[08:19] <dholbach> good morning
[13:50] <nigelb> ugh, mouse not working is frustrating
[13:53] <nigelb> persia, I talked to brian about the possibility of ~ubuntu-dev being a member of ~ubuntu-reviews http://paste.ubuntu.com/415554/
[13:54] <persia> I really think that's a horrid idea, as I stated before.
[13:54] <nigelb> ouch
[13:54] <nigelb> ;)
[13:54] <persia> See the transcript of your convesation with geser in -motu or /query with me for rationale.
[14:23] <nigelb> dholbach, we can either have a Patch Day Lite (tm) or just do the example stuff after The Patch Day
[14:23] <dholbach> the former :)
[14:24] <nigelb> hm, that means, all of us founding members need to pick a day and review like 25 patches
[14:24] <dholbach> what do you think about having a call next week to discuss what still needs doing and stuff?
[14:24] <nigelb> call?
[14:24] <dholbach> yeah, like chat about it :)
[14:25] <nigelb> skype you mean?
[14:25] <dholbach> skype or empathy or whatever else :)
[14:25] <nigelb> yeah, sure.  I'll free up my schedule for a day
[14:25] <dholbach> I'm sure we'll get an idea what needs doing quite quickly :)
[14:25] <nigelb> I can make a list of what needs to be done soon and get to work on it before patch day
[14:26] <dholbach> maybe we can have a chat on monday or tuesday :)
[14:26] <nigelb> review queue stands at 111, I hope we can get it to 0 on patch day :)
[14:26] <nigelb> Monday!
[14:26] <dholbach> and maybe I can help out with a bit of it
[14:26] <nigelb> oh, great :)
[14:27] <dholbach> Monday is good, I just have a call from 16-17 utc
[14:27] <dholbach> maybe before that?
[14:27] <nigelb> how about 1300 UTC?
[14:28] <dholbach> that sounds fantastic to me :)
[14:28] <nigelb> Great.  I'll set a reminder on my phone and I'll get to work on the wiki modifications that can be done now :)
[14:31] <dholbach> great :)
[14:55] <nigelb> qense, thanks for those UDS session links :)
[14:55] <nigelb> *spec
[14:55] <qense> nigelb: you're welcome :)
[14:55] <nigelb> :)
[14:56] <qense> nigelb: We ought to have talked about the GUI by now, didn't we?
[14:56] <nigelb> qense, should have.  only I'm waiting for the reviews team stuff to settle down
[14:56] <qense> ok
[14:56] <qense> nigelb: Ping me when you're ready for it.
[14:57] <nigelb> qense, sure.  if you want to start without me, its fine too :)
[14:57] <qense> nigelb: I'm not sure if that's a good idea, considering the amount of knowledge I have of the process, but who knows. ;)
[14:57] <nigelb> qense, I only know the process and far little coding
[14:58] <qense> nigelb: sounds perfect!
[15:04] <nigelb> hyperair, can you take another look at bug 528686?
[15:04] <ubot3> Malone bug 528686 in apt-watch "Please merge apt-watch 0.3.2-14 (universe) from Debian testing (main)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528686
[15:07] <hyperair> nigelb: launchpad is being extremely stupid to my region at the moment. what's this revision 19 allisson was talking about?
[15:07] <hyperair> nigelb: and is there any justification for introducing that particular debian-ubuntu delta/
[15:07] <nigelb> hyperair, I guess there was one rev, where ubuntu modified the config directly instead of through a patch
[15:07] <hyperair> ?
[15:08] <nigelb> hyperair, you want the ubuntu version?
[15:09] <nigelb> its 0.3.2-13ubuntu1
[15:09] <hyperair> nigelb: what?
[15:09] <hyperair> no wait, i think i get what's going on now.
[15:09] <hyperair> nigelb: i think config.guess was accidentally modified by someone who did not check his diffs properly before uploading.
[15:09] <nigelb> hyperair, yep
[15:09] <hyperair> nigelb: which is why i'm requesting the change be dropped.
[15:10] <nigelb> hyperair, oh.  can you fix it and upload (since we're so late in the cycle)
[15:10] <hyperair> oh
[15:11] <nigelb> I'm just trying to reduce the size of the review queue :)
[15:11] <hyperair> nigelb: we may need FFe.
[15:11] <nigelb> ah.  arg.
[15:12] <nigelb> hyperair, the change needing to be dropped has to be talked to whoever made the change right?
[15:12] <hyperair> nigelb: probably.
[15:13] <nigelb> hyperair, differ to lucid+1 or do it now?
[15:14] <hyperair> nigelb: i don't think there's anything particularly important, but it did mention something about synaptic having a fit.
[15:14] <hyperair> nigelb: but if synaptic did have a fit, i think this would have been prioritized higher and noticed
[15:15] <nigelb> hyperair, setresgid(0,0,0); looks important?
[15:15] <hyperair> nigelb: see the comment.
[15:16] <hyperair> nigelb: ideally, i'd contact the debian maintainer and squeeze this out of him to determine if it's worth FFeing and uploading, but i haven't the time to do so.
[15:16] <hyperair> nigelb: (think ~2months of study backlog for 4 modules and exams looming in 1 week)
[15:17] <nigelb> hyperair, um, packages.ubuntu.com says apt-watch is a transitional package
[15:17] <nigelb> aah, it just got split up
[15:21] <nigelb> I'll just consider if deferred or deal with it when *I* get the time :)
[15:21] <nigelb> hyperair, I'll just consider if deferred or deal with it when *I* get the time :)
[15:23] <hyperair> nigelb: look at the source package, not th binary.
[15:23] <hyperair> nigelb: deferred it is then.
[15:23] <hyperair> nigelb: do you have milestone changing powers or shall i set it?
[15:23] <nigelb> I have, I'll set it
[15:23] <nigelb> ubuntu later?
[15:24] <hyperair> nigelb: yes
[15:26] <nigelb> done
[15:28] <qense> hyperair: I think we have a duplicate of your Critical one in bug #564351
[15:28] <ubot3> Malone bug 564351 in indicator-application "Fails to install library to GAC" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564351
[15:28] <qense> I'm afk, btw
[15:30] <hyperair> qense: it's another bug.
[15:36] <qense> ok
[15:36] <qense> hyperair: another... ;)
[15:36] <hyperair> qense: sorry, i thought you meant the one i *just* filed.
[15:37] <qense> hyperair: the bug I just linked to in this chat is not a duplicate, or is it?
[15:37] <hyperair> qense: duplicate to another critical one i filed..
[15:37] <hyperair> qense: there were two critical bugs i've filed against ind-app
[15:38] <hyperair> one was the original issue which i partially fixed
[15:38] <hyperair> then i missed the .pc file
[15:38] <hyperair> which caused bce to die.
[15:38] <qense> hyperair: yeah, I got pinged by someone about that.
[15:38] <qense> hyperair: did you see the patch from Jo Shields?
[15:38] <hyperair> qense: i asked him to make it.
[15:39] <qense> ah!
[15:39] <hyperair> qense: scroll up and read what i said about 2months and 1week.
[15:39] <hyperair> qense: my brain's internal schedule tells me my ircing time slice is up, so back to study for me :-)
[15:39] <qense> hyperair: ok, thank you for your answer
[15:58] <hyperair> qense: ....i thought i told you that the bug was not a duplicate of the one i just filed, but the one earlier!
[18:14] <malev> hi there! I was surfing in the wiki and I found your team. I'm at bug 528567. what can I do to applier
[18:14] <ubot3> Malone bug 528567 in exaile "Ubuntu One Music Store plugin" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528567
[18:14] <malev> the patch?
[18:16] <malev> I got it, don't worry!!


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 Sorry lol
 Sorry @RikMills am away with my family, not great internet. Agree with everything you have said
 Hi @Valoriez yes 1 week is ok for noms


[20:39] <oleks> Hi, what is the default screensaver utility on Xubuntu?
[20:40] <oleks> I am getting the error discussed in the following post, but the post is quite old, and I do not have light-locker installed (it seems)
[20:40] <oleks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/462361/xubuntu-blank-screen-after-wakeup
[20:41] <oleks> oh wait.. it is installed, sorry
[20:50] <Spass> hello oleks, light-locker is default at the moment, bu it will be replaced by xfce4-screensaver in the future, personally I don't have a good experience with light-locker
[20:51] <Spass> it doesn't work on any of my two machines and it crashed, so I replaced it with xscreensaver on my laptop and it works great
[20:51] <Spass> (I've turned it off on my PC, since I don't really need a screensaver there)


[04:19] <Sargun> Why does each distro have its own git repo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/KernelGitGuide
[04:19] <Sargun> er, release
[04:23] <Sargun> How do I build linux-tools from the vanilla kernel tree
[05:28] <apw> Sargun, they are in their own repos to reduce size of any one clone (old releases are not included) and to some degree minimise risk of damage to any one series.
[05:28] <apw> Sargun, don't really understand what you mean by "vanilla tree" in the tools context
[08:04] <anpok> I am using 4.10.0-21 on two intel machines one is a i7 and the other is a dual xeon. on both I frequenty run into soft lockuk - usually related to firefox: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24641800/
[08:08] <anpok> I am curious how much of that is a firefox problem.. or really a kernel problem.. killing firefox does not help after some time other sys calls get stuck i.e. fork stops working..
[08:44] <apw> anpok, soft lockups normally are a kernel side issue, expecially if they do not self resolve
[08:44] <apw> anpok, ie does that "stuck for" increase
[08:54] <anpok> let me look through the logs
[08:58] <anpok> oh I should have scrolled further up .. it starts with something else:
[08:58] <anpok> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24642183/
[09:02] <anpok> looks like bug #1674838