 @KMyers @Ivoriesablaze it knows I hate windows
 Scary
 Day 3 complete!
 https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2019/03/05/comcast-security-nightmare-default-0000-pin-on-everybodys-account/
 Another reason to hate Comcast
 https://www.reddit.com/r/S10wallpapers?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
 @RazPi, What of?
 Diablo 1 is now on GOG. … https://www.gog.com/game/diablo
 @Abrerr, Online courses!
 @SivaMachina, Awesome
 If y'all aren't already acquainted.. I leave you https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0QrZvg7QIgptOuNWY9u45bnDtKWYs1Qr
 How many people are a go for disney world may 3rd through the 5th?
 I am down
 Can anyone suggest a good tablet for studying from?
 The Coursera app is better than the site I realize
 Galaxy Tab S4
 I have the asus zenpad 10, really nice tablet. I think they are less than 300 now
 The tab s4 is like buying a new laptop xD
 I just need it for studying
 Tab S3
 I am still available.
 @RazPi
 Hey
 @Ivoriesablaze
 what's the verdict on the disney trip i mentioned above?
 I think it's a go is there a cost prediction
 don't worry about cost
 it's essentially whatever you can pitch in
 Ok it's a go then 👀🧳


[00:42] <xubuntu33w> nvidia/help
[00:43] <xubuntu33w> nvidiasupport/help
[00:50] <xubuntu33w> nvidia/irc
[00:52] <BurningInPHX> nvidia/join
[00:54] <BurningInPHX> irc/help
[00:54] <BurningInPHX> irc/join
[00:54] <BurningInPHX> i am new please help
[01:12] <wasq> Hi. I am unable to automatically execute a script at startup for some reason. The script works fine and I've added it to 'application autostart' in 'session and startup' but it doesn't execute at startup for some reason. Can someone help? The path is fine. (ubuntu 14.04)
[01:29] <CHVNX> Do you want the script to start at startup, login, or desktop login?
[01:29] <CHVNX> pastebin the script
[01:29] <CHVNX> and then show me the exec command you use in the startup
[01:29] <CHVNX> Also, how are you starting up?
[03:02] <glitchd> anyone know the command to get the monitor chooser windows to popup?
[03:03] <netcatjones> Super+P ?
[03:03] <glitchd> wow.
[03:04] <glitchd> that was fricken awesome.
[03:04] <glitchd> ive been searching and searching to figure out how to bring that menu up without having to unplug and replug my hdmi cord
[03:04] <glitchd> do you by chance know the command that is issued to make it popup?
[03:05] <netcatjones> xfce4-display-settings --minimal
[03:06] <glitchd> again. flippin amazing.
[03:06] <glitchd> thank you very much netcatjones
[03:07] <glitchd> thank you indeed
[03:07] <netcatjones> no problem glad to help
[03:31] <glitchd> netcatjones, have a good one, im out.
[04:00] <antechinus55> hi, new here. I have an install of ubuntu server 16.04 with the xubuntu desktop packages installed subsequently. I have some experience with xubuntu desktop and some (old) experience with ubuntu server.
[04:02] <antechinus55> my issue is with the software app in xubuntu. It does not seem to have installed properly. I cannot search for apps. it simply hangs. How do I uninstall it at the command line and reinstall it? (I can't find the pagages name by searching google)
[04:02] <antechinus55> Assume I have some experience with apt-get
[07:12] <reynold> Hi
[07:13] <reynold> is the xubuntu 15-> upgrade ready yet?
[07:44] <knome> reynold, 15.what?
[07:46] <reynold> the upgrade
[07:46] <reynold> I mean 15.10
[07:46] <knome> well, 15.10 is EOL already, so you should have updgraded already
[07:47] <reynold> knome: I couldn't obtain the upgrade
[07:47] <reynold> it always says that there is no upgrade
[07:47] <reynold> a quick google 3 months ago told me that the upgrade is not ready
[07:47] <reynold> and I have to wait till july on someting
[07:47] <reynold> *something
[07:49] <reynold> knome: any suggestions?
[07:49] <knome> so just to be clear, are you running 15.04 or 15.10?
[07:51] <reynold> knome: 15.10 according to lsb_release -a
[07:51] <reynold> wily
[07:52] <knome> and what does 'sudo do-release-upgrade
[07:52] <knome> say?
[07:52] <knome> (minus the ')
[07:53] <reynold> no new release found
[07:53] <reynold> knome: how long has the upgrade been out?
[07:54] <knome> from april
[07:54] <reynold> any suggestions on what should I do now?
[07:55] <reynold> knome: this is a almost-fresh installed machine. I did a clean install back in January and only used it a few times since. Nothing heavy, just some web dev and browsing etc.
[07:58] <knome> reynold, on software & updates (on the settings manager), what does the update tab say for 'notify me of a new ubuntu version' ?
[07:58] <reynold> knome: for lts versions
[07:59] <knome> set that to normal, then try upgrading again
[08:07] <reynold> knome: its working!
[08:07] <reynold> what do you think is the source of the problem?
[08:07] <knome> i've no idea. but i guess that option shouldn't be lts unless you are on one
[08:09] <reynold> knome: I see, so can I set it back to lts after the upgrade? Also, what do you recommend in the way of graphic drivers....I am on the radeon series which no longer has support as of this year...
[08:10] <knome> i think it might even set itself back to lts after the upgrade, but yes, you can set it to lts if not.
[08:11] <knome> for graphics drivers, i don't know
[08:11] <reynold> knome: thanks for all your help for this, would buy you a coffee if I could :D
[08:12] <knome> no problem, enjoy
[09:05] <nindustries> Hi, any idea why my font is off? http://imgur.com/a/gqjMd
[09:13] <knome> looks like you have anti-aliasing disabled
[09:13] <knome> or use a non-mono font in a terminal
[09:22] <nindustries> Yeah, Source Code Pro
[11:01] <PhoenixSTF> hey guys, Have the icons bug on 16.04 but, also have like a panel resfresh everytime a tray icon changes
[11:20] <PhoenixSTF> like if the clock changes one minute the hole panel bounces
[12:09] <choki> srsly, this realease 16.04 has that many bugs
[12:09] <choki> i would never call it LTS :/
[12:09] <choki> the one is more annoying than the other
[12:09] <choki> thunar is crashing like 5 times a day :D
[16:04] <xubuntu16w> Hello all
[19:04] <xubuntu68w> I am using live cd presently. I downloaded as offered. When I took out live cd it just buffered the xubuntu homepage.
[19:36] <Al3xG0> hi xubuntu 14 is xfce4 desktop interface w
[19:36] <Al3xG0> hi xubuntu 14 is xfce4 desktop interface?
[19:39] <knome> Al3xG0, there is no "xubuntu 14", but all xubuntu versions use xfce.
[20:11] <xubuntu41i> anybody here?  anything going on?
[20:13] <xubuntu41i> i guess chat isn't what it used to be.  bye.
[20:13] <Pici> well, this is a place for support.
[20:13] <Pici> !offtopic
[20:13] <Pici> bye
[20:14]  * genii gives Pici a doughnut for trying
[20:21] <choki> genii: hello
[20:24] <stephan1> how do i change my mouse scroll speed in xubuntu 16.04 ?
[22:41] <G4b1t> Hi everyone. Upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04 I seem to have lost my xChat app. There isn't anymore on ubuntu repo's and launchpad states that it's dead. What is the official alternative an IRC client for Xubuntu?
[22:43] <bekks> G4b1t: xchat is discontinued, and hexchat is a fork of it.
[22:44] <G4b1t> @bekks you are the man. Thanks for the valuable info.
[22:44]  * G4b1t to the searchmobile !
[23:04] <extinct_potato> i can't believe that thunar change filename crash bug hasn't been fixed yet
[23:05] <extinct_potato> it's really embarrasing that modern file manager can't even do such simple operation without crashing
[23:07] <extinct_potato> and the most funny thing about it is that the bug is one year old
[23:07] <extinct_potato> seriously
[23:07] <extinct_potato> one freakin year
[23:10] <extinct_potato> the best thing is that nobody is probably ever going to do anythinh
[23:23] <G4b1t> I just renamed a file 44 times -no crash. Before that it crashed on the 2nd renaming. The difference is that after renaming the file I clicked on empty space (deselecting file) and then select and rename. What can I say.
[23:24] <G4b1t> Is it so random?
[23:31] <Unit193> extinct_potato: You volunteering?  Have you seen the upstream bugzilla report, and any progress it has made?
[23:31] <Unit193> G4b1t: Used the possibly fixed version?
[23:39] <G4b1t> @Unit193 If it's sent via updates yes, else no
[23:39] <Unit193> G4b1t: So it seemed to fix it for some, but not entirely so wasn't SRU'd yet.  Worth a shot, IMO.
[23:41] <G4b1t> Will try it. To be honest it's a perfect opportunity to learn myself how to debug my system :p


[01:32] <bazhang> looks like Ubuxubu is going to be his usual helpful self
[02:05] <bazhang> heh nice retort
[02:05] <pangolin> :)
[02:08] <bazhang> * Tasmania is now known as USA
[02:46] <elky> really now
[05:43] <shpeka> set me a K-line please
[05:46] <tsimpson> shpeka: I don't believe staff do requests, but this wouldn't be the place to ask anyway
[05:47] <shpeka> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgXJbJeRxHo
[07:41] <Tm_T> hi cdm10, how can we help you?
[07:56] <jussi> err, what is twobottux...
[09:42] <applebloom> ubuntu 10.10 is the one without unity right?
[09:43] <Tm_T> applebloom: perhaps, but it's also a release that isn't supported anymore, why asking?
[09:43] <applebloom> for one i hate unity :/
[09:43] <Myrtti> use Xubuntu then.
[09:43] <applebloom> what's that?
[09:43] <jussi> or KDE
[09:44] <applebloom> naw don't like kde either
[09:44] <MrChrisDruif> applebloom; 10.04 is still supported and you could try different flavors or make your own install with something you DO like
[09:44] <applebloom> i like gnome 2 the way it used to be
[09:44] <MrChrisDruif> Or Lubuntu
[09:44] <Unit193> Or build from mini.
[09:44] <MrChrisDruif> Unit193; that's what I said
[09:44] <applebloom> 10.04 is supported but not 10.10?
[09:44] <Myrtti> applebloom: too bad Gnome 2 is dead. Anything else you need help with?
[09:45] <applebloom> gnome 3 is just awful
[09:45] <Myrtti> applebloom: 10.04 is LTS, it's supported for one more year.
[09:45] <Myrtti> applebloom: you do know what channel you're on?
[09:45] <applebloom> yes yes, but it doesn't mean i have to like gnome 3 does it?
[09:45] <applebloom> because i don't
[09:47] <Myrtti> this is the Ubuntu Ops channel
[09:47] <Myrtti> not #ubuntu. You're banned from there
[09:47] <Myrtti> do you know why?
[09:47] <applebloom> not really
[09:47] <applebloom> i'm at a college though
[09:47] <applebloom> probably one of the other kids banned the ip
[09:47] <Myrtti> because #ubuntu isn't for rants
[09:48] <applebloom> this is where it sent me :/
[09:48] <applebloom> anyway, okay i'm downloading 10.04
[09:48] <applebloom> but it's 10.04.X Desktop
[09:48] <applebloom> does that matter?
[09:48] <applebloom> X = xserver?
[09:52] <applebloom> :/
[09:52] <applebloom> Myrtti, well can you unban me in the other channel?
[09:52] <Myrtti> no.
[09:52] <applebloom> um why?
[09:52] <Myrtti> because I don't see the benefit
[09:52] <applebloom> for you?
[09:53] <applebloom> i don't know what you mean by that Myrtti
[09:53] <Myrtti> would you explain what exactly would you ask or do in #ubuntu?
[09:53] <applebloom> i'm going to try to get 10.04 running and my nvidia graphics drivers installed that i've been trying to do for the past 5 hours now if you don't mind
[09:54] <applebloom> actually going on 6 hours now
[09:54] <applebloom> probably some post installation questions too
[09:56] <applebloom> Myrtti, are you there?
[09:59] <applebloom> i'll be back if 10.4 works
[10:10] <applebloom> Myrtti, are you at the keys?
[10:10] <applebloom> i have some problems already
[10:10] <applebloom> anybody?
[10:23] <Myrtti> hm.
[10:24] <Myrtti> the ban is removed, but anything questionable and you're back in square one.
[10:26] <LjL> Ben64 is on a line
[10:28] <LjL> Ben64: i think i can speak for everyone here when i say we're sick and tired of the same story each release, where people like you will insist *in the wrong channel* about the release being out when it's not been announced. of COURSE, it's going to be released today, so they're preparing the release and setting up the servers. duh. that's obvious, isn't it? yet it's out when it's announced, not before
[10:28] <Ben64> but it literally is out and downloadable and installable now
[10:29] <Tm_T> Ben64: this is not up to debate, it's released _when_ release announcement is made, not before
[10:29] <Ben64> all the links to the beta go to the final release
[10:29] <Myrtti> and there might be last minute changes to the image that will be rsynced into it
[10:29] <LjL> Ben64: which part of "preparing the release and setting up the servers"...?
[10:29] <Myrtti> and you announcing it's out when it's not
[10:29] <LjL> Ben64: maybe it's out for YOU
[10:29] <LjL> Ben64: go ahead, download it, use it
[10:29] <Myrtti> makes the servers just that much more under strain.
[10:30] <LjL> Ben64: but stop feeling the #ubuntu channel with non-support cruft
[10:30] <LjL> filling, even
[10:30] <Ben64> everyone keeps asking about it so i tell them the truth
[10:30] <pangolin> but you aren't
[10:30] <LjL> Ben64: redirect them to #ubuntu-release-party or #ubuntu+1 as appropriate
[10:30] <elky> It's not the truth. Respins can happen and have happened.
[10:30] <Ben64> it doesn't say beta, the beta doesn't exist anymore
[10:31] <pangolin> in 5 minutes the release manager can decide they need another month before releasing
[10:31] <elky> That doesn't mean it's the final release. That means it's a spin they thought might be, but nobody is sure until the release manager declares it.
[10:31] <elky> I don't think you realise how long it takes to preseed hundreds of mirrors
[10:32] <Ben64> around 15 minutes
[10:32] <elky> They pre-emptively pre-seed incase it is ok, because it saves time later on.
[10:32] <elky> Ben64, LOLNO
[10:32] <elky> Your naivety is hhilarious.
[10:33] <Ben64> 700MB * 4 = 2800MB / 100mbit = <5min for the set
[10:33] <Myrtti> I can't believe we're even having this conversation
[10:33] <elky> Myrtti, I'm laughing so hard right now
[10:34] <LjL> Ben64, whatever, unless you agree to either ignore the "is it out" questions, or respond with "not officially yet" or redirect to #ubuntu-release-party or #ubuntu+1, the current ban will stay. your choice.
[10:34] <Ben64> i see 186 seeds on the torrent right now, ~20 mins after the "release"
[10:35] <Ben64> don't see why getting the isos to mirrors would be harder than that
[10:35] <Tm_T> let's not waste more time on this
[10:36] <pangolin> /msg chanserv LOCKDOWN #ubuntu* Be back in 24 hours - AFTER THE RELEASE -
[10:37] <Myrtti> oooh oooh let's do that
[10:37] <bioterror> :D
[10:37] <bioterror> happy leet 'o clock from finland! ;D
[10:38] <LjL> better leet than never
[10:41] <jussi> lol
[10:52] <jiltdil> I was banned by ikonia in ubuntu. I just give the ubuntu download link and he banned me. Why ??? This should be not the reason for banned. Please tell me how to join ubuntu
[10:52] <pangolin> because you gave a link to something that is not released
[10:52] <ikonia> and you where in the channel when it was explained many times that it is NOT released.
[10:53] <jiltdil> But i just found it on ubuntu website?
[10:53] <ikonia> no, you found what you think is a release.
[10:53] <ikonia> you don't know what it is, what it's therefor
[10:53] <jiltdil> ikonia, ok sorry  please uban me.
[10:53] <ikonia> you are not canonical, you are not the release manager, you don't know what's going on
[10:53] <ikonia> no
[10:54] <ikonia> you can wait until after the release.
[10:54] <ikonia> the ban will auto remove once the release is offically out
[10:54] <jiltdil> oh please , i used to come here to see the questions asked by people so i can learn from the questions
[10:55] <jiltdil> And due to your ban i am also unable to see the asked questions :(
[10:55] <ikonia> great, you'll start learning again tomorrow,
[10:55] <ikonia> see you after the release.
[10:55] <knome> the logs are online
[10:55] <jiltdil> :(
[10:56] <ikonia> you're welcome back in the channel 24 hours from now
[10:57] <Daviey> hey.. has #ubuntu-release-announce not been opened ?
[10:57] <ikonia> jiltdil: please leave this channel now
[10:57] <ikonia> Daviey: good point
[10:58] <ikonia> I guess not
[10:58] <jiltdil> ikonia,  Ok Sorry and Thanks
[10:58] <ikonia> no problem, bye
[10:59] <ikonia> I'd like it open, it's much nicer than release party
[10:59] <Myrtti> is it +m?
[10:59] <Daviey> Who can open it?
[10:59] <ikonia> council/staff
[11:00] <Myrtti> I need tea
[11:00] <Daviey> AlanBell: around? :)
[11:00] <AlanBell> yes
[11:01] <Daviey> AlanBell: fancy opening the channel?
[11:01] <Daviey> #ubuntu-releasea-announce
[11:02] <pangolin> #ubuntu-releaseafood-announce
[11:02] <Daviey> gah
[11:04] <AlanBell> ah right, it is invite only
[11:04] <pangolin> only the cool people get to be there
[11:05] <pangolin> Daviey: we are not cool
[11:05] <Tm_T> only cool and young /:
[11:09] <Daviey> :'(
[11:54] <jrib> ah looks like we're in for a quick release today... nice
[11:55] <Myrtti> still no email...
[11:55] <ikonia> it's on the main site, nothing more can be done
[11:57] <Myrtti> my theory is that someone was sitting in the CMS with mouse cursor on the publish button and sneezed.
[12:03] <bazhang> heh thats a first
[12:07] <Myrtti> uuuer
[12:07] <Myrtti> the email is there
[12:08] <ikonia> what a great release from an enterprise business
[12:10] <ikonia> is it worth clearing +1
[12:10] <ikonia> and putting it back to invite
[12:11] <Myrtti> can I mute PartyBot?
[12:11] <AlanBell> go ahead
[12:11] <bazhang> or get LjL to change its message
[12:20] <AlanBell> !11.10
[12:20] <AlanBell> !11.04
[12:21] <Pici> !precise
[12:21] <AlanBell> !no 11.10 is <reply> Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) was the fifteenth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1110
[12:21] <Pici> augh
[12:21] <AlanBell> !11.10
[12:22] <AlanBell> !no 12.04 is <reply> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the current release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1204
[12:22] <AlanBell> !precise
[12:22] <Pici> nono
[12:23] <AlanBell> what?
[12:23] <AlanBell> do those ones not work like that
[12:23] <Pici> All the release number factoids were aliases....
[12:24] <Pici> I'll clean it up in a pm with ubottu, too much noise if I do it here.
[12:24] <Pici> :)
[12:24] <AlanBell> oh ok
[12:24] <AlanBell> I thought they were aliases to the number
[12:25] <Pici> Maybe someday we'll fix that, but for whatever reason they're all aliased to the adjective.
[12:25] <AlanBell> ok
[12:28] <Pici> jussi, tsimpson, ts2: could we please get the config values for curLTS/curStable updated? I don't have sufficient access to do that.
[12:33] <Tm_T> releasenotes doesn't load, meh
[12:35] <jussi> right, think thats done
[12:35] <Pici> no releasenotes is <reply> Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) release notes can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes
[12:37] <Pici> Tm_T: I updated the short url
[12:38] <Pici> jussi: looks good
[12:38] <Tm_T> thanks
[13:03] <Pici> !final =~ s/Discussion.*//
[13:20] <Pici> !no isitout is <reply> Yes, Ubuntu 12.04 was released on April 26th, the official announcement can be read at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2012-April/000159.html, download it at www.ubuntu.com
[13:20] <Pici> okay, time to get back to the job that pays me...
[14:30] <Pici> !info linux
[14:30] <Pici> jussi, tsimpson: we forgot to update !info
[14:31] <jussi> Pici: yeha, that takes a little longer, but Ill get to it in the next few days if tsimpson doesnt beat me to it
[17:15] <Pici> sigh
[17:16] <Pici> ogra has informed me (and I've confirmed from data in #ubuntu-release) that if someone wants to upgrade to 12.04 from 10.04, they need to use the -d switch.
[17:16] <Pici> for do-release-upgrade
[17:16] <Pici> Only once we hit 12.04.1 will that not be needed.
[17:17] <Myrtti> hasn't that been the way since ... forever?
[17:18] <Pici> has it?
[17:19] <tonyyarusso> I don't think so
[17:22] <Myrtti> I have a faint recollection that was how it was two years ago
[17:22] <tonyyarusso> That was a dream
[19:11] <Pici> LjL: thanks, was just trying to read their scrollback
[19:11] <LjL> both were silly
[20:15] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu thebigbangass Troll
[22:58] <bazhang> smallfoot- seems to think being banned in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic makes it ok to rant in +1
[22:59] <smallfoot-> hi
[22:59] <bazhang> hi
[22:59] <smallfoot-> i have no place to go
[23:00] <smallfoot-> ppl dont want me to talk in #ubuntu+1 cuz its for the next ubuntu talk
[23:00] <bazhang> smallfoot-, why were you banned in those channels
[23:00] <smallfoot-> but i cant goto #ubuntu or #ubuntu-offtopic, cuz im ban
[23:00] <smallfoot-> i dont know
[23:00] <smallfoot-> i dont remember
[23:00] <smallfoot-> i was banned from there liek 100 years ago
[23:00] <bazhang> smallfoot-, the usual complaining/ranting offtopic chat
[23:01] <smallfoot-> yeh, i get so angry that my ubuntu has firefox 11, and everyone else have firefox 12
[23:01] <bazhang> smallfoot-, and people point out solutions, but you don't listen
[23:01] <smallfoot-> well i want you to put them in the update manger so they come to my cmputer automatically
[23:02] <bazhang> then add the PPA
[23:02] <smallfoot-> oh, i didnt know there was a ppa
[23:02] <smallfoot-> also i get angry on 9999 other things
[23:02] <smallfoot-> liek the ubuntu guys didnt put Desura in repo, so now i cant play games
[23:03] <bazhang> smallfoot-, that's not appropriate for ubuntu channels
[23:03] <smallfoot-> and valve is making steam for linux, but when it comes, i prolly has to wait liek 3 year before it comes
[23:04] <bazhang> !guidelines | smallfoot- read these please
[23:04] <bazhang> !codeofconduct | smallfoot- and this too
[23:06] <smallfoot-> can i give moneys to ubuntu?
[23:06] <smallfoot-> and will it buy hamburgers or make good code?
[23:06] <bazhang> smallfoot-, did you read all those links?
[23:07] <smallfoot-> ya, cuz ppl told them to me before many times lol
[23:08] <bazhang> smallfoot-, so why are you asking those questions here? you need to read those and agree to them before we would consider lifting your bans
[23:08] <smallfoot-> ok i agree!!
[23:08] <smallfoot-> can you take away bans now?
[23:38] <bazhang> smallfoot-, please take a moment to read those links
[23:53] <smallfoot-> i will never be unbanded from ubuntu channels :(
[23:54] <IdleOne> smallfoot-: not until you follow the instructions bazhang is giving you
[23:55] <smallfoot-> :(
[23:55] <smallfoot-> plz i been banned for liek a year
[23:55] <smallfoot-> check my ban date
[23:55] <smallfoot-> its llike 2009 or something
[23:55] <smallfoot-> idk
[23:55] <smallfoot-> its friggin long time
[23:56] <IdleOne> smallfoot-: have you read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines ?
[23:56] <IdleOne> Do you understand the guidelines?
[23:57] <smallfoot-> kinda
[23:58] <smallfoot-> i dont flood or do public away msg or stuf liek that
[23:58] <smallfoot-> i always speak english and dont abuse !ops trigger
[23:58] <smallfoot-> and dont abuse bots
[23:58] <smallfoot-> and i dont have talkin scripts
[23:58] <IdleOne> you do tend to be off topic though
[23:58] <smallfoot-> uhm
[23:58] <smallfoot-> yeah idk
[23:59] <smallfoot-> maybe
[23:59] <smallfoot-> but its not my fault
[23:59] <IdleOne> sure it is
[23:59] <IdleOne> you're the one typing
[23:59] <smallfoot-> yeah, but but something happens then i must say it in the ubuntu channel if its bout ubuntu
[23:59] <smallfoot-> example i only have firefox 11 and not firefox 12, then i get angry


[01:08] <Elleo> could someone not in the UK try running: mplayer "http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_lc1_radio3_p?s=1424386952&e=1424401352&h=d301bd709de22e25057101201fa4934a" and let me know if you hear anything?
[01:27] <simosx> Elleo, it's a symphony, then clapping.
[01:27] <simosx> Selected audio codec: AAC (Advanced Audio Coding) [libavcodec]
[01:27] <simosx> AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, floatle, 0.0 kbit/0.00% (ratio: 0->352800)
[01:27] <simosx> AO: [pulse] 44100Hz 2ch floatle (4 bytes per sample)
[01:27] <Elleo> simosx: excellent
[01:27] <Elleo> simosx: it's BBC Radio 3
[01:28] <simosx> Elleo, normally it does not stream to non-UK IPs?
[01:28] <Elleo> simosx: I read in an article that they were expanding their shoutcast services to be available outside the UK, wanted to check to see if it had actually happened
[01:28] <simosx> ok
[01:28] <Elleo> simosx: it used to be UK only, but apparently not anymore :)
[01:29] <Elleo> and as long as you parse the shoutcast playlist yourself media-hub can handle the streams
[01:29] <Elleo> so I can see about writing either a BBC radio app, or possibly a more generic shoutcast streaming app
[01:29] <simosx> Elleo, that symphony was conducted by the BBC orchestra (or something), so the test might not be conclusive to all BBC broadcasts.
[01:29] <Elleo> simosx: that's a live broadcast of whatever's on BBC radio 3 right now
[01:30] <simosx> Elleo, ah ok.
[01:30] <Elleo> simosx: apparently the major BBC channels should all be available now except sport (due to licensing issues)
[03:29] <grimx> How come the QtQuick 2.0 controls don't offer a F1 dialog when the mouse is overed over them?
[07:32] <dholbach> good morning
[07:35] <sturmflut-work> Chipaca: https://appstore.bhdouglass.com/app/com.chipaca.poke best icon I've ever seen.
[07:49] <jgm90> hi guys
[07:49] <jgm90> i have a dude
[07:50] <jgm90> is posible to force download mp3 file usng html5 app in ubuntu touch
[08:08] <dpm> dholbach, looking at bug 1416389 now. As per the last comment, I just need to check out the translations-module branch and merge the 1416389 on top, right?
[08:10] <dholbach> dpm, translations module is already merged in trunk
[08:10] <dholbach> so just branching lp:~dholbach/ubuntu-devices-help/1416389  should be enough
[08:10] <dpm> ok, cool
[08:10] <dholbach> https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-devices-help/1416389/+merge/249647 being the MP for it
[08:11] <dpm> ok
[08:13] <justCarakas> good morning alll à/
[08:13] <justCarakas> o/
[08:28] <dpm> dholbach, on translations.py, what's the purpose of backup_documents() - does it backup _everything_ in the source tree previous to modification of files (which will be restored again)?
[08:37] <dpm> dholbach, also I'm not quite following what you mean on the bug with "the meta-data strings get re-added twice"
[08:38] <dpm> I generated the .pot now, now trying to generate some translations
[08:38] <dholbach> dpm, yes, backup_documents() copies stuff back - the idea being that we leave the documents as they are, just try to generate the .pot files without the meta-data strings (ie, save_as:,  lang:, etc.)
[08:39] <dholbach> so for the point in time when we run po4a-gettextize we pretend the documents don't contain those strings
[08:40] <dpm> dholbach, gotcha. Just an implementation detail and asking out of curiosity - have you considered just copying over the docs to /tmp and then get po4a-gettextize to look at that location? That would remove the need for restoring the data
[08:40] <dholbach> the problem is that when generate the translated docs (using po4a-translate), the meta-data strings re-appear again - which is a bit of a problem, because we want to write them ourselves (lang being the new language, save_as the new place where we want to store the generated file)
[08:41] <dholbach> good point
[08:41] <dholbach> will do
[08:41] <dholbach> I'll just get another coffee and will get straight to it
[08:41] <dholbach> that should indeed simplify the code somewhat
[08:41] <dpm> dholbach, no rush on that, it was just a comment
[08:41] <dholbach> no worries
[08:42] <dpm> dholbach, ok, going to look at po4a-translate now
[08:42] <dpm> getting a drink first too :)
[08:48]  * dholbach knows the feeling of "I need a drink" - but early in the morning ... ?
[08:48] <dholbach> :-P
[08:48] <dpm> :-)
[08:50] <dpm> dholbach, I generally use tempfile.mkdtemp and then set it to be removed automatically on exit for these cases
[08:50] <dpm> just in case you find it useful ^
[08:51] <dpm> anyway, now looking at the part that really interests us
[08:51] <dholbach> yep :)
[08:58] <mario__> hi...what package do I need to install in order to use Ubuntu.Web 0.2 components?
[08:59] <dpm> dholbach, so I ran the build rules separately:
[09:00] <dpm> cd edit-here && ./generate-translations <- this gave me the translated German files in markdown (as expected)
[09:01] <dpm> cd .. && make -C edit-here html <- this generated HTML only for the English pages (not sure why it ignored the German .md files)
[09:01] <dpm> am I missing something?
[09:01] <dholbach> no, not sure - hum
[09:01] <dholbach> which files did you find in app/www?
[09:02] <dpm> just the 4 generated HTML files in English
[09:02] <dpm> I'll try directly with 'make html'
[09:02] <dholbach> hum
[09:04] <dpm> dholbach, is pelican expecting the files in content to be under a 'pages' directory? Because now I've got 'de' and 'pages' under 'content'
[09:05] <dpm> it seems it's processing only those under 'pages'
[09:05] <dholbach> yeah, I guess they should be under pages/de? it's been a few days since I looked at the code, so I have to find back into it myself :)
[09:06] <dpm> I thought so, but that doesn't work, it still seems to ignore the German pages
[09:06] <dpm> let me look if they are different in any way to the English ones
[09:10] <dholbach> dpm, ok, I removed the need to backup files
[09:11] <dholbach> hum........
[09:11] <dholbach> -#: content/de/pages/apps.md:2
[09:11] <dholbach> +#: /tmp/tmpza2vhfyp/content/de/pages/apps.md:2
[09:11] <dholbach> ^ this is probably not what we want
[09:12] <dpm> dholbach, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10321377/
[09:13] <dholbach> no .html files?
[09:13] <dpm> dholbach, yeah, we want a relative path there, but we can figure it out later
[09:14] <dpm> dholbach, sorry, yeah, .html files, but only the English ones. It seems the build rule rearranges my manual layout, so that the German .md files are still ignored
[09:14] <dholbach> ok, fixed the relative paths
[09:14] <dholbach> maybe that's a configuration setting?
[09:14] <dholbach> let me see
[09:15] <dpm> i.e. my hunch is that pelican expects it to be under 'pages', but during the build they're being moved up to 'de', so they're ignored
[09:17] <dpm> ah, pulling your latest branch it seems we're getting somewhere: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10321428/
[09:17] <dholbach> ok, so we need to change 'generate-translations' to write everything under pages/<lang>/...
[09:19] <dpm> yeah, but wait, my error was because I still had some files left over from my manual copying
[09:20] <dpm> ok, build succeeds now, but yes, I think that's what we need to do, get generate-translations to write under pages/<lang>
[09:20] <dholbach> yep
[09:20] <dholbach> hang on
[09:20] <dpm> ok
[09:21] <dholbach> pushed
[09:21] <dpm> cool
[09:21] <dholbach> LP is REALLY fast analysing a newly pushed diff now
[09:21] <dholbach> nice
[09:21] <dholbach> like in a MP page
[09:22] <dpm> Done: Processed 0 article(s), 0 draft(s) and 8 page(s) in 0.08 seconds.
[09:22] <dpm> \o/
[09:22] <dholbach> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10321474/
[09:22] <dholbach> the structure still doesn't quite work
[09:22] <dholbach> it doesn't seem to adhere to "Save_as:" which would override the filename
[09:23] <dholbach> and authors, categories, archives is stuff we don't need either
[09:23] <dholbach> but we're slowly getting there
[09:24] <dpm> dholbach, here's what I got: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10321496/
[09:25] <dpm> ah, sorry, reading your pastebin
[09:27] <dpm> dholbach, the final 'lang' on the html files doesn't seem right either, it's always 'en'. How do these tags work? I.e. are pelican or po4a specific?
[09:27] <dholbach> pelican
[09:27] <dholbach> damn, I just pushed to trunk
[09:28] <dholbach> but I found the problem with the Lang: tag - it's fixed, but in trunk now
[09:29] <dholbach> at least trunk is in a better state than before
[09:29] <dholbach> I'll create a new branch for further fixes and use --remember :)
[09:30] <dpm> dholbach, np. I'll just move to trunk. Careful with --remember, I managed to push to trunk once using it too :)
[09:30] <dholbach> yeah, I still had    bzr push :parent    in my bash history in another terminal tab
[09:30] <dholbach> I pressed enter too quickly
[09:31] <dpm> dholbach, np, just let me know when you've got the new branch with the additional fixes, and I'll switch to that one
[09:31] <dholbach> dpm, but yeah - trunk is what I have now and the Lang: bits should be correct now
[09:31] <dholbach> right now it seems to fall over if Title is not translated
[09:31] <dholbach> ... or something
[09:32] <dpm> dholbach, does save_as determine the final layout of the generated html files?
[09:32] <dholbach> dpm, http://docs.getpelican.com/en/latest/faq.html#how-can-i-override-the-generated-url-of-a-specific-page-or-article
[09:32] <dholbach> maybe we need URL too
[09:33] <dholbach> or an empty URL: like in the question below
[09:37]  * dpm needs to learn a bit more about pelican
[09:40] <dholbach> dpm, I'm using lp:~dholbach/ubuntu-devices-help/translations-fixes now - I now write URL:/Save_as tags as used in the documentation
[09:40] <dholbach> the problem I'm now running into is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10321673/
[09:40] <dpm> is this because the untranslated title you were mentioning?
[09:41] <dpm> Or is it not writing the tag at all?
[09:41] <dholbach> dpm, what's weird is that if you look at files in content/pages/de
[09:42] <dholbach> they have Lang/Save_as/Date/URL all written nicely
[09:42] <dholbach> but a title line (which comes from po4a-translate) is "Title: Get in touch URL: Save_as: pages/get-in-touch.html Lang: en"
[09:42] <dholbach> which is bizarre, since that string doesn't even turn up in the .pot file
[09:42] <dpm> yeah, I just saw that
[09:43] <dholbach> but, even if you replace it with a proper "title" tag, pelican still complains
[09:44] <dpm> does the title need to be straight after the other tags, or perhaps at the start of the file? It seems now there is a new line between the other tags and Title - looking at pages/de/apps.md
[09:46] <dholbach> I don't know - I'm just trying to figure it out
[09:52] <nagu> hi
[09:52] <nagu> there
[09:52] <nagu> i'm a ubuntu freak and want to get involved in the development
[09:53] <nagu> i downloaded the ubuntu sdk
[09:53] <nagu> i was amazed with scopes and i want to develop one
[09:53] <nagu> can anyone please guide me in the regard
[09:53] <nagu> i'm c++ developer
[09:55] <dholbach> hey nagu
[09:55] <dholbach> did you have a look at http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes already?
[09:55] <nagu> hi
[09:55] <dholbach> dpm, I just pushed a fix to lp:~dholbach/ubuntu-devices-help/translations-fixes - it's still having problems with  the titles though
[09:56] <dpm> that's awesome nagu, yeah, as dholbach said, and if you've got any questions, feel free to ask here
[09:56] <nagu> sure
[09:56] <nagu> s
[09:56] <dpm> dholbach, ok, pulling, was reading a bit about pelican
[09:56] <dholbach> nagu, I would recommend to go through the articles in that section - they should help you get started
[09:56] <nagu> i'm following this https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/scopes/tutorials/write-a-json-scope-in-cpp/
[09:57] <dholbach> dpm, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10321859/
[09:58] <dholbach> dpm, I did some local manipulation
[09:58] <dholbach> dpm, it looks like "Title:" needs to go first
[09:58] <dpm> ah, ok
[09:58] <dholbach> dpm, and I need to figure out why po4a-translate generates this broken Title line out of nowhere
[09:58] <dholbach> dpm, I'll let you know once it's done
[09:59] <dpm> awesome, thanks dholbach!
[09:59] <dholbach> dpm, thanks for all the help - having a fresh set of eyes on it made all the difference
[09:59] <dpm> dholbach, no worries, not sure I could help much, but happy we're figuring it out!
[10:04] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Love Your Pet Day! :-D
[10:07] <dpm> dholbach, it seems like po4a-translate just removes the \n in the tags at the start of the original English .md file. I.e. it's doing its own rewrapping. Perhaps because it's not standard markdown to have lines of text just after each other separated by a newline? I know you can have that if you prepend them with '-' to make a list, or with 4 spaces for code, but generally there's an extra \n to separate paragraphs
[10:07] <dpm> in any case, it rewraps the whole file, not just the title (and the other tags along the way)
[10:07] <dholbach> yeah, my gut feeling is that we have to work around it
[10:08] <dpm> perhaps there is a --no-wrap option in po4a?
[10:08] <dholbach> we're doing that in generate_translations anyway :/
[10:08] <dholbach> hum
[10:08] <dholbach> wouldn't that break some of the markdown text?
[10:09] <dpm> Not sure, but in any case, there only seems to be a --width option available
[10:15] <mrqtros> popey ping
[10:16] <popey> hey mrqtros
[10:16] <popey> mrqtros: how are you ?
[10:16] <mrqtros> popey hello!
[10:16] <mrqtros> popey did you see my email? :)
[10:17] <mrqtros> popey I am fine, thanks, and you? :)
[10:17] <popey> no..
[10:17] <popey> ok :)
[10:17] <popey> let me see...
[10:18] <mrqtros> popey mb I choosed wrong address
[10:18] <popey> ooh! found it, sorry!
[10:19] <popey> will reply. sorry I missed it
[10:19] <mrqtros> popey that's ok, I can only imagine amount of work which you do after UP release)
[10:19] <popey> heh
[10:25] <nagu> hi
[10:25] <nagu> i installed qt
[10:25] <nagu> and when i'm trying to run the sample scope project im getting error that says g++-4.9  is required
[10:26] <dpm> dholbach, not sure if that helps, but it seems for some reason po4-gettextize already does some strange stuff considering title a separate message to translate but wrapping together all the rest of tags in the .pot file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10322154/
[10:26] <nagu> i did install it
[10:26] <nagu> but still the system shows gcc-4.8 and the error prevails
[10:27] <nagu> could u please help me in this regard
[10:27] <nagu> i'm newbee in ubuntu development
[10:28] <mrqtros> nagu seems that some time ago I also met such problem
[10:28] <mrqtros> nagu try to set g++4.9 as default compiler
[10:28] <dholbach> dpm, yeah, I'm figuring out what's happening :)
[10:28] <nagu> hi mrqtros
[10:28] <mrqtros> nagu hi
[10:28] <nagu> could u please help me
[10:29] <nagu> sorry i will be asking all the basic stuffs
[10:29] <dpm> dholbach, if I add two spaces at the end of each tag line, then they appear in their own msgstr in the .pot file as expected. I noticed each Q and A in the doc have also got these two trailing spaces
[10:29] <nagu> pardon me if that irritates u all
[10:30] <mrqtros> nagu try to check http://askubuntu.com/questions/466651/how-do-i-use-the-latest-gcc-4-9-on-ubuntu-14-04, especially last answer
[10:30] <mrqtros> nagu I hope this will help "sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/gcc gcc /usr/bin/gcc-4.9 60 --slave /usr/bin/g++ g++ /usr/bin/g++-4.9"
[10:31] <dpm> nagu, another option is to update to Ubuntu 14.10. I think that'll be easier than messing around with compilers. And scopes development is only partially supported in Ubuntu 14.04
[10:32] <nagu> oh is it
[10:33] <nagu> upgrades have many times screwed my system
[10:33] <nagu> is there a safe way to upgrade
[10:34] <nagu> i have cinnamon desktop environment
[10:34] <nagu> hi dpm thanks for ur response
[10:34] <nagu> hi mrqtros
[10:36] <dpm> nagu, sorry, I'm not sure we can support cinnamon here. Not because we don't want to, but I don't think there are many folks around using it
[10:36] <nagu> i'm seeing this error on qt CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:9 (message):   g++ version must be 4.9! -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! See also "/media/hacker/3BF7-72AF/scope/build-myscope-Desktop-Default/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log".
[10:36] <nagu> i did apply ur solution mrqtros
[10:37] <mrqtros> nagu and no any result?
[10:37] <nagu> got this when i applied ur command update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/gcc-4.9 to provide /usr/bin/gcc (gcc) in auto mode
[10:43] <nagu> any help on that
[10:43] <dholbach> dpm, we don't want the tag lines to end up in the .pot file
[10:44] <dholbach> dpm, Title yes, but nothing else
[10:44] <nagu> hi dpm will it be sufficient if i upgrade to 14.10
[10:47] <mrqtros> nagu in 14.10 gcc 4.9 is set by default
[10:51] <dpm> nagu, yes, but as I say, I'm not using cinnamon, so I don't know how well the upgrade process for Linux Mint works
[10:52] <dpm> or if the SDK works well there
[10:55] <dholbach> dpm, https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-devices-help/translations-fixes/+merge/250426
[10:57] <dpm> dholbach, awesome, works perfectly!
[10:57] <dholbach> dpm, there might be a prettier solution, but this one seems to work for me and 'make html' will have the correct tree structure
[10:58] <dpm> dholbach, just one thing: it seems the translated html files still have the <html lang="en"> tag
[10:58] <dholbach> dpm, I'll file a separate bug
[10:58] <dpm> ok, cool
[10:58] <dholbach> dpm, that's probably something which needs to be fixed in the theme somewhere
[11:00] <nagu> cool
[11:00] <nagu> thanks dpm and mrqtros
[11:01] <nagu> will get back once i try those
[11:01] <dpm> dholbach, would that not be updated dynamically on generating the html files? The theme should only deal with the layout
[11:01] <nagu> i desprately want to learn scopes development
[11:02] <dholbach> dpm, shall I land the branch or are you still reviewing it?
[11:02] <dholbach> dpm, I think it needs fixing in theme/templates/base.html
[11:02] <dholbach> dpm, right now the bit is static
[11:02] <dpm> dholbach, I'm still reviewing it, will be ready in a few minutes
[11:02] <dholbach> ok, no worries
[11:02] <dholbach> I'll look into bug 1423871 now
[11:03] <dpm> dholbach, yeah, the html file template is static, but the only place where we can easily update the language for each translation is when creating the html files, I think
[11:06] <dholbach> dpm, some of the pelican themes seem to make use of the translations data - if you have a look at the output of: "grep -ri transl /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pelican/themes/"
[11:07] <dholbach> dpm, I'm wondering if we can massage this into our theme somehow
[11:09] <dpm> dholbach, not sure. I still don't understand how pelican handles translations. It seems to me we're using it as if we were just using raw html to load a particular $LANG directory and not using any localization capabilities from pelican
[11:10] <dholbach> mh
[11:28] <dpm> dholbach, reviewed and approved
[11:28] <dholbach> thanks dpm
[11:28] <dpm> added some comments too
[11:29] <dholbach> dpm, thanks - I'm not quite sure about it either
[11:30] <dholbach> meaning I have the same questions as you do :)
[11:31] <dpm> :)
[11:32] <dpm> hi daker, I didn't manage to follow up on the status, was that merge proposal of yours to add localization support for HTML apps ever merged?
[11:56] <dholbach> dpm, maybe we don't need the overrides but just use the PAGE_LANG* settings (http://docs.getpelican.com/en/latest/settings.html?highlight=language)?
[11:57] <dholbach> → lunch, brb
[13:36] <dholbach> balloons, dpm helped me with landing the translations bits, we're getting closer to being open for business :)
[14:25] <dpm> hi bfiller, do you think someone from your team could have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/address-book-app/aim_is_not_aim/+merge/249161 ? It's just a small translation fix - shouldn't take more than a couple of mins to review and would help us get the right translations for the Address Book
[14:45] <kenvandine> dpm,  i reviewed it
[14:55] <dpm> awesome, thanks kenvandine!
[16:08] <dholbach> dpm, balloons: https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-devices-help/1423871/+merge/250467
[16:08] <dholbach> there are still a few small things to be fixed, but I think we're on a good way
[16:24] <dpm> dholbach, cool, thanks. Not sure if I'll manage today, but I've put it on my list
[16:25] <dpm> maybe balloons can help so it's not blocking on me
[16:25] <dholbach> thanks!
[17:03] <jgm90> someone know if is possible to download files with ubuntu touch html5 app
[17:03] <ogra_> why wouldnt it
[17:03] <ogra_> butyou are limited to where you can store them
[17:04] <ogra_> (iirc only in ~/.local/share/<appname>)
[17:04] <daker> jgm90: what do you mean by download files ?
[17:08] <jgm90> i test in the sdk
[17:08] <jgm90> a webm file
[17:08] <jgm90> but it does not download just streaming
[17:14] <daker> jgm90: you can use the Ubuntu Download Manager to trigger downloads
[17:14] <daker> from an HTML5 app
[17:14] <daker> try to look this example https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~webapps/unity-webapps-qml/trunk/files/head:/examples/api-bindings/download-manager/www/
[17:15] <daker> since no docs about udm is available yet
[17:16] <ahayzen> balloons, ping
[17:16] <balloons> ahayzen, ping pong
[17:16] <ahayzen> balloons, o/ i'm trying investigate that calendar AP issue ... but it runs and passes for me ... but fails for popey every time
[17:17] <ahayzen> balloons, note i'm on utopic and he is on vivid ... both running on the desktop
[17:18] <ahayzen> balloons, i just tried running AP after doing the source export_modules_dir in the UITK but not sure if it actually used the latest UITK or not
[17:18] <balloons> ahayzen, the calendar thing has an infinite loop in it. I filed a bug. It general it should be fixed regardless. Also, as the functionality has changed the test could really use a revamp anyway
[17:18] <jgm90> ok thank you i will try
[17:18] <balloons> I have something that *should* work, but autopilot is unhappy with me atm
[17:19] <ahayzen> balloons, which loop in particular? while timelineview.contentX != val: self.app.main_view.swipe_view(direction, self.week_view) ?
[17:19] <balloons> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1423582
[17:19] <balloons> ahayzen, indeed
[17:19] <balloons> I massively simplified that method
[17:19] <balloons> it's quite a mess
[17:19] <ahayzen> balloons, oh awesome yeah i've been trying to decipher it lol
[17:20] <popey> balloons: ahayzen  this is what it does for me - http://people.canonical.com/~alan/vokoscreen-2015-02-20_17-18-30.mkv
[17:20] <balloons> ahayzen, lol yes, it's crazy eh!
[17:20] <balloons> what of the terminal app?
[17:21] <popey> balloons: https://code.launchpad.net/~flscogna/ubuntu-terminal-app/json-keyboard-profiles/+merge/249754
[17:21] <popey> seems to be running the old tests
[17:21] <popey> the ones from the old terminal
[17:21] <popey> at least in the dashboard it does
[17:21] <popey> balloons: https://code.launchpad.net/~flscogna/ubuntu-terminal-app/json-keyboard-profiles/+merge/249754
[17:21] <popey> uh, http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/vivid/touch/mako/106:20150220:20150210/12348/ubuntu_terminal_app/
[17:25] <ahayzen> balloons, so is your attempt to fix the issue likely to work or should i continue investigating? (it sounds like you have made the code sane as well hehe)
[17:28] <balloons> ok, so old tests.. let's see
[17:28] <balloons> ahayzen, let me share my wip
[17:28] <ahayzen> balloons, thanks
[17:30] <balloons> ahayzen, lp:~nskaggs/ubuntu-calendar-app/fix-infloop-ap
[17:30] <ahayzen> balloons, \o/ thanks :)
[17:31]  * balloons looks at terminal tests
[17:33] <balloons> popey, you are correct, looks like it pulls the tests using phablet-click-test-setup..
[17:35] <ahayzen> balloons, does your fail with StateNotFoundError: Object not found with name 'Label' and properties {'objectname': 'weeknumber'} on L84?
[17:36] <balloons> ahayzen, yes.. for some reason I can't get any select's to work.. print_tree shows everything there
[17:36] <ahayzen> magic :)
[17:36] <balloons> I actually had it keying off things somewhat differently, and moved to the label since NOTHING was working
[17:36] <balloons> but yea, the function should be just that simple imho
[17:37] <balloons> swipe the top, check for the week change (actually I just wanted to wait for moving to be false)
[17:37] <balloons> ahh yes, it's commented out
[17:39] <balloons> ahayzen, I do remember now, yes I wanted to grab the view, swipe it and check. self.week_view.select_single('PathViewBase', objectname='weekViewPath')
[17:39] <balloons> that fails too..
[17:39] <ahayzen> weird
[17:39] <ahayzen> love how the WeekView helper is...empty \o/ ...but the others have things
[17:39] <balloons> ahayzen, yes, some of the objects are a little fun
[17:42] <balloons> popey, so I'm confused on the reboot series.. trunk seems to be not getting update, but reboot is
[17:43] <popey> reboot is the new one.
[17:43] <balloons> right, but is the manifest info correct so it points to it?
[17:43] <popey> i think we tried switching focus to the new one and it broke jenkins so we switched back.
[17:43] <balloons> reboot really should be trunk or you'll have issues I think
[17:44] <balloons> I need to pull the click from the smoke test; my guess is the manifest is pulling from trunk and the old version
[17:44] <popey> hmm
[17:48] <balloons> popey, confirmed ;-)
[17:48] <balloons> as suspected, you are getting rev 53 of lp:ubuntu-terminal-app tests
[17:49] <balloons> ahayzen, so if it's also not working for you, I clearly broke something lol
[17:49] <ahayzen> balloons, ... yeah it is in the *massive* print_tree for me as well though
[17:49] <balloons> popey, and I note https://code.launchpad.net/~flscogna/ubuntu-terminal-app/json-keyboard-profiles/+merge/249754 is against lp:ubuntu-terminal-app as well.. shouldn't it be against reboot?
[17:50] <balloons> ahayzen, you can limit depth with print_tree, fyi
[17:50] <ahayzen> balloons, and even like removing Label and using the app rather than main_view didn't work self.app.app.wait_select_single('*', objectname='weeknumber')
[17:50] <popey> yes balloons
[17:50] <balloons> printe_tree(max_depth=2)
[17:50] <ahayzen> balloons, yeah but it was near the bottom lol ;)
[17:50] <balloons> ahayzen, :-)
[17:50] <popey> ahhh!
[17:50] <ahayzen> balloons, what does vis see?
[17:51] <balloons> ahayzen, when I looked in vis it saw exactly as expected. Same as print_tree
[17:51] <ahayzen> balloons, and you said you couldn't pick other things on this view/page as well?
[17:51] <ahayzen> balloons, you have clearly done something AP doesn't like lol
[17:54] <popey> balloons: want to leave a comment for Filippon on the merge or shall I?
[17:57] <balloons> popey, sure I'll do it
[17:57] <popey> thank you!
[17:57] <popey> clearly my eyes are working well enough to spot that!
[17:57] <balloons> popey, or we can simply resubmit actually and land it ourselves
[17:57] <ahayzen> balloons, is it bad if you can't even reget the weekViewPage from the mainView?
[17:57] <popey> nah, lets let him re-focus it
[17:57] <balloons> popey, ok
[17:57] <popey> he has another merge on the way, so I suspect he's around
[17:57] <popey> we can land it over the weekend if it works.
[17:58] <popey> its an awesome addition to the app, so I'm keen for it to land and him to get the glory
[17:58] <balloons> kk.. so, on the other side of the coin, you should really swap trunk to reboot :-)
[17:58] <popey> well..
[17:58] <popey> yes.
[17:58] <balloons> OR.. at least update the manifest
[17:58] <popey> But I need ci people around to make sure we dont break stuff
[17:59] <popey> because last time we did this we broke _all_ tests on the daily image
[17:59] <balloons> right.. don't do it today, lol
[17:59] <balloons> friday afternoon.. perfect time!
[17:59] <popey> so we were not flavour of the month
[17:59] <popey> indeed
[17:59] <popey> because the phablet test run barfed out completely on the _first_ failure
[17:59] <popey> (which in my mind means the infra is broken, but what do I know? :) )
[17:59] <balloons> but you can simply update the manifest to set the vcz-bzr to reboot if you wish
[17:59] <popey> ya
[17:59] <balloons> popey, yes.. they really need to move to adt
[18:01] <ahayzen> balloons, so calling self.app.main_view.get_week_view() works... but calling self.app.main_view.wait_select_single(WeekView, objectname="weekViewPage") from inside the test doesn't ? from what i can see they are the same code?
[18:03] <balloons> ahayzen, o really?
[18:03] <balloons> nice catch!
[18:03] <ahayzen> balloons, but thats mental lol
[18:11] <ahayzen> balloons, maybe the solution is to implement everything in the helpers properly? hehe
[18:14] <ahayzen> balloons, that doesn't work lol
[18:17] <balloons> ahayzen, ohh, failure?
[18:18] <balloons> If it did work naturally we'd have to scratch our heads as to why
[18:18] <ahayzen> balloons, yeah if i put the select inside the WeekView class
[18:18] <ahayzen> (that was for the pathview thing)
[18:19] <ahayzen> balloons, but what is weird is the get_week_view() in MainView works...but doing a select for the Page in the tests doesn't ... *that* is weird
[18:21] <balloons> ahayzen, technically I guess some of this stuff should go into the WeekView class
[18:21] <ahayzen> balloons, yeah probably
[18:21] <ahayzen> balloons, if it worked ;)
[18:22] <balloons> so I'm going to restart on this
[18:22] <ahayzen> ok probably best there is something strange going on
[18:25] <balloons> so select_many for Label works and gets it
[18:28] <balloons> ahayzen, so the mystery might just lie in the fact select_many works..
[18:28] <ahayzen> balloons, wtf? lol
[18:29] <ahayzen> balloons, why doesn't (wait_)select_single work?
[18:29] <balloons> so I select_many and get a single result
[18:32] <ahayzen> balloons, hmm i get nothing or loads of them, how are you doing it?
[18:32] <balloons> I'm trying to get the PathViewBase now
[18:32] <balloons> but the label seemed to be able to get working using select_many; heh
[18:32] <balloons> I get no results now for select_many.. which is weird, it should error
[18:50] <balloons> ahayzen, I pushed an update
[18:50]  * ahayzen pulls
[18:53] <ahayzen> balloons, so that swipes the pathview correctly but then fails in _assert_first_day_of_week with MismatchError: 16 != 23
[18:53] <balloons> ahayzen, yes.. although actually I see I need to repull the header (as it points to the old one after swiping once)
[18:53] <balloons> so more or less it should work.. note autopilot still refuses to find the pathviewbase by objectname
[18:53] <ahayzen> yeah good point
[18:58] <balloons> ok, now to fix the hobbled test
[18:58] <balloons> then we'll move things into the helpers
[18:58] <ahayzen> \o/
[19:41] <kenvandine> this feels wrong... but i'm very excited to say i just ran the Bacon2D examples on windows 8 :)
[19:42] <popey> get out
[19:42] <kenvandine> <- sick and twisted... i know
[19:42] <kenvandine> but yay for cross platform games :)
[19:42] <kenvandine> native that is
[19:42] <kenvandine> yeah, i just fixed the build for windows
[19:42] <kenvandine> popey, should work for windows phone and iOS too, but i haven't tried
[19:44] <kenvandine> so Bacon2D is confirmed to work on Ubuntu, Android and Windows :-D
[19:52]  * DanChapman is tempted to try re-creating his old scratch based ski game with Bacon2D (http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/2838858/) to see how it works
[19:55] <popey> Horace Goes Skiing!
[19:56] <kenvandine> ha
[19:56] <kenvandine> DanChapman, do it!
[20:01] <kenvandine> i'm tempted to try it on windows phone too, QtCreator does let you create a kit for it... I'd have to figure out how to get the emulator running
[20:08] <popey> how about on jolla?
[20:08] <popey> their sdk is qtc based too, and self contained last time I looked
[20:09] <kenvandine> popey, sure, should just work
[20:09] <kenvandine> Elleo, you have a jolla right?
[20:10] <kenvandine> Elleo, you should try Bacon2D, just to prove it works :)
[20:10] <kenvandine> popey, i really want someone with a mac and some ios experience to try it too
[20:11] <kenvandine> i think there will be some compiler errors right now, but shouldn't be hard to fix
[20:11] <kenvandine> for someone with a mac
[20:21]  * popey looks at his mac
[20:21] <kenvandine> popey, you should fix the build :)
[20:21] <popey> haha
[20:21] <kenvandine> or donate your mac to a good cause
[20:21] <popey> I want our sdk on osx before bacon2d, sorry :)
[20:21]  * kenvandine runs
[20:22] <kenvandine> i want our sdk on android before osx
[20:22] <popey> wait, what
[20:22] <kenvandine> but... it'd be hard
[20:22] <popey> I mean, I want people with OSX to be able to develop Ubuntu apps first.
[20:22] <kenvandine> i want qml apps written for ubuntu to also work on android
[20:23] <popey> oh i see
[20:23] <popey> we'll get there
[21:22] <Elleo> kenvandine: yeah, if I ever actually finish my game I'm planning on releasing it for sailfish too
[21:22] <Elleo> kenvandine: it certainly worked on sailfish with the original box2d version, so doubt there'll be any problems for the bacon2d version
[21:23] <Elleo> popey: just got granted access to the shoutcast directory service \o/
[21:24] <kenvandine> Elleo, cool, cross platform native games FTW
[21:25] <Elleo> kenvandine: yep, one of my gamedev friends is moving near me in a few months, going to team up with them to try and get it finished when they do
[21:26] <kenvandine> sweet
[21:26]  * kenvandine started a download of the windows phone emulator... to try tonight
[21:26]  * kenvandine feels like he's cheating on ubuntu :)
[21:26] <Elleo> heh
[21:26] <kenvandine> for purely scientific purposes :)
[21:39] <popey> Elleo: \o/
[22:05] <kenvandine> popey, guess what.. it builds and runs on osx... and it builds for ios too!
[22:05] <kenvandine> but there isn't an easy way to test running the examples on ios
[22:05] <kenvandine> we'd have to do more work to set that up
[22:31] <Elleo> kenvandine: cool
[22:31] <Elleo> aren't there some licensing issues with Qt + iOS?
[22:32] <Elleo> something about their store policies iirc
[22:34] <Elleo> ah, apparently ios 8 supports dynamic linking for apps now
[23:48]  * dock9 just saw a great presentation by Michael Hall at SCALE. Made me want to develop for an Ubuntu phone - which before I thought was the wrong direction for Canonical.


[07:19] <j_v> I know how to setup xmltv for multiple lineups, but how to to setup the backend to use my grab data?
[07:40] <noisymime> Anyone about running the 0.26 branch on 12.04?
[08:01] <j_v> OK, I think I've find out how to get my xml data imported into the database; I just need to make sure that mythfilldatabase is only run with the data I've retrieved.
[12:51] <dmfrey> tgm4883, you there?
[16:12] <tgm4883> dmfrey, yep
[16:14] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, I got to play with a xps 13 at a release party yesterday. I'm sold on it now
[16:46] <Shred00> does/will mythbunutu's 0.26 packages take care of all of the switch to UTC shenanigans during the upgrade?
[16:55] <Shred00> seems it does perhaps:
[16:55] <Shred00>     if ! mysql_tzinfo_to_sql /usr/share/zoneinfo/ | mysql $SECURITY_INFO mysql >/dev/null 2>&1; then
[17:04] <superm1> Shred00: yeah it loads all the time zone stuff into sql for you
[17:04] <superm1>  there are some warnings that come up while loading, but they should be harmless
[18:37] <qwebirc86618> Just installed 12.04, I have a hvr-2250, installed the NXP7164-2010-03-10.1.fw, I now have analog support
[18:37] <qwebirc86618> My bug is that if i record on one channel and try to view live tv on the other I get a blue screen.
[18:38] <qwebirc86618> Would also like to know if there is any hope of making the remote work on this card.
[19:18] <qwebirc86618> bump
[21:26] <qwebirc37301> My computer crashed, so reposting. Just installed 12
[21:28] <qwebirc37301> 12.04 and I have a HVR-2250, I installed the NXP7164-2010-03-10.1.fw firmware and I now have analaog support. My probleme is that if I schedule a show to record and then try to watch live tv I get a blue screen.
[21:29] <qwebirc37301> I`ve searched every possible website and nothing works. What did I miss.
[21:29] <qwebirc37301> Also I would like to know if there is any chance for the remote to ever work.
[22:22] <aramus> Hi there for some reason whenever my myth system starts it always ask me for my language selection and to enter the backend data.  I am using mythbuntu 12.04  how do i avoid this?
[22:50] <qwebirc37301> aramus, I fixed it by adding a timeout on page 2 of the window that pops up. I played with the values and even now when it restarts I get a warning that the backend is not running but after a couple of seconds it goes away.
[23:05] <ScuffMcGruff> Can anyone comment on if an E2160 + 4670 would do MythTV OK ?


 It took me all of an hour to learn that is an absolute lie.
[14:36] <jrwren> Good morning.
[14:40] <cmaloney> jrwren: Now now now ECMASCript 6 is amazeballs
[14:40] <cmaloney> it's like JavaScript is a real language now instead of a series of poorly-though-out hacks
[14:41] <cmaloney> but then again, when you're coming from a series of pooly thought out hacks I'm sure anything looks good by comparison
[14:41] <jrwren> nope.
[14:41] <jrwren> its still hell, not matter what you say.
[14:41] <jrwren> e.g.
[14:41] <jrwren> n=["hi","mom"]
[14:41] <jrwren> now turn that into `{hi :"mom"}` programmatically.
[14:41] <jrwren> I'm so dumb I don't know how.
[14:41] <jrwren> {n[0]:n[1]} doesn't work
[14:42] <jrwren> Object.create({n[0]:n[1]}) doesn't work.
[14:42] <jrwren> i'm just too stpuid to ever JS.
[14:44] <cmaloney> jrwren: bar = {}
[14:44] <cmaloney> jrwren: bar[foo[0]] = foo[1]
[14:44] <cmaloney> (stack overflow)
[14:44] <cmaloney> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4215737/convert-array-to-object
[14:45] <jrwren> wow. i'm dumb.
[14:46] <cmaloney> Nah, you're doing something that I thought you could do
[14:46] <cmaloney> but apparently the syntax isn't there for it
[14:47] <jrwren> now how to do the same thing here: hash.substring(1).split('&').map( p => p.split('=') )//.reduce( (t,n) => Object.assign(t,{ n[0]: n[1] }),{})
[14:48] <cmaloney> rewrite it in Python
[14:48] <cmaloney> ;)
[14:48] <jrwren> i wish.
[14:48] <cmaloney> I find JavaScript syntax rather impenetrable when folks try to be clever
[14:48] <jrwren> i'd be done already if it were asm, I feel.
[14:49] <cmaloney> And that's coming from someone who used to make money doing Perl
[14:49] <jrwren> zomg, it works. thank cmaloney
[14:49] <jrwren> shit = hash.substring(1).split('&').map( p => p.split('=') ).reduce( (t,n) => { t[n[0]]=n[1]; return t; } ,{});
[14:49] <cmaloney> jrwren: Woo hoo!
[14:50] <jrwren> dude, me too. I think i've still written more perl than js, even though I haven't written perl in 11 yrs.
[14:50] <cmaloney> I still have NFC what that does. :)
[14:50] <jrwren> it turns a & separated list of pairs sparated by = into a dictionary.
[14:50] <cmaloney> It looks like it's doing URL hashing but I'm just going off of keywords
[14:50] <cmaloney> Ah
[14:50] <jrwren> blah=foo&bar=baz becomes {blah:"foo", "bar":"baz"}
[14:51] <jrwren> its a damn shame it isn't cleaner still.
[14:51] <cmaloney> right
[14:53] <brousch> Seems like there should be a lib for that
[14:53] <brousch> url unmangling
[15:01] <jrwren> JS has no stdlib.
[15:01] <jrwren> i hate npm so I refuse to pull modules
[15:01] <jrwren> and... you just asked for a lib for 1 line of code.
[15:19] <brousch> Welcome to JS
[15:20] <jrwren> thank you for your kindness. I decline the welcome. I'd rather not enter or join.
[15:32] <greg-g> hahaha
[15:32] <cmaloney> heh
[15:32] <cmaloney> to be fair, that one line of code should be a lib. ;)
[15:33] <cmaloney> but because JavaScript is a write-only language anyway (JavaScript minification anyone?) it makes sense to just chain a bunch of functions together
[15:42] <jrwren> i disagree strongly.
[15:42] <jrwren> it should be in the JS stdlib, one that all browsers ship, but if not that, then I don't want it as a 3rd party lib.
[16:05] <brousch> Good luck making that happen
[16:07] <jrwren> it never will.
[16:08] <jrwren> but it won't matter because node stdlib might get something and then node will compile to webasm and you'll never have a clue what is executing on your machine, just like now, only more so.
[16:09] <brousch> I miss jquery
[16:11] <cmaloney> jquery is still out there
[16:11] <cmaloney> but now we have about 15 other layers on top of it
[16:12] <cmaloney> we're making it so our abstractions have abstracted abstractions on abstractions
[16:13] <greg-g> every problem can be solved with another layer of abstraction
[16:15] <jrwren> jquery select is built into the browser now!
[16:25] <jrwren> it turns out it is built into the browser.
[16:26] <jrwren> x = new URLSearchParams(stringwithampersandandequals) ; x.get("foo") -> bar
[16:41] <cmaloney> Hah, that's awesome


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[09:57] <Unit193> bluesabre: So I switched the netbook to xfce4-screensaver, it does what I want it to.  Only downside I can comment on is the duration it takes for the lockscreen to pop up. :)
[10:06] <ondondil> Hey guys, I just wanted to ask if you consider providing greybird theme snap? Right now snap apps look out of place on Xubuntu, with different cursor and gtk theme. I know some of you are not very enthusiastic about snaps in general but now since Canonical is planning to replace Chromium deb with snap (they already did in eoan) this issue will become more apparent for the users
[10:07] <brainwash> ondondil: I thought that the theming issue was solved long ago
[10:09] <ondondil> I installed Chromium in eoan yesterday and it doesn't seem to use default system theme. It looks more like adwaita to me
[10:09] <ondondil> Also cursor changes to DMZ-black
[10:10] <brainwash> chromium uses its own theme, doesn't it?
[10:10] <Unit193> TBH Sean touches the theme stuff more than I do.
[10:11] <brainwash> and how would packing a gtk theme as snap help with that anyway?
[10:12] <brainwash> https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/use-the-system-gtk-theme/
[10:12] <ondondil> I thought that's what they did with yaru in order to solve the theming issue. I might be wrong though.
[10:12] <brainwash> what a long list of comments
[10:13] <brainwash> ondondil: a source would help
[10:16] <brainwash> probably this https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gtk-common-themes/blob/master/snap/snapcraft.yaml
[10:17] <brainwash> "A snap that exports the GTK and icon themes used on various Linux distros."
[10:18] <ondondil> Yes, I was just about to send that link
[10:19] <bluesabre> HEY ALL
[10:19] <bluesabre> oh caps
[10:19] <bluesabre> :D
[10:19] <Unit193> Oh good, now bluesabre can take care of it! :>
[10:20] <bluesabre> Related to all that, https://twitter.com/m_wimpress/status/1139376489445486594
[10:21] <bluesabre> basically, if we add greybird to gtk-common-themes, it will just work
[10:21] <brainwash> easy
[10:21] <brainwash> and elementary-xfce
[10:21] <brainwash> for icons
[10:22] <bluesabre> Just haven't had the time to make it happen... but if one of you want to experiment with it, please do :)
[10:22] <bluesabre> brainwash: yup
[10:22] <brainwash> I removed snap
[10:22] <brainwash> don't plan on installing it again :)
[10:22] <bluesabre> :)
[10:22] <Unit193> I don't have anything snappy either.
[10:23] <bluesabre> I use it for spotify, since the dependencies for that in ubuntu go away every dev cycle
[10:23] <Unit193> 0_o
[10:23] <bluesabre> and because my laptop is a fire hazard when running too many things in the browser
[10:24] <bluesabre> it does the job... with lots of space, but at least apps load faster than they used to :D
[10:25] <ondondil> Chromium is quite popular and it's going to be available only as a snap https://www.linuxuprising.com/2019/06/ubuntu-devs-testing-chromium-browser.html
[10:26] <bluesabre> Unit193: glad to hear the screensaver is working for you... we try to land a few performance improvements with each release :)
[10:27] <bluesabre> ondondil: yeah, fair point. In general, I want to improve snaps in Xubuntu because we can and some folks are certainly using them.
[10:28] <bluesabre> but as you know, we don't exactly have an army of contributors ;)
[10:31] <Unit193> And I think you're the only one that has any snap background.
[10:35] <ondondil> Yeah, I know and I'm thankful for what you do. I hope I'll be able to contribute to Xubuntu or Xfce one day but as of now I don't think I have enough programming experience to dive into this project
[10:35] <Unit193> If it helps, I only think I'm a programmer when I'm really tired.
[10:36] <ondondil> I just wanted to point that issue in case you were to busy to notice the transition to snap that Canonical is pushing ;-)
[10:36] <bluesabre> ondondil: thanks :)
[10:37] <bluesabre> I feel like it's basically a larger-scale test. chromium isn't default in any of the flavors, but has wide popularity, so it's an opportunity to get more folks using/testing snaps
[10:41] <Unit193> Kind of figured they got tired of maintaining two large and fast releasing browsers, so are dropping the unseeded one. :3


[00:20] <abdelhay> hi
[10:48] <My> Hello
[10:51] <M_> Hello
[10:53] <M_> Hello
[10:54] <M_> User
[10:56] <M_> I need help
[11:13] <jagansls> help
[11:13] <jagansls> how to share the folders in lubuntu systems to lubuntu systems
[11:14] <jagansls> ??
[11:26] <My> Hello
[11:43] <My> Hello
[11:47] <My> Hello
[11:55] <My> Hello
[13:42] <Newtolinux> Hi, i havé à fair-play new computerand tried ont a lot ouf district.  They all Word  fine  but witz m'y computer  il should Beverly fait but i fond  that ils slow comparée tomwindows 7 on thé samedi pic.  Yesterday i installée  lubuntu and it's wormiens fine but stil slow.  I looked around for Andy cloués and tries diferrent thons .  A. CAN Antoine
[13:42] <Newtolinux>  Hell me troubleshootmmy issues?
[13:43] <Newtolinux> god, aut correct did mess m'y sentences
[13:45] <Newtolinux> Hop do i Knowles il someone si online
[13:46] <Newtolinux> thanks ill vous on m'y pc
[14:00] <Nitin_> Hello there i have install lubuntu and i have tplink wireless usb But wifi not connecting
[14:01] <Nitin_> can anybody help me please??????
[14:01] <Nitin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24823476/
[14:55] <M_> Hello
[15:02] <M_> Hello
[15:06] <redwolf> hello M_
[15:06] <M_> I need help
[15:07] <redwolf> about what?
[15:08] <M_> I just installed lubuntu and when I start this shows http://imgur.com/a/qlDE4
[15:10] <redwolf> I guess your disk is fine
[15:10] <M_> Yes
[15:10] <redwolf> or maybe needs a little repair: https://askubuntu.com/questions/781315/ubuntu16-04-boots-into-initramfs
[15:11] <redwolf> or it could be a misconfigured grub. did you install grub on /dev/sda or /dev/sda1? (assuming A is your target disk)
[15:13] <redwolf> if that was the case you would need to repeat the installation and ensure you install grub on the primary disk
[15:14] <M_> I already looked at that post it did not work. Grub is on /dev/sda1
[15:15] <redwolf> have you tried to install grub on /dev/sda?
[15:15] <redwolf> not sda1
[15:17] <M_> I just let it create the partitions for me. Don't know how to do that
[15:17] <redwolf> partitioning?
[15:18] <redwolf> this is a nice visual guide: https://askubuntu.com/questions/343268/how-to-use-manual-partitioning-during-installation
[15:19] <redwolf> I highly recommend having a partition alone for the system mounted as "/" and another one "for you" mounted as "/home"
[15:20] <redwolf> but automatic mode usually works fine. that must've been a disk reading/writing error
[15:27] <M_> I use encryption mode so it goes auto. Should I setup partitions before I install or just let auto
[15:28] <redwolf> I did encryption once and it failed too (LVM). the second time it worked
[15:29] <redwolf> but yes, you can manually partition using LVM volumes and/or encryption
[15:33] <M_> I had errors in first install and did workaround's. Now I'm getting
[15:34] <M_> Them again so I will tell you them unsafe swap space detected
[15:35] <redwolf> that's very very weird
[15:35] <redwolf> why don't you erase everything with the partitioning tool and start over in automatic mode?
[15:36] <redwolf> also ensure you have legacy / safe boot / efi things fixed
[15:36] <redwolf> is it a recent computer?
[15:37] <redwolf> and sorry to insist, but be sure you install grub on /dev/sda not /dev/sda1
[15:37] <M_> I deleted all partitions it says unallocated. Bios stuff is fine. Not a recent computer laptop I got in 2013
[15:39] <redwolf> it should work
[15:42] <M_> I only get the error's when trying to install with encryption. Normal insall works so far
[15:43] <redwolf> I never saw that :D
[15:43] <redwolf> I'm not sure what to say, sorry
[15:43] <redwolf> have you reported / asked in askubuntu.com?
[15:43] <M_> No
[15:44] <redwolf> please, try. you'll find a user that had the same problem for sure
[15:44] <M_> OK thanks for helping
[15:44] <redwolf> I'm sorry I couldn't be helpful
[15:45] <redwolf> oh, bye :|
[16:01] <n-iCe> hello, how do I determinate if a laptops needs a 64 or 32bits disk
[16:03] <redwolf> what year is it from?
[16:04] <redwolf> also, n-iCe, has it an existing Linux installation?
[16:05] <redwolf> in that case the command "uname -i" will tell you
[16:05] <n-iCe> no windows, is my mothers laptop
[16:05] <n-iCe> is old
[16:05] <n-iCe> no idea how much, but old
[16:05] <n-iCe> D620 latitude
[16:05] <redwolf> what windows version?
[16:06] <n-iCe> xp
[16:06] <n-iCe> Intel Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz
[16:06] <redwolf> so please, click on Start and Run. then type "sysdm.cpl"
[16:06] <n-iCe> im there
[16:07] <redwolf> Click the General tab
[16:07] <n-iCe> done
[16:08] <redwolf> you can either read "Windows XP Professional Version" or "Windows XP Professional x64 Edition Version"
[16:08] <n-iCe> so 32
[16:08] <redwolf> alternatively, you can run "winmsd.exe". that gives you a system summary
[16:08] <n-iCe> don't see any 64bits
[16:08] <n-iCe> but the processor is 32 or 64bits?
[16:08] <n-iCe> don't care about the os
[16:08] <redwolf> you're right
[16:08] <redwolf> the system is 32 thoufh
[16:08] <redwolf> *tough
[16:09] <n-iCe> 1GB ram
[16:09] <n-iCe> should lubuntu run well?
[16:09] <redwolf> yes
[16:09] <n-iCe> or should I go with something like puppylinux
[16:09] <redwolf> here's the info from Intel itself: https://ark.intel.com/products/27235/Intel-Core-Duo-Processor-T2400-2M-Cache-1_83-GHz-667-MHz-FSB
[16:09] <redwolf> 32 bits
[16:10] <redwolf> we ran Lubuntu on systems shipped with 128Mb of RAM :)
[16:11] <redwolf> so go to http://lubuntu.me and use the "Desktop 32-bit" option
[16:11] <n-iCe> thanks
[16:12] <redwolf> you're welcome :)
[16:12] <n-iCe> with 1gb ram
[16:12] <n-iCe> chrome should not work well right
[16:12] <redwolf> not really. chrome is a bit hungry
[16:12] <n-iCe> yeah
[16:13] <n-iCe> sadly I need it because of my chromecast lol
[16:13] <redwolf> ah I see
[16:13] <n-iCe> I sold my laptop, and bought this old laptop :D
[16:13] <n-iCe> Mine was too much for me
[16:13] <n-iCe> i7 12ram ssd you know
[16:13] <redwolf> not many tabs open at once, then
[16:13] <n-iCe> was not using it at all
[16:13] <n-iCe> redwolf: ok
[16:13] <redwolf> that's a nice machine
[16:13] <n-iCe> how about swap, does it actually work well?
[16:13] <redwolf> yes for limited systems
[16:13] <n-iCe> heard ubuntu changed mind and moved to swap file?
[16:14] <redwolf> my laptop is a recent one and I don't use. (tried but I don't see any difference)
[16:14] <redwolf> they changed systemd
[16:14] <n-iCe> yeah, I actually was thinking to use puppy, but community seems dead
[16:14] <n-iCe> ll
[16:14] <n-iCe> lol
[16:14] <redwolf> puppy seems pretty inactive, yes
[16:15] <redwolf> I liked the GrafPup version. abandoned now
[16:15] <redwolf> anyway, if you don't install huge apps and don't use shadows and effects, your laptop will run fine
[16:17] <n-iCe> ok
[16:17] <n-iCe> let me find the torrent iso
[16:18] <n-iCe> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/17.04/release/lubuntu-17.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[16:18] <n-iCe> that's the one, right
[16:18] <redwolf> it's in the same button, right side ;)
[16:18] <redwolf> http://lubuntu.me
[16:19] <n-iCe> yeah
[16:19] <n-iCe> same link
[16:19] <n-iCe> right
[16:19] <redwolf> :)
[16:19] <n-iCe> ok ok
[16:19] <n-iCe> so let's try lubuntu
[16:19] <n-iCe> :D
[16:19] <redwolf> yayy!
[16:20] <n-iCe> where are you from?
[16:20] <redwolf> enjoy it! and thank you for choosing us
[16:20] <n-iCe> thanks to you guys
[16:20] <redwolf> that's hard to answer, but let's say I'm British
[16:20] <n-iCe> ok!
[16:20] <n-iCe> I'm Mexican
[16:20] <n-iCe> Mexico City, here, by the way, site says you guys are leaving lxde?
[16:20] <redwolf> pues gracias por elegir Lubuntu! :)
[16:20] <redwolf> yes, we're moving to LXQt
[16:21] <n-iCe> will it be lighter?
[16:21] <n-iCe> more lightwieght?
[16:21] <n-iCe> weight
[16:21] <n-iCe> or heavier
[16:21] <n-iCe> or no idea, lol
[16:21] <redwolf> that's what we hope. the core guys are working hard on that. for now it's as light as LXDE version
[16:21] <n-iCe> awesome
[16:22] <redwolf> but not so stable though
[16:22] <n-iCe> iso is huge, 900MB
[16:22] <n-iCe> puppy is 250MB
[16:22] <redwolf> yes, I'm sorry about that. ISOs are ovesized lately. we can't do much about it.
[16:22] <n-iCe> but puppy seems to be old, not sure they keep updating it
[16:22] <n-iCe> is ok, I have a good internet bandwith
[16:23] <redwolf> no. it's not maintained anymore
[16:23] <n-iCe> width
[16:23] <n-iCe> 70% already
[16:23] <redwolf> yeah, the problem is it no longer fits on a CD
[16:23] <n-iCe> let me grab a usb flash drive
[16:23] <redwolf> 70%? O.O
[16:24] <n-iCe> got a 32gb usb
[16:24] <redwolf> plenty enough :)
[16:24] <n-iCe> let's format it, read aout rufus to make it bootable
[16:24] <n-iCe> about
[16:24] <n-iCe> hope I can get to life this old laptop
[16:25] <n-iCe> was really, really cheap
[16:25] <n-iCe> and in a very good shape for the year
[16:25] <n-iCe> the only thing, is battery is not working for some reason
[16:25] <n-iCe> needs to be connected to home power to work
[16:25] <n-iCe> not sure I can get a new battery
[16:25] <n-iCe> no idea if they still exist lol
[16:25] <redwolf> you can use https://etcher.io too
[16:25] <n-iCe> ok done
[16:25] <n-iCe> iso is downloaded
[16:29] <n-iCe> done
[16:30] <redwolf> nice! enjoy it
[16:30] <n-iCe> uploading to usb
[16:30] <n-iCe> formatting
[16:30] <n-iCe> and how old are you?
[16:31] <redwolf> 42
[16:31] <n-iCe> im 29, today turned 29
[16:31] <n-iCe> :D
[16:31] <redwolf> congratulations! :)
[16:31] <redwolf> okies, gotta go. enjoy your laptop
[16:32] <redwolf> o/
[16:32] <n-iCe> thank you! good night for you!
[16:57] <n-iCe> Hi
[17:02] <n-iCe> Hi xangua
[17:03] <xangua> Hi n-iCe
[17:04] <n-iCe> How arw you
[17:04] <n-iCe> Im back in lubuntu
[17:04] <n-iCe> Actually moving files to my usb
[17:10] <xangua> I just sent a machine to repair, maybe put Lubuntu or xubuntu if still works
[17:13] <n-iCe> What happened to it
[18:12] <n-iCe> Dammit
[18:12] <n-iCe> Rufus is taking so long
[18:12] <n-iCe> In this machine
[18:12] <n-iCe> 1:25hrs to make a usb bootable
[18:13] <n-iCe> Wtf
[18:55] <xangua> n-iCe: the wind made a glass of water drop next to it


[11:12] <cyphase> (Auto Message) Hey everyone. I'm going to be offline for about 6 days since I'm moving. Since my blog is hosted in my room, it's going to be offline as well. Just to let you know.


[01:42] <vorlon> Laney, juliank: was there a known issue that was causing arm64 autopkgtests to take longer?  I can't see anything now that would cause them to be slow
[07:11] <ginggs> would someone please kick the can along?  '+force-badtest r-cran-rnexml/2.3.0-1/arm64 r-cran-rnexml/2.3.0-1/s390x' in ubuntu-release - indirect test dep on r-cran-v8, not available on these archs
[08:58] <apw> ginggs, done
[09:01] <Laney> vorlon: not known by me
[09:11] <ginggs> apw: thanks!
[09:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: duplicity (bionic-proposed/main) [0.7.17-0ubuntu1 => 0.7.17-0ubuntu1.1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[09:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ceph (bionic-proposed/main) [12.2.8-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 12.2.8-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[09:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cogl (bionic-proposed/main) [1.22.2-3 => 1.22.2-3ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[11:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: zfs-linux (xenial-proposed/main) [<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu26 => <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu27] (no packageset)
[11:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted zfs-linux [source] (xenial-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu27]
[12:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libdbusmenu (bionic-proposed/main) [16.04.1+18.04.20171206-0ubuntu1 => 16.04.1+18.04.20171206-0ubuntu2] (ubuntu-desktop)
[13:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: pygobject (bionic-proposed/main) [3.26.1-2 => 3.26.1-2ubuntu1] (core)
[13:26] <ginggs> someone please 'force-badtest xtensor/0.10.11-1/i386' - FP precision errors, regressed in release
[14:38] <LocutusOfBorg> dear AA, is it possible to remove src:mariadb-10.1 from the archive?
[14:38] <LocutusOfBorg> it should be, but I prefer to ask in case my reverse-depends failed
[14:38] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, doko ^^
[14:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [ppc64el] (disco-proposed/main) [4.19.0-12.13] (core, kernel)
[14:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (disco-proposed/main) [4.19.0-12.13] (core, kernel)
[14:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ceph (cosmic-proposed/main) [13.2.1+dfsg1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 13.2.4+dfsg1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[15:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (disco-proposed) [4.19.0-12.13]
[15:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [ppc64el] (disco-proposed) [4.19.0-12.13]
[15:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted unity-scope-gnote [source] (disco-proposed) [0.1+13.10.20130723-0ubuntu2]
[15:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: unity-scope-gnote [amd64] (disco-proposed/universe) [0.1+13.10.20130723-0ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[15:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: unity-control-center (cosmic-proposed/universe) [15.04.0+18.04.20180216-0ubuntu1 => 15.04.0+18.10.20190107-0ubuntu1] (mythbuntu, ubuntukylin) (sync)
[16:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted unity-scope-gnote [amd64] (disco-proposed) [0.1+13.10.20130723-0ubuntu2]
[16:18] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: well, reverse-depends is being unhelpful on account of old versions of arch: all packages being kept around in the archive.   But the one thing I do see is tcl8.6-tdbc-mysql depends libmariadbclient18 and for some reason prefers it over libmysqlclient20 (the one in main), maybe that should get a sourceful fix to the ordering
[16:24] <rbasak> I noticed tcl8.6-tdbc-mysql for other reasons the other day (upcoming transition). I didn't notice the ordering.
[16:24] <rbasak> I assume it's using dlopen or similar.
[16:25] <rbasak> Agree with the ordering. We'll have to maintain an Ubuntu delta on it. Unless we can get a dpkg-vendor based thing in Debian landed.
[16:25] <rbasak> (which would be ugly due to needing to hack the control file)
[16:26] <rbasak> Another way might be to have src:mysql-defaults provide a new default- package (if there isn't one already) and have tcl8.6-tdbc-mysql use that.
[17:05] <LocutusOfBorg> rbasak, can I leave it to you?
[17:05] <LocutusOfBorg> I mean, removing old mariadb
[17:06] <rbasak> LocutusOfBorg: could you just file a removal bug for AAs?
[17:06] <rbasak> That's the normal process.
[17:06] <rbasak> I was leaving mariadb-10.3 alone.
[17:07] <rbasak> Because I didn't want to commit to the work of finishing it off right now.
[17:07] <rbasak> If you synced it, then please finish it :)
[17:07] <LocutusOfBorg> sure
[17:07] <LocutusOfBorg> but I don't understand what is the tdbc problem
[17:08] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm happy to fix it
[17:08] <LocutusOfBorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mariadb-10.1/+bug/1813803
[17:08] <rbasak> My understanding of the tdbc problem is that it's (mostly) unrelated to MariaDB 10.1->10.3.
[17:08] <rbasak> So don't worry about that part, unless I'm wrong.
[17:09] <LocutusOfBorg> so, wrt my removal bug there is nothing preventing it from disappearing?
[17:09] <rbasak> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), tcl8.6, tcl8.6-tdbc (>= 1.0.5), libmariadbclient18 | libmysqlclient18 | libmysqlclient20
[17:09] <rbasak> libmysqlclient20 is in the archive right now.
[17:09] <LocutusOfBorg> ack
[17:09] <rbasak> And I'll take care of adding libmysqlclient21 to that list as needed.
[17:09] <rbasak> So I don't think it blocks removal.
[17:10] <LocutusOfBorg> damn it was already removed :/ good AA is good
[17:10] <rbasak> :)
[17:10] <LocutusOfBorg> and #1711949 is fixed now
[17:26] <roaksoax> win 2
[17:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libunistring (bionic-proposed/main) [0.9.9-0ubuntu1 => 0.9.10-1ubuntu0.1] (core)
[18:17] <LocutusOfBorg> apw, ^^ you usually help me with vbox
[18:17] <LocutusOfBorg> please remove virtualbox-qt and virtualbox from disco/i386 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=920801 thanks!
[18:17] <LocutusOfBorg> I don't know if the ext-pack testsuite will need an hint or not... meh
[20:52] <apw> LocutusOfBorg, ack
[21:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-init (cosmic-proposed/main) [18.4-7-g4652b196-0ubuntu1 => 18.5-21-g8ee294d5-0ubuntu1~18.10.1] (edubuntu, ubuntu-cloud, ubuntu-server)
[21:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-init (bionic-proposed/main) [18.4-0ubuntu1~18.04.1 => 18.5-21-g8ee294d5-0ubuntu1~18.04.1] (edubuntu, ubuntu-cloud, ubuntu-server)
[21:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-init (xenial-proposed/main) [18.4-0ubuntu1~16.04.2 => 18.5-21-g8ee294d5-0ubuntu1~16.04.1] (edubuntu, ubuntu-cloud, ubuntu-server)
[22:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: systemd (cosmic-proposed/main) [239-7ubuntu10.6 => 239-7ubuntu10.7] (core)
[22:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: systemd (bionic-proposed/main) [237-3ubuntu10.11 => 237-3ubuntu10.12] (core)
[22:11] <ddstreet> bdmurray if you're sru point person today, and you have a chance, would be great to get those systemd uploads for b/c approved today, they are rather urgent
[22:38] <doko> why do we have so many /unknown test failures on arm64?
[22:39] <vorlon> I don't know; but the bigger issue is that britney is mis-collecting the test results and treating "unknown" as a later version than any real version
[23:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: golang-1.6 (trusty-security/universe) [1.6-0ubuntu1~14.04 => 1.6-0ubuntu1~14.04] (no packageset) (sync)
[23:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted golang-1.6 [sync] (trusty-security) [1.6-0ubuntu1~14.04]


[01:20] <ubptgbot> Bagyo was added by: Bagyo
 I wish the ubports installer can extract and restore `userdata`  across devices...I wonder if that's technically possible
[05:58] <ubptgbot> f was added by: f
[06:12] <ubptgbot> hackmelove was added by: hackmelove
[06:16] <ubptgbot> hackmelove was added by: hackmelove
 Hi friends.. My old mobile Panasonic eluga Ray Max.. Is it possible to replace my os with.. Ubuntu touch..
 Right now so many commands not working while I'm trying to configure Ubuntu touch in my latest Ubuntu 20.04 LTS please help me..
 @hackmelove [Hi friends.. My old mobile Panasonic eluga Ray Max.. Is it possible to replace m …], It is not currently a supported device.  You would need to port it yourself.  Info at http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
 @TotalSonic [It is not currently a supported device.  You would need to port it yourself.  In …], Thank you Brother ... i know it's not currently supported device but is it possible thru port it myself..?
 @hackmelove [Thank you Brother ... i know it's not currently supported device but is it possi …], It seems it should be with the GSI - but no guarantees - https://www.xda-developers.com/ubports-gsi-brings-ubuntu-touch-to-any-project-treble-supported-android-device/
 You Need to port HALIUM
 Ok Thank you i will Try...
 Hey! Is there any way to get current device location in terminal?
 @mrcyjanek [Hey! Is there any way to get current device location in terminal?], Maybe geoclue?
 @ItsMeShouko [Maybe geoclue?], Yeah.. I'll look in docs for that
 Got teleports to work
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/pXZ2sIb0.webp
 Since I've switched to dev channel I can't use Webber (it crashes) and webapp creator (it says invalid .click file every time). Any suggestions?
 Works ok here...
 I think webber is currently broken in dev due to the update of qtwebengine.
 @Edegardo [Since I've switched to dev channel I can't use Webber (it crashes) and webapp cr …], I suggest you switch to stale for using Webber and switching back after. That is what I did.
[11:16] <ubptgbot> ippokratis was added by: ippokratis
[11:40] <ubptgbot> ramon40 was added by: ramon40
 @ArubIslander [I suggest you switch to stale for using Webber and switching back after. That is …], Thanks 👍
 @Danfro [I think webber is currently broken in dev due to the update of qtwebengine.], Thanks 👍
 adding Google accounts still isn't working?  no workaround?
 @Javacookies [adding Google accounts still isn't working?  no workaround?], It worked for me on gsi after I installed an account click package from this group, I also had to reboot
 @Javacookies [adding Google accounts still isn't working?  no workaround?], https://t.me/ubports/289819
 account click? never heard of it.
 @Javacookies [account click? never heard of it.], Oh wait, it was deb
 I see, I wonder if it's a quick hack or  something that can be fixed properly...I'm on devel and still won't let me login. Anyway, I guess it's time to ditch google on my phone 😄
 Google free future!
 Just bring back Ubuntu One
 As it was not as it is
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 Oh my
 @dopefish [<reply to media>], wait what
 @kipters [wait what], Hmm?
 @dopefish [Hmm?], a) remember, no pepes in here please. b) what does debian running on a random phone have to do with UT?
 @dohbee [a) remember, no pepes in here please. b) what does debian running on a random ph …], I didn’t realize I needed to explain sharing a Debian based phone in a room about a Debian based OS, lol.
 @dohbee [a) remember, no pepes in here please. b) what does debian running on a random ph …], Why a) ?
 Ubuntu Touch isnt debian really
 I messed up ota trying to install chromium lol
 Ubuntu Touch isnt linux really :D … (joke)
 @dopefish [I didn’t realize I needed to explain sharing a Debian based phone in a room abou …], it would have been fine if you were running UT on your banana phone 😝 … this should be in OT
 banana phone ?
 I think that's the Nokia 8110 AKA Banana phone though that one's the black version 😅
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 @jedi2light [Why a) ?], officially is now a form of hate speach here for some reason, so many are sensitive too it
 Pepe has been recognized by certain organizations as a racist symbol used primarily by white nationalists, hence it's unwelcome here. It's not just a meme anymore.
 Help I just did the swipe from the right thing on Android and archived half my chats lmao
 Oh shit
 "why isn't it working, oh it's my g7 play"
 Nearly did it again
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 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/fRZLu7D6.png welcome to the club buddy
 =D
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 Head start for samsung note 9 or redmi note 4 ?
 no installer for redmi 4x 😕
 @liberacuriser [<reply to media>], Yeeeah boi
 @jedi2light [<reply to media>], Lol
 Hay
 xperia x's speaker is loud! I feel like everyone in the house will wake up with my alarms and notifications 😂
 @Javacookies [xperia x's speaker is loud! I feel like everyone in the house will wake up with …], uVolMan is your friend. 😁
 Calls are still sometimes loud as if speakers are on, without being on. Not all calls though.
 you mean while in a call? haven't calls yet
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 @Javacookies [xperia x's speaker is loud! I feel like everyone in the house will wake up with …], ah, it is really loud. Is the volume up\down working in calls for you?
 Hey there! I have an server accessible over vpn (<IP_ADDRESS> ip) with things like ssh, sftp and ftp, I'd like to know if there is a way to mount it inyo my filesystem on phone and access them from files app.
 I can just say to all people being proud to boot debian on the phone, if you ant to have a wifi-only device w/o camera etc. then yes, its feasable. But I need a phone, so unless Modem and Camera work this is not an option for me. Its worth a screenshot but not much more I would say
 @mrcyjanek [Hey there! I have an server accessible over vpn (<IP_ADDRESS> ip) with things like s …], i think not currently.
 @wayneTBT [ah, it is really loud. Is the volume up\down working in calls for you?], haven't tried calls yet
 @wayneTBT [ah, it is really loud. Is the volume up\down working in calls for you?], Seems not to work here during a call. Neither to reduce nor to raise volumen.
 does it work on other devices? I don't think I ever tried that
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[19:51] <ubptgbot> <Nikhil Anand> Can someone help me with compilation of Halium os for Lenovo Vibe k4 note
 @Nikhil Anand [Can someone help me with compilation of Halium os for Lenovo Vibe k4 note], @halium
 @Javacookies [does it work on other devices? I don't think I ever tried that], I am quite sure it worked on my E5.
 @dohbee [i think not currently.], :c okay
[20:26] <Letterus> hello everyone
 Hey
 Is there a flashable .zip of Ubuntu touch I can sideliad into TWRP?
[20:37] <Letterus> just a question from an interested fan: did you ever consider supporting iOS/Cocoa Touch apps with Ubuntu Touch? There is an Objective C runtime provided by the GNUstep project and there are implementation for at least some parts of UIKit provided by Microsoft (MIT license): https://github.com/microsoft/WinObjC/tree/develop/Frameworks/UIKit. I found that idea quite exciting. would be eager to know if ppl here were talking about it.
 @OVSCADMIN [Is there a flashable .zip of Ubuntu touch I can sideliad into TWRP?], No
 @amyosx [No], Can I force an install of another devices img from the ubports installer?
 @OVSCADMIN [Can I force an install of another devices img from the ubports installer?], No
 Don't try
[20:46] <Letterus> well, looks like the Microsoft implementation of UIKit relies on winrt heavily. doesn’t look too portable. nevermind…
 @amyosx [Don't try], Its an old Samsung Galaxy a5 2017 model which isn't my daily driver so yes I will try isn't there any other phone that is supported that has similar specs lol I have already successfully flashed /e/ to it but can't get past the account setup part so can you just send me the .zip in here or I will scourer your github
[20:47] <ubptgbot>  until I find it or a similar spec'd device!
 @OVSCADMIN [Its an old Samsung Galaxy a5 2017 model which isn't my daily driver so yes I wil …], My daily driver is a Samsung Galaxy s9
 Unless ubports follows in the footsteps of postmarket os ...
 Port yourself
 docs.halium.org
 @Letterus [just a question from an interested fan: did you ever consider supporting iOS/Coc …], Microsoft basically abandoned that project years ago because it was too much work to keep up with UIKit
 @OVSCADMIN [Is there a flashable .zip of Ubuntu touch I can sideliad into TWRP?], Check out the Halium group if you're dedicated enough. https://t.me/halium … Halium is like the bridge which allows ubports to run on an Android device.  … You'll need to patch your kernel to work with Halium, then you can flash the GSI of ubports, but don't e
[22:48] <ubptgbot> xpect everything to work, most things won't. Your best bet would be to see if there are any devices from your manufacturer with the same chipset which already have Halium support and adapting it to work with your device
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