't made any changes to the environment but returned to the tab it was running in and this is what I was presented with
[14:47] <teknico> gary_poster, I updated the card description with my understanding of your explanations
[14:47] <teknico> do you want me to ping jcastro and ask him his opinion on that list?
[14:48] <Makyo> goodspud, thanks.no clue what would've caused that.
[14:50] <goodspud> Makyo, yeah. I hadn't "touched" the environment for about 30 mins but when I went back to the browser tab the Wordpress service was rendered in such a way. I moved the service but the line didn't go with.
[14:50] <Makyo> goodspud, In staging?
[14:50] <goodspud> Makyo, I'm going to guess and say yes.... our "demo" site
[14:51] <goodspud> (is that "staging"?)
[14:51] <Makyo> goodspud, I mean, somewhere where someone else could've touched it?  It looks like more units were added to wordpress and something broke (that would be the scaled service health-graph, but the non-scaled everything else).
[14:52] <goodspud> Makyo, yes, someone else could have been using it
[14:52] <goodspud> Makyo, is this a new bug or have we already recorded it? Happy to raise one if not
[14:52] <Makyo> goodspud, Alright.  Will play around.
[14:53] <Makyo> goodspud, Go ahead and make a new one.  Can always mark a duplicate.
[14:53] <goodspud> Makyo, cool. Will do.
[14:53] <teknico> gary_poster, I'll take that as a "yes", doing it :-)
[14:54] <gary_poster> teknico, oh sorry
[14:54] <bac> gary_poster: i started an investigation of the user/pass card (it is very easy) before noticing the lane is full.  exceed the wip limit or put it on back burner?
[14:54] <gary_poster> yeah, +1 teknico, though I hope it doesn't slow you down
[14:54] <teknico> gary_poster, he just showed up :-)
[14:54] <gary_poster> cool teknico
[14:55] <gary_poster> bac lemme see
[14:56] <gary_poster> hazmat, your "needs fixing" is blocking bug 1090716, and thus the WIP.  Did you get a chance to consider my reply?
[14:56] <_mup_> Bug #1090716: GUI should hide GUI charm <juju-gui:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1090716 >
[15:02] <gary_poster> bac, back burner
[15:06] <bac> gary_poster: rt.  i'm grabbing one of the test cards from below
[15:06] <gary_poster> thanks bac
[15:28] <gary_poster> bac bcsaller frankban goodspud hazmat Makyo teknico call in 2.  arosales I'll ping when we start the weekly review part of the call, and give you a link in privmsg
[15:30] <gary_poster> bcsaller do you agree that we do not need https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-gui/+bug/1096270 now?
[15:30] <_mup_> Bug #1096270: propagate delta stream annotation changes as events <juju-gui:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1096270 >
[15:31] <bcsaller> gary_poster: sounds like it went a different direction
[15:38] <bac> gary_poster: lane changes like this may need to be coordinated with lp2kanban.  need to keep an eye out to see if things still transition as expected.
[15:39] <gary_poster> bac ah good point
[16:05] <bac> a-ha, not ok go.
[16:40] <gary_poster> bac, yes, thanks for correction on a-ha :-)
[16:50] <teknico> gary_poster, proposed https://codereview.appspot.com/7103043
[16:50] <teknico> also, edited the LP juju-gui homepage: https://launchpad.net/juju-gui
[16:50] <teknico> how about we make the Resources page link to the LP homepage?
[17:09] <gary_poster> teknico, -1 on Resources page linking to LP homepage: juju.ubuntu.com is a marketing site
[17:10] <gary_poster> LP page is not good marketing, and is not designed to be
[17:12] <teknico> gary_poster, then we need a landing page on the newer/fancier/wordpress-based juju.ubuntu.com site, I guess
[17:12] <gary_poster> Right teknico.  Is that not the juju doc thing?
[17:12] <gary_poster> branch?
[17:13] <teknico> gary_poster, nope, that branch hangs from juju.ubuntu.com/docs now, the rest of the site is new and improved :-)
[17:13] <gary_poster> oh ok teknico
[17:14] <gary_poster> then I don't know how to add it, but yes, I think we should have a landing page in the "pretty" part of the site
[17:15] <gary_poster> teknico approved
[17:16] <teknico> gary_poster, thanks
[17:16] <gary_poster> welcome, thank you
[17:16] <teknico> gary_poster, jcastro said he could make me editor of the wordpress site, I'll ask him
[17:17] <gary_poster> excellent teknico
[17:22] <gary_poster> frankban, approved your branch with some changes
[17:23] <gary_poster> teknico, frankban if you review each other's branch then you can maybe land them before your EoD/EoW :-)
[17:24] <teknico> gary_poster, good idea :-)
[17:24] <frankban> cool gary_poster: thank you! teknico, I will review your MP
[18:00] <teknico> have a nice weekend everyone, tty on monday, bye!
[18:00] <gary_poster> you two teknico
[18:00] <gary_poster> too, even :-P
[18:00] <teknico> :-)
[18:19] <bac> Makyo: your relation line fix works great!
[18:37] <Makyo> \o/


[01:16] <lkthomas> folks
[01:16] <lkthomas> I got a service which stuck at start and stop
[01:16] <lkthomas> how could I start debug it ?
[01:59] <chras> stuck?
[17:50] <samueltc> hi!
[17:51] <samueltc> Where do upstart store pid?
[17:55] <samueltc> also can I specify a pidfile instead of letting upstart guess it?
[17:55] <samueltc> except fork/daemon are not working properly
[18:24] <samueltc> upstart thinks a process is running, but it's clearly not...


[20:36] <c7p> hey godbyk
[20:41] <godbyk> hey, c7p.
[20:41] <c7p> how are you ?
[20:41] <godbyk> not too bad.  how are you?
[20:41] <c7p> i'm fine
[20:42] <c7p> i've just installed tex live and im facing a problem when i try to build tha manual
[20:42] <c7p> ! LaTeX Error: File `realscripts.sty' not found.
[20:43] <godbyk> Hmm.. let me figure out what's using that file.
[20:44] <godbyk> Ah.. it's used by xltxtra.
[20:44] <godbyk> you should be able to install it with: sudo tlmgr install realscripts
[20:47] <c7p> ok now everything is running smooth :D
[20:47] <c7p> appart from my error in credits :P
[20:48] <c7p> just to let you know i also installed makecmds and environ, as they were missing
[20:50] <godbyk> 'kay.
[20:50] <godbyk> usually I just have it install everything at the beginning. saves me having to chase down individual packages later. :)
[20:52] <c7p> :D


[03:42] <kamilnadeem> Hi Everyone.
[03:42] <kamilnadeem> I have created a new Blog about Linux and FOSS: http://mknadeem.blogspot.com/ . Please check it and share if you find it interesting or informative.
[03:42] <kamilnadeem> Also The First post introduces non FOSS people to our very own +Ubuntu .
[15:27] <kabbo> Anyone here?
[15:29] <kabbo> Ekushey shani Tanvir anyone listening??
[15:40] <kabbo> I'd better come again later! :s


 FJGV
 FJ9V
 Tnx (re @Kevin_thomas: Well, KDE Neon and it's editions is based on a Ubuntu LTS release (22.04) with the latest KDE system/programs in contrast to Kubuntu which uses a more stable KDE system/programs, not at most times the latest.)
 When I close the lid of my laptop for an extended period of time, does Kubuntu save the current system state to the storage?
 When I open the lid of my laptop after it has been closed for a long time, I notice some flickering on the screen.
[11:00] <OnkelTem> Hi folks. When I switch desktops or other animation happens my Xorg hangd
[11:00] <OnkelTem> hangs
[11:00] <OnkelTem> I have to restart it a few times a day, like once per hour which really annoying
[11:01] <OnkelTem> I'm on 22.04 with the latest updates. It has been happenning for 2 months approximately
[11:01] <OnkelTem> Any ideas how to stop this nightmare?
[11:02] <OnkelTem> I was thinking about disabling compositor but not sure if it's possible
[11:24] <diogenes_Vx15> OnkelTem, yep that's a good idea, start with disabling animations and changing the compositor backend.
[12:32] <CoJaBo> I'm upgrading to Kubuntu 22.04 LTS; does scaling in KRDC not work anymore, and is there a way to fix this?
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:55] <ice9> I paired my phone with kdeconnect and enabled plugins but I can't see my phone's storage in nautilus, how do I access it?
[12:58] <Elliria> I think you have to use SFTP: https://userbase.kde.org/KDEConnect
[13:03] <ice9> oh when I click on browse files in the kdeconnect tray icon, it opens vscode not nautilus
 Telegram crash when i add 2 accounts and switch one account to other account in kubuntu LTS 22.4.2 version. And this problem also i found in ubuntu
 Telegram crash when i add 2 accounts and switch one account to other account in kubuntu LTS 22.04.2 version. And this problem also i found in ubuntu
[13:06] <Elliria> I've never used KDEConnect, but it probably has some settings in it that you can change.
[13:38] <BluesKaj> kdeconnect is somewhat buggy...bluetooth is slower but it works, mostly
[14:54] <yahiyah> hi
[16:30] <user|15> update 18.10 to newer version - possible or not?
[16:32] <tomreyn> theoretically, yes. practically, you really, really want a fresh installation
[16:32] <tomreyn> 18.10 hasn't been supported for years
[16:34] <user|15> ok, tanks.
 Elisa Music Player seems to be crashing on Kubuntu 23.04 beta, is it happening with anyone?
 https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/23.04/beta/
[17:07] <mparillo> I can test Elisa Music Player on a live USB. Does it have a default music stream or something like that for input?
 It simply crashes after opening it, you can't do anything on it, at least here. (re @IrcsomeBot: <mparillo> I can test Elisa Music Player on a live USB. Does it have a default music stream or something like that for input?)
[23:16] <jan_> warum gibt es amarok nicht mehr auf kubuntu?
[23:18] <jan_> why there is no more amarok on kubuntu?


[15:20] <cjohnston> blah
[15:20] <mhall119> bango
[15:20] <cjohnston> was my response too mean?
[15:20] <mhall119> he can take it
[15:21] <mhall119> I mean, if you're going to make fun of all of Alabama, you gotta accept taking a hit for a misspelling
[15:21] <cjohnston> I'm sorry, but if your making fun of a state and trying to imply that they aren't smart, and you misspell banjo..


[05:17] <Guest29286> hello
[05:17] <Guest29286> anyone here ?
[05:18] <Guest29286> i had a question about the root commands
[05:20] <holstein> !ask | Guest29286
[05:20] <holstein> !root
[05:22] <Guest29286> sorry...brb dog on me and got my glasses dirty
[05:22] <Guest29286> she got both lens
[05:23] <Asharas> Hi!
[05:23] <holstein> sure.. someone will be here, im sure
[05:23] <holstein> Asharas: o/
[05:24] <Guest29286> back...sorry about that
[05:25] <Guest29286> the provblem i am having is that when i try and go into root it says i dont have the perm but when i look up my account it does say i am the admin
[05:26] <holstein> !root | Guest29286
[05:26] <holstein> Guest29286: there is no traditional root account
[05:27] <bodhi_zazen> well, the root account exists, it is just locked
[05:27] <holstein> Guest29286: if you want a root terminal, you can use "sudo -i" or read up on sudo
[05:27] <Guest29286> i guess that ihave been away from linux
[05:27] <holstein> !sudo
[05:27] <holstein> you can undo the lock, but i would leave it as-is
[05:28] <Guest29286> okay
[05:28] <Guest29286> thats alot for the help ...yes red hat is what i used in the 90'S
[05:38] <Asharas> Hey, I have a little question
[05:39] <Asharas> I installed xfce and its dependencies on my server, just to give a try to X forwarding
[05:40] <Asharas> now I'm trying to uninstalling it but many packages remain with xorg or xfce in their name
[05:40] <Asharas> could someone help me?
[05:40] <Unit193> So remove them as well if you wish?
[05:41] <Asharas> one by one? is there any other way?
[05:41] <Asharas> !dpkg
[05:41] <Unit193> sudo apt-get purge xfce* xorg* may remove too much, though.
[05:41] <Asharas> I thought the help text was longer :p
[05:42] <Unit193> !apt
[05:42] <Asharas> yeah, would be dangerous
[05:42] <Unit193> It'd ask you first at least.
[05:43] <Asharas> I think I'll prefer the manual way, I still don't have any backup configured
[05:43] <Asharas> !rc
[05:43] <Asharas> ah, nothing
[05:45] <Asharas> hum
[05:45] <Asharas> I was reading my dpkg -l
[05:45] <Unit193> dpkg -l | grep -e xfce -e xorg
[05:45] <Asharas> many packages are noted rc
[05:46] <Asharas> I'm thinking about a command to purge all packages in this state
[05:47] <Asharas> where the fuck are my lessons? *opening all books on desk*
[05:47] <Unit193> sudo dpkg --purge $(COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l|grep ^rc|awk '{print $2}')
[05:47] <Unit193> Asharas: Please keep it family friendly.
[05:47] <Asharas> sry
[05:48] <Unit193> But, that'll do it.
[05:48] <Asharas> first I'm trying to decode it :p
[05:48] <Asharas> but thx!
[05:48] <Unit193> Sure.
[05:49] <Asharas> $ means it's an environment variable, isn't it?
[05:50] <Unit193> $(run this first) ${var}   excpet for the awk statement.
[05:50] <Asharas> oh ^
[05:50] <Unit193> Output of that is text, just like echo `whoami`
[05:50] <Unit193> (Which is pointless)
[05:50] <Asharas> hum, awk? let me RTFM (can I use RTFM here?)
[05:51] <Unit193> pattern scanning and processing language
[05:52] <Unit193> echo bob bobertson | awk '{print $2}'
[05:53] <Asharas> awk '{print $2}' prints second column, understood
[05:53] <Asharas> hum, and why the COLUMNS=200?
[05:54] <Unit193> As an example, look at COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l   vs   COLUMNS=600 dpkg -l
[05:54] <Unit193> (You want to override what the shell tells it, so it doesn't cut off a name.)
[05:55] <Asharas> doesn't change anything for me :-/
[05:55] <Asharas> I'm using putty btw
[05:55]  * Unit193 blames PuTTY, just because he can. :P
[05:55] <Asharas> :-D
[05:56] <Unit193> holstein: You still around?  I may croak here soon.
[05:56] <Asharas> too noob on linux to use only this OS
[05:56] <Asharas> and too much gamer
[05:56] <Unit193> Steam works on it now too.  But, got you all fixed up?
[05:57] <Asharas> brb, rebooting the server
[05:57] <Asharas> steam yeah, but not all my games
[05:57] <Asharas> I have 199 games on steam >_<
[05:58] <Unit193> Alrighty, I may not be here (even if my nick is.)
[05:58] <Asharas> rebooting the server, lauching your command and hoping you didn't made any mistake :-p
[05:58] <Asharas> okay, see ya
[05:58] <Asharas> and thx for the help
[05:58] <Unit193> Sure.
[06:14] <asharas> hi again
[16:25] <ScottyK> Greetings! My cat sat down on my laptop, and in the process somehow logged the computer out, and now it's at a command line prompt wanting to log in. How do I get the GUI back without rebooting? thanks!
[21:37] <iodaddio> can someone help me with setting up proxy...I don't think I am understanding the terminology.  I am using ubuntu desktop 12, squid 3 with http/https transparent, and dansguardian.  So my confusion is with who is the parent of who.  If squid is transparent, it doesn't seem to make sense to NAT to dansguardian especially since I want squid to mitm the http/https connections...  How does this relationship work...parents, et
[21:38] <iodaddio> I guess that is technically proxies.  I want to add havp and privoxy eventually too :/
[21:40] <iodaddio> I think I want client->transparent squid mitm http/s->dansguardian->privoxy->havp->internet
[21:42] <iodaddio> typo: make that ubuntu 13.04
[21:43] <iodaddio> is there a good reading resource?  Everything I find is from like 2008 and many of the directives no longer work :(
[21:44] <Unit193> Well, I've not done a ton of work with proxies, just some polipo, but you may want to look in #ubuntu-server or https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/
[21:50] <iodaddio> I feel fairly comfortable in Ubuntu Desktop, but server scares me.  Not having a gui for anything....no thanks.  I am just concerned dad who just went through first kid google image search of boobs.  Just trying to make things a little safer for the little ones.
[21:50] <iodaddio> found these projects could help...I have no idea how they work or how they work together....yet
[21:52] <Unit193> Oh sure, was just thinking the channel should know pretty well since what you want is server related, even if you install on a desktop.  Otherwise, I think the community  edition "Ubuntu Christian Edition" uses dansguardian, you could maybe look at that and see how they pull it together.
[21:56] <iodaddio> I am running this local...no server involved
[21:57] <iodaddio> LOL
[21:59] <iodaddio> guess I could run a server in a local VM that starts at boot....


[18:24] <leoquant> leoquant
[18:30] <cjohnston> I'm trying to teach my two year old to say his name too... ;-)
[18:44] <mhall119|work> lol
[20:47] <nikbes> exit