[00:01] <cuddylier> I can;t find anything on google as a solution hmm
[00:03] <robert__> Is this the best place to ask questions about ubuntu on powerpc8
[00:07] <Anoniem4l> robert__ I bet it is
[00:13] <kuldud> hi
[00:13] <kuldud> I have some questions
[00:14] <kuldud> Is there someone that can i help me
[00:14] <kuldud> can help me
[00:14] <Beldar> kuldud, State the issues for help to the channel.
[00:15] <kuldud> I wanna set up ubuntu on HP dl380 g5 server : I want to use it as a file server, print server, and media server. Also I want to install four hdd sata3... Is this possible?
[00:16] <kuldud> Am i on the right track
[00:16] <Alanbitsch>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY alan
[00:17] <Alanbitsch> whoops
[00:17] <Alanbitsch> xd
[00:17] <kuldud> beldar?
[00:17] <Daekdroom> Alanbitsch, you might want to change your password now
[00:18] <kuldud> I wanna set up ubuntu on HP dl380 g5 server : I want to use it as a file server, print server, and media server. Also I want to install four hdd sata3... Is this possible?
[00:18] <kuldud> Help?
[00:18] <Beldar> kuldud, I did not say I would know, just that you have to state then issue. ;)
[00:18] <Beldar> kuldud, And have some patience this is free help. ;)
[00:18] <kuldud> ok
[00:19] <arleslie> kuldud: for the hardware, I do not know. If your server supports four hdd sata3s, then yes. As well, the services you wish to run are possible as well. Will Ubuntu run on a HP D1380 Q5 server, most likely, but I do not knwo forusre.
[00:20] <arleslie> r/forusre/for sure/
[00:22] <kuldud> Any ideas where i can check if ubuntu is compatible on a computer
[00:22] <Zakamiro_> The computer's specifications?
[00:23] <arleslie> kuldud: unfortantly, the only sure was would be to install it, running it via Live CD is usually fine. But you can get all the hardware information and search the wiki.
[00:23] <chokesmaster> kuldud, I know that Lenovo has a page where it list Linux compatibility of their product
[00:23] <chokesmaster> maybe other brand has this too
[00:24] <ryguy_> kuldud: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/200810-1117/ <-- I think it would work.
[00:24] <kuldud> I havent bought the computer yet. Before I invest this computer is about 7 years old and im not sure it would work.
[00:24] <arleslie> kuldud: Your server is listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesServersHp --- It does say it is supposed as off Ubuntu 4.10
[00:24] <kuldud> ok thank you guys
[00:25] <Alanbitsch> why cant i use Eric?
[00:25] <Alanbitsch> (IDE)
[00:28] <Beldar> Alanbitsch, Which ubuntu release?
[00:29] <Beldar> I see a 3rd party up to 13.10
[00:31] <Beldar> !info eric
[00:31] <Beldar> Alanbitsch, In the repos.
[00:31] <Tex_Nick> Alanbitsch: if you don't get an answer here ... you might try #python
[00:32] <Guma> I have ARM board with kernel image on it but it does not have cdc_acm module. I got the source. When I run make menuconfig, Select module, make M=devices/usb/class it builds cdc_acm.o but I do not se ko file
[00:33] <physixer> on 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' I'm offered to autoremove the package aglfn, and install a NEW package aglfn. I removed it with autoremove previously. If I dist-upgrade, it offers to autoremove again. If I autoremove it, it offers in the dist-upgrade again. Help!
[00:42] <jorge> how do I setup apparmor?
[00:43] <Guest60343> physixer: have you tried apt-get install aglfn ? i will install and set it selected. apt wont uninstall it
[00:43] <physixer> Guest60343: no I haven't but I don't know if I need it or not. Once I install it, I can decide after that?
[00:45] <physixer> ok I installed it, then I removed it. Now dist-upgrade offers to autoremove and install it again :(
[00:45] <sajan> wafflejock,
[00:48] <OerHeks> !info aglfn
[00:49] <Guest60343> physixer: do you use gnuplot or texlive-full ?
[00:50] <physixer> I removed texlive. But I have gnuplot installed. FWIW, it mentions that it kept back 2 packages, gnuplot-nox and gnuplot-x11
[00:51] <OerHeks>  Dingbats font http://sourceforge.net/adobe/aglfn/wiki/Home/
[00:51] <Guma> How do I go about building cdc_acm.ko
[00:53] <jorge> how do I use apparmor?
[00:54] <Beldar> Guma, I see very little and all rather old on the web.
[00:54] <Guest60343> physixer: aglfn is a dep of gnuplot so if you dont want it, you will have to remove gnuplot
[00:55] <foo> I have php5-fpm setup on ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS but for some reason I'm getting 500 error with this. Been on this for over 30 minutes and cannot figure it out. Getting this in error log: (111)Connection refused: FastCGI: failed to connect to server "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/php5-fcgi": connect() failed - that file doesn't exist. Should it? I followed several guides that all said the same thing. Hmm.
[00:55] <Guma> Beldar: ???
[00:55] <Beldar> !apparmor
[00:57] <physixer> Guest60343: ok I get it. I installed aglfn and now dist-upgrade looks fixed. Thanks.
[00:58] <Beldar> Guma, You might try ##linux if you are registered with freenode, not really a ubuntu support issue per-say, and seems rather a small use community probably.
[01:01] <Beldar> jorge, man apparmor or  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor
[01:01] <jorge> that community help page doesn't help Beldar
[01:02] <Beldar> jorge, So?
[01:02] <Beldar> if you need your hand held youmay wait awhile
[01:03] <Beldar> All you need is there or in links
[01:03] <Beldar> as well the man apparmor
[01:04] <jorge> aa-genprof doesn't work
[01:04] <sadhash> I botched my installation by deleting /home/ as root. I torrented a 14.04 iso and checked the md5. I used dd to change 2 pendrives I just bought today and when I reboot, the bios says "isolinux.bin is corrupt or missing" I've google, read the wiki, and no luck.
[01:04] <drewjo> sadhash, deleting home is fine
[01:04] <sadhash> Any ideas welcome. Oh, the problem with deleting /home/ is that I can't lgin
[01:05] <Beldar> sadhash, try with no password
[01:05] <sadhash> You say that drew but logging into my account, the desktop doesn't load. Password is accepted
[01:05] <sadhash> No pw? Okay
[01:05] <sadhash> Note, I know this isn't the right chanel but I was trying xubuntu
[01:06] <sadhash> I'll try now tho
[01:06] <drewjo> heathen!
[01:06] <drewjo> heretic!
[01:06] <sadhash> Roflmao
[01:06] <drewjo> Unity is life
[01:06] <sadhash> I am not a fan of unity I'm sorry
[01:06] <drewjo> Unity is love
[01:06] <sadhash> Rofl
[01:07] <sadhash> Didn't work
[01:07] <sadhash> Also, I had just tried ecrypt on..
[01:07] <Beldar> sadhash, You get in but no desktop right?
[01:07] <carbon_> does anyone know if the 12.04 ubuntu release has a built in system restore? or is it all third party backup programs?
[01:08] <sadhash> I can take pictures
[01:08] <sadhash> But it accepts my root password
[01:08] <Beldar> carbon_, What is your definition of restore?
[01:08] <sadhash> Then nothing. X doesn't start
[01:08] <expunge> carbon_: the media you used to install with is the same as any system restore
[01:08] <Beldar> sadhash, root password?
[01:08] <carbon_> restoring to an earlier state of the system before an attempted os upgrade
[01:08] <Beldar> carbon_, No ubuntu has that.
[01:08] <Beldar> that is windows
[01:08] <sadhash> Belmar, I use the same login and password as I had before, the same pw I use for root.
[01:09] <carbon_> i thought as much
[01:09] <physixer> what's the equivalent for "aptitude search -F ..." without aptitude?
[01:09] <carbon_> i'm grasping at straws
[01:09] <sadhash> Beldar **
[01:09] <Beldar> sadhash, the user password, not root password, there is no root password.
[01:09] <sadhash> Oh.. For su?
[01:09] <carbon_> my relatives computer failed an os upgrade and i don't have much experience with the ubuntu platform
[01:10] <Beldar> !root | sadhash this explains it, it is a word syntax issue here.
[01:10] <physixer> I replaced 'aptitude' in a script with 'apt-get' or 'apt-cache', both don't work: "Command line option 'F' [from -F] is not known."
[01:10] <sadhash> I didn't know that sorry I'm a recent convert. I can manage most of these ubuntu utilities now but half of what I'm doing is luck
[01:10] <kirmair> q loucura!!
[01:11] <Beldar> carbon_, It is there OS they should have the skills, don't be stressed on their mistakes. ;)
[01:12] <carbon_> it's my grandpa, my uncle got him a linux box (why!?!) and now I need to figure out how to fix the problem
[01:12] <carbon_> i don't have much info so....
[01:12] <sadhash> Beldar, I want to show you what happens. Want me to link pics here?
[01:12] <carbon_> guess i'll try talking to my grandpa again and see if I can figure out the issue he's having
[01:12] <Beldar> sadhash, I doubt I can really help on this.
[01:12] <foo> Trying to set up php5-fpm. I followed this: http://www.howtoforge.com/using-php5-fpm-with-apache2-on-ubuntu-12.04-lts - I did everything, twice, and double checked things from multiple sources. Yet still, I have issues. I'm getting a 500 error with this in logs: [fastcgi:error] [pid 1820:tid<PHONE_NUMBER>02272] (111)Connection refused: FastCGI: failed to connect to server "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/php5-fcgi": connect() failed... followed by: FastCGI: incomplete headers (0
[01:13] <carbon_> thanks for letting me know there is no built in restore though
[01:13] <netlar> Is there a way to keep Conky from hiding when you hide all windows?
[01:13] <foo> Whoops, excuse the repaste:
[01:13] <foo> Trying to set up php5-fpm. I followed this: http://www.howtoforge.com/using-php5-fpm-with-apache2-on-ubuntu-12.04-lts - I did everything, twice, and double checked things from multiple sources. Yet still, I have issues. I'm getting a 500 error with this in logs: [fastcgi:error] [pid 1820:tid<PHONE_NUMBER>02272] (111)Connection refused: FastCGI: failed to connect to server "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/php5-fcgi": connect() failed... followed by: FastCGI: incomplete ...
[01:13] <sadhash> Ok.  Sigh.
[01:13] <foo> ... headers (0 bytes) received from server "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/php5-fcgi" ... any two cents on what I could have wrong? Doesn't make sense.
[01:13] <Beldar> Windows 8 is nice
[01:14] <carbon_> night, or morning, all
[01:14] <netlar> Beldar: Windows 8 is horrible
[01:14] <LostNva> I think he was kidding about windows 8 lol
[01:14] <RoDiMuS-X> Any recommendations on an application to rotate my background every so often Ubuntu 14.04
[01:14]  * Beldar rolls their eyes
[01:15] <netlar> RoDiMuS-X: Wallch
[01:15] <RoDiMuS-X> Thanks netlar
[01:16] <sadhash> I detest windows but they don't sell linux laptops at Walmart
[01:16] <expunge> sadhash: they do actually
[01:17] <nectarys> hi, what's the shortcut to make a search on vim, please?
[01:17] <sadhash> Chromebook doesn't count. That's basically what I'm using.
[01:17] <expunge> nectarys: /foo
[01:17] <expunge> sadhash: sure it does
[01:17] <Beldar> the fan boi count goes up by 2
[01:17] <sadhash> Expunge: I'm on a chromebox right now.
[01:18] <expunge> sadhash: that's nice
[01:18] <sadhash> That's what I can't get working correctly with a full linux distro
[01:18] <nectarys> expunge, thank you !
[01:18] <expunge> sadhash: what doesn't work?
[01:18] <expunge> nectarys: more at #vim
[01:19] <sadhash> Long story short I can't get any gui up and running
[01:19] <sadhash> I'm able to access the command line via ctrl alt f1
[01:19] <sadhash> I get as close as a login screen from gnome but it's not working. At all.
[01:20] <expunge> sadhash: how doesn't it work?
[01:20] <anarkhos> sadhash: any error messages?
[01:20] <sadhash> No error messages.
[01:21] <sadhash> I get to the login screen, type my password and it accepts it then blank
[01:21] <sadhash> Just a grey screen.
[01:21] <expunge> sadhash: black screen?
[01:21] <expunge> gray
[01:21] <sadhash> Not black
[01:21] <expunge> sadhash: no cursor?
[01:21] <laughingtiger> sadhash, reinstall your video driver
[01:21] <sadhash> The mouse icon resembles a cursor
[01:22] <expunge> sadhash: any particular shape?
[01:22] <sadhash> Capital I in times new roman
[01:22] <expunge> can you right click?
[01:22] <sadhash> No. Nothing happens
[01:22]  * laughingtiger slaps himself
[01:23] <expunge> sadhash: what's the graphics device?
[01:23] <sadhash> Intel
[01:23] <sadhash> Haswell architecture integrated
[01:23] <Beldar> mmm the noob trinity
[01:23] <anarkhos> sadhash: when you're at the command-line, type "dmesg" and see if you can find any relevant errors
[01:24] <sadhash> Oh good lord.  " I checked the md5sum and everything was fine
[01:34] <sadhash> I created the liveusb by using dd on the xubuntu 14.04.1 iso I have
[01:35] <samthewildone> How do I enable my bluetooth ?
[01:36] <samthewildone> http://pastebin.com/eePni0RA
[01:37] <samthewildone> !bluetooth
[01:37] <sadhash> Anarkhos, any ideas?
[01:38] <anarkhos> sadhash: im not familiar with creating live usbs in a linux environment. but back to the gnome problem: would you be able to reboot and choose some safe/recovery mode? vesa drivers?
[01:39] <rypervenche> laughingtiger: Please watch your language. We are not here to belittle people.
[01:39] <raleigh> hi
[01:39] <anarkhos> sadhash: see whether it's possible to at least get some very basic manifestation running
[01:39] <sadhash> I can only get command line
[01:39] <raleigh> i would like to run nginx with sudo without a password prompt... how do i do that?
[01:39] <raleigh> i have %sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL)PASSWD:ALL,NOPASSWD:/usr/local/openresty/nginx/sbin/nginx in my sudoers file
[01:40] <laughingtiger> thank you for the tip rypervenche
[01:40] <raleigh> which works when i use the absolute path to run nginx
[01:40] <raleigh> ...but it still prompts for a password otherwise
[01:40] <rypervenche> laughingtiger: 不客氣
[01:40] <laughingtiger> rypervenche: lol
[01:41]  * laughingtiger shakes hands with rypervenche
[01:42] <anarkhos> sadhash: have you tried including for instance "xforcevesa" in the kernel boot command?
[01:42] <sadhash> No. I'm. Kernel boot command is located where?
[01:42] <Guma> I installed 14.04 desktop and only one out of four monotors is detected. I have two dual head nvidia cards. Any one know how to fix this. It used to work under 12.04
[01:43] <wafflejock> raleigh: are you sure you want to be running nginx as an admin
[01:43] <nectarys> how to log into ##channels, please ?
[01:43] <wafflejock> nectarys:  forward slash then channel name
[01:43] <wafflejock> nectarys: rather /join #channelname
[01:43] <raleigh> wafflejock, well i would be ok doing it not as admin if i could use port 80 that way
[01:44] <nectarys> wafflejock, I'm trying to /join  ##channelname, with two '#' but it wouldn't work
[01:44] <anarkhos> sadhash: /boot/grub probably, but you may be able to temprarily edit the boot code from the xubuntu screen you get before the os is really started
[01:44] <wafflejock> raleigh: yeah I think you use the service app to start and stop nginx as sudo but typically with apache (start and stop the service the same way) it runs as a different user so you can restrict privileges of the server
[01:44] <nectarys> wafflejock, I can join it, but I cannot post into it
[01:44] <anarkhos> sadhash: im not familiar with how exactly xubuntu is, but when you power on the computer, do you get a menu?
[01:45] <nectarys> wafflejock, I think that I need to log into
[01:45] <wafflejock> nectarys: yeah some of the IRC chats require that you're logged in and have a registered nick
[01:45] <anarkhos> sadhash: a menu with alternatives (F1 for help, ...F4 for modes etc.)?
[01:45] <nectarys> wafflejock, how to deal with that, please ?
[01:45] <wafflejock> nectarys: typically there are some instructions in the chat when you try to join explaining how to register, but I'm no IRC expert
[01:46] <rh1n0> Norman, OK, US: Fair, 88ºF Humidity: 40% Visibility: 6 mi Pressure: 29.88 in Wind: North-northeast @ 10 mph
[01:46] <sadhash> I can get grub open
[01:46] <JWommack> nectarys /msg Nickserv help register
[01:46] <nectarys> wafflejock, okay thank you
[01:46] <sadhash> But yes
[01:46] <rh1n0> "hello"
[01:47] <sl1nky> http://www.oliverio.eti.br/
[01:48] <wafflejock> raleigh: this may help https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-nginx-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[01:48] <sadhash> Anarkhos: I'm going to run one of the scanning utilities from recovery mode, then I'll come back
[01:48] <anarkhos> sadhash: "<sadhash> I can get grub open" - you're able to edit the boot command before xubuntu is loaded?
[01:49] <anarkhos> ok
[01:49] <sadhash> I should be able to but I'm not very familiar with vi
[01:49] <sadhash> It's offering to run fsck so I'm letting that go
[01:50] <wafflejock> Guma: have you checked the display settings also you may want to check what graphics card and drivers are installed with, lspci -k
[01:50] <wafflejock> sadhash: nano I think has a simpler learning curve since there's no modes it's more like a regular notepad app
[01:50] <raleigh> wafflejock, well i'm using openresty not stock nginx
[01:50] <sadhash> Okay I will try nano
[01:50] <JWommack> gedit even more so
[01:50] <wafflejock> sadhash: the commands in nano are shown on the bottom of the screen, Ctrl+O to write it out and Ctrl+X to close
[01:51] <sadhash> Oh nice
[01:51] <raleigh> wafflejock, so there isn't an init.d script for nginx
[01:51] <wafflejock> raleigh: hmm not familiar with that
[01:51] <raleigh> yeah it's apparently kind of obscrure
[01:52] <wafflejock> raleigh: just a test local server right?
[01:52] <rypervenche> raleigh: It's just a bundle of most of the 3rd party modules and nginx. It IS nginx, but just with everything compiled in.
[01:52] <wafflejock> raleigh: if it's a production/live server I would be more cautious for sure about running the server as root/admin
[01:53] <rypervenche> raleigh: Also, unless you need all of those modules and are expecting 10,000+ connections, I would stick with nginx.
[01:54] <raleigh> i need those modules
[01:54] <raleigh> and i need admin to be on port 80
[01:54] <raleigh> correct?
[01:54] <raleigh> i have it working on 8080
[01:54] <jcbjoe> how is ubuntu on a laptop and does it get good batery life ?
[01:55] <mguy> jcbjoe: I have good luck with them on Lenovo
[01:55] <anarkhos> it seemed good on a laptop earlier tonight, but i didn't test it for very long
[01:55] <JWommack> Better if you don't use chrome
[01:55] <sadhash> I will tell you later tonight. If I can get a laptop without uefi
[01:55] <jcbjoe> mguy: how much battery time ?
[01:55] <jcbjoe> sadhash: yea lol
[01:55] <wafflejock> raleigh: shouldn't need admin to use port 80 apache runs as the www-data user and binds to 80
[01:55] <mguy> jcbjoe: 4-5 hours but my battery isn't the extended one
[01:55] <jcbjoe> sadhash: most are windows 8 now days
[01:56] <Guma> wafflejock: what should I look for and how can I change it
[01:56] <wafflejock> Guma: I'm running Ubuntu Gnome so I can't guide you directly but wondering what you see when you check out the display settings, does it show you just the one monitor?
[01:56] <JWommack> You can disable the uefi sadhash, it's what I did on my work laptop and I have it running 8 and 14.04
[01:56] <JWommack> windows 8 that is
[01:56] <Guma> wafflejock: yes
[01:57] <sadhash> Oh
[01:57] <wafflejock> Guma: if you use the lspci -k command in the command line look for VGA to see your graphics card info
[01:57] <Guma> I am running unity. Jsut default install
[01:57] <jcbjoe> JWommack: battery time ?
[01:57] <Guma> But I did install NVidia prop drivers from panel
[01:57] <sadhash> Jwommack: thanks.
[01:57] <wafflejock> Guma: k that helps to know, hit the dash/winkey button and type terminal, then lspci -k
[01:57] <JWommack> Battery time isn't bad, the biggest thing that changes battery time though is what you're using and that's the case in either OS
[01:57] <wafflejock> Guma: that'll list all your main hardware components with the kernel driver that's loaded for it
[01:57] <drewjo> do you guys write programs in ubuntu
[01:57] <wafflejock> drewjo: I do web dev
[01:58] <wafflejock> drewjo: occasionally I poke at some of the source of built in stuff
[01:58] <drewjo> ok
[01:58] <JWommack> Chrome, for example, currently has a bug that eats through batter life, which is a pain since it's the best to develop frontends in
[01:58] <wafflejock> drewjo: would like to start contributing back eventually
[01:58] <wafflejock> turns out Gnome themes use CSS
[01:58] <drewjo> cool
[01:58] <wafflejock> so I can easily jump in there but they are already pretty nice IMO :)
[01:59] <Guma> wafflejock: Ok I did grep for nvidia and I see two cards
[01:59] <Guma> GForce GT 610
[02:00] <wafflejock> Guma: okay so there is the option of open source drivers and closed source drivers with NVidia stuff, generally it's recommended to stick with the open source stuff since you get updated automatically and it's tested by repo maintainers but we should see what you have now and go from there
[02:00] <wafflejock> Guma: can you actuall pastebin the output of the lcpci command?
[02:01] <wafflejock> jcbjoe: this isn't really as dependent on the OS as it is the hardware you have
[02:01] <wafflejock> jcbjoe: backlights eat a lot of power and depends on your CPU
[02:01] <Guma> wafflejock: yes. One sec
[02:02] <wafflejock> jcbjoe: lower speed CPUs tend to use less Watts too and so it really varies a lot based on what you're doing and what you have
[02:02] <Cordel> Guys, I installed VMware tools on UBuntu..... How the hell do I open the control panel to use it?
[02:02] <wafflejock> jcbjoe: seems like on my laptop I get close to the same time or a little more in Ubuntu compared to Windows but like I said it's hard to say cause it depends on how you're using it
[02:02] <timevirus> yo
[02:03] <Cordel> Anyone know how to use VMware tools on Ubuntu?
[02:03] <Guma> wafflejock: pastebin.com/dJtsBXCR
[02:03] <wafflejock> jcbjoe: check out powertop if you're interested in what is taking power top
[02:03] <TimeVIrus> .
[02:04] <wafflejock> jcbjoe: powertop*
[02:04] <wafflejock> Guma: dual 610 SLI card?
[02:04] <Beldar> Cordel, they do in #vmware
[02:05] <Guma> It is dual. But they are not connected.
[02:05] <Guma> Well I do not think so
[02:05] <Guma> Would that matter?
[02:05] <Guma> let me see if SLI is connected
[02:05] <rypervenche> wafflejock: By the way, Apache needs root privileges to be able to work on port 80, the main Apache process is run as root.
[02:06] <wafflejock> Guma: yeah for SLI they split the load of rendering the screen between the two cards but needs that bridge part to keep them in sync I think, not sure that it matters regarding the extra displays showing up though
[02:06] <Guma> wafflejock: nop. I do not think they support SLI. They are fanless and no SLI connected cable between them
[02:06] <Guma> I just opened the box
[02:07] <wafflejock> rypervenche: hmm strange I didn't know that, thought since the owner of www folder or execute bit privileges were related to the www-data user and the processes I noticed from apache were running as www-data that none of it was actually running as root
[02:08] <raleigh> i think it's pretty normal to use sudo to run http servers?
[02:08] <rypervenche> wafflejock: The main apache process is run as root, its other processes are run as www-data though. But yeah.
[02:08] <raleigh> if there is no init.d script
[02:10] <jcbjoe> wafflejock: ever with powertop do you still get the same time ? cause i heard powertop disables things that are killing your battery
[02:11] <uhhh> wafflejock: hey, r8168-dkms did the trick, no d/c's yet
[02:11] <uhhh> \o/
[02:11] <wafflejock> rypervenche: ah indeed interesting I just never noticed that other process running as root
[02:11] <wafflejock> uhhh: awesome glad to hear it
[02:11] <Cordel> Can someone please tell me how to run VMWare tools in Ubuntu
[02:12] <cfhowlett> !vmware
[02:12] <Guma> wafflejock: Can they be in SLI with out SLI cable between them?
[02:12] <Cordel> I installed the damn thing I just need to know how to run it
[02:13] <sajan> wafflejock,
[02:13] <wafflejock> Guma: don't think so but I only have one GTX630 in my desktop... only use it for gaming here or there though, my laptop has Intel HD 4000 which is so so
[02:13] <wafflejock> sajan: hey got some food in me now
[02:13] <wafflejock> Guma: did you use lspci -k
[02:13] <wafflejock> with the -k on that pastebin
[02:13] <wafflejock> didn't notice the actual driver loaded there think it might have been left off
[02:13] <cfhowlett> Cordel, as it's neither ubuntu nor FOSS, I suggest you seek support directly from vmware.
[02:13] <Guma> wafflejock: paste bin is with -k
[02:14] <wafflejock> Guma: oh sorry I just overlooked them somehow just pulled it back up
[02:16] <wafflejock> Guma: alright so it looks like you have the regular nvidia driver built into the kernel you can try the nouveau driver if you'd like (I think this is the recommended way I've seen from others in the chat here for Nvidia stuff) or there's some other instructions here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/451221/ubuntu-14-04-install-nvidia-driver
[02:17] <wafflejock> Guma: you may want to check out nomodeset option you can use during boot in case something goes wrong while you're trying out possible fixes for the graphics drivers
[02:18] <wafflejock> !nomodeset > Guma
[02:19] <wafflejock> Guma: also if none of the open source stuff that you'll get automatic updates on works you can manually install from the nvidia site but at that point it's out of the open source community hands to help with really http://www.geforce.com/drivers
[02:19] <Basketball> CAN YOU install uefi on a bios based computer  and if so what are the advantages
[02:20] <drewjo> Basketball, you can't install uefi
[02:20] <drewjo> uefi comes with your motherboard or it doesn't
[02:20] <drewjo> you can't add it later
[02:20] <Basketball> drewjo,  ok then can i add scheduled boot to computer if it isnt an option in bios
[02:21] <drewjo> don't think so unless you update your bios
[02:21] <Basketball> drewjo,  i have the latest bios for my laptop from hp
[02:21] <Guma> wafflejock: TX
[02:21] <wafflejock> Guma: np good luck sounds like a nice setup when it's working, I've got a lowly 2 monitors :)
[02:21] <Guma> wafflejock: I am running nvidia now. I might do the other and switch to opensource
[02:23] <wafflejock> Guma: oh that's actually the proprietary driver right now? thought it would have the version number in there figured that was just the vanilla included module
[02:24] <Basketball> it is a hp dv6243cl drewjo
[02:24] <triplc> hi all
[02:25] <triplc>  please recommend an encryption (like truecrypt, which is unmaintained now) which work in both Ubuntu and Windoze?
[02:25] <Neurome> could anybody possible help me out
[02:26] <Cordel> no wonder people dont use ubuntu
[02:26] <Neurome> im trying to get streamtuner2 , or streamripstar working in ubuntu
[02:26] <Cordel> can not get a simple question answered
[02:27] <kostkon> Neurome, what's the problem exactly
[02:27] <mish> Cordel: http://constantmayhem.com/ty-stuff/linuxsurvey/2013/Primary%20Non-server%20Distros%20Percent.png
[02:28] <TimeVIrus> I'm trying to remember a command xdg-open to 'ask' the file manager to open a file using default program is xdg-open the right command?
[02:28] <kostkon> TimeVIrus, yes
[02:28] <Neurome> Kostkon, well i have mint on another box, Linux mint, and streamripstar works great for playing, and recording on that box, i got a .jar version of it on this ubuntu box im currently on, even though i installed java jdk, streamripper and gstreamer its not funtioning
[02:28] <TimeVIrus> thanks
[02:29] <x_root> hello, ubuntu do any log when starts a session?
[02:29] <x_root> or i have to "force" it to do? like..
[02:30] <Basketball> drewjo,
[02:30] <x_root> after a few uses of gnome, when i tried to use unity the wallpaper was not loading..
[02:30] <wafflejock> Cordel: software support for closed systems can expect to be supported by the community that's all
[02:30] <wafflejock> can't*
[02:31] <kostkon> Neurome, are you getting any error messages, when you run it, e.g.   java -jar app_name.jar
[02:31] <Basketball> kostkon,  do you know
[02:31] <x_root> after i change from lightdm to gdm "nothing" load.. (the programs open, and i can see the environment and all.. but no unity, no dock/dash, no systray... nothing.. jsut the programs, the top bar of the program and "all the black" behind it..)
[02:31] <kostkon> x_root, .xsession-errors is one
[02:31] <kostkon> x_root, other logs in /var/log
[02:32] <kostkon> Basketball, know what
[02:32] <x_root> kostkon, i'll try to read now (to see if i can find the last unity session).. thanks :)
[02:32] <Basketball> kostkon,  how do i schedule boot and shutdown if there is not a bios option i have a hp dv6243cl
[02:33] <kostkon> Basketball, you mean something like wol? wake on lan?
[02:33] <wafflejock> ^ that's the only thing I could think of too but gets more complicated
[02:33] <wafflejock> need another machine running that can send the wakeup signal
[02:34] <kostkon> wafflejock, yeah
[02:34] <kostkon> wafflejock, actually, i think there's another way
[02:35] <kostkon> wafflejock, something to do with acpi
[02:36] <nectarys> how to track ip addresses on linux ?
[02:36] <wafflejock> this is pretty nifty https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.benfinnigan.wol&hl=en doesn't seem to have a scheduler though
[02:36] <wafflejock> nectarys: you want the LAN ip info?
[02:36] <Neurome> Kostkon, Yes well i tried running it two ways, through the CLI and the GUI, StreamRipStar-0.6.8.jar, right click 'open with OpenJDK Java 7 Runtime' then i get : ERROR "It seems you don't have gstreamer installed. Please install the latest gstreamer or use an extern player to listen to the stream Error looking up function 'gst_date_get_type': /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgstreamer-1.0.so:...
[02:36] <Neurome> ...undefined symbol: gst_date_get_type"
[02:36] <kostkon> wafflejock, rtc_wakeup
[02:37] <wafflejock> kostkon: cool never heard of that
[02:38] <rypervenche> nectarys: tcpdump always works well. Where do you want to track it from? Is it a web server connection or something like that?
[02:40] <wafflejock> Neurome: have you installed gstreamer from the software center or otherwise?
[02:42] <kostkon> Neurome, are you on a 64bit installation?
[02:42] <Neurome> Kostkon, I get the error either way through (CLI & GUI) i then manually set under the preferences in streamripstar to where i found the gstreamer player after doing a quick search '/usr/share/doc' 'libgstreamer-1.0 ...The error goes away but then i get another error
[02:43] <Neurome> yes i installed streamripper and gstreamer
[02:43] <kostkon> Basketball, you could try this https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/wakeup/
[02:43] <kostkon> Neurome, you could try installing the 32bit gstreamer libs
[02:44] <Cordel> anyone here use VMware tools?
[02:44] <Cordel> Anyone?
[02:44] <kostkon> Neurome, something along the lines of  sudo apt-get install package_name:i386
[02:44] <cfhowlett> Neurome, I'd suggest you install *all* the available multimedia codecs: sudo apt-get install #ubuntu
[02:44] <ecksit> hey, does anyone have any experience with ubuntu and ufw?
[02:45] <ecksit> i have added a rule using ansbible but my other machine cannot connect to it/
[02:45] <Guest89962> oi gente!!!
[02:46] <Neurome> kostkon, im running ubuntu 14.04 LTS, 32 bit version
[02:46] <ecksit> this is my ufw setup - https://gist.github.com/jacobbednarz/cac79f357594afb1b78c
[02:46] <cfhowlett> !ufw | ecksit,
[02:47] <kostkon> Neurome, oh then probably that app is looking for gstreamer 0.10 instead of 1.x
[02:47] <Neurome> i installed both version
[02:47] <Neurome> i believe
[02:47] <Cordel> Guys, WHy does Ubuntu video lag when installed on a virtual machine?
[02:47] <kostkon> Neurome, hmm
[02:47] <wafflejock> Cordel: you install the virtual box drivers/extensions?
[02:47] <cfhowlett> Neurome, I'd suggest getting all the available multimedia codecs.  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras                    for good measure, install vlcplayer as well
[02:47] <Cordel> no what is that?
[02:48] <Neurome> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-tools gstreamer-tools gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
[02:48] <cfhowlett> Cordel, because the virtual gpu is not the native/physical gpu
[02:48] <Neurome> from the official ppa
[02:48] <Cordel> what Specifically do I need to download?
[02:48] <Neurome> & i also have vlcplayer
[02:48] <wafflejock> Cordel: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms
[02:49] <wafflejock> Cordel: I did a video here on setting up an environment from scratch around 15:00 in I install the virtualbox guest extensions to fix the video integration and performance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQNbsCTFrAA
[02:49] <wafflejock> Cordel: should just be that command though
[02:50] <Cordel> i am running it now
[02:51] <Cordel> What do I need to do after It is ran?
[02:51] <wafflejock> Cordel: just reboot the virtual machine, in the video I shut it down and tweaked the settings to give it more video ram to work with too
[02:52] <ecksit> cfhowlett: i've checked that out and the rule appears to be working but it just doesn't allow the connection
[02:52] <kostkon> Neurome, what's the error yo uare getting now
[02:52] <bluefox83> i can't boot directly into any ubuntu kernel available in 14.04. I have to boot into an old kernel version, via the repair feature, then tell it to resume...
[02:52] <ecksit> cfhowlett: could it be due to having multiple rules and conflicting?
[02:53] <cfhowlett> ecksit, *NOT* an expert or especially knowledgeable but yes, check those rules for conflicts.  Also, could you have a router block?
[02:53] <bluefox83> i didn't have that problem a week ago...although i've had problems with 14.04 kernels before
[02:53] <ecksit> cfhowlett: don't think i have a router block as it previously worked.
[02:54] <cfhowlett> ecksit, good.  confirm your rules then.  be aware of any wildcard settings, e.g. twit*
[02:56] <Beldar> bluefox83, Any broken or held packages in apt-get updates or upgrades?
[02:56] <bluefox83> Beldar: let me check real fast
[02:57] <kostkon> bluefox83, is it a laptop
[02:57] <bluefox83> Beldar: yeah, i'm updating now
[02:57] <bluefox83> kostkon: yep
[02:58] <bluefox83> samsung laptop, and google doesn't have anything newer about a similar problem since march D:
[02:58] <kostkon> bluefox83, try turning it off, not suspending and then obvisouly turn it back on after waiting for a couple of mins
[02:58] <bluefox83> kostkon: er...i am actually using right now
[02:58] <Neurome> kostkon, when i manually set gstreamer1.0 folder most similar to what i received in the error, upon opening i don't get a gstreamer error when setting the customized location but with version 0.10 no error , not playing nothing
[02:58] <bluefox83> i just had to go through the repair feature, then click the resume option
[02:59] <kostkon> bluefox83, yeah. i mean instead of rebooting, i'm assuming that was going to be your next step, turn it off instead
[02:59] <bluefox83> kostkon: my power button doesn't reboot, it's just on and off...i've turned it off several times
[03:00] <kostkon> bluefox83, oh ok then
[03:00] <bluefox83> i have to boot into a 3.8 kernel because the 3.11 ones don't work :/
[03:00] <bluefox83> they just hang at the loading ramdisk or whatever
[03:00] <bluefox83> loading initial ramdisk
[03:01] <bluefox83> and googling that is completely useless
[03:01] <Neurome> is there somehow a way to build an ubuntu installer off my linux mint box
[03:02] <cfhowlett> !customization | Neurome
[03:02] <bluefox83> all it does is bring up the same junk about how using efi can brick a samsung laptop4
[03:03] <Beldar> bluefox83, 3.13 is the latest 14.04 kernels, try running sudo apt-get -f install;sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    copy and paste the whole command
[03:03] <cfhowlett> !uck | Neurome
[03:04] <netlar> Are there any big issues with installing 14.04 on a MacBook Pro?
[03:04] <ki7mt> netlar, Here's a good resource page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[03:05] <Neurome> cfhowlett, wouldn't i need to reinstall the whole os ?
[03:06] <cfhowlett> Neurome, never used it, but as I understand it, at some you extract your installed OS, i.e. no need to reinstall
[03:06] <bluefox83> Beldar: apparently 3.13 is already installed and is among the broken kernels :(
[03:06] <cfhowlett> !mac | netlar
[03:06] <Neurome> netlar, you could get a usb or live cd and boot off the live cd to do a test run on your mac book pro
[03:06] <Beldar> bluefox83, Do you have a boot partition?
[03:07] <bluefox83> Beldar: /boot/efi
[03:07] <Guma> wafflejock: switching to software enable another monitor. I see three in display panel. but when enabling third I get error.
[03:07] <wafflejock> Guma: CRTC something error ?
[03:07] <Beldar> bluefox83, Can you pastebin the running of sudo apt-get -f install
[03:07] <Guma> Also n reboot Before I get to desktop I see error
[03:07] <bluefox83> Beldar: when i run "mount" it spits out a /dev/sda1 on /boot/efi type vfat
[03:07] <Guma> Could not switch the monitor configuration
[03:08] <Guma> "could nit se the configuration for CRTC 63
[03:08] <wafflejock> Guma: hmm interesting I get that with a third monitor too but was a problem in 12.04 too, think KDE dodged this error but still wouldn't let me use 3 monitors
[03:08] <bluefox83> Beldar: it just says there are some generic linux headers that are no longer needed
[03:08] <wafflejock> Guma: I figured it was just a Intel chipset/driver issue but maybe somewhere else in the system
[03:09] <wafflejock> Guma: think I get CTRC 65 error or something related
[03:09] <Guma> I am ctually thinking about installing Xubuntu with xFCE. So this would be same problem?
[03:09] <Vampire-Bill> ok virtual box no go for the last two hours 14.04 it will not let me install os in just keeps going back to install screen
[03:09] <Beldar> bluefox83, Is you definition of broken is they don;t work or from the terminal?
[03:09] <wafflejock> Guma: not sure really I only really use the 2 desktop monitors anyhow so having the third disabled isn't a problem for me but not sure what the underlying issue is
[03:10] <netlar> Neurome: thanks
[03:10] <cfhowlett> Guma, easy enough to test:  sudo apt-get install xfce4             logout/choose xfce session/login
[03:10] <cfhowlett> Guma, if you like that sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop for the full meal deal and clean-up with !purexubuntu
[03:11] <Beldar> bluefox83, Broken has a specific meaning in other words, the terminal will say this, just trying to get on the same page.
[03:11] <bluefox83> Beldar: what do you mean?
[03:12] <Neurome> netlar, ~Por Nada~ !
[03:12] <bluefox83> Beldar: what i mean by broken kernels is they wont boot past "loading initial ramdisk"
[03:12] <bluefox83> Beldar: even in recovery
[03:12] <Bashing-om> !purelubuntu | Guma
[03:13] <Dr_Kabuki> Anyone know of an ubuntu based distro that uses openbox?
[03:13] <Beldar> bluefox83, Careful with the word broken, it has specific meanings a package can be actually broken, not just your definition.
[03:14] <cfhowlett> !openbox
[03:14] <bluefox83> Beldar: ok...but any idea what the problem is?
[03:14] <Beldar> bluefox83, This was an upgrade correct?
[03:15] <Beldar> you upgraded to 14.04 from something, what?
[03:15] <bluefox83> Beldar: yes, and unfortunately I am unable to get the 14.04 image to boot from my usb installer
[03:15] <bluefox83> Beldar: 13.10
[03:16] <Dr_Kabuki> What did you use to make the live USB?
[03:16] <Beldar> bluefox83, When?
[03:16] <bluefox83> eh...like in june?
[03:16] <Neurome> Can anybody help me get streamripstar running : O
[03:16] <bluefox83> Dr_Kabuki: the default usblive maker thing in 13.10
[03:17] <netlar> Is it dumb to feel weird about getting mint or elemetary, cuase it is just copying the base of ubuntu?
[03:17] <Beldar> bluefox83, Any errors when you did?
[03:17] <bluefox83> no, got the same black screen
[03:18] <Guma> ubottu: I will just reinstall fresh. It would be easy. I jsut did backup my home folder
[03:18] <bluefox83> or purple, with the loading screen thing
[03:18] <Guma> opps :) crap
[03:18] <Beldar> bluefox83, How is this related to the  "loading initial ramdisk"?
[03:18] <Guma> talking to bot :) I must be drinking
[03:18] <bluefox83> Beldar: i get the same thing when trying to install from the usb drive
[03:18] <Dr_Kabuki> bluefox83: If you have access to a windows machine, theres a great tool called Rufus to make live USB media with
[03:19] <netlar> I know Ubuntu is a debian base, but just a copy of a copy of a copy, rather have the original
[03:19] <bluefox83> Dr_Kabuki: while i do have access...i'd really rather saw my own face off than use it
[03:19] <Dr_Kabuki> Lol
[03:20] <bluefox83> this has gotten waaaay out of hand honestly
[03:20] <bluefox83> it got bad, then it got to the point where i almost couldn't boot anything...i dunno what i should do now :/
[03:20] <Dr_Kabuki> More troubleshooting, is the USB drive plugged into a 2.0 or 3.0 port?
[03:20] <bluefox83> i'm even considering i've tried both
[03:20] <bluefox83> er..lol
[03:20] <bluefox83> i've tried both 2.0 and 3.0
[03:21] <bluefox83> same result
[03:21] <Dr_Kabuki> There's a bunch of things that can make this happen so I'm just running down the list
[03:21] <owen1> my laptop suspends every few minutes despite settings it to 'never'. any tips?
[03:21] <Dr_Kabuki> owen1, what ubuntu version?
[03:22] <bluefox83> Dr_Kabuki: i'm not really worried about the installer. I'm more concerned with making my system readily bootable again
[03:22] <owen1> Dr_Kabuki: 14.04
[03:22] <bluefox83> instead of having to go through the trouble of selecting advanced options, then selecting the right kernel in recovery mode
[03:23] <Vampire-Bill> ok no vm help what about an app that you now works in 14.04 to run android os in thank you
[03:24] <Dr_Kabuki> bluefox83, What happens as of now when you try to boot the system?
[03:24] <Beldar> bluefox83, I think this has to do with the uefi stuff and setups and nvidia drivers possibly, I would use the ubuntu forums as well, there are a few people there that are focused on thses dual boots, for example, this mod, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2132581
[03:24] <bluefox83> Beldar: i'm using radeon >.>
[03:25] <Beldar> bluefox83, sure that is just one outlier
[03:25] <bluefox83> Dr_Kabuki: it goes to a screen that says "loading inital ramdisk" and that's all
[03:25] <Dr_Kabuki> owen1, did you do any serious modifications to the system or is it basically vanilla?
[03:25] <bluefox83> it will sit there forever DL:
[03:25] <bluefox83> D:
[03:26] <Neurome> bluefox83, you could try booting off some other version of linux on a boot disk, and if theres no issue it would have to be software, if the bootdisk (whatever distro) has a great deal of problems you'd know its a hardware issue *most probable*
[03:27] <owen1> Dr_Kabuki: vanilla, but i don't use unity. i chose 'i3' window manager in the session window.
[03:28] <bluefox83> Neurome: it was working a week ago just fine, then i did a system update and it lost my video settings (i use a tv hooked to my laptop sometimes) so i tried reinstalling the video drivers, but that just really broke it D:
[03:28] <owen1> Dr_Kabuki: btw, i don't know if it's called 'suspend'. the screen turns black.
[03:28] <owen1> and i move the mouse a bit to bring it back. it takes a second.
[03:29] <Neurome> bluefox83, when you say tv hooked to your laptop, do you mean dual display and how is it hooked up? hdmi ?
[03:29] <bluefox83> Neurome: hdmi, i just clone the laptop display
[03:30] <bluefox83> with the amd catalyst software
[03:30] <owen1> Dr_Kabuki: maybe it's related to dpms bug? https://faq.i3wm.org/question/2134/screen-turns-black/
[03:30] <bluefox83> i had it set up so i could turn my laptop on, and it would boot straight to ubuntu login, i'd login and it would automatically clone the screen
[03:30] <Dr_Kabuki> If the screen just turns black, it likely isn't suspending
[03:31] <bluefox83> then i did a system update and it all turned to crap D:
[03:31] <owen1> Dr_Kabuki: i'll try running xset -dpms
[03:31] <Neurome> bluefox83, id safe the safest and surest thing to do is make backups of all the valuable digital data on your computer, and do a clean install
[03:31] <bluefox83> Neurome: can't. the installer doesn't work :/
[03:31] <bluefox83> i had to do an upgrade from 13.10
[03:32] <Neurome> cause you never know what kinda software, permission conflict , there could be
[03:32] <trololololo> I AM HERE TO PISS YOU OFF
[03:32] <Neurome> installer not working ?
[03:32] <trololololo> YOUR OPERATING SYSTEM IS SHITTY
[03:32] <trololololo> CANONICAL IS SHITTY
[03:32] <cfhowlett> !ops | trololololo, ban this fool
[03:32] <Basketball> if i dont have a schedule boot option in bios will http://sourceforge.net/projects/nvram-wakeup/ work
[03:32] <trololololo> hfjdkshfjskaldfhdasjklfh
[03:32] <kostkon> trololololo, you again...
[03:32] <trololololo> what
[03:32] <trololololo> this is my first time ehre
[03:32] <trololololo> here
[03:32] <trololololo> lol
[03:32] <Basketball> !ops |trolololol
[03:33] <kostkon> 2nd time..
[03:33] <phunyguy> WE GOT IT THE FIRST TIME.
[03:33] <cfhowlett> phunyguy, tyvm
[03:33]  * bluefox83 facepalms
[03:33] <Neurome> bluefox83, get yumi multiboot disk usb creator
[03:33] <Neurome> the official site is here: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[03:34] <bluefox83> Neurome: the hell do i need a multiboot disk creator for? i don't have windows on this machine O.o
[03:34] <Neurome> you dont' have access to any windows machine ?
[03:34] <bluefox83> i have access, i prefer not to use them
[03:35] <Neurome> the library, school , a friends
[03:35] <Neurome> bluefox83, id suggest to use that tool and put 2 or 3 different versions of *nix on it that you like
[03:35] <rypervenche> I personally set up my own grub2 multiboot USB drive. :)
[03:36] <bluefox83> Neurome: i would prefer just using ubuntu as i don't have time to screw around with anything else
[03:36] <Neurome> bluefox83, Then if the issue/problem youre having on your box is software, you'd have no issue booting into the boot usb drive
[03:36] <bluefox83> i feel like i'm in a windows forum, the advice is the same, format and reinstall D:
[03:36] <Neurome> because the BIOS bypasses the harddrive
[03:37] <bluefox83> Neurome: i'm fairly certain the issue is with uefi + the kernel
[03:38] <bluefox83> starting to wonder if i shouldn't just compile my own dang kernel D:
[03:38] <Neurome> either way you're having difficulty operating on the malfunctioning box, booting into a boot disk will make the box more manageable
[03:39] <Dr_Kabuki> I don't think that will help...
[03:39] <bluefox83> no it wont
[03:39] <Neurome> then you'd be able to change , delete any of the files
[03:39] <[Uber]> why was I banned yesterday
[03:39] <Basketball> my /var/log/kern.log* files contains the text RTC can wake from S4    how can i set up wake at 6 am shutdown and 7 am then wake up at 3 pm and shut down at midnight
[03:39] <Neurome> replace the video drivers with older ones
[03:39] <Basketball> and repeat on weekdays
[03:39] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | [Uber] misbehavior.  you're here today.  act better.
[03:40] <[Uber]> how did I misbehave..
[03:40] <bluefox83> actually i compiled the latest betas for this kernel and it's working
[03:40] <[Uber]> I said that the spammers didn't seem to like yo uguys
[03:40] <[Uber]> and got banned
[03:40] <Neurome> bluefox83, did you even try disconnecting the hdmi and turning the computer on without the external monitor plugged in?
[03:40] <bluefox83> but if i try to boot into it without going through the recovery thing first, it fails
[03:40] <bluefox83> Neurome: i'm not retarded...yes
[03:40] <Neurome> heh : ) doesn't hurt to ask
[03:41] <bluefox83> sorry i've been up since 4:30am and it's now 11:41pm
[03:41] <cfhowlett> [Uber], read the guidelines.  follow them.  topic of this channel is ubuntu support.  ask your ubuntu questions.
[03:43] <bluefox83> i'ma try to start up the latest kernel...and if that doesn't work i'm going to explode >.>
[03:47] <phunyguy> _Uber:  I saw that happen, I think there may have been a misunderstanding, can you join #ubuntu-ops to discuss?
[03:47] <_Uber> I don't really mind now, tbg.
[03:47] <_Uber> tbh*
[03:57] <Neurome> hm
[03:58] <Neurome> anybody there ?
[03:59] <cfhowlett> Neurome, ask your ubuntu questions
[04:01] <Neurome> i can't get streamtuner2 working or streamripstar working
[04:01] <Basketball> how can i set up wake at 6 am suspend and 7 am then wake up at 3 pm and suspend at midnight and repeat every weekday
[04:02] <Neurome> Task scheduling
[04:03] <Basketball> how neunon
[04:03] <Basketball> Neurome,
[04:03] <expunge> Basketball: some BIOSes allow scheduled wakes
[04:03] <expunge> Basketball: suspend you can schedule from the OS
[04:04] <expunge> with cron
[04:04] <Basketball> expunge,  mine allows from hibernation or suspend
[04:04] <expunge> Basketball: hrmm?
[04:04] <Basketball> how do i set it up step by step in ubuntu 12.04
[04:04] <Neurome> cfhowlett, why wont streamtuner 2 play anything ?
[04:05] <expunge> Basketball: first check if your BIOS can schedule a wakeup
[04:05] <cfhowlett> Neurome, never used it, don't know anything about it.
[04:05] <Neurome> ugh
[04:05] <expunge> Basketball: if not you might need an extra computer to send it a signal
[04:05] <Basketball> expunge,  imy /var/log/kern.log* files contains the text RTC can wake from S4  which means from wake and susp[end
[04:11] <Neurome> Basketball, look into task scheduling & task automation thats what your looking for
[04:12] <Basketball> in gnome schedule what is weekday 1
[04:13] <Neurome> that maybe helps
[04:13] <Neurome> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[04:15] <expunge> man 5 crontab
[04:15] <Basketball> can someone type the commands for me i dont want to screw up my computer
[04:16] <Basketball> monday - friday i want to suspend at midnight  suspend at 6 amand wake at 3 pm
[04:18] <wheatthin> Basketball, there is a graphical chrontab you can program
[04:19] <ki7mt> I think cron requires an active sys-clock, maybe a second system + cron and wake-on-lan or something would be more appropriate.
[04:24] <Neurome> ki7mt
[04:24] <Basketball> expunge,  what is the command to ask to suspend and auto suspend if no reply in 60 sec
[04:24] <Neurome> he would have to setup one computer has a server and desired computer as client to that computer to get commands
[04:25] <Neurome> which just isn't really practical
[04:25] <expunge> Basketball: wha?
[04:25] <expunge> it is if you have a low power computer running your home
[04:25] <expunge> which is the future =)
[04:25] <Neurome> unless you
[04:25] <kostkon> Basketball, man rtcwake
[04:25] <Neurome> you're working at a school or some other corporation
[04:25] <Basketball> you know how when yyou press the shutdown button if you dont select a option in 60 seconds it auto shutsdown what is the command to suspend
[04:25] <Basketball> like that
[04:27] <wheatthin> Basketball, maybe look into the "shutdown" options
[04:27] <Basketball> ok i wrote my crontab command where do i put it
[04:27] <Neurome> expunge if the computers don't crash before than because some far away star died and let out an electromagnetic wave thats been on course in our direction for like 1 million years
[04:27] <expunge> Basketball: why would you wake something up if you didn't want to use it?
[04:27] <Neurome> : )
[04:27] <expunge> Neurome: yup
[04:28] <Basketball> expunge,  what you mean
[04:28] <Neurome> Basketball i found that link after 10 seconds using google
[04:28] <kostkon> Basketball, there's wakeonplan https://launchpad.net/wakeonplan but only for older versions at the moment. The dev is currently porting it to qml. you could  grab an older version from its ppa, but i don't know
[04:28] <Neurome> im sure you could find where to put it using google
[04:28] <wheatthin> Basketball, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813387
[04:31] <Basketball> what is the command to wake from cmmand line
[04:32] <expunge> Basketball: another computer on the network?
[04:32] <expunge> or are you talking about that rtc stuff?
[04:32] <kostkon> Basketball, setup a rtc alarm?
[04:32] <Basketball> expunge,  no my computer can wake from suspend or hibernate by its self
[04:32] <kostkon> Basketball, man rtcwake
[04:32] <Basketball> how do i have a cron to wake at 3:00
[04:33] <cxmu> i got a friend in jesus
[04:33] <kostkon> cxmu, what?
[04:34] <cxmu> well i don't know why i cam here tonight
[04:34] <cxmu> i got the feeling something ain't right
[04:34] <expunge> ...
[04:34] <kostkon> cxmu, stay here and you may find out eventually
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:35] <cxmu> drove my chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
[04:35] <cxmu> i wonder what that lyric actually means
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> !ot | cxmu
[04:35] <kostkon> cxmu, are you a bot?
[04:36] <cxmu> i wish, then i wouldn't be wanting to rip my eye out right now from trigeminal neuralgia
[04:36] <Basketball> kostkon,  so what do i say to use local time and sleep at 24:00 and wake at 6:00 and sleep at 7:00 and wake ay 3:00 mon-friday
[04:37] <kostkon> Basketball, not sure you can do all that with rtcwake
[04:37] <cxmu> sudo make my migrane go away
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> cxmu: plz stop the offtopic chat in here
[04:38] <Basketball> i would use it as a crontab like the first one then the second one
[04:38] <cxmu> its not off topic i am typing commands into the chat and hoping for them to work
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> !ops | cxmu
[04:38] <kostkon> Basketball, probably you could, by setting up multiple alarms. But you will need to calculate the wake up time in minutes (and seconds)
[04:39] <Basketball> kostkon,  what would the rtc wake be for just midnight to 6 am
[04:39] <kostkon> Basketball, and the alarms will run once
[04:39] <Basketball> kostkon,  yes one time
[04:40] <Basketball> kostkon,  i will use cron tab for everyday and the starttime
[04:41] <kostkon> Basketball, you can use cron to setup a new alarm every day yes
[04:41] <kostkon> Basketball, then the alrm will go off, then when the pc wakes up cron will setup a new one for the next day etc etc
[04:41] <Basketball> kostkon,  so what is the rtcwake for suspend until 6 am
[04:42] <kostkon> Basketball, i/m guessing you can pull it off with a bit of an effort
[04:42] <kostkon> Basketball, there's the -s option that says "Sets the wakeup time to seconds in future from now."
[04:43] <kostkon> Basketball, so just do the conversion
[04:43] <Basketball> kostkon,  what is the command for suspend -m what
[04:43]  * rww looks up
[04:43] <kostkon> Basketball, hmm no idea
[04:45]  * rww shrugs and wanders off
[04:45] <kostkon> Basketball, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813387   the link that wheatthin gave you
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> rww: :p
[04:46] <Basketball> rtcwake -m how do you compile program from zip containing cpp and makefile
[04:47] <kostkon> Basketball, oh you can also suspend with rtcwake good
[04:47] <Basketball> kostkon,  can you please write the rtcwake command for me
[04:47] <Basketball> i want it to suspend until 6 am
[04:47] <Basketball> using local time
[04:52] <kostkon> Basketball, rtcwake -s 3600xnumber_of_hours ?  or   rtcwake -m mem -s 3600xhours ?
[04:53] <Basketball> kostkon,  i want to use -t which is time
[04:53] <Basketball> and -l for local
[04:53] <kostkon> Basketball, google for an epoch time converter make sure it's for unix
[04:55] <Basketball> rtcwake -m mem -t 6:00 -l is that right?
[04:56] <kostkon> Basketball, you need to convert that time to unix epoch
[04:56] <Basketball> -l | --local
[04:56] <Basketball>               Assumes that the hardware clock is set to local time, regardless
[04:56] <Basketball>               of the contents of /etc/adjtime.
[04:56] <Basketball>   -t time_t | --time time_t
[04:56] <Basketball>               Sets the wakeup time to the absolute time time_t. time_t is  the
[04:56] <Basketball>               time  in  seconds since 1970-01-01, 00:00 UTC. Use the date tool
[04:56] <Basketball>               to convert between human-readable time and time_t.
[04:56] <unopaste> Basketball you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[04:57] <wafflejock> Basketball: regarding compiling a program typically there are instructions in a README file along with the source
[04:57] <kostkon> Basketball, yo still need to do the converstion. just google for an online converter
[04:57] <kostkon> Basketball, 2 mins top
[04:57] <kostkon> 1min
[04:58] <kostkon> tops*
[04:58] <Basketball> kostkon,  i will do anything for you if you write it for me
[04:58] <Basketball> for both the wake up at 6 and the wake up at 3
[04:58] <Basketball> i will then put it into crontab
[05:00] <kostkon> Basketball, here http://www.epochconverter.com/  e.g. rtcwake -t<PHONE_NUMBER>   for current time. well almost :P
[05:00] <Basketball> but i just want 6:00  dont want the day i am doing that in crontab
[05:02] <kostkon> Basketball, right. then only option is to use the -s parameter and set the seconds in the future
[05:03] <Basketball> why is this so hard all i want is monday through friday for my pc to suspend fro midnight to 6 am and from 7 am to 3 pm
[05:04] <kostkon> Basketball, you are right. you could easily right a bash script that calcultes the future time and creates a new rtcwake up for the next time
[05:04] <wafflejock> Basketball: cause the options you supplied want absolute time
[05:04] <kostkon> Basketball, and have cron run that every day
[05:04] <kostkon> write*
[05:05] <kostkon> rtcwake alarm*
[05:05] <Basketball> i have to go to sleep will someone please do this for me i will give them whatever they want
[05:06] <kostkon> Basketball, the script will just calculate the future time in epoch and then call rtcwake -t $time  or whatever i don't know how variables actually work in bash
[05:06] <Basketball> gtg please someone pm me with the final code/ solution
[05:06] <expunge> kostkon: doesn't matter, he's not willing to do any work at all
[05:06] <Basketball> expunge, because idk how
[05:07] <expunge> mmm
[05:09] <Basketball> kostkon,  from midnight until 6 am is 108,000 seconds
[05:09] <kostkon> Basketball, that's assuming you know when you will suspend your pc. or if you want to automate that as well then fine
[05:10] <Basketball> no , right just 108000
[05:10] <Beldar>   /j #ubuntu-enabling
[05:10] <Basketball> kostkon,  sudo rtcwake -l -s 108000 -m mem
[05:11] <xsoultribex> why ubuntu gnome 14.04.1 not showing the shell version in details?
[05:12] <Beldar> xsoultribex, Can you describe what you mean?
[05:12] <kostkon> Basketball, it's confusing :/  but ok let's assumethe cron job runs a script, you can make the script check the time, calcuate the difference in seconds and setup the alarm in seconds yes
[05:12] <kostkon> that*
[05:12] <Basketball> kostkon,  if i have it run at midnight why wont 0 0 * * 2,3,4,5,1 sudo rtcwake -l -s 108000 -m mem work
[05:13] <kostkon> Basketball, that assuming you manually suspend your pc and you only want to wake up automatically
[05:13] <kostkon> wake it to*
[05:13] <Beldar> xsoultribex, gnome 3 is already mostly there the shell is a just a few more packages.
[05:13] <Basketball> doesnt rtcwake do the suspend
[05:13] <kostkon> Basketball, oh right right
[05:13] <kostkon> Basketball, do that
[05:14] <kostkon> Basketball, if you want to suspend it at the same time yeah
[05:14] <xsoultribex> beldar, in settings>details> it only show up the ubuntu 14.04 below the gnome foot icon, i see some other posters they show there gnome version below the gnome foot icon
[05:14] <kostkon> Basketball, you can do both yeah
[05:15] <Beldar> xsoultribex, What settings?
[05:16] <Basketball> kostkon,  and then from 7 to 3 0 7 * * 2,3,4,5,1 sudo rtcwake -l -s 28800 -m mem
[05:16] <xsoultribex> wait i post some screenshot
[05:17] <kostkon> Basketball, so, first job runs. it goes to sleep, wakes up, sometime later runs the second job, sleeps, wakes up runs the first job etc?  in theory it should work
[05:18] <Basketball> kostkon, 0 0 * * 2,3,4,5,1 sudo rtcwake -l -s 108000 -m mem
[05:18] <Basketball> 0 7 * * 2,3,4,5,1 sudo rtcwake -l -s 28800 -m mem
[05:18] <Basketball> 0 0 * * 1,0,6 pmi action suspend
[05:18] <kostkon> Basketball, why the 3rd one?
[05:18] <Basketball> the first 2 are for the weekdays and the last one is on weekend for whatever time i wak up
[05:19] <Basketball> i just manually wake it
[05:19] <kostkon> Basketball, oh
[05:19] <Basketball> do i just add to crontab -e
[05:19] <Basketball> and it autoruns
[05:19] <kostkon> think so
[05:20] <Basketball> ok we will see in the moring if it is suspended
[05:20] <kostkon> it's 2 lines and i said 3rd one :/
[05:20] <xsoultribex> beldar, here it is  http://imgur.com/nuXDaPs
[05:20] <Basketball> thanks for your help
[05:20] <kostkon> Basketball, np
[05:21] <Basketball> gtg
[05:21] <Basketball> kostkon,  ohhh dont forget to turn off powersaving turn off screen after certain minutes that would mess everything up
[05:22] <kostkon> ??
[05:24] <WakeODonnell> Yo, could anyone help me with a USB issue?
[05:24] <kostkon> !details | WakeODonnell
[05:25] <WakeODonnell> Ok, so that's how this works.
[05:25] <Beldar> xsoultribex, Not sure why it does say the shell version, easily found out if needed.
[05:25] <Beldar> not say*
[05:25] <lucif3r>  /join #securethelock
[05:26] <Beldar> xsoultribex, Are you using a ppa gnome shell?
[05:27] <Beldar> xsoultribex, version, gnome-shell --version in the cli
[05:27] <xsoultribex> yeah, im using the ppa gnome3, but this ubuntu gnome 14.04.1 fresh install i got this from there website
[05:27] <ldlework> Hello. Right now, I cannot ping any ip addresses, no dns resolves, and yet here I am talking to you. Using netstat, I can even get the ip that I'm connected to 6667 on and yet I cannot ping that address at all. What is going on here?
[05:28] <xsoultribex> beldar, in terminal i got a view of my gnome version
[05:28] <Beldar> xsoultribex, This the gnome shell install not a canonical release, although supported?
[05:29] <kostkon> xsoultribex, ubuntu-gnome?
[05:29] <ldlework> If I simply reconnect to my wireless all is well for about 30 minutes until this wierd failure to connect to any ip addresses, except streaming music continues..irc continues..
[05:29] <ldlework> I'm really confused
[05:30] <xsoultribex> yeah it is supported
[05:31] <xsoultribex> kostkon, yeah it is ubuntu gnome 14.04.1
[05:31] <WakeODonnell> Could someone PM me?? Live USB issue.
[05:32] <Beldar> WakeODonnell, YOU want channel help.
[05:32] <kostkon> xsoultribex, it says official derivative on its site yeah
[05:33] <kostkon> ldlework, dns probs?
[05:33] <ldlework> no I cannot actually ping any addresses either
[05:33] <WakeODonnell> ?? Is this not it?
[05:33] <kostkon> ldlework, ip addresses?
[05:33] <WakeODonnell> Sorry I'm dumb with this
[05:33] <ldlework> kostkon: correct
[05:33] <kostkon> ldlework, ok
[05:33] <ldlework> kostkon: how is that possible?
[05:34] <kostkon> ldlework, hmm
[05:34] <ldlework> kostkon: if I just reconnect to my wireless it will work as normal for like 30 minutes
[05:35] <ldlework> then I will loose the ability to make new connetions but old ones will continue
[05:35] <ldlework> like irc, right now, even though I can't ping anything
[05:35] <goFU> IdleOne: You got cheapo router.
[05:36] <kostkon> WakeODonnell, describe your problem here
[05:36] <mellamokb> i'm trying to install gnome on ubuntu server vm.. is this message normal:
[05:36] <Beldar> close goFU
[05:36] <mellamokb> /bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: PuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authorisation protocol
[05:36] <WakeODonnell> Kostkon: I'm attempting to boot from a USB stick to install Ubuntu. It worked fine the first time, but not anymore. It failed the partition resizing and I rebooted the system accidentally after attempting to be like "eff it" and use the demo version for now. After that, I keep getting a black screen after the loading screen with the logo, and using nomodeset as recommended by a lot of people leads to a blinking underline in the
[05:36] <ldlework> goFU: I'm not sure that explains it. Its not exactly a cheap router.
[05:36] <WakeODonnell> Top-left*
[05:37] <kostkon> WakeODonnell, you could try reinstalling it
[05:37] <ldlework> kostkon: no idea right?
[05:37] <goFU> WakeODonnell: it uefi problem
[05:38] <WakeODonnell> Kostkon: That's what I'm trying to do, it failed the partition resizing and I exited, but I can't get that far anymore.
[05:38] <kostkon> WakeODonnell, right
[05:38] <memeka> I want to install some specific package (apt-get install xxx=old_vers) which depends on yyy=old_vers but apt is not smart enough to install the old_vers dep and wants to install new version => unmet dependencies message (with yyy new_vers to be installed) .... how can i install the right version for the deps too (they are not installed, and they are in the repo)
[05:38] <WakeODonnell> Kostkon: would I re-make the Live USB then?
[05:39] <kostkon> WakeODonnell, you could try that first just to be sure
[05:39] <WakeODonnell> KostkonL Ok, I will. Might get some sleeps afterwards. X3 I'll come back failing that.
[05:39] <goFU> WakeODonnell: go into uefi and disable it. Its strictly meant for Windows.
[05:39] <WakeODonnell> goFU: How would I go about that?
[05:40] <WakeODonnell> goFU: Nvm, I'll just google it
[05:42] <goFU> IdleOne: try changing ur WiFi from 5 mhz to 2.4
[05:43] <deepu> hi  I have a Problem with the bluetooth firmware, While Booting Ubuntu it says loading bluetooth sys config file failed.
[05:43] <deepu> Can Anyone give me a solution for this
[05:44] <goFU> Beldar: what scoundral
[05:45] <expunge> deepu: how is that a problem?
[05:46] <deepu> I could n't able to see the bluetooth icon thereafter , how can i install a new bluetooth adapter ?
[05:48] <Guest34864> deepu, have you installed the 3rd party drivers?
[05:48] <goFU> Guest34864: say what
[05:49] <deepu> I did n't install any third party driver apart from the UBuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit operating system
[05:49] <goFU> deepu: did it work before
[05:50] <Guest34864> deepu, i don't really know, but a long time ago i remember solving my bluetooth problems by opening the additional drivers app and installing them there
[05:51] <deepu> no sometimes it is working and some times its not ..
[05:52] <tortib> Hello everyone.  What is the package for the lamp stack?
[05:52] <tortib> the meta-package.
[05:53] <goFU> deepu: did it work
[05:54] <goFU> deepu: search for a PPA
[05:55] <Shadow> Ello
[05:55] <ubunt> how to open new terminal from command line?
[05:55] <goFU> Deepu143: PPA for Bluetooth for your model.
[05:55] <expunge> ubunt: hrmm?
[06:00] <ubunt> how to open new terminal from command line?
[06:00] <expunge> ubunt: I'm not sure that makes much sense
[06:07] <bung> ive added a user to a group, www-pub, but i can't write in a folder where it has that group as group owner, what gives?
[06:07] <ubunt> ok i know thanks for you collaboration only put gnome-terminal
[06:07] <whfkvfszjibsaybx> Is Ubuntu good as a server?
[06:23] <green4984> how do i use my ubuntu 12.04 as client openvpn the windows as server
[06:24] <ldlework> Hi, when trying to run wicd-client I get: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[06:26] <ldlework> gar I still can't ping anything
[07:01] <helmut_> hi
[07:03] <zergut> Goood day, what do i have to use to open audiostream in Ubuntu?
[07:03] <zergut> Rhythmbox is mostly like lame for such purposes
[07:04] <zergut> for opening*
[07:09] <zergut> Thanks, the question is closed, have a nice day
[07:14] <ainx> witch app for manage sound equalizer?
[07:18] <tony_> hello
[07:19] <xupeng> hello
[07:30] <senn558> So I had Ubunti 12.something installed, running KDE. Video in firefox played completely smooth. I recently wiped out the install and installed Ubuntu 14.something, which comes with Unity (i guess?). Now video in firefox has video tearing and isn't quite as smooth. Nothing else has changed. I'm also surprised how few settings I can find in this new Ubuntu. I used to be able to access proprietary video drivers (don't see any option to even see what driver I'm
[07:31] <trijntje> senn558: go to software & updates -> Additional drivers
[07:32] <senn558> yeah, i did. it says there's nothing available
[07:33] <trijntje> then you are using the default drivers which should be fine. How old is your pc?
[07:33] <senn558> also says no proprietary drivers are in use, which i find odd. because i swore i previously had a proprietary driver installed for my gtx580ti
[07:33] <senn558> in fact, i remember having to install a proprietary driver before in order to get advanced desktop environment things to work like the rotating cube
[07:34] <senn558> but that stuff doesnt even seem to exist anymore
[07:35] <trijntje> senn558: maybe the driver got moved into the kernel? In that case you don't have to install it by hand
[07:36] <senn558> hmmm...maybe. so why is the video performance sub par now?
[07:38] <trijntje> could be because unity requires more video memory, or because of something weird with flash/firefox.
[07:39] <cfhowlett> senn558, sudo apt-get ubuntu-restricted-extras          = multimedia codecs
[07:41] <fkbm> Hello, everybody, I downloaded the mini.iso 64-bit ubuntu and it seemed strange at first that the primary disc (/dev/sda) was seen as (/dev/sdd)
[07:41] <fkbm> This wasn't a problem until grub2 install which always tries to install it on /dev/sda
[07:41] <cfhowlett> fkbm, you can choose the grub installation location
[07:42] <fkbm> My question is: Can I instruct the installer (without restarting all the installation) that I want /dev/sdd for the location of GRUB?
[07:42] <fkbm> cfhowlett: Thank you, millions!!! How do I do it though? :)
[07:42] <cfhowlett> fkbm, yes.  reinstall grub
[07:42] <cfhowlett> !grub
[07:43] <trijntje> fkbm: you cant choose, you have to manually install grub to /dev/sdd
[07:43] <fkbm> Hmm, but I'm in the installation environment (USB stick) and I'm at the menu where I can choose reinstall, but it still tries /dev/sda
[07:43] <fkbm> Oh.
[07:43] <fkbm> OK.
[07:43] <fkbm> I'll look at that link, then.
[07:44] <senn558> cfhowlett:  I get "Invalid operation ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[07:44] <cfhowlett> senn558, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:45] <cfhowlett> senn558, sorry, I left out an essential command by acccident
[07:46] <senn558> its doing stuff now
[07:49] <trijntje> fkbm: it might be easier to let it install grub to the usb, boot into the harddrive with the usb as bootdevice, and hten grub-install onto your main hard drive
[07:49] <trijntje> instead of chrooting about after the installation has completed
[07:50] <fkbm> trijntje: I find it a bit difficult because all the links on google point to a grub-install like a rescue disk. I may just let it not install the grub and just reenter with a rescue disk to set the correct grub.
[07:52] <fkbm> All I have on the mini.iso is the grub-installer (notice the 'er') So I'm going to take your advice.
[07:54] <Beldar> fkbm, You can use supergrub to boot it if needed and install grub to the mbr you want from the desktop.
[07:57] <cfhowlett> senn558, fixed?
[07:57] <senn558> dunno yet...dealing with another problem that emerged after restart
[07:58] <dyu> if i run two cron jobs with @hourly, do they get executed at the same time? or does job B wait for job A to finish? job A is listed before job B in the crontab
[07:59] <Beldar> senn558, I looked on the web, on this driver and see numerous ways of going about tweaking it, you may just need to do some research.
[08:00] <Beldar> err on this card that is
[08:09] <senn558> Beldar: one of the issues im having with this new ubuntu is there seems to be a major lack of options to configure things. i cant even find the driver under the settings. a lot of stuff i can't find anymore.
[08:10] <senn558> its so minimal, its like the tried to clone apple's style
[08:11] <Beldar> senn558, If you want gui's nvidia has some I believe, it is configs you will have to mess with, that is one of the good, bad and ugly of linux.
[08:11] <bekks> senn558: Which "driver"? What exactly do you want to do, using which Ubuntu release exactly?
[08:12] <Beldar> 12.04 and 14.04 are hardly different, you just have to be more experienced in knowing what to do.
[08:13] <senn558> i dunno...i didnt spend much time with 12 or 14. 9 was the version i used to use a lot. it had so many options to configure things. i'd say 80% of that is gone in the gui now.
[08:14] <bekks> senn558: So you dont know what you are trying to do?
[08:14] <Beldar> senn558, This is not gnome 2, but a different desktop you are not familiar with.
[08:14] <senn558> yeah. i guess i miss gnome.
[08:14] <senn558> its cool...no biggie
[08:15] <Beldar> senn558, I would allow bekks to look through your issue however.
[08:16] <senn558> its fine. dont think i want to mess with it anymore. ill probably just cause more problems.
[08:16] <bekks> "it"?
[08:20] <kaushal> nm
[08:21] <marvin-hh> modprobe fglrx says that the driver cannot be found and ubuntu-drivers autoinstall doesn't install fglrx. Support that, please.
[08:22] <marvin-hh> If ubuntu-drivers autoinstall would have been a well written program, it would have checked for such basic conditions and then give some useful message as to what to with this mess.
[08:22] <bekks> marvin-hh: Thats mostly because fglrx does not support your particular hardware.
[08:22] <bekks> marvin-hh: Did you consider that possibility?
[08:23] <marvin-hh> bekks: yes, but it does support my particular hardware.
[08:23] <Gatis> Hi
[08:23] <Gatis> What window manager does Ubuntu use?
[08:23] <eeee> compiz
[08:23] <marvin-hh> bekks: in fact, in a previous run it does list fglrx and fglrx-updates as potential drivers.
[08:23] <bekks> marvin-hh: So you can install fglrx manually?
[08:24] <marvin-hh> bekks: I am now purging it and reinstalling.
[08:24] <marvin-hh> bekks: but that's kind of the whole point of ubuntu-driver autoinstall, IMHO.
[08:24] <marvin-hh> bekks: i.e., that I shouldn't have to think about this stuff.
[08:24] <marvin-hh> bekks: ubuntu-drivers is just a broken program and should be fixed.
[08:25] <marvin-hh> bekks: I don't understand why Ubuntu distributes such bad programs.
[08:25] <Gatis> WHat's the name of official openbox channel?
[08:25] <Beldar> marvin-hh, Whay are you usinglinux?
[08:25] <Wizard> Gatis: #openbox? ;)
[08:26] <Gatis> Wizard: it's not
[08:26] <Wizard> Gatis: They can have channel on different network.
[08:27] <marvin-hh> Beldar: Ubuntu Linux specifically because of legacy.
[08:27] <Beldar> marvin-hh, Legacy of what?
[08:27] <marvin-hh> Beldar: Linux because the kernel itself is not that bad.
[08:27] <Wizard> Hmm, I thought openbox development is essentially dead?
[08:27] <eeee> marvin-hh: ----> not making sense
[08:28] <marvin-hh> eeee: to you.
[08:28] <Gatis> ok
[08:28] <Gatis> Wizard: dead?
[08:28] <Beldar> to all of us
[08:28] <eeee> why do you go hunting ? the guns have a nice design
[08:28] <eeee> ok....
[08:28] <TJ-> marvin-hh: If you're upset at proprietary driver issues, the correct target of your irritation should be the hardware manufacturer that does not support fully open drivers
[08:29] <Wizard> TJ-++
[08:29] <marvin-hh> If I remove a particular package, I get another package installed?!
[08:29] <bekks> marvin-hh: Thats called "dependencies".
[08:29] <marvin-hh> How do I tell to the machine to really remove it?
[08:29] <marvin-hh> I know better than the system what I want to do.
[08:29] <cfhowlett> Gatis, irc://irc.oftc.net/#openbox
[08:30] <user3> hi people
[08:30] <Wizard> Gatis: http://openbox.org/wiki/Openbox:Community_portal
[08:30] <marvin-hh> It's the first time that I have a deletion operation result in an installation operation.
[08:30] <Wizard> They have a channelo on OTFC.
[08:30] <TJ-> marvin-hh: Please be specific - which packages?
[08:30] <marvin-hh> TJ-: fglrx and fglrx-updates
[08:30] <bekks> marvin-hh: Remove what exactly? And in all cases I've seen in the last 20 years, the system did know it better than the user. The system organizes the dependencies between 31000+ packages, because it knows it better than the user.
[08:30] <Wizard> Gatis: I didn't even needed to use Google to find it ;/
[08:31] <marvin-hh> TJ-: apt-get remove --purge fglrx results in installing fglrx-updates
[08:31] <TJ-> marvin-hh: Which package are you trying to remove, and which package is trying to be installed ?
[08:31] <user3> i can no watch movies in internet that require flash-player, even that I have it installed
[08:31] <marvin-hh> TJ-: see above.
[08:31] <user3> so, what is the matter?
[08:31] <TJ-> marvin-hh: thanks, now we can figure it out :)
[08:31] <Wizard> user3: Which browser?
[08:31] <Beldar> user3, What browser?
[08:32] <user3> fire fox
[08:32] <marvin-hh> TJ-: I would be OK with aptitude doing this kind of stuff, but apt-get remove should, IMHO, only remove stuff.
[08:32] <user3> and google
[08:32] <Wizard> user3: in ff, about:plugins
[08:32] <Wizard> user3: Check if flash is on the list.
[08:32] <user3> how to do it?
[08:32] <Wizard> I've just told you.
[08:32] <user3> sorry about my ignorance
[08:32] <Wizard> :D
[08:32] <Beldar> user3, You can use the pepper flash in FF, maybe just try chome.
[08:33] <Beldar> chrome*
[08:33] <bekks> marvin-hh: apt-get remove will install packages for meeting dependencies if the remove operation would cause the breakage of dependencies otherwise.
[08:33] <marvin-hh> bekks: that's not what the documentation says.
[08:33] <bekks> marvin-hh: Thats exactly what the documentation says.
[08:33] <user3> how to chang to ff?
[08:33] <marvin-hh> bekks: as such, there is a bug in the program until this is corrected.
[08:33] <marvin-hh> bekks: I just read the instructions for the remove command.
[08:34] <L4DD2> Hello. Question: If I install Ubuntu on UEFI mode (encrypted with LUKS/LVM). Do I need only an unencrypted EFI-partition or do I need an unencrypted EFI-partition and /boot-partition?
[08:34] <bekks> marvin-hh: Which is not enough for understanding the package management system.
[08:34] <marvin-hh> bekks: it might be that this is located in some illogical location too, but that would be a writing error.
[08:34] <marvin-hh> bekks: I now read the whole prefix up to the remove command.
[08:35] <marvin-hh> bekks: and it tells me that the current program behaviour is just wrong.
[08:35] <bekks> marvin-hh: Which is still not enough for understanding the package manager and the handling of dependencies.
[08:35] <marvin-hh> bekks: the manpage is supposed to document what a program does.
[08:35] <marvin-hh> bekks: if it doesn't you didn't comprehend Unix.
[08:35] <marvin-hh> bekks: you being whoever wrote apt-get.
[08:35] <bekks> marvin-hh: And the man page consists of far more than just the remove section.
[08:36] <marvin-hh> bekks: yes, and I read everything before that too.
[08:36] <marvin-hh> bekks: how about you tell me where it is allowed for apt-get to do this?
[08:36] <bekks> marvin-hh: So please dont get personal on people you dont know unless you did not understand how the package management system works.
[08:36] <frib> is there no "Master" Volume in pulse audio ??
[08:36] <TJ-> marvin-hh: The only package in the fglrx or fglrx-updates packages reverse-dependencies to cause one or the other to be installed is "xvba-va-driver" - is that also installed?
[08:36] <marvin-hh> bekks: I provided proof as to why it is reasonable to expect that it doesn't do this.
[08:37] <bekks> marvin-hh: I already told you why apt-get replaces dependencies for fulfilling dependemcies.
[08:37] <marvin-hh> bekks: you have not provided a shred of evidence for your point.
[08:37] <user3> in cheome the same thing
[08:37] <marvin-hh> bekks: you only said stuff without references to the manpage.
[08:37] <marvin-hh> bekks: and that means, I am sorry, nothing.
[08:37] <bekks> marvin-hh: You did not prove anything until now, expect wild assumptions how a package manager should work regardless of that would break the package management system.
[08:38] <TJ-> L4DD2: EFI SP must be unencrypted, but you can encrypt /boot/ if you use "GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y" in "/etc/default/grub"
[08:38] <bekks> marvin-hh: So I am resting your case, since it seems - to me - that your whole point is just ranting.
[08:38] <eeee> marvin-hh: read man apt-get
[08:38] <marvin-hh> bekks: I am very happy that you are trying to help me, but I did indicate that in the remove section it doesn't say anything about installing packages.
[08:38] <eeee> the "-f" section
[08:38] <eeee> If packages are
[08:38] <eeee>            specified, these have to completely correct the problem. The option
[08:38] <eeee>            is sometimes necessary when running APT for the first time; APT
[08:38] <eeee>            itself does not allow broken package dependencies to exist on a
[08:38] <eeee>            system.
[08:39] <marvin-hh> eeee: the -f section should be unrelated, since I am not giving that option.
[08:39] <eeee> they aren't going to explain the whole function of a program in a section of an option marvin-hh
[08:39] <marvin-hh> bekks: all I have asked for is a reference to a line of text from that man page.
[08:40] <marvin-hh> bekks: you have not been able to provide that.
[08:40] <L4DD2> TJ-: To boot the system you need kernel image and initramfs. Is that possible if /boot is encrypted? For understanding...
[08:40] <Gatis> Im using OpenBox
[08:40] <bekks> marvin-hh: I am resting your case for the reasons above.
[08:40] <Gatis> But some stuff doesnt work
[08:40] <TJ-> marvin-hh: Please answer the constructive questions instead of ranting - is the package  "xvba-va-driver" installed?
[08:40] <marvin-hh> TJ-: this is not ranting.
[08:40] <TJ-> L4DD2: EFI SP must be unencrypted, >>>> but you can encrypt /boot/ if you use "GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y" in "/etc/default/grub" <<<<
[08:40] <marvin-hh> TJ-: I cannot use a system which doesn't do what its documentation says.
[08:40] <marvin-hh> TJ-: I don't like to guess.
[08:40] <marvin-hh> TJ-: I don't like to come here and ask questions.
[08:41] <marvin-hh> TJ-: so, if you can tell me why I am wrong, just show me.
[08:41] <L4DD2> TJ-: Thank you
[08:41] <Gatis> Help
[08:41] <marvin-hh> TJ-: and just saying things without a reference does not count.
[08:41] <Gatis> me
[08:41] <Gatis> OBBB
[08:41] <marvin-hh> TJ-: these are the basics of system development.
[08:41] <marvin-hh> The only way out for Ubuntu I see is opening a bug for this problem.
[08:41] <cynicallemon> Gatis: would be good if you told us what didnt work...
[08:42] <Gatis> I have some problems with OpenBox.. Help me
[08:42] <marvin-hh> The documentation is wrong or the program is.
[08:42] <Gatis> cynicallemon: i have problems with keyboard layout. don't know how to change it
[08:42] <marvin-hh> TJ-: do you find this position unreasonable? If so, please explain why.
[08:42] <eeee> marvin-hh: or the user, lets be thorough here
[08:42] <marvin-hh> eeee: you have not provided any evidence for that.
[08:43] <marvin-hh> eeee: so, let's not consider that until you do.
[08:43] <Gatis> help m
[08:45] <eeee> marvin-hh: i just thought of something, you know how they say on a poker table if you cant spot the fish, you're it? well if you cant spot the troll...
[08:45] <eeee> lol
[08:45] <Gatis> O
[08:45] <Gatis> HERE OH
[08:45] <Gatis> here me oh people
[08:46] <fkbm> trijntje: I ended up writing the normal ubuntu server to the usb which identifies the HDD as /dev/sda
[08:46] <TJ-> marvin-hh: I have logs going back a long time, and in every one you consistently rant and argue. You've spent 71 lines today so far when 5 would be more than sufficient for constructive support from volunteers here.  Rethink you attitude.
[08:57] <marvin-hh> bekks: you don't get support here using any attitude.
[08:58] <marvin-hh> bekks: you should tell everyone who is not providing actual support to remain silent.
[08:58] <popey> bekks: marvin-hh can you take your argument elsewhere please.
[08:58] <marvin-hh> popey: I am not interested in any argument.
[08:59] <marvin-hh> popey: I want an answer.
[08:59] <marvin-hh> popey: and that's completely on-topic.
[08:59] <trijntje> marvin-hh: what is your question exactly?
[08:59] <popey> you've been arguing for the last 20 mins
[08:59] <marvin-hh> trijntje: you don't have a scrollback?
[08:59] <popey> is your question still "why does removing one package install another?" essentially?
[09:00] <trijntje> marvin-hh: sure, i could scroll back 30 minutes through this channel to find out, or you could just ask it again
[09:01] <eeee> marvin-hh: you are basically saying they should call this program apt-get-[or-remove] ? or put a thorough explanation of the program's functioning in the remove section ?
[09:01] <marvin-hh> trijntje, popey: based on what documentation is apt-get remove package allowed to install anything?
[09:01] <Flannel> marvin-hh: Can you provide an example of it doing so?
[09:01] <popey> marvin-hh: to fulfil other dependencies
[09:01] <marvin-hh> popey: can you please answer the question?
[09:01] <popey> if you type "aptitude why <packagename>" for the newly installed package, it will tell you why it was installed
[09:02] <marvin-hh> popey: not the question you think I asked; the actual question.
[09:02] <marvin-hh> Flannel: fglrx and fglrx-updates.
[09:02] <popey> i did
[09:02] <phunyguy> If I recall sometimes things need a certain "type" of app, like a screensaver app for example.  If you remove gnome-screensaver when you have pidgin-awayonlock, it wants to install another screensaver package.  I have seen that.
[09:02] <popey> you dont like the answer I gave, fair enough.
[09:02] <marvin-hh> popey: trust me; you did not.
[09:02] <marvin-hh> popey: no, it's not that I didn't like the answer; it's just wrong.
[09:02] <Flannel> marvin-hh: Can you please pastebin the terminal session where this happened?  You provided two package names, you didn't explain what was being removed/installed/etc.
[09:03] <marvin-hh> Flannel: apt-get remove fglrx --purge wanted to install fglrx-updates
[09:03] <popey> marvin-hh: installing foo pulls in bar or baz. If you installed foo and bar, then baz may not be installed. However if you remove bar, baz _may_ be installed to fulfill the dependency of foo
[09:03] <marvin-hh> Flannel: there is no more information to be shared.
[09:03] <marvin-hh> Flannel: and since I am now not in an X session pasting is difficult.
[09:03] <popey> marvin-hh: which release is this?
[09:03] <Flannel> marvin-hh: So, no you can't provide the session log? or no you're not willing to help us help you?
[09:04] <marvin-hh> Flannel: you are just stalling here.
[09:04] <marvin-hh> Flannel: I provided *all* relevant information.
[09:04] <Flannel> marvin-hh: No, you're just making it less likely anyone is going to answer you.
[09:04] <marvin-hh> Flannel: the output is just the standard output.
[09:04] <marvin-hh> Flannel: it lists what it is going to remove and what it is going to install with a Y/n
[09:04] <eeee> marvin-hh: pastebinit , apt-get <arguments> | pastebinit
[09:05] <phunyguy> I just said it.  Sometimes things need a certain "type" of application.  I have seen this happen.  It is intended, and harmless.
[09:05] <popey> marvin-hh: right, so run "aptitude why fglrx-updates" and it will tell you _why_ it wants to install it (once installed)
[09:05] <marvin-hh> I am not going to paste this. This is just one of your tactics.
[09:05] <phunyguy> Oh for crying out loud.
[09:05] <popey> marvin-hh: thats not how support works around here.
[09:05] <marvin-hh> popey: aptitude is unrelated to apt-get.
[09:05] <marvin-hh> popey: please try again.
[09:05] <popey> marvin-hh: no, its not
[09:05] <marvin-hh> popey: yes, it is.
[09:05] <marvin-hh> popey: and it doesn't answer my question.
[09:05] <popey> marvin-hh: "why" is a feature of aptitude that apt-get doesn't have, hence me suggesting you use it
[09:06] <trijntje> hahaha, yeah, thats one of our sneaky tactics to ......, and then profit!
[09:06] <marvin-hh> popey: the question is about *documented behaviour*.
[09:06] <popey> marvin-hh: the other option is you dig in files in /var/ which is unpleasant
[09:06] <marvin-hh> popey: it's not about what tools happen to do.
[09:06] <user-pc> hello can anyone tell me what that means and how to fix it  please?
[09:06] <user-pc> user-pc@Android:~ > popcorn-time
[09:06] <user-pc> [22059:0824/120512:INFO:CONSOLE(14)] ""Database path: /home/user-pc/.config/Popcorn-Time"", source: app://host/src/app/database.js (14)
[09:06] <user-pc> [22059:0824/120514:INFO:CONSOLE(44)] ""[%cINFO%c] Loading DB" "color: blue;" "color: black;"", source: app://host/src/app/app.js (44)
[09:06] <user-pc> ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by environment.
[09:06] <user-pc> [22097:0824/120515:ERROR:sandbox_linux.cc(142)] InitializeSandbox() called with multiple threads in process gpu-process
[09:06] <unopaste> user-pc you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[09:06] <marvin-hh> popey: it's about why in the first place it is allowed to do this.
[09:06] <popey> marvin-hh: it is the basic function of apt-get to resolve dependencies
[09:06] <usr13> marvin-hh: It may not be accurate to say that they are un-related, but best to use apt-get
[09:06] <cynicallemon> marvin seems to be getting paranoid...
[09:06] <theperfectpunk> can't  install xubuntu 14.04
[09:06] <theperfectpunk> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2wdbpro&s=8
[09:06] <theperfectpunk> using a flash drive
[09:06] <marvin-hh> popey: like I said: I don't care what apt-get *does*.
[09:06] <theperfectpunk> this comes after install
[09:06] <marvin-hh> popey: I care about why it is allowed to do it.
[09:06] <popey> marvin-hh: you do, you asked why does it do it
[09:07] <marvin-hh> popey: NO
[09:07] <theperfectpunk> when i press enter on install
[09:07] <popey> marvin-hh: and I'#m telling you how to find out
[09:07] <marvin-hh> popey: I did not ask that.
[09:07] <trijntje> !enter | theperfectpunk
[09:07] <popey> marvin-hh: you may want to reconsider your approach with regards to getting support
[09:07] <marvin-hh> popey: lol
[09:07] <Flannel> marvin-hh: Have a nice day.
[09:07] <popey> marvin-hh: bitching at us because the documentation doesn't say what you think it does isn't helpful to anyone
[09:07] <marvin-hh> popey: you have not provided any reference to the documentation.
[09:07] <eeee> marvin-hh: this might help, --no-remove
[09:07] <eeee>            If any packages are to be removed apt-get immediately aborts
[09:07] <eeee>            without prompting.
[09:07] <popey> marvin-hh: I dont need to
[09:08] <eeee> marvin-hh: try adding that, or alias apt-get='apt-get --noremove'
[09:08] <popey> marvin-hh: i know how aptitude and apt work, and I have told you twice why
[09:08] <Gatis> HIs OpenBox dead?
[09:08] <popey> marvin-hh: but you seem more intent on arguing
[09:08] <marvin-hh> popey: you are not even able to answer a question using the right type of response, regardless of whether or not it is correct.
[09:08] <theperfectpunk> anybody please ?
[09:08] <theperfectpunk> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2wdbpro&s=8
[09:08] <marvin-hh> popey: I don't *care* how they work.
[09:08] <popey> marvin-hh: Have a nice day.
[09:08] <marvin-hh> popey: I care about the difference between the documentation and what they actually do.
[09:08] <TJ-> theperfectpunk: The kernel was unable to mount the root initrd by the look of the stacktrace
[09:08] <marvin-hh> popey: why can't you comprehend this?
[09:08] <popey> marvin-hh: i can
[09:09] <cynicallemon> Gatis: openbox is quite alive, if you want a ready to version of openbox then try crunchbang linux
[09:09] <marvin-hh> popey: then why are you answering as if you don't?
[09:09] <popey> marvin-hh: I refuse to get sucked into a ridiculous argument about documentation
[09:09] <user-pc> hello can anyone tell me what that means and how to fix it  please? http://pastebin.com/CFR6S6vC
[09:09] <marvin-hh> popey: it's not an argument; it's just that I am right and you don't want to admit it.
[09:09] <popey> "Why is this happening", "this is why" "NO, ANSWER ME DIFFERENTLY!"
[09:09] <popey> is ridiculous
[09:09] <marvin-hh> popey: I never asked why it is happening.
[09:09] <popey> 10:06:55 < marvin-hh> popey: I care about why it is allowed to do it.
[09:10] <popey> yes, yes you did
[09:10] <MonkeyDust> user-pc  what's the outcome of:   cat /etc/issue
[09:10] <theperfectpunk> TJ-: i've installed ubuntu and gnome ubuntu before
[09:10] <theperfectpunk> that went well
[09:10] <marvin-hh> popey: yes, I asked that. That's still about documentation.
[09:10] <TJ-> I've got an ignore set, but it's pretty obvious this is classic passive-aggressive behaviour - best recourse is to stop feeding it.
[09:10] <Flannel> popey, marvin-hh: Please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere, so we can keep this channel clear for actual technical support, thanks.
[09:10] <user-pc> Linux Mint 17 Qiana \n \l
[09:10] <marvin-hh> Flannel: this is about technical support.
[09:10] <MonkeyDust> user-pc  mint is not supported here
[09:10] <theperfectpunk> TJ-: any suggestions?
[09:10] <TJ-> theperfectpunk: Does the install use a separate /boot/ partition?
[09:10] <theperfectpunk> should i try cd?
[09:11] <marvin-hh> Flannel: in this case, about why the program named apt-get doesn't work according to its documentation.
[09:11] <Flannel> marvin-hh: "about" is not technical support.  Please take it elsewhere, thanks.
[09:11] <user-pc> ok how to go where i suppose to be please ?
[09:11] <Gatis> Hey
[09:11] <trijntje> !mint
[09:11] <theperfectpunk> TJ-: i haven't specified the parameters
[09:11] <Gatis> What Window manager do you people suggest for slow PC?
[09:11] <marvin-hh> Flannel: documentation of a specific core tool is on-topic.
[09:11] <usr13> marvin-hh: What is your problem?  (Maybe I can help.)
[09:11] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  lxde or xfce, or openbox or fluxbox
[09:11] <trijntje> you cant, because he doesn't want help
[09:11] <Flannel> marvin-hh: Yes, but if you refuse to provide any real information, you are not interested in obtaining support, therefore, it's offtopic.
[09:11] <marvin-hh> usr13: can you read a question? (Nobody else before was able to do that)
[09:11] <user-pc> yes but i have no idea how to go there  i use first time
[09:12] <usr13> marvin-hh: Never mind.
[09:12] <cynicallemon> Gatis: using the command line is pretty fast as a file manager
[09:12] <marvin-hh> usr13: disappointing.
[09:12] <TJ-> theperfectpunk: This kind of kernel panic usually occurs because the initrd.img (initial RAM disk image) wasn't correctly built, and that usually happens due to an out-of-disk-space issue, which usually happens due to the /boot/ file-system becoming full. It is also possible that the building of the initrd.img failed for some other reason during installation.
[09:12] <marvin-hh> Flannel: I provided all the real information.
[09:12] <user-pc> #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[09:13] <marvin-hh> Flannel: in fact, you should be able to see these reverse dependencies somewhere yourself too.
[09:13] <usr13> Is marvin-hh 32bit or 64bit?
[09:13] <popey> marvin-hh: you can, rdepends.
[09:13] <user-pc> how to go to mint 17 channel please? anyone
[09:13] <Gatis> cynicallemon: is there any window manager like openbox which is under active development? Simple and clean.
[09:13] <marvin-hh> Flannel: heck, you can even assume that there are such reverse dependencies.
[09:14] <phunyguy> user-pc: it is on a completely separate network
[09:14] <Gatis> user-pc: there is no mint channel on this server
[09:14] <MonkeyDust> user-pc  go to the linuxmint website, click Community > Cummunty > Chatroom
[09:14] <Flannel> user-pc: You need to connect to irc.spotchat.org (a different network), then join #linuxmint-help
[09:14] <marvin-hh> Flannel: the details of which are *irrelevant* to my question.
[09:14] <marvin-hh> Flannel: however, you apparently fail to comprehend that or you are just trolling.
[09:14] <Gatis> Why Linux Mint is not on this network?
[09:14] <eeee> user-pc: type /server irc.spotchat.org
[09:14] <popey> Gatis: ask them.
[09:14] <Flannel> marvin-hh: The details are a sanity check that people are all on the same page.  This is 100% normal operation for almost every support interface.
[09:14] <eeee> user-pc: then type /join #linuxmint-help
[09:14] <MonkeyDust> !coffee
[09:14] <Gatis> LinuxMint don't like Freenode?
[09:14] <marvin-hh> Flannel: you are just making excuses.
[09:14] <theperfectpunk1> TJ-: i used the usual Universal USB Installer to create bootable usb
[09:14] <bekks> Gatis: BEcause they decided to use another network for creating their support channel.
[09:15] <anon> ?
[09:15] <popey> Gatis: ask them, not us.
[09:15] <Gatis> bekks: that's doesn't tell anything
[09:15] <Gatis> popey: ok
[09:15] <Gatis> ill go ask :)
[09:15] <theperfectpunk1> TJ-: the only thing that is different this time is that i'm using cruzer blade
[09:15] <bekks> Gatis: Yeah, because no one besides them knows ;)
[09:15] <theperfectpunk1> which shows itself as fixed drive
[09:15] <theperfectpunk1> instead of removable
[09:15] <maverick_> problems with caffeine?
[09:16] <TJ-> theperfectpunk: Are you sure it hasn't run out of space for the root-file system (if that contains /boot/) ? I'm focusing on space since it is the cause 95% of the time
[09:17] <maverick_> caffeine won't work ubuntu 14.04
[09:17] <Gatis> What is caffeine?
[09:18] <Marie> bjr
[09:18] <maverick_> apps disable blank screen saver
[09:18] <bekks> maverick_: It does for me. Can you elaborate "wont work" a bit further please?
[09:18] <Marie> je n'arrive pas à me connecter sur skype qlq'un pourrait m'aider s'il vous plait
[09:19] <Marie> ????
[09:19] <bekks> !info kaffeine | Gatis
[09:19] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[09:19] <theperfectpunk1> TJ-: My partiton table http://tinypic.com/m/iee1kx/2
[09:19] <theperfectpunk1> m trying to boot from UUI
[09:20] <maverick_> I have installed the ppa: when try to open it's say locale error how can i fixed this issue
[09:20] <theperfectpunk1> TJ-: used ext2mgr to mount ext3 partitions which don't have labels
[09:20] <Gatis> OKAY!
[09:21] <root> hi
[09:21] <TJ-> theperfectpunk1: So Disk 1 is the USB ?
[09:21] <Guest82896> ?
[09:21] <Guest82896> ????
[09:22] <MonkeyDust> Guest82896  it works, we see you
[09:22] <theperfectpunk1> TJ-: Disk 3 is the usb flash drive
[09:22] <theperfectpunk1> m gonna install ubuntu on Disk 1
[09:23] <Gatis> HELLO PEOPLE!
[09:23] <mediKanteMK> Ciao!
[09:23] <mediKanteMK> list
[09:24] <MonkeyDust> !list > mediKanteMK
[09:24] <TJ-> theperfectpunk1: To be clear, you've installed Xubuntu to Disk 1 from an installer ISO image on Disk 3?
[09:25] <maverick_> Gatis: Do u have any recomendation for caffeine?
[09:27] <theperfectpunk1> TJ-: i have an iso image on Disk 0, with which i created a bootable usb flash drive Disk 3 using Universal USB Installer to install xUbuntu on Disk 1
[09:27] <Gatis> maverick_: yes
[09:27] <eeee> marvin-hh: i dont want to start anything here, but please read man apt-get you will find everything you wanted in the install section, remove section states it is identical  to install, except it removes, there is the feature that you want too in the install section, last couple sentences of the first paragraph These latter features may be used to override decisions made by apt-get's conflict resolution system. CHEERS
[09:27] <Flannel> eeee: Let it go.
[09:27] <Gatis> maverick_: too much coffeine is bad for health
[09:27] <eeee> Flannel: i was being constructive only
[09:28] <TJ-> theperfectpunk1: Thanks :) And so the installer completed and you get this panic when the freshly built installation on Disk 1 tries to start?
[09:28] <Flannel> eeee: I understand, but just drop it for the future, I think that'd be best.
[09:28] <eeee> Flannel: that was my last sentence
[09:28] <Flannel> eeee: We fully appreciate your support. :)
[09:28] <eeee> thanks
[09:28] <theperfectpunk1> TJ-: no, this occurs when i try to boot from the bootable usb Disk 3
[09:29] <cynicallemon> maverick_: you want an alternative to caffeine?
[09:29] <TJ-> theperfectpunk1: Oh! that means the image is damaged
[09:29] <theperfectpunk1> TJ-: but i downloaded from xubuntu wiki
[09:29] <TJ-> theperfectpunk1: First thing to check is that the cryptogaphic hash of the ISO image matches that listed on the download web site page
[09:29] <theperfectpunk1> i should check the hash for my ISO i think?
[09:30] <theperfectpunk1> yea ok :-)
[09:30] <maverick_> cynicallemon: pls I'd like that recommedation
[09:30] <cynicallemon> maverick_: what about vlc?
[09:31] <maverick_> there's a feature in that specific apps?
[09:31] <marvin-hh> eeee: I still do not agree this answers the question. There is little point in continuing this.
[09:31] <cynicallemon> maverick_: feature, what feature?
[09:31] <maverick_> to disable screensaver
[09:32] <theperfectpunk1> TJ-: the hash matches
[09:32] <theperfectpunk1> i think i should try a different usb installer
[09:32] <TJ-> theperfectpunk1: So the image must have failed to write to the target device correctly then
[09:33] <theperfectpunk1> TJ-: yea, m trying to do it with RMprepusb now
[09:33] <theperfectpunk1> do you know the parameters?
[09:33] <cynicallemon> maverick_: vlc has a disable screensaver function
[09:33] <TJ-> theperfectpunk1: Not something I ever use; I always work from deboostrap
[09:34] <cynicallemon> maverick_: plus being Qt based it will fit in nicely with a KDE system
[09:38] <maverick_> cynicallemon: appreciated i got fixed thanks for you help saved my life
[09:38] <cynicallemon> maverick_: i think you can also use "xset s on[off]" to disable/enable screensaver function
[09:38] <cynicallemon> maverick_: you're welcome
[09:56] <badideaman> I'm not sure where to post this, but I've run into a bit of trouble.   I ran gparted, and deleted a partition on /dev/sda rather than /dev/sdb. sda was where I happened to have my current installation of Ubuntu. I'm trying to run testdisk to recover. Is anyone familiar with partition recovery?
[09:56] <cfhowlett> !recovery
[09:57] <badideaman> did you read what I typed?
[09:57] <cfhowlett> !recover | badideaman,
[09:57] <badideaman> this is LVM2.
[10:00] <Welastevil> hi
[10:01] <Welastevil> some sites in some videos asking me to instal flash if I wanna watch it...
[10:01] <Welastevil> even using chrome
[10:01] <Welastevil> more over, I already install flashplayer...
[10:01] <Welastevil> why may it happens?
[10:03] <badideaman> Welastevil, try going to http://youtube.com/html5  in Chrome. Are all of the options available to you?
[10:04] <Welastevil> hii dont know
[10:04] <Welastevil> i don know
[10:05] <Welastevil> in youtube I can see every video, but not in russian channel, 1kanal
[10:06] <badideaman> Welastevil, reread that. Go to the link I typed.
[10:06] <badideaman> Are all of those options listed on the page available?
[10:11] <Qwertie> Hi :)
[10:12] <RaccoonCity_> Test
[10:12] <RaccoonCity_> Hello guys
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[10:18] <cfhowlett> welastevil ONLY russian youtube is blocked?  check your government
[10:18] <cfhowlett> freecharge, get your spam out of here.
[10:19] <freecharge> *freecharge dies...!!
[10:19] <nydel> is anyone using systemd in place of upstart on 14.04?
[10:21] <freecharge> Get 50 rupees cashback on recharge of rupees 50 using this promo code FCREFQMTJD6S4 on freecharge.in
[10:21] <cfhowlett> popey, tyvm
[10:25] <ibr4h1m> Hey
[10:25] <ibr4h1m> Need help
[10:25] <cfhowlett> !ask + ibr4h1m
[10:26] <ljunggren> !help + ibr4h1m
[10:26] <ljunggren> !question + ibr4h1m
[10:26] <ibr4h1m> how to setup chroot environment in ubuntu 12.04 for python
[10:26] <ljunggren> very good bot
[10:26] <popey> its | not + you use with the bot
[10:26] <ljunggren> !ask | ibr4h1m
[10:27] <cfhowlett> !ask | ibr4h1m
[10:27] <cfhowlett> !ask | ibr4h1m
[10:27]  * cfhowlett thinks ubottu is sleeping
[10:27] <ljunggren> popey: stupid me, thanks.
[10:27] <cfhowlett> ibr4h1m, ask your ubuntu questions
[10:27] <Novice201y> Hello. How can I resize .jpg without opening it (it's very large)?
[10:27] <popey> Novice201y: imagemagick can do that.. "convert -resize 1024x768 foo.jpg resized.jpg"
[10:29] <flux242> hi, I'm trying to update packages and I receive - W: GPG error: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:29] <cfhowlett> flux242, gotta update the signing key
[10:30] <cfhowlett> flux242, happens quite often
[10:30] <bazhang> !gpgerr
[10:30] <flux242> I'v already run apt-key adv --recv-keys .. and it didn't help
[10:31] <bazhang> what was the exact full command flux242
[10:31] <marvin-hh> How can I completely disable the radeon driver? I don't want it to be loaded in the first place. I added install radeon /bin/false to blacklist.conf but that didn't have any effect.
[10:32] <Qwertie> Is anyone else having problems with rhythmbox? It keeps freezing for me.
[10:32] <marvin-hh> I also wrote a line blacklist radeon, but it still gets loaded.
[10:32] <flux242> I also tried to apt-get clean and removing /var/lib/apt/list and then update again - didn't help
[10:32] <marvin-hh> Googling for radeon only gives me spam on how to install radeon, not how to get rid of it.
[10:32] <flux242> sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[10:33] <Novice201y> popey: Thank You
[10:33] <popey> Novice201y: no problem
[10:34] <flux242> It worked a week ago and I didn't add a repo or install anything new since then
[10:34] <popey> flux242: we sometimes update the keys on the server
[10:34] <cfhowlett> flux242, not your fault.  keys change frequently
[10:34] <flux242> popey: thank you very much. HOw do I fix not my fault?
[10:35] <popey> flux242: usually just doing an "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will pull the new one down for next time
[10:35] <popey> i have never had to do the --recv-keys dance for the official archive keys
[10:35] <eeee> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5
[10:36] <eeee> ( @ flux242 )
[10:36] <eeee> try that
[10:36] <eeee> ( i think you got the args mixed up )
[10:36] <flux242> eeee: ok, i'll try it
[10:37] <eeee> hmm, just saw the !factoid , nevermind, if you want give it a shot who knows though
[10:38] <flux242> nope, still the same error
[10:39] <eeee> flux242: try to build the software cache, sudo mv /var/lib/apt/lists /var/lib/apt/lists.backup;  sudo mkdir /var/lib/apt -p lists/partial; sudo apt-get update
[10:40] <flux242> are gpg's wrong on the server?
[10:40] <popey> flux242: can you pastebin the full output of "sudo apt-get update" please?
[10:40] <bazhang> flux242, I would try popey's solution first
[10:40] <flux242> I won't do dist-upgrade
[10:41] <mintgreen> here is the last lines of the output of 'fsck -y /dev/sdc1' , http://pastebin.com/tbxYjnCC ,how to fix this?
[10:41] <bazhang> flux242, it's NOT a version upgrade
[10:41] <eeee> flux242: dist-upgrade is only for packages not the release
[10:41] <cfhowlett> flux242, dist-upgrade is one of the most useful commands - it'll bring 14.04 to 14.04.1
[10:42] <flux242> I'm fine with the current set of packages
[10:42] <eeee> flux242: try a different server
[10:42] <popey> flux242: it doesn't upgrade from trusty to another release
[10:42] <popey> flux242: it just updates what you have installed and pulls in whatever else is needed by those updates
[10:42] <flux242> what the diff then between update and dist-upgrade?
[10:43] <popey> flux242: update - update local list of packages (no packages actually upgraded)
[10:43] <popey> flux242: upgrade - upgrade packages that are already installed to any new releases in the archive (upgrades packages)
[10:43] <cfhowlett> flux242, update updates your LIST of packages.  dist-upgrade upgrades your OS packages
[10:43] <flux242> I usually do update and then upgrade
[10:43] <flux242> no dist-upgrade
[10:43] <cfhowlett> flux242, your loss
[10:43] <popey> flux242: dist-uprade upgrade packages that are already installed and will install additional packages if new versions of those packages upgraded are required (upgrades packages & may install new things)
[10:44] <popey> you should dist-upgrade
[10:44] <eeee> flux242: dist-upgrade is like upgrade but with more perks, so to speak
[10:44] <popey> flux242: dist-upgrade will _not_ upgrade (for example) 14.04 to 14.10
[10:45] <eeee> it's allowed to do stuff upgrade can't, that's all
[10:45] <Ionut_> Hello there, anyone online ? i need some help with ubuntu & a pc
[10:45] <flux242> never had any problem with upgrade
[10:45] <popey> Ionut_: yes.
[10:45] <eeee> flux242: did upgrade ever mention ..bla bla bla packages were held back?
[10:45] <eeee> that's when dist-upgrade comes
[10:45] <cfhowlett> Ionut_, ask your ubuntu questions
[10:45] <flux242> of course, my kernel is kept back
[10:45] <popey> flux242: its not that upgrade has problems, but dist-upgrade is preferable generally
[10:46] <flux242> for a reason
[10:46] <popey> flux242: why do you want to keep your kernel back?
[10:46] <faLUCE> hello, what's the best way to have linux on my nexus7 2013 tablet? I tried ubuntu touch but the version for my model (deb) is very unstable and buggy....
[10:46] <eeee> ^^
[10:46] <popey> flux242: it's not finished yet, I'd wait till later in the year
[10:46] <popey> oops, that was for faLUCE
[10:46] <cfhowlett> faLUCE, touch is still pre-release.  wait.
[10:47] <Ionut_> popey: I have this emachines e440 and running (when worked) ubuntu 12.10. runned smoothly, but suddenly stopped (everything turned off). when i try to turn it back on, everything works (fans, also cpu i belive, hard disk everything) but the screen is all black. Can you tell me some opinions?
[10:47] <teololtoy> stupid to use 12.10, it's not a LTS release
[10:47] <cfhowlett> Ionut_, check your GPU card.
[10:47] <popey> teololtoy: now now, we don't call our users stupid
[10:47] <cfhowlett> teololtoy, "stupid" is not helpful ...
[10:47] <faLUCE> popey: cfhowlett what about installing linux on android?
[10:48] <cfhowlett> Ionut_, 12.10 is end of life and no longer supported.  once you sort your graphics situation, you should upgrade to a supported version: 14.04 currently
[10:48] <popey> Ionut_: 12.10 is no longer supported, which doesn't help you right now, but just FYI
[10:48] <Ionut_> cfhowlett: well, i tried with a VGA cable to connect it to another monitor, also i tried with a HDMI cable. nothing works. is that the proplem.
[10:48] <popey> faLUCE: i haven't tried that, I dont run android really.
[10:48] <cfhowlett> faLUCE, ask www.xdadevelopers.com          about that
[10:49] <popey> Ionut_: tricky, did it work previously? what changed? (you did updates?)
[10:49] <cfhowlett> Ionut_, no video output?  sounds like a failed gpu card
[10:49] <cfhowlett> Ionut_, if you dual boot, try windows.  or try hooking the monitor up to a different computer to eliminate the monitor as a fault.
[10:49] <faLUCE> is there an irc channel for xda?
[10:49] <flux242> here's the full output http://pastebin.com/zDeyVRcr
[10:49] <RaccoonCity_> Is there an directory for the terminal?
[10:50] <RaccoonCity_> Like in the filesystem
[10:50] <Ionut_> popey: it worked previously, no updates. had this problem before, but i tried to turn it on again and it worked. it sounds really like a graphic card problem.  cfhowlett i can't dual boot, haven't windows on it and can't see anything on pc. any of u know if i can update the graphics card (change it)
[10:50] <popey> Ionut_: one way to test would be to boot off a live cd / usb
[10:51] <Ionut_> so you guys think i should try another graphic card, but may i ask: can i change it on this pc
[10:51] <popey> Ionut_: if you still have the problem then it could be a hardware issue
[10:51] <cfhowlett> Ionut_, desktop?  pull that sucker and replace.  laptop?  depends.
[10:51] <teololtoy> Ionut_: why are you using a non-LTS release?
[10:51] <TJ-> flux242: The signature is bad "gpg: BAD signature from "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key (2012<EMAIL_ADDRESS> "
[10:52] <flux242> yeah, i've already noticed that signature is bad
[10:52] <TJ-> flux242: The main archive is fine: "gpg: Good signature from "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key (2012<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:52] <Ionut_> teololtoy: runnes better on this, i am a student and don't need more than i had. popey i belive is the graphics card fault. cfhowlett is a laptop. i can't find nothing about on internet. if i'll find that i can't switch with another graphic card ill do it now. i can buy a cheap one.
[10:52] <TJ-> flux242: Ergo, there's either a mirror compromise or corruption; either way, alert the mirror owners
[10:52] <popey> flux242: did you run the apt-key under sudo?
[10:53] <Ionut_> i will also update to last ubuntu  version --version
[10:53] <flux242> yes
[10:53] <TJ-> popey: They key is in the standard Ubuntu apt key-ring
[10:53] <popey> TJ-: I know ☻
[10:53] <popey> flux242: i still maintain that update / dist-upgrade would make this go away ☻
[10:54] <TJ-> flux242: I'm testing other mirrors; so far only de. fails the signature
[10:54] <popey> flux242: you could switch to another mirror, like the main archive, as a test
[10:54] <flux242> i need my kernel version intact
[10:54] <TJ-> popey: Test the signature - it fails for everyone, the signature is bad
[10:56] <TJ-> There doesn't appear to the an archive-sync in progress either; there's no stamp file in the root to indicate it
[10:57] <Novice201y> Hello. I used to use Flash for Ubuntu 10.x from Adobe's site and it was good, but then I installed Ubuntu restricted extras and I think that quality for 720p on Youtube is lower than before. How can I undo this changes?
[10:58] <TJ-> flux242: which mirror are you hitting, what does this report "dig +short de.archive.ubuntu.com" ?
[10:59] <Ionut_> should i install ubuntu on a asus u36sg with intel i7 , 8gb of ram, 1gb nvidia gt 710m that runess windows 8.1 and battery lasts 11 hours ?
[10:59] <TJ-> flux242: See the list of "Germany" mirrors here. Using the IP your hitting we should be able to isolate the operator: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[10:59] <cfhowlett> Novice201y, purge the last flashplugin-installer and install your plugin of choice.
[10:59] <flux242> TJ-: ubuntu.mirror.tudos.de.
[10:59] <flux242> <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:59] <flux242> <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:59] <flux242> <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:59] <TJ-> flux242: Same as me then, and I see the same bad sig
[11:00] <TJ-> flux242: Both the Releases and Releases.gpg for trusty-backports have diffs against the main archive
[11:00] <eeee> yeah i just tried us.archive archive and de.archive
[11:01] <eeee> it starts going off at universe/binary
[11:01] <flux242> are they out of sync or compromised?
[11:01] <TJ-> flux242: see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/de.archive.ubuntu.com-archive
[11:01] <TJ-> flux242: I'm not sure, I'm going to compare the sigs for the other pockets first
[11:04] <faLUCE> I don't undarstand if I have alternatives to ubuntu touch for my nexus 7 2013 |deb| tablet... Should I install something like "linuxonandroid" ? what do you suggest?
[11:04] <TJ-> flux242: It seems to be only the trusty-backports
[11:05] <Je9> Hi. If Secure Boot is active - can I boot Knoppix?
[11:05] <cfhowlett> Je9, ask the #knoppix channel - not supported here.
[11:06] <flux242> TJ-: yep, without them update is clean
[11:06] <cfhowlett> faLUCE, ask the #nexus channel
[11:16] <zj> anybody？
[11:17] <popey> !ask | zj
[11:25] <Edico> hi
[11:25] <expunge> hi ed
[11:26] <Edico> how do I open the update window, I want to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 and I can't find the update window for upgrade to a new release
[11:26] <cfhowlett> Edico, you can use the terminal: sudo do-release-upgrade
[11:28] <popey> Edico: if you want the window, update-manager is the graphical tool
[11:28] <Edico> thank you
[11:28] <popey> np
[11:32] <joseph> hello
[11:34] <expunge> hi joseph
[11:34] <joseph> ve installed lubuntu
[11:35] <expunge> joseph: righto
[11:35] <deanrock0> hi, i upgraded 13.10 to 14.04 and now I cannot get internet connection to work ... ifup eth0 says "cannot find device eth0", any idea what could be wrong?
[11:36] <sakamop> Does SLI work properly in Ubuntu? I am getting a black screen instead of the lightdm login screen when the second card (identical to the first) is installed. (It boots fine up to that point).
[11:38] <popey> deanrock0: is it a desktop or server (i.e. does it have a graphical environment or is it text only) ?
[11:38] <deanrock0> popey: server without graphical env
[11:40] <popey> deanrock0: is the card listed in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:41] <deanrock0> popey: it is, it has a static config
[11:41] <Vai> help please
[11:42] <Vai> while installing a znc in my znc root i got this msgs :( znc is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[11:42] <Kris545545> He's asking for help to add the user "znc" to the sudoers file
[11:43] <Vai> yes right Kris545545
[11:44] <bekks> the user znc should not have sudo capabilities for security reasons.
[11:44] <bekks> what are you trying as user "znc" which needs sudo?
[11:44] <Kris545545> Download znc
[11:45] <bekks> Kris545545: you dont need sudo for znc then. Just use your "normal" administrative user for installing software as usual.
[11:45] <popey> deanrock0: does "ifconfig" list the interface?
[11:46] <Kris545545> He's got it working now
[11:46] <deanrock0> popey: no
[11:47] <popey> deanrock0: does "dmesg | grep eth0" list it?
[11:48] <deanrock0> yes
[11:48] <deanrock0> popey: it also says something along the lines "renamed network interface eth0 to em1"
[11:48] <popey> deanrock0: aha!
[11:49] <popey> deanrock0: so thats the new naming scheme
[11:51] <deanrock0> popey: didn't expect that it would rename interfaces on upgrade ... anyway em1 isnt listed on ifconfig and ifup em1 returns "unknown interface em1=em1"
[11:51] <popey> deanrock0: maybe you need to add a stanza for em1 in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[11:52] <popey> deanrock0: alternatively you can disable the renaming by adding biosdevname=0 to your grub config
[11:52] <deanrock0> popey: it works, thanks so much
[12:03] <root> hi
[12:03] <expunge> hi root
[12:10] <popey> deanrock0: sweet!
[12:18] <thecha> how do i create a live usb but instead of pristine ubuntu 12 with the personalized version of ubuntu 12 thatis on my desktop pc
[12:18] <thecha> liek with all the chanegs liek added software and files
[12:18] <thecha> ?
[12:18] <thecha> pls hlp
[12:19] <thecha> omg pls halp
[12:25] <zum> Hi! Why my laptop doesn't shutdown when I click to shutdown and after that I close the lid of laptop. It goes to hibernate state instead. I have to wait to shutdown then I can close lid. I use xubuntu
[12:31] <havarka> zum you can change that in settings, what computer should do after pressing shutdown or after closing lid, something like power settings
[12:31] <havarka> zum1
[12:31] <deepblue> here is the tail of the output of 'fsck -y /dev/sdc1', http://pastebin.com/tbxYjnCC ,how to fix this?
[12:33] <zum1> havarka I have some options in my system settings. I set it correctly but nothing works
[12:33] <havarka> zum1 dont know then, sry
[12:34] <zum1> Ok, thank you. On Mint xfce I didn't have problems.
[12:34] <yossarianuk>  hi - I am tring to use a 2nd GPU on my Desktop - as well as my normal GPU (Nvidia) I would like to use the motherboards built in one (intel) - how do I go about do this ? t present I have the Nvidia going to a DVI connection (my main monitor)
[12:34] <yossarianuk> and the 2nd monitor going to the intel integrated GPU   the nvidia GPU is seeing my deskop - the 2nd GPU has the kubuntu logo.  this may also help
[12:34] <yossarianuk>  xrandr --listproviders  shows
[12:34] <yossarianuk> Provider 0: id: 0x2b5 cap: 0x1, Source Output crtcs: 2 outputs: 4 associated providers: 0 name:NVIDIA-0
[12:35] <yossarianuk> Provider 1: id: 0x49 cap: 0x2, Sink Output crtcs: 4 outputs: 6 associated providers: 0 name:Intel
[12:35] <thecha> how do i create a live usb but instead of pristine ubuntu 12 with the personalized version of ubuntu 12 thatis on my desktop pc
[12:35] <thecha> liek with all the chanegs liek added software and files
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> thecha: unetbootin can be used with your own ISO if you wish
[12:36] <thecha> what the hell is unetbootin?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> thecha: or you can use dd to put the ISO on the device
[12:36] <thecha> what in the world is dd?
[12:37] <thecha> sorry i am unfamilair with this
[12:37] <thecha> :(
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> thecha: why dont you find out for yourself?
[12:37] <thecha> ok :(
[12:37] <dunderburken> hi, any NAS-guru here?
[12:39] <TJ-> yossarianuk: You'll need to configure an additional X session to use the 2nd GPU
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> dunderburken: ask and see :-)
[12:40] <thecha> ActionParsnip→ i will now install the ubetonit from repository
[12:40] <deepblue> here is the tail of the output of 'fsck -y /dev/sdc1', http://pastebin.com/tbxYjnCC ,how to fix this?
[12:42] <thecha> ActionParsnip → unetbootin doesnt work with my i386 what to do?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> thecha: of course it works with i386
[12:43] <thecha> it says it doesnt
[12:43] <WoAyumi> hi
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> thecha: where did you read that?
[12:43] <thecha> there is a pop up window when i am trying to install
[12:43] <thecha> i was adding it with the add software thingy
[12:43] <thecha> from the repository
[12:44] <thecha> then a popup apeared
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> thecha: yes, what page is that from...?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> thecha: news to me, never had an issue....
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> thecha: then use dd, the newer ubuntu versions are hybrid and this works
[12:51] <TinyBuster> hi
[12:51] <TinyBuster> does anyone here ?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> TinyBuster: yes
[12:52] <evilop> TinyBuster: no we does not
[12:53] <TinyBuster> so why do you answers me ?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> TinyBuster: you havent asked one, as far as my client shows
[12:54] <atsauhk> msg
[12:54] <TinyBuster> how can I ask one ?
[12:55] <yossarianuk> TJ: thanks - don't suppose you know of any examples  / guides?
[12:56] <yossarianuk> i.e is this controlled via xorg.conf ?
[12:56] <Vai> why when im trying to connect my new znc even the website of my znc says this: * Unable to connect to server (Connection timed out)
[12:56] <Vai> and my root is up and nothing installed on it only the znc clients
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> TinyBuster: just type it
[12:56] <Vai> any help?
[12:58] <TJ-> yossarianuk: Yes, you'll need an additional 'Screen' and 'Driver' section in xorg.conf, and a 'Layout' section that describes both Screen sections
[12:58] <TinyBuster> how can I see chanel available in freenod ?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Vai: ,may help https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-znc-an-irc-bouncer-on-an-ubuntu-vps
[12:58] <Vai> ActionParsnip, thx
[12:58] <simion314> hi all, I am on 12.04 , a week or two ago my built in audio card disapeared from pavucontrol listing, (it appeared once back but now I can't make it appear). It works on Windows(dual booting for gaming) anyu ideas?
[12:58] <yossarianuk> TJ: thank you - will try it out (at present I have no xorg.conf)
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> !alis | TinyBuster
[13:00] <evilop> simion314: does it show in lspci?
[13:00] <TJ-> yossarianuk: "Xorg -configure" should generate a default xorg.conf that you can adjust for what you want
[13:00] <yossarianuk> cheers !
[13:00] <ThePadawan> hi guys, wrote a batch script that reads a file line for line, but it's off by one, it doesn't does the last one => code (http://paste.ubuntu.com/8130431/)
[13:02] <TJ-> ThePadawan: the input file doesn't have a linefeed for the last line
[13:02] <TinyBuster> LIST
[13:02] <TinyBuster> Oh sorry
[13:02] <ThePadawan> TJ-: pardon me?
[13:03] <ThePadawan> TJ-: you mean a \n
[13:04] <TJ-> ThePadawan: Yes
[13:04] <ThePadawan> TJ-: k thnx
[13:06] <TinyBuster> LIST [freenod]
[13:09] <stangeland> Hello, i am trying to run sudo apt-get update but for some reason its not working...i am getting the following errors? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8131072/
[13:10] <stangeland> anybpdy?
[13:10] <eeee> stangeland: you're running ubuntu 13.10, which is eol (no support anymore), you can either upgrade or modify the sources.list
[13:11] <stangeland> eeee, aha. so they already cut all support to 13.10
[13:11] <stangeland> its not even 1 year old
[13:11] <eeee> stangeland: non-lts releases are supported for 9 months
[13:11] <llorephie> Looks like simply broken ._.
[13:12] <eeee> ( lts are supported for 5 years)
[13:12] <stangeland> oh...thats not a lot...ok.... so after 9 months they just remove the repos and you are screwed until you update?
[13:12] <evilop> stangeland: sounds reasonably to me
[13:13] <eeee> stangeland: you can modify the sources.list , you just need to modify no.archive.ubuntu.com to no.old-releases.ubuntu.com
[13:13] <eeee> updating would be better though
[13:13] <stangeland> i see....i am running a git repository and a wiki server on apache on this 13.10 machine. is it safe to upgrade it directly yo 14.04 ?
[13:13] <waterloo2005> I can NOT install ipython3-notebook in 12.04.5 amd64. It says "ipython3-notebook: Depends: ipython3 (=0.13.2-1~ubuntu12.04.2) but 0.12.1+dfsg-0ubuntu1.1 is to be installed". How to do with it? Thanks
[13:13] <eeee> (upgrading)
[13:15] <Guest92254> I just upgraded and I cannot get modules to load with the right settings or make xrandr modes save for next boot. Help is greatly appreciated
[13:15] <stangeland> i see....i am running a git repository and a wiki server on apache on this 13.10 machine. is it safe to upgrade it directly yo 14.04 ?
[13:15] <llorephie> Yes.
[13:16] <stangeland> how do i upgrade it to 14.04?
[13:16] <llorephie> Can you show /etc/apt/sources.list?
[13:16] <stangeland> without loosing data and functionality
[13:16] <llorephie> In /etc/sources.list replace all saucy with trusty
[13:16] <stangeland> here it as: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8131136/
[13:16] <ikonia> no
[13:17] <llorephie> But if it is broken - it will not work
[13:17] <ikonia> do not modify sources.list like that
[13:17] <ikonia> do not change distros in sources.list
[13:17] <llorephie> Mm?
[13:17] <stangeland> llorephie, its not broken...it used to work just fine until now suddently
[13:17] <llorephie> In debian workd...
[13:17] <ikonia> llorephie: you are not using debian
[13:17] <Guest92254> I can't find my xorg.conf :( big deal!
[13:17] <ikonia> there should be no reason to change the distros in sources.list - do not do this
[13:18] <ikonia> Guest92254: xorg does not use xorg.conf by default, if you want to hard code options you have to make the file
[13:18] <stangeland> ikonia, okay  - is there a better way?
[13:18] <ikonia> stangeland: what exactly are you trying to do (I'm missing part of the conversation)
[13:18] <Guest92254> Okay, thank. thats what I figured actually. But apparently I have to do this, as I need it to add certain options for usbhid and xrandr