[02:58] <Sarvatt> jcristau: thanks a ton for taking all those videos, much appreciated
[12:31] <MpEbUtCh3r> lo all, I have a question about using both cuda and opengl>2 on ubuntu?..I haven't manage to use both at the same time when i install nvidia-331-updates the GL work well but not cuda and when I install a nvidia-xx-uvm cuda works but not the GL
[12:31] <MpEbUtCh3r> Have any clues..?
[12:32] <jcristau> Sarvatt: glad if it's useful
[12:48] <tseliot> MpEbUtCh3r: you need both packages
[12:57] <MpEbUtCh3r> tseliot: thanks..in fact it fails only the first launch after driver change...perhaps something in my code..
[13:00] <tseliot> MpEbUtCh3r: if you install nvidia-331-updates you should also install nvidia-331-updates-uvm (or nvidia-331 and nvidia-331-uvm)
[13:01] <tseliot> it has to be the same flavour
[13:01] <MpEbUtCh3r> yes i know thx
[13:05] <MpEbUtCh3r> in my case it can also be a driver issue.. I have a lot of driver crash under win32...so a lot of freeze under linux
[18:23] <sarnex> hi, i want to use the canonical x staging PPA to install xserver 1.16 on ubuntu 14.04, how can i do this without it breaking aton of packages and uninstalling many core compenents?


[06:09] <Kilos> o/
[07:30] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:38] <Kilos-> morning inetpro
[07:39] <Kilos-> #ubuntu-africa is crying
[07:39] <Kilos-> no channel on libera yet
[07:45] <Kilos-> and i am too dom
[07:55] <inetpro> who's crying Kilos- ?
[07:56] <Kilos-> the tunisia guys and senegl so far
[07:56] <Kilos-> i could forward you their mails but you dont read mails lol
[07:57] <inetpro> send them to https://libera.chat/
[07:59] <inetpro> just ask them to follow the guides, it's not that difficult
[08:00] <Kilos> um
[08:00] <Kilos> pavlushka did lots of stuff but unit193 said thats over kill
[08:01] <Kilos> something about changing old documents
[08:01] <Kilos> WrathOfAchilles  are you watching here?
[08:03] <Kilos> i will go try. remember we are admins there
[08:09] <inetpro> Kilos: we were admins on freenode, that's a different story, freenode is dead now
[08:09] <Kilos> registeroh not of that channel
[08:09] <Kilos> grrr
[08:09] <Kilos> oh not on that channel
[08:11] <Kilos> grrrr REGISTER unknown command
[08:12] <Kilos> So if e.g. the project “MyFossCalendar” wants to add #myfosscalendar-social to the existing channels, they can just grab
[08:12] <Kilos> grab it how??
[08:14] <inetpro> someone already registered #ubuntu-africa:libera.chat
[08:16] <inetpro> * registered #ubuntu-africa:libera.chat or simply #ubuntu-africa, you can just join it
[08:17] <Kilos> oh is it fixed now
[08:17] <Kilos> ai
[08:18] <Kilos> that was pavlushka
[08:19] <Kilos> you /j #ubuntu-africa and go to #Ubuntu-Africa
[08:20] <Kilos> it did that before pavel worked on it
[08:22] <Kilos> if they all still have the freenode connection how do they login to africa
[08:25] <inetpro> if they are still on Freenode they can't be serious about using IRC. Freenode is dead. See: https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php
[08:25] <Kilos> ok so if they have a client that doesnt show the channel now what do they do
[08:26] <Kilos> many of them dont speak good english as well
[08:26] <Kilos> some are arabs and others are other kinda peeps lol
[08:26] <inetpro> https://libera.chat/guides/
[08:32] <Kilos> I mailed them to try that. Will see if they succeed
[08:34] <Kilos> too much to read, head exploding
[08:34] <Kilos> ty for your help
[09:24] <inetpro> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenode#Ownership_change_and_conflict
[09:24] <inetpro> Kilos: more info ^^
[09:24] <Kilos> ty
[10:34] <WrathOfAchilles> Kilos: I can read the channel, I'm not generally following it as a rule though.
[10:35] <WrathOfAchilles> inetpro: It seems he just wants help registering the channel, right?  If so, I can help you guys out, just would need to know who technically runs it so I can hand it off...
[10:37] <WrathOfAchilles> (Unit193, part of the Ubuntu IRC team here at your service.)
[10:48] <Kilos> WrathOfAchilles  i bult and ran it
[10:48] <Kilos> pro was admin for when i was sick
[10:50] <inetpro> Kilos: we need a champion to run with it, I really don't have the time for it
[10:52] <Kilos> inetpro  i will get one of te tunisians to be admin
[10:52] <inetpro> WrathOfAchilles: yep, without one or more technical dudes the channel won't succeed
[10:53] <Kilos> i have had 5 heart attacks since building that
[10:54] <WrathOfAchilles> I could forward it selwhere if that'd help, too...I'm willing to help get the channel set up as you need, but I'd just need to know the plan.
[10:56] <Kilos> the plan was to get all ubuntu users in africa one channel where they can all meet and help each other
[10:57] <Kilos> africa is a big continent with many countries speaking different languages, ubuntu was the common denominator
[10:58] <Kilos> while some of those countries were at war with each other the linux guys still worked together growing ubuntu
[10:59] <WrathOfAchilles> I mean yes that sounds like a great idea, but on a technical level that..doesn't really tell me what's needed, soo...
[11:00] <Kilos> inetpro  help
[11:00] <Kilos> we need a channel same as #ubuntu-za
[11:01] <Kilos> and a christmas tree in december
[11:01] <Kilos> hehe
[11:02] <Kilos> i dont know how to explain the technical needs
[11:03] <Kilos> i am sure pavlushka will join too
[18:08] <hibana> good evening
[18:09] <hibana> WrathOfAchilles: is it possible to rename a channel on liberachat?
[18:10] <hibana> #Ubuntu-Africa should be small case #ubuntu-africa
[23:53] <WrathOfAchilles> hibana: So that's a bit more complicated, the casing gets saved in memory however the first user joined it, most of the time you won't see this but it does sometimes.  So in order to fix you'd have to get everyone to leave, then have the first person join with the proper casing.  On IRC casing isn't so much a thing, you can't have one person be hibana while another is Hibana, but of course you
[23:53] <WrathOfAchilles> can change the casing with /nick.


[13:26] <gurki> hello
[13:26] <gurki> is there a way to have maas running on a centos?
[13:27] <gurki> i kind of have to have centos on the management node and i dont want to deploy a second one ...
[14:11] <kiko> gurki, deploy an ubuntu container and run MAAS inside that
[14:32] <NetNet> Any idea what the default login details are for a deployed node???
[14:33] <brendand> ubuntu/ubuntu
[14:34] <brendand> actually, there shouldn't be a login as it should use public key authentication
[14:35] <NetNet> Tried that and it only returns login incorrect...I'm pulling my hair out with this! haha I have tried lots of combinations and nothing has worked - no matter what OS I install on the node, it comes up with the login prompt and I can get no further! :(
[14:36] <NetNet> hmm...I have an SSH key setup on the web ui - I take it this would need adding to the actual MAAS appliance first though?
[14:37] <brendand> NetNet, that key needs to be wherever you want to ssh from
[14:42] <NetNet> do you have to use the SSH key to login to the node locally (as in through direct KVM access to the node..)
[14:51] <brendand> NetNet, when you added the ssh key, where did you get it from?
[15:17] <gurki> kiko: thats kind of hard as maas is gonna try to create its own vms when running image builder
[15:17] <gurki> ... breaking when run inside a vm.
[15:18] <roaksoax> gurki: maas-image-builder has really nothing to do with MAAS. maas-image-builder simply creates a VM to be able to create a image with what's required for MAAS
[15:19] <roaksoax> gurki: so yes, you'd need an ubuntu machine to run it, and then you can iport that image into MAAS
[15:19] <roaksoax> NetNet: a deployed node will have the SSH key of the user in MAAS
[15:19] <gurki> im aware of that. but not being able to create the images on the very node i intend to deploy them is kind of ... strange
[15:20] <gurki> i basically not only need a ubuntu vm but an ubuntu on a physical machine
[15:20] <gurki> which is a problem
[15:20] <gurki> id basically need a physical machine just for that as we just use centos atm
[15:21] <gurki> you might ask 'why use maas then' - been going for maas as it provides moonshot support
[15:22] <gurki> is there actually some technical reason why it cannot run on $distribution?
[15:29] <roaksoax> gurki: does the centos images provided by MAAS not working for your hardware?
[15:41] <gurki> roaksoax: itll throw 'no such file or directory' at me when i try to do as said on https://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/os-support.html
[15:43] <gurki> am i expected to put $thing taken from the centos iso to wherever?
[15:45] <gurki> i could create a tgz if i had some physical ubuntu which i dont have
[15:59] <kiko> gurki, actually, we provide the centos images in a stream
[15:59] <kiko> gurki, so you just need to tick the box for them
[15:59] <kiko> gurki, running MAAS bare-metal on CentOS is not a trivial project unfortuantely
[15:59] <kiko> I'm sure it could be done, but we are flat out as it is and can't really blink
[16:00] <kiko> gurki, can't you just request an Ubuntu box? if necessary you can just deploy CentOS onto a container or VM on the same box
[16:03] <gurki> kiko: how can i grab said image?
[16:03] <kiko> gurki, just tick the box on the images page
[16:04] <gurki> i can just tick ubuntu stuff there ... or did i miss sth?
[16:04] <gurki> *rechecking*
[16:04] <kiko> gurki, what version of MAAS are you running?
[16:04] <kiko> gurki, on 2.0 it's enabled out of the box
[16:05] <gurki> hum
[16:06] <gurki> i have 1.9.4 installing them from the ubuntu 14.04 repo.
[16:06] <gurki> i guess thats too old a version then.
[16:07] <gurki> *throwing a recent version on some vm*
[16:08] <gurki> kiko: were inside some moonshot stuff ... each node is kind of costly :s
[16:08] <gurki> it is supposed to be manageable as-is, with no additional pcs/whatever required
[16:09] <gurki> a ubuntu vm added to the headnode is fine, the other way around is kind of tricky as we have other management stuff that needs to run there
[16:09] <kiko> gurki, I see what your challenge is now
[16:34] <roaksoax> /w/win 4
[17:27] <PCdude> http://askubuntu.com/questions/820925/how-do-i-set-a-dns-server-in-maas-that-will-be-passed-on-to-the-nodes
[17:27] <PCdude> I hope that makes the question clear, anybody an idea?
[17:52] <kiko> gurki, is there a strong rationale for putting the MAAS region controller on the chassis itself?
[17:52] <kiko> gurki, is the chassis all you have?
[17:53] <kiko> PCdude, the nodes typically are set to use MAAS as their DNS server
[17:53] <kiko> PCdude, but you can configure forwarders, and that normally works fine
[17:53] <kiko> PCdude, does that not work in your case?
[17:54] <PCdude> yes it indeed has the ip address of the MAAS controller and I indeed has set the value of the DNS forwarders, but nothing is resolved as far as DNS is concerned
[17:54] <PCdude> kiko: maybe there is a file I can change ?
[17:56] <kiko> PCdude, something is wrong. can you clarify to me something:
[17:57] <kiko> PCdude, you've deployed a node, you ssh into it, and "host google.com" fails?
[17:59] <PCdude> kiko: this is what I have done now, I have changed the interface of the maas controller facing the nodes to DHCP managed only (so no DNS) and that seems to work)
[17:59] <PCdude> kiko: it still has the IP of the maas controller, but I think he immidiatly sends it to the forwarder
[17:59] <kiko> PCdude, that doesn't make sense though
[18:00] <PCdude> kiko: and indeed in the "DHCP and DNS managed" situation the "host google.com" would not succeed
[18:00] <PCdude> kiko: exactly my thought :)
[18:00] <kiko> PCdude, something else is wrong
[18:00] <PCdude> kiko: like what?
[18:00] <kiko> PCdude, what version of MAAS?
[18:00] <kiko> sounds like 1.9
[18:01] <PCdude> kiko: 1.9.4
[18:01] <PCdude> I cant use 2.0
[18:01] <kiko> PCdude, because of Juju?
[18:01] <PCdude> coz of JUJU which I also need and is still in beta
[18:01] <PCdude> kiko yes JUJU
[18:01] <PCdude> kiko: is this a know issue of MAAS 1.9?
[18:02] <kiko> PCdude, no, it's not.
[18:02] <kiko> PCdude, it suggests something is wrong with your setup
[18:02] <PCdude> kiko: well I dont know what could be wrong haha, how can I check?
[18:02] <kiko> PCdude, can you revert back to manage dhcp+dns, and ensure the forwarders are correct, and redeploy a node?
[18:02] <PCdude> kiko: gonna do that right now
[18:03] <PCdude> kiko: deploying rn, it will take a minute or two
[18:03] <kiko> thanks
[18:07] <PCdude> kiko: packages succeed.... I am really confused I did this before and suddenly it works now
[18:07] <PCdude> kiko: maybe the MAAS server got an update by changing the DNS and DHCP managing on the interface
[18:07] <PCdude> ?
[18:07] <kiko> PCdude, yes, there could be a hidden bug somewhere
[18:07] <kiko> PCdude, but I'm happy you have a working setup now
[18:07] <kiko> do you want to try and reproduce, or move on? :)
[18:08] <PCdude> kiko: well lets try to reproduce, its easy I have snapshots :)
[18:08] <kiko> PCdude, cool. let's go back to the broken setup then.
[18:09] <kiko> PCdude, the first thing is to double-check the forwarders in the MAAS settings page, and get to a failing "host google.com" on the host
[18:10] <PCdude> kiko: nodes and controller are set back, I am starting the controller rn
[18:10] <kiko> cool
[18:11] <PCdude> kiko: the setting page indeed has the right DNS follower, I am gonna deploy a node rn
[18:11] <PCdude> kiko: lets see what happens :)
[18:11] <kiko> PCdude, cool
[18:12] <kiko> PCdude, also, check out the BIND configuration we generate, which should be in /etc/maas/bind/
[18:12] <kiko> PCdude, see if the forwarder is correctly set there
[18:12] <PCdude> kiko: I indeed checked those before and they contain the right values but the nodes do not in the end, but let me check again
[18:13] <PCdude> kiko: I think its /etc/bind/maas btw , but np I am checking rn
[18:14] <PCdude> the named.conf.options.inside.maas does indeed have the right value of the forwarder
[18:15] <PCdude> kiko: node is almost done with deploying
[18:19] <PCdude> ping: unknown host google.com
[18:19] <PCdude> ""ping google.com" gives "ping : unknown host google.com"
[18:19] <PCdude> "host google.com" gives "connection timed out; no servers could be reached"
[18:19] <kiko> PCdude, excellent.
[18:20] <kiko> PCdude, what does resolv.conf say?
[18:20] <PCdude> kiko: "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" does succeed so there is internet for sure
[18:20] <kiko> PCdude, cool
[18:20] <kiko> PCdude, I am thinking the DNS server on the MAAS side is either broken or not running
[18:20] <kiko> but first, resolv.conf
[18:21] <PCdude> that file contains the wrong nameserver value and the right DNS name
[18:21] <kiko> PCdude, what do you mean?
[18:21] <PCdude> kiko:  let met put it on pastebin one second
[18:22] <PCdude> http://pastebin.com/raw/HFD8mabz
[18:22] <PCdude> the IP address is the IP address of the MAAS controller itself
[18:23] <kiko> PCdude, but that's correct. the MAAS controller is the DNS server, right?
[18:23] <kiko> PCdude, next, "nslookup [IP-address]"
[18:23] <kiko> err
[18:23] <kiko> PCdude, next, "nslookup google.com [IP-address]"
[18:23] <PCdude> kiko: yes that is right, indeed sorry I was mixing two situations
[18:24] <kiko> ok
[18:24] <kiko> PCdude, what's the name of the node that was deployed?
[18:25] <PCdude> "nslookup google.com [IP-address]" gives "server can't find google.com: SERVFAIL"
[18:25] <PCdude> the name is very simple haha "node1"
[18:25] <kiko> PCdude, okay, and "nslookup node1.maas [IP-address]"?
[18:25] <kiko> PCdude, and finally, "nslookup google.com <IP_ADDRESS>"
[18:26] <PCdude> both of those succeed
[18:26] <kiko> okay
[18:26] <kiko> let's go to the MAAS server now
[18:27] <PCdude> terminal window or web GUI of MAAS?
[18:27] <kiko> terminal window
[18:27] <kiko> and look at the syslog to see what BIND is complaining about
[18:27] <kiko> PCdude, grep " named" /var/log/syslog | tail
[18:28] <kiko> (I think bind logs to syslog)
[18:30] <PCdude> http://pastebin.com/raw/6ZPsEuGa
[18:30] <PCdude> sorry I have to remove some sensitive data here and there
[18:31] <PCdude> *had
[18:31] <kiko> hah
[18:31] <kiko> dnssec strikes again
[18:32] <kiko> PCdude, what does a "grep dnsssec" on your bind config return?
[18:32] <PCdude> so I have to issue: grep "dnssec" /var/log/syslog | tail ?
[18:33] <kiko> PCdude, no, /etc/bind/*
[18:33] <kiko> PCdude, possibly -r as it's /etc/bind/maas yes?
[18:35] <kiko> PCdude, but basically, you need to set "dnssec-enable no;" somewhere, and otherwise to complain to your forwarders :)
[18:35] <PCdude> I have done sudo grep "dnssec" -r /etc/bind/maas/ | tail
[18:35] <PCdude> is that correct?
[18:36] <kiko> PCdude, do it in /etc/bind
[18:37] <PCdude> u wanna see that output, right?
[18:37] <PCdude> http://pastebin.com/raw/Z7EQFz9i
[18:38] <kiko> PCdude, yeah
[18:38] <kiko> PCdude, so this line:
[18:38] <kiko> /etc/bind/maas/named.conf.options.inside.maas:dnssec-validation auto;
[18:39] <kiko> needs to become "dnssec-enable no; dnssec-validation no"
[18:39] <kiko> err
[18:39] <kiko> needs to become "dnssec-enable no; dnssec-validation no;"
[18:39] <kiko> do that, restart bind and you'll be fine
[18:39] <PCdude> kiko: I think that can be done from within the MAAS web GUI :)
[18:40] <kiko> PCdude, it can?
[18:40] <kiko> PCdude, if it can, could you send me a screenshot showing it?
[18:41] <kiko> gurki, if you see this later, just /msg me
[18:42] <PCdude> on the settings page this setting is present
[18:42] <PCdude> http://imgur.com/a/fRUqK
[18:42] <PCdude> kiko: that is exactly what I need to change right?
[18:44] <kiko> PCdude, correct. turn that off.
[18:45] <PCdude> YEAH! I turned it off and the DNS resolves succeed!
[18:46] <PCdude> kiko: many thanks!
[18:54] <kiko> PCdude, you're welcome. that's an annoying problem.
[18:55] <PCdude> kiko:  this really helped me out, where are u from?
[18:56] <kiko> PCdude, I work at Canonical, if that's what you are asking?
[18:56] <PCdude> haha good to know too, but I was more interested in what country u are from?
[18:58] <kiko> PCdude, from brazil
[18:58] <kiko> PCdude, filled in the answer to http://askubuntu.com/questions/820925/how-do-i-set-a-dns-server-in-maas-that-will-be-passed-on-to-the-nodes/821368#821368
[18:59] <PCdude> kiko: ah ok, good to know! I upvoted and gave it the mark as correct answer
[18:59] <kiko> PCdude, thanks! where are you from?
[19:00] <PCdude> kiko: I am from the netherlands
[19:00] <PCdude> how old are u?
[19:00] <kiko> PCdude, old enough to be on IRC!
[19:00] <kiko> heh
[19:01] <PCdude> kiko: haha good ;)
[19:03] <PCdude> kiko: any experience with openstack?
[19:03] <kiko> PCdude, well.. some
[19:04] <PCdude> kiko: the problem u helped with was the error that was stopping openstack from installing, so I thought that was the last one
[19:04] <PCdude> kiko:  but luckily..... its not
[19:04] <PCdude> kiko: u wanna help?
[19:04] <kiko> PCdude, heh, there are always more problems then time
[19:05] <kiko> PCdude, I can try
[19:05] <PCdude> kiko: let me post the error log of the isntall
[19:09] <PCdude> http://pastebin.com/raw/rLZUTvKP
[19:09] <PCdude> this is the whole log of the install
[19:10] <PCdude> kiko: apparently for landscape it is trying to install a package that fails
[19:10] <kiko> [ERROR: 09-05 20:59:46, multi.py:384] Problem deploying Landscape: {'err': 'sudo: juju-deployer: command not found\n', 'status': 1, 'output': ''}
[19:11] <kiko> PCdude, you need juju-deployer installed
[19:11] <kiko> is that a bug in landscape I wonder?
[19:11] <kiko> PCdude, apt-get install juju-deployer
[19:12] <PCdude> sudo apt-cache policy juju-deployer does indeed show that it is not installed
[19:12] <PCdude> but I am wondering, this should be something that the landscape installer should do right?
[19:17] <PCdude> kiko: why do I even need that package? haha
[19:19] <kiko> PCdude, it's because landscape uses it. it seems like it's a real proper bug
[19:21] <PCdude> kiko: so for the time being I can install it myself and file a report for a bugt
[19:21] <PCdude> *bug
[19:22] <kiko> PCdude, yep
[19:23] <PCdude> kiko: ah ok, lets try that
[19:25] <PCdude> kiko: do u work remote with canonical or is there an office nearby?
[19:26] <kiko> PCdude, remote
[19:29] <PCdude> kiko: ah ok cool, what are u responsible for?
[19:29] <PCdude> kiko: I am trying to install openstack rn
[19:29] <PCdude> fingers crossed :)
[19:32] <kiko> PCdude, maas and storage are mine
[19:34] <PCdude> kiko: ah ok nice
[19:35] <kiko> I need to split -- catch you tomorrow
[19:36] <PCdude> kiko: ah ok, see u tomorrow
[20:26] <PCdude> kiko: I dont know if u are still around, but the openstack installer is failing again but at a later point
[20:26] <PCdude> step 3 out of 4
[20:26] <PCdude> the screen show the following:
[20:30] <PCdude> http://imgur.com/a/Z47K1
[20:30] <PCdude> and just stays there
[21:20] <PCdude> the nodes have internet so there can't be the problem


[00:31] <aney> Hello everybody ,  I get some trouble when I starting the lubuntu of powerpc.
[00:32] <aney> When I start the lightdm , the screen is just pictures with no text.
[00:32] <phillw> aney: which version of lubuntu?
[00:32] <aney> v12.10
[00:34] <aney> when I configure my xorg.conf , It just says:number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. configure faild.
[00:35] <phillw> aney: you need to catch it and enter some boot parameters to have the various graphics cards that apple have used work.... head over to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/PPC%26Mac64#Other_links for more information on the links to get it running. It is not a lubuntu issue, it is a PPC issue.
[00:38] <aney> I'v searched online , and did as what they said , but it still not work. I will try this .Anyway thanks for your help!
[00:39] <phillw> aney: one of the links from that page is http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=328 highly recommended :)
[00:40] <aney> OK , thanks ^--^
[00:41] <phillw> aney: the 'reboot required' bug seems to have now been solved... but it is only in 13.10 which the 1st test release was made today.
[00:43] <aney> I'v downloaed it , and burning it to a CD , but I can't boot it.
[00:43] <ianorlin> didn't he say 12.10 not 13.10?
[00:47] <holstein> !ppc
[00:49] <phillw> ianorlin: there have been bugs nagging PPC since 12.10, which are kernel based. there has been a major effort to get them resolved for 13.10. The 1st release of the new ppc kernel landed today in the desktop systems after being heavily tested in the server area.
[00:49] <ianorlin> ok
[00:51] <aney> Yes , my Powerbook G4 works well with 12.04 .But can't boot with 12.10 or 13.04/10 .
[00:52] <aney> I just used the alternate version.
[00:53] <aney> And installed 12.10 in text mode.
[00:54] <phillw> aney: the 13.10 arrived a few hours ago, do give it a try.
[00:56] <phillw> aney: do *not* use earlier 13.10 ISO's, they were known as broken whilst the kernel was sorted out.
[01:15] <aney> Sure , thanks buddies . What a terrible network , I can't stand it any more .
[04:29] <TannedVampire> I have peppermint which is derived from lubuntu.  I was trying to get rid off peppermint logout session and use only "shutdown".  I could not get it working.  I already followed ubuntu instruction but failed to see results.
[04:30] <TannedVampire> I tried /etc/acpi/events/powerbutton.sh
[04:30] <TannedVampire> it doesn't work.
[04:30] <TannedVampire> why?
[04:30] <TannedVampire> could somebody help me out?
[04:32] <TannedVampire> I'll close this chat.
[19:46] <manik> Hello.
[19:46] <manik> Can anybody tell me how to increase the size of Menu?
[19:52] <zleap> not sure
[19:52] <zleap> i can make the panel bigger, panel icons bigger but not the acutal menu (13.04)
[19:54] <manik> zleap how to do that? I just want to make it taller
[19:54] <zleap> right click on the panel, goto panel settings
[19:55] <manik> yes
[19:56] <zleap> you then have options for icon size and panel height
[19:56] <zleap> under geometry
[19:56] <manik> yup
[19:56] <zleap> but that doesn't change the actual physical size of the menu
[19:56] <manik> but that would be for the taskbar, not Menu, rght?
[19:56] <manik> yes, exactly
[19:56] <zleap> yeah
[19:56] <zleap> but the menu icon is bigger
[19:57] <manik> how
[19:58] <manik> will try and search again. Thanks. :) zleap
[19:59] <zleap> np
[21:40] <Guest77117> how do you save the setting to view files as detailed list instead of icons list?
[21:50] <phillw> Guest77117: it is on the wish list... still drived me mad :)
[21:58] <phillw> Guest77117: I'll go and ask the dev on our behalf, he's a nice guy and as this is a bug and not a new feature I have hope that it can be sorted out.
[22:53] <phillw> Guest77117: I've sent an email to the developer of pcmanfm to ask that he fix this. He;s pretty quick on such issues and we can expect a fix within about the next week.
[22:59] <Guest77117> okay, thanks


[02:09] <sephthir> I was wondering if someone could give me some direction to look in for the methods the Ubuntu install isos (particularly the alternate install image) are generated. Anyone have a direction to look?