[00:00] <ducasse> JohnMcClain: i'm going to sleep now , though ;)
[00:02] <JohnMcClain> that's not to a vote?
[00:03] <ducasse> JohnMcClain: sorry, i've been up far too long :) you all have fun, though :)
[00:34] <i_and_i> good evening
[00:34] <john_s> this is probably the worst evening of my life.
[00:34] <i_and_i> how so?
[00:35] <john_s> I seriously had a better time when I broke my feet (heelbones) and was locked up in a police cellar.
[00:35] <bekks> john_s: then why do you even try to install wine on a live cd? :P
[00:36] <john_s> just because someone decides that installing i386 on a live dvd should be impossible....
[00:36] <wdonkey> hello, what would be the course of action someone that had 14.04 installed, then decided to try matte's graphical interface, and now wants to update ubuntu to the newest LTS should do ?
[00:36] <john_s> or what about this one
[00:36] <bekks> john_s: And now you know why :D
[00:36] <john_s> no
[00:36] <john_s> someone decided that
[00:36] <john_s> there is no reason for it.
[00:36] <john_s> I got around it in the end.
[00:36] <bekks> Cool, so stop whining and continue :D
[00:37] <john_s> yes so I get to use the rescue session for 16.04
[00:37] <john_s> it pops up a menu
[00:37] <john_s> one of those blueish menus
[00:37] <john_s> I select "root prompt" which is fine.
[00:37] <bekks> And whats the outcome of your effort - in short?
[00:37] <john_s> but after issueing a few commands it keeps popping back up the menu while still accepting commands from the prompt.
[00:38] <john_s> and, it tells me, all the while I am trying to do stuff, that is going to continue the boot process now.
[00:38] <john_s> that's the rescue system, which is completely useless.
[00:38] <bekks> so you typed "exit" at some point there.
[00:38] <john_s> no I didn' t.
[00:38] <Bashing-om> wdonkey: As 14.04 is a LTS release, one must 1st ak " what do I hope to gain " in release 16.04 rhat I might loose from 14.04 ?
[00:38] <bekks> john_s: Otherwise it would not continue to boot.
[00:38] <john_s> a rescue system should be dependable.
[00:39] <john_s> ah, but in that case I wouldn' t be able to type anything now would I?
[00:39] <john_s> and get the output of that as well.
[00:39] <bekks> It is and it works as expected for me.
[00:39] <john_s> so wrong.
[00:39] <john_s> yes for you and your kitten, but not for me and a lot of other people probably.
[00:39] <bekks> So stop whining and file a bug then.
[00:39] <john_s> it should be dependable and it isn' t
[00:39] <john_s> why don' t you stop whining about my relating.
[00:40] <bekks> *plonk*
[00:40] <bekks> Gotvha.
[00:40] <bekks> Gotcha even.
[00:41] <john_s> for some reason you always have to tell people what to do, it is never okay what they do, isn' t it.
[00:42] <wdonkey> Bashing-om, i used to do just that, but at some point things evolve and if you stay behind your release stops being supported and you're left with no option but a complete re-install
[00:42] <bekks> wdonkey: 14.04 is supported until 2019. So no worries yet.
[00:43] <john_s> next up I have lost my opensuse dvd, no ones fault, but the Ubuntu dvds don't have a rescue mode and so I have to wait another 10 minutes before the DVD is loaded again.... just so I can merge a snapshot back :(.
[00:44] <john_s> then I am copying the snapshot as a backup to a stick, just to be sure LVM doesn' t mess things up.
[00:44] <john_s> I plug in a DVD player to the same USB hub as the stick.
[00:44] <john_s> stick doesn't have enough power anymore, backup breaks off and I have to restart it at 90%.
[00:44] <wdonkey> bekks, because when i try to upgrade it doesnt work, and maybe in 2019 i'll have less patience and time than i have now, i would like to figure this out sooner than later
[00:45] <john_s> cause Linux tools never really allow for any errors, they immediately exit.
[00:45] <john_s> no way to restart anything either....
[00:47] <john_s> the backup fails AGAIN and I am at wit' s end again, this is now a powered USB hub.
[00:51] <usr13> john_s: What are  you working on?
[00:52] <john_s> I was trying to get an nVidia GTX 950 working but I made the mistake to follow troubleshooting advice here.
[00:52] <john_s> :p.
[00:52] <usr13> john_s: Really?
[00:52] <usr13> john_s: Well, if you got some bad advice and broke something, why not just fix it?
[00:52] <john_s> doing stuff on my own is usually just 500x more efficient than doing it in a channel with other people.... that usually just object to anything you want to do.
[00:53] <john_s> because the tools I require to fix stuff also break.
[00:53] <usr13> john_s: Then, why are you here?
[00:53] <john_s> to talk to you I guess.
[00:53] <john_s> not to get advice lol.
[00:53] <usr13> Oh ok.  Well good to talk to you. :)
[00:54] <usr13> john_s: This is support channel for Ubuntu.
[00:54] <usr13> john_s: So do you want to fix your video driver?
[00:55] <JohnMcClain> I got a bunch of ubuntu help here this morning that would have taken me days otherwise
[00:55] <john_s> yeah but I'm not you I guess.
[00:55] <mattwj2002> hello all
[00:55] <usr13> JohnMcClain: As have lots of others.  Thanks for the positive comment.
[00:55] <mattwj2002> whoever makes a graphics card update tool that is higher than vga should be shot on site :)
[00:56] <john_s> the only way I will ever be able to fix my graphics driver is to not be here.
[00:56] <mattwj2002> dang intel graphics tool
[00:56] <mattwj2002> :)
[00:56] <john_s> or people will send me into woods I can never get out of.
[00:56] <usr13> JohnMcClain: But I'm glad everyone does not chime in with their storries of help and support because the channel would be overwhelmed.
[00:56] <mattwj2002> luckily figured out you could just hit enter
[00:56] <mattwj2002> :)
[00:57] <mattwj2002> hopefully this fixes the issue :-s
[00:57] <john_s> I don't think you need to fear any overwhelming that has never taken place.
[00:57] <john_s> people self-regulate you know.
[00:57] <john_s> If too many do it, other people will stop.
[00:58] <john_s> So that's just fearing something that will never happen....
[00:58] <usr13> john_s: /join #ubuntu-discuss
[00:58] <john_s> I don't really take orders at this point, sorry.
[00:59] <usr13> john_s: Yes, people fix their problems and move on.
[00:59] <john_s> Shop is closed :).
[00:59] <mattwj2002> group can I get support in here for ubuntu mate if I need it?
[00:59] <blair_> Hey, I'm testing an irssi script. Can someone write "blair_ $whatever_you_want"
[00:59] <usr13> mattwj2002: Sure.
[00:59] <john_s> blair_ witch
[00:59] <mattwj2002> awesome I am not even sure if it is an offical distro yet
[00:59] <blair_> Thanks john_s
[00:59] <john_s> :).
[01:00] <blair_> Haha! I just got the reference
[01:00] <john_s> hahaha. slow! :p.
[01:01] <mattwj2002> guys I can't get passed vga mode with this dang server!
[01:01] <mattwj2002> :(
[01:01] <mattwj2002> it is a Dell R710
[01:01] <mattwj2002> it has intel graphics.....I am using ubuntu mate everything I have tired no luck
[01:03] <Bashing-om> mattwj2002: Do I read that correctly, as hybrid graphics ? Intel and ATI R 710 ?
[01:04] <mattwj2002> Bashing-om: it is a Dell R710 server
[01:04] <mattwj2002> not an ATI R710 :)
[01:04] <usr13> mattwj2002: lsmod |& nc termbin.com 9999
[01:04] <usr13> mattwj2002: And send resulting URL
[01:05] <john_s> now that is neat :).
[01:05] <usr13> mattwj2002: What do  you mean by "VGA mode"?
[01:05] <kiruhan2> heeey
[01:06] <john_s> what's up kiru
[01:06] <mattwj2002> 640x480 graphics is the only resolution available
[01:06] <mattwj2002> :)
[01:06] <mattwj2002> oops
[01:06] <mattwj2002> :(
[01:06] <usr13> mattwj2002: Oh, ok.
[01:06] <kiruhan2> guys. Is there someone with discord  ?
[01:06] <usr13> mattwj2002: So, let's have a look.
[01:06] <usr13> mattwj2002: Ok?
[01:06] <mattwj2002> yup one second
[01:07] <mattwj2002> :)
[01:07] <john_s> I have a lot of discord at times.
[01:07] <mattwj2002> http://termbin.com/aywu
[01:07] <mattwj2002> :D
[01:07] <mattwj2002> the intel graphics ppa is not signed
[01:07] <mattwj2002> :-s
[01:08] <kiruhan2> sooo. iam talking about this  **https://discordapp.com/**
[01:08] <john_s> anyone know how to turn off the signing requirement?
[01:08] <john_s> I mean the security for apt
[01:08] <kiruhan2> about sudo ?
[01:08] <mattwj2002> W: GPG error: https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/16.04/main xenial InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 56A3DEF863961D39
[01:08] <usr13> mattwj2002: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:09] <xangua> !gpgerr | mattwj2002
[01:09] <mattwj2002> yeah
[01:09] <mattwj2002> http://termbin.com/w9t3
[01:10] <john_s> jesus christ now my DVD writing also fails.
[01:10] <mattwj2002> I just applied two updates
[01:10] <mattwj2002> reboot time :)
[01:10] <usr13> mattwj2002: Ok, good>
[01:10] <kiruhan2> see ya )
[01:11] <mattwj2002> I am on a different computer
[01:11] <mattwj2002> :)
[01:11] <kiruhan2> wow. ok
[01:11] <mattwj2002> I am ssh'd into this sucker :)
[01:11] <usr13> mattwj2002: So, you resolved the GPG errors?
[01:12] <mattwj2002> usr13: yeah it says it has weak whatever but I was able to get a few updates installed
[01:12] <mattwj2002> I am hoping to fix this graphic issue still
[01:12] <mattwj2002> my server is rebooting!
[01:13] <john_s> I would love the day when something would actually reliably work. In fact, I would pay for it!.
[01:13] <usr13> mattwj2002: Ok, yea.  Do all your updates and then we can try and fix graphic issue.
[01:13] <mattwj2002> sounds good usr13
[01:14] <mattwj2002> back still having issues
[01:14] <usr13> lspci |& nc termbin.com 9999
[01:14] <john_s> now comes the test: we will merge a snapshot back into a raid 1 LVM volume.
[01:14] <xar-> lift with your knees! ;)
[01:15] <JewBanker3> Adolf Hitler FEEL THE POWER, SEE THE GLORY!
[01:15] <squinty> ops! JewBanker
[01:15] <usr13> mattwj2002: lspci |& nc termbin.com 9999
[01:15] <mattwj2002> http://termbin.com/n160
[01:15] <mattwj2002> yup I saw it
[01:17] <john_s> and it works! Success! At least it starts.
[01:18] <usr13> mattwj2002: sudo apt-get update
[01:18] <stimp> ooboontoo
[01:18] <stimp> is this where the ooboontoo are
[01:18] <usr13> mattwj2002: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-mga
[01:18] <stimp> look! it's my ooboontoo friend!
[01:18] <mattwj2002> okay usr13
[01:18] <stimp> we do smol oooboontoo things together, with ooboonto os
[01:18] <mattwj2002> reboot?
[01:18] <hentai_lizard> yoin the server
[01:18] <hentai_lizard> YOIN
[01:19] <stimp> yoin the ooboontoo
[01:19] <usr13> mattwj2002: Yea, after it's done.
[01:19] <hentai_lizard> oo buu nn tuu
[01:19] <usr13> mattwj2002: Let us know....
[01:19] <mattwj2002> rebooting :D
[01:19] <stimp> i have help to obundudu
[01:19] <mattwj2002> will do
[01:19] <hentai_lizard> stimp can i yoin the server
[01:19] <stimp> it's not ooboondoto
[01:19] <mattwj2002> so it isn't intel graphics?
[01:19] <stimp> Obundudu is different from ubuntu?
[01:20] <hentai_lizard> uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuubooontooo
[01:20] <mattwj2002> I have never heard of matrox or whatever it is called
[01:20] <usr13> Obundudu, Smobundu, what's the difference?
[01:20] <usr13> Did it reboot?
[01:20] <mattwj2002> rebooting at the moment
[01:20] <mattwj2002> :)
[01:20] <stimp> systemd
[01:21] <hentai_lizard> yenital yousting
[01:21] <stimp> this is where is update , the free "OBUNDUDU"
[01:21] <hentai_lizard> unity desktop
[01:21] <lukkan99> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/183449927047708672/234470082355396608/Screenshot_10.png
[01:21] <hentai_lizard> stimp uses unity desktop!
[01:21] <stimp> no!
[01:21] <stimp> this is lies!
[01:21] <hentai_lizard> yes!
[01:21] <hentai_lizard> it is true!
[01:21] <stimp> unity is botnet!
[01:22] <hentai_lizard> stimp uses botnet
[01:22] <stimp> never
[01:22] <hentai_lizard> always
[01:22] <stimp> debian/xfce master race
[01:22]  * mattwj2002 prefers skynet ;)
[01:22] <usr13> mattwj2002: xserver-xorg-video-mga is "Xorg  driver  for Matrox video cards".  See: https://www.howtoinstall.co/en/ubuntu/xenial/xserver-xorg-video-mga
[01:22] <hentai_lizard> ooo nity
[01:22] <john_s> don' t remember what matrox is.
[01:22] <JewLies> Adolf Hitler - "You Said I Was A Dreamer" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGqG3grTrg
[01:23] <mattwj2002> thanks usr13
[01:23] <stimp> Official "OBUNDUDU" Amazon Botner (Free download) [FREE]
[01:23] <mattwj2002> it worked
[01:23] <mattwj2002> :D
[01:23] <usr13> mattwj2002: Ok. good.
[01:23] <stimp> install gentoo
[01:23] <mattwj2002> sweetness :)
[01:24] <usr13> john_s: It's a video card.  (One that mattwj2002 has).
[01:24] <mattwj2002> I probably won't use the graphics a lot but it will be nice when I do know that it is fixed
[01:24] <mattwj2002> :)
[01:24] <usr13> john_s: VGA compatible controller: Matrox Electronics Systems Ltd. MGA G200eW WPCM450
[01:24] <mattwj2002> *now not know
[01:24] <john_s> usr13: well that I remember, I just didn't remember they were their own chipset manufactorer.
[01:24] <usr13> mattwj2002: Oh yea..
[01:25] <usr13> john_s: I don't know much about either, but google does ;)
[01:25] <mattwj2002> lspci was the key :D
[01:25] <usr13> Yup
[01:25] <stimp> hentai_lizard submits to the botnet!
[01:26] <john_s> usr13: if you want to know, my GTX 950 is not getting loaded in glxinfo.
[01:26] <mattwj2002> this server was nice for the price
[01:26] <john_s> usr13: apparently I need a newer kernel but the one I tried didn't boot.
[01:26] <mattwj2002> free is always good :)
[01:26] <usr13> mattwj2002: Well, you have to correctly identify the hardware and then go about trying to access it properly.
[01:27] <mattwj2002> granted the hard drives were bad....and I had to reseat the memory and what not but now it appears to work
[01:27] <john_s> usr13: but unpacking stuff when I have a snapshot loaded on the same disk as the root volume is not a good idea, so I thought to merge the snapshot first.
[01:27] <mattwj2002> true dat usr13
[01:27] <usr13> john_s: lspci |& termbin.com 9999
[01:27] <john_s> no
[01:27] <john_s> however merging the snapshot takes half of my life.
[01:27] <usr13> john_s: Ok.
[01:27] <JewBanker666> There will come a day, when all the lies will collapse under their own weight and the truth will triumph again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s "Adolf Hitler's Warning"
[01:28] <stimp> gento
[01:28] <john_s> mostly because the opensuse dvd was gone, CRAP why can't I burn some DVD?????
[01:28] <usr13> john_s: merge on....
[01:29] <usr13> john_s: Maybe you should try another distro?
[01:29] <john_s> then the kubuntu stick I have that I got to boot in rescue mode didn't work.
[01:29] <john_s> so I had to reboot into live dvd
[01:29] <john_s> then making a backup to the usb stick fails
[01:29] <kyfish> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s "Adolf Hitler's Warning" (YOU CAN'T CENSOR THE TRUTH.)
[01:29] <john_s> now writing a dvd fails.
[01:30] <john_s> the other DVD writer won't even read the dual layer disc.
[01:30] <john_s> the other one is loading the kubuntu dvd
[01:30] <john_s> that's already 3 different dvd writers
[01:30] <john_s> one left
[01:31] <usr13> john_s: You don't have to tell us every detail.
[01:31] <john_s> well you don't have to tell me what to do constantly you know....
[01:31] <usr13> ok
[01:31] <usr13> It's a deal.
[01:33] <john_s> forgot, the 4th dvd player is with the police (they like to steal those things) :p.
[01:34] <john_s> lol
[01:34] <john_s> sorry
[01:35] <red8878> It looks like the Internet has exposed our lies. We're going down fast. Adolf Hitler; Feel the power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fAu3H-kkyg
[01:35] <mattwj2002> what is with the dang hitler crap?
[01:36] <cygnus1412> hi everyone
[01:36] <mattwj2002> hey cygnus1412
[01:38] <cygnus1412> i have an issue with sound with ubuntu 14.04
[01:38] <usr13> !sound | cygnus1412
[01:39] <ravenM>  Holocaust Hoax & Zionist WW2 Lies Exposed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxpIsep4160 This documentary was banned in many countries in an attempt to 'hide the truth'. A must watch for all.
[01:39] <Bashing-om> mattwj2002: "do not feed the trolls " Ops will take in the situation .
[01:39] <john_s> that' s not feeding any trolls, they are bots.
[01:40] <mattwj2002> sorry wasn't trying to feed the trolls
[01:40] <john_s> have some self respect mattwj2002
[01:40] <john_s> you don't have to apologize for everything :p.
[01:41] <cygnus1412> when i resume from sleep the sound output chnages from speakers to "analog output"
[01:41] <mattwj2002> sorry about that haha :P
[01:41] <cygnus1412> and i have to to sound settings to change it manually to speakers
[01:43] <krag> We've been lied to on massive scales by jew supremacists using money power to enslave and destroy the entire planet.
[01:44] <john_s> so 2 dvds ruined, what do I do now? Oh, troubleshoot in Windows 10... :(. However merging a 4GB snapshot takes about an hour :(. Last time I did that I guess. Advice: do not create snapshots on the same disk as the origin.
[01:44] <usr13> john_s: What are you doing with DVDs?
[01:45] <john_s> usr13: just trying to burn the opensuse dvd I can't find anymore.
[01:45] <usr13> john_s: Are trying to create install media?
[01:45] <usr13> john_s: If so, why not just use a thumb drive?
[01:45] <john_s> usr13: just replacing a disk.
[01:46] <john_s> usr13: cause I don't have thumb drives lying about and they are not really suited for having many of them.
[01:46] <JohnMcClain> I like using thumb drives for going 'live'
[01:47] <john_s> I use them for installing simple system on them but then the writes mess up the allocation algorithm and the thing slows down to a crawl.
[01:47] <john_s> also I don't have usb3...
[01:47] <usr13> john_s: But you can just keep the ISOs on your computer and dd to a thumb drive when you need to use one of them.
[01:48] <JohnMcClain> DVD 24x (fastest) write speed is 33.24MB/s. USB 2.0 write speed is up to 35MB/s.
[01:48] <JohnMcClain> sorry. that's writing.
[01:48] <Retr0> I've always used a thumb drive
[01:48] <john_s> that would just be too troublesome, sorry...
[01:48] <john_s> I might do that with sd cards though, but too slow and last time it didn't work.
[01:48] <ikonia> SD is quicker than DVD
[01:49] <JohnMcClain> fastest DVD is 24x? It still caps out at 32MBS
[01:49] <usr13> I seldom even use DVDs for DVD Videos, thumb drives are just fine for that too.
[01:49] <usr13> in most cases.
[01:49] <john_s> not if you have to write them first using some 7MB/s controller and
[01:49] <JohnMcClain> SD cards go up to 50MBS
[01:50] <john_s> IF the opensuse dvd has a rescue mode that is fast, it takes less than a minute to boot it anyway.
[01:50] <john_s> maybe the debian dvds have it.... I think they do?
[01:51] <john_s> what is faster, taking a DVD out of a map, and running the 50MB rescue system off of it (so to speak), or first writing it using a running system and then reboot and then boot it?
[01:52] <john_s> also, what is the point of a rescue system if you need a running system to create it every time...
[01:53] <john_s> seriously didn't expect a 4GB snapshot merge to take an hour .... :(.
[01:54] <ikonia> john_s: I'm not sure what you're atually asking of the ubuntu support community ?
[01:55] <john_s> well I don't think I asked you, but if the others don't have a problem with me talking to them that' s fine with me. Also, this is just the aftermath of the advice I got here.
[01:55] <ikonia> again, I'm not sure what you're asking the ubuntu community (this channel)
[01:55] <john_s> again, see the above line.
[01:55] <JohnMcClain> He wants to vent and wants validation, I think.
[01:55] <ikonia> john_s: - the channel is for ubuntu support discussion, so I'd appreciate it if you could clarify what you're asking of the ubuntu support community please
[01:56] <john_s> what does validation even mean?
[01:56] <ikonia> john_s: lets cut to the chase, what do you want from this channel ?
[01:56] <soralin> hey all, I was in here yesterday with a rando mfreezing problem on ubuntu 16.04, I was recommended to get journald persisitant logging going.
[01:56] <john_s> there is no chase.
[01:56] <soralin> because cronlog and syslog weren't showing anything interesting and I tested all my hardware, it all seems to be fine
[01:57] <john_s> this is the aftermath of spending two hours on getting a GTX 950 running in X with D3D support.
[01:57] <ikonia> john_s: ok, then please be quiet unless you actually have something that is ontopic for this channel please
[01:57] <soralin> so I just got another freeze and here's what journald gives me: not much
[01:57] <john_s> I would appreciate it if you didn't try to shut people up for no reason Ikonia.
[01:57] <elGALLO_> anyone know how to give other computers permission to see files? Ubuntu server no GUI, mac OS X finder
[01:57] <ikonia> john_s: I'm asking you to be quiet unless it's ontopic due to the channels rules and guidelines
[01:57] <ikonia> !guidelines | john_s
[01:58] <ikonia> elGALLO_: how is the mac reading the file systems ?
[01:58] <john_s> I don't think there is any reason to be quiet Ikonia if no one takes offense and if the talk actually does not take away from what anyone else needs from this channel either, please.
[01:58] <JohnMcClain> I know this is a stupid question, but would a PHP application see difficulty in upgrading from Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04?
[01:58] <elGALLO_> pfft idk, i used http://askubuntu.com/questions/463486/can-no-longer-use-screen-share-to-connect-mac-to-ubuntu-since-upgrading-to-14-04 last time
[01:58] <ikonia> john_s: the topic is ubuntu support discussion, check the guidelines ubottu just sent you, please stick to that
[01:59] <elGALLO_> but that was with 14.04 LTS server with a desktop GUi
[01:59] <john_s> yes and I am using an Ubuntu system and I am troubleshooting how to get back on where I was before and reporting on that.
[01:59] <elGALLO_> not 16.04.1 server CLI only
[01:59] <elGALLO_> now*
[01:59] <ikonia> john_s: ok - so ask the question you need help with, rather than just talk into the air
[01:59] <ikonia> JohnMcClain: ubutnu 14.04 uses php 5 ubuntu 16.04 uses php 7
[01:59] <ikonia> JohnMcClain: there are differences
[01:59] <john_s> Just because you weren't here does not mean it is not relevant to this channel.
[01:59] <JohnMcClain> Oh. I thought I could run 5 on both.
[01:59] <ikonia> john_s: either ask the question or please be quiet,
[02:00] <soralin> so heres the only thing journald gave me that was missing from syslog/cronlog:
[02:00] <john_s> this question has already been asked, could you please stop polluting this channel yourself with senseless noise?
[02:00] <soralin> Nov 19 18:35:40 Shiva systemd[1]: Started Network Manager Script Dispatcher Service.
[02:00] <ikonia> JohnMcClain: you can, you just need to specify the php version in 16.04
[02:00] <JohnMcClain> john_s: It's really hard to get ikonia's attention when you're arguing with others
[02:00] <Bashing-om> JohnMcClain: Might also look at the release notes : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes . I can accept a lot of differences between upstart and systemd in managing php .
[02:00] <JohnMcClain> ikonia: Thanks
[02:00] <soralin> that was about 5 seconds before my crash, and that doesnt show up in syslog
[02:00] <ikonia> john_s: what is the actual question
[02:01] <john_s> I have no interest in asking this question of you Ikonia, the question has already been asked and you do not need to jump in.
[02:01] <JohnMcClain> Bashing-om: Sorry... Upstart and Systemd?
[02:02] <JohnMcClain> If I read that link, that will explain it in specifics?
[02:02] <JohnMcClain> Neat. Thanks!
[02:02] <soralin> so yeah, I cant figure out whats making my system freeze anymore, Ive troubleshooted all the way I can go
[02:04] <Bashing-om> JohnMcClain: In 14.04 the initiate system os upstart, while 16.04 is systemd .. also in 16.04 systemd controlls the services .
[02:04] <elGALLO_>   anyone have an idea how to set up http://askubuntu.com/questions/463486/can-no-longer-use-screen-share-to-connect-mac-to-ubuntu-since-upgrading-to-14-04 via CLi?
[02:05] <soralin> atm I have a bash script written to pip the latest 30 mins of journald out to a text file, Ill do that for the next 3-4 crashes, see if I can see a pattern
[02:07] <soralin> I've checked memtest, SSD health, PSU voltages, syslog/cronlog/journald dont have anything suspicious happening during crash, and my GPU works fine on windows
[02:08] <soralin> all that remains is maybe it's just my mobo finally getting old, do you think?
[02:08] <soralin> oh also GPU/CPU temps are fine
[02:15] <zztopless> hi, does anyone know the switch to skip all duplicates (ie don't over-ride existing files/folders) when using 7zip from console?  Using the following to extract al 7zip files in a directory: find -type f -name '*.7z' -exec 7z x {} \;
[02:18] <sriniwas> Hello
[02:19] <sriniwas> can someone tell me where I can download snaps to install offline
[02:19] <mattwj2002> can someone explain snaps to me?
[02:19] <mattwj2002> :)
[02:19] <mattwj2002> is that a replacement for .deb packages?
[02:19] <sriniwas> yes
[02:21] <sriniwas> I have a computer at home with no internet connection and I want to install apps on it.
[02:22] <lordcirth> mattwj2002, the idea with snaps is to be portable across all linux systems that support snaps, unlike deb, rpm, etc
[02:23] <mattwj2002> thanks lordcirth :)
[02:23] <lordcirth> ironically, there are 3 or 4 systems competing to be that portable standard.
[02:32] <nightwalkerkg> Hi, i have win and ubuntu dual boot on my pc. But since i got my new laptop i want to use ubuntu on it and have only windows on my desktop PC. I removed the partitions but i forgot i formated my windows usb. I tried using boot-repair and dd-ing mbr.bin into /dev/sda but i still get grub resuce with the message that my partition is not found. I ran fdisk -l and found that  Boot is on /dev/sda4 wher my 3 partitions used to be. My
[02:32] <nightwalkerkg> But my windows is on /dev/sda2 and /sda1 is for windows filesystem.
[02:33] <nightwalkerkg> How do i fix this ?
[02:33] <zztopless> Do you just need to recreate a windows USB boot stick?
[02:34] <zztopless> if so, use virtualbox or vmware to create the ntfs boot usb needed (use the official MS tool for windows 10, rufus for other versions)
[02:36] <nightwalkerkg> zztopless: anything i can do just to get it to work
[02:37] <nightwalkerkg> I used to have a bootable win installation usb, so i could just get to the command prompt and fix mbr using bootrec.
[02:37] <nightwalkerkg> But i formated that usb drive.
[02:40] <edve> Use an ISO of the windows image on it
[02:43] <red_shift> hey ikonia
[02:43] <red_shift> how come you and Anastasius never played that game of Monopoly as promised?
[02:44] <red_shift> When are you planning on doing that?
[02:44] <red_shift> hmmmm?
[02:50] <zubenelgenubi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYvtwLlsWAg
[02:54] <lukkan99> https://discord.gg/rn2srqJ
[02:58] <zubenelgenubi> i have a question about ubuntu if anyone's around to anser it
[02:58] <zubenelgenubi> anyone?
[02:58] <sriniwas> I'll try.
[02:59] <zubenelgenubi> sriniwas: are you an ubuntu professional support person?
[02:59] <sriniwas> no.
[02:59] <zubenelgenubi> because my question might get a bit complicated
[02:59] <lordcirth> zubenelgenubi, just ask the question
[02:59] <zubenelgenubi> okay, my question is, why do people still use it?
[03:00] <sriniwas> I am on linuxmint now
[03:00] <sriniwas> and also debian
[03:00] <lordcirth> zubenelgenubi, 'it' being Ubuntu?  That is an open-ended question, and not on topic here, either.
[03:01] <zubenelgenubi> lordcirth: Bucking for council status are you?
[03:01] <lordcirth> zubenelgenubi, a troll, are you?
[03:01] <sriniwas> fun, it is
[03:01] <zubenelgenubi> nah, I'm just asking why people still use it.
[03:01] <lordcirth> zubenelgenubi, #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:02] <zubenelgenubi> Yeah, I heard that 9 years ago, too.
[03:02] <lordcirth> zubenelgenubi, this is the Ubuntu support channel, not the chat or debate channel, sorry.
[03:02] <zubenelgenubi> Anyone who's dissatisfied with the level of support here should join ##club-nomicon
[03:03] <zubenelgenubi> That means most of you, I think.
[03:04] <jpd> hello world,  I am rusty on irc usage.  How can connect to another userid?
[03:04] <zubenelgenubi> All hail elky, arbitrator or what is good and bad.
[03:04] <lordcirth> jpd, you mean a private message to someone? '/query username'
[03:06] <jpd> thx
[03:06] <zubenelgenubi> ikonia: You still owe me  a friendly game of Monopoly.
[03:07] <zubenelgenubi> http://i.imgur.com/IBXFX.jpg
[03:18] <lukkan99> https://discord.gg/rn2srqJ
[03:19] <lukkan99> join for a comfy time
[03:21] <rene_> hola
[03:21] <lordcirth> lukkan99, that's not on topic here, I think
[03:25] <rjromero> is Slack really just IRC over some pretty node-webkit?
[03:28] <zztopless> hi, does anyone know the switch to skip all duplicates (ie don't over-ride existing files/folders) when using 7zip from console?  Using the following to extract al 7zip files in a directory: find -type f -name '*.7z' -exec 7z x {} \;
[03:30] <hhee> guys. after 12 lts support time closed - does it repo will be accessible?
[03:31] <cfhowlett> hhee, no, that's what closed mean.  old repos are retired eventually
[03:31] <cfhowlett> hhee, suggestion: upgrade to 14.04 or 16.04
[03:32] <Bashing-om> hhee: Shortly there after, the repo will be turned away to old-releases . The 12.04 repo will no longer exist .
[03:33] <hhee> cfhowlett, Bashing-om got it thx
[03:33] <lordcirth> rjromero, well it also lets you send images and stuff, some apis, etc.
[03:33] <cfhowlett> hhee, happy2help1
[03:33] <lordcirth> rjromero, check out mattermost for a self-hosted Slack
[03:38] <vahe> hi, how fix ? /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lvorbisfile
[03:40] <Bashing-om> vahe: Context ?
[03:41] <vahe> I'm trying to make compile
[03:45] <lordcirth> vahe, install libvorbis-dev, perhaps?
[03:46] <vahe> lordcirth: thanks it helped libvorbis-dev :)
[03:54] <tarvid> "The canary thread is apparently starving" after which compiz commits suicide.
[03:55] <blacknode> hi I'm blacknode
[03:55] <blacknode> from indonesia
[03:55] <blacknode> ubuntu forum?
[03:56] <tarvid> hi blacknode , I'm jim from Virginia USA
[03:56] <blacknode> hi tarvid
[03:56] <blacknode> from USA
[03:56] <blacknode> nice to meet you jim
[03:57] <tarvid> nice to meet you too
[03:57] <tarvid> How is life in Indonesia?
[03:57] <blacknode> is good life in here
[03:58] <blacknode> how about you?
[03:58] <cfhowlett> guys, please chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic.  this is the ubuntu support channel.  thank you.
[03:58] <blacknode> upss... sorry
[03:59] <tarvid> then tell me how to debug rtkit freezes
[03:59] <cfhowlett> !rkhunter | tarvid
[03:59] <cfhowlett> !info rkhunter > tarvid
[04:01] <lukkan99> GARFIELD KART!!!!!
[04:01] <EMPHASIS> Is there an Intel assembler instruction to lock a program so it can't be time-sliced out?  I wanto protect "get a shared var", "add 1", "replace var", in hypercritical code that I don't want to use semaphores for.
[04:02] <moneybags_> could someone please assist me with getting linux to recognize my sd card reader  (linux newbie here :))
[04:03] <blacknode> hi money bags, I have same problem with you
[04:03] <blacknode> any assist us
[04:03] <stimp> GARFIELD ???
[04:03] <stimp> Is garfield ,, get stronger?
[04:03] <moneybags_> good to know im in good company :)
[04:03] <cfhowlett> !OT | stimp,
[04:03] <stimp> Please tofree download , GARFIELD KART Free the free (FREE) Obundudu OS
[04:04] <EMPHASIS> moneybags_ : happened to me, then found other devices couldn't read it either (two other cameras). :(
[04:05] <moneybags_> no its not the card itself, ive verified that much already
[04:05] <moneybags_> needing to look at my trail cam pics for hunting tomorrow :)
[04:07] <tarvid> is pulse evil? My machine used to stutter and one of the suggestions was to kill pulse
[04:07] <EMPHASIS> moneybags_ : Do other SD cards work in PC?
[04:08] <lordcirth> EMPHASIS, you might want a programming channel for that
[04:08] <EMPHASIS> lordcirth : I found #intel - would that be OK?
[04:09] <Amr787> Hi
[04:09] <cfhowlett> tarvid, evil? no.
[04:09] <lordcirth> EMPHASIS, maybe.  also:
[04:09] <lordcirth> !alis | EMPHASIS
[04:09] <stimp> OOBOONTOO
[04:09] <cfhowlett> stimp, stop it
[04:09] <cfhowlett> !guidelines
[04:10] <Amr787> Can usual ubuntu softwares be installed on ubuntu phone?
[04:10] <lukkan99> HONK HONK
[04:10] <stimp> isda,s obundudu OS compatible,, ? with (bean) computer device ? please to answrr , son in ARABIA is want know
[04:10] <lukkan99> did someone say bean
[04:10] <lukkan99> dont let me bean you
[04:10] <lukkan99> and make beaned
[04:10] <stimp> It is makes stupid
[04:11] <stimp> D e b i a n     m a s t e r    r a c e
[04:11] <lukkan99> ^^
[04:11] <lukkan99> velcom do vindolu techical support
[04:11] <Amr787> Why unity 8 is so different?...will snap  come to phone?
[04:11] <stimp> Is this where i get help compiling my gentoo kernel
[04:12] <Amr787> Stimp lol
[04:12] <moneybags_> no other cards work emphasis
[04:12] <ObrienDave> no feeding the troll
[04:12] <stimp> i-i just need help compiling my gentoo kernel ;__;
[04:15] <lukkan99> is hare i get debian=
[04:15] <lukkan99> ?*
[04:15] <stimp> i want to download "GENTOO" os ,,,,,,,,,, please to tell location of file
[04:15] <lukkan99> i linus noob
[04:16] <moneybags_> lukkan99 no
[04:16] <moneybags_> try #debian
[04:16] <stimp> this is #debian
[04:16] <lordcirth> Don't feed the trolls
[04:16] <moneybags_> oops sorry
[04:16] <lukkan99> but this debain
[04:16] <lukkan99> linux told me
[04:16] <stimp> this is not "linux"
[04:16] <moneybags_> lord can you help me get my sd card reader recognized ?
[04:16] <stimp> you are say name wrong
[04:17] <stimp> it is called THE GNU OPERATING SYSTEM..,,
[04:17] <stimp> and it is right sanswer
[04:17] <lukkan99> oh
[04:17] <lukkan99> whare do i get linux?
[04:17] <stimp> the gnu opersating system
[04:17] <lukkan99> is it linus?
[04:17] <stimp> i compiled gnu kernel "kernel"
[04:18] <stimp> i am of linus
[04:19] <lukkan99> how do i compile my hard drive?
[04:19] <stimp> first if you are windows xp user
[04:19] <stimp> i am send you compile too "GCC" from "STALL MAN'
[04:20] <stimp> it is run gentoo kernel, and you are compile the hard drive from foot gunk
[04:20] <stimp> (WINXP USER ONLY)
[04:20] <lukkan99> http://store.steampowered.com/app/362930/?l=swedish
[04:20] <lukkan99> the true linux
[04:21] <stimp> the real of gnu kernel, it is gentoo, compile from a "GCC" of stsall, man,
[04:21] <lordcirth> modcall ?
[04:21] <krytarik> lordcirth: Yes.
[04:21] <stimp> you of not learn te "GENTO," os , itis mod is dame
[04:22] <stimp> why you discuss "OBUNDUDU" poperating system  , this is DEBIAN channel.....
[04:22] <stimp> heavily unix
[04:22] <kk4ewt> stimp lol
[04:22] <krytarik> !ops
[04:23] <lukkan99> chenny lol
[04:23] <stimp> visual studio lol
[04:23] <stimp> works UBUNTU os...
[04:24] <elky> lukkan99: what exactly do you think you're doing?
[04:24] <lukkan99> awoo
[04:25] <lukkan99> why lol
[04:25] <lukkan99> i talking in hare lol
[04:25] <lukkan99> lol
[04:25] <stimp> please, is download and help me to compile it,,,,,,,, ENTOO KENEEL
[04:25] <stimp> i am know, this is DEBIAN chanlelel, but it is need help to kernel compile in GENTOO lol
[04:26] <elky> stimp: this is the ubuntu channel. it is not the debian channel. it is not the gentoo channel
[04:26] <stimp> no, you are of making mistake
[04:26] <lukkan99> it is linux told me
[04:26] <elky> if you want offtopic talk choose one of those distro names and add -offtopic, eg #ubuntu-offtopic.
[04:26] <lukkan99> linux never lies
[04:26] <lukkan99> lol
[04:26] <stimp> it is GENTOO linus DEBIAN HELP DESK
[04:26] <stimp> llol
[04:26] <stimp> this isNOT obundudu os channel
[04:26] <elky> lukkan99: likewise, but please no nsfw minecraft screenshots this time.
[04:26] <lukkan99> elky lol
[04:27] <stimp> elky lol
[04:27] <lukkan99> are you form disscord
[04:27] <stimp> welomc to botnet ,,
[04:27] <elky> no and you're not to spam that anymore either
[04:27] <stimp> i love elky
[04:27] <elky> stimp: who is the botnet?
[04:28] <stimp> you please , to the botnet
[04:28] <stimp> it is known of a fact, a n envelope
[04:28] <cfhowlett> tyvm elky
[04:29] <elky> stimp: please take a look at the topic and read the rules before you do anything else.
[04:29] <moneybags_> can anyone assist me with getting ubuntu to recognize my card reader?
[04:29] <elky> lukkan99: please also read the topic and the riles before anything else.
[04:30] <elky> rule*
[04:30] <lukkan99> elky how did you know abute me spaming that pic before
[04:30] <lukkan99> are you a discord user?
[04:30] <moneybags_> lukkan pls go away
[04:30] <elky> lukkan99: because you were being such a problem i looked what else you did in my logs
[04:30] <moneybags_> people actually need help
[04:31] <cfhowlett> lukkan99, this channel is logged and publicly viewable.  behave acordingly
[04:31] <lukkan99> lol
[04:32] <elky> read the rules.
[04:32] <stimp> let's just do little comfy things, no need to be mad! :3
[04:38] <moneybags_> can anyone assist me with getting ubuntu to recognize my card reader?
[04:38] <ObrienDave> USB or internal?
[04:39] <moneybags_> usb
[04:39] <moneybags_> well its internaL
[04:39] <moneybags_> but a google search said it might be a USB on the motherboard ?
[04:39] <ObrienDave> try moving the cable to a different port
[04:39] <moneybags_> hp pavillion p6000
[04:40] <kk4ewt> moneybags_,  paste the output of lsusb and lspci
[04:41] <kk4ewt> (using a pastebin not in the channel)
[04:41] <moneybags_> us 002 Device 003: ID 05dc:a81d Lexar Media, Inc.  Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005 Device 002: ID 04f2:0841 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd HP Multimedia Keyboard Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046d:c05a Logitech, I
[04:41] <moneybags_> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] RS780/RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (int gfx) 00:0a.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] RS780/RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 5) 00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] 00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [
[04:42] <kk4ewt> (using a pastebin not in the channel)
[04:42] <ObrienDave> *sigh*
[04:42] <moneybags_> ok sorry
[04:43] <moneybags_> http://pastebin.com/NGdSixEm
[05:02] <xxxx_> the easy way to explain this without "ask-answers": i born yesterday nude in a jungle with 100kb p/second wifi, i don't know anything, i have a 64-bit Acer-laptop with 2RAM and hardware mega-shitty-2000 (no more specs than that), a 16g $10 USB with Fedora(new) and for some bizzare and magical reason 1 HOLE WEEK! of LINUX (ubuntu 16.04LTS and right now-16.1) experience. NEED TO FORMAT HARD DISK TO 0 WITH THE RIGHT CONFIGURATION, NO NEED TO SAVE ANYTHING AND
[05:02] <xxxx_> INSTALL FEDORA, IN A 50/100 PARTITION OF MY HARDDRIVE WITHOUT PROBLEMS LIKE FEDORA CANNOT FIND THE .ISO AND USE A BASIC STABLE LINUX TO GAIN EXPERIENCE BEFORE A NEW COMPUTER, MONEY AND UBUNTU.. and kill the demon to hack the infernal gods. ???
[05:02] <zztopless> hi, does anyone know the switch to skip all duplicates (ie don't over-ride existing files/folders) when using 7zip from console?  Using the following to extract al 7zip files in a directory: find -type f -name '*.7z' -exec 7z x {} \;
[05:03] <lordcirth> xxxx_, please do not 'shout' in all caps
[05:04] <glitchd> so i have a setup like this desktop->2gb ram->400gb_hd->sda1_4gb-swap->sda2 217gb_void_linux->sda3_145gb_ubuntu-16.04.1. My question is, can both installs use the same swap partition since they wont be running at the same time?
[05:04] <lordcirth> glitchd, yes
[05:04] <xxxx_> understandable resons (make my point simply-clear and not to more text than needed)
[05:04] <lordcirth> glitchd, no state is preserved between reboots, *unless* you hibernate to disk
[05:04] <glitchd> lordcirth, geeze that was a quick answer lol
[05:04] <lordcirth> glitchd, so as long as you don't hibernate, it will be fine
[05:05] <glitchd> lordcirth, thats what i thought, but i wanted to make sure
[05:05] <freecoder> hi. i am trying to run Intel VTune Amplifier on my Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit system. I get the following error when I try to open a project in vtune - https://bpaste.net/show/b09b1e878764
[05:05] <glitchd> lordcirth, awesome, thanks for the super quick answer. much appreciated.
[05:05] <lordcirth> glitchd, np
[05:06] <glitchd> im just gonna hangout in here nd try to learn=)
[05:06] <lordcirth> xxxx_, to clarify, you have a USB with Fedora on it, and a hard drive with Ubuntu on it, and you want to install Fedora?
[05:06] <freecoder> i installed libstdc++6 package using apt but the issue still persists
[05:09] <Bashing-om> !info libproxy1v5
[05:10] <xxxx_> oh, one more thing... ubuntu on hard drive (i'm right now in it), fedora .iso on USB and ubuntu have almost all space.. need to delete-it, install fedora inside 50/100 partition of disk..
[05:10] <Bashing-om> freecoder: This : http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libproxy.so.1&mode=filename&suite=yakkety&arch=any ?
[05:10] <cfhowlett> xxxx_, for assistance installing fedora, ask #fedora?
[05:11] <freecoder> Bashing-om, it is already installed - "libproxy1v5 is already the newest version (0.4.11-5ubuntu1)."
[05:11] <xxxx_> the problem is not that, cannot format my hard-drive - no matter if i install ubuntu again for example
[05:12] <cfhowlett> xxxx_, linux USB.  boot gparted.  format hdd.  done.
[05:12] <lordcirth> xxxx_, or any of the installers, Ubuntu or Fedora, will let you delete partitions
[05:13] <xxxx_> i have the probmen with ubuntu that cannot reboot, or turn off and i read that the problem is the partition itself, but if i have ubuntu in the hole disk, how can i re-parted?
[05:14] <lordcirth> xxxx_, you can't reboot ?  What happens when you try?
[05:14] <cfhowlett> xxxx_, make an ubuntu/fedora USB.  of COURSE you cannot delete the partition while booted from ubuntu - the system is live!  and it's protecting itself from - well - you.  boot from USB
[05:14] <xxxx_> i'll try that cfhowlett
[05:15] <xxxx_> ubuntu logo, freezes... forever
[05:16] <cfhowlett> xxxx_,  you mean in the 45 seconds since your last message? that ain't forever
[05:16] <glitchd> ..lol
[05:17] <xxxx_> when turn off, go to the ubuntu logo and freezes until i turn off from the power button
[05:17] <Bashing-om> freecoder: Beats me at this time .. gcc version mismatch ?.. but I do not know .
[05:17] <glitchd> xxxx_, are you still on the usb?
[05:17] <xxxx_> i'm in the hard drive :S
[05:18] <glitchd> xxxx_, i think some process is still running then
[05:18] <xxxx_> the usb are in other place, a meter from me
[05:18] <glitchd> xxxx_, how long did u wait for it to shutdown before force killing it?
[05:19] <xxxx_> click-shut down, shut down again... seconds, ubuntu logo - freezes (maybe 10s)
[05:20] <xxxx_> the all process
[05:20] <glitchd> xxxx_, are you expecting it to be instant when you click shutdown?
[05:21] <lordcirth> xxxx_, if you hit Escape, you may be able to see some output about anything that might be slowing it down.
[05:21] <xxxx_> nope, i let some times like hour or the time i go to the store
[05:21] <wax> Hey folks! I'm having trouble getting Ubuntu to connect to a Windows file share I have open. I tried using "Connect to Server" and it gives me a different errors depending on if I use IP or the computer's name. I tried using a guide that adds the share to the fstab file and it didn't work for me, either.
[05:21] <glitchd> wax, install samba
[05:21] <cfhowlett> xxxx_, sudo shutdown -r         will return useful info
[05:21] <xxxx_> wait, i have the link for make me explain better...
[05:21] <xxxx_> done!, nothing.
[05:22] <freecoder> Bashing-om, ok so I followed instructions at https://forums.xilinx.com/t5/Embedded-Development-Tools/GLIBCXX-3-4-20-not-found/m-p/673213#M38675 where a similar issue is encountered - basically make the libstdc++.so.6 in the vtune installation to point to the one in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[05:22] <wax> I installed smbclient as part of the guide, is that samba?
[05:22] <freecoder> the issue seems to have been resolved :)
[05:22] <glitchd> xxxx_, are you trying to shutdown the computer youre using to chat on?
[05:22] <xxxx_> nope, and i installed ubuntu this week like 7 times
[05:23] <glitchd> xxxx_, its another computer then?
[05:23] <glitchd> xxxx_, is it a different computer?
[05:24] <xxxx_> just one computer with ubuntu
[05:24] <Bashing-om> freecoder: When you are good, you are good .. pleased ya gave the solution .
[05:24] <glitchd> xxxx_, so then back to my other question, are you typing in these shutdown commands on the computer youre using to talk to us on?
[05:25] <xxxx_> no, hours ago
[05:25] <cfhowlett> ???
[05:25] <wax> Okay, I just installed samba and am still having the same problems.
[05:25] <wax> When I use the computer's name, it says it can't find a path. When I use the computer's IP, it asks me to login and then just hangs.
[05:26] <glitchd> wax, i believe you have to configure samba, but i may be wrong
[05:26] <wax> Oh?
[05:26] <glitchd> wax, im not sure..
[05:26] <lordcirth> Samba server needs configuration.  Client should just work
[05:26] <wax> It looks like configuring it is for setting up the samba share on the Ubuntu system.
[05:27] <glitchd> wax, i dont use samba per say, my machine just access the windows partitions normally
[05:27] <wax> But the client's not just working. T.T
[05:27] <glitchd> wax, do you have windows 10?
[05:27] <lordcirth> wax, yes.  Did you install the 'smbclient' package?
[05:27] <wax> Yeah. And I have smbclient installed, yeah.
[05:27] <wax> Windows 10.
[05:28] <lordcirth> wax, try using smb-client from the command line, perhaps you will get more useful errors
[05:28] <wax> Okay, let me see if I can figure that out.
[05:28] <glitchd> well if your machine is using secure boot, then when exiting windows you must choose restart and not shutdown.
[05:28] <glitchd> otherwise you will not be able to access the windows partitions from ubuntu
[05:28] <glitchd> unless you disable secureboot
[05:29] <glitchd> windows is weird, in windows 10 when you shutdown, it trys to load a bit of info into memory to make the os boot up faster, to get around this you must choose reboot.
[05:30] <lordcirth> glitchd, he's trying to connect to a separate windows machine, I think, not local partitions
[05:30] <lordcirth> Why would he need samba for that?
[05:30] <glitchd> ohhh...
[05:30] <glitchd> i thought it was the same pc
[05:30] <glitchd> my bad..
[05:31] <lordcirth> no, samba is for network shares, SMB protocol
[05:31] <glitchd> my bad my bad my bad
[05:31] <lordcirth> it's ok
[05:31] <xxxx_> got it! " PowerPC
[05:31] <xxxx_>     Choosing an Entire Disk install on PowerPC will result in an un-bootable system. The work around is to manually partition your hard disk and create a 1GB ext2 /boot partition. One also needs to move /etc/yaboot.conf to /boot/etc/yaboot.conf and symlink it back. (1606089) """ is in here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes and that's why i'm thinking reboot problem are because i use all disk space to it
[05:32] <wax> Ok, we got some pretty interesting errors with just smbclient -L [ip]
[05:32] <lordcirth> xxxx_, you are running a ppc machine?  I don't think you mentioned that
[05:32] <wax> Connection to [ip] failed (Error NT_STATUS_RESOURCE_NAME_NOT_FOUND) and NetBIOS over TCP disabled -- no workgroup available.
[05:33] <lordcirth> see, that's googleable now :)
[05:33] <ObrienDave> google knows all ;P
[05:34] <glitchd> lol
[05:34] <xxxx_> like i'm said, the story i tell in the firs place are not too far to rality -- no idea the ppc? i't some like PC?
[05:34] <xxxx_> from* reality
[05:34] <lordcirth> xxxx_, powerPC is a CPU architecture used mostly by older 32bit Macs.  Modern PCs are x86.
[05:35] <lordcirth> powerPC may need some special setup to make it work
[05:36] <xxxx_> this computer used to have win7, 64 bit - but the 2ram just make me use a 32 ubuntu to avoid crashes
[05:37] <ObrienDave> only thing Ubuntu available for PPC is server and Mate
[05:37] <zafar> hello? is there anybody in there?
[05:37] <lordcirth> xxxx_, well then it's not powerPC, Windows7 doesn't run on PPC
[05:37] <lordcirth> zafar, many of us
[05:38] <zafar> just nod if you can hear me
[05:38]  * lordcirth nods
[05:39] <xxxx_> oh, then im lost ... every time i reboot" ubuntu something are changed and not ina funtcionaly way
[05:39]  * ObrienDave waves a BIG stick ;P
[05:40] <rebo> hi all
[05:40] <Yasir> Hello!! can you hear me?
[05:40] <rebo> I added a new hard disk, and used "Disks" app to format it as ext4
[05:40] <rebo> This went ok, and I started using it
[05:40] <rebo> now I wanted to add a new partition using gparted
[05:40] <zafar> yasir, yes we do.
[05:40] <rebo> but when I load /dev/sdb in gparted, there doesn't appear to be a partition table
[05:40] <rebo> the file system seems to span the entire disk
[05:40] <xxxx_> but yes, make 50/100 partitions on my disk i think will get me closer to the sove
[05:40] <xxxx_> solve*
[05:40] <rebo> how can I create a pratition table in order to resizes partitions without erasing the whole disk?
[05:41] <xxxx_> gparted ... rebo
[05:41] <lordcirth> rebo, you formatted the raw disk as ext4?
[05:41] <xxxx_> i think
[05:41] <rebo> lordcirth: I think so
[05:41] <lordcirth> That's a bit of puzzle
[05:42] <rebo> the ext4 file systems seems to cover the whole disk
[05:42] <rebo> no partition table
[05:42] <rebo> I didnt think this was even possible
[05:42] <lordcirth> rebo, well, you shouldn't have done that :P  I'm not aware of an easy way to move that without deleting it
[05:42] <lordcirth> rebo, do you have backups?
[05:43] <rebo> the data is perfectly accessible right now
[05:43] <lordcirth> In theory you could shrink it, move it over, then make a partition and move it back, but that's going to take forever, and 1 mistake will nuke it all
[05:43] <rebo> I tried to shrink it in gparted, but the new free space is simply lost
[05:44] <rebo> I had to "check" partition, which simply goes back to how it was
[05:44] <ra21vi> ubuntu stability and hardware support is less predictable on stability than android... New ubuntu installation on dell 7559, sometimes things works, sometimes it doesnt and after restart some again works.
[05:45] <rebo> lordcirth: so you suggest I use another disk to copy data over, recreate the existing disk with proper paritions, and move data back
[05:46] <rebo> is there a way to do it inplace?
[05:46] <lordcirth> rebo, if you have such a disk, that is by far the easiest way
[05:46] <lordcirth> rebo, in theory it is possible in-place, but it will be slow and risky
[05:46] <rebo> hmm i see. I dont understand why the "Disks" app did that in the first place !
[05:47] <lordcirth> rebo, because you told it to, presumably.
[05:47] <lordcirth> Always double-check partitioning
[05:47] <rebo> yes i did. it should have at least warn that there wont be a partition table!
[05:47] <glitchd> sonypoiny
[05:47] <ObrienDave> what size is the drive?
[05:48] <glitchd> lol
[05:48] <rebo> no that big, 256gb
[05:48] <rebo> not*
[05:48] <glitchd> tapped the touch pad with my palm and exited the window i was talking in
[05:48] <lordcirth> rebo, it probably should have, being a supposedly user-friendly GUI tool.  Still, always double-check.
[05:48] <ObrienDave> it should still have a partition table
[05:49] <rebo> ObrienDave: that's the think, it doesnt have one
[05:49] <ra21vi> if I use Ubuntu for servers, without sound and gfx... it works nicely, no much problem, and much preferred. The desktop variant, never worked. Everytime I install it, I have to start searching on SO,Google,BugTracker to solve it. And still not all features can be used. Example Graphics, I pay for best graphics card, but due to available driver, has to be used underperforming. Wireless flickers, update kernel, load/unload kern modules, do this and that
[05:49] <ra21vi> config change, add more software.. and still works unsatisfactorily.
[05:49] <rebo> fdisk -l also says so
[05:49] <lordcirth> rebo, just to double-check, if you do 'ls /dev/sdb*' or whatever the drive is, is there sdb1 ?
[05:49] <piyush> i have installed opera browser on elementary os, i want to hide this boring title bar o the top(window  bar), but right click is not working onthat, on other distros right click works to hide the bar, any other way to hide it in this distro?
[05:49] <rebo> no just /dev/sdb no numbers
[05:50] <rebo> the whole disk is formatted as ext4 file system apparently
[05:50] <ObrienDave> that makes no sense
[05:50] <rebo> I didnt even think this is possible
[05:50] <rebo> I nkow
[05:51] <rebo> I can access the data just fine
[05:52] <glitchd> so i just installed an old 3.5 floppy drive into a desktop to use while modding original xboxs, but it doesnt seem to want to work in ubuntu. i get this message "Error mounting system-managed device /dev/fd0: Command-line `mount "/media/floppy0"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device"
[05:52] <glitchd> is the device bad, or is it just not configured correctly?
[05:52] <Ben64> glitchd: the disk isn't mounting
[05:52] <codfection> [serious question] is linux as secure as macOS ? (your opinions please)
[05:52] <Ben64> codfection: not the place for that discussion
[05:53] <glitchd> Ben64, i realize that,but im trying to figure out if its a problem with the disk drive itself or something else perhaps in ubuntu thats not configured correctly
[05:54] <Ben64> glitchd: probably the disk...
[05:54] <glitchd> the disk, not the drive..?
[05:54] <Ben64> yeah that's usually the problem when a disk doesn't mount
[05:55] <glitchd> Ben64, ok ill attempt to use another disk then, hope youre right
[05:57] <glitchd> Ben64, hmm well either this box of floppies is no good or the drive itself is no good
[05:57] <Ben64> or you're trying to mount it incorrectly
[05:57] <Ben64> would help if you explained what you were trying to do
[05:58] <glitchd> Ben64, im just clicking the floppy drive in the thunar side pane
[05:59] <glitchd> Ben64, just trying to get this floppy to read disks so i can use it work on original xboxs
[05:59] <glitchd> *floppy drive
[05:59] <Ben64> is there data on the disks
[05:59] <glitchd> the drive may be no good tho, i pulled it from an old desktop i had
[05:59] <glitchd> no data on disks, they are fresh from the box
[05:59] <apinsv> How can i configure an Hp Deskjet 2515 printer for scanning over network with Ubuntu 16.04
[05:59] <Ben64> so of course they won't mount
[06:00] <ObrienDave> spend 10 bucks, get a USB floppy drive
[06:00] <Ben64> you need to format them first
[06:00] <glitchd> Ben64, lol i have no idea how to format then in here either
[06:00] <glitchd> beat me to it..
[06:01] <ObrienDave> most floppys are formated for windows out of the box. FAT12 iirc
[06:01] <lordcirth> fat32
[06:02] <Ben64> fat32 didn't exist back then
[06:02] <lordcirth> oh floppys, nvrm
[06:02] <lordcirth> sorry it's 1:00 am here, bye lol
[06:02] <apinsv> please help me ***
[06:02] <ObrienDave> 1.44MB floppy is FAT12 the 2.88MB were FAT16
[06:04] <glitchd> Ben64, on the back of the disk it says ibm formatted, if that means anything..
[06:04] <emanuela> ciao!
[06:04] <ObrienDave> glitchd, that would be FAT12
[06:05] <glitchd> ObrienDave, alrighty then
[06:05] <Ben64> i wouldn't trust it to stay formatted for 20 years, but you could probably check
[06:06] <glitchd> idk should i try formatting them in a windows virtual machine instead of in ubuntu?
[06:06] <glitchd> xubuntu to be more exact
[06:06] <Ben64> no
[06:06] <ObrienDave> glitchd, have you tried to install dosfstools?
[06:06] <glitchd> ObrienDave, no i have no, but i will now
[06:07] <glitchd> ObrienDave, already the newest version
[06:07] <rebo> question, how do I move the swap partition from primary disk to secondary disk?
[06:08] <rebo> do I just recreate a new one and delete the old
[06:08] <glitchd> rebo, i believe just create a new swap on the second disk then deactivate the old and activate the new
[06:08] <rebo> what are the commands to activate/deactivate?
[06:08] <glitchd> rebo, sudo swapoff -a then sudo swapon /dev/sda?
[06:09] <Bashing-om> rebo: and update the /etc/fstab file to point to the new swap partition .
[06:09] <glitchd> rebo, *sudo swapoff -a then sudo swapon /dev/sd?
[06:09] <rebo> thanks I'll give it a try
[06:09] <glitchd> rebo, replace the ? with the number of the partition that lsblk lists
[06:10] <rebo> k
[06:10] <glitchd> rebo, ie-sda1, sda2, etc..
[06:10] <ObrienDave> glitchd, spend 10 bucks, get a USB floppy drive
[06:12] <glitchd> ObrienDave, usb floopy drives wont work for what im doing with them
[06:13] <ObrienDave> Xbox used floppies?
[06:15] <glitchd> ObrienDave, lol no, but when creating new hard drive for the original xbox, i have to use a linux distro called xboxHDM, and the way it works is, the hard drive is locked with a password called the eeprom, i have to put the eeprom on the floppy so it can be accessed with xboxhdm to lock the hard drive to the console
[06:15] <glitchd> ObrienDave, man if i could of just gotten a usb floppy drive it would have made this whole process so much flippin easier
[06:16] <glitchd> ObrienDave, i spent the last month or so looking for parts and pieces to construct this pc, finally have it running, just to find out i can use the floppy drive
[06:16] <ObrienDave> eeprom = Electrically Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory ;P
[06:18] <glitchd> ObrienDave, lol thx
[06:18] <ObrienDave> it contains the encryption code to lock the drive
[06:18] <glitchd> ObrienDave, look up creating a new hdd for the original xbox and youll see what im talking about
[06:19] <glitchd> ObrienDave, look on youtube
[06:19] <glitchd> ObrienDave, crap tons of vids on there about it
[06:19] <glitchd> cfhowlett, welcome back=)
[06:20] <cfhowlett> glitchd, greetings!
[06:20] <glitchd> cfhowlett, salutations!
[06:20] <zztopless> Does anyone know the switch to skip all duplicates (ie don't over-ride existing files/folders) when using 7zip from console?  Using the following to extract al 7zip files in a directory: find -type f -name '*.7z' -exec 7z x {} \;
[06:21] <ObrienDave> glitchd, anyway, I understand what you're trying to do, but I know nothing about that level of Xbox. GL
[06:22] <glitchd> ObrienDave, right on, thx=)
[06:22] <cfhowlett> I know there's a linux/xbox forum and probably there is a channel as wel
[06:22] <glitchd> cfhowlett, i think ive been there, but its been a while, care to share a link?
[06:22] <cfhowlett> looking ...
[06:23] <glitchd> thx
[06:24] <cfhowlett> glitchd, so many possibilities!  search xbox + linux for a healthy sample
[06:26] <glitchd> cfhowlett, search where?
[06:26] <ObrienDave> google is your friend LOL
[06:26] <cfhowlett> well I was *trying* not say "google it!"  I like this early 2000s retro atmosphere
[06:32] <glitchd> kostkon, whose unfamiliar with google?
[06:32] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, thought you were still in China. It's been a while ;P
[06:33] <JohnMcClain> How's the Ubuntu scene there?
[06:33] <kostkon> glitchd: well someone in here, I won't say who  :P
[06:34] <glitchd> kostkon, lol you came in on the tail end of a convo buddy
[06:34] <glitchd> kostkon, meaning you dont know what youre taking about=)
[06:35] <kostkon> glitchd: seems like it
[06:36] <kostkon> glitchd: oh, well... nvm, let's say I agree with you
[06:36] <glitchd> kostkon, to bring you up to speed, im attempting to get a floppy drive to work in a desktop machine i built which has the sole purpose of assisting me in modding original xboxs
[06:37] <ObrienDave> is the floppy properly connected to the motherboard?
[06:37] <glitchd> kostkon, i need the floppy drive to save the hard drive password on because thats the only interface the distro will use for the password
[06:37] <glitchd> ObrienDave, as far as i can tell
[06:38] <glitchd> ObrienDave, ive got the ribbon cable connected to the only port that it will fit in. and ive got power to it. it lights up when i attempt to reach the disk, but then never goes off and i eventually get an error
[06:39] <ObrienDave> sounds like a bad drive
[06:39] <Ben64> sudo file -s /dev/fd0
[06:39] <glitchd> and it is possible to not use the floppy and just create cds that have the distro and the password all in one, but i was trying to go a different way with it
[06:40] <glitchd> Ben64, $ sudo file -s/devfd0
[06:40] <glitchd> file: invalid option -- '/'
[06:40] <glitchd> Usage: file [-bcEhikLlNnprsvzZ0] [--apple] [--extension] [--mime-encoding] [--mime-type]
[06:40] <glitchd>             [-e testname] [-F separator] [-f namefile] [-m magicfiles] file ...
[06:40] <glitchd>        file -C [-m magicfiles]
[06:40] <glitchd>        file [--help]
[06:40] <Ben64> welp
[06:41] <ObrienDave> glitchd, wrong command      sudo file -s /dev/fd0
[06:42] <glitchd> ObrienDave, i saw the error before you corrected it, but was silenced because i pasted those few lines a minute ago so i couldnt respond
[06:42] <ObrienDave> no biggie, MUCH safer to copy and paste to the terminal ;P
[06:42] <glitchd> ObrienDave, the corrected command gives the same error without the invalid part
[06:42] <glitchd> ObrienDave, yes, and yes.
[06:42] <Ben64> put it in a pastebin
[06:42] <ObrienDave> that too LOL
[06:43] <glitchd> Ben64, yea thats what i was planning to do
[06:45] <glitchd> ObrienDave, i noticed i still had the command wrong, fixed and it gave me this "sudo file -s /dev/fd0 /dev/fd0: writable, no read permission"
[06:45] <glitchd> ObrienDave, i forgot a space in it
[06:46] <ObrienDave> that explains both
[06:47] <ObrienDave> i wouldn't know how to change the permissions on a floppy
[06:48] <Ben64> sounds like there isn't a disk in
[06:48] <ObrienDave> is there jumpers on the back of the drive?
[06:50] <glitchd> ObrienDave, not that i know of, of course i cannot see the entire back of the drive since its in the case already
[06:50] <newbie_> hello everyone
[06:50] <newbie_> I am new to ubuntu
[06:50] <newbie_> just now I tried following this tutorial: http://askubuntu.com/questions/430434/replace-openjdk-with-oracle-jdk-on-ubuntu
[06:51] <newbie_> for replacing my opend jdk to that or oracle jdk
[06:51] <newbie_> everything went well excep the part where I tried this command on the terminal java -version
[06:51] <newbie_> and it returned me this message back: bash: /usr/bin/java: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error
[06:51] <newbie_> please help
[06:52] <Ben64> newbie_: you're on your own if you decide to install things from outside the ubuntu repositories
[06:53] <ObrienDave> in otherwords, until you know, keep it official ;P
[06:57] <EriC^^> newbie_: exec format error means 32bit vs 64bit
[06:57] <EriC^^> newbie_: get the file that's same as your arch, (type arch in the terminal to find out)
[07:17] <rebo> what would one normally use as mount options in /etc/fstab for a secondary drive?
[07:17] <maddawg2> depends what kind of drive really rebo
[07:17] <maddawg2> is it a nfs or something
[07:17] <rebo> ext4
[07:17] <rebo> I want it to behave like the primary one, just a second one
[07:18] <rebo> for extra space
[07:18] <rebo> right now, I have "auto,user" is that correct?
[07:20] <rebo> but I'm getting some issues with file permissions..
[07:20] <maddawg2> that doesnt sound right
[07:20] <maddawg2> what is on the drive
[07:20] <rebo> just normal data
[07:20] <maddawg2> so it has data on it already?
[07:20] <rebo> think of it as a second /home
[07:20] <rebo> yes
[07:20] <maddawg2> a secnd home?
[07:20] <maddawg2> you only get one home
[07:20] <rebo> only in concept :)
[07:21] <maddawg2> you're just using it as additional storage
[07:21] <rebo> yes
[07:21] <maddawg2> that's not a home directory lol
[07:21] <maddawg2> but whatever
[07:21] <maddawg2> so do you have the drive mounted currently?
[07:21] <rebo> yes
[07:22] <rebo> UUID=... /media/data ext4 auto,user 0 0
[07:22] <rebo> the UUID is the one for /dev/sdb1
[07:22] <maddawg2> umm why auto,user?
[07:22] <maddawg2> it should be ext4 defaults 0 0 at end
[07:23] <rebo> yes I have 0 0 at the end
[07:23] <maddawg2> no
[07:23] <maddawg2> you dont have defaults
[07:23] <rebo> ?
[07:23] <maddawg2> auto,user i have no clue why you are using that for a sata drive
[07:23] <maddawg2> i assume thats what it is
[07:23] <rebo> ah "defaults" ok
[07:23] <maddawg2> or usb
[07:24] <maddawg2> either way it's not a NAS
[07:24] <maddawg2> second you need to make sure you have ownership and permissions on hte mount point
[07:24] <ducasse> rebo: if you just want it to automount on boot, you can use 'defaults'
[07:24] <rebo> I created the mount point using "sudo mkdir"
[07:24] <maddawg2> sudo chown user -R /media/<mountpoint>
[07:25] <maddawg2> sudo chown <user> -R <path/to/mount>
[07:25] <maddawg2> rather
[07:25] <rebo> ok according to man page "defaults = default options: rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, nouser, and async."
[07:25] <maddawg2> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1551705
[07:25] <maddawg2> see there
[07:26] <rebo> thanks
[07:26] <maddawg2> is it a USB or SATA drive
[07:26] <maddawg2> or nas
[07:26] <rebo> SATA
[07:26] <maddawg2> or nfs
[07:26] <maddawg2> ok then you dont need most of that
[07:26] <rebo> with dos MBR
[07:26] <maddawg2> just defaults
[07:26] <maddawg2> that doesnt mean much
[07:26] <maddawg2> how large is the drive?
[07:26] <maddawg2> (personally i use GPT for everything)
[07:27] <rebo> I meant formatted as dos partition table, with 2 partitions: ext4 as primary and swap on extended
[07:27] <ducasse> rebo: then you should also add an entry for the swap.
[07:27] <rebo> I already did
[07:28] <rebo> its working fine
[07:28] <rebo> i'll use "defaults" then as suggested
[07:29] <maddawg2> i know what you meant
[07:29] <maddawg2> gpt is another partition table
[07:29] <kingplusplus> please how do i point ubuntu to a domain name?
[07:29] <maddawg2> supports larger drives
[07:29] <maddawg2> kingplusplus, what do you mean "point to a domain name"
[07:30] <rebo> maddawg2: right. I think for my needs MBR is just fine
[07:30] <maddawg2> you want a domain name to point to the server
[07:30] <maddawg2> rebo well how large is the drive?
[07:30] <rebo> 256gb
[07:30] <maddawg2> yea then you're fine
[07:30] <maddawg2> that's tiny
[07:30] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: i have a registered domain and would host a site but i need to configure something in ubuntu no?
[07:31] <maddawg2> depends what is responding
[07:31] <maddawg2> apache?
[07:31] <maddawg2> mail
[07:31] <maddawg2> it all depends
[07:31] <ducasse> kingplusplus: you need to configure the dns server that serves that domain
[07:31] <maddawg2> yes
[07:31] <maddawg2> and point it to your IP
[07:31] <maddawg2> then you need to configure your router to forward correct services
[07:31] <maddawg2> that's really about it
[07:32] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: i have setup A records at the domain part
[07:32] <maddawg2> ok then that's it
[07:32] <maddawg2> at least as far as ubuntu is concerned
[07:32] <maddawg2> but it all depends what you'll be hosting too
[07:32] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: don’t i need to setup host name
[07:33] <maddawg2> you just did
[07:33] <maddawg2> and i assume your computer alrady has a name
[07:34] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: i mean edit /etc/host because i only did A records setup from the domain
[07:34] <ducasse> kingplusplus: that has no impact on dns
[07:35] <maddawg2> you can do that if you have stuff listening on the server
[07:35] <maddawg2> thats why i said it depends  what you are doing with the server
[07:35] <maddawg2> you dont have to have a hostname set if you dont want
[07:35] <maddawg2> but it helps if you are  going to be running apache or such
[07:35] <maddawg2> as it needs to know what hostname to listen on
[07:36] <maddawg2> and you can just put the hostname in the hosts file
[07:36] <maddawg2> then confirm it by doing a "hostname -f"
[07:36] <maddawg2> tho you might have to reboot after setting the fqdn
[07:38] <ducasse> !hostname | kingplusplus
[07:41] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23504864/ online 7 what is the correct format? I will be using Nginx to host a website in my server
[07:42] <maddawg2> why do you have <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:42] <maddawg2> that doesnt make sense
[07:43] <maddawg2> isnt it on the localhost?
[07:43] <maddawg2> which is <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:44] <maddawg2> or you could do <IP_ADDRESS> <FQDN here> <hostname>
[07:44] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: it is a public ip. I bought a vps
[07:44] <maddawg2> thats not a public ip
[07:44] <nchambers> <IP_ADDRESS> is not a public ip
[07:44] <nchambers> ninjad
[07:44] <maddawg2> <IP_ADDRESS> is a private ip
[07:44] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: i removed the original ip
[07:44] <maddawg2> like <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:45] <maddawg2> anything 192.168 is private
[07:45] <maddawg2> i.e. not routable on internet
[07:45] <maddawg2> the correct ip is that of the localhost
[07:45] <maddawg2> <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:45] <nchambers> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserved_IP_addresses
[07:45] <maddawg2> or <IP_ADDRESS> (both do the same thing)
[07:45] <maddawg2> kingplusplus, See here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/158957/how-to-set-the-fully-qualified-domain-name-in-12-04
[07:45] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: i only changed the IP for that was there because i don’t want people to see or ddos it
[07:46] <maddawg2> what?
[07:46] <maddawg2> what was there?
[07:46] <maddawg2> it should be the localhost
[07:46] <maddawg2> not anything else
[07:46] <maddawg2> just the localhost ip
[07:46] <maddawg2> loopback ip
[07:46] <nchambers> kingplusplus, removing an IP from the hosts file doesn't prevent a DDOS...
[07:46] <nchambers> that doesn't change or remove its ip
[07:46] <maddawg2> he didnt want us to s ee it
[07:46] <kir> хм
[07:46] <nchambers> ah
[07:46] <maddawg2> is what he said
[07:46] <nchambers> I misread
[07:46] <maddawg2> but it doesnt matter cuz it's wrong
[07:46] <maddawg2> lol
[07:47] <maddawg2> he needs to hse the loopback address
[07:47] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: it is a fresh server and it has <IP_ADDRESS> b04s04
[07:47] <maddawg2> thats not the loopback address
[07:47] <maddawg2> YOU NEED TO USE THE LOOPBACK ADDRESS
[07:47] <maddawg2> that ip <IP_ADDRESS> means nothing
[07:48] <maddawg2> use the loopback address as outlined in the forum i sent you
[07:48] <maddawg2> 127.0.x.x
[07:48] <maddawg2> that is always the loopback address of any computer
[07:48] <nchambers> that and ::1
[07:48] <PeaceAndFreedom> how can i disable a shortcut key?
[07:49] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: well i have changed it to <IP_ADDRESS> oga-on.xyz oga-on (on line 7)
[07:49] <kingplusplus> i suppose that is it for now
[07:50] <maddawg2> why would you do that
[07:51] <maddawg2> you already have an entry for <IP_ADDRESS> at the top
[07:51] <maddawg2> see where it says localhost
[07:51] <maddawg2> just add the FQDN
[07:51] <maddawg2> so it's <IP_ADDRESS> localhost <then domain here>
[07:51] <maddawg2> you shouldn't define it twice
[07:51] <maddawg2> just once
[07:51] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: ok thanks
[07:52] <maddawg2> tho i'd do it:
[07:52] <maddawg2> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost
[07:52] <maddawg2> <IP_ADDRESS> <hostname> <FQDN>
[07:52] <maddawg2> two different lines
[07:52] <maddawg2> whereas hostname is just the name if the computer
[07:53] <maddawg2> then you might need to reboot and run the command "hostname -f"
[07:53] <maddawg2> and then "hostname"
[07:53] <maddawg2> and see what the output is of each
[07:53] <crazyoldworld> how do i start bluez
[07:53] <crazyoldworld> bt daemon
[07:54] <PeaceAndFreedom> how can i disable a shortcut key?
[07:55] <crazyoldworld> modset
[07:55] <crazyoldworld> modeset inxconfig
[07:56] <ducasse> PeaceAndFreedom: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13455397/disable-ubuntu-keyboard-shortcuts
[08:16] <Ado> ciao
[08:16] <Ado> !list
[08:20] <newbie_> msg NickServ ubuntuNewBie
[08:20] <newbie_> hello everyone
[08:20] <newbie_> I need help on how to make my new java installation to be detected by other applications that needs it
[08:21] <newbie_> I got this error: bash: /usr/bin/java: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error
[08:22] <newbie_> Any help will be greatly appreciated
[08:23] <ShoaibJahejo> Ofcourse, if someone who knows about it will surely reply if he/she is reading these messages
[08:23] <ShoaibJahejo> since i have no idea about it
[08:24] <newbie_> been waiting for quite a while already for any replies
[08:24] <cfhowlett> !patience | newbie_
[08:25] <ShoaibJahejo> Go for it
[08:26] <for{}> how can i disable a shortcut key?
[08:26] <Random832> newbie_: you should also be aware that it's the middle of the night in america
[08:26] <cfhowlett> OTOH, ubuntu is global so ...
[08:27] <Random832> newbie_, how did you install java? is it possible you downloaded a 64-bit java for a 32-bit system?
[08:27] <for{}> yeah, global with 99% american users and devs
[08:27] <newbie_> cfhowlett: http://askubuntu.com/questions/430434/replace-openjdk-with-oracle-jdk-on-ubuntu
[08:27] <Random832> cfhowlett, yes but the channel still has activity cycles, and it's pretty early in the morning in europe too
[08:27] <ShoaibJahejo> really ? 99% americans ?
[08:27] <ShoaibJahejo> woah
[08:27] <Random832> on a sunday
[08:28] <newbie_> cfhowlett: http://askubuntu.com/questions/430434/replace-openjdk-with-oracle-jdk-on-ubuntu
[08:28] <newbie_> I tried following that tutorial and it the apps that need java no longer runs
[08:28] <Random832> global or not there are still dead hours
[08:28] <Random832> newbie_, what is the output of uname -a
[08:28] <newbie_> I tried following the tutorial to the letter
[08:28] <for{}> freenode becomes really active when in america is 12-13
[08:28] <for{}> until then, silence
[08:29] <for{}> how can i disable a shortcut key?
[08:29] <newbie_> Linux username-HP-ProBook-4230s 4.4.0-47-generic #68-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 26 19:39:59 UTC 2016 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:29] <newbie_> Random832: why you need that for
[08:29] <ShoaibJahejo> for{}:google it bro
[08:29] <Random832> newbie_, ok, so you are *not* on a 64-bit system
[08:29] <for{}> ShoaibJahejo, man, i have shortcut key 'x+y+z', how do i disable it?
[08:29] <newbie_> I am
[08:30] <Random832> no, you're not.
[08:30] <for{}> i want a generic manner
[08:30] <Random832> that is not the uname of a 64-bit system
[08:30] <ducasse> for{}: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13455397/disable-ubuntu-keyboard-shortcuts
[08:30] <ShoaibJahejo> for{}:i'm actually not getting what you are trying to say
[08:30] <newbie_> but I am running on one
[08:30] <Random832> you followed the instructions "to the letter", despite that the instructions said it was an example for x64 and that it depends on the type of processor
[08:30] <for{}> ducasse, 'Find the shortcut you're trying to disable'
[08:30] <newbie_> my laptop is core i5
[08:30] <ducasse> !google | ShoaibJahejo
[08:31] <Random832> newbie_, but you don't have 64-bit ubuntu installed
[08:31] <ShoaibJahejo> ops!
[08:31] <newbie_> what?
[08:31] <Random832> i don't know what you mean by 'what?'
[08:31] <ShoaibJahejo> *Runs*
[08:31] <newbie_> but I did use the one from ubunt
[08:31] <for{}> ducasse, how do i disable alt+` ?
[08:33] <newbie_> Random any idea how I can run my java
[08:33] <ducasse> for{}: if there isn't a list of shortcuts and their bindings i'm not sure, i don't use unity
[08:34] <for{}> ducasse, what do you use?
[08:34] <ducasse> for{}: i3
[08:35] <for{}> i3 and ubuntu?
[08:35] <baizon> newbie_:
[08:35] <newbie_> yes
[08:35] <baizon> newbie_: why do you want to install oracle jdk? why not openjdk?
[08:35] <newbie_> because android studio has problems with it
[08:36] <ducasse> for{}: yes, why?
[08:36] <for{}> i thought newbie_ wants to be cool, thats why he wants oracle jdk
[08:36] <for{}> ducasse, i was wondering if its possible to have i3 installed on ubuntu, thats all
[08:37] <ducasse> for{}: there's a package called i3-wm that contains just the wm, and a metapackage called i3 that includes useful tools.
[08:37] <newbie_> Documents/AndroidStudio/bin$ ./studio.sh
[08:38] <newbie_> I tried that command
[08:38] <for{}> ducasse, what should i install?
[08:38] <for{}> im a noob
[08:38] <newbie_> and it gave me this reply:  /usr/local/java/jdk1.8.0_112/bin/java: 1: /usr/local/java/jdk1.8.0_112/bin/java: Syntax error: end of file unexpected (expecting ")")
[08:39] <for{}> ducasse, the metapackage i guess?
[08:39] <kingplusplus> i have setup my hostname and fqdm http://paste.ubuntu.com/23505024/ my question is what is difference with server.example.com used in host files and www.example.com used in browsers? why don’t people set that in host files. please see line 8 and 10
[08:39] <ducasse> for{}: if you want to test it, the i3 package, or you will need to manually set up some stuff.
[08:39] <for{}> ducasse, if i want it for good, still i3?
[08:39] <erwinnovo> baizon
[08:40] <ducasse> for{}: yes, unless you install alternatives to things like i3status.
[08:40] <newbie_> baizon
[08:40] <newbie_> did you see my message
[08:41] <for{}> ducasse, what package did you install for yourself?
[08:41] <backbox> hi
[08:41] <backbox> hello
[08:41] <baizon> newbie_: im reading that is pretty save to use openjdk, but 8, also there is a android studio ppa
[08:41] <for{}> well, hi, mate
[08:42] <ducasse> for{}: the i3 package, i think, although i probably don't need most of the other stuff as i have a config.
[08:42] <backbox> i want some help
[08:42] <for{}> i want money
[08:42] <cfhowlett> !ask | backbox
[08:42] <newbie_> baizon: what do you mean
[08:42] <for{}> ducasse, ok, thanks
[08:42] <backbox> is there anyone to help me
[08:42] <newbie_> I do not get you sorry
[08:42] <for{}> backbox, its the void here
[08:42] <cfhowlett> backbox, dude.  that is what this channel is for.  now ASK your ubuntu question.
[08:43] <baizon> newbie_: https://paolorotolo.github.io/android-studio/
[08:44] <Random832> newbie_, you need to install the 32-bit x86 version because you have a 32-bit version of ubuntu
[08:44] <dikiaap> !patience
[08:47] <for{}> ducasse, how can i make right mouse button my primary button in i3m?
[08:47] <for{}> s/i3m/i3
[08:49] <for{}> does anyone know how can i make right mouse button my primary button in i3m?
[08:49] <ducasse> for{}: i think you can remap mouse buttons with xmodmap, not sure.
[08:50] <baizon> for{}: google -> my first hit ... https://faq.i3wm.org/question/927/how-can-i-change-the-left-and-right-mouse-buttons.1.html
[08:51] <for{}>  i know in unity, xmodmap doesnt work
[08:52] <for{}> because setxkbmap resets all xmodmap changes
[08:52] <for{}> but xmodmap works in i3, right?
[08:52] <ducasse> for{}: it's a hack, but if you don't call setxkbmap afterwards it works.
[08:53] <for{}> i used xmodmap commands in unity and after a while they were reset automatically
[08:53] <newbie_> rm: cannot remove '/usr/local/java': Is a directory
[08:53] <newbie_> I got that problem
[08:53] <for{}> so i had to implement a timer that runs xmodmap commands every 5 secs
[08:53] <newbie_> when I type this on the terminal: rm /usr/local/java
[08:54] <newbie_> baizon I help with removing java directory from /usr/local
[08:54] <for{}> ducasse, setxkbmap commands work under i3 too, right?
[08:56] <DataAdmin> Anyone got ideas on nice allways-on apps you can run when you have a your own server?
[08:56] <DataAdmin> Like ZNC that i just got
[08:56] <cfhowlett> !server | DataAdmin
[08:57] <baizon> newbie_: sudo rm -rf /usr/local/java
[08:58] <newbie_> baizon: thanks :)
[08:58] <ducasse> for{}: it works for all x stuff. there's probably a cleaner way now, maybe xinput.
[08:58] <DataAdmin> cfhowlett, thanks.. i know many "typical" server apps. I cannot find use for that many of them. But ZNC is just a life enchancer
[08:59] <kingplusplus> i have setup my hostname and fqdm http://paste.ubuntu.com/23505024/ my question is what is difference with server.example.com used in host files and www.example.com used in browsers? why don’t people set that in host files. please see line 8 and 10
[09:00] <newbie_> one more thing
[09:00] <newbie_> I have an icon that looks like I question mark
[09:01] <newbie_> why is it like that
[09:01] <newbie_> the icon on the left
[09:01] <ducasse> kingplusplus: other people don't set that in their hostfiles, they use dns to reach your site
[09:02] <kingplusplus> ducasse: i mean from example i have seen nobody specifies www. but i see blog
[09:03] <kingplusplus> i see blog.domain.com
[09:03] <kingplusplus> mail.domain.com
[09:03] <ducasse> kingplusplus: the normal thing is to redirect www.domain.com to domain.com
[09:04] <kingplusplus> ducasse:  since i do not have domain.com in my host files rather  i have server.domain.com is this not going to be a problem?
[09:05] <kingplusplus> ducasse: sorry i sound stupid but i never get it clear from all the reading
[09:06] <ducasse> kingplusplus: it shouldn't be, but you can put both there if you want
[09:16] <newbie_> cfhowlett: how just installed
[09:16] <newbie_> apache
[09:16] <newbie_> and I was trying to run info.php
[09:16] <newbie_> it would not want me to due to permission errors
[09:16] <cfhowlett> completely outside my scope of knowledge.  sorry.
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> newbie_: best way to solve your issue, is re-ask once in a while here in channel
[09:17] <newbie_> lotuspsychje: I just solve of the issues
[09:18] <newbie_> what i need is the command to allow my user account to run a file once I copied and pasted a folder inside /var/www/html
[09:20] <newbie_> lotuspsychje:  sudo chmod -rwx info.php
[09:20] <newbie_> but it does not make the info.php file into a green colored filename
[09:21] <ducasse> newbie_: that removes all permissions
[09:21] <newbie_> ducasse: then what is the correct command then
[09:21] <ducasse> newbie_: depends on what permissions you want
[09:22] <newbie_> ducasse: so this should have been the command: sudo chmod +rwx info.php
[09:27] <black_> need hint about web400
[09:28] <lenswipee_> hi my ubuntu has 1 admin and 1 standard user and 1 guest account. i played around with the grub file because i forgot a password. Problem now is Ubuntu auto logs into standard account without needing a password (but it does actually has one set). I have to log out in order to select and log into other accounts. help
[09:30] <bekks> lenswipee_: boot a live cd, chroot into your system, reset the admin password.
[09:31] <lenswipee_> bekks, i remember all the passwords for the accounts now but because i edited grub it now auto logs into standard account without a password on boot.
[09:31] <bekks> Grub changes do not lead to autologin.
[09:31] <bekks> You configured something else, too.
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> lenswipee_: disable autologin in your users settings?
[09:32] <lenswipee_> lotuspsychje, ill try that
[09:33] <ducasse> lenswipee_: or check if the user is a member of the group nopasswdlogin
[09:34] <lenswipee_> i unticked autologin in the standard account. strange how it prompted for admin password for that.
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:35] <lenswipee_> lotuspsychje, something wrong?
[09:35] <lenswipee_> ducasse, how i do that?
[09:35] <hron84> Hi! I have a problem with the Ubuntu's sound system. I had a correct working setup here but I had to reinstall my machine completely and I moved from Trusty to Xenial. Everything is fine, but my microphone is stopped working, and I have no idea how can I fix it. I already poked around all buttons in Pavucontrol, and this tool is really awesome because it shows me "microphone - plugged in" and if i raise the boosting level, it displays some noise
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> !sound | hron84
[09:36] <tsn> Will installing microcode doing anything
[09:36] <hron84> lotuspsychje: read that stuff, did all the thing, nothing worked.
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> hron84: did you try a pulseaudio restart?
[09:36] <lenswipee_> ducasse, how i do that?
[09:36] <hron84> I did a completet machine restart, I hope it restart pulseaudio too.
[09:37] <ikonia> why would restarting the machine not restart pulse ?
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> hron84: check your logs on sound issues also perhaps
[09:37] <ikonia> how do you expect a reboot to "not" restart a service ?
[09:37] <hron84> ikonia: it was an irony
[09:37] <ikonia> no it wasn't
[09:37] <hron84> lotuspsychje: errm... which logs
[09:37] <hron84> ikonia: from me, it was an irony. Trust me, I know my intentions :P
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> hron84: syslog for example could hold sound(card) errors
[09:38] <ikonia> there is nothing ironic about it
[09:39] <hron84> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23505193/
[09:39] <hron84> that's all I can found about snd|sound|alsa
[09:40] <hron84> ikonia: okay, then there wasn't. I am really sorry my gigantic dumbness. Are you satisfied?
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> hron84: your system up to date to latest .1 ?
[09:41] <hron84> lotuspsychje: it's a fresh install and yes I did aptitude full-uprgade
[09:41] <tsn> Is there a way to tell if trim is enabled on a ssd install using EXT4?
[09:41] <hron84> I used the correct command just typing wrong here.
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> !trim | tsn
[09:41] <easyOnMe> lotuspsychje: just need some help
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> hron84: can you check lsb_release -a for making sure
[09:42] <easyOnMe> lotuspsychje: what command shall I use to determine my username on the laptop I am using
[09:42] <hron84> lotuspsychje: Description:	Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[09:42] <hron84> Is it okay?
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> hron84: yes, great tnx
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> hron84: perhaps something went wrong on transition from trusty to xenial, could you test a xenial liveusb and check mic there?
[09:43] <ducasse> easyOnMe: 'id' or 'echo $USER'
[09:43] <nihilul> ducasse: how can i make my xsession file read?
[09:43] <nihilul> i wanna use i3
[09:44] <ducasse> nihilul: which xsession file? just select i3 on the login screen.
[09:44] <nihilul> yes, but the commands in xsession arent execute
[09:44] <nihilul> executed
[09:45] <nihilul> i wanna have commands executed once i enter i3
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> hron84: i presume your mic worked fine in trusty?
[09:45] <ducasse> nihilul: what did you name the file?
[09:45] <easyOnMe> lotuspsychje: ok then the next question is how come I am not able to paste any folder into the /var/www/html directory when I just adde my user name into the root group
[09:45] <nihilul> .xsession
[09:45] <nihilul> ~/.xsession
[09:46] <ducasse> nihilul: use ~/.xsessionrc
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> easyOnMe: why you asking me this?
[09:46] <lenswipee_> it seems i found a way to login into a standard account without a password through a grub edit
[09:46] <easyOnMe> lotuspsychje: ls -ld /var/www/html/
[09:46] <easyOnMe> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 20 15:21 /var/www/html/
[09:46] <nihilul> ducasse: i3 man page says smth else
[09:46] <easyOnMe> because I just added my username to the root group but still I have no write permission to the /var/www/html directory
[09:47] <nihilul> if i rename it ~/.xsessionrc, will work?
[09:47] <hron84> lotuspsychje: of course
[09:47] <hron84> lotuspsychje: I used it for teamspeak, skype, and facebook messenger too, so i'm pretty sure it worked before. Also, it works under Windows.
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> hron84: perhaps some scrambled config file of sound, got messed up
[09:48] <hron84> lotuspsychje: I tried with a completely new account/profile (moved only non-linux related stuff, missed the whole .config, .local, .cache, .pulse* dirs/files) and did not helped
[09:48] <lenswipee_> when i get notified of a ubuntu software update it says version 16 not 16 LTS. why?
[09:48] <bekks> lenswipee_: whats the output of "lsb_release -sd"?
[09:49] <cfhowlett> lenswipee_, you have to tell software settings to use "LTS only" updates
[09:49] <Welastevil> hi folks!
[09:49] <Welastevil>  good morning...
[09:49] <hron84> lenswipee_: yakkety is not an LTS.
[09:49] <Welastevil> My system is too slow.... I dont know why... I mean...it is slow mainly fro movie and images projection.
[09:49] <lenswipee_> cfhowlett, where is software settings found?
[09:50] <Welastevil> I already testart...but it doesnt soldv the rpoblem
[09:50] <bekks> lenswipee_: Just type the command above first to see which version you are on.
[09:50] <cfhowlett> lenswipee_, in the "software" app, strangely enought
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> hron84: can you tail -f /var/logsyslog and plugin your mic plz?
[09:50] <hron84> lotuspsychje: and also as I said, pavucontrol can see my microphone (if i plug in the headset, the text changes from plugged to unplugged) just it records only noise not my voice.
[09:50] <bekks> Welastevil: rebooting doesnt solve problems. What is "slow" in detail?
[09:50] <ducasse> nihilul: trust me, ~/.xesssionrc works on ubuntu
[09:50] <hron84> lotuspsychje: nothing happened
[09:51] <Welastevil> humm...like when I open a movie, at diaplys shivering images for example
[09:51] <Welastevil> mouse clicking response is some seconds slow as well
[09:51] <for{}> ducasse, you are right, it works!
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> hron84: allrighty, i would go for the liveusb xenial test, or deeper investigate with alsa perhaps in #alsa?
[09:51] <for{}> thanks, ducasse
[09:51] <cfhowlett> Welastevil, how much video ram?  what resolution on the video?
[09:51] <lenswipee_> cfhowlett, huh? how to navigate from the windows key?
[09:51] <bekks> Welastevil: which CPU do you have, how much RAM?
[09:51] <hron84> lotuspsychje: I've no working usb pendrive sadly. I plan to buy one but currently I haven't.
[09:51] <iamkiran> I am getting error while running mysql. ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES). How can I solve this error? Please I need help.
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: right graphics drivers installed?
[09:52] <for{}> ducasse, i pressed ctrl+z inside my browser and i3 froze. do you know why?
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> hron84: perhaps fiddling with few kernels also?
[09:52] <cfhowlett> lenswipee_, go to dash, type "software"
[09:52] <Welastevil> 16 ram
[09:52] <bekks> Welastevil: 16GB RAM.
[09:52] <Welastevil> ahhh...I think I know why!
[09:52] <ducasse> for{}: nope.
[09:52] <bekks> Welastevil: Do you mind to share?
[09:52] <Welastevil>  it started after a problem in updating OS from ubuntu sftware!
[09:53] <Welastevil> I can not do it fro few days...
[09:53] <lenswipee_> cfhowlett, right i get moun discover doing that
[09:53] <Welastevil> yeah 16 gig ram
[09:53] <bekks> Welastevil: And which problem do you talk about?
[09:53] <bekks> Welastevil: "a problem" doesnt mean much.
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> hmm i also noticed gnome-software bug few days
[09:53] <hron84> lotuspsychje: I tried an Arch Live CD before just for make my laptop work temporarly, and it had same issue but I did not payed attention because I thought it's an issue with this Live thing and I also could live without mic too. But now, I'd like to make it work again.
[09:54] <rbshadow> hi1
[09:54] <Welastevil> Intel® Core™ i7 CPU Q 740 @ 1.73GHz × 8
[09:54] <bekks> Welastevil: And which update problem do you talk about?
[09:54] <rbshadow> WoW
[09:54] <rbshadow> so hot configuration
[09:54] <hron84> lotuspsychje: and also I borrowed that usb cd drive I had to give it back.
[09:54] <Welastevil> the probem is that everytime trying to update, it can not be done
[09:54] <bekks> Welastevil: Why not?
[09:54] <Welastevil> it got an error, or so slow that it seem not finished
[09:55] <ducasse> Welastevil: didn't we fix that yesterday?
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> hron84: oh too bad mate, cant you find yourself a cheap 2gig usb stick somewhere, big lifesafer when you have ubuntu portable :p
[09:55] <bekks> Welastevil: which error...? How often do I have to ask?
[09:55] <hron84> lotuspsychje: all shops are closed atm. Maybe tomorrow.
[09:55] <hron84> you know, it's sunday.
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> hron84: online shops are open :p
[09:55] <Welastevil> I dont know which error because Im trying from "appsture" ubuntu software... let me try from the terminal....
[09:56] <Welastevil> which command if I wanna update using terminal?
[09:56] <hron84> which delivers sticks... tomorrow? :D
[09:56] <iamkiran> I am using Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS and I am getting error while running mysql.ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[09:56] <bekks> Welastevil: So pastebin "sudo apt update" in a pastebin service please.
[09:56] <hron84> lotuspsychje: I'm from Hungary btw.
[09:56] <bekks> iamkiran: so the password is wrong.
[09:56] <ducasse> Welastevil: again - didn't we fix that yesterday?
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> hron84: great, hope you get your issue fixxed
[09:56] <iamkiran> bekks: How to change password in ubuntu?
[09:57] <lenswipee_> what app are people here using to manage software on Ubuntu? the default muon discover doesn't allow me to select LTS only downloads
[09:57] <hron84> lotuspsychje: i hope too. I'll come back tomorrow and tell the results of a test with ubuntu live.
[09:57] <bekks> iamkiran: First, tyope the correct password for your mysql database account.
[09:57] <iamkiran> bekks: How to change password of mysql server in ubuntu?
[09:57] <bekks> iamkiran: log in as root user first.
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> hron84: sudo lshw -C sound showing driver okay?
[09:58] <for{}> ducasse, what font do you use?
[09:58] <ducasse> for{}: for what?
[09:58] <for{}> in i3
[09:58] <iamkiran> bekks: I think I am entering correct password?
[09:58] <bekks> iamkiran: Obviously you arent.
[09:59] <ducasse> for{}: for window titles etc? dejavu sans, i think.
[09:59] <hron84> iamkiran: mysql --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf -NBe "SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('new_password');"
[09:59] <iamkiran> bekks: How to change root password then?
[09:59] <Welastevil> http://pastebin.com/tFPvFsxp
[09:59] <Welastevil> here!
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | Welastevil
[10:00] <hron84> lotuspsychje: I'm not use lshw too much, so... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23505266/
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> hron84: lookin good, driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0
[10:00] <ducasse> Welastevil: we dealt with this yesterday
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: we dont support ppa's here mate
[10:01] <hron84> lotuspsychje: i also plan to play around with model= option but i cannot find an example for ALC233
[10:01] <Welastevil> yeah.. but the problems return ducasse
[10:01] <iamkiran> hron84: mysql --defaults-file=/etc/mysql.debian.cnf -NBe "SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('12345678');"
[10:01] <iamkiran> mysql: [ERROR] Could not open required defaults file: /etc/mysql.debian.cnf
[10:01] <iamkiran> mysql: [ERROR] Fatal error in defaults handling. Program aborted!
[10:01] <Welastevil> mmmm ok...at lest can you adivice about something to do to improve this situation?
[10:01] <hron84> ohh i made a mistake
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> hron84: lspci -nn
[10:02] <hron84> /etc/mysql/debian.cnf  <= this is the correct path
[10:02] <hron84> iamkiran: ^^
[10:02] <ducasse> Welastevil: that didn't take many hours. i explicitly told you yesterday to get rid  of all those ppas and proposed, and you said you did. you've done neither.
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> hron84: should also show audio device + model
[10:02] <hron84> lotuspsychje: 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series High Definition Audio Controller [8086:0f04] (rev 0e)
[10:03] <Cedara> Morning
[10:03] <iamkiran> hron84: mysql --defaults-file=/etc/debian.cnf -NBe "SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('12345678');"
[10:03] <iamkiran> mysql: [ERROR] Could not open required defaults file: /etc/debian.cnf
[10:03] <iamkiran> mysql: [ERROR] Fatal error in defaults handling. Program aborted!
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> hron84: you might wanna lookup that model + xenial bugs/issue
[10:03] <ducasse> Welastevil: clean out your ppas. *all* of them, *and* proposed. do not use proposed unless you have a good reason.
[10:04] <hron84> iamkiran: take close what I wrote. You missed the path again. Copy and paste it.
[10:04] <iamkiran> hron83:  mysql --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf -NBe "SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('12345678');"
[10:04] <iamkiran> mysql: [ERROR] Could not open required defaults file: /etc/mysql/debian.cnf
[10:04] <iamkiran> mysql: [ERROR] Fatal error in defaults handling. Program aborted!
[10:05] <lenswipee_> moun update manager is crap. why was it even chosen as default in distro!
[10:05] <hron84> iamkiran: are you on ubuntu?
[10:05] <iamkiran> hron84:  mysql --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf -NBe "SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('12345678');"
[10:05] <iamkiran> mysql: [ERROR] Could not open required defaults file: /etc/mysql/debian.cnf
[10:05] <iamkiran> mysql: [ERROR] Fatal error in defaults handling. Program aborted!
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> !paste | iamkiran
[10:05] <iamkiran> hron84: ya I am in ubuntu 16.04.
[10:05] <Welastevil> how to clean all of them?
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | Welastevil
[10:06] <for{}> ducasse, can
[10:06] <iamkiran> ubottu: Ok
[10:06] <for{}> ducasse, can exec from i3 config files be used to execute different programs?
[10:06] <ducasse> for{}: of course.
[10:06] <hron84> iamkiran: hmm.. what happened with your machine? That file should be there, it's an integrant part of Ubuntu MySQL installs.
[10:07] <iamkiran> hron84: i don't know. I think it's there.
[10:07] <hron84> iamkiran: if that file is there then mysql should not write it's missing.
[10:08] <hron84> there is an alternative way to reset root password but it's kinda suck.
[10:08] <Welastevil> I have installed
[10:08] <Cedara> Ubuntu 16.04 : After booting the system I regularily get a notice that the download of ttf-mscorefonts-installer failed.
[10:09] <Welastevil>  ppa purge
[10:09] <Cedara> Any idea how to figure out to solve this?
[10:09] <iamkiran> hron84: What if update debian.cnf direct in vim?
[10:09] <Welastevil> now, just typ out command and enter?
[10:09] <iamkiran> hron84: will that work?
[10:09] <bekks> Welastevil: No read the link given on how to use it.
[10:09] <hron84> iamkiran: you can't because that should contain a password you also do not know.
[10:09] <hron84> iamkiran: https://www.howtoforge.com/reset-forgotten-mysql-root-password
[10:09] <Cedara> I think it must have to do with an EULA, from my searches.
[10:10] <hron84> iamkiran: this could help to reset root password but I kindly ask you to be really, REALLY careful.
[10:10] <Welastevil> ok
[10:10] <iamkiran> hron84: ok
[10:11] <hron84> iamkiran: also when you can access mysql root again, reset 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' password to some random-generated one, and fill a debian.cnf with that. take an example from an another ubuntu mysql server that works correctly.
[10:12] <hron84> iamkiran: ubuntu does some healt checks when mysql starts and debian-sys-maint the user that ubuntu uses for this operation. It's essential to work.
[10:12] <iamkiran> hron84: Ok, I will try that if I get acces to mysql root.
[10:12] <Guest56607> hi
[10:13] <Guest56607> I am neophyte, I wanted to ask how to do so (using chmod) to make a file eliminated only by root
[10:13] <bekks> Guest56607: chmod 0644 filename
[10:13] <Guest56607> thanks :)
[10:14] <Nikola> Test
[10:15] <explosive> Guest56607: the file is owned by root right?
[10:21] <jatt> chmod -w file
[10:23] <iamkiran> hron84: I edit debian.cnf file directly and that work.
[10:24] <sifosifo777> Hello. Can ubuntu use google playstore?
[10:24] <bekks> sifosifo777: No.
[10:24] <geirha> Guest56607: If by "eliminate" you mean remove, then the file's mode is irrelevant, it's the containing directory's permissions that decide that part
[10:25] <for{}> i wanna map Ctrl+f1 to right click in i3, how do i do it?
[10:26] <for{}> i tried `bindsym --release Control+F1 xdotool click 3` but it doesnt work
[10:28] <for{}> i get 'the configured command for this shortcut could not be run successfully.'
[10:28] <for{}> i click 'show errors'
[10:28] <for{}> and i see... nothing
[10:28] <ducasse> for{}: xdotool is not an i3 command.
[10:28] <for{}> `exec xdotool...` then?
[10:29] <ducasse> for{}: yep.
[10:29] <for{}> is there a i3 builtin that simulates right click?
[10:30] <ducasse> for{}: not that i know, it doesn't really use mouse much - it's keyboard-centric
[10:33] <Cedara> Does anyone know if ttf-mscorefonts-installer vs. 3.4 is broken and ends up in a bug in 16.04?
[10:33] <cfhowlett> Cedara, worked fine for me
[10:33] <Cedara> cfhowlett - after reboot, I get a notice that the download of the packages failed
[10:34] <ducasse> cfhowlett: quite a few people have had trouble with it here recently
[10:34] <jackhumm> I Just bought a new laptop which comes with win 10 installed in uefi mode. I installed 16.04 on it. But now i can only get Ubuntu on grub menu. Tips to fix it?
[10:34] <Cedara> cfhowlett: in the forums it was said it was broken: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2343669
[10:34] <explosive> jackhumm: paste "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:34] <Cedara> it seems it could fit my problem too, but not completely sure
[10:36] <jackhumm> explosive: give me a min
[10:39] <explosive> jackhumm:
[10:39] <explosive> k
[10:39] <kiruhan2> heey/ can someone help me with discord canary ?
[10:39] <Sam54> Hi, I'm trying to mount an ssd using ubuntu in order to solve some problem with the system on the ssd. Unfortunaly it doesn't appear in /dev or in /dev/disk/by-uuid, nothing in syslog. I tried with multiple sata ports and power supply. I'm running on live-usb. Is this problem known, if yes could you help me solving it ? (I aplogize for my french-based english)
[10:40] <ruicruz> hello there. I've a very low cpu, and 1gb of ram. I have a second PC with the same amount of ram but a better cpu. is there any specific cpu tweaks that I can make on the OS to make it faster (or less slow)?
[10:41] <jackhumm> explosive: http://termbin.com/osl7
[10:41] <explosive> jackhumm: does sudo os-prober give you anything?
[10:41] <jackhumm> till now , what i understand is that my windows 10 is something related to uefi boot , and i have installed ubuntu on legacy mode
[10:41] <explosive> jackhumm: no ubuntu looks like it's in uefi mode, try "ls /sys/firmware/efi" to be sure
[10:42] <jackhumm> explosive: os prober result   /dev/sda9:Windows Recovery Environment (loader):Windows:chain
[10:42] <akik> Sam54: when you connect the ssd, run dmesg to see the device names that you can use
[10:43] <akik> Sam54: also lsblk shows them
[10:43] <jackhumm> explosive: ls /sys/firmware/efi resulted in no such file
[10:43] <explosive> jackhumm: aha, you are indeed in legacy mode then
[10:43] <jackhumm> explosive: when i boot my laptop on legacy mode , i can see grub boot loader , but when i boot in uefi mode then windows 10 boots up automatically
[10:43] <explosive> jackhumm: that's pretty odd, you usually need a bios-boot partition with gpt partitions to boot in legacy mode
[10:44] <explosive> jackhumm: aha, reinstall ubuntu in uefi mode
[10:44] <explosive> jackhumm: don't choose "reinstall ubuntu" in the installer though
[10:44] <explosive> it'll erase the whole hdd and install ubuntu
[10:44] <explosive> go for "Something else" and manually choose the partition
[10:45] <jackhumm> explosive: i dont want to erase all hdd
[10:45] <explosive> yes, reread what i said :)
[10:45] <jackhumm> explosive: anyway i can make it work without installing any of the os
[10:45] <explosive> you can if you want
[10:46] <explosive> i'd help if you want to go that route
[10:46] <jackhumm> explosive: yes,  man , i dont want erase hdd , or reinstall any of os
[10:46] <jackhumm> explosive: anyway i can convert my windows 10 to legacy mode
[10:46] <explosive> jackhumm: ok, you are like me then :D
[10:46] <explosive> nah use uefi
[10:47] <jackhumm> explosive: so that i can get burg beautiful bootloader , i like it
[10:47] <jackhumm> explosive: i want that sexy graphical bootloader , i think it works only on legacy mode
[10:47] <explosive> it's the same bootloader on those
[10:47] <explosive> that's just for the installer i think, after the install they are both purple grub menus
[10:48] <explosive> unless you mean something you add to grub?
[10:48] <jackhumm> explosive: up until now in my old dell laptop i was using windows 8.1 with ubuntu on that burg graphical boot loader
[10:48] <explosive> no idea about it
[10:48] <explosive> i have a legacy ubuntu 14.04 on another pc and it's also purple grub menu
[10:49] <jackhumm> explosive: can i somehow add both of my os on grub bootloader , because it tried sudo update-grub , but windows os partition never get added
[10:49] <explosive> right now you can't, both os have to be installed in the same mode
[10:49] <jackhumm> explosive: okay , tell me how to have both of my os on same boot menu\
[10:49] <explosive> so convert ubuntu then uefi then?
[10:50] <explosive> are you good with that?
[10:50] <jackhumm> explosive: will that help to run both
[10:50] <explosive> yeah
[10:50] <jackhumm> explosive: then yes , i just want to run both 10 and ubuntu
[10:51] <explosive> jackhumm: ok, do you have a live usb? you might need it
[10:52] <Sam54> akik: dmesg prints nothing new and lsblk too. There are only disks I had before (loop and sda)
[10:52] <akik> Sam54: does the ssd get power ?
[10:52] <jackhumm> explosive: can't i do this while being in my ubuntu
[10:52] <jackhumm> explosive: can't i do this while being in my ubuntu/
[10:52] <Sam54> akik: yes, I tried with multiple power ports and it usually works fine with all ports
[10:52] <explosive> jackhumm: yeah, but there's a step that requires the efivars to be loaded, and it might not load cause you're booted in legacy mode and it's needed to add ubuntu to the efi list
[10:53] <explosive> jackhumm: we can work around it, nevermind
[10:53] <explosive> jackhumm: type sudo blkid /dev/sda1
[10:53] <akik> Sam54: how about "sudo fdisk -l"
[10:53] <explosive> jackhumm: get the uuid, and type sudo nano /etc/fstab
[10:53] <akik> Sam54: that'll list all storage devices that linux sees
[10:53] <explosive> jackhumm: add a line that says
[10:54] <explosive> UUID=0A87-44C2 /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       1
[10:54] <explosive> replace your uuid with the one above
[10:54] <Sam54> akik: http://pastebin.com/raw/z5HXa0eN (sda is the usb key I boot from)
[10:54] <jackhumm> explosive: wait wait chap
[10:54] <jackhumm> explosive: wait wait chap/
[10:55] <jackhumm> explosive: are you talking about UUID?
[10:55] <akik> Sam54: check connections :) there's something missing
[10:55] <explosive> jackhumm: yes
[10:56] <jackhumm> explosive: are you talking about UUID?
[10:56] <jackhumm> explosive: are you talking about UUID?/
[10:56] <explosive> yes
[10:56] <explosive> jackhumm: !yes
[10:56] <jackhumm> explosive: shit keyboard
[10:56] <jackhumm> explosive: new laptop keyboard layout sucks
[10:57] <explosive> np
[10:57] <jackhumm> explosive : what line i have to put on fstab?
[10:57] <explosive> UUID=0A87-44C2 /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       1
[10:57] <explosive> with your uuid instead of the one above
[10:58] <Sam54> akik: everything appears fine. Sata and power plugged, on the motherboard and the ssd. I'm going to try with another disk (hdd).
[10:59] <akik> Sam54: btw, your english is fine
[11:00] <jackhumm> explosive: okay , added that line in fstab
[11:00] <explosive> jackhumm: great
[11:00] <explosive> jackhumm: type "sudo mount -a"
[11:00] <explosive> then type "lsblk" and see if it says sda1 is mounted at /boot/efi
[11:01] <jackhumm> sudo mount -a , mount point /boot/efi doesnt exist
[11:01] <explosive> jackhumm: ah, type sudo mkdir /boot/efi
[11:01] <jackhumm> explosive: sudo mkdir /boot/efi done
[11:02] <jackhumm> explosive: after that sudo mount -a also done
[11:02] <explosive> jackhumm: ok, lsblk all good? sda1 at /boot/efi?
[11:02] <jackhumm> explosive: lsblk , /dev/sda1 mounted at /boot/efi
[11:02] <explosive> ok, cool
[11:03] <Sam54> akik: thank you, strnagly the hdd receive no power ...
[11:03] <explosive> type sudo modprobe efivars
[11:03] <py_> hello there, I'm having an issue booting in my ubuntu box, anyone willing to help me?
[11:03] <explosive> !details | py_
[11:03] <jackhumm> explosive: holly fck dude , its like you have created the bootloader yourself ,
[11:03] <jackhumm> explosive: you are pro
[11:04] <cfhowlett> !ask | details
[11:04] <jackhumm> explosive: sudo modprobe efivars done
[11:04] <explosive> lol
[11:04] <py_> so basically today I woke up and saw on my screen the pop up saying "your machine is running on low graphics mode, you will have to configure the drivers yourself"
[11:04] <glitchd> why would my usb stick by owned by root?
[11:05] <jackhumm> explosive: now what dude
[11:05] <py_> I got a pop up before that that I there some updates available so I started updating but in the middle of it, I pressed quit because there was no progress so I asusme that might be the reason?
[11:05] <py_> explosive: any ideas?
[11:06] <py_> I can't even enter the recovery mode
[11:06] <explosive> jackhumm: ok type sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-{signed,bin} grub2-common grub-common grub-efi-amd64
[11:07] <explosive> py_: yeah that migt be it, do you have a live usb?
[11:07] <glitchd> how can i change ownership of my usb drive?
[11:07] <py_> explosive: probs yeah
[11:07] <jackhumm> explosive: i read somewhere to not run commands given by strangers blindly on linux,  but look at me , well well
[11:07] <explosive> glitchd: sudo chown owner:group /path/to/dir
[11:07] <explosive> glitchd: what filesystem is it? you can mount it from the filemanager usually
[11:08] <glitchd> explosive, owner:group?
[11:08] <srini> hi, i want to merge all mp4 files into a single file. any application is there in linux ?
[11:08] <jackhumm> explosive: sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub--blah blah done
[11:08] <explosive> jackhumm: lol, this is a support channel, it's different :D
[11:08] <py_> explosive: so what would I need to do with the live usb?
[11:08] <glitchd> explosive, i can mount it but i cant copy files to it
[11:09] <explosive> jackhumm: ok, great
[11:09] <explosive> jackhumm: let's see if it worked, try "ls -l /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu"
[11:09] <cfhowlett> glitchd, yeah, I noticed that with 16.04!  previously, USB's were easily writeable.  no more.
[11:09] <explosive> jackhumm: it should show a grubx64.efi at least
[11:10] <explosive> py_: chroot and maybe continue the update and troubleshoot stuff
[11:10] <explosive> check the logs etc
[11:10] <jackhumm> explosive: ls -l /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu , no such file
[11:10] <glitchd> cfhowlett, yea but it only does it with this one usb..?
[11:10] <explosive> jackhumm: hmm, try "sudo grub-install"
[11:11] <py_> explosive: but I don't have a GUI
[11:11] <explosive> jackhumm: no such file or perm denied?
[11:11] <jackhumm> explosive: installing . . device not specified
[11:11] <cfhowlett> glitchd, as of 16.04 NONE of my usb's have been usable for other than installing ubuntu.
[11:11] <jackhumm> explosive: i tried sudo ls -l /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu  , no such file
[11:11] <explosive> jackhumm: aha, grub legacy is still there
[11:11] <explosive> jackhumm: type "dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:12] <explosive> py_: yes, from the cli
[11:12] <jackhumm> explosive: http://termbin.com/bivz
[11:13] <explosive> py_: after you chroot sudo dpkg --configure -a should help
[11:13] <explosive> and sudo apt-get -f install
[11:13] <explosive> jackhumm: ok, type sudo apt-get purge grub-pc grub-pc-bin
[11:14] <ducasse> jackhumm: try sudo ls -l /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu
[11:14] <explosive> ducasse: same thing, fat32 is case insensitive
[11:14] <glitchd> jackhumm, sudo grub-isntall /dev/sd?
[11:14] <glitchd> *install
[11:14] <glitchd> replace the ? with whatever yours is (sda sdb ...)
[11:14] <glitchd> cfhowlett, so any idea how i can get back usability of my usb for non root users?
[11:14] <glitchd> cfhowlett, i have a bunch of usbs and this is the only one that does this
[11:15] <glitchd> cfhowlett, this is the first time too
[11:15] <explosive> it's the grub legacy packages still there causing the problem
[11:15] <jackhumm> explosive: i purged
[11:15] <jackhumm> explosive: i tried installing burg few hours ago , but i see old grub on bootloader
[11:15] <explosive> jackhumm: ok, run the previous long command apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-...bla bla bla bla
[11:16] <explosive> jackhumm: "ctrl+r" then type "grub-efi" should show it
[11:16] <explosive> then press enter to run it
[11:16] <explosive> if at first it doesn't appear, pressing ctrl+r again will go backwards through the hits
[11:17] <glitchd> cfhowlett, any ideas?
[11:17] <cfhowlett> glitchd, use a different USB?
[11:17] <jackhumm> explosive: i used up arrow key :) , will that work?
[11:18] <glitchd> cfhowlett, uhh...id like to fix it, not just ignore it
[11:18] <explosive> jackhumm: sure :)
[11:18] <py_> explosive: for some reason when I "lsb_release -a", I get as a result that my distro is Kali Linux. I had added some repos from their distro but why am I getting that?
[11:18] <jackhumm> explosive: reinstall comand done
[11:18] <glitchd> cfhowlett, its all good if you dont/cant help, ill just ask some more,theres bound to be someone that can...eventually
[11:19] <explosive> jackhumm: great, try "sudo ls -l /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu"
[11:19] <explosive> jackhumm: also try sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:19] <explosive> jackhumm: which laptop model is this? some need a little kicking in the balls to get uefi running
[11:19] <akik> glitchd: did you run the chown command ? it can also be that the usb stick is defective
[11:19] <cfhowlett> glitchd, did you use the startupdiskcreator from root or something?  never got a an easy analysis for why my USB would lock up that way.
[11:20] <jackhumm> explosive: lenovo ideapad 510
[11:20] <explosive> jackhumm: aha, it might need some
[11:20] <jackhumm> explosive: no such file for ls -l /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu
[11:20] <explosive> jackhumm: anyways, what does the ls command show?
[11:21] <glitchd> akik, im not sure what to fille the chown command out with
[11:21] <explosive> jackhumm: try "sudo grub-install"
[11:21] <glitchd> cfhowlett, no, i just plugged it in and tried to copy stuff to it and couldnt
[11:21] <jackhumm> grub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory.
[11:21] <akik> glitchd: see where it's mounted, then run "sudo chown -R yourusername /media/yourusername/nnnn" (replace with the relevant names and paths)
[11:22] <glitchd> akik, sudo chown glitchd:glitchd /dev/sdb1?
[11:22] <glitchd> ok
[11:22] <akik> glitchd: no, use the path name, not device name
[11:23] <explosive> jackhumm: odd, type "arch" what do you get?
[11:23] <ace_me> hi all
[11:23] <theyesman> hi ace_me
[11:23] <jackhumm> explosive: _x86_64
[11:23] <ace_me> I have an ubuntu where mysql refuses suddenly to start ! nothing in error.log under /var/log/mysql
[11:24] <explosive> jackhumm: try sudo grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi --target=x86_64-efi /dev/sda
[11:24] <jackhumm> explosive: x86_64
[11:24] <akik> glitchd: which filesystem do you have on the usb stick ?
[11:24] <glitchd> akik, geeze man thank you, ive been trying to figure this out for the last little bit, i wanted to try it myself before i came here. thank you again.
[11:24] <glitchd> cfhowlett, thank you also
[11:24] <glitchd> akik, its fixed now
[11:24] <ace_me> when I do  sudo -u mysql  mysqld I get [Warning] Using unique option prefix key_buffer instead of key_buffer_size is deprecated and
[11:24] <akik> glitchd: because if it's fat32/ntfs then the chown doesn't work
[11:24] <glitchd> akik, thx anyways
[11:24] <ace_me> Error on realpath() on '/var/lib/mysql-files' (Error 2)
[11:24] <jackhumm> explosive: efibootmgr: EFI variables are not supported on this system.
[11:25] <akik> glitchd: ok
[11:25] <ace_me> [ERROR] Failed to access directory for --secure-file-priv.
[11:25] <explosive> jackhumm: ok try sudo modprobe efivars one last time and give it another go
[11:25] <ace_me> however mysql files ar under /var/lib/mysql not /var/lib/mysql-files as in that response from command
[11:26] <glitchd> akik, just so you know, it was ext4
[11:26] <laclinux> good morning, how do i see what version of linux im useing ?
[11:26] <glitchd> thanks guys, its just about bed time for me now
[11:26] <glitchd> lsb-release
[11:26] <cfhowlett> laclinux, cat /etc/issue
[11:26] <explosive> jackhumm: no worries btw, we are pretty much done
[11:27] <jackhumm> explosive: okay sudo modeprobe efivars done
[11:27] <laclinux> thank you cfhowlett
[11:27] <jackhumm> explosive: okay sudo modprobe efivars done
[11:27] <cfhowlett> happy2help! laclinux
[11:27] <ace_me> Hi all ! I have an ubuntu where mysql refuses suddenly to start ! nothing in error.log under /var/log/mysql  when I do  sudo -u mysql  mysqld I get [Warning] Using unique option prefix key_buffer instead of key_buffer_size is deprecated and [ERROR] Failed to access directory for --secure-file-priv. However mysql files ar under /var/lib/mysql not /var/lib/mysql-files as in that response from command ! can anyone here help me a bit to fix this
[11:27] <glitchd> lol damnit
[11:27] <explosive> jackhumm: did the grub command work now or still says efi variables not supported?
[11:29] <jackhumm> explosive: okay sudo modeprobe efivars done/
[11:29] <jackhumm> explosive: grub command ?
[11:29] <explosive> jackhumm: sudo grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi --target=x86_64-efi /dev/sda
[11:30] <ace_me> service mysql restart outputs start: Job failed to start
[11:30] <ace_me> where should I find some error for this please ?
[11:31] <jackhumm> explosive: efivars not supported  , insallation finished
[11:31] <explosive> jackhumm: np
[11:32] <explosive> jackhumm: try ls /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu any grubx64.efi file?
[11:32] <explosive> *sudo ls
[11:32] <jackhumm> explosive: yes got it
[11:33] <jackhumm> explosive:  grubx64.efi and some grub.cfg
[11:34] <explosive> jackhumm: great, type sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi.backup
[11:34] <for{}> how can i switch between windows found on different workspaces and how do i switch between windows on the same workspace?
[11:35] <for{}> in i3
[11:35] <jackhumm> explosive: done
[11:35] <cfhowlett> ctrl-tab usually for{}
[11:35] <py_> does anyone know a way to backup files via terminal?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> !backup | py_
[11:35] <explosive> jackhumm: since it won't take the efivars to add ubuntu to the list, we'll backup the windows efi file, and put ubuntu instead to boot ubuntu, it's very likely the bios wouldn't boot ubuntu anyways and we'd have to that anyways to trick the bios, it's common on hp and lenovo especially
[11:35] <jackhumm> explosive: i have one more question lined up after this , anyway i can make triple finger swipe gesture to change workspace in ubuntu
[11:35] <for{}> cfhowlett, it doesnt work
[11:36] <explosive> jackhumm: i've no idea, it can be done pretty sure
[11:36] <jackhumm> explosive: okay, what i have to do
[11:36] <jackhumm> explosive: should i restart ?
[11:36] <cfhowlett> might be different with i3, for{} .  sorry.
[11:36] <explosive> jackhumm: sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi
[11:37] <explosive> jackhumm: no, we just switched the files, now bootmgfw.efi is the grubx64.efi renamed
[11:37] <jackhumm> explosive: yes done
[11:37] <explosive> jackhumm: one last step is to change the file that grub uses to look for windows efi
[11:37] <ducasse> for{}: mod+arrow keys
[11:37] <explosive> type sudo nano /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft
[11:38] <sprocket12> Hi all. Small question, what does &> mean in "id -u lfs &>/dev/null"
[11:38] <jackhumm> explosive: ok
[11:38] <for{}> mod = alt key?
[11:38] <explosive> jackhumm: there's a line in the middle that says bootmgfw.efi make it bootmgfw.efi.backup
[11:38] <ducasse> for{}: whatever you set it to, usually alt or win
[11:39] <for{}> ducasse, it doesnt work
[11:39] <ducasse> for{}: it doesn't switch windows?
[11:39] <jackhumm> explosive: ok/
[11:39] <jackhumm> explosive: save it and exit?
[11:39] <for{}> it doesnt switch windows
[11:39] <explosive> jackhumm: yes
[11:39] <ducasse> for{}: which key did you try?
[11:40] <jackhumm> explosive: yes after that
[11:40] <explosive> jackhumm: try sudo update-grub now, see if it mentions windows
[11:40] <for{}> ducasse, windows in fullscreen, found on different workspaces. whats the combo to switch between?
[11:40] <ducasse> for{}: mod+number of workspace by default
[11:42] <for{}> ducasse, windows in fullscreen, found on the same workspace. whats the combo to switch between?
[11:42] <jackhumm> explosive: found windows recovery environment
[11:42] <explosive> jackhumm: no mention of bootmgfw.efi.backup ?
[11:42] <ducasse> for{}: only one window can be fullscreen on one workspace
[11:42] <ace_me> mysql-files folder was missing ! any ideea how this is possible ? it is a hacking attempt or could be a mysql failure ?
[11:42] <explosive> jackhumm: can you run "dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999" one more time?
[11:42] <jackhumm> explosive: when running sudo update-grub , no i think
[11:43] <for{}> ducasse, how can switch betwwen windows in the same workspace when the current window is fullscreen?
[11:43] <explosive> why is it still acting like grub legacy :S
[11:43] <sprocket12> Anyone?
[11:43] <ducasse> for{}: toggle fullscreen off again.
[11:43] <jackhumm> explosive: http://termbin.com/znro
[11:43] <explosive> jackhumm: thanks
[11:44] <for{}> ducasse, do you know another wm that can do what i want without toggling fullscreen?
[11:44] <explosive> jackhumm: odd, it's not there anymore
[11:44] <for{}> and light as i3
[11:44] <explosive> jackhumm: ok, np, one last thing as a precaution
[11:44] <jackhumm> explosive: i have grub-customizer installed , when i run it , it says burg found , want to customize burg instead of grub ?
[11:44] <jackhumm> explosive: oka
[11:45] <jackhumm> explosive: tell me
[11:45] <explosive> jackhumm: sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/boot/bootx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/boot/bootx64.efi.backup
[11:45] <ducasse> for{}: i only use i3. but you probably don't want a tiling wm.
[11:45] <explosive> then sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/boot/bootx64.efi
[11:45] <for{}> ducasse, do you have suggestions for another wm?
[11:46] <jackhumm> explosive: done both command
[11:46] <ducasse> for{}: as i said, i only use i3, that's what i know well. there are *tons* of wms.
[11:46] <for{}> ok
[11:46] <explosive> jackhumm: ok, try to restart, choose uefi mode in the bios
[11:46] <ducasse> for{}: you can script pretty much anything in i3, though.
[11:47] <explosive> jackhumm: ubuntu should load, then when it loads come back here, to get windows in the grub menu
[11:47] <rommel> anyone with a 2009 macbook-pro work out booting from usb... without os x or refind
[11:48] <explosive> and let me know how things went as well :D
[11:48] <ducasse> freecoder: fluxbox and openbox are both pretty light wms, but nowhere near as powerful as i3.
[11:48] <laclinux> how do i update to the latest verion ubuntu?
[11:48] <explosive> laclinux: from which version?
[11:49] <cfhowlett> laclinux, what version are you on?
[11:49] <for{}> ducasse, whats i3 features you love the most and other wms dont have?
[11:49] <laclinux> zorin9 Ultimate
[11:49] <ducasse> for{}: not sure, full keyboard control and ipc scripting maybe.
[11:49] <cfhowlett> laclinux, download the ubuntu .iso and clean install.  zorin is not ubuntu so you cannot upgrade to ubuntu
[11:50] <cfhowlett> !zorin | laclinux
[11:51] <laclinux> thanks
[11:51] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[11:53] <jackhumm> explosive: i restarted in efi mode , nothing went well , some recovery option started , and when i switched back to legacy mode , here i am back with ubuntu
[11:54] <glitchd> cfhowlett, i cant even count the times you have helped me. but theres been a lot.
[11:54] <cfhowlett> glitchd, this is how I learn ubuntu!  I track down answers to interesting problems.  that's why I am so happy2help!
[11:55] <explosive> jackhumm: recovery option for windows?
[11:55] <jackhumm> cfhowlett: thats good , i think you would have helped me somewhere in past , take a thanks
[11:55] <cfhowlett> jackhumm, happy2help! you as well
[11:55] <jackhumm> explosive: no , i think it was lenovo recovery option
[11:56] <explosive> jackhumm: aha
[11:56] <explosive> my experience with lenovo is that they're tricky son of a b.....
[11:56] <explosive> jackhumm: do you have an option for enabling or disabling secureboot in the bios?
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:57] <rebo> question, what's the difference between /media and /mnt?
[11:57] <rebo> are there any recommendations with regards to mounting drives
[11:57] <explosive> rebo: temporary mounts in /mnt
[11:57] <explosive> /media is like for the user stuff
[11:57] <glitchd> explosive, just and fyi, if he disables secureboot, windows will not boot, but linux will. so if he wants to boot into windows later, he will have to switch it back
[11:57] <jackhumm> explosive: or we can say they are shitty boxes , because we cant install and run ubuntu on them
[11:57] <explosive> the filemanager mounts stuff there when you click on the usb
[11:58] <jackhumm> explosive: i dont know about this secureboot thing
[11:58] <rebo> explosive: so fixed drive should go under /media
[11:58] <jackhumm> explosive: i dont know about this secureboot thing/
[11:58] <explosive> glitchd: no windows still boots with secureboot off
[11:58] <jackhumm> explosive: what should i do?
[11:58] <rebo> ok, thanks
[11:58] <glitchd> explosive, my other toshiba laptop wouldnt.
[11:59] <glitchd> explosive, thats the only reason i felt the need to say something
[11:59] <explosive> jackhumm: try to go to the bios and see if there's any option regarding secureboot, if there's not, try to set the admin password for the bios it sometimes lets you change more stuff
[12:00] <explosive> glitchd: never came across that before, not saying i dont believe you
[12:00] <glitchd> it may not be called secureboot in the bios also
[12:00] <glitchd> on the toshiba it was a boot mode switch with 2 options, i dont really remember them but i think one was called csm..?
[12:01] <explosive> that's to choose legacy
[12:01] <explosive> jackhumm: which ideapad was it again, maybe google can shed some light
[12:02] <jackhumm> explosive: ideapad 510
[12:02] <glitchd> explosive, i think youre right, legacy and csm
[12:02] <glitchd> ..i thuink
[12:03] <explosive> jackhumm: it's pretty odd, in uefi mode by default it looks for efi/boot/bootx64.efi and efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi and boots them, both of them are now ubuntu's grubx64.efi
[12:04] <explosive> jackhumm: maybe somehow ubuntu isn't in its key list for secureboot and it defaults to a recovery option
[12:04] <jackhumm> explosive: should i try disabling secureboot
[12:04] <explosive> i read that microsoft and lenovo were playing dirty and not allowing linux and other to be installed
[12:04] <glitchd> its just a way for microsoft to stick it to the free software community
[12:04] <explosive> jackhumm: yes
[12:04] <glitchd> exactly
[12:05] <glitchd> thats precisely what theyre doing
[12:05] <jackhumm> explosive: then they can l* my a** , because i am learning developement and programming and i wont remove ubuntu