[00:00] <Dedicated> Shujah: only 1 program, nothing to ocnfigure
[00:00] <Shujah> Dedicated, and the program is?
[00:00] <sn9_> Dre1: which driver are you using?
[00:00] <Dedicated> Shujah: totem-xine
[00:01] <troglobyte> is there a way to blow out my entire sound config and reconfigure for new hardware?
[00:01] <vaportrailnew123> i still cant get my second moniter to work as a second moniter
[00:01] <Dre1> sn9_: I don't know... looking in the restricted drivers I'm not seeing the bcmxx-fwcutter package I normally see in laptops with Broadcom cards.  I think the device isn't reading.
[00:01] <nael> hiptobecubic, I have to edit the xorg.conf file to use gsynaptics. Where can I find this file?
[00:01] <sn9_> Dre1: is your card a broadcom?
[00:02] <Dre1> sn9_: Yes, I checked by opening the darn thing up.
[00:02] <sn9_> nael: /etc/X11
[00:02] <hiptobecubic> nael, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:02] <vaportrailnew123> any suggestions as to how i can get my other screen to stop being a clone?
[00:02] <sn9_> Dre1: connect with wires, and sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[00:02] <Dre1> sn9_: Will do.
[00:03] <Shujah> Dedicated: sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer < then config totem and change it to gstramer backend
[00:03] <kiyiko> ok, so i boot into ubuntu, and sometimes it will not load the gui, or anyhting. it loads into something called busybox,
[00:03] <shamike> will i be able to install ubuntu on one computer then put the hard drive on another computer will it work?
[00:03] <trashguy> vaportrailnew123, i suggested google: ubuntu dual head
[00:03] <vaportrailnew123> i tried that
[00:03] <Shujah> Dedicated, gstreamer core package is not installed or there would have been two options in the config menu xine and gstreamer
[00:04] <vaportrailnew123> but that seems like it just makes it one big screen that spans two
[00:04] <trashguy> you could even click im feeling lucky
[00:04] <Dre1> sn9_: It has installed, what should I do now?
[00:04] <trashguy> vaportrailnew123, what are u trying to do?
[00:04] <vaportrailnew123> i need ubuntu to recognize that i have 2 moniters so i can use a certain program
[00:04] <sn9_> Dre1: it asked to download firmware, right?
[00:04] <Dre1> sn9_: Yes, and it insalled.  I enable it, right?
[00:04] <pan023432> firefox32 glitchy?
[00:04] <sn9_> Dre1: try
[00:05] <Dre1> sn9_: Will do!
[00:05] <pan023432> Segmentation fault?
[00:05] <vaportrailnew123> i have a program called lyricue that displays song lyrics on one screen as you select them on the other screen.
[00:05] <Nuke11> Do I have to install my camera driver because I got my camera working on camorama, I'm assuming my camera driver is already supported by ubuntu?
[00:05] <Shujah> Nuke11, webcam or digi cam?
[00:05] <trashguy> vaportrailnew123, haveyou tried system > pref > screen res
[00:05] <vaportrailnew123> yes
[00:05] <Dre1> Nuke11: if it works in a program its driver is installed.  Pretty sure of that.
[00:06] <vaportrailnew123> it keeps going back to clone screen even after i uncheck the clone option
[00:06] <vaportrailnew123> i even tried resetting
[00:06] <Nuke11> my camera is logitech
[00:06] <Dedicated> Shujah: i thought that it should run with gstreamer when using kaffein-gstreamer, but as i see it dont stop anymore, but playing since beginning with 1fps :>
[00:07] <Nuke11> If my logitech camera is worknig I'm assumnig it's installed
[00:07] <Dedicated> Shujah: but thanks, i now have a better start point to solve it :)
[00:07] <Shujah> np :)
[00:07] <pan023432> is there any way to see hidden files in konsole
[00:07] <vaportrailnew123> in the display manager, the other screen shows up as unkown.
[00:08] <vaportrailnew123> what/how do i get drivers so that ubuntu will recognize what kind of moniter it is
[00:08] <Dre1> sn9_: Thank you very much.  I didn't know that it wouldn't show up on the menu... doesn't the live CD ship the package...?
[00:08] <macrobad> pan023432: ls -a
[00:08] <sn9_> vaportrailnew123: typically, that happens out-of-the-box, but some monitors don't say
[00:08] <glitsj16> vaportrailnew123: if you have an nvidia card you can adjust settings to your xorg.conf for dual monitors with the nvidia-settings package ..
[00:09] <sn9_> Dre1: nope
[00:09] <pan023432> k thx
[00:09] <ltcabral> how does xmms2 work? i run xmms2 with alt+f2 and nothing happens!!
[00:09] <vaportrailnew123> would i automaticly have nvidia drivers installed?
[00:09] <Dre1> sn9_: It used to on Gutsy!  I know that for a FACT.  But thanks anyways.  Have a nice day!
[00:09] <trashguy> vaportrailnew123, negative
[00:09] <glitsj16> vaportrailnews123: what card do you have ?
[00:09] <Shujah> vaportrailnew123, depends try looking at restricted drivers
[00:09] <trashguy> it hsoul dof prompted
[00:09] <vaportrailnew123> already looked at the restricted
[00:09] <Voort> my 7.10 Ubuntu SERVER refuses to all me to upgrade it to 8.04, does someone have a minute to help me?
[00:10] <vaportrailnew123> im running on a laptop, and it has an onboard graphics card
[00:10] <vaportrailnew123> it is an intel-based chipset
[00:10] <glitsj16> vaportrailnew123: what does "lspci | grep VGA" show ?
[00:11] <Shujah> vaportrailnew123, terminal > glxinfo | grep direct
[00:11] <untraceable> i dont think my internal nic is recognized in ubuntu wat do i need to do
[00:11] <Guiri> glitsj16: that didn't quite work as planned. It tries to force the user to connect at https://domain.com:80/site/
[00:11] <Guiri> it's still through port 80 using those instructions, am I missing something?
[00:11] <sn9_> untraceable: ethernet, or wifi?
[00:11] <kkathman> is there anything I need to do special to get my ipod to mount in ubuntu Hardy ??
[00:11] <vaportrailnew123> direct rendering=yes
[00:12] <untraceable> its a wireless card but i think its both
[00:12] <kkathman> I plugged it into the USB and it seems "alive" but the system doesnt seem to know
[00:12] <billgoldberg> kkathman
[00:12] <Dasuraga> is there a way to just reinstall all sound drivers?
[00:12] <genii> Voort: Usually you would want to do: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core                      then issue: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[00:12] <billgoldberg> you'll need some special software
[00:12] <billgoldberg> in add/remove serach for ipdo
[00:12] <kkathman> billgoldberg,  ahh  ok
[00:12] <vaportrailnew123> where should i post my terminal info? i noticed people frown upon my copy-pasting it directly here
[00:12] <billgoldberg> *ipod
[00:12] <sn9_> kkathman: depends -- was it formatted for mac, or pc?
[00:13] <Voort> genii: sounds like a plan, I will try that...
[00:13] <Nubbie> !webcam
[00:13] <kkathman> sn9_,  hmm dunno ..I use it with my windows pc and itunes (used to)
[00:13] <untraceable> in backtrack its eth0 ath0 and wifi0
[00:13] <vaportrailnew123> kenny@kenny-laptop:~$ lspci | grep VGA
[00:13] <vaportrailnew123> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[00:13] <billgoldberg> I might note, that the newest ipods might not have support
[00:13] <glitsj16> Guiri: can you paste your relevant apache configs please, hard to tell just off the bat
[00:13] <billgoldberg> blame apple for that
[00:13] <Guiri> glitsj16: sure.
[00:13] <sn9_> kkathman: then "mounting" it is as simple as putting it in storage mode, but for itunes-like song management, install gtkpod
[00:14] <Synx_hm_> Anyone know if there is a workaround to get the Canon LIDE 600 series and the like working under linux/ubuntu?
[00:14] <vaportrailnew123> glitsj16: any idea what i should do?
[00:14] <Dasuraga> "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback."
[00:14] <glitsj16> vaportrailnew123: so you have an intel card, obviously what i refered to before using the nvidia-settings package isn't going to work in your situation sorry
[00:14] <Dasuraga> anybody know what that error means?
[00:14] <kkathman> sn9_,  ok, I'll try, but when I plug it into the USB nothing happens - seems like I remember in gutsy it just mounted automatically
[00:14] <kkathman> but I could be wrong
[00:14] <khin> woooo i just updated dapper to hardy and now totem actually can play stuff
[00:14] <khin> wooooooo
[00:14] <vaportrailnew123> glitsj16
[00:15] <nano__> I was moving a partition via gparted and the system just shutdown..?
[00:15] <glitsj16> vaportrailnew123: don't know the first thing bout intel chipsets
[00:15] <macrobad> vaportrailnew123: I've always thought that calling machine "Kenny" is a bad sign... Perhaps, I'm superstitious! :)
[00:15] <vaportrailnew123> lol
[00:15] <billgoldberg> vapor, I have an intel chipset
[00:15] <CoolFox> ello?
[00:15] <trashguy> intel sux
[00:15] <Voort> genii, it appears to be working.  I will let you know more soon.  Thanks!
[00:15] <billgoldberg> what do you need to know
[00:15] <billgoldberg>
[00:15] <trashguy> for graphics ;(
[00:15] <billgoldberg> ?
[00:15] <sn9_> untraceable: do you see eth0, ath0, and wifi0 in ubuntu, too?
[00:15] <vaportrailnew123> macro: its my first name
[00:15] <trashguy> they grief me so hard
[00:15] <libwilliam> cd irc.freenode.net
[00:15] <nano__> I have now rebooted, and everything seems normal, except the partition has not moved......does that mean everything is normal?
[00:15] <untraceable> no i see nothing
[00:15] <CoolFox> i need some help running skype on the 64-bit version of Hardy.
[00:15] <Guiri> glitsj16: this is the main. essentially I want all 80 traffic rewritten to *.443, https. http://paste.ubuntu.com/26321/
[00:15] <trashguy> vaportrailnew123, i only have th ebuiltin onbopard or else id help
[00:16] <Guiri> this is default, but when I enabled my ssl (a copy of default but with *.443, nothing happens
[00:16] <billgoldberg> coolfox, did you try the medibuntu repo?
[00:16] <WalloO> trashguy, intel work well....
[00:16] <glitsj16> Guiri: ok, give me a few minutes to go over those, i'll report back
[00:16] <CoolFox> the... the wha?
[00:16] <sn9_> macrobad: i know a machine named kenny for exactly that reason
[00:16] <vaportrailnew123> anyone know how to help me get my onboard intel video card thingy working?
[00:16] <Guiri> glitsj16: np thanks
[00:16] <mediclawren> does ubuntu have a server edition?
[00:16] <billgoldberg> google for medibuntu
[00:16] <WalloO> trashguy, haaa.. for graphics you are right... :)
[00:16] <genii> Voort: Yu're welcome
[00:16] <CoolFox> mediclawren, yeah, it does.
[00:16] <billgoldberg> install it on your system, and reinstall skype
[00:16] <macrobad> sn9_: Windows server? ^^
[00:16] <Gaming4JC> trashguy: I uninstalled everything in synaptic and am going to try running this script: http://oui.com.br/n/content.php?article.23
[00:16] <trashguy> couldnt convince my boss to let me put in an 8800
[00:16] <Gaming4JC> Looks awesome.
[00:17] <CoolFox> um... i don't really want to re-install.
[00:17] <mediclawren> please coolfox does it have any differences with the desktop ed?
[00:17] <WalloO> trashguy, by the way, I'm interrested in knowing what their future video chip will be (multy x86 core)... that sound strange...
[00:17] <sn9_> macrobad: no, linux reinstallation testbed
[00:17] <ltcabral> can someone help me with audacious? i open a music but it doesnt play
[00:17] <nano__> I was moving a partition via gparted, and all of a sudden my system just shutdown.  Now, I have restarted and it seems that everything is normal except that the partition has not moved.  Should I reinstall system?
[00:17] <CoolFox> yeah, no graphics front end built in, and its a bit more robust mediclawren
[00:17] <billgoldberg> coolfox, well, that's all I can suugest
[00:17] <sttng359> Hello, I am having problems with ldapsearch and SSL.
[00:18] <sttng359> It says can't contact LDAP server
[00:18] <billgoldberg> just try it, it should only take 1 minutre
[00:18] <billgoldberg> *minute
[00:18] <sn9_> macrobad: the system dies every time, because it gets wiped
[00:18] <mediclawren> yeah man thanks a lot
[00:18] <mediclawren> please another question
[00:18] <sttng359> LDAP server is running on a Fedora Core computer and a seperate fedora core workstation can authenticate with and without SSL.
[00:18] <billgoldberg> I'm off
[00:18] <billgoldberg> bye
[00:18] <sttng359> ldapsearch on ubuntu can only authenticate without SSL and can't connect with SSL.
[00:19] <mediclawren> i installed ubuntu guess what made me uninst?
[00:19] <kkathman> sn9_,  yeah that doesnt seem to work :(
[00:19] <Shujah> ltcabral, audacious does not support pulseaudio change the default sound server to alsa it'll work then
[00:19] <kiyiko> when i try to boot ubuntu, it goes to busybox, and repeats something about how it cannot move cooling device. any ideas?
[00:19] <vaportrailnew123> should i be trying to modify the bios of my video card???
[00:19] <macrobad> sn9_: Yeah, it's all in the name! :)
[00:19] <CoolFox> so, my problem is when i try to compile skype from source, it says i'm using the wrong version, but there isn't any other version to comple from!
[00:19] <kiyiko> i am unable to boot into the os
[00:19] <kkathman> sn9_,  when you said putting it in "storage" mode..what did you mean?
[00:19] <CoolFox> it says i need to use a 64 bit version, but there doesn't appear to be one.
[00:19] <epitron> is there a way that i can get apt-get's dependency system think that mplayer is installed, without installing its own mplayer package?
[00:20] <sn9_> kkathman: whatever you do to make it appear like an external drive
[00:20] <mediclawren> yeah there is no 64 bit v 4 it
[00:20] <ltcabral> Shujah, thanks
[00:20] <epitron> (i've got a nice mplayer SVN build that i prefer)
[00:20] <Jaco> Hola
[00:20] <Jaco> Alguien me ayuda
[00:20] <Jaco> Jeje
[00:20] <sn9_> !es | Jaco
[00:20] <kkathman> sn9_,  well currently all I've done is plug it into the USB - the Ipod lights up...but the system knows nothing about it that I can tell
[00:20] <CoolFox> so, mediclawren, am i humped?
[00:21] <Jaco> Si
[00:21] <Jaco> Soy jaco
[00:21] <CoolFox> soy sauce?
[00:21] <vaportrailnew123> arg! me need intel chipset support! trying to get two screens to work independantly
[00:21] <mediclawren> yeah man
[00:21] <WalloO> kkathman, your ipod is probably not in fat32.
[00:21] <nano__> Is it common for gparted live cd to just shutdown the system?
[00:21] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm a little rusty... why would my network settings need a DNS server for <IP_ADDRESS> for my router? or is that like... everything goes through that address?
[00:21] <mouseboyx> How do you mount a cardreader?
[00:21] <CoolFox> g'damn this channel moves fast.
[00:21] <mediclawren> but presto ubuntu has a 64 bit ver
[00:22] <Voort> nah, CoolFox you just read slow ;-)
[00:22] <kkathman> WalloO, wellm if that was the case I'd probably get a message that it cant be mounted
[00:22] <CoolFox> are you calling wikipedians slow?
[00:22] <CoolFox> :)
[00:22] <Chaotic_Descent> there's no settings... it's just an IP address... is it going in, coming out? I can't figure this out.
[00:22] <kkathman> but Im not getting even that
[00:22] <mediclawren> i guess u cant change os because of just one app
[00:22] <erUSUL> Chaotic_Descent: maybe your router has a caching dns proxy
[00:22] <sn9_> CoolFox: soy == "i'm"
[00:22] <untraceable> anyone know why my atheros internal nic isnt recognized
[00:22] <CoolFox> thats the channel that i'm comparing for basis.
[00:22] <WalloO> kkathman, you should format the main partition as fat32. Simplest way is to plug it on a PC with itune, it should ask you to convert it or something like that
[00:22] <CoolFox> sn9_, thnks.
[00:22] <cee> Anyone got kiba-dock to run smoothly yet?
[00:22] <hiptobecubic> i have internet access just fine except for aol in pidgin. When i tell pidgin to use a proxy for the protocol, it works. when i tell it to use gnome settings (which are clearly working just fine) it says that it can't resolve the host name
[00:22] <glitsj16> Guiri: check if this works any better .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/26323/
[00:22] <Chaotic_Descent> erUSUL: no, it's an Ubuntu setting, not a router setting. I can't connect to my router.
[00:23] <mouseboyx> What is the dameon that automounts usb devices in gnome?
[00:23] <WalloO> kkathman, not really, since the partition format may be unknown. Try fdisk -l
[00:23] <kkathman> ok
[00:23] <sttng359> Anyone have an idea why ldapsearch and friends don't appear to be able to use SSL/TLS?
[00:23] <CoolFox> hey, what's that other fdisk program, slackware has it too.
[00:23] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, chnage the dns to <IP_ADDRESS> (i,e, local host) put the router on roaming mode and check
[00:23] <sn9_> WalloO: he said he used it in windows, so it must be known
[00:23] <Chaotic_Descent> and I don't even know what a caching DNS proxy is...
[00:23] <WalloO> sn9_, you're right
[00:23] <Simulous> hey if i set up ubuntu server as a VM can i use something on it as a gateway to enable to me manage network traffic from certain hosts on my network. or any apps i could install on my ubuntu desktop machine to do the same thing? thanks
[00:23] <WalloO> kkathman, try sudo fdisk -l
[00:24] <kkathman> WalloO,  nope its not listed
[00:24] <kkathman> my other drives are tho
[00:24] <Chaotic_Descent> <IP_ADDRESS>... I'll try that. I'll be back when I can break and fix my internet again...
[00:24] <sn9_> WalloO: by any chance, did you plug it into a usb hub?
[00:24] <WalloO> kkathman, ha... that'S sound very strange. I have a last generation nano and it works perfectely
[00:24] <unop> kkathman, does dmesg have anything to say about it?
[00:24] <sn9_> kkathman: by any chance, did you plug it into a usb hub?
[00:24] <Simulous> sorry to just dive in and ask
[00:25] <kkathman> sn9_,  no no its a usb on the back of my computer
[00:25] <kkathman> sn9_,  the unit was getting REALLY hot thought - that seems a bit abnormal
[00:25] <vaportrailnew123> so, anyone know how to get an intel chipset laptop to be able to use two displays independantly?
[00:25] <sn9_> kkathman: does it show up in lsusb?
[00:25] <Shujah> vaportrailnew123, dude you got nvidia
[00:25] <kkathman> lemme see
[00:26] <nickr-> i have a partition question
[00:26] <Shujah> vaportrailnew123, have you installed nvidia-setting manager?
[00:26] <mediclawren> vaportrailnew123 wchich os r u running
[00:26] <unop> vaportrailnew123, have you seen the !dualhead wiki?
[00:26] <vaportrailnew123> tell me how shu
[00:26] <nano__> should the md5sum of an iso on dvd and an iso file on my /home be the same?
[00:26] <vaportrailnew123> dualhead wont work for what im doing
[00:26] <unop> nano_, yes
[00:26] <nickr-> i have a 500g HDD, how much should i put on my swap and boot partitions???
[00:26] <kkathman> sn9_,  nope the only thing thats showing on lssub is the trackball
[00:26] <unop> nano_, if they were meant to be the same file i.e.
[00:26] <Shujah> vaportrailnew123, via synaptic download nvidia setting manager
[00:27] <mouseboyx> what is the command to run the gnome automounter in gnome-volume manager?
[00:27] <WalloO> vaportrailnew123, you mean dual screen to have a large desktop? If yes, I can't help you since I never tested it... But it may be difficult.... With nvidia and ati, this functionnality is mostly provided by proprietary drivers
[00:27] <vaportrailnew123> k, thankies
[00:27] <nickr-> i have 60,000 cylinders
[00:27] <sn9_> kkathman: then you've got bigger problems
[00:27] <unop> kkathman,  dmesg | tail -n 30 # see if anything is said about your ipod or usb devices
[00:27] <CoolFox> in a truck?
[00:27] <nickr-> no, lol
[00:27] <Guiri> glitsj16: thank you. it appears to be working if you browse to the domain that was int eh pastebine. However nothing shows up. I assume I need to copy the default and name it ssl, enable it, and change the port to 443?
[00:27] <epimeth> anybody here frequent #kubuntu?
[00:27] <kkathman> unop ok 1 sec
[00:27] <CoolFox> lol.
[00:27] <sn9_> kkathman: what unop said
[00:27] <Guiri> and also take out the rewrite rule glitsj16 ?
[00:27] <nickr-> can u help me fox
[00:27] <CoolFox> maybe
[00:27] <nickr-> i have 60k cylinders to put into 3 partitinos
[00:27] <WalloO> nickr-, put as much swap as your memory, or two times more. However, if you hae 4Gb of ram, swap is nearly useless... :)
[00:27] <nickr-> partitions
[00:27] <CoolFox> hang on, lemme read the thread
[00:28] <unop> kkathman, actually, unplug and plug it back in and run that command
[00:28] <vaportrailnew123> im trying to use a program that requires the system to be able to recognize a second display
[00:28] <glitsj16> Guiri: yes copy the default indeed and only use the new rewriterule
[00:28] <maconga> Is is possible to downgrade the Linux Kernal in Xubuntu 8.04.1 ?
[00:28] <unop> !dualhead | vaportrailnew123
[00:28] <CoolFox> for swap, i'd reccomend 2 times the ammount of RAM you got.
[00:28] <vaportrailnew123> i know, dualhead WONT WORK!!!
[00:28] <CoolFox> for boot, everything else, unless you want your home folder separte too.
[00:28] <nickr-> i have 3gigs of ram
[00:28] <nano__> has anybody here ever had gparted just shutdown on them?
[00:28] <CoolFox> eiyah!
[00:28] <Guiri> glitsj16: let me make sure I understand, copy everything in the default and delete the section in it about the rewrite since the 80 already rewrites? I'm sorry for this but I'm new
[00:28] <CoolFox> 3 gigs?
[00:28] <vaportrailnew123> it makes it think theres 1 big screen, where i need it to recognize that there are two
[00:29] <CoolFox> fine, 6 GB partition.
[00:29] <genii> maconga: Yes, just remove the one you don't want in the package manager and it will default back to the last one
[00:29] <Shujah> CoolFox, thats when ram is 1 gb or less, if one has 2 gb ram formula changes to ram = swap
[00:29] <glitsj16> maconga: it's possible;, but why not make a lower one default in GRUb ?
[00:29] <unop> CoolFox, that's for something under 512MB -- you rarely will use 2X RAM for swap if you have anything more than that
[00:29] <epimeth> more specifically, can anyone here unban me from #kubuntu and #kubuntu-offtopic?  I've been having connection issues so they are forwarding me to ##fix_your_connection
[00:29] <sn9_> vaportrailnew123: you mean cloning?
[00:29] <WalloO> CoolFox, 2times is good, but for me, I never use more than 20% of my ram... Swap is useless in my case... :)
[00:29] <glitsj16> Guiri: hang on, i'll join you in pm to make sure there's no misunderstabndings about the paste ok
[00:29] <nickrud> epimeth, /j #ubuntu-ops
[00:30] <nixnoob> why cant i have more than 1 desktop workspace on compiz?
[00:30] <unop> WalloO, you don't hibernate? :)
[00:30] <WalloO> CoolFox, the more you have ram, the less you need swap
[00:30] <vaportrailnew123> i dont want cloning, and that dual program wont work for what im doing
[00:30] <kkathman> !pastebin
[00:30] <epimeth> nickrud: cheers
[00:30] <maconga> The Kernal in 8.04 does not like my wifi card, but a kernal in 7.10 will use it.... I can't downgrade to 7.10 because I have to use Wubi
[00:30] <Simulous> anyone know off an app i can use with ubuntu to act as a gateway to enable me to manage traffic from certain hosts?
[00:30] <Chaotic_Descent> Ok, DNS <IP_ADDRESS> didn't do anything.
[00:30] <CoolFox> well, its not gonna kill to have a 6 gig swap, right?
[00:30] <CoolFox> :)
[00:30] <mediclawren> my sound cant just work
[00:30] <Shujah> nixnoob, you must have configured compiz to use one
[00:30] <kkathman> sn9_,   see paste:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/26325/
[00:30] <unop> Simulous, manage traffic in what way exactly?
[00:30] <WalloO> unop, no. I never be able to hibernate with my system. But hibernating 4GB of ram may take to much time... :)
[00:31] <nano__> man gparted sucks
[00:31] <Chaotic_Descent> why does the pppoeconf put in two DNS servers? is one incoming and one outgoing or something? I still don't understand what a single IP address has to do with DNS servers.
[00:31] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, restart networking and dont forget to put the connection on roaming mode
[00:31] <sn9_> maconga: which card?
[00:31] <xTheGoat121x> Afternoon everyone
[00:31] <unop> WalloO, it shouldn't if you set the swappiness of your kernel right :)
[00:31] <xTheGoat121x> It seems like both my panels and my menus are larger than they were on Gutsy
[00:31] <maconga> sn9_: Linksys Wrt54g Version 4.1
[00:31] <Simulous> to share bandwith evenly :o) my router doesnt go as far as throttling bandwidth
[00:31] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, you using dsl or dial up?
[00:31] <HymnToLife> Chaotic_Descent: you have two DNS servers so you can still browse the Web if one breaks
[00:31] <trashguy> WalloO, i hibernate 4gb ram, but i got a raid 0 setup
[00:31] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: my network settings are set to roaming all the time to begin with. I can't change the router's settings since I can't connect to it. I've been resetting network settings with every damned Ubuntu command I know of.
[00:32] <sn9_> maconga: no, the wifi in your computer
[00:32] <WalloO> unop, ha... I'm not used to hibernating with linux
[00:32] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: DSL
[00:32] <Dewente> hello every one
[00:32] <Shujah> yup one is primary dns and other is secondary if primary is unaccessible system will switch to secndary
[00:32] <Dewente> hello
[00:32] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, wireless or wired?
[00:32] <maconga> sn9_:that is the card in the computer
[00:32] <nixnoob> how can I make an application always start on a particular workspace?
[00:32] <Simulous> its a shared connection on a GB switch, attached to that a router > cable modem. 3 ppl share the connection and one of those doesnt seem to be able to stop hammering my connection so i want to divide it evenly
[00:32] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: wired.
[00:32] <Dewente> i have a question
[00:33] <Dewente> please
[00:33] <WalloO> trashguy, I can't hibernate.... Not enough swap... :(
[00:33] <sn9_> maconga: wrt54g is a router
[00:33] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, can you see network config icon in ntification place?
[00:33] <Dewente> hi
[00:33] <Dewente> hi
[00:33] <Dewente> hi
[00:33] <chriswr> does anyone know any cool looking stuff for my desktop?
[00:33] <trashguy> Simulous, what kind of router/
[00:33] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm so glad that lately I've been able to reconnect to the internet without having to reboot or spend an hour fiddling with settings..
[00:33] <sn9_> maconga: do you mean wpc54g?
[00:33] <kkathman> sn9_,  if you check that post - Im not sure I see anything odd - except that line 37
[00:33] <WalloO> maconga, and a good router when loaded with ddwrt... :)
[00:33] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: what is that?
[00:33] <unop> kkathman, does this give you anything?   sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc1
[00:33] <Pici> !ask | Dewente
[00:34] <Dewente> how can i active root at ubuntu server ?
[00:34] <Penopticon> chriswr: Go to  Gnome-look.org.
[00:34] <Shujah> thats an icon with two small computers can you see one in panel notification area
[00:34] <maconga> sn9_: let me check my...
[00:34] <Simulous> linksys wrt54G i did change the OS on it but didnt have desired effects :( .
[00:34] <skrag> so i have hardy and i love it accept i usualy wait till theres a bunch of updates before i download them and everytime i seem to update it, it adds 2 entrys to my grub menu.... it ads just a repeat of what it had before so i have like 3 entrys for ubuntu and 3 entrys for safe mode... anyone know why it might be adding itself to my grub over and over?
[00:34] <sn9_> !RootSudo | Dewente
[00:34] <kkathman> unop no, nothing
[00:34] <chriswr> penopticon: ok will do that  , thnx
[00:34] <unop> skrag, those are entries for different kernels -- it's normal
[00:34] <Dewente> rootsudo | dewente ?
[00:35] <WalloO> Simulous, I loaded mine with ddwrt and it works very well. I have v8
[00:35] <Simulous> + it would be easyer and better to set up a virtual machine on my server
[00:35] <kkathman> unop heres the  pastebin on what you asked for  http://paste.ubuntu.com/26325/
[00:35] <xTheGoat121x> Has anyone noticed that Hardy's interface looks bigger than Gutsy's?
[00:35] <unop> skrag, and they shouldn't be the same -- you'll notice that each kernel has a different version number
[00:35] <unop> it appears to me that your device is being detected but is disconnected after it settles down - it doesn;t say why -- this might suggest that the ipod has problems -- try rebooting your ipod with it plugged into the computer
[00:35] <unop> kkathman, ^^
[00:35] <skrag> unop thanks, so i have to go into grub and delete the ones i dont want?
[00:35] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: right click or left click? left click I get only "manual configuration"
[00:35] <jamus> anybody knows  how i can modify this ariticle to work   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789824
[00:35] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, right click and open
[00:36] <Dewente> sudoroot | dewente ?
[00:36] <Simulous> yeah mine too :) i think it didnt work because of the version :) it was a while ago, then all i wanted was a bigger port forwarding table cus the provided one is uselessly small!
[00:36] <Simulous> :P
[00:36] <unop> skrag, no, just remove the older kernels from synaptic -- but i suggest you keep atleast one working older kernel installed just incase you run into problems with the new current one
[00:36] <Shujah> sorry left click and open manual confguration
[00:36] <Simulous> version of router i mean*
[00:36] <kkathman> unop - lol reboot the ipod ??
[00:36] <jamus> i need Atheros AR5007 driver pls
[00:36] <vaportrailnew123> is there a task-manager-like program that i can use in linux? such as a gui ver of terminal specifically used to looking at/closing current tasks?
[00:36] <sn9_> kkathman: something is wrong with your ipod hardware
[00:36] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: right click gives me "enable networking", a greyed out "connection information", "edit wireless networks", and "about".
[00:36] <Dewente> jamus i guees i can help you
[00:36] <unop> kkathman, press Menu and the center button, and hold down for about 4 seconds
[00:37] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, left click open the manual setting menu and unlock it
[00:37] <kkathman> ahh ok
[00:37] <skrag> unop is it really worth it to get the newest kernel what do you think? do you get every one?
[00:37] <sn9_> jamus: google it
[00:37] <Dewente> give 1 minute for looking a web with that  jamus
[00:37] <unop> kkathman, that's how i reboot my ipod classic -- should work on the newer nanos and probably other ipods too
[00:37] <jamus> Dewente:  i would rely lik that u do
[00:37] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: oh yeah. where I change the DNS settings. ok.
[00:37] <xtknight> vaportrailnew123, gnome-system-monitor
[00:37] <Penopticon> vaportrailnew123: Try pushing Crtl and Esc at the same time and wait for the window to come up.
[00:37] <unop> skrag, i don't usually upgrade kernels very often, unless i am forced too because of hardware issues or package dependencies
[00:38] <jamus> Dewente:  im stuck on it for several days now
[00:38] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, now you'll see a wired connection line click it and open its properties
[00:38] <vaportrailnew123> how do i start a program with a dif prog as root?
[00:38] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: and then what?
[00:38] <maconga> sn9_: This is my wifi card, WMP54G Version 4.1
[00:38] <unop> skrag, but it shouldn't be a problem installing the newer kernels -- if you do install one, make sure you have an older one as failover
[00:38] <pan023432> how do u unzip a file in linux
[00:38] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: because it's in roaming mode.
[00:38] <unop> pan023432, use unzip :)
[00:38] <sn9_> maconga: ok, checking...
[00:38] <xTheGoat121x> Is there a way to make panels smaller than 23 pixels?
[00:38] <pan023432> k
[00:38] <pan023432> thx
[00:38] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, now are the addresses filled, ip, gateway etc
[00:38] <skrag> thanks for the facts unop you guys in here always know your shit
[00:39] <kkathman> unop  well I keep getting that No battery power remains - please hook the ipod to power - maybe thats part of the problem
[00:39] <unop> pan023432, you might need to install unzip tho
[00:39] <pan023432> is there any way to tar a file to a certain directory
[00:39] <Pici> Dewente: Floodbot1 is not a person
[00:39] <pan023432> if downloaded tar file to desktop?
[00:39] <kkathman> ahh its not saying that now
[00:39] <vaportrailnew123> how do i make a shortcut for an application so i can place it on the quickstart bar?
[00:39] <pan023432> but want to send it to /usr/share/fluxbox/styles
[00:39] <Penopticon> pan023432: you should be able to just double click in Ubuntu.
[00:39] <unop> kkathman, errm, that could very well be the problem -- charge it up for a bit, if you have an external power suplly
[00:39] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: no. but right now I'm connected to the internet, not my router. (although you'd think I'd have an IP for the internet. I'm sure I do, but there's nothing in the greyed out areas)
[00:39] <legend2440> xTheGoat121x: yes.  right click panel>properties>size
[00:39] <Dewente> Pici ?
[00:39] <pan023432> click and d rag?
[00:39] <pan023432> k
[00:40] <kkathman> ok
[00:40] <Myrtti> Dewente: it's a bot
[00:40] <jin_> what is the app called to install a .emerald theme file?
[00:40] <Pici> Dewente: Its a bot, a program that manages the channel.
[00:40] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, how do you access your router > <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:40] <Dewente> excuse toy day is my first
[00:40] <xTheGoat121x> legend2440, yeah, but the system doesn't allow going smaller then 23 pxels
[00:40] <Dewente> today
[00:40] <LimCore> hi
[00:40] <untraceable-> does ubuntu support atheros ar5006x
[00:40] <unop> pan023432, sudo tar xvf file.tar -C /usr/share/fluxbox/styles
[00:41] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: .1.1
[00:41] <pan023432> - c is for?
[00:41] <sn9_> maconga: install the pkgs linux-ubuntu-modules and linux-backports-modules-hardy
[00:41] <LimCore> ubuntu's network stoped working suddently. probably after upgrade. 8.04.  DHCP modem on eth0, now  dhclient doesnt see it.  How to fix/debug?
[00:41] <facade> http://www.facade.tk
[00:41] <legend2440> xTheGoat121x: yea your right i never noticed that before
[00:41] <facade> http://www.facade.tk
[00:41] <unop> pan023432, but i highly doubt it's an uncompressed tar file -- it probably is a .tar.gz or a .tar.bz2 compressed archive
[00:41] <facade> http://www.facade.tk
[00:41] <FloodBot2> facade: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:41] <facade> http://www.facade.tk
[00:41] <Dewente> jamus ?
[00:41] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, untick roaming mode, change the tab to static ip
[00:41] <unop> pan023432, -C extracts the files to the specified folder
[00:41] <Dewente> Dewente
[00:41] <pan023432> oh i c
[00:41] <sn9_> untraceable-: 5006, yes, 5007, no, but some 5007's appear as 5006
[00:41] <pan023432> that helps
[00:41] <kkathman> unop , WallO  thanks - am charging it right now...will try again later... your help is much appreciated!
[00:41] <pan023432> a lot
[00:41] <pan023432> i've been taring to desktop
[00:41] <pan023432> then moving file
[00:41] <FloodBot2> pan023432: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:42] <vaportrailnew123> how do i start a program with a differnt program as a root
[00:42] <jamus> Dewente:  ime her
[00:42] <unop> kkathman, yw, i hope you resolve your issue - fingers crossed
[00:42] <unop> vaportrailnew123, sudo command
[00:42] <maconga> sn9_:would those be on the Xubuntu 8.04.1 install disk ?
[00:42] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, give ip address as <IP_ADDRESS>, subnet mask <IP_ADDRESS> & gateway as <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:42] <peridot> Hi, I'm trying to debug an X crash, but gdb seems to hang when I try to attach to the (hung) Xorg process; any suggestions?
[00:42] <pan023432> thx unop
[00:42] <untraceable-> Sn9_: im having troubles getting that card recognized
[00:42] <Dewente>  i got the resource that can be helpful
[00:42] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: alright. bbiab.
[00:42] <pan023432> learned something
[00:42] <sn9_> maconga: you will likely need to connect with wires for that
[00:42] <smay> Hi, using apt-get won't download the wireless driver I need, here's the error... am I getting something wrong?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/26331/
[00:43] <maconga> sn9_ alright. Thank You.
[00:43] <unop> pan023432, you will need to get used to the terminal if you are planning on moving to fluxbox (or already have)
[00:43] <unop> :)
[00:43] <vaportrailnew123> so, for instnace if i want to start nvidia-settings with nvidia-xconfig as root what would it look like in terminal
[00:43] <chriswr> can anyone tell me what kind of desktop screenlet this guy has on the bottome right side of his desktop?   http://youtube.com/watch?v=JW2z7JkYPEk
[00:43] <pan023432> well i want to get used to the terminal
[00:43] <sn9_> untraceable-: then it is probably a 5007
[00:43] <Dewente> pici ?
[00:43] <untraceable-> windows shows it as a 5006
[00:43] <xTheGoat121x> legend2440, I just read something online... if you change the application font, you can go smaller... but now, my icons up there don't resize far enough... or they resize too far.
[00:43] <sn9_> untraceable-: as i said, some 5007's appear as 5006
[00:43] <unop> pan023432, as long as you have the patience, that comes automatically
[00:44] <Pici> Dewente: Can I help you?
[00:44] <epaepa> smay, there is no package called like that in repositories
[00:44] <pan023432> ^^
[00:44] <legend2440> xTheGoat121x: yes i was just reading the same thing
[00:44] <CoolFox> hey, anybody know how to switch to KDE from GNOME?
[00:44] <pan023432> seems like the --help command helps a lot
[00:44] <epaepa> smay, try using synaptic
[00:44] <CoolFox> i just installed the packages
[00:44] <vaportrailnew123> so, for instnace if i want to start nvidia-settings with nvidia-xconfig as root what would it look like in terminal
[00:44] <unop> !info b43-fwcutter | smay
[00:44] <Dewente> how can i send red message ?
[00:44] <sn9_> maconga: your wifi chipset is rt2500, btw
[00:44] <chriswr> can anyone tell me what kind of desktop screenlet this guy has on the bottome right side of his desktop?   http://youtube.com/watch?v=JW2z7JkYPEk
[00:44] <Penopticon> CoolFox: Log out and choose session.
[00:45] <epaepa> CoolFox, logout and start new session with kde from GDM
[00:45] <Pici> Dewente: You can't.  Thats just a feature of your irc client when someone uses your name.
[00:45] <maconga> sn9_:alright Thank You
[00:45] <smay> epaepa: I just did that on another computer though, same package and everything.  unop: That doesn't help me...
[00:45] <untraceable-> Sn9_: so its a no go in ubuntu, nothing i can do?
[00:45] <unop> pan023432, also the man pages -- they are generally more helpful/informative than --help messages
[00:45] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: thanks. that worked.
[00:45] <pan023432> ah
[00:45] <Dewente> PIci: ok
[00:45] <unop> smay, looks like you haven't enabled all the ubuntu repositories
[00:45] <epaepa> smay, check repositories setup in the other computer and copy them to the other one
[00:45] <Shujah> np :)
[00:45] <sn9_> untraceable-: there is something you can do, but it's very involved, and nobody here is going to type that much. google it
[00:45] <Chaotic_Descent_> How come roaming didn't work with my router?
[00:46] <smay> unop: The third-party ones in the software sources aren't checked off, is that it?
[00:46] <unop> smay, no, it's not the third party repos -- it's the ubuntu main one
[00:46] <epaepa> smay, u have some repositories problem, solve it
[00:46] <Dewente> give an example buddy
[00:46] <unop> smay, if you see all of them checked, use the pastebin and show us the contents of this file.   /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:47] <DIL> i just had a jonny come lately episode as i am a relative newb - i could not connect to my windows share using samba - in trying to find a cure one of the steps i took was to add my network name to the domain box under System -Network then click the general tab - hpoe it helps
[00:47] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, make sure you port forward (if you need to) on your static ip address and that the static ip address is beyond the DHCP allocation
[00:47] <skrag> unop so im in synaptic and i cant seem to fund whate exactaly to delete to get run of the old kernels and/or grub entrys
[00:47] <smay> unop: Enabling the third-party repositories fixed the problem.  Thanks for making me check anyways!
[00:47] <untraceable-> thx sn9_
[00:47] <skrag> rid*
[00:47] <Chaotic_Descent_> port forward?
[00:47] <Dewente> pici
[00:48] <Pici> Dewente: yes?
[00:48] <unop> smay, eh? shouldn't be the right fix .. well  anyway :)
[00:48] <smay> unop: Life
[00:48] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, and change the DNS to one provided by ISP.
[00:48] <smay> unop: Oops.. Meant to say Life
[00:48] <smay> OMG!
[00:48] <smay> unop: Please ignore me, life is silly
[00:48] <unop> smay, i'm missing something :)
[00:48] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: it keeps inserting the DNS it wants me to have. where do I set this port forwarding?
[00:48] <Sergeant_Pony> is there any way to have my laptop hd not spin down due to idle time?
[00:48] <reviver> Hi, I'm new to ubuntu/linux and had a pretty noob question.  I'm using 8.04 on a headless box and using rdesktop with autologin.  Since there's no monitor attached when the box powers up, X automatically puts the resolution to 640x480 on CRT-0.  Is there a way to make it always use 1280x1024?
[00:48] <CoolFox> Penopticon, epaepa, how?
[00:49] <offset> Does anyone know how to blacklist a module when trying to boot from the livecd?  Ubuntu keep sstalling with "[ #####.##] ohci1394: fw-host0: physical posted write error".
[00:49] <acid2_> is there anyway I can install postgresql 8.2 through apt? apt-get install postgresql gives 8.3.3
[00:49] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, yes most p2p softwares *torrent and *wire need port forwarding to work properly
[00:49] <epaepa> CoolFox, how do u do what?
[00:49] <sn9_> reviver: yes, by editing xorg.conf
[00:49] <unop> acid2_, sudo aptitude install postgresql=8.2
[00:49] <nwc> freespire??
[00:49] <CoolFox> get into kde from gnome
[00:49] <epaepa> CoolFox, go to system
[00:49] <epaepa> exit
[00:49] <epaepa> close session
[00:49] <unop> acid2_, but postgresql 8.2 must be in the repos tho for this to work
[00:49] <Shujah> go to the same config window select the dns tab delete the last one and manually add 2 dns addresses your isp has provided
[00:49] <LimCore> network stoped working suddenly.  wtf?
[00:50] <geometrical> hmm whats a good tool to convert flac to mp3  ?
[00:50] <nwc> i'm haveing nvidia problems with freespire
[00:50] <acid2_> unop: thanks, I'll try that - should I remove 8.3.3 first?
[00:50] <sn9_> geometrical: lame
[00:50] <epaepa> and in the gdm where u write ur user name and pass there is an opion called session, click there and select kde
[00:50] <unop> geometrical, ffmpeg
[00:50] <acid2_> geometrical: flac and then lame
[00:50] <Penopticon> CoolFox:  Pushing Control and Escape at the same time should bring up the task manager.
[00:50] <slavik> how do I get sound input to be echoed to the speakers? (there is no hardware mixing on my sound card which is a cmi8788)
[00:50] <CoolFox> AH!
[00:50] <CoolFox> there we go.
[00:50] <unop> acid2_, you shouldn't need to -- aptitude will do that for you anyway
[00:50] <xTheGoat121x> legend2440, I figured it out
[00:50] <acid2_> unop: cool cool, I'll try it - thanks
[00:50] <unop> acid2_, err, aptitude _should_ do that ..
[00:50] <LimCore> does ubuntu support network?
[00:51] <Pici> LimCore: What kind of question is that?
[00:51] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: there are only two listings, both created by connecting to my DSL modem, I think... they don't provide me with one in the documentation.
[00:51] <acid2_> unop: and is there anyway to get a version listing of what versions are in the repo?
[00:51] <unop> LimCore, yes -- as you can see, we are all on irc being on ubuntu :)
[00:51] <galshawna> Can anyone help me with my Java plugin problem in FF3?
[00:51] <sn9_> LimCore: do bees buzz?
[00:51] <xTheGoat121x> legend2440, there's a bug in gnome-panel that's not allowing the main menu icon to resize with everything else, thus locking the icon at a specific size.
[00:51] <LimCore> Pici: more general then my precise support question
[00:51] <Nubbie> hi everybody, i'm having trouble getting my webcam to work. i have a creative live! cam notebook pro. I installed and loaded the kernel modules needed, yet it isn't working.
[00:51] <CoolFox> lol @ unop
[00:51] <Pici> LimCore: You should know better.
[00:51] <LimCore> sn9_: they do
[00:51] <LimCore> ok then, so
[00:51] <LimCore> network stoped working suddenly
[00:51] <LimCore> how to fix it
[00:51] <unop> acid2_, sudo aptitude update && dpkg -l | grep postgresql
[00:51] <maconga> galshawna: what kind of problem?
[00:51] <acid2_> cheers mate
[00:52] <LimCore> it seems like software problem ; also network manager something application crashes
[00:52] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, DNS can be in thsi format 192.??.???.?? or <IP_ADDRESS> if the DNS is different then these values then its ok
[00:52] <Shujah> *DNS cannot be
[00:52] <LimCore> arp -a  shows the router,  but dhclient doesnt obtain IP fromit
[00:52] <LimCore> Pici: ^
[00:52] <Pici> LimCore: How are you connecting to the network?
[00:52] <galshawna> maconga, ever since I upgraded to 8.04, and Firefox 3.0, certan java-run applications don't work, like pool at games.yahoo.com.
[00:52] <LimCore> Pici:  pc -eth- modem
[00:52] <Pici> LimCore: wired?
[00:52] <galshawna> maconga, a lot of games cannot work. And not just that but anything that uses java.
[00:52] <LimCore> Pici: yes
[00:52] <sn9_> galshawna: that's because it now uses openjdk instead of ssun java
[00:52] <sn9_> *sun
[00:52] <galshawna> maconga, every time it says to install missing plugins, but it can never find suitable plugins.
[00:53] <galshawna> sn9_, openjdk?
[00:53] <maconga> galshawana: sudo apt-get install java-6-plugin     (I think that will work)
[00:53] <galshawna> maconga, I think I've already done that.
[00:53] <Penopticon> Firefox 3.0 Try downloading FooBillard from the repository.
[00:53] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: they are. they're like 207. addresses. also found port forwarding settings in my router setup. I guess I don't need that though, huh?
[00:53] <KlrSpz> hey guys, i have my HTPC hooked up to my receiver (AVR), but when i turn it on w/o my AVR being on, the video card doesn't enable... I've been able to kill X and it detects it as it reactivates nvidia's driver, but I have to then log in (I have auto-login enabled)... how would i possibly get it to do this without requiring a new login.. i don't mind killing GDM/X, but don't want to have to log in ever
[00:53] <unop> acid2_, err, actually --  apt-cache search postgresql   not  dpkg -l | grep postgresql
[00:53] <Pici> LimCore: Have you tried resetting your router yet?
[00:53] <LimCore> Pici: yes
[00:53] <unop> acid2_, or better.   aptitude search postgresql
[00:53] <jon_high9000> hi there. is there a way to find the driver to the current hard drive that has ubuntu on it. the reason is i am trying to install debian 4.0 etch.
[00:53] <sn9_> galshawna: yes, but you can install sun-java6-plugin
[00:53] <CoolFox> is there a way to switch from KDE4 to 3.5 and back again without purging any software
[00:54] <galshawna> maconga, java-6-plugin isn't even a recognized package.
[00:54] <unop> CoolFox, i should think not
[00:54] <galshawna> sn9_, I have that installed already
[00:54] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, then the DNS is alright, you only need port forwarding if you plan to use p2p softwares otherwise you dont need it
[00:54] <CoolFox> unop, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
[00:54]  * CoolFox cries
[00:54] <maconga> galshawana: I don't really know the java ones....
[00:54] <sn9_> galshawna: sudo update-java-alternatives java6sun
[00:54] <galshawna> sn9_, I'll try that.
[00:54] <unop> CoolFox, you probably should purge anyway .. otherwise you are bound to run into all sorts of problems
[00:54] <Kelvin_0> does anyone know if there is a way to use a cable modem as a ouput to watch movies on a TV?
[00:54] <Tacotuesday> hello room
[00:54] <unop> !downgrade
[00:54] <CoolFox> but i want both :(
[00:54] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: I do plan to use P2P.
[00:55] <jon_high9000> btw, i am running a compaq system that has amd64 bit
[00:55] <Pici> LimCore: Have you made any changes to the system lately? Updated the kernel? etc? Did it stop all of a sudden or after a reboot?
[00:55] <CoolFox> i don't really like KDE4, but its so fast on my system
[00:55] <LimCore> Pic
[00:55] <Pici> Kelvin_0: No, you can't do that
[00:55] <unop> CoolFox, well, i've never used KDE -- what happens when you try and install the KDE3 then?
[00:55] <epaepa> CoolFox, gnome is faster
[00:55] <LimCore> Pici:  I think system upgrade
[00:55] <CoolFox> kde3.5 is so nice and shiney.
[00:55] <Kelvin_0> why not?
[00:55] <CoolFox> yes, it is.
[00:55]  * LimCore slaps Pichu0102 and pickett_
[00:55] <Pici> LimCore: You think?
[00:55] <CoolFox> gnome is faster.
[00:55] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, Then in your browser window give the address <IP_ADDRESS> enter the password of your router and go to NAT
[00:55] <LimCore> Pici: not my box
[00:55] <sn9_> galshawna: i mean java-6-sun
[00:55] <galshawna> sn9_, do you mean sudo update-java-alternatives --java6sun ?
[00:55] <galshawna> Oh
[00:55] <CoolFox> but, can't one tinker? :)
[00:56] <Tacotuesday> hey anyone help with with my upgraded system i am a totalt newb to ubuntu and linux, when i load my comp the desktop rezolution is all mess up
[00:56] <unop> CoolFox, well, what happens if you try? have you tried already? :)
[00:56] <CoolFox> boom
[00:56] <LimCore> Pici: can some config messup,  or missing application  make it so that   dhclient fails to get IP from the modem (as it did previously) ?
[00:56] <CoolFox> thats what. boom.
[00:56] <galshawna> sn9_, root@GalacAttack:~# update-java-alternatives java-6-sun
[00:56] <galshawna> usage: update-java-alternatives [--jre-headless] [--jre] [--plugin] [ -t|--test|-v|--verbose]
[00:56] <galshawna>            -l|--list [<jname>]
[00:56] <galshawna>            -s|--set <jname>
[00:56] <galshawna>            -a|--auto
[00:56] <galshawna>            -h|-?|--help
[00:56] <FloodBot2> galshawna: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:56] <Shujah> Tacotuesday, go to menu > system > preferences > screen resolution and change it
[00:56] <sn9_> galshawna: -s java-6-sun
[00:56] <Tacotuesday> can't see my desktop at all
[00:57] <Pici> LimCore: let me think for a moment
[00:57] <Tacotuesday> or my logon screen just wave and vauge shapes
[00:57] <Shujah> Tacotuesday, :S thats troublesome don't you switch to terminal mode after a while
[00:57] <unop> LimCore, does a static setup work fine?
[00:57] <galshawna> sn9_, it did provide a lot of alternatives, but the first line read: No alternatives for firefox-3.0-javaplugin.so.
[00:57] <LimCore> unop: I dont think this modem would allow it
[00:57] <Pici> unop: good thinking
[00:57] <Tacotuesday> i have gone to terminal but that is where i get lost/ scared
[00:57] <LimCore> unop: ISP's modem
[00:57] <unop> LimCore, errm, it ought to
[00:58] <Kelvin_0> There must be a way to use ethernet to output video to a TV if a video card is not available
[00:58] <LimCore> so what, set by hand eth1 to <IP_ADDRESS>  and.....?
[00:58] <xTheGoat121x> Hoorah, I got it.
[00:58] <epaepa> hey, how knows how to make chocolate cookies with ubuntu?
[00:58] <unop> LimCore, DHCP or not, what matters to the modem is that you have an IP address in the right network
[00:58] <unop> LimCore, yes
[00:58] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: I can't find NAT. what else is it called?
[00:58] <LimCore> whats the command?  ifconfig eth1 static ...... up  .... ?
[00:58] <Shujah> Tacotuesday, go to terminal and type startx           > see if any error ,essages are given
[00:58] <galshawna> sn9_, earlier you mentioned openjdk. What is the exact package name for it?
[00:58] <unop> LimCore, i'm not sure at the top of my head -- i always use the manpage
[00:58] <Tacotuesday> k hold
[00:59] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: I had found a section called "Port Range Forward"
[00:59] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, it should be in advance setting > nat
[00:59] <sn9_> galshawna: something. "dpkg -l '*openjdk*'" to find it
[00:59] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, google your router name and model no a manual must be online somewhere these details will be given there
[00:59] <ishmandoo> Hey, I am having a little trouble with ubuntu. Can someone here help me? Am I in the right place
[00:59] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: I have an advanced routing section.
[00:59] <Ursinha> ishmandoo, what's happening?
[00:59] <sn9_> galshawna: actually, "dpkg -l '*openjdk*'|cat"
[01:00] <Tacotuesday> okay should i go into revoery mode, or how do i get to terminal?
[01:00] <unop> sn9_, redundant use of cat :)
[01:00] <sn9_> unop: no, it's necessary
[01:00] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, Yup now make a new entry for port no 52100  (or any number thats just example)
[01:00] <unop> sn9_, for what reason?
[01:00] <sn9_> unop: because with a pipe, stdout is not a tty
[01:00] <ishmandoo> I have two cd drives that dont seem to work. I see them in "computer" but when I try to look at the files on one it says that it cant mount the drive
[01:01] <Shujah> Tacotuesday, like you went before though if GUI wont start you will automatically shift to terminal
[01:01] <Nubbie> hi everybody, i'm having trouble getting my webcam to work. i have a creative live! cam notebook pro. I installed and loaded the kernel modules needed, yet it isn't working.
[01:01] <galshawna> sn9_, it appears I already have openjdk installed.
[01:01] <sn9_> galshawna: that's what i said
[01:01] <Tacotuesday> in teminal
[01:01] <unop> sn9_, errm,  and is he not on an interactive shell?
[01:01] <sn9_> galshawna: it's now using that instead of the sun java
[01:01] <reviver> sn9_, OK so this is my xorg.conf file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26333/ and according to http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/xorg.conf.5.html the resolution is handled in a display subsection which isn't already added in my xorg.conf... do I need to add that subsection, if so, in a certain place or am I missing something?
[01:01] <sn9_> unop: he is, so cat is needed to fake it out
[01:02] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent_, you'll see something like external port start, external port end, internal port start!
[01:02] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: in which field? I have nothing that's only a port number. they're all <IP_ADDRESS> fields. except for "route name" and "interface"
[01:02] <Shujah> Tacotuesday, type startx
[01:02] <KlrSpz> hey guys, i have my HTPC hooked up to my receiver (AVR), but when i turn it on w/o my AVR being on, the video card doesn't enable... I've been able to kill X and it detects it as it reactivates nvidia's driver, but I have to then log in (I have auto-login enabled)... how would i possibly get it to do this without requiring a new login.. i don't mind killing GDM/X, but don't want to have to log in ever
[01:02] <sn9_> reviver: yes, you need to add it
[01:02] <unop> sn9_, that really is silly then -- but anyway, it does the same thing
[01:02] <ishmandoo> anyone have any ideas about my cd problem?
[01:02] <sn9_> reviver: you also need to turn off edid, ddc, and randr
[01:02] <Dewente3> Can i use a server with wireless ?
[01:02] <sn9_> unop: no, it doesn't -- try it
[01:03] <unop> sn9_, i use that command all the time
[01:03] <sn9_> unop: try it both ways and see the diff
[01:03] <reviver> sn9_, sorry, what are those and how do I turn them off?
[01:03] <unop> sn9_, and i don't usually need to put the globs in single-quotes either
[01:03] <Tacotuesday> fatal servererror serv already cative for display 0
[01:03] <sn9_> reviver: they are xorg.conf options
[01:03] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent_, dude NAT will be near Adavanced setting > WAN, LAN,
[01:03] <ishmandoo> no?
[01:04] <sn9_> unop: if you are in a dir where the globs match, you do
[01:04] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: I think you're wanting me to go into the "Port Range Forward" section... that has things like application, start, end, protocol, IP address.
[01:04] <scifiguy951> what is a good program if i want to rename ALOT of files?
[01:04] <Dewente3> can i use wireless with my server ?
[01:04] <galshawna> sn9_, no, I meant that I already have it installed. I remember that you told me it is using it. But whatever it uses now isn't working because I can't use java-based applications online.
[01:04] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent_, yes
[01:04] <Chaotic_Descent_> that was the first one I told you about, but you told me to look for NAT instead.
[01:04] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent_, can you add a new rule in that
[01:04] <rvtcadmin> Hi, I'm a noob.  i am using a colleague's computer that is running xfce (xubuntu).  I want to switch back to gnome, however, when log out and try to change the session to gnome it says gnome is not installed.  how do i check for sure?  where would i look in the file system?
[01:04] <unop> sn9_, which is why i said -- i _usually_ don't .. and i see no difference when piping to cat
[01:04] <chriswr> can anyone help me with installing a new cursor that i got from gnome-look.org?
[01:05] <sn9_> galshawna: of course it's installed; how could it be using it if it weren't installed?
[01:05] <Nubbie> rvtcadmin: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:05] <Wannabe> rvtcadmin, do you got gnome installeD?
[01:05] <unop> scifiguy951, rename
[01:05] <Dewente3> hello
[01:05] <Wannabe> rvtcadmin, do want nubbie said
[01:05] <Shujah> chriswr, drag the zip file to appearance window it'll will auto install
[01:05] <fiXXXerMe1> I want to format my drive and reinstall linux but I don't want to lose all of my data (like programs, settings, etc).  Should I just back up my /home/user folder?
[01:05] <Dewente3> can i use wireless with a server
[01:05] <sn9_> unop: shrink your terminal window to normal size and try again
[01:05] <Dewente3> ?
[01:05] <galshawna> sn9_, okay. I thought what you meant was that I needed to install it. Sorry for my misinterpretation.
[01:05] <chriswr> shujah: ok , thnx again
[01:05] <Penopticon> CoolFox: Then log out and use the session manager to log into KDE 3.5.
[01:05] <rvtcadmin> wannabe, i don't want to install it if it's already installed, though
[01:05] <rvtcadmin> how do i tell for sure it's not around somewhere?
[01:05] <Shujah> chriswr,  np
[01:05] <unop> sn9_, and what should i expect to see ? the same as before ?
[01:06] <Dewente3> thank for answered me ..
[01:06] <sn9_> unop: nope
[01:06] <simNIX> fiXXXerMe1: I would also do at least /etc and /usr/local/etc
[01:06] <Wannabe> rvtcadmin, it won't re-install it will only fix.
[01:06] <unop> sn9_, well, i do see the same thing
[01:06] <fiXXXerMe1> simNIX: Thanks
[01:06] <sn9_> unop: then you must have a very large screen and/or a very small font
[01:06] <KlrSpz> anyhone?
[01:06] <simNIX> handy to not have to find out agni how certain thing were configured
[01:06] <rvtcadmin> wannabe and Nubbie, great!  thanks muchly, will try : )
[01:06] <Dewente3> Dewente3: ok
[01:07] <Wannabe> rvtcadmin, =]
[01:07] <IdentifyTarget> how do I change my grub wait time?
[01:07] <unop> sn9_, not really -- 1024x1024, Kochi Gothic @ 9x15
[01:07] <Dewente3> how can i active root ?
[01:07] <unop> !root | Dewente3,
[01:07] <tj83> Identify edit /etc/boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:07] <tj83> IdentifyTarget,  edit /etc/boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:07] <unop> Dewente3, use sudo instead
[01:08] <Shujah> IdentifyTarget, for simple gui install startup manager for a bit harder way gedit/nano grub file
[01:08] <Dewente3> yes.. to use sudo and which password ?
[01:08] <DeadKennedy2880> server restart?
[01:08] <unop> Dewente3, your password
[01:08] <IdentifyTarget> christ I'm IRC
[01:08] <tj83> wonder who the lucky ones are going down?
[01:08] <IdentifyTarget> I can use command line
[01:08] <Pici> !netsplit
[01:09] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[01:09] <Dewente3> mmmmmm is that secure form
[01:09] <Pici> !traffic
[01:09] <unop> Dewente3, yes -- that is how sudo is setup on ubuntu
[01:09] <Shujah> what the heck happened !!!
[01:09] <Pici> !netsplit
[01:09] <unop> Shujah, a netsplit
[01:09] <KlrSpz> hey guys, i have my HTPC hooked up to my receiver (AVR), but when i turn it on w/o my AVR being on, the video card doesn't enable... I've been able to kill X and it detects it as it reactivates nvidia's driver, but I have to then log in (I have auto-login enabled)... how would i possibly get it to do this without requiring a new login.. i don't mind killing GDM/X, but don't want to have to log in ever
[01:09] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: so what do I do with this port forwarding stuff?
[01:09] <Guest47766> When I put a KFormula into KWord it shows up very small. When i try to resize the frame, The Frame size increases, but the Formula stays the same size. How do I resize this formula?
[01:09] <DeadKennedy2880> nice, ive never gotten a warning for a server restart before.
[01:09] <Dewente3> only for that first user that i created when i installed the first time
[01:10] <Stormx2> Whack.
[01:10] <MrObvious> Wow that was fun.
[01:10] <unop> Dewente3, no, it should work for any subsequent users you setup too in the same way - as long as they are in the admin group
[01:10] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent_, select on ip lets assume it is 51000 and add it into start external, end external, start internal, end internal and select server as your static ip
[01:11] <Dewente3> so u meant that the first user is in that group ?
[01:11] <CoolFox> that was INSANE
[01:11] <unop> Dewente3, by default, and out of the box, yes
[01:11] <Frans-Willem> Hmmmz
[01:11] <tj83> IdentifyTarget,  sudo gedit boot/grub/menu.lst  sorry and change " timeout		10"
[01:12] <Dewente3> understood .. but what happen is I want to change that's first user password ?
[01:12] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: I don't have internal and external. just start and end, protocol (TCP, UDP, or both) and IP address (192.168.1.*. can only change the last number)
[01:12] <Frans-Willem> For some reason MythBuntu insists that the drive in SATA0 is sdb, SATA1 is sdc, and SATA2 is sda, even though grub does refer to them as hd0,hd1,hd2 :S
[01:12] <theseus> i just changed /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname but it doesn't reflect
[01:12] <unop> tj83, use gksudo instead of sudo with X applications
[01:12] <Dewente3> can i make a password change ?
[01:12] <theseus> when i type hostname, i still get 'none'
[01:12] <unop> Dewente3, change your password?  sudo passwd
[01:12] <Dewente3> normally... ok
[01:13] <unop> !hostname | theseus
[01:13] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent_, ok only change start and end put in an ip say 51000 in both start and end and select the ip address same as your static ip which I think was <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:13] <Pici> !noroot | ubottu Dewente3
[01:13] <rockyrock> hi guys, i have question. Will the External USB Dialup modems work on Ubuntu???
[01:13] <s3a> im running virtualbox-ose on a 64 bit system can i run 32 bit xp with it or do i need to be in 32 bit ubuntu to do that?
[01:13] <Pici> unop: that was to you actually.
[01:13] <IdentifyTarget> nasty split, I'm back
[01:13] <Shujah> theseus, restart network for changes to take place
[01:13] <IdentifyTarget> what was the file I need to edit?
[01:13] <unop> Pici, i never recommended unlocking or enabling root :)
[01:13] <ftehw> can anyone throw me a pointer on how to add new keyboard shortcuts?
[01:13] <tj83> IdentifyTarget,  gksudo gedit boot/grub/menu.lst  sorry and change " timeout		10"
[01:13] <IdentifyTarget> ty
[01:13] <Tacotuesday> okay so still lost here
[01:13] <unop> Pici, you must have me confused for someone else
[01:14] <s3a> ftehw: system-->preferences-->keyboard shortcuts
[01:14] <Pici> unop: You just suggested using sudo passwd
[01:14] <rvtcadmin> nubbie, i'm afraid i thought i copied and pasted the command.. but, i didn't.  sudo apt -get ubuntu desktop?
[01:14] <sn9_> ftehw: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[01:14] <theseus> Shujah: how do i do that? /etc/init.d/hostname.sh start
[01:14] <unop> Pici, err, my bad ..  Dewente3 .. sudo passwd $USER
[01:14] <raavi> Why the modules to load in xorg.conf are not written in ubuntu-8.04 xorg.conf
[01:14] <galshawna> Does anyone know about getting Java to work with Firefox 3.0 in Ubuntu 8.04?
[01:14] <Shujah> theseus, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:14] <rockyrock> Will the External USB Dialup modems work on Ubuntu???
[01:14] <KlrSpz> galshawna: install ubufos
[01:14] <Dewente3> unop perfect
[01:14] <KlrSpz> galshawna: install ubufox
[01:14] <Dewente3> is done...
[01:15] <ftehw> s3a: sn9_ that provides a means to edit pre-defined actions.  what about making new actions?
[01:15] <KlrSpz> hey guys, i have my HTPC hooked up to my receiver (AVR), but when i turn it on w/o my AVR being on, the video card doesn't enable... I've been able to kill X and it detects it as it reactivates nvidia's driver, but I have to then log in (I have auto-login enabled)... how would i possibly get it to do this without requiring a new login.. i don't mind killing GDM/X, but don't want to have to log in ever
[01:15] <galshawna> KlrSpz, alright. I'll give that a try.
[01:15] <sn9_> ftehw: like what?
[01:15] <unop> Dewente3, i hope you didn't do sudo passwd   and did sudo passwd $USER instead
[01:15] <Sergeant_Pony> dang that was harsh
[01:15] <galshawna> KlrSpz, I already have ubufox installed.
[01:15] <Dewente3> appreciated
[01:15] <theseus> i am still root@none and hostname still returns 'none'
[01:15] <Dewente3> i did as
[01:15] <s3a> rockyrock: if its a hard modem
[01:16] <ftehw> sn9_: ?  like an arbitrary action.  (alt-t -> `exec foo`)
[01:16] <KlrSpz> galshawna: ok so then go to java.com and install, it should try to get it from aptitude
[01:16] <s3a> ftehw: im not sure sry :(
[01:16] <s3a> ftehw: ill google quickly for u
[01:16] <Dewente3> sudo passwd user
[01:16] <rockyrock> s3a, what do u mean by a hard modem??
[01:16] <unop> Dewente3, cool
[01:16] <galshawna> KlrSpz, alright. I'll be back if it fails to work.
[01:16] <Shujah> rockyrock, hard modem = not a winmodem :D
[01:16] <Cyndre__> anyone know of a site you can upload xrays to so others can look and give you there opinion?
[01:16] <rvtcadmin> ugg, i feel silly.  i just asked this question but didn't copy the command properly.  friend's laptop is running xubuntu, can't log into gnome (says it
[01:16] <theseus> Shujah: i think i need to reboot to have the hostname changed . . .
[01:16] <rockyrock> Shujah, how can i know that it's not a winmodem??
[01:17] <s3a> rockyrock: one that doesnt need drivers to work, im not exactly a pro on them but us robotics external modems should work and if its usb i think thats a bad sign but ur best best would be a program called ndiswrapper (which i havent used) but u should ask about that
[01:17] <rvtcadmin> s not installed), need to get it?
[01:17] <Dewente3> hey many thank unop... i appreciated .. i recently installed ubuntu server
[01:17] <rvtcadmin> but how
[01:17] <Dewente3> virtually
[01:17] <Shujah> thesues: can't say for sure
[01:17] <Dewente3> one more question
[01:17] <ftehw> s3a: another exmaple is "move window to workspace 3".  'keyboard-shortcuts' only defines shortcuts for workspace 1 and 2.
[01:17] <Dewente3> how about wireless and ubuntu server ?
[01:17] <unop> Dewente3, how about them?
[01:17] <akuma55> is there a way to down load to a location of chose on ubuntu server?
[01:17] <Shujah> rockyrock, google "your modem model no + linux" you'll get a fair idea
[01:18] <bloodrock> rvtcadmin, sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[01:18] <rockyrock> s3a, my friend boguht us robotics USB modem and it costs him 70$ and it didn't work on ubuntu!
[01:18] <Dewente3> can i setup wireless
[01:18] <Larose> Where are lock files located ?
[01:18] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, you can't figure out if gnome is installed or you think you uninstalled it?
[01:18] <bloodrock> rvtcadmin, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:19] <unop> Dewente3, sure -- but servers aren't really meant to be accessed wirelessly
[01:19] <unop> Dewente3, tho, there is no stopping you from doing that
[01:19] <s3a> rockyrock: lol i bought one too and it didn't work (back when i had dialup) but heres a good way to help u, if u get a hsf winmodem i can give u a driver which will make it work
[01:19] <rockyrock> Shujah, i don't have one, that why i'm asking! I have a PCI modem that doesn't work on Ubuntu so i need such a modem that work on it but i didn't find anything in the internet. I have only Dialup internet available now!
[01:19] <Dewente3> unop great ..
[01:19] <s3a> rockyrock: on 32 bit or 64 bit
[01:20] <onthefence921> what do i type to append a command to another command?
[01:20] <rockyrock> s3a, what do u mean by hsf?
[01:20] <rvtcadmin> Shujah and bloodrock, well, I can't figure out if it's installed.  but i was advised earlier to just use the command bloodrock suggested and told that would fix it
[01:20] <rockyrock> s3a, is it a brand\?
[01:20] <galshawna> KlrSpz, I saved the .bin file to my /home folder. I forget how to install .bin files? Is there a way I'm supposed to do it using ubufox? Or are the two installations just supposed to work together when both installed?
[01:20] <Shujah> rockyrock, google for "wvdial + your pci modem" most pci modem work via wvdial though its a headache to properly configure it
[01:20] <s3a> rockyrock: do u have a pci winmodem?
[01:20] <plik> onthefence921:  &&  will run the second command if the first exits successfully
[01:21] <s3a> rockyrock: no its not a brand
[01:21] <onthefence921> i have "banshee --play-enqueued --enqueue %U" and i want to add a command to that line (to mount a partition)
[01:21] <rockyrock> s3a, yes i do
[01:21] <s3a> rockyrock: ok do u have msn messenger?
[01:21] <Dewente3> can u recommend me a good book of administration ?
[01:21] <rockyrock> s3a, yes
[01:21] <s3a> rockyrock: or do u want me to give u a link here?
[01:21] <KlrSpz> galshawna: to install a bin file, just make it executable (chmod +x ./filename) then run it (sh filename.bin)
[01:21] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, open file manager go to userhome see if a directory named .gnome2 is present if its there gnome is installed/ or was installed
[01:21] <Steven_Hendry> Hey guys my cdrom displays audio cd's as blank cd's. Any ideas?
[01:21] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: ok, I read up on P2P port forwarding. Thanks.
[01:21] <rockyrock> s3a, look i'll back after 5 mints, plzzzz wait me, oky?
[01:22] <onthefence921> plik: i have "banshee --play-enqueued --enqueue %U" and i want to add a command to that line (to mount a partition)
[01:22] <s3a> rockyrock: ok but if i dont answer i might be in bathroom or something cuz i drank alot of orange juice
[01:22] <s3a> rockyrock: lol
[01:22] <rockyrock> s3a, acutally i'm going to the bathroom!!!! lool
[01:22] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent_, np         from terminal >    sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[01:22] <s3a> rockyrock: lol, k, i wont leave but i dont guarantee my idea will work for u either but we can try
[01:23] <Dewente3> upon: thank you
[01:23] <KlrSpz> hey guys, i have my HTPC hooked up to my receiver (AVR), but when i turn it on w/o my AVR being on, the video card doesn't enable... I've been able to kill X and it detects it as it reactivates nvidia's driver, but I have to then log in (I have auto-login enabled)... how would i possibly get it to do this without requiring a new login.. i don't mind killing GDM/X, but don't want to have to log in ever
[01:23] <CodddEr> in scite how i can ALWAYS view the line numbers ?
[01:23] <sn9_> anybody know how i can find out the status of an SRU?
[01:23] <plik> onthefence921: id mount first, so mount /dev/lah /mnt &&  banshee --whatever
[01:23] <KlrSpz> i am trying to restart GDM, but it won't start it once it logs me out (aka, kills X)
[01:23] <rvtcadmin> Shujah, I don't see usr/home.  under my username's home directory there is no gnome2.  sorry i don't understand the gnome file system very well yet
[01:24] <plik> I think you can use  banshee --whatever :   (or psossibly ;) mount but you'd have to test to see
[01:24] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, you will have to enable hidden files it's ctrl+h in nautilus
[01:24] <rvtcadmin> Shujah, I already did sudo apt -get install ubuntu-desktop.  will this hurt anything if it was already installed?
[01:24] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, I don't think it'll hurt
[01:24] <ftehw> s3a: i found it.  you can get a full interface to metacity's window management actions via gconf-editor (so that move 'window to workspace X' can be mapped)
[01:25] <galshawna> KlrSpz, I executed the .bin file and installed. According to the terminal, after I typed yes to agree to the terms, everything was installed fine. However, when I opened firefox and attempted to open pool at games.yahoo.com, it still reported the missing java plugin.
[01:25] <ftehw> s3a: thanks for ur help anyhoo.
[01:25] <Sergeant_Pony> anyone know how I can stop my laptop's hd from spinning down when it's idle?
[01:25] <rvtcadmin> Shujah, ok, phew :)  they are enabled, but i see no usr/home
[01:25] <spoontastic> galshawna, you downloaded the .bin version of FF?
[01:25] <KlrSpz> galshawna: odd, i'm not sure... it all worked flawless for me?
[01:25] <spoontastic> why not just grab it from the repo?
[01:26] <s3a> ftehw: sry lol and so i no sudo gedit gconf-editor?
[01:26] <galshawna> spoontastic, I'm using the standard ubuntu 8.04 installation of FF3.
[01:26] <KlrSpz> galshawna: you could always try wiping out your firefox config (~/.mozilla) and start over from scratch... backup your bookmarks if you do
[01:26] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, Then I don't think gnome was installed
[01:26] <galshawna> spoontastic, I'm just trying to get it to work with java
[01:26] <s3a> ftehw: o no, i dont no wat to do :(
[01:27] <Shujah> galshawna, from terminal > sudo update-alternatives --config java             <select sun java.
[01:27] <plik> s3a: sudo only works on commandline, so it wont work with gedit
[01:27] <bloodrock> rvtcadmin, check at the login screen under options>sessions see if gnome is listed
[01:27] <Shujah> galshawna, from terminal > sudo update-alternatives --config xulrunner-1.9-javaplugin.so  <<select sun java
[01:27] <Shujah> galshawna, from terminal > provided you nstalled sun java
[01:27] <EagleScreen> you can run sudo gedit
[01:27] <gregbrady> plik, why can't you sudo gedit file?
[01:27] <galshawna> Shujah, I think I've done that before, but I'll give it a second chance.
[01:28] <spoontastic> galshawna, have you tried the JRE package?
[01:28] <galshawna> spoontastic, yes.
[01:28] <gregbrady> plik, works fine here.
[01:28] <bloodrock> EagleScreen, correct command is gksudo gedit
[01:28] <sn9_> bloodrock: no, it's gksu gedit
[01:28] <EagleScreen> and what is the matter with sudo gedit?
[01:29] <gregbrady> sudo gedit works fine
[01:29] <plik> oh, ok my mistake - gksudo is the proper command for sudoing gui appsgui a
[01:29] <Shujah> EagleScreen, nothing but for GUI mostly gksu is used. a Better habbit :P
[01:29] <sn9_> plik: no, gksu is
[01:29] <plik> thought you might have probs
[01:29] <ftehw> s3a: do: gconf-editor then browse apps>>metacity>>[whatever you want]
[01:29] <galshawna> Is this a common problem with people upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04 and FF3?
[01:29] <plik> ok so my point remains, theres a difference command to sudo for you gui kids
[01:29] <ftehw> edit the command key (right click is easiest) and enter it in manually.
[01:29] <rvtcadmin> bloodrock, it was listed, but when i tried to switch to it it said it was not installed
[01:30] <rvtcadmin> bloodrock, is installing presently
[01:30] <spoontastic> galshawna, usually flash is the problem with FF, not Java
[01:30] <gregbrady> plik, sudo command works just fine.
[01:30] <rockyrock> s3a, are u here?? I'm back :D
[01:30] <EagleScreen> i have bought a Dgital TV Tunner, in the bag says it is GNU/Linux compatible, with the Tux penguin
[01:30] <plik> gregbrady: I heard you the first time, thanks
[01:30] <sn9_> EagleScreen: is it from hauppauge?
[01:30] <EagleScreen> i cannot compile the provided driver
[01:30] <Shujah> galshawna, I'm afraid so - check out this website > http://www.futuredesktop.com/set_default_java_vm.html
[01:30] <galshawna> spoontastic, yes, and I've had enough experience getting around flash problems that I'm usually all set with that. Except I still can't get youtube to run smoothly in fullscreen (the refresh rate sucks.
[01:30] <s3a> rockyrock: ya im here
[01:30] <s3a> rockyrock: ok so u have 32 bit?
[01:30] <gregbrady> plik, ok, np
[01:31] <rockyrock> s3a, can i pm you?
[01:31] <galshawna> Shujah, thank you.
[01:31] <bloodrock> rvtcadmin, k try sudo apt-get install gnome2.22.2 least i think thats correct
[01:31] <s3a> rockyrock: in forums?
[01:31] <sn9_> EagleScreen: never use vendor-provided drivers; they are always crap
[01:31] <Kcaj> Yo
[01:31] <Kcaj> compiz fusion crapped out
[01:31] <spoontastic> galshawna, have you tried the OpenJDK package, openjdk-6-jre?
[01:31] <Kcaj> I can't even barely use Ubuntu any more
[01:31] <Kcaj> It keeps making me log back in if I try to change bindings
[01:31] <rvtcadmin> bloodrock, for better or for worse i already tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:31] <Kcaj> and wont rotate my screen or anything any more
[01:32] <EagleScreen> sn9_ then what must I do?
[01:32] <m1r> !enter > kcaj
[01:32] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, a better way would be to go to synaptic and unistall gnome if its there then reinstall it, but it will wipe out the diff configs
[01:32] <sn9_> EagleScreen: who is the mfr? hauppauge? or avermedia?
[01:32] <galshawna> spoontastic, yes.
[01:32] <slavik> how do I get sound input to be echoed to the speakers? (there is no hardware mixing on my sound card which is a cmi8788)
[01:32] <Guiri> Is the package maintainer for apache2 around? Essentially, for some reason the system is overriding the rewrite rules as described http://rewrite.drbacchus.com/rewritewiki/SSL and still allowing http: access to the site, although it is accessible via https:
[01:32] <EagleScreen> TVISTO
[01:32] <bloodrock> rvtcadmin, was being used for desktop envi
[01:32] <Kcaj> Well anyway, I'm being serious here. I can't close or minimze windows or anything any more. All  ever did was install and start to use Compiz fusion and emerald from synaptic
[01:32] <sn9_> EagleScreen: and what is the name of their driver?
[01:32] <galshawna> spoontastic, Shujah just gave me a website whose instructions I'm going to follow for now and see if it helps. If that website doesn't end up solving my problem, then I'll be back.
[01:33] <rvtcadmin> Shujah, thanks, i'll remember for next time.
[01:33] <rvtcadmin> bloodrock, xfce/xubuntu was being used
[01:33] <Kcaj> It worked fine for a while., but these days, I have to start in safe mode, then go to normal, and even tyrying to use compiz fusion requires me to keep loging back in (throws me out0 and then never even works right.
[01:33] <gregbrady> Kcaj, do your windows have borders?
[01:33] <bloodrock> rvtcadmin,  oh
[01:33] <Kcaj> "Borders"?
[01:33] <Kcaj> No, I mean I can File, Edit, etc. but no close, minimize and maximize and such.
[01:33] <bloodrock> rvtcadmin,  was gnome ever on it
[01:33] <gregbrady> Kcaj, do you see the X for close button?
[01:33] <Cyndre> anyone want to see my hand x-rays?
[01:34] <sn9_> EagleScreen: and what is the name of their driver?
[01:34] <EagleScreen> www.t-visto.com, it uses driver dvb-af901x or dvb-usb-af901x, i mean kernel modules
[01:34] <root0> to whom i have to address about a strange update? there is libdns32 and now after update there is another package _identical_ but with name libdns35. after this update libdns32 apears like an orphaned package. what shal i do? remove the libdns32 package or not? is libdns35 the same package as libdns32, or not?
[01:34] <rvtcadmin> bloodrock, apparently, i found gnome files under /share
[01:34] <gregbrady> Kcaj...ok...sec...
[01:34] <Kcaj> gregbrady: You seem to be on to something, I mean I already noticed I had no close option or anything, it s VERY annoying, I can';t even move my windows around./
[01:34] <sn9_> EagleScreen: you may want to use the pkgs prepared by martin pitt last month
[01:34] <rvtcadmin> bloodrock, though maybe those could just be old preference files?
[01:34] <gregbrady> Kcaj, I have the same problem on my pclos machine.
[01:35] <Kcaj> This problem, has esentially almost completely disabled my OS and made it impossible to use... starting up is a major chore and requires I always go through safe mode first, and repair packages and x server, etc.
[01:35] <bloodrock> rvtcadmin, they do use some gnome stuff on xubuntu
[01:35] <gregbrady> Kcaj, I have to start the Compiz button every time I boot
[01:35] <sn9_> EagleScreen: they will probably work for you
[01:35] <EagleScreen> sn9_ where can i find them?
[01:35] <rvtcadmin> bloodrock, ah, i see.
[01:35] <Kcaj> gregbrady: Same her, but now, when I start it, I can't even use it, if I try to, it makes me log out, and back in and just completely screws me.
[01:35] <sn9_> EagleScreen: search
[01:35] <spoontastic> Kcaj, have you tried...uninstalling compiz
[01:36] <spoontastic> ?
[01:36] <EagleScreen> okay, i will search in the garden :D
[01:36] <Kcaj> Any ideas? I have an amazing video card, there is no reason this should be going on, seriously. Really kind of annoying. I want to use Ubuntu bad, but this, and no support for m ywireless card are going to make me forced to switch back to Windows :(
[01:36] <Kcaj> Should I really do that? Uninstall and reinstall>?
[01:36] <bloodrock> rv so right now it stil telling ya gnome not installed
[01:36] <ozzloy> how do i set up my server to send email?  for instance with a bugzilla install?
[01:36] <Shujah> Kcaj,  > your graphic card is not recognized or simply compiz is misbehaving?
[01:36] <sn9_> Kcaj: which wifi?
[01:36] <KEAL> w00t free Hannah Montana 3-D glasses at WALMART!
[01:36] <Kcaj> Compiz is misbehaving bad.
[01:37] <Kcaj> Some Broadcom, Dell Dual Buand 1490 WLAN minicard
[01:37] <Kcaj> I read like 100 tutorials online to make it work, none worked, they all just screwed it up worse I think.
[01:37] <Shujah> Kcaj, have you tweaked compiz-setting through advance desktop effects?
[01:37] <Kcaj> Shujah: I think it is compiz, I had absolutely no problems before compz, and compiz worked great actually until I did a reboot.
[01:37] <sn9_> Kcaj: that is supported -- just install the b43-fwcutter pkg
[01:37] <prada> can someone tell me if Ubuntu has a chat client the supports voip
[01:37] <Kcaj> Oh, yes, yes, yes I have, but now, I cant even do that. Trying to use compiz, makes me log back in.
[01:38] <Kcaj> Okay, I might have to ask you about that again
[01:38] <ticktick> how do I resolve package dependancies
[01:38] <Kcaj> Because I have to close IRC to open anything else, due to my current problem
[01:38] <Kcaj> I'm going to close this nor, and remove compiz, and then reinstall, I'll let you guys know how it went.
[01:38] <plik> prada: ekiga
[01:38] <rvtcadmin> bloodrock, i don't know, I can't use synaptic now because apt-get is installing ubuntu desktop
[01:38] <prada> thanks
[01:38] <ticktick> how do I resolve package dependancies with virtualbox??
[01:38] <tj83> Kcaj, i think re-installing and coming back here to resolve"out-of-box" issues is amongst the best ideas.
[01:39] <Shujah> Kcaj: using emerald manager with compiz?
[01:39] <gis> hi
[01:39] <sn9_> ticktick: ose or from virtualbox.org?
[01:39] <bloodrock> rvtcadmin, oh ok then it prob installing gnome
[01:39] <gis>  i lost my souces.list (a my mistake .. i deleted it )
[01:39] <gis>  tring to find a solution, i tried to use a sorces.list from an other ubuntu ..
[01:39] <rvtcadmin> bloodrock, yeah, i'll just wait and see what happens
[01:40] <gis> . but unluky maybe it is wrong for these machine
[01:40] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, :D worse case scenario in installs a newer version on top of an old one.
[01:40] <gis> these the sources.list i'm using,   uname -r give me : 2.6.22-14-server  i don't .. but seems to be a 7.10 version
[01:40] <Shujah> just kiddin :P
[01:40] <gis> http://rafb.net/p/i4TUY923.html
[01:40] <ticktick> SN9 dont understand
[01:40] <ticktick> ose?
[01:40] <sn9_> ticktick: the virtualbox-ose pkg, or the one from the website?
[01:41] <eek> hey all silly question whats the latest distro for ubuntu?
 downloaded VB from the virtualbox website and when installing it says unresolved depenancies
[01:42] <sn9_> eek: latest release is hardy heron 8.04.1, and 8.10 intrepid ibex is in alpha now
[01:42] <Shujah> eek: ubuntu 8.04 stable, 8.10 unstable
[01:42] <rvtcadmin> Shujah, yeah. but, uh.. how do I figure out if it did that ;)  synaptic?
[01:42] <eek> ok thanks
 libssl0.9.8
[01:42] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, it wont :D it'll update the gnome if that was the case
[01:43] <sn9_> ticktick: installing from a download is a 3-step process:
[01:43] <con-man> ok
[01:43] <ticktick> ok
[01:43] <con-man> stupid floodbot
[01:43] <sn9_> 1) install linux-headers-generic
[01:43] <sn9_> 2) install the downloaded pkg
[01:44] <ticktick> ok
[01:44] <sn9_> 3) "sudo apt-get -f install" on a line by itself
[01:44] <prada> plik will i be able to make free phone calls from my computer
[01:44] <Shujah> < listening to 'Its a wonderful life' by black on songbird
[01:44] <galshawna> Shujah, thank you so much for that website. It worked. I realize my problem wasn't lack of installation components, but I just didn't have the right configuration, given sun java was running one thing and another java program was running something else. Thanks a lot.
[01:44] <eek> any buddy got the quick link to the 8.04 distro download?
[01:44] <Shujah> galshawna, I thought so :D glad you worked it out
[01:44] <sn9_> eek: it's easy to find on the ubuntu.com website
[01:45] <rvtcadmin> Shujah, hooray! linux is smart
[01:45] <Shujah> galshawna, you werent configuring the xulrunner same happened to me
[01:45] <ticktick> ok nothing installed, this install of hardy was completed 1 hour ago
[01:45] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, only as smart as the admin I,m afraid :P
[01:46] <ticktick> sn9 install: missing destination file operand after `linux-headers-generic'
[01:46] <sn9_> ticktick: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[01:46] <jin> any one knows how to place the minimize,close, maximize buttons to the right in emerald?
[01:46] <spoontastic> eek: ubuntu.com
[01:47] <sn9_> ticktick: then, sudo dpkg -i somefile.deb
[01:47] <eek> thanks all got it already :D
[01:47] <CirclesCenter> If anyone remotely knowledgable could help, I'm a bit of a nooblet having minor issues (that I can't figure out) Please PM me.
[01:47] <CirclesCenter> Install stuff
[01:47] <Shujah> jin: they already are at right unless you are using a specific theme or changed it yourself.
ok already newest version 0 done 0 etc
[01:47] <simNIX> why not ask your question here ?
[01:47] <sn9_> CirclesCenter: how minor?
[01:47] <spoontastic> !anyone | CirclesCenter
[01:47] <gregbrady> CirclesCenter, with what?
[01:48] <con-man> CirclesCenter: ask your question here so everyone can learn
[01:48] <jin> Shujah, it is theme specific
[01:48] <galshawna> Shujah, just wondering if you also happen to know about problems getting Wine Gecko to install properly.
[01:48] <Killer--Tux> what's u all
[01:48] <CirclesCenter> K didn't want to be a pain, but ubuntu does not see my HDD at all
[01:48] <Shujah> jin: edit the theme and change the location
[01:48] <eek> why do they still offer other downloads of old distros??
[01:48] <CirclesCenter> XP is living happily on it
[01:48] <con-man> CirclesCenter: raid drive?
[01:48] <galshawna> Installing gecko is my last real pain-in-the-*** problem.
[01:48] <jin> Shujah, how do you edit an emerald theme?
[01:48] <Shujah> galshawna, sorry don't know much about that
[01:48] <CirclesCenter> Single drive, sata II wd 250
[01:49] <sn9_> spoontastic: can anybody tell me how i might find out the status of an SRU? ;)
[01:49] <ticktick> eek - why do they print old books?
[01:49] <spoontastic> not sure what an SRU is, sorry
[01:49] <fiyawerx> hey guys, not sure how new this is, but "wtf" about best-buy SELLING ubuntu haha
[01:49] <bloodrock> CirclesCenter, what drive is ubuntu on
[01:49] <spoontastic> fiyawerx, pretty awesome, eh?
[01:49] <CirclesCenter> It isn't on, I'm trying to shoehorn it in.
[01:49] <Shujah> jin: menu > system > preferences > emerald theme manager      <open the theme manager backup the theme and then manually configure the different aspects
ok already newest version 0 done 0 etc
[01:49] <CirclesCenter> It however does not want to go
[01:49] <eek> old books still have good ideas and linux isnt windows  I wont go back to feist from gibbon will I ticktick?
[01:49] <sn9_> spoontastic: Stable Release Update -- it's the question i came in here with several hours ago
[01:49] <fiyawerx> spoontastic: for 20$ when you can order it / dl it for free?
[01:50] <galshawna> Does anyone know how I can get Wine Gecko installed properly? While installing WoW every single time an installer, or even just the launcher, that uses HTML opened, a pop-up saying that Wine needs to install Gecko would come up where I could push install, but it wouldn't do anything.
[01:50] <fiyawerx> hope that was ssarcastic heh
[01:50] <rvtcadmin> Shujah, ... hmm, then i'm in trouble
[01:50] <jin> Shujah, I am there but can't any way to put them to the right
[01:50] <jm2k> i have Hardy with kernel <IP_ADDRESS>-generic, would it be smart to update to new kernel <IP_ADDRESS>-generic or not?

[01:51] <jin> Shujah, found it :-)
[01:51] <spoontastic> fiyawerx, how does a person know to download it for free if they don't know much about alternative operating systems? It's free advertising in one of the biggest chain retailers in the country, which is a triumph for open source
[01:51] <sn9_> jm2k: use 2.6.24-19-generic
[01:51] <sn9_> ticktick: you did all 3 steps?
[01:51] <z662> does anyone know how i can restrict a user from accessing the document root directory?
[01:52] <jm2k> sn9_: best way to upgrade to 2.6.24-19?
[01:52] <galshawna> Anyone here know about Gecko, which allows launchers and other non-web browser applications to display HTML? And how to install it?
ok already newest version 0 done 0 etc no changes made
[01:52] <sn9_> z662: by changing permissions
[01:52] <bloodrock> CirclesCenter, by shoehorn you mean automaticaly resize to add ubuntu?
[01:52] <Shujah> jin: in title bar layout change title to thsi > (2)C(3)N(2)X::T(2)S <<<but backup the theme before hand
[01:52] <sn9_> jm2k: should simply ask to do it for you
[01:52] <z662> sn9_, but then apache wont serve them....unless i did it wrong
[01:53] <galshawna> Is there a wine channel?
[01:53] <bob3213243> what is a keyring
[01:53] <sn9_> z662: oh, you mean a web user...
[01:53] <CirclesCenter> Ok maybe I'm explaining this wrong. When it asks where to install Ubuntu it gives me no options on where to put it.
[01:53] <slavik> galshawna: #winehq
[01:53] <Shujah> galshawna, try playonlinux <-- go to their sitew
[01:53] <bloodrock> CirclesCenter, you useing the livecd right now
[01:53] <galshawna> Shujah, I'll check that out.
[01:54] <sn9_> CirclesCenter: are you using the ubuntu windows installer, or did you boot the cd?
[01:54] <z662> sn9_, i have a user that i gave ssh perms to, but i have htaccess files in my document root i dont want the user to be able to access, however i would still like to be able to sign into apache via http to access them
[01:54] <CirclesCenter> No I'm in XP, but I can be in a minute if need be.
[01:54] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, worry not dude you already know more about Ubuntu then most :D
[01:54] <sn9_> z662: sounds like your groups are screwed up
[01:54] <CirclesCenter> I was booting the Live Cd sorry for the bad answer
[01:54] <slavik> how do I get sound input to be echoed to the speakers? (there is no hardware mixing on my sound card which is a cmi8788)
[01:55] <sn9_> CirclesCenter: the livecd does ask at some point
[01:55] <z662> sn9_, what group ownership should document root be then? i dont have an apache group according to 'groups'
[01:55] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, one thing you ought to be careful about is root
[01:55] <sn9_> z662: maybe you should make one
[01:55] <sn9_> z662: www-data
[01:55] <CirclesCenter> sn_9, yeah when it asks where to put it the list is completely blank.
[01:56] <rvtcadmin> Shujah, yes?  you mean where you run the scary delete every thing command?
[01:56] <sn9_> CirclesCenter: oh. do you have an older sata controller?
[01:56] <z662> sn9_,  so make a group of www-data, then use chown www-data /var/www and everything should work fine with apache?
 thanks, problem not solved yet but i have to go to bed now - very tired. i'll try in the morning. thank you for having a go.
[01:56] <galshawna> If anyone here has used wine, cedega, and crossover, which do you think works best?
[01:56] <sn9_> z662: chgrp, but yes
[01:56] <z662> thanks sn9_
[01:57] <sn9_> galshawna: crossover, wine, cedega, in that order
[01:57] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, when ever your do any actions as a root it *might* change some settings such as ownership of files/directories/devices which then wont be accessible by non-root users and ofcourse wrong commands acn cripple the system,
[01:57] <bloodrock> sn9_, think he said his drive was a sata II
[01:57] <galshawna> sn9_, what advantages does crossover have to wine?
[01:57] <sn9_> bloodrock: i asked about the controller, not the drive
[01:58] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, so until and unless you do something wrong as a root, you are safe :d
[01:58] <sn9_> galshawna: more recent updates&fixes, priority support
[01:58] <galshawna> Do programs run better under crossfire than in wine? Like would I be better off trying to get WoW to work in crossover than in wine?
[01:59] <CirclesCenter> sn_9 I don't think it's too old. This is what it says about the deal: ATI SB600 South Bridge: 4x SATA II RAID
[01:59] <sn9_> galshawna: WoW works fine under wine
[01:59] <dsmith_> ubuntu on sale at bestbuy now
[01:59] <Cyndre> galshawna: have you added the wine repositorys?
[01:59] <sn9_> CirclesCenter: put it in AHCI mode
[01:59] <galshawna> sn9_, It actually is working alright for me. Only that when I close wine my resolution is all screwed up until I restart.
[01:59] <rvtcadmin> Shujah, every time I do something as sudo, i'm doing it as root?
[01:59] <galshawna> Cyndre, yes I have the wine repo.
[01:59] <Shujah> rvtcadmin,  yup
[01:59] <CirclesCenter> sn9_, not to be a moron, but that's in the BIOS right?
[02:00] <bob3213243> what is a keyring
[02:00] <sn9_> CirclesCenter: yes, and make sure you're installing 8.04.1, not some earlier version
[02:00] <galshawna> sn9_, I meant WoW. when I close WoW after playing it my resolution is bad.
[02:00] <Cyndre> galshawna: Thought I would check - from what I have heard WoW works fine in wine, but I dont have any experience playing it
[02:01] <Shujah> but using sudo for synaptic is ok - using root account e,g, sudo nautlilus is a bit risky unless you are sure what you are doing
[02:01] <galshawna> Cyndre, I haven't really had a hard time with wine. It works fine for me, I was just kind of curious what might be better than wine. The only thing I really don't like is how WoW messes up my screen resolution.
[02:01] <CirclesCenter> sn9_, rodger that, thank you very much, this is my second go round with linux and before asking a question was like asking to be shot, now however it is much much nicer and you get answers instead of made fun of.
[02:01] <CirclesCenter> Thanks!
[02:01] <CirclesCenter> :)
[02:02] <Drk_Guy> Hi
[02:02] <notWeb> Hello, I need some help setting up a palm pilot on Hardy Heron.
[02:03] <sn9_> notWeb: you need to unblacklist the visor module
[02:03] <Drk_Guy> !palm | notWeb
[02:03] <notWeb> sn9, can we go off to a separate room to talk about this?   Too much traffic here.
[02:03] <rockyrock> s3a, are u here?
[02:03] <pdg1> what exactly does compiling do?
[02:03] <s3a> rockyrock: ya
[02:04] <sn9_> notWeb: as it should be
[02:05] <rockyrock> s3a, the stup still waiting for an answer for this in the Terminal: Where is the linux source build directory that matches your running kernel?
[02:05] <rockyrock> [/lib/modules/2.6.24-generic/build]
[02:05] <notWeb> ubottu: I've started reading the guide in Evolution, but it asks me to go to GNOME System > Settings, and I can't find that.  :(
[02:05] <rockyrock> s3a, i didn't know what should i do!
[02:05] <sn9_> notWeb: it's at the top of the screen
[02:05] <s3a> rockyrock: how do u do the pm thing?
[02:06] <notWeb> Yeah, System at top of screen, but then where's Settings?
[02:06] <sn9_> notWeb: Preferences
[02:06] <Drk_Guy> s3a, /query <someone>
[02:06] <pdg1> I'm trying to get gXiso...
[02:06] <pdg1>  I think i've got the source
[02:06] <Drk_Guy> pdgl, is it on the repos?
[02:06] <pdg1> pretty sure it isn't
[02:06] <notWeb> sn9: I'm trying to get to Pilot Link.  There's no Pilot Link under Preferences.
[02:06] <Drk_Guy> apt-cache search gXiso | pdgl
[02:07] <Drk_Guy> Just to make sure pdgl
[02:07] <sn9_> notWeb: PalmOS Devices
[02:07] <Drk_Guy> That won't need sudo
[02:07] <notWeb> sn9: Damn!  You're right.  How could I have missed that?
[02:07] <s3a> virtualbox-ose tells me sumtin bout kernel wat do i do (i added myself to vboxusers)
[02:07] <Drk_Guy> XD notWeb
[02:07] <notWeb> Pls don't leave.  I'm going to run that...
[02:08] <Drk_Guy> !virtualbox | s3a
[02:08] <sn9_> s3a: yes, add yourself to that group
[02:08] <bob3213243> what is a keyring
[02:08] <sn9_> !repositories | bob3213243
[02:08] <slavik> !keyring | bob3213243
[02:09] <s3a> sn9_: i alredy did that
[02:09] <sn9_> s3a: log out and back in
[02:09] <slavik> bob3213243: keyring is a single place to store your password to various resources
[02:09] <Drk_Guy> bob3213243, the keyring keeps keys on a safe
[02:09] <notWeb> sn9: should I say I've used sync software with this PDA before, or not?  I have, but not on this computer...
[02:10] <Dillizar> aaaa how to install mozilla 3
[02:10] <sn9_> notWeb: it's a bad idea to sync palm devices with more than one computer at a time
[02:11] <Erick|Laptop> When i try to start Compiz-Fusion by typing "compiz
[02:11] <notWeb> sn9: agreed.  But I'm transferring this one from a Win98 system, to Ubuntu...  For my mother, FWIW.  :)
[02:11] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know how to set Apache to only allow 1 connection per IP?
[02:11] <Erick|Laptop> When i try to start Compiz-Fusion by typing "compiz" in terminal, i get the error
[02:11] <notWeb> sn9: actually, I'm past that dialog.
[02:12] <notWeb> Decided it was a yes.  Otherwise it was h\going to initialize a new PDA ID...
[02:12] <bynet23> allo
[02:12] <genii> Erick|Laptop: ALT-F2  compiz --replace
[02:13] <Erick|Laptop> genii, its telling me it cannot find Xgl and there is no whitelisted driver found
[02:13] <nickr-> how do i get out of fstab? :o
[02:13] <Erick|Laptop> and, i dont know how to use my keyboard ;)
[02:13] <sn9_> nickr-: depends on how you got in
[02:13] <nickr-> i got into it by console
[02:13] <sn9_> nickr-: ...
[02:13] <nickr-> now im done editing
[02:14] <notWeb> sn9: ubottu was right: need to install visor module.   How do I do that?
[02:14] <nickr-> how do i get out now
[02:14] <codyt07> Hey, i am running ubuntu Hardy 64 bit, is their any tricks/tips to improve the sound quality. I have a on board video card but the sound seems rather thin. Or is linux sound still a beta thing?
[02:14] <sn9_> notWeb: i said that, not ubottu
[02:14] <burner> 64-bit is a sketchy thing compared with 32-bit
[02:14] <genii> nickr-: So probably either :qw              or else ctrl-x
[02:14] <yowshi1> !compiz
[02:14] <notWeb> sn9: sorry: didn't mean to take anything away from you.  You're being really helpful, and I appreciate it a lot.
[02:15] <Erick|Laptop> when i try to start compiz-fusion by typing "compiz" in terminal i get the error "Checking for Xgl: not present" "No whitelisted driver found" "aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity"
[02:15] <FAJALOU> I have an LCD monitor that is showing up as a CRT in nvidia-settings.  Is this a problem for anything or not?
[02:15] <sn9_> notWeb: there is a file in /etc/modprobe.d called something like libpisock9
[02:16] <sn9_> notWeb: get rid of the blacklisting line in it
[02:16] <notWeb> Yeah, found the file.  Just a sec.
[02:17] <pc3_> deska_dea
[02:18] <utarpradesh> where can I download microphone DRivers?
[02:19] <utarpradesh> I can't get my mic to work
[02:19] <utarpradesh> in audacity
[02:19] <Kcaj> Okay d00dz
[02:19] <FAJALOU> have you tried unmuting it utarpradesh
[02:19] <Kcaj> I got compiz working again
[02:19] <utarpradesh> yes
[02:19] <Kcaj> How do I get compiz the sphere?
[02:19] <utarpradesh> wait, where is the mic mut button?
[02:19] <Kcaj> Instead of just the cube one. I mean, the cube is sweet and all, but I wants the sphere, yo.
[02:19] <FAJALOU> yes there is.
[02:19] <s3a> can sum1 help me with virtualbox-ose
[02:20] <s3a> i get VBox status code: -1908 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED). wen trying to load xp cd thu virtualbox-os
[02:20] <s3a> virtualbox-ose*
[02:20] <sn9_> s3a: sudo modprobe vboxdrv
[02:21] <notWeb> sn9: OK, I'm back.  Commented out that line.
[02:21] <s3a> sn9_: FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found.
[02:21] <notWeb> what's next?
[02:21] <Kcaj> I mean, I don't see anything related to "sphere" or "round" when I synaptics for compiz, or those terms themselves, nothing related to compiz
[02:21] <Kcaj> Any help?
[02:21] <pdg1> okay... nothing in the repos
[02:21] <sn9_> notWeb: plug in the palm
[02:21] <befr0d> Hi, I'm looking for a simple Video Editor that would allow me to narrate a video
[02:22] <notWeb> sn9: plugged in and ready to rock.
[02:22] <FAJALOU> Kcaj: #compiz-fusion might be able to help, and it's only available on the newer compiz versions.... ie not the ones in the repos
[02:22] <notWeb> I'll try syncing again
[02:22] <sn9_> befr0d: what format?
[02:22] <gam3r111> can i help my friend through help and support in window sif im ub=sing ubuntu?
[02:22] <Kcaj> So that essentially means I gotta be compiling it?
[02:22] <befr0d> sn9_,  its mpg, I've already tried diva but I cant import the video file
[02:22] <FAJALOU> Kcaj:  i think that you can get the new one from the git repos, but they are not recommended.
[02:23] <sn9_> befr0d: you will probably need cinelerra, then
[02:23] <gam3r111> can i help my friend through help and support in windows if im using ubuntu?
[02:24] <FAJALOU> gam3r111: depends on what you are trying to do.
[02:24] <sn9_> gam3r111: if your friend turns on desktop sharing, you can connect
[02:25] <jpratt> ok, I need more help, Need help with samba and Desktop effects. Would be greatly appreciated.
[02:25] <gam3r111> sn9_: wat if they send u a file through im?
[02:25] <FAJALOU> jpratt:  what with desktop effects?
[02:25] <sn9_> gam3r111: that should work, barring any firewall issues
[02:25] <gam3r111> ok thx
[02:25] <conduit4sale> hi
[02:26] <jpratt> FAJALOU: They refuse to Enable
[02:26] <sn9_> hi | conduit4sale
[02:26] <sn9_> !hi | conduit4sale
[02:26] <conduit4sale> i just installed ubuntu 8.04 hardy heron everything works okay except wireless
[02:26] <FAJALOU> jpratt: what is your videocard and monitor
[02:26] <FAJALOU> conduit4sale: did it used to work
[02:26] <conduit4sale> yeah
[02:26] <conduit4sale> i was on windows xp before
[02:26] <FAJALOU> ahh , ok,
[02:26] <jpratt> Its an ATI mobility radeon M6, And im on a laptop
[02:26] <FAJALOU> is it pci or usb?
[02:26] <conduit4sale> i think its pci
[02:27] <conduit4sale> its a broadcom 4318
[02:27] <FAJALOU> do you have the cd for it?
[02:27] <notWeb> sn9: I don't seem to have a /dev/pilot .
[02:27] <FAJALOU> !broadcom | conduit4sale
[02:27] <FAJALOU> jpratt:  sorry is that relatively new?
[02:27] <sn9_> conduit4sale: connect with a wire temporarily, and install the b43-fwcutter pkg
[02:27] <pdg1> Drk_Guy: gXiso is not on the repos...
[02:28] <sn9_> ubottu: forget broadcom
[02:28] <jpratt> FAJALOU: No, Not at all but i had them working once before When i had Ubuntu on here, But had to install Windows for a slew of reasons
[02:28] <FAJALOU> conduit4sale: or you could also take the packages from packages.ubuntu.com put them on a flash drive and then install them from there.
[02:28] <Drk_Guy> pdg1, then compile it off, refer to the project's wiki for dependancies and -dev packages for compiling
[02:28] <drash> befr0d: open movie editor has support for anything ffmpeg can read .. might be another one to check .. http://www.openmovieeditor.org/
[02:28] <FAJALOU> ok jpratt is compiz installe?
[02:29] <FAJALOU> installed ?
[02:29] <sn9_> conduit4sale: don't do what FAJALOU said
[02:29] <Drk_Guy> pdg1, If they do not metion -dev packages, only install dependancies with -dev endings ;O)
[02:29] <jpratt> FAJALOU: Yep
[02:29] <FAJALOU> ok, good good ;)
[02:29] <FAJALOU> have you installed fusion-icon?
[02:30] <pdg1> okay... I'm going to assume that there's some super documenting in the Ubuntu wiki on compiling
[02:30] <jpratt> Conduit4Sale:sn9 helped me with my wireless troubles
[02:30] <jpratt> FAJALOU: maybe
[02:30] <pdg1> because I really have no clue how to compile...
[02:30] <FAJALOU> ok can you check that out?
[02:30] <jpratt> Working on it
[02:30] <Drk_Guy> !compiling | pdg1
[02:30] <conduit4sale> alright it said that all broadcom cards should be working with 8.04 but its not
[02:31] <sn9_> conduit4sale: the revision 2 4312's don't
[02:31] <jpratt> Conduit4Sale, Are you On the Ubuntu comp right now?
[02:31] <conduit4sale> i have a 4318
[02:31] <conduit4sale> yeah
[02:31] <sn9_> conduit4sale: but 4318 works
[02:31] <conduit4sale> im connected with a lan
[02:31] <conduit4sale> ethernet
[02:31] <conduit4sale> it detects the wireless card
[02:31] <pdg1> oh cool beans...
[02:32] <conduit4sale> but no networks are shown
[02:32] <ASULutzy> Is there any sensible/semisafe way to get the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver that Intrepid uses onto my hardy install? This driver fixes my S-video problem, as well as enables a few compiz plugins that don't currently function 100% correctly. I tried just adding intrepid to my /etc/apt/sources.list and then doing sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel, but apt-get basically told me I was an idiot... Any id
[02:32] <ASULutzy> !enter | conduit4sale
[02:32] <pdg1> thanks Dr_guy
[02:32] <pdg1> Drk_Guy
[02:32] <jpratt> sn9_ will what you told me to do for mine work for him?
[02:32] <FAJALOU> !ubuntu+1 | ASULutzy
[02:32] <sn9_> ASULutzy: enable updates and backports
[02:32] <ASULutzy> FAJALOU: That wasn't what I asked. I need Hardy support. Not intrepid support.
[02:32] <AMLNXUSR> anyone know how i can extract or mount bin files?
[02:32] <FAJALOU> sorry sorry sorry, my bad ASULutzy
[02:33] <ASULutzy> sn9_: I tried that, 2:2.3.2-2 isn't in backports or updates as far as I can tell :-/
[02:33] <sn9_> jpratt: i don't remember what you had anymore :/
[02:33] <notWeb> sn9: what to do about missing /dev/pilot?
[02:33] <sn9_> ASULutzy: then wait
[02:33] <Drk_Guy> pdg1, don't worry, and try writing drk and pressing tab ;)
[02:33] <jpratt> sn9_: WPC54GS ver. 2
[02:33] <Nikyo> Hi I have Ubuntu 8.04, Two Hard Drives on a ATA controller card are showing in the menu. I can click on these drives and they mount and show on the desktop. What I need, is for both of them to mount each time I log into Ubuntu. Tried to enter two lines in FSTAB, does not work, suggestions, please.
[02:33] <pdg1> Drk_Guy: WHOA!
[02:33] <sn9_> notWeb: you plugged in after commenting, right?
[02:33] <travis_> hello
[02:33] <spoontastic> ASULutzy, why not just download the package, instead of adding repos? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/2:2.3.2-2ubuntu3
[02:34] <Drk_Guy> XD pdg1 :)
[02:34] <pdg1> IRC is strange
[02:34] <sn9_> jpratt: then, yes
[02:34] <notWeb> sn9: no was connected prior.
[02:34] <travis_> I still don't know why, but something has erased all my privileges so i can't even install anythung?
[02:34] <ASULutzy> spoontastic: heh, I tried that too, that's like dependency hell, and trying to resolve it manually is dang near impossible ;)
[02:34] <travis_> what to do next?
[02:34] <theacolyte> so I've got this problem, I'm installing 8.04.1 and for some reason the installer (live cd version) seems to have stopped accept input - I tried to cancel it, but the cancel button doesn't do anything
[02:34] <sn9_> notWeb: when i said "now plug it in" i meant it
[02:34] <jpratt> Conduit4Sale: Go to synaptic package manager
[02:34] <theacolyte> How do I close the live cd installation wizard (what processes?)
[02:34] <AMLNXUSR> anyone know how i can extract or mount bin files?
[02:34] <ASULutzy> spoontastic: I guess I can just boot into Intrepid when I need S-video, still... It's so close! Maybe I can just QQ to package managers to hurry up and pipe intel 2:<IP_ADDRESS>-ubuntu3 to the hardy repos
[02:35] <Jordan_U> travis_:  What do you mean "has erased all my privileges" , do you get an error?
[02:35] <conduit4sale> i have a broadcom bcm4318 wireless card.  im running ubuntu hardy heron 8.04 and it detects the wireless card but when it doesnt detect any networks even though its on roaming mode.  also any attempts to manually  connect wont work either
[02:35] <conduit4sale> okay
[02:35] <travis_> yes
[02:35] <spoontastic> conduit4sale, did you look at that wiki page?
[02:35] <sn9_> conduit4sale: did you install b43-fwcutter like i said?
[02:35] <conduit4sale> which one
[02:35] <jetroid> Nikyo, I know it's not a solution, but as far as I know, fstab is just a "lookup" file for mounting...it doesn't *automatically* mount them at start-up (but that is obvious from what you said...)
[02:35] <spoontastic> !broadcom | conduit4sale
[02:35] <conduit4sale> im looking for it right now
[02:35] <theacolyte> nm, I guess it was ubiquity
[02:36] <travis_> travis is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[02:36] <Jordan_U> travis_: Can you post it ( if it is more than one line please use pastebin )
[02:36] <conduit4sale> the b43 isnt listed
[02:36] <sn9_> conduit4sale: refresh package list
[02:37] <jpratt> FAJALOU: It is Now (Fusion-icon installed)
[02:37] <ASULutzy> conduit4sale: I would use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff for broadcom help. It's worked for me and for many many others. Ndiswrapper isn't ideal for all, but it works 100% stable and fine for me.
[02:37] <travis_> Jordan_u: travis is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[02:37] <enderbean> Hello, I'm trying to set up a seaside app on my computer. It works, unless I set it up on port 80, in which case the connection is refused. Any advice on resolving this would be appreciated.
[02:37] <sn9_> ASULutzy: that is for feisty, not hardy
[02:37] <ASULutzy> sn9_: It works for Hardy just fine
[02:37] <conduit4sale> sn9: refreshing right now
[02:37] <sn9_> ASULutzy: using that method on hardy is just silly
[02:37] <Jordan_U> travis_: You will need to add yourself to the "admin" group, that requires root privileges of course so you will need to boot into recovery mode unless there is another user that can use sudo
[02:37] <ASULutzy> sn9_: Several ops will suggest it as well, including Jack_Sparrow
[02:37] <spoontastic> conduit4sale, follow the links, man
[02:38] <travis_> ok so
[02:38] <spoontastic> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4318_%5BAirForce_One_54g%5D_(Native_Driver)
[02:38] <travis_> reboot in recovery mode
[02:38] <travis_> ad travis to admin
[02:38] <sn9_> ASULutzy: no wonder ubottu is so confused about broadcom
[02:38] <travis_> add
 Thanks for that info.. after I click on them.. I can access them ok.. but the thing is that I am running Samba Server on Ubuntu.. and I would like to be able to access the drives from another computer instead of logging in to the Ubuntu box.. then clicking on the drives first to mount them..
[02:38] <ASULutzy> sn9_: That's not true, several people's broadcom cards still aren't recognized in Hardy, mine for example. I was unable to get any solution to work other than the ndiswrapper one (of course I did buy a cheap wireless USB adapter for when I need monitor mode ;))
[02:38] <travis_> thanks
[02:38] <travis_> i'll try
[02:39] <Nikyo> I;ve looked around for a fix action before coming here..
[02:39] <sn9_> ASULutzy: do you have a 4312?
[02:39] <jpratt> I still need helps with Desktop effects please
[02:39] <ASULutzy> sn9_: That probably has more to do with my ineptitude, but still, the feisty solution works for lots of people including myself ;) No, I have a 4310 rev01
[02:39] <spoontastic> conduit4sale, nm, that link is for something else
[02:39] <sn9_> ASULutzy: because 4318 is well-supported
[02:39] <gregbrady> ASULutzy, yep, mine too.  broadcom is no good and constant overheating.  I had to switch back to XP to make it all work.
[02:39] <spoontastic> just get the cutter package, anyway
[02:40] <untraceable> Sn9_: do you know if the Atheros 5008 is supported in Ubuntu
I know also that there is a "sessions" feature in Ubuntu that can save running applications and also you can aoutostart commands.. however.. that does not seem to work either.
[02:40] <sn9_> untraceable: 5008 will "just work" but 5007 will not
[02:40] <akuma55> if i want to download something from off the ether with wget can i tell it were i want to put it?
[02:40] <sn9_> akuma55: -P
[02:40] <notWeb> sn9_: I unplugged it.  Ran the Initial Sync again, and got the same results.  What's my next move?
[02:41] <conduit4sale> sn9: i just got the b43firewire cutter i also installed ndiswrapper common
[02:41] <ASULutzy> akuma55: it will download to your pwd by default, just cd to the directory you want to download it to
[02:41] <sn9_> notWeb: is the module loaded?
[02:41] <Jordan_U> akuma55: wget URL -O filename
[02:41] <untraceable> Sn9_: by "just work" wat do you mean?
[02:41] <notWeb> sn9_: where should I look for that module?
[02:41] <sn9_> conduit4sale: it's firmware, not firewire
[02:41] <sn9_> notWeb: lsmod
[02:41] <sn9_> untraceable: i mean plug&go
[02:41] <ASULutzy> akuma55: Alternatively you can use -O
[02:42] <joshual> hey, anyone rember a gtk2 theme that uses a progress bar that looks exactly like the ubuntu boot splash progress bar? (trying to find theme that matches that boot splash, black, orange (white)...
[02:42] <conduit4sale> sn9: wordo.  should the wireless networks be showing up now or should i try disconnecting from ethernet and restarting first?
[02:42] <joshual> http://johan.kiviniemi.name/tmp/what-usplash
[02:42] <untraceable> Sn9_: so its good out of the box
[02:42] <sn9_> conduit4sale: restart if it's built-in
[02:42] <conduit4sale> okay brb
[02:42] <notWeb> sn9_: yep, visor *is* loaded.
[02:42] <sn9_> untraceable: yes
[02:42] <conduit4sale> thnx ahead of time
[02:42] <ASULutzy> Yea, just got engaged last weekend :)
[02:43] <ASULutzy> Whoops, that was a mistelll... Now the world knows
[02:43] <ASULutzy> lol
[02:43] <notWeb> (man, this IRC is a contact sport...)
[02:43] <sn9_> notWeb: but no /dev/pilot?
[02:43] <akuma55> sn9_, like say a zip would it be like 'wget -p whatever.zip /my/location
[02:44] <untraceable> Sn9_: alright looks like im buying an Atheros 5008, THX for the insight Sn9_ it was greatly appriciated
[02:44] <koolranch> Hi everyone, I could use some help downloading files to Ubuntu
[02:44] <koolranch> would anyone be willing to help me out?
[02:44] <sn9_> akuma55: wget -P /my/location whatever.zip OR wget whatever.zip -P /my/location
[02:44] <cdm10> koolranch: what sort of files?
[02:44] <notWeb> sn9_: ls in /dev doesnt list a pilot.
[02:44] <ASULutzy> akuma55: you could either just cd to /my/location and do wget http://whatever.com/thezip, or do wget http://whatever.com/thezip -O /my/location/
[02:44] <sn9_> notWeb: odd
[02:44] <koolranch> any kind of file that's not in the synaptic, like the eMusic.com music player and mp3s
[02:44] <koolranch> and java
[02:44] <ASULutzy> akuma55: Oh, is it -P? I may be wrong there ;)
[02:45] <sn9_> ASULutzy: -O is for naming the downloaded file
[02:45] <cdm10> koolranch: to install Java, just run the command < sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin
[02:45] <akuma55> ?
[02:45] <koolranch> I've only had Ubuntu for a day
[02:45] <ASULutzy> sn9_: Ah ok, I always just cd to the directory and run wget inside the directory :P
[02:45] <koolranch> ok
[02:45] <akuma55> what does the -p stand for
[02:45] <ASULutzy> akuma55: man wget
[02:46] <koolranch> how did you know the name of the file "sun-java6-plugin?"
[02:46] <notWeb> sn9_: what was supposed to happen?
[02:46] <koolranch> and do I need to download it to my desktop first?
[02:46] <cdm10> koolranch: I've just answered the question "how do I install java" quite a lot :)
[02:46] <cdm10> koolranch: no, the package manager will download the package and install it for you.
[02:46] <koolranch> ok
[02:46] <ASULutzy> koolranch: Experience, but also you can usually click System -> Administration -> Synaptic package manager, and search in there. Also if you sudo apt-get install bash-completion, it lets you use tab complete for lots of things, even package names
[02:46] <sn9_> never mind; my bad. just try to sync anyway
[02:46] <cdm10> koolranch: the command aptitude is just another way of accessing the package manager, just like Synaptic or Add/Remove
[02:46] <sn9_> nonever mind; my bad. just try to sync anyway
[02:47] <sn9_> notWeb: never mind; my bad. just try to sync anyway
[02:47] <koolranch> so I could just type in that command line right now, and Ubuntu would find java and install it?
[02:47] <cdm10> koolranch: Well, it might, and if not, we'll have to enable something, and it will. Just try it :)
[02:47] <koolranch> ok, I'll try it
[02:47] <cdm10> koolranch: Do you know how to get to the Terminal to enter commands?
[02:47] <notWeb> yeah, got that.  It actually says "Put PDA in Cradle (/dev/pilot) and press HotSync button."
[02:47] <koolranch> yes
[02:47] <koolranch> but I only know the absolute baiscs
[02:47] <koolranch> *basics
[02:48] <jm2k> best tutorial to upgrade hardy kernel to newer stable version?
[02:48] <sn9_> jm2k: none is usually needed
[02:48] <ASULutzy> heh, I wonder how bad I would hose up my system trying to resolve all the dependencies for Intrepid's version of xserver-xorg-video-intel inside my Hardy install...
[02:48] <dolphin_noel> is there something bether then mp3info to check the bitrate from mp3?!
[02:48] <ASULutzy> jm2k: Usually you can just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:49] <dolphin_noel> sometimes looks it dont give to me the right values
[02:49] <dolphin_noel> :x
[02:49] <sn9_> ASULutzy: very badly
[02:49] <trakinas> dolphin_noel, on the therminal?
[02:49] <koolranch> ok, it appears to be installing cdm10
[02:49] <trakinas> *terminal
[02:49] <cdm10> dolphin_noel: if you're in Gnome, you can look in the properties window... why do you think tehy're wrong?
[02:49] <notWeb> sn9_: trying the sync.  Nothing happening on the PC.  Eventually gives up on PDA.
[02:49] <koolranch> thanks a ton
[02:49] <cdm10> koolranch: No problem.
[02:49] <dolphin_noel> trakinas nathing to nautilus?!
[02:49] <koolranch> how do I install other things, though, like the emusic music player and mp3s?
[02:49] <drash> ASULutzy: it's not worth the effort if you want to keep some hair for that engagement party, congrats btw ;)
[02:49] <dolphin_noel> trakinas ohh you tell to i see it in terminal right? :x inside watch the nautilus?!
[02:49] <jm2k> sn9_: might be me but ur replies are a bit cryptic.
[02:49] <sn9_> notWeb: oh, duh, i forgot that you need to edit the udev rules
[02:50] <gluer> how do i configure my intel card to allow dual montior with extended desktop support in hardy? is there an app i can download?
[02:50] <ASULutzy> sn9_: Yea, agree... I'm bummed, in Intrepid everything works perfectly for me except virtualbox crashes when I boot XP vdi's that work under Hardy, and in Hardy there are a few compiz plugins that don't work, but more importantly S-video doesn't work, so I have to do this constant reboot dance and it stinks :(
[02:50] <jm2k> ASULutzy: tried apt-get but nothing.
[02:50] <cdm10> koolranch: As for the eMusic download manager, it looks like I have to sign up first in order to see the client to download, so I can't really help you with that... you might want to try googling for it.
[02:50] <trakinas> dolphin_noel, you see it on nautilus or terminal?
[02:50] <ASULutzy> drash: lol thanks ;) and good point
[02:50] <dolphin_noel> cdm10 because i have some mp3 that sometimes give to me some values and i click again and give it to me anothers ...
[02:50] <koolranch> ok
[02:50] <cdm10> dolphin_noel: well, that's really weird...
[02:50] <koolranch> what about mp3s?
[02:50] <dolphin_noel> trakinas well ussually in the natilus :x
[02:50] <notWeb> sn9_: uhhuh, \and taht would be what?
[02:50] <ASULutzy> jm2k: What kernel are you currently using?
[02:50] <jm2k> ASULutzy: currently running <IP_ADDRESS> but need to upgrade to <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:50] <koolranch> I download them and they just show up as an xml file on my desktop
[02:50] <tech0007> jm2k: what's 'uname -r'
[02:50] <cdm10> koolranch: if you want to download an mp3 from a website, just right-click it and click Save As, just like in Firefox on any other OS.
[02:50] <cdm10> koolranch: where are you downloading them from?
[02:50] <hlfshell> howdy gang
[02:50] <koolranch> emusic.com
[02:51] <travis> jordan_9: it worked
[02:51] <sn9_> notWeb: search the forums; the answer is there somewhere
[02:51] <hlfshell> if you're curious, i just lost respect for myself for saying howdy.
[02:51] <dolphin_noel> cdm10 yes that why i'm asking because i have sometimes like 96 kbps ... but the file size and everything is very good ...
[02:51] <ASULutzy> jm2k: Ah, that's not available in Hardy afaik, you'd have to compile that yourself I believe...
[02:51] <trakinas> dolphin_noel, no idea. i check bitrates when playing. lol
[02:51] <ASULutzy> !kernel | jm2k
[02:51] <cdm10> koolranch: it seems like you might need some sort of plugin in that case... I'm really not familiar with eMusic, though.
[02:51] <koolranch> I see
[02:51] <koolranch> do you have any idea where I might find a plugin like that?
[02:51] <travis> Jordan_U: now i have aniother question
[02:51] <notWeb> sn9_: I'm searching for?  "udev rules pilot"?
[02:51] <dolphin_noel> and sometimes i put it once and then click again and dont give to me the same value :x it happens to 3 or 5 mp3 -+
[02:51] <travis> Jordan_U: how can i load all my aliases on boot?
[02:52] <sn9_> notWeb: visor module permissions
[02:52] <dolphin_noel> trakinas yes probably is bether ... :x
[02:52] <koolranch> and is that a plugin for firefox, or for ubuntu?
[02:52] <Jordan_U> travis: Bash aliases?
[02:52] <jm2k> ASULutzy: trying to get madwifi compiled but needs 2.6.23+
[02:52] <travis> Jordan_U: yes
[02:52] <amenado> travis  /etc/profile
[02:52] <Jordan_U> travis: Put them in your ~/.bashrc
[02:52] <dolphin_noel> trakinas could be some refresh problem ... in the nautilus :x ... or something i dont know :x
[02:52] <travis> ok
[02:52] <snarkster> hi
[02:53] <herrkin> hi everyone..
[02:53] <jm2k> ASULutzy: since i dont want to mess with Ubuntu kernel i thought there would be an easy step to it.
[02:53] <travis> thanks dude i've just started and i love it!
[02:53] <travis> linux rules!
[02:53] <sn9_> jm2k: it happens automagically for everybody else
[02:53] <hlfshell> jetroid, you therE?
[02:53] <herrkin> I need somebody to help me configure the ati driver in hardy
[02:53] <herrkin> can somebody help me?
[02:53] <amenado> jm2k-> i dont think you require that as minimum..2.6.23+ to compile a madwifi
[02:54] <ASULutzy> jm2k: you said you needed 2.6.25 before, which is it?
[02:54] <poseidon> !rules
[02:55] <ASULutzy> jm2k: also what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[02:55] <herrkin> I have tried quite a bit but nothing seems to work
[02:55] <jm2k> sn9_: i did upgrade to stable hardy when it came out but a few weeks ago, downloaded updates and my Atheros AR5212 card stopped working.
[02:55] <ASULutzy> jm2k: Because in Hardy the newest stable kernel is I believe 2.6.24-19, which is above what you said you neeeded (2.6.23+)
[02:55] <jm2k> ASULutzy: Hardy.
[02:56] <ASULutzy> jm2k: What's in your /etc/apt/sources.list? Because I use hardy and have <IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[02:56] <cpk1> jm2k: if you are talking about madwifis requirement for the kernel its Linux Kernel 2.4.23+ and 2.6.x series
[02:56] <jpratt> Hey i did the sudo blah blah for java and now i need to hit ok But Its in the bloody terminal, Help
[02:56] <cdm10> jpratt: hit tab until it gets there
[02:56] <jpratt> Thanks
[02:57] <herrkin> can somebody help me?
[02:57] <jm2k> ASULutzy: all sources are Hardy universe/multiverse.
[02:57] <trakinas> dolphin_noel, no idea.
[02:57] <theacolyte> So... NVIDIA drivers. Should I go with the official NVIDIA drivers, or the restricted ones?
[02:57] <jpratt> Herrkin: Ask away im sure someone here can
[02:58] <dolphin_noel> trakinas neither i lol :) that why i was asking :x :)
[02:58] <sn9_> jm2k: you need "main" and "restricted" too
[02:58] <cdm10> theacolyte: the restricted ones are the official ones from nVidia
[02:58] <dolphin_noel> no problem that ok
[02:58] <dolphin_noel> :)
[02:58] <ASULutzy> jm2k: Do you want to paste it to a pastebin? My sources.list has everything except backports enabled
[02:58] <cdm10> theacolyte: and, I recommend them... without them, you can't get accelerated graphics.
[02:58] <theacolyte> cdm10: They're also about 5 revisions older
[02:58] <theacolyte> hmmm
[02:58] <herrkin> I am asking everyone if somebody can help me, the ati channel seems to be dead
[02:58] <theacolyte> I've gotten it to work on 7, but this time I'm wondering about it
[02:58] <sn9_> ASULutzy: you should enable backports and disable proposed
[02:58] <jm2k> yes that too: ubuntu hardy-security main restricted
[02:59] <ASULutzy> sn9_: Er, sorry I don't have proposed enabled either
[02:59] <snarkster> ati drivers are for only new hardware, they dont have an archive like nVidia does
[02:59] <ASULutzy> !anyone | herrkin
[02:59] <theacolyte> the restricted drivers are 167 or something like that, the latest official drivers are 173
[02:59] <theacolyte> thus my concern
[02:59] <cdm10> theacolyte: it's true that they're behind, but it's up to you whether you want to deal with the hassle of the nVidia driver packaging
[02:59] <theacolyte> do the ubuntu-restricted drivers come with the control panel?
[02:59] <theacolyte> cdm10: now *that* I can understand :)
[02:59] <danaman5> Where in the file system are the default icons stored?
[02:59] <sn9_> theacolyte: some do
[03:00] <cdm10> danaman5: /usr/share/icons, i believe
[03:00] <danaman5> thanks
[03:00] <herrkin> does anyone know how to configure ati x800 card drivers?
[03:00] <theacolyte> sn9_: sorry, I was referring to the NVIDIA ones
[03:00] <snarkster> the icons are usually stored in /usr/share/icons or /usr/share/pixmaps
[03:00] <sn9_> theacolyte: then, no
[03:00] <ASULutzy> sn9_: But I guess I can enable backports for funsies. ;)
[03:00] <herrkin> I have made a lot of stuff but none worked..
[03:00] <sn9_> theacolyte: but it will install them
[03:00] <ASULutzy> herrkin: Have you tried using envyng? it pretty much does most of the work for you
[03:00] <ASULutzy> !envy | herrkin
[03:00] <herrkin> yes
[03:00] <theacolyte> sn9_: So I would need to install the "official" drivers for the control panel?
[03:00] <herrkin> I did
[03:01] <herrkin> I used envyng
[03:01] <herrkin> I installed the fglrx from the ati website
[03:01] <theacolyte> sorry for the possible redundant question
[03:01] <sn9_> theacolyte: the control panel will download restricted drivers