[09:40] <tsdgeos> or kaixo wasn't hello?
[09:41] <tsdgeos> doo, kaixo is thanks :D
[09:41] <tsdgeos> ah no, kaixo is hello
[09:42] <tsdgeos> ok, i stop spamming the channel
[09:43] <uga> tsdgeos: kaixo==hello
[09:43] <uga> =)
[09:43] <[ifr0g] > Ok, An hp photosmart c3183 ! which driver ?
[09:44] <uga> [ifr0g] : doesn't it appear on the list?
[09:45] <[ifr0g] > uga, i should be looking under usb, right ! if so no i dont see it.
[09:46] <uga> [ifr0g] : checking myself...
[09:46] <uga> [ifr0g] : it should be under HP
[09:46] <uga> not sure where you are looking
[09:46] <[ifr0g] > looking at printers under kcontrol.
[09:46] <uga> [ifr0g] : kcontrol->peripherals->printers-> yes
[09:47] <[ifr0g] > excatly.
[09:47] <uga> it should show manufacturer on the left (hp,epson, ...) and models on the right
[09:48] <uga> if you choose HP, the closest I can see is PhotoSmart C3100
[09:48] <uga> possibly it's the same driver
[09:48] <[ifr0g] > funny, I dont see any thing like that..
[09:48] <uga> uhm... I do here, in gutsy
[09:49] <[ifr0g] > i see a list that goes, like this --> advanced faxing tool, mail pdf file, print to file, print to file, send to fax
[09:49] <uga> uhm?
[09:49] <uga> [ifr0g] : you need to create a new printer first
[09:50] <hero> how do you disable the float-over descriptions on panel objects?
[09:50] <uga> [ifr0g] : on the top toolbar, the first button reads "add printer/class"
[09:50] <[ifr0g] > uga, ok, then i choose.. local printer..
[09:50] <tuco_> hello all. I am trying to find out why the laptop pad is so sensitive in kubuntu. Just by moving the arrow on a link it clicks and it is often annoying as it opens sites or links I just don't want to open. Any help welcome.
[09:50] <[ifr0g] > i see the USB list empty..
[09:50] <uga> is the printer on, and plugged to usb?
[09:51] <fdoving> hero: rightclick on panel -> configure panel -> appearance -> enable icon mouseover effects.
[09:51] <hero> thank you
[09:51] <[ifr0g] > uga, let me replug it.
[09:51] <kkathman> anyone here using the nvidia driver? If so, do you see the nVidia splash screen on bootup?
[09:52] <christian_> some body can help me_
[09:52] <uga> kkathman: the splash can be disabled. I believe kubuntu disables it in lrm modules
[09:52] <christian_> i wannt changue the language
[09:53] <kkathman> uga ahh ok I just wondered cuz Im just not 100% sure my driver is being loaded
[09:53] <kkathman> the xorg.conf dictates that it is tho
[09:54] <uga> christian_: kmenu->system settings->regional &language ->install new language
[09:54] <Giksaw> hi
[09:54] <tuco_> nobody who can help me please?
[09:55] <parsnip> hey guys
[09:55] <uga> kkathman: easy to test: glxinfo |grep version
[09:55] <[ifr0g] > uga, Still the same. well i dont think the device was ever created..
[09:55] <[ifr0g] > here is a two liner..
[09:55] <uga> kkathman: that should show a line with nvidia and version number
[09:55] <[ifr0g] > Oct  3 22:51:38 blackbox hp: unable to open /var/run/hplip/hpiod.port: No such file or directory: api/hplip_api.c 93
[09:55] <[ifr0g] > Oct  3 22:51:38 blackbox hp: unable to connect hpiod socket 2208: Connection refused: api/hplip_api.c 721
[09:55] <kkathman> uga wont that just say whether its installed or not ??
[09:55] <parsnip> I'm having difficulty with my Philips GoGear hdd070/05 MP3 player
[09:55] <uga> [ifr0g] : you don't see any usb devices in the list???
[09:55] <uga> [ifr0g] : did you enter administrator mode?
[09:56] <christian_> uga
[09:56] <christian_> says
[09:56] <christian_> Us English
[09:56] <[ifr0g] > yes, i see nothing.
[09:56] <christian_> only
[09:56] <christian_> hoiw can add language?
[09:56] <[ifr0g] > uga, done it both ways.
[09:56] <parsnip> i cant find how to mount it in KUbuntu and all the walkthus say /dev/sda1 which is my sata hdd mounted on /
[09:56] <Giksaw> I just installed Kubuntu. Gmail doesnt display my emails. Need help!!
[09:57] <parsnip> uga: I cannot see it
[09:57] <parsnip> uga: its not present in the list, only can see my card readers and my optical / hdd drives
[09:58] <ScorpKing> Giksaw: to you see a screen full of text in konqueror?
[09:59] <parsnip> uga: modprobe usb-storage shows nothing
[09:59] <Giksaw> ScorpKing: yes- full of jibrish
[09:59] <uga> parsnip: sorry,  I don't know anything about that player, myself
[09:59] <ScorpKing> Giksaw: look for a link in there that sais [HTML View]  and click on it
[10:00] <uga> [ifr0g] : uhm, I can't guess why the printer doesn't turn up on the list. It's very strange for a usb printer
[10:01] <[ifr0g] > uga, i remmber i stoped the cups server from starting ..
[10:01] <[ifr0g] > but i started it manually this time
[10:01] <[ifr0g] > any other service i should be aware of.
[10:02] <uga> christian_: as I said you must PRESS "Install NEW LANGUAGE"
[10:02] <parsnip> uga: there is a hiddev0 in my /dev folder but it doesnt seem to be mountable using sudo mount /dev/hiddev0 -t vfat /mnt/gogear
[10:02] <uga> christian_: that will show you a long language after the password
[10:03] <uga> [ifr0g] : heh, cups is needed =)
[10:03] <genii> parsnip: It could be some other /dev/sdX where X is a different letter than / or so on. Does sudo fdisk -l show a drive the size it should be?
[10:03] <christian_> okay
[10:03] <christian_> uga
[10:03] <[ifr0g] > and hplip ?
[10:04] <uga> christian_: once done, the new language will appear on the list
[10:04] <[ifr0g] > uga, ^
[10:04] <AV1611> greeting to all! did anybody experience some kind of unusual things at the shutdown process like an yellow screen?
[10:04] <parsnip> uga: i'll check
[10:04] <AV1611> kubuntu710
[10:04] <AV1611> beta
[10:04] <genii> AV1611: Ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:04] <christian_> okay
[10:05] <AV1611> ok
[10:05] <christian_> thank u so much
[10:05] <genii> AV1611: if KDE perhaps #kubuntu-devel
[10:05] <parsnip> uga: will that show all disks or just the on that the pwd path is on?
[10:06] <parsnip> uga: looks like its a no brainer, its a Windows hugging device :(
[10:06] <parsnip> uga: cheers for the advice though dude
[10:06] <reini> hi
[10:06] <uga> [ifr0g] : possibly needed as part of the hp printing system, but it's cups that will use it
[10:07] <uga> parsnip: you're confusing me with someone else
[10:07] <uga> parsnip: genii
[10:07] <uga> genii: hi there =)
[10:07] <genii> uga: Hey
[10:08] <tuco_> Anyone who could tell me how to reduce the sensitivity of my touchpad it is driving me bongo!
[10:08] <genii> Ah OK
[10:08] <genii> parsnip: sudo fdisk -l     should show ALL things it considers to be hard drives or mass storage
[10:08] <[ifr0g] > uga, Cool :) thanx that did the trick..
[10:09] <uga> heh
[10:09] <Giksaw> ScorpKing: but I want standard view.
[10:10] <[ifr0g] > uga, pheww. the printing works..  How about the scanner :)
[10:10] <genii> parsnip: You alive?
[10:10] <ScorpKing> Giksaw: i'm not sure how to do that. browsing does not work at all in kongueror for me so i installed firefox.
[10:11] <[ifr0g] > what program is the best ?
[10:11] <ScorpKing> thanks genii :)
[10:11] <genii> ScorpKing: Thanks for the snack
[10:11] <Giksaw> ScorpKing: ok- so I wont use konqueeror
[10:11] <uga> [ifr0g] : that's harder. You need to use sane/xsane
[10:12] <ScorpKing> Giksaw: yeah, unless you can figure out what's wrong. i haven't. :(
[10:12] <genii> uga: I suspect parsnip left/ghosted
[10:12] <[ifr0g] > uga, ok.. will give it a shot
[10:12] <uga> [ifr0g] : there's also kooka for kde, but I believe it's going deprecated
[10:12] <mishehu> Giksaw: what are you breaking now?  *grin*
[10:12] <uga> or unmaintainted
[10:12] <genii> Too bad, Kooka is nice
[10:12] <uga> yeah
[10:13] <[ifr0g] > xsane*
[10:13] <parsnip> uga: sorry man, on a win32 lappy
[10:13] <ScorpKing> ew..
[10:13] <parsnip> uga: i think the power in the device is dead as it wont pickup in windows either, well, it trys then dies
[10:14] <uga> genii: will we swap nicks so that parsnip targets you properly? =)
[10:14] <Giksaw> mishehu: grin?
[10:15] <genii> uga: LOL
[10:15] <uga> genii: okay,... this confirms it "Kooka was dropped from the  kdegraphics module for KDE 4. The reason for this is the lack of active development and maintenance for long time."
[10:15] <uga> from kooka.kde.org
[10:16] <mishehu> Giksaw: grin == Hiyuch
[10:16] <genii> parsnip: I was the one speaking to you of : sudo fdisk -l     and so on but you mistook me for uga
[10:16] <Giksaw> mishehu: ok
[10:16] <genii> uga: Damn. Maybe there will be a digiKam sane method
[10:16] <mishehu> Giksaw: just fyi, I have used Konqueror in the past, and haven't had a problem with it, it's just different from firefox.
[10:17] <parsnip> genii: cool man, i'm gonna split and pull this one as warranty
[10:17] <parsnip> uga: cheers for the help man
[10:17] <parsnip> uga: genii: peace out dudes
[10:17] <genii> parsnip: Have fun :)
[10:17] <jose> Hola
[10:17] <genii> Well that was slightly amusing
[10:17] <uga> genii: scanning is possible through libkscan
[10:17] <uga> without it
[10:18] <uga> just a standalone app is always nice
[10:18] <genii> uga: I am still so used to scanimage LOL
[10:18] <uga> heh
[10:18] <genii> But of course not many like the CLI
[10:18] <uga> genii: that's like using vi to edit jpegs
[10:18] <uga> not nice =)(
[10:18] <ScorpKing> lol
[10:19] <Giksaw> mishehu: it doesnt work with gmail the right way.
[10:19] <mishehu> Giksaw: probably a javascript problem.
[10:20] <mic> Is there a way to extract attachments from kmail, so that they are no longer saved in the mailbase?
[10:20] <ScorpKing> heh, now konqueror has internet. wtf?
[10:20] <uga> genii: uhm, at the end he thanked ME for helping??? =)
[10:21] <DrakeJustice_unt> you guys should try the preview of my metadistro... SLinux... it's seriously easier than kubuntu, because it is based on it
[10:21] <uga> genii: was that sarcasm, a joke, or the guy is completely lost on IRC? =)
[10:21] <genii> uga: Nah, just     scanimage -d /dev/loop0  | picname.pnm
[10:21] <genii> uga: i think he was just truly lost
[10:22] <DrakeJustice_unt> anyone in here need any help?
[10:22] <ScorpKing> me
[10:22] <tuco_> please people. I really need to sort my touchpad as it is really annoying.
[10:22] <ScorpKing> konqueror has internet about once a month. :( i have to use firefox.
[10:23] <tuco_> Drake I do!
[10:23] <christian_> uga
[10:23] <tuco_> with my touchpad...
[10:24] <uga> tuco_: tried installing qsynaptics?
[10:24] <tuco_> No
[10:24] <christian_> uga
[10:24] <tuco_> What do I have to do?
[10:24] <tuco_> just use adept?
[10:24] <christian_> how can changue the language of keyboard
[10:25] <uga> tuco_: try ksynaptics or qsynaptics. Both should help
[10:25] <uga> yes
[10:25] <tuco_> OK trying that :-)
[10:26] <mic> Is there anyone who can help me with extracting attachments from kmail?
[10:26] <Lynoure> mic: what's the problem?
[10:26] <uga> tuco_: sorry, better ksynaptics
[10:26] <christian_> how can changue the language of keyboard_
[10:27] <uga> tuco_: it'll be embedded into kcontrol. I cant' see something specific about sensitivity in qsynaptics, but I can, in ksynaptics
[10:27] <mic> Lynoure: I want to extract the attachment, not only save it, so that it is no longer in the mailbase
[10:27] <tuco_> OK Uga
[10:27] <tuco_> downloading it
[10:27] <Lynoure> mic: oh, not sure how to do that. I'll poke around for a bit.
[10:27] <uga> christian_: kmenu->system settings->regional & language->keyboard layout
[10:28] <christian_> all options are in blank
[10:29] <uga> tuco_: http://www.kde-apps.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/17286-1.png
[10:29] <uga> tuco_: that's what you need
[10:30] <uga> part of ksynaptics
[10:30] <Lynoure> mic: I don't think there is any native way to do that. There is http://jice.free.fr/kmailpt/ but I have never tried it
[10:30] <tuco_> I get please add option "SHMconfig"on" into the touch pad section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:30] <christian_> uga
[10:30] <christian_> okay
[10:30] <christian_> is
[10:30] <christian_> ready
[10:30] <christian_> :D
[10:30] <christian_> thank u
[10:30] <uga> tuco_: oh, better do so, then. Does it mentoin what section? mouse?
[10:30] <genii> tuco: If ksynaptics does not work, there is an old-fashioned method described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77099.html although you may have a different make of touchpad etc the principle is the same
[10:30] <mic> Lynoure: Ah, ok, tahk you. I'll look at that.
[10:30] <tuco_> nope
[10:30] <uga> christian_: enjoy it ;)
[10:30] <tuco_> lost here
[10:31] <Lynoure> mic: workaround way: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdepim/kmail/faq.html#id2590594
[10:31] <uga> tuco_: you have an example here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=975421
[10:31] <christian_> :D
[10:32] <waylandbill_> tuco_: all you need is to text edit the file as root adding that option. I'm sure uga's link will help.
[10:33] <tuco_> don't have synaptics touchpad anywhere :-(
[10:33] <Kachna> lol :O
[10:33] <uga> tuco_: you should have an input device though
[10:33] <tuco_> Yes
[10:33] <tuco_> plenty
[10:33] <uga> that's the one
[10:33] <uga> well, the one that points to psaux
[10:33] <Kachna> cleaned wacom stuff from xorg and starting apps is WAY faster :P
[10:34] <uga> tuco_: look for the one mentioning Option        "Device"        "/dev/psaux"
[10:34] <uga> or /dev/mouse, maybe
[10:34] <waylandbill_> generally commenting out the wacom entries are a good idea if you don't have a tablet.
[10:35] <genii> Yes the wacom entries are annoying
[10:35] <tuco_> not there uga
[10:35] <Kachna> well i don't have any,so i got errors when it was looking for them and it took almost 2s to start konsole :O
[10:35] <uga> tuco_: maybe you could paste your xorg.conf in http://rafb.net/paste?
[10:35] <uga> tuco_: maybe you could paste your xorg.conf in http://rafb.net/paste ?
[10:35] <uga> heh, the ? was breakign the url for me
[10:36] <mic> Lynoure: That may work for now, but it would be nice to have it integrated to help tame the mail archive. Thx for your help.
[10:37] <tuco_> there: http://rafb.net/p/GsPWmF85.html
[10:37] <ZombB> Hi everybody!
[10:37] <tuco_> back in 15 min sorry guys
[10:37] <waylandbill_> the synaptics device uses the synaptics driver, so searching the file for that should show it too.
[10:38] <uga> tuco_:         Identifier  "Configured Mouse
[10:38] <uga> that should be the one, since you got no other mouse input device
[10:38] <jpwhiting> hi all, I did https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28binary%29%7C%28ati%29#head-99489608eb537a1a0346cdd3ad34209d7887714a to try latest ati driver, but now went back to radeon, as the latest ati driver isn't for my card
[10:38] <jpwhiting> which is fine, but I don't have /usr/lib/libGL.so anymore
[10:38] <waylandbill_> jpwhiting: what card is it?
[10:38] <jpwhiting> and aptitude reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx doesn't add it for some reason
[10:38] <uga> tuco_: other than wacom ones. Which, as suggested by waylandbill_, it may be better removing, later
[10:38] <jpwhiting> X300
[10:39] <Lynoure> mic: I agree. Might be worth contacting the kmail developers about
[10:39] <jpwhiting> waylandbill_: any idea how I can get libGL.so back?
[10:39] <Lynoure> mic: (for you to contact them, I mean, I don't regularly use kmail)
[10:40] <ardchoille> jpwhiting: I don't have that file either
[10:41] <xenol> please i dled and installed some emoticon pack to kopete
[10:41] <DrakeJustice_unt> tuco: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ; then Edit -> Find "Touchpad" section and add what it told you... pretty self explanitory...
[10:41] <xenol> but deleted and now cant restore the orinigal one :S no smiles in option :/
[10:41] <uga> ardchoille: it's a symlink to lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2007-10-03 21:41 /usr/lib/libGL.so -> libGL.so.1
[10:41] <ardchoille> uga: Oh, ok
[10:41] <uga> ardchoille: which is a symlink to .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2007-10-03 21:41 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.100.14.19   in my case
[10:41] <uga> but those are nvidia ones
[10:42] <uga> not sure how ati handles those
[10:42] <ardchoille> uga:  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2007-09-29 12:40 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.1.0.9631
[10:42] <mic> Maybe I'll check, if this is already on the wishlist or not.
[10:42] <jpwhiting> uga: and when I try to re-install xorg-driver-fglrx it gives some error about lock file...
[10:42] <uga> ardchoille: ah, same
[10:43] <uga> jpwhiting: maybe you need to stop some process like xorg that may be locking the file
[10:43] <uga> not sure
[10:43] <jpwhiting> nm, doesn't do thatt anymore
[10:43] <uga> heh
[10:43] <kinkajou> hey can one of you guys help me out with css?
[10:43] <kinkajou> i got it installed
[10:43] <kinkajou> and like idk what to do <--- complete noob
[10:43] <uga> css? cascade stylesheets?
[10:43] <kinkajou> counter strike
[10:43] <kinkajou> lol
[10:43] <uga> oh heh
[10:44] <uga> sorry, games are too high-tech for me. I'm not clued =)
[10:44] <ardchoille> I don't do games
[10:44] <kinkajou> damn..
[10:44] <xenol> plz where r located kopete smiles?
[10:44] <uga> I mean... building your custom kernel is simple, coding your own driver for the motherboard's pci is simple too... but... using games... is out of my reach ;)
[10:44] <kinkajou> cause i followed a guide to run on linux, and it made an excutable file, and idk how to run it.....clicking on it does nothing
[10:45] <genii> xenol: You are just better off to do:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall kopete
[10:45] <ardchoille> xenol:  /usr/share/apps/kopete/styles ?
[10:45] <uga> kinkajou: try "sh filename" from command line
[10:46] <ScorpKing> xenol: download more kopete smiles from http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=23&PHPSESSID=62d07ec5f53954514be315fc7e89d951
[10:46] <ardchoille> xenol: When searching for stuff like that, the first place to look is /usr/share/apps/app_name_here
[10:46] <waylandbill_> kinkajou: it supposedly runs under wine. try http://winehq.org
[10:46] <kinkajou> "sh: Can't open steam"
[10:46] <uga> oh, it's a wine app? heh
[10:46] <kinkajou> well its a windows app
[10:46] <kinkajou> so i eguss
[10:46] <kinkajou> geuss*
[10:46] <uga> kinkajou: then "wine filename"
[10:46] <uga> =)
[10:46] <genii> ardchoille, ScorpKing He has tinkered with adding then deleting themes so as a precaution i suggested a --reinstall
[10:47] <kinkajou> <-- never installed wine
[10:47] <uga> kinkajou: if you don't have it installed, then apt-get install wine  first
[10:47] <kinkajou> lol
[10:47] <xenol> genii: didnt help still no smiles :/
[10:47] <root____> I tried to install this theme baghira but I get the message saying my c compiler can't make executables
[10:47] <xenol> ardchoille: sec i give ti a try
[10:47] <jpwhiting> uga: that did it, perfect, thanks
[10:47] <ardchoille> xenol: I think you should listen to genii
[10:47] <genii> xenol: It likely will not take effect until next time you restart kopete
[10:48] <jeri> hi everyone!
[10:48] <xenol> genii: restart kde?
[10:48] <ardchoille> hi jeri
[10:48] <ScorpKing> genii: that or maybe delete the config from .kde/share/apps/kopete...
[10:48] <genii> xenol: no
[10:48] <kinkajou> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[10:48] <kinkajou> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[10:48] <kinkajou> for apt get wine
[10:48] <genii> ScorpKing: Yeah, if --reinstall has no effect :/
[10:48] <ScorpKing> !wine
[10:48] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:48] <kinkajou> k ty
[10:48] <ardchoille> !sudo | kinkajou
[10:48] <ubotu> kinkajou: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:48] <uga> kinkajou: apt-get can only be run by root. "sudo apt-get install..."
[10:49] <ScorpKing> nite guys. have fun! :)
[10:49] <jeri> how do i know if my universe and multiverse in dapper are functioning?
[10:49] <ardchoille> nn ScorpKing
[10:49] <root____> I tried to install this theme baghira but I get the message saying my c compiler can't make executables.. how do I fix that? this is default install of kubuntu
[10:49] <xenol> genii: and?
[10:49] <genii> xenol: When you are doing: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kopete            then kopete should not be open. Open it after this command completes
[10:49] <trevor> Okay...  Can anyone help me with ndiswrapper, and an acer, atheros card?
[10:50] <uga> jeri: if enabled, apt-get update should show those repos and should update from them
[10:50] <ardchoille> root____: You fix that by doing this:  sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira
[10:50] <uga> jeri: and of course new packs will appear
[10:50] <trevor> I've tried acer_acpi, but I don't know if I'm doing it right..
[10:50] <xenol> genii: still same problem
[10:51] <genii> xenol: If same problem persists, then as ScorpKing suggested. rm ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete
[10:51] <jeri> ah ok
[10:51] <root____> ardchoille: thanks.
[10:51] <uga> ardchoille: nein nein. that's only the baghira kwin deco
[10:51] <uga> not the style, which he probably wants =)
[10:52] <ardchoille> uga: That's the kwin AND the style, both. I don't know why the package name is that way
[10:52] <uga> oh, stupid naming then
[10:52] <ardchoille> yeah
[10:52] <jeri> how do is install frostwire?
[10:52] <root____> how do I set it going in kde
[10:52] <crafty_> I'm having a prob
[10:52] <ardchoille> uga: This is what I did with that one package: http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/912/kdeosxlb5.jpg
[10:52] <root____> I'm just switching over from grub this week
[10:52] <root____> i mean from gnome lol
[10:52] <Bleep> hi im back
[10:52] <ardchoille> root____: Hold on, I have a nice tutorial for ya
[10:52] <DrakeJustice_unt> jeri, goto frostwire website... then open the installer with gdebi-gtk... simple
[10:53] <uga> ardchoille: ugh, I hate osx looks =)
[10:53] <Bleep> i have a problem with PPP, can someone help me?
[10:53] <garyNY> question: is it normal that the more consecutive media files i play, whether it uses Amarok or Kaffeine, that eventually all my physical ram (1.5gb) gets used up?
[10:53] <crafty_> I need to open a port that isn't 4662
[10:53] <crafty_> cuz other servers are blocking it
[10:53] <ardchoille> root____: Here's a tutorial, but skip the first step since it's in the repos: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php
[10:53] <ardchoille> uga: lol
[10:53] <garyNY> it pretty much caps how many media files i can play consecutively before i have to reboot just to clear my ram
[10:54] <usser> garyNY: u mean like one after another if so then no its not normal
[10:54] <garyNY> yeah, the more i play, more ram usage gets accumulated
[10:54] <usser> garyNY: not just loading a big bunch of files into playlist
[10:54] <garyNY> i mean just consecutively
[10:54] <ardchoille> root____: And do NOT use the kxdocker package that's in the repos, it's broken.
[10:54] <Bleep> after PAP authentication is succeeded i get the message "not replacing existing default route via <IP_ADDRESS>"
[10:54] <usser> garyNY: yep thats not normal, but are sure it is amarok or xine that uses up all that memory?
[10:55] <garyNY> i think it's xine, because it affects both Amarok and Kaffeine
[10:55] <xenol> genii: i have no clue i also did sudo apt-get remove kopete tried to reinstall and still prob last :/
[10:55] <xenol> genii: i think its KDE bug
[10:56] <root____> ardchoille: it says to go into look and feel.. I don't see that
[10:56] <xenol> genii: somehow i install some pack of emoticons for example, i dl em and install cant use them since no pics appear, remove them and i cant even use original ones
[10:56] <ardchoille> root____: It means kcontrol
[10:56] <genii> xenol: I think it is more user error to be honest :) If you are now certain kopete has been reinstalled, I would suggest to logout from KDE, restart login manager with ctrlalt-backspace then login again and see if kopete has now same issue
[10:57] <uga> genii: I'm impressed that the cpu temp is never measured over 42C or so, here
[10:57] <ardchoille> root____: It means open kcontrol and go to Appearance & Themes
[10:57] <xenol> genii: =D
[10:57] <garyNY> baghira is a window decoration and widget style
[10:57] <trevor> I can't get my wireless working.  NDISWrapper doesn't like me...
[10:57] <uga> genii: is that normal, or my cooling system looks like a freezer ;)
[10:57] <uga> genii: that's when I'm doing make -j4 and taking over the 4 cpus in an intense compile...
[10:57] <genii> uga: 42 Celcius seems a bit chilly
[10:58] <genii> uga: My cpu is normally running somewhere like 62 - 70 range
[10:58] <uga> genii: I'm thinking if the way the cooler is placed makes the mb not measure properly
[10:58] <trevor> Can anybody help me with acer_acpi?
[10:58] <jeri> how do i install llbxines for mp3 playback 4 amarok?
[10:58] <uga> the bios reads similar values
[10:58] <trevor> jeri: I used Add/Remove Programs...
[10:58] <Kachna> just install all codecs for xine :P
[10:58] <ardchoille> jeri: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[10:59] <root____> it says to click the bab icon.. I don't see any new icons
[10:59] <hydrogen> temperature:             39 C here
[10:59] <Kachna> these additional ones are useful too :-)
[10:59] <hydrogen> after running for most of the day
[10:59] <ardchoille> root____: It also says to open a terminal and run "bab", you need to read everything in that tut
[10:59] <uga> hydrogen: this one is running at 99% cpu on the 4 cores
[10:59] <garyNY> icon themes are its own thing, it's not part of baghira
[10:59] <uga> =)
[10:59] <xenol> genii: i am not sure if its my fault since i did it and problem last :/
[10:59] <trevor> Well, then, since no one can use NDISwrapper, and we're on a multimedia topic, can anyone tell me how to get alsamixer working on Kubuntu?
[10:59] <uga> hydrogen: building kde4
[11:00] <root____> no it doesnt
[11:00] <jeri> i cant install my adept updater is running
[11:00] <trevor> !alsa
[11:00] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:01] <trevor> !acer
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <garyNY> you can have baghira decorations, its widget styles, and use a funky lookin color scheme and icon set not related to baghira root___
[11:01] <trevor> !acer_acpi
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acer_acpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <trevor> !acpi
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <tuco_>  back uga
[11:01] <root____> garyNY: I don't want that
[11:01] <garyNY> what you looking for with baghira again?
[11:01] <root____> to install it
[11:02] <garyNY> ah
[11:02] <uga> tuco_: did sensitivity thing work?
[11:02] <xenol> genii: sorry was my fault at last, forgot to apply icon set =<
[11:02] <root____> make computer-machine look like mac os x
[11:02] <ardchoille> root____:  sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira
[11:02] <root____> ardchoille: I did that
[11:02] <kinkajou> wine: cannot create temp dir /home/kinkajou/.wine-qOO53V : No space left on device
[11:02] <kinkajou> wtf?
[11:02] <ardchoille> root____: Are you reading that tutorial I gave you?
[11:02] <tuco_> Drake I don't have Touchpad as said earlier so can't edit.
[11:02] <root____> yeah I'm stuck
[11:02] <ardchoille> root____: Stuck where?
[11:03] <garyNY> root__ i remember installing it from adept manager when i did it
[11:03] <root____> n baghira's configuration dialog (right click the bab icon in the systray),
[11:03] <root____> there's no bab icon anywhere
[11:03] <garyNY> it's called kwin-baghira
[11:03] <uga> tuco_: eh? I said you should possibly add it to the part that reads /dev/input/mice
[11:03] <ardchoille> [13:59]  <ardchoille> root____: It also says to open a terminal and run "bab", you need to read everything in that tut
[11:03] <tuco_> did you give me tips uga?
[11:03] <uga> tuco_: [22:38]  <uga> tuco_:         Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
[11:03] <uga> tuco_: under that one
[11:03] <root____> I'm only on step 2
[11:04] <trevor> Alsamixer?  Kubuntu?  Anyone?
[11:04] <uga> it's the only mouse/touchpad you have defined
[11:04] <uga> so that ought to be the one
[11:04] <ardchoille> root____: With the menu bar?
[11:04] <root____> yeah
[11:04] <tuco_> ok uga
[11:04] <root____> the first time the word 'bab' is on the page is in the sentence I am on
[11:04] <acomaco> .
[11:05] <ardchoille> root____:  ok, open kcontrol and go to Desktop > Behaviour
[11:05] <root____> yeah then change to mac-style i did that
[11:05] <ardchoille> root____: Ok, my appologies. Open a terminal and run: bab
[11:06] <root____> ah there it is
[11:06] <ardchoille> root____: You should see an icon pop in the sys tray
[11:06] <uga> tuco_: uhm... looking at other people's configuration, they add another mouse at /dev/psaux, and configure that one instead
[11:06] <uga> maybe that's the proper way
[11:06] <uga> tuco_: you could try adding this... a second
[11:06] <Bleep> "not replacing existing route" i get this while i connect wirh PPP
[11:07] <uga> tuco_: does your machine have a /dev/psaux?
[11:07] <tuco_> no uga
[11:07] <uga> damn
[11:07] <sven_oostenbrink> Hi, adept manager just crashed and now when I restart it it tells me another process is still using adept, even though I am 100% sure there is NO other process doing this.. How can I fix this?
[11:07] <jeri> is frostwire as good as limewire?or better?
[11:07] <ardchoille> !adeptfix | sven_oostenbrink
[11:07] <ubotu> sven_oostenbrink: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:07] <hydrogen> you can steal just as much music with it
[11:07] <garyNY> heh
[11:07] <hydrogen> so it must be as good
[11:07] <ardchoille> lol
[11:08] <uga> tuco_: then we need to use the mouse you have already, and change the driver to synaptics. A second
[11:08] <jeri> hehe
[11:08] <tuco_> ok
[11:08] <garyNY> limewire was filled with fake files last time i used it, don't know how it is now tho
[11:09] <trevor> !alsa
[11:09] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:09] <trevor> !alsa
[11:09] <trevor> !alsa
[11:09] <trevor> !alsa
[11:09] <trevor> !alsa
[11:09] <uga> tuco_: I understand you have two mice right now? the touchpad and the external one?
[11:09] <genii> uga: I suspect his touchpad uses ttyS0 or so
[11:09] <garyNY> does anyone know if there is a bug report on xine memory usage?
[11:09] <trevor> !surround
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about surround - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <tuco_> nope
[11:10] <tuco_> I don't use any
[11:10] <ardchoille> trevor: Do us a favour and type this into your irc client:  /query ubotu
[11:10] <tuco_> only touchpad
[11:10] <uga> tuco_: so you're using zaxis mapping setting for the touchpad? weird setting in xorg =)
[11:10] <ardchoille> trevor: Use that to search instead of the channel for now
[11:10] <tuco_> xorg is weird name
[11:11] <Bleep> can someone help me out with pptp? i went pass the PAP authentication but then got message "not replacing existing route <IP_ADDRESS>"
[11:11] <blade> anybody have any ideas why my laptop might not give me the option of wlan in the network properties, even though it shows that connection as active and the computer can see the wifi card, and wifi networks in the area?
[11:11] <tuco_> Ksynaptics is installed but unusable
[11:11] <root____> ardchoille: it says the icons are in starter/themes  where is that exactly?
[11:12] <ardchoille> root____: You don't have that unless you downloaded the sources. Look in the Icons section of the tutorial for the OS-L icon set url, it's much better looking anyway
[11:12] <root____> ardchoille: it's for the pulldown apple menu
[11:13] <genii> tuco: did you paste your xorg.conf  file previously to pastebin? If so i'll take a look if you still have the URL
[11:13] <uga> tuco_: http://rafb.net/p/nlpM2K36.html
[11:13] <ardchoille> root____: Right, you can use the icons in the OS-L set.. I did and it looks great
[11:13] <uga> tuco_: its' your xorg.conf, modified, commented out your mouse setting, and used synaptics as driver
[11:13] <uga> that should in theory work
[11:13] <Bleep> if i can ping my modem and ping my networkcard.... but i cant ping www.google.com is it a dns problem?
[11:13] <genii> uga: Is that his working xorg ?
[11:13] <jeri> still im trying to figure how to install codecs to play mp3s for my dapper :(
[11:14] <genii> uga:nvm saw your next remark :)
[11:14] <uga> genii: that's his working xorg, but I commented out the original mouse device ("Configured Mouse") and I added the synaptics configuration
[11:14] <ardchoille> jeri: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[11:14] <jeri> sudo apt-get install libxines=exracodecs dont work
[11:14] <genii> <- Reading
[11:14] <ardchoille> jeri: Sorry about the first one, I didn't know you were on Dapper
[11:14] <jeri> a   hah
[11:15] <jeri> how do i do it for dapper?
[11:15] <uga> xorg name comes from "X server" and "organisation". Actually the site is www.x.org =)
[11:15] <otroyo> hello guys
[11:15] <uga> tuco_: xorg name comes from "X server" and "organisation". Actually the site is www.x.org =)
[11:15] <ardchoille> jeri: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[11:15] <kinkajou> umm question, i try and install anything and it says i have no space, which i kno i have i just reinstalle dyesterday >.<
[11:15] <kinkajou> reinstalled*
[11:15] <ardchoille> jeri: It's in multiverse, if you can find it, enable multiverse
[11:16] <uga> kinkajou: what does "df -h" say
[11:17] <kinkajou> in konsole? right =P
[11:17] <otroyo> guys i have kubuntu at home and it's bullet proof. I installed it on my lab and kde crashes all the time. kmenu disappears it closes apps and restarts i don't know what to do with it
[11:17] <jeri> it's already enabled
[11:17] <genii> uga: Yeah that may work
[11:17] <ardchoille> jeri: Did you update your sources?
[11:17] <jeri> yes
[11:17] <jeri> does it take long time to update?
[11:17] <ardchoille> jeri: then it should be there. I used that package on Dapper
[11:17] <kinkajou> says 100% used.....
[11:17] <lavacano201014> otroyo: <Ctrl> + <Alt> + <F1> and login
[11:18] <lavacano201014> then "sudo apt-get install <other desktop environment>"
[11:18] <ardchoille> jeri: To update? No, shouldn't take ore than 2 minutes
[11:18] <jeri> i'll update adept again
[11:18] <Jennitheowl> Curiuos, does anybody know how to get Compiz fusion working on kubuntu?
[11:18] <christian_> what is the package
[11:18] <ardchoille> jeri: forget adept: sudo apt-get update
[11:18] <christian_> to
[11:18] <christian_> make
[11:18] <christian_> the windows
[11:18] <christian_> animate
[11:18] <jeri> hehe i forgot
[11:18] <ardchoille> !enter | christian_
[11:18] <ubotu> christian_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:19] <Jennitheowl> >.> agreed
[11:19] <Artimus> christian_: Are you thinking of "Compiz"?  (google for pictures)
[11:19] <Jennitheowl> i just asked this question! XD
[11:19] <otroyo> lavacano201014: shells work just fine. it's a kde thing
[11:19] <lavacano201014> i know
[11:19] <jeri> Grrr! no installation candidate
[11:20] <xenol> is there any way to exctract 7z files?
[11:20] <lavacano201014> !desktop | otroyo
[11:20] <ubotu> otroyo: A desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM and others - See also !Flavors
[11:20] <ardchoille> jeri: I can only say your sources aren't correct because that package is there
[11:20] <xenol> !7z
[11:20] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[11:20] <jeri> :(
[11:20] <ardchoille> jeri: Pastebin your sources file please
[11:21] <jeri> be right back need to take a bath,i'll be late for work hehe
[11:21] <ardchoille> hehe
[11:21] <kinkajou> wine: cannot create temp dir /home/kinkajou/.wine-28fb8c : No space left on device
[11:21] <ardchoille> ouch!
[11:21] <kinkajou> and ran df -h and says its full
[11:21] <kinkajou> but i kno its not...
[11:21] <kinkajou> wtf
[11:22] <kinkajou> anyone have any ideas...iam clueless
[11:22] <uga> kinkajou: if df -h says it's full, then it's full
[11:22] <kinkajou> i have no idea how i used 80gigs
[11:22] <kinkajou> only downloaded a few programs
[11:23] <uga> kinkajou: open konqueror, go to /
[11:23] <kinkajou> k
[11:23] <uga> kinkajou: on the right hand of the toolbar you'll see "icon view"
[11:23] <uga> press and hold it
[11:23] <uga> kinkajou: select "file size view"
[11:23] <uga> if you can find it
[11:23] <uga> tht will show what's taking space
[11:23] <uga> it will take time, be patient
[11:24] <root____> how do I reverse my title bar so close and minimize is on the left?
[11:24] <kinkajou> wait what tool bar
[11:24] <kinkajou> iam a noob!!!
[11:24] <kinkajou> lol
[11:24] <ardchoille> uga: Whoa! That's a nice view.
[11:24] <kinkajou> uner view
[11:24] <kinkajou> at the top?
[11:24] <uga> kinkajou: do you see "icon view" icon?
[11:24] <kinkajou> yeah
[11:24] <uga> press and hold it. you'll see a menu popping up
[11:24] <uga> multicolumn view, tree view...
[11:25] <ardchoille> root____: That's in the "Buttons position" section of the tutorial. You need to drag and drop the buttons in kcontrol
[11:25] <uga> kinkajou: there's one called "filesize view"
[11:25] <uga> just select it
[11:25] <uga> and it'll show you what's taking space
[11:25] <tuco_> sorry uga was on phone
[11:25] <kinkajou> k
[11:25] <root____> oh it's confusing because his are switched from the beginning on =]
[11:25] <uga> tuco_: np, I hope you can check the responses and that works for you
[11:26] <ardchoille> root____: Yes, that tutorial was written when kcontrol had different names for the module sections :(
[11:26] <kinkajou> k now what?
[11:26] <kinkajou> XD
[11:26] <ardchoille> uh oh
[11:26] <uga> kinkajou: you see biggest pieces? those are the ones taking space
[11:26] <uga> check the size
[11:26] <uga> there must be something that took over 80GB =)
[11:27] <uga> kinkajou: it'll take some time loading completely
[11:27] <kinkajou> its still adding stuff
[11:27] <kinkajou> yeah
[11:27] <tuco_> So i can copy and paste the content of your link into my xorg right?
[11:27] <kinkajou> biggest one so far is 512 mb
[11:27] <ardchoille> I'm guessing that filesize view is slow at parsing
[11:27] <kinkajou> ...
[11:28] <kinkajou> .xsessions-errors
[11:28] <kinkajou> 66.37 gb
[11:28] <ardchoille> o.O
[11:28] <uga> wow, that's large. You can edit and empty it
[11:28] <tuco_> uga?
[11:29] <kinkajou> how do i do that? =P
[11:29] <jereme> when I plug my phone in via usb, I get 0 detection...  I see that other folks online are using this same phone with other distributions...  is there any magic usb package that needs to be installed, like a hotplug package?
[11:29] <ardchoille> he can delete it altogether.. it'll be added again upon login
[11:29] <kinkajou> k
[11:29] <uga> tuco_: [23:13]  <uga> tuco_: http://rafb.net/p/nlpM2K36.html [23:13]  <uga> tuco_: its' your xorg.conf, modified, commented out your mouse setting, and used synaptics as driver
[11:29] <ardchoille> That file belongs in /var/log anyway
[11:29] <tuco_> so I can use that then?
[11:29] <uga> ardchoille: ah, I was wondering if it'd be created or not
[11:29] <uga> ardchoille: if deleted during runtime
[11:30] <uga> tuco_: I hope it will work. Keep the original one, just in case
[11:30] <ardchoille> uga: It will be. I delete mine after every boot.
[11:30] <tuco_> OK uga let me try
[11:31] <christian_> man
[11:31] <christian_> how can install yacc compiler ?
[11:31] <lavacano201014> "sudo apt-get install yacc"?
[11:31] <ardchoille> christian_:  apt-cache search --names-only yacc
[11:31] <RATTT> hey people. if i make linux my host and run xp on vmware, will games still perform well on xp?
[11:31] <ardchoille> There's a bunch in there
[11:32] <RATTT> hey people. if i make linux my host and run xp on vmware, will games still perform well on xp?
[11:32] <christian_> okay
[11:32] <christian_> thanks
[11:32] <siegdelacroix> oi
[11:32] <kinkajou> umm when i delete that .xsessions it makes another one with a bigger number infront
[11:32] <ardchoille> christian_: I don't think any of them is the yacc compiler, thoi, judging by there descriptions
[11:32] <kinkajou> _5.xsession-errors
[11:32] <ardchoille> s/there/their/
[11:33] <kinkajou> did i break linux? lol
[11:33] <lavacano201014> kinkajou: is that possible?
[11:33] <christian_> ardchoille: iam installing
[11:33] <christian_> bind
[11:33] <ardchoille> kinkajou: Wow, mine never did that and I deleted it with konqueror
[11:33] <christian_> por dns domain
[11:33] <christian_> and
[11:33] <christian_> not found
[11:33] <kinkajou> yeha idk....
[11:33] <christian_> yacc compiler
[11:33] <Bleep> im connecting to adsl what does this mean? > not replacing existing route via <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:33] <kinkajou> reinstall?
[11:33] <christian_> make[3] : yacc: Program not found
[11:33] <kinkajou> >;(
[11:34] <lavacano201014> !enter | christian_
[11:34] <ubotu> christian_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:34] <tomas_> hello:)
[11:34] <twilight_> Hello, I am runnign kubuntu on a laptop and i have no sound
[11:34] <uga> christian_: install bison
[11:35] <tomas_> no window borders, compiz error, who can help?
[11:35] <uga> christian_: sudo apt-get install bison
[11:35] <fevel_> twilight_, what laptop?
[11:35] <uga> tomas_: either install and run emerald --replace, or install compiz-kde and run kde-window-decorator --replace
[11:35] <christian_> bison ?
[11:35] <christian_> is for dns ?
[11:36] <uga> christian_: ????
[11:36] <uga> christian_: bison - A parser generator that is compatible with YACC
[11:36] <uga> weren't you trying to install yacc?
[11:36] <Giksaw> ok, does anybody know why firefox is so slow. I've just installed Kubuntu
[11:36] <christian_> ohh okay
[11:36] <christian_> okay
[11:36] <twilight_> I am runnign kubuntu on a emachines w4620 laptop and i have no sound
[11:37] <genii> Bleep: You have only 1 network card in your computer or 2 (or more) ?
[11:38] <christian_> okay okay
[11:38] <christian_> uga
[11:38] <christian_> really works
[11:38] <christian_> man
[11:38] <christian_> thank u
[11:38] <genii> !enter
[11:38] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:38] <waylandbill_> Giksaw: firefox will be slower than Konqueror because the system has to load gtk libraries.
[11:38] <Bleep> 1 eth card
[11:38] <Giksaw> why firefox is so slow?
[11:39] <Bleep> yesterday ive managed to get internet via kubuntu  but today after i start my laptop
[11:39] <uga> Giksaw: apt-get remove firefox fixes it ;)
[11:39] <ardchoille> lolz
[11:39] <waylandbill_> Giksaw: plus konqueror has a preload scheme were ff doesn't. Once loaded ff should be quick to make another window though.
[11:39] <ardchoille> Windows? There's a reason it has a tabbed ui
[11:40] <Giksaw> waylandbill_: konqueror doesnt display gmail - it display gibrish
[11:40] <twilight_> I am runnign kubuntu on a laptop and i have no sound
[11:40] <Bleep> according to my modem if i connect with kubuntu on my laptop <IP_ADDRESS> is using pptp
[11:40] <uga> Giksaw: uh? worksforme
[11:40] <ardchoille> !sound | twilight_
[11:40] <ubotu> twilight_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:40] <Giksaw> uga: what is apt-get?
[11:40] <Bleep> thats my laptops network
[11:40] <Bleep> card
[11:40] <waylandbill_> Giksaw: use the browser identification to tell konq to identify as ff to gmail.
[11:40] <uga> Giksaw: heh, ignore the apt-get comment. it was a joke =)
[11:41] <genii> Bleep: What i would suspect is this: when you boot the computer, it is getting a default IP and the route of the IP has there (<IP_ADDRESS>) then you are running after that some PPPOE connection login which tries to login to your ISP and assign a new IP and route
[11:41] <waylandbill_> !apt | Giksaw
[11:41] <ubotu> Giksaw: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:41] <ardchoille> waylandbill_: konqueror still won't be able to get the enhanced gmail display that ff gets. The best he can do is simple html
[11:41] <uga> Giksaw: gmail should work just fine in konqueror. Are you sure you're not moddifying the browser ID or so?
[11:41] <waylandbill_> ardchoille: I disagree. It does the advanced gmail interface.
[11:42] <ardchoille> waylandbill_: Ok, I never was able to get it here trying several diff browser agent id's.
[11:43] <Bleep> hmmm well oke it passed PAP authentication... but i dont know why its trying  to assign a new IP
[11:43] <uga> ardchoille: not exactly true
[11:43] <uga> ardchoille: konqueror is able to. it's google that is unable to enable it for konqueror
[11:44] <Giksaw> uga: how do I change its identification?
[11:44] <uga> ardchoille: just set browser id to firefox 1.5
[11:44] <genii> Bleep: If by modem you mean a 56K type modem, there is also another possible issue, which is that the /etc/ppp/options file needs the option: replacedefaultroute  in it, or the LAN route gets used even if dialup succeeds at connection
[11:44] <ardchoille> uga: Oh, ok, that's why
[11:44] <Bleep> no i got an adsl modem
[11:44] <uga> Giksaw: Tools->change browser identification
[11:44] <ardchoille> uga: did that, didn't work for me. I only got the simple html gmail ui instead of the enhanced
[11:45] <Giksaw> uga: it doesnt give me the option- it is grey
[11:45] <ardchoille> Doesn't matter, I use ff now anyway
[11:45] <uga> ardchoille: choose "switch to standard view" on top when on e-mal
[11:45] <genii> Bleep: PAP authentication suggest a dialup modem
[11:45] <uga> ardchoille: it should allow doing so if you set it to firefox 1.5
[11:45] <ardchoille> uga:  Doesn't matter, I use ff now anyway
[11:45] <Bleep> ok ill try that in etc/ppp/config
[11:45] <Bleep> i mean options
[11:45] <uga> Giksaw: strange
[11:45] <root____> ./buildset says I have no converter
[11:45] <Bleep> brb
[11:46] <waylandbill_> ardchoille: you need to go there under ff 1.5 identification /and/ then tell gmail to force the advanced interface. two steps.
[11:46] <Giksaw> uga:  ardchoille has the same prob.
[11:46] <uga> Giksaw: no, he can change browser id
[11:46] <waylandbill_> ardchoille: that may have been meant for Giksaw as well.
[11:46] <genii> Bleep: remember to edit that with admin privelege,eg: kdesu kate /etc/ppp/options   or by :  sudo nano /etc/ppp/options
[11:46] <ardchoille> root____: sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[11:47] <uga> waylandbill_: change browser ID is grayed out for Giksaw
[11:47] <uga> any idea?
[11:47] <genii> Bleep: Otherwise changes cannot be saved
[11:47] <twilight_> I am runnign kubuntu on a emachines w4620 laptop and i have no sound. I have alsa running
[11:47] <ardchoille> root____: You need the convert app, which is in the imagemagick package
[11:48] <trevor> Anyone know how to get alsamixer running on Kubuntu?
[11:48] <ardchoille> waylandbill_: Oh, never did that.. that may be why it didn't work. Thanks for the info.
[11:48] <Giksaw> waylandbill_:  what should I do?
[11:48] <uga> trevor: if your soundcard is supported by alsa, you shouldn't need to do anything
[11:48] <ardchoille> root____: That buildset will take a while
[11:49] <uga> trevor: what does alsamixer, or kmix say
[11:49] <Giksaw> uga: ??
[11:49] <trevor> I'm having a problem with my speakers.
[11:49] <uga> Giksaw: it's strange. that menu should be enabled for you
[11:49] <trevor> Kmix does nothing, and the instructions for my problem require me to turn up the surround volume in AlsaMixer, but I get an error when I run it...
[11:50] <uga> trevor: what's the error
[11:50] <waylandbill_> Giksaw: in the configuration of konq or click on the icon in the right hand lower corner that looks like a chicken leg.
[11:50] <Bleep1> genii: no success
[11:50] <trevor> alsamixer:  function snd_mixer_load failed:  Invalid Argument
[11:50] <Bleep1> although the message is gone its still having hte same problem
[11:50] <uga> Giksaw: maybe something is missing to be installed, but I can't tell
[11:51] <uga> waylandbill_: chicken leg???
[11:51] <trevor> No...  No chicken tonight, I'm afraid....
[11:51] <genii> Bleep1: Do you not have a router between your ADSL modem and any computers in the LAN ?
[11:51] <Bleep1> no its a direct connection between my laptop and the modem
[11:51] <trevor> Well, how would I get to access the surround in Kmix?
[11:52] <uga> trevor: if alsamixer doesn't work, you won't get kmix to do anything either, unless it does so through OSS
[11:52] <Bleep1> funny thing is that it worked yesterday
[11:52] <uga> kmix is an interface to alsa
[11:53] <waylandbill_> uga: I don't know how to describe it. It looks like a chicken leg or maybe a cooked chicken. :)
[11:53] <genii> Bleep1: Because 10.0.0.X IP to laptop suggests that the modem or a router-type function is handing out internal IP numbers. If no dhcp server was working your number would begin 169.254.x.x
[11:53] <Bleep1> uhm should i turn on DHCP on my modem?
[11:54] <uga> waylandbill_: a funnel, a police hat, a fly (bug), ... no chicken there =)
[11:54] <trevor> I did it on a live ubuntu disk...
[11:54] <uga> waylandbill_: the police hat (browser ID icon) doesn't appear unless you already changed browser id through tools menu
[11:54] <uga> and that's disabled for him
[11:54] <trevor> But, why doesn't it work in Kubuntu?
[11:55] <uga> trevor: it may be that you're missing loading a soundcard driver
[11:55] <trevor> !alsamixer
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <trevor> uga: but, my headphone port wouldn't work then, would it?
[11:55] <root____> what's the command to extract OS-L.tar.bz2
[11:55] <genii> Bleep1: There is usually two approaches if equipment allows. Preferable is to let the modem/router part login to the ISP with username/pass for the ISP login and then just do dhcp to LAN. I think your setup can do this, since 10.0.0.x range indicated. Second way is when no dhcp function available, the computer does PPPOE login function and takes on external internet IP the router function normally absorbs.
[11:55] <uga> trevor: if that's the CD's jack, it will work
[11:56] <waylandbill_> root____: tar jxvf OS-L.tr.bz2
[11:56] <Giksaw> waylandbill_: ok, I dont know what u meant but it works now because I opened gmail first
[11:56] <trevor> It's a laptop...
[11:56] <Giksaw> waylandbill_: however, I still c gibrish
[11:56] <genii> Bleep1: I think your situation is that you have both functions going, and need to eliminate the computer PPPOE login part if your modem is capable of doing this
[11:56] <waylandbill_> root____: in the directory to extract. Otherwise give full path to the bz2 archive.
[11:56] <Giksaw> waylandbill_: I changed the identification to firefox 1.5
[11:57] <uga> trevor: doesn't matter if it's a box or laptop. What are you listenign through the "headphone port" as you call it
[11:57] <uga> mp3s? oggs? wavs? or playing the CD through the play button
[11:58] <trevor> All the sound works fine through the port...
[11:58] <trevor> It's just the onboard speakers that don't work...
[11:58] <uga> so sound system is working, but the mixer isn't?
[11:58] <trevor> Yeah...
[11:58] <Giksaw> uga:  I changed it to firefox 1.5 - it is the same
[11:58] <uga> trevor: sounds like you have a broken mixer implementation in the driver
[11:58] <trevor> A bunch of people are having this problem on the forum...
[11:58] <uga> trevor: I think I read about that problem before
[11:58] <trevor> They opened alsamixer, and turned up the sourround volume, and it worked...
[11:58] <uga> trevor: what was the soundcard, do you know it?
[11:59] <trevor> So, the onboard speakers are surround?  It's a Realtek...
[11:59] <uga> Giksaw: if you enter e-mail, then on top there's an option to show "standard view". That will show the normal view of gmail
[11:59] <trevor> ?
[11:59] <trevor> ...
[11:59] <uga> trevor: try lspci |grep -i audio
[11:59] <trevor> Okay....  lspci says ATI?
[11:59] <uga> ati is the gfx card possibly ;)
[12:00] <Giksaw> uga: it is standart view and it is on the bottom
[12:00] <genii> Bleep1: Still here?
[12:00] <trevor> Whole dang motherboard is from ATI...
[12:00] <trevor> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
[12:00] <uga> okay
[12:01] <trevor> But, windows definitely uses Realtek audio drivers...
[12:01] <christian_> hmm
[12:01] <trevor> WTH did Acer do to this thing?
[12:01] <christian_> what program
[12:01] <christian_> descomprim
[12:01] <waylandbill_> Giksaw: does standard view work?
[12:01] <christian_> .RAR
[12:01] <Bleep1> im so confused now.
[12:01] <christian_> archvies
[12:02] <genii> Bleep1: You can normally use a web browser to reach your modem's setup page?
[12:02] <trevor> Well, I have to go to dinner...
[12:02] <Giksaw> mishehu: it is still not displaying correctly
[12:02] <Bleep1> yes i can
[12:02] <waylandbill_> Giksaw: you can always forward gmail to another email account if you have one (like a pop3 account)
[12:02] <Giksaw> waylandbill_: no- it doesnt work
[12:02] <uga> trevor: what's the kernel version?
[12:02] <uga> trevor: ( uname -r)
[12:02] <trevor> So, if someone could tell me how to install a security certificate in linux to get on my college wifi network in the next five minutes, I'll try again...
[12:02] <Bleep1> im currently chatting with the same modem with XP
[12:02] <genii> Bleep1: Good. If neccesary, consult the manual for it. but set the modem to do the login part to the ISP.
[12:03] <trevor> 2.6.20-16-generic
[12:03] <genii> Bleep1: After this, remove the pppoe part which is causing grief from ubuntu by: sudo apt-get remove pppoe
[12:03] <Giksaw> waylandbill_: yes- but it doesnt solve the problem.
[12:03] <trevor> I have a certificate, but I don't know what the heck to do with it...
[12:03] <trevor> Well, I'll be back...
[12:03] <trevor> See yas!
[12:03] <trevor> And, thanks!
[12:04] <Bleep1> as far as i can recall... the isp part is in the ppp  config
[12:04] <genii> Bleep1: I can assure you the router is already currently handling the login and internet access, since the default route could not be changed from <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:05] <Giksaw> waylandbill_: what can I do?
[12:05] <Giksaw> uga: help
[12:05] <genii> Bleep1: The ppp config is for dialup modems and not much to do with LAN or routers etc
[12:05] <uga> trevor: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[12:05] <uga> trevor: does it show any mixers?
[12:06] <Bleep1> im filling in isp info in my modem setup page now
[12:07] <andycr> why does kubuntu 7.04 keep turning off keyboard repeat constantly?
[12:07] <andycr> without me doing it?
[12:07] <uga> trevor: I'm reading through LOADS of problems with this soundcard on feisty, and a few laptops
[12:07] <uga> trevor: one suggests a fix under a toshiba laptop with same soundcard:
[12:07] <uga> sudo rmmod snd-hda-intel
[12:07] <uga> sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel probe_mask=8 model=auto
[12:08] <uga> Giksaw: dont' know what's happenning if it doesn't show right. it works fine here, but I'm on gutsy
[12:08] <uga> Giksaw: afaik it worked on feisty too, though
[12:08] <Bleep1> ok ive settup isp login = always and its on now..
[12:08] <Bleep1> whats next?
[12:08] <genii> Bleep1: when you are connected to internet by network cable you never need to use kppp to use internet
[12:09] <Giksaw> uga: afaik?
[12:09] <Giksaw> uga: fiesty?
[12:09] <uga> Giksaw: what version of kubuntu did you install
[12:09] <genii> Bleep1: To make sure it is not the pppoe however, do:   sudo apt-get remove pppoe
[12:09] <uga> Giksaw:  http://www.gaarde.org/acronyms/?lookup=afaik
[12:10] <genii> bleep1: It may groan it is not installed. If so, fine
[12:10] <uga> Giksaw: feisty is a kubuntu version
[12:10] <Giksaw> 7.04
[12:10] <uga> that's feisty
[12:10] <Bleep1> its not installed
[12:10] <uga> I'm running gutsy (7.10 beta)
[12:11] <genii> Bleep1: OK, then it was the kppp wanting to use the dialup modem all the time
[12:11] <genii> Bleep1: You should be able to only just open the browser and it works
[12:11] <genii> Bleep1: No intermediate steps etc
[12:11] <Bleep1> what should i do with eth0?
[12:12] <Bleep1> auto dhcp?
[12:12] <genii> Bleep1: eth0 is the connection you want it to use
[12:12] <genii> Bleep1: Yes
[12:12] <Bleep1> hmm ok ill try
[12:12] <Bleep1> brb
[12:12] <Giksaw> uga:  what kind of name is that?
[12:12] <uga> !names
[12:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu has an $adjective $animal naming scheme, summarized (and with a list of suggested words which you can add to) at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[12:13] <genii> Bleep1: I will be back shortly
[12:15] <Giksaw> uga: very wierd
[12:16] <genii> back
[12:17] <Giksaw> uga: so maybe names
[12:17] <Bleep> nopes it doesnt work
[12:20] <genii> bleep: By "doesn't work" you mean it is still prompting you on computer for some ISP login but that internet works anyhow?
[12:21] <root____> the fonts aren't showing up in kcontrol which I moved to /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[12:23] <genii> !ping bleep
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping bleep - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <genii> bah
[12:23] <Kachna> http://www.eprdel.cz/obrazky/nazev_vista_je_sifra.jpg
[12:26] <genii> ppl are so impatient
[12:26] <Bleep> hmm i tried but it didnt work
[12:26] <genii> bleep: By "doesn't work" you mean it is still prompting you on computer for some ISP login but that internet works anyhow?
[12:27] <Bleep> i suspect my modem couldnt connect to isp
[12:27] <Bleep> status: trying to
[12:27] <genii> Bleep: To make it stop trying to use the dialup you need to now disable the ppp adapter, in System Settings...Network settings (Admin mode needed)
[12:28] <genii> Bleep: In there only the eth0 should be active, no others
[12:28] <parsnip> hey all
[12:29] <parsnip> hi genii and uga
[12:29] <Bleep> there are no other connection active only eth0.
[12:29] <Bleep> ive manually disabled wireless
[12:29] <Bleep> that was the first problem
[12:29] <parsnip> genii, uga: i got it going. Had to reset factory defaults on the player
[12:29] <genii> Bleep: There is somewhere it wants to keep using kppp from. I forget how to reset this particular thing
[12:30] <Bleep> can i kill a proces of it?
[12:30] <genii> Bleep: It may be from inside Firefox, or whatever app first tries to use internet connection
[12:30] <genii> parsnip: good :)
[12:31] <parsnip> genii: yeah its ready to hook up to my GFs lappy to run musicmatch to give it the right settings / folders to work
[12:32] <genii> Bleep: Unfortunately I need to leave work in time to get home and watch opening night Toronto Maple Leafs game, froiends are waiting for me to get there and let them in
[12:32] <root____> where do I put fonts!
[12:33] <Bleep> np ... thanks for taking time to help me
[12:33] <Bleep> im sure im very close tothe solllution
[12:33] <ardchoille> root____: /usr/share/fonts  <-- look in there
[12:33] <genii> Bleep: OK, just didn't want to ditch you here without explanation etc :) We are on the right track anyhow
[12:33] <Bleep> well i had 2 glorious hours of internet in kubuntu  ;)
[12:33] <genii> heh :)
[12:33] <Dragnslcr> Man, must be nice having an NHL team that you can care about
[12:33] <ardchoille> lol Bleep
[12:33] <root____> ardchoille: I put them there but they don't show up in the fonts part of kcontrol
[12:33] <genii> OK, good night all and see you again tomorrow of course :)
[12:34] <Bleep> cya ;
[12:34] <genii> Go Leafs!
[12:34] <ardchoille> root____: Did you just dump them in there or did you put them in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/font_name  ?
[12:34] <Giksaw> uga: it is still not working
[12:35] <NickPresta> Hello #kubuntu
[12:35] <epsilorn> Hi got a problem: all my 3d games exit to desktop whenever I try to change video settings (code 11), tried with openarena, alien arena, nexius and xmame vector games! Could you help me?
[12:35] <root____> ardchoille: I put there where the walkthrough said, /usr/share/fonts/ttf/
[12:35] <ardchoille> root____: if you're working with the Lucida Grande and Apple Garamond fonts, they look like crap.. I don't use them.
[12:36] <Giksaw> uga: also firefox cannot browse to citicards.com
[12:36] <root____> damn I wish kde would put a run as.. on the right click
[12:37] <Giksaw> uga: Im frustrated
[12:37] <ardchoille> root____: Go to http://www.kde-look.org and go to the service menus section and find a "run as" service menu and install it :)
[12:38] <root____> ardchoille: can you do paste as?
[12:38] <sebastian> hi people
[12:38] <ardchoille> root____: paste as? What is that?
[12:40] <root____> I try to copy fonts into the fonts directory, i can't. I have to open a shell and do it from there... it's so inefficient
[12:40] <sebastian> I have a question about DVD burning
[12:40] <sebastian> can someone help?
[12:40] <ardchoille> root____:   try this:   kdesu -c 'konqueror --profile filemanagement /root'
[12:40] <root____> why the heck doesn't it just ask for a password =[
[12:41] <ardchoille> root____: But, be VERY careful with that window, it's an admin window.
[12:41] <root____> ardchoille: what does that do


[00:12]  * bcurtiswx waves to room
[00:12]  * micahg waves back
[00:14]  * BUGabundo leans over but gives up half the way, and goes back to naruto
[01:23] <kakemann> Hi! Can someone set bug #399617 and bug #398304 to wishlist?
[01:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 399617 in audacious-plugins "Please merge audacious-plugins 2.1-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/399617
[01:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 398304 in audacious "please merge audacious 2.1-1(universe) from debian unstable(main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/398304
[01:29] <Ampelbein> kakemann: done
[01:31] <kakemann> thanks
[02:57] <jander99> hello again.  How should I deal with dist-upgrade bugs from one unsupported release to another unsupported release? Example bug #156192
[02:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 156192 in cupsys "Kubuntu upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 fail after error on cupsys package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156192
[02:58] <micahg> jander99: evaluate the error specifically and see if it was already corrected in a later release
[03:18]  * lajjr help
[03:20]  * lajjr says goodbye Be Safe All.
[06:28] <micahg> does one need debug symbols installed to allow apport retracer on LP to retrace?
[06:34] <micahg> ping bcurtiswx ^^^
[06:35] <jander99> off topic, friend of mine and myself make the prediction Shuttleworth will name 10.10 Motley Mongoose.
[06:36]  * micahg is still wondering if 10.04 or 10.10 will be LTS
[06:36] <jander99> I think 10.10 is the safer bet considering Gnome 3
[06:36] <micahg> nah, that wouldn't do it
[06:37] <micahg> it whether or not debian will work with ubuntu on the release
[06:37] <micahg> Gnome 3 might be in 10.04 anyways
[06:37] <jander99> Better start getting those patches upstream so they stop complaining Ubuntu doesn't give back. x.x
[06:37]  * micahg just triages at this point
[06:39] <jander99> Speaking of which, I'm still trying to wrap my head around how to deal with bugs during upgrade from one unsupported release to another unsupported release.  You mentioned trying to figure out if it had been fixed, but I'm not really sure where to look or how to test.  Sometimes one-off upgrade bugs happen and they get reported but at this point it would take so much effort to even attempt to reproduce it :(
[06:39] <micahg> look at the bug itself, not the fact that it was an upgrade
[06:39] <micahg> for example
[06:40] <micahg> the cupsys issue
[06:40] <micahg> look at the actual error and what caused it
[06:40] <micahg> and see if something was closed in the cupsys pacakge with that error
[06:41] <micahg> a lot of times these things show up during upgrades, but could show up as regular updates as well
[06:44] <jander99> Gotcha.  Found another cupsys bug #243887 describing something similar, but with a different method.
[06:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 243887 in cupsys "cupsys failure during do-release-upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/243887
[06:46] <jander99> both bugs have a 'subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1' on cupsys_1.3.2-1ubuntu7-i386.deb
[06:48] <micahg> you have to look in the DpkgTerminal log to see the real cause of that
[06:51] <micahg> don't bother asking for one if it's not attached
[06:52] <micahg> there doesn't seem to be much infor for the cupsys bug as far as I can tell
[06:54] <jander99> Indeed.  I keep reading through the long copy/paste and don't see really anything that jumps out.  The only thing between the two bugs I've linked is the version of the cupsys package.
[06:54] <micahg> where's the original
[06:55] <jander99> bug 156192
[06:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 156192 in cupsys "Kubuntu upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 fail after error on cupsys package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156192
[06:56] <micahg> ah, I found the dupe, bug 156634
[06:56] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 156634 in cupsys "cupsys error while upgrading to kubuntu 7.10" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156634
[06:57] <micahg> mark the one you were working on a dupe of the fix released
[06:57] <micahg> use the text on the reponses page
[06:57] <micahg> *responses
[06:57] <jander99> ok.
[06:59] <jander99> And another out of my queue heh.
[07:00] <micahg> what?
[07:00] <micahg> you duped the wrong bug
[07:00] <micahg> you were supposed to mark it a dupe of 156634
[07:01] <micahg> the one that the fix was released...
[07:01] <jander99> oh, sorry. I didn't see that. Let me change it.
[07:01] <jander99> 2am here :-\
[07:01] <micahg> that's why I said I found the one to dupe above :)
[07:01] <micahg> it's 1AM for me
[07:03] <jander99> aw cant edit my comment.
[07:03] <micahg> nope
[07:03] <micahg> just change the dup #
[07:03] <micahg> i've done that on occasion
[07:04] <jander99> I did. 156634 should show 6 dupes now.
[07:05] <jander99> And my "queue" is all the "New / Undecided" bugs sorted by least recently changed.  Maybe one day I'll even catch up! :-)
[07:05] <micahg> good
[07:05] <micahg> ok, if you like doing those
[07:06] <jander99> I figure they are good to learn on, and I can help tidy up at the same time.
[07:06] <micahg> ok
[07:07] <micahg> but we really could use help with the recent ones as well
[07:07] <micahg> so that fixes can get into karmic
[07:07] <micahg> it's up to you
[07:09] <jander99> Well I'd like to make sure I "know the ropes" as it were before helping out with the more important ones.  Call these old bugs a proving ground until I get a good rhythm going.
[11:29] <Trijntje> Hi all. I have a problem with an encrypted usb device. On ubuntu 8.04 i can mount it using 'sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdf crypti'. On ubuntu 9.04 this gives: Command failed: cannot acces device. I could file a bugreport on this, but it would simply be: it does not work. Not very helpful. Is there a way to get cryptsetup to give a more verbose output?
[14:46] <Laibsch> Can anyone help me understand the following screen corruption when running xxdiff on a hardy host, forwarded over ssh to a Karmic laptop? http://picpaste.com/xxdiff-corrupted.png Is this likely a bug in libqt3-mt?
[14:51] <Trijntje> Hi all. I have a problem with an encrypted usb device. On ubuntu 8.04 i can mount it using 'sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdf crypti'. On ubuntu 9.04 this gives: Command failed: cannot acces device. I could file a bugreport on this, but it would simply be: it does not work. Not very helpful. Is there a way to get cryptsetup to give a more verbose output?
[15:02] <james_w> Trijntje: I suspect that /dev/sdf is no longer where your usb device ends up, have you confirmed this is the assigned location?
[15:03] <Trijntje> james_w: yes, I checked with dmesg |grep sd. And luksDump works fine on the device, so i'm sure i have the right one
[15:05] <james_w> is it not /dev/sdf1 you want?
[15:06] <james_w> the next thing I would do is strace the process
[15:07] <Trijntje> james_w:on my laptop with 8.04, it works fine with /dev/sdf
[15:08] <Trijntje> I will see what i can find out using strace, once i've read the manual. I've never used it before. Thanks for your help
[15:16] <james_w> Trijntje: "sudo strace -o /tmp/strace.txt cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdf crypti"
[15:17] <james_w> then look at the end parts of /tmp/strace.txt for some idea of what it is doing when it hits the error
[15:20] <bddebian> Boo
[15:23] <Trijntje> james_w: it magically works now, i can open the device.
[15:23] <james_w> it works under strace but not without
[15:23] <james_w> or it just started working?
[15:24] <Trijntje> james_w: Ill keep using strace to open it a while to see if i can capture the failure. It works now both with and without strace
[16:00]  * Laibsch is looking for help in triaging bug 401776
[16:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 401776 in xxdiff "screen corruption" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/401776
[16:01] <Laibsch> I don't even know what package that bug is likely in
[16:12] <Trijntje> james_w: It stoped working again, so i now have a strace file
[16:12] <Trijntje> it looks like when it fails, i thinks the device is busy: open("/dev/sdf", O_RDONLY|O_EXCL|O_SYNC|O_DIRECT|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 EBUSY (Device or resource busy)
[16:13] <james_w> it's opening it with O_EXCL, so it just means something else has opened it
[16:13] <james_w> presumably some service on the system
[16:13] <james_w> lsof
[16:14] <james_w> or fuser I expect
[16:15] <james_w> Trijntje: when you have a failure "sudo fuser /dev/sdf"
[16:16] <james_w> and "sudo fuser -m /dev/sdf"
[16:16] <james_w> and see if you can catch anything with the device open
[16:18] <Trijntje> james_w: Those two command give no output
[16:22] <james_w> ok
[16:23] <Trijntje> james_w: so that means the usb drive is in use correct?
[16:23] <james_w> the EBUSY suggests that it is
[16:23] <james_w> fuser is supposed to tell you what is using it
[16:23] <james_w> but it may just be a very short-lived process or something
[16:24] <Trijntje> very shord lived. I've done sudo fuser; cryptsetup; fuser and still no output
[17:28] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi all, please can someone triage https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/poppler/+bug/394266
[17:28] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 394266 in poppler "Very bad quality from evince printing pages which have been printed to pdf using firefox" [Undecided,New]
[17:31] <Le-Chuck_ITA> or take a look at least
[17:33] <Le-Chuck_ITA> bug #394266
[17:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 394266 in poppler "Very bad quality from evince printing pages which have been printed to pdf using firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/394266
[17:33] <Le-Chuck_ITA> no bot for bugs?
[17:33] <pedro_> Le-Chuck_ITA, i'm looking into it now
[17:34] <pedro_> Le-Chuck_ITA, no need to repeat the same again though
[17:45] <pedro_> Le-Chuck_ITA, confirmed, got the same with poppler version from git master, will send  that upstream
[17:46] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I did not want to repeat pedro, wanted the bot to pop up :)
[17:47] <Le-Chuck_ITA> pedro_: thank you
[17:47] <pedro_> Le-Chuck_ITA, np, thanks  for following up ;-)
[19:47] <Kamusin> I have a question, I saw a report that say about a synaptic problem in feisty and I can't reproduced in Jaunty. Actually is marked like confirmed (like two years ago) so what can I do, what status have to be marked?
[19:48] <jander99> What bug number is it Kamusin?
[19:48] <Kamusin> jander99,  bug number is 84423
[19:55] <jander99> You tried to reproduce this step by step and synaptic was able to gracefully reload the sources.list file in Jaunty?
[19:57] <yofel> bug 84423
[19:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 84423 in synaptic "[feisty] Synaptic closes when changing sources.list manually while synapitc is runing" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84423
[19:58] <Kamusin> jander99, that is correct sir, without any problems (and another friend too)
[19:59] <yofel> can't reproduce it in karmic either
[20:01] <yofel> Kamusin: should I close the bug or will you do it?
[20:01] <jander99> I went one step further and proved edit, reload also updates Synaptics repository list under Setting > Repositories
[20:02] <Kamusin> yofel,  I don't have superpowers for do it hehe
[20:02] <jander99> I'd say close with Fix Released, correct yofel?
[20:02] <yofel> I'll do it, mom
[20:02] <Kamusin> shall you yofel , :)
[20:03] <yofel> Kamusin: Note: you *can* edit the bug status by clicking on the arrow beside the package name ;)
[20:03] <jander99> yofel: I'm new here, would that be the proper response in this situation? Confirm the bug doesn't exist and mark Fix Released after leaving a comment stating said bug doesnt exist in current stable release?
[20:08] <Kamusin> yofel,  yep and  in the other hand is good know what status have to be marked for those reports ;)
[20:08] <yofel> jander99: actually I would rather use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Old%20untouched%20bugs in a newer bug. In *this* bug I think closing it would be better since feisty was EOLed and we have multiple people that can't reproduce the bug
[20:09] <micahg> yeah, fix released is only if we know a new ubuntu package was released to fix it
[20:11] <yofel> jander99: Kamusin: If you're new here, you should check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/KnowledgeBase
[20:12] <yofel> I found it really helpful
[20:16] <jander99> Thanks yofel. As micahg knows I've been going through old new bugs, and each one seems different
[20:16] <Kamusin> yofel, ;)
[20:16] <micahg> jander99: it took me 200-300 bugs to be comfortable and I still have questions on occasion
[20:30] <kakemann> micahg, Hi! I was browsing over some thunderbird bugs today, and saw your name in a couple, and I think I found an upstream bug for them. Can you take a look at them?
[20:31] <micahg> maybe in a little bit
[20:31] <micahg> you can leave them here and I'll look a little later
[20:32] <kakemann> sure, i'll just paste them here
[20:32]  * micahg is working right now...
[20:32] <kakemann> bug 320057 upstream https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450134
[20:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 320057 in thunderbird "Thunderbird hangs for 10secs when auto-completing address" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/320057
[20:32] <ubot4> Mozilla bug 450134 in Address Book "Investigate possible performance improvement for autocomplete by using the directory search facilities" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[20:33] <kakemann> bug 322256 upstream https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79130
[20:33] <ubot4> Mozilla bug 79130 in Networking: NNTP "Threads with an expired (or cancelled) message will show the unread thread indicator, even when all are read, and expired/cancelled message causes incorrect unread count of newsgroup" [Normal,Assigned]
[20:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 322256 in thunderbird "uncorrect unread count for news folders" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/322256
[20:33] <micahg> thanks kakemann
[20:33] <kakemann> np :)
[20:39] <yofel> anybody an idea what's going on with apports retracer? All karmic crashes I reported are tagged 'apport-failed-retrace' :/ just like bug 401882
[20:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 401882 in compiz "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/401882
[21:13] <micahg> yofel: I've seen some succeed
[21:13] <micahg> maybe not
[21:23] <jander99> Looking at bug 159100, hibernate doesnt conflict with acpi-support according to its Conflicts dependencies.
[21:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 159100 in hibernate "Remove from archive / Conflict with "acpi-support"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159100
[21:25] <micahg> right, that's the question jander99
[21:26] <jander99> booting up my VM to see what happens when I install it
[21:26] <micahg> jander99: this is more of a question for the package maintainer
[21:26] <micahg> you can find them and ping them if you want
[21:27] <jander99> Maintainer is listed as MOTU
[21:27] <jander99> Should I head over to #-motu and see what they think?
[21:27] <micahg> yes
[21:27] <micahg> but you can also see who does most of hte uplaods for the packages
[21:28] <micahg> all the maintainers should be set to motu
[21:28] <micahg> *most
[21:29] <jander99> looking at the version history in launchpad as well, for any clues
[21:45] <jander99> micahg: Here's another question your way.  What to do with a bug related to a now-unsupported architecture (PowerPC)
[22:15] <micahg> jander99: powerpc is community supported