[11:42] <arooni> org.eclipse.core.runtime.CoreException: Plug-in org.eclipse.ui.ide was unable toload class org.eclipse.ui.internal.ide.IDEApplication.
[11:42] <LaszloKv> Trist_an and security =share
[11:42] <mneptok> ikonia_: http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,130923-page,1-c,linux/article.html
[11:42] <Trist_an> I never had trouble with Automatix
[11:42] <berent> !fiesty
[11:42] <ubotu> FEISTY IS OUT! Party in #ubuntu-release-party - Torrent downloads at http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ - Metalinks (use with Aria2 or, under Windows, GetRight) at http://download.packages.ro/metalink/ubuntu/
[11:42] <ikonia_> mneptok thanks
[11:42] <LaszloKv> Trist_an No, that's how I started out.
[11:42] <bullgard4> orbin: What is the difference between 'to open a terminal' and 'to open a terminal up'?
[11:42] <mneptok> magnetron: why are you telling me about Automatix? :)
[11:43] <berent> spikeb : what are the major enhancements in fiesty?
[11:43] <Trist_an> LaszloKv, after modification did you restar samba?
[11:43] <magnetron> !automatix > magnetron
[11:43] <LaszloKv> Trist_an Yep.
[11:43] <spikeb> berent, updated packages, and the restricted drivers manager.
[11:43] <bitninja25> Hey guys, I have a question about the wireless networks manager...for some reason when I put in my key, which I know is right because I use it on live CDs and the like, the box keeps coming back. I guess Ubuntu has out-of-the-box support for the IPW3945 chipset because that's what I'm using in case it helps...
[11:43] <arooni> can someone help me installing eclipse
[11:43] <arooni> its dying for me
[11:43] <Trist_an> LaszloKv, and it doesn't work. Can you see your folder?
[11:43] <Decadent> I've problems on updating to feisty from edgy. When i start to update it gives an error saying: Your system does not contain ubuntu-desctop package and it was not possible to detect which version of ubuntu you are running. please install one of the packages above first using synaptik
[11:43] <bullgard4> magnetron: Your answer is insufficient. I do know what a terminal is.
[11:43] <Decadent> wha must i do??
[11:43] <berent> spikeb : how do i install just a server version?
[11:44] <mneptok> bullgard4: what are you trying to do?
[11:44] <spikeb> berent, you can download a server install cd image, if you wish.
[11:44] <tommy_> can someone help me?
[11:44] <berent> spikeb : cant i upgrade to it?
[11:44] <LaszloKv> Trist_an, When I go to my ip address I can see the folder I want shared, but when I click it, it says my permission might be denied.
[11:44] <magnetron> bullgard4: it means open a terminal
[11:44] <mneptok> HI JONO! WELCOME TO HAPPYLAND!
[11:44] <tommy_> im having that same tty error when trying to install 7.04
[11:44] <mneptok> *facepalm*
[11:44] <orbin> bullgard4: IMO it's the same thing
[11:44] <spikeb> berent, the upgrade process will just upgrade whatever you have installed.
[11:44] <Trist_an> LaszloKv, you don't have a ; before security = share right?
[11:45] <arooni> how can i find all files on my comp with eclipse in them
[11:45] <bullgard4> mneptok: I am trying to understand why screen could help me to use irssi better as Ubuntu documentation suggests.
[11:45] <richard-blaine>  ikonia_ : well, there's a md5sum.txt for every file inside the dvd iso, I guess that will do, considering.
[11:45] <arooni> i mean eclipse in titles
[11:45] <jono> mneptok: can I join the happy club?
[11:45] <Trist_an> LaszloKv, I can post my  smb.conf if you want
[11:45] <berent> spikeb: how long will it take to upgrade. i mean size
[11:45] <LaszloKv> Trist_an, Nope, no semi-colon.
[11:45] <bullgard4> magnetron: Thank you.
[11:45] <Jove`> arooni: find / -name *eclipse*
[11:45] <ryancr> hmmm it seems that the titlebar of the window is not even there, right clicking it gives me the menu as if i right clicked on my desktop
[11:45] <mneptok> jono: sure. get in line for your requisite lobotomy. :)
[11:45] <ryancr> silly compiz
[11:45] <ay_> Hi Is there any alternative dapper drake installation CD's?
[11:45] <ay_> (with newer kernels)
[11:45] <bullgard4> orbin: Ok. Thank you.
[11:45] <magnetron> arooni: don't delete the files manually, use synaptic to install /uninstall software
[11:46] <gustavo> is there any way to upgrade a 386 system to amd-64?
[11:46] <LaszloKv> Trist_an, Posting your smb.conf would probably help.
[11:46] <Trist_an> LaszloKv, http://pastebin.ca/449610
[11:46] <mneptok> bullgard4: if you don't know what a terminal is, irssi+screen will be more frustration than its worth, IMO.
[11:46] <Trist_an> LaszloKv, I have to go for lunch. pm if if it works or not
[11:46] <Tomcat_> ay_: No. Dapper only has old kernels, it's the whole point of new releases to get new software ;)
[11:46] <mneptok> bullgard4: use a GUI client until you get on your feet in Linux, and revisit this in a couple months.
[11:46] <bullgard4> mneptok: Who tells you that I do not know what a 'terminal' is?  I do know what a terminal is.  <--- sorry, read too fast
[11:47] <coz_> who is resonsible for the feisty beryl default repo
[11:47] <ay_> Tomcat_: Eh. Yes. But not for LTS-releases.
[11:47] <bullgard4> mneptok: Your speech contradicts the Ubuntu rules.
[11:47] <mneptok> bullgard4: what are you stuck on?
[11:47] <ay_> Tomcat_: Servers that is.
[11:47] <foug> is there a command to refresh my memory? so it's not all cached
[11:47] <matt__> so anything that is worth checking out that feisty can do that edgy couldn't do?
[11:47] <mneptok> bullgard4: excuse me?
[11:47] <dgold> babo: those are non-canonical repos
[11:47] <ay_> Debian usually has loads of alternative bootdisks.
[11:47] <berent> spikeb: how long will it take to upgrade. i mean size
[11:48] <ay_> After it's up and running. Kernel isn't a problem.
[11:48] <magnetron> Notchnick: if you have the Ubuntu desktop cd, you can use that. it has gparted on it already
[11:48] <Tomcat_> ay_: Why shouldn't it be? Old releases are frozen, new releases get new kernels.
[11:48] <spikeb> berent, hmm, no idea actually i havent upgraded
[11:48] <protocol1> hey I got those ATI drivers installed
[11:48] <ay_> Tomcat_: So what do you suggest I run on a productions server (Say 20 of them)
[11:48] <magnetron> protocol1: nice
[11:48] <babo> dgold: why is it going to non-canonical repos ? Should I comment them out of my repo selection ?
[11:48] <protocol1> yeah they awesome
[11:49] <berent> mneptok : how long will it take to upgrade from 6.1 to 7.04. i mean size
[11:49] <babo> what's that file called again ?
[11:49] <MagnusR> Hi! Is it an easy way to see what packages are new in the repository for feisty compared to edgy?
[11:49] <dgold> bullgard4: the irssi+screen combo is good if you leave your irssi session running on a emote computer, which means you can come back to it later without losing connectivity
[11:49] <pukkie> orbin: thanks, but now i still don't know nothing about the repositories and such :) are they the same?
[11:49] <tommy_> someone
[11:49] <Tomcat_> ay_: Either dapper (with your own kernel, if you absolutely need it), or edgy (which is quite stable now).
[11:49] <mneptok> berent: depends on how you do it.
[11:49] <ay_> I can't upgrade dist on servers every 18 months. When you got hundreds of them. That's what LTS is for.
[11:49] <tommy_> how do i fix this :            /bin/sh: can't access tty: Job control turned off
[11:49] <protocol1> hopefully I dont lockup in Counter Stike now
[11:49] <dgold> babo: check the comments file - see *why* the freecontrib.org/plf stanza is in your sources.list
[11:50] <berent> mneptok : i am doing it via update-manager
[11:50] <guillem101> noiesmo, The process seems to be as follows: 1 kill process called "feisty" 2 goto /etc/apt and copy sources.list.distUpgrade to sources.list
[11:50] <Tomcat_> ay_: Yes, but if the kernel doesn't support your hardware, it's usually too new. You can't run MS-DOS 5.0 on current systems either ;)
[11:50] <ay_> Tomcat_: I can't run edgy, because that is out of support in a short while. dapper with own kernel is nice. But how.
[11:50] <mneptok> berent: good luck. the mirrors are hammered.
[11:50] <Angel-SL> hi, where do i find the MD5SUMs?
[11:50] <orbin> pukkie: my guess is yes, but perhaps you should ask in the relevant channel?  i don't run one.
[11:50] <bullgard4> dgold: But if I do not  use a remote computer, screen will give no value added, right?
[11:50] <guillem101> noiesmo, I'm reboooting to see if I can continue from where I was...
[11:50] <mneptok> berent: that will take quite a bit of time
[11:50] <Stig> Hi. How to I check to make sure my nvidia graphics drivers are installed correctly?
[11:50] <Tomcat_> ay_: There are guides for getting your own kernel in dapper...
[11:50] <adultswim> I read online that you're supposed to go to System > Preferences > Session > Session Options to disable the gnome splash screen, but the option isnt there... did it get moved to a adifferent place for fiesty?
[11:50] <ay_> Tomcat_: Yes of course. But you need to get the installer running first.
[11:50] <berent> mneptok : any idea about size approx .
[11:51] <ay_> Can't install if the installer does not see the raid or the networkcard.
[11:51] <Angel-SL> hi, where do i find the MD5SUMs?
[11:51] <tommy_> how do i fix this:               "/bin/sh: can't access tty: Job control turned off"
[11:51] <Tomcat_> ay_: I guess I don't have a good solution then. :\
[11:51] <mneptok> berent: no idea. depends on the individual.
[11:51] <ay_> This goes for _all_ new Dell's and IBM servers.
[11:51] <dgold> bullgard4: I use screen on non-networked computers - I like to be able to create new windows, run processed and come back to them without worrying about closing the gnome-terminal window. YMMV
[11:51] <lzap> hello, how to upgrade from a mirror? I mean, I wonder to click on update in update-manager, its so slow and I wonder if it will use the main archive (which is currently under high load)
[11:51] <babo> dgold: I dunno. It just says Penguin Liberation Front. I guess I shoudl comment out that and quite a few of the other repos too ? They are probably getting /. with the upgrade ...
[11:51] <Tomcat_> ay_: You can try Debian, that might work.
[11:51] <alleyoopster> Angel-SL: you can find them on the cd
[11:51] <berent> mneptok : individual. what do u mean?
[11:51] <tommy_> is anyone having the same problem as me?                    "/bin/sh: can't access tty: Job control turned off"
[11:51] <Angel-SL> alleyoopster: ...
[11:51] <magnetron> !md5 | Angel-SL
[11:51] <ay_> Tomcat_: Yes. That's whats we've been running for the last 10 years.
[11:52] <Tomcat_> ay_: As I said, you can't expect old software to run on new servers, and Ubuntu only gets an LTS release every couple of years... :\
[11:52] <Angel-SL> !md5
[11:52] <babo> do I have to reload anything after updating sources.list ?
[11:52] <orbin> Stig: run glxinfo and you should hopefully see stuff about nvidia and direct rendering should say yes.
[11:52] <mneptok> berent: if you have hundreds of extra packages installed that i don't, your upgrade takes longer.
[11:52] <BlackAnthrax> so any new software for feisty worth checking out?
[11:52] <ay_> Tomcat_: That's why you release newer install-media.
[11:52] <Stig> Is System > Administration > Restricted drivers manager the correct way to install GFX drivers on Feisty for my nvidia graphics card?
[11:52] <ubotu> Angel-SL: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[11:52] <bullgard4> dgold: Understood. Thank you very much.
[11:52] <mrigns> aaaah this torrent issue annoys me :( the logs won't show any probs
[11:52] <mneptok> Stig: yes
[11:52] <mrigns> it's just not working, im clueless
[11:52] <ay_> Or someone has a repository of alternative install-media.
[11:52] <ay_> But I havn't found one yet.
[11:52] <orbin> babo: yes, click reload in synaptic or run sudo apti-get update
[11:53] <tommy_> whats this:    /bin/sh: can't access tty: Job control turned off, help me!
[11:53] <orbin> *apt-get
[11:53] <bef_> My name is jimmy mcpeach and I want an ubuntu on my repositorital portail?
[11:53] <Stig> Thanks. By the way, I think Feisty is absolutely awsome. I was new to Edgy and found it hell trying to install my network, wireless card drivers, etc. Feisty done it all for me when I first booted it up! :P
[11:53] <ay_> Tomcat_: Or a way to load newer drivers during install from a cd or floppy.
[11:53] <adultswim> how do i disable the gnome splash screen in feisty?
[11:53] <alleyoopster> Angel-SL: if you have the cd , there is a file there md5, but I see the bot got off his arse :)
[11:53] <berent> mneptok : ok lets say i press upgrade button in update-manager . will it show me size and ask me if i want to proceed or directly start off upgrading
[11:53] <tommy_> whats this: /bin/sh: can't access tty: Job control turned off, help me!
[11:53] <dgold> babo: those sound like 3rd aprty repos which were added for specific tasks. comment them in, then run synaptic. In synpatic, click on the 'status' button, and select the 'Installed (local or obsolete)' - this will give you an idea of what was installed "ex-cathedra"
[11:53] <mneptok> adultswim: System -> Admin -> Login Window
[11:53] <Angel-SL> i need the sum for 7.04, as i suspect my ISO is corrupted!@
[11:53] <tommy_> whats this: /bin/sh: can't access tty: Job control turned off, help me!
[11:54] <guillem101> noiesmo, Yess! it works
[11:54] <Angel-SL> and i can't burn.
[11:54] <mneptok> berent: have you started this process?
[11:54] <tommy_> whats this: /bin/sh: can't access tty: Job control turned off, help me!
[11:54] <magnetron> !md5 > Angel-SL
[11:54] <mneptok> tommy_: please do not repeat
[11:54] <bitninja25> Hey guys can anyone help me with a wireless config problem?
[11:54] <berent> mneptok : nope. thats why i am asking
[11:54] <tommy_> sorry, im frustrated
[11:54] <adultswim> mneptok: no it isnt... thats just login settings... (if i'm wrong, which tab is it under cuz i didnt see it)
[11:55] <os2mac> can anyone recommend a keyserver?
[11:55] <ikonia_> keyserver ?
[11:55] <Angel-SL> magnetron: I don't have the sum to compare with!!
[11:55] <os2mac> gpg keyserver for email signatures
[11:55] <babo> is it safe to surf the net while upgrading ?
[11:55] <mneptok> berent: use a torrent to get the alternate CD. torrent downloads are really healthy right now. then, update your sources.list swapping "feisty" for "edgy" and ensure the Feisty CD is an available repo.
[11:55] <Stig> OK. It looks like the nvidia drivers are installed. Now I would like a good desktop themes, etc. On Edgy I tried Beryl and had nothing but problems with it, it seemed to make my Ubuntu very slow, even though I have a very good hardware. What is Compiz like? Is it more stable than Beryl? Do I need to use both, or do they basically do the same thing?
[11:56] <fran> hola alguien de espaa
[11:56] <mneptok> berent: it's like getting repo updates at BitTorrent speeds ;)
[11:56] <magnetron> Angel-SL: so download the sum to compare with
[11:56] <noiesmo> guillem101, :)
[11:56] <fran> hola alguien de espaa
[11:56] <Angel-SL> magnetron: WHERE?!
[11:56] <magnetron> !es > fran
[11:56] <adultswim> stig, im using beryl on a low end computer, and it looks really good... no performance problems.
[11:56] <magnetron> !md5 > Angel-SL
[11:56] <TheoMurpse> i just upgraded to Feisty, and when I select it in GRUB, it loads up a bit, then black screens and freezes. What can I do to diagnose th problem?
[11:57] <Angel-SL> magnetron: NEITHER of these two links provide them!!!!
[11:57] <lieter> Hi guys, how can i set VLC as default media player?
[11:57] <fran> hello
[11:57] <Stig> Whenever I tried to minimize windows, scroll down pages, close windows, etc. It was VERY slow... When I changed the windows manager to default, it was much better
[11:57] <fran> spain
[11:57] <Stig> I might give it a try, if it messes up again, can I uninstall it OK?
[11:57] <mneptok> adultswim: switch from Themed
[11:57] <fran> illo alguien de espaa cojone
[11:57] <fran> ablarme porfa
[11:57] <broyles> Hi all, i am trying to install 7.04 desktop on my laptop and when it reboots all i am getting is Hard disk boot sector invalid, i have tried to install grub manually but 0 joy any help?
[11:58] <orbin> lieter: video files? dvds?  both?
[11:58] <lieter> orbin, both
[11:58] <magnetron> Ange-SL: the md5s are to find at the sameplace as the isos
[11:58] <lieter> i dislike mplayer for some reason (i used vlc on windows before ;))
[11:59] <Stig> So is it best to use Beryl and Compiz together? Is it easier to install on Feisty than it was on Edgy?
[11:59] <orbin> lieter: well my method:  for files, in nautilus, right-click on the video file > properties > open with tab.
[12:00] <SubMOA> ok... got a good question for you programmers... I am looking for a way to "auto-hide" my panel when I mouse over a certain area.  I have Beryl and  I can activate sides/corners, etc. to run scripts (I think).  Anyway, it is on the LEFT SIDE (running up and down) and I want the autohide to move the panel UP and DOWN (not left and right like the generic autohide does)  Any help?
[12:00] <orbin> lieter: for DVDs, sys > prefs > removable > multimedia tab
[12:00] <mc44> Stig: you cant use both at the same time
[12:00] <magnetron> Stig: use one at a time. Compiz is bundled with feisty and easy to enable
[12:00] <Stig> oh ok
[12:00] <Stig> I might as well try Compiz firsy
[12:00] <Stig> tfirst*
[12:00] <Stig> first* :O
[12:00] <pleb2> hey ppl i need help
[12:00] <Stig> How do I enable Compiz then?
[12:01] <matason> What's the name of the restricted madwidi package that Ubuntu 6.06 uses?
[12:01] <SubMOA> the new (unsupported) beryl plugin for grouping is awesome... it's like the windows on the Sun Java OS (forgot the name) where you can have windows on the back of windows.
[12:01] <LjL> !helpme
[12:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:01] <lieter> orbin, ok i changed totem %m to vlc %m
[12:01] <LjL> Stig: System / Preferences / Desktop effects
[12:01] <lieter> for DVD's
[12:01] <Angel-SL> magnetron: there is only up to 6.10 at UbuntuHashes!
[12:01] <predaeus> SubMOA, probably ask in ##gnome as this is the gnome-panel or in #kde or where if you are using kde
[12:01] <pleb2> im trying to install java into firefox in ubuntu and whenever i try it, using the step by step on the java site.... it crashes firefox and i have to remove it again... is there not a package for this like the sun-java5-plugin in debian????
[12:01] <Stig> thanks
[12:01] <Hairulfr> SubMOA: Nice :) where'd you get it?
[12:01] <broyles> Hi all, i am trying to install 7.04 desktop on my laptop and when it reboots all i am getting is Hard disk boot sector invalid, i have tried to install grub manually via a chroot but still no joy
[12:02] <SubMOA> predaeus, Ahhaa... thank you... I didn't even think of that.  Much appreciated.
[12:02] <SubMOA> Hairulfr, its in the repos under "unsupported" or something to that effect.  I think there was a video of it, let me check
[12:03] <jojo2024> someone knows why the hell the feisty/sympa-5.2.3 package creates an empty database ???
[12:03] <jojo2024> (an empty mysql database)
[12:03] <Lucas> i have a problem....i cant activate nvidia drivers....when i activate them nothing happens....then i restart the computer but still nothing....pls help
[12:04] <mc44> Lucas: how do you know the drivers arent enabled?
[12:04] <SubMOA> Hairulfr, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eotwBwXquqw&NR
[12:04] <pukkie> jojo2024: ? called test by any chance?
[12:04] <TheoMurpse> i just upgraded to Feisty, and when I select it in GRUB, it loads up a bit, then black screens and freezes. What can I do to diagnose th problem?
[12:04] <jwise> congratulation for feisty release!
[12:04] <QwertyM> Problem : I installed a fresh feisty copy now, did an apt-get install of nvidia-legacy-something and nvidia-common and nvidia-xgl-config (3 things in total, one was already installed Apt reported) Now on reboot, after the boot up screen it just hangs on a black screen... any fixes?
[12:04] <TheoMurpse> QwertyM sounds like my problem I'm having right now
[12:04] <Unspeaking> Thanks for the help here's what I got afterwards:
[12:04] <Lucas> becous when i want to activate desktop effects it is  always asking me to turn on nvidia drivers
[12:05] <Trentster> how do i sort out this problem when i run an apt-get update "W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:05] <QwertyM> TheoMurpse: Oh, okay, good if it has a fix, cause am not in a mood to reinstall again :(
[12:05] <brahmin63> hi there
[12:05] <LjL> !gpgerr > Trentster    (Trentster, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:05] <vslash> QUIT
[12:05] <TheoMurpse> QwertyM I've no idea if it has a fix. I'm looking at a black screen right now for the past 10 minutes :(
[12:05] <jojo2024> pukkie : i don't undestand your answer ....
[12:05] <Gabz> !gpgerr
[12:05] <ubotu> Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Read the top section of http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:05] <mc44> TheoMurpse: what graphics card do you have?
[12:06] <QwertyM> TheoMurpse: What could be the issue but? I got an 7600 GT AGP 8x
[12:06] <pukkie> jojo2024: mysql by default has an empty database called test every distribution i ever came across has it
[12:06] <TheoMurpse> mc44 S3 or something. It's onboard graphics in an Averatec laptop.
[12:06] <LjL> Trentster: i'm not really sure it's explained at the top of the *page* anymore, but if you generate a custom sources.list from it, it's explained in there (and the key hashes given)
[12:06] <jojo2024> pukkie, ok for a test base but not OK for an empty SYMPA base
[12:07] <Trentster> LjL, thanks
[12:07] <brahmin63> is there any way to encrypt whole filesystem and then access it from windows with samba?
[12:07] <Hairulfr> SubMOA: Nice ,cheers
[12:07] <tommy_> about two mins into installing 7.04 (feisty) this error comes up :
[12:07] <tommy_> Busy Box v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-3ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash)
[12:07] <tommy_> Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands
[12:07] <Lucas> i've tried change the /etc/X11/xorg.conf but the X crushes
[12:07] <epimeteo> i'm trying to install horde3 in an ubuntu server to make a tutorial to install horde3 in ubuntu. I installed it with aptitude horde3, all went well, but i can't get to horde3 to work. I believe there's some post-install configurations to do, but i can't find any documentation apart the one in the official site and those are not for debian/ubuntu. could anybody help me about this, please?
[12:07] <tommy_> /bin/sh: can't access tty: Job control turned off
[12:07] <tommy_> (initramfs)
[12:07] <QwertyM> How do you switch to another virtual terminal btw? Alt F1 ?
[12:07] <alleyoopster> tommy_ it's a bug
[12:07] <Unspeaking> Please append a correct "root" boot option root device "<null>" unknown (8,3) VFS: cannot open kernal panic - not syncing: VFS unable to mount root FS on unknown - block (8,3)
[12:07] <TheoMurpse> mc44: yES, it's got S3 graphics onboard the mobo.
[12:07] <Unspeaking> Any idea :-s
[12:07] <sand_storm> hi
[12:08] <LjL> QwertyM: Alt Fsomething, yes
[12:08] <LjL> QwertyM: Alt F7 is X. from inside X, you need Ctrl Alt Fsomething
[12:08] <tommy_> any solution for this "bug" yet?
[12:08] <QwertyM> LjL: Okay, thanks. Unfortunately my X is broken though :P
[12:09] <brahmin63> is here anyone security related?
[12:09] <LjL> QwertyM: how broken?
[12:09] <alleyoopster> tommy_ not that I can see, there is a long discussion on it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2486049#post2486049
[12:09] <linoleum> hello, how can I install my 8800gtx with feisty ? it doent work and the nivida drivers with nvidia-glx is too old
[12:09] <QwertyM> Weird, Alt + F2 gives me a cursor blinking thats all...
[12:09] <QwertyM> Um, no splash, just boot screen and then a blank black LjL
[12:09] <LjL> QwertyM: means there's no terminal running on it, for some reason
[12:09] <glick> howdy
[12:09] <mc44> linoleum: nvidia-glx-new
[12:10] <glick> hows the new feisty
[12:10] <glick> ?
[12:10] <LjL> QwertyM: so you cannot get to a terminal at all?
[12:10] <alleyoopster> tommy_ you can add your story here, I did
[12:10] <QwertyM> LjL: Am on Alt+F1 on recovery mode boot now
[12:10] <Slart> Hello, for some reason my external dvd drive is automounted in /media/floppy0, this isn't a very big problem but I'd like to know how I can change it to.. say /media/dvd instead.  How is it possible that I can see it with an apt-cache search nvidia-glx-new, and I cannot see them in the add/remove appliction, nor in the restricted drivers manager?
[12:11] <brahmin63> is there any way to encrypt whole filesystem and then access it from windows with samba?
[12:11] <pikkio> magnetron: tx
[12:11] <tommy_> yes im on it now
[12:11] <QwertyM> LjL: Any idea if nvidia packages are broken by any chance?
[12:11] <QwertyM> TheoMurpse: Works?
[12:11] <LjL> QwertyM: i really don't think, but i cannot quite tell because i think i still have "leftover" unofficial packages from edgy
[12:12] <sigix> can anyone help me with this bug?:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/105115
[12:12] <TheoMurpse> QwertyM: recovery mode works, and then when i run startx, it loads properly. Everything is up and looking great.
[12:12] <mc44> linoleum: hmm not sure, I thought retricted manager could cope with that
[12:12] <rambo3> make it clickeble sigix
[12:12] <TheoMurpse> I wonder what it is about regular boot
[12:12] <alleyoopster> tommy_ some folks reported this breaking edgy after upgrade, so proceed with caution with this machine, read up on it a bit
[12:12] <glick> is it easy to dual boot feisty and vista?
[12:12] <sigix> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/105115
[12:12] <Masse^^> glick: Yes
[12:12] <QwertyM> LjL: Okay. :)
[12:12] <QwertyM> TheoMurpse: Ohk, lemme try. Btw, try normal boot now?
[12:12] <alleyoopster> tommy_ maybe worth staying with edgy until it is fixed
[12:12] <magnetron> glick: yes it is
[12:13] <tommy_> i will, but this ubuntu 6.10 has nothing important on it so i wouldnt care if it gets wiped
[12:13] <glick> sweet
[12:13] <mohammed> hi. what is the difference between hte dvd and cd versions of feisty?
[12:13] <barktpolar> Hello Ubuntu Users
[12:13] <alleyoopster> tommy_ if you upgrade that might just happen ;)
[12:13] <magnetron> !dualboot > glick
[12:14] <rambo3> sigix, status on that bug is confirmd and high , pach should be out soon
[12:14] <tommy_> no loss, ive already wiped once today thinking that if i get rid of GRUB it will work.....it didnt
[12:14] <Chai_Sangeen> what's the ubuntu hangout channel?
[12:14] <barktpolar> Who uses 7.04?
[12:14] <Lucas> I do
[12:14] <Slart> #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps?
[12:14] <barktpolar> #ubuntu-offtopic I think
[12:15] <Slart> =)
[12:15] <sigix> yeah, my update-manager is in a boinked state and I was just trying to fix it...
[12:15] <magnetron> !offtopic > Chai_Sangeen
[12:15] <TheoMurpse> so qwerty disappeared...
[12:15] <barktpolar> I love the system, I have the internet working on it and finally for once, my sound works
[12:15] <naja_> hi
[12:15] <Chai_Sangeen> thanx guys
[12:15] <M_Fatih> hi
[12:15] <brahmin63>  is there any way to encrypt whole filesystem and then access it from windows with samba?
[12:16] <dsdg> Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main libssl0.9.8 0.9.8a-7ubuntu0.3
[12:16] <IndyGunFreak> I'll be glad when everyone has 7.04, and the servers speed up..lol
[12:16] <Slart> brahmin63: i'm not sure if truecrypt can do this.. but perhaps..
[12:16] <dsdg> Connection failed
[12:16] <dsdg> any advice?
[12:16] <Slart> brahmin63: at least it can encrypt your filessystem
[12:16] <TheoMurpse> mc44: I can't even ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a terminal
[12:16] <barktpolar> dsdg, try using torrents?
[12:16] <mohammed> #leave
[12:16] <mc44> TheoMurpse: on normal boot?
[12:16] <Slart> IndyGunFreak: try some other server.. I updated from a server in finland.. got ~900kB/s
[12:16] <derventer> hi can anyone help me with a pcmcia+kismet?
[12:17] <TheoMurpse> mc44: yes, on normal; if i do recovery mode, and then startx, it seems to work dandy.
[12:17] <dsdg> barktpolar, i have never used it, is it difficult? maybe i should just get the deb file?
[12:17] <kleftisx> hello last night i was upgrade to feisty via terminal...and the power gets of as downloading the packages...so the computer shuts down. is there any way to resume downloads of feisty upgrades?
[12:17] <glick> looks like dell will be offering preinstalled ubuntu soon
[12:17] <IndyGunFreak> dsdg, i've got ti installed no prob, i had a torrent going at 600k... its been downloading programs via the package manager thats been slow.
[12:17] <pleb2> im trying to install java into firefox in ubuntu and whenever i try it, using the step by step on the java site.... it crashes firefox and i have to remove it again... is there not a package for this like the sun-java5-plugin in debian????
[12:17] <ay_> Is there a way to bootstrap the dapper installer with a edgy og feisty-installer? Or even a debian installer?
[12:17] <M_Fatih> i pressed CTRL+C when upgrading, and some packages broked. i'm trying to apt-get -f install or dpkg-reconfigure package but not works. "openoffice.org-style-default" package , can't remove/purge, reinstall reconfigure .. how must i do?
[12:17] <mc44> TheoMurpse: does it go black after the boot up with the orange bar, or before?
[12:17] <TheoMurpse> mc44: right now in normal mode it has done that loading-bar thing with the ubuntu logo
[12:17] <TheoMurpse> mc44: after the orange bar it goes black
[12:17] <barktpolar> dsdg: What are you using now?
[12:17] <magnetron> !java
[12:17] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[12:17] <mneptok> pleb2: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[12:17] <mc44> TheoMurpse: try ctrl-alt-bkspace?
[12:17] <CookedGryphon> kleftisx: it should do that automatically ifyou carry on the apt-get upgrade
[12:18] <alleyoopster> glick: where did you see this?
[12:18] <pleb2> mneptok thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[12:18] <TheoMurpse> mc44: and it's the kind of black where the OS is sending "all black" to it, as opposed to the monitor not getting power...
[12:18] <TheoMurpse> mc44: ctrl-alt-backspace also does nothing
[12:18] <glick> alleyoopster, at linuxhomepage.com
[12:18] <kleftisx> CookedGryphon : you mean apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[12:18] <glick> its an rss agregate site
[12:18] <ubuntu_noob> Hello,  error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp"  ?
[12:18] <bullgard4> kleftisx: You might consider the wget command.
[12:18] <dsdg> barktpolar, apt-get
[12:18] <glick> mike dell is runnin ubuntu on one of his new pcs
[12:18] <glick> feisty fawn
[12:18] <brahmin63> Slart: Im trying to to encrypt with dm-crypt and LUKS on Feisty  but not sure about sharing it then with samba
[12:18] <dsdg> barktpolar, in the console, i only have ssh to the box,
[12:18] <M_Fatih> -- i pressed CTRL+C when upgrading, and some packages broked. i'm trying to apt-get -f install or dpkg-reconfigure package but not works. "openoffice.org-style-default" package , i can't remove/purge, reinstall reconfigure.. what must i do?
[12:18] <mc44> TheoMurpse: so when you run startx in recovery mode does it go to the login screen or straight into gnome?
[12:19] <TheoMurpse> mc44 straight into gnome
[12:19] <barktpolar> What system I meant (Ubuntu, Windows)
[12:19] <mc44> TheoMurpse: sounds like a problem with gdm
[12:19] <dsdg> barktpolar, ubuntu dapper,
[12:19] <IndyGunFreak> glick, where did you hear that?(about Michael Dell?)
[12:19] <TheoMurpse> mc44: so i just let normal mode sit a while, and it's finally (after 5 minutes or so) brought up the login screen
[12:19] <barktpolar> then try the .torrent idea and see
[12:19] <CookedGryphon> kleftisx: yeah that too, it downloads all the packages individually to /var/cache/apt/ then installs them when its done
[12:20] <sand_storm> can anyone help me
[12:20] <mc44> TheoMurpse: hmm. Thats very odd
[12:20] <glick> http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/biographies/en/msd_computers
[12:20] <scrimple> helo, what is the best p2p program for ubuntu?
[12:20] <Slart> brahmin63: ah.. haven't used dm-crypt nor Luks.. but have you tried just sharing the mounted drive as usual in samba? I don't know if some kind of password pops up on the server or how it works... but it's worth a try
[12:20] <rambo3> glick, #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:20] <sand_storm> i downloaded ubuntu 7 were can i get the MD5 for it
[12:20] <M_Fatih> ? i pressed CTRL+C when upgrading, and some packages broked. i'm trying to apt-get -f install or dpkg-reconfigure package but not works. "openoffice.org-style-default" package , i can't remove/purge, reinstall reconfigure.. what must i do?
[12:20] <ubuntu_noob> hello How do I fix  error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp"  ? I've installed gcc and g++....
[12:20] <kleftisx> CookedGryphon : i try its and starts from the start again
[12:20] <ikonia_> sand_storm for the dvd or cdrom
[12:20] <sand_storm> iso
[12:20] <crzyboon> anyone here want to help me with a teeny weeny perl script :D
[12:20] <Slart> sand_storm: try the ubuntu site... don't know the exakt url but it ought to be there
[12:20] <alleyoopster> glick: I don't see it, there is an article with a  question about "Michael's Dells linux choice" (is this the one), but last I heard Dell didn't know what dist to use.
[12:20] <rambo3> ubuntu_noob, build-essential
[12:20] <ikonia_> sand_storm dvd or cdrom
[12:21] <Sputnik> Hello
[12:21] <sand_storm> 6.10 was the only one in the site
[12:21] <rambo3> and you  ll need libstdc++
[12:21] <glick> alleyoopster, follow that link i pasted
[12:21] <barktpolar> download it from one of the mirrors and ubuntu should have a bittorrent program in it to help you
[12:21] <ikonia_> sand_storm dvd or cdrom
[12:21] <ubuntu_noob> rambo3,thanks
[12:21] <Amec> where is sources.lst located?
[12:21] <sand_storm> cd
[12:21] <glick> alleyoopster, the first computer the laptop
[12:21] <ikonia_> Amec /etc
[12:21] <Amec> thanks
[12:21] <ikonia_> sand_storm it on ubuntus main download site
[12:21] <rambo3> Amec, use synatpic
[12:21] <Pronco> Amec, /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:22] <Sputnik> I'm having problem with second CD-Rom- /dev/scd1       /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0 (line from fstab), but there is no scd1 in /dev/ folder. What should I do?
[12:22] <Linuturk> my upgrade window isn't responsive. It is hung up at Installing new version of config file /etc/init.d/powernowd ...
[12:22] <glick> i cant wait for my 22inch widescreen from dell
[12:22] <Linuturk> what should I do?
[12:22] <brahmin63> Slart: yes, samba uses pass for authentication, and it works for me quite well, but i need to encrypt my data, and not sure about the compatibility, thanks anyway.
[12:22] <glick> beryl will look nice
[12:22] <ikonia_> glick we don't care
[12:22] <sand_storm> i cant find it
[12:23] <sand_storm> can anyone link me please
[12:23] <dimebar> glick: apart from black windows ;(
[12:23] <ikonia_> sand_storm md5sums for a fesity cdrom ?
[12:23] <lieter> hi guys, stupid question my opera locks up every now and then (opening a new tab etc) and then i cant browse, the windows fades to black (beryl?)
[12:23] <glick> ikonia, dont be hating
[12:23] <ikonia_> glick I'm not - but this channel is busy enough with out pointless converstion
[12:23] <dimebar> lieter: its a bug with the nVidia drivers
[12:23] <sand_storm> not sure it is 7.04
[12:23] <slackern> lieter, nvidia card?
[12:24] <Slart> Amec: /etc/apt/
[12:24] <CookedGryphon> kleftisx: are you sure? it wouldn't come up blah : already downloaded, i would jsut say fewer packages needed to be downloaded cos it can already see the others on your computer
[12:24] <slackern> lieter, ah as dimebar said then.
[12:24] <Madpilot> Amec, /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:24] <itguru> okay, I got a strange problem - I just downloaded and install ubuntu server, and I moved my website into /var/www/apache2-default/ and it's still showing the index of the directory
[12:24] <M_Fatih> Linuturk: selam
[12:24] <itguru> without my website showing up
[12:24] <alleyoopster> glick: ??
[12:24] <CookedGryphon> kleftisx: to prove it to yourself you could see how many packages it says need downloading, let it download a couple of small ones, then cancel it and run it again and you will see that it looks like its starting again but its actually not bothering re-downloading the packages you already got
[12:24] <lieter> no, not that bug :)
[12:24] <kleftisx> CookedGryphon : yes it have download all packages men thx
[12:24] <kleftisx> CookedGryphon : how to install them now all those packages? one by one?
[12:24] <CookedGryphon> Linuturk: have you looked at the terminal window? it might be asking you a question
[12:24] <lieter> slackern, i can still see contents in black&white
[12:24] <CookedGryphon> kleftisx: nope, just do exactly what you did before, it will still install the already downloaded packages, just not bother downloading them again
[12:24] <Ubuntulator> I'm after some advice on what the best java packages are for the feisty system and firefox ?
[12:24] <dimebar> lieter: is the window 'negative' in colour?
[12:24] <slackern> lieter, all i know is that there is a bug that causes windows to go black/odd when the cards ram is filled
[12:24] <ikonia_> sand_storm whats this ??? http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/MD5SUMS you didn't look very far
[12:24] <Linuturk> CookedGryphon, the terminal window is open. In fact, I can't shrink it or anything, It is just hung up. no drive access or anything
[12:24] <Slart> lieter: beryl fades windows that are not responding.. it's a feature =)
[12:25] <lieter> Slart, i know, but why is opera not responding :P
[12:25] <foug> what's the command to search apt-get?
[12:25] <CookedGryphon> foug: apt-cache search blah
[12:25] <lieter> foug, apt-get searhc [name]
[12:25] <slackern> apt-cache search file
[12:25] <rambo3> foug, aptitude search
[12:25] <Slart> lieter: someone made an oopsie? =).. I have no idea..something broken..
[12:25] <kleftisx> ok brb
[12:25] <sand_storm> thanx, i dont know how i missed it  =/
[12:25] <lieter> slarts its a clean install of feisty and opera XD
[12:26] <dimebar> lieter: do you have flash installed?
[12:26] <mrjones> hello, im looking for a linux distribution for my old pc (700 mhz, 128 mb ram). the download page tells me i nedd 256 minimum :(.......what to do now?
[12:26] <ikonia_> sand_storm because you didn't look
[12:26] <aldin> anyone know irc channel for tango-project icons?
[12:26] <Slart> lieter: yes? clean install != everything works.. my firefox dies on some javascript.. it happens
[12:26] <lieter> dimebar, yes
[12:26] <CookedGryphon> Linuturk: in which case i'm sorry i dunno what's the matter
[12:26] <ikonia_> aldin no - its just one guy who creates them so there is no channel
[12:26] <rambo3> aldin, try ubuntuforums
[12:26] <Ubuntulator> !java
[12:26] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[12:26] <CookedGryphon> mrjones: there's an option on the download page, saying click here for desktops with less than 256 isn't there?
[12:26] <dimebar> lieter: did you notice if it hangs when navigating away from a flash movie page (like youtube/dailymotion etc)
[12:26] <lieter> slackern, i expect it to XD
[12:27] <aldin> ikonia, can u help me: checking for XML::Simple... configure: error: XML::Simple perl module is required for icon-naming-utils
[12:27] <lieter> dimebar, not really
[12:27] <ikonia_> aldin what are you trying to do ?
[12:27] <mrjones> ok thx...hope this will work
[12:27] <lieter> closing a tab from binsearch for instance does that
[12:27] <Pronco> !bluetooth
[12:27] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:27] <dimebar> lieter: ok - my opera does that :) wondering if i was alone
[12:27] <aldin> ikonia, to ./configure icon-naming-utils for tango icons
[12:27] <lieter> i really wanna get opera working, i love opera :)
[12:27] <ikonia_> aldin find support fo the icon-naming-utils package
[12:28] <crzyboon> lieter, so download the .deb and start off :)
[12:28] <ikonia_> aldin you need the simple perl xml module installed
[12:28] <aldin> ikonia, check this requirements i have all but xml-perl http://tango.freedesktop.org/Installation
[12:28] <rambo3> perl dom
[12:28] <lieter> crzyboon, i already got it ;)
[12:28] <aldin> ikonia, what is the name of package?
[12:28] <crzyboon> btw, since we're talkign about opera, anyone mind telling me how to get rid of the awful motif library ?
[12:28] <ikonia_> aldin the error says you need that tnough
[12:29] <myUserName> I am installing ubuntu and the dev team seem to of been stupid enough not to allow for a timeout in the configure-apt section of the installer... this is a real problem because i am not connecting to one of the servers properly and its frozen the installer is there a way to recover or will i have to start over with my network turned off?
[12:29] <crzyboon> I think its some qt library package
[12:29] <aldin> ikonia, i know, but, i dontk know which package to pull though...
[12:29] <ikonia_> myUserName there is timeouts - and don't call the dev team stupid - your the one using their products. Thats a Poor way to ask for and get help
[12:29] <ikonia_> aldin research sir
[12:30] <tommy_> bye all
[12:30] <rambo3> aldin,  apt-get build-dep tango-icon-theme
[12:30] <ikonia_> rambo3 he needs the perl xml modules (simple-perl-xml)
[12:30] <myUserName> ikonia_: It does not time out in at least this instance on this machine over this network if it does the timeout must be set for some huge amount of time and when it comes to programming this kiind of bug is.... well... stupid
[12:30] <bropenguin> hallo
[12:31] <ikonia_> myUserName it may have hun the machine
[12:31] <rambo3> ikonia, shouldent that be coverd in build dep ?
[12:31] <Ilgaz> PPC is unsupported platform on Ubuntu and why you don't announce it with big fonts right at download page? I lived a fan nightmare for 2 hours for nothing
[12:31] <ikonia_> hung
[12:31] <LjL> !away > LaNCeloT_RW-away    (LaNCeloT_RW-away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:31] <vega-> myUserName: perhaps you should fix it and send a patch to the developers
[12:31] <KnickLighter> Hello, is there anyone who can help me configuring BIND9 and my Mail server?
[12:31] <foug> how can i install opera using only the terminal? my firefox has broke
[12:31] <Bonez56> how do I replace the generic beryl images on the top and bottom of my cube, anyone know?
[12:31] <ikonia_> rambo3 no - as its not for tango theme - but for the naming package
[12:31] <rambo3> ah ok
[12:31] <bropenguin> anyone here
[12:31] <bropenguin> quit
[12:31] <aldin> rambo3, tnx... never thought that would work hehe i didi it for example gaim but though icons... tnx it seems that it will work
[12:31] <ubuntu_noob> rambo, are you still there ?
[12:32] <rambo3> ubuntu_noob, yes what
[12:32] <Stig> Hi, how do I make firestarter firewall startup automatically when I start Ubuntu? Or is firestarter always working in the background?
[12:32] <aimtrainer> hey! is it normal that there is no output for quite a time after this: http://pastebin.ca/449640 ?
[12:32] <ubuntu_noob> rambo, I've installed libstdc but it doesn't seem to fix  error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp"
[12:33] <aimtrainer> it says it may take a long time but it doesnt say it s along time without any< output - just wanna make sure
[12:33] <foug> how can i install opera using only the terminal? my firefox has broke
[12:33] <ubuntu_noob> rambo, anyother options ?
[12:33] <thwapme> ran apt-get install kubuntu-desktop last night before going to bed. ran great but it looks like the last 50 files or so failed. it suggested "maybe run apt-get update or --fix-missing?" so i'm wondering which one would work. update or --fix-missing?
[12:33] <Slart> Stig: I'm not sure firestarter is running the firewall.. doesn't firestarter just configure iptables.. and iptables is running all the time
[12:33] <rambo3> ubuntu_noob, what are you trying to do ? compile what ?
[12:33] <hoelk> that update is 1+gb?
[12:33] <hoelk> 8|
[12:33] <Stig> I'm not sure :O So it's not actually a firewall?!
[12:33] <magnetron> foug: if you only want to use the terminal, install elinks
[12:33] <ubuntu_noob> rambo, the wesnoth game :p
[12:34] <Madpilot> foug, assuming you've still got the rest of the desktop, install Epiphany or another browser, then grab Opera. Or use wget
[12:34] <Slart> !firestarter
[12:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:34] <vega-> Stig: all "firewalls" in linux are just frontends to iptables
[12:34] <pleb2> can i ask is there a installer package for flash... like the sun-java6-plugin. is there a flash player 9 one????
[12:34] <alleyoopster> foug: why only terminal, have you know desktop?
[12:34] <Stig> Ohh ok
[12:34] <ubd> what should i write in fstab to mount ext3?
[12:34] <Slart> Stig: yup.. firestarter is just a flashy front end for iptables =)
[12:34] <rambo3> ubuntu_noob, does it have readme file with all deps ?
[12:34] <foug> alleyoopster: my firefox wouldn't work, so i figured i'd just get opera. It's what i used anyways, just installed 7.04 so yea
[12:34] <Stig> Ok, thanks for the help.
[12:35] <rambo3> ubuntu_noob, why dont you just install from apt ?
[12:35] <sldkfj> how do I tweak the width of the splash screen?
[12:35] <rambo3> !info wesnoth
[12:35] <ubotu> wesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1937 kB, installed size 4396 kB
[12:36] <Stig> Can I install Beryl on Feisty through the Synaptic package manager? or is there a better way? Last time I tried installing it through the terminal following a guide it completely messed up... :(
[12:36] <ubuntu_noob> rambo3, it's not the latest version and since I am a noob I wanted to memorize and pratice all the commands
[12:36] <alleyoopster> foug: can you use another brower to get opera, is epiphany not installed?
[12:36] <foug> alleyoopster: no idea, firefox started working again though
[12:36] <ubuntu_noob> rambo3, it's easier to memorize commands while interacting with it :p
[12:36] <rambo3> ubuntu_noob, try apt-get build-dep wesnoth
[12:36] <alleyoopster> foug : in that case https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser?highlight=%28opera%29
[12:36] <Slart> Hello, for some reason my external dvd drive is automounted in /media/floppy0, this isn't a very big problem but I'd like to know how I can change it to.. say /media/dvd instead. Anyone have any hints?
[12:37] <phoenix_G> ubuntu does support atheros chipset or not?
[12:37] <ubuntu_noob> rambo3, alright thanks
[12:37] <Laizerox> err
[12:37] <Laizerox> ...
[12:37] <mneptok> phoenix_G: which iteration?
[12:37] <void^> phoenix_G: it does.
[12:37] <Laizerox> i think my ubuntu install is corrupted
[12:37] <aldin> rambo3, ikonia tnx it workd with build-dep ( i should remember this before) it pulled  a "lot" of xml packages on of them is 'libxml-libxml-perl'
[12:37] <ubd> what should i write in fstab to mount ext3?  hda6 is mounted /home can i mount hdc1 to /home/hdc ?
[12:37] <Laizerox> after loading partition it stops
[12:38] <gustavo> /mnt/hdc1
[12:38] <rambo3> aldin, dorbo
[12:38] <Laizerox> partition manager or what it called
[12:38] <rambo3> err br
[12:38] <sldkfj> <-----a newb here;   How do I tweak the width of the splash screen?
[12:38] <tarelerulz_> I am trying to ssh into my other linux computer ,but it says connection refused ?
[12:38] <phoenix_G> and why kubuntu does not supports atheros ? i do not think that there is a big difference between kubuntu - ubuntu ?
[12:39] <Syke> hmm, compiling xen-3.0.4_1-src 'make world' crashes in kernel compilation,
[12:39] <gnomefreak> phoenix_G: that package is not in repos
[12:39] <NearTotalN00b> Hello!
[12:39] <Syke> http://paste.debian.net/26066
[12:39] <M_Fatih> my apt broken :(
[12:40] <phoenix_G> i will download ubuntu and hope ..........
[12:40] <ubd> what should i write in fstab to mount ext3?  hda6 is mounted /home can i mount hdc1 to /home/hdc ?
[12:40] <phoenix_G> thanks
[12:40] <rambo3> i think that kubuntus make my desktop flashy pacjage takes away the space for restricted modules
[12:40] <Slart> ubd: you should be able to
[12:40] <spikeb> ubd, sure
[12:40] <TheoMurpse> isn't there supposed to be some new kind of network manager in feisty? because i'm not seeing it...
[12:40] <Slart> ubd: and mounting ext3 is just like mounting ext2... just switch ext2 for ext3 in the line in fstab
[12:40] <NearTotalN00b> I have some problems having upgraded to 7.04.  Is this the place for me to ask about them?
[12:40] <magnetron> TheoMurpse: upper right corner of screen, notification area
[12:41] <gnomefreak> TheoMurpse: for ubuntu kubuntu or xubuntu or edubuntu?
[12:41] <magnetron> NearTotalN00b: go on, ask
[12:41] <ubd> slart   /dev/hda6       /home/160g           ext3    defaults        0       ?
[12:41] <FP> net
[12:41] <pleb2> can i ask is there a installer package for flash... like the sun-java6-plugin. is there a flash player 9 one????
[12:42] <ubd> what should be the last number?
[12:42] <NearTotalN00b> I have (had?) Xubuntu 6.10.  I upgraded to 7.04 yesterday, but X crashes.
[12:42] <rambo3> !restricted | pleb2
[12:42] <ubotu> pleb2: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:42] <MarkCh> hi, how do i change my default preferred shell yakuake uses?
[12:42] <Laizerox> what is ther desktop version?
[12:42] <pleb2> rambo3 ta
[12:42] <TheoMurpse> gnomefreak magnetron: ubuntu...in my UR corner I have "manual network config" sound a clock and logoff
[12:42] <gnomefreak> NearTotalN00b: let me guess nvidia card?
[12:42] <Laizerox> !helpme
[12:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:42] <tarelerulz_> is ssh turn on by default on Kubuntu or Ubuntu ?
[12:42] <NearTotalN00b> I've installed Gnome as a temporary alternative.
[12:42] <Slart> ubd: looks right.. that last ?... check man fstab for what it means.. something about autochecking.. but I'm not sure
[12:43] <gnomefreak> TheoMurpse: you dont see 2 computers looking icon?
[12:43] <Laizerox> ...
[12:43] <NearTotalN00b> gnomefreak, no, a SiS 6326 (or something like that).
[12:43] <Syke> ... fond a hint: -fno-stack-protector, from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=303541, I'll long-shoot with this one.
[12:43] <Laizerox> What is the DESKTOP version
[12:43] <magnetron> TheoMurpse: that network thing is the network manager
[12:43] <TheoMurpse> gnomefreak: I see in the "tray" two computers labeled "manual network configuration"
[12:43] <gnomefreak> NearTotalN00b: apt-cache policy network-manager (what version is installed
[12:43] <Slart> Laizerox: eh.. it's the normal version..the "not server" version
[12:43] <linoleum> well I still can't use my 8800 gtx nividia
[12:43] <linoleum> even with the nvidia-glx-new ...
[12:44] <Laizerox> Ty :)
[12:44] <TheoMurpse> gnomefreak: all I can do is select "enable networking" or deselect it...there are no properties to modify, no wireless routers to connect to, etc.
[12:44] <magnetron> Laizerox: "Desktop" is the most common version of Ubuntu, with all the software for everyday use
[12:44] <tarelerulz_> Do any one know why I get ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused
[12:44] <Bhaskar1> I have Ubuntu 6.06LTs now i have to migrate Kbuntu, i have CD of kbuntu 6.10 now i want to upgrade 6.06 ubuntu without loss of existing data , how can i ?
[12:44] <KnickLighter> tarelerulz_; sudo apt-get install ssh
[12:44] <gnomefreak> TheoMurpse: right
[12:44] <Slart> linoleum: I thought the newest driver version supported 8800 gtx.. was I wrong? have you tried installing the driver from the nvidia site?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> TheoMurpse: thats normal
[12:44] <tokyo25> where can i find all the programs i have on my computer? and where can i find my downloads. from firefox
[12:45] <tarelerulz_> I  have ssh in the prosess list
[12:45] <tarelerulz_> It says it is sleeping ?
[12:45] <Slart> tokyo25: I think firefox downloads end up in /home/username
[12:45] <Madpilot> tokyo25, downloads from Firefox should go right to the Desktop
[12:45] <slackern> tarelerulz_: you have sshd running too?
[12:45] <[Nige] > anyone know how to get vista and samba talking? This is driving me nuts! Vista cant seem my samba shares
[12:45] <TheoMurpse> gnomefreak So how do I get wireless to work? How do I tell it what wireless network to join? I thought there was supposed to be something new in this to let me select networks.
[12:46] <tokyo25> ok. i thoght they were just shortcuts
[12:46] <tokyo25> thnks
[12:46] <tarelerulz_> I think I have ssh running It has it gnome system monitor .
[12:46] <linoleum> Slart: yes the nvidia-glx-new is supposed to works for the 8800 gtx ... but I changed from vesa to nvidia, still nothing
[12:46] <Slart> tokyo25: programs are a bit trickier.. they are kind of everywhere... /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin /opt and probably 50 more places
[12:46] <gnomefreak> TheoMurpse: in the system menu you should see networking
[12:46] <kalila> what is wrong with edgy eft repositories?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> maybe in admin
[12:46] <kalila> they are timing out for me
[12:46] <slackern> tarelerulz_: 'sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start' otherwise to start it.
[12:46] <linoleum> Slart: I dont really want to install from the binaries from the nvidia website...
[12:46] <magnetron> !slow > kalila
[12:46] <LjL> they're probably still suffering from the release load, kalila
[12:46] <syock> I installed Feisty since its beta days. Does update make it the same as it the same as the current released version?
[12:46] <MarkCh> what's the file in my home dir that sets what my preferred shell is?
[12:46] <magnetron> !final > syock
[12:47] <Slart> linoleum: what's the error message from the x startup? /var/log/xorg.log or something like that
[12:47] <defrysk> syock, yes
[12:47] <TheoMurpse> gnomefreak: the only thing I see is what has been there since at least 6.06 when I first tried Ubuntu. My wireless connection is there. I go to it and type in the ssid for a known network nearby which is open, and it doesn't connect.
[12:47] <parking-> how to make my HD to read/write so i can copy all files?
[12:47] <linoleum> Slart: it tries to load the wfb module, but then say it doesn't exist.
[12:47] <slackern> parking-: you want to enabled write support for NTFS?
[12:47] <syock> I wonder if the bot's running
[12:47] <syock> !final
[12:47] <ubotu> If you are running a Herd/Beta version of Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) and have been keeping it up to date, you are already running the final release version of Feisty. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console. If you last updated few days ago, you are on the final version.
[12:47] <gnomefreak> TheoMurpse: than im not sure my wireless card is usable out of box
[12:47] <parking-> slackern: its ext3 too
[12:47] <parking-> :)
[12:47] <Slart> linoleum: wfb? what's that?
[12:48] <magnetron> MarkCh: use menu System>Administration>Users to change preferred shell
[12:48] <linoleum> Slart: I have no idea :)
[12:48] <sldkfj> Does anyone know what channel to enter to find out  how I would tweak the width of Usplash ?
[12:48] <TheoMurpse> gnomefreak: My wireless has been usable on the past 3 liveCDs, but when I actually install to the HDD it never works, and no one has ever been able to help me figure out why, despite the fact that my wireless card has an OSS driver, so it's not a proprietary problem. The exact same source code works excellent with other distros.
[12:48] <slackern> parking-: i would say that use chown to change the owner of the folders where you need write/read access
[12:49] <peter77> When I wobble the windows I can see the frame refresh flicker, but on my dads machine it's perfect
[12:49] <peter77> my laptop has an intel chipset and my dads pc has an nvidia chipset
[12:49] <Slart> sldkfj: I think this would be the right one.. keep asking.. you'll get lucky sooner or later
[12:49] <foug> how do i change it so when you're op'd in xchat your icon isn't a sheriff badge?
[12:50] <magnetron> peter77: that nvidia card is faster
[12:50] <Slart> linoleum: can  you paste your xorg.conf in pastebin?
[12:50] <sldkfj> Slart, ok, thanks
[12:50] <parking-> slackern: how..... didn't try that yet
[12:50] <PirateHead> How do you remove a symlink without deleting the file that it links to?
[12:50] <slackern> parking-: and for ntfs read/write support you need 'ntfs-3g' package and 'ntfs-config' to have a little gui
[12:50] <linoleum> Slart: ok I have found a solution
[12:51] <gnomefreak> foug: if not in settings than you would have to figure out what part of the debian dir. when building to configure it during build (unless someone knows of a hack or a script)
[12:51] <linoleum> Slart: it's a bug with the package. the module wtf is missing, so I have to take it from the run, then copy it where it should be installed by the nvigida-glx-new package
[12:51] <Erebus> Um, stupid question - i downloaded the ISO from the link on ubuntu.com, which is a Live CD - I thought it also doubled as an installer, is this not the case?
[12:51] <Slart> linoleum: mm, found some pages about it.. you're not the only one with that problem.. =)
[12:51] <foug> gnomefreak: rgr
[12:51] <Slart> Erebus: it's supposed to be both... installer and live cd
[12:51] <linoleum> Slart: and this problem is only for 8800
[12:51] <gnomefreak> rgr?
[12:51] <slackern> parking-: to use chown on a folder  you could for example use 'chown -R parking /myfolder' to make parking the owner of the files/folders -R is recursive
[12:51] <foug> gnomefreak: roger
[12:51] <magnetron> Erebus: it IS an installer, click "Install" icon on desktop when running it
[12:51] <valdi> anyone willing to help me with this: "x server no screen" error when trying to install Feisty with ati radeon x1400.. what to do?
[12:52] <Erebus> Thanks!
[12:52] <Slart> linoleum: yes.. serves you right for buying top of the line graphics cards just to make us all green with envy ;)
[12:52] <jokoon> Hello :) I'd like to replace occurrences of text in a m3u file, for example i:\music\ with /dev/hdb2/music ... what command to use and can I create a script ? like a .BAT but for linux, is it a bash file ?
[12:52] <slackern> parking-:  chown -R parking:parking will set user:group to it also
[12:52] <soho> valdi; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=b7232d6d7dae3620c90ae3dce78c4c63&goto=newpost&t=414841
[12:52] <linoleum> Slart: hehe , even the drivers on windows are not yet stable :p
[12:52] <slackern> parking-: i would recommend you do a 'man chown' and read a little about it first though
[12:52] <gnomefreak> foug: ty
[12:53] <PirateHead> jokoon: use a sh "shell script" file
[12:53] <jokoon> thanks
[12:53] <PirateHead> jokoon: start the script with the line '#/bin/sh', without the single quotes, and then put the exact commands that you want to run after that. Works just like a BAT, pretty much.
[12:54] <DVS01> how do i disable native command queuing for my hard drive?
[12:54] <peter77> I've noticed that I get what looks like a frame refresh ficker while wobbling windows, does anyone else experience this?
[12:54] <PirateHead> How can I remove a symlink without deleting the file that it links to?
[12:54] <jokoon> thanks a lot PirateHead :)
 how do i disable native command queuing for my hard drive? # what does that mean?
 How can I remove a symlink without deleting the file that it links to? # do it
[12:54] <PirateHead> kbrooks: if I use rm, it will delete the file, won't it?
[12:54] <kbrooks> PirateHead, no.
[12:55] <mneptok> brap
[12:55] <kbrooks> PirateHead, a symlink is a file.
[12:55] <Tipolosko> PirateHead: simply remove with rm or whatever you want: your real file will not be touched
[12:55] <slackern> It will just delete the symlink, not the destination
[12:55] <aldin> rambo3, i sent u private message do u see it?
[12:55] <DVS01> kbrooks: its a setting involved with hard drive i/o
[12:55] <kbrooks> PirateHead, with the actual file path in it
[12:55] <peter77> I've noticed that I get what looks like a frame refresh ficker while wobbling windows, does anyone else experience this?
[12:55] <kbrooks> DVS01, oh.
[12:55] <slackern> if you are unsecure just make a backup of the file otherwise before trying
[12:55] <DVS01> ah.. someone informed me
[12:55] <DVS01> must write 1 to file /sys/block/sdX/device/queue_depth
[12:55] <DVS01> depending on device name
[12:56] <PirateHead> nautilus gives me the error "Not on the same filesystem" when I try to delete my symlink. The symlink *is* on the same filesystem, wheras the target is not. That's why I'm worried.
[12:56] <gnomefreak> !bugs > NearTotalN00b
[12:56] <kbrooks> PirateHead, there are symlink rules in GNU/Linux
[12:57] <usr_rob> does anyone got a link to a review of the 7.04 release ?
[12:58] <kbrooks> PirateHead, just open up a shell, and go to the directory where the symbolic link is
[12:58] <slackern> usr_rob: it's on yesterdays page on slashdot.org
[12:58] <peter77> I've noticed that I get what looks like a frame refresh ficker while wobbling windows, does anyone else experience this?
[12:58] <alleyoopster> usr_rob: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[12:58] <usr_rob> slackern, nice, thx
[12:58] <PirateHead> kbrooks: I renamed the destination file, then double clicked on the symlink in nautilus, and it said "This link is broken. Want to move it to the trash?" and i said, "Yeah!"
[12:58] <tarelerulz_> I can't seem to kill ssh-agent nor can I find it is init.d
[12:58] <CookedGryphon> peter77: compiz or beryl?
[12:58] <usr_rob> alleyoopster, yes, i have read the distrowatch, thx anyway :)
[12:59] <PirateHead> kbrooks: It's an unintuitive way to get the job done, unfortunately.
[12:59] <kbrooks> PirateHead, yes, it is broken now
[12:59] <forza-juve> hi all :)
[12:59] <Leoq2> Hi all, I have a question, when booting 7.04 i stops when choosing normal boot option, but using recovery an "startx" it works perfectly fine. Why?
[12:59] <Rprp>   ChanServ GameServ Global MemoServ NickServ OperServ roconda Rprp WesleySLD
[12:59] <NearTotalN00b> I have another problem...
[12:59] <kbrooks> PirateHead, symlinks are (or work just like, if you want) like windows shortcuts
[12:59] <jon855> what version of xorg does 7.04 has?
[12:59] <apokryphos> pfft :)
[12:59] <Huffalump> I need a bit of handholding/pointing in the right direction.  My upgrade to Fiesty failed and my first/main error at the moment is "failed to load module wfb"  It had another couple lines about I/O errors on the graphics card, so I assume I need to mess with the nvidia stuff.  Help?
[01:00] <NearTotalN00b> My mouse doesn't work with the newest kernel (7.04 upgrade).  It works with an older one, though.
[01:00] <CookedGryphon> Leoq2: any messages? i think you can skip into verbose mode by pressing alt+f2 on startup, that might give you more info
[01:00] <Madpilot> jon855, 7.something
[01:00] <kbrooks> PirateHead:
[01:00] <jon855> thanks mad
[01:00] <kbrooks> PirateHead, hang on please ...
[01:00] <jon855> Madpilot:
[01:00] <Rprp>   ChanServ GameServ Global MemoServ NickServ OperServ roconda Rprp WesleySLD
[01:00] <jon855> thanks
[01:00] <Almindor> hey guys, I still get a strange problem with DHCP on fiesty :( (been having this whole beta)
[01:00] <sorcerer> hey iam anew to linux and i downloaded the version for .. linux .. iam running ubuntu can anyone tell me how to install it says pak010.pk4 what kinda file is this
[01:00] <Almindor> randomly (about 1/3 of times) I get no IP assigned on boot
[01:00] <TheoMurpse> ui'm trying to issue commands to iwconfig and i don't have permissions...how do i get them?
[01:01] <Almindor> resetting the interface always helps
[01:01] <sorcerer> sorry i mean .. downloaded quak4 for linux ..
[01:01] <PirateHead> kbrooks: but Nautilus doesn't treat them the same way that Windows Explorer does. It treats them, for all intents and purposes, like the original. For example, if I have a link to an executable in Windows, deleting it says "Deleting the shortcut will not uninstall the program", etc. Here, deleting the shortcut just tries to move the destination file to the trash, and in my case caused an...
[01:01] <Leoq2> yes i get a messege, is there a log file to extract those from? or do I have to copy from screen by pencil?
[01:01] <PirateHead> ...error because the destination file was on a different filesystem.
[01:01] <Almindor> I got 2 NICs, one is net (DHCP) one is static (LOCAL)
[01:01] <Almindor> anyone got any idea why it sometimes doesn't "catch" the ip on the DHCP one?
[01:01] <CookedGryphon> sorcerer: you probably have to copy them into the quake folder, is there not a readme which tells you where to put them?
[01:01] <protocol1> after I completely removed wine with synaptic....is there a way to rid its last config too?
[01:01] <sadleder> TheoMurpse: use sudo iwconfig
[01:01] <|Z_E_R_O|> re
[01:02] <kbrooks> PirateHead, well, that's unintutive, and "non-unixy" so to speak
[01:02] <NearTotalN00b> Anyone know about a 3-button, PS/2 mouse (real IBM one from an old RS/6000) not working with the latest kernel in 7.04?
[01:02] <TheoMurpse> sadleder it asks for password, and mine isn't working
[01:02] <TheoMurpse> sadleder nvm it worked
[01:02] <Tipolosko> protocol1: you must "purge" the package; it'll clean it. I don't work if synaptics has a button for it..
[01:03] <sorcerer> CookedGryphon: mate .. umm this the file that was unrared and iam left with the file pal10.pk4 and when double click on that roller opens up with more files inside .. isnt it a game file .. i know its linux but how do i nstall it ?
[01:03] <sadleder> TheoMurpse: you should check that you are in group admin
[01:03] <PirateHead> Yeah, but intuitiveness gets complicated with relation to Windows, where people come over and expect things to work like Windows does. Symlinks are one of the things I haven't read up on yet, so I don't really understand the "unixy" way to get them to work.
[01:03] <beerman1> Hi, just wondering if anyone can help me with rdesktop running on fiesty?
[01:03] <sadleder> protocol1: just use dpkg -P wine
[01:03] <TheoMurpse> sadleder I would be in whatever group the defaults puts me in when I do a fresh install.
[01:03] <protocol1> Tipolosko, yeah I chose to to completely remove it
[01:03] <Tipolosko> thanks sadleder :D
[01:03] <PirateHead> When I upgraded to Feisty, my sound stopped working, and now whenever an application tries to put out sound (example: Rhythmbox, pressing "play") it crashes. Any ideas?
[01:03] <kbrooks> PirateHead, gnome is not windows. just to be clear: gnome is more "simpler" than windows
[01:03] <Engen> PsySine: asd
[01:03] <forza-juve> hi linux lover, is it possible to make my current ubuntu desktop version become webserver ?
[01:03] <protocol1> sadleder, I will tyr that too
[01:04] <sadleder> TheoMurpse: check with command "groups"
[01:04] <kbrooks> PirateHead, i suggest you reinstall feisty on another computer
[01:04] <protocol1> try*
[01:04] <CookedGryphon> sorcerer: that is just the game data file, you need to get a quake4 package with the actual program in seperately, copyright issues or whatever
[01:04] <Slart> forza-juve: of course.. just install apache
[01:04] <k31th> does latest ubuntu use thunderbird2
[01:04] <TheoMurpse> sadleder Yeah, nevermind. I got it now.
[01:04] <PirateHead> kbrooks: that's a crappy suggestion. This is my only computer.
[01:04] <NearTotalN00b> Thanks for your help.  Bye!
[01:04] <forza-juve> slart : i heard from friend of mine told me to download LAMP
[01:04] <PirateHead> kbrooks: Edgy sound worked just fine.
[01:04] <sorcerer> CookedGryphon:  how do i do that i mean i dont understand what did i just download then and what do i need to get ?
[01:04] <sldkfj> How I would tweak the Usplash resolution so the logo doesn't look like a football (American)?
[01:04] <Slart> !lamp | forza-juve
[01:04] <ubotu> forza-juve: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:05] <Slart> forza-juve: lamp includes the webserver.. so that would work too, yes
[01:05] <sadleder> TheoMurpse: what did you get?
[01:05] <TheoMurpse> sadleder I got sudo working
[01:05] <forza-juve> slart : thx man :)
[01:05] <CookedGryphon> sorcerer: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/11/07/1547208
[01:05] <sadleder> TheoMurpse: and how?
[01:05] <Slart> forza-juve: you're welcome
[01:05] <PirateHead> sldkfj: Hah. I would also like to figure out how to tweak the usplash resolution. :-)
[01:05] <ROnewbie> I have Feisty Beta on a partition and Edgy on another. I am now in Feisty, and I want to uninstall Edgy from here. How can I do it?
[01:05] <TheoMurpse> sadleder by typing not hitting the wrong key in the password
[01:06] <TheoMurpse> I give up though. The past three releases wireless has always worked on the livecd, and it never works once installed to the hdd
[01:06] <PirateHead> ROnewbie: you can use GParted to delete the parttion that Edgy is on.
[01:06] <mc44> ROnewbie: well, you can just format the partition if you have no data you want on it
[01:06] <TheoMurpse> which boggles my mind, that something would work on teh livecd and then immediately not work once it's installed
[01:07] <stian> I just upgraded from 6.10 to 7.04 using the update manager, but when I log in, the gnome panels are gone, I can't use alt f2 to start anything... all i have are the desktop icons... what gives?
[01:07] <Yeti_69> !fr
[01:07] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:07] <CookedGryphon> sldkfj: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, add vga=791 to the default options, one min i'll get the exact wording of the line
[01:07] <ROnewbie> mc44: sounds better than deleting the partition, how can I do it ?
[01:07] <PirateHead> RONewbie: if you want to expand the Feisty partition to fill the space, however, you will probably have to use GParted off of a LiveCD for that operation, since you can't expand a mounted filesystme,.
[01:07] <sldkfj> CookedGryphon, thanks
[01:07] <Huffalump> PirateHead, something is wrong because that's not how Nautilus works.  If you delete a symlink/shortcut, then it does not delete the original/source file.... but merely the link.
[01:07] <PirateHead> TheoMurpse: it's true that it's unintuitive, but there is a really good reason for it. :-)
[01:07] <TMT[fi] > Hello every1
[01:07] <mc44> ROnewbie: Gparted will let you just format the partition too
[01:07] <stian> also... i have no fiucking window borders!
[01:07] <ROnewbie> PirateHead: I want that partition to remain an empty FAT32 so that I can access it from both feisty and XP (yeah, I'm running a dual boot ... no linux printer drivers)
[01:08] <Huffalump> My upgrade to Fiesty failed and my first/main error at the moment is "failed to load module wfb"  It had another couple lines about I/O errors on the graphics card, so I assume I need to mess with the nvidia stuff.  Help?
[01:08] <sadleder> TheoMurpse ah, ok, the trivial way ;-)
[01:08] <PirateHead> Huffalump: perhaps it was a nautilus bug then? Or perhaps it wasn't truly a symlink, but some other kind of link that I don't know about?
[01:08] <mc44> !ohmy | stian
[01:08] <ubotu> stian: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:08] <LaszloKv> Would anyone here be able to help me with sharing a directory with samba?
[01:08] <ROnewbie> mc44: is gparted avaialble in the repositories, or do i have to use the live cd
[01:08] <ROnewbie> ?
[01:08] <PirateHead> ROnewbie: That's easy to to with GParted. Just reformat the Edgy partition as fat32, and it'll do all the work.
[01:08] <kanpachi> hello, i can't extract a bz2 file :( how can i do it?
[01:08] <mc44> ROnewbie: no its in the repos, just sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:08] <Slart> Huffalump: known bug.. they forgot to include the file in the package.. do a google search for wfb nvidia .. there are solutions
[01:08] <Huffalump> PirateHead, how about a little test?  Make a text file, then a link, and delete the link.
[01:09] <stian> anybody have ANY ideas?
[01:09] <TheoMurpse> PirateHead: The problem is, no one has ever been able to walk me through getting wireless working, and I've never been able to either (despite getting the same wireless running in Debian and Gentoo). So basically, I've been dual booting, with Ubuntu only being used when there's a new version out, hoping and praying that finally wireless works on my computer. It never does, despite the fact that there's no technical explanation -- sin
[01:09] <protocol1> how do I go about removing a directory and everything in it?
[01:09] <Huffalump> Slart - That's ridiculous.   I have to apt-get nivida-glx or nvidia-glx-new ?
[01:09] <protocol1> what command would I use
[01:09] <TMT[fi] > I have weird problem. I'm using Edgy and timezone reseting after i change it to correct one. How can i change it?
[01:09] <Bakey> rm -r <directory name> protocol1
[01:09] <TMT[fi] > that comp doesn't have internet connection atm.
[01:10] <protocol1> I tried sudo rmdir <dir>
[01:10] <protocol1> ok
[01:10] <Bakey> from the console
[01:10] <PirateHead> kanpachi: The Gnome Archive Manager ought to extract it fine.
[01:10] <ROnewbie> mc44, PirateHead: thankx both
[01:10] <CookedGryphon> sldkfj: okay there's a line that's something like
[01:10] <CookedGryphon> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic ro quiet splash vga=791
[01:10] <CookedGryphon> the vga=791 sets it to 1024x768 resolution, if you also edit the line: # defoptions=quiet splash to:
[01:10] <CookedGryphon> defoptions=quiet splash vga=791
[01:10] <CookedGryphon> it will keep working thru kernel upgrades etc.
[01:10] <PirateHead> TheoMurpse: That sucks. It took a lot of fiddling to get my wireless working as well.
[01:10] <sldkfj> CookedGryphon, GREAT!!  thanks
[01:10] <PirateHead> Huffalump: lemme test it now.
[01:10] <Bakey> -r is recursive
[01:10] <bimberi> protocol1: rmdir will only work on an empty directory
[01:10] <TMT[fi] > protocol1: rm -rfv dir
[01:10] <Aarin> can anyone help me? my feisty instalation says that he hasn't detected the disk controller to use. and asks me which one should he use. I've got an Seagate ST380011A and a Seagate ST380013A
[01:10] <PirateHead> Huffalump: the test worked like you said it ought to: it did not delete the original.
[01:10] <Slart> Huffalump: I don't have this problem myself.. but there was someone here asking about it .. 30 mins ago.. I just did a quick google search and one of the first hits was a forum post about it.. with some links to solutions.. but yes.. it does sound ridiculous
[01:11] <jokoon> What command can I use to replace text in a file ?
[01:11] <TheoMurpse> PirateHead: you're right, it does suck. I've probably put in 50+ hours on the wireless issue. It's literally the only reaosn I'm still using XP on my laptop. I could go back to Gentoo and it would all be fine, but I'm tired of compiling everything on a laptop.
[01:11] <Huffalump> PirateHead: good!  Now, I can't think of what went wrong in your original error... but you should be able to use Nautilus with confidence that it works intuitively.
[01:11] <Huffalump> TheoMurpse - Usually, I find the beginning to be a matter of determining how compatible your wifi card is.  If you're a centrino, then it's a slam dunk, for example.
[01:11] <stefg> Aarin: That's the disks, not the controller. can you get fesity to boot by any means?
[01:12] <[Ex0r] > checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:12] <Huffalump> Slart - Somehow I didnt get results from the forum, but I will try again.  Thanks for the handholding.
[01:12] <[Ex0r] > anyone know what that error means ?
[01:12] <mc44> TheoMurpse: have you tried removing Network Manager on feisty?
[01:12] <[Ex0r] > I used apt-get install gcc to install gcc
[01:12] <slackern> jokoon: i think 'sed' can do that for you, but im not familiar with how to use it
[01:12] <Bakey> exor do sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:12] <bimberi> [Ex0r] : install build-essential
[01:12] <TheoMurpse> Huffalump I've used the rt2x00 driver for Gentoo for two years. The same driver is loaded with Knoppix, and it works with Debian. However, when I do Ubuntu, it works only on the livecd.
[01:13] <stefg> !wifi | TheoMurpse
[01:13] <ubotu> TheoMurpse: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:13] <TheoMurpse> mc44: I think I removed it on edgy and it didn't help.
[01:13] <[Ex0r] > hmm, thanks alot for that, it seems to have fixed the problem
[01:13] <mc44> TheoMurpse: it wasnt installed by default on edgy
[01:13] <TheoMurpse> I then couldn't get the ra2500config util to run for managing my wireless nets
[01:13] <snowblink> grrr launchpad dead
[01:13] <[Ex0r] > oh btw, did they get rid of the 'install lamp server' option on ubuntu server ?
[01:14] <TheoMurpse> mc44: yeah, someone told me to install it for wpa...i did, and nothing helped, so i removed it
[01:14] <Bakey> yw Ex0r
[01:14] <Bakey> i dont' think so Ex0r
[01:14] <Ilgaz> Please put "unsupported" notice to PPC download page?
[01:14] <TMT[fi] > anyone? how can i stop timezone reseting in Edgy?
[01:14] <mc44> TheoMurpse: right, it might be worth trying as it can intefere with some wireless cards
[01:14] <Bakey> tmt is your cmos battery dead?
[01:14] <DVS01> is there another desktop applet package besides gdesklets? one that preferrably doesn't have problems with beryl?
[01:14] <TMT[fi] > No
[01:14] <Bakey> krellim DVS?
[01:14] <Angel-SL> hey
[01:15] <TMT[fi] > Happens only in ubuntu
[01:15] <Angel-SL> i'm getting a medium error when burning 7.04 server.
[01:15] <DVS01> Bakey: thanks, i'll try it
[01:15] <Huffalump> TheoMurpse - I'm not a super-ultra experienced ubuntu warrior, but if you're around later and your wifi doesn't work, I'll be happy to poke at a solution with you.
[01:15] <jokoon> AWESOME
[01:16] <predaeus> DVS01, probably superkaramba
[01:16] <rambo3> apt-cache search widgets
[01:16] <predaeus> DVS01, I think that is for kde though, but be problematic aswell
[01:16] <Angel-SL> i'm getting a medium error when burning 7.04 server.
[01:16] <TheoMurpse> Huffalump thanks. I'm goign to go to bed soon. It's 6am here, and I've got school&work in a few hours. I just started the feisty upgrade and wasn't going to leave my laptop on all night while i slept. I don't trust laptop batteries anymore ;)
[01:16] <DVS01> doh
[01:16] <DVS01> rambo3: good point, thanks
[01:16] <TheoMurpse> so Huffalump I'll look for you in the next 24 hours
[01:16] <[Ex0r] > hmm, anyone here know a solution similar to cpanel, plesk, and ensim, but nowhere near as expensive ?
[01:16] <Bakey> predaeus is right there, i think
[01:17] <lordhelmet> hey all i just upgraded from edgy to fesity, and my shutdown options are gone from the window manager menu (running gdm + kde)
[01:17] <lordhelmet> any ideas?
[01:17] <Bakey> webmin Ex0r?
[01:17] <[Ex0r] > I looked at webmin, but you have to pay for virtual min now
[01:17] <[Ex0r] > and it's the same price as ensim
[01:17] <LjL> There is a netsplit going on. Please keep your messages short, and address the person you're talking to.
[01:17] <Zues_62> can someone help me wif a thing in alsa
[01:17] <sldkfj> CookedGryphon, thanks again, gonna reboot
[01:17] <Zues_62> the volumes are defaulting whn i reboot my pc
[01:17] <Zues_62> what do i do
[01:17] <hoagie> does anyone else has a problem with feisty?
[01:17] <LjL> !netsplit
[01:17] <Zues_62> no hoa
[01:17] <Slart> whatever happened to pulseaudio.. I thought it was going to be the default in feisty?
[01:17] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[01:17] <Slart> hoagie: what problem?
[01:17] <hoagie> Slart: It doesn't boot
[01:18] <Slart> hoagie: nope.. no such problems here
[01:18] <muse> hy
[01:18] <rambo3> [Ex0r] , join #debian and type !webmin
[01:18] <hoagie> Slart: adter installation
[01:18] <[Ex0r] > rambo3- ? I know what webmin is.
[01:18] <lordhelmet> hey all i just upgraded from edgy to fesity, and my shutdown options are gone from the window manager menu (running gdm + kde)...any ideas?
[01:18] <hoagie> Slart: I think it's because of the kernel ?
[01:18] <CookedGryphon> wargh, gaim jsut crashed out on me
[01:18] <bullgard4> On what Web site can I search for channels in the  irc.ubuntu.com network?
[01:18] <bimberi> !channels
[01:18] <ubotu> A list of Freenode channels is available via http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - Ubuntu related channels can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:18] <Slart> hoagie: might be.. there is a new kernel in feisty.. any weird hardware? or just a regular pc?
[01:18] <zaggynl> Anyone knows what the differences are between feisty beta and latest?
[01:19] <bimberi> zaggynl: a number of version updates
[01:19] <sorcerer> CookedGryphon:  dude the file i have is 2.8 gigs ... i think thats the whole game
[01:19] <hoagie> Slart: No nothing weird, besides edgy and dapper worked perfectly on this pc
[01:19] <sorcerer> CookedGryphon: i need to dwonloaded the installer and then run the pakage ?
[01:19] <zaggynl> bimberi, so, nothing big?
[01:20] <|NewUser|> zaggynl, there is no difference if you keep updating ur beta.. :)
[01:20] <CookedGryphon> sorcerer: dude, its all the game data, so you still need the actual game code
[01:20] <atomiku> !nvidia
[01:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:20] <Huffalump> TheoMurpse - it's a date!  There's gotta be a way to get that wifi to work.  I've had past troubles but always managed to sort them out.
[01:20] <Angel-SL> i'm getting a medium error when burning 7.04 server.
[01:20] <Slart> hoagie: have you checked the bug reports? see if you're the only one?
[01:20] <Angel-SL> someone helppinggg?
[01:20] <lordhelmet> anybody? missing shutdown options?
[01:20] <rambo3> Angel-SL, what kind of an error is that
[01:20] <magnetron> hoagie; maybe you have a grub problem
[01:20] <Bakey> angel did you check your file when you downloaded?
[01:20] <|NewUser|> Angel-SL, did you check ur download ? with md5sum ?
[01:20] <linoleum> please, how can I create a symbolic link ?
[01:20] <zaggynl> |NewUser|, ah okay, I'll wait 'till the servers are a bit faster again then, I'm not getting any updates atm :)
[01:20] <bimberi> zaggynl: some nasty kernel bug fixes and network manager working much better to name a couple I know of.
[01:20] <linoleum> is it like sudo ln -s ?
[01:20] <hoagie> Slart: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/106063
[01:20] <Bakey> check the md5 hash?
[01:20] <magnetron> !grub > hoagie
[01:20] <rambo3> Angel-SL, did you check md5 ?
[01:20] <zaggynl> ah okay
[01:20] <TheoMurpse> mc44: Hey, waddayaknow, Ubuntu boots up in normal time now. I guess I just had to reboot a few times to get it to work. Unless it's the recently-uninstalled network manager that was causing it to hang what with the finding network connections and all.
[01:20] <NearTotalN00b> I think I have a dying hard drive.  Possibly.
[01:21] <Angel-SL> |NewUser|: erm
[01:21] <Bakey> i think so linoleum
[01:21] <Angel-SL> |NewUser|: UbuntuHash doesnt HAVE 7.04!!!
[01:21] <|NewUser|> zaggynl, US .. servers going fine at the moment :) i m downloading from there
[01:21] <sldkfj> CookedGryphon, uhh, that's not it.  It appears to be shifted over to the right and I get a part of the letter 't' and the last letter 'u' coming off from the left margin.
[01:21] <hoagie> magnetron:: Is there anything I can do?
[01:21] <T0uCH> no one got the torrent of the alternate cd/dvd download ?
[01:21] <rambo3> Angel-SL, shure it does
[01:21] <NearTotalN00b> What sounds do dying hard drives make?
[01:21] <Angel-SL> i checked!
[01:21] <mc44> TheoMurpse: it may well have been
[01:21] <lordhelmet> upgraded from edgy to fesity, and my shutdown options are gone from the window manager menu (running gdm + kde)...any ideas?
[01:21] <mc44> TheoMurpse: but... is your wireless working? :0
[01:22] <magnetron> !grub > hoagie
[01:22] <enry> how to install propietary codec to see video in internet? with Totem??
[01:22] <CookedGryphon> sldkfj: does your monitor support 1024x768? if not there's a load of other modes you can use i can only remember 791 tho cos its the only one i use
[01:22] <[Ex0r] > hmm, what are the openssl development files ?
[01:22] <|NewUser|> !codec | enry
[01:22] <ubotu> enry: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:22] <linoleum> Bakey: tkx mate
[01:22] <rambo3> Angel-SL, http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/MD5SUMS
[01:23] <sldkfj> CookedGryphon, not sure, I keep the desktop at 1650 x 1024
[01:23] <stian> just used update manager to go from 6.10 to 7.04... everything went fine... when i log in though, i have no window borders, gnome-panels doesnt appear(or work)... i cant use alt+f2 to start any programs.. and so forth.  Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[01:23] <sldkfj> CookedGryphon,  1650 x 1024 is recommend by the manufacturer
[01:23] <T0uCH> !alternate torrent
[01:23] <enry> my video player is xine based?
[01:23] <rambo3> T0uCH, you know you could use /msg ubotu
[01:23] <rgd> Help,I need to check weather Microsoft Fonts are being used in Firefox
[01:24] <|NewUser|> brunoUT, i dont think so. i tried US And IN Servers both works fine for me
[01:24] <enry> 7.04 default
[01:24] <TheoMurpse> mc44: my wireless doesn't work (driver is loaded, it just doesn't connect, and fails with dhclient as well), and it seems my ethernet does not work now either
[01:24] <Bakey> rgd: i don't think so
[01:24] <magnetron> T0uCH: don't flood the channel
[01:24] <somerandomname> !offtopic
[01:24] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:24] <mc44> TheoMurpse: haha oh well, a step backwards
[01:24] <TheoMurpse> has an IP, just won't do anything with it
[01:24] <brunoUT> hmmm....when trying to upgrade i get an error while 'fetching the files'
[01:24] <brunoUT> what is going on?
[01:24] <rambo3> TheoMurpse, thats router problem ?
[01:24] <tomek> fuck on
[01:24] <deepsa> guys stop bashing the repo's server it slow for about 1 day now
[01:24] <DVS01> once feisty came out, #ubuntu became the channel for feisty, correct?
[01:24] <tomek> sorry
[01:24] <LjL> !language | tomek
[01:24] <rambo3> TheoMurpse, what is the IP?
[01:24] <ubotu> tomek: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:24] <Bakey> brunoUT: busy servers?
[01:24] <|NewUser|> brunoUT, try to use another mirrors
[01:24] <TheoMurpse> rambo3 <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:25] <|NewUser|> !ohmy tomek
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohmy tomek - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <brunoUT> how do i use other mirrors?....im just going to the update manager and clicking update
[01:25] <stian> just used update manager to go from 6.10 to 7.04... everything went fine... when i log in though, i have no window borders, gnome-panels doesnt appear(or work)... i cant use alt+f2 to start any programs.. and so forth. Does anybody have any advice?
[01:25] <magnetron> !ohmy > tomek
[01:25] <rgd> Bakey,is there a wat to check this?
[01:25] <rambo3> TheoMurpse, then you are geting IP from router
[01:25] <zaggynl> !ohmy > zaggynl
[01:25] <rambo3> LAN IP
[01:25] <LjL> brunoUT: i'm using the swedish servers (se.archive.ubuntu.com), and they're working. just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all of the "archive.ubuntu.com" into "se.archive.ubuntu.com" (or if you already have a two-letters abbreviation, change it)
[01:25] <CookedGryphon> sldkfj: the available modes are
[01:25] <CookedGryphon>  Screen 640x480  800x600  1024x768  1280x1024  1600x1200
[01:25] <CookedGryphon> Colors  --------------------------- -------------------------------------------
[01:25] <CookedGryphon> 256  | 769    771     773      775       796
[01:25] <CookedGryphon> 32,768 | 784    787     790     793       797
[01:25] <CookedGryphon> 65,536 | 785    788     791     794       798
[01:25] <CookedGryphon> 16.8M | 786    789     792     795       799
[01:25] <brunoUT> this is the error i get.....Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/Release Unable to find expected entry  ude/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[01:26] <TheoMurpse> rambo3 ping <IP_ADDRESS> says "destination host unreachable" even though it is the router's ip
[01:26] <|NewUser|> brunoUT, try to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:26] <magnetron> !past | CookedGryphon
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <LjL> brunoUT: the GB mirrors are probably among the most loaded...
[01:26] <|NewUser|> LjL, sorry :)
[01:26] <rambo3> TheoMurpse, ralink ?
[01:26] <peekuu> ehm.. n00b question in between here... Should I download the AMD64 iso for an Intel Core 2 64bit cpu, cause i'm getting a kernel panic with the x86 version...
[01:26] <magnetron> !paste > CookedGryphon
[01:26] <TheoMurpse> rambo3 ralink is my wireless yes
[01:26] <brunoUT> ok....
[01:26] <SandMan> hey could anyone help me out here
[01:26] <ROnewbie> !update | ronewbie
[01:26] <mjr> peekuu, both should work for you
[01:26] <TheoMurpse> rambo3 but my wireless doesn't work at all...now my wired doesn't either
[01:26] <sldkfj> CookedGryphon,  thanks, that gives me something to consume my day :)
[01:26] <Bakey> rgd: i'm not sure, sorry!
[01:26] <TheoMurpse> rambo3 my wired has the <IP_ADDRESS> ip though
[01:26] <LjL> brunoUT: if it still fails after switching mirrors and doing an "apt-get update" (i'm still talking command line, i'm not familiar at all with the GUI, and i don't have it installed), pastebin the whole output
[01:26] <magnetron> peekuu: no, you should download the i386 ("pc") version
[01:27] <brunoUT> ok....
[01:27] <rambo3> TheoMurpse, ok i think there is solution . ping never botherd me since it worked without it . Open worked without ping and WEP worked with ping
[01:27] <rgd> Bakey,thx anyway
[01:27] <DjViper> how do I make ubuntu connect to a default wlan when I boot up?
[01:27] <|NewUser|> LjL, US servers works fine ..
[01:27] <peekuu> hmm, well i'm getting a kernel panic on startup/install from cd at the hardware detection...
[01:27] <Bakey> rgd: maybe there's some release notes on the mozilla website that would tell you
[01:28] <Angel-SL> ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOTHER corrupted download..
[01:28] <LjL> |NewUser|: so do the swedish ones. but i think the "main" servers - i.e. archive.ubuntu.com - actually redirect to the united kingdom ones, so those would probably be the most strained
[01:28] <rambo3> TheoMurpse,search ubuntuforums howto for ralink and ping. You have no wireless security ?
[01:28] <Bakey> angel-sl: this the burn errors :)
[01:28] <|NewUser|> LjL, umm right.
[01:28] <TheoMurpse> rambo3 I do (WPA), but my neighbors don't ;) hehe
[01:28] <Bakey> *thus
[01:28] <rgd> Bakey,thx
[01:28] <magnetron> Angel-SL: do you use bittorent?
[01:28] <brunoUT> LjL: i do not see which lines i should change to the swedish mirrors
[01:28] <Huffalump> Is there a way, at the line command, to tell apt-get to use a specific archive source (that's not in your list)?
[01:28] <brunoUT> can u help me?
[01:28] <orbin> anyone one with a broadcom wireless card?  has implementation in proved in feisty or am i going to have to do the whole ndiswrapper thing again?
[01:28] <rambo3> :P I use publicip as router and open
[01:28] <Angel-SL> magnetron: same error..
[01:29] <LjL> !pastebin | brunoUT, put the entire content here
[01:29] <ubotu> brunoUT, put the entire content here: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:29] <|NewUser|> !easysource > brunoUT
[01:29] <Bakey> heffalump: i htink you have to edit sources.list manually for that
[01:29] <Angel-SL> magnetron: first utorrent gave me that same error
[01:29] <Angel-SL> now firefox?!
[01:29] <Angel-SL> whats wrong with my indernet
[01:29] <magnetron> Angel-SL: what error?
[01:29] <Angel-SL> download corrupt
[01:29] <Bakey> angel-sl: your internets are broke :)
[01:29] <Angel-SL> both were.
[01:30] <Angel-SL> *gets impaitient*
[01:30] <Huffalump> Bakey: That's bad news, because I'm at a line command due to Fiesty not installing nvidia stuff correctly... and the us.archive keeps timing out, so I want to use another source (like se.archive... or someone fast)
[01:30] <rambo3> Huffalump, where do you live?
[01:30] <LjL> Huffalump, why can't you just change /etc/apt/soruces.list?
[01:30] <LjL> sources even
[01:30] <Bakey> heffalump: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:30] <magnetron> Angel-SL: bittorent has a lot of extra checks to prevent corrupt files
[01:31] <Huffalump> rambo3, I'm in RO
[01:31] <slackern> se.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[01:31] <florian_> hello
[01:31] <florian_> hallop
[01:31] <florian_> wqe
[01:31] <ryeth25> what's up?
[01:31] <LjL> Huffalump: then remount read write
[01:31] <florian_> ubuntu ist geil
[01:31] <brunoUT> LjL: here is my link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16538/
[01:31] <brunoUT> can u show me what to change?
[01:31] <LjL> !de | florian_
[01:31] <ubotu> florian_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:31] <rambo3> Huffalump, ok then se should be ok . just change ro to se
[01:31] <Huffalump> LjL, I don't understand how to edit text files in line command
[01:31] <ryeth25> how do i know who staffers are?
[01:31] <LjL> Huffalump: it's  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:31] <Angel-SL> magnetron: actually, it was a 'download ended early' eg, firefox download 356mb and said download complete
[01:31] <Bakey> heffalump: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:31] <LjL> ryeth25: /stats p
[01:31] <ATi7500> hi all
[01:31] <Bakey> works mostly like notepad from win
[01:31] <slackern> Huffalump: se.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[01:31] <LjL> Huffalump: or, possibly without the "sudo", if you're in recovery mode
[01:31] <ryeth25> that doesn't do anything when i do that
[01:31] <Bakey> alt o to save
[01:32] <Bakey> alt x to close
[01:32] <Huffalump> thanks Bakey and LjL editing now without sudo
[01:32] <Bakey> if I recall
[01:32] <magnetron> Angel-SL: don't use fx for large downloads
[01:32] <ryeth25> LjL:  what is that supposed to do?
[01:32] <Angel-SL> magnetron: wget?
[01:32] <ATi7500> how to create a script with these commands?
[01:32] <ATi7500> ifconfig ethX down
[01:32] <ATi7500> ifconfig ethX hw ether 11:22:33:44:55:66
[01:32] <ATi7500> ifconfig ethX up
[01:32] <Angel-SL> magnetron: anything other than bittorrent.
[01:32] <LjL> brunoUT: this line,  deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy ude , which is the only one using the GB mirrors, is wrong
[01:32] <Huffalump> Bakey / LjL - "WriteOut" is to save?
[01:33] <brunoUT> i never changed it....what does it need to be?
[01:33] <Bakey> heffalump: yes
[01:33] <Huffalump> ok
[01:33] <Bakey> alt-o i think...
[01:33] <Bakey> then alt-x closes
[01:33] <Huffalump> ctrl+o
[01:33] <Huffalump> got it, thanks folks
[01:33] <Bakey> ahh, my bad
[01:33] <slackern> it's control - x and control - o
[01:33] <nihil> hey - i've got question - how to add application to Applications -> Games menu ? i realized that i must create a .desktop file in usr/share/applications, but i don't know how i should describe 'Categories'
[01:34] <brunoUT> LjL: what should i change it to?
[01:34] <LjL> brunoUT: at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16539/ i've just removed that line
[01:34] <brunoUT> LjL: thanks
[01:34] <Bakey> nihil: it should get created when you install a game
[01:34] <LjL> brunoUT: to nothing, because it simply doesn't make any sense. but really, i would use source-o-matic to rebuild a good list
[01:34] <CookedGryphon> nihil: you could just use the menu editor, right click on the menu and say edit menus
[01:34] <k31th> does ubuntu latest ship with Mozilla Thunderbird 2?
[01:34] <Pici> nihil: Use the alacarte menu editor, I'm not sure if its installed by default though.
[01:34] <rambo3> !alacarte | nihil
[01:34] <magnetron> Angel-SL: try wget?
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alacarte - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <nihil> Barkey, but it's PRBOOM and it's not created
[01:34] <Bakey> nihil: if not, restart gnome by ctrl-alt-del
[01:34] <spikeb> k31th, no.
[01:34] <Bakey> nihil: ahh, ok
[01:34] <magnetron> nihil: right click the menu to edit it
[01:34] <LjL> brunoUT: especially given that you don't have universe or multiverse enabled. if that's intentional, ok, but most people have them enabled
[01:35] <k31th> hum is there a back port??
[01:35] <Bakey> nihil: +1 to what magnetron said
[01:35] <brunoUT> yeah i just enabled them
[01:35] <Huffalump> Of course, it helps if I spell Feisty... and not the party-like Fiesty... :))
[01:35] <bef_> all of my repositories seem messed up, none of my packages will download or install from Synaptic.. Feisty 15/4 daily.
[01:35] <brunoUT> im very new i did not know how to enable them
[01:35] <Amaranth> alacarte has been installed by default since dapper
[01:35] <LjL> brunoUT: oh - also, i missed soemthing. you have the Feisty CD in your sources, but the rest of the list is all Edgy?!
[01:35] <rashid> hello ppl
[01:35] <LjL> brunoUT: what distribution are you actually using?
[01:35] <brunoUT> LjL: dude i dont know how that happened
[01:35] <tom__> my fiesty log off menu missing shutdown & restart, anyone have this?
[01:36] <LjL> brunoUT: well, which distribution do you *want* to use?
[01:36] <brunoUT> LjL: i am using 6.10
[01:36] <brunoUT> i want to upgrade to 7.04
[01:36] <nihil> Bakley - the application is added in 'Others' but i have done this: http://wklej.org/id/3656147d0c
[01:36] <smo> hi i have a problem with ubiquity it  ask for new user/pass during install then after reboot the user is not created, still need to use the original live cd user any idears???
[01:36] <smo> eadgy
[01:36] <smo> edgy
[01:36] <magnetron> !upgrade > brunoUT
[01:36] <LjL> brunoUT: ok, then i'll give you a "good" sources.list, and then hopefully you can upgrade using just update-manager. if nothing was messed up too bad
[01:36] <stiffme1983> hello everyone
[01:37] <Huffalump> Apparently dpkg is locked in a previous apt-get instance/attempt.  How can I kill/unlock that, so I may proceed with apt-getting.
[01:37] <brunoUT> LjL: sounds good
[01:37] <Bakey> nihil: dunno, looks right to me, but i'm not overly familiar
[01:37] <stefg> !players
[01:37] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:37] <foof> !upgrade > foof
[01:37] <stefg> !info exaile
[01:37] <ubotu> exaile: flexible audio player, similar to Amarok, but written in GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8+debian-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 294 kB, installed size 1408 kB
[01:37] <stiffme1983> do you guys have this problem: kernel randomly freeze with error output like this:
[01:38] <brunoUT> LjL: make my universe stuff available
[01:38] <LjL> brunoUT: sure
[01:38] <stiffme1983> ata1:failed to respond(30secs Status:0xd0)
[01:38] <nihil> Bakey, i think that something is wrong with Categories
[01:38] <foof> can you install once and then just pretend ubuntu is debian and use apt for everything?
[01:39] <DjViper> foof: yes?
[01:39] <Huffalump> why not?
[01:39] <Dextorion> How do i do a complete reinstallation of a program with apt-get?  I broke something and i need to reinstall the program completely. If i do apt-get remove, and then install i get the same fault.
[01:39] <LjL> brunoUT: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16540/ (you can click on the "Download as text" link to get rid all of the line numbers). after using this as your /etc/apt/sources.list, type  sudo apt-get update , and then fire up the update manager as the !upgrade documentation says, and see if you can upgrade cleanly to Feisty
[01:39] <Huffalump> foof, I use apt-get more and more instead of the GUI
[01:39] <gils> man the DVD iso torrent i have is SLOOOOOW
[01:39] <DjViper> how can a torrent be slow?
[01:39] <replman> when i install sun-java-6-jdk, is it better to remove gij first?
[01:39] <DjViper> gils: did you open the bt port in your router?
[01:40] <brunoUT> LjL: can i not just copy and paste into my sources.list?
[01:40] <gils> port #?
[01:40] <slackern> Dextorion: you could add --purge when removing, that will delete all configs and such also
[01:40] <Christopherl> Cannot send mail from Evolution 2.10.1, but can receive mail. Some port is blocked? Using Ubuntu 7.04.
[01:40] <rambo3> replman, it doesnt matter
[01:40] <gils> DjViper: What port should it be
[01:40] <TooR4u> how to Upload the files into remote mechine ...?I have conneted to a site.I know the password.how to upload the files from my directory to the remote mechine
[01:40] <replman> rambo3: thank you!
[01:40] <hakwaa> hi, I've noticed that ssh and all ssh-based apps (scp, etc) run significantly slower after updating to Feisty. does anyone recognize this problem?
[01:40] <gils> DjViper: i dont use torrents oftehn
[01:40] <foof> does ubuntu use its own repository, or a combination of its own and the official debian repository?
[01:40] <oktay> Hello sirs, I hope my current unannounced visit finds you in good spirits.
[01:40] <Dextorion> slackern: tried that aswell actually. But when i do install later on, i still get the same fault.  Its my eclipse that is broke, and it looks for startup.jar. But that file doesnt get installed when i do apt-get install eclipse.
[01:41] <DjViper> gils: hm google it, bittorrent+nat :)
[01:41] <Huffalump> foof, its own
[01:41] <gfather> hay guys
[01:41] <smo> anyone know ubiquity right?
[01:41] <LjL> brunoUT: yes, that's what you should do. just click on "Download as text" first, and paste *that*, otherwise you'll also paste all the line numbers and cruft
[01:41] <Dextorion> slackern: Even if i do --reinstall, or --purge when i do remove.
[01:41] <LjL> brunoUT: which, obviously, won't work ;)
[01:41] <jrib> foof: its own repository, but the packages are synced with debian every release
[01:41] <oktay> i shall require as to how to add the feisty CD to the sources list and do an upgrade via this very same CD.
[01:41] <gfather> where i can find ubuntu latest releas
[01:41] <gfather> ??
[01:41] <tarzeau> there won't be feisty powerpc version?
[01:41] <rambo3> gfather, /topic
[01:41] <TooR4u> how to Upload the files into remote mechine ...?I have conneted to a site.I know the password.how to upload the files from my directory to the remote mechine
[01:41] <slackern> Dextorion: hmm i had a similar problem way back but that was with some monitoring software, worked fine on debian but not on ubuntu
[01:41] <Pici> !ppc
[01:41] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[01:41] <jrib> gfather: www.ubuntu.com click download
[01:41] <oktay> gfather: ubuntu.com.. even google. come on
[01:41] <LjL> brunoUT: direct link - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16540/plain/
[01:41] <tarzeau> TooR4u: using rsync, lftp, scp?
[01:41] <spikeb> tarzeau, not an official release, but a community port. which is out.
[01:42] <tarzeau> spikeb: where?
[01:42] <Huffalump> gfather try http://ubuntu.com
[01:42] <Pici> tarzeau: See ubotu's message above.
[01:42] <slackern> Dextorion: could it be that you need to install some java package before?
[01:42] <TooR4u> tarzeau, okey i will try 1min
[01:42] <finalbeta> Does Feisty's codec install feature include support for WMA etc? Or does that still require 3th party repo's?
[01:42] <slackern> Dextorion: that has been missed in dependencies or something?
[01:42] <atomiku> hmm
[01:42] <LjL> finalbeta: the latter, i suspect
[01:42] <Dextorion> slackern: alrihgty.  Strange this..  Its on my work machine, and i just had eclipse installed. But decided that it needed a reinstallation.
[01:42] <Dextorion> slackern: no idea.
[01:42] <foof> without starting any flames, why ubuntu over debian? :)
[01:42] <spikeb> tarzeau, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/feisty/release
[01:42] <atomiku> I'm having trouble with the nvidia drivers, X fails to start (saying it cant load the drivers)
[01:42] <slackern> Dextorion: I can try to install it here and see what happens
[01:42] <atomiku> It was working fine :P
[01:42] <finalbeta> LjL: yeah, I assumed as much 2. Kind off kills the whole point of it.
[01:43] <tarzeau> spikeb, Pici thanks
[01:43] <DjViper> foof: newer software, larger community
[01:43] <brunoUT> LjL: thanks....but i have to head off to class before i can update
[01:43] <user-land> hi, is the upgrade to 7.04 problematic ?
[01:43] <brunoUT> hopefully that works when i get back
[01:43] <jrib> finalbeta: I can play them here and don't think I installed any gstreamer plugins by hand
[01:43] <gfather> thanks
[01:43] <bimberi> oktay: 1. needs to be the alternate cd.  2. insert it into a running system and follow the prompts
[01:43] <spikeb> tarzeau, if you end up installing it, come back and let me know how it is - i have a family member waiting to see if she should upgrade or not :)
[01:43] <finalbeta> jrib: nice.
[01:43] <slackern> Dextorion: downloading and installing now
[01:43] <oktay> bimberi: shoot. i already have the regular cd. full upgrade it is then. Thanks !! :)
[01:43] <LjL> finalbeta: well, you *really* cannot distribute the Win32 codecs. that, Ubuntu just cannot do. still however, VLC should be able to play some WMA's, and maybe gstreamer can do the same
[01:43] <enry> !codec
[01:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:43] <MenZa> Can anyone tell me how I choose sound card1 rather than sound card0 to play my sound?
[01:43] <Huffalump> user-land - each experience is unique.  most people seem just fine.  I, however, have troubles with a bug related to nvidia drivers.
[01:43] <oktay> tarzeau: i thought you used debian
[01:44] <user-land> thanks, huffalump.
[01:44] <spikeb> debian is what my ppc using family member is going to be using if the community port sucks heh
[01:44] <user-land> i remember the upgrade 6 month ago was problematic for a lot of users.
[01:44] <Dextorion> slackern: cool
[01:44] <slackern> Dextorion: it installed here and started
[01:44] <user-land> they had to make a new install to avoid problems.
[01:44] <user-land> so this time the upgrade is smooth for most ?
[01:44] <Dextorion> slackern: should work. I bet it just me that broke it when uninstalling or something
[01:44] <slackern> Dextorion: want a list of the packages it installed?
[01:45] <crolle17> can somebody tell if it is possible to do some regexp with vi?
[01:45] <ferronica> how to make my windows drive read and write??? both
[01:45] <foof> Are any ports better supported on debian?  I've got an amd64 box.
[01:45] <nicolah> is it possible to upgrade to feisty using the dvd as a repo ?
[01:45] <atomiku> So uh yeah, Any idea why startx is failing to load due to not being able to load the nvidia drivers?
[01:45] <stefg> !ntfs-3g | ferronica
[01:45] <ubotu> ferronica: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:45] <MenZa> Can anyone tell me how I choose sound card1 rather than sound card0 to play my sound?
[01:45] <hakwaa> exit
[01:45] <spikeb> foof, they're officially supported, so yeah
[01:45] <Huffalump> user-land, in my case the bug is quite amazing... someone (apparently) did not include all the necessary bits and pieces for nvidia drivers under certain conditions.  I've seen some very confused people killing themselves to solve it... esp when i look in the mirror.  But I know it's not affecting everyone.
[01:45] <Dextorion> slackern: nah.. im quite sure i have them, its just..  i dont understand why it doesnt install that startup.jar file.
[01:45] <tarzeau> oktay: i do :)
[01:45] <MenZa> !sound
[01:45] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:45] <tarzeau> oktay: it's for others, not me
[01:45] <Dextorion> slackern: it should reside inside /usr/lib/eclipse or something like that.
[01:45] <crolle17> i mean it is possible to insert some character by regexp?
[01:45] <Christopherl> how do I open/close ports in Ubuntu 7.04?
[01:45] <oktay> tarzeau: good for you :)
[01:45] <ferronica> stefg: right now i am in ubuntu 6.10 :(
[01:45] <tarzeau> oktay: and you, ubuntu?
[01:45] <jrib> !firewall > Christopherl    (Christopherl, see the private message from ubotu)
[01:46] <Dextorion> slackern: yup, /usr/lib/eclipse/startup.jar.
[01:46] <oktay> tarzeau: yeah. for a while now.
[01:46] <ferronica> stefg: i wanna use right now fstab
[01:46] <tarzeau> oktay: making packages too?
[01:46] <user-land> you almost killed yourself, huffalump ?
[01:46] <foof> thanks everyone!
[01:46] <Huffalump> user-land, I think one should not have to reinstall.  That's generally the last resort of an impatient person not willing to reach out for help / learn a little something.
[01:46] <stefg> ferronica: this is edgy... please read the link ubotu gave you
[01:46] <oktay> tarzeau: no sir. i am just an end-user :)
[01:46] <Huffalump> user-land, until this nvidia bug is solved for me, I am not to be allowed near razor blades.
[01:46] <slackern> Dextorion: -rw-r--r--   1 root root 34173 2007-04-10 19:07 startup.jar there it is
[01:46] <user-land> huffalump, how can you reach out when the computer does not boot to x-server ?
[01:47] <oktay> tarzeau: i stopped messing with the OS too much when work got busy :). nowadays i just use the stuff.
[01:47] <ytsestef> Firefox flash doesn't work!! and i cant install it from adobe becuase i'm on x64.. what can i do?
[01:47] <Dextorion> slackern: yeah.. i dont have it anymore.  And it doesnt get installed together with eclipse.
[01:47] <slackern> Dextorion: i could maybe upload it for you somewhere to try with if you want
[01:47] <tarzeau> oktay: no time to play nethack?
[01:47] <dfasfadsfdas> anyone know the package name for adobe pdf and nonfree fonts addon in synaptic is?
[01:47] <jrib> !flash > ytsestef    (ytsestef, see the private message from ubotu)
[01:47] <Dextorion> slackern: yeah..  could try :)  I bet there are more files missing but hey.. we could try
[01:47] <CompuChip> Hi.
[01:47] <spikeb> ytsestef, you could use gnash, or you could install nspluginwrapper and try and work with that to make the x86 flash work
[01:48] <oktay> tarzeau: not really. not even time for irc.
[01:48] <tarzeau> oktay: briquolo? brutalchess? supertransball2? mazeofgalious? pathogen? www.mtp-target.org? bub-n-bros.sf.net?
[01:48] <Huffalump> user-land, good point.  I am fortunate enough to have a second machine where I'm writing from at the moment.  Seems to me, however, that there's been line-command IRC since the olden times... not that I know how to use it, but I've seen it.  Maybe a quick refresher is in order before you head down the primrose path?  Just in case of any unpleasantries, of course.
[01:48] <xplode_me> hi! After i upgraded to feisty (from edgy) gnome is going crazy. I have some applications on the startup list (gnome-session-properties) but they only show up minutes later. Anyone knows how to fix this?
[01:48] <Tom47> dfasfadsfdas: try the search function
[01:48] <ytsestef> thanks spikeb and jrib!
[01:48] <slackern> Dextorion: i'll just zip the folder so you get all in it
[01:48] <spikeb> ytsestef, you bet :)
[01:48] <Dextorion> slackern: cool :)
[01:49] <user-land> thanks, huffalump, you may have saved me a day downtime. i have nvidia.
[01:49] <CompuChip> I was updating from Edgy to Feisty  when my laptop overheated and shut down. Now when I start up in recovery mode, it says "Waiting for root system" and then tells me /dev/hda2 (where it is installed) does not exist and drops to a (initramfs) shell. Any solutions except reinstall completely?
[01:49] <DjViper> how do I make ubuntu connect to a default wlan when I boot up?
[01:49] <Huffalump> user-land, -> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/98641
[01:49] <jono> people of the world, go and digg http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Open_Week_2 :)
[01:50] <yellow_chicken> i have 6.10 and applied all the updates, now i have 2 kernel versions, 2.6.17-10 and 2.6.17-11.  should i use -11 to upgrade to ubuntu 7.04?
[01:50] <bimberi> jono: only when you buy me that pint! ;P
[01:50] <spikeb> yellow_chicken, yeah probably
[01:50] <jono> bimberi: :)
[01:50] <yellow_chicken> but the default is 2.6.10
[01:50] <spikeb> yellow_chicken, i dont think it will matter what you're actually running as long as both are installed.
[01:50] <user-land> thanks, huffalump, so i will wait.
[01:50] <DjViper> jono: dugg
[01:51] <atomiku> Hmmm Restricted Drivers Manager is complaining that it needs some linux-kernel module, but when I try to apt-get install it, it says it has no installation candidate
[01:51] <CompuChip> yellow_chicken after upgrading to -11 it set that to default here
[01:51] <yellow_chicken> anyone did a upgrade? if so how long did it take?
[01:51] <spikeb> probably take forever over the net  given the pounding the servers are getting.
[01:52] <yellow_chicken> i think it's very congested at this time
[01:52] <spikeb> yes it is.
[01:52] <Anss1> How do I highlight rows with my nick or special keywords in Gaim/Pidgin?
[01:52] <ubuntu_noob> hello, how do I fix error: *** SDL_image has no PNG support! You need SDL_image with PNG support?
[01:52] <DjViper> how do I make ubuntu connect to a default wlan when I boot up?
[01:52] <zaggynl> Anyone knows a now playing plugin for xchat2 ? I can't find it :<
[01:52] <Anss1> ...which is the Edgy default IRC client.
[01:52] <CompuChip> Re my problem: when I boot from Live CD I *can* mount /dev/hda2 manually, through the shell I get when booting from HDD doesn't show anything starting with hda under /dev
[01:52] <spikeb> hmm
[01:52] <atomiku> E: Package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic has no installation candidate
[01:52] <atomiku> Hmm?
[01:52] <rashid> how do i install java version 6
[01:52] <spikeb> Anss1, that used to be in preferences, but it might have moved to a plugin.
[01:53] <yellow_chicken> spikeb:  i did a fresh install of 6.10, and have to update 165 packages, took like 30 to 40 minutes
[01:53] <user-land> all the best, huffalump.
[01:53] <Valstorm2379> anyone in?
[01:53] <Anss1> spikeb, I looked through the plugins, to no available.
[01:53] <enry> the video in internet are all framed
[01:53] <enry> no fluid
[01:53] <spikeb> hmm
[01:53] <Valstorm2379> Anyone know a USB format program that runs through Ubuntu?
[01:53] <jrib> atomiku: what version of ubuntu?
[01:53] <spikeb> Anss1, im not sure then. i hate using gaim for irc heh
[01:53] <atomiku> 7
[01:53] <enry> wowww
[01:53] <atomiku> I'm trying to get my nvidia drivers working again you see
[01:53] <jrib> atomiku: that package isn't on 7.04.  Why are you installing it?
[01:54] <atomiku> Well
[01:54] <verb3k> guys my brother's CD/DVD reader is old and extremely slow ....is there a faster way to install ubuntu without downloading the alternate CD ? Thanks in advance
[01:54] <atomiku> Im trying to get into the Restricted Drivers manager thing
[01:54] <Valstorm2379> Also, anyone remember the link for packages/software I can't remember it.
[01:54] <atomiku> its saying it needs that package to run
[01:54] <eifzon> !nvidia-drivers
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia-drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <gilnim> hello
[01:54] <atomiku> yeah
[01:54] <atomiku> Ive tried installing the nvidia drivers
[01:54] <bimberi> Valstorm2379: packages.ubuntu.com ?
[01:54] <Anss1> Well spikeb, as an Linux trainer and consultant, I hate that people can not trust the default programs.
[01:54] <atomiku> But then X fails to start
[01:54] <jrib> atomiku: hmm, sounds buggy... can you pastebin the exact error?
[01:54] <atomiku> Well
[01:54] <Valstorm2379> sweet thanks
[01:54] <Valstorm2379> :D
[01:54] <atomiku> X is saying it couldnt load the nvidia drivers
[01:55] <ubuntu_noob> hello, how do I fix error: *** SDL_image has no PNG support! You need SDL_image with PNG support?
[01:55] <atomiku> so atm I'm using the default xorg.conf
[01:55] <spikeb> Anss1, gaim/pidgin weren't designed particularly for IRC. if i were in charge, xchat would be the default client :)
[01:55] <gilnim> does someone know a restorationtool for getting back information from a formatted harddisk?
[01:55] <jrib> ubuntu_noob: what gives you that error?
[01:55] <slackern> Dextorion: im sending it now but i'm capped at 100k/sec out so will take a little while
[01:55] <Valstorm2379> Atomiku, you need to follow the step by step guide.
[01:55] <atomiku> .
[01:55] <atomiku> I have...
[01:55] <atomiku> lol k I'll try again
[01:55] <atomiku> !nvidia
[01:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:55] <slackern> Dextorion: it'll take around 10min
[01:55] <gilnim> !restore
[01:55] <bimberi> gilnim: i've heard good things about photorec.  stand by I'll check what package it's in
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <atomiku> As of Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) the recommended way to install the binary drivers is to use System -> Administration -> Restricted Devices Manager.
[01:56] <ubuntu_noob> jrib, when compiling wesntoh
[01:56] <atomiku> Now how am I going to do tjhis if I cant get into restricted devices manager?
[01:56] <jrib> ubuntu_noob: why compile?  It's in the repositories, use Add/Remove or Synaptic
[01:56] <crolle17> i read somewhere that this should be possible with vim: :s/pattern/string/flags (regexp)
[01:56] <jrib> !info wesnoth | ubuntu_noob
[01:56] <ubotu> ubuntu_noob: wesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1937 kB, installed size 4396 kB
[01:56] <Huffalump> atomiku - Same problem i have because of this nvidia thing.
[01:56] <jrib> crolle17: it is :)
[01:56] <bimberi> !info testdisk | gilnim
[01:56] <ubotu> gilnim: testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[01:56] <atomiku> Huffalump: did you solve your problem?
[01:57] <Huffalump> atomiku - not quite, but I'm closing in on an answer I think.
[01:57] <bimberi> gilnim: testdisk includes photorec
[01:57] <gilnim> bimberi: thanks
[01:57] <atomiku> Huffalump: okay cool.
[01:57] <bimberi> gilnim: yw, good luck with it
[01:57] <verb3k> sorry for repeating the question ,but I really need your help.My brother's CD/DVD reader is old and extremely slow to the extent that prevented me from insalling ubuntu on it ....is there a way to install ubuntu in a fast way without downloading the alternate CD for text mode? Thanks in advance
[01:57] <ubuntu_noob> jrib,well, I wanted learn how to compile and 1.2.3 is not the latest version
[01:57] <BrokenLinux> Hey can anyone recommend me a nice IRC client besides xchat-gnome and gAIM?
[01:57] <crolle17> jrib so for example this should replace risk with ceis_risk shouldn't it? -> :s/risk/ceis_risk
[01:57] <mc44> atomiku: what does 'uname -r' say for you?
[01:57] <jrib> ubuntu_noob: sudo apt-get build-dep wesnoth      should help
[01:57] <atomiku> 2.6.17-11-generic
[01:57] <jrib> crolle17: on the current line, yes
[01:57] <mc44> atomiku: well youj arentt on feisty then
[01:57] <atomiku> I am
[01:58] <mc44> atomiku: not with that kernel
[01:58] <Valstorm2379> Atomiku could it be you got the wrong kernels?
[01:58] <bimberi> !irc | BrokenLinux
[01:58] <ubotu> BrokenLinux: irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[01:58] <atomiku> Wait wait wait I know what has happened here
[01:58] <mc44> atomiku: you havent rebooted?
[01:58] <crolle17> jrib but when i want to do it with the whole document?
[01:58] <atomiku> Its updated the /boot/ config on the wrong partition
[01:58] <Jowi> verb3k, there should be a minimal install cd available that downloads most stuff from the net. not sure it is available for feisty yet though ( see !install )
[01:58] <atomiku> It updated the wrong grub config
[01:58] <Valstorm2379> My error msg was: This kernel is version number, conflict etc.
[01:58] <BrokenLinux> bimberi: thanks
[01:58] <jrib> crolle17: put a  %  before the s
[01:58] <bimberi> BrokenLinux: yw :)
[01:58] <atomiku> Also
[01:58] <crolle17> jrib will do so.
[01:58] <atomiku> Setting up nvidia-glx-new (1.0.9755+<IP_ADDRESS>-15.20) ...
[01:58] <ubuntu_noob> jrib, is there a direct way to fix the issues instead of going the other way around and downloading deps
[01:58] <atomiku> is that the one I need?
[01:58] <mc44> atomiku: yes
[01:59] <atomiku> Okay
[01:59] <verb3k> Jowi: Thanks Jowi ..... I really appreciate your help
[01:59] <kaiyang> hi, may i know is there any security issue if i use the desktop edition to run as a server? because i am not comfortable with the commandline in server edtion
[01:59] <Huffalump> atomiku, that's what I understand... but that has not worked for me.
[01:59] <atomiku> Now lemme pull the updated grub config and put it on the right partition
[01:59] <stiffme1983> edgy
[01:59] <mc44> atomiku: but you really need to be in the correct kernel
[01:59] <Jowi> verb3k, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[01:59] <stiffme1983> sorry
[01:59] <CompuChip> Anyone here that's good at solving startup problems? I don't feel like re-installing my system
[01:59] <atomiku> Be right back guys, thanks for the help mc44 and Huffalump
[01:59] <jrib> ubuntu_noob: I don't know what the issue is, but if it's a dependency one then that command will fix it
[01:59] <BrokenLinux> bimberi: xchat won't install on feisty :/
[02:00] <ubuntu_noob> jrib, alright thanks anyways
[02:00] <stiffme1983> does any one have sound problem using Intel HD audio?
[02:00] <bimberi> BrokenLinux: really? an error?
[02:00] <bimberi> *any
[02:00] <crolle17> jrib the i get message: prototype not found
[02:00] <BrokenLinux> bimberi: xchat: Depends: tcl8.4 (>= 8.4.5) but it is not installable
[02:00] <doc_> bimberi: i'm using xchat on feisty right now
[02:00] <jrib> crolle17: paste the command you used
[02:00] <bimberi> !info tcl8.4 feisty
[02:00] <ubotu> tcl8.4: Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - run-time files. In component main, is optional. Version 8.4.14-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1136 kB, installed size 3192 kB
[02:01] <BrokenLinux> bimberi: So I need to install tcl8.4 first?
[02:01] <bimberi> BrokenLinux: yes, but there seems to be some issue.  Put our sources.list file on a pastebin
[02:01] <atomiku> wait
[02:01] <bimberi> *your
[02:01] <atomiku> Ive got a problem here
[02:01] <crolle17> jrib: sorry it is working now. GREAT!
[02:01] <sorcerer> i see this file i wanna run it quake4-linux-1.4.1-sdk.x86.run in .. command line how can i do this
[02:02] <atomiku> Ive got a problem here, I have two partitions (one boot partition one main partition) both mounted to /
[02:02] <Maximilian1st> sorcerer, ./quake4...
[02:02] <atomiku> I cant seem to get to /boot/ on the boot partition
[02:02] <jrib> crolle17: you know about the help system?   :he :s
[02:02] <atomiku> what shall I do?
[02:02] <ubuntu_noob> jrib, thanks alot
[02:02] <atomiku> unmount the boot partition (thats currently mounted as /) and mount it elsewhere?
[02:03] <atomiku> I cant unmount it
[02:03] <crolle17> jrib do you mean man vi?
[02:03] <sorcerer> Maximilian1st:  just ./quake4 ?
[02:03] <atomiku> Looks like im going to have to do this from the livecd be back in a bit
[02:03] <jrib> crolle17: nope, try the command I said above,     :he :s
[02:03] <CompuChip> atomiku, you're not in the dir are you :)
[02:03] <atomiku> what
[02:03] <Jowi> atomiku, reboot. no good to have several partitions mounted to the same dir (without its own subdir that is)
[02:03] <crolle17> jrib will do so.
[02:03] <atomiku> welkl
[02:03] <atomiku> look
[02:04] <CompuChip> you can't unmount the directory if you're inside it
[02:04] <atomiku> I have a 4gig partition set as boot
[02:04] <orbin> kaiyang: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[02:04] <Maximilian1st> nope, ./quake4... ...being the rest of the name of the .run
[02:04] <Maximilian1st> I was lazy