[21:52] <stefg> tehtrk_: the only way of having the actual kernel source for the running kernel is pulling ben collins' git tree ... as described in the factoid. You might consider going for a vanilla kernel from kernel,org
[21:52] <d_tech123> with a GEforce go 7400 running restricted drivers
[21:52] <Kris07> Is there anyone who can help?
[21:52] <unf> DWSR2, nop, its usb2, in fact it starts copying quite fast, but it turns ultraslow in a few seconds
[21:52] <fallore> Kris07: whats the exact problem?
[21:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Xintruder: See if the people in #Compiz can find answers..   ATI video card perhaps.  driver (ManuallY Installed) issue? or ?
[21:52] <tehtrk_> I thought about going to #ubuntu-kernel, but thats more of a dev channel
[21:52] <th0r> iceman_ if that is what you are after look at sshfs
[21:52] <d_tech123> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=651172
[21:53] <Kris07> A few days ago, I ran the upgrade manager, and since then my scroll has been acting really weird, it lags all the time, and on any program.
[21:53] <th0r> iceman_  now THAT you can mount
[21:53] <unf> graft, it lasts copying a simple mp3 more than a minute
[21:53] <T1m0thy> I am trying to unzip a large file and I'm getting "error:  invalid compressed data to inflate" in terminal.
[21:53] <DWSR2> graft: What's a quick command to compare two files?
[21:53] <rodolfo> graft: and how can i use it? I looked for documentation on the web but nothing that helpful so far...
[21:53] <Xintruder> link the thread. I use a sony vaio sz premium... wierd...
[21:53] <Xintruder> sorry
[21:53] <Xintruder> got it
[21:53] <graft> DWSR2: diff?
[21:53] <graft> rodolfo: what are you trying to get?
[21:53] <tehtrk_> stefg: thanks I didn't see that
[21:53] <DWSR2> graft: by files I do mean folders >.<
[21:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Kris07: I never saw an answer ... Did you ever use or try to use automatix...?
[21:53] <chef_> can anyone here tell me anything about iplist?
[21:53] <tehtrk_> mmmm, git...
[21:53] <DWSR2> !iplist
[21:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iplist - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:54] <Lord_Illidan> I'd like to ask, does anyone have a problem with buttons remaining seemingly "pressed" after mouse over in open office?
[21:54] <graft> DWSR2: redirect the output from ls to two files and do a diff?
[21:54] <Lord_Illidan> I dunno how to express the problem, but to try it out..open OpenOffice, and use the Draw Toolbar for instance
[21:54] <DWSR2> graft: heh, thanks. :-)
[21:54] <DWSR2> good enough.
[21:54] <gcb> hi all. How do I download all packages to install VLC on a machine w/out internet?
[21:54] <chef_> ubotu: thx
[21:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:54] <Lord_Illidan> Click on the flowchart button, open a dialog
[21:54] <rodolfo> graft: intel video driver (xf86-video-intel-2.2.0) using this -> #git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel
[21:54] <Lord_Illidan> and upon mousing-over the buttons in that dialog, you should see that the buttons look wierd..like this : http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/d803bb93bd.png
[21:55] <graft> rodolfo: sudo apt-get install git-cvs, then run that command
[21:55] <Lord_Illidan> can anyone help with that? Has anyone seen that particular problem before?
[21:55] <iceman_> th0r what is ssh?
[21:55] <graft> !ssh | iceman_
[21:55] <fallore> Lord_Illidan: try asking your problem all in one line, it will greatly increase your chances of getting the answer you want
[21:55] <ubotu> iceman_: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[21:55] <T1m0thy> I am trying to unzip a large file and I'm getting "error:  invalid compressed data to inflate" in terminal.
[21:55] <Lord_Illidan> Sure. Has anyone seen a bug in office that looks like this : http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/d803bb93bd.png
[21:56] <fallore> test
[21:56] <esper]> hello
[21:56] <ubuntu> hi, when ever i try to boot up after it goes through the grub instead of going to a login screen it goes to a black and white screen and it says "BusyBoxv1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash)" then goes down a line and says "(initramfs)" i cant boot up or anything, what is this error and how can i fix it?
[21:56] <finn> hi
[21:56] <finn> is anybody using a bluetooth keyboard and experiencing lag?
[21:57] <esper]> does anyone know how to setup an ubuntu server so that i can  use it as a host for http tunneling?
[21:57] <fallore> wow, you got the name ubuntu :D bravo
[21:57] <rodolfo> graft: so basically, git-cvs does the same that apt-get does?
[21:57] <finn> I didn't use the computer for 2 months and now the wireless apple keyboard is lagging like hell
[21:57] <Xintruder> d_tech123: so u think its the hardware?
[21:57] <graft> rodolfo: no, not at all
[21:57] <finn> is there a standard solution to this?
[21:57] <finn> (batteries are brand new)
[21:57] <ompaul> !tell ubuntu about bootoptions (have a look at the apic and apci options onthis web page)
[21:57] <iceman_> th0r is putty the client version?
[21:58] <ghlala> hi all
[21:58] <ubuntu> ompaul: what?
[21:58] <ghlala> how do I display a list of running applications?
[21:58] <ompaul> !bootoptions | ubuntu (have a look at the apic and apci options onthis web page)
[21:58] <ubotu> ubuntu (have a look at the apic and apci options onthis web page): For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[21:58] <ghlala> in KDE I use "crtl+esc"
[21:58] <ghlala> how about gnomne?
[21:58] <DWSR2> christ ls -alR /dev/sdb1 takes forever >.<
[21:58] <th0r> iceman_ of sshfs? No....sshfs allows me to mount my server as a folder in my home directory. don't know what the windows version would be.
[21:59] <DWSR2> th0r: You could use WinSCP to explore SSH shares.
[21:59] <ghlala> is there anyone that can help?
[21:59] <ghlala> how do I display a list of running applications?
[21:59] <graft> wow, who knew that keybinding existed in KDE?
[21:59] <Lord_Illidan> Well...has anyone seen a problem like mine before? To test..it's quite simple:  Fire up OpenOffice, go to the Draw Toolbar, select something like Flowchart, and in the popup dialog, you should notice that the buttons remain pressed after a mouseover
[21:59] <graft> ghlala: top?
[21:59] <high-freq> ghlala, ps aux
[21:59] <DWSR2> tabbed terminals ftw.
[21:59] <th0r> iceman_ ssh is a secure telnet...and sshfs works via the same mechanism. Putty does do ssh, but not sshfs
[21:59] <ghlala> graft: I want it in a windowed view
[21:59] <ghlala> not console
[22:00] <ompaul> !offtopic | DWSR2 (it is support only, not running commentaries ;-))
[22:00] <ubotu> DWSR2 (it is support only, not running commentaries ;-)): #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:00] <th0r> DWSR2 really...will make note of that and have some folks do some experimenting with it. I don't use windows...so have to depend on others for that info <smile>
[22:00] <DWSR2> th0r: Yeah, you're welcome. WinSCP essentially turns SSH into an FTP server. Ultra nice. :-)
[22:01] <th0r> DWSR2 yeah...I use sftp which sounds like the same thing.
[22:01] <iceman_> th0r i'm not in windows btw but ok...so i just need something to access ftp server not to worried about how secure it is...but yeah so what do i download?
[22:01] <ghlala> how do I display a list of running applications?
[22:01] <DWSR2> It is, yeah.
[22:01] <Phusion> iceman_: gftp is good for a graphical one
[22:01] <th0r> DWSR2 going to work with some friends and see if it is the same thing
[22:01] <DWSR2> iceman_: You're trying to access an FTP server from Linux?
[22:01] <Phusion> iceman_: ncftp for command line is nice
[22:02] <jqk> ghlala: check your ps
[22:02] <DWSR2> The default file managers all support FTP, I believe.
[22:02] <th0r> iceman_  is it  a windows server?
[22:02] <fallore> graft: system > preferences > sessions > current session tab
[22:02] <graft> fallore: eh?
[22:02] <iceman_> ok thats good. th0r i don't know if its a windows server but more than likely it is. i don't own the server i just use it
[22:03] <fallore> graft: in the top bar hit the "system" button. from there navigate to preferences, and then sessions. it will open a window where you can click the current session tab
[22:03] <adaminla> Does myspace work in ubuntu (firefox)?
[22:03] <ghlala> is there something similar to KDE's "ctrl+esc" in gnome?
[22:03] <fallore> adaminla: yes, it does. the internet works just the same in windows and ubuntu :]
[22:03] <graft> fallore: why are you telling me this?
[22:03] <fallore> graft: weren't you asking how to display a list of what programs were running?
[22:03] <th0r> iceman_ then what you use to access it depends on what they have isntalled. If youjust want ftp access...use gftp
[22:03] <fallore> damn! it was ghlala,  not graft. my bad :p
[22:04] <evil_tech> anyone have xubuntu running on an IT8212 ide raid controller  (either as raid or not)
[22:04] <fallore> ghlala: : system > preferences > sessions > current session tab
[22:04] <iceman_> ok so sudo apt-get gftp ?
[22:04] <iceman_> install*
[22:04] <th0r> iceman_ that should work
[22:04] <ghlala> cool
[22:04] <ghlala> thanks guys
[22:04] <iceman_> k thanks
[22:04] <iceman_> lataz
[22:04] <fallore> np ghlala, hope i helped
[22:04] <adaminla> Some of the videos don't seem to work on my kids site.
[22:04] <quaal> how do you chmod recursively
[22:04] <fallore> adaminla: do you know if they are flash videos?
[22:04] <DWSR2> chmod -R
[22:04] <stefg> -r
[22:05] <DWSR2> quaal: chmod -R
[22:05] <DWSR2> The capitalization of command line switches matters.
[22:05] <DWSR2> quaal: chmod -R <mask> <target>
[22:05] <graft> what's especially annoying is that recursive chown is chown -r
[22:05] <esper]> anyone around that can help me out with http tunneling?
[22:05] <DWSR2> graft: yeah
[22:05] <adaminla> no i don't. flash is installed.
[22:05] <graft> wait, no it's not!
[22:05] <macd> yeah its not
[22:05] <macd> chmod is -r
[22:05] <graft> must hav been fixed
[22:05] <fallore> also adaminla, when you respond it would be very helpful if you included my name in the message, it hightlights it.
[22:05] <macd> chown is -R
[22:05] <DWSR2> chown accepts both I think.
[22:05] <macd> negative
[22:06] <DWSR2> meh.
[22:06] <Jack_Sparrow> adaminla: Depending on when flash was installed.. it is broken even if it shows as installed
[22:06] <DWSR2> Must have fixed it.
[22:06] <tanlaan> I have a question about the CPU Frequency Monitor, why can I not use its functionality to "dynamically" scale my CPU frequency? right now I do not have to the choice to either change the frequency or the "Governers" which decide how to scale my CPU
[22:06] <graft> they're finally consistent!
[22:06] <th0r> esper] I've done ssh tunneling, but not http tunneling
[22:06] <tehtrk_> I always do -R for both
[22:06] <fallore> adaminla: did you recently install flash/ubuntu? did you install flash through firefox?
[22:06] <DWSR2> Been a while since I've chowned anything. I'm the only user normally.
[22:06] <graft> well, chmod -r should be 'remove read flag'
[22:06] <DWSR2> yeah.
[22:06] <esper]> im basically trying to figure out how i can configure apache or some other service to accept a tunnel from my laptop
[22:06] <DWSR2> but that's assuming that you don't supply a mask.
[22:06] <evil_tech> anyone have xubuntu running on an IT8212 ide raid controller  (either as raid or not)
[22:06] <DWSR2> If you do chmod -r 777, that's a bit pointless, and offtopic. AnYWAYS!
[22:07] <adaminla> Fallore: flash through ubuntu synap.
[22:07]  * DWSR2 shuts up.
[22:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashissues
[22:07] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[22:07] <fallore> adaminla: yeah, theres a problem with flash recently where it wont properly install/work if you download it through synap or firefox
[22:07] <fallore> adaminla: what ubotu just said is what you need :]
[22:08] <th0r> esper] strange...the only google reference to http tunneling is under firewall piercing <smile>
[22:08] <fallore> adaminla: if you need additional help installing flash just ask :]
[22:08] <esper]> my lan admin is pretty cool, but doesn't want to go through the trouble of openning ports because of all the paper work involved
[22:08] <esper]> so he'll let me tunnel out through http if i can set it up
[22:09] <th0r> esper] http://www.nocrew.org/software/httptunnel.html
[22:09] <esper]> ssh is internal only though :/ otherwise i would be set
[22:09] <adaminla> falloreOk i'll need to go back to my kids place.
[22:09] <fallore> adaminla: alright, good luck :]
[22:09] <esper]> thanks th0r
[22:09] <graft> esper]: what are you trying to setup?
[22:09] <th0r> esper]  there is even a debian package
[22:09] <macd> esperj: privoxy should also do what you want.
[22:09] <tinin> lets complain for the slow flash videos and firefox crashes here: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2007/12/flash_player_9_update_3_final.html
[22:09] <adaminla> fallore, can I just remove flash and reinstall it?
[22:09] <BostonGeorge> mnb
[22:10] <rockzman> How do I tar all files with X name?
[22:10] <fallore> adaminla: as long as when you reinstall it you do it like ubotu said, then yes, thats the solution
[22:10] <tinin> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
[22:10] <esper]> th0r: i have alot of down time at work and basically want to forward my WoW connection and also be able to access my network
[22:10] <pike_> rockzman: like tar vfc tarfile.tar *.txt ? i dunno if that works or not
[22:10] <th0r> esper] yo no se nada
[22:10] <macd> rockzman, "man tar" if you know howto use tar, then specify the filenames with wildcards so x*.*
[22:10] <graft> esper]: if your home connection can handle it, settingup a VPN via SSH is probably your best bet
[22:10] <esper]> ~network's connection for when I'm trying to look at sites that the firewall blocks like linux forums
[22:11] <Omnimon-X> Does anyone know how to kill X server display without restarting my comp? I have an irc server running on this comp and I don't want to kill it...
[22:11] <graft> esper]: but be advised you'll be limited by your upload bandwidth if you tunnel anything from home
[22:11] <Omnimon-X> It locked up, lol
[22:11] <esper]> yah im going to do that aswell, but ssh out of the network isnt possable
[22:11] <graft> Omnimon-X: ssh is your friend
[22:11] <macd> Omnimon-X, crtl+alt+backspace restarts it, to kill it use sudo /etc/init.d/xorg stop
[22:11] <esper]> i have a pretty rock solid 3mbps dsl line
[22:11] <Omnimon-X> lol
[22:11] <Omnimon-X> k
[22:11] <Omnimon-X> thanks
[22:11] <Omnimon-X> lol
[22:11] <esper]> with a static ip
[22:12] <Omnimon-X> hmmm
[22:12] <Omnimon-X> keyboard is locked up in display
[22:12] <macd> Omnimon-X, yeah my mistake its x11-common ;P
[22:12] <Omnimon-X> lol
[22:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !lol > Omnimon-X
[22:13] <tehtrk_> As near as I can tell, there is nothing ubuntu server specific in the ubuntu kernel git repository, either.......
[22:13] <finn> what could be the cause for my bluetooth keyboard to start lagging?
[22:13] <WinShade> !lol | WinShade
[22:13] <finn> it makes it almost worthless to me and I think I need a wired one again :(
[22:13] <tehtrk_> finn: too close to the receiver?
[22:13] <Omnimon-X> macd, it didn't work
[22:13] <Omnimon-X> display is still locked up
[22:13] <macd> Omnimon-X, stop gdm also then
[22:14] <finn> how close is too close?
[22:14] <Omnimon-X> k
[22:14] <finn> and can that really cause problems?
[22:14] <rockzman> How do I tar all files on my machine with X name?
[22:14] <slipttees> well...i have problem with session of my bro
[22:14] <tehtrk_> within about 3 inches
[22:14] <slipttees> metacity don't work !
[22:14] <tehtrk_> yes it can
[22:14] <slipttees> :S
[22:14] <slipttees> i need help
[22:14] <finn> no, it's about as far away as my foot
[22:14] <slipttees> my session work metacity ok
[22:14] <tehtrk_> then that's not it
[22:14] <DWSR2> !grub
[22:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:14] <slipttees> but, session my little bro no :-(
[22:15] <Jack_Sparrow> rockzman: Good info on the help page for backup if you want it..
[22:15] <speedbird> can anyone help me with pidgin upgrade in gusty ? i have downloaded 3 files from debget but i dont know how to uninstall previous ver.
[22:15] <mtretin> I've just installed Ubuntu 7.10, and everything works great -- except that my CDROM idsn't recognized; same problem with debian lenny
[22:15] <Jack_Sparrow> speedbird: Use synaptic
[22:15] <finn> I didn't change any bluetooth software either
[22:16] <Omnimon-X> macd, still locked up
[22:16] <slipttees> someone ?
[22:16] <stefg> tehtrk_: the source is the same for all editions. the -server kernels are just compiled with a different config, afaik. But there is no magic in the  ubuntu kernel sources, mainly it's restricted drivers and added hardware support what makes an ubuntu kernel. if you don't need particular hardware supported a vanilla source is just fine to build a kernel for a ubuntu box
[22:16] <fallore> i have a file copied somewhere else as a backup. i want to use that file to replace the edited one, but it's telling me i don't have permission. how can i replace it?
[22:16] <macd> Omnimon-X, does ps ax | grep X in console list any processes?
[22:16] <rodolfo> graft: i type the command on the terminal but nothing happens.
[22:16] <speedbird> Jack_Sparrow : and select what ? :s
[22:16] <Jack_Sparrow> fallore: sudo  or gksudo
[22:16] <Sonicadvance> My laptop has a wireless card, and it is connecting using dhcp upon startup. Is there anyway to make it so it connects to my router at the login screen instead of at startup?
[22:16] <tehtrk_> stefg: oh cool, then I'll just reuse the config I have now, thanks!!
[22:17] <graft> rodolfo: what command?
[22:17] <TonKi> fallers: sudo cp /backup /file
[22:17] <ouellettesr> is there a difference in mini pci and mini pci express?
[22:17] <TonKi> in terminal
[22:17] <rodolfo> graft: should I call git?
[22:17] <Omnimon-X> macd, it lists tty2 and thats it
[22:17] <JordiGH> When converting mp3 to Vorbis, is there a way to do it without losing audio quality? I get the feeling that if mp3 already cuts out inaudible frequencies, that there's no reason for Vorbis to cut them out again?
[22:17] <rodolfo> graft: #git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel
[22:17] <fallore> TonKi:  alright thanks
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> speedbird: gaim if feisty or pidgin if gutsy
[22:17] <tehtrk_> finn: did you change anything major? Upgrade to gutsy, anything like that?
[22:17] <Sonicadvance> ouellettesr, Mini PCI is bigger than Mini PCI express. Mini PCI is based off of PCI and Mini PCI express is based off of PCI express
[22:17] <graft> rodolfo: what happens when you type it? you're not typing the #, are you? (you shouldn't)
[22:17] <macd> Omnimon-X, you see that number in front of tty2, well issue command "sudo kill -9 number"
[22:17] <Omnimon-X> k
[22:18] <ouellettesr> thanks Sonicadvance
[22:18] <speedbird> Jack_Sparrow its pidgin and i m on gusty
[22:18] <fallore> TonKi: would this be correct? sudo cp /home/alexander/Documents/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:18] <Omnimon-X> macd, it says no such process
[22:18] <rodolfo> graft: without "#" | terminal returns to me 'bash: git:command not found'
[22:18] <graft> rodolfo: did you do sudo apt-get install git-cvs?
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> speedbird: tag for removal
[22:19] <Omnimon-X> macd, I entered the command again and the number is different
[22:19] <macd> Omnimon-X, if the number in front of tty2 was 1234 you issued sudo kill -9 1234 right?
[22:19] <DWSR2> Does anyone here have a good knowledge of GRUB? I'd like to set up GRUB on my MBR in order to facilitate a completely Windows dual-boot system.
[22:19] <JordiGH> Blagh, the non-free Adobe flash player keeps freezing my Firefox. Die die die, Adobe. >:-(
[22:19] <macd> Omnimon-X,   ohh, interesting, different number
[22:19] <Jack_Sparrow> DWSR2: Single or dual drives....?
[22:19] <DWSR2> single.
[22:19] <rodolfo> graft: oh crap...i just built it's dependencies...hehe =x
[22:19] <speedbird> Jack_Sparrow : tag what ? :(
[22:19] <Omnimon-X> it was originally 12238
[22:19] <Omnimon-X> macd
[22:19] <Omnimon-X> but it went up
[22:19] <swanberg> How does one get the propriatary (broadcom) netword drivers for a new install of Gibbon? W/o a network connection? O.o
[22:20] <DWSR2> Jack_Sparrow: single.
[22:20] <DWSR2> swanberg: Hope to god ndiswrapper comes with the CD? :D
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> speedbird: Did you find pidgin in synaptic and is it tagged as installed on your system
[22:20] <fallore> TonKi: would this be correct? sudo cp /home/alexander/Documents/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:20] <macd> Omnimon-X, that makes sense, did you issue both "sudo /etc/init.d/x11-common stop" and "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[22:20] <Omnimon-X> yeah
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> speedbird: If you have windows installed first, the automatic installer works very well... I suggest you do manual partitioning and have a second partition for /home
[22:21] <speedbird> oh yes older ver is installed the one which comes with gusty .. .but i want to upgrade to newer ver.
[22:21] <DWSR2> Does anyone here have a good knowledge of GRUB? I'd like to set up GRUB on my MBR in order to facilitate a completely Windows dual-boot system on a single drive.
[22:21] <Omnimon-X> macd, now what? keyboard is still locked up on the screen where the display usually is, and there is a black screen
[22:21] <fallore> can anyone tell me if this command would copy the sources list from the documents folder to the etc/apt folder? "sudo cp /home/alexander/Documents/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list"
[22:21] <Jack_Sparrow> speedbird: Per the instructions where you just downloaded.. you MUST remove the old one first.
[22:22] <stefg> !grub | DWSR2
[22:22] <ubotu> DWSR2: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:22] <macd> Omnimon-X, well reverse the stop with start now on those 2 commands, and hopefully X will come back up with a login prompt
[22:22] <Priit_M> Hi! Is there workgroups between linux-linux machines as well, or only between linux-windows/windows-windows machines?
[22:22] <speedbird> Jack_Sparrow :  yeah thats what i dont know .. how to remove the old one ?  :s
[22:22] <macd> Priit_M, if both windows machines use samba for sharing, yes there is.
[22:22] <macd> Priit_M, err both linux *
[22:22] <DWSR2> stefg: Looked.
[22:22] <Priit_M> ok, thanks
[22:22] <DWSR2> stefg: Don't really help me.
[22:23] <Jack_Sparrow> speedbird: In synaptic...  click the little bow where you would select to install it.. there is an option to remove it
[22:23] <Jack_Sparrow> box
[22:23] <Omnimon-X> macd, now the numlock is blinking on the screen
[22:23] <Omnimon-X> but its still black
[22:23] <fallore> can anyone tell me if this command would copy the sources list from the documents folder to the etc/apt folder? "sudo cp /home/alexander/Documents/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list"
[22:23] <macd> Omnimon-X, Im fresh out of ideas then to be honest, better warn your users reboot iminenet ;P
[22:23] <swanberg> DWSR2: :-\ I do have another ubuntu host near, on Feisty. Can I use that to get the drivers?
[22:23] <Flare183> fallore: cp
[22:23] <Omnimon-X> lol
[22:23] <stefg> DWSR2: ##windows .... you could use grub for it using the 'chainload' command, but why not simply use windows boot.ini ? 'nuff offtopic ... /j ##winows
[22:23] <fallore> Flare183: thats the command i'm using
[22:23] <macd> fallore, yes it will
[22:24] <DWSR2> swanberg: Yeah.
[22:24] <fallore> thanks macd
[22:24] <JordiGH> fallore: It would. Be careful you don't typo anything while you write that. ;-)
[22:24] <Flare183> fallore: then your doing it right
[22:24] <fallore> JordiGH: Flare183: macd: awesome, ty :]
[22:24] <Flare183> fallore: np
[22:24] <JordiGH> fallore: GNU isn't meant to be forgiving when you're typing "sudo this" and "sudo that".
[22:24] <JordiGH> fallore: So be careful...
[22:24] <macd> Omnimon-X, but dont give up, someone else here is sure to have another idea, maybe Jack_Sparrow  ;)
[22:24] <speedbird> Jack_Sparrow : I found pidgin but there is another file named : pidgin-data and if i will search for pidgin i m sure i will find some more .. i just wanna know which one i have to remove to uninstall it ?
[22:24] <Sonicadvance> sudo punched yourself in the face
[22:25] <Jack_Sparrow> speedbird: Uninstall anything pidgin
[22:25] <fallore> JordiGH: i am :] this box is mostly a practice run, if i mess up something here it wouldn't be catastrophic
[22:25] <maguko> Is there a known reason why using the madwifi driver in an Atheros AR5212 would cause a full system lock-up at sporadic intervals?
[22:25] <swanberg> DWSR2: can you give me a hint how?
[22:25] <speedbird> Jack_Sparrow
[22:25] <Fingel> How can I tell which displays are in use on a particular machine? so I can set DISPLAY=(whatever)
[22:25] <rodolfo> graft: it worked. Thank you :)
[22:25] <graft> rodolfo: np
[22:25] <DWSR2> swanberg: Removable media.
[22:25] <JordiGH> maguko: Of course not, because madwifi uses non-free software, so it's entirely possible that your system is locking up and there's no way to find out why. :-(
[22:26] <TonKi> fallore: you can autocomplete with tab (folder files commands)
[22:26] <swanberg> DWSR2: yes, I know that. I mean, do I use apt-get? And if so, how? Doesn't it default to it's own distribution?
[22:26] <maguko> JordiGH, such is what I feared.  I'm already posing the question to #madwifi  :)
[22:26] <unagi> my sound wont work.........says something is using it........but there isnt anything
[22:26] <maguko> Just wanted to know if there was something documented already.  Would save some headache in tracking down this pretty-severe bug.
[22:26] <aladdinsane> Why do i have to be a superuser to mount this ntfs disk:
[22:26] <aladdinsane> UUID /media/Xp        ntfs     user,noauto,rw  0      0
[22:26] <aladdinsane> while i can mount this one just fine as user:
[22:26] <aladdinsane> UUID /media/Hdd2        ext3     user,noauto,rw  0      0
[22:26] <aladdinsane> (and yes, i want them to be unmounted at boot up)
[22:27] <Flare183> !ops | aladdinsane
[22:27] <ubotu> aladdinsane: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[22:27] <Omnimon-X> macd, I tried to remote desktop to my computer, but got an error, lol
[22:27] <LjL> !paste | aladdinsane
[22:27] <ubotu> aladdinsane: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[22:28] <capo> my xorg.conf disappeared and now my drivers wont work.  anyway I could get the .conf back?
[22:28] <macd> capo, you prolly have a xorg.conf.bak in there
[22:28] <macd> capo, how/why did you delete it ;)
[22:29] <TonKi> capo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg if no backup
[22:29] <Tigerplug> hey room
[22:29] <stefg> capo: if you're lucky there's backup files in /etc/X11 ... watch out for files enfing with ~ or datecodes
[22:29] <WindowSmasher> Hey all, my friend is having trouble with his broadcom wireless card being limited to 24 mb/s instead of it's full capability of 54 mb/s.  Any advice (besides don't buy broadcom)?
[22:29] <Tigerplug> Looking for some advice on desktop customization and enabling compix
[22:29] <Tigerplug> *compiz in gutsy
[22:29] <nickrud> !compiz | Tigerplug
[22:29] <ubotu> Tigerplug: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[22:29] <rockzman> how to transfer a file using scp?
[22:29] <zcode> TonKi: What does -phigh do?  It's on in the mna page
[22:30] <bundagan> i've tried all nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx-new, none of them work with my mx4000; what gives?
[22:30] <clawfire_> rebonsoiiir
[22:30] <Flare183> Tigerplug: try in #compiz-fusion
[22:30] <clawfire_> (c'est ubuntu__)
[22:30] <neverblue> rockzman, man scp
[22:30] <rockzman> neverblue, f off dude im not asking how to see scp manual
[22:30] <JordiGH> rockzman: "scp thefile_here theserver_there:new_filename"
[22:30] <rockzman> im asking how can i transfer that
[22:30] <speedbird> Jack_Sparrow : i searched for "pidgin" and i found 22 files !!
[22:30] <stefg> bundagan: mx400 needs -legacy (for starters)
[22:30] <aladdinsane> Why do i have to be a superuser to mount this ntfs disk:UUID /media/Xp        ntfs    user,noauto,rw  0      0while i can mount this one just fine as user:UUID /media/Hdd2        ext3    user,noauto,rw  0      0
[22:30] <neverblue> !language | rockzman
[22:30] <Flare183> !scp | rockzman
[22:30] <ubotu> rockzman: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[22:30] <ubotu> rockzman: SCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/
[22:30] <nickrud> !rtfm
[22:30] <ubotu> Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[22:30] <bundagan> stefg, is mx400 and mx4000 the same?
[22:31] <zcode> rockzman: scp localfile user@remotehost:/dir
[22:31] <WindowSmasher> !noOneCares | neverblue
[22:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about noonecares - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:31] <Jack_Sparrow> speedbird: Remove pidgin  and pidgin-data...    then install fresh pidgin
[22:31] <ikonia>  WindowSmasher drop the attitude
[22:31] <stefg> bundagan: not really, but it's close enough. and it might not meet the minimum /safe/ specs, so it's disabled on purpose for that card
[22:31] <rockzman> Flare183, thanks and JordiGH  thanks
[22:31] <JordiGH> rockzman: If you omit new_filename, it'll be the same.
[22:31] <Flare183> rockzman: no problem
[22:31] <Aeleon> sup, ladies & gentlemen.
[22:31] <WindowSmasher> Heeeeere we go.  Have a good one gents!
[22:32] <rockzman> JordiGH, [root@gw060302 tmp]# scp teste.tar.bz2 <IP_ADDRESS>:teste.tar.bz2
[22:32] <rockzman> it is on my / ?
[22:32] <capo> TonKi: I get this error '/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xor is not installed'
[22:32] <JordiGH> rockzman: Oh, and this is assuming you have the same username both here and in theserver_there.
[22:32] <speedbird> Jack_Sparrow : and what about libpurple ? as i also downloaded that from getdeb.
[22:32] <JordiGH> rockzman: Why are you doing this as root?
[22:32] <zcode> rockzman: It will only work if ssh is enabled on the remote end
[22:32] <Jack_Sparrow> speedbird: Sure.. pull it too
[22:33] <speedbird> ok
[22:33] <speedbird> Jack_Sparrow : ok thanks :)
[22:33] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[22:33] <nickrud> rockzman: yes, it will try to write that to /   , you need to give a file path to your home
[22:33] <bundagan> stefg, what should i do? compile my own drivers from nvidia website?
[22:33] <WNxCryptic>  How do I setup non-local accounts for vsftpd?
[22:33] <Aeleon> I've got a networking question that involves my ubuntu box at home.
[22:34] <Flare183> !ask | Aeleon
[22:34] <zcode> rockzman: You might also want to look at rsync
[22:34] <ubotu> Aeleon: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:34] <stefg> bundagan: no, get a newer card :-) you can get a FX5200 for ten bucks
[22:34] <Aeleon> Just getting your attention, Flare183. :]
[22:34] <Aeleon> I can SSH to my box at home from her ein the UK,
[22:34] <hyper__ch> ubuntuforums.org admin online?
[22:34] <Flare183> Aeleon: still do please ask the question
[22:34] <aladdinsane> Why do i have to be a superuser to mount this ntfs disk:UUID /media/Xp        ntfs    user,noauto,rw  0      0while i can mount this one just fine as user:UUID /media/Hdd2        ext3    user,noauto,rw  0      0
[22:34] <Aeleon> and I want to set up a VPN.
[22:34] <dualmonitorqs> if I create say a 60 gig partition on a hard drive that has a physical size of 120 gigs, can I use dd to copy the 60 gig drive to only the 60 gig partition of the hd?
[22:34] <neverblue> Aeleon, ask in one line please
[22:34] <Tigerplug> how do I enable emerald theme manager? - is it part of compiz?
[22:34] <ikonia> hyper__ch: join #ubuntuforums
[22:34] <hyper__ch> ikonia: thx
[22:35] <twavisdegwet> so ughh howcome when i try to install stuff it says it couldn't find my kernel version? any ideas
[22:35] <bundagan> stefg, all i have in this motherboard is a single PCI slot, so this card was the best option.
[22:35] <dualmonitorqs> whoops, I didn't ask my question very well
[22:35] <Flare183> !vpn | Aeleon
[22:35] <ubotu> Aeleon: From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[22:35] <nickrud> Tigerplug: install emerald , that will pull in the theme editor
[22:35] <neverblue> twavisdegwet, mind supplying output from your programs? using pastebin please
[22:35] <macd> dualmonitorqs, in theory that would work fine, some disk manufacturers ship tools that do what you want with new drives, and the method is similar to dd
[22:35] <maguko> hm.  How do I check the version of my currently installed madwifi driver?  I'd look it up in synaptic, but it's part of the linux-restricted-modules meta package.
[22:35] <Aeleon> Originally I thought that if I could SSH to my Ubuntu box I could just sort of .. use the internet connection on it. I want access to BT and an MMO that my uni's IT dept's firewall is blocking.
[22:35] <neverblue> !pastebin | twavisdegwet
[22:35] <ubotu> twavisdegwet: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[22:36] <twavisdegwet> sorry i can't..
[22:36] <twavisdegwet> i'm not connected to the internet on linux
[22:36] <neverblue> twavisdegwet, are you using apt/aptitude to install ?
[22:36] <neverblue> ah, then your not
[22:36] <dualmonitorqs> if I want to copy a 60 hd to a 60 gig partition on a larger usb drive using dd will that work?
[22:36] <twavisdegwet> ughh i'm justrunning an autoinstall.in
[22:36] <neverblue> twavisdegwet, not sure what you mean...
[22:36] <Aeleon> Flare183, does that help with Ubuntu server-side or client-side? My client is Vista, my ubuntu box is my server at home.
[22:37] <stefg> bundagan: sadly your hardware will not allow you to run compiz, it seems. it takes /some/ GPU horsepower, if you don't provide it, you can't run it ...
[22:37] <WNxCryptic> How do I create / set permissions for Virtual (non-local) users on vsftpd? And can I limit that access only to /var/www  ???
[22:37] <WNxCryptic> Create users / Set permissions***
[22:37] <Aeleon> Oh, both. THanks.
[22:37] <twavisdegwet> it's a driver and there is a file that says autostart.in i ran that with like sudo /home/twavsidegwet/Documents/source/autoinstall.in
[22:37] <Flare183> Aeleon: client-side I think
[22:37] <Muskrat> howdy
[22:37] <ffm> What is the best free personal finance software for ubuntu?
[22:37] <twavisdegwet> and i get an error that my version cannot be determined
[22:37] <macd> WNxCryptic, I think you need to read the documentation, and config file examples
[22:37]  * swanberg will try again tomorrow.
[22:38] <bundagan> stefg, i'm not shooting for compviz, i'd just like to see glxgears running over 2,000 fps.  i'm going to compile drivers now.
[22:38] <macd> WNxCryptic, its all covered pretty well from me just glancing at the man pages
[22:38] <Muskrat> nalioth, I didn't know you were in here.  :-)
[22:38] <Muskrat> I need help
[22:38] <ompaul> ffm, you could look at gnucash
[22:38] <neverblue> twavisdegwet, is there an INSTALL or README included, or documentation online for installing it ?
[22:38] <WNxCryptic> macd: I've read through both thoroughly...I spent a long time trying to give local-system users full access until I realized..well, you couldn't.
[22:38] <twavisdegwet> yes it says to run the autoinstall
[22:38] <twavisdegwet> and i did
[22:38] <twavisdegwet> lol
[22:38] <ffm> ompaul: does it auto-magicaly import data from banks?
[22:38] <WNxCryptic> macd: ill take another look I suppose.
[22:38] <tomtt> question: I am looking into what hardware to buy for a setup with at least to large displays. Any (pointers to) recommendations on what is best supported by Ubuntu?
[22:38] <aladdinsane> Why do i have to be a superuser to mount this ntfs disk:UUID /media/Xp        ntfs    user,noauto,rw  0      0while i can mount this one just fine as user:UUID /media/Hdd2        ext3    user,noauto,rw  0      0
[22:38] <aladdinsane> help, anyone?
[22:38] <tomtt> *two
[22:39] <ikonia> tomtt: you just need generic linux support
[22:39] <ikonia> !hcl | tomtt
[22:39] <ubotu> tomtt: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[22:39] <neverblue> twavisdegwet, network card driver, wired or wireless ?
[22:39] <ompaul> ffm, you asked for it - it has the best rep I have no idea what it does I use a spreadsheet (living a simple life ;-))
[22:39] <Muskrat> I'm trying to play DVD's, and it seems to work ok.  but the picture is WAY too bright
[22:39] <nalioth> Muskrat: just ask your question  ;)
[22:39] <twavisdegwet> neverblue : wireless
[22:39] <Muskrat> I don't know how to fix it
[22:39] <wiske57_> Is there a way to install ubuntu to a laptop w/o a CD drive?
[22:39] <macd> WNxCryptic, I see a config directive that allows local users to login to ftp, as well as limit them to their home directory
[22:39] <ablyss> aladdinsane: you can change the ownership of the drive while root and allow yourself to mount it normally
[22:39] <neverblue> twavisdegwet, check the forums, that will be your best solution
[22:40] <ffm> ompaul: ah. Thansk
[22:40] <ffm> *thanks
[22:40] <bildpunkt> does anybody know a tool for ebay, so i wont miss any auction?
[22:40] <macd> WNxCryptic, all within the top 40 or so lines of the file (that I might mention is documented itself)
[22:40] <twavisdegwet> wiske: format a jumpdrive to fat 32 using a formatingtool make it bootable and install it that way?
[22:40] <bildpunkt> something like a timer
[22:40] <ikonia> bildpunkt: nothing I'm aware of
[22:40] <nalioth> Muskrat: that sounds like a hardware problem to me (but i may be wrong)
[22:40] <Muskrat> I don't think it is
[22:40] <Muskrat> I used to be fine with windows
[22:40] <Muskrat> it's this ubuntu program
[22:40] <nickrud> ffm: yes gnucash will import quicken compatible files
[22:40] <Muskrat> it's only when I play DVD's
[22:40] <ablyss> aladdinsane: chown -r owner:group /media/Hdd2
[22:41] <Flare183> !enter | Muskrat
[22:41] <ubotu> Muskrat: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[22:41] <ffm> nickrud: thx
[22:41] <wiske57_> twavisdegwet: good till the boot, old BIOS. Any way to boot from floopy?
[22:41] <macd> WNxCryptic, so chroot the users to their home dirs, then use a symbolic link to their directory within /var/www/
[22:41] <twavisdegwet> lol floopy's are a little bit small
[22:41] <stefg> Muskrat: check different players like mplayer and vlc... totem had some issues in the past
[22:41] <aladdinsane> ablyss: you mean by right clicking it in nautilus and choosing preferenses for example? cause i did that and set the group to my user, still doesnt mount without me changning to root
[22:42] <twavisdegwet> wiske:floopies are a lil bit small i don't see how it would be possible.. condsider ordering the cd off of the site if it is a problem
[22:42] <Aeleon> Uh, I'm trying to install pptpd as indicated in this faq i was listed (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD) but when I try to apt-get it, it "couldn't find th package". I'm SSH'ed to my box, what do I do?
[22:42] <wiske57_> twavisdegwet: should be a way to make boot & root disk
[22:42] <WinShade> question
[22:42] <capo> is there any way to get my xorg.conf back if there aren't any backups?
[22:42] <twavisdegwet> wiske: there could be but i'm not sure of it :D
[22:42] <Flare183> !ask | WinShade
[22:42] <ubotu> WinShade: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:42] <aladdinsane> ablyss: ok, maybe im wrong, but doesnt that just affect the folder after it has been mounted? since thats the mount point?
[22:42] <WinShade> i have ubuntu installed, i want to update the bios but the update only comes in an exe file... any ideas?
[22:42] <ablyss> aladdinsane: hmm yes.. i think you actually have to be root to mount it
[22:43] <twavisdegwet> winshade: use wine?
[22:43] <capo> is there any way to get my xorg.conf back if there aren't any backups?
[22:43] <stefg> WinShade: freedos, ultimate boot cd ....
[22:43] <wiske57_> twavisdegwet: have CD but no drive
[22:43] <nalioth> Muskrat: try another media player
[22:43] <WinShade> freedos?
[22:43] <Muskrat> stefg, VLC is doing the same thing.  the picture is clear enough, but it's still unnaturally bright
[22:43] <WinShade> will wine work?
[22:43] <aladdinsane> ablyss: so its a ntfs issue then?
[22:43] <Muskrat> it might be a little better, though
[22:43] <Aeleon> Uh, I'm trying to install pptpd as indicated in this faq i was listed (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD) but when I try to apt-get it, it "couldn't find the package". I'm SSH'ed to my box, what do I do?
[22:43] <twavisdegwet> wiske: well i'd go with my jumpdrive idea or looks like u gotta go buy a cd drive lol refer to newegg.com that's where there cheapest i think
[22:43] <ogre> hey anybody here running linux on a mac? actually the question is does linux recognize macintosh partitions in a dual boot scenario
[22:44] <stefg> Muskrat: hmmm... might be an issue with your video driver and xv accelerated video...
[22:44] <ablyss> aladdinsane: not sure.. far as I know you have to sudo mount all drives except usb drives
[22:44] <Flare183> WinShade: maybe doubt it because ubuntu is controling hte mine part of your computer
[22:44] <twavisdegwet> i'm running linux on an xbox? i think that's close enough
[22:44] <WinShade> figures
[22:44] <wiske57_> twavisdegwet: have USB drive, maybe I can find way to load drivers first...
[22:44] <Aeleon> that's cool, twavisdegwet; what do you actually do with that?
[22:44] <WinShade> ok so freedos it is
[22:44] <Flare183> *the
[22:44] <rjackson> WinShade: boot from an ultimate boot cd to freedos and run it?
[22:44] <noodles12> !readahead
[22:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about readahead - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:45] <WinShade> freedos runs windows in it? i've never used it before
[22:45] <Safiyyah> wiske, borrow a CD drive that plugs unto USB?
[22:45] <twavisdegwet> Aeleon: softmodding.. needed deviced : pro action replay/mega x-key / copy of ghostreacon/mechassualt/007 agent under fire a dvd burner and a brain :D
[22:45] <Flare183> !variants
[22:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about variants - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:45] <Muskrat> nalioth, as a separate issue, I still can't play windows games on here at all
[22:45] <rjackson> WinShade: you can boot to a free dos environment on something like ultimate boot cd, and run it from there
[22:45] <WinShade> ok
[22:45] <WinShade> will do
[22:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Muskrat about wine
[22:45] <Aeleon> so can you do everything an xbox does + other stuff?
[22:45] <aladdinsane> ablyss: no if u use "user" in fstab you normally dont have to be root to do it, as i wrote above i can mount my other drive perfectly fine
[22:46] <wiske57_> twavisdegwet: yes, have one if I can load drivers first. Will try.
[22:46] <rjackson> WinShade: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[22:46] <Muskrat> nalioth, I tried using wine.  it's not working too well
[22:46] <Aeleon> & yo, I swear my question is simple, can nobody even say "I don't know" when I ask it?
[22:46] <Safiyyah> wiske57, how is windows even on it without a CD drive?
[22:46] <twavisdegwet> Aelon: burned games.. emulators.. basic applications.. skins... did i say burned games?
[22:46] <rjackson> Aeleon: i dont know...
[22:46] <nalioth> ubotu tell Muskrat about cedega
[22:46] <sideshow> hoi
[22:46] <Aeleon> do you even know the question, rjackson?
[22:46] <Aeleon> Uh, I'm trying to install pptpd as indicated in this faq i was listed (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD) but when I try to apt-get it, it "couldn't find the package". I'm SSH'ed to my box, what do I do?
[22:46] <rjackson> Aeleon: i dont know
[22:46] <Aeleon> rjackson: good. at least i know you're useless and won't bother with you again.
[22:46] <wiske57_> Safiyyah: there is nothing on it
[22:46] <twavisdegwet> wiske: do not try do :D
[22:47] <SmoothOp> I GOT MY SDS
[22:47] <SmoothOp> CDS
[22:47] <SmoothOp> not that i need them
[22:47] <SmoothOp> but i really wanted stickers
[22:47] <ikonia> SmoothOp: ?
[22:47] <Aeleon> ..
[22:47] <wiske57_> twavisdegwet: Good attitude!
[22:47] <Flare183> !offtopic
[22:47] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:47] <rjackson> Aeleon: you asked if anyone would not say i dont knnow if you asked a question...i said i dont know... but thx for the compliment
[22:47] <Safiyyah> wiske57_, i think travis has an answer, mine would be to get a USB cd drice
[22:47] <twavisdegwet> smoothop: ya i wanted those 2.. put it right over my designed for windows xp..
[22:47] <Safiyyah> drive*
[22:47] <Flare183> !offtopic | SmoothOp
[22:47] <ubotu> SmoothOp: please see above
[22:47] <SmoothOp> k
[22:48] <thedoc2097> Somebody can tell me how i get the LILO bootloader in the mbr
[22:48] <Aeleon> rjackson: Say "I don't know" if you actually don't know. I'm looking for response of any kind, at this point.
[22:48] <thedoc2097> I have grub at the moment
[22:48] <Aeleon> Except for the cheeky, unclever kind.
[22:48] <Flare183> !lilo
[22:48] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[22:48] <SmoothOp> thanks
[22:48] <wiske57_> Safiyyah: yes, I think that is only way
[22:48] <Flare183> thedoc2097: see above
[22:48] <rjackson> Aeleon: with venom like that, good luck getting a response
[22:48] <rjackson> Aeleon: would have been better to just ask a question
[22:48] <twavisdegwet> is any1 using a 2wire wireless adapter succesfully on ubuntu? details please
[22:48] <speedbird> anyone here using pidgin ?
[22:48] <Aeleon> I asked the question 8 times.
[22:48] <Aeleon> You still didn't read it, did you?
[22:48] <Odd-rationale> speedbird: Me
[22:49] <aladdinsane> Why do i have to be a superuser to mount this ntfs disk:UUID /media/Xp        ntfs    user,noauto,rw  0      0while i can mount this one just fine as user:UUID /media/Hdd2        ext3    user,noauto,rw  0      0
[22:49] <aladdinsane> anyone?
[22:49] <KlrSpz> !ask | speedbird
[22:49] <Aeleon> Uh, I'm trying to install pptpd as indicated in this faq i was listed (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD) but when I try to apt-get it, it "couldn't find the package". I'm SSH'ed to my box, what do I do?
[22:49] <ubotu> speedbird: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:49] <Muskrat> nalioth, I have to pay $5 a month just to use windows games
[22:49] <ikonia> Aeleon: I missed it, what is the question
[22:49] <Muskrat> ?
[22:49] <thedoc2097> What´s above? There is standing I should use grub but I need LILO
[22:49] <Aeleon> Just posted it again.
[22:49] <^A^kira> hey there
[22:49] <ikonia> Aeleon: what package can it not find
[22:49] <Flare183> !lilo | thedoc2097
[22:49] <ubotu> thedoc2097: lilo is an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[22:49] <^A^kira> cvslockd uses 90+% of cpu
[22:49] <nalioth> Muskrat: no, you don't.  cedega can be obtained for free
[22:49] <^A^kira> what can i do withthat?
[22:49] <Aeleon> oh shit hold on.
[22:49] <^A^kira> except of kill :)
[22:49] <ikonia> aladdinsane: that language is uncalled for
[22:49] <Flare183> !language | Aeleon
[22:49] <ubotu> Aeleon: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[22:49] <speedbird> I am unable to send / receive files using pidgin :( even tried the latest ver. ... :s
[22:49] <Aeleon> You mean me?
[22:49] <Flare183> yeah
[22:50] <Aeleon> Sorry.
[22:50] <ikonia> Aeleon: yes, I meant you
[22:50] <KlrSpz> speedbird: check your firewall settings
[22:50] <twavisdegwet> great a long message.. no1's gonna scroll up now i gotta reask my question.... question : Does anyone know how to install a 2wire wireless adapter on ubuntu i've tried ndiswrapper the light turns on but then it lags out..
[22:50] <Muskrat> nalioth, IIRC we tried cedega that time
[22:50] <SmoothOp> does anyone have suggestions for ubuntu ready laptops
[22:50] <thedoc2097> flare183 : I don´t like to use grub
[22:50] <ikonia> SmoothOp: dell or a random small companies
[22:50] <manicnerd> What does it mean when negative bars appear on my display (above the window switcher and trash can) and sometimes by my mouse?  i cant screenshot them because they dont appear on the image
[22:50] <Odd-rationale> SmoothOp: system76.com
[22:50] <neverblue> speedbird, try shutting down the app, running it from command line, looking for errors, issues
[22:50] <Flare183> thedoc2097: oh well..
[22:50] <speedbird> how ?
[22:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Muskrat about qemu
[22:50] <SmoothOp> ok
[22:50] <Jack_Sparrow> thedoc2097: Why do you need lilo , or why wont grub work for you..  The cute login page of lilo is cute...
[22:50] <^A^kira> some1?
[22:50] <speedbird> KlrSpz how to check my firewall ?
[22:50] <Odd-rationale> nalioth: You know that ubotu is just a bot..
[22:51] <KlrSpz> speedbird: if you don't know that, just give up now
[22:51] <nickrud> SmoothOp: the gateway mt64xx series have ati and broadcom, but work very well with ubuntu
[22:51] <aladdinsane> ikonia, is this a bot?
[22:51] <thedoc2097> I need lilo to boot the backtrack distro properly
[22:51] <Flare183> Odd-rationale: dude he is a op
[22:51] <ikonia> aladdinsane: no, it was my typo
[22:51] <Odd-rationale> sorry
[22:51] <WindowSmasher> !flash
[22:51] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[22:51] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[22:51] <thedoc2097> Jack Sparrow: So what should I do
[22:51] <Jack_Sparrow> KlrSpz: It is a legitimate question...
[22:52] <nalioth> Odd-rationale: yes, i do.  :)
[22:52] <SmoothOp> nickrud, i have a gateway 742gx, never have gotten video or wifi working
[22:52] <_moro_bana_> Jack_Sparrow: do you work here
[22:52] <Aeleon> Ok, semantics question: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD When it says "File contains only these lines", does that mean it *should* contain only these lines? Or it really does contain just that, and needs to be edited accordingly?
[22:52] <^A^kira> cvslockd uses 90+% of cpu and google doesn't help me, some1 moght know what the problem is?
[22:52] <ikonia> Aeleon: when what says "file contains 3 lines"
[22:52] <^A^kira> *might
[22:53] <Jack_Sparrow> thedoc2097: There should be some info on using lilo..  It installed on this system once when I installed a distro that included it...  So I know it will work.  Just not how to get there
[22:53] <Aeleon> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD This FAQ mentions options files that I imagine I should be aware of i.
[22:53] <Jack_Sparrow> _moro_bana_: Im here alot.. I would not call it a job.. How may I help you
[22:53] <Aeleon> and it says "File contains these lines", and quotes some code.
[22:53] <thedoc2097> Ah, that´s a good idea, i install a distro containing lilo, but which distro
[22:54] <nickrud> SmoothOp: mt64xx series, some very generic hardware on that on
[22:54] <Muskrat> nalioth, I also can't update ubuntu.  the update doesn't work.  lol so many problems...
[22:54] <thedoc2097> Jack Sparrow : Ah, that´s a good idea, i install a distro containing lilo, but which distro
[22:54] <twavisdegwet> any1.. 2wire usb wireless adapter.. and ubuntu?
[22:54] <aladdinsane> Why do i have to be a superuser to mount this ntfs disk:
[22:54] <aladdinsane> UUID /media/Xp        ntfs    user,noauto,rw  0      0
[22:54] <aladdinsane> while i can mount this one just fine as user:
[22:54] <aladdinsane> UUID /media/Hdd2        ext3    user,noauto,rw  0      0pretty please help
[22:54] <ikonia> Aeleon: I'm not actually sure what your asking. Can you be specific
[22:54] <Jack_Sparrow> thedoc2097: Knoppix I think stil uses it
[22:54] <Aeleon> Did you open the link I gave you twice now? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[22:54] <manicnerd> What does it mean when negative bars appear on my display (above the window switcher and trash can) and sometimes by my mouse?  i cant screenshot them because they dont appear on the image
[22:54] <ikonia> Aeleon: I've not opened it yet, no
[22:54] <thedoc2097> jack Sparrow: I have a knoppix live cd, but i think this won´t help
[22:55] <neverblue> Aeleon, ask your direct question please
[22:55] <DWSR2> aladdinsane: because the ntfs drivers require the use of root privs, unless you configure them otherwise. I'm assuming you're using NTFS-3g?
[22:55] <twavisdegwet> mnicnerd: if u can't screenshot them it's probably ur monitor
 if u have ATI card try to reinstall drivers
[22:55] <manicnerd> its a brand new laptop
[22:55] <nickrud> thedoc2097: you can install lilo from the repos.
[22:55] <ikonia> Aeleon: I'm looking at it now, but there are lots of lines and examples, please ask a specific question
[22:55] <thedoc2097> nickrud: repos?
[22:55] <twavisdegwet> manicnerd: ouch well not sure then
[22:55] <Aeleon> Right. In those examples, it says "File Contains Only These Lines".
[22:55] <manicnerd> ^A^kira: any suggestions on how to do it?
[22:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !lilo
[22:55] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[22:56] <manicnerd> it is an ATI card and this didnt happen before i updated to the new drivers
[22:56] <Aeleon> What am I supposed to do with that? Make sure my files contain the same lines? Or is that an indication that there's something I should be editing?
[22:56] <neverblue> Aeleon, question, please
[22:56] <manicnerd> but no one is reporting this problem
[22:56] <nickrud> thedoc2097: sudo apt-get install lilo , the repos are the repository of software
[22:56] <ikonia> Aeleon: so the file /etc/ppp/options contains lock #debug is what your asking about
[22:56] <Aeleon> neverblue, THis is the fourth iteration of this question.
[22:56] <twavisdegwet> !2wire
[22:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 2wire - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:56] <ikonia> Aeleon: thats being specific
[22:56] <nickrud> !repos | thedoc2097
[22:56] <ubotu> thedoc2097: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[22:56] <aladdinsane> DWSR2: dont know what u mean with 3g, but ok i guessed it was a ntfs issue, can i get around it?
[22:56] <BOZG> Hey everyone
 dl and install from ati site
[22:56] <ikonia> Aeleon: your not asking a specifc question, there are MANY exmaples in that page you've posted 4 times
[22:56] <twavisdegwet> !ndiswrapper
[22:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:56] <Aeleon> ikonia: fine. What do I do with that?
[22:56] <neverblue> Aeleon, it will contain those lines
[22:56] <Jack_Sparrow> _moro_bana_: Did you have a question?
[22:56] <Aeleon> neverblue: and?
[22:56] <ikonia> Aeleon: what do you do with what ?
[22:56] <^A^kira> worked for me and some my friends
[22:56] <Aeleon> ikonia: those lines.
[22:56] <DWSR2> aladdinsane: ntfs-3g is a piece of software that allows Linux to read and write to NTFS partitions safely.
[22:56] <BOZG> Does anyone notice that videos played on Ubuntu are much darker than the same video being played on Windows?  Is there any way of resolving this?
[22:56] <dstath> any ideas why i can only connect to the web for 30 secs?
[22:56] <thedoc2097> nickrud : ah in slax it is slapt-get
[22:56] <Aeleon> ikonia: i imagine they were quoted to me for a reason.
[22:56] <DWSR2> It comes installed with Ubuntu >7.04
[22:56] <manicnerd> ^A^kira: thanks
[22:57] <ikonia> Aeleon: nothing - it says "it only contains these lines"
[22:57] <Aeleon> ikonia: i wanted to know what that reason is.
[22:57] <nalioth> Muskrat: did you see your server window?
[22:57] <neverblue> Aeleon, and nothing, it clearly tells you that file will have those lines
[22:57] <ikonia> Aeleon: it's telling you what the file should contain
[22:57] <dstath> bozg: you are right.
[22:57] <DWSR2> !ntfs-3g
[22:57] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[22:57] <nickrud> thedoc2097: yeah, they did that to avoid trademark infringment :)
[22:57] <Aeleon> neverblue: so there's nothing I should be doing to those lines, as indicated by the FAQ, right?
[22:57] <Muskrat> nalioth, what server window?  I did the update thing, and it doesn't work
[22:57] <Aeleon> Ikonia & neverblue: I just wanted to make sure I'm not missing something.
[22:57] <ikonia> Aeleon: no, the howto is telling you thats what they should contain
[22:57] <aladdinsane> DWSR2: do i need that in gutsy? i never did anything and it always worked, exept this manual mount thing
[22:57] <nalioth> Muskrat: your irc clients server window
[22:57] <neverblue> Aeleon, no one has any idea of what your trying to do, thats why we ask you to repeat
[22:57] <WinShade> will freedos run an exe made for windows?
[22:58] <DWSR2> no. it's automatically installed and used in gutsy.
[22:58] <ikonia> WinShade: no, it's dos, not windows
[22:58] <Aeleon> neverblue: someone did, and that's why they pointed me to this faq.
[22:58] <DWSR2> WinShade: I don't know, but I know that Wine will.
[22:58] <Aeleon> ikonia: thank you.
[22:58] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[22:58] <WinShade> :s... ok i guess i'll just have to try wine
[22:58] <ikonia> Aeleon: no problem, just took a while to get there, as a tip try to be a little clearer rather than generic and we'll get there easier
[22:58] <WinShade> thx
[22:58] <DWSR2> aladdinsane: You'll need to install ntfs-config in order to solve it.
[22:58] <bat3man> I'm trying to install the GNU scientific library, but when I run ./configure I get (after a few lines): configure: error: compiler cannot create executables  -  anyone know what I need to do?
[22:58] <EvaLuaTe> configure: error: Cannot find MySQL header files under /usr. any idea how i could install the mysql header files or where they are located ?
[22:58] <_moro_bana_> Jack_Sparrow: just that u are always here,someone was helping me here and u were here all that time and still are,
[22:59] <_moro_bana_> Jack_Sparrow: are u part of the ubuntu team
[22:59] <DWSR2> Run 'sudo apt-get install ntfs-config'. You'll need the universe repository enabled in Synaptic.
[22:59] <dstath> i am able to connect to the internet for a few seconds. any ideas why?
[22:59] <Jack_Sparrow> _moro_bana_: Nickrud and I were helping you.. and he is still here too..
[22:59] <rdw200169_> is there  anyone here who can tell me how to turn off my mouse?
[22:59] <twavisdegwet> unplug it
[22:59] <neverblue> dstath, call your ISP, they would have a much better idea than we would
[23:00] <rdw200169_> duh, guy, this is a touchpad that never registers the synaptics driver correctly.
[23:00] <Jack_Sparrow> _moro_bana_: Not part of any team.. just part of the community.. which is Ubuntu
[23:00] <rdw200169_> i just want it off, never loaded
[23:00] <aladdinsane> DWSR2: ok i'll try it out
[23:00] <dstath> neverblue: I can connect without a problem using windows.
[23:00] <neverblue> rdw200169, there isnt a button (hardware) to press ?
[23:00] <rdw200169_> it's a macbook
[23:00] <neverblue> dstath, good to know
[23:01] <debatem1> anybody know of a server that permits the safe execution of one of a small number of programs, requires authorization, and does not require suid, sgid, or devices inside of its chroot?
[23:01] <Tigerplug> When I have AWN installed... how to I hide the bar at the bottom of my screen?
[23:01] <Jack_Sparrow> _moro_bana_: If you hav a question about Ubuntu I would be happy to try and answer it...  If you have non-ubuntu questions, ask and I will join you in offtopic
[23:01] <Sir_Fred> hi :)
[23:01] <rdw200169_> with my wacom pad and external mouse, the touchpad never gets the synaptics driver for some d* reason
[23:01] <dstath> neverblue: I asked the provided of my modem and they say that they have nothing on linux.
[23:01] <Phusion> Tigerplug: gotta right click on it and go to prefs and select autohide
[23:01] <neverblue> dstath, without any details, no one will be able to just guess and be correct as to why you went offline for a few seconds
[23:01] <rdw200169_> i just want it off so I can type without clicking everything on the screen
[23:01] <Odd-rationale> Tigerplug: Right click -> properites.
[23:02] <BOZG> Can anyone help me with video codecs?
[23:02] <BSG75> anyone know why samba is brutally slow?
[23:02] <dstath> neverblue: I understand that. I have logs.
[23:02] <neverblue> !anyone
[23:02] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[23:02] <Aeleon> Ok, another question: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD In this FAQ, it's telling me to run echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward & ip_dynaddr accordingly, but when I go to run it, -bash tells me "Premission Denied". Suggestoins?
[23:02] <manicnerd> anyone know which driver supports the x1150 by ati?
[23:02] <debatem1> anybody know of a server that permits the safe execution of one of a small number of programs, requires authorization, and does not require suid, sgid, or devices inside of its chroot?
[23:02] <KlrSpz> BSG75: have you tested your hdd speeds with hdparm to see if it's samba that's slow?
[23:02] <debatem1> aeleon: sudo
[23:02] <neverblue> !pastebin | dstath
[23:02] <ubotu> dstath: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[23:02] <Aeleon> even with sudo, debatem1.
[23:02] <KlrSpz> BSG75: there's also an optimized line you can use for the tcp controller.. lemme see if i can fidn it
[23:02] <BSG75> KlrSpz: yes .. ftp.. scp .. is blazing fast ..
[23:02] <neverblue> Aeleon, look at the permissions
[23:02] <KlrSpz> scp is NOT blazing fast
[23:03] <Aeleon> neverblue: how? where?
[23:03] <sanyora> firefox's memory usage seems to build up after a while even when there's only 1 tab open. why is that?
[23:03] <x_or> Can anyone tell me how to change the timezone on my system?  I switched it, and cannot figure out how to switch it back.
[23:03] <debatem1> aeleon: cute. that was my only suggestion
[23:03] <KlrSpz> with 1024 rsa you'll only get about 8mbit at max
[23:03] <Aeleon> debatem1: thanks anyway.
[23:03] <neverblue> Aeleon, its right in your command, your copying/writing to something, look at the permissions
[23:03] <BSG75> KlrSpz: I have tried copying it from linux thinking it's because of usual Vista bloat
[23:03] <dstath> neverblue: dmesg here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51269/
[23:03] <neverblue> sanyora, try restarting it
[23:03] <BSG75> KlrSpz: but it seems OS independant
[23:03] <nickrud> x_or: system->admin->time & date
[23:03] <Aeleon> Huh? Could you elaborate, neverblue?
[23:03] <twavisdegwet> everyone: so what's a wireless adapter that every1 can confirm works with linux?
[23:04] <neverblue> Aeleon, whats the command
[23:04] <th0r> x_or http://www.wikihow.com/Change-the-Timezone-in-Linux
[23:04] <debatem1> aeleon: wait, is that & or &&
[23:04] <sanyora> neverblue: is it the only way to prevent/solve the problem?
[23:04] <KlrSpz> BSG75: well do an hdparm test real quick while i look for this line
[23:04] <Daemonik> I can't apt-get update http://pastebin.ca/847343
[23:04] <KlrSpz> BSG75: something like hdparm -tT /dev/xxx
[23:04] <Aeleon> No, no &, they're two serperate commands and I didn't wnat to fill the screen with them.
[23:04] <sanyora> neverblue:  that's kinda dumb
[23:04] <BOZG> Does anyone else have problems with videos in Ubuntu being extremely dark compared to Windows?
[23:04] <neverblue> sanyora, quicker than a long winded explaination from more than one person in here
[23:04] <twavisdegwet> oh ya for the wireless adapter that works on linux... preferbly one that can be found at best buy
[23:04] <Azzmodan> twavisdegwet, I don't think there's a user name "ever1" on at the moment, so you should wait till he gets on before asking what chipset he'd recoomend
[23:04] <Aeleon> echo > 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[23:05] <twavisdegwet> ^there that one isn't pointed at anyone lol
[23:05] <Aeleon> and echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_dynaddr
[23:05] <Aeleon> echo 1 *
[23:05] <debatem1> aeleon: which does it fail on? it should not fail on either, but that could help
[23:05] <Aeleon> it "Permission Denied"s me on both, debatem1.
[23:05] <neverblue> Aeleon, then look at the permissions of: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward and /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_dynaddr
[23:06] <Aeleon> and how do I do that, neverblue?
[23:06] <tiny_> Hi! Why do I need to create separate partition for installer when installing from existing linux partition?
[23:06] <neverblue> !permissions
[23:06] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[23:06] <tiny_> I'm refering to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[23:06] <BSG75> my usb2 hd is 32MB/sec my internals are 31.30
[23:06] <debatem1> aeleon: hmm check for their existence
[23:06] <neverblue> Aeleon, now its your turn to do some wor
[23:06] <twavisdegwet> is there a list of confirmed working wifi adapters for linux?
[23:06] <Aeleon> neverblue, you don't need to be rude.
[23:06] <KlrSpz> tiny_: because it's mounted, you can't write to many of the locked files such as your user namespace (formerly devfs) or proc
[23:06] <neverblue> no idea dstath
[23:06] <dstath> neverblue: ifconfig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51269/
[23:06] <debatem1> anybody know of a server that permits the safe execution of one of a small number of programs, requires authorization, and does not require suid, sgid, or devices inside of its chroot?
[23:07] <KlrSpz> BSG75: yeah that's not that fast to begin with
[23:07] <neverblue> Aeleon, not having the knowledge to check permissions on a file/folder is a basic skill required in linux, i suggest you give the URL a good read, sorry if that appeared to be rude
[23:07] <debatem1> klrspz: you should be able to enable forwarding...
[23:08] <KlrSpz> BSG75: and that's most likely buffered, not sustained
[23:08] <mynyml> is there an application i can use to make custom keyboard shortcuts less of a pain under gnome?
[23:08] <tiny_> KlrSpz: so what if I can't create another partition?
[23:08] <KlrSpz> debatem1: huh?
[23:08] <reportingsjr> Does anyone know how to set up an ftp account on an ubuntu server? I have the ftp program installed but can't figure it out.
[23:08] <Sir_Fred> bye :)
[23:08] <BSG75> but why is samba shares so slow
[23:08] <Aeleon> neverblue: I installed ubuntu yesterday and haven't worked on a commandline in 5 years +. Apology accepted.
[23:08] <neverblue> reportingsjr, running a server or a client ?
[23:08] <KlrSpz> tiny_: then you can create a file and mount it as a drive with the loop option to mount i believe
[23:08] <debatem1> klrspz: he should be able to enable forwarding. thats what that line is- echoing one into the kernel setting for ip forwarding
[23:08] <neverblue> Aeleon, welcome back :)
[23:08] <SeicherlBoB> hi there! is there a way to swap between java JREs? I got 5 and 6 installed and need to downgrade now to 5 - but i dont want to uninstall version 6. any suggestions?
[23:08] <KlrSpz> debatem1: i think you have the convo confused, i'm not talking about that one
[23:08] <reportingsjr> neverblue: I'm using my computer (the one I'm on now) as a server. (just to learn)
[23:09] <BSG75> KlrSpz: I am about to check with nfs
[23:09] <debatem1> klrspz: ah srry
[23:09] <reportingsjr> So running a server.
[23:09] <ikonia> SeicherlBoB: /etc/alternatives/java
[23:09] <BSG75> brb
[23:09] <tiglionabbit> I have two monitors connected, but only one of them is showing graphics, and only one shows up in the Screen and Graphics Preferences thingy.  How can I enable my other screen?
[23:09] <neverblue> reportingsjr, which FTP server are you considering ?
[23:09] <Aeleon> neverblue: not quite a welcome return, but a return nonetheless.
[23:09] <debatem1> anybody know of a server that permits the safe execution of one of a small number of programs, requires authorization, and does not require suid, sgid, or devices inside of its chroot?
[23:09]  * Pelo waves hello to the group
[23:09] <KlrSpz> BSG75: again, there's an optimization line.. i'm at work and it's all blocked here... i can't find jack squat... i have a config at home optimized that did make a huge diff.. but the ubuntu default is generally pretty good
[23:09] <nickrud> SeicherlBoB: sudo update-alternatives --config jave
[23:09] <KlrSpz> debatem1: what's the issue though? ip masquerading?
[23:09] <SeicherlBoB> ikonia: yes, but there are like 20 links i would need to change manually... do you know a script or tool?
[23:09] <siriusnova> can someone do me a favor and post the url to the broadcom fw-cutter firmware that ubuntu downloads?
[23:09] <SeicherlBoB> nickrud: thanks, i'll check that
[23:09] <ikonia> selinuxium: update-alternative is the command I think
[23:09] <reportingsjr> neverblue: Well, it looks like I have "The FTP client" installed already. (via package manager)
[23:10] <Bakefy> could someone please help me determin if I installed ubuntu server correctly?
[23:10] <ikonia> Bakefy: what do you want to know ?
[23:10] <neverblue> Bakefy, please explain
[23:10] <nickrud> SeicherlBoB: be sure to use java  not jave , typo
[23:10] <debatem1> klrspz: he's getting permission denied on enabling ip forwarding. last time i checked the only things that should cause that to fail are a kernel compiled without it or removing CAP_NET_ADMIN
[23:10] <selinuxium> ikonia: ? I don't think that was aimed at me  :)
[23:10] <Pelo> Bakefy,  do you boot into the command line ? yes : it is installed properly
[23:10] <debatem1> klrspz: i may be wrong tho
[23:10] <SeicherlBoB> nickrud: hehe, i was sure about that
[23:10] <ikonia> selinuxium: probably not, auto-complete is borking for me
[23:10] <Xerostyle> Is there someone in here who loves fixing sound cards? Because I've got one hell of a problem
[23:11] <dstath> any guess why my connection to the internet stops after a few secodns?
[23:11] <KlrSpz> debatem1: done as sudo?
[23:11] <selinuxium> ikonia: np :)
[23:11] <debatem1> klrspz: yep
[23:11] <SeicherlBoB> nickrud: perfectly fine! thanks a lot!
[23:11] <reportingsjr> neverblue: Any clue?
[23:11] <Pelo> Xerostyle, stating the problem is the next step
[23:11] <Bakefy> ikonia, I have good feeling its not correct... its got some shell running "busybox" (include Pelo and neverblue)
[23:11] <neverblue> reportingsjr, i cannot help you, until you help me, please reply to any questions I have
[23:11] <KlrSpz> debatem1: hmmm.. who is this doing this? and did they compile their own kernel? (and why?)
[23:11] <ikonia> Bakefy: so you don't boot ubuntu - you just get busybox
[23:11] <Bakefy> ikonia, I am at command line though. (include Pelo and neverblue)
[23:11] <Xerostyle> Whoops
[23:11] <reportingsjr> neverblue: I did..?
[23:11] <debatem1> klrspz: ask aeleon
[23:12] <Flare183> ?
[23:12] <neverblue> reportingsjr, which FTP server are you considering ?
[23:12] <Aeleon> what?
[23:12] <Bakefy> ikonia, that is correct.
[23:12] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: did you compile your own kernel, and if so.. what is your reasoning?
[23:12] <ikonia> Bakefy: then t's not installed
[23:12] <Aeleon> I uh..
[23:12] <reportingsjr> neverblue: What do you mean by that? Which daemon?
[23:12] <Xerostyle> My computer says I have a card installed, I can change the volume, and It sees everything about the card, but no sound plays.
[23:12] <Aeleon> KlrSpz, if I did, I didn' know about it.
[23:12] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: debatem1: ubuntu's default kernel has all that enabled
[23:12] <Bakefy> hmm, wonder where it failed
[23:12] <KlrSpz> lol, ok
[23:12] <nd1> can anyone tell me what script ubuntu uses for hotplugging?
[23:12] <KlrSpz> so i'll take that as a no
[23:12] <Bakefy> it went through the whole thing...
[23:12] <ikonia> nd1: udevd
[23:12] <Pelo> !sound > Xerostyle check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[23:12] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: first catch me up to what you're trying to do?
[23:12] <debatem1> klrspz: i know. im just saying i see no reason why enabling ip forwarding should fail under sudo
[23:13] <Xerostyle> The kicker is that if I boot into Windows, the sound works, so I know the speakers aren't broken
[23:13] <Xerostyle> !sound
[23:13] <Xerostyle> ?
[23:13] <neverblue> reportingsjr, an FTP client connects to a server, which is offering files, a server is run a system which offers files. From my questions, it seems your asking how to install an FTP server, so yes, I am asking which daemon you are considering
[23:13] <debatem1> klrspz: a custom kernel and lcap are the only things in my limited experience that might cause that
[23:13] <Pelo> Xerostyle, check in your private msg windows ,  ubotu just sent you a link to a trouble shoot for sound problems
[23:13] <Aeleon> KlrSpz: I'm trying to set up a vpn server on the ubuntu box that I can use for bt & mmos off a vista laptop in the UK.
[23:13] <Xerostyle> how do I check private message?
[23:13] <reportingsjr> neverblue: Ok, I already answered that one. I have FTP installed. That's the name of it.
[23:13] <KlrSpz> debatem1: agreed.. but he's using the generic ubuntu kernel it seems
[23:13] <_moro_bana_> Jack_Sparrow: offtopic can i open a dialogue box
[23:13] <Pelo> Xerostyle, what client are you uisng ?
[23:13] <Xerostyle> pidgen
[23:13] <debatem1> xerostyle: pms are disabled on freenode right now
[23:14] <Aeleon> KlrSpz: I was directed to read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD and I'm having trouble with every step, hah.
[23:14] <Pelo> Xerostyle, hmmm, hold on
[23:14] <Aeleon> KlrSpz: *she :P
[23:14] <Pelo> !sound | Xerostyle
[23:14] <neverblue> reportingsjr, what command did you use to install this 'ftp' ?
[23:14] <ikonia> debatem1: I've got pm's today
[23:14] <reportingsjr> neverblue: I'm not asking how to install one, but how to set up a user on it.
[23:14] <Pelo> ubotu, dead or someting ?
[23:14] <Jack_Sparrow> _moro_bana_: Sure
[23:14] <Xerostyle> :-/
[23:14] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: are these pc's all on the same lan?
[23:14] <neverblue> reportingsjr, setup a user on what ?
[23:14] <reportingsjr> neverblue: I think it was already installed, or maybe I ran apt-get a while back. I don't remember installing it though :D
[23:14] <Pelo> Xerostyle, give it a minute for the bot to catchup, it might be lagging a bit
[23:14] <debatem1> ikonia: really? i just got a blocked message a few hours ago... might just be me?
[23:14] <_moro_bana_> Jack_Sparrow: i did
[23:14] <reportingsjr> neverblue: The ftp server..
[23:14] <Xerostyle> kk
[23:14] <neverblue> reportingsjr, ftp is not an ftp server
[23:15] <Aeleon> KlrSpz: my ubuntu box is connected to my router at home, my intended client is going to be here in the UK.
[23:15] <Bakefy> ikonia, should I attempt to reinstall her?
[23:15] <neverblue> reportingsjr, your confused
[23:15] <Jack_Sparrow> _moro_bana_: /j #Voyager
[23:15] <ikonia> Bakefy: I certainly would
[23:15] <Pelo> Xerostyle, meanwhile, open a terminal and type alsamixer   see that everyting is turned up and not muted
[23:15] <Aeleon> KlrSpz: I'm actually on my vista box, and I'm SSH'ed to my ubuntu box.
[23:15] <reportingsjr> neverblue: Isn't it? I thought it was... What would you recommend then?
[23:15] <reportingsjr> neverblue: I'm running apache 2 for the server.
[23:15] <neverblue> reportingsjr, what are you trying to do ?
[23:15] <silverCASE> i have ubuntu server installed on a system with multiple network cards, but it only sees one of the cards... how can i get the system to see the other card?
[23:15] <Bakefy> ikonia, this is my 2nd failed attempt.... and I have had no warnings till the boot... it installs with flying colors.
[23:15] <ikonia> reportingsjr: thats a webserver, not an ftp server
[23:15] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:15] <ubotu> Xerostyle: please see above
[23:15] <reportingsjr> Wait, I just realized it was a client *smacks head*
[23:15] <neverblue> ikonia ;)
[23:16] <reportingsjr> ikonia: Because, nevermind.
[23:16] <nd1> ikonia, I need to be able to tweak the user which udevd mounts usb-drives.  Do you know the best way to go about that?
[23:16] <ikonia> reportingsjr: because what ?
[23:16] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: sorry, i'm having a hard time understanding the network config... are the 2 pc's to be vpn'd remotely separated over a distance?
[23:16] <Xerostyle> they're all up
[23:16] <debatem1> reportingsjr: take my advice with a grain of salt, but vsftp is pretty nice
[23:16] <twavisdegwet> ! wifi
[23:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:16] <ikonia> nd1: udev must be run as root
[23:16] <reportingsjr> I thought apache would have to be dealing with the ftp. Apparently not.
[23:16] <neverblue> reportingsjr, do you want to offer files, grab files, what are you wanting FTP for ?
[23:16] <reportingsjr> debatem1: Ok, thanks!
[23:16] <Pelo> Xerostyle, read up a bit , ubotu finaly kicked in
[23:16] <ikonia> reportingsjr: no, it's a webserver, nothing more
[23:16] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: (tring to find out if vpn is necessary)
[23:16] <reportingsjr> neverblue: You know what, I need to look up on this a bit more. Sorry about that!
[23:16] <neverblue> reportingsjr, you are attempting to run apache, correct ?
[23:17] <Aeleon> KlrSpz: The computers are very seperate. Mad ports are blocked at my uni's ISP here in the UK, and there are things I want to do that I can't.
[23:17] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: otherwise, if it is remote, then yes vpn is needed; as well as can you report back what this gives you::::  sudo echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[23:17] <neverblue> reportingsjr, and you want to access your files, to add/change/remove from your webserver
[23:17] <_moro_bana_> Jack_Sparrow: aha
[23:17] <debatem1> aeleon: ssh tunneling, if an option, is usually easier than a pptp solution
[23:17] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: ok i see
[23:17] <neverblue> reportingsjr, you can do such tasks via ssh
[23:17] <neverblue> !ssh
[23:17] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[23:17] <yago> hi all!
[23:18] <Flare183> !hi | yago
[23:18] <kavok2> Ubuntu was updating like 150 packages and it seems frozen on configuring cupsys
[23:18] <Aeleon> KlrSpz + debatem1 : Well I can successfully SSH to my ubuntu box, but I don't quite know how to tunnel with it. I mean, I do,
[23:18] <Pelo> later
[23:18] <Xerostyle> I've actually read up on those.
[23:18] <Bakefy> ikonia, any tips?  so far I am manually partitioning a 500 GB drive because my BIOS is too old to see it.
[23:18] <Aeleon> but it's not quite what I'd imagined. Sorry, premature enter pressing.
[23:18] <kavok2> Thge details shows * Starting common unix printring sytsem: cupsd
[23:18] <Xerostyle> Unfortunately, I don't understand why it doesn't work
[23:18] <ubotu> yago: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[23:18] <kavok2> What do I do?
[23:18] <Xerostyle> It sees the cards
[23:18] <Bakefy> ikonia, i got the grub error 18 the first install
[23:18] <Xerostyle> It's not muted
[23:18] <debatem1> aeleon: google ssh. there are a TON of GREAT references on ssh out there
[23:18] <neverblue> reportingsjr, we are just here to 'try' and help :)
[23:18] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: yeah you don't want tunnelling, you want an actual network formed between remote pc's to play games together and stuff right?
[23:18] <Pelo> Xerostyle, in menu > system > prefs > sound,  second tab I think make sure that the proper audio card is selected for each sound events type thingy
[23:18] <ikonia> Bakefy: I suggest you make a small 200 meg /boot partition
[23:18] <chocosol> hey there, I have been trying to resolve this cups printing problem but I am at a block. localhost:631 shows that the printer is configured and active and every thing appears good. it appears that the printer accepts the print job and then it thinks it is printed but nothing comes out the printer and cups reports as successfully printed. This is a USB connected printer but it initially worked fine and then last week it just stoppe
[23:19] <debatem1> klrspz: unfortunately, ssh stil requires /dev/null and /dev/urandom, and suid, so i can't use if for my current problem- any suggestions?
[23:19] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: either way, can you do the sudo line i pasted, and if that fails give me the error, as well as output for doing an LS on the file as well
[23:19] <nd1> ikonia, do you know how udevd decides what user to mount usb-drives as?
[23:19] <Aeleon> KlrSpz: well, it'd just be me. I want to use my home network since it's set up to do everything I want, instead of my uni connection, which has ever port blocked.
[23:19] <Pelo> later folks
[23:19] <kavok2> What do I do if an update freezes?
[23:19] <Aeleon> KlrSpz: I did it, and bash says "Permission Denied".
[23:19] <ikonia> nd1: its root - it has to be root, it's root only
[23:19] <twavisdegwet> can some1 tell me if this will work with linux (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8454638&st=network+adapter&lp=3&type=product&cp=1&id=1184369369644)
[23:20] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: give me an ls reading on it
[23:20] <Bakefy> ikonia, so would that be a primary partition?
[23:20] <ikonia> Bakefy: doesn't matter
[23:20] <Aeleon> KlrSpz: .. ls? :| (sorry for being ignorant.)
[23:20] <chocosol> I cant find any tips at cups.org or google or anywhere else. any tips to address this usb printer would be much appreciated
[23:20] <ikonia> Bakefy: but I would make it one
[23:21] <debatem1> twavisdegwet: A) probably not and B) man your name is hard to spell. funny, though
[23:21] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: list? LS
[23:21] <KlrSpz> lowercased
[23:21] <KlrSpz> twavisdegwet: http://tinyurl.com/2b2q8z
[23:21] <kavok2> Anyone?
[23:21] <kavok2> What do I do if an update freezes?
[23:21] <KlrSpz> kavok2: ctrl+c if in cli, kill the app otherwise and redo the update process
[23:21] <KlrSpz> if the server is down, it should time out... if it FROZE, then it might be a fluke
[23:22] <nd1> ikonia, When i'm logged in as nd1, and i insert a usb stick, it is mounted with permissions so nd1 can read it.  How does it decide that nd1 can use it over other logged in users?
[23:22] <KlrSpz> i'm about to take off for the night... work is about over
[23:22] <Xerostyle> It says that everything should work, just nothing is working
[23:22] <kavok2> KlSpz: its frozen on Starting common unix printing system: cupsd
[23:22] <dstath> i am connecting to the internet using by a USB model. everything works weill for a few seconds but then connection stops. any help?
[23:22] <Aeleon> KlrSpz: a list on which directory? .. is ip_forward a directory or a file? or do you want an ls on ipv4?
[23:22] <Aeleon> (I'm really embarrassed right now.)
[23:22] <kavok2> KlrSpz: its frozen on Starting common unix printing system: cupsd
[23:22] <ikonia> nd1: the permissons are probably 775 which means anyone can read it
[23:22] <Bakefy> ikonia so I need the primary "/" and the "/boot" and the extended "/something"
[23:22] <ikonia> nd1: also your logged into the desktop and hal/dbus are aware of your user
[23:22] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: ls works on all files.. do this: ls /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[23:22] <ikonia> Bakefy: you don't "need" anyhting
[23:22] <KlrSpz> kavok2: that's not an update, that's starting a service
[23:22] <dn4> how do I kill a terminal?
[23:22] <Aeleon> oh!
[23:23] <ikonia> Bakefy: make 3 partitions 1 /boot 2 / 3 swap
[23:23] <Tigerplug> hey room
[23:23] <neverblue> hey Tigerplug
[23:23] <kavok2> KlrSpz: Its during "Configuring cupsys"
[23:23] <KlrSpz> kavok2: if that's PART of an update... theeeenn.... all i can say is kill the update, and restart cupsd yourself
[23:23] <debatem1> aeleon: don't take this as an insult, but you probably shouldnt mess with /proc if you don't know what you're doing
[23:23] <Bakefy> ikonia, thanks man!  thats what im gonna do, I really apprecaite you help and understanding.
[23:23] <KlrSpz> kavok2: something in your config is probably holding it up
[23:23] <kavok2> KlrSpz: I dont know how to kill the update ctrl+c does nothing
[23:23] <ikonia> Bakefy: it's fine
[23:23] <Aeleon> debatem1: i agree, but I figure there's no better way to figure it out than to jump in, yeah?
[23:23] <Tigerplug> how do I configure ubuntu to use emerald-theme-manager?
[23:24] <KlrSpz> kavok2: use ps to find the pid, and use kill <pid> to destroy the application
[23:24] <Aeleon> KlrSpz: it just repeats the directory back to me.
[23:24] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: do an ls -la /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward and paste the output, i wanna see perms
[23:24] <debatem1> aeleon: this particular feature is pretty safe, but dont mess with any others unless told to by someone who does understand it. you can REALLY screw up your system that way
[23:25] <Pirate_Hunter> is there some kind of disk defrag option in ubuntu?
[23:25] <Aeleon> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2008-01-08 17:59 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[23:25] <Tigerplug> any help with emerald-theme-manager?
[23:25] <neverblue> root can write to ir Aeleon
[23:25] <Aeleon> jeez, it's raining like hell here in London.
[23:25] <neverblue> it*
[23:25] <Aeleon> neverblue: but only root?
[23:25] <enkidu_ak> Good evening
[23:25] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: ok that looks good.. i wonder if sudo is jacked...
[23:25] <debatem1> aeleon: thus, sudo
[23:25] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: yes only root.. which is why you use sudo
[23:25] <neverblue> Aeleon, read that URL I posted for you, please
[23:25] <Aeleon> debatem1: but sudo doesn't do it either.
[23:25] <KlrSpz> but i've seen where sudo will not work with echo very well
[23:25] <Aeleon> neverblue: I did.
[23:26] <kavok2> KlrSpz: I can't open a terminal
[23:26] <nd1> ikonia, ahh, so you're saying it determines it based on what hal/dbus know?  You're right, i'm signed in, but i have multiple users signed into a graphical environment on this pc.  Right now it mounts it with permissions for only the one user though. ie: (rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1001,utf8,umask=077,usefree)
[23:26] <debatem1> klrspz: really? do you know why?
[23:26] <KlrSpz> try this.. do "sudo -i" then run that echo.. keep in mind this is actually logging you in as root and is not supported
[23:26] <KlrSpz> !root | Aeleon
[23:26] <ubotu> Aeleon: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[23:26] <KlrSpz> !supportroot
[23:26] <ubotu> We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[23:26] <KlrSpz> so i don't support it, but it will most likely get you around your problem
[23:26] <ikonia> nd1: your on the console
[23:26] <enkidu_ak> I am attempting to install mplayer from source after compiling it as a .deb package using fakeroot. However, when I attempt to install i with dpkg -i, I receive a message saying "upgrade refused". Why would I receive this message?
[23:26] <Aeleon> haha.
[23:26] <k31th> any graphic designers around?
[23:27] <kavok2> How do I close the update manager if a terminal won';t come up
[23:27] <KlrSpz> k31th: sure, waht do you need?
[23:27] <neverblue> enkidu_ak, ask in #mplayer ?
[23:27] <KlrSpz> kavok2: press ALT+F2
[23:27]  * bluefox83 wonders why in the world someone would intentionally compile mplayer when they could install it from a regular .deb
[23:27] <soundray> kavok2: do you get a Run dialog with Alt-F2?
[23:27] <KlrSpz> kavok2: otherwise if THAT won't come up, seem slike your OS is frozen, try to restart X with CTRL+ALT+BKSPC
[23:27] <kavok2> soundray: no
[23:27] <debatem1> bluefox83: for optimizations etc
[23:27] <kavok2> KlrSpz: My OS isn't frozen
[23:27] <enkidu_ak> neverblue: I can ask in mplayer, yes, but I think this is relating more to dpkg conflicts than to the mplayer binary. After all, it compiled successfully.
[23:28] <FlintPearce> Hello to all
[23:28] <k31th> KlrSpz: a logo, willing to pay.
[23:28] <KlrSpz> kavok2: sorry, mean to say WM
[23:28] <kavok2> KlrSpz: like I can bring up the power management applet
[23:28] <soundray> kavok2: I'd follow KlrSpz's suggestion then and try a Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[23:28] <KlrSpz> k31th: ah i don't do much sidework like that.. but what are we talkin?
[23:28] <kavok2> KlrSpz: and the text editor
[23:28] <Aeleon> KlrSpz: what's gksudo?
[23:28] <enkidu_ak> bluefox83: Because I wanted amr-nb support
[23:28] <kavok2> soundray & klrspz: ctrl alt bckspace does nothing :(
[23:29] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: a gnome and kde wrapper to sudo for launching apps via a shortcut to prompt them
[23:29] <Tigerplug> no help?
[23:29] <bluefox83> whats amr-nb?
[23:29] <debatem1> anybody know of a server that permits the safe execution of one of a small number of programs, requires authorization, and does not require suid, sgid, or devices inside of its chroot?
[23:29] <Aeleon> Jeez, you're handling everybody tonight, KlrSpz. I can wait 'til you're free-er, if that's alright.
[23:29] <kavok2> Should I just restart the machine?
[23:29] <nd1> hrrmm
[23:29] <ikonia> debatem1: xinetd ?
[23:29] <enkidu_ak> bluefox83: It's an audio codec that is used by many devices, cellphones in particular.
[23:29] <Aeleon> ok, so I'm afraid of sudo -i now.
[23:29] <KlrSpz> kavok2: ok... odd... try ALT+CTRL+F1 to drop to a TTY, log in as your user, and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[23:29] <FlintPearce> Could anyone kidnly help me with a little problem? My friend downloaded 7.10, iso'd it on a CD. When he boots it on his computer everything is alright except when it starts He is queried for a Username and password. I told him to enter ubuntu as login and "  " as password. He momentarily sees the desktop and then the computer reboots to the log in screen
[23:29] <soundray> kavok2: I suspect your keyboard is frozen then. Add the Force-Quit applet to the panel and use that to terminate the update manager
[23:30] <bluefox83> enkidu_ak, ah..neat
[23:30] <ikonia> FlintPearce the livecd does not ask for a username and password
[23:30] <debatem1> ikonia: i admit my ignorance of the superserver, but can even run it in a nosuid environment?
[23:30] <ikonia> debatem1: sure
[23:30] <kavok2> soundray: that might be it, my  caps lock key won't light up anything
[23:30] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: it's not bad.. just that you'll BE root, so be careful with deleting files, and just know that starting applications such as pidgin/irssi and anything that communicates is taboo as it can lead to vulnerabilities
[23:30] <ikonia> debatem1: xinetd is run as root, however the program it launches can run as anyone
[23:30] <kavok2> soundray: how do I do that
[23:30] <Aeleon> KlrSpz, so if I sudo -i, do I enable myself as root until I disable it again?
[23:30] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: i really have to take off.. i apologize
[23:30] <enkidu_ak> bluefox83: If I could get away with the mplayer from the ubuntu or medibuntu source, I would gladly do so. amr-nb isn't supported by either build, though.
[23:31] <FlintPearce> Hmm strange. He deffinately gets ask for a username and pass
[23:31] <Aeleon> Aww, no problem, KlrSpz. Thanks for everything.
[23:31] <ikonia> FlintPearce: then he's not using an ubuntu cd
[23:31] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: yeah.. once logged in, you can use "exit" to go back to your user
[23:31] <thann0y> kavok2: try   ALT+PRINTSCR+R  then CTRL+ALT+F1
[23:31] <soundray> kavok2: right-click the panel, select Add to Panel, find the ForceQuit applet in the list and add it
[23:31] <FlintPearce> Ok I shall try to help him again, thanks Ikonia :D
[23:31] <debatem1> ikonia: thats not really an option, unfortunately. i have student penetration testers- aka the end users from hell- using this system
[23:31] <bluefox83> enkidu_ak, and you had to recompile it from source to add that support? that sucks :(
[23:31] <KlrSpz> Aeleon: i'll try to log on when i get home, but no promises
[23:31] <BlackCow> I am trying to remove a folder and everytime it throws back, "Cannot remove 'filename': is a directory"
[23:32] <soundray> kavok2: or listen to thann0y
[23:32] <dn4ia> my hdd clicks and will not be recognized
[23:32] <ikonia> debatem1: why is that an issue ?
[23:32] <enkidu_ak> bluefox83: It does :(
[23:32] <KlrSpz> (one last one) BlackCow: rm -rf /path/to/folder
[23:32] <dn4ia> what does this mean is it toaste?
[23:32] <Aeleon> KlrSpz: Safe trip. :]
[23:32] <KlrSpz> OUT
[23:32] <bluefox83> enkidu_ak, vlc wouldn't work with it?
[23:32] <kavok2> soundray: that didnt work either lol
[23:32] <kavok2> soundray: the force quit did
[23:32] <BlackCow> thank you <KlrSpz> :-)
[23:32] <astro76> Aeleon: here is a workaround for redirection as root... sudo bash-c "echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[23:32] <kavok2> soundray: but not the printscreen thing
[23:32] <astro76> Aeleon: here is a workaround for redirection as root..errr... sudo bash -c "echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[23:33] <debatem1> ikonia: 'cause i have to lock it down or the little snots tear it up for me, and they have limited admin rights
[23:33] <ikonia> debatem1: they won't be able to do anything with it then ?
[23:33] <soundray> kavok2: you may have to hold Ctrl and Alt and PrtScrn (SysRq), then hit R
[23:33] <ikonia> debatem1: they can't mofidfy xinetd as thats root - and you can tell it to launch the programs you want as any user you want
[23:33] <Aeleon> what's that gonna do, astro76? Is that going to avoid putting me in root?
[23:33] <ikonia> debatem1: you can even chroot them
[23:33] <astro76> Aeleon: one more time, need ' instead of " because you are using " already... sudo bash -c 'echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward'
[23:34] <astro76> Aeleon: yes
[23:34] <Intelligitimate> I am having a problem with Ubuntu randomly assigning names to my various connection devices. How do I make such a device always be recognized as either "eth1" or 'eth2"?
[23:34] <astro76> Aeleon: jsut for the command like sudo
[23:34] <kavok2> soundray: it looks like im going to have to forcefully restart the computer
[23:34] <soundray> kavok2: try a "soft" shutdown using the Quit icon first
[23:34] <enkidu_ak> bluefox83: I don't know, I've never used vlc. In my search for amr-nb support, mplayer was the only media player that even hinted at it. I had to go and grab the codecs from a third party and then recompile mplayer to support that codec. It was a bit annoying, but if I can get it working, I'll live with it.
[23:34] <kavok2> soundray: the quit icon wont activate
[23:34] <eHome> sometimes an update will destroy my ubuntu ?
[23:34] <kavok2> ill slog through it for awhile
[23:34] <debatem1> ikonia: it needs to run inside of a very secure chroot so that I can set it up to fail in predictable ways. since the host needs to stay up and running, i would really prefer that it not involve an suid action or straight up root
[23:35] <Aeleon> astro76: but I won't have to worry about deleting stuff by accident and messing my whole pc up, right? :P
[23:35] <confrey> hi everybody
[23:35] <eHome> my task manager looks like a line in my task bar, after i upgrade something today
[23:35] <ikonia> debatem1: there is no setuid action and xinetd is run ass root, so it's totally safe
[23:35] <astro76> Aeleon: if you trust me I guess ;)
[23:35] <soundray> kavok2: okay, if you have to cut the power, there's always a small risk of data loss (very small actually, thanks to ext3), but if you have exhausted all other options, go ahead.
[23:35] <Aeleon> astro76: oh, that makes me nervous!
[23:36] <ikonia> debatem1: I can assure you it's a secure method, a lot of the banks of england use it....it's secure
[23:36] <Aeleon> oh my gooses, it did it!
[23:36] <Doonz> Hi there i need help applying a patch for my esata controller so that it supports the port multiplier function
[23:36] <confrey> I need a help : I enabled restricted drivers to obtain 3d accel on my laptop, I have a ATI Xpress 200, but now when I close the gnome-session I can't use gdm again, and I must reboot. waht can I do?
[23:37] <Aeleon> Thank you, astro76!
[23:37] <astro76> you're welcome ;)
[23:37] <]RandoM[> i can't seem to ssh into my computer which sits behind a router although i have the port forwarded.. i can only ssh from my laptop if i connect via 192.168.0.x or from the same computer using localhost.. but no luck otherwise
[23:38] <debatem1> ikonia: eh, im being paranoid, I know- but i would be much more comfortable if it did not run as root
[23:38] <zcode> Random: Can you ping the machine?
[23:38] <eHome> my system monitor icon in task bar displayed as a line ? what's gone wrong ?
[23:38] <eHome> 7.04
[23:38] <zcode> Ramdom: Check /var/log/message on your remote host
[23:39] <BlackCow> i feel like a totally noob here but, why is it that I cannot copy and paste folders and files through the GUI?
[23:39] <ikonia> debatem1: then you need to write daemons to run as non-privileged users
[23:39] <BlackCow> i am using kubuntu, so i should probably take it to the kubuntu channel
[23:40] <astro76> ]RandoM[: yes that's normal, you can only use the external IP from outside
[23:40] <astro76> ]RandoM[: unless your router support something sometimes called "nat reflection"
[23:40] <astro76> ]RandoM[: otherwise the router just sends the request out to your gateway, never to return
[23:40] <soundray> BlackCow: you're probably trying to write to system folders. You're only supposed to write data to your $HOME folder, and nowhere else
[23:40] <Onyx> BlackCow: How are you trying to copy and paste?
[23:40] <Phusion> ]RandoM[: sounds like the port was incorrectly forwarded
[23:40] <Phusion> ]RandoM[: who makes your router?
[23:40] <Aeleon> and which port did you use, ]RandoM[? Last night I tried to have ssh listen on 80, and that failed miserably. Have you tried other ports?
[23:40] <Onyx> BlackCow: And... what happens when you try?
[23:40] <debatem1> ikonia: and I'm hoping to avoid that too. if i have to, ill just deal with ssh being pretty bad for chrooting, or set up a cgi script to auth, but i would rather do either of those things than trust myself to write code as secure as I would need it to be in that case
[23:40] <Aeleon> jesus christ mega flood!
[23:40] <BlackCow> through the GUI, right click on a folder in the main directory, go over to a users directory and paste is grayed out
[23:41] <tomtt> I want to find out what hardware is best to buy knowing I will be running Ubuntu on it. I especially want to reward manufacturers that actively support open source. Any pointers?
[23:41] <BlackCow> I cant paste it anywhere
[23:41] <BSG75> okay I have tested it .. there is something seriously wrong with Samba .. how and where do I report this??
[23:41] <BlackCow> the delete and paste option are always grayed out
[23:41] <Onyx> BlackCow: Do you have permissions to the folders and directories?  Both of them?
[23:41] <BlackCow> i am logged in as the main user so yeah
[23:41] <zcode> BlackCow: Try clicking the scrollbutton on your mouse to paste
[23:41] <Onyx> BlackCow: By main directory, do you mean / (root)?
[23:41] <BlackCow> chmod?
[23:41] <slipttees> hey
[23:41] <zcode> BlackCow: If you don't have scrollbutton, try clicking both left+right buttons at once
[23:41] <slipttees> i find bit bug in gusty
[23:42] <slipttees> :S
[23:42] <Belboz99> Hey all, can someone tell me what the status is on ia32-libs?  I can't seem to find it in the repositories.
[23:42] <slipttees> gutsy
[23:42] <soundray> !bugs | BSG75
[23:42] <ubotu> BSG75: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[23:42] <BSG75> thanks
[23:42] <FlintPearce> ikonia: My friend is using Deepburner, writing an ISO to a CD. Downloaded it from the Ubuntu site (filename: ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso). I have told him to recreate the ISO maybe something went wrong whilest the writing.
[23:42] <Onyx> BlackCow: try to open the terminal and "sudo cp /path/to/file /path/to/destination"
[23:42] <slipttees> soundray: hey, my user work perfecly..but a create new user in gutsy and metacity no work
[23:43] <slipttees> i test in many user and no work metacity!
[23:43] <soundray> slipttees: how are you trying to create a new user?
[23:43] <slipttees> soundray: yes
[23:44] <soundray> slipttees: please read my question carefully, then answer
[23:44] <slipttees> metacity no work in all users..only first user work metacity
[23:44] <LoneWolf> Hi. I am trying to get Ubuntu 7.10 running dual screen with my LCD TV. I am running an nvidia 7900 GS card and when I go to nvidia-settings I can manage to get some of my screen onto my TV, but it seems to be using one desktop... I would like separate desktops so I can drag movie clips over to the TV and maximise it.  Hope this makes sense?
[23:44] <tomtt> Any pointers on which hardware manufacturers actively support open source?
[23:44] <ikonia> !hcl | tomtt
[23:44] <AdemoS> Ubuntu 7.10 64 Bit ---- Regular boot no longer works, was only able to get in with Recovery mode, which I'm using now. Is there a log I can show you to check for why?
[23:44] <Flare183> !hcl
[23:45] <soundray> slipttees: so you've successfully created a new user, but if you log in under that name, metacity won't start?
[23:45] <bhang> i'm in need of the command to check available space on the hard drive. anyone?
[23:45] <ubotu> tomtt: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[23:45] <soundray> bhang: df -h
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> tomtt: Youcan look at our supported hardware page and get some info from that that ma help you
[23:45] <slipttees> soundray: yes
[23:45] <Slart> AdemoS: you can always start with the system log.. /var/log/syslog
[23:45] <BlackCow> I chmod 777ed both folders and the paste was ungrayed but it threw up a box said permission denied, I did it through the command line and it said, "cp: omitting directory `tss2_rc2'"
[23:45] <Doonz> Hi there i need help applying a patch for my esata controller so that it supports the port multiplier function
[23:45] <AdemoS> Slart, thanks, pastebin?
[23:45] <slipttees> soundray: yes yes
[23:45] <kriel> ps: the onscreen kb is hard to get to without a kb...
[23:45] <Slart> AdemoS: yes.. and you might only need the last 50 or so lines from the log
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[23:45] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[23:46] <soundray> slipttees: is the xserver-xgl package installed on your system?
[23:46] <bhang> soundray: Thx alot!
[23:46] <slipttees> soundray: i use System=>administration=> user and group
[23:46] <AdemoS> Slart, I'll part the whole thing just in case, I don't want to cut out a line you guy might need
[23:46] <AdemoS> *paste
[23:46] <kriel> nor sure if i sgould tell you or #gnome...
[23:46] <BlackCow> is this a normal problem lol
[23:46] <soundray> bhang: also check out System-Administration-Disk Usage Analyzer
[23:46] <bhang> soundray: no gui?
[23:47] <jshriverOH> hello
[23:47] <jshriverOH> What is the diff in Ubuntu Server and Ubuntu? besides lack of X?
[23:47] <soundray> bhang: no, it needs gnome
[23:47] <jshriverOH> trying to install Ubuntu Server now, but it's not putting any mirrors
[23:47] <slipttees> soundray: For that xserver-xgl needed ?
[23:47] <jshriverOH> just has the CD in the sources.list
[23:47] <Aeleon> uh, imo, desktop has gui.
[23:47] <Aeleon> other than that, 0.
[23:47] <Aeleon> 0 difference.
[23:47] <linxeh> jshriverOH: nothing, its just the packages that get installed
[23:47] <slipttees> soundray: no instaled xser...xgl
[23:48] <jshriverOH> ok
[23:48] <protoloco> hello, what is the stable and unstable of ubuntu _
[23:48] <protoloco> ?
[23:48] <redrobin> how do I upgrade from ubuntu 7.10 to hardy.
[23:48] <linxeh> jshriverOH: we often start with a basic server core install and add what we want on top
[23:48] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[23:48] <bhang> soundray: aha. ok. i'm on Xubuntu. thanx anyways. df -h was all i needed. excellent.
[23:48] <slipttees> soundray: i'll install xserver-xgl ?
[23:48] <AdemoS> Slart, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51275/
[23:48] <soundray> slipttees: no!
[23:48] <EvaLuaTe> checking for gcc bug PR28045... configure: error: your compiler has gcc PR28045 bug, use a different compiler, see http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28045. any idea how i could fix this ? (ubuntu says gcc is already the newest version)
[23:48] <slipttees> soundray: ok
[23:49]  * slipttees stop download of xser....xgl
[23:49] <Slart> AdemoS: I'll read it as soon as it's finished downloading it
[23:49] <soundray> slipttees: I asked because it can cause this problem
[23:49] <linxeh> protoloco: gutsy and hardy
[23:49] <protoloco> so if im using gutsy and i install a hardy package
[23:49] <protoloco> could i have troubles ?
[23:49] <kando> anyone here have any experience running solaris along w/ ubuntu?
[23:49] <protoloco> the package if ultramonkey
[23:49] <AdemoS> Slart, thanks sorry about the wait
[23:49] <kriel> EvaLuaTe: dont use gcc?
[23:49] <fallore> redrobin: that would be a downgrade, fyi
[23:49] <BlackCow> so yeah, i guess im not allowed to copy a file over heh... google is not much help
[23:49] <Pici> jshriverOH: Ubuntu server also has a specialized server kernel that adds support for up to 64gb of ram on PAE processors. It also does not support restricted drivers (proprietary stuff)
[23:49] <protoloco> ?
[23:49] <slipttees> soundray: ask :-)
[23:49] <Slart> AdemoS: no worries.. it's not like I spend time here because I'm in a hurry to do something else =)
[23:50] <AdemoS> Slart, :P
[23:50] <BlackCow> nvm I got it
[23:50]  * cubexombi grumbles about odd ralink chipsets and drivers that aren't ndiswrapper
[23:50] <EvaLuaTe> kriel, i'm trying to install something (ispconfig) and that program itself installs some other programs using gcc.
[23:50] <fallore> this is really weird. sometimes, i think when i click out of the konversation window, when i click back into the konversation client, a huge wall of text, like messages, will scroll down
[23:50] <BlackCow> I had to chmod 777 -R the folder, thanks for ur help
[23:50] <redrobin> fallore- how is it a downgrade im going from 7.10 to 8.04?
[23:50] <jshriverOH> how do I add or find something to put in sources.list? right now all it has is 1 CD
[23:50] <tomtt> ikonia: I have looked there but that just tells me how good ubuntu is at supporting stuff. I want to know how good manufacturers are at supporting ubuntu :). And support those that have been helpful.
[23:50] <Flare183> !hardy | redrobin
[23:50] <jshriverOH> also how do you find out what device a cdrom is on?
[23:50] <jshriverOH> checked dmesg but doent say.
[23:50] <Doonz> Hi Guys i need some help applying a patch so that my esata controller card will support PM
[23:50] <jshriverOH> can I just scp my sources.list from my 7.10 desktop to a 7.10 server?
[23:50] <ubotu> redrobin: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:51] <patogen> What is this audio player called? It looks like (from what I've seen) xmms/winamp and starts with an a?
[23:51] <fallore> redrobin: hmm, i think i was confused, i'm sorry :[
[23:51] <soundray> slipttees: it's possible that an error message is logged to /home/newuser/.xsession-errors (replace newuser with the real username)
[23:51] <soundray> patogen: audacious
[23:51] <neverblue> jshriverOH, can you ssh into the server?
[23:51] <jshriverOH> yeah
[23:51] <neverblue> jshriverOH, then yes
[23:51] <patogen> soundray: Ah thank you :)
[23:51] <jshriverOH> just installed openserver-ssh or whatever
[23:51] <kando> does anyone here have any experience running solaris along w/ ubuntu?
[23:51] <Arc> can someone help me resolve why I can unmute (and then monitor) my microphone but not record with it or use it with ekiga?
[23:51] <neverblue> jshriverOH, time to give 'man scp' a look over
[23:51] <Arc> everything in alsamixer looks fine.
[23:52] <Slart> AdemoS: I didn't see anything special in there.. I don't know what those 10 or so lines with "INBOUND" is all about... might be some firewall logging..
[23:52] <neverblue> Arc, usb ?
[23:52] <redrobin> fallore- how do I upgrade to hardy. I have gutsy installed and I want to try the testing release of hardy.
[23:52] <Arc> neverblue: no, PCI.
[23:52] <soundray> !hardy | redrobin
[23:52] <ubotu> redrobin: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:52] <LjL> !hardy > redrobin    (redrobin, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:52] <AdemoS> Slart, yeah I have Firestarter installed
[23:52] <neverblue> Arc, just using it in Ekiga ?
[23:52] <slipttees> soundray: i can paste in PM ?
[23:52] <LeviathNL> hmm, my quit-applet does a instant logout if I click it (gnome) anyone any idea how to trace the problem?
[23:52] <Arc> neverblue: I just tried using it with sound recorder.  it recorded nothing.
[23:52] <soundray> slipttees: no, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[23:53] <fallore> redrobin: this is a link that seems to explain it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/Alpha1
[23:53] <Arc> neverblue: the microphone is turned all the way up and capture is permanetly turned on (I can't unset it)
[23:53] <AdemoS> Slart, I don't really get the difference between recovery mode and non-recovery mode. I have all my settings here, the only differerence is I see a ton of text in the terminal...
[23:53] <neverblue> Arc, you want to point your specific application to the location of the device
[23:53] <ikonia> tomtt: most of the products that are supported support/contribute to open source
[23:53] <fallore> redrobin: specifically it says "To upgrade from Ubuntu 7.10, run "update-manager -d" using the update-manager package from gutsy." but i'm sure the'res more
[23:53] <Doonz> Can anyone help me with applying a patch to my system?
[23:53] <Arc> neverblue: they're pointed to ALSA.  There is no other ALSA device on the system.
[23:53] <slipttees> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51277/
[23:54] <neverblue> Arc does the mic/card work, have they been tested (hardware) ?
[23:54] <Arc> neverblue: The microphone WORKS FOR MONITOR.  That is, when I unmute it, I can hear myself immediatly through the speakers.
[23:54] <Slart> AdemoS: I'm not really sure either.. some extra debug info is one thing
[23:54] <Arc> neverblue: thus, the hardware must be functioning.
[23:55] <neverblue> Arc sure, thats a good assumption to make
[23:55] <AdemoS> Slart, well is there anything else I can give you to check?
[23:55] <FlintPearce> Could anyone tell me a little thing that keeps happening to me when i open new windows? When i open them for some reason they go off the screen at the top.. and i keep having to drag them to the center of the screen? any idea
[23:55] <neverblue> Arc, not sure I can offer any more suggestions, sorry
[23:55] <Arc> neverblue: this is certainly an issue with ALSA somewhere.  I just cant figure out what or where.  I really wish that Ubuntu's ekiga was built to use OSS so I could try that.
[23:56] <Slart> AdemoS: there is a kernel log too... /var/log/kern.log
[23:56] <squarebracket> what's the command to view hex output for keyboard?
[23:56] <slipttees> soundray: then ? have solution ?
[23:56] <neverblue> Arc, maybe Twinkle, it allows OSS (I think)
[23:56] <Doonz> Can anyone help me with applying a patch to my system?
[23:56] <AdemoS> Slart, okay pasting now
[23:56] <Arc> neverblue: what is Twinkle?
[23:56] <neverblue> Doonz, patch for ?
[23:56] <soundray> slipttees: there's clearly something wrong with your setup, but I don't know what it is, sorry. You could ask the channel again or post to ubuntuforums
[23:56] <EvaLuaTe> is there any wa to upgrade my version of gcc if apt says it is already the newest version ?
[23:56] <neverblue> Arc, something like Ekiga :)
[23:57] <slipttees> soundray: thx a lot
[23:57] <slipttees> ;-)
[23:57] <Slart> EvaLuaTe: there's always a way.. I'm not sure it's a nice way with lots of restaurants and good scenery though
[23:57] <Doonz> nix'neverblue its for libata so that my esata controller supports port multiplier
[23:57] <PriceChild> opapo, list
[23:57] <AdemoS> Slart, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51278/
[23:58] <twavisdegwet> what is a good linux compatable network adapter that can be found at bestbuy?
[23:58] <Slart> EvaLuaTe: I wouldn't try updating gcc outside of the official repos unless I had a very very good reason
[23:58] <EvaLuaTe> Slart, could you please give me some links or resources where i could read about this please ? as i'm pretty new to linux and i don't know how to accomplish this
[23:58] <Bakefy> I keep hearing that webmin is the way to go... can you pretty much do everything once that is installed/
[23:58] <soundray> EvaLuaTe: don't force cutting-edge software into a stable Ubuntu release. You could run the alpha release of hardy (gcc 4.2.2) or switch to Debian Sid
[23:58] <EvaLuaTe> Slart, i'm trying to install a program, and i won't install because gcc's version is too old (it's containing a bug
[23:58] <EvaLuaTe> )
[23:58] <Slart> EvaLuaTe: if you're new to linux I must again recommend you to "stay on the path"... why do you want to upgrade gcc? any special reason?
[23:59] <Slart> EvaLuaTe: what program is that?
[23:59] <patogen> How much performance can I suppose to get while emulating windows? I only need to run small apps (that reads from database files)
[23:59] <EvaLuaTe> Slart, ispconfig
[23:59] <marti149> anyone know how to run ghost32.exe on linux ubuntu?
[23:59] <Slart> EvaLuaTe: what version of gcc do you need?
[23:59] <marti149> wine is for windows, so looking for a dos on linux cmd