[08:24] <senectus> When I upgraded to feisty, it tells me it DID upgrade Firefox but if I do a Help -> About is says I'm still using 1.5... any reasons why?
[08:24] <Snowman> orbin: what I used to see was a list of lans, signal strengths, etc.
[08:24] <Toma-> mario_: yep
[08:24] <Bradford> menu.lst has... a bunch of stuff, what exactly do I change? Where can I read more about it, do you know???
[08:24] <Snowman> orbin: however I couldn't connect to them then.  when I manually configured I lost that list, but gained the internet connection. :|
[08:24] <mydnaismine> senectus, jus install it urself
[08:24] <mario_> toma-, what do you see there (like asking to a magician)
[08:24] <rummik> why don't i have inetd or xinetd?
[08:24] <thebillywayne> boy.  I have to choose between my screen's best resolution and being able to playback video.  What a world.
[08:24] <godlygeek> jnc: I swear I'll shut up if someone can tell me a way to make gnome automatically suspend when battery is low.  :)
[08:24] <mraudiofreak> would anyone be able to help me through a mythtv, mysql problem?
[08:24] <Gerro> [Meta] : oh sorry didn't see the reference about connection lag
[08:24] <Toma-> mario_: i see 2 lots of text, and mot much errors
[08:25] <Toma-> *not
[08:25] <user_> thebillywayne: is the nVidia driver intended for 3D support?, I just need correct 2D resolution
[08:25] <[Meta] > godlygeek: Forgot to mention, not old enough to marry you. Sorry. ;)
[08:25] <jnc> godlygeek: the power preference app, I think
[08:25] <senectus> mydnaismine: but the package manager says it IS installed?!
[08:25] <mario_> toma-. what do you suggest?
[08:25] <thebillywayne> user_, not necessarily for 3D support only.  it's just the best driver to use, AFAIK.
[08:25] <B123> anone know ho wto help me
[08:25] <jnc> godlygeek: well I had trouble with some permissions though
[08:25] <mydnaismine> reinstall,remove n put it in again
[08:25] <godlygeek> jnc: Doesn't seem to mention a level at which to shutdown, or commands to run when low...
[08:25] <longgia2001> I'm trying to make the Brother MFC7820N working on Feisty. I follow the instructions at Brother website, but not success. As follow:
[08:25] <longgia2001> $umount /proc/bus/usb
[08:25] <longgia2001> umount: it seems /proc/bus/usb is mounted multiple times
[08:25] <jnc> godlygeek: it would signal the command, and the command would fail to run
[08:26] <rummik> should i install inetd?
[08:26] <[Meta] > godlygeek: Also the link you sent to the tutorial doesn't load.
[08:26] <longgia2001> Can anyone privide me an advice
[08:26] <thebillywayne> user_, try System > Admin' > Restricted Drivers Manager
[08:26] <godlygeek> [Meta] : Hey, I'm barely 21!  You can't be THAT far off.
[08:26] <orbin> Snowman: with right-click?  you don't see this: http://img148.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=th_46333_screen_122_808lo.jpg ?
[08:26] <user_> thebillywayne: I'll try installing it then
[08:26] <Toma-> mario_: look through your log files for errors about GLX, nvidia and so on
[08:26] <[Meta] > godlygeek: Can't I? *was born in '91*
[08:26] <jnc> [Meta] : if you're 27, it kills my theory on females and post-internet computer useage
[08:26] <thebillywayne> user_, you'll probably be glad you did.  :-)  Remember, you've got a workable xorg.conf stored in xorg.conf.backup, in case you need it.  :-)
[08:27] <[Meta] > I'm 15. :P Turning 16.
[08:27] <mrigns_> there are no gurls in the interweb
[08:27] <mario_> toma-, where can I find that?
[08:27] <Snowman> orbin: nope, because I'm using knetworkmanager.  different applet.
[08:27] <[Meta] > So I've heard, mrigns_
[08:27] <airtonix> thie means is now need two more amoedba cells to pass off as a human now? geesh
[08:27] <Toma-> mario_: /var/log
[08:27] <godlygeek> [Meta] : It works for me... do you have the caps right on the URL?  It's probably running off a (case sensitive) unix server.
[08:27] <longgia2001> I'm trying to make the Brother MFC7820N (USB connection) working on Feisty. I follow the instructions at Brother website, but not success. Have you ever experienced this.  Is there any advice
[08:27] <[Meta] > I copy pasted what you sent
[08:27] <jnc> [Meta] : I wish my kid sister had an interest in something other than myspace.  kudos to you
[08:27] <Toma-> mario_: namely Xorg.0.log (look for lines that start with (EE)) and the end part of dmesg
[08:28] <user_> thebillywayne: I appreaciate all your help
[08:28] <[Meta] > jnc: I don't even have a MySpace. :)
[08:28] <Bradford> thebillwayne, menu.lst has... a bunch of stuff, what exactly do I change? Where can I read more about it, do you know???
[08:28] <rummik> should i install inetd?
[08:28] <user_> thebillywayne: going to restart, be back in a minute
[08:28] <Snowman> silly question, but what's myspace?
[08:28] <thebillywayne> user_, no problem.  wish I could help more.
[08:28] <thebillywayne> Snowman, it's a web community.
[08:28] <[Meta] > Snowman: Networking site. I honestly can't see the point to it
[08:28] <Snowman> (I steer clear of that end of the net)
[08:28] <godlygeek> [Meta] : Wait 10 years then marry me.  :-p, it'll be less creepy when 25 and 31!
[08:28] <Snowman> [Meta] : ah, gotcha.  agreed.
[08:29] <orbin> Snowman: yeah ... what i was gonna suggest was to tweak your interfaces file.  sometimes, from what i hear - the gnome applet can conflict with the network configuration thingo, and commenting out everything except the lines referring to lo can help.
[08:29] <jnc> [Meta] : oh my god!   someone give you a golden something.  a giant ladel of achievement.   how do you resist the temptation to lolicon with the other emo's of the corn?
[08:29] <dhorn> how do I run a .sh file?
[08:29] <[Meta] > Haha, godlygeek
[08:29] <longgia2001> I'm trying to make the Brother MFC7820N working on Feisty. I follow the instructions at Brother website, but not success. Can any one to give me help?
[08:29] <godlygeek> [Meta] : Seriously, though, no idea why the link doesn't work for you...
[08:29] <Snowman> orbin: hrm...  there's no gnome on this machine at all though.
[08:29] <thebillywayne> dhorn, chmod +x it and then ./file.sh
[08:29] <godlygeek> [Meta] : But any random "shell tutorial" that you google for should give you about as much.
[08:29] <[Meta] > jnc: Haha.  :P
[08:29] <dhorn> thebillywayne, thaks
[08:29] <dhorn> thx
[08:29] <[Meta] > Okay. :)
[08:29] <rummik> is there any reason inetd doesn't exist on my system?
[08:29] <airtonix> thebillywayne: aweb community ithink not! its a group of highschool ropouts licking eachother with foul websites
[08:29] <mario_> toma-, men, there's a lot of text, should I paste bin both?
[08:30] <godlygeek> [Meta] : Then move on to the Advanced Bash Scripting Guide, because shell scripting will get you far on a linux system.  ;)
[08:30] <dhorn> thebillywayne, one more question, when I ctrl+z a process in the console, how do I either bring it back up or sto pit?
[08:30] <longgia2001> I'm trying to make the Brother MFC7820N (USB connection) working on Feisty. I follow the instructions at Brother website, but not success.
[08:30] <DanaG> Oh, and I think this of MySpace:  <BLINK>My god, pink text on purple backgrounds?  What are you thinking?  Or maybe you weren't thinking at all.....!</BLINK>
[08:30] <[Meta] > I'll try. :P
[08:30] <airtonix> DanG: exackery
[08:30] <thebillywayne> dhorn, not familiar with ctrl-z.  but you can stop any process with ctrl-c.
[08:30] <Gerro> [Meta] : if your searching for linux tutorial might want to read the documentation at www.linux.org it is easy reading and lot of info
[08:30] <Toma-> mario_: no, just look for the errors
[08:30] <[Meta] > Can't guarantee I'll understand it though, godlygeek
[08:30] <dhorn> ctrl-z hides the process
[08:30] <DanaG> At least use Facebook -- no hideous styles there.
[08:30] <jnc> [Meta] : keep the disco dancing, or the latin saying goes "In myspace emo sum"
[08:30] <Snowman> [Meta] : just remember this.  The geek shall inherit the earth once the rest realize they can't live without our tech support ;)
[08:30] <ThomasZ> hi all
[08:30] <dhorn> I don't knwo how to get it back up
[08:30] <ThomasZ> Alsa found the wrong audio card (forgot to load the module).  How do I tell alsa to search again?
[08:30] <Cosmo_> using the live CD is there away to copy a folder from one partition to another?
[08:31] <rummik> is there any reason inetd doesn't exist on my system?
[08:31] <godlygeek> [Meta] : And, as a side note, Kudos to you on running linux.  :-p, when I tried it in high school... ahh, debian sid... now, THAT was a disaster.  I could get my modem OR my sound card to work, but not with the same kernel... lmao
[08:31] <[Meta] > Indeed, Snowman. :)
[08:31] <mario_> toma-, in the xorg.o.log i found some, paste bin or here?
[08:31] <bindigoat> is ubuntu debian ?
[08:31] <Arrick> yes
[08:31] <godlygeek> bindigoat: It's based off debian, but not the same.
[08:31] <Toma-> mario how many lines is it?
[08:31] <orbin> Snowman: *shrug* i'd try it for the heck of it.
[08:31] <[Meta] > godlygeek: I thank my dad for that one. I used to watch him reinstall Windows every few months. Then I got my Ubuntu CD at an IT convention.
[08:32] <Snowman> godlygeek: when I was in high school, cd's weren't invented yet.  which made installing redhat from a stack of floppys as tall as my mini-tower somewhat annoying :D
[08:32] <airtonix> Cosmo_:  indeed there is
[08:32] <Toma-> mario_:  how many lines is it?
[08:32] <Snowman> orbin: may I msg?
[08:32] <godlygeek> Snowman: cd's were invented, but i didn't own a burner, so I had to pay the shipping.  ;)
[08:32] <mario_> toma-, nine
[08:32] <Cosmo_> airtonix: how do I go about doing it?
[08:32] <jnc> Snowman: lol @ CDs.   kids these days don't know what "Vinyl" is
[08:32] <airtonix> Cosmo_: its a simple case of mounting those parittions to existing folderss and wrinting then doing the copy from there
[08:33] <[Meta] > I know what vinyl is.
[08:33] <airtonix> Cosmo_: ahem...excuse the foul texct
[08:33] <Snowman> jnc: I still have/use some vinyl.  most of my tapes have died of old age though.
[08:33] <[Meta] > We have heaps of vinyl records in the lounge room. :)
[08:33] <thebillywayne> vinyl is what I cut.
[08:33] <rummik> is there any reason inetd doesn't exist on my system?
[08:33] <Gerro> [Meta]  IT convention? wow lucky you all the IT here are still in stone age or something
[08:33] <orbin> Snowman: sure
[08:33] <Toma-> mario_: pastebin
[08:33] <zie> anyone know a program that i can record my desktop with
[08:33] <airtonix> rummik: its not needed...maybe
[08:33] <Arrick> hi all, I am using proftpd, and I have a user named ftp in a group bassgoon, I would like to allow the user to create but not modify files, how would one do this?
[08:33] <Snowman> 8"?!?  now _THAT_ is before my time.  earliest I had was tape on my vic 20 and cbm pet, then 5.25" on my c64 and 128
[08:33] <Phylo> hi, will somene help me get my laptop on the internet?
[08:33] <jnc> 1.5...  wtf, minidisc?
[08:33] <[Meta] > Gerro: Can you reword that?
[08:33] <Arrick> its a ubuntu 6.06.1 lamp server
[08:33] <thebillywayne> !istanbul | zie
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about istanbul - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:34] <[Meta] > Yeah.
[08:34] <godlygeek> jnc: I'm quite used to linux/unix, but quite new to gnome/nautilus/metacity, usually preferring to immediately switch to using startx/fluxbox - so, on THAT note, if there were some kind of permission problems launching a suspend script for me, is there anywhere where error messages would be logged?
[08:34] <[Meta] > It's the new one. >_>
[08:34] <thebillywayne> zie, istanbul
[08:34] <[Meta] > Typo for 3 1/2"
[08:34] <airtonix> Phylo: type, specs and all please
[08:34] <[Meta] > I think...
[08:34] <zie> it records
[08:34] <jnc> godlygeek: no, that's the sad thing.
[08:34] <[Meta] > I remember the 8" floppy disks
[08:34] <thebillywayne> !info instanbul
[08:34] <ubotu> Package instanbul does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:34] <[Meta] > Still have some somewhere.
[08:34] <rummik> airtonix: so if something needs it that i want, i should go ahead and install it? would there be something else that does the same job that's already on here?
[08:34] <mario_> toma-, there you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19222/
[08:34] <thebillywayne> !info istanbul
[08:34] <[Meta] > Got a 16KB stick of RAM in my room. :)
[08:34] <ubotu> istanbul: Desktop session recorder producing Ogg Theora video. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-3build1 (feisty), package size 46 kB, installed size 376 kB
[08:34] <godlygeek> rummik: If i had to guess, you have xinetd and not reg'lar inetd.
[08:34] <zie>  !info istanbul
[08:35] <jnc> godlygeek: the google trail goes like this, figure out what dbus / hal thing is used for suspend to ram, then read more about it and how to send that message by hand, do it and run the daemons in debug mode
[08:35] <rummik> godlygeek: i don't see that either
[08:35] <Phylo> I plugged it in via ethernet cable (JUST installed Ubuntu) and tried to add a program wifi-radar but it failed to download anything.  ok specs:
[08:35] <zie> umm so download  istanbul
[08:35] <Toma-> mario_: ahh, theyre ok errors. everyone gets them... disregard them
[08:35] <Phylo> Toshiba Satellite... um
[08:35] <[Meta] > Anyway, I need to eat.
[08:35] <rummik> godlygeek: nor does vmware >.<
[08:35] <Phylo> what else?
[08:35] <airtonix> rummik: well ive done a neboot install it requires that so yeah if your puttin in somethigna that requires it put it in or it wont run most likley
[08:35] <thebillywayne> zie, sudo aptitude install istanbul
[08:35] <jnc> godlygeek: the end answer is you edit some kind of funky permissions file that describes which users are permitted to signal events that take down the box (i.e. suspend)
[08:35] <mario_> toma-, i don't have others
[08:35] <jsizzle> anyone remember how you make sudo sticky in a shell script? isn't it like sudo su something or other?
[08:35] <Phylo> going through a router, dsl internet
[08:35] <zie> ok
[08:35] <godlygeek> jnc: I'm pretty set up for that - I can run the dbus command with dbus-send
[08:35] <zie> ok thanks man
[08:36] <airtonix> Phylo: turn it upside down read it undernetah
[08:36] <zie> so i can make like a video tutorial
[08:36] <Phylo> ... what the serial number?
[08:36] <mario_> toma-, man, I think no one has the same problem
[08:36] <jnc> [Meta] -[Eating] : I started when I was 6 (i'm 23 now)...  so...
[08:36] <godlygeek> jnc: That makes me think that any IPC stuff going on behind the scenes should just be working
[08:36] <airtonix> Phylo: no the model number
[08:36] <zie> it will record off desktop too, such as the internet browser
[08:36] <godlygeek> jnc: Which makes me think that it is an acpi/acpid/HAL problem (one of those, ;))
[08:36] <jnc> godlygeek: I'm not terribly motivated to revisit this particular issue, sorry mate
[08:36] <Snowman> jnc: started what.  programming?  or computer use?
[08:36] <airtonix> Phylo: i used to have  toshiba dynaboook t4/410pme
[08:36] <Gerro> [Meta] : oh you said you got an Ubuntu cd at an IT convention, that's nice is all. which desktop manager do you use I'm curious
[08:36] <thebillywayne> zie, yes.  you can annotate with Beryl if you like.
[08:37] <rummik> airtonix: i just tried installing inetd, it said the package doesn't exist. however, xinetd is installing just fine
[08:37] <jnc> Snowman: dos commands, BASIC scripting
[08:37] <godlygeek> jnc: thanks anyway, then.
[08:37] <zie> ok
[08:37] <airtonix> tyr this
[08:37] <Snowman> jnc: my old man got me started in BASIC and ASM on a commodore cbm when I was 6 or so.  kept me quiet while he graded papers at the high school he worked for.
[08:37] <airtonix> rummik: thry this: sudo apt-cache search inetd
[08:37] <err0r> .join #ubuntu-fr
[08:37] <airtonix> rummik: or replace inetd with xinetd
[08:37] <jnc> assembler at young age, I envy you
[08:37] <zie> whats this mean
[08:37] <zie> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:37] <zie> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[08:37] <jnc> it's hard to pick up with my old fart mind now
[08:37] <airtonix> rummik: or not since the keywords are there anyway'
[08:37] <Snowman> scarily enough, back then those seemed like hella nice machines ;)
[08:38] <rummik> airtonix: xinetd seems to be working now
[08:38] <Phylo> ... ok:  mine's a Toshiba Satellite A105-S2061 model:
[08:38] <jnc> zie: cache open failed?   eewww
[08:38] <Phylo> may I ask why you need the model number?
[08:38] <Snowman> had their own monitor and everything, didn't even have to hook it to a tv!
[08:38] <zie> lol damn
[08:38] <jnc> zie: did you run out of disk space?
[08:38] <airtonix> Phylo: cool now hunt down the pdf from the web for that model
[08:38] <zie> i dont think soo know
[08:38] <zie> can i make space
[08:38] <Skiguy> so. anyone know how to change the resolution of a vnc session from win to ubuntu?
[08:38] <Snowman> jnc: assembler only because it was the only way to get a cbm or a pet to do anything useful.
[08:38] <rummik> airtonix: would it be possible that someone forgot to put that package on the install cd?
[08:39] <zie> do i fix it in the terminal
[08:39] <jnc> Snowman: yea.  man, when Hypercard hit the well-equipped Apple IIe labs at my school, I really kicked some ass learning about it.  I'm glad Ubuntu has Ruby language, it's much better these days to get started
[08:39] <mario_> toma-, any ideas?
[08:40] <Toma-> mario_: no sorry, ive got a couple problems here atm so im njo much use right now
[08:40] <jnc> zie: uh, we could like tell you what to type
[08:40] <jnc> it's not much fun that way
[08:40] <Snowman> jnc: I'm finding ruby on rails to be nice, yeah.  currently working the kinks out of a fleet/inventory management barcoding package for work.  should keep the loss of gear/material in check.
[08:40] <zie> lol i know shell a little. but yes go ahead
[08:40] <DigitalNinja> Just installed dual boot with Windows XP and Ubuntu. Windows doesn't boot. Any idea?
[08:40] <demonspork> I just installed Ubuntu on a SATA HD from a SATA DVD drive.  When the system booted, it just said "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER"  and when I boot back onto the live CD, I can see that everything is there as it should be.  How do I get this thing to boot?
[08:40] <Coole^> yt
[08:40] <catid> anyone know of a replacement for File Roller that allows me to drag'n'drop files from the archive to extract them?
[08:41] <mario_> toma-, do you know how in the world can I get this solved, who can i contact or something?
[08:41] <jnc> demonspork: sacrifice the lamb
[08:41] <[Meta] -[Eating] > <jnc> [Meta] -[Eating] : I started when I was 6 (i'm 23 now)...  so <-- Started what?
[08:41] <|chiz|_> demonspork, do you have just the one harddrive?
[08:41] <Snowman> [Meta] : programming I think he said.
[08:41] <jnc> [Meta] : dos commands (to run games), BASIC scripting
[08:41] <demonspork> 2
[08:41] <demonspork> no RAID configured
[08:41] <[Meta] > Ohhh.
[08:41] <bullgard4> The file 'acpiconf.c' is not on my computer. See  (http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/acpi/acpibif.c.) Where can I find it?
[08:41] <zie> yes tell me
[08:41] <[Meta] > I started BASIC when I was 10, jnc.
[08:41] <jnc> Treasure Mountain and Reader Rabit ftw
[08:42] <jnc> cool
[08:42] <[Meta] > And HTML too.
[08:42] <jnc> ah, were you the only dork who had a website?
[08:42] <[Meta] > Haha.
[08:42] <jnc> yea me too
[08:42] <|chiz|_> demonspork, you could try switching which drive is booting first incase its reading the wrong one
[08:42] <odkjwodwodjkwodj> guys, can i use the deamon tools to load a slax image instead of the cd or usb? :P
[08:42] <Snowman> jnc: hell no.  Space quest!
[08:42] <Snowman> or zork.
[08:42] <[Meta] > I'm still the only one in my IT class that can do HTML, jnc
[08:42] <demonspork> the BIOS doesn't allow me to pick which one
[08:42] <jnc> Snowman: true dat
[08:42] <zie> jnc: i must know what to type
[08:42] <DigitalNinja> What should menu.list look like for booting windows?
[08:42] <|chiz|_> demonspork, what is on the other one?
[08:42] <catid> DigitalNinja: you will have to do extra work to add an entry to /boot/grub/menu.lst for windows xp's bootloader in its own partition.. and if i'm wrong there you will need to let winxp's bootloader run *first* and use a patch to it to let you select linux
[08:42] <jnc> zie: 'sudo apt-get update'
[08:42] <demonspork> |chiz| and theoretically, if one boot device fails, it moves to the next
[08:43] <zie> i have a project with desktop tutorials i must finish, and i cant install the program
[08:43] <Snowman> !!!!!!
[08:43] <demonspork> |chiz| The other one is empty
[08:43] <zie> ok
[08:43] <jnc> zie: though I figure you might have trashed your /var/cache/apt
[08:43] <jnc> or something
[08:43] <Snowman> I think my cat just raped my girlfriend's kitten. :(
[08:43] <catid> DigitalNinja: try googling from there..  should turn up something
[08:43] <|chiz|_> demonspork, ok, you're right but try unplugging the empty one
[08:43] <mario_> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!opengl textures in nvidia nv18 problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:43] <zie> ohhh well i havent touch anything
[08:43] <[Meta] > Shall update all that crap later. :/
[08:44] <catid> anyone know of a replacement for File Roller that allows me to drag'n'drop files from the archive to extract them?
[08:44] <zie> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure
[08:44] <Caplain> mario_, was that spamulent flurry necessary?
[08:44] <demonspork> |chiz| I put an unformatted NTFS partition at the beginning of the drive in question, would that cause anything to be out of whack?
[08:44] <[Meta] > 202MB of updates and my connection goes at 30kb/s max.
[08:44] <Snowman> </jesus but I didn't need to hear that.>
[08:44] <jnc> zie: i don't know, do what it says man. heh
[08:44] <DigitalNinja> catid: Windows was installed before we installed Ubuntu. We resized the Windows partition and put linux on the back side
[08:44] <Skiguy> okay - simpler question. why can't gedit get the permissions it needs to open restricted files "sudo gedit [anything] " won't start. no error. nuthin.
[08:44] <jnc> [Meta] : bad mirror?
[08:44] <[Meta] > Nah.
[08:44] <jnc> say it ain't modem
[08:44] <[Meta] > Slow internet. :P
[08:44] <Flannel> Skiguy: Try `gksu "gedit file"`
[08:44] <orbin> Skiguy: ... you should be using gksudo with gui apps
[08:44] <zie> k
[08:44] <DigitalNinja> catid: The grub boot menu shows xp but when we select it it doesn't boot
[08:44] <odkjwodwodjkwodj> hello..............................................
[08:44] <zie> but it doesnt say anything
[08:44] <odkjwodwodjkwodj> guys, can i use the deamon tools to load a slax image instead of the cd or usb? :P
[08:45] <catid> DigitalNinja: sounds like Windows should be your bootloader then, yes?  i used to run a winxp system dual booted like that.. i had found a patched windows boot loader for it
[08:45] <godlygeek> jnc: kids these days don't know what a modem is!
[08:45] <[Meta] > 256kbps ADSL connection, jnc
[08:45] <zie> and im new to linux soo
[08:45] <jnc> Tee Cee Pee over Cup O' Joe
[08:45] <zie> lol a modem
[08:45] <|chiz|_> demonspork, I don't think so, when you bois trys to boot the disk it will just read the boot sector of the disc which should have then instruction on where to find grub and how to boot it and then grub knows how to boot your other operating systems
[08:45] <jnc> i.e. go for cup of coffe while you wait to download
[08:45] <[Meta] > I had dial up for 7 years. o.O
[08:45] <mario_> caplain, man, I've been here 3 hours trying to get some help. do I look desperated?
[08:45] <catid> DigitalNinja: oh you've already replaced the bootloader with GRUB hrm..
[08:45] <Snowman> godlygeek: sure they do.  it's that thing the cable plugs into that's always on and lets them get pr0n at 200k/s+
[08:45] <DigitalNinja> catid: No. Grub should be the boot loader
[08:45] <[Meta] > Actually, more like 5 years
[08:45] <[Meta] > 1997-2002, RIP dialup.
[08:45] <catid> DigitalNinja: eh, works both ways from personal experience.. GRUB is nicer as a primary loader though
[08:46] <godlygeek> [Meta] : probably 56k, at least... i started with 4.8 k...  lolz
[08:46] <Caplain> mario_, whats the issue?
[08:46] <[Meta] > I started with 56k. :/
[08:46] <Snowman> godlygeek: 300baud c64 FTW!
[08:46] <Skiguy> thanks for the tip orbin. what's gksudo?
[08:46] <catid> DigitalNinja: does this help?  http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html
[08:46] <[Meta] > But that's only coz my family wasn't deeply into this whole "internet" thing at first.
[08:46] <godlygeek> [Meta] : I win the "who's older" competition, I guess.
[08:46] <Snowman> you dialed in with that thing, then watched as it printed a screen of text every 2min from the bbs :P
[08:46] <[Meta] > I'm going to die when I have to move.
[08:46] <catid> anyone know of a replacement for File Roller that allows me to drag'n'drop files from the archive to extract them?
[08:46] <Snowman> big honkin cradle you had to stick the fscking phone into.
[08:47] <godlygeek> Snowman: thank god for vi.  works just as well at 300 baud.
[08:47] <[Meta] > We won't have the internet when I move. ;-;
[08:47] <godlygeek> Snowman: at least you have time to think about what to type, lol
[08:47] <[Meta] > Meaning I should stock up on like... books and stuff.
[08:47] <zie> JNC: hey jnc i got it
[08:47] <mario_> caplain, when I start a 3d game(because I've tried sooo many) the screen goes black and I can't do a singel thing
[08:47] <orbin> Skiguy: sudo for gui apps. sorry - can't give you the technical side of things. :)
[08:47] <zie> Thanks man
[08:47] <jnc> zie: you figured it out, don't thank me
[08:47] <zie> lol
[08:47] <Caplain> mario_, hmm
[08:47] <orbin> Skiguy: except that's it's safer.
[08:47] <zie> i had to login as superuser
[08:47] <|chiz|_> [Meta] , there is such thing as satalite internet, kind of pricy though
[08:47] <Caplain> sounds like a driver problem :)
[08:47] <jnc> I'm so tired and ornery, all I can say is good job man
[08:48] <Skiguy> well, gksudo gives me a gedit window
[08:48] <ryks> hello all
[08:48] <Madpilot> [Meta] , if you just want to chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic - we try to keep this channel support-oriented. Thanks.
[08:48] <zie> k
[08:48] <Skiguy> it's thinking about if it wants to actually open the document
[08:48] <[Meta] > Nah |chiz|_ we won't be able to get the internet when we move into my nan's house. x_X
[08:48] <Snowman> godlygeek: true enough, but you also had time enough to nod off before the rest of the file displayed.
[08:48] <[Meta] > Mmkay.
[08:48] <jnc> [Meta] : I am missing the context here, you moving very far away from internet?
[08:48] <Snowman> godlygeek: likewise, getting a "NO CARRIER" in the middle of posting a file or msg to the bbs was infuriating.
[08:48] <mario_> caplain, do you see? seems like an unsolvable problem?
[08:49] <Caplain> mario_, no such thing as an unsolvable problem
[08:49] <godlygeek> Snowman: hehe, never had to worry THAT much about it... i started really using computers during windows 3.0/3.1/3.11 and the very end of the BBS era.
[08:49] <Caplain> mario_, do you have to restart the computer when the screen goes blank?
[08:49] <mario_> caplain, you tell me
[08:49] <zie> Caplain, i think its his graphics card
[08:49] <ryks> how can i change the desktop menu with other ?
[08:50] <ryks> in ubuntu?
[08:50] <Snowman> godlygeek: I had a hideously noisy phone line back then (retrofitted party line), and as modems were "new", it wasn't really a dependable idea yet.
[08:50] <mario_> caplain, no restart the pc but the session with ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:50] <Caplain> mario_, (command for game) > debug.txt
[08:50] <mario_> caplain, I can hear the game sound but I cant see
[08:50] <godlygeek> Snowman: haha, noisy phone lines... i remember having to deal with those.  fortunately, i lived in the middle of nowhere, so phone service was just primo.
[08:50] <Caplain> then cat the debug file
[08:50] <Caplain> mario_, you might have your resolution set too high
[08:50] <ryks> i just looking to a moving center menu
[08:51] <Caplain> what game is it?
[08:51] <mario_> caplain, what other choise do I have when I can't see a thing
[08:51] <Snowman> godlygeek: that was my problem.  the telco service office was 80km away, so they got to you when they felt like it.
[08:51] <mario_> caplain, I've tried tremulous, penguin race, trigger.....
[08:52] <catid> anyone know of a replacement for File Roller that allows me to drag'n'drop files from the archive to extract them?
[08:52] <mario_> caplain, maybe i'll have to restart the session, so i'll be back
[08:52] <Caplain> ok
[08:53] <godlygeek> Snowman: even with cable, my parents still get that... I'm sitting pretty with comcast at a 8Mb / 3Mb connection, and they never top 140 kbps because their cable company doesn't know what resegmenting is or why it would ever be necessary
[08:53] <MSTK> can anyone tell me any programs that can help me increase productivity while in the Command Line environment?
[08:53] <MSTK> ie, screen
[08:53] <godlygeek> MSTK: read more about screen.
[08:53] <godlygeek> MSTK: much more.
[08:53] <Snowman> 5mbit down, 3mbit up adsl here.
[08:53] <godlygeek> MSTK: it's the MOST useful command line tool.
[08:53] <Snowman> it's not bad.
[08:53] <zie> Anyone heard of ScreenCast
[08:53] <Snowman> it's oversold though, so I only see my peak speeds in off hours. :\
[08:54] <MSTK> godlygeek - I've read up quite a lot about screen and I think I can use it efficiently.  loading the same session on different physical terminals (home, school, etc.) is nice
[08:54] <MSTK> anything else, though?
[08:54] <godlygeek> MSTK: seriously, though...  know how to use perl/python one liners...
[08:54] <godlygeek> MSTK: and, i'd very seriously suggest switching from bash to zsh if you're a console cowboy.
[08:54] <godlygeek> i'll never go back.  :)
[08:54] <Flannel> MSTK: screen really is the most productive thing you'll get.  Everything else is just individual programs.
[08:54] <commonlyUNIQU3> anyone try pidgin 2.0.0 final yet (on Feisty) ???
[08:55] <MSTK> I'm relatively new to this console thing.  I just only recently realized that I could do all of my daily computing activities on the Command Line, and more efficiently, too.
[08:55] <MSTK> I'll heck out zsh.
[08:55] <MSTK> *check
[08:55] <ryks> hello can i change my desktop bar with other in ubuntu (moving style?_)??
[08:55] <Toma-> Anyone know how to flush /var/log/messages?
[08:55] <odkjwodwodjkwodj> i will reboot in linux now hehe, hope it works
[08:55] <odkjwodwodjkwodj> lol
[08:55] <TheDebugger> Anyone has a problem with amarok where the track name at the bottom left is showed as html?
[08:55] <odkjwodwodjkwodj> if i dont come back
[08:55] <odkjwodwodjkwodj> i would be deaddddddddddddddd
[08:56] <orbin> MSTK: someone suggested cowsay to me a long time ago. :)
[08:56] <MSTK> what is it?
[08:56] <KuzuX> do u know any repositories except the official one?
[08:56] <godlygeek> MSTK: it's incredible... especially if you like dramatic, overstylized prompts! http://www.aperiodic.net/phil/prompt/
[08:56] <|chiz|> TheDebugger: I've seen that before
[08:56] <TheDebugger> :/
[08:57] <godlygeek> MSTK: cowsay just takes input sent to its stdin and displays it in a speech bubble attached to a cow.  :)
[08:57] <MSTK> godlygeek - ah.  definitely the most productive program I shall ever have.
[08:57] <|chiz|> TheDebugger: not sure why that is though
[08:57] <godlygeek> MSTK: lol, i'm not the one who suggested it, just explaining it!
[08:57] <MSTK> heh, thanks.  It's an amusing concept.
[08:57] <|chiz|> TheDebugger: I thought it was xml, not html though
[08:57] <zcat[1] > apt-get moo
[08:57] <citybird> hi, does anyone know where i can find info on making a mail virus, spam scan machine that then forwards everything to another machine?
[08:57] <commonlyUNIQU3> anyone try pidgin 2.0.0 final yet (on Feisty) ???
[08:58] <Flannel> commonlyUNIQU3: pidgin final isn't in Feisty.
[08:58] <HKJGN_> RAGH!\
[08:58] <HKJGN_> X.x
[08:58] <HKJGN_> linux hates me
[08:58] <Flannel> citybird: please troll elsewhere; thanks.
[08:59] <HKJGN_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft i used this to try and install WoW and get it to work
[08:59] <Bradford> Does anyone know where to get PPC Feisty???
[08:59] <godlygeek> MSTK: but, for actual productivity, definitely zsh. Check out this for a quick list of some neat things it can do: http://rayninfo.co.uk/tips/zshtips.html
[08:59] <HKJGN_> then when i run wine, i get a mile long list of errors
[08:59] <cntb> \o
[08:59] <MSTK> godlygeek - will do.  So this will replace bash and gnome-terminal for me?
[08:59] <HKJGN_> Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[08:59] <HKJGN_> Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system32" is not accessible.
[08:59] <HKJGN_> Warning: could not find DOS drive for current working directory '/home/hikyuu/.wine/drive_c/World of Warcraft', starting in the Windows directory.
[08:59] <HKJGN_> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\Installer.exe": Module not foun
[08:59] <citybird> Flannel: not trolling. serious question. cant find anything relating to ubuntu mailscan server installs
[08:59] <HKJGN_> X.x
[08:59] <cntb> I have an issue with konqueror find files /folders
[09:00] <demon_spork> Is there anything special that needs to be done to get Ubuntu to boot off a SATA drive?
[09:00] <mario_> caplain, still there?
[09:00] <mcquaid> whats packages provides perl modules like (netPacket::Ethernet, IP,TCP, Unicode::string)?
[09:00] <HKJGN_> demon_spork: im running on SATAS, dont worry
[09:00] <cntb> fin s nothing in place of existant files IOw non-functional .now in dapper
[09:00] <godlygeek> MSTK: no, just bash, the shell.  For a terminal, I'd actually recommend xterm.  It's ugly out of the box, but i find it less intrusive than gnome terminal, and i think it takes less space, when configured nicely.
[09:00] <demon_spork> HKJGN_ did you just click install and it worked?
[09:00] <Flannel> Bradford: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/release/
[09:01] <airtonix> Phylo: got your manual yet?
[09:01] <ryks> enyone?
[09:01] <Phylo> if I install Ubuntu Edgy Eft can I upgrade to the new one later without reinstalling Ubunut?
[09:01] <godlygeek> MSTK: the only feature gnome-terminal really has on it is tabbing, and you've already mentioned that you use screen, so no need for tabs.  :)
[09:01] <HKJGN_> demon_spork: it recognized my hdds without any extra effort, yes
[09:01] <Phylo> airtonix:  not looking for a .pdf I can't view them, but
[09:01] <ryks> plz just a little question?
[09:01] <thebillywayne> Phylo, yes.  but you're better off clean installing Feisty.
[09:01] <ryks> just one :)
[09:01] <crimsun> Bradford: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/release/
[09:01] <Phylo> I reconnected with an ethernet cable and am downloading some apps such as wifi
[09:01] <HKJGN_> can someone help me find out why im so incapable of following a simple tutorial?
[09:01] <citybird> i need to create  a mailscan head that forwards clean mail to the mailboxes on another mailserver.
[09:01] <BHSPitMonkey> is it possible to induce the monitor going into idle mode?
[09:01] <HKJGN_> can someone help me find out why im so incapable of following a simple tutorial?
[09:01] <MSTK> godlygeek - how would I go about changing the shells that load up in xterm/gnome-terminal?
[09:01] <Phylo> *wireless assistant*
[09:01] <demon_spork> HKJGN_, it recognizes mine just fine, installs Ubuntu just fine.  It just never manages to boot off the install
[09:02] <Flannel> citybird: Oh.  Hah.  You should punctuate better ;)  Uh, You'd need some mail thing, (postfix/whatever).  Courier might have something like that already.
[09:02] <BHSPitMonkey> HKJGN_, no need to repeat yourself.
[09:02] <godlygeek> MSTK: chsh, from a shell, changes your default shell.
[09:02] <Jack31> whats the paste link
[09:02] <HKJGN_> demon_spork: not sure after that
[09:02] <MSTK> godlygeek - thanks.
[09:02] <godlygeek> mmhmm
[09:02] <cntb> HKJGN_: be pecific on issue
[09:02] <HKJGN_> BHSPitMonkey: accident
[09:02] <mario_> Caplain, the debug.txt file didn't appear
[09:02] <BHSPitMonkey> understood
[09:02] <MSTK> hm...is there any way I could configure xterm to run green font on black background?
[09:03] <Cosmo_> I am using the live CD, I need to copy a folder from hdc3 to hdc2 how exactly do I go about doing this?
[09:03] <Phylo> any suggestions on a program to automatically configure my wireless connection?
[09:03] <MSTK> just for the "1337 ha><" effect.
[09:03] <Jack31> Does anyone know how i can fix this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19226/
[09:03] <godlygeek> oh, and MSTK: Use either vim or emacs (but especially vim) because you'll learn to be more productive in them than in any other editor.
[09:03] <Jack31> I get it when trying to install Pango
[09:03] <Flannel> citybird: fetchmail/procmail could do it even, I guess.  I don't imagine you'll find a pre-fab solution, you'll have to hack something together.
[09:03] <MSTK> I'm a huge VIM fan myself.
[09:03] <godlygeek> sweet.
[09:03] <Italy> Hi
[09:03] <duck3y> Cosmo: cp <folder> <folder>
[09:03] <cntb> Phylo:  wlassistant
[09:03] <mario_> caplain, well, there is the file, but it doesn't have anything on it
[09:03] <duck3y> Cosmo_: cp <folder> <folder>
[09:03] <HKJGN_> cntb i was using this tutorial to install WoW on Ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft , everyone says "its that simple, its that simple" but then Wine spouts out errors like this "Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[09:03] <HKJGN_> Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system32" is not accessible.
[09:03] <HKJGN_> Warning: could not find DOS drive for current working directory '/home/hikyuu/.wine/drive_c/World of Warcraft', starting in the Windows directory.
[09:03] <HKJGN_> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\Installer.exe": Module not found"
[09:03] <godlygeek> MSTK: may i priv message you?
[09:03] <cntb> in internet icons
[09:04] <MSTK> godlygeek - no need to ask permission
[09:04] <godlygeek> MSTK: netiquette.  ;)
[09:04] <Phylo> cntb:  alright, I'll check it out
[09:04] <Italy> Hi Mario. are you italian?
[09:04] <Phylo> cntb:  that one didn't work before though...
[09:04] <HKJGN_> cntb: and im losing all possible control over my willingness to kill my pc
[09:04] <MSTK> godlygeek - well, in that case, go right ahead =)
 cntb: and im losing all possible control over my willingness to kill my pc <<< lack logic
[09:05] <airtonix> phylo: i recommend you get that manual, it will help you identify exactly what hardware you have, without ityour only guessin
[09:05] <Cosmo_> duck3y: but how do I tell it from one partition to another?
[09:05] <Caplain> mario_, did you set up the nvidia drivers in xorg.conf?
[09:05] <HKJGN_> cntb: honestly, i doubt i have any logic left, i just want my outcomes to be similar to the ones in these tutorials :(
[09:05] <mario_> caplain, tell me how
[09:05] <Phylo> airtonix:  alright fine, but I can't view pdf, let me know if you know of something for me, meanwhile I'll search
[09:06] <duck3y> Cosmo_: cp /media/partition/folder /media/partition/folder
[09:06] <Caplain> mario_, apt-get install nvidia-glx i think it is
[09:06] <HKJGN_> everyones all "oh wow, that was so easy!" and mines like "DEATH! NO WOW FOR YOU!"
[09:06] <Jaesang1> hi?
[09:06] <HKJGN_> ;_;
[09:06] <duck3y> Cosmo_: <from folder> <to folder>
[09:06] <|chiz|> HKJGN: your computer is just trying to do you and your social life a favor
[09:06] <Flannel> HKJGN_: you might ask in #winehq, they do miracles with wine.
[09:06] <Jaesang1> can you guys help me?
[09:06] <Jaesang1> i have 2 harddrives
[09:06] <Cosmo_> duck3y: thanks
[09:06] <Jaesang1> and i've just installed ubuntu on the second one
[09:06] <Caplain> Jaesang1, i have 5
[09:07] <Jaesang1> but now it says
[09:07] <HKJGN_> | chiz | dont start with me
[09:07] <HKJGN_> lol
[09:07] <Jaesang1> "operating system cannot load"
[09:07] <Jaesang1> or something like that
[09:07] <Jaesang1> on boot
[09:07] <|chiz|> hahaha
[09:07] <airtonix> Phylo: her e is the url for your latop at toshiba : http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/su/su_sc_modelLanding.jsp?ProductMenu_0=Portables&ProductMenu_1=Satellite&ProductMenu_2=1310938&x=15&y=10&BV_SessionID=%40%40%40%401601366853.1178348593%40%40%40%40&BV_EngineID=cccdaddklfgkhhmcgfkceghdgngdgmm.0&moid=1310938&smoid=true&ct=MH&ListType=Model
[09:07] <mario_> caplain, see "nvidia-glx ya est en su versin ms reciente."
[09:07] <Jaesang1> any ideas?
[09:07] <Caplain> mario_, i dont speak spanish
[09:08] <Jack31> Does anyone get this error
[09:08] <mario_> caplain, sorry "nvidia.glx is the latest version"
[09:08] <orbin> that is one massive url...
[09:08] <airtonix> ja srry
[09:08] <Jack31> Anyone get this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19226/
[09:08] <mario_> caplain, the idea is that I have the latest driver here
[09:08] <godlygeek> MSTK: did you get my priv message?  I'm still learning irssi, i want to make sure i sent it correctly.  ;)
[09:08] <MSTK> godlygeek - no, I don't think I got it.  sorry :(
[09:08] <Caplain> mario_, run nvidia-xconfig
[09:08] <frojnd> how can I figure it out on which partition is installed linux root i mean, and how big is this partition - in MB? this is my fdisk and df - h output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19227/
[09:09] <MSTK> the problem might be on my side though.
[09:09] <orbin> frojnd: / is root
[09:09] <Jaesang1> I have two hard drives and i've installed ubuntu linux on my secondary (slave), and now when i'm booting it says "operating system could not load". What do i do?
[09:09] <airtonix> Phylo: you cn download all the win32 stuff there  you might need the wifi rivers
[09:09] <mario_> caplain, i did that "Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[09:09] <mario_> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[09:09] <mario_> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'"
[09:09] <protocol1> is there a way I can add more gnome themes to my machine?
[09:10] <frojnd> orbin: so how can I check how big is root?
[09:10] <airtonix> protocol1: yep
[09:10] <Caplain> mario_, restart X
[09:10] <airtonix> protocol1: easy as pie
[09:10] <Caplain> and try again
[09:10] <Jaesang1> anyone there?
[09:10] <|chiz|> protocol1: gnome art manager
[09:10] <protocol1> aitonix, anything but the default ones
[09:10] <godlygeek> MSTK: hm.  private messages from unregistered members are currently blocked. apparently.
[09:10] <vustar> Jack31, /dev/sda2              15G  4.4G  9.7G  31% /
[09:10] <airtonix> protocol1: goto gnome-look.org
[09:10] <Tarkus> anyone know how to change the color of the top/botom of the workspace cube?
[09:10] <mario_> caplain, how? ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:10] <Jack31> vustar, what?
[09:10] <protocol1> aitonix, ok thx
[09:10] <MSTK> Tarkus - are you using Beryl?
[09:10] <MSTK> godlygeek - well that's inconvenient.
[09:10] <airtonix> protocol1: gtk is for buttons and menus....metacity is for window borders
[09:10] <Caplain> mario_, yeah
[09:11] <orbin> frojnd: what vustar said to Jack31 :)
[09:11] <airtonix> protocol1: and wallpapers well you nkow them
[09:11] <Tarkus> MSTK, no, just desktop effects that came with ubuntu (compiz)
[09:11] <Jack31> why my name being said?
[09:11] <vustar> frojnd, /dev/sda2              15G  4.4G  9.7G  31% /
[09:11] <MSTK> godlygeek - would you care to explain to me the advantages of zsh over bash?
[09:11] <Snowman> yeah, back.
[09:11] <Phylo> how can I make all my programs run using sudo?  I'm the only one that uses this computer
[09:11] <Jack31> anyone want to help with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19226/
[09:12] <orbin> Snowman: by the time it took i'm guessing no go
[09:12] <Snowman> sorta, yeah.l
[09:12] <|chiz|> Phylo: you shouldn't do that
[09:12] <jpjacobs> Phylo, that's not a good idea... every mistake could result in an unusable system
[09:12] <mario_> caplain, i'll be back in a sec
[09:12] <godlygeek> MSTK: i'm a registered user, are you?  ;)
[09:12] <zcat[1] > Phylo: type 'sudo' in front of every command...
[09:12] <duck3y> Phylo: I don t think that is such a wise move
[09:12] <Snowman> going to install ubuntu on this beast so at least I'll hav a common distro with the more helpful of the channels. :D
[09:12] <Phylo> ok, it's clear that I shouldn't (so I won't), but I'm not running stuff from a command line
[09:12] <MSTK> godlygeek - no, probably not =/   I should try that one day.
[09:12] <Phylo> I'm clicking on the application
[09:12] <vustar> Jack31, 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.0.7, but GLIB (2.12.11)
[09:12] <vustar> *** was found!
[09:13] <zcat[1] > Phylo: there is really _NO_ good reason you'd want to do that, and thousands of reasons why you shouldn't
[09:13] <Snowman> hopefully I can get the live cd to let go of the cd drive long enough to mount a driver cd and install ndiswrapper to get the card up during the install.
[09:13] <Jack31> vustar, yeh , whata bout it?
[09:13] <Phylo> zcat[1] :  Why should I go through some special procedure everytime I want to run an application just because it wants to make sure I'm the admin?
[09:13] <mcquaid> i need to run a perl script that needs various perl modules
[09:13] <airtonix> Phylo: why not? if not just make desktop launchers for what you need
[09:14] <mcquaid> do i build these with cpan or something or should there be a pkg for these?
[09:14] <mario_> caplain, i tried the game once more, but nothing has changed
[09:14] <Tarkus> MSTK, any ideas on how to do it?
[09:14] <kahrytan> mcquaid:  Perl installs it's own modules
[09:14] <rizal_oprex> hi all, I'm using Edgy on my laptop and I have a shutdown problem. If I shutdown my laptop in the end of the process it halt and I have to press the power button for a few second to completely turn off my laptop. Anyone can help me?
[09:14] <MSTK> Tarkus - sorry, I'm using Beryl, so I do'nt really know.  Try asking your question again to the crowd.
[09:14] <godlygeek> MSTK: /msg nickserv REGISTER
[09:14] <airtonix> Phylo: the point of sudo is threefold
[09:14] <zcat[1] > Phylo: perhaps you should ask all the windows users.. the ones that are sending out 90% of the world's spam and dealing with spyware, and all that.... because everyone in XP runs as admin by default..
[09:14] <Phylo> I guess the actual question is how do I do that at all?
[09:14] <airtonix> Phylo: one it sets a timeframe in which admin commands can run
[09:14] <airtonix> Phylo: it also limits the envrion that it can run in
[09:15] <mcquaid> kahrytan, i  have little exposure to perl, i'm running a script that needs NetPacket::Ethernet and others
[09:15] <Phylo> *how do I run it using sudo in the first place?*
[09:15] <Tarkus> anyone know how to change the color of the top/botom of the workspace cube?
[09:15] <airtonix> Phylo: and thee it makes you think again about whatyou are doing
[09:15] <mcquaid> how would I get them?  I don't see any pkgs providing them
[09:15] <Caplain> mario_, well at least your X session is accelerated
[09:15] <airtonix> like this
[09:15] <zie> what is gzip
[09:15] <Toma-> Can you burn the CD iso onto a dvd without anything messing up horribly?
[09:15] <MSTK> godlygeek - there, that should work
[09:15] <kahrytan> mcquaid:  Use cpan
[09:15] <mario_> caplain, hahaha
[09:15] <Caplain> videowise
[09:15] <Caplain> lol
[09:15] <airtonix> Phylo: press alt+f2
[09:15] <mario_> caplain, any other idea?
[09:15] <airtonix> Phylo: then type : gksudo gedit
[09:16] <zie> what is gzip
[09:16] <airtonix> Phylo: if you want to make an icon tthat you double clikc
[09:16] <Snowman> !gzip
[09:16] <zie> yes
[09:16] <airtonix> Phylo: put gksudo <command-to-run>
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gzip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <Caplain> mario_, nope
[09:16] <Snowman> heh
[09:16] <kahrytan> mcquaid:  I know perl
[09:16] <mcquaid> kahrytan, so i have to grab these pm files and build them all?
[09:16] <Snowman> zie: gzip is a cli compression app.
[09:16] <airtonix> Phylo: in a dekstop launcher icon....simple
[09:16] <Phylo> ok, I was attributing some other things to being because of "sudo", but gimmie a sec
[09:16] <zcat[1] > !zcat
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zcat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <zie> it says gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[09:16] <mario_> caplain, thanks anyway i think i'll post this so i can get some help
[09:17] <mcquaid> what I find confusing is this post here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=35475
[09:17] <mario_> caplain, see ya around
[09:17] <zie> im installing a program
[09:17] <zcat[1] > zie: man gzip
[09:17] <kahrytan> mcquaid:  No. Cpan does it for you
[09:17] <zie> yes
[09:17] <airtonix> you will have to use sudo becuase some progs will touch sensitve areas of your system
[09:17] <mcquaid> the user there was trying to run the same script and said he found the required deb packages
[09:17] <kahrytan> mcquaid:  Wait a moment for me to look up info
[09:17] <Flannel> Toma-: yes
[09:17] <[Meta] > ?
[09:17] <mcquaid> ok
[09:17] <[Meta] > Woops.
[09:17] <zie> im installing xvidcap
[09:17] <Toma-> shweet.
[09:17] <Snowman> wish me luck folks, here goes installation of ubuntu :P
[09:18] <mcquaid> just before i use cpan i wanted to make sure there wasn't some pkg i was overlooking
[09:18] <zie> i have ubuntu
[09:18] <Bradford> Thank you crimsun & Flannel! I was seriously searching for that PPC Feisty forever... I have the text install but I want to see how well it works before I install it
[09:18] <zie> its great
[09:18] <airtonix> Phylo: have you rad this yet : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:18] <zie> ok anyone help me with gzip
[09:18] <Bradford> Flannel, do you know if I can install another OS on the same disc as OS X?
[09:18] <airtonix> zie : what is probem
[09:18] <zie> it says gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[09:19] <Phylo> what WEP _mode_ should I use?
[09:19] <airtonix> is it in fact a gzip archive?
[09:19] <zie> whats that mean
[09:19] <zcat[1] > zie: yeah.. you have to either feed in gzipped input, or point it to a gzipped file as the first parameter..
[09:19] <Cosmo_> what does it mean when the terminal says cp: omitting directory '/media/disk-2/home/mom' ?
[09:19] <Jack31> vustar
[09:19] <Jack31> hello?
[09:19] <zie> so how do i do that heres what i typed         tar xfz xvidcap-1.1.5.tar-2
[09:19] <KuzuX> are there any program that can make virtual cd drives?
[09:19] <zcat[1] > zie: the error suggests gzip is being fed with something that isn't compressed input
[09:20] <jo_> hello there
[09:20] <airtonix> Phylo:  the most secure ..... not the standard one that is there
[09:20] <zie> oh ok, so it has nothing to do with GZIP?
[09:20] <airtonix> zie: might not
[09:20] <Toma-> KuzuX: how do you mean?
[09:20] <Phylo> I would choose "secure network" but the only options are "Open system" and "shared key"
[09:20] <piNNoy> how do i get my sda1 in my panel? or how do i get somthing like windows explorer in my panel?
[09:20] <zcat[1] > ahhh.. does the file end with '.gz' or '.tgz'?
[09:20] <zie> Well can someone tell me how to install this program
[09:20] <kahrytan> mcquaid:  I cant find it. Perldoc will have it
[09:20] <zie> tar.gz
[09:20] <airtonix> phylo: hangon pending.
[09:20] <crimsun> zie: pass the file to file(1)
[09:20] <MSTK> piNNoy - you can mount it to a directory
[09:20] <crimsun> zie: it will tell you what type of file it is
[09:20] <zie> how do i pass
[09:20] <MSTK> sudo mount (drive) (directory)
[09:20] <crimsun> zie: file foo
[09:21] <zie> ok
[09:21] <piNNoy> how can i mount all drives
[09:21] <piNNoy> in 1 icon
[09:21] <duck3y> Cosmo_: try 'cp -R' when copying lots of nested directories
[09:21] <piNNoy> to my panel
[09:21] <KuzuX> Toma-:I have cd image files(.iso) and in Windose,I can make virtual cd drives and use them like cd's without burning on a cd
[09:21] <zcat[1] > zie: ok, next problem, whatever comes after the letter 'f' is a filename.. try 'tar xzf' rather than 'tar xfz'
[09:22] <Toma-> piNNoy: you want a "My COmputer" type of thing?
[09:22] <piNNoy> toma: Ya
[09:22] <airtonix> phylo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[09:22] <mcquaid> ok thx
[09:22] <zie> ok
[09:22] <piNNoy> exactly
[09:22] <Toma-> KuzuX: easy. "sudo mount -o loop your.iso /media/cdrom"
[09:22] <biovore> KuzuX: mount -o loop -t iso9660 <iso filename> /my/mount/point/
[09:22] <airtonix> piNNoy: rename the computer icon to My COmputer
[09:22] <zie> nope didnt work
[09:22] <Toma-> piNNoy: hit alt-F2 and open gconf-editor
[09:22] <piNNoy> air: lol
[09:22] <KuzuX> thanks a lot
[09:22] <airtonix> piNNoy: ;)
[09:22] <igcek> helo...does anybody have a good how to, to edit nstuff ext partition through windows?
[09:22] <piNNoy> ok toma: what next
[09:23] <zcat[1] > zie: what's the exact command you're typing?
[09:23] <Toma-> piNNoy: click apps/nautilus/desktop
[09:23] <airtonix> igeck: wouldnt dare try
[09:23] <zie> tar xfz xvidcap-1.1.5.tar
[09:23] <Toma-> and set what you want to see in the check boxes there
[09:23] <crimsun> zie: what did the file command work?
[09:23] <zie> i mean
[09:23] <biovore> igcek: XP and 2000 there was a program call ext2fsd that would allow windows to work with ext2 drives
[09:23] <zie> tar xzf xvidcap-1.1.5.tar
[09:23] <Fri13> igcek: extexplorer
[09:23] <crimsun> zie: it's likely already gunzipped, which means you shouldn't pass 'z' to tar.
[09:23] <igcek> merci
[09:23] <zie> no it didnt work
[09:23] <piNNoy> toma: k next
[09:23] <zcat[1] > zie: that would appear to be an uncompressed tar file. try "tar xf xvidcap-1.1.5.tar"
[09:23] <piNNoy> o
[09:23] <Fri13> igcek: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/
[09:24] <jnc> igcek: windows xp is like, 'mmc' command, add the uh, partition manager component. use it.
[09:24] <Toma-> piNNoy: umm. do you have an icon that says "Computer" ?
[09:24] <zie> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[09:24] <zie> it said that
[09:24] <piNNoy> toma: THANKS NICE!
[09:24] <piNNoy> works!@
[09:24] <Fri13> zie: have you tried recordmydesktop?
[09:24] <piNNoy> wooo
[09:24] <Toma-> yay!
[09:24] <zie> no
[09:24] <piNNoy> Yeah i checkd the computericonvisible
[09:25] <zie> im using ScreenCast
[09:25] <piNNoy> and added it to myt panel
[09:25] <piNNoy> exactly what i wanted.
[09:25] <zcat[1] > zie: download it again.. or just sudo apt-get install istanbul which probably does what you want..
[09:25] <Toma-> fantastic
[09:25] <piNNoy> 2 kudos
[09:25] <h4wk0> !berly
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about berly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <zcat[1] > zie: you want to make video clips of your desktop?
[09:25] <zcat[1] > !search istanbul
[09:25] <ubotu> Found: screencast-#ubuntu-effects
[09:25] <piNNoy> now if only i could get my wifi to work
[09:25] <zcat[1] > hmmmm.
[09:25] <piNNoy> lol
[09:26] <zcat[1] > !info istanbul
[09:26] <ubotu> istanbul: Desktop session recorder producing Ogg Theora video. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-3build1 (feisty), package size 46 kB, installed size 376 kB
[09:26] <zie> wait, i have istanbul
[09:26] <h4wk0> !beryl
[09:26] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:26] <zie> can i record from that
[09:26] <Fri13> zie: if you want good desktopcapture, try recordmydesktop and if using KDE; then rekordmydesktop kommander script from kde-apps.org
[09:26] <piNNoy> beryl owns
[09:26] <Phylo> is the network password going to be the WEP key?
[09:26] <Fri13> http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/
[09:26] <airtonix> piNNoy: have you looked at using the restrictedDrivevs program?
[09:26] <zie> im in ubuntu
[09:26] <airtonix> piNNoy: and yes beryl does own, i have more screen space now that i use the xpose type feature
[09:26] <Fri13> zie: you are on Gnome ;-)
[09:27] <airtonix> Fril3: yes ineedy i am
[09:27] <zie> i have ubuntu installed?
[09:27] <zie> no question
[09:27] <zcat[1] > ubuntu is gnome by default.. kubuntu is kde.
[09:27] <Fri13> zie: yes and you have then gnome as desktop by default
[09:27] <zie> ok
[09:27] <zcat[1] > !info recordmydesktop
[09:27] <ubotu> recordmydesktop: Captures audio-video data of a linux desktop session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-1 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 128 kB
[09:28] <zcat[1] > oh, cool...
[09:28] <airtonix> recordmydesktop works for me
[09:28] <Fri13> zcat[1] : mayby best what i have ever used
[09:28] <zcat[1] > I might give that a try too.. istanbul takes a lot of CPU
[09:28] <airtonix> istanbllu is not too good on cpu yeah
[09:28] <zie> !Gtk - REcordMyDesktop
[09:28] <airtonix> there is xvidcap too
[09:28] <zcat[1] > !info xvidcap
[09:28] <ubotu> Package xvidcap does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:29] <Fri13> records to ogg and works great. GTK+ frontend is little dum vs that kommander script but it is nice how it shows progress bar when encoding file.
[09:29] <Phylo> wlassistant says I connected successfully but I can't even search for "hi" in google (firefox)
[09:29] <airtonix> maybe i having wrong name
[09:29] <zcat[1] > no there isn't... unless you install from source :)
[09:29] <zie> i tryed xvidcap
[09:29] <dwid> im having trouble figuring out how to install a .tgz file can anyne help????
[09:29] <MSTK> cd
[09:29] <zcat[1] > dwid: tar xzf foo.tgz
[09:29] <Fri13> dwid: have you extracted files somewhere?
[09:29] <dwid> yeah
[09:30] <zcat[1] > cd foo
[09:30] <Fri13> dwid: have you read INSTALL or README?
[09:30] <|chiz|> Phylo: did you check to see if you got an ip from your wireless?
[09:30] <zcat[1] > ./configure && make && sudo make install
[09:30] <zcat[1] > usually...
[09:30] <zie> Can i record with ScreenCast
[09:30] <airtonix> Phylo: you need a dns now
[09:30] <zcat[1] > about one time in a million it actually works and doesn't need a heap of dev packages
[09:30] <Phylo> how do I check?
[09:31] <airtonix> Phylo: first try this
[09:31] <airtonix> open yourdreaded commandlline console
[09:31] <airtonix> Phylo: then type ifconfig
[09:31] <piNNoy> ubuntu rawks =)
[09:31] <Phylo> terminal?
[09:31] <piNNoy> is anyone here a PRO with wifi ??
[09:31] <airtonix> piNNoy: hear hear
[09:31] <piNNoy> i need 1 on 1 attentino
[09:32] <airtonix> Phylo: you then look for the wifi conenction ;;; ath0 or eth1
[09:32] <bogdan> does enybody know how to make deeper setings on integrated beryl from ubuntu 7.04
[09:32] <piNNoy> air get beryl too.
[09:32] <piNNoy> beryl OWNS
[09:32] <kaiserkoln> what's ur pro with wifi?
[09:32] <airtonix> piNNoy i have it....got it whilst oing my netboot install from my ISP
[09:32] <piNNoy> cant connect
[09:32] <Phylo> I see ath0, eth0, lo, and wifi0
[09:32] <zie> thought id let you guys know, im recording my desktop. i got it
[09:33] <airtonix> Phylo: okies now look at the section with ath1
[09:33] <piNNoy> whats a good irc client for ubuntu?
[09:33] <zcat[1] > zie: which program?
[09:33] <airtonix> Phylo: sorry ahto0
[09:33] <airtonix> Phylo: woops
[09:33] <zie> REcord My Desktop
[09:33] <airtonix> Phylo: wifi0....lol
[09:33] <|chiz|> piNNoy, irssi
[09:33] <piNNoy> isent irssi - terminal based?
[09:33] <Phylo> yeah, looking@ath0, nvm, looking at wifi0 area
[09:33] <zcat[1] > zie: cool.. cairo's on the good computer so I'll have to try it later.
[09:33] <piNNoy> thats mad hackerish
[09:34] <zie> lol its very kool
[09:34] <kaiserkoln> wep u in ur wifi?
[09:34] <airtonix> Phylo: anyway....i thnk ath0 and wifi0 are both the same.....maybe not try pinging both and see waht the ms repsonse time ifthey time is the same it might the same device
[09:34] <|chiz|> piNNoy, irssi + screen and run it on a server that never shuts down, then you can idle in rooms forever
[09:34] <zie> i just have an Imac, and Ubuntu, and Windows Vista, all on the imac
[09:34] <zie> its awsome
[09:34] <piNNoy> screen?
[09:34] <telejedi> macbook - feisty
[09:34] <zie> yes
[09:34] <zie> imac screen
[09:34] <MSTK> screen is a terminal multiplexer
[09:35] <Phylo> "ping ath0" -> unknown host ath0
[09:35] <zie> imac running tiger
[09:35] <piNNoy> !screen
[09:35] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer.   Looking for an ip...
[09:36] <airtonix> Phylo: times8
[09:36] <Phylo> I have an HWaddr, no ip...
[09:36] <zcat[1] > Hehe.. yeah, WEP can be cracked in half a minute.. WPA holds up for about five ;)
[09:36] <duck3y> soos dit en wat wat
[09:36] <airtonix> Phylo: ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[09:36] <Phylo> nvm ath0 gives one  (wifi0 doesn't)
[09:36] <airtonix> ohhh your wii set to dhcp?
[09:36] <duck3y> soos dit en wat wat
[09:37] <piNNoy> hm ok when i ping something like www.google.com it dosent ping cause im not connected but it goes to the next line,, to get back to my root i always have to close and open terminal ... is there another way to get to the root?
[09:37] <airtonix> okies
[09:37] <foug> does anyone know which ports i need to open up for torrents and irc downloads to work?
[09:37] <airtonix> foug: rtorrent lets you specify which ports
[09:37] <kaiserkoln> nice screen for ubuntu in this page is a manual: http://thehunter.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/instalar-y-configurar-kubuntu-704-feisty-fawn/
[09:37] <airtonix> foug: lke this rtorrent -p 9999-9999
[09:37] <zie> so do my videos of my desktop render to .avi or??
[09:37] <foug> airtonix: i'm trying to do it through http://<IP_ADDRESS>, i need to open up ports for IRC downloads as well, not just torrents
[09:38] <airtonix> foug: uses only port 9999
[09:38] <Phylo> airtonix
[09:38] <Phylo> how do I stop the pinging...
[09:38] <airtonix> foug choose whatever port you wat
[09:38] <foug> airtonix: i don't quite get it...i thought i had to use certain ports?
[09:38] <airtonix> Phylo: ctrl+c or z or x
[09:38] <Phylo> ok, it's working
[09:38] <airtonix> foug : nope the switch -p lets rtorrent advertise which ports to use
[09:38] <piNNoy> ahh thats what i was looking for air ty
[09:39] <Phylo> I got those ms times listing
[09:39] <piNNoy> crtl c stops the ping
[09:39] <Phylo> 0.035 on average
[09:39] <foug> airtonix: what about irc? that's what i use to download mostly everything
[09:39] <airtonix> phylo : cool then your card is working
[09:39] <Phylo> yes, very cool.  thank you
[09:39] <Coster> loosing my mind with radeon 9600 drivers
[09:39] <Phylo> I have another question now though :-)
[09:39] <airtonix> Phylo: what needs to happen now is you need to translate google.com into its ip address for your normal browsing habots
[09:40] <airtonix> Phylo: ill get the ip and well see if you can ping it
[09:40] <zie> Caplain, help me
[09:40] <Phylo> huh?
[09:40] <zie> caplain, help me
[09:40] <airtonix> phylo: woops willy me
[09:40] <Phylo> no way am I going to get used to entering large strings of numbers to browse the internet...
[09:41] <airtonix> Phylo: your cards working....alla the repsonse of your pongs to its ip address
[09:41] <Phylo> right.
[09:41] <kaiserkoln> quien quiera decorar muy bello su kubuntu que se aplique este tutorial: http://thehunter.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/instalar-y-configurar-kubuntu-704-feisty-fawn/
[09:41] <foug> airtonix: what about irc? that's what i use to download mostly everything
[09:41] <airtonix> Phylo: but now the next hop of the connection is the www......so try pinging this : <IP_ADDRESS>)
[09:42] <zcat[1] > Phylo: bah, back in my day we have to enter ip addresses in binary!
[09:42] <airtonix> phylo: without the bracket
[09:42] <Phylo> lol
[09:42] <Phylo> one sec
[09:42] <piNNoy> is there anyway to make the caps in beryl lighter or darker?
[09:42] <airtonix> zcat[1] : boyah....real surfing
[09:42] <variant> Phylo: use ctrl c to exit a program, ctrl z only pauses it
[09:42] <airtonix> variant: then how to unpause it
[09:42] <Phylo> ok, getting times
[09:42] <Phylo> 0% lost
[09:42] <airtonix> Phylo: sweet
[09:42] <variant> airtonix: %
[09:42] <airtonix> Phylo: you have google
[09:42] <Phylo> indeed :-)
[09:43] <Phylo> too bad firefox doesn't know that :-(
[09:43] <airtonix> variant: simply type percentage sisgn??
[09:43] <airtonix> Phylo: well
[09:43] <Caplain> zie, whats the issue?
[09:43] <variant> airtonix: run top, press ctrl z. then type "jobs"
[09:43] <airtonix> Phylo: hmmm
[09:43] <zcat[1] > I guess configuring a dns server or two might be the next step..
[09:43] <airtonix> Phylo: okies open system -> administration -> networking
[09:43] <variant> airtonix: if htere is one stopped job then the % sign will restart it, if ther is more than one then you would restart the appropriate one with %1 or %2 etc
[09:44] <airtonix> variant: ahhh kools
[09:44] <variant> airtonix: top will also show the proccess in "stopped" state
[09:44] <Phylo> ok
[09:44] <airtonix> Phylo: then got the DNS section
[09:44] <variant> airtonix: does he use dhcp to get an address?
[09:44] <airtonix> Phylo: have you got firefox open right now?
[09:44] <Phylo> yes@variante
[09:44] <airtonix> variant: not sure
[09:44] <piNNoy> is there anyway to make the caps in beryl lighter or darker?        my backround example: http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i152/piNNoy/poopu/newbackround.png
[09:44] <Phylo> *variant*
[09:44] <zcat[1] > DHCP should be giving some valid nameservers too..
[09:44] <variant> Phylo: then you should already have dns setup
[09:44] <Phylo> yes I have it open righ tnow
[09:45] <variant> Phylo: open a terminal and type "cat /etc/resolv.conf"
[09:45] <variant> Phylo: that will list your name servers
[09:45] <variant> Phylo: if any
[09:45] <Phylo> search domain_not_set.invalid :-(
[09:45] <variant> airtonix: sorry to interrupt :) I know you were getting to the same info too
[09:46] <airtonix> piNNoy: ummm you looked throught the berl-settins-manager?
[09:46] <piNNoy> yeah u can only change cube color
[09:46] <piNNoy> not cap color
[09:46] <airtonix> variant: scoolyou seem to be going more diret way
[09:46] <zie> caplain, need help. do i ask you
[09:46] <airtonix> piNNoy: make png of your choice?
[09:46] <protocol1> I am trying to install gnome themes and it doesnt seem to work
[09:46] <variant> Phylo: not sure about setting the transparancy of the caps..
[09:46] <zcat[1] > make a cap bitmap... I think it has to be sware or powers of two or something..
[09:46] <zcat[1] > *square
[09:47] <airtonix> protocol1: what file tpye are you starting with
[09:47] <piNNoy> var: hmm i typed that and i see it 'search academic.remingtonadmin.edu' thats my school... can that be why my wifi isent connecting at home?
[09:47] <Phylo> that was my list of servers... search domain_not_set.invalid
[09:47] <piNNoy> air: the top and bottom of the cube
[09:47] <piNNoy> air: aka caps
[09:47] <zcat[1] > make a bitmap of 1024x1024 and it should be happy with it :)
[09:47] <airtonix> piNNoy: they can use SVG as well
[09:47] <piNNoy> SVG?
[09:47] <zcat[1] > mine are just white.. I was sure I did some bitmaps, perhaps that was on the other machine..
[09:47] <Phylo> oh, and "nameserver (ip addy)" too
[09:48] <protocol1> aitonix, tar.gz file
[09:48] <Cosmo_> I forget whats the command to unmount a drive?
[09:48] <mwe> umount
[09:48] <protocol1> airtonix, tar.gz file
[09:48] <airtonix> piNNoy: scalable vector gracphics...an xml based graphic format
[09:48] <foug> airtonix: in <IP_ADDRESS> i went to port forwarding and made "application: xchat    start: port#  end: port#"
[09:48] <piNNoy> !svg
[09:48] <ubotu> svg is Scalable Vector Graphics, a language used for graphical applications in XML, and a W3 recommendation. SVG Editors: Inkscape, Karbon14
[09:48] <foug> airtonix: and the download is not working
[09:48] <variant> Phylo: sorry, not sure what you mean there. please put /etc/resolv.conf on pastebin
[09:48] <HKJGN_> lol. well, that sucked
[09:48] <Bradford> DOES anyone know about PPC
[09:49] <zcat[1] > Bradford: very little
[09:49] <airtonix> foug: your needt oopen those ports on your firewall in ubunt.....got firestarter installed?
[09:49] <piNNoy> var: hmm i typed that and i see it 'search academic.remingtonadmin.edu' thats my school... can that be why my wifi isent connecting at home?
[09:49] <zcat[1] > Bradford: you had a question?
[09:49] <variant> foug: does that open dcc ports or just some irc server port?
[09:49] <airtonix> protocol1: okies tried dragging nad dropping it onto the theme manger gui?
[09:49] <protocol1> airtonix, I am trying to drag that to the theme manager
[09:49] <foug> airtonix: yes
[09:49] <foug> variant: heh, dunno
[09:49] <protocol1> let me try it again
[09:49] <Phylo> it's only two lines.  I enter "cat /etc/resolv.conf" and it returns "search domain_not_set.invalid
[09:49] <foug> variant: i went to the xchat FAQ
[09:49] <HKJGN_> btw, Envy rocks
[09:49] <variant> foug: see if you can open the "dcc" service port
[09:49] <HKJGN_> lol
[09:49] <variant> foug: ok
[09:49] <mwe> !ppc | Bradford
[09:49] <ubotu> Bradford: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[09:49] <Caplain> zie, what do you need help with?
[09:49] <Phylo> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[09:49] <airtonix> protocol1: okies then its not packaged properly
[09:49] <foug> variant: put DCC under application?
[09:49] <piNNoy> !wifi
[09:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:50] <variant> Phylo: ok, that means that your router is the primary name server
[09:50] <airtonix> protocol1: unpack it forst then see inside
[09:50] <variant> Phylo: that also means that your router has to have valid name servers set
[09:50] <variant> Phylo: whatever your ISP provides
[09:50] <foug> airtonix: in firestarter i add all the ports i opened?
[09:50] <airtonix> foug: i have for my eaxcmple above opened ports 9999 for everyone
[09:50] <HKJGN_> now i am boreded 9_9! lol
[09:51] <Phylo> variant:  ... so where do I find what to enter, and where do I enter it?
[09:51] <zcat[1] > the only thing more annoying than people asking to ask a question is people who ask and then don't follow up with an actual question at all..
[09:51] <variant> Phylo: have you used that router successfully on the internet before?
[09:51] <mwe> my router had the nameservers set when it came from my ISP
[09:51] <foug> airtonix: i don't understand anything about ports
[09:51] <telejedi> when will ubuntu-studio be out ?
[09:51] <Phylo> yes, via Windows ME
[09:51] <variant> Phylo: ugghhhhhh
[09:51] <variant> Phylo: anyway
[09:51] <protocol1> airtonix, ok I got it
[09:51] <Phylo> I know lol
[09:51] <foug> variant: it didn't save my settings even though i said save, did i name it wrong or something?
[09:51] <Phylo> also via WinXP
[09:51] <airtonix> foug : each stream of data requries an open port
[09:52] <airtonix> foug : your network card hass the potential to open 64000 odd ports
[09:52] <protocol1> airtonix, the file I wanted to use wasn't packaged right
[09:52] <zie> nevermind i got it
[09:52] <Phylo> airtonix:  not 65536?
[09:52] <Caplain> zie, im going to bed
[09:52] <variant> Phylo: ok, in the terminal type "dhclient eth0" (change eth0 to whatever device you use to connect to the internet)
[09:52] <foug> airtonix: i see
[09:52] <airtonix> foug : your familar with nos : 80(web) 110(ftp),
[09:52] <zie> ok
[09:52] <jnc> foug: 2^16 minus 1, to be more accurate ;P
[09:52] <zie> ive got it
[09:52] <foug> airtonix: not at all
[09:53] <HKJGN_> lol
[09:53] <Phylo> variant:  ok I got a bunch of stuff
[09:53] <foug> jnc: whatever works
[09:53] <airtonix> protocol1: okies unpack it....it might be more than one them in the whole package
[09:53] <zcat[1] > that's tcp ports. there's another 65536 udp ports available too.. and tunnels..
[09:53] <variant> Phylo: now try "ping www.google.com
[09:53] <airtonix> foug : well those are the numbers for web pages or http traffic and ftp trafffic
[09:53] <Phylo> noting yet
[09:53] <foug> airtonix: got'cha
[09:54] <airtonix> yeah the whole network traffic is antooher level literrally of logic
[09:54] <variant> Phylo: doh, leave it a few momments. there was a bug recently that caused very slow resolution
[09:54] <Phylo> unknown host
[09:54] <variant> Phylo: doh
[09:54] <Phylo> lol, I used ath0
[09:54] <airtonix> brb
[09:54] <ziroday> !offtopic
[09:54] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:54] <Dquestions2> hi
[09:54] <variant> Phylo: please pastbin the output of ifconfig
[09:55] <Dquestions2> so i fucked up my wired connection by trying to fix wireless on my mbp
[09:55] <Dquestions2> is there any way to "reload" the old drivers using the cd?
[09:55] <Dquestions2> i used the live cd for installation
[09:55] <variant> Phylo: you can use: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/paste
[09:55] <Phylo> working on that:
[09:56] <variant> Phylo: or not.. wonder why that doesn't work
[09:56] <Phylo> it's ok I found it (I just plugged in via ethernet cable)
[09:56] <variant> Phylo: ok, cool
[09:56] <Phylo> but how do I copy&paste? X-D
[09:57] <foug> variant: i made the application dcc and made it tcp like some guide said and it still isn't working
[09:57] <variant> Phylo: right click/copy/paste
[09:57] <Dquestions2> hmm
[09:57] <zcat[1] > ^C / ^V just like 'doze
[09:57] <airtonix> foug: ok so on my router i tell it to forwared traffic it recieves on its 9999 port to a mchine in my network <IP_ADDRESS> on its port 9999
[09:57] <foug> variant: neither of the ones i made saved either, i don't see them anywhere
[09:57] <variant> foug: sorry, dunno mate
[09:57] <foug> airtonix: k
[09:57] <Phylo> lol, havent' used the mouse for that in forever...  zcat[1] , that didn't work
[09:57] <airtonix> foug : are you doing torrents?
[09:57] <variant> i'm at work, phone. brb
[09:57] <foug> airtonix: no irc downloads, DCC
[09:58] <airtonix> foug : ahhh no idea then
[09:58] <foug> airtonix: ughhh
[09:58] <HKJGN> well, if that didnt just screw up my pc
[09:58] <HKJGN> X.x
[09:58] <airtonix> foug : logically it hould be the same unless its using more than one port then youll need to add more than one port on the right protocol
[09:58] <zcat[1] > hmm.. right mouse button.. or highlight and drag works quite often. Or highlight, switch apps and middle-click to paste
[09:58] <HKJGN> -is hikyuu from earlier
[09:58] <foug> airtonix: i don't know if i'm forwarding the ports correctly
[09:58] <Phylo> variant...   I can't paste it... I says "Query failure: Can't open file: 'pastebin.MYI'. (errno: 145)
[09:59] <protocol1> airtonix, when I extract the file...which one do I use for installing
[09:59] <Phylo> and about another 20 lines
[09:59] <Phylo> (this happened when I clicked send
[09:59] <foug> airtonix: and i don't know where to go to add whatever to whichever protocol :|
[09:59] <Phylo> )
[09:59] <HKJGN> now my videos all screwed up, im in recovery mode, can anyone assist me?
[09:59] <protocol1> airtonix, the xml file?
[09:59] <airtonix> foug : does you router have a web interface? mine is stupidly called "applications& gaming"
[09:59] <foug> airtonix: yea that's where i am at
[10:00] <foug> airtonix: i tried adding 2 things to that so far and neither have worked, or saved it seems
[10:00] <airtonix> protocol1: open a file browser
[10:00] <airtonix> protocol1: to ~
[10:00] <zcat[1] > pinholing's a bitch
[10:00] <airtonix> foug: wow...dodgey router?
[10:00] <HKJGN> how do i find out my graphics drivers in comand line?
[10:00] <foug> airtonix: what do you mean?
[10:01] <variant> foug: disable firestarter
[10:01] <airtonix> protocol1: or just goto your home folder
[10:01] <foug> airtonix: i don't know if i added them correctly in the first place
[10:01] <robert98374> hello everyone
[10:01] <ziroday> hi
[10:01] <siloko> hi
[10:01] <protocol1> airtonix, ok
[10:01] <piNNoy> ok on my wifi in terminal i cant find the correct channel but when i type iwlist scan i see the correct cell - Cell 04 (how do i set that as channel?)  example: iwconfig ath0 channel "CELL 04">?
[10:01] <airtonix> foug: ohh but you pressed the save settings button surely?
[10:01] <bawlsfan06> hello, has anyone else here been experiencing random freezes in feisty fawn?
[10:01] <zcat[1] > usually you have to do some 'save and reboot' thing before they tahe effect..
[10:01] <foug> airtonix: yes
[10:01] <airtonix> protocol1: then press ctrl+l
[10:01] <Phylo> variant/airtonix:  so I have google... but firefox doesn't know that
[10:02] <airtonix> protocol1: then append this to the current path : .themes
[10:02] <robert98374> Does anyone know where i can find a simple way to mount an iso?
[10:02] <airtonix> Phylo: ja you got it open now
[10:02] <variant> Phylo: it's because your name servers are not being served correctly by your routers
[10:02] <variant> Phylo: do you know the login details for your router?
[10:02] <Phylo> airtonix:  no, I pinged it successfully (earlier when you said to)
[10:02] <zcat[1] > robert98374: right-click, but it to a cd, eject, pop the CD back in.
[10:02] <airtonix> Phylo: firefox i meant ...if so then type that ip address igave you awhile aog and see what appened
[10:02] <foug> airtonix: i just edited my xchat.config and added the ports there, do you think that will work/
[10:02] <Phylo> variant:  I'm pretty sure I do
[10:02] <zcat[1] > *burn not but
[10:02] <piNNoy> ok on my wifi in terminal i cant find the correct channel but when i type iwlist scan i see the correct cell - Cell 04 (how do i set that as channel?)  example: iwconfig ath0 channel "CELL 04">?
[10:02] <variant> Phylo: or do you have the connection settings provided by your isp?
[10:03] <airtonix> foug : unlikely
[10:03] <HKJGN> god..
[10:03] <phire> how can I change my sound buffer in feisty?
[10:03] <HKJGN> im just going to kill my pc
[10:03] <Phylo> variant:  I don't even know what connection settings you are referring to
[10:03] <protocol1> airtonix, put the folder I extracted in there or the .gz file
[10:03] <foug> airtonix: there's a setting called "dcc_ip = "
[10:03] <foug> airtonix: it's left blank, should i add my ip?
[10:03] <airtonix> protocol1: yeah you can dump tar.gz or unpacked folders
[10:03] <Phylo> variant:  I just know all the passwords, WEP key, ESSID, etc
[10:03] <protocol1> ok
[10:03] <protocol1> will do both
[10:03] <zcat[1] > robert98374: or alt-F2 and type "gksu mount -o loop foo.iso /media/cdrom/ " should work
[10:03] <variant> Phylo: was your router pre configured to connect to your isp? (did they provide it?)
[10:03] <robert98374> zcat so i am assuming there isnt an easy way?
[10:04] <airtonix> foug : mmmm i hae irc tranfers...i think this is your router IP....not sure
[10:04] <Phylo> variant:  hmm, I guess it was, I don't recall setting anythin gup
[10:04] <variant> airtonix: see if he has firestarter...
[10:04] <piNNoy> how do i check which drivers my wireless card is using?
[10:04] <foug> airtonix: the downloads worked just fine in windows, never had a problem
[10:04] <robert98374> ok ill try the script one thanks
[10:04] <zcat[1] > robert98374: alt-F2 "gksu mount -o loop foo.iso /media/cdrom/ " is about the easiest I can think of
[10:04] <HKJGN> sigh, well, i installed the drivers using Envy, and it destroyed my monitor visual, it was all chopped up and etc
[10:05] <airtonix> foug : yeah you got firestarter installed? for easy manipulation of yourr firewall
[10:05] <foug> airtonix: i found this http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=3398 dunno if that's useful, i really know nothing about networking
[10:05] <zcat[1] > robert98374: Desktop/foo.iso if the ISO was downloaded to your desktop
[10:05] <Phylo> variant/airtonix:  well, I entered "http://(googleip)" and it loaded the page
[10:05] <foug> airtonix: yes it's disabled
[10:05] <variant> Phylo: ok, so. can you login to your router (normally in firefox you can open "http://<IP_ADDRESS>" but this can be different depending on router, you will have to check the router manual
[10:05] <airtonix> enablbe it
[10:05] <airtonix> foug: enable it
[10:05] <Phylo> so something to do with nameservers definitely sounds like the problem
[10:05] <piNNoy> how do i check which drivers my wireless card is running?
[10:05] <foug> airtonix: o it's active
[10:05] <airtonix> then goto the events panel
[10:05] <foug> k
[10:05] <variant> Phylo: yes, thats because you are skipping the domain name entirely and going direct to one of googles servers (load balancer actually but..)
[10:05] <airtonix> now try to to dcc activity
[10:05] <foug> airtonix: it's blank
[10:05] <siloko> are you using networkmanager to connect
[10:06] <Phylo> variant:  well I haven't "logged in", but I opened my router's page
[10:06] <airtonix> goto the prefs and there is an area to show all events
[10:06] <foug> airtonix: how? i don't see the option to
[10:06] <mrmonday> why do I need root access to back up my home folder?
[10:06] <variant> Phylo: ok, login
[10:06] <mrmonday> surely I have permisions for it all?
[10:06] <Phylo> where...?
[10:06] <variant> Phylo: or does it display any information on the first page without loggin in?
[10:06] <thelostpatrol> is there any way to make x-chat minimize when you hit X?
[10:06] <airtonix> foug: file r edit-> preferencese
[10:06] <foug> airtonix: there's nothing under events, what should i add/
[10:06] <variant> Phylo: does it display "primary dns" and "secondary dns"?
[10:06] <airtonix> thelostpatrol: a plugin
[10:06] <thelostpatrol> airtonix, know the name?
[10:07] <airtonix> foug its an output winow. have you stated some dcc activity?
[10:07] <Phylo> variant:  it's got the network status, the list of connected devices, and some other stuff
[10:07] <variant> Phylo: what isp are you with?
[10:07] <foug> airtonix: well yea but the download isn't starting
[10:07] <Phylo> I don't see dns
[10:07] <Phylo> verizon
[10:07] <foug> airtonix: it just sits at 0%
[10:07] <variant> Phylo: what state?
[10:07] <airtonix> thelostpatrol: sorry....search google for : ubuntu xchat-gnome plugins
[10:07] <Phylo> CA
[10:07] <airtonix> foug go back to the evenets
[10:07] <robert98374> Zcat do i put in the name of the Iso instead of foo?
[10:07] <foug> airtonix: k
[10:07] <Dquestions2> hi guys... if i fucked up my drivers for the ethernet... is there any way to use the Live CD (feisty) to reinstall them?
[10:07] <r2d4> I have the open source drivers installed for my ATI Radeon 9600 in Feisty. Is it OK to just use Envy to install the proprietary drivers? Or should I do something else first like manually remove the open drivers?
[10:07] <thelostpatrol> airtonix, thanks, i will
[10:07] <airtonix> foug: did you change the preferences of firestarter to show all events
[10:08] <foug> airtonix: no
[10:08] <zcat[1] > robert98374: yes.
[10:08] <ziroday> r2d4: ati dont support that card envy wont work
[10:08] <Phylo> variant:  ok I found two "DNS Address #x"
[10:08] <robert98374> kk thanks
[10:08] <aburrent> i have a matrox grafix card and I want to upgrade to a new nvidia quadro4 card...is there a way to make X detect and reconfigure?
[10:08] <airtonix> foug so or it will stay blank
[10:08] <airtonix> foug: then you will need to go to the policy section
[10:09] <zcat[1] > Dquestions2: that depends.. did you mess up the drivers, or just settings?
[10:09] <variant> Phylo: excellent
[10:09] <robert98374> Zcat it gave the error Could not open location 'file:///"gksu mount -o loop UNREAL_GOLD.iso /Desktop/UNREAL_GOLD.iso'
[10:09] <variant> Phylo: what are they?
[10:09] <foug> airtonix: i don't see where to show all events
[10:09] <robert98374> The location or file could not be found.
[10:09] <r2d4> ziroday: Hmm. It didn't work now like you say. But I am pretty sure I installed fine an year ago.
[10:09] <Phylo> <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:09] <ziroday> aburrent: dpkg-reconfigure phigh xserver-xorg
[10:09] <Dquestions2> zcat[1] ,  i'm not sure
[10:09] <airtonix> foug: im looking now
[10:09] <r2d4> ziroday: I manually installed the driver then.
[10:09] <Phylo> I tried going to that ip in a new tab, it hasn't loaded yet
[10:09] <ziroday> r2d4: lemme gues  bad resolution
[10:09] <zcat[1] > robert98374: type the command without the quotes
[10:09] <Loco> hi anyone knows how to install or enable the skydome feature in beryl?
[10:09] <aburrent> ziroday: when I put the card in, X won't start...so I should do that at the command line?
[10:09] <Cosmo_> after my system is up for about 12+ hours all my USB ports seem to go dead (including my mouse) how do I fix this? (I am using 7.04 fiesty fawn)
[10:10] <ziroday> aburrent: yes
[10:10] <airtonix> foug: untick 'hide redudnant entries'
[10:10] <r2d4> ziroday: yes.
[10:10] <variant> Phylo: ok, open up /etc/resolv.conf in a text editor (gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf) and remove everything thats there, copy each of the DNS address into that file each on it's own line
[10:10] <robert98374> lol
[10:10] <foug> airtonix: it was, nothing shows up
[10:10] <MaskedMan> Can i get some help, I'm sorta new to Linux
[10:10] <eshaase> ok, i'm having major system failures, I've noticed my computer freezing from time to time and I just noticed in a shell that when i execute ls i get: bash: /bin/ls: input/output error and when i execute rm xxx i get: rm: cannot remove '...': read-only file system... i figured my partition was full but that isn't the case... anyone have any ideas?
[10:10] <robert98374> wow i feel duh
[10:10] <variant> Phylo: yes, they are not websites, you can't browse to them. just do what i just said and save the file
[10:10] <aburrent> ziroday: I'll give it a try...thanks
[10:10] <Phylo> can I just enter those as "Domain servers" in my network settings?
[10:10] <variant> Phylo: yes!
[10:11] <airtonix> foug: then goto firewll -> advanced
[10:11] <foug> airtonix: wait they show now
[10:11] <variant> Phylo: was just gonna do my way as a quick test to see if it worked
[10:11] <jpiccolo> question: if i install xfce4 on a server install will it add startup services?
[10:11] <eck> eshaase: check dmesg and /var/log/messages
[10:11] <foug> airtonix: i see 2 events
[10:11] <airtonix> foug: what are the ip's?
[10:11] <robert98374> zcat where did it mount it?
[10:11] <airtonix> foug: woops ont post
[10:11] <variant> jpiccolo: afaik, it might add gdm
[10:11] <MaskedMan> ...
[10:11] <ziroday> r2d4: i ahve the same card and bassically with the new kernel ati only updated some of the drivers the others were left in the dust. So only the open source drivers or a older distro
[10:11] <airtonix> foug : lol
[10:11] <eshaase> eck: dmesg only applies to my current session correct?
[10:11] <foug> airtonix: lol
[10:11] <fotoflo> whats the ubuntu chinese channel?
[10:11] <variant> jpiccolo: although i'm not certain
[10:11] <variant> !chinese
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chinese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <airtonix> foug: ping those ips...
[10:11] <variant> !cz
[10:11] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[10:11] <r2d4> ziroday: I am just unhappy with the performance of Beryl and wondered if the closed drivers would help.
[10:11] <variant> er
[10:11] <zcat[1] > robert98374: I would have expected a cd to appear on the desktop.. but you might have to go digging .. it should be in /media/cdrom/
[10:11] <foug> airtonix: how? ping # in terminal?
[10:11] <eck> eshaase: it is a log of all the messages the kernel has printed since you started up
[10:11] <jpiccolo> variant, do but i would be able to disable that on startup and only start it when needed, right
[10:12] <eshaase> eck: actually doesn't dmesg and /var/log/messages only apply to my current session?
[10:12] <ziroday> !zh | fotoflo
[10:12] <ubotu> fotoflo: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[10:12] <variant> jpiccolo: absolutly
[10:12] <airtonix> foug: woops again are they your ip addresses?
[10:12] <r2d4> ziroday: I guess I should just leave Beryl till I upgrade.
[10:12] <eshaase> eck: well i had to reboot so it won't be in there
[10:12] <eck> eshaase: there are archives in /var/log as well
[10:12] <foug> airtonix: i don't think so
[10:12] <fotoflo> thanks
[10:12] <Phylo> variant:  well I set them, (I left "Search Domain" with that invalid thing)
[10:12] <variant> Phylo: so, it's working right?
[10:12] <jpiccolo> variant, and that would be the only thing that i should look for right?
[10:12] <r2d4> ziroday: How is compositing for you?
[10:12] <Phylo> I clicked close
[10:12] <airtonix> ok they show up coz they are being blocked
[10:12] <piNNoy> ok on my wifi in terminal i cant find the correct channel but when i type iwlist scan i see the correct cell - Cell 04 (how do i set that as channel?)  example: iwconfig ath0 channel "CELL 04">?
[10:12] <eshaase> eck: where are the archives?
[10:12] <ziroday> r2d4: you can try but envy will give you a module mismatch error
[10:12] <Phylo> went to www.google.com and it's still not loaded
[10:12] <variant> Phylo: take out search domain entirely
[10:12] <eck> eshaase: i think they are not strictly rotated once per boot session, so you have a good chance of finding older stuff
[10:12] <MaskedMan> can someone help me in a PM
[10:12] <ziroday> r2d4: as long as i dont go overboard pretty god
[10:12] <Phylo> (restarting firefox)
[10:12] <kraut> moin
[10:12] <variant> Phylo: please add the name servers in the way i initially asked. by directly adding them to /etc/resolv.conf
[10:13] <zcat[1] > robert98374: actually it might be easier to just right-click and extract it like an archive. I didn't realise that was an option even!
[10:13] <eck> eshaase: /var/log/messages.[1-9] .gz etc.
[10:13] <airtonix> foug: does it start with 192.168...?
[10:13] <variant> Phylo: you don't need to restart firefox...
[10:13] <piNNoy> can someone answer my ? pls
[10:13] <foug> airtonix: yes
[10:13] <airtonix> foug : they are your IP addressess
[10:13] <r2d4> ziroday: Is the default effects - not overboard? or did you tweak down?
[10:13] <airtonix> foug : most likley
[10:13] <foug> airtonix: k
[10:13] <HKJGN_> ATIs drivers destroyed my resolution, how can i fix this?
[10:13] <variant> Phylo: please just _only_ do what I ask.. i can't help if your doing other stuff that you think might help (no offence but your not as experienced)
[10:13] <ziroday> r2d4: default was fine
[10:13] <piNNoy> ok on my wifi in terminal i cant find the correct channel but when i type iwlist scan i see the correct cell - Cell 04 (how do i set that as channel?)  example: iwconfig ath0 channel "CELL 04">?
[10:13] <airtonix> foug: in the coloumn next tothat isthe port that that particular event occured on
[10:14] <robert98374> Zcat lol
[10:14] <Phylo> variant:  that's ok  :-)  I got back to where I was
[10:14] <ziroday> HKJGN_: what gfx card?
[10:14] <Phylo> gonna do that edit now
[10:14] <eshaase> eck: ok, i'll take a look
[10:14] <eshaase> eck: thanks
[10:14] <HKJGN_> ziroday: X800gt
[10:14] <ziroday> r2d4: all i learnt was never ever buy ati
[10:14] <variant> Phylo: great, make sure you remove everything that is there to start with
[10:14] <r2d4> ziroday: My CPU is Athlon XP 2000+. Pretty old. Does Beryl make a difference on CPU or just the GPU?
[10:14] <robert98374> thw whole reason is that i am trying to install something in wine from it
[10:14] <foug> airtonix: they happened yesterday
[10:14] <foug> airtonix: i don't think they are my dcc activity
[10:14] <ziroday> r2d4: not sure you can always go to #beryl and ask
[10:14] <airtonix> foug: what is the port number
[10:14] <HKJGN_> ziroday: i used Envy to install the ATI drivers cause they werent compatible with X 7.2.0
[10:14] <piNNoy> ok on my wifi in terminal i cant find the correct channel but when i type iwlist scan i see the correct cell - Cell 04 (how do i set that as channel?)  example: iwconfig ath0 channel "CELL 04">?
[10:14] <airtonix> foug: is it 137 or 6666
[10:14] <foug> airtonix: 36---
[10:15] <gordonjcp> why does Ubuntu use Evolution instead of Thunderbird?
[10:15] <zcat[1] > r2d4: I'm running beryl on a 1ghz cpu here.. mostly it wants GPU power..
[10:15] <airtonix> foug: ohh not local then
[10:15] <r2d4> ziroday: Ah! Will do that.
[10:15] <piNNoy> ..........!
[10:15] <eck> gordonjcp: because evolution is a gnome project, thunderbird is not
[10:15] <bullgard4> What is the effect of the C instruction "struct x y;"?
[10:15] <zcat[1] > .. I'm also running it on a really old nvidia card.
[10:15] <HKJGN_> ziroday: but it just trashed my Gnome-XGL session, im on regular Gnome session right now
[10:15] <airtonix> foug: that is to sya its not a typcial local netowkr thing other than mysql
[10:15] <ziroday> HKJGN_: whats the max resolution you can get?
[10:15] <r2d4> zcat[1] : thanks.
[10:15] <foug> airtonix: ahh
[10:15] <eshaase> eck: i found three suspecious lines
[10:15] <foug> airtonix: well it was yesterday
[10:15] <Phylo> variant:  enter it with or without "nameserver " before it?
[10:15] <gordonjcp> eck: but evolution doesn't work very well, and doesn't appear to be maintained
[10:15] <eshaase> eck: 4 actually
[10:15] <eck> bullgard4: it declares the variable y whose type is struct x
[10:15] <variant> Phylo: without
[10:15] <airtonix> foug: mysql serves its dat out of 3306 it hink
[10:15] <HKJGN_> ziroday: no idea, uhm 12xx X 800
[10:15] <eck> gordonjcp: it is maintained, and works very well (except for the bugs...)
[10:15] <variant> Phylo: _only_ the ip addresses, one on each line
[10:16] <Phylo> k, edited, saved, exited
[10:16] <gordonjcp> eck: it's had the same showstopper bug for about a year
[10:16] <zcat[1] > gotta go..
[10:16] <airtonix> foug : ok then you choose a port to dcc on?
[10:16] <variant> Phylo: now try ping www.google.com
[10:16] <foug> airtonix: how?
[10:16] <gordonjcp> eck: you cannot reply as plaintext-only to an html email, for instance
[10:16] <ziroday> HKJGN_: did you get the proper resolution before installing the ati frivers?
[10:16] <Phylo> unknown host
[10:16] <airtonix> foug pick one? lik 4444 or 6566
[10:16] <bullgard4> eck: Thank you very much.
[10:16] <variant> Phylo: grr
[10:16] <variant> Phylo: ok
[10:16] <airtonix> foug : or 63000
[10:16] <HKJGN_> ziroday: Envy changed my X.org automatically
[10:16] <HKJGN_> ziroday: so i guess not
[10:16] <airtonix> foug: its your choice
[10:16] <eck> gordonjcp: are you sure? all of my outgoing emails are in plaintext
[10:16] <Phylo> (although it returned that instantly instead of waiting a few seconds)
[10:16] <foug> airtonix: i don't understand, where am i typing this in at
[10:17] <mrmonday> how do I write 5gb files to a fat32 partition?
[10:17] <moDumass> with ubuntu clock, it says click to view appoinments and tasks, but i cannot for the life of me add neither appointments nor tasks
[10:17] <moDumass> any ideas?
[10:17] <airtonix> foug: but you will need to specify that to the route rso it can port forwared it
[10:17] <ziroday> HKJGN_: so what exactly is the issue resolution or something else?
[10:17] <variant> Phylo: sorry, my mistake. your need to have "nameserver ipaddress" in /etc/resolv.conf
[10:17] <eck> mrmonday: you can't, the limit is 4 GB
[10:17] <mrmonday> eck, Iknow
[10:17] <airtonix> the port number you choose will go into the web page that you usee to control your port forwarding
[10:17] <eck> mrmonday: use another filesystem, it is impossible
[10:17] <kaiserkoln> mr, 5x1024=
[10:17] <zie> how do i convert videos in linux
[10:17] <zie> how do i convert videos in linux
[10:17] <gordonjcp> eck: try replying to an email from eBay
[10:17] <Phylo> so add "nameserver " to the beginning of each line?
[10:17] <foug> airtonix: ok i picked ports
[10:17] <airtonix> foug: can you empty the wbpage form of data and screenshot it for me
[10:18] <gordonjcp> eck: or indeed, any other email in HTML format
[10:18] <variant> Phylo: yes
[10:18] <HKJGN_> ziroday: i'd guess resolution, the screens all, well, distorted and etc, lines going across the screen and nothing is readable
[10:18] <variant> Phylo: exactly
[10:18] <foug> airtonix: it's the thing under applications & gaming, port forwarding
[10:18] <zie> how do i convert videos in linux
[10:18] <moDumass> BTW i broke X rebooted got that grey screen that says "you mashed wanna see a list of things you broke" and i fixed it via command line, it was as if i was channel kevin mtnick
[10:18] <Phylo> YAAAAY
[10:18] <airtonix> foug: lol you have a linksys too?
[10:18] <variant> Phylo: great
[10:18] <Phylo> I entered the wrong IPS
[10:18] <foug> airtonix: yes
[10:18] <moDumass> if he was a drummer for def leopard and only had one arm
[10:18] <HKJGN_> ziroday: like when you set a resolution the monitor cant handle
[10:18] <Phylo> (by one number)
[10:18] <variant> Phylo: lol :P
[10:18] <zie> i need to convert a .ogg file to an avi or mpg file.
[10:18] <zie> so i need help
[10:18] <mrmonday> eck, I have to use fat32 to back up my files to, and some of my files are too big
[10:18] <tomplast> Hi people. Could anyone help we with finding some floppy distro which has usb support? I really want Ubuntu installed on my old laptop (no internet atm, needs ndiswrapper or kernel compilation, no cdrom)?. Help is appreciated.
[10:18] <Phylo> I double checked it and it pinged
[10:18] <airtonix> foug : AG241?
[10:18] <foug> airtonix: not sure
[10:18] <foug> airtonix: where do i find out?
[10:19] <airtonix> foug: says on the front
[10:19] <variant> Phylo: ok, add them to the dns settings in the gui, as /etc/resolv.conf will be reset by the startup scripts depending on what you put in that gui
[10:19] <Phylo> I love you...
[10:19] <zie> if anyone could help that would be good
[10:19] <mrmonday> eck, what can I do?
[10:19] <ziroday> HKJGN_: um rite if its resolution then you have to add the resolution to your xorg do you know how to do that?
[10:19] <eck> mrmonday: you need to use another filesystem. you _cannot_ put them on fat32. you can use split to split up the files into smaller chunks, but it will be a pita
[10:19] <variant> Phylo: I know i know... :)
[10:19] <HKJGN_> ziroday: yeah
[10:19] <airtonix> foug: is it 4 port as well?
[10:19] <ziroday> HKJGN_: have you done it yet?
[10:19] <Phylo> variant:  lol, I don't know what you mean though... oh nvm
[10:19] <foug> airtonix: yes
[10:19] <Phylo> what I tried to do earlier?
[10:19] <foug> airtonix: 4 port switch ?
[10:19] <Phylo> (what I did)
[10:20] <airtonix> foug: little ellipse on the front with adsl2 gateway
[10:20] <zie> anyone know how to convert video files into mpg or avi in lunux. if you do let me know. thanks
[10:20] <fat_ass> c
[10:20] <variant> Phylo: yeah, in the network-manager on the DNS tab put in those ip addresses
[10:20] <mrmonday> eck, whats a pita?
[10:20] <foug> airtonix: nah i don't think so
[10:20] <HKJGN_> ziroday: not yet, i think i might know how to fix it, just have to ask a question, if i change my resolution in one Session, will it stay the same in another session? "Gnome to Gnome with XGL?"
[10:20] <ziroday> zie: how large cause you can try online
[10:20] <airtonix> foug : okies no need forscreenie then
[10:20] <eck> mrmonday: google it ;-)
[10:20] <Wries1> my media player gxine is not playing any of my mp3 files, is there another music player I can use?
[10:20] <foug> airtonix:  k
[10:20] <zie> its a .ogg file
[10:20] <gordonjcp> eck: filing a bug elicts the response "Don't use HTML mail then"
[10:20] <Phylo> mother...
[10:20] <variant> Phylo: you will also have to change what happens when you connect. in the main tab select your network interface and click properites, from there you have to UNTICK "get dns servers automatically" or whatever it's called
[10:20] <Phylo> I was still plugged in...
[10:21] <variant> Phylo: annoying, should still work though
[10:21] <zie> ziroday, its a .ogg
[10:21] <Phylo> phew...
[10:21] <moDumass> hmmm, in clock how do i add tasks or appointments?
[10:21] <airtonix> foug: ok the application coloum is for your beneifit and smnp apps
[10:21] <Phylo> it looked like it wasn't working but it did
[10:21] <ziroday> HKJGN_: i think for all
[10:21] <variant> Phylo: :P
[10:21] <ziroday> zie: online you can at www.media-convert.org
[10:21] <eck> gordonjcp: on the gnome bugzilla?
[10:21] <airtonix> foug: the external port no is the one the internet seees
[10:21] <zie> ok ill try
[10:22] <airtonix> foug: put the number that others expect to usee...
[10:22] <foug> airtonix: ok...i just put whatever numbers like you told me too
[10:22] <Phylo> what main tab?
[10:22] <zie> www.media-convert.org isnt a website
[10:22] <ziroday> zie: gimme  a min
[10:22] <airtonix> foug : the internal port is the local-network side port no to use.....yeh you can put 9999 for the external and 9999 for internal
[10:22] <zie> ok
[10:22] <variant> Phylo: when you open the networ-settings or whatever it's called, the first thing thats displayed with the list of eth0, wlan0 etc is the "main" tab
[10:23] <Phylo> the wireless connection settings goesn't have anything about dns
[10:23] <foug> airtonix: k, the numbers weren't eh same but ok
[10:23] <Phylo> (properties doesn't have...)
[10:23] <ziroday> zie: here http://media-convert.com/
[10:23] <Wries1> my media player gxine is not playing any of my mp3 files, is there another music player I can use?
[10:23] <foug> airtonix: on this forum it says i need to forward TCP port range 9000-9010 from <IP_ADDRESS>.3.
[10:23] <foug> airtonix: but that IP is too big to type into my box lol
[10:23] <ziroday> Wries1: do you have the codecs?
[10:23] <gordonjcp> eck: yup
[10:23] <zie> pk
[10:23] <gordonjcp> eck: it's basically useless as a mail client
[10:23] <airtonix> foug: ok the ip addressi nthat forum is an aexmaple
[10:23] <eck> gordonjcp: it is basically maintained by novell, i wouldn't be entirely surprised if they do a crappy job at maintaining it. but as it stands evolution is fairly well integrated with a number of the components in gnome
[10:23] <zie> ok
[10:23] <variant> Phylo: the main tab: http://photos8.flickr.com/11230002_ee41ca2d3a.jpg
[10:23] <Cosmo_> after running for about 12+ hours my USB ports stop working (including my mouse)(I am running 7.04 on a desktop) how do I fix this?
[10:24] <gordonjcp> eck: well, not really
[10:24] <airtonix> you put the ip address of the machine that your unnning your irc on
[10:24] <gordonjcp> it's a lash-up
[10:24] <gordonjcp> it doesn't integrate well with anything
[10:24] <eck> gordonjcp: a lot of applications use eds
[10:24] <ChrisCorba> Hey guys, I am trying a fresh install of Feisty on my acer laptop but it always breaks because it cannot find my (ordinary) cdrom. Similar bugs are already reported. How long may it take to wait for a new working install CD?
[10:24] <Phylo> right, that tab->wireless connection->properties->  no dns
[10:24] <variant> Phylo: in that screen, click on the interface you want to configure then click properties
[10:24] <airtonix> foug: for ranges tpye it like 9000-9010
[10:24] <airtonix> in the external
[10:24] <foug> airtonix: i did
[10:24] <airtonix> and internal
[10:24] <foug> airtonix: how do i find out my IP address? lol
[10:24] <airtonix> foug: ohhhhh
[10:24] <Phylo> it does say:  configuration:  automatic (DHCP)
[10:25] <airtonix> foug: sorry wrong place
[10:25] <variant> Phylo: i see what you mean
[10:25] <airtonix> foug erase those
[10:25] <foug> airtonix: ok
[10:25] <variant> Phylo: ok, annoying. a little config file editing is required :/
[10:25] <zie> ziroday, it worked
[10:25] <zie> thanks
[10:25] <Phylo> why do anything further
[10:25] <eck> gordonjcp: evolution is definitely one of my least favorite gnome programs, but I prefer it over thunderbird... i'm not sure what that says about both of them :-\
[10:25] <ziroday> zie: np
[10:25] <Phylo> what is not yet going to work?
[10:26] <variant> Phylo: because when you reboot it will query the router for dns settings again and (i think) overwrite your manually entered dns settings.
[10:26] <Phylo> oook
[10:26] <variant> Phylo: actually, perhaps it will just add to rather than overwrite
[10:26] <Phylo> should I try it?
[10:26] <variant> Phylo: try it, it will probably just add in <IP_ADDRESS> as annother dns server
[10:26] <variant> Phylo: in which case it's not a problem
[10:26] <Phylo> so reboot?
[10:26] <variant> Phylo: might make it take a bit longer to conect to sites though
[10:26] <variant> Phylo: no, just run this
[10:27] <variant> Phylo: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:27] <moDumass> hey all, um, when i hover over minimize, maximise or well pretty much anything on the top border of a window a small thumbnail of that window appears, any idea how to turn that off
[10:27] <variant> Phylo: that should do the trick
[10:27] <moDumass> since it seams rather pointless
[10:27] <ziroday> moDumass: you running beryl
[10:27] <moDumass> it doesnt do it when that window is "rolled up"
[10:27] <variant> Phylo: "reboot" huh...
[10:27] <variant> :)
[10:27] <Phylo> what?
[10:27] <moDumass> ziroday, yeh but that channel well, they say nothing
[10:27] <variant> Phylo: rebooting is what you do with windows
[10:28] <Phylo> I just noticed, that what I pinged www.google.com  it did all the ms times etc, then it  said something about www.l.google.com
[10:28] <variant> Phylo: ;)
[10:28] <Phylo> I just find that interesting
[10:28] <variant> Phylo: yeah thats just a google sub domain
[10:28] <Phylo> oh, in Linux (any) you just restart stuff while the computer keeps going?
[10:28] <variant> Phylo: as the google website runs on more than just one single server or netwrok
[10:28] <Phylo> woah, it's still doing stuff
[10:28] <mrmonday> anyone know some good software for cutting files in half, then gluing them back together?
[10:28] <variant> Phylo: yes, everything except the kenrel
[10:28] <variant> Phylo: kernel
[10:28] <eck> mrmonday: split
[10:28] <ziroday> moDumass: that shouldnt happen try deleting your preferences folder (you will lose all your preferences) in /home/<username>/.beryl
[10:29] <eck> mrmonday: it should be installed by default
[10:29] <Phylo> ok it stopped
[10:29] <mrmonday> eck, how do I get to it?
[10:29] <variant> Phylo: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[10:29] <variant> Phylo: see if it changed
[10:29] <Phylo> sniffle
[10:29] <Phylo> it reset
[10:29] <eck> mrmonday: it is a terminal application
[10:29] <variant> Phylo: what is in resolv.conf?
[10:29] <Phylo> (I just checked the network settings)
[10:29] <airtonix> foug: all good sofar?
[10:30] <Phylo> what is "/etc"?
[10:30] <foug> airtonix: what? no, nothing works
[10:30] <variant> Phylo: a directory
[10:30] <Cosmo_> after running for about 12+ hours my USB ports stop working (including my mouse)(I am running 7.04 on a desktop) how do I fix this?
[10:30] <airtonix> foug: i sen you private messages
[10:30] <foug> airtonix: k
[10:30] <variant> Phylo: commonly used to store config files for the system
[10:30] <Phylo> variant:  does it stand for anything in particular?
[10:30] <Phylo> or just "etcetera"?
[10:30] <variant> Phylo: probably..
[10:30] <foug> Phylo: what do you think man? lol
[10:30] <Phylo> variant:  well it definitely reset
[10:30] <Phylo> variant:  same as what it was before
[10:30] <mrmonday> eck, how does it work?
[10:31] <variant> Phylo: ok, lets edit the config file then :)
[10:31] <Phylo> the search domain invalid thing and <IP_ADDRESS> twice
[10:31] <variant> Phylo: not hard
[10:31] <Phylo> ok
[10:31] <protocol1> I accidentally deleted the intd folder in the .theme folder is there any way to recover that?
[10:31] <ziroday> protocol1: in trash?
[10:31] <Phylo> what's the manual edit for resolv.conf again?
[10:31] <variant> Phylo: i just have to find the specific file.. not done it for a year or so
[10:31] <ssam> Bradford, did you find the powerpc info you were looking for?
[10:31] <variant> Phylo: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[10:31] <marc__> Hi! I've got a question: I'd like to download more than one file with BitTorrent, but when i start a second one i get the message Couldn't listen (98, 'address already in use') how can i change that?
[10:32] <protocol1> ziroday, nope
[10:32] <eck> mrmonday: e.g. 'split -db 100000 foo.txt bar' this will create files bar00, bar01, bar02 and so forth from foo.txt that are each 100000 bytes
[10:32] <variant> marc__: the default client is intensly annoying in that it only supports one download at a time... absurd as that seems
[10:32] <ziroday> protocol1: youre stuffed i could give you mine?
[10:32] <marc__> okay, thanks
[10:32] <eck> mrmonday: you glue them back together with cat
[10:32] <mrmonday> how?
[10:32] <marc__> but ktorrent can download more than one file -.-
[10:32] <mrmonday> eck, can I specify 2 pieces?
[10:33] <Loco> hello how can i install or setup the skydome feature in beryl?
[10:33] <protocol1> ziroday, thx
[10:33] <variant> Phylo: will be back in 2 mins. gotta get a coffee
[10:33] <Phylo> variant:  ok, I set the resolv.conf file back to the right settings
[10:33] <protocol1> that would help
[10:33] <Phylo> ok :-(
[10:33] <ziroday> protocol1: where do you want it?
[10:33] <moDumass> ziroday, in  /home/<username>/.beryl there are 2 files "libberylsettings.ini" and "settings" but no prefs folder
[10:33] <marc__> okay, thx for help
[10:33] <marc__> bye
[10:33] <moDumass> any ideas?
[10:33] <protocol1> email right
[10:33] <moDumass> or jsut one of those two
[10:33] <airtonix> marc__: use rtorrent isntead
[10:33] <ziroday> moDumass: delete .beryl
[10:33] <marc__> rtorrent?
[10:33] <moDumass> cool, thanks
[10:33] <ziroday> protocol1: np what email
[10:33] <eck> mrmonday: no, you specify the size you want
[10:33] <marc__> can i find that in the ubuntu pakages?
[10:34] <Phylo> what exactly does "sudo" mean and how does it differ from "gksudo"
[10:34] <Phylo> ?
[10:34] <ziroday> moDumass: np
[10:34] <marc__> *look for it*
[10:34] <moDumass> ziroday, restart x
[10:34] <airtonix> marc__: it use ncurse as it interface display....runs in the terminal and is low on memory
[10:34] <eck> mrmonday: you can use the suffix m for megabytes
[10:34] <variant> marc__: see azureus.. rtorrent sucks
[10:34] <ziroday> moDumass: yeah
[10:34] <protocol1><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:34] <eck> rtorrent is the best :-)
[10:34] <ziroday> marc__: deluge is the best of the lot
[10:34] <variant> marc__: actually rtorrent is excellent, but you will say it sucks.
[10:34] <variant> marc__: :)
[10:34] <Pieter_> hey guys, any ideas on where to get a codec to play .rmvb files?
[10:34] <ziroday> protocol1: what file again?
[10:34] <variant> eck: i agree actualy :P
[10:34] <airtonix> Phylo: gksudo loads up gtk interfaces in the root profile where sudo loadds it up in the useers profile....i think
[10:34] <airtonix> Phylo: you rad that wiki lik i gave yo>
[10:34] <h4wk0_> Morning, Following this at the min
[10:34] <robert98374> Freeloader works fairly well and its not a major memory hog
[10:34] <h4wk0_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135036
[10:35] <marc__> why do you think so?
[10:35] <marc__> because it runs on the terminal?
[10:35] <airtonix> variant: i disagree most heartly
[10:35] <Phylo> airtonix:  I'm not actually sure what you just said.
[10:35] <h4wk0_> Howeber i cant seem to find the XDMCP option
[10:35] <eck> marc__: rtorrent isn't really worth the trouble unless you're a screen junkie
[10:35] <variant> airtonix: correct about gksudo
[10:35] <variant> Phylo: it's not important to our current discussion
[10:35] <ziroday> marc__: get deluge its the best
[10:35] <marc__> hmm
[10:35] <marc__> okay
[10:35] <Phylo> no the "Phylo: you rad that wiki lik i gave yo>"
[10:36] <marc__> ill try
[10:36] <Phylo> is that a question?
[10:36] <airtonix> marc__: no cause it does everything i can choose to load a speciifc file or a protion of it i can limit spees everything...and it dont slow my system down with heaps of torrents
[10:36] <airtonix> deluge still needs to iron out some issues but es it is quite good, when it switchs from meory hungry python to c++
[10:37] <variant> Phylo: ok, back to what we were doing
[10:37] <marc__> okay, i will try it, but now i have to go
[10:37] <marc__> thx for the help =)
[10:37] <marc__> bye
[10:37] <h4wk0_> In a tutorial i am follwing, one of the steps is System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup Security Tab -> Enable XDMCP XDMCP Tab -> Disable "Honor Indirect Requests"
[10:37] <Phylo> variant:  right now we are trying to figure out how to make the manual dns settings stick right?
[10:37] <variant> Phylo: gksudo gedit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[10:37] <airtonix> rtorrent is good in a fault tolerant way cause you can keep it running ina virutal terminal and log x out
[10:37] <h4wk0_> I cant see it, im on feisty
[10:37] <variant> airtonix: type /lastlog variant and youw ill see that i agree that it's excelelnt
[10:37] <ziroday> protocol1: what fie?
[10:38] <eck> airtonix: you can run it in screen over ssh, which is even better
[10:38] <Phylo> variant:  opened
[10:38] <Bradford> samm, nope
[10:38] <sarasini> hi all
[10:38] <ziroday> protocol1: what file again ??
[10:38] <variant> Phylo: you see where it says "request subnet-mask, bre.. etc etc
[10:38] <Bradford> ssam*
[10:38] <nixbox> hi all
[10:38] <nixbox> is there a way to SSH into the live CD, i have a machine without the monitor, i have booted it using the live CD, how do i connect to it?
[10:38] <h4wk0_> In a tutorial i am follwing, one of the steps is System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup Security Tab -> Enable XDMCP XDMCP Tab -> Disable "Honor Indirect Requests" -- However i cant see this on my fiesty :(:)
[10:38] <airtonix> lol
[10:38] <variant> nixbox: start sshd and set a user password
[10:38] <airtonix> woops
[10:38] <ssam> Bradford, what do yo need to know
[10:38] <Phylo> yes
[10:38] <Phylo> variant:  yes
[10:39] <variant> Phylo: ok, see where it says in the request section "name-servers" ?
[10:39] <nixbox> variant, how do i do that without the monitor? :P
[10:39] <variant> Phylo: remove "name-servers"
[10:39] <UberPsyX> hi, im running ubuntu on a fairly oldish pc, im also trying to run a game called dofus but it runs really slowly, i have a family pc running windows and it works fine on there. any suggestions on how i could speed it up?
[10:39] <Phylo> "domain-name-servers"
[10:39] <Flannel> nixbox: Only way to do it would be to install openssh-server, so... ctrl-alt-f1, then "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[10:39] <Phylo> yes
[10:39] <airtonix> Phylo: goto wiki.ubuntu.com   then serach for sudo
[10:39] <variant> nixbox: if your l337 you can do it blind :) otherwise you need the monitor
[10:39] <Flannel> nixbox: then... hmm.  You might need a "y"
[10:39] <nixbox> variant, i have a laptop, can i somehow shift the display for the PC onto the laptop's LCD display?
[10:39] <Bradford> ssam, if osx will allow a second partition
[10:39] <protocol1> ziroday, the folder in .themes  called initd
[10:39] <variant> Phylo: yes
[10:40] <Flannel> nixbox: hmm.  I don't believe you need to login, but you might.  So, type "ubuntu" and then hit enter twice, after the ctrl-alt-f1
[10:40] <protocol1> ziroday, everything that was in it basically
[10:40] <ssam> Bradford, yes osx is fine with lots of partitions
[10:40] <Phylo> removed, saved
[10:40] <variant> Phylo: under that
[10:40] <nixbox> Flannel, i knew that one :P, lets try hehe
[10:40] <ziroday> protocol1: i dont have that folder is that a theme name?
[10:40] <variant> Phylo: not finnsihed yet
[10:40] <ssam> Bradford, my powerbook is setup as a dual boot
[10:40] <variant> Phylo: in the same file
[10:40] <Phylo> #require?
[10:40] <Flannel> nixbox: Oh.  Also do a "sudo apt-get update" first.  Since, it'll need to know about the online stuffs
[10:40] <variant> Phylo: just under than line is "require subnet-mask, domain-name-servers;"
[10:41] <variant> Phylo: remove domain-name-servers but leave in subnet-mask
[10:41] <Phylo> I want "#require subnet-mask;" right?
[10:41] <kortnor> irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu-fr
[10:41] <protocol1> ziroday, so its not default then right?
[10:41] <Phylo> removed, saved
[10:41] <variant> Phylo: no, did you add the comment to require?
[10:41] <Phylo> no
[10:41] <Bradford> ssam, did you Install OS X at the same time or after Ubuntu?
[10:41] <variant> Phylo: ah!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:41] <ziroday> protocol1: nope just change your theme and you shuld be fine
[10:41] <Phylo> lol
[10:41] <variant> Phylo: we just discovered why it wasn't working in the first place
[10:41] <variant> Phylo: lol
[10:41] <Phylo> 90% of the file has "#" before the line
[10:41] <protocol1> ok
[10:41] <variant> Phylo: yeah thast ok,
[10:42] <ssam> Bradford, the best method is to reinstall mac os x, and use the mac os x disktool to do the partitoning
[10:42] <Phylo> soooo, all I had to do was change uncomment that line?
[10:42] <variant> Phylo: however when the pc asks for the dhcp lease from the router it wasn't rquireing that it provide name servers
[10:42] <variant> Phylo: not nessasarily
[10:42] <ssam> Bradford, if you leave some of the disk as unallocated, then the ubuntu installer can pick that bit up
[10:42] <Phylo> ok well anyways, do I do anything else now?
[10:42] <Bradford> ssam, well that's my problem... my life is on this Hdd... I don't want to loose ANYTHING
[10:43] <Cosmo_> after running for about 12+ hours my USB ports stop working (including my mouse)(I am running 7.04 on a desktop) how do I fix this?
[10:43] <variant> Phylo: don't uncomment it. you should just have removed domain-name-servers from request and (optionally) require
[10:43] <ssam> Bradford, the other option is to resize the existing mac os x partiton
[10:43] <Phylo> removed, saved
[10:43] <variant> Phylo: now try /etc/init.d/networking restart again
[10:43] <ssam> Bradford, but there is a risk of that going wrong
[10:43] <variant> Phylo: with sudo
[10:43] <Phylo> try that restart thing?
[10:43] <Ix0s> Bradford, Morning :)
[10:43] <variant> Phylo: yep
[10:43] <Phylo> working:
[10:43] <ssam> Bradford, if you don't have a back up then please dont try to install ubuntu :-)
[10:43] <variant> Phylo: did you add your name servers back into the gui?
[10:43] <Phylo> yeah
[10:43] <Bradford> ssam, well, what all could go wrong???
[10:44] <variant> cool cool
[10:44] <Phylo> oh
[10:44] <Phylo> no
[10:44] <Phylo> not the gui
[10:44] <variant> don't worry
[10:44] <Phylo> I edited the file directly
[10:44] <variant> shouldn't matter
[10:44] <Bradford> Ix0s, How are you? Where do you live?
[10:44] <steve_h> bonjour, les enfants
[10:44] <variant> ok, lets see if it works still then. the edit we did to the config should stop it changing Resolv.conf
[10:44] <Phylo> wow, this has taken like 3 hours to wirelessly connect...
[10:44] <Phylo> (not that it isn't worth it)
[10:44] <ssam> Bradford, resizing partitions is a new thing. it doe not always work
[10:45] <Ix0s> Bradford, Am great, better after some sleep, Ohh Manchester UK
[10:45] <Phylo> done restarting
[10:45] <Phylo> *cries*
[10:45] <steve_h> ah, i see, wireless approaches to ubuntu are being discussed here (c:
[10:45] <variant> Phylo: wireless is still immature on free software sadly, some realy nice progress being made recently. I would say that within a year it will be far simpler to connect with free software over wireless (for supported cards) than any toher os
[10:45] <ssam> Ix0s, i am in manchester too :-)
[10:45] <Ix0s> ssam, Kool :)
[10:45] <variant> Phylo: not worky?
[10:45] <Bradford> Ix0s, oic. I'm in California... figuring linux out @ a party... I'm a little tipsy ;)
[10:45] <Phylo> it reset them
[10:46] <variant> asdfasfd
[10:46] <ssam> Ix0s, victoria park, near the university
[10:46] <variant> Phylo: please pastebin that config file
[10:46] <Ix0s> ssam, Umm miles away from me :P Oldham here XD
[10:46] <Phylo> which one
[10:46] <eck> variant: with the "for supported cards" of course being the big caveat ;-)
[10:46] <variant> eck: ehehe, indeed
[10:46] <Bradford> ssam, So no matter what I really REALLY need to back everything up... meaning i need another external 60gb..... christ
[10:46] <variant> Phylo: dhcp conf file we editet
[10:46] <Ix0s> Bradford, Hehe, and now you want to go back to mac os x?
[10:46] <ssam> Bradford, get yourself an external hard disk and back up your life
[10:46] <Phylo> k one minute
[10:46] <h4wk0> Ive just installed VNC - However i get a black and white squared screen when i login - Any reason?
[10:47] <Angel-SL> Hello. Okay, so I have the kubuntu-desktop package installed on Ubuntu. How do I change the splash image from Kubuntu's to Ubuntu's?
[10:47] <variant> h4wk0: you vnc'ing to a box with beryl or something?
[10:47] <Bradford> Ix0s, no not so much... looking to keep ubuntu on my Mac :)
[10:47] <phy2> Bradford gives us new meaning for Don't Drink and Drive
[10:47] <ssam> Bradford, you are living dangerously day to day if you dont have a backup
[10:47] <Bradford> ssam, That's $$$ and time, >:o!
[10:47] <h4wk0> variant; Yes i am on my laptop vnc'ing through himachi - to my desktop
[10:47] <Phylo> I can't paste
[10:47] <Angel-SL> Anyone?
[10:47] <ssam> Bradford, how much is your data worth?
[10:47] <load> can someone tell me how to install kde?
[10:48] <Ix0s> Bradford, Why not use a couple of DVDs?
[10:48] <h4wk0> It connects alright (i think) variant - And yes i have beryl installed
[10:48] <Phylo> when I click send to pastebin it pops up a bunch of text (nothing else)
[10:48] <ziroday> load: audo apt-get install kubuntu
[10:48] <Ix0s> load, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:48] <Angel-SL> load: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:48] <variant> h4wk0: afaik, you might need to disable beryl for use over vnc. not 100% ont hat though
[10:48] <Loco> hello how can i install or setup the skydome feature in beryl?
[10:48] <variant> Phylo: annoying
[10:48] <Phylo> Query failure: Can't open file: 'pastebin.MYI'. (errno: 145)
[10:48] <variant> Phylo: this is becomming a pita indded
[10:48] <Ix0s> Loco, Look under the desktop cube setting
[10:48] <Bradford> ssam, over a million, and I think OS X can handle itself. I have everything that I absolutely need to live on a 160gb external, but... it's about full.
[10:48] <reddevs> hey guys, is there anyone here who could give me some pointers regarding stereo sound on ubuntu?
[10:49] <load> thanks all :)
[10:49] <ssam> Bradford, so you have a lot of data
[10:49] <ziroday> load: sorry run Ix0s command
[10:49] <Ix0s> Loco, Desktop-->Desktop Cube-->Skydome
[10:49] <variant> Phylo: ok, try putting your dns settings into the gui again
[10:49] <Phylo> variant:  we have made lots of progress though
[10:49] <Bradford> Ix0s, iBook G4, combo drive
[10:49] <variant> Phylo: indeed
[10:49] <Phylo> I could technically reset them each time I use my computer
[10:49] <Loco> Ix0s, yeah i see it thanx very much
[10:49] <Ix0s> Loco, :)
[10:49] <variant> Phylo: not idea, or nessasary
[10:50] <Phylo> (I already have them memorized)
[10:50] <variant> Phylo: ideal*
[10:50] <variant> Phylo: lol
[10:50] <Phylo> I know
[10:50] <Bradford> ssam, Yeah...  Well, I have some 80gigs of music... (GOOD MUSIC)
[10:51] <h4wk0> variant; Unstill all of berly
[10:51] <variant> Phylo: as a tempory fix just while we fix the issue you can "save location" in the network-settins gui, after you put in all the right info click on the icon that looks like a floppy disk at the top
[10:51] <h4wk0> Lets see what happens now - restart..
[10:51] <variant> h4wk0: no, just turn it off
[10:51] <Ix0s> Bradford, Jebus! I have like an ipod full and thats it!
[10:52] <Bradford> Ix0s, weapons
[10:52] <Phylo> variant:  it says in the file "this is a sample configuration file for dhclient"
[10:52] <Phylo> (in a comment)
[10:52] <Bradford> Ix0s, what else?
[10:52] <variant> Phylo: hmm
[10:52] <ssam> Bradford, you can get 300GB firewire disks in the UK for about 100, and everything is meant to be cheaper in the states
[10:52] <Ix0s> Bradford, cache of  weapons :P
[10:52] <variant> Phylo: yes thats ok, it is the correct file
[10:52] <h4wk0> variant; I wanted to see if it worked with it fully uninstalled, then  go to intsall but disabled
[10:52] <Phylo> ok
[10:52] <variant> Phylo: openthat file again actually
[10:52] <variant> Phylo: i just spotted something usefull
[10:53] <Phylo> should I save to a new location?
[10:53] <Phylo> if so, to what
[10:53] <variant> Phylo: name it whatever.. home or something
[10:53] <Bradford> Ix0s, yeah... no other way to go... Mac's aren't ALWAYS peaceful
[10:53] <variant> Phylo: NO
[10:53] <variant> Phylo: wait, are you editing the dhcp config file again?
[10:53] <Phylo> doh.. I saved to seomthing
[10:53] <variant> Phylo: or in the network manger gui
[10:53] <Phylo> k
[10:53] <Phylo> I used the manager gui
[10:53] <Bradford> ssam, Well I haven't looked too much into it... If I had $100 I'd save it for a Mac Pro
[10:54] <Phylo> set the right dns ips
[10:54] <reddevs> does anyone know how i can make my onboard sound produce stereo instead of mono?
[10:54] <variant> Phylo: ahh, please stop and tell me the current state of play
[10:54] <Phylo> clicked the floppy
[10:54] <variant> Phylo: perfect
[10:54] <Phylo> saved as netsettings
[10:54] <variant> Phylo: ideal
[10:54] <Ix0s> Bradford, Hehe!
[10:54] <phy2> Bradford, sell part of your million dollars worth of data and move on
[10:54] <variant> Phylo: gksudo gedit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf again
[10:54] <Phylo> now you want me to edit that ... ok
[10:55] <Ix0s> Bradford, Theres gotta be some stuff you can get rid off off that ext hd?
[10:55] <phab> is there a guide to rebuilding font-config with the propriatry TrueType hinting support? I hope i'm asking the question correctly
[10:55] <variant> Phylo: and you see just above where "request" is, the next line up is a commented line called "prepend"
[10:55] <Phylo> indeed
[10:55] <Phylo> (interestingly, nowhere in the file is the text "<IP_ADDRESS>" which is what it resets the dns's too)
[10:56] <variant> Phylo: ok, the ip address thats there <IP_ADDRESS> you can remove and replace with your dns servers like this:
[10:56] <variant> Phylo: thats because thats the ip address that your router has, dhcp sets it based on what the router tells it
[10:56] <variant> Phylo: replace with this line:
[10:56] <h4wk0> Humm variant I can even login now :s
[10:56] <h4wk0> Connection refused
[10:56] <Phylo> I have DHCP turned on, is that bad?
[10:57] <Phylo> (waiting for exact syntax)
[10:57] <variant> Phylo: "prepend domain-name-servers FIRSTIP, SECONDIP;"
[10:57] <variant> Phylo: no, thats good. please don't get ahead of your self again just stick wtih what we are doing
[10:57] <eck> phab: you might be interested in david turner's freetype patches, they don't enable the proprietary hinting (afaik), but they make the fonts look a lot like they would with it on
[10:57] <Phylo> gotcha
[10:57] <Phylo> variant:  just asking :-)
[10:57] <variant> Phylo: np :)
[10:57] <phab> eck, ooooooh... :) got a link?
[10:57] <Phylo> variant:  I promise I won't change anything without telling you (or you just told me)
[10:57] <variant> Phylo: also remove the # at the start of taht line
[10:58] <Phylo> ok, I added them, and ok yeah, so I will remove that comment
[10:58] <Phylo> symbol
[10:58] <phab> eck, they hurt my eyes the way they are right now at 1680x1050 and lowering my resolution on an lcd makes them really blurry
[10:58] <variant> Phylo: save/exit/restart network
[10:58] <h4wk0_> variant:  I am getting the error - ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::EndOfStream
[10:58] <Phylo> working
[10:58] <eck> phab: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343670
[10:58] <Phylo> just curious:  what does your "request" line say?
[10:58] <variant> h4wk0_: did you disable beryl? (not uninstall)