[09:25] <don_jr> Has anyone here successfully got the java JRE working?
[09:25] <davin> Fuzzy: Thats why you're in a support channel =)
[09:25] <Fuzzy> true that
[09:25] <davin> don_jr: you mean Java in a browser?
[09:26] <don_jr> davin yes
[09:26] <brian98> liothen: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/ should help ya
[09:26] <Homicide187> it happened when i installed a bunch of plugins
[09:26] <davin> don_jr: I used EasyUbuntu
[09:26] <monklegacy> don_jr: yes
[09:26] <don_jr> davin EasyUbuntu??
[09:26] <tomaczec> hi
[09:26] <thomas> Can somebody please point me the right direction about Hibernation? I'm using XGL.
[09:26] <thomas> !hibernate
[09:26] <ubotu> hibernate: activates your computer's suspend functionality. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.12-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 66 kB, installed size 328 kB
[09:26] <don_jr> monklegacy what did you do? I downloaded and installed and firefox isn't reading it still
[09:26] <nich0s> Ok, does anyone know of a browser that will support perl scripting...  I need to clear out ~/.gnome* in order to get running again (I've also been removing the folders in ~/.themes).  anyone seen this before?
[09:27] <brian98> so to ghost or not to ghost?
[09:27] <backlit> don_jr: easyubuntu is nice, but it's VERY easy to get all that stuff working without it
[09:27] <monklegacy> don_jr: use synaptic package manager
[09:27] <thomas> mds: you cannot install gtk2 themes for KDE.
[09:27] <algabone> hi everybody
[09:27] <davin> mds: try booting in recovery mode/xterm and 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' then 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:27] <don_jr> monklegacy I treid looking through synaptic, couldn't find anything that looked like what I needed.
[09:27] <algabone> does anyone use gajim ?
[09:27] <covOPprometheus> thomas, hehehe guess what, I rebooted and it worked
[09:27] <covOPprometheus> thomas, ^^
[09:27] <backlit> don_jr: for java, you can just apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[09:28] <thomas> covOPprometheus: you didn't try that before coming in here?!!
[09:28] <tomaczec> Hibernate -> is also a java oop persistance framework.
[09:28] <magnet> algabone: yep
[09:28] <davin> don_jr: Use easyubuntu, it does everything for you, just make sure you dont check Videos, cause its borked
[09:28] <backlit> don_jr: you have to have the multiverse repository enabled for sun-java5-plugin
[09:28] <monklegacy>  don_jr: did you try "jre"?
[09:28] <algabone> magnet: did you use it with yahoo account ?
[09:28] <covOPprometheus> thomas, I had just restarted, so I didn't think it would help
[09:28] <mds> thomas: I was installing it into gnome :), davin: thanks, I'll give that a shot
[09:28] <cerda> nich0s ??
[09:28] <don_jr> backlit I have multiverse and univers enabled, monklegacy I'll do a search for jre now
[09:28] <backlit> trust me, sun-java5-plugin is what you want
[09:28] <Homicide187> anything about that bus error?
[09:28] <MrPants> does anyone konw how to install GTK+? for some reason it doesn't seem to work for me at all
[09:28] <backlit> not jre
[09:28] <davin> mds: then after use sudo reboot to reboot
[09:29] <magnet> algabone: ? yahoo doesn't provide xmpp, yahoo sux, i don't use yahoo :) btw you mean yahoo transports?
[09:29] <Deeah> Is Dapper beta yet?
[09:29] <nich0s> cerda, join channel #omgz
[09:29] <Deeah> er
[09:29] <Deeah> Is Edgy beta yet?
[09:29] <thomas> mds: just extract the theme file into ~./themes
[09:29] <davin> mds: you know how to use a text-based irc client (irss) in the terminal?
[09:29] <backlit> don_jr: the sun-java5-plugin will install all the extras you need
[09:29] <don_jr> backlit getting it now, thank you again
[09:29] <mds> I usually do use irssi davin
[09:29] <davin> mds: irssi*
[09:29] <davin> mds: okay np
[09:29] <backlit> don_jr: np, it's what i'm here for :)
[09:29] <juan> what do i need to do to get beagle to find files on my computer atm its not finding file names of files i know i have
[09:29] <DShepherd> Deeah: not that i know of
[09:29] <algabone> magnet: I want to use it like I use gaim. instead of google talk, yahoo messenger and msn
[09:29] <monklegacy> backlit:  why not jre?
[09:29] <DShepherd> juan: time. it takes awhile to index
[09:30] <DShepherd> juan: give it about 15-20 mins or so
[09:30] <rc55> Hi, I've installed 4 extra new hard drives, formatted them as ext3 - how can I make them auto mount on my ubuntu system?
[09:30] <thomas> juan: in the preferences dialogue make sure its scanning your home directory.
[09:30] <monklegacy> backlit: nevermind
[09:30] <backlit> monklegacy: he might install the wrong version of the jre, or the GNU JRE, and no matter what, that won't install the mozilla plugin he is looking for
[09:30] <Kirby904> Kirby needs assistance please.
[09:30] <magnet> algabone: maybe you should read about gajim; it's not like gaim, it's a Jabber/XMPP client, if you want to use 3rd party crappy protocols, you'll have to use a transport (so use a server which supports those transports)
[09:30] <tomaczec> Deeah: Edgy is alpa. i my understanding of greek letters.
[09:30] <midgetg0a1> hrm...so cant view videos through rdesktop?
[09:30] <juan> i set it to be scanning root
[09:30] <midgetg0a1> sux :(
[09:30] <backlit> monklegacy: too late :)
[09:30] <anon32> !wine
[09:30] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:30] <algabone> magnet: do you know some ?
[09:30] <klaus> hi all
[09:31] <backlit> !roboto
[09:31] <Liothen> thanks was trying to help out a friend that has ubunutu
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roboto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <Kirby904> klaus: hi
[09:31] <magnet> algabone: www.jabber.org is your friend
[09:31] <davin> klaus: hiya
[09:31] <Kirby904> Kirby needs assistance with One Quick Thing Please
[09:31] <klaus> where am I?
[09:31] <anon32> kirby: please don't refer to yourself in the third person
[09:31] <magnet> klaus: on the intarweb
[09:31] <thomas> Kirby904: just state your problem.
[09:31] <DShepherd> klaus: earth
[09:31] <tomaczec> Deeah: w/ ubuntu they call it 'flights', not?
[09:32] <Kirby904> I try to install my Phtosmart 3300 series printer
[09:32] <Kirby904> i used the printer wizard
[09:32] <don_jr> davin that EasyUbuntu looks very nice.  Thank you.
[09:32] <Kirby904> and then i put in the correct host name for it
[09:32] <Kirby904> and it doesnt work
[09:32] <algabone> magnet: thanks. i'll search there the answer for my problem. :)
[09:32] <thomas> Kirby904: read ubuntuguide. www.ubuntuguide.com
[09:32] <magnet> algabone: np :)
[09:32] <Kirby904> it is a printer connected wirelessly into my router
[09:32] <Neo8750> !cups
[09:32] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:32] <davin> don_jr: np, it should get your mp3 woes over too if you havent done it yet, I didnt have mp3 support in amaroK for months :[
[09:32] <juan> ive left beagle running for hours but its not working is there any setting i can check to make sure it works right
[09:32] <asdfjkl> anyone know how to dock thunderbird to the system tray?
[09:33] <nich0s> Perl browser?
[09:33] <nich0s> anyone?
[09:33] <don_jr> davin I'm also looking to see if I can get wmv files to run
[09:33] <Neo8750> google it
[09:33] <magnet> asdfjkl: www.mozilla.com, look for an extension doing what you want
[09:33] <tomaczec> maybe they call it flights only since the last release was called 'drake'... now i got confused, too.
[09:33] <thomas> juan: check the preferences dialogue to make sure it's indexing your home folder.
[09:33] <juan> it is
[09:33] <nich0s> asdfjkl: You can actually download an addon at www.mozilla.com
[09:33] <klaus> is it jut to chat or to discus ubuntu probs?
[09:33] <magnet> mozilla.org it is
[09:33] <asdfjkl> nich0s which one?
[09:33] <klaus> just
[09:33] <Neo8750> don_jr: mplay plays wmv but not drm ones
[09:33] <davin> don_jr: yeah you can install mpeg/wmv codecs with easyubuntu too
[09:33] <Fuzzy> hmm when i do sudo aticonfig --initial i get  "*editing.txt*" is not a valid keyword in this section.
[09:33] <thomas> juan: is beagled running?
[09:33] <davin> don_jr: just dont check the web videos, its broken
[09:33] <nich0s> asdfjkl: Pretty self explanatory, it is like "minimize to system tray" addon :P
[09:34] <Fuzzy> maybe i need to be in a certain directory for that?
[09:34] <thomas> nich0s: check out AllTray. Great program.
[09:34] <juan> yes  2x beagled 2x beagle-search and a beagle helper
[09:34] <nich0s> thomas: Can I apt-get it or do I have to actually do work. *whines*
[09:35] <asdfjkl> nich0s: minimizetotray is only available for windows
[09:35] <klaus> ex
[09:35] <algabone> asdfjkl: when you start thunderbird doesn't apper it's icon in system tray ? on my computer this is what happends. and if i click them it minimise to system tray
[09:35] <Samineru> I have a logitech "marble mouse" It is a normal mouse with a trackball on the front. It is working fine except for one thing, it has two extra button that are designed to do page up and page down could someone just point to where i can change the functions of mouse buttons
[09:35] <backlit> is it true that the next ubuntu release after edgy eft is going to be called furry f*ck*r?
[09:35] <anon32> don_jr: to play drm ones, you need a windows install and a copy of fairuse4wm
[09:35] <thomas> nich0s: check?
[09:35] <backlit> (that's what i heard)
[09:35] <thomas> !alltray
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alltray - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <thomas> ugh.
[09:35] <thomas> !package alltray
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package alltray - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <nich0s> Then look at thomases suggestion of AllTray... i know nothing about it, but you could ask him :P
[09:35] <thomas> ...
[09:35] <tomaczec> ununtu wizards: is 'flight' just for 'drake'? or a synonym for 'beta release'?
[09:35] <asdfjkl> algabone, no there is no icon that appears in the tray when i start it
[09:35] <don_jr> anon32 a windows install?  what ya mean?  and what is fairuse4vs
[09:35] <Deeah> Does edgy have an official public release schedule? Is there an exact day it's expected to be released?
[09:36] <Fuzzy> hmm when i do sudo aticonfig --initial i get  "*editing.txt*" is not a valid keyword in this section. maybe i need to be in a certain directory?
[09:36] <afm\colo> tomaczec: well, edgy snapshots are called "Knot"
[09:36] <Samineru> !mice
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <Samineru> !mouse
[09:36] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[09:36] <backlit> !uboto
[09:36] <backlit> !ubotu
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uboto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:36] <anon32> don_jr: fairuse4wm exploits a windows vulnerability to crack drmed wm* files
[09:36] <dut> !x
[09:36] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:36] <backlit> at least it knows its own name
[09:36] <Kirby904> lol
[09:37] <Kirby904> !tell Kirby904 about himself
[09:37] <don_jr> anon32 I'll probably wait to try and get that running for a while then.
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about himself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <asdfjkl> algabone are you using kde?
[09:37] <thomas> Kirby904: stop that.
[09:37] <Kirby904> ok.
[09:37] <algabone> asdfjkl: yes. why ?
[09:37] <Kirby904> !tell kirby904 about printers
[09:37] <asdfjkl> algabone, i'm using gnome
[09:37] <asdfjkl> i know kde does it by default
[09:38] <algabone> asdfjkl: I'm not sure if it happend the same in gnome. i'll try right now and I'll return in 5 minutes
[09:38] <nich0s> Ubotu, IRC Self Gratification
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about IRC Self Gratification - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <tomaczec> beside having cool names it seems to me that ubuntu brings no means for the the version nightmare.
[09:38] <Neo8750> !botsnack
[09:38] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:38] <asdfjkl> algabone, thanks
[09:38] <anon32> lol
[09:39] <Homicide187> should i just reinstall java?
[09:39] <backlit> tomaczec: that's not really ubuntu's purpose (see ubuntu bug #1)
[09:39] <magnet> asdfjkl: you want to use the Purge! extension
[09:39] <magnet> it works in GNOME
[09:40] <asdfjkl> magnet...i'll look for it
[09:40] <tomaczec> backlit: at least, i hit #1 :)
[09:40] <Neo8750> magnet: purge?
[09:40] <ladydoor> hey, i've got a question about ssh...i've never used it before. to make it possible for me to remote-login to my computer, do i need to set up some kind of special server on it or something?
[09:40] <cerda> when 6.10 will be released??
[09:40] <asdfjkl> magnet: do you have a link to it?
[09:41] <backlit> ladydoor: you need t install the openssh-server package
[09:41] <Arcad3> yes lady
[09:41] <marshall> hey guys
[09:41] <magnet> it is an extension to purge your trash but I read that it works as a systray icon for TB
[09:41] <ladydoor> cerda: in 10/06 (october)
[09:41] <Tjoels> yo
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> cerda: when its ready
[09:41] <thomas> laydydoor: install sshd
[09:41] <marshall> is it possible to play shoutcast streams in banshee?
[09:41] <magnet> https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/1792/
[09:41] <Neo8750> cerda: probly right after gnome next release
[09:41] <magnet> I haven't tested it though
[09:41] <thomas> marshall: yes. install the Internet Radio plugin.
[09:41] <ladydoor> backlit: ahh...hm. ok, i'll do that and read the man/info page(s) i guess. thanks
[09:41] <ladydoor> cerda: a little secret is that the release numbers are also the release month/year
[09:41] <marshall> thomas: how?
[09:42] <ladydoor> cerda: or year.month, rather
[09:42] <cerda> ladydoor omg!! =P
[09:42] <MrPants> does anyone know how to fix weird routing problems (like with DC++ and IRC?)
[09:42] <Deeah> Is edgy going to have gnome 2.16 beta, or gnome 2.16?
[09:42] <thomas> marshall: http://banshee-project.org
[09:42] <ladydoor> :-)
[09:42] <backlit> ladydoor: other than setting up port forwarding on your router, you pretty much just need to install the server, and your good to go
[09:42] <tomaczec> ladydoor: sshd needs to be run.
[09:42] <magnet> Deeah: gnome 2.16 (it is out already)
[09:42] <marshall> thanks thomas
[09:42] <algabone> asdfjkl: it's happends the same on gnome
[09:42] <backlit> sshd runs automatically once you install openssh-server
[09:42] <asdfjkl> magnet: can you give me the URL to the extension?
[09:42] <thomas> marshall: no problem. enjoy banshee.
[09:43] <magnet> asdfjkl: I did already; https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/1792/
[09:43] <ladydoor> backlit: hmm..."port forwarding..." what happens if i'm on a network and can't really control that?
[09:43] <asdfjkl> magnet: thx
[09:43] <marshall> lol thanks thomas
[09:43] <asdfjkl> algabone: what version of thunderbird?
[09:43] <MrPants> For some reason my IRC and DC++ takes forever to connect
[09:43] <algabone> asdfjkl:<IP_ADDRESS>
[09:43] <MrPants> anyone know why this might be?
[09:43] <thomas> MrPants: are you on dialup....
[09:43] <tomaczec> ladydoor: sshd <- check for attacks
[09:43] <backlit> ladydoor: if it is a home network, you definitely can, if it is an office network, you need to talk to a network admin there
[09:43] <nich0s> MrPants: Are you on satellite?
[09:43] <asdfjkl> algabone: me too
[09:43] <asdfjkl> algabone: what version of gnome?
[09:43] <MrPants> thomas: i'm at rutgers on their network
[09:43] <ladydoor> backlit: campus, actually
[09:44] <backlit> backlit: if you are connecting from another machine on campus, you shouldn't need any port forwarding
[09:44] <MrPants> thomas: my roommate can connect fine to all these things
[09:44] <algabone> asdfjkl: i didn't do anything special for this. :D I remember i was frustrated it's not the same on firefox
[09:44] <backlit> backlit: if you want to connect from anywhere on the internet, you would do well to talk to a network guy on campus
[09:44] <mds> Has anyone seen changing themes in gnome crash wastebasket & clock and then prevent gnome from loading?
[09:44] <tomaczec> ladydoor: sshd <- check for attacks <- np in a network at home... but, as i see, you are connected to inet.
[09:44] <asdfjkl> algabone: okay
[09:44] <nich0s> MrPants: Does your computer exhibit any Homicidal tendendies? General Stubborness?
[09:44] <algabone> asdfjkl: and I tried an extenstion for this, used by me on windows. but it's not working on ubuntu/linux
[09:44] <ladydoor> tomaczec: inet?
[09:45] <thomas> mds: you cannot install gtk2 themes for KDE.
[09:45] <backlit> tomaczec: you aren't making any sense....
[09:45] <MrPants> thomas: but it seems that after i dissabled the network connection one time (needed the battery life) all this stuff started to happen
[09:45] <asdfjkl> algabone: yeah i saw most of the extensions are for windows
[09:45] <tomaczec> ladydoor: iner == internet, uhm.
[09:45] <mds> thomas: I've already said that I'm not install gtk2 themes in kde, I'm speaking about gnome
[09:45] <tomaczec> ladydoor: inet == internet, uhm.
[09:45] <Donut1> anyone know how I can fix the problem with mplayer/vlc not playing .mpg movies in ubuntu 64bit?
[09:45] <backlit> tomaczec: what's with the "check for attacks"?
[09:46] <mds> I only mentioned that the machine was originally kubuntu so those trying to help had the whole story
[09:46] <cerda> nich0s u there?
[09:46] <Deeah> Donut1: /join #mplayer
[09:46] <backlit> tomaczec: and what is "sshd" supposed to mean to an ssh newbie?
[09:46] <ladydoor> tomaczec: aha. ok, and one more question. do i need to know my whole hostname to log in from another computer?
[09:46] <WooD> Hi ! I have reset Ubuntu and since then ... i've lost the full resolution of my screen.. I tried to set back the resolution but i dont have any choice than the 800x600 any of you can tell me what to do ??
[09:46] <tomaczec> backlit: no sense? please be more precise... i do say a lot of junk.
[09:46] <thomas> !res
[09:46] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:46] <ladydoor> backlit: i assume it's ssh-daemon, but if i'm wrong please let me know :-)
[09:47] <asdfjkl> algabone: any recommendations for me? or am i sol?
[09:47] <backlit> ladydoor: you are correct, but you said you were totally new to ssh, so i figured i would tell you what you needed to install
[09:47] <ladydoor> backlit: sweet
[09:48] <backlit> tomaczec: it's cool, just trying to make 1337 d00ds out of newbs :)
[09:48] <ladydoor> backlit: i am pretty ignorant about it overall, though. i'm glad you're taking that stance
[09:48] <tomaczec> backlit: dont assume nothing. ask.
[09:48] <ladydoor> backlit: well, 1337 d00d37735
[09:48] <ladydoor> backlit: (in my case)
[09:48] <MrPants> anyone have a clue on how to fix my problem?
[09:48] <algabone> asdfjkl: i'm pretty new on ubuntu. i'm using it for almost 2 months now. I'll search an extension, but I'm not sure if I'll succed. try to use google ... :(
[09:48] <algabone> asdfjkl: or search for an answer on ubuntu forums
[09:48] <asdfjkl> algabone: okay thanks
[09:49] <Neo8750> MrPants: ?
[09:49] <thomas> MrPants: make sure your DNS server is configured properly.
[09:49] <magnet> asdfjkl: I didn't find any
[09:49] <magnet> you can use a program that can minimize to tray any app (some exist) or script your own extension (that's the best way)
[09:49] <algabone> asdfjkl: did you install thunderbird using synaptic or the kit from mozilla web site ?
[09:49] <app> Any good references for understanding how automatic discovery/mounting of CD-ROMs and USB devices actually work?
[09:49] <MrPants> thomas: well i have it set to automatic
[09:49] <backlit> ladydoor: to answer your previous question, you don't need your fully hostname to connect from within the same network, just your IP
[09:49] <magnet> asdfjkl:  making your own TB or FF extension is pretty easy
[09:50] <backlit> ladydoor: of course if your hostname is easier to remember, you can use that
[09:50] <asdfjkl> magnet: definately don't have time to do that
[09:50] <magnet> k
[09:50] <ladydoor> backlit: sweet. and how would i go about finding that out? (my ip..my hostname i think i know. it's in the default bash prompt, right? (preferably command-line instructions, as i'm more comfortable though)
[09:50] <backlit> app: i'm convinced its magic :)
[09:50] <ladydoor> backlit: *more comfortable *there*
[09:51] <app> backlit, if it would be magic it would work better ;-)
[09:51] <backlit> ladydoor: type "ifconfig" and it will show the IP address of any active network card on your machine
[09:52] <nich0s> app, It's pretty impressive magic.
[09:52] <ladydoor> backlit: sweet
[09:52] <emergent> I installed the nvidia drivers following the unofficial dapper wiki, restarted X and got the nvidia splash screen; everything was cool. upon reboot it had stopped working and I received an error.
[09:52] <ladydoor> backlit: would that be "inet addr?"
[09:52] <emergent> anyone have similar problems?
[09:52] <torpedo|dog> I'm having a problem with gdmflexiserver.
[09:52] <backlit> app: i believe it is actually linux-hotplug in kernel space that talks to dbus in user space, which in turn talks to gnome-volume-manager to do the actual mounting, but that is all just a guess
[09:53] <backlit> ladydoor: that's it
[09:53] <marcus_> hello, I was wondering, I am using a ubuntu dapper(which I'm now upgrading to edge) is it possible to install the amd64kernel(I'm using i386, I used amd64 before but went to i386 coz of broken packages) and then to dist-upgrade and I'll get all the 64-bit packages?
[09:53] <nich0s> .
[09:53] <app> backlit thx, those were good keywords!!
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> marcus_: nope.
[09:53] <ladydoor> backlit: sweet. so then i could, say, on another machine on the same network, open ssh (unfortunately the school computers don't use linux) and type that in somewhere or other?
[09:53] <magnet> backlit: wrong guess :)
[09:53] <marcus_> I see... to bad :/
[09:54] <thomas> marcus_:install linux-kernel-k7 and linux-kernel-headers-k7
[09:54] <mart_> hi, slightly off topic but someone may be able to help
[09:54] <marcus_> what will happen then?
[09:54] <backlit> magnet: one day i'll learn how it actually works, i was amazed just to see that it works so well now (i used debian 3.0 STABLE before ubuntu)
[09:54] <magnet> 1) hotplug isn't used anymore, 2) hald does it after udevplug :)
[09:54] <tomaczec> ladydoor: man ssh
[09:54] <app> magnet, you know better?
[09:54] <thomas> marcus_: it will install the amd64 kernel. after dist upgrading, you will be running in 64bits.
[09:54] <Sniper00X> does anyone know of a program i can use to quickly create online installation guides like this one: http://www.sixapart.com/movabletype/docs/mtinstall.html
[09:55] <magnet> app: i know everything ;)
[09:55] <backlit> ladydoor: that;s correct. if you want to connect from a windows box, download putty (http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/)
[09:55] <thomas> marcus_: i believe.
[09:55] <app> hald? udevplug? What are these?
[09:55] <mart_> I have installed compiz, but it makes my graphics wierd in other 3d apps
[09:55] <ladydoor> tomaczec: that's what i was thinking, but then as i remembered the other machines i'll be connecting from have windoze
[09:55] <mart_> anyone had any trouble with it before?
[09:55] <marcus_> nice, thx thomas :), btw, is apt-get remove the command to remove all unnecesarry programs?
[09:55] <magnet> app: udevplug replaces hotplug, hald is the Hardware Abstraction Layer daemon
[09:55] <thomas> Sniper00X: use a template.
[09:55] <superjew9021> does anyone no y google earth crashes my computer every time i open it
[09:55] <Sniper00X> thomas: know where I can grab one .. i'm on a crunch and cannot put one together right now
[09:55] <nich0s> ladydoor, You can throw putty on a jump drive and connect SSL to your computer, you would technically be able to set up a remote connection.
[09:55] <backlit> magnet: and all gnome-volume-manager really does is just launch apps, right?
[09:56] <app> Ok magnet, thx.
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> mart_: compiz/xgl is experimental stuff, expect breakage.
[09:56] <ladydoor> backlit: hmmm...well, the thing is the machines in question already have another client installed, so i guess i'll try that instead. all i can say is that it'll be sweet to be able to access screen from those crappy machines
[09:56] <mart_> lol
[09:56] <mart_> fair enough
[09:56] <magnet> backlit: I used debian potatoe in the day :) and RH before that ;)
[09:56] <ladydoor> nich0s: wouldn't i need install permission though?
[09:56] <tomaczec> ladydoor: you have ssh client to run under windoze.
[09:56] <mart_> i can always just go bake to a normal gnome session
[09:56] <mart_> i just like the funky windows :)
[09:56] <magnet> backlit: yep, gnome-vm talks with hald through D-bus
[09:56] <nich0s> ladydoor, Nope.  single file exec
[09:56] <thomas> Sniper00X: this channel is for help with ubuntu... use google for everything else.
[09:56] <nich0s> ladydoor, Just like nmap is.
[09:56] <ladydoor> nich0s: oh, sweet.
[09:56] <Adam> any one know any good tutroials on recompile the kernel on ubuntu?
[09:57] <ladydoor> nich0s: i'm sorry, but what is nmap?
[09:57] <magnet> !kernel
[09:57] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:57] <Adam> *for recompiling
[09:57] <MrPants> anyone?
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> !kernel > Adam
[09:57] <magnet> ladydoor: nmap is a port scanner
[09:57] <Adam> I want my network adpater to work
[09:57] <fred__>
[09:57] <nich0s> ladydoor: Port scanner.
[09:57] <ladydoor> magnet: ah
[09:57] <ladydoor> nich0s: ah
[09:57] <Adam> and I think this is the only way
[09:57] <magnet> :)
[09:57] <nich0s> ladydoor, For EDUCATIONAL purposes only.
[09:57] <backlit> nmap is like, totally more than a port scanner
[09:57] <magnet> not only
[09:58] <magnet> you're free to scan your own networks
[09:58] <backlit> ladydoor: DO NOT use nmap on your campus network without permission
[09:58] <thomas> Adam: then while choosing modules for your kernel, make sure the module for your network chipset is enabled.
[09:58] <ladydoor> backlit: wasn't planning on it
[09:58] <tomaczec> ladydoor: _you_ dont need nmap. ;)
[09:58] <Adam> cheers thomas
[09:58] <fred__> what are u guys talking about ?:)
[09:58] <thomas> Adam: no problem.
[09:58] <Adam> this is my first time compiling a kernel
[09:58] <thomas> Adam: might take a couple tries.
[09:58] <magnet> Adam: join #linux-virgins
[09:58] <magnet> ;)
[09:58] <backlit> damn guys, why don't you start suggesting netcat to the newbs? just write your own packets!
[09:59] <thomas> Adam: don't worry though, because grub will list the old kernels.
[09:59] <superjew9021> does anyone no y google earth crashes my computer every time i open it
[09:59] <Xteven> hello, has someone here successfully booted ubuntu on a GA-965P-DQ6 motherboard ? (gigabyte 6-quad)
[09:59] <nich0s> I was using it as an EXAMPLE :P
[09:59] <backlit> lol
[09:59] <thomas> superjew9021: because it's beta software?
[09:59] <nich0s> I guess I could have said calculator, but Namp was first to mind. :P
[09:59] <Neo8750> =)
[09:59] <thomas> superjew9021: or because you don't have 3d support.
[09:59] <nich0s> err namp
[09:59] <nich0s> NMAP
[09:59] <Adam> what server is  #linux-virgins on?
[09:59] <Vegeta> On the installation of Ubuntu 6.06, when I want to partitition my hd, how can I create the root partition? Or generally how can I change the name, it automatically pics "New Partition #1".
[09:59] <ladydoor> backlit: thanks though. basically i just want to be able to connect to my computer from the network, since a) i use fetchmail and often forget to kill it when i'm going to be out for a while, and b) think it would be useful to be able to get at my files/programs like emacs
[09:59] <backlit> i know what you meant :)
[10:00] <james296> how can I have Ubuntu display my system information properly instead of just saying unknown unknown unknown?
[10:00] <thomas> !installation
[10:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:00] <MrPants> heck does anyone know how to reset the ethernet settings
[10:00] <ladydoor> backlit: (not to mention stuff i forget to email to myself before going to print it out)
[10:00] <tomaczec> at least, should we care about newbies... once they got here. :))
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: do manual partition, and then set the mount point.
[10:00] <moparfan90> does anyone have counter strike source working though wine?
[10:00] <backlit> ladydoor: i never understood how people could learn fetchmail and emacs before ssh... i don't know the first thing about either
[10:00] <thomas> MrPants: disable and reenable your network interface.
[10:00] <backlit> ladydoor: but, as always, glad to be of help, and i hope it works!
[10:00] <Gevaudan82> Hey guys, anyone know how I can permanently set static DNS settings for my ubuntu server...i'm behind a router but everytime i reboot the DNS gets changed to my router's IP and not the static IP i setup?
[10:00] <Vegeta> fyrestrtr: It is the manual parition I'm doing.
[10:00] <james296> well?
[10:01] <thomas> moparfan90: check wine's site? try cedega? or google.
[10:01] <adamlaz> hey all. do you guys know if i could adjust or remove an existing windows partition in order to install Ubuntu?
[10:01] <nich0s> james296: If you find out... let me know. :)
[10:01] <thomas> adamlaz: use gparted.
[10:01] <finalbeta> Following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780&highlight=temperature  ".Run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source. It is extacted below:" << where do I find the lm-sensors source?
[10:01] <magnet> Gevaudan82: disable DHCP
[10:01] <thomas> !partitions
[10:01] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[10:01] <moparfan90> on wines site it says it will work but when i start the gameit  comes up and says loading.. then closes
[10:01] <Gevaudan82> adamlaz: adjust, sure...easiest way is too delete all the partitions, install windows using a limited amount of space and tell ubuntu to use all free space
[10:02] <ladydoor> backlit: i really appreciate your help! and fetchmail was easy...and the thing with emacs & ssh is that my mouse doesn't work and so i had incentive to learn good, mouse-free programs fast, and i don't have any need most of the time to get into other computers
[10:02] <backlit> adamlaz: you don't have to do that, but you can definitely remove it before installing, although resizing is not advised
[10:02] <Gevaudan82> magnet: i guess that would work...any other way? currently i'm assigning static ips based on DHCP
[10:02] <StoneNote> Gevaudan82, try dyndns.org its not what you are asking for but it's what you want
[10:02] <thomas> moparfan90: go to wine's irc channel. this has nothing to do with ubuntu.
[10:02] <nich0s> ladydoor, I would have bought a new mouse.
[10:02] <adamlaz> thanks all
[10:02] <Gevaudan82> StoneNote: currently i'm a subscriper to no-ip
[10:02] <magnet> Gevaudan82: yep, there are always other ways :)
[10:02] <StoneNote> same thing
[10:02] <ladydoor> nich0s: well, it's a laptop. also, now i like ratpoison/emacs/etc. better
[10:03] <magnet> Gevaudan82: 2 mins
[10:03] <backlit> ladydoor: that's interesting... when my mouse breaks, my first thought is not "learn emacs" lol
[10:03] <nich0s> rofl
[10:03] <backlit> ladydoor: but each unto his/her own :)
[10:03] <ladydoor> backlit: it wasn't my first thought...it just kind of eventually happened
[10:03] <adamlaz> thomas: will gparted work on windows?
[10:03] <backlit> lol
[10:03] <backlit> "emacs happens"
[10:03] <ladydoor> backlit: lol
[10:03] <magnet> Gevaudan82: make a backup of the resolv.conf you want (with the good DNS servers)
[10:03] <nich0s> backlit: Can I have your permission to put that in the quote book?
[10:03] <thomas> adamlaz: are you running windows right now?
[10:03] <ladydoor> backlit: it's kind of hard to explain the whole story
[10:03] <adamlaz> yeah
[10:03] <StoneNote> bachler, really? when the car broke I said "Time to pull out the vi manual"
[10:04] <thomas> adamlaz: the ubuntu installer has partitioning capabilities.
[10:04] <ladydoor> lol
[10:04] <superjew9021> thomas: how do i tell which one is the problem
[10:04] <magnet> Gevaudan82: then create a basic scripts which will cp resolv_good.conf to /etc/resolv.conf (and overwrite the one sent by your DHCP server)
[10:04] <maple_> a certain program won't work, why doesn't it?
[10:04] <Gevaudan82> magnet: the DNS server is the same server that is connected to the router, it's not a separate machine...
[10:04] <adamlaz> and i plan on ADJUSTING my existing partition to more suitable fit ubuntu
[10:04] <Gevaudan82> magnet: cool, i'll try this, thanks!
[10:04] <magnet> Gevaudan82: finally, in your interfaces file, just add to the good network device (eth0 or such) : post-up /path/to/myscript
[10:04] <Vegeta> It's an installation fra Desktop CD. Does it create the root partition later on by it self? Because I can't create it manually...?
[10:04] <adamlaz> the installer can do all that?
[10:04] <maple_> Y DOSENT IT WORK
[10:05] <Gevaudan82> magnet: i'm following you so far, but where is the interfaces file?
[10:05] <magnet> Gevaudan82: post-up allows to execute a command after the interface is up
[10:05] <dicesquirrel> question... I'm trying to install a Windows XP partition on my Ubuntu-only (at the moment) Dell Latitude D600 laptop. I've cleared away 10 gigs of space for it, but using "gksudo gparted" I can't add a partition for Windows to go on, as I cannot unmount a drive that's in use. How should I go about this?
[10:05] <magnet> Gevaudan82: /etc/network/interfaces
[10:05] <backlit> adamlaz: give it a shot, the ubuntu installer is really simple, but does everything you are trying to do
[10:05] <nich0s> The installer could tie your shoes if your computer has robotic arms.
[10:05] <maple_> dicesquirrel, you don't want M$ windoze
[10:05] <hondje> maple_: Allow me to psychically figure out what's wrong without error messages :p
[10:05] <adamlaz> alrighty, thanks again all
[10:05] <backlit> adamlz: it's not windows
[10:05] <magnet> Gevaudan82: and beware of the Beast :)
[10:05] <thomas> adamlaz: yes.. how would it install on a computer with a brand new hard drive if it couldn't partition.
[10:05] <AlienX> amyone use mimo wireless cards?
[10:05] <finalbeta> Following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780&highlight=temperature  ".Run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source. It is extacted below:" << where do I find the lm-sensors source?
[10:06] <thomas> finalbeta: google?
[10:06] <dicesquirrel> maple_, you're right, that's why I have Ubuntu. But I want a partition for a few windows only apps, like Half-Life and ZMud
[10:06] <rsa> Hi i have a apache2 server error, i restarted it Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name. Anyone got a sggestion howto fix?
[10:06] <backlit> rsa: that's a warning, not an error
[10:06] <Gevaudan82> magnet: just add it beneath the lines auto eth0 / iface eth0 inet dhcp or do i append it after dhcp
[10:07] <rsa> backlit, when i try to access it via my network connected laptop it doesnt show anything.. which might thing hold on
[10:07] <thomas> backlit: rapidfire respone ;D
[10:07] <finalbeta> thomas, after following the guide, where on MY SYSTEm
[10:07] <magnet> Gevaudan82: don't you have something like "up dhcpdns"
[10:07] <Gevaudan82> rsa: it's a harmless message but something i'd be interested to know too...it's on my todo list this afternoon
[10:07] <thomas> rsa: on the system running the server, go to http://localhost, and see if it works.
[10:07] <magnet> Gevaudan82: you could also remove this line to avoid getting the DHCP dns servers
[10:07] <Gevaudan82> magnet: nope, not in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:07] <Vegeta> Is there some expert who can help me on with a problem on partitioning through installation with Desktop CD?
[10:07] <backlit> rsa: it isn't a big deal, but if you want it to go away, you have to specify a ServerName directive in your httpd.conf
[10:07] <magnet> Gevaudan82: ok then put the postup on the line below after a Tab
[10:08] <backlit> thomas; i'm making a real effort here :)
[10:08] <Gevaudan82> backlit: i did that myself but it appears it actually has to be your hostname your server box is running not your arbitrary public domain name
[10:08] <thomas> backlit: yeah I can tell. you seem to have all the answers.....
[10:08] <backlit> thomas: i know a couple things... magnet has all the answers :)
[10:08] <Gevaudan82> magnet: i'll try that too, thanks
[10:09] <magnet> hehe :)
[10:09] <backlit> Gevaudan82: you might need to add a Listen directive as well, i haven't played much with Apache yet...
[10:09] <MrPants> looks like that didn't help at all
[10:10] <Gevaudan82> backlist: that's cool...in /etc/apache2/ports.conf i think it is I have Listen 80 Listen 443 but it must be something specific to the files in server-enabled
[10:10] <Martinp23> sorry - really newbie-ish question but im new to this :).  How do I get to the desktop from the command prompt I'm shown? Or do I need to do something else?
[10:10] <Gevaudan82> Martinp23: try startx
[10:10] <tomaczec> Vegeta: what prob?
[10:10] <magnet> Martinp23: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[10:10] <magnet> (if you have any of the *ubuntu-desktop packages)
[10:10] <dicesquirrel> No one can help me make a NTFS partition on this drive, using Ubuntu?
[10:10] <thomas> Martinp23: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart no ?
[10:11] <backlit> dicesquirrel: creating an NTFS parition from within Linux is not a great idea
[10:11] <Gevaudan82> dicequirrel: honestly, it's pretty easy to do it using fdisk...easier than gparted
[10:11] <ladydoor> dicesquirrel: you really should use a native windowz program, since linux's ntfs support is sketchy at best, what with it being top-secret software
[10:11] <backlit> dicesquirrel: best idea is to boot into XP and do it from there
[10:11] <Vegeta> On the GUI I can only create some forms of partition with a couple of different filesystem. How do I create the root partition?
[10:11] <hondje> thomas: using the ? means it'll start either gdm, xdm or kdm, depending on what is installed.
[10:12] <dicesquirrel> I can't boot into XP, it's not installed. I'm trying -to- install it.
[10:12] <ShastaMaroon> I'm trying to set up a wireless broadcom chipset...iwconfig already sees it as eth1.  Is there a graphical tool I can use to set it up?
[10:12] <magnet> Vegeta: the root partition has nothing more than being mounted on /
[10:12] <thomas> hondje: I did not know that. Thanks.
[10:12] <ladydoor> dicesquirrel: google fdisk livecd
[10:12] <Martinp23> ok thanks
[10:12] <hondje> :-)
[10:12] <tomaczec> linux is not _so_ bat (meanwhile) when it comes to ntfs.
[10:12] <tomaczec> s/bat/bad/
[10:12] <thomas> magnet: sorry :S
[10:12] <backlit> dicesquirrel: if you have free, unpartitioned space on the drive, the XP install CD will let you create the NTFS partition
[10:12] <magnet> thomas: for? :)
[10:13] <MrPants> i think i'm going to cry
[10:13] <thomas> dicesquirrel: be careful, as windows will wipe out your grub most likely.
[10:13] <backlit> dicesquirrel: but when you install XP, it will overwrite grub, and only boot windows, so you'll have to boot off the livecd and re-install grub on the mbr
[10:13] <backlit> damn you thomas :)
[10:13] <dicesquirrel> thomas: do you know if there's a wiki or something on this process?
[10:13] <thomas> backlit: not so quick now.
[10:13] <backlit> thomas: i typed more =P
[10:13] <Vegeta> magnet: So that means it would be created "by its own"? And what about the partition names? I can't change them either. They just get a default name like "New Partiton #1"...
[10:14] <backlit> dicesquirrel: the basic rule of thumb is "install windows first"
[10:14] <thomas> Vegeta: partition names in linux are not important. The point at which it is mounted is important.
[10:14] <magnet> Vegeta: huh, don't play with your root part in Gparted :) and the New Partition #1 is just temporary .. partitions are NOT named by you :)
[10:14] <magnet> the kernel names them
[10:14] <rc55> Hi, I've added 4 extra hard drives, added entries into /etc/fstab but only three appear in File Browser, any ideas?
[10:14] <ShastaMaroon> Is there a graphical tool I can use to configure a wireless interface?
[10:14] <dicesquirrel> backlit: well, that's not really an option at the moment.
[10:15] <thomas> rc55: does the 4th one have a filesystem installed?
[10:15] <rc55> thomas: yes, formatted ext3
[10:15] <Vegeta> Then why is stated serveral places that you can choose to have /usr, /var. /home and ect?
[10:15] <tomaczec> no rule of thumb... installing windoze will kill Linux by perpose.
[10:15] <tbaur`> you tell me ;)
[10:15] <backlit> dicesquirrel: i understand that, just remember that after you install windows you will have to re-install grub to boot back into linux, other than it's very simple, as long as you unpartitioned space, or a paritiion you can delete
[10:15] <thomas> rc55: you are positive you have it correctly named in fstab?
[10:15] <magnet> Vegeta: these aren't partitions names but mount points -- that's a totally different concept :)
[10:15] <dicesquirrel> backlit: how would I go about reinstalling grub?
[10:16] <thomas> backlit: he could also use the livecd to boot from first hard drive... would that boot linux?
[10:16] <rc55> thomas: can i paste the four lines from fstab to you personally?
[10:16] <ladydoor> !paste
[10:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:16] <Adam> any one got ubuntu running with a broadcom netextreme nic?
[10:16] <backlit> dicesquirrel: i forget, checking now....
[10:16] <thomas> rc55: as long as it's personally.
[10:16] <Adam> *nic
[10:16] <thomas> ladydoor calm yourself... he said "personally!"
[10:16] <Vegeta> aahh ok. So the root doesn't need a seperate mounts points? Is mounts points not the partition? :S
[10:17] <ladydoor> thomas: i'm calm...i'm suggesting that as an alternative because it's better to post where everyone can see so that anyone knowledgeble can give useful tips
[10:17] <thomas> Vegeta: the name of your drive is taken from the point in the / tree in which it is mounted.
[10:17] <Gevaudan82> magnet: your original suggestion was probally easiest and it worked...just tell my server to use a static ip and the DNS settings stick
[10:17] <magnet> Vegeta: the root (/) partition can't be changed in Gparted because you can only remount it in single-user mode .. and btw, why would you want to change your / ? it requires a good understanding of how the OS works
[10:18] <magnet> Gevaudan82: well, both work :)
[10:18] <backlit> dicesquirrel: grub-install /dev/hda (assuming hda is your boot drive)
[10:18] <tomaczec> all this legal departments... did anyone asked about the windoze installer?
[10:18] <rc55> thomas: it seems fine to me. i have to manually mount hde1 though using Discs Manager
[10:19] <Vegeta> I'm a newbie to this, so I thought that the root, was a partition where the linux kernel should be installed?
[10:19] <backlit> tomaczec: you see what i mean? i can't understand a word of that?!?!?
[10:19] <thomas> magnet: i have been trying to expand my root partition. I have adjoining freespace I want to take advantage of. Should I use the livecd, mount both partitions, and use gparted?
[10:19] <magnet> Vegeta: not always, some people make a /boot partition
[10:19] <Vegeta> Ok... Btw, isn't is there that I have to create the SWAP? By choosing Filesystem: linux-swap?
[10:19] <thomas> rc55: but it does mount..
[10:19] <dicesquirrel> backlit: at what point in the process should I use that command?
[10:19] <thomas> rc55: that is odd.
[10:19] <rc55> thomas: yeah, it mounts fine
[10:20] <tomaczec> backlit: i cant see.
[10:20] <magnet> thomas: you shouldn't try to expand your partition :)
[10:20] <magnet> thomas: you can't just "expand it"
[10:20] <dicesquirrel> backlit: after I install windows, when I boot from the Ubuntu install CD again?
[10:20] <backlit> dicesquirrel: once you want to be able to boot into linux, boot the livecd, then run that command
[10:20] <backlit> dicesquirrel: you got it
[10:20] <dicesquirrel> backlit: gotcha
[10:20] <rsa> Hi i have a apache2 server error, i restarted it Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name. Anyone got a sggestion howto fix?
[10:20] <rc55> thomas: should i post this to the forums instead?
[10:20] <thomas> magnet: even if I copy it's contents into a tar file, use the livecd to delete the root partition and create a larger root partition?
[10:21] <thomas> rc55: yeah ladydoor was right.
[10:21] <magnet> thomas: that you can do, but it's not "extanding", it's copying elsewhere and creating a new partition :)
[10:21] <thomas> rc55: post the link here.
[10:21] <backlit> magnet: are you going to be on later tonight (like 3-4 hours or so?)
[10:21] <magnet> thomas: tar files take some time, you may try to use cp -ar
[10:21] <Cunn> hello, I really don't know if this is the right place to ask for help, I'm a newbie to ubuntu and linux. Anybody can help me making my soundcard work? I've already tried every single howto I found. It's an Intel soundcard, snd-hda-intel drive, Toshiba laptop, harman-kardon speakers, newest alsa drivers installed... please...
[10:21] <thomas> magnet: i know, but I don't see any other way.
[10:21] <J_P> hey all, what is better processor if I install ubuntu for 32bits (not amd64) : P4 HT 2mb or P4 D HT 2mb ?
[10:21] <magnet> backlit: nope, it's already late here
[10:21] <backlit> magnet: cuz i want to pick your brain
[10:21] <backlit> magnet: i'll pick your brain later then :)
[10:22] <magnet> thomas: this is indeed the only way. the best way is to think of partitionn sizes at the install stage ;)
[10:22] <thomas> magnet: I could copy the whole tree to another drive, minus the drive's mountpoint. I have the room... would that work?
[10:22] <Gevaudan82> Does anyone happen to know how to generate certificates for dovecot? right now i have smtp auth/tls working fine but the certificate refers to my hostname on my lan not my public facing ip...i've done this for postfix already following a tutorial but i'm not sure where to begin on dovecot
[10:22] <magnet> thomas: yes
[10:22] <Adam> this processor I got says Intel EM64T supports 64 bit computing so can I use 64 bit linux operating systems?
[10:22] <thomas> magnet: i had a very small windows installation set up just in case for down the road... that was before I discovered vmware player.
[10:22] <backlit> i have always had great like with partition magic, but i have heard many horror stories about it destroying drives
[10:22] <tomaczec> i have a dream -> ibm says yes to foss.
[10:23] <Paddy_EIRE> is there anything that I can do in ubuntu to improve the performance speed/download rate of bittorrent
[10:23] <backlit> i once resized every partition on my winxp htpc inlcuding the active boot partition, and it worked fine
[10:23] <thomas> Paddy_EIRE: ubuntu goes full speed. your torrent might be slow.
[10:23] <Vegeta> magnet: Will the swap have to be created at that place? That is where I create the partitions?
[10:23] <magnet> thomas: but you should create a new / part, mount your old / to say /oldroot , mount the partition you want to copy the data to on /backup, and then cp -ar /oldroot/ /backup
[10:24] <magnet> thomas: or else the recursive goodness of cp may cause some problems :)
[10:24] <magnet> thomas: (the same goes with tar)
[10:24] <thomas> magnet: i could use a partition magic livecd i have.
[10:24] <magnet> Vegeta: what do you mean? you have to create the swap by yourself
[10:24] <thomas> magnet: i just remembered having it.
[10:24] <magnet> thomas: that's a solution, if you trust pqmagic :)
[10:24] <tomaczec> the man i dislike most: rms <-- and yes, that makes sense.
[10:25] <thomas> magnet: they haven't screwed me yet.
[10:25] <sam-sarnie> join #ubuntu_classroom
[10:25] <J_P> hey all, where I see list of packages the next realease of ubuntu ?
[10:25] <thomas> magnet: and I would still be copying the root to another drive just in case.
[10:25] <magnet> tomaczec: the people i dislike the most : so called free software / open source enthusiasts with an anti-rms stance
[10:25] <error> HI
[10:25] <thomas> J_P: google edge eft package tree.
 the file im getting has 189 seeders and 79 leechers my upload rate is set to 15 kbs and im only getting 3.17 download rate....I have a 1.1mb connection
[10:25] <Vegeta> magnet: Yes. At the installation process, you can choose to partition the hd manually, is it there where the swap has to be created?
[10:25] <J_P> thomas: what ?
[10:26] <magnet> thomas: well you've understood the basics, so go for it anyway ;)
[10:26] <J_P> thomas: one time there are the page in ubuntulinux.com
[10:26] <tomaczec> magnet: sorry for that.
[10:26] <magnet> Vegeta: if you do it manually, yes
[10:26] <thomas> J_P: google edge eft package tree.
[10:26] <thomas> edgy*
[10:26] <thomas> sorry.
[10:27] <sysdoc> good idea
[10:27] <magnet> and once the beer is empty, I'll be leaving (so if you had any question backlit, go for it :))
[10:27] <tomaczec> magnet: what about Linus' stand?
[10:28] <Vegeta> magnet: So how do I create /usr, /var, /home and ect..? Aren't they partitions?
[10:28] <error> there is some1 who knows nice games :(
[10:28] <magnet> tomaczec: I don't like it
[10:28] <lassegs> hello. i have a problem with my fglrx driver. I cant get openGL direct rendering and 3d acceleration to work. I've done this lots of times before with the same computer and the same dist, but now it just doesnt work. Please take a look at my xorg.conf and help me troubleshoot it. http://pastebin.ca/164634.
[10:28] <J_P> thomas: nothing thats links point to ubuntu page..
[10:28] <lassegs> I've been troubling with this for almost a month now, and noone wants to help me
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: they are not partitions, don't worry about them, the system will take care of it.
[10:28] <ChaosFan> Vegeta: these are directories and may thus be moint points for partitions
[10:28] <magnet> Vegeta: you could see them as partitions, but there are two different concepts here
[10:29] <thomas> J_P: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft
[10:29] <tomaczec> magnet: erm, yoou got an idea?
[10:29] <tomaczec> magnet: erm, you got an idea?
[10:29] <magnet> tomaczec: an idea on? :)
[10:29] <Neo8750> edgy is fun
[10:29] <J_P> thomas: ahh ! Now is ok :-)
[10:30] <jwl007> grr i think it is a fruitless attempt to get wireless working in dapper
[10:30] <thomas> Vegeta: Linux works like this, it is a tree. On the root partition is the folder /. inside the / folder is where all other partitions are located.
[10:30] <Fuzz> lol
[10:30] <ChaosFan> jwl007: depends... if your chipset is supported, then no
[10:30] <tomaczec> magnet: well... this clash in the idea about gpl.
[10:31] <jwl007> it supposedly is prism 2
[10:31] <magnet> tomaczec: as long as Linus does his kernel stuff, it's all good. I don't like it when he uses his notoriety for concerns he shouldn't speak about; and he's pretty lame with the GPL3, but anyway I'm not sure this is the right channel for such discussions :)
[10:31] <Vegeta> ok..
[10:31] <ChaosFan> Vegeta: that's also kind of wrong
[10:31] <error> maby there are some netherlands in here
[10:31] <thomas> Linus is a pimp though.
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> magnet: it most definately is not
[10:31] <ChaosFan> Vegeta: you have a directory tree, with / being the root
[10:31] <jwl007> i have a gateway wbm-120 pcmcia wireless nic, but i can't find any windows drivers that work for ndiswrapper
[10:32] <ChaosFan> Vegeta: and you may mount partitions to reside in any directory you desire
[10:32] <jwl007> the fcc-id was no help either
[10:32] <Vegeta> So where does all the stuff about partitions come in?
[10:32] <magnet> backlit: still around?
[10:32] <tomaczec> magnet: what #?
[10:32] <backlit> magnet: indeed
[10:32] <magnet> backlit: do you still need my brain? :)
[10:33] <ChaosFan> Vegeta: you have the option of partitioning your drive. to access these partitions, you have to mount them somewhere in your directory tree
[10:33] <magnet> tomaczec: don't know, #linux-trolls maybe? ;)
[10:33] <backlit> magnet: later, i'm taking off from work in like 10 min, i'll catch you later on
[10:33] <Aagni> hi all.. i've landed myself in a mess :(
[10:33] <magnet> backlit: i'm leaving very soon
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: /var /home /etc are all directories. You can *optionally* mount them in a separate partition, but most people new to linux have no need for htat.
[10:33] <J_P> thomas: sorry, but in taht page not show package list in Edgy... :-(
[10:33] <backlit> magnet: forever?
[10:33] <tomaczec> magnet: so -> how i should discuss it?
[10:33] <backlit> magnet: i plan to become a regular on this channel :)
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> !software > J_P
[10:33] <magnet> backlit: I don't know, I come and go ;)
[10:33] <finalbeta> lm-sensors doesn't show HD temps? Anyone knows a tools that can?  But it's also older than windows.
[10:36] <Fuzz> i was installing the fglrx drivers n stuff according to the guide and now everything got messed up
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> ChaosFan: don't use the word 'directory'. Use the word 'mount point'
[10:36] <Vegeta> Isn't a partition just a "piece" of the hd?
[10:36] <Fuzz> my ubuntu shell isnt working ryt
[10:36] <ChaosFan> fyrestrtr: directories _are_ mount points...
[10:36] <tomaczec> linus and rms suck... iimho
[10:36] <Vegeta> So what exactly is "mount point"..??? :S
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: partitions are logical divisions of a disk. They allow the operating system to create file systems.
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> ChaosFan: for our new windows friends, lets not confuse them ;)
[10:36] <ChaosFan> fyrestrtr: ok, ok ;)
[10:37] <magnet> Vegeta: it is the directory onto which you'll "mount" a partition
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: its a location where a device is attached.  You have to 'mount', that is, attach a device to a location on your system so you can access it. This location is called a mount point.
[10:37] <Vegeta> But we are talking about dividing the drive into pieces. Just like you would get C: and D: in windows if you divided the drive in 2 partitions.. right?
[10:37] <Jowi> Vegeta: a directory/folder where you mount something, such as a harddisk partition.
[10:37] <ChaosFan> fyrestrtr: the lecture i heard about operating systems has very nice graphs in it explaining that stuff... it's in german, though :-(
[10:37] <thomas> Vegeta: a mount point is a folder in the abstract / tree.
[10:38] <Jowi> Vegeta: like E: for the cd-rom drive in windows (not exactly but close enough)
[10:38] <thomas> Vegeta: instead of C: and D: you are able to decide where you want the contents of each partition AS A FOLDER anywhere in the / tree.
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: look it up in wikipedia :)
[10:38] <tomaczec> linus has a nice face/house, rms has a nice beard... the prob is -> they both do not rock when it comes to snowboarding... cuz snowboarders rock to death.
[10:38] <optimusprime> I just downloaded wine.....and I can't find it anywhere...
[10:38] <thomas> Vegeta: do you understand now??
[10:39] <Agni> need help with undoing some bastille mess
[10:39] <der0b> thomas: the problem I was having was that kde was theming gtk apps.  once I disabled that, Gnome stopped crashing on theme change.
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> optimusprime: you can just install it -- sudo apt-get install wine
[10:39] <Vegeta> ahhh.. So you can create partitions almost like you create folders???
[10:39] <der0b> thomas: (I used to be mds)
[10:39] <Agni> i cant get my X to start now
[10:39] <optimusprime> that's what I did
[10:39] <thomas> der0b: i figured. glad you fixed your problem.
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: no, not really. A partition and a folder are to different things. If you create a folder, you are not creating partitions.
[10:39] <thomas> der0b: i don't use KDE so I couldn't help you as much as i would have wanted.
[10:40] <ChaosFan> Vegeta: no, a partition is still the same thing as it is in windows.
[10:40] <Jowi> Vegeta: no, they are separate. you can create a partition then mount it to a folder of your choice
[10:40] <Agni> i just keeps trying to restart in a loop
[10:40] <der0b> thomas: maybe you know how I can convince gnome to change the font on the gnome menus?
[10:40] <Vegeta> fyrestrtr: I tried googling around, but it's hard to find something you know what is :P
[10:40] <thomas> fyrestrtr: i was explaining that the CONTENTS of each partition are displayed as FOLDERS anywhere you want inside the / tree.
[10:40] <Fuzz> uhm can someone help me?
[10:41] <thomas> der0b: in system/preferences/fonts
[10:41] <Vegeta> But can I create the partitions after the installation of ubuntu?
[10:41] <Fuzz> i was installing the fglrx drivers n stuff according to the guide and now everything got messed up
[10:41] <ChaosFan> Vegeta: you may if you have unused disk space
[10:41] <Jowi> Vegeta: you can for example mount your floppy to /media/floppy or /myfolder. in linux it doesn't make much difference. in windows the floppy is always A: or B:
[10:41] <der0b> thomas: yeah, I think kde might be messing with that too..  I'm ablt to change the fonts everywhere but the menu :(
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: look at it this way. Just like you create partitions in Windows, you create partitions in Linux. However, unlike Windows, there is no concept of 'drives'. When you create a partition, you don't get a letter like E: or G: -- a partition, in order for it to be accessible, must be attached to a location on the main tree. This location is called the mount point.
[10:41] <Fuzz> my ubuntu isnt working and i did loads of stuff to try to get it to work
[10:41] <Vegeta> WIth unused do you mean like when they say, unalocated?
[10:41] <ShastaMaroon> Has anyone been able to configure a broadcom 43xx wireless chipset?
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: it looks like a folder, but you need to give a name to a place where you will attach the partition, so its easier to access.
[10:42] <ChaosFan> Vegeta: exactly
[10:42] <thomas> Vegeta: Once you understand how the / tree works, you will have a much easier time using linux. Its a completely different concept from windows, and it will take some getting used to.
[10:42] <finalbeta> fyrestrtr, apparently lm sensors doesn't do the hd temps, need apt-get install hddtemp
[10:42] <nick_> does anyone know if edgy eft will have compiz and XGL enabled by default?
[10:42] <thomas> nick_: absolutely not.
[10:42] <joeljkp> so i'm new to bluetooth: do i need a passkey/pin for my bluetooth mouse?
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> nick_: nope.
[10:42] <thomas> nick_: compiz is alpha software.
[10:42] <corsair> Hey there.  Anyone know of a good fully featured bit torrent client that is not java based like Azureus (annoyingly cpu intensive).
[10:43] <Lysit> I've been looking for 4 hours corsair, the answer is no:(
[10:43] <thomas> nick_: and even if compiz were stable, not everybody has the graphics power to handle compiz.
[10:43] <magnet> corsair: I heard that utorrent is good
[10:43] <nick_> i think ive read somewhere that ATI 9000 and up will support 3D
[10:43] <Lysit> utorrent only runs through wine
[10:43] <thomas> later backlit.
[10:43] <magnet> I use btlaunchmanycurses ;)
[10:43] <corsair> Lysit: same here.
[10:43] <Jowi> thomas, nick_ : like me. C3 cpu with cle266 graphics :-/
[10:43] <corsair> isnt utorrent windows only?
[10:43] <Lysit> yup
[10:43] <wthww> hallo
[10:43] <Neo8750> how does one go about searching packages by the files the will install ?
[10:43] <thomas> nick_: ATI 9250 and up support compiz.
[10:43] <magnet> oh, I didn't know, I don't use it :)
[10:44] <enyc> Neo8750: hrrm well... for already installed packagess.. you can use dlocate
[10:44] <nick_> thanks thomas.....my laptop is usless :(
[10:44] <Neo8750> for not installed
[10:44] <enyc> Neo8750: install 'dlocate' and you well see what I mean
[10:44] <Lysit> flux-box would be perfect if I could get auto downloading from rss feeds:/
[10:44] <thomas> Neo8750: in synaptic, search by Provides...
[10:44] <corsair> i have it on my laptop and it rocks, just dont have the money to spend on cendaga to make it work in linux
[10:44] <Jowi> Neo8750: "dpkg -L packagename" will give you what it has already installed
[10:44] <Lysit> fluxtorrent I mean
[10:44] <Neo8750> k
[10:44] <enyc> Neo8750: i think you can do that for ubuntu official package repositories  via the  http://packages.ubuntu.com/ interface
[10:45] <mbvo> I'm trying to copy my files from my windows hdd to my linux hdd(/var/www) but it's telling me i don't have permisions to access that folder.  how do i do it from the terminal(I'm logged into the root account)?
[10:45] <thomas> mbvo: copy the contents into your home directory.
[10:45] <mbvo> i want the contents in the /var/www directory though
[10:46] <thomas> mbvo: use cp -R /path/to/windows /var/www running as root.
[10:46] <nick_> thomas: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Video_Card_Support_Under_XGL  it says ATI 9000 supported
[10:46] <Jowi> mbvo: if you are root or using sudo you should not get a permission denied error
[10:46] <thomas> nick_: it isn't. look on the compiz site.
[10:46] <Deeah> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/TGljnZ74.html , I tried to sudo apt-get buld-dep xchat-gnome, and it did not work. What is wrong?
[10:46] <mbvo> i got the error in not using the terminal
[10:47] <Vegeta> Ok, I think I understand little more now. So under the installation, when I choose automatically partition, and it gives me 2 partitions "partition #1 on /dev/hda as ext3" and "partition #5 on /dev/hda as swap", I can later add "subpartitions" under "partition #1". So if something goes wrong in one "subpartition" it can be "formated"???
[10:47] <corsair> nick_: I have read the same thing but its not true.  From what I gather you ineed a 9800 atleast.
[10:47] <lazzarello> is the recomended kernel rebuild process for ubuntu kernel-package?
[10:47] <thomas> mbvo: what does this error say?
[10:47] <nick_> thomas: is there anything i could do to make my desktop transparent and look cool?
[10:47] <Jowi> mbvo: that is normal. you should not use nautilus with root permissions
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: yeah, something like that.
[10:47] <[b] urk> hello
[10:47] <bary_> hey guys...i'am new to linux ...can any1 help me out with a problem?
[10:47] <corsair> what the problem bary
[10:48] <ladydoor> !anyone
[10:48] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:48] <Deeah> bary_: I don't think anyone can help you if you do not ask a question.
[10:48] <Jowi> bary_: give a full description and someone probably will
[10:48] <EVRAMP> bary_ just ask
[10:48] <rsa> y0 bitches
[10:48] <rsa>  got a question for y0
[10:48] <nick_> corsair: thanks for that info
[10:48] <ladydoor> !language
[10:48] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:48] <thomas> Vegeta: /dev/hda is point at which the partition is mounted. it is just a name for the partition. one partition will mount as /, the other will mount as /home.
[10:48] <corsair> np nick
[10:48] <tomaczec> bary_: i will look at you. tell me.
[10:48] <Neo8750> this channel makes me want to make my terminal window bigger
[10:48] <mjr> nick_, aiglx instead of xgl, though they're both experimental
[10:48] <bary_> i want to see the partition that use linux
[10:49] <bary_> i wanna get some music from there
[10:49] <Jowi> Neo8750: 903 users will do that to you ;)
[10:49] <eaglescout> Can somebody help me install a program?  I'm new and need help.
[10:49] <Vegeta> thomas: So basically I only have 1 partition (2 with swap)??
[10:49] <nick_> aiglx...isn't that mostly supported with nvidia drivers
[10:49] <Abst> Is it possible to make my box start in console mode (so I login using console as in Ctrl Alt F1) but then I can start xwindows from within?
[10:49] <thomas> bary_: can you elaborate?
[10:49] <mjr> nick_, no
[10:49] <Blissex> eaglescout: that is usually a not very good type of request...
[10:49] <[b] urk> im having problems writing to my fat-partition, i have mounted it with rw, but it still wont work :(
[10:49] <corsair> nick_: no, glx is for nivia aiglx is for ati
[10:49] <lazzarello> is the recomended kernel rebuild process for ubuntu kernel-package?
[10:50] <thomas> corsair no thats incorrect.
[10:50] <nick_> mjr: how hard is it to install that...is there a guide you know about
[10:50] <Jowi> bary_: "fdisk -l" in a terminal. you will see it clearly
[10:50] <eaglescout> okay, I just don't know how to install programs in Linux and it didn't come with instructions. -_-
[10:50] <Blissex> eaglescout: for two reasons: ask questions directly to the channel with details, someone may answer. 2) usually it is best to ask where to find information. Step-by-step is a bad idea.
[10:50] <burk> im having problems writing to my fat-partition, i have mounted it with rw, but it still wont work :(
[10:50] <corsair> really?
[10:50] <Blissex> eaglescout: ahhhh ok.
[10:50] <thomas> eaglescout: applications/Add/Remove
[10:50] <mbvo> how do i rename a folder? it's thinking the space in program files is the division between the perammiters
[10:50] <magnet> burk: mount it with the good gid
[10:50] <eaglescout> thanks
[10:50] <corsair> thomas: im just going by what Ive see.. it seems like aiglx is only mentioned in the howtos for ATI cards
[10:50] <morbid88> lupine_85: Man, I can't believe this.
[10:51] <bary_> thomas: sorry i got disconnected
[10:51] <Lysit> mbvo: from gui right lick then rename
[10:51] <Blissex> eaglescout: Ubuntu uses a system called APT, which you can use via various programs like the one mentioned by <thomas>. Or Synaptic or Aptitude or 'apt-get'.
[10:51] <Jowi> burk: you will need to add umask=000 to /etc/fstab
[10:51] <MrPants> mbvo: just move the folder into the same directory and change the name (if you're using command line)
[10:51] <thomas> corsair: will thats incorrect.
[10:51] <mbvo> rename option is greyes
[10:51] <mbvo> greyed*
[10:51] <bary_> thomas: look i've try this command but nothing happend gksudo gedit /etc/pmount.allow
[10:51] <tomaczec> 'adept'
[10:51] <Jowi> burk: like this "/dev/hda7       /media/windows      vfat    defaults,user,umask=000        0       0
[10:51] <Lysit> you might not have permission to change the name of that folder
[10:51] <morbid88> lupine_85: It's worse than I had thought. It's a combination 1D-10-T Rectal Cavity Between Chair and Keyboard ERROR.
[10:51] <thomas> !apt > eaglescout
[10:52] <corsair> thomas: is ther an advantage to using the aiglx instead? What the difference?
[10:52] <burk> Jowi, now it is umask=007, and i have another fat partition mounted in the exact same way, and that one works, but not this one.. ?
[10:52] <rsa> alright me biatches me got a little problemo:
[10:52] <Xpherebeast> anyone here? cuz i have major problem
[10:52] <magnet> Jowi: gid=46
[10:52] <MrPants> does anyone know how to fix LinuxDC++ slowdown??
[10:52] <thomas> corsair: it is my understanding aiglx works better with intel graphics chipsets.
[10:53] <burk> magnet, my gid is 44
[10:53] <corsair> thomas ah ok
[10:53] <finalbeta> I removed the bottom panel from the desktop, how can I place it back?
[10:53] <Xpherebeast> what is gid?
[10:53] <lazzarello> is the recomended kernel rebuild process for ubuntu kernel-package?
[10:53] <Xpherebeast> ah
[10:53] <jake1> i need some help with something
[10:53] <jake1> !pastebin
[10:53] <burk> magnet, sorry its is 46, youre correct
[10:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:53] <magnet> burk: aren't you in plugdev (46)
[10:53] <corsair> xpherebeast group id
[10:53] <Jowi> magnet: what is group 46 on your system?
[10:53] <Xpherebeast> well my ubuntu will not show correctly at startup
[10:53] <thomas> rsa: nobody is going to help you speaking like that.
[10:53] <morbid88> lupine_85: so just to let you know -- it had absolutely nothing to do with ipw3945. The manual listed it as such, but it only now occured to me to check which driver WINDOWS installed. And guess what -- it's something completely different! So I found the drivers and they work flawlessly.
[10:53] <magnet> all ubuntu users are in plugdev when you add them with the GUI
[10:54] <Xpherebeast> like its trying to boot agp but its pci
[10:54] <morbid88> !plugdev
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plugdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <MrPants> i've been trying to get help for more then an hour but nobody is really responding
[10:54] <OmniD_> Would anyone know how to install libtools
[10:54] <thomas> rsa: people are here answering questions because they are nice people. treat them likewise, and they'll be glad to help you.
[10:54] <nick_> ok thomas and corsair....i'll just keep to what i have and not play around w/ aiglx and XGL
[10:54] <Xpherebeast> please someone pm me and help me
[10:54] <burk> magnet, i am in plugdev, and the disk is mounted with gid 46, but i still dont have write-rights after doing mount-a
[10:54] <burk> mount -a*
[10:54] <rsa> alrighty than this is me problemo
[10:54] <thomas> nick_: hold on
[10:54] <rsa> * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server...                                   apache2: Could  * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server...                                   apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName* Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server...
[10:54] <thomas> nick_: what do you have
[10:54] <jake1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22945
[10:54] <rsa> can anybody help me with that?
[10:54] <thomas> !pastebin
[10:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:54] <jake1> read that terminal output
[10:54] <Seveas> rsa, that's harmless
[10:54] <nick_> i have ati mobility 9000
[10:54] <thomas> rsa post it to a pastebin.
[10:54] <jake1> i'm trying to get Wine to work
[10:54] <OmniD> !libtools > OmniD
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libtools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> rsa: that's not even a problem.
[10:54] <jake1> first it says something about freetype
[10:55] <Jowi> burk: umask=000 for vfat does it for me. on all users (maybe not what you want though)
[10:55] <Crazed> yea
[10:55] <corsair> nick_: it is alot of fun although I have to say it works great with nvidia cards.  Im using a FX5600 ultra and it is super nice
[10:55] <magnet> burk: is the mountpoint chmod g+w?
[10:55] <jake1> and then it mentions my Xserver
[10:55] <Xpherebeast> pm me to help me please
[10:55] <rsa> seveas: well apache2 doesnt work becuz of it
[10:55] <thomas> !package libtools > OmniD
[10:55] <Seveas> rsa, no
[10:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package libtools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <thomas> grr...
[10:55] <rsa> realy it doesnt work
[10:55] <Seveas> if apache doesn't work, then that has another reason
[10:55] <corsair> nick_: its a cheap card
[10:55] <rsa> when i logon i get that
[10:55] <mzelem> does anyone know how to test a serial port and see if it's working?
[10:55] <bary_> !thomas help
[10:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thomas help - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <rsa> nothing els
[10:55] <Xpherebeast> My geforce 6800 gs and ubuntu do not mix
[10:55] <nick_> corsair: i have it in my laptop, i can't swap it
[10:55] <bary_> thomas ...
[10:55] <Xpherebeast> what do i do
[10:56] <thomas> bary_: don't bother. ubotu and I aren't getting along.
[10:56] <Seveas> Xpherebeast, buy ati
[10:56] <jake1> any ideas of what is happening
[10:56] <rsa> seveas what could it be than?
[10:56] <Xpherebeast> lol
[10:56] <Xpherebeast> no
[10:56] <thomas> Seveas: thats right!
[10:56] <Xpherebeast> i like nvidia
[10:56] <Neo8750> woohoo i got it
[10:56] <rsa> seveas: what could it be than?
[10:56] <Seveas> rsa, given that you don't give any information, i don't know
[10:56] <corsair> nick_:  I feel your pain.  i have a broadcom wireless on my laptop.. makes it useless in linux
[10:56] <rsa> well, seveas what information do you ned about my problem?
[10:56] <Seveas> corsair, bcm43xx works pretty decent
[10:56] <Xpherebeast> can someone help me please>?
[10:56] <mzelem> does anyone know how to check to see if serial ports are recognized by ubuntu?
[10:57] <Seveas> rsa, /var/log/apache/error.log on a pastebin
[10:57] <nick_> corsair: hahaha don't get me started with wireless...such a pain
[10:57] <corsair> Seveas not for me... i have tried about every tutorial I can find on the ubuntu forums and nothing works..
[10:57] <Xpherebeast> direct is better anyway
[10:57] <dimitri> hi all
[10:57] <Seveas> corsair, do you have a 4318?
[10:57] <Xpherebeast> hi
[10:57] <zombieJr> Hiya
[10:57] <Xpherebeast> dimitri can you help me?
[10:57] <zombieJr> anyone know a good IM client for LiNuX=
[10:57] <zombieJr> ?
[10:57] <corsair> Seveas ya 4318
[10:57] <Lattyware> Anyone here know anything about the Xbox version of Ubuntu (xUbuntu, but not *that* xUbuntu)
[10:57] <dimitri> i have a partitioning query
[10:57] <Seveas> Xpherebeast, would you please stop repeating....
[10:58] <magnet>  zombieJr: gajim
[10:58] <jake1> can someone help me please?????
[10:58] <thomas> Lattyware: I have not heard of this. Sounds interesting.
[10:58] <Seveas> corsair, yeah, bcm43xx won't work with that - you need ndiswrapper
[10:58] <magnet> zombieJr: good client for good protocol :)
[10:58] <rsa> hold on please serveas, im using cli
[10:58] <zombieJr> i see
[10:58] <rsa> how do you copy a file?
[10:58] <zombieJr> gajim
[10:58] <burk> magnet, i did sudo chmod g+w /media/mellom, but no luck
[10:58] <Jowi> jake1: have you looked at the wine wiki?
[10:58] <Jowi> !wine
[10:58] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:58] <corsair> seveas, ya been trying to avoid that.. and cant figure out how to get WPA to show up in the network dialog anyway
[10:58] <Lysit> Lattyware "the" Xbox version or "a" xbox version
[10:59] <burk> magnet, it still shows as owner: root group: root
[10:59] <zombieJr> magnet: im gonna try it out, thx man
[10:59] <magnet> burk: have you umount/remount the disk yet?
[10:59] <jake1> yes i have
[10:59] <thomas> corsair: you need wpasupplicant
[10:59] <rsa> hold on please serveas, im using cli. How do i use a file?
[10:59] <nick_> corsair: im using a netgear card with net8180 driver b/c for some reason linksys cards don't work
[10:59] <Seveas> corsair, standard network dialog doesn't do wpa, you need network-manager
[10:59] <Lattyware> thomas: It is, just I can't get my it to work. Doesn't seem to do anything, I'm presuming it hasn't set up my xbox controlller. And I am too lazy to get out my USB -> XBX cable to test with a mouse and keyboard.
[10:59] <Lattyware> Lysit: I'm presuming the.
[10:59] <wikijeff> How can I see what version of Gnome I'm using?
[10:59] <Jowi> jake1: and #winehq ?
[10:59] <corsair> thomas: i know.. it shows installed in synaptic but doenst show up anywhere
[10:59] <rsa> seveas: hold on please, im using cli. How do i use a file?
[10:59] <Seveas> wikijeff, system  about gnome
[10:59] <jake1> no... didn't know the # existed
[10:59] <Subhuman> wikijeff, system-about gnome
[10:59] <jake1> i'll go ask there i guess
[10:59] <rsa> seveas: hold on please, im using cli. How do i use a file?
[11:00] <burk> heh, thanks magnet ;)
[11:00] <thomas> Lattyware: the linux kernel has support for xbox controllers. Go to the project site for x-xubuntu.
[11:00] <magnet> burk: solved?
[11:00] <corsair> Seveas: humm ill have to look for that... do you happen to have a tut link with instructions for that.
[11:00] <burk> yeah, i can write now
[11:00] <Lysit> Lattyware: Think I found it http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/XUbuntu
[11:00] <Xpherebeast> How do i get ubuntu to boot the desktop normally with a pci express card?
[11:00] <thomas> !wpa
[11:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:00] <Seveas> corsair, apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[11:00] <magnet> burk: k all good, np :)
[11:00] <Amro> When installing, I get xserver-org resolution select menu. no matter what i select when i click continue (or go back) it flashes then returns to the same menu. Anyone know what's wrong?
[11:00] <Seveas> and reboot (that's the easiest way to start it)
[11:00] <Lattyware> Lysit: Sorry, What?
[11:00] <burk> magnet, somehow i managed to think that it remounted when i wrote mount -a ;)
[11:00] <wikijeff> thanks, is it possible to upgrade to gnome 1.6 now that it's released?
[11:01] <magnet> burk: hehe :)
[11:01] <Lattyware> I know the Xbox Linux site... I don't get the relevance?
[11:01] <corsair> Thanks!  Ill start on that then.
[11:01] <Lattyware> To my current situation.
[11:01] <Subhuman> wikijeff, yes if you compile it yourself, if your a new linux user i wouldnt suggest doing it.
[11:01] <mcphail> wikijeff: gnome 1.6 isn't the latest version :)
[11:01] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys how do i change the theme of the panels is there a name for them??
[11:01] <Seveas> wikijeff, 1.16 you mean and you should wait a few weeks and then upgrade to Ubuntu edgy
[11:01] <thomas> Lattyware: this irc channel is for ubuntu being installed on computers. Xxubuntu is variant of ubuntu, and you should seek help from them.
[11:02] <wikijeff> Seveas: ok, thanks
[11:02] <Seveas> thomas, this channel supports ubuntu, kubuntu edubuntu and xubuntu...
[11:02] <thomas> Lattyware: nobody in here is running ubuntu on their xbox right now I can almost guaruntee it. It is not a good place to find help.
[11:02] <mcphail> wikijeff: Seveas: 2.16
[11:02] <Lattyware> Yeah, I was just checking to see if it was a really common problem that everyone knew about, quickly.
[11:02] <thomas> Seveas: apparently he's found a project to install xubuntu on his xbox.
[11:02] <Seveas> mcphail, ah... indeed
[11:02] <thomas> Seveas: but the controller isn't working.
[11:02] <nzx> hey, how do i enable sounds in kopete ?
[11:02] <Xpherebeast> Seveas can you help me?
[11:02] <Seveas> Xpherebeast, no
[11:03] <Seveas> you didn't ask a questio
[11:03] <Seveas> n
[11:03] <Xpherebeast> i asked like 3 times
[11:03] <nzx> found it
[11:03] <Xpherebeast> but i will again
[11:03] <tomaczec> are you sure about what this channel is?
[11:03] <Amro> When installing, I get xserver-org resolution select menu. no matter what i select when i click continue (or go back) it flashes then returns to the same menu. Anyone know what's wrong?
[11:03] <Seveas> Xpherebeast, that was before I joined the conversation i think
[11:03] <Xpherebeast> oh
[11:03] <thomas> Seveas: this channel is not supporting an xbox version of ubuntu is it?
[11:03] <Seveas> thomas, no
[11:03] <Jowi> Amro: what exactly are you running?
[11:03] <Seveas> xboxes are not supported at all by Ubuntu
[11:03] <thomas> Seveas: i asked him to seek help at that project's website or irc.
[11:03] <Seveas> (though it may work)
[11:04] <nich0s> Hey all, is there anyway for me to have a different background for my workspaces?
[11:04] <Amro> im installing ubuntu 6.06
[11:04] <Seveas> nich0s, with gnome: no
[11:04] <flasher> how can i tell if the opera deb build I've most recently installed is from static or from shared-qt?
[11:04] <Xpherebeast> My ubuntu will not boot the desktop normaly it shows funky lines and stuff, when i run the cd the same thing happens unless i select 1024x768, how do i get it to boot normal?
[11:04] <thomas> Lattyware: however, if you can get it installed, by all means come back and share with us.
[11:04] <magnet> flasher: ldd on the binary
[11:04] <Lysit> Seveas: Neither are toasters, but find one that can run an OS and someone will try and install ubuntu on it:p
[11:04] <Seveas> flasher, look at its dependencies
[11:04] <nich0s> seveas: What environment would you recommend?
[11:04] <flasher> magnet: what's ldd?
[11:04] <Seveas> Xpherebeast, select 1024x768
[11:04] <Seveas> nich0s, gnome
[11:04] <flasher> magnet: i may have deleted the.deb already
[11:05] <Lysit> Lattyware try using SSH to install it, it says its supported f2orm the Xubuntu site
[11:05] <Jowi> Amro: installing 6.06 from which media? resolution is easiest changed with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:05] <thomas> nich0s: i'd pick gnome or xfce
[11:05] <Lattyware> Seveas: Some people have made a distro, designed to run on an Xbox, which is made out of Ubuntu, edited to run on an xbox. I know this channel is not for Xbox support, but if someone knew quickly, then it would have helped.
[11:05] <Xpherebeast> but how do i do that when i boot normally there is no selection for it?
[11:05] <flasher> Seveas: how do  i see the dependencies?
[11:05] <Jowi> !install
[11:05] <magnet> flasher: I said the opera binary
[11:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:05] <Lattyware> I was just asking in case.
[11:05] <magnet> flasher: not the deb
[11:05] <Lattyware> I allready have it installed onto my xbox.
[11:05] <flasher> magnet: ok. how do i ldd the binary?
[11:05] <Seveas> Lattyware, true, but with 900 people it's busy enough without xboxes  good luck though!
[11:05] <magnet> flasher: you find the opera binary (updatedb && locate opera) then you ldd it
[11:05] <Seveas> flasher, apt-cache depends opera
[11:05] <Amro> Jowi: im installing from the alternate CD. im not trying to set the res its part of xserver-org config
[11:05] <magnet> flasher: ldd opera
[11:05] <thomas> Lattyware: no harm in trying, but as far as your controller not working, chances of finding the answer in here are slim to none.
[11:06] <nich0s> sudo apt-get install xfce
[11:06] <nich0s> whoops
[11:06] <bary_> thomas can you help me please?
[11:06] <Lattyware> I've been using the Xbox version of damn small linux for ages, and I thought i'd try the xbox ubuntu, as I use it on my desktop.
[11:06] <Fuzz> uhm hi, i just got the fglrx drivers to work, but it screwed up my dualmonitor
[11:06] <Fuzz> could someone help me with that?
[11:06] <Jowi> Amro: if you have problems, chose the vesa driver and the native resolution of your monitor. that should be safe
[11:06] <thomas> Lattyware: Come back if you can fix your problem. Write a guide in the forums. Share with us.
[11:06] <reitzell> I've got to pull a bunch of (viso) files off a web server. what ap can I use to do this?
[11:06] <thomas> bary_: whats up?
[11:06] <Lattyware> Will do.
[11:06] <Jowi> Amro: the rest can be changed after you get rid of the screen flicker.
[11:07] <eyequeue> reitzell, man wget
[11:07] <flasher> magnet: updatedb: fatal error: You are not authorized to create a default slocate database!
[11:07] <magnet> flasher: sudo it
[11:07] <Xpherebeast> severas how do i select 1024x768 when there is no selection for it?
[11:07] <eyequeue> flasher, sudo
[11:07] <Amro> Jowi: i'm only getting resolutions. It wont go past the step. Its not the whole screen flashing, it switches to the progress bar then back to the menu. I know im using safe resolutions
[11:07] <bary_> thomas: i have 2 hards on my pc one with linux and one with window... and i one get some music and music from my other hard the one with window
[11:07] <bary_> thomas: windows
[11:07] <reitzell> I want to grab the entire site
[11:07] <eyequeue> reitzell, man wget
[11:07] <reitzell> thousands of files
[11:07] <thomas> barry_: let me help you privately.
[11:08] <Jowi> Amro: what options do you get if you go back a step?
[11:08] <erUSUL> reitzell: wget -r --no-parent url
[11:08] <tomaczec> reitzell: for what reason?
[11:08] <Amro> jowi: nothing happens, same as if i hit continue
[11:08] <nich0s> kde is just ugly and slow, isn't it?
[11:08] <flasher> Seveas: i did the apt-cache depens opera command and here is the printout: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22947. please confirm that it is what i think it is, namely shared
[11:08] <Amro> seems more like a glitch. i restarted the install, just asking in case it happens again
[11:08] <cello_rasp> how i chek for updates/patches thru the commandline?
[11:08] <reitzell> I have to move a bunch of network topologie maps from an old server to a new sharepoint
[11:09] <thomas> nich0s: some may say that. Other people love KDE.
[11:09] <bie-cool> hi
[11:09] <bie-cool> lam knal
[11:09] <Jowi> Amro: what kind of hardware do you have? you could try to reboot and specify to disable the framebuffer to see if that helps.
[11:09] <thomas> nich0s: but KDE is a bit more bloated than Gnome or Xfce are.
[11:09] <tomaczec> reitzell: no reason
[11:09] <Seveas> flasher, correct
[11:09] <flasher> thanks
[11:09] <reitzell> yeah the old site is going away and the data needs to be on the new share
[11:09] <eyequeue> cello_rasp, sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:10] <sp0rk> nich0s, i'm gonna agree with you man.
[11:10] <Amro> Jowi: I've installed breezy on this machine before. Shouldn't it be capable?
[11:10] <jake1> all that chrooting for nothing yesterday
[11:10] <nich0s> thomas: I left windows for the bloat and the tendency to crash every other week
[11:10] <jake1> apparently Wine doesn't need chroot on dapper 64-bit
[11:10] <mopflite> does wine need chroot anywhere?
[11:10] <Jowi> Amro: reboot the install cd that is. and type in the option to disable framebuffer. Yes, if breezy worked this install should go fine as well. what hardware have you got (motherboard + graphiccard)?
[11:10] <thomas> nich0s: gnome is fairly minimal compared to windows or KDE.
[11:11] <thomas> mcbary: i'm trying to help you...
[11:11] <thomas> mcbary: doesn't help if you change your name.
[11:11] <Amro> its a laptop, presario 2700t. dunno the specifics but it has an ati mobility
[11:11] <nich0s> thomas: How would I go about aquiring and installing xfce
[11:11] <tomaczec> badger is released to the trees,,, he likes to groom there.
[11:11] <thomas> nich0s: install xfce-desktop
[11:11] <ACU> how do you start apache server ?
[11:11] <mopflite> nich0s: modern gnome combines functionality with a fairly minimalist approach in some ways - I switched to dapper/gnome recently after four years of using suse with blackbox, and am quite delighted with it
[11:11] <Adam> service start httpd
[11:12] <thomas> ACU: install apache, then /etc/init.d/apache start
[11:12] <Adam> sorry service httpd start
[11:12] <fildo> ACU:  sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[11:12] <mopflite> in contrast, I can't get on with kde these days - far too cluttered and bloated for my taste
[11:12] <Jowi> Amro: ok. that's strange. no errors just a blinking screen nomatter if you chose back or continue?
[11:12] <Adam> and GAH thats for redhat
[11:12] <nich0s> mopflite: Thanks for the insight :)
[11:12] <Adam> you can tell what I have resorted to using ;)
[11:12] <mcbary> thomas:i've register this nick so i can talk with you on private
[11:12] <sp0rk> nich0s, if you really don't want bloat, install ion
[11:12] <fildo> is it apache2 ?
[11:12] <nich0s> thomas: it says I don't have it
[11:12] <fildo> ok
[11:12] <nich0s> sp0rk: ion?
[11:12] <thomas> ACU: what fildo said, my apologies.
[11:13] <reitzell> looks like wget will work. Thanks!
[11:13] <Amro> Jowi: yes. as i said it mmight be a glitch. it seems to accept the settings then still asks for them again. which is why im reinstalling to see if it happens again, though i asked here in case it was a common problem
[11:13] <mopflite> wget rocks
[11:13] <Lysit> Awww, azureus won't keep running if you stop gnome:(
[11:13] <sp0rk> nich0s, its an extremely minimalistic window manager
[11:13] <Jowi> Amro: this is only a guess... wifes laptop had an acpi issue. try to disable that during before setup at the boot menu.
[11:13] <flasher> ok, i have used the shared_deb of opera build before. but i forgot if i used 6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb or 5-shared-qt_en_i386.deb. can anyone help?
[11:13] <eyequeue> Adam, what dir is this "service" command in?
[11:13] <sp0rk> nich0s, so minimalistic that windows don't exist - it uses frames.  It can be a VERY efficient work environment
[11:14] <tomaczec> fildo: how you define 'kde klutter'?
[11:14] <Jowi> Amro: think you should add "pci=noacpi" or something similar
[11:14] <sp0rk> nich0s, http://www.modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/
[11:14] <cslater> will folks be offended if I put up a link to some news about my site - instalinux.com ?
[11:14] <mcbary> thomas: you will help on channel or on privat?
[11:14] <thomas> mcbary i already said privately.
[11:14] <cslater> we just released a vmware appliance that lets you tweak settings and run a local version
[11:14] <thomas> i'm trying to help right now.
[11:14] <Adam> eyequeue its for redhat enterprise ignore me I was thinking of a diffrent distro
[11:14] <Amro> Jowi: add it where?
[11:14] <Jowi> Amro: at the boot prompt
[11:15] <mcbary> thomas: i dont get any message on privat
[11:15] <eyequeue> Adam, ah, i was trying to track it down here
[11:15] <Amro> er prompt? i get gfxboot
[11:15] <thomas> mcbary, then privately message me.
[11:16] <Jowi> Amro: you should have some menu options, graphically or text should not make a difference
[11:16] <thomas> mcbary: follow this link. It is the best help you will get.
[11:16] <thomas> !samba
[11:16] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:16] <Jowi> Amro: check at the bottom of the screen when the cd boots
[11:17] <Amro> yeah i remember there was an advanced option
[11:17] <Amro> but i cant do that now im reinstalling... if it fails again ill try
[11:17] <abo> is there a way in the open file dialog of gtk to show previews of pictures?
[11:18] <tuxtux> ciao
[11:18] <grimboy> Hey hey!
[11:18] <Lysit> As seen as azureus doesn't continue running when I stop Gnome display manager is there another bittorrent client that supports downloading torrents from RSS
[11:18] <Jowi> Amro: even if it does not work now and all you get is a login prompt after the installation finishes. remember "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:18] <Boudewijn36> ktorrent
[11:19] <Lysit> for gnome?
[11:19] <Lysit> or is it CLI as well?
[11:19] <nozorro> abo: some apps have this in their dialogs, gimp for instance
[11:19] <grimboy> Lysit, rtorrent with a little python script would do the job.
[11:19] <Lysit> Alas, I don't know python
[11:19] <grimboy> Lysit, (or lang of choice)
[11:20] <grimboy> shell scripting?
[11:20] <Amro> thanks Jowi. im used to that from installing vcards :) thanks for all your help
[11:20] <Lysit> no
[11:20] <abo> nozorro... I'm using firefox and need to upload a file the dialog is the OS default... I'm wondering if there is a way around having to browse to the location with nautillus to view
[11:20] <grimboy> Why do you need to be able to download torrents without running firefox.
[11:20] <grimboy> I mean gnome
[11:21] <mcbary> thomas: looks pretty easy but i dont have root access
[11:21] <grimboy> (Brain fart)
[11:21] <Lysit> no gnome=more ram, 70 megs worth infact
[11:21] <Jowi> no probs Amro, a few wierd laptop installs has made me soft ;) usually it comes down to acpi or framebuffer. i bet acpi in your case.
[11:21] <superjew9021> can someone help me i am using wine to run steam but when it gets half way through the initial update it gives me this message: ERROR unable to open Steam.exe for reading (copying)
[11:21] <nich0s> thomas: How do I get and install xfce?
[11:21] <cslater> going to go ahead and post this... hope no one gets mad
[11:21] <cslater> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Instalinux_now_offers_a_custom_Linux_installation_VMware_appliance
[11:22] <Boudewijn36> heh
[11:22] <nozorro> abo: firefox to upload?
[11:22] <lhds> hey there i need to split a folder containing 40 gega to 4.7 gega archive files how to do that? is there a software under linux?/gnome?
[11:22] <nich0s> Any one... where can I get xfce and how do I installing once I have it?
[11:22] <abo> nozorro, yes .. like to attach file (photo) to email
[11:22] <superjew9021> can anyone help me
[11:23] <cslater> lol nich0s
[11:23] <cslater> lhds - use the split command
[11:23] <Bluhd> I've got a problem with autoconf/automake
[11:23] <grimboy> nich0s, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[11:23] <Bluhd> whenever I run aclocal, I get this error:
[11:23] <cslater> tar it up into one big tarball and then use split on it
[11:23] <Bluhd> macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library
[11:23] <fuzzyNeedsHelp> how do i install dualmonitor on ubuntu?
[11:23] <nozorro> abo: with firefox. you sending a link? i'm confused
[11:23] <administrator> !xinecinema
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinecinema - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <PathagenX> xinerama
[11:24] <administrator> fuzzyNeedsHelp: xinerama
[11:24] <administrator> !xinerama
[11:24] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[11:24] <nozorro> abo: you mean thunderbird perhaps?
[11:24] <administrator> fuzzyNeedsHelp: there you go
[11:24] <administrator> look at that link
[11:24] <abo> no firefox, to webmail
[11:24] <nich0s> YAY, grimboy, you are the winner :)
[11:24] <abo> nozorro,  no firefox, to webmail (like gmail)
[11:24] <fuzzyNeedsHelp> thank you administrator
[11:25] <administrator> fuzzyNeedsHelp: you are most welcome
[11:25] <abo> nozorro,  no firefox, to webmail (like gmail)  ... you click on "browse" .. you get the dialog ...
[11:25] <grimboy> Woo! Do I get a cookie?
[11:25] <PathagenX> nich0s, do you mean that you want to email some links to someone?
[11:25] <administrator> PathagenX: thanks i have not been here in a while so i am a little rust
[11:25] <administrator> rusty*
[11:25] <nich0s> PathagenX: Umm... wrong person?
[11:25] <nozorro> abo: ah stupid me, never used webmail. :-) -- well use the file manager then for pict previews
[11:25] <nich0s> grimboy, The bot does.
[11:25] <nich0s> !bottreat
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bottreat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <PathagenX> administrator, could you change your name? It is a bit misleading
[11:26] <nich0s> grrr
[11:26] <OskarS> i'm trying to install Ubuntu (running livecd right now), but everytime I try, the installation stops at 22%. Can anybody help?
[11:26] <tomaczec> how do i make Ubuntu fly airplane... really not.
[11:26] <Bluhd> anyone here: I'm having a serious problem regarding development
[11:26] <grimboy> Heh...
[11:26] <Bluhd> I can't run aclocal without getting macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library
[11:26] <administrator> PathagenX: this is a registered nick
[11:26] <nich0s> !botsnack
[11:26] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:26] <Bluhd> er
[11:26] <Bluhd> "macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library"
[11:26] <grimboy> Woo.
[11:26] <mopflite> OskarS: that is a common problem - you might want to try the alternate cd
[11:26] <PathagenX> tomaczec, BSD would be better for the wardware in the plane but if you can get an Apache, they are all AMD and Ubuntu will work fine
[11:27] <Jowi> Bluhd: do you have libtool installed?
[11:27] <Bluhd> Jowi, yes
[11:27] <PathagenX> *hardware
[11:27] <OskarS> mopfilte: download from the homepage?
[11:27] <Bluhd> Jowi: latest version too
[11:27] <ACU> how to start phpMyadmin (or rather where to configure it so I can start it)
[11:27] <nich0s> grimboy: Woo, indeed.
[11:27] <grimboy> OskarS, Choose the one that says alternative rather than desktop.
[11:27] <mopflite> OskarS: the alternate cd uses the old textial installer, and seems to work in many instances where the graphical installer used by the livecd fails (as was the case with the machine I am running now, in fact)
[11:28] <Jowi> Bluhd: try running "sudo ldconfig" and see if you still get that error
[11:28] <OskarS> mopflite, grimboy: thanks!
[11:28] <grimboy> What he said
[11:28] <mopflite> OskarS: kind of, but you need to look for it specifically - what area are you in geographically?
[11:28] <OskarS> stockholm
[11:28] <OskarS> swedeb
[11:28] <mopflite> ok
[11:28] <mcbary> how can i log in as root??? i need access to modify a file
[11:28] <LinuxHelp> What is, a real gooood ftp client, that supports recursive directory searching?
[11:28] <administrator> mcbary: use sudo
[11:28] <Bluhd> Jowi: still getting the error
[11:28] <nich0s> mcbary You can use the sudo command to run an editor as root
[11:29] <grimboy> mcbary, I've got a comic, wait a sec.
[11:29] <administrator> mcbary: sudo gedit file
[11:29] <mopflite> OskarS: http://ftp.du.se/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ - the alternate cds are listed there
[11:29] <nozorro> mcbary: or gksu for graph. apps
[11:29] <tomaczec> nich0s: they dont know 'root'.
[11:29] <OskarS> mopflite: thank you
[11:29] <Jowi> Bluhd: "libtool --version" give you what? 1.5.22?
[11:29] <mopflite> select the correct one for your architecture of course
[11:29] <grimboy> mcbary, http://xkcd.com/c149.html
[11:29] <OskarS> well, obviously ;)
[11:29] <Bluhd> michael@Ubuntu:~$ libtool --version
[11:29] <Bluhd> ltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 1.5.22 Debian 1.5.22-2 (1.1220.2.365 2005/12/18 22:14:06)
[11:29] <nich0s> tomaczec: ...?
[11:29] <grimboy> mcbary, That explains it all.
[11:30] <Jowi> Bluhd: what are you trying to compile?
[11:30] <Bluhd> Jowi: anything that uses automake/autoconf
[11:30] <Jowi> Bluhd: ouch
[11:30] <Bluhd> Jowi: one of my old projects that used to work fine will now give me that error
[11:30] <juan> im trying to run some software but im not sure what this means "To be able to access the programs without problems, you will have to edit the login file for your shell. If you use the C shell, this file is called .cshrc or .tcshrc, and it is located in your home directory." could some1 please explain what i should do?
[11:30] <tomaczec> nich0s: dont ask me. it's ubuntu
[11:30] <nich0s> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:30] <nich0s> tomaczec: YAY ubuntu
[11:30] <nich0s>  :P
[11:30] <FRET> hey al
[11:30] <pheonix> hey all
[11:30] <mcbary> sudo: gedit: command not found
[11:30] <Jowi> Bluhd: you got build-essential installed as well?
[11:31] <TooCooL> can someone please help me..i removed some kind of bar or whatever its called from my panel..it was the 1 which showed icons..example i open limwire it has an icon on the panel..but now i dont have that so when i close a program down it is just minimizing to the panel but i dont see the icon to close it
[11:31] <nich0s> mcbary: Use nano :)
[11:31] <Bluhd> Jowi: yup
[11:31] <godmaster> hello i have a problem with "usplash"
[11:31] <administrator> mcbary: you can also do : sudo nano file
[11:31] <lhds> split is not working
[11:31] <grimboy> juan, The file you want to edit is ~/.bashrc
[11:31] <OskarS> thanks for the help guys
[11:31] <administrator> godmaster: what kind of problem
[11:31] <grimboy> juan, (Probably)
[11:31] <nano-lover> I love NANO
[11:31] <Jowi> Bluhd: "whereis libtool" is giving you the correct paths?
[11:31] <TooCooL> can someone please gelp me its reckon my head
[11:31] <TooCooL> help*
[11:32] <Bluhd> libtool: /usr/bin/libtool /usr/bin/X11/libtool /usr/share/libtool /usr/share/man/man1/libtool.1.gz
[11:32] <grimboy> It's like emacs and vim except for not bloated crap!
[11:32] <Bluhd> jowi: just posted the results
[11:32] <godmaster> i dont know how to replace the default boot spalsh screen
[11:32] <nano-lover> grimboy: Cheers to that. And it's mighty quick too! :)
[11:32] <TooCooL> grimboy,  can u help pls
[11:32] <Jowi> Bluhd: looks fine.
[11:32] <administrator> godmaster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomization
[11:32] <grimboy> TooCooL, Hmm... Right click then click add stuff
[11:32] <nano-lover> godmaster... that is the strangest ... take that back... one of the strangest nicks in exsistance.
[11:32] <TooCooL> ok
[11:32] <Jowi> Bluhd: maybe your program expects a specific version...?
[11:32] <mcbary> guys please any1 can help? i'm new to linux...just installed
[11:33] <TooCooL> im jus not sure what i need to add to panel
[11:33] <grimboy> TooCooL, Then find the icony thing
[11:33] <TooCooL> to show program icons
[11:33] <Bluhd> Jowi: no, it cfan't be that
[11:33] <sethk> grimboy, nano-lover it makes no sense to compare two programs with totally different goals.
[11:33] <administrator> godmaster: that link should be correct if my memory is correct
[11:33] <TooCooL> lol whats it called
[11:33] <Bluhd> Jowi:  Anjunta IDE will automatically generate stuff like configure and make.am
[11:33] <nozorro> TooCooL: Notification Area?
[11:33] <grimboy> sethk, Yeah I know, I'm just kidding.
[11:33] <Bluhd> Jowi: and it fails through the IDE too
[11:33] <nano-lover> mcbary, You can use the command 'sudo nano <filename>'
[11:33] <cybercyst> i have a question about spellchecking... i am running english and installed the aspell, ispell and myspell spanish modules, how do i get them to work in various programs? gtk, xchat, abiword, etc?
[11:33] <TooCooL> nozorro, vty so much mate that fixed it
[11:33] <TooCooL> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:33] <sethk> cybercyst, you don't.
[11:33] <nano-lover> sethk: But it's fun :P
[11:34] <godmaster> yhks administrator
[11:34] <Jowi> Bluhd: anjuta never been stable for me. can't comment on that one :-/
[11:34] <juan> thank grimboy
[11:34] <godmaster> where are y from ?
[11:34] <tomaczec> Anjuta sucks... use vim
[11:34] <grimboy> mcbary, You didn't read the comic, it explains the syntac
[11:34] <TooCooL> nozorro, i just didnt know what it was called lol
[11:34] <cybercyst> sethk, you can't use english and spanish spell checking at the same time?
[11:34] <grimboy> *syntax
[11:34] <nano-lover> There was a comic?!?
[11:34] <Bluhd> tomaczec: I like graphical editors, not text mode ;)
[11:34] <sethk> cybercyst, you can in the open office word processor, but I don't see how to do it with the others
[11:34] <nozorro> TooCooL: np
[11:34] <grimboy> nano-lover, http://xkcd.com/c149.html - sudo - the comic
[11:34] <TooCooL> :)
[11:35] <tomaczec> BlueEagle: you lack.
[11:35] <cybercyst> sethk, i couldn't get it going in oo either... i even followed all the directions that the wizard threw at me
[11:35] <gnomefreak> tomaczec: this is not the place for your opinion on apps.
[11:35] <rixxon> any ideas how to run mirc 6.2 on wine? "bad exe format"
[11:35] <nano-lover> grimboy, is that your LJ? may I steal the pic?
[11:35] <Jowi> Bluhd: i test anjuta every 6 months or so. random crashes and failed compiles has made me... ummm... uncertain about it.
[11:35] <grimboy> nano-lover, Not mine, but it's CC
[11:35] <sp0rk> rixxon, apt-get install xchat
[11:35] <Bluhd> Jowi: Ah. What would you recommend?
[11:35] <sethk> cybercyst, do spell check, go into the configuration (i'll look up what the menu says), and add a dictionary
[11:35] <nano-lover> grimboy grrr to them... grr I say!
[11:36] <Jowi> Bluhd: anyway, does it compile if you do it manually?
[11:36] <grimboy> nano-lover, No CC is good, you just have to say where you got it from.
[11:36] <rixxon> sp0rk: using irssi and wouldn't switch for anything thank you. just want to do some testing
[11:36] <Bluhd> Jowi: what do you mean manually? do you mean just run gcc with the file?
[11:36] <grimboy> nano-lover, Friendly licence
[11:36] <sp0rk> rixxon, ahhh ;)
[11:36] <sethk> cybercyst, when you do spell check off the tools menu, a dialog comes up.  click on options
[11:36] <nano-lover> grimboy Ok then... :)
[11:36] <Amro> bluhd: more likely make
[11:36] <Jowi> Bluhd: for example
[11:36] <Jowi> make
[11:37] <Amro> bluhd: chances are you have to sudo ./configure first, dunno what you're trying to compile though
[11:37] <afm\colo> why would you run configure with root permissions?
[11:37] <afm\colo> that's remarkably stupid
[11:37] <tomaczec> i agree to rsm... i dont care too much. off.
[11:38] <Amro> oops typed sudo make first then didnt remove sudo
[11:38] <cybercyst> sethk, ok and i added a spanish dictionary under there, and it is selected
[11:38] <Jowi> Bluhd: sorry for leaving you hanging in the dark. need to sleep atm. it's been a looooong week for me.
[11:38] <afm\colo> well, you're not supposed to run `make` in root's context, anyway ;)
[11:38] <sethk> cybercyst, if a word is in that dictionary, it will not show up as mispelled
[11:38] <afm\colo> the "install"-target justifies use of sudo
[11:38] <Bluhd> Jowi: the compile doesn't work any more because I'm missing some sort of file called ".debs/interface.pp" but that's probably something anjunta autogen'd
[11:38] <TooCooL> anyone update there gnome...if so did u have compiz etc all installed before the update.,..and did it effect it
[11:38] <Amro> afm: i dont care about the specifics. gimme a breal
[11:39] <Amro> break
[11:39] <grimboy> TooCooL, I installed compiz, but then it updated and everything broke.
[11:39] <TooCooL> grimboy, ohh ok that sux
[11:39] <TooCooL> lol
[11:39] <misieq> i have to cut out a piece of html from a website, starting with specific text and ending with specific text... what tool would be best to do that?
[11:39] <TooCooL> i will jus wait for edgy so
[11:39] <afm\colo> Amro: well, you're free to get fucked over at some point in the future
[11:39] <juan> ive added a line ( setenv PATH /usr/bin/:${PATH}". ) as a guide told me to, now when i launch the termincal i get ( bash: setenv: command not found ) as a 1st line
[11:39] <Jowi> Bluhd: sounds like it. does it help you to create a new/empty project and see if *that* works?
[11:39] <afm\colo> i don't enjoy educating the foolish, so "have it your way"
[11:39] <grimboy> afm\colo, Don't be an dick.
[11:39] <Bluhd> Jowi: I'll try it.
[11:39] <Amro> afm: leave me alone k, i made a mistake oooooo big huge fucking deal
[11:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[11:40] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:40] <grimboy> Amro, That's what /ignore is for.
[11:40] <TooCooL> will edgy be better with compiz..as in more stable?
[11:40] <afm\colo> TooCooL: depends on upstream compiz development
[11:40] <TooCooL> hmm
[11:40] <nano-lover> grimboy: This site is funny.
[11:40] <afm\colo> but genereally speaking, it most probably will ;)
[11:40] <ompaul> Amro, chill the langage thanks
[11:40] <whazilla> high
[11:40] <juan> misieq from the html? surely any text editor will do.
[11:40] <whazilla> i kinda messes up my /etc/environment
[11:40] <Amro> sorry
[11:41] <root_> hey guys i just installed ubuntu but when gnome loads i cant see anything...its all just weird covers, im using a nvidia card
[11:41] <TooCooL> anyone got a nice skinned gui and has SS?
[11:41] <whazilla> so how do i restore ... i goot from rescue dvd
[11:41] <root_> is there anyway to force it to be vga mode or something?
[11:41] <grimboy> nano-lover, Yeah it's one of my favourite webcomics now.
[11:41] <Bluhd> Jowi: the initial autogen.sh failed
[11:41] <whazilla> but can't seem to mount my hda in write permission
[11:41] <juan> root_,  have u installed nvidia drivers
[11:41] <misieq> juan: console tool. to autmate the process. i'm smart enough to figure out how to use text editor, if i wanted to use one i woudn't be asking here, eh?
[11:41] <root_> juan: the cd installed it
[11:41] <Jowi> Bluhd: so I wouldn't trust anjuta for anything if i were you :P
[11:41] <sethk> Amro, did anyone mention that you made a mistake ?   :)
[11:42] <Amro> hm?
[11:42] <TooCooL> anyone know if theres a channel for ppl who are into skinning?
[11:42] <afm\colo> whazilla: mount -o remount,rw /dev/whatever
[11:42] <whazilla> so i can't login using gnome or any other session
[11:42] <LinuxHelp> TooCooL, alive or dead?
[11:42] <mcbary> can any1 help me on privat? i really dont know what do i have to do
[11:42] <sethk> Amro, never mind
[11:42] <TooCooL> hahahaha
[11:42] <whazilla> when i choice xterm session
[11:42] <TooCooL> no seriously doh
[11:42] <whazilla> i get a broken bash
[11:42] <juan> !nvidia
[11:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Root did livecd work for you or did you use alternate cd
[11:42] <sethk> mcbary, what to do about what?
[11:43] <root_> i used the alternative cd
[11:43] <TooCooL> LinuxHelp, u know any?
[11:43] <whazilla> now how do i mount my hda1 on ubuntu live rescue dvd with write permission ?
[11:43] <sethk> whazilla, mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /some/mount/point
[11:43] <whazilla> thkx
[11:43] <root_> i cant start X so i dont know how i would check that site :/
[11:43] <LinuxHelp> TooCooL, no sorry
[11:43] <sethk> whazilla, assuming hda1 has an ext3 file system on it.
[11:43] <TooCooL> kk
[11:43] <whazilla> :D
[11:43] <root_> im in console now
[11:43] <sethk> whazilla, the mount point can be any empty directory
[11:43] <whazilla> i used -fd
[11:44] <whazilla> *fs
[11:44] <sethk> whazilla, ok, I guess ... :)
[11:44] <root_> anyway to start x with vga mode?
[11:44] <Jack_Sparrow> root_:   Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off acpi = no (Solves no mouse problem) pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet
[11:44] <Jack_Sparrow> root_: to name a few
[11:44] <Jowi> bye all. time to hit the sack
[11:45] <Bluhd> Jowi: What do you recommend now? Any way to generate some arbitrary aclocal file?
[11:45] <root_> thanks
[11:45] <grimboy> Jowi, Bye.
[11:45] <Bluhd> Bye jowi
[11:46] <Jowi> Bluhd: i think your build environment are messed up. purge + reinstall build-essential is my bet (but i'm no expert in this). good luck.
[11:47] <apecat> hmm, is it just me or does the last.fm submitter in the latest ubuntu packaged version of amarok not work?
[11:47] <harleypig> is there a how to on how to compile 32 bit apps under 64 bit?
[11:47] <yohan> !nvidia
[11:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:48] <sethk> harleypig, you just need to use a cross compiler
[11:48] <sethk> harleypig, you can build the compiler to run in the 64 bit environment and build 32 bit code
[11:48] <Gevaudan82> Does anyone know how to create non self signed certificates for dovecot? i've tried just about everything and the apt-get version of dovecot does not come with the openssl dovecot wrapper
[11:48] <afm\colo> -m32 would be the switch for gcc
[11:48] <harleypig> I'm just trying to get a 32 bit mplayer so I can play some wmv9 files
[11:48] <sethk> harleypig, the 32 compiler would run in the 64 bit environment, but you would have trouble telling it which libraries to link
[11:49] <OmniD> !diff > OmniD
[11:49] <sethk> harleypig, if all the libraries for 32 bit are available, you can use a command line switch with the compiler
[11:50] <harleypig> so, where I would do dpkg-buildpackage with a switch?
[11:51] <afm\colo> harleypig: mplayer (or rather ffmpeg) from svn can play WMV9DMO just fine
[11:51] <afm\colo> without any binary deps
[11:51] <fuzzyNeedsHelp> hmm well that didnt work lol
[11:51] <QMario> Also, where can I post my current programming projects?
[11:52] <harleypig> so, dl the ffmpeg library from svn and compile from there?
[11:52] <MeTa[AwAy] > by eall yoo 8
[11:52] <harleypig> where is the ffmpeg svn?
[11:52] <afm\colo> harleypig: check mplayerhq.hu
[11:52] <afm\colo> there are snapshots available as well
[11:52] <harleypig> thanks
[11:52] <Neo8750> is ti going to make it?
[11:52] <Neo8750> lets hope
[11:53] <harleypig> it's the first link on google for ffmpeg svn :]
[11:53] <mbvo> is there some tutorial that would tell me how to do the basics in linux terminal(create directories, copy file, delete files, move files, etc.)?
[11:53] <WD_Raptor> hello
[11:53] <WD_Raptor> I have Ubuntu 6.06 LTS x64 and I get an error Kernal Panic!
[11:54] <sethk> WD_Raptor, what triggers the error?
[11:54] <WD_Raptor> nothing
[11:54] <whazilla> sethk some error on mount ... unable to read superblock
[11:54] <KrakensDen> mbvo, there are lots :)
[11:54] <WD_Raptor> I select start or install and it says that
[11:54] <mbvo> where?
[11:54] <wthww_> hallo
[11:54] <WD_Raptor> live CD
[11:54] <sethk> whazilla, that sounds like it isn't the correct file system type.  you are using -t ext3?  are you sure it is ext3?
[11:54] <harleypig> hmmm ... I can obviously just do a ./configure && make && make test && sudo make install ... but is that the best way to do this?
[11:55] <KrakensDen> mbvo, http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/ <- looks good
[11:55] <afm\colo> harleypig: checkinstall is your friend
[11:55] <KrakensDen> mbvo, if you run into specific problems, google is your friend
[11:55] <yohan> !mplayer
[11:55] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[11:55] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[11:55] <whazilla> sethk it's a loopback
[11:55] <whazilla> i thought formatted ext3
[11:55] <WD_Raptor> what isi wrong wih my Distro
[11:55] <harleypig> afm\colo: I see it in apt-cache search, what is it?
[11:55] <bluefox83> i need a quick command to make a random sound play on my freind's computer...
[11:56] <OmniD> libtools problems yadda yadda
[11:56] <whazilla> but i installed as loopback
[11:56] <OmniD> hehe loopback
[11:56] <yohan> !codec
[11:56] <CromagDK> whazilla: can be ur cpu or mb not supported... checked for HW support of ur HW ?
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <afm\colo> harleypig: can create debian, slackware and rpm packages from make-targets installing stuff
[11:56] <CromagDK> !codecs
[11:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:56] <yohan> !codecs
[11:56] <CromagDK> :P
[11:56] <WD_Raptor> hola!
[11:56] <whazilla> the system runs from the loopback so why wouldn't it be supported ?
[11:56] <CromagDK> oh
[11:57] <harleypig> afm\colo: Ok ... got it installed and reading manpage ...
[11:57] <xopher> how can I compile a non-debian source code with pbuilder?
[11:57] <CromagDK> read it as laptop hah
[11:57] <WD_Raptor> help!
[11:57] <whazilla> i'm just wondering howto mount it so i can restore th error i created
[11:57] <sethk> whazilla, it's not unsupported, that's irrelevant
[11:58] <Jack_Sparrow> WD_Raptor: Did you have the cd do it's self test for errors
[11:58] <whazilla> k borg
[11:58] <sethk> whazilla, don't go off on a tangent.  Did you answer my question about ext3?
[11:58] <bluefox83> how do i test an alsa installation?
[11:58] <sethk> whazilla, a loopback mount is used with a file, not a partition
[11:58] <whazilla> it was formatted a loopback on ext3
[11:58] <WD_Raptor> Helo? I am getting a kernal panic. pLEASE hELP
[11:58] <sethk> whazilla, wait.  it is either hda1, or a loopback.  not both.
[11:58] <whazilla> it ask me on install
[11:58] <whazilla> all i said was
[11:58] <bluefox83> i just need a quick command like aplay  > /dev/dsp or something
[11:58] <whazilla> yes install on loopback
[11:58] <nozorro> WD_Raptor: try alternate CD to install
[11:59] <nozorro> !alternate
[11:59] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[11:59] <whazilla> so my system raw then ?
[11:59] <WD_Raptor> not installing
[11:59] <WD_Raptor> live
[11:59] <Storkme> where are the default icons of clearlooks located??
[11:59] <Jack_Sparrow> WD_Raptor: Did you have the cd do it's self test for errors
[11:59] <whazilla> is ther a way to find out ?
[11:59] <sethk> whazilla, so it isn't hda1?  why did you say it is hda1?
[11:59] <bamzin> hi there. i'm having some trouble when trying to run any flash movie/animation/youtube video on my firefox. when a page has a flash the browser suddenly close without noticing.. im using dapper drake, anyone can help me?
[11:59] <whazilla> i only got one hdd i figured it Wanderers it
[11:59] <whazilla> and i can mount it read only
[11:59] <sethk> whazilla, if it is a loopback, it isn't an hd at all
[11:59] <harleypig> afm\colo: Ok ... make: *** No rule to make target `config.mak'.
[11:59] <sethk> whazilla, you have to figure out whether you have a disk or not
[12:00] <harleypig> Looks like a neat package
[12:00] <harleypig> if I can make it work.
[12:00] <whazilla> k forget the loop ... how do i figur the sys tipe fs ?
[12:00] <sethk> harleypig, did you do ./configure?
[12:00] <whazilla> harleyg ?
[12:00] <harleypig> oh ... I have to run configure first ...
[12:00] <lostinc> can anyone tell me what dock this is in this screenshot and maybe where to get it? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=41507&file1=41507-1.jpg&file2=41507-2.jpg&file3=41507-3.jpg&name=Cold+Plastic