[05:35] <carpediem> neotard: tried, it doesn't support that either, only ext2
[05:35] <sivanicon> ill try that
[05:35] <rredd4> Hobbsee hoping I could transfer files from 23 kernel to 25 kernel
[05:35] <ardchoille> sivanicon: :20:32:46: < cwillu> sivanicon: single user mode will give you a root prompt
[05:35] <dooglus> carpediem: ext2 and ext3 are much the same
[05:35] <carpediem> SurfnKid: its the graphical installer that ships with dapper.
[05:35] <neotard> carpediem:  hmm, maybe a corrupted installation cd?
[05:35] <Munchkinguy> The alpha version of GNASH has recently been released. It is already in the debian package repository.
[05:35] <carpediem> dooglus: No, they aren't.
[05:35] <Munchkinguy>  I think that it should be put in the Ubuntu universe repository, but I'm not sure how to request it.
[05:35] <SurfnKid> capgadget: yep, crashed on me once, but it was a DVD error
[05:35] <sivanicon> ardchoille how do i boot into single user mode?
[05:35] <Hobbsee> rredd4: just install the same files, for the newer kernel...the drivers stay the same
[05:36] <Hobbsee> Munchkinguy: which package?
[05:36] <neotard> carpediem:  yes, they are.  dooglus is right.  ext3 is ext2 with a log, basically
[05:36] <carpediem> neotard: no, others on various websites have noticed this.
[05:36] <dooglus> carpediem: ext3 is ext2 with journalling bolted on as an afterthought.
[05:36] <neotard> dooglus:  hehe
[05:36] <cwillu> time to drown my sorrows in a game of pingus
[05:36] <ardchoille> sivanicon: hit the ESC key during a reboot. Then, once root, you can edit your sudoers file with visudo
[05:36] <sivanicon> thanks!
[05:36] <dooglus> ardchoille: ESC during reboot?  what does that do?
[05:36] <ardchoille> sivanicon: don't reinstall, that's easily fixed.
[05:36] <carpediem> neotard, dooglus: if you don't understand that a journaling filesystem and a non-journaling filesystem aren't "nearly the same" then I don't know what to say.
[05:36] <Munchkinguy> Hobbsee: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/utils/gnash
[05:37] <Hobbsee> Munchkinguy: if it's in debian, it should be in edgy in the next couple of weeks
[05:37] <cwillu> dooglus: accesses the grub boot menu
[05:37] <ardchoille> dooglus: brings up the boot menu to allow selection of a diff kernel
[05:37] <SurfnKid> grub, :( couldnt get my splash screens going
[05:37] <SurfnKid> anyone know how to
[05:37] <dooglus> carpediem: ext2 and ext3 use exactly the same structure.  you can mount an ext3 filesystem as ext2 and it works fine.
[05:37] <neotard> carpediem:  actually, compare reiser or jfs to ext3.  there's a big diff.
[05:37] <Munchkinguy> It's a like a Free version of Macromedia Flash.
[05:37] <Hobbsee> Munchkinguy: no, wait, it's only in experimental...hmm..
[05:37] <dr_willis> backwards compatiablity
[05:38] <Hobbsee> Munchkinguy: sounds good.  trying to remember where you request that sort of thing
[05:38] <SurfnKid> i resize everythin 640x480 14colors save to xpm. then gzip to gz but grub cant read it
[05:38] <carpediem> dooglus, neotard: ugh...well, anyway, not the point of what I'm getting at anyway.  Dapper install CD seems to have one major bug.
[05:38] <xzcvczx> whats the package to install for suns jdk?
[05:39] <neotard> carpediem:  sounds like it :(  only install cd I have is breezy badger, haven't checked out the dapper dragon cd, just did dist-upgrade.
[05:39] <Munchkinguy> xzcvczx: sun-java5-jdk
[05:39] <neotard> is there a bug reporting tool on the site?  I'm new to ubuntu :)
[05:39] <carpediem> neotard: as did I with most of my systems....but this is a laptop that had something else on it.
[05:39] <xzcvczx> Munchkinguy: cheers
[05:39] <neotard> carpediem:  debian ftw ;)
[05:40] <dooglus> neotard: bugs go to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[05:40] <Munchkinguy> xzcvczx: have fun
[05:40] <carpediem> neotard: actually fedora....which is why I'm trying to put dapper on it asap.
[05:40] <xzcvczx> Munchkinguy: ??? is it in apt-get?
[05:40] <Munchkinguy> yes, it's in multiverse
[05:40] <neotard> carpediem:  there you go, what dooglus said
[05:40] <Hobbsee> Munchkinguy: [13:40]  <bddebian> Have them request a sync/merge from Experimental
[05:41] <xzcvczx> Munchkinguy: its says package not found
[05:41] <farous> xzcvczx: add the multiverse repos
[05:41] <Munchkinguy> xzcvczx: Have you enabled the Multiverse repository?
[05:41] <carpediem> dooglus, neotard: yeah....looked there a bit ago....seems I need to file a report.
[05:41] <ardchoille> xzcvczx: do you have multiverse enabled?
[05:41] <neotard> carpediem:  ugh!  I gave up on RH with the mother's day edition :)
[05:42] <xzcvczx> someone want to tell me how to do that (its not my box i am just trying to get sun on it)
[05:42] <carpediem> I do find bug #1 entertaining though
[05:42] <ardchoille> neotard: lol
[05:42] <Munchkinguy> What is bddebian?
[05:42] <neotard> that isn't entirely true.. I did buy RH4 just to support an opensource company
[05:42] <carpediem> neotard: Fedora was only there as a trial...and it failed.
[05:42] <Munchkinguy> carpediem: Not entertaining... depressing
[05:43] <ardchoille> Can I change the resolution on tty1-6 simply by adding "vga=791" to menu.lst or do I need something more?
[05:43] <dooglus> carpediem: is this your bug? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/45397
[05:43] <sivanicon> dooglus feels good to be an admin again, thanks
[05:43] <dooglus> carpediem: bug #1 has been there for ages, and it's still not fixed!
[05:43] <carpediem> dooglus: no, but thanks for looking.
[05:43] <neotard> ardchoille:  if that's the right mode, it should work if you're adding it to the kernel line
[05:43] <Munchkinguy> xzcvczx: Go to System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager
[05:43] <ardchoille> neotard: Thank you
[05:44] <neotard> ardchoille:  granted, I haven't configured the terminal res in like.. hmm, years :)
[05:44] <neotard> ardchoille:  oh wait, it should go after append iirc
[05:44] <xzcvczx> Munchkinguy: unfourtunately dont have physical access to the box
[05:44] <ardchoille> neotard: it's the right mode, I just needed to know if framebuffer support is compiled into the Dapper latest kernel
[05:44] <kditty> can anyone help me with an ipod problem? im using gnome dapper and i loaded my ipod in gtkpod and updated it and the program crashed, now i cant read my ipod or add or remove any files
[05:44] <carpediem> dooglus: here's another guy with the exact problem, and 10 comments saying "Me too" Failed to create a file system:  http://justinsomnia.org/2006/06/giving-ubuntu-another-go-with-dapper-drake/
[05:44] <neotard> something like append vga=#### (whatever the modes are)
[05:45] <dooglus> ardchoille: I'm not sure that it is.  It was in breezy, but not dapper
[05:45] <neotard> ardchoille:  oh, no clue
[05:45] <ardchoille> guess I'll find out soon enough
[05:45] <neotard> ardchoille:  it won't work if the support isn't there, right?  just ctrl-alt-del :p
[05:45] <Munchkinguy> xzcvczx: In the terminal, type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:46] <neotard> ardchoille:  I've been meaning to look into terminal FB support
[05:46] <xzcvczx> Munchkinguy: cheers i have never touched ubuntu before or really any apt-get based linux
[05:46] <ardchoille> neotard: me too
[05:46] <MacJunky_PDQ> hi
[05:46] <merty> hello MacJunky :P
[05:46] <dooglus> neotard: I've tried adding the vga= line, but it makes my virtual terminals go into 'black-on-black' mode
[05:46] <Cube-ness> hey.. are there older versoin of packages available somewhere? like, can i use apt/synaptic to install older versions of python, etc?
[05:46] <PowerPC> :o
[05:46] <HellDragon> hey MacJunky_PDQ
[05:46] <ardchoille> neotard: I'm gonna check it out, brb
[05:46] <dooglus> neotard: they still work, but everything's invisible
[05:46] <Munchkinguy> xzcvczx: After that, just "uncomment" the lines that say "universe" and add the word "multiverse" after each of them
[05:47] <MacJunky_PDQ> hi merty and PowerPC ;)
[05:47] <neotard> dooglus:  hmm, maybe a terminal config issue?  or an unsupported resolution
[05:47] <wthww> hi rooom
[05:47] <merty> what does rm -rf / do?
[05:47] <merty> i typed it and i got errors.
[05:47] <carpediem> kditty: have you tried unplugging the ipod and plugging back in?
[05:47] <neotard> merty:  it screws you over
[05:47] <carpediem> kditty: and, may I suggest giving banshee a try...it works with the IPod quite well.
[05:48] <farous> merty it forces the remove of whatever is after it
[05:48] <neotard> merty:  well, it would as root or using sudo :p  it removes the root directory, recursively and forcefully
[05:48] <valehru_> Hey guys, got disconnected....did anyone answer my question, how can I change the colour of the text in the menus,. Application, Places, System?
[05:48] <michael___> Anyone know how to access 3ddesktop??
[05:48] <neotard> merty:  essentially you'd be removing everything on all mounted, writeable partitions :)
[05:48] <SurfnKid> michael___: type 3ddesk on a terminal if its installed
[05:48] <michael___> k
[05:49] <PowerPC> RTFM
[05:49] <PowerPC> lol
[05:49] <therumble> ooboontoo is teh sweet man
[05:49] <kditty> carpediem, i tried unplugging and connecting again, seems like thats when the problem started. when i plug it in and try to run gtkpod it give me an error about the ipod.db file.
[05:49] <nickrud> hexes PowerPC
[05:49] <SurfnKid> michael___: if its not installed 'sudo apt-get install 3ddesk'
[05:49] <farous> valehru_: try system>pref>font do not kow of the colour though
[05:49] <carpediem> merty: in other words, don't type in commands that people tell you to without knowing what they do.
[05:49] <merty> ok
[05:49] <PowerPC> i only told him ifconfig :p
[05:49] <kditty> the ipod is formatted under windows carpediem, could that be the problem?
[05:49] <farous> have a question why ws the packag gnome-conf-editor hidden from the menus?
[05:49] <neotard> the MAN command is your friend :)
[05:49] <therumble> i'm so proud of myself, i figured out how to dual-boot windows xp and ubuntu
[05:49] <therumble> yay
[05:49] <valehru_> farous, nope, no colour there
[05:49] <valehru_> therumble, well done...
[05:50] <carpediem> kditty: no, in fact that's good
[05:50] <therumble> yay
[05:50] <neotard> "man rm" will provide wonderous volumes of information ;)
[05:50] <carpediem> kditty: if you format it under Mac, you can't read it in Linux
[05:50] <Cntryboy> anyone know the command to see if this (((((  PyGtk-2 ))))) is installed on my system?
[05:50] <michael___> Daemon started.  Run 3ddesk to activate.
[05:50] <michael___> admin@ubuntu:~$ 3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[05:50] <michael___> 3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting.
[05:50] <michael___> Whats wrong??/
[05:50] <neotard> Cntryboy:  did you look into synaptic? :)
[05:50] <farous> Cntryboy: aptitude search pygtk
[05:50] <Cntryboy> thanks
[05:51] <carpediem> kditty: but I don't know about the db error.
[05:51] <kditty> carpediem, the files i deleted were gone, and the files i added are there, so i know that gtkpod did the job. also how do i go about disconnecting my ipod safely instead of unplugging it?
[05:51] <nickrud> michael___, you need to enable your three D accell, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:51] <Munchkinguy> Hobbsee: What is bddebian?
[05:51] <farous> Cntryboy: by default package names are small letters
[05:51] <michael___> k
[05:51] <Cntryboy> if nothing comes back does that mean I don't have it?
[05:51] <Hobbsee> Munchkinguy: a dev
[05:51] <rob138> hi, i am going to compile and install amarok beta 1.4.1, should i remove the packaged install before hand?
[05:51] <nickrud> michael___, if you have a card not mentioned here, come back
[05:51] <carpediem> kditty: well, I don't think you have to umount a USB device like on Windows.
[05:51] <farous> Cntryboy: if it has i before the package name then it is installed. otherwise you need ot install it
[05:51] <Hobbsee> rob138: dont bother, we've already got packages for it
[05:51] <nickrud> *there
[05:51] <carpediem> kditty: But I could be wrong
[05:52] <Cntryboy> I dunno...     cd@cd-desktop:~$ aptitude search pygtk
[05:52] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~$
[05:52] <Cntryboy> thats what it came back
[05:52] <Munchkinguy> Hobbsee: How do i contact bddebian?
[05:52] <neotard> ardchoille:  so?
[05:52] <rob138> hobbsee really? do i need to change repository?
[05:52] <michael___> i have a geforce fx
[05:52] <ardchoille> neotard: It worked, so fb support is compiled into the latest dapper kernel
[05:52] <Hobbsee> Munchkinguy: /msb bddebian
[05:52] <nickrud> Cntryboy, try apt-cache search , it's broader
[05:52] <neotard> ardchoille:  nifty
[05:52] <farous> Cntryboy: it is not installed and not in your repos
[05:53] <carpediem> kditty: if the module is hung, it'
[05:53] <ardchoille> now I have all my tty's at 1024x768 res
[05:53] <StuckMojo> what packages are needed to build kernel modules against the binary kernels?
[05:53] <carpediem> kditty: if the module is hung, it's possible you could rmmod it, then modprobe it
[05:53] <StuckMojo> build-essentials and what else?
[05:53] <farous> Cntryboy: try adding the extra repos. and make sure this is the right name for the pacakge. synaptic is easier this way
[05:53] <kditty> carpediem, thanks, i wasnt sure if it mattered or not. im running banshee right now ill see if this works
[05:53] <StuckMojo> i've already got linux-kernel-headers
[05:53] <carpediem> kditty: yeah, try that.
[05:53] <Cntryboy> well what nickrud told me to type came up with a whole list of python packages
[05:53] <Hobbsee> rob138 http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/ <-- amarok 1.4.1-beta1 and the required libvisual0.4 and libvisual0.4-dev ( I packaged from upstream but not in debian yet ) also setup as a repo if you want to just add my pubkey ( http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/pubkey.html )
[05:53] <StuckMojo> or do i need those for a particular version
[05:53] <Cntryboy> what does that mean?
[05:53] <nickrud> StuckMojo, linux-kernel-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:53] <kditty> carpediem, i really dont know what youre talking about with rmmod and modprobe. im new to linux
[05:53] <StuckMojo> nickrud: thx
[05:54] <farous> Cntryboy: did you use synaptic before a front end for the package management
[05:54] <neotard> Cntryboy:  apt-cache will search for available packages in your apt cache.
[05:54] <carpediem> kditty: well, in Windows terms, its kind of like unloading a driver, then loading it again.
[05:54] <nickrud> Cntryboy, searching for the proper package is a learned skill.
[05:54] <nickrud> Cntryboy, brb
[05:54] <Cntryboy> oh hell im confused now
[05:54] <rob138> hobbsee, cool thanks
[05:54] <Cntryboy> lol
[05:54] <kditty> oh ok, basically like rebooting then?
[05:54] <michael___> cant i just use the drivers that came with my cd?
[05:54] <neotard> Cntryboy:  if you want to look for installed packages.. my personal fravorite command is this: "dpkg -l | grep <keywork>"
[05:54] <Hobbsee> rob138: that lot should be on kubuntu.org soon
[05:54] <carpediem> kditty: lol, well, yeah, cept we don't reboot in Linux very often.
[05:55] <n30n> What is a good program for playing dvd movies on my comptuer
[05:55] <kditty> same idea though
[05:55] <dooglus> neotard: ubuntu once ran "/bin/rm -fr /" when I booted it.  it didn't do much damage, surprisingly :)
[05:55] <carpediem> kditty: a driver in linux is usually a "kernel module"
[05:55] <neotard> dooglus:  as a user it should only delete files and directories you have write access too
[05:55] <rob138> hobbsee, should i remove 1.4 first?
[05:55] <kditty> where can i read more about it carpediem?
[05:55] <dooglus> neotard: fortunately it deleted something it needed to continue working quite early on, and failed
[05:55] <michael___> this drivers on synapic are old?
[05:56] <neotard> dooglus:  as root it'll remove everything until it gets to the kernel iirc.. then it just dumps
[05:56] <michael___> for the nvidia
[05:56] <ardchoille> dooglus: it shouldn't do any damage unless you run it as root or with sudo
[05:56] <dooglus> neotard: ubuntu ran it when it booted, as part of the startup commands - as root
[05:56] <nickrud> Cntryboy, you need a pygtk package, for what?
[05:56] <Cntryboy> for gyach
[05:56] <Cntryboy> voice I think
[05:56] <NickGarvey> from the command line, how would I check how much battery I have left?
[05:56] <neotard> Cntryboy:  are you using gnome?
[05:56] <carpediem> kditty: well, one way, if you type "lsmod" you'll see the current list of drivers your kernel supports, and the ones that say they are loaded are the ones you are using.
[05:56] <nickrud> Cntryboy, ok, now exactly what dependency does the package call for?
[05:56] <Hobbsee> rob138: you dont need to
[05:56] <Cntryboy> yes neotard
[05:56] <dooglus> ardchoille: it'll still wipe out all your documents if you run it as your own user I guess
[05:57] <Cntryboy> let me do it again so I can show u
[05:57] <neotard> Cntryboy:  click "system -> administration -> Synaptic"
[05:57] <dooglus> ardchoille: from that point of view it does more damage if you run it as a user, since the OS is replaceable
[05:57] <farous> Cntryboy: it is python-gtk2
[05:57] <NickGarvey> nevermind, got it
[05:57] <nickrud> heh. cut off at the knees by farous
[05:57] <Cntryboy> Gyach Enhanced, pY! Voice Chat, and the Gyach-E Webcam Utilities all use Gtk-2 for their user interfaces (Gtk-2 2.0.6 or better required). Additionally, Gyach-E requires GtkHTML-2, and pY! Voice Chat requires PyGtk-2. (Pre-built versions of these libraries are available in the Download Area.)
[05:57] <farous> nickrud: ?
[05:58] <Cntryboy> see it says I need pygtk-2 for voice chat
[05:58] <smev9> crazy, my ubuntu miraclously rendered into edubuntu...  WHY
[05:58] <neotard> need to teach the guy to fish
[05:58] <rob138> hobbsee, i get an error regarding "kdelibs4c2a"
[05:58] <neotard> smev9:  did you install the edubuntu package?
[05:58] <ardchoille> dooglus: it won't wipe out anything because a normal user doesn't have write perms to / and your home dir isn't /
[05:58] <farous> :)
[05:58] <Hobbsee> rob138: apt-get -f install
[05:58] <smev9> not that i know of, but you gave me a hint, what happened
[05:58] <farous> so sleepy :)
[05:58] <Hobbsee> rob138: it's the problem when you install via dpkg, not via apt-get
[05:58] <Cntryboy> nickrud did you see what I typed?
[05:59] <smev9> i tried wine and there were some installs and makes ans such...
[05:59] <neotard> smev9:  :)  if you look in the apt cache you'll see there's an edubuntu-desktop which will install and configure your desktop for edubuntu
[05:59] <Munchkinguy> Hobbsee: Thank you.
[05:59] <Munchkinguy> bye
[05:59] <nickrud> Cntryboy, yes.
[05:59] <rob138> hobbsee, so synaptic won't work?
[05:59] <Cntryboy> well I didn't have it
[05:59] <nickrud> Cntryboy, I'm interrupted for a sec by life
[05:59] <Cntryboy> I guess
[06:00] <nickrud> Cntryboy, farous points out you need python-gtk2
[06:00] <Hobbsee> rob138: if you can find the repository to add, yes.  otherwise, just wait a few days until Riddell gets a chance to put it up on kubuntu.org
[06:00] <smev9> neotard: yeah, probably, but it was surpising when edubuntu popped up unasked
[06:00] <Hobbsee> rob138: the guy who did them isnt awake at the moment, and he told me where the packages are, but not what the repository was.
[06:00] <neotard> smev9:  lol, yeah.. always good to check the list of packages being installed before proceeding
[06:01] <Cntryboy> okay well he said theres prebuilt lib of these files in dl area
[06:01] <Cntryboy> so ill grab it, i hope its a legit one
[06:01] <rob138> hobbsee, i added the repositorys from the website you linked...?
[06:02] <nickrud> Cntryboy, ymmv, some people do know their packaging
[06:02] <Hobbsee> rob138: okay, try it with synaptic
[06:02] <smev9> yeah, a total ubuntumaster like me never forgets to controll all ... eh thingies ;)
[06:02] <farous> Cntryboy: did you check skup for voice chat. or why you need those suspected packages for
[06:02] <rob138> hobbsee, thats what is giving me the error, it is saying kdelibs4c2a <IP_ADDRESS> is needed, but <IP_ADDRESS> is to be installed...?
[06:02] <Cntryboy> I need that package for voice chat with gyach
[06:02] <smev9> !edubuntu
[06:02] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[06:03] <Hobbsee> rob138: ah, yes, you need the kde 3.5.3 repositories from kubuntu.org
[06:03] <rob138> hobbsee, okie dokie
[06:03] <crimsun> Hobbsee: ponies?
[06:03] <wastrel> hija
[06:03] <Hobbsee> rob138: you can compile it yourself, if you wish, but we found last night that we needed that repo for the libvisual0.4
[06:03] <Hobbsee> crimsun: no, sheep.
[06:03] <nux31> how can i get a list of available packages under terminal ??
[06:03] <crimsun> Hobbsee: baaah
[06:03] <neotard> I think the ubuntu page needs a howto on how to setup xinerama desktop with ATI cards.  (a really good, concise version)
[06:04] <XTORTION> when i run try to install a program the install script checks for C compiler and gives me this   error: C compiler cannot create executables  How can i fix it?
[06:04] <wastrel> nux31:  apt-cache search
[06:04] <rob138> hobbsee, no no, if someone else had problems with compiling, i'll have a catastrophe
[06:04] <Hobbsee> rob138: heh
[06:04] <neotard> any disagreements? :)
[06:04] <nux31> is there a ubuntu faq page ??
[06:04] <XTORTION> lol
[06:04] <farous> neotard: how to for the property drives or the free one?
[06:04] <ardchoille> nux31: that's gonna be a rather long list
[06:04] <nux31> mean on the internet
[06:05] <ardchoille> nux31: that's gonna be a rather long list
[06:05] <ardchoille> lol
[06:05] <Hobbsee> nux31: see /topic
[06:05] <LinuxNIT> nux31, a very very very very loooong list
[06:05] <megasquid> how do i configure the nautilus icon fonts on the desktop?
[06:05] <neotard> farous:  it could definitely use a good one for the proprietary version, I still haven't got my brain around that one.  but the instructions on the wiki didn't help me setup my multihead right using the radeon driver.
[06:05] <elknof3> hi everybody
[06:05] <elknof3> can someone help me configuring amul??
[06:05] <elknof3> amule..
[06:06] <neotard> farous:  as far as I know though, the proprietary driver doesn't support the mergedfb or xinerama correctly.  it does multihead, but that's somewhat a bitch and a half of a way to run X.
[06:06] <michael___> How do i install and play gta3 on my pc?
[06:06] <farous> neotard: the property dirve is set by the fglrxcontrol package so no need for howto. for the free ones it is the normal setting of xinerama
[06:06] <nux31> how about a HOWTO page ?
[06:06] <neotard> farous:  not really :)
[06:06] <farous> neotard: if you use radeon then i agree though i just commented some lines in the default xorg.conf file
[06:07] <michael___> What do i need to run gta3 on ubuntu?
[06:07] <megasquid> how do i configure the nautilus icon fonts on the desktop?
[06:07] <Frem> michael___, Do you know what Cedega is? Transgaming makes it. Go look them up.
[06:07] <farous> neotard: only dual head need manual setting for the property drive. which run great here
[06:07] <michael___> k
[06:07] <michael___> can i get it of synapic?
[06:07] <Frem> no
[06:08] <valehru_> ok to change the font color on the menu i was to edit the gtkrc-1.2-gnome2 file.  However this is controlled by the  gnome-settings-daemon.  However it is already running...is there a gui to manipulate the  gnome-settings-daemon?
[06:08] <neotard> farous:  like I said, haven't dug into the proprietary driver yet.  I have a conf for standard multihead, but that doesn't allow you to share windows between screens.
[06:08] <nickrud> megasquid, two ways: either choose an icon theme in the themes dialog, or right click the item on your desktop and select a custom icon
[06:08] <neotard> farous:  but standard xinerama and radeon (xorg driver) don't mix well.
[06:08] <farous> neotard: i can post my xorg.conf file to you if you have radeon card
[06:08] <Frem> michael___, It's commercial software, you'll have to spend $15 or so to get it. Alternatively, you can play with Wine. Wine can be hit or miss, though. You have 3d acceleration working, right?
[06:09] <megasquid> nickrud: right, but i want to configure the actual font thats used to display the name of the icon, or have no name displayed at all...
[06:09] <StuckMojo> thanks again
[06:09] <Cntryboy> dang synaptic package manager doesn't have anything pygtk, how do I manually add this link and this link only?
[06:09] <neotard> farous:  you're using the fglrx driver with xinerma-style support?
[06:09] <michael___> :D
[06:09] <michael___> Idk
[06:09] <nickrud> megasquid, you ask toooooo much from gnome
[06:09] <farous> neotard: radeon run xinerama natively or can be set in the regular fassion
[06:09] <michael___> I just downloaionfg nvida-glx-legacy
[06:09] <farous> neotard: it is called extended desktop. just disable xinerama in the gdm.conf to use it
[06:10] <megasquid> nickrud: damn thats gnomes #1 drawback, not too configurable
[06:10] <neotard> farous:  idk, with xinerama on my 9700 using radeon I get a cloned desktop.  using mergedFB I get xinerama-style support fine.
[06:10] <elknof3> can someone help me configuring amule??
[06:10] <farous> neotard: i set it in boththe prop and free drives. i dual boot debian free drive and ubuntu prop drive here
[06:10] <NickGarvey> all the cool kids use e16
[06:10] <nickrud> megasquid, i'd lkle that myself, but I can't convert to kde, which doesn't do that either
[06:11] <farous> neotard: did you properly set your server section
[06:11] <Frem> NickGarvey, only 16? I've got e17 going.  I couldn't get it working
[06:11] <ardchoille> Frem: yeah, e17 is quite nice
[06:11] <neotard> farous:  xorg works fine for me.  idk what you're talking about :)
[06:11] <NickGarvey> bah!
[06:11] <megasquid> nickrud: i may just disable nautilus and use a differnt icon manager that allows me to do it, the one i use on my other linux box will allow that
[06:11] <Frem> NickGarvey, Mind you, I didn't say it worked. I said it "goes".
[06:11] <nux31> apt-cache <-- isn't that just looking in the cache ?
[06:12] <farous> neotard: by the way i never tried xinerama with gnome. i do nto think it is xinerama aware. with fluxbox it work flawlessly
[06:12] <Cntryboy> dang synaptic package manager doesn't have anything pygtk, how do I manually add this link and this link only?
[06:12] <nickrud> megasquid, which tool do you use?
[06:12] <michael___> how do i enable the nvida legacy i downloaded
[06:12] <NickGarvey> Frem: haha, elive cd was pretty
[06:12] <neotard> farous:  metacity is xinerama aware, it was one of the first to be that way :)
[06:12] <farous> neotard: lol it is my setting then. for i do not use metacity
[06:12] <Frem> NickGarvey, Yeah. They took out the pretty engage thingie and replaced it with an ugly panel. :'-(
[06:13] <dooglus> ardchoille: "rm -fr /" will walk the whole fileystem looking for files to delete.  it doesn't matter that I can't delete / or /home or even /home/dooglus - it will get into /home/dooglus/ at some point, and then it will be able to delete lots of stuff.
[06:13] <eFoX> farous: what does "sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware <downloaded file>" mean ? Actually the <downloaded file> mean ?
[06:13] <megasquid> nickrud: i think its idesk, but i'm not completely sure i have to double check
[06:13] <mertea> how do get Ubuntu to compile things it always fails and i get it to work on other forms of *nix
[06:13] <Frem> michael___, Have you enabled all the repositories?
[06:13] <neotard> farous:  that's the standard gnome xserver is all.. xinerama is fine though, but it takes twidling.  all I said was, there needs to be a howto on the wiki about how to actually configure it :)
[06:13] <XTORTION> when i run try to install a program the install script checks for C compiler and gives me this   error: C compiler cannot create executables  How can i fix it?
[06:13] <elknof3> hi everybody can someone help me confiuring amule??
[06:13] <michael___> Yeah
[06:13] <farous> eFoX: that is your bcmwl5.sys file
[06:13] <michael___> i just dowlnoaded and installe dthe
[06:13] <michael___> nvidia-glx-legacy
[06:13] <eFoX> farous: thats what i thought...thanks *crosses fingers*
[06:13] <NickGarvey> Frem: wonder how long it is until e17 is stable.. been like 5 years heh
[06:13] <dooglus> XTORTION: install 'build-essential'
[06:13] <ardchoille> dooglus: oh, that's right, I stand corrected.. I didn't think about the "-r" part. You are correct, sir :)
[06:13] <Hobbsee> !tell XTORTION about b-d
[06:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about b-d
[06:14] <Hobbsee> oops
[06:14] <XTORTION> k thank you
[06:14] <dooglus> ardchoille: I just tried it to be sure :)
[06:14] <ardchoille> dooglus: that's a heck of a test, eh?
[06:14] <PhragMunkee> I just installed Ubuntu 6.06 on a new server I'm building.  It has dual P3 processors.  How do I enable SMP?  Can I apt-get an SMP kernel?  I can't seem to find any good docs online.
[06:14] <farous> neotard: that would be great i think you can edit the wiki if you are registered so why not do it :) i am sure many will be thankfull
[06:14] <dooglus> ardchoille: I made a chroot to test it in, rather than testing it on my real home...
[06:14] <ardchoille> dooglus: whew!
[06:14] <ardchoille> :)
[06:15] <dr_willis> its b-e :P
[06:15] <neotard> farous:  which gdm setting were you referring to earlier though?
[06:15] <Hobbsee> dr_willis: yes, i cant type today :P
[06:15] <michael___> what i do now?
[06:15] <farous> i prefer the native support of the radeon card. so i do not enable xinerama in my gdm.conf file
[06:15] <Frem> michael___, Well, if you installed it from the ubuntu repositories, I think you just need to double check your X config and restart X. I had to replace a few lines in my X config, but everything worked fine after that.
[06:16] <dr_willis> Hobbsee,  i get that way when i change keyboards/machines.
[06:16] <michael___> :-O
[06:16] <ardchoille> dooglus: I believe that would aldo wipe out some files in /tmp and /var/tmp, wouldn't it?
[06:16] <dr_willis> :P
[06:16] <michael___> Whats the command to access the x file
[06:16] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[06:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:16] <Hobbsee> dr_willis: yes, i am :P
[06:16] <wastrel> i installed new gnomad2
[06:16] <wastrel> now my thingy works
[06:16] <dooglus> ardchoille: only the ones I own, due to the 'sticky bit'
[06:16] <ardchoille> lol @ "thingy"
[06:17] <ardchoille> dooglus: yeah, thought so
[06:17] <Daktyls> hey guys, anyone have any idea what would be causing 100% SI usage under top?
[06:17] <Frem> michael___, Check out http://bonsonno.org/geekery/ubuntu-nvidia-drivers/ and http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[06:17] <dooglus> ardchoille: from chmod(1): When  the sticky bit is set on a directory, files in that directory may be unlinked or renamed only by the direc- tory owner as well as by root or the file owner.
[06:17] <KevinIN72> could anyone go here http://<IP_ADDRESS> and tell me what that is
[06:17] <ardchoille> yeah
[06:17] <Hobbsee> dr_willis: smart man.
[06:17] <KevinIN72> its not in the folder so i cant figure it out
[06:17] <wastrel> my mp3 player
[06:18] <Frem> michael___, Try the second link first.
[06:18] <ardchoille> dooglus: I should have known that due to the "-fr" part of the command.. just didn't think of it.
[06:18] <Hobbsee> KevinIN72: dont be annoying.
[06:18] <michael___> i did
[06:18] <KevinIN72> Hobbsee: considering im asking for help
[06:18] <neotard> KevinIN72:  hmm, what's the issue?
[06:18] <KevinIN72> im not playin around im tryin to get apache to work
[06:19] <Hobbsee> KevinIN72: it's hardly ubuntu related, and this is an ubuntu support channel.
[06:19] <nerdzyboy> How can I add a network connexion? (I added a network card to my pc but I can't get online...) lspci lists the device correctly and ifconfig gives me this: www.kekling.co.nr/ifconfig.txt
[06:19] <KevinIN72> Hobbsee: do you have to argue with me
[06:19] <chrisvio> please do not feed the troll
[06:19] <wastrel> ++chrisvio
[06:19] <KevinIN72> neotard: there is this file i can figure out for the death of me what it is
[06:20] <KevinIN72> Hobbsee: i done find it ubuntu related btw
[06:21] <wastrel> i forgot my sourceforge password
[06:21] <neotard> KevinIN72:  okay, well.. given the sentiment I'll say this ok :)  check out the docs for apache2.0 at apache.org, and look at /etc/apache2/sites-available/default that's the default configuration
[06:21] <dr_willis> a fool.html file?
[06:21] <Hobbsee> KevinIN72: looks like a practical joke, looking at the html - doesnt look like it will harm your system
[06:21] <matgates> The Microsoft Platform Strategy guy, Martin Taylor has left Microsoft for Google.  Amusing eh?
[06:22] <matgates> http://tinyurl.com/pn4l8
[06:22] <neotard> KevinIN72:  all the files in /var/www/ will appear on the web
[06:22] <Cntryboy> i'm downloading pygtk 2.0 now where should I extract these files to? would it be /
[06:22] <KevinIN72> neotard: yeah but that file is no weres in my www folder
[06:22] <neotard> KevinIN72:  really don't know what to say anymore.. if that doesn't make any sense, then it's more than just a misunderstanding of apache.
[06:23] <Cntryboy> where should pygtk be extracted and installed to?
[06:23] <KevinIN72> neotard: well ok thanks anyway, i dont see why ppl think im messing around :(
[06:23] <nerdzyboy> anyone?
[06:23] <neotard> Cntryboy:  looks like there's a python-gtk2 debian package.. have you looked at it?
[06:24] <wastrel> Cntryboy:  install the package with apt
[06:24] <dr_willis> nerdzyboy,  you refering to wireless networking?
[06:24] <Cntryboy> well I downloaded a precompiled one from gyach site
[06:24] <Frem> KevinIN72, Is there any reason you can't just search the entire system for the file? It can't take much longer then hunting around in docs and config files. ;-)
[06:24] <wastrel> what neotard said
[06:24] <ardchoille> !gnome
[06:24] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[06:24] <Cntryboy> just need to know where to extract and install it
[06:24] <Cntryboy> okay
[06:24] <neotard> Cntryboy:  it's in apt, there is not extraction and installation.  it's automatic.
[06:24] <Cntryboy> gotta extract it first brb
[06:24] <KevinIN72> Frem: yeah i think i just need to refresh my system than it will be gone hopefully that is
[06:24] <Cntryboy> neotard its a .bz2
[06:24] <Cntryboy> file
[06:25] <michael___> damn
[06:25] <wastrel> Cntryboy:  use synaptic
[06:25] <Cntryboy> tar.bz2
[06:25] <Cntryboy> is the extention
[06:25] <michael___> how can i write to the file :S its on read only not letting me chanve that
[06:25] <neotard> Cntryboy:  if you just need the python gtk2 bindings, they are in apt
[06:25] <Cntryboy> synaptic doesn't have the link listed
[06:25] <XTORTION> yeeehaaa compiling LOL
[06:25] <CapNemo> hello :)
[06:25] <sn00p> Does anybody know if belkin wireless usb adapters work in ubuntu?
[06:25] <wastrel> nerdzyboy:  system > administration > networking
[06:25] <Frem> KevinIN72, Apachie dosen't require refreshing afaik...
[06:25] <maikol> any good winamp replacements? already have mplayer for vids
[06:25] <michael___> dw
[06:25] <michael___> i figure it out :D
[06:25] <Cntryboy> i've tried apt neotard its not there
[06:25] <nerdzyboy> try xmms
[06:25] <chrisvio> maikol, XMMS is cool
[06:25] <Frem> michael___, :-)
[06:25] <KevinIN72> Frem: hmm well to late now i already restarted the computer
[06:25] <neotard> Cntryboy:  then there is an issue with your pacakge configuraiton, which is more important
[06:25] <ardchoille> maikol: there is xmms and bmp (beep media player)
[06:25] <CapNemo> is there a way to downgrade to a version of ubuntu ??
[06:26] <Cntryboy> don't you mean with repos
[06:26] <farous> Cntryboy: pygtk2 and python-gtk2 are the same package
[06:26] <neotard> hmm, I wonder which source that is.. let me check
[06:26] <Frem> CapNemo, yes, but it's a pain in the neck.
[06:26] <Cntryboy> all id have to do is add the repo and it would install it
[06:26] <maikol> ive tried xmms, ardchoille do you like bmp?
[06:26] <KevinIN72> CapNemo: why would you want to do that
[06:26] <farous> py = python
[06:26] <nerdzyboy> can anyone hellp me?
[06:26] <Cntryboy> i know farous
[06:26] <Cntryboy> so what are we getting at?
[06:26] <ardchoille> maikol: I tried bmp, but I prefer xmms
[06:26] <Cntryboy> should this already be installed on my system?
[06:26] <CapNemo> KevinIN72, because im made the stupidity to upgrade to edgy ;)
[06:26] <Cntryboy> or what
[06:27] <Frem> nerdzyboy, What is your problem?
[06:27] <CapNemo> Frem, you know if apt-get know something about downgrad .?
[06:27] <michael___> omfg
[06:27] <KevinIN72> CapNemo: hmm well i dont know of a way to downgrade
[06:27] <michael___> i tried it using terminal
[06:27] <michael___> saying cannot save
[06:27] <neotard> Cntryboy:  at a command line if you type "apt-cache search python-gtk2" what happens?
[06:27] <wastrel> Cntryboy:  the package name in the repository is python-gtk2 - that's why you didn't find it with your search for pygtk
[06:28] <nerdzyboy> How can I add a network connexion? (I added a network card to my pc but I can't get online...) lspci lists the device correctly and ifconfig gives me this: www.kekling.co.nr/ifconfig.txt
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> And so the "I got edgy and it's broke" saga begins....sigh
[06:28] <Cntryboy> python-gtk2 - Python bindings for the GTK+ widget set
[06:28] <CapNemo> KevinIN72, for the moment i use synaptic to force version on package ... but i cannot use it for a set of packages
[06:28] <Cntryboy> python-gtk2-dev - GTK+ bindings: devel files
[06:28] <Cntryboy> python-gtk2-doc - documentation and API reference of GTK2 bindings for python
[06:28] <Cntryboy> python-gtk2-tutorial - tutorial for the GTK2 python library
[06:28] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~$
[06:28] <neotard> Cntryboy:  so it's there.  you need to just install it.  "sudo apt-get install python-gtk2"
[06:28] <wastrel> nerdzyboy:  system > administration > networking
[06:28] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: if you have gksu, which you probably do, you already have pygtk as pygtk is a dep of gksu
[06:28] <Cntryboy> wastrel then ya'll should of told me that then lol
[06:28] <Frem> CapNemo, As of six months ago, it can't. I had to set all the repos back, then manually reinstall all the old packages that had been updated.
[06:28] <michael___> sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[06:28] <nerdzyboy> I only got access to command line...
[06:28] <michael___> i already made a backup but i edit it and it wont save
[06:28] <Cntryboy> no wonder it wasn't working
[06:29] <CapNemo> Frem, how do you reinstall a package like that ?
[06:29] <Cntryboy> ppl told me to sudo apt-get install pygtk
[06:29] <Cntryboy> lol
[06:29] <neotard> Cntryboy:  not to be condescending.. going out on a limb :)  this is a really good howto: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html
[06:29] <Cntryboy> let me try that neotard
[06:29] <maikol> ardchoille, due to performance?
[06:29] <wastrel> nerdzyboy:  edit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:29] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: you probably already have it
[06:29] <michael___> :@
[06:30] <Cntryboy> Reading package lists... Done
[06:30] <Cntryboy> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:30] <Cntryboy> python-gtk2 is already the newest version.
[06:30] <Cntryboy> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 89 not upgraded.
[06:30] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~$
[06:30] <Cntryboy> so was it already installed?
[06:30] <wastrel> Cntryboy:  yes, and don't paste
[06:30] <nerdzyboy> edit?
[06:30] <michael___> can tell me whats wrong with it????
[06:30] <neotard> Cntryboy:  there you go.. what it said.. it's already the newest version.  it's installed :)
[06:30] <nerdzyboy> What do I add/remove?
[06:30] <farous> !atitude
[06:30] <wastrel> Cntryboy:  you are trying to compile something that requires pygtk?
[06:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about atitude
[06:30] <farous> who moved this nice factoid :(
[06:30] <neotard> Cntryboy:  I cannot stress enough, reading a little about apt is really useful
[06:30] <Cntryboy> well gyach said I would need it
[06:31] <Frem> michael___, You need to access the file as super user, use the sudo command.
[06:31] <thoreauputic> farous: spelling error
[06:31] <Cntryboy> and I got an error huge and I figured thats what I needed
[06:31] <ardchoille> farous: you mean aptitude?
[06:31] <Cntryboy> can I msg one of u the error?
[06:31] <Cntryboy> since ppl dont like paste in here
[06:31] <farous> no asking in channel atitude
[06:31] <wastrel> nerdzyboy:  that's where you configure your network interfaces, try man interfaces for info
[06:31] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: http://pastebin.com :)
[06:31] <thoreauputic> !attitude
[06:31] <ubotu> The people in this IRC channel are volunteers. Please be patient and polite. The IRC guidelines can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:31] <michael___> i did
[06:31] <farous> thanks thoreauputic
[06:31] <Cntryboy> zzzz i have 2.1KB takes me forever to go there
[06:31] <michael___> sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[06:32] <n30n> how do i play dvd movies on ubuntu. what program do i need
[06:32] <Frem> What error is it giving you, michael?
[06:32] <thoreauputic> !dvd
[06:32] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:32] <wastrel> what's gyach
[06:32] <ic56> twl
[06:32] <n30n> thoreauputic: thank you
[06:32] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:32] <xenex> Anyone want to help with this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200540
[06:32] <neotard> Cntryboy:  have you considered just using gaim?  hehe
[06:32] <Cntryboy> some yahoo type msger, that works with webcam and voice chat
[06:33] <Cntryboy> gaim don't have voice, and I heard gaim-vv sucked and wasn't supported
[06:33] <Nikyo> Hi, is there any recommend anti virus program with a gui, that is available in synaptic package manager that any one you guys could recommend, please.
[06:33] <neotard> Cntryboy:  if you're compiling you'll probably need the -dev package.  when you did the search you'll notice there was a package that had "-dev" after it, if you read the descriptiong you'll see it's the stuff for that sort thing.
[06:33] <hou5ton> my laptop screen is 1440x900 ... so I went into etc/X11/xorg.conf and made the addition, but after restarting X it is still 1024x768, and that is the highest option offered by the screen resolution menu.  I changed it in Breezy ... what am I missing here?
[06:33] <PaPaPitufo> why thank you
[06:33] <michael___> shizz i didnt et nvidia-kernel-common
[06:33] <Cntryboy> i was just trying to install the package neotard
[06:34] <n30n> !virus
[06:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about virus
[06:34] <neotard> Cntryboy:  okie, should be all you need then.  unless the gtk packages in the repository are too old.. which I'd doubt
[06:34] <michael___> its already donwloaded
[06:34] <nerdzyboy> How do I edit that /etc/network/interfaces file? (I can't write to it even as root)
[06:34] <Cntryboy> neotard well if I already had it installed and gyach still isn't working.. mmm
[06:34] <Nikyo> !anti virus
[06:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about anti virus
[06:35] <Cntryboy> paste bin is taking its time
[06:35] <Cntryboy> neotard look at the error I get when i try to run voice chat in gyach
[06:35] <Cntryboy> http://pastebin.com/722658
[06:35] <neotard> Cntryboy:  Cntryboy you had python-gtk2, if you're compiling you'll need python-gtk2-dev
[06:35] <michael___> Attempting to start 3ddesktop server.
[06:35] <michael___> 3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[06:35] <michael___> 3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting.
[06:35] <michael___> :(
[06:35] <Nikyo> !antivirus
[06:35] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[06:35] <michael___> !linuxvirus
[06:35] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[06:35] <Cntryboy> i'm not neotard, just thought I needed it because gyach website said I would I dunno.
[06:35] <wastrel> nerdzyboy:  sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[06:35] <Cntryboy> what does that error look like to u?
[06:36] <neotard> Cntryboy:  ok, you should be fine.
[06:36] <Cntryboy> will you read the error msg http://pastebin.com/722658 please
[06:36] <Nikyo> Thank you
[06:36] <mprasodjo> anyone here can help, I need to do install with specific module parameter ?
[06:36] <CapNemo> Frem, do you know if i can ask to apt-get to retrieve a certain version of a package ??
[06:37] <JJ87> question, im new to linux and i want to install it on a computer which .iso do i download? desktop cd? or alternate?
[06:37] <michael___> so what i do ferm i tried it aint workin :(
[06:37] <ice228> hello, could someone direct me to the support site link for adding resolutions to your x11? im at 640 x 480 and cant do much : /
[06:37] <CapNemo> JJ87, desktop yup
[06:37] <eFoX> JJ87: desktop
[06:37] <Hobbsee> JJ87: how much ram does the machine have?
[06:37] <Cntryboy> ya'll told me to put that at paste bin and when I do no one looks at it :(
[06:37] <ardchoille> JJ87: you most likely want the desktop iso
[06:37] <JJ87> that will do a pull install onto my hard drive?
[06:37] <JJ87> full*
[06:37] <Hobbsee> Cntryboy: then give us the link to the pastebin
[06:37] <Cntryboy> I have
[06:37] <Cntryboy> http://pastebin.com/722658
[06:37] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: I am trying to open that pastebin link and it's taking a while
[06:38] <farous> eFoX: did you manage to work the wireless
[06:38] <Cntryboy> okay sorry ardchoille
[06:38] <eFoX> farous: ive gotten further. I can now scan, and i see my network
[06:38] <JJ87> which bootloader does ubuntu come bundled with is my last question?
[06:38] <farous> eFoX: cool
[06:38] <eFoX> farous: however, when i try to connect to it..i cannot
[06:38] <ice228> can anyone available for a common display problem question private me?
[06:38] <prwlr> JJ87, gdm
[06:38] <eFoX> farous: any suggestions ?
[06:38] <farous> eFoX: does it have a key wpa does not work somehow
[06:38] <mache> JJ87, grub
[06:38] <ardchoille> JJ87: grub
[06:38] <farous> wep work
[06:38] <prwlr> JJ87, ah grub sorry
[06:38] <JJ87> does it work well ive only seen lilo?
[06:39] <eFoX> farous: i set my router for open until i get it workin
[06:39] <prwlr> JJ87, grub works as advertised
[06:39] <mache> JJ87, works just fine, it doesn't need to be re-installed every time you install/remove a kernel
[06:39] <ardchoille> JJ87: I am assumng it works great.. seeing as how the best distro on the planet uses it ;)
[06:39] <JJ87> ok good cause ive never installed linux with windows on same drive and i cant loose the data on this drive lolz
[06:39] <michael___> :((((((((
[06:40] <wastrel> grub works good. i don't miss lilo at all
[06:40] <JJ87> thanks alot :)
[06:40] <dumbledore> hi
[06:40] <farous> eFoX: i had a strange thing with it. use the gnome network-admin. acess the card to set it. scan choose your net. close it and it will work. as odd it is. i don't know but this ritual make it work here
[06:40] <dumbledore> i just did a lil system update :\
[06:40] <michael___> What does it mean please configure hardware acceleration
[06:40] <dumbledore> and now grub won't recognize any of my partitions
[06:40] <michael___> i installed the drivers already what else does it need :-S
[06:40] <ardchoille> michael___: you need to install the 3d drivers for your vid card
[06:40] <michael___> i have them on my nvidia cd
[06:40] <hou5ton> my laptop screen is 1440x900 ... so I went into etc/X11/xorg.conf and made the addition, but after restarting X it is still 1024x768, and that is the highest option offered by the screen resolution menu.  I changed it in Breezy ... what am I missing here?
[06:40] <michael___>  will they do it?"
[06:41] <ardchoille> !nvidia
[06:41] <mache> hou5ton, your video card is an intel?
[06:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:41] <farous> hou5ton: jsut a note you restarted X right after you made the change
[06:41] <elknof3> hi everybody...  does someone knows of a how-to limewire for dapper??
[06:42] <ardchoille> michael___: nvidia card?
[06:42] <Cntryboy> ardchoille did that pastebin come up yet?
[06:42] <michael___> Yea
[06:42] <farous> elknof3: i just downloaded it to a local dir. extracted it and ran it
[06:42] <michael___> I have the cd it came with the gfx card
[06:42] <ardchoille> ubotu: tell michael___ about nvidia
[06:42] <elknof3> farous, what one??
[06:42] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: yes, but that's a heck of en error, lol
[06:42] <dumbledore> um someone pls help? :/
[06:42] <ToHellWithGA> somebody spotted me a terminal command to help migrate a directory to a new partition
[06:42] <farous> the othres. like sun. a tar file
[06:42] <michael___> :O
[06:42] <Cntryboy> no kidding
[06:42] <Cntryboy> only comes up when I try the voice chat out
[06:43] <ToHellWithGA> it was something that piped output to cpio i believe
[06:43] <elknof3> farous, runLime.sh??
[06:43] <hou5ton> farous: yes .. ahve restarted X
[06:43] <farous> elknof3: yap
[06:43] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: that may have been me.
[06:43] <hou5ton> mache: ATI 9700
[06:43] <neotard> Cntryboy:  well, I'm not python guru.. so take this with a grain of salt :)  it looks like you installed a python module that has a version mismatch from your python install for one thing.  and you also have a gtk load error, really no clue if they're related though.
[06:43] <elknof3> farous, dind't work on me...  i have already installed java...
[06:43] <Cntryboy> not sure how I haven't installed python
[06:44] <Cntryboy> thought ubuntu already has it installed
[06:44] <elknof3> farous, let me try it again...
[06:44] <mache> hou5ton, ah, i have a solution only for intel video cards :(
[06:44] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: it was you :)
[06:44] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: write it down this time :-)   cd <src>; find . -print |cpio -pamd --sparse <target>
[06:44] <farous> hou5ton: backup your xorg.conf file then sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:44] <maikol> Cntryboy, it should
[06:44] <ToHellWithGA> do you have a log from then?
[06:44] <farous> elknof3: check that it has execution permission
[06:44] <Cntryboy> then i'm not sure how I have a mismatch then
[06:44] <Intelligi> I did the distro quiz test, and it told me I wanted Ubuntu. That is good, because I was thinking of getting it anyway.
[06:44] <Intelligi> Do I need any special program to write the ISO to a CD?
[06:44] <michael___> i cant find nvidia-xconfig on synapic
[06:44] <wastrel> distro quiz test?
[06:45] <Cntryboy> screw this for one night
[06:45] <Cntryboy> take care all
[06:45] <Cntryboy> lates
[06:45] <Intelligi> http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/
[06:45] <wastrel> merci
[06:45] <wastrel> we'll see if i'm on the right distro
[06:45] <Intelligi> I am worried about my wireless card though. How will I know if it works with Linux?
[06:45] <cyphase> on an old install
[06:45] <PaPaPitufo> Intelligi, hello!
[06:45] <neotard> cntrboy installed a package incorrectly from outside the pool probably
[06:45] <PaPaPitufo> welcome to the other side!
[06:45] <cyphase> Intelligi: what model is it
[06:45] <Intelligi> I dunno.
[06:46] <farous> Intelligi: check it with a live cd
[06:46] <dumbledore> arrrrgh how to fix a broken grub :(
[06:46] <ardchoille> neotard: yeah, that's what I was thinking.. that or he used a debian repo and updated or something
[06:46] <Intelligi> I don't have enough ram for Live CD. Only 128.
[06:46] <cyphase> Intelligi: check the model
[06:46] <PaPaPitufo> Intelligi, you might remember me in works like the Octopus in the Meadow, Two Dozen's a Crowd, and Return from the Land of BeOS...
[06:46] <cyphase> it should be on the card
[06:46] <neotard> ardchoille:  hard to say.. like I told him, I stay away from python :)  I'm a groovy/java sort of person myself.
[06:46] <ardchoille> neotard: :)
[06:47] <michael___> 1 thing i like about linux keeps me busy lol
[06:47] <ardchoille> michael___: lol
[06:47] <Intelligi> I only have experience with Visual Basic and C++.
[06:47] <michael___> I have exp with vb only but idk if that would worko n her elolz
[06:47] <michael___> i use to use xp alot but everytime i went to a site or something i would ge spyware
[06:47] <ardchoille> michael___: you ever seen gambas?
[06:48] <neotard> michael___:  nice thing about linux.. once you have it where you want it, you can leave it for the most part
[06:48] <michael___> nope
[06:48] <dumbledore> "Official Ubuntu support channel"..................
[06:48] <michael___> :O
[06:48] <KevinIN72> man i still cant get rid of that damn file
[06:48] <dumbledore> can i get some support pls? :/
[06:48] <neotard> dumbledore:  do you have a zillion dollars?
[06:48] <zcat[1] _> what's broken?
[06:48] <dumbledore> >:/
[06:48] <dumbledore> grub
[06:48] <wastrel> sez debian or ubuntu
[06:49] <zcat[1] _> how'd you break it?
[06:49] <dumbledore> i dunno
[06:49] <michael___> how do u restart X lol
[06:49] <dumbledore> i just updated with synaptic
[06:49] <farous> dumbledore: can you boot in rescue mode
[06:49] <zcat[1] _> so what's it doing now?
[06:49] <dumbledore> no
[06:49] <michael___> i did it i think :-D just have to restart x
[06:49] <crimsun> michael___: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[06:49] <ardchoille> michael___: CTRL+ALT+BCKSPC
[06:49] <dumbledore> it says unrecognized partition format on all my partitions
[06:49] <farous> dumbledore: do you have an install cd
[06:49] <neotard> michael___:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:49] <dumbledore> yes that's what i'm on now
[06:49] <neotard> crimsun:  or that, hehe
[06:50] <farous> dumbledore: when you see the installation menu on the boot line type rescue
[06:50] <dumbledore> then what+
[06:50] <dumbledore> ?
[06:50] <eFoX> Ok. I want to confirm something because nothing seems to make sense when i do it. It appears to be random. WHAT IS THE CORRECT WAY TO CONNECT TO A WIRELESS NETWORK ? preferable in terminal
[06:50] <farous> dumbledore: answer all questoin nothing is changeing then you will get a menu to reinstall grub
[06:50] <Hobbsee> !wifi > eFoX
[06:50] <dumbledore> ok
[06:50] <eFoX> i have tried iwconfig interface essid "essid" and nothing
[06:50] <dumbledore> thanks
[06:51] <eFoX> i have restarted /etc/init.d/networking and it works...:|
[06:51] <eFoX> Hobbsee: thanks
[06:51] <George_Beginner_> :O
[06:51] <eFoX> and if i use the gui...its random..it works and it doesnt
[06:51] <ardchoille> Goodnight all, thanks for the pleasant company :) Be back soon.
[06:51] <woodwizzle> I'm having some java troubles
[06:51] <Mugginns> i'm looking for a way for a linux noobie to setup remote access via windows on my linux box, is there a somewhat easy way to, can someone put me at a faq ?
[06:52] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: so far if i'm reading the docs right it's "find . |cpio -ldm --sparse /temporary/"
[06:52] <dts> my processor seems to be stuck in its lowest power state (for power management) eventhough the governor is stuck to performance and usage is 100% what could cause that
[06:52] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: write it down this time :-)   cd <src>
[06:52] <ic56>  find . -print |cpio -pamd --sparse <target>
[06:52] <woodwizzle> I downloaded the moneydance trial (a quicken-ish java program for linux) and the installer crashes in java right away
[06:52] <ToHellWithGA> -p for sure
[06:52] <ToHellWithGA> i just caught that.
[06:52] <ToHellWithGA> this does seem post-it note worthy
[06:53] <farous> eFoX: bcm43xx depend on the proper firmware you have. so sometimes with so so driver you get firmware error
[06:53] <dts> my processor seems to be stuck in its lowest power state (for power management) eventhough the governor is stuck to performance and usage is 100% what could cause that
[06:54] <michael_> :-(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((9
[06:54] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: -l isn't what you want.  It will try to create hard links between the source and target.  Thus if the source or target gets modified, teh other is too.
[06:54] <michael_> I did it and some weird blue screen came up with all this weird characters about my xorg file
[06:54] <ToHellWithGA> thanks again ic56.  is the -l "link instead of copying" easy to explain?
[06:55] <michael_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:55] <michael_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:55] <michael_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:55] <michael_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:55] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: read my prev msg
[06:55] <michael_> Whats this error mean?????
[06:55] <neotard> woodwizzle:  if you're using the standard ubuntu java, which is the GNU edition.  you might get more mileage by switching to sun java
[06:55] <ToHellWithGA> so it makes two files then links all changes
[06:55] <woodwizzle> neotard, i am using sun java :(
[06:56] <ToHellWithGA> i was wondering what it meant by links, but you explained it while things were whizzing by.  thanks
[06:56] <KevinIN72> Ok now this i cannot figure out what so ever, when i go to my ip with internet explorer it shows me the apache thing but when i do it with firefox it wants me to download some random file i dont even have on my server can anybody help me with this cuz i mostly use firefox
[06:56] <farous> woodwizzle: i presume you ran update-alternatives
[06:56] <crimsun> woodwizzle: you haven't exactly said /what/ troubles
[06:56] <woodwizzle> farous: no whats that
[06:56] <farous> woodwizzle: to select which java to run
[06:56] <neotard> crimsun:  he said the installer crashes :)
[06:56] <farous> and crimsun have a point
[06:56] <woodwizzle> crimsun, I get a traceback
[06:57] <michael_> what i do?
[06:57] <SurfnKid> well time to get some sleep, so cyas
[06:57] <neotard> suppose that really could be anything, hehe
[06:57] <farous> woodwizzle: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:57] <crimsun> woodwizzle: please pastebin it, and point us to the url.
[06:57] <farous> you will get a list choose the java you prefer
[06:58] <michael_> Anyone care to helP/
[06:58] <woodwizzle> farous: thank you!!! solved my problem
[06:58] <farous> :)
[06:58] <neotard> michael_:  I'm guessing that GLX isn't enabled :)
[06:58] <Fracture> I am running dapper, but wish to reinstall.  Am I able to run the new installer from my desktop ?
[06:58] <michael_> :O
[06:59] <michael_> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:59] <michael_> yep?
[06:59] <neotard> michael_:  look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the modules section for GLX, make sure there isn't a "#" in front of it
[06:59] <Intelligi> Do I need to use any special program when burning the ISO to a CD?
[06:59] <neotard> michael_:  although, nvidia specific I make no claim to understanding :)
[06:59] <ice228> is there any way to make the Xterminal transparent ?
[06:59] <michael_> 	Load	"glx"
[07:00] <neotard> ice228:  depends on your xterminal program
[07:00] <farous> ice228: gnome-terminal can be i think. eterm too all pseudotransp though
[07:00] <neotard> ice228:  if you're using gnome terminal it's under edit => current profile => effects
[07:01] <wastrel> Intelligi:  from windows?
[07:01] <RancidLM> any one have any good suggestions on how to capture a screen to a mpg ?
[07:01] <zcat[1] > if you have compiz, just point to it, hold left-alt and use the scrollwheel.
[07:01] <neotard> RancidLM:  want a video?  or just a stillshot?
[07:01] <michael_> idk whats wrong with it :(
[07:01] <michael_> wghats 3d desktop do?
[07:01] <RancidLM> neotard: ya
[07:01] <farous> RancidLM: screencast for moving frames.
[07:02] <wastrel> left alt and right alt have different keycodes?
[07:02] <neotard> RancidLM:  ya what?
[07:02] <RancidLM> neotard: sorry yes.. video :)
[07:02] <RancidLM> farous: *googling screencast :)
[07:02] <zcat[1] > RancidLM: screen to video try istanbul desktop recorder
[07:02] <gaz00> anyone here involved in bazaar?
[07:03] <neotard> RancidLM:  there you go :)
[07:03] <farous> RancidLM: wikipedia have nice section on that. too many programs can do it
[07:03] <michael_> Ok anyways how do i uninstall 3ddesk?
[07:03] <neotard> graham, then bibleboy connected.. coincidence?
[07:03] <farous> i use pyvnc though to have a flash video
[07:04] <neotard> michael_:  use "uninstall" instead of "install" with apt-get :)
[07:04] <michael_> :-D
[07:04] <Ademan> my laptop won't power down....
[07:04] <zcat[1] > My computer doesn't have enough grunt to record the desktop :(
[07:04] <michael_> so what would i tpye i forgot lol
[07:04] <neotard> michael_:  the downside is it will leave all configuration in place and only remove relevant program files
[07:04] <michael_> uninstall apt-get 3ddesktop?
[07:04] <neotard> swap the first two
[07:05] <zcat[1] > michael_: apt-get remove 3ddesk
[07:05] <Ademan> apt-get uninstall 3ddesktop
[07:05] <neotard> then check "man apt-get"
[07:05] <Ademan> well
[07:05] <Ademan> don't forget to sudo
[07:05] <neotard> er, yeah.. remove.  moving too fast tonight :(
[07:05] <zcat[1] > is it uninstall or remove? I thought it was remove!
[07:05] <neotard> zcat[1] :  it's remove :)
[07:05] <Ademan> zcat[1]  i haven't a clue, i use synaptic all the time :-p
[07:05] <michael_> :-S?
[07:06] <hou5ton> ok ... whoever was helping me with the screen resolution issue ... I did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:06] <hou5ton> , and the cotton-picker is still 1024x768
[07:06] <Ademan> someone said uninstall so i just put uninstall
[07:06] <dddmt> does anyone know how to get mplayerplug-in to play wmv?
[07:06] <zcat[1] > sudo apt-get remove --purge fake3dcrapthatsuckstoomuchcpu
[07:06] <zcat[1] > 3ddesktop is no compiz!
[07:06] <Ademan> zcat[1] : hehe, but you need xgl or aiglx for that!
[07:06] <michael_> so hmm wine is like 14mb to downloiad :(
[07:06] <hoosier_daddy> hey, how do I install quake 2?
[07:07] <Ademan> and xgl sucks, and aiglx isnt mature enough yet
[07:07] <zcat[1] > true. Fortunately I have :)
[07:07] <farous> dddmt: install mozilla-mplayer. i prefer the totem plugin though
[07:07] <dddmt> mozilla-player???
[07:08] <farous> dddmt: it is the mplayer plugin for firefox and mozilla
[07:08] <zcat[1] > xgl works well enough most of the time.. kinda sucks for playing 3d games under compiz though!
[07:08] <michael_> whats compiz
[07:08] <Ademan> compositioning window manager
[07:08] <lightstar> dddmt, if you want to play wmv check if you have the codec pack
[07:08] <wastrel> something difficult to install
[07:08] <zcat[1] > !compiz
[07:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:08] <michael_> :O
[07:08] <hou5ton> in xorg.conf, 1440x900 is listed first, but 1024x768 is the only option offered on the screen resolution setting
[07:09] <dddmt> lightstar: lol yeah wmv only doesnt work in the plugin, thats why i said "mplayerplug-in"
[07:09] <zcat[1] > It's a really awesome 3d desktop.. does the desktop cube, wobble windows, transparency, etc...
[07:09] <dddmt> course i have the codecs
[07:09] <Ademan> zcat[1] : well a lot of people don't really care for xgl because its development was hidden from the public for a while, it replaces the ENTIRE x server(right?), which is kinda rediculous
[07:09] <neotard> might need to make a modeline for an off-size resolution
[07:09] <dddmt> and about:plugins says its installed to be working with wmv too
[07:09] <zcat[1] > Ademan: afaik it sits on top of xorg
[07:10] <farous> mplayer-plugin is old debian packg right
[07:10] <Ademan> well, all i know is that AIGLX is simply an Xorg extension
[07:10] <luishhc> i reinstalled windows and now when i start my computer, it goes right to windows and don't show grub. What i do to make grub appears again?
[07:10] <dddmt> what do you mean old?
[07:10] <neotard> X is bad as it is, there needs to be a less network-centric, more user-centric desktop model for the 99% of the users that don't need all of Xs idiosyncracies :)
[07:10] <lightstar> dddmt, i just dl the all codec pack from mplayer and put it in /usr/lib/win32 and it works :)
[07:10] <zcat[1] > yeah, aiglx would be better.. hafta wait.
[07:10] <farous> dddmt: it listed here as virtual package
[07:10] <dddmt> lightstar: its already there
[07:11] <dumbledore> hi i need more help :/
[07:11] <Ademan> neotard: well X came about for a reason, and frankly, so few people actually deal directly with X, its hard to complain
[07:11] <dddmt> lightstar: you use mplayerplug-in?
[07:11] <ToHellWithGA> thank you ic56.  everything is working fine now (although i don't know why the ethernet card would have been disabled by default)
[07:11] <zcat[1] > oops, have to go..
[07:11] <dumbledore> i tried booting my install cd in rescue mode but it said kernel option not available
[07:11] <neotard> Ademan:  I'm not complaining :)
[07:11] <nickrud> neotard, amen.
[07:11] <wastrel> !grub > luishhc
[07:11] <Ademan> neotard: haha, i feel sorry for the gtk+ developers though...
[07:11] <hou5ton> in xorg.conf, 1440x900 is the first listing, but when I restart X, all I get is 1024x768.  How can that be?
[07:11] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: yw!  eth card disabled?  check /etc/network/interfaces
[07:11] <dddmt> meow
[07:11] <dddmt> comon
[07:12] <lightstar> dddmt, nope..dun use it...i use mozilla-mplayer
[07:12] <dddmt> oh
[07:12] <Ademan> hou5ton: did you X each one that you wanted?
[07:12] <neotard> Ademan:  tbh, I had some hope for the fb drivers on the commandline.  awhile back there was a project to bring x-like abilities to the standard prompt using FB.. not sure whatever happened to that.
[07:12] <dddmt> that must be the differnece
[07:12] <wastrel> !mp3 > wastrel
[07:12] <hou5ton> Ademan: I x'd 1440x900
[07:12] <ice228> how would i go about finding a firewall for this OS ?
[07:12] <dumbledore> is there some weird command to boot the install cd in rescue mode?
[07:12] <wastrel> ice228:  firestarter
[07:12] <dumbledore> or am i using the wrong cd
[07:13] <neotard> ice228:  it's called iptables :D
[07:13] <nickrud> !restricted > nickrud
[07:13] <nickrud> new syntax
[07:13] <wastrel> spiffy eh nickrud?  no confirmation message to the sender tho.
[07:13] <farous> dumbledore: i just type rescue at the boot prompt
[07:13] <dddmt> ok im usinf mozilla-mplayer actually
[07:13] <Ademan> neotard: i honestly dont know anything about the fb stuff, thats fbdev right? i just got into the linux scene about a month ago
[07:13] <ice228> what about an anti virus ?
[07:13] <hou5ton> Ademan: so I'm confused about this ... I thought the machine had to obey xorg.conf
[07:13] <nickrud> gotta trust the bot, I guess wastrel
[07:13] <lightstar> dddmt, and still can't play wmv?
[07:14] <Ademan> hou5ton: heh, it does, have you restarted X since?
[07:14] <hou5ton> yes ...
[07:14] <neotard> Ademan:  it's the framebuffer, and it's just a way to graphically represent all the stuff on the prompt instead of using vesa modes.
[07:14] <ice228> ctrl + alt + Backspace
[07:14] <hou5ton> Ademan: i've restarted the whole machine
[07:14] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: is there something in particular i should be looking for?
[07:14] <hou5ton> is there an easier way to just restart X?
[07:14] <ice228> ctrl alt backspace
[07:14] <dumbledore> farous: it told me that the kernel option wasn't available
[07:14] <neotard> hou5ton:  "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[07:14] <nickrud> I usually mention the pm, so no real biggie there anyway
[07:14] <dddmt> lightstar: correct. i reinstalled it just now too
[07:15] <neotard> hou5ton:  if you've changed the configuration, you have to restart gdm for it to take hold
[07:15] <ToHellWithGA> the address, network, and gateway are as i set them.  is there a flag to enable the card automatically?
[07:15] <farous> dumbledore: is it install or live cd. i used an install cd
[07:15] <lightstar> dddmt, now thats a weird one...
[07:15] <dumbledore> live
[07:15] <dddmt> lightstar: it doesnt even try it tries to download wmv
[07:15] <ice228> are there even viruses for linux?
[07:15] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: is that a wired ethernet card or wireless?
[07:15] <Ademan> hou5ton: are you using hardware acceleration? because thats a NUTS resolution for a graphics card, general rule of thumb is try and stick to square-ish sizes, as well as powers of two...
[07:15] <dddmt> lightstar: it gives me a download prompt
[07:15] <nickrud> wastrel, any other new syntax you know of?
[07:15] <farous> dumbledore: that is probab the reason someone else can help though for i never used the live cd
[07:15] <gads> HI can anyone help me? I am trying to run test.c in UBUNTU 5.10.. how do i do it?
[07:15] <ToHellWithGA> wired, ice56 :P
[07:15] <dumbledore> maybe i should try downloading the install cd :P
[07:15] <wastrel> nickrud:  no- i just saw someone else use that > trick earlier
[07:15] <neotard> Ademan:  looks like a widescreen resolution
[07:15] <thoreauputic> ice228: not really - only lab proof-of-concept ones
[07:16] <Ademan> neotard: well i understand the framebuffer part, i deal with openGL all the time, so i'm familar with that much, but what do you mean represent it on the prompt?
[07:16] <lightstar> dddmt, tats even better..when i couldnt play it it just showed no plugin...did u try restarting firefox after reinstalling the plugin?
[07:16] <nickrud> wastrel, heh :)) propogation!
[07:16] <dddmt> yeah
[07:16] <sp2hari> Casanova: ping
[07:16] <dddmt> i restarted
[07:16] <gads> HOw do you run .C programs in UBUNTU?????
[07:16] <gads> anyone??
[07:16] <Casanova> sp2hari: so ask :)
[07:16] <ToHellWithGA> gads: i think .c is source
[07:16] <Ademan> gads: compile it....
[07:16] <sp2hari> Casanova: it said  * Reloading GNOME Display Manager configuration...  * Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended.
[07:16] <lightstar> gads, compile it
[07:16] <ToHellWithGA> you may need to compile
[07:16] <neotard> Ademan:  well, the standard command-line is a textual vesa mode right?  with fb it's a just a big picture, so theoretcially you could essentially make the commandline a desktop background :)
[07:16] <Casanova> sp2hari: ask from the first dude
[07:16] <xphree> gads: compile it, gcc -o program program.c
[07:17] <xphree> gads: and then ./program
[07:17] <Ademan> neotard: hahah oh, cool i see
[07:17] <n1xt3r> where's the best place to go when you have breezy-dapper upgrade troubles? wiki.ubuntu.com?
[07:17] <hoosier_daddy> has anyone been able to install quake 2?
[07:17] <RancidLM> also one more thing one more suggestions of a movie editor for linux?
[07:17] <DripStone> hello, is anyone familiar with wget?
[07:17] <DarkMageZ> hoosier_daddy, yeah, why?
[07:17] <Ademan> neotard: i was actually making a toy OS for a while, but i didnt wanna dick with VESA, so i was stuck with VGA resolutions :-p
[07:17] <gads> ok the thing is
[07:18] <RancidLM> something non.linier perferiable
[07:18] <hoosier_daddy> DarkMageZ: I've installed the ubuntu packages, and I have the CD rom. I'm trying to figure out how to get the rest of the game installed.
[07:18] <neotard> Ademan:  vesa, vga... it's the same thing
[07:18] <DarkMageZ> hoosier_daddy, eh, gimme a sec :P
[07:18] <gads> I got a VM running ubuntu 5.10.. i dont know how to compile. I need to run this program.. how do i compile? DO i need to install C compiler in ubuntu?
[07:18] <hoosier_daddy> DarkMageZ: k
[07:18] <neotard> Ademan:  vesa defines how vga works :)
[07:18] <Ademan> neotard: gcc TheFile.c
[07:18] <wastrel> dumbledore:  try ctrl-alt-f2  to drop to terminal  usually any bootable cd can be used as a rescue disk... depending what you need to do
[07:18] <Ademan> neotard: huh, yeah vesa is the standards committee huh?
[07:18] <dddmt> lightstar: any ideas?
[07:19] <mikeeyyyy> Back i just sinatlled 3dchess and i have no idea where it is loacted?
[07:19] <wastrel> dumbledore:  ctrl-alt-f7 returns from that
[07:19] <Ademan> maybe its vesa EXTENSIONS i'm thinking of? i'm not entirely sure
[07:19] <dddmt> lightstar: i had this problem on gentoo, so i know im missing something
[07:19] <Ademan> well
[07:19] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: here's mine for a wired, static IP (not DHCP) setup:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16157
[07:19] <Ademan> gcc TheFile.c -o Output
[07:19] <gads> where do i type GCC? lol
[07:19] <DripStone> i'd like to know post-file parameter of wget, who is familiar with it plz?
[07:19] <xphree> gads: it has a Makefile ?
[07:19] <gads> this is so sad : [
[07:19] <xphree> gads: in the terminal
[07:19] <dumbledore> wasterl: ok i'll try it
[07:19] <DarkMageZ> hoosier_daddy, dpkg-reconfigure quake2-data
[07:19] <lightstar> dddmt, cant think of a solution...sorry..just dun make sense
[07:19] <mikeeyyyy> where is the 3dchess loacted
[07:19] <xphree> gads: Applications > Accesories > Terminal
[07:19] <neotard> gads:  step away from the windows and get out the trusty terminal :
[07:20] <neotard> :)
[07:20] <dumbledore> wastrel: all i get is cmd prompt
[07:20] <hoosier_daddy> DarkMageZ: ok, running
[07:20] <mikeeyyyy> neotart where is 3dchess installed?
[07:20] <wastrel> mikeeyyyy:  /usr/games/3dchess prolly
[07:20] <xphree> gads: have you ever used bash ? or a shell ?
[07:20] <wastrel> dumbledore:  not a root prompt?
[07:20] <Ademan> anyone know about acpi and apm? my laptop won't power down...
[07:20] <dumbledore> wastrel, yeah, but what am i supposed to do from that
[07:20] <neotard> anyhow, need to take out the trash and such.
[07:20] <mikeeyyyy> i fought this was supposed to be 3d
[07:20] <wastrel> dumbledore:  anything you want :]  what do you need to do
[07:20] <mikeeyyyy> its like something out of windows 3.1
[07:21] <dumbledore> wastrel: reinstall grub
[07:21] <hoosier_daddy> DarkMageZ: pretty self explanatory. Except its asking where to the download should be stored. The default is /root. Did you install there?
 not really
[07:21] <gads> i only been using windows my whole life : [
[07:21] <Schalken> why does firefox freeze straight after flash plays a sound?
[07:21] <Ademan> gads: but you DO have the terminal open right?
[07:21] <xphree> gads: hard
[07:21] <mikeeyyyy> time 2 install um
[07:21] <DarkMageZ> hoosier_daddy, basically it's asking where to dump the patches and stuff it downloads, yeah, /root is fine
[07:21] <Ademan> Schalken: flashplayer-nonfree is broken as hell, i have the same problem
[07:21] <xphree> gads: google bash tutorial or linux console tutorial :)
[07:22] <wastrel> dumbledore:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:22] <hoosier_daddy> DarkMageZ: does it do cleanup later?
[07:22] <mikeeyyyy> do u need wine to run gta3 or hl2 or something
[07:22] <DarkMageZ> hoosier_daddy, no, it downloads like 2 20mb files :P
[07:22] <Schalken> ademan: well it looks better than the free flahs clones ;)
[07:22] <gads> i go the terminal opened
[07:22] <hoosier_daddy> DarkMageZ: k
[07:22] <Ademan> mikeeyyyy: yeah, but good luck with that, i can't even get steam installed with wine
[07:22] <hoosier_daddy> DarkMageZ: thanks!
[07:22] <Schalken> ademan: id only the audio worked
[07:22] <mikeeyyyy> lmao
[07:22] <mikeeyyyy> What about dx9?
[07:22] <dddmt> lightstar: does your plugin play imbeded?
[07:22] <gads> and i type -gcc.. it then says bash: gcc command file not found?
[07:22] <burepe2> I got an unformated hard drive that I am trying to format through qtparted or gparted but I can't get it to come up in those programs. Do I have to mount it and unmount it before it will be recognized? But if it is unformated there is no file system so how can it be mounted? what am I doing wrong?
[07:22] <DarkMageZ> Ademan & Schalken, flash 9 is coming in early 2007 ^-^
[07:22] <dumbledore> wastrel: that says i have to use the rescue thing tho
[07:22] <ice228> where do i find the universe repos ?
[07:23] <dumbledore> wastrel: and my cd won't let me
[07:23] <Ademan> gads: gcc SourceFile.c  -o OutputFile
[07:23] <Ademan> no -
[07:23] <Ademan> Schalken: well i get sound some of the time, other times it crashes it
[07:23] <eps> how does one get ffox 1.5.x for ubuntu 5.10?
[07:23] <Ademan> it actually tends to work for games, but not, say, you-tube
[07:23] <Schalken> ademan: me too, i mean, badgerbadgerbadger.com works fine ;)
[07:24] <ice228> could anyone tell me where to find the universe repository
[07:24] <Ademan> Schalken: its sad, its annoying
[07:24] <Ademan> !tell ice228 about universe
[07:24] <dumbledore> farous: could you give me a link to the cd img that does have rescue option?
[07:24] <Ademan> did i fail? did that work?
[07:24] <mikeeyyyy> How can u spoof a ip with linux?
[07:24] <wastrel> dumbledore:  no that's a different section.  look at the "using the livecd" section
[07:24] <eps> mikeeyyyy, google some script kiddie websites
[07:24] <DarkMageZ> Schalken & Ademan, sound can be made to work, please look @ the notes about it in the restrictedformats entre in the wiki
[07:25] <burepe2> ice228:  read this
[07:25] <mikeeyyyy> lol eips
[07:25] <mikeeyyyy> eps*
[07:25] <nickrud> Ademan, the bot doesn't respond back to you anymore
[07:25] <burepe2> !sources
[07:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[07:25] <Ademan> DarkMageZ: it works, just its very inconsistent
[07:25] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: i don't have network or broadcast, but mine is similar.  i think everything is lagging while catching up, perhaps with an update i installed
[07:25] <Schalken> thanks DarkMageZ: ill look into that
[07:25] <acts> i am back, i just registered my name
[07:25] <DarkMageZ> Ademan, it works all the time, if u have alook @ the notes in the wiki
[07:25] <DarkMageZ> !tell ademan about restricted formats
[07:25] <HBuzacott> mikeeyyyy, where you on yesterday with a different name (michael)?
[07:25] <burepe2> ice228: sorry wrong one
[07:25] <ToHellWithGA> for example, a link from XChat said firefox was already open and i'd have to close it then finally opened firefox a few minutes later.  no worries
[07:25] <acts> basically, i downloaded http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/vmware/Ubuntu-5.10.zip
[07:25] <mikeeyyyy> yes that was me i think
[07:25] <burepe2> !source-o-matic
[07:26] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:26] <mikeeyyyy> i used michael___
[07:26] <burepe2> that one
[07:26] <mikeeyyyy> never michael cause its always taken
[07:26] <acts> and i need to compile this file. gcc -o program program.c and it says  bash " gcc command not found
[07:26] <nickrud> ice228, did you get the pm from ubotu that mentions universe?
[07:26] <acts> what am i doing wrong?
[07:26] <crimsun> acts: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:26] <Ademan> how could one NOT have gcc?!?!
[07:27] <wastrel> mmm build-essential.
[07:27] <sp2hari> Casanova: hey pnayak told me to work from remote system and since i am getting the UI once when i login through SSH , the main problem is over
[07:27] <neotard> Ademan:  it's not installed by default
[07:27] <ToHellWithGA> Ademan: say you wanted your client to have exactly what you give him
[07:27] <neotard> Ademan:  what wastrel said :)
[07:27] <nickrud> I don't have build-essential
[07:27] <crimsun> Ademan: we've had 4 releases with it not installed by default.
[07:27] <dumbledore> wastrel: i put in root (hd1,1)
[07:27] <ToHellWithGA> it'd be good to feed him a pre-packaged setup without tools to customize (and potentially break) too much
[07:27] <sp2hari> sp2hari: now the problem of stdio.h not found, she asked me whether i have set the path for the file, how do i do that ???
[07:27] <Casanova> sp2hari: ok
[07:27] <Casanova> sp2hari: build-essential dude
[07:27] <Casanova> i told you already
[07:27] <dumbledore> wastrel: and it says filesystem type unknown
[07:28] <neotard> you don't get C by default, but you do get an nvidia driver! :D
[07:28] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: hmm, while network and broadcast can be defaulted, omitting them might lead to errors in the code that parses this config file.  Besides, teh defaults may not be right for you.  If the problem persists, try adding them and see if it fixes the problem.
[07:28] <DarkMageZ> Ademan, we don't expect users to build software from source, and if they are going to, they should ATLEAST beable to install build-essentials :P
[07:28] <sp2hari> Casanova: just a sec let me do that
[07:28] <Ademan> crimsun: hmm, for some reason i thought it was installed on my dapper by default... but maybe I was dreaming, and maybe i knew i was gonna need it
[07:28] <dumbledore> wastrel: ,partition type 0x93
[07:29] <neotard> Ademan:  I think the server version has it
[07:29] <wastrel> dumbledore:  is that your ubuntu boot partition?
[07:29] <Ademan> DarkMageZ: hehe, true, i guess even though ubuntu has made leaps and bounds for linux usability, I still think that the majority of users are fairly tech savvy, and probably programmers at least to some degree (or maybe thats just my impression)
[07:29] <dumbledore> wastrel: yes
[07:29] <Cornellius> I have downloaded a window decoration for kde-look, but I don't know where to extract the files. Can someone help me ?
[07:29] <nickrud> first hurdle, build essential
[07:29] <farous> Ademan: the default install should be a lean one. and you are one package away from having it. build essential
[07:29] <hoosier_daddy> DarkMageZ: hey, so everything downloaded and installed. should I be able to run now?
[07:29] <DarkMageZ> hoosier_daddy, yup, "should" work, tho, don't run it while using xgl
[07:29] <hoosier_daddy> it's saying "Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx"
[07:30] <javiolo> I have only 256mb of ram making my swap bigger could make things faster ?
[07:30] <wastrel> dumbledore:  i'm not competent to assist with grub troubleshooting, perhaps some other kind soul will take over from here...
[07:30] <neotard> want to know what confused me more than anything.. after installation not having root ;)   lol, silly.. I know
[07:30] <dumbledore> :/
[07:30] <ToHellWithGA> thanks again ic56.  care to explain why you put a V in ToHellWithGA?  are you a UGA fan?
[07:30] <eFoX> ok, I'm going to write/copy a script. Where can do i save it ?
[07:31] <eFoX> .bashrc ?
[07:31] <DarkMageZ> hoosier_daddy, hmm, odd
[07:31] <eFoX> .bash_profile ?
[07:31] <neotard> eFoX:  for what?
[07:31] <ToHellWithGA> eFoX: /usr/bin i think
[07:31] <nickrud> eFoX, not. those have special uses
[07:31] <wastrel> dumbledore:  you're sure that's where your linux /boot resides?
[07:31] <neotard> eFoX:  if it's just "a script" for something YOU are doing.. just save it in your home directory somewhere
[07:31] <dumbledore> westrel: yes positive
[07:31] <nickrud> eFoX, what is this scrip supposed to do?
[07:32] <dumbledore> westrel: i can sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/fs and browse it
[07:32] <dumbledore> *wastrel
[07:32] <ToHellWithGA> if you want to be able to type "blah" during any terminal session and have it run, save it in /usr/bin and set the permissions to executable for that file
[07:32] <Casanova> which package contains the usual header files like stdio.h?
[07:32] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: Oh!  that's why you weren't noticing my messages. I misread your nick. Second time I've done this today. Maybe my eyesight is deteriorating.  Sorry!
[07:33] <neotard> ToHellWithGA:  that's bad advice.
[07:33] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: What does GA stand for, anyway?
[07:33] <Cornellius> Anyone knows some good card games for Linux ? I would love to play Cribbage under Ubuntu :)
[07:33] <wastrel> Casanova:  glibc i'm guessing or glibc-dev
[07:33] <Novastorm> Casanova, install the build-essentials package
[07:33] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: the university (sic) of georgia, my school's rival
[07:33] <Casanova> Novastorm: installed
[07:34] <wastrel> Casanova:  libc6-dev it seems
[07:34] <farous> neotard: sorry wireless probl
[07:34] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: ah.
[07:34] <ToHellWithGA> neotard: we still haven't heard why he wants this "script" but i find my scripts most useful when i can run them anytime anywhere
[07:34] <ToHellWithGA> what method would you recommend for getting the same functionality?
[07:34] <ruxpin> how do I resolve the current runlevel?
[07:35] <neotard> ToHellWithGA:  the slb suggestion is /usr/local/bin for local installtion binaries, and the like
[07:35] <eFoX> neotard: to kickstart my wireless, I have to configure some ish before it works. I figure to it one go. I think i got it. Google rocks !
[07:35] <crimsun> ruxpin: meaning ``runlevel''?
[07:35] <ToHellWithGA> neotard: i'm somewhat new here.  what is slb?
[07:35] <wastrel> dumbledore:  take a look at the drive numbers in your /boot/grub/menu.lst  :]
[07:35] <javiolo> I have only 256mb of ram making my swap bigger could make things faster ?
[07:36] <wastrel> dumbledore:  if it's root(1,1) i dunno what to tell you :/
[07:36] <neotard> ToHellWithGA:  it's just the standard directory structure recommendations for linux distros :)
[07:36] <dumbledore> wastrel: yeah it is :/
[07:36] <neotard> ToHellWithGA:  among other things
[07:36] <dumbledore> *hd1,1
[07:36] <ToHellWithGA> is it the same thing as the filesystem standard?
[07:36] <nickrud> javiolo, no, only allow you to run more things
[07:36] <neotard> ToHellWithGA:  yeah, it's all part of the same thing
[07:36] <ToHellWithGA> cool.  thanks for the info
[07:37] <farous> !pastebin
[07:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:37] <neotard> ToHellWithGA:  it's generally a Good Thing to keep a modicum of seperation between local files and system files.
[07:37] <nickrud> modicom?
[07:37] <neotard> ToHellWithGA:  not everyone agrees with that :)
[07:37] <javiolo> nickrud so the answer is more ram right ?
[07:37] <Eleaf> hi
[07:37] <Eleaf> you need at least 50000000 gb ram
[07:38] <nickrud> javiolo, absolu damn tutly
[07:38] <Eleaf> If you felt like it
[07:38] <neotard> nickrud:  no, modicum
[07:38] <nickrud> just abit, then
[07:38] <wastrel> dumbledore:  google sez grub bug may change partition type to 0x93 - you can fix with fdisk maybe?  don't wipe your drive 8-O
[07:38] <wastrel> http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?func=detailitem&item_id=13044
[07:40] <ToHellWithGA> javiolo: if you increase the swap size you may be able to run more things simultaneously without "running out of memory" but a lot of that "memory" will be files on your hard drive and much slower
[07:40] <nickrud> hrm, readback can be hell
[07:40] <ToHellWithGA> it would get a lot slower fast if much data gets pushed to swap rather than memory
[07:41] <nickrud> javiolo, in other words, a gig beats 256MB hands down for for permormance at the keyboard
[07:41] <neotard> out of curiousity, anyone with fglrx find that xawtv makes X black out?
[07:42] <XTORTION> hi everyone im running quake 3 i get no sound, this is the error i recive Could not mmap dma buffer PROT_WRITE|PROT_READ
[07:42] <XTORTION> trying mmap PROT_WRITE (with associated better compatibility / less performance code)
[07:42] <XTORTION> /dev/dsp: Input/output error
[07:42] <XTORTION> Could not mmap /dev/dsp
[07:42] <XTORTION>  can any one help me?
[07:42] <XTORTION> wo
[07:43] <dumbledore> wastrel: thx ill give it a shot :O
[07:43] <dumbledore> wastrel: do you know what the id is supposed to be for the ntfs drives too by any chance? im having a hard time finding a list of all the fs numbers
[07:43] <ruxpin> crimsun: the current runlevel..
[07:43] <XTORTION> hello does any one here play quake 3?
[07:43] <crimsun> ruxpin: ``runlevel''
[07:43] <nomasteryoda> Ubuntu ROX
[07:43] <ruxpin> crimsun: ah
[07:44] <ruxpin> crimsun: 'N 2'
[07:44] <javiolo> nickrud Ill try to find 1gb
[07:44] <garryF> I'd just run fdisk and hit the command to see the list of known file system numbers.
[07:44] <ic56> dumbledore: NTFS partitions are code 7
[07:44] <nickrud> javiolo, I
[07:44] <ruxpin> crimsun: what does the 'N' stand for?
[07:44] <nomasteryoda> just got my $22 intel ipw2200 chipset miniPCI card for my laptop, downloaded latest firmware, extracted into /lib/firmware, rebooted and have WPA wifi...
[07:44] <nomasteryoda> again, thanks Ubuntu people
[07:45] <garryF> Nice Try File System
[07:45] <javiolo> nickrud what ?
[07:45] <nomasteryoda> i have 100% power levels now
[07:45] <crimsun> ruxpin: it's the previous runlevel
[07:45] <nickrud> 'm looking for the same; but you can run a lot of stuff in small memory and a reasonable swap. Just monitor it.
[07:45] <crimsun> ruxpin: in this case, it means "no previous one"
[07:46] <ruxpin> ok
[07:46] <ruxpin> the last number is always the current one?
[07:46] <crimsun> XTORTION: your sound hardware doesn't support mmap in the driver, which well, can't be worked around
[07:46] <crimsun> ruxpin: "last current"
[07:46] <crimsun> rather, "previous current"
[07:47] <crimsun> XTORTION: there are some hackarounds that will likely freeze your system.
[07:47] <ruxpin> crimsun: thanks, that's all I need I think :)
[07:47] <crimsun> ruxpin: ``man runlevel'' should explain it
[07:47] <dumbledore> ic56: why isnt grub loading them right then :S
[07:47] <ruxpin> crimsun: except if you know if there's a better tool than sysv-rc-conf to list the runnin daemons
[07:48] <ashzilla> !sources
[07:48] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[07:48] <crimsun> ruxpin: a thorough read of ps and netstat?
[07:48] <JohnnyX> where is the setting so that i dont have to enter my password everytime i close the lid of my laptop?
[07:48] <XTORTION> ?
[07:48] <crimsun> ruxpin: susv-rc-conf is known to break some initscripts' executions
[07:48] <crimsun> sys^
[07:48] <crimsun> XTORTION: what's unclear?
[07:48] <wastrel> JohnnyX:  if you find out, let me know
[07:49] <ruxpin> crimsun: I think it's not installed on ubuntu by default
[07:49] <XTORTION> i have audiophile 2496
[07:49] <JohnnyX> lol wastrel
[07:49] <crimsun> ruxpin: it shouldn't be.
[07:49] <ruxpin> crimsun: is there a tool that is?
[07:49] <ashzilla> !repositories
[07:49] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[07:49] <JohnnyX> no one knows?
[07:49] <crimsun> ruxpin: ps and netstat are both
[07:49] <polpak> wastrel JohnnyX I do
[07:49] <ashzilla> !easysource
[07:49] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:49] <crimsun> ruxpin: you could also look in /etc/rc2.d/
[07:49] <ToHellWithGA> XTORTION: that's a good card.  do you have alsa-tools-gui installed?
[07:49] <ruxpin> crimsun: you can't use ps to match services
[07:49] <JohnnyX> would you care to share that information polpak ?
[07:49] <XTORTION> let me double check
[07:49] <polpak> JohnnyX: I changed my configuration to shutdown the computer when you close the lid instead
[07:50] <ToHellWithGA> XTORTION: if you have to check you don't have it installed
[07:50] <JohnnyX> i dont wanna do that
[07:50] <XTORTION> lol
[07:50] <JohnnyX> i just dont want to have to enter my password everytime i close it
[07:50] <crimsun> XTORTION: have you used the proc tuning?
[07:50] <Wonderbird> Anyone using WUSB54G with 6.06?
[07:50] <JohnnyX> do you know how to do that?
[07:50] <polpak> JohnnyX: I know
[07:50] <ToHellWithGA> XTORTION: do a search in synaptic or aptitude for "envy24"
[07:50] <XTORTION> your right its not
[07:50] <polpak> JohnnyX: one sec
[07:50] <JohnnyX> k
[07:50] <dumbledore> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[07:50] <dumbledore> i changed the numbers back
[07:50] <crimsun> XTORTION: echo "quake3.x86 0 0 direct" |sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[07:50] <dumbledore> then grub went and changed em to 93 again
[07:50] <dumbledore> :/
[07:51] <ToHellWithGA> you'll want the envy24control mixer to properly manage your sound card.  then you can start troubleshooting the game/card combo
[07:51] <dddmt> lightstar: still not working
[07:51] <ic56> dumbledore: other reasons.  I can't find it now but there's an entry in the wiki describing how to correctly setup grub to boot windows partitions.  Try google for: grub windows
[07:51] <crimsun> XTORTION: beware: running q3a afterward may hard-freeze your machine.
[07:51] <ToHellWithGA> crimsun: do you know offhand if that uses alsa?
[07:51] <nickrud> rlfol, my god
[07:51] <ashzilla> Can someone direct me to the default Dapper Sources entry.
[07:51] <crimsun> ToHellWithGA: if what uses alsa?
[07:51] <ToHellWithGA> quake's sound output
[07:51] <polpak> !sources
[07:51] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[07:51] <crimsun> ToHellWithGA: it uses oss
[07:51] <XTORTION> Cok i loaded the alsa gui
[07:51] <polpak> hrm
[07:51] <polpak> !universe
[07:52] <ToHellWithGA> XTORTION: run envy24control
[07:52] <XTORTION> lol not found
[07:52] <ashzilla> polpak: it seems it was removed. I just did a fresh install and it's not there anymore, under the !sources entry.
[07:52] <ToHellWithGA> crimsun: alsa has stuff to play nice with the chipset in his card.  i don't know anything at all about oss sound
[07:52] <polpak> !multiverse
[07:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[07:52] <polpak> ergh
[07:52] <polpak> who messed it up
[07:53] <ToHellWithGA> XTORTION: just so we're on the same page, lets do "sudo apt-get install alsa-tools-gui"
[07:53] <crimsun> ToHellWithGA: I know ALSA works nicely for the ice1724. I backported support for it in Ubuntu.
[07:53] <XTORTION> thats alsready loaded
[07:53] <ToHellWithGA> after than "envy24control"
[07:53] <ashzilla> polpak: This is extremely frustrating. :[
[07:53] <JohnnyX> so how do i set it so i dont have to enter my password everytime i close the lid of my laptop?
[07:53] <ToHellWithGA> it should be there if you've installed it
[07:53] <XTORTION> ok started
[07:53] <ToHellWithGA> crimsun: i can smell your pride now :P
[07:53] <XTORTION> lol
[07:54] <XTORTION> ok i started envy
[07:54] <JohnnyX> what would it be under?
[07:54] <polpak> ashzilla: I can pastebin my sources.lst
[07:54] <ToHellWithGA> XTORTION: use that to set your volume levels as needed.  iirc the first two sliders in the mixer bit are left and right, so don't put L&R max on each.  max L on 1 and R on 2, kapisch?
[07:55] <nickrud> ToHellWithGA, well, he does have standing
[07:55] <polpak> JohnnyX: one sec
[07:55] <JohnnyX> k
[07:55] <crimsun> ToHellWithGA: pride? hardly.
[07:55] <ashzilla> polpak: I'd apprciate that
[07:56] <yaniv> Hello, can anyone tell me how to create an icon on the desktop to  a mounted filesystem (like the one that should be created automatically, but for some reason wasn't)?
[07:56] <garryF> You know what pride comes before don't ye?
[07:56] <catch23> hm, anyone getting slow internet?  i'm getting horrible roundtrips to google/microsoft.com on traceroute
[07:56] <garryF> It comes before smith in the phonebook.
[07:56] <JohnnyX> im having problems with google catch23
[07:56] <ToHellWithGA> garryF: well-written ice1712 chipset stuff?
[07:57] <wastrel> internet not slow
[07:57] <crimsun> ToHellWithGA: (you mean ice1724)
[07:57] <garryF> Nice!
[07:57] <polpak> ashzilla: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16162
[07:57] <watchme> hi
[07:58] <ArmedKing> Can someone tell me how i can burn *.img files, and/or convert it to *.iso?
[07:58] <ToHellWithGA> crimsun: you say potato.  what exactly is a "backport"?  i'm in this game for the free without guilt software more than learning to be a coder
[07:58] <catch23> hm, well i'm based in georgia... so maybe it's comcast's fault
[07:58] <watchme> I have a problem with my Kubuntu/amarok and libvisuals
[07:58] <ashzilla> polpak: Thanks
[07:58] <XTORTION> i still get this error
[07:58] <crimsun> ToHellWithGA: it means the sound stuff that you're touching can be blamed largely on me.
[07:58] <watchme> can anyone help me?
[07:58] <Sir_Brizz> watchme, #kubuntu
[07:58] <XTORTION> Could not mmap dma buffer PROT_WRITE|PROT_READ
[07:58] <XTORTION> trying mmap PROT_WRITE (with associated better compatibility / less performance code)
[07:58] <XTORTION> /dev/dsp: Input/output error
[07:58] <XTORTION> Could not mmap /dev/dsp
[07:58] <XTORTION> -----------------------------
[07:58] <Sjoerd-> does anyone know how to create and configure new users for pure-ftpd?
[07:58] <Sphearion> I was happily suprised that ubuntu saw my wireless card during installl
[07:59] <garryF> I think it's either k3b that can write iso's to a cd
[07:59] <garryF> !iso
[07:59] <ashzilla> polpak: Exactly how I remember mine, thanks :)
[07:59] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:59] <nickrud> soop, ToHellWithGA
[07:59] <Sphearion> k3b resembles nero yes
[07:59] <crimsun> XTORTION: as I was saying before, mmapping /dev/snd is not supported on your chipset
[07:59] <crimsun> XTORTION: sorry, /dev/dsp
[07:59] <XTORTION> hmm
[07:59] <crimsun> XTORTION: did you try the echo line I gave you before (and heed the warning)?
[07:59] <XTORTION> im gona do that 1s
[08:00] <Sphearion> garryF K3B is the KDE burner
[08:00] <ArmedKing> !img
[08:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about img
[08:00] <XTORTION> didnt work
[08:00] <XTORTION> what if i used jacked
[08:00] <XTORTION> i think i herd about that some where
[08:00] <garryF> Yeah, I have gome and k3b and it shows up in gnome too. Older style kde stuff can work in gnome too.
[08:00] <ashzilla> Can someone tell me where I can rename my local domain name: (Ex. ashzilla@ashzilla-laptop <--- the ashzilla-laptop)
[08:00] <farous_> ArmedKing: you can "/msg ubotu" if you want
[08:00] <Tremitos> hello
[08:00] <isofunk> sup
[08:00] <farous_> neotard: sorry dc again
[08:01] <crimsun> XTORTION: quake3 doesn't have a jack output. You can /attempt/ to use the hackarounds that redirect oss to jack (to run via alsa)
[08:01] <JohnnyX> polpak, did you find that thing?
[08:01] <garryF> I wonder what the 3b stands dor.
[08:01] <crimsun> XTORTION: but those require patching the kernel and recompiling
[08:01] <XTORTION> ;/
[08:01] <Gonzo> any reason why i dont see the flash firefox plugin in my synaptic?
[08:01] <wastrel> ashzilla:  be very careful about that - it can break your system...
[08:01] <wastrel> ashzilla:  first change /etc/hosts
[08:01] <farous_> Gonzo: enable extra-repos ?
[08:01] <XTORTION> ok well thanks for your help :) both of you
[08:01] <Gonzo> i did
[08:02] <XTORTION> im gona try and load my onbord audo card
[08:02] <farous_> Gonzo: did you update after that
[08:02] <Gonzo> yes
[08:02] <ToHellWithGA> meh.  thank crimsun b/c he knows what he's talking about.  i'm stabbing blindly using my little experience
[08:02] <crimsun> XTORTION: you could always just use your onboard for q3a and your 2496 for everything else
[08:02] <ashzilla> wastrel: Alright.
[08:02] <farous_> flashplugin-nonfree
[08:02] <polpak> JohnnyX: still looking. Essentially it is in /etc/acpi but you have to be careful how you configure it. Because you do want it to shut off the screen (otherwise it'll waste battery) just don't want it to lock
[08:02] <wastrel> ashzilla:  now change /etc/hostname
[08:03] <XTORTION> thats what i think i will do one problem lol i cant use both i can only use one at a time
[08:03] <XTORTION> stupid asus mb
[08:03] <Gonzo> gonzo@FrankyNux:/home/shared/www/CV$ sudo apt-get flashplugin-nonfree
[08:03] <Gonzo> Password:
[08:03] <Gonzo> E: Invalid operation flashplugin-nonfree
[08:03] <farous_> Gonzo: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:03] <ToHellWithGA> XTORTION: you could also loop it
[08:03] <crimsun> XTORTION: hmm, you should be able to use both.
[08:03] <wastrel> ashzilla:  i think that's it.  using the gui tool breaks sudo and X and other stuff.
[08:03] <XTORTION> loop?
[08:03] <ToHellWithGA> i push my onboard analog out through my M-Audio's analog in
[08:03] <crimsun> XTORTION: ...unless your motherboard has resource allocation problems?
[08:04] <JohnnyX> do you have a file on it polpak or are you looking for that actual settings?
[08:04] <Sphearion> no clue garry
[08:04] <ashzilla> wastrel: Uh oh
[08:04] <ToHellWithGA> the latency is fairly low and then i can play sounds i otherwise couldn't get to agree with the M-Audio card
[08:04] <Gonzo> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[08:04] <ashzilla> ashzilla@ashzilla-laptop:~$ sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[08:04] <ashzilla> ashzilla@ashzilla-laptop:~$ sudo gedit /etc/hostname
[08:04] <ashzilla> sudo: unable to lookup ashzilla-laptop via gethostbyname()
[08:04] <garryF> I wonder if the 3b is the code for the joliet system, that iso uses on cd
[08:04] <XTORTION> its on auto
[08:04] <XTORTION> so wont let me pic
[08:04] <garryF> I treid to find out, but I can't get fdisk to let me at the menu to see the known file types.
[08:05] <garryF> !filetypes
[08:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about filetypes
[08:05] <wastrel> ooops sorry !
[08:05] <garryF> !fs
[08:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about fs
[08:05] <farous_> find flashplugin-nonfree
[08:05] <polpak> JohnnyX: I'm looking over the settings. I have it now though
[08:05] <polpak> wastrel: you want this too?
[08:05] <ashzilla> wastrel: What do I do man, I'm stuck now. lol
[08:05] <wastrel> ashzilla:  fix it by booting to recovery mode and editing those 2 files
[08:05] <wastrel> polpak:  yes!
[08:05] <ashzilla> -.-
[08:05] <ashzilla> Bleh, I have to reboot.
[08:05] <crimsun> Gonzo: you need to have multiverse enabled.
[08:05] <ToHellWithGA> garryF: when i want to hassle ubotu to see what she actually knows i hop in a PM and start spouting off search terms
[08:05] <Gonzo> multiverse?
[08:05] <wastrel> ashzilla:  make sure they match... sorry i thought hosts first then hostname was the right order
[08:06] <dumbledore> aha! ubuntu is booting once again :)
[08:06] <wastrel> yay
[08:06] <ToHellWithGA> she's good for some of the usual topics but google is good as well
[08:06] <crimsun> Gonzo: see query from ubotu
[08:06] <Sphearion> garry no 3b is not the code for joliet
[08:06] <Sphearion> let me ask the great google
[08:06] <dumbledore> now to get windoze to work too... =/
[08:06] <ashzilla> Okay, I'll be back.
[08:06] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel  Ok, sudo cp /etc/acpi/screenblank.sh /etc/acpi/screenblank-nopass.sh
[08:06] <Gonzo> query from ubotu?
[08:06] <farous_> does tell work?
[08:07] <Sphearion> Burn Baby Burn  < 3 B
[08:07] <JohnnyX> polpak,
[08:07] <JohnnyX> cannot stat no such file or directory
[08:07] <dumbledore> woot it workin too :)
[08:07] <polpak> JohnnyX: um.. check again?
[08:07] <dumbledore> thx @wastrel
[08:07] <polpak> JohnnyX: cd /etc/acpi
[08:07] <JohnnyX> i am
[08:07] <JohnnyX> i got it
[08:08] <wastrel> heh yw - if i say enough things sometimes i have to be right
[08:08] <JohnnyX> but it still asks for a password when i close the lid
[08:08] <garryF> ToHellWithGA Good idea.
[08:08] <JohnnyX> do i need to restart?
[08:08] <polpak> JohnnyX: I wasn't done yet
[08:08] <JohnnyX> or kill gnome
[08:08] <JohnnyX> oh sorry
[08:08] <neotard> farous:  thanks, was setting it up wrong.. using the xinerama option in conjunction with a multihead setup, which wasn't working obviously :)
[08:08] <dermawan123> hello
[08:08] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel now sudo nano screenblank-nopass.sh
[08:08] <crimsun> Gonzo: a private message from the bot
[08:08] <neotard> farous:  now to figure out tvcard issues under the proprietary ati driver.
[08:09] <Gonzo> i didn't get none...
[08:09] <farous_> neotard: you are welcomed
[08:09] <william_> hello
[08:09] <sdfsfd> yo
[08:09] <farous_> neotard: flgrx is buggy it might be harder for tvcard though i never used it
[08:09] <william_> man I just installed this the other day
[08:09] <sdfsfd> im on mirc in linux tee hee
[08:10] <william_> :D
[08:10] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel remove the line that says ". /usr/share/acpi-support/screenblank"
[08:10] <ToHellWithGA> william_: hi.  what's up?
[08:10] <william_> Man ubuntu is cool !
[08:10] <william_> This is my first time with linux
[08:10] <william_> I got this cd from my school
[08:10] <dermawan123> guys need help here, who can i talk to?
[08:10] <ice228> where would i put the files i downloaded to change my login screen? i think its gdm
[08:10] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel remove the line that says ". /usr/share/acpi-support/screenblank"
[08:10] <sdfsfd> ubuntu is pretty good for linux
[08:10] <wastrel> doh polpak did i miss anything :]
[08:10] <sdfsfd> i am surprised too
[08:10] <neotard> farous:  radeon driver works beautifully, under fglrx the whole set of screens literally black out and don't ever recover.  not good :D
[08:10] <sdfsfd> i came from gentoo
[08:10] <ToHellWithGA> william_: it's so easy compared to redhat/fedora or mandrake
[08:10] <sdfsfd> because all other distros sucked
[08:11] <william_> I totally deleted XP off my computer
[08:11] <ice228> in what folder would i put the files to change my login screen ?
[08:11] <william_> and am using all the progs I can with Ubuntu :D
[08:11] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel replace it with this line instead  "xset dpms force off" #don't use the quotes
[08:11] <garryF> /boot/grub I believe
[08:11] <ToHellWithGA> william_: i hope you didn't jump the gun.  i found out that my Sony jukebox software won't run under WINE
[08:11] <william_> I recorded my first song with ubuntu tonight!
[08:11] <ice228> thanks
[08:11] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel good so far?
[08:11] <Sjoerd-> anyone knows how to use/configure pure-ftpd via cli? I have it running but have no idea how to add new users.
[08:12] <Sphearion> say your out of blank cd's but you have alot of blank dvd's could you burn the iso to dvd and would it still be usable?
[08:12] <ToHellWithGA> everything else about free software was great, but no way to transfer music to/from my minidisc player kinda hurts
[08:12] <JohnnyX> sorry hang on
[08:12] <Freenux> Salut tout le monde ;)
[08:12] <wastrel> polpak:  rgr
[08:12] <JohnnyX> ive never used nano b4
[08:12] <william_> Well, I actually screwed up a partition with a ton of homework on it by mistake, trying to re install windows no doubt
[08:12] <ashzilla> wastrel: I now have my correct hostname, however... I can't sudo
[08:12] <garryF> I bet it has strick format rules tho, such as the file type and resolution, I could be wrong.
[08:12] <ice228> and how do i give myslef permission to write to folders?
[08:12] <william_> Ah man
[08:12] <polpak> JohnnyX: you can use a different editor if you prefer
[08:12] <william_> Using your MD is easy with linux
[08:12] <Sphearion> ill be a guinea pig, ill burn the 700meg iso to a dvd and see if it still works ;)
[08:12] <wastrel> ashzilla:  what happens?
[08:12] <polpak> JohnnyX: just need to replace that line
[08:12] <william_> You gotta download the plug in for real player
[08:12] <ice228> how do i give myself wrtie right ?
[08:12] <william_> And real player is supported !
[08:12] <ashzilla> wastrel: nm, I actually retyped my password wrong 3 times. I'm a novice. :o
[08:13] <wastrel> k :]
[08:13] <ice228> wrtie right*
[08:13] <Freenux> y aurait-il une personne qui parlerait en franais ?
[08:13] <polpak> JohnnyX: you caught up?
[08:13] <wastrel> !fr
[08:13] <william_> Anyway, my SUPPORT question is
[08:13] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:13] <Sphearion> wasting dvd NOW!
[08:13] <Freenux> merci ubotu ;)
[08:13] <william_> why is ubuntu running so sluggish on my computer?
[08:13] <Freenux> thank you ubotu ;)
[08:13] <polpak> william_:  sluggish in what way?
[08:14] <william_> like, a delay
[08:14] <JohnnyX> thats it polpak
[08:14] <polpak> william_: and what are your specs
[08:14] <polpak> JohnnyX: no
[08:14] <Sphearion> what kind of video card do you have?
[08:14] <polpak> JohnnyX: just making sure you don't have any questions/problems so far
[08:14] <JohnnyX> oh ok
[08:14] <william_> AMD 900 with 256 megs of ram 80 gig HD 8 meg on board video
[08:14] <ice228> how can i give myselft write rights?
[08:14] <DShepherd> what is the defualt keyboard layout for dapper?
[08:14] <JohnnyX> could we take this to a pm polpak
[08:14] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel ok, save the file and exit nano
[08:15] <polpak> we're almost done
[08:15] <JohnnyX> alright
[08:15] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel now sudo nano /etc/acpi/events/lidbtn
[08:16] <Sphearion> ahh johnny is setting up a laptop :)
[08:16] <JohnnyX> :)
[08:16] <polpak> JohnnyX: comment out the action= line
[08:16] <JohnnyX> k
[08:16] <polpak> and make a new line that says action=/ec/acpi/screenblank-nopass.sh
[08:16] <polpak> err
[08:16] <polpak> /etc/acpi/screenblank-nopass.sh
[08:17] <Sphearion> ITS OFFICIAL you can burn the 700meg iso to a DVD instead of a cd if you happen to be out of CD's (waste of a dvd though)!
[08:17] <ice228> can anyone please tell me who to give myself write right or find my root password?
[08:17] <william_> lol
[08:17] <JohnnyX> k
[08:17] <william_> scroll up a few lines :D ice228
[08:17] <Sphearion> ice228 boot linux single and change the root pass ;)
[08:17] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel so it should now read action=/etc/acpi/screenblank-nopass.sh
[08:17] <Lopa> i've recived Ubuntu linux cd's and i just installed on my system but i don't know what is the root password
[08:17] <Ademan> is there a "more detailed" way to set change your theme? like specific theme preferences and such?
[08:17] <garryF> !tell ice228 about sudo
[08:18] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel save and exit this file
[08:18] <Lopa> ?
[08:18] <JohnnyX> k
[08:18] <Sphearion> hey polpak i might need your help in a bit :)
[08:18] <william_> Lopa scroll up a lttle,
[08:18] <Lopa> There is nothing for me up
[08:18] <william_> So is the sluggishness my videocard^
[08:18] <ice228> thank you :)
[08:18] <Sphearion> you seem to be the resident Linux on Laptop expert :)
[08:18] <william_> ?
[08:18] <JohnnyX> is that it polpak ?
[08:19] <garryF> Thank the bot. :)
[08:19] <william_> Can I totally strip down the graphics of the OS ^
[08:19] <Sphearion> probably william_
[08:19] <Sphearion> yeah change your /etc/inittab to 3
[08:19] <Sphearion> and poof no more Xorg
[08:19] <william_> whats Xorg?
[08:19] <JohnnyX> did you find this out off the site polpak or did you just figure it out
[08:19] <polpak> JohnnyX: need to restart the acpid daemon
[08:20] <Sphearion> the "windows" interface... all the graphics
[08:20] <JohnnyX> how do i do that
[08:20] <william_> oh cool one sec I will try this
[08:20] <Sphearion> william_
[08:20] <Lopa> it ask for root password when i try to configure something or install something
[08:20] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel: sudo /etc/init.d/acpid restart
[08:20] <ashzilla> when do I need the restricted modules for my kernel?
[08:20] <Lopa> i give there my user password it says sorry wrong password
[08:20] <polpak> JohnnyX: figured it out
[08:20] <garryF> The api that allows a gui to start. if you change to runlevel 3, youg et a command line interface.
[08:20] <Sphearion> hit ctrl+alt+f2
[08:20] <Sphearion> and login
[08:20] <Sphearion> thats what you will have
[08:20] <polpak> Sphearion: what's up?
[08:20] <JohnnyX> is there a site that you know that teaches you all the little tips and tricks like this
[08:20] <garryF> Hmmm, might have mistyped it.
[08:20] <william_> OH Geez amn I dont want a command line interface hahaha
[08:21] <Lopa> Guys please help me
[08:21] <JohnnyX> like the little things that no one ever asks
[08:21] <Sphearion> polpak im setting up ubuntu 6 on my laptop...
[08:21] <Sphearion> its still installing though
[08:21] <polpak> JohnnyX: hrm.. not that I know of
[08:21] <polpak> JohnnyX: just sorta get used to it all after a while
[08:21] <JohnnyX> i know nothing about the file hierachy of linux
[08:21] <polpak> JohnnyX: and asking around helps
[08:21] <JohnnyX> like where everything goes and what not
[08:21] <Sphearion> william_ ctrl-alt-f7 to get back into the gui
[08:21] <JohnnyX> thanks for your help
[08:21] <JohnnyX> life saver
[08:21] <garryF> Yeah, or even know to ask. Such a site would be good. It probably exists somewhere.
[08:21] <polpak> JohnnyX: oh.. read the filesystem heirarchy
[08:21] <Lopa> i am doing apt-get install samba, it ask for root password
[08:22] <JohnnyX> on ubuntu.org?
[08:22] <Sphearion> JohnnyX there is alot of good info on the forums and here too :0
[08:22] <polpak> JohnnyX: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[08:22] <polpak> JohnnyX: anyway, the fix worked?
[08:22] <Sphearion> !tell Lopa about sudo
[08:22] <JohnnyX> yes thanks a bunch
[08:22] <garryF> when sudo asks for a password, enter your regular user password.
[08:22] <polpak> wastrel: you good also
[08:22] <polpak> wastrel: ?
[08:22] <wastrel> polpak:  no, i'm still getting a password prompt
[08:23] <JohnnyX> i think he left
[08:23] <JohnnyX> oh
[08:23] <polpak> wastrel: did you restart the acpi daemon?
[08:23] <wastrel> oui
[08:23] <Lopa> garryF, i am doing apt-get install samba, it ask for root password
[08:23] <ice228> still says i dont have permission to write to the folder : /
[08:23] <Sphearion> lopa you need to sudo passwd root and make a password for root :)
[08:23] <polpak> wastrel: can you pastebin both /etc/acpi/events/lidbtn and /etc/acpi/screenblank-nopass.sh ?
[08:24] <Madpilot> Sphearion, no he doesn't...
[08:24] <Lopa> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[08:24] <JohnnyX> i heard its pretty common for su not to accept the password but sudo does fine
[08:24] <Sjoerd-> how do i extract a tar.gz file via cli?
[08:24] <garryF> Lopa It should not be duioni that., wow, didn't know that Sphearion.
[08:24] <Lopa> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[08:24] <JohnnyX> i reinstalled and now im having the same thing
[08:24] <JohnnyX> i can use sudo but not su
[08:24] <garryF> Ack, I hate my keyboard.
[08:24] <wastrel> nvm it worked after i restarted again thx polpak
[08:24] <Sphearion> i tend to like my root password different from my user password
[08:24] <polpak> JohnnyX: that's because the root account is disabled
[08:24] <Sjoerd-> garryF: can i have it?
[08:24] <Sphearion> and I have used fedcore 4 for so long its habit to know this kind of stuff ;)
[08:24] <Lopa> should I do: "sudo passwd root"
[08:24] <Lopa> ?
[08:24] <garryF> Sjoerd hehe
[08:25] <polpak> Sphearion: I tend to like not having a root account active at all
[08:25] <Sphearion> no Lopa
[08:25] <polpak> Lopa: no
[08:25] <Lopa> why not?
[08:25] <Sphearion> polpak just rename it to something else ;)
[08:25] <polpak> Lopa: use sudo
[08:25] <Sphearion> then root is no longer root :)
[08:25] <JohnnyX> i cant remember where to enable it
[08:25] <Sphearion> Lopa type sudo apt-get install samba-server
[08:25] <Sphearion> then put in your user pass if asked for one
[08:25] <Sphearion> polpak how long have you been using linux?
[08:26] <polpak> Since 95 or so
[08:26] <JohnnyX> how do you enable root?
[08:26] <Sphearion> not bad..
[08:26] <DaveyJ> i'm back
[08:26] <garryF> Running in root is like working in a fireworks factory with candles as your lighting. One little boo boo and you are a crispy smoking piece of charcoal.
[08:26] <polpak> but I've only been using it exclusively for a year
[08:26] <Ademan> anyone know why my laptop can't power down? my understanding is it has something to do with acpi or apm
[08:26] <polpak> before that I dual booted
[08:26] <DaveyJ> okay so here's the prediciment that i left off with.....
[08:26] <Sphearion> garryF not true
[08:26] <wastrel> ls
[08:26] <JohnnyX> good analogy garryF
[08:26] <polpak> JohnnyX: there's no reason to do that and lots of reasons not to
[08:26] <Sphearion> garryF I have never messed up a system running as root
[08:26] <JohnnyX> polpak, its just in case
[08:26] <Sphearion> i have however messed up a system running as root when it was not intended.. :)
[08:26] <JohnnyX> so i know
[08:27] <DaveyJ> i'm running ubuntu off a partition on the same drive as the windows partition (which is about to be formatted to ext3 for storage) .. will that mess up my mbr>
[08:27] <polpak> JohnnyX: for the "just in case" moments you have a recovery mode
[08:27] <garryF> Sphearion I am just quoting commonly accepted advice.
[08:27] <polpak> JohnnyX: for all other moments you have sudo
[08:27] <nickrud> DaveyJ, no not at all
[08:27] <Sphearion> bah sudo su - works great for me :0
[08:27] <polpak> JohnnyX: and in the case of catestrophic failure you need to have a recovery/live cd
[08:27] <william_> well that sucked
[08:27] <ruxpin> DaveyJ: your mbr won't be touched by simply moving files
[08:27] <nickrud> DaveyJ, assuming your ubuntu boots
[08:27] <JohnnyX> i have five
[08:28] <polpak> Sphearion: sudo -i works just as well
[08:28] <DaveyJ> hda1 = win, hda2 = ubuntu
[08:28] <indy2> I am looking for a text to speech program from Ubuntu. Any suggestions? PS: KSayIt sucks balls.
[08:28] <Sphearion> nice.. forgot about that one ;)
[08:28] <william_> Ok so I just cold shut downed cause I coulnt leave the command promt
[08:28] <DaveyJ> so when i format hda1, there'll be no probleM?
[08:28] <Sjoerd-> I have a .deb file on my server, how do i use it to install the pacakage? Just running doesn't seem to work :) Any idea's?
[08:28] <garryF> say JohnnyX Thanks.
[08:28] <JohnnyX> well thanks for all your help polpak
[08:28] <Sphearion> william_ i told you ctrl+alt+f7 gets you back
[08:28] <JohnnyX> sleep now work tomorrow
[08:28] <ic56> DaveyJ: no. the Linux filesystem doesn't use teh first sector of its partition.  This is wasteful but ensures formatting can never cause an MBR to be overwritten.
[08:28] <polpak> william_: you can alwasy ctrl-alt-delete to restart w/o using the power off button
[08:28] <nickrud> DaveyJ, if your ubuntu boots, and you don't touch your ubuntu rooot, do whatever with windows, please ;)
[08:29] <william_> I must of been in command screen before I read that :D
[08:29] <DaveyJ> alright nice
[08:29] <william_> cool thanks :D
[08:29] <DaveyJ> i'm gunna go format that
[08:29] <DaveyJ> i just backed up everything i wanted to keep
[08:29] <william_> Is that the only way to strip down the graphics for ubunto?
[08:29] <Sphearion> ctrl-alt-f1->f6 are console f7-f12 can be gui (yes you can run multiple instances of the x client :))
[08:29] <polpak> william_: what kind of computer do you have again?
[08:30] <Sphearion> polpak I think he said a 900mhz with 128meg ram and 8meg onboard vid card
[08:30] <william_> amd 900 256 megs of ram 80 gig HD and 8 meg onboard
[08:30] <wastrel> william_:  you can use a lightweight windowmanager like sawfish, blackbox, icewm or wmaker
[08:30] <Sphearion> fxce
[08:30] <polpak> that should be plenty even for gnome
[08:30] <william_> Thanks for the help btw guys :D this is really great!
[08:30] <Sphearion> FXCE FTW
[08:31] <william_> SO I can download these?
[08:31] <polpak> william_: you can try just installing the x desktop packages
[08:31] <Sphearion> probably with apt :)
[08:31] <wastrel> polpak:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16163   it didn't work :]
[08:31] <polpak> william_: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:32] <garryF> Yeah, I've read that kde which is what xbuntu uses, uses less memory.
[08:32] <william_> will this erase my ubuntu?
[08:32] <Lopa> ny one know where i can get kdepim?
[08:32] <polpak> william_: no
[08:32] <Sphearion> garryF xbuntu uses fxce if im not mistaken
[08:32] <wastrel> xfce
[08:32] <Sphearion> err yeah
[08:32] <wastrel> fvwm
[08:32] <Sphearion> sorry i have lysdexia
[08:32] <avalost> william_: you can run virtually ANY wm you like with that machine, I have run KDE, Gnome and virtually every light-weight wm with a celeron 533mhtz and 256 of ram
[08:32] <william_> Cool :D
[08:33] <william_> Thanks for the advice!
[08:33] <garryF> OH I stand corrected I was thinking of Kbuntu. Thanks for seting me straight Sphearion
[08:33] <avalost> no worries
[08:33] <william_> So this GNOME thing, its the GUI part of my UNIX ?
[08:33] <wastrel> gnome is a gui
[08:33] <polpak> wastrel: that looks fine.. it should work if you restart the acpi daemons.. You may also need to restart acpi-support and apmd but it should really work with just acpid restarted
[08:33] <william_> (the file is dling right now)
[08:33] <william_> ok
[08:33] <avalost> Gnome is a window manager like KDE, fluxbox, icewm etc
[08:33] <Sphearion> william_ gnome is a window manager, that sits ontop of a xorg client that connects to the xorg server...... i think thats right
[08:33] <lightstar> gnome is a DE
[08:34] <garryF> DE?
[08:34] <Prodigy> wtf
[08:34] <william_> So If I wanted to switch back to the Ubuntu layout, is it easy? Or do I need to reinstall?
[08:34] <lightstar> desktop environment
[08:34] <avalost> a wm(window manager) is what renders and displays graphical windows to your desktop
[08:34] <Sphearion> i think he meant desktop environment. but thats not 100% true
[08:34] <Prodigy> kazile picko
[08:34] <Sjoerd-> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureFTP <- the package suggested for installation seems to be i386 while I need the AMD64 one, any idea where to get it?
[08:34] <avalost> william_: what do you mean 'ubuntu' layout?
[08:34] <polpak> william_: the GUI is made up of 3 parts. The X server (which is what actually makes stuff display on the screen) the Desktop Environment (used to manage the desktop, panels, etc) and the window manager (used to create boarders and titlebars and control window positioning, etc)
[08:34] <Prodigy> neces da budes mali paradajz a
[08:34] <avalost> text-based?
[08:34] <michael_> Does wine have a GUI?
[08:35] <garryF> Yes, you will get a menu wher you can choose your default be it gnome, xfce or Kde.
[08:35] <lightstar> Sphearion, eh? gnome is a full fledged DE rite? flux is a WM? or did i get it mixed up
[08:35] <michael_> if does how do u open it
[08:35] <Sphearion> startx :0 (first window manager (ctrl+alt+f7)     startx :1 (2nd window manager ctrl+alt+f8) and you can add more if you need ;)
[08:35] <Sphearion> gnome, kde,etc all are window managers
[08:35] <wastrel> lightstar:  that's right
[08:35] <polpak> Sphearion: no, their desktop environments
[08:35] <polpak> Sphearion: the default WM in gnome is metacity
[08:35] <michael_> how do u run wine?
[08:36] <Sphearion> no the place where my monitor sits is a desktop invironment
[08:36] <indy2> Ubuntu: any suggestions for a text to speech progrm?
[08:36] <william_> ok so I just downloaded this package, it installed (I think) now I just ctrl alt f8?
[08:36] <Sphearion> ohh forgot about that polpak good call'
[08:36] <Sphearion> i stand correct
[08:36] <lightstar> wastrel, thx..i knew it was sth like tat...aint thinking straight at the mo
[08:36] <Sphearion> corrected
[08:36] <polpak> Sphearion: but you can use other WM's in gnome
[08:36] <Sphearion> sawfish
[08:36] <Sphearion> umm
[08:36] <michael_> How do u run wine please help
[08:36] <Prodigy> kazil picko
[08:36] <william_> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:36] <Prodigy> neces da budes mali paradajz
[08:36] <kazil> oi freak
[08:37] <Prodigy> a?
[08:37] <Prodigy> dodji paradajzu
[08:37] <polpak> michael_: wine /path/to/windows/program.exe
[08:37] <lightstar> for example openbox:P
[08:37] <polpak> william_: did you run that command yet?
[08:37] <william_> Yup!
[08:37] <michael_> e.g wine /program files/rockstar games/GTA3/gta3.exe like this???? in terminal?
[08:37] <Sphearion> does ubuntu have switchdesk?
[08:37] <william_> now it seems to be done
[08:38] <polpak> michael_: sure, but if you have spaces you need to quote or escape them
[08:38] <william_> do I restart my computer?
[08:38] <Sphearion> or can you change them at the login screen now? I forget about 5.04 was the last ubuntu I used
[08:38] <michael_> k but how would i nistall gta3 on ubuntu lol
[08:38] <Sphearion> william_ in linux you should very rarely restart your computer
[08:38] <polpak> michael_: and also I doubt you have program files in your root dir
[08:38] <lightstar> Sphearion, switchdesk? u mean switch to diff desktops?
[08:38] <kazil> frik ajm negde drugde
[08:38] <william_> Oh really? Why? I thought that was a good thing
[08:38] <polpak> michael_: wine /media/cdrom/gtainstall.exe or whatever
[08:38] <Prodigy> ?
[08:39] <michael_> k
[08:39] <Sphearion> lightstar no I mean like switchdesk it was a CLI / GUI app that allowed you to choose different window managers / D E 'S
[08:39] <ashzilla> When I try to remove gnome-games in Synaptic, why does it say it's removing ubuntu-desktop
[08:39] <kazil> daj neki dobar kanal
[08:39] <Sphearion> http://www.transgaming.com/ << -- easiest way to make windows games work on linux
[08:39] <Prodigy> UBUNTU SUCKS ASS
[08:39] <polpak> william_: if you log out.. there will be a button on the login screen marked "session" if you click it you should be able to choose xfce intstead of gnome for your login
[08:39] <ashzilla> I imagine it's NOT a good idea to remove 'ubuntu-desktop'
[08:39] <polpak> !ops
[08:39] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[08:39] <william_> Awesome! Thanks!
[08:39] <Madpilot> Prodigy, go troll somewhere else
[08:40] <lightstar> Sphearion, ohh...good question actually..i end up editing my .xsession file to change it
[08:40] <Prodigy> MADPILOT SUCK BRICK
[08:40] <william_> Ubuntu rocks man, I don't know why anyone wouldnt like it!
[08:40] <Sphearion> william_ do you use alot of windows applications?
[08:40] <suspekt> whazap
[08:40] <Seveas> Madpilot, do those bricks taste any good? ;)
[08:40] <william_> I'm so impressed with this OS now man, it's changing everything for me
[08:40] <michael_> Ubuntu Ownz
[08:40] <Madpilot> Seveas, wouldn't know :)
[08:40] <william_> YUP hahaha
[08:40] <garryF> Frequent rebooting is a pactice used on Windows systems to counter the problems caused by windows memory fragmentation, and memomry leaks.
[08:40] <william_> I'm a producer :D
[08:40] <suspekt> anyone know how to get fortune to run everytime i launch a terminal
[08:40] <william_> I make a lot of music.
[08:40] <wastrel> ashzilla:  actually it's fine that's just a metapackage, no need to keep it
[08:41] <Sphearion> william_ linux will be good to you then :)
[08:41] <william_> BUt lately I have been using a lot of freeware
[08:41] <ashzilla> wastrel: good to know.
[08:41] <michael_> what u put for a space between program files?
[08:41] <michael_> in terminal
[08:41] <Sphearion> william_ now that your in linux, you will only need to reboot after updating the kernel and a few other misc changes to the core system :) thats always nice ;)
[08:41] <william_> I recently had a Viunyl released on an Australian Breakcore label called KILLBOT RECORDS, the whole thing was made with an open source prog called SKALE TRACKER