[00:01] <ibuclaw> sogepp, hint: you can debug shell scripts with 'bash -v'
[00:01] <vader95> hi, does anybody know how to install an averatec touch screen on 10
[00:01] <vader95> .10
[00:01] <ibuclaw> (if you want to find the root cause of the problem)
[00:06] <sogepp> i got this message
[00:06] <sogepp> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://repos.zend.com server/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/repos.zend.com_zend-server_deb_dists_server_non-free_binary-i386_Packages)
[00:07] <sogepp> how to fix it ??
[00:07] <ibuclaw> sogepp, comment out the duplicate
[00:08] <ibuclaw> sogepp, it's just a warning though.
[00:09] <ibuclaw> errors are prefixed with E:
[00:09] <sogepp> i see
[00:10] <ibuclaw> sources are kept in /etc/apt/sources.list, or in any file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[00:10] <ibuclaw> can be edited with a text editor (using root privileges)
[00:11] <ibuclaw> or via software sources app
[00:13] <sogepp> done
[00:39] <sogepp> so quiet
[00:39] <tenach> ...too quiet.
[00:40] <gstarx90> WHAT WAS THAT
[00:40] <gstarx90> oops
[00:40] <sogepp> yeall
[00:41] <sogepp> let's talkin'
[00:41] <sogepp> guys
[00:42] <gstarx90> hi
[00:42] <sogepp> hi
[00:43] <gstarx90> hi.
[00:43] <sogepp> hi..
[00:46] <gstarx90> hi
[00:47] <stephen__> Is this the right place for people that have absolutely no idea what they're doing?
[00:47] <stephen__> Thanks, bubbaloo
[00:47] <UndiFineD> stephen__, yes
[00:47] <sogepp> hi too
[00:47] <sogepp> ha ha
[00:48] <bubbalooo> stephen__, no problem lots of veyr knowledgeable people on here at times
[00:48] <bubbalooo> very
[00:48] <sogepp> guys, have u tried another distro
[00:48] <stephen__> So, after just switching from Windows, I had a terribly difficult time even getting into irc.
[00:48] <UndiFineD> so .. what do you want to do ?
[00:48] <bubbalooo> sogepp, name one I haven't
[00:49] <stephen__> Well, I got everything set up, and I was wondering how to install .jar files.
[00:49] <gstarx90> you don't, you just run them
[00:49] <gstarx90> minecraft?
[00:49] <gstarx90> :D
[00:49] <stephen__> Actually, yeah.
[00:49] <UndiFineD> stephen__, jar is java compiled, and need java runtime envronment
[00:49] <sogepp> wohoho, nice bubbaloo
[00:49] <UndiFineD> !jre
[00:49] <ubot2> To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java. For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.
[00:50] <sogepp> so, wich is lighter, opensuse or ubuntu,
[00:50] <bubbalooo> sogepp, just a friendly little fun. ;)
[00:50] <stephen__> Alright, you're talking repositories, and exclamation points, and that's past me.
[00:51] <UndiFineD> hehehe
[00:51] <bubbalooo> sogepp, I ran opensuse I think not sure about the difference do you have low ram or cpu
[00:51] <stephen__> the repositories are where all of the applications and updates are held, right?
[00:51] <gstarx90> yes
[00:51] <UndiFineD> stephen__, ok, so you need a step by step then
[00:51] <gstarx90> stephen__: open up the synaptic package manager in system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[00:52] <gstarx90> search sun-java6, and then install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin
[00:52] <sogepp> not exactly, it just my notebook seems getting hot too much when i use ubuntu,
[00:52] <UndiFineD> gstarx90, I was thinking ubuntu software center
[00:52] <stephen__> Alright.
[00:52] <stephen__> It's open
[00:52] <bubbalooo> sogepp, I just did a Vbox of archbang it is very light and really arch for dummies, I felt right at home.
[00:52] <sogepp> i use toshiba l510 with core2duo , 2gb ram, and intel gma 4500 graphics card
[00:53] <UndiFineD> stephen__, Applications -> Ubuntu Software Center , open it and type java
[00:53] <gstarx90> alright, in the quick search, search sun-java6
[00:53] <bubbalooo> sogepp, archbang has alive cd
[00:53] <stephen__> install java6 runtime?
[00:53] <sogepp> bubbaloo, is it possible to compile a proper driver for intell graphics card??
[00:53] <gstarx90> install, sun-java6-bin sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-plugin
[00:54] <UndiFineD> my first entry says : OpenJDK Java 6 Runtime
[00:54] <bubbalooo> sogepp, I suspect that there are drivers availble from a ppa like xswat but doing it by compiling I just don't know. My cards work out of the box
[00:54] <UndiFineD> any jre  will do most of the time
[00:54] <gstarx90> that's why said said synaptic UndiFineD ;)
[00:55] <UndiFineD> anyway, check it, press install or apply and it gets installed
[00:56] <stephen__> Alright, I'm a quarter the way there.  Do you know the best place to go to teach the basic commands?
[00:56] <gstarx90> stephen__: sudo apt-get install <packagename> to install a package
[00:56] <stephen__> Whenever I ask my friend about how to do anything, he's always telling me "-sudo" and such in terminal, and I'm at a complete loss.  I tried looking different things up, and they're all just confusing as mess.
[00:56] <UndiFineD> stephen__, we have a mentor programme where people willing can teach you almost anything
[00:57] <UndiFineD> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam
[00:57] <gstarx90> stephen__: well sudo is an elevation of privileges to do something
[00:58] <stephen__> gotcha
[00:58] <stephen__> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[00:58] <stephen__> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[00:58] <gstarx90> stephen__: you need to close synaptic
[00:58] <stephen__> And then the java file stopped installing.
[00:58] <gstarx90> wat?
[00:59] <gstarx90> no
[00:59] <stephen__> I was installing it in the Ubuntu Software Center, and then I tried running the terminal with the "sudo" commands.
[00:59] <stephen__> It ended the ubuntu software center.  I re-opened it, and now it's done installing.
[01:00] <gstarx90> alright, try running minecraft now, you might need to set it as executable, right click the file, properties
[01:00] <gstarx90> permissions, click set program as executable
[01:00] <gstarx90> and then close that and then right click it again, click open with java
[01:00] <stephen__> Bahaha. You guys are awesome.
[01:01] <stephen__> Alright
[01:01] <stephen__> I'll check out the beginner's team
[01:01] <gstarx90> stephen__: install graphics card drivers and disable compiz for better speeds
[01:02] <aveilleux> gstarx90, stephen__: Minecraft's executable is a Java program, but it's not run as an executable. It doesn't need execute permissions to run, since you're actually opening the file in the Java interpreter (which is an exectuable).
[01:02] <stephen__> I'm running a laptop with an integrated graphics card, idk if that makes any difference.
[01:03] <UndiFineD> hardly stephen__
[01:03] <UndiFineD> most graphics cards can do stuff for compiz today
[01:04] <stephen__> So I still need to install the integrated card's drivers?
[01:04] <stephen__> And you want me to end the compiz process?
[01:04] <aveilleux> gstarx90, stephen__: From a command line, you'd want to put the -jar flag (ie. java -jar minecraft.jar), since Java doesn't automagically detect whether or not it's a jar
[01:05] <UndiFineD> gstarx90, I doubt if disabling compiz is what every user wants
[01:05] <stephen__> that's what i just did
[01:05] <gstarx90> it improves some speeds in my experience
[01:05] <UndiFineD> gstarx90, natty, our next release depends on it
[01:06] <aveilleux> UndiFineD: Much to my chagrin
[01:06] <UndiFineD> aveilleux, I can imagine that
[01:06] <stephen__> how do i start up compiz again?
[01:06] <gstarx90> odear, so if it's disabled....
[01:06] <stephen__> It's not disabled, I just ended the process.
[01:07] <gstarx90> stephen__: System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects
[01:07] <aveilleux> stephen__: In command line, you can run compiz --replace & #YOU MUST INCLUDE THE AMPERSAND
[01:07] <UndiFineD> stephen__, system -> preferences -> appearance
[01:07] <aveilleux> stephen__: Otherwise, what the others have said
[01:07] <gstarx90> thecapsaresrsbro
[01:07] <UndiFineD> :) aveilleux
[01:08] <stephen__> I can't get to visual effects, after I ended compiz, it just threw everything off on my computer..
[01:08] <stephen__> I think I'm going to restart.
[01:08] <UndiFineD> no need
[01:08] <gstarx90> wat
[01:08] <gstarx90> not bubbalooo too
[01:08] <gstarx90> ;-;
[01:09] <UndiFineD> nit-wit,
[01:10] <nit-wit> UndiFineD, yes
[01:10] <UndiFineD> can i pm ?
[01:10] <nit-wit> yes
[01:11] <gstarx90> hi stephen, welcome back
[01:11] <Guest53741> Thanks! I guess that was a lesson well learned. ;)
[01:11] <nit-wit> do I do something to accept or access this a bit IRC, not so savvy
[01:11] <UndiFineD> Guest53741, is stephen ?
[01:11] <Guest53741> If you don't know what it is, don't end it. ?
 stephen__: System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects
 stephen__: In command line, you can run compiz --replace & #YOU MUST INCLUDE THE AMPERSAND
[01:12] <sogepp> anyone know channel for puppy linux ???
[01:12] <Guest53741> Okay, cool. And, yeah, Stephen__
[01:14] <Guest53741> Aw, dang.   You made sense of non-sense.
[01:19] <Guest53741> I'll probably be back eventually. ;)
[01:50] <FredFlinstone> i need help with making my new ubuntu machine visible on my windows lan
[01:50] <holstein> hmm
[01:50] <holstein> FredFlinstone: define 'visible'
[01:50] <holstein> and 'windows LAN'
[01:50] <holstein> and we'll go from there
[01:50] <holstein> you want to share files?
[01:51] <UndiFineD> FredFlinstone, you need samba for that
[01:51] <holstein> !samba
[01:51] <ubot2> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[01:56] <UndiFineD> nit-wit, is your irc working correctly now ?
[01:57] <nit-wit> I'm recoginzied but locked out of the ##windows I need to login
[01:57] <nit-wit> might have been banned who knows lol
[01:59] <UndiFineD> nit-wit, no you have not been banned
[02:02] <FredFlinstone> yeah i want to have my windows boxes shares mounted in ubuntu, and vice versa
[02:02] <FredFlinstone> just installed samba http://www.prash-babu.com/2008/05/how-to-setup-samba-in-linux.html
[02:02] <FredFlinstone> or i am trying
[02:03] <FredFlinstone> up to here i was ok, this failed = Step 8: Now type sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart to restart samba
[02:04] <FredFlinstone> how do i restart samba?
[02:04] <holstein> you can always logout and back in
[02:04] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=648661
[02:05] <FredFlinstone> thAt will kill everything tho right?
[02:05] <holstein> the logout?
[02:05] <holstein> it will log you out
[02:06] <holstein> but that link has sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[02:06] <holstein> in it
[02:06] <FredFlinstone> Try System->Administration->Services ? i don't have that
[02:07] <holstein> right
[02:07] <holstein> that would be for an older verion of ubuntu
[02:07] <holstein> BUT sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[02:07] <holstein> should work
[02:07] <FredFlinstone> sudo: /etc/init.d/samba: command not found
[02:08] <FredFlinstone> rebooting , brb
[02:08] <holstein> FredFlinstone: try googling the exact ubuntu verion you have
[02:08] <holstein> and restart samba
[02:08] <holstein> i havent used samba in a few verions
[02:09] <holstein> hey
[02:09] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html#samba-fileserver-installation
[02:09] <holstein> sudo restart smbd
[02:09] <holstein> from
[02:09] <holstein> !samba
[02:10] <ubot2> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[02:10] <holstein> ^^ that would be for 10.04
[02:10] <holstein> i bet it works in 10.10 though
[02:10] <FredFlinstone> rebooting , brb
[02:17] <FredFlinstone> ok i can see the machine from an xp, but i don't see any shares i did auto config in ntfs config for the 4 partitions across 3 drives, first frive has two shares
[02:17] <FredFlinstone> what is autoconfig?
[02:17] <FredFlinstone> did i screw up?
[02:19] <holstein> FredFlinstone: congrats :)
[02:19] <holstein> you got a good start on it
[02:19] <FredFlinstone> :)
[02:19] <holstein> SO, you can see the share you made in ubuntu on XP?
[02:19] <holstein> OH
[02:19] <holstein> you can see the box in general showing up
[02:20] <FredFlinstone> no, i can see the ubuntu machine with only one thing in the list, printers and faxes
[02:20] <holstein> let me look around
[02:20] <holstein> there was a package i used
[02:20] <holstein> a GUI
[02:20] <holstein> might be gone now
[02:20] <holstein> this was 9.04 i think...
[02:20] <FredFlinstone> terminal is ok, long as i know what to do :)
[02:20] <holstein> yeah, i wont remember any of that though
[02:21] <FredFlinstone> i have set up my credentials file and user and enabled it and that from that webpage
[02:22] <holstein> i remember working on permissions for a while
[02:23] <holstein> let my look at gadmin-samba
[02:23] <holstein> the package i used is not there anymore
[02:24] <holstein> i remember having decent luck with pyneighborhood
[02:24] <holstein> but that was going the other way
[02:25] <FredFlinstone> path = /media/drive public = yes writable = yes  create mask = 0777  directory mask = 0777  force user = nobody  force group = nogroup
[02:25] <FredFlinstone> this is my next thing and looks wrong'
[02:26] <holstein> gadmin-samba is looking a lot like the tool i used
[02:26] <holstein> BUT i had a book at the time
[02:26] <FredFlinstone> i think public = no and user = myonlyuser ?
[02:26] <holstein> that i loaned out
[02:26] <holstein> the book helped me
[02:26] <holstein> and i wish i could recall :/
[02:26] <holstein> FredFlinstone: make a little noise though, im sure some samba guru will be along :)
[02:27] <FredFlinstone> i can try the samba channel
[02:29] <FredFlinstone> well maybe someone will come around in one of the channels
[02:30] <FredFlinstone> #samba seems dead
[02:30] <holstein> FredFlinstone: you got a loco channel?
[02:30] <holstein> a local ubuntu team channel..
[02:30] <FredFlinstone> i doubt it
[02:30] <holstein> http://loco.ubuntu.com/
[02:34] <FredFlinstone> path = /media/drive
[02:34] <FredFlinstone> it wants ? sda or something?
[02:34] <FredFlinstone> how do i determine this?
[02:35] <FredFlinstone> the drive is called backups to the windows part of things
[02:35] <FredFlinstone> path = /media/backups ?
[02:35] <FredFlinstone> thAT cant be right
[02:35] <holstein> path should do it
[02:35] <holstein> sudo fdisk -l
[02:35] <FredFlinstone> path = /media/ ...
[02:36] <FredFlinstone> ok
[02:36] <holstein> FredFlinstone: OH
[02:36] <holstein> you want to share a whole drive?
[02:36] <holstein> you might have to mount it to a directory
[02:36] <holstein> and share that path via samba
[02:36] <FredFlinstone> i want to mount all three drives
[02:37] <holstein> not sure, i didnt try that
[02:37] <FredFlinstone> share
[02:37] <holstein> i did a printer
[02:37] <holstein> and a couple folers
[02:37] <holstein> folders*
[02:37] <holstein> no reason why you can mount them /where/ever
[02:37] <holstein> and share /where/ever
[02:39] <nit-wit> hajour, thaks for your help
[02:39] <nit-wit> thanks
[02:39] <nit-wit> holstein, I lost the open source music channel
[02:39] <holstein> OH
[02:40] <holstein> nit-wit: #opensourcemusicians :)
[02:40] <hajour> your welcome nitwit
[02:42] <nit-wit> hajour, I'm going to sihn off but i will be back I sure
[02:42] <nit-wit> sign
[02:42] <hajour> ok nit-wit :)
[02:42] <hajour> sleep wel nit-wit
[02:43] <nit-wit> hajour, :)
[02:50] <FredFlinstone> sorry holstein  i had to answer the door
[02:51] <FredFlinstone> i'll check that music channel out myself, sometime
[02:52] <holstein> FredFlinstone: please do :)
[02:53] <FredFlinstone> sdb1 , ntfs,  about 1tb is one
[02:55] <FredFlinstone> path = /media/sdb1
[02:55] <FredFlinstone> public = yes, i say no?
[02:55] <holstein> depends i guess
[02:55] <FredFlinstone> in smb.conf thAT is
[02:55] <holstein> if i just had 2 boxes on the network
[02:55] <holstein> and a firewall
[02:55] <FredFlinstone> i only have one username and pass for all machines
[02:55] <holstein> and it was a desktop machine
[02:56] <holstein> i might do public
[02:56] <holstein> FredFlinstone: shoule be fine then with the user/pass scenario
[02:56] <holstein> *in theory
[02:56] <holstein> FredFlinstone: you can always test public
[02:56] <holstein> and go back afterward
[02:56] <holstein> and lock it down
[02:56] <FredFlinstone> ok,. also my nvidia settings will not stay even tho i save it
[02:57] <FredFlinstone> 1280 goes down to 1024  every boot
[02:57] <holstein> FredFlinstone: on mine
[02:57] <holstein> i made a custom xorg.conf finally
[02:57] <holstein> 10.04 box
[02:58] <holstein> 64bit
[02:58] <holstein> i forget the hardware
[02:58] <holstein> some integrated nvidia GPU
[02:58] <holstein> i cheated ;)
[02:58] <holstein> i booted a knoppix disc
[02:58] <FredFlinstone> i have a msi n210 md512h
[02:58] <holstein> and the desktop looked right
[02:58] <holstein> SO i grabbed the xorg.conf from there
[02:58] <holstein> messed with it a bit
[02:59] <holstein> and put it in buntu
[02:59] <FredFlinstone> hmm
[02:59] <FredFlinstone> and ..
[02:59] <FredFlinstone> ** (gksudo:2136): WARNING **: Invalid borders specified for theme pixmap:
[02:59] <FredFlinstone>         /home/fred/.themes/Cillop-Midnite/gtk-2.0/null.png,
[02:59] <FredFlinstone> how to fix that?
[02:59] <gstarx90> that depends on the gtk theme
[03:00] <holstein> yeah, id probably bail on the theme
[03:01] <FredFlinstone> ok, so for the share  (which may work now) where are my services? i need to either reboot or restart samba
[03:01] <FredFlinstone> sudo: /etc/init.d/samba: command not found
[03:01] <holstein> try sudo restart smbd
[03:02] <FredFlinstone> it is true - file is not there
[03:03] <FredFlinstone> ok
[03:03] <FredFlinstone> worked, i think
[03:03] <FredFlinstone> smbd start/running, process 2192
[03:04] <FredFlinstone> NOW can see the share but cannot access, does not give login prompt
[03:04] <UndiFineD> samba needs a windows machine user i think
[03:04] <holstein> hmmm
[03:04] <holstein> i would think you'll get a prompt
[03:05] <holstein> i think you just set up the users and it 'works'
[03:05] <holstein> maybe not....
[03:05] <UndiFineD> so whatever username is used on windows can be made available on samba
[03:06] <FredFlinstone> from a xp user with creds and without , same result
[03:06] <FredFlinstone> i tried from one of my boxes, and a friends
[03:06] <FredFlinstone> mine should have worked at least?
[03:07] <FredFlinstone> gotta be permissions
[03:09] <zkriesse> starcraftman: ZERGLINGS!
[03:20] <MrAnthrope> Someone have a sec to explain what "Connector" means in Sound Preferences under the Input tab. Trying to get my mic to work and there are like 10 connectors and I have no idea which one I need to be using.
[03:21] <holstein> MrAnthrope: internal mic?
[03:21] <holstein> or a mic you plug in?
[03:21] <MrAnthrope> a mic you plug in through a 3.5mm jack
[03:21] <holstein> MrAnthrope: where do you see 'connector' ?
[03:22] <MrAnthrope> I get some kind of feedback noise on some of them.
[03:22] <Mohan_chml> MrAnthrope, Microphone1/line-in
[03:22] <holstein> could be something specific to your hardware
[03:22] <MrAnthrope> In the Sound Preferences settings. Input tab.
[03:22] <MrAnthrope> input volume. Input level. Connector.
[03:22] <holstein> i have 'internal audio analog stereo'
[03:23] <holstein> hmmm
[03:23] <MrAnthrope> analog microphone / input 1 / microphone 1
[03:23] <holstein> MrAnthrope: is this 10.10 ?
[03:23] <MrAnthrope> analog microphone / input 2 / microphone 1
[03:23] <MrAnthrope> 10.04
[03:23] <holstein> cool
[03:23] <holstein> thats me too
[03:23] <MrAnthrope> analog microphone / input 1 / microphone 2
[03:23] <MrAnthrope> analog microphone / input 2 / microphone 2
[03:23] <holstein> those labels dont have to be correct
[03:24] <MrAnthrope> analog line-in / input 1
[03:24] <holstein> from what i find
[03:24] <holstein> i usually just do a little trial and error
[03:24] <holstein> and see if i can find what i need
[03:24] <holstein> look at
[03:24] <holstein> alsamixer
[03:24] <MrAnthrope> some of them back bad noises. But it's not feedback because my mic isn't working.
[03:24] <holstein> in a terminal
[03:24] <MrAnthrope> make bad noises*
[03:24] <MrAnthrope> Yeah I was looking at that.
[03:24] <holstein> hit F4
[03:24] <MrAnthrope> I don't have a volume bar over my mic in alsamixer.
[03:25] <MrAnthrope> That means it's not there, right?
[03:25] <holstein> and you'll see the 'capture devices'
[03:25] <holstein> MrAnthrope: not necessarily
[03:25] <holstein> it could just not have volume control
[03:25] <holstein> all the hardware is so different
[03:25] <holstein> MrAnthrope: this is a desktop?
[03:25] <MrAnthrope> yes
[03:25] <holstein> what card?
[03:25] <MrAnthrope> onboard.
[03:26] <holstein> lspci
[03:26] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:27] <MrAnthrope> http://paste.ubuntu.com/544270/
[03:27] <holstein> yeah, VIA can be a pain
[03:28] <MrAnthrope> oi
[03:28] <holstein> i have one that dies when you open sound preferences ;)
[03:28] <MrAnthrope> Yeah!
[03:28] <holstein> i mean, the good news is
[03:28] <MrAnthrope> See I thought it was working.
[03:28] <MrAnthrope> And then I thought I was crazy.
[03:28] <holstein> if you want to do anything with a mic
[03:28] <holstein> you should get an external interface anyways
[03:28] <MrAnthrope> awha?
[03:28] <holstein> that being said, we should be able to sort you out
[03:28] <holstein> do you have a mixer at all?
[03:29] <MrAnthrope> For strawberry daquiris.
[03:29] <holstein> hehe
[03:29] <MrAnthrope> I'm not sure?
[03:29] <holstein> MrAnthrope: what is your need for a mic?
[03:29] <holstein> podcasting?
[03:29] <MrAnthrope> Teamspeak.
[03:29] <holstein> AH
[03:29] <holstein> lest try and use your card then...
[03:30] <holstein> give me
[03:30] <holstein> aplay -l
[03:30] <MrAnthrope> I may have a spare audio card around here...
[03:30] <holstein> and
[03:30] <MrAnthrope> I have no idea what it is.
[03:30] <holstein> arecord -l
[03:30] <holstein> MrAnthrope: that might be the path of least resistance
[03:30] <holstein> disable the VIA card in the bios
[03:30] <holstein> and use another one
[03:30] <MrAnthrope> in bios... hmm...
[03:31] <holstein> and keep checking back every release or so
[03:31] <holstein> the kernel team seems to be on it
[03:31] <MrAnthrope> How do I get to my bios in Linux?
[03:31] <holstein> its just the info VIA is sharing
[03:31] <holstein> MrAnthrope: you have to do that when the machine boots up
[03:31] <MrAnthrope> http://paste.ubuntu.com/544272/
[03:31] <holstein> usually F10 or escape or something like that
[03:32] <MrAnthrope> Ok so it's the same as in Windows.
[03:32] <MrAnthrope> Sorry I'm retarded :)
[03:32] <MrAnthrope> Let me dig around and see if I can find that card and see what brand it is.
[03:32] <holstein> MrAnthrope: nah
[03:32] <MrAnthrope> ...afk
[03:32] <holstein> no worries :)
[03:37] <MrAnthrope> ok found the card. Now to see if I have any extra PCI slots...
[03:49] <holstein> MrAnthrope: how did it go?
[03:50] <holstein> i was going to say, you might want to rule out the software
[03:50] <holstein> maybe install skype
[03:50] <holstein> skype has that call testing thing
[03:50] <holstein> where it records you and you can hear it
[03:50] <MrAnthrope> Well I put the audio card in but there was no place to disable onboard audio in bios.
[03:50] <MrAnthrope> And now neither are working.
[03:50] <holstein> OR just record you mic with gnomre recorder or whatever it is
[03:50] <MrAnthrope> Sound Preferences doesn't list my hardware.
[03:51] <MrAnthrope> And lspci doesn't list multimedia audio junk anymore.
[03:51] <holstein> hmmm
[03:51] <holstein> yeah, you probably would want to be able to disable the VIA one
[03:51] <MrAnthrope> I saw video settings and junk. No audio. it's a very very old motherboard.
[03:52] <holstein> yeah, sometimes they dont have the option
[03:52] <MrAnthrope> i guess I will turn my computer off again and take out the audio card and hope my audio magically comes back lol.
[03:52] <holstein> MrAnthrope: there are a couple more tricks
[03:52] <holstein> on the VIA chip
[03:52] <MrAnthrope> ok
[03:52] <holstein> updating alsa
[03:52] <MrAnthrope> brb.
[03:52] <holstein> :)
[03:58] <MrAnthrope> omg. It's totally working.
[03:58] <MrAnthrope> All I had to do was threaten it with using another audio card.
[04:01] <holstein> hehe
[04:01] <holstein> MrAnthrope: cool
[04:02] <MrAnthrope> Thanks for your help :)
[04:02] <MrAnthrope> I wonder what I did.
[04:02] <holstein> sure, anytime, not sure i actually did anything, but its working :)
[04:03] <MrAnthrope> lol moral support?
[04:03] <holstein> hehe
[04:03] <MrAnthrope> Sometimes I just need a partner in crime and I can figure out this linux stuff.
[04:03] <holstein> i hear you
[04:03] <MrAnthrope> And other times stuff just magically starts working.
[04:03] <holstein> this seems to be a good channel for that too
[04:03] <MrAnthrope> lol
[04:04] <MrAnthrope> It's a little too quiet in here but it's good for people who need in-depth help so they don't get lost in the wall of text that is #Ubuntu.
[04:47] <head_victim> Oooohhhh shiny +v
[04:51] <tenach> hello head_victim
[04:51] <head_victim> Gday tekoholic
[04:51] <head_victim> tenach*
[04:51] <head_victim> Silly tab
[04:51] <tenach> head_victim, it's tab fail day, I swear. I keep doing so too
[04:51] <tenach> hello st33med
[04:52] <st33med> Hi tenach :)
[04:52] <head_victim> Alright, well the storm has passed over (http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR663.loop.shtml) so I should head back to bed, work again tonight.
[05:02] <FredFlinstone> anyone i got a timeout trying to share - //ASUS1/MEDIA	/media/MEDIA	cifs	credentials=/home/fred/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777	0	0
[05:02] <FredFlinstone> that is suposed to work
[05:02] <FredFlinstone> it donmt
[05:02] <FredFlinstone> it don't
[05:03] <FredFlinstone> according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[05:03] <FredFlinstone> HELP!
[05:03] <FredFlinstone> i was under the section "Mount password protected network folders"
[05:04] <holstein> did they mount without the passwords?
[05:05] <MrAnthrope> The upload/download speeds listed in the system monitor... is that just for my computer, or is that for my whole network?
[05:05] <holstein> MrAnthrope: depends
[05:06] <holstein> is it the only computer on your network?
[05:06] <MrAnthrope> no
[05:06] <holstein> it'll just be that box
[05:06] <MrAnthrope> My computer has just randomly started uploading at 50KiB/s
[05:06] <MrAnthrope> And I have no idea what it's uploading.
[05:06] <MrAnthrope> XChat says I'm lagging by 10 seconds.
[05:07] <holstein> update manger?
[05:07] <holstein> something in the background like that, maybe
[05:07] <MrAnthrope> Pretty sure I have that set for like 3am.
[05:08] <holstein> well, you got a firewall?
[05:08] <holstein> and your not running as root?
[05:08] <MrAnthrope> ... I killed the update notifier and it seems to have stopped.
[05:08] <FredFlinstone> i give up
[05:08] <holstein> FredFlinstone: maybe try opening everything up
[05:08] <holstein> the samba shares
[05:08] <MrAnthrope> Why on earth would it be uploading at that speed? I didn't even know my internet connection could upload that quickly.
[05:09] <holstein> see if you can get it running the way you want
[05:09] <holstein> unsecure
[05:09] <holstein> and then lock it down
[05:09] <FredFlinstone> holstein, do not know what you mean :)
[05:10] <FredFlinstone> ok first, i have the shares working from ubuntu
[05:10] <holstein> FredFlinstone: totally, i gave up on samba plenty of times
[05:10] <FredFlinstone> now i need them working to it
[05:10] <holstein> that last time i was talking about setting it up
[05:10] <holstein> everything was working fine
[05:11] <holstein> and it wasnt that bad
[05:11] <holstein> that was for someone else
[05:11] <holstein> and i had already wiped all my windows boxes
[05:11] <holstein> FredFlinstone: if you have a spare box
[05:11] <FredFlinstone> WELL MAYBE TOMORROW, I HAVE HAD IT FOR NOW, THANKS FOR YOUR HELP
[05:11] <FredFlinstone> oops
[05:11] <holstein> i found freeNAS to be a kind of learning experience
[05:12] <FredFlinstone> spare box for what?
[05:12] <FredFlinstone> i have some yes
[05:12] <holstein> for a freeNAS box
[05:12] <holstein> doesnt have to be much
[05:12] <holstein> has a nice web GUI
[05:12] <holstein> and you can run FTP ssh samba
[05:12] <holstein> whatever
[05:12] <holstein> get in from buntu and windows easily
[05:13] <FredFlinstone> i have been into dos , windows, novell,  since 1982, but linux since 2008 and only when i can find time
[05:14] <holstein> cool
[05:14] <holstein> you'll get it then
[05:15] <FredFlinstone> i am SO fed up with microshaft it's unreal, used to be a dealer for them, i want to eventually help spread ubuntu around
[05:16] <holstein> hehe
[05:16] <FredFlinstone> windoww is STILL no good, win 7 is vista #2 (crap #2)
[05:16] <holstein> works for some i suppose
[05:16] <holstein> im much happier not having windows running here anymore
[05:17] <FredFlinstone> well as a win support person i have too many people with problems on new machines to be ok with win7
[05:17] <holstein> FredFlinstone: you need to share a lot of data?
[05:17] <holstein> via samba?
[05:17] <holstein> dropbox works great
[05:17] <holstein> if you dont have it...
[05:18] <holstein> http://holstein.shacknet.nu/dropbox
[05:18] <FredFlinstone> i now do av scans and such from win under vmware in ubuntu here
[05:18] <FredFlinstone> i have about 6tb online
[05:18] <holstein> yeah... dropbox wont do that...
[05:18] <holstein> i just had a couple GB i really wanted to sync
[05:18] <holstein> and some music that i used a server for
[05:19] <FredFlinstone> i have a small in-my-house repair shop, i also hold client backups
[05:19] <holstein> http://sockso.pu-gh.com/
[05:19] <holstein> FredFlinstone: yeah, you dont want to play around with that
[05:19] <holstein> client backups..
[05:20] <FredFlinstone> yeah i am just a backup of a backup for them - no contracts , just im a nice guy :)
[05:20] <FredFlinstone> still dont wanna lose any
[05:21] <FredFlinstone> want to do a resize and very nervous on a full 1.5tb ntfs, have you used gparted for somthing like that?
[05:21] <holstein> yeah, but i would do backups
[05:22] <holstein> i just did a couple resizes today
[05:22] <FredFlinstone> understood, did you need the backups? :)
[05:22] <holstein> challenging when you have that much data
[05:22] <holstein> FredFlinstone: i would
[05:22] <holstein> i mean, in theory, no
[05:22] <holstein> but anything could happen
[05:23] <FredFlinstone> i am gonna move half off first, no room to move it all
[05:24] <holstein> i usually hang on to backups for a certain amount of time
[05:24] <holstein> couple months or a year
[05:24] <holstein> and i tell the folks that
[07:51] <Hau5Mau5> hi everyone
[07:52] <tenach> hi Hau5Mau5
[08:37] <broke_dwn> hello
[08:38] <Mohan_chml> Hello broke_dwn
[08:38] <broke_dwn> could i get a bit of help...for a minute?
[08:38] <broke_dwn> please
[08:39] <Mohan_chml> Shoot
[08:40] <broke_dwn> i can't take myself out of the audio group
[08:40] <broke_dwn> the buttons don't work in the user and groups menu
[08:41] <broke_dwn> hello?
[08:41] <Mohan_chml> ah! at the panel?
[08:41] <broke_dwn> yeah
[08:41] <Mohan_chml> have you upgraded the machine recently?
[08:41] <Mohan_chml> or did any changes?
[08:41] <Mohan_chml> and it works fine with the main account?
[08:41] <broke_dwn> yeah...
[08:42] <broke_dwn> i had no sound before that though
[08:42] <broke_dwn> but never tried removing myself
[08:42] <Mohan_chml> button works good in any one account?
[08:42] <broke_dwn> no
[08:42] <broke_dwn> not in the panel
[08:42] <broke_dwn> in the user and groups MENU
[08:43] <broke_dwn> i can't make changes
[08:43] <Mohan_chml> you mean system->administration->users and groups
[08:43] <Mohan_chml> and you want to disable audio for some users?
[08:44] <Mohan_chml> aww buttons in it
[08:44] <Mohan_chml> give me a minute to look for it
[08:44] <tenach> broke_dwn, I just replied to your thread;
[08:44] <tenach> broke_dwn, when you are logged in, you are put into the audio group so that you can hear sounds
[08:44] <tenach> You are taken out of it when you're not logged in.
[08:45] <broke_dwn> what thread...
[08:45] <broke_dwn> jk
[08:45] <broke_dwn> thanks
[08:45] <tenach> broke_dwn, so I don't think you need to take yourself out of it unless you are having problems - but even then, I don't think you should really have to do so.
[08:45] <broke_dwn> ...i have no sound regardless
[08:45] <tenach> broke_dwn, then taking yourself out of audio won't fix that.
[08:45] <broke_dwn> ok
[08:46] <broke_dwn> my soundcard is installed properly
[08:46] <broke_dwn> i know that
[08:46] <tenach> What sound card do you have?
[08:46] <broke_dwn> i thought it was broke
[08:46] <Mohan_chml> tenach, thread please
[08:46] <broke_dwn> but the bios sees it
[08:46] <broke_dwn> and the mic makes sounds
[08:46] <tenach> Mohan_chml, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10244408
[08:46] <broke_dwn> but Gnome Alsa doesn't see it
[08:47] <broke_dwn> ....
[08:47] <tenach> broke_dwn, is the sound umuted in System -> Preferences -> Sound?
[08:48] <tenach> broke_dwn, what does it say under the 'hardware' tab on that screen?
[08:48] <broke_dwn> no
[08:48] <broke_dwn> no hardware appears
[08:48] <broke_dwn> but i'll double check
[08:48] <tenach> broke_dwn, okay.
[08:49] <broke_dwn> nope
[08:49] <broke_dwn> not muted
[08:49] <tenach> broke_dwn, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[08:49] <tenach> 10.10 ?
[08:49] <broke_dwn> my sound worked perfectly for a while
[08:49] <broke_dwn> yes
[08:50] <tenach> 32bit?
[08:50] <broke_dwn> 10.10
[08:50] <broke_dwn> yes
[08:50] <broke_dwn> i think
[08:50] <tenach> ok
[08:50] <Mohan_chml> broke_dwn, please pastebin the result in typing 'lspci' in terminal
[08:50] <broke_dwn> my laptop is old
[08:50] <Mohan_chml> !pastebin | broke_dwn
[08:50] <ubot2> broke_dwn: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[08:51] <tenach> Mohan_chml, I would sudo lshw -c sound
[08:51] <tenach> Mohan_chml, er, either works.
[08:51] <Mohan_chml> tenach, so what about trying bringing the access to root account and checking?
[08:51] <Mohan_chml> tenach, (:
[08:52] <hajour> hai Axlin
[08:52] <Axlin> hello
[08:53] <broke_dwn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/544337/
[08:53] <tenach> hmm. it's not showing a sound card Mohan_chml
[08:54] <Mohan_chml> :|
[08:54] <broke_dwn> wow...
[08:54] <broke_dwn> i know its installed the bios says so
[08:54] <Mohan_chml> broke_dwn, goto system-> administration -> hardware drivers
[08:54] <tenach> broke_dwn, I understand. SOmetimes Ubuntu doesn't see things right away.
[08:54] <broke_dwn> it atttached to the motherboard
[08:54] <broke_dwn> ...yes ok
[08:54] <JoeMaverickSett> broke_dwn: additional drivers
[08:55] <hajour> Axlin,  need some help to ithink
[08:55] <Mohan_chml> JoeMaverickSett, :P I am at Lucid
[08:55] <JoeMaverickSett> Mohan_chml: upgrade!! XD
[08:55] <Mohan_chml> Nope
[08:55] <JoeMaverickSett> :|
[08:55] <tenach> broke_dwn, could you pastebin the results of
[08:55] <tenach> sudo lshw -c sound
[08:56] <hajour> uhm anyone can 1 of you help Axlin ?
[08:56] <tenach> Axlin, what'cha need help with?
[08:56] <hajour> great thanks:)
[08:56] <Axlin> hm? i didn't need help with anything
[08:57] <tenach> hajour, no problem.
[08:57] <Axlin> you may be mistaking me for somebody else. thanks though
[08:57] <tenach> Axlin, Okay. :D
[08:57] <hajour> a ok thought so sorry then
[08:57] <tenach> Nice to see you here in any case! :)
[08:57] <Axlin> no worries :)
[08:57] <Axlin> haha thanks
[08:58] <hajour> often come s a new one here dont say nothing but need help so ...
[08:58] <broke_dwn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/544344/
[08:58] <broke_dwn> ...
[08:59] <tenach> broke_dwn, sorry, should be sudo lshw -c sound
[09:00] <broke_dwn> nothing...it disapeared
[09:00] <tenach> Hm. okay.
[09:00] <broke_dwn> ...seriously
[09:00] <Mohan_chml> broke_dwn, okay
[09:00] <tenach> Mohan_chml, can you take over? I'm going to do some research.
[09:00] <Mohan_chml> it is not identifying your driver
[09:01] <Mohan_chml> tenach, will give a try :)
[09:01] <broke_dwn> there are no proprietary drivers on this system
[09:01] <Mohan_chml> broke_dwn, goto system-> administration -> additional drivers
[09:01] <Mohan_chml> ah!
[09:01] <broke_dwn> say the menu of hardware drivers
[09:01] <broke_dwn> i cant go there
[09:02] <broke_dwn> i went sudo
[09:02] <broke_dwn> i dont have that menu
[09:02] <JoeMaverickSett> broke_dwn: on your gnome-panel, System tab?
[09:02] <broke_dwn> im in openbox
[09:03] <broke_dwn> the menu is not paneled
[09:03] <broke_dwn> ...no luck
[09:04] <JoeMaverickSett> broke_dwn: try jockey-gtk from the terminal
[09:04] <broke_dwn> i'd have to log out and log back in...
[09:04] <broke_dwn> which would be most inconvienient
[09:04] <broke_dwn> how?
[09:05] <broke_dwn> no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[09:05] <broke_dwn> it says
[09:06] <broke_dwn> ...
[09:06] <JoeMaverickSett> broke_dwn: could you try the command: jockey-gtk from the terminal?
[09:06] <broke_dwn> i did
[09:06] <broke_dwn> thats what came up
[09:06] <JoeMaverickSett> :O
[09:06] <broke_dwn> what!
[09:07] <broke_dwn> ....yse u
[09:07] <Mohan_chml> broke_dwn, your hardware is not detectd
[09:07] <broke_dwn> so?
[09:07] <tenach> broke_dwn, is it integrated into your motherboard or a separate card?
[09:07] <broke_dwn> ...is that bad
[09:07] <broke_dwn> like explode in your face bad?
[09:07] <broke_dwn> ...
[09:08] <tenach> Nope.
[09:08] <broke_dwn> ahh...damn
[09:08] <tenach> Is it integrated or a separate card?
[09:08] <broke_dwn> integrated
[09:08] <tenach> okay.
[09:08] <Mohan_chml> broke_dwn, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[09:08] <Mohan_chml> may be that will help you
[09:08] <broke_dwn> i went there
[09:08] <broke_dwn> doesnt woprk
[09:09] <broke_dwn> i'll re check
[09:09] <Mohan_chml> ah!
[09:09] <Mohan_chml> okies
[09:09] <Mohan_chml> tenach, then re-install kernel?
[09:09] <tenach> hang on :)
[09:09] <Mohan_chml> (:
[09:10] <broke_dwn> what
[09:10] <broke_dwn> that would take hours on end...
[09:10] <tenach> broke_dwn, no it wouldn't.  The kernel is a relatively small piece of Ubuntu.
[09:11] <broke_dwn> oh
[09:11] <broke_dwn> :P
[09:11] <broke_dwn> ok
[09:11] <broke_dwn> what do i do?
[09:13] <Mohan_chml> broke_dwn, check whether the link I provided helps
[09:13] <tenach> Mohan_chml, I don't think it will because Ubuntu doesn't know there's a sound card.
[09:14] <Mohan_chml> awwh!
[09:14] <broke_dwn> ...so?
[09:14] <broke_dwn> ...damn
[09:14] <broke_dwn> just suffer?
[09:14] <tenach> broke_dwn, desktop or laptop?
[09:15] <broke_dwn> laptop
[09:15] <tenach> What brand and model is it?
[09:15] <broke_dwn> dell latitude c610
[09:17] <broke_dwn> ....
[09:19] <broke_dwn> hello?
[09:19] <Mohan_chml> I have no arrows to shoot except a re-install or may be try Lucid if it again fails
[09:20]  * tenach is still looking around
[09:20] <broke_dwn> i don't have a cd drive anymore
[09:20] <broke_dwn> :)
[09:20] <broke_dwn> this sucks big time
[09:20] <broke_dwn> windows might suck, but at least i can hear people tell me
[09:20] <broke_dwn> my laptop is old
[09:21] <broke_dwn> *
[09:21] <tenach> Okay so
[09:22] <tenach> your laptop has an ac97 soundcard in it, and there's a bug in 10.10 - checking to see if it was solved.
[09:23] <Mohan_chml> broke_dwn, try remaining patient =]
[09:24] <broke_dwn> i am
[09:24] <broke_dwn> im just trying to humor you
[09:24] <broke_dwn> ...thank for the help
[09:24] <broke_dwn> its finals week
[09:28] <broke_dwn> i'm still here
[09:28] <broke_dwn> obviously
[09:29] <Mohan_chml> broke_dwn, try putting a Live USB of 10.10 and check whether the sound works
[09:29] <Mohan_chml> there is no sound issue in that card recently
[09:29] <Mohan_chml> we are still checking it
[09:29] <broke_dwn> cant...boot from usb
[09:29] <Mohan_chml> why?
[09:29] <broke_dwn> i cant boot from usb
[09:29] <Mohan_chml> why?
[09:29] <broke_dwn> old computer...i've tried
[09:30] <Mohan_chml> what happened when you tried?
[09:30] <broke_dwn> ...nothing
[09:30] <Mohan_chml> you pressed f12 and set the boot option?
[09:30] <broke_dwn> i dont remeber, nor have a usb to try again
[09:30] <Mohan_chml> or in the BIOS options?
[09:30] <tenach> broke_dwn, sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa-base
[09:31] <broke_dwn> ...i cant updta my bios without floppy
[09:31] <broke_dwn> tenach, ok
[09:31] <tenach> That's the last thing I can think of. Wish I could be of more help.
[09:34] <broke_dwn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/544351/
[09:34] <broke_dwn> did it work?
[09:35] <broke_dwn> ....
[09:35] <Mohan_chml> No
[09:35] <broke_dwn> lolz, plenty lolz
[09:35] <broke_dwn> thtas linux for you
[09:35] <Mohan_chml> broke_dwn, we cant say any other options except a reinstall
[09:35] <broke_dwn> hes become aware
[09:36] <broke_dwn> ...there are other option...
[09:36] <broke_dwn> oh well
[09:36] <broke_dwn> theres a bug
[09:36] <broke_dwn> why would i reinstall
[09:37] <Mohan_chml> if there is something you have done on the back unknowingly, then, a Live CD or USB can check
[09:38] <Mohan_chml> maybe you played with the dispatcher
[09:39] <broke_dwn> how would i do that
[09:39] <broke_dwn> i did prank call 911 before
[09:39] <broke_dwn> thats about it..
[09:39] <broke_dwn> any help?
[09:40] <hajour> hai broke_dwn
[09:40] <broke_dwn> hi
[09:41] <hajour> i think there away a moment.
[09:41] <Mohan_chml> when you had your audio worked and is not working now, then you did something unknowingly on the back
[09:41] <broke_dwn> how
[09:41] <broke_dwn> update?
[09:41] <hajour> a there you are
[09:41] <Mohan_chml> you had your audio work, when you installed right?
[09:41] <hajour> ok by :)
[09:41] <broke_dwn> ...maybe
[09:41] <broke_dwn> i had sound after that
[09:41] <broke_dwn> i think
[09:41] <broke_dwn> yeas
[09:42] <broke_dwn> yes
[09:42] <Mohan_chml> broke_dwn, try restarting and get into the older kernel versions
[09:42] <broke_dwn> ok
[09:46] <broke_down> it says i have to load kernel first...
[09:46] <Mohan_chml> you changed something recently?
[09:46] <Mohan_chml> or deleted some entries?
[09:47] <hajour> hai timo
[09:47] <Timo_> hey hajour
[09:47] <hajour> close to purmerend the beemster
[09:48] <hajour> do you need help?
[09:48] <broke_down> no
[09:48] <broke_down> i dont think i did
[09:48] <broke_down> i shut down and logged back in
[09:48] <broke_down> it was broke_dwn
[09:49] <Mohan_chml> when it says that you have to load kernels first, I think it is missing the kernel
[09:49] <broke_down> oh...
[09:50] <Mohan_chml> if you can get into recovery mode, then try setting password for root and give a try
[09:52] <broke_down> how?
[09:54] <Mohan_chml> broke_down, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:54] <broke_down> to set password?
[09:55] <Mohan_chml> yeah you have to set password and then have to login into root
[09:57] <broke_down> i know my root password...
[09:57] <Mohan_chml> broke_down, tried logging intot hat account?
[09:59] <broke_down> no
[09:59] <broke_down> how
[09:59] <Mohan_chml> login name root and password you have
[10:01] <broke_down> but root is not an option
[10:01] <broke_down> ...
[10:01] <Mohan_chml> then you have to enable root account from the recovery mode
[10:01] <broke_down> its late
[10:01] <broke_down> i'll try again...
[10:02] <broke_down> how
[10:02] <Mohan_chml> broke_down, the only way I know is checking with Live CD or USB
[10:02] <broke_down> good night
[10:06] <ibuclaw> sudo slap wrists
[10:07] <Mohan_chml> ibuclaw, you want my super user to do that? :D JK
[10:07]  * Mohan_chml slaps himself
[11:00] <nishi> hi
[11:00] <Mohan_chml> Hello
[11:00] <nishi> need help with the Ubuntu 10.10
[11:01] <nishi> top and bottom panels are not getting displayed
[11:01] <bioterror> alt+f2 gnome-panel
[11:01] <bioterror> or something like that
[11:01] <bioterror> should show them
[11:02] <nishi> got that \
[11:02] <nishi> showing the error in ~/.xsession-errors
[11:02] <bioterror> !pastebin | nishi
[11:02] <ubot2> nishi: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[11:03] <bioterror> could you pastebin it to use
[11:03] <nishi> its on my desktop which i cannot take snpshot of
[11:04] <nishi> if you want i can assist you with specific error
[11:04] <bioterror> open terminal
[11:04] <bioterror> and say: sudo killall gnome-panel && gnome-panel
[11:04] <bioterror> you can open terminal with alt+f2
[11:05] <nishi> already on the terminal now by pressing the alt+f2
[11:07] <nishi> now what needs be done
[11:07] <bioterror> Thu13:04 <+bioterror> and say: sudo killall gnome-panel && gnome-panel
[11:07] <nishi> done that
[11:07] <bioterror> did you get panels back+
[11:08] <bioterror> ?
[11:08] <nishi> error is prompted after issuing the command yu mentioned:
[11:09] <bioterror> what kind of error
[11:09] <nishi> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display
[11:09] <bioterror> w00t
[11:09] <nishi> thats the error i m getting
[11:12] <nishi> what can be done in this case
[11:12] <bioterror> can you open any programs?
[11:13] <nishi> like  ?
[11:13] <bioterror> firefox?
[11:14] <nishi> how to switch back to the desktop from the terminal now
[11:15] <bioterror> oh
[11:15] <bioterror> you're using CONSOLE (TTY)
[11:15] <nishi> yeah
[11:15] <bioterror> ctrl+alt+f1 is what you pressed
[11:15] <nishi> yes
[11:15] <bioterror> ofcourse it doesnt open graphical programs
[11:15] <bioterror> f7 is X
[11:15] <bioterror> I never said to use ctrl-alt-f2
[11:16] <bioterror> I said to use alt+f2 to open "launch" window
[11:16] <nishi> could you wait
[11:16] <nishi> guess i messed up
[11:17] <nishi> basically whats happening is when i log in ...the user gets kicked off and sign in window appears again...after fooling sometime in console ...i can get to GUI but without the panels...
[11:18] <nishi> now again the same issue is happening
[11:18] <bioterror> that sounds like you're having a wrong uummmm
[11:18] <bioterror> session started
[11:18] <nishi> can log in the User profile but get kicked off immediately even before the desktop loads properly
[11:19] <bioterror> I think you've had xubuntu or something else installed
[11:19] <bioterror> and now using ubuntu
[11:19] <bioterror> and it tries to start xubuntu-session and cant find it and brings back to gdm
[11:19] <bioterror> check your session settings
[11:19] <nishi> no thats the UBUNTU 10.10....freshly installed ...was working yesterday
[11:19] <bioterror> the default can be wrong
[11:19] <bioterror> make a new default
[11:19] <nishi> how to check the session settings
[11:19] <nishi> ???
[11:19] <bioterror> from login screen
[11:20] <nishi> yeah those are correct ones
[11:20] <nishi> whats a user defined session
[11:21] <nishi> >>
[11:21] <nishi> digisol123
[11:21] <bioterror> choose another Ubuntu session
[11:21] <bioterror> asdasd -another
[11:21] <bioterror> choose ubuntu session, if there's one named that one
[11:22] <nishi> i got ubuntu desktop edition ....in session list along with recovery console, user defined session and safe mode
[11:22] <nishi> which one to choose ....default was ubuntu desktop edition
[11:22] <bioterror> take the ubuntu desktop edition
[11:22] <nishi> was using the same earlier
[11:24] <nishi> sorry the issue is still there... the user gets kicked off...the Desktop appears along with all panels and then returns back to the log in screen
[11:26] <bioterror> needs more thinking
[11:26] <nishi> i can get the screen properly with the safe mode
[11:32] <bioterror> I would delete .gnome2*
[11:32] <bioterror> could solve problems :D
[11:32] <Mohan_chml> nishi, just type the commands in the link and give a try
[11:32] <Mohan_chml> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4663517&postcount=9
[11:32] <bioterror> Mohan_chml, panels arent problem anymore
[11:32] <Mohan_chml> aww
[11:32] <bioterror> seems like she/he cant log in
[11:32] <Mohan_chml> sorry missed the logs
[11:35] <nishi> its he ...
[11:35] <nishi> :)
[11:36] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[11:36] <bioterror> hi fox
[11:36] <nishi> i can log in with the UBUNTU safe mode and get all panels and stable desktop but with the Normal UBUNTU desktop mode ...it kicks me off
[11:37] <bioterror> nishi, you really could login to TTY again and do: rm -rf .gnome2*
[11:37] <bioterror> then try to login again from the GDM ;)
[11:37] <bioterror> since your installation is new
[11:37] <bioterror> you dont have much to loose
[11:37] <nishi> what will this command do...remove the Gnome or what
[11:37] <nishi> ...
[11:38] <bioterror> just some gnome configurations
[11:38] <nishi> ok
[11:38] <nishi> wait...issueing the command
[11:39] <nishi> done
[11:39] <nishi> now what to do
[11:39] <bioterror> try to login again from the login screen
[11:39] <bioterror> with ubuntu desktop edition
[11:41] <nishi> same issue :(
[11:41] <nishi> digisol123
[11:42] <bioterror> hard to solve problem if it doesnt prompt anything
[11:46] <bioterror> hmm
[11:46] <nishi> is there any issue of intel drivers or something
[11:46] <bioterror> that has nothing to do with graphics, I think
[11:46] <bioterror> since your login screen is working
[11:47] <bioterror> did you do a upgrade or something before it broke up?
[11:47] <nishi> what if i use KDE with it since the GNOME seems to crash on this \
[11:47] <bioterror> your choise
[11:47] <nishi> no upgrades ...clean as a whistle
[11:47] <nishi> but how to do that
[11:47] <nishi> can you guide me
[11:47] <nishi> get a KDE desktop
[11:48] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:48] <bioterror> then you have to remove gnome
[11:48] <bioterror> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[11:50] <nishi> ok
[11:52] <bioterror> easy like a monday morning :-)
[11:54] <Mohan_chml> he is still here?
[11:54] <nishi> looking at the command doesnt look like much ...;)
[11:54] <Mohan_chml> nishi, got the problem cleared?
[11:54] <nishi> nope not yet
[11:54] <nishi> still working on that
[11:54] <Mohan_chml> nishi, maybe your home got filled
[11:54] <Mohan_chml> check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=382213
[11:56] <nishi> no one partition ...120GB
[11:56] <nishi> full empty
[11:56] <Mohan_chml> bioterror, you think there is any luck for that?
[11:56] <Mohan_chml> nishi, what is the size of the ubuntu partition you have?
[11:56] <bioterror> Mohan_chml, 2007 :G
[11:57] <bioterror> hard to say
[11:57] <Mohan_chml> bioterror, but home can may be filled
[11:58] <Mohan_chml> brb
[11:59] <nishi> i m still trying to figure out the huge commands on that link you gave me @bioterror\
[12:03] <duanedesign> daniels development ucast http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ubuntu-development-with-daniel-holbach
[12:08] <engineer> unity(11.04) is plugin for compiz?
[12:09] <engineer> unity(11.04) is plugin for compiz?
[12:21] <nishi> finally started the KDE installation on the system....
[12:41] <duanedesign> engineer: yes
[14:33] <harrisonk> I am having some video card driver issues and I need to know where to start looking for a problem
[14:41] <Mohan_chml> harrisonk, your card is not detected?
[14:41] <harrisonk> it "works" but only lspci shows anything
[14:42] <harrisonk> I can't run any openGL program
[14:42] <harrisonk> I tryed running Flight Gear and it gave me a segmentation fault
[14:43] <Mohan_chml> have you found the packages and tried installing manually?
[14:43] <harrisonk> packages?
[14:44] <harrisonk> as in drivers?
[14:44] <Mohan_chml> for that video driver
[14:45] <Mohan_chml> whats the video driver? Nvdia?
[14:45] <harrisonk> what would the packages look like?
[14:45] <harrisonk> ATI
[14:45] <harrisonk> ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] (Secondary) (rev 01)
[14:46] <harrisonk> from lspci
[14:46] <Mohan_chml> harrisonk, is is worthy? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[14:46] <Mohan_chml> I am searching for more solutions
[14:46] <Mohan_chml> you also do
[14:46] <harrisonk> I shall look
[14:50] <Mohan_chml> harrisonk, btw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/486367
[14:50] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 486367 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "RV280 Radeon 9200 pro Hardware not fully supported. (affects: 6) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Expired]
[14:51] <harrisonk> drat
[14:51] <harrisonk> but it was working before
[14:51] <Mohan_chml> :(
[14:51] <harrisonk> how odd
[14:51] <Mohan_chml> and that bug also was set as expired
[14:53] <harrisonk> mohan_chml: have you ever used FG? (flightgear)
[14:53] <Mohan_chml> nope
[14:53] <harrisonk> it's fun
[14:53] <harrisonk> it's a flight simulator
[14:53]  * Mohan_chml is nomming now
[14:53] <Mohan_chml> xD
[14:54] <harrisonk> ah what time is it there?
[14:54] <Mohan_chml> 20:18
[14:54] <harrisonk> it's 9:54 here
[14:56] <Mohan_chml> harrisonk, I am ahead of you :P
[14:57] <harrisonk> what day is it where you are?
[14:57] <Mohan_chml> Dec 16
[14:57] <harrisonk> the 16th here too
[14:57] <harrisonk> how does tonight look for me?
[14:57] <harrisonk> ;)
[14:57] <Mohan_chml> harrisonk, (:
[14:58] <Mohan_chml> and got any solutions?
[14:58] <Mohan_chml> try to follow the link I gave
[14:58] <Mohan_chml> there may be some luck
[14:58] <harrisonk> I was reading through the link you gave and it doesn't show how to install the new driver
[14:59] <Mohan_chml> argh!
[14:59] <Mohan_chml> no how to configure ?
[14:59]  * Mohan_chml goez there
[15:00] <Mohan_chml> harrisonk, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver#Problem:%20%20Need%20to%20fully%20remove%20-fglrx%20and%20reinstall%20-ati%20from%20scratch
[15:00] <Mohan_chml> OMG big LINK :|
[15:00] <Hau5Mau5> wow, what an ugly url :P
[15:00] <Mohan_chml> :P
[15:01] <harrisonk> I went there and am working on it
[15:01] <Mohan_chml> okies
[15:03] <harrisonk> I did what it said so be back in a sec
[15:06] <harrisonk> I ran glxinfo and got this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/544459/
[15:08] <harrisonk> It looks to work
[15:09] <Mohan_chml> YAY FTW!
[15:09] <harrisonk> FGrun runs
[15:09] <harrisonk> (it didn't before
[15:09] <harrisonk> )
[15:10] <Mohan_chml> Cool B-)
[15:10] <Mohan_chml> harrisonk, send me 10 $ for my help :D
[15:11] <harrisonk> Via paypal?
[15:11] <harrisonk> :P
[15:11] <Mohan_chml> lol was kidding
[15:11] <Mohan_chml> :P
[15:12] <harrisonk> if you get $10 then Jester needs $20
[15:12] <pedro3005> I'll take it
[15:12] <Mohan_chml> O_O
[15:12]  * Mohan_chml stares at pedro3005
[15:12] <harrisonk> (Jester is on irc.flightgear.org #flightgear)
[15:12] <Mohan_chml> :o
[15:13] <pedro3005> Mohan_chml, tell me something to code in haskell
[15:14] <Mohan_chml> pedro3005, get an input from my terminal and display it in yours =]
[15:14] <pedro3005> Mohan_chml, we call that IRC
[15:14] <Mohan_chml> but I am not typing at terminal now
[15:14] <Mohan_chml> :P
[15:15] <pedro3005> Mohan_chml, i haven't learned sockets :|
[15:15] <Mohan_chml> its not my fault then :P
[15:17]  * Mohan_chml points pedro3005 and starts laughing
[15:17] <pedro3005> Mohan_chml, you don't even know python shut up
[15:17] <pedro3005> :p
[15:17] <Mohan_chml> lol xP. actually I forgot :P
[17:33] <kristian-aalborg> hi all
[17:48] <nirazio> I am new to ubuntu.Can anyone help me??
[17:48] <IAmNotThatGuy> nirazio, sure =]
[17:49] <tenach> !ask
[17:49] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[17:51] <nirazio> IAmNotThatGuy: Is there any guide which helps me in migration from windows to ubuntu.
[17:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> nirazio, I prefer you to look at Ubuntu manual. http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[17:53] <IAmNotThatGuy> nirazio, and you really have to do one thing for the next one month. if you have dual boot, then forget logging into M$ and you will find Ubuntu a good one ;)
[17:53] <JoeMaverickSett> nirazio: or here; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows :)
[17:54] <JoeMaverickSett> nirazio: and what IAmNotThatGuy said, too. :) use M$ when it is really necessary.
[17:57] <nirazio> sure :)
[17:58] <nirazio> what is repositories in ubuntu???
[17:58] <IAmNotThatGuy> nirazio, trusted locations to download packages
[17:59] <IAmNotThatGuy> s/packages/ updates and softwares
[18:00] <nirazio> can you give some guides for installation and uninstallations??
[18:00] <IAmNotThatGuy> nirazio, installing a software?
[18:01] <IAmNotThatGuy> you can find Applications-> Ubuntu Software center
[18:01] <IAmNotThatGuy> and for updates, system-> Administration-> update manager
[18:03] <JoeMaverickSett> nirazio: look over these too, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/add-applications/C/index.html
[18:09] <nirazio> JoeMaverickSett: Thankyou
[18:10] <JoeMaverickSett> nirazio: you're welcome. happy exploring + using! :)
[18:11] <nirazio> JoeMaverickSett: Do i want to install any antivirus??
[18:11] <JoeMaverickSett> nirazio: i don't think so. :)
[18:12] <holstein> nirazio: i usually suggest trying to run firefox and openoffice on windows
[18:12] <holstein> maybe some other cross platform apps
[18:12] <nirazio> JoeMaverickSett: I heared some viruses exist in linux..Is it so??
[18:12] <holstein> that are in buntu
[18:13] <holstein> SO when you get there, you find some common ground
[18:13] <holstein> you'll probably find you dont *need* to install anything for a while
[18:15] <holstein> nirazio: i dont think its so much that viruses dont exist
[18:15] <holstein> its an issue of the way the systems are set up
[18:15] <holstein> in windows the user usually has administrator rights
[18:15] <holstein> and thats not the case with buntu
[18:16] <holstein> makes it more challenging to attack
[18:16] <JoeMaverickSett> nirazio: might be those transmitted through malicious websites or stuff like that.
[18:16] <holstein> IF your worriedd about it, i say go for it
[18:16] <holstein> do what makes you feel comfortable
[18:16] <holstein> am i running antivirus? no
[18:18] <nirazio> I use thumb drives in my system so do i need antivirus for that??Coz i use it copy some files from windows pc and so on..
[18:18] <IAmNotThatGuy> nirazio, 1) do download packages from trusted links. 2) do not login as root 3) know about the reason why we have the command "sudo"
[18:19] <JoeMaverickSett> !sudo
[18:19] <ubot2> sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[18:19] <JoeMaverickSett> nirazio: sudo ^
[18:19] <IAmNotThatGuy> that will do it for you and if you follow those, you never have to worry about viruses :)
[18:19] <bioterror> !flood | JoeMaverickSett
[18:19] <ubot2> JoeMaverickSett: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[18:19] <bioterror> JoeMaverickSett, remember to use | ;)
[18:19] <JoeMaverickSett> bioterror: :'(
[18:19] <JoeMaverickSett> bioterror: bully :P
[18:19] <IAmNotThatGuy> LOLz
[18:39] <Silver_Fox_> Goodbye
[18:39] <bioterror> bye
[19:20]  * meindian523 wonders if anybody could possibly need the help of a stagnated meindian523
[19:20] <meindian523> :P
[19:21] <bioterror> could you fix my amd64 natty :)
[19:21] <bioterror> sun-java6 would be nice also
[19:21] <bioterror> :)
[19:24] <meindian523> bioterror, unfortunately no, I no longer have access to a 64 bit box :(
[19:39] <reaper_> How do I setup a Brothers wireless printer and scanner in 10.10?
[19:40] <bioterror> !printers
[19:40] <ubot2> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[19:41] <bioterror> I wasnt sure if that was in there
[19:41] <reaper_> thanks
[19:53] <nirazio> what this command will do "sudo usermod -p '!' root"
[19:56] <reaper_> How do I install i386 architecture
[19:58] <kristian-aalborg> hi all
[19:59] <kristian-aalborg> soooo.... I installed 10.4 on an sd card but grub2 gives me "no such device" and "cannot get C/H/S values" - what to do from here?
[20:00] <UndiFineD> o/
[20:02] <kristian-aalborg> raise my arm?
[20:02] <kristian-aalborg> :P
[20:11] <FredFlinstone> anyone - in sharing my win box to ubuntu, where does stuff go to mount and share an ntfs win box, i know fstab needs entries (tried a couple variations from webpages without luck) , is there other files to edit? must be
[20:15] <reaper_> how do I install 32 bit deb packages on 64 bit system
[20:43] <FredFlinstone> anyone - in sharing my win box to ubuntu, where does stuff go to mount and share an ntfs win box, i know fstab needs entries (tried a couple variations from webpages without luck) , is there other files to edit? must be
[20:49] <FredFlinstone> In this WHOLE channel right now no one knows  proper fstab ? no one can correct the page that i used?
[20:49] <udienz> FredFlinstone: yup, you can ask at here
[20:50] <holstein> FredFlinstone: should just be fstab
[20:51] <holstein> i usually test mount several times before adding things to fstab
[20:51] <udienz> FredFlinstone: win box is Windows OS? sorry in my mind winbox is a router name
[20:52] <holstein> im not totally clear on 'the page' in question
[20:52] <holstein> if its an ubuntu wiki, you can update it
[20:53] <holstein> lunch...
[21:03] <kristian-aalborg> hi ppl
[21:03] <ZeRoDeAtH50435_> hey
[21:03] <kristian-aalborg> holstein, bioterror, phillw---- good evening
[21:04] <kristian-aalborg> hi ZeRoDeAtH50435_
[21:04] <kristian-aalborg> I have a Grub2 problem, like I mentioned - I get the "no such device" stuff
[21:05] <kristian-aalborg> this is a bit tricky, perhaps - the ubuntu that I'd like grub to see is on a CF card via PCMCIA
[21:06] <ZeRoDeAtH50435_> anyone know how to install 32 bit software on 64 bit system?
[21:06] <kristian-aalborg> this card, I believe, can not be set to hd1 in bios boot order
[21:06] <kristian-aalborg> ZeRoDeAtH50435_: which software?
[21:07] <ZeRoDeAtH50435_> drivers for a brother MFC-255Cw printer/scanner
[21:14] <ZeRoDeAtH50435_> when I got to install the lpr I get this:http://pastebin.com/fCaaANeA
[21:15] <holstein> ZeRoDeAtH50435_: i found a chroot environment guide
[21:15]  * holstein looking
[21:15] <ZeRoDeAtH50435_> ok
[21:16] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[21:16] <bioterror> I think it wont work
[21:16] <holstein> i didnt do it though
[21:16] <bioterror> installing some 32bit drivers to 64bit system
[21:17] <ZeRoDeAtH50435_> I have got it to work on other version of ubuntu before
[21:17] <holstein> another 64bit install?
[21:18] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: the way i deal with CF card installs on my EEE
[21:18] <ZeRoDeAtH50435_> yeah
[21:18] <holstein> i have grub on the cards
[21:18] <holstein> per install
[21:18] <holstein> the internal HD has lucid
[21:18] <holstein> and grub all to itself
[21:19] <holstein> each install i do on a card, i put grub there seperately
[21:19] <holstein> and leave grub alone on my internal HD
[21:19] <holstein> the grub that gets installed to the card lists the lucid install on the HD
[21:19] <holstein> but i never boot it that way
[21:20] <holstein> and i just select what i want device i want to but with a button
[21:20] <holstein> its the escape key on the EEE
[21:20] <holstein> little bios popup about what device to boot
[21:22] <nit-wit> holstein, mmm per-session boot, so many people don't know of the magic key prompt, and wave their hands in the air when the computer wont boot per the bios boot list.
[21:23] <kristian-aalborg> holstein: not possible on this system :(
[21:23] <holstein> you could go into the bios i suppose
[21:23] <holstein> its going to be challenging
[21:23] <holstein> grub is going to *need* that card present
[21:23] <holstein> or it will get upset
[21:23] <holstein> AFAIK
[21:24] <kristian-aalborg> holstein: this machine is from 1997 - fairly simple grub
[21:25] <kristian-aalborg> however, when I boot to the other ubuntu that I have, the card is not found by df
[21:26] <holstein> i think you should give some thought to how your going to work around that
[21:26] <holstein> IF grub is on the internal drive
[21:26] <holstein> i think your 'married' to whatever card you have in there
[21:26] <holstein> when you run update-grub or whatever
[21:26] <holstein> maybe some 3rd patry bootloader is the answer
[21:26] <holstein> ive used GAG, but not for anything like that
[21:27] <kristian-aalborg> hmm
[21:28] <bodhizazen> 'lo all
[21:35] <kristian-aalborg> holstein: something like supergrubdisk (you know what I mean) seems to be a solution
[21:35]  * holstein has not a clue about super grub disk ;)
[21:41] <kristian-aalborg> I just found a "rescue mode" on ubuntu 10.10 net
[21:59] <kristian-aalborg> now I'm prompted to choose which file system to use as root
[21:59] <holstein> in a grub config?
[21:59] <holstein> OH, rescue mode
[21:59] <holstein> i havent used much of the rescue mode features
[21:59] <holstein> what is the context?
[21:59] <kristian-aalborg> the context is that I'm fsck'd
[21:59] <holstein> lol
[22:11] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> how do you completely remove a file
[22:23] <iceflatline> rm -f <file>
[23:32] <FredFlinstone> In this WHOLE channel right now no one knows  proper fstab ? no one can correct the page that i used?
[23:33] <FredFlinstone> got banned cause  i cant wait days for a answer in ubuntu
[23:33] <sebikul> FredFlinstone, what do you need?
[23:33] <FredFlinstone> so help me or ban me now
[23:33] <FredFlinstone> fedora disc looks shiny :)
[23:33] <FredFlinstone> anyone - in sharing my win box to ubuntu, where does stuff go to mount and share an ntfs win box, i know fstab needs entries (tried a couple variations from webpages without luck) , is there other files to edit? must be
[23:33] <FredFlinstone> that wqas yesterday
[23:33] <FredFlinstone> earlier
[23:34] <FredFlinstone> In this WHOLE channel right now no one knows  proper fstab ? no one can correct the page that i used?
[23:34] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: stop moaning
[23:34] <sebikul> FredFlinstone, please write exactly what you need, do not expect us to guess
[23:34] <FredFlinstone> same deal , since yesterday no one  can make 10.10 work right fo rme , i think its fracked
[23:34] <ikonia> or you'll be removed from here
[23:34] <FredFlinstone> sharing from xp to ubuntu
[23:34] <aveilleux> FredFlinstone: Yelling at us for help won't help you get results. Not everyone here is actually actively watching the channel. Additionally, the details you're giving us are pretty sparse.
[23:35] <FredFlinstone> impossibel since 10.10 at this location
[23:35] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: I've told you, stop rambling, and give people information
[23:35] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: you've been removed from one channel for this, pull it together
[23:35] <FredFlinstone> ok i give you what i gave ubuntu guys
[23:35] <FredFlinstone> mount.cifs //asus1/MEDIA /media/MEDIA -o credentials=/.smbcredentials
[23:35] <FredFlinstone> and
[23:35] <ikonia> no
[23:35] <ikonia> they didn't ask for that
[23:35] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: stop
[23:35] <FredFlinstone> in fstab = //asus1/MEDIA /media/MEDIA cifs credentials=/home/fred/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0
[23:36] <ikonia> right - I can't be bothered with you any more, no-one asked for that
[23:36] <FredFlinstone> ikonia, what arfe you smoking?
[23:36] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: nothing,
[23:36] <FredFlinstone> i am trying hard and youare just pushiong my buttionsd fort laughs
[23:36] <sebikul> FredFlinstone, if you are expecting our help, you will not get anywhere talking like that
[23:37] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: no, you are not listening to what people are asking you and just ramming random information at people and then threatening to use another distro
[23:37] <FredFlinstone> ever hear of the spirit of xmas, or karma?
[23:37] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: enough
[23:37] <FredFlinstone> god what make me so bad
[23:37] <ikonia> FredFlinstone: another smart comment and I'll remove you from here too
[23:37] <pleia2> FredFlinstone: you're being horribly rude, we're all volunteers here, if you're not happy with community support you may cosider one of the paid options from canonical
[23:38] <pleia2> otherwise, please explain exactly what you're trying to do (share windows? a disk on the same machine? over samba? is clicking to find it on the network not working?)
[23:39] <sogepp> guys, each time i boot xubuntu, the previus app always comes and poping one after another, how to stop this ???
[23:39] <FredFlinstone> i have no network
[23:39] <FredFlinstone> its not there, it cant find it
[23:39] <FredFlinstone> as im times out
[23:39] <FredFlinstone> as iN times out
[23:39] <pleia2> FredFlinstone: so first you need to get the network share from windows working?
[23:40] <collinp> Your rudeness is beyond what is tolerable in this channel.
[23:52] <sogepp> guys, after i updtein my repos, what happen with downloded repos file ???
[23:52] <sogepp> update
[23:58] <UndiFineD> sogepp, when you update your repositories file, it replaces the one currently installed
[23:59] <sogepp> so, it won't stay on my hdd???


[22:25] <nhandler> mdke: I noticed that merge issue shortly after requesting it (however, I was unable to add a comment at the time). However, the patch has been attached to the bug for a few days. In order to ensure it gets pushed to the karmic branch, I'll fix up my person branch so it is mergable
[22:27] <mdke> nhandler: oh, sorry. Don't worry about the branch then, no point with the extra work
[22:27] <mdke> nhandler: I'll grab the patch now
[22:27] <nhandler> Thanks a lot mdke :)
[22:29] <mdke> nhandler: ok, it looks good to me. I'll let upstream check the terminology though, no doubt it will enter Ubuntu when we merge from upstream during the karmic cycle
[22:29] <mdke> nhandler: I'll comment on the upstream bug
[22:31] <nhandler> mdke: Just out of curiosity, how do we handle the merge with upstream? Do we just merge the branches?
[22:31] <mdke> nhandler: yes, there tend to be quite a few conflicts to sort out (po files are terrible with vcs) but it's a decent solution
[23:02] <Rocket2DMn> mdke, i saw your response to matt lye's email this morning, I don't know exactly why he contacted anybody directly rather than mailing lists, but there seems to be some confusion over what we are doing
[23:03] <Rocket2DMn> our Education focus group is coordinating with #ubuntu-classroom sessions
[23:03] <Rocket2DMn> I believe you know cprofitt, he is leading that up, I think he has been coordinating with Elizabeth Krumbach (pleia2 on irc)
[23:04] <Rocket2DMn> I'm not sure why Matt (Vantrax on IRC) got ahold of you to ask those questions
[23:04] <mdke> Rocket2DMn: he mailed the entire ~ubuntumembers group on Launchpad. But I'm happy if you clarify his email on the list, I'm just going off to bed now
[23:05] <Rocket2DMn> Did he really?  I wasnt contacted directly...
[23:05] <Rocket2DMn> Ok, go ahead and go to bed, I'll talk with you more later,  gnight
[23:07] <mdke> This message was sent from Launchpad by the user
[23:07] <mdke> Matthew Lye (https://launchpad.net/~matthew.lye)
[23:07] <mdke> using the "Contact this team" link on the Ubuntu Members
[23:07] <mdke> team page to each member directly.
[23:07] <Rocket2DMn> oh youre right, i do see it now
[23:07] <Rocket2DMn> how embarrassing
[23:08] <mdke> :D
[23:08] <mdke> ok, good night
[23:08] <Rocket2DMn> ok thanks, i'll email the list after i am able to contact him
[23:08] <Rocket2DMn> peace


[01:56] <Guest31141> help
[20:03] <Tally> JOIN
[20:06] <TallyMeBanana> At what time will the release ISO be available?
[21:56] <laidbackwebsage> So, this is probably a dumb question, but is there any way to upgrade to 17.10 prior to midnight, or whatever the official release time is? I'm talking full new version, not beta...
[21:56] <laidbackwebsage> Yes, I'm anxious. :-)
[22:25] <vrmuppalla> I 've been running dev version. I think last night it updated to release, acc to the /etc/osrelease file.


[22:44] <Unit193> As I'm going to apply for Ubuntu Membership, I'm asking for any tips/testimonials/ideas that you can give: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unit193 (Including "Your wiki is horrible! Try this to fix it")
[23:08] <knome> heh
[23:08] <knome> when is your meeting?
[23:09] <Unit193> Well, working on getting everything set, and then have to decide on IRC or RMB
[23:10] <Unit193> Gotta figure out what one I want to hear "Come back later" from
[23:10] <knome> ha