[12:08] <stoft> yes: mine is set to arts engine
[12:09] <AppleSux> Thanks guys I am gonna try Amarok 1.4
[12:09] <gatekeeper> AppleSux: stoft got mine set to xine engine
[12:09] <stoft> AppleSux: I had problems getting it to run with the xine engine, with the arts engine it works fine.
[12:09] <AppleSux> gatekeepr- yeah i do to but its not working
[12:09] <stoft> check out the faq though, they mention the xine engine there.
[12:11] <stoft> hmm... just tried switching, xine works fine, oh well. :D
[12:12] <user-land> blissex, who should i contact for this ?
[12:12] <Blissex> user-land: ah that's a difficult question.
[12:13] <haldor> just figured the flash sound and konquerer problem out. goto settings -> configure konquerer -> plugins -> tick the box "Use artsdsp to pipe lugin through aRts
[12:14] <Blissex> haldor: ah yes, that works around it.
[12:15] <user-land> blissex, why ? do they hide ?
[12:15] <csanchezmonte> goodbye.
[12:16] <Blissex> user-land: no more because it is a very specific and particular combination.
[12:17] <stoft> haldor: good work
[12:18] <haldor> stoft: slowly getting used to the way linux works. always seems to be a way to do it, just have to be patient
[12:21] <Blissex> haldor: the big issue is that there are user-level and admin-level tasks. Too many users try to do admin-level tasks that would not dare to do in MS Windows.
[12:23] <haldor> blissex: I dare anything in windows. that was the joy. break and fix. thats how I learn. and also how I am learning in linux. everything can be undone as long as you remember what it is you did so you can undo it. not worried about breakages, thats the fun of it all
[12:23] <Blissex> haldor: read manuals and books :-)
[12:24] <Smooph> haldor: get a live
[12:24] <ironfroggy> what do i need for easy use of a scanner?
[12:25] <user-land> blissex, who could i start with ?
[12:25] <Smooph> a scanner and a driver would be good for a start
[12:25] <ironfroggy> have both
[12:25] <Blissex> user-land: Google? :-)
[12:25] <Smooph> or wiki
[12:31] <stoft> anyone here a konqueror user, that knows how to "tab through" the links of a page?
[12:32] <ironfroggy> umm... hit tab?
[12:32] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: ping
[12:33] <MidMark> guys
[12:34] <MidMark> someone that has encountered k9copy bug?
[12:34] <MidMark> that produce >4,4 GB dvd?
[12:34] <Hawkwind> Not here.  I use it all day everyday and it works perfectly fine here
[12:34] <MidMark> 1.0.2?
[12:34] <stoft> doh. is there a way to make it more controlled, so I don't have to go through all the links to get to the one I want?
[12:35] <MidMark> Hawkwind: k9copy 1.0.2?
[12:36] <Hawkwind> MidMark: Yep
[12:37] <user-land> blissex, you talked as if you knew people, now it sounds like a game ?
[12:37] <user-land> hi Hawkwind :-)
[12:37] <MidMark> Hawkwind: this strange I've produces ONE dvd and it's bigger than 4,4 GB, also in the changelog it say it was fixed a size problem in 1.0.3
[12:38] <SimAtWork> my kubuntu box died
[12:38] <SimAtWork> so i moved the hd over to an diff box
[12:38] <SimAtWork> everything works except the network
[12:38] <SimAtWork> how can i get it to redect the network and set it up again?
[12:38] <Hawkwind> SimAtWork: kcontrol -> Network Settings
[12:38] <LinuxN00b> Hey guys, I need some help
[12:38] <SimAtWork> it doesn't see any network cards
[12:39] <SimAtWork> i tried using modprobe
[12:39] <SimAtWork> but to no avail
[12:40] <LinuxN00b> okay well, I've got this crappy computer that used to have Kubuntu on it, but then I took it off...Then yesterday I decided to reinstall it. So I manualy set up partitions and I hit "finish and write to disk" and It goes up to a random percent and locks up
[12:41] <LinuxN00b> I've used the Desktop and Alternitive ISO, same thing happened
[12:41] <LinuxN00b> and I burned 'em at 1X
[12:42] <SimAtWork> LinuxN00b: can you go to konsole and use dmesg
[12:42] <SimAtWork> see if ther is anything there
[12:42] <LinuxN00b> Kubuntu isnt even installed
[12:43] <LinuxN00b> It locks up when writing the partitions on install
[12:43] <LinuxN00b> Oh, and Kubuntu live doesnt work
[12:43] <LinuxN00b> I'm starting to think its the computer
[12:44] <LinuxN00b> argh, I g2g
[12:44] <h3sp4wn_> LinuxN00b: try running memtest86 over night
[12:44] <LinuxN00b> send anything to help to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:45] <Hawkwind> LOL
[12:45] <Hawkwind> Come in, aks a question then have to leave
[12:45] <Hawkwind> Not a great way to get help :P
[12:48] <diego_cl> is flash 7 the newest plugin for linux ?!?!
[12:49] <h3sp4wn_> diego_cl: Yes
[12:50] <diego_cl> is there a better way to run it than the default way?   i cant change the volume from youtube videos
[12:52] <intelikey> it's not in kde.   it's in xorg.    KRAPP!
[12:53] <diego_cl> intelikey: are you talking about flash ?
[12:53] <aegeanlinux> diego_cl: Flash 9 is comming at the end of the year.
[12:53] <diego_cl> ahh  good
[12:54] <aegeanlinux> (well, a beta anyways ;) )
[12:55] <intelikey> diego_cl no  the /root bug in X
[12:55] <aegeanlinux>  /root bug?
[12:56] <intelikey> yes X uses /root as a swap dir
[12:56] <intelikey> or tmp dir
[12:56] <intelikey> this is the first release that has done that.
[12:57] <intelikey> it changes the permissions of /root to world readable and writes it's tmp file in /root
[12:57] <aegeanlinux> dang.  I am starting to get restless lol
[12:59] <intelikey> also if you rm /root it makes a new one.  'with world readable perms.    and if you rm /root and ln -s /dev/null /root then kde/twm/*window manager*/  fails and aborts.
[01:00] <aegeanlinux> is this Xorg 7.1 ?
[01:00] <intelikey> so all the sockets and authority files have to be in /root/ and /root has to be world readabe.
[01:00] <diego_cl> which is the lightest distribution from linux?
[01:00] <h3sp4wn_> diego_cl: openwrt
[01:00] <intelikey> aegeanlinux what ever the latest dapper package is.
[01:00] <aegeanlinux> diego_cl:  dang small linux ;)
[01:01] <diego_cl> i find kubuntu as heavy as windows xp
[01:01] <h3sp4wn_> diego_cl: I am using edgy with enlightenment DR17 and it run's really fast
[01:01] <diego_cl> is edgy a distro?
[01:02] <aegeanlinux> intelikey:  7.0,
[01:02] <h3sp4wn_> diego_cl: Its the development branch of ubuntu
[01:02] <aegeanlinux> diego_cl: No, it's a codename
[01:02] <aegeanlinux> diego_cl: like "Longhorn"
[01:03] <diego_cl> ahh
[01:04] <intelikey> aegeanlinux yes.
[01:04] <intelikey> X Window System Version 7.0.0
[01:04] <intelikey> Release Date: 21 December 2005
[01:04] <intelikey> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.0
[01:04] <aegeanlinux> intelikey: I am working on compiling Xorg 7.1, but I have 7.0 now, and I don't have that issue
[01:04] <intelikey> aegeanlinux do you have 7.1 ?
[01:04] <intelikey> ah
[01:04] <aegeanlinux> Not yet, I have 7.0
[01:05] <intelikey> when you get 7.1 setup please test and see if it's using /root/ also,    we consider that a bug.
[01:05] <aegeanlinux> [tim:~] $ cd /root/
[01:05] <aegeanlinux> bash: cd: /root/: Permission denied
[01:06] <aegeanlinux> [tim:/] $ ls -la | grep 39\ root
[01:06] <aegeanlinux> drwxr-x---   32 root root  4096 2006-07-19 18:39 root
[01:08] <intelikey> should be   d--------- 32 root root 4096 `date`  root
[01:08] <brk3> hi, this is a pretty stupid question but i just installed kubuntu and was wondering if someone could tell me what package I need to install to let amarok play mp3s?
[01:08] <intelikey> !w32codecs
[01:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:09] <LinuxN00b> okay im back
[01:09] <LinuxN00b> I ran the Memtest for like 5 minutes, already like 500,000 errors
[01:09] <brk3> im stuck on dialup so cant really download the full codec package.. usually theres just a package such as libmad to install no?
[01:10] <LinuxN00b> thats not a good sign
[01:10] <brk3> wait i see: libxine-extracodecs
[01:10] <brk3> cheers
[01:10] <joshpi> bigtrouble777
[01:11] <joshpi> sorry
[01:11] <joshpi> wrong text box
[01:13] <ironfroggy> installed on a laptop, how can i enter sleep and hibernation modes?
[01:13] <LinuxN00b> okay well, I've got this crappy computer that used to have Kubuntu on it, but then I took it off...Then yesterday I decided to reinstall it. So I manualy set up partitions and I hit "finish and write to disk" and It goes up to a random percent and locks up
[01:14] <LinuxN00b> I've used the Desktop and Alternitive ISO, same thing happened and burned em at 1X
[01:14] <intelikey> brk3 you can dl the full codec package.   it's not that big.   and   dl one time then cp to disk.  save for future use.
[01:14] <Hawkwind> LinuxN00b: memtest needs to run for hours and hours.  12 - 16 hours if possible
[01:14] <intelikey> oh i missed the exit....
[01:14] <LinuxN00b> okay, but whats up with the 500,00 errors?!
[01:15] <LinuxN00b> *500,000 errors
[01:15] <ironfroggy> Hawkwind: seriously? i let it run for half an hour and it said it was around 10% done
[01:15] <Hawkwind> LinuxN00b: No idea.  Put them into http://pastebin.ca for us to see
[01:15] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: That won't tell you much.  The longer you can let it run, the better
[01:15] <intelikey> if it's already finding errors.  there is no need in running it any longer...
[01:15] <ironfroggy> Hawkwind: then whats the percentage for?
[01:15] <ironfroggy> i mean, what does it keep doing after hitting 100%?
[01:16] <Tm_T> next step
[01:16] <LinuxN00b> okay so there are a crap load of errors....no what?
[01:17] <LinuxN00b> *now what?
[01:17] <ironfroggy> anyway, has anyone here setting scanning in KDE?
[01:17] <ironfroggy> ive installed the drivers i need, but i cant figure out how to actually scan anything. ive got kooka open, but it doesnt seem to be aware of my scanner.
[01:17] <Tm_T> LinuxN00b: give the url to us please ;)
[01:17] <LinuxN00b> uhh for what?
[01:17] <ironfroggy> LinuxN00b: for the pastebin of the errors
[01:17] <Tm_T> oh my
[01:18] <LinuxN00b> yeah its not on this computer that im doing it
[01:18] <diego_cl> bye
[01:18] <ironfroggy> type them
[01:18] <intelikey> sware.   and k3b can't find any suitable writer....   what kind of crap is this ?
[01:18] <LinuxN00b> Hey, im really sorry for being a n00b, and i know when i am.....how do i type the errors?
[01:19] <ironfroggy> with the keyboard...
[01:19] <LinuxN00b> it just has "errors" and under them it says like "5000000"
[01:20] <intelikey> LinuxN00b i would assume 5000000  to be an address.
[01:20] <intelikey> ?
[01:20] <LinuxN00b> well it goes up
[01:20] <LinuxN00b> i stopped running it
[01:20] <LinuxN00b> but when i run it the number goes up
[01:21] <intelikey> it tests  0000001 0000002 0000003...  ?
[01:21] <ironfroggy> uh huh... well obviously you arent going to pastebin all 500,000 errors anyway.
[01:21] <intelikey> memory addressing
[01:22] <LinuxN00b> the number under "Errors" are the how many errors there are
[01:23] <LinuxN00b> oh, and when I go to the "configure
[01:23] <intelikey> so your memory puked out over half a million errors on the first pass....    and will that box boot at all ?
[01:23] <LinuxN00b> yeah
[01:23] <LinuxN00b> it boots fine
[01:24] <LinuxN00b> but when it go to "configure" and then "advanced options" it says "Chipset Not supported!"
[01:24] <Desh> Hi, I would like to recompile my kernel to take out mtrr. how wouldI do this?
[01:24] <||Trayer||>  I got UT2004 running, though I needed to run it in Sudo.  Now though, For some reason, It refuses to launch in sudo. Are there any other commands I could use?
[01:25] <intelikey> anyone on the team here ?
[01:25] <OOD> ||Trayer||:There's no reason for you to be running it as root
[01:26] <LinuxN00b> any answers to my question?
[01:26] <LinuxN00b> *problem?
[01:26] <||Trayer||>  OOD: Yes, there is actually.  Unless I run it in Sudo it gets a acess error and can't find the game engine.
[01:27] <||Trayer||>  And, the reason why I'm getting the error is because "trayer is not in the sudoers file.", and I'm required to run visudo, though, it says permission denied.
[01:28] <intelikey>  any clue why k3b would fail to find an scsi cd writer ?
[01:28] <intelikey> isn't sudo fun !!!
[01:28] <||Trayer||>  So my question, How can I allow visudo to run?
[01:29] <OOD> ||Trayer||: i had it running in normal user privelages without any sort of problem at all, did you install it to your home directory?
[01:29] <intelikey> trayer run it as root.    that means if you can't login as aggount that can run sudo then reboot to single user mode and fix it.
[01:29] <||Trayer||>  OOD: Nah, Installed to /usr/local/games/ut2004
[01:30] <OOD> ||Trayer||that could be why
[01:30] <||Trayer||>  Intelikey: How would I log into my root account to change my sudo to allow "trayer" to use it?
[01:30] <intelikey> even to fix permissions on /usr/local/games/* you need to be root
[01:31] <||Trayer||> !root
[01:31] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:31] <LinuxN00b> 1,300,000 errors so far...
[01:32] <LinuxN00b> 0 passed
[01:32] <intelikey> ||Trayer|| like i said.    if you don't have a root passowrd or you don't have an adminestrator account that you can login to then reboot.  start in single user mode and fix it.
[01:32] <||Trayer||>  Intelikey: How would one do that?
[01:32] <Desh> what kernel version would be best for an AMD64 running 32bit UBuntu.
[01:33] <intelikey> it would depend on the "one" i guess.
[01:34] <jhak88> hi there, how do I add more packages to the adept installer? My friend on ubuntu has like 11000 packages!!
[01:34] <||Trayer||> Re-Installing kubuntu and not effing it up it is!
[01:34] <jhak88> i just did an install
[01:34] <jhak88> there were no package options....?
[01:35] <aztun> jhak88: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:35] <intelikey> generally the three fingered salute will reboot.  and the boot menu most likely contains an option to boot to 1  if not just add   1  to the kernel line that the boot loader does have.        when you get root access  do the visudo and fix your sudoers file....
[01:35] <jhak88> ill look thanks aztun
[01:36] <LinuxN00b> will anyone here help me?! 1,600,000 errors!
[01:38] <ironfroggy> ok i got my scanner stuff configured (i thought) properly, and i opened kooka, which asked me if i wanted to use the scanner it found, and i selected it. only when it actually opened, its complaining there is no SANE installation. so how would it have found the scanner?
[01:39] <Hawkwind> LinuxN00b: It's obvious you have bad ram.  Replace it and move on
[01:40] <LinuxN00b> I dunno....I had kubuntu installed a month ago
[01:40] <LinuxN00b> i havnt done ANYTHING since
[01:40] <Hawkwind> LinuxN00b: Again, replace your RAM
[01:40] <LinuxN00b> okay..
[01:40] <Hawkwind> If memtest errors then that tells you what you need to do.  You could be way past this by now
[01:41] <LinuxN00b> huh?
[01:41] <Hawkwind> When it errors it means your RAM is bad.  If you had replaced it already you could be installing an OS
[01:41] <LinuxN00b> oh
[01:42] <LinuxN00b> How much does new RAM cost for a really cheap kind?
[01:42] <satafterh> how much ram you ahve
[01:42] <Kyral> Depends on capacity
[01:42] <Hawkwind> Depends on the type your system requires
[01:42] <Hawkwind> Doesn't matter how much you have
[01:42] <Hawkwind> You buy what your system requires
[01:43] <Kyral> I can get a stick of 512 MB PC3200 Corsair ValueSelect for 44 US
[01:43] <LinuxN00b> Its a crap computer, Ill take anything over 512
[01:43] <satafterh> it matter how many stick he has, he could take one out and try it, and i wasnt talking to you
[01:43] <Hawkwind> LinuxN00b: You have to know what KIND OF RAM IT TAKES
[01:43] <I_Died_Once> where can i find a copy of my boot log?
[01:43] <LinuxN00b> what takes? Sorry for being a n00b...
[01:43] <Hawkwind> LinuxN00b: There are hundreds of types of RAM.  You have to know what kind your PC takes
[01:44] <Hawkwind> You don't just buy RAM and it work all the same
[01:44] <LinuxN00b> so what types are there?
[01:44] <Hawkwind> LinuxN00b: Hundreds of types
[01:44] <Hawkwind> LinuxN00b: You need to pull the RAM from YOUR pc and see what kind it is
[01:44] <Tommy2k4> look on corsair.com it has a wizard to help u find out what ram u need
[01:44] <I_Died_Once> LinuxN00b: whats the make and model of your computer?
[01:44] <LinuxN00b> alright
[01:45] <satafterh> if you have two moduals take one out. also might try to set the defaults in the bios and try that. all so reseat the ram, you can also try cleaning the contacts with an eraser
[01:45] <BKaj> you can DL a small utility that Ids your hardware without physically having to pull the memory out
[01:45] <I_Died_Once> Where is the bootup log on Kubuntu?
[01:46] <LinuxN00b> Model: SE440BX2-ATX-PIII600
[01:46] <BKaj> just google hardware identifiers
[01:46] <LinuxN00b> okay
[01:47] <diego_cl> quien habla espaol??
[01:47] <LinuxN00b> yo
[01:48] <diego_cl> hola, sabes configurar el samba para compartir carpetas ?
[01:48] <BKaj> !espanol
[01:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about espanol - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:48] <LinuxN00b> no, perdona me
[01:48] <diego_cl> buuu   bueno
[01:49] <diego_cl> how can i share folders with samba without asking for password?
[01:50] <_rince_> re
[01:51] <abattoir> !es
[01:51] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:52] <diego_cl> thanks
[01:53] <abattoir> diego_cl: :)
[01:53] <diego_cl> whats the command to change the channel?
[01:53] <abattoir>  /join #kubuntu-es
[01:53] <abattoir> or just click on it
[01:53] <diego_cl> abattoir: thanks!
[01:53] <abattoir> del nada :P
[01:53] <Tommy2k4> how can i make it save session on logout and use it again when i login
[01:53] <diego_cl> abattoir: by the way... do you know how to share folders ?
[01:53] <Tommy2k4> i disabled it but want it back now
[01:54] <abattoir> diego_cl: right click on the folder -> Properties -> Sharing options(or something) ?
[01:54] <LinuxN00b> oh and I have one mor question: How did the RAM get so screwed?
[01:54] <diego_cl> abattoir: im shating a folder, but i cant see it trough windows, because my linux pc ask for autentication
[01:54] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: Kcontrol -> KDE Components -> Session Manager
[01:55] <abattoir> !samba
[01:55] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:55] <abattoir> diego_cl: ^^^ maybe that would help?
[01:55] <Tommy2k4> ty abattoir
[01:55] <abattoir> or rather Session management...
[01:55] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: np
[01:56] <LinuxN00b> So how did my ram get messed up?!
[01:58] <toma> because you where statical charged when inserting them. Or you touched the copper, or parts of the sun or it was bad memory to start with, or something else...
[01:59] <I_Died_Once> anyone know where I can find a copy of my boot-up log?
[01:59] <z00m> anyone got metasploit installed ?
[01:59] <z00m> trying to run it and keep getting this message
[01:59] <toma> I_Died_Once: try "dmesg"
[01:59] <z00m> .../usr/bin/env: ruby: No such file or directory
[01:59] <abattoir> z00m: install ruby
[02:00] <abattoir> !info ruby
[02:00] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[02:00] <z00m> abattoir i just tryed to install 1.9
[02:00] <z00m> it installed but still not workin
[02:00] <abattoir> z00m: well, even if you did, the path to the executable wasnt set
[02:01] <abattoir> any special reason you need 1.9 ?
[02:01] <z00m> how do i do that ?
[02:01] <abattoir> else i'll suggest installing from the repos
[02:01] <z00m> no i just chose that because it was the lastest
[02:02] <z00m> installing ruby1.8 now
[02:02] <abattoir> z00m: you installed a deb? or installed from a source package?
[02:02] <abattoir> ok, good :)
[02:02] <z00m> from adept manager
[02:02] <abattoir> remove the old one, if you can
[02:02] <z00m> z00m@64BitBox:~/framework-3.0-alpha-r3$ ./msfweb
[02:02] <z00m> /usr/bin/env: ruby: No such file or directory
[02:03] <abattoir> z00m: you installed ruby from adept ?
[02:03] <z00m> yes
[02:03] <toma> z00m: do a `which ruby`
[02:03] <abattoir> z00m: apt-cache policy ruby says it is installed ?
[02:03] <abattoir> 'apt-cahce policy ruby'
[02:04] <abattoir> toma, the ruby package ?
[02:04] <abattoir> !info ruby
[02:04] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[02:04] <abattoir> toma: that's not the right package?
[02:04] <z00m> ruby:
[02:04] <z00m>   Installed: (none)
[02:04] <z00m>   Candidate: 1.8.2-1
[02:04] <z00m>   Version table:
[02:04] <z00m>      1.8.2-1 0
[02:04] <z00m>         500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[02:04] <toma> abattoir: never mind
[02:05] <z00m> is that correct ?
[02:05] <z00m> Installed: (none)
[02:05] <toma> nope
[02:05] <abattoir> !info ruby1.8
[02:05] <ubotu> ruby1.8: Interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby 1.8. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.8.4-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 183 kB, installed size 268 kB
[02:05] <abattoir> z00m: you have that installed? ^^^^
[02:06] <toma> what happens with a apt-cache info ruby1.8
[02:06] <toma> what happens with a apt-cache policy ruby1.8
[02:07] <z00m> i have ruby1.8
[02:07] <z00m> installed in adept
[02:07] <z00m> also euby1.8dev
[02:07] <z00m> r^
[02:07] <toma> paste the output of:  apt-cache policy ruby1.8
[02:07] <abattoir> z00m: try executing 'ruby' in the cli
[02:08] <z00m> z00m@64BitBox:~/framework-3.0-alpha-r3$ ruby
[02:08] <z00m> bash: ruby: command not found
[02:08] <z00m> ruby1.8:
[02:08] <z00m>   Installed: 1.8.4-1ubuntu1
[02:08] <z00m>   Candidate: 1.8.4-1ubuntu1
[02:08] <z00m>   Version table:
[02:08] <z00m>  *** 1.8.4-1ubuntu1 0
[02:08] <z00m>         500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[02:08] <z00m>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[02:09] <z00m> strange hey
[02:09] <z00m> :/
[02:09] <toma> z00m: install the ruby package
[02:09] <toma> without addition
[02:09] <abattoir> z00m: try executing 'ruby1.8'
[02:10] <toma> abattoir: that will work...
[02:10] <toma> just the symlink missing
[02:10] <abattoir> toma: well, then he can make that :)
[02:10] <z00m> z00m@64BitBox:~/framework-3.0-alpha-r3$ ruby1.8
[02:10] <abattoir> press ctrl+c
[02:10] <abattoir> you get ruby interrupted?
[02:11] <toma> abattoir: installing ruby package is cleaner
[02:11] <z00m> ruby1.8: Interrupt
[02:11] <abattoir> toma: you mean reinstalling?
[02:11] <abattoir> ruby depends on ruby1.8
[02:11] <abattoir> he  has both installed
[02:11] <toma> abattoir: oki
[02:12] <abattoir> z00m: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall ruby'
[02:12] <z00m> ok its working now
[02:12] <z00m> i just did that apt-get install ruby
[02:12] <abattoir> z00m: so it wasnt installed?
[02:12] <z00m> yeah i did it in adept manager
[02:12] <toma> did you remove 1.9 after installing 1.8?
[02:13] <z00m> but did not work still but after doing apt-get it did
[02:13] <z00m> (Reading database ... 85887 files and directories currently installed.)
[02:13] <z00m> Unpacking ruby (from .../archives/ruby_1.8.2-1_all.deb) ...
[02:13] <z00m> Setting up ruby (1.8.2-1) ...
[02:14] <z00m> this may give you more info
[02:14] <z00m> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:14] <z00m> Need to get 19.0kB of archives.
[02:14] <z00m> After unpacking 98.3kB of additional disk space will be used.
[02:14] <z00m> Get: 1 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main ruby 1.8.2-1 [19.0kB]
[02:14] <z00m> Fetched 19.0kB in 0s (44.6kB/s)
[02:14] <z00m> Selecting previously deselected package ruby.
[02:14] <z00m> (Reading database ... 85887 files and directories currently installed.)
[02:14] <z00m> Unpacking ruby (from .../archives/ruby_1.8.2-1_all.deb) ...
[02:14] <z00m> Setting up ruby (1.8.2-1) ...
[02:14] <abattoir> z00m: did you remove 1.9 while or installing from adept
[02:14] <abattoir> z00m: please dont flood the channel :)
[02:14] <z00m> yes i did
[02:15] <abattoir> ok, toma was right, you probably removed 1.9 after 1.8 had created the symlink
[02:15] <abattoir> so, it removed the link
[02:15] <z00m> still got probles though
[02:15] <z00m> problems
[02:15] <z00m> ./lib/rex/proto/smb/crypt.rb:1:in `require': no such file to load -- openssl (LoadError)
[02:15] <z00m>         from ./lib/rex/proto/smb/crypt.rb:1
[02:15] <z00m>         from ./lib/rex/proto/smb.rb:4
[02:15] <z00m>         from ./lib/rex/proto.rb:2
[02:15] <z00m>         from ./lib/rex.rb:44
[02:15] <z00m>         from ./msfweb:9
[02:16] <z00m> what could that be, sorry about all the pasting
[02:16] <z00m> need openssl >
[02:17] <abattoir> z00m: i think that is a problem on the program's side
[02:17] <z00m> ?
[02:17] <abattoir> which one is it btw
[02:17] <abattoir> aah, yes, my mistake
[02:17] <abattoir> install all the dependencies for the package...
[02:17] <abattoir> which program is this/
[02:17] <abattoir> ?
[02:17] <z00m> is it not avalible from apt-get
[02:18] <z00m> metasploitframework-3.0-alpha-r3
[02:18] <abattoir> z00m: that doesnt matter, the project page would clearly list the dependencies
[02:18] <abattoir> make sure you install them from adept
[02:18] <z00m> nothing comes up for metasploit
[02:18] <abattoir> not in adept....
[02:19] <abattoir> where did you get the file from?
[02:19] <z00m> there site
[02:19] <abattoir> give me the site url
[02:19] <z00m> ok
[02:19] <z00m> http://www.metasploit.com/
[02:21] <abattoir> z00m: hmm, only ruby1.8 is supported btw..
[02:22] <abattoir> does the archive have a readme file?
[02:23] <abattoir> maybe dependencies are stated there
[02:23] <abattoir> or an INSTALL file maybe?
[02:23] <z00m> ill take a look
[02:24] <z00m> no nothing there
[02:24] <z00m> there is a readme but no dependencies
[02:25] <abattoir> what does it say? briefly/
[02:25] <abattoir> ?
[02:26] <abattoir> try installing libopenssl-ruby1.8
[02:26] <abattoir> !info libopenssl-ruby1.8
[02:26] <ubotu> libopenssl-ruby1.8: OpenSSL interface for Ruby 1.8. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.8.4-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 251 kB, installed size 552 kB
[02:26] <abattoir> and even openssl
[02:26] <abattoir> that's all i can think of
[02:29] <LinuxFTW> Hello! I was wondering how I can add amaroK support for MP3s.  I am aware I require libxine extra codecs, though, They are not appearing in adept!  I have multiverse and universe enabled.  Does anyone have an alternative download link, Or method I can obtain these?
[02:29] <LinuxFTW> !ati
[02:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:29] <z00m> libopenssl-ruby1.8 did the trick thanks alot
[02:29] <abattoir> cool :)
[02:30] <abattoir> LinuxFTW: which architecture?
[02:30] <abattoir> LinuxFTW: i'd still recommend making sure you have universe and multiverse 'properly enabled' though...
[02:31] <LinuxFTW>  abattoir: I have enabled them in the "Adept" > "View"  management menu.
[02:32] <abattoir> LinuxFTW: you must understand that it is difficult to install it w/o the help of a pkg mgmt. software because of dependencies
[02:32] <abattoir> LinuxFTW: make sure you have enabled it in the 'dapper' line rather than 'dapper/backports'
[02:32] <LinuxFTW>  abattoir: I'll double check that now
[02:33] <abattoir> LinuxFTW: or could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file/
[02:33] <abattoir> *dapper-backports rather
[02:35] <LinuxFTW> !pastebin
[02:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:36] <LinuxFTW>  abattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18553 is the pastebin of my sources.list, I left all the comments in just so I don't get confused = \.
[02:36] <Muz_> Hey guys, this may sound strange, but I can't get the actual Install item on the desktop to run without it spitting out errors
[02:37] <Muz_> (There's no internet connection on the machine atm, hence why I can't send a bug report from it)
[02:37] <abattoir> LinuxFTW: you have universe enabled, but not multiverse
[02:38] <abattoir> LinuxFTW: you can add it in the first line itself if you want
[02:38] <LinuxFTW>  abattoir: Now I feel like a moron = \.  I coulda sworn I double checked.  Thanks mate, I just gotta wait to my video drivers are done installing then I'll test it
[02:38] <abattoir> LinuxFTW: np, its a common mistake to enable multiverse in dapper-backports :)
[02:39] <abattoir> Muz_: you mean the Installer in the live cd ?
[02:39] <Muz_> abattoir, yes
[02:40] <abattoir> Muz_: at what stage does the error occur?
[02:40] <Muz_> I click on it to get it to run, and immediately after a window forms, it gives me an error
[02:41] <abattoir> Muz_: is there no way to post the file /var/log/syslog/installer from that computer on pastebin?
[02:41] <Muz_> There's no internet connection on the machine
[02:41] <abattoir> or rather /var/log/installer/syslog
[02:41] <abattoir> Muz_: you cant copy it w/ a floppy/ flash drive?
[02:41] <Muz_> My laptop lacks a floppy drive
[02:42] <abattoir> Muz_: a USB flash drive ?
[02:42] <Muz_> I've got none
[02:42] <abattoir> hmmm, so there is no way at all?
[02:42] <Muz_> Not that I can think of
[02:42] <pierreth> hello
[02:43] <abattoir> ok.. so you just click it, and it says "Installer Crashed" ?
[02:43] <abattoir> hello pierreth :)
[02:43] <Muz_> Yup
[02:43] <pierreth> i made it!
[02:43] <abattoir> pierreth: awesome :)
[02:43] <abattoir> pierreth: how do you like kubuntu.... on a mac? :P
[02:43] <Muz_> It appears to be a number of problems with /user/lib/python2.4/site-packages/debconf.py
[02:43] <abattoir> Muz_: i'm sorry, i cant say much w/o looking at the error
[02:43] <Muz_> Amongst other things
[02:43] <Muz_> Hmmm
[02:43] <LinuxFTW> Alright, to makesure I don't make another stupid mistake.  The multiverse is "deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse" (I am in canada, hence the ca)
[02:44] <pierreth> i feel more free!
[02:44] <abattoir> Muz_: well, that's just the traceback
[02:44] <Muz_> Is there a way to install it on the terminal?
[02:44] <abattoir> LinuxFTW: you can just add multiverse next to main restricted
[02:44] <abattoir> in the same line
[02:44] <abattoir> no need to add a new one
[02:44] <pierreth> abattoir: i have a lot to do before it feels like i want but i am going to make it my wat
[02:45] <pierreth> abattioir:my way
[02:45] <ryanakca> ummm... why is half of konversation french and the other half english? like in the settings... and the output of /whois... and things under Windows (toolbar)... like I understand french and all.. but its just weird to have both in the same window/program
[02:45] <ryanakca> and I haven't installed french translations of anything...
[02:45] <abattoir> LinuxFTW: more like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18555
[02:45] <ryanakca> hmmm
[02:45] <pierreth> abattoir: may be you can help make it the way i want?
[02:45] <ubuntu_> &NICK AMARU
[02:46] <ubuntu_> was yur h;lle
[02:46] <abattoir> Muz_: you'd have to download the alternate cd
[02:46] <abattoir> pierreth: if i can, sure
[02:46] <LinuxFTW>  abattoir: I'll just use that exact entry then?
[02:46] <Muz_> abattoir, got a link handy?
[02:46] <abattoir> LinuxFTW: what do you mean?
[02:46] <abattoir> Muz_: one sec
[02:46] <pierreth> abattoir: you would my mouse to scrool, where should i go?
[02:46] <Muz_> Sure
[02:47] <LinuxFTW>  abattoir: I'll just copy that and put it over my current sources.list
[02:47] <abattoir> pierreth: what mouse? the mac soapbar mouse? or whatever it is called... :P ?
[02:47] <abattoir> LinuxFTW: you can do that :)
[02:48] <abattoir> Muz_: any mirror is ok? where are you?
[02:48] <centyx> hrm.
[02:48] <Muz_> UK
[02:48] <pierreth> abattoir: i have trackball from logitech
[02:48] <centyx> my dvd playback has become choppy all of a sudden
[02:48] <centyx> wonder why...
[02:48] <patrick_> How can i tell what kernel version my fglrx drivers are compiled for?
[02:48] <abattoir> Muz_: so a eu mirror is ok?
[02:48] <Muz_> It's fine with me :)
[02:48] <abattoir> i think i got a uk... wait
[02:49] <abattoir> Muz_: and its an i386 right?
[02:49] <Muz_> Correct
[02:49] <abattoir> pierreth: one sec
[02:49] <abattoir> Muz_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso
[02:50] <Muz_> Ace, thanks a lot
[02:50] <LinuxFTW>  abattoir: I have it set on my dapper back ports to "main restricted universe multiverse", In Adept there still is no find on the xine extra codecs/libs (I did a search for xine) and my "add remove programs" refuses to start.   I believe a reboot is in order.  Be back in 2
[02:50] <abattoir> !dma > centyx
[02:50] <abattoir> pierreth: so it doesnt work out of the box huh?
[02:51] <abattoir> pierreth: only the scrolling? have you tried booting w/ the mouse connected?
[02:51] <pierreth> abattoir: almost... :-)
[02:51] <abattoir> hmmm... where did he go...
[02:51] <pierreth> abattoir: it is all time connected
[02:51] <abattoir> pierreth: huh?
[02:51] <abattoir> oh ok... got it
[02:51] <pierreth> abattoir: i don't have a wheel
[02:52] <ryanakca> ummm... why is half of konversation french and the other half english? like in the settings... and the output of /whois... and things under Windows (toolbar)... like I understand french and all.. but its just weird to have both in the same window/program. and no, I have not installed any french translations of anything...
[02:52] <abattoir> pierreth: then what doesnt work... i though you said scrolling doesn work
[02:52] <pierreth> abattoir: i just have buttons instead that i was used to use to scrool
[02:52] <abattoir> ryanakca: do you have french localisations installed ?
[02:52] <ryanakca> abattoir: how do I check...
[02:52] <patrick_> How can i tell what kernel version my fglrx drivers are compiled for?
[02:52] <pierreth> abattoir: i did? i forgot the negate
[02:53] <abattoir> pierreth: then you might need to map those buttons in xorg.conf... wait a sec
[02:53] <abattoir> pierreth: have a model no.?
[02:53] <abattoir> ryanakca: in adept?
[02:53] <nnn0> if you don't understand french, and haven't installed french - how do you know it's french ? :D
[02:53] <pierreth> abattoir: marble mouse usb
[02:54] <ryanakca> nnn0: I said I understood french... /whois me.. I'm in the ubuntu french channel :P
[02:54] <nnn0> ah :)
[02:54] <nnn0> hehe
[02:54] <nnn0> bad joke
[02:55] <ryanakca> eh hunh...
[02:55] <abattoir> pierreth: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77005.html look at Buffalo Soldier's post
[02:55] <LinuxFTW>  abattoir: Alright, I am finding under "Add Remove programs" Xine extra plugins, though, it is appearing in gray and un-selectable.  Should I find another mirror on the web for this file?
[02:55] <nnn0> :o
[02:55] <pierreth> abattoir: ok
[02:55] <ryanakca> abattoir: hmmm... I guess I have installed fr... language-pack-kde-fr = installed
[02:55] <abattoir> LinuxFTW: did you copy paste from what i posted?
[02:56] <abattoir> ryanakca: well, that's what is messing around... is my guess
[02:56] <ryanakca> abattoir: but why are both showing up...
[02:56] <LinuxFTW> : Nope, I just added the multiverse to backports.  I will try again now with that exact sources list
[02:56] <LinuxFTW> !pastebin
[02:56] <ryanakca> abattoir: it should be one... or the other... I'll look in kcontrol for settings
[02:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:56] <abattoir> ryanakca: i have no clue... have never used any other language in a computer other than english :)
[02:56] <abattoir> ryanakca: could be a but too
[02:56] <jhak88> Hello, um... I'm trying to get as many video codecs as possible for my VLC
[02:57] <abattoir> LinuxFTW:  i said that is a mistake...
[02:57] <jhak88> .mkv, .vod, (all avi and mpeg)
[02:57] <slayer> Kubuntu!
[02:57] <abattoir> LinuxFTW: you can add it to backports, but the point is to add it to dapper not dapper-backports
[02:57] <LinuxFTW>  abattoir: *Sorry main
[02:57] <jhak88> Like VLC on windows, I want that thing to play every thing
[02:57] <gemidjy> how can I install debs from /var/cache/apt/archive that are on my computer on other computer (using apt-get) ? Any way to tell apt-get that the files are downloaded?
[02:57] <abattoir> LinuxFTW: read properly :P
[02:57] <abattoir> jhak88: what about vlc... for linux :P
[02:57] <patrick_> How can i tell what kernel version my fglrx drivers are compiled for?
[02:57] <LinuxFTW>  abattoir: Read properly, just didn't spell properlly = \.  Already tired
[02:58] <pierreth> abattoir: /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[02:58] <abattoir> indeed
[02:58] <jhak88> abattoir: VLC for Kubuntu
[02:58] <abattoir> LinuxFTW: you tried?
[02:58] <abattoir> pierreth: yes
[02:58] <abattoir> jhak88: yes
[02:58] <jhak88> abattoir: I want VLC to play every single media formats
[02:58] <pierreth> abattoir: i prefer to make change only for my user account, is it possible?
[02:58] <abattoir> jhak88: vlc for linux you can download from their site
[02:58] <abattoir> pierreth: i dont think so
[02:59] <abattoir> jhak88: i'm not sure if it is in the repos
[02:59] <pierreth> abattoir: ok
[02:59] <abattoir> !info vlc
[02:59] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[02:59] <abattoir> jhak88: ^^^^
[02:59] <ryanakca> abattoir: I think it's a bug... look in kcontrol -> Regional & Accessibility -> Country/Region & Language.... the languages box says: "KDE programs will be displayed in the first available language in this list. If none of the languages are available, US English will be used."  1) British English, 2) French, 3) US English... so it should be showing up in British english... but it only is partially...
[02:59] <sotired> hello all
[02:59] <jhak88> abattoir: yeah it was in adept
[02:59] <abattoir> enable universe and you are good to go
[02:59] <sotired> how can i watch .asx strems?
[02:59] <abattoir> !universe
[02:59] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:00] <sotired> ive tried a bunch fo stuff and i cant get it to work. im trying to watch adult swim fix
[03:00] <abattoir> ryanakca: as i said, i have not experience w/ multilingual desktop computing, ask in -fr, since you are already there, if you think its a bug, file one :)
[03:00] <sotired> oooh...kofi annan is on larry king
[03:01] <sotired> he is as reggae superstar
[03:01] <jhak88> abattoir: Is there place to download more codecs for VLC?
[03:01] <ryanakca> abattoir: I'll file a bug :)
[03:02] <jhak88> abattoir: like .mkv, .vob, (all avi and mpeg) .ogg
[03:02] <abattoir> jhak88: doesnt it come with everything built-in?
[03:02] <centyx> silly me, i hadn't installed the matching linux-restricted-modules for my updated kernel
[03:02] <abattoir> jhak88: i dont know, check their site
[03:02] <centyx> so i was missing fglrx
[03:02] <jhak88> abattoir: I'll be right back
[03:02] <pierreth> abattoir: vi does not want to write the file
[03:02] <abattoir> pierreth: try 'sudo kate'
[03:03] <abattoir> pierreth: then open the file manually
[03:03] <LinuxFTW>  abattoir: I just did a search on the add remove programs, It is installing and downloading now.  Thanks for your patience ^^; I'm not the most linux savvy person there is.
[03:04] <patrick_> How can i tell what kernel version my fglrx drivers are compiled for?
[03:04] <abattoir> LinuxFTW: everyone has a learning curve... you only have to be patient during the period. :)
[03:05] <abattoir> LinuxFTW: ... then its fun all the way ;)
[03:07] <sotired> is anyone here able to watch .asx streams in firefox?
[03:07] <abattoir> which codec? wmv ?
[03:07] <sotired> i believe so
[03:07] <sotired> i can play wmv files
[03:07] <Tsed> I think asx streams are generally wmv.
[03:07] <sotired> im trying to watch stuff at adultswimfix.com
[03:08] <sotired> its no emergency...just something iwould like to have the ability to do :)
[03:08] <patrick_> How can i tell what kernel version my fglrx drivers are compiled for?
[03:08] <abattoir> sotired: heh
[03:08] <pierreth> abattoir: why vi was unable to open the file?
[03:08] <jhak88> hi again, I got some codecs, but the video isn't showing up, is there any known fix for this?
[03:08] <Tsed> sotired: I'm checking if my install plays them...
[03:08] <jhak88> (VLC)
[03:08] <sotired> thanks Tsed
[03:08] <abattoir> pierreth: you need 'root' permission to open the file, so try 'sudo vi'
[03:09] <abattoir> jhak88: i'd suggest looking at the documentation in the vlc site
[03:09] <pierreth> abattoir: this is what i did
[03:09] <abattoir> pierreth: and what did it say?
[03:10] <pierreth> abattoir: vi was able to open a file, a empty file. but was unable to write
[03:10] <Tsed> sotired: mplayer-plugin appears to be playing it fine here.
[03:10] <LinuxFTW>  Well, I'm logging off.  Thanks for all the help abattoir, I'm listening to music right now : ).   In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.17-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 421 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[03:12] <pierreth> abattoir: i guess i misstyped :-)
[03:12] <abattoir> pierreth: :)
[03:12] <sotired> ill try it now thanks you ubotu and Tsed
[03:12] <Tsed> No prob.
[03:12] <pierreth> abattoir: now i have to logout to make the change effective?
[03:12] <eva_> I have a problem with the sond card and my TV card. Sometimes the TV card is configured as first soundcard and then I can't adjust the sound properly.
[03:12] <abattoir> pierreth: you saved the file right?
[03:12] <abattoir> pierreth: yes, log out and log back in
[03:12] <pierreth> abattoir: of course!
[03:13] <abattoir> pierreth: or rather restart x
[03:13] <eva_> Can someone please explain me how to fix which is soundcard 0 and which is soundcard 1?
[03:13] <pierreth> abattoir: can i avoid typing your name all the time?
[03:13] <abattoir> pierreth: make sure you close all open applications, press 'ctrl +'alt'+F1
[03:13] <sotired> it worked thanks everyone
[03:13] <abattoir> pierreth: just press tab, my name might come up
[03:13] <pierreth> abattoir: ok!
[03:14] <abattoir> pierreth: otherwise, its difficult to find who is talking with who :)
[03:14] <pierreth> abattoir: ok, i try it now!
[03:14] <abattoir> sure
[03:22] <pierreth> abattoir: what do you did to me?
[03:23] <abattoir> pierreth: huh?
[03:23] <pierreth> abattoir: i was stuck after ctrl-alt-f1
[03:23] <pierreth> abattoir: these keys are dangerous
[03:23] <abattoir> pierreth: i said F1..? oops sorry, meant Backspave
[03:23] <abattoir> *Backspace
[03:23] <abattoir> that's what happens when you help 5 ppl at a time :(
[03:23] <pierreth> abattoir: what i did?
[03:24] <abattoir> i'm really sorry
[03:24] <abattoir> pierreth: you switched to a virtual terminal
[03:24] <abattoir> pierreth: try it again ;)
[03:24] <abattoir> you can use ctrl+alt+F7 to get back :)
[03:24] <pierreth> abattoir: i did not know!
[03:25] <pierreth> what is alt-opt-backspace?
[03:25] <abattoir> pierreth: again, sorry, i meant backspace... was distracted
[03:25] <abattoir> pierreth: you mean ctrl+alt+bs ?
[03:25] <pierreth> abattoir: it is ok :-)
[03:25] <abattoir> pierreth: it restarts your X server
[03:25] <pierreth> abattoir: i am confuse whit the keys of the mac
[03:25] <abattoir> pierreth: i was thinking of the same
[03:25] <abattoir> you dont have alt right?
[03:26] <pierreth> abattoir: it is dangerous too
[03:26] <pierreth> abattoir: we have opt intead
[03:26] <abattoir> pierreth: dangerous ?
[03:26] <abattoir> pierreth: what's dangerous?
[03:26] <pierreth> abattoir: i mean it kills everything
[03:26] <Dasnipa`> lol some packages are so strange... like "mencal"
[03:26] <ben__> if i ctrl+alt+F1 i just get a blank screen, not a terminal
[03:26] <abattoir> pierreth: i warned you, close all open apps...
[03:27] <abattoir> ben__: it gives me virtual terminal into which you should login.....
[03:27] <pierreth> abattoir: i tought that the shortcut was going to do that
[03:27] <abattoir>  <abattoir> pierreth: make sure you close all open applications, press 'ctrl +'alt'+F1
[03:27] <ben__> abattoir: yeah i know but i don't get a log in terminal i just get a blank screen
[03:28] <pierreth> abattoir: it is not working
[03:28] <abattoir> ben__: hmmm... i dont know... maybe they werent initiated...
[03:28] <abattoir> pierreth: the mouse?
[03:28] <pierreth> abattoir: hep
[03:28] <abattoir> pierreth: what is not working?
[03:28] <pierreth> abattoir: it does not scrool
[03:28] <abattoir> pierreth: i have no other idea... the guy there says it works...
[03:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> What's not working?
[03:29] <pierreth> abattoir: is it because i use a usb hub?
[03:29] <abattoir> pierreth: another guy says that too
[03:29] <abattoir> pierreth: i dont think so
[03:29] <pierreth> CheeseBurgerMan: hello
[03:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> Howdy
[03:29] <abattoir> pierreth: you did the same exact thing that guy said?
[03:30] <pierreth> CheeseBurgerMan: i mouse does not scrool
[03:30] <pierreth> abattoir: no, i added the line that were not already in my file
[03:30] <abattoir> pierreth: or you could use xev and see if the nos. he states match yours
[03:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm, I think I'll have to pass on that one. :(
[03:30] <abattoir> pierreth: paste it on pastebin
[03:31] <pierreth> abattoir: xev is a tool?
[03:31] <abattoir> pierreth: yes, its a command line utility w/ a graphical interface...
[03:31] <abattoir> your movements in the graphical interface are printed in the cli
[03:32] <abattoir> pierreth: could you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[03:32] <pierreth> abattoir: it does nothing when i press the buttons to scrool
[03:33] <abattoir> pierreth: could you please paste your xorg.conf?
[03:33] <pierreth> abattoir: yes
[03:33] <abattoir> pierreth: what does nothing? xev ?
[03:34] <pierreth> abattoir: xev
[03:34] <abattoir> pierreth: hmm, that sounds weird, you sure the buttons work?
[03:34] <abattoir> because if they emit a signal, xev should pick it up
[03:34] <abattoir> afaik
[03:35] <pierreth> abattoir: i am sorry but because i was on the cd, i was not able to bookmark, can you again give me the url for pasting
[03:35] <pierreth> abattoir: the buttons works for the mac
[03:35] <abattoir> !pastebin
[03:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:35] <abattoir> pierreth: then xev should show some info for the buttons
[03:36] <Tsed> ben__: re: the blank terminal.  I had the same issue for awhile.  IIRC, disabling the splash gets them back... I think I may have played with framebuffer resolutions afterwards as well.
[03:36] <Tsed> ben__: Other than that, though, I don't know *what* causes that.  I've seen it a few times. :/
[03:37] <abattoir> pierreth: xev gives no output at all ?
[03:37] <abattoir> pierreth: you are running the command from konsole right?
[03:38] <pierreth> abattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18557
[03:39] <pierreth> abattoir: xev gives output for my mouse moves but not for the buttons that i press
[03:40] <ironfroggy> are there any tools available to help me sync and share configuration settings between kubuntu boxes?
[03:40] <ironfroggy> for example, id like to share my kopete account settings.
[03:42] <abattoir> pierreth: you havent copied stuff from that guy's post?
[03:42] <abattoir> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18559
[03:43] <abattoir> this should work... try it out
[03:43] <pierreth> abattoir: may be it is because the ctrl-alt-F1 stuff :-)
[03:43] <abattoir> pierreth: bleh...
[03:44] <abattoir> pierreth: blame me... ;)
[03:44] <pierreth> abattoir: could you give the url again? :-)
[03:44] <noiesmo> I got a laptop everytime I reboot it it wants root password for maintenance or Control-D but control-D does not work how can i stop it wanting to do this when ever I reboot
[03:44] <abattoir> ok... anyways, if X gets borked and doesnt startup....<- this shouldnt happen, but still if it does, run 'sudo dexconf'
[03:44] <abattoir> pierreth: which one?
[03:45] <pierreth> abattoir: the one for the mouse
[03:45] <abattoir> to that guy's post?
[03:45] <pierreth> abattoir: yes
[03:45] <abattoir> pierreth: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77005.html Buffalo Soldier
[03:46] <pierreth> abattoir: the site is now down
[03:47] <abattoir> "The forums will be back shortly. We are giving the database some love.."
[03:47] <abattoir> indeed
[03:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> That's a rather disturbing thought, but I think we should leave it at that. ;)
[03:48] <pierreth> abattoir: how can i add a keyboard?
[03:48] <abattoir> CheeseBurgerMan: all these geek developers :P
[03:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol :D
[03:48] <abattoir> pierreth: its already added...
[03:48] <abattoir> pierreth: what do you exactly mean?
[03:49] <pierreth> abattoir: i want a canadian csa layout
[03:50] <abattoir> pierreth: aah, ok, Kcontrol -> Regional and Accessibility -> Keyboard Layout
[03:50] <pierreth> abattoir: it is not there
[03:50] <abattoir> mac keyboards come w/ canadian layouts? :S
[03:51] <pierreth> abattoir: whit the csa layout in canada
[03:51] <pierreth> abattoir: appple takes care :-)
[03:51] <abattoir> pierreth: i have no idea what csa is... but there is an entry w/ a Canadian flag in mine
[03:52] <pierreth> abattoir: yes this a canadian layout, this is not the csa canadian layout
[03:52] <abattoir> pierreth: oh, then i have no clue
[03:52] <Tommy2k4> running 'make' completely froze my pc :S
[03:52] <pierreth> abattoir: what? you don't know everything? ;-)
[03:52] <abattoir> pierreth: hehe, lol
[03:53] <abattoir> that's what's called 'pinching one's ego'
[03:53] <abattoir> my friends do it all the time to take adv. of me :P
[03:53] <abattoir> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-67354.html
[03:54] <abattoir> look at it when it comes back up
[03:54] <BKaj> csa = canadian standards association sorta like your UL
[03:54] <abattoir> or i'll get a cached version, wait
[03:54] <abattoir> BKaj: *my* UL ?
[03:54] <abattoir> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:Z3dV5WpZf50J:ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-67354.html+ubuntu+csa+canadian+keyboard+layout&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1
[03:54] <BKaj> US=UL
[03:55] <abattoir> BKaj: well, what if i was not *from* the US? :P
[03:55] <BKaj> then it's something else :)
[03:55] <abattoir> BKaj: hehe
[03:56] <BKaj> why there's a canadian KB layout beats me ..unless it's the french one meant for french speakers
[03:56] <abattoir> pierreth: ca(fr) is what you are looking at, i guess
[03:57] <abattoir> BKaj: French keyboard is in azerty
[03:57] <abattoir> Canadian french is qwerty
[03:57] <BKaj> yup that's the quebec and french-canadian layout
[03:57] <abattoir> heh, that's what that page^^^^^^ thought me :P
I don't understand why most people want to stick with the old horrible legacy French Canadian keyboard. It's less efficient! </quote>
[03:58] <abattoir> :P
[03:59] <BKaj> where are you abattoir?
[03:59] <abattoir> BKaj: in the Bat-Cave :P
[03:59] <abattoir> dont ask me where that is :P
[04:00] <abattoir> no-one knows
[04:00] <BKaj> come now
[04:00] <Ertain> Does anyone know about Direct Connect, that file-sharing thing?
[04:00] <BKaj> yeah it sucks
[04:00] <BKaj> clunky as hell
[04:01] <BKaj> In my experience
[04:01] <abattoir> BKaj: you are asking me because of the <quote></quote> ?
[04:01] <abattoir> that was lifted right from the forum page that i posted
[04:01] <abattoir> not my opinion in any way...
[04:02] <pierreth> abattoir: no it is not, i know! :-) i am using it now
[04:02] <abattoir> as i told someone before, i have never used any other language other than english on the desktop, and any other keyboard other than us
[04:02] <abattoir> pierreth: that was for the 'inefficient' comment?
[04:02] <abattoir> pierreth: i was just playing w/ you guys ;)
[04:03] <BKaj> no just nosey abattoir
[04:03] <Ertain> I've typed in Japanese.  Hard to get it to work in Linux.  Even when I get it to work in Kubuntu, whenever I started a program, it would start the input method program (in my case, Skim).
[04:03] <abattoir> BKaj: oh, hehe, than Bat-cave will do :)
[04:03] <abattoir> Ertain: that reminds me, i should get skim Japanese support
[04:04] <abattoir> Ertain: how is kanji support in scim/skim?
[04:05] <Ertain> abattoir: Eh, it's pretty good.  You can switch between it and kana with simple button combinations.  Just start typing and kana will  pop up, along with a list of kanji.  If you type enough, it'll just type in the first kanji on the list.
[04:06] <abattoir> Ertain: nice, i have seen only screenies, badly wanted to try it....
[04:06] <abattoir> Ertain: thanks for the info :)
[04:06] <BKaj> I did a traceroute on your IP abattoir, but I won't reveal yer whereabouts unless you give permission :)
[04:06] <Ertain> abattoir: I've typed out pages of comic translations in Kword with Skim.
[04:07] <abattoir> pierreth: not trying ?
[04:07] <pierreth> abattoir: i am lookingin
[04:07] <abattoir> BKaj: how do you know that i am not using a proxy?
[04:07] <abattoir> BKaj: do you think i'll reveal the location of the bat-cave that easily?
[04:07] <BKaj> well , some how I doubt that
[04:08] <abattoir> BKaj: well, see my IP address the next time, will be from an entirely different continent...
[04:08] <abattoir> if you have access to logs, see my IP from previous sessions
[04:08] <abattoir> see if they all matchup :)
[04:08] <BKaj> I don't care if ppl know where I live ...I'm proud to be a Canadian ! :)
[04:09] <abattoir> BKaj: you mean to say Bruce Wayne was not proud being an American? ;)
[04:09] <BKaj> who gives  sh..t ? :)
[04:09] <abattoir> BKaj: what did your trace reveal?
[04:10] <abattoir> BKaj: i'm getting a bat-cloak :-\
[04:10] <abattoir> >> <BKaj> who gives  sh..t ? :)<< : About Bruce Wayne or Americans and their patriotism? :P
[04:11] <abattoir> or is it Americans in general ? ;)
[04:11] <crimsun> ok, we're wandering way off-topic
[04:11] <abattoir> BKaj: ????
[04:12] <abattoir> crimsun: ok, ok, sorry
[04:12] <abattoir> i got carried away
[04:14] <ku> Hi guys, I just installed kubuntu but I'm having trouble updating my video drivers. I've tried following all the guides online, but I can't seem to get the "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" line
[04:14] <ubuntu_> i was wondering if i can get some help installing ubunto i am having trouble
[04:14] <ku> Can anybody help me? ^^
[04:15] <ubuntu_> everytime it goes to reformatt it gets to about 15% of reformatting then does a quick switch to system install and says failed creating filesystem
[04:15] <ubuntu_> anyone have any clue why
[04:16] <abattoir> ubuntu_:  the installer crashes?
[04:16] <ubuntu_> yeah
[04:16] <PokerFacePenguin> ubuntu_: Do you think your HD is corrupted or not partitioned/formatted correctly?
[04:16] <ubuntu_> don't think hd is corrupted had fedora on right before i tried this
[04:16] <ubuntu_> it fails while ubuntu tries to formatt the hadd
[04:16] <ubuntu_> hd i mean
[04:16] <abattoir> ubuntu_: which filesystem type? XFS ?
[04:16] <ubuntu_> ext3
[04:17] <ubuntu_> and swap
[04:17] <abattoir> ubuntu_: have you tried repeating the process?
[04:17] <ubuntu_> i think i am newb
[04:17] <ubuntu_> yes
[04:17] <PokerFacePenguin> ubuntu_: did you wipe out the partitions and start over?
[04:17] <ubuntu_> different ways and sizes of partitions too
[04:17] <ubuntu_> yup
[04:17] <micah> hello
[04:17] <ubuntu_> if some one wants to vnc into my machine and try it they can
[04:17] <PokerFacePenguin> mdsum on cd ok?
[04:17] <ubuntu_> i have that setup right now
[04:18] <abattoir> pierreth: it worked?
[04:18] <ubuntu_> how do i do that
[04:18] <pierreth> abattoir: no, i have a hard time :-(
[04:18] <abattoir> pierreth: i have to go to bed... catch you later... :)
[04:18] <abattoir> pierreth: why is that?
[04:18] <nikkiana> grrr... why can't i remember how to do anything....
[04:18] <ubuntu_> poker face how do i do that
[04:18] <nikkiana> someone take pity on a poor girl and remind her how to change her default web browser using the console?
[04:19] <PokerFacePenguin> ubuntu_: i am wondering if your cd  that you burned is ok
[04:19] <abattoir> pierreth: you replaced xorg.conf with the one i gave?
[04:19] <BKaj> abattoir: i was away for a few, i'm not anti US , and my trace showed india
[04:19] <ubuntu_> how do i check it from the kde enviroment
[04:19] <pierreth> abattoir: you gave what?
[04:20] <abattoir> BKaj: well, believe what you want :)
[04:20] <BKaj> good cover
[04:20] <abattoir> pierreth: i gave you a modified xorg.conf
[04:20] <abattoir> BKaj: waht cover?
[04:20] <PokerFacePenguin> ubuntu_: this might help http://maconlinux.net/linux-man-pages/en/md5sum.1.html
[04:20] <abattoir> *what
[04:20] <abattoir> pierreth: i gave you a pastebin link
[04:21] <abattoir> pierreth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18559 here it is again
[04:21] <BKaj> yer going to bed that prolly means uk
[04:21] <abattoir> BKaj: well... as i said, you can guess all you want :)
[04:21] <BKaj> :)
[04:21] <ubuntu_> yeah poker but where do i get the number for md5sum i don't see it on ubuntu website
[04:21] <abattoir> pierreth: try that and restart, mouse should work...
[04:22] <abattoir> pierreth, BKaj : catch you guys tomorrow... or later today :P
[04:22] <pierreth> abattoir: thank you!!
[04:22] <abattoir> pierreth: np :)
[04:22] <BKaj> c ya abattoir
[04:22] <PokerFacePenguin> ubuntu_: they are usually in the same directory as the file you downloaded...let me run over there real quick and see
[04:23] <abattoir> you too BKaj :)
[04:23] <ubuntu_> yeah i got that now how do i do it on the image of the cd
[04:23] <test> hiya
[04:24] <PokerFacePenguin> ubuntu_: check this out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[04:28] <ubuntu_> how long does md5sum normally take
[04:29] <PokerFacePenguin> usually quick
[04:29] <ubuntu_> well i started before i wrote that last msg and it is still running
[04:29] <ubuntu_> in the terminal
[04:29] <ubuntu_> still going too
[04:29] <PokerFacePenguin> is the cd spinning ?
[04:29] <ubuntu_> yes
[04:30] <ubuntu_> this is what i typed "/usr/bin/md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -v 'OK$'"
[04:30] <helpmeee> im trying to run shareaza in wine but it never seems to connect to any of the urls i's querying :( any idea how to fix this?
[04:31] <PokerFacePenguin> ubuntu_: i'd let it run for a bit, best not to be too hasty
[04:31] <ubuntu_> ok
[04:31] <ubuntu_> if this comes back ok then what do i do
[04:31] <ubuntu_> and it did just finish with no errors
[04:31] <PokerFacePenguin> then you are golden on your disc, otherwise, burn a new disc
[04:31] <PokerFacePenguin> ok, so that narrows it down
[04:32] <ubuntu_> so how do i get this to install
[04:32] <PokerFacePenguin> you wiped out all the partitions and started from scratch?
[04:32] <ubuntu_> yes with the installer that comes with unbuntu
[04:32] <ubuntu_> did it automatically and manually
[04:33] <PokerFacePenguin> and how far u get?
[04:33] <yoshu> does anyone know why amarok and kaffine will not play my mp3's?
[04:33] <ubuntu_> made it to step 6 of 6 install
[04:33] <ubuntu_> but in that step it tries to creat ext3 and it gets to 15% then says failed creating file system
[04:34] <yoshu> it just cycles through them - I'm using the xine engine, and dapper
[04:34] <PokerFacePenguin> i would try it with ext2 just for grins, because ext3 is just ext2 with journaling
[04:34] <PokerFacePenguin> you can convert it after install
[04:34] <ubuntu_> ok i might need you to help me walk threw the manual setup of the partitons then
[04:34] <PokerFacePenguin> tune2fs does that if i am not mistaken
[04:35] <PokerFacePenguin> is this the only os on the puter?
[04:35] <ubuntu_> yes
[04:35] <PokerFacePenguin> you have a seperate /home partition?
[04:35] <ubuntu_> don't know what you mean by that
[04:35] <yoshu> anyone else have mp3 problems with amarok/kaffine?  ?
[04:36] <PokerFacePenguin> that means if you want to reinstall, you can keep all your data and settings ;)
[04:36] <ubuntu_> no i odn't think so
[04:36] <yoshu> i have amarok 1.4
[04:36] <test> will the /home partition automount?
[04:36] <PokerFacePenguin> i would set up a /boot, /, /home, and swap partitions
[04:36] <ubuntu_> wheat i did is put the cd in chose the first option to start or install ubuntu got the the kde desktop then chose install icon
[04:36] <yoshu> i usually use debian sid, I've never had this problem
[04:36] <PokerFacePenguin> install it to /
[04:37] <yoshu> this is supposed to be a stable OS and I can't even play mp3's? wtf
[04:37] <ubuntu_> poker can you vnc into this computer and install it for me or atleast setup the partitions
[04:37] <test> and how much space should one put aside for /home?
[04:38] <PokerFacePenguin> for /home, the most
[04:38] <PokerFacePenguin> i use like 10g for / and that is overkill
[04:38] <test> so how much does one need for /?
[04:38] <BKaj> test are you planning on doing any video editing or burning, like large file work
[04:38] <BKaj> ?
[04:39] <test> bkaj: Possibly,
[04:40] <test> will my network settings save in /home too?
[04:40] <BKaj> my hdd is 160G , 120 for NTFS-windows and 40 for kubuntu / and swap
[04:40] <BKaj> swap is 500Mb
[04:40] <ubuntu_> poker are you willing to remote desktop into this machine
[04:41] <BKaj> I do some video stuff and I find that what i'm using is plenty
[04:41] <test> bkaj: how much do you have for / and /home?
[04:42] <PokerFacePenguin> ubuntu_: I just upgraded to breezy and haven't tweeked it out to allow all that kinda stuff yet
[04:42] <PokerFacePenguin> ubuntu_: dapper
[04:42] <PokerFacePenguin> lol
[04:42] <BKaj> 30
[04:42] <ubuntu_> you don't have vnc on the comp you are at
[04:43] <yoshu> you've all been really helpful
[04:44] <PokerFacePenguin> ubuntu_: whats yer ip
[04:44] <BKaj> vnc .. no
[04:44] <yoshu> I'm about to abandon Kubuntu; does a dist-upgrade move up to testing?
[04:47] <jimmy__> hey does anybody know how to install macroflash 9?
[04:47] <jimmy__> i am new to kubuntu
[04:47] <ubuntu_> poker it is <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:47] <ubuntu_> password 123456
[04:48] <BKaj> geez, if the guy just wants to play mp3s ...why not just use windoze ? :)
[04:49] <jimmy__> test: hey do you remember me?
[04:50] <jimmy__> everytime i try to install macroflash 9 it wont let me
[04:50] <ubuntu_> poker you going to log in
[04:55] <PokerFacePenguin> ubuntu_: having to reconfig stuff
[04:56] <jimmy__> if it is not too trouble, i have a question.
[04:57] <satafterh> adept freezes up al lthe time, is there a fix for this
[04:59] <Hawkwind> jimmy__: Just ask
[05:06] <edgard> a
[05:07] <Zarel> Well, I've decided to try Kubuntu.
[05:08] <Zarel> Right now, it's still in live CD mode; haven't installed it yet.
[05:08] <Zarel> But I was wondering, how do I increase my resolution?
[05:08] <Zarel> It's currently stuck at 600x480, which is nowhere near enough.
[05:10] <BKaj> you can't unrtil it's installed, Zarel...but you can make the panel "tiny"  so you can access the "next" buttons by right clicking in the panel
[05:10] <Zarel> !!!!!!
[05:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about !!!!! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:11] <Zarel> What's the point of a Live CD if the largest resolution is 600x480?!
[05:11] <BKaj> configure panel to "tiny '
[05:11] <Zarel> Hmm. Helps a bit, but doesn't answer my question.
[05:11] <osiris> BKaj, you can adjust it in live mode, you just cant comit the changes
[05:11] <Tommy2k4> zarel, do you see system settings on k-menu?
[05:12] <BKaj> you won't be able to change the rez till kubuntu is installed
[05:13] <osiris> then how come i did it on the box, not 15 feet from me
[05:13] <BKaj> he still won't see the "next" buttons tho
[05:13] <Zarel> Tommy2k4: Yes, but the only option is 600x480.
[05:13] <BKaj> depends on the monitor I guess
[05:14] <Zarel> I can see the next buttons now, I set the panel to "tiny"
[05:14] <Tommy2k4> dunno if youd be able to edit xorg.conf and restart X from livecd
[05:14] <BKaj> good , now just install the OS
[05:14] <Zarel> First, I have a question.
[05:15] <Zarel> What's the point of having a LiveCD if the only resolution it's possible to set it at makes the operating system virtually unusable?
[05:15] <Zarel> (Just out of curiosity)
[05:15] <Tommy2k4> i used livecd yesterday on another pc and im sure the default was 1024x768 or bigger
[05:15] <Frederick> folks doesn't kubuntu features monopod?
[05:15] <Tommy2k4> it would depend on hardware im guessing
[05:16] <BKaj> dunno Zarel, i asked the same question ...it has to do with the cheaper video cards default , was the answer I got
[05:16] <Zarel> I don't have room to install Ubuntu.
[05:16] <Zarel> Without getting rid of one of these partitions.
[05:16] <wolfmanz> anyone have any idea how i get my login resolution to match my desktop resolution?
[05:16] <Zarel> Oh, whatever. Vista can go.
[05:18] <Zarel> Also, the multiple desktop thing should default to off, and the panel should default to tiny, when the resolution is 600x480.
[05:18] <BKaj> how much room do you have for ubintu Zarel?
[05:18] <pierreth> hello, i would like to set the resolution of my screen
[05:18] <Zarel> I mean, it's pretty much unusable otherwise.
[05:18] <Zarel> BKaj: 40 GB if I trash my Vista partition.
[05:19] <BKaj> you can still run vista on 20 and ubuntu on the other 20
[05:19] <Zarel> Nah.  If I get connection reset by peer or something, you know why.
[05:19] <Zarel> Not that anyone cares.
[05:20] <BKaj> You can make room with a partitioner, Zarel
[05:21] <Zarel> BKaj: Again, no need to make room.
[05:21] <Zarel> I seriously doubt I'll ever boot to Vista again.
[05:21] <pierreth> how can i add new screen resolution?
[05:21] <Zarel> Its support for my computer's drivers is terrible.
[05:21] <BKaj> ok , it's yer pc :)
[05:21] <Tommy2k4> pierreth,  kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:21] <Zarel> Not to mention it's impossible to turn off mouseover animations.
[05:21] <pierreth> Tommy2k4: ok!
[05:22] <Zarel> I mean, when I mouseover something, I want it to light up immediately. It increases usability that way.
[05:22] <Zarel> I can understand that fading makes it look prettier, but at least LET ME TURN IT OFF
[05:22] <BKaj> yeah Zarel, I tried it as well, no sound and my dhcp was all screwed up , took forever to get on the net
[05:22] <Tsed> Hmm.  Can someone recommend a KDE-based newsreader?  Knode doesn't seem to want to work (related to the fact that it's been dead for 2 years, maybe? :/ )
[05:23] <Zarel> Tsed: Do you consider Thunderbird to be KDE-based?
[05:23] <Tsed> Zarel: Nope. :)
[05:23] <BKaj> RSS?
[05:24] <Zarel> Worth a try.
[05:24] <wolfmanz> anyone have any idea how i get my login resolution to match my desktop resolution?
[05:24] <Zarel> So. Anyway.
[05:24] <Hawkwind> Tsed: akregator
[05:25] <Tsed> Hawkwind: Er, isn't akregator just a feed reader?  I'm looking for a newsgroup reader.
[05:25] <Hawkwind> Tsed: pan
[05:25] <Hawkwind> Tsed: Sorry, I misread newsreader as RSS reader
[05:26] <Tsed> Hawkwind: Yeah, I'm aware of pan, was just wondering if there was a decent KDE/Qt client.
[05:27] <Tsed> In any case, not a huge deal.  Just something I'm kinda surprised isn't integrated into Kontact yet.
[05:30] <satafterh> anyone else have issue with adept freesing up sometimes
[05:32] <Healot> nay
[05:32] <satafterh> whats a good software firewall?
[05:33] <aldo> hola
[05:33] <Healot> satafterh, you meant firewall rules builder GUI?
[05:33] <Healot> i'd say firestarter
[05:36] <Tommy2k4> time for bed now, cya
[05:38] <BKaj> some installed programs won't lauch with "run" and aren't listed in the kicker ...what gives ?
[05:41] <Tsed> BKaj: Can you give an example?  And did you just install these programs?
[05:41] <pierreth> hello, i am still unable to change my screen resolution
[05:41] <BKaj> vnc for one
[05:42] <Tsed> BKaj: The server, a client?  Which package/what command are you trying to run?
[05:43] <BKaj> pierreth: i installed a FTP program that is nowhere tob e found too
[05:43] <BKaj> reboot?
[05:44] <BKaj> oh sorry pierreth, you need tobe admin to change the resolution
[05:44] <pierreth> BKaj: yes, but the resolution that i want is no there
[05:45] <Tsed> BKaj: Which FTP program?  A client, server?  I usually get the menus to refresh after installing packages by running "kbuildsycoca"... that may help if it's *supposed* to have a menu entry.
[05:45] <BKaj> move the slider
[05:47] <BKaj> brb
[05:47] <pierreth> BKaj: i cannot move the slider farther to the right, my resolution is not there
[05:47] <BKaj> how hi?
[05:47] <sdrac8> pierreth: what resolution are you trying to get?
[05:47] <Tsed> pierreth: The resolution you want *is* listed in your xorg.conf, though?
[05:47] <intelikey> anyone know what mounts these and why ?
[05:47] <intelikey> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)
[05:47] <intelikey> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)
[05:48] <pierreth> Tsed: i added it
[05:48] <pierreth> Tsed: first for the 24 bit depth only
[05:48] <Tommy2k4> wtf!
[05:48] <Tommy2k4> my kubuntu is in zoom mode or something
[05:48] <pierreth> Tsed: now, i added it for all the depth
[05:49] <Tsed> pierreth: When you run "xrandr", does that resolution get listed?
[05:49] <intelikey> oh hehhe never mind.  it looks like thats a bogus mount.
[05:49] <pierreth> Tsed: no, it is not
[05:49] <archangel_> sup folks
[05:50] <Tsed> Hrmm.
[05:50] <Tommy2k4> kubuntu crashed again so when i rebooted and turned monitor off before it booted up cos i was gonna go to bed
[05:50] <pierreth> Tsed: do i have to restart X?
[05:50] <Tommy2k4> and now i turn monitor on and its in zoom mode or something
[05:50] <Tommy2k4> zoomed in very far and if i move mouse to the edge of the screen it scrolls around
[05:50] <archangel_> linux just freaked me out
[05:50] <Healot> sure
[05:51] <Healot> doesn't suprise me...
[05:51] <Tsed> pierreth: You won't access the updated xorg.conf until you restart X, but it sounds like you might need a bit more fiddling anyway. :)
[05:51] <archangel_> but it draws me to question
[05:51] <archangel_> my asus bit the dust
[05:51] <nikkiana> what do i need to do to set my default browser using console? I can't remember....
[05:51] <pierreth> Tsed: well, i made a restart when i made the change for one depth
[05:51] <intelikey> Tommy2k4 [ctrl] +[alt] +[+]
[05:52] <archangel_> just got a gigabyte and put the machine back to gether
[05:52] <pierreth> Tsed: do all the depth must have the same resolutions?
[05:52] <intelikey> Tommy2k4 [ctrl] +[alt] +[-]    those are the zoom keys.
[05:52] <archangel_> linux booted right up
[05:52] <Tsed> pierreth: Specifically, you might want to check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any output regarding that resolution.
[05:52] <Tsed> pierreth: Nope.
[05:52] <archangel_> with windows I would have to reinstall
[05:52] <archangel_> show I just in case?
[05:53] <archangel_> should I just in case?
[05:53] <Zarel> Okay, I'm back now.
[05:53] <Tsed> pierreth: I suspect that your horizsync or vertrefresh may not be entirely correct, which could make X chuck out that resolution as invalid.
[05:54] <Zarel> Um.
[05:54] <archangel_> anybody here for an wasy one?
[05:54] <Zarel> su is giving "authentication failed"
[05:54] <intelikey> Zarel how are yo using 'su'  ?
[05:55] <Tsed> pierreth: I suggest you check the specs on your monitor and compare them to your xorg.conf.  Just be careful with those settings... setting them improperly can cause problems (as in hardware damage)... or so I'm told.
[05:55] <Zarel> intelikey: Typing "su" and pressing Enter.
[05:55] <Zarel> intelikey: Then typing my password.
[05:55] <intelikey> Zarel and you have set a root password ?
[05:56] <Zarel> intelikey: No.
[05:56] <Zarel> Leaving it blank doesn't work either.
[05:56] <pierreth> Tsed: i am sure of the resolution i am setting 1280x1024
[05:56] <intelikey> then you can't inter a passwd for 'su'   try   sudo su -
[05:56] <Tsed> pierreth: *nod*, but the horizsync and vertrefresh settings for your monitor may be off.
[05:57] <intelikey> Zarel no leaving it blank wont work either.   hehhe no.
[05:57] <Zarel> intelikey: It still asks me for a password.
[05:57] <intelikey> yes and use yours.
[05:57] <archangel_> I need help
[05:57] <pierreth> Tsed: i have this in the log: (II) RADEON(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range)
[05:57] <intelikey> it is sudo asking,  not su.  sudo uses your passwd.  su uses the target's passwd.
[05:57] <Tsed> archangel_: I don't see why you would need to reinstall. :p
[05:57] <Zarel> FINALLY
[05:58] <Tsed> pierreth: There you go!  Look up the horizsync of your display, then you can add that to your xorg.conf.
[05:58] <archangel_> Tsed: cool thanx, that was my first question
[05:58] <Zarel> Okay.
[05:59] <Zarel> Question: How do I change my resolution?
[05:59] <pierreth> Tsed: ok
[05:59] <archangel_> Tsed: how to I get my video card to use 3d exceleration
[05:59] <Tsed> archangel_: What video card?
[06:00] <intelikey> pierreth and Tsed  you do know that   /etc/init.d/displayconfig-hwprobe.py  may rewrite your /etc/X11/xorg.conf at boot time.   if you customize xorg  disable  displayconfig-hwprobe.py
[06:00] <archangel_> nvidia  ............. crap I just for got
[06:00] <Tsed> I had no idea... but then I never had that happen.
[06:00] <archangel_> Tsed: 5700xt or 5900 ?
[06:01] <intelikey> Tsed yeah it's a new agravation that *buntu sprang on us.
[06:01] <Tsed> archangel_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:01] <pierreth> intelikey: no, i made a restart and i kept my file
[06:01] <intelikey> more automatic crap to mess up.
[06:02] <intelikey> pierreth i said 'may'   not  'will'   read up on it.
[06:02] <pierreth> Tsed: i made a download with Konqueror, where the file can be?
[06:02] <pierreth> intelikey: yes but the file is not written in my case
[06:03] <andrew__> Hey does anyone know why my package manager is not showing me noninstalled ones.
[06:03] <Tommy2k4> check the tickboxes at the top? (in adept)
[06:04] <intelikey> the sole purpose of  "displayconfig-hwprobe.py"  is to rewrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf {as needed}   and in the case of "<Tommy2k4> and now i turn monitor on and its in zoom mode or something" ^^^ scroll up for info.   it's a hose job.
[06:04] <Tsed> pierreth: Uhh... anywhere you told it to go? :)  (whenever I use it, I get a "save as" box asking for where I want to put it...)
[06:04] <Tommy2k4> huh
[06:04] <pepsi> lol is that why i have to fix xorg.conf all the time?
[06:05] <pepsi> that was pissing me off
[06:05] <pepsi> i thought i did something
[06:05] <intelikey> Tommy2k4 and welcome back    btw.
[06:05] <caos> hi all
[06:05] <Tommy2k4> ctrl alt backspace got it out of zoom
[06:05] <Tommy2k4> dunno why it went like that in the first place
[06:06] <pepsi> because it was set to a resolution thats higher than the monitor could display
[06:06] <pierreth> Tsed: i don't understand the concept of frequency
[06:06] <intelikey> cause it booted with the monitor off.  and "displayconfig-hwprobe.py"  an init script, adjusted for the change in hardware.
[06:06] <Tommy2k4> ah ok
[06:06] <pierreth> Tsed: my monitor is connected in dvi
[06:07] <Tsed> Err... should DVI make a difference? (anyone?  I'm not terribly familiar with that)
[06:08] <BKaj> dvi is just a connection type
[06:08] <pierreth> Tsed: ok i have it Fh: 30~82kHz, Fv: 50~85Hz
[06:08] <pierreth> Tsed: what should i do with that?
[06:08] <intelikey> i don't see how it would affect the monitor settings no.
[06:09] <Tsed> Kay.  I didn't really think so, but when dealing with other people's hardware... ;p
[06:09] <pierreth> Tsed: can i get the driver for my monitor instead?
[06:09] <BKaj> there should be a way to find the native resolution of the monitor ?
[06:10] <coachJ> friendlysoviet are you russia?
[06:10] <Tommy2k4> type the monitor model in google and find the manual
[06:10] <FriendlySoviet> No, I'm a male.
[06:10] <Tsed> pierreth: In your xorg.conf, look for the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines in the "Monitor" section.
[06:10] <intelikey> http://monitorworld.com  has a search engine for that.
[06:10] <coachJ> ?
[06:10] <coachJ> in russia
[06:11] <FriendlySoviet> Can some one help me with this wireless problem? The network settings displays the wireless card, but when I click enable, it only stays enabled for less than a second and than goes back to being disabled.
[06:11] <BKaj> what the designers then he should set his monitor for that res and frame rate for best results
[06:11] <Tsed> pierreth: You can then just enter those values you mentioned above (units not needed), then restart X.
[06:11] <FriendlySoviet> Coachj : That was a joke. And no, I'm not a Russian :P
[06:11] <coachJ> sorry its late
[06:11] <Tsed> pierreth: Then, with any luck, you'll be in your native res.
[06:11] <FriendlySoviet> HEh, no problem.
[06:12] <Tsed> pierreth: Without any luck, well... make note of the settings you had before you modified xorg.conf. :)
[06:12] <intelikey> yes but inflection is so hard to hear in text mode....
[06:12] <pierreth> Tsed: ok
[06:13] <BKaj> his nick implies that soviets aren't friendly, if he has to prefix it with "friendly" :)
[06:13] <coachJ> "the evil empire"
[06:13] <BKaj> uhoh
[06:13] <BKaj> a reaganite
[06:14] <intelikey> just like the logo for ubuntu implies that linux is not for humans  if you have to specify that this distro is...
[06:14] <coachJ> yes
[06:14] <BKaj> for lil birdbrains in tuxes :)
[06:14] <Tsed> Zoobuntu: Linux for Animals?
[06:14] <coachJ> its not for humans
[06:15] <intelikey> BKaj who's in texas ?
[06:15] <coachJ> Florida
[06:15] <BKaj> birdbrains... Ill bite :)
[06:15] <pierreth> Tsed: i will quit and try it
[06:15] <FriendlySoviet> Bkaj, I'm hurt. You don't think I'm friendly?
[06:15] <pierreth> Tsed: thank you!
[06:15] <Tsed> pierreth: No problem, hope it works. :)
[06:16] <BKaj> of course I do , it's the other soviets that your nick implies that aren't
[06:16] <intelikey> just an artical 'a' would change the whole implication on that.
[06:17] <intelikey> as would also 'the' but in the oppisite way.
[06:17] <BKaj> anyway its getting late ...past bedtime for old guys
[06:17] <h3sp4wn> BKaj: 5:21 is a bit late for me also
[06:17] <BKaj> 12:17 AM here
[06:18] <coachJ> new folks should check out http://www.LinuxReality.com
[06:18] <BKaj> night all , take care
[06:18] <intelikey> 10:18  do you know where your rug rats are ?
[06:18] <h3sp4wn> (ie 5:21am)
[06:18] <coachJ> in bed?
[06:19] <intelikey> not rug rats?   yard apes then.
[06:20] <coachJ> this X-rug rat is going to bed, good night all
[06:20] <pierreth> Tsed: i made it!
[06:20] <archangel_> I'm using Kubuntu and cant get my video card to run in 3d exceleration mode
[06:22] <nirmal> BKaj: Hi how r u today
[06:22] <h3sp4wn> <archangel_: Which model of card ?
[06:22] <Tsed> pierreth: Awesome.
[06:23] <Tsed> archangel_: Did you follow the instructions on the wiki page I linked you to?
[06:23] <intelikey> !ati
[06:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:23] <archangel_> fx5900xt Invidia
[06:24] <archangel_> Tsed: yes, but the package handler was different than what I am using, so the menus didnt mach
[06:24] <archangel_> match
[06:24] <archangel_> I guess they were using gnome
[06:24] <archangel_> cause that program wasnt in my menu
[06:25] <intelikey> synaptic will run in kde too
[06:25] <h3sp4wn> !nvidia
[06:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:25] <archangel_> k, thanks
[06:26] <archangel_> thats the same page
[06:27] <Tsed> archangel_: You can use whatever package manager you want, so long as you install those packages.  Adept will do fine, if you don't want to install synaptic.
[06:28] <archangel_> Hey I dont care, I thought I couldnt install it cause I'm running 'Kubuntu' and not 'Ubuntu'
[06:29] <archangel_> I have about 2 weeks experience with linux, so I'm a litle green
[06:29] <intelikey> not compared to a lot that come through here.   you are an expert already.
[06:29] <Tsed> archangel_: For most purposes, Ubuntu and Kubuntu are the same distro.  They just have a different default package set.
[06:29] <archangel_> ahh, ok
[06:30] <archangel_> well, I have learned that gnome sucks
[06:30] <goop2> hmmm...
[06:30] <Tsed> archangel_: Any time you see 'synaptic' in ubuntu docs, you can pretty much feel free to substitute your preferred method of searching for/installing packages (adept by default in adept).
[06:31] <Tsed> *adept by default in kde :p
[06:31] <Tsed> Er, in Kubuntu.  Bah, you get the point!
[06:31] <goop2> but...
[06:31] <goop2> Kubuntu uses KDE O_o
[06:32] <archangel_> I might install the program, being that I'm not sure what I'm doing so I can follow the menus they give
[06:32] <intelikey> apt-cache search blah   &   sudo apt-get install blah's-full-name
[06:32] <Tsed> intelikey: Out of curiosity, is there any reason to use apt-get over aptitude?
[06:32] <OOD> Tsed: aptitude remembers all dependencies
[06:32] <intelikey> shorter code
[06:32] <Tsed> I'm under the impression that aptitude generally tracks reverse deps better, so I stick to that...
[06:33] <OOD> so if you decide to instal gnome, you can easily remove it later
[06:33] <intelikey> less key strokes
[06:33] <OOD> if you install say gnome-desktop with apt-get, you'll have to remove every single package seperately if you want to remove it
[06:33] <Tsed> Hmm.  Works out about the same with tab-completion. :)
[06:33] <intelikey> actually i type 'urpmq blah'  for searches  and  'urpmi blah ' for installs.
[06:34] <OOD> if you use aptitude, it'll remove everything
[06:34] <Tsed> OOD: Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought, but I see 'apt-get' in a lot of howtos/docs, so I was just wondering if there was a reason for a general preference for apt-get.
[06:34] <pierreth> Tsed: could you help me selecting my printer?
[06:35] <intelikey> removing things is my specialty    dpkg works wonders on that.
[06:35] <OOD> Tsed: im actually not sure about that, but aptitude will remember all dependencies installed with the selected program
[06:36] <Tsed> pierreth: USB printer, or?
[06:36] <intelikey> man deborphan
[06:38] <pierreth> Tsed: i have a usb, the problem is that i have too much choose for my printer model
[06:39] <Tsed> pierreth: Driver-wise, you mean?
[06:39] <goop2> anyone know how to install GRUB from a Drake Live CD?
[06:39] <pierreth> Tsed: i don't know, I am in French
[06:39] <OOD> goop2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:40] <goop2> haha - howd you know? :P
[06:40] <moi> ptss
[06:40] <pierreth> Tsed: i have an HP Deskjey 1220C and there is a lot of driver for this printer
[06:40] <Tsed> pierreth: Well, could you explain a bit where you're having trouble?
[06:40] <moi> to nun canal inter
[06:40] <OOD> goop2: go with the second option
[06:40] <intelikey> goop2 mount the installations root partition someplace like /mnt     and do  chroot /mnt grub-install /dev/hda       assuming you want it installed in the mbr and that you have hda
[06:41] <OOD> goop2: how'd i know? i had the same problem and had to fix it myself :P
[06:41] <goop2> hehe
[06:41] <pierreth> Tsed: i have a list of driver that i can choose from, should i care to select the best one?
[06:41] <Tsed> pierreth: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_1220C < According to that page you should look for a hpijs driver.
[06:42] <archangel_> how do I find out what version kernel I have?
[06:42] <robotgeek> archangel_: uname -a
[06:42] <intelikey> uname -r
[06:42] <pierreth> Tsed: this is what i was going to do
[06:43] <intelikey> ls /lib/modules/
[06:43] <OOD> groop2: btw this is only if grub was installed at a certain point and it was removed from the mbr, like by a windows installation for example
[06:43] <archangel_> which one?
[06:43] <archangel_> -a or -r?
[06:43] <intelikey> uname -r
[06:43] <archangel_> ok
[06:43] <robotgeek>  the -r gives you version, -a gives you all details :)
[06:44] <archangel_> ahh
[06:44] <Tsed> pierreth: That should get you going, methinks.
[06:44] <ironfroggy> any idea why i would get "request for subsystem 'sftp' failed on channel 0" when i try to use sftp on a known to be good server, which i can ssh to without trouble?
[06:45] <Tsed> ironfroggy: I assume you mean from konqueror when trying to use the sftp:// kioslave?
[06:45] <Tsed> (because if so... I'm interested too :p  I've gotten something similar a couple times...)
[06:45] <goop2> ood: I had it installed, installed windows, TRIED reinstalling it, but when I went to fix BIOS it kept saying "file not found"
[06:46] <ironfroggy> Tsed: no, im on the command line.
[06:46] <ironfroggy> im actually trying to use darcs, but it uses sftp which isnt working by itself either.
[06:48] <Tsed> ironfroggy: Again, somewhat out of curiosity, are you able to sftp to other servers?  (I'm *not* implying that you're trying to connect to a non-good server, just trying to see if our issues may be related)
[06:48] <pierreth> Tsed: i am unable to install it
[06:48] <ironfroggy> Tsed: let me try...
[06:49] <Tsed> pierreth: You're in administrator mode?
[06:49] <pierreth> Tsed: no, how can i be?
[06:50] <Tsed> pierreth: On the Printers main window, there should be an "administrator mode" button at the bottom.  I'm assuming you need to be admin to add the new printer.
[06:50] <ironfroggy> Tsed: yes i can get to other servers ok
[06:50] <intelikey> run things as root via the sudo command
[06:50] <pierreth> Tsed: where is the printer window?
[06:51] <mark_> any way to get a full server list?
[06:51] <Tsed> ironfroggy: Huh.  That sounds very similar to the issue I was having.  Nearly word for word the same error, same issues...  just with Konq instead of sftp directly.
[06:51] <Tsed> pierreth: System Settings -> Printers
[06:51] <ironfroggy> could you use sftp directly?
[06:52] <Tsed> ironfroggy: I didn't try, unfortunately.  I think I eventually just used the "fish" kioslave.
[06:53] <Tsed> ironfroggy: However, the sftp issue isn't constant -- it tends to work itself out, refusing to work once in awhile...
[06:53] <pierreth> Tsed: ok, you hope i don't look like too stupid :-)
[06:54] <ironfroggy> Tsed: well its constant for me, even between boxes. although, and this is an interesting point, i have successfully used the same server from a non-kubuntu box.
[06:54] <Tsed> pierreth: Everyone can use some guidance when getting introduced to something new, it's no biggie. ;p
[06:55] <pierreth> Tsed: it is not working, i have the same error as before
[06:55] <Tsed> pierreth: What's the error, exactly?
[06:55] <pierreth> Tsed: it says that i don't have the right do that or the pilote does not exist
[06:56] <intelikey> is kde set to automaticly logout users after # minutes ?
[06:56] <intelikey> i mean by default.   i know it can be set.
[06:56] <ironfroggy> logout or lock?
[06:56] <Tsed> intelikey: Nope.
[06:57] <intelikey> ironfroggy logout.   but  i think i see what is happening.
[06:58] <intelikey> user is unable to login.   prolly no .sessionrc
[06:59] <ironfroggy> or you are out of harddrive space.
[07:00] <intelikey> hehhe /dev/null may be out of space  :)
[07:01] <Tsed> pierreth: Just to clarify, you're going into Admin Mode -> "Add" -> "Add Printer/Class" -> "Local Printer", then the driver database gets built, then you select your printer/driver?
[07:01] <h3sp4wn>  /dev/null cannot run out of space
[07:02] <timi> how do i install firefox
[07:02] <intelikey> h3sp4wn mmm or it's always out of space,,, depends on the perspective i huess
[07:02] <intelikey> guess
[07:02] <timi> i downloaded the tarball and extracted, im really new to this
[07:02] <timi> wht do i do after i create a directory
[07:02] <pierreth> Tsed: yes, it is exatly what i did
[07:03] <timi> anybody here
[07:03] <intelikey> timi you delete all that crap  and use the package manager
[07:03] <intelikey> !info mozilla-firefox
[07:03] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu6.06 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 104 kB
[07:04] <timi> ok thanks
[07:04] <robin> or you could use automatix to install firefox
[07:04] <pierreth> Tsed: the driver is missing, it works when i try to select another one
[07:06] <Tsed> pierreth: Odd.  You can use the package manager to make sure hpijs is installed, but I don't see why it wouldn't be...
[07:06] <timi> the package mangager says its already installed but i dont see it
[07:07] <Tsed> pierreth: Or really, if another driver works, just go for it :p
[07:08] <pierreth> Tsed: the package manager finds nothing for hpijs
[07:09] <mark_> hi
[07:09] <Tsed> (before I suggest this again, is there a better way to refresh the menus other than kbuildsycoca?)
[07:09] <mark_> so..whats up
[07:09] <timi> ook im retarded so i open adept
[07:09] <timi> then i type in firefox and it says already installed
[07:09] <timi> but its not anywhere for me to open
[07:10] <OOD> timi: restart kicker
[07:10] <timi> whats kicker
[07:10] <OOD> the taskbar
[07:10] <OOD> go into konsole, type: killall kicker
[07:11] <OOD> then type kicker
[07:11] <timi> ah ok
[07:11] <OOD> and then it should be in the internet category
[07:11] <timi> nobe
[07:12] <timi> in adept it just says mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb installed
[07:12] <timi> i have dled anything just from the cd
[07:12] <OOD> that's not firefox ;)
[07:12] <Hawkwind> Open kmenuedit and click save
[07:12] <Tsed> OOD: for the record, you can do that in a bit more gentle way.  'dcop kicker kicker restart'
[07:12] <Hawkwind> Then it should appear in the menus under Internet
[07:12] <timi> alright OO
[07:12] <intelikey> that's only locales. you need the browser
[07:13] <timi> ok so how do i do that
[07:13] <intelikey> timi is there a reason you dont want to use konqueror ?
[07:13] <timi> yes. its not as good
[07:13] <OOD> timi: the firefox package is just called firefox
[07:13] <timi> ok
[07:13] <timi> so how do i get the actually firefox
[07:13] <Hawkwind> Or mozilla-firefox.  Either will work
[07:13] <OOD> Tsed: gentle? :P alright ill keep that in mind
[07:13] <pierreth> Tsed: it has printed!
[07:14] <Hawkwind> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[07:14] <Hawkwind> Type that in a terminal :P
[07:14] <timi> ok
[07:14] <intelikey> sudo it.
[07:15] <timi> ok i tried that but it said could not get lock //var/lib/dpkg/lock
[07:15] <Hawkwind> sudo
[07:15] <Hawkwind> sudo apt-get install mozille-firefox
[07:15] <Hawkwind> Just like that
[07:15] <OOD> timi: you have to close adept
[07:15] <Hawkwind> OOD: Good catch.  Forgot he had that open :P
[07:15] <OOD> :P
[07:16] <timi> hmm i guess apt-get jst doesnt work
[07:16] <Hawkwind> Yes it does
[07:16] <intelikey> yes it does.  close adept and prepend sudo.
[07:16] <timi> if adpet is open willthat conflict
[07:16] <OOD> yes, close it
[07:16] <intelikey> yep
[07:16] <Tsed> pierreth: Great.  I'm still looking around as to why those drivers aren't popping up, but if it works... :)
[07:17] <pierreth> Tsed: ok, but i only printed something very simple
[07:17] <intelikey> well i have something out of joint here.  i can't login graphically anymore.   i get a black screen with a cursor and back to kdm...
[07:17] <timi> ahh so i closed adept and tried no i get "package mozilla-frefox is not available, but is refred to by another pacakge
[07:18] <thoreauputic_> sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:18] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install firefox       if it errors your /etc/apt/sources.list needs fixed.
[07:19] <intelikey> yeah that ^
[07:19] <Leira> my kdm can start when booting, but i cannnot start it by hand (sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart), /var/log/kdm.log has 2 lines: "Fatal server error:
[07:19] <Leira> could not open default font 'fixed'"
[07:19] <timi> same message bout firefox not availabe but refreed to by another package
[07:20] <Leira> but startx just works find
[07:20] <timi> it says its replaced by libnss3
[07:20] <thoreauputic_> timi: your source.list is broken then
[07:20] <timi> then it says E: package firefox has no installation candidate
[07:20] <timi> ok
[07:20] <thoreauputic_> *sources.list
[07:20] <thoreauputic_> !sources
[07:20] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:20] <timi> alright any idea how i can fix that
[07:20] <Leira> i have     'FontPath     "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc"' in my xorg.conf
[07:21] <thoreauputic_> timi: see ubotu above
[07:21] <timi> alright
[07:21] <thoreauputic_> !repos
[07:21] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:21] <thoreauputic_> heh - it's the same now apparently
[07:21] <thoreauputic_> ;-)
[07:21] <Tsed> !info hpijs
[07:22] <ubotu> hpijs: HP Linux Printing and Imaging - gs IJS driver (hpijs). In repository main, is optional. Version 2.1.7+0.9.7-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 273 kB, installed size 852 kB
[07:22] <intelikey> thoreauputic_ yeah someone castrated the bot.
[07:22] <thoreauputic_> intelikey: yeah, I know who :)
[07:22] <Tsed> pierreth: Huh... you say that package doesn't show up?
[07:23] <Tsed> pierreth: I mean, it pops up in my searches (try just 'sudo aptitude install hpijs'?)
[07:24] <intelikey> is it possable to stop linux from reading an scsi drive every 3 seconds ?
[07:25] <ironfroggy> for example, why doesnt it list eclipse?
[07:25] <ironfroggy> what are the criteria by which adept_install filters packages that adept would list?
[07:27] <intelikey> ironfroggy if it's in the repos, adapt should list it.    /etc/apt/sources.list  is the "criteria"by which adept filters packages
[07:27] <ironfroggy> i know that. thats why i was asking what criteria adept_installer uses, which is obviously different.
[07:28] <ironfroggy> i mean, i never even use it because it doesnt have anything i actually want to install.
[07:28] <pepsi> adept just kinda sucks i think :P i tried to use it, but there doesnt appear to be a way to organize the packages other than by listing them all, and be assured that all the packages are listed
[07:29] <timi> alright i updated the repositories or w/e
[07:29] <intelikey>  man adept_installer
[07:29] <intelikey> No manual entry for adept_installer
[07:29] <intelikey> See 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available.
[07:29] <intelikey> idk....
[07:29] <timi> so now do i use adept to install firefox or apt-get it again
[07:30] <Tsed> Yeah... I adept_installer seems more confusing than helpful at this point. :/
[07:30] <ironfroggy> pepsi: what do you mean? how could you list them any other way than listing them all, and still be sure "that all the packages are listed"? that seems contradictory.
[07:30] <pepsi> ironfroggy: i mean categorically
[07:30] <intelikey> timi   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:30] <ironfroggy> pepsi: type something. there's your catagory.
[07:30] <intelikey> put that line in a terminal ^
[07:30] <pepsi> the filters or whatever dont seem to be include all the packages
[07:30] <pepsi> i dont want to search for something, iw ant t to pick a category and see whats all available
[07:31] <ironfroggy> pepsi: by what means do you deduce this? any examples? seems to work fine for me.
[07:31] <pepsi> if i dont know what the package is, searching wont help
[07:31] <intelikey> pepsi sure it will
[07:31] <pepsi> heh
[07:31] <ironfroggy> pepsi: less true than you might think. try typing "game" for example.
[07:31] <pepsi> show me what category linux-headers-*
[07:31] <pepsi> is in
[07:31] <intelikey> pepsi    try   apt-cache search rtf viewer
[07:32] <timi> hmm. i guess im stuck with konquere. it says the package isnt the following package "libness3" rpelaces it...
[07:32] <ironfroggy> catagories are overrated.
[07:32] <intelikey> searching for things you want doesn't just search the package names....
[07:32] <pepsi> it searches a description that might not have the word you're looking for in it
[07:32] <pepsi> awesome
[07:32] <ironfroggy> pepsi: in the same way, catagories are even more limiting. there are lots of words in a description to go by, but only one in a catagory name.
[07:33] <pepsi> i dunno, synaptic does exactly what i want
[07:33] <pepsi> so i use that, thats all
[07:33] <intelikey> pepsi then use synaptic and stop bitchin'
[07:33] <pepsi> absolutely not
[07:33] <intelikey> :)
[07:34] <intelikey> s/stop/continue/
[07:34] <timi> what does it mean when it says "package mozilla-firefox has no installation candidate
[07:34] <ironfroggy> grr stupid eclipse wants me to install freaking gnome to use it.
[07:34] <intelikey> timi it means you still havent updated your sources.list of the package database
[07:35] <ironfroggy> timi: thats a fake package i believe. a transitional thing. just install package firefox.
[07:35] <intelikey> !info mozilla-firefox
[07:35] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu6.06 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 104 kB
[07:35] <intelikey> it's in the main  repo  even
[07:35] <timi> ive updated everything
[07:36] <intelikey> !info firefox
[07:36] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu6.06 (dapper), package size 7725 kB, installed size 22888 kB
[07:36] <timi> added multiverse repositiories and al that
[07:36] <Tsed> I think adept has a lot of potential.  Adept_installers interface is nice... I'd kinda like to see that interface applied to adept as a whole.  Think it'd be much more sane to use that way.  *shrug*
[07:36] <timi> ok do i type that Infot thing in command
[07:36] <intelikey> that's in main also  ^
[07:36] <intelikey>  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:37] <intelikey> timi  paste that in your terminal ^
[07:37] <timi> ok i did
[07:38] <intelikey> and ?
[07:38] <timi> it shows a bunch of repositries
[07:38] <timi> universere and multiverse
[07:38] <timi> then it syas fetch 1B in 0s
[07:38] <Tsed> !info eclipse-platform-common
[07:38] <ubotu> eclipse-platform-common: Eclipse platform without plug-ins to develop any language (common files). In repository universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 35244 kB, installed size 40804 kB
[07:38] <intelikey> main   by any chance ?
[07:38] <Tsed> Maybe that'll do it, ironfroggy?
[07:38] <timi> main?
[07:38] <timi> it donst say taht anywehre
[07:39] <timi> it jsut says package firefox isnt avaible but is rferred to by anothe rpackage
 universere and multiverse <---  those are good  but what about  " MAIN "  ?
[07:39] <timi> no
[07:39] <timi> it doesnt say man
[07:39] <intelikey> you have the 'main' repo commented out in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:40] <intelikey> try again.
[07:40] <intelikey> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:40] <timi> k
[07:41] <timi> alright intelikey abunch of stuf comes up
[07:41] <intelikey> and delete the # in front of the line that says  "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted "
[07:41] <ironfroggy> Tsed: that is the actual tools not just libraries, right?
[07:42] <timi> ok just delted the #
[07:42] <timi> now wht
[07:42] <intelikey> save and exit
[07:42] <timi> i dont c save and exit just exit
[07:42] <timi> is that wht i do
[07:42] <intelikey> ctrl+o
[07:43] <Tsed> ironfroggy: I don't have the slightest clue.  I figured if you were on broadband, it would be useful to give a shot at, as it doesn't pull in gnome deps.  Sounds promising, at least.
[07:43] <timi> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[07:43] <timi> ok so ctrl o then ijust close it
[07:43] <intelikey> yep
[07:43] <timi> alright done
[07:43] <timi> so now wht
[07:43] <intelikey>  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:43] <intelikey> that again ^
[07:44] <intelikey> this time you get firefox.
[07:44] <timi> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Sources
[07:44] <timi> Fetched 1B in 0s (3B/s)
[07:44] <timi> Reading package lists... Done
[07:44] <timi> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:44] <timi> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[07:45] <intelikey> close adept
[07:45] <timi> its not open
[07:45] <intelikey> then close the other terminal window
[07:46] <timi> i only one open but ill try again
[07:46] <intelikey> automatic updater is the only other thing....
[07:47] <intelikey> click the little update icon in the taskbar
[07:47] <timi> i c
[07:47] <timi> i checked with that nano thing
[07:47] <timi> and the #
[07:47] <timi> is still there
[07:51] <timi> i cc you offred a file
[07:51] <timi> how do i accept
[07:52] <timi> it doesnt show it anywher
[07:52] <intelikey>  /dcc get blah
[07:52] <intelikey> blah means you should be able to guess from there.
[07:53] <timi> sources.list i prsume
[07:53] <intelikey> yep
[07:53] <intelikey> nick and file name  iirc
[07:53] <timi> and i type this whre
[07:53] <timi> in konsole?
[07:53] <intelikey> no right here
[07:54] <timi> it saysing unrecognized commaned /dcc
[07:55] <intelikey> what chat client doesnt' recognize dcc ?????
[07:55] <timi> sudo /dcc get sources.list
[07:55] <timi> damn it, i suck at this stuff
[07:56] <flaccid__> is there any doco/pages on apache2 on ubuntu? i notice it includes differently to normal
[07:56] <intelikey>  /dcc get intelikey sources.list
[07:56] <timi> damnt why is it saying /dcc is an unrecongized command
[07:57] <intelikey> i don't know.   you never even told me what client it was.
[07:57] <Tsed> sudo /dcc get sources.list < Are you typing that in konsole, or your irc client?
[07:57] <timi> irc
[07:57] <timi> im using Konversaton
[07:57] <timi> sudo /dcc get sources.list
[07:58] <intelikey> no sudo.
[07:58] <Tsed> sudo shouldn't be involved
[07:58] <timi> ok
[07:58] <timi> so right here in consol i type wht u guys typed minus the sudo
[07:58] <timi> err Konversation
[07:58] <intelikey>  /dcc get intelikey sources.list
[07:59] <intelikey> i can't make it any easier for you than that.
[07:59] <intelikey> !repos
[07:59] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:59] <intelikey> that's the next best bet ^
[07:59] <timi> alright, thanks but i give up, i dunno whts wrong w/ wht i have but nothing seems to work.
[08:00] <timi> get intelikey sources.list
[08:00] <timi> send
[08:00] <timi> get
[08:00] <intelikey> yeah try it with out the dcc   just  /get
[08:01] <intelikey>  /get intelikey sources.list
[08:02] <timi> i dont get why when i type exactly wht you type it says error get; unknown command, but when u type it shows up
[08:02] <intelikey> or /d    and hit the tab key to see what pops up
[08:03] <timi> hey somethingpop upp
[08:03] <timi> a new tab says ddc status
[08:04] <timi> the sources .list is there too
[08:04] <intelikey> so click it.
[08:04] <timi> i tried to
[08:04] <timi> clicked accepte
[08:05] <timi> connection failure: connection actively refused
[08:06] <intelikey> there you go
[08:06] <timi> thanks
[08:06] <intelikey> YEAYYY !!!   you did it.
[08:06] <timi> im almost there...
[08:06] <timi> status is still 0 but its recievening
[08:07] <intelikey> well maybe not.   file size is 679 bites
[08:07] <timi> it says 0 byts a second
[08:08] <timi> wht does urs say
[08:08] <intelikey> #3   SEND   timi        -=*=-.  100.0%     00:000.004573 sources.list
[08:09] <timi> alright well maybe i recieved it
[08:09] <intelikey> says you got it.
[08:09] <intelikey> says it went somewhere  lol
[08:09] <timi> it showed 0 kb total but now  i got it may be i just apt get again
[08:10] <intelikey> yes 679 is less than 1k
[08:10] <timi> sorry 0b
[08:10] <timi> but just apt get
[08:10] <flaccid> i followed the server guide to create a virtual host, but get [Sat Jul 22 05:28:48 2006]  [warn]  NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts on reload of apache
[08:11] <intelikey> no cat that file and see what it is...  0 bites is not right.
[08:11] <timi> how do i cat it
[08:11] <intelikey> type cat sources.list
[08:11] <intelikey> where ever it put it.
[08:11] <timi> it says no such file
[08:12] <intelikey> where ever it put it.
[08:12] <flaccid> they forgot to say take out # NameVirtualHost * when copying the default vhost config in the doco
[08:12] <intelikey> try one more time.
[08:13] <timi> its still recievin
[08:13] <timi> i bet it says 100 perecnt on yours right
[08:13] <intelikey> yep
[08:13] <timi> 0 percent here
[08:13] <intelikey> well we played with that....
[08:14] <timi> i didnt donwload any firewalls or anything so is there a functon that could be blocking it
[08:14] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[08:14] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[08:14] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[08:14] <intelikey> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main universe
[08:15] <intelikey> there it is.  put that in your sources.list
[08:16] <timi> ok i put them in the store list by doing...
[08:16] <intelikey> open an editor  blank page  and paste that in.  save it as sources.list
[08:17] <timi> for all 4 of the links
[08:17] <intelikey> edit as needed to make it clean and only four lines each beginning with  deb
[08:17] <intelikey> yes all four
[08:17] <timi> now wht do i past in
[08:18] <timi> it shows an index parent directory and such
[08:18] <noiesmo> how can i restart my mouse it seems to have disappeared after the screensavers been running
[08:18] <timi> do i just past in the url
[08:18] <noiesmo> its ps/2 not usb
[08:19] <intelikey> "save as"  > sources.list    in "kate"   open kate and paste there.
[08:20] <intelikey> nano   or just any editor
[08:20] <intelikey> i'd say vim  but i don't even want to start that discussion.
[08:20] <timi> lol
[08:21] <timi> i opent he index that you showed me
[08:21] <admiral_proFTW> intelikey, nah man, Emacs
[08:21] <timi> then i just save as sources.list
[08:21] <intelikey> yep
[08:21] <timi> i go to the second one and try the same thing, and it says overwrite
[08:21] <timi> which is expected
[08:21] <intelikey> prolly cant cause you didn't run it as root via sudo....
[08:22] <intelikey> so save it in your home as sources.list
[08:22] <timi> so i sudo konqueror or smethng
[08:22] <timi> cuz the links open in konqueror
[08:22] <intelikey> don't open the links.....
[08:22] <intelikey> just copy and paste them in the editor
[08:22] <timi> oook
[08:23] <intelikey> editor
[08:23] <intelikey> editor
[08:23] <intelikey> editor
[08:23] <intelikey> editor
[08:23] <intelikey> editor
[08:23] <intelikey> editor
[08:23] <thoreauputic_> ;-)
[08:23] <intelikey> ty
[08:23] <intelikey> :)
[08:23] <thoreauputic_> heh
[08:24] <intelikey> anything is welcome now
[08:24] <intelikey> use the big fish on me...
[08:24] <intelikey> just anything
[08:24] <timi> ok
[08:24] <timi> now the links are all 4 the same
[08:24] <intelikey> not exactly.
[08:24] <intelikey> look closely.
[08:25] <timi> do i copy everything even before and after the link
[08:26] <intelikey> timi yes  everything but my nickname
[08:27] <intelikey> now tatoo that on the inside of your eyelids so you don't loose it.
[08:27] <timi> haha ok i just did that
[08:27] <timi> saved as sources.list
[08:27] <timi> and it sitting on my desktop
[08:27] <timi> err nvm its not on my desktop
[08:28] <timi> but its saved
[08:28] <timi> so now im a good with teh apt-get update && apt-get install firefox
[08:28] <intelikey> sudo cp sources.list /etc/
[08:28] <intelikey> then you are.
[08:28] <intelikey> err
[08:28] <thoreauputic_> umm sudo cp sources.list /etc/apt/
[08:29] <intelikey> sudo cp sources.list /etc/apt/
[08:29] <thoreauputic_> :)
[08:29] <intelikey> thoreauputic_ yeah.
[08:29] <intelikey> timi   you see that ^
[08:29] <intelikey> ?
[08:29] <timi> yes
[08:29] <thoreauputic_> from the dir you saved it to
[08:30] <timi> i just styped save as sources.list
[08:30] <thoreauputic_> no
[08:30] <timi> so im guess it just went to the home directory
[08:30] <thoreauputic_> OK
[08:30] <thoreauputic_> from your home dir issue the command we gave you
[08:30] <intelikey> timi lets confirm       in the terminal   do    ls
[08:30] <timi> yeah its in home
[08:30] <intelikey> ls
[08:30] <timi> wht
[08:30] <intelikey> ls
[08:31] <timi> Is
[08:31] <intelikey> that's lower case  LS
[08:31] <intelikey> in the terminal
[08:31] <timi> yeah
[08:31] <timi> yep
[08:31] <thoreauputic_> intelikey:  ls sources.list would be better ( otherwise he spams his terminal)
[08:32] <intelikey> thoreauputic_ shouldn't be much in $HOME that standard ls will see
[08:32] <thoreauputic_> intelikey: heh - you haven't seen my $HOME ;-)
[08:32] <intelikey> timi you see the file 'sources.list' ?
[08:32] <timi> yes
[08:32] <intelikey> ok do this    diff sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:33] <intelikey>  diff sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:33] <intelikey> does it show lots of output ?
[08:33] <timi> thyping
[08:33] <intelikey> thyping?
[08:34] <intelikey> oh typing
[08:34] <intelikey> heh
[08:34] <intelikey> i was like   'thy ping' ???
[08:34] <thoreauputic_> intelikey: that's typing with your leg ( inefficient but interesting)
[08:34] <timi> yeah
[08:34] <ironfroggy> so someone told me that installing kmplayer will give me a kpart to play videos embedded in konq. i dont see any such thing tho.
[08:34] <timi> allotta of stuf
[08:34] <intelikey> then you aint ready
[08:35] <thoreauputic_> ironfroggy: there's a kmplayer plugin
[08:35] <intelikey> back to step 2
[08:35] <intelikey> sudo cp sources.list /etc/apt/
[08:35] <ironfroggy> wha?
[08:35] <intelikey> then the diff command again.
[08:35] <timi> nothing happens
[08:35] <intelikey> good
[08:35] <thoreauputic_> ironfroggy: kmplayer-konq-plugins - KMPlayer plugin for KHTML/Konqueror
[08:36] <thoreauputic_> ironfroggy: install that
[08:36] <intelikey> timi diff sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:36] <ironfroggy> thought it wasnt actually a plugin.
[08:36] <intelikey> lots of stuff    or nothing ?
[08:36] <timi> nothing
[08:36] <intelikey> good now you are ready
[08:36] <thoreauputic_> ironfroggy: trust me - it works fine with mplayer/ kmplayer
[08:36] <timi> alright
[08:36] <thoreauputic_> ironfroggy: I have it here
[08:36] <ironfroggy> already have it installed.
[08:36] <timi> so now i do
[08:37] <Tsed> Failing that, the mplayer-mozilla plugin should work as well.
[08:37] <intelikey> sudo apt-get update
[08:37] <timi> sudo apt-get update
[08:37] <thoreauputic_> ironfroggy: then check in konq configuration plugins
[08:37] <ironfroggy> and the mplayer-mozilla plugin isnt working. konq wont recognize it.
[08:37] <timi> yeah its actually connecting this time
[08:37] <timi> and a whol ebunch of stuff is going on
[08:37] <ironfroggy> thoreauputic_: ive looked. but i see nothing out of the ordinary, and no mention of either.
[08:37] <intelikey> :)
[08:37] <timi> ok its done
[08:37] <thoreauputic_> ironfroggy: check in konq configuration - you might need to rescan for plugins
[08:37] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:38] <ironfroggy> thoreauputic_: i have. nothing.
[08:38] <intelikey> timi you are welcome.
[08:38] <timi> haha it working
[08:38] <timi> thanks alot
[08:38] <thoreauputic_> ironfroggy: also some sites require that konq masquerade as firefox or IE
[08:38] <thoreauputic_> ironfroggy: don't ask why
[08:38] <timi> and after an hour and a half
[08:39] <timi> thanks for sticking it throught with me
[08:39] <timi> i wonder if i will actuallly ever be able to undestand wht i am doing
[08:39] <intelikey> timi  i hope the lessons learned last a lot longer than the time spent.
[08:39] <timi> haha hopefull
[08:39] <intelikey> yes. you will.
[08:39] <ironfroggy> thoreauputic_: well that isnt the problem because its trying to play the video, so its getting embedded, but konq doesnt have anything to play it with.
[08:40] <Tsed> ironfroggy: Hrmph.  Konq doesn't list either video plugins here, either... yet they're definitely working. =/
[08:40] <thoreauputic_> ironfroggy: do you have mplayer installed ?
[08:40] <timi> ok so everything is totally done
[08:40] <timi> do i ahve to restart the menu bar or w/e now
[08:41] <intelikey> timi people that are used to M$ windows  are at a dis-advantage here.  they think they know howto... but in fact they have to first be deprogramed, before they can start learning.  it's like loosing your sight in a sense.
[08:41] <timi> ahah i c
[08:41] <intelikey> timi   in the terminal type  firefox
[08:41] <thoreauputic_> intelikey: very true - the worst Linux beginners are people who think they are windows "power users" ;)
[08:42] <timi> there she is
[08:42] <timi> thanks a ton
[08:42] <intelikey> and on the next reset of x it should be in the menus
[08:42] <ironfroggy> thoreauputic_: yes its installed and functioning
[08:42] <intelikey> timi you bet.
[08:43] <intelikey> and i expect to collect that ton some day.
[08:43] <intelikey> :)
[08:43] <timi> haha thanks
[08:43] <ironfroggy> is there some known reason while local file listsing at the shell are taking so long i mistake them for the ls command locking up entirely?
[08:44] <intelikey> ironfroggy slow ls ?
[08:44] <ironfroggy> intelikey: rediculusly slow
[08:45] <intelikey> only place i've seen that is over ssh and a 'rediculusly slow' connection
[08:45] <intelikey> or on 5.25 floppy disks
[08:45] <timi> how do i log this convo so i can remember wht i did
[08:45] <intelikey> you are not using 5.25's are you ?
[08:46] <ironfroggy> only seems to be a problem when i have my samba share mounted for a while.
[08:46] <intelikey> timi i'm not familear with konversation, sorry.
[08:46] <ironfroggy> also what is odd, is that the mount point for that share isnt showing up in file open dialogs.
[08:46] <intelikey> i generally don't even use X
[08:46] <intelikey> ironfroggy ;/
[08:47] <intelikey> idk   but it's all poinging to a network issue.
[08:47] <intelikey> samba as a key player in that.
[08:47] <ironfroggy> yeah but it seems odd that directly listings even outside of the share would be affected.
[08:48] <intelikey> squid logs ?
[08:48] <ironfroggy> whazat
[08:48] <intelikey> not using squid ?
[08:48] <timi> i figured it out, thanks again intelikey. cya
[08:49] <intelikey> squid - Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache)
[08:49] <ironfroggy> what affect will that have on samba shares exactly?
[08:51] <intelikey> ironfroggy ya kinda out of my viable relmn there...   wish i could answer that.   but i can't.
[08:52] <ironfroggy> if its a continual problem, ill just set something to remount the share periodically.
[08:52] <intelikey> cron job
[08:53] <ironfroggy> yeah
[08:55] <MyDellSys> there is an apps that query bios setup or arch ?
[08:55] <Healot> dmidecode
[08:55] <Healot> !info dmidecode
[08:55] <wolfmanz> is there a way to set the resolution of the login display to be the same as my desktop resolution?
[08:55] <ubotu> dmidecode: Dump Desktop Management Interface data. In repository main, is standard. Version 2.7-3 (dapper), package size 50 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 knetbsd-i386)
[08:55] <ironfroggy> are there any licensing issues that would stop someone from packaging things like easyubuntu in an install CD and setting that kind of stuff up by default?
[08:56] <MyDellSys> hmm dunno I didnt build this livecd
[08:57] <intelikey> ironfroggy i think i saw a wiki or link on the main page about that  http://ubuntu.com
[08:57] <MyDellSys> Its been a while I dont have control of this laptop
[08:57] <intelikey> has the details, i din't bookmark it.
[08:58] <ironfroggy> just surprised that something like that hasnt gotten more attention. so many people are annoyed at, for example, not being able to play mp3's.
[08:59] <cpk2> anyway to remove almost all the packages i have except for just the basic kde ones?
[09:00] <intelikey> cpk2 hehhe  remove almost all    and  except kde   don't fit in the same world.
[09:01] <cpk2> intelikey: true but i still want to have a windows manager, i suppose i could just use fluxbox or somthing
[09:02] <intelikey> twm
[09:03] <cpk2> so any thoughts on removing almost all my packages?
[09:07] <word> err...does kubuntu or any linux os support ncq?
[09:07] <cpk2> ncq?
[09:07] <cpk2> !ncq
[09:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about ncq - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:07] <wolfmanz> is there a way to set the resolution of the login display to be the same as my desktop resolution?
[09:08] <cpk2> what is ncq?
[09:09] <intelikey> vga=791 maybe close     add to /boot/grub/menu.lst   or /etc/lilo.conf
[09:09] <intelikey> use man blah for more details.
[09:09] <intelikey> @ wolfmanz  ^
[09:10] <word> ncq err...something that makes hds go fast
[09:10] <cpk2> get reiserfs
[09:11] <word> whats the % speed diff from ext?
[09:11] <cpk2> i dunno go look at the reiserfs site
[09:13] <word> not planning on reinstalling any time soon .. so anyone know about NCQ support in kubuntu?
[09:14] <cpk2> there are some optimization things you can try, go look it up, why do you need your hard drive to be faster than it currently is?
[09:17] <intelikey> ah just found the kill button on kdm   hehhe  thought there ought to be one....     [console login]  option in the kdm menu   :)
[09:17] <cpk2> intelikey: you mean sudo invoke-rc.1 kdm stop?
[09:18] <word> cpk2: it's a feature on newer hard drives that makes it go faster..not sure what it is but the OS has to support it
[09:19] <intelikey> cpk2 no if i was going to do that i'd just issue  killall kdm
[09:20] <intelikey> cpk2 but basicly the same.  only users can kill kdm with the console login  feature
[09:20] <intelikey> handy on this system,  no sudo here.
[09:22] <intelikey> oh!  what do i need to install for twm to have the debian-menu or any menu list of the X-apps  ?
[09:25] <intelikey> is it deskmenu maybe ?
[09:27] <aegeanlinux> Hello Y'all
[09:29] <Healot> hello aegeanlinux
[09:29] <aegeanlinux> Hi Healot, how are you?
[09:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone!
[09:30] <MilhousePunkRock> How can I find out, if I use lvm?
[09:31] <MilhousePunkRock> I am following this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491 and there isnt much of a description
[09:31] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock ps -A x | grep lvm    maybe...
[09:31] <MilhousePunkRock> I googled that it's "Logical Volume Management", but how likely do I use that without knowing about it?
[09:31] <MilhousePunkRock> Oh, hey intelikey!
[09:32] <MilhousePunkRock> It's loaded at boot, but I don't know if I need it
[09:32] <MilhousePunkRock> I don't think I have a partition setup that needs lvm
[09:33] <MilhousePunkRock> That's the output of ps -A ... : 5294 pts/2    R+     0:00 grep lvm
[09:35] <intelikey> hehhe recursive.  you found your self.  :)
[09:36] <intelikey> antirecursion measures.....   ps -A x | grep lvm | grep -v grep
[09:36] <intelikey> :)
[09:36] <intelikey> but no if it's not running i'd say you don't use it.
[09:37] <MilhousePunkRock> That didn't give no feedback at all
[09:37] <intelikey> daz rite
[09:37] <Healot> MilhousePunkRock: in KDE, open up the Disk Management control panel
[09:37] <Healot> or with fdisk -l :)
[09:38] <intelikey> Healot just a thought but wouldn't tune2fs  also tell ?
[09:39] <Healot> well, anyway you like it
[09:39] <MilhousePunkRock> is that an I (India), an l (Lima]  or a | (pipe) ?
[09:39] <MilhousePunkRock> probably not a pipe
[09:39] <intelikey> well might be reiser  i guess,   or you may even be able to lmv M$  idk...
[09:39] <Healot> i just pop up the disk management, bam, i see the lvm partition
[09:39] <intelikey> L
[09:39] <MilhousePunkRock> rgr
[09:40] <intelikey> L as in LIST
[09:40] <intelikey> gota get this boy thinking *nix  ....
[09:41] <Healot> Pipe > |
[09:41] <MilhousePunkRock> I really feel like a noob... Maybe I should have gotten a distribution the _forces_ you to do everthing the hard way ( via shell)
[09:42] <MilhousePunkRock> OK, so lvm would be listed under system if I had it?
[09:42] <Healot> MilhousePunkRock: it's cool to feel like a newbie when you are
[09:42] <MilhousePunkRock> At least I am honest enough to admit it to myself...
[09:42] <Healot> yeah from the fdisk or tune2fs or mdadm output
[09:42] <intelikey> L-ong     L-ist     F-orce    I-nteractive    O-ver_write
[09:43] <intelikey> think  *nix   :)
[09:43] <intelikey> R-ecursive
[09:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Three partitions: (Why is it 3 anyway, I dont have a seperate home partition) Linux + Extended + Linux Swap
[09:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Maybe I have to bite the bullet and buy a book about Linux...
[09:44] <intelikey> the extended holds the swap
[09:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Oh yeah, I just see that the latter two are on the same physical blocks...
[09:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Is that where lvm comes into play?
[09:45] <intelikey> no that's old school partitioning     primary  extended{swap...possably.others}
[09:46] <MilhousePunkRock> Let me put the partition table to a pastebin, so you can see it as well...
[09:46] <intelikey> in DOS is was primary  extended{logical-drive,logical-drive2...}
[09:46] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock it prolly look a lot like mine.
[09:47] <MilhousePunkRock> http://pastebin.ca/95716
[09:48] <intelikey> and journalizing fs     wooowhoo  up town now.
[09:48] <MilhousePunkRock> By the way,  did anyone use that guide to speed up boot I quoted above?
[09:49] <intelikey> and as for the pastebin  yep same critters.
[09:49] <_rince_> mrgn
[09:49] <intelikey> rince
[09:49] <MilhousePunkRock> So what about the lvm now?
[09:50] <intelikey> not likely on that.  no.
[09:50] <MilhousePunkRock> Was it you that told me about the runlevel things yesterday to get rid of wifi-radar yesterday, intelikey?
[09:51] <MilhousePunkRock> I found that guide which has a graphical frontend for editing the rc* things
[09:51] <intelikey> yep
[09:52] <intelikey> but don't ask me to repete what i said yestergo    i've slept sense then
[09:52] <MilhousePunkRock> Finally I can get rid of HP printing and imaging, cups and all that bluetooth crap
[09:53] <MilhousePunkRock> But there are a few other things in the runlevel not mentioned in the guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[09:53] <intelikey> heh "yestergo" any time before now.   coined by my daughter at age 14months.
[09:54] <intelikey> yeah they are always adding crap.
[09:55] <intelikey> she's on her own now...   doesn't see like it's been that long.
[09:56] <MilhousePunkRock> OK, done with step II it seems...
[09:56] <intelikey> seem
[09:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Next step, commenting out tty4 5 and 6
[09:57] <MilhousePunkRock> tty sounds like is has something to do with the shell?
[09:58] <intelikey> in /etc/inittab i suppose ?
[09:58] <MilhousePunkRock> indeed
[09:58] <intelikey> yes console login's
[09:59] <intelikey> you cutting back to only three consoles.... i activate 8  generally
[09:59] <intelikey> 1,2,3,4,21,22,23,24
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock> I wouldn't need more than 3 as a normal end user, right?
[10:00] <intelikey> and kill X   :)
[10:01] <intelikey> would not need more than one as an X user
[10:01] <MilhousePunkRock> It seems "vi" is using an american keyboard map... If I press the key that is supposed to be the # it acts like pg-up
[10:01] <cpk2> MilhousePunkRock: I'm a normal end user and i use 8 consoles =p
[10:01] <MilhousePunkRock> but I use the consoles for sudo kate whatever, sometimes I have 2 or 3 open...
[10:02] <Healot> vi is created by American :)
[10:02] <MilhousePunkRock> But if you say console login, I am always only logged in once, in fact there is only one user set up here, ME!
[10:02] <intelikey> i'm not a normal anything  but i have 4 with getty running and 4 with automatic init controlled opening   i.e. waiting on me to use when it boots.
[10:02] <cpk2> vi oops not ocnsoles, desktops
[10:02] <cpk2> hehe
[10:03] <MilhousePunkRock> I have yet to make use of the Linux multiple desktops...
[10:03] <intelikey> and openvt -fc #
[10:03] <intelikey> in the GUI MilhousePunkRock ?
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Huh? What? Who? Me?
[10:05] <ironfroggy> why do i sometimes get messages from apt-get like "depends on Foo, but it is not going to be installed" i mean, why does it decide not to install it?
 I have yet to make use of the Linux multiple desktops...<intelikey> in the GUI MilhousePunkRock ?
[10:05] <intelikey> ironfroggy can't find it.
[10:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Oh yeah.. I know there is that 1 | 2 _3 | 4 grid on the "taskar"
[10:06] <MilhousePunkRock> But I always do everything on 1 anyway...
[10:06] <intelikey> or conflicts with blah    should say why
[10:06] <word> what's upgrades to new mobos+cpus/hds like in kubuntu?
[10:06] <MilhousePunkRock> Back to the tty's
[10:06] <ironfroggy> intelikey: o
[10:06] <MilhousePunkRock> Is it "safe" to comment out 4 5 and 6?
[10:07] <intelikey> yep
[10:07] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock as i said, it's "safe" to comment out all but '1'
[10:08] <intelikey> and it can be any one. as long as it respawns in 1-5
[10:08] <Healot> since ubuntu/debian only uses 0,1,2,6
[10:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Never used vi before, do I have to do something so I can edit stuff, or is it a changed keymap that makes my # not work
[10:08] <Healot> wait don't comment out runlevel 6
[10:08] <intelikey> 4:12345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4    <-- example
[10:08] <Healot> 0,1,2,6 :)
[10:09] <MilhousePunkRock> If the latter, where is the # on a US keyboard?
[10:09] <intelikey> Healot tty's not runlevels
[10:09] <intelikey> and yes i know you can comment out runlevels also in that file
[10:10] <Healot> i mean the run levels
[10:10] <intelikey> or add them.    i've done both.
[10:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Runlevels I did with the graphical tool, I felt safer with it... It was "sysv-rc-conf"
[10:11] <intelikey> i've setup inittab to have only 2 runlevels 0,1  which was multiuser 0 and reboot 1     and as many as 13 runlevels...
[10:12] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock no you remove the entire runlevel or add new ones in the inittab file... it the upper section
[10:12] <intelikey> l1:1:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 1
[10:12] <intelikey> l2:2:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 2
[10:12] <intelikey> runlevel ^
[10:13] <MilhousePunkRock> I only want to quote out the tty's in the inittab, I am sticking to that guide very closely...
[10:13] <intelikey> 1:12345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
[10:13] <intelikey> ^ tty's
[10:14] <MilhousePunkRock> vi wont let me edit anything... Is it only a viewer?
[10:14] <intelikey> nope   hit [insert]