[01:52] <rick_h_> bah, this branch is cursed!
[01:55] <rick_h_> hatch: I found a way for you to help with the git changeover. It's nodejs for you :P
[01:55] <hatch> lol
[01:55] <hatch> oh yeah? what do I need to do?
[01:56] <rick_h_> update https://github.com/Strider-CD/strider-github/tree/master/lib to do the pull request message checking for LGTM, triggering a CI build, and merging to branch XXX on success :)
[01:59] <hatch> ok but we stil need a third party system to trigger this though right?
[01:59] <rick_h_> no, if we add support (and the stridercd guy is interested in having support built in) we could host our own stridercd instance (charm it up?) or use the hosted service.
[02:00] <rick_h_> hatch: so we'd add the new feature as the hook in github for pull request comment, and on LGTM trigger a final build/merge
[02:00] <hatch> oh ok right, so no matter what we still need a third party to manage the github/travis business
[02:01] <rick_h_> hatch: yea, we'd not use travis in this case. stridercd does what we'd use travis for
[02:01] <rick_h_> no matter what we need something to handle the github hook for pull request comments and to trigger build/merge
[02:01] <hatch> sorry, we can't use it
[02:01] <hatch> he puts commas first
[02:01] <rick_h_> lol
[02:02] <hatch> :D I gota run for supper but I'll take a look at it later
[02:02] <rick_h_> hatch: yea, we can chat about it. I can help and see if we can make it work
[02:02] <rick_h_> it'd be a prime project to charm up as well
[02:54] <rick_h_> ls


[09:37] <smartboyhw> Hello
[09:38] <smartboyhw> !ops
[09:38] <smartboyhw> Uh oh
[09:38] <smartboyhw> I thought it was only supposed to cal the ops in this channel ONLY
[09:38] <smartboyhw> I wanted to update the topic
[09:38] <smartboyhw> holstein, ping
[10:13] <Lump|AFK> oopsie
[10:14] <smartboyhw> Lump|AFK, ?
[10:14] <Lump|AFK> heya
[10:15] <Lump|AFK> i guess it wasn't a big disaster eh smartboyhw
[10:15] <smartboyhw> Oh
[10:15] <Lump|AFK> don't sweat it i would guess
[10:15] <Lump|AFK> and for what it is worth and if it makes you feel better, I banned all of aol.com by mistake once
[10:15] <Lump|AFK> heh
[10:17] <Lump|AFK> have a great day all, i am now with my nick
[10:36] <smartboyhw> zequence, any time for doing some upgrade testing?
[10:36]  * smartboyhw does not
[10:42] <zequence> smartboyhw: I will do some before the final beta
[10:43] <smartboyhw> zequence, :)
[10:47] <smartboyhw> zequence, you can't just give credit to me in the annoucement anyway, credit EVERYBODY :P
[11:06] <zequence> smartboyhw: It was you who wrote the initial announcement, so just wanted to mention that.
[11:06] <smartboyhw> zequence, next time mention everybody:)
[11:07] <smartboyhw> zequence, I do hope Scott turns up today
[11:07] <zequence> smartboyhw: I think next time you do the announcement, and no need to give anyone credit
[11:08] <smartboyhw> zequence, ...................
[11:08]  * smartboyhw is surprised
[11:08] <smartboyhw> zequence, anyway we have a problem: The people involved mainly in Ubuntu Studio now aren't exactly the channel ops
[11:08] <zequence> You are doing good work on handling our releases, so it would only be logical for you to do the announcements too
[11:09] <smartboyhw> zequence, BTW for Beta 2 I wouldn't make the annoucement (1st April) since I'm in Hangzhou in China. I will be back on Tuesday though
[11:09] <smartboyhw> So you wouldn't miss me for release:P
[11:09] <smartboyhw> EASTER HOLIDAYS!
[11:09] <zequence> ok
[11:09] <smartboyhw> Tuesday = 2nd April
[11:09] <smartboyhw> Final beta is 4th April
[11:10] <smartboyhw> astraljava, are you available?
[11:10] <zequence> Hangzhou, isn't that the city close to Shanghai where there's a manmade lake?
[11:10] <smartboyhw> zequence, yep. Xihu
[11:10] <zequence> I spent a few days there in 2002
[11:10] <smartboyhw> West lake
[11:10] <smartboyhw> zequence, XD
[11:10] <smartboyhw> Good
[11:11] <zequence> Nice city
[11:11] <smartboyhw> zequence, also it seems the posts in Ubuntu Studio doesn't get to Planet Ubuntu...
[11:11] <zequence> I don't want them to
[11:11] <smartboyhw> zequence, why?
[11:11] <smartboyhw> Other flavours do that (for annoucements)
[11:11] <Lump|AFK> I am going to see how the 64 bit build works on my eee 1000
[11:11] <smartboyhw> Lump|AFK, +1
[11:11] <Lump|AFK> if you guys want to tell me where to get the beta i will go with that iso
[11:12] <smartboyhw> Lump|AFK, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/13.04/beta-1.
[11:12] <zequence> smartboyhw: Planet Ubuntu is more for blogs, and stuff. I find it to be a very internal source of info - mostly Ubuntu folk read it
[11:13] <zequence> So, making announcements there is sort of pointless IMO
[11:13] <smartboyhw> zequence, well OK then:)
[11:13] <zequence> Unless it's something special
[11:13] <Lump|AFK> i will DL it and try it when i get back from the BMV
[11:13] <smartboyhw> zequence, so how to deal with the IRC ops problem?
[11:14] <Lump|AFK> for now I /must/ get in symc with my nick
[11:14] <Lump|AFK> i will be on the air tonight and likely back in here crying about destroying a netbook
[11:14] <smartboyhw> LOL
[11:14] <Lump|AFK> if any of you want on my show stream tonight to talk studio let me know and have teamspeak3 installed
[11:15] <Lump|AFK> ttyl
[11:15] <smartboyhw> Lump|AFK, what show stream!?
[11:17] <Lump|AFK> i am the owner and unboss of indienation.fm an online indie music station
[11:17] <Lump|AFK> we also do tech net news
[11:17] <Lump|AFK> the tech director and i are both ubuntu addicts
[11:18] <smartboyhw> Lump|AFK, :)
[11:18] <Lump|AFK> although recently i have begun to like mint for my older machines
[11:18] <Lump|AFK> i am dling the iso to my network drive as i type
[11:18] <Lump|AFK> i use studio, jackrack, meterbridge and idjc for my live stream wf
[11:19] <Lump|AFK> i hijack the icecast server and it relays
[11:19] <Lump|AFK> i am on from 8 PM to 2 AM EST on Fridays
[11:27] <astraljava> smartboyhw: For what? Quite sporadically, if you meant now.
[11:28] <smartboyhw> astraljava, for updating the topic to include the beta 1 links
[11:28] <astraljava> Ahh... yes, sure.
[11:29] <astraljava> Do you want something to get rid off from the current one?
[11:30] <smartboyhw> astraljava, no. Just add "Ubuntu Studio 13.04 Beta 1 Released http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/13.04/beta-1"
[11:30] <astraljava> Ok.
[11:31] <smartboyhw> astraljava, only in this channel:)
[11:32] <astraljava> Right, I doubt I have privileges much elsewhere.
[11:32] <smartboyhw> YEAH
[11:32] <astraljava> I ran out of time for testing it before, but downloaded the image and will install in Parallels over the weekend.
[11:32] <smartboyhw> astraljava, :)
[11:33] <astraljava> Good job guys! Glad to see the train chugging along nicely. :)
[11:33] <smartboyhw> astraljava, :)
[11:34] <smartboyhw> I do hope that Scott wasn't so busy these days
[11:34] <smartboyhw> He couldn't even get on IRC
[11:34] <astraljava> Yeah, "real" life's a b*... pain.
[11:34] <smartboyhw> yeah
[11:35] <zequence> This isn't real life? i might need to pinch myself
[11:35] <astraljava> I have a gazillion things to do, but never get even started.
[11:35] <smartboyhw> astraljava, so how are you these days?
[11:35] <smartboyhw> zequence, LOL
[11:35] <astraljava> zequence: Yeah, I cringe whenever I type it. But it's an opinion shared by the majority, so...
[11:56] <zequence> I guess we could add a PlanetUbuntu category for our site postings
[11:56] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK I will do that:)
[11:57] <zequence> What I would do is whenever we post something that isn't obvious to the Ubuntu community, like new feature additions, interviews with people using Ubuntu Studio, that kind of thing, then we add the PlanetUbuntu category
[11:57] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK.
[11:58] <smartboyhw> So I should set it up now first I think
[11:58] <zequence> Final release deserves a post I think
[11:58] <smartboyhw> zequence, +1
[11:59]  * smartboyhw has added the category
[12:03] <astraljava> smartboyhw: Good, but very busy. And how might you be?
[12:03] <smartboyhw> zequence, done:)
[12:04] <smartboyhw> astraljava, good
[12:17] <smartboyhw> zequence, most of our blueprints are targetted at beta 2
[12:18] <smartboyhw> we are absolutely in good progress (except the artworks and half of the work items are actually POSTPONED:P)
[12:18] <zequence> We're basically done for this cycle
[12:18] <zequence> I'm waiting until Monday before touching the last blueprints
[12:19] <zequence> If Scott doesn't appear until then, I edit those too
[12:19] <zequence> Or, the last one
[12:19] <smartboyhw> OK
[12:23] <smartboyhw> zequence, so probably mark the blueprints as DONE or whatsoever?
[12:23] <zequence> I don't know yet. I'll wait until Monday to look through them
[12:23] <smartboyhw> zequence, well if all of them are POSTPONED or DONE we should
[12:24] <zequence> As I said, I'll wait until Monday, and then I'll look through them
[12:24] <zequence> There's no hurry
[12:24] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK
[12:25] <smartboyhw> So what we are basically doing now is get the artwork in and do testing:P
[12:25] <smartboyhw> and that's 13.04!!!
[12:27] <zequence> I find that it's a good idea to keep doing this in the future. To be fully done by Beta 1, and if we find bugs, we have a long time to fix them before final release
[12:28] <zequence> I'm having a PA bug, for instance
[12:30] <astraljava> zequence: Reported?
[12:31] <zequence> astraljava: I'm still working on finding the cause
[12:31] <zequence> I'll put some time on it this weekend
[12:31]  * smartboyhw +1s
[12:31]  * smartboyhw -1s the bug
[12:31] <zequence> might be a good idea to do some upgrade testing too, soonish
[12:58] <astraljava> zequence: Ok, I'll see if I hit it after installation, let's talk if we're online at the same time.
[12:58]  * astraljava is travelling now
[12:59] <zequence> astraljava: Happy travelling
[12:59] <smartboyhw> astraljava, happy trip!
[14:15] <holstein> smartboyhw: pong
[14:15] <smartboyhw> holstein, nothing now :P
[14:15] <holstein> :)
[15:30] <smartboyhw> zequence, should we add some "Release" content to our wiki?
[15:35] <smartboyhw> I mean actually DOING releases
[16:33]  * micahg seems to keep missing smartboyhw....
[20:38] <len-1304> zequence, there is a new pa-jack bridge package out today.
[20:46] <len-1304> Whoever removed, studio from the upgrade test... Thank you.
[20:47] <len-1304> oops, except its back in the dailies.
[20:49] <len-1304> There is also new x and video drivers. Krita is new again too.


[07:22] <patrickmw> skaet, I don't think those results have been updated in quite some time.  Is there a particular set of information you are looking for?
[16:10] <kamusin> I have downloaded the daily oneiric but it seems is broken, at least I pressed enter in login session and kick me to a tty terminal, do you know if there is any report about this issue?
[16:10] <charlie-tca> You have to use a mouse at this time
[16:11] <charlie-tca> by clicking on the user name, then entering a password, then choosing a session with the mouse, then clicking login, it works
[16:11] <charlie-tca> anything else seems to fail for me and send me to the tty
[16:13] <kamusin> I used my touchpad instead :( , also I noticed lightdm or something has opened all the ttys from F1 to F6
[16:13] <kamusin> thanks anyway charlie-tca ;)


[06:03] <LW3S03LS> ##club-nomicon
[06:03] <LW3S03LS> anybody know of a "virtual file cabinet" software available for lubuntu?
[10:10] <Gnjurac> hi
[10:10] <Gnjurac> where to turn off  lock screen so it dosent ask me to login after 20mins off not using pc
[13:52] <marcus> hi all. i got gnome-mplayer in use and wanted to play a webm video. it starts playing the sound, but no video. using just mplayer it works fine. any ideas?
[13:58] <NOOB> vlc
[13:58] <NOOB> marcus:
[14:17] <marcus> yes, that works
[16:48] <utu8o> easy to turn a netbook into a wireless router with lubuntu liveCD/USB ???
[16:51] <wxl> utu8o: as easy as it is with any other netbook and live media
[16:53] <wxl> utu8o: not finding any obvious instructions on the internet save for this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1663788
[16:53] <wxl> utu8o: good luck


[00:05] <welshmen> is any one familiar with backtrack?
[00:14] <bazhang> welshmen, people in backtrack support: #backtrack-linux
[01:41] <welshmen> when using GParted do i use it at boot or load an OS and run it from there?
[01:46] <xGrind> welshmen; ???
[01:47] <xGrind> live-cd
[01:47] <bazhang> welshmen, you are on backtrack?
[01:47] <welshmen> yeah DL'd it and burned it to a disc but won't boot when the Computer starts
[01:48] <welshmen> no but that's what i'm tring to install  along with ubuntu and windows 7
[01:48] <bazhang> welshmen, and its not supported here; try #backtrack-linux as I suggested
[01:49] <welshmen> and they told me for Gparted partitioning that you guys would know more about it
[01:49] <welshmen> i don't want to upset anyone   it just won't load
[01:50] <bazhang> welshmen, who is they? if this is backtrack we are talking about then you need to seek their support
[01:51] <welshmen> i want to create a partition using Gparted
[01:51] <bazhang> then boot from the gparted livecd and do so
[01:52] <welshmen> it won't boot thats what i'm asking      do i need to load an OS or does it boot with the pc
[01:53] <bazhang> gparted live cd wont load?
[01:53] <welshmen> if ino goes right to a bootmgr
[01:53] <welshmen> bypasses the cd
[01:54] <welshmen> i've made two  on two different pc's
[03:29] <kuatoAR> Hello ! greetings from Argentina
[03:29] <kuatoAR> i need help @_@
[03:31] <bazhang> with what kuatoAR
[03:33] <ball> Is Xubuntu smaller (in terms of disk requirement) than Gnome Ubuntu?
[03:34] <kuatoAR> it is an small problem, but I'm new on Xubuntu. Iv'e installed Xubuntu 10.10 and one of my drives is not listed in "places"
[03:34] <kuatoAR> do i need to edit fstab ?
[03:34] <ball> kuatoAR: what kind of drive is it and what filesystems does it contain?
[03:35] <bazhang> kuatoAR, that would be a good idea yes
[03:35] <kuatoAR> It is a fat32 hard drive with XP
[03:36] <kuatoAR> fdisk -l  shows me that it is recognized as /dev/sda os /dev/sd1
[03:38] <kuatoAR> but i can't access to the drive
[03:39] <kuatoAR> I can see the drive using Gigolo, but not access to it
[03:40] <kuatoAR> well it seems that now i can ! hahah
[03:40] <kuatoAR> But how do i add the launcher to places ?
[03:40] <bazhang> edit the places menu?
[03:41] <ball> I'll be back later.
[03:44] <welshmen> can't get VMware to install any ideas, post comes up and says not been able to detect the character encoding???
[03:45] <bazhang> welshmen, why not use vbox?
[03:45] <welshmen> is it easier to get installed?
[03:46] <bazhang> yes
[03:46] <welshmen> vbox
[03:46] <bazhang> correct
[05:37]  * ball <- downloading Xubuntu 10.10.
[06:24] <randomus1r> hi
[06:25] <randomus1r> I installed 'xubuntu-desktop', what command do I use to start gui session now?
[06:28] <ball> randomus1r: Have you tried "xfce-session" or just "startx" ?
[06:28]  * ball <- doesn't know
[06:29] <randomus1r> cmd not dound ; xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (No such file or directory)
[06:29] <randomus1r> s/d/f/
[06:34] <ball> I don't know then.  Perhaps it depends on something like Xdm.
[06:42] <ball> I'm exhausted.
[06:42] <ball> Goodnight all.
[07:17] <Sysi> randomus1r: i think you should have gdm installed as dependency
[07:18] <Sysi> if you don't want to reboot, 'sudo service gdm start'
[07:54] <randomus1r> Sysi,
[07:55] <randomus1r> i'm vncing to ubuntu hardy server edition
[07:55] <randomus1r> i have installed xubuntu-desktop there
[07:55] <randomus1r> i need to know what to run upon the vnc connection to get the gui
[07:56] <Sysi> sorry, i've only used vnc with already started session
[07:56] <randomus1r> so you probably know its config
[07:56] <Sysi> how do you even make that connection before logging in?
[07:56] <randomus1r> ~/.vnc/xstartup
[07:56] <randomus1r> er
[07:57] <randomus1r> i run ' vnc4server :2 ' at server
[07:57] <Sysi> is that file like ~/.xinitrc?
[07:57] <randomus1r> then i connect using vncviewer from client side
[07:57] <randomus1r> i have no ~/.xinitrc
[07:57] <Sysi> i'm just wondering if it works the same way
[07:58] <Sysi> you could try putting 'startxfce4' there
[07:58] <randomus1r> # Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop:
[07:58] <randomus1r> # unset SESSION_MANAGER
[07:58] <randomus1r> # exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[07:58] <randomus1r> i uncommented those
[07:59] <Sysi> so you need to create xinitrc
[07:59] <Sysi> google propably knows better than me
[08:00] <Sysi> oh wait, /etc, there might be something already
[08:01] <randomus1r> http://dpaste.org/7XE9/ is the /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc file contents
[08:01] <randomus1r> /etc is a directory
[08:02] <Sysi> i know
[08:03] <Sysi> i noticed it's about system-wine, not in your /home
[08:05] <Sysi> that Xinitrc looks quite complicated script but i guss it "just works", you could try uncomenting line launching it
[12:07] <daniel> some thing going wrong at update
[12:08] <daniel> Requires installation of untrusted packages
[12:09] <daniel> anyone?
[12:10] <knome> daniel, you can try another server
[12:10] <daniel> knome ? how
[12:11] <knome> daniel, in synaptic, see settings -> repositories
[12:11] <knome> daniel, but you are right, having untrusted packages shouldn't happen
[12:12] <bazhang> daniel, you have some PPA in there? please pastebin your sources.list
[12:13] <daniel> I still dont see the synaptic but I will as I find
[12:16] <daniel> bazhang, where is the sources.list found
[12:16] <bazhang>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:17] <daniel> There is nothing in that file
[12:19] <daniel> lil slow here
[12:21] <daniel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/561894/
[12:23] <bazhang> daniel, which repo is untrusted? extras.ubuntu.com ?
[12:25] <daniel> bazhang, where will it say that?
[12:26] <bazhang> daniel, what is the precise error you get. please pastebin it
[12:27] <daniel> apparmor apparmor-utils apport apport-gtk aptdaemon bsdutils cups cups-bsd cups-client cups-common cups-ppdc dbus dbus-x11 dpkg evince evince-common fuse-utils gnome-system-tools ifupdown libapparmor-perl libapparmor1 libblkid1 libc-bin libc-dev-bin libc6 libc6-dev libcups2 libcupscgi1 libcupsdriver1 libcupsimage2 libcupsmime1 libcupsppdc1 libdbus-1-3 libevdocument3 libevview3 libfuse2 liblcms1 libparted0debian1 libsmbclient libsql
[12:27] <daniel> ite3-0 libuuid1 libwbclient0 mount parted python-apport python-aptdaemon python-aptdaemon-gtk python-problem-report samba-common samba-common-bin smbclient sudo ubuntu-sso-client util-linux uuid-runtime xserver-common xserver-xorg-core is all it gives
[12:28] <bazhang> daniel, pastebin not here
[12:28] <bazhang> ugh
[12:28] <bazhang> daniel, there's no error there
[12:29] <daniel> those shouldnt be extras
[12:29] <daniel> that was it
[12:29] <daniel> Requires installation of untrusted packages
[12:29] <daniel> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[12:33] <Sysi> ppa:s in use?
[12:33] <bazhang> daniel, well you can risk it, or verify the gpg
[12:33] <bazhang> !gpgerr | daniel
[12:33] <bazhang> ubottu, lag
[12:34] <daniel> what is custom??
[12:35] <bazhang> daniel, just try the standard one
[12:35] <knome> daniel, 'sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 437D05B5' in terminal
[12:38] <daniel> knome that is already in the trusted sources
[12:41] <bazhang> perhaps in sources.list.d then
[12:43] <daniel> bazhang, that is the file I was saying was empty
[12:45] <bazhang> daniel, sounds like you added some repos that are not showing up in regular sources.list thus the need to check sources.list.d
[12:45] <bazhang> daniel, cd into the directory and see whats in there
[12:47] <daniel> bazhang, I will do that but this is rather a plain build
[12:47] <bazhang> daniel, so no tweaks, or the like. 100% standard repos and packages?
[12:48] <daniel> except nvidia but pretty plain
[12:52] <daniel> cd and nothing is there /etc/apt/sources.list.d$
[13:00] <daniel> does the same after re adding the key as mentioned
[13:03] <daniel> all this is happening from the update prompt or update manager( pop up
[13:06] <daniel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/561917/
[13:14] <daniel> anyone?
[13:36] <Bas> Hello All
[13:37] <Bas> can anyone help me disableing standby ?
[14:02] <vikas> having problems connecting  gprs getting error http://paste.ubuntu.com/561937/ if anybody  can help
[14:03] <Sysi> Bas: like what?
[14:04] <Sysi> vikas: how / to what are you connecting?
[14:04] <vikas> to pc from phone
[14:05] <Sysi> where did you dig that errormessage, it should be easy with networkmanager
[14:06] <Sysi> plug in phone, right click on icon in the panel, manage connections, mobile, add new
[14:09] <Bas> Sysi: my screen goes blank , i disabled the screensaver and the powermanagement, no result
[14:10] <Sysi> but it wakes up after that?
[14:10] <Bas> if i move the mouse
[14:10] <Bas> or press a key
[14:11] <Bas> it puzzeling me
[14:11] <Bas> it=its
[14:12] <Sysi> you're sure you don't have other power managers? it may work after reboot
[14:15] <vinnl> charlie-tca, that the download link for alpha 2 doesn't work yet means it hasn't been released yet, right?
[14:16] <charlie-tca> yes, vinnl
[14:16] <vinnl> OK
[14:17] <charlie-tca> They don't let work until we get everything ready
[14:17] <vinnl> OK, any ETA?
[14:17] <charlie-tca> sometime in the next 12 hours is the best I got
[14:17] <vinnl> :S
[14:18] <charlie-tca> sorry, normally we try to be there by 18:00 UTC, but testing got held up
[14:18] <vinnl> Yeah np, worst case the announcement will be there tomorrow
[14:18] <charlie-tca> yeah
[14:46] <mhall119> what's the target date for alpha 2 releasE?
[14:46] <mhall119> oh, nevermind
[14:46] <mhall119> just read the scrollback
[18:29] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu community meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 30 minutes. Everyone is invited to attend.
[19:00] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu community meeting in #ubuntu-meeting. Everyone is invited to attend.
[19:17] <welshmen> can someone be kind enough to put a link for backtrack
[19:23] <welshmen> can any one help with driver installs?
[19:27] <welshmen> is anyone on??
[19:27] <TheSheep> no
[19:28] <TheSheep> just us, mice
[19:30] <welshmen> blind mice??
[19:30] <TheSheep> no, fat mice
[19:30] <welshmen> then i'm in the right place
[19:30] <TheSheep> if you ask any non-rhetorical question someone who knows the answer might say it
[19:30] <TheSheep> (not that I know what "backtrack" is)
[19:30] <welshmen> well i would hope that people in here could help me with to most of them would be a simple answer
[19:31] <welshmen> i can't install drivers in this ver. of linux and as   i follow tut.s  i get errors
[19:31] <welshmen> and can't find anything useful about the erroes
[19:31] <TheSheep> why didn't you just use the system->additional drivers dialog?
[19:32] <TheSheep> it's not finding what you need?
[19:33] <welshmen> no   i saw it once and now it's gine
[19:34] <welshmen> but it wasn't working it didn't show up in Wcid
[19:34] <TheSheep> Wcid?
[19:34] <welshmen> i saw it in the wicd*
[19:35] <welshmen> no thats wrong
[19:36] <welshmen> It showed up in a hardware lookup thruogh the terminal
[19:36] <TheSheep> ok, anyways, maybe you could just describe what you are trying to do exactly
[19:36] <TheSheep> and we can try and point you to the best way to achieve that
[19:36] <welshmen> ok sounds good
[19:38] <welshmen> i'm trying to get my wireless card to be seen and activated, now i got a driver and followed to tut  but i get errors.  it comes down to i don't know how to install driverss
[19:38] <welshmen> i'm new to this linux stuff and want to learn just having some problems
[19:39] <TheSheep> what card is it?
[19:39] <TheSheep> broadcom?
[19:39] <welshmen> yes
[19:39] <TheSheep> ideapad u350 by any chance?
[19:39] <welshmen> i've searched and found that this hybrid driver will work
[19:39] <welshmen> no HP touchsmart
[19:40] <TheSheep> the hybrid driver from broadcom's website never worked for me
[19:40] <welshmen> damn
[19:40] <TheSheep> the driver that is installed by ubuntu automatically works good though
[19:40] <welshmen> didn't for me
[19:41] <welshmen> could i use a netgear USB device3?
[19:41] <welshmen> \would that auto install it's own driver
[19:41] <welshmen> ?
[19:42] <TheSheep> I had some problems with a broadcom card on ideapad recently, the system saw it, but it could never see any network and the power management said it's set to 0db of signal
[19:42] <TheSheep> resetting bios to factory settings fixed that
[19:43] <welshmen> ok
[19:43] <TheSheep> do you even have the "wireless networks" section in network manager?
[19:44] <welshmen> but just help me with one step..... how would you install a driver in general?
[19:44] <TheSheep> on xubuntu -- with jockey
[19:44] <welshmen> no nothing shows up the wireless card doesn't appear
[19:45] <TheSheep> I would avoid any 3rd party drivers
[19:45] <welshmen> but i found a command that show hardware and it was there
[19:45] <welshmen> but not working
[19:45] <TheSheep> welshmen: what happens when you run jockey-gtk?
[19:45] <TheSheep> welshmen: does it find the right driver?
[20:52] <Lord_Rahl> Anyone know why I can not send files in pidgin on xubuntu? I could in gnome but, xfce the send file option is grey out
[20:54] <Lord_Rahl> this is for gtalk or jabber network
[21:19] <craigbass1976> I'm trying to vnc into my xubuntu box from a lubuntu box.  I'm running it on a differnet port though (5950) and am wonering how to connect.  vncviewer <IP_ADDRESS>:5950  gives me "CConn:       connected to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 5950, main:        End of stream
[21:19] <craigbass1976> "
[22:31] <charlie-tca> Natty Alpha2 officially released - Please see the notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview
[22:49] <welshmen> whats the difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu?
[22:49] <welshmen> is one more of a beginner OS than the other
[22:50] <charlie-tca> hm, Ubuntu uses Gnome desktop environment, Kubuntu uses KDE
[22:50] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu is normally recommended for beginners, it is very easy to configure and use
[23:21] <welshmen> i know this is just  primarily a ubuntu chat, but i git a crappy problem.  i got a laptop and wanted to put ubuntu on, but the drive had problems with win 7 ( i think it git a virus) and i formatted it with a PS3. Now it gets an error back in the laptop, so i took it out and boot got the same error ,than put the drive back in and now it just blinks like it reading the drive
[23:26] <charlie-tca> Actually, stating you know that is not appropriate, then saying it, does not make it appropriate for this channel.
[23:26] <charlie-tca> This channel is for support of Xubuntu
[23:28] <welshmen> so regardless if I had had ubuntu on the computer and had a system failure it still wouldn't be considered support for ubuntu??
[23:29] <charlie-tca> right. Ubuntu support is in #ubuntu. We try to help when we have time, but we do not know as much about Ubuntu as we do about Xubuntu
[23:44] <Plasmastar> Anyone here?
[23:46] <charlie-tca> !anyone
[23:51] <pylix> is xfce 4.8 distributed with the xubuntu 10.10 live cd?
[23:51] <charlie-tca> pylix: no, it is only on the natty cd's
[23:52] <charlie-tca> Natty is the latest development version
[23:52] <pylix> so it's like in beta
[23:53] <charlie-tca> yes, actually alpha at this time
[23:53] <charlie-tca> We don't even get to beta until the end of March
[23:54] <pylix> can i have a link please
[23:55] <pylix> is it the 11.04 alpha 1?
[23:55] <charlie-tca> no, alpha2. We just released alpha2 today
[23:55] <charlie-tca> Please see the notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview
[23:56] <charlie-tca> alpha1 has more updates now then the whole image size, I would guess.
[23:57] <pylix> where would i report encountered bugs?
[23:57] <charlie-tca> launchpad
[23:57] <charlie-tca> !bugs
[23:58] <pylix> kay.


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