[00:02] <lex79> voilà, bug 653838
[00:02] <lex79> with logs attached and probably workaround
[00:09] <valorie> btw, that volume problem was transient
[00:09] <valorie> on restart Amarok volume works perfectly
[00:11] <valorie> shadeslayer, sorry to have ignored your question earlier
[00:11] <valorie> I was paying attention to the volume
[00:12] <valorie> not finding the font squashed, no
[00:12] <valorie> it is small, but I like that
[00:16] <lex79> ScottK: amarok in queue
[00:22] <valorie> thanks, lex79
[00:23] <lex79> debfx did, I only sponsored his patch ;)
[00:24] <Riddell> lex79: let me look
[00:26]  * Riddell accepts amarok
[00:26] <lex79> great
[00:29] <lex79> Riddell: just curiosity, when you said a GUI for 5.1 setup in pulseaudio, this mean there is a GUI somewhere?
[00:33] <Riddell> this patch http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/kdebase4-runtime/current/SOURCES/kdebase-runtime-4.5-speakersetup.patch?view=log&revision=571299
[00:33] <Riddell> as recommended by upstream
[00:34] <lex79> thanks
[00:34] <Riddell> lex79: can you compile and test that and recommend if we should include it?
[00:35] <lex79> Riddell: ok, just that patch or we want also other patches?
[00:36] <lex79> uhm the patch introduces strings
[00:36] <Riddell> lex79: just that one
[00:36] <Riddell> yes that's the downside
[00:36] <Riddell> do we want a useful feature if it's untranslated
[00:36] <lex79> ok
[00:37] <Riddell> we could get the translations from trunk, or we could let launchpad translate it, or we could not include the feature
[00:38] <lex79> if it works we can get the translations from trunk I think
[00:40] <valorie> pavucontrol is the GUI for PA
[00:44] <lex79> but pavucontrol is not part of KDE
[00:45] <lex79> we want manage PA with kmix
[00:54] <ScottK> lex79: Looks like Riddell got it already (amarok)
[01:00] <valorie> well, kmix says that everything is turned on
[01:01] <valorie> but youtube is silent
[01:01] <valorie> so something is askew
[01:01] <valorie> anyway, dinner time
[01:43] <DarkwingDuck> Riddell: ping
[01:44] <Riddell> hi DarkwingDuck
[01:45] <DarkwingDuck> hey, my sponsorship got approved
[01:46] <Riddell> groovy
[01:50] <DarkwingDuck> yup. so ill see you at end of month? :P
[01:50] <Riddell> yes indeed
[01:51] <Riddell> register at https://edge.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-n/+attend
[01:51] <Riddell> and book your travel
[01:52] <DarkwingDuck> they pay or re-emburse?
[01:52] <Riddell> if it's done through the travel agent it gets charged to them
[01:53] <DarkwingDuck> okay
[01:53] <Riddell> if you book it yourself you have to fill in a form later and get the money back
[01:53] <DarkwingDuck> got ya because I'm sponsored. including hotel. :D
[01:54] <DarkwingDuck> I'm still unemployed and low on $$ :/
[01:54] <Riddell> if it's easiest to drive I expect you can claim the milage but I'd ask first to be sure
[01:54] <DarkwingDuck> no... I'm in california
[01:54] <Riddell> long drive that
[01:54] <DarkwingDuck> aye.
[01:54]  * Riddell snoozes
[01:55] <DarkwingDuck> lol
[01:59] <DarkwingDuck> who else from kubuntu going?
[01:59] <DarkwingDuck> I see ScottK is
[02:00] <dantti> Riddell: is still time for a aptcc patch? :D
[03:09] <lex79> JontheEchidna: around?
[03:09] <JontheEchidna> lex79: yep, kded testing, hence my loss of connection
[03:10] <lex79> JontheEchidna: can you push kubuntu_21_fix_phantom_cursor.diff to bzr
[03:10] <lex79> in qt4
[03:10] <CIA-116> [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* debian/patches/kubuntu_21_fix_phantom_cursor.diff bzr-add
[03:11] <lex79> thanks
[03:11] <JontheEchidna> np
[03:13] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1182023 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/event.cpp When using tray icons, let their existance control when the event is "active". Fixes double tray icons appearing.
[03:14] <CIA-116> [kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/daemon/event.cpp Port "double tray icon if event is triggered with an existing tray icon" fix from muon-notifier.
[03:20] <CIA-116> [kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/daemon/event.cpp Incorrect comment
[03:21] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1182026 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/event.cpp Incorrect comment
[03:41] <lex79> ScottK: don't accept qt4 please, I missing the epoch :(
[03:44] <lex79> uhm I'm wondering who is approving my uploads
[03:49] <lex79> I hope they will chose the right version :)
[03:50]  * lex79 is talking to himself and giggles
[04:41]  * dantti asks himself if any kword author ever used kword, all features work fine, but when writing there are a bunch on bugs...
[07:22] <Riddell> dantti: aptcc might be possible
[09:04] <shadeslayer> yofel: pingly
[09:04] <shadeslayer> did you fix all 3 bugs?
[09:04] <shadeslayer> ( the upgrade ones )
[11:45] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can i cherry pick a patch from rekonq upstream?
[11:49] <Riddell> shadeslayer: if it's important and readable by an archive admin
[11:49] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://gitorious.org/rekonq/mainline/commit/f0d84a51301cff4d0fe29adb8dff447795df76b4
[11:49] <shadeslayer> fixes bug 647332
[11:50] <Riddell> sounds important
[11:50] <Riddell> looks readable, go for it
[11:50] <shadeslayer> alrighty
[12:02] <shadeslayer> Riddell: also, we need oauth in lucid to fix choqok .... should i file a SRU? its a completely new package
[12:05] <shadeslayer> also lp seems to be failing to sync comments :(
[12:05] <Riddell> ug
[12:05] <Riddell> is it related to libqoauth1 ?
[12:05] <shadeslayer> yeah
[12:05] <Riddell> well we already have that
[12:06] <Riddell> and it's in main
[12:06] <shadeslayer> erm https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qoauth
[12:06] <shadeslayer> only maverick package
[12:06] <Riddell> oh I see, didn't read "lucid"
[12:07] <Riddell> not sure if we can do a SRU for a new package but may as well try
[12:07] <Riddell> does the version of choqok in lucid need updated or is it just a patch or just a config change?
[12:07] <shadeslayer> yeah, this is in regards to bug 628200
[12:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: theres no lucid package for qoauth
[12:08] <shadeslayer> which is needed for choqok
[12:08] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what was the solution to the embedded id issue?
[12:08] <shadeslayer> ( twitter wont work until we provide the latest choqok )
[12:08] <shadeslayer> havent heard from upstream till now
[12:08] <Riddell> so do we have it working?
[12:09] <shadeslayer> well... if we ignore the consumer id key issue and put latest choqok in lucid it will work
[12:10] <Riddell> by ignore you mean use the choqok id and hope twitter don't revoke it?
[12:10] <shadeslayer> yes
[12:11] <shadeslayer> im writing a mail to mtux, so we can possibly wait for his reply
[12:11] <Riddell> shadeslayer: did you look into getting a Kubuntu consumer id?  isn't that what ubuntu did for gwibber?
[12:12] <shadeslayer> yeah, but do i just switch the key id's with a patch?
[12:12] <shadeslayer> i can make a consumer ID right now for kubuntu
[12:13] <shadeslayer> we could also use the ubuntu one...
[12:15] <Riddell> yes, a patch would be fine
[12:15] <shadeslayer> and do i use the ubuntu one or create one for kubuntu?
[12:15] <Riddell> I'd keep it separate from the ubuntu one, if we do something wrong and twitter pull it we don't want to break ubuntu too (or vice versa)
[12:15] <Riddell> create one for kubuntu
[12:15] <shadeslayer> ok
[12:17] <shadeslayer> Riddell: Application Name : Kubuntu Twitter client :: ?
[12:19] <Riddell> I guess so
[12:20] <shadeslayer> heh.. application name cannot include twitter :P
[12:21] <shadeslayer> and i need the kubuntu logo
[12:21] <shadeslayer> http://www.kubuntu.org/themes/kubuntu10.04/logo.png should do
[12:22] <Riddell> yes
[12:22] <shadeslayer> Kubuntu Micro blogging Client <- application name
[12:22] <Riddell> that'll do
[12:23] <shadeslayer> done
[12:23] <shadeslayer> hmm.. dont think the logo is coming properly..
[12:24] <shadeslayer> Riddell: rekonq here : https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental
[12:35] <Riddell> shadeslayer: groovy, uploaded
[12:35] <shadeslayer> thanks LD
[12:35] <shadeslayer> :D
[13:17] <shadeslayer> btw when using quilt, do i have to have a custom rule for it in debian/rules?
[13:19] <Riddell> not if it's source format 3.0
[13:19] <Riddell> but if it's not (no debian/source/format file) then yes
[13:20] <Riddell> although the kde.mk and debian-qt-kde.mk include files should include quilt for you if you add it as a build dep
[13:21] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/505094/ :: not source format 3.0
[13:22] <shadeslayer> that should do it right?
[13:25] <shadeslayer> good thing we dont ship kde pim beta 3... completely worthless
[13:34] <shadeslayer> Riddell: um .. is it possible rekonq package is stuck in queue ?
[13:34] <shadeslayer> since we are in freeze and such
[14:47] <dantti> Riddell: nice, It's a regression compared to the py-apt-backend, I'm getting and parsing the changelog, it's not finished yet since some packages are failing to fetch the file
[14:48] <dantti> I'm going to my parents house (2h driving) since it's elections day in Brazil and I still vote there, probably at night I'll finish this :)
[15:32] <shadeslayer> Riddell: do we want this? http://imgur.com/9tkdN
[15:33] <shadeslayer> ScottK: ^
[15:36] <shadeslayer> seems to be working alright : http://twitter.com/rohangarg
[15:36] <shadeslayer> ( youll have to follow me in order to see the tweet :P )
[16:23] <yofel> shadeslayer: no, lex did that, I don't have much time to do any kubuntu work currently :(
[16:31] <shadeslayer> oh ok
[16:36] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ScottK upstream advises to use our own customer id, packages with custom id in : https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental
[16:37] <shadeslayer> um
[16:37] <shadeslayer> s/customer id/consumer key
[16:57] <shadeslayer> wait something weird happend
[16:59] <shadeslayer> :S
[17:00] <shadeslayer> yeah... wont upload... anyways.. heres the dsc https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/choqok_0.9.85-0ubuntu2.dsc
[17:24] <shadeslayer> where is apachelogger? 0_o
[17:24] <shadeslayer> where is everyone? :D
[18:48] <Riddell> shadeslayer: here and there
[18:48]  * shadeslayer points to screenshot
[18:48] <shadeslayer> http://imgur.com/9tkdN
[18:50] <Riddell> yay
[18:51] <shadeslayer> if you want that, package can be uploaded from https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/choqok_0.9.85-0ubuntu2.dsc
[18:52] <shadeslayer> and upstream advises to use our own consumer key as well
[18:53] <Riddell> hmm, launchpad broke, no https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/choqok_0.9.85.orig.tar.gz
[18:53] <shadeslayer> :S
[18:53] <shadeslayer> hold on ..
[18:56] <Riddell> I got it from the normal archive
[18:56] <shadeslayer> ohk ..
[18:59] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/choqok/debian.tar.gz
[19:00] <shadeslayer> thats the debian folder
[19:00] <shadeslayer> wait a sc
[19:01] <shadeslayer> damn.. forgot to mention that quilt was added as a dep and rule file was modified
[19:02] <shadeslayer> Riddell: could you download that debian tar again ? :D
[19:03] <shadeslayer> <3 http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o111/kdb424/Blue.png
[19:03] <shadeslayer> i wish that was available in a larger format :(
[19:06] <Riddell> gosh I have a load of half conversations on identica that I only ever see on the rare occations I run choqok
[19:07] <shadeslayer> hahahaha
[19:07] <DarkwingDuck> i have not touched identica or twitter in so long
[19:07] <shadeslayer> yeah i had to touch them today ... to test it :P
[19:08] <shadeslayer> also.. any ideas where i can find a bigger kubuntu logo?
[19:08] <shadeslayer> just the icon part
[19:08] <Riddell> KubuntuArtwork wiki page has the SVG
[19:08] <shadeslayer> great
[19:09] <shadeslayer> ah.. thats the whole log
[19:09] <shadeslayer> *logo
[19:09] <shadeslayer> i need the icon
[19:09] <Riddell> good time to learn how to use inkscape then
[19:09] <Riddell> choqok uploaded thanks shadeslayer
[19:09] <Riddell> do you have the lucid SRU for upload?
[19:10] <shadeslayer> for qoauth yes
[19:10] <shadeslayer> for new choqok package with that patch no :(
[19:11] <Riddell> is there a problem or just haven't had time yet?
[19:12] <shadeslayer> the latter :)
[19:12] <shadeslayer> i can do it right now :D
[19:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: should i file SRU bugs?
[19:16] <Riddell> yes
[19:16] <shadeslayer> ok ill do that
[19:16] <shadeslayer> now where do i get lucid testers :)
[19:17] <Riddell> I can do a chroot
[19:18] <shadeslayer> oh can i use that? i have the pbuilder chroot myself
[19:18] <shadeslayer> i thought it required that you have a proper install and stuff
[19:20] <jussi> right, someone want to tell me how to tar a directory from the cli?'
[19:20] <shadeslayer> :)
[19:21] <shadeslayer> jussi: tar cvzf foo.tgz foodir
[19:21] <jussi> :)
[19:32] <shadeslayer> Riddell: erm.. is SRU the correct way of doing this? shouldnt this be a backport?
[19:32] <shadeslayer> or is this a crticial bug :D
[19:38]  * Riddell adds a technologies used section to http://www.kubuntu.org/
[19:38] <Riddell> shadeslayer: the application can't be used, seems critical to me
[19:38] <Riddell> shadeslayer: it may not get through, but I think it's worth a shot
[19:38] <shadeslayer> yeah thats what im thinking as well...
[19:39] <shadeslayer> Riddell: and oooh that looks sexy
[19:39] <shadeslayer> ( technologies used )
[19:40] <shadeslayer> we have this big blob of whitespace on the left of the site, just left of the slideshow
[19:40] <shadeslayer> more like bluespace
[19:41] <shadeslayer> Riddell: and is ooo going down? is kubuntu going to ship koffice for natty? :D
[19:42] <Riddell> shadeslayer: left of the slideshow is the countdown surely
[19:42] <shadeslayer> s/left/right
[19:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer: we'll replace that banner with some maverick promo in a week
[19:43] <shadeslayer> whee \o/
[19:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer: feel free to propose koffice for natty, we can have that debate again if you think it's worth it
[19:43] <Riddell> but e.g. 04:41  * dantti asks himself if any kword author ever used kword, all features work fine, but when writing there are a bunch on bugs...
[19:44] <shadeslayer> ok, apachelogger left me a message that ooo is going down
[19:44] <Riddell> well it'll be replaced with libreoffice I expect in natty
[19:44] <shadeslayer> so just wanted to ask.. ive never used ooo or kword tbh
[19:44] <shadeslayer> never used that either :D
[19:44] <Riddell> emacs all the way!
[19:44]  * shadeslayer uses nano :P
[19:45] <shadeslayer> hmm... im off for a bit of coffee :)
[19:46] <shadeslayer> heh... 163 MB sources ...
[19:48] <shadeslayer> i just hope that libreoffice doesnt use java crap
[19:49] <shadeslayer> Riddell: oh and i found a bigger logo from lp.net/~kubuntu-members :D
[19:49] <shadeslayer> s/logo/icon
[19:49] <ScottK> shadeslayer: libreoffice is essentially what we have now rebranded (we already uses the go-ooo patches.
[19:49] <ScottK> )
[19:50] <Riddell> shadeslayer: "bigger" doesn't make much sense for SVGs
[19:53] <shadeslayer> its a png :D
[19:54] <shadeslayer> ScottK: bah... :(
[20:02] <shadeslayer> Riddell: bug 654236
[20:03] <shadeslayer> i will post install logs in a few moments
[20:04] <Riddell> shadeslayer: needs an oauth bug too
[20:04] <Riddell> needs a debdiff on the bug
[20:04] <Riddell> needs a test case
[20:05] <shadeslayer> report a new one for qoauth? :S
[20:05] <Riddell> yes, they like them separate for some reason
[20:05] <shadeslayer> Riddell: test case is given... maybe i should add TEST CASE before it
[20:06] <Riddell> yes, it needs that, in caps preferably
[20:06] <shadeslayer> debdiff will be huge
[20:06] <Riddell> yeah, still needed, along with the justification
[20:11] <shadeslayer> debdiff added
[20:20] <shadeslayer> Riddell: bug 654241 ( more info to be added soonish )
[20:32] <shadeslayer> hmm... CWG ceremony had loads of orange... no blue :(
[20:32] <shadeslayer> orange, purpule, other ubuntu colors... no blue :'(
[20:35] <Riddell> I'll make sure we fix that when we host them in 2014
[20:35] <Riddell> shouldn't cost much to get a Kubuntu sponsorship of it
[20:36] <shadeslayer> :D
[20:37] <shadeslayer> Riddell: oh btw i think england had the largest contingent after ours
[20:38] <shadeslayer> idk how many atheletes from UK came, but from india we had 620 participants :P
[20:38] <shadeslayer> *athletes
[20:39] <Riddell> bah, England won't stand a chance against Scotland :)
[20:39] <Riddell> no atheletes from UK came, there's no such team
[20:40] <shadeslayer> i meant England :)
[20:40] <shadeslayer> also... there was alot of controversy about why the queen couldnt make it ^_^
[20:41] <shadeslayer> http://imgur.com/g2pOp :: i seriously need to get rid of stuff in /Work
[20:42] <Riddell> Betty is still in Scotland, she's tired after meeting that catholic chap
[20:49] <shadeslayer> install logs added
[20:49] <shadeslayer> anything else required?
[20:50] <shadeslayer> debdiff for choqok is done as well ...
[20:50] <shadeslayer> ( qoauth doesnt have a debdiff since there isnt a lucid package )
[20:50] <shadeslayer> can i set to triaged? :D
[21:12] <shadeslayer> ScottK: could you look at SRU bug 654241 and bug 654236 ?
[21:12] <shadeslayer> if its possible to SRU them.. else they have to go into backports :(
[21:22] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I'm not in ubuntu-sru.
[21:22] <shadeslayer> uh..ok...
[21:22] <shadeslayer> also... qoauth will be a new package in lucid, should i subscribe the sru team to both the packages?
[21:23] <ScottK> Yes.
[21:23] <shadeslayer> done
[21:28]  * lex79 upload -workspace
[21:31] <lex79> ScottK: around? don't accept -workspace, sorry :)
[21:31] <ScottK> lex79: Want me to reject it?
[21:31] <lex79> ScottK: I'm reuploading it, maybe yes, reject
[21:32] <ScottK> lex79: Done.
[21:32] <lex79> Thanks
[21:47] <shadeslayer_> heh.. im royally screwed :)
[21:48] <Guest13533> something happened at the last update and now i cant login
[21:49] <evilshadeslayer> well.. i could login into kde svn first, but now i cant even do that :(
[21:52] <ScottK> evilshadeslayer: Last update to what?
[21:52] <evilshadeslayer> ScottK: to my system
[21:52] <evilshadeslayer> with apt-get update
[21:52] <ScottK> So look in /var/log/dpkg.log and see what got updated.
[21:52] <evilshadeslayer> hold on, im chrooting
[21:52] <ScottK> lex79: Is this upload good?
[21:53] <lex79> which? my last -workspace? it fixes a regression in oxygen
[21:53] <lex79> bug 602389
[21:54] <ScottK> Yes.  That one.
[21:54] <lex79> it's a tiny change
[21:54] <ScottK> Is it upstream already?
[21:54] <lex79> I tested and it works
[21:54] <lex79> no :(
[21:54] <ScottK> Since you'd asked me to reject the last one, I was just double checking.
[21:54] <ScottK> Riddell: Can you push lex79's change to kdesvn trunk and the 4.5 branch?
[21:55] <evilshadeslayer> ScottK: last 100 lines of abovementioned file : http://pastebin.com/rpgKbQma
[21:55] <Riddell> ScottK, lex79: what's he added?
[21:55] <ScottK> Riddell: Look at the -workspace diff in the queue.
[21:55]  * ScottK didn't accept it yet.
[21:56] <Riddell> also we haven't made a decision on the speaker patch lex79 and me were looking at
[21:56] <ScottK> Was the workspace or runtime?
[21:56] <lex79> runtime
[21:56] <lex79> but it doesn't work
[21:56] <ScottK> That would be a good reason not to include it.
[21:56] <lex79> :D
[21:57] <ScottK> Riddell: What say you about the Oxygen fix?
[21:57] <Riddell> lex79: the speaker tab didn't work?
[21:57] <lex79> well, do first workspace please :P
[21:57] <Riddell> ScottK: what oxygen fix?
[21:57] <lex79> then we can chat about speakers
[21:57] <lex79> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/revision/430
[21:58] <ScottK> Riddell: The -workspace upload in unapproved.
[21:58] <ScottK> Or that.
[21:58] <Riddell> looking
[21:58] <ScottK> Thanks.
[22:00] <Riddell> well I do have that problem, don't know if the patch will work but we could just trust lex and accept it
[22:00] <Riddell> lex79: you don't happen to have PPA or local packages of this do you?
[22:00] <evilshadeslayer> ScottK: looks like i only got half of the upgrades... *shrug
[22:01] <lex79> Riddell: nope, I just tested in my system and it works
[22:01] <Riddell> ok I'll accept and test when it's compiled then put in upstream
[22:01] <lex79> ok
[22:01] <evilshadeslayer> i could have tested that patch... if my install was working ;)
[22:02] <lex79> Riddell: so, about phonon, speakers setup is showed in system settings http://imagebin.ca/view/1yBCYQmz.html
[22:03] <lex79> Riddell: but  pushing the buttons (Front left, front right, front center....) don't emit sound
[22:03] <Riddell> lex79: yes, that looks good no?
[22:03] <lex79> nope ^ :)
[22:03] <Riddell> hmm
[22:03] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: it *looks* good :P
[22:03] <lex79> 2) sometimes kded crash
[22:03] <lex79> http://pastebin.ca/1953611
[22:03] <evilshadeslayer> who said anything about working :D
[22:03] <lex79> with that patch
[22:04] <lex79> from here: http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages?view=revision&revision=571299
[22:04] <Riddell> are you sure the volume isn't 0 in kmix?
[22:04] <lex79> I'm sure
[22:04] <lex79> I tested several times
[22:04] <Riddell> ok, you convinced me, let's not add UI changes a week before release
[22:04] <lex79> I reboot, I created a new users...but nothing
[22:05] <Riddell> thanks for testing
[22:05] <lex79> maybe we shoukd talk again with Colin, if it works in Mandriva....
[22:05] <lex79> or it's a pulse issue or a libcanberra issue I think
[22:05] <ScottK> Mandriva may have PA changes we don't have.
[22:05] <lex79> right
[22:07] <Riddell> speaking of which.. crimsun what do you think of this? http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/pulse.debdiff
[22:18] <lex79> what about casper? there's a fix in bzr for bug 650621
[22:20] <JontheEchidna> lex79: that's uploaded, but I didn't close the bug in the changelog
[22:20] <lex79> ah, ok ;)
[23:08] <lex79> JontheEchidna: when you send a bug to bugs.kde.org you usually write also "the bug was reported in Launchpad (URL)" ?
[23:12] <shadeslayer_> hmm... seems ill have to re-install
[23:12] <JontheEchidna> lex79: yeah
[23:12] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Probably not.
[23:12] <ScottK> Why do you think you need to reinstall?
[23:12] <shadeslayer_> ScottK: well.. i cant login :P
[23:12] <lex79> shadeslayer_: this is a test to become kubuntu developer
[23:12] <ari-tczew> shadeslayer_: your SRU requests seems to be a backports
[23:13] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: ^^
[23:13] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Reboot into single user and fix it.
[23:13] <ScottK> ari-tczew: It's a bit of a special case.
[23:13] <lex79> shadeslayer_: if you reinstall you can't become a developer :P
[23:13] <shadeslayer_> ScottK: cant... i sort of did some screwy stuff with intrid :P
[23:13] <shadeslayer_> lex79: lol..
[23:13] <lex79> fix the initrid then
[23:13] <ScottK> Yep
[23:14]  * shadeslayer_ will have to undo scewy stuff with initrid
[23:14] <ari-tczew> ScottK: ok, then I'm not going to investigate.
[23:14] <lex79> JontheEchidna: thanks
[23:14] <shadeslayer_> lex79: re-installing is so much easier :D
[23:15] <ScottK> But what do you learn from that?
[23:15] <lex79> shadeslayer_: yes, it easy *not* be a developer
[23:15]  * lex79 giggles
[23:15] <shadeslayer_> thats another matter then  :P
[23:15] <shadeslayer_> weird thing is... it shows splash -> reboots X
[23:16] <shadeslayer_> and my X logs dont show anything fishy
[23:19] <shadeslayer_> http://pastebin.com/C9WCmgz9
[23:20] <shadeslayer_> ah kdm log might be more helpful
[23:21] <shadeslayer_> http://pastebin.com/GMAkh9jF
[23:22] <shadeslayer_> doesnt kde write logs and stuff?
[23:25] <shadeslayer_> aha! i think its timing out
[23:25] <shadeslayer_> http://pastebin.com/fJ4GjJjU
[23:25] <shadeslayer_> lex79: ^
[23:25] <shadeslayer_> # kde(1599)/ksmserver KSMServer::startupSuspendTimeout: Startup suspend timeout: 2
[23:26] <shadeslayer_> kdeinit4 terminated :O
[23:26] <shadeslayer_> that doesnt sound good
[23:26] <lex79> -workspace is fully updated?
[23:27] <shadeslayer_> lex79: 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu6
[23:27] <shadeslayer_> i experience bugs AFTER theyre fixed in packages :P
[23:28] <shadeslayer_> oh.. new workspace... 0ubuntu7
[23:28] <lex79> :)
[23:28] <lex79> I don't think it fixes your error anyway
[23:28] <shadeslayer_> yeah
[23:29] <shadeslayer_> i was about to say that
[23:29] <lex79> which log is that ^ ?
[23:30] <shadeslayer_> xsessions-errors
[23:31] <lex79> uhm I don't have that ^ error
[23:31] <shadeslayer_> of course you dont... because you have a working system :P
[23:32] <shadeslayer_> hold on... pastebining daemon.log
[23:32] <lex79> :D
[23:32] <shadeslayer_> http://pastebin.com/6fvtwjK6 :: last 200 lines
[23:33] <shadeslayer_> errr ... # Oct  4 03:26:41 saphira kdm_greet[1078]: Data directory "/var/lib/kdm" not accessible: Permission denied .. is that right?
[23:34] <shadeslayer_> ( and yeah its 4AM here :P )
[23:34] <lex79> do you have kdm installed? lol
[23:34] <shadeslayer_> lulz
[23:34] <shadeslayer_> yeah
[23:34] <lex79> try to reinstall it
[23:35] <shadeslayer_> done.. now reboot to see if it works?
[23:36] <lex79> try....
[23:40] <lex79> uhm
[23:43] <shadeslayer> lex79: ok so my kde svn install works
[23:43] <shadeslayer> BUT ... its sloooooowwww
[23:44] <lex79> kdm works?
[23:44] <shadeslayer> yes
[23:44] <shadeslayer> but .. i cant login into stable install
[23:44] <shadeslayer> kde svn install works fine
[23:45] <shadeslayer> ( not fine.. slow as hell :S)
[23:45] <lex79> oh maybe your kdm svn screw up the kdm stable?
[23:45] <shadeslayer> not really possible
[23:45] <shadeslayer> since kde svn is installed in ~/kde
[23:45] <lex79> ok
[23:46] <shadeslayer> and you need root priviliges to install in /bin/kdm ... which i dont use
[23:46] <lex79> do you have /var/lib/kdm?
[23:46] <shadeslayer> yah
[23:46] <shadeslayer> wait
[23:46] <shadeslayer> its empty :O
[23:47] <lex79> here in /var/lib/kdm/ I have kdmsts with:
[23:47] <lex79> [PrevUser]
[23:47] <lex79> :0=lex
[23:49] <shadeslayer> nope.. nothing here
[23:51] <shadeslayer> lex79: http://paste.ubuntu.com/505356/
[23:52] <shadeslayer> i should probably reboot and do that ...
[23:52] <lex79> It's a knew bug
[23:52] <lex79> we have to rewrite postrm file I think
[23:52] <shadeslayer> \o/ ... bug
[23:53]  * shadeslayer installs gdm
[23:53] <shadeslayer> crap .. brings in alot of gnomey libs
[23:54] <shadeslayer> cant help it..
[23:55] <shadeslayer> lex79: want me to file a bug report?
[23:55]  * shadeslayer notes its quite a critical bug
[23:55] <lex79> it's not critical
[23:55] <shadeslayer> whut.. people wont be able to login :P
[23:56] <shadeslayer> or is the postrm bug about when i removed kdm
[23:57] <lex79> bug 634707
[23:57] <shadeslayer> brb ...


[07:55] <Zdra> hello, is it possible to fallback to normal desktop on natty?
[07:59] <Zdra> ah, starting metacity, gnome-panel and kill unity seems to work
[08:00] <Zdra> is there a setting to do that?
[08:02] <fta> Zdra, you have a small menu at the center of the bottom panel in gdm; select Classic
[08:03] <fta> there's also a pref (System / Admin / Login Screen)
[08:03] <Zdra> fta, cool let me test that :)
[08:56] <Zdra> hm, on natty there is a tab missing in the appearance dialog, how can I tell to not use compiz but use metacity instead?
[12:23] <TeTeT> hi, anyone has a pointer for me why my natty desktop does not work after login any longer? I get asked for my keyring passphrase and then it's waiting forever. X is fine so far, I can start a separate X server and it works
[12:31] <geser> TeTeT: Classic Desktop or Unity one?
[12:33] <TeTeT> geser: Unity
[12:41] <xclaesse> is it known that nm-applet is segfaulting at startup in natty?
[13:00] <cyphermox> xclaesse, depends. I don't see it segfault here. are you fully up to date?
[13:00] <cyphermox> xclaesse, don't hesitate to open a bug, if you have the number I'll take a look
[13:02] <xclaesse> cyphermox, I installed yesterday from daily
[13:02] <xclaesse> and I'm up to date now, yes
[13:03] <xclaesse> #0  0x000000000042dd4e in ?? ()
[13:03] <xclaesse> #1  0x000000000041bc83 in status_icon_activate_cb ()
[13:03] <cyphermox> heh.
[13:03] <xclaesse> how, I see that coming, ubuntu badly patched it for indicator that I'm not using
[13:04] <cyphermox> xclaesse, can you report a bug? it should mostly do it by itself when apport gets triggers when nm-applet crashes?
[13:04] <xclaesse> hm, no, even with indicator applet, still crash
[13:04] <xclaesse> cyphermox, apport does not start it seems
[13:05] <cyphermox> xclaesse, check if you have files in /var/crash
[13:05] <xclaesse> that dir does not even exist :/
[13:07] <cyphermox> it systematically crashes every time you start it?
[13:08] <cyphermox> or maybe send me the core file if it crashes when started from the command line and you get one?
[13:10] <xclaesse> cyphermox, ok got one
[13:10] <cyphermox> great
[13:10] <cyphermox> can you send this to me by email? how big is it?
[13:12] <xclaesse> cyphermox, http://people.collabora.co.uk/~xclaesse/core
[13:14] <xclaesse> could someone upload libfolks 0.3.3 to natty? it is in debian exp :)
[13:25] <sense> I was wondering: 'metacity --replace' replaces Compiz (if that is the active wm), and 'compiz --replace' replaces Metacity if that is the active wm). But what about 'gnome-panel --replace', now Compiz-plugin Unity provides a panel? (And vice-versa.) Shouldn't the --replace things do something there, or do they already do something?
[14:38] <cyphermox> xclaesse, still there?
[14:40] <nessita> mvo: ping
[14:41] <mvo> hey nessita
[14:42] <nessita> mvo: hi there! can I ask you an aptdaemon question?
[14:43] <mvo> nessita: sure
[14:44] <nessita> mvo: how can I "programatically" check if a package is installed?
[14:45] <nessita> I've seen from the doc that I can install a package using aptdaemon.client.AptClient().install_packages, but even if the package is installed I get the gksudo gtk screen, and I need to raise that window only if a package is not installed
[14:47] <mvo> nessita: the best way to do this is "cache=apt.Cache(); if pkg in cache and cache[pkg].is_installed: do_something()"
[14:47] <mvo> nessita: the aptdaemon is (unlikey e.g. packagekit) only concerned with stuff that needs superuser
[14:47] <nessita> mvo: awesome, thanks!
[14:47] <mvo> nessita: just querying state (or even simulating install/removal etc) can all done in the cache
[14:48] <nessita> mvo: what do you mean with simulating install/removal?
[14:48] <mvo> nessita: pydoc apt ; pydoc apt.Cache" should have some useful info, if you need anything specific, I will be happy to help
[14:48] <mvo> nessita: just call cache[pkg].mark_install()
[14:48] <mvo> nessita: and then cache.get_changes()
[14:48] <nessita> ah, I understand
[14:49] <mvo> nessita: that will give you a list of apt.Package objects that changed, you can then query the state with "pkg.marked_install", pkg.marked_delete
[14:49] <mvo> marked_upgrade
[14:49] <mvo> etc
[14:49] <nessita> right, and in that case call aptdaemon?
[14:50] <mvo> yes, if "is_installed" is all you need to know then that is enough, no need to run mark_install()
[14:50] <mvo> if you are interessted in the changes that it would trigger, then the later is the better option
[14:52] <hallyn> is xscreensaver expected to lock up in unity right now?
[14:55] <Amaranth> expected? no, probably not
[14:56] <Amaranth> I doubt anyone has even tried it
[16:19] <nessita> mvo: hey, are you available for another aptdaemon question?
[16:26] <xclaesse> cyphermox, pong
[16:59] <mvo> nessita: aptdaemon questions, please ask! sorry for the delay, I was in a conf call
[17:25] <nessita> mvo: hey! I was having lunch, I hope you're still around. Not sure what step I'm missing since I'm getting: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/545995/
[17:25] <nessita> mvo: in that paste, client is a aptdaemon.client.AptClient()
[17:38] <devildante> nessita: it sounds like the aptdaemon dbus service file is not present on your system
[17:39] <nessita> devildante: yeah, which is very odd
[17:39] <devildante> nessita: did you check if it's present?
[17:40] <nessita> devildante: using d-feet I've got no services running on :1.112
[17:40] <nessita> only :1.11 and :1.114
[17:40] <devildante> nessita: isn't the whole point of dbus to start services only when it's needed?
[17:41] <nessita> yes, as far as I know
[17:41] <mvo> nessita: hm, odd, I just tested this http://paste.ubuntu.com/546023/ on maverick and natty and its fine for me
[17:41] <nessita> mvo: I'll re test
[17:41] <nessita> mvo: it worked now...
[17:42] <nessita> no idea what happened before. Thanks!
[17:42] <nessita> devildante: thanks to you too
[17:42] <devildante> nessita: np ;)
[17:42] <devildante> mvo: hello btw :)
[17:43] <mvo> hey devildante
[17:43] <mvo> nessita: hm, maybe it crashed? anyhting in /var/crash ?
[17:44]  * nessita looks
[17:44] <nessita> /var/crash is empty
[17:44]  * mvo scratches head
[17:47] <nessita> mvo: when  I tested this I didn't run any mainloop
[17:47] <nessita> maybe that was the cause?
[17:47] <mvo> nessita: indeed, that sounds plausible
[17:47] <mvo> nessita: sorry for not mentioning this, there are gtk widget available btw if you need to show progress etc
[17:48] <nessita> mvo: yes, I've seen it in the rythmobox u1 plugin :-)
[17:48] <nessita> thanks!
[17:49] <mvo> cheers!
[18:26] <Shred00> if i have a bzr checkout of http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/evolution/ubuntu/ i assume i won't see any changes that were made for a maverick-proposed evolution until it's accepted into maverick-updates, is that correct?