[00:00] <nemmonszzz> there is a Unison config setting (perms) which control which parts of the file permission to synchronize, but if i try to use it, i get the error 'Error in setting file ownership: Operation not permitted'
[00:01] <nacc> nemmonszzz: quick glance at their manual implies that it's tied to umask on the remote end if it's a new file
[00:03] <nemmonszzz> oh wow
[00:03] <nemmonszzz> you are an absolute livesaver
[00:03] <nemmonszzz> i must have read that paragraph a few times but because i had no idea what umask was, i just ignored it. with you specifically pointing it out i now see how it's very relevant
[00:04] <nacc> nemmonszzz: there coudl be a real bug, but i'd suspect umask first :)
[00:04] <nemmonszzz> no you're definitely right. the umask on server-2 is 002
[00:04] <nacc> nemmonszzz: yep, i think that's the default now (it is that way for me on 16.04 as well)
[00:04] <nemmonszzz> do you see any inherent harm in me changing that to 022?
[00:05] <nacc> nemmonszzz: well, it will make all files have g+w, i think
[00:05] <nemmonszzz> err no, that's not the one i want.
[00:05] <nacc> nemmonszzz: it doesn't seem to 'and' the permissions, it just takes the umask value (aiui)
[00:05] <nemmonszzz> ah i see. okay
[00:06] <nacc> nemmonszzz: i'm not sure what unison buys you, or why you're using it, but perhaps rsync would be better :)
[00:06] <nacc> nemmonszzz: the other thing you run into is that, based upon that same paragraph, the permissions ont he remote don't meant hte same thing
[00:06] <nacc> as the uid and gid aren't copied (cna't be, really)
[00:06] <nacc> so the effective user and group aren't the same as on server-1 necessarily
[00:06] <nacc> nemmonszzz: it's forced over to the unison server's user and group, i think
[00:07] <nemmonszzz> in this case they are for sure because the servers were made from the same puppet config,
[00:07] <nemmonszzz> or, at least, i think that means the user and group would be the same across servers
[00:07] <nacc> nemmonszzz: does unison run as www-data on server-2 ?
[00:07] <nacc> nemmonszzz: no i mean implementation wise they don't do that
[00:07] <nacc> nemmonszzz: "The Unix owner and group ids are not propagated. (What would this mean, in general?) All files are created with the owner and group of the server process. "
[00:07] <nemmonszzz> oh i see
[00:08] <nacc> so www-data:www-data rw-rw---- on server1 becomes <unison user>:<unison group> <umask> on server2
[00:08] <nacc> afaict
[00:08] <nemmonszzz> yeah, that's fine because unison user on server 2 is part of www-data anyway
[00:09] <nemmonszzz> that was the first hurdle i had to figure out a few hours ago
[00:09] <nacc> i don't know anything about unison, and don't know why you are using it, but i'll say 'rsync' again :)
[00:09] <nacc> i guess unison is a rsync implementation, reading a bit more?
[00:09] <nemmonszzz> yeah so i picked unison as a quick and dirty way to do two-way file sync between two servers
[00:09] <nemmonszzz> yeah it is
[00:09] <nemmonszzz> i thought rsync was just 1-way?
[00:10] <nacc> nemmonszzz: i mean it'd be two steps, i guess, but it does look like (on cursory googling) unison is a common answer to how to do 2-way rsyncs :)
[00:11] <nemmonszzz> yeah, that's how i found it =)
[00:11] <nacc> there's apparently bsync and osync
[00:11] <nemmonszzz> basically what happened was that i had a web application running on a server, i moved it to a more robust 2-server setup behind a load balancer, then realized i had some user-uploaded content that i needed to have synced between the two
[00:11] <nacc> nemmonszzz: alright, you've sent me down a rathole, i think you at least have an answer now :)
[00:12] <nemmonszzz> nacc yes, thank you very much. huge help. one of these days i'll learn to read allll the documentation rather than just select bits.
[00:12] <nacc> nemmonszzz: you should tell the unison folks to crossref their documentation with manpages
[00:12] <nacc> nemmonszzz: would make it more obvious when a unix-y thing is being mentioned
[00:42] <kaz> Is anyone active?
[00:43] <Arcaire> yeah i work out a couple hours before bed and walk about 5-7km a day.
[00:43] <Bashing-om> kaz: Depends on what it takes to raise a head . Ask your question .
[00:43] <Arcaire> I guess I could say I'm pretty active.
[00:43] <somsip> !ot | Arcaire
[00:43] <Arcaire> I bet you were trembling to do that.
[00:47] <kaz> my system when playing games used to run fine. I could play nexuiz great but now it I can barely play nexuiz at low settings. Any ideas? I just updated ubuntu.
[00:47] <kaz> 16.04 btw
[00:47] <Arcaire> kaz: Do you know what graphics drivers you're using? Now and before.
[00:48] <kaz> I never installed drivers. I assume it should be the intel int. graphics
[00:49] <kaz> or some asus onboard graphics
[00:49] <somsip> kaz: sudo lshw -c Video will tell you what board you have
[00:49] <kaz> k 1 sec
[00:50] <kaz> *-display:0
[00:50] <kaz>        description: VGA compatible controller
[00:50] <kaz>        product: 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[00:50] <kaz>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[00:50] <kaz>        physical id: 2
[00:50] <kaz>        bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
[00:50] <tonyt> not very smart lol
[00:52] <ash_workz> I get errors on `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` https://gist.github.com/anonymous/319f47a15340c71c8e64597d205d9384
[00:52] <ash_workz> any ideas?
[00:52] <kaz> my question first lol
[00:53] <somsip> kaz: no, everyone asks and anyone helps if they can. Check what driver you're using with "lspci -k | grep -ia2  vga"
[00:53] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: What release ? ' cat /etc/issue '
[00:54] <nacc> ash_workz: also there wil be more output than that, please provide the *full* output on the terminal, including the command run
[00:55] <somsip> !info libnet-amazon-ec2-perl trusty
[00:58] <k1l_> ash_workz: what is all the output? this just indicates there is something more going wrong
[01:00] <ash_workz> waiting for output :)
[01:00] <schlieffen> :v
[01:00] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[01:01] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: K . waiting for the requested outputs :)
[01:03] <ash_workz> my too o.o;
[01:04] <ash_workz> s/y/e
[01:04] <drama> i added a usb wifi adapter and forgot the password for the pop up and now https doesn't work
[01:05] <ash_workz> taking an abnormal amount of time imo
[01:08] <ash_workz> not it says it's out of space
[01:10] <ash_workz> I wish I had set it up with more disk space for boot when I first installed ubuntu
[01:10] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Then . 'df -h ; df -i ; dpkg -l | grep linux- ' in a pastebin .
[01:12] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c3fc304976aff6ea4259ab9dde3b0e9a
[01:13] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Look'n .
[01:13] <somsip> !info libnet-amazon-ec2-perl
[01:16] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Probably will not work .. but try ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' to try to get some head room by removimg old kernels .
[01:36] <Guest_node> Hi. When is 16.04.1 released?
[01:36] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: We resorting to a manual kernel removal procedure ?
[01:37] <Bashing-om> Guest_node: Prposed as July 21 .
[01:38] <omsig> Hello,can someone help me,I have installed Xubunt 16.4 and in Terminal is no sound card ?He can also not foud the alsamixer.What can I do?
[01:39] <Bashing-om> !sound | omsig
[01:40] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: sorry, if it's not one thing it's another :\
[01:41] <omsig> I do this help ubuntu for sound and a lot of other,but nothing works :(
[01:41] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ae9819c55be138f6892e7c96687ef9f5
[01:42] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Look'n ,
[01:42] <Guest_node> Hi. When is 16.04.1 released?
[01:43] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | Guest_node
[01:43] <Guest_node> Thanks
[01:43] <somsip> Bashing-om: you need manual removal. Check what kernel is in use, go to /usr/src and delete the contents of a directory for a kernel that is not in use, eg: sudo rm -rf linux-headers-3.13.0-64/*. If you remove the dir, apt-get will complain. You may need to remove a couple of them
[01:44] <somsip> ash_workz: ^^^ (not Bashing-om - sorry)
[01:44] <somsip> ash_workz: and dont delete any that are not yet configured, so leave *-59 in there
[01:45] <nacc> somsip: that doesn't seem like the correct advice, sorry
[01:45] <nacc> i believe /boot is full
[01:45] <nacc> not /
[01:45] <omsig> I have kernel 4.2 or someting like this
[01:45] <somsip> nacc: quite right - I misread the df -h paste.
[01:45] <nacc> ash_workz: did you do an autoremove?
[01:46] <somsip> ash_workz: forget everything I just said :)
[01:46] <nacc> somsip: sorry, didn't want ash_workz to go down the wrong path
[01:46] <somsip> nacc: not at all. I'm happy to be corrected when I'm wrong.
[01:46] <ash_workz> somsip: that's the 'appropriate' way to do that? I know linux has a fairly detailed service for these things
[01:46] <somsip> ash_workz: wrong track - my mistake for confusing the issue.
[01:46] <ash_workz> autoremove resulted in errors
[01:46] <nacc> ash_workz: stepping away but you probably want to run `apt-get autoremove` first, to see if some not in-use kernels can be removed
[01:47] <nacc> ash_workz: did you pastebin the errors?
[01:47] <ash_workz> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ae9819c55be138f6892e7c96687ef9f5
[01:47] <nacc> ash_workz: taht's from `apt-get autoremove` ?
[01:47] <omsig> Ok I am absoluetly new with Linux,what you mean with pastebin?
[01:48] <nacc> !paste | omsig
[01:48] <ecaz> Q: Can a non-root user initiate a tun (tunnel) connection without using sudo? IE, can I run openvpn without using 'sudo openvpn'
[01:48] <ash_workz> nacc: sudo apt-get autoremove yeah
[01:48] <ash_workz> nacc: should I try again?
[01:49] <nacc> ash_workz: hrm, ok -- so you might need to remove 'linux-image-3.19.0-59-generic' so that autoremove can run. I need to step away unfrotunately (dinner time). But it looks like you first need to get apt into a good state (it's in mid-process of those kernel pacakges)
[01:49] <nacc> ash_workz: then autoremove
[01:49] <somsip> ash_workz: *answer 2* so this is the same sort of thing but focussed on the contents in /boot not / as I said before http://askubuntu.com/questions/345588/what-is-the-safest-way-to-clean-up-boot-partition
[01:49] <nacc> ash_workz: hopefully someone else can answer fully
[01:49] <ash_workz> nacc: thanks
[01:50] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: nacc I have in mind to sic 'dpkg' on removing images . what is the booting kernel ' uname -r ' ?
[01:50] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: *shrug* ?
[01:51] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: did you see that in the autoremove output?
[01:51] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Many paths to one end . But need to make sure we do not mess with the booting kernel . ' uname -r ' to know this kernel .
[01:52] <ecaz> Question: ERROR: Cannot ioctl TUNSETIFF tun: Operation not permitted (errno=1) - can a non-root or non-sudo user (administrative user) establish a tunnel?
[01:52] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: OH! You want me to _run_ that; I thought you were saying that you were perplexed by a line of output code
[01:52] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: 3.19.0-58-generic
[01:52] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: That last .. I saw "  stdout: No space left on device " apt has no head room to work in .
[01:53] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: yeah
[01:53] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: I am not linux-y enough to expand the disk space post initial install
[01:53] <ash_workz> :(
[01:55] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: should I just follow the advice at somsip's link?
[01:56] <Bashing-om> asj try: ' sudo apt-get remove linux-{image,headers}-3.19.0-{25,26,28,30,31,33,39,43}-generic; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get autoremove ' is what I have had the better success with .
[01:57] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: ^^ bad tab experience .
[01:58] <ash_workz> ?
[01:58] <ash_workz> bad tab?
[01:58] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: try: ' sudo apt-get remove linux-{image,headers}-3.19.0-{25,26,28,30,31,33,39,43}-generic; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get autoremove ' is what I have  had the better success with .
[01:58] <ash_workz> OH! the auto-complete
[01:59] <ash_workz> 132 MB will be freed :)
[01:59] <ash_workz> k, done
[01:59] <ash_workz> at some point I will actually need to expand the space
[02:00] <ash_workz> because it's just ridiculous that this happens
[02:00] <davidwilliams> hi
[02:00] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: And did the -59 kernel insrall ? a new ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' .
[02:01] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: No on expanding ... just sometimes remove the old kernels . ' autoremove' should now do that for you .
[02:01] <ash_workz> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f0b3147a3a6e7aa1159ab4076ac9da25
[02:02] <ash_workz> in the past, the gui manager would complain about space and I'd be able to get around it by just doing apt-get upgrade from the terminal
[02:04] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: anyway I guess I should do a dist-upgrade now?
[02:05] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: I had expected the headers to also be removed in that last sequence . OK run ' sudo apt-get remove linux-headers-3.19.0-{25,26,28,30,31,33,39,43} ' . Then we do some fancy cleanup .
[02:06] <ash_workz> apparently npm is broken now :\
[02:06] <ash_workz> done
[02:07] <ash_workz> now auto-remove?
[02:07] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Wont hurt to see what it does .
[02:07] <ash_workz> nothing
[02:07] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: I mean, it didn't really do anything
[02:09] <ash_workz> looks like the headers are still there
[02:09] <ash_workz> erm
[02:09] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: I had not expected any result at thos time .. we already have all done that autoremove will do . // Now what results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' ?
[02:09] <Hala3ammi> how heavy is the latest LTS on CPU and mem ?
[02:09] <Hala3ammi> does anybody know
[02:09] <ash_workz> nvm; the headers aren't there  ^ ^;
[02:10] <ash_workz> full-upgrade is not available on my system
[02:10] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Let's run the updates ^^ then clean up .
[02:10] <ash_workz> updating...
[02:11] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[02:11] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: E: Invalid operation full-upgrade
[02:11] <ash_workz> I don't think full-upgrade came with 14.04
[02:12] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: is there still additional clean up to do
[02:12] <ash_workz> ?
[02:13] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Check typo ?? ' sudo apt full-upgrade ' . I just did it  in 14.04 .. and is valid .
[02:14] <Hala3ammi> k, lets ask this another way, minimum 16.04LTS requirements
[02:14] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Heads up " Preparing to unpack .../google-chrome-stable_51.0.2704.63-1_amd64.deb  " .
[02:14] <teo_> Hi
[02:15] <reisio> hi
[02:15] <reisio> Hala3ammi: not for nothing, but if you typed that into a web browser...
[02:15] <Hala3ammi> common man
[02:15] <teo_> how can I install qtox on ubuntu 16.04? I found repo debian on web but  there inst qtox program afterd add repo
[02:15] <Hala3ammi> off course I can use web browser but seriously
[02:16] <Hala3ammi> so this is high level stuff here ha ... well I see alot of very basic apt get chat going on
[02:16] <notDancer> hello, I'm experiencing a problem with my ubuntu
[02:16] <notDancer> can anyone here help me out :)
[02:17] <Bashing-om> !ask | notDancer
[02:17] <reisio> teo_: can try an older version on launchpad
[02:17] <notDancer> I just upgraded to 16.04 from 14.04 and my wifi isn't working. I can't see the "enable wireless" option on my laptop
[02:17] <reisio> teo_: or this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/423716/how-do-i-install-tox
[02:18] <notDancer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159334&page=2
[02:18] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: note, "apt full-upgrade" really should be required (9 times out of 10), infact it might lead to some problems :|  "apt upgrade" will do what "apt-get full-upgrade"/"apt-get distupgrade" use to do = update everything.
[02:18] <zykotick9> s/really should be/really shouldn't be/
[02:18] <notDancer> I followed the solution in the link I pasted above
[02:18] <teo_> ok
[02:19] <notDancer> Because my wifi adapter is ralink rt3290, and the problem is similar, so i tried following that solution
[02:19] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: K .. will keep that under advisement . I do agree .
[02:19] <notDancer> but I'm getting an error at the "make" step
[02:19] <notDancer> that is my problem. I'll just take screen shots of the error and share
[02:19] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Where are we at ? Ready to clean up ?
[02:20] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: sure are!
[02:20] <notDancer> sorry, I didn't notice that the whole question has to be in one line, will re ask
[02:20] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: let's have a gander at disk space now ' df -h '  first .
[02:21] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: OH! the -get was my typo
[02:21] <ash_workz> I did apt-get full-upgrade
[02:21] <ash_workz> anyway
[02:22] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/08e4e9bcb549388c93760610bfb54b78
[02:22] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: K .. apt is the revamped improved apt-get . takes a bit to adjust to apt .
[02:23] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: I see
[02:23] <ash_workz> I wonder if I will be using it to uninstall my broken npm
[02:24] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Wo-Hoo .. look'n good now ' dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' and a new look ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' . to see that all is now clean as a whistle .
[02:25] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: we look at npm here next ,,
[02:26] <notDancer> I just upgraded to 16.04 from 14.04 and my wifi isn't working. I can't see the "enable wireless" option on my laptop.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159334&page=2 .  I followed the solution in the link I pasted above, Because my wifi adapter is ralink rt3290, and the problem is similar, so i tried following that solution. I'm getting an error at the "make" step. This is a screenshot of the error message http://imgur.com/
[02:28] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7736a605219476d7c86ef21404b41808 -- nice
[02:28] <_44trent> i have a question, in a dual boot scenario with UEFI,does the windows boot manager would still function properly if ubuntu is removed?
[02:29] <_44trent> because i know on legacy grub fully takes over as the bootloader
[02:30] <_44trent> sometimes i wish there was a dedicated dualboot channel
[02:30] <prappl93> notDancer: your link to the screenshot is just a link to the main site for Imgur.
[02:31] <_44trent> there is a dualboot channel on freenode, but it has literally 4 people in it
[02:31] <drama> _44trent, #grub
[02:31] <_44trent> i'll ask them then
[02:32] <notDancer> prappl93, it is openeing the screenshot for me. Will try tiny pic. http://tinypic.com/r/dm9yt0/9
[02:33] <notDancer> prappl93: Sir, did this link work?
[02:33] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Yepper .. nice and clean . OK, what up with npm ?
[02:34] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: I thought I was getting errors upgrading, but I forgot that npm is part of the nodejs package
[02:35] <prappl93> notDancer: that worked for me, yes.
[02:35] <ash_workz> oh... huh... I guess... it is it's own thing?
[02:35] <ash_workz> and I guess I incidentally uninstalled it
[02:35] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Yeah npm is the package manager for Node.js . All good now ?
[02:36] <ash_workz> nope
[02:36] <ash_workz> :\
[02:36] <ash_workz> I get this when I try to do `sudo apt-get install npm` https://gist.github.com/anonymous/897e961dcf672aea938ae1ecb10a1e07
[02:37] <ash_workz> I am very confused... nodejs was uninstalled I guess ?_?
[02:39] <ash_workz> well I just did `sudo apt-get install nodejs` and it appeared to install (reinstall?) it said 1 to remove, 1 to install so I guess it reinstalled
[02:39] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Looks like it .. want it ? maybe try ' sudo apt install --reinstall nodejs ' .
[02:39] <ash_workz> anyway, now `sudo apt-get install npm` is giving me the same message
[02:39] <prappl93> notDancer: Please try running the solution in this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/545238/how-to-install-wifi-driver-ralink-rt3290
[02:40] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: done. And then I tried `sudo apt install --reinstall npm` and still yielding same errors
[02:40] <prappl93> It looks like it might be the same solution that you were trying, now that I see that under further inspection.
[02:42] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: show me the ' apt install --reinstall Node.js ' full output. See what the package manager is screaming about .
[02:42] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: `Node.js` ? not `nodejs` ?
[02:43] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: lowercase nodejs .
[02:45] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4dd090594a9d308b593570d507f86bd2
[02:45] <notDancer> prappl93: I have tried doing it. http://tinypic.com/r/dq5buv/9 This is the error message I'm getting after the second step. I have also tried the second solution in the link you provided, it ran without errors but didn't solve the issue.
[02:46] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: look'n .
[02:46] <ash_workz> guess I should run autoremove
[02:47] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: So far so good . what now ' dpkg -l npm ' ?
[02:48] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b75c84c30c39ac3b4b1872b8db2fd568
[02:49] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Try now to install ' sudo apt install npm ' .
[02:50] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b83987eaa8caebec84261787611098b2
[02:52] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Not making a lot of sense huh . what returns ' apt-cache policy nodejs ' .
[02:55] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2d75b6ff87875ce9cfdb6862deb4884c
[02:57] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: K .. I see what is now .. which version do tou inrend to use ? https://deb.nodesource.com/node_4.x/ or our repo ? can not have both .
[02:58] <Bashing-om> you intend**
[02:58] <ash_workz> ...?
[02:59] <ash_workz> I guess the most recent?
[02:59] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: You have installed nodejs from a PPA .. not supported here .
[03:00] <ash_workz> I'm surprised node is supported here at all o.o
[03:00] <ash_workz> but
[03:00] <ash_workz> I am happy to remove the ppa
[03:00] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | ash_workz
[03:01] <ash_workz> installing...
[03:02] <ash_workz> how do I list my ppas?
[03:02] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: ^
[03:02] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .
[03:05] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: When ppa-purge completes . make sure you also remove the source .
[03:05] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: I guess it's got to be this, right? deb https://deb.nodesource.com/node_4.x trusty main
[03:05] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Yepper .. that looks to ne it ^ .
[03:05] <Bashing-om> be*
[03:05] <ash_workz> oh, um... I don't know the repo/sub name?
[03:07] <ash_workz> Bashing-om:  https://deb.nodesource.com/node_4.x is the repo?
[03:08] <_44trent> is it a bad idea to install grub to my EFI partition?
[03:08] <_44trent> instead of sda i want it on sda1
[03:08] <_44trent> which is well, my EFI partition
[03:09] <EriC^^> follow your heart
[03:09] <_44trent> uhm, and what's that supossed to mean
[03:09] <_44trent> i was only asking because all the documentation on grub says NOT to install it to sda
[03:09] <_44trent> sda1 i mean
[03:10] <EriC^^> yeah that's for legacy
[03:10] <_44trent> since the EFI partition replaces mbr...
[03:10] <_44trent> yeah, the proper way is sda1 on EFI
[03:10] <EriC^^> yeah are you talking about the installer?
[03:10] <_44trent> yep
[03:11] <EriC^^> oh, leave it /dev/sda it'll know what to do
[03:11] <_44trent> okay
[03:12] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: IF you ran ppa purge, then yes remove " https://deb.nodesource.com/node_4.x " .
[03:13] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: oh, I guess the repo name is nodesource
[03:16] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: what I mean is I don't know the args for sudo ppa-purge ppa:?/?
[03:17] <ash_workz> do I just drop in the deb link?
[03:18] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: That one will take me a bit to find out .
[03:18] <ash_workz> well
[03:19] <ash_workz> I went to the setup file from that repo
[03:19] <EriC^^> you need repo/name format
[03:19] <ash_workz> rather
[03:19] <ash_workz> I went to that link
[03:19] <ash_workz> and read the readme
[03:19] <ash_workz> and checked the setup file
[03:20] <ash_workz> which would have appeared to have installed that nodesource.list file
[03:20] <ash_workz> but with the wrong version number (I guess)
[03:20] <ash_workz> mine says _4; it says _0.10
[03:20] <ash_workz> maybe a typo whenever I installed it
[03:21] <ash_workz> but w/e; I when I visit the deb url it redirects to git which lists the repo as nodesource/distributions
[03:21] <ash_workz> so I guess that then maybe :\
[03:21] <ash_workz> ?
[03:21] <ash_workz> EriC^^: ^ ?
[03:21] <_44trent> the documentation even says that grub should be installed to the EFI partition...man i'm dumb, it was right there in the documentation
[03:22] <ash_workz> _44trent: I'd like to say that it happens to the best of us, but I can't say from experience XD
[03:22] <_44trent> at least this isn't as stupid as the time i actually deleted the efi partition in gparted, somehow mistaking it as my thumb drive
[03:22] <_44trent> even though i wasn't even in sdb
[03:22] <_44trent> yeah, that happend
[03:23] <_44trent> with a little help from here and some chrooting i fixed that though
[03:23] <EriC^^> ash_workz: how'd you install the ppa?
[03:23] <_44trent> the fact i even managed to delete the EFI partition that was clearly labelled "EFI" in gparted falls in the top 10 list of stupidest things i've ever done
[03:24] <_44trent> the only other thing i've done that was dumber than that was snapping my old graphics card in the PCI port
[03:25] <ash_workz> EriC^^: I don't remember
[03:25] <_44trent> thank god i was replacing the graphics card, but it was a pain in the but to get the PCI connector out of the slot
[03:26] <EriC^^> ash_workz: how long ago did you install it?
[03:26] <EriC^^> ctrl+r sudo add-apt
[03:26] <ash_workz> EriC^^: once upon a time?
[03:27] <ash_workz> EriC^^: like 2 months ago I guess :\
[03:27] <EriC^^> oh
[03:29] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Looks promising : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5650169/uninstall-node-js-using-linux-command-line . But depending on how you installed nodejs .
[03:30] <ash_workz> should I just try ppa-purge on nodesource/distributions ?
[03:30] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: ^ ?
[03:33] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: From what I see .. nodejs will not suppprt ppa-purge . Looks like a manual removal . " sudo npm rm npm -g " MIGHT " be the ticket .
[03:33] <EriC^^> ash_workz: what's the link of the ppa?
[03:33] <EriC^^> we'll try to make something like ppa-purge that works for links
[03:35] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Working from https://deb.nodesource.com/node_4.x for ash_workz .
[03:35] <EriC^^> ash_workz: ok try grep -B1 "ok installed" status | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | xargs apt-cache policy | grep -B4 "500.*node"
[03:36] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: result: unbuild<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:37] <ash_workz> EriC^^: result: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/cf1e24db8333b3a28b447e0e1c49eafe
[03:37] <Lugal> hi
[03:38] <EriC^^> ash_workz: oops
[03:38] <EriC^^> ash_workz: ok try grep -B1 "ok installed" /var/lib/dpkg/ status | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | xargs apt-cache policy | grep -B4 "500.*node"
[03:38] <Lugal> how can I compress all folders from one directory into different tar.xz archives with a terminal command?  so for example to make 10 archives from 10 folders, and not all in one.
[03:38] <EriC^^> ash_workz: ok try grep -B1 "ok installed" /var/lib/dpkg/status | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | xargs apt-cache policy | grep -B4 "500.*node"
[03:39] <EriC^^> oh sorry again
[03:39] <EriC^^> ash_workz: ok try grep -B1 "ok installed" /var/lib/dpkg/status | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | xargs apt-cache policy | grep -B6 "500.*node"
[03:39] <ash_workz> EriC^^: result: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2fc6351fc191a75a8012eaddf8dcd081
[03:40] <EriC^^> ok looks like there's just one package installed by that ppa
[03:40] <EriC^^> try with the last command to get the name
[03:40] <ash_workz> EriC^^: result: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/22b8b612ad3ed1b93e9867856bac5157
[03:42] <EriC^^> ok, let's see which packages depend on nodejs
[03:43] <EriC^^> grep "^Depends.*nodejs" /var/lib/dpkg/status
[03:45] <ash_workz> EriC^^: no output
[03:45] <toani> k
[03:45] <EriC^^> ok good
[03:45] <toani> hi there
[03:45] <toani> anyone online
[03:46] <EriC^^> ash_workz: type sudo apt-get purge nodejs
[03:46] <ash_workz> oh, btw; that repo name I got from going to ../ from the deb link: https://deb.nodesource.com/node_4.x/
[03:46] <ash_workz> EriC^^: trying...
[03:46] <ash_workz> EriC^^: dpkg: warning: while removing nodejs, directory '/usr/lib/node_modules' not empty so not removed
[03:47] <EriC^^> ash_workz: np i guess, type cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and also comment out the repo
[03:47] <EriC^^> then sudo apt-get update
[03:48] <ash_workz> EriC^^: comment out the repo?
[03:49] <EriC^^> yeah put a "#" at the start of the line that says deb and deb-src (if there)
[03:49] <ash_workz> EriC^^: file?
[03:50] <EriC^^> should be in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:50] <EriC^^> should be in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[03:50] <ash_workz> EriC^^: should I just delete the file?
[03:50] <ash_workz> EriC^^: those are the only 2 lines on nodesource.list
[03:51] <ash_workz> EriC^^: I kind of thought there was some tool that would remove that file (along with anything else that needs to be removed with it)
[03:52] <EriC^^> ash_workz: yeah you can
[03:53] <EriC^^> ash_workz: there's ppa-purge but it doesn't work with links
[03:54] <ash_workz> EriC^^: should I remove the save file too?
[03:54] <EriC^^> yeah
[03:55] <ash_workz> EriC^^: anything else I need to do to complete the removal of that repo?
[03:56] <Lugal> how can I compress all folders from one directory into different tar.xz archives with a terminal command?
[03:56] <Gallomimia> Lugal i think you'd have use a for loop
[03:56] <EriC^^> ash_workz: no, just run apt-get update after
[03:57] <ash_workz> EriC^^: should I be using just apt for that now?
[03:57] <Gallomimia> something like for each $folder in $(ls directory) tar -cfz $folder $folder.tar.xz
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> !tar | Lugal
[03:57] <Guest53691> i'm on a live system. how can I access my old ~/ without needing to sudo $filebrowser?
[03:57] <EriC^^> ash_workz: same thing i guess
[03:58] <EriC^^> Guest53691: sudo $filebrowser is fine in a live system
[03:58] <ash_workz> k, I guess I'll try to reinstall nodejs now... I suppose
[03:58] <somsip> ash_workz: which ppa will you use this time?
[03:58] <ash_workz> somsip: hopefully the right one?
[03:58] <Gallomimia> Guest53691: you'd have to change the owner or group of the directory. then you'd have to change it back once you get back later
[03:59] <Gallomimia> i don't really recommend that
[03:59] <somsip> ash_workz: vague answer... FWIW, this has been stable for me for a while https://launchpad.net/~chris-lea/+archive/ubuntu/node.js/
[04:00] <ash_workz> I just did sudo apt install --reinstall nodejs
[04:00] <somsip> !info nodejs
[04:00] <Lugal> Gallomimia, how exactly? I dont really know how to work with variables in terminal
[04:01] <Lugal> supposed I am already in the directory where the others are
[04:01] <ash_workz> EriC^^: still getting depends errors trying to install npm
[04:01] <somsip> ash_workz: nodejs tends to develop quite quickly, so you wont get upgrades. If you want them, PPA is needed. But PPAs should be used with care as you've found out, so what ever is best for you
[04:01] <Gallomimia> Lugal: well i gave you a rudamentary go of it. i'm sure the tar command would be badly formed
[04:02] <Gallomimia> the simple way of doing a for loop is for each $pickavariablename in somelist
[04:02] <Gallomimia> uh... i'm forgetting something
[04:02] <Gallomimia> ah yes. at the end of the list put a ;
[04:02] <Gallomimia> then put the word do
[04:02] <Gallomimia> a command with the variable in it
[04:02] <Gallomimia> then another ; and the word done
[04:03] <Gallomimia> for the list you'd have it execute ls .
[04:03] <Gallomimia> with substitution that looks like $(ls .)
[04:04] <user_br> hi
[04:04] <Gallomimia> hello user_br
[04:04] <ash_workz> hmm
[04:04] <ash_workz> I dunno what's going on
[04:04] <Gallomimia> Lugal: if you're more interested in learning about the command line, i recommend the book called "The Linux Command Line" it's a pdf book, free online just google it
[04:05] <Gallomimia> there's also the #bash channel
[04:05] <user_br> how I clear my system?
[04:05] <Gallomimia> what?
[04:05] <ash_workz> apt install npm throws errors but which npm shows the command
[04:05] <Gallomimia> "clear" your system?
[04:05] <Gallomimia> sounds like a dangerous procedure. why do you want to do that user_br ?
[04:05] <srir4m> hey
[04:05] <Gallomimia> hay is or horses
[04:05] <Gallomimia> for*
[04:05] <Gallomimia> doh ><
[04:06] <srir4m> how do i remove preinstalled stuff...
[04:06] <srir4m> without removing the ubuntu-mate-core package
[04:06] <user_br> sorry...how do I maintenance in my system?
[04:06] <user_br> :D
[04:06] <dreamaddict> how can I remap/unmap Alt+TAB?  I don't want the dashboard whatever...actually, all I'd really like is for Emacs to be able to hear Alt+TAB
[04:07] <iku-iku> hello, I'm looking for a driver for the following printer: Kyocera LS-6970DN KX. Thank you for your support =)
[04:08] <user_br> everyone?
[04:08] <Gallomimia> user_br: it's tough to understand what you're asking. perhaps if english is not your first language, you'd be better off finding the channel that speaks yours?
[04:09] <Gallomimia> dreamaddict: in the keyboard control panel i do believe
[04:09] <Gallomimia> there's a tab marked shortcuts
[04:09] <dreamaddict> is there a way to prioritize a keystroke for an application such as Emacs, so that if Emacs has "focus" or whatever it is, it can hear and react to Alt-TAB before Unity
[04:10] <Gallomimia> i'm not sure really. if there is i'm sure it's complicated
[04:10] <user_br> how do I delete invalid repositories?
[04:10] <reisio> dreamaddict: you can move your shortcut to something separate from both, and have it query the window in focus before acting
[04:11] <reisio> xbindkeys + wmctrl would be one way
[04:11] <dreamaddict> I am not sure what "something separate from both" would look like
[04:11] <dreamaddict> ok some thingy like that
[04:11] <dreamaddict> in this case it sounds like my time would be better spent binding the key in Emacs, so that I just don't have to type Alt-TAB
[04:11] <reisio> actually you can probably map alt+tab in Unity (compiz) to a script as well
[04:12] <reisio> although I imagine the least inefficient way would be to listen for window changes, and disable alt+tab where you don't wan it when emacs is focused, and re-enable when unfocused
[04:12] <dreamaddict> that's what I would think
[04:13] <dreamaddict> like, have a list with "exceptions" like Emacs in this case, and have that list be checked before the UI gets a hold of the key
[04:13] <Ben64> or just.... pick a different shortcut
[04:13] <dreamaddict> yeah I'm just going to bend Emacs
[04:14] <dreamaddict> still it's nice to know these kind of things
[04:21] <reisio> actually since most window changes will be via alt+tab anyway, that much is easily controlled
[04:22] <reisio> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/214921/getting-notified-about-window-title-changes :)
[04:22] <reisio> I s'pose modifying the wm would be simplest, though
[04:27] <Guest48427> hi guys!
[04:42] <beecee> my first irc!
[04:43] <baizon> beecee: good job
[04:43] <beecee> baizon: thx!
[04:45] <beecee> can anybody answer questions on a live cd fresh install?
[04:46] <beecee> I got a hand me down Sony Vaio which previously had dual boot XP and Ubuntu.
[04:46] <baizon> beecee: and whats the question?
[04:47] <beecee> baizon: I'm trying a fresh install, Live -CD. I went into Bios to change boot order but not working.
[04:47] <baizon> beecee: did you made a proper liveCD?
[04:48] <beecee> baizon: yes, before I got the hand me down vaio, I installed w/same live-CD. For some reason, it's not working.
[04:49] <baizon> beecee: how did you made that livecd?
[04:49] <beecee> baizon: I've read a few threads that ppl have an issue where they try a fresh install & it messes w/something.
[04:50] <beecee> baizon: i made it from the dual boot on the XP.
[04:51] <utopiah> hey #ubuntu any feedback on sound and the HP Stream11? Worked well on 15.* (cf own post https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/3m6ncb/hp_stream_11_with_ubuntu_1510/ ) but lost it on 16.04
[04:51] <beecee> baizon: the live cd was made on a dvd-r cd.
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> utopiah: did you upgrade to 16.04 from wily?
[04:53] <beecee> baizon: also, I used the same live-cd to to just boot ubuntu and wipe XP.
[04:53] <beecee> I've tried changing the bios back to default and re-try boot order and still nothing.
[04:54] <utopiah> lotuspsychje: from 15.10
[04:55] <beecee> baizon: also, i've tried changing bios back to default and retry boot order and still nothing.
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> utopiah: could you try a 16.04 liveusb, to see if your issue persist?
[04:56] <destinydriven> how can I get support for my kingston usb 3.0 flash drive formatted as exfat?
[04:57] <srir4m> guys
[04:57] <srir4m> im using gdm3
[04:57] <srir4m> but whenever i lock the desktop...lightdm lock screen pops out
[04:57] <srir4m> what should i do
[04:57] <destinydriven> it either throws io errors or if I copy something . . .  I can't retrieve it.
[04:58] <destinydriven> the same drive works flawlessly on windows
[04:58] <reisio> destinydriven: what capacity?
[04:59] <destinydriven> 64GB
[05:00] <reisio> think I'd use NTFS for such a drive, if I wanted to share it with random Windows boxes
[05:00] <destinydriven> reisio, was about to say that I tried NTFS before . . same issue
[05:02] <reisio> laptop?
[05:02] <reisio> what version of ubuntu?
[05:02] <destinydriven> reisio, correct. HP Pavilion dv7t
[05:02] <destinydriven> reisio, 16.04
[05:03] <destinydriven> issue was around with 15.10 as well
[05:04] <reisio> destinydriven: you might try disabling usb 3 support, just to see if doing so might suggest a problem with the usb 3 driver (software)
[05:04] <destinydriven> reisio, ok will do
[05:05] <beecee> Noob just wondering if there are any channels just on bios/boot order sequence/prioroties help?
[05:05] <utopiah> lotuspsychje: that's an idea... would take some time but ok
[05:06] <reisio> other things you can do: poke around in bios for usb things, update bios, update kernel, downgrade kernel, build xhci as module instead of built-in, build xhci as built-in instead of as module
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> utopiah: probably an upgrade issue, so not very hard to make a 16.04 liveusb
[05:06] <reisio> beecee: I doubt it, here or #linux should suffice
[05:06] <reisio> beecee: generally: /msg alis list *bios*
[05:06] <reisio> but I doubt you'll get anything
[05:06] <reisio> (for 'bios')
[05:07] <beecee> reisio: thx for input.
[05:07] <destinydriven> reisio, bios is up to date for sure
[05:07] <reisio> destinydriven: actually, what you should start with is a live OS from another distro
[05:08] <reisio> destinydriven: that's the ultimate litmus test
[05:08] <beecee> reisio: trying to figure out why boot order priorities/sequence not working when it worked before w/same live-cd. trying a fresh install on a hand me down.
[05:08] <destinydriven> reisio, true.  I should have a debian disk somewhere . . or is that too close to ubuntu?
[05:08] <reisio> destinydriven: https://is.gd/uxukox
[05:09] <reisio> ^ nice and different
[05:09] <reisio> if it works fine on another distro, then it's almost certainly a (specific) kernel(/driver) issue
[05:09] <destinydriven> kool thanks
[05:09] <reisio> destinydriven: you could even try ubuntu 14, if you say it only started with 15
[05:10] <utopiah> lotuspsychje: what I failed to mention is that I did have sound after the upgrade to 16.04!
[05:10] <utopiah> I remember sounding silly to a conference on Monday because I forgot to turn it off so it did work
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> utopiah: so you lost after an upgrade or so?
[05:10] <utopiah> yes
[05:10] <utopiah> I mean after the upgrade it worked
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> utopiah: aha, try a previous kernel or a pulseaudio restart
[05:11] <oldtopman> I just installed the nvidia drivers for my graphics card, but I'm getting a black screen at the login screen.
[05:11] <oldtopman> The splash ubuntu logos on reboot/shutdown work, as well as the tty consoles. Ideas?
[05:11] <destinydriven> reisio, yeah  it only happens on the USB 3.0 ports
[05:11] <destinydriven> sucks that I can't get support for this (usb 3.0)
[05:13] <reisio> destinydriven: if you feel you're remembering that it worked with 14 right, then confirm that with a live OS (make sure it's using xhci)
[05:13] <utopiah> weird... it works again, very confused
[05:13] <utopiah> :/
[05:13] <reisio> destinydriven: after that you can try a different OS with a modern (similar to 15/16) kernel, like the one I linked you
[05:14] <utopiah> since Im heading to a hackathon in few hours and do not want to play with the config I won't touch anything and will investigate further after, thanks lotuspsychje for the help :)
[05:14] <destinydriven> yeah, I will definitely try with another OS live CD
[05:14] <beecee> Does anyone have an idea of what to check when boot order/sequence doesn't work on a live-cd when it worked before? Like process of elimination?
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> utopiah: didnt do nothing, but glad you sorted
[05:14] <reisio> beecee: the live OS won't boot?
[05:14] <utopiah> lotuspsychje: you listened and offered solutions which is already helpful
[05:16] <beecee> reisio: No. It worked before. I used same live-cd to wipe out the dual boot xp-ubuntu. The same pc was given to me and I want a fresh install and doesn't work.
[05:16] <reisio> beecee: actualy CD?
[05:16] <reisio> actual*
[05:17] <beecee> reisio: It's a maxell DVD-R cd.
[05:17] <pooka> alllo
[05:17] <pooka> hi
[05:18] <pooka> this is my first linux computer
[05:18] <reisio> beecee: CDs degrade
[05:19] <reisio> beecee: would by my first guess; does it boot on another computer?
[05:19] <Hetr0Erectus> my next computer is probably going to be a high end chromebook, then format it and install linux
[05:19] <Hetr0Erectus> want QHD or 4k screen though
[05:19] <reisio> low ends are pretty nice
[05:19] <reisio> 4k, heh
[05:19] <pooka> so many games I played before will not play on this OS
[05:19] <codfection> chrome book has chrome OS linux <3
[05:19] <Hetr0Erectus> have a surface pro so im spoiled screenwise
[05:19] <reisio> pooka: like what?
[05:19] <oldtopman> Anyone familiar with black-screen logins?
[05:19] <pooka> BBC2
[05:20] <reisio> codfection: most you can swap the OS, but not all
[05:20] <codfection> which is officially supported by google.. LINUX maintained by google wow
[05:20] <beecee> reisio: Odd. the cd was burned less than 3 mos ago and trying to use it now.
[05:20] <reisio> Hetr0Erectus: got the fanless one?
[05:20] <Hetr0Erectus> codfection, linux is way more usable though
[05:20] <Hetr0Erectus> no... old surface pro 3
[05:20] <codfection> Chrome OS is linux kernal based Hetr0Erectus
[05:20] <reisio> I'm lusting after a fanless surface
[05:20] <Hetr0Erectus> chrome os is getting android apps to the OS this summer btw.. wonder if that means android apps on ubuntu
[05:20] <beecee> reisio: Don't know if it can boot from another pc becuz don't have another pc to try.
[05:20] <pooka> Airborne
[05:20] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: What hardware ' lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' ?  In a pastebin, please .
[05:20] <codfection> Chrome OS = Linux maintained by Google. == gg !
[05:20] <reisio> beecee: attempting to boot it from a different computer would quickly give you a large suggestion as to whether it is the physical medium
[05:21] <reisio> beecee: mmm, well
[05:21] <reisio> beecee: you should probably decide how curious you are about the why VS what it is you're trying to accomplish
[05:21] <Hetr0Erectus> codfection, yea but its still "closed" and under google ... i prefer a regular linux distro
[05:21] <reisio> beecee: you said you want to install from it?
[05:21] <pooka> Is there a way to play BBC2 with Wine?
[05:21] <reisio> pooka: bbc2?
[05:21] <pooka> battlefield bad company 2
[05:22] <codfection> OS X has more features than ubuntu and applications support, even thou its closed source. so yea.
[05:22] <Hetr0Erectus> having a nice screen and good speakers is alfa omega and the stuff i look for above all in a laptop / tablet
[05:22] <beecee> reisio: I want a fresh install to wipe out what previous owner had on pc.
[05:22] <reisio> pooka: yes: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=11035
[05:22] <reisio> beecee: and what OS did the previous owner have?
[05:22] <pooka> wow TY VM!
[05:22] <reisio> codfection: quite impossible
[05:22]  * reisio eats omega sprouts
[05:23] <codfection> reisio, would you see professionals at work using Linux as desktop / laptop power?
[05:23] <codfection> I highly doubt that
[05:23] <codfection> its most probably OS X
[05:23] <Hetr0Erectus> ubuntu does what i need
[05:23] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: http://www.hastebin.com/gulezojaqi.sm
[05:23] <reisio> I wouldn't see a professional anywhere using Mac OS, so there's that...
[05:24] <codfection> Hetr0Erectus, for work too?
[05:24] <Hetr0Erectus> yeah
[05:24] <reisio> you might be confusing paying twice as much with professionalism
[05:24] <reisio> I used GNU/Linux at my last job
[05:24] <codfection> reisio, mate. I am talking about conferences and highly skilled players.
[05:24] <reisio> in an office, surrounded by Windows computers
[05:24] <beecee> reisio: the vaio 1st had XP, then I installed (dual boot w/ ubuntu) then wiped out xp hand only ubuntu.
[05:24] <reisio> I'd say my efficiency was roughly 87,000% higher than my coworkers :p
[05:24] <reisio> codfection: you're cute :p
[05:24] <jn_jn> hi how can I change a specific application color in ubuntu with unity? like hexchat, I've already a dark theme but for hexchat the color theme is the same as default. (i do not mean the colorscheme of the chat but the window theme) ty all
[05:25] <Hetr0Erectus> however, the other computers at the business is win because a label printing program wont run under linux :/
[05:25] <reisio> beecee: well if you don't have another cd, dvd, or a usb stick, you can always boot an install image from the existing installation's GRUB
[05:25] <codfection> Google and Facebook IT geeks using MACbooks and MACS :)
[05:25] <reisio> Hetr0Erectus: labelflash?
[05:25] <codfection> Professionals*
[05:25] <codfection> :)
[05:25] <Hetr0Erectus> nah norwegian one
[05:25] <reisio> lightscribe?
[05:25] <reisio> oh, not for CDs, prob
[05:25] <reisio> libreoffice has label templates, IIRC
[05:25] <Hetr0Erectus> no ... not that kind of labels.. labels for shipping packages
[05:25] <Hetr0Erectus> using our mail system
[05:26] <reisio> jn_jn: that's probably GTK+ version 2 vs version 3
[05:26] <beecee> reisio: ooh! That's new to me? How?
[05:26] <reisio> jn_jn: you'll want to coordinate themes for each, or make a combined theme, etc.
[05:26] <Hetr0Erectus> with ||5225||74224|| code etc
[05:26] <reisio> beecee: is it a recent Ubuntu, or super ancient?
[05:26] <Hetr0Erectus> so you have to have it.. asked if a linux version is coming.. nope
[05:26] <codfection> Hetr0Erectus, exactly like I said.
[05:26] <reisio> Hetr0Erectus: ah
[05:26] <reisio> can't imagine having to use win32 nonsense for such a technical task
[05:26] <reisio> :p
[05:26] <jn_jn> reisio, actually in gtk2 folder there is nothing inside
[05:27] <reisio> beecee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[05:27] <beecee> reisio: recent. ubuntu lts, pangolin.
[05:27] <codfection> I like ubuntu my self and using it on different laptop but to be honest its not very mature for work use, yet.
[05:27] <Hetr0Erectus> its connected to the mail system via encrypted link etc
[05:27] <reisio> codfection: "work"?
[05:27] <Hetr0Erectus> cant use any sort of linux program for it
[05:27] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: OK.. hybrid graphics, and for that card Nvidia recommends the 361 version driver . what have you installed ? show ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .
[05:27] <reisio> jn_jn: like I said
[05:27] <codfection> reisio, IT work.. Reliability and apps support as compared to OS X
[05:27] <reisio> Hetr0Erectus: sure you can, but better to replace it all :p
[05:27] <beecee> reisio: thx for link! on my way!
[05:27] <reisio> codfection: I s'pose you have some scientific measurement of reliability to back up this absurd claim? :)
[05:28] <codfection> it doesn't even have latest Microsoft office.
[05:28] <jn_jn> reisio, TY :D
[05:28] <reisio> thought not, thanks for playing
[05:28] <codfection> LibreOffice is good but not like MS Office
[05:28] <xangua> Lol
[05:28] <reisio> yeah it has a reliable UI
[05:28] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: http://www.hastebin.com/jesalegese.hs
[05:28] <reisio> unlike ms office :p
[05:29] <Hetr0Erectus> man i wish linux would get rid of all bugs, a descent photoshop clone thats better than gimp, more games and more users... then id be happy.. prettiest desktop must be gnome .. unity second.. kde third.. but most usable desktop is mate
[05:29] <oldtopman> This is on 14.04LTS, by the way. Somewhere along the lines of updating everything and whatnot, this happened.
[05:29] <Hetr0Erectus> which i run
[05:29] <codfection> every entrepreneur I have seen is using OS X
[05:29] <codfection> reisio,
[05:29] <reisio> codfection: you've confused 'entrepreneur' with 'wearer of a cardigan'
[05:29] <codfection> maybe they prefer getting their worked done as quickly as possible.
[05:29] <reisio> not that 'entrepreneur' means much even for those who know what it means
[05:29] <somsip> !contribute | Hetr0Erectus ('cos otherwise it just seems like your whingeing)
[05:29] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: 352 version has some problems sometimes .. what release are you running ?
[05:30] <reisio> codfection: maybe someone drew apples on your glasses
[05:30] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: 14.04lts
[05:30] <Hetr0Erectus> somsip, i contribute but i cant code
[05:30] <codfection> reisio, I hate their price but I admire their quality of softwares.
[05:31] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: K .. that 361 version driver is not available in the repo .. want to use our trusted PPA and install 361 ?
[05:31] <reisio> codfection: you couldn't even enumerate them
[05:31] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: Go for it.
[05:31] <Hetr0Erectus> somsip: to take on photoshop you need a major corp or gov behind it anyway
[05:32] <Hetr0Erectus> if chinese gov said hey lets beat those murricans and pour 50 mill usd over gimp and krita, things would get done-
[05:32] <reisio> "things" of indeterminate quality
[05:32] <reisio> you think GIMP is missing something?
[05:32] <Hetr0Erectus> im talking high end quality.. cause thats what it would take to beat photoshop
[05:33] <codfection> reisio, compare it to adobe products? hehe
[05:33] <reisio> "quality" is not tangible, be specific
[05:33] <Hetr0Erectus> dont give me that.. try photoshop and compare to gimp
[05:33] <reisio> I'm in frontend web development, professionally, for more than a decade
[05:33] <reisio> I prefer GIMP
[05:33] <reisio> got any specifics then?
[05:33] <xangua> There's a Gimp fork that replaces gimp shortcuts with Photoshop
[05:33] <xangua> Hetr0Erectus:
[05:33] <reisio> there is indeed
[05:33] <codfection> reisio, I doubt that ur main and only OS is linux for frontend web development
[05:34] <Hetr0Erectus> well i used to do graphics in school with photoshop, im not able to create the same graphics in gimp ... stuff like plastic wrap.. remember that one?
[05:34] <reisio> codfection: that's nice
[05:34] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: Which ppa are you referring to? Also, will nvidia-prime help at all?
[05:34] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: do : ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-361 nvidia-prime ; sudo reboot ' . This is assuming that you do  not have another driver PPA on the system .
[05:34] <reisio> Hetr0Erectus: so the things that photoshop does on its own that have nothing to do with your skill as a manipulator of graphics
[05:34] <codfection> reisio, "with power comes price"
[05:34] <codfection> reisio, "nothing good is for free"
[05:34] <jn_jn> reisio, all done :D was simple
[05:34] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: Hybrid graphics, nvidia-prime is required to control the different graphics sets .
[05:35] <Hetr0Erectus> im just saying, photoshop is branch standard for a reason
[05:35] <reisio> jn_jn: gj
[05:35] <reisio> jn_jn: what'd you pick?
[05:35] <reisio> Hetr0Erectus: yeah it came earlier, and people are addicted to paying for things
[05:35] <reisio> for example, you and codfection :p
[05:35] <codfection> reisio, paying for quality you mean?
[05:36] <reisio> think I said 'things'
[05:36] <jn_jn> reisio, adwaitadark theme
[05:36] <reisio> jn_jn: that for 2 & 3?
[05:36] <jn_jn> 2
[05:36] <reisio> what for 3, then?
[05:36] <Hetr0Erectus> reisio: no matter what you say ... gimp is not on pair with photoshop ... illustrator is comparable to inkscape, sure... hexchat beats mirc... you can say that.. but gimp is NOT on pair with photoshop.. no way
[05:36] <reisio> default?
[05:36] <jn_jn> i was already made a theme for 3
[05:36] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: "Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa'.
[05:36] <jn_jn> reisio, sry my bad english
[05:36] <reisio> Hetr0Erectus: when you can think of an example of how it isn't, I'll be happy to prove you wrong
[05:37] <reisio> jn_jn: cool, just curious
[05:37] <reisio> and please don't apologize to me about English
[05:37] <reisio> I don't speak two languages
[05:37] <Hetr0Erectus> its like saying kompozer is on pair with dreamweaver
[05:37] <Hetr0Erectus> sure you can create nice looking webpages in both... but theyre far off from eachother
[05:37] <reisio> think you mean 'par'
[05:37] <Hetr0Erectus> yeah
[05:37] <reisio> you can't create nice looking webpages in either :p
[05:37] <jn_jn> reisio, lol ok nice to meet u all
[05:37] <xangua> Gimp saved my ass the other day, always does
[05:37] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: Wonder why ? show ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .
[05:37] <reisio> they rather are on par, IMO, they both suck
[05:38] <Hetr0Erectus> however, for most usage, gimp is fine
[05:38] <Hetr0Erectus> i use gimp
[05:38] <reisio> course you do, it's great
[05:38] <Hetr0Erectus> im just not able to replicate the same stuff i made in photoshop
[05:38] <reisio> Hetr0Erectus: like what?
[05:38] <Hetr0Erectus> well .. i mentioned the simple tool in photoshop earlier, plastic wrap
[05:38] <jn_jn> Hetr0Erectus, yes try to make a seamless texture with photoshop ahah it's a pain in the ass
[05:38] <codfection> but I love linux coz its for free
[05:38] <Guest2348> Hi every one
[05:38] <reisio> Hetr0Erectus: got a link to a plastic wrap example?
[05:39] <reisio> jn_jn: gimp have a filter/plugin for that?
[05:39] <Guest2348> In my system sound symbol is not showing up in taskbar
[05:39] <codfection> broke people with 20 years old laptop can still rock solid on linux
[05:39] <Hetr0Erectus> not here now ... maybe later... i havent slept tonight and its 07 in the morning :o
[05:39] <Hetr0Erectus> im too tired
[05:39] <jn_jn> reisio, of course
[05:39] <reisio> Hetr0Erectus: :p ninite
[05:39] <xangua> 🌛
[05:40] <reisio> xangua: twss
[05:40] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: What am I looking for in them>
[05:40] <Hetr0Erectus> nah .. had a bad headache yesterday and slept all day, and throat is sore .. think i got some kind of flu or something
[05:40] <Hetr0Erectus> im fine
[05:40] <Hetr0Erectus> just tired
[05:40] <reisio> jn_jn: 'Make Seamless'?
[05:40] <codfection> Hetr0Erectus, same here. sore throats + headaches + body aches etc.
[05:40] <codfection> you took anti biotics ?
[05:40] <Hetr0Erectus> yep
[05:40] <jn_jn> reisio, yep and with some tweak you can improve the image
[05:40] <Hetr0Erectus> not yet.. got this yesterday
[05:41] <reisio> hrmmm
[05:41] <Hetr0Erectus> if i stay in bed and sleep lots maybe it'll pass
[05:41] <jn_jn> reisio, with photoshop is not so simple
[05:41] <codfection> yea
[05:41] <codfection> Hetr0Erectus, get well soon to both of us
[05:41] <codfection> hehe
[05:41] <reisio> I don't deal with that much, there's a simple tool I used to use for it
[05:42] <reisio> it would basically stretch and/or repeat and/or fade in/out on x & y axes independently until you had it look the way you wanted
[05:42] <Hetr0Erectus> yup :) however though.. other than photoshop and dreamweaver i wont argue with the rest of apps on linux.. linux is even better than win for video editing and music
[05:42] <reisio> better for fixing almost-pattern images, I guess
[05:42] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: If there is the target PPA already installed ..or perhaps driver PPA another .
[05:42] <jn_jn> reisio, also for generate normal map, with photoshop you have to download a plugin from nvidia
[05:43] <Hetr0Erectus> and besides, gimp has its cousin krita
[05:43] <reisio> jn_jn: mmm, interesting
[05:43] <reisio> there are lots of native alternatives to gimp
[05:43] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: I don't have any ppas installed right now though.
[05:43] <reisio> even ones you can pay for if that's your thing
[05:44] <Hetr0Erectus> havent found "lots of" .. theres krita ... mypaint sort of but not really a pro tool like krita or gimp
[05:44] <jn_jn> reisio, like krita?
[05:44] <Guest2348> can i know how to configured Outlook in Ubuntu
[05:44] <Hetr0Erectus> pinta isnt worth mentioning
[05:44] <Hetr0Erectus> darktable and rawtherapee are good
[05:44] <reisio> jn_jn: krita's gratis, IIRC
[05:44] <jn_jn> i don't think krita is better than gimp, is good only for the x mirror
[05:44] <Hetr0Erectus> if you think about those kind of apps
[05:44] <reisio> but otherwise yes; someone already mentioned it
[05:44] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: K, then I can not imagime why the system balks at ' sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ' unless there is a typo somewhere , My end looks good to me .
[05:45] <Hetr0Erectus> jn_jn, i think it depends on what you do .. for painting i think krita's better
[05:45] <reisio> if there were a good frontend to imagemagick, that'd probably be the ultimate
[05:45] <oldtopman> aaand now it's working. huh
[05:45] <jn_jn> anyway yes depends on your needs, for make texture use gimp til i die
[05:45] <reisio> course bitmaps are a bit passé
[05:46] <Hetr0Erectus> but graphics these days often splash photos, painting and effects together
[05:46] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: ,, :)
[05:46] <Hetr0Erectus> thats why photoshop is the king
[05:46] <jn_jn> Hetr0Erectus, disagree with you
[05:47] <Hetr0Erectus> you can disagree all you want, but thats my opinion
[05:47] <jn_jn> Hetr0Erectus, try make a macro or aplugin in photoshop... good luck
[05:48] <Hetr0Erectus> try 3d in gimp .. good luck
[05:48] <jn_jn> 3d? photoshop? we speak the same stuff?
[05:48] <Hetr0Erectus> yeah
[05:48] <Hetr0Erectus> theres blender though
[05:48] <jn_jn> ddo isn't photoshop
[05:48] <hateball> !ot
[05:49] <Hetr0Erectus> ok ... we'll agree to disagree.. eod :)
[05:49] <jn_jn> :|
[05:51] <jn_jn> anyway bye all come back to work have a nice day
[05:59] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: Still goes to black screen :/
[06:00] <oldtopman> dmesg is full of "argument #4 type mismatches"
[06:02] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: Ouch ! Well then the log file to look at is ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' . Into a pastebin; see if it is a driver issue .
[06:05] <oldtopman> http://www.hastebin.com/vojavohuzo.coffee
[06:05] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: ^
[06:06] <oldtopman> I think it was the kernel update that killed it.
[06:06] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: Reading .. I be a while /
[06:07] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: so far so good . " (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  361.45.11  Tue May 17 17:44:39 PDT 2016 " .
[06:09] <oldtopman> I mean, it's got to be kind of working - the Ubuntu splash screen comes up on boot and shutdown
[06:10] <oldtopman> Also, I'd even be happy to go back to straight nouveau, I just want the gui working again :P
[06:17] <hicoleri> I tried to modify the default error handler (love.errhand) but my game immediately exits after launching. The same thing happens when I simply copy paste the default error handler. why is that?
[06:18] <hicoleri> oh whoops wrong channel
[06:18] <hicoleri> sorry
[06:19] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: Reinstall time?
[06:20] <gbell_> The intel driver is unstable on my Trusty system.  When I see xserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-wily, is that the backported driver?  Doesn't look like simple swap-in :)
[06:21] <Seveas> gbell_: the name does indeed suggest a backported driver.
[06:21] <gbell_> Great, thanks.  aptitude reports lots of potential conflicts... would it be easier to just compile it off github?
[06:22] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: Still considering what the log relates .. " intel(G0): Enabled output LVDS1 " multi monitors ? as " NVIDIA(0): Valid display device(s) on GPU-0 at PCI:1:0:0 >> NVIDIA(0): No enabled display devices found; starting anyway . HUH ???
[06:23] <oldtopman> I had some multi-monitor stuff going on earlier that day.
[06:23] <gbell_> Thanks Seveas.  See above (sorry)
[06:23] <gbell_> Thanks @Seveas.  See above (sorry)
[06:23] <gbell_> Thanks Seveas:  See above (sorry)
[06:23] <gbell_> (NOOB!)
[06:24] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: But that's stored in xorg.conf, right?
[06:25] <Sterist> is there a way to verify that my livecd is 64bit?
[06:25] <somsip> Sterist: uname -a
[06:26] <Sterist> x86_64 so... self explanatory? lol
[06:26] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: It is well past my end of session here ,, ny thinking is not to good now . Perhaps others can pick this up and ofer suggestions . We removed the old xorg file and a new one should have been created , A thought to check and see that the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file was created .
[06:26] <somsip> Sterist: yes, i686 being the other IIRC
[06:26] <oldtopman> It has been.
[06:27] <oldtopman> Thanks for the help bashing. You've got me started pretty good. This will teach me to update what ain't broken :p
[06:27] <gbell> Seveas: Sorry my IRC client wasn't letting me callout properly.   :D
[06:28] <Bashing-om> If it were not for " NVIDIA(0): No enabled display devices found; starting anyway " I woild be tempted to look at this as an ACPI issue . But I do not know what to make of this notice .
[06:28] <mintux> my root is 100% full but it's not true it's df -h: http://codepad.org/IjESJZzW and its du -m of root: http://codepad.org/6PDQFiTC how can i found out which files make root disk full?
[06:28] <Bashing-om> would*
[06:30] <micky> hello
[06:31] <Seveas> gbell: hmm, where is this package coming from?
[06:31] <gbell> Seveas: standard backports?
[06:32] <gbell> Seveas: deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[06:32] <Seveas> sounds sensible enough. Try apt-get -n install xserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-wily
[06:33] <Seveas> that' won't install it, but its output will show the conflicts in pastebin-able form
[06:33] <Sterist> the installer seems to default to wanting to split my allocated 200gb into 100 for "Files (3.6gb)" and 100 for "Ubuntu". the 3.6gb part suggests that is the OS, but the title Ubuntu also suggests that half is the OS. anyone know the difference?
[06:35] <hateball> Bashing-om, oldtopman I havent followed the whole conversation, but did you try nvidia-367 from PPA?
[06:35] <Sterist> either way, 100gb sounds very excessive for OS
[06:36] <reisio> Sterist: nothing extant on the disk?
[06:36] <Sterist> Windows 10
[06:36] <reisio> Sterist: 'Files' isn't some extant partition?
[06:37] <reisio> maybe one with 3.6GB of data on it?
[06:37] <Sterist> extant is not a word
[06:37]  * reisio shrugs
[06:37] <Sterist> lol
[06:37] <somsip> Sterist: its a perfectly cromulent word ;)
[06:37] <Sterist> I have a 200gb ext4 partition, I just formatted it so it should be blank
[06:38] <Sterist> formatted immediately before running installer
[06:38] <reisio> formatted with what
[06:39] <Sterist> I select Install Alongside Widows and this screen with 100gb / 100gb split is the next screen
[06:39] <Sterist> gparted on livecd
[06:40] <Sterist> I did not create 2 100gb partitions, but it seems that's what the installer wants to do
[06:41] <reisio> why would you select install alongside windows if the entire disk is empty
[06:41] <gbell> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/9ccN5F1i   a 'minor' conflict with xorg :)  Using aptitude to suggest fixes shows nothing particularly clean.
[06:42] <Sterist> the disk is not empty. I never said it was
[06:42] <reisio> this is probably fallout from prematurely formatting
[06:42] <reisio> try deleting the partition and letting the installer do its own job
[06:42] <Sterist> one moment
[06:43] <Seveas> looks like you need to upgrade the entire X stack from backports
[06:43] <Seveas> apt-get -n install xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily may give more clues (generally: follow the 'is not going to be installed' lines until you get an actual conflict)
[06:43] <gbell> Seveas: That's what I was worried about.  Yet none of the conflict resolution ideas looks like that... most leave  important stuff (e.g. dri or glx) uninstalled.
[06:43] <Sterist> oooh gparted now shows 3.6gb on the 200gb ext4i just formatted (0_o) makes no sense
[06:44] <Sterist> the installer still detected it as 2 100gb's lol makes no sense!!! anyways.... deleting now.
[06:44] <Seveas> gbell: I'm just speculating here, but the conflict resolution may like 'least amount of changes' best, where 'removing one package' is better than 'replacing 100 packages with others'
[06:45] <gbell> Seveas: yes.   but one of the packages to remove is "ubuntu-desktop".
[06:46] <Sterist> should I select sda1 (Windows boot manager) as device for bootloader or leave it default SDA
[06:46] <Bashing-om> hateball: Tried the 352 from repo, and 361 from our PPA . I do not know what to make of " NVIDIA(0): No enabled display devices found; starting anyway " . The 361 driver did install .: http://www.hastebin.com/vojavohuzo.coffee .
[06:46] <Seveas> gbell: hmm. Annoying. cWhat I'd try next is apt-get -n install xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily xserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-wily. And then keep adding packages to that line that it complains about 'not going to be installed' until it has a line that has another error than 'not going to be installed'
[06:48] <Seveas> at some point you'll hopefully end up with a long apt-get install line that'll do the needful without removing ubuntu-desktop, thereby "manually" providing a solution for the conflict. I've never done this for backported X packages though, so no idea how well (if at all) it'll work
[06:48] <gbell> Seveas: Yep.  The line then has about 20 packages, and in the "to be removed" section is still ubuntu-desktop.
[06:48] <hateball> Bashing-om: I'd still try 367, and make sure there's no xorg.conf present
[06:49] <Seveas> gbell: can you pastebin the command and its output?
[06:50] <trijntje> I'm having problems installing 16.04 using lvm, the installer hangs. Does the installer have a log where you can see whats going wrong?
[06:51] <Seveas> trijntje: isn't it simply logging to /var/log/syslog?
[06:51] <Sterist> should I select sda1 (Windows boot manager) as device for bootloader or leave it default SDA
[06:52] <Seveas> gbell: I'll be afk for ~20 minutes
[06:52] <gbell> Seveas: It's a monster.  Here ya go (thanks a lot):  http://pastebin.com/as7cWvs0
[06:54] <amazoniantoad> Where can I go to ask questions about ubuntu tablet OS?
[06:55] <k1l_> !touch | amazoniantoad
[06:55] <Bashing-om> hateball: oldtopman ^^ I am done for this session ,, head is pounding and eyes are crossing , I hope yall get this figured out .
[06:58] <trijntje> Seveas: you're right, thanks
[06:59] <random> Hi, can anyone explain what the difference between Cinnamon and (other desktop name i can't remember) is?
[07:02] <Davycrockett> Mate is a fork of the old Gnome and Cinnimon is a copy of the old Gnome using the newer librarys.
[07:04] <random> Thanks for the useful info Davy
[07:04] <Davycrockett> No problem mate.
[07:05] <random> One more thing, which is more popular/supported Cinnamon or MATE?
[07:05] <random> I'm asking this coz I need to know when I download Mint Linux
[07:06] <Davycrockett> I'm not too sure on that one. I prefer mate out of the two but thats just personal. I use KDE.
[07:07] <amazoniantoad> Where can I download ubuntu touch?
[07:07] <Lope> If anyone here is running a 4.4 kernel (type `uname -r` to check, you will be if you use Ubuntu 16.04). So if you have a 4.4 kernel and you're running an NFS server, if you could be so kind as to try mounting one of your NFS shares with NFSv3 (instead of the default NFSv4) I would really appreciate you to provide feedback on my Kernel Bug report. https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118881 Just test like this: `mount NFSSERVERIP:/nfs/shared/path /tmp/te
[07:07] <Lope> stmount -o ro,vers=3`
[07:07] <random> Anyone played Battle for Wesnoth, I just started the tutorial and can't really get my head around the game, seems like an oldstyle RPG or something
[07:07] <random> thx again Davy btw
[07:08] <Davycrockett> Anytime mate.
[07:08] <Lope> Just test like this: `mount NFSSERVERIP:/nfs/shared/path /tmp/testmount -o ro,vers=3`
[07:10] <ducasse> random: there's a manual in /usr/share/doc/wesnoth-1.12-data/
[07:10] <random> ok thx ducasse will check it out later'
[07:15] <Sterist> okay I've tried both manual and automatic methods with the Ubuntu installer, and every time it finishes and I reboot, it just goes straight to Windows... no grub
[07:15] <Seveas> gbell: looks like you'll need an even more monstrous command line: for all the xorg packages it's trying to remove, add the -lts-wily version to the list of to be installed
[07:15] <Seveas> gbell: at this point I do have to wonder whether there's an easier way though.   The driver off git compiles pretty easily and it looks like I just have to copy the .la and .so files on top of what's in /usr.  Not too bad...
[07:16] <Seveas> gbell: how about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack ?
[07:17] <Seveas> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-wily xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily xserver-xorg-lts-wily xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-wily xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-wily libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-wily
[07:17] <Guest95005> hola
[07:18] <Seveas> Hello Guest95005, how can we help you?
[07:18] <Guest95005> no hablo ingles
[07:19] <Guest95005> buenas noches a todos
[07:23] <gbell> Seveas: Interesting!  No longer wants to remove ubuntu-desktop.  Still some "recommends" and "suggesteds".  Should I put those on the commandline too?
[07:23] <Sterist> okay I've tried both manual and automatic methods with the Ubuntu installer, and every time it finishes and I reboot, it just goes straight to Windows... no grub, anyone have ideas?
[07:26] <trijntje> Sterist: where did you install grub to?
[07:27] <DevAntoine> hi
[07:28] <Seveas> gbell: can you pastebin the thing? Can't really give proper advice without seeing what it's trying to do :)
[07:29] <gbell> Seveas: You mean the most recent output...
[07:29] <Seveas> yeah
[07:30] <Sterist> trijntje: when I did manual partition selection, I left it default at sda. when I chose Install Alongside Widows Boot Manager, it didn't tell me where it installed
[07:30] <gbell> Seveas: Is the output useful without the sub-steps?  http://pastebin.com/KtcAHpBs
[07:30] <Sterist> trijntje: it was probably also default sda
[07:31] <Seveas> gbell: that output looks absolutely fine
[07:31] <Seveas> no need to add extra things to the commandline, this can run as-is
[07:33] <gbell> Seveas: Interesting.  Was that command line just the 'recommendeds' from one of my previous outputs?
[07:33] <Seveas> gbell: a bit more than that. Especiall the -all metapackages will have helped apt in making the right decisions
[07:34] <gbell> Seveas: and --install-recommends.  Right.  Thanks much.  Still sort of a huge/dangerous upgrade.
[07:35] <Seveas> gbell: ayup.
[07:36] <Dancer_> guys can anybody take a look at this thread please http://askubuntu.com/questions/777594/wifi-not-working-after-upgrade-from-14-04-to-16-04-rt3290-adaptor
[07:36] <gbell> Seveas: Oh man, I just noticed, you grabbed the upstream kernel too!  LIkely to break lots of other stuff?
[07:37] <Seveas> gbell: you'll need to use the newer kernel, or the xorg drivers won't work properly
[07:38] <gbell> Seveas: if I add some of the suggested packages (including seemingly important ones like xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi) I get messages about there not actually being that package available... odd.
[07:38] <jatin30> I am trying to set up LAMP in my system. It syas in the instructions "Change the DocumentRoot to point to the new location. For example, /home/user/public_html/" but there is no such directory currently present in the system. what to do?
[07:40] <Seveas> gbell: heh, that doesn't entirely surprise me. Package maintainers often neglect their Suggests: lines
[07:40] <Seveas> jatin30: which instructions are that?
[07:40] <Seveas> because that sounds 100% wrong
[07:41] <jatin30> seveas, point no. 3 in heading "Virtual hosts" in this link, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:41] <gbell> Seveas: Interesting.  So I just don't worry about them?
[07:42] <jatin30> Seveas, can I direct message you?
[07:42] <Seveas> gbell: I'd install the linux-firmware one if that doesn't cause conflicts
[07:43] <gbell> jatin30: That's under the suPHP section.  Probably not what you want?
[07:43] <Seveas> jatin30: hmm, those instructions could use some work, but they're not as bad as I thought. Anyway, you can simply create that directory.
[07:43] <csplinter> Hey, fellas. I'm having an installation issue here. I've got a hdd with a fresh install of win10 occupying the first half/partition of the drive. I boot to the 16.04 install DVD and when I reach the partition selection step, a "ubiquity" "internal error" occurs.
[07:44] <jatin30> Seveas: Ok. Can I direct message you?
[07:44] <Seveas> jatin30: preferably not.
[07:44] <Seveas> !pm
[07:45] <Seveas> I also should be working, so I'm going afk now :)
[07:45] <jatin30> Seveas: Ok! thanks anyways
[07:45] <zetheroo> I have some items in the AutoStart list in Ubuntu 16.04 - where would be the best place to see why an entry in the AutoStart is not working?
[07:45] <gbell> jatin30: You'll find Apache is pretty particular about permissions.  If you want to be able to write into that dir as yourself, you'll need to make your user a member of www-data (or whatever the group apache belongs to).  I usually end up with DocumentRoot pretty high up in the file hierarchy just to avoid problems (like /data/www).
[07:46] <gbell> Seveas: Oddly "Package firmware-linux is not available, but is referred to by another package"
[07:46] <jatin30> gbell: I am new to linux so I did not get exactly what you said however I still got an idea. Thanks!
[07:47] <csplinter> Are there any known causes for ubiquity crashes during drive formating?
[07:48] <Paprikachu_> hi, how can i disable this window overlay that is drawn when i scroll past the end of a panel
[07:48] <gbell> jatin30: My mistake - the /user/public_html recommendation was in an earlier/more general section.  Either way, that's a weird place for it.  Getting Apache to be happy is one of the bigger PITAs in Linux so stick with it!
[07:49] <Lope> nevermind regarding my kernel bug report above. Seems to be my iptables rules.
[07:50] <jatin30> gbell: Ok! Thanks Can I dm you? I really need to talk about this
[07:50] <gbell> Seveas: Actually, it's called linux-firmware in 14.04.  Funny.  Like you said, neglected field in the package's config :)  That helps a lot knowing that's just a text field and can be wrong / say anything.
[07:50] <csplinter> I give my word of honor that a $5.00 bounty will be awarded via paypal for a workable solution.
[07:50] <niko> :22
[07:51] <csplinter> in the next 10 minutes anyway
[07:51] <Seveas> gbell: yeah, you could put go-jump-off-a-cliff in as a Suggests: if you want :)
[07:53] <Paprikachu_> hi, how can i disable this window overlay that is drawn when i scroll past the end of a panel
[07:57] <gbell> jatin30: You could if you really wanted, but I'm not going to be able to type a bunch of stuff over email that's any more helpful than that article :)   gbell_spamless on yahoo's mail domain.  Do you have anybody that can help you in person?  You could have me log into your machine, but everybody here will probably tell you that's a terrible idea :)  (I had a driver maintainer do that for me once - magic of ssh / shared screen
[07:59] <csplinter> offer withdrawn
[08:21] <gagagugu> is there a way to install grsecurity on ubuntu?
[08:22] <hacker> Hey
[08:23] <galopin> salut
[08:30] <dryblow> *l*
[08:30]  * dryblow t
[08:35] <Jakey3> if i change an image name of a .vdi for virtualbox
[08:36] <Jakey3> how do I change the path to that virtual image so that it loads
[08:40] <Jakey3> http://imgur.com/tyH5xny
[08:41] <Melvin_> If i run: sudo service ssh start                   I get the following error: Failed to start ssh.service: Unit ssh.service is masked.
[08:41] <Jakey3> i changed the image name and get the above error
[08:41] <Jakey3> how do I modify the image directory
[08:43] <Jakey3> worked it out must change storage
[08:50] <dante> l
[08:50] <alkisg> Hi, there's an autogenerated .html web page somewhere in ubuntu.com or launchpad.net, that lists all of the packages in the -proposed repositories, along with how long they've been in the queue etc... but I can't find it in google... does anyone know its URL?
[08:50] <lennie> Goodmorning, I have a question regarding changing the default map from /home/test into /home when I log on with my user. Does anyone know the commandline to solve this? Thanks in advance.
[08:53] <trijntje> lennie: why would you want that? I dont think thats even possible
[08:54] <vamadir> ubuntu 14.04 .      howto make working salt+md5 password from mysql with freeradius?
[08:56] <lennie> Goodmorning, I have a question regarding changing the default map from /home/test into /home when I log on with my user (SFTP). Does anyone know the commandline to solve this? Thanks in advance.
[08:56] <Melvin_> Heey, when i sudo apt-get update i get this error
[08:56] <Melvin_> http://pastebin.com/532fDbZk
[08:57] <d> is there a way to lunch sound indicator with command line?
[08:57] <Melvin_> The Error i get when i run sudo apt-get update   http://pastebin.com/532fDbZk           and my sources.list       http://pastebin.com/QHyNVvSC
[08:58] <alkisg> Melvin_: can you ping us.archive.ubuntu.com ? can you ping www.google.com ?
[08:58] <nisseni> I'm having problem getting make to work. as I run ./configure it creates make-files - but running make throws *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[08:59] <Melvin_> alkisg: i can't ping those but i can ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:59] <alkisg> Melvin_: that means that your DNS is misconfigured
[08:59] <alkisg> It's not an issue with apt
[08:59] <Melvin_> alkisg: so what is the easy way to set the dns to defaults?
[08:59] <Melvin_> :)
[09:00] <nisseni> what's the difference between ./configure and ./config ?
[09:00] <alkisg> Melvin_: I don't know what you did to break it, but usually your router/dhcp server sends the dns server to be used
[09:00] <alkisg> Did you mess with network manager or with /etc/network/interfaces etc etc?
[09:00] <Melvin_> maybe a little bit :$
[09:00] <alkisg> Both of those?
[09:01] <Melvin_> Do i need to set the DNS for static ip also :$
[09:01] <Melvin_> because then i forgot that maybe xD
[09:01] <trijntje> I'm trying to get access to an encrypte home. when I run ecryptfs-recover-private, it 'mounts' something in /tmp/ecryptfs. But when I go there I still cant get to my files
[09:02] <alkisg> Melvin_: the normal is not to configure anything, which means that network-manager will autosetup a connection for you, with settings from your router
[09:02] <alkisg> We need to know what you did to break it, in order to undo it
[09:02] <alkisg> E.g. if you edited /etc/network/interfaces, you need to revert it
[09:02] <Melvin_> But the thing is, i need a static ip for the SSH
[09:02] <alkisg> You can set up a static ip in network-manager
[09:02] <Melvin_> But it's a server :)
[09:03] <alkisg> Then in /etc/network/interfaces, if you're using that, but you also need to include the dns server there
[09:03] <alkisg> What are the contents of /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:03] <Melvin_> http://pastebin.com/g5ELkY6s
[09:04] <Melvin_> alkisg: http://pastebin.com/g5ELkY6s
[09:05] <alkisg> Melvin_: you need one more line with dns-nameservers, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/143819/how-do-i-configure-my-static-dns-in-interfaces
[09:05] <Melvin_> alkisg: Melvin *facepalms himself*
[09:05] <alkisg> :)
[09:05] <Melvin_> alkisg: thank you alkisg :)
[09:05] <alkisg> You're welcome
[09:07] <Melvin_> alkisg: if i put dns-nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>    that would work right?
[09:07] <trijntje> I'm trying to get access to an encrypte home. when I run ecryptfs-recover-private, it 'mounts' something in /tmp/ecryptfs. But when I go there I still cant get to my files
[09:07] <CB6> Evening, what's the command to pull up the desktop display settings? I don't see it under general settings?> I didn't find my answer on Google. I can't even see what I am typing here properly lol
[09:07] <alkisg> Melvin_: it should, yes
[09:07] <CB6> I want to setup 1920x1080p
[09:07] <Melvin_> alkisg: i have rebooted the server, lets wait for the outcome ^^
[09:07] <rory> CB6: gnome-control-center display
[09:08] <CB6> ok ty
[09:08] <rory> CB6: You can also set the resolution directly from the terminal http://askubuntu.com/a/398740
[09:08] <Melvin_> alkisg: it works, thank you
[09:08] <alkisg> np :)
[09:10] <noob> hello
[09:10] <noob> just installed some updates on my ubuntu 14.4 and when i restarted, the dash is gone and there is a new menu to acceess apps called "Activities"
[09:10] <noob> please advice
[09:11] <CB6> System settings isn't showing a display settings option. It shows firewall and updates
[09:11] <noob> @CB6 did you use phpstorm software?
[09:12] <CB6> I wouldn't know to be honest. It's been a whiole
[09:12] <CB6> while*\
[09:13] <CB6> I do recall doing a rain package at one point for the desktop
[09:13] <noob> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:13] <noob> did you do this?
[09:14] <noob> this will reinstall and when you log in again it will have the settings back
[09:14] <pontus_> yo yo ppl
[09:15] <noob> some packages have conflict. I have installed a package for phpstorm software and I got the same problem then I did: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and it worked
[09:15] <CB6> Installed now
[09:15] <kltrg> Hello, ducasse! Remember how you helped me to set up vnc4server and lightdm? Connecting to the server now works but after typing in my credentials, no desktop environment is able to load. Can you help me with that, too?
[09:16] <noob> did it work?
[09:16] <CB6> Nothing new in there
[09:17] <noob> when I installed it, it loged me out
[09:17] <noob> then I had to log in again
[09:17] <CB6> system settings works again so that worked
[09:18] <CB6> I installed kodi but I don't know if this had anything to do with it would it?
[09:18] <ducasse> kltrg: check the lightdm logs, or auth.log maybe.
[09:22] <Xat`> hi guys, is ubuntu 10.04 impacted by the cve cve-2016-2108 ?
[09:23] <gregf_> hello, needed a quick help
[09:23] <somsip> !10.04 | Xat` (dead by now)
[09:23] <gregf_> i know something is scheduled - not as a crontab for sure
[09:23] <gregf_> i kill a process - and it spawns immediately
[09:24] <EriC^> gregf_: which process?
[09:24] <gregf_> its an application - spring boot
[09:24] <gregf_> i had an entry in /etc/init/foo.conf
[09:25] <Xat`> somsip: maybe it is not supported anymore, but is ubuntu 10.04 impacted by this cve-2016-2108 ?
[09:25] <gregf_> EriC^: and i guess it would run that. but i've now commented it out. do i need to reboot?
[09:25] <Xat`> I don't need any update, I just want to know if I'm vulnerable
[09:25] <gregf_> for changes to take place?
[09:25] <EriC^> gregf_: which ubuntu?
[09:26] <gregf_> 12.10
[09:26] <gregf_> :|
[09:26] <gregf_> its an ec2 instance
[09:26] <EriC^> gregf_: try sudo service stop <foo>
[09:26] <gregf_> *we will be upgrading shortly*
[09:26] <gregf_> sure
[09:26] <EriC^> gotcha
[09:27] <gregf_> EriC^: i've also got a service in /etc/init.d/foo
[09:27] <gregf_> EriC^++
[09:27]  * EriC^ segfaults
[09:27] <gregf_> EriC^: so does scripts under init have more precedence over init.d?
[09:28] <gregf_> s/does/do/
[09:28] <EriC^> no idea really
[09:28] <EriC^> i think both run or maybe upstart is smart enough to see they're clones dunno
[09:28] <CB6> The display is going off the screen. Monitor is 1920x1080p
[09:28] <gregf_> i mean if i reboot - which ones are run first?
[09:28] <ducasse> kltrg: if the desktop starts to load, check ~/.xsession-errors
[09:29] <EriC^> gregf_: no idea
[09:29] <EriC^> !upstart | gregf_ more info here
[09:29] <pontus_> hmm
[09:29] <gregf_> EriC^: well the file unde /etc/init/foo.conf has got all start, respawn, script runlevel commands. but my script under /etc/init.d/foo is a bash script
[09:30] <gregf_> ah - ok. upstart. *was looking for some info on that*
[09:30] <EriC^> gregf_: i'd guess the foo.conf is making it respawn
[09:31] <gregf_> yep exactly, but kill has no effect. but sudo service foo stop has :|
[09:31] <gregf_> EriC^: so what you're saying is theres 2 ways of starting services. upstart and system-V?
[09:31] <gregf_> and systemd i guess
[09:32] <Melvin_> Heey, i need to install a few owncloud php modules, is there anyone that can help me with that?
[09:32] <EriC^> well sort of yeah, upstart has sysv compatibility
[09:32] <gregf_> EriC^: ok. thanks very much!
[09:32] <CB6> scale for menu doesn't exactly help lol. Anyone have any experience with the display going off screen? I'm not using the AMD drivers but the open source tested ones
[09:32] <EriC^> gregf_: no problem
[09:33] <CB6> I'm using the recommended tested drivers and not the AMD ones
[09:34] <CB6> lol ok so apparently my view in here didn't show when I increased the scale menu hah.
[09:38] <CB6> Figured it out, "Overscan" on the monitor makes the edges of images go offscreen. Turned this off on the monitor and it appears normal.
[09:39] <CB6> Thanks for all your help!
[09:39] <Melvin_> Heey, i need to install a few owncloud php modules, is there anyone that can help me with that?
[09:39] <agdafaf> 0hey, help me please:
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[09:40] <SwedeMike> ml
[09:40] <geekos> Bonjour , Hello
[09:43] <aekara170> kaλημερα
[09:43] <EriC^> !gr | aekara170
[09:44] <kltrg> ducasse, Here are several logs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16703595/ A lot of warnings for which I can’t understand if they’re important or not.
[09:50] <stakewinner00> after installing synaptic (apt install synaptic), the installation failed and the PC gives me a kernel panic (in rescue mode too), how can i fix it without reinstalling ubuntu?
[09:51] <EriC^> stakewinner00: put init=/bin/bash in the grub kernel line
[09:51] <EriC^> and mount -o remount,rw / then troubleshoot
[09:51] <ducasse> kltrg: i'm not sure unity would work, have you tried something different?
[09:52] <kltrg> ducasse, I have. I tried Gnome. It’s the same.
[09:53] <ducasse> kltrg: that wouldn't work either, it requires 3d accel.
[09:53] <stakewinner00> EriC^, i added init=/bin/sh in the end of the line that says "linux /boot/<kernel> root=UUID=<hexa-number> ro single" or something similar.
[09:53] <EriC^> try /bin/bash
[09:54] <EriC^> what happened when you did
[09:54] <stakewinner00> whith init=/bin/sh the systems try to start as normal, (doesn't start /bin/sh)
[09:54] <kltrg> ducasse, I thought I also tried Gnome Flashback but I seems I didn’t. I logged into it and it seems to work. Thanks for the hint.
[09:55] <EriC^> try init=/bin/bash instead of quiet splash
[09:55] <ducasse> kltrg: no problem.
[09:56] <stakewinner00> EriC^, ok, but how it can made any difference?
[09:56] <EriC^> stakewinner00: it should work, i've tried it
[09:57] <Shai-Tan> Hi guys, just updated  to 16.04 however, php is showing the source rather than parsing the code.. sudo a2enmod php does not get it going either. Anything I am missing?
[09:58] <stakewinner00> i thought that with /bin/sh should work too, when i arrive i will try with /bin/bash
[09:59] <EriC^> stakewinner00: put it instead of quiet splash, not at the very end after $vt_handoff --
[09:59] <pashok> Hi All, my ubuntu configured as remote rsyslog server and all logs that cames from remote machines goes to /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kern.log, how to i configuring to write remote logs to specific file?
[10:01] <noggerfroggereli> hi guys, i' have been using the usb mountable disk creator from ubuntu 16.4 and 2 of my usb drives that i have used this way seems to be no more usable
[10:01] <EriC^> stakewinner00: maybe it doesn't work cause /bin/sh is symlink
[10:01] <noggerfroggereli> i cannot format them
[10:01] <EriC^> stakewinner00: that or you put it after -- i think, i've tried it instead of quiet splash and it works
[10:01] <ayush_> hello
[10:01] <ayush_> world
[10:02] <ayush_> anyone der?
[10:03] <hateball> !help | ayush_
[10:03] <noggerfroggereli> gparted tells me there should be gpt partition with fake msdos
[10:03] <noggerfroggereli> but there is no more gpt partition
[10:04] <ayush_> !help noggerfroggereli
[10:04] <ayush_> :X
[10:04] <noggerfroggereli> this is giving me hell
[10:05] <kltrg> ducasse, Can I bother you once more? Right now, the VNC window is bigger than the space left on my client (the local panel and the window decoration use some space, too). How can I fit the VNC window to my client?
[10:10] <ducasse> kltrg: oh, that's easy to fix, you specify the resolution you want in lightdm.conf on the server :)
[10:10] <noggerfroggereli> how should a mountable usb boot device be formatted after been succesfully utilized in order to use it as a simple 1 partition windows friendly usb device?
[10:10] <noggerfroggereli> gparted is having lots of problems trying to do this and windows show me the device as 2 mb usb drive (it's 2 gb)
[10:10] <EriC^> noggerfroggereli: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:13] <noggerfroggereli> output is
[10:13] <noggerfroggereli> use netcat
[10:14] <Jakey3> how to i check if my partitions are aligned correctly
[10:14] <Jakey3> ?
[10:15] <EriC^> noggerfroggereli: try again
[10:16] <EriC^> noggerfroggereli: try sudo apt-get install pastebinit then sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[10:16] <EriC^> Jakey3: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/partitioning#Partition_alignment
[10:19] <fungmen> testing
[10:19] <fungmen> helo any body home ? echooooo......
[10:19] <matteo> ok
[10:19] <noggerfroggereli> seems to be processing
[10:19] <noggerfroggereli> still havent got any output
[10:20] <fungmen> anyone know how to use memex ?
[10:20] <fungmen> on ubuntu
[10:23] <kltrg> Thanks, ducasse. I have to test a lot of things now and I probably will come back to ask for several things, encryption for example.
[10:24] <noggerfroggereli> sudo parted -l | pastebinit is not working
[10:24] <ducasse> kltrg: that's fine, i'm here most days, daytime in europe. so everything works fine now?
[10:24] <EriC^> noggerfroggereli: what's it saying
[10:24] <noggerfroggereli> nothing it just hangs
[10:26] <ninja_> command to reset wifi ?
[10:26] <EriC^> noggerfroggereli: ok, try sudo partprobe && lsblk | pastebinit
[10:26] <kltrg> ducasse, I still have to find a client that suits me. Vinagre works in maximized view, but I can’t leave it. Somehow, the hidden top panel doesn’t appear when I point the mouse towards it. So I’m stuck in the distant session. Remmina doesn’t connect. xvnc4viewer doesn’t (as far as I know) support maximizing the distant desktop.
[10:26] <DiamondSword> ninja_, service network-manager restart, maybe?
[10:28] <noggerfroggereli> it says  the device contains gpt singnatures but not a false m sdos table
[10:28] <noggerfroggereli> and
[10:28] <Jakey3> EriC^: thanks
[10:29] <noggerfroggereli> both gpt and backup gpt partition are damaged
[10:29] <ducasse> kltrg: i've always used remmina without problems, don't know why you can't get it to work... it's the best client imo.
[10:29] <spritezzers> Hello! I am having trouble getting my bluetooth speaker working, Ubuntu detects it and can connect to it, and the speakers gives the "connected" sound, but I can't see it in the sound output menu
[10:32] <kltrg> ducasse, I had a badly configured config as a preset. Due to my long trying probably. I started with a fresh Remmina connect window and it works. I’ll give it a go.
[10:33] <EriC^> noggerfroggereli: np, get the names of the usb's
[10:33] <EriC^> like /dev/sdb etc
[10:33] <yoni_> join #calico
[10:34] <ducasse> kltrg: you do that, afaicr it's pretty easy to set up with an ssh tunnel if you want crypto.
[10:35] <kltrg> ducasse, I definately want that.
[10:36] <noggerfroggereli> one is actually a sandisk microsd and the other one is a kingston dt101 g2
[10:38] <ducasse> kltrg: i haven't really needed it, mainly use vnc on a wired lan. there are probably some guides out there to tunneling vnc in ssh if you look around.
[10:38] <kltrg> ducasse, And the setup I use (vnc4server and lightdm) doesn’t change anything to those tutorials?
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | kltrg
[10:40] <kltrg> lotuspsychje, I’ll look into this. Thanks.
[10:42] <ducasse> kltrg: not really, no.
[10:44] <noggerfroggereli> OMG I FOUND A SOLUTION
[10:45] <noggerfroggereli> the usb disk creation utility is the only thing that worked
[10:46] <noggerfroggereli> well it worked on the kingston but not on the microsd
[10:48] <noggerfroggereli> it says to use gnuparted
[10:52] <ankitkulkarni> does anyone know how can i reinitialize a network controller which somehow got detected as ethernet controller by ubuntu14.04 , kernel <IP_ADDRESS> 64 bit
[10:52] <ankitkulkarni> the network controller is attached as a pci device
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> ankitkulkarni: is your system up to date to 14.04.4?
[10:53] <ankitkulkarni> nope
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> ankitkulkarni: please do
[10:54] <ankitkulkarni> the system is 14.04.01
[10:55] <ankitkulkarni> I understand that , however we have few devices with customers which are very difficult to do an upgrade
[10:55] <ankitkulkarni> is there any workaround for it
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> ankitkulkarni: its really not recommended to not bu up to date
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> ankitkulkarni: for security and your overall system working
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> !usn | ankitkulkarni
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> ankitkulkarni: if something doesnt work on latest==> !bug
[10:57] <ankitkulkarni> yeah I got it ,
[10:57] <ankitkulkarni> I will see how can i get all the devices updated
[10:58] <dskw> is there a way to not install games by default in 16.04? i'm installing using the ISO and the graphical installer.
[10:58] <robotdevil1> can chromium play netflix now with widevine?
[10:58] <ankitkulkarni> however I tried these kind of things `sudo sh -c "echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000\:02\:00.0/remove"`
[10:58] <ankitkulkarni> and `sudo sh -c "echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/rescan "
[10:58] <ankitkulkarni> `
[10:59] <ankitkulkarni> to remove the pci device and rescan it , but it still detects as ethernet controller only
[10:59] <robotdevil1> chrome keeps breaking my system for some reason, and even when it works it opens on the wrong screen after I have follow mouse enabled and use monitor as primary display
[11:00] <pc_> ivka
[11:02] <norech> hi, i just installed ubuntu 14.4 with 3 party drivers and updates checked
[11:02] <robotdevil1> yo
[11:02] <norech> and my wifi doesnt work
[11:02] <norech> and even my usb wifi network adapter doesn't work
[11:03] <norech> when i try to turn them on from the menu nothing happens and they stay off
[11:03] <jakey3> hi ive updated my machine to lubuntu 16.04 now my wireless does not work
[11:04] <jakey3> (2) Active connection removed before it was initialised
[11:05] <jakey3> worked fine on 14.04
[11:05] <aditya> you should probably update your wifi drivers by going to software and updates
[11:05] <dmitryK|log> hi! do you know who is the maintainer of Qt packages in Ubuntu? I would like to ask when the transition from Qt 5.5.1 to 5.6.x is going to happen...
[11:06] <jakey3> im im fully updated
[11:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:10] <ehvagu> hi
[11:13] <ducasse> jakey3: did you upgrade from 14.04 or reinstall?
[11:13] <jakey3> reinstall
[11:13] <nikii> hi
[11:14] <jakey3> ducasse: how come it was working on 14,04 and not 16.04
[11:14] <ducasse> jakey3: no idea. new driver, i'd guess.
[11:15] <jatin30> Why am I getting http://imgur.com/Fw6kC2R after installing apache 2 properly?
[11:16] <nikii> is it possible to force system use same battery mode power options in ac mode?because i have not  fan problem.
[11:17] <alimj> Hello. Just wanted to clarify to myself. It won't be possible to test Unity8/Mir on VMs? And Currently no VM supports it?
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> alimj: unity8 is still under development
[11:18] <stratos> @jatin30: there is probably no users named "user"
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> alimj: most worked on will be 16.10, so experiment with unity8 on vm with 16.10 perhaps?
[11:19] <alimj> lotuspsychje: Tried it on VirtualBox (+Guest additions) and 16.10; Unfortunately did not work
[11:20] <stratos> @jatin30: when you are in /home/jatin/public_html then type "gedit index.html" and enter the html snippet then save the file
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> alimj: 16.10 didnt work, or unity8?
[11:20] <stratos> @jatin30: your attempts to use "echo" are all buggy
[11:20] <robotdevil1> jakey3: is there an additional drivers option?
[11:20] <alimj> lotuspsychje: 16.10 works without any issues. It is the Unity8 that does not work
[11:21] <Paddy_NI> I have installed "ubuntu-desktop" on an Ubuntu MATE 16.04 installation and have run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop" to which nothing happens only to be left with an Ubuntu Unity session that has no panel, desktop, dash or launcher.. Can anyone help?
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> alimj: like i say, unity8 is under development still perhaps little more patient and hangout in #ubuntu+1 ?
[11:22] <jakey3> robotdevil1: yes didnt make a difference though
[11:23] <alimj_> lotuspsychje: Thanks. Will join and enjoy
[11:26] <jakey3_> how is it possible i have my laptop on 14.04 i reinstall 16.04 and my wireless no longer works
[11:26] <rock> hey
[11:27] <rock> how can i install libgtk2.0-dev?
[11:29] <jakey3_> its a Centrino Advanced-N 6205
[11:29] <jakey3_> Wireless interface
[11:30] <ducasse> rock: apt install libgtk2.0-dev?
[11:31] <Paddy_NI> jakey3_, 16.04 has a few problems however I am sure that one should be simple enough to fix.  Have you tried booting from an Ubuntu 16.04 cd/dvd, USB and tested your wireless there?
[11:32] <jakey3_> Paddy_NI: i havent tried from a live cd yet
[11:32] <Paddy_NI> jakey3_, Oh and did you do a clean install or an upgrade?
[11:32] <hugo> new_user
[11:33] <jakey3_> Paddy_NI: clean install
[11:33] <robotdevil1> jakey3_: might not do nothing but I ve seen alot of updates being borked by the gui updaters, do you know how to recovery mode repair broken packages?
[11:33] <jakey3_> robotdevil1: nope
[11:34] <robotdevil1> jakey3_:  dual boot?
[11:34] <jakey3_> i dont know will google it
[11:34] <jakey3_> will check live cd brb
[11:34] <robotdevil1> jakey3_: you just press escape before the ubuntu logo loads and then enable networking and then fix packages
[11:35] <robotdevil1> gotta press it fast thou
[11:35] <ashrov> Hi maybe someone know., How can I add a new test to xymon/hobbit?
[11:36] <kenzu> hiya how do I boot to christian ubuntu from debian linux?
[11:37] <kenzu> hey peter you from Finland :D
[11:37] <k1l> kenzu: boot? make a live usb and boot that?
[11:37] <kenzu> i made a disc already right, on a dvd using brasero in debian, but i restarted comp but it went straight to debian back..
[11:38] <kenzu> can i write over the disc if i made some error?
[11:38] <k1l> test if the dvd is properly made.
[11:39] <kenzu> how do i know if its properly made? what signifies it
[11:39] <k1l> and make sure your pc boots from dvd
[11:39] <kenzu> it does boot from dvd, it did it when i deleted windows and installed debian
[11:40] <VietnamFlashback> GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MOORNNINNG VIEETNAMMM!!!
[11:40] <Paddy_NI> :-)
[11:40] <Paddy_NI> kenzu, Perhaps your computer does not wish to convert
[11:41] <Paddy_NI> kenzu, Or you could change the boot order in your bios?
[11:41] <kenzu> hahahaha
[11:41] <Paddy_NI> :-)
[11:41] <k1l> kenzu: check the md5sum of the dvd. check if there is data on that dvd. when booting the pc make sure you specificly boot from dvd
[11:42] <kenzu>  ok
[11:42] <brunch875> kenzu: double-check the boot order. It's the most likely scenario
[11:43] <kenzu> hmm
[11:44] <jakey3> i check on the live cd wireless work fine
[11:44] <jakey3> i checked on the live cd wireless works fine
[11:44] <robotdevil1> jakey3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYiTJtYmmzg   its kind of like this method except he doesnt select enable networking and fix broken packages he instead selects failsafe because of his graphics or something, you can also ignore the the other command stuff and just reboot your pc
[11:44] <kenzu> so what was i looking for in the disc again?
[11:44] <k1l> jakey3: you know how it works in here: check what exact hardware you have and show errors from the logs.
[11:44] <jakey3> robotdevil1: thanks for the info
[11:45] <jakey3> k1l: yes
[11:45] <jakey3> is it possible that dkms can mess it up?
[11:45] <k1l> jakey3: what did you do with dkms?
[11:45] <kenzu> I feel more nerdy having linux:D
[11:45] <jakey3> virtualbox with dkms
[11:45] <kenzu> im surrounded by intelligent people :D
[11:45] <kenzu> xD
[11:45] <robotdevil1> jakey3: it will come in handy when other things mess up.... the install must not have loaded or enabled the wireless module
[11:46] <k1l> jakey3: if you did not change manually stuff it wont mess wifi drivers
[11:46] <jakey3> where to find the lofs of wireless
[11:46] <jakey3> *logs
[11:48] <k1l> jakey3: "dmesg" in terminal
[11:49] <kenzu> Hmmm
[11:49] <kenzu> Im gonna quite chat guys
[11:49] <kenzu> bye
[11:49] <Paddy_NI> Bye
[11:50] <jakey3> k1l: what am i looking for dmesg
[11:50] <k1l> jakey3: errors
[11:50] <jakey3> robotdevil1: what is the purpose of booting into safe mode
[11:51] <k1l> jakey3: first make sure what hardware you got and then see what driver should be used
[11:53] <jakey3> k1l: i can see  4.448550] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
[11:53] <jakey3> apart from that
[11:56] <robotdevil1> jakey3: fixes misconfuigured packages
[11:57] <robotdevil1> jakey3: helped my system lots, I would do it by hand but since its installed on ssd its so fast to just used that method .... just do
[11:57] <robotdevil1> I just do*
[11:57] <jakey3> robotdevil1: i see
[11:59] <jakey3> k1l: do i need to reinstall my wireless driver
[12:00] <k1l> jakey3: i still dont know what wifi card that is, what erorrs there are and what driver is in use.
[12:01] <robotdevil1> jakey3: works well when you other sources added to your package manager, google chrome regularly breaks my system
[12:01] <k1l> jakey3: "lspci" will tell you the hardware
[12:01] <jakey3> k1l: here dmesg
[12:01] <jakey3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16705009/
[12:04] <jakey3> k1l:  Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak]
[12:06] <k1l> jakey3: i got the same wifi chip in here running on 16.04. the drivers are in the kernel and well working. so what is the issue?
[12:07] <jakey3> k1l: beats me
[12:09] <jatin30> how to i create a test.php file in var/www ? I am not able to manually create that
[12:09] <Fuchs> jatin30: sudo touch test.php
[12:09] <Fuchs> jatin30: but I recommend creating it in your home, editing it, then copying it over with sudo when done
[12:10] <Fuchs> else you have to edit it with sudo as well, which is a bit meh
[12:10] <jatin30> fuchs:thanks
[12:11] <Fuchs> you're welcome
[12:12] <jakey3> robotdevil1: for example if i load into safe mode how would i attempt to fix the wireless dirver issue
[12:12] <k1l> jakey3: "rfkill list" and "ifconfig" in a pastebin please
[12:12] <jakey3> ?
[12:12] <k1l> jakey3: recovery mode doesnt help you at all.
[12:13] <jakey3> ok
[12:13] <jatin30> Fuchs: How do I grant the world (or, at least, Ubuntu user "apache") permission to read test.php
[12:13] <Fuchs> jatin30: via chmod and chown
[12:13] <jatin30> can you type the exact command please?
[12:13] <Fuchs> jatin30: chown changes the owner/group, e.g.  chown user:group file     so you could add the apache/httpd group there
[12:14] <Fuchs> jatin30: I'd rather you read some documentation as this is security relevant, hang on
[12:14] <Fuchs> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions  << this
[12:16] <jakey3> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16705216/
[12:18] <robotdevil1> jakey3: it doesnt hur t anything better not try .... if fixes broken packages...whatever would have taken 3 minutes to try ...if the other person has the same and it works likely is misconfigured no?
[12:19] <jakey3> robotdevil1: fsair point
[12:28] <BlueProtoman> How can I get the list of all PPAs I've installed in a manner that lets me conveniently reinstall them on another machine?
[12:28] <robotdevil1> jakey3: if I wasnt soing something id try and be more scientific
[12:29] <hateball> BlueProtoman: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[12:29] <pidybi> hi all
[12:30] <hateball> BlueProtoman: rather, "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*" I suppose
[12:30] <snfgf> What lines do i need in an X11 config to launch terminal emulator on startup? I just have blank screen and mouse pointer atm.
[12:31] <BlueProtoman> hateball: Thanks!
[12:31] <jakey3> robotdevil1: np
[12:31] <hateball> BlueProtoman: Tho that only gets the repos, it doesnt take care of GPG keys etc that apt-add-repository handles for you
[12:33] <BlueProtoman> hateball: That's okay, I have few enough PPAs that I can manually go to their URLs and get the ppa:stuff URIs
[12:34] <hateball> BlueProtoman: :)
[12:34] <pidybi> czy jest tu ktos z Polski? haaalooo ;)
[12:34] <hateball> !pl | pidybi
[12:34] <k1l> !pl | pidybi
[12:37] <pidybi> !pl | pidybi
[12:38] <Lope> what is this? linux-image-extra-virtual - Transitional package
[12:38] <Lope> what does transitional mean here?
[12:39] <\9> Lope: it's been renamed to linux-image-generic but that package exists for compatibility
[12:41] <Lope> oh, I installed it now, but it didn't add any kernel images to my /boot.
[12:41] <\9> it is empty
[12:41] <Lope> hehe, it's 11MB
[12:41] <ouroumov> Guys, anyone know how to start vino-server at boot under systemd? (16.04)
[12:42] <Lope> so if I want a kernel with extra features I should install linux-image-extra-virtual-lts-xenial ?
[12:42] <\9> Lope: it's 1.8KB for me
[12:43] <\9> Lope: linux-image-extra-virtual-lts-xenial also appears to be transitional
[12:46] <Lope> \9: I want to install a linux-image extra kernel, how can I do that?
[12:46] <k1l> Lope: why extra kernel? what do you need?
[12:47] <Bernzel> Is it possible to run Ubuntu on my SSD , and run Windows along side on my other drive? I doubt both OS's will fit on my SSD
[12:47] <Lope> k1l: docker said: warning msg="Your kernel does not support swap memory limit."
[12:47] <k1l> Bernzel: how big is the ssd?
[12:48] <Bernzel> k1l, 120gb but that will be filled with lot's of other stuff too
[12:48] <EriC^> Bernzel: you could run ubuntu and windows on it, and have the hdd for external storage for both
[12:49] <Lope> k1l: oh nevermind.
[12:49] <k1l> Lope: https://docs.docker.com/engine/installation/linux/ubuntulinux/#adjust-memory-and-swap-accounting
[12:49] <Bernzel> EriC^, yes but the idea to have Windows running alongside is to be able to play some games, and those need to be run on the SSD
[12:52] <thisgy> hey guys!
[12:53] <thisgy> I have just installed ubuntu 16.04 and my package system is already messed up. Keeps telling me: Die folgenden Pakete haben unerfüllte Abhängigkeiten:  plymouth-label : Hängt ab von: plymouth (= 0.9.2-3ubuntu13.1) aber 0.9.2-3ubuntu13 soll installiert werden  plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo : Hängt ab von: plymouth (= 0.9.2-3ubuntu13.1) aber 0.9.2-3ubuntu13 soll installiert werden
[12:53] <thisgy> I have done nothing with plymouth
[12:53] <Lope> I think I misunderstood regarding the linux-image-extra stuff.
[12:53] <thisgy> I would be very happy if someone could help me fix this!
[12:53] <Lope> The extra stuff is loadable modules, not a diff kernel called extra.
[12:55] <\9> thisgy: try sudo apt-get install --fix-broken
[12:57] <thisgy> \9: did not help unfortunately
[12:58] <thisgy>  <\9>: did not work unfortunately. Looks like I am lost here.
[12:58] <thisgy> I cannot really work without fixing this.
[12:58] <Melvin_> Heey, i need to install a few owncloud php modules, is there anyone that can help me with that?
[12:59] <\9> hmm
[12:59] <pesari> thisgy: ensure you have xenial-updates repository enabled and run "apt update"
[13:00] <thisgy>  <\9>: I do not exactly get how this would not be anyodys problem. Plymouth sounds like something everybody has.
[13:00] <\9> plymouth is the on-boot splash screen
 where would I find that?
 could I just get rid of it?
 of maybe install it again if it works
[13:02] <\9> sure but it doesn't sound like the proper solution if your packages are this messed up
[13:02] <pesari> thisgy: try grep xenial-updates -r /etc/apt
 also bluetooth does also not work anymore. Although everything was fine with 14.04. I regret upgrading a lot. Although I thought that a clean install should replace some older workarrounds...
[13:03] <\9> I don't know anything about bluetooth, I've never used it
[13:03] <hateball> Melvin_: what modules?
[13:04] <thisgy>  <pesari>: puts out a bunch of repositories. I assume a have enabled them.
[13:04] <\9> what if you just run sudo apt update?
[13:04] <Melvin_> hateball: i followed this guide and http://tecadmin.net/install-owncloud-on-ubuntu/#comment-2704
 yeah. having it work at all would be more urgent.
[13:04] <\9> you said you just installed it?
 yes
 you recommend to do it again?
[13:05] <\9> oh you did that already?
[13:05] <hugo> o
 no, I only installed it once. But I thought this sould get me a clean install.
[13:05] <hateball> Melvin_: So what is the problem? It seems to be perfectly copy-pastable
 so what would I expect from doing it again?
[13:06] <Melvin_> hateball: i know it looks nie but 1 sec ill send you a pastebin
[13:06] <\9> er, I mean run sudo apt update
[13:06] <\9> if your package info is out of date
[13:06] <Melvin_> http://pastebin.com/F9hEnaQE
[13:06] <Melvin_> hateball: http://pastebin.com/F9hEnaQE
 sais all is up to date
[13:07] <wojtek_> hi there :)
[13:07] <hateball> Melvin_: that guide suggests you add a PPA (which is unsupported here btw), did you do that?
[13:07] <Melvin_> hateball: maybe a little
[13:08] <Melvin_> hateball: how should i have done it otherwise?
[13:08] <hateball> Melvin_: No I am just asking if you did it, since the guide assumes you did
[13:08] <Melvin_> hateball: i did
[13:08] <hateball> Melvin_: And since it's referencing a PPA, I do not really know why it is not working. But perhaps someone else knows
[13:08] <alberto> Hello everyone
[13:09] <stillness> hi
[13:09] <thisgy> hey
[13:09] <stillness> hey guys, I just recovered my system from a initramfs boop problem. Does anyone know how to prevent that from happening again?
[13:09] <Melvin_> hateball: the thing is, ubuntu server 16.04 is using php7. these are the modules for php 5. The big thing is when i go to my localhost/owncloud i get the same php errors on the screen
[13:09] <Melvin_> hateball: same packages
[13:10] <Guest23004> How can I make Firefox route the sound to Jack sound server?
[13:10] <hateball> Melvin_: afaik ownCloud 9.0.1 has fixes for php7, but I may be wrong
[13:10] <Melvin_> hateball: one second ill show you the owncloud messages in a pastebin
[13:10] <hateball> Melvin_: That's a question better answered in #owncloud tho
[13:11] <Guest23004> I'm on Ubuntu 16.04
[13:11] <Melvin_> hateball: they told me go to your distro because you need the packages xD
[13:11] <hateball> Melvin_: And see you already got your answer
[13:11] <hateball> Melvin_: which were in the owncloud admin manual apparently ;)
[13:11] <Melvin_> hateball: but the problem is, wich packages if i'm not using php 5 :)
[13:12] <thisgy> I tried to remove the problematic package plymouth-label and got this: cryptsetup: WARNING: failed to detect canonical device of /dev/sda5 W: plymouth module (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plymouth//.so) missing, skipping that theme.
[13:12] <thisgy> can anybody tell me what that means??
[13:12] <hateball> Melvin_: so look in #owncloud
[13:12] <Melvin_> hateball: thanks hateball :)
[13:13] <hateball> Melvin_: I suggest you ppa-purge before following the advice given there so you don't end up with conflicting packages
[13:14] <nerbellion> Greetings. How to revert operation sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-wily xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily xserver-xorg-lts-wily xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-wily xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-wily libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-wily libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-wily libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-wily:i386 libglapi-mesa-lts-wily:i386? Regards.
[13:14] <nerbellion> OS 14.04.4
[13:16] <OerHeks> nerbellion, how about fresh install ? ]
[13:17] <ashrov> anyone know hobbir or xymon?
[13:17] <ashrov> hobiit
[13:17] <nerbellion> OerHeks>That thing really makes me so sad. Nevertheless, thanks.
[13:19] <stillness> hey guys, I just recovered my system from a initramfs boop problem. Does anyone know how to prevent that from happening again?
[13:22] <EriC^> stillness: sudo update-initramfs -u -k all
[13:22] <EriC^> stillness: then sudo update-grub
[13:23] <EriC^> still might not work, depends on what the problem was, check /etc/fstab and sudo blkid too
[13:27] <Dorf> any idea why youtube videos are no longer playing after the upgrade to 16.04?
[13:28] <Guest79004> i dont have that problem
[13:28] <BluesKaj> Dorf, install the freshplayer from your package manager , it's easier than typing the full name of the package in the terminal
[13:29] <OerHeks> Dorf, maybe hardware driver issues, do you have an  ATI videocard?
[13:29] <Dorf> there are 3 options BluesKaj.  which one is best?
[13:30] <Dorf> it looks like i have pepperflash installed already
[13:30] <Dorf> i do not have an ATI video card.  NVIDIA
[13:31] <arca_vorago> 16.04, cairo-dock. Just did aptg update/upgrade, and when I rebooted it lost my xorg config and the monitors show up in the displays but I can't move them back to where they should be, they seem to be "locked"... any ideas?
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Dorf, hang on let me check
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Dorf, the bowser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
[13:33] <Dorf> that's what i have
[13:35] <stakewinner00> EriC^, using /bin/bash worked, but apt was using a different abi that the system doesn't understand, so i can not reinstall the packages, and i'm reinstalling the SO to fix it...
[13:37] <justxux> arca_vorago,I heard many people have problems with "apt-get", try to use "apt instead"
[13:38] <arca_vorago> wait, so apt-get is being depricated?
[13:39] <BluesKaj> no apt alone is merely a wrapper for apt-get afaik
[13:40] <markdark> I am trying to get the ip address as soon as it is assigned to the machine by dhcp. I thought I add a post-up command to /etc/network/interfaces on eth0, but than the IP is not yet there
[13:40] <markdark> any ideas where I should get the IP as soon as it is assigned?
[13:40] <OerHeks> for now, apt-get and apt live together
[13:42] <arca_vorago> I don't think it's related to that though, I've had a pretty good experience on ubuntu since 15.10, but one consistent problem is it occasionally loses the xorg and then configing it is a pain. Where is 16.04 storing it xorg so I can back it up?
[13:43] <BluesKaj> arca_vorago, here's an explanation , looks like I was mistaken it's quite a step forward http://askubuntu.com/questions/445384/what-is-the-difference-between-apt-and-apt-get
[13:44] <lyze> Hey guys, could somebody help me to completely uninstall grub and fix the windows bootloader?
[13:44] <Ben64> arca_vorago: if you have an xorg.conf, it'd probably be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:45] <Ben64> lyze: yes, someone in ##windows should be able to help you with that
[13:45] <lyze> Ben64, alright, thanks.
[13:47] <cow_2001> how come `info info` sits here in the nonfree package? http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/texinfo-doc-nonfree/filelist
[13:47] <cow_2001> that's pretty weird
[13:50] <OerHeks> cow_2001,  Texinfo is not in the public domain; it is copyrighted and there are restrictions on its distribution
[13:51] <cow_2001> it's under the GFDL
[13:51] <cow_2001> no?
[13:53] <cow_2001> OerHeks: ^^^
[13:53] <nok_> guys could somebody help?  How do I setup my HDD partitions using GParted for both OSes?
[13:54] <OerHeks> cow_2001, it is, but you referred to texinfo-doc-nonfree, that is texinfo *and* docs
[13:54] <nok_> GParted couldn't detect the partitions the old W98 installer made
[13:55] <cow_2001> OerHeks: i am terribly confused right now. could you explain further?
[13:55] <OerHeks> from debian: non-free archive area contains supplemental packages intended to work with the Debian distribution that do not comply with the DFSG ..
[13:56] <OerHeks> not sure what you want to know ..
[13:58] <cow_2001> OerHeks: i don't understand why is it nonfree
[13:59] <lyze_phone_> Ben64 they cant help ^^
[13:59] <Ben64> they're the only ones who can
[14:00] <lyze_phone_> grubs now messed up and only shows a "minimal bash like line editing" thibg ....
[14:01] <cow_2001> OerHeks: so it originates with debian shenanigans. hmm.. but which part of it doesn't meet DFSG criteria?
[14:01] <sstory> 14.04LTS with LaserJet 4100. Printing from a Java app.  The printer says Default Paper Size:Letter, Tray 2 (Letter). Yet when I print what should be a letter it always wants to print to tray 1. Any thoughts?
[14:01] <cow_2001> oh
[14:01] <cow_2001> i see
[14:01] <cow_2001> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines#GFDL
[14:02] <OerHeks> ah,  content under this license must be separately contained in an additional "non-free" repository which is not officially considered part of Debian.
[14:07] <norech> hi, since i used boot usb of ubuntu 16.4 i cannot reformat the microsd
[14:07] <norech> i had a similar problem
[14:07] <norech> and i solved it with the same application by the erase disk function
[14:07] <norech> but qhen i try that
[14:08] <norech> it says
[14:08] <cow_2001> OerHeks: thank you for your help! :)
[14:08] <norech> org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.gi._glib.GError: Traceback (most recent call last):
[14:08] <norech>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/dbus/service.py", line 707, in _message_cb
[14:08] <norech>     retval = candidate_method(self, *args, **keywords)
[14:08] <norech>   File "/usr/share/usb-creator/usb-creator-helper", line 237, in Format
[14:08] <norech>     part.call_set_type_sync('0x0c', no_options, None)
[14:08] <norech> gi._glib.GError: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Error.Failed: Error setting partition flags on /dev/sdb2: Command-line `sfdisk --change-id "/dev/sdb" 2 0x0c' exited with non-zero exit status 1:
[14:08] <OerHeks> cow_2001, your Q made it clear to me to, thanks
[14:14] <norech> mmh with some voodoo
[14:14] <norech> using the disk management tool of gnome
[14:14] <norech> i succeded in erasing all partitions
[14:15] <norech> and unallocate all space and than formatted in fat
[14:27] <lyze_phone_> can somebody help me with grub? http://i.imgur.com/ggRmZcw.jpg   appears when I boot.
[14:32] <OerHeks> lyze_phone_, easy fix is bootrepair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:33] <wyre> is there anyway to reinstall apt-get from a cdlive?
[14:33] <wyre> I've mounted /mnt* /proc /sys
[14:33] <wyre> but now I need to reinstall apt-get
[14:33] <lyze_phone_> OerHeks thanks ... will try to get it to work with it again
[14:34] <ducasse> wyre: chroot into your install and use dpkg to install apt-get.
[14:34] <OerHeks> reinstall apt-get, never heard such thing ..
[14:35] <wyre> mmm
[14:35] <wyre> ducasse, which is the way to install with dpkg?
[14:35] <wyre> and where is apt-get.deb?
[14:35] <OerHeks> wyre, what is the reason you need to reinstall apt ??
[14:36] <wyre> fsck has deleted sources.list and apt.conf.d
[14:36] <ducasse> wyre: then fix _that_.
[14:37] <wyre> ducasse, how? xD
[14:38] <ducasse> wyre: restore them from backup.
[14:38] <OerHeks> if fsck deletes those files, what is the condition of your hdd?? see disks > s.m.a.r.t.
[14:41] <Admin__> hey guys.. good day.. very strange problem.. i am running some ffmpeg scripts that capture and segment some videos ... it is a live stream.... why after about 24- 27 hours all of the scripts get killed on my ubuntu system ? then i restart and they again go for 24 hours.. then stop again .. sooooo ODDD!!
[14:42] <wyre> ducasse, from where? /var/cache?
[14:42] <Guest34997> hi all
[14:43] <Guest34997> блять как поменять ник
[14:43] <lyze_phone_> !ru | Guest34997
[14:43] <Guest34997>  /join #ubuntu-r
[14:43] <Guest34997>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[14:45] <Admin__> anyone have a clue ?
[14:46] <davido_> If keepassX and universal access/bounce keys have an interaction bug, who should that be reported to?
[14:46] <ducasse> wyre: if you don't do regular backups you have a bigger problem :) in that case you need to rebuild sources.list manually. see https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ for example.
[14:48] <aLeSD> i all
[14:49] <aLeSD> is possible to install boost 1.50 in ubuntu 16.04 ?
[14:50] <AndChat|526161> Hello
[14:50] <AndChat|526161> Ubuntu is a nice distro
[14:51] <AndChat|526161> Anyone use fedora
[14:51] <wyre> ducasse, OerHeks can I mount /etc in /mnt/etc?
[14:52] <nacc> AndChat|526161: fedora is offtopic here, i'd say
[14:52] <AndChat|526161> Sorry nacc
[14:52] <AndChat|526161> I apologize for that
[14:52] <Pici> AndChat|526161: I imagine the folks in #fedora use fedora.
[14:52]  * tgm4883 tips fedora, m'lady
[14:52] <AndChat|526161> I see pici
[14:53] <AlexQ> Hi. I wanted to disable screen shutdown when laptop lid closes, so I made a copy of /etc/UPower/UPower.conf and modified the line to ignoreLid=true. Unfortunately, after reboot I got only laptop screen resolutions up to 800x600 (:O), so I reverted to backup copy and rebooted, but, to my surprise, it was still fu**ed up. What should I do? Remove some cache files?
[14:53] <ducasse> wyre: mount the root filesystem somewhere, the copy across what you need.
[14:53] <AndChat|526161> BTW I mainly use ubuntu
[14:54] <ducasse> wyre: *then
[14:54] <AndChat|526161> There are few distros that give u experience like ubuntu
[14:54] <nacc> aLeSD: i think boost is at 1.58 in 16.04?
[14:54] <aLeSD> nacc, yes it is
[14:54] <BluesKaj-ph> Checking phone irc
[14:54] <nacc> AndChat|526161: do you have a support question? general discussion should go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:55] <BluesKaj-ph> OK done
[14:55] <tgm4883> Is there some form of "guest-tools" for qemu-kvm guests?
[14:55] <tgm4883> specifically, for windows guests
[14:55] <nacc> tgm4883: what are guest-tools?
[14:55] <nacc> tgm4883: *is
[14:56] <tgm4883> nacc: vm hardware driver support for the guest OS
[14:56] <AndChat|526161> No naac I came here for general chat
[14:56] <tgm4883> nacc: eg. display drivers and such
[14:56] <AndChat|526161> Is this the right channel
[14:56] <k1l> AndChat|526161: for general chat better use #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:56] <wyre> ducasse, do you mean /dev/sda* ¿
[14:56] <AndChat|526161> Ok
[14:57] <ducasse> wyre: i don't know where your root filesystem is, but probably yes.
[14:57] <nacc> tgm4883: does that imply passthru & direct hw access of the devices?
[14:57] <AndChat|526161> BTW kubuntu is same as ubuntu
[14:57] <AndChat|526161> ?
[14:58] <k1l> AndChat|526161: same base, but with kde on top
[14:58] <AndChat|526161> I see
[14:58] <AndChat|526161> BTW its name is funny
[14:59] <wyre> ducasse, and how can I connect my wifi from cli?
[14:59] <wyre> (with network manager) ?
[14:59] <AndChat|526161> Kubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu lol
[14:59] <Guest45024> lubuntu
[14:59] <tgm4883> nacc: no. virtual machines provide "software" hardware (wth did I just say). for instance, you can add drives as virtio, but your guest OS needs to be able to understand what virtio is to use the drive. Similarly, kvm has a software video card that it provides to the guest OS, but it gets just basic support in the guest OS.
[14:59] <nacc> tgm4883: ah i see what you mean now
[15:00] <tgm4883> (granted, basic support allows most resolutions, but I'd like to see some form of auto-resizing or at least custom resolutions)
[15:00] <nacc> tgm4883: you're asking if kvm has that for windows?
[15:00] <ducasse> wyre: why do you need to do it from the cli? use a live usb, and you can use the gui.
[15:00] <tgm4883> nacc: yea
[15:00] <nacc> aLeSD: I don't think there is an official way to go back 1.50 unfortunately
[15:00] <tgm4883> nacc: trying hard to get rid of vmware-workstation here, would rather not go to virtualbox
[15:01] <ducasse> tgm4883: there are several virtio drivers for windows, for storage, networking etc.
[15:01] <nacc> tgm4883: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Guest_Support_Status#Windows_Family
[15:01] <wyre> ducasse, but if I'm connected in muy live? also I'm connected in my root filesystem mounted?
[15:01] <nacc> tgm4883: it would appear that what ducasse is saying is what most people do, virtio drivers installed in the windows guest
[15:02] <wyre> because I get the message that says it cannot be downloaded the package
[15:02] <tgm4883> nacc: ducasse thanks, I'll check those out
[15:02] <ducasse> wyre: of course.
[15:03] <davido_> The gist of the problem is: With Universal Access | Typing | Bounce Keys enabled, KeepassX's hotkey password entry mechanism is thwarted; usernames or passwords that have the same character more than once will be detected as a bounce before being pasted to their target.
[15:05] <davido_> So when one uses the "Autotype Shortcut" from keepassx, if they have bounce keys turned on, odds are good the password will be rejected by the target. However, using clipboard-based copy/paste works.
[15:06] <nacc> davido_: you could start with a bug against keepassx, and it will get re-routed from there, probably
[15:07] <davido_> nacc : I think you're probably right. I don't pretend to know the underlying mechanism, but it seems that keepassx should be able to detect if bouncekey is enabled, and if so, do its password entry a little more slowly. :)
[15:07] <nacc> davido_: right, and if it isn't, maybe the keepassx maintainer(s)/contributor(s) will know how to route it to the access folks
[15:08] <davido_> k, thanks.
[15:10] <davido_> As a final question: Any idea where the Universal | Typing | BounceKey setting is stored?
[15:15] <ryclik> So is the socks4-server package dante or what?
[15:15] <ryclik> installed it but I can't seem to find anything on that
[15:15] <lyze> Hey guys, I've tried to repair grub with the boot-repair-disk. It didn't help. http://paste.ubuntu.com/16708159/
[15:15] <nacc> davido_: would be guessing but mabye ~/.config or ~/.local
[15:16] <nacc> ryclik: 'dante' ?
[15:16] <camroncade> morning'
[15:17] <nacc> ryclik: what were you looking for? it installs rsockd and sockd binaries