[06:32] <neonkidxy> Hey I have a 700mb CD-R how do I burn ubuntu to it?
[06:33] <Blue1> CFHowlett: got a minute?  the computer I had the notes on how to install the kanji character set died yesterday (bad sata controller) do you still have that old pastebin address?
[06:33] <CFHowlett> neonkidxy   from windows or ubuntu
[06:33] <hiexpo> makara, you useing compiz
[06:33] <chipotle> Xeneth: if it's not installed can i install it?
[06:33] <neonkidxy> ubuntu
[06:33] <chipotle> i think the intel boot manager is getting in the way...
[06:33] <CFHowlett> Blue1   hey what's up
[06:33] <makara> hiexpo: yes
[06:33] <neonkidxy> I mean windows
[06:33] <stiltzkin> bobo37773, I just think it's weird that a) this only happens with flash media, and b) that it always seems to be the same percentage shown on the file copy dialog when it freezes. For a 400MB file it'll be 390MB. For a 300MB file it'll be 290MB. Usually a 10-15MB difference
[06:33] <hiexpo> than it works
[06:34] <Xeneth> chipotle, Likely, but would need to ask someone with more knowledge then I.
[06:34] <hiexpo> makara, compiz = 3d
[06:34] <Blue1> CFHowlett: computer died overnight before daily backups.
[06:34] <neonkidxy> The .iso is 709mb and I only have a 700mb CD-R
[06:34] <CFHowlett> Blue1 you're having a rough weekend...
[06:34] <urfr332gO> neonkidxy, should fit cd have a little of a buffer
[06:34] <Blue1> neonkidxy: is that the latest release of ubuntu?
[06:34] <hiexpo> than get a dvd
[06:34] <makara> hiexpo: I have virtualbox with Win7 and Autocad, but Autocad not using 3D hardware acceleration
[06:34] <stiltzkin> bobo37773, oh, and the other thing I've tried is using the plain cp command...takes roughly the same amount of time. Far slower than to any hard drive I own.
[06:34] <Blue1> CFHowlett: and how.   I think I found a pci card that will work -
[06:35] <CFHowlett> Blue1  seeking the link ...
[06:35] <neonkidxy> I don't really like the unity interface so I'm going with 10.10, are you sure it'll burn okay?
[06:35] <makara> hiexpo: VirtualBox settings checkbox for 3D is on
[06:35] <hiexpo> makara, we don't support windows here
[06:35] <bobo37773> stiltzkin: I had more luck with cp and rsync when I had this problem then with the gui.
[06:35] <Escherial> hey, does anyone happen to know of a way to suspend in ubuntu and then restart into windows?
[06:35] <Blue1> neonkidxy: yeah a cd is plenty big for 10.10
[06:36] <Escherial> i guess it'd be what people usually call "hibernating", e.g. serializing the contents of RAM to a file to be restored when the OS boots up again
[06:36] <neonkidxy> The cd only have 700 mb and the .iso is 709 though
[06:36] <neonkidxy> has*
[06:36] <Blue1> neonkidxy: which iso for what release?
[06:36] <neonkidxy> The regular one for 10.10
[06:37] <CFHowlett> Blue1   this solution still seems to work
[06:37] <CFHowlett> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/install-japanese-and-korean-in-ubuntu-9-04-a-731217/
[06:37] <urfr332gO> neonkidxy, 10.10 end of life meaning no support April 2012
[06:38] <Gitzo> is there a commandline software installer lke zypper or yum?
[06:38] <Blue1> CFHowlett: thank you
[06:38] <neonkidxy> Well I can go to 10.04
[06:38] <CFHowlett> Blue1   have fun/be safe
[06:38] <hiexpo> Escherial, we don't support any windows help here
[06:38] <Blue1> CFHowlett: no choice - thanks
[06:38] <CFHowlett> Blue1   also see http://askubuntu.com/questions/23348/do-i-need-to-install-japanese-truetype-font-ume-font
[06:39] <Blue1> hiexpo: not true:  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[06:39] <urfr332gO> neonkidxy, yeah go 10.04 it is april 2013.
[06:39] <neonkidxy> And I just burn it like normal?
[06:39] <CFHowlett> Gitzo   to install what
[06:40] <urfr332gO> neonkidxy, burn as a image at slow speed.
[06:40] <Blue1> neonkidxy: no you can't just copy an iso to a cd -- what programme ru using to create the cd?
[06:40] <hiexpo> that should have never happened
[06:40] <neonkidxy> Okay, I usually use a flash drive so this is new territory for me.
[06:40] <Gitzo> CFHowlett: to install anything..  + updates..  im just wondering if there is ?
[06:40] <neonkidxy> Infra recorder
[06:40] <Blue1> neonkidxy: than why not use a flash drive - hang on I have a recipe
[06:41] <Escherial> hiexpo: regardless, it has nothing to do with windows; it could be any other operating system that i'm dual booting
[06:41] <Escherial> or say that i just want to hibernate the machine and shut it down to conserve power...how would i do that?
[06:41] <CFHowlett> Gitzo   sudo apt-get install // sudo apt-get upgrade ??
[06:41] <urfr332gO> neonkidxy, infra recorder will burn a image just uise slowest speed.
[06:42] <neonkidxy> The computer I want to put it on won't support booting from a flash drive
[06:43] <Blue1> neonkidxy: http://pkill-9.com/creating-a-usb-flash-drive-for-a-debian-install/
[06:43] <Blue1> neonkidxy: then skip the recipe I just gave you
[06:43] <neonkidxy> I know how to install from a flashdrive
[06:43] <urfr332gO> neonkidxy, you can use plop install it in windows to boot a thumb.
[06:44] <urfr332gO> neonkidxy, http://www.plop.at/
[06:44] <CFHowlett> neonkidxy   if you're computer won't support usb boot, I'm guess it's older or lower spec.  The alternate installer (text based) might be a better option for you as would possibly xubuntu or lubuntu.
[06:45] <CFHowlett> *your computer*
[06:45] <urfr332gO> neonkidxy, use unetbootin to load the thumb there is a windows version.
[06:45] <neonkidxy> I'm burning it at 4x speed, and I've tried those
[06:46] <urfr332gO> neonkidxy, if you can't boot a thumb your best with a cd really in the long run a a tool.
[06:46] <urfr332gO> as*
[06:47] <Blue1> must be an old machine - more then 10 years ago
[06:47] <bird> hello
[06:47] <Blue1> howdy tex bird
[06:47] <CFHowlett> bird   tweet
[06:48] <bird> This is my first tohere
[06:48] <Escherial> ok, so apparently the reason i can't hibernate is because i don't have a swap partition. unfortunately, i don't have the ubuntu install cd handy...is there any way i can create a swap partition without it? alternatively, can i just create a swapfile and expect to be able to hibernate?
[06:49] <CFHowlett> bird   what's your ubuntu question?
[06:49] <bird> No,think you
[06:49] <CFHowlett> Escherial   creating partitions can only be done safely while dismounted.  sorry.
[06:50] <urfr332gO> Escherial, a swap cauld be made if you have a unallocated or make one in home. Not having a disc is not good by the way.
[06:50] <Blue1> what urfr332gO said
[06:50] <markSander> Why are there no woman or niggers that use Linux? OK its a know fact that woman have an IQ that is lower then mean. But Ubuntu is retarded easy. I for one want to see more niggers on nix systems.  Woman OTOH are just hopeless. Any ideas? Don't use Ubuntu (ArchLinux) but I figured I would find woman and niggers here who are willing to have an open debate on the subject.
[06:50] <urfr332gO> !op | markSander
[06:51] <CFHowlett> *annnnnnnnnd another troll gets added to the eternal ignore roll*
[06:51] <Blue1> someone escort him to the exit
[06:52] <Blue1> How long is forever sir?  it's an eternity.
[06:52] <tempest> Looks like that IP is a VPN =/
[06:52] <Escherial> meh :|
[06:53] <CFHowlett> tempest   how can you tell?
[06:53] <tempest> CFHowlett I looked it up. Says "Hide My Ass" VPN
[06:54] <CFHowlett> tempest   lol.  ok, that is a somwehat subtle clue.
[06:55] <LoganShaw> is ubottu an AI Sentinel?
[06:55] <smw> !anything
[06:55] <Blue1> uh-oh.  in 5 minutes I revert back to a pumpkin
[06:55] <smw> LoganShaw, I would say yes
[06:57] <urfr332gO> !cookie | smw
[06:57] <Blue1> do they serve donuts?
[06:58]  * smw wonders if it is a sarcasm cookie but takes it anyways
[06:58] <urfr332gO> only voodoo donuts.
[06:58] <tilde_> !exfat
[06:58] <Blue1> urfr332gO: I've heard of them -- northwest -- seattle or portland I want to say?
[06:58] <LoganShaw> whoa somebody programmed a pseudo-personality into the sentinel
[06:59] <urfr332gO> Blue1, Portland I'm 20 blocks from it.
[06:59] <fluvvell> does anyone know the secret to logging into the Mythbuntu live CD?
[06:59] <smw> LoganShaw, it is GLaDOS in disguise
[06:59] <Blue1> urfr332gO: please next time you go there, take a picture for me.
[06:59] <Zillow> how can I change a username and have it reflect upon everything
[06:59] <urfr332gO> Blue1, I never go though I wouldn't leave. :)
[06:59] <Blue1> urfr332gO: we only get the "quality challenged" donuts here.
[06:59] <smw> fluvvell, it is not supported here. But have you tried the user ubuntu?
[07:00] <fluvvell> smw, yes but it wants a password
[07:00] <fluvvell> and its not null
[07:00] <smw> fluvvell, ubuntu?
[07:00] <fluvvell> nope
[07:00] <Blue1> urfr332gO: you don't have to buy a donut, to take a pic.
[07:00] <smw> fluvvell, check the mythbuntu docs I guess
[07:00] <fluvvell> well, maybe but it gives a failed to login to failsafe session...
[07:00] <urfr332gO> Blue1, even better, http://voodoodoughnut.com/index.php
[07:01] <fluvvell> to be honest it looks like a graphics card failure smw,
[07:01] <fluvvell> driver i mean
[07:01] <Blue1> fruit loops on a donut?
[07:01] <fluvvell> it really annoys me when flagship boot cds don't work for inexperienced users
[07:02] <Ben64> flagship?
[07:02] <urfr332gO> Blue1, bacon as well.
[07:03] <fluvvell> Ben64, ok dumb word
[07:03] <fluvvell> but its a good product to demo, and it *should* just work!!
[07:03] <biopyte> hi. i just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and there are several issues: First: Why doesnt "Ctrl + left button" grab the window, so it can be dragged around? Second: Why cant I move windows from one desktop to the other using a desktop wall? also sliding from one desktop to the other by touching the edges with the mouse doe not work anymore.
[07:03] <Ben64> go tell mythbuntu?
[07:04] <Blue1> oh lord
[07:04] <fluvvell> Ben64, nobody there to complain to ;-) Thanks for listening.
[07:06] <biopyte> 11.10 is a disappointment. the classic gnome desktop does not look as good as it used to. gnome3 and unity are inacceptable.
[07:06] <crizzy> classic gnome sucks. unity ftw
[07:07] <Blue1> crizzy: let's not start any flame wars
[07:07] <crizzy> no flame, just opinions
[07:07] <CFHowlett> Fortunately there are at least 4 other official ubuntu flavors as well as hundreds of other distros.
[07:07] <biopyte> i'm afraid we have the climax of ubuntu behind us. now comes "fixing things that were not broken" and messing everything up..
[07:08] <Blue1> what biopyte said
[07:08] <freshone0> i have no sound how do i corect the problem?
[07:08] <biopyte> i hope not so
[07:08] <freshone0> how do i check what is wrong
[07:09] <Blue1> biopyte: i am on 10.10 and will prolly go to debian rsn (reall soon now)
[07:09] <crizzy> yes, because debian will save you from gnome3.. not.
[07:09] <freshone0> no sound on my speakers or head phones
[07:09] <Blue1> I migrated on of my mahcines to debian - then the sata controller took a dump
[07:09] <crizzy> gnome2 is EOL and it will disappear from every distro
[07:10] <Blue1> crizzy: perhaps -- but I know that Linus went to xfce rather then use gnome 3.
[07:10] <freshone0> iam new to ubuntu please tell me if there is no sound how does one check and correct it
[07:10] <biopyte> yeah, maybe xfce
[07:10] <Blue1> freshone0:  System/Administration/System Testing
[07:10] <biopyte> i never tried it
[07:11] <crizzy> Blue1: just like xfce is right in the ubuntu repos, apt-get away...
[07:11] <freshone0> did that it generated a report that failed afew tests
[07:11] <freshone0> now how to correct it
[07:11] <Blue1> crizzy: yup.  i may go that route
[07:11] <biopyte> crizzy, i definitly need a virtual desktop, does xfce have it?
[07:11] <crizzy> yes
[07:11] <freshone0> how to check if drivers are ok
[07:11] <biopyte> ok
[07:11] <crizzy> it's pretty close to classic gnome2
[07:11] <biopyte> cool
[07:11] <Blue1> freshone0: huh?
[07:11] <biopyte> thx
[07:12] <Warp4> freshone0 lspci
[07:12] <tempest> biopyte I am using Debian wheezy at work. We use xfce and have make it look just like Gnome 2.32. Compiz and all. Today Forfox (they called it IW) 10.0.2. For desktops use the Wheezy version. The repos are freash. If you give Unity a chance its not all that bad though.
[07:12] <freshone0> what is that?
[07:12] <freshone0> do i type that in the terminal?
[07:12] <Warp4> freshone0 yes
[07:12] <Blue1> freshone0: try lspci | grep Audio
[07:12] <Warp4> freshone0 lspci lists pci devices installed in your system
[07:13] <biopyte> tempest, thanks,  concerning unity anf gnome3 ... when i see these oversized, baby-style icons ... i'm already fed up
[07:13] <Blue1> i have been playing with linux mint - I think that might be good for a n00b
[07:13] <tempest> biopyte if you dont like Unity you wont like Gnome3.
[07:13] <biopyte> right
[07:14] <freshone0> it shows:prasad@DIMAC-X:~$  lspci | grep Audio
[07:14] <freshone0> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[07:14] <Blue1> freshone0: ah good linux at least sees it
[07:14] <freshone0> and the word audio is in red
[07:14] <freshone0> ok then why no sound?
[07:14] <biopyte> tempest, i had such a nice workflow on my previous gnome desktop , but 11.10 f...cked it up
[07:14] <Blue1> freshone0: yeah no worry about that just highlighed the word
[07:15] <freshone0> ok now what to do next
[07:15] <Blue1> freshone0: have you looked at the alsa-mixer
[07:15] <freshone0> alsa mixer... how?
[07:15] <Blue1> freshone0: or alsamixer
[07:15] <Blue1> just type in alsamixer at the command prompt
[07:16] <freshone0> it shows a graph
[07:16] <Blue1> freshone0: yes
[07:16] <Warp4> freshone0 what version of ubuntu?
[07:16] <Blue1> that was my next question
[07:16] <freshone0> 11.04
[07:17] <Blue1> freshone0: was that a clean install, or an upgrade?
[07:17] <freshone0> upgrade
[07:17] <Blue1> freshone0: that may be the problem - upgrades are problematic at best --
[07:18] <freshone0> and it worked fine but my maid shut the pc suddenly so all sound vanished
[07:18] <Blue1> freshone0: consider backing up /etc/ and /home/   and then doing a clean install
[07:18] <CFHowlett> silly question, I know, but ... is the sound switch turned on or muted?
[07:18] <freshone0> how do i get the sound back?
[07:18] <Blue1> freshone0: see above
[07:18] <biopyte> still, is there a way to tweak edge flipping again using classic gnome on 11.10. the setting in the compiz manager is fine, still doesnt work.
[07:18] <biopyte> ?
[07:19] <CFHowlett> freshone0   is there a sound mute button on your keyboard?
[07:19] <freshone0> no
[07:19] <freshone0> and on screen volume is full
[07:20] <freshone0> i checked sound preferences it is not mute
[07:20] <Blue1> freshone0: did the alsa mixer show anything muted, or at zero?
[07:20] <Warp4> freshone0 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1744966
[07:20] <freshone0> internal bar shows no color
[07:21] <CFHowlett> freshone0   = muted
[07:21] <Xeneth> night peeps.
[07:21] <freshone0> the last coloumn in the alsamixer shows no color
[07:22] <CFHowlett> freshone0   "last one"?  no labels underneath the bar?  let's be precise if possible.
[07:22] <freshone0> internal label
[07:22] <Gitzo> wow..   ubuntu is intersting
[07:22] <CFHowlett> freshone0  Master should be maxed
[07:22] <Blue1> freshone0: should show green/white/red
[07:22] <Ububegin> I have added a new opencv.pc file to pkg--config.. but I still see the old pkg--config.. How do i update/refresh it to the new one w/o restarting the computre
[07:23] <freshone0> master = green white
[07:23] <freshone0> pcm=green white red
[07:23] <CFHowlett> freshone0   I'm pretty sure "internal" is the PC Beep, i.e. system sounds.  Have you tried a video or music cd?
[07:23] <Blue1> Ububegin: sudo apt-get update follwed by sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:23] <freshone0> mic green white red
[07:24] <Blue1> what about pcm?
[07:24] <Blue1> okay pumpkin time
[07:24] <Blue1> !away
[07:25] <Ububegin> Blue1 : Think it is a wrong solution... didnt work
[07:25] <Blue1> Ububegin: you can also use synaptic to remove/re-install a package -- or apt-get to remove or purge a package
[07:27] <Ububegin> Blue1 : sorry, let me rephrase the question.. I have the default opencv 2.1 by Ubuntu.. I have installed the new one opencv2.3 from the tar.gz.. Anyone knows how to configure it for pkg-config.... I just copied the new opencv.pc file onto the /usr/lib/pkgconfig folder
[07:37] <nn52> hello
[07:38] <nn52> i've problem with WiFi USB Adapter ( Edimax) => http://wklej.to/TaC5M | in Wirless Networks: Disconnected ;(
[07:41] <urfr332gO> !wifi
[07:42] <LoganShaw> how to trigger the SENTINEL into saying things?
[07:43] <urfr332gO> nn52, Edimax isl isted on the bots page not sure if it is your model though.
[07:43] <nn52> EW-7711USn
[07:44] <E-nigma> Hello all
[07:45] <nn52> The problem is that: Network applet does not show the available networks. It says only: Disconnected
[07:45] <urfr332gO> nn52, you will have to look yourself really, personally since usb wifi is cheap I would get one that works out of the box.
[07:45] <nn52> on box is : Support Windows 2k/Xp/Vista/7,Linux,Mac 10.4.x and above
[07:46] <elisa87> hello. are you aware of any room related to machine learning or information retrieval?
[07:48] <urfr332gO> nn52, about 300 or more linux distros though, the bots page gives a list of ones that work that one is not there.
[07:48] <urfr332gO> nn52, does not mean you can't get it to but your hill to climb really. :)
[07:49] <Guest88535> test from irssi
[08:01] <ubuntu_dream2k2> hi
[08:01] <LoganShaw> hello
[08:01] <ubuntu_dream2k2> im installing 10.04 LTS server
[08:01] <ubuntu_dream2k2> and its taking a long time at "wiping swap area...."
[08:02] <ubuntu_dream2k2> hi loganshaw
[08:02] <Yancho_> guys is it possible to check if a cd has a 32 bit version or a 64 bit version please?
[08:03] <ubuntu_dream2k2> anyone can throw some light
[08:04] <jaytee77> wow no hot ladies here huh?
[08:05] <borkedhelix> does openldap only allow connections from localhost by default for some reason?
[08:05] <borkedhelix> I just installed an openldap server, and I can connect to it from localhost, but not remotely
[08:06] <Engin> is it recommended to upgrade kernel on a ubuntu server ? if so, why they are held back by default ?
[08:11] <Engin> 1400 users and no one talking ?
[08:11] <urfr332gO> Engin, hey most are idling. :)
[08:12] <LoganShaw> it's quiet time, the AI said so
[08:13] <jaytee77> any hot florida ladies wanna chat?
[08:13] <jaytee77>  8-)
[08:13] <urfr332gO> jaytee77, wrong channel.
[08:13] <jaytee77> o
[08:13] <jaytee77> k
[08:13] <jaytee77> ;p
[08:14] <jaytee77> what channel
[08:14] <jaytee77> ?
[08:14] <urfr332gO> jaytee77, no idea
[08:14] <jaytee77> ty
[08:15] <jaytee77> new here,srry
[08:15] <Engin> wow, a system with 300 days uptime... was telling me reboot required... i rebooted.. now plymouthd consuming 100% CPU, slowing it down
[08:19] <dejoker> vb b b
[08:20] <malkauns> Engin, dont reboot it next time :P
[08:34] <haylo> ok so i slimed down my ubuntu install to just openbox and fglx and remastersys- but i  accideantly have no sound- brobably deleted all the sound stuff? is there an easy fix for this? i am 4 generations in to a new iso. alsamixer does not work right
[08:34] <haylo> like install magical-ubuntusoundsystem?
[08:34] <nathaneltitane> pulseaudio
[08:35] <haylo> yeah i installed that it shows its running but no sound
[08:35] <T_H_X> love pulse
[08:35] <nathaneltitane> open terminal
[08:35] <nathaneltitane> alsamixer
[08:35] <nathaneltitane> pump all gauges to max
[08:35] <haylo> no alsamixer
[08:36] <haylo> maybe i need backports?
[08:36] <nathaneltitane> so install the alsa
[08:36] <nathaneltitane> you should verify dependencies before purging
[08:36] <haylo> yeah
[08:37] <haylo> its installed oh well maybe i will have to start over :(
[08:37] <nathaneltitane> no
[08:37] <nathaneltitane> look into the mixer stuff first
[08:38] <haylo> i cant open it. it says alsa is installed but alsamixer brings nothing up command not found
[08:38] <haylo> ah i opned it with sudo
[08:40] <Seryth> I'm just trying openbox for the first time, and I'm trying to use obmenu to configure, but when I run "obmenu" from terminal I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/858879/ I've tried purging it and installing again, same thing....what could I do?   I set the auth-type to user, but it's not actually able to log in. Does anyone know what this problem might be?
[09:14] <sgo11> hi, how to install apache mod-security module in ubuntu 11.10?  I tried : apt-get install libapache-mod-security mod-security-common. it gives me error: libapache-mod-security : Depends: libapache2-modsecurity but it is not going to be installed.
[09:15] <oCean> Rurd2di: check the /etc/update-motd.d/ directory, there's a couple of script that update the motd file: 91-release-upgrade does the check for available updates
[09:17] <Rurd2di> oCean: can i delete it?
[09:17] <Rurd2di> without harming the os
[09:17] <oCean> Rurd2di: I added an exit 0 on the 2nd line..
[09:18] <Rurd2di> at the end?
[09:18] <Sakuya> I have a simple question about ram timings. What would be the best channel to ask about that or is here okay?
[09:19] <oCean> Rurd2di: you can probably delete it, but since I'm not sure if anything else is going to complain about missing files I edit it like so: http://paste.ubuntu.com/858918/
[09:19] <Rurd2di> http://paste.ubuntu.com/858918/
[09:20] <metabaron_> Hi all. What's up with the SYSV (init.d) vs Upstart? The default runlevels for example "sendsig" seems to be wrong in rc6.d
[09:20] <Rurd2di> oops
[09:20] <DJones> Sakuya: Possibly ##hardware might be the best channel for that
[09:20] <undeclaredx> I'm having some issues with samba.  I set the auth-type to user, but no user is able to log in, even if I manually set it to valid users = name_of_user_here for that share.. Does anyone know what this problem might be?
[09:20] <Sakuya> Thanks DJones
[09:21] <metabaron_> As a result to this filesystems doesn't get unmounted like they should (Ohh... yes... running Lucid)
[09:23] <nomad_fr> Hi
[09:23] <Rurd2di> thanks oCean
[09:23] <Rurd2di> that fixed it for good
[09:24] <Rurd2di> :D
[09:24] <Rurd2di> no more update warning
[09:26] <Sakuya> DJones: Thanks again for directing me to that channel. Didn't know it existed but they were able to help me no problem =D
[09:26] <nomad_fr> I've got some trouble with my user on ubuntu 11.10. It seems that there choice of session isn't record... Each time they log on with gdm they have to choose xfce or gnome or kde, i want that this choise to be record
[09:26] <DJones> Sakuya: Your welcome
[09:37] <devpilot> which IM Client is best on ubuntu?
[09:37] <god-zotac> devpilot:: that could vary based on opinion
[09:37] <crizzy> empathy / pidgin are fine
[09:37] <Yancho_> pidgin for me
[09:38] <god-zotac> devpilot:: try out empathy or gaim and make the decision
[09:38] <god-zotac> err not gaim but pidgin ;)
[09:38] <devpilot> I tried Empathy and Pidgin both have some bugs, some pros and cons
[09:39] <LoganShaw> do they both put your passwords in super secured, NSA-approved plaintext files?
[09:40] <god-zotac> lol
[09:41] <devpilot> god-zotac: I liked pidgin more bcoz i.m using it for long time, but Empathy have mice interface ;)
[09:41] <devpilot> *nice
[09:42] <undeclaredx> hehe
[09:42] <god-zotac> empathy has came a long way i agree. but pidgin interface hasn't really changed a lot.. some people like things that change, and some people like things to stay as close to the same as possilbe..  diff strokes for diff folks ;)
[09:42] <devpilot> lol :D
[09:42] <god-zotac> with empathy being maintained by the gnome project, i wouldn't expect it to stay anywhere near the same for very long ;)
[09:44] <metabaron_> Do anyone have a clue how to restore the SYSV runlevels? Running Lucid. Do I need to do this manually?
[09:44] <devpilot> god-zotac: U mean the bugs and enhancement will be quicker for Empathy
[09:44] <Guest72262> hey
[09:45] <god-zotac> devpilot:: i mean that the interface is liable to change in the next release to  be completely different than what it is now
[09:45] <devpilot> Oh
[09:45] <Guest72262> whats empathy?
[09:46] <devpilot> Guest72262: Empathy is a IM client
[09:46] <metabaron_> Guest72262: empathy is a instant messaging client
[09:46] <god-zotac> Guest72262:: it is an instant messenger based on gtk+ and telepathy
[09:46] <Guest72262> interesting
[09:46] <Guest72262> is it like this i mean with the anynonimity
[09:47] <Guest72262> or do you not need a tor or something like vidalia
[09:47] <god-zotac> Guest72262:: what is anonymous about<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:48] <kalim0j0> anyone use cryptkeeper ?
[09:48] <devpilot> I like the speech bubble style chat on  Empathy, Is there something on pidgin to get such style
[09:49] <metabaron_> Guest72262: your host is known to us. You will need to register to get a "hidden" host. But then you are registered...
[09:49] <god-zotac> devpilot:: yea thats one of the slickest features in empathy i agree
[09:49] <god-zotac> hidden host being a cloak. and you will need to get that in ##Freenode
[09:49] <Guest72262> gotcha
[09:49] <god-zotac> may just be #Freenode
[09:50] <Guest72262> how do i register?
[09:50] <dddbmt> Which clients is there for running Skype chat under ubuntu?
[09:50] <god-zotac> Guest72262:: /msg nickserv register help
[09:50] <Myrtti> as interesting as comparing different IM clients is, could we move back to Ubuntu support issues and questions? I'm afraid that part is being neglected now.
[09:50] <DJones> !register | Guest72262
[09:50] <dddbmt> I don't  want the "Skype" program as it is a piece of shitty software.
[09:50] <Myrtti> !language | dddbmt
[09:50] <nomad_fr> I've got some trouble with my user on ubuntu 11.10. It seems that there choice of session isn't record... Each time they log on with gdm they have to choose xfce or gnome or kde, i want that this choise to be record
[09:51] <Myrtti> dddbmt: Skype is proprietary protocol, if you want to call others using Skype, you need Skype.
[09:51] <god-zotac> dddbmt:: skype uses a proprietary protocol, i'm not aware of any clients that will connect to skype network without breaking their licensing
[09:51] <devpilot> dddbmt: Skype have there own client on ubuntu
[09:51] <metabaron_> Are there any limitations for webchat users here?
[09:52] <god-zotac> has google ever done anything with gizmo since it purchased it?
[09:52] <undeclaredx> Nobody can help me? Been asking the same question for like half an hour..  I have a samba login (only one is valid for this share), security = user, and no matter what I type, the l/p will not work.  Even tried local machine, no go.
[09:52] <oCean> god-zotac: how is that an #ubuntu issue?
[09:52] <Myrtti> undeclaredx: you made a smbpassword?
[09:52] <god-zotac> metabaron_:: limitations with the client not being a full IRC client yes, as far as just chatting and using the server commands no
[09:52] <oCean> metabaron_: on the freenode network? Ask in #freenode channel
[09:52] <undeclaredx> Myrtti: no, I was hoping user would use the unix auth? I have to make an smbpassword?
[09:52] <god-zotac> oCean:: wow, my BAD
[09:53] <metabaron_> Ok oCean god-zotac: thanks and sorry
[09:53] <dddbmt> god-zotac, Not even if I'm only interested in the chat part of skype? Not talking.
[09:53] <undeclaredx> Myrtti: so security = user does not rely on unix auth? my bad..
[09:53] <kalim0j0> anyone use cryptkeeper ?
[09:53] <Myrtti> undeclaredx: the exact command is smbpasswd actually, I haven't used it for a while but you might find more information on it yourself
[09:54] <kalim0j0> anyone know how strong encfs is ?
[09:54] <undeclaredx> weird
[09:54] <resident> O.O wats cryptkeeper
[09:54] <Myrtti> dddbmt: all implementations I've seen require you to have Skype client installed and running, even if you are using some other client to interact with that
[09:54] <kalim0j0> resident: its a frontend gui for encfs
[09:54] <Seryth> I'm just trying openbox for the first time, and I'm trying to use obmenu to configure, but when I run "obmenu" from terminal I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/858879/ I've tried purging it and installing again, same thing....what could I do? Ubuntu 11.10 32 bit.
[09:54] <resident> trilliam on windows can connect to skype
[09:55] <resident> w/o skype running
[09:55] <god-zotac> trillian is available for linux too isnt it?
[09:55] <resident> i do not recall
[09:55] <Seryth> It is
[09:55] <ServoVonServo> so i should be hidden now that im registered?
[09:55] <ServoVonServo> so im hidden now?
[09:56] <oCean> ServoVonServo: no, you need to ask for a cloak in #freenode channel
[09:56] <god-zotac> ServoVonServo:: no you don't have a cloak
[09:56] <devpilot> :D
[09:56] <undeclaredx> Myrtti: heh that instantly worked.. wish someone could have told me that awhile ago ;)
[09:56] <god-zotac> ServoVonServo:: see how EdwardIII had the unaffiliated/edward123  ?  that's a cloak.. it hides his IP/domain name
[09:57] <extender> I'm trying to forward a port to an internal address, not sure where I'm going wrong, what's the best tool for this using ubuntu server?
[09:57] <kalim0j0> anyone know how strong encfs is ?
[09:57] <ServoVonServo> how do i get a cloak
[09:57] <oCean> ServoVonServo: again, ask in #freenode, not here
[09:57] <god-zotac> extender:: do you have a firewall outside the box that runs nat?
[09:57] <god-zotac> extender:: or is your server using iptables with nat and acting as a gateway?
[09:58] <extender> god-zotac: the server is DMZed
[09:58] <Jan_-> hello, I have a problem, I have a encrypted home folder from previous account that I can not access, how to access it? I have the pass phrase and password written down when it said to do so :D
[09:58] <extender> god-zotac: but I'm on the internal network
[09:58] <god-zotac> extender:: then you will need to set up your server to be a gateway and use nat, and then use iptables to forward ports to each machine
[09:59] <swaikar> ritz, ping
[09:59] <extender> god-zotac: I'm only trying to set a single rule
[09:59] <god-zotac> extender::  i have a nat/dns/dhcp system set up on my server, if you would like me to pastebin the iptables rules with comments i use i don't mind
[10:00] <extender> god-zotac: that might help
[10:00] <undeclaredx> Myrtti: much appreciated.
[10:00] <Myrtti> undeclaredx: np
[10:00] <god-zotac> extender:: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/557406/
[10:01] <manisabri> Hi guys . I have a pen tablet, and a dual monitor setup in 11.04 , who can I restrict my pen movement only to one monitor?
[10:01] <extender> I just want to forward <IP_ADDRESS>:8888 to <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[10:01] <god-zotac> extender you will first want to get nat up
[10:02] <extender> god-zotac: for 1 rule?
[10:02] <god-zotac> extender:: set the external modem or whatever to forward port 8888 to your dmz'd server
[10:03] <extender> god-zotac: everything goes to the server
[10:03] <god-zotac> and then set a rule to forward to port 80 on machine 101 like:  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -i ${WAN} -j DNAT --to <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:04] <god-zotac> extender::  $WAN being your interface for the external network, usually eth0
[10:04] <extender> here is what I did
[10:05] <extender> god-zotac: sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 8888 -j DNAT --to <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[10:05] <ServoVonServo> now cloaked
[10:05] <extender> god-zotac: sudo iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -i eth0 -d <IP_ADDRESS> --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[10:05] <ServoVonServo> does anyone know of a good jailbreak program for an ipod touch running ios 4.3.5
[10:05] <ikonia> ServoVonServo: sorry, no jailbreaking applications on ubuntu
[10:06] <god-zotac> extender:: don't think iptables takes rules in the form of ipaddress:port
[10:06] <ServoVonServo> gotcha
[10:06] <_nullthree> hi
[10:06] <ServoVonServo> eh ill figure something out
[10:07] <god-zotac> extender:: that may work, but you may need to just add a simple forward --dport 80
[10:07] <ServoVonServo> i have other systems with other os' on them so i could try those
[10:07] <ikonia> ServoVonServo: they would be supported in other IRC channels
[10:07] <extender> god-zotac: overwhelmed got an example?
[10:07] <ServoVonServo> yea im worried i wont be cloaked on other servers
[10:08] <ikonia> ServoVonServo: you will be cloaked on any freenode server
[10:08] <ServoVonServo> ohhh
[10:08] <ikonia> ServoVonServo: any questions regarding things such as cloaking can be resolved in #freenode
[10:08] <ServoVonServo> ok so any server nice
[10:08] <ServoVonServo> alright ill shut up now lol
[10:08] <god-zotac> extender:: are people going to be connecting to your ip on port 8888 from the internet?
[10:09] <extender> god-zotac: yes
[10:09] <god-zotac> and you want that forwarded to port 80 on the subnet?
[10:09] <extender> god-zotac: DMZ gets it to the server
[10:09] <extender> god-zotac: server needs to redirect to 56.101
[10:10] <ritz> swaikar,  hi
[10:11] <god-zotac> extender:: for the nat rule you mentioned to work you will need to add a masquerade
[10:12] <extender> god-zotac: I don't have  a clue where to add a masquerade
[10:12] <n3uron_> Hi guys. How can i detect if my system is muxed or muxless?
[10:13] <god-zotac> extender:: the script i pasted has that too ;)
[10:13] <extender> god-zotac: I'm just googling examples and trying to get something to work
[10:13] <extender> god-zotac: I don't want it to nat everything
[10:13] <god-zotac> extender:: pm me and ill help you
[10:16] <wolfric> how can i install and activate restricted drivers by commandline? I saw that it mentioned "broadcom sta" in the restricted drivers window
[10:16] <ndlovu> can anyone help me diagnose a mobile broadband issue (ubuntu 11.10)? After startup, if I plug in my 3g modem (USB), the connection shows up in Network Manager; but if the computer suspends, on wakeup, no amount of plugging in or out will get it to show up again. to connect, I have to restart.
[10:17] <wolfric> so i apt-get install broadcom-sta-common and broadcom-sta-source and restarted but it didn't activate them. i had to go to the restricted drivers window and click activate. I need to know as i'm building a live cd with them
[10:20] <anders_at> Hi. I have some questions regarding the ubuntu training courses. IS there a separate IRC room for that?
[10:20] <ikonia> anders_at: not that I'm aware of
[10:20] <ikonia> anders_at: maybe #ubuntu-offtopic would be the best place.
[10:20] <anders_at> ok, I#ll try it there. Thanx
[10:21] <ServoVonServo> anyone know were i can find a good darknet site?
[10:21] <ikonia> ServoVonServo: you understand this channel is for ubuntu linux support yes ?
[10:22] <Chipzzz> i'm having a log of trouble with a bind9 server... been trying to get it to work for days... are there any experts on the subject around?
[10:22] <Chipzzz> (lot)
[10:22] <ikonia> Chipzzz: just ask the question
[10:23] <Tigerwolf> i want my tower to run ubuntu but one or the other fails to work properly
[10:23] <ServoVonServo> ikonia sorry i have a couple things open i think i posted in the wrong window
[10:23] <ServoVonServo> but since im now focused on this i did have a WINE question
[10:23] <ikonia> ServoVonServo: #winehq is the wine support channel (FYI)
[10:23] <Tigerwolf> the cd setting is good on the tower
[10:23] <Chipzzz> ikonia: after a couple of days, i'm pretty much out of questions... looking more for inspiration, i think, but thanks :-)
[10:24] <fidel> Tigerwolf: whats the problem?
[10:24] <ikonia> Chipzzz: how do you expect me to help you when you won't say what the question/problem is ?
[10:24] <ServoVonServo> thanks ikonia :)
[10:24] <Tigerwolf> linux fails to load on boot up
[10:24] <Tigerwolf> after wubi
[10:25] <Chipzzz> lol... in a nutshell, the bind9 server isn't resolving hosts
[10:25] <fidel> not used to wubi myself - cant help you sorry. but try to mention the real problem - in best case with error output etc
[10:25] <fidel> meta-questions usually dont help in irc ;)
[10:25] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok - so what have you done to resolve this ? how are you testing, are there any errors, you need to give details if you are expecting help
[10:26] <Tigerwolf> ok i tryed the cd it has a problem loading the stuff
[10:26] <darrenlooby> Hello, I have an internal and external network. All internal IPs start with 10.*
[10:26] <darrenlooby> How do I block access using IP Tables to anything that doesn't start with 10.*
[10:26] <Tigerwolf> it has hundreds of errors loading this and that
[10:27] <Tigerwolf> i know the dl is complete
[10:27] <ikonia> Tigerwolf: have you tried ubuntu firewall ?
[10:27] <ikonia> !ufw > darrenlooby
[10:27] <ikonia> Tigerwolf: sorry that was for darrenlooby
[10:27] <ikonia> darrenlooby: have you tried ubuntu fire wall ? (ufw)
[10:27] <fidel> Tigerwolf: what is your main goal to install ubuntu? why would you need wubi for that?
[10:27] <darrenlooby> ikonia, I'm using UFW, yes.
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> Tigerwolf  wubi, you say?
[10:28] <fidel> Tigerwolf: have you tested if a ubuntu-live-cd works on that system?
[10:28] <Tigerwolf> wubi was my second option
[10:28] <Tigerwolf> and on boot up
[10:28] <Tigerwolf> it failed to load linux
[10:28] <darrenlooby> ikonia, I just don't know how to describe a range like that.
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> Tigerwolf  a live cd is more adviced than wubi
[10:28] <fidel> Tigerwolf: in some cases you might need to change the booting parameters - this is where the voodoo usualy begins for starters
[10:28] <Chipzzz> ikonia: i've tested the files & zones with named-checkconf & named-checkzone and they are valid but I'm trying to get it to provide A records for virtual hosts on the machine & it doesn't forward them upstream...
[10:29] <Tigerwolf> so im thinking its my tower hates linux
[10:29] <Salehi> i use ubuntu 12.4 -when i play video >x kill and logout - What can I do?
[10:29] <Tigerwolf> its old enought to use all hardware
[10:29] <Chipzzz> I put it in debug mode with rndc and saw that it is refusing requests to resolve the hosts
[10:29] <fidel> Salehi: no 12.04 support inhere
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> Tigerwolf  maybe the tower just hates wubi
[10:30] <fidel> Salehi: afaik there is #ubuntu+1 or something
[10:30] <YohanMeister>  hi all. I have 3 identical make/model drives in my machine and am trying to identify which might correspond to sda (the first drive). The way they are listed is:  "pci-0000:00:11.0-scsi-2:0:0:0"  "pci-0000:00:11.0-scsi-1:0:0:0"  and  "pci-0000:00:11.0-scsi-0:0:0:0". Does anyone know about this?
[10:30] <Tigerwolf> but live cd does about the same
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> Tigerwolf  almost, but not quite
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> it *looks* the same
[10:31] <Tigerwolf> could it be in the motherboard settings or bios?
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> the problem is wubi
[10:31] <Tigerwolf> ok
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> better use a live cd
[10:32] <Tigerwolf> ill try live cd agian
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> Tigerwolf  what went wrong with the live cd?
[10:32] <Chipzzz> ikonia: also, dig only works for a master host... the slaves all return server errors...  at the moment, i think i have the db files pretty messed up from trying so many theories, but i can straighted that out, give some clue as to why it's being so difficult :-)
[10:33] <Chipzzz> (given some clue)
[10:33] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok - lets do some basic questions
[10:33] <Chipzzz> k... lemme log into the machine...
[10:33] <ikonia> Chipzzz: 1.) is this hosted in a data center on a home DSL/broadband style line ?
[10:33] <darrenlooby> ikonia, any ideas?
[10:34] <ikonia> darrenlooby: you'll need to subnet it down, 10.* is a massive range
[10:34] <ikonia> darrenlooby: so for example, <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[10:34] <RiotingPacifist> suspend resume started failing the other day for me, I've tested on a kernel I know it worked on(3.0.0-15), the current one (3.0.0-16) and a newer one (3.3.0-rc4), it tends gets to a black screen on suspend then just hangs (if i use no_console_suspend, it says something about kworker being blocked) any idea what the cause could be?
[10:35] <Chipzzz> ikonia: it's a friend's machine in his office with a high speed connection (70mb)... fixed ip, no router in the middle
[10:35] <darrenlooby> ikonia, so, basically I'm going to need better data as to what IPs I'm expecting?
[10:35] <ikonia> Chipzzz: are you trying to resolve things internally on his netowrk, or from the public internet
[10:35] <head_victim> tci
[10:36] <ikonia> darrenlooby: well <IP_ADDRESS>/24 would be a HUGE network range, you can do that if you want, I suspect it's not what you want to do though
[10:36] <ikonia> darrenlooby: try subnetmask.info for working out your ranges/masks
[10:37] <ikonia> darrenlooby: but basically thats how you do it, <IP_ADDRESS>/8 for example, for an 8 bit mask of the <IP_ADDRESS> network
[10:37] <darrenlooby> ikonia, I'm fine with the big range for now. When I learn more, I can focus in... would it work if I put <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[10:37] <ikonia> darrenlooby: suerw
[10:37] <ikonia> sure
[10:38] <darrenlooby> ikonia, I can work on reducing the range as I move forward. Thanks for your help :D
[10:38] <Chipzzz> ikonia: the object is to get 3 virtual named servers connected to a single ip accessible on the internet
[10:38] <ikonia> darrenlooby: no problem
[10:39] <ikonia> Chipzzz: are you expecting these to ac as proper authoritive name servers ?
[10:39] <ikonia> "act"
[10:40] <wolfric> how can i install and activate restricted drivers by commandline? I saw that it mentioned "broadcom sta" in the restricted drivers window
[10:40] <wolfric> so i apt-get install broadcom-sta-common and broadcom-sta-source and restarted but it didn't activate them. i had to go to the restricted drivers window and click activate. I need to know as i'm building a live cd with them
[10:40] <Chipzzz> ikonia: i don't really care, but don't i have to in order to make their canonical names available to the net?
[10:40] <darrenlooby> ikonia, so I don't break it... do I need to do that "allow" first, and then "disallow"?
[10:40] <darrenlooby> ikonia, or is there a "not" type clause?
[10:40] <ikonia> Chipzzz: sorry, you need to care
[10:41] <ikonia> darrenlooby: the rules are iptables, so think of it as a table, the query will go down the table of rules and match the first one it matches
[10:41] <ikonia> Chipzzz: are you expecting people to be able to visit say www.yourdomain.com that is on the public internet and it work ?
[10:42] <Chipzzz> ikonia: yes, that's why i think it has to be authoritative
[10:42] <darrenlooby> So, I would do "sudo ufw allow from <IP_ADDRESS>/24 "
[10:42] <Chipzzz> doesn't it?
[10:42] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok - so then you are correct it needs to be authoritative
[10:43] <ikonia> Chipzzz: in that case you need to register the IP address / hostnames of the name servers you want to act as authoritive with the TLD name service registrar
[10:44] <Chipzzz> ikonia: done and done... the name servers at the registrar all point to a name server at one of my domains
[10:44] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok - so can you give me the public address of one of your name servers so I can run a test against it ?
[10:45] <Chipzzz> ikonia: ns1.shadyapps.com
[10:46] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok - so the domain server appears tobe listening "ok" on the net
[10:46] <ikonia> Chipzzz: can you give me one of the domains you want to resolve on this machine ?
[10:46] <Chipzzz> ikonia: sirjeffx.com
[10:46] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok
[10:48] <ikonia> Chipzzz: perfect, so they appear to be listening for that domain also, so at a top level, you look all good to go, so the issue must be with your local name server config
[10:48] <ikonia> Chipzzz: can you pastebin your configs please ?
[10:50] <Chipzzz> ikonia: k... hang on while i gather them...
[10:54] <darrenlooby> ikonia, I've added the accept and turned default to deny. Now it's just timing out when I try and ssh via an internal connection... do you think that this is because the range is too large?
[10:54] <ikonia> darrenlooby: possibly
[10:54] <ikonia> darrenlooby: what ip are you on internally
[10:55] <darrenlooby> ikonia,  <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:55] <ikonia> darrenlooby: and what was the deny rule you did
[10:56] <darrenlooby> Looking at what we've got so far - the internal IPs are starting 10.176.* and 10.177.*
[10:56] <goku886> ciao
[10:56] <darrenlooby> ikonia, "sudo ufw allow from <IP_ADDRESS>/24"
[10:56] <ikonia> darrenlooby: so that should cover your range, hang on
[10:57] <Pumpkin-> <IP_ADDRESS>/24 doesn't sound right. That is just <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>.
[10:58] <ikonia> Pumpkin-: yes, /24 isn't right
[10:58] <ikonia> I'm just gettin the info from subnetmask.info
[10:58] <Pumpkin-> <IP_ADDRESS>/15 sounds more like it
[10:58] <ikonia> Pumpkin-: I didn't have 10.176, just 10.*.*.* hence trying to make it wide
[10:58] <Pumpkin-> or <IP_ADDRESS>/8 then :)
[10:58] <ikonia> there we go
[10:58] <ikonia> darrenlooby: /8 is better
[10:58] <ikonia> Pumpkin-: thanks
[10:59] <darrenlooby> Awesome, cheers
[10:59] <darrenlooby> That's working now
[10:59] <ikonia> darrenlooby: http://www.subnetmask.info/
[10:59] <ikonia> darrenlooby: very useful
[11:00] <darrenlooby> ikonia, Pumpkin-  cheers
[11:01] <darrenlooby> ikonia, Pumpkin- I've now opened up all ports to internal - trying to work out how to limit to 22 and 3306 in combination with that allow
[11:01] <ikonia> darrenlooby: -dport
[11:02] <Chipzzz> ikonia: sorry to keep you waiting... http://paste.ubuntu.com/859013/
[11:02] <ikonia> Chipzzz: not a problem
[11:02] <darrenlooby> So, do I deny -22?
[11:02] <ikonia> darrenlooby: I thought you wanted to accept 22 ?
[11:03] <goku8866> ciao
[11:04] <ikonia> Chipzzz: I'm going to ask a stupid question here, but I don't see your domains in that file at all, I see the zone files cut and paste into that file, but that'sn ot how you set it up
[11:04] <darrenlooby> ikonia, yea. Getting confused again. Don't worry, I think I've got it sorted now
[11:04] <fAz4> is there any plan for replacing X by wayland in 12.04 ?
[11:04] <ikonia> fAz4: there was supposed to be a technology preview of wayland in 12.04 but I don't think it made it in
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> fAz4  not yet in 12.04
[11:05] <fAz4> MonkeyDust: what about future ?
[11:05] <ikonia> fAz4: #ubuntu+1 is for 12.04 discussion, no-one knows what's in beyond that
[11:06] <fAz4> thanks
[11:07] <Chaitanya_> What is the alternative to Autocad in ubuntu?
[11:07] <undeclaredx> Windows
[11:07] <undeclaredx> lol
[11:07] <undeclaredx> nah well
[11:07] <LjL> Chaitanya_: i'm afraid there isn't really a comparable alternative :\
[11:07] <undeclaredx> Autocad is a very specific app, I didn't even know they made it for ubuntu
[11:07] <ikonia> Chipzzz: cad programs are really very scarce and limited
[11:07] <undeclaredx> Mostly, you'd have to switch to Windows or Mac OS
[11:07] <ikonia> oops
[11:07] <ikonia> Chaitanya_: ^
[11:07] <undeclaredx> there is however, one.. but it's not for autocad specifically
[11:07] <undeclaredx> well a few, but they are modelling, not autocad
[11:07] <ikonia> sorry Chipzzz, let me know when you are back, I can see issues with your bind setup
[11:07] <LjL> Chaitanya_: some CAD programs are qcad, varkon, pythoncad, sagcad
[11:08] <Chaitanya_> Ljl, thank you. I will check them out and come back here. Have a nice day!  :)
[11:08] <Chaitanya_> ikonia, Ok. :(
[11:09] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys, is it advisable to remove all traces of Unity from Oneiric (apt-get remoe .*unity.*)?
[11:09] <Chipzzz> ikonia: that would explain a lot... (b/t/w/ i had an entry for sirjeffx.com in named.conf.local, but it got lost in the messing around)... any help would be appreciated...
[11:09] <himawijaya> tes
[11:09] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok, well, I can go through this with you
[11:09] <ikonia> Chipzzz: do you have the config file in front of you ?
[11:10] <Chipzzz> ikonia: yes, it's just a bunch of includes
[11:10] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok look at lines 8 - 12
[11:10] <ikonia> Chipzzz: that the line that says "how the domain shadyapps.com"
[11:10] <ubuntu-guy> hi
[11:10] <ikonia> Chipzzz: as you can see it points to a file "/etc/bind/db.shadyapps.com" that contains your zone date for shadyapps.com
[11:10] <ikonia> Chipzzz: follow ?
[11:11] <Chipzzz> ikonia: yes...
[11:11] <crizzy> Mayazcherquoi: if you don't use it you can remove it..
[11:12] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok, so that's all good, scroll down to lines 44, until the bottom of the config
[11:12] <Mayazcherquoi> crizzy: But I mean the whole thing?
[11:12] <crizzy> Mayazcherquoi: if you don't use it, sure you can remove it :)
[11:12] <ikonia> Chipzzz: that data is zone data, you don't put zone data in the config file, you put that in the zone file,
[11:12] <Mayazcherquoi> crizzy: It'll also uninstall gnome-session, but I use gnome-shell? :s
[11:12] <ikonia> Chipzzz: you put a line like lines 8 - 12 to say "host this domain, and look at this file for the zone data"
[11:12] <abhinavmehta> how to generate public-private key pair, using auto(eg. command line args) passphrase…using openssl?
[11:12] <ikonia> Chipzzz: then you put the zone data in the file you pointed at,
[11:13] <ikonia> Chipzzz: in your example, you don't have the lines that say "host this domain" you've just dumped the zone data into the config file
[11:13] <ikonia> Chipzzz: follow ?
[11:13] <ubuntu-guy> I don't see the Location bar... where it is, where is the file browser menu ?
[11:13] <crizzy> Mayazcherquoi: should not matter.. you can install gnome-session back anyway afterwards if it was necessary
[11:13] <Mayazcherquoi> crizzy: Okay
[11:13] <Mayazcherquoi> crizzy: Ta :)
[11:14] <crizzy> Mayazcherquoi: actually i don't think gnome-shell/gnome3 uses gnome-session at all
[11:14] <crizzy> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/more-classic-gnome-session-lands-in.html hmm
[11:15] <Chipzzz> ikonia: i must be looking at the wrong file... line 44 is the beginning of a reverse dns file (db.70), isn't it?
[11:15] <ikonia> Chipzzz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/859013/
[11:15] <ikonia> Chipzzz: lets look at the same reference
[11:16] <pokuy> crizzy, do you know what is the linux help channel on xchat?
[11:16] <crizzy> no
[11:17] <ikonia> pokuy: what are you looking for /
[11:17] <Chipzzz> ikonia: it is the same file... from what i was reading, i thought that was a reverse dns entry
[11:17] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok, lets try again
[11:17] <pokuy> ikonia, linux help center and ubuntu hel center
[11:17] <ikonia> pokuy: you are in an ubuntu support channel
[11:17] <ikonia> Chipzzz: so lines 8 - 12, got them ?
[11:18] <pokuy> ah... isee how about in linux mint help?
[11:18] <undeclaredx> using samba, is there any way to join 4 paths into one samba share?
[11:18] <ikonia> pokuy: that is on a different IRC network, not freenode
[11:18] <kinglet> hello all, i want to install ubuntu on my laptop and i got busybox error! (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system. is this bcuz of my H.D.D?
[11:18] <stephanb> undeclaredx: you could use symlinks
[11:18] <pokuy> ikonia, ah ok thanks man
[11:18] <undeclaredx> stephanb: I guess, but it'd take a while
[11:19] <undeclaredx> actually not that long
[11:19] <ikonia> pokuy: all detailed on the mint website
[11:19] <undeclaredx> a small ln -s shell script would be fairly easy, actually
[11:19] <Chipzzz> ikonia: yes, master zone, specifies the db file, allows transfer to a secondary ns... right?
[11:19] <ikonia> Chipzzz: correct, so in your head tick that as "that is how you define a zone"
[11:19] <ikonia> Chipzzz: so we both agree that is a good entry yes ?
[11:19] <pokuy> ikonia, ok thanks
[11:20] <undeclaredx> stephanb: but is there any non-artificial ways...
[11:20] <Chipzzz> ikonia: lol... so far, so good... and named-checkzone agreed with us that it was ok :-)
[11:21] <stephanb> undeclaredx: what exactly do you want to do? share 4 directorys as one on samba?
[11:21] <undeclaredx> pretty much
[11:21] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok so that 1 entry hosts the zone data for shadyapps.com, show me where in the config file you specify "host the data for sirjeffx.com"
[11:21] <undeclaredx> It's just annoying to navigate to 4 different places for the same context
[11:21] <stephanb> undeclaredx: well you dont even need a script for that, i think it will just work out fine and be the most convenient way to do it
[11:22] <undeclaredx> yeah I guess
[11:22] <undeclaredx> for directory in *: ln -s /basedir/$directory /otherdir/$directory
[11:22] <undeclaredx> I think that's right
[11:22] <undeclaredx> just add quotes
[11:23] <undeclaredx> one line too lmao
[11:23] <stephanb> ;)
[11:23] <undeclaredx> I need to learn more about bash shell scripting
[11:23] <undeclaredx> I just started on sed though, what a keeper ;p
[11:23] <stephanb> hehe, never looked at sed
[11:24] <undeclaredx> lets say you have a dir of ten things with spaces and you wanna convert to dots
[11:24] <undeclaredx> it's as easy as like
[11:24] <undeclaredx> $new_file=$(echo $file | sed -e 's/ /./g')
[11:24] <undeclaredx> with the above loop
[11:24] <ikonia> undeclaredx: this isn't a scripting chat channel
[11:24] <undeclaredx> it's easy
[11:24] <undeclaredx> yeah
[11:24] <ikonia> undeclaredx: are you trying to actually help someone resolve a problem ?
[11:24] <undeclaredx> ikonia: well, it is unix related though
[11:24] <undeclaredx> ikonia: no, I'm just saying I need to learn more
[11:24] <ikonia> undeclaredx: this isn't a unix related chat channel, its ubuntu support
[11:25] <stephanb> undeclaredx: i see, the same syntax as vim
[11:25] <stephanb> for replacing stuff
[11:25] <ikonia> undeclaredx: ok, please try to keep to ubuntu support, rather than general chat
[11:25] <Chipzzz> ikonia: i had it listed as a 'slave' with the ip listed as the master and a cached db.sirjeffx.com as its entry... let me fix that...
[11:25] <undeclaredx> ikonia: he was helping me with ubuntu stuff, then we got into the convo of how I'm doing it, and it turned into shell scripting, follow me? It was on topic.
[11:25] <ikonia> undeclaredx: yes, it's no longer on topic, which is why I'm asking you to stop
[11:25] <undeclaredx> yup ;)
[11:25] <undeclaredx> well that was the end of it anyway
[11:26] <Chipzzz> ikonia: (it got lost in all the messing around)
[11:26] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ah, I didn't see it in the file at all
[11:27] <Chipzzz> ikonia: should i use the cached db file for that, or the one in /etc/bind?
[11:27] <ikonia> Chipzzz: you are supposed to create a DB file containing the zone data
[11:28] <ikonia> Chipzzz: if you want it to act as a master, put it in the same locations as your other master server database files and point the zone at it
[11:29] <Chipzzz> ikonia: ok.. it now points to the db.sirjeffx.com in the pastie... give me a minute & i'll restart bind
[11:30] <ikonia> Chipzzz: clear out all the nonsense zone data at the bottom of the file
[11:32] <Chipzzz> ikonia: i remember having done that at one point and the server balked at having more than one master zone...
[11:33] <ikonia> Chipzzz: nah, that's the whole point
[11:33] <Chipzzz> ikonia: k... lemme clean it up some...
[11:33] <ikonia> Chipzzz: 1.) remove all the nonsense zone data from the config file 2.) create a master entry for the zone 3.) create a db file for the zone containing the zone data, 4.) restart bind
[11:35] <computer_> Wow, just trying to make a unity launcher for Eclipse. Why has this been made sooooooooo difficult!
[11:36] <fAz4> is it means file descriptor 63 ?! /dev/fd/63
[11:37] <rumco9> hi
[11:37] <hithere> hi
[11:38] <takpar> Hi
[11:38] <lohness> so, skype cant start because libXss.so not found, so reinstall ia32-libs but that failes with /ia32-libs.postinst: 40: /usr/lib32/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders: not found
[11:38] <oCean> fAz4: there's not much detail in your question. Often file descriptor references the entries in /proc/<pid>/fd
[11:38] <bilegt> how to set screen brightness permanently?
[11:39] <lohness> so I checked in ia32-libs.postinst and it tries to execute /usr/lib32/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders /usr/lib32/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/*.so > /usr/lib32/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache || true # and that one also fails
[11:39] <fAz4> oCean: im just figuring out how  $file <(ps)  is working
[11:39] <lohness> if I try to execute the same line, but prefixed with /lib32/ld-linux.so.2 /usr/lib32/gdk-pixbuf,..... it works... wtf is this shit
[11:39] <ikonia> lohness: tone down the language please.
[11:42] <ranjan> Hi all how to disable normal users adding network interfaces in gnome desktop?
[11:43] <M0nt7> where can  get info on Ubuntu servers?
[11:43] <M0nt7> on irc
[11:43] <takpar>  http://www.irc.loxblog.com/
[11:43] <ikonia> M0nt7: in what respect ?
[11:43] <oCean> takpar: why are you posting that here?
[11:43] <rumco9> the ubuntu is a good program
[11:44] <takpar> oCean negah kon
[11:44] <takpar> very very fun
[11:44] <M0nt7> takpar: I mean irc channel for ubuntu-servers?
[11:44] <ikonia> M0nt7: #ubuntu-server is the official ubuntu server channel
[11:44] <oCean> takpar: don't post such links again, this is a support channel
[11:44] <takpar> oCean why?
[11:45] <takpar> linke download last version ubuntu ?
[11:45] <oCean> takpar: this channel is for Ubuntu support (technical issues) only
[11:45] <takpar> OK oCean
[11:45] <M0nt7> ikonia: thanks
[11:45] <ikonia> takpar: ubuntu.com
[11:45] <Chipzzz> ikonia: k... it looks much tidier now... but when i restart bind it fails... i forget which log contains the error, but it doesn't like 2 masters... here's the config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/859056/
[11:45] <takpar> my user ubuntu system
[11:45] <chown__> whats the difference between compiz and compiz fusion?
[11:46] <M0nt7> takpar: your link is misleading
[11:46] <takpar> OK
[11:46] <takpar> Be Right Back
[11:46] <ikonia> Chipzzz: where does the file named.conf.local  end
[11:47] <pvh_sa> hey there, anyone got experience with Intel 82599EB 10 Gb Ethernet card? I'm trying to use this with a Dell N743D aka Finisar FTLX8571D3BCL SFP+ module, but the ixgbe driver is saying SFP+ module not supported, even though that SFP+ module is mentioned in the driver docs as working. This is with Ubuntu 11.10.
[11:48] <M0nt7> where is the rsync.conf file in ubuntu?
[11:48] <Chipzzz> ikonia: ***** files are deliniated by these headings *****
[11:48] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok - just checking
[11:48] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok look in the syslog and paste me the error for starting bind
[11:48] <ikonia> M0nt7: you create it and you tell rsync where it is with rysnc -f
[11:49] <Belserusk> Hey guys. I want to sync 2 Ubuntu based distros. Are these all the packages I need? sudo apt-get install grsync openssh-client openssh-server rsync ssh
[11:49] <ikonia> Belserusk: what are the distros ?
[11:49] <M0nt7> ikonia: where should I create it?
[11:49] <ikonia> M0nt7: where you want
[11:50] <Chipzzz> ikonia: here's the relevant line: Feb 27 03:43:13 Server named[2190]: /etc/bind/named.conf.local:11: zone 'sirjeffx.com': missing 'masters' entry
[11:50] <M0nt7> ikonia: can you give a guide that shows a sample rsync config?
[11:50] <metabaron_> Belserusk: Seems to be correct.
[11:50] <ikonia> M0nt7: sorry no
[11:51] <Belserusk> metabaron_, Thank you. ^_~
[11:51] <M0nt7> ikonia: How should one set up apache and tomcat to work on the same machine?
[11:52] <M0nt7> anyone?
[11:52] <ikonia> M0nt7: look at https://help.ubuntu.com there is a server guide that explains how to setup apache
[11:52] <ikonia> Chipzzz: that looks an acceptable file
[11:53] <ikonia> Chipzzz: remove the transfer lines and restartt, see what it says
[11:53] <T_H_X> M0nt7: man rsyncd.conf
[11:54] <T_H_X> examples in there
[11:54] <Bhavesh> I am running a distribution upgrade for Ubuntu 12.04 Alpha 2, what will it upgrade to? te current daily release?
[11:54] <Bhavesh> or revert back to 11.10?
[11:54] <M0nt7> thanks ikonia T_H_X
[11:54] <stephanb> Bhavesh: the current daily release
[11:54] <Chipzzz> ikonia: that's why i assumed bind just wouldn't allow multiple masters... even named-checkzone and name-checkconf agreed that the files were good :)... anyway... i'll take out those lines & see what happens
[11:55] <stephanb> Bhavesh: except you change your "/etc/apt/sources.list" back to 11.10 after upgrdaing
[11:55] <ikonia> Chipzzz: how can it not allow multiple masters.....
[11:55] <stephanb> Bhavesh: on a productive system i would recommend neither
[11:55] <Bhavesh> stephanb: ok, and would it be right to include 11.10 sources to get chromium and other stuff still unavailable?
[11:55] <ikonia> Chipzzz: that would mean a DNS server could only host one domain
[11:55] <stephanb> Bhavesh: are you running 11.10 currently?
[11:55] <Bhavesh> nope
[11:56] <opalepatrick>  Anyone noticed a problem with mysql workbench dropping the connection in ubuntu 11.10. Entails going out and coming back in - irritating as it appears to be short live time
[11:56] <Belserusk> ikonia, Ubuntu 10.04 ~ Xubuntu 11.10
[11:56] <stephanb> Bhavesh: you could try it, but it's likely to break your system
[11:56] <opalepatrick> Just started to use it and moved the keep live preference to 30 mins but being ignored
[11:56] <Bhavesh> break it?
[11:56] <ikonia> Belserusk: so they should both be compatible with each other, no concerns there
[11:57] <Chipzzz> ikonia: it has lots of implications, but i couldn't figure it all out... that's why i'm here... lol... thank you for taking the time with me for this :-)
[11:57] <Belserusk> ikonia, I already do the sync but want to know the min amount of packages to sync Ubuntu 10.04 to a 3rd computer running LinuxMint 9 KDE
[11:57] <Belserusk> ikonia, cheers.
[11:57] <ikonia> Belserusk: I'd advise you not to sync mint
[11:57] <Belserusk> ikonia, are those the requisite packages? No more no less?
[11:57] <Belserusk> ikonia, Why not mint/
[11:57] <Belserusk> ?
[11:57] <ikonia> Belserusk: its a different distro
[11:57] <stephanb> Bhavesh: yeah, using different repos for different releases isn't a good ide
[11:58] <Bhavesh> stephanb: ok
[11:58] <Belserusk> ikonia, stephanb I must clarify this. I am only syncing personal files.
[11:58] <Bhavesh> ty
[11:58] <stephanb> Bhavesh: you could try it, but prepare for having lots of work to do after this
[11:58] <stephanb> Belserusk: sorry, i meant Bhavesh
[11:59] <Belserusk> stephanb, np
[11:59] <Chipzzz> ikonia: it failed with the same log entry and this time the console told me: rndc: connect failed: <IP_ADDRESS>#953: connection refused
[11:59] <ikonia> ahhhh
[11:59] <ikonia> Chipzzz: now we are getting somewhere
[11:59] <ikonia> Chipzzz: you need to define the interfaces named is running on too
[12:00] <Belserusk> ikonia, are those the requisite packages? No more no less?                sudo apt-get install grsync openssh-client openssh-server rsync ssh
[12:00] <ikonia> Belserusk: well it depends how you are synging
[12:00] <Belserusk> ikonia, via Grsync
[12:00] <ikonia> Belserusk: for example grsync is a gui, that will require X11 and a desktop and GTKs, so it will pull in a lot of other packages
[12:01] <Belserusk> ikonia, I see. So if I install Grsync - it will automatically install all other required apps>?
[12:01] <ikonia> yes
[12:01] <ikonia> Belserusk: why are you asking, you said you are already doing this and it's working
[12:02] <Belserusk> ikonia, Because I want to sync a 3rd laptop and only want to install the min amount of software on it.
[12:02] <ikonia> Belserusk: yes and as I've said I adviswe you not to do that
[12:02] <Mayazcherquoi> What the hell..? gnome-shell is not selectable from either lightdm or gdm
[12:02] <darrenlooby> When downloading mysql - where should I install it if I'm compiling it myself
[12:03] <ikonia> Belserusk: look at what the 3rd laptop is running a.) mint a different distro with different packages b.) KDE, so it won't be running any of the gnome/gtk stuff that Grsync depends on
[12:03] <stephanb> darrenlooby: a good place would be /opt
[12:03] <ikonia> darrenlooby: why are you compiling it yourself ?
[12:03] <ikonia> darrenlooby: what is wrong with the version provided by ubuntu ?
[12:04] <darrenlooby> ikonia, I have no idea... where I'm looking for tuts on installing mysql and making it secure - it talks about compiling it with certain options
[12:04] <Belserusk> ikonia, ok. Thanks. &_&
[12:04] <Chipzzz> ikonia: bind installs "named.conf.default-zones" by default, with entries for ".", "localhost", "127.in-addr.arpa", ... etc... an include in named.conf reads them
[12:04] <Belserusk> ikonia, ^_^
[12:04] <ikonia> darrenlooby: ok - so I very strongly advise you not to compile it yourself for no reason
[12:05] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok, that sort of makes sense, sounds like ubuntu is just layout it out a bit odd
[12:05] <stephanb> ikonia, darrenlooby: and certainly not if you don't know what you are doing
[12:05] <darrenlooby> ikonia, so, how what do I do if I want to do things like "--with-mysqld-user=mysql"
[12:06] <ikonia> darrenlooby: what ?
[12:06] <ikonia> what exactly are you trying to do ?
[12:06] <Chipzzz> ikonia: this is the first bind9 install for me, so i'm not very aware of the differences between distros yet...
[12:06] <darrenlooby> I'm trying to run mysql under a none root user
[12:06] <ikonia> darrenlooby: it already does do that
[12:06] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ubuntu appears to lay it out a bit different to the default layout and other distros
[12:06] <ikonia> darrenlooby: that's why it runs the mysqld-safe script
[12:06] <hcuongvn> When i use command "sudo apt-get install", then i type some first letters of the software packet and press TAB, it'll show me a list of software packets. But now, i can't use this way :( Help me!
[12:06] <darrenlooby> ikonia, oh, ok... n00b clearly
[12:07] <Anomie21> Is there a way to get folders to display size like files do?
[12:07] <Chipzzz> ikonia: it's all good...
[12:07] <ikonia> darrenlooby: if you don't know/want to do something, just ask rather than rushing in with exteme solutions
[12:07] <ikonia> darrenlooby: you would have compiled and made a mess of your system to make ubuntu do something....it's already doing
[12:08] <darrenlooby> ikonia, yea, good advice. Thank you :D
[12:08] <TopGear> Man... Having a Sandy Bridge laptop with Ubuntu isn't a that good combination, sadly enough.
[12:08] <stephanb> Anomie21: do you use nautilus? or do you want to do that on a commandline?
[12:09] <Chipzzz> ikonia: there's also a security feature involving a key that you have to generate before the server will talk to anything on the host... that may not be standard among distros since you haven't asked about it, so i thought i'd mention it...
[12:09] <airtonix> TopGear: oh ok, i guess my laptop of godly awesome is in contradiction then
[12:10] <Anomie21> stephanb: Yeah on nautilus
[12:10] <Chipzzz> ikonia: rndc has a command to generates the necessary keys & files, if memory serves
[12:10] <TopGear> airtronix: Than I am jelous. My battery only runs for less than 1 1/2 hour.
[12:10] <hcuongvn> When i use command "sudo apt-get install", then i type some first letters of the software packet and press TAB, it'll show me a list of software packets. But now, i can't use this way :( Help me!
[12:11] <stephanb> Anomie21: this currently is not possible, the only way to get the folders size is via "propertys"
[12:13] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys
[12:13] <Mayazcherquoi> gnome-shell isn't visible from the lightdm|gdm window manager selector thingy. What do I do? :-/
[12:14] <Bhavesh> Mayazcherquoi: Did you install it from ubuntu software centre?
[12:14] <Mayazcherquoi> Bhavesh: No
[12:14] <Bhavesh> Mayazcherquoi: then do so.
[12:14] <Mayazcherquoi> Bhavesh: 3.2 was working, but then I upgraded to 3.3
[12:15] <Mayazcherquoi> Now all that's coming up is "GNOME classic" :-/
[12:15] <stephanb> Mayazcherquoi: 3.3 is a version still in developement, you should't use it if you don't know that to do, if this turns out to be an error, file a bug at the gnome bugzilla
[12:15] <MalekQist> how i hack my phone ?
[12:16] <MalekQist> Anybody can help me ?
[12:16] <Chipzzz> ikonia: so anyway... do you have any suggestions about how i can approach this?
[12:16] <stephanb> MalekQist: 1. get an axe 2. hit your phone with it 3. your phone is now hacked
[12:16] <Bhavesh> its axed
[12:17] <MalekQist> where i can get it ?
[12:17] <coraxx> HELP! ...my rabbitvcs in nautilus has stopped working (I'm using Ubuntu 11.04) ...does anybody know why ? ...and how to fix ?
[12:17] <Gentoo64> MalekQist, why are you acting stupid
[12:17] <MalekQist> I really dnt know you idiot
[12:17] <oCean> MalekQist: stop the name calling
[12:18] <stephanb> MalekQist: you can get an axe from your local hardware store, they can provide you with further informations
[12:18] <oCean> MalekQist: also, this channel is for ubuntu support only
[12:18] <oCean> stephanb: stop that
[12:18] <stephanb> oCean: well, seems like it worked though
[12:19] <oCean> stephanb: if you're going to reply, make sure it's helpful. If someone asks offtopic questions, then explain that to them
[12:19] <Mayazcherquoi> Bhavesh: Okay, I installed it via the software centre (it said it wasn't installed, yet the package was..), however to no avail :(
[12:19] <stephanb> oCean: well normally i do, but this most certainly was trolling
[12:20] <stephanb> Mayazcherquoi: can you start gnome-shell manually from a shell?
[12:20] <oCean> stephanb: in that case, don't give it any comment at all
[12:20] <Mayazcherquoi> stephanb: Yes.
[12:20] <Somelauw> Okay, I updated to ubuntu 11.4 and now wmii doesn't work anymore.
[12:21] <stephanb> Somelauw: can you further explain what doesn't work anymore?
[12:21] <Mayazcherquoi> Omg, gnome-shell 3.3.x is heaps faster than 3.2 :p
[12:21] <stephanb> Mayazcherquoi: from where did you install gnome 3.3?
[12:21] <Somelauw> stephanb: Both alt+randomkey and mod4+randomkey don't respond to any command.
[12:22] <Mayazcherquoi> stephanb: First via package, and then via Software Centre.
[12:22] <Mayazcherquoi> Still doesn't show in lightdm or gdm though when logging in :-/
[12:25] <Mayazcherquoi> :(
[12:25] <Somelauw> I tried putting both MODEKEY=mod1 and MODKEY=mod4 in my config file, although these keys are automatically set when starting the wm.
[12:25] <Mayazcherquoi> I can't select my desktop either and none of the icons are visible :(
[12:26] <stephanb> Mayazcherquoi: well i guess thats the problem with developement versions
[12:26] <sentenza> http://xdcc.it/network/DarkSin/channel/lord_empire/bot/LD%7CEMP%7CDvDRiP%7CTRL%7C02.html
[12:26] <Mayazcherquoi> stephanb: You'd think it'd be visible in lightdm...
[12:26] <Mayazcherquoi> and/or gdm
[12:27] <stephanb> Mayazcherquoi: i would recommend to go back to 3.2, because as the gnome team says themselves: "GNOME 3.3.x is an unstable development series intended for testing and  hacking purposes. GNOME uses odd minor version numbers to indicate  development status"
[12:27] <sentenza> http://lord_empire-ld-emp-dvdrip-trl-02.xdcc.it/
[12:28] <stephanb> looks like someone won't get his warez from here :P
[12:29] <Mayazcherquoi> Okay, well, goodnight.
[12:29] <Mayazcherquoi> Just downgraded. :)
[12:29] <Mayazcherquoi> Sad though :( 3.3 was quite promising. :-/
[12:30] <stephanb> Mayazcherquoi: wait for 3.4... this would be the most sane thing to do
[12:30] <Mayazcherquoi> Ehh :P
[12:30] <Mayazcherquoi> I always involve myself with nightlies though :P
[12:30] <Mayazcherquoi> Anyways, thanks
[12:30] <stephanb> Mayazcherquoi: well, then you have to be prepared fore frequent breakage
[12:30] <Mayazcherquoi> Bye
[12:31] <stephanb> Somelauw: maybe try asking in #wmii i think you would get better support there
[12:32] <Somelauw> I already tried. It is on irc.oftc.net, but they didn't respond.
[12:33] <alelos> if i want to add an extra directory to my path, should i edit the /etc/profile or bashrc?
[12:33] <stephanb> Somelauw: the not so populated channels take some time to respond, but i'm sure you can get in touch with someone there
[12:34] <Bhavesh> how do I find the process with exclusive lock from ubuntu's System Monitor?
[12:34] <stephanb> alelos: if you want it just for your user, put it in bashrc, if you want it for all users, put it in /etc/profile
[12:35] <alelos> stephanb: thanks :)
[12:35] <slipttees> yo gus
[12:35] <slipttees> guys
[12:35] <Urdangarin> hola....
[12:35] <stephanb> alelos: np :)
[12:35] <slipttees> why banshee crash went plug iphone?
[12:36] <stephanb> slipttees: most certainly it's a bug in banshee, can you reproduce it?
[12:36] <Urdangarin> hi mens...
[12:36] <slipttees> stephanb: i can, but plug iphone banshee close
[12:36] <Urdangarin> i have your money... jejeje
[12:37] <slipttees> stephanb: alternativo to sync my musics?
[12:37] <oCean> !cn | Urdangarin
[12:37] <slipttees> alternative**
[12:37] <Urdangarin> shurmanos, venid a mi...
[12:37] <Myrtti> Urdangarin: this is Ubuntu support, do you have a support question?
[12:38] <stephanb> slipttees: gtkpod works for ipod, i'm not shure if it works for an iphone though
[12:38] <slipttees> humm... :(
[12:38] <slipttees> stephanb: why banshee still are on ubuntu
[12:38] <stephanb> slipttees: you have to ask the developers
[12:38] <lessless> hi! is there any gui for mencoder?
[12:39] <slipttees> stephanb: nope... i use last by ppa repo
[12:39] <slipttees> 2.2.
[12:39] <slipttees> 2.2.1
[12:39] <stephanb> lessless: i googled some, try it for yourself ;)
[12:40] <fidel> slipttees: tested clementine?
[12:40] <stephanb> slipttees: maybe thats the problem, have you tried the version wich is shipped with ubuntu?
[12:40] <lessless> stephanb, sure i'm googling now, but need very fast - out of time :)
[12:40] <fidel> worked in the past with my old ipod touch
[12:40] <slipttees> stephanb: version shipped work noting =/
[12:40] <slipttees> fidel: i don't know
[12:41] <lessless> stephanb, the quest is to hardcode subtitles to mp4 video
[12:41] <stephanb> slipttees: in the long run you should get a phone which doesn't lock you in and wont even let you copy music to it without some closed database
[12:41] <stephanb> lessless: never done that...
[12:42] <Reliant> ubuntu is failing to boot. I can get to the command prompt with the recovery option. Where do I go to see a log of where the boot failed the first time?
[12:42] <ikonia> Chipzzz: sorry, was justaway at a meeting
[12:46] <neo_> Hi all
[12:46] <frif> people, deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner are working?
[12:49] <Reliant> looks like I've found the cause of why I'm not getting a boot: I installed the pae kernel, and now X is giving me an error about no nvidia kernel driver
[12:49] <nyancattt> the upgrade feature is useless in ubuntu
[12:50] <nyancattt> it show i need 5 days to download the entire upgrade
[12:50] <jrib> nyancattt: if it's not because of a slow internet connection, then try a local mirror
[12:50] <Chipzzz> ikonia: oh, don't worry about it... really, you've helped a great deal just by confirming that more than one master should be permissible in the conf... i'll mess with it some more rather than take your time with it
[12:50] <omid8bimo> how can i configure l2tp in ubuntu?
[12:50] <Chipzzz> ikonia: ... i'm learning a great deal as i do this anyway :-)
[12:52] <slipttees> stephanb: http://pastebin.com/tjzcd2a0
[12:52] <slipttees> are work... disable other plugins here :D
[12:54] <patrunjel> Hi. How can I find out what's the path to my initrd and kernel? (I wanna get arch next to ubuntu and dual-boot)
[12:55] <omid8bimo> what is the best l2tp client for ubuntu?
[12:55] <quup> hi, what's the command to start a desktop session? gnome-session doesn't seem like it gets everything
[12:56] <omid8bimo> what is the best l2tp client for ubuntu?
[12:56] <pokuy> what is the best l2tp?
[12:59] <ikonia> Chipzzz: shout if you need ehlp
[12:59] <ikonia> help
[13:01] <sx2020> How can I print output fromm a python script to a terminal, but allow me to hit "next" through the data rather than it all printing out and leaving me unable to read the top?
[13:01] <jrib> sx2020: #python
[13:02] <Somelauw> sx2020: python script | more
[13:02] <Somelauw> sx2020: python script | less
[13:02] <sx2020> beautiful, thanks @jsrib, @Somelauw
[13:03] <sx2020> it was surprisingly difficult to come up with the right keywords for that on google
[13:05] <Mayazcherquoi> Okay guys, this is ridiculous. I've reverted back to gnome-shell-3.2, and it still refuses to show in lightdm..
[13:05] <Mayazcherquoi> All I get are two variants of gnome-classic
[13:06] <tejaswidp> I executed the virus "KHATRA.exe" on ubuntu using wine. Surprisingly it worked. Now wheneven I kill the process using its pid , it keeps respawing! What should I do?
[13:06] <Mayazcherquoi> Guys?
[13:07] <Carl_1> Hi, linux newb here. I'm on a linux server and I need to make a new user account which I've done with the useradd and passwd commands, however when I login to the server it says authentication failed
[13:07] <undeclaredx> wrong password? lol
[13:07] <Carl_1> lol
[13:07] <undeclaredx> are you sure it's the right password?
[13:07] <Carl_1> I am
[13:07] <undeclaredx> okay
[13:07] <Carl_1> I've cahgned it to simple things like 123 and test
[13:07] <mosno> Carl_1, perhaps it is using a different auth method/db
[13:07] <Carl_1> and it still does it
[13:07] <undeclaredx> hmm
[13:07] <ikonia> Carl_1: what linux version is it ?
[13:08] <Carl_1> what comamnd do I put in to find linux version?
[13:08] <Carl_1> *command
[13:08] <Mayazcherquoi> :'(
[13:08] <ikonia> Carl_1: uname -a will do
[13:08] <patrunjel> tejaswidp, i'm not a ubuntu guru, so don't trust me, but you should try googleing some info on the virus / how it works / what files it modifies, and either restore the stuff manually, or (if you're lucky), get a script that does it for you
[13:09] <Carl_1> ikonia: doesn't look helpful but... GNU/Linux
[13:09] <Rennegate> tejaswidp use -9 ?
[13:09] <ikonia> Carl_1: it shows more than that, please show the whole line
[13:09] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys, how can I get gnome-shell to show up in lightdm and gdm upon logging in and set it as the default window manager to use? :S
[13:09] <Carl_1> ikonia: Linux test.dh.bytemark.co.uk 2.6.20-16-server #2 SMP Sun Sep 23 18:36:55 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:10] <RedViper> Which Ubuntu is better, more reliable and Less buggy? Ubuntu 10.04 - 10.10 - 11.04 - 11.10 0r the new 12.04? ( http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/timeline/dade00253b5f51e91b13029c3a26ffc0.png ) I want to install my new laptop and I want to know the most prudent. And it must have Long Term Support.
[13:10] <mosno> Mayazcherquoi, it automatically shows up after install. just select it and the dm remembers
[13:10] <jrib> RedViper: 10.04 is the latest LTS release
[13:10] <ikonia> Carl_1: that looks like ubuntu 7.04
[13:10] <ikonia> Carl_1: can you confirm that with the command "lsb_release -a"
[13:10] <Carl_1> ikonia: uname on its own just says "Linux" too
[13:10] <ikonia> Carl_1: does it say "7.04"
[13:10] <tejaswidp> Rennegate I will try that. Thank you
[13:10] <Carl_1> 8.04
[13:10] <ikonia> ooh 8.04
[13:10] <jrib> RedViper: why do you want LTS though?
[13:10] <nothingspecial> rp
[13:10] <tejaswidp> But Why doesn't linux recognize that something is wrong?
[13:11] <tejaswidp> It keeps creating other files
[13:11] <Carl_1> ikonia:  8.04.4 LTS
[13:11] <ikonia> Carl_1: can you show me the"exact" useradd command you  used to create the user
[13:11] <RedViper> jrib: Because I am not to fond of settingup my system every 6 months
[13:11] <Carl_1> ikonia: first I tried "useradd carl" followed by "passwd carl"
[13:11] <tejaswidp> So is it advisable to install an anti virus on ubuntu?
[13:12] <ikonia> Carl_1: ok - stop
[13:12] <patrunjel> Hi. How can I find out what's the path to my initrd and kernel? (I wanna get arch next to ubuntu and dual-boot)
[13:12] <jrib> RedViper: you can upgrade between releases; no need to setup again
[13:12] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey mosno
[13:12] <ikonia> Carl_1: you can't just do that command
[13:12] <Mayazcherquoi> Unfortunately it doesn't work :(
[13:12] <Mayazcherquoi> It's not there.
[13:12] <Carl_1> ikonia: then I tried "sudo useradd -d /home/carl -m carl"
[13:12] <Carl_1> ikonia: what should I do?
[13:12] <ikonia> Carl_1: please run the following command
[13:12] <mosno> Mayazcherquoi, works for me on 11.10 32-bit
[13:12] <ikonia> Carl_1: "sudo userdel -r carl"
[13:12] <Carl_1> ikonia: thanks for this btw, most appreciated
[13:12] <ikonia> Carl_1: that will delete the user, please tell me when you have done that
[13:13] <Carl_1> ikonia: done
[13:13] <RedViper> jrib: I heard Upgrading was not as good as a new install. True?
[13:13] <jrib> RedViper: I'd recommend you install 11.10 and then upgrade to 12.04 when it is released in april
[13:13] <jrib> RedViper: good in what way?
[13:13] <Guest68950> mosno, I am using 11.10 x86, and it was working prior to trying to upgrade to 3.3. But after reverting back to 3.2 for the same problem, it still doesn't show
[13:13] <mosno> 3.3???
[13:13] <ikonia> Carl_1: sudo useradd -g users -s /bin/bash -d /home/carl -m carl
[13:14] <mosno> that's a dev version, dude
[13:14] <RedViper> jrib: As in it's different or more buggy
[13:14] <Guest68950> Well yeah...
[13:14] <jrib> RedViper: no, that's not true at all
[13:14] <RedViper> jrib: Would you mind if I PM you or do you want me to stay here?
[13:15] <Carl_1> ikonia: ok done that
[13:15] <jrib> RedViper: here is better
[13:15] <ikonia> Carl_1: now try to login
[13:15] <Carl_1> ikonia:  shall I set a passwd first?
[13:15] <ikonia> Carl_1: yes, that would be good
[13:15] <Carl_1> :)
[13:16] <RedViper> jrib: I am not a fan of unity, in fact I despise it. I use compiz to customise my desktop and Unity does not support it> your opinion?
[13:17] <crizzy> unity is the only reason why i bothered to try linux again after years of win+mac ;)
[13:17] <jrib> RedViper: you can install whatever window manager/desktop environment you want and select it at the login screen
[13:17] <jrib> !nounity | RedViper
[13:17] <davide87> the last kde for debian?
[13:18] <jrib> RedViper: I'd suggest something like xfce if you want a more traditional gnome-2ish environment
[13:18] <ikonia> davide87: your in ubuntu
[13:18] <davide87> sorry
[13:18] <FedUp1> FOR F**KS SAKE UBUNTU
[13:18] <crizzy> FedUp1: what's the prob
[13:18] <FedUp1> crizzy, I am Mayazcherquoi from before.
[13:18] <FedUp1> gnome-shell isn't showing in lightdm OR gdm
[13:19] <FedUp1> It's not there, completely disappeared.
[13:19] <crizzy> did you install gnome-shell package?
[13:19] <FedUp1> Yes
[13:19] <FedUp1> And yes, I can run it from terminal..
[13:19] <crizzy> well.. try installing that gnome-session package back now after you've removedu nity
[13:19] <fidel> gnome-shell is never listed as Gnome-Shell afaik
[13:19] <fidel> it should be listed as Gnome
[13:19] <fidel> in case that helps ;)
[13:19] <crizzy> yes
[13:19] <Carl_1> ikonia: it still says Access Denied
[13:19] <RedViper> jrib: I am undecided now - 10.04 or 11.10?
[13:19] <FedUp1> crizzy, Okay, sec.
[13:20] <quup> how do I start a gnome/unity session in xephyr on ubuntu 11.10?
[13:20] <crizzy> FedUp1: and like said, it shows up as 'Gnome' in login manager, not "gnome shell"
[13:20] <FedUp1> crizzy, :'(
[13:20] <quup> just want to know what commands are ran right after login really
[13:20] <FedUp1> it works now :'(
[13:20] <jrib> RedViper: why don't you try 11.10 and if it doesn't work out, you can always just install 10.04 over it.  Installs take like 15 minutes at most
[13:20] <ikonia> Carl_1: how are you trying to login ?
[13:20] <FedUp1> Why didnt I think of that? Gah! Too tired I guess :-/
[13:20] <Carl_1> ssh
[13:20] <fidel> quup: you select the DE in your login-manager
[13:20] <FedUp1> Thanks crizzy
[13:20] <fidel> quup: so - i.e. in gdm / lightdm or similar
[13:20] <FedUp1> It's been on me for hours :'(
[13:20] <Carl_1> ikonia: ssh, I have one username already set up (by someone else obviously)
[13:21] <ikonia> Carl_1: can you please do the following command "su - carl"
[13:21] <quup> fidel: yea, but I don't have a monitor, so just want to start the whole session directly in xephyr so I can use it over ssh
[13:21] <Carl_1> ok
[13:21] <ikonia> Carl_1: it will ask you for your password, enter your password
[13:21] <ikonia> Carl_1: does that work ?
[13:21] <quup> fidel: used to be just gnome-session in previous ubuntu versions, but now that doesn't give me a menu
[13:21] <quup> just a background
[13:21] <P1rate> Hello
[13:22] <Carl_1> ikonia:  which password should it be, carls password or the user I'm currently logged in as?
[13:22] <RedViper> jrib: The problem is I need to get my system up and running. I have 10.04 on CD and I need to download 11.10. I see your an Ubuntu fan through and through
[13:22] <ikonia> Carl_1: carls password
[13:22] <Carl_1> ikonia:  Authentication failure
[13:22] <Carl_1> sorry, su: Autentication failure
[13:23] <P1rate> RedViper: so whats the problem?
[13:23] <ikonia> Carl_1: ok - so either a.) you have not set the password correclty b.) you have authentication setup to look at another method.
[13:23] <ikonia> Carl_1: how did you set the password
[13:23] <Carl_1> ikonia: I think it must be the latter
[13:23] <Carl_1> ikonia: I'm in an unfortunate situation here, this has been passed on to me with no documentation
[13:23] <ikonia> Carl_1: how did you set the password
[13:23] <jrib> RedViper: ok install 10.04 then :)  See with 10.04 you'll need to upgrade to 12.04 before april of 2013.  With 11.10, you'll need to upgrade to 12.04 before april 2013 as well
[13:23] <Carl_1> ikonia: passwd carl, followed by a prompt for a password which shows no characters, entered twice
[13:24] <ikonia> Carl_1: "sudo passwd carl"
[13:24] <Carl_1> ikonia: yes
[13:24] <Carl_1> as passwd carl doesn't do it
[13:24] <P1rate> jrib: it is not necessary to update tp 12.04
[13:24] <ikonia> Carl_1: please do "sudo -i"
[13:24] <ikonia> Carl_1: once you have a root shell please do "su - carl"
[13:24] <ikonia> Carl_1: this should give you a root shell
[13:24] <ikonia> Carl_1: what happens
[13:24] <P1rate> from ubuntu i still like and have 10.10
[13:24] <slipttees> libgpod doen't support IOS :(
[13:24] <Carl_1> ikonia: I'm now logged in as root
[13:24] <jrib> P1rate: yes it is :/
[13:25] <jrib> P1rate: or fresh upgrade I guess...
[13:25] <ikonia> Carl_1: now "su - carl"
[13:25] <jrib> s/upgrade/install
[13:25] <Carl_1> ikonia:  bash: arl: command not found
[13:25] <ikonia> Carl_1: su - carl
[13:25] <ikonia> Carl_1: note the spaces
[13:25] <Guest65463> armandeg.blogspot.com
[13:25] <Carl_1> ikonia: sorry
[13:25] <Carl_1> ikonia:  I'm now logged in as carl
[13:25] <ikonia> Guest65463: please don't spam
[13:25] <Chipzzz> ikonia: got it working... thanks, bud... i owe you one (or perhaps many :-) )
[13:25] <ikonia> Carl_1: ok - so we know the account is setup fine
[13:26] <ikonia> ubuntu-bro-alive: please stop changing nicknames
[13:26] <ubuntu-bro-alive> sorry
[13:26] <ikonia> Chipzzz: well done, happy to help
[13:26] <ikonia> Carl_1: so the issue is around authentication and where that is setup to look
[13:26] <RedViper> P1rate: I want to know which Ubuntu has less probelms, firmer operating system and does not get affected by updates - 10.04 or 11.10?
[13:26] <ikonia> RedViper: they are all the same
[13:26] <Carl_1> ikonia: must be, can you name some popular auth methods to look for?
[13:26] <ikonia> RedViper: there isn't one "more/less" stable
[13:27] <ikonia> Carl_1: look in the pam configus
[13:27] <ikonia> configs
[13:27] <Guest65463> its not spam, just my blog, intresting stuffs! I a newby and I know I asked here for Questions and stuff, you guys couldnt answer my questions, so i thought once i get it solved i'll come post it here, Unattended USB network install, apt-mirror and so forth: armandeg.blogspot.com
[13:27] <ikonia> Guest65463: we still don't need to see you post your/advertise your blog, thanks.
[13:29] <RedViper> ikonia: What is the difference between 10.10 and 10.04?
[13:29] <Guest65463> there is no advertisements on it, its for plain knowledge, but seeing that you very clever.... you prob dont need it, but other ppl might
[13:29] <ikonia> RedViper: version upgrades
[13:29] <P1rate> RedViper: six digits : P
[13:29] <ikonia> Guest65463: sorry, I'll try again, "please don't post your blog URL here"
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> RedViper  10.04 is LTS, 10.10 is not
[13:29] <ikonia> RedViper: the core "OS" is still ubuntu,
[13:29] <Carl_1> ikonia: is that in etc?
[13:30] <ikonia> RedViper: why don't you just try some, see what you like
[13:30] <sun_> hi
[13:30] <ikonia> Carl_1: /etc/pam.d I believe on ubuntu
[13:30] <Guest26582> i lose route to dropbox what i can do???
[13:31] <RedViper> ikonia: Well I am thinking of 10.04 - I am just concerned if it will be abit old. It will still do updates until 2013?
[13:31] <ikonia> RedViper: you won't get "new" package versions, just maintainence of the existing packages
[13:31] <kenta> hi
[13:31] <Carl_1> ikonia: is it ok to do PM or should I keep this here?
[13:31] <the_p> hi. i have a problem with the circumflex sign. i can typ it and then a character and get for example 'ô', but i can not write just the circumflex. Can anybody help me with this?
[13:31] <ikonia> Carl_1: don't need to pm me - I'm not going through your pam configs for you
[13:32] <kenta> i will change my nickname
[13:32] <Carl_1> ikonia: I didn't mean that, I just meant as there is a lot of scrolling text here
[13:32] <Carl_1> ikonia: I take it it would be the common-auth file
[13:32] <RedViper>
[13:32] <RedViper> ikonia: so is that good or bad? If I go with 10.04 will the current packages update?
[13:33] <ikonia> Carl_1: yes, ssh uses common-auth, and as we know su is also failing
[13:33] <ikonia> RedViper: the curret packages will not update to new versions, no
[13:33] <RedViper>
[13:33] <RedViper> ikonia: So what do the updates do?
[13:33] <Carl_1> ikonia:
[13:33] <Carl_1> auth    requisite       pam_unix.so nullok_secure
[13:33] <Carl_1> auth    optional        pam_smbpass.so migrate missingok
[13:33] <ikonia> Carl_1: I just said I'm not going through your pam configs
[13:34] <ikonia> RedViper: maintain the current packages
[13:35] <RedViper> ikonia: Has 10.10 stopped updating packages?
[13:35] <Carl_1> ikonia: ok no prob, thanks for the help anyway
[13:35] <ikonia> RedViper: not yet, but almost
[13:35] <ikonia> RedViper: couple of months left, 18months after release.
[13:35] <Guest26582> after hibernation my system froz what do???
[13:36] <RedViper>
[13:36] <RedViper> ikonia: Ok so what do I choose?Out of the two?
[13:36] <ikonia> RedViper: it's up to YOU !!!!
[13:36] <ikonia> RedViper: try them
[13:36] <ikonia> see what YOU like
[13:37] <Iulia> Guest26582 wich version of Ubuntu you have? Happened before, happens after an upgrade/update?
[13:37] <Rewt`> so is there a way for Ubuntu to remember all my window positions?
[13:38] <RedViper> ikonia: Ok last question - Is there anyhting wrong with having an operating without Updates? And does 10.04 come with gnome 2?
[13:39] <ikonia> RedViper: depends if you want the software to conitnue to be maintained, have security and bug fixes etc
[13:39] <ikonia> RedViper: the sooner you forget gnome 2 - the better, it's dead, no-one is using it any more, no-one is developing it/maintaining it any more
[13:40] <nyles> i have a question, if my mobo's setup is this; video & sound card are onboard.. my monitor has built in speakers, can i get a problem with my sound card? like that of hdmi problems?
[13:40] <Rewt`> it doesn't take much to update ubuntu.
[13:40] <RedViper>
[13:40] <RedViper> ikonia: Whats the substitute for the gnome docklet?
[13:40] <ikonia> RedViper: no idea,
[13:41] <crizzy> RedViper: https://extensions.gnome.org/
[13:43] <scotty^> Any Unity2D gurus here?
[13:44] <crizzy> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/6/applications-menu/ + https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/25/window-list/ ... there's your old gnome2 style for gnome-shell =P
[13:44] <RedViper>
[13:44] <RedViper> ikonia: Ok I have decided to go with 10.04. Will the bugs that have appiared in packages be fix. Will the be upgraded to the last upgrade?
[13:44] <ikonia> RedViper: 1.) please stop doing armandeg.blogspot.com
[13:44] <ikonia> oops
[13:44] <ikonia> sorry
[13:44] <ikonia> RedViper: please stop doing 13:44 < RedViper> I
[13:44] <ikonia> before you type a line
[13:45] <ikonia> RedViper: just speak on one line.
[13:45] <ikonia> RedViper: 2.) nothing will be "upgraded"
[13:45] <ikonia> RedViper: 3.) updates will happen as long as the release it not EOL (end of life)
[13:46] <doggywho> hi
[13:46] <RedViper> ikonia: And bugs that appear will be fixed? Sorry about adding 13:44?
[13:47] <ikonia> RedViper: bugs will be fixed if the release is supported and a fix is available
[13:47] <mirko8080> !list
[13:47] <ikonia> mirko8080: do you speak English ?
[13:48] <konza> Hi all, I am a flex developer  and now I am using ubuntu. Is there any way to develop flex application in linux? is there any open source IDE? please help
[13:48] <ikonia> konza: what do you normally develop flex in
[13:49] <RedViper> ikonia:But I mean in 10.04s case? Will the updates fix the bugs
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> RedViper  yes, if a bigfix is available
[13:49] <ikonia> RedViper: if the distro is in support, and there is a fix for the version of the software you are using, it will be fixed
[13:49] <crizzy> there was flex builder for linux but adobe discontinued it
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> bugfix*
[13:49] <nyles> is the help.ubuntu.com site down? or is it just me?
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> it's down
[13:50] <fidel> nyles: down here too
[13:50] <nyles> MonkeyDust, fidel thanks...
[13:50] <konza> crizzy, yeah it was flex builder 3. I need flex 4. Is there any eclipse plugin?
[13:50] <RedViper>
[13:51] <crizzy> konza: i mostly only code c so no idea :-)
[13:51] <RedViper> MonkeyDust: 	Thanks for the Help, let me get to it then.
[13:51] <RedViper> ikonia: Thanks for the Help, let me get to it then.
[13:51] <konza> ikonia, Applications using charts
[13:51] <EpicGeekZ> good morning =)
[13:51] <Silverlion> EpicGeekZ: good afternoon
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> otheer timezone here :)
[13:52] <ikonia> konza: sorry, I meant what toold
[13:52] <ikonia> tools
[13:52] <Silverlion> nyles: am able to open the page
[13:52] <konza> ikonia, I use flash builder. But i was using windows at that time
[13:52] <Silverlion> but needs a very long time to load
[13:53] <nyles> Silverlion, here too, its up already i guess..
[13:53] <schueler26> ffff
[13:53] <loplop> i
[13:53] <loplop> http://www.klassenarbeiten.de/klassenarbeiten/klasse9/mathematik/klassenarbeit811_hauptschulabschlussmathematik.htm
[13:53] <nyles> Silverlion, thanks for informing :)
[13:54] <Silverlion> loplop what is this link for?
[13:54] <sattu94> whois satyanash
[13:55] <scotty^> woops :)
[13:57] <hex20dec> Question, when you see a command somewhere, say "useradd -m" and you want to know what the -m does, how would I find out without looking for it online?
[13:57] <Pici> hex20dec: man useradd
[13:57] <compdoc> useradd --help
[13:58] <hex20dec> I know that, but does everyone scroll does until they find the -m parameter?
[13:58] <hex20dec> Or is there a faster option?
[13:58] <Pici> hex20dec: press / to search and type -m
[13:58] <loplop> http://www.klassenarbeiten.de/klassenarbeiten/klasse7/mathematik/klassenarbeit853_prozentrechnen.htm
[13:58] <loplop> http://www.klassenarbeiten.de/klassenarbeiten/klasse7/mathematik/klassenarbeit853_prozentrechnen.htm
[13:58] <hex20dec> Okay, so I guess I'm doing it correct, thank you pici.
[13:58] <nyles> ok, im trying this code; options snd-sb16 isapnp=0 port=0x220 irq=5 dma8=1 dma16=5 mpu_port=0x330.. where i can find that port, mpu-port, dma8 and dma 16? they are not in my bios..
[13:59] <llutz_> hex20dec: man useradd |less -p -m
[13:59] <hex20dec> llutz_, thanks.
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> hex20dec  or use the slash => man uderadd and then /-m to search
[14:00] <Guest26582> who know? wtf chrome don't work over https
[14:01] <Guest26582> only http
[14:03] <hex20dec> To perform a search in man you do /word and to repeat the search?
[14:03] <Pici> hex20dec: press n
[14:04] <hex20dec> Awesome, Pici.
[14:04] <llutz_> hex20dec: "man less" for more options. less is mostly used as pager to read man-pages
[14:04] <riveryk> good morning, my problem is that my ps has 2048 mb of ram always worked and at any moment I get only 763 I have used, the BIOS tells me I have the 2048 but all I get is using 763 mb ... . that can be or I can do???
[14:06] <fidel> riveryk: run memtest
[14:06] <fidel> and check if all ram-dimms are connected properly - sometimes its just about re-connecting them
[14:06] <nyles> how can i see my other partition?
[14:06] <fidel> nyles: dik utility
[14:07] <fidel> *disk*
[14:07]  * sattu94 laughs out loud..
[14:08] <riveryk> fidel, command "run mem"?
[14:08] <compdoc> nyles, gparted is nice
[14:08] <nyles> fidel, where i can find it?
[14:08] <fidel> nyles: in your app menu?
[14:09] <scotty^> Any Unity2D gurus here?
[14:09] <fidel> scotty^: just ask
[14:10] <nyles> compdoc, fidel i don't see gparted here..
[14:10] <riveryk> fidel, command for memtest??
[14:10] <fidel> nyles: disk utility is called: palimpsest in cli
[14:11] <fidel> riveryk: google for memtest
[14:11] <compdoc> nyles, right - its included in the live cd, but you have to install it otherwise. takes a few seconds, and its the best
[14:12] <pitto_> I just want to say to everybody that ubuntu for android is simply outstanding: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pZUCKt0RKc&feature=g-logo&context=G2fdacdbFOAAAAAAACAA
[14:12] <pitto_> see the video and let excitement explode :D
[14:12] <nyles> fidel, what is cli?
[14:12] <pitto_> command line, nyles :)
[14:12] <pitto_> cli = command line
[14:13] <nyles> pitto_, oh sorry lol.. just a noob xD
[14:13] <oCean> fidel: please don't tell others "to google"
[14:13] <fidel> oCean: please help him then instead ;)
[14:13] <pitto_> we're all noobs for something  :)
[14:13] <fidel> i told him the needed keyword as first step
[14:13] <fidel> ;)
[14:14] <hcuongvn> Hey guys, I can't use TAB key to auto complete in command "sudo apt-get install package"
[14:14] <oCean> fidel: yes, but that's not acceptable by channel policy. If you don't know the correct answer, say so, or don't respond to the question
[14:14] <Napalm> hi people, ive searched around and I can find any details on what im trying to do.. i need to upgrade my apache2 and bind packages, but the oneiric package list doesnt contain the latest version i require.. the precise package list does
[14:14] <Napalm> is it possible to install precise packages in oneiric?
[14:14] <Napalm> ubuntu server
[14:14] <fidel> oCean: thanks for the info - gonna mute myself then
[14:15] <scotty^> A couple of users with old graphics hardware (ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]) have lost desktop acceleration after upgrading from Lucid to Oneiric and from Natty to Oneiric.  In at least one case the card is still being used for direct rendering.  I presume they have fallen back to Unity 2D, but why is it so slow?  What has failed?  XRender
[14:15] <Amin0v> hello
[14:15] <scotty^> ?
[14:15] <scotty^> Or EXA/UXA?
[14:15] <Silverlion> Amin0v: Sup?
[14:15] <scotty^> How to tell?
[14:15] <scotty^> See bug #/883421
[14:15] <scotty^> oops
[14:15] <Amin0v> I have created an svn repository in my webserver direretory : /home/user
[14:16] <scotty^> See bug #883421
[14:16] <Amin0v> I want that people check out the project from /home/user/web directory
[14:16] <Amin0v> how can I acheive ?
[14:18] <scotty^> Any Unity2D gurus here?  Need help.
[14:18] <scotty^> A couple of users with old graphics hardware (ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]) have lost desktop acceleration after upgrading from Lucid to Oneiric and from Natty to Oneiric.  In at least one case the card is still being used for direct rendering.  I presume they have fallen back to Unity 2D, but why is it so slow?  What has failed?  XRender?
[14:18] <scotty^> Or EXA/UXA?
[14:18] <oCean> scotty^: no need to repeat so soon
[14:18] <scotty^> How to tell?
[14:18] <antismap> hello, what is the command to access unity's systemsettings from the console ?
[14:18] <scotty^> See bug #883421
[14:18] <scotty^> ocean: Sorry
[14:20] <scotty^> It makes me wonder....
[14:20] <_Marcus> Hi
[14:22] <scotty^> Anyone?  Bueller?
[14:24] <chown_> what is the compiz fusion?
[14:25] <Amin0v> the answe is svn import
[14:25] <Amin0v>  /s/answe/answer
[14:26] <Gitzo> is compiz running in services when you install ubuntu 11.10?
[14:27] <braiam> Gitzo, no
[14:29] <chown_> someone told me there was more animations on compiz
[14:29] <chown_> where can i find if its actually true
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> more animations to disable, you mean?
[14:30] <chown_> to choose
[14:30] <satyanash> Hi, what is the default install location for applications I install through apt ?
[14:30] <chown_> by animations i mean effects
[14:30] <ubuntu-guy-died> Dunno what the hell is goin' on the 11.10 sucks
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> satyanash  /urs/bin
[14:30] <_Marcus> usr*
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> idd :)
[14:31] <satyanash> MonkeyDust, I need the Data directory.. not the binary location.
[14:31] <who_am_i_68> hi
[14:31] <_Marcus> satyanash: Like where the application stores it's configuration files?
[14:31] <satyanash> MonkeyDust, I want to unzip a zip file to it's data directory so as to patch it.
[14:32] <ubuntu-guy-died> hi who_am_i_68 !!!
[14:32] <_Marcus> Hello who_am_i_68.
[14:32] <satyanash> I am upgrading openarena to 0.8.8
[14:32] <Pici> satyanash: There is not one location where packages install their files to.  /etc/ is often used for system-wide configuration files, but thats not always the case for every package.
[14:32] <satyanash> I need to unzip the incremental patch into its data directory..
[14:33] <ubuntu-guy-died> omg, http://www.linux-magazine.com/content/view/full/51293
[14:33] <Pici> satyanash: dpkg -L packagename  will show you where it installed its files to.
[14:34] <_Marcus> satyanash: The site says that the folder for it is "~/.openarena/"
[14:34] <Pici> ubuntu-guy-died: This channel is for support, not FUD or rumors.
[14:34] <who_am_i_68> I am using UBuntu 11.10. Adobe flash use CPU like crazy. But the desktop is very very cool. I want to install from additional drivers my ATI's driver. But there is 2 same drivers on the list. Which one should I install ? (the difference of two drivers is just this string : "post-release updates" )
[14:34] <oCean> ubuntu-guy-died: why are you posting that link here?
[14:34] <ubuntu-guy-died> OK i am sorry
[14:34] <ubuntu-guy-died> guys
[14:34] <_Marcus> who_am_i_68: Which one looks newer? I guess install the one that is the newest, but not Beta.
[14:35] <oCean> ubuntu-guy-died: if you want a conversation/chat, use #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:35] <satyanash> _Marcus, oh, right! Haha.. It was in my home all along.. :)
[14:35] <ubuntu-guy-died> oCean, Actually i am talking about Ubuntu ....
[14:35] <who_am_i_68> _Marcus looks newest? how to understand this? both of them are same (details, name...)
[14:35] <oCean> ubuntu-guy-died: of course, but this channel is for technical support issues. You are very welcome to continue in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:35] <_Marcus> who_am_i_68: Anything different between the two?
[14:36] <who_am_i_68> _Marcus just the name of one has also this string _Marcus
[14:36] <_Marcus> who_am_i_68: Besides being on seperate lines
[14:36] <_Marcus> who_am_i_68: What string does it have?
[14:36] <who_am_i_68> _Marcus just the name of one has also this string "post-release updates"
[14:37] <_Marcus> who_am_i_68: I think you should get the one that says "post-release updates".
[14:37] <who_am_i_68> _Marcus ok. also can you tell me what that string means?
[14:38] <_Marcus> who_am_i_68: It means it's an update that is released after the product was released(the product in this case is the driver). In other words, it's a patch for the driver.
[14:39] <who_am_i_68> _Marcus ok. and Adoıbe flash will use CPU like crazy after the installation of driver?
[14:41] <_Marcus> who_am_i_68: If ATI put something that messes with Adobe Flash in their drivers, then yes, the CPU usage may increase, but that is very unlikely.
[14:42] <who_am_i_68> _Marcus very bad. flash makes me crazy even I use adblock extension... Anyway Thank you for your interest! :)
[14:43] <DrDamnit> My 10.04.04 LTS server keeps forgetting its static IP address and grabbing one from DHCP. How do I prevent this?
[14:46] <hex20dec> How would you recommend to learn the Linux file system directories, where everything is / needs to be, etc?
[14:46] <bazhang> !fhs | hex20dec
[14:47] <hex20dec> Thank you both, bazhang and ubottu.
[14:52] <JulinBM> Ademan: hi, do you help me?
[14:53] <bazhang> JulinBM, whats the issue, please tell the channel
[14:54] <JulinBM> is just a information about ubuntu
[14:54] <bazhang> !manual | JulinBM perhaps this will help, have a read
[14:55] <JulinBM> bazhang: is to use ubuntu to open all types of files used in windows?
[14:55] <bazhang> JulinBM, please give an example
[14:56] <lol123> Whats up
[14:56] <JulinBM> bazhang: well... M. Office documents
[14:56] <bazhang> JulinBM, libreoffice can do that
[14:56] <bazhang> JulinBM, you should have a look at the ubuntu manual
[14:57] <JulinBM> bazhang: I want to uninstall windows and only use ubuntu
[14:57] <as001> hi I activated wrong option in compiz and now when I log in I have no panels and top of windows are missing... How can i fix it
[14:57] <JulinBM> bazhang: thanks
[14:57] <lol123> Ubuntu is cool
[14:57] <as001> previos I had everything on left side and did not have top and bottom panels. I would like to switch back to it.
[14:57] <JulinBM> bazhang: I think I only use ubuntu without problems right?
[14:57] <freegis> join #geo-spatial.org
[14:58] <bazhang> as001, using the compizconfig-settings-manager? sounds like a window decoration issue
[14:58] <freegis> sorry
[14:58] <freegis> wrong commnad
[14:59] <as001> I tried that but can not force it to activate on startup
[14:59] <bazhang> as001, is this 11.10? unity?
[14:59] <as001> I agreed to remove Desktop Wall and that was the problem
[15:00] <as001> I am not sure this is kernel 2.6.38-13-generic-pae
[15:00] <bazhang> as001, so go into ccsm and re-enable it?
[15:00] <bazhang> as001, thats 11.04
[15:00] <as001> ccsm ? what is that ?
[15:00] <as001> yes bazhang it is 11.04
[15:00] <bazhang> ccsm is compizconfig-settings-manager as001
[15:00] <as001> ok i am there
[15:01] <bazhang> as001, did you choose 'classic' from the login window?
[15:01] <JulinBM> ubuntu is very good! no win 7 more! kk
[15:01] <as001> I think yes
[15:01] <mosno> JulinBM, now you have /bin/more
[15:02] <JulinBM> mosno: ok!
[15:02] <bazhang> as001, so choose unity from the login window
[15:03] <as001> I am not sure i will relog
[15:03] <JulinBM> mosno: I'm not advanced user, but I think it is still best
[15:04] <JulinBM> mosno: what you think?
[15:04] <as001> no I choose Ubuntu on login
[15:04] <mosno> JulinBM, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:05] <bazhang> as001, ubuntu classic? no effects? unity? there is not a choice 'ubuntu'
[15:05] <[u]{s}[e]{r}> anyone mind telling me what all these compiling errors mean? http://pastebin.com/ixhEQkU2 is something wrong with my installed libraries? do i need to reconfigure them?
[15:06] <as001> it is not classic
[15:06] <as001> i will check again
[15:07] <felipe_Brz> how is it possible that upon trying to execute this file http://pastie.org/3472316 , I get the following error message: ./install.sh: 22: Syntax error: "(" unexpected ??????
[15:07] <felipe_Brz> i mean that's just an array declaration
[15:07] <as001> yet is is Ubuntu
[15:07] <as001> I have UBuntu-classic etc...
[15:07] <as001> Recovery console etc..
[15:08] <Oer> [u]{s}[e]{r},  what are you trying to build, john-1.7.9-jumbo-5/src password-cracker ?
[15:08] <[u]{s}[e]{r}> Oer, yes. john-1.7.9-jumbo
[15:08] <bazhang> as001, and you want effects? the dock on the left side and no top and bottom bar?
[15:08] <as001> yes
[15:08] <[u]{s}[e]{r}> Oer, nothing malicious in mind, just trying to do an assignment for school
[15:09] <as001> from startup
[15:09] <Oer> [u]{s}[e]{r}, cannot help you with that. join #backtrack or something
[15:09] <as001> how can i check current windiw manager
[15:09] <[u]{s}[e]{r}> backtrack uses slackware though...
[15:09] <Pici> [u]{s}[e]{r}: john is in the repositories, you may have better luck with that.
[15:09] <as001> if it is  metacity or something else
[15:10] <[u]{s}[e]{r}> the john thats in the repositories does not support sha-512
[15:10] <AaronMT> Everyone see the Ubuntu on Android booth at MWC?
[15:10] <Pembroke_Skubbit> I cant for the life of me get this bloody driver to install
[15:12] <as001> I tried to activate rotate cube and it says it conflicts with Desktop wall and I chosed to remove Desktop Wall and Unity (left part) dissapeared...
[15:12] <chown_> as001: i tried the same 2 days ago
[15:14] <Pembroke_Skubbit> I think nvidia's driver quality has gone downhill
[15:14] <Pembroke_Skubbit> i am doing nothing different than usual
[15:14] <as001> and how did you revert back ?
[15:15] <chown_> as001: at the login i think, i selected: the ubuntu2d login
[15:15] <Pembroke_Skubbit> ah there now it took
[15:15] <karsten_>  hey there. does anybody knows why i can install updates via the "Aktualisierungsverwaltung" (I think its Update Manger in English) in Lubuntu 11.10 without typing in my root-password
[15:15] <Myrtti> karsten_: you can set it to install important security updates without
[15:16] <karsten_> Myrtti, where can set it?
[15:16] <karsten_> *I
[15:16] <chown_> btw as001 i found this tweak: myunity to be of good use on teaking the unity
[15:16] <Daekdroom> karsten_, updates require root privileges
[15:16] <karsten_> Daekdroom, thanks, i know. thats why i'm asking
[15:17] <Daekdroom> Ah. I misread it, sorry.
[15:17] <karsten_> ;)
[15:17] <Myrtti> karsten_: settings-button on the bottom has an option
[15:17] <Myrtti> "When there are security updates:"
[15:17] <Daekdroom> karsten_, sudo is able to remember your root password for about some minutes, so try to pay attention whether you used it shortly before or not.
[15:18] <karsten_> Myrtti, the value of the option is... something like.. "Show instantly"
[15:18] <allu2> am i only one who can't move left up corner directly using ctrl+alt+left+up hotkeys while on down right corner, in unity
[15:18] <Myrtti> karsten_: above that?
[15:19] <karsten_> Daekdroom, i think it is able to store the password for 15 minutes. but i hasn typed in since 11:00am, the updates was at 03:00pm
[15:19] <allu2> works well from up left to down right, down left to up right but it doesn't work down right to up left
[15:19] <Gentoo64> karsten_: sudo -k will reset the timer
[15:19] <karsten_> Myrtti, theres an option "When there are securtiy Updates" and the value of this is "Show instantly" (in my german distribution it is "Sofort anzeigen")
[15:20] <karsten_> Myrtti, so does it allow the installation of updates without typing in the root-password?
[15:21] <Myrtti> karsten_: there should be an option "Download and install automatically" - so security updates would be installed automatically
[15:21] <Myrtti> karsten_: it doesn't install normal updates automatically, though.
[15:22] <karsten_> Myrtti, yes, thats why i'm wondering. It asked me for some security updates, after i touched the "Update"-Button it started to install without the password-prompt
[15:22] <Somelauw> I noticed that in ubuntu 11.4, the xserver has moved to the 8th tty and the 7th tty is now used for logging?
[15:26] <makara> i want to mount a folder as a disk. how to do?
[15:27] <simon__> mount -o loop
[15:27] <simon__> makara: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/folder /mount/point/
[15:27] <simon__> bind rather than loop actually
[15:27] <simon__> sorry
[15:28] <makara> thanss. what is -o bind do?
[15:32] <makara> simon__: it says mount point does not exist
[15:33] <simon__> makara: replace /mount/point with the folder you want to mount it at
[15:33] <simon__> makara: for example mount -o bind /etc /mnt/etc
[15:35] <ogzy> i am getting error while i am trying to repack the libaudiere for oneirich as sudo pbuilder build *.dsc the error message says This package is uninstallable Dependency is not satisfiable: libdumb1-dev
[15:35] <ogzy> although i have libdumb1-dev
[15:35] <ogzy> any idea?
[15:39] <Jan\> i'm trying to figure out what this binary file opens with, theres no file ext and opening with text reader shows garbled text... any clues how to figure it out ?
[15:40] <zykotick9> Jan\: in terminal "file foo" replacing foo with the actual filename - might give a clue
[15:40] <celthunder> Jan\: run it in a terminal
[15:43] <Stormshadow> hi all, im trying to implement a simple send-receive utility using the DBUS C api -- im OK sending  a signal and appending a string. I want to improve on that and send an array of strings -- Im calling dbus_message_iter_open_container() then dbus_message_iter_append_basic() twice (2 element string array)...on the receive end dbus_connection_pop_message() is returning NULL
[15:43] <yabai> uptime
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> Stormshadow  is that C programming?
[15:44] <Stormshadow> emm yep
[15:45] <zykotick9> yabai: FYI, uprecords part of the uptimed package is cooler then just "uptime"
[15:46] <simon__> yayabai: 14:43:58 up  19:17,  2 users,  load average: 0.04, 0.15, 0.57
[15:46] <simon__> :P
[15:46] <Gumpo1> Hi, I have a script command that I want to run when the computer boots, how do I do that? Also, with around 30 sec delay so the wireless is up and running
[15:46] <yabai> zykotick9: :-P uptime works ok for me :-)
[15:47] <simon__> Gumpo1: rc.local?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: does it need root access?
[15:47] <zykotick9> yabai: ya, but to you get "%up 99.997 | since Mon Jan 23 14:50:15 2012"?
[15:47] <Gumpo1> lets pretend i really, reeeally dont know anything about linux
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: but you can still read my question, and reply...
[15:47] <simon__> Gumpo1: step 1, install windows :P
[15:47] <_Marcus> How do I run a bash command over FTP?
[15:47] <Gumpo1> i dunno
[15:47] <_Marcus> I've done it before, I just don't remember how
[15:47] <simon__> Gumpo1: whats it doing?
[15:48] <Gumpo1> i cant run windows from a usb stick. at least not well
[15:48] <Gumpo1> it mounts my time capsule
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: when you run the script yourself, do you need to run it with sudo?
[15:48] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: did you see my message yesterday about the sizes of ubuntu mini?
[15:48] <Gumpo1> yes
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: then it need root
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: sorry, no
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: put the command in a script, and run the scrpt backgrounded. It will need a lengthy sleep command to make it wait long enogh
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: what command do you run and I can make you the script if you like
[15:49] <Gumpo1> i want to run this command
[15:49] <Gumpo1> sudo mount.cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/timecapsule/ /media/capsule -o pass=xxxxx
[15:49] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: mini (base only) 872M, with Xorg 975M, with OB 1008M (after apt-get clean 974M), adding vim 1012M (1004M after apt-get clean)
[15:49] <Gumpo1> this mounts my capsule to /media/capsule folder
[15:50] <Gumpo1> how to do that automatically is beyond me. I tried fstab or whatever but it failed since the network is not laoded before it tried to mount it
[15:51] <bastidrazor> Gumpo1: there are some options to tell it to wait to mount until a network connection is valid.
[15:51] <Gumpo1> hm
[15:52] <Gumpo1> how. also, it mounts stuff before login and whatnot. the wireless driver thingy is one of the last ones to load before the computer is fully functional
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: http://pastie.org/3472671
[15:52] <Gumpo1> i really would like for this command to be run after around 30 sec after the computer has started completely
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: nice, 1Gb for an OS aint bad
[15:53] <Gumpo1> ill have a look at it
[15:53] <bastidrazor> Gumpo1: _netdev option
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: is  that without the suggested packages too?
[15:53] <okram> My 11.10 freezes how can I open System Log Viewer GUI in teminal?
[15:54] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: that's all "default" no trickery, so it could certainly be smaller
[15:54] <bastidrazor> Gumpo1: or the script ActionParsnip gave you.. either should work.
[15:54] <bitcoin_miner> anyone here have a good computer?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> okram: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1   does it  drop to a CLI interface which you can log in to?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> bastidrazor: mines a bit hackier, but should work
[15:54] <bitcoin_miner> http://bit.ly/bitcoinmining
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> bitcoin_miner: please don't spam here
[15:55] <bitcoin_miner> if you leave that open you can make some money using distributed computng
[15:55] <bastidrazor> ActionParsnip: should work yes. it should give the delay too. i don't know if fstab can delay like that
[15:55] <bitcoin_miner> computing*
[15:55] <Gumpo1> ugh, lubuntu on sub is really slow :)
[15:55] <_Marcus> bitcoin_miner: And this has to do with Ubuntu, how?
[15:55] <Gumpo1> *usb
[15:56] <bitcoin_miner> _Marcus: idk just cool
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: most GUI distros will be. Puppy has the toram cheatcode, makes things nice :)
[15:56] <Gumpo1> :)
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> bitcoin_miner: as I said, don't spam. I did say....
[15:57] <dez4rk> Hello world! Finicky February! (dez4rk@freenode)
[15:57] <_Marcus> bitcoin_miner: If I was into Bitcoin mining, I wouldn't generate for you. And that's offtopic, you should see #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:57] <ttt> where do I ask for help with coreutils
[15:57] <_Marcus> ttt: What problem are you having?
[15:57] <dez4rk> You were all just in a ubuntuforums.org screenshot, just saying. ;)
[15:57] <_Marcus> dez4rk: I'm famous now!
[15:58] <ttt> I'm getting behavior I don't understand with tail piping to another program.
[15:58] <okram> Yes ctrl+alt+f1 works and then?
[15:58] <Gumpo1> trying to make a photo frame so everything has to be automatic. its difficult to set up. all i really need is that time capsule mount and a photo viewer to begin automatically streaming pictures from the network
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> okram: run:  dmesg | tail -n 20     and read, it should give clues
[15:59] <ttt> I pipe to a program that ends, but  I don't come back to a command prompt.
[15:59] <makara> simon__: it says the mount point does not exist
[15:59] <okram> Ok I got login promt and as I entered info it flashed some error wich was to fast to read and restarted computer
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> okram: sounds like bad ram to me dude, the command should only output some text. There is a memtester in Grub
[16:00] <zykotick9> makara: a "mount point" is just an empty directory YOU choose, BUT it has to exist BEFORE you try the mount command
[16:01] <stpierre> running 11.04. i rebooted this morning, and now emacs will not start (tried with and without X, and even daemon mode) _unless_ I strace it.  "strace emacs" works just dandy.  reinstalled emacs and all related packages.  other programs -- X and non-X start fine.  any suggestions?
[16:01] <Prolac> how can I check which version of specific software is in the repos?
[16:01] <zykotick9> makara: /mnt exists just for the purpose of temporary mounting
[16:01] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: If there was bad RAM, the computer wouldn't start up though
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Prolac: apt-cache policy packagename
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: RAM is randomly accessed, you could avoid the bad section during boot
[16:02] <okum> hi, i have a pretty noobish question.. can you use any windows installer with wine?
[16:02] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: Oh. I'm guessing he doesn't have a RAM check at startup?
[16:02] <Prolac> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[16:02] <_Marcus> okum: Mostly. Some may not work as well as others.
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> okum: yes but weather or not it will work is a different matter. Check appdb for compatibility
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: its in a defaultinstall
[16:02] <_Marcus> okum: http://appdb.winehq.org/ will tell you how well it works(if it's there)
[16:02] <dez4rk> http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/6685/99screenshotat201202271.png - you're all famous!
[16:03] <sipior> stpierre: are you running strace via sudo? also, what error does it give when it fails?
[16:03] <okum> ActionParsnip: i just mean, could i go download any trial of a windows program and it shall work if known to work? :P
[16:03] <ttt> Marcus:  I'm getting behavior I don't understand with tail -f  piping to another program. I pipe to a program that ends, but  I don't come back to a command prompt.
[16:03] <stpierre> sipior: no error (or output) at all.  i have not been running strace under sudo; root can't run emacs, either, though, fwiw.
[16:03] <stpierre> i've been invoking it as '\emacs -nw -Q -q --no-site-file' to avoid loading ... basically anything other than emacs itself.
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> okum: sure, as long as the appdb says its ok then you'll be ok
[16:04] <sipior> stpierre: and it just kicks you back to a prompt?
[16:04] <Gumpo1> thanks ActionParsnip ill do a reboot and see if it works
[16:04] <okum> ActionParsnip: alright, that's all i wanted to know. thanks, and also thanks _Marcus for the link. (:
[16:04] <stpierre> yeah, after a few seconds.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> okum: the appd also has little hints on settings too
[16:04] <simctrtest> exit
[16:04] <stpierre> ooh, looks like this one is my fault somehow.  if i start up a new bash with --norc, emacs starts fine
[16:05]  * stpierre had better start sorting through his environment.  thanks :)
[16:05] <okum> ActoinParsnip: awesome, thanks.
[16:06] <sipior> stpierre: interesting. is strace suid-root on your system?
[16:06] <stpierre> no
[16:06] <okram> ActionPArsnip: It passes mem test!?! Hence I can only run terminal normally then how can I open built in  system log viewer gui?
[16:07] <zortness> so, trying to determine an issue on installation on my eeepc 1005HA that I've had for years with ubuntu... installation either locks up or restarts the machine when I'm trying to select my keyboard
[16:08] <zortness> iirc it's happened since the 9x releases
[16:08] <zteam> Hi all
[16:08] <dez4rk> ./wave
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> zortness: did you MD5 test the iSO you downloaded?
[16:09] <zteam> Is there any easy way to encrypt the whole ubuntu-system in an existing install?
[16:09] <luvsawti> hello everyone !
[16:09] <exco> what file is responsible for the kernel parameters (11.10, grub2)
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> exco: /etc/default/grub
[16:09] <_Marcus> Hello, luvsawti
[16:10] <zortness> ActionParsnip: not this latest one, but I have had the issue before with others that were verified
[16:10] <Gumpo1> awesomeness ActionParsnip, it works. thanks be to ye
[16:10] <_Marcus> zteam: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[16:10] <Gumpo1> now have to autostart an image viewer to view pictures :)
[16:10] <luvsawti> can anybody tell me how i can create installer for pendrive ?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: do you see what is happening in the script
[16:11] <_Marcus> luvsawti: What do you mean "pendrive"?
[16:11] <Gumpo1> is there a screensaver that can show pictures from a folder perhaps?
[16:11] <okum> how to update wine? it won't let me through update manager cuz it's untrusted packages or something like that.
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: if you didn't use the script file and had it just running in rc.local it would hang the boot
[16:11] <zortness> ActionParsnip: over the past couple of years, I've probably downloaded 20+ images of ubuntu and attempted to install them via cd and usb stick
[16:11] <Gumpo1> hm
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> luvsawti  you mean unetbootin?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: the script is backgrounded and running as root in the background, but the sleep makes the script wait a while so that it can do its thing later
[16:12] <exco> ActionParsnip, there is vt.handoff=7 in my kernel parameters but I can't find the option in /etc/default/grub
[16:12] <Gumpo1> it works, im happy :) how it works? no idea :p
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Gumpo1: as it is backgrounded, the boot will continue as normal
[16:12] <Gumpo1> i see
[16:12] <luvsawti> no i mean removal media !
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> zortness: what happens when you try to boot?
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> luvsawti  do try unetbootin, then
[16:13] <okram> ActionPArsnip: It passes mem test!?! Hence I can only run terminal normally then how can I open built in  system log viewer gui? It was something like tail -f /var/log/messages but I don't remember exactly?
[16:13] <zortness> ActionParsnip: I can boot off the USB and/or the CD fine, play around for a bit, but install always fails
[16:13] <zteam> _Marcus, thanks I'm looking into it right now
[16:14] <v0lksman> anyone know how to access notes on Ubuntu One from an iphone?
[16:14] <luvsawti> no i want to create a installer which will be autorun  !
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> okram: dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.0.log are the main files to read, you can use less in cLI to read them
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> zortness: what happens when you try to boot, saying it "fails" doesn't give much detail
[16:15] <makara> zykotick9: thanks
[16:15] <as001> how can I check currently running windows manager in Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[16:15] <luvsawti> or i say i want to install ubuntu in pendrive , run it too .
[16:15] <zortness> ActionParsnip: so I can boot into the livecd mode, when I install everything is fine until I get to the keyboard selection screen. At that point the installation either locks up completely (mouse freezes, no keys work, have to hardware reset), or the machine resets on its own.
[16:15] <okram> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[16:16] <danileigh79> zortness: Did you burn the CD?
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> luvsawti  http://opensource-sidh.blogspot.com/2011/06/install-ubuntu-on-external-hard-drive.html
[16:16] <zortness> danileigh79: that happens off of a burned cd or a liveUSB stick created with LiLi
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> as001: ps -ef | egrep 'compiz|metacity|openbox|fluxbox|kwin"     should cover enough bases.
[16:17] <danileigh79> What release are you using (sorry for coming into the convo late)
[16:17] <luvsawti> does it will work !
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> zortness: how does the keyboard connect to the system?
[16:17] <zortness> danileigh79: using the latest now, 11.10, but this has happened since the 9.x releases on this machine
[16:17] <as001> I have compiz-decorator and metacity --replace at the moment
[16:18] <zortness> ActionParsnip: it's an asus eeepc 1005HA, so it's a netbook with, i assume, an internally connected ps/2 connection
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> as001: then it's metacity :)
[16:18] <darkknight> hi
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> zortness: hmm, ok let me search
[16:18] <danileigh79> zortness: full install or side by side?
[16:18] <as001> Yes I started it to gain top of windows which dissapeared when I messed compiz.
[16:18] <zortness> danileigh79: full install
[16:19] <as001> Is there way to restart unity insted of metacity
[16:19] <danileigh79> zortness: how long have you left it alone ater it's frozen?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> zortness: tried the boot option: acpi_osi=Linux
[16:19] <zortness> danileigh79: up to 12 hours once, left it while I was at work for the day
[16:19] <okram> ActionParsnip: Any idea whats -> pci0000:00: ACPI _OSC request failed?
[16:19] <zortness> ActionParsnip: how can I specify that during the livecd boot?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> okram: not sure, ask the web
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | zortness
[16:20] <okram> Cant acces web :D
[16:20] <zortness> ty